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Tatsterkemik::   I think this is what you asked for    drwxr-xr-x    5 root root 4.0K 2005-05-16 23:15 scsi12:00
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yathd2dchat: I have not done this myself. I thought it might be a shortcut rather than burning a 5.10 CD, but it might not work.12:00
ThreeDayMonkScrawny1: well, I suggest you do what it says!  sudo apt-get install -f12:00
chicken-mangot to go, bye every one12:00
kemikTatster:  go inside the scsi dir and do "ls -lha" again12:01
d2dchatyath, well its doing whatever its doing12:01
hardw1rehmmm jre is gonna take time to download12:01
yathcool12:01
d2dchatyath, do you know how install xmms?12:01
kemikTatster:  the directory itself seems to have the correct ownership and flags to be modifiable by root12:01
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Scrawny1this is really ticking me off12:01
Tatsterkemik: That listing is here: http://pastebin.com/34114912:02
LinuxJonesd2dchat, =P12:02
yathd2dchat: lemme see12:02
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ThreeDayMonkScrawny1: did you try install -f?  What happened?12:02
Scrawny1same dang error12:02
d2dchatLinuxJones, ;)12:02
SolitaryCriticwho can fix my problem12:03
yathd2dchat: yeah, in sources.list there are 2 lines ending in "universe". You A) uncomment them, B) add "multiverse" to the end12:03
yathd2dchat: then xmms is available12:03
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d2dchatyath, can i do that while its updating?12:03
OwnageLinuxguys how do i get the wine to work12:03
ThreeDayMonkScrawny1: I really suggest that you try using Synaptic instead - it's a bit more user friendly12:03
d2dchatyath, in another terminal?12:03
yathd2dchat: apparently not in 5.10 though... heh12:03
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benplautubotu tell OwnageLinux about wine12:03
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d2dchatyath, o:(12:03
ThreeDayMonkOwnageLinux: maybe you need to drink more of it?12:04
fraggstaI can't get exim4 to deliver to Maildirs on an Ubuntu machine.  How do I make it do this?12:04
gakwho12:04
yathd2dchat: oh wait. it is there, just no multiverse.12:04
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yathd2dchat: you can edit sources.list now, but don't do any apt-getting till the other stuff is dnoe12:04
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kemikTatster:  weird,, try umounting the device. and then remount with "mount -t ext3 -o rw <insert /dev/here> <insert mountpoint>"12:04
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Scrawny1ok how do I use synaptic to d/l this?12:04
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d2dchatyath, So what exactly do i do?12:05
ThreeDayMonkScrawny1: go to the Gnome menu at the top of the screen (by default) -> System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager12:05
kemikScrawny1:  tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?12:05
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yathd2dchat: find 2 lines there ending with "universe" and erase # from their beginnings12:05
ThreeDayMonkkemik: he said he tried it12:05
kemikok missed it =)12:05
d2dchatis there a way to edit the file from terminal?12:06
yathnano sources.list12:06
d2dchatah yes! i love that editor:)12:06
nickrudfraggsta, you can use procmail to sort mail into maildirs from exim12:06
d2dchatits been awhile since ive used linux12:06
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=== ThreeDayMonk beats vi with vim
Scrawny1ok I think I got it guys :)12:07
=== kemik beats vim with gvim
VeloxI'm close to giving up on booting Ubuntu :\12:07
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=== benplaut beats gvim with gedit :P
ThreeDayMonkkemik: I still prefer vim - easier to load files12:07
Scrawny1now do I refresh gnome once it's installed or.....?12:07
d2dchatyath, I pasted you the lines12:07
ThreeDayMonkthe menu?12:07
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kemikThreeDayMonk:  hm? how do you mean ?12:07
fraggstanickrud: I'm just not seeing any way to actually get dpkg to configure anything to actually *use* maildirs12:07
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d2dchatyath, there are 4 lines with 'universe'12:07
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vitriolcan i get the ati drivers with apt-get?12:08
OwnageLinuxhow do u open a chat w/ someone in linux x-chat?12:08
nickrudfraggsta, you don't use dpkg; a sec and I'll post my .procmailrc12:08
vitrioli can't find them with apt-cache12:08
ThreeDayMonkkemik: well, I have the console open in my working directory, and just type vim foo bar baz to edit all the files I want12:08
kemikvitriol:  yes, they're called fglrx12:08
_frank!ati12:08
ubotumethinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI12:08
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vitriolkemik: oh ok thats what i was looking for thanks :)12:08
OwnageLinuxhow do u open a chat w/ someone in linux x-chat?12:08
vitrioland thanks _frank12:08
Tatsterkemik: That worked - so next question is what should I put in /etc/fstab to make this mount available after a reboot?12:08
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kemikThreeDayMonk:  same thing applies to gvim :) (and wnat to open additional files? :e filname1 file2  :) )12:09
benplauthmm12:09
kemikTatster:  remove the defaults and add "rw"12:09
benplautOwnageLinux, /msg nick12:09
gakI can't get either the live dvd or cd to boot - cd itegrity checks out fine, md5 is fine, drive works fine for other things, any ideas?12:09
ThreeDayMonkkemik: except I have to move to that directory - with vim I'm already there!12:09
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, right click their name "Open Dialog Window" but be sure to ask if it's ok to do so before hand12:09
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washo_pelaome voy, gringos qls xD12:09
kemikThreeDayMonk:  no, it should start in the working dir where you opeened it12:09
Scrawny1guys?12:09
OwnageLinuxwats dcc chat?12:09
Scrawny1threedaymonk sorry :)12:10
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nickrudfraggsta, I've used this with both postfix and exim: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/141012:10
kemikor maybe that's a feature in my wicked .vimrc file .. hmmh12:10
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Scrawny1once I get it installed do I refresh gnome?12:10
gakerror on the dvd is "An installation step has failed... The failing step is: Load installer components from CD."12:10
LinuxJonesScrawny1, what's wrong ?12:10
ThreeDayMonkkemik: yeah, that's true, of course, but I would have it open already from somewhere else12:10
OwnageLinuxhow long does the synaptic take to isntall things...?12:10
OwnageLinuxi marked it for instalation but it just turned green12:10
ThreeDayMonkkemik: I prefer to just use screen and vim (with the mini-buf explorer) for everything12:11
ThreeDayMonkOwnageLinux: Apply12:11
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, you click on apply to download and install the software12:11
kemikThreeDayMonk:  we all have different tastes ;)12:11
OwnageLinuxwhere is aplly?12:11
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, up top like 3 or 4 buttons to the right12:11
ThreeDayMonkOwnageLinux: try #learning-to-read :-)12:11
nickrudfraggsta, for postfix, you need to make a change to a postfix conf file to enable procmail, for exim it simply works12:11
gmoorei'm trying to ftp a file to my server and i keep getting permission denied. what do i need to chmod the directory?12:11
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OwnageLinuxok thanks :)12:12
fraggstanickrud: aren't I going to need to make fetchmail use procmail?12:12
ThreeDayMonkOwnageLinux: of course... if your language is different...12:12
OwnageLinuxits not... it worked12:12
OwnageLinuxthe upload on linux is so damn fast12:12
kemikgmoore:  depends on the current state of the directory... "sudo chmod -R 777 <dir>" will work for most settings.12:12
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OwnageLinuxi like how linux has its own programs12:13
nickrudfraggsta, no, I did nothing other than add that procmailrc for exim. fetchmail hands off to exim, not procmail directly, if my memory serves.12:13
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OwnageLinuxsuch as aim. msn. yahoo. icq all built into one... that owns12:13
SolitaryCriticguess I'll install vector linux12:13
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nickrudI've used that or a variation for a few years now12:14
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, yeah it beats having to goto a website and find the file to download :)12:14
chrisis there any way to make the mouse wheel work when I do something other than press it directly down?12:14
Xenguygmoore: chmod 777 is 'wide open' -- I wouldn't leave those permissions like that for long12:14
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LinuxJonesSolitaryCritic, what's wrong ?12:14
benplautis there any way to change the chmod of a folder, and all the folders and files in that folder?12:14
Xenguybenplaut: chmod -R12:14
benplautXenguy: thanks12:14
kemikR is for Recursive12:14
kemik;)12:14
ThreeDayMonkbut don't use x with -R!12:14
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ThreeDayMonkuse X instead12:15
Xenguyor man chmod =)12:15
gmoorewell the directory is owned by root12:15
gmoore/mnt/storage/www/files12:15
kemikx / X? hm12:15
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gmoorei want user 'g' to be able to upload to that directory12:15
OwnageLinuxok i installed wine but i have no clue where it was installed to12:15
gmoorehow would i chmod it? i don't want to do 77712:15
yathWhat about editing fstab so it's loaded for that user12:16
kemikgmoore:  what security do you want ?12:16
yathmounted Imean12:16
kemikgmoore:  "man chmod"12:16
fraggstanickrud: well that didn't work..it picked up a mail and put it....somewhere12:16
greg(was gak) so has anyone ever seen a live cd fail to read once it sucessfully boots?12:16
OwnageLinuxis there a way to search ur system like in windows12:16
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, for files and such ?12:16
kemikOwnageLinux:  "sudo locate -ucl 0" followed by "locate <file>"12:16
nickrudfraggsta, look at ~, and /var/mail/fraggsta12:16
Xenguygmoore: if you are running an FTP server and yer still learning chmod, I would be most careful :-)  One approach might be to create a 'group', then add your user 'g' to that group12:16
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gregand don't forget updatedb ownage12:17
ThreeDayMonkOwnageLinux: I'm afraid that there's no animated dog, though...12:17
gmooreXenguy: what would that accomplish12:17
kemikThreeDayMonk:  thank heaven for that12:17
sublime_hola gente, estoy instalando el vmware y me pide lo siguiente:12:17
sublime_What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running12:17
sublime_kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 12:17
ThreeDayMonkkemik: aye12:17
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kemiki hate those damned "agents"12:17
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ThreeDayMonkI fucking hate that dog :-)12:17
sublime_puse ya varia cosas pero ...12:17
kabhi12:17
gregI don't think beagle is ready for prime time yet12:17
sublime_estoy con ubuntu ovbio ... que hay otro ...!!! XXXD12:17
Xenguygmoore: this approach assumes there is a 'group' of users you want to have permission to upload12:17
darkgamer20is there a way to install ubuntu from floppies over the 'net?12:17
kabI am with breezy, and I can't get loopback good, then my gnome isn't working :(12:18
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kemiksublime_:  english please, or use #ubuntu-es12:18
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thezombiehunterwhats the link for the uniffical guide12:18
kabHow can I up muy lo?12:18
kemikunless that's italian12:18
sublime_ok , i'm sorry12:18
kemikeheh12:18
fraggstanickrud: nope, it's empty12:18
Xenguygmoore: but I'm no expert with ftpd's -- I tend to avoid FTP altogether since I've never needed to mess with FTP services12:18
thezombiehunter???12:18
ThreeDayMonkkemik: now you've insulted the Spanish and Italian speakers!12:18
kemikthezombiehunter:  "google -> ubuntu guide" or www.ubuntuguide.[org,com,whatever] 12:18
kemikThreeDayMonk:  yeah.. im smooth ;)12:18
OwnageLinuxanybody no where wine installs?12:19
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Tatsterkemik: Thanks for your help12:19
yathhttp://ubuntuguide.org/12:19
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darkgamer20is there a way to install ubuntu from floppies over the 'net?12:19
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, in console type whereis wine12:19
kemikTatster:  np12:19
nophixdon't use that ubuntuguide too much12:19
nophixit's not so up to date12:19
nickrudfraggsta, hm.12:20
gregonce live dvd is booted base linux - how to get from menu to tty? (to see dmseg error?)12:20
VeloxOdd. My problem is that GRUB appears to not be loading at all, however I opened up VMware virtual workstation, tweaked it to be most like my system, loaded it up and GRUB came up fine.12:20
Myrttigoar.12:20
nophixgreg: ctrl+alt+f1 maybe?12:20
VeloxSo I can run my Ubuntu install just fine from VMware, but not actually booting it.12:20
VeloxEvil.12:21
darkgamer20is there a way to install ubuntu from floppies over the 'net?12:21
nickrudfraggsta, then it's probably in exim's queue. You can install eximon4 (eximon executable) to see what's happening12:21
fraggstanickrud: there's no procmail log file either12:21
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yathdarkgamer20: I think that is highly unlikely12:21
OwnageLinuxhmmm when i type "whereis wine" it gives me the locations... i look there and no wine file is there12:21
nickrudfraggsta, no from in the Maildir?12:21
darkgamer20yath: how  come?12:21
nophixdarkgamer20: you should try the regular debian12:21
gregactually theres a menu choice once you dismiss the big read read error window12:21
darkgamer20oh ok12:21
fraggstanickrud: nope, I can see where the log file *should* be12:21
gregthanks nophix, though12:21
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nophixgreg: :)12:22
alex__is there a sleep possibility in ubuntu ?12:22
fraggstaI run fetchmail and...nothing goes into exim's queue12:22
gregso lots of "drive not ready for command" errors in dmesg and things like "Buffer I/O error"12:23
gmooreanyone experienced with proftpd? i really need some help configuring it, i've been trying for 2 days :(12:24
Seveasalex__, yes, choose hibernate from the logout menu12:24
OwnageLinuxok i found the wine folder... i have no clue what file to open though12:24
fraggstathis leaves me wondering where my mail actually went12:24
alex__thanks !12:24
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=== OwnageLinux :ok i found the wine folder... i have no clue what file to open though
nophixgmoore: i'm not experienced, but you should describe your problem directly instead, or on the forums maybe12:24
chrisIs there a way to make my mouse wheel scroll down three lines or so like it normally does?12:25
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nophixOwnageLinux: typed wine in terminal?12:25
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gmoorewell, i can't figure out how to give users permissions at all. eg i made a user 'upload' and i want him to be able to upload and resume uploads in a certain directory, but i can't figure out how to set it up.12:25
OwnageLinuxnophix: yes...12:25
OwnageLinuxnophix: i typed whereis wine12:26
ptlohmm...i'm trying to install vmware and it requires linux source headers set up for current kernel version. i have stock (2.6.10) ubuntu kernel, is there a package providing kernel source(s) / patches from which exactly this image was built?12:26
=== OwnageLinux nophix: u mean just type "wine"?
ptloi don't want to recompile the kernel just so i'd have headers/kernel image in sync12:26
nophixOwnageLinux: yes, "wine iexplore.exe" for example12:26
OwnageLinuxi dont have iexplore on it though12:26
nophixOwnageLinux: well. whatever you need to run12:27
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, >> http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wine-faq/index12:27
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fraggstanickrud: seems liek procmail isn't getting used at all12:27
nophixgmoore: for starters, you should have the right permissions on directory12:27
nophixgmoore: with chmod12:27
OwnageLinuxlinux: how do i start wine?12:28
gmoorenophix: i understand how to use chmod in general but i don't know what permissions i need to set12:28
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nickrudfraggsta, eximon is useful; I also looked around on the net in case my several year old solution has been superseded12:28
gmooreif i want to give 'upload' write permissions, how do i do that using chmod?12:28
hardw1reanyone got wine running on the x86_64 system?12:28
OwnageLinuxi type "wine" it installed stuff12:28
fissyin ubuntu breezy, i see that the run application item has been removed from the panel, is that a gnome 2.12 change or an ubuntu change?12:28
fraggstanickrud: yes, eximon is showing me that mail never goes into exim's queue12:28
nophixOwnageLinux: wine doesn't have a gui, what do you want to do with it?12:29
Xenguygmoore: which ftpd are you using BTW?  (Whatever it is, I imagine that the documentation would probably cover that kind of question(?)12:29
LinuxJonesfissy, hit alt + F2 and see if it comes up12:29
OwnageLinuxnophix: play a windows game... nophix12:29
gmooreXenguy: proftpd and no it does not it assumes you know how to set up permissions and user accounts12:29
hardw1reget cedega12:29
hardw1reyou want to goto transgaming.com12:29
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hardw1reOwnageLinux ^^12:29
nophixOwnageLinux: just type wine setup.exe or something or get cedega instead, better for gaming12:29
LinuxJonesfissy, maybe it got moved  somewhere else12:29
fissyi don't want it somewhere else!12:30
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jtan325is anyone's aim down?12:30
fissyican bring it up by alt-f2, but i nearly always want to do it with my mouse12:30
OwnageLinuxnophix: i typed "wine" it did something like config it..12:30
jtan325i.e. you can't log in to your aim account?12:30
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nickrudfraggsta, send some mail to your local account directly; this'll keep fetchmail out of the loop. Something should show something in the queue if the mail is stopping at procmail12:31
nophixOwnageLinux: you're not listening12:31
=== OwnageLinux nophix:??
thekmani always see linux screenshots with a toolbar type app on the desktop that shows things like disk usage, volume, network settings etc etc... does anyone know what any type of program like this is called12:31
hardw1reOwnageLinux: goto transgaming.com and get cedega, thats best for windows games12:31
KiraWhen I use ndiswrapper to install a WiFi driver, does ndiswrapper automatically copy the inf file to a new location?12:31
nophixthekman: gkrellm12:31
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jabragkrellem12:31
OwnageLinuxok hard but i think cedega isnt free12:31
hardw1reno it isnt12:31
hardw1rebut the cvs is12:31
nickruds/something//12:32
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OwnageLinuxhard.: wats cvs?12:32
hardw1rebut 40 for a years sub aint bad tbh12:32
OwnageLinuxhard: cvs the pharmacy? lol12:32
ilovetoastmakerhello12:32
benplautcvs is the source code12:32
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OwnageLinuxso what can i do w/ the cvs?12:32
hardw1recompile cedega your self12:32
OwnageLinuxbut i dont know how to do that12:32
benplautbut it's not full featured...12:33
ilovetoastmakercan someone help me connect to the internet in the hoary hedgehog release?12:33
hardw1re:o12:33
hardw1reare you using a router, ppp or cable?12:33
OwnageLinuxilovetoastmaker: your on the internet??12:33
ilovetoastmakerim using...windows12:33
OwnageLinuxo12:33
ilovetoastmakerusb 2wire pc port12:33
hardw1reusb adsl modem?12:33
ilovetoastmakeryes12:33
alxarchhi i need some help with my sound configuration(already followed HOWTO in ubuntu starter guide)12:34
fraggstanickrud: looks like debconf has sprinkled "DEBCONF" all over exim.conf, stopping it from working :S12:34
d2dchatim getting ubuntu configuration12:34
d2dchatits asking me for postfix configuration12:34
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hardw1rei cant really help you there, i have an adsl router/modem that my machine plugs into and gets all the info off of dhcp12:34
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d2dchatwhat type of 'General Type configuration' should i have?12:34
nickrudfraggsta, try reconfiguring, purely as a local mail delivery then, for testing12:34
d2dchat'No configuration'12:34
d2dchat'internet site'12:34
ilovetoastmakerpppoeconf doesnt work either12:34
d2dchat'internet site with smarthost'12:34
Flonned2dchat, if you don't know, go with no configuration and local everything.12:35
d2dchatok12:35
d2dchatty12:35
fraggstanickrud: dpkg-reconfigure'ing it doesn't do anything12:35
ilovetoastmakeran anyone help me here, or should i go somewhere else?12:35
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ilovetoastmaker*can12:35
nickrudfraggsta, then, that's debconf, and over my head. Although, last I used exim4, it worked :)12:36
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alxarchI need some help with my sound configuration(already followed HOWTO in ubuntu starter guide). PLZ12:36
fraggstanickrud: then I don't see how I can reconfigure it12:36
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nickrudfraggsta, a ha! sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config12:37
OwnageLinuxhowcome music player wont play my mp3's?12:37
hardw1reok, anyone here know how to disable sound devices in the asound or reconfigure asound/alsa to use a specific device? already mentioned it earlier but my logitech quickcam has a mic in it, which when plugged in alsa recognises it as a sound device and sets it as default, instead of my actual sound card... any help will be greatfull :)12:37
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, you need to install mp3 playback codecs12:37
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ilovetoastmakercan someone help me connect to the internet in the hoary hedgehog release? I'm using a usb pc port by 2wire. pppoeconf doen't do anything12:38
nophixOwnageLinux: wiki.ubuntu.com is your best friend12:38
crimsunhardw1re: in a Terminal, echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base12:38
hardw1reoh and wat does the K8 mean in the AMD 64 kernel images?12:38
OwnageLinuxjones where do i get the codecs?12:38
hardw1rethnx crimsun12:39
hardw1rei'll give that a try12:39
Flonnehardw1re, it's optimized for Athlon64 and related chips.12:39
hardw1re(Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64] 12:39
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hardw1rethe K8 is the code name for the Athlon 64's?12:39
hardw1rejust like k6-2, and k7 etc.12:40
FlonneLike those, but not exactly a code name.12:40
LinuxJones!restrictedformats12:40
ubotuI guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'12:40
Juhazhardw1re, yes12:40
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, see that webpage ^^12:40
fraggstanickrud: success!12:40
hardw1reah ok, i thought it was relating to the K8T800 chipset12:40
OwnageLinuxjones:the wiki thing?12:40
hardw1reand im using an nForce 3 board12:41
OwnageLinuxhow do u type in red is it /action or /me or sumthin12:41
=== OwnageLinux red?
nickrudfraggsta, I'm using postfix currently, I'm very lucky I remembered that.12:41
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, yes ubotu is a bot that helps with general information and links12:41
fraggstanickrud: well a bunch of test emails just turned up12:41
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fraggstanickrud: ok, thanks for the help...I need a cigarette (dont smoke, kids!)12:41
OwnageLinuxLinux, ?12:42
nickrudfraggsta, I'll join you :)12:42
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pfpOwnageLinux: usually your irc clients colours the lines that have your nick in them12:42
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pfpclient*12:42
hardw1recrimsun: not familiar with many of the CLI's yet, but tee, does that right the output of the echo into the alsa-base?12:42
OwnageLinuxohhhh12:42
bender_sigh12:42
bender_im bord12:42
OwnageLinuxpfp: kewl12:42
crimsunhardw1re: yes12:42
hardw1recool :)12:42
alxarch0wnage there is an entry in ubuntu starter guide on dloading codecs http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs12:43
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, it's a script that you can call and it will output links to common questions like yours that have been programmed into it by users.12:43
hardw1reanyone tried the 2.6.12 amd64 kernels yet?12:43
OwnageLinuxhard where do i get cedeca or wateva u said12:43
codecaineanyone in here know how to determine the actual port number returned from a passive reply from an ftp server?12:43
alxarchI need some help with my sound configuration(already followed HOWTO in ubuntu starter guide). PLZ12:43
hardw1rewww.transgaming.com12:43
bender_mathew12:43
codecainelast two numbers are used to determine port...12:43
bender_where you located?12:43
codecaine227 Entering Passive Mode (69,24,8,40,19,190)12:44
pfpOwnageLinux: indeed, and very handy too on a busy channel like this12:44
hardw1relol12:44
hardw1reyup12:44
gregso the computer will boot from a suse dvd but not a knoppix cd or a ubuntu cd - anyone seen this?12:44
OwnageLinuxpfp: what was indeed a response to?12:44
LED_scorchedi'm not sure how i did it, but in GIMP i lost my layer panel, and cant get it back.  any ideas?12:44
hardw1reok crimsun gonna give that a shot and see if my soundcard still works, gotta reboot tho cause linux doesnt like when i plug my webcam in while its running :P12:45
pfpOwnageLinux: 01:43 < OwnageLinux> pfp: kewl -- which i guess was your response to me telling you about the colour thing :)12:45
OwnageLinuxpfp: yup :)12:45
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OwnageLinuxanyone know how to open things with wine where do i put the files so it opens them12:46
blkdoes somebody know about the state of keyboard-layouts in breezy? i can't seem to get de_CH working - it is set in gconf aswell as in xorg.conf, when switching from the keyboard-pref.-gui i get an "error activating XKB conf."12:46
benplautOwnageLinux, it should creat virtual drives that give ou al your regular files12:46
Kiragaaah12:46
OwnageLinuxbenplaut, i think it did...12:46
KiraI get an error message with pon12:47
OwnageLinuxbenplaut, but if i want to play a game on it how will i open it12:47
alxarchI need some help with my sound configuration(already followed HOWTO in ubuntu starter guide). PLZ someone PLZ12:47
pfpOwnageLinux: "wine /path/to/setup.exe"  <- that usually installs the prog. in your "fake C drive" or whatever12:47
OwnageLinuxlol12:47
OwnageLinuxso i just type "wine /path/to/setup.exe and it will install it?12:47
Kira/usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider: unrecognized option 'wlan0'12:48
pfpshould, with luck :)12:48
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ilovetoastmakercan someone help me connect to the internet in the hoary hedgehog release? I'm using a usb pc port by 2wire. pppoeconf doen't do anything12:48
pfpthough gamers seem to prefer cedega over wine12:48
OwnageLinuxpfp: i typed wine /path/to/setup.exe and it just said it couldnt find it12:49
LinuxJonesilovetoastmaker, do you know if your network card has been setup correctly ?12:49
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pfpOwnageLinux: krrhm, you should replace /path/to/..etc with whereever your windows program's installer files are12:49
TheGnomewhere can i get cool desktop wallpaper?12:50
OwnageLinuxpfp: oh lol12:50
LinuxJonesTheGnome, art.gnome.org12:50
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benplautTheGnome, gnome-look.org12:51
cafuegoKira: I'd expect pppoe to not run particularly well via wireless12:52
OwnageLinuxhow do i compile a cvs? is it hard12:52
ilovetoastmakerlinuxjones:it works on windoze12:52
cafuegoOwnageLinux: /msg ubotu compiling12:52
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pfpseems ubotu won't listen to unregistered users12:53
OwnageLinuxubotu doesnt answer12:53
ubotuOwnageLinux: No idea12:53
Kiracafuego you don't say...12:53
pfp!tell OwnageLinux about compiling12:53
nophix!tell OwnageLinux about compiling12:54
cafuegoKira: rerun pppoeconf12:54
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OwnageLinuxllol12:54
nophixbah12:54
LinuxJonesilovetoastmaker, ok type sudo network-admin and see if your card is listed, if so click the card and hit properties to configure.12:54
OwnageLinuxhow do u make him type stuff to me?12:54
pfpwow, that's not an encouraging advice :)12:54
cafuegoOwnageLinux: /msg nickserv register12:54
OwnageLinux??12:54
nophixOwnageLinux: don't use the bot, use wiki.ubuntu.com12:54
cafuegoOwnageLinux: ubotu only talks to registered nicks12:54
Kiracafuego: and then?12:55
OwnageLinux"ubotu Compiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really"12:55
cafuegoKira: tell it about the network interface you want it to use (ethX)12:56
LinuxJoneshaha12:56
hardw1rehey crimsun thanks mate, that worked a treat :D now i can work on getting my webcam running.... (lol)12:56
OwnageLinux!tell pfp about penis12:56
OwnageLinuxlol12:56
OwnageLinuxubotu i dunno what is 'penis'12:56
ubotuOwnageLinux: I think you lost me on that one12:56
pfpat least ubotu has some manners ;)12:57
OwnageLinuxbut he doesnt know what a penis is12:57
cafuegopfp: Not encouraging, but essentially correct.12:57
nophixubotu is hetero12:57
ubotunophix: I give up, what is it?12:57
nophixi guess not?12:57
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pfpcafuego: probably true, yes :/12:57
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freedomjazzdancewhy would my cd get stuck in the drive? its an audio cd12:58
OwnageLinuxafter i tried to install sumthin w/ wine it just stopped the text12:58
pfp... but they have to learn somehow -)12:58
cafuegopfp: source deb is a good start12:58
freedomjazzdanceand cdplayer auto loaded but now wont eject12:58
nophix:D12:58
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cafuegopfp: Then again, windows users don't need to know how to compile CVS office...12:58
nophixfreedomjazzdance: is there a short cut on the desktop?12:58
freedomjazzdanceyeah and when i right click and do a eject... no go error message12:59
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freedomjazzdanceand i tried umounting it manually12:59
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nophixyes and then?12:59
freedomjazzdanceno go12:59
nophixumount -f12:59
freedomjazzdancesays its not mounted according to mtab01:00
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OwnageLinuxne1 have a pre-compiled cedeca?01:00
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alxarchI need some help with my sound configuration01:00
nophixfreedomjazzdance: you should not have any programs using the cd or being in the same directory01:00
Kiracafuego: but I don't want to use ethx01:00
OwnageLinuxr u guys all on x-chat?01:01
nophixi am, at least01:01
alxarchi am too01:01
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freedomjazzdancenophix, im not...01:01
FlonneI'm using my own client.01:01
Grati rather use irssi (or mirc if possible :>)01:01
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VeloxI'm on mIRC right now as I'm working on my Ubuntu install through VMware01:01
freedomjazzdancenophix, still is saying its not mounted01:01
alxarchi want some help01:01
OwnageLinuxne1 have a compiled cedeca?01:01
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nophixfreedomjazzdance: you tried umount -f?01:01
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FlonneWith what, alxarch?01:02
eric_I installed the rt2500 wireless module and I'm trying to get it to autoload at boot time, does anyone know how to do this?01:02
alxarchsound01:02
freedomjazzdancenophix, Yes i did01:02
robotgeekeric_: finally , someone with a ralink card01:02
Dr_Melectausis there a GUI for john the ripper?01:02
nophixfreedomjazzdance: what does it say?01:02
Flonnealxarch, what type of card do you have?01:02
Dr_Melectausanyone know if there is a GUI for John The Ripper01:02
eric_robotgeek, indeed, have a question?01:02
cafuegoKira: What port is the dsl modem plugged in to?01:02
Dr_Melectaussorry repeated01:02
freedomjazzdancenophix, says its not mounted01:02
robotgeekeric_: i had to struggle a lot to get it working, now it works great!01:03
gmoorei can't get my proftpd server to follow what i've set up in proftpd.conf, it's only listening to the filesystem permissions. eg i made a group called ftp-upload and a user called upload, with home dir /ftp/upload. documentroot ~ is on so they're locked in there. no matter how i set up <LIMIT>, it only listens to what the directory is chmodded as.01:03
OwnageLinuxhard whats the site again transgaming.com ?01:03
nophixfreedomjazzdance: well, is it mounted?01:03
pfpcafuego: yes, normal people shouldn't have to know about compilers, umounts or anything... maybe some day they won't01:03
Kiracafuego: It's plugged to my wireless access point right now.01:03
eric_robotgeek, cool, mine is working like a charm as well :)01:03
freedomjazzdancenophix,  nothing appears in the usuall mount dir01:03
alxarchi have a soundblaster 24 on my desktop and an intel onboard on my laptop01:03
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alxarchnone of them works01:04
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robotgeekeric_: i just have a script to up it, turned off network connections on bootup01:04
BagsHello room.01:04
nophixfreedomjazzdance: appears? what does "df" say?01:04
eric_robotgeek, okay, i'm still rather new to ubuntu/debian, how does one edit the services started on boot?01:05
robotgeekeric_: the newer ones from cvs have gotten better and better ..just feels great!01:05
BagsIn KDE, how does one go about changing CDROM devices?01:05
BagsI've removed the original mechanism and replaced it with another and now I have no CDROM functionality...01:05
freedomjazzdanceno cds01:05
cafuegoKira: So why would you need to run pppoe *at all* then?01:05
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freedomjazzdancenophix, just the usual01:05
robotgeekeric_: okay...many ways to do this, you want to connect your wireless on startup right?01:06
eric_robotgeek, yea, exactly01:06
=== OwnageLinux says does anyone have a precompiled cedega?
robotgeekeric_: services are started/stopped from /etc/init.d, but this is not your problem!01:06
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freedomjazzdancehow do you do that grep search?01:06
nophixfreedomjazzdance: i'm out of questions right now :)01:06
cafuegoOwnageLinux: That's payware.01:06
SeveasBags, if no one knows -> try #kubuntu01:07
OwnageLinuxcafuego: Cvs in free... i don't know how to compile it01:07
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, you should use Linux for a while before you try to get it to run Windows applications :)01:07
freedomjazzdancenophix, how would i search to see if there is an instance of cdplayer running?01:07
OwnageLinuxLinuxJones, why? lol01:07
nophixOwnageLinux: use your warez locations?01:07
BagsSeveas: Thanks.01:07
robotgeekeric_: have u seen the howto on the wiki?01:07
jtan325OwnageLinux, which windows program are you trying to run?01:07
ilovetoastmaker# Appears as ANNA01:07
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freedomjazzdancenophix, ps | grep or something01:07
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OwnageLinuxjtan325: infantry.01:07
nophixfreedomjazzdance: there is a command (not ps), i just can't remember it now :/01:07
WhyvasMCTanyone know how to hookup a dwl-g122 usb adapter in 6.04 ???01:07
jtan325oh it's a game?01:07
OwnageLinuxyeah01:08
OwnageLinuxit owns01:08
pfpgmoore: are you trying to restrict your users with <Limit>, or give them more rights than the filesystem allows?01:08
LinuxJonesOwnageLinux, because you will just frustrate yourself, Linux has lots of programs that do the same things as windows programs but they have different names.01:08
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jtan325LinuxJones, but one of the few weaknesses is support for games01:08
OwnageLinuxJones: i'm trying to play a game that only runs on windows01:08
freedomjazzdancenophix, dang... okay!01:08
WhyvasMCTthen install windows01:08
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robotgeekeric_: this link > https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/01:09
TheGnomeOwnageLinux, then use windows01:09
LinuxJonesjtan325, true but dual booting is a better answer than emulation :)01:09
OwnageLinuxTheGnome: Windows sucks though.01:09
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thechitowncubsHow can i check the status of an ntfs drive?01:09
jedixcan someone help me get the nvidia kernel module working?01:09
TheGnomethere are cool games for linux..........like     Enemy-Territory ....America's Army.......Cube.....Supertux....uhh Neverball01:10
LinuxJonesjedix, did you follow the wiki page ?01:10
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jtan325LinuxJones, I agree01:10
GratTuxracing :P01:10
daggie Linux 99% of the time. the ONLY thing I use 'doze for is gaming.01:10
LinuxJonesjtan325, :)01:10
nophixwhat is the command to use too see what processes are using what devices?01:10
jedixLinuxJones: I followed _a_ wiki01:10
funkyHatOwnageLinux, do you have cedega?01:10
jedixLinuxJones: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu01:10
eric_robotgeek, thanks :)01:10
jedixLinuxJones: what wiki are you talking about?01:10
jedix!nvidia01:10
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2901:10
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TheGnomeOwnageLinux, what game are you trying to play?01:10
BagsSeveas: I asked, but noone is talking in there...01:10
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TheGnomeBags, whats the question?01:11
factotumanyone know how I would go about doing a color calibration of my monitor??01:11
OwnageLinuxTheGnome: Infantry - kickme.to/infinity-zone  or stationpass.com01:11
robotgeekeric_: so, wep etc etc working fine?01:11
pfpnophix: "lsof" (lists open files, but devices are files too, mostly)01:11
OwnageLinuxfunkyhat:no01:11
eric_robotgeek, don't have wep setup at the moment, so I don't know, but its working perfectly unenc.01:11
OwnageLinuxfunkyhat: i dont wanna pay for it :\01:11
funkyHatOwnageLinux, get the CVS version of cedega, it's free and legal01:11
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nophixpfp: yes i know, thanks :)01:11
Kiracafuego: because the Wi-Fi access point does not take care of logging in.01:11
TheGnomeOwnageLinux, you dont have to pay.........you just need to know where to look01:12
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nophixfreedomjazzdance: try lsof01:12
funkyHati can't help you install it though, i have the paid-for version01:12
BagsTheGnome: I've had to remove the original CDROM drive from a PPC UBUNTU system, and have installed another drive in there, but the system won't mount any CDs now that it's in there...01:12
OwnageLinuxfunky: i have no clue how to install a cvs though01:12
LinuxJonesjedix, there you go01:12
BagsTheGnome: Very very green noob here...01:12
TheGnomeBags, umm..........reinstall01:12
funkyHatOwnageLinux, someone will be able to help you. you could try the #cedega channel01:12
BagsYou're joking, right?01:13
OwnageLinuxfunkyHat: can u compile it for me?01:13
BagsTheGnome: You're joking, right?01:13
TheGnomeOwnageLinux, if you have limewire or gtk-gnutella you can get the .deb version01:13
funkyHatOwnageLinux, i can help you compile it, compiling under linux is incredibly easy01:13
factotumBags, you might need to alter your kernel to include something, or maybe a module, but thats a whole other ball of wax01:13
Kiracafuego: in other words, the Wi-Fi access point does not provide NAT/DHCP functions right now. It's the dsl modem that's serving DHCP.01:13
OwnageLinuxok funkyhat: tell meh :)01:13
TheGnomeBags, yes......but it would work......does it see the drive at all?01:13
zerboxxWhat is a nice torrent program.  I like azureus other than it's memory leak (which I am watching grow as we speak)?01:13
robotgeekeric_: holler if you need help with wep!01:14
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funkyHatok, first, get the source, and use synaptic to install the package called build-essential01:14
nophixzerboxx: bittornado, torrentflux.com01:14
GratOwnageLinux: heres a quick hint: wget http://...../cedega*.deb && : sudo dpkg -i cedega*.deb01:14
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funkyHatOwnageLinux, ^01:14
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BagsTheGnome: How can I tell if it sees it or not? It doesn't mount any CDROM disks...01:14
TheGnomeBags, are you using gnome01:14
robotgeektoo bad ctorrent doesn't work well with most trackers :(01:15
OwnageLinuxGrat: ??01:15
benplautanyone here gotten Crossover Office working in breezy?01:15
BagsTheGnome: No, but I can...01:15
jedixLinuxJones: I don't have the NVdriver01:15
jedixmodule01:15
freedomjazzdancenophix, thank you sir, i was able to figure it out with that command01:15
GratOwnageLinux thats a way to install cedega? ;>01:15
factotumugh, fluxbox or enlightenment, i cant decide...gr01:15
OwnageLinuxbut its not a site01:15
robotgeekfactotum: openbox with gnome :)01:15
TheGnomeBags, type        lsmod | grep cdrom01:15
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OwnageLinuxGrat:http://...../cedega*.deb there is no site01:15
zerboxxnophix: Have you used torrentflux.com?01:15
freedomjazzdancenophix,  nautulus was usingit, i did >>lsof /dev/hdd01:15
LinuxJonesjedix, go here and follow the directions >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia01:15
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GratOwnageLinux: maybe google will help you find it? :>01:16
nophixfreedomjazzdance: oh good, thank pfp for that :)01:16
factotumfluxbox it is01:16
eric_robotgeek, okay, thanks01:16
freedomjazzdancenophix, then i had to kill -901:16
jedixLinuxJones: I have01:16
jtan325factotum, good choice01:16
gmoorei can't get my proftpd server to follow what i've set up in proftpd.conf, it's only listening to the filesystem permissions. eg i made a group called ftp-upload and a user called upload, with home dir /ftp/upload. documentroot ~ is on so they're locked in there. no matter how i set up <LIMIT>, it only listens to what the directory is chmodded as. anyone familiar with this?01:16
nophixzerboxx: nah, never tried it01:16
jtan325i've never used enlightenment my self01:16
TheGnomefactotum, they both suck01:16
jtan325but fluxbox was fine01:16
LinuxJonesjedix, ok type sudo modprobe nvidia01:16
jtan325TheGnome, what do you use01:16
factotumits just habit from running slackware01:17
zerboxxnophix: Seems interesting, looks indepth which I like, but I'm not sure how it actually works01:17
nophixfreedomjazzdance: good :)01:17
freedomjazzdancepfp, thanks pfp!01:17
TheGnomejtan325, what do you think?01:17
jtan325fvwm? that's what i use now01:17
jedixLinuxJones: it says the module isn't there01:17
jtan325by far the best so far01:17
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robotgeekzerboxx: thanks for torrentflux, looks good01:17
jtan325or openbox, i tried that too, it was alright01:17
LinuxJonesjedix, you didn't install it01:17
factotumTheGnome: Everything sucks01:17
TheGnomejudging by my name i would say that i am a gnome user ..... lol01:17
nophixzerboxx: it's php, you need a webserver, apache+php+mysql and bittornado01:17
pfpfreedomjazzdance, nophix, you're welcome :D01:17
TheGnomefactotum, have you tried xfce01:17
factotumYes I have01:18
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zerboxxrobotgeek: You're looking for a good torrent proggy too?01:18
jedixLinuxJones: well, apt-get install nvidia-glx says otherwise01:18
nophixpfp: :)01:18
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TheGnomeBags, did you try01:18
TheGnomeBags, ?01:18
LinuxJonesjedix, did you do an upgrade today for the new kernel ?01:18
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BagsTheGnome: I get CDROM 51004 2 sr_mod,ide_cd01:18
robotgeekzerboxx: i am using the official client, works well on my slow ppc box01:18
jedixLinuxJones: no01:18
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jedixLinuxJones: 2.6.12.301:18
jtan325TheGnome, don't tell me you use metacity01:18
LinuxJonesjedix, apt-get udpate && apt-get upgrade01:19
LinuxJoneserr update01:19
TheGnomejtan325, i sure do..............whats wrong with it?01:19
zerboxxrobotgeek: I was using it, then I switched to Azureus but it has a horrible memory leak (I've gone from using 208 before running it to 274 when it started, to 346 now)01:19
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robotgeekzerboxx: azureus starts, and then crashes...on ppc, java sucks!01:19
jedixLinuxJones: I built my own kernel..01:19
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zerboxxrobotgeek: hehe tuchez01:20
LinuxJonesjedix, oh god why ?01:20
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OwnageLinuxhow do i identify myself to the robot... i alrdy registered01:20
nophix-a01:20
jedixLinuxJones: because I don't run distro kernels01:20
LinuxJonesjedix, now you have to compile your nvidia kernel from scratch01:20
benplautOwnageLinux, /msg NickServ HELP01:20
herrpoonhi anyone01:20
TheGnomenophix, oooooooo thanks01:20
BagsTheGnome: Is that good?01:20
factotumbuilt your own kernel, jeez thought i was the only one for a minute there01:20
jtan325TheGnome, how can you even diss fluxbox or any other window manager then?01:20
herrpooncan offer some helpl?01:20
jedixLinuxJones: you mean my nvidia module?01:20
LinuxJonesjedix, that's such a 2001 mentality :)01:20
nophixTheGnome: np! :)01:20
LinuxJonesjedix, yes01:21
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TheGnomeBags, in the term type eject......see if it opens the drive01:21
LinuxJonesjedix, sticking to the ubuntu kernel is strongly recommended01:21
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LinuxJonesjedix, for this and many more reasons01:21
jedixLinuxJones: I'm fine with that.. how do I get the source/bin crap?01:21
TheGnomeim on the 686-smp kernel01:21
LinuxJonesjedix, man it takes too long to go through all of that01:21
jedixLinuxJones: is there no wiki on it?01:22
BagsTheGnome: eject: unable to open 'dev/hdb'01:22
pfpzerboxx: i _think_ clearing ~/.Azureus helps with the ram usage a little... altough ~400M mem usage is not uncommon for azureus :(01:22
LinuxJonesjedix, you need with a stock ubuntu kernel you have 2 commands to issue with a custom kernel you need like 10 time consuming steps :(01:22
LinuxJonesjedix, no01:22
OwnageLinuxis there a way to make a dual boot with windows and linux? (not windows xp)01:22
jedixLinuxJones: or even a place I can just get the tgz?  I'm really thinking I should just grab the driver from nvidia.com01:23
zerboxxpfp: I'm just going to use something else :)01:23
TheGnomeBags, yeah its not installed.......did you just put it in and hope it would work01:23
zerboxxpfp: thanks though!01:23
LinuxJonesjedix, just remove the nvidia-glx package and boot into a stock kernel01:23
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BagsTheGnome: Um, well... ah... yeah...01:23
LinuxJonesjedix, there was a new kernel release today01:23
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TheGnomeBags, well in thoery it should......but  hmmmm01:23
TheGnomeBags, are you using kde01:24
herrpoonhi, ive just installed ubuntu on an old compter of mine and would like to view it in a window on my other compter, is this possible?01:24
BagsTheGnome: Yes.01:24
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nophixherrpoon: yes it's possible, with vnc software01:24
TheGnomeBags, go into control center and into perephrials01:24
BagsTheGnome: I can switch back to GNOME if it helps...01:24
dubniumhello, I am having trouble install apps, the error reads: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH.. i installed the latest gcc package and still have an issue01:24
herrpoonah ok01:24
TheGnomeBags, see if you can set up your drive trough there01:24
BagsTheGnome: Ok.01:25
nophixherrpoon: i use tightvnc :)01:25
BagsTheGnome: I'll try it there.01:25
funkyHatanyone know a good GUI-based sound recording app similar to audacity, but with alsa support?01:25
herrpoonright01:25
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pfpherrpoon: system - preferences - remote desktop -> allow other to....01:25
nophixlol01:25
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black13has anyone ever had the error "UDF-fs: no partition found (1) Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknonw-block(1,0)"01:26
LinuxJonesblack13, did you compile your own kernel ?01:26
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concept10_funkyHat, ardour01:27
black13LinuxJones yes01:27
zerboxxDoes anyone here use mrtg?01:27
LinuxJonesblack13, man do you HAVE to compile your own kernel ?01:27
jedixLinuxJones: I couldn't help but notic this new kernel is much older than the one I am running01:27
=== OwnageLinux Anybody know if there is a way to dualboot a ubuntu with windows me or windows 2000
helloyoi'm trying to install breezy badger off the cd, but i think there is a driver problem which locks it up, says that it can't use 8139cp and that i should use 8139too instead, but how?01:27
black13LinuxJones not if there is a better way01:27
binacan anyone sugest a good vector graphics animator for linux (pref open source)?01:27
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concept10!dualboot01:28
ubotuI heard dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:28
maxhi01:28
LinuxJonesjedix, newer mean little if everything works with a stock kernel01:28
black13LinuxJones i can be hard-headed up to apoint but finally i will listen to reason01:28
funkyHatOwnageLinux, yes01:28
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LinuxJonesblack13, you are on a path that is frought with danger :)01:28
maxsomehow my update button disappeard from my task bar, how can i restore it?01:28
funkyHatOwnageLinux, see what ubotu said ^01:28
jedixthis is retarded.01:28
jedixcan it not just get the package and build the module for me01:28
kemikmax:  if there's no updates it disappears01:28
jedixsweet christ.01:28
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helloyocould somebody give me a hand installing breezy off the latest cd?01:29
LinuxJonesjedix, are you missing any functionality with a stock kernel ?01:29
maxkemik: thanks01:29
TheGnomeok perfect theme........clearlooks with human window boarder and nouveXT icons01:29
jedixLinuxJones: none01:29
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kemikmax:  i guess you updated recently?  =)01:29
Motty1 Hi, I have a problem, when I get to the Installer Splash Screen, but when I press enter, I just get a black screen and bunch of lines about my hardware, could someone please help me get this01:29
jedixLinuxJones: except nvidia's crap01:29
maxkemik: yes01:29
TheGnomeso then why the hell compile your own?01:29
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ompaul!chronos01:29
ubotuWish i knew, ompaul01:29
ompauldoh01:29
black13LinuxJones what were your thoughts?01:29
TheGnomeMotty1, do you have weird hardware?01:30
jedixto remove modules and such01:30
ilba7rwhat is the command line to logout from x session such as gnome, kde01:30
kemikhelloyo:  change hoary to breezy, "apt-get dist-upgrade"01:30
kemikhelloyo:  not that it is recommended, especially not if you need help already01:30
LinuxJonesjedix, the whole point of Ubuntu is so that folks don't have to compile anything, It just works :)01:30
helloyokemik: ok, if you think thats the best way01:30
TheGnomeilba7r, ctrl alt backspace01:30
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Motty1no i have normal hardware01:30
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Motty1normal dell hardware01:30
TheGnomejedix, sounds like you need to be using gentoo   : )01:31
jedixLinuxJones: I just installed it because mythtv packages existed.01:31
ilba7rThegnome does not always restart and i have to reboot01:31
sambagirl how do you shutdown ubutu?01:31
ilba7rthats why i asked for the command line01:31
helloyokemik, what do you mean? its not recommended to dist-upgrade? i think the installer is just using a wrong driver, but i dont know how to change it01:31
ilba7rshutdown o -h01:31
jedixTheGnome: I didn't say I wanted to compile everything myself, just the kernel01:31
LinuxJonesblack13, if a stock Ubuntu kernel works ok for you and you don't need to compile for extra functionality jsut use the stock kernel. It will create alot of work that is not necessary.01:31
kemikhelloyo:  Breezy is not stable, so it can break your entire system01:31
LinuxJonesjedix, that's fine01:31
kemikjedix:  so download it and compile? ;)01:32
black13LinuxJones unfortunately i need squasfs01:32
Motty1thegnome: i have normal dell hardware... can you help me verify my iso ?01:32
jedixkemik: I did, but the nvidia package won't work for me.01:32
helloyokemik, yeah, i realise that, i can fix quite a few things, but no idea how to change the driver01:32
TheGnomejedix, using the gui log out dont work01:32
TheGnomeMotty1, how do i do that?01:32
kemikhelloyo:  what driver?01:32
Motty1thegnome i dont know im a noob with linux01:32
jedixTheGnome: what?01:33
Motty1TheGnome: Md5 checksum verification01:33
helloyokemik, it comes up with an error that says 8139cp not supported, try 8139too01:33
funkyHatMotty1, are you running linux now? or windows?01:33
sambagirlshutdown o -h01:33
sambagirlright?01:33
TheGnomeMotty1, using  a microsoft PC ...well dell same thing.....is not always gonna be compatible with linux01:33
sambagirldoes not work01:33
Motty1funkyhat: windows xp sp201:33
Motty1thegnome: oh01:34
TheGnomeahhhhhhh01:34
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kemikhelloyo:  perhaps get the driversoftware from manufacturer, compile and then "modprobe"01:34
LinuxJonesblack13, you will be compiling every kernel when a security problem arises and associated modules like 3rd party drivers each time as well :(01:34
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sambagirlhow do you shutdown ubuntu to reboot it/01:34
sambagirl?01:34
kemikhelloyo:  in worst case scenario you'll have to recompile the kernel aswell :/01:34
LinuxJonessambagirl, shutdown -r now01:34
kemiksambagirl:  "reboot"01:34
MrPocketssystem, log off, reboot01:34
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TheGnomeMotty1, try downloading a small linux distro like.......DSL or something...see if that boots01:34
sambagirlwhat cahh ok01:34
helloyokemik, i think i'll wait then... haven't had problems before, so i guess it will be fixed01:34
Motty1TheGnome: im on my laptop sitting next to the comp im trying to put linux on01:35
tristanmikeTheGnome: why are Dells not Linux friendly??01:35
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TheGnomeive seen linux on dells before01:35
kemikhelloyo:  but your NIC is not working now ?01:35
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dubniumanyone know how to edit $PATH to contain gcc c complier?01:35
jtan325i'm using linux right now, on a dell inspiron 850001:35
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TheGnomedells are evil01:36
kemikhelloyo:  i think you can try to get the 8139too source/binary and modprobe it01:36
jtan325dubnium, you shouldn't have to do that01:36
helloyokemik, i am using hoary at the moment, and its working fie01:36
zerboxxDoes anyone here use mrtg?01:36
dubniumhello, I am having trouble install apps, the error reads: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH.. i installed the latest gcc package and still have an issue01:36
jtan325dubnium, but if you must01:36
tristanmikeYeah, Dells may be evil, but lots of people run them01:36
kemikhelloyo:   oh.. i c.. so why isit complaining? =)01:36
LinuxJonesblack13, all of that stuff is done for you but the nice folks in the Ubuntu devel team. All you have to do is keep your system upgraded regularly.01:36
helloyokemik, the installer stops at something like "Downloading file 7 of 8"01:36
jtan325it would something like "export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/gcc"01:36
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helloyokemik, haha, exactly01:36
jtan325and you'd put that in your .bashrc01:36
dubniumhow can i find the path to gc?01:36
TheGnomehey man I own a dell too01:36
tristanmikewhat would cause the installer to come up with an Installer Screen then after enter not do anything01:36
TheGnomejust not my linux machine01:36
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black13so i could get a kernel with squashfs support?01:37
jedixLinuxJones: well the stock kernel won't boot01:37
pfpdubnium: what does "which gcc" say?01:37
dubniumi just installed 401:37
tristanmikeTheGnome: I like dells myself, looking into getting their laptop01:38
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LinuxJonesblack13, what is that ?01:38
LinuxJonesjedix, at what point does it fail ?01:38
TheGnometristanmike, dells used to be good......they have gone downhill with hardware....using the cheapest of cheap components01:38
pfpdubnium: try installing "build-essential" instead01:39
tristanmikeTheGnome: I wouldn't get one for a Desktop, but for a laptop, sure01:39
dubniumk i'll try that01:39
TheGnomejedix, if the stock kernel dont boot how did you compile your own?01:39
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black13LinuxJones (god i love that name) how do i go about getting a 2.6 kernel with squashfs support via the apt-get proces?01:39
sambagirlheh01:39
sambagirlnice clean machien now01:39
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sambagirlwow you should see all the stuff on my desktop my stars01:39
Concord_Dawnanyone know what the traceroute command is in Ubuntu?01:39
black13BlackBeltJones01:39
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velox_The mind boggles. dpkg installing itself.01:40
LinuxJonesjedix, don't forget you modified your xorg config file to load the nvidia modules which aren't on that machine for your kernel01:40
black13route01:40
kemikConcord_Dawn:  traceroute? =)01:40
dubniumya that contents looks liek it should work01:40
TheGnometristanmike, yeah laptops are cool01:40
Concord_Dawnkemik, nope.01:40
velox_That has to cause some sort of temporal distortion or something...its like the chicken and the egg.01:40
kemikConcord_Dawn:  apt-get it01:40
tristanmikeTheGnome: I'm touring with an Acting Group in september and I'd like to get a portable Ubuntu01:40
jedixLinuxJones: I didn't say x failed, I said the stock kernel will not boot01:40
jedixTheGnome: it did work01:40
jedixnow it doesn't01:40
sakonhi here  downloaded a theme from gnome-look.com but cant run it  any piece of advice?01:41
zerboxxHas anyone here installed torrentflux?01:41
TheGnomesakon, what theme01:41
sakonsorry gnome-look.org01:41
OwnageLinuxdude u extract it with the archivier zerboxx01:41
LinuxJonesjedix, how did you install Ubuntu without the stock kernel working ?01:41
TheGnomesakon, did you untar it?01:41
jedixIt did work, now it won't boot01:41
sakonhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=23679 this one01:41
zerboxxOwnageLinux: wha?01:41
dubniumpfp, kinda worked but now I get this :configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.01:41
sakonTheGnome: yes i did01:41
dubniumhave anything to do with the other stuff i installed.. should i uninstall it01:42
kemikdubnium:  got the "build-essential" package installed?01:42
TheGnomesakon, your not supposed to..............just leave it tarred and drag it into the themes app01:42
dubniumyup01:42
tristanmikesakon: you shouldn't need to untar it01:42
LinuxJonesblack13, I am not sure if you can patch or compile a module for your kernel with that functionality. Maybe you could ask in #ubuntu-devel, Explain your situation and ask for advise...someone may have pitty on you :)01:42
sakonok ok  ill try again01:42
pfpdubnium: you don't have the gtk development pkg installed; prolly you'll need other dev packages aswell01:42
kemikdubnium:  libgtk-2.1-dev perhaps01:43
jedixLinuxJones: it did work.. clearly, but now it doesn't01:43
tristanmikesakon: just open up the themes window01:43
LinuxJonesjedix, what error comes up when it stops working ?01:43
pfpdubnium: install at least libgtk2.0-dev01:43
tristanmikesakon: System-->Preferences-->Theme and "install new theme" and just pick the archive01:43
black13LinuxJones ... ok ill take this tact ... just get the kernel to work first without the udf-fs errors then worry about patching it01:43
kemikdubnium:  libgtk2.0-dev01:43
sakontristanmike: i did some but i get back an invalid format01:44
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tristanmikewhat theme did you download exactly?01:44
lzis there a tutorial for installing tor onto my newly installed ubuntu?01:44
pfpdubnium: "apt-cache search something dev" to look for other devel packages...01:44
dubniumkemik, seems its not installed, no installing 16 packages01:44
TheGnomesakon, yeah it said invalid format when it was untarred right01:44
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sakonhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=23679 this one01:45
black13LinuxJones what are the commands to build the kernel?01:45
sakonTheGnome: both01:45
LinuxJonesblack13, you can also request functionality to be added to a stock kernel, the developers are very good about things like that, they want to keep their user base happy :)01:45
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TheGnomesakon, let me try01:45
sakonTheGnome: untared and tared01:45
sakonTheGnome: ok01:45
LinuxJonesblack13, that's a long process :D01:45
kemikdubnium:  lets hope it works after that then =)01:45
Fanskapconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH01:46
FanskapSee `config.log' for more details.01:46
sakonTheGnome: i already found the problem01:46
jedixLinuxJones: I'd love to tell you but I can't see it.01:46
Fanskapanyone know how to solve this ? trying to compile mysql01:46
dubniumheh thats what im working on fanskap01:46
sakonTheGnome: did not read the description under the theme01:46
LinuxJonesjedix, hit ctrl+alt+F201:47
TheGnomesakon, what does it say01:47
Fanskapi see01:47
tristanmikeTheGnome: it's a .zip01:47
TheGnomeAHHHHHHH01:47
jedixLinuxJones: Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!01:47
pfpFanskap: do you have a special reason to compile mysql?01:47
TheGnomeCanadian Grass01:47
nophixFanskap: why compile when there's a package?01:47
kemikFanskap:  got "build-essential" installed?01:48
Fanskapahh01:48
sakonTheGnome: i have to untar it to the gnome-theme-manager01:48
jedixLinuxJones: the keyboard does nothing at this point.01:48
sakonTheGnome: do u know where this one is located01:48
LinuxJonesjedix, is that one of your old kernels ?01:48
FanskapI want a custom build of php5-apache and mysql01:48
TheGnomesakon, thats not what it says01:48
Fanskapway easier to update if i compile it by my self afterwards01:48
LinuxJonesjedix, maybe that didn't work01:49
lzcan someone teach me how to get tor installed please?  i've done apt-get install tor privoxy but tells me that "/var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID"01:49
jedixLinuxJones: no, I rebooted to go into your suggested stock kernel01:49
pfpFanskap: k, you need to install build-essential then (like kemik said)01:49
lzso should i chown myID /var/lib/tor ?01:49
sakonTheGnome: ok so to the other themes i think01:49
dubniumkemik, pfp, thanx seems to work now01:49
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jedixLinuxJones: and for some reason my working kernel has been removed from my grub.conf01:49
kemikdubnium:  cool :)01:49
sakonTheGnome: or do u mean just a dir with /.themes01:49
Concord_Dawnjedix, you mean menu.lst?01:49
LinuxJonesjedix, you must have had a working kernel after installation01:49
Fanskappfp ahh yeah just thought that out :)01:50
TheGnomesakon, yeah unzip to .themes01:50
jedixConcord_Dawn: they are fucking symlinked01:50
Fanskapthought i had installed that allready but that was on my laptop installation  :)01:50
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Fanskapgetting tired i guess01:50
TheGnomesakon, i think it is in your home folder01:50
kemikFanskap:  it's only 2am.. the night is young ;)01:50
Concord_Dawnlanguage jedix01:50
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sakonTheGnome: yeah im trying already01:51
TheGnomesakon, didnt work for me01:51
vitrioli'm having trouble getting ati drivers installed on hoary01:51
jedixLinuxJones: yes I did, but this one clearly doesn't.. and it's listed like 4 times and only memtest86 is the other one01:51
vitriolerror message is: [fglrx:firegl_init_32compat_ioctls]  *ERROR* unable to register ioctl32 001:51
jedixawesome.01:51
vitriolanybody know a fix for that?01:52
TheGnomevitriol, what did you try01:52
black13LinuxJones what make-kpkg01:52
vitriolTheGnome: well i tried installing them myself from ati01:52
jedixLinuxJones: I am running a 64bit box if that has anything to do with it01:52
vitriolTheGnome: that didn't work :) same exact message01:52
jedixor I was.01:52
black13what about using make-kpkg01:52
sakonTheGnome: for me did not work too01:52
TheGnomevitriol, thats your problem01:52
tristanmikesakon: the themes folder is in your homes directory but you have to "Show hidden files"01:52
vitriolTheGnome: what?01:52
sakonTheGnome: somewhere is a bug01:52
Fanskapkemik, mm not if you're going to a party tomorow :)01:52
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TheGnomevitriol, use the ubuntu video drivers01:53
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sakontristanmike: already did01:53
TheGnome!ati01:53
uboturumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:53
sakontristanmike: did not work01:53
tristanmikesakon: sorry, little behind'01:53
vitriolTheGnome: i get the same error message with the ubuntu ati drivers01:53
TheGnomevitriol, ^01:53
vitriolTheGnome: i tried those first01:53
LinuxJonesjedix, perhaps it would be faster to do a re-install and stick with the stock kernel01:53
sakontristanmike: does not matter01:53
vitriolTheGnome: xorg-drivers-fglrx ;)01:53
TheGnomevitriol, what card u got?01:53
Karhutonvitriol, I get that too01:53
OwnageLinuxGuys do u no where the direct connection feature is on gaim/01:53
tristanmikesakon: you are running Gnome, right?01:53
sakonyeah01:53
Karhutonvitriol, But no problems with OpenGL or XV acceleration01:53
TheGnomevitriol, did you edit xorg.conf01:53
sakontristanmike: hope so ;)01:53
Karhutonvitriol, Nor tv-out01:54
vitriolTheGnome: TheGnome well...no i didn't01:54
tristanmikesakon: your not running Kubuntu are you i mean?01:54
jedixLinuxJones: that's the worst idea I have ever heard01:54
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TheGnomevitriol, there ya go01:54
vitriolTheGnome: since the module isn't loaded there's not much point :(01:54
OwnageLinuxGuys do u no where the direct connection feature is on gaim01:54
kemikany way to mass-rename files? like ABDS to ABDS.mp3 ?01:54
Wanderer_Can someone help a frustrated noob? I can't even get Ubuntu to install, for cryin' out loud!01:54
mirakwhy isn't there an authentication prompt from the shell when you try to do something on which you don't have the rights, just like the GUI do ?01:54
Karhutonvitrol, so I don't see any effects from it :) Using 8.16, or what ever the version was. *16* something :\01:54
TheGnomevitriol, well did you add the module?01:54
sakontristanmike: no01:54
LinuxJonesjedix, or you would boot into your own kernel and undo the nvidia-glx stuff01:54
OwnageLinuxGuys do u no where the direct connection feature is on gaim01:54
vitriolTheGnome: [fglrx:firegl_init_32compat_ioctls]  *ERROR* unable to register ioctl32 0 <<<<what i get when i try to modprobe the module01:54
Fanskapphew.. damn.. seems to take ages to update the freebsd ports collection :)01:54
pfpkemik: "rename"01:55
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ilovetoastmaker# Appears as ANNA01:55
TheGnomevitriol, hmmm i was just talking to someone who had the same problem01:55
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jedixLinuxJones: I have it booting now01:55
FanskapUpdating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..01:55
surfduewhat command do i use to findout what is using my sound driver01:55
Fanskapbeen saying that for a while :)01:55
LinuxJonesjedix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select vesa as the video card driver and select defaults for everyting else01:55
jedixLinuxJones: but I'd like to get the stock kernel working like you did01:55
Wanderer_Hello?01:55
surfduelsof .. what?01:55
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sakonTheGnome: did u try something new? or did u let it go?01:55
TheGnomeWanderer_, hello01:55
vitriolTheGnome: see, this is what i get when i try to modprobe it: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted01:55
LinuxJonesjedix, well good luck with that01:55
jedixLinuxJones: it is not the nvidia driver that is causing the kernel to not boot.01:56
kemikpfp:  hmm, always use mv.. gotta man that stuff, does it use reg.exps=01:56
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TheGnomesakon, i just let it go .....im not a fan of that theme01:56
Wanderer_Can someone help me get Ubuntu installed?01:56
LinuxJonesjedix, I am off for a cig and beer good luck01:56
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tristanmikesakon: i think I have the solution.....01:56
sakontristanmike: yes?01:56
sakontristanmike: tell me pls01:56
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pfpkemik: yep, for example rename 's/$/.mp3/' ~/mp3-blaa/*01:56
tristanmikesakon: go to the Themes selector again01:57
pfp.. to add the suffix01:57
sakontristanmike: ok01:57
kemikpfp:  thx01:57
tristanmikesakon: this time select one of the current themes, whichever one, it doesn't matter01:57
sakontristanmike: ok01:57
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Wanderer_Could some one help me?01:57
TheGnometheme details01:57
Wanderer_Please?01:57
TheGnomeWanderer_, whats the problem01:57
tristanmikesakon: now pick theme details01:57
sakontristanmike: ok01:57
ilovetoastmaker(#G010E476RM1) any idea how how to get a usb pc port to work, i need to connect to the internet on linux01:58
sakontristanmike: ah i see01:58
kemikthats a powerful tool. will keep that in mind in the future01:58
syndwhats the irssi command to load scripts01:58
tristanmikesakon: go to window boarder01:58
alecsynd: /script01:58
sakontristanmike: ok01:58
tristanmikesakon: do you see it there?01:58
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synd01:59
syndhmm01:59
TheGnomeWanderer_, you there!!!!!01:59
tristanmikesakon: do you see it??01:59
zerboxxI'm setting up Apache and mysql, and I was wondering if someone can talk to me 1on1 for a minute or two just to make sure I don't mess anything up01:59
TheGnomeWanderer_, if you want help you may have to talk to me01:59
tristanmikesakon: cause I do in mine01:59
sakontristanmike: i do too02:00
Wanderer_I can't get the installer to behave. It gets to the part where I'm supposed to press "enter" and it's supposed to do its' thing. Instead, it gives me loading messages, reboots, and then goes back to the same screen, where I repeat the process, ad infintium.02:00
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sakontristanmike: thanks02:00
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sakontristanmike: god bless u02:00
sakontristanmike: :)02:00
tristanmikesakon: I spent 3 weeks trying to find my themes when they were here all the time....02:00
TheGnomeWanderer_, what kind of hardware do you have02:00
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sakontristanmike: ah i see02:00
Wanderer_That is, I press "enter" it does that.02:00
tristanmikesakon: It's missleading cause they're not themes, per se02:00
Wanderer_Hardware? What, specifically?02:01
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sakontristanmike: i just spent days setting up a wifi in windows02:01
jonohas anyopne got a working up to date breezy?02:01
TheGnomeWanderer_, what kind of computer do you have] 02:01
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sakontristanmike: and in ubuntu it was managed in hours02:02
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vitriolis there and amd64-agp module?02:02
sakontristanmike: or better said minuts02:02
Wanderer_HP with Windows XP OS (SP 02).02:02
sakontristanmike: or better said minutes02:02
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fanskapethmm is the dri support broken in the ati driver for mobility chipsets?02:02
tristanmikesakon: I hear that, I feel like I'm an Ubuntu success story, not a problem...just lack of knowlege02:02
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vitriolfanskapet: problems?02:02
vitriolfanskapet: i'm having issues too02:02
TheGnomeWanderer_, hardware????????  uhh processer ram that type of thing02:02
LinuxJonesTheGnome, good idea :)02:02
vitriolTrying to register duplicated ioctl32 handler c0246400 < stuff like that in dmesg when trying to load the fglrx driver, fanskapet?02:03
sakontristanmike: but thanks  ill soon come up with another problem ull see02:03
tristanmikesakon: I'm here everyday with problems of my own02:03
fanskapetvitriol dunno just installed the driver and ran the fglrx_gears app02:03
fanskapetbut i guess one should get more fps than ~300 fps?02:03
tristanmikesakon: glad I could help, especially cause the themes thing irritated me for so long02:03
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mike23greetings02:04
vitriolfanskapet: i'd tell you if i could get the driver installed ;)02:04
mike23what is the password for admin tasks under cups iin ubuntu?02:04
alxarchrhx where are you?02:04
LinuxJonesmike23, your users password02:04
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vitriolscrew it i'm going to try breezy out02:04
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LinuxJonesmike23, if you installed Ubuntu02:04
mike23negative does not work02:04
sakontristanmike: with the most obvious things are the most problems02:04
fanskapetvitriol :)02:05
Wanderer_Ummm... HP Pavillion PC with Intel Celeron CPU 2.93 GHz 248 MB RAM.02:05
LinuxJonesmike23, so the account that your using was not the one that you created when you installed Ubuntu ?02:05
sockpuppe1if I just compiled and installed JACK, do I have to restart for it to work02:05
sockpuppe1?02:05
tristanmikesakon: murphy's law, if I ever met Murphy, i'd slap him in the face with a Trout02:05
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mike23no02:05
jonoanyone have troubles with libdri1-xorg ?02:05
TheGnomeWanderer_, hmm that should be fine.........did you download the cd or get it in the mail02:05
tristanmikesakon: and say, "why'd you create so many problematic laws"02:05
Wanderer_Mail.02:05
mike23it says localhost02:05
jedixhrm02:06
LinuxJonesmike23, can you log back in using the account you installed Ubuntu with ?02:06
jedixstill won't boot the stock kernel02:06
mike23but I never gave localhost a user name02:06
TheGnomeWanderer_, oooooo.........did you try hitting f1 instead of enter02:06
sockpuppe1can someone enlighten me02:06
sockpuppe1?02:06
Wanderer_Yep.02:06
TheGnomesockpuppe1, ok with what02:06
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sockpuppe1lol02:06
mike23what?02:06
TheGnomeWanderer_, the only thing i can think of...is to google it02:06
mike23I have one user me02:06
LinuxJonesmike23, I don't know what that means02:06
sockpuppe1if i just compiled and installed JACK do I have to restart for it to work02:07
Wanderer_GOOGLE IT ???02:07
sakontristanmike: :)02:07
TheGnomeWanderer_, yes google it02:07
LinuxJonesmike23, waht are you using to try to configure cups ?02:07
sakontristanmike: where are u from?02:07
Wanderer_How would that help me?02:07
mike23http://localhost:63102:07
tristanmikesakon: the Great White North Canada02:07
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LinuxJonesmike23, try sudo gnome-cups-manager02:08
sakontristanmike: u like icehockey?02:08
LinuxJonessakon, all Canadian boys like hockey :)02:08
mike23oh kay02:08
blrichcan someone help? I can't get my webcam recognised. I'm wondering where I should look for drivers or what I should do02:08
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tristanmikesakon: i don't think there is a Canadian alive who doesn't like hockey02:08
tristanmikeroad or ice02:08
TheGnomeWanderer_, cuz i have found alot of answers that way02:08
brk3could someone tell me what argument do you give to dpkg to upgrade a package?02:08
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sockpuppe1blrich what camera model?02:09
sakontristanmike: ice02:09
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Wanderer_How can I google a problem when I don't know what it is?02:09
gmooreftp question: i got my server set up properly but when i get someone to connect they get "500: Illegal port command" and cannot complete the connection. ideas?02:09
LinuxJonesWanderer_, you ask here :)02:09
tristanmikesakon: ice or road, it doens't matter to us, we do have a summer and still have to play hockey, so road hockey it is02:09
TheGnomeWanderer_, omg ......... just use windows02:09
mike23liuxJones: thanks you da man02:09
sakontristanmike: ah i see02:09
LinuxJonesWanderer_, what is happening that is causing you grief ?02:09
blrichsockpuppe1, it's called amn Omni Golden Eye, but it's just generic I think. It has night vision. Works under windows no problem, just your standard 640x480 30fps webcam02:09
LinuxJonesmike23, have fun :)02:09
sockpuppe1lol, that was so l337 of you lol02:10
zerboxxI'm following a guide to set up apache and mysql, and I deleted my main user (jon) from mysql.user.  Should I worry about adding myself again, or am I ok with just "root"?02:10
LinuxJonesjono, when does next season of LugRadio start up ?02:10
sakontristanmike: so the nhl begins but im not so happy cause all of our good players are going to the oversea leagues02:10
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crlsnrhi everyone...has anyone been successful with using a WUSB11v2.5 usb adapter in Hoary?02:10
TheGnomehey what is the package i need to get mp3 support in rythmbox?02:10
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jtan325!media02:11
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, jtan32502:11
jtan325!restrictedformats02:11
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'02:11
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mike23anyone looking to use an ncurses great irc client google bnirc02:11
tristanmikesakon: they'll be back02:11
sakontristanmike: wont be such good hockey like it was this year in our first league02:11
sockpuppe1brb02:11
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LinuxJonesTheGnome, >> gstreamer0.8-mad02:11
mike23it works with festival tts02:11
jonoLinuxJones, Oct 24th should be Season 3 Episode 1 :)02:11
Luna-TickHello folks, does anyone here know about silcgaim in Ubuntu?02:11
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elvirolohi all, could anyone tell me a play of converting mpc files to ogg ? sox doesn't seem to handle mpc files02:11
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TheGnomeLinuxJones, thank you02:11
LinuxJonesjono, I wonder if Breezy Badger release will be mentioned on the show :)02:12
Wanderer_I can't get the installer to behave. It goes to the first screen fine, and I press "enter". It says a bunch of stuff about uncompressing this or that, then says something about the kernel (I can't say exactly what, since the text moves so fast). Then the PC reboots, goes to the first screen, and the whole process starts over.02:12
jonoLinuxJones, heh, I have a hunch it will ;)02:12
tristanmikesakon: no, I hope the salary caps will get groups of players who just want to play hockey and not make a gazzilion dollars, that's when hockey get's good02:12
jonoI am trying to get breezy working right02:12
LinuxJonesjono, BTW I think that is too long of a break !!02:12
brk3do people here hate kubuntu?? Ive just being told you do02:12
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elviroloidas anyone ?02:13
crimsunelvirolo: use mpcdec02:13
LinuxJonesjono, I want a weekly fix of lugradio02:13
Gratbrk3 why should we?02:13
crimsunelvirolo: pipe the output to oggenc's stdin02:13
Gratthe only diffrence is KDE02:13
benplautOK, OK, maybe that was a bit excessive02:13
Wanderer_Linux Jones?02:13
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Luna-TickLinuxjones - I don't hate kubuntu, it just doesn't seem to work as well...02:13
sakontristanmike: what are salary caps02:13
benplautinstall Hoary so that crossover office will install, then emulate from within breezy :P02:13
sakontristanmike: ?02:13
fissyhello... i'm using ubuntu breezy and am being driven slowly mad by the panel dying every 5 minutes... is that a known issue?02:13
brk3Grat: no reason at all, just some idiot said ye do02:13
TheGnomebrk3, i dont02:13
tristanmikesakon: it's why the nhl was on strike. A money issue between the players and the owners02:13
crimsunfissy: "breezy".02:13
TheGnomebrk3, i just like gnome better02:14
blrichcan anyone help? can;t get my webcam recognised. lsusb gives this:   Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. Sansun SN-510 WebCam [hv713d]        any suggestions?02:14
fissycrimsun: ?02:14
jonoLinuxJones, heh02:14
kafeinefissy, there is a reason it's refferred to as 'testing'02:14
Gratbrk3: you just tell him that....02:14
kafeineanyways02:14
brk3Grat: i will :)02:14
fissyso you don't want it fixed then?02:14
TheGnomebrk3, i have found kubuntu to be a little more buggy02:14
kafeineanyone had any luck with ati drivers under breezy?02:14
LinuxJonesjono, :)02:14
fissywhat a ridiculous thing to sy02:14
fissysay02:14
brk3TheGnome: thats what he said02:14
fissyi know it's the development distro02:14
tristanmikesakon: some teams, don't get all that much money, and therefore can't afford the big players, and since they can't, they fall further and further behind the winning teams.02:15
TheGnomebrk3, but not much at all02:15
TheGnomebrk3, i fixed all the bug by doing some tweaking02:15
crlsnrwho here is good at connecting with wlan?02:15
crimsunfissy: there're quite a lot of things in flux in Breezy. The issue is known. Be patient, or revert to Hoary.02:15
sakontristanmike: ah i see02:15
zerboxxCan anybody here help me with an apache setup? I'm working through the wiki but I'd still like a hand02:15
tristanmikesakon: the salary cap is in place to stop one team from buying up all the good players. Basically each team is allowed to spend "X" ammount on players and anymore than that would have to be negociated02:16
sakontristanmike: its alway about money . so02:16
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kafeinefissy, it's actually a known issue of gnome-panel. it does it, every now and then. it happens in hoary, even02:16
sakontristanmike: bill doesnt work for free too ;)02:16
fissyok, all i was wondering was whether i should make a bugzilla post or not crimsun. is there any fix known?02:16
ubercompuserkubuntu has been buggy with the gui... for me. back when i did use it for a week02:16
splittaany showstoppers in colony3 we should know about ?02:16
fissyhmm... not every 5 minutes :D02:16
tristanmikesakon: but the salary cap is to stop the salarys from reaching too high02:16
crimsunsplitta: please read the posts regarding Colony 3 on -users02:16
kafeinefissy, whenever you wonder about some bug like this, and wheter to post it or not, try searching the bugzilla first for this specific issue02:17
tristanmikesakon: the ONLY money Bill ever got out of me was for my mouse and keyboard02:17
kafeineto see it it's reported already or not02:17
fissykafeine: i did02:17
TheGnometristanmike, why did he even get that?02:17
ubercompuseri think kubuntu should create there own release dates and not rely on someone else so they can debugg it and make it run smoother02:17
tristanmikesakon: and that's ALL he will ever get if I can knowingly help it02:17
TheGnometristanmike, lol02:17
fissybut when you don't know more than 'it crashes a lot' bugzilla isn't so helpful02:17
sakontristanmike: we made a joke with a wallpaper out of his new vista02:17
tristanmikeTheGnome: You don't have to give me a papercut, then pour lemon juice on it. I feel dirty enough....02:17
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kafeinebugzilla ain't exactly an example of an user-friend application, true02:18
tristanmikeTheGnome, lol02:18
TheGnometristanmike, well you do have a dell.....which is owned by microsoft02:18
sakontristanmike: its pretty simple Virus Infectin Spyware Trojans Adware  thats all the new OS is made of02:18
tristanmikeTheGnome: I don't own one...yet02:18
Grathehe :>02:18
sakontristanmike: but Vista could be pretty interesting02:18
tristanmikeTheGnome: I had my computer custom built02:19
TheGnomei built mine myself02:19
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tristanmikeTheGnome, with Asus and nVidia parts02:19
TheGnomeand it was soo cheap02:19
sakontristanmike: there shouldnt be any foulders but only objects02:19
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kafeinei can't see the point in buying a computer built by some company like dell02:19
grigorawhat do I need to do to play a DVD movie with Totem? or is Totem not for DVDs? thanks02:19
kafeineor whatever company it is...02:19
abysslo where i can get an mp3 codec for playing mp3s?02:19
kafeinegrigora, sudo apt-get install totem-xine libdvdcss202:19
tristanmikeTheGnome, Dell is owned by Microsoft??02:19
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TheGnometristanmike, they are now02:20
kafeinecomputers are made to be custom built...02:20
kafeinethats the fun in computing, after all02:20
Tom-Wis the 5.10 build allot better than the 5.04 build? I got 5.04 at a local PC shop but I see 5.10 is out02:20
tristanmikeTheGnome, thanx you just settled it for me, i was gonna buy their laptop, guess not now....02:20
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kafeineTom-W, it is not out yet02:20
pcharkyHello there, can anybody help me get the line-in on my SB Aud2 to work?02:20
kafeineit's testing02:20
Tom-Wwhat?02:20
jbullabyss:  the gstreamer-mad package should do it02:21
TheGnometristanmike, no .... they are still good pc's im sure bill dont get ALL of the money lol02:21
grigorakafeine: thanks02:21
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kargath64hey, anyone know of any free software that can resize partitions?  I need one to install ubuntu...02:21
Tom-Wis the testing version better than 5.04?02:21
kafeineTom-W, the 5.10 is not out yet. what is out is a testing pre-release02:21
kafeinekh..02:21
abysshow i can get this? im a little bit new to, old debian user :)02:21
kafeinewell, it is newer, you can count on that02:21
tristanmikeTheGnome, he won't get a penny from me, knowingly, he's condemed OSS since the beginning02:21
Tom-Wlol02:21
kafeinebut it can't par with hoary's stability, yet.02:21
fissyis there likely to be a pre-release on gnome 2.12's release day/02:21
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kemikabyss:  apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad02:21
Gratkargath64: i dont know if its free, but there is partition magic for windows02:21
kargath64:(02:22
fissyi've found those releases to be perfectly stable enough the past couple of times02:22
benplautbreezy is pretty stable for me, so far02:22
kargath6490 bucks02:22
abysslol pretty easy the debian way ;)02:22
abyssthx02:22
tristanmikeTheGnome, If I had been aware of Linux earlier, I would've migrated long ago02:22
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kafeinebreezy's stable for me too:)02:22
Gratkargath64: ah sorry02:22
kargath64can the installer handle partitioning?02:22
tristanmikeI DON'T LIKE BULLIES!02:22
kemikabyss:  ubuntu is sortof like debian, but even easier ;)02:22
kafeineand for a lot of us02:22
kafeinekargath64, yes02:22
TheGnometristanmike, well i dont think bill knew his os would be condemed to virus's and such02:22
kargath64but I lose the data, yeah?02:23
kafeinebut i wouldn't recommend breezy to newbies yet02:23
kafeinekargath64, depends02:23
kafeinewhat exactly do you want to do?02:23
Luna-Tickkargath the installer doesn't really support partitioning... not like Mandrake's02:23
Gratmake a partiton smaller i presume02:23
leonel<kemik> abyss:  ubuntu is sortof like debian, but even easier ;) <-- and with security updates :)02:23
kargath64all I have is a single NTFS partition taking up the whole drive02:23
TheGnome!dma02:23
kafeinewell02:23
grigoraon a different note, FYI, the Flash plugin for Mozilla (the package) constantly crashes, but a manual install from Macromedia works fine02:23
kargath64with windows on it02:23
Tom-WVISTA = Viruses, infections, spyware, trojans,adware ?02:23
tristanmikeTheGnome, he probably thought the opposite by keeping it closed, but that's what you get when you try to hide your stuff from the world, they get insulted and do anything they can to find out what's so secret02:23
kafeinethat's gonna need formatting02:23
benplautyup02:23
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kemikkargath64:  just format it all :)02:23
Luna-TickLOL02:24
kargath64ah well02:24
TheGnome!dvd02:24
ubotu[dvd]  There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem02:24
abyssand the first who has a stable ppc G3 Xorg graphiccard driver that works02:24
kargath64backups time for me then02:24
Luna-TickIt does work02:24
Luna-TickI did it02:24
kafeineyup02:24
tristanmikekafeine, can't he resize the partition??02:24
kafeinetristanmike, mmm02:24
tristanmikekafeine, lol02:24
Luna-TickKarg - just be very careful02:24
TheGnomewhat is the hdparm dma command for dvd?02:24
Luna-Tickdefrag first,02:24
Grati dont thing resizing is possible :>02:24
tristanmikekafeine, ok, Marge...02:24
kafeinei'm not really familiar with ntfs' chances of resizing02:24
abysson debian i had to switch to unstable for xorg use and without xorg my xserver wont work ^^02:25
kafeineeven with win32 software02:25
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Luna-TickGrat; Kaffeine: it does work02:25
kemikyou can resize a ntfs partiotn with Partition Magic02:25
kemiknot with ubuntu-installer02:25
Luna-TickI did it without02:25
ubercompuseralso gparted02:25
kargath64Luna-Tick: how?02:25
kafeineooh02:25
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tristanmikekafeine, the wiki says this... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/I38602:25
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kafeinei wouldnt touch no ntfs under linux, no, sirre02:25
LinuxJoneskemik, I thought Ubuntu installer did ntfs02:25
kafeinetristanmike, possible02:25
kafeinentfs is a chimera, anyway02:25
abyssexist in ubuntu a proggie like synaptic on debian?02:25
kafeineit aint no stable standard02:25
kafeineabyss, it's the same, and it's in it02:26
grigorakafeine: I cannot find libdvdcss2? what repository is it from? I have the officially supported as well as the community supported software repositories02:26
tristanmikekafeine, as long as you defrag the piss out of it.....02:26
Luna-Tickgrig: hoary extras02:26
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abysskafeine,  i think i will switch from debian to ubuntu generelly02:26
kafeinegrigora, should be in hoary-backports02:26
abyssits really pretty easy02:26
tristanmikekafeine, of course, if you can convince a re-format, then cudos to you02:26
Luna-TickYeah -hoary backports extras02:27
pcharkyHello there, can anybody help me get the line-in on my SB Aud2 to work?02:27
abyssbut whats the root pw? the installer never asked for!02:27
kargath64what's synaptic?02:27
kafeineabyss, you won't feel a big change, it's basically the same, but les packages, better release cycle, awesome community02:27
kemikabyss:  there is none02:27
kemik!root02:27
uboturoot is, like, totally, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:27
TheGnomewhat is the hdparm dma command for dvd?02:27
cyphaseis it possible to start a graphical application remotely, and have the window appear on the computer it's running on02:27
cyphase?02:27
kafeinekargath64, gtk frontend to apt-get02:27
kargath64oh ok :)02:27
vitriol!dma02:27
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kargath64no terminals for me :)02:28
kafeineabyss, it should be your user's pass02:28
abysssynaptic is a Xserver proggie for apt02:28
Tom-Wncyphase are you asking about nx?02:28
vitriol(i'd  like to know that too) ;)02:28
Luna-TickTheGnome: You can set it in hdparm02:28
kafeinetristanmike, a clean format will certainly be less dangerous02:28
kafeinei mean02:28
kemikcyphase:  possibly if you specifiy a running display on the server...02:28
kafeineyou *know* that with formatting everything's wiped out02:28
kemikcyphase:  but im really not sure how ;)02:28
Wanderer_Linux Jones?02:28
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kafeineand with resizing02:28
kafeineit could happen02:28
cyphasekemik, yea, me neither ;)02:28
Luna-TickTheGnome: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/02:28
tristanmikekafeine, I mean, that's how i did it, and just left room for the FAT and ext systems02:28
kafeinebut they don't really bother telling you that02:28
vitriolgah where do i get ndiswrapper from?02:28
benplaut!ndiswrapper02:29
ubotuit has been said that ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper02:29
kemikcyphase:  you could use VNC i guess... ;)02:29
vitriolthanks02:29
abyssexist divx and similar codec packages?02:29
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tristanmikekafeine, it's the best way, I wouldn't dissagree there at all02:29
kemik!restricted02:29
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:29
LinuxJonesWanderer_, what do you want ?02:29
kemikabyss:  that link, or use VLC02:29
fissyabyss, gstreamer-ffmpeg02:29
pschulz01Greetings.. how do I turn off (remove) a serial port from being used for a mouse?02:29
kargath64!partition02:29
ubotukargath64: Are you on ritalin?02:29
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kafeineabyss, try your movies with totem-xine, vlc, et cetera02:29
kargath64:(02:29
TheGnome/dev/hda:02:29
TheGnome setting using_dma to 1 (on)02:29
TheGnome HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted02:29
TheGnome using_dma    =  0 (off)02:29
Wanderer_I posted my problems awhile ago. Did not get a response.02:29
kargath64the bot doesn't like me02:29
kemiktotem should be banned02:29
kemik.>02:29
kafeinekargath64, the bot is stoopid02:30
kafeinedont worry02:30
fissytotem is awesome02:30
TheGnometotem-xine rocks02:30
kafeinehe's just a virgin and he hates us for it02:30
kafeineall of us02:30
jbullWanderer_:  what kind of problems?02:30
Luna-TickTheGnome - the cd/dvd drive is /dev/hdc02:30
Luna-Tickusually02:30
tristanmikeWanderer_, did you burn your cd yourself?02:30
Elsidoxcan someone help me? When I run apt-get update I get errors.02:30
Tom-Wncyphase is this what your looking for : http://www.nomachine.com/02:30
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TheGnomeLuna-Tick, no mine is hda02:30
Luna-Tickreally??02:30
Wanderer_No. Got it from a friend who ordered them.02:30
TheGnomeLuna-Tick, sure is02:30
Luna-Tickgee..02:30
LinuxJonesWanderer_, oh sorry man I didn't see, give me 2 mins to have a smoke and I will help if I can ok ?02:30
vitriol!bluetooth02:30
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, vitriol02:30
vitrioldamn you!02:31
Wanderer_OK.02:31
kafeineTheGnome, isnt that some hard drive or something?02:31
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tristanmikejbull, he is having problems after the Install Splash Screen; reboots02:31
LinuxJonesWanderer_, brb :)02:31
jbullhm...02:31
TheGnomeNO IT IS MY DVD DRIVE02:31
Luna-TickCalm02:31
kemikhdX just denotes where on the cable and which controller you've put the drive(s)02:31
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kafeinekhm.02:31
TheGnomesda is my hardrive02:31
grigorakafeine: thanks, but I don't know to how add hoary-backports, it's not on the Synaptic's repository list02:31
dimethylhey, does anyone know how i can get transcode binaries installed on ubuntu02:31
TheGnomecuz it isnt IDE02:31
Luna-TickNice02:31
tristanmikejbull, hit's return, and reboots, my friend Mot is having a very similar problem..02:31
pschulz01I would like to attach a device to '/dev/ttyS0' which is not a mouse..02:32
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grigorakafeine: apt-cache search libdvdcss2 can't seem to find it either02:32
kemikhda = primary master, hdb = primary slave, hdc = sec master hdd = sec slave...02:32
TheGnomeyes02:32
TheGnomehda = my dvd drive02:32
kafeinegrigora, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports?highlight=%28backports%2902:32
pschulz01.. when I plug ut in my ps/2 mouse get's slow and unresponsive02:32
tristanmikeTheGnome: that seems odd.....02:32
abysskafeine, how about wireless solutions on ubuntu like rt2500?02:32
Luna-TickBut possible02:32
TheGnometristanmike, why?02:32
ridiieanyone have any idea what this means... I got this error when trying to install bootmagic on a fat32 partition. "unable to write bootmagic to MBR, not enough free sectors"02:32
kemikit's not odd, he's put the DVD on primary master02:32
pschulz01Searching through /etc, '/dev/ttyS0' is mentioned in a couple of places..02:32
tristanmikeTheGnome, shouldn't the hard-drive be hda?02:33
Tom-Wlol02:33
kemikand SDA is scsi ?02:33
Luna-TickNo!02:33
kemikoh god..02:33
kafeineand grigora, don't even bother with the main backports, use mirrors instead02:33
kemikdoesnt ppl read ? =)02:33
nudnickcan someone help me out with my ubuntu instalation. i'm getting an error while it checks hardware02:33
Tom-Wsda is scsi yes02:33
abysson debian the system freeze if i use the rt2500 driver02:33
Luna-TickTristan - the harddrive is scsi so the first IDE thing that he has is his DVD drive02:33
kafeineabyss, can't help you with that, cause i have no wireless networking stuff around me02:33
pschulz01'/etc/inittab', 'sane.d/dc??.conf02:33
kafeinebut try the wiki and the forums02:33
tristanmikeLuna-Tick, sorry, I missed that, MY BAD!02:34
MrPocketsXMMS was being a douche, so i used the cleint killer to kill it,  how do i re initalize it now?02:34
kafeineand i'm sure there must be someone here who can help you on that one02:34
kemikLuna-Tick:  but it doesnt even work like that, now does it.. if he changes a cable his dvd will be HDC ;)02:34
kargath64so just confirming b4 i quit02:34
Luna-Tick*sigh*02:34
nudnick:( anyone?02:34
Luna-Tickthat is true02:34
pschulz01and 'securetty'02:34
kafeineMrPockets, $ xmms?02:34
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Tom-Wchange the boot oder in the bios , not to boot the cd before hd ???02:34
TheGnomekemik, your not getting it02:34
kargath64what partitioning features does the 5.04 installer have?02:34
jorgpI thought transcode in multiverse, but its not there02:34
tristanmikeTheGnome, nevermind, I missed the part when you said your drive was SCSI, sorry, my bad02:34
MrPocketsnah, i click the icon and nothing comes up02:35
gmooreanyone familiar with ftp servers in linux behind a router? i have mine set up and configured and i can connect internally but others cannot, they get error 425 could not build data connection.02:35
pschulz01nudnick: What hardware are u using?02:35
kemikTheGnome:  im sure i've got it.. take your secondary IDE controller and connect your DVD. it'll be /dev/hdc02:35
Luna-TickKarg: the features are to format the lot or use existing partitions02:35
kafeinekargath64, you can generally re-partition, delete partitions, create new partitions, and erase the entire hard drive02:35
Luna-Tickif I remember02:35
nudnickpschulz01 i'll PM you02:35
Luna-TickOh, okay02:35
pschulz01gmoore: set to connection to 'passive'..02:35
abyssE: Konnte Paket gstreamer0.8-mad nicht finden02:35
Luna-Tickkemik - will changing it to hdc make it easier to set DMA?02:35
kargath64ok02:36
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kemikLuna-Tick:  no ;)02:36
fissygmoore: do you know how to do port forwarding on your router?02:36
kargath64still feeling nervous02:36
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gmoorepschulz01: he can't connect in pasv either02:36
gmoorefissy: yes and the ftp port is forwarded02:36
kargath64but i'll give it a shot nyway :)02:36
kafeinekargath64, its normal, dont worry02:36
Luna-Tickthen it doesn't help ;)02:36
fissygmoore: and port 20?02:36
kafeineeverything's gonna mess up:D02:36
dimethyldoes anyone know how i can get transcode installed on ubuntu??...or if i can use another package to take divx > svcd ??02:36
gmoorefissy: oh i should forward 20? trying02:36
kafeineok folks, im gonna have some sleep02:36
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kafeinegood night all02:36
kargath64nyo02:36
dimethyllater02:36
tristanmikekargath64, good luck, I stared at the partitioning page for 2 days before building up the courage02:36
kemikLuna-Tick:  just thought it should be explained that HDA isnt "the first drive" or something.. it sort or correleates to hardware placing..02:36
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TheGnomewell im typing hdparm -d1 /dev/hda.........is that the right command02:36
gmooretrying now...02:37
fissygmoore: iirc the connection is done on port 21 and data istransferred on port 20... odd, perhaps i'm wrong02:37
LinuxJonesWanderer_, ok back02:37
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jorgpanyone know the apt-get line for transcode for breezy?02:37
grigorakafeine: even after adding [deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted]  to my /etc/apt/sources.conf I still cannot find libdvdcss2. any ideas?02:37
Luna-TickTheGnome - Not sure sorry, I went straight to hdparm, but I believe that there is a wiki page...02:37
LinuxJonesfissy, your right02:37
abysskafeine, E: Konnte Paket gstreamer0.8-mad nicht finden <- you really sure that package was named so?02:37
tristanmikeTheGnome: that'll turn DMA on if it's off02:37
dimethyljorgp, you trying to help me, or u have the same problem?02:37
kafeinegrigora, did you reload your packages before that?02:38
grigorakafeine: apt-get update?02:38
Luna-TickAnyway chaps, I must be off - good luck all02:38
tristanmikeTheGnome: or rather, tell you if it's on or off02:38
grigorakafeine: yes02:38
kafeinegrigora, khm02:38
tristanmikeLuna-Tick, take care02:38
kafeineabyss, yup02:38
Luna-Tickciao02:38
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kemikTheGnome:  edit your /etc/hdparm.conf and add this:02:38
grigorakafeine: what's khm?02:38
fissyLinuxJones: :) I don't quite understand why though.. other systems manage with just the one port02:38
kemikTheGnome:  wait for pastebin ;)02:38
abysskafeine, okay then it seems to be not in my apt sources02:38
jorgpdimethyl: dont know, I am not sure the repos that transcode is in02:38
LinuxJonesfissy, it's an old protocol02:38
kafeineit's like hm but in a more... kafeine way02:38
gmooreokay my ftp server is running on port 4096 and i have both that and port 20 forwarded to the machine running the server. my friend still can't connect, error 425 unable to build data connection using port, and using pasv he doesn't get a LIST.02:39
kemikTheGnome:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/141102:39
TheGnomekemik, no no no02:39
kafeinegrigora, use some of those mirrors http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php02:39
kemikTheGnome:  at least, thats what i've done to enable DMA on my drive02:39
kafeinepf02:39
Gratbye guys02:39
Gratenjoy02:39
kafeineand really, im going to bed, so, good luck to you all02:39
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kemikgnite kafeine02:40
kafeineand ill see you tomorrow02:40
tristanmikegood nite kafeine02:40
kemikTheGnome:  tried that ?02:40
fissygmoore: how come you've got it running on port 4096? have you forwarded both ports 20 & 21 to port 4096 because i don't imagine that would work02:40
kafeinenight yall02:40
abysskafeine, where i can download it then if my apt say that it not exist02:40
gmoorefissy: because the server i ran previously on my windows machine was on that port02:40
LinuxJonesgmoore, why not rn your server on the standard port ?02:40
gmooreokay i'll try it02:40
kafeineabyss, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%2902:40
kemikgmoore:  maybe you shouldnt run the dataport on the same port as control?02:41
TheGnomekemik, i dont want dma on for good02:41
kafeineand good luck, and good night, and whatnot02:41
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kemikTheGnome:  oh.. why not ??02:41
jorgpdimethyl: are you having same issue?02:41
gmooreokay when i run it on port 21, i can't even establish a connection locally. the machine doesn't even respond02:41
benplautyou guys know where i can find some 404 page ideas?02:41
tristanmikeabyss, I just check the "gstreamer0.8-mad" package is in synaptic02:41
abysstristanmike, my apt find nothing02:42
fissy:|02:42
kemikabyss:  you've added hoary-extras ?02:42
jtan325hmm02:42
jtan325anyone notice02:42
kemikabyss:  and done "apt-update" ?02:42
fissydoes the server have its own firewall gmoore?02:42
abysskemik, how? its a fresh ubuntu install (ppc)02:42
tristanmikeabyss, have you edited your sources.list yet??02:42
LinuxJonesgmoore, you realize that Ubuntu servers only listen on localhost by default. (for secutiry reasons)  Did you do any modifications to allow external networks to connect to your ftp server ?02:42
ilovetoastmakersomeone good at ubuntu im me: brianthebumpy02:42
kemik!repositories02:42
uboturumour has it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:42
TheGnomehda: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive02:42
abysstristanmike, no02:42
dimethyljorgp, yea, i cant get transcode installed02:42
gmooreLinuxJones: i did NOT know that and i have not set it up to allow external connections02:42
jtan325"please don't use breezy yet" is no longer in the topic02:42
jtan325...02:42
ilovetoastmakersomeone good at ubunu im me: brianthelumpy02:42
kemik!hoary-extras02:42
ubotuhoary-extras is, like, totally, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted02:42
LinuxJonesgmoore, that's your problem right there02:43
BTJusticeI went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930702:43
fissypresumably that's not the problem if it was allowing some sort of connection before on the weird port02:43
kemikabyss:  follow those links02:43
gmooreLinuxJones :)     what next?02:43
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jorgpdimethyl: what repos are you getting it from?02:43
jtan325is breezy "usable" now?02:43
jbullilovetoastmaker:  what do you need help with?02:43
Veloxilovetoastmaker: Please don't spam, it makes us less willing to help :P02:43
fissydoes the pope defecate in forests02:43
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tristanmikeabyss, i private messaged you02:43
dimethyljorgp, im not sure, i dont even know a lot about ubuntu02:43
LinuxJonesgmoore, what ftp server are you running ?02:43
dimethylwhich is pissing me off the way the do things02:43
gmooreproftpd02:43
LinuxJonesgmoore, there may be a howto on the wiki02:43
dimethyli just wanna burn a damn svcd02:43
jbulljtan325:  usable as it's ever been...although the cairo recompiles are causing some problems02:43
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LinuxJonesgmoore, vsftp is the prefered one for alot of distro these days02:44
jtan325jbull, well like i said, "please don't use breezy yet" is longer in the topic02:44
jtan325was that intentional?02:44
gmooreLinuxJones: i spent forever getting this configured, i'd really rather not change now :(02:44
LinuxJonesgmoore, try searching the wiki and see if it comes up with any info02:44
gmoorenothing on the wiki02:44
dimethyljorgp, im gonna keep trying for like a half hour.....pm me if you figure it out and ill do the same02:44
jbulljtan325:  ah, i didn't notice--no idea as to whether it was intentional or not02:44
TheGnomecan someone out there help me with enabling dma?02:45
jorgpdimethyl: ok02:45
kemikTheGnome:  why didnt you want it permanently ?02:45
dimethyllike, am i supposed to add servers to the sources.list?02:45
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jack|assdid hoary become stable?02:45
TheGnomekemik, ok i will try it......what file do i put that in?02:46
LinuxJonesgmoore, although not recommended here is ubuntuguide.org's proftp info >> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installftpserver    It should get you up and running02:46
kemikTheGnome:  /etc/hdparm.conf02:46
dimethylcan anyone tell me why i need the ubuntu install cdrom sometimes when i install packages/02:46
jtan325jbull, what are these cairo problems?02:46
jtan325i'm seriously condsidering upgrading repos to breezy02:47
gmooreLinuxJones: only has stuff that i've already done :02:47
gmoore:(02:47
jtan325but i gotta make sure the problems ain't so bad02:47
TheGnomekemik, everything is commented out?02:47
dimethylis it supposed to ask for the cd?02:47
LinuxJonesgmoore, did you restart the proftpd server after making the changes ?02:47
gmooreyes02:48
jbulljtan325:  for me, the only problem im having is that evince crashes on startup02:48
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gmooreon port 21 it won't even reply locally02:48
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kemikTheGnome:  well you add those lines i gave you at the end02:48
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kemikTheGnome:  and yes, my hdparm.conf is full of stuff that's commented-out02:48
jtan325hmmmm02:48
NatureTruthhelp!  I need the kernel source for kernel 2.10, how do I install it?02:48
gmoorestarted proftpd on port 21 and typed 'ftp localhost 21' gives me 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection02:48
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jtan325!topic02:48
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Wanderer_Ok. I'm back, Linux Jones. Did you see my problem post back a 1000 lines or so?02:48
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TheGnomekemik, do i have to reboot?02:49
BTJusticeI went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930702:49
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dimethylcan someone please message me their sources.list , mine is fsck'd up02:49
NatureTruthhelp!  I need to compile a new version of Alsa from source and it needs the kernel source, how do I install it?  It's not in synaptic02:50
gmoorelinux would you mind if i pmed you with the server info and you could try connecting? it's possible my friend just has a crappy client or router himself and the problem isn't on my end.02:50
hardw1reapt-cache search alsa02:50
kemikTheGnome:  i'm afraid so, i dont know anyother way02:50
hardw1rein root console02:50
TheGnomekemik02:50
TheGnomekemik, ok brb02:51
kemikTheGnome:  and it'll probably display an error, but DMA will be enabled...02:51
Wanderer_Ohhhhh...Liiiiinnniiix! Lllliiinniiix Joooohnnns!02:51
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jtan325Seveas, or bob2, what's the status of breezy if you guys are there?02:51
LinuxJonesgmoore, I haven't run an ftp server in like 7 years so i wouldn't be much help02:52
LinuxJonesWanderer_, 1 more time :)02:53
gmooreLinuxJones: just want to see if you can connect though and what error you get if any so i can tell if its me or him02:53
Wanderer_My Problem?02:53
LinuxJonesWanderer_, yes02:53
dimethylbt, i keep hitting accept but its not working02:53
LinuxJonesgmoore, It's probably you02:53
LinuxJonesgmoore, can you connect to it yourself ?02:53
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gmooreboth localhost (on the ubuntu machine) and network (winxp machine) connect fine02:54
BTJusticePM me02:54
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LinuxJonesgmoore, ok I will try02:54
gmoorealso connecting to my external ip address through the xp machine works as well02:54
LinuxJonesgmoore, are you behind a firewall ?02:54
gmooreyes and the ports are forwarded02:54
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TheGnomekemik, didnt work02:55
kemikTheGnome:  what does "hdparm -d /dev/hda" say ?02:55
LinuxJonesgmoore, 1 sec02:55
TheGnome/dev/hda:02:55
TheGnome using_dma    =  0 (off)02:55
kemikTheGnome:  do you have an AMD ?02:56
kemikTheGnome:  there's alot of stuff about your problem in http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30949.html02:56
LinuxJonesgmoore, I logged in02:56
jedixanyone use transgaming?02:57
kemikTheGnome:  and this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=93238#post9323802:57
LinuxJonesgmoore, it's veryyyyy slow02:57
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gmooredid it work at all?02:58
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dimethyldoes anyone know what package libz is in?02:58
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LinuxJonesgmoore, why do you have a .nl ftp site if you have a .ca ip address ?02:59
gmoore.nu, free dns forwarding02:59
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cyphasehow could i find all the symbolic links on my hard drive?02:59
cyphasewould i have to create a custom program?02:59
dabarI just wanted to point out a cindy crawford smiley I just came up with...altho, I am sure it was done before....     :-./   :-.)03:00
zerboxxHow do I install a .deb file?03:00
gmooredpkg -i filename.deb03:00
kemik!dpkg03:00
uboturumour has it, dpkg is the Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb03:00
dabarzerboxx: cant you install from repositories?03:00
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zerboxxdabar: I should :)03:01
zerboxxdabar: I'm looking for a python file which should be with bitorrent, but it's not03:01
dabarnoone thinks the cindy crawford smileys are funny, or are those common practice?03:01
cute_bettongis there a why to check the integrety  of the ubuntu installed os?03:01
dabarzerboxx: used synaptics search?03:01
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zerboxxdabar: yup..pretty sure anyways03:01
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LinuxJonesgmoore, have you checked your directory/fiel permissions on your ftp folder ?03:01
Wanderer_I get to the screen where you press ENTER to run the default setup. I do so, and the installer displays stuff informing me that it's decompressing this and that. It then displays a message having something to do with the kernel (I don't know for sure the specific contense of the message due to the fact it dissappears approx. 1.5 seconds after it is displayed). The computer then reboots,...03:02
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Wanderer_...rereads the cd, and then plops me down in front of the beginning screen again! It repeats this process ad infintium, until I get too disgusted and eject it from the drive, at which time I reboot and load up Windows.03:02
gmooreyes because i can connect to both the internal network address from the router and the same address i gave you, and both work03:02
TheGnomekemik, found out03:02
dabarI cant believe noone likes the Cindy Crwaford smileys...03:02
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zerboxxdabar: http://www.torrentflux.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10 I'm on step 4 :)03:02
kemikTheGnome:  good =)03:02
TheGnomekemik, was a problem in my etc/modules03:02
TheGnomekemik, thanks for the links03:02
cute_bettongso anyone know the answer to my question?03:03
kemikTheGnome:  np.. now it's time to sleep03:03
Wanderer_Linux?03:03
Wanderer_Linux Jones?03:03
sambagirlcube_bettong, if it boots up and you can login i would say it works :)03:04
Wanderer_Mr. Jones?03:04
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BTJusticeI went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930703:05
tristanmikeWanderer_, just wait a sec, he might be reading something03:05
letschatthi guys. can someone personal message me - i am a ubuntu newbie and need some help in compiling a driver03:05
LinuxJonesWanderer_, have you tried to look at your cdrom to see if it's got a scratch on it or maybe the cd is burned incorrectly (there were errors)03:05
darkheartletschatt Driver for what?03:05
letschatti keep getting stdlib.h no such file or directory03:05
letschatti have cpp and gcc03:05
letschattfor my wireless network card03:05
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letschatta friend of mine got it working on kubuntu03:06
kemikletschatt is lucky this isnt #debian.. irc'ing as root is forbidden there.. :)03:06
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Wanderer_It was not burned got it from a friend, who got it through the mail from Canonical.03:06
ianhow do i restart my gnome GUI?03:06
kemikletschatt:  get "build-essential"03:06
ianhow do i restart my gnome GUI? or refresh it?03:06
darkheartYeah root is bad =P03:06
letschattyeah i know the rules guys03:06
LinuxJonesWanderer_, were you ever messing about with your systems bios ?03:06
letschattnot a linux newbie but i got soo sick and tired of sudo honestly speaking03:06
letschattis that a package build-essential?03:07
Wanderer_Nope.03:07
darkheartian If you hit ctrl+alt+backspace it will shut down your X server, but beware, it will close everything.03:07
kemikletschatt:  apt-get that, yes03:07
LinuxJonesWanderer_, have you ever looked around in there /03:07
kemiki've learned to live with sudo actually03:07
kemik:)03:07
iandarkheart: how ill i go back in GUI?03:07
darkheartletschatt Why do you have to IRC with root permissions?03:07
cute_bettongwhat is a bogofilter file?03:07
darkheartian If you are running GDM it will automatically start back up. If not, just type 'startx' at the prompt.03:08
letschatti don't have to but i see right now i was doing a sh*tload of modprobing and makes and stuff03:08
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alecian: to restart X, hit ctrl-alt-backspace03:08
Wanderer_Yeah, but I was afraid to touch anything.03:08
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letschattand i got sick and tired of not having root to do all this03:08
gmooreLinuxJones i figured out the problem, the machine is sending out its INTERNAL ip address instead of the external one to the client for forming a port command.03:08
darkheartletschatt i see.03:08
letschattanyway that's not what i am here to debate03:08
ianok...thanks..03:08
LinuxJonesgmoore, ohh so it's working now ?03:08
OwnageLinuxGuys do you know how to use the direct connect in gaim or if there is a direct connect in gaim03:08
letschattstarting off 1. can someone give me ONE friggin source that actually works? i can't find any package at all03:08
letschatti can't find build-essentials no candidate03:09
gmooreLinuxJones: no not yet but i know that's the problem now. i need to convince my ubuntu machine to send titaniumone.mine.nu or my external ip instead of 192.168.0.1203:09
OwnageLinuxGuys do you know how to use the direct connect in gaim or if there is a direct connect in gaim03:09
apokryphosletschatt: it's build-essential03:09
darkheartOwnageLinux Just right click on a contact's name and choose "Direct IM"03:09
tristanmikeWanderer_ are you set to boot from cd?03:09
apokryphos!info build-essential03:09
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB03:09
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LinuxJonesgmoore, that's a good start :003:09
apokryphosletschatt: and it's in main03:09
OwnageLinuxdarkheart there is no direct im option03:09
gmooreLinuxJones: do you think editing /etc/hosts would do?03:09
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OwnageLinuxwait nvm dark.... thnx03:10
letschattsorry that's what i used build-essential03:10
OwnageLinuxi found it03:10
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Wanderer_I didn't have to "set" it to anything. It just automatically read the cd on boot up and loaded the begining.03:10
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apokryphosletschatt: and what's the error?03:10
kemikletschatt:  then your sources.list is fubar03:10
hardw1rewhats the reconfigure command again so then i can reconfigure nvidia when i change my kernel?03:10
LinuxJonesgmoore, honestly I have had too many beer :)03:10
kemik!sources.list03:10
gmoore:)03:10
ubotukemik: No idea03:10
kemik!sources03:10
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:10
tristanmikeWanderer_ that could be your problem, in the BIOS, it needs to be set to boot from CD03:10
hardw1re!reconfigure03:10
ubotuhardw1re: Syntax error in line 103:10
letschattE: Package build-essential has no installation candidate03:10
hardw1re:o03:11
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apokryphosletschatt: are you on hoary?03:11
tristanmikeLinuxJones, is that possible?03:11
darkheart!tell letschatt about repositories03:11
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benplautThe page you thought Ben had in store,03:11
benplautIt never was, or is no more-03:11
benplautQuoth the server, 404!03:11
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LinuxJonesgmoore, so your behind a router ?03:11
Wanderer_OK...Let me try that right quick...03:11
benplautthat's what my site was needing :P03:11
apokryphosletschatt: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list03:11
darkheartletschatt Try installing the repos from what ubotu sent you.03:11
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letschattapork it's big i do'nt wanna spam03:11
BTJusticeI went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930703:11
apokryphosletschatt: hence I said use pastebin :)03:11
apokryphos!paste03:12
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:12
regeyameh.03:12
LinuxJonestristanmike, yeah maybe03:12
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ChurcH_of_FoamYis it really bad to get errors in the final stages of setup just before ubuntu boots for the first time?03:12
glickhey i have a single server with 1gig ram and an 800mhz cpu03:12
ChurcH_of_FoamYwhen it's downloading things03:12
jtan325more than likely, yes03:12
glickis it ok to put more then one services per machine/03:13
ChurcH_of_FoamY>.<03:13
glick?03:13
glickgenerally?03:13
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ChurcH_of_FoamYsomething about an early file termination03:13
darkheartglick More than one service?03:13
ChurcH_of_FoamYduring the download procces just before ubuntu boots for the first time03:13
glickdarkheart, yeah running more than one server03:13
fissyare you running the pentagon or your personal mail server?03:13
ubercompusergood html editor?03:14
darkheartglick What kind of server?03:14
glicklike cvs, web, ssh, etc03:14
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letschatti've never used x-chat pokry i've been using linux on and off for 3 years this is my first time full time i also run win 200003:14
LinuxJonestristanmike, I think it's more like a whacky setting in the bios, I did an install for my nephew and a bios reset was all that was needed to get a usb mouse working (I dunno what he did but turned off support I guess )03:14
glickall in one03:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYis there a way to make ubuntu check it's self?03:14
darkheartglick No, that's what Linux is made for =) Running services haha.03:14
apokryphosubercompuser: best IMO is Quanta+03:14
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benplautubercompuser, try bluefish03:14
glickdarkheart, yeah but i mean is it generally to run multiple things on one server03:14
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY, you mena to make sure integrity of it's files and whatnot ?03:14
ubercompuserall i see is just quanta not quanta+03:14
glickis it a good idea to do so?03:14
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea03:15
tristanmikeLinuxJones, my friend is haveing virtually the same problem but his screen goes to prompt after the Install Splash Screen, no reboot...I can't figure it out03:15
benplautubercompuser, or just use a regular text editor...03:15
darkheartglick Yes, it is no problem to run multiple services.03:15
ubercompuseri would liket something that is dedicate html editor03:15
ubercompuserkinda like dreamweavor03:15
ChurcH_of_FoamYLinuxJones:  yes03:15
darkheartglick Of course, you have to take into account the box you are using and how much service you are providing.03:15
jtan325ChurcH_of_FoamY, bluefish03:16
nudnickanyone looking to help a newb out who is having some hardware compatibility issues with his system?03:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYbluefish?03:16
EdddieHey guys, I just got a new HDD and I was wondering what I have to add to /etc/fstab to mount it?03:16
ChurcH_of_FoamYit's a customers computer i'm putting ubuntu on03:16
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glickdarkheart, wouldnt be much, maybe a couple of people 10 max03:16
spermiehow do i edit apt?03:16
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darkheartglick No problem at all.03:16
surfdue_is there a free graphics program03:17
surfdue_like photoshop03:17
surfdue_for linux03:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYand it's taht box that has errors03:17
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY, after a fresh install you can install a file integrity checker (aide) then it will go over your system and record md5 checksum's of all your important file that you can check later (via cron job, [mailing your the results] ) to verify your system hasn't been rooted or modified without your permission.03:17
darkheartglick What are the specs on the box?03:17
ubercompusergimp03:17
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ubercompusersurfdue_, gimp03:17
zerboxxI'm trying to install something which requires "btphptorrent.py" but I can't find it on my system, even though I have bittorrent, whats wrong???03:17
surfdue_how do i make it one window03:17
surfdue_:P03:17
ChurcH_of_FoamYLinuxJones:  ok you have my attention how to do this ^_^03:17
glickdarkheart, 1 gig of ram 850mhz cpu 150gig harddrive space across two disks,03:17
ubercompuseru cant03:17
LinuxJonestristanmike, his video driver is not set correctly03:17
ubercompuserit is designed to only work in mutiple windows. i personally like that03:18
BTJusticeI went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930703:18
darkheartglick No problem at all. Overkill in fact =P03:18
EdddieHey guys, I just got a new HDD and I was wondering what I have to add to /etc/fstab to mount it?03:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh >.< well needless to say the box is sitting next to me on my work table03:18
glickcause i have so many damn computeres i dont know what to do with, i am selling a couple03:18
ChurcH_of_FoamYand i just installed ubuntu and it does have errors03:18
glickcause im moving out of this shithole in 9 months and dont want to lug around 6 computers03:18
darkheartglick Not really overkill, but that would be perfect for everything to run smooth.03:18
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nudnickanyone looking to help a newb out who is having some hardware compatibility issues with his system?03:18
darkheartnudnick What's the issue?03:19
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glickthanks darkheart03:19
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darkheartglick Np.03:19
ChurcH_of_FoamYand for my computer what type of card should i get for a wireless router? 801.11B?03:19
nudnickdarkheart. i'm not 100% sure03:20
darkheartChurcH_of_FoamY What kind of wireless connection does your router provide? =)03:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYi want something that won't give me problems03:20
nudnickthats why i need help :o03:20
darkheartnudnick Okay, what are you trying to do, and what is happening instead?03:20
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ChurcH_of_FoamYit's a belkin wireless router with 801.11B03:20
LinuxJonesChurcH_of_FoamY, there are good tutorials on aide from google...there is nothing to it really. Update the database after a fresh install , it will spit out a database of your system. Then periodically run a comparison (via cron job) and it will mail the admin a summary of the differnences (if any). Best to search google or check the aide howto.03:20
glicki think you probably want a G wireless card03:20
glickalthough i have a B03:20
ChurcH_of_FoamYok thanc03:20
glickjust dont have the money or desire to buy a new wireless card03:21
jtan325B usually serves the purpose03:21
BTJusticeD-Link DWL-G520 is good wireless card03:21
glickget senao03:21
darkheartChurcH_of_FoamY Make sure you check your router too...See what type it uses.03:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYdoes it work out of the box?03:21
nudnickdarkheart, will you be around tomorrow? turns out its later than i thought and i need to g03:21
nudnicko03:21
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glicki have an engenious card03:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYso the card is dependant on the router type?03:21
LinuxJonestristanmike, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa as the video driver (accept defaults on everyting else) Then issue the command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart03:21
ChurcH_of_FoamYglick what kinda card you have?03:21
darkheartnudnick I may or may not (wife gets testy for some reason when I'm on the computer during the weekend =P), but I'm sure someone can help you tomorrow anyway =)03:22
BTJusticeMine did, but I had to do this... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5816803:22
Wanderer_TristanMike, It didn't work.03:22
glickChurcH_of_FoamY, senao/engenious03:22
glickChurcH_of_FoamY, netgate.net03:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYok and thats a good card? that works outta the box?03:22
ChurcH_of_FoamYwith ubuntu03:22
glickChurcH_of_FoamY, sorry netgate.com03:22
Wanderer_TristanMike?03:23
tristanmikeWanderer_, ummm, same thing/03:23
ubercompuserWOOOOT! quanta is better than when i first played around with it. any idot can figure out how to use it with ease03:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYand what should i look for on the router to help me determine what type of card to get?03:23
ChurcH_of_FoamYbesides brand03:23
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Wanderer_Google it?03:23
tristanmikeLinuxJones, is that at the prompt?03:23
ubercompuserChurcH_of_FoamY, have you thought about using something like smoothwall,ipcop or redwall???03:24
dimethylhey, i am trying to install a special package, and i get this output Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed, how can i get version 1.1.0 ???03:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't even know what those are >.<03:24
tristanmikeWanderer_, did the samething happen?03:24
Wanderer_Yes.03:24
ChurcH_of_FoamYi'm still learning linux03:24
darkheartAnyone ever have an issue w/ flash and firefox where some flash pages are half greyed out?03:24
dimethylanyone know how i can switch to the more experimental packages in my sources.list?03:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYi love it though it's a 100% better than winsux haxp03:25
tristanmikeWanderer_, and you removed the hard drive completly from start up?03:25
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darkheartdimethyl I suppose you could add the Breezy repos to your sources.list03:25
ubercompuserChurcH_of_FoamY,  those are firewalls that can be installed on a computer. if you have a spare OLD computer laying around, install it in that and it will be better than any consumer grade firewall!!!03:25
Wanderer_No, I just made it the first thing to boot from.03:25
ChurcH_of_FoamYsweet03:25
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dimethylthanks darkheart03:26
darkheartIf I was going to create a firewall out of an old computer, I think I would run pf on OpenBSD.03:26
tristanmikeLinuxJones, that command, reconfigure x-server, is that at the promt he gets?03:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYi might have a box for that but i need the router becuase of the computers on my network03:26
ubercompuserand u cant know nothing about linux and use it easily03:26
beekaycan anyone help me with my video card's 3d accel?03:26
dfeedhi all, my system seems to have become confused and is refusing to eject the cd I was playing. Any ideas how I can sort this out without rebooting?03:26
beekayeven giving a link would help03:26
darkheartdimethyl Np, but it may not be that simple..You might want to google that..Could break things if you're not careful.03:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYi not only run customers boxes when i build them i also run my own as well03:26
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ubercompuserthe computer that has in intalled would take place of a router03:26
jbulldfeed:  sudo eject /dev/yourcddrive not working?03:26
alecdfeed: when you say eject, do you mean with the gnome menu or with the physical eject button?03:26
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow does that work multiple nicks?03:27
ubercompuserall you need is a CHEAP $20 and less switch03:27
ubercompuserwhat?03:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYhow does the box act as a router does it have multiple ethernet cards or something?03:27
beekaycan someone help me get my video card's 3d acceleration working?03:27
ubercompuserno03:27
beekay:D03:27
dfeedjbull: thanks, I hadn't realised I needed to run that as root03:27
darkheartalec Wouldn't it be the same issue either way?03:27
EdddieHey guys, I just got a new HDD and I was wondering what I have to add to /etc/fstab to mount it?03:27
ubercompuserall u need it two03:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh wow03:27
darkheartbeekay What kind of card?03:27
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats cool03:27
ubercompuserone goes to the switch and one to the modem03:28
Wanderer_TristanMike?03:28
LinuxJonestristanmike, yes03:28
beekayati 960003:28
beekaymobile03:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYand this can run on my cablemodem as well?03:28
darkheartEdddie You gotta format it first.03:28
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alecdarkheart: no, because if the filesystem is mounted it probably won't let him eject with the physical button03:28
ubercompuserit should03:28
darkheart!tell beekay about ati03:28
ubercompuseras long as it has ethernet03:28
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tristanmikeWanderer_, you removed the hard drive completely from the startup options?03:28
darkheartbeekay Read the guide that ubotu sent you03:28
ubuntuuserhi is anyone familiar with installing apache on ubuntu?03:28
ubercompuserdoes it?03:28
beekaythanks03:28
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats awsome although i just bought this router brand new in the box for 10.00 and 5.00 s&h03:29
darkheartalec I suppose you're right if he manually mounted it himself.03:29
Wanderer_TristanMike: No, I just made cd drive the first thing to boot from.03:29
ubercompuserok.... what type03:29
ChurcH_of_FoamYand the guy on ebay has like 4 of them left03:29
EdddieI did darkheart but I need to add it to /etc/fstab03:29
ubercompuser( i have a backup router if ipcop goes down)03:29
ubercompuserlink?03:29
BTJusticeI went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930703:30
darkheartEdddie What fs did you format it on?03:30
darkheartEdddie as*03:30
Wanderer_TristanMike?03:30
tristanmikeWanderer_, take it out all together, and if it works, when you reboot, go back into the BIOS and put it back to the original configuration03:30
ChurcH_of_FoamYi can do better than that i can give you his email addy cause he told me if i wanted more he'd sell them off of ebay ^_^03:30
Wanderer_OK. I'll give it a try.03:30
tristanmikeI gotta step out for a minute03:31
dfeedalec, darkheart: essentially, what happened was that I had one cd playing, which got mounted at some point. changed it to another with no problems, then when I tried to eject that one (in gnome and through the eject command) it wouldn't let me. running eject through sudo worked though.03:31
ubercompuseri dont want one, i just want to see what u bought03:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh ok03:31
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ChurcH_of_FoamYhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:31&Item=580013934003:31
darkheartdfeed You don't mount audio CDs, btw.03:31
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o stupid link is way big >.<03:31
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ChurcH_of_FoamYithink it's a nice router (crosses fingers)03:31
dfeeddarkheart: I didn't mean to. Misclicked on the open command in gnome, which seemed to mount it.03:32
ubercompuserNONONONO ChurcH_of_FoamY  throw it OUT the window NOW03:32
darkheartdfeed I see...Well, just for future reference anyway =) It won't play if you mount it.03:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o why?03:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYis it no good?03:32
ubercompuseri had to rma one and it was broken badily and the replacement had the same problem03:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYO_o03:32
ChurcH_of_FoamYoh shit03:32
Edddiedarkheart: I just want it to work, I think it's fat32 right now, I'll change it later but can I keep it dynamic?03:33
ubercompuseri could write a book about my expirence with it03:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYi don't think the guy has a refund policy >.<03:33
ChurcH_of_FoamYi thought belkin was a good brand?03:33
darkheartEdddie Dynamic? Not sure what you mean. Do you know which device it is? (/dev/something)03:33
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hardw1re@reconfigure03:34
hardw1re!reconfigure03:34
ubotuI don't know, hardw1re03:34
hardw1rehmm03:34
hardw1rewhats the pkg reconfigure command?03:34
Edddieyes it's /dev/hdb03:34
hardw1re!pkg03:34
ubotuhardw1re: I don't know03:34
darkhearthardw1re dpkg-reconfigure03:34
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kemikNFS uses UDP by default?03:34
ChurcH_of_FoamYso that routers pritty much crap? dam it the only thing i could afford >.<03:34
hardw1reso if i change kernel i need to do dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel ?03:34
hardw1relol03:35
hardw1rebelkin?!03:35
hardw1reyou bought a belkin product...03:35
darkhearthardw1re Err..that I'm not sure of. But sounds close to the mark. gonna have to reconfigure something =)03:35
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hardw1reyeah03:35
gmooreanyone familiar with proftpd+a router? i'm still trying to get it to work. i have the server set to allowforeignaddresses, masqueradeaddress to my ip, and bind to my ip. all needed ports are forwarded, but people who try to connect still get error 425 could not build data connection. what the hell :(03:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYyea cause i can't afford to get a better one and i diden't know >.<03:35
dubniumi have a few shitty belkin peripreals03:35
ChurcH_of_FoamYright now i have a d-link di-604 router03:36
ubercompuserit has locked up many of times, it has make computers dissapear on the network,  wont give me a ip address some times, it would have WEAK  attennas, signal would fluxiuate from high to drop, running as a AP is useless , it is hard to change back to factory settings and most of the times is would not allow for me to login like it would say there was a duplicate admin or wrong password. i would sometimes set the password as 1 and i03:36
ubercompuserwould log back on and it would forget that password.03:36
svizzeroanyone knows how to solve the following eclipse/sun jdk error:03:36
svizzeroActivation.main: warning: sun.rmi.activation.execPolicy system03:36
svizzeroproperty unspecified and no ExecPermissions/ExecOptionPermissions03:36
svizzerogranted; subsequent activation attempts may fail due to unsuccessful03:36
svizzeroExecPermission/ExecOptionPermission permission checks. For03:36
darkheartgmoore Honestly, you'd be better asking that in #proftpd03:36
svizzerodocumentation on how to configure rmid security, refer to: ?03:36
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gmooredarkheart: noone is there :)03:36
ubercompusersry bouth the long post03:36
darkheartsvizzero Don't paste in the channel03:36
darkheartgmoore Oh =)03:36
hardw1rewe're using a BT Voyager 240 Router/Modem03:36
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svizzerosry03:36
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biscuit_I finally got my internal audio card to work!03:37
darkheartsvizzero Np, next time use #flood or pastebin03:37
svizzerook03:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamYman i can't beleve this whats so bad about belkin i got it becuase the advertisement said it was linux compatable03:37
hardw1rebbiab03:37
dubniumanyone know much about bluez (bluetooth) packages? theres an install conflict with bluez-sdp and bluez-utils03:37
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ubercompuserChurcH_of_FoamY, i have a di-604 as a backup under my bed. it has been flawless. HIGHLY recommended03:37
darkheartgmoore Which ports are you using?03:37
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ChurcH_of_FoamY>.< the port forwarding is shot on it03:37
ChurcH_of_FoamYthats why i'm getting a new one03:38
gmooredarkheart 4096 and it's forwarded by my router03:38
ubercompuseron it di?03:38
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biscuit_Does anyone use Linuxant?03:38
darkheartgmoore and you're not running a firewall on your box correct?03:38
ubercompuserhave u set the box to factory defaults?03:38
dfeedChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm still bitter at belkin from having to compile random drivers to get my wireless card working.03:38
gmooredarkheart: fresh ubuntu install so i don't think so03:38
ChurcH_of_FoamYdo you have to use there cards with the router or can i mix and match?03:39
ubercompusermix and match03:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYlike the router and oh say a d-link wireless card03:39
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ChurcH_of_FoamYok cool03:39
gmooredarkheart: im on a network and this computer (winxp) can connect to the ubuntu ftp server both internally (192.168.x.x) and externally (24.x.x.x) so the server works... it's just some port stupidity.03:39
ubercompuserwhen i did have a wireless network i have two linksys cards.03:39
svizzeroe : Eclipse project http://www.eclipse.org - latest stable release: 3.1.0; latest development release: 3.2 M103:39
svizzero* Argomento per #eclipse scelto da vektor il Sun Aug 14 18:06:54 200503:39
svizzerosvizzero svizzero anyone knows how to solve the following eclipse/sun jdk error:  Activation.main: warning: sun.rmi.activation.execPolicy system property unspecified...?03:39
ChurcH_of_FoamYnice03:39
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beekaythank you very much for that ati fix03:40
ubercompuseri trust wired networks over wireless03:40
beekayhow come so many people complain about it if its that easy to fix03:40
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darkheartgmoore Okay, this is what I get: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection03:40
ubercompuserbut u cant give the belkin a go if u dare?03:40
gmooredarkheart are you sure you used the right port? its not running on 2103:41
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darkheartbeekay You got it working? =) that's good. People have different setups and get different problems.03:41
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darkheartgmoore LoL sorry, my mistake.03:41
beekayah03:41
biscuit__Does anyone use Linuxant?03:41
beekayyes it was so simple03:41
beekaythank you03:41
beekaythat was great03:41
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reikianyone else have Spamassassin working with Evolution? It's kinda slow. Wondering if anyone's found a way to speed it up.03:42
darkheartbeekay Glad you got it working.03:42
Wanderer_It still didn't work, TristanMike.03:42
ubercompuseri swore off belkin network products FOREVER, but there other products are great03:42
darkheartreiki SpamAssassin can take a bit of resource...Do you know how it is called?03:42
Ice9alright, who can help me with my ati radeon 9250 problem? I've tried just about everything to get 3d acceleration working03:42
dubniumi only bought belkin stuff cause it was cheap... you get what u pay for03:42
reikidarkheart: : I know how *I'm* calling it. Not sure I understand your question03:42
ubercompuseryep03:43
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darkheartreiki How are you calling it then?03:43
biscuit__Do USB modems work well with linux?03:43
darkheartgmoore I'm getting that build data connection error.03:43
ubercompuseri bought 50ft of belkin ehternet cable and it couldnt be better. but wireless is a different subject03:43
gmooredarkheart:       horror :(03:43
ubercompuseruse ethernet if you can03:43
reikidarkheart: I'm piping incoming messages (using a filter in Evolution) through /usr/bin/spamassassin -P -e --local03:43
Wanderer_TristanMike?03:44
ChurcH_of_FoamYwell i found a really good review website for this router and i'm reading it now03:44
darkheartgmoore Hmm...I recall ftp requiring another 'data' port...I think that's what's being blocked. Typically you connect on 21 and the data connection is on 2203:45
ubercompuserwell like i said u can give it a spin and see how it works for you.03:45
gmooreoh god i just checked castaglia's guide03:45
Wanderer_tristanmike?03:45
gmooreit seems i've done everything right except this step:03:45
gmoore"However, one big problem still exists. The passive FTP connections will use ports from 1024 and up, which means that you must forward all ports 1024-65535 from the NAT to the FTP server! "03:45
gmoorethat would probably be the cause of my problems. :O03:45
darkheartgmoore LoL...Don't use PASV then, use PORT>03:45
darkheartreiki By slow...how slow is that?03:46
darkheartreiki Or..how slow is slow?03:46
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biscuit__56k is just a tiny bit slow (Being sarcastic)03:46
darkheartreiki Are you attached to Evolution?03:46
reikidarkheart: takes about 2 or 3 seconds per email when I hit my pop server03:46
gutois there any guy here that has a v2311us laptop?03:47
darkheartreiki That sounds right, depending on how SpamAssassin is check it for spam. Are you using network tests?03:47
gmooreoh god, darkheart i think i may have fixed it. can you try reconnecting?03:47
reikidarkheart: define "attached" to Evolution please03:47
biscuit__guto: Why do you ask03:47
darkheartgmoore Sure thing.03:47
reikidarkheart: it didn't seem to make a difference adding the --local parm. I thought that would tell it to stay local and not go network03:47
gutoi am trying to get my broadcom wireless card working03:47
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darkheartgmoore I get a "500 Illegal PORT command, ftp: bind: Address already in use", but it's a step forward =) different error.03:48
reikidarkheart: so I'm thinking it's that slow just using --local which it's SUPPOSED to do by default if available03:48
gmooredarkheart: okay i think i just fixed that as well :) one more reconnec03:48
gutobiscuit_, do you have one?03:48
darkheartreiki No, that's not the correct switch to disable network tests, I don't think.03:49
Wanderer_TRISTAN MIKE!03:49
reikidarkheart: but at least it's working... which seems to be a giant step forward. And very simple to implement03:49
feleshhi03:49
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darkheartgmoore LoL, that actually put it back to step 1, error 42503:49
gmooreargh03:49
gmooretry pasv?03:49
feleshi have read in the list of ubuntu that breezy is stable? is true? why in the official web not say nothing03:49
darkheartgmoore Keep trying, you are getting there.03:49
yathfelesh: I had troubles installing breezy.03:50
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reiki-L, --local                       Local tests only (no online tests)03:50
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feleshyath, what problems?03:50
yathfelesh: it's possible that it will work, but it isn't as stable as 5.04 by any means03:50
reiki^^^ from the man pages for spamassassin03:50
darkheartgmoore Btw, try googling for that error and seeing what other people have to say. Might offer some valuable insight.03:50
gmooredarkheart: i've tried, most of the fixes i've tried haven't done anything ;(03:50
Wanderer_Does anyone know where Mike went?03:51
yathfelesh: my particular problem was that I have 2 network adapters on this system, and only one would work, and I chose that one, and then breezy decided to swap them, and so tried to use the inoperative one and couldn't finish.03:51
feleshyath, but is a release candidate or a finished version?03:51
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reikidarkheart: so the parms are ... -P (pipe output rather than deliver it), -e (throw an error), and --local (don't do network tests)03:52
yathfelesh: I don't think that breezy has either of those things. Just test releases.03:52
reikidarkheart:  or at least that's my understanding thus far03:52
yathfelesh: This was with Colony 3.03:52
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darkheartreiki Yeah, that should be correct then...But you might try running spamd and then calling spamc with those switches.03:52
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feleshyath, and why is named colony 3 if is named breezy?03:53
Wanderer_I repeat, does anyone know where Tristan Mike went?03:53
yathfelesh: I don't know, maybe normal folks would call it "alpha 3" :)03:53
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feleshyath, hahaha03:53
reikidarkheart: ok... run spamd by enabling spamassassin start on boot?  and then replace spamc instead of /usr/bin/spamassassin ?03:53
darkheartgmoore Let's start from an easier step, just set the ftp server up for default ports and see if we can connect from there.03:53
pobstilhow can I set up a user, that can _only_ access his home folder, and nothing else?03:53
feleshshazan25, has you read this? breezy cause problems yet :)03:54
darkheartreiki Well, don't load it at boot yet, just try running spamd, then using spamc instead of spamassassin03:54
gmooredarkheart: okay, i got PASV working. i just don't think i'll get port working :(03:54
reikidarkheart: ok... reading man pages for spamc to get parms right...03:55
darkheartgmoore Still getting 425 error.03:55
gmooredarkheart: port or pasv?03:55
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darkheartgmoore Err..looked like port actually03:55
gmoorepasv SHOULD work now03:55
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darkheartgmoore Alright, it works on pasv.03:56
gmooreokay, at least i have a functioning ftp for now :)03:56
darkheartgmoore =)03:56
gmoorecould you also try logging in using other methods besides ftp to make sure that user is secure? im new to both linux and ubuntu and probably shouldnt be trying this at all :)03:57
kazdoes anyone know how to make a downloaded picture file a background file for enlightenment 1703:57
benplauthello03:57
benplaut?03:57
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boxerboyhi everyone i hear that theres a ubuntu  version 6 comming out is that breezy or is that ubuntu?03:57
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LinuxJonesboxerboy, breezy is in october03:57
pobstilhow can I set up a user, that can _only_ access his home folder, and nothing else?03:58
darkheartreiki Btw, I asked you earlier if you were stuck on Evolution because the typical way to use spamassassin is to use an MTA that has a spamassassin filter plugged in. It is more difficult to set up though, and mail will be delivered locally on your system after fetching it from a remote host.03:58
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darkheartpobstil Why would you want to do that?03:58
kazdoes anyone here use enlightenment inside ubuntu03:58
darkheartkaz e16 or 17?03:58
kaz1703:58
darkheartkaz I have used it before.03:58
reikidarkheart: right now I'm actually shooting for simplicity. Most desktop users won't set up an MTA or know how.03:58
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pobstilso I can have my mates connect to my ubnutu server and so I can host their website. But I don't want them to access anything else other than whats theres03:59
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gmooredarkheart: can you try port again? :) last time hopefully (even if it doesnt work ill stop bugging you ;)     )03:59
kazok I need to know how to take a picture I downloaded and make it my background.  I guess things don't work the same in 1703:59
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darkheartreiki Okay, then you might have to live with that bit of slowness...See, the thing is, I *think* the spamassassin file itself is a perl script (you can check), and hence it's a bit slower to run. The spamd and spamc binaries are compiled C.04:00
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pobstildarkheart: so I can have my mates connect to my ubnutu server and so I can host their website. But I don't want them to access anything else other than whats theres04:00
darkheartkaz No, things are completely different than previous versions. You really need to read to use e17 in its current state. What you need, you can find at http://get-e.org/04:00
boxerboyi saw a site of desktop themes but they are pics with whoever took the screen shot had other things on it so i guess i leave xfce alone?04:01
kazthank you.....I have it all almost setup completely  I just really like my own backdrops04:01
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GrYpHoNI need some advice.  I am majorly new ti linux.   I have my broadcomm wireless found and loaded the driver using ndiswrapper, but it dosent show in the network area as a network device.  ANy input would be appreciated.  Im LOST!  lol04:01
darkheartpobstil Well, I know what you are thinking, but that kind of undermines a Linux system. Usually people aren't locked into a directory (chroot), because they can't really do any damage if the system has proper permissions.04:02
reikidarkheart: using sudo /usr/bin/spamc -c -e and it's about 5 to 7 seconds per email. This wouldn't b good for anyone who pulls 100 email in a shot04:02
jtan325Gryphon, what does "iwconfig" show04:02
gmoorea04:02
GrYpHoNOnly my loopback04:02
darkheartreiki There's no switch to use only local tests?04:02
reikidarkheart: not for spamc that I can find04:02
LinuxJonesGrYpHoN, I wish I could help but I don't have a wireless card...have you searched the wiki page there is a howto for wireless users04:03
bernyHello is true the lauch of the New Ubuntu 5.10 stable version?04:03
pobstildarkheart, but it would stop my mates from looking at what is in all the other directories, even though they wouldn't. is it possible though?04:03
darkheartgmoore Trying port, sorry for the delay04:03
GrYpHoNI did not know... Thanks mate.  I will check it out04:03
reikidarkheart: I'm going to try adding the --local switch to spamc and see if it has an effect04:03
reikicourse now I'll have to wait for more mail :)04:04
darkheartpobstil It is possible, I believe you are looking to chroot your users. I can't help you specifically, though since I don't know myself...Try googling 'chrooting shell users' or something like that.04:04
darkheartgmoore Still 425 for port04:04
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pobstildarkheard, ok thanks04:04
gmooredarkheart: okay, ill just leave it for tonight i guess. thanks for your help!04:04
LinuxJonesGrYpHoN, GL and don't give up ... come back tomorrow if you need help :)04:04
darkheartreiki Okay. If that doesn't help, you may just be SOL for spamassassin. I'm a network engineer and I use it at work to filter out spam in a corporate environment, but on dedicated mail gateways.04:05
reikidarkheart: and an interesting observation... it appears that Evolution runs its junk filter BEFORE processing other filters. So I get messages in Junk folder AND SPam folder04:05
darkheartgmoore =) Okay, hope you get it working the way you want.04:05
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Ice9alright, who can help me with my ati radeon 9250 problem? I've tried just about everything to get 3d acceleration working04:06
darkheartreiki You seem like a fellow that does read up on things, so I'm just asking this just in case, but have you tried googling about spamassassin/evolution/slow filtering?04:06
feleshOne question, the Colony 3 is the breezy stable??? or the development brach of Breezy????04:07
reikidarkheart: yeah and everyone that gets this working seems to have the same problem and I've not found a solution04:07
reikidarkheart: but they were using a fetchmail procmail setup. I thought this might be faster because it was simpler. :)04:07
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darkheartreiki Wow, that should actually be faster...I mean, the delay will be there but if you have an automated fetchmail to get your mail then procmail to filter it, it should be ready and waiting for you in general.04:08
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D1how do I install NetworkManager on Breezy (Colony3 live cd)?04:09
reikidarkheart: yeah, but that goes against the "simplicity" aspect. I like Ubuntu and what it's offering. The idea of a simple-to-install, non-MS desktop is exciting to me. HAving to make users set up an MTA or fetchmail procmail is too complicated04:09
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jorgpanyone get transcode w/ breezy installed?04:11
dubniumtherees gones my damn belkin dropping my connection... twice today04:11
darkheartreiki Right, I understand what you meant earlier and like I said, you may just be stuck with that delay if you can't find a different method to filter spam.04:11
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QMarioHello bob2! :)04:11
tristanmikeLinuxJones, that didn't work, nothing changed, still loads and goes through a bunch of lines of text to fast to see with the last line being "PS/2 mouse device common for all mice"04:13
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tristanmikeLinuxJones, the Live CD does the same thing for him too04:13
MrPocketswhats the deal i need to play some games in Ubuntu?04:14
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pmazeranyone know of a way to stream music from a mac with itunes through a linux box and out speakers?04:16
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ORiONdaapclient?04:16
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ORiONpmazer: I think vlc supports daap04:17
glickMrPockets, thre are generally crappy games for linux04:17
MrPocketsi have a duel boot going, so im not worried about it, but i know Enemy Teratory has linux versions04:18
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glicki dont miss the games that much04:18
glicksince i mainly use my computer for work and such04:18
glicklistening to music04:18
glickwatchin movies04:18
MrPocketsyeah, im on this damn box 23/704:19
pmazerwhat's the deb package called for daap?04:19
nickrud frozen bubble is nice for stress relief04:19
DonLI downloaded a demo of UT2004 and I can't get too far in that, so I'm happy04:19
ORiONtheres always americas army too04:19
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MrPocketsstill clueless on the Bittorrent too, so i use windows to DL my media04:19
lirazMy OO2 fonts are ultra-ugly, OO2 seems to have set up  it's own font rendering thing... all the same fonts like Arial are perfect in the original OpenOffice but in the second one I cant get it the same.04:19
MrPocketsspeaking of, do you know what the plug in is that allows XMMS to play vids?04:20
lirazAny ideas why?.. I am forced to use OO2 for compatiblity reasons with a foreign language04:20
oceandeadbittorrent is just as easy on ubuntu as it is windoze04:20
MrPocketsi dont use bittorrent in windows :-p04:20
ORiONMrPockets: http://thegraveyard.org/xmmplayer.php04:20
oceandeadwell theres lame, amule etc etc for p2p04:20
MrPocketsthanks04:21
Ice9alright, who can help me with my ati radeon 9250 problem? I've tried just about everything to get 3d acceleration working04:21
DonLIce9, sorry. I use NVidia04:21
glicki wonder what kina OS and hardware God runs to manage creation04:21
alxarchme too on a x600 mobility04:21
nickrud6502, most likely\04:21
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MrPocketsand last, do you know where i can download custom Icons,  not themes but just single icons?04:22
pmazerORiON, how do i go about setting this up?04:22
ORiONMrPockets: might be something a bit more up to date here: http://www.xmms.org/plugins.php?category=input04:22
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MrPocketsi got the first one and deleted it already,  no idea how to install it04:23
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D1how can I get networkmanager on breezy? Can anyone help me?04:23
ORiONpmazer: setting what up?04:23
D1its not in synaptic04:23
pmazerORiON, daap04:23
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indiehow can I download wine from synaptic, the site doesn't explain it all to well.04:24
lirazWelll does anyone know what to do about the Openoffice 2 fonts?04:25
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oceandeadupgrading to breezy is an interesting experience04:25
ORiONpmazer: I thought you were streaming FROM a mac TO linux, there shouldn't be much setup in linux as long as you've got dnssd setup04:26
jmn_ubuntuguys im a bit of a noob im trying to use cfdisk on unbuntu live and i fatal error cannot open disk drive04:26
jmn_ubuntucan someone help04:26
nickrudare we doing breezy questions now? If so, anyone got a link to start working with beagle?04:26
ORiONaka zeroconf04:26
tristanmikeLinuxJones, excuse me, are you still around?04:27
abysslo exists anyway to hear internet radios?04:27
oceandeaddid you unmount the drive04:27
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oceandeadi thought zerconf wasnt gonna be ready for a while04:27
jmn_ubuntuwell as far as i can see its not mounted @ all theres no hdd icon on the desktop or in the system menu04:28
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QMarioHello thoreauputic! :)04:29
oceandeadim definitely gonna have to do a fresh install of breezy ... cant see any text in firefox04:29
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thoreauputicQMario: hi04:30
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benjamin1254hey guys sup im havin issues with mozilla firefox it doesent wana start04:31
vitriolanybody know a fix for the breezy 2.6.12 kernel saying that the / partition doesn't exist?04:31
QMario!Botsnack04:31
ubotuthanks qmario :)04:31
pobstilanyone know how to chroot a user?04:31
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vitriolpobstil: as that user do 'chroot /path/to/place/you/want/to/chroot /bin/bash'04:32
vitrioli think04:32
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pobstilok I'll try that04:33
MrCrouppobstil: do you mean put the user in a chrooted jail on login ?04:33
pobstilyup04:33
vitriolbenjamin1254: i would answer you if i knew...did you try ps x | grep firefox then kill the pid if running?04:33
MrCroupthen its a bit more complicated that just using the chroot command04:33
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benplautbenjamin1254, "sudo killall firefox-bin", then try again04:33
FR500hello04:33
vitriolbenjamin1254: thats a long shot that i don't know if it'll help04:33
jmn_ubuntushould i need any extra boot parameters to have unbuntu mount my hdd it doesnt seem to want to04:33
pobstilI thought so, the chroot command doesn't work as the user I want to chroot..04:34
benjamin1254nope i just start on my user account start it up then it blanks out and doesent show up ... plz speek in newbish words cuz i dident understand a word of what u asked04:34
vitriolso...anybody know what the deal is with the breezy 2.6.12 kernel not recognizing the root partition??04:34
vitriolbenjamin1254: sorry :)04:34
FR500i have a cell phone, from the company, it's a crappy kyocera rave, it has this USB cable that allows me to surf internet from the pc, but i don't know how to make it work in linux04:34
MrCrouppobstil: there should be a chroot jail howto and some scripts to assist setting oneup04:34
FR500any idear?04:34
vitriolbenjamin1254: here's another idea: you can delete your firefox profile04:34
MrCrouppobstil: I just don't have them handy04:34
vitriolbenjamin1254: to do that, on a command prompt do 'rm -rf .firefox*'04:34
pobstildo you think you could find them for me? or point me where to look?04:35
vitrioli think it's .firefox04:35
flughor .mozilla-firefox04:35
vitriolif not that, it will be something like .mozilla04:35
vitriolyeah04:35
MrCrouppobstil: google?04:35
FR500benjamin1254: first try killall firefox-bin04:35
MrCrouppobstil: verily google is your friend04:35
vitriolbenjamin1254: your firefox profile could have somehow got garbled04:35
pobstilhaha true that04:35
QMarioAre you guys already using Breezy Ubuntu?04:35
ORiONQMario: I am04:35
vitriolQMario: i'm trying to04:35
vitriolcan't get the kernel to see my root fs :(04:36
flughI'm waiting for Sleezy04:36
glickUbuntu should claim on its website that its the only linux distro officially supported by Jesus himself! a lot more people would start using it04:36
vitriolso have to use 2.6.1104:36
QMarioORiON, where can I see screenshots of Breezy?04:36
glickflugh, that would be a great name04:36
ORiONQMario: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/04:36
glickwhats this naming after animals crap thats boring04:36
ORiONQMario: that's all it is, gnome 2.1204:36
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glickubuntu sleezy slut04:36
glickthat would be hot04:37
glickhehe04:37
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.04:37
flughglick: i'd follow up with a super-secure version code-named 'whore'04:37
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glickheh04:37
flughyou know, just cause it'd be 1337 ;)04:37
vitrioli would search the forums over my problem if i could get x working04:37
ORiONQMario: there have been a few threads withSSs in the forums too04:37
vitrioli was counting on that kernel upgrade though04:37
[[c0rrupt] ] the bees are buzzing in the tree to make some honey just for me.04:37
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EnsignRedshirtHas anyone used a program like photopc to talk to a digital camera with a USB interface?04:38
ORiONvitriol: lynx is your friend when things go wrong04:38
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flughvitriol: lynx, or telnet google.com:80 ;)04:38
EnsignRedshirtI get an error "Cannot claim the USB device"04:39
ksmurfIs anyone that is use breezy have the nvidia drivers working?  I need help04:39
ORiONksmurf: yeah, what's wrong?04:39
vitriollol04:39
vitrioltrue i should've thought of that04:39
ksmurfORioN I can't get them working04:39
ORiONvitriol: by the way, are your drivers ok ? :P04:40
benjamin1254should i just kill firefox an reinstall it?04:40
glickflugh, what about the shaved beaver release04:40
ORiONksmurf: that doesn't help much, what kind of errors is X spitting uot?04:40
ORiONout*04:40
flughglick: delayed due to the olsen twins growing up too fast04:40
glickheh,04:41
[[c0rrupt] ] Lol04:41
ksmurfORioN I just clean installed Colony3 of breezy because my xorg had a FATAL on the nvidia Driver04:41
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glickgod i hate the olsen twins, their fugly trolls their not hot at all i dont see why everyone is like oooooh the olson twins makeme so horny04:41
[[c0rrupt] ] lmfao04:41
[[c0rrupt] ] ga04:41
[[c0rrupt] ] y04:41
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FR500i get a problem updating my repositories: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/source/Sources.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)04:42
ksmurfORioN So I'm looking at do the nvidia-glx package if I can04:42
jmn_ubuntuwhat is root pwd fer ubuntu live (hoary)04:43
ksmurfroot04:43
jmn_ubuntutried that04:43
ksmurfsudo04:43
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ORiONksmurf: Ok, so have you installed the restricted nvidia module?04:43
ksmurfOrion Yes04:43
jmn_ubuntustill not working04:43
cyphasedoes anyone know if breezy is going to support more drivers through ndiswrapper?04:43
thoreauputicjmn_ubuntu: just open the root terminal04:43
StyxHow do I install Java support for Firefox?04:44
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thoreauputic!java04:44
ubotujava is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:44
glickdoes anyone here like coding in java04:44
glickam i the only one that hates it?04:44
FR500any repos were i can get the latest "mergeant2?04:44
Quest-MasterMost people here prefer Python04:44
FR500*mergeant04:44
glicki talked to a CE collegue of mine and he was ramblin and raving about how fantastic java is04:45
ORiONksmurf: and the module is loaded?04:45
glicki wanted to back hand him one04:45
pobstilMrCroup: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=chroot+jail  is that what we're talking about?04:45
cyphasePython is great04:45
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MrCrouppobstil: yeah that looks like it04:46
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str8edgethoreauputic: how's it going?04:47
pobstilcool thanks04:47
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thoreauputicstr8edge: OK - I had some bad news about the death of an old family friend yesterday so I'm not 100%04:47
str8edgethoreauputic: my condolences.04:48
ksmurfhow would I install the module?  Modprobe?04:48
str8edgethe #dashboard channel on gimpnet is rocking tonight!04:48
QMarioIs the Sempron64 a good processor?04:48
ORiONksmurf: lsmod to make sure its loaded, if not modprobe nvidia04:48
ksmurfFATAL: Module nvidia not found.04:49
ksmurfI have to install it first do I not?04:49
ORiONksmurf: then you don't have it installed04:49
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ksmurfCorrect04:49
thoreauputicstr8edge: thanks04:49
ORiONksmurf: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules04:50
ORiONksmurf: you'll need to choose the right one for your arch04:50
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ksmurflinux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-7-686-smp is what I have istalled04:51
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QMarioIs the Sempron64 a "good" processor?04:51
[[c0rrupt] ] nien04:51
QMarioSorry for asking "twice". :-[04:52
str8edgeqmario: if you can afford the extra $$ for a true amd64, go that way.04:52
EnsignRedshirtAny USB gurus here?  I'm trying to talk to a digital camera.04:52
MrCroupQMario: its evil04:52
QMario Hee hee hee. 04:52
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Ice9how can I get my usb gamepad to work?04:52
QMarioMrCroup, how?04:52
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ksmurflinux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-7-686-smp is already the newest version04:52
ORiONksmurf: have you updated your kernel recently?04:53
ORiONksmurf: without rebooting?04:53
user1anyone using ubuntu on an HP pavilion with the intel 2200 wifi chipset?04:53
ORiONksmurf: make sure you have nvidia-kernel-common as well04:53
ksmurfNo.  This Is a Fresh Breezy Install04:53
ksmurfI do04:53
ksmurfMy kerrnal is 2.6.12-704:54
ksmurfamp04:54
ksmurfsmp04:54
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ksmurfORiON http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/34134404:56
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freedomjazzdanceGood night!04:56
zerboxxIf I'm using one program to download torrents, and I want to switch, is it possible to resume the downloads but change programs?04:56
QMarioFreedomjazzdance, good night!04:57
QMarioSleep tight.04:57
glickwow ubuntu is still #1 on distro watch all the other distros are losing to it04:57
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QMarioDon't let the Windows' viruses bite! ;)04:57
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freedomjazzdanceQMario, heehh dont worry i'm using protection04:57
FR500any repos were i can get the latest "mergeant?04:58
BTJusticeMight anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.04:58
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bluefoxicyyawn,.05:00
bz0bcan someone tell me where to get some good sources?05:00
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bz0bfor my sources.list file05:00
QMarioBluefoxicy, are you "tired"?05:00
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QMario!sources05:00
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:00
bluefoxicyQMario:  bored, deciding if I should put part of my paper on the ubuntu wiki and try to hijack community members and developers to do my dirty work.05:01
QMarioUbotu, tell bz0b about sources.05:01
bluefoxicyQMario: want to make a small backend technology to let applications deliver simple messages to the user05:01
QMarioBluefoxicy, are you being "sarcastic"? :(05:01
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bluefoxicyQMario:  the major use of course is to bring up security concerns, i.e. explain encrypting e-mail, automatic updates, SPF verification for spoofed e-mails, anti-spoofing bars. . .05:02
pjwHi all, Can I download the ubuntu with sources? Where are sources? I just found binary files :(05:02
bluefoxicyQMario:  nah.05:02
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QMario Ubotu, tell pjw about sources.05:03
thoreauputicpjw: of course - look in /etc/apt/sources.list and you'll see "src" lines there05:03
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i4hello shentu05:03
metisis anyone familiar with setting up creloaded?05:04
kevin06Is there a simple solution to installing TrueType fonts on Ubuntu? I used the ttmkdir thing that I found a tutorial for, but IO keep getting a segmentation fault. Has anyone written a drag-and grop font solution yet?05:04
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shentuanybody knows how to avoid into the Gnome GUI after reboot?05:04
thoreauputicpjw: source is available for all packages in main and universe at least05:04
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thoreauputicshentu: permanently ?05:04
nickrudkevin06, just drop any ttf font in $HOME/.fonts, and it should be available for most apps05:04
GatoLoko^( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processo Speed: 451.064 MHz Cache: 64 KB ]  | RAM Usage: 79/384M [|||||||||||]  ( 20.6% ) | [ HD Model: Maxtor 86480D6 Size: 5G with 3G Free ( 60.0% ) ]  | Number of process: 5905:04
GatoLoko^y tu te quejas de tu equipo05:05
GatoLoko^xP05:05
BTJusticeMight anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.05:05
GatoLoko^ups05:05
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bluefoxicyQMario: eh, I'll make a wiki, someone will delete it if it's ugly :P05:05
metiscan anyone help me with sendmail?05:05
kevin06nickrud, I don't have .fonts. Do I merely have to create it?05:05
nickrudkevin06, yes05:05
shentuhi thoreauputic, not permanently, but I would like to have this option. In fedora, if I set the runlevel to 3 in /etc/inittab, that will be fine05:06
metissry i meant postfix05:06
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nickrudthat ttmkfdir whatever, is very obsolete05:06
benplauthow do i (non-GUIly) install mouse cursors?05:06
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[[c0rrupt] ] apt-get install windoz05:07
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thoreauputicshentu: you can either do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ,, or edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and comment out the /usr/bin/gdm05:07
tristanmikeBTJustice, check out this thread and see if it helps....http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sound+blaster+24bit05:07
FlonneBTJustice, ALSA 1.0.8, which shipped with Hoary, introduced primitive support for those cards in the form of the snd-ca0106 module. ALSA is now up to 1.0.9b, so hopefully, Breezy will improve support.05:07
shentuthoreauputic, many thanks!05:07
thoreauputicshentu: no problem :)05:07
glickwow ubuntu is still #1 on distro watch all the other distros are losing to it05:08
glicksorry05:08
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glickwrong active window05:08
juanejhey, how do i go back to metacity... I was using openbox05:09
pjwthoreauputic: but, i would like to download distribution with all sources and to have in a DVD disk, Is any file (.tar.gz) with all sources? English language isn't my first language, so I can make some mistakes in sentences :P05:09
kevin06One more question. When I have a LOT of fonts,. I have been told it slows the system down. Is this true, and is there any simple way to reduce this slow-down?05:09
Flonnejuanej metacity --replace, just like how you switched to Openbox. Or logout.05:09
thoreauputicpjw: hmm - packages.ubuntu.com  , or archive.ubuntu.com05:10
nickrudI've been told it slows down the X startup only, but have no benchmarks05:10
juanejFlonne: but i do that and then next time i log in nautilius doesnt load05:10
juaneji have to open it to see the background05:10
thoreauputicpjw: the packages are on the archive site05:10
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str8edgepwj: head over to the debian site, and look up how to set up a mirror, then use something to burn it to a dvd05:10
str8edgethe debian method for setting up a local mirror applies well to ubuntu.05:11
Flonnejuanej, did you change to Openbox entirely? (Like, did you change from Gnome?)05:11
juanejFlonne: i edited .xinitrc to load openbox when i logged in05:11
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[[c0rrupt] ] when i apt-get update05:12
[[c0rrupt] ] The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/httpu could not be found.05:12
pjwthank you all05:12
Flonnejuanej, have you tried simply moving .xinitrc?05:12
juaneji remove it, but it doesnt seem to work05:12
str8edgepwj: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO-8.html05:13
Flonnejuanej, have you tried restarting after that?05:13
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juanejyep05:13
str8edgei've been using debian WAY too long.05:13
Ice9how can I get my usb gamepad to work?05:13
str8edgeIce9: what type fo gamepad?05:14
Ice9saitek 250005:14
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[[c0rrupt] ] The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/httpu could not be found.05:15
vader1102night people05:15
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thoreauputic[[c0rrupt] ] : breezy?05:15
[[c0rrupt] ] nope05:15
thoreauputichmm05:15
[[c0rrupt] ] hoary05:15
[[c0rrupt] ] its not actually my pc its a friend im ssh05:16
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[[c0rrupt] ] he just installed it05:16
sockpuppe1thoreauputic i need some help05:16
sockpuppe1if you don't mind05:16
juanejwhen will be breezy stable?05:16
str8edgeice9: usb?05:16
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thoreauputicsockpuppe1: don't we all? *grin*05:16
thoreauputic!ask05:16
str8edgejuanej: some time in october05:16
sockpuppe1 error while loading shared libraries: libjack.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:17
Ice9str8edge, yes05:17
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sockpuppe1what should I do to rectify this05:17
thoreauputic!tell sockpuppe1 about ask05:17
nickrudubotu ask is there is no such thing as a stupid question05:17
ubotu...but ask is already something else...05:17
pjwstr8edge: Does Ubuntu have newer packages than the Debian? If it is true, I can't download, because I would like to have the newest software :P05:17
nickrud!tell nickrud about ask05:17
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[[c0rrupt] ] !kernel headers05:18
ubotu[[c0rrupt] ] : Wish i knew05:18
str8edgepjw: some stuff is newer, depends on what you're looking for. I use debian stable on my server, and ubuntu everywhere else05:18
[[c0rrupt] ] !headers05:18
ubotu[[c0rrupt] ] : Not a clue05:18
thoreauputicsockpuppe1: what are you doing that gives that error?05:18
sockpuppe1trying to run a program called aqualung05:18
str8edgepjw: my ps2 even has debian installed on it.05:18
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thoreauputicsockpuppe1: how did you install this program?05:19
str8edgeice9: do you see the gamepad activate when you plug it in?05:19
[[c0rrupt] ] !kernel05:19
sockpuppe1compiled it05:19
cyphasebrb, about to install breezy colony 3 on my dev machine :)05:19
str8edgesockpuppel: do you have libjack installed?05:19
TennesseeHi all. I want to make a DVD that will play in a DVD player (i.e. not just a data disc) from an avi. Anyone know how?05:19
sockpuppe1yeah str8edge05:19
thoreauputicsockpuppe1: sounds like the jackd sound daemon is needed05:20
Ice9str8edge, no05:20
str8edgesockpuppel: are you running jackd -d alsa or somesuch before starting aqualung?05:20
QMarioTennessee, this would probably require "illegal" software.05:20
TennesseeQM: Surely the software itself is not illegal...05:20
QMarioImplying libdvdcss2.05:20
Quest-MasterTennessee: QMario you mean?05:21
Quest-MasterOh, never mind05:21
Dimehow do i add commands to my start for my soundcard example modprobe05:21
Quest-MasterIt highlighted me, lol05:21
TennesseeI don't need to rip anything, just write.05:21
str8edgeice9: can you tell me what happens in the syslog when you plug the pad?05:21
sockpuppe1str8edge i dont think so05:21
QMarioTennessee, that is all I know on the topic.05:21
TennesseeSorry Quest...05:21
Tennesseecheers anyway mario05:21
Ice9str8edge, if you can tell me how to get to the syslog05:21
thoreauputicQMario: no, he's *making* a DVD, not decoding one05:21
str8edgesockpuppel: jackd needs to be run before starting any depent apps05:22
QMarioTennessee, that probably won't be what the US or Europe would say.05:22
sockpuppe1ohhh05:22
nickrudDime, you normally you would put any odd modules that hotplug does not load automatically in /etc/modules05:22
sockpuppe1ill try it05:22
EasterSunshineanyone know a good ogg player that doesn't choke on filenames with korean unicode in it?05:22
EasterSunshineand will play files over smb://05:22
QMarioAnyone can lie (not implying that you are a liar). ;)05:22
str8edgethoreauputic: hope you don't mind me jumping in like that!05:22
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QMario!totem05:22
ubotuI haven't a clue, QMario05:22
str8edgeice9: start a root terminal05:22
thoreauputicstr8edge: of course not - you seem to know more on the subject anyway :)05:23
QMario!media05:23
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, QMario05:23
QMario!multimedia05:23
ubotumultimedia is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia05:23
EasterSunshinei'll try totem05:23
sockpuppe1str8edge can I pm you?05:23
str8edgeice9: go for it.05:23
QMarioThen go ahead. ;)05:23
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str8edgeoops05:23
str8edgesockpuppel: go for it.05:23
Ice9str8edge, what do I type in root term?05:24
str8edgeice9: once you have the root terminal open, type "tail -f /var/log/syslog" (no quotes) and then plug in the game pad.05:24
QMario!Botsnack.05:24
ubotu:)05:24
gadis^^hotlinkhai05:24
Concord_Dawnhai everyone05:24
Concord_DawnI'm trying to chroot a user into their home directory.05:24
Concord_Dawnbut, whenever I log into that user, I get an 'Operation Not Permitted' error.05:25
Concord_DawnI've put the chroot command in that users .bashrc.05:25
Dimeok well is there a file like autoexec.bat in windows for linux so it will load on boot up05:25
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Ice9str8edge, where shall I tell you the output?05:25
gadis^^hotlinkwhat are you looking for05:25
EasterSunshinedime: /etc/modules maybe05:26
nickrudDime no, there is nothing like that (thankfully)05:26
gadis^^hotlinkwhat you mean05:26
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Dimewell i dont feel like having to type in modprobe everytime i restart just to get my sound working05:26
Dimecause hotplug didnt find it05:27
[[c0rrupt] ] dime05:27
thoreauputicDime: put the modules in /etc/modules05:27
[[c0rrupt] ] add a startup script05:27
nickrudDime, then, try adding the module you modprobe to the end of /etc/modules, then reboot. see if it works05:27
[[c0rrupt] ] okooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook,05:27
gadis^^hotlinkwhere are you now?05:27
thoreauputic[[c0rrupt] ] : no he doesn't need thatfor modules05:27
Dimethe modules are in ubuntu already05:27
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nickrudDime, which modules?05:27
thoreauputicDime: /etc/modules <-----05:28
Dimemodprobe snd-sbawe;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;05:28
Dimemodprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss05:28
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str8edgeice9: pm me05:28
Dimethose are the commands i need to have ran at start-up05:28
abydoswhat is the package to dpkg-reconfigure in order to modify network settings?05:28
thoreauputicDime: you don't need the modprobe part - just put each module name on a separate line in /etc/modules05:29
thoreauputicDime: to edit /etc/modules do for instance  sudo gedit /etc/modules05:29
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Concord_DawnIs there a way for me to chroot a user to their home directory everytime they login05:30
Concord_Dawnvia a startup script or something?05:30
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Concord_Dawnabydos, ifconfig?05:30
Dimeok so what would the modules be then05:30
Dimesnd-sbawe05:31
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thoreauputicDime: yes, just the names you have done modprobe for05:31
Wanderer___Anyone here an experienced Ubuntu user?05:32
Concord_Dawnwhat you need help with?05:32
EasterSunshinewe are gonna need something in the topic to address that question...05:32
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abydosConcord_Dawn:  no, it's a meta-type package05:32
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Concord_Dawnno, that's the command to modify network settings.05:32
abydosConcord_Dawn:  dpkg-reconfigure xxxx is the typical syntax for calling it, it's like a druid05:32
nickrudDime, I would just add snd-sbawe to /etc/modules, and reboot. the other modules should be automatically added.05:33
redtechI have a little printer situation here.  I'm trying to isntall a 3rd printer and the only selection I have for Manufacture is Raw.  I used to have a ton of Manufactures, what happened?05:33
Concord_Dawnoh05:33
nickruds/added/loaded05:33
Dimeok now i have one last question05:33
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: it's like the "any <insert subject> gurus here?" question... ;)05:33
Wanderer___Well, preferably someone who can tell me why it won't install.05:33
Concord_Dawnoh05:33
Concord_Dawnwell05:33
Dimehow would i go about getting terminal and gdesklets to start up on start up05:33
BTJusticeFlonne:  I was awy.  SOrry.  Should I upgrade to ALSA b?05:33
Concord_Dawnwhat error do you get?05:33
FR500Dime: in Session properties05:33
thoreauputic!tell Wanderer___ about ask05:34
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Wanderer___Where you talking to me, Concord?05:34
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nickrudDime, have a terminal open, log out, and select save this session, or some such. gdesklets, I'll never know, unless they get better05:34
Concord_Dawnyes Wanderer___05:34
BTJusticetristanmike: Thos were the directions I used to get it to work, but hte sound is scratchy and jumpy.05:34
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EasterSunshinethere are definetely gonna be ubuntu gurus in #ubuntu, not to mention that you don't need to ask if you can ask for help since it says official ubuntu help chan in the topic05:34
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abydosubotu:  tell me about network05:35
EasterSunshinewe already know you are here for help...05:35
Concord_Dawn!tell abydos about network05:35
abydoshe has no idea what network is05:35
tristanmikeBTJustice, yeah, actually I saw that after, sorry05:35
Concord_Dawnindeed.05:35
BTJusticeMight anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.05:35
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EasterSunshinebtjustice: i had scratchy...i turned 'tone' off in kmix, i never had jumpy05:36
BTJusticeEasterSunshine: Where might I find the tone setting?05:36
Wanderer___Jesus, what did I do to piss ubotu off???05:37
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EasterSunshinebtjustice: umm try alsamixer, if it isn't there, then sry i don't know. kmix is the only mixer i've ever played with05:37
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zerboxxDoes anyone here use torrentflux?05:37
EasterSunshineWanderer___: ubotu can't get pissed off...hes a few kilobytes of script05:38
thoreauputicWanderer___: ubotu is the channel bot - he has no emotions ;)05:38
sockpuppe1the php torrent client thinger05:38
sockpuppe1nah05:38
Wanderer___Oh.05:38
MadpilotWanderer___: did you just get asked if you were on crack? ;)05:38
zerboxxsockpuppe1: it's pretty neat, I'm just trying to figure some stuff out that the forums, or readmes just don't tell me :)05:38
nickrudubotu has a very limited range of insults :)05:38
ubotunickrud: Do they come in packets of five?05:38
EasterSunshinein the amarok channel, there is a bot amarok, and everytime you mention amarok, he makes a snappy comment05:38
Wanderer___Huh? Why would I be asked that?05:39
MadpilotWanderer___: it's one of ubotu's standard replies when it has no idea what you're talking about...05:39
EasterSunshinessh...we are confusing Wanderer___.05:39
GrYpHoNAlright, got a question for you linux heads.  I got everything working with my wireless but it dosent look like its scanning for any wireless networks, like the radio is off.  The indicator light dosent come on either.  Its a hp pavillion zv5000 laptop by the way.  Any ideas?05:39
zerboxxEasterSunshine:  heh05:39
glickdamn there is sooo much wisdom in fortune05:39
EasterSunshinessh as in hush, not secure shell05:39
zerboxxEasterSunshine: Why not that too?05:40
thoreauputicWanderer___: if you ask ubotu something he doesn't know, he sometimes asks you if you are on crack :)05:40
BTJusticeMight switches have anything to do with it?  I have AC97 In, SPDIF Out, SPDIF In, SPDIF Out, SRC Out, i2s In, i2s Mixer Out05:40
glickdamn there is sooo much wisdom in fortune05:40
glickdamn05:40
glickwrong window again05:40
EasterSunshineglick: i would rewrite fortune, every now and then it pops out a lame riddle. i never see riddles in fortune cookies05:40
tristanmikeubotu pie05:40
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tristanmike05:40
metiscam anyone help me setup my postfix with oscommerce?05:40
tristanmikehaha, no crack for me05:40
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avadashhey how do i mount a bin/cue/iso file to a virtual cd-rom?05:41
glickDeath before dishonor.  But neither before breakfast.05:41
glickhehe05:41
bz0bhey people05:41
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bz0bhow do i run a .deb file?05:41
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thoreauputicavadash: I've heard "bchunk" can handle bin/cue05:41
zerboxx!dpkg05:41
ubotusomebody said dpkg was the Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb05:41
zerboxxbz0b: that's for you :)05:42
abydoshow do you reconfigure the NICs with dpkg-reconfigure?05:42
linuxn00bHi eveyone :) I was wonding is it possible to change the apt sources in the hoary installer?05:42
avadashthoreauputic: thx man05:42
GrYpHoNAny ideas anyone?05:42
nickrudbz0b, you don't 'run' a deb, you install it. I'ts a package of software05:42
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bz0bi see thanks guys05:43
str8edgeabydos: use the network control panel under system | adminstration | networking05:43
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bz0bnow that i have skype installed, the possibilities are endless05:43
Wanderer___Anyway, the installer goes to the first screen, I hit enter and it spews it's standard compiler gibberish. All is well untill it says :booting kernel", or some such thing. It is then that my computer reboots. The cd then gets reread. And, I'm plopped right back at the screen that I began at. It's like some hellish cyber-version remake of Groundhog Day without the damn groundhog.05:43
bz0bnow if I could only get ventrilo working on linux05:43
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bz0bthat would make my life a lot easier05:43
rootguys .. have a little problem my etc/apt/sources.list is f..ed up05:43
rootI can't apt-get install anything05:43
bz0bdoes it says something like httpu05:44
PurpleMotionHai, fsckers!05:44
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nickrudroot, lhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 has been a canonical sources.list for a while05:44
rootit always says that theare unmet dependencies ...05:44
thoreauputicWanderer___: remove the CD for the reboot - it is just re-booting the install CD05:44
Concord_DawnPurpleMotion, can you help me with a chrooting problem?05:44
thoreauputicWanderer___: or did I misunderstand your description?05:45
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rootto make matter worse... it is always the same message.. the same unmet packages for any single package I want to install.. even if they are installed already05:45
PurpleMotion"05:45
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PurpleMotionConcord_Dawn:  i dont know, whats the problem05:45
linuxn00bso anyone know if it is possible to change the apt sources in the hoary installer?05:45
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: that would require actually reading what the installer says ;)05:45
nickrudroot, how about posting that error message on paste.ubuntulinux.org05:45
bz0bbz0b@bz0b:~$ skype05:45
bz0bskype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:45
bz0bcan someone tell me whaT that means?05:46
str8edgelinuxn00b: if you do an expert install you can. I don't recomend it.05:46
Concord_DawnPurpleMotion, I want to chroot a user into their home directory everytime they login.05:46
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  fsckin frightening, eh05:46
Wanderer___Which time? when I first stick it in the drive, reboot, then do the enter thing? Or do you mean when it reboots the second time?05:46
bz0bdo i need to apt get something?05:46
Concord_Dawnit's an SSH only account.05:46
Concord_Dawnso whenever they start bash05:46
Concord_Dawnso I put /usr/sbin/chroot ~/ in their .bash05:46
Concord_Dawn.bashrc*05:46
PurpleMotionso you want them to see their home directory as root?05:46
linuxn00bstr8edge, im in the expert install now but I don't know see where I can change it.05:46
EasterSunshineprobably apt-get install libqt-mt05:46
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: yeah - like no-one notices the stuff about root/sudo in the installer...05:46
Concord_Dawnbut I get a "You ain't root biatch" error.05:46
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bz0bcan someone please tell me what this means?05:47
thoreauputicWanderer___: the installer tells you when to remove the CD05:47
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bz0bexpert install now but I don't know see where I can change it.05:47
bz0bEasterSunshine probably apt-get install libqt-mt05:47
bz0bthoreauputic PurpleMotion: yeah - like no-one notices the stuff about root/sudo in the installer...05:47
bz0bConcord_Dawn but I get a "You ain't root biatch" error.05:47
bz0b* omaru (n=omaru@200.79.201.159.cableonline.com.mx) has joined #ubuntu05:47
bz0bbz0b can someone please tell me what this means?05:47
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bz0bthoreauputic Wanderer___: the installer tells you when to remove the CD05:47
PurpleMotionConcord_Dawn:  you want them to not be able to access beyond their /home dir right05:47
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bz0bwoopsie05:47
bz0bsorry05:47
nickrudbz0b, you can usually track down errors like that with non-ubuntu software by searching for the missing file on packages.ubuntu.com05:47
Concord_Dawnpretty much, unless I symlink05:47
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PurpleMotionConcord_Dawn:  jailshell05:47
metiscan someone help with postfix05:47
Concord_Dawn=\05:47
PurpleMotion!jailshell05:47
ubotuPurpleMotion: Bugger all, i dunno05:47
Concord_Dawn?05:47
Wanderer___No, it doesn't.05:47
PurpleMotionhrmm05:47
PurpleMotionill find it for you05:48
bz0bnickrud, thanks05:48
EasterSunshineconfigure your irc clients ppl...to warn you about pasting multiple lines or something05:48
Concord_Dawnthanks PurpleMotion05:48
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Concord_DawnEasterSunshine, mIRC does that after pasting about 5 lines.05:48
tristanmikethoreauputic, he can't even get into the installer05:48
rootthat address does not work05:48
thoreauputicWanderer___: yes, it does - we've all done the install, you know - you'll need to be more precise i think05:48
rootpaste.ubuntulinux.org05:48
EasterSunshinemetis: there is #postfix, but they look idle...05:48
xsadikxhow can i change the default gnome menu icon? i downloaded a custom ubuntu icon05:49
PurpleMotionjailer - Builds and maintains chrooted environments05:49
PurpleMotionjailtool - Tool to build chroot-jails for daemons05:49
EasterSunshineConcord_Dawn: you are using mirc?05:49
Concord_Dawnno.05:49
nickrudroot, sorry, paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:49
thoreauputicWanderer___: are you saying the installer aborts before it even starts?05:49
EasterSunshineConcord_Dawn: if so, it better be on wine05:49
tristanmikethoreauputic, yeah, I've been trying to help to no avail05:49
Concord_Dawnlol, indeed05:49
PurpleMotioninstall jailer and jailtool05:49
Wanderer___It says nothing to me. I guess I was unclear. It gets no farther than "Booting Kernel" before it reboots ad infintium.05:49
Concord_Dawnok05:49
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metishow do u get to these other rooms easter? where do i find these?05:50
thoreauputicWanderer___: is the disk OK? Have you checked the md5sum?05:50
thoreauputicWanderer___: bad burn? mybe?05:50
thoreauputic*maybe05:50
xsadikxHow do I change the default gnome menu icon?05:50
Wanderer___What is md5sum?05:50
cafuego<heh> That's the first time I've used chmod 405005:50
tristanmikethoreauputic, it's apparently an offical one he got from a friedn05:50
tristanmike*friend05:50
thoreauputictristanmike: ah OK05:50
EasterSunshinemetis: type "/j #postfix" to enter the #ostifx channel, which had 106 nicks when i visited, so i dunno how easily you will get reponse05:50
Concord_DawnWanderer___, it's a string (hash) that represents all of the data on a disc or in a file.05:51
EasterSunshinemetis: sry thats "/j #postfix"05:51
EasterSunshineargh my client wont let me send it05:51
Wanderer___How to check it?05:51
bz0bnickrud, so would i most likely be downloading the libqt3-mt-dev?05:51
Concord_Dawnsearch md5 in the repos.05:51
PurpleMotionEasterSunshine:  there are 431 people in here, and everybody gets help if someones around who knows the answer05:51
rootcan anyone check out my post http:/paste.ubuntulinux.org/141405:51
nickrudbz0b, probably not the dev, that's if you want to compile against libqt3-mt, but you are close :)05:51
EasterSunshinepurplemoon: i know but i thought they would be more familiar with postfix in #postfix05:52
thoreauputicroot: you do know that runing IRC as root is a Bad Thing, don't you?05:52
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tristanmikeConcord_Dawn, if he can't get it installed, how can he get it in the repos?05:52
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  really? what can you do to him?05:52
Concord_Dawndoh05:52
Concord_Dawntrue.05:52
Concord_Dawnwell05:52
Concord_Dawnhe could use the livecd.05:52
Concord_Dawnbut05:52
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Concord_Dawnsearch MD5 for Windows in google05:53
Wanderer___What exactly am I looking for?05:53
root.. I didn't realize I was05:53
Concord_Dawnand Md5 hashing tool for Windows.05:53
roothold on a sec05:53
rootexit05:53
Concord_Dawnor whatever your current OS is.05:53
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: I can't - but if his client has any vulnerabilities he's wide open to them05:53
xsadikxcan you guys point me to some tutorial on how to mount ntfs partitions under ubuntu?05:53
PurpleMotionheh05:53
Concord_DawnPurpleMotion, I installed those, now what?05:53
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hardw1reis he using the root account?05:53
wjesusaxlI'm back.. I used to be root05:53
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PurpleMotionchances are about as good as someone catching a copy of your credit card number if you send it unencrypted05:53
EasterSunshinethat reminds me, what package does the command smbmount come in?05:53
Wanderer___I can get to a text file with the name md5sum.txt. Is that it?05:53
nickrudoh, that was you :)05:54
Madpilot!ntfs05:54
ubotuI heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab05:54
Madpilotxsadikx: see ubotu above ^^^05:54
Concord_DawnWanderer___, yeah, but you need to check that against the md5 hash generated from the file you have on your HDD05:54
PurpleMotionEasterSunshine:  watch ubotu05:54
Concord_Dawnso05:54
PurpleMotion!find smbmount05:54
Wanderer___HDD?05:54
xsadikxcool05:54
nickrudwjesusaxl, do as it says, sudo apt-get install -f05:54
Concord_Dawnhard disk drive.05:54
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: *shrug*  in some channels being root is an automatic kick05:54
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  yeah i know, i always thought thatw as quite gay05:54
Concord_Dawnso05:55
Concord_Dawnsearch Md5 for Windows in Google.05:55
wjesusaxlnickrud: I tried that once ... and it wiped clean all my packages05:55
Concord_Dawnand download an md5 hashing tool.05:55
PurpleMotionSearch of 'smbmount' (5 shown; 41 total): (/usr/bin/smbmount) in otherosfs/smbfs ;; (/usr/share/samba/swat/help/smbmount.8.html) in universe/net/swat ;; (/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/smbmount.8.html) in doc/samba-doc ;; (/usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/konq_smbmounterplugin.mo) in kde/kde-i18n-tr ;; (/usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/konq_smbmounterplugin.mo) in kde/kde-i18n-ja.05:55
EasterSunshinePurpleMotion: i'm watching...05:55
nickrudwjesusaxl, ?05:55
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vitriolthe ubuntu forums don't work too well in lynx :(05:55
PurpleMotionit didnt do it in the channel05:55
nickrudwiped clean? I've been saved at every turn by that command :)05:55
wjesusaxlevery single package I insalled was gone05:55
tristanmikeConcord_Dawn, it's an offical cd, not a burned one05:55
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PurpleMotionwhats unofficial about a burned cd?05:56
PurpleMotionim pretty sure it has the same license as a stamped one05:56
Concord_Dawnyeah05:56
Concord_Dawnit does.05:56
ChiacomoPurpleMotion: Thanks for your help yesterday -- ended up getting my sound going... :D05:56
PurpleMotionand byte for byte the same data05:56
PurpleMotionChiacomo:  anytime :)05:56
EasterSunshinePurpleMotion: that only gives the paths to smbmnt, not the package05:56
MadpilotPurpleMotion: do "!+find smbmount" or whatever - with the + sign - to force ubotu to post the the channel05:56
PurpleMotionEasterSunshine:  it does holdon05:56
Concord_DawnPurpleMotion, what do I do now with jailer?05:56
wjesusaxlok i'm on that05:56
vitriolanybody used colony 3?05:57
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nickrudwjesusaxl, the only comment I have, is you have some weird sources in you list. I'm pretty conservative about that05:57
PurpleMotionConcord_Dawn:  check the documentation, i guess.. i dont use it so im afraid i wont be much help.. once you get it working thought, you might wish to write a wiki article on it05:57
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wjesusaxlit seems to be some packages that go stuck05:57
ChiacomoPurpleMotion: Anytime? really? Sound is working but Audacity can't seem to handle it...05:57
PurpleMotiondunno anything about audacity, what6 is it?05:57
PurpleMotionEasterSunshine:  (/usr/bin/smbmount) in otherosfs/smbfs <-- it's in package smbfs05:58
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thoreauputicChiacomo: audacity has problems with esd - try "killall esd" and run it again05:58
wjesusaxlnickrud: I'm kind a newbie ... not totally05:58
nickrudwjesusaxl, how about posting your /etc/apt/sources.list on paste05:58
FR500hello05:58
ChiacomoPurpleMotion: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ --05:58
Chiacomothoreauputic: Okey dokey... don't restart esd?05:58
wjesusaxlI found one on the web and replace I had..05:58
FR500what is the page for backports?05:59
wjesusaxlreplace what I once had05:59
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PurpleMotionoh i have that05:59
wjesusaxlnow it's working05:59
avadashhow do i mount a iso image?05:59
thoreauputicChiacomo: try it without esd and see05:59
PurpleMotiondunno mine worked out of the box05:59
avadash????05:59
wjesusaxlcan't believe it05:59
Wanderer___No, you guys missunderstood. My friend had extra copies of the official cds he order (ie he order multiple official cds). That's what I'm using  (or trying to use, depending on how you look at it) right know. Oh, I found Md5 Checksum utility for Win32. Is that what I'm looking for in the google?06:00
EasterSunshinePurpleMotion: ah, i thought smbfs was referring to the name of the filesystem06:00
nickrudwjesusaxl, I can, I've been using apt for a long time.06:00
PurpleMotionavadash:  mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /mnt/mount_point06:00
PurpleMotionEasterSunshine:  nope,t hats the package06:00
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thoreauputicavadash: sudo modprobe loop ; mount -o loop /mnt/point file.iso ; cd /mnt/point06:00
ianhello ppl..06:00
wjesusaxlso I have06:00
wjesusaxlbut I didn't trust apt-get install -f06:00
nickrudoff topic, who aptly named apt, anyway :)06:00
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PurpleMotionwhy in gods name are you probing for loop?06:00
iandoes ubuntu..automatically..detect new hardware..installed?06:01
thoreauputicoops PurpleMotion is right, ignore me avadash06:01
PurpleMotionwhat dist doesnt install a loop device?06:01
wjesusaxlbecause it took down all my packages06:01
BTJusticeMight anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307 was how I got the card working in the first place.06:01
Chiacomothoreauputic: It's working now, but sounds slow and like I'm in a barrel when I try to record... :P06:01
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: the module wsn't auto loaded here.. YMMV06:01
PurpleMotiononly on linux can sucha fine card sound like total arse06:01
Wanderer___Guys? Is that what I'm looking for?06:01
iandoes ubuntu..automatically..detect new hardware..installed?06:01
ian:)06:01
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  oh it doesnt here either, till somethign calls the loop device then it automagically loads06:02
PurpleMotionunloads when you're done too06:02
Concord_Dawnian: yes06:02
Concord_Dawnafaik.06:02
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Wanderer___Hello?06:02
PurpleMotionhow do i change _my_ text in x-chat?06:02
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: hmm - OK - last time I did it was on warty, and I had to modprobe it for some weird reason06:02
ianConcord_Dawn: thanks..06:03
Concord_DawnPurpleMotion, can't.06:03
nickrudWanderer___, you06:03
PurpleMotionbullshit06:03
FR500ian: yes, but not all the hw works out of the box06:03
PurpleMotioni dont believe that06:03
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FR500ian: just like windoze06:03
nickrud're using a pressed cd from shipit.ubuntu.com?06:03
tristanmikeWanderer___, no, you would only need that if you downloaded your copy, officals shouldn't need a md5 checksum06:03
wjesusaxlnickrud: what happens when you got into iRC as you are root06:03
helloyoi'm having some difficulty with breezy, my network doesn't work due to a wrong driver i think, how do i configure this?06:03
ianFR500: ok thanks..ill try....i will get back if its does not work..:D06:03
nickrudwjesusaxl, have no idea, I have'nt run as root for anything for a =very= long time06:03
FR500ian: what are you trying to install06:04
wjesusaxlnickrud: someone just told me it was bad06:04
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nickrudwjesusaxl, listen to them. root is for system admin, nothing else. Life occurs as a user.06:04
Wanderer___Yet an md5 checksum this pressed cd has. I'm looking at the file in all its' wierd hexadecimal glory even as we speak (type?).06:04
Webby`Hi, I'm having mouse trouble. My mouse won't scroll. Any advice on how to get this to work?06:04
BTJusticeMight anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307 was how I got the card working in the first place.06:05
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wjesusaxlI did know that06:05
wjesusaxlbut I thought it could be risky06:05
vitriolgoing on irc as root as like browsing with internet explorer in windows as administrator06:05
vitriol.....oh wait06:05
vitriol:p06:05
Madpilotvitriol: hah!06:05
BTJusticelol06:05
Wanderer___Hello? Guys?06:05
judax:)06:06
nickrudI never run windows, so I'll take your word :)06:06
tristanmikeWanderer___, what is you wanted to know?06:06
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Wanderer___I just replied that this pressed cd has an md5sum file.06:06
tristanmikeWanderer___, yes it will have one, the thing is that the download ones may have a corrupt one, does that make sense?06:07
tristanmikeWanderer___, in downloading it, it may get corrupted06:07
Wanderer___hmmm. Yes. So what am I doing wrong?06:07
tristanmikesomeone help this guy get his Linux installed06:08
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nickrudWanderer___, this pressed cd, you boot it, what happens? (sorry, I've been in and out on the channel)06:08
PurpleMotionConcord_Dawn:  go to Settings -> Advanced -> Text Events... ->second option fromt he bottom. chamge C30 to whatever other color you want your text to be06:09
Wanderer___ the installer goes to the first screen, I hit enter and it spews it's standard compiler gibberish. All is well untill it says :booting kernel", or some such thing. It is then that my computer reboots. The cd then gets reread. And, I'm plopped right back at the screen that I began at. It's like some hellish cyber-version remake of Groundhog Day without the damn groundhog. [this is a paste,...06:09
Wanderer___...for conveniency}06:09
nickrudah, I did see that :)06:09
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nickrudWanderer___, so, you put the cd in the tray, reboot the computer, hit enter on the first prompt, and, instead of installing ubuntu, the computer reboots?06:11
PurpleMotionman i can change everythign here06:11
tristanmikecyber-groundhog day without the damn groundhog, that's funny06:11
Concord_Dawnwell06:12
Concord_Dawnnight06:12
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tristanmikenickrud, that's what's happening to him06:13
judax:)06:13
tristanmikenickrud, over and over, if he hit's enter, reboot06:13
pjwConcord_Dawn: i have a beautiful morning :)06:13
nickrudhuh, and it's a pressed shipit.ubuntu.com disk. Some wierd hardware, I think, which I will duck.06:13
nickrudand pass to bob or crimson or someone like that :)06:14
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PurpleMotionhrmm06:14
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PurpleMotioni broked xchat06:14
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: wow - how did you manage that ? *g*06:14
PurpleMotionmessin with the text events :D06:14
PurpleMotionbut i fixed it06:14
nickrudWanderer___, sorry, that is just more than I can help with.06:15
tristanmikenickrud, what if the same thing is happening but it quits at the line... "PS/2 mouse device common for all mice"06:15
nickrudtristanmike, again, I'll pass that to the people who actually know the installer. I try to stay within my limits.06:15
tristanmikenickrud, cool06:17
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EasterSunshineanyone here knowledgable about pdf file specification can tell me if it stores a creation time/date?06:17
c0rruptInvalid memory block address.06:18
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nickrudEasterSunshine, not really knowledgeable, but, looking at a pdf I created, there's no date in it.06:19
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ianhello ppl..06:20
Wanderer___So? What do I do? I think my efforts at attempting an install have been very persistent. Does it end in failure?06:20
nickrudWanderer___, no, drop in and out of this list, and ask again. Better yet, send a question to the ubuntu-users mailling list.06:20
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thoreauputicWanderer___: just a stab in the dark - I think you can switch to tty4 to see error output (alt-F4)06:21
EasterSunshinenickrud: what program did you use to make it?06:21
thoreauputicmight be tty3... not sure06:21
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l0s3rk1dhi how can i change my desktop to kde?06:21
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EasterSunshinenickrud: i am particulaly interested in those exported by adobe acrobat06:21
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PurpleMotionsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:21
l0s3rk1dthanks06:22
BTJusticeMight anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307 was how I got the card working in the first place.06:22
thoreauputicl0s3rk1d: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:22
nickrudEasterSunshine, one I looked at was exported by openoffice. adobe, I don't know.06:22
l0s3rk1dwhere can i get the list of apt-gets?06:22
Wanderer___OK. I will try, try again.06:22
EasterSunshinenickrud: thx anyway06:22
Wanderer___BTW, what does it mean when a file has the extension "gz"?06:23
mike1980Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that CD-ROM was not in the drive06:23
mike1980can anyone help me06:24
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thoreauputicWanderer___: means it was compressed with "gzio" ( GNU compression tool)06:24
PurpleMotionwhere int he hell is the highlight option?06:25
thoreauputicoops a/gzio/gzip06:25
PurpleMotionto set the color for highlighting06:25
nickrudWanderer___, it's a type of compression, you would use gunzip to uncompress it06:25
helloyohow do i reconfigure my network?06:25
Wanderer___OK.. What's it doing on the Install cd?06:25
nickrudWanderer___, making all the stuff on it smaller, so more will fit06:26
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Ice9how come my cds aren't auto mounting?06:26
Wanderer___ok. Thanks to everyone that helped me!06:26
FR500helloyo: System->administration->networking06:27
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mike1980hi guys i am gettin error "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that CD-ROM was not in the drive" any ideas how to fix this?06:28
helloyoFR500, can you do it in the shell? i have installed breezy, but the network is stuffed, so installation doesn't complete06:28
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FR500helloyo: do you use dhcp?06:29
helloyoFR500, yep06:29
FR500helloyo: sudo dhclient interface_name06:29
wjesusaxldo you know what happens.. when I tried to compile a package and it tells me... gcc can create executable files06:29
GrYpHoNAny wireless Guru's here by chance?06:29
wjesusaxl????06:29
FR500GrYpHoN: no guru just ask06:30
GrYpHoNOk, here goes06:30
thoreauputicwjesusaxl: yes - install the build-essential package06:30
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wjesusaxlthoreaputic: and what does that mean?06:30
Ice9how come my cds aren't auto mounting?06:30
judax:)06:30
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c0rruptbz0b,06:31
c0rruptwherd u go06:31
thoreauputicwjesusaxl: build-essential isa package that supplies what you need for basic compiling06:31
thoreauputicwjesusaxl:  make, gcc , g++ etc06:31
PurpleMotionhrmm06:32
FR500helloyo: did it work?06:32
redtechI have a little printer situation here.  I'm trying to install another printer and the only selection I have for manufacturer is Raw.  I used to have a ton of manufactures, what happened?06:32
GrYpHoNCan't get my wireless to work.  All settings appear good, Radio is on, driver is loaded with ndiswrapper.  Had same issue with Linspaire 5.0.  Wireless works fine in Windows.06:32
wjesusaxlit happens when make ./configure06:32
wjesusaxlI mean just ./configure06:32
FR500GrYpHoN: what card?06:32
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GrYpHoNBroadcomm 4036.  Onboard on teh HP pavilion zv500006:32
FR500Broadcom06:32
mike1980is it possible to do a net install with ubuntu?06:32
FR500i think you gotta recompile kernel06:33
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GrYpHoNI see.  Ok Im extremly new to linux.  What is involved in that06:33
FR500mike1980: there is a PXE boot image that allows you to do that, i don't know otherwise06:33
FR500GrYpHoN: i think there is a guide on the wiki06:33
mike1980<FR500: ok thanks06:33
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GrYpHoNHummmm will check06:34
FR500mike1980: same as GrYpHoN06:34
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ArYOI have some problem with apt-get update in ubuntu06:34
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Linuxxwho speak Spanish?06:35
ArYOgzip:stdin :stdin not in gzip format06:35
FR500Linuxx: yo06:35
thoreauputicLinuxx:  /join #ubuntu-es06:35
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zovirlI'm having problems using dia's command-line export.  It works fine from the GUI, but from the command line (-e option) it prints a bunch of error messages and uses weird random colors06:36
zovirlany ideas why?06:37
Ice9when I try to play a dvd with xine, it says "there is no input plugin available to handle "dvd:/" how can I solve this06:37
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letschattwhere's apokry?06:38
letschatti was here a few hours ago desperately trying to get my wireless card working06:38
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letschatti got that mofo up. but had to boot back into windows because ubuntu slows my computer down06:39
letschatti know i am running a lot of garbage in the background. which stuff is safe to remove06:39
helloyoFR500, sorry, i think the problem is its using 8139cp instead of 8139too06:39
FR500helloyo: lol, what is that06:39
helloyoi think the ethernet driver06:40
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FR500and dhcp wont work?06:40
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helloyonope, network doesn't work at all06:40
PurpleMotionthats pissin me off06:40
PurpleMotionxchat crashes every time i update the text events06:41
PurpleMotionthey save06:41
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PurpleMotionbvut it crashes06:41
FR500helloyo: no clue, i'm just an average user06:41
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Ice9when I try to play a dvd with xine, it says "there is no input plugin available to handle "dvd:/" how can I solve this06:43
PurpleMotioninstall libdvdcss206:44
PurpleMotion!restricted06:44
uboturestricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:44
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PurpleMotioned06:45
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Madpilotis there anything in Ubuntu that can read .eps files - Encapsulated PostScript vector image files?06:46
splatgggv06:46
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splatgI think that works with eps06:46
jtan325evince?06:46
nickrudmost anything that reads postscript, i think06:46
PurpleMotionthis is much better now06:46
PurpleMotionI just need to figure out how to change everyone else's channel text06:47
PurpleMotionand add >>'s06:47
Ice9Purplemotion, libdvdcss2 was already installed06:47
rekaMadpilot: gnome-gv is installed by default06:47
PurpleMotionIce9:  I dunno then,t hat was just an educated guess06:47
vitriolwhat?! don't you dare change my channel text.....you insensitive clod!06:47
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PurpleMotionvitriol:  more than anything i want to add ">>" between your nick and your text06:48
Madpilotreka: (and everyone else) thanks, I'll check ghostview out06:48
vitriolxchat?06:48
PurpleMotionuh huh06:48
vitriolsorry i don't use xchat or i'd help...06:48
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vitriol 00:48:54 up 180 days, 14:25,  5 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.0706:49
vitriol:)06:49
nickrudconsole jockies :)06:49
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PurpleMotionwow06:49
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PurpleMotion6 months old today06:49
PurpleMotionyou must be proud06:49
GrYpHoNI can't find anything that I can understand on recompiling my kernel to allow my wireless work.  Anyone got a reference doc for me?  Having a hard time finding anything in the Wiki06:49
Madpilotthat's a lot of uptime - cool06:49
vitriola friend let's me use his server06:49
vitriolnot my boxen06:49
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PurpleMotionoh, heh06:50
vitriolGrYpHoN: what card is it?06:50
GrYpHoNBroadcom 4306 (rev.3)06:51
vitrioloohh06:51
pirvinghrllo06:51
vitriolyou need ndiswrapper06:51
pirvinghello06:51
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pirvingMy apt-get is timming out on a poopy server.  Should I just wait for it to finish or ctrl -c06:51
vitriolGrYpHoN: do !ndiswrapper and the bot will tell you where to look06:51
dubniumokay.. so I installed realplayer from the .bin on the website but it will not execute06:51
vitriol!tell GrYpHoN ndiswrapper06:51
vitriolbah06:52
vitriolthat didn't work06:52
GrYpHoNlol06:52
vitriolwell you know how to do it ;)06:52
Madpilotvitriol: "ubotu tell <nick> about <thing>"06:52
rekapirving: you using mirrors?06:52
vitriolyeah there we go06:52
GrYpHoNI got the driver loaded with ndiswrapper06:52
GrYpHoNalready06:52
kentaur!ndiswrapper06:52
ubotu[ndiswrapper]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper06:52
vitrioloh :p06:52
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vitriolGrYpHoN: so whats the problem?06:52
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splatgdubnium: so all the files got installed?06:53
dubniumthey're all in there06:53
GrYpHoNDosent connect to my wireless.  Works under windows.  Had same issue with Linspire.06:53
dubniumno error messages06:53
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pirvingI'm using a bad mirror06:53
pirvingI guess06:53
pirvingConnection timeout06:53
pirvingftp2.ciai.org06:53
vitriolGrYpHoN: what does dmesg say06:53
pirvingor something like that06:53
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vitriolGrYpHoN: immediately after you modprobe ndiswrapper06:54
pirvingftp2.caliu.net06:54
splatgmmm, in my experience realplayer does do that, you try to launch it and it doesn't do anything and then eventually appears out of nowhere06:54
vitriol?06:54
pirvingthats it06:54
Ice9how come my cd drives aren't auto mounting?06:54
Linux_Galorehmm06:54
GrYpHoNThats the thing.  I modeprobe and no message comes up.  (Noob here :()06:54
vitriolhmmm06:54
splatgdubnium: can you see its process in the system monitor06:54
hardw1redoes anyone know how to install the nforce1/2/3 drivers for the x86_64 system?06:54
vitriolsounds like you have the wrong driver06:54
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rekapirving: well, i don't know of that site/repo...but it's probably it06:54
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pirvingShould I just wait?06:55
Linux_Galorehardw1re: you need the kernel sources06:55
vitriolGrYpHoN: what .inf file are you using?06:55
Linux_Galorehardw1re: package06:55
hardw1reyeah i just apt-get them06:55
hardw1rebut it still says i need them :|06:55
Linux_Galorehardw1re: yep06:55
vitriolGrYpHoN: you can identify it with ndiswrapper -l06:55
rekapirving: what are you trying to get anyway?06:55
GrYpHoNbcwl5a.inf I believe06:55
dubniumsplatg, the .bin is in there "sleeping"06:55
hardw1rebut i can specify the path, but i dont know where that is06:55
vitriolGrYpHoN: ok it sounds like you have the wrong driver06:56
vitriolGrYpHoN: i'm 99% sure your card is supported06:56
pirvingwell, I'm running a ubuntusetup.sh06:56
pirvingscript06:56
vitriolGrYpHoN: are you using a 64 bit environment by chance?06:56
GrYpHoNThink?   Hummm.  Alright Ill try to load a different one.  128-bit06:56
pirvingit sucks, but its supposed to get everything setup for me after a fresh install instead of having to go find it all by myself06:56
hardw1re(Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64] 06:56
Linux_Galorehardw1re: apt will list all the files and paths for any package if you ask it to06:57
vitriolGrYpHoN: another one to try would be bcmwl5.inf06:57
Ice9how come my cd drives aren't auto mounting?06:57
vitriolGrYpHoN: if you do a google search for it, you can find it pretty easily06:57
vitriol(the driver file)06:57
vitrioli would give you a url for it if i were in X :)06:57
hardw1reUnpacking linux-source-2.6.10 (from .../linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34.4_all.deb) <-- that means the source is now on my system right?06:57
splatgdubnium: I'll try installing it and see if it works for me06:57
rekapirving: dunno, just wait i guess06:57
GrYpHoNIm using bcmwl5a.inf now but will try that one.  Thanks06:57
Linux_Galorehardw1re: yep06:58
dubniumi duno if theres a way to remove it... you sure?06:58
splatgyeah06:58
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vitriolGrYpHoN: you'll know when you have the right one because when you type 'dmesg' it'll tell you stuff about your wireless card06:58
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hardw1rehmmm06:58
vitriolhardw1re: yes that means you have the linux kernel source....06:59
hardw1reLinux_Galore: whats the apt command to view where the source was install to?06:59
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vitriolhardw1re: ls /usr/src (it's in there)06:59
hardw1recheers vitriol06:59
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Ice9how come my cd drives aren't auto mounting?07:00
hardw1redo i need to untar it?07:00
splatgdubnium: ok I installed it into a folder on my desktop and it worked07:00
vitriolhardw1re: is it a tar archive?07:00
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splatghave you tried killing the process and starting it again07:01
dubniumyup07:01
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vitriolhardw1re: in other words ...does it end in .bz2?07:01
dubniumyou install it as user or root?07:01
hardw1re.tar.bz207:01
hardw1reyup07:01
vitriolhardw1re: ok, to extract that file you need to do tar -jxf <filename>07:01
splatgjust as a regualar user, try what I did then07:02
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vitriolhardw1re: why do you need the kernel source?07:02
hardw1reto install the nforce3 drivers07:02
vitrioloohh07:02
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vitriolis this a third party driver or is it in the kernel?07:02
Ice9how come my cd drives aren't auto mounting?07:02
splatgit also looks like it just installs itself into the one "realplayer" folder so you should be able to remove it07:02
hardw1rethis is nvidia's driver, seeing as they make the nforce chipset :P07:03
vitriolhardw1re: i don't know if you need the kernel source07:03
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vitriolhardw1re: there is a good chance you only need the kernel headers07:03
hardw1renah the installer is asking for the kernel source07:03
hardw1reERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.07:03
thoreauputic!nvidia07:04
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2907:04
dubniumsplatg, did you chmod the installer or just go for it?07:04
vitriolhardw1re: ah well sucks to be you :)07:04
splatgchmod +x first07:04
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c0rruptnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiopopoooilk;07:04
splatgthen just ran it from a terminal07:04
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vitriolahh well there you go hardw1re thanks thoreauputic07:04
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killfillcould anyone show me a tipical output of "iwlist eth0 scan" please?07:04
hardw1rethats for the graphics itself isnt it...?07:04
hardw1renot for the chipset O_o ?07:05
FuricI need to add the "noapic" kernel option to boot to fix motherboard issues, but whenever i run update-grub or sometimes just randomly /boot/grub/menu.lst gets changed to not have my boot option, how do i get around this?07:05
FuricDo i put it on the # kopt line?07:05
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PurpleMotionthere we go07:08
PurpleMotionwe got some convention up in this biotch now07:08
vitriol*sigh*07:08
vitriolupgrading from hoary to breezy is borken...07:08
vitriol:(07:08
aeruderhow so?07:08
PurpleMotionyou all have >> after your nicks and before your messages07:08
MrPocketsif i have a pic i want as a splash screen, where do i put it?07:08
vitriolaeruder: can't find my root fs when booting07:08
aeruderi have a hard time believing that is a apt-get upgrade issue07:09
vitriolaeruder: please convince me otherwise :)07:09
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PurpleMotionboy thats annoying07:10
vitriolaeruder: i dare you to reboot07:10
vitriol:p07:10
vitrioli tried running the new kernel it installed07:10
vitriol2.6.1207:10
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vitrioland it says it can't find my root fs07:10
vitrioland thats from a server install of hoary07:10
aerudervitriol: yea, that's probably a bug in the new kernel then07:10
vitriolto apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy07:10
aeruderi compile my own kernels, so i doubt i'll have the problem ;)07:11
vitrioldamn you07:11
vitriol:p07:11
fabbionevitriol: the problem is initramfs07:11
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fabbioneit's not a kernel issue07:11
vitriolfabbione: is there a fix for it?07:11
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brenner!tell MrPockets about splashscreen07:11
PurpleMotionubotu, tell me about splashscreen07:11
fabbioneprobably.. it depends from your setup.. file a bug on initramfs explaining all your hw07:11
syncronhi07:11
PurpleMotioncool07:12
fabbioneand where root is07:12
vitriolfabbione: do you think i'd have the same problem if i used the colony 3 cd?07:12
PurpleMotionubotu, than you07:12
ubotuPurpleMotion: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:12
PurpleMotionerr thank you07:12
fabbionevitriol: probably the fix is past colony 307:12
vitriol:(07:12
fabbioneso either you dist-upgrade from the net07:12
vitrioli don't know a think about initrd's07:12
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aerudervitriol: can't you just use the old kernel/initrd ?07:13
vitriolaeruder: yeah but i wanted that new kernel07:13
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fabbioneor file a bug and jbailey will tell you what to do07:13
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PurpleMotionbrb07:13
vitriolaeruder: hoping it will fix my ati driver problems07:13
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aerudervitriol: well, you could always compile your own07:13
fabbionevitriol: we don't use initrd anymore. it's called initramfs.. a completely new thingy07:13
aerudervitriol: *shrug*07:13
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YDU_RH9Anyone tell me the default root password for the 5.04 live CD?07:13
fabbioneeven if they have the same file name in /boot07:13
vitriolaeruder: the last time i tried to compile my own on a debian based system it didn't go well (i've never built kernels before on systems that depended on an initrd07:13
aerudervitriol: there's nothing that depends on an initrd07:14
kirtisYDU_RH9, I think you just do sudo whatever and it lets you w/o a password07:14
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vitrioloh my mistake07:14
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aeruderjust compile your ide and filesystem drivers into the kernel07:14
YDU_RH9kirtis: Roger that mate. Ta.07:14
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hardw1redoes anyone know if there is an LG monitor driver file for linux?07:14
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aerudervitriol: everything else you can leave as modules, initrd is only used to dynamically load modules that are essential to actually mounting the root fs07:14
vitriolaeruder: oohh...so i just follow the typical make menuconfig;make;make modules_install steps ?07:14
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aerudervitriol: and if you do your own kernel, there is no need for an initrd07:15
vitriolsweet!07:15
aeruderwell, some of them boot with root=LABEL=/07:15
vitriolguess i'll try that then ;)07:15
aeruderthat would have to be changed to the actual device07:15
brennerhardw1re: why?  what probs are you having?07:15
aeruderbecause the initrd handles that too07:15
jmarkis there a way to change the default cd-player application in gnome? so that I can have goobox play my audio cd's instead of the default cd-player?07:15
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PurpleMotionoh well07:16
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brennerjmark: sys > prefs > removable07:16
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kirtisjmark, yea removable drives and media in system -> preferences.07:16
aerudervitriol: yep, just make sure you get your ide driver in and your root fs filesystem driver (ext3 or whatever)07:16
aeruderand just forget about the initrd ;)07:16
Ice9I have dma enabled, how come dvd playback is choppy with all the players?07:16
vitriolaeruder: ok...great07:16
redtechIm trying to add a new printer, but for some reason the only driver its showing now is Raw.  What did I break?07:16
jmarkkirtis: thanks, checking that now.07:16
aerudervitriol: there's a way to compile your own ubuntuized kernels too07:17
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dubniumis ubuntu supposed to be on ext3? cause im on ext2?07:17
brennerIce9: you *sure* you have it enabled?07:17
aerudervitriol: and actually have a .deb for it and install07:17
aerudervitriol: although i generally don't worry about it07:17
vitriolaeruder: is that easily explainable?07:17
vitriolok07:17
Ice9yea, it says its enabled07:17
aerudervitriol: no idea07:17
vitriolaeruder: i won't worry about it then07:17
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vitriolaeruder: i'm not in X right now so i have to go off of memory07:17
kirtisdubnium, It's probably ext3, some things won't recognize the journal and see it as ext207:17
thoreauputicdubnium: it shows as ext2 on boot - before the journal is started07:17
vitrioli've built a gazillion kernels on LFS and gentoo though so it's not a big deal07:17
brennerIce9: using hdparm -d ?07:18
aerudervitriol: i've never bothered to figure it out, i mean, if you name your kernel sanely in /boot,  and the modules will obviously go into /lib/modules/kernelver, it becomes rather simple to manually remove the kernel ;)07:18
dubniumwhen i set up my partition I may have selected ext207:18
jmarkkirtis: so I just change gnome-cd --unique --play --device %d to goobox --unique --play --device %d07:18
vitriolaeruder: true07:18
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Ice9brennder, yes07:18
Ice9brenner*07:18
brennerjmark: you'll have to check the syntax for the goobox command07:18
kirtisjmark, no, probably just goobox.  To see the options open up a terminal and do something like goobox --help and see what options it gives07:18
vitriolaeruder: thanks :) hopefully this will fix my system07:18
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aerudervitriol: cool, at least you gave me hope of being able to upgrade to breezy ;)07:19
GoClickDoes the amd64 iso work with the new Sempron 64 chips? the md5 of the disk was fine but it pooped installing initrd07:19
jmarkthanks brenner and kirtis07:19
hardw1reright reboot time07:19
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vitriolaeruder: i didn't get errors upgrading, it's just the kernel07:19
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aerudervitriol: yep, cool07:19
splatgdubnum: it shouldn't really matter, ext3 is just ext2 with journalling07:19
aerudervitriol: i generally grab the latest kernel all the time, so i was always too impatient to wait ;)07:20
locomortoGoClick: Just use the i386 edition07:20
locomortoGoClick: its less pain as well (me looks at macromedia)07:20
brennerIce9: dunno, but i'd double check to see if you're enabling on the right device07:21
GoClickWell that's less fun07:21
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jmarkit looks like it is just goobox --play07:21
GoClickHow am I supposed to take advantage of the 64bitty goodness? What if I need to calculate imploding stars or something07:21
aeruderdubnium: and it is ridiculously easy to change over to using ext3 if you are on ext207:21
aeruderthere are plenty of guides online about that07:21
aeruder(and vice versa)07:21
vitrioldid somebody say 64bit?07:22
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GoClickvitriol me07:22
vitriol:p07:22
vitriolGoClick: you need the amd64 install cd07:22
GoClickI've got it07:22
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GoClickit poopooed on me while installing initrd07:23
vitriolawww07:23
jmarkbrenner and kirtis: it looks like the only thing that needs to be removed is --unique07:23
vitriolGoClick: hoary?07:23
Madpilotsomeone please remind me what the command line for changing permissions is? not chown, but something else...?07:23
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aeruderMadpilot: chmod07:23
vitriolMadpilot: chmod07:23
jmarkMadpilot: chmod07:23
vitriolLOL07:23
vitriolone question 3 people answer07:23
Madpilotthanks everyone... :)07:23
NathanialHi I'm trying to make my Ubuntu pc into an FTP server, any easy to use software?07:23
locomortoGoClick: A sempron ain't for computing stuff07:24
vitriolNathanial: proftpd or vsftpd07:24
jmarkNathanial: apt-get install proftp07:24
locomortoGoClick: The diffrence is marginal anyway07:24
NathanialWhere will I find it after installation?07:24
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jmarkNathanial: oops forgot the d , proftpd07:24
GoClickvitriol Yeah07:24
vitriollocomorto: you're just jealous of our 64 bit floating point calculations!!07:24
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NathanialUh where will I find it under after installation? Is it like a program?07:25
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vitriolGoClick: if that happens while you are installing you need to file a bug report :( sorry to hear it's doing that to you07:25
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locomortoIts where i do all my hard core compilmation07:25
navynhello07:25
GoClickI may just have to do that07:25
GoClickAlthouhg I'm never a fan of using bugzilla07:25
vitriollocomorto: you using the 64bit ubuntu?07:25
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arbiri got the live cd running on my laptop.. but internet does seem to work. i see the network name in the drop down list and i join it.. but i am not able to acquire a dhcp... but if i boot the machine with XP it aquired DHCP perfectly and internet works well. what could i be doing wrong ?07:26
locomortovitrol: yes07:26
vitriolGoClick: you must be using some unusual hardware for that to happen...thats not a very common problem07:26
GoClickvitriol I tried to get the most stock hardware I could, it's an Asus board and a geforce maxtor hd07:27
vitriollocomorto: i just joined the 64 bit club a week ago07:27
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vitriol:)07:27
Klementaswhen I add the ubuntu-calendar packages, isn't that supposed to be some kind of wallpaper for Gnome ?07:27
GoClickpretty common stuff07:27
navynhey07:27
brennerlocomorto: i'm not that familiar with the amd line...is the sempron the equivalent of a celeron?07:27
locomortosort of07:27
GoClickYeah07:27
locomortoits a bit more powerfull though07:27
vitriolGoClick: what install cd are you using?07:27
vitriolx86?07:27
GoClickAMD6407:28
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jmarkNathanial:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#ftpserver has a section in it about getting an ftp server up and running07:28
GoClickubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso07:28
vitriolGoClick: i mean no insult...but you have an amd64 right?07:28
navynwaswas07:28
brennerlocomorto: but it's still "below" a regular amd?07:28
locomortoyes07:28
GoClickYeah it is07:28
brennerah ok07:28
GoClickOr so the box says07:28
GoClick754pin Sempron07:29
vitriolGoClick: ok. you can use the 386 or 686 install cd and see if those work07:29
vitriolGoClick: ahh!07:29
arbirnobody to help today ? :-(07:29
vitriolGoClick: there is your problem!07:29
Gattondoesn't it just have less cache?07:29
No1Vikinghelloyo, I have a problem regarding language. In X-chat and other few applications my swedish characters do not work. The odd thing is that it works in most of the others like openoffice etc. Any ideas what to do about it?07:29
vitriolGoClick: a sempron is not 64 bit07:29
vitriolGoClick: you need the 686 install cd07:29
GoClickvitriol the new ones are, this one even says it on the box07:29
vitriolGoClick: really? interesting07:29
vitriolGoClick: well the 686 install cd will work for you07:30
aeruderNo1Viking: define "do not work" and you'll get some more help07:30
vitriolGoClick: i've used the 686 cd on my turion07:30
NathanialI installed vsftpd07:30
arbirtest07:30
arbirtest07:30
GoClickBut then I've paid for 32bits I'm not using :P07:30
GattonGoClick, if the cpu is new the 64 bit version may not be designed to work with it yet?07:30
vitriollol07:30
Madpilotarbir: you are coming thru07:30
aeruderNo1Viking: do they not even type into the text prompt or don't send correctly or what?07:30
GoClickGatton could be :(07:30
GoClickOh well07:30
arbirthanks Madpilot07:30
Gattondepending on how different Sempron64 is from AMD6407:30
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arbiri am stuck and now i am scared to install Ubuntu on my laptop07:30
vitriolthat blows my mind07:30
No1VikingWell aeruder: I get other odd charachters instead of the ones I print07:30
vitriol...they're making 64 bit semprons now.....07:30
GoClickMostly it was just a way to get my boss to buy me a gig of ram tho too07:31
brennerarbir: define stuck07:31
aeruderNo1Viking: what other apps you have problems with?07:31
arbirMadpilot, can you help me?07:31
GoClickSempron 64 http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ned=&q=sempron+64&btnG=Search+News07:31
Madpilotneed a bit of CLI checking before I do something... to add user/write privs to a whole directory, it's going to be "chmod +R u+w", correct?07:31
No1VikingGaim and x-chat are the ones I know I have problems with07:31
jmarkarbir: what is the problem you are having?07:31
GoClickAlthough the first few links there are no good07:31
Madpilotarbir: I missed what your question was, sorry07:31
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GattonGoClick, cool. I don't know how i missed that07:32
epsdoes the ubuntu livecd provide a device.map from grub?07:32
aeruderNo1Viking: hrmmm... could be some sort of gtk2 issue07:32
arbiri got the live cd running on my laptop.. but internet does seem to work. i see the network name in the drop down list and i join it.. but i am not able to acquire a dhcp... but if i boot the machine with XP it aquired DHCP perfectly and internet works well. what could i be doing wrong ?07:32
No1Vikingaeruder, yeah might be, dunno07:33
jmarkarbir:the internet works  or doesn't work?07:33
arbirspecifying static is also not helping as i am unable to ping my gateway07:33
redtechIm trying to add a new printer, but for some reason the only driver its showing now is Raw.  What did I break?  *SOLVED*07:33
arbirno jmark it does not07:33
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Ice9yep, dma is definitely enabled, how come my dvd playback is still choppy?07:34
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brenner<arbir> .. "but internet does seem to work"...07:34
brenner:)07:34
brennerIce9: what player?07:34
jedixIce9: have support for your chipset?07:34
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Ice9vlc, mplayer, and xine07:34
jmarkdo you see eth0 when you do a ifconfig07:34
Ice9how do I check support for the chipset?07:34
arbirjmark, yeah07:35
arbiri even see that if i assign it a static ip, its properly assigned07:35
kirtisMadpilot, i think you want chmod -R u+rw dir07:35
jmarkarbir: well, what kinda dhcp server are you using?07:36
arbirbrenner, i am on my desktop now07:36
arbirjmark, i have a dlink router07:36
Madpilotkirtis: thanks, I went ahead and experimented, figured most of it out!07:36
jmarkme too, hehe07:36
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jmarkarbir: probably something setup wrong on the router07:37
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arbirjmark, if i boot with xp it works fine07:37
brennerredtech: well done...how'd you solve it?07:37
Ice9how do I check if I have support for my chipset?07:37
Gattonarbir, so you don't get an ip at all? you are 169.254.x.x?07:37
aeruderGatton: uh, what?07:38
jmarkarbir: yeah, i'm not sure07:38
arbirGatton, with dhcp enabled i dont get an ip at all07:38
jedixjesus07:38
arbirif i specify one.. its 192.168.5.11 subnet 255.255.255.007:38
Gattonarbir, when you boot the live cd...if you do ifconfig...you are getting what on eth0? 0.0.0.0?07:38
jedixI can't make it through an install without a kernel panic07:38
arbirGatton, no i only see IPv6 values there07:38
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SavantEdgehi, I need some help....07:39
Gattonarbir, are you able to see your router? i guess not if you get no ip though07:39
jedixcorrection, I can't make it through an install without many kernel panics.07:39
Gattondamn peculiar07:39
arbirno Gatton i cant ping anything at all :-()07:39
redtechbrenner, I made a mistake and changed the cups data directory in the cups.conf.  I should be slapped07:39
MadpilotSavantEdge: just ask your question; no need to ask to ask...07:39
aeruderwhat network card?07:39
arbirGatton, let me try to aquire DHCP again07:39
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Gattonarbir, maybe take eth0 down and back up. ifdown eth0  ifup eth007:40
arbiraeruder its the intel wireless card that comes with the dell inspiron 930007:40
brennerredtech: lol, well you fixed it didn't you?  it's all part of the learning experience. :)07:40
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arbirGatton, let me try that... let me go up and see what my laptop is upto07:40
arbirBRB in 2 ins07:40
arbirmins07:40
Gattonok07:40
BTJusticeI have a SB Live! 7.1 24bit sound card.  I used these directions (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307) to get it to work, but the sound is really choppy and scratchy.  How can I fix that in Kubuntu?07:41
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SavantEdgeWhen I download themes for GTK, where do they wind up?  They don't seem to automatically appear in Theme Preferences.07:41
Ice9how do I check if I have support for my chipset?07:41
kevin06I have some stupid questions for anyone familair with Webmin. Am I correct in assuming a Master Zone is equal to a domain? And that a "slave" zone is equal to a sub-domain?07:41
redtechbrenner, indeed07:41
brennerjedix: while you wait, search the forums for the errors you are getting07:42
kirtisSavantEdge, Depends, if it's a simple theme without a seperate engine you can usually install it from the theme selection place, otherwise you'll probably have to do the old ./configure; make; make install07:42
Ice9how do I check if I have support for my chipset?07:42
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brennerIce9: from the wiki: "Most systems newer than 3 years support DMA"07:43
jedixbrenner: I would, but I'm installing using a tv and can't see the exact text output.07:43
SavantEdgeWell, I got them with Synaptic...I don't know where it puts them though for me to browse through with Theme Preferences07:43
Ice9yes I know, I have dma enabled, according to everything07:44
Ice9I just don't get why everything is so choppy07:44
kirtisSavantEdge, Oh, well it's probably in /usr/share/themes/ but it should be showing up.. maybe a logout/login is required?07:44
syncronhi07:44
Ice9its not just dvds07:44
jedixIce9: check what modules are loaded07:44
Ice9like when I minimize a window or something07:44
jedixIce9: lsmod07:44
Ice9its choppy too07:44
GattonSavantEdge, maybe check ~/.themes?07:44
syncroni'm having some problems with accessing files in my ntfs partition...07:44
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brennerIce9: system specs?07:45
Ice9jedix, what am I looking for?07:45
jedixIce9: and are you using hardware acceleration in playback?07:45
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jedixIce9: sec07:45
BT_Justice.nick BTJustice07:45
Ice9brenner, its a p4 3.06 ghz, 3 gigs of ram07:45
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brennerIce9: heh, probably not a problem then07:45
SavantEdgeGatton, umm, ~ means /home, right?07:46
Gattonright. do you have a .themes in home?07:46
aerudercould someone please kickban Vedu-reklameris, he is using the channel for spam on exiting and entering07:46
brennerSavantEdge: /home/<username>07:46
Ice9yea, thats why this is driving me so crazy07:46
Ice9and it took me forever just to learn how to enable dma, and its not even the problem07:46
jedixIce9: see if generic something or other is loaded07:46
GattonSavantEdge, make that /home/username   but you probably figured that :-)07:46
SavantEdgeYeah07:46
brennersyncron: what problems?07:46
syncroni mounted my windows partition to /media/windows but when i try and play some mp3 files, they crash my media player07:47
SavantEdgeWell, nothing in ~/.themes, but there's stuff in /usr/shar/themes, so I'm fiddling with that now.07:47
brennersyncron: what media player?07:47
Ice9jedix, there's no generic anything07:47
syncronoh xmms and beep media player07:47
brennersyncron: have you changed the output plugin to esoudn or alsa yet?07:47
brenner*esound07:47
syncroni tried copying the files over to /home too07:48
syncronoh, no i haven't07:48
brennersyncron: it's a sound system "problem"07:48
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brennersyncron: lot of people experience it with those 2 programs07:48
umbotohey can someone kick the bot?07:48
brenneri.e. problem was xmms/bmp, not your partition07:48
aeruderhe's in the process07:48
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syncronic07:48
aeruderumboto: i'd give it 5 seconds07:48
aeruder;)07:49
umbotothat Vedu-reklameris  person is a bot07:49
umbotoadvertising crap07:49
umbotowhen i joined07:49
jedixfuck, this install won't complete07:49
aeruderumboto: yes, i know07:49
GoClickGrrrr so mad, I feel bad to because while I sit here now burning my 15th Linux CD in the last 2 days I KNOW it's costing a lot of money :P07:49
umbotook07:49
aeruderumboto: there are several people (including me) reporting him to staffers07:49
GoClickWe should have just bought a Dell :P07:49
aeruderhe'll be gone as soon as they setup the k-line ;)07:49
umbotohey um..anyone here having a problem with firefox?07:49
umbotofor some reason every other reboot, firefox won't display07:49
umbotoi just get a starting firefox on the taskbar07:50
aeruderumboto: run it on the console and see if any messages are printed07:50
umbotoand then it just exits07:50
No1VikingWhat to do to get daemons, that I dont need, to not load when I boot again?07:50
umbotoi tried07:50
brenneraeruder: weird, i haven't noticed him/her doing anything wrong. :-/07:50
aeruders/console/in a terminal/07:50
umbotoand it did nothing07:50
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SavantEdgeanother question, I'm trying to install a program which needs GTK+, which I thought was already installed by default on Ubuntu, but when I run ./configure, it reports its not.  Where can I get it?  (Program is gnome-mud-0.10.7, if it helps)07:50
GattonGoClick, what kind is it?07:50
aeruderbrenner: it is on join/part07:50
syncronwhere can i change the plugin? sorry i'm a new linux user07:50
brenneraeruder: when 'it' joins, parts?07:50
kirtisSavantEdge, you need the developer package..07:50
aeruderbrenner: no, when you join/part07:51
umbotoi tried running firefox in console with firefox %u07:51
aeruderit spams ya ;)07:51
brennersyncron: ctrl+p07:51
SavantEdgeah, ok07:51
SavantEdgethanks07:51
umbotoand it just likes thinks for a minute07:51
umbotothen goes to the next line07:51
umbotowith no errors07:51
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=== aeruder cheers
aeruder;)07:51
umbotoim like hmm07:51
Madpilotscratch one spammer...07:51
brenneraeruder: ah, ok. :)07:51
syncronk thanks07:51
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GoClickSo I'm getting fairly familiar with Linux installing I must say I hope Ubuntu doesn't start getting installer envy because for it's pretty face installing Fedora is no fun07:51
bjwanyone else getting this07:51
bjw"Launching HTTP Cleaner"07:52
Ice9anybody have any ideas why my video is so choppy? I have dma enabled07:52
bjwthing07:52
arbi2is back07:52
No1VikingAnother Q: What to do to get daemons, that I dont need, to not load when I boot next time?07:52
arbi2cant get my wireless networking to work07:52
thoreauputicumboto: just type "firefox" without the %u07:52
GoClickThe only thing I think I'd really like is some sort of thing to let me know it hasn't crashed, something spinny in the corner07:52
syncronme neither, what kind of wireless card do you have?07:52
umbotoi also tried that07:52
kirtisNo1Viking, cd /etc/rc2.d/ and rm the links that you don't want.  Or if you have breezy use services-admin07:52
umbotonothing07:52
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locomortoNo1Viking delete/move the script from /etc/init.d07:52
jmarkIce9: mine is too, not sure why, though i'm on a slow machine by todays standards07:52
umbotobut don't worry guys it only happens every other reboot07:52
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arbi2syncron, its the one that comes with the dell inspiron 9300. i think its an intel card07:53
umbotowhich i can't find out what causes it07:53
Ice9jmark I'm not...lol07:53
brennerNo1Viking: as in services?07:53
syncronah, i have an inspiron 600m07:53
No1Vikingbrenner: yes07:53
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fortyozHow do i make it so when my gf logs in with her username, everything is in spanish? the default system language is english07:53
umbotonext time ill just restart x instead of rebooting07:53
jmark<-- suffering from puter envy07:53
brennerNo1Viking: you can install rcconf or one of the other apps like it to easily disable/enable those07:53
arbi2syncron, the best part is.. it works well when i boot with XP07:53
arbi2syncron, and also in ubuntu.. i see the wireless network name07:54
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No1VikingTake the services away since I dont need, for ex postfix07:54
thoreauputic!bum07:54
ubotubum is probably a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html07:54
thoreauputicNo1Viking: ^^^ see ubotu07:54
arbi2syncron, but i cam unable to aquire a DHCP07:54
BTJusticeI need help with a SB Live! 7.1 24 bit sound card.  I used these instructions to get it to work (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307), but the sound is choppy and scratchy.  How can I fix this?07:54
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jedixdamnit07:55
jedixthis sucks, I can't get the installer to finish07:55
GoClickjedix where is it quitting?07:55
jedixand this is the computer with the cd burner so I can't burn another iso07:55
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ianhow long does it usually take to get GAIM updates into ubuntu?07:55
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arbi2test07:55
arbi2test07:55
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jedixGoClick: 16% of the grub install07:55
GoClickarbi2 we can see you07:55
jedixdetecting other operating systems07:56
GoClickjedix what kind of hardware?07:56
arbi2thanks .. i got kicked out and lost my arbir nickname07:56
GoClickDo you have any other OSes?07:56
jedixGoClick: amd64 sata drive07:56
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jedixI think the problem is that it sees the xfs partitions07:56
arbi2any idea if i can make my wireless card to work ?07:56
jedixbecause it crashed earlier when I tried to mount those in the partition section07:56
GoClickarbi2 do you have a driver disk?07:57
GoClickOr some sort of driver from the manufacturer?07:57
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arbi2arbi2, no.. i dont and GoClick Ubuntu has recognized my wireless card07:57
jedixGoClick: nope07:57
GoClickMy experiance so far with WiFi under Linux is that it's spotty at best if you don't have drivers directly from the manufacturer07:57
izette_How do I install an older kernel in ubuntu? 2.6 kernels break my Rio50007:57
jedixGoClick: two xfs partitions and two ext307:58
GoClickarbi2 what's it NOT doing then?07:58
arbi2if i can see the wireless network name in the drop down07:58
arbi2GoClick, its not able to ping my gateway07:58
arbi2i cant get to the net07:58
GoClickCan you get an IP from the DHCP server?07:58
brennerian: if you're talking about main, universe and multiverse, afaik, security updates only....not sure about backports and extras though07:58
arbi2dhcp does not aquire addy07:58
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jedixGoClick: maybe I can use a live cd to boot and debootstrap07:58
ianbrenner:  there's a remote crasher in 1.407:59
GoClickjedix that's an idea07:59
GoClickI'm not a grub expert so I won't be able to help with that persay07:59
GoClickI'd probably just install all over07:59
Ice9anybody have any ideas why my video is so choppy? I have dma enabled08:00
GoClickarbir by chance are you trying to use an open key in a shared key system?08:00
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Tom-Wplaying from hd or cd ?08:00
psuraniguys, i installed wget, now how to start it ?08:00
brennerian: what version is in bp?08:00
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arbi2GoClick, nothing like that.. i just got the router a couple of days back. its running totaly insecure08:00
GoClickpsurani wget http://wwww.example.com/file.ext08:00
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brennerpsurani: *chuckle*  you need to learn the syntax08:01
Gattontype wget lol08:01
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GoClickand it works under Windows right?08:01
psuraniGoClick, theres not GUI for wget ?08:01
Madpilotpsurani: "man wget" will get you the wget manual08:01
brennerpsurani: or you could use gwget2 for a very limited GUI interface08:01
GoClickwget isn't exactly a gui kinda thing08:01
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psuraniGoClick, , does wget support resume for downloading ? even if PC gets rebooted by mistake ?08:01
GoClickit just for downloading one or two files off http08:01
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GoClickpsurani HTTP does NOT support resume of any kind08:01
GoClickAtleast not vanila HTTP08:01
BTJusticeI need help with a SB Live! 7.1 24 bit sound card.  I used these instructions to get it to work (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307), but the sound is choppy and scratchy.  How can I fix this?08:02
psuraniGoClick, , in windows we have few download managers that support resume for both http and ftp ?08:02
thoreauputicGoClick: rubbish - wget -c will resume from a n aborted download08:02
GoClickyes but it's not part of the HTTP 1.1 spec08:02
Madpilotpsurani: I think firefox's dl manager supports resuming; I know that Opera's dl manager will08:02
brennerpsurani: in linux distros, we have many :)08:02
GoClickI refuse to support crazy crap like that08:02
GoClickIt defeats the point of standards08:02
ianbrenner: bp?  umm, I'm not sure, I'm using 1.4 and there's no option to upgrade08:02
brennerian: backports08:03
arbi2test08:03
arbi2test08:03
GoClickarbi2 you might wanna look into using the Network's nickserv08:03
izette_does ubuntu have something similiar to backports.org08:03
brenner!backports08:03
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section08:03
Madpilot!repos08:03
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ubotuhmm... repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:03
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psurani!uname -a08:04
ubotuI don't know, psurani08:04
brennerheh, bettter link :)08:04
arbi2GoClick, what is that08:04
Madpilotizette_: see the bottom of the AddingRepos page08:04
psurani!uname -a08:04
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PurpleMotionuname -a:08:04
PurpleMotionLinux psilocybin 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Fri Jun 24 17:33:34 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:04
GoClickarbi2 go /msg nickserv help08:04
Madpilotpsurani: you're not in a terminal windown, you know...08:04
psurani!uname -a08:04
ubotupsurani: Are you smoking crack?08:04
Madpilot*window08:04
psurani!uname -a08:04
thoreauputicpsurani: umm - why are you asking the bot to give kernel info?08:04
Tom-Wlol08:05
Gattonpsurani i think you want to type that in your terminal not here heh08:05
esc_apeanyone have the problem with gaim where it appears & then quickly disappears when you click on it?08:05
GoClickarbi2 it's great for killing your old ghosts once you get it figured out08:05
psuraniwho is ubotu ?08:05
thoreauputic!ubotu08:05
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:05
Madpilot!ubotu08:05
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Tom-W! cat /proc/pci :-)08:05
arbi2GoClick, yeah rigght...08:05
ubotuNo idea, Tom-W08:05
Gattonarbi2, if you're registered you can use a recover command to get your nick back08:05
arbi2is sleepy now08:05
odyssey23hey guys i'm looking at getting into ubuntu....08:05
Gattonhmmm i don't think i'm registered come to think of it08:05
arbi2cant figure out his wifi network08:05
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GoClickarbi2 what do you mean yeah right?08:05
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PurpleMotionnot registered08:06
PurpleMotionhow dare you08:06
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GoClickodyssey23 what are you wondering?08:06
esc_apeodyssey - I'm a new to ubuntu as well08:06
arbi2GoClick, i meant that i did see that today and i registered with a password08:06
odyssey23can anyone email me a user manual?08:06
arbi2GoClick, i need to do some more rtfm08:06
odyssey23hey esc_ape :")08:06
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arbi2GoClick, and right now. i am dead tired :-(08:06
Gattonhehe08:06
pauldaousthey, folks, you know those crappy new audio chipsets whose volume controls are entirely software-based (and thus are only supported with the Windows drivers)?08:06
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Gattonam now!08:06
Madpilotodyssey23: http://wiki.ubuntu/com - have a look around there08:06
pauldaousthas anyone devised a workaround for these chips so that you can control the mixing from Linux?08:06
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PurpleMotionMadpilot:  said http://www.ubuntu could not be found, please check the spelling and try again08:07
pauldaoustwow, that made everyone go real quiet ^_^08:07
odyssey23 i had it on me new (well bought a ebay comp... small but new for us lol) comp but couldnt work it out so i'm getting a full version off a distributer but i couldnt work out how to install a modem :(08:07
GoClickPurpleMotion I'll be sure to let the authorities know :P08:07
arbi2bye all08:07
Tom-Wis it like the ndisrapper driver for a soundcard?08:07
DekaPinkCan I set xchat to auto-accept file transfers? :308:07
PurpleMotionGoClick:  I got a number for them around here somewhere, holdon while i check08:07
BTJusticeI need help with a SB Live! 7.1 24 bit sound card.  I used these instructions to get it to work (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307), but the sound is choppy and scratchy.  How can I fix this?08:08
MadpilotPurpleMotion odyssey23: sorry, typo. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/08:08
brennerpauldaoust: if it helps, i've heard of the issue, search the wiki and forum while you wait08:08
pauldaousttom-W: I doubt there's anything like that; I think ALSA is a different fish from modem drivers... although I suspect it's not too hugely different.08:08
GoClickPurpleMotion isn't it 1-800-YAY-DMCA heh?08:08
odyssey23ohh thanx i'll look at that :)08:08
pauldaoustbrenner: thanks; I'll check it08:08
PurpleMotionbut considering the quality is less than tv (80mb per 42min episode) and the fact that im not distributing them, i would imagine they'll tell you to bugger off08:08
psuranigwget2 supports resume, even if PC reboots by mistake ????08:08
psurani!gwget208:08
ubotupsurani: Are you on ritalin?08:08
psurani!mad ?08:08
ubotuWish i knew, psurani08:09
brennerpsurani: depends on where the file is hosted08:09
pauldaousttom-W: I think these chipsets are a hack, their Win drivers are a hack, and... well, I'm looking for another hack from Linux ^_^08:09
Madpilotpsurani: if you've got it installed, go to a terminal and type "man gwget2"08:09
brennerpsurani: some sites disable resuming08:09
pauldaoust* for Linux, not from Linux08:09
crimsunBTJustice: did you try plughw:0,0?08:09
thoreauputicpsurani: search in synaptic for Downloader for X - you might be happier with that08:09
Gattonwhat? ubotu doesn't have the sum of all human knowledge? ;)08:09
odyssey23has anyone got the user manual/guide file they can send me so i can do some reading up on it also?08:09
psuranihow to make gwget a default dl manager ?08:09
thoreauputicpsurani: or just type  sudo apt-get install d4x08:10
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pauldaoustI'm all excited; I've been commissioned to deploy a Linux network for a local private school with a limited computer budget.08:10
BTJusticecrimsun, I never ehard of it but will try08:10
brennerodyssey23: all online afaik08:10
PurpleMotionGatton:  i was surprised at how little ubotu had...08:10
PurpleMotionubotu, tell Gatton about yourself08:10
odyssey23sorry?08:10
GattonPurpleMotion, i suppose it's up to us to add?08:10
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Gatton:-)08:10
PurpleMotionsure is08:10
jedixGoClick: my knoppix doesn't seem to support my hardware08:10
pauldaoust(well, maybe 'commissioned' is bending the truth... more like, I convinced the principal to try out Linux because it would cut down maintenance)08:10
crimsunBTJustice: are you using ALSA directly or arts/esound?08:10
BTJusticecrimsun: Where do I do that at? It doesn't work in the terminal.08:10
Madpilotodyssey23: there really isn't one user manual that's emailable. start at www.ubuntu.com and check around08:11
brennerodyssey23: there aren't any hard-copies of manuals/guides.08:11
jedixI'm back to trying to get ubuntu to take off the install cd08:11
BTJusticecrimsun: As far as I know ALSA08:11
GoClickWGET does support resume, it's that the resume methods aren't always supported by servers08:11
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: ubotu is still a young bot with much to learn ;)08:11
odyssey23ohh so the disc itself dosnt come with one?08:11
crimsunBTJustice: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*08:11
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  agreed08:11
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brennerpauldaoust: crimsun might now of your issue...he's the sound guru in here08:11
Madpilotodyssey23: there's a Ubuntu Help thing in the install, but the wiki and here are frankly better!08:11
brenner*know08:11
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Gattonodyssey23, i doubt it. the wiki and forums are very helpful08:11
pauldaoustbrenner: funky!08:11
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azriel0184is it possible to get something to run very early in the boot up procedure? (before mounting local file systems)08:12
Gattonubuntuguide helped me out a lot too but i don't know if that info is getting old?08:12
BTJusticekmix    8543 btjustice   10u   CHR  116,0      8588 /dev/snd/controlC008:12
SavantEdgeright, so I'm trying to do ./configure again after downloading some of the packages it mentions, and now it ends with this:08:12
SavantEdgechecking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes08:12
SavantEdgechecking for GMUD_CFLAGS...08:12
SavantEdgechecking for GMUD_LIBS...08:12
SavantEdgePackage libgnome-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.08:12
SavantEdgePerhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnome-2.0.pc'08:12
odyssey23ohh ok so sorry (i know i might sound simple) but wiki is a different version of ubuntu?08:12
SavantEdgeto the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable08:12
SavantEdgeNo package 'libgnome-2.0' found08:12
SavantEdgeconfigure: error: Package requirements (libgnome-2.0 >= 2.0.008:12
SavantEdge                        libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2.0.008:12
SavantEdge                        vte >= 0.10.2608:12
brennerSavantEdge: DON'T paste08:12
SavantEdge                        libglade-2.0 >= 2.0.1) were not met.08:12
SavantEdgeConsider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you08:12
pauldaoustcrimsun: are you familiar with the issue involving these stupid new audio chipsets and their stupid mixers, that seem to be controllable only by the Windows driver? it's almost like a winmodem for the sound world :)08:12
SavantEdgeinstalled software in a non-standard prefix.08:12
SavantEdgeAlternatively you may set the GMUD_CFLAGS and GMUD_LIBS environment variables08:12
SavantEdgeto avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for08:12
thoreauputic!lart SavantEdge08:12
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Madpilotodyssey23: no, the wiki is that URL I gave you earlier - wiki.ubuntu.com08:12
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SavantEdgemore details.08:12
SavantEdgeCould someone tell me what that means?08:12
PurpleMotionor08:13
crimsunpauldaoust: depends on the chipset and thus, driver08:13
odyssey23ohh k... loading it now... :)08:13
odyssey23brb08:13
MadpilotSavantEdge: it means that you need to use pastebin, please!08:13
PurpleMotionhttp://ubuntulinux.org/wiki08:13
PurpleMotionor08:13
SavantEdgewhats pastebin?08:13
Ice9"/usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: line 175: fakeroot: command not found"how do I fix that?08:13
Madpilot!paste08:13
PurpleMotionwww.ubuntu.com/wiki08:13
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:13
PurpleMotionor08:13
thoreauputicSavantEdge: given that you just spammed the channel, I doubt many people will want to help08:13
azriel0184is it possible to get something to run very early in the boot up procedure? (before mounting local file systems)08:13
PurpleMotionwiki8.ubuntulinux.org08:13
PurpleMotionerr08:13
PurpleMotionwiki.08:13
PurpleMotion!wiki08:13
pauldaoustcrimsun: ah. so some of these crappy new chipsets have ALSA drivers that software-control the volume?08:13
MadpilotPurpleMotion: one URL is probably enough... ;)08:13
odyssey23GREAT thanx... :)08:13
PurpleMotionMadpilot:  just being anally thorough08:14
odyssey23be back soon... i'll go have a look :")08:14
crimsunBTJustice: ok, so you're using ALSA directly. Try telling amarok to use alsasink device=plughw:0,008:14
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psuraniguys, how to install emule in ubuntu ?08:14
crimsunBTJustice: (presuming you're using the amarok-gstreamer engine)08:14
crimsunpauldaoust: certain ones are limited by hardware design, yes08:14
BTJusticecrimsun: How do I do that plese?08:14
GoClickwhen you install Ubuntu 5.04 what's the default root password?08:14
MadpilotGoClick: no such thing08:15
Madpilot!root08:15
ubotumethinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:15
PurpleMotionGoClick:  there isn't one, look what ubotu said08:15
MadpilotGoClick: see ubotu ^^^08:15
GoClicksounds good to me08:15
crimsunpauldaoust: where the underlying hardware supports multiopen and the manufacturer has provided specs, full hardware accel is available in the ALSA driver08:15
psurani!emule08:15
ubotupsurani: Bugger all, i dunno08:15
BTJusticeGreat lightning storm.  I'll probably lose my power.08:15
GoClickThis is a very good idea08:15
Gattonpsurani, try sudo apt-get install amule08:15
crimsunBTJustice: I presume you use Amarok?08:15
pauldaoustcrimsun: oh, so maybe the problem isn't in the chipsets; maybe it's in the driver, which could still be alpha?08:16
psuraniGatton, ahh thnx08:16
pauldaoustcrimsun: actually, I've disabled the sound card in the BIOS so I'd have an easier time installing and using a PCI sound card... so I can't go 'lspci' to find out what sorta chipset I have. I guess I'll have to wait another day ^_^08:16
odyssey23#08:16
odyssey23WartyWarthog - Version 4.10. Previous stable release; supported until April 2006. (BugTracking)08:16
odyssey23#08:16
odyssey23HoaryHedgehog - Version 5.04. Use this if you want the most stable Ubuntu system. (BugTracking)08:16
odyssey23#08:16
odyssey23BreezyBadger08:16
BTJusticeamaroK 1.208:16
odyssey23ohh crap sorry :(08:16
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Tom-Wemule is only win-32 so you would need wine08:16
pauldaoustcould try amule...08:16
Madpilot!+amule08:16
ubotuMadpilot: Not a clue08:16
crimsunpauldaoust: it depends on the chipset(s) - which are you wanting to use with Ubuntu?08:16
GoClickIs there an easy way to add more refresh rates to the resoltion configuration thingy?08:16
PurpleMotionubotu, emule is one of the lowest quality P2P programs available. People should take a look at LimeWire (http://www.LimeWire.Com), but if you MUST use eMule, the website is: http://www.emule-project.net08:17
ubotuokay, PurpleMotion08:17
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brenner!tell GoClick about fixres08:17
crimsunBTJustice: ok, do you have amarok-gstreamer installed?08:17
psurani!ubotu08:17
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/08:17
Gattonodyssey23, you are getting hoary 5.04 right?08:17
BTJusticecrimsun: Let me look.08:17
MadpilotPurpleMotion: there is amule for Gnome - I assume that uses the emule network things?08:17
PurpleMotionMadpilot:  it's the mule engine that sucks08:17
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PurpleMotionMadpilot:  limewire is 1000% better08:18
pauldaoustcrimsun: like I said, it looks like I disabled the onboard sound in the BIOS, so I can't find out :) guess I'll have to deal with it later.08:18
psuraniThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:18
psurani  amule: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable08:18
psurani         Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not installable08:18
psurani         Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.2.6) but it is not going to be installed08:18
psuraniE: Broken packages08:18
PurpleMotion!paste08:18
ubotupaste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:18
psuraniwhat to do in this case ?08:18
pauldaoust!wheeeeeeeee08:18
ubotupauldaoust: I give up, what is it?08:18
Madpilotpsurani: do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos installed?08:18
pauldaoustubotu: just trying to confuse you ,that's all ^_^08:18
ubotupauldaoust: Do they come in packets of five?08:18
_frankpsurani: did you install stuff from debian?08:18
PurpleMotionpsurani:  try: sudo apt-get -f install amule08:18
psuraniMadpilot, yeah08:18
pauldaoustubotu: only on Wednesdays.08:18
ubotupauldaoust: I don't know, could you explain it?08:18
pauldaoustubotu: nm08:19
ubotupauldaoust: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:19
Gattonpauldaoust, having fun? ;)08:19
thoreauputic!botabuse08:19
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.08:19
i4is there anyway to gleam someones ip from an instant messenger?08:19
BTJusticecrimsun: No it is not installed.  I ma installing it now.08:19
pauldaoustmy word... I'll quit while I'm behind ^_^08:19
psuraniPurpleMotion, , it didnt helped08:19
brennerthoreauputic: *thank* you, :)08:19
psuraninot from debian08:19
PurpleMotionpsurani:  dunno then. dont install from debian archives ;)08:19
psuranii m in ubuntu08:19
_frankpsurani: did you install stuff from non ubuntu repositories?08:19
pauldaoustGatton: immense amounts of fun. It's sad, though, because you can't say you're screwing with the bot's mind, because it doesn't have one.08:20
azriel0184is it possible to get something to run very early in the boot up procedure? (before mounting local file systems)08:20
psuraniyeah08:20
BTJusticecrimsun: Done.08:20
brenneranyway, too busy for my liking...later08:20
odyssey23gatton i donno? how do i do that my friend has the ubuntu free version he got posted to him08:20
crimsunBTJustice: now in the Engine preference for Amarok, make sure you have the gstreamer engine selected08:20
PurpleMotionodyssey23:  ubuntu is free.08:20
Madpilotpauldaoust: you can /msg ubotu <whatever> and have fun in private without being kicked from the channel...08:20
Madpilotodyssey23: Ubuntu is always free.08:20
pauldaoustMadpilot: okay, okay... I'm sorry; I've just never talked to a bot before so I got a little too excited.08:20
odyssey23i knw its great.. :")08:20
Gattonodyssey23, you can download the iso from ubuntulinux.org. I'm assuming that's what you want to do right?08:21
BTJusticecrimsun: The only one there is aRts Engine08:21
jedixokay08:21
odyssey23my friend was sent about 10 copies free to disrtubute so i'm going to get that cd off him..08:21
jedixthe install cd can't handle xfs it seems08:21
crimsunBTJustice: is there a blank selection? The gstreamer engine is mistitled08:21
Gattonodyssey23, got it. yea they send out free cds. so you don't have it yet?08:22
odyssey23its on another machine and well wehn i had it on i couldnt get the modem to work... so i put fedora core and that confused me more so i'm going back to ubuntu as i would reslly like to go linux08:22
odyssey23as microsoft are scammers08:22
PurpleMotionubotu, start an editor war08:22
ubotukate is better than xemacs08:22
BTJusticecrimsun: I have it on the list now and selected.08:22
crimsunjedix: in what way? It detected my XFS partitions just fine.08:22
odyssey23will get it tonight08:22
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PurpleMotionis emacs ever better than anything?08:22
Tom-Wvi08:23
PurpleMotionI can't imagine it being worse than vi08:23
PurpleMotionheh08:23
jedixcrimsun: it fails to mount my xfs partitions and throws an oops08:23
Gattonemacs is better than papyrus and a sharp rock08:23
IronMan_viw is better08:23
crimsunjedix: Hoary?08:23
odyssey23gatton: so is the one you mentioned on that cd?08:23
Tom-Wtry Xemacs08:23
MadpilotPurpleMotion: check the syntax of that ubotu command... ;) emacs only appears in the right-and side of the "is better than" line...08:23
jedixcrimsun: I think so08:23
crimsunBTJustice: ok, now choose customsink, and in it, type: alsasink device=plughw:0,008:24
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PurpleMotionhow do you check the syntax?08:24
Madpilot!list08:24
ubotuwell, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:24
Gattonodyssey23, depends on how old it is. if he received it recently it should have hoary 5.04 on it which is what most of us are using08:24
i4would it be strange to have port 631 open on my computer if i do not have a printer installed?08:24
Gattonit's the latest stable release08:24
MadpilotPurpleMotion: ^^^ it's searchable, just search for editor or something08:24
crimsunjedix: what does the kernel log say? (alt+F[34] )08:24
odyssey23and easier to use?08:24
Gattonodyssey23, 5.04 = april 2005 as you might have guessed08:24
Gattonodyssey23, i think it's just about the easiest linux i've ever used08:25
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Chousukei4: not if you have the printer server installed.08:25
odyssey23ok great...thats my cup of tea lol08:25
Gattoni was using suse 9.2 before ubuntu and that was a very nice distro also08:25
thoreauputici4: no - it's just listening on the loopback interface08:25
Gattonodyssey23, i hope you don't have any modem issues. i had no hardware troubles at all when i installed. everything worked.08:25
BTJusticecrimsun: I only have osssink, autoaudiosink, gconfaudiosink, and nassink.08:25
Madpilotodyssey23: the download page is here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/08:25
odyssey23if he has an older version do the newer ones (waiting for that in the mail) update automatic?08:25
jedixcrimsun: I just rebooted to try amd64 install08:25
Gattoni had a few glitches but between the wiki, forums and this channel everything got worked out08:26
jedixthat worked before08:26
thoreauputici4: it isn't open from outside, in other words08:26
jedixbut I don't want to run 6408:26
Gattonodyssey23, not auto but you can upgrade the whole distro i believe08:26
odyssey23well to be honest i couldnt even work out how to install a modem *blush*08:26
Gattonodyssey23, understandable. linux isn't always forgiving when things don't work08:26
odyssey23ok :)08:26
crimsunBTJustice: you can use gconfaudiosink. Be sure you configure that, though, using gstreamer-properties.08:26
odyssey23i fell a lil better lol08:27
Gattonodyssey23, one nice thing is that if you get a hold of the live cd you can test everything before you install08:27
odyssey23but to give it credit i didnt spend much time with it... got a little "i cant do this" and bummed out too soon :)08:27
BTJusticecrimsun: IF I select that, how do I get to gstreamer-properties?08:27
odyssey23yeh? that would be much better for me08:27
crimsunBTJustice: execute it from a Konsole08:27
odyssey23get warmed to it before i dive in... thats a good idea!:)08:28
Madpilotbe back in a bit, I've got to shut down to plug a hard drive in... first downtime in 10 days... :(08:28
PurpleMotionMadpilot:  how would i teach it one of those? i try to and it says "What are yout alking about?"08:28
Gattonodyssey23, yea you can boot the cd and it will detect all your hardware. you can go online etc all running from cd. no installation08:28
Madpilotodyssey23: some stuff that worked after install didn't work on the LiveCD for me - it's not perfect, but it's very very good08:28
crimsunBTJustice: ('gnome-media' package)08:28
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BTJusticecrimsun: I use Kubuntu with Gnome.08:28
MadpilotPurpleMotion: "ubotu <something> is <blurb about something>"08:28
odyssey23ohh ok...thanx for that madpilot :")08:29
BTJusticecrimsun: I use Kubuntu without Gnome.08:29
crimsunBTJustice: otherwise, you can also test using aplay: aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/foo.wav08:29
thoreauputicPurpleMotion:  ubotu <keyword> is <explanation or link>08:29
PurpleMotionyeah i got that, holdon08:29
odyssey23thats a reall good idea... ok another question is:08:29
Madpilotbe back in a bit...08:29
odyssey23my comp is 6 gig HDD, 450mz , pentium II and 205 mb ram... will it work on that?08:30
thoreauputicodyssey23: yes08:30
odyssey23(i know stone age size comp lol... all we could afford)08:30
psuraniguys, i lost my sources.list data :( what to do now ?08:30
Gattonodyssey23, it won't be a speed demon but it will work. ubuntu is one cd install so it's not huge08:30
aeruderodyssey23: it'll work great08:30
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Gattonodyssey23, i haven't tried it on older hardware but so far what i've heard has been positive08:30
odyssey23even with the extra packages?08:30
thoreauputicodyssey23: I got ubuntu installed on a pentium 200mmx 64MB RAM :)08:30
PurpleMotion!start a distro war08:31
ubotuhmm... start a distro war is ubuntu is better than suse08:31
Gattonodyssey23, you mean the extras cd? or packages from apt-get?08:31
PurpleMotionhrmm08:31
odyssey23what size HDD?08:31
BTJusticecrimsun: /usr/share/sounds/foo.wav: No such file or directory08:31
PurpleMotionill fix it08:31
aeruderodyssey23: you won't be able to install every package of course08:31
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psuraniexit08:31
aeruderodyssey23: but 6 gigs is more than enough08:31
crimsunBTJustice: foo is a placeholder for a real filename08:31
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Gattonpsurani i will miss you08:31
thoreauputicodyssey23: that computer has enough space and RAM - it won't be fast but OK08:31
PurpleMotion!start a distro war08:31
ubotuPurpleMotion: I don't know08:31
odyssey23i mean the basics... programs to burn cd's, office, photo upload ummm webdesign08:31
PurpleMotiondamnit08:31
thoreauputicodyssey23: sure08:32
aeruderodyssey23: yea, you shouldn't have any problem, might get a bit tight on the disk space depending on how much you use in your home dir08:32
odyssey23its gotta be better then win98 on a 2 gig and god knows what ram etc lol08:32
azriel0184is it possible to get something to run very early in the boot up procedure? (before mounting local file systems)08:32
BTJusticecrimsun: It played, but it is really scratchy and poppy08:32
crimsunazriel0184: where would the data originate, from the initramfs/initrd?08:32
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ColonelKernelanythings better than win98 on a 2g08:32
crimsunBTJustice: try ALSA 1.0.10rc1, then08:32
odyssey23yeh tight on space huh?...mmm how come i have all that on a 2 gig with win 98 and still have like a gig left?08:33
crimsunBTJustice: you'll need to do a cvs checkout of alsa-driver08:33
aeruderColonelKernel: when i set up my partitions, i setup winxp, win2k and win98 with 2.5 gig parts08:33
odyssey23lol my point :P08:33
aeruderColonelKernel: it wasn't pretty :)08:33
azriel0184from /sbin08:33
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crimsunazriel0184: if you haven't mounted /, how are you supposed to grab something from /sbin ?08:33
BTJusticecrimsun: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Live+7.1.&chip=SB0410%2C+P17&module=ca010608:33
BTJustice???08:33
logical_markHey guys. Ubuntu modified my master boot record to use grub as my boot loader. How do I tell grub I want windows xp to start at the end of the countdown and not ubuntu08:34
thoreauputic!distrowar08:34
ubotuubuntu is better than yggdrasil!08:34
PurpleMotionthere08:34
Gattonbwahahaha08:34
crimsunBTJustice: what about that?08:34
PurpleMotion!start a distro war08:34
ubotuubuntu rules over suse08:34
Gattoni like that one08:34
aeruderlogical_mark: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst08:34
logical_markthanks aeruder08:34
BTJusticecrimsun: Is that how to do it?08:34
pauldaoustguys, you're totally abusing the bot08:34
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PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  look how i built that08:34
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pauldaoust*sardonic laugh* and you guys said I was gonna get kicked :)08:34
crimsunBTJustice: I don't know, I'm not at a browser08:34
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/?q=war&b=Find+B08:34
BTJusticecrimsun: Ok, thanks for your help.08:34
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: I used <reply>08:34
crimsunBTJustice: you can search the Ubuntu forum for ALSA cvs instructions08:35
odyssey23aeruder: yeh tight on space huh?...mmm how come i have all that on a 2 gig with win 98 and still have like a gig left?08:35
azriel0184crimsun, is there a way to run something just after mounting / and before mounting other partitions?08:35
PurpleMotionthoreauputic:  every time you type it though, it can put something else08:35
aeruderodyssey23: the win98 one was fine08:35
thoreauputicPurpleMotion: right08:35
Gattonyggdrasil? who is the old timer? ;-)08:35
aeruderodyssey23: the winxp one was not ;)08:35
crimsunazriel0184: what are you trying to do?08:35
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odyssey23lol08:36
thoreauputicGatton: I was making it diplomatic ;)08:36
logical_markthat should do it aeruder thanks again08:36
Gattonthoreauputic, you are way too nice. You know you wanted to put Gentoo instead ;-)08:36
thoreauputicGatton: hahahah !08:36
thoreauputic:D08:36
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azriel0184crimsun, well, md is not making /dev/md0 before it is trying to mount it as my /home08:36
odyssey23ok guys i'm gonna have to run now.... THANX HEAPS to ALL who helped!!! :")... i'll get back to you prolly 2omoro with the "how'd we go" info ;)08:37
jedixI really wish I could find my debian cd08:37
azriel0184so i need to run mdrun to make the devices08:37
Gattonodyssey23, please come back and let us know how it goes!08:37
crimsunazriel0184: that's a known problem with the current initramfs config for Breezy -- or are you referring to Hoary?08:37
Ice9how do I find out what kernel I have?08:37
Gattonuname -a08:37
odyssey23yeh for sure you guys are a: friednly plus b: super helpful and c: too ncie :")08:37
crimsunazriel0184: there's a workaround for Hoary; you can check the forum08:37
odyssey23friendly even lol08:38
azriel0184crimsun, i am on hoary08:38
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Gattonmust...get...sleep08:38
odyssey23\ok.. byee all.. :")08:38
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Gattonnight for me too08:38
azriel0184ok, il check the forum. i was having a look around on the wiki, but couldnt find anything... specially since my dialup is not the best for downloading updates on...08:38
PurpleMotion!start an op war08:39
ubotuPurpleMotion: I don't know08:39
PurpleMotionbs08:39
c0rrupt_Lol08:39
c0rrupt_o.008:39
c0rrupt_is this freenode?08:39
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cafuego!start an op war08:39
ubotuOPS! cafuego IS ABUSING THE BOT!08:39
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lmurillohello08:40
cafuegohey ho08:40
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pauldaoustnow that is funny.08:40
PurpleMotionyou rewrote it?08:40
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PurpleMotioni was gonna have it say (any|op) is much cooler than Amaranth08:40
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lmurillohmm, why doesn't the .xsession that I have in ~ get executed everytime I start my session?08:40
PurpleMotion!start an op war created by PurpleMotion!n=jay@cpe-24-26-139-222.columbus.res.rr.com on 20 Aug 2005 16:3908:41
PurpleMotionrequested 0 times08:41
PurpleMotion<reply> (bob2|Seveas) is much cooler than Amaranth!08:41
ubotuPurpleMotion: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about08:41
PurpleMotionnevermind, ubotu08:41
cafuegoPurpleMotion: That would trigger their  hilight and be irritating08:41
PurpleMotionoh ok08:41
_c0rrupt_saslepuss08:41
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pauldaoustcrimsun: hm, this is weird... it appears that my (other) machine that I'm having volume control problems with is just using the generic intel-8x0 driver. It's a SiS 760GX mobo, if that helps.08:42
crimsunpauldaoust: what sort of volume control problems?08:42
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nigeello08:43
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Madpilotam back - stupid hard drive. thank dog it's just an extra I need to clean up & reformat...08:43
pauldaoustbasically the volume has a span of 0 and 100%, without anything in between. I've seen this problem on a few mobos already, including my KT400 mobo.08:43
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pauldaoustcrimsun: if I use the volume control applet, for instance, nothing changes until I get down to 0, and then it's silent.08:44
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pefhello08:44
crimsunpauldaoust: which ac97 codec?08:45
pauldaoustcrimsun: hmmm... one sec08:45
cafuegoa KT400 uses via82cxxx08:45
crimsuncafuego: for IDE?08:45
pauldaoustcafuego: sounds familiar. I've got my onboard sound disabled right now, though, so I can't check ^_^08:45
cafuegocrimsun: the sound chip is called the same thing08:46
SavantEdgelaters, and sorry08:46
crimsun(+ "_audio" for sound)08:46
cafuegocrimsun: via82cxx (ide) and via82cxx_audio (sound)08:46
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azriel0184!forums08:46
No1Viking!forums08:46
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crimsundepending on the ac97 codec, it may need to use softvol from alsa-lib08:47
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pauldaoustcrimsun: there's such a thing?!?!? wow!08:47
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odyssey23lol.... one more question :)08:47
pauldaoustcrimsun: that's exactly what I'm looking for.08:47
odyssey23which version/type do i need08:47
odyssey23intel/X8608:48
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pauldaoustcrimsun: so exactly where would I find out the codec it's using? would that be the name of the module it's auto-loaded?08:48
crimsunpauldaoust: yes, it was released as part of alsa-lib 1.0.8. There's documentation (albeit sketchy) on the alsa-lib Web site.08:48
odyssey23amd 64?08:48
crimsunpauldaoust: cat /proc/asound/cards08:48
PurpleMotionhow do you add yourself to a workgroupt hat contains spaces in the name?08:49
pauldaoustcrimsun: ah, gotcha. It uses SiS SI7012, but I know that this same codec worked fine with hardware volume on my old mobo. /proc/asound/cards also mentions a CMI9761, however.08:49
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psuraniguys, can anyone help, i have unbuntu installed and now i wanna install mandrake 10.1 also, how to configure grub for ubuntu then ? and using which commands ?08:50
odyssey23sorry guys does anyone know which one i should order the intel/X86 or the AMD64 version of ubuntu?08:50
odyssey23or powePC?08:51
pauldaoustodyssey23: why not a couple of each?08:51
crimsunpauldaoust: the sis7012 is fine and does not need softvol. The cmi9761 does.08:51
stizonerodyssey23,  whats your computer?08:51
odyssey23but i dont wonna rip them of kinda thing if the discs will only end up sitting there is that bad?08:51
odyssey23a compaq deskpro pentuim II, 6gig, 205 ram08:51
crimsunpauldaoust: alternately, paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl for the computer(s) for which you're having volume problems08:51
pauldaoustodyssey23: you'll always bump into someone with an AMD64 computer that you can give the CD to. Think of it as Ubuntu evangelism; that's why they're giving the CDs away anyway.08:52
stizonerintel/X8608:52
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odyssey23ok... thanx guys... your right paul and thanx stizoner :")08:52
nigei need to setup my startup scipts so that it runs the wpa config08:53
nigewhen i start linux08:53
odyssey23better run have to pick up my lil bro.. running late lol... sure he wont mind the extra fishing time ;)08:53
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i4what is the quickest way to logoff a user o your computer?08:53
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nigewelll so it loads the settings in so i dont to get it manuall?08:53
pauldaoustcrimsun: actually, you've helped me out a huge amount. (incidentally, the Hoary CD didn't support my audio chipset out of the box; maybe I should file a bug report)08:53
aeruderi4: kill their shell08:53
pauldaoustcrimsun: I think I can take it from here... do a bit of research into that whole softvol thingy.08:53
ntldris there a hardware monitor similar to MBM5 on windows, that works on debian?08:54
pauldaoustntldr: sorta... you can use gkrellm08:54
crimsunpauldaoust: keep in mind there's also an issue with sis7012 and cmi9761 for versions of ALSA prior to 1.0.9 in which you need to mute 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' to hear anything08:54
ntldrthanks pauldaoust08:55
pauldaoustntldr: xsensors is a very rudimentary sort of thing, and it only monitors your mobo temp/RPM sensors08:55
aeruderi4: something along the lines of kill -KILL `pgrep -u username`08:55
aeruderi4: would do the trick nicely ;)08:55
ntldraha08:55
pauldaoustntldr: but it's a good quick way to check how hot you're running.08:55
aeruderkill -9 would probably be better08:55
aerudersome kill versions don't take the name iirc08:55
ntldrok, thanks08:55
Madpilotntldr: ksensors is a bit nicer that xsensors - but they both need lm-sensors for data08:56
Madpilotsee the forum for setup info08:56
stizoneranyone know of a 686 optimized build firefox thats a .deb so i can actually install it i think, im trying 2 sqeeze every last bit of performance out of it because its pothetic compaired to windows, yes i disable the ipv6 and turned on pipelining08:56
pauldaoustcrimsun: ohhhh! is that why I couldn't hear anything. I eventually installed Alsa 1.0.9 off my mobo vendor's website, and not without a lot of wrestling with the installation of linux-image et al08:56
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pauldaoustif only I'da known...08:56
i4aeruder: what if i just wanted to drop a particuliar ssh connection, like if this user was logged in twice?08:56
gjrcant get firefox to play ram files or display pdf, can anyone lend a hand????08:57
No1VikingQuestion: How do I get write permissons to my S-ATA disks containing NTFS?08:57
ntldrhmm, Intel active monitor installed some SMBus drivers on win. Do I need such drivers in linux too?08:57
aeruderi4: figure out what their shell is and destroy it ;)08:58
No1Vikinggjr: install ralaudio08:58
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thoreauputicNo1Viking: writing to ntfs isn't supported08:58
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aeruderi4: who command will tell you what terminal they are on08:58
No1Vikinggjr: install realaudio08:58
gjrnolvik: have installed real aud08:58
pauldaoustntldr: possibly. but you'll probably be okay just installing the lm-sensors package from the repository08:58
No1VikingOk, thank thoreauputic08:58
ntldrOK08:58
aeruderps aux | grep ttyname will get you processes on that tty08:58
gjrnot sure how to get plugins in firefox08:58
TraceGreenHello, when i run locale, error:locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory08:59
No1Vikinggjr: installed w32codecs?08:59
aeruderi4: kill their login shell :)08:59
stizonersame as you do in windows gjr08:59
TraceGreencan anybody helpme? i try to reinstall glibc but now some problem happen.08:59
Madpilotntldr: there are smbus drivers in linux already; lm-sensors includes a setup script to get it all configured08:59
stizonerwait you said plugins not extensions, nevermind08:59
gjrnever had to in win, browser realized it needed them and installed them08:59
pauldaoustntldr: see, Madpilot knows what he's talking about... more than I do, anyway08:59
ntldrthanks to both of you :)09:00
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cyphase:)09:00
cyphasewow09:00
gjrnolvik: yes codecs installed09:00
cyphasewow09:00
cyphasewow09:00
cyphasewow09:00
cyphasewow09:00
cyphaseok09:00
c0rrupt_wow09:00
c0rrupt_stufu09:00
cyphase:)09:00
c0rrupt_=)09:00
No1Vikinggjr: then  I have no idea09:00
cyphaseit's great though09:00
cyphasei haven't even finished yet09:00
No1Vikingsorry09:00
Madpilotntldr: no problem - I'm just searching the Ubuntu forums for the howto I used to get my sensors running & displayed09:00
aeruderMadpilot: run sensors-detect09:00
gjrnolvik: that s ok, know how it is.09:00
stizonerporn codecs should be easyier to install then they are09:01
c0rrupt_Lol09:01
stizonerwoops i mean wincodecs*09:01
gjrany1 else???09:01
c0rrupt_hah09:01
aeruderfollow the instructions and then  get a sensors program09:01
c0rrupt_apt-get install pr0n09:01
Madpilotaeruder: thanks, that's what I was trying to think of...09:01
aeruderi'd recommend gkrellm09:01
c0rrupt_apt-get install porn-essentials09:01
ntldrlol09:01
No1VikingLOL09:02
thoreauputic!info pornview09:02
ubotupornview: (Image and movie viewer/manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.2pre1-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 224 kB, Installed size: 676 kB09:02
thoreauputic:D09:02
c0rrupt_o.009:02
gjrQUESTION: cant get firefox to play ram files or display pdf, can anyone lend a hand????09:02
c0rrupt_=-o09:02
aeruderc0rrupt_: http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ja2morri/porn-get/ -- .deb's there09:02
stizoneri have 500gb download stats on empornium bittorrent site, i have issues09:02
aeruder;)09:02
c0rrupt_lmfao09:02
robotgeekgjr: i use evince for pdf display, works wonderfully well...reading a pdf within browser as i speak09:02
cyphaseanyone here tried breezy colony 3 yet?09:03
c0rrupt_i already fucked over apt-get once09:03
aeruderc0rrupt_: nah, porn-get is just a hack someone threw together to download porn09:03
c0rrupt_lol09:03
aeruderbasically big set of urls and you can download them with porn-get ;)09:03
gjrrobot: is evince installed by deflt?  I can read pdf from the desktop.09:03
c0rrupt_oh09:03
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c0rrupt_lmao09:03
aeruderc0rrupt_: one sec09:03
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broncohow can I modify xorg.conf when I'm just in the command prompt?09:04
robotgeekgjr: nope, u'll have to install evince . and please use my full name, it doesn't hilight otherwise!09:04
cyphaseno one? hmm..09:04
aeruderhttp://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ -- c0rrupt_ that is the main site09:04
i4can someone tell me what pts/1,2,3, etc are?09:04
esc_apeok dumb question...how do you disable the fade effect when you minimize windows?09:04
MrGardenHoseManbronco: pico xorg.conf09:04
gjrrobotgeek: ok I will give evince a try, is it in the deflt repo's?09:04
thoreauputicbronco: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:04
aeruderi4: psuedo terminals09:04
c0rrupt_no config file09:05
robotgeek!info evince09:05
stizonerwtf, lol @ lesbian debian09:05
ubotuevince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB09:05
robotgeekgjr: it's in universe09:05
aeruderi4: they are created by programs like sshd, screen, etc...09:05
i4aeruder: how do i find out what their process or job id's are?09:05
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aeruderi4: i told you ps aux | grep pts/509:05
cyphaseevince is good09:05
gjrrobotgeek: thx will give it a try.  Any id on ram files???09:05
aeruderi4: that will tell you what programs are running on that tty09:05
TraceGreenHello, can anybody help me? when i run locale: locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory09:05
MadpilotEvince is much nicer than xpdf...09:05
robotgeekgjr: i dont use realplayer much, sorry09:06
TraceGreenBecause i try to reinstall libc609:06
Madpilotgjr: Real Media? w32codecs09:06
Madpilot!info w32codec09:06
thoreauputicMadpilot: that sounded like an ubotu !start a pdf viewer war  ;)09:06
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gjrmadpilot: have w32 codecs, but ffx wont play, can play files if I have them on mac09:06
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aeruderi'm guessing i4 just killed his own login shell09:06
aeruderheh09:06
Madpilotthoreauputic: what's to war about? Evince is a fair bit more polished... ;)09:07
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Madpilotthoreauputic: good idea for a new command for ubotu, though! :)09:07
thoreauputicMadpilot: I like xpdf! let's have a war!09:07
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thoreauputic;)09:07
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h08817how do u install macromedia flash player for firefox?09:08
aeruderh08817: click the little missing plugin box that pops down and click install09:08
thoreauputic!flash09:08
ubotuflash is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:08
stizoneroh thats a scam porn-get is no longer maintained09:08
gjraeruder: what if no little plug in box comes up when plugin is missing?09:09
h08817aeruder, i tried that and it says it is doing it but no progress is showing09:09
aerudergjr: uh, i've never had a problem with that09:09
Madpilotubotu tell gjr about flash09:09
dale_gribblemine does the same thing09:09
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gjraeruder:  have that issue with ram and pdf - installing evince right now09:10
aeruderpdfs aren't embedded into webpages09:10
aeruderthere's a difference ;)09:10
gjraeruder:  ahh -still thought there was a pdf plug-in.  What about ram files?09:11
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aerudergjr: depends how they are linked09:11
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h08817well i just tried that link09:11
aeruderhaving a plugin being available does not in any way mean that it is necessary09:12
h08817will it work in firefox now09:12
gjraeruder:  such as?09:12
gjraeruder:  how can I tell how it is linked?09:12
aerudergjr: whether it is a straight link or actually embedded into the webpage (in a correct manner)09:12
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thechitowncubssMy ubuntu desktop just locked up and i can still move the mouse, what does that mean.09:13
thechitowncubssI can't CTRL F2 or CTRL ALT BKSP or anything09:13
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stizonermine just did that lil bit ago, pull the power09:13
thechitowncubssany advice?09:13
aeruderthechitowncubss: i'm guessing that means that you're hosed :)09:13
h08817hey i got this after i installed it09:13
robotgeekthechitowncubss: just switch to a console if that's possible09:14
thechitowncubssi thought linux wasn't ever supposed to completely shit out09:14
thechitowncubssisnt it _stable_?09:14
i4is anyone else haviong trouble with backports?09:14
h08817install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz09:14
aeruderthechitowncubss: X is remarkably good at making linux crap out on some video cards09:14
h08817how do i extract it and install it?09:14
thechitowncubssgod damnit09:14
f_newtonbob2 are you for real or a bot?09:14
aeruderthechitowncubss: the linux kernel is quite stable09:14
Madpilotthechitowncubss: you can still move your mouse and use your keyboard, right? Windows would already be locked up hard!09:14
gjraeruder:  how can I tell how it is linked?  shows up as https://..../file.ram09:14
thoreauputicthechitowncubss: it's X that's frozen - if you can ssh in you might be able to kill it09:14
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ntldrwould ksensors run on gnome?09:14
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aeruderthechitowncubss: try sshing to your box09:15
thoreauputicyup09:15
Madpilotntldr: of course. I'm running it right now09:15
ntldrok09:15
thechitowncubsswhat process should i kill?09:15
aeruderX09:15
f_newtonthoreauputic, you probably would know... why is there a user acct on every installation of ubuntu Ive done with an unknown password ?09:15
aeruderkillall -KILL X09:15
thechitowncubssyipee09:16
aeruderor something like that :)09:16
thechitowncubssnow what lol09:16
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thoreauputicf_newton: erm...unknown password?09:16
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f_newtonacct = nobody passwd = unknown09:16
Madpilotthechitowncubss: startx I'm pretty sure - to restart X09:16
aeruderthechitowncubss: linux still has problems with X drivers since of course the drivers have full access to the hardware09:16
thoreauputicf_newton: ah - don't worry about that it's normal :)09:16
f_newtonyeah well what is it?09:17
aeruderthechitowncubss: you can be sure that the base linux kernel is pretty much stable as a rock09:17
thoreauputicf_newton: some things have to run as "nobody"09:17
aeruderbut if you were really going for stability, you wouldn't be using X ;)09:17
thechitowncubsswell what the hell is wrong with X?09:17
aeruderthechitowncubss: what?09:17
aeruderthechitowncubss: first off, what video card are you using?09:17
xliu__i installed gnome first and then installed KDE. However, some Chinese characters which are displayed correctly in gnome are shown as periods ".", what's wrong?09:17
f_newtonif users can sudo in to root with their user password who is nobody and what are the privileges?09:17
thechitowncubssNvidia 560009:17
aeruderthechitowncubss: nvidia?09:17
aeruderwell, those are closed source drivers09:17
aeruderX has no control what the heck those things are doing09:17
thechitowncubssoh so its the drivers problem?09:18
thoreauputicf_newton: "nobody" is just a construct - not an actual user09:18
aeruderthechitowncubss: so more than likely you can take it up with nvidia, that's the price you pay for using non open source drivers09:18
h08817what is the command to extract something?09:18
Madpilotf_newton: I think user "nobody" has no privs at all - but I'm not certain09:18
aeruderthechitowncubss: a kernel hacker wouldn't even consider your problem a problem09:18
h08817if it is a .tar09:18
f_newtonok it cannot be exploited by an outside individual?09:18
cyphasewow..09:18
thoreauputicf_newton: and only the first user has sudo powers by default09:18
aeruderloading a closed source driver means that your kernel is "tainted" and will show up as thus in the logs09:18
h08817.tar.gz09:18
cyphasesynaptic is slower if the downloading window isn't focused09:18
f_newtonok thanks09:18
f_newtonthat puts me at ease09:18
h08817!extract09:18
ubotuWish i knew, h0881709:18
cyphasetherefore not hogging bandwidth09:18
aeruderand at that point, you have no idea what is running in your system and can be totally fscking it over09:19
f_newtonso deleting it would NOT be a good idea?09:19
h08817!archive09:19
ubotuh08817: Are you smoking crack?09:19
ORiON2012f_newton: nobody has no shell and therefore cannot execute commands, I'm sure the super-hacker could change that though09:19
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i4im too bizzu, dizzy to get my beer09:19
aerudergjr: view page source would do it ;)09:19
aerudergjr: but if you are linked directly to a .arm09:20
aeruderthat once again would not fall in any way under the realm of requiring a plugin09:20
h08817!extract09:20
ubotuh08817: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:20
f_newtonno I just dont want some childish l337 head reeking havoc on my box because his fragile sense of self worth appeared threatened...09:20
thoreauputicf_newton: rule of thumb: if you don't knowwhat it is, don't delete it!09:20
f_newtonyeah09:20
h08817how do u extract an archive?09:20
aeruderif it was embedded into a webpage using the embed tag, then it would fall under the realm of requiring a plugin and firefox would alert you as thus09:20
aeruderh08817: tar zxf09:20
thechitowncubssh08817: right click on it09:21
gjraeruder:  link shows https://..../file.ram, but i dont have a save link as option?09:21
ORiON2012f_newton: love the outlook09:21
h08817what is zxf09:21
f_newtonbeen around a while ORiON2012 `09:21
aerudergjr: why not wget it ?09:21
aerudergjr: or just save page as09:21
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aeruderif they are linking you to a .ram file and firefox isn't offering to download it09:21
aeruderthat means they messed up their mime types on the server09:21
cyphasestart talking about breezy damnit!09:21
cyphase;)09:21
ORiON2012f_newton: no, I'm a total noob, compared to some of the folks in here09:21
n1xt3rh08817: zip extract force - read the man pages09:21
h08817ok09:21
f_newtonno no I meant Ive been around a while.09:22
aeruderwhich is often the case with people that mainly cater to internet explorer (internet explorer more or less ignores mime types)09:22
ORiON2012f_newton: ah, I see09:22
robotgeekcyphase: no breezy for me yet!09:22
cyphasehas anyone tried colony 3?09:22
aerudercyphase: i'm attempting hoary => breezy09:22
gjraeruder:  i am sure that is an issue, they are an m$ shop09:22
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linuxboywhats the standard solitare called in AisleRiot ?09:22
f_newtonI know how easy it is to upset some ... person who believes they are the end all guru and protector of linux09:22
aerudergjr: if you wget it, it will tell you the mime type09:22
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aerudergjr: i'm sure it woudl also be in right click page properties09:23
cyphaseaeruder, you know breezy is still in alpha, right?09:23
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f_newtonusually they are very bright, young, and irresponsible09:23
h08817sweet flash works09:23
f_newtonand hang out in debian rooms09:23
f_newton...09:23
ORiON2012f_newton: too bright, as for responsible.... only if they get caught09:23
f_newtonmommy or daddy buys them out of any trouble09:24
aerudercyphase: sure, i can deal with it09:24
f_newtonbut I wax eloquent09:24
f_newtonthanks thoreauputic for the information09:24
aeruderas soon as i work out some packaging booboos with the python stuff :)09:24
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f_newtonI wont delete it then09:24
thoreauputicf_newton: no worries :)09:24
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guehello09:26
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jedistarHi, just installed ubuntu and I am just getting a screen refresh rate of 60hz09:26
ORiON2012cyphase: are you running breezy?09:26
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aliehi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive09:26
ntldrI installed lm-sensors and ksensors09:26
karol_18hola09:26
jedistarI had up to 100hz on win09:26
ntldrhow do I config lm-sensors09:26
karol_18como estan09:26
cyphaseORiON2012, on my dev machine09:26
aliei have a fat partition and some gb of free space09:26
Madpilot!fixrez09:26
ubotuMadpilot: Do they come in packets of five?09:26
karol_18que me cuentan09:26
cyphasei'm accessing it through VNC09:26
Madpilotfixres09:26
karol_18alguien me envia privado09:26
Madpilot!fixres09:26
ubotu[fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:26
ntldra howto sent me to source dir which i don't have09:27
thoreauputiclinuxboy:  sol09:27
ORiON2012cyphase: other than xorg, have you had any major issues?09:27
guecan anyone help me09:27
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karol_18fuck off09:27
Madpilotjedistar: see right above, where ubotu posted the URL? ^^^09:27
cyphaseORiON2012, what's your xorg problem09:27
linuxboythoreauputic: its not in the list09:27
robotgeekkarol_18: language please09:27
karol_18spanish09:27
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thoreauputiclinuxboy: sorry I thought you meant the command to start it09:27
robotgeekubotu tell karol_18 about conduct09:27
ORiON2012cyphase: none, breezy's been stable as a rock for me except for very minor xlibmesa issues, I was just curious.09:28
linuxboyno, which game is the standard solitare game?09:28
aliehi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive i have a fat partition and some gb of free space09:28
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gjraeruder:  1 more for you - how do I get realplayer to come up as the selected player rather than totem?09:28
thoreauputiclinuxboy: there's a whole set of alternatives - maybe you mean klondike?09:28
karol_18where are you from???09:28
linuxboythoreauputic: yes!09:28
aerudergjr: in firefox?09:28
thoreauputic:)09:28
aerudergjr: that's probably some gnome setting, i'm not sure how you go about that09:29
aerudernot much of a gnome user09:29
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gjraeruder:  yes, on that link it pops a box and suggests totem.  Had to find bin in /usr/bin09:29
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aliehi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive i have a fat partition and some gb of free space09:30
gjraeruder:  this mac is for someone not all that compliterate, trying to get all main functions working.09:30
aliehi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive i have a fat partition and some gb of free space09:30
aerudergjr: i'm a bit unable to help right now09:30
robotgeekgjr: what are you trying to get working?09:30
aerudermy breezy upgrade has left my shell incapable of starting09:31
aeruderso i'm preserving the few shells i have open ;)09:31
aliehi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive i have a fat partition and some gb of free space09:31
aeruderheh09:31
gjraeruder: no prob, thanks for your help.09:31
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jedistarMadpilot, I went to the webpage you pointed out to me earlier..it asked to run a command09:31
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Madpilotjedistar: sorry, which webpage?09:31
jedistarhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto09:31
gjrrobotgeek:  I am trying to get realplay to be deflt offered when box pops to play ram files in ffx.09:31
jedistarjust was not sure how to run a command09:32
cjnodellhello, i have a question about totem, can someone help me?09:32
gjrrobotgeek:  right now is totem.09:32
jedistarlol, feel like I have started learning computers09:32
robotgeekso, you are actually running ubuntu on ppc09:32
thoreauputicgjr: I seem to recall you can type the path in (in the FF dialogue box)09:32
Madpilotjedistar: you need to open a terminal - you're running Hoary (5.04)?09:32
thoreauputicgjr: and make it default09:32
thenukecjnodell: always get to the point straightly, no one knows if they can help you09:32
jedistarhmm, whats hoary?09:33
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Madpilotjedistar: Applications menu --> System Tools --> Terminal09:33
robotgeekgjr: have you installed real player? the ppc version?09:33
thoreauputicjedistar: current stable ubuntu ( 5.04)09:33
gjrthoreauputic: nice try, but no deflt selection was offered, only totem. :-P to the path suggestion, did that!09:33
jedistarok, I have the blinking cursor up09:34
thoreauputicgjr: I know I typed it in - there *is* a way <grin>09:34
gjrrobotgeek:  using ubuntu on HP laptop - intel, yes have realplay 10 installed09:34
jedistardo I just paste the script in there and hit enter?09:34
aeruderjedistar: you tend to remember more if you type it ;)09:34
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aeruderjedistar: but yea09:34
robotgeekgjr: okay..i got confused, i though you were trying to get it to work on a ppc09:34
Madpilotjedistar: each line on the FixVideo page is a seperate command09:34
cjnodellk, I am trying to play avi's and encrypted DVD's with totem. I have looked throught the wiki, and a few other sources, and downloaded a bunch of codecs and so on. I also turned dma on. but whenever i play a dvd or avi in totem, it is slow and jerky (i havent tried other formats yet).. how can i fix this09:35
robotgeekcjnodell: try using vlc09:35
Madpilotjedistar: sorry, meant each line in the greyish boxes09:35
newmancjnodell: or try using mplayer with the codec pack09:35
cjnodellwhat is vlc?09:35
cjnodellI will try mplayer09:35
thoreauputicgjr:  edit - prefs - downloads - "always perform this action... " something like that09:36
robotgeekubotu tell cjnodell about vlc09:36
No1VikingIn  your opinion, whats the best desktop environment systems, eg gnome, kde etc?09:36
newmancjnodell: you can get a complete codec pack to go with it that should have all the codecs you need for video files09:36
gjrthoreauputic: tried that initially, but there was no add selection for that box to place ra type in.  Just did download again and got it to work.  I guess doing 1st time, it continues to by deflt09:37
newmanif you are new to linux, i think KDE is the best bet for user friendliness and attractiveness, after enough linux usage many people prefer blackbox or fluxbox however because they are much faster and many people usually use the terminal most09:37
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thoreauputicgjr: ah ,,,09:38
sampoodoes anyone know how to open a .sh file?09:38
gjrthoreauputic: thx for help09:38
esc_apewhat advantages do blackbox & fluxbox have?09:38
thoreauputicsampoo: you don't - you run it09:38
aerudersampoo: to run one you generally do sh blah.sh09:38
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aeruderif you want to view it (it is a scrpit)09:38
sampoookay i'll try09:38
aeruderuse vi or your favorite text editor09:38
thoreauputicgjr: no problem :)09:38
ORiON2012cjnodell: vlc is an excellent media player that has added streaiming capabillities09:39
ORiON2012streaming*09:39
newmanesc_ape: they are much simpler and on slower machines with less memory they run MUCH faster, and they don't bloat the sysytem with extra programs, jsut simple access to things like the internet and terminals09:39
jtan325newman, what do you use09:39
esc_apeok thanks09:39
esc_apeso far I like gnome - I dont think I'd want kde again09:39
sampooaeruder: thanks alot09:40
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newmanjtan325: i usually do my linux work in blackbox, however sometimes when i want a full multimedia PC and it is good enough i run KDE09:40
jtan325can't believe there are still blackbox users09:40
jtan325lol09:40
robotgeekjtan325: why not?09:40
aeruderwhy?09:40
ORiON2012newman: I use KDE, but for initial windows converts, these KDE menu's can be hell09:40
jtan325i used fluxbox/openbox for the past few months09:40
jtan325then switched to fvwm09:40
cjnodelli see. is vlc available through synaptic?09:40
jtan325fvwm has configurability like no other09:40
newmanesc_ape: gnome is nice because it is sort of a middle ground, not too bloated but still easy to use09:40
cyphaseif breezy - 2 months is where it's at, 6.04 is going to be..09:40
ORiON2012cjnodell: yes09:40
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robotgeekjtan325: i use openbox with gnome..middle ground!09:40
aeruderjtan325: blackbox works and is quite stable/fast ;)09:41
cyphasewowza09:41
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ORiON2012cjnodell: just apt-get vlc09:41
newmanORiON2012: very true, they can be confusing but they are probably easier than trying to learn fluxbox :)09:41
cjnodellK, ill give both vlc and mplayer a shot. I am guessing that there is no way to fix totem?09:41
ORiON2012newman: flux will always have a place in my favorite category, gnome seems so "simple" though09:42
jtan325gnome isn't a window manager guys09:42
thoreauputiccjnodell: install totem-xine09:42
jtan325metacity is the default gnome wm09:42
ORiON2012cjnodell: have you tried totem-xine?09:42
ORiON2012cjnodell: totem-gstreamer seems to cause problems for many09:42
newmanjtan325: granted, but for ease of use w/ unfamiliar people gnome usually suffices as opposed to metacity or enlightenment09:42
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jtan325wait...09:43
aerudernewman: gnome isn't a windowmanager, metacity is :)09:43
jtan325gnome isn't a wm09:43
jtan325exactly09:43
newmanyes09:43
aerudernewman: gnome uses metacity by default09:43
jtan325exactly09:43
robotgeekand that's why u can use openbox instead of metacity09:43
ORiON2012jtan325: DE, yes yes, it's still very easy for newcommers09:43
newmanor you can use enlightenment09:43
robotgeektoo slow for me!09:43
newmanvery true09:44
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newmani have not tried openbox on gnome.....worth a shot i guess09:44
cjnodelli havent tried totem-xine, but have tried kafeen-xine in kubuntu, i had the same problems as i do with totem-gstreamer09:44
jtan325openbox is super simple09:44
jtan325and very minimalistic09:44
jtan325so perfect for terminal folks09:44
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Flying-Penguinhow do you mount iso?09:44
aerudermount -o loop blah.iso /mnt/mountplace09:45
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ORiON2012jtan325: I like ob3 for it's wonderful dynamic menus09:45
Flying-Penguinhmm... why does my xmms freeze ALL THE TIME?09:45
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jtan325yeah09:45
jtan325fvwm has that too09:45
aeruder-t iso#### is nice to, but i can't remember the name and the breezy "upgrade" has currently left me with one surviving shell so i can't look it up, heh09:45
jtan325i can load a video from my menu09:45
thoreauputicFlying-Penguin: try setting the output plugin to esound09:46
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jtan325without having to open slow-as-hell nautilus09:46
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gentoo_junkiebeing in 4 forums makes things way to spammy....09:46
robotgeekjtan325: how do do do that?09:46
aeruderFlying-Penguin: xmms is very bad for high cpu loads09:46
robotgeek!lart gentoo_junkie09:46
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thoreauputicFlying-Penguin: in xmms: options -prefs - plugins or similar09:46
aeruderFlying-Penguin: i finally gave up and started using music123 (simple wrapper around ogg123 and mpg123) for my musicing09:46
ORiON2012gentoo_junkie: wrong chan :P  but gentoo's sweet, don't be offended09:46
gentoo_junkierm -rf09:46
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gentoo_junkiehehe09:47
robotgeekaeruder: did u try bmp?09:47
ORiON2012have it on my server09:47
gentoo_junkiei just monitor all these forums for some reason.09:47
robotgeekgentoo_junkie: welcome09:47
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NathanialHaving a bit of a problem..09:47
gentoo_junkierobotgeek: thanks ubuntu was my first distro.09:47
shaddhi everybody09:47
ORiON2012Nathanial: shoot...09:47
aeruderrobotgeek: same code base, not much better09:47
newmani forgot how to change the wm running on gdm....any help?09:47
gentoo_junkieshadd:hi09:47
thoreauputic!distrowar09:47
Flying-Penguinok... and last question... is there some kind of a work around for using cds for games in linux... like a virtual cd program... cd emulation or such?09:47
ubotukubuntu is better than sls !!09:47
aeruderrobotgeek: although i greatly prefer bmp to xmms09:47
zaofreekgentoo_junkie, i actually went from gentoo to ubuntu09:47
jtan325robotgeek, what's your question?09:47
NathanialI install Apache and try to install either PHP3 or PHP4, and my server still wont show PHP files, it is coming up for a download when I visit my forum setup09:48
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: are you using cedega?09:48
robotgeekjtan325: dynamic menus?09:48
shaddanyboddy for VERLIHUB help here? there's no other room for that around...09:48
Madpilot!lamp09:48
ubotuwell, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:48
zerboxxacpi is telling my my battery is "on-line" how can I change what it tells me?09:48
gentoo_junkiezaofreek: i liked both i just happened to progress the opposite way of you hehe.09:48
MadpilotNathanial: see ubotu's URL ^^^09:48
jtan325robotgeek, are you using fvwm>09:48
jtan325?09:48
robotgeekaeruder: bmp works better than xmms for me, doesn't skip that much09:48
aeruderrobotgeek: they just aren't designed very well, if you look around in the linux kernel mailing lists, you'll find a lot of attacks on people complaining that xmms skips alot and it was pretty unanimous that xmms just isn't designed very well for high cpu loads ;)09:48
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: yes I use cedega09:48
aeruderrobotgeek: yea, it doesn't skip as much, but it still skips09:48
robotgeekjtan325: i tht it was in openbox..doh!09:48
aeruderrobotgeek: i greatly prefer the gtk2 interface tho09:48
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: some cd-cracks work with cedega09:48
robotgeekaeruder: every player has skipped for me, i dunno why..even cli based ones09:49
Nathanialthanks guys :)09:49
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: if you're farmiliar with using them in Windows...09:49
aeruderrobotgeek: it depends on a lot of factors, but the command line ones generally do much better for me09:49
shaddi'm a former win user and wish to get my hub going on linux09:49
MadpilotI've never heard Muine skip, even with something blowing CPU use up to 100%...09:49
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: I don't use cd-cracks, thats not what I ment I ment a way to have the cd in without a real cd09:49
aerudermuine is excellent09:49
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: as in, so I can play online09:49
robotgeekaeruder: nope, muine skips too..a lot!09:50
aeruderi stopped using it when the ubuntu package broke a long time ago tho ;)09:50
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shadd*this is too crowddy in here...*09:50
aeruderrobotgeek: what card?09:50
robotgeekaeruder: i heard a lot abt it, and compiled my own, after filing a bug for incomplete compile.09:50
shadd<--- go have some fresh air...09:51
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: I don't understand how the CP protection would be able to function without either a real CD or a crack09:51
robotgeekaeruder: on a powerbook g4, awacs i guess09:51
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aeruderrobotgeek: ah, yea, i don't know anything about the powerbook stuff, could just be flaky drivers09:51
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aeruderrobotgeek: i'm using sb live drivers09:51
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: at least for BF42 and a few other games, I either have to have the cd in, or a crack09:51
robotgeekaeruder: pretty old card, it's a 2001 machine09:51
aeruderrobotgeek: yea, but sometimes it is driver issues too when there is not completely documentation09:52
Myrttiok, I managed to phuk things up pretty badly09:52
gentoo_junkieanyone mud anymore ?09:52
cjnodellhow can i enable the sound in VLC?09:52
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Ice9!ati09:52
ubotuati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:52
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: in windows there are programs that trick your computer into thinking there are more cd drives than there realy are, then you can build virtual cd images (700mb each) and incert them into the fake cd drive09:52
ORiON2012cjnodell: are you using th GTK+ interface?09:53
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robotgeekaeruder: if i remember right, they worked fine under ydl..so, hmmm09:53
cjnodelli belive so09:53
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cjnodellthe menu entry says VLC gtk+09:53
ishitplz anyone can help me wit openoffice presentation. it does not open09:53
zaofreeki definitely read that as "sound in VNC"09:53
ORiON2012cjnodell: should be able to go to settings, enable advanced options, then scroll down to audio output and select your sound system (ALSA, OSS, etc.)09:54
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cjnodellk, i will give it a try.09:54
aeruderFlying-Penguin: by the nature of linux, i would imagine that if you mount it to where you normally would mount /dev/cdrom or whatnot, you will find the games will take it fine09:54
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: things like daemon tools or Alcohol 120% that emulate CD protections simply don't exists in Linux as far as I know09:54
aeruderFlying-Penguin: that would be my guess09:54
MyrttiI tried to format my usb thumbdrive and managed to phuk things up so that I don't have /dev/sda's no more. /var/log/syslog doesn't mention usb09:54
Myrttihelp.09:54
ishitanyone can help me wit oppenoffice09:55
ishit???09:55
aeruderFlying-Penguin: but yea, the funky cd protection stufff... you are out of luck on taht porbably09:55
aeruderishit: ask your question, don't ask to ask09:55
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aeruderMyrtti: unplug, plugin again?09:55
Myrttinothing09:55
Flying-Penguinaeruder: what if I where to mount a shared cd drive into my /media/cd.....09:56
ishitaeruder openoffice jus does not open09:56
aeruderdmesg | tail shows nothing about usb?09:56
Myrttieven the light on it wont light up09:56
aeruderand don't paste it in here09:56
robotgeekMyrtti: is there a possibility of the USB stick gone kaput...happens often09:56
ishitaeruder: openoffice jus does not open09:56
aeruderMyrtti: well, that sounds like either a.) your usb drive is screwed b.) you don't have usb drivers loaded c.) your usb drivers have crashed09:56
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Myrttirobotgeek: sure it is, but I'd like to be sure before I throw it away09:57
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aeruderFlying-Penguin: yea, prolly09:57
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robotgeekMyrtti: test it on another machine is the best i can come up with09:57
Flying-Penguinaeruder: how would I do that?09:57
ishitdoes a usb stick load automatically on ubuntu09:57
NathanialPHP still isn't working09:57
Myrttiaeruder: nothing, only about eth009:57
aeruderMyrtti: try another computer or look through dmesg for something09:57
Myrttiyup09:57
NathanialI'm getting a download =\09:57
aeruderMyrtti: yea, ok09:57
Nathanialit should be a forum installer page09:57
aeruderMyrtti: just try another computer, it may be dead09:57
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aeruderFlying-Penguin: i gave you the mount command up there09:58
aeruderFlying-Penguin: change the mount directory09:58
MadpilotNathanial: I got PHP4 working just fine on this box - follow these directions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:58
ntldrI got ksensors working \o/09:58
Flying-Penguinaeruder: I know what the mount command is... but I don't think I can put in smb://bill/etc...09:58
Myrttigoddammit, the other computer doesn't have USB09:58
ntldrthanks guys09:58
Myrttiarh09:58
Madpilotntldr: cool09:58
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robotgeekMyrtti: you have an weekend ahead of you :)09:58
ORiON2012Nathanial: It sounds like either mod_php (if running apache) isn't loaded, or you didn't set the .php handler correctly09:58
cjnodellI have set the video output to ALSA, but still no sound09:58
cjnodellin VLC09:59
ntldrit's weird that case fans shows half of real speed09:59
aeruderFlying-Penguin: you'll need the iso on your machine, or mounting loopback off of the samba share may work09:59
Myrttirobotgeek: this wasn't exactly what I planned to do on it :-(09:59
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ORiON2012cjnodell: ALSA is for audio09:59
ntldrhow do I fix that09:59
ntldr?09:59
aerudernot sure if samba has that capability, some network filesystems do not09:59
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crimsuncjnodell: did you install vlc-alsa?09:59
ORiON2012cjnodell: are you running a sound daemon like arts or esd?09:59
aeruderntldr: that's something you have to fix with your sensors program10:00
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aeruderntldr: more than likely10:00
Flying-Penguinaeruder: I didn't say mount and ISO I said a shared drive10:00
james_Hi I have just installed breezy and I am not getting any sound. "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)"10:00
cjnodellI did install vlc.alsa, and i have no idea what daemons i might have running10:00
crimsunjames_: cat /proc/asound/cards10:00
Flying-Penguinaeruder: with an iso I would get the same problem as an iso...10:00
aerudera lot of the sensors are just crazy wrong and mixed up or stuff like that, the sensors program you are using must be flexible enough to configure it for that10:00
crimsuncjnodell: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*10:00
crimsunjames_: then paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:00
james_crimsun, 0 [ICH5           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH510:00
james_                     Intel ICH5 with AD1985 at 0xfebff400, irq 1710:00
james_crimsun, ok i'll remember that site :D10:01
james_sorry10:01
ntldrOK, I found the fix. I set the multiplier to 2 on case fan speeds10:01
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: please explain what you're trying to do, use a NTFS volume as the game directory? Or use a shared CD-ROM?10:01
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Madpilotntldr: yeah, that's a hack, but it give you the numbers you're expecting - I just make sure that the number > 0, and let it go with that...10:02
cjnodellthree items where listed, esd, gmplayer, and gmplayer10:02
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: no, a windows computer that has the cd in shares their drive... then I mount it10:02
blkcan someone help me on a breezy issue with xkb? i get an xkb error when setting the keyboard to something using the gnome-keyboard-pref (it seems although is working in a en_US mode which is probably hardcoded) - setting the layout in xorg.conf doesn't help either10:02
Nathanialis there a way to chmod something through terminal?10:02
james_crimsun, ok I pasted the output of asound here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/141510:02
aeruderNathanial: chmod ? :)10:03
MadpilotNathanial: on a command line? of course - chmod itself. type "man chmod" for info10:03
ntldrok, i think actually the measurements are wrong. it shows weird speeds (from 600 rpm to 1200 rmp in a second)10:03
Nathanialokay thank you :)10:03
aeruderchmod 664 file ;)10:03
aeruderor whatever perms you want10:03
aeruderchmod -R 664 dir would recursively do a directory and all files/dirs in it10:03
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aeruderNathanial: you can also do things like chmod u+w file or g+w or o+rw or o-w etc. etc..10:04
crimsunjames_: you need to mute the External Amplifier10:04
Myrttiwell now10:04
Myrttiit doesm10:04
james_crimsun, ok how do I do that?10:04
cjnodellShould i restart gnome?10:04
Myrttiit doesn't even locate the usb card reader that hasn't been connected to the computer10:04
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aeruderntldr: a lot of the sensors are b0rked, you can't do a lot about it10:05
crimsunjames_: use either Volume Control, alsamixer, or amixer10:05
ntldr:(10:05
aerudereither get a program that lets you apply multipliers to the results or just ignore it10:05
Drauconq time10:05
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: you there?10:05
james_crimsun, ok I muted it but I still do not hear anything10:05
Myrttihowever brw-r-----  1 root plugdev 8, 0 2005-08-20 11:04 sda10:06
ntldraeruder, this board's sensors are ok with Intel's drivers10:06
Myrttiis that ok?10:06
aeruderMyrtti: check dmesg10:06
ntldranyway, at least they show something :)10:06
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aeruderit'll tell you when you plugin a usb ;)10:06
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ntldrcpu temp and cpu fan speeds look real10:07
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Madpilotntldr: most of the chip makers don't care about open source at all - therefore bad support. but a little bit of info is better than nothing10:07
itayHi everyone!10:07
Nathanialeep10:07
Nathanial"You may want your current user to be the PHP pages administrator. To do so, edit the Apache configuration file :10:07
Nathanial$ sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf10:07
NathanialSearch both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache. (look at the next chapter concerning apache commands) "10:07
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crimsunjames_: then unmute it and Center, LFE, and10:07
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: sorry, was afk, can you mount this drive as a normal device...   sorry still not quite understanding how windows and ubuntu can share cdroms10:07
aeruderntldr: that's just how it goes10:07
Madpilot!paste10:07
ntldrMadpilot, true10:07
ubotuI guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:07
crimsunjames_: -and10:07
NathanialI'm having problems figuring out what that means10:07
itayI have problem with the X server, I can't run a few applications...10:07
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Nathanialcurrent user name and group10:07
itayThe error is:10:07
itayXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"10:07
aeruderitay: you need to load the glx extension ;)10:08
oceandeadwow that was easy...*too* easy10:08
mojohi every1, I SERIOUSLY need some help here10:08
aeruderitay: what video card?10:08
itayaeruder, how do I do that?10:08
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itaynvidia10:08
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aeruderitay: ok, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:08
mojothe Ubuntu setup can't regconize my SATA HDD, what should I do?10:08
aerudergo to the section called Module10:08
itayok10:08
itayok10:08
aeruderdo you see a Load "glx" in there?10:09
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itayyes10:09
MadpilotNathanial: you're going to open the apache configuration file and change it to your own user & group, that's all10:09
aeruderok10:09
aeruderitay: now, open /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:09
|doug|Hi all, I bought a USB tv tuner and am messing around with tvtime, does anyone have any idea what (if anything) the USB device would be in /dev/ ?10:09
itayok10:09
MadpilotNathanial: can I /msg you to give you more detail?10:09
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: anyway, if you can't mount this as some sort of block device then cedega will never be able to utilize it's scu-rom (or whatever protection) hadnlers10:09
ORiON2012sorry for spelling10:10
aeruderitay: look through there for lines that contain glx (case insensitive)10:10
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aerudersee any warnings or errors?10:10
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: ok... lets say a windows comp shares his cd drive over the windows network... then it would be at smb://compname/D then mount it...10:10
james_crimsun, ok they are unmuted but still nothing10:10
cjnodellI got it to work. I figured that since i had esd running that i should install the esd plugin for vlc, and enable it in the prefrences menu. it works now. thanks!10:10
crimsunjames_: then try combinations of the exchange elements.10:11
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mojothe Ubuntu setup can't regconize my SATA HDD, what should I do?10:11
NathanialMadpilot10:11
NathanialSure10:11
NathanialSorry I was trying to figure it out10:11
aerudermojo: assuming that you are a newbie, you are fscked10:11
ntldrWell, it seems that intel made drivers for SuSE and RedHat10:11
itayaeruder, should I use: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep glx"?10:11
aerudermojo: try colony 3 cd10:11
arphetic!help10:11
aeruderitay: grep -i10:11
oceandeadbreezy is going to be excellent10:12
ORiON2012Flying-Penguin: sorry, but if the game doesn't have punkbuster, its ten times easier to just install and crack, I don't believe the copy protection will be transmitted over a network mounted filesystem10:12
jtan325is breezy usable?10:12
itayhere are 2 lines from the output:10:12
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itaySymbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!10:12
itay(EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension10:12
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jtan325anyone notice the topic no longer contains "please don't use breezy yet!"10:12
aeruderitay: ok that last one is your culprit10:12
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: could you find me a wc3 no cdcrack...10:12
ORiON2012aeruder: any opinion on this?10:13
aeruderitay: unless you are using the way way way way way newest nvidia drivers10:13
Flying-PenguinORiON2012: I will try it for you10:13
aeruderORiON2012: you are correct10:13
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aeruderyou can't get cd copy protection over a network10:13
james_crimsun, I just tried a combo and I am not getting any sound10:13
aeruderitay: you can't have composite and glx10:13
itayaeruder, I installed the driver by ubuntu guide10:13
aeruderitay: what version?10:14
itaywhat is composite?10:14
itayaeruder, the nvidia-glx version is 1.0.7174-0ubuntu110:14
aeruderitay: it is a extension that allows a feature called the composite extension which lets you have translucent windows and shadows and other neat stuff10:14
aeruderitay: ok, that's too old, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:15
aerudergo down to the Extensions section10:15
aeruder       Option "Composite"      "Enable"10:15
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aeruderprefix that line with #10:15
azriel0184what is a good cd burning program?10:15
aerudersave, restart X10:15
oceandeadi just set up printing over lan in about 2 seconds10:16
|doug|azriel0184, try k3b10:16
itayaeruder, ok I will now restart and come back here10:16
oceandeadbreezy really is breezy10:16
aeruderitay: okie10:16
jtan325oceandead, it hasn't caused any problems?10:16
aeruderoceandead: the upgrade was a little quirky ;)10:16
ntldris there a video card test tool similar to dxdiag in windows?10:16
oceandeadtell me about it10:16
oceandeadupgrade didnt work for me10:16
aeruderoceandead: had to do a couple dpkg --force things to get it there ;)10:16
aeruderon two packages at least10:16
ntldrI need to check if my video card is installed properly10:17
jtan325hmmm yeah i think i''ll wait a few weeks10:17
jtan325i don10:17
jtan325't mind10:17
oceandeadkept throwing errors didnt want to startx ...eventually i got it to but too many troubles - did a fresh install10:17
|doug|anyone have any experience with USB tv tuners or similar devices?  I think my question is pretty generic, I just need to figure out if and where there is something in /dev/ linking to it10:17
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oceandeadi got it to startx that is10:18
|doug|/dev/video0 doesn't work, and most of the google results are about PCI tuners10:18
aeruder|doug|: try dmesg and check your kernel logs10:18
aeruder:)10:18
aeruderoceandead: yea, i guess i can try a startx10:18
aeruderbrb hopefully10:18
crimsunjames_: have you tried alsa-source from universe, then?10:18
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james_crimsun, no not yet.10:19
crimsun!tell james_ about alsa-source10:19
itayhi! it works!10:19
MyrttiI Hate My Life10:19
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itayThank you very much!10:20
oceandeadbasically it killed ...a lot of things. then again i wasnt upgrading the "default" hoary install ..i had removed some packages, added others etc10:20
|doug|okay, I might have some luck with USBVision drivers10:20
jtan325hmmm yeah10:20
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ntldrGotta go. Thanks guys!10:24
aeruderoceandead yea, might be a while til i get this crap worked out :)10:24
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james_thanks crimsun I will try it now :D10:24
zerboxxwhat is the reverse command to "cut"? (head vs tail, cut vs ?)???10:24
oceandeadwhat kind of issues have you had aeruder - or too many to list?10:25
thoreauputiczerboxx: "paste"10:25
aeruderoceandead mostly just xorg issues now10:25
thoreauputiczerboxx: man paste ;)10:25
aeruderoceandead finding the fixed font ;)10:26
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zerboxxthoreauputic: hmm not sure if that's what I mean, cut seems to take from the end of an output and goes left, I'm looking for something that goes the other way10:26
thoreauputiczerboxx: ah, I see10:26
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zerboxxthoreauputic: actually, other way around :D10:26
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oceandeadi dont even know how i got it started, i re-did base-config and used http for sources eventually whatever i did i got it started10:26
Madpilotblah, it's already 0125 here... good night/morning/$timeofday, everyone10:27
oceandeadgnome panels were gone though, no text in firefox ...bunch of other things10:27
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aeruderoceandead yeh, i'll get through it all10:27
aeruderoceandead hopefully ;)10:27
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oceandeadhehehe10:28
H0lyD4wgwhat should be done to run gdmflexiserver successfully from VT1-6 ?10:28
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oceandeaddid you get the "perl warning: setting locale failed [...] " as well?10:29
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zerboxxthoreauputic: XD put this into a terminal "ifconfig eth0 | head -n2 | tail -n1 | cut -c21-33"10:29
|doug|err no luck, I installed usbvision drivers and loaded the module, but still can't find a device for my capture card10:29
oonoonduring the boot, it takes much time (like 1 minute) to 'Configuring network interfaces' (i'm connected to a wifi network) ; knows how to avoid that ?10:30
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aeruderoceandead uh...10:30
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oceandeadguess not10:31
james_crimsun, I tried what you typed but I get this error10:31
james_You don't have the compiler that your kernel was built with installed10:31
james_make: *** [configure-stamp]  Error 110:31
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zerboxxI'm behind a router, is there any way within the terminal to see what my external IP is?10:31
ubuntuI'm trying to update hoary to breezy, but some packages depends of libcairo1>=0.6.0, but this is not avaiable.  Any solution ?10:31
ubuntuthere is only libcairo2 avaiable10:32
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aeruderoceandead doesn't look like it10:32
crimsunjames_: do you have build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed?10:33
james_crimsun, yes they are installed10:34
|doug|dmesg only tells me ``usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7''10:34
crimsunjames_: gcc -v && cat /proc/version10:34
crimsunjames_: paste the output in #flood10:34
james_crimsun, ok10:35
aeruderoceandead yea, not looking good at all :)10:35
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oceandeadwhats not looking good10:36
crimsunjames_: Breezy?10:36
crimsunjames_: there're quite a few things in flux in Breezy10:36
james_crimsun, yeah10:36
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james_crimsun, I tried hoary but samething no sound10:37
crimsunjames_: you need to use gcc-3.4 to compile the newer ALSA drivers10:37
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james_ok. so does that mean I need to use hoary again?10:37
aeruderoceandead : xorg's possibilities of working :)10:37
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crimsunjames_: not necessarily, but you do need the same C compiler10:37
oceandeadif i got it to work im sure you can10:38
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ntldrI can't install latest NVidia drivers. I get some errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/141610:38
itayhi again!10:38
nEmiSHwhere is the correct place to ask question about HAL?10:38
itayI am trying to run enemy territory, but it stuck in "sound initialization".10:38
james_crimsun, ok do I just apt for gcc-3.4?10:38
itaywhat's the problem?10:38
oceandeadthough, it may not be worth the trouble once you do?10:38
aeruderoceandead it is segfaulting ;) (xorg)10:38
oceandeaddoh10:38
crispynix-v6nEmiSH: well, there's one person in #hal ;)10:38
oceandeaddidnt get that bad on me10:38
nEmiSHcrispynix-v6, ChanServ?10:39
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crispynix-v6nEmiSH: dunno. you could ask here, I guess.10:39
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nEmiSHwell i'm having a problem with hal's auto mounting a device10:39
itaywhat's the problem with the sound?10:40
nEmiSHi have tried to create a FDI to get around these problems10:40
ntldrcan someone help me with my problem? =>> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/141610:40
ntldr:)10:40
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zerboxxI'm behind a router, is there any way within the terminal to see what my external IP is???10:40
nEmiSHFDI mounts to correct mount point but doesn't mount with correct fstype and mounts RO instead of RW10:40
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nEmiSHi know it works because I can mount using fstab entry and it mounts fine10:41
james_zerboxx, http://www.whatismyip.com/10:41
zerboxxjames_: any way within terminal though?10:41
nEmiSHjust when HAL auto mounts it  seems to be the problem10:41
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james_zerboxx, nope10:41
itayenemy territory gets stuck when it tries to initialize the sound...10:41
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crispynix-v6nEmiSH: hrm, I'm not sure whether or not hal uses per-user options, but you could check the stuff in /etc/hal/ and documentation10:42
oceandeaditay have you looked on the forums?10:42
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crimsunjames_: yeah10:42
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itayoceandead, no, what forums? ubuntu forum?10:42
crispynix-v6nEmiSH: hal automount at least uses pmount iirc, which can be called by an unpriv user10:42
oceandeadyep10:43
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james_crimsun, ok I will download it then10:43
oceandeadtheres a whole board devoted to gaming ...10:43
crispynix-v6nEmiSH: actually, nevermind (it can't)10:43
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deufois there a way to get the ricoh card reader to work?10:44
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thoreauputiczerboxx: install ez-ipupdate and set up an account on dyndns.org that points at your current IP - then doing " host foo.yourdyndns.org" or whatever returns your IP10:44
james_itay, I had the same problem. when you run it in the terminal there is actually a fix in the error that tells you how to get it working.10:45
aeruderdeufo tried googling?10:45
Xyc0http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php <--Always a good laugh at Corporate America's ignorance of the world.10:45
zerboxxthoreauputic: awesome, thanks!10:45
aeruderdeufo because with that specific of a question, you'll get a lot better luck with google than you will in here most likely10:45
nEmiSHcrispynix-v6,  hal is trying to mount my UDF (Iomega REV drive) as a cdrom   fs=cdfss and ro...10:45
deufoaeruder, i read somewhere on the forum that ricoh SD card readers dun work10:46
deufoaeruder, just wondering if its true10:46
nEmiSHif i mount through fstab or manually it mounts fs=udf, rw10:46
james_crimsun, ok it looks like it is compiling now :)10:46
aeruderdeufo best thing to do is mess around and try it10:46
aeruderdeufo find some instructions for another card reader and see if they work10:46
deufoaeruder, ty10:46
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crispynix-v6nEmiSH: well, you probably need to change something in /etc/hal/, I don't know. There should be documentation that covers the intricacies of hal.10:47
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emiliohola10:48
aeruderemilio hola10:48
emiliotengo una preguntilla10:49
nEmiSHcrispynix-v6, problem is rev drive appears to systems.. including windows as a CDrom drive because its UDF10:49
emilioa ver si me podias hechar una mano10:49
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nEmiSHi need to have HAL override that default behavior and specify that this can mount RW as opposed to RO10:49
aeruderemilio eek, me no hablo bueno espanol10:49
emilioquiero instalar netbeans en ubuntu pero no me va10:49
emiliook10:50
crispynix-v6nEmiSH: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/hal10:50
emilioi want install netbeans in ubuntu10:50
crispynix-v6nEmiSH: aha, #freedesktop might be a better place to ask. gl :)10:51
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abysslo what i need for dvd playback?10:51
ORiON2012emilio: does netbeans installer tell an error?10:51
emiliodo you chat about java?10:52
ORiON2012emilio: many people have had problems with it and JBuilder10:52
emiliodo you know chat about java10:52
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emiliook10:52
aeruderemilio you may have luck in another channel10:52
llpamiesI edited my grup's menu.lst, and now, when I do a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image...  It dont regenerate correctlt my menu.lst.  How can I tell dpkg to regenerate my menu.lst ?10:52
llpamiesthanks10:52
ORiON2012emilio: I am a Java developer, but have not used Netbeans before in linux10:52
aeruderemilio is there a #java?10:52
emiliomi ingles is little bad ok10:53
aeruderemilio certainly a lot better than my spanish ;)10:53
ORiON2012emilio: no problem10:53
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aeruderemilio you might ask in ##java channel10:54
aeruderemilio they have lots of people, and there may be some linux users10:54
HappyFoolllpamies: what is it not doing? I think the command might be 'update-grub' -- I don't know if the dpkg-reconfigure will call that10:54
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abyss!dvd10:54
ubotu[dvd]  There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem10:54
llpamiesI update my kernel-image yesterday, and now I can boot, it return me a kernel panic !!   Anybody knows what are this ?10:54
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aeruderemilio ubuntu doesn't have netbeans i don't think, but general linux supports it, so any distro's instructions for installing it should work for you10:55
aeruderemilio comprehende?10:55
james_crimsun, ok it is done but I don't hear anything still. do I need to reboot?10:55
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emilioi dowload netbeans 4.1 linux.bin and i execute  ./netbeans .. but functional10:56
Veloxllpamies: can you give us a full paste of the error by pasting it to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl?10:56
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JBpunk  10:56
aeruderemilio how big of download?10:56
abysscan anybody tell me what codecs i need to play a dvd on ubuntu?10:56
emilio54 megas10:56
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james_abydos, libdvdcss210:56
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crimsunjames_: if you didn't unload the old modules and reload the new ones, yes10:57
james_ok10:57
crimsunback tomorrow.10:57
zerboxxthoreauputic: Thanks for the dyndns.org info, works perfectly.  What must I do to keep this updated now?10:57
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llpamiesVelox, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/141710:57
aeruderemilio any error when you tried to run ./netbeans... ?10:57
ORiON2012aeruder: heh, that's what I asked10:58
JBpunk  Totem*.mpg 10:58
ORiON2012maybe hes asking in #java10:58
dabarJBpunk: napusi se kurca.10:58
thoreauputiczerboxx: ez-ipdate can update on connect - sudo dpkg-reconfigure ez-ipdate to set it I seem to recall10:58
aeruderORiON2012 perhaps10:58
emiliono existe el fichero o directorio but it,s well write10:58
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thoreauputiczerboxx: I use it that way for my dialup anyway10:59
zerboxxthoreauputic: wow, thanks!10:59
ORiON2012emilio: which directory, can you cut and paste it?10:59
aeruderemilio ./netbeans<tab>10:59
dabaremilio: so? the file dont exist.10:59
llpamiesHappyFool, yes update-grub works fine10:59
emilioyes10:59
thoreauputiczerboxx: you can run it as a daemon I think10:59
emilioi.m dowloading again10:59
zerboxxthoreauputic: I see that, not sure if I will or not yet :)10:59
aeruderemilio does it show full filename when you hit tab?10:59
aeruderemilio also, try sh netbeans<tab>10:59
dbernar1emilio: you have asked at ubuntu-es?11:00
leo_my box is Ubuntu, where is right path for httpd.conf cos i want to setup virtual host11:00
leo_can anyone help me, please11:00
ORiON2012#ubnuntu-es, excellent idea11:00
emiliook thank you11:00
dbernar1no11:00
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aeruderleo_ /etc/apache2 has all the apache configs11:00
ORiON2012dbernar1: didn't know it existed...11:00
aeruderyah, me neither11:00
dbernar1!es11:00
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:00
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aeruderi was about to start crappy half-english/spanish to communicate with him11:01
aeruderand that wouldn't have been pretty11:01
dbernar1mah..11:01
james_crimsun, ok I just rebooted and there is still no sound.11:01
dbernar1james_: good.11:01
aeruderi remember enough spanish to communicate, but a lot of words i've forgotten :)11:01
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leo_ya, but i see only 4 lines in httpd.conf file in /etc/apache2/11:01
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aeruderleo_ look in sites-enabled11:02
Veloxaeruder: Indeed...I know broken spanish myself. Unfortunately I find myself forgetting most of my lessons :P11:02
dbernar1:57 < crimsun> back tomorrow.11:02
james_dbernar1, huh??11:02
ORiON2012dbernar1: good?11:02
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dbernar1oh, that...11:02
james_ahh ok11:02
dbernar1maybe wasnt gonna work anyhow, they finished part of it or asomething...11:03
leo_can u explain more11:03
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dbernar1leo, searched for the file?11:03
ORiON2012leo_: in the apache config directory11:03
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leo_ya, i found only one httpd.conf11:04
ORiON2012a2ensite, some such nonsense, hate the new synlink crap11:04
aeruderleo_ look at some of the files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled11:04
VeloxHappyFool: I never did get GRUB to work yet. Until then I'm stuck accessing Ubuntu with VMware Virtual Workstation, directly interfacing with the drive...and GRUB actually works with it >_<11:04
dbernar1leo, looked at an online manual? apache ought to be well documented...11:04
HappyFoolVelox: hmm. did you ever try ompaul's idea of unplugging your SATA drive? just to see if it works?11:04
dbernar1leo.../usr/share/doc/apache/examples/httpd.conf11:05
thoreauputiczerboxx: html2text http://checkip.dyndns.org:8245/    <-- try it ;)11:05
dbernar1yours will be apache 2 maybe.11:05
emiliojoin #java11:05
llpamiesI've a kernel panic after update my hoary laptop. In booting it tell me that can't mount my root /dev/hda2, or bad block 0,0. Is a strange message when I install my kernel, see it here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/141711:05
aeruderdbernar1 they have a complicated setup for apache2 configs11:05
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zerboxxthoreauputic: nice :)11:05
thoreauputic:)11:06
VeloxHappyFool: Actually I never saw that one...I also tried loading GRUB from NTLDR after using bootpart...still didn't work.11:06
zerboxxzerboxx: I finally figured out ez-ipupdate :) so that's perfect now, I get a nice IP info thing, AND a dns!11:06
VeloxI'll try unplugging the SATA drive later.11:06
zerboxxthoreauputic: I finally figured out ez-ipupdate :) so that's perfect now, I get a nice IP info thing, AND a dns!11:06
dbernar1zerboxx: why talk to yourself?11:06
zerboxx...yes I'm tired :)11:06
VeloxRight now I full-screened Kubuntu and am getting my Linux fix in.11:06
zerboxxdbernar1: :P I'm tired11:06
thoreauputiczerboxx: html2text http://checkip.dyndns.org:8245/  | grep IP  <-- nicer ;)11:06
dbernar1you type pretty fast...11:06
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dbernar1zerboxx: Im gonna get a computer just for that, and servers.11:07
zerboxxdbernar1: that's because it's like a natural thing, not thinking though ;)11:07
leo_in sites-enabled folder, i see 000-default that has virtual host lines in inside but it is read only file11:07
zerboxxdbernar1: Today I've set up apache, mysql, php, torrentflux, conky, and now this dns thingy :)11:08
ORiON2012llpamies: so that would imply that there's something wrong with the filesystem or you did something nasty,, any idea which it wouyld be?11:08
ORiON2012sorry for spelling11:08
aeruderleo_ are you root?11:09
leo_ya, i can11:09
llpamiesORiON2012, The filesistem is ok, because now I'm chrooted inside with a Live hoary.11:09
aeruderllpamies probably an initrd issue11:09
ORiON2012yep11:09
aeruderllpamies it isn't finding your ide drivers or filesystem drivers11:09
llpamiesORiON2012, I think that the problem is that initrd.img doesn't has the ext3 drivers11:10
aeruderllpamies does it have ext2?11:10
llpamiesaeruder, is ext311:10
oceandeadi wonder if i should add my wireless card to the wiki (HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards)11:10
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aeruderllpamies ext2 drivers can mount ext311:10
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llpamiesaeruder, how can I try it ?11:11
aeruderllpamies its hard to debug initrd stuff11:11
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aeruderllpamies very hard11:11
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llpamiesaeruder, do you see my message when I install the kernel ?11:11
ORiON2012oceandead: which card? just curious..11:11
llpamieshttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/141711:11
leo_aeruder, i can root11:12
ORiON2012cpio:   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7feb000): No such file or directory11:12
zerboxxthoreauputic: Do you have ex-ipupdate run at startup?11:12
ORiON2012which would mean it can't read filesystem11:12
oceandeaddwl-650 v.M1 (realtek rtl8180l chipset, phillips sa-2400 frontend)11:12
ORiON2012or something is really wrong11:12
aeruderllpamies i'm still trying to recover from my breezy upgrade, i'm a bit crippled atm11:12
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aeruderbecause there be lots of changes!11:13
thoreauputiczerboxx: umm... I forget what I did now - been a while - I don't think so11:13
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thoreauputiczerboxx: mine just runs when I dial up11:13
oceandeadworks with drivers from http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net (must be compiled first, obviously) and ndiswrapper of course11:13
aeruderleo_ you will (hopefully) need root to edit any files in /etc11:13
ORiON2012aeruder: and yet here I sit, in breezy install, that I've NEVER had upgrade issues with, yes I'm bragging11:14
llpamiesaeruder, In my other PC, my breeze update is broken too, all the system depends of libcairo1, and it isn't avaiable11:14
zerboxxthoreauputic: cool11:14
oceandead<- had issues upgrading11:14
aeruderllpamies ;)11:15
leo_aeruder, i am in rood, how can i edit cos i am newbies in linux11:15
aeruderORiON2012 you installed from scratch breezy more or less :)11:16
ORiON2012llpamies: have to ask, exactly what was performed prior to the kernel upgrade?11:16
ORiON2012aeruder: yup11:16
thoreauputiczerboxx: the html2text thing works from the box you are on - but ez-ipupdate is nice if you want to find the machine from elsewhere11:16
aeruderleo_ install nano, then nano /etc/whatever11:16
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aeruderleo_ sudo apt-get install nano11:16
thoreauputicaeruder: nano is installed by default11:17
llpamiesORiON2012, I don't understand, what want you say ?11:17
oceandeadnano there by default11:17
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ORiON2012llpamies: you said you were upgrading, it would probably be useful to know exactly what you upgraded.11:18
oceandeadaeruder can you get your networking going? i did a base-config used http .... then i could get x up11:18
oceandeadhad no panels in gnome, no text in firefox but i got x up haha11:18
llpamiesI upgrade hoary from my update-notifier, and it only upgrade linux-image-2.6.10-5-68611:18
aeruderoceandead to tell you the truth, i've spent the last 20 minutes looking for xeyes11:19
aeruderonly to find i think they split up xbase-clients and forgot it :)11:19
aeruderxeyes is an integral part of my x sessions ;)11:19
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llpamiesORiON2012, I think that the problem is that when It try to create the initrd image appear this error: cpio:   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7feb000): No such file or directory11:19
llpamiescpio: (0xffffe000): No such file or directory11:19
thoreauputicaeruder: bug report time! *g*11:19
oceandeadaeruder, try geyes?11:20
i4where can i find a log of tcp/ip connections made to my computer?11:20
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ORiON2012it still sounds like the ext driver problem that aeruder mentioned11:20
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aeruder_boo, guess i'll have to deal with tuxeyes11:21
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llpamiesORiON2012, and the cpio error is not important?11:21
oceandeada real tragedy11:21
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ORiON2012llpamies: I'm sorry ut it's beyond me11:21
vot3can someoone help me? everytime a user logs in and uploads a file i am unable to move the folder because i do not have permission. how can i change this11:21
aeruder_oceandead: i use xeyes as my controlling window11:21
ORiON2012*but11:21
aeruder_that way, i can start another window manager by just quitting one and starting another11:22
aeruder_as long as xeyes is going, the x session stays alive11:22
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aeruder_but oh well, tuxeyes will work!11:22
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ORiON2012llpamies: this may be useful http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27709.html11:22
ORiON2012llpamies: same error11:22
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ORiON2012llpamies: several people solved the problem in that thread11:24
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chicken-manHi every one11:24
ORiON2012hello11:25
cute_bettonganyone know what video resolution is supported by the nvidia geforce 4000mx with 128mb ddr?11:25
llpamiesORiON2012, thanks I'm trying it !11:25
ORiON2012how rude, nooone says "hi".11:25
vot3can someone tell me how to use umask so that all files uploaded in the /home directories have rwx for all users?11:25
cute_bettonghi lol11:25
cute_bettongsorry to busy typinh crap >.<11:25
chicken-mancan some one tell me what the file is that starts up all the programs when i boot ?11:25
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aeruder_chicken-man: well, technically /sbin/init11:26
chicken-manthanks11:26
aeruder_chicken-man: but what you're probably talking about is /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rcS.d11:26
cute_bettongany ideas?11:26
ORiON2012chicken-man: and then there's all the init.d scripts11:26
aeruder_which contains all the scripts that get started by init11:26
chicken-mani want to stop XDM from starting11:26
aeruder_chicken-man: sure, go into /etc/rc2.d11:26
aeruder_do ls11:26
aeruder_find the S99xdm or whatever11:26
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aeruder_mv S99xdm _99xdm11:27
aeruder_you've disabled it11:27
chicken-manok11:27
ORiON2012aeruder_: chmod a-x ?11:27
aeruder_well, you could do that too, i usually just rename it as such (which amkes it easy to later reenable)11:27
ORiON2012chicken-man: two sides of the same coin, I'm just anal and like too preserve my filenames11:28
ORiON2012extremely anal11:28
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No1VikingWhen will Breezy be stable and available to download and install?11:29
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aeruder_No1Viking: not now, heh11:30
ORiON2012No1Viking: check the wiki for all breezy goodness11:30
nerdy2https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule11:30
abysslo anybody there who can tell me how to install a rt2500 base wlan card on ubuntu?11:30
nerdy2sorry, no need for https, anyways, Oct. 1311:30
llpamiesany idea about breezy dependece of libcairo1 ?  any solution ?11:31
aeruder_llpamies: it isn't greatly affecting me11:31
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nerdy2llpamies: what do you mean?11:31
zerboxxAnyone here comfy with apache??11:31
ORiON2012abyss: there are no packages that I know of to facilitate this, its going to take some source compilation11:32
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llpamiesnerdy2, all packages like totem, evolution etc etc depends of libcairo1, and it isn't avaiable. The correct package is libcairo211:32
oceandeadabyss, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards11:33
oceandeadoops sorry wrong link11:33
oceandeadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards11:33
nerdy2llpamies: i've got totem, evolution, .... all installed, as well as libcairo2 :)11:33
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aeruder_there are several packages that you need to just wait to upgrade11:33
llpamiesnerdy2, which repos are you using ?11:33
nerdy2archive.ubuntu.com11:33
vot3can someone help me with umask?11:34
llpamiesnerdy2, it has any tipe of load balance, or redirect by zone ?11:34
llpamiess/tipe/type/11:34
HappyFoolvot3: what do you want to know?11:34
ORiON2012llpamies: did that forum thread work?11:34
vot3HappyFool: i am trying to set it so that any new uploads in my /home directories are automaticall +rwx for ALL user.11:35
nerdy2llpamies: host shows two addresses for archive.ubuntu.com, about other types of load balancing/redirection i dunno11:35
llpamiesORiON2012, I'm downloading 2.6.1211:35
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ORiON2012llpamies: welcome to the new age :P11:35
HappyFoolvot3: setting +x automatically is probably not that useful11:35
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vot3HappyFool: ok then, just +rw11:35
srijithhi all11:36
ORiON2012hey11:36
llpamiesORiON2012, I'm going to reboot ...11:36
HappyFoolvot3: 'umask 0000' is what you want, i think11:36
HappyFoolvot3: i'm not sure where you'd put that, though11:36
vot3k.11:36
No1Viking7list11:36
vot3does anyone else know?11:37
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HappyFoolvot3: you can try ~/.gnomerc11:37
HappyFoolvot3: if you just need it for shells, put it in ~/.bashrc11:37
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vot3HappyFool: i will do both and see what happens11:39
srijithanyone around here use Enigmail with PGP/MIME?11:39
vot3HappyFool: wold i have to do that for each user with a shell?11:39
HappyFoolvot3: for all users, you can look in /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc11:40
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HappyFoolvot3: or add something to /etc/X11/Xsession.d  (for GUI)11:40
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vot3HappyFool: i have never edited my .bashrc file. where do i put it?11:41
HappyFoolvot3: i'm not sure how to set umask for GNOME/KDE11:41
HappyFoolvot3: in your home dir11:41
ORiON2012vot3: are all your users of a certain group?11:41
vot3HappyFool: why would i need to set it for the gui?11:41
HappyFoolvot3: ~ means 'home'11:41
vot3k11:41
HappyFoolvot3: so that when firefox (or whatever) saves a file, it has the desired permissions11:41
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vot3HappyFool: i am using scp over an ssh connection to transfer these files.11:42
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ORiON2012vot3: this scp transmission transfers to a specified directory or to all users home?11:43
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HappyFoolvot3: then .bashrc ought to be ok11:43
HappyFoolvot3: or you could just type 'umask 0000' before you do the copy ;)11:44
ORiON2012nevermind then11:44
demantiknot currently using ubuntu, but...does anybody know much about gnome 2.10, and not getting past the splash screen? lol11:44
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vot3# /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for the Bourne shell (sh(1))11:45
ORiON2012demantik: now c'mon, there must be useful error mesages11:45
vot3this looks correct11:45
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weejamerhow do i play wmv in linux?11:45
srijithvlcplayer?11:45
HappyFool!restricted11:45
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:45
demantikSESSION_MANAGER=local/10.0.0.2:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4558.....stops at that11:45
weejameri tryed that but it did not work11:45
srijithwmv9?11:45
weejamerno idea11:46
HappyFoolweejamer: some windows formats may not be supported11:46
weejamerthats great11:46
demantikORiON2012 - any ideas? lol11:46
weejamereverything is a fight to get things working in linux11:46
demantik^ not entirely11:47
srijithwmv9 would most probably fail in Linux11:47
demantikmplayer plays wmv9 perfectly..11:47
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ORiON2012demantik: not so much, which distro?11:47
demantikArchlinux ;)11:47
srijithweejamer, just like you can't run a .deb file in Windows? :)11:47
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demantikill see if i can find any other error messages.. :( lol11:47
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ORiON2012demantik: sorry, but I have no idea11:48
vot3HappyFool: i am not the one copying the files over11:48
topyliyou don't "run" debs in linux either :)11:48
weejamerSigh will there ever be a great OS?11:48
gentoo_junkieanyone figure out how to fix the naim toc server problem ?11:48
demantikalright..thanx anyway....Ubuntu is great!..trying arch aswell though hah...11:48
ORiON2012weejamer: Mac OS X :P11:48
demantikweejamer - linux is great, if u know how to use it.11:48
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srijithweejamer, if you know it is wmv9, try this page ->http://www.nanocrew.net/?p=1611:48
demantikbut not one thing is perfect11:48
topyliweejamer: i doubt it. i hope some of them begin to suck less11:48
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urezinhi all11:49
chicken-manhi11:49
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ORiON2012srijith: how does that help?11:49
weejamermy girl friend is getting a Mac powerbook soon so i will give it mac os a try ORiON201211:50
demantikMPLAYER <- the answer to video playback troubles....im yet to find a video it WONT play :|11:50
thoreauputicweejamer: does windows media player play Ogg Theora ? <grin>11:50
gentoo_junkieI am also interested to use max os X11:50
weejamerno idea Ogg Theora is11:50
demantikmplayer plays H264 about twice as good as windows, with any player ;)11:50
gentoo_junkiewhois @bob211:51
demantikmac os x would be great if we didnt have to pay so much for the hardware11:51
weejameri hurd mac os will run on a intell based systen11:51
thoreauputicweejamer: what a lousy OS - won't play open video formats!!11:51
weejamerME want11:51
ORiON2012gentoo_junkie: the only thing I hate about Mac OS X is all the stupid little shareware fees to get native cocoa/carbon apps11:51
gentoo_junkiewhoops haha11:51
demantikweejamer - not officially...11:51
weejamerstill me want11:51
gentoo_junkieORiON2012: I am scarred of mac os x more then linux hehe, such a small user base compared to either windows or linux distros11:52
demantiklol11:52
demantikdoesnt Mac have a much larger user base than linux11:52
oceandeadyeah11:52
weejamermy girl freind is pay throught he roof for the mac laptop but i am getting the free i pod so i am happy11:52
vot3ORiON2012: the scp transmission transfers into a specified users dir, the one who is logged in. but i want all the dirs in /home and all the ones under them to have +rw by default, it seems like it would be easy11:52
gentoo_junkiehmmm.11:52
demantikor does it just seem that way, with the Mac stores everywhere11:52
demantik:F11:52
demantik:D11:52
oceandeadno, it does11:52
ORiON2012gentoo_junkie: yes, but at least from my experience they're ten times more psychotically attatched to their OS11:52
gentoo_junkiei am not sure demantik.11:52
demantikindeed.11:53
weejamerlol ORiON2012 i agree11:53
oceandeadi dont know about 10x11:53
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gentoo_junkieorion2012 nods, and since the linux kernel is ported to mac it should improve.11:53
oceandeadbut at least 2x11:53
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demantikMaster Windows In 7 days! <-- books like that are funny..11:53
thoreauputicvery hard to gauge the size of the Linux user base11:53
gentoo_junkiewell ubuntu is the biggest distro I know, and ist still growing.11:53
Dejavuhi everyone11:53
oceandeadyou know osx is gonna wind up running on non-mac hardware ...and i dont think it will take long either11:54
weejamermaster windows in 7 days is a popup book in the kids section11:54
ORiON2012vot3: do you have some sort of script for initiating this scp transfer?  this would be an ideal candidate for some simple bash scripting11:54
thoreauputicdemantik: Master Linux in Seventy Years!11:54
gentoo_junkieshrug i never used a mac machine that didn't boggle me.11:54
chicken-manlol11:54
gentoo_junkiebut thats as a windows/linux user.11:54
Dejavuwhats the best firewall for linux (ubunut) ?11:54
gentoo_junkiefirestarter dejavu11:54
vot3ORiON2012: no, i figured there would be an easy way to set the default umask. /etc/profile has an entry for it but when i tested it it did not work, unless there is something i need to restart before it will take effect?11:55
gentoo_junkiedejavu there also is shorewalls11:55
llpamiesORiON2012, I'm on my laptop again11:55
ORiON2012Dejavu: iptables, they're pretty much all based on iptables11:55
oceandeaddarn beret wearin mac users11:55
llpamiesthanks11:55
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thoreauputicoceandead: darn tinfoil hat wearing Linux users!11:55
oceandeadi think dejavu wants a gui?11:55
Dejavui got firestarter running at the moment .. definately is preety neat !11:55
weejameri wonder why mac users are always blood thrusty to get other users to mas also11:56
oceandeadthoreauputic, hahaha11:56
demantiklol11:56
Dejavuoceandead: yup !  gui is a must11:56
weejamerits like hold on you want a 20 year windows user to change to mac like that11:56
oceandeadmy tinfoil hat protects me from a lot things11:56
chicken-manGUI's = rubbish11:56
gentoo_junkiei think everyone at one point or another figures out that the CLI is the best way to control your comp.11:56
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tencohi all11:57
gentoo_junkietenco: HI! :)11:57
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tencohow can i install math fonts for konqueror?11:57
ORiON2012vot3: the scp transfer inherits permissions from the transfered file....  is there an scp config you can set to define default umask11:57
ORiON2012?11:57
oceandeadDejavu, theres a couple out there11:57
oceandeadfirestarter is one11:57
weejameruntill i see all the windows software on a mac and linux i wont be happy11:58
Dejavubtw .. how much is linux vulnerable to attacts as compared to winxp ?11:58
weejamerunless i am using windows in vmware11:58
HappyFoolyeah, i'm looking forward to linux spyware11:58
tencowhich fonts do i need to install to view mathml in konqueror?11:58
ORiON2012vot3: man, /etc/profile or bashrc doens't work?11:58
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weejameri think windows is a black hole for spyware... just sucking it all in11:59
oceandeadDejavu,  attacks such as11:59
ORiON2012vot3: nm, that's the same suggestion HappyFool had11:59
thoreauputicGator for Linux !11:59
HappyFoolvot3: /etc/profile might only apply to login shells11:59
chicken-manDejavu, Linux is far more secure that windows11:59
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oceandeadspyware? none on linux tiko - viruses not unless you share stuff between it and windows11:59
Dejavuoceandead: net attacks .. like hacking .. trojans and stuff ..11:59
oceandeadand as for gaping holes...a lot less11:59
mikhail^Does anybody here use the anjuta IDE?11:59
weejamerwindows is rubbish for hacks thats why i block it from the net12:00
oceandeadthough its easy to get pwn3d12:00
oceandeadno matter what12:00
abysseverytime ill try to modprobe the rt2500.ko it says :12:00
abyssFATAL: Module rt2500.ko not found.12:00
abyssy?12:00
thoreauputicabyss: leave the .ko off12:00
ORiON2012vot3: I have no idea how to do this except for something like a bash script that would set it explicitlly12:00
oceandeadtry modprobe rt250012:00
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Dejavuhumm . well thats one thing i like abt it .. tough im trying to completely swith to linux:D12:00
abyssthoreauputic, it wont work too12:00
tencowhich fonts do i need to install to view mathml in konqueror?12:00
abyssFATAL: Module rt2500 not found.12:01
oceandeadsudo modprobe rt250012:01
abyssroot terminal12:01
__fabrice__add it to your /etc/modules and reboot12:01
HappyFoolvot3: can you maybe describe what you want to do in more detail? maybe something like 'rsync' would be an appropriate tool12:01
demantikfluxbox kicks ass...gnome can go to hell ;)12:01
oceandeadheh12:01
vot3HappyFool: what other kind of shells are there12:01
chicken-manwoohoo Fluxbox12:01
demantik:D12:01
oceandeadi like xfce12:01
thoreauputic__fabrice__: if he can't modprobe it, it ain't there12:01
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HappyFoolvot3: non-login ;). If you start a gnome-terminal, it won't be a 'login' shell12:02
weejamerwhat  wanna know is how does MS not finally do somthing about the problems... look at linux it is secure so why don;t they work hard and build a winux12:02
demantikyeah xfce is nice...but..it hasnt been working properly lately..fluxbox is still better imo.12:02
ekimusevilwm!12:02
demantikwinux..lmaio12:02
oceandeaddoh! that sucks demantik12:02
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thoreauputicweejamer: Philosophy 10112:02
vot3happyfool: my girlfriend logged into my computer using winscp as she uses windows, but every file she uploads is -rw, as in i want to move the folders she uploads straight to another directory but first i have to change the permissions on them12:02
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demantikhah12:02
weejamerlindows was taken demantik12:02
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oceandeadyeah right ...that would actually take effort on their part12:02
HappyFoolabydos: i don't have a rt2500.ko file on my system; maybe you don't either?12:02
oceandeadtheyre not about quality product12:03
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tencowhich fonts do i need to install to view mathml in konqueror?12:03
vot3and it seems to me like there would be an easy way to set default permissions for files/folders uploaded by users, like umask. i am quite surprised the umask entry in /etc/profiles did not work to12:03
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HappyFoolvot3: hmm12:03
sridwhat does the DVD iso contain apart from the packages in normal Install CD?12:03
vot3the umask i am looking for is 0000, correct?12:03
oceandead00012:03
vot3ah12:03
vot3maybe that explains it12:03
vot3i will try again12:03
HappyFoolvot3: if she's always copying to a specific directory, there may be an easier way12:03
oceandeadallows all rw12:03
weejamerwhy make somthing thats perfect when you can make somthing with faults so the customer will rely on you.... some day that will backfire on microsoft12:03
mikhail^will upgrading to Breezy (eventually when it's released) be as "painless" as the upgrade from Warty to Hoary?12:04
sridmikhail^: hopefully12:04
oceandeadonly way to find out is to wait and see i guess12:04
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Dejavusrid: if ur talking abt the ubuntu new dvd ... i think it gives u option to liveboot and install linux !12:04
thoreauputicmikhail^: my crystal ball says the sky will fall12:04
vot3HappyFool: it usually is a specific directory.12:04
sridDejavu: yes, but are there *extra* packages in it?12:05
oceandeadheh12:05
mikhail^I don't wanna work with any other distro now that I've seen Ubuntu..12:05
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sridDejavu: the DVD iso is of size 2.5g !12:05
oceandeadit did for me but its early yet12:05
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mikhail^(for a desktop distro that is)12:05
HappyFoolvot3: you can try settings the 'set GID bit' on the directory permissions (chmod g+s directoryname)12:05
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HappyFoolvot3: then the files created in that dir be always be of the same group as the directory12:05
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oceandeadi must say, i love ubuntu12:05
vot3no, that does not sound right.12:05
vot3what do you mean same group as the directory?12:06
tencowhich fonts do i need to install to view mathml in konqueror?12:06
HappyFoolvot3: well, the idea is you set the directories group to a group your user is a member of12:06
Dejavusrid: not much i know of it .. but alot of goodies like wine and samba and tons of library files12:06
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HappyFoolvot3: alternatively, just setup samba, and use that for file transfer12:06
oceandeadi dont see a driver module for the rtl8180 chipset in breezy, too bad12:07
vot3and if that group is one that all users share then they will all have +rw to all files uploaded in those dirs?12:07
shortcircuitrequired update to kernel 2.6.10-34.4 broke my sound12:07
vot3HappyFool: why is samba an alternative? would'nt it have trouble with these permissions too?12:07
HappyFoolvot3: hmm. well, you should at least have read rights12:07
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vot3well i can read them12:07
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vot3but i cannot move the folders because a different user put them there12:07
HappyFoolhrm12:08
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vot3if i put my user in her group i will have +rw to her files right?12:08
HappyFoolno12:08
oceandeadis x going to be modular at release? i like that i can take out the drivers i dont need12:08
HappyFoolnot necessarily -- depends on group permissions12:08
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ORiON2012vot3: scp doesn't use a login shell, I've tested locally and by adding "umask ***" to my bashrc (or whatever rc your shell uses it works it worked for me12:08
vot3how do i set group permissions?12:08
oceandeadat breezy release, that is12:08
MichaelHi, where is the archive grup.conf or lilo.conf?12:08
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HappyFoolORiON2012: so scp *does* look at ~/.bashrc ?12:09
HappyFoolMichael: /boot/grub/menu.lst12:09
ORiON2012for me it does12:09
oceandeadsudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst12:09
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HappyFoollilo.conf is probably in /etc12:09
chicken-mancan some one tell me how i would reinstall grub after i install windows 98 ?12:09
HappyFoolORiON2012: cool, will remember that12:09
vot3ORiON2012: so it would not work for files transfered using scp? what kind of protocol does scp use? because it connects on my sshd12:09
HappyFool!grub12:09
uboturumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:09
HappyFoolchicken-man: see those urls12:09
nI've just tried the latest opensuse beta and I'm very impressed with its 'Suspend to disk' shutdown/boot feature which has halved my boot time. Will breezy implement this too?12:09
marcinoceandead: afaik there is no linux driver for rtl818012:10
marcinoceandead: you need to use ndiswrapper (8180 - wireless NIC - right?)12:10
oceandeadah, but there is ...well at least the ones with certain frontends12:10
ORiON2012vot3: is a cron script not feasible for your intentions?12:10
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oceandeadill find the link -12:10
vot3i do not know what a cron sciprt is, but it sounds like overkill12:10
HappyFoolcan't you add 'umask 0000' to your girlfriend's ~/.bashrc ?12:10
vot3this seems like such a small easy thing, ubuntu is very configurable about everything else, i do not see why i would have to script for this12:11
graabeinhey guys, i have no sound. i ran alsamixer and it says master [off] 12:11
vot3HappyFool: i would, but i do not understand the syntax of the file.12:11
oceandeadhttp://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/12:11
HappyFoolvot3: ah. just add that command on a line by itself12:11
Michaelok. Thak you12:11
HappyFoolvot3: say, at the bottom12:11
thoreauputicgraabein: did you hit "m" to unmute?12:11
Dejavuis there a possibiliy of a Kernel that has a super support for Graphics ?12:11
ORiON2012I transfered via scp a file from a server with "umask 002" in my bashrc and it worked12:11
oceandeadive used them with my dwl-650 v.M112:11
nsuspend ram to disk feature in breezy maybe, anybody?12:11
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graabeinthoreauputic, thanks! that did the trick!12:12
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thoreauputicno worries :)12:12
abysslo anyone can help me after reboot my mac the soundserver wont work12:12
HappyFoolvot3: no quotes though -- just        umask 000012:12
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nAre there any ubuntu developers here?12:13
vot3i thought it was umask 00012:13
HappyFooleither should work12:13
thoreauputicvot3: either12:13
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HappyFooln: try #ubuntu-devel  , though they might be off for the weekend12:13
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oceandeadwhat happened to glxinfo ?12:13
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Sp4rKyhi12:14
oceandead"command not found"12:14
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thoreauputicoceandead: X on breezy is in a state of flux12:14
Sp4rKyanyone knows a software as viavoice but over gnome ???12:14
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ORiON2012constant flux12:14
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oceandeadah, ok. thanks thoreauputic12:14
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weejamerhow do i burn mp3 to a cd (am a new linux user)12:14
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topyliHappyFool: yeah, there's only about 130 people on #ubuntu-devel :)12:15
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PurpleMotionORiON2012:  thats exactly how i capitalized the hostname for my irc server ;)12:15
abyssplease anyone help me the sounds works but after reboot ot wont work :/12:15
oceandeadgnomebaker, k3b, etc etc12:15
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ORiON2012PurpleMotion: not sure I follow you12:15
PurpleMotionnvm12:15
HappyFooltopyli: ok, my mistake12:15
thoreauputictopyli: but no one has spoken for 45 minutes12:15
dmoyneHello ! ; Is Brezy installable !12:15
vot3can someoen explain to me how wine works?12:15
topyliidlers and slackers12:16
abyssRhytmbox say cannot open ressource for write access12:16
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ORiON2012PurpleMotion: you weren't referring to the group were you?12:16
weejamerhow do i burn mp3 to a cd (am a new linux user)12:16
vot3ORiON2012: after i edit her .bashrc file this way is there any service i would need to restart for the changes to take effect?12:17
PurpleMotionno i was referring to my old irc server, though i have *coughaffiliationscough* with the group as well12:17
topyliweejamer: do you want an audio cd or just burn the mp3 files on a data cd?12:17
vot3ORiON2012: because i edited that file and it still does not work12:17
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mrttmhi all12:17
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mrttmI need your help now12:17
weejameraudio cd toyli12:17
mrttmI'm a newbie with ubuntu12:17
mrttmI'm impressed by ubuntu12:17
weejamertopyli sorry audio cd12:18
abysswhat i have to use for deinstall a module?12:18
abysswhat ive installed via insmod12:18
mrttmI have probs with my Davicom  NIC card12:18
ORiON2012PurpleMotion: I swear it's just a coincidence,a lthough I wish it wasn't12:18
mrttmi've read through the forum12:18
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thoreauputicmrttm: just ask - if someone can help they will12:18
topyliweejamer: i use serpentine. gnomebaker should work too12:18
oceandeadwell well12:18
mrttmbut I couldn;t found how to solve this probs12:18
bz0bso is ubuntu really the most popular distro at the moment?12:18
bimberiabyss: rmmod12:18
ORiON2012vot3: I just sourced my bashrc and it worked12:18
topyliabydos: rmmod12:19
bz0bor is it just the most used?12:19
thoreauputicbz0b: according to distrowatch, yes12:19
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oceandeadimo, best distro around12:19
bz0bthoreauputic, yes, i saw that12:19
thoreauputicbz0b: not the most used12:19
weejamerthanx topyli i will give it a try12:19
vot3ORiON2012: sourced it?12:19
dmoynePlease is "Breezy" installable ?12:19
vot3ORiON2012: what does that mean?>12:19
mrttmanyone can help me12:19
ORiON2012source ~/.bashrc12:19
bz0byes, imo too, i actually am using kubuntu, but there really isnt much diffrence12:19
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bz0bit was wierd12:19
oceandeaddmoyne, it hasnt been released yet - tell ya anything?12:19
thoreauputicdmoyne: installable, yes. Usable maybe12:19
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abyssdamn y my soundserver cannot play sound now?12:19
mrttmI can't access to anywhre, my LAN, Internet12:19
topylibz0b: well it's the most viewed distro page on distrowatch. we don't know what that means really12:20
bz0bunbuntu was freezing on me at times12:20
bz0btopyli, true12:20
Sp4rKyanyone can help me please12:20
bz0btopyli, what do you use?12:20
topylibz0b: distro? ubuntu12:20
bz0band what is the "best" distro in your opinion, and why?12:20
HappyFoolmrttm: what hardware do you have? What version of ubuntu have you installed? Please give us more details12:21
ORiON2012bz0b: windows? :P12:21
weejamertopyli  i got to a stage where i am about to burn thanx for that12:21
thoreauputicbz0b: oh, we really think buntu sucks - that's why we're here ;)12:21
oceandeadhahaha12:21
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jonkozijn er nederlanders hier12:21
jonko?12:21
dmoyneok thanks last time I tried it I experienced problems with Xorg and therefore I prefer to wait ! ; maybe one question when you install something new like this and it does not work how can you back up to you last good installation set-up with apt ?12:21
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bz0bthoreauputic, exactly ;-)12:21
HappyFool!start a distro war12:21
ubotukubuntu rules over mandriva12:21
mrttmHappyFool, I use Hoary U5.0412:21
topylibz0b: i like ubuntu on the desktop. it's like a stable version of debian unstable that i used earlier :)12:21
sridubotu, test12:21
ubotuCrashed.12:21
bz0btopyli, and 1 cd!12:21
thoreauputic!distrowar12:22
ubotuubuntu is better than yggdrasil !!12:22
ORiON2012lol12:22
mrttmmy NIC is Davicom Semiconductor12:22
abyssi had before i rebooted 2 sounddevices12:22
sridsomebody say my nick12:22
shortcircuitrequired update to kernel 2.6.10-34.4 broke my sound12:22
abyssnow i have only a alsa12:22
weejamersrid12:22
oceandeadmy nick12:22
sridok12:22
weejameroceandead12:22
mikhail^has anybody had any success in building dynamic library projects with Anjuta in Hoary?12:22
topylibz0b: yep. though i'd rather install from the net12:22
HappyFoolmrttm: that is a normal network card? (i.e., ethernet)12:23
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topylibz0b: oh, and ubuntu always has the latest gnome! that's pretty important12:23
mrttmyes12:23
ORiON2012if you really can't find a distro you like then try LFS and leave all other distro chans and forums alone12:23
mrttmI've look around the forum12:23
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jonkohallo12:23
mrttmand found mayny people had the same probs12:23
HappyFooljonko: #ubuntu-nl vir nederlands12:24
vot3ORiON2012: i sourced bonnie's .bashrc file inculding the umask command and the files i copy over vie scp are still locked to me in nautilus, can you explain why?12:24
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bz0btopyli, how do I do that from the install cd?12:24
mrttmbut no one give the complete solution12:24
bz0btopyli, since I really wanted to install from the net12:24
ORiON2012vot3: no, I cannot12:24
bz0btopyli, then it allows you to choose the packages you wnat right? and are up-to-date12:24
mikhail^vot3: are you copying it as root into your user's directory?12:24
dmoyneWhat is LFS ?12:25
ORiON2012linux from scratch12:25
ORiON2012http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/12:25
HappyFoolmrttm: your card is not listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards12:25
rob^linux for suckers12:25
vot3mikhail^: i do not think so. these are files she left in a directory inside of her home directory for me. but my user does not automatically have write access to files and folders in her home dir, and that is what i want12:25
dmoyneyes but when you have it installed how di you find packages you have to recompile everything ?12:25
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mrttmno no, I think it's supported12:26
topylibz0b: it's not supported12:26
mrttmbecause ubuntu can recorgnize this12:26
topylibz0b: at least in hoary12:26
HappyFoolmrttm: ok, so what isn't working? I'm still not really sure what your problem is12:26
bz0btopyli, huh?12:27
mrttmhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54886&highlight=davicom12:27
topylibz0b: net install12:27
mikhail^vot3: you're going to have to add write and read permissions to 1) her home directory and then 2) the diectory you want to have access to.12:27
bz0btopyli, oh12:27
mrttmyou can read this topic12:27
bz0btopyli, is it possible to do a net install though?12:27
mrttmthis is my probs as the guy : Underxp12:27
mikhail^vot3: or, your and her user should be in the same group at least.12:27
topylibz0b: i don't think so12:27
ORiON2012bz0b: hoary is pretty dated, so is breezy (but not nearly as much), if you want cutting edge try gentoo or debian sid, or LFS12:27
vot3mikhail^: ok, then what is the -R switch used for in chmod?12:27
vot3mikhail^: can it just be a mde up group that they are both in?12:28
mikhail^vot3: man chmod12:28
Dejavuhey does anyone know where i can get Game Installers ? (linux installers)12:28
rob^Dejavu, loki games12:28
mrttmI do as the blind0wl said12:28
topylibz0b: hoary is hardly "dated" :)12:28
mrttmbut still not work12:28
ORiON2012Dejavu: http://www.liflg.org/12:29
mrttmand I still don't  now how to reload module dmfe in kernel12:29
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topylibz0b: sorry, talking to ORiON201212:29
mrttmbecause when I remove the tulip module12:29
thoreauputictopyli: OMG MY APPS ARE 6 MONTHS OLD ! WTF ???12:29
Dejavurob^: aaa ... i dont think its working .. it says no connection to Databasr12:29
mrttmthe eth0 config disappear12:29
rob^Dejavu, well it was working the other day, try again later12:29
ORiON2012topyli: compared to debian sarge, sure, compared to gentoo's package tree, it is12:29
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vot3mikhail^: so if i used chmod -R on her home directory i would not normall have to worry about teh dir in her home dir where the files i want to change are, would i?12:29
topylithoreauputic: heh. some things like evince are old though12:29
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thoreauputic;)12:30
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ORiON2012topyli: but I'd never switch12:30
abysslo i found the problem anyone can show me what stands in your /etc/modprobe.conf?12:30
Dejavurob^: will do .. maybe they are updating or something :D12:30
rob^maybe12:30
HappyFoolmrttm: how about the pci=noacpi line?12:30
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Dejavuaaa...  anyother place i can find some installers ?   :D12:30
topyliORiON2012: i care about gnome most, and ubuntu is the most up to date on that front. i think 2.10 has just now hit sid12:30
mikhail^vot3: if you do that on her home directoy, the changes will be made recursively in all her files and directories in her home directory.12:31
mrttmyes12:31
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mrttmi've tried but still not work :(12:31
HappyFoolhmm12:31
ORiON2012Dejavu: http://www.liflg.org/12:31
ORiON2012for the second time12:31
vot3mikhail^: ok, now would an scp file transfer or ssh login do anything to change those permissions? because that is what has been happening. i set the mode i want and then she logs in and transfers files and they ignore the mode i have set, they are locked to me.12:31
Michaelhow to  Define modprobe.conf ?12:31
mrttmHappyFool, how can I reload the module of kernel12:31
HappyFoolmrttm: try 'modprobe'12:31
mrttmI tried12:32
HappyFoolmrttm: i'm not sure exactly what you mean, though12:32
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abyssWARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf exists but does not include /etc/modprobe.d12:32
HappyFoolmrttm: what module do you want to load?12:32
abysshow i can fix that?12:32
Dackelhello12:32
Dackeli have a question12:32
mrttmdmfe12:32
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mrttmI removed tulip module12:32
HappyFoolok12:32
mrttmand want to reload dmfe module12:32
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HappyFoolisn't it already loaded?12:32
mrttmlike wbeck did12:32
HappyFoollsmod|grep dmfe will tell you12:33
mikhail^vot3: well, it depends... if her user has a .bashrc that resets her permissions (or umask), then yes, that'll happen.12:33
DackelGrub is in the ass and now i don't know, how I can boot Ubuntu for repair Grub12:33
mrttmyes12:33
mrttmstill have dmfe12:33
mrttmand not tulip12:33
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mrttmbut the eth0 still can't not appear12:33
HappyFoolhmm12:33
mrttmutil I do modprobe tulip again12:33
vot3mikhail^: well i added the line: umask 000 to her .bashrc but it has not helped. is there some service i need to restart first?12:33
HappyFooltry 'modprobe -r dmfe' and then 'modprobe dmfe'12:33
PegaHmm. I am having problems with apt-get install. It goes well, finds everything, tells me that after extracting x amount of space will be used and asks me to continue (y/n). I press y and then it stops, like I would have pressed n. :|12:33
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mrttmahha12:34
mrttmyes, i'll try now12:34
Dejavuis there a Multimedia player that can stream videos from te web that MediaPlayer on Win does ?12:34
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mikhail^vot3: is the copying the files over from somewhere into her home directory? or is she copying from that directory down to her remote location?12:35
moshwoo hoo12:35
moshfinaly12:35
HappyFoolPega: hmm. have you run 'apt-get update' recently ? (just a guess)12:35
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moshso is Ubuntu good for a novice linux user?12:35
thoreauputicvot3: this all seems rather tortuous - if you have read access to her dir you can scp the files to your own home dir and the permissions will say they belong to you12:35
PegaHappyFool, hmm. Not for a while. Installed updates from the button in the corner of the screen.12:35
Dackelor should I do a re-install?12:35
thoreauputicthen you can write to them...12:35
mrttmHappyFool12:35
mrttmI've success12:36
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mrttmthanks12:36
mrttmI'm so stupid12:36
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ORiON2012mikhail^: I think it's preserving perms and for some reason umask isn't being set, worked for me in my bash scenario, bot won't work for vo3.12:36
mrttmI tried to find how to reload module12:36
DackelThanks for your answers, you ass hole12:36
HappyFoolmrttm: not at all12:36
Hobbseemosh:  yes, it's great for a newbie - i installed it about 2 days ago, and am loving it...12:36
mrttmreload = stop -> start12:36
mrttmI'm so stupid12:36
mrttmthanks again12:36
Dackel+s12:36
mikhail^ORiON2012: how about restarting the ssh server?12:36
HappyFoolmrttm: you may want to 'blacklist' the tulip module somehow -- i'm not sure how that's done12:36
HappyFoolmrttm: glad i could help12:36
moshAwsome12:37
moshI just need to get this going and get Halflife2 running;)12:37
Evanim having problems installing the PHP server12:37
ORiON2012mikhail^: couldn't hurt, but I really have no idea why it works fine for me and not for vot312:37
HappyFoolPega: hmm. ok, try running 'sudo apt-get update' at the command line, and try again12:37
mrttmyes12:37
ORiON2012mikhail^: all I did was add the umask and source my bashrc and it worked12:37
moshwhats best... the DVD or the CD instal???12:37
srijith!lamp12:37
mrttmbut now I must do it all the time I start the machine ?12:37
ubotusomebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP12:37
mrttmor I can't remove it permanent ?12:37
Hobbseemosh: the best bit's the community support - you'd never find all this for windows...google does find things, but not as much as it does for ubuntu12:37
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mrttmor I can remove it permanent ?12:38
Hobbseemosh: either, makes no difference12:38
HappyFoolORiON2012, vot3: could be the windows scp client (complete guess)12:38
mikhail^ORiON2012: maybe he has multiple umask statements in his .bashrc file12:38
ORiON2012vot3: are you using WinSCP?12:38
moshok yeah i figure its the best way to go since i have 939 Venice core..12:38
ORiON2012mikhail^ & HappyFool : both are certainly possible12:38
PegaHappyFool, didn't help12:39
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HappyFoolmrttm: maybe add 'tulip' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist -- i'm not sure that's right12:39
moshim going to guess linux HL2 sucks though because of wine...12:39
mrttmyes12:39
mrttmtks12:39
HappyFoolPega: hmm. and no error message?12:39
ORiON2012mosh: not really, I haven't noticed any difference between my windows andlinux boxes12:39
mrttmi'll find myself12:39
moshI normaly get like 200 fps in windows...12:40
Hobbseemosh: why dont you try and see?  dual boot it...12:40
mrttmto improve my stupid mind12:40
bz0bsee yall soon12:40
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mrttmif I had a probs again12:40
moshlol version me.12:40
mrttmI'll ask you12:40
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mrttmdo you have YM nick ?12:40
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PegaHappyFool, nothing. Just "Do you want to continue (y/n)?" and whatever I press, it acts if I had pressed n.12:41
moshIm running the live version12:41
moshlol12:41
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akanjaHi everybody!12:42
vot3ORiON2012: i am using winsco to test the downloads, but no, i am trying to just use nautilus to move the files into MY home dir after she has uploaded them into HER  home dir from her remote location12:42
DarkRaikahi12:42
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Dejavuis there a Multimedia player that can stream videos from te web that MediaPlayer on Win does ?12:42
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mrttmgoodbye and tks again, HappyFool12:42
akanjaanybody ready to guide me a bit through 'hoary sound hell' :-) ?12:42
HappyFoolmrttm: cheers12:43
ORiON2012Dejavu: vlc12:43
HappyFoolPega: and if you just hit enter?12:43
vot3the thing is i ghave to keep changing and keep changing these modes everytime a new file comes in12:43
DejavuORiON2012, should i do "apt-get install vlc" ?  and will it automatically start when i click on the stream button ?12:43
vot3instead of the permissions on the file being what i want them to be12:44
ORiON2012Dejavu: what is this magical steram button you speak of?12:44
PegaHappyFool, you just made me a happy fool. :)12:44
PegaIt is alive!12:44
thoreauputicvot3: then as I said. all you need is read access - if you scp the files as yourself the ownership will change to your user, which means you can then write to them - have I missed something? Works here...12:44
PegaOr sumthing. works anyways. thx12:44
HappyFoolheh. still, a bit odd. you'd think y would work12:45
ORiON2012vot3: sorry but I'm out of ideas, it works for me, doesn't for you, its either a client issue or something wrong with .bashrc (assuming that's the file you put it in)12:45
DejavuORiON2012, i mean when i get accros a video that can be directly streamed (or viewed) so i dont have to download it12:45
vot3ORiON2012: i think it should be working too, what you suggested. do i need to source the .bashrc file as root?12:45
ORiON2012Dejavu: how wide of a network are you looking to stream to? over the internet? or just a lan?12:46
vot3thoreauputic: i have no reason to scp the files as my user, it is useless. i have nautilus12:46
HappyFoolthe .bashrc file should be consulted everytime your girlfriend runs scp12:46
ORiON2012as whatever user you are transfering the files as, ~/ will apply to whatever user you are currently acting as12:46
thoreauputicvot3: *cough* it's the same whether you do it in nautlus or CLI12:46
DejavuORiON2012, ill send u a link .. maybe that can help me explain :)12:46
HappyFoolvot3: try testing it yourself, using scp to copy to localhost; maybe you can debug it that way12:46
vot3well i am running winscp under wine to test the file transfers, that is what i have been doing12:47
vot3every file i send over has the incorrect permissions when it lands in nautilus12:47
HappyFoolhmm12:47
HappyFoolok, try just 'scp' from the command-line? same thing?12:47
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akanjaI installed hoary on a machine with a soundblaster 128, (plus an i810 onboard sound) . The SB128 turned out to be faulty, so i ripped out of the box and re-enabled the onboard sound  in BIOS. But can't get the sound working.... Read the wiki, searched google.... and got lost in all the contradicting and outdated information, hmmm12:47
zerboxxDoes anyone here use linksysmon??12:48
ORiON2012vot3: Is WinSCP proven to be fully functional under wine?  This could be part of the problem12:48
ORiON2012vot3: Why not use scp fromt he commad line to test?12:48
vot3everything i have ever used under wine has been perfect12:48
vot3ORiON2012: i am not familiar with scp12:48
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vot3i am more comfortable with a gui, as well12:49
topylivot3: you hardly need winscp to use scp on linux12:49
ORiON2012vot3: man scp, its' really easier than you think12:49
HappyFoolscp src localhost:/home/vot3/dst12:49
vot3thoreauputic: i was testing it out for her, because she uses windows and i wanted to make sure it would work12:49
thoreauputicvot3: ahh - OK my bad :)12:50
topylivot3: gftp can use ssh too12:50
HappyFooljust use scp to test -- i.e., to check if the problem is winscp or your server setup12:50
ORiON2012vot3: I assure you that winscp works flawlessly under windows, we can12:50
ORiON2012can't make that assumption for linux12:50
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DejavuORiON2012, goto "www.bbcworld.com/clickonline"  ... check the link on the middle left side .. it says winmeadia "low,med,high". the whole show can be viewed from the site ..12:50
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BrainbugQuestion: Is there guide for "visual programming" under ubuntu? I come from a visual studio background and i'm looking something similar. The languaje can be either C/C++ or C#.12:51
ORiON2012Dejavu: it's probably windows media player 9, if you figure out an easy way to make it work, let me know12:51
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catfoxmorning all. i'm just starting to use glade, and i've got a problem.12:52
DejavuORiON2012, lolz .. will do :)  .. thanks for helpin tough !12:52
catfoxi've added a toolbar, and i want the buttons to align to the right, like regular gnome apps. but i can only get them on the left of the window. does anyone know how to get them on the right?12:52
thoreauputicvot3: re: GUI - you can drag and drop files over scp/sftp using nautilus - just type ssh://user@hostname12:53
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ORiON2012Dejavu: you can't use helix or relaplayer to play the stream?12:53
vot3thoreauputic: i am not the one making the connection though, she is. all i need is for the files she uploads to have the correct permissions so i do not have to chmod everytime she uploads something12:53
milksteakmplayer plugin for firefox should work12:53
ibawhat do i do.. i put the install cd in and i get kernel panic - attempted to kill init!12:54
vot3i am doing something wrong, the umask command will work when i figure out what it is12:54
DejavuORiON2012, ive tried realplayer .. it does works .. but on somesites it dosent (winmed9 is req). i havent tried helix so far12:54
ORiON2012Dejavu: I take that back, works fine in mplayer-plug-in12:54
vot3i do not understand the point of 'sourcing' a file though12:54
vot3that is where i went wrong12:54
ORiON2012Dejavu:  sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer12:55
HappyFoolvot3: you don't need to source the file, unless you want to test it12:55
DejavuORiON2012, np .. i was just checkin the ubuntu unofficial guide . and in it there is an mplayer plugin ... ill try that and if successful , ill let u know :)12:55
urezinhalt12:55
HappyFoolvot3: it should get 'sourced' when the connection is made12:55
DejavuORiON2012, yeah .. thats the one ..12:55
ORiON2012Dejavu: ignore that, I'm on breezy, I keep forgetting12:55
ORiON2012Dejavu: oh, nvm then12:55
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hexionhello12:55
topylivot3: the environment specified by bashrc only takes hold at new shells or after sourcing the file12:56
ibaanyoner?12:56
DejavuORiON2012, lolz .. u need a soda break ;)12:56
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vot3topyli: the connection from winscp would be considered a new shell though right?12:56
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hexionwhen I try to install ati drivers, an error occurs. It is "nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file"  Anyone can help me???12:56
BrainbugIt's there a guide to helping making programs for the ubuntu project?12:56
HappyFoolvot3: fwiw, samba has a 'force create mode' option, which will let you specify a mode for files it creates12:56
ORiON2012vot3: I only sourced the file because I was in a terminal, I (stupidly) assumed you were too12:56
volvoguyis anyone else having problems with the new kernel that showed up in hoary recently?12:57
iba..12:57
vot3ORiON2012: actually i am in a terminal.12:57
volvoguymy system won't even boot now. :(12:57
topylivot3: i have no idea :)12:57
hexionplease somebody help me :(12:57
hexionwhen I try to install ati drivers, an error occurs. It is "nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file"  Anyone can help me???12:57
ORiON2012Dejavu: nah, I just need another lugradio eps to keep me calm12:57
HappyFoolhexion: are you following the instructions on the wiki?12:58
HappyFool!ati12:58
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI12:58
hexionok, Ill read it. Thanks12:58
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ORiON2012HappyFool: ubotu is your best friend :)12:58
hexionI'm new in ubuntu, I come from suse and its all different :)12:59
HappyFoolnah, he's got too much attitude ;)12:59
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ORiON2012HappyFool: I noticed, Ubuntu, the hippy of linux has a rude bot...12:59
hexionthanks a lot, I read it and come back to tell you if I solved it or if I need your help :)12:59
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HappyFoolhexion: cool. it should work ;)01:00
hexionone last thing..01:00
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hexionI downloaded a -bin file (50 MB) from ati.com01:00
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hexionshould I better do an app-get?01:01
ORiON2012ok, this is depressing me, does anyone have advice for vot3?01:01
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HappyFoolmy word of advice is to use samba instead01:01
HappyFoolcreate an anonymous, wolrd-writeable share01:01
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dockanehi all01:02
ORiON2012HappyFool: oh, vot3 left01:02
Dejavuby everyone .. and thanks for the help :)01:02
HappyFoolor alternatively, create a restricted share and use the 'force create mode' option01:02
HappyFoolah well01:02
thoreauputicORiON2012: is she upploading files to *his* home dir, or to an accoun of her own? If the second, he can read her files in her home dir on his box and cp them to his own home dir to change the ownership - I think he has it all backwards01:02
hexionI think Ill follow the wiki instructions and make an app-get (I suppose the 50 MB of the .bin file will go to the trash)01:03
HappyFoolhe wanted to move the files, not just copy them01:03
reikican someone check www.yardbird.net and see if it's up? And is there a general network outage in the US .... possibly great lakes area?01:03
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ORiON2012thoreauputic: he's downloading files to her home, which he loggged in as whie testing, but he couldn't read those files from HIS home01:03
dockanei am looking for a way to make the updates indicated by the 2 red arrow circle in the upper right corner of gnome install automagically and silently. whats the best way ?01:03
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zerboxxIf I want to run a program every 30 minutes, how would I do this (I've read to use cron, but I have no idea what I'm to do)?????01:04
hexionIm loving ubuntu... theres no comparison with suse01:04
ORiON2012thoreauputic: but with the correct umask it shuldn't matter... right01:04
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thoreauputicHappyFool: but *nix quite rightly doesn't allow users to move other people's files01:04
topylireiki: yardbird seems to be down01:04
HappyFoolthoreauputic: yeah, his higher-level requirements were a bit fuzzy. i'm also not sure why he chose scp over samba01:04
thoreauputic*shrug*01:05
mikhail^ORiON2012: you did say while she's logged in, right?01:05
hexionI have to reboot. Thanks happyfool01:05
hexionbye01:05
HappyFoolgood luck01:05
ORiON2012mikhail^: I thought he logged in AS her01:05
reikitopyli: thanks.. very weird01:05
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mikhail^ORiON2012: If she doesn't log out and log in again, the .bashrc wouldn't take effect01:06
ORiON2012mikhail^: logged in as her via winscp wine, then tried to copy the files via nautilus ( his real user)01:06
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ORiON2012I just thought the whole winscp was a bit weird01:06
thoreauputicORiON2012: I don't mean to be rude, but I think PEBCAK in his case01:06
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ORiON2012thoreauputic: I have no comment senator01:07
thoreauputicORiON2012: heh ;)01:07
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funkyHathow can i enable system sounds without locking up alsa (i have software mixing set up, but still gnome locks up the soundcard)01:08
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andre80hi01:13
andre80i m andre from indonesia01:13
Hobbseehi andre01:13
andre80hi hobbsee01:13
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andre80i m new to ubuntu, i just received my cd today01:14
andre80I connected to internet via bluetooth modem01:14
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thoreauputicandre80: welcome :)01:14
andre80will anybody tell what should I download so that I can connect to internet01:14
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andre80rite now I m stil using my windows box01:14
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andre80I happen to like ubuntu and planning to migrate as soon as possible01:15
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abyssexists anywhere a memory managing prog for ubuntu?01:15
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thoreauputicabyss: well, yes - it's called the linux kernel I believe...01:16
thoreauputicabydos: what do you mean "memory managing" ?01:16
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Frafrahi all01:17
andre80hi Frafra01:17
thoreauputicabyss: sorry that was for you not abydos01:17
FrafraI've read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457501:17
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Frafrathen... i've try to install qemu (with apt-get):01:18
Frafra[...] 01:18
FrafraPreconfiguring packages ...01:18
Frafradpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file01:18
FrafraE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)01:18
Frafrawho can help me?01:18
andre80about bluetooth modem ...01:18
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satafterhhello everyone01:18
abyssthoreauputic, cause if i start the system and all was started it use 200mb of memory and 100mb free01:18
abyssbut if i start some progs and end it again the memory wont be free01:19
satafterhwhere can I download the lastest stable kernel and what verson would that be??01:19
thoreauputicabyss: linux handles all that01:19
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_mariowhere can i get spamassassin from?01:20
thoreauputicabyss: it uses as much memory as possible -RAM is orders of magnitude more efficient than disc01:20
_mariodo i have to add an additional apt-source?01:20
abyssthoreauputic,  it cannot be that my systems eat with no use 305MB memory01:20
funkyHatandre80, it looks like noone knows, can you give us some more info about the modem? like a model number or manufacturer?01:20
thoreauputicabyss: most of what you see is cache and buffers01:20
HappyFool_mario: it's in universe01:20
_marioHappyFool: that means? what to do for me?01:21
HappyFool!repos01:21
ubotuI heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:21
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HappyFoolmario: read those two links; they should help. let us know if they don't01:21
_marioHappyFool: oki01:21
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andre80!repos01:21
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:21
andre80!bluetooth01:21
ubotuandre80: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:21
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andre80!driver01:22
ubotuandre80: I don't know, could you explain it?01:22
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HappyFoolandre80: try '/query ubotu' if you want to ask the bot lots of questions01:22
andre80thx01:22
andre80I just recognize that ubotu is a bot01:23
HappyFoolandre80: also looke on https://wiki.ubuntu.com, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex for more info01:23
thoreauputicabyss: type " free -m " in a terminal and read the cache and buffers - subtract to get a better idea of your memory use01:23
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HappyFoolyou may find info about your hardware there01:23
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satafterhI have an amd atlon 2600+ running a 386 kernel, would I notice any differance with a k7 or 686 kernel01:23
vot3can someone help me with repairing a package on my computer? i installed the set@home program from a debian package instead of using synaptic and now i have problems01:23
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andre80ubotu doesn't respond01:24
ubotuandre80: I give up, what is it?01:24
HappyFoolandre80: type something in the query window (e.g., ubotu)01:24
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funkyHatthis is so annoying. whenever i upgrade packages, or install new ones, synaptic says that they are 'NOT AUTHENTICATED'. things like the kernel, which really should be authenticated...01:24
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mikhail^anybody here has any experience with autotools?01:24
bimberiandre80: in a /query window the ! at the start is no longer required01:24
andre80ubotu said nothing01:25
andre80I tiped a lot there01:25
ubotuandre80: Bugger all, i dunno01:25
HappyFoolvot3: have you tried 'sudo dpkg --purge <packagename>'01:25
chicken-manHow do i delete my second Linux partition /dev/hda2 ?01:25
funkyHatdoes everyone else's software authenticate properly?01:25
HappyFoolandre80: hmm01:25
thoreauputicfunkyHat: do an apt-get update01:25
HappyFoolandre80: works for me01:26
HappyFoolandre80: try '/msg ubotu ubotu' and see what happens01:26
azriel0184ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass01:26
bimberiandre80: that might be because your nick isn't registered01:26
andre80i just registered my nick01:26
vot3HappyFool: thank you01:26
andre80and ubotu starts listening01:26
andre80thx01:26
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abyssthoreauputic, Mem:           313        284         28          0         14        15001:27
chicken-mani need to delete my second ubuntu partition how do i do it ?01:27
bimberiandre80: that was quick :)01:27
nophixchicken-man: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda01:27
thoreauputicabyss: I assure you the linux kernel is handling your memory just fine01:27
andre80he has no clue01:27
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HappyFoolandre80: look on the wiki; you will find more info there01:27
HappyFoolhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com01:28
vot3does anyone here use setiathome?01:28
andre80ubotu has no clue, oh my01:28
ubotuandre80: Are you on ritalin?01:28
andre80where can I get an answer to my question01:28
andre80wiki oh wiki here I come01:28
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ORiON2012yup ubotu knows all about 4201:28
chicken-mani think i done it how do i check all my partitions ?01:29
andre80and he ask me wether I m on ritalin01:29
andre80!ritalin01:29
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, andre8001:29
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andre80!dweeb01:29
ubotuandre80: What?01:29
andre80!driver01:29
ubotuandre80: What?01:29
thoreauputicandre80: ubotu only knows what he has been told :)01:29
Habibwho are you man?01:29
andre80can I teach him something ? :)01:29
andre80can I can I ?01:29
chicken-manhow do i see what partitions i have ?01:30
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HappyFoolchicken-man: sudo fdisk -l01:30
thoreauputicchicken-man:  fdisk -l01:30
ORiON2012thoreauputic: ubotu knows the ultimate meaning of life, what more could it need?01:30
dawkirstWhen will an official release for OpenOffice.Org2 happen?01:30
Habibyou ask mee??01:30
andre80how about cat partitions at /proc01:30
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chicken-manit's still showing /dev/hda2 :-(01:30
thoreauputic!life01:30
ubotuthoreauputic: Do they come in packets of five?01:30
ORiON2012dawkirst: that would be a question for openoffice.org01:30
thoreauputic!love01:31
ubotuLove is just a collection of electrochemical reactions and synaptic discharges01:31
Hobbseedawkirst: no idea, but it seems to be pretty stable now01:31
thoreauputichahah01:31
Habibhahahha01:31
dawkirstHobbsee: I see.01:31
andre80!stable01:31
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, andre8001:31
andre80!yes01:31
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, andre80?01:31
chicken-manhow do i delete /dev/hda2 ?01:31
andre80use partition magic01:31
liablefdisk01:31
liablecfdisk01:31
vot3can someone tell me how to fix this error? Connecting to alien.ssl.berkeley.edu[128.32.18.176] :21... connected.01:31
abyssthoreauputic, exists a way to disable any effects on system cause i have only a ppc 400mhz01:31
vot3Logging in as anonymous ...01:31
HabibPeople of america! you will wake up to a another world to morrow!!01:32
vot3Login incorrect.01:32
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HappyFooland the people not of america? the same world?01:32
azriel0184ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass01:32
HappyFoolvot3: looks like it's not allowing anonymous logins01:32
ORiON2012vot3: something tells me your login info is not correct01:32
Habibyes01:32
thoreauputicabyss: I don't understand your question - if you are still worrying about your RAM, you misunderstood what I was saying01:32
liablehSTFU.01:33
vot3HappyFool: how do i configure it to login as my user name, any idea?01:33
HappyFoolvot3: what are you trying to do?01:33
andre80People of Ubuntu, you will wake up in friendship tomorrow01:33
ORiON2012koombai-ah my lord...01:34
HappyFoolvot3: i think you can create a .netrc file for auto ftp username/password, but that is seriously '90's ;)01:34
abyssthoreauputic,  no i understand but cpu usage like 20 - 30 %01:34
Habibwhat cain of device.??01:34
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ORiON2012Habib: huh?01:34
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_marioHappyFool: i got it working, thx!01:35
abyssthoreauputic, if i only move the mouse for a while01:35
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Habibwhat did say!??01:35
vot3HappyFool: i am trying to use the setiathome client01:35
HappyFool_mario: great01:35
HappyFoolvot3: i'm afraid i'm not familiar with that software; maybe read their homepage, or look in /usr/share/doc/setiathome (or /usr/share/doc/<packagename>) for more01:35
vot3HappyFool: thank you01:36
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andre80I have trouble opening wiki ubuntu01:36
thoreauputicabyss: is your mchine very slow? Or just reasonably OK for a 400mhz machine?01:36
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chicken-manwhat is the normal Dos win98 partition called the are a lot of dos :-/01:36
andre80!fire01:36
ubotuandre80: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:36
HappyFoolFAT01:36
andre80fat3201:37
HappyFoolchicken-man: don't erase extended partitions willy-nilly01:37
HappyFoolandre80: what's the problem with the wiki?01:37
tomajhow do you stop kernel updates from changing a specific entry? do you have to put it on the end?01:37
abyssi think for 400mhz risc a little bit slow01:37
tomajsorry this is in reference to grub01:37
andre80no more problems, just now I cannot open01:37
andre80I m new to ubuntu01:38
HappyFooltomaj: I think put the entries after '## END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST'01:38
tomajno other way?01:38
thoreauputicabyss: if you want to reduce the load, you can use a different desktop - for example install xfce401:38
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srijithor fluxbox :)01:38
chicken-manwhat one ? theres a W95 FAT32 and a W95 FAT32 (LBA) ?01:38
thoreauputicsrijith:  +1   ;)01:38
andre80o ya ubuntu works fine on my fujitsu box01:39
srijithfor a new machine for with LBA chicken-man01:39
HappyFoolchicken-man: maybe paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on a pastebin so we know what you're talking about01:39
srijithnew as in not an old machine01:39
andre80fujitsu laptop i mean01:39
chicken-manwhat is LBA ?01:39
katzordoes anyone know if we have chances to see anjuta-2* in breezy?01:39
ORiON2012katzor: not sure, but woud be nice01:40
srijithlogical block addressing01:40
ORiON2012katzor: anjuta 2.* is still very much in testing01:40
chicken-mani am going to delete my /dev/hda2 partition which is my old ubuntu one and replace it with a dos one so i can reinstall windows 98 SE01:40
ORiON2012katzor: so most likely not01:40
katzorORiON2012, too bad01:40
srijithchicken-man, http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesLBA-c.html01:40
katzorORiON2012, thenks fr the info01:40
andre80buhuhu ubuntu not yet support bluetooth modem buhuhu01:40
chicken-mani'll just try the W95 FAT3201:41
andre80ubuntu anak yg manis, anak manis janganlah merokok sayang kl merokok... lho kok merokok ...01:41
katzorORiON2012, i would complie it myself, but i dot get gsl compiled, which is a dep01:41
chicken-manwoohoo done01:41
chicken-manwish me luck, i got to reinstall grub after grrrr01:42
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ORiON2012katzor: it's in breezy, gsl that is01:42
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abyssthoreauputic, how about java runtime for ubuntu?01:45
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BollocksMacenzieCould someone tell me what is wrong with this command. It keeps coming up with a syntac error... zenity --text-info --text-info-filename=acpi.txt01:46
thoreauputic!java01:46
ubotuI heard java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:46
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thoreauputicabyss: ^^^^01:46
abyssthx01:46
azriel0184ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass01:46
BollocksMacenzieI've tried every combination of quotemarks and = and it still doesn't work.01:46
blrichhas anyone had experiences here with a geforce fx 5500 randomly crashing their machine with 'nvidia-glx' installed and xorg using driver nvidia?01:46
ORiON2012go-go gadget wiki01:46
blrichbecause i have =P01:46
andre80!j2ee01:46
ubotuandre80: Do they come in packets of five?01:46
ORiON2012!j2se01:46
ubotuORiON2012: Do they come in packets of five?01:46
andre80!yes01:46
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, andre80?01:47
ORiON2012useless01:47
andre80!useless01:47
ubotuNot a clue, andre8001:47
blrichcan anyone help? having problems with a geforce fx5500, can't find anything on the forums01:47
HoxzerOriOn: are you usefull anymore?01:47
andre80!brain01:47
ubotuandre80: I give up, what is it?01:47
HappyFoolBollocksMacenzie: hmm. maybe the file needs to have a specific syntax?01:47
ORiON2012Hoxzer: never have been01:47
Hoxzer:< sad01:48
HappyFoolBollocksMacenzie: allow --help-text-info doesn't imply that, so i guess not01:48
andre80may I help you by teaching ubotu a thing or two01:48
andre80ubotu too stupid to ask to01:48
ubotuandre80: No idea01:48
thoreauputicandre80: if you want play with the bot, do it in /msg please01:48
andre80ubotu shut up01:48
ubotuandre80: I give up, what is it?01:48
ORiON2012HappyFool: is problem fixer extraordinaire01:48
thoreauputic!botabuse01:48
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.01:48
BollocksMacenzieHappyFool: I know it's driving me nuts!01:48
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HappyFoolBollocksMacenzie: hmm. try   zenity --text-info --filename=acpi.txt01:50
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HappyFoolBollocksMacenzie: that --help-text-info is apparently out of date -- check the GNOME help (System -> Help) instead01:51
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BollocksMacenzieIt works, and yep, I think the information is rather out of date!01:51
Aklyscan someone help me out with figuring out what my sound card is that doesn't work with ubuntu01:52
Aklysbut it was detected and worked with fedora so trying to figure out the difference01:52
HappyFool!sound01:53
ubotufrom memory, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/01:53
HappyFoolthose links might help you get started01:53
Aklysthanks01:53
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andre80Aklys: what is your sound card ?01:54
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somedude_Hey!01:54
ORiON2012Oh wise HappyFool (kind of a misnomer), where can we learn your awesome bot powers?01:54
funkyHatthoreauputic, you know you said do an apt-get update? well i'll let you know once it's done... :/01:54
thoreauputicfunkyHat: ? it won't run or what?01:55
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HappyFoolORiON2012: :P. /query ubotu and type 'help'. also 'ubotu' -- gives you an URL where you can search the factoids01:55
funkyHatno, it's just taking forever because some of the repos are timing out01:55
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somedude_when installing i only got to configure a non root useraccount, and i got package failures.. tried to fix them but couldnt as non root.. ???01:55
ORiON2012HappyFool: sweet01:55
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HappyFoolsomedude_: use 'sudo' to get root access; read the link below01:56
HappyFool!sudo01:56
ubotusudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:56
Fubhas anyone had problems with the kernel update from today?01:56
thoreauputicfunkyHat: :(01:56
somedude_ok, *reading*01:56
HappyFoolFub: a few people have, it seems. i haven't rebooted since installing it01:56
Fubit's giving me a kernel panic01:56
thoreauputicFub: judging by the questions here, a number have, yes01:56
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jfk303hey, all my desktop icons have gone, and right click doesn't work on the desktop anymore, whats the command to restart the desktop? pkill gnome or something??01:57
thoreauputicHappyFool: heh -I haven't installed a new kernel for 58 days (had trouble with the update then too)01:57
ORiON2012and after all these kernel issue, it's going to be runnning for a while01:57
funkyHati do have hoary-extras and nooms. they seem to be causing some problems, but they shouldn't affect authentication of core packages should they?01:57
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Fubis there a simple way to make a rollback?01:58
guzuhello all01:58
somedude_HappyFool, aha.. ok thanks! One more liittle Q - whats the password? Do i set it the first time i sudo or??01:58
thoreauputic 21:58:16 up 58 days,  6:16,  2 users,  load average: 0.06, 0.01, 0.0001:58
HappyFoolsomedude_: it's your user password (whatever you login with)01:58
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guzuanybody knows a way to make isa sound card work with ubuntu (5.04) ?01:59
somedude_aah, ok.. weird! but ill try.. my first with ubuntu! :) used slack a few  years back.. ! Thanks again :)01:59
ORiON2012thoreauputic: if only I had the cash for the electricity bill to keep everything running all the time...01:59
guzugravis ultrasound ace01:59
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jfk303just got disconnected, its not pkill gnome :), did anyone answer my question: how to (not restart now) but fix my desktop?02:00
somedude_*poff*02:00
Fubdo anyone if I can go back to my previous kernel?02:00
thoreauputicORiON2012: hey it's winter here - I cut down my heating bill by runnng my boxen 24/7 ;-)02:00
ORiON2012Fub: you can select previous kernels at the bootloader (grub) menu on boot02:01
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Aklyswhat does "pass isapnp=0 to modprobe" mean?02:01
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FubORiON2012, hmm... bummer, there aren't any that works02:02
HappyFoolAklys: i *think* it means add "isapnp=0" to the end of the modprobe command02:03
FubI guess it didn't keep the one from before today's update02:03
guzuAklys, maybe means "don't probe for isa pnp"02:03
HappyFoolAklys: so, 'sudo modprobe modulename isapnp=0' -- that is a guess, though02:03
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ORiON2012Aklys: I know it's used in ALSA quite a bit02:03
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ORiON2012Aklys: In fact it's in the ALSA-configuration.txt02:04
Aklysit's mean to be done for when you have a isa card02:04
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Aklysoh ok not sure what the modulename is then02:04
jaqkaraloa02:04
guzuAklys, are there any docs for setting up an isa sound card in ubuntu?02:06
HappyFoolFub: yeah, looks the kernel upgrade overwrites /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-38602:06
guzuor alsa02:06
Sauron21hi ...I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to run .jar files on ubuntu....I have all of javas programms(java development kit and runtime file).....I just dont what the command is to run the fil02:06
guzuSauron21, try java -jar *jar02:06
HappyFoolFub: i have one idea, which might not work. Do you have an ubuntu live cd ?02:06
Sauron21that does not work.....02:07
Fubwell, I'm trying to download an install cd02:07
HappyFool!java02:07
ubotujava is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:07
Aklysguzu looking at the one that HF triggered for me02:07
Sauron21it just say that "java" is not a command02:07
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Fubbut my internet is slow right now for some reason02:07
guzuSauron21, then you have not java in your path, find out where it is02:07
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HappyFoolFub: well, anyway, my idea is to boot from the livecd, chroot into your ubuntu install, and use dpkg to install an older kernel02:08
Sauron21how do I do that?02:08
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HappyFoolto install java, please see the url ubotu posted earlier02:08
guzuAklys, since i've logged in, i see no link02:08
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FubHappyFool, can't I boot into linux from an install cd02:08
guzuHappyFool, do you know of any doc available for setting an isa sound card in ubuntu>?02:08
Fub?02:09
Sauron21I think my java is in /usr/java/02:09
Sauron21isent that where it should be?02:09
Fubnm02:09
guzuFub, try linu root=/dev/yourrootpartition02:09
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ORiON2012Sauron21: that all depends02:09
FubI'll download the live cd02:09
HappyFoolFub: the live cd might be easier; the install CD is less flexible02:09
guzuFub, of course you can start also the linux on live cd :)02:09
HappyFoolguzu: um, not sure02:09
morbidiFub: if you know command line02:09
morbidisure02:09
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manu__hey ciao02:10
thoreauputicSauron21: /usr/java/ is not in your pathe by default02:10
thoreauputic*path02:10
manu__i m looking to upgrade from debian to ubuntu02:10
manu__maybe you can help me02:10
manu__i m scared to loose my files02:10
ORiON2012Sauron21: mine happens to be in /usr/lib, it all depends on where it was installed, if it was installed at all.02:10
topylimanu__: don't upgrade, it can be messy. make a new installation02:10
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guzuwich .deb provides isapnp?02:11
manu__and i just paste my main folder from debian ... wright?02:11
manu__so i can keep my files02:11
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HappyFoolisapnptools -- i think -- it's in universe02:11
guzumanu__, you probbably wanna save your /home partition02:11
thoreauputicguzu:  do  apt-cache search isapnp02:12
manu__yes02:12
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topylimanu__: is your /home on a partition of its own?02:12
guzuthoreauputic, k thnx02:12
manu__yes02:12
manu__think so02:12
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theineIs somebody packaging Quake III already?02:12
topylimanu__: then it's easy. install ubuntu, but don't format the /home partition02:12
manu__ok02:13
topylimanu__: but don't "think". you have to be sure :)02:13
manu__never02:13
manu__hihihiihih02:13
guzulol02:13
topylihah02:13
ORiON2012theine: why? It's so much fun to build from source.02:13
guzumanu__, to be safe, save the content of /home somewhere, like another hard drive or an dvd02:13
manu__yes02:13
manu__i have externel drive02:13
manu__this should work02:14
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manu__so i just boot from the cd02:14
manu__and install new ubuntu02:15
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manu__so thanks a much guzu02:15
manu__:)02:15
guzumanu__, nothing to thank for02:15
manu__maybe see one s again02:16
jaqkarthoreauputic: howdie mate :)02:16
thoreauputichi jaqkar :)02:16
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topyliq3a packages would be nice02:17
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guzucsound02:20
guzuwrong kbd sorry02:20
giggseyGrub help - If I add my windows installation as a grub option, and have it first on the list, do I have to have 'boot' on the last line of the entry02:20
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guzugiggsey, default=002:21
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giggseyo_O02:21
guzuto make it default02:21
giggseyok02:21
ompaulgiggsey, the setting default= points at which stanza after the the section commences that it points at02:21
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giggseyso if its last02:21
giggseyit will be 302:22
Belutztopyli: what happened at sept 7?02:22
ompaulgiggsey, if it is the third stanza02:22
guzugiggsey, yes if you have 4 entries02:22
giggseyok02:22
vot3hello #ubuntu02:22
vot3even though i just switched to kde02:22
ompaulhello vot302:22
guzugiggsey, note that default=... should appear before any menu entry02:22
vot3how are you all?02:22
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topyliBelutz: gnome 2.12 should be released, and breezy preview should come out :)02:22
giggseythat will mean no 'boot' at the end of Windows option02:23
guzugiggsey, yes02:23
guzusee info grub for examples02:23
Belutztopyli: ic... sept 7 is also my birthday hehehehe lol02:23
ompaulvot3, given that there are 477 in the channel maybe not the best of questions :)|-<02:23
topyliBelutz: nice birthday presents coming up =)02:23
Belutztopyli: yup :D02:24
jaqkarquite calm in here today :P02:25
topyliBelutz: being impatient, i broke a box at work with breezy one day. it looks pretty darn good once it stabilizes02:25
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Belutztopyli: what are the main features of breezy compared to hoary?02:26
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thoreauputicompaul: for each in nicks ; do echo " $each is fine, thanks " ; done02:26
thoreauputic;-)02:26
topyliBelutz: i only looked at gnome really. you can see the new features in davyd's "sneak peek" page02:27
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ompaulthoreauputic, hehe02:27
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dv__hi02:27
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dv__I have a slight problem with the mouse.02:27
Belutztopyli: yup, i really like gnome compared to KDE, but i think KDE is more developed, CMIIW02:27
dv__i have a laptop with a touchpad02:27
dv__the pad works fine, except that I had to configure the tap time manually in the xorg.conf (its a synaptic touchpad)02:28
dv__I can also connect an USB mouse, however the USB mouse moves too slowly02:28
dv__and the mouse settings do not change that02:28
Belutzdv__: my synaptic touchpad runs well out of the box02:28
dv__now I forgot how the sensitivity setting in xorg.conf is naemd02:29
dv__named02:29
dv__Belutz, mine too, but I wanted that tap-to-click feature disabled02:29
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topyliBelutz: they're different for sure. some people even seem to prefer kde :)02:29
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dv__so anyone knows the xorg.conf option for mouse sensitivity?02:29
Belutzdv__: i once found a package that can control the synaptic touchpad, but i forgot the url :(02:30
topyliBelutz: found the page: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/02:30
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Belutztopyli: thx :)02:30
BelutzAlong with over 200 bugs fixed, Nautilus now sports a spatial tree file view, popularised in the original Apple Macintosh operating systems. <--- WOW02:32
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kikitohello guy!02:32
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kikitoguys02:32
snippyhello people02:33
kikitowhats going on02:33
brennerBelutz: yep, wow...200 bugs02:33
thoreauputicBelutz: heh - another stick for Mac zealots to beat us with ;)02:33
kikitoanybody here good with wireless connections?02:33
snippyI've got a problem with captive.. <.<02:33
ompaulthoreauputic, no ours are fixed :-)02:34
jaqkarzealots - arent those from starcraft?02:34
kikitoI have quite a problem with my wireless adapter02:34
snippyPreparing LUFS kernel module... Run /usr/share/lufs/prepmod if problems occur.02:34
snippylufs module not loaded: Try running /usr/share/lufs/prepmod to see more. at /usr/bin/captive-lufsd line 18002:34
Belutzyuppp02:34
BelutzAmaranth's SMEG is also included out of the box :D02:34
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hardw1reanyone here tried compiling the latest aMSN cvs?02:35
kikitodoes anybody has a wireless connection?02:35
kemikkikito:  tried ndiswrapper?02:35
thoreauputicsnippy: so of course you tried running /usr/share/lufs/prepmod as the message said.. and .. ?02:35
kikitoyea02:35
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kikitowell I got the connection working up to the point of encription02:36
kikitoas soon as I try to put encryption on the wireless connection everything goes bersek02:36
snippythoreauputic  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/142002:37
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kikitoso right now my setting is with essid "default" and broadcast02:37
thoreauputicsnippy:  sudo apt-get install build-essential02:38
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thoreauputicsnippy: have you installed linux-headers-$(uname -r)  ?02:38
snippythoreauputic  I did apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:38
thoreauputicsnippy: OK well it's complaining you don't have a compiler, so install build-essential02:39
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snippythoreauputic  I did, hold on02:39
thoreauputicsnippy: I think not02:39
thoreauputicsnippy: -->  /bin/sh: gcc: command not found02:40
kikitokemik: do you have usb wireless connection?02:40
thoreauputicso, you didn't install build-essential02:40
Gabrielhello, after kernel update on my hoary PPC, I get kernel panic on reboot and I can't boot the old kernel either as it says there is no such file or directory... what should I do?02:40
thoreauputicsnippy: ^^02:40
kemikkikito:  nope02:40
kikitooh02:41
snippythoreauputic   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/142102:41
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kikitokemik: do you know where I can get help for it?02:41
kemikkikito:  google/wiki/forums02:42
phwHi folks. is there anyone who got a ati x700 (mobile) running with ubuntu?02:42
kemikkikito:  i usually find alot of good stuff on google02:42
Fanskapethmm usb02:42
Fanskapetatleast my inbuilt wlan card works correctly02:42
kikitokemik: yea I have been googling a lot since I got ubuntu02:42
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kikitoI got a d-link usb adapter02:43
thoreauputicsnippy: "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build" do not appear to be valid" <---  you have a mismatch I think02:43
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kikitoMy proble is that I cant put encryption on it02:43
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snippythoreauputic02:43
snippythoreauputic how can I fix? :(02:44
kikitoat least I can connect to the web.  lets just say that Im happy to be here02:44
brennerGabriel: search the forum for topics while you wait02:44
thoreauputicsnippy: it may be looking for "kernel heaaders" - I'm not sure. Are you sure you installed the right headers ?02:44
thoreauputicsnippy: Ubuntu calls them "linux headers" - maybe the script is confused?02:45
snippythoreauputic yes, I'm sure,  I read on a forum about making a link to usr/src/linux  but I dont know how02:45
kikitodoes anybody has experience with wireless connections?02:45
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kikitoany help would be appreciated02:46
thoreauputicsnippy: hmm - well I've never messed with captive so I don't know - maybe search the ubuntu forums to see if anyone has done it and has an answer?02:46
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snippythoreauputic, do you know how to make a link to /usr/src/linux ?02:47
snippyI'm confused02:47
phwkikito: fetch ndis-wrapper drivers02:47
sJaMln -s source dest02:47
HappyFoolkikito: see this?02:47
phwthen fetch the inf file on your windws partition and initialize it02:47
sJaMsnippy02:47
HappyFool!wep02:47
ubotuwep is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.003150731502:47
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HappyFoolsnippy: do you have a /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build ? and where does it link to?02:48
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kikitoyes I did that and I managed to get connection02:48
thoreauputicsnippy: you would do something like   sudo ln -s /what/you/have  /where/you/want/link02:48
thoreauputicsnippy: if that makes sense02:48
snippysnippy@isisIII:~$ /usr/share/lufs/prepmod02:48
snippy+ /sbin/modprobe lufs 2>/dev/null02:48
snippyPreparing LUFS kernel module... Run /usr/share/lufs/prepmod if problems occur.02:48
snippyRunning kernel version: 2.6.10-5-k7 (base version 2.6.10)02:48
snippyDestination module directory: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/fs/lufs02:48
snippyUsing kernel sources: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build02:48
snippyrewrite "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build/include/linux/modversions.h": Permission denied at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 8702:49
kikitobut I had to set my router to essid "default" and no encryption02:49
snippy        main::_writefile('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build/include/linux/modversions.h', '#include <linux/version.h>\x{9}/* lufs */\x{a}#include <linux/version...') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 24602:49
HappyFoolnooooo02:49
snippy        main::build_make('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build', '2.6.10-5-k7', '/var/lib/lufs/lufs.ko') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 28902:49
snippy        main::build('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build', '2.6.10-5-k7', '/var/lib/lufs/lufs.ko') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 15602:49
deFryskfoood :s02:49
thoreauputic!lart snippy02:49
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roham_how do I install a autopackage? the file is like xxxxxxxxx.package ?02:49
deFrysk+l02:49
thoreauputic!paste02:49
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:49
snippy<_<02:49
thoreauputicsnippy: NEVER do that again please02:49
deFryskroham_, better to use a .dob from a ubuntu-repo02:49
kikitofor some reason encryption does not work02:49
deFrysk.deb02:49
snippyyea ok, sorry02:49
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kikitondiswrapper finds the device02:50
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roham_deFrysk ... its only a autopackage02:50
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topyliroham_: are you sure there's no .deb package? what are you trying to install?02:50
deFryskroham_, then try tio find help at #autopackage or something02:50
hardw1reChecking for required C library versions ... failed02:51
roham_topyli: yes, webcam support for gaim02:51
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snippythoreauputic did you read the error message?02:51
HappyFoolkikito: have you read the wep link ubotu pasted earlier?02:51
hardw1reYou need at least the following symbols in glibc: GLIBC_2.0.02:51
hardw1re^^ anyone understand or know how to fix this?02:52
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HappyFoolhardw1re: what are you trying to compile?02:52
hardw1reGaim-w02:52
snippyHappyFool, how can I check this? directory exists but I dont see where it links to02:52
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thoreauputicsnippy: run it with sudo prepended02:52
HappyFoolsnippy: ls /lib/modules/..../build02:52
piotr_hi02:52
HappyFoolhardw1re: have you installed the build-essential package?02:53
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piotr_Hi people this is my 1rst time in irc ;-)02:53
hardw1rei beleive i did02:53
snippycan I paste those 2 lines here?02:53
HappyFoolwelcome piotr_02:53
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DarkRaikaI have a friend thats after a wireless driver02:54
DarkRaikaa02:54
HappyFoolsnippy: sure02:54
DarkRaikalinksys wmp54g02:54
snippyarch    drivers  include  ipc     lib       mm              net      security  usr02:54
snippycrypto  fs       init     kernel  Makefile  Module.symvers  scripts  sound02:54
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DarkRaikaits not working for Ubuntu02:54
hardw1reThe following packages have been kept back:02:54
hardw1re  arts libarts1 libarts1-dev libartsc0 libartsc0-dev02:54
HappyFoolsnippy: ok, so the link is there, and is probably ok; have you tried the sudo that thoreauputic suggested?02:54
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CyberMaddo you know any better Yahoo! Messenger client than kopete, because in Kopete i don't which person that "on SMS" or not -_-02:54
piotr_I have ubuntu to its a great Os  In poland wher I live linux is very popular Os ;)02:55
snippyHappyFool, sudo what? sudo the command for captive ?02:55
hardw1reanother european :)02:55
HappyFoolsnippy: yip02:55
thoreauputicsnippy: rerun the script, yes, with sudo02:55
snippyHappyFool, yes, without it wouldnt work02:55
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hardw1reHappyFool: i did the build-essential yesterday, but i just did an apt-get upgrade on it, and got told those packages i pasted above ^^ were held back...02:56
thoreauputicsnippy: your pastebin pastes don't show a sudo02:56
hardw1rei have to pop out, i should be back in a bout 10 minutes02:56
HappyFoolhardw1re: hmm, not sure. that glibc_2.0 error is a bit weird02:57
hardw1recould it be my kernel?02:57
hardw1re(Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64] 02:57
HappyFooli doubt it02:57
thoreauputicsnippy: ah, sorry, you were root for those02:57
snippyHappyFool, thoreauputic   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/142302:57
Gabrielbrenner, i didn't find anything so i just created the post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5847302:58
topyliCyberMad: that question should be taken outside and shot. ;-) what do you mean?02:58
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thoreauputicsnippy: hmm - for some reason it doesn't like your kernel headers02:59
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snippy:(03:00
thoreauputicsnippy: ah --> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-k7   <--03:00
thoreauputicsnippy: does that exist?03:00
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LinuxJonesSorry for the off-topic but does anybody know of an Adobe IRC channel ?03:00
snippythoreauputic no03:00
brennerLinuxJones: #adobe maybe?03:01
HappyFoolthoreauputic: i thought the build symlink in /lib/*/modules was the 'correct' set of kernel headers to use?03:01
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LinuxJonesbrenner, nope but thanks :)03:01
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dvhmm03:02
LinuxJonesbrenner, google doesn't even list one :(03:02
dvmanually setting the "Resolution" option doesnt work03:02
thoreauputicHappyFool: it seems to be looking for /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-k7 ?03:02
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dvnow the mouse has a decent speed in gdm03:02
snippythoreauputic, putting a link may help ?03:02
brennerLinuxDolt: doubt people would bother debugging adobe reader problems :)03:02
dvbut when I start gnome, it becomes slow again03:02
brennerin an IRC channel that is :)03:02
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HappyFoolyeah, but see the order of search ( modules/*/build comes first)03:02
dvand the mouse settings only work for the touchpad, not for the mouse03:02
dvany ideas?03:03
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snippymaybe lufs is not working right?03:03
thoreauputicHappyFool: hrm - OK I'm out of my depth at this point03:03
snippyI heard its dead03:03
Angrodi got this problem with KDE, if i use my pc for more then say 8 hourse. it start working like hell, and everything starts going all slow. but when i use Gnome, it works fine. any know whats wrong? or how i can fix it? i like the look in KDE much more then Gnome, so i would like to use KDE :x03:03
chicken-manwhen i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help03:03
brennerdv: sys > prefs > mouse ?03:03
HappyFoolalso "kill_proc_info" is undefined -- seems a bit weird03:03
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dvI already said that this doesnt work03:04
dvsys > prefs > mouse only affects the touchpad03:04
dvthe mouse is slow as hell03:04
blkcan someone help me with the problem described on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53120 - i got the same thing here!03:04
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brennerAngrod: run a system monitor when it seems to be "working" heavily and see what's using your CPU03:04
LinuxJonesbrenner, I just have a few general questions to ask regarding some of their products. Maybe it will be faster to just give them a call :)03:04
Angrodbrenner: yeah, i tried that... but the system monitor does not work :P03:05
HappyFoolsnippy: did you install this from ubuntu, or somewhere else?03:05
brennerLinuxJones: they have tech support?  sure, why not.03:05
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chicken-manwhen i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help03:05
topyliseems like ubuntu systems are unbootable today03:05
loekidoes anybody can tell me how I let my computer connected with mldonkey03:05
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snippyI used a german guide, its not in the repos, had to alien a rpm..03:05
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Angrodbrenner: yeah, that works03:06
HappyFoolsnippy: ah. there is a lufs-source package -- i'd use that instead03:06
HappyFoolsnippy: the lufs-source package is in the universe repository03:06
snippyHappyFool, I tried03:06
HappyFoolsnippy: and?03:06
brennerAngrod: you can use that then when it's under stress03:06
snippyHappyFool, same error03:06
snippyI'm using it atm03:07
funkyHatwell apt-get update finally finished while i was away: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/142503:07
HappyFoolsnippy: i thought you said you were using an alien'ed rpm?03:07
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dvbrenner, are there any other ways of configuring the mouse?03:07
funkyHati don't know why i get so many errors:(03:07
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chicken-manwhen i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help03:07
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munjahi all03:07
funkyHathi03:08
HappyFoolsnippy: i'm downloading it now; i'll see if i can figure it works here03:08
munjaI am pretty new with linux03:08
HappyFoolerr03:08
HappyFoolthat is, i'll see if i can get it to work here03:08
munjaespecially ubuntu03:08
snippyHappyFool yes for captive, I tried to run it -> error, then I used the lufs in the repos, same error03:08
munjabut I have a question03:08
brennerdv: i'm not certain, but fiddling with xorg.conf might be something...have you searched the forums for mouse topics?03:08
Angrodbrenner: oki :) thanks03:08
munjaif anyone is willing to help03:08
dvbrenner, the xorg.conf settings are overridden03:09
chicken-manhelp me !!03:09
dvby i-dont-know-what03:09
brennermunja: ask away03:09
dvI set the "Resolution" option03:09
dvwhich works well in gdm, the mouse is fast enough there. but once I am in gnome, its slow again.03:09
chicken-manhelp me !!03:09
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funkyHatp03:09
brennerchicken-man: if someone knows, they'll answer...repeating yourself only bugs people03:09
thoreauputicfunkyHat: looks like http://public.planetmirror.com is terminally ill - try another mirror03:10
munjais there any way to install Linksys WRT54G PCMCIA wireless card?03:10
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snippyHappyFool, I found a guy on a forum with the same problem, he made a new kernel because kill_proc_info is not exporting anymore in the new kernel..03:10
HappyFoolsnippy: ah03:10
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funkyHatthoreauputic, is there a list of mirrors anywhere?03:10
iiiearsGood Morning! :)03:10
chicken-mani need help now ! i need to install grub03:11
thoreauputicfunkyHat: hang on03:11
chicken-mani don't want to have to boot with the live cd every time03:11
brennerevening iiiears :)03:11
iiiearsHi thoreauputic!03:11
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filip_how can i play my wmv movies?03:12
thoreauputicfunkyHat: looks like hoary-extras is the culprit - try deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted03:12
funkyHatthanks :)03:12
iiiearsHi brenner03:12
chicken-manhow do i install grub on /dev/hda ?03:12
thoreauputiciiiears: hi again :)03:12
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HappyFoolsnippy: installing this had better not eat my data, as the README claims ;)03:13
guzuchicken-man, try: grub-install /dev/hda --recheck --no-floppy03:13
iiiearsHaving trouble with my irc client being overflowed. - would like to find a client that won't accept private messages.03:13
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snippyHappyFool :x03:14
liableumode +E03:14
liablestops all but registered03:14
iiiearsspent the morning reading about snort inline and packet queues - just seems too drastic for now03:14
owtputfilip_: apt-get install w32codecs03:14
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funkyHatthe updates seemed to authenticate ok once i ran apt-get update too :)03:14
filip_owtput: okey thanx for the fast help :)03:14
HappyFoolsnippy: hmm. i think you may be right about needing a different kernel03:14
brennerchicken-man: is this after a windows install?03:15
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martin-nee some help: I installed a debian package (openmsx). When installing i got some reports about a different libc6 version. I chose to ignore that error and the program works fine. However, when i want to use synaptic package manager he complains about broken packages and with every action wants to remove that packages. Can i somehow let synaptic ignore broken packages?03:15
owtputiiiears: which client were u using, btw?03:15
HappyFoolsnippy: i get this in dmesg when i 'modprobe lufs' : lufs: Unknown symbol kill_proc_info03:15
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iiiearsX-chat03:15
chicken-manyes03:15
owtputmartin-: you shouldn't, and i don't believe it's possible either03:16
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snippyHappyFool, yeah.. the new kernel does not work with that03:16
snippymeh03:16
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brenneriiiears: can't you use the ignore list and filter *@* with private enabled?03:16
HappyFoolsnippy: i don't know what kernel you need though, sorry - see maybe http://lufs.sourceforge.net (eek - last msg 30/10/2003)03:16
iiiearsowtput - any suggestions?03:16
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HappyFoolsnippy: what do you actually want to do with this? write to ntfs?03:16
chicken-mani get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.'03:16
brenneriiiears: can you try and msg me?  i'll test it now03:16
LinuxDolti was called?03:16
iiiearsbrenner nice tip03:16
snippyHappyFool, lufs is dead..  yes write to ntfs, captive uses the windows drivers so no risks etc..03:16
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owtputmartin-: what's preventing you from using fixing-broken-packages in synaptic?03:17
Brenton_I'm having issues getting a network connection on my ubuntu 5.04 box.  It's found the nic, but I can't seem to get DHCP to work, I've tested the cord on another box and it's working fine03:17
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liableyou cant boot from that though..03:17
topylimartin-: better get the debian source package and build it on ubuntu03:17
liabledoh03:17
letschattmy window manager doesn't load. does anyone mind helping me? i have no window manager utilities available :(03:17
snippyCaptive was written to interface with the Linux kernel via LUFS. Unfortunately, this project is no longer being maintained by its author. Mounting of NTFS devices usually works, but is no longer supported by the author of Captive. Always unmount the device by umount(8) command before shutting down your GNU/Linux system.03:17
snippyA port of Captive to the newer FUSE interface has not yet been implemented. There is an experimental LUFS-FUSE bridge called lufis that can be used in the meanwhile. Also, the captive-cmdline(1) interface will get around any kernel compatibility problems.03:17
LinuxDoltoh...  someone tab-completed for a different Linux name.03:17
filip_owtpu: i cant run apt-get install w32codecs i get error and i dont find it in synaptic03:17
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brennerchicken-man: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:17
chicken-mani've read that lol03:18
brennerchicken-man: looks like you need to mount the ubuntu filesystem first03:18
chicken-mani have03:18
brenner*partition03:18
chicken-mani am in it03:18
letschatthi everyone. i get gnome to load but it doesn't provide any of the WM facilities03:18
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brenneriiiears: did you try and msg me?03:18
chicken-mani'll try remounting i might have missed a bit03:18
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playbackhi, I have just installed ubuntu and have no idea what I am talking about03:19
brennerletschatt: i've heard of it....maybe try reconfiguring the xorg package?03:20
letschattis there anyone here who doesn't mind helping me? i've got a strange situation here guys03:20
playbackI have a nice virgin raid array and am trying to get it to work... please help03:20
chicken-manhow do i unmount a drive ?03:20
brennerfilip_: need to add hoary-extras to your repos03:20
anthonyIs there any way of speeding up loading of web pages with ubunte 5.04?03:20
funkyHatchicken-man, umount03:20
kemikchicken-man:  umount03:20
filip_brenner: okey03:21
kemikit echoes in here03:21
martin-topyli, how dies that building work?03:21
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csjhi,all03:21
brenneranthony: using firefox?03:21
letschattbrenner i have very limited screen space because none of my WM functions like maximize or minimize work03:21
guzuhi csj03:21
letschatti removed metacity from gnome. could that have caused a problem03:21
dsasletschatt: yes03:22
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letschattno shidt? really?03:22
brennerletschatt: yep...it's gnome's engine iirc03:22
topylimartin-: enable unstable deb-src line in sources.list. then apt-get update, apt-get build-depends foo, apt-get -b source foo (where foo is the package)03:22
letschattalright i am gonna put it back in03:22
dsasletschatt: that's the thing that controls maximise etc03:22
martin-owtput: the right package versions are missing according to dpkg:03:22
anthonyyes fire fox03:22
brenneranthony: common problem....there are a few tweaks out there..check the forum03:22
robertjis there an rss feed of backports updates anywhere?03:22
martin-openmsx-catapult depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:03:23
martin-  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14.03:23
ompaulbe kind to yourself remove windows and learn the way of Freedom, not some world where vendor gratuitous changes lie ahead leaving needing their next version to allow you escape from the jail they created for you ...03:23
anthonythanks brenner03:23
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iiiearsbrenner adding ignore "*@*"  seems to work  Thank You  -   spent 2 hours reading about packet mangling. roflmao03:23
playbackcan someone help me with my hard drive problem?03:23
garyjrhi im having a sound problem in ubuntu the newest one its not recognizing my sound card03:24
brenneriiiears: glad to hear......i actually thought of that myself \0/03:24
brenneriiiears: although a little bloated, xchat is pretty nice i'd say03:24
filip_how can i get hoary-extras ?03:25
brenner!repos03:25
ubotumethinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:25
iiiearsX-chat is very nice. - configurable and easy on the eyes03:25
HappyFool!hoary-extras03:25
ubotuhoary-extras is, like, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted03:25
RootX|ArpheticOnly thing i miss in Xchat is support for mIRC scripts03:25
RootX|Arphetic;)03:25
iiiearsperl?03:26
brenneri thought mirc is evil :)03:26
funkyHatum... ok this is worrying: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/142603:26
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RootX|Arpheticiiiears mIRC has nice triggers03:26
RootX|Arphetic lol [ LOL ]  = Laughing Out Loud03:26
RootX|Arphetictry !whatis lol and stuff like that03:27
RootX|Arphetic!whatis rootxen03:27
ubotuI don't know, RootX|Arphetic03:27
RootX|Arpheticrofl03:27
funkyHatdoes anyone else get that? (pastebin above)03:27
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RootX|Arpheticerr?03:27
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HappyFoolfunkyHat: try again? it's working ok for me03:28
brennerplayback: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto03:28
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erbhi03:28
funkyHatthis has been happening for 3 weeks or so ;)03:28
RootX|ArpheticThis HTTP server has broken range support03:28
HappyFoolfunkyHat: hmm03:28
filip_should i add this deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to my /etc/apt/sources.list to get hoary-extras ?03:28
RootX|ArpheticI think u should install some other things first?03:29
HappyFoolfunkyHat: not maybe a proxy problem?03:29
funkyHatfilip_, yes03:29
chicken-manWooT i think i done it :-P03:29
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filip_funkyHat: okey thanx03:29
funkyHatHappyFool, if it is, then it's my ISP's invisible proxy, and there's not a lot i can do about it :(03:29
RootX|Arpheticchicken-man what?03:29
playbackthanx brenner but I haqve nice shiny new virgin barracudas03:29
ompaul!network03:29
brennerchicken-man: well done...what was the fix?03:29
ubotuI don't know, ompaul03:29
ompaul!networks03:29
ubotuI heard networks is Menu item System - Administration - Networking and or it could be sudo pppoeconf03:29
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martin-topyli: which repository do i need? I have that mirrormax repository03:30
chicken-mani done it manually using /sbin/grub03:30
RootX|Arpheticthey should fix the triggers here03:30
brennerplayback: ok.  i just asked ubotu for a raid topic03:30
RootX|Arpheticmake it !network* instead of !networks03:30
brennerplayback: have no idea about them myself03:30
topylimartin-: for unstable sources?03:30
HappyFoolfunkyHat: hmm. maybe mv some files in /var/cache/apt somewhere else, and retry (this is a wild guess ;)03:30
martin-topyli: yes03:30
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funkyHatHappyFool, could i try cleaning the cache?03:31
playbackyeah, I read that one. how about how to format another drive? not raid03:31
topylimartin-: i have deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free03:31
HappyFoolfunkyHat: 'cleaning' as in?03:31
topylimartin-: you may want another server than fi.debian.org03:31
martin-topyli: why?03:32
HappyFoolfunkyHat: as in 'apt-get clean' ?03:32
topylimartin-: might get better download rates from a server near you03:32
kemikusing debian archives is a bit risky03:32
kemikso you know03:32
funkyHatyeah03:32
HappyFoolfunkyHat: go for it. look in /var/cache/apt afterwards, see if there's a pkgcache.bin file there03:32
topylikemik: sources should be safe as long as you build your binaries on ubuntu03:33
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martin-topyli: ah ok, and which "unstable" repos wiht openmsx is there for ubuntu?03:33
kemikah. just getting sources03:33
funkyHatHappyFool, yeah there is03:33
topylimartin-: they are just sources, they're not for ubuntu at all03:33
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HappyFoolfunkyHat: try mv them to say <filename>.bak , and apt-get update again?03:34
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funkyHatok03:34
topylimartin-: openmsx seems to only be in debian stable, there's no unstable package03:35
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funkyHattried it, still get the same error03:35
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topylimartin-: it's in breezy too03:35
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crevettehello03:36
kemikif its just sources, why not download from the web ?03:36
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topylikemik: debian sources are easy to build using apt03:37
topylikemik: you end up with a nice debian package03:37
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shinuis there any ways to add a resolution to xfce? i only have 1024x76803:37
HappyFoolfunkyHat: hmm. I just tried to do partial download using wget on security.ubuntu.com, it worked fine03:38
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brenner!tell shinu about fixres03:38
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HappyFoolfunkyHat: "Content-Range: bytes 100-278/279"03:38
shinubrenner: thanks03:38
ompaulkemik, takes some of the work out of it, it is the version that is installed on your machine, so you are not having to look after dependancies - it is the whole idea behind running a distro, you don't have to look after 1million things just a few well targeted ones03:38
maverickfolks, wats the default pwd for root ?03:38
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iiiears!root03:38
uboturoot is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:38
ompaulmaverick, there is none see the note from ubotu03:39
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ompaulmaverick, if you try to do something it is your password it wants to work with sudo03:39
iiiearsMac style super user policy03:39
ompaulmaverick, biggest advantage, all actions are logged03:39
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no_dammagEhi, can someone help me to configure automount please? somehow it won't work :/03:41
brennermore info needed03:41
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no_dammagEi apt-get install autofs, so I have it now03:42
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borfasthi everyone03:42
HappyFool funkyHat: maybe you could use wget with --cache=off to get whatever file is not working, and (maybe) flush the transparent cache, if there is one03:42
no_dammagEi modified the /etc/auto.master script and added: /media/autofs /etc/auto.autofs --timeout=503:42
no_dammagEin the auto.autofs script I have cdrom   -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/cdrom03:42
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no_dammagEthe paths exist, but /etc/init.d/autofs start doesn't do anything, the cdrom won't be automounted :/03:43
funkyHatHappyFool, i don't seem to have any problem with wget03:43
borfastguys, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu (I'll get to that next) but I thought I'd ask, since I've seen the same thing in other IRC channels: what's with the "paste" pages, what are they for...?03:43
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chicken-mantime to see if my system boots :P wish me luck03:44
HappyFoolfunkyHat: hmm. ok, just an idea03:44
no_dammagEhere is the status of autofs: /usr/sbin/automount --timeout=5 /media/autofs program /etc/auto.autofs03:44
maverickthx all03:44
brennerborfast: pastebin to avoid flodding the channel with lots of text03:44
iiiearsbet you a "buck" everything is fine chicken man03:44
brenner*flooding03:44
chicken-manlol03:44
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EasterSunshineubotu tell borfast about pastebin03:45
borfastbrenner: but why paste it there and not here, if I want you guys to see what I'm writing? I don't get it... :|03:45
borfastwow, that's a cool bot :)03:45
thoreauputicborfast: you give us the URL03:45
borfastthanks, EasterSunshine :)03:45
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borfastgood idea03:46
EasterSunshineborfast: it obnoxiously takes up room, and wastes everyones time and bandwidth, especially the servers03:46
iiiearsubotu you are a genious03:46
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, iiiears03:46
funkyHatborfast, because the channel moves fast enough as it is, and flooding pisses people off03:46
borfastyeah, I get it, now :)03:46
funkyHat:)03:46
EasterSunshineborfast: there are 488 nicks that will receive five or more obnoxous lines on the screen when only about three or so have to03:46
kemikand if everyone were to paste, there would be chaos03:46
jblucan someone tell me what I need to use to convert .aif files to wav?  What app?03:47
EasterSunshinenot to mention that the server will drop you after five lines03:47
thoreauputickemik: there isn't already chaos?03:47
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funkyHathehe03:47
iiiearsEaster. - beginning to see it the way server ops see things03:47
kemikthoreauputic:  well, even more so ;)03:47
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iiiearsmuch better to          ubotu "tell" a nick03:47
thoreauputiciiiears: except that people never check their /msg03:48
martin-topyli: what's "breezy"?03:48
iiiearslol - (shrug) - ya know we just can't win. - grin03:48
EasterSunshinemartin-: the upcoming new release of ubuntu/kubunut03:48
topylimartin-: unstable ubuntu, the next release03:49
crevetteI try to install the nvidia modules for Video card, but I've a dependency pb regarding xlibmesa-glu libglu or libglu103:49
kemikand someppl dont even read what's going on in the channel.. even tho they want help :/03:49
crevettethis is due to the mesa migration in breezy ?03:49
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crevetteThere is a way to resov that, or do IO have to wait for the migration ?03:51
funkyHataccording to this page: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Nvidia_.2B_Xorg i need to add some lines to xorg.conf to get GLX and composite working together, it says the second 'driver' section, but i've only got one :S03:51
FreggyDoes someone know where to file bugs about f-spot in Ubuntu Breezy? There does not seem to be a component f-spot in bugzilla.03:51
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jpfariashey03:51
crevetteFreduardo_> f-spot in not supported03:51
funkyHatcan anyone tell me where i should put it?03:51
crevetteie not in main03:51
jpfariasanyone got problems with flash applets on firefox?03:52
crevettefunkyHat> gnome bugzilla03:52
crevettebugzilla.gnome.org03:52
snippyok I'm out of here03:52
crevetteIt's the better for all gnome component03:52
jpfariasIt appears some fonts are missing03:52
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funkyHatcrevette, i'm not reporting a bug, i'm asking where to add a line to my xorg.conf03:52
snippythanks thoreauputic and HappyFool for your help!! :)) *hugs* byebye03:52
d I'm currently running Kubuntu Hoary w/ KDE 3.4.2. If I upgrade the kernel, will a 'Suspend to disk' option appear under the KDE shutdown menu? What kernel version do I need?03:52
crevettefunkyHat> report bugs in ubuntu.org only if it is a building issue03:52
HappyFoolsnippy: ok, sorry it didn't work out03:53
thoreauputicsnippy: bye :)03:53
crevettehoups03:53
funkyHatcrevette, it's not a bug!03:53
crevetteFreggy> I mean03:53
borfastcrap... my first try at the pastebin went wrong... the darn thing is not breaking lines and they went way past the browser width :\03:53
snippyHappyFool, it's ok;)03:53
snippybyee03:53
Freggyhm, ok, thanks, I'll check with latest upstream sources and file a bug on gnome bugzilla...03:53
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martin-topyli: So not an repos i can add?03:53
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FortMa1How do I configure my sound card in Ubuntu? I'm acustomed to using alsaconf, but that does not appear to installed and apt-get reports It's not available. Synaptic reports alsaconf conflicts w/other packages.03:54
dwhat version # did suspend to disk enter the kernel?03:54
topylimartin-: sure. i'd add the breezy deb-src repository and build the binary with apt03:54
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schlomoHi03:54
schlomois it possible to use Ubuntu CD to boot directly to the disk ?03:55
jpfariascan someone help me with missing fonts in flash applets?03:55
thoreauputic!sound03:55
ubotuI guess sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/03:55
topylimartin-: since you build the package on your system, there should be no dependency conflicts and synaptic will stop complaining about broken packages03:55
iiiearsGood Morning schlomo03:56
iiiearsboot from the live cd and have access to the hard drives?03:56
dDo I need to upgrade to breezy of can I just update the kernel to get suspend to disk?03:56
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schlomonope03:56
borfastok, so now I post the URL here and wait for someone to see it and reply?03:56
schlomoproblem to boot to serial ATA disk03:57
borfasthttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/143303:57
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brenner*chuckle*03:57
iiiearsnot familiar with them -sorry03:58
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thoreauputicborfast: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:58
brennerborfast: general idea is to paste console output, errors and such.....and although you've done this, you've pasted a description really,....first time i've seen that :)03:59
borfastthoreauputic: I already did that before starting to install vmware-tools03:59
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sfaciushi at all03:59
Bjorn1can somebody help me a sec03:59
Bjorn1i'm in the text mode03:59
Bjorn1but how do i start x again ?03:59
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sfaciushow i can modify mouse themes in ubuntu?04:00
dsastype startx04:00
borfastbrenner: sorry, first time using pastebin, I wasn't sure what I should type :\04:00
iiiears"tartx"04:00
Bjorn1oh lol dsas04:00
Bjorn1i used start x04:00
Bjorn1-_-04:00
Bjorn1thanks anyway :D04:00
thoreauputicborfast: funny, the $(uname -r) should include the -38604:00
brennerborfast: no, i wasn't grumbling...just the first time i've seen that....might actually be a good idea :)04:00
sfaciushow i can modify mouse themes in ubunt?04:00
thoreauputicborfast: what you pasted is fine04:00
thoreauputic;)04:01
deFrysksfacius, gcursor04:01
Bjorn1brb going to connect trough my ubuntu pc04:01
sfaciusthx04:01
sfacius:D04:01
dsasyou should use `uname -r` shouldn't ou?04:01
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dsasi.e. include the backticks04:01
thoreauputicdsas: same thing04:01
dsasahh ok04:01
borfastthoreauputic: I have both the kernel headers and even the kernel source (which shouldn't be necessary) in /usr/src but the darn thing says the kernel versions (the running kernel and the kernel-headers) don't match. I actually used Synaptic and not the command line apt-get04:01
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thoreauputic$(uname -r) does the same as `uname -r`04:01
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Bjorn1Back04:01
Bjorn1=] 04:02
dsasthoreauputic: didn't know that, noted.04:02
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thoreauputicborfast: try the command I gave - maybe your kernel has been updated?04:02
Bjorn1I've another problem whenever i enable my nvidia 7800 gtx card my screen turns black :(04:02
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Bjorn1And i need to disable the nvidia thing04:02
Bjorn1=/04:02
thoreauputicdsas: $(uname -r) is arguably more readable :)04:03
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schlomoI have to disable RAID for Ide and SATA04:03
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borfastthoreauputic: it was but it was updated right before trying to install vmware-tools. this is a completely fresh instalation of ubuntu, I just did an "apt-get update; apt-get" upgrade after installing04:03
martin-topyli: sounds good, what's the address of the repos?04:04
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borfastthoreauputic: oh, and I uncommented the Universe repository in sources.list (not sure if it influences the kernel packages)04:04
iiiears!repos04:04
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:04
thoreauputicborfast: I was just thinking you might have selected the wrong package in synaptic - the literal command would make sure of it04:04
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borfastthoreauputic: yeah, I'm going to try the shell command04:05
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bradyhello04:05
thoreauputicborfast: BTW I know nothing about vmware ;)04:05
topylimartin-: you can copy the "breezy sources" lines from my sources.list http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list04:05
spolai wanna buy a webcam, but im specifically looking for one that will work with ubuntu: is there a list of verified to work webcams online?04:06
borfastthoreauputic: lol. no problem, this has nothing to do with VMware itself, I think. it's just about the naming of the kernel and kernel-headers versions04:06
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Bjorn1anyone :)?04:06
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martin-topyli: thx04:06
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AlexHey everyone.04:07
bradyI have a question about Ubuntu...This is also my first experience with linux.  It seems that there is no real video acceleration (i.e. some of the 3d screensavers seem terribly slow for what is being displayed).  Is there something I am missing?04:07
m0biu5hi Alex =)04:07
dsasBjorn1: you did make a backup of your X config file? right?04:07
Bjorn1yes04:07
AlexRight - odd question - my LUG is using Ubuntu for an install day. Anyone got a bunch of really *mouthwatering* shots of Ubuntu's default install?04:07
Bjorn1But where is it located dsas  ?04:07
Bjorn1I just started 2 days ago04:07
Bjorn1:/04:07
dsasBjorn1: if you didn't make a backup manually then one won't have been made.04:08
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brennerspola: your lucky day: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:08
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Bjorn1oh04:08
spolawoow, it IS my lucky day!04:08
Bjorn1dsas, it said backup too blabla04:08
Bjorn1;x04:08
dsasBjorn1: it's probably in /etc/X11/ then04:09
topyliAlex: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=104:09
dsasBjorn1: or in your home directory04:09
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brennerAlex: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Ubuntu504-1.png04:09
AlexHmm04:09
AlexThanks04:09
dsasBjorn1: You're looking for a xorg.conf or similar.04:09
Alextopyli++04:09
Alexbrenner++04:09
Alex:)04:09
brenneractaully, not quite default :)04:09
topyliAlex: for a mouthwatering shot unlike those, see http://siltala.net/comp/Hoary-desktop.jpg :)04:10
AlexThanks.04:10
AlexAnyone know if mako hangs around here?04:10
borfastthoreauputic: I think you hit the nail on the head - I do have a kernel-headers directory in /usr/src but there's no kernel-headers package installed - don't know why, I installed it and the files are there..... :|04:10
brennertopyli: cheater! that's not default!04:10
brenner:D04:10
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dsas#ubuntu-devel04:11
thoreauputicborfast: note that in ubuntu it's "linux-headers-$(uname -r)"04:11
dsaswhoops04:11
AlexThanks, dsas :)04:11
topylibrenner: not by a long shot :)04:11
topylibrenner: i did link to osdir's screenshots as well though04:12
thoreauputicborfast:  dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r) to see where the files install04:12
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brennerubotu: hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport04:13
thoreauputic-----------> coffee brb04:13
ubotubrenner: okay04:13
brennertopyli: lucky break :)04:13
brenneri'll let you off this time04:13
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AlexYeah, we partially forgive you - if anyone does have a screenshot to show off though, gimme a shout in privmsg, and I might bung it on the website.04:14
zapadawill ubuntu work with my usb flash stick?04:14
Alexzapada: Most probably.04:14
zapadawhat about digital cameras>?04:14
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AlexWhich camera?04:15
dsaszapada: depends on the camera04:15
topylizapada: most of them work as simple usb drives04:15
zapadasony something04:15
brennerAlex: there are stacks of gnome desktops out there...which is pretty much *the* DE most ubuntu user's will use04:15
AlexMy digi cam treats it as a USB drive04:15
zapadacool04:15
guzumass storage device04:15
Alexbrenner: Hehe :) I know - this is for new users, so we're aiming to be promoting the default04:15
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zapadais there a good dvd authoring program for linux?04:16
zapadalike sony's vegas/dvd architect04:16
zapadaor i would just be able to wine it?04:16
dsaszapada: my digicam prompts me to copy photos when i plug it in (kodak)04:17
eliphas_I am sure one should exist04:17
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eliphas_try sourceforge04:17
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plbhrm does breezy colony 3 have gtk + cairo?04:18
martin-topyli: I installed the breezy src line in sources.list. I also see the repos in synpacitc but when i search; no openmsx04:18
topylimartin-: synaptic doesn't do source packages. use apt04:18
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topylimartin-: apt-get update; apt-get build-depend foo; apt-get -b source foo04:19
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thoreauputicapt-get build-dep  actually04:20
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topylithoreauputic: oh yeah!04:20
thoreauputic:)04:20
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karljpanyone know why I have dvd audio with mplayer, but not with totem or xine?04:21
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sfaciushi at all04:22
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sfaciusi want to modify theme of mouse but gcursor doesn't recognise index.theme. Why?04:22
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sneezymarbleI'm trying to install "nvidia-glx" through synaptic and before the file even downloads a dialogue pops up asking me to put the Ubunutu Installation CD in the drive.  I do, then press "ok" and nothing happens....any ideas?...04:22
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apellai have a question about the x-server: how do i shut it off?04:23
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topyliapella: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:23
brennersneezymarble: it's using your CD as a repo...bets to disable it and just use net repos04:23
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brenner*best04:23
aima_wah xchat is shit04:23
thoreauputicsfacius: when you change cursors, the change comes into effect nest time you log in (or restart X)04:23
aima_erk wrong channel04:23
Bjorn1aima_,  fu :)04:23
apellatopyli: thx04:23
Bjorn1:x04:23
Bjorn1<304:23
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Bjorn1its better then mirc imo04:24
Bjorn1:D04:24
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aima_Bjorn1, well sure04:24
topyliheh04:24
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sneezymarbleahhh, ok that makes sense.  Thanks.  I'm very new with Ubuntu...and linux :0)04:24
aima_but at leat mirc doesn't crash when i load a script04:24
Bjorn1=] 04:24
brennerBjorn1: but does it have cool triggers? :)04:24
Bjorn1brenner, i only use it for chatting04:24
jdahmhey anyone here have any tips on how to clean the head on my printer?04:24
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Bjorn1nothing else ;D04:24
brennerBjorn1: j/k....this conversation came up half an hour ago04:25
brenner:)04:25
Bjorn1oh04:25
Bjorn1Darn you :(04:25
sneezymarblebrenner:  I'm sorry if this is an inane question...but, how do I do what you have suggested?04:25
brennerjdahm: that's very ubuntu-related :D04:25
AlexHow much diskspace does the Ubuntu default (everything) take?04:25
sfaciusthoreauputic the themes weren't installed04:25
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brennersneezymarble: do you know how to use synaptic/apt-get ?04:25
jdahmbrenner, well I installed ubuntu and suddenly my printer makes sounds when it prints and then I cant clean it because theres no app for that04:25
sneezymarblebrenner:  not really04:26
aima_jdahm, what kind of sounds?04:26
brennerAlex: 1.8gb typical04:26
aima_maybe a family of mice moved in04:26
brennerAlex: 350mb minimal04:26
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jdahmaima_, normals sounds of a dirty head some scratching and I get lines in the test page where there should be color04:26
brennersneezymarble: sys > admin > synaptic04:26
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Alexbrenner: Typical is what we're aiming at. Thanks04:27
sneezymarblebrenner:  I understand if you don't want to explain it.  I believe I saw a tuturial on apt-get in the wiki.04:27
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shinuhey04:27
topylii should clean up04:27
aima_jdahm, is that what happened before you used linux when the head was dirty?04:27
sneezymarbleI'll check there and see if I can figure it out.04:27
shinuanyone know more or less how long would an installation of ubuntu take?04:27
martin-topyli: did apt-get update but these 2 other commands won't work04:27
brennersneezymarble: no, no biggie.....the wiki probably would explain it better anyway :)04:27
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apellasorry to be irritating, but could you tell me again how to shut down the x-server? i accidently turned this thing off:)04:27
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damotorhi04:28
sneezymarblebrenner:  thank you though04:28
brennersneezymarble: but what you're doing is very easy, i can walk you through04:28
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topylimartin-: i made a typo. it's "apt-get build-dep" not build-depend04:28
HappyFoolapella: maybe Ctl-Alt-Backspace ?04:28
jdahmaima_, yeah the printer sucks I always had to clean the head a lot and there was an app for it in windows04:28
brennersneezymarble: open a terminal04:28
sneezymarbleok04:28
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brennersneezymarble: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:28
thoreauputic!start an irc client war04:28
aima_apella, "sudo /etc/init.d/xorg stop" should do it04:28
ubotuirssi is better than konversation !04:28
brennersneezymarble: type that04:28
apellathx04:28
brenneror copy and paste :P04:28
martin-topyli: and what stand "foo" for?04:29
sneezymarbleok04:29
aima_i hope that's what apella meant04:29
brennersneezymarble: did a file open up?04:29
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sneezymarbleyes04:29
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topylimartin-: your package name. openmsx?04:29
aima_jdahm, is it an epson printer?04:29
brennersneezymarble: see the top line.... it should have CD there somewhere04:29
nerpyeah, speaking of sources.list anyone have a list of repositories that actually work?04:29
Brenton_hey all, I'm having issues with my network card in ubuntu04:29
HappyFool!repos04:29
ubotufrom memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:29
sneezymarbleyes it does04:29
nerpseems like the mirrors I have are somewhat bungled04:29
HappyFoolthe second link should be a working sample sources.list04:29
jdahmaima_, yeah04:29
brennersneezymarble: comment it out by putting a # character at the start of the line04:30
topylimartin-: also note that in my sources.list the source lines are commented04:30
sneezymarblegotcha04:30
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martin-topyli: yes, i removed the "#"04:30
aima_jdahm, sounds like it :) there is an epson utility, I only used it once, it came on a magazine cover04:30
brennersneezymarble: you might want to enable universe and multiverse while you're at it04:30
Brenton_I've tested the card on another computer and it's working fine, ubuntu is recognizing the card, but does not get an IP address04:30
aima_jdahm, it may even be in the apt repository04:30
jdahmI checked ut I didnt see anything aima_04:30
aima_it has mostly the same functions as the windows one iirc04:30
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sneezymarblehmm, ok I see some universe stuff and I imagine I need to remove the #04:31
brennersneezymarble: yep, you can do that by removing the # character at the start of these two lines:04:31
brennerdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse04:31
brennerdeb-src ftp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse04:31
martin-topyli: is there a file where i can lokup taht package name?04:31
brennershoops04:31
brenner*whoops04:31
brennersecond one should be: deb-src ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse04:31
aima_jdahm, escputil if it's an epson stylus04:32
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sneezymarblebrenner:  thank you very much04:32
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brenneri'm assuming you don't want to use an australian mirror :)04:32
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brennersneezymarble: no probs, save and close04:32
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brennersneezymarble: then type: sudo apt-get update04:32
topylimartin-: use the web search on http://packages.ubuntu.com04:32
sneezymarbleI'm downloading and installing "nvidia-glx" right now04:32
shin!list04:32
ubotulist is probably you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:32
topylimartin-: remember to use "breezy" for the distribution04:32
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thoreauputicbrenner: actually last I checked the  au mirror pointed at the uk one (go figure)04:33
damotorsome time ago I compiled a wireless driver module that wwasn't included in the ubuntu kernel; may the module I compiled stop working if I update the kernel version?04:33
brennerthoreauputic: really?04:33
brennerthoreauputic: that's rather naughty04:33
aima_jdahm, right going to do some gardening, i hope your printer gets better soon04:34
brennerthoreauputic: or doesn't au stand for what it's meant to?04:34
jdahmaima_, alright thanks04:34
Bjorn1australia or austria04:34
Bjorn1both are au04:34
Bjorn1:o04:34
shinitaliani?04:34
thoreauputic host archive.ubuntu.com04:34
thoreauputicarchive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.13804:34
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HappyFoolbrenner: i think uk is the 'main' repo; if a mirror doesn't exist, that is used a placeholder04:34
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brennerBjorn1: austria : at04:35
Spasmhai smua!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:35
brennerBjorn1: at least i think so04:35
HappyFoolafaik the south africa 'mirror' points to the uk one as well04:35
thoreauputichost au.archive.ubuntu.com  au.archive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.13804:35
brennerthoreauputic: heh....so i assume you don't use them?04:36
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thoreauputicbrenner: I just use the au one since it's the same anyway and works fine ;)04:36
brennerheh, ok then. :)04:36
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brennerwhat about asian mirrors?  they're closer aren't they?04:37
brenneri don't know why i'm asking...i'm on dialup!04:37
brennerdoesn't make much of a diff. :D04:37
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thoreauputicbrenner: same here :)04:38
Mabushi, can anyone help me with Eclipse ( https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1800 ) ?04:38
nerpoddly enough public.planetmirror.com isn't working for me..04:38
nerpbefore it was ftp2.caliu.info04:38
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thoreauputicnerp: someone else had the same issue a while ago04:38
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HappyFool!hoary-extras04:39
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ubotusomebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:39
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nerpthoreauputic: any solutions offered/found?04:39
thoreauputicnerp: use ubotu's URLs above04:39
nerprgr04:39
thoreauputicmirrormax04:39
martin-topyli: Ok the second command worked but the last one gave:04:39
Belutztopyli: how to change the desktop font color from white to black?04:39
chriszanfim trying to install oss drivers and have to do it when logged out of X - when I do this I cant gain su staus to install. anyone know any answers?04:39
martin-dpkg-source: extracting openmsx in openmsx-0.5.204:40
martin-sh: line 0: cd: openmsx-0.5.2: No such file or directory04:40
topyliBelutz: i have no idea :(04:40
thoreauputicchrissturm: sudo -i04:40
Belutztopyli:  :)04:40
nerpthanks04:40
thoreauputicchriszanf: sorry that was for you ^^^04:40
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nerp99% [Waiting for headers] 04:41
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chriszanfso when ive logged out I just do: sudo -i   ?04:41
nerpplanetmirror is usually overloaded04:41
nerpif it loads i'll leave it be for now04:41
chriszanfcool - thanks04:41
martin-topily: Or do i need to put something else for "source"?04:41
thoreauputicchriszanf: sudo -i gives you a root shell04:41
topylimartin-: maybe it's broken. is there in fact such a directory (openmsx-0.5.2)?04:41
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jdahmok I got the utility, but where in /dev/ is my printer (its USB1)04:41
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gfxstylerhey there!!04:42
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topylimartin-: i think the command is ok04:43
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Kudozerohi to everyone... Sex&Longlive04:43
topylimartin-: if the package got extracted, you can do "fakeroot debian/rules" in the openmsx source dir04:44
martin-topyli: It was, my current dir was /cdrom ;))))04:44
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topylimartin-: :)04:44
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nerpbah, closed wrong window04:44
Stiivihi04:44
martin-topyli: Alright, looks like it's compiling04:44
martin-topyli: what do those 3 commands do (trying to learn something)?04:45
nerpyay04:45
nerpwoked finally :D04:45
martin-topyli: and what does "fakeroot" do?04:45
topylimartin-: update updates your package lists, build-dep gets all packages needed to compile the new package, and the last one compiles and builds the binary04:45
Stiivii have migrated from mandrake to ubuntu just yesterday .... finally after solving jfs problem. the distribution looks neat! :)04:45
topylimario: fakeroot just runs the rules file, which contains instructions for building the deb04:46
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topylimartin- not mario, sorry :)04:46
Bjorn1is there an howto04:46
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Bjorn1to compile source files04:46
Bjorn1:o04:46
brennerStiivi: good to hear :)04:46
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martin-topyli: Aha ok, but it doesn't put the files in the right directories? That has to be done manually?04:47
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Stiivibrenner: :)04:47
brennerBjorn1: as in install from source?04:47
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thoreauputic!compile04:47
ubotucompile is, like, tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>04:47
djcbwhere can i find xfontsel? it seems to have vanished in breezy lately...04:47
eliphas_! compiling04:48
Stiivithere was too much strange magic in the Mandrake, i gave up fighting with it04:48
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eliphas_!compiling04:48
guzuhow do i mount a samba share in ubuntu 5.04?04:48
HappyFool!samba04:48
ubotusomebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently04:48
martin-toplyi: Normally a debian package chooses the right directories for you, right?04:49
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thoreauputic!compiling04:49
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thoreauputicah, it's too long for the channel04:49
nerpStiivi: what sort of problems did you have with mandrake?04:49
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djcb!xfontsel04:49
ubotudjcb: Wish i knew04:49
brennerStiivi: was my first distro i used at home so i have fond memories.   i didn't know how to get my net connection up though, so i didn't really run into the RPM issues people apparently have.04:49
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thoreauputic!+compiling04:49
ubotuCompiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really.04:49
guzuso how do i mount a samba share in ubuntu 5.04?04:49
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chriszanftrying to install oss, when I just logged out, it still says that I appear to have a kernel level sound driver installed04:50
Montaghim getting a slow connection after i installed hoary, is there something i can change or is my isp throttling me for dl too much heh04:50
pumbaaFUCK OFF04:50
nerpI've used mandrake since 7.0 up until Le 2005, did ok by me04:50
Stiivinerp: many, but the one that was the final drop was that the network configuration was constantly changing even on small updates, so i had to reconfigure whole network when I moved between places04:50
shinudoes ubuntu support widescreen laptops properly?04:50
nerpbut I was looking for a change04:50
brennerBjorn1: you can use checkinstall to make a nice deb file which you can then install and remove :)04:50
kafeinepumbaa was weird.04:50
nerpso I switched to ubuntu then suse pro 9.3 then debian then mandriva beta 0.2 2006 and back to ubuntu04:51
topylimartin-: yes, it should be clever04:51
brennerkafeine: must be looking for timon04:51
kafeinein a truly weird manner..04:51
nerpStiivi: what do you mean changing?04:51
kafeineshinu, generally yes04:51
shinukafeine: k, thanks, i can already see it :)04:52
martin-topyli: It compiled now, how can i let it do the clever stuff now so everything is put in the right dirs?04:52
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Stiivianyway, there was too slow startup/unsuspend, broken samba (well, i have not tried that one on ubuntu, that would be the next step), very broken latin-2 support in openoffice (strange font replacements in printing/PDF), weird dead-keys handling on slovak keyboard ... etc...04:52
nerpI see04:52
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topylimartin-: you should find a deb package in your current dir. use "dpkg -i foo.deb" to install and pray04:52
Stiivinerp: i have changed, for example, my IP, and other configuration was lost, like wireless settings or DNS04:52
Stiivibut it was not predictable04:52
martin-topyli: there is a .deb file, should i just do dpkg -i that file?04:52
topylimartin-: yes04:53
martin-sorry, you already told me, thx04:53
Stiivihow is it with samba and ubuntu?04:53
Stiivii have installed 'bum', but I can not see samba service there even I have samba packages installed04:53
nerpStiivi: sounds like you allowed DHCP to change your hostname04:53
brennerMontagh: browser only?  or every net app?04:53
topylimartin-: and don't forget to pray: wave a dead chicken on your keyboard while installing :)04:53
Mabushow would I grep for null (U+0) in a file ?04:53
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Stiivinerp: no, i never used dhcp  ... it was configuration scripts problem04:54
nerpoh, interesting04:54
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umberleighhi. i'm having trouble getting my soundcard to work. every time i login KDE tells me it can't find the device and defaults to /dev/null, also KMix defaults back to using my USB camera/mike instead of my nForce2 soundcard04:54
Montaghyeah most things are doing it04:54
brennerubotu: tell umberleigh about sound04:55
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brennerumberleigh: read those while you wait04:55
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nerpubotu: gives brenner a beer04:55
ubotunerp: Are you smoking crack?04:55
nerpnot yet04:55
nerphehe04:55
umberleighbrenner: thanks04:56
topylihah04:56
chriszanftrying to install oss, when I just logged out, it still says that I appear to have a kernel level sound driver installed04:56
nerpubotu: give brenner a beer!04:56
ubotunerp: Do they come in packets of five?04:56
chriszanfhow do I remove the driver?04:56
nerpubotu: no, six04:56
ubotunerp: Do they come in packets of five?04:56
topyliheh04:56
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nerpubotu: beer somes in packets of six!04:56
ubotunerp: I give up, what is it?04:56
martin-topyli: ;)04:57
nerpit'd help if I could spell04:57
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brennerMontagh: well, check your usage limit....othwerwise, probably a setup thing you need to sort out04:57
Stiivihm, another interesting thing about ubuntu (and perhaps other linux distributions) ... friend of mine started reinstalling windows hour before me04:57
Montaghahr ite04:57
nerphmm anyone have any idea as to what this might be:04:58
nerpfaen@levity:/etc$ *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice04:58
nerp*** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice04:58
brennerStiivi: and let me guess, you beat him? :D04:58
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nerpwhen using gedit04:58
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_SWAT_Just read about SHA-1 being easily falsified. Is there any way to 'standard' increase your login (and more) to SHA-512 ?04:58
thoreauputicnerp: it's just a warning - you can usually ignore those04:58
MichaelHi, I have a problem with mi wifi conection. Installed the drivers with ndiswrapper and all is ok. But I don't sent or recieve nothing04:59
Stiivi... when I have finished, mounted my old /home partition and played with my documents in OO.org to see whether it works ... he was finishing network configuration and starting to install other software, such as antivirus :)04:59
chriszanfdoes anyone know or am I wasting my time here?04:59
brennerStiivi: lol...i knew it...04:59
Stiivi:)04:59
thoreauputicchriszanf: or possibly your question needs rephrasing04:59
brennerStiivi: did the docs work in OO? :D04:59
Stiivisure :)04:59
brennerlol05:00
Montaghsudo apt-get install life.deb05:00
brennerStiivi: so why haven't you converted him/her yet? :P05:00
MabusI'm getting tons of "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." when running apt05:00
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Mabusafter using the language chooser thingy05:01
thoreauputicMabus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales05:01
chriszanfok - Im trying to install oss sound drivers. when I run the install it says: "you appear to have the kernel level sound module being loaded automagically by the kerneld daemon" It suggests logging out of X session and trying there. When I do that, it says exactly the same thing. How do I stop the kernel daemon loading the sound module?05:02
Stiivibrenner: games, games and ... well ... games :-/05:02
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brennerStiivi: dualboot05:02
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Mabusthoreauputic: Would I have to restart to get things to re-read the locales ?05:02
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Mabusafter running reconfigure05:02
Stiivibrenner: too complicated (for standard user)05:02
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thoreauputicMabus: don't know - probably logout/login05:03
Mabusright, thanks alot05:03
hardw1reanyone here managed to get Gaim-w to compile on the x86_64 system?05:03
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brennerchriszanf: how are you logging out?05:03
Belutzhow to apt-get install when i don't know exactly the package name?05:04
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chriszanfi was using /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:04
hardw1reapt-cache search <name>05:04
Stiivion the other hand ... allways when I try to convert someone at least to OO if not to a Linux distro, iam confronted with a question: "and why would someone do it for free?"05:04
thoreauputicchriszanf: I don't understand why you are installing oss - ubuntu uses alsa05:04
brennerchriszanf: and then ctrl+alt+backspace? iirc05:04
Stiiviand that is the most difficult question to answer05:04
endgamerI have a question, and believe me I've been all round the houses and tried every possible resource to get this answered - I've been at it for over 4 hours and I'm going spare - I've just installed a new 5.04 Ubuntu, and I can't figure out how to upgrade glibc - the source won't compile and I can't find a package anywhere. Could someone help before I snap? :-)05:05
chriszanfi have m-audio delta 66 and it doesnt seem to work05:05
jbaileyendgamer: Upgrading glibc beyond what's there is usually a mistake.05:05
chriszanfwhen i went to masudio's site, the linux driver they point to is oss05:05
umberleighhow do i manually free the sound card / check to see if anything's using it?05:05
jbaileyendgamer: What problem are you trying to solve?05:05
brennerStiivi: really?  when i tell people stuffs free, they don't really care about where it came from :)05:05
hardw1re# Upgrading glibc is highly dangerous, so we recommend in this situation that you05:05
hardw1re# compile the app you want to install from the sources if possible. Sorry :(05:05
thoreauputicchriszanf: oss is a kernel 2.4 thing - 2.6.* uses alsa05:05
hardw1reso where can i get the glibc source?05:06
endgamerTrying to install software to handle my MP3 player - it needs glibc-2.3.4 at least...05:06
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Stiiviumberleigh: lsof  | grep /dev/mixer05:07
jbaileyErr.05:07
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jbaileyIf you compile your own glibc, you face a VERY high probably of breaking your system completely, just don't do it.05:07
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Stiivibrenner: hm, people, usualy from business, are very skeptical to free stuff as they know that "there is no such thing as free lunch"05:07
jbaileyIf you need the newer glibc, upgrade your whole system to breezy.  You'll be far better off.05:07
endgamerCrapola. And you can't use a package?05:07
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jbaileyAll of the bumps and pain of breezy will be far *less* than if you build your own glibc.05:07
endgamerBreezy? New Ubuntu? I didn't see it on the lists...05:08
Belutzif i want to compile something, do i have to install libxxx-dev packages?05:08
jbaileyIt's not released yet.05:08
thoreauputicStiivi: Free as in Freedom <----05:08
mark__whats the linux-image-2.6.10-5.1686/386 update in the repositorie is it necessary?05:08
endgamerAh...05:08
brennerStiivi: ah, that's probably it....most people i know aren't of the business age.05:08
Stiivithoreauputic: but they think of "free as in free beer" and that is the source of the problem05:08
jbaileyendgamer: It's due out in 6 weeks, though, so it's pretty close.05:08
jbaileyThere are still bumps though.05:08
endgamerNot release as in can't-get-it-at-all or not released as in use-it-at-your-own-risk? <g>05:09
thoreauputicStiivi: yes, I know :/ English has a problem with that05:09
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Stiivithoreauputic: not only english05:09
hardw1reO_o05:09
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Apurvahi there ....05:09
Apurvanewbie in the house05:09
brennerStiivi: he's an aussie....his bias comes out sometimes :)05:10
Stiivi:)05:10
Apurvaanyone around to lend a lil help here ?05:10
thoreauputicStiivi: hence "libre"05:10
Stiivii see05:10
ook_hey... can I install 32bit ubuntu if I  have 64bit AMD processor...? ubuntu as 64 is causing some problems with some software05:10
chriszanfOK - Im playing an mp3 now and have no sound - I have gone to the volume control - selected my sound card delta 66 [alsa]  and still have no sound05:10
thoreauputicbrenner: hmm - I grew up in Switzerland05:10
hardw1reook_ yeah i think you can05:10
eliphas_chrissturm, check if anything else use the sound already05:10
Apurvaanyone ?05:10
Stiiviwell, in slovak some people use translation of free as "freely distributeable"05:10
mjrook_, yes05:10
guzunow, it looks like after the installation of the last linux-image (or sthing like this) my apt-get keeps ending in segmentation fault. anyone any aidea, please?05:11
Stiivibut people do not get it05:11
thoreauputicStiivi: ignore brenner - he's an Aussie ;)05:11
chriszanfhow do I check if something is?05:11
guzuaidea/idea05:11
HappyFoolApurva: ask your question; if someone knows, they'll help05:11
ook_ok, thanks05:11
umberleighlsof | grep /dev/mixer turns up nothing, though lsof | /dev/snd/* says 'File descriptor in bad state' for a few things05:11
brennerthoreauputic: lol05:11
thoreauputic:)05:11
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brenneri was waiting for that05:11
endgamerJbailey? Is it possible to get a beta download? Or is it totally unavailable?05:11
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brennerendgamer: lots of people are running it now...use at your own risk though afaik05:12
Apurvai am looking at installing ubuntu on a flash drive ... live cd kinda install .... i am on a windows box now ... do i need to burn the CD first... boot from CD and then install it on the flash drive or is there a direct way to it ?05:12
guzunobody :(05:12
topyliendgamer: you can upgrade but that's at your own risk05:12
hardw1reanyone know if there is an msn client that can do webcam capabilities?05:12
jbaileyendgamer: Sure, just change your sources to point to breezy instead of hoary.  I still don't recommend doing this.  But it'll be FAR nicer than updating your own glibc.05:12
hardw1reanyone know if there is an msn client that can do webcam capabilities? x86_64 system05:12
endgamerOoookay...well, it's a new installation so I don't mind breaking it, I can always start again from scratch. Thank you SO much guys, you wouldn't believe how much aggravation and pain this has caused me. You are alll the man...05:13
guzuhardw1re, maybe gnomemeeting05:13
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jbaileyOoo, a collective singular.05:13
hardw1rebut does gnomemeeting work over msn? :P05:13
chriszanfha....just inserted a cd and now cd player closes immediately.   how can I checxk if somehting else is using the soundcard?05:14
thoreauputicjbailey:  /join #grammar-geeks  ;-)05:14
Apurvai am looking at installing ubuntu on a flash drive ... live cd kinda install .... i am on a windows box now ... do i need to burn the CD first... boot from CD and then install it on the flash drive or is there a direct way to it ?05:14
jbaileythoreauputic: *lol*05:14
thoreauputic*grin*05:14
guzuhardw1re, i've heard it's the only thing it works over with webcam capabilities05:14
seliniumHi all, i have started to get error message 'Failed to run nautilus: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.' while trying to gksudo nautilus. Any ideas?05:15
brennerthoreauputic: for some reason i always join the joke channels to see if they actually exist :)05:15
hardw1reok, ummm, well, when i have my webcam plugged in it causes certain things to not work properly, such like Counter-Strike Source.05:15
thoreauputicbrenner: of course they exist - you just are in aminority of one in them ;)05:15
hardw1remy webcam also has a built in microphone05:15
brennerah, of course. :)05:16
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seliniumhi thoreauputic05:16
brenneranyway, where has nalioth been lately?05:17
endgamerUh-oh...I changed the repositories but glibc still isn't on any of the lists...am I being dumb?05:17
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thoreauputicbrenner: of course if you have doubts about their existence you can /join #epistemology05:18
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thoreauputic;)05:18
surfduein xine and totem05:18
surfduei cant play .wmv05:18
thoreauputicselinium: hello :)05:18
surfdueis there a way 2 do this05:18
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apokryphosthoreauputic: d'oh, I actually thought it existed for a second05:18
thoreauputicsurfdue:  install w32codecs05:18
brennerthoreauputic: scary...one person in there.05:18
hardw1reguzu: any idea why my webcam causes the system to not run smoothly?05:18
thoreauputichahah05:18
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apokryphosthoreauputic: matters of existence and being are generally more suited to metaphysics though; even if there's an overlap with epistemology quite a bit05:19
seliniumthoreauputic: do you know anything about Xauth? MIne is playing up05:19
brennerthat's him/her05:19
guzuhardw1re, no, soory05:19
thoreauputicselinium:  sudo rm ~/.Xauthority  ;)05:19
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brennerapokryphos: /j #smart-alecs05:20
brenner:D05:20
apokryphosheh05:20
apokryphosbrenner: you left just before I could silence you ;-)05:20
thoreauputicapokryphos: or theology  ! /me hides05:20
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endgamerJBailey? Help?05:20
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brennerapokryphos: heh....i thought it was probably some weirdo....so i did a runner. :)05:20
jbaileyendgamer: Did you run apt-get update after?05:21
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apokryphosbrenner: and you've changed your mind on that? 8)05:21
endgamerWell, I refreshed my lists (I'm using synaptic)05:21
jbaileyHmm, and  you're sure it's all pointing at breezy now?05:21
brenner>_>05:21
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hardw1rewill breezybadger run on the x86_64 kernels?05:21
bmonnenshey, i have on 1 computer with dual screen vino enabled, now when i connect with my laptop to that computer (using vncviewer) its all screwed up, is there a way you can fix this given some extra command line arguments or something else?05:21
thoreauputicbrenner: more weird than apokryphos would require thoreaup ^H^H^H ... oh, wait05:22
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endgamerrunning apt-get update now, maybe synaptic didn't...ah, it is doing some new stuff...05:22
brennerendgamer: need to use 'reload' in synaptic05:22
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guzuwhere can be reported ubuntu bugs?05:23
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seliniumthoreauputic: I keep getting Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. even after removing that xauth05:23
endgamerI checked all the repositories on my list, all on breezy, none reported error - could I be missing a rep?05:23
brennerlol05:23
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nudnick2I'm installing linux and i cometo a screen where it prompts either to choose linux-386, linux-image-386, or linux-image-2.6.20-5-386. what should i choose?05:24
brennerjust saw this:05:24
brenner!bugs05:24
seliniumthoreauputic: I am trying to gksudo, would i need to remove the root .Xauth file?05:24
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thoreauputicselinium: hmmm... I doubt it but I guess it won't hurt to try05:24
HappyFoolnudnick2: linux-38605:24
apokryphosguzu: bugzilla.ubuntu.com05:25
HappyFoolnudnick2: what distro is that? doesn't look like ubuntu to me05:25
nudnick2HappyFool: why that one, what are the differences05:25
guzubrenner, or even better, if apt is no longer working, are there other ways to install .debs?05:25
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HappyFoolnudnick2: linux-386 is a 'fake' package, which will install the others. it makes for easier upgrades05:25
nudnick2HappyFool, its ubuntu. i did expert install mode because ubuntu hates my pcmcia reader05:25
thoreauputicselinium: or " touch .Xauthority " ; chown username:username .Xauthority05:25
hardw1reguzu: dpkg -i name.deb05:25
guzuapokryphos, thnx a lot05:25
brennerguzu: should be avoided, but you can use dpkg -i05:26
HappyFoolnudnick2: ok. funny kernel version (2.6.20)05:26
endgamerCould I be missing a repository? Which is the main one I need on there?05:26
guzuhardw1re, brenner thnx very much :)05:26
nudnick2HappyFool, now you're telling me to do the other one?05:26
HappyFoolnudnick2: oh, 2.6.10-5-386 -- right05:26
HappyFoolnudnick2: install 'linux-386'05:26
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nudnick2i just did that :D05:26
nudnick2thanks05:27
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thoreauputicselinium: oops, .Xauthority has 600 perms so the last one won't work methinks05:27
hardw1reto update to breezy using the apt-get can i do apt-get dist-upgrade ?05:27
guzubrenner, looks like it can not be avoided since i don't know other way to do it except the broken apt :)05:27
brennerguzu: what app is it?05:27
guzubrenner, who?05:27
guzuapt?05:27
hardw1rewhat .deb package are you installing i think he means05:27
guzuwho/wich05:27
raphaHey all05:28
brenneryes, that's it :)05:28
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raphaCan Hoary be configured so that the "Open Drive Bay" button on the CD-ROM drives still works, like in Windows?05:28
guzuhardw1re, doesn't matter. it's not only on apt-get, but also on apt-cache05:28
seliniumthoreauputic: Is it worth trying?05:28
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endgamerJbailey? You still there mate?05:28
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thoreauputicselinium: what is causing the error?05:28
hardw1reok, to upgrade my distro to breezy do i need to add the breezy links into the source.lst and then do apt-get dist-upgrade ?05:29
thoreauputicselinium: which prog reports it?05:29
brennerguzu: it does matter, it could be a repo issue and you might still be able to use the easier way of apt instead of dpkg05:29
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seliniumthoreauputic: trying to start nautilus through gksudo05:29
GNULinuxerhardw1re: before that, do apt-get update05:29
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azambujahi05:29
guzubrenner, the whole system worked before upgrading linux-image or something ()ah! and gnupg, maybe?05:29
hardw1reah yeah05:29
Eryadanhello everybody05:29
nudnick2how is ubuntu pronounced? is it you-bunt-too or ew-bunt-too05:29
azambujaim trying to update my system and i get this error:05:30
GNULinuxernudnick: oo-boon-too05:30
azambujaE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:30
azambujaE: Unable to lock the download directory05:30
azambujahow can i fix this, please?05:30
thoreauputicselinium: what does ls -l .Xauthority say  ?05:30
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guzuhardw1re, brenner could be caused by upgrading gnupg?05:30
guzushould irefresh some keys somewhere?05:30
nophixazambuja: use sudo05:30
brennerguzu: how'd you upgrade those things?05:30
guzuapt-get upgrade05:30
thoreauputicazambuja: are you in the process of installing something ?05:31
Eryadanhi, i'm looking for a distro change, so here are some question about ubuntu: -> am i able to install /all/ the package available for debian (or where can i find a list) -> is there any problem compiling the nvidia drivers with it on AMD_6405:31
azambujanophix: i am using05:31
azambujathoreauputic: no05:31
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Stiivihow can I recompile the kernel to fit my machine? I want the same kernel as installed an I would like to do it in a clean (ubuntu) way05:31
guzu^brenn05:31
seliniumthoreauputic: Nothing now, we just rm'ed it05:31
brennerguzu: did you have a repo in there besides main, uni and multi?05:31
guzubrenner,^05:31
endgamerCheers anyway, I'll just do a dist-upgrade and see if that does it. See you guys.05:31
hardw1rehttp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main universe multiverse restricted05:31
guzubrenner, universe05:31
hardw1re^^ is that what i need to add?05:31
brenner....when you did the upgrade05:31
nophixazambuja: well, are you using 2 apt-get at the same time?05:31
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endgamerq05:32
thoreauputicselinium: logout/login to regenerate it then05:32
azambujanophix: no05:32
nophixazambuja: nevermind05:32
seliniumthoreauputic: Doh. Me being stupid again!05:32
guzubrenner, so no :)05:32
azambujanophix: i dont know whats happening... :-(05:32
brennerguzu: well, it sounds like it may have stuffed it up somehow....i'd work on getting that fixed rather than using work arounds for installing stuff.05:32
thoreauputicselinium: heheh - it isn't magic you know ;)05:33
nophixazambuja: check with "ps aux|grep apt"05:33
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guzubrenner, so wich way should i go now?05:33
zxc2005anyone know how to configure grub so I can select the relevant partitions on boot?05:34
brennerguzu: i'd start with posting the full error you get when you use apt-get to a pastebin05:34
azambujanophix: nothing, via terminal it works. via synaptic not05:34
azambujaim gonna restart05:34
azambujathanx05:34
guzubrenner, segmentation fault05:34
guzubrenner, that's all05:35
hardw1reok bbl05:35
Eryadandoes someone knows if i'm able to install all the package available for debian with ubuntu, and, if it isnt the case, could someone point me to available packages?05:35
hardw1recause i just issued the update command :P05:35
hardw1reso im gonna close all apps :P05:35
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brennerguzu: and what apt-get command are you using?05:35
guzubrenner, apt-get install smbfs05:35
brennerEryadan: mixing debian with ubuntu is a no-no afaik05:35
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brennerguzu: and it gives a segfault?  weird05:36
apokryphosEryadan: available packages can be browsed and searched on packages.ubuntu.com05:36
boogerhi, i've got a question about dvd buring05:36
Eryadanbrenner: ok, thank you05:37
boogercan any one help me?05:37
AlexBOhello!in the 5.04 version of Ubuntu there is firefox 1.02, but when i try to download an extension, it says me that my version is minor than 1.0. how can i download extensions then?05:37
guzubooger, ask05:37
brennerbooger: ask.  if anyone knows, they'll reply05:37
Eryadanapokryphos: thanks a lot that was exactly what i was looking for05:37
thoreauputicwoah... apt segfaulting is not a good sign...05:38
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guzuyeah :)05:38
surfduehi05:38
surfduecan05:38
guzubrenner, now i'm in apt-get -f install05:38
surfdueum can ubuntu do rpms?05:38
surfduei have a program that is in a rpm05:38
guzubrenner, seems good so far05:38
surfduecan i use it?05:38
brennerAlex: that's a bit of a bug...type about:config in the url bar05:38
AlexBOsurfdue, use alien05:38
brennersurfdue: what program?05:39
nophixbooger: just ask!05:39
nophix:)05:39
thoreauputicguzu: wild stab in the dark:  sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install05:39
surfduezipz05:39
surfduesip phone05:39
surfduewhat sip phone do u suggest?05:39
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raphaWhy doesn't AutoMount work properly in Hoary?05:39
nudnick2in expert install mode what does "configure apt" mean?05:39
boogerok i'm making iso file out of a video_ts folder everyway that I tried it my dvd player on my stero won't play it. how do I make dvd playable05:39
surfduei want one that works with dtmf.05:39
AlexBObrenner, what i have to search?05:39
surfduex-lite dosnt work with dtmf05:39
guzubtw, how can i select wich services to start or not on boot time?05:39
boogerI've tried this mkisofs -o file.iso /location_of_folder/05:39
thoreauputicnudnick: configuring apt is usually running apt-setup05:40
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brennersurfdue: linphone maybe?  (just apt-cache searching here)05:40
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guzuthoreauputic, seems to be fixed already with apt-get -f install :) thnx a lot05:40
brennerAlex: vendorsub05:40
guzubrenner, ^05:40
nophixbooger: don't you want to use k3b or something else instead?05:40
thoreauputicguzu: *whew*05:40
thoreauputicguzu: pour yourself a drink ;)05:40
boogerI don't know I'm still a noob05:40
guzulol05:40
boogerwill that app work?05:41
zxc2005I'm trying to put a "Hidden W95 FAT32" on my grub menu...it's on "/dev/sda1"...how would I structure the writing in menu.lst05:41
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AlexBObrenner, general.useragent.vendorSub ?05:41
antrixhi, need help configuring network on a G3 imac...05:41
guzunow what about who's starting on boot time? how can i configure this?05:41
brennerAlexBO: yes, i think so.05:41
jesperAny font experts around? I've broken the system so "all" fonts looks grained..05:41
brennerAlexBO: change it to the firefox version you have05:41
nophixbooger: k3b will work05:41
AlexBObrenner, i've setted 1.02 .05:41
thoreauputiczxc2005: that won't work - it's probably a container for other partitions05:42
brennerAlexBO: ok, try that now05:42
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eazel7hi ppl05:42
brennerAlexBO: what was the original setting OOI?05:42
catfoxhi all. does anyone know of a good and up to date python/gtk tutorial?05:42
eazel7is it possible to por anaconda to ubuntu?05:42
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boogercan I get gnomebaker to do the same thing?05:42
AlexBObrenner, no...i have written bad: i have got 1.06 version, and there was 1.02, so i changed it to 1.0605:42
eazel7progeny has done some work on porting to debian05:42
zxc2005thoreauputic, basically it's a partition placed there for a windows recovery type thing...by the manufacturer, it used to be booted by pressing f8 but grub obviously removed this. I was hoping I could put it in my boot menu?05:43
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nudnick2oh my god..... i finally get linux installed on my computer and it stalls booting up. it stalls at "Starting Hotplug subsystem" anyone know why it might do that?05:43
brennerAlexBO: oh, ok....let us know if it works05:43
AlexBObrenner, it seems work.thanks05:43
brenner:)05:43
Snopy_Hey! How do i get the mp3 support to work with ubuntu?05:43
jlduggernudnick2: it does take a while...05:43
thoreauputiczxc2005: ah, OK I see - but I don't know if it's possible05:43
antrixlspci doesn't list any network cards..05:43
nophix!mp305:43
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support05:43
antrix!mp305:44
zxc2005thoreauputic, so there's no way I can say to grub boot /dev/sda1?05:44
nudnick2jldugger. does it take this long everytime i boot up? or just the first run05:44
guzuzxc2005, probably an fat16 partiotion dos like so maybe you can find help on info grub05:44
eazel7Snopy_, for kde akode-mpeglib, for gnome gstreamer0.8-mad05:44
thoreauputiczxc2005: as I said , I don't know05:44
AlexBObrenner, oh-oh... Forecast 0.8.1.3 could not be installed because it's not compatible with the version of Firefox (only works with 1.0+)05:44
eazel7Snopy_, install those through sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad05:44
antrixubotu, are there irc logs somewhere then05:45
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, antrix05:45
brennerAlexBO: damn....well, check the forum for 'firefox extension' topics.05:45
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brennerlol05:45
jlduggernudnick, every time =( afaik. but it shouldnt be like more than 15 seconds.05:45
brennerantrix: /topic05:45
thoreauputicantrix:  see /topic05:45
thoreauputicbrenner: ha - a rare win for brenner ;)05:45
brenner1st time i've seen that ubotu rejection :)05:45
AlexBObrenner,  okey...thanks however05:45
antrixbrenner, thanx :)05:45
nudnick2jldugger, well its been like 4 minutes05:46
brennerthoreauputic: 3 less letters :)05:46
thoreauputicbrenner: *grin*05:46
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zxc2005guzu, how do I get to "info grub" :/05:47
jlduggernudnick, try control-c05:47
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brennerthoreauputic: rare win?  i always beat you. :D05:47
nudnick2nothing...05:47
kuenehi, i have just installed ubuntu on a acer travel mate 2300. it has a screen resolution of 2800x800. this is correctly written in my xorg.conf. but gnome starts with resolution of 1024x768. and i can not change it in the system preferences. why ist this like that?05:47
brennerzxc2005: type it in a terminal05:47
brenner!tell kuene about fixres05:47
brennerthoreauputic: see.... :)05:47
thoreauputicbrenner: conceptually, I'm way ahead ;)05:47
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kuenebrenner, fixres?05:48
guzuzxc2005, open terminal, type info grub, press enter :)05:48
thoreauputicbrenner: hah - impostor!05:48
jlduggernudnick, it may be, theres a bug in the hotplug system. i know they wanted to rewrite it to go faster, so they might have missed a corner condition that toasts you05:48
brennerkuene: check your private messages05:48
eazel7kuene, perhaps it's not written as first resolution at the xorg.conf05:48
nudnick2so what do you reccomend05:48
brennerthoreauputic: hehe...thought it was time for a nick change...people kept thinking i was female05:48
guzuanybody knows if conf.modules is still available (valid, i mean) in ubu 5.04?05:49
thoreauputicbrenner: yeah, i know the feeling: people keep thinking I'm male05:49
brennernot that there's anything wrong with that05:49
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brennerthoreauputic: so you aren't the lead singer of midnight oil? :D lol05:50
brenner*former lead05:50
thoreauputicbrenner: no, I have hair ;)05:50
surfdueis there a really easy app, i can use to merge 5 mp3s into one file05:50
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thoreauputicsurfdue: sure - cat05:50
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guzusurfdue, mp3wrap on sf.net05:50
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brennerthoreauputic: *i* thought you were male05:50
surfduecat ?05:51
thoreauputiccat file1.mp3 file2.mp3 > filebig.mp305:51
surfduenice05:51
surfdue:)05:51
guzusurfdue, and cat is even easier :)05:51
surfduethanks05:51
nudnick2any reason my computer might stall loading the hotplug subsystem?05:51
guzuman cat05:51
brennerdamn....didn't know cat could do that. :)05:51
HappyFoolcat'ing 3 mp3 files produces a working mp3 file?05:51
Bjorn2how to install a lexmark :o?05:51
thoreauputicbrenner: actually I am - but promise not to give my secret away05:51
seliniumthoreauputic: Sorry, talking to my daughter.05:51
thoreauputicHappyFool: sure05:52
seliniumthoreauputic: -rw-------  1 james james 120 2005-08-20 16:38 /home/james/.Xauthority05:52
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surfduecan cat merge any file05:52
surfdueliek video05:52
thoreauputicselinium: looks right05:52
surfduewav?05:52
Robbie___hello05:52
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brennerthoreauputic: i'm confused now. :)05:52
Robbie___can someone05:52
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Robbie___help me with rewriting my bootloader05:52
Robbie___bu05:52
Robbie___with lilo05:52
Robbie___cuz05:52
HappyFoolwav files have headers; i'm pretty sure you can't just 'cat' 3 wav files together05:52
thoreauputicbrenner: told you I was wway ahead , didn't I ? *g*05:52
Robbie___im using mandriva05:53
thoreauputicHappyFool: try it05:53
HappyFooli'm trying it with mp3 files right now05:53
seliniumthoreauputic: Will doeing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg sort it?05:53
Bjorn2whats the latest stable kernel ?05:53
Bjorn2i want to update my kernell05:53
guzusurfdue, note however that not all players will play such an audio/video file05:53
nudnick2so is there any reason my computer might stall loading the hotplug subsystem? it took me 3 hours to figure out what drivers were messing up the install process and now that i have it installed it won't boot :(05:53
thoreauputicselinium: I don't think so,no05:53
Bjorn2but i can't find it 12305:53
Bjorn2:o05:53
surfdue:P05:53
kemikbyt cat'ing mp3files there will be errors introduced05:54
antrix!logoff05:54
ubotuI don't know, antrix05:54
EasterSunshineyou can't cat mp3's together?05:54
thoreauputickemik: hmm -seems to work for me05:54
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EasterSunshinethoreauputic: wow! that's wicked!05:54
guzumore exactly sunc errors05:54
vitriolnudnick2: sounds like you need to blacklist a driver or something05:54
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nudnick2vitriol05:55
nudnick2how?05:55
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kemikthoreauputic:  sure it may *work*, but if the id3-tag and headers are catted they'll be interpreted as sound and probalby it wont sound correct05:55
QMario!Java05:55
ubotumethinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:55
thoreauputicEasterSunshine: I suggest you test it first ;)05:55
vitriolnudnick2: there is a file in /etc/hotplug05:55
kuenebrenner, still does not work, my xorg.conf is set up correctly. but gnome does only 1024x768...05:55
antrixI can't figure out what network card is on this imac box.... lspci doesn't list anything.. any idea how i configure it?05:55
vitriolnudnick2: i *think* it is /etc/hotplug/blacklist05:55
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guzusync05:55
guzuthoreauputic, there are players able to get over these sync errors, others can not05:55
EasterSunshinefor file in ls; do cat ls; done > everything.mp305:55
thoreauputickemik: *shrug* You're probably right - I know little about it05:56
vitriolnudnick2: what you need to do is figure out what module is messing up your system05:56
vitriolnudnick2: then add it to the blacklist file05:56
nudnick2vitriol, where do i enter that?05:56
keyeshello, i'm looking for a solution to active MP3 encoding profile for all the system, not for only one user05:56
vitriolnudnick2: to get to the blacklist file you need to boot up using the recovery mode kernel05:56
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keyesany idea ?05:56
EasterSunshinedo cat "$file" *05:56
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QMarioE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox05:56
QMarioE: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support05:56
vitriolnudnick2: do you know how to do that?05:56
brennerkuene: it's usually one of two problems: [1]  res isn't listed [2]  monitor rates aren't correct.05:57
Bjorn2Is there a howto installing Audigy 2 ZS cards ?05:57
Bjorn2Is there a howto installing Audigy 2 ZS cards ?05:57
Bjorn2:o05:57
nudnick2vitriol, i think it stalls during recovery mode too05:57
Stiivisee you later05:57
brennerkuene: post your xorg.conf to a pastebin please05:57
vitriolnudnick2: you tried that?05:57
QMarioThoreauputic, that was my problem.05:57
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vitriolnudnick2: in that case ....there is another way but it's more advanced05:57
QMarioDo you know the solution to it?05:57
brennerStiivi: later05:57
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vitriolnudnick2: you can use the ubuntu livecd to boot from05:57
vitriolnudnick2: and mount your filesystem from the livecd05:57
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thoreauputicQMario: not at this hour - I'm probably half asleep05:58
guzuhow can i find out wich version of alsa is installed?05:58
vitriolnudnick2: then, you can edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist and add the module that is causing you grief05:58
Snopy_eazel7, Do I need to reboot after the install to get the programs to handle mp3?05:58
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kemikcat thoreauputic > /dev/null05:58
nudnick2well i boot up during recovery but there is nowhere to enter what you said before it gets to the hotplug part?05:58
kemik:>05:58
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Bjorn2Is there a howto installing Audigy 2 ZS cards ?05:58
brennerSnopy_: no05:58
vitriolnudnick2: so it won't fully boot in recovery mode? or it will?05:59
jeff_hannBjorn2:have ya tried google?05:59
Bjorn2not yet, ;)05:59
QMarioBob2, are you awake?05:59
nophixguzu: dpkg -l|grep alsa05:59
nudnick2nope05:59
Bjorn2its easier to ask05:59
eazel7Snopy_, IIIRC no, but perhaps running gst-register would be needed05:59
Bjorn2:>05:59
nudnick2it wont05:59
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QMario!Firefox06:00
ubotuQMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:00
seliniumthoreauputic: can you think of anything else i can try? on Xauth06:00
QMario!browser06:00
ubotuQMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:00
brennerBjorn2: afaik, no06:00
thoreauputickemik:  cat kemik > /dev/meatgrinder06:00
jeff_hannso RTFM and if you DON'T find satisfactory results,come back06:00
QMario!Internet06:00
ubotuQMario: Wish i knew06:00
QMario!Botsnack06:00
ubotu:)06:00
thoreauputickemik: ;-)06:00
vitriolnudnick2: then your best bet is mounting the partition from a ubuntu livecd and editing it from there (this can be fairly complicated if you've never done it before)06:00
kemikthoreauputic:  damn you got some wicked machines connected to your comp ;)06:00
nudnick2wanna walk me through :)06:00
vitriolnudnick2: sure i'll be here06:00
thoreauputickemik: built it myself ;)06:00
brennerBjorn2: if you're having sound probs and you've searched the wiki and forum with no luck, get a hold of crimsun when he's active in here...he's #ubuntu's sound guru.06:00
guzunophix, thnx!06:00
umberleighhow do i set the sound card that the system uses? it seems to be setup to use my webcam-with-mike, but i need to set it to use my actual soundcard. the card is setup as far as i can see, as alsamixer -c 1 uses the card06:01
vitriolnudnick2: first thing, though, do you know what module causes it to freeze?06:01
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Snopy_eazel7, Thanx dude. Now i just miss the divx support06:01
nudnick2i'm about to leave will you be on later tonite?06:01
umberleighso, where's the config file where i set which card to use?06:01
nudnick2unless it dosen't take that long06:01
guzuBjorn2, alsa 1.0.8 should have drivers for it although maybe some things are missing like recording, check it anyway :)06:01
thoreauputic------> sleep06:01
eazel7Snopy_, it's there going around, look for gstreamer0.8-plugins and install it all06:01
thoreauputicgood night all06:01
vitriolnudnick2: can't guarantee that, but somebody else here will help you, surely :)06:01
HappyFoolchrs thoreauputic06:01
QMarioGood Night.06:01
Bjorn2oke guzu06:01
vitriolnudnick2: it takes about 15 minutes probably06:01
brennerSnopy_:for divx, install w32codecs06:01
nudnick2how long will it take if we did it now06:01
nudnick2oh06:01
nudnick2we got time then06:01
nudnick2nm06:01
guzuthoreauputic, 'dnight and thank you :)06:01
nudnick2let me go grab my live cd06:01
vitriolnudnick2: you have a livecd?06:01
vitriolok06:02
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vitriolnudnick2: what module causes it to freeze?06:02
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nudnick2hotplug subsystems06:02
vitriolhmm06:02
guzuBjorn2, if you make it record by mic, let me know, btw :)06:02
vitriolthat's all it says?06:02
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brennerumberleigh: 'apps > sound > vol. control > file > change device' maybe?06:03
_martinIs there a save method for upgrading to colony 3 without using the iso?06:03
kuenebrettcar, my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/144006:03
Bjorn2guzu, i will06:03
nudnick2vitriol, one second i'm getting on windows to see how much battery power is left on the system i'm installing ubuntu on06:03
Bjorn2but i just started today06:03
kuenesorry i mean: brenner , my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/144006:03
Bjorn2>_>06:03
vitriol!hotplug06:03
ubotuvitriol: I don't know, could you explain it?06:03
keyesanyone know how to activate sound-juicer mp3 encoding for all users (system-wide)06:03
seliniumSnopy_ http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  for w32codecs06:03
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vitriolnudnick2: the problem with completely disabling hotplug is that your mouse, keyboard and a number of other devices may not work without it06:04
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nudnick2..06:05
matsurHillTop, after installing a 32 bit chroot on my amd64 ubuntu all the interface fonts are really fuzzy. any ideas?06:05
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nudnick2so is it possible that i can't use ubuntu on this system?06:05
vitriolif it's something within hotplug, such as snd_intel8x0m or wdt_pci causing the freeze06:05
vitriolthen you can comment those out06:05
vitriolnudnick2: yes it's possible06:05
epod69hey, anyone know a beginners guide link to setting up sound in ubuntu?06:05
brennerkuene: what res did you want?06:05
seliniumanybody around who nows about Xauthority files? I keep getting  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file   erors06:06
brennerkuene: nvm, stupid question06:06
brennerkuene: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange06:06
seliniumerrors*06:06
vitriolnudnick2: if it froze on hotplug and didn't say anything, chances are it was just one module causing the problem06:06
umberleighbrenner: i'm using KDE, hence KMix. i can set the mixer to 'NVidia nForce2', but i still don't get any sound and it resets back to the camera when i reboot anyway06:06
kuenebrenner, i want 1200x80006:06
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brennerkuene: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange06:07
guzuanybody knows wich module should be loaded for an gravis ultrasound isa card? or maybe sound blaster16?06:07
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brennerumberleigh: yeah, sorry, i'm not really a sound guru......you might want to get a hold of crimsun when he's active in here.  i don't know really06:08
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jc-dentoni cannot find description anywhere about Breezy Badger06:08
matsurany ideas on the fuzzy fonts after a chroot install?06:08
brennerumberleigh: have you checked the forums for any threads?06:08
brenner!breezy06:09
ubotu[breezy]  the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/06:09
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jc-dentonbrenner: thank you06:09
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umberleighi've read the stuff ubotu gave me, but i'll do a search now for other stuff :-$06:09
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guzu!'isa sound card'06:10
ubotuguzu: I don't know, could you explain it?06:10
jc-dentonhumm06:10
guzu!isa sound card06:10
ubotuguzu: I don't know, could you explain it?06:10
jc-dentoni need technical details06:10
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jc-dentonon the ubuntu site i couldn't find anything06:11
guzuubotu, no :(06:11
ubotuguzu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:11
jc-dentonwhat about selinux, x.org, gnome?06:11
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paganiniHowdy06:11
antrixhow do i reinvoke the 'network configure' step from installation... after install06:12
paganiniI really like Ubuntu.06:12
robertjheya all. There is a non-free licence that allows comments in code of a piece of software that the code interoperates with to invalidate portions of that licence06:12
paganiniAnd this friend of mine knows this, and wants to try it, but he's having a little trouble installing.06:12
paganiniSo, I'm trying to give him a hand, but he's having a strange problem.06:12
robertjtheoretically, can you take the code that is being interoperated with and add disclaimers to slice out portions of the licence of question?06:12
matsurhttp://www.columbia.edu/rxl2101/Screenshot.png that's what it looks like. See the fuzziness I'm talking about?06:12
skoraand what is it paganini06:13
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brennerjc-denton: heh, it is a little lacking...06:13
paganiniHe's trying to install on a Compaq SR1010NX notebook. It boots off the CD OK, but when it starts loading the kernel, he gets two lines (initrd I think) and it resets.06:13
jc-dentonbrenner: lacking?06:13
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matsurSorry, http://www.columbia.edu/~rxl2101/Screenshot.png06:14
paganiniI found a couple of links that seem related, but they're for Fedora06:14
paganinihttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/18/2005/02/1/22952406:14
paganinihttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12181906:14
guzujc-denton, file not found06:14
paganiniSo, I was wondering if anyone has ever encountered this with ubuntu before, and what I should do about it.06:14
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martin-topyli: all works great now, thx!06:15
jc-dentonfile not found?06:15
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ZotnixWhile I know dangerous and not very supported, how do I force install a package via dpkg and make apt-get shut up about it completely?06:16
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chriszanfgot a couple of issues: no sound &  getting 500 server error with apache206:17
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guzuanyody knows if alsaconf is available in ubuntu?06:18
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kurumincomo ver o hda pelo ubuntu live cd06:18
paganinialsaconf is abailable in ubuntu.06:18
paganini*available06:18
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paganiniIt doesn't work too well with my AC97 onboard though. :)06:18
guzupaganini, great! where?06:18
nophixguzu: alsa-utils06:18
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guzunophix, i suppose so, but it's not in path :( and i have no idea how to query a package for a file :(06:19
brennerkuene: still there?06:19
paganiniguzu, can you use Synaptic Package manager?06:20
guzupaganini, yes06:20
guzuwhy?06:20
brennerguzu: packages.ubuntu.com works well for me06:20
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guzubrenner, thnx, -i'll check it out06:21
Nodehey06:21
paganiniOpen it up, select "sections" in the lower left, and select "all" in the upper left. Then just type "alsa-utils" and it'll jump right to it.06:21
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paganiniAssuming you have the right repositories installed.06:21
Nodedoes anybody here have the ULI SATA drivers so I can setup ubuntu on on my A64 ?06:21
Node(or no of a way to get it working)06:21
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kurumincomo ver o hda pelo ubuntu live cd06:22
topylimartin-: great!06:22
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kuenebrenner, does not work still. i think i will switch back do debian and xfree8606:22
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brennerkuene: did you run the command i gave you?06:22
guzupaganini, alsa-utils is installed, alsaconf can't be located06:23
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guzubrenner, You have searched for alsaconf in hoary, architecture i386.06:23
guzuCan't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture.06:23
kueneyes06:23
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brennerkuene: what was the output?06:23
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brennerguzu: dpkg -L alsa-utils | grep alsaconf ?06:24
Adolfhi just a question here, are there boot diskettes to boot from diskette and load a cdrom driver to install from there?06:24
kuenebrenner, but i think you mean mode not monitorrange?06:24
umberleighpaganini: i can't find alsaconf in alsautils, i'm using hoary with the default repositories, plus universe and restricted06:24
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skoranode - did you try the AMD site ?06:24
brennerkuene: no, use the exact command06:24
ninjafishhi, if flash-nonfree not in multiverse any more because I cannot find the package06:24
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oonoonwhere can i find info about the runlevels of ubuntu ?06:24
kuenethere is no output then...06:24
guzubrenner, :( nothing06:24
brennerkuene: ok, we can't autodetect...what's your monitor model?06:25
skoraNode, youcan be a bit more descriptive about your problems, that would help :] 06:25
Adolfwhat about boot diskettes06:25
guzubrenner, paganini still apt-cache search says alsaconf is in alsa-utils06:25
NodeNo linux distro i have tried today has been able to detect my hdd.06:25
kuene15.4" WXGA TFT LCD mit 1280 x 800 Pixel resolution with Intel? Extreme Graphics 2 Technologie06:25
Nodewhich is an SATA drive, with a ULi M1573 controller06:25
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chriszanfhow do I change apache2 "fully qualified domain name" or what IP address it listens on?06:26
guzubrenner, are you on breezy?06:26
QMarioNode, where can I get JCreator?06:26
brennerguzu: no, hoary06:26
AdolfNode is your hdd correct set up06:26
brennerkuene: ah, so, laptop?06:26
Nodeadolf - yes, it works fine in windows06:26
kuenebrenner, acrer travel mate.06:26
guzubrenner, somebody above says it's on breezy but i dont remeber who, i was curious if there is alsaconf06:26
othernoobhi, does anyone know of a program to convert .ape to .mp3?06:27
Nodebut i had to load extra drivers during the windows setup from a floppy06:27
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chriszanfhow do I change apache2 "fully qualified domain name" or what IP address it listens on?06:27
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paganiniHmm.06:27
paganiniI'm running Hoary.06:27
oonoonhow to boot on console (no X), which runlevel ?06:27
NodeQMario - not an illegal version, no.06:27
paganiniAnd I remember using alsa-conf.06:27
paganiniBut, now I don't seem to have it installed.06:27
AdolfNode i dont have probs with sata under Suse06:27
ninjafishCan someone who uses mulitverse do me a favour and see if their synaptic can find flash-nonfree as it is mentioned in the wiki but I cannot find it06:27
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Nodei just tried installing 9.3 (i386 version though) and it couldnt detect the,m06:27
paganiniLooks like the new software conflicts with the old alsa-conf06:27
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Adolfeven knoppix 3.9 has no probs with sata on my systems06:28
adwaithello all06:28
Nodeive read a few people having problems with linux and this controller (and this computer SHuttle ST20G5)06:28
brennerguzu: yeah, it might not be in the hoary repos06:28
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brenneri.e. need to install alsa manually or something06:28
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Adolfi hope you find out what is wrong06:28
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kuenebrenner, i do not know what else to do... intel makes very good drivers for the grafic chip so...06:29
EasterSunshinetwo problems: first off, man is formatting the documents with more, instead of how it used to be before where i can use up and down arrows, and secondly, how do i save a buffer in vi?06:29
chriszanfhow do I change apache2 "fully qualified domain name" or what IP address it listens on?06:29
Nodeme too, or I doubt i'll ever be using linux :)06:29
andy_ninjafish, is multiverse activated?06:29
brennerninjafish: flashplugin-nonfree06:29
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guzubrenner, k thnx a lot, i'll see what i have to do06:29
brennerkuene: try changing your rates06:29
brennerto these generic ones:06:29
brennerHorizSync          30-9606:29
brenner     VertRefresh        50-16006:29
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darkheartEasterSunshine When you say 'buffer', you just mean save the file you are working on?06:30
brennerkuene: i assume you know how to back up your xorg.conf file so you can copy the old one over later if needed06:30
Adolfi like to install ubuntu on an ancient system, damnsmalllinux runs fine on it but i need boot diskettes, anyone???06:30
andy_brenner,  isn't it 30-9506:30
EasterSunshinechriszanf: use the directive Listen to change the listening ports eg "Listen 80"06:30
kuenebratsche, ;)06:30
brennerandy_: got it off here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:30
EasterSunshinedarkheart: yes, i have had vi dump the buffer before...06:30
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QMario!JCreator06:30
ubotuI haven't a clue, QMario06:30
QMario!Java06:30
ubotuhmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:30
andy_there's a sticker on my monitor with 30-95 and 50-16006:30
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ciberamaruI dont't speak English06:31
brennerkuene: basically, i think your rates are wrong.06:31
darkheartEasterSunshine If you want to save what you are working on, in command mode ':w' will save it. Or ':w <filename>' if you want to call it something else.06:31
NodeQMario: bit torrent06:31
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QMario!Botsnack06:31
ubotu:)06:31
brennerkuene: having your debian xfree file might be handy actually06:31
ciberamarudo someone speak Spanish?06:31
QMarioNode, isn't it "free" though?06:31
brenner!es06:31
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:31
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andy_da gaat06:31
ciberamaruThank you!06:31
adwaitciberamaru: #ubuntu-es06:32
Nodedunno, presumed it was an ide you have to pay for, if its free, check www.jcreator.com06:32
EasterSunshinechriszanf: oh sry ip adress...you need to use the VirtualHost directive eg <VirtualHost www.wee.org> ... </VirtualHost>06:32
EasterSunshinedarkheart: thx06:32
ninjafishI am using http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ with multiverse restricted main and universe I searched for flah and all I get is libflash06:32
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ninjafishs/flah/flash06:32
Adolfbye cu and keep up the good work06:32
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chriszanfEasterSunshine: in the .conf?06:32
brennerninjafish: flashplugin-nonfree06:32
darkheartEasterSunshine Btw, you can also save w/ 'shift+z+z' in command mode =) That will save and quit.06:32
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EasterSunshinechriszanf: yes06:33
brennerninjafish: it's in multiverse06:33
adwaitcan someone tell me, how stable is the current release of breezey?06:33
EasterSunshineubotu tell me about pastebin06:33
adwait!pastebin06:34
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:34
brenneradwait: well, the warning's gone from the topic, but i personally still wouldn't use it06:34
brenneri leave the risk to you06:34
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andy_!mplayer06:34
ubotuandy_: What?06:34
andy_!mplayer-plugin06:34
ubotuI don't know, andy_06:34
adwaitbrenner: hmm.....i don't wanna wait till october......06:34
andy_!w32codecs06:34
andy_!wmv06:35
ubotuandy_: I give up, what is it?06:35
adwait!info mplayer-hoary06:35
EasterSunshinechriszanf: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1441 <--there is my apache2.conf, in the <VirtualHost ...> you can use hostnames instead of ip addresses like i did06:35
andy_!play wmv files in firefox06:35
ubotuandy_: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:35
andy_long time ago yes06:35
adwaitlol06:36
andy_!play .wmv06:36
ubotuandy_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:36
brennerandy_: you're bordering on flooding....use /msg06:36
adwaitandy_: did u try the media connector plugin for firefox?06:36
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andy_guess not, let's check out, thx06:37
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paganiniOK, so, it turns out that my friend's computer is *not* a notebook, but a desktop.06:37
jamie_kanyone help me configure my sound. which has recently given up the ghost?06:37
paganini(This is what happens when you try to do tech-support of IRC)06:37
adwaithehe06:38
adwaitjamie_k: what did u do b4 it stopped working?06:38
paganiniof = over06:38
jamie_kadwait, i was trying to fix the problem with esd not playing sounds accross multiple apps, and installed polypaudio06:39
kuenebrenner, still does not work but now i can choose in gnome prefernces between 3 resolutions: 1027x768 800x600 640x480 but no 1200x800... what other sync rates are reasonable?06:39
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adwaitjamie_k: well, if u haven't got the multiple sounds working with this, u could try uninstalling it06:40
jamie_kadwait, i did06:40
adwaitalso, for multiple sounds, try the ubuntu forums method06:40
brennerkuene: widescreen complicates things06:40
Bjorn2who asked me if i got my microphone working under audigy 2 ?06:40
adwait!multiple sounds06:40
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, adwait06:40
adwait!multiple_sounds06:40
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, adwait06:40
jamie_kadwait, it's now completely silent -- i also follwed ths : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=888206:40
kuenebrenner, oh...06:40
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brennerkuene: it's not that bad!06:40
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Bjorn2who asked me if i got my microphone working under audigy 2 ?06:41
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brennerkuene: but basically, you'll need to either find your rates for your computer model by googling06:41
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brennermultiple sounds:06:41
brenner!sound06:41
ubotusound is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/06:41
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kuenebrenner, no i dont think so. i will have do some research. i thank you very very much for your help. you sure showed me the right way!06:42
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jamie_kubotu, i'll follow the second link thx06:42
ubotujamie_k: What?06:42
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brennerkuene: hopefully, you'll give ubuntu a longer go before you decide to go back to debian06:42
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adwaitjamie_k: ubotu = a bot06:42
seliniumAnybody know how to sort out xauth problems?06:42
Node_lmao!06:42
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volatile_hey, how do I get rid of an RPM package converted to DEB from my ubuntu system?06:43
kuenebrenner, its for my father :)06:43
adwaitvolatile_: i guess dpkg -r should work06:43
brennerkuene: tip: google with 'HorizSync' as a keyword06:43
volatile_I converted the RPM using alien, then installed the DEB, but it didn't install right06:43
volatile_ok06:43
volatile_thx06:43
volatile_let me try :D06:43
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volatile_do I have to type in the package name?06:43
brennerkuene: oh, well hope he sticks longer with it :)06:43
jamie_kadwait, heheh it sounded like a human06:43
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adwaitjamie_k: hehe.........06:44
brennervolatile_: locally installed deb files show up in synaptic06:44
adwaitvolatile_: yes06:44
volatile_ok06:44
volatile_it's a custom progrma install though06:44
volatile_will it still show up in synaptic?06:44
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seliniumvolitile_ Yes it should06:45
brennervolatile_: if you used dpkg -i, yes06:45
volatile_cool, I'm using dpkg06:45
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volatile_it's working06:45
volatile_thx06:45
brennervolatile_: should be in the sections list06:45
ninjafishI have pasted an attempt to get flashplugin-nonfree and an apt-get update http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1443 showing a list of repositorys06:45
seliniumany bluetooth wizards about?06:45
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volatile_I uninstalled it06:46
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f_newtonhas planetmirror.com been discontinued?06:46
volatile_let me explain06:46
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BETA7umm06:47
BETA7quite alot of ppl here06:47
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brennerninjafish: you don't have multiverse enabled.06:47
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brennerninjafish: i think you're getting confused...the mirrormax line is backports06:47
VeonAnyone know if there is any program for Ubuntu which can connect with Ipod?06:47
seliniumninjafish: WHere are you from? I'll send you a repo list. you need mutliverse enabled06:47
brennerninjafish: just use the repo list found here:06:47
brenner!repos06:47
ubotuhmm... repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:47
ninjafishI am from uk06:48
volatile_I installed linux through VMware, then I installed the VMware Tools into ubuntu, but I used the RPM, I converted it to DEB then used the dpkg to install the DEB, it didn't work, so now I uninstalled the .DEB and tried to install from the binary but it says that "a previous installation of VMware has been detected" even though I removed it... Any ideas?06:48
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ninjafishThanks I will update my lists06:48
brennerVeon: gtkpod06:48
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Veonbrenner, Thanx.06:49
f_newtonis there another extras site beside planetmirror?06:49
HappyFool!hoary-extras06:49
ubotuwell, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:49
brennervolatile_: you might have traces of your deb file install left06:49
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HappyFoolvolatile_: try dpkg --purge <whatever>06:50
volatile_ok06:50
eruinanyone know where to get this metacity theme? http://www.stellingwerff.com/?p=506:50
volatile_let me tryu06:50
eruinsorry, url is http://www.stellingwerff.com/TheWidgetFactory/The%20Widget%20Factory.png06:50
volatile_purging now06:50
brennerpurge is such a cool word :)06:50
f_newton!backports06:50
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section06:50
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Seveaseruin, impossible06:50
eruinSeveas: why is that?06:51
Seveasthat's still in heavy development as you can read in that blog post06:51
maximaus[very nervous] Hey all, I ran Hoary-Live all last night (mounted Warty to use Flash and Realplayer), today Warty won't run and my /home partition is invisible to explore2fs (using XP) [/very nervous]  Run a live Linux CD and do a "fsck"?06:51
eruinSeveas: the metacity theme, not the gtk theme ;)06:51
f_newtonSeveas, is planetmirror.com down temporarily or is it a permanent thing?06:51
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Seveaseruin, ah, ok06:52
Seveasdunno, ask richard himself :)06:52
volatile_what's the command to delete a directory?06:52
volatile_in bash?06:52
brennermaximaus: wow  livecd shouldn't have done that06:52
HappyFoolrm -rf06:52
brennervolatile_: rm -rf <dir>06:52
brennervolatile_: be careful though :)06:52
volatile_ok06:52
volatile_thx06:52
surfduein gnome, how do i cahnge my dtk theme06:52
surfduegtk*06:52
guzua-ha! there's a package called discover :)06:52
maximausI don't know if it's the live CD or a borked HDD, but both partitions are borked.06:53
f_newtonvolatile either locate or whereis the files first to learn where they all installed to06:53
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f_newtonwhich could do the job too06:53
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f_newtonrm -rf is a very powerful and permanent solution06:53
paganiniROFL!06:53
seliniumSeveas: I am having problems with Xauthority. Can you help?06:53
brennersurfdue: gnome-theme-manager?06:53
Bjorn2heh06:54
Bjorn2I can't eject my cd anymore06:54
Bjorn2when i type eject in terminal06:54
Bjorn2it does nothing06:54
topylivolatile_: you can remove an empty dir with rmdir. if it's not empty, you need rm -rf as noted06:54
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f_newtonwhat is the output Bjorn2 ?06:54
Bjorn2ject: unable to eject, last error: Onjuist argument06:54
Seveasselinium, just remove the ~/.Xauthority file :)06:54
guzuBjorn2, umount -l06:54
Bjorn2Its dutch :x06:54
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eruinanyone know which package provides fglrxinfo ?06:54
chmurihi06:54
guzuBjorn2, only if you loose your hope to find out who's locking the cd drive :)06:55
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surfduedoes ubuntu come with a text to speach program06:55
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brennerubotu: tell eruin about ati06:55
apokryphoseruin: xorg-driver-fglrx06:55
seliniumSeveas: Done that. But i stil get error   Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.06:55
chmuriwhos from poland i need help..:)06:55
Arniasurfdue: Festival06:55
f_newtonBjorn2, if all else faile reboot the box and eject it that way ...or get a paper clip and find the little hole06:55
RiXtErhey all... just got my ubuntu system installed... i need a root password though... any ideas?06:55
paganiniSo, apparently the kernel has a problem with Compaq Presario SR1010NX desktops (they use MSI motherboards of some sort). It doesn't get past loading init.rd before it resets. Apparently, some Asus motherboards also have this same problem.06:55
Bjorn2reboot the whole system06:55
seliniumSeveas: after i have logged back in again06:55
Bjorn2or just X ?06:56
f_newtonSeveas, was that ask richard comment concerning planetmirror?06:56
metiscan someone help me figure out my postfix? trying to make it work for my creloaded website06:56
paganiniWith Fedora, there's a patched kernel you can download to boot off of, then switch to the regular install media.06:56
HappyFoolBjorn2: try to find out what's using the cdrom using 'lsof' or 'fuser' (e.g., lsof /dev/cdrom)06:56
surfduehow do i start this festival06:56
surfdueor getit06:56
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Bjorn2nautilus is06:56
paganiniMy question is: is there anything like this for ubuntu? And, how likely is it that the fedora patched boot kernel would be able to install Ubuntu?06:56
volatile_I have a tather simple question but I can't figure it out, how do you determine the disk space left on your HD?06:57
Bjorn2but i don't see it on my screen?06:57
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f_newtonpaganini, uh compaq either uses gigabyte or aopen boards06:57
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HappyFoolBjorn2: hmm. no minimized windows?06:57
surfduenvm06:57
Bjorn2nope06:57
dgottfriedvolatile_: df -ahl06:57
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HappyFoolBjorn2: well, you can either try to track it down, or just logout and login and try again06:57
Seveasf_newton, no that was to eruin06:57
paganinif_newton, check this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/18/2005/02/1/22952406:57
volatile_lol, ok :D06:57
SeveasI know nothing about planetmirror06:57
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f_newtonok thanks....06:57
guzuBjorn2, for root password, i've booted in safe mode (or whatever name has the second entry on the grub menu wich in fact is runlevel1), then: passwd and entered the root password i want06:58
chmuriwhat is the asembler and turbo pascal for linux programs??06:58
Seveaschmuri, fpc06:58
HappyFoolBjorn2: i guess 'pkill nautilus' might work too; not sure what that will break06:58
Seveas(for pascal)06:58
topyliguzu: you might as well do "sudo passwd root" :)06:58
HappyFoolassembler is nasm, or gas (i think)06:59
f_newtonpaganini, while I cannot put it past them and it is possible ive missed a run or two.. ive never known compaq to use msi boards... I guess I live and learn eh?   you did id it with the fccid# right?06:59
Bjorn2hmm06:59
Bjorn2i killed nautilus06:59
Bjorn2it was hidden somewhere Oo06:59
SeveasHappyFool, gas indeed06:59
eruinhmm, are packages supposed to put stuff in /usr/X11R6 ?07:00
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ninjafishhmm taking of root, my root terminal does not ask for a password any more, how do I unroot myself?07:00
surfduedoes festival have a gue?07:00
surfduegui07:00
eruinI mean, wasn't that changed to /usr/X11 or similar?07:00
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Seveaseruin, on hoary: yes, on breezy: possibly, but not in breezy final07:00
f_newtonSeveas, I cannot seem to get planetmirror.com (backport extras) to load in browser or using apt-get and I was wondering if anyone knew if it was down... I need java07:00
HappyFool!hoary-extras07:00
ubotusomebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:00
Seveas!hoary-extras07:00
Seveashey!07:00
HappyFool:P07:00
bratschesurfdue: I don't think so.07:01
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paganinif_newton, nah, I don't have physical access to the machine. It's in kansas city. I'm basing my assement on my trust in the competence of others.07:01
surfdueis there a text to speach app with a gui?07:01
paganiniSo, I could be totally wrong. :)07:01
Seveasf_newton, grab another mirror from that page07:01
f_newtonok Seveas will try...07:01
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Seveasf_newton, or use 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ /' while it's up07:01
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f_newtonpaganini you can go to compaq site with model number and possibly the data sheet will help you...  I have to run.'..thanks for the help y'all07:02
HappyFooloh, the assembler is called 'as' -- was wondering where it was07:02
surfdueis there a text to speach app with a gui??07:02
paganiniCool07:02
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chmurifpc in google i find??07:03
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topylisurfdue: i think the target audience of text-to-speech doen't care much about guis :)07:03
HappyFoolchmuri: there's a 'gpc' in the ubuntu repositories (gnu pascal compiler)07:03
sridwhy not this official? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//nginyang.uvt.nl/&ei=aWIHQ8exH6b4-AG79tG_Dg&sig2=fUXc1AhnZRytsfEgS0ttVQ07:03
sridsorry, nginyang.uvt.nl/07:04
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apokryphossrid: what is it?07:04
HappyFoolubuntu dvd image07:05
apokryphosand how is it not official?07:05
apokryphosyou can download all of it from releases.ubuntu.com07:05
HappyFoolit's not hosted on ubuntu.com (so i presume)07:05
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apokryphosit is07:05
HappyFoolwell, the dvd bittorrent thing went missing for a while07:05
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Bjorn2:(07:06
HappyFooland there wasn't an http link before -- is there one now?07:06
Bjorn2I tried to compile xchat 2.4.4 for my system07:06
surfdueconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH07:06
surfdueSee `config.log' for more details.07:06
sridwill shipit.ubuntulinux.org ship DVDs?07:06
surfduehow do i fix this07:06
Bjorn2But when i start it it says 2.4.1 ?07:06
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HappyFoolsurfdue: import 'build-essential'07:06
sridBjorn2: try /usr/local/bin/xchat07:06
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apokryphossrid: I don't think so, no. But the Install CD is thought to become live+install07:06
apokryphosnot sure about the development in htat, but it was a thought flying around some time ago07:06
chmuriwhen the new ubuntu version its steable relase07:07
chmuri??07:07
HappyFoolchmuri: october07:07
apokryphosOctober07:07
apokryphos!breezyrelease07:07
ubotuapokryphos: I haven't a clue07:07
raven3x7surfdue, and maybe also apt-get build-dep xchat07:07
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apokryphos!breezyschedule07:07
ubotuhmm... breezyschedule is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule07:07
srid!breezy-release07:07
ubotusrid: What?07:07
surfduewhy raven.07:07
sander__Could anyone help I get the error 'Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' even when I sudo.07:07
sridubotu: you suck!07:07
ubotusrid: I give up, what is it?07:07
surfduebuild-dep xchat07:07
surfduewhat will that do.07:07
surfdueim using xchat?07:07
raven3x7surfdue, well if you lack more dependencies that will probably get them07:08
raven3x7sander__, do try to use apt and synaptic at the same time?07:08
surfduechecking correct functioning of Qt installation... failure07:08
surfdueconfigure: error: Failed to find matching components of a complete07:08
surfdue                  Qt installation. Try using more options,07:08
surfdue                  see ./configure --help.07:08
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surfduehow doi fix this07:09
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phantom_hi people07:09
Bjorn2srid,07:09
HappyFoolsurfdue: you need to install the qt development libraries07:09
Bjorn2didn't work07:09
Bjorn2=/07:09
phantom_I'm new. Just installed Ubuntu07:09
HappyFoolsurfdue: what are you trying to install?07:09
surfduealias text to speach07:09
surfdueunless ther eis a deb package for it07:09
phantom_noob here. trying to fix ATI video and SoundCard07:09
surfdue:P07:09
ookdoes ubuntu have any video player package that would play divx and quicktime without additional tweaking? :)07:09
Bjorn2vlc ?07:10
HappyFoolsurfdue: the software is called 'alias' ?07:10
sander__raven3x7: I'm only using apt-get from the command line. I think something happened when I tried to apt-get and didn't have enough disk space.07:10
surfdueyes07:10
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surfduealias7.007:10
HappyFoolsurfdue: not obviously available in ubuntu repo's07:10
surfdue1.007:10
pudlandhi all, can anyone help with xsane parallel port scanner07:10
raven3x7sander__, oh. maybe you should try killall apt-get?07:10
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surfduehow doi fix this qt error?07:10
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surfduei have qt07:11
surfduei use it for skype.07:11
surfdueaparently it is installed07:11
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jordan_anyone in here have an ipod working with GTKpod?07:11
pudlandsays no device found07:11
jordan_over usb that is...07:11
paganiniThis is the motherboard that's having trouble. Anyone see anything here that would keep the kernel from loading?07:11
raven3x7surfdue, you need the development libraries.07:11
paganinihttp://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&lang=en&cc=us&product=403786&dlc=en&docname=c0006324407:11
HappyFoolsurfdue: i think you need libqt3-mt-dev07:11
surfduewow07:11
surfduelol07:11
surfdueok thansk07:11
surfduealot of files.07:12
Spudchathey guys07:12
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Spudchati got a question about eggdrops, the irc bot07:12
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pudlandcan anyone help with parallel port scanner config?07:12
justin`FireEgl: dum de dum dum07:12
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exuserhello all07:12
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sander__raven3x7: Thanks. There was a hung apt-get in the process list for some reason.07:12
Spudchatit says i need tcl but ive got it installed...maybe theres a diff package i need?07:12
setitehello07:12
surfduedarn07:13
surfduesame error07:13
QMario HappyFool, how do I change the environmental variable, "TMPDIR"? 07:13
raven3x7surfdue type sudo apt-get build-dep xchat07:13
HappyFoolSpudchat: you can install eggdrop from synaptic or with apt-get07:13
surfduei did07:13
raven3x7sander__, np07:13
HappyFoolraven3x7: he's not building xchat, i don't think07:13
Spudchatsynaptic07:13
QMario 07:13
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topyliQMario: TMPDIR=/foo/bar07:14
raven3x7HappyFool, he said he was...07:14
topyliQMario: for the current shell07:14
HappyFoolQMario: TMPDIR=/tmp/or/whatever,  or export TMPDIR=/tmp/or/whatever07:14
QMario  07:14
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HappyFoolraven3x7: i think that was Bjorn2 (?)07:14
QMarioOkay.07:14
raven3x7although why xchat would need qt...07:14
surfdueconfigure: error: Failed to find matching components of a complete07:14
surfdue                  Qt installation. Try using more options,07:14
surfdue                  see ./configure --help.07:14
Bjorn2I was07:14
surfduehmm07:14
Bjorn2building it07:14
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QMarioWhat does "foo" mean?07:14
raven3x7oh heh07:14
tencotest07:14
setitename07:14
desrtdoes anyone know what the story with /lib/linux-restricted-modules is?07:15
HappyFoolyou're supposed to replace it with whatever you need07:15
othernoobfoo is a secret code QMario :p07:15
HappyFoolsurfdue: you installed the dev library ?07:15
tennlaw207hello nalioth are you there07:15
Spudchatstill no luck :(07:15
surfdueyes07:15
setiteyea foo is the variable that you put your name or whatever in07:15
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QMario!foo07:15
ubotubaz07:15
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desrt!foo07:15
hybrid_gothlol07:15
setitelittle bunny foo foo07:15
raven3x7surfdue what are you compi;ing?07:15
hybrid_goth!foo foo07:15
ubotuhybrid_goth: I haven't a clue07:15
surfduetrying tooo07:15
surfduelol07:15
HappyFoolsurfdue: hmm. can you place the output of './configure' on the pastebin ?07:15
QMario The Muppets. 07:15
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setitesomebody slap me07:16
setitei returned to the dark side07:16
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Spudchatwhere do things i install with stnaptic go?07:16
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setitei wiped my drive.. adn reinstalled windoze07:16
surfduehttp://pastebin.com/34169107:16
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kirtisSpudchat, all over the place.07:16
Spudchateheh07:16
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Spudchathow bout eggdrop?07:16
HappyFoolsurfdue: is there an URL for this software?07:17
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QMarioMmmm.07:17
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Spudchathow would i search for it?07:17
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Spudchatsorry im still adjusting to linux from windows07:17
HappyFool!repos07:17
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96907:17
setitebut yea...replace foo with your name or whatever you would put there07:17
surfduehttp://freshmeat.net/projects/alias/07:18
kirtisSpudchat, find /usr -name eggdrop maybe?07:18
setiteand its not ubuntus fault i quit linux07:18
setiteits cedega's07:18
hybrid_gothlol07:18
HappyFoolSpudchat: read those links; add the repositories, and then search for eggdrop again.07:18
Spudchati did add the repos07:18
kirtisSpudchat, Actually the easy way is to look at the contents of the eggdrop package to see what it installed, i'm trying to find the option07:18
hybrid_gothsetite: life is easier if you use the alternatives07:18
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setiteit was too bad... i would click an attack.. and it would take between 2 and 10 damn seconds to actually register the click07:18
tencosetite: who is cedega?07:18
topyliheh07:19
setite!cedega07:19
ubotucedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega07:19
Spudchatand kirtis it said usr is a directory07:19
HappyFoolsurfdue: i think the configure script may be buggy -- line 131 looks a bit suspicious07:19
jordan_they make a wine distro with a config tool07:19
surfduek07:19
kirtisSpudchat, dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/name_of_deb.deb will show you the contents07:19
hybrid_gothtenco: emulation proggy07:19
setitecedega is WineX project to play win games on linux07:19
tencoand?07:19
setiteit sucks07:19
tencoand? :)07:19
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hybrid_gothlol07:19
Spudchatim sorry i dont think i understand that :(07:19
paganiniFor the amount of time necessary to mess with cedega (and the fact that you have to pay for it unless you *really* want to mess with it yourself) it's cheaper just to have a second computer running XP07:19
topylixgalaga works very well natively07:20
setiteand then?07:20
hybrid_gothUT is native to linux07:20
paganiniUT obviously rocks.07:20
setitethats one game07:20
tencowhy do you need an emulator?07:20
setiteand then there is like another07:20
setitetenco are you serious?07:20
paganiniDoom3 is too, isn't it?07:20
tencosetite: yes07:20
setiteyea both games i dotn play07:20
spolahe tends to be serious07:20
hybrid_gothpaganini: i think do07:20
hybrid_goth**so07:20
kirtisSpudchat, just run that command in a terminal, it'll show you what the package installs.  Replace name_of_deb.deb with the actual name.07:20
paganiniBut, say, if you want Shogun: Total War, you in trouble.07:21
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setitetenco i own games... that i bought so i could play them... under linux they either dont play at all or play so poorly that they might as well be unplayable07:21
jordan_what were you trying to play?07:21
tencosetite: ah, ok. i used to play games. but i gave it up. too expensive.07:21
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kirtisThat's what a ps2 is for, IMO.07:21
Klementasit seems that Ubuntu doesn't update software, except for security/bugfixes, until the next release, or is there some way to get newer versions ?07:22
HappyFoolSpudchat: if your repositories are setup, you should be able to find 'eggdrop' in synaptic07:22
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reikiSpamassassin question: using debug I'm being told spamassassin can't find Net/DNS.pm.  How do I manually dearch my system for that file?07:22
topylikirtis: and windows :)07:22
setitenah... consoles are not nearly as good as a pc07:22
hybrid_gothKlementas: backports07:22
hybrid_goth!backports07:22
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section07:22
setiteselection or quality07:22
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spuhohello. my ubuntu doesn't recognize that I have a blank CD in my drive when I'm trying to burn..what's the problem?07:22
HappyFoolsurfdue: sorry, i'm not sure how to fix your problem07:22
Spudchatfound him!!!!07:22
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surfduek07:22
Klementashmmmm, so I need to add a line to my sources.list then07:22
surfduedoes anyone know a good text to speech07:23
surfdueapp07:23
Spudchati did find him in synaptic but now i need to ./configure07:23
HappyFoolSpudchat: no07:23
Spudchatand he claims i have no tcl07:23
hybrid_gothsurfdue: flite07:23
HappyFoolSpudchat: the whole point of using synaptic is that you don't have to compile07:23
spuhoI tried burning with nautilus and burn and they both refuse to believe I have a blank cd in the drive07:23
HappyFoolSpudchat: if you installed with synaptic, you have eggdrop compiled and ready to run07:23
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Spudchatso all i have to do is edit the config and run eggdrop with that config?07:23
HappyFoolSpudchat: i presume so; i have never used eggdrop07:23
hybrid_gothspuho: ya sure it is blank?07:23
Spudchatok thanks07:23
Spudchatill give it a shot07:23
spuhohybrid_goth: yea07:24
hybrid_gothspuho: is the burner se to look at the drive?07:24
tencosetite: i bought me a physics textbook for the price of two games (~70) -> >1300 pages and 3,3 kg of dead tree! :)07:24
tencoinstead*07:24
paganiniHeheh07:24
maximausSitting here waiting for Feather Linux to fsck my borked Warty...Upgrade to Hoary or Breezy's last candidate?07:24
hybrid_gothtenco: lol07:24
spuhohybrid_goth: se? what do you mean?07:24
paganiniTenco, you ever see the THomas Finney calc book?07:24
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paganiniTWO ENTIRE TREES!07:25
hybrid_gothmaximaus: hoary07:25
tencopaganini: ugh o_O07:25
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hybrid_gothspuho: make sure nautilus is looking at the drive with the blank cd07:25
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maximaushybrid_goth:  Yeah--to be honest I'm still happy with Warty, installed it in December. :P07:25
raven3x7surfdue i believe lingoteach comes with one(?) and theres an ubuntu package for it07:25
hybrid_gothmaximaus: yea hoary is nice though07:26
tencopaganini: if i cobmine my pysics textbook, my bronstein, my stcker and my Oxford AL i should also come near to this %-)07:26
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tencos/cobmine/combine/07:26
spuhohybrid_goth: I only have one drive and it recognizes it's a CD burning drive07:26
maximausOne last question: possible to replace Xorg with Xfree in Hoary (I've got the dreaded i810)07:26
kirtismaximaus, yup, you'd only have xfree if you did an upgrade.07:26
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paganiniI cleaned my room recently, and found a bunch of old stuff from when I was in school.07:27
reikithere's a boatload of people in #spamassassin but you could hear a pin drop in there. :)07:27
paganiniLike, entire linux manuals that I'd printed out.07:27
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maximauskirtis: I'm a bit confused, I thought Hoary came with Xorg by default?07:27
paganiniThe Art of Assembler, frex, filled two binders.07:27
HappyFoolreiki: their filters are obviously overefficient07:27
hybrid_gothspuho: ok are you trying to burn and it gives you an error about not seeing it or about not being blank?07:27
kirtismaximaus, It does, but, IIRC if you upgrade it stays with xfree.07:27
tencoreiki: like in #netbsd most of the time? :)07:27
hybrid_gothpaganini: wow07:27
reikiHappyFool: indeed. :)07:27
paganiniI had like 3 reams of paper. My trash bag weighed like 50 pounds.07:27
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kirtismaximaus, So it's easier to just install fresh07:27
maximauskirtis, I'm doing a fresh install due to my HDD.07:28
spuhohybrid_goth: it says "please enter a blank disk"07:28
spolawhy was ubuntu based on debian?07:28
hybrid_gothpaganini: i would have taken that book07:28
dubniumis it possible to upgrade to the amd64 platform if i installed the i386?07:28
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hybrid_gothspuho: hmm. well idk from here sorry07:28
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bender_sup07:28
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maximauskirtis: do I look for xfree in synaptic after install?07:28
kirtisdubnium, I'd have to say no.07:28
spuhohybrid_goth: ok well07:28
spolanuffin, just chillin07:28
spuhoi must suffer then07:28
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hybrid_gothb3nd3r is l33t07:28
tencopaganini: entire linux manuals? but you have a monitor attached to your computer, right? ;-)07:28
reikiI'm so close to having this working CORRECTLY. I have Spamassassin catching spam in Evolution simply by adding a filter that pipes to spamassassin. But it's ignoring whitelist_from and it's not tagging the subject line.07:28
kirtismaximaus, No, you don't have to do anything.  You'll already have xorg after installing hoary.07:28
Xenguyspola: freedom and technical excellence07:28
mjrdubnium, not really, reainstall over it. You can retain old data if you do it by hand.07:28
spuhothanks anyway07:28
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hybrid_gothspuho: try an external drive07:28
b3nd3r\/3rY leet07:28
hybrid_gothlol07:29
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spuhohybrid_goth: please elaborate07:29
b3nd3rso ya07:29
andreihello. i am trying to set the font encoding for totem-xine but no luck. does anyone know how to do that ? thanks07:29
b3nd3rim bord07:29
maximauskirtis: LOL, thing is that I don't want Xorg as it doesn't offer acceleration for my onboard vid card. Not a huge deal, but wondering if I could *downgrade* to Xfree like in Warty. :P07:29
HappyFoolmaximaus: there's an xserver-xfree86 package in universe07:29
paganinitenco: Yeah, two of them now in fact. But like, when you most need manuals is when you can't read online.07:29
hybrid_gothspuho: i would try connecting an external burner and try to burn using that drive.07:29
paganiniLike, when the kernel won't boot, say.07:29
paganini:)07:30
maximausHappyFool: Cool! :D07:30
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HappyFoolmaximaus: version 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu2607:30
pudlandany help on scanner drivers??07:30
b3nd3rany one using Ubuntu 64?07:30
kirtismaximaus, oooooh.  Probably.. i think it's still there.07:30
spuhohybrid_goth:ok, I'll see what I can do, thanks07:30
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mjrb3nd3r, yes07:30
reikianyone good with spamassassin? I'm close to having a good spam tagging tool here... just a couple minor things :)07:30
hybrid_gothspuho: good luck07:30
Scrawny1hey guy just a real quick question for ya's :)07:30
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b3nd3rmjr is it noticibly faster?07:30
HappyFoolmaximaus: not sure if anyone uses it; maybe you should ask around a bit more07:30
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Scrawny1how do I upgrade xchat to 2.4.4?07:30
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reikiwhat's the command line entry to search for a file anywhere in my filesystem?07:31
HappyFoolmaximaus: not that i'd know ;) but i think most ppl on hoary use xorg07:31
maximausThanks all, I'm assuming I'll have to edit some text too, but as long as Xfree is available in Synaptic, I'll give it a shot. :D07:31
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Xenguyreiki: just ask07:31
hybrid_gothScrawny1: backports07:31
hybrid_goth!backports07:31
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section07:31
paganiniIf, between now and then, someone discovers some miraculous way to get Ubuntu to install on that Compaq Presario, drop me a PM07:31
seliniumSeveas: worked out the problem. I had maxed out my HD so it couldn't rewrite the Xauthority file.07:31
reikiI'm so close to having this working CORRECTLY. I have Spamassassin catching spam in Evolution simply by adding a filter that pipes to spamassassin. But it's ignoring whitelist_from and it's not tagging the subject line.07:31
apokryphosreiki: easy way: locate (you'll need to have updatedb before). Other way: find / | grep {somefile}07:31
b3nd3rpaganini ...07:31
Xenguyreiki: 'find' or 'locate'07:31
mjrb3nd3r, depends what you mean by "noticably"07:31
b3nd3rpaganini im running a Compaq Presario 2100 laptop... perfectly fine.07:31
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Xenguyreiki: 'locate' requires you to run 'sudo updatedb' first07:32
Scrawny1ok whats the website to get all the repsositories?07:32
b3nd3rmjr well ive never ran 64 so when i get my new lappy in im wanding if its gonna be a lot faster07:32
mjrb3nd3r, your browser probably won't be noticably altered, but your long encoding jobs will07:32
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b3nd3rhmm ok07:32
b3nd3rhow about X and shit.. still the same07:33
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b3nd3r?07:33
paganinib3nd3r, it's with this monterboard:07:33
paganinihttp://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&lang=en&cc=us&product=403786&dlc=en&docname=c0006324407:33
glickhttp://www.theinquirer.net/?article=2552907:33
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glicki dont get what thats about07:33
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apokryphosmuch, much faster, yes.07:33
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mjrb3nd3r, basically everything where the CPU is the bottleneck will improve07:33
mjrbut the UI is generally not one of these things07:33
glicklinus asking for license fees to use the linux name?07:33
b3nd3rhmm good point07:33
reikiok ... sudo locate DNS.pm found nothing. This appears to be a perl module? And Spamassassin is looking for it07:33
Xenguyglick: yeah, I found that weird also07:34
b3nd3rmjr what are you specs?07:34
Xenguyreiki: did you install from package or source?07:34
kirtisreiki, apt-get install libnet-dns-perl?07:34
mjrwhy does it matter?07:34
b3nd3rjust wonderin07:34
reikiXenguy: I installed using apt-get install07:34
Flying-Penguindoes anyone know how to open firestarter?07:34
rmflaggI have a question about gdm under Hoary.  About a week ago, my default session changed from Fluxbox to Gnome AND it no longer asks if I want to change my default session setting.  Any idea what could have happened?07:34
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Flying-PenguinI am trying to edit my firewall07:35
reikikirtis: I could try that... :)07:35
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Xenguyreiki: what kirtis said07:35
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Scrawny1!bucksport help07:36
ubotuScrawny1: I give up, what is it?07:36
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reikiXenguy: ok installed that... gonna run spamassassin through debug again and see if that fixed anything...07:36
boogeris there a way to find out the speed of a dvd -rw drive??07:36
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b3nd3rmjr what are your specs? laptop or desktop?07:36
Flying-Penguinwhat program would I run to mess with my firewall?07:36
HappyFoolfirestarter07:36
Scrawny1where can I get new bucksports?07:37
HappyFoolwhat's a bucksport ?07:37
apokryphosbackport, I presume07:37
apokryphos!sources07:37
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96907:37
Scrawny1thank- you :)07:37
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b3nd3rOMFG that was goooood07:38
b3nd3rIce Cold PEPSI in the morning07:38
b3nd3r:)07:38
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apokryphosany drink but milk in the morning is evil07:38
b3nd3rlol07:38
wsmithIn which channel would I find experts in X (especially MergedFB problems)?07:39
b3nd3rpepsi is like the oposite of milk.. it does a body bad.. and destroys your bones lol07:39
rmflaggIs anyone out there well steeped in GDM settings?07:39
b3nd3rwsmith whats the issue07:39
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kirtisbooger, lshal|grep read_speed ? maybe07:39
wsmithb3nd3r, whenever I go into an opengl app, one of my viewports resets to offset 0,007:39
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reikiXenguy and kirtis: ok that fixed the complaint in debug mode. Now I get absolutely no errors, and I can see it's looking in the right places for conf files, but it's still not modifying teh subject line, using whitelist_from, or even adding X-Spam headers. It's not modifying the headers at all07:40
b3nd3roffset 0,0 meaning??? it goes blank?07:40
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wsmithno, it goes to the same viewport as the other one (it becomes a clone of sorts)07:40
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b3nd3rah07:40
b3nd3rhmm07:40
wsmithBut the mouse cursor spans the two. Really confusing07:40
b3nd3rdamn that is wierd07:41
b3nd3ri never did think about opengl/d3d with more than one screen.. i just had 4 monitors for my 2d destkop on kde07:41
b3nd3rwhat card07:41
wsmithel cheapo radeon 700007:41
b3nd3rpffft07:41
b3nd3rgood luck07:41
Xenguyreiki: It was too long ago for me to be of further help.  I know that using SA's bayesian filters with large portions of sample spam and ham dramatically increased the effectiveness of SA for me tho07:42
Xenguyreiki: i.e. 'sa-learn'07:42
b3nd3rthose ATI's are a joke.. i could write better drivers for those cards than ATI and i failed algebra 407:42
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rmflaggRats...can anyone see this message?07:42
Xenguyrmflagg: yes07:42
b3nd3ryes07:42
b3nd3rwe so should have said no07:42
wsmithb3nd3r, I'm using radeon (not the proprietary ati drivers)07:42
b3nd3rhmm07:43
reikiXenguy: oh it's WORKING as far as catching spam. It's even sorting it into a Spam folder I created. It's just ignoring the local.cf and user_prefs files as far as whitelisting and changing the header07:43
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rmflaggI have a question about gdm under Hoary.  About a week ago, my default session changed from Fluxbox to Gnome AND it no longer asks if I want to change my default session setting.  Any idea what could have happened?07:43
wsmithI get dri, and it's pretty zippy, but goes nuts in ogl07:43
Xenguyreiki: you'll get there - good luck :-)07:43
b3nd3rrmflagg not sure why that happend but if you want it back i can show you how...07:43
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rmflaggThat would be of great help!07:43
b3nd3rwsmith man i have no idea...07:43
reikiXenguy: thanks :)  at least teh DNS thing is fixed... now to get it tagging.....07:43
b3nd3rrmflagg so you want fluxbox back?07:44
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wsmithbrb. randomly changing xorg.conf values...07:44
Scrawny1thats not what I was looking for07:44
rmflaggFluxbox is there....It's just that the settings in GDM no longer recognize the "Last" setting or the "Default" setting.  I just always go to Gnome no matter what.07:44
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=== b3nd3r paganini i have Gaim also.. just msg JackSprrow.... or give me your ICQ number
b3nd3rrmflagg i can show you have to get fluxbox working again .......... if thats what you mean... give me a few though07:46
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b3nd3rwhere the hell is xinitrc located for user$07:46
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rmflaggOk07:46
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wsmithwoot07:47
Scrawny1I'm only going to ask this once more Where do you find extra backsports, besides the one I already have07:47
b3nd3rwsmith get it?!?07:47
HappyFool!hoary-extras07:47
ubotu[hoary-extras]  see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:47
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wsmithyessa. "Too Much Configuration" problem07:47
LinuxJonesb3nd3r, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc07:47
HappyFoolScrawny1: you can try those too, though they're not always recommended07:47
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b3nd3rLinuxJones im looking for where you set the gnome-session options07:48
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b3nd3rwsmith fuck ya man good job07:48
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Scrawny1lol al I want to do is upgrade x-chat to 2.4.4 LOL07:48
Ng2.4.4 is in backports afair07:48
kemikScrawny1:  google07:49
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Ngkemik: he doesn't need google, he needs the backports repository :)07:49
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volatile_backports repository is at www.ubuntulinux.com07:49
kemikNg:  well, he should be able to find the URL with google.. he knows what he's looking for so he's just lazy07:49
volatile_just search "mplayer" it will give you the backport, REMEMBER TO "CHECK MARK" THE MULTIVERSE ETC... UNDER REPOSITORIES MENU07:50
Flying-Penguinanyone here ever herd of firestarter?07:51
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rmflaggI run Firestarter...07:51
XTERMYes...Firestarter was a bad movie about a piro kid07:51
Flying-Penguindoes firestarter config the ubuntu?07:51
HappyFool!info firestarter07:52
ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2348 kB07:52
LinuxJonesb3nd3r, I am not sure where it's set used to be in the users home dir07:52
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rmflagg!info transcode07:52
Flying-Penguingood job HappyFool thank you07:52
spolafirestarter was one of the best singles on the 1995 podigy album "Music for the jilted genration"07:52
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ninjafishspola, firestarter was on fat of the land07:52
rmflaggHas anyone gotten Transcode to run on Hoary?07:53
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spolareally?07:53
seoleda#list07:53
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Jazy84anyon ehave an luck getting a SMC2662 or a Belkin FD5060 to work in linux? from what i understand they use the atmel chipset. they are 802.11b wifi cards07:53
spolaoh yeah i was talking about speedway, sorry :p07:53
Scrawny1Kemik I already did google, I'm so fucking sick of ppl saying google when I've already fucking done it07:53
Jazy84lol Scrawny107:54
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Scrawny1why the helll do you think I'm here In a Ubuntu help rooom?07:54
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volatile_can someone set me up with a bittorrent community?07:55
volatile_I'm having issues finding one through google etc...07:55
XenguyScrawny1: to be /ignored ?07:55
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thechitowncubsswww.legaltorrents.com07:55
volatile_k07:55
spolavolatile_, the pirate bay !!07:55
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Jazy84arr07:55
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absenthI'm currently using Hoary 32Bit with an nVidia graphics card. (fresh install)  Can someone point me in the direction of a how-to for Accellerated Graphics AND dual head please?07:55
spola(pirate bay is illegal depending on your location)07:55
volatile_what's the "pirate bay?"07:55
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kemikspola:  nah.. it's not.. it's illegal to download copyrighted material though07:56
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kemikthe site itself is not illegal ;)07:56
filip_i cant install valknut, i have an file called valknut.deb in /home/filip/Desktop/valknut.deb then this command should install it:07:56
filip_sudo apt-get install /home/filip/Desktop/valknut.deb07:56
tawhello :-)07:56
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filip_does i have wrong?07:56
kemikfilip_:  dpkg -i file.deb07:56
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rmflaggWhaaah!  I just need to change settings in GDM, but I don't know what to change!07:56
kemikfilip_:  dpkg installs .deb packages07:56
kemik!dpkg07:57
ubotudpkg is, like, totally, the Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb07:57
ninjafishscawnyl, I was in #linux the other day, i asked if anyone knew an MP3 player that would mount on linux as a Mass Storage Device. I was told to RTFM, google it etc. When I commented that I do not have all the manuals and manufactures tend to always say XP only I was muted07:57
b3nd3rrmflagg one sec07:57
filip_kemik, okej when does i use apt-get install then?07:57
Scrawny1like I realy care if you ppl /ignore me I just thought maybe I can get help w/ this operating system w/o ppl saying to google when I've already it07:57
kemikfilip_:  when you install stuff from the depositories07:57
filip_kemik, okej07:57
boogerhow can i find the max write speed for a dvd drive07:57
kemikrepositories even07:57
spoladon't google, yahoo!07:58
kemik!tell Scrawny1 about repositories07:58
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kemik!tell Scrawny1 backports07:58
spolagoogle is *evul*07:58
kemik!tell Scrawny1 hoary-extras07:58
kemikthere you go Scrawny107:58
wsmithhmm. are there any command line flags to send to an sdl app to tell it which video mode to use (like all xlib apps use -geometry)07:58
othernoobwhy does * not work when there are numbers involved?07:58
Scrawny1theres a command I for get what it is that starts w/ echo that forces updates07:59
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absenthassuming I install the nvidia driver via apt-get, how do I get dual head up and running?07:59
Scrawny1er sorry upgrades07:59
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blockhead!tell blockhead backports08:00
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boogerhow can i find the max write speed for a dvd drive08:01
snippyhey there08:01
snippycan someone help me ?08:01
snippy/bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/src': File exists08:01
snippy/bin/ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/src/linux' to `': No such file or directory08:01
snippyCan't find the kernel sources. Please, install them and run this program.08:01
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snippyI installed the kernel sources08:01
snippybut usr/src/linux/ does not exist08:01
Myrttinote for those who tried to help me earlier with my usb memory that didn't work. It didn't mount on even Windows and I went to the store I bought it from and got one twice as big in return.08:01
Scrawny1thanks for the lack of help I'll remember this when my friends want to d/l Ubuntu08:01
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MyrttiScrawny1: what was the prob...08:02
Myrttiokkkk08:02
filip_kemik, i dont get it work should it be like this sudo dpgk -i /home/filip/Desktop/valknut.deb ?08:02
aruwhats USB memory?08:02
Myrttisnippy: try #flood next time08:02
boogerhow can i find the max write speed for a dvd drive08:02
Myrttiaru: usb flash memory08:02
booger???08:02
aruoh08:02
aruI was thinking USB ram... wondering why I hadn't heard of this :)08:02
snippyMyrtti thanks for the tip :) oh my.. IT WORKED!! :D08:03
snippythanks thanks08:03
othernoobbooger: manufacturers site?08:03
b3nd3rdamn08:03
Myrttiaru: a Creative Muvo mp3-player/flash memory in particular08:03
b3nd3ri cant find that shit anywhere08:03
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boogeri dont even know the manufacture08:03
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Myrttiit got crazy and said it had only 187M of free space when it should've had 256. I formatted it in Linux (apparently the wrong way) and broke it for good.08:04
wsmithbooger: find the part number on the bottom of the drive and google for it. works for me about 50% of the time08:04
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boogernever mind I found out08:04
snippyhow can I create a link to /usr/src/linux/ ?08:05
wsmith... or stick some media in there and use speed=90000 to dvdrecord08:05
dalamarln -s08:05
barongasI just installed my first ubuntu-dist, and it didn't ask me to supply a root password. How do I change it?08:05
JazyPPCln -s08:05
rmflaggb3nd3r which shit is that?08:05
dalamarbarongas, sudo passwd root08:05
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dalamarthough you'll rarely use it with ubuntu08:05
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=== Paganini uses the root password all the time.
Myrttibarongas: you don't use root password08:06
PaganiniYou can't login as root by default, but all the sysadmin stuff is protected by it, also by default.08:06
barongasdalamar: It asks me to supply the root password when typing it in.08:06
Myrttiyou do it thru sudo08:06
JazyPPCanyone ever use an atmel based wifi chip and got it to work?08:06
snippyhow can I create a link to /usr/src/linux/ ?08:06
barongasDon't I need root for apt etc...08:06
PaganiniYou have to enter it to use Synaptic, frex.08:06
Myrttibarongas: sudo apt08:06
filip_how does i install my .deb file that is placed in /home/filip/Desktop/valknut.deb ?08:06
dalamaryou use sudo for apt etc, which uses your main user passwd08:07
Myrttibarongas: use your own password08:07
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dalamarso 'sudo passwd root' you actually have to put in your user pw before you can actually change the root pw08:07
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barongasThanks08:08
Myrttiindeed08:08
snippyanyone? <.<08:08
b3nd3rPaganini ... back?08:08
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PaganiniYep08:08
UmmmmmI have a question: WHY?!08:08
PaganiniI sent you a PM08:08
b3nd3rneet08:08
Myrttisnippy: ln -s08:08
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Myrttisnippy: man ln08:08
b3nd3r?08:08
stretched_lobeshello08:08
wsmithsnippy: ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source<tab> /usr/src/linux08:08
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b3nd3rya i was lookin at that shit08:08
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stretched_lobesI have a quick question08:08
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snippythanks mates08:08
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wsmithsnippy: followed by ln -s /usr/src/linux /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build08:08
stretched_lobesI have an Irock mp3 player08:09
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ninjafishyes08:09
absenth39217 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7843.400 FPS.......  Nice.08:09
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stretched_lobesis there any way to upload my mp3's to the irock08:09
wsmith*sniff* I finally get MergedFB running for dual-headed accelerated goodness, and all the damn games have 4:3 aspect locked in!08:09
umberleighwhere does ubuntu keep it's grub.conf file? i can't seem to find it08:09
stretched_lobesI am trying to go totally without windoze08:09
snippywtf, I cant do a tab in terminal08:10
wsmithumberleigh, /boot/grub/menu.lst08:10
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b3nd3ronlything i could think of is to nigger rig the shit to boot08:10
ninjafishstretched_lobes, how does the player mount in XP?08:10
Bjorn2where can I look if my 3d card acc is working ?08:10
ninjafishis it a usb disk08:10
Bjorn2acceleration08:10
stretched_lobesit had software that i downloaded from irock08:10
wsmithBjorn2, type glxinfo. the third or so line should say "Direct Rendering... YES"08:10
stretched_lobesconnects through usb08:10
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othernoobmmh, why does * not work when there are numbers involved? for example lame -h -b 192 *.wav *.mp3 won't work (the wavs are 01, 02, 03...)08:11
umberleighahh. that'd explain why find /etc/ -name grub.conf && find /boot/ -name grub.conf didn't turn anything up08:11
Bjorn2yay08:11
Bjorn2its working08:11
Bjorn2:D08:11
wsmithothernoob, the shell expands those...08:11
ninjafishstretched, what happens if you connect it to your pc when linux is running, does it appear on the desktop?08:11
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othernoobwsmith: meaning?08:11
b3nd3rman i need to sell my laptop!08:11
Bjorn2What "free" opengl shooters are there wsmith  :D?08:11
filip_how does i install .deb ?08:11
barongasis multiverse very unstable or more or less like debian unstable?08:11
wsmithothernoob, so you are saying lame -h -b 192 01.wav 02.wav 03.wav 04.wav 01.mp3 02.mp3 03.mp3 04.mp3 (assuming all those exist) and confuses the hell out of lame08:11
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Xenguyfilip_: dpkg -i _____08:12
wsmithBjorn2, happypenguin.org08:12
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wsmithothernoob, with lame, specifying *.mp3 is unnecessary08:12
Arniabarongas: Multiverse contains all the 'non-free' packages08:12
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b3nd3rhey if any ones got linux windows unix mac os questions feel free to post them on www.usrlabs.com :)08:12
stretched_lobesI tried just plugging my usb cable in but it did not work08:12
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barongasArnia:Cool08:13
othernoobwsmith, it should do one after the other, as it would do, if the files weren't numbered08:13
wsmithstretched_lobes, type dmesg what are the last files08:13
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wsmithothernoob, are the files named 01.wav, 02.wav, etc?08:13
robertjheya all, anyone know of a gtk chess with multiplayer, computer oponents with different levels, and valid move highlighting?08:13
usrlabswww.usrlabs.com is a soon to be how to site if any one has newb or eleet questions needing be answered08:13
wsmithstretched_lobes, *lines*08:13
wsmithusrlabs, please. ... no more redirects...08:14
othernoobwsmith: not quite.. they are 01-title/of/the/song.wav ....and so on08:14
Xenguyusrlabs: you are about to be permanently /ignored08:14
usrlabswsmith ... what are yout alking08:14
stretched_lobesusb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 408:14
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wsmithusrlabs, there's like 6 redirects (just me whining)08:14
bender_wtf08:14
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bender_no there isnt.08:14
stretched_lobesdo you want all lines08:14
bender_its my damn site08:14
snippyoh my.. putting a link didnt worked08:14
spolayou're fit but you know it08:14
snippythe script wont find the kernel sources08:14
bender_it takes you to my forums08:14
wsmithothernoob, * does not recurse. in other words, *.wav matches files named <something>.wav in the *current* directory08:15
Xenguybye08:15
othernoobwsmith: fascinating08:15
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topyliothernoob: i just use the audio convert script for nautilus :)08:15
bender_wsmith did you get the X issue working?08:15
wsmithbender_, usrlabs.com => www.usrlabs.com => (missed one) => www.usrlabs.com/community/forum.php08:15
topyliothernoob: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/audio-convert/08:15
bender_wsmith yes.. thats my sight...08:15
othernoobwsmith: disregard the noob in my name. i'm quite aware of * not recursing08:15
stretched_lobesbefore the last line there was08:15
othernoobwsmith: i'm even quite aware of having to be in the correct directory08:15
stretched_lobes7 DPT=68 LEN=31408:16
stretched_lobesohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: wakeup08:16
othernoobwsmith: my quiestion is why * NEVER works when there are numbers in the files08:16
ninjafishstretched, it is possible that your mp3 player is not Mass Storage Device compatible. if this is the case then it will not mount on linux08:16
wsmithbender_, yup (finally). however any damn games lock in 4:3 ratio, making my dual headed goodness moot08:16
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GoClickI have a broken package and I don't know what to do08:16
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stretched_lobesshould i try one of the rio packages08:16
GoClickSynaptic won't fix it either08:16
bender_wsmith fuck that sucks08:16
othernoobtopyli: thanks, but i don't use gnome, thus no nautilus ;)08:16
stretched_lobesor mabye natilus08:16
MovieTrailerManHelp! I am having problems with America's Army!08:16
LinuxJonesGoClick, what are you trying to install ?08:16
topyliothernoob: ah :)08:16
ninjafishstretched wait a sec, what is the model of mp3 player you have again?08:17
filip_how can i add program in the menu ?08:17
wsmithothernoob, it does (http://warrenandrachel.com/othernoob.png)08:17
stretched_lobesirock 53008:17
ninjafishMOvieTrailerMan, so are a few countries08:17
spolaROFL08:17
GoClickI went to do my upgrades after installing Horay and it told me I had a broken package so I went and it's gnome extention for firefox but I can't remove it because it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and it won't repair it08:18
barongasfilip_: Try dragging and dropping icons08:18
MovieTrailerManI can't seem to get Amercia Army to work08:18
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MovieTrailerManer, American Army08:18
GoClickhoary rather08:18
Maunewb here08:18
LinuxJonesGoClick, it's ok to remove ubuntu-desktop08:18
^thehatsrule^americas army?08:18
spolai hate that game, it's like a commercial08:18
other|pissedwsmith: hui, it does work with ls. yay.. but it DOES NOT with lame and unrar for example08:18
Maudunno what i did08:18
rmflaggI may never get my GDM settings question answered...08:18
hardw1re(Kernel):[Linux 2.6.12-7-amd64-xeon x86_64] 08:18
GoClickHow will I reinstall it without a desktop?08:19
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Mauhow do i change my gdm ui languaga?08:19
Maulanguage?08:19
Bjorn2how do i open DVD's with VLc08:19
snippysomeone uses Paragon's NTFS for linux ?08:19
bender_ugh i cant wait for my new laptoP!!!!08:19
wsmithother|pissed, I assure you it does. * is expanded by the shell, not the application08:19
LinuxJonesGoClick, that's just a metapackage it will not uninstall your desktop08:19
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filip_barongas: ok i will try that soon08:19
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Bjorn2when i type dvd:///dev/hda it doesn't work08:19
bender_Bjorn2 ... set the prefs tard08:19
MauHA!08:19
MauHAHA!08:19
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Bjorn2bender_, i just started :o?08:19
wsmithother|pissed, remember, *.wav *.mp3 doesn't expand to file.wav file.mp308:20
Mau?-)08:20
Bjorn2take it easy :<08:20
snippyI just bought Paragon NTFS for linux.. cant install it oO08:20
stretched_lobesmovietrailer man  I followed install in wilki and it ran perfectly08:20
bender_Bjorn2 .... duh  try /media/dvd or /media/scsi008:20
bender_find where your drive is located first08:20
wsmithother|pissed, if file.mp3 doesn't exist08:20
GoClickLinuxJones I removed it now what do I do to get it back?08:20
other|pissedwsmith: are you saying that lame -h *.wav works?08:20
wsmithother|pissed, yes08:20
barongasI take it setting up my  ati graphic card is as much a hassle as it is for debian?08:20
LinuxJonesGoClick, you don't need to get it back08:21
GoClickWell what if08:21
LinuxJonesGoClick, your system will be exactly the same as it is now08:21
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GoClickWell what if I need to access gnomy stuff with firefox08:21
HappyFoolBjorn2: maybe just 'dvd://' ?08:21
GoClickThat said, how do I install thunderbird?08:21
stretched_lobeshere you go movietrailerman08:21
other|pissedwsmith: hui.. i do wonder why i am getting the "here's how you should use lame-syntax introduction + why don't you idiot try lame -? and so on" then?08:21
stretched_lobeshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy08:21
Bjorn2HappyFool, ill try it08:21
MovieTrailerManstretched_lobes, eh?08:22
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MovieTrailerManah08:22
wsmithother|pissed, -h means help08:22
surfduehow do i findout what is using my sound stuff08:22
MovieTrailerManthanks08:22
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snippyhow can I remove a link?08:22
stretched_lobesyes 1 9/16th in08:22
other|pissedwsmith: you have never used lame have you?08:22
wsmithother|pissed, may you want lame --preset=high08:22
LinuxJonesGoClick, apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird08:22
other|pissedwsmith: -h does not mean help08:22
HappyFoolsnippy: just 'rm' it08:22
wsmithother|pissed, sorry. was thinking something else. I'm a retard08:22
Bjorn2!backports08:22
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section08:22
MovieTrailerManWill it show me how to use American Army?08:22
Bjorn2it isn't working btw HappyFool08:22
Bjorn2maybe its the dvd08:22
hardw1rejust finished my upgrade to breezy08:22
stretched_lobesyou mean a walkthrough08:22
Bjorn2or region code08:22
hardw1re(IDE Interfaces):[nVidia Corporation CK8S Parallel ATA Controller (v2.5) (rev 162)] 08:23
GoClickLinuxJones is there a GUI for that? I can do that from the CLI but I doubt my boss will08:23
HappyFoolBjorn2: what error message do you get ? (don't paste here)08:23
wsmithother|pissed, ahh. lame only takes *one* file to encode at a time08:23
bender_sigh08:23
Bjorn2HappyFool, nothing08:23
Bjorn2it spins08:23
Bjorn2en then closes itself08:23
dalamarsynaptic will do it, just click search and type 'thunderbird'08:23
MovieTrailerManI want to control American Army08:23
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GoClickOh I found it I think08:23
wsmithother|pissed, find ./ -iname '*.wav' -exec lame -h \{\} \;08:23
HappyFoolBjorn2: unfortunately i don't have vlc.. let me see how big a download it is08:23
LinuxJonesGoClick, you can use synaptic to install it as well just search for mozilla-thunderbird then right click and hit install, then click the apply button08:24
wsmithother|pissed,  or for each in *.wav ; do lame -h $each ; done08:24
stretched_lobeshttp://www.americasarmy.com/support/gamemanual.php08:24
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Bjorn2www.videolan.org08:24
Bjorn2HappyFool,08:24
bender_i cant wait to play AA again08:24
HappyFoolBjorn2: i'd rather install from synaptic, thanks ;)08:24
bender_its been like 1.5 years since i have played it08:24
GoClickLinuxJones ok, I also need to get samba on this machine with a nice gui too, what gui should I use?08:25
other|pissedwsmith: it won't work because there are numbers in the filename.wav and thus i'll get the syntax-introduction again08:25
GrYpHoNAnyone here havingissues getting the broadcom 4306 working through ndiswrapper in Ubuntu?08:25
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bender_GrYpHoN is that a laptop chipset/08:25
GrYpHoNYes it is.  Laptop is HP Pavilion zv500008:25
rmflaggI have a question, folks.08:25
LinuxJonesGoClick, oh boy I have never used samba since I have no computers running anything but Linux08:25
bender_heh08:25
bender_:)08:25
stretched_lobesninja08:25
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bender_i just ordered the zv600008:25
wsmith!pastebbot08:26
ubotuwsmith: What?08:26
ninjafishstretched_lobes, sorry, I cannot find enough info on the irock to say how you could use it with linux, the software seems to be win or mac only08:26
wsmith!pastebot08:26
ubotuwsmith: What?08:26
bender_GrYpHoN give me one sec and ill get you the info :)08:26
wsmith!paste08:26
ubotuI guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:26
GrYpHoNIts a great laptop08:26
GrYpHoNpain to get the wireless working though08:26
ninjafishstretched_lobes, sorry, I cannot find enough info on the irock to say how you could use it with linux, the software seems to be win or mac only08:26
dalamarmany people have issues with broadcom and ndiswrapper08:26
lvraabbroadcom sucks08:26
dalamarregardless of distro08:26
dalamaryes it does ;)08:26
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wsmithother|pissed, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/144908:26
GrYpHoNThat figures.  lol08:26
LinuxJonesGoClick, there is webmin but I am not sure if it works as advertised in Ubuntu08:27
lvraablol08:27
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rmflaggWhat setting do I have to change for GDM to ask if I want to change my default setting?08:27
stretched_lobesok thanks I guess i really have to have windows after all too bad08:27
ninjafishI have managed to install my broardcom ndiswrapper with a HP zv5000 fine08:27
GoClickLinuxJones That's too bad, I'll have to try a few I guess, ok.08:27
GoClickNo SWAT is HORRIBLE08:27
GoClickI'd rather edit the conf file by hand08:28
GrYpHoNThe scan through the terminal finds the network etc, can't connect though.  Driving me CRAZY08:28
ninjafishI have missed a bit of the conversation so I will just catch up08:28
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bender_GrYpHoN http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_Linux_64bit_on_HP_Pavillon_zv6000_series_notebook#Wireless_Connection08:28
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bender_about 3/4 the way down08:28
barongasDoes Gtk install in some weird directory for ubuntu? Trying to compile a program and it can't find it08:28
stretched_lobesmy second uestion how do i make k3b appear in the gnome panel08:28
surfduei think my sound drivers are messed up08:28
GrYpHoNThanks bender!08:28
surfduewhen someone hears me on my sip phone08:28
surfdueit is CRAPPY08:28
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stretched_lobesi can start it from a shell08:28
bender_GrYpHoN it IS for the gentoo install.. but theres nothing diff about ndis wrapper though08:29
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ninjafishstretched lobes, I traded my old mp3 player for an iriver because it could not be used in linux08:29
jbullbarongas:  what's the program looking for?08:29
dalamareither that or buy a cheap ipod, they wer ine aswll08:30
stretched_lobesi tried smeg but k3b does not show08:30
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Spudchatdoes an xclef run in linux?08:30
stretched_lobesyes i was looking at the new rio08:30
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ninjafishfor an irock equivilent for linux look at the creative Muvos they mount as USB drives on the gnome desktop08:30
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wsmithbattle for wesnoth is my new favorite game for not being retarded and assuming 4:3 ratio08:30
barongasjbull checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.08:30
stretched_lobescool thanks08:30
ninjafishstretched lobes, do you have a laptop?08:31
ghostdogI am having problems with usb and firewire storage, for some reason it works randomly08:31
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bender_GrYpHoN work for ya?08:31
stretched_lobesno buying one soon on ebay08:31
CyberMadwhen i install from aptitude and search for new package tightvnc-server08:31
jbullbarongas:  you need the gtk+ dev package installed--do you have it?08:31
qtpican anyone tell me what this means?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/145008:31
GrYpHoNDuel boot.  Ill have to boot in to ubuntu to find out08:31
stretched_lobesfound some that work with ubuntu08:31
CyberMadthere is letter c in front of tightvnc-server package and i press + but didn't effect anything08:31
CyberMadi try install from debian package and there is an error too08:31
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barongasjbull: Yeah, noticed :)08:31
barongasjbull: Thanks though08:31
other|pissedwsmith: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/145108:31
ghostdogIf I boot with the memory stick it works08:32
stretched_lobesi have a real old sattelite08:32
CyberMadyudi@earth:~/Backup$ vncserver08:32
CyberMadCouldn't start Xvnc; trying default font path.08:32
CyberMadPlease set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.08:32
ninjafishstretched lobes, reason I ask is that I sometimes take my linux laptop to the PC store when buying some accesories to see if they work on linux08:32
bender_qtpi means the source file or sourceslist file has a bad line in it at line 28 or whatever08:32
CyberMadplease help me08:32
ghostdogif not, then nothing happens unless I restart hotplug08:32
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stretched_lobesno cd drive only uses backpack cd cannot find one to support it08:32
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qtpiline 28 says deb http://jrfonseca.dyndns.org/debian/ .08:32
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makhanif someone could help me, that'd be great, my sound doesn't work.08:33
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stretched_lobesyes that sounds good08:33
dalamartheres good info on the web about linux compatible mp3 players as well08:33
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wsmithother|pissed, it's not the numerals, it's the spaces08:33
stizonersomething has gone totally wrong, media:/ shows empty now, none of my partitions are showing, just blank08:33
wsmithother|pissed, for each in *.wav ; do lame -h "$each" ; done08:33
Rebsthe 5.04 starer guide is up to date right?08:34
makhanno, when I go to a webpage that has videos, I cannot hear anything.08:34
ninjafishgrython, if you have issues still I am happy to help as I have been though the same problems08:34
makhanhelp?08:34
makhananyone?08:34
wsmithmakhan, ps ax | grep esd08:34
snippyhow can I remove a directory?08:34
snippyor rename?08:34
wsmithmakhan, get anything?08:34
makhanwsmith, do I do that in terminal?08:34
wsmithsnippy, mv <dir>08:34
qtpiHow would I fix a sources.list file; I overwrote a few lines that were in there and this seems to be causing a problem when i try installing a codec08:34
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wsmithsnippy, rm -r <dir>08:34
wsmithmakhan, yes08:35
webbyhi08:35
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wsmithqtpi, did you get the sources.list from ubuntuguide.org08:35
Ngqtpi: remvoe the broken ones and re-add them08:35
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qtpiwsmith: i got it from an ubuntu forum08:35
jbullanyone running breezy have issues with fonts in firefox?08:35
mdzleonel: you need to modify the apt configuration to point to breezy, and then dist-upgrade.  I believe there's a howto in the wiki somewhere08:36
wsmithqtpi, If you are installing basic stuff from the universe, multiverse and backports, just grab a new copy from ubuntuguide.org08:36
stizonermedia:/ shows empty now, none of my partitions are showing, just blank, i cant get my files ! /me runs around scared08:36
leonelI was asking if there's any special thing to keep in mind08:36
leonelmdz, thanks08:36
wsmithmakhan, any luck?08:36
stretched_lobesthanks a lot for the help08:37
makhanwsmith, what i got from that was : 6736 ?     S    0:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeebs08:37
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makhanthat's the first line, anyways.08:37
qtpiwsmith: where exactly on that site is the file08:37
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qtpiahh i found it08:37
HappyFoolnobeeps, presumaby -- unless it's anti-bbc ;)08:37
Jhairshouldn't the realplayer installer be in multiverse at least?08:37
makhanthen another: 7113 pts/0       S+       0:00 grep esd08:37
makhanthat's it.08:37
wsmithmakhan, good. now, your media player is most likely using oss to try to get to the sound card (which esd has stolen)08:37
letschatthi everyone08:38
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wsmithmakhan, which plugin are you using to view movies mplayer?08:38
NgJhair: I think there is one, but it's for an old version of realplayer08:38
letschattmy ubuntu firefox loads really fast but the response of the application on opening new tabs, scrolling and page loading (back, forward) is SH*T. will anyone mind helping?08:38
makhanoh, it's not that, I still need to DL a plugin. I'm talking about regular files on the net, such as Homestarrunner.08:38
wsmithmakhan, ah08:39
letschatti need someone 's help in cutting the pork on my file system. my windows installation is about 1.8 gigs. The linux is 1.4 that's huge08:39
wsmithanyone know if ubuntu turns on alsa dmix by default?08:39
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ninjafishletschatt, thats tiny08:39
Ngletschatt: run synaptic, ask it to show you packages with installed status, then remove the ones you don't want, if any08:39
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JhairNg, yes I added multiverse to my apt sources (tried with different mirrors) and seems realplayer isn't there anymore...08:40
letschattNg.. did a lot of that. i think 1.4 gigs on linux is massive. In 2003 i was running woody with kde 2.2 on only 750 megs08:40
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stizonermedia:/      shows empty now, none of my partitions are showing, no floppy, no cd, nothing just blank, i cant get my files08:40
letschattnow i have gnome on 5.04 hoary. KDE blows goats now it's nothing but bloatware08:40
NgJhair: I see a package called realplayer in multiverse here08:41
Jhairubuntu has a page to search for package though and AFAIK realplay is still listed there08:41
letschatti wouldn't mind getting some help with my firefox app response times08:41
darkheartletschatt Some might say gnome is bloated too =)08:41
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tristanmikegood-day all08:41
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letschatthaha well in university while i was doing my CS degree i used ion.. best ever!08:41
martin-Need some help: got an ATI all in wonder with TV functionality. i downloaded tvtime but now i need to choose the device somehow. Anyone knows what to do?08:41
Ngletschatt: meh, it's only 1.4gb and you can cut it down to way less than that if you can be arsed, but what do you gain? ;)08:41
Ex-CyberI'm having trouble building a mips-elf targeted binutils 2.9.1... configure goes okay but when I run make I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1452 ... what's going on here?08:41
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letschattNg i think we can lay down the linux (faster) myth to waste now. why does linux boot slower, and loads apps slower with slower response times08:42
stizonerhiyah08:42
makhanwsmith, any other advice you could give me?08:42
ninjafishis the guy who was having broadcom troubles still here??08:42
JhairNg, are you using hoary? could you please show me the server you are using on your sources.list?08:42
wsmithmakhan, one sec...08:42
letschatti type ctrl ++ and firefox took 3 seconds to work its way08:42
HappyFoolstizoner: i don't have a 'media:/' -- i do have a 'computer:///' though (i presume this is in nautilus)08:42
Ngletschatt: I don't care for myths, I use Linux because it's better08:42
makhanok.08:42
HappyFool!repos08:42
ubotusomebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:42
letschattninjafish i was the guy with broadcom trouble08:42
letschattbut i fixed em now08:42
HappyFoolJhair: the second like ubotu posted has an examples sources.list08:42
NgJhair: yup, hoary. my sources.list is www.pointlessrubbish.net/sources.list08:43
Rebshow come flashplayer isn't found, tryna follow the starter guide , unless its out of date?08:43
ninjafishdid you chabge your nick?08:43
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letschattlinux is better because of its immense flexibility and its free but it lays waste to older machines like mine08:43
darkheartRebs You might need some repositories added.08:43
dalamaryou probably dont have the repo that flash is in08:43
Rebsim using the sample sources list from the guide08:43
GoClickIs there a way to move all of my Thunderbird 1.0.6 settings from my windows machine to my Linux machine?08:43
HappyFoolRebs: you can read the restricted-formats page on the wiki for installing flash (see ubotu below)08:43
letschattwindows 2000 runs faster on my computer and I KNOW FOR SURE i can get this sucker to run faster than windows i am just no an expert yet08:43
HappyFool!restricted08:43
uboturestricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:43
letschattGoclick there is08:44
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Ngletschatt: you can't compare a gnome release from 4 months ago with windows *2000*08:44
Ngletschatt: use xfce08:44
stizonerclick system icon, select storage media, and its empty, i cant get 2 any my partitions and get my files, nothing is listed in the window HappyFool08:44
leoneldist-upgrade in progress...08:44
Nganyway, I'm outta here08:44
JhairNg, thanks08:44
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letschattlook in your profile folder.. move all of your profile files to a drive letter and change the path names08:44
slywanting some help setting up net sharing on good ol ubuntu08:44
HappyFoolstizoner: 'system icon' ? where's that?08:44
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ninjafishlinux is better because there are less dependancies (view the processes running on XP to prove this).08:45
letschattNg: it's not just gnome buddy linux boots a lot slower too that hogplug BS takes 8-10 seconds to work08:45
GoClickletschatt is it aq pain in the bum?08:45
thesametdoes anyone else have strange window blinks in breezy?08:45
letschattaq?08:45
slyany takers :) ? ...... im connected to net via 1 port router.................. got another pc connected to me via eth1 . firestarter installed08:45
slyas far as ive got :)08:45
letschatti've used bum to turn off weird and silly daemons08:45
darkheartsly Why not connect both computers to the router?08:45
CyberMaddo you know where to find free proxy (8080) ?08:45
wsmithmakhan, Ok. the crux of the matter is that flash needs exclusive access to your sound card. esd already has exclusive access. neither like sharing08:46
makhanok, so how do I have both?08:46
sly* sly any takers :) ? ...... im connected to net via 1 port router * no hub and the router is downstairs with not enough cable when both pc's are in the loft08:46
makhanis it possible?08:46
martin-i have 2 /dev/video? devices, how can i see whichone is what?08:46
surfdueum08:46
surfduelinphone is outdated08:46
surfdueon your apt-get08:46
surfduewhat should i do?08:46
letschattso who here is running on a machine similar to mine (ATHLON 600 K7, 256MB, 60 + 17 GB, 802.11G, MATROX G450 32MB)08:47
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JoRockcan anyone recommend a good full site for my apt list08:47
JoRock?08:47
bender_sly what is the problem?08:47
GoClickletschatt how do I move my settings, especially account settings08:47
RadamanthysI need to mount my optical drives (cd and cd-rw)08:47
letschattJOROCK use synaptic to add sources08:47
wsmithmakhan, either you can turn off esd (you'll lose ubuntu gnome sounds) and restart mozilla, or I can go into an extremely involved process of getting alsa dmix working08:47
HappyFool!repos08:47
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:47
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surfduelinphone is outdated08:47
bender_JoRock an awsome site is google.com08:47
surfduewhat do i do08:47
ninjafishletschatt, you have a zv5000 yes? have you got the scrollbar on the touchpad working?08:47
JoRocklol thanks bender_08:47
HappyFoolJoRock: the recond link ubotu posts has a complete /etc/apt/sources.list; or you can read the first one for more information08:47
makhanright, thanks.08:48
stizonerok whatever weird powers that fixed that... thanks, i was just sitting here all sudden here my floppy drive access and my cdrom spin and BAM my paritions show up :D08:48
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makhanwhat's a easy way of turning off esd?08:48
letschattno, no zv500008:48
bender_UGH!!!!08:48
letschatti am on a desktop08:48
RadamanthysHelp me08:48
bender_i cant wait to get my HP ZV6000!!!08:48
Ex-Cybermakhan: at prompt: killall esd08:48
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letschattput in a disk radamanthys08:48
makhanand, after that, will DVD movies be able to play sound, now that esd is dead?08:48
letschattthen try /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd08:48
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dalamarthats what they consider stable in the repo, if you want the newest linphone out you'll have to look for a .deb on the web and install it yourself08:48
surfdue!!!bug!!!report!!! lin phone version is outdated.08:48
ubotuthat's too long, surfdue08:48
surfdueby 2 years08:48
ninjafishletschatt, ok.  I am getting confused now. there was someone with a zv5000 earlier nm08:49
JohnHello, I have a problem with wirelles card in my laptop. The drivers is installed but I don't recieve or send anything08:49
bender_why dont you just "dmesg | more" and seach where it initialized and placed the damn drive08:49
Ex-Cybermakhan: generally as long as some ill-behaved app such as flash player is hogging your soundcard nothing else will play sound08:49
letschattbut you could help me with something else :)08:49
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Radamanthysletschatt,  I can't configure this devices08:49
letschatti need a good website to optimize ubuntu so it runs on par with windows atleast08:49
makhanok.08:49
ohaydoes someone know how to configure services on ubuntu?08:49
makhanhm.08:49
bender_ohhhh hey!!!08:49
Gratohay what services?08:49
bender_woohoo im get to eat today!!!08:49
Revelation;P08:50
bender_*i08:50
ohayI mean graphically (like for dummies)08:50
bender_this prison sucks08:50
wsmithmakhan, I believe the problem stems from a holdover from debian. Dunno why everything hasn't been switched to use alsa or the aoss wrapper by default.08:50
HappyFool!bum08:50
ubotubum is, like, a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html08:50
stizonerim a dummie so i dont know08:50
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Revelation+bender_ agreed08:50
ninjafishletschatt, sorry I do not know of such a website08:50
Revelation:p08:50
bender_we only get basic 256k down... and a crap rental laptop.08:50
HappyFoolohay: bum might be what you want (see ubotu's post above)08:50
Revelation+why all talking like this ? ;>08:50
juanejis there anyway to reconfigure ubuntu?08:50
GoClickletschatt how can I move my Thunderbird 1.0.6 settings and accounts from my Windows machine to my Ubuntu machine?08:50
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Gratohay: what services?08:51
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bender_Revelation you in prison also?08:51
Webby`Hi, I'm having trouble starting up crossover. It just hangs and never starts up08:51
juanejIm getting a lot of errors with synaptic08:51
ninjafishjuanej, /etc08:51
Webby`I'm using Breezy08:51
Revelation-bender_: naah was released for some days ago ;)08:51
Webby`Could that be the problem?08:51
letschatt:( ubuntu is slower than win 2000 what a shame i still can't make the switch08:51
ohayI mean, somewhere I can click on a checkbox for every service. Like a runlevel editor08:51
bender_Revelation what were you in for08:51
ohayGrat: I want to run sshd08:51
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Revelation-bender_: some hacking :\ :p08:51
juanejmaybe deleting my account and creating a new one?08:51
bender_Revelation my ass08:52
HappyFooljuanej: what errors?08:52
ninjafishjuanej what errors?08:52
juanejUhmm08:52
Revelation-bender_: actually its real :p08:52
Webby`Can anyone see me????08:52
wsmithWebby`, no08:52
PaganiniNope.08:52
osfameronme neither08:52
PaganiniYou're invisible.08:52
Paganini;p08:52
Webby`ok08:52
Webby`lol08:52
juanejbroken packages08:52
ninjafishWebby I can hear you though08:52
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Revelation-;P08:52
wsmithohay, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start08:53
juanejE: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.08:53
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wsmithohay, but I've never used the gui thingy08:53
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juaneji want to start over08:53
bender_what did you get caught doing hacking wise Revelation08:53
wsmithWebby`, dunno if anyone here has that combination (breezy + crossover)08:53
HappyFooljuanej: hmm. that doesn't sound good08:53
ohaywsmith: the thing is that I'm kinda lazy, :P08:53
juanejHappyFool: how do i start over?08:53
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Webby`So I should use Hoary?08:54
juanejwithout reinstalling08:54
Cletushey, i just installed ubuntu and it's telling me that i need to insert the install cd when i try to install some packages via aptitude08:54
wsmithohay, on startup, sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults08:54
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wsmiths/on/for/08:54
Cletusthe cd isn't in my apt sources, why is it asking this?08:54
ohayso, is there a graphical runlevel editor or something?08:54
bender_Revelation your in germany.. they dont do that08:54
wsmithCletus, you probably need to apt-get update08:54
Cletusi've done that wsmith08:54
dalamaryeah the using the install cd bit i dont like at all, it only asks for it on some programs08:54
wsmithohay, I think ubuntuguide.org has something about that...08:54
juanejso?08:55
Cletusi've been using debian for a few years now and i've never had anything like this happen08:55
ninjafishCletus, look at the repositories list in sypnatic08:55
ninjafishis it there08:55
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HappyFooljuanej: maybe you can try 'sudo apt-get clean' at the command line08:55
samuyeah, that happened to me a few times as well08:55
HappyFooljuanej: i'm afraid i'm not familiar with that error08:55
ohayoh I forgot to say I'm using the default gnome and everything installation, not really tweaked or anything08:55
NodeHey - I just tried the Ubuntu "breezy" live CD and it hung when starting the hotplug subsystem.  Anybody else here using a Shuttle ST20G5 experience this ?08:55
Cletusit's in the repositories in synaptic, thanks ninjafish08:55
HappyFoolohay: did you see the link to bum ubotu posted? It sounds like that is what you want08:55
HappyFool!bum08:55
ubotu[bum]  a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html08:55
Cletusi don't use synaptic so i would have never checked there08:56
juanejwhat about reconfiguring ubuntu to the default config08:56
oonoonHi everybody ; Ive just switched on my computer and when i want to see a preview of a screensaver, it is extremely slow ; how can i find the thing that makes my computer so busy even though nothing has yet been done08:56
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ohayubotu: is this already installed with ubuntu?08:56
ubotuohay: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:56
dalamarits probably a GL screensaver and you dont have drivers installed for it08:56
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HappyFoolohay: ubotu is a bot; and the answer is no. Go to the URL08:56
juanejdamn, im gonna delete my account and create a new one08:56
wsmithoonoon, first, do Applications->System Tools->System Monitor08:56
bender_Revelation ....? still there :)08:57
wsmithohay, http://ubuntuguide.org/#permanentlydisableenableboot-upservices08:57
oonoonwsmith, yeah , did ti08:57
wsmithmm. got beat to that one08:57
ohaywsmith: ok I'll take a look. I forgot that I had downloaded the entire guide, hehe08:57
wsmithoonoon, anything hogging cpu?08:57
ninjafishjuanej that will not work08:57
juanejso what can i do?08:57
juaneji really dont want to reinstall08:58
HappyFooljuanej: did you try 'apt-get clean' ? you could also move the contents /var/cache/apt08:58
juanejdoesnt work08:58
ninjafishI am sorry I am not being helpfull but if there is a problem with any application it will cause problems for all users08:58
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ninjafishusually08:58
bender_Revelation :) give me an msg back sometime :)08:58
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oonoonwmith, that's weird, i've got some activity (max 30% CPU) ; when i start this screensaver preview it jumps to 100% and goes slow08:59
juaneji think im gonna have to reinstall :S08:59
Benixhi08:59
oonoonwsmith, that's weird, i've got some activity (max 30% CPU) ; when i start this screensaver preview it jumps to 100% and goes slow08:59
wsmithoonoon, you don't have gl acceleration enabled.08:59
bender_oonoon thats cuz you dont have gl accell on08:59
dalamaris it a gl screensaver? and do you have 3d drivers installed?08:59
bender_jeez08:59
bender_newbs08:59
wsmithoonoon, pop open a terminal and type glxinfo08:59
GoClickDNS on my ubuntu system seem messed up it takes maybe 20 seconds to resolve any host08:59
GoClickSome apps like xChat don't seem to be able to do it at all08:59
wsmithbender_, you *are* in the noob channel08:59
GoClickAnd then randomly they will09:00
ninjafishjuanej try a simple apt-get -update09:00
bender_wsmith i know i was just joking :)09:00
oonoonwsmith : yeah, done, but there's much stuff 'direct rendering : no' , thats what you expected ?09:00
stizoneryeah GoClick i noticed that and set it manually since i have a router that i allways connect same ip09:00
wsmithbender_, me too :)09:00
bender_this is the only server i can get on for some reason09:00
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wsmithoonoon, yes09:00
ninjafishthen try to remove all repositories and add them again09:00
oonoonwsmith : so, that's ok ?09:00
ninjafishand apt-get -update again09:00
wsmithoonoon, no, you don't have accelerated X. how familiar are you at mucking around in xorg.conf?09:00
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ninjafish(sorry apt-get -update after removing all reps)09:01
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llpamiesSomebody that are using breezy can tell me if totem-xine depends of libcairo1 ?09:01
juanejdamn, im gonna reinstall, thx anyway09:01
thechitowncubssis firefox going to start faster on breezy?09:02
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dubniumquestion, besides real player? which apps can play .ra/.ram?09:02
wsmiththechitowncubss, stupid cubs. anyways are you referring to a prelink or the whole ipv6 thing?09:02
oonoonwsmith : i've got some experience, spend some weeks to try to install my nvidia card (which, at the end, doesn't work yet :-))09:02
wsmithdubnium, helix player09:02
thechitowncubsswsmith, actually i'm referring to firefox's slow startup compared to windows09:02
HappyFooloonoon: the instructions on the wiki don't work for you?09:03
wsmithoonoon, you probably need the nvidia binary driver. check ubuntuguide.org09:03
HappyFool!nvidia09:03
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2909:03
thechitowncubss!nvidia09:03
thechitowncubsshey09:03
kyncanillpamies: you can see totem-xine dependencies here http://packages.ubuntu.com/09:03
dubniumwsmith, i thought helix could not stream?09:03
wsmith!cubs09:03
ubotuNo idea, wsmith09:03
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wsmithdubnium, I dunno. I have no experience09:03
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oonoonHappyFool, wsmith : tried with ubuntu package, and with the drivers on nvidia website, nothing worked, got the same blank screen and impossible to quit X, got the eternal blank screen09:04
thechitowncubss!cubs are the best team in the world09:04
ubotuokay, thechitowncubss09:04
thechitowncubss!cubs09:04
ubotucubs are the best team in the world09:04
wsmith!sox rule09:04
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, wsmith09:04
wsmith!sox09:04
ubotuwsmith: I haven't a clue09:04
wsmithstupid bot09:04
thechitowncubssthats what i thought09:04
HappyFooloonoon: hmm09:04
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HappyFooloonoon: you've looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages?09:04
wsmiththechitowncubss, obviously in chicago. which part?09:04
llpamieskyncani: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/gnome/totem-xine  What happen ??  Why libcairo is not avaiable ?? I has my system broken !09:04
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thechitowncubssNW suburbs09:05
GoClick2test09:05
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wsmithoonoon, my suggestion, live with it unless you have all weekend free to muck with it.09:05
oonoonHappyFool : tried, but i dont understand much in this area ; got to go, be back in2 hours09:05
oonoonwsmith : i came to the same conclusion :-)09:05
thechitowncubsswsmith, are you from chitown?09:06
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wsmiththechitowncubss, sw burbs09:06
thechitowncubssfigures09:06
wsmithlol09:06
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Bjorn`Foodis cedega free09:06
Bjorn`Food?09:06
wsmithBjorn`Food, kinda. once you pay for it, it is09:07
kyncanillpamies: what do you mean your system is broken ? if a package (like totem-xine) has unavailable dependencies (like libcairo1), then this package is simply not installed/upgraded, and nothing is broken09:07
wsmithBjorn`Food, but seriously, they keep a *really* old version free09:07
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Bjorn`Foodthis sucks =/09:07
wsmithBjorn`Food, it's only $15!09:07
Bjorn`FoodWell09:07
Webby`lol09:07
dalamaruse wine09:07
Bjorn`Foodi'm only 16 lol09:07
Ex-CyberBjorn`Food: yes and no... there is a "free" CVS repo that Transgaming has threatened to shut down if too many people use it, but generally you need to subscribe09:07
wsmithBjorn`Food, you have a mom, no?09:07
Bjorn`Food:)09:07
maximausbest place to grab a Ubuntu torrent?09:07
dalamarmow some lawns ;)09:08
wsmithrofl09:08
tristanmikeDoes anyone know "cdcat"?09:08
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Bjorn`Foodi can use the debian builds on ubuntu too ?09:08
letschattwould anyone help me with a very slow firefox response time on ubuntu?09:08
wsmithman, I *really* have to get some work done today. Hate to think I'm getting paid to IRC all day09:08
letschattBjorn`Food, don't that's what i've heard09:09
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wsmithletschatt, how so?09:09
chelebmaximaus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com09:09
wsmithletschatt, startup or in use?09:09
dalamarthey work09:09
Bjorn`Foodi'll try wine09:09
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dalamarBjorn`Food, what are you trying to run?09:09
maximauscheleb: thanks :thumbsup:09:10
letschattwsmith, it starts faster than in windows09:10
alxarchhi i need some help with setting up my soundcard (dpkg produces an error)09:10
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letschattwsmith, i run a 5.5 year old computer on which win 2k blazes in app response time.. but not on ubuntu09:10
kcidxwhat deb package has glxgears and glxinfo09:11
wsmithletschatt, win2k has that preloader guy running all the time09:11
letschattwsmith, firefox takes 4-5 seconds to load tabs and sometimes 3-5 seconds for ctrl+ + to return09:11
letschattbut app response times are horrible in ubuntu once they're up09:11
alxarchhi i need some help with setting up my soundcard (dpkg produces an error) anybody?09:11
Ex-Cyberkcidx: xbase-clients09:12
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letschattwhat kinda card alxarch09:12
letschatt?09:12
alxarchintel hda09:13
Ex-Cyberkcidx: for future reference: dpkg -S filename09:13
alxarchon 915g chipset09:13
letschatt2 years ago i wasted days and nights to get my sound card to produce bass and trbl controls which i only got through alsa09:13
letschattalxarch it's an exercise in research. you'll have to go to alsa's website and try many different things.09:13
kcidxex, thanks09:14
kcidxex-cy, thanks09:14
kcidxoo name completion not working09:14
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wsmithletschatt,  cheap hack to make firefox start faster: 1. sudo apt-get install prelink 2.  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib sudo prelink ./firefox-bin09:14
wsmithin /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox09:14
wsmithbut I dunno if it'll help much09:14
letschattwsmith, it's not the startup it never was. but firefox is about 1/3 to 1/5 the speed in response time compared to win2k09:15
letschatti am thinking about nice on firefox09:15
letschatta friend installed ubuntu on his laptop and he said movies were playing frame by frame09:16
wsmithletschatt, also go to about:config and enable disableIPv609:16
Jhairletschatt, maybe ha has an slow laptop09:16
Jhairs/ha/he09:16
Ex-Cyberletschatt: the last time I had a problem like that it was actually due to my video chip overheating... if you're running dual-boot 2K and nothing happens in 2K though that's probably not it09:16
letschattJhair, no in windows things run fine and fast09:16
qtpiI'm having problems with my sound. I just managed to get my sound card to work properly with ubuntu but cannot change the volume of any mp3 that I play.  I tried to change it in mplayer and in Volume Control, but the volume stays at the same level. Any ideas on what's causing this?09:17
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Ex-Cyberletschatt: how much RAM do you have?09:17
wsmithqtpi, did you increase the volume of the dsp channel?09:17
Spudchathow do i make a balnk txt document and save it?09:17
letschattEx-Cyber, i have a fan on my matrox g450 on top of the cpu.. an athlon cpu and fast graphics card requires a hovercraft fan damnit09:17
Spudchatblank*09:17
juanejits me again, when i am partitioning with the ubuntu tool on the installer there are 3 partitions09:17
juanejhow do i change hda number?09:18
letschatt256 but windows' app response times are far far better.. i mean amsn just gives up :)09:18
wsmithSpudchat, Applications->Accessories->Text Editor09:18
hardw1rewhat issue do i have to give to install the gnome desktop environment?09:18
Ex-Cybermy memory could be fuzzy but I think gnome sucks down a heck of a lot more RAM than 2K explorer.exe, heh09:18
wsmithSpudchat, the File->Save09:18
qtpiwsmith: how would i do that09:18
Spudchatnaw im workin on my friends debian system09:18
Spudchatand everytime i try to save a config i made it says no such file09:18
letschattlol yeah i believe so but even in ion (the most lightweight wm) firefox is cursed09:18
hardw1re!gnome09:18
ubotusomebody said gnome was an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.09:18
wsmithqtpi, right-click on the volume control in your systray and go to open volume control09:18
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Rebs./configure: line 2200: g++: command not found09:19
Rebsany clue?09:19
XenguySpudchat: touch <filename>09:19
spolapfft, kde>gnome09:19
wsmithSpudchat, are you typing in a full path? if the directory doesn't exist you'll get that09:19
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qtpiwsmith: there is no dsp channel listed there09:19
wsmithRebs apt-get install build-essential09:19
Ex-Cyberpfft, rio > kde09:19
JhairRebs, install the command which has not been found09:19
xav_hi... i'm using breezy for a while now and i'm having troubles with my ipod09:19
wsmithqtpi, pcm, sorry09:19
spola:)09:19
Rebsthanks wsmith and Jhair09:20
letschatti hated gnome and stuck with kde but the new kde is not only a pig it's a pig with a load of lipstick and mascara on it. you can't work with it. it's huge and i hate xp or mac osx why would i want the two together?09:20
xav_everything works fine except playing from ipod in rhythmbox09:20
Spudchatim workin in my home and just wanna save a file09:20
qtpiwsmith: increasing/decreasing pcm has no effect on volume09:20
xav_it seems there are errors in handling for URI09:20
wsmithqtpi, any other devices in File->Change Device ?09:20
xav_after some research i think this might come from dbus09:20
qtpiyes09:21
xav_which should i be using dbus or dbus-109:21
qtpii have it set on the right device09:21
xav_??09:21
wsmithqtpi, repeat for each09:21
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Spudchatnevermind i got it09:21
qtpii just tried on all devices, no effect09:21
wsmithqtpi, none whatsoever?09:21
ilba7r!info breezy09:21
qtpino effect on volume at all09:22
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spolaEx-Cyber, whats rio? couldn't find anything relevant on freshmeat09:22
ilba7r!breezy09:22
uboturumour has it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/09:22
hardw1reanyone know how i can install the gnome desktop / gnome app's on breezy?09:22
jack|assanyone seen a problem when going from hoary->breezy where packages start demanding libcairo1 >= 0.3.0, which doesn't seem to exist in breezy?09:22
wsmithqtpi, you're beyond me, now I'd try alsamixer and aumix09:22
Rebswhats Libz? can't find it in synaptic09:22
wsmithRebs, the only package that doesn't follow debian naming guidelines zlib1g09:23
qtpialready tried alsamixer, will try aumix09:23
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qtpiwhat's aumix?09:24
RadamanthysCan I play Counter in Ubuntu?09:24
Rebsbleh now it says it can't find x development09:24
wsmithjack|ass, apt-get install libcairo2 ?09:24
hardw1reRadamanthys: counter strike?09:25
Ex-Cyberspola: it's the window system from Plan 9 4th edition... you can read that comment as having a </sarcasm> if you like ;)09:25
jack|asswsmith: yeah, but the packages are wanting libcairo1 specifically.09:25
wsmithRebs, apt-get install x-window-system-dev09:25
hardw1reRadamanthys: yes you can run counter-strike/source, you'll need to go see this site: www.transgaming.com09:25
qtpiis it possible to access a slave ntfs drive from ubuntu?09:25
hardw1re(CPU): AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+: (Frequency): 1872.191MHz: (Cache): 512 KB: (Bogomips): 3710.9709:25
wsmithqtpi, yes, just mount it09:25
qtpihow do i access it09:26
llpamieskyncani: totem-xine, metacity ....  a lot of packages depends of libcairo1, and it is not avaiable !!!09:26
wsmithqtpi, have you mounted drives before?09:26
hardw1retake a look at the file /proc/partitions09:26
qtpiyes09:26
hardw1reto find the precise location of it09:26
Rebschecking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no09:26
llpamiesis a breezy bug ?09:26
qtpiits just that i dont know how to access it since this is my 2nd day with unix/ubuntu09:26
wsmithqtpi, then just mount /dev/hd<xyz> /mnt/ntfs and the files are in /mnt/nfs09:26
wsmith/mnt/ntfs09:26
Radamanthyshardw1re,  thanks09:26
hardw1reno probs Radamanthys09:26
wsmithqtpi, so is it mounted?09:26
kyncanillpamies: breezy is not out yet, expect it to be broken until then, and use hoary if you want a stable system09:26
qtpithat wont delete anything, will it?09:27
Ex-Cyberwhere can I find a hoary-compatible unrar-nonfree?09:27
hardw1rea wot?09:27
spolaEx-Cyber, oh .. lol, figures i couldn't find it on freshmeat09:27
Ex-Cyber(or more generally any tool that would work with the newer .rar format)09:27
RadamanthysEx-Cyber,  this is a good question09:27
wsmithqtpi, no. it is (still?) recommended to mount ntfs drives as read-only, though09:27
Webby`I better download Hoary09:27
RadamanthysWinamp and Winrar for linux09:27
Webby`Breezy is buggy on my system09:27
llpamieskyncani: yes, I know it, but how is possible that other people has breeze running ....09:27
hardw1reim using breezy purely cause i was having trouble with getting the 2.6.12 kernel etc.09:27
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llpamieskyncani: can You send me your libcairo1 from your apt/cache ?09:28
hardw1reand on breezy there is an nvidia module for that kernel too09:28
Ex-CyberI suspect the debian testing unrar-nonfree will work but haven't tried it yet (dialup)... unstable had a newer libc dep09:28
GoClick2FireFox won't start, I uninstalled it and Reinstalled it with Synaptic and now I seem to be hooped09:28
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kyncanillpamies: i'm _not_ using breezy (because it's broken)09:28
qtpimount: can't find /dev/hdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:28
pestilenceEx-Cyber: what's wrong with unrar-nonfree in multiverse?09:28
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wsmithGoClick2, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak09:29
hardw1reqtpi: check /proc/partitions09:29
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hardw1rethat will list all your partitions09:29
slyhey sorry for not replying hit ot sorted09:29
llpamiesanybody can tell me where I can get a libcairo1 deb ?09:29
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Ex-Cyberpestilence: if it's in multiverse my indexes are probably broken again.. I'll try again, thanks09:29
slywhats that that shooting game09:29
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GoClick2wsmith,  do you know where I should look for an error log or something?09:30
wsmithGoClick2, if you start firefox from a terminal, it'll dump all kinds of output there09:30
bogaHow can I have my cdrom auto-mounted?09:30
qtpibash: /proc/partitions: Permission denied09:30
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surfduehow do i generate ssh keys?09:30
juanejhey how do i change the order of the partitions?09:30
wsmithqtpi, cat /proc/partitions09:31
GoClick2wsmith, I type FireFox at a term?09:31
osfameronsurfdue, ssh-keygen09:31
wsmithGoClick2, without caps: firefox09:31
GoClick2it just returns09:31
juanejI have 3 partitions, ext2, swap and a 34gb FAT3209:31
qtpiyes, the drives showed up09:31
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reikiok I gotta ask. I been hammering away at trying to get Spamassassin working with Evolution and it's a real pain in the butt. What are y'all using in Ubuntu for email and how are you handling spam?09:31
wsmithjuanej, you can use parted, but that's trixsy09:31
hardw1reyeah now you can work out which is your ntfs drive09:31
wsmithqtpi, which hd<x> is it?09:31
fred_eHey guys..whenever i put wlan0 i can no longer ping localhost..anyone know why this could be?09:31
Ex-Cybersly: "that shooting game"?09:31
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hardw1reand do a mkdir some where to mount that hd device to09:31
juanejwsmith: i have gparted09:32
qtpihdb09:32
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qtpitheres hdb and hdb109:32
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slyits ok i rememberd :)09:32
slychronium09:32
wsmithjuanej, I would sincerely recommend against it. It is really easy to lose your entire drive.09:32
bogaHow can I have my cdrom auto-mounted?09:32
jack|assargh...  ok, so is anyone having the same problem with 'libcairo2' not being seen as superceding 'libcairo1' as a dependency?09:32
Bjorn`Foodwhats the apt to wine ?09:32
hardw1reoooh i tell you one thing i have noticed from going from hoary to breezy, my sata drives will now mount on boot instead of having to mount them once i get into kde09:32
wsmithqtpi: ok. now, do this: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb109:32
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juanejwsmith: i want to format the ext2 and swap to install again09:33
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wsmithqtpi, then mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 -o ro09:33
juanejbut the hda number is not correct09:33
jack|assis there a different breezy repository i should be using?09:33
wsmithjuanej, I don't follow09:33
juanejfor ext 2 is hda2, for swap is hda 6 and for the fat32 is hda509:33
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surfdueplease can someone tell me how to generate ssh keys09:33
thrice`juanej, then what's your question?09:34
surfdueplease its an emergency09:34
juaneji want to have hda1 for ext2, hda2 for swap and hda3 for the fat3209:34
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pestilencesurfdue: ssh-keygen09:34
qtpimount: only root can do that09:34
wsmithsurfdue, man ssh-keygen09:34
wsmithssh-keygen -t rsa|dsa09:34
surfduei dont know what to choose09:34
surfduewhat to do09:34
juanejwhen i use the partition tool of the installer it gives that numbers to the partitions09:34
wsmithsurfdue, what are these keys for?09:34
surfduesomeone to ssh into my box09:34
juanejand there is a windows xp entry on grub09:34
juaneji dont have windows installed09:34
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wsmithsurfdue, passwordless?09:34
surfduesshd09:34
surfduesee09:34
surfduetrue09:34
RadamanthysHow come to install the Winrar and Winamp for linux?09:34
surfduethey willlogin via usersnames09:35
snippyhey ppl..09:35
pestilenceRadamanthys: Win* doesn't exist in linux.09:35
snippysome still remember my partition problems.. lol..09:35
wsmithI see. Then as the user they will be logging in as, do ssh-keygen -t rsa09:35
wsmithsurfdue, then do ssh-keygen -t dsa09:35
pestilenceRadamanthys: xmms and unrar-nonfree are what you want09:35
Bjorn`Foodwhats the apt line for WINE?09:35
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wsmithsurfdue, just hit enter when asked where to put the files09:35
Radamanthyspestilence,  thats rigth this a equivalent09:35
surfduethank you09:36
wsmithsurfdue, but that's only half of the magic trick09:36
snippyI decided to not use any ntfs crap for linux.. and just let ubuntu read the ntfs partition so I can copy some stuff on my actual partition.. like 20gb.. then delete the whole ntfs.. :/09:36
surfdueoh09:36
Ex-CyberBjorn`Food: I'm not sure about an ubuntu-specific one, but maybe see if http://www.winehq.org has a link to a repo...09:36
surfduethenwhat?09:36
wsmithsurfdue, you have to get the *.pub from ~/.ssh to the end users09:36
surfduewhy09:36
surfduessh never requered this before09:37
hardw1reooooh and also this kernel/breezy distro actually reports my cpu speed correctly!09:37
surfdueon any other linux distro09:37
qtpiwsmith: i mounted the drive, now how do i access it?09:37
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wsmithsurfdue, your users need the *.pub files to login passwordless-ly09:37
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pestilencesurfdue: if all you want is ssh, apt-get install openssh-server09:37
joseduenashello09:37
surfduei did pestilence09:37
juanejwhat is the LVM thing on the ubuntu installation partition tool?09:37
joseduenasanyone knows seahorse for gpg encryption ?09:37
surfduesurfdue@ubuntu:/etc/init.d $ /etc/init.d/ssh start09:37
surfdue * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...09:37
surfdueCould not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key09:37
surfdueCould not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key09:37
surfdueDisabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key09:37
surfdue *hd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.                                [fail] 09:37
wsmithqtpi, Places->Computer->Filesystem->mnt->ntfs09:37
surfdueit needs, keys09:38
pestilencesurfdue: that's something different.09:38
qtpiwsmith: i mounted the hard drive, now how do i access it?09:38
surfdueoh09:38
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surfduehow do i fix this09:38
surfdueits really an emergency09:38
surfduesoorrry09:38
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pestilencesurfdue: i would say apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server09:38
pestilenceor dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server09:38
GoClick/echo $host09:38
GoClickhrm09:38
surfdueworks09:38
surfduethanks09:38
pestilencesure09:38
qtpiwsmith: i dont have permission to access it09:39
joseduenasit is supposed there is a plgin for gedit and nautilis packaged in seahorse...09:39
Scrawny1whats the command to do a sudo search?09:39
juanejhey wsmith09:39
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wsmithjuanej, yessa?09:39
wsmithqtpi, one sec09:39
juanejon gparted i read that my HD is msdos type09:39
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juanej"DiskType: MSDOS"09:39
juanejI see 4 partitions09:40
juanejhda2 for ext209:40
juanejhda 1 have hda6 and hda509:40
juanejhda5 is for the fat3209:40
snippydamn I cant mount the NTFS partition09:40
juanejhda6 for the swap09:40
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snippysomeone tell me if I'm doing something wrong?09:40
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Rebseverytime i go to a flash site, mozilla dies09:40
snippyI want it to show in nautilus09:40
wsmithqtpi, sudo mount -o remount,umask=000,ro /mnt/ntfs09:41
pestilencesnippy: what is the error09:41
juanejwsmith: it shouldnt be msdos type, should it?09:41
snippyno error09:41
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pestilencesnippy: then what do you mean, you can't mount it09:41
wsmithwsmith, it's msdos as opposed to a mac or sparc system --> something completely not x8609:41
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snippypestilence I just mount it with   mount -t /dev/hda5 /media/windows_c09:41
snippyno output09:41
RadamanthysIn the xmms its adpated the equivalent of Amip09:41
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snippybut nautilus wont show the content of media/windows_c09:42
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qtpiwsmith: still have no permission09:42
pestilencesnippy: probably wrong permission.09:42
wsmithjuanej, I guess that could be better said as you File Allocation Table is msdos-based09:42
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juanejhow do i change that?09:42
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filip_i have som mp3 that i whant to burn into an cd, how can i do?09:42
snippypestilence: yep thats what it says.. how can I change it?09:42
kirkiwhere can I get this stuf? (ubuntu) (please)09:42
Bjorn`Foodhmm09:43
Bjorn`Foodi've got the wine repos now09:43
Bjorn`Foodbut when i want to install it09:43
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Bjorn`FoodI get an error09:43
wsmithjuanej, you don't your machine will not work without it09:43
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titaniumi need to be able to fully control the contents of a directory remotely (from a windows machine, full permissions to do anything). what's the best way to accomplish this?09:43
juanejwsmith: but i dont have windows xp on it09:43
juanejand grub stays showing i do09:43
wsmithjuanej, the disk type (as long as it's disk and not partition) as msdos is perfectly normal09:43
wsmithjuanej, so, all you want to do is get rid of the windows xp in grub?09:44
juanejwsmith: and change the hda number09:44
kirkidoes anybody can be kind and tell me: where can I get this stuf from? (ubuntu)09:44
snippypestilence?09:44
pestilencesnippy: snippy try mounting with umask=055509:44
juaneji dont want a hda 6 for swap09:44
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juanejhda1 for ext2 hda2 for swap and hda3 for the fat3209:44
wsmithkirki: ubuntulinux.org?09:45
snippypestilence, whats the command?09:45
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kirkithanks a lot wsmith09:45
jbullanyone had a go at compiling sonance/banshee from cvs recently?09:45
hardw1recan xmms play shoutcast / mp3 streams?09:45
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wsmithhardw1re, yes09:45
juanejwsmith: let me show u a screenshot of gparted09:46
JazyPPCreally.09:46
JazyPPCcan it play *.asx streams?09:46
steven__how can i make cron to run a script i made everyday at 6:0009:46
juanejwsmith: http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7551/screenshot5pu.png09:46
wsmithqtpi, sudo mount -o remount,uid=1000,ro /mnt/ntfs09:46
Bjorn`FoodDoes wine support amd 64 cpu's ?09:46
redguysteven__: by reading man crontab ?09:47
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wsmithsteven__, man 5 crontab09:47
wsmith00 06 * * *09:47
Ummmmmbjorn: by support, if you mean run -- yes. Whether it supports full 64bit functionality -- I'm all ears09:47
qtpiwsmith: still doesnt work09:47
qtpino permission to acces09:47
qtpiaccess09:47
wsmithqtpi, ???09:47
pestilencesnippy: mount umask=0555 /dev/whatever /media/windows_c09:48
Bjorn`FoodUmmmmm, its because i can't install it09:48
Bjorn`Food=/09:48
qtpii cant access the mounted drive09:48
Bjorn`FoodI added the repos09:48
wsmithqtpi, did I originally tell you to mount it in /mnt/hdb1 or /mnt/ntfs?09:48
Bjorn`Foodbut i can't install wine09:48
qtpihdb1 i think09:48
juanejwsmith: did u see my gparted?09:48
juanejhttp://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7551/screenshot5pu.png09:48
wsmithjuanej, yes.09:48
juanejsomething is wrong09:48
juanejwhat is that hda1?09:48
wsmithjuanej, that's perfectly normal09:48
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juanejbut why hda5 and 6 for my fat32 and swap?09:48
juanejhow do i change that?09:48
juanej:(09:49
wsmithjuanej, back when ms-dos was a fledgling os, bill gates in his infinite wisdom decided to limit partitions to 409:49
wsmithjuanej, later, when people needed more, someone created a special partition type, called extended09:49
wsmithjuanej, which can hold more partitions09:49
juanejwhere is hda3? where is hda4?09:49
pestilencesnippy: acutally, maybe it's mount /dev/whatever /media/windows_c umask=000209:49
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juaneji just have 3 partitions09:49
juaneji dont need that extended type09:50
wsmithjuanej, the extended rules say so as to not interfere with the old school way of doing partitions, the ext ones would start at 509:50
juanejuhmm09:50
juanejwhat about making just swap not extended?09:50
juanejcan i do that?09:50
wsmithjuanej, you can try. I'm telling you that there is nothing wrong with your partitions other than you let an automated tool do it for you. (probably redhat's)09:51
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snippypestilence, not working.. it says moint point error09:51
jbulli'm trying to compile latest banshee from cvs but it spits this error on make install: "No rule to make target 'install-data-hook'...ideas?09:51
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juanejuhmmm, how do i run redhat's tool without installing it?09:51
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snippymount: mount point umask=0002 does not exist09:52
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wsmithqtpi, sorry I've been telling you the wrong things09:52
steven__wsmith thanks dude09:52
wsmithsnippy it's -o umask=000009:52
UmmmmmI have a 120GB NTFS drive which needs to be converted to ext3... is there a tool to do that?09:52
Radamanthysbye people09:52
wsmithsnippy, where 0000 is your umask ( don't forget the -o)09:52
JhairUmmmmm, the ubuntu installer does that09:52
wsmithqtpi, sudo mount -o remount,umask=0000,ro /mnt/hdb109:52
hoslerWhats a good replacement for gaim? Gaim keeps having some sort of segmentation fault even when I completely remove it then reinstall it.09:52
snippymount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /media/windows_c busy09:52
snippymount: according to mtab, /dev/hda5 is already mounted on /media/windows_c09:52
snippyhow to unmount it?09:52
wsmithUmmmmm, is it ext2 now?09:52
RadamanthysHow about the xmms on the Irc client?09:53
wsmithsnippy, umount /dev/hda509:53
Ummmmmno it's ntfs09:53
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wsmithUmmmmm, mke2fs /dev/myusb09:53
wsmithsorry09:53
wsmithUmmmmm, mke2fs -j /dev/myusb09:53
hardw1rehey does anyone know what needs to be isntall/running to get the cookie handler working?09:53
snippythanks guys, worked fine ;)09:53
heatxsinkhello all, how come everytime I reboot, /dev/dvd goes away?09:53
Ummmmmwill that wipe the drive? or convert the fs?09:53
wsmithUmmmmm, wipe09:53
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hoslerWhat is a good aol instant messenger program for linux that is not gaim?09:53
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UmmmmmI was hoping to avoid that ... :(09:53
wsmithUmmmmm, If you want to convert, you have to copy locally, then format, then put back on09:54
jbullhosler:  far as i know there isn't one...09:54
wsmithhosler, centericq09:54
hoslerwsmith, thanks.09:54
Ummmmmsigh, thought so. Only problem is that I don't have 120gb spare on the network ... have to get another drive *sob*09:54
dcravenhosler: you could always use a jabber client like gajim with a transport.09:54
wsmithUmmmmm, as far as I know, there's no way to format a drive non-destructively09:55
wsmithUmmmmm, best buy does refunds09:55
hoslerok09:55
Ummmmmthanks wsmith just gonna have to bite the bullet and do it the old-fashioned way ...09:55
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Ummmmmbest buy? what?!09:55
Ummmmmah oic thanks09:55
Ummmmmlol09:55
funkyHaterk... i think i need to recompile alsa for that kernel update :S09:56
binaI have a Nvidia GF4 Ti (i think its Ti at least) and I've isntalled the nvidia drivers through apt-get, however, the GL screensavers dont seem to load and Tux racer just seems to stop as soon as he starts to slide down the hill. Escape still works, so i dont think its the program crashing.  Anyone know what could be causing this?09:56
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slybina09:56
wsmithbina, crashed into a wall?09:57
wsmithqtpi, any luck?09:57
binawsmith: hehe, no, shamefully :). The road seems clear.  I think it could be either my card or the drivers as it happened in FC4, and the screensavers arent working09:58
binaim hoping its the drivers :)09:58
binaalthough, i imigine i could live without tux racer :)09:58
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wsmithbina, well, if you glxinfo, is direct rendering: yes?09:58
binawsmith: ill check. never heard o that prog before :)09:59
binawoah, lods of stuff09:59
james__Can anybody tell me if I need to download drivers to get sound?09:59
wsmithbina, 3rd line09:59
wsmithjames__, no09:59
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binawsmith: yeah, direct rendering: Yes09:59
wsmithjames__, there aren't really any drivers to download09:59
wsmithbina, cool. Your acceleration is working. However it seems that your drivers a mucked up. Using the proprietary or the open source ones?10:00
james__I can't figure out why I have no sound10:00
wsmithjames__, what kind of soundcard?10:00
james__Creative i think10:00
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wsmithjames__, not the dell sblive, is it?10:00
james__ct452010:01
binawsmith: not a clue, all I did was 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'10:01
james__when I had windows i downloaded the nvidia desktop manager and it took care of everything10:01
james__thats about all I know10:02
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binawsmith: should i try installing the linux-restructed-modules... package?10:02
james__and on the card it says creative ct452010:02
binarestricted*10:02
wsmithbina, I dunno. I've never had luck with nvidia.10:02
wsmith!nvidia10:02
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2910:02
wsmithshould help10:03
binawsmith: wow cool :) thanks10:03
binacan anyone do that?10:03
wsmithbina, yes10:03
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binasweet :) will remember for the future10:03
wsmithjames__, sanity check: is the volume up?10:03
apokryphoshow can I find out the /dev that a folder in /media is mounted on?10:04
wsmithapokryphos, mount10:04
wsmithapokryphos, or cat /etc/mtab10:04
james__yes and everything it plugged in, but when I try to turn the volume up through ubuntu it says...10:04
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nEmiSHapokryphos, df -ah or /etc/mtab as wsmith said10:04
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james__no volume contol elements and or devices found10:04
apokryphosThank you all10:05
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nEmiSHcan someone help me figure out a hotplug issue?10:05
wsmithjames__, is it new? Or have you had it since you installed ubuntu?10:05
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nEmiSHwell HOW automounting works with hotplug devices10:05
mrproperIs it still unsafe to upgrade to Breezy from Horay?10:05
REBELinBLUEhey10:05
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james__is what new?10:05
silvestrohi10:05
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wsmithjames__, the card10:05
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slyanyone know any games to apt-get to play with, got frozen-bubble, tuxracer, chrominum10:05
Kruegerhello :) how do i get sound in tuxracer :)10:05
REBELinBLUEdoes anyone know of an EPG (electronic programme guide) for linux? like digiguide for windows, I don't want a tv viewer just a tv guide10:06
james__nope, it worked fine, then I formatted my hard drive and installed ubuntu instead of windows10:06
silvestroi've a problema someone can help me?(my english is't perfect but i'm italian :P)10:06
wsmithwesnoth-* neverball gl-117 nethack freecraft10:06
silvestroproblem10:06
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wsmith!games are neverball gl-117 nethack freecraft frozen-bubble tuxrace chromium10:06
ubotu...but games is already something else...10:06
wsmith!games10:06
ubotumethinks games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.10:06
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Ummmmmsilvestro: what's up?10:06
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silvestromy on board vga....10:07
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lxuser_sergi try to upgrade gnome-media from hoary to breezy, and i have a problem. I need libcairo1 (>=0.6.0) but it is not installable. but i have only libcairo2. What is wrong?10:08
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silvestrothe mother board is fic k7m-400a10:08
wsmithjames__, do lspci. Are there any sound cards listed?10:09
silvestroand mount a via chipset10:09
silvestrobut i can't see corretly10:09
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KruegerI have no sound in tuxracer ?10:09
james__how do i do lspci?10:09
LasseLis there an easy way I can test the performance of my graphics driver10:10
james__i have my device manager open10:10
silvestroi see a lot of waves10:10
LasseLso I can see if it pays off to upgrade it10:10
wsmithApplications->System Tools->Terminal10:10
wsmithtype lspci10:10
james__ok10:10
wsmithLasseL, glxgears10:10
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james__VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)10:11
james__ is that it?10:11
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LasseLwsmith, 200fps?10:11
waltzI just spent the last 4 hours trying to install Linux 2.6.10-5 on my SCSI 400GB SATA HDD, and I FAILED!!!10:11
wsmithLasseL, poor.10:11
slythat neverball is mad , thankyou :)10:11
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waltzUbuntu Linux that is.10:11
LasseLwsmith, is there a way to test 2D performance ?10:12
wsmithwaltz, you just said SCSI SATA HDD10:12
waltzIt told me that the "greeter" failed.10:12
james__i don't think it's there10:12
wsmithsly, it comes with neverputt. totally addictive10:12
lxuser_sergwhere i can get libcairo1 >=0.6.0? please help!10:12
d2dchatwhat is the best ftp client to use in linux?10:12
wsmithjames__, is it a card or onboard?10:12
wsmithd2dchat, gftp10:12
d2dchatwsmith, how do u use it?10:12
LasseLd2dchat, nautilus works10:13
wsmithd2dchat, so does mozilla10:13
waltz:\10:13
d2dchatwsmith, well, how do u use gftp?10:13
LasseLd2dchat, just write ftp://somesite.com in the nautilus addr10:13
james__it's a card, like it's not on the motherboard if that's what you mean10:13
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wsmithd2dchat, use synaptec to find gtp, then install it. It'll appear under Applications->Internet10:13
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wsmith*gftp10:13
wsmithjames__, Is it PCI or ISA?10:14
james__how do i tell?10:14
wsmithHow old is it?10:14
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james__i don't know how old it is, but it doesn't say pci anywhere10:14
wsmithjames__, are you looking in your machine?10:15
Wanderer___Anyone know why my Win XP OS made corrections to hard disk after installing Ubuntu? It also claims that new hardware is installed.10:15
wsmithjames__, what color is the port it's plugged into?10:15
james__i have it plugged into the black one that says spkr out10:15
d2dchatwsmith, heh im a newb and have no idea how to use synaptec10:16
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slyhmm i cant see that =\10:16
wsmithd2dchat, System->Admin->Synaptic10:16
steven__well can sombody help me, this is not a linux question but i need it in order to make my linux box to behave10:16
james__is it bad to look in your machine when it's on?10:16
d2dchatwsmith, oo, well i kinda wanted to learn in terminal10:16
wsmithjames__, no, but don't kill youself reaching around the desk10:16
Ummmmmjames__ only for your warrantee10:16
wsmithd2dchat, sudo apt-get install gftp10:16
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james__no warranty i put the computer togeather myself10:17
Ummmmmsteven__ what's up?10:17
steven__i have a compaq box but after a while the ucp starts to hybernite and when it happens everythings crashes10:17
james__and i have no idea what i'm doing10:17
Ummmmmwhat's a ucp?!10:17
d2dchatE: Couldn't find package gftp10:17
wsmithjames__, when did you put this computer together?10:17
james__i plug the speaker into the one that says spkr out right?10:17
wsmithjames__, correct10:18
KruegerI have no sound in tuxracer or other games ?10:18
james__i put it togeather about six months ago10:18
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wsmithKrueger, killall esd before starting10:18
wsmithjames__, do you remember if the sound card was new?10:18
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steven__i have a compaq box but after a while the ucp starts to hybernite and when it happens everythings crashes10:18
wsmithjames__, I'm trying to figure out if you have an ISA card (really old), in which case, it wouldn't show up in lspci10:18
Ummmmmsteven__ what is a UCP?!10:18
james__yeah it was, well it worked until after I installed ubuntu10:19
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steven__Ummmmm: i mean my cpu10:19
james__oh yeah it might be that old10:19
mustafuHeh, while we're on this subject...how far back does hardware support go?  I have an ancient OptiAudio 16 ISA card and was wondering if it might be supported10:19
wsmithLike > 8 years old?10:19
Ummmmmok - wanna try turning off power management? go into the bios and disable acpi10:19
steven__Ummmmm: it's and old compaq presario10:19
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steven__Ummmmm: how can i get into the bios  in a compaq box10:19
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wsmithmustafu, those old ISA cards are still supported under the OSS drivers, but not the ALSA. So, in other words, it's difficult10:20
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james__i have no idea how old10:20
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dimethylhey10:20
wsmithsteven__, Is it an *old* box?10:20
steven__wsmith yes10:20
mustafuno easier than it is in windows, I'd imagine10:20
d2dchatswales, E: Couldn't find package gftp10:20
mustafuwindows won't touch the thing ;)10:20
dimethylcan someone pm me their sources.list ?..i upgraded to breezy and i wanna go back, firefox has no fonts on it its scary10:20
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wsmithsteven__, compaqs used to ship with a partition that had their bios. if you just installed linux and wiped that out, you're going to be hurting10:20
james__oh well, I don't need sound that badly10:20
james__thank you so much for your help10:20
wsmithdimethyl, ubuntuguide.org10:20
Efwishelp, while GRUB was installing i got an error 1710:20
james__you rock10:21
dimethylwsmith, i cant use my browser man10:21
dimethylthere is no text10:21
dimethylthe fonts are missing10:21
wsmithjames__, sorry couldn't help.10:21
steven__its a compaq presario 502310:21
wsmithdimethyl, how do you want it?10:21
dimethylwhat?...just typed in a pm would be cool10:21
dimethylpasted10:21
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dimethylles u wanna try to dcc it10:21
pinky2000Anyone notice a weird behavior in Warty with Xorg where after a day or two of being logged in the xorg process seems to consume 50% of the CPU time even whn the box is completely idle?10:21
steven__wsmith: it had only one partition10:21
wsmithsteven__, when the logo comes up, press esc . if it doesn't tell you to press another key to do it, you might be screwed10:21
wsmithdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted10:22
wsmithdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted10:22
wsmith## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the10:22
wsmith## distribution.10:22
wsmithdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted10:22
wsmithdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted10:22
wsmith## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'10:22
wsmith## repository.10:22
pinky2000I'm running XFCE instead of the default gnome btw10:22
wsmith## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu10:22
wsmith## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to10:22
wsmith## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in10:22
mjrpinky2000, umm, Warty doesn't have X.org :)10:22
wsmith## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security10:22
wsmith## team.10:22
wsmithdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe10:22
wsmithdeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe10:22
pinky2000sorry, hoary10:22
wsmithdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted10:22
dimethylwhoa dude10:22
wsmithdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted10:22
dimethylpm pm10:22
wsmithdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe10:22
wsmithdeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe10:22
wsmithdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse10:22
wsmithdeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse10:22
wsmith## Backports10:22
wsmithdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:22
wsmithdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted10:22
wsmithdid I just paste that?10:22
wsmithstupid xchat10:22
dimethylin the main chan10:22
wsmithsorry10:22
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steven__wsmith: well everything is working fine, so i dont think i srewed something up10:23
mjrpinky2000, well, anyway, no10:23
wsmithsteven__, your machines doesn't need the bios settings utility to work correctly.10:23
pinky2000if I restart X then it's fine for another day or two10:23
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steven__wsmith: well i am going to turn that thing off10:24
heatxsinkdoes anyone else have a problem where every metacity window that is in focus the title bar flashes?10:24
steven__thnx10:24
pinky2000I thought it was a background app but even with everything but the bare essentials it does it. I wonder if maybe it's xscreensaver or something10:24
dimethylthanks tho wsmith10:25
pinky2000oh well, off to restart X10:25
d2dchatDo i need to get both gftp-common and gftp-gtk?10:25
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wsmithd2dchat, gftp-gtk will get gftp-common automatically10:26
d2dchatk10:26
Wanderer___Will anyone help me?10:26
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d2dchatwhat is a good editor package that highlights html and recognizes php and ruby>10:26
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wsmithd2dchat, you can start wars with that question10:27
d2dchatlol10:27
aeruderd2dchat: there's tons of them i'm sure10:27
wsmithgedit, vim, emacs, joe, jed, kate,10:27
aeruderd2dchat: jedit, eclipse, the list goes on..10:27
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d2dchatwsmith, your preference?10:27
wsmithd2dchat, vim10:27
aeruderd2dchat: you are treading in dangerous territory now10:27
d2dchatlol10:28
Bjorn`FoodDoes anybody know if wine will work under amd 64 release of ubuntu ?10:28
d2dchatwsmith, why vim?10:28
wsmithd2dchat, I code all day long. Most efficient for me. My hands never leave the keyboard.10:28
Wanderer___Anyone? Help?10:28
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jtan325why don't you say what your problem is?10:29
aeruderd2dchat: i too prefer vim, but i think you'll find that if you choose vim or emacs and take the time to really learn them you'll enjoy vast amounts of productivity at the expense of a rather steep learning curve10:29
aeruderWanderer___: you don't need to ask to ask, that's just dumb10:29
aeruderjust ask your question10:29
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d2dchataeruder, there is a learning curve involved with editors? lol10:30
Wanderer___Because I don't want to go through the trouble of asking if everyone is just going to ignore me.10:30
aeruderd2dchat: vim and emacs? sure, at least if you want to use them effectively10:30
jtan325we will if you have an attitude like that10:30
wsmithWanderer___, ignoring != never had problem10:30
d2dchataeruder, im sure that while im using them, i get better but can still code10:30
aeruderd2dchat: i could do things in vim that would make a person used to standard editors stare in awe (as most people who have spent a couple years could)10:30
Wanderer___Better to wait until I have someones' attention. Then I just have to type the problem once.10:30
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aeruderd2dchat: yea, i mean, emacs and vim you can use like a standard editor for the most part10:31
aerudervim is definitely a little further from standard than most10:31
wsmithd2dchat, beware. vim is *extremely* difficult to get the hang of10:31
aeruderbut at that point, you might just use some other editor10:31
Wanderer___Anyway, can I open a private chat with anyone who would be willing to help?10:31
aeruderd2dchat: but very rewarding when you get it ;)10:31
wsmithd2dchat, but don't be affraid. all that silliness was well thought-out10:31
aeruderWanderer___: ask your question in here or go away10:31
aeruderWanderer___: just ask, seriously, why would you want to limit the people helping you from 300 or whatever to 110:32
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d2dchatlol *shivers*10:32
Bjorn`FoodDoes anybody know if wine will work under amd 64 release of ubuntu ?10:32
wsmithBjorn`Food, did you try?10:32
bz0bcan someone please tell me the dpkg command to install something10:32
aeruderd2dchat: the nice thing about vim or emacs, is that they are available -=everywhere=-10:32
wsmithbz0b, apt-get install10:33
hardw1reBjorn`Food: i have tried and its very much doubtfall :(10:33
aerudermac, windows, linux, and base install on almost all unix installs10:33
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hardw1rebut cedega works10:33
aerudervim is an enhanced vi which has been around for decades10:33
hardw1re(Kernel):[Linux 2.6.12-7-amd64-xeon x86_64] 10:33
funkyHatWanderer___, none of us know everything, asking in the room means someone who knows the answer is many times more likely to see your question10:33
bz0bwsmith, but its a .deb file10:33
wsmithaeruder, isn't vim 7 due out soon?10:33
d2dchatdo you use vim via terminal?10:33
wsmithbz0b, dpkg --install <file>10:33
aeruderwsmith: yea, looks like they have some neat stuff10:33
Efwisanyone got a good way to install Ubuntu on the same hdd as Windows for a newbie?? helping a friend get it installed via chat10:33
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bz0bk thats what i asked10:33
bz0bk thx10:33
aeruderd2dchat: there are some graphical vim's too...10:33
aeruderd2dchat: but they are similar enough that if you learn the console one you can use the gtk or windows based ones in the same way10:34
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d2dchataeruder, what would you recommend for  ahard core coder?10:34
Wanderer___I need to change the screen resolution. Ubuntu appears to have only one resolution. Where are the others? I go to where it's *supposed * to be, but the menu only contains one resolution anfd refresh rate.10:34
bz0bI like vim in the terminal just how it is10:34
wsmithaeruder, like more autocommands (finally)10:34
aeruderd2dchat: well, i personally would recommend vim, but if you really want to be a hardcore code10:34
aeruderr10:34
aeruderd2dchat: pick emacs or vim10:34
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wsmithWanderer___, try CTRL-ALT-+ ?10:34
d2dchataeruder, I am a hard core coder;) im just wondering if i should install the gnome part of vim10:34
funkyHataeruder, very diplomatic ;)10:34
aeruderd2dchat: install the gnome one10:35
aeruderd2dchat: because to start with gnome, you do vim -g10:35
aeruderd2dchat: otherwise it will just be a console program10:35
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d2dchataeruder, console aint always bad;)10:35
aeruderfunkyHat: yea, i know better than to say straight out vim or emacs ;)10:35
Wanderer___You mean CTRL+ ALT+ +?10:35
funkyHatWanderer___, yes10:35
aeruderd2dchat: no, it is not, i do about 80% of my vim'ing in console and when i'm working on large projects i do it with the graphical because i have a theme which is rather nice on the eyes10:35
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Hellevatorwhere are the settings for the wireless nic?10:36
aeruderd2dchat: and the console vim doesn't have full infinite color support obviously10:36
d2dchataeruder, haha gotcha, guess it wouldnt hurt, ive got 80 gigs to use up10:36
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boogerdoes any body know of a app that is easy to use for converting avi files to vcd ??10:36
aeruderd2dchat: if you need some help getting vim initially configured and you want to try it, give me a msg, i'll help you out10:36
wsmithd2dchat, have you seen the size of emacs lately?10:36
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aeruderwsmith: heh10:37
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aeruderd2dchat: but seriously, the greatest thing about vim and emacs is they are horribly configurable, and they are available everywhere10:37
Lassed2dchat, try this guide for learning vi: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vi-guide.xml10:37
Hellevatorhow do I edit the settings for my wireless nic in unbuntu?10:37
Bjorn`Foodhardw1re, thanks10:37
aeruderi copy my config and use it on windows and linux and os x ;)10:37
Bjorn`FoodI hope they will put out a stable release soon10:37
oceandeadman iwconfig10:38
Bjorn`Foodanybody knows if cedega works ?10:38
hardw1reyep10:38
hardw1rei use it for steam10:38
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slyi have a quick questions then10:38
WodanTJHi! I'm wondering if theres a setup-script that upgrades from server to desktop? I'm installing ubuntu on a laptop with ethernet and then i take the hdd and put it in another laptop to finish the installation (having a wificard only on that one so i'll go for the rest of the installation from there)10:38
Bjorn`Foodhardw1re,10:38
Bjorn`Fooddid you pay for it Oo10:38
hardw1reyup10:38
slyhardwlre whats the command line arguments to start in say a 800x600 window ?10:38
hardw1re40 / year10:38
hardw1rei dont know10:39
hardw1reare you using point2play sly?10:39
boogerdoes any body know of a app that is easy to use for converting avi files to vcd ??10:39
hardw1recause i have no problems with full screen mode10:39
bimberiWodanTJ: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:39
KumasanI have a bug I'd like to report, but don't know wher, (or what package) to report it for, it's NFS related, if that makes a difference. I have only verified it with two Hoary systems. If I have machine A, with a /pub directory (one partition) and a /pub/foo directory (which is a different partition) when I mount /pub on machine B, df will show available space of /pub without including the space available on /pub/foo. Any suggestions on10:39
Kumasanwhere to report this bug?10:39
WodanTJbimberi: thanks!10:39
bimberiWodanTJ: yvw10:39
Hellevatorbugzilla?10:39
slywell erm. lets say i didnt pay for point2play........ and its gonna all screwy and dishs out errors when i click install10:39
funkyHathas anyone successfully installed a creative webcam instant (or any creative webcam)?10:39
bimberi:)10:39
funkyHati'd like some pointers in the right direction :)10:39
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KumasanHellevator: but for what package? nfs server? or client?10:40
Hellevatorclient is guess10:40
hardw1resly: thats cause your using cvs right?10:40
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Bjorn`FoodSomebody asked me this midday if i got my microphone to work under ubuntu10:40
slynot exactly =\ , ;)10:40
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d2dchatwhat is firefox under in the spm?10:40
Bjorn`Foodthe answer is yes !10:40
Kumasanwell, If that isn't right, I am sure they will point me elsewhere :) I'll try that.10:40
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WodanTJbimberi: do you think there will be any problems with other stuff when doing it like this? (both intel, installputer = intel centrino and realputergoingtohaveit = intel p210:41
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boogerplease ??10:41
boogerplease ??10:41
hardw1retbh i cant wait for the full release of breezy, cause it seems to have alot of improvments for the  x86_64 system10:41
funkyHatd2dchat, mozilla-firefox10:41
boogerdoes any body know of a app that is easy to use for converting avi files to vcd ??10:41
d2dchatnvm found it10:41
d2dchatty tho:)10:41
funkyHat:)10:41
aeruderbooger: there are some vcd making programs that use mpg's10:42
mustafuif K3B is used in KDE, what is commonly used in GNOME?  For Cd-writing software, that is10:42
aeruderbooger: you can use mencoder to convert a .avi to .mpg10:42
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aeruderhowever the particular command line options to mencoder are left as an exercise to you ;)10:42
hardw1rehmm, im trying to get apt-cache search to output all the available packages into a text file, any ideas?10:42
boogeris it easy to use ?? still a noob10:42
oceandeadthere are lots of different ones mustafu, i use gnomebaker10:42
d2dchatcan anyone figure out why my wireless isnt working?10:43
aeruderhardw1re: apt-cache search . > packagelist.txt or something like that might do it :)10:43
bimberiWodanTJ: hard to say - there is hardware identification done during the server install and the hardware is different - if it's the only way you can install it's worth a try tho :)10:43
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d2dchatI have a wireless network card, and it picks up networks under windows xp, but when i type iwconfig I get->10:43
WodanTJbimberi: yeah i know..10:43
aeruderbooger: not sure, might try vcdtools and/or vcdimager10:43
d2dchatlo, eth0 and sit0 all saying 'no wireless extentions'10:43
bimberimustafu: nautilus, gnomebaker, graveman10:43
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WodanTJbimberi: but i guess it only puts stuff in the modules-file for me to change it to the right modules, dont you think?10:44
hardw1re:D10:44
aeruderbooger: and then start reading in /usr/share/doc/vcdtools /usr/share/doc/vcdimager10:44
hardw1renow i can view all packages for this :D10:44
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oceandeadd2dchat try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards to see if your card is supported10:44
boogerok i'll play with them thanx10:44
kammehello, I've got a little problem, every time some screensaver kicks in, it freezes my whole system, ctrl-alt-del and ctrl-alt backspace don't work or anything... is there anything I can do to solve that?10:45
aeruderkamme: gl screensaver?10:45
amonkey_are there any trivia channels on freenode10:45
oceandeadif it isn't supported out of the box, you can look for a linux driver module for it or just use ndiswrapper along with the windoze drivers for it10:45
kammeaeruder: I think so, I'm not sure and I can't look because it freezes on me10:45
bimberiWodanTJ: sorry, its really outside the limit of my knowledge, but i'd imagine that the kernel is generic and that the differences between hardware is achieved with the choice of modules10:46
aeruderkamme: xscreensaver-demo10:46
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aeruderkamme: try a non gl one, it is possible gl support is just messed up?10:46
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aeruder(can you run glxgears for example? )10:46
bimberiWodanTJ: generic after processor family (i386, amd64...) that is :)10:46
WodanTJbimberi: yeah should be like that when running i386 kernel10:46
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oceandeadaeruder, ever find your xeyes?10:46
WodanTJbimberi: aye10:46
aeruderoceandead: nope *grumble*10:46
d2dchatoceandead, how do i know which one is mine? I know its a linksys but im not exactly sure which model10:46
aeruderlspci is sometimes useful if it shows up as a pci device d2dchat10:47
oceandeadd2dchat do an lspci10:47
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kammeaeruder: I didn't change anything with the gl stuff... But the problem is, I can't even change the screensaver, even the screensaver option program freezes everything...10:47
d2dchat0000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01)10:47
d2dchat?10:47
ninjafishhow come all binary distros are compiled for 386, why not compile a 686 version too?10:47
aeruderkamme: hard locks the entire system?10:47
aeruderkamme: can you still ssh in ?10:47
oceandeadd2dchat are you on hoary or breezy?10:47
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kammeaeruder: yup10:47
d2dchatim not sure, how do i find out?10:48
kammeaeruder: didn't try that, but my guess is no10:48
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kammeaeruder: since even my wlan card stops blinking10:48
aeruderd2dchat: did you just download a hoary install cd ?10:48
aeruderkamme: eek10:48
oceandeadyoure probably on hoary10:48
JohnP789I let Synaptic update my kernel, and now my system won't boot Ubuntu.10:48
aeruderd2dchat: if you weren't on hoary, i'd hope you'd know :)10:48
kammeaeruder: tell me about it...10:48
oceandeadthere are linux driver modules available for the rt2500 on sourceforge10:48
Bjorn`FoodIf anybody got wine working under a amd64 hoary say it10:48
Bjorn`Food:D10:48
JohnP789I get a kernel panic when it tries to pivot root.10:48
aeruderJohnP789 have the text somewhere?10:49
aeruder!paste10:49
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:49
d2dchataeruder, I downloaded ubuntu 5.04 from the ubuntu website10:49
d2dchatthe iso file10:49
oceandeadthats hoary10:49
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d2dchatand i installed it witha  boot disk10:49
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d2dchatok lol10:49
aeruderJohnP789 try pasting output there if you can (or write it down)10:49
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JohnP789aeruder, I'd have to reboot and write it down.10:50
oceandeadd2dchat try http://rt2500.sourceforge.net    <-im not sure about the link10:50
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halHello all10:50
Bjorn`FoodIf anybody got wine working under a amd64 hoary say it10:50
TEG`hi i have a problem with installing NFORCE drivers, he doenst seem to find the right kernel10:50
aeruderJohnP789 : i think you'd have a hard tiem finding out what is wrong if you didn't at least write down the error message10:50
JohnP789aeruder, I think initrd isn't being found.10:50
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aeruderJohnP789: you probably don't need the dump information10:50
kammeanother question, what does ubuntu-desktop do?10:50
aeruder(registers and stacktrace, etc.)10:50
aeruderkamme: it is just a package that depends on all the other packages needed for a full system10:51
oceandeadd2dchat on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards page there is a link to a how to with rt250010:51
Bjorn`FoodTEG`,10:51
Bjorn`Foodyo10:51
TEG`yo10:51
Bjorn`Foodik ben liquidfire10:51
Bjorn`Food:D10:51
Bjorn`Food:p10:51
TEG`?10:51
TEG`vanwaar?10:51
Bjorn`Foodinspire`Liquidfire10:51
aeruderkamme: apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop10:51
GoClickWhat's an acceptable GUI for Samba config? preferably one I can install using Synaptic10:51
Bjorn`Foodcssr10:51
Bjorn`FoodOo10:51
bimberikamme: it's a meta-package that is dependant on lots of packages considered to be a good setup for a desktop10:51
aeruderkamme: and look at the depends field10:51
TEG`ah :)10:51
kammeaeruder: so it can be removed? (that way I can remove xscreensaver-gl too10:51
aeruderkamme: you could also just disable xscreensaver you know ;)10:51
aeruderkamme: sure, remove it10:51
JohnP789aeruder, I realize I'm not giving enough to go on.  I thought maybe it'd be some infamous bug people would recognize right off.10:51
JohnP789:-)10:51
kammeokeej10:51
bimberikamme: yes10:51
aeruderkamme: it is just a meta package that pulls in the rest10:51
d2dchathow is my wireless network card an rt2500 when it is a linksys??10:51
TEG`kunde gij mij niet helpen met men nforce drivers ? bjorn10:51
morbidihello10:52
aeruderkamme: if you remove it, all the ones it brought in stay around :)10:52
oceandeadrt2500 is the chipset10:52
halanyone ever tried to build a kernel package with software suspend2 ?10:52
kammethanks, I'll do that and hope it'll help :)10:52
ninjafishsamba-config10:52
aeruderd2dchat: that's just how it works10:52
morbididoes anyone knows how to open in firefox a link with a middle click?10:52
morbidiwhat do I have to setup in xorg.conf10:52
kammeok, trying the option dialog now ;)10:52
d2dchataeruder, I dont see any linksys's on that page that are rt2500s10:52
GoClickninjafish I don't see it in the list10:53
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TEG`hi i have a problem with installing NFORCE drivers, he doenst seem to find the right kernel??10:53
halmorbidi, you try to paste an url in firefox, right ?10:53
kammeaeruder: that solved it.. so if anyone has the same problem you know what to do :)10:53
oceandeadlook for the rt2500 link10:53
pauldaoustcrimsun: wow, you're here again! (you're not a dev or admin any chance?)10:53
kammethank you aeruder and bimberi10:53
bimberikamme: yw :)10:53
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GoClickninjafish, I added a share by going to system>administration>shared folders and that seems ok but now I've got nothing to configure users with, I tried to connect from my windows box and it asked for a username and password so I put in my Ubuntu ones and it didn't work :/ also I need some config abilities10:54
TEG`Hi I have a problems with installing NFORCE drivers, he doenst seem to find the right kernel, can any1 help me?10:54
dcravend2dchat: Linksys is the card manufacture, rt2500 is probably the chipset they use.10:54
ninjafishGoClick - hmm I was thinking of another distro10:54
d2dchatah, gotcha10:54
GoClickninjafish totally ok10:54
pauldaousthey, has any one experienced weird, slow, drawn-out sound in Ubuntu?10:55
d2dchatdcraven, thank you for that clarification:)10:55
dcravend2dchat: np10:55
oceandeadyep for instance i use a dwl-650 - chipset is an RTL8180L - frontend is a Phillips sa-240010:55
GoClickKnow of a Samba config GUI anyone?10:55
topylipauldaoust: yes, i listen to that kind of music at work :)10:55
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pauldaoustGoClick: There's SWAT, a web-based GUI10:55
GoClickSWAT isn't very good :(10:55
aeruderGoClick: i usually just do it by hand ;)10:55
pauldaousttopyli: har har har10:55
WodanTJoceandead: uh i'm about to install a dwl-650+ :) (those are acx100)10:55
Scrawny1ok I've been through all the backports, been through all the arcives and I still can't find an upgrade for x-chat to 2.4.410:56
TEG`need help with nforce drivers pm me pls10:56
pauldaousttopyli: where do you work?10:56
pauldaoustas in, everything (MP3s, WAVs, etc) is about three or four times slower than it should be.10:56
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topyliGoClick: webmin has a pretty good samba tool too10:56
oceandeadwodanTJ, your dwl-650 plus is10:56
GoClickaeruder I don't mind doing that myself actually but my boss needs to be able to do this too and he's not as techiue10:56
topylipauldaoust: the university10:56
WodanTJoceandead: yeah and dwl-650 are like prism? some of  them anyways?10:56
aeruderGoClick: oh, don't know what to tell you then10:56
oceandeadmy dwl-650 v.M1 is an rtl8180l10:56
GoClickI'm not really looking for a web based one10:56
amonkey_hey10:56
amonkey_Seveas, are you here?10:56
GoClickWhat does Fedora use?10:56
topyliGoClick: well, that's all you get :)10:56
oceandeadsome of them yes....different hardware revisions of the dwl-650 use different chipsets10:56
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ninjafishGoClick, it's fedora that has samba-config10:57
Nitrousinacanwhat is the ubuntu archive url?10:57
Scrawny1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu10:57
TEG`Can Anyone help me with nforce drivers out here?10:57
dcravenpackages.ubuntu.com10:57
GoClickThat's too bad cause I tried Core4 on this machine and the sound didn't work and it couldn't play DVDs :/10:57
Seveasamonkey, you're in luck - just back :)10:58
aeruderTEG`: try being a little more clear what is wrong, and pasting some stuff  (like errors you are getting, etc..) on the paste site and pointing people to the url10:58
aeruder!paste10:58
uboturumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:58
amonkey_mym audio card supports mixing(at least in windows it did) and now ubuntu can't polay more than oen thing at a time. how do i fix this?10:58
aeruderTEG`: you'll find you will get much more help if you do as much work on your end as you can ;)10:59
Seveasamonkey_, use dmix or esd :)10:59
urbanDoes anyone know what is happening with http://www.ubuntuguide.org/?  I have tried many times over the last 3 weeks to connect and allways get a timeout ....10:59
Scrawny1Seveas?10:59
Seveasubuntu uses esd by default10:59
ninjafishGoClick, have you tried looking on the samba pages to see if they have an IRC channel10:59
aeruderamonkey_: windows does software mixing ;)10:59
LinuxJonesGoClick, have a look at this >> http://ksambakdeplugin.sourceforge.net/10:59
SeveasScrawny1, ?10:59
amonkey_aeruder, i did not know that10:59
Scrawny1can I talk to ya' a quick sec? :)10:59
Seveassure10:59
pauldaoustsoooooo... nobody with incredibly slow sound?10:59
TEG`He doenst find the right source kernel to install the driver , then the installtion shuts down10:59
aeruderamonkey_: not many cards have many channels of hardware mixing capabilities11:00
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halTEG`, have you installed the sources of your krenel ?11:00
halkernel11:00
amonkey_Seveas, as far as i know, i did that. is this an accurate guide to do it:http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Allow_multiple_programs_to_play_sound_at_once11:00
oceandeadi used the happy esd and alsa thread on the forums, also have sox as well11:00
TEG`the r command i did11:00
SeveasTEG`, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:00
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TEG`i did that11:00
TEG`still doenst work11:00
AntiKrisHowdy11:00
Seveasamonkey_, ubuntu isn't archlinux...11:01
aeruderTEG`: and kernel-source-$(uname -r)11:01
halTEG`, what is the *exact* error message ?11:01
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AntiKrisSorry, I'm not really an IRCer, so if I'm talking out of turn, please excuse me...11:01
SeveasAntiKris, welcome :)11:02
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aeruderAntiKris: there aren't turns, you'll fidn that irc'ers are the best multitasker talkers in the world ;)11:02
TEG`ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' rpm installed. If you know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the '--kernel-source-path'commandline option. <ok>11:02
amonkeySeveas, where can i find the relevent guide for ubuntu (Looking myself right now)11:02
Seveaswe don;t take turns here, everybody talks whenever he wants :)11:02
bimberiAntiKris: it's find - particularly if you're using ubuntu :)11:02
AntiKrisCool! ;'D11:02
bimberi*fine11:02
amonkeySeveas, i think i found it nm11:02
aeruderTEG`: did you install kernel-source- like i said above?11:02
Seveasamonkey, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary is nice11:02
Bjorn`FoodAntiKris, so join the club and chat away11:02
TEG`no ill try it first11:02
Bjorn`Foodyou need to give us cake tough :p11:02
Seveasamonkey, wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems may help too11:02
aeruderTEG`: because you need the full kernel source to build drivers11:02
Wanderer___The reason I need to change the resolution is because I can't see any of the text present on the Log-In screen. It's ridiculusly small. Also, the windows are huge and unwieldly, and don't resize themselves to the taskbar at all. When I attempt to do a manual resize, it won't let me 90% of the time.11:03
Bjorn`Foodamonkey, whats your problem ?11:03
Bjorn`FoodI had some problems with sound too11:03
AntiKrisI'm trying install Ubuntu on a separate disk--but the install prog doesn't give me that option11:03
halTEG`, you should follow aeruder 's advice, I don't think you've installed the source packaged... Way better than original kernel source tree for the distro11:03
amonkeyBjorn`Food, only one sound at a time after i move from onboard audio to a pci card11:03
AntiKrisI believe it's because the disk I want to install to is on a separate controller11:03
SeveasAntiKris, in the manual partitioner it should give you the option to sepcify which disks to use11:03
Bjorn`Foodmaybe you should disable your onboard sound in the bios11:03
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aeruderTEG`: sudo apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r`11:03
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TEG`ye thx ill try that11:04
Bjorn`Foodso that he only picks the pci card11:04
AntiKrisYeah, I figured it would--but it doesn't see the other disks.  I'm wondering if there's some sort of F6 equivalent I'm supposed to be doing11:04
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SeveasAntiKris, what kind of controller is it?11:05
amonkeySeveas, after i saved my esd.conf it showed this error in console: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave11:05
AntiKrisI've got one of those new p5WD2 mbs from ASUS...  after lapping my heatsink today, I thought I'd go for an encore and figure out linux in, oh, about 3 hours time.11:05
AntiKrisThe controller is an IT821111:06
oceandeadhehehe11:06
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AntiKrisIn bios, it sees the SATA disk as one of the IDE options, but doesn't want to play nicely with the old Maxtor one I've got lurking on the IDE component of the board... am I screwed?11:07
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SeveasAntiKris, hmm, try whether the installer sees the SATA when you don't have the IDE plugged in11:08
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emiliohello people how do i can enter in the java of canal11:08
aeruderemilio: /join ##java11:08
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emiliosorry mi englis is bad11:08
emiliook thank you11:09
Daehliewhat language11:09
Daehliethere are multiple11:09
emilioi speak spanish11:09
aeruderemilio: /join #ubuntu-es perhaps11:09
Seveasemilio, #ubuntu-es es la canal espanol11:09
Seveas(my spanish is terrible)11:09
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leonelwhoot   Just upgraded from hoary to  breezy and .. No gnome panel or metacity running after login11:09
emiliook11:09
AntiKrisWell, seeing the SATA isn't the problem--it sees both hard disks, when it boots up to Windows...  I've just got the feeling that it picks up the IDE somewhere along the way to booting XP, but doesn't get there yet when running the install11:09
Cuatecowenazzzzz11:09
AntiKris(for linux)11:09
emiliothank you11:09
aeruderleonel: lots of stuff is still borked :)11:09
oceandeadleonel, i had the same problem11:10
oceandeadfresh install fixed it11:10
oceandeadhehehe11:10
SeveasAntiKris, hmm, maybe it needs a newer driver oslt, have you tried running a live CD or a breezy install CD?11:10
aeruderoceandead: i'm kinda up and going11:10
aeruderminus all the packages that haven't been updated for libcairo211:10
aeruder(like gaim, but i just compiled my own)11:10
oceandeadyou got everything all sorted aeruder?11:10
leonelwell installed hoary   and  move to breezy11:10
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aeruderoceandead: yeap, took a bit of tweaking11:10
oceandeadnice!11:10
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aeruderoceandead: there were several changes needed to /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:11
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AntiKrisI just downloaded the liveDVD yesterday, so it's brand spanking11:11
bz0bcan someone tell me the command i think its an apt-get cause im trying to make && make install my wireless drivers, but it says KERNELPATH must be defined11:11
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samuisnt there another channel for people who are too eager and want to complain about something in breezy that doesnt work for them? :)11:11
aeruderkeyboard driver => kbd, /usr/lib/X11/font all needs to be /usr/share/X11/font...11:11
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oceandeadi tried but didnt want to spend too much time on it - got some testing yet to do for laptop11:11
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|Gorre|ZzZCan anyone tell me a basic system specs I should aim for using Ubuntu/Kubuntu?11:12
bz0bbob2, can you hep me?11:12
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aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: a p2 366 w/ 64 megs of ram ;)11:12
|Gorre|ZzZIm new to linux, and want to try it out, but on a spare Pentium 211:12
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aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: you don't need much to run linux11:12
tokenhi there11:12
|Gorre|ZzZMarvellous :P11:12
|Gorre|ZzZThanks11:12
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: my old linux machine was a celeron 366 w/ 64 megs of ram11:12
bz0bbob2, im trying to make my wireless drivers and i get an error root@bz0b:/usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20050814# make && make install11:12
bz0bMakefile.inc:94: *** KERNELPATH must be defined.  Stop.11:12
aeruderof course, it was debian, but.. yea, it'll be slow on some stuff( like openoffice )11:12
|Gorre|ZzZNo worries then :P11:13
oceandeadgnome will be a bit slow on 64mb ram, might want to try xfce or fluxbox on that11:13
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: but it is more than enough to run X and lots of apps11:13
|Gorre|ZzZI have like, 190~ RAM in my P2 machine, so I should be okay11:13
|Gorre|ZzZBut I think it's a 26611:13
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: heck, i couldeven play quake 2 and quake 3 with a nvidia card ;)11:13
tokencould I ask how do you change your charset on whole system?  I have Iso-8859-1 and I need to have Iso-8859-2 or UTF11:13
tokenis there a way?11:13
tokenthank you11:13
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: yea, you'll be more than good11:13
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tokengo for fluxbox11:13
tokenor blackbox11:13
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aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: yes, don't use kde or gnome, that will make it feel much slower11:14
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tokenI recommend fluxbox as I run it on my old laptop and it runs just fine11:14
|Gorre|ZzZSo use a command line thingy?11:14
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: xfce is faster, but i'd recommend fluxbox or blackbox, they'll make it fly11:14
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: or even windowmaker11:14
oceandead<- k6-2 @ 400mhz, 192mb ram can run gnome but xfce is better for me and i like it better than fluxbox11:14
|Gorre|ZzZAh right11:14
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topyli|Gorre|ZzZ: RAM is what counts, not the cpu really, and you should be ok. if gnome is slow, use xfce or something light11:14
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: no, you can use X-windows, just don't use kde and gnome desktops if you can help it11:14
|Gorre|ZzZAh right11:14
tokencould I ask how do you change your charset on whole system?  I have Iso-8859-1 and I need to have Iso-8859-2 or UTF11:14
|Gorre|ZzZWell, I havent even touched linux before, so what do you think would be best?11:15
oceandeadxfce11:15
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topylitoken: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales11:15
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: if xfce runs well enough, try it11:15
FunnyLookinHatis there an INSTALL CD command to boot to install 2.6 instead of 2.4 or shoudl IJust hit enter?11:15
vitriolif i build my own kernel from vanilla sources will it work? or do i need to do some special tricks?11:15
|Gorre|ZzZI'll give it a shot, ta.11:15
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: otherwise try windowmaker or blackbox or something11:15
FlonneFunnyLookinHat, Ubuntu only has 2.6.11:15
|Gorre|ZzZI think I'll stay around here too though, just incase :P11:15
aeruder|Gorre|ZzZ: there's plenty of window managers that will run great on that machine11:15
AntiKrisWell, thanks folks--I'm going to check out some bios forums!  Later!11:15
haltoken, dpkg-reconfigure locales11:16
aerudervitriol: you don't need special tricks11:16
tokentyopyli, hal: thank you11:16
|Gorre|ZzZThis is gonna seem like a silly question11:16
vitriolaeruder: hello again )11:16
|Gorre|ZzZBut how would I install a new desktop thingy?11:16
vitriol:)11:16
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vitriolaeruder: i'm building the kernel right now11:16
aerudervitriol: just make sure you get that ide and filesystem driver in ;) (and of course the other hardware stuff as modules or built in)11:16
vitriolaeruder: just afraid it won't boot, that's all11:16
Wanderer___Do I need to change the screen resolution?  Because I can't see any of the text present on the Log-In screen. It's ridiculusly small. Also, the windows are huge and unwieldly, and don't resize themselves to the taskbar at all. When I attempt to do a manual resize, it won't let me 90% of the time.11:16
|Gorre|ZzZJust stick in the disk I burned it to after installing Ubuntu?11:16
aerudervitriol: keep your old kernel around11:16
vitriolaeruder: when i tried this on debian it didn't work11:16
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aerudervitriol: building kernels is an art, you get better at it each time11:16
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aerudervitriol: it used to take me several tries to get it right ;)11:17
aerudervitriol: you built ide and fs drivers INTO the kernel?11:17
vitriolaeruder: the problem on debian was just that there was no initrd11:17
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vitriolaeruder: thats right11:17
Wanderer___Do I need to change the screen resolution?  Because I can't see any of the text present on the Log-In screen. It's ridiculusly small. Also, the windows are huge and unwieldly, and don't resize themselves to the taskbar at all. When I attempt to do a manual resize, it won't let me 90% of the time.11:17
aerudervitriol: ok, you don't need a initrd then11:17
oceandeadgo into synaptic and look for it - or   sudo apt-get install xfce4       for xfce11:17
vitriolwonderful11:17
aerudervitriol: does your grub line have a root=/dev/blah11:17
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halanyone tried the software suspend on an Ubuntu kernel here ?11:17
aerudervitriol: or something like root=LABEL=/11:17
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oceandeadthen you can log out and log in - click sessions, and choose xfce session11:17
oceandeadbefore you login that is11:18
vitriolaeruder:11:18
vitrioloops11:18
rickityhow does one mount a usb harddrive? how does one configure hotplug to automatically mount a usb mass storage device?11:18
aeruderWanderer___: paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:18
aeruder!paste11:18
ubotuhmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text11:18
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GoClickDo you guys figure it would be possible to use the samba configuration gui thing from Fedora on Ubuntu?11:18
vitriolkernel          /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro console=tty0 quiet splash11:18
aeruderrickity: i usually just plug it in and mount the /dev/sda# entries that show up ;)11:18
vitriolaeruder: ^11:18
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aerudervitriol: yep, you will not need an initrd, get rid of the splash and quiet lines tho11:19
vitriolgreat!11:19
Wanderer___Where would I find that file?11:19
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vitriolaeruder: thanks for the tip11:19
aeruderWanderer___: i just told you /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:19
aeruderpaste the contents of that file into the website given by the bot11:19
ricktany pointers on how to change a deb file to change the dependencies.  it seems that some packages need to refer to libcairo2 now.  i'd rather just build from source if i have to wait. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58451&highlight=vim-gnome11:19
Wanderer___In which OS? Ubuntu, Windows?11:19
JohnP789OK, I've rebooted and copied down some messages leading up to my kernel panic.11:19
aeruderWanderer___: ubuntu11:19
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rickityaeruder, what if no /dev/sda# appears?11:20
JohnP789They're going in the pastebin.11:20
aeruderWanderer___: your windows logs will do no good here ;)11:20
aeruderrickity: run dmesg and see if it found anything11:20
aeruderJohnP789: good11:20
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Wanderer___I can't! I can't connect to the net from Ubuntu (don't know how).11:20
somedude_Hey!11:20
somedude_remember me? ;)11:20
somedude_well anyways..11:20
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aeruderWanderer___: wireless or wired?11:21
JohnP789I'm thinking it's some kind of LVM problem.  My root is on an LVM logical volume, but that volume group is not showing up on boot.11:21
Wanderer___Wired dail-up.11:21
aeruderWanderer___: ah11:21
LiquidfireIs there a sort of control panel for nvidia cards in linux as there is in windows ?11:21
aeruderWanderer___: i don't know what they use now for ppp stuff11:21
aeruderLiquidfire: nvidia-settings11:21
aeruderLiquidfire: you may need the package installed ;)11:21
d2dchatWhere is the php4-mysql apt?11:21
somedude_i want to ssh to my ubuntu installation! Wheer do i eneable that?? in slackware i enabled it by copying rc.sshd to my  /etc/rc.d/ folder.. how do i do that with UBUNTU?11:21
Liquidfireaeruder,  where and how :)11:22
rickityaeruder, lsusb shows its connected: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1006:3004 iRiver, Ltd.11:22
d2dchati tried running->11:22
Liquidfirei didn't update it via the syn thingy11:22
d2dchatapt-get install php4-mysql11:22
d2dchatbut it couldnt find the package11:22
bimberisomedude_: install openssh-server11:22
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Liquidfirebecause i would get a blackscreen11:22
JohnP789Anybody have any ideas how to fix this?11:22
halsomedude_, tou first need to install the sshd package11:22
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halsomedude_, sudo apt-get install ssh11:22
somedude_ok, how?.. an easy way?11:22
somedude_ok hal, thanks!11:22
somedude_after that its ok?11:23
halsomedude_, then it should work11:23
somedude_sweet11:23
somedude_many thanks11:23
somedude_brb ;)11:23
aeruderLiquidfire: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings11:23
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Liquidfireah lol the - did it11:23
Liquidfire:D11:24
Liquidfirei tried nvidiasettings11:24
rickityanyone know how to mount a usb mass storage device given the information from lsusb:  Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1006:3004 iRiver, Ltd.11:24
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GratLiquidfire: next time use apt-cache search to search for packets :>11:24
Wanderer___BTW, is it a bad sign if windows checks your C-Disk for integrity, then applies corrections to it? I had just installed Ubuntu. I then logged out, and switched to windows. Then it said that. When it loaded the desktop, it also said it was finished installing new hardware and needed to reboot. WTF?11:24
LiquidfireGrat, oke11:24
Liquidfire:)11:24
bimberid2dchat: php4-mysql is in the universe repository11:24
bimberi!repos11:24
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96911:24
Liquidfireand what if i installed it11:24
Liquidfirehow do i launch it ?11:24
aeruderLiquidfire: run nvidia-settings11:24
hardw1re!nvidia11:25
ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2911:25
aeruderwith your favorite friend the terminal11:25
Wanderer___aeruder?11:25
Liquidfireaeruder, i know via the terminal11:25
Liquidfirebut what command11:25
rickityanyone know how to mount a usb mass storage device given the information from lsusb:  Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1006:3004 iRiver, Ltd.11:25
Liquidfire=/11:25
aeruderWanderer___: windows is fscked up, that's all i can say about that ;)11:25
JohnP789I posted an amendment in pastebin.  My LVM setup seems OK over in FC3 on this machine.11:25
d2dchatbimberi, how do i access that?11:26
aeruderWanderer___: you need to get that file, or get connected in linux11:26
bimberid2dchat: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:26
aeruderWanderer___: it is going to be nearly impossible to get help when you have to reboot to do it11:26
aeruderWanderer___: so find an ubuntu guide for dialup (www.google.com is your friend) figure that uot first11:26
rickityanyone have a good link on how exactly the whole usb mass storage detection and mounting works in ubuntu?11:26
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aeruderget into linux on the inet, then figure out the screen res :)11:26
aeruderrickity: usually dmesg prints out where it is putting it11:27
aeruder(like sda, sdb, etc...)11:27
JohnP789aeruder, Would you have any suggestions?11:27
BTJusticeI had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?11:27
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somedude_hal, it worked perfectly! THANKS!!!!!!!11:28
hardw1rehey, i reconfigured my xorg earlier11:28
aeruder!paste11:28
ubotuI heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text11:28
aeruderJohnP789: one sec11:28
hardw1reand nvidia now has this option in it: Option"UseFBDev""true"11:28
hardw1reanyone know what that is?11:28
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halsomedude_, great then ;-)11:28
aeruderJohnP789: my initial guess would be corrupted initrd11:28
rickityaeruder does hotplug do it automatically?11:28
aeruderJohnP789: use the old kernel or compile your  own11:29
topylihardw1re: it's the framebuffer device, for prettier console and higher console resolutions11:29
rickityaeruder, does hotplug automatically detect and assign a /dev/sda# for a usb device?11:29
aeruderJohnP789: there have been plenty of people with kernel problems the last couple days11:29
aeruderrickity: well, a combination of hotplug and udev, yes11:29
JohnP789aeruder, There's no old kernel in /boot, unfortunately.11:29
aeruderJohnP789: got a rescue cd?11:29
aeruderJohnP789: even a knoppix cd can be used as a recuse cd11:29
bimberiWanderer___: dialup config is at System -> Administration -> Networking.  This assumes your modem is working (which can be an issue if it's a "winmodem").  To reconfigure resolution try logging at a virtual console (<ctrl><alt>F2), logging in and typing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"11:29
JohnP789aeruder, Ubuntu Live.11:29
aeruderJohnP789: and compile a new kernel11:30
aeruderJohnP789: ok, well boot to that11:30
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aerudermount your root fs somewhere11:30
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aerudermount -o bind /dev /whre/your/root/is/dev11:30
somedude_hal, yupp! in slack i had a command "smb-client" anything like that in UBUNTU?11:30
aerudermount -o bind /proc /where/your/root/is/proc11:30
rickityaeruder is there a way I can force hotplug/udev to check for new usb devs and mount them?11:30
aerudercd /where/your/root/is11:30
aeruderchroot .11:30
aerudersu -11:30
halsomedude_, smbclient ?11:30
somedude_yeah11:30
somedude_for mounting win shares11:30
hardw1reok, topyli does that effect things like cedega?11:30
halsomedude_, sudo apt-get install smbclient11:31
somedude_u rule hal!! :)11:31
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aeruderrickity: uh, well, shouldn't need to11:31
BTJusticeI had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?11:31
aeruderrickity: if you see nothing in dmesg output about it11:31
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aeruderrickity: (you can feel free to unplug/plug and check)11:31
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bimberisomedude_: you probably already have it - smbclient is part of the basic desktop install11:31
LiquidfireBTJustice,  you need to set alsamixer11:31
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aeruderrickity: usually that is bad, because i know the mass storage stuff used to spam junk all over with kernel messages :)11:32
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somedude_hal, if i want to update a package from the internet, is there a special command? Now it installs from the cdrom11:32
halsomedude_, you can use the following command when you search a package: "apt-cache search smbclient" for example (without the " of course)11:32
JohnP789aeruder, Can I just do an apt-get upgrade on my kernel package once I've chrooted?11:32
Ice9can anybody tell me why dvd playback is choppy? I have dma enabled, and I've tried several players.11:32
BTJusticeLiquidfire: If I type 'alsamixer' I get nothing.11:32
rickityaeruder, i guess I'm not sure what to look for in dmesg11:32
somedude_and i did a server install11:32
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Liquidfireopen your terminal BTJustice and type alsamixer11:32
Liquidfirehuh :o11:32
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aeruderJohnP789: yes, if you get chroot'd (and mount your dev and proc int there first)11:32
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Liquidfiretry alsamixer -c 111:32
bimberisomedude_: ok :) have another!11:32
aeruderJohnP789: you should be able to manage getting a more or less full ubuntu system inside of knoppix sorta ;)11:32
BTJusticeLiguidfire:  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory11:33
topylihardw1re: i don't think so, it shouldn't interfere with X11:33
aeruderJohnP789: i do this a lot to do development on several different distros11:33
Liquidfirewierd11:33
JohnP789aeruder, OK, I'll give that a try.  (I'll boot from my Ubuntu Live CD.  My install is x86_64, so I'd think Knoppix would be a problem.)11:33
somedude_bimberi, haha.. im home now.. no more whiskey here! ;)11:33
aeruderrickity: i don't have a usb mass storage to mess around with... :-/11:33
aeruderrickity: eh, one sec11:33
bimberisomedude_: :)11:33
somedude_=)11:33
chrissturmdoes beagle in breezy index openoffice files=11:34
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LiquidfireBTJustice,11:34
rickityaeruder, thanks a 10^611:34
Liquidfiretry this wiki11:34
d2dchatconcerning the configuration of apache, what is my groupname?11:34
BTJusticeLiquidfire: Yes?11:34
d2dchatmy server name?11:34
Liquidfirehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary11:34
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patriciaHi11:34
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WodanTJpatricia: Hi11:34
Ice9can anybody tell me why dvd playback is choppy? I have dma enabled, and I've tried several players.11:34
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Liquidfireis it possible to make a shortcut to the nvidia-settings on the desktop ?11:34
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bimberisomedude_: if you only want net installs, comment out the "deb cd-rom" line in /etc/apt/sources.list11:34
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aeruderLiquidfire: no idea ;)11:35
somedude_sweet! thanks11:35
aeruderLiquidfire: i don't have desktop icons.. so ;)11:35
bimberisomedude_: then "sudo apt-get update"11:35
LiquidfireI don't mind11:35
halsomedude_, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list11:35
lvraabIce9: have you tried Ogle??11:35
Patolin3000Ice9: try to install totem-xine11:35
Liquidfirei've got 4 working things to fuck up11:35
Liquidfireso11:35
Liquidfire;D11:35
somedude_ok, checking11:35
WodanTJLiquidfire: did it become 2 small things after that lovely time?11:35
somedude_i feel bad asking, but how whats the uncomment thingie mark - #?11:36
aeruderok, rickity11:36
bimberisomedude_: yep11:36
Liquidfirehuh WodanTJ  :p?11:36
somedude_ok, thansk AGAIN!11:36
aeruderrickity: look in /sys/block/ for a sd* block device11:36
aeruderrickity: after plugging it in11:36
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WodanTJLiquidfire: well if you get 4 to make love then perhaps they get 2 children.. that would be beautiful11:36
dishfishahh, on #ubuntu11:36
Liquidfirelol WodanTJ11:36
bob_tooany trick to tftpd-hpa? netstat -apn |grep ":69 " does nada (breezy colony3)11:36
Liquidfiredarn you linux humor !11:37
Liquidfire:)11:37
gummelhuhu11:37
rickityaeruder, no such files11:37
Patolin3000Ice9: or try to reduce the color deph in the X's11:37
dishfishany south africans here?11:37
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aeruderrickity: no /sys/block ?11:37
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rickityls /sys/block/sda* is null11:37
BTJusticeLiquidfire: I tried the General Fix on that website.  Still no dice.11:37
dishfishi've been working on skolelinux.... basically there's one problem11:37
aeruderrickity: no sd anything11:37
aeruder?11:37
bimberidishfish: no - only depressed aussie rugby fans :)11:37
aeruderrickity: lsmod show usb_storage module ?11:38
rickityaeruder, /sys/block exists...ram* and d* exist...no sda11:38
aeruderrickity: (lsmod | grep usb_storage)11:38
d2dchathow do you configure groupnames in apache?11:38
rickityaeruder, neg...only usb_core11:38
dishfishubuntu + shuttleworth have some prestigious education and scientific software on tehm (scientific probly imported from Irix)11:38
othernoobhow do i convert a .wmv file to mpeg so i can play it in a dvdplayer?11:38
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d2dchati didnt think i belonged to a groupname11:38
rickityaeruder, sorry usbcore11:38
aeruderrickity: hrmm, try loading usb_storage (sudo modprobe usb_storage)11:38
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dishfishi'd like to merge them fully with Debian11:38
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aeruderothernoob: isntall mplayer and mencoder, although i'm not sure there are packages for those ..11:39
rickityaeruder, now its loaded11:39
bz0bcan someone help me out really quick?11:39
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othernoobaeruder: and then?11:39
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aeruderothernoob: rtfm ;)11:39
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aeruderothernoob: they've got several examples at the bottom of the mplayer manpage11:39
aeruderothernoob: of how to use mencoder11:40
dishfishi'm stationed with my project in Kenya, but south africans would be a great help, since the distance between south africa and Kenya is substantially smaller than say, between my present location Finland and kenya11:40
bz0bIm trying to make menuconfig and it poped up this blue thing, cause Im trying to install my madwifi drivers for wireless card can someone please help me?11:40
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pauldaous1crimsun: you there?11:40
othernoobaeruder: ok11:40
aeruderrickity: ok, i guess try unplugging/plugging in a gain11:40
aerudersee if you get any new /sys/block devices :)11:40
aeruder(make sure lsmod shows it btw)11:40
rickityaeruder, tried it..still no sys/block/sdas11:40
Ice9Patolin3000, still nothing :/11:40
bz0bhello11:40
bz0bis no one going to help me :-(11:41
rickityaeruder, I wonder why usbstorage wasn't installed by defrault11:41
gsuvegwhere is the GENERIC kernel config of ubuntu kernel ? maybe it help bz0b11:41
Patolin3000Ice9: what you do?11:41
aeruderrickity: it should be if it is recognized as being supported11:41
aeruderrickity: mine autoloads11:41
aeruderrickity: so it could be that either your usb system is just fscked up somehow11:41
aeruderrickity: or there's just somethign strange about that usb disk11:41
Ice9Patolin3000 I tried totem-xine and reducing my color to 16 bits11:42
BTJusticeI had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?11:42
dishfishor, i mean Ubuntu as a custom Debian should share repositories, have the same development standard etc.11:42
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aeruderrickity: you can dig around in /sys/bus/usb and perhaps find some more information on it11:42
Patolin3000Ice9: do you have the DMA on?11:42
lvraabIce9: try Ogle11:42
aeruderrickity: but that is sometimes a bit difficult11:42
Concord_Dawnermm11:42
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Mr-DataQuestion: I recently did some upgrades that were recommended by Ubuntu Upgrade Manager. I'm not sure whether this is a coincidence, but now epiphany refuses to accept a letter "t" in the location bar or the search box, or in forms. But, if I bring up a Find dialog box or an Add Bookmark dialog box, the "T" works fine. It also works fine in other applications. Any thoughts?11:42
Concord_Dawncan someone please remove Guest86119?11:42
Ice9lvraab, I did11:42
Concord_Dawn[17:42:22] Guest86119      280    //Server Irc.ArabMirc.Net 280 Bots Are Free Just Jor Registering A Chan The Best Sever Have Been Ever Built !!!! :)  by:  Lebanon <--- he pasted me that.11:42
dishfishit wouldbe a lot easier to implement solutions on Ubuntu if it was 1000% debian -compatible11:42
Tarcastilhey, is there a way to search for packages based on the maintainer?11:42
rickityaeruder, thats what I thought (should be automatic)...oh well..I'll keep digging..thanks a lot for your help11:42
halso no specialist of ubuntu on laptop here ?11:43
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Ice9Patolin3000 It says dma is enabled, but the symptons are like dma isn't..11:43
Concord_Dawnhal: join #ubuntu-laptop for that.11:43
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gsuveganybody know how can i play mov ? im compiled xine and installed mplayer with win32codecs. and dont play 'new' mov11:43
aeruderrickity: /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1:1.0/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:011:43
Concord_DawnCan anyone tell me how to make something startup on startup?11:43
halthanks Concord_Dawn11:43
aeruderrickity: that's where i found my entry for my usb device ;) might be able to use the output of lsusb to get to the right place11:43
aeruderrickity: there are lots of files in there that may help figure out how it is detecting it etc.. but i don't know a ton about it11:44
BTJusticeWhenever the sound system starts, I get this error:  device /dev/dsp can't be opened.11:44
GratConcord_Dawn put a symlink into one of the RC directorys?11:44
bz0bcan anyone tell me what to do in this blue screen that poped up after i typed make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux11:44
Patolin3000Ice9: do you try Xine? not totem-xine11:44
aeruderbz0b: configure your kernel11:44
Ice9yes, I tried xine first, its my favorite11:44
Concord_DawnGrat, ?11:44
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bz0baeruder, can you tell me the generic kernel config?11:44
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Mr-DataI thought my keyboard was broken, but it's not. ;>11:45
aeruderbz0b: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html11:45
Patolin3000Icew: what kind of machine have?11:45
gsuvegaeruder: he is newbye. it help to get the generic kernel config11:45
GratConcord_Dawn what would you like to run on startup?11:45
Concord_DawnFirestarter.11:45
Ice9its a p4 3.06 ghz, 3 gigs of ram11:45
aeruderbz0b: compiling and configuring your kernel isn't a trivial thing11:45
aerudergsuveg: i'll leave that as an exercise to him ;)11:45
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Concord_Dawnit needs root privileges.11:46
gsuvegaeruder: ok11:46
aeruderi have strong faith that he can figure it out ;)11:46
WodanTJaeruder: imo you should never have to compile your own kernel11:46
aeruderWodanTJ: oh, and why do you say that?11:46
WodanTJnot to fix anything. only to finetune11:46
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aeruderWodanTJ: yes, this is true, unless you need to patch, or fix a distro blunder11:46
WodanTJaeruder: since they are made to be as flexible as possible11:46
aeruderor any other number of things11:46
gsuvegbz0b: good luck11:46
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aeruder(including kernel devel)11:46
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GratConcord_Dawn: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7812.html11:46
WodanTJaeruder: yeah well recompile the module that fscks it up?11:47
sorinhello...11:47
Gratthat will probably help :>11:47
Gratellow sorin11:47
Concord_Dawnthanks Grat11:47
sorini have a question about this distro: .....11:47
Patolin3000Ice9: try to chose another video driver in the xine options11:47
sorinwhy dosen't it include more software on the CD's ?11:47
aeruderWodanTJ: or compile into the kernel11:47
mjrsorin, it's full already11:48
Gratsorin: it has most things you need. for more things it would probably need more cds11:48
aeruderWodanTJ: i do kernel development, so i tend to prefer the compiling route ;)11:48
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Patolin3000Ice9:maybe the X11 driver11:48
ninjafishsorin, because people do not want 12 versions of every type of software11:48
Patolin3000Ice9: or OpenGL11:48
ninjafishits too confusing11:48
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sorinfull ?.. i've just writen mine and it's at 590 MB11:48
Ice9Patolin3000, I don't have either of those :/11:48
WodanTJaeruder: yeah but for end user you shouldn't make them recompile the kernel :)11:48
ninjafishsorin it is easier to support11:49
Gratsorin what would you like to have on the CD?11:49
sedathi all my microphone doesnt work is there any suggestion to fix11:49
sorinI don't need 12 versions...11:49
Patolin3000Ice9: inthe options of xine11:49
Patolin3000Ice9:or in the options of Mplayer11:49
ninjafishsorin and kde is not there11:49
mjroh yeah, hoary had a bit space left; breezy was stuffed11:49
sorinninjafish: whell you're right ...11:49
lvraabsedat: is it a software problem??11:49
BTJusticeI had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?11:49
BTJusticeWhenever the sound system starts, I get this error:  device /dev/dsp can't be opened.11:49
Ice9Patolin3000, I see the list of drivers, but those 2 aren't there11:49
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BTJusticealsamixer brings up nothing11:49
sedatI am not sure how can sure it11:50
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sorinninjafish: but i am talking about the software you need to download from the net if you want to install thigs after the distro instal11:50
Patolin3000Ice9: try other11:50
FunnyLookinHatif I need to change the Option "MonitorLayout" etc. etc. setting, where is that file?11:50
Gratsorin: like what software? give an example11:50
Phr0stByte<-----------Trashed his system trying to upgrade to Breezy11:50
Phr0stBytehahahaha11:50
Cletussorin: download how? via apt?11:51
lvraabsedat: find a sound recorder/editing program and see if you can record from the mic11:51
lvraabsedat: e.g. Audacity11:51
sedatno I cant11:51
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ninjafishsorin, give an example of something you needed that was not there on the cd11:51
sorinGrat:  whell i had ubuntu installed a last week ... and i wanted to install something and it began downloading part of it from the net11:51
lvraabsedat: why not??11:51
sorinninjafish: I don't remember...11:51
sedatI tried to use skype11:51
sedatbut it couldnt11:51
pauldaous1hey, folks, I have the most BIZARRRRRE problem you've ever seen. Any sound I play (doesn't matter if it's a WAV or MP3, or through OSS or ALSA) is SSSSSLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW... I just tried to play a song by Coldplay and it sounded like a horror movie soundtrack.11:51
pauldaous1(had a good laugh)11:51
FunnyLookinHatif I need to change the Option "MonitorLayout" etc. etc. setting, where is that file?11:51
sorinninjafish: I'm about to install ubuntu right now and i'll tell you when i'm done11:52
Patolin3000Ice9: do you have 32-bit option on in your DVD?11:52
WodanTJpauldaous1: well.. coldplay sux :)11:52
pauldaous10000:00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 20)11:52
pauldaous1(that's the relevant line from lspci output)11:52
pauldaous1WodanTJ: them's fighting words11:52
sedatit doesnt work11:52
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WodanTJpauldaous1: words of zombies!11:52
ninjafishsorin the formats such as mp3 dvd flash java etc are not all there due to licencing restrictions11:52
ninjafishsame with some drivers11:52
sorinsedat: skype dosen't work with alsa...11:52
Gratsorin: you cant have all the software on the cd, so of course you have to download it from the web11:52
Ice9Patolin3000 how do I check?11:52
pauldaous1so nobody's experienced slow, drawn-out audio playback?11:52
lvraabsedat: have you tried using other programs to see if your mic is dead??11:53
Ice9Patolin3000 when I put in a dvd, shouldn't it say dvd, and not cdrom0?11:53
Cletusninjafish: how do I get that stuff to work?  I ditched RH because they stopped supporting mp311:53
Patolin3000Ice9: hdparm /dev/hd(the leter of you dvd)11:53
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sedatlvraab: I tried it with ubuntus sound recorder and I had nothing11:53
sorinsedat: what do you have ... gnome or kde ?11:53
lvraabsedat: if your mic work in another program, then it's skype's problem11:53
lvraab*works11:53
ninjafishCletus there is a link on the ubuntu wiki - restricted formats11:53
esc_apered hat stopped supporting mp3?11:53
sorinninjafish: i'll get back to you after the install ...11:53
Patolin3000Ice9: in my case is hdparm /dev/hdc11:53
sedatsorin: gnome11:53
Cletusthey did for a while esc_ape11:54
WodanTJesc_ape: he must mean fedora11:54
Cletusthanks ninjafish11:54
esc_apeoh11:54
sorinsedat: and what is exactly the problem11:54
Cletusyeah, sorry "fedora"11:54
ninjafishmp3 is a restricted format,11:54
Ice9Patolin3000 IO_support =0(default 16 bit)11:54
sorinsedat: dose it say something about no sound ?11:54
ErniePantussofedora stopped supporting mp3?11:54
Concord_Dawnhmm...11:54
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sedatsorin: I couldnt use my microphone11:54
Patolin3000Ice9: you have to turn on11:54
Ice9how do I do that?11:54
sedatsorin: no it doesnt11:55
dishfish"the software business is binary, 1 or 0, alive or dead - it scales don't you think"11:55
sedatsorin: no error11:55
johniohey everybody: could anybody give me some pointers about getting nvidia driver working for colony 311:55
lvraabsedatL is your mic volume turned all the way up??11:55
Gratdamn, i wish i would have patented binary :>11:55
sorinsedat: so it dosen't say anithing .... ??11:55
sedatlvraab: yes it is11:56
sorinsedat: people just can't hear you ?11:56
Patolin3000ice9: sudo hdparm -c 1 /dev/hdX (the X is the leter of you DVD)11:56
sedatsorin: yes they cant11:56
lvraabheh11:56
BTJusticeI had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?11:56
BTJusticeWhenever the sound system starts, I get this error:  device /dev/dsp can't be opened.11:56
BTJusticealsamixer brings up nothing11:56
sedatsorin: also I tried it with sound recorder in ubuntu but I cant hear anything11:56
Ice9okay11:56
sorinsedat: could you explain exactly what the problem is then ?11:56
lvraab:-/11:56
Ice9do I have to restart? or will it be in effect?11:56
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sorinsedat: so it's the mic's fault ?11:57
Patolin3000Ice9: no, then you try totem or xine or werever11:57
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sedatno I think device is okey because I can use it under windows11:57
tokenis there a reason why isn't either xv or xnview in the list of synaptic?11:57
Gratsorin: it could be the mic, cable, motherboard or ubuntu11:57
Grat:>11:57
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leo_i am newbies in linux11:58
Gratbut since it works under windows it is ubuntu :>11:58
Tarcastilwhat's up with Guest86119?11:58
sedatsorin: no I think device is okey because I can use it under windows11:58
Gratellow leo_ :>11:58
Tarcastilit's a bot that keeps annoying me if I open or close this channel11:58
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sorinsedat: have you checked in alsamixer ??11:58
GratHEY OPS11:58
GratGuest86119 SPAMMER!11:58
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Ice9Patolin3000 its still choppy :/11:58
leo_what is webpage editer  in ubuntu !11:58
sorinI have gentoo so there might be some diferences .....11:59
sedatsorin: what does that mean exactly11:59
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tokenis there a reason why isn't either xv nor xnview in the list of synaptic?11:59
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ninjafishsorin alsamixer is the same11:59
sorinsedat: go in console and type alsamixer11:59
ninjafishdefault is mute11:59
Patolin3000Ice9: what apear when you put "hdparm /dev/hdX"?11:59
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sorinninjafish: I know but i don't know if in ubuntu is installed default12:00
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