[12:00] <Tatster> kemik::   I think this is what you asked for    drwxr-xr-x    5 root root 4.0K 2005-05-16 23:15 scsi
[12:00] <yath> d2dchat: I have not done this myself. I thought it might be a shortcut rather than burning a 5.10 CD, but it might not work.
[12:00] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: well, I suggest you do what it says!  sudo apt-get install -f
[12:00] <chicken-man> got to go, bye every one
[12:01] <kemik> Tatster:  go inside the scsi dir and do "ls -lha" again
[12:01] <d2dchat> yath, well its doing whatever its doing
[12:01] <hardw1re> hmmm jre is gonna take time to download
[12:01] <yath> cool
[12:01] <d2dchat> yath, do you know how install xmms?
[12:01] <kemik> Tatster:  the directory itself seems to have the correct ownership and flags to be modifiable by root
[12:01] <Scrawny1> this is really ticking me off
[12:02] <Tatster> kemik: That listing is here: http://pastebin.com/341149
[12:02] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, =P
[12:02] <yath> d2dchat: lemme see
[12:02] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: did you try install -f?  What happened?
[12:02] <Scrawny1> same dang error
[12:02] <d2dchat> LinuxJones, ;)
[12:03] <SolitaryCritic> who can fix my problem
[12:03] <yath> d2dchat: yeah, in sources.list there are 2 lines ending in "universe". You A) uncomment them, B) add "multiverse" to the end
[12:03] <yath> d2dchat: then xmms is available
[12:03] <d2dchat> yath, can i do that while its updating?
[12:03] <OwnageLinux> guys how do i get the wine to work
[12:03] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: I really suggest that you try using Synaptic instead - it's a bit more user friendly
[12:03] <d2dchat> yath, in another terminal?
[12:03] <yath> d2dchat: apparently not in 5.10 though... heh
[12:03] <benplaut> ubotu tell OwnageLinux about wine
[12:03] <d2dchat> yath, o:(
[12:04] <ThreeDayMonk> OwnageLinux: maybe you need to drink more of it?
[12:04] <fraggsta> I can't get exim4 to deliver to Maildirs on an Ubuntu machine.  How do I make it do this?
[12:04] <gak> who
[12:04] <yath> d2dchat: oh wait. it is there, just no multiverse.
[12:04] <yath> d2dchat: you can edit sources.list now, but don't do any apt-getting till the other stuff is dnoe
[12:04] <kemik> Tatster:  weird,, try umounting the device. and then remount with "mount -t ext3 -o rw <insert /dev/here> <insert mountpoint>"
[12:04] <Scrawny1> ok how do I use synaptic to d/l this?
[12:05] <d2dchat> yath, So what exactly do i do?
[12:05] <ThreeDayMonk> Scrawny1: go to the Gnome menu at the top of the screen (by default) -> System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[12:05] <kemik> Scrawny1:  tried "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[12:05] <yath> d2dchat: find 2 lines there ending with "universe" and erase # from their beginnings
[12:05] <ThreeDayMonk> kemik: he said he tried it
[12:05] <kemik> ok missed it =)
[12:06] <d2dchat> is there a way to edit the file from terminal?
[12:06] <yath> nano sources.list
[12:06] <d2dchat> ah yes! i love that editor:)
[12:06] <nickrud> fraggsta, you can use procmail to sort mail into maildirs from exim
[12:06] <d2dchat> its been awhile since ive used linux
[12:07] <Scrawny1> ok I think I got it guys :)
[12:07] <Velox> I'm close to giving up on booting Ubuntu :\
[12:07] <ThreeDayMonk> kemik: I still prefer vim - easier to load files
[12:07] <Scrawny1> now do I refresh gnome once it's installed or.....?
[12:07] <d2dchat> yath, I pasted you the lines
[12:07] <ThreeDayMonk> the menu?
[12:07] <kemik> ThreeDayMonk:  hm? how do you mean ?
[12:07] <fraggsta> nickrud: I'm just not seeing any way to actually get dpkg to configure anything to actually *use* maildirs
[12:07] <d2dchat> yath, there are 4 lines with 'universe'
[12:08] <vitriol> can i get the ati drivers with apt-get?
[12:08] <OwnageLinux> how do u open a chat w/ someone in linux x-chat?
[12:08] <nickrud> fraggsta, you don't use dpkg; a sec and I'll post my .procmailrc
[12:08] <vitriol> i can't find them with apt-cache
[12:08] <ThreeDayMonk> kemik: well, I have the console open in my working directory, and just type vim foo bar baz to edit all the files I want
[12:08] <kemik> vitriol:  yes, they're called fglrx
[12:08] <_frank> !ati
[12:08] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:08] <vitriol> kemik: oh ok thats what i was looking for thanks :)
[12:08] <OwnageLinux> how do u open a chat w/ someone in linux x-chat?
[12:08] <vitriol> and thanks _frank
[12:08] <Tatster> kemik: That worked - so next question is what should I put in /etc/fstab to make this mount available after a reboot?
[12:09] <kemik> ThreeDayMonk:  same thing applies to gvim :) (and wnat to open additional files? :e filname1 file2  :) )
[12:09] <benplaut> hmm
[12:09] <kemik> Tatster:  remove the defaults and add "rw"
[12:09] <benplaut> OwnageLinux, /msg nick
[12:09] <gak> I can't get either the live dvd or cd to boot - cd itegrity checks out fine, md5 is fine, drive works fine for other things, any ideas?
[12:09] <ThreeDayMonk> kemik: except I have to move to that directory - with vim I'm already there!
[12:09] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, right click their name "Open Dialog Window" but be sure to ask if it's ok to do so before hand
[12:09] <washo_pelao> me voy, gringos qls xD
[12:09] <kemik> ThreeDayMonk:  no, it should start in the working dir where you opeened it
[12:09] <Scrawny1> guys?
[12:09] <OwnageLinux> wats dcc chat?
[12:10] <Scrawny1> threedaymonk sorry :)
[12:10] <nickrud> fraggsta, I've used this with both postfix and exim: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1410
[12:10] <kemik> or maybe that's a feature in my wicked .vimrc file .. hmmh
[12:10] <Scrawny1> once I get it installed do I refresh gnome?
[12:10] <gak> error on the dvd is "An installation step has failed... The failing step is: Load installer components from CD."
[12:10] <LinuxJones> Scrawny1, what's wrong ?
[12:10] <ThreeDayMonk> kemik: yeah, that's true, of course, but I would have it open already from somewhere else
[12:10] <OwnageLinux> how long does the synaptic take to isntall things...?
[12:10] <OwnageLinux> i marked it for instalation but it just turned green
[12:11] <ThreeDayMonk> kemik: I prefer to just use screen and vim (with the mini-buf explorer) for everything
[12:11] <ThreeDayMonk> OwnageLinux: Apply
[12:11] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, you click on apply to download and install the software
[12:11] <kemik> ThreeDayMonk:  we all have different tastes ;)
[12:11] <OwnageLinux> where is aplly?
[12:11] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, up top like 3 or 4 buttons to the right
[12:11] <ThreeDayMonk> OwnageLinux: try #learning-to-read :-)
[12:11] <nickrud> fraggsta, for postfix, you need to make a change to a postfix conf file to enable procmail, for exim it simply works
[12:11] <gmoore> i'm trying to ftp a file to my server and i keep getting permission denied. what do i need to chmod the directory?
[12:12] <OwnageLinux> ok thanks :)
[12:12] <fraggsta> nickrud: aren't I going to need to make fetchmail use procmail?
[12:12] <ThreeDayMonk> OwnageLinux: of course... if your language is different...
[12:12] <OwnageLinux> its not... it worked
[12:12] <OwnageLinux> the upload on linux is so damn fast
[12:12] <kemik> gmoore:  depends on the current state of the directory... "sudo chmod -R 777 <dir>" will work for most settings.
[12:13] <OwnageLinux> i like how linux has its own programs
[12:13] <nickrud> fraggsta, no, I did nothing other than add that procmailrc for exim. fetchmail hands off to exim, not procmail directly, if my memory serves.
[12:13] <OwnageLinux> such as aim. msn. yahoo. icq all built into one... that owns
[12:13] <SolitaryCritic> guess I'll install vector linux
[12:14] <nickrud> I've used that or a variation for a few years now
[12:14] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, yeah it beats having to goto a website and find the file to download :)
[12:14] <chris> is there any way to make the mouse wheel work when I do something other than press it directly down?
[12:14] <Xenguy> gmoore: chmod 777 is 'wide open' -- I wouldn't leave those permissions like that for long
[12:14] <LinuxJones> SolitaryCritic, what's wrong ?
[12:14] <benplaut> is there any way to change the chmod of a folder, and all the folders and files in that folder?
[12:14] <Xenguy> benplaut: chmod -R
[12:14] <benplaut> Xenguy: thanks
[12:14] <kemik> R is for Recursive
[12:14] <kemik> ;)
[12:14] <ThreeDayMonk> but don't use x with -R!
[12:15] <ThreeDayMonk> use X instead
[12:15] <Xenguy> or man chmod =)
[12:15] <gmoore> well the directory is owned by root
[12:15] <gmoore> /mnt/storage/www/files
[12:15] <kemik> x / X? hm
[12:15] <gmoore> i want user 'g' to be able to upload to that directory
[12:15] <OwnageLinux> ok i installed wine but i have no clue where it was installed to
[12:15] <gmoore> how would i chmod it? i don't want to do 777
[12:16] <yath> What about editing fstab so it's loaded for that user
[12:16] <kemik> gmoore:  what security do you want ?
[12:16] <yath> mounted Imean
[12:16] <kemik> gmoore:  "man chmod"
[12:16] <fraggsta> nickrud: well that didn't work..it picked up a mail and put it....somewhere
[12:16] <greg> (was gak) so has anyone ever seen a live cd fail to read once it sucessfully boots?
[12:16] <OwnageLinux> is there a way to search ur system like in windows
[12:16] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, for files and such ?
[12:16] <kemik> OwnageLinux:  "sudo locate -ucl 0" followed by "locate <file>"
[12:16] <nickrud> fraggsta, look at ~, and /var/mail/fraggsta
[12:16] <Xenguy> gmoore: if you are running an FTP server and yer still learning chmod, I would be most careful :-)  One approach might be to create a 'group', then add your user 'g' to that group
[12:17] <greg> and don't forget updatedb ownage
[12:17] <ThreeDayMonk> OwnageLinux: I'm afraid that there's no animated dog, though...
[12:17] <gmoore> Xenguy: what would that accomplish
[12:17] <kemik> ThreeDayMonk:  thank heaven for that
[12:17] <sublime_> hola gente, estoy instalando el vmware y me pide lo siguiente:
[12:17] <sublime_> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:17] <sublime_> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[12:17] <ThreeDayMonk> kemik: aye
[12:17] <kemik> i hate those damned "agents"
[12:17] <ThreeDayMonk> I fucking hate that dog :-)
[12:17] <sublime_> puse ya varia cosas pero ...
[12:17] <kab> hi
[12:17] <greg> I don't think beagle is ready for prime time yet
[12:17] <sublime_> estoy con ubuntu ovbio ... que hay otro ...!!! XXXD
[12:17] <Xenguy> gmoore: this approach assumes there is a 'group' of users you want to have permission to upload
[12:17] <darkgamer20> is there a way to install ubuntu from floppies over the 'net?
[12:18] <kab> I am with breezy, and I can't get loopback good, then my gnome isn't working :(
[12:18] <kemik> sublime_:  english please, or use #ubuntu-es
[12:18] <thezombiehunter> whats the link for the uniffical guide
[12:18] <kab> How can I up muy lo?
[12:18] <kemik> unless that's italian
[12:18] <sublime_> ok , i'm sorry
[12:18] <kemik> eheh
[12:18] <fraggsta> nickrud: nope, it's empty
[12:18] <Xenguy> gmoore: but I'm no expert with ftpd's -- I tend to avoid FTP altogether since I've never needed to mess with FTP services
[12:18] <thezombiehunter> ???
[12:18] <ThreeDayMonk> kemik: now you've insulted the Spanish and Italian speakers!
[12:18] <kemik> thezombiehunter:  "google -> ubuntu guide" or www.ubuntuguide.[org,com,whatever] 
[12:18] <kemik> ThreeDayMonk:  yeah.. im smooth ;)
[12:19] <OwnageLinux> anybody no where wine installs?
[12:19] <Tatster> kemik: Thanks for your help
[12:19] <yath> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:19] <darkgamer20> is there a way to install ubuntu from floppies over the 'net?
[12:19] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, in console type whereis wine
[12:19] <kemik> Tatster:  np
[12:19] <nophix> don't use that ubuntuguide too much
[12:19] <nophix> it's not so up to date
[12:20] <nickrud> fraggsta, hm.
[12:20] <greg> once live dvd is booted base linux - how to get from menu to tty? (to see dmseg error?)
[12:20] <Velox> Odd. My problem is that GRUB appears to not be loading at all, however I opened up VMware virtual workstation, tweaked it to be most like my system, loaded it up and GRUB came up fine.
[12:20] <Myrtti> goar.
[12:20] <nophix> greg: ctrl+alt+f1 maybe?
[12:20] <Velox> So I can run my Ubuntu install just fine from VMware, but not actually booting it.
[12:21] <Velox> Evil.
[12:21] <darkgamer20> is there a way to install ubuntu from floppies over the 'net?
[12:21] <nickrud> fraggsta, then it's probably in exim's queue. You can install eximon4 (eximon executable) to see what's happening
[12:21] <fraggsta> nickrud: there's no procmail log file either
[12:21] <yath> darkgamer20: I think that is highly unlikely
[12:21] <OwnageLinux> hmmm when i type "whereis wine" it gives me the locations... i look there and no wine file is there
[12:21] <nickrud> fraggsta, no from in the Maildir?
[12:21] <darkgamer20> yath: how  come?
[12:21] <nophix> darkgamer20: you should try the regular debian
[12:21] <greg> actually theres a menu choice once you dismiss the big read read error window
[12:21] <darkgamer20> oh ok
[12:21] <fraggsta> nickrud: nope, I can see where the log file *should* be
[12:21] <greg> thanks nophix, though
[12:22] <nophix> greg: :)
[12:22] <alex__> is there a sleep possibility in ubuntu ?
[12:22] <fraggsta> I run fetchmail and...nothing goes into exim's queue
[12:23] <greg> so lots of "drive not ready for command" errors in dmesg and things like "Buffer I/O error"
[12:24] <gmoore> anyone experienced with proftpd? i really need some help configuring it, i've been trying for 2 days :(
[12:24] <Seveas> alex__, yes, choose hibernate from the logout menu
[12:24] <OwnageLinux> ok i found the wine folder... i have no clue what file to open though
[12:24] <fraggsta> this leaves me wondering where my mail actually went
[12:24] <alex__> thanks !
[12:24] <nophix> gmoore: i'm not experienced, but you should describe your problem directly instead, or on the forums maybe
[12:25] <chris> Is there a way to make my mouse wheel scroll down three lines or so like it normally does?
[12:25] <nophix> OwnageLinux: typed wine in terminal?
[12:25] <gmoore> well, i can't figure out how to give users permissions at all. eg i made a user 'upload' and i want him to be able to upload and resume uploads in a certain directory, but i can't figure out how to set it up.
[12:25] <OwnageLinux> nophix: yes...
[12:26] <OwnageLinux> nophix: i typed whereis wine
[12:26] <ptlo> hmm...i'm trying to install vmware and it requires linux source headers set up for current kernel version. i have stock (2.6.10) ubuntu kernel, is there a package providing kernel source(s) / patches from which exactly this image was built?
[12:26] <ptlo> i don't want to recompile the kernel just so i'd have headers/kernel image in sync
[12:26] <nophix> OwnageLinux: yes, "wine iexplore.exe" for example
[12:26] <OwnageLinux> i dont have iexplore on it though
[12:27] <nophix> OwnageLinux: well. whatever you need to run
[12:27] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, >> http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wine-faq/index
[12:27] <fraggsta> nickrud: seems liek procmail isn't getting used at all
[12:27] <nophix> gmoore: for starters, you should have the right permissions on directory
[12:27] <nophix> gmoore: with chmod
[12:28] <OwnageLinux> linux: how do i start wine?
[12:28] <gmoore> nophix: i understand how to use chmod in general but i don't know what permissions i need to set
[12:28] <nickrud> fraggsta, eximon is useful; I also looked around on the net in case my several year old solution has been superseded
[12:28] <gmoore> if i want to give 'upload' write permissions, how do i do that using chmod?
[12:28] <hardw1re> anyone got wine running on the x86_64 system?
[12:28] <OwnageLinux> i type "wine" it installed stuff
[12:28] <fissy> in ubuntu breezy, i see that the run application item has been removed from the panel, is that a gnome 2.12 change or an ubuntu change?
[12:28] <fraggsta> nickrud: yes, eximon is showing me that mail never goes into exim's queue
[12:29] <nophix> OwnageLinux: wine doesn't have a gui, what do you want to do with it?
[12:29] <Xenguy> gmoore: which ftpd are you using BTW?  (Whatever it is, I imagine that the documentation would probably cover that kind of question(?)
[12:29] <LinuxJones> fissy, hit alt + F2 and see if it comes up
[12:29] <OwnageLinux> nophix: play a windows game... nophix
[12:29] <gmoore> Xenguy: proftpd and no it does not it assumes you know how to set up permissions and user accounts
[12:29] <hardw1re> get cedega
[12:29] <hardw1re> you want to goto transgaming.com
[12:29] <hardw1re> OwnageLinux ^^
[12:29] <nophix> OwnageLinux: just type wine setup.exe or something or get cedega instead, better for gaming
[12:29] <LinuxJones> fissy, maybe it got moved  somewhere else
[12:30] <fissy> i don't want it somewhere else!
[12:30] <jtan325> is anyone's aim down?
[12:30] <fissy> ican bring it up by alt-f2, but i nearly always want to do it with my mouse
[12:30] <OwnageLinux> nophix: i typed "wine" it did something like config it..
[12:30] <jtan325> i.e. you can't log in to your aim account?
[12:31] <nickrud> fraggsta, send some mail to your local account directly; this'll keep fetchmail out of the loop. Something should show something in the queue if the mail is stopping at procmail
[12:31] <nophix> OwnageLinux: you're not listening
[12:31] <thekman> i always see linux screenshots with a toolbar type app on the desktop that shows things like disk usage, volume, network settings etc etc... does anyone know what any type of program like this is called
[12:31] <hardw1re> OwnageLinux: goto transgaming.com and get cedega, thats best for windows games
[12:31] <Kira> When I use ndiswrapper to install a WiFi driver, does ndiswrapper automatically copy the inf file to a new location?
[12:31] <nophix> thekman: gkrellm
[12:31] <jabra> gkrellem
[12:31] <OwnageLinux> ok hard but i think cedega isnt free
[12:31] <hardw1re> no it isnt
[12:31] <hardw1re> but the cvs is
[12:32] <nickrud> s/something//
[12:32] <OwnageLinux> hard.: wats cvs?
[12:32] <hardw1re> but 40 for a years sub aint bad tbh
[12:32] <OwnageLinux> hard: cvs the pharmacy? lol
[12:32] <ilovetoastmaker> hello
[12:32] <benplaut> cvs is the source code
[12:32] <OwnageLinux> so what can i do w/ the cvs?
[12:32] <hardw1re> compile cedega your self
[12:32] <OwnageLinux> but i dont know how to do that
[12:33] <benplaut> but it's not full featured...
[12:33] <ilovetoastmaker> can someone help me connect to the internet in the hoary hedgehog release?
[12:33] <hardw1re> :o
[12:33] <hardw1re> are you using a router, ppp or cable?
[12:33] <OwnageLinux> ilovetoastmaker: your on the internet??
[12:33] <ilovetoastmaker> im using...windows
[12:33] <OwnageLinux> o
[12:33] <ilovetoastmaker> usb 2wire pc port
[12:33] <hardw1re> usb adsl modem?
[12:33] <ilovetoastmaker> yes
[12:34] <alxarch> hi i need some help with my sound configuration(already followed HOWTO in ubuntu starter guide)
[12:34] <fraggsta> nickrud: looks like debconf has sprinkled "DEBCONF" all over exim.conf, stopping it from working :S
[12:34] <d2dchat> im getting ubuntu configuration
[12:34] <d2dchat> its asking me for postfix configuration
[12:34] <hardw1re> i cant really help you there, i have an adsl router/modem that my machine plugs into and gets all the info off of dhcp
[12:34] <d2dchat> what type of 'General Type configuration' should i have?
[12:34] <nickrud> fraggsta, try reconfiguring, purely as a local mail delivery then, for testing
[12:34] <d2dchat> 'No configuration'
[12:34] <d2dchat> 'internet site'
[12:34] <ilovetoastmaker> pppoeconf doesnt work either
[12:34] <d2dchat> 'internet site with smarthost'
[12:35] <Flonne> d2dchat, if you don't know, go with no configuration and local everything.
[12:35] <d2dchat> ok
[12:35] <d2dchat> ty
[12:35] <fraggsta> nickrud: dpkg-reconfigure'ing it doesn't do anything
[12:35] <ilovetoastmaker> an anyone help me here, or should i go somewhere else?
[12:35] <ilovetoastmaker> *can
[12:36] <nickrud> fraggsta, then, that's debconf, and over my head. Although, last I used exim4, it worked :)
[12:36] <alxarch> I need some help with my sound configuration(already followed HOWTO in ubuntu starter guide). PLZ
[12:36] <fraggsta> nickrud: then I don't see how I can reconfigure it
[12:37] <nickrud> fraggsta, a ha! sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
[12:37] <OwnageLinux> howcome music player wont play my mp3's?
[12:37] <hardw1re> ok, anyone here know how to disable sound devices in the asound or reconfigure asound/alsa to use a specific device? already mentioned it earlier but my logitech quickcam has a mic in it, which when plugged in alsa recognises it as a sound device and sets it as default, instead of my actual sound card... any help will be greatfull :)
[12:37] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, you need to install mp3 playback codecs
[12:38] <ilovetoastmaker> can someone help me connect to the internet in the hoary hedgehog release? I'm using a usb pc port by 2wire. pppoeconf doen't do anything
[12:38] <nophix> OwnageLinux: wiki.ubuntu.com is your best friend
[12:38] <crimsun> hardw1re: in a Terminal, echo "options snd-usb-audio index=-2" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[12:38] <hardw1re> oh and wat does the K8 mean in the AMD 64 kernel images?
[12:38] <OwnageLinux> jones where do i get the codecs?
[12:39] <hardw1re> thnx crimsun
[12:39] <hardw1re> i'll give that a try
[12:39] <Flonne> hardw1re, it's optimized for Athlon64 and related chips.
[12:39] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64] 
[12:39] <hardw1re> the K8 is the code name for the Athlon 64's?
[12:40] <hardw1re> just like k6-2, and k7 etc.
[12:40] <Flonne> Like those, but not exactly a code name.
[12:40] <LinuxJones> !restrictedformats
[12:40] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[12:40] <Juhaz> hardw1re, yes
[12:40] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, see that webpage ^^
[12:40] <fraggsta> nickrud: success!
[12:40] <hardw1re> ah ok, i thought it was relating to the K8T800 chipset
[12:40] <OwnageLinux> jones:the wiki thing?
[12:41] <hardw1re> and im using an nForce 3 board
[12:41] <OwnageLinux> how do u type in red is it /action or /me or sumthin
[12:41] <nickrud> fraggsta, I'm using postfix currently, I'm very lucky I remembered that.
[12:41] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, yes ubotu is a bot that helps with general information and links
[12:41] <fraggsta> nickrud: well a bunch of test emails just turned up
[12:41] <fraggsta> nickrud: ok, thanks for the help...I need a cigarette (dont smoke, kids!)
[12:42] <OwnageLinux> Linux, ?
[12:42] <nickrud> fraggsta, I'll join you :)
[12:42] <pfp> OwnageLinux: usually your irc clients colours the lines that have your nick in them
[12:42] <pfp> client*
[12:42] <hardw1re> crimsun: not familiar with many of the CLI's yet, but tee, does that right the output of the echo into the alsa-base?
[12:42] <OwnageLinux> ohhhh
[12:42] <bender_> sigh
[12:42] <bender_> im bord
[12:42] <OwnageLinux> pfp: kewl
[12:42] <crimsun> hardw1re: yes
[12:42] <hardw1re> cool :)
[12:43] <alxarch> 0wnage there is an entry in ubuntu starter guide on dloading codecs http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[12:43] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, it's a script that you can call and it will output links to common questions like yours that have been programmed into it by users.
[12:43] <hardw1re> anyone tried the 2.6.12 amd64 kernels yet?
[12:43] <OwnageLinux> hard where do i get cedeca or wateva u said
[12:43] <codecaine> anyone in here know how to determine the actual port number returned from a passive reply from an ftp server?
[12:43] <alxarch> I need some help with my sound configuration(already followed HOWTO in ubuntu starter guide). PLZ
[12:43] <hardw1re> www.transgaming.com
[12:43] <bender_> mathew
[12:43] <codecaine> last two numbers are used to determine port...
[12:43] <bender_> where you located?
[12:44] <codecaine> 227 Entering Passive Mode (69,24,8,40,19,190)
[12:44] <pfp> OwnageLinux: indeed, and very handy too on a busy channel like this
[12:44] <hardw1re> lol
[12:44] <hardw1re> yup
[12:44] <greg> so the computer will boot from a suse dvd but not a knoppix cd or a ubuntu cd - anyone seen this?
[12:44] <OwnageLinux> pfp: what was indeed a response to?
[12:44] <LED_scorched> i'm not sure how i did it, but in GIMP i lost my layer panel, and cant get it back.  any ideas?
[12:45] <hardw1re> ok crimsun gonna give that a shot and see if my soundcard still works, gotta reboot tho cause linux doesnt like when i plug my webcam in while its running :P
[12:45] <pfp> OwnageLinux: 01:43 < OwnageLinux> pfp: kewl -- which i guess was your response to me telling you about the colour thing :)
[12:45] <OwnageLinux> pfp: yup :)
[12:46] <OwnageLinux> anyone know how to open things with wine where do i put the files so it opens them
[12:46] <blk> does somebody know about the state of keyboard-layouts in breezy? i can't seem to get de_CH working - it is set in gconf aswell as in xorg.conf, when switching from the keyboard-pref.-gui i get an "error activating XKB conf."
[12:46] <benplaut> OwnageLinux, it should creat virtual drives that give ou al your regular files
[12:46] <Kira> gaaah
[12:46] <OwnageLinux> benplaut, i think it did...
[12:47] <Kira> I get an error message with pon
[12:47] <OwnageLinux> benplaut, but if i want to play a game on it how will i open it
[12:47] <alxarch> I need some help with my sound configuration(already followed HOWTO in ubuntu starter guide). PLZ someone PLZ
[12:47] <pfp> OwnageLinux: "wine /path/to/setup.exe"  <- that usually installs the prog. in your "fake C drive" or whatever
[12:47] <OwnageLinux> lol
[12:47] <OwnageLinux> so i just type "wine /path/to/setup.exe and it will install it?
[12:48] <Kira> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider: unrecognized option 'wlan0'
[12:48] <pfp> should, with luck :)
[12:48] <ilovetoastmaker> can someone help me connect to the internet in the hoary hedgehog release? I'm using a usb pc port by 2wire. pppoeconf doen't do anything
[12:48] <pfp> though gamers seem to prefer cedega over wine
[12:49] <OwnageLinux> pfp: i typed wine /path/to/setup.exe and it just said it couldnt find it
[12:49] <LinuxJones> ilovetoastmaker, do you know if your network card has been setup correctly ?
[12:49] <pfp> OwnageLinux: krrhm, you should replace /path/to/..etc with whereever your windows program's installer files are
[12:50] <TheGnome> where can i get cool desktop wallpaper?
[12:50] <OwnageLinux> pfp: oh lol
[12:50] <LinuxJones> TheGnome, art.gnome.org
[12:51] <benplaut> TheGnome, gnome-look.org
[12:52] <cafuego> Kira: I'd expect pppoe to not run particularly well via wireless
[12:52] <OwnageLinux> how do i compile a cvs? is it hard
[12:52] <ilovetoastmaker> linuxjones:it works on windoze
[12:52] <cafuego> OwnageLinux: /msg ubotu compiling
[12:53] <pfp> seems ubotu won't listen to unregistered users
[12:53] <OwnageLinux> ubotu doesnt answer
[12:53] <ubotu> OwnageLinux: No idea
[12:53] <Kira> cafuego you don't say...
[12:53] <pfp> !tell OwnageLinux about compiling
[12:54] <nophix> !tell OwnageLinux about compiling
[12:54] <cafuego> Kira: rerun pppoeconf
[12:54] <OwnageLinux> llol
[12:54] <nophix> bah
[12:54] <LinuxJones> ilovetoastmaker, ok type sudo network-admin and see if your card is listed, if so click the card and hit properties to configure.
[12:54] <OwnageLinux> how do u make him type stuff to me?
[12:54] <pfp> wow, that's not an encouraging advice :)
[12:54] <cafuego> OwnageLinux: /msg nickserv register
[12:54] <OwnageLinux> ??
[12:54] <nophix> OwnageLinux: don't use the bot, use wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:54] <cafuego> OwnageLinux: ubotu only talks to registered nicks
[12:55] <Kira> cafuego: and then?
[12:55] <OwnageLinux> "ubotu Compiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really"
[12:56] <cafuego> Kira: tell it about the network interface you want it to use (ethX)
[12:56] <LinuxJones> haha
[12:56] <hardw1re> hey crimsun thanks mate, that worked a treat :D now i can work on getting my webcam running.... (lol)
[12:56] <OwnageLinux> !tell pfp about penis
[12:56] <OwnageLinux> lol
[12:56] <OwnageLinux> ubotu i dunno what is 'penis'
[12:56] <ubotu> OwnageLinux: I think you lost me on that one
[12:57] <pfp> at least ubotu has some manners ;)
[12:57] <OwnageLinux> but he doesnt know what a penis is
[12:57] <cafuego> pfp: Not encouraging, but essentially correct.
[12:57] <nophix> ubotu is hetero
[12:57] <ubotu> nophix: I give up, what is it?
[12:57] <nophix> i guess not?
[12:57] <pfp> cafuego: probably true, yes :/
[12:58] <freedomjazzdance> why would my cd get stuck in the drive? its an audio cd
[12:58] <OwnageLinux> after i tried to install sumthin w/ wine it just stopped the text
[12:58] <pfp> ... but they have to learn somehow -)
[12:58] <cafuego> pfp: source deb is a good start
[12:58] <freedomjazzdance> and cdplayer auto loaded but now wont eject
[12:58] <nophix> :D
[12:58] <cafuego> pfp: Then again, windows users don't need to know how to compile CVS office...
[12:58] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: is there a short cut on the desktop?
[12:59] <freedomjazzdance> yeah and when i right click and do a eject... no go error message
[12:59] <freedomjazzdance> and i tried umounting it manually
[12:59] <nophix> yes and then?
[12:59] <freedomjazzdance> no go
[12:59] <nophix> umount -f
[01:00] <freedomjazzdance> says its not mounted according to mtab
[01:00] <OwnageLinux> ne1 have a pre-compiled cedeca?
[01:00] <alxarch> I need some help with my sound configuration
[01:00] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: you should not have any programs using the cd or being in the same directory
[01:00] <Kira> cafuego: but I don't want to use ethx
[01:01] <OwnageLinux> r u guys all on x-chat?
[01:01] <nophix> i am, at least
[01:01] <alxarch> i am too
[01:01] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, im not...
[01:01] <Flonne> I'm using my own client.
[01:01] <Grat> i rather use irssi (or mirc if possible :>)
[01:01] <Velox> I'm on mIRC right now as I'm working on my Ubuntu install through VMware
[01:01] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, still is saying its not mounted
[01:01] <alxarch> i want some help
[01:01] <OwnageLinux> ne1 have a compiled cedeca?
[01:01] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: you tried umount -f?
[01:02] <Flonne> With what, alxarch?
[01:02] <eric_> I installed the rt2500 wireless module and I'm trying to get it to autoload at boot time, does anyone know how to do this?
[01:02] <alxarch> sound
[01:02] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, Yes i did
[01:02] <robotgeek> eric_: finally , someone with a ralink card
[01:02] <Dr_Melectaus> is there a GUI for john the ripper?
[01:02] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: what does it say?
[01:02] <Flonne> alxarch, what type of card do you have?
[01:02] <Dr_Melectaus> anyone know if there is a GUI for John The Ripper
[01:02] <eric_> robotgeek, indeed, have a question?
[01:02] <cafuego> Kira: What port is the dsl modem plugged in to?
[01:02] <Dr_Melectaus> sorry repeated
[01:02] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, says its not mounted
[01:03] <robotgeek> eric_: i had to struggle a lot to get it working, now it works great!
[01:03] <gmoore> i can't get my proftpd server to follow what i've set up in proftpd.conf, it's only listening to the filesystem permissions. eg i made a group called ftp-upload and a user called upload, with home dir /ftp/upload. documentroot ~ is on so they're locked in there. no matter how i set up <LIMIT>, it only listens to what the directory is chmodded as.
[01:03] <OwnageLinux> hard whats the site again transgaming.com ?
[01:03] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: well, is it mounted?
[01:03] <pfp> cafuego: yes, normal people shouldn't have to know about compilers, umounts or anything... maybe some day they won't
[01:03] <Kira> cafuego: It's plugged to my wireless access point right now.
[01:03] <eric_> robotgeek, cool, mine is working like a charm as well :)
[01:03] <freedomjazzdance> nophix,  nothing appears in the usuall mount dir
[01:03] <alxarch> i have a soundblaster 24 on my desktop and an intel onboard on my laptop
[01:04] <alxarch> none of them works
[01:04] <robotgeek> eric_: i just have a script to up it, turned off network connections on bootup
[01:04] <Bags> Hello room.
[01:04] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: appears? what does "df" say?
[01:05] <eric_> robotgeek, okay, i'm still rather new to ubuntu/debian, how does one edit the services started on boot?
[01:05] <robotgeek> eric_: the newer ones from cvs have gotten better and better ..just feels great!
[01:05] <Bags> In KDE, how does one go about changing CDROM devices?
[01:05] <Bags> I've removed the original mechanism and replaced it with another and now I have no CDROM functionality...
[01:05] <freedomjazzdance> no cds
[01:05] <cafuego> Kira: So why would you need to run pppoe *at all* then?
[01:05] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, just the usual
[01:06] <robotgeek> eric_: okay...many ways to do this, you want to connect your wireless on startup right?
[01:06] <eric_> robotgeek, yea, exactly
[01:06] <robotgeek> eric_: services are started/stopped from /etc/init.d, but this is not your problem!
[01:06] <freedomjazzdance> how do you do that grep search?
[01:06] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: i'm out of questions right now :)
[01:06] <cafuego> OwnageLinux: That's payware.
[01:07] <Seveas> Bags, if no one knows -> try #kubuntu
[01:07] <OwnageLinux> cafuego: Cvs in free... i don't know how to compile it
[01:07] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, you should use Linux for a while before you try to get it to run Windows applications :)
[01:07] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, how would i search to see if there is an instance of cdplayer running?
[01:07] <OwnageLinux> LinuxJones, why? lol
[01:07] <nophix> OwnageLinux: use your warez locations?
[01:07] <Bags> Seveas: Thanks.
[01:07] <robotgeek> eric_: have u seen the howto on the wiki?
[01:07] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, which windows program are you trying to run?
[01:07] <ilovetoastmaker> # Appears as ANNA
[01:07] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, ps | grep or something
[01:07] <OwnageLinux> jtan325: infantry.
[01:07] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: there is a command (not ps), i just can't remember it now :/
[01:07] <WhyvasMCT> anyone know how to hookup a dwl-g122 usb adapter in 6.04 ???
[01:07] <jtan325> oh it's a game?
[01:08] <OwnageLinux> yeah
[01:08] <OwnageLinux> it owns
[01:08] <pfp> gmoore: are you trying to restrict your users with <Limit>, or give them more rights than the filesystem allows?
[01:08] <LinuxJones> OwnageLinux, because you will just frustrate yourself, Linux has lots of programs that do the same things as windows programs but they have different names.
[01:08] <jtan325> LinuxJones, but one of the few weaknesses is support for games
[01:08] <OwnageLinux> Jones: i'm trying to play a game that only runs on windows
[01:08] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, dang... okay!
[01:08] <WhyvasMCT> then install windows
[01:09] <robotgeek> eric_: this link > https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/
[01:09] <TheGnome> OwnageLinux, then use windows
[01:09] <LinuxJones> jtan325, true but dual booting is a better answer than emulation :)
[01:09] <OwnageLinux> TheGnome: Windows sucks though.
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> How can i check the status of an ntfs drive?
[01:09] <jedix> can someone help me get the nvidia kernel module working?
[01:10] <TheGnome> there are cool games for linux..........like     Enemy-Territory ....America's Army.......Cube.....Supertux....uhh Neverball
[01:10] <LinuxJones> jedix, did you follow the wiki page ?
[01:10] <jtan325> LinuxJones, I agree
[01:10] <Grat> Tuxracing :P
[01:10] <daggie>  Linux 99% of the time. the ONLY thing I use 'doze for is gaming.
[01:10] <LinuxJones> jtan325, :)
[01:10] <nophix> what is the command to use too see what processes are using what devices?
[01:10] <jedix> LinuxJones: I followed _a_ wiki
[01:10] <funkyHat> OwnageLinux, do you have cedega?
[01:10] <jedix> LinuxJones: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[01:10] <eric_> robotgeek, thanks :)
[01:10] <jedix> LinuxJones: what wiki are you talking about?
[01:10] <jedix> !nvidia
[01:10] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[01:10] <TheGnome> OwnageLinux, what game are you trying to play?
[01:10] <Bags> Seveas: I asked, but noone is talking in there...
[01:11] <TheGnome> Bags, whats the question?
[01:11] <factotum> anyone know how I would go about doing a color calibration of my monitor??
[01:11] <OwnageLinux> TheGnome: Infantry - kickme.to/infinity-zone  or stationpass.com
[01:11] <robotgeek> eric_: so, wep etc etc working fine?
[01:11] <pfp> nophix: "lsof" (lists open files, but devices are files too, mostly)
[01:11] <OwnageLinux> funkyhat:no
[01:11] <eric_> robotgeek, don't have wep setup at the moment, so I don't know, but its working perfectly unenc.
[01:11] <OwnageLinux> funkyhat: i dont wanna pay for it :\
[01:11] <funkyHat> OwnageLinux, get the CVS version of cedega, it's free and legal
[01:11] <nophix> pfp: yes i know, thanks :)
[01:11] <Kira> cafuego: because the Wi-Fi access point does not take care of logging in.
[01:12] <TheGnome> OwnageLinux, you dont have to pay.........you just need to know where to look
[01:12] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: try lsof
[01:12] <funkyHat> i can't help you install it though, i have the paid-for version
[01:12] <Bags> TheGnome: I've had to remove the original CDROM drive from a PPC UBUNTU system, and have installed another drive in there, but the system won't mount any CDs now that it's in there...
[01:12] <OwnageLinux> funky: i have no clue how to install a cvs though
[01:12] <LinuxJones> jedix, there you go
[01:12] <Bags> TheGnome: Very very green noob here...
[01:12] <TheGnome> Bags, umm..........reinstall
[01:12] <funkyHat> OwnageLinux, someone will be able to help you. you could try the #cedega channel
[01:13] <Bags> You're joking, right?
[01:13] <OwnageLinux> funkyHat: can u compile it for me?
[01:13] <Bags> TheGnome: You're joking, right?
[01:13] <TheGnome> OwnageLinux, if you have limewire or gtk-gnutella you can get the .deb version
[01:13] <funkyHat> OwnageLinux, i can help you compile it, compiling under linux is incredibly easy
[01:13] <factotum> Bags, you might need to alter your kernel to include something, or maybe a module, but thats a whole other ball of wax
[01:13] <Kira> cafuego: in other words, the Wi-Fi access point does not provide NAT/DHCP functions right now. It's the dsl modem that's serving DHCP.
[01:13] <OwnageLinux> ok funkyhat: tell meh :)
[01:13] <TheGnome> Bags, yes......but it would work......does it see the drive at all?
[01:13] <zerboxx> What is a nice torrent program.  I like azureus other than it's memory leak (which I am watching grow as we speak)?
[01:14] <robotgeek> eric_: holler if you need help with wep!
[01:14] <funkyHat> ok, first, get the source, and use synaptic to install the package called build-essential
[01:14] <nophix> zerboxx: bittornado, torrentflux.com
[01:14] <Grat> OwnageLinux: heres a quick hint: wget http://...../cedega*.deb && : sudo dpkg -i cedega*.deb
[01:14] <funkyHat> OwnageLinux, ^
[01:14] <Bags> TheGnome: How can I tell if it sees it or not? It doesn't mount any CDROM disks...
[01:14] <TheGnome> Bags, are you using gnome
[01:15] <robotgeek> too bad ctorrent doesn't work well with most trackers :(
[01:15] <OwnageLinux> Grat: ??
[01:15] <benplaut> anyone here gotten Crossover Office working in breezy?
[01:15] <Bags> TheGnome: No, but I can...
[01:15] <jedix> LinuxJones: I don't have the NVdriver
[01:15] <jedix> module
[01:15] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, thank you sir, i was able to figure it out with that command
[01:15] <Grat> OwnageLinux thats a way to install cedega? ;>
[01:15] <factotum> ugh, fluxbox or enlightenment, i cant decide...gr
[01:15] <OwnageLinux> but its not a site
[01:15] <robotgeek> factotum: openbox with gnome :)
[01:15] <TheGnome> Bags, type        lsmod | grep cdrom
[01:15] <OwnageLinux> Grat:http://...../cedega*.deb there is no site
[01:15] <zerboxx> nophix: Have you used torrentflux.com?
[01:15] <freedomjazzdance> nophix,  nautulus was usingit, i did >>lsof /dev/hdd
[01:15] <LinuxJones> jedix, go here and follow the directions >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:16] <Grat> OwnageLinux: maybe google will help you find it? :>
[01:16] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: oh good, thank pfp for that :)
[01:16] <factotum> fluxbox it is
[01:16] <eric_> robotgeek, okay, thanks
[01:16] <freedomjazzdance> nophix, then i had to kill -9
[01:16] <jedix> LinuxJones: I have
[01:16] <jtan325> factotum, good choice
[01:16] <gmoore> i can't get my proftpd server to follow what i've set up in proftpd.conf, it's only listening to the filesystem permissions. eg i made a group called ftp-upload and a user called upload, with home dir /ftp/upload. documentroot ~ is on so they're locked in there. no matter how i set up <LIMIT>, it only listens to what the directory is chmodded as. anyone familiar with this?
[01:16] <nophix> zerboxx: nah, never tried it
[01:16] <jtan325> i've never used enlightenment my self
[01:16] <TheGnome> factotum, they both suck
[01:16] <jtan325> but fluxbox was fine
[01:16] <LinuxJones> jedix, ok type sudo modprobe nvidia
[01:16] <jtan325> TheGnome, what do you use
[01:17] <factotum> its just habit from running slackware
[01:17] <zerboxx> nophix: Seems interesting, looks indepth which I like, but I'm not sure how it actually works
[01:17] <nophix> freedomjazzdance: good :)
[01:17] <freedomjazzdance> pfp, thanks pfp!
[01:17] <TheGnome> jtan325, what do you think?
[01:17] <jtan325> fvwm? that's what i use now
[01:17] <jedix> LinuxJones: it says the module isn't there
[01:17] <jtan325> by far the best so far
[01:17] <robotgeek> zerboxx: thanks for torrentflux, looks good
[01:17] <jtan325> or openbox, i tried that too, it was alright
[01:17] <LinuxJones> jedix, you didn't install it
[01:17] <factotum> TheGnome: Everything sucks
[01:17] <TheGnome> judging by my name i would say that i am a gnome user ..... lol
[01:17] <nophix> zerboxx: it's php, you need a webserver, apache+php+mysql and bittornado
[01:17] <pfp> freedomjazzdance, nophix, you're welcome :D
[01:17] <TheGnome> factotum, have you tried xfce
[01:18] <factotum> Yes I have
[01:18] <zerboxx> robotgeek: You're looking for a good torrent proggy too?
[01:18] <jedix> LinuxJones: well, apt-get install nvidia-glx says otherwise
[01:18] <nophix> pfp: :)
[01:18] <TheGnome> Bags, did you try
[01:18] <TheGnome> Bags, ?
[01:18] <LinuxJones> jedix, did you do an upgrade today for the new kernel ?
[01:18] <Bags> TheGnome: I get CDROM 51004 2 sr_mod,ide_cd
[01:18] <robotgeek> zerboxx: i am using the official client, works well on my slow ppc box
[01:18] <jedix> LinuxJones: no
[01:18] <jedix> LinuxJones: 2.6.12.3
[01:18] <jtan325> TheGnome, don't tell me you use metacity
[01:19] <LinuxJones> jedix, apt-get udpate && apt-get upgrade
[01:19] <LinuxJones> err update
[01:19] <TheGnome> jtan325, i sure do..............whats wrong with it?
[01:19] <zerboxx> robotgeek: I was using it, then I switched to Azureus but it has a horrible memory leak (I've gone from using 208 before running it to 274 when it started, to 346 now)
[01:19] <robotgeek> zerboxx: azureus starts, and then crashes...on ppc, java sucks!
[01:19] <jedix> LinuxJones: I built my own kernel..
[01:20] <zerboxx> robotgeek: hehe tuchez
[01:20] <LinuxJones> jedix, oh god why ?
[01:20] <OwnageLinux> how do i identify myself to the robot... i alrdy registered
[01:20] <nophix> -a
[01:20] <jedix> LinuxJones: because I don't run distro kernels
[01:20] <LinuxJones> jedix, now you have to compile your nvidia kernel from scratch
[01:20] <benplaut> OwnageLinux, /msg NickServ HELP
[01:20] <herrpoon> hi anyone
[01:20] <TheGnome> nophix, oooooooo thanks
[01:20] <Bags> TheGnome: Is that good?
[01:20] <factotum> built your own kernel, jeez thought i was the only one for a minute there
[01:20] <jtan325> TheGnome, how can you even diss fluxbox or any other window manager then?
[01:20] <herrpoon> can offer some helpl?
[01:20] <jedix> LinuxJones: you mean my nvidia module?
[01:20] <LinuxJones> jedix, that's such a 2001 mentality :)
[01:20] <nophix> TheGnome: np! :)
[01:21] <LinuxJones> jedix, yes
[01:21] <TheGnome> Bags, in the term type eject......see if it opens the drive
[01:21] <LinuxJones> jedix, sticking to the ubuntu kernel is strongly recommended
[01:21] <LinuxJones> jedix, for this and many more reasons
[01:21] <jedix> LinuxJones: I'm fine with that.. how do I get the source/bin crap?
[01:21] <TheGnome> im on the 686-smp kernel
[01:21] <LinuxJones> jedix, man it takes too long to go through all of that
[01:22] <jedix> LinuxJones: is there no wiki on it?
[01:22] <Bags> TheGnome: eject: unable to open 'dev/hdb'
[01:22] <pfp> zerboxx: i _think_ clearing ~/.Azureus helps with the ram usage a little... altough ~400M mem usage is not uncommon for azureus :(
[01:22] <LinuxJones> jedix, you need with a stock ubuntu kernel you have 2 commands to issue with a custom kernel you need like 10 time consuming steps :(
[01:22] <LinuxJones> jedix, no
[01:22] <OwnageLinux> is there a way to make a dual boot with windows and linux? (not windows xp)
[01:23] <jedix> LinuxJones: or even a place I can just get the tgz?  I'm really thinking I should just grab the driver from nvidia.com
[01:23] <zerboxx> pfp: I'm just going to use something else :)
[01:23] <TheGnome> Bags, yeah its not installed.......did you just put it in and hope it would work
[01:23] <zerboxx> pfp: thanks though!
[01:23] <LinuxJones> jedix, just remove the nvidia-glx package and boot into a stock kernel
[01:23] <Bags> TheGnome: Um, well... ah... yeah...
[01:23] <LinuxJones> jedix, there was a new kernel release today
[01:23] <TheGnome> Bags, well in thoery it should......but  hmmmm
[01:24] <TheGnome> Bags, are you using kde
[01:24] <herrpoon> hi, ive just installed ubuntu on an old compter of mine and would like to view it in a window on my other compter, is this possible?
[01:24] <Bags> TheGnome: Yes.
[01:24] <nophix> herrpoon: yes it's possible, with vnc software
[01:24] <TheGnome> Bags, go into control center and into perephrials
[01:24] <Bags> TheGnome: I can switch back to GNOME if it helps...
[01:24] <dubnium> hello, I am having trouble install apps, the error reads: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH.. i installed the latest gcc package and still have an issue
[01:24] <herrpoon> ah ok
[01:24] <TheGnome> Bags, see if you can set up your drive trough there
[01:25] <Bags> TheGnome: Ok.
[01:25] <nophix> herrpoon: i use tightvnc :)
[01:25] <Bags> TheGnome: I'll try it there.
[01:25] <funkyHat> anyone know a good GUI-based sound recording app similar to audacity, but with alsa support?
[01:25] <herrpoon> right
[01:25] <pfp> herrpoon: system - preferences - remote desktop -> allow other to....
[01:25] <nophix> lol
[01:26] <black13> has anyone ever had the error "UDF-fs: no partition found (1) Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknonw-block(1,0)"
[01:26] <LinuxJones> black13, did you compile your own kernel ?
[01:27] <concept10_> funkyHat, ardour
[01:27] <black13> LinuxJones yes
[01:27] <zerboxx> Does anyone here use mrtg?
[01:27] <LinuxJones> black13, man do you HAVE to compile your own kernel ?
[01:27] <jedix> LinuxJones: I couldn't help but notic this new kernel is much older than the one I am running
[01:27] <helloyo> i'm trying to install breezy badger off the cd, but i think there is a driver problem which locks it up, says that it can't use 8139cp and that i should use 8139too instead, but how?
[01:27] <black13> LinuxJones not if there is a better way
[01:27] <bina> can anyone sugest a good vector graphics animator for linux (pref open source)?
[01:28] <concept10> !dualboot
[01:28] <ubotu> I heard dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:28] <max> hi
[01:28] <LinuxJones> jedix, newer mean little if everything works with a stock kernel
[01:28] <black13> LinuxJones i can be hard-headed up to apoint but finally i will listen to reason
[01:28] <funkyHat> OwnageLinux, yes
[01:28] <LinuxJones> black13, you are on a path that is frought with danger :)
[01:28] <max> somehow my update button disappeard from my task bar, how can i restore it?
[01:28] <funkyHat> OwnageLinux, see what ubotu said ^
[01:28] <jedix> this is retarded.
[01:28] <jedix> can it not just get the package and build the module for me
[01:28] <kemik> max:  if there's no updates it disappears
[01:28] <jedix> sweet christ.
[01:29] <helloyo> could somebody give me a hand installing breezy off the latest cd?
[01:29] <LinuxJones> jedix, are you missing any functionality with a stock kernel ?
[01:29] <max> kemik: thanks
[01:29] <TheGnome> ok perfect theme........clearlooks with human window boarder and nouveXT icons
[01:29] <jedix> LinuxJones: none
[01:29] <kemik> max:  i guess you updated recently?  =)
[01:29] <Motty1>  Hi, I have a problem, when I get to the Installer Splash Screen, but when I press enter, I just get a black screen and bunch of lines about my hardware, could someone please help me get this
[01:29] <jedix> LinuxJones: except nvidia's crap
[01:29] <max> kemik: yes
[01:29] <TheGnome> so then why the hell compile your own?
[01:29] <ompaul> !chronos
[01:29] <ubotu> Wish i knew, ompaul
[01:29] <ompaul> doh
[01:29] <black13> LinuxJones what were your thoughts?
[01:30] <TheGnome> Motty1, do you have weird hardware?
[01:30] <jedix> to remove modules and such
[01:30] <ilba7r> what is the command line to logout from x session such as gnome, kde
[01:30] <kemik> helloyo:  change hoary to breezy, "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:30] <kemik> helloyo:  not that it is recommended, especially not if you need help already
[01:30] <LinuxJones> jedix, the whole point of Ubuntu is so that folks don't have to compile anything, It just works :)
[01:30] <helloyo> kemik: ok, if you think thats the best way
[01:30] <TheGnome> ilba7r, ctrl alt backspace
[01:30] <Motty1> no i have normal hardware
[01:30] <Motty1> normal dell hardware
[01:31] <TheGnome> jedix, sounds like you need to be using gentoo   : )
[01:31] <jedix> LinuxJones: I just installed it because mythtv packages existed.
[01:31] <ilba7r> Thegnome does not always restart and i have to reboot
[01:31] <sambagirl>  how do you shutdown ubutu?
[01:31] <ilba7r> thats why i asked for the command line
[01:31] <helloyo> kemik, what do you mean? its not recommended to dist-upgrade? i think the installer is just using a wrong driver, but i dont know how to change it
[01:31] <ilba7r> shutdown o -h
[01:31] <jedix> TheGnome: I didn't say I wanted to compile everything myself, just the kernel
[01:31] <LinuxJones> black13, if a stock Ubuntu kernel works ok for you and you don't need to compile for extra functionality jsut use the stock kernel. It will create alot of work that is not necessary.
[01:31] <kemik> helloyo:  Breezy is not stable, so it can break your entire system
[01:31] <LinuxJones> jedix, that's fine
[01:32] <kemik> jedix:  so download it and compile? ;)
[01:32] <black13> LinuxJones unfortunately i need squasfs
[01:32] <Motty1> thegnome: i have normal dell hardware... can you help me verify my iso ?
[01:32] <jedix> kemik: I did, but the nvidia package won't work for me.
[01:32] <helloyo> kemik, yeah, i realise that, i can fix quite a few things, but no idea how to change the driver
[01:32] <TheGnome> jedix, using the gui log out dont work
[01:32] <TheGnome> Motty1, how do i do that?
[01:32] <kemik> helloyo:  what driver?
[01:32] <Motty1> thegnome i dont know im a noob with linux
[01:33] <jedix> TheGnome: what?
[01:33] <Motty1> TheGnome: Md5 checksum verification
[01:33] <helloyo> kemik, it comes up with an error that says 8139cp not supported, try 8139too
[01:33] <funkyHat> Motty1, are you running linux now? or windows?
[01:33] <sambagirl> shutdown o -h
[01:33] <sambagirl> right?
[01:33] <TheGnome> Motty1, using  a microsoft PC ...well dell same thing.....is not always gonna be compatible with linux
[01:33] <sambagirl> does not work
[01:33] <Motty1> funkyhat: windows xp sp2
[01:34] <Motty1> thegnome: oh
[01:34] <TheGnome> ahhhhhhh
[01:34] <kemik> helloyo:  perhaps get the driversoftware from manufacturer, compile and then "modprobe"
[01:34] <LinuxJones> black13, you will be compiling every kernel when a security problem arises and associated modules like 3rd party drivers each time as well :(
[01:34] <sambagirl> how do you shutdown ubuntu to reboot it/
[01:34] <sambagirl> ?
[01:34] <kemik> helloyo:  in worst case scenario you'll have to recompile the kernel aswell :/
[01:34] <LinuxJones> sambagirl, shutdown -r now
[01:34] <kemik> sambagirl:  "reboot"
[01:34] <MrPockets> system, log off, reboot
[01:34] <TheGnome> Motty1, try downloading a small linux distro like.......DSL or something...see if that boots
[01:34] <sambagirl> what cahh ok
[01:34] <helloyo> kemik, i think i'll wait then... haven't had problems before, so i guess it will be fixed
[01:35] <Motty1> TheGnome: im on my laptop sitting next to the comp im trying to put linux on
[01:35] <tristanmike> TheGnome: why are Dells not Linux friendly??
[01:35] <TheGnome> ive seen linux on dells before
[01:35] <kemik> helloyo:  but your NIC is not working now ?
[01:35] <dubnium> anyone know how to edit $PATH to contain gcc c complier?
[01:35] <jtan325> i'm using linux right now, on a dell inspiron 8500
[01:36] <TheGnome> dells are evil
[01:36] <kemik> helloyo:  i think you can try to get the 8139too source/binary and modprobe it
[01:36] <jtan325> dubnium, you shouldn't have to do that
[01:36] <helloyo> kemik, i am using hoary at the moment, and its working fie
[01:36] <zerboxx> Does anyone here use mrtg?
[01:36] <dubnium> hello, I am having trouble install apps, the error reads: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH.. i installed the latest gcc package and still have an issue
[01:36] <jtan325> dubnium, but if you must
[01:36] <tristanmike> Yeah, Dells may be evil, but lots of people run them
[01:36] <kemik> helloyo:   oh.. i c.. so why isit complaining? =)
[01:36] <LinuxJones> black13, all of that stuff is done for you but the nice folks in the Ubuntu devel team. All you have to do is keep your system upgraded regularly.
[01:36] <helloyo> kemik, the installer stops at something like "Downloading file 7 of 8"
[01:36] <jtan325> it would something like "export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/gcc"
[01:36] <helloyo> kemik, haha, exactly
[01:36] <jtan325> and you'd put that in your .bashrc
[01:36] <dubnium> how can i find the path to gc?
[01:36] <TheGnome> hey man I own a dell too
[01:36] <tristanmike> what would cause the installer to come up with an Installer Screen then after enter not do anything
[01:36] <TheGnome> just not my linux machine
[01:37] <black13> so i could get a kernel with squashfs support?
[01:37] <jedix> LinuxJones: well the stock kernel won't boot
[01:37] <pfp> dubnium: what does "which gcc" say?
[01:37] <dubnium> i just installed 4
[01:38] <tristanmike> TheGnome: I like dells myself, looking into getting their laptop
[01:38] <LinuxJones> black13, what is that ?
[01:38] <LinuxJones> jedix, at what point does it fail ?
[01:38] <TheGnome> tristanmike, dells used to be good......they have gone downhill with hardware....using the cheapest of cheap components
[01:39] <pfp> dubnium: try installing "build-essential" instead
[01:39] <tristanmike> TheGnome: I wouldn't get one for a Desktop, but for a laptop, sure
[01:39] <dubnium> k i'll try that
[01:39] <TheGnome> jedix, if the stock kernel dont boot how did you compile your own?
[01:39] <black13> LinuxJones (god i love that name) how do i go about getting a 2.6 kernel with squashfs support via the apt-get proces?
[01:39] <sambagirl> heh
[01:39] <sambagirl> nice clean machien now
[01:39] <sambagirl> wow you should see all the stuff on my desktop my stars
[01:39] <Concord_Dawn> anyone know what the traceroute command is in Ubuntu?
[01:39] <black13> BlackBeltJones
[01:40] <velox_> The mind boggles. dpkg installing itself.
[01:40] <LinuxJones> jedix, don't forget you modified your xorg config file to load the nvidia modules which aren't on that machine for your kernel
[01:40] <black13> route
[01:40] <kemik> Concord_Dawn:  traceroute? =)
[01:40] <dubnium> ya that contents looks liek it should work
[01:40] <TheGnome> tristanmike, yeah laptops are cool
[01:40] <Concord_Dawn> kemik, nope.
[01:40] <velox_> That has to cause some sort of temporal distortion or something...its like the chicken and the egg.
[01:40] <kemik> Concord_Dawn:  apt-get it
[01:40] <tristanmike> TheGnome: I'm touring with an Acting Group in september and I'd like to get a portable Ubuntu
[01:40] <jedix> LinuxJones: I didn't say x failed, I said the stock kernel will not boot
[01:40] <jedix> TheGnome: it did work
[01:40] <jedix> now it doesn't
[01:41] <sakon> hi here  downloaded a theme from gnome-look.com but cant run it  any piece of advice?
[01:41] <zerboxx> Has anyone here installed torrentflux?
[01:41] <TheGnome> sakon, what theme
[01:41] <sakon> sorry gnome-look.org
[01:41] <OwnageLinux> dude u extract it with the archivier zerboxx
[01:41] <LinuxJones> jedix, how did you install Ubuntu without the stock kernel working ?
[01:41] <TheGnome> sakon, did you untar it?
[01:41] <jedix> It did work, now it won't boot
[01:41] <sakon> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=23679 this one
[01:41] <zerboxx> OwnageLinux: wha?
[01:41] <dubnium> pfp, kinda worked but now I get this :configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[01:41] <sakon> TheGnome: yes i did
[01:42] <dubnium> have anything to do with the other stuff i installed.. should i uninstall it
[01:42] <kemik> dubnium:  got the "build-essential" package installed?
[01:42] <TheGnome> sakon, your not supposed to..............just leave it tarred and drag it into the themes app
[01:42] <dubnium> yup
[01:42] <tristanmike> sakon: you shouldn't need to untar it
[01:42] <LinuxJones> black13, I am not sure if you can patch or compile a module for your kernel with that functionality. Maybe you could ask in #ubuntu-devel, Explain your situation and ask for advise...someone may have pitty on you :)
[01:42] <sakon> ok ok  ill try again
[01:42] <pfp> dubnium: you don't have the gtk development pkg installed; prolly you'll need other dev packages aswell
[01:43] <kemik> dubnium:  libgtk-2.1-dev perhaps
[01:43] <jedix> LinuxJones: it did work.. clearly, but now it doesn't
[01:43] <tristanmike> sakon: just open up the themes window
[01:43] <LinuxJones> jedix, what error comes up when it stops working ?
[01:43] <pfp> dubnium: install at least libgtk2.0-dev
[01:43] <tristanmike> sakon: System-->Preferences-->Theme and "install new theme" and just pick the archive
[01:43] <black13> LinuxJones ... ok ill take this tact ... just get the kernel to work first without the udf-fs errors then worry about patching it
[01:43] <kemik> dubnium:  libgtk2.0-dev
[01:44] <sakon> tristanmike: i did some but i get back an invalid format
[01:44] <tristanmike> what theme did you download exactly?
[01:44] <lz> is there a tutorial for installing tor onto my newly installed ubuntu?
[01:44] <pfp> dubnium: "apt-cache search something dev" to look for other devel packages...
[01:44] <dubnium> kemik, seems its not installed, no installing 16 packages
[01:44] <TheGnome> sakon, yeah it said invalid format when it was untarred right
[01:45] <sakon> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=23679 this one
[01:45] <black13> LinuxJones what are the commands to build the kernel?
[01:45] <sakon> TheGnome: both
[01:45] <LinuxJones> black13, you can also request functionality to be added to a stock kernel, the developers are very good about things like that, they want to keep their user base happy :)
[01:45] <TheGnome> sakon, let me try
[01:45] <sakon> TheGnome: untared and tared
[01:45] <sakon> TheGnome: ok
[01:45] <LinuxJones> black13, that's a long process :D
[01:45] <kemik> dubnium:  lets hope it works after that then =)
[01:46] <Fanskap> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[01:46] <Fanskap> See `config.log' for more details.
[01:46] <sakon> TheGnome: i already found the problem
[01:46] <jedix> LinuxJones: I'd love to tell you but I can't see it.
[01:46] <Fanskap> anyone know how to solve this ? trying to compile mysql
[01:46] <dubnium> heh thats what im working on fanskap
[01:46] <sakon> TheGnome: did not read the description under the theme
[01:47] <LinuxJones> jedix, hit ctrl+alt+F2
[01:47] <TheGnome> sakon, what does it say
[01:47] <Fanskap> i see
[01:47] <tristanmike> TheGnome: it's a .zip
[01:47] <TheGnome> AHHHHHHH
[01:47] <jedix> LinuxJones: Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init!
[01:47] <pfp> Fanskap: do you have a special reason to compile mysql?
[01:47] <TheGnome> Canadian Grass
[01:47] <nophix> Fanskap: why compile when there's a package?
[01:48] <kemik> Fanskap:  got "build-essential" installed?
[01:48] <Fanskap> ahh
[01:48] <sakon> TheGnome: i have to untar it to the gnome-theme-manager
[01:48] <jedix> LinuxJones: the keyboard does nothing at this point.
[01:48] <sakon> TheGnome: do u know where this one is located
[01:48] <LinuxJones> jedix, is that one of your old kernels ?
[01:48] <Fanskap> I want a custom build of php5-apache and mysql
[01:48] <TheGnome> sakon, thats not what it says
[01:48] <Fanskap> way easier to update if i compile it by my self afterwards
[01:49] <LinuxJones> jedix, maybe that didn't work
[01:49] <lz> can someone teach me how to get tor installed please?  i've done apt-get install tor privoxy but tells me that "/var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID"
[01:49] <jedix> LinuxJones: no, I rebooted to go into your suggested stock kernel
[01:49] <pfp> Fanskap: k, you need to install build-essential then (like kemik said)
[01:49] <lz> so should i chown myID /var/lib/tor ?
[01:49] <sakon> TheGnome: ok so to the other themes i think
[01:49] <dubnium> kemik, pfp, thanx seems to work now
[01:49] <jedix> LinuxJones: and for some reason my working kernel has been removed from my grub.conf
[01:49] <kemik> dubnium:  cool :)
[01:49] <sakon> TheGnome: or do u mean just a dir with /.themes
[01:49] <Concord_Dawn> jedix, you mean menu.lst?
[01:49] <LinuxJones> jedix, you must have had a working kernel after installation
[01:50] <Fanskap> pfp ahh yeah just thought that out :)
[01:50] <TheGnome> sakon, yeah unzip to .themes
[01:50] <jedix> Concord_Dawn: they are fucking symlinked
[01:50] <Fanskap> thought i had installed that allready but that was on my laptop installation  :)
[01:50] <Fanskap> getting tired i guess
[01:50] <TheGnome> sakon, i think it is in your home folder
[01:50] <kemik> Fanskap:  it's only 2am.. the night is young ;)
[01:50] <Concord_Dawn> language jedix
[01:51] <sakon> TheGnome: yeah im trying already
[01:51] <TheGnome> sakon, didnt work for me
[01:51] <vitriol> i'm having trouble getting ati drivers installed on hoary
[01:51] <jedix> LinuxJones: yes I did, but this one clearly doesn't.. and it's listed like 4 times and only memtest86 is the other one
[01:51] <vitriol> error message is: [fglrx:firegl_init_32compat_ioctls]  *ERROR* unable to register ioctl32 0
[01:51] <jedix> awesome.
[01:52] <vitriol> anybody know a fix for that?
[01:52] <TheGnome> vitriol, what did you try
[01:52] <black13> LinuxJones what make-kpkg
[01:52] <vitriol> TheGnome: well i tried installing them myself from ati
[01:52] <jedix> LinuxJones: I am running a 64bit box if that has anything to do with it
[01:52] <vitriol> TheGnome: that didn't work :) same exact message
[01:52] <jedix> or I was.
[01:52] <black13> what about using make-kpkg
[01:52] <sakon> TheGnome: for me did not work too
[01:52] <TheGnome> vitriol, thats your problem
[01:52] <tristanmike> sakon: the themes folder is in your homes directory but you have to "Show hidden files"
[01:52] <vitriol> TheGnome: what?
[01:52] <sakon> TheGnome: somewhere is a bug
[01:52] <Fanskap> kemik, mm not if you're going to a party tomorow :)
[01:53] <TheGnome> vitriol, use the ubuntu video drivers
[01:53] <sakon> tristanmike: already did
[01:53] <TheGnome> !ati
[01:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:53] <sakon> tristanmike: did not work
[01:53] <tristanmike> sakon: sorry, little behind'
[01:53] <vitriol> TheGnome: i get the same error message with the ubuntu ati drivers
[01:53] <TheGnome> vitriol, ^
[01:53] <vitriol> TheGnome: i tried those first
[01:53] <LinuxJones> jedix, perhaps it would be faster to do a re-install and stick with the stock kernel
[01:53] <sakon> tristanmike: does not matter
[01:53] <vitriol> TheGnome: xorg-drivers-fglrx ;)
[01:53] <TheGnome> vitriol, what card u got?
[01:53] <Karhuton> vitriol, I get that too
[01:53] <OwnageLinux> Guys do u no where the direct connection feature is on gaim/
[01:53] <tristanmike> sakon: you are running Gnome, right?
[01:53] <sakon> yeah
[01:53] <Karhuton> vitriol, But no problems with OpenGL or XV acceleration
[01:53] <TheGnome> vitriol, did you edit xorg.conf
[01:53] <sakon> tristanmike: hope so ;)
[01:54] <Karhuton> vitriol, Nor tv-out
[01:54] <vitriol> TheGnome: TheGnome well...no i didn't
[01:54] <tristanmike> sakon: your not running Kubuntu are you i mean?
[01:54] <jedix> LinuxJones: that's the worst idea I have ever heard
[01:54] <TheGnome> vitriol, there ya go
[01:54] <vitriol> TheGnome: since the module isn't loaded there's not much point :(
[01:54] <OwnageLinux> Guys do u no where the direct connection feature is on gaim
[01:54] <kemik> any way to mass-rename files? like ABDS to ABDS.mp3 ?
[01:54] <Wanderer_> Can someone help a frustrated noob? I can't even get Ubuntu to install, for cryin' out loud!
[01:54] <mirak> why isn't there an authentication prompt from the shell when you try to do something on which you don't have the rights, just like the GUI do ?
[01:54] <Karhuton> vitrol, so I don't see any effects from it :) Using 8.16, or what ever the version was. *16* something :\
[01:54] <TheGnome> vitriol, well did you add the module?
[01:54] <sakon> tristanmike: no
[01:54] <LinuxJones> jedix, or you would boot into your own kernel and undo the nvidia-glx stuff
[01:54] <OwnageLinux> Guys do u no where the direct connection feature is on gaim
[01:54] <vitriol> TheGnome: [fglrx:firegl_init_32compat_ioctls]  *ERROR* unable to register ioctl32 0 <<<<what i get when i try to modprobe the module
[01:54] <Fanskap> phew.. damn.. seems to take ages to update the freebsd ports collection :)
[01:55] <pfp> kemik: "rename"
[01:55] <ilovetoastmaker> # Appears as ANNA
[01:55] <TheGnome> vitriol, hmmm i was just talking to someone who had the same problem
[01:55] <jedix> LinuxJones: I have it booting now
[01:55] <Fanskap> Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..
[01:55] <surfdue> what command do i use to findout what is using my sound driver
[01:55] <Fanskap> been saying that for a while :)
[01:55] <LinuxJones> jedix, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select vesa as the video card driver and select defaults for everyting else
[01:55] <jedix> LinuxJones: but I'd like to get the stock kernel working like you did
[01:55] <Wanderer_> Hello?
[01:55] <surfdue> lsof .. what?
[01:55] <sakon> TheGnome: did u try something new? or did u let it go?
[01:55] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, hello
[01:55] <vitriol> TheGnome: see, this is what i get when i try to modprobe it: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:55] <LinuxJones> jedix, well good luck with that
[01:56] <jedix> LinuxJones: it is not the nvidia driver that is causing the kernel to not boot.
[01:56] <kemik> pfp:  hmm, always use mv.. gotta man that stuff, does it use reg.exps=
[01:56] <TheGnome> sakon, i just let it go .....im not a fan of that theme
[01:56] <Wanderer_> Can someone help me get Ubuntu installed?
[01:56] <LinuxJones> jedix, I am off for a cig and beer good luck
[01:56] <tristanmike> sakon: i think I have the solution.....
[01:56] <sakon> tristanmike: yes?
[01:56] <sakon> tristanmike: tell me pls
[01:56] <pfp> kemik: yep, for example rename 's/$/.mp3/' ~/mp3-blaa/*
[01:57] <tristanmike> sakon: go to the Themes selector again
[01:57] <pfp> .. to add the suffix
[01:57] <sakon> tristanmike: ok
[01:57] <kemik> pfp:  thx
[01:57] <tristanmike> sakon: this time select one of the current themes, whichever one, it doesn't matter
[01:57] <sakon> tristanmike: ok
[01:57] <Wanderer_> Could some one help me?
[01:57] <TheGnome> theme details
[01:57] <Wanderer_> Please?
[01:57] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, whats the problem
[01:57] <tristanmike> sakon: now pick theme details
[01:57] <sakon> tristanmike: ok
[01:58] <ilovetoastmaker> (#G010E476RM1) any idea how how to get a usb pc port to work, i need to connect to the internet on linux
[01:58] <sakon> tristanmike: ah i see
[01:58] <kemik> thats a powerful tool. will keep that in mind in the future
[01:58] <synd> whats the irssi command to load scripts
[01:58] <tristanmike> sakon: go to window boarder
[01:58] <alec> synd: /script
[01:58] <sakon> tristanmike: ok
[01:58] <tristanmike> sakon: do you see it there?
[01:59] <synd> 
[01:59] <synd> hmm
[01:59] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, you there!!!!!
[01:59] <tristanmike> sakon: do you see it??
[01:59] <zerboxx> I'm setting up Apache and mysql, and I was wondering if someone can talk to me 1on1 for a minute or two just to make sure I don't mess anything up
[01:59] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, if you want help you may have to talk to me
[01:59] <tristanmike> sakon: cause I do in mine
[02:00] <sakon> tristanmike: i do too
[02:00] <Wanderer_> I can't get the installer to behave. It gets to the part where I'm supposed to press "enter" and it's supposed to do its' thing. Instead, it gives me loading messages, reboots, and then goes back to the same screen, where I repeat the process, ad infintium.
[02:00] <sakon> tristanmike: thanks
[02:00] <sakon> tristanmike: god bless u
[02:00] <sakon> tristanmike: :)
[02:00] <tristanmike> sakon: I spent 3 weeks trying to find my themes when they were here all the time....
[02:00] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, what kind of hardware do you have
[02:00] <sakon> tristanmike: ah i see
[02:00] <Wanderer_> That is, I press "enter" it does that.
[02:00] <tristanmike> sakon: It's missleading cause they're not themes, per se
[02:01] <Wanderer_> Hardware? What, specifically?
[02:01] <sakon> tristanmike: i just spent days setting up a wifi in windows
[02:01] <jono> has anyopne got a working up to date breezy?
[02:01] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, what kind of computer do you have] 
[02:02] <sakon> tristanmike: and in ubuntu it was managed in hours
[02:02] <vitriol> is there and amd64-agp module?
[02:02] <sakon> tristanmike: or better said minuts
[02:02] <Wanderer_> HP with Windows XP OS (SP 02).
[02:02] <sakon> tristanmike: or better said minutes
[02:02] <fanskapet> hmm is the dri support broken in the ati driver for mobility chipsets?
[02:02] <tristanmike> sakon: I hear that, I feel like I'm an Ubuntu success story, not a problem...just lack of knowlege
[02:02] <vitriol> fanskapet: problems?
[02:02] <vitriol> fanskapet: i'm having issues too
[02:02] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, hardware????????  uhh processer ram that type of thing
[02:02] <LinuxJones> TheGnome, good idea :)
[02:03] <vitriol> Trying to register duplicated ioctl32 handler c0246400 < stuff like that in dmesg when trying to load the fglrx driver, fanskapet?
[02:03] <sakon> tristanmike: but thanks  ill soon come up with another problem ull see
[02:03] <tristanmike> sakon: I'm here everyday with problems of my own
[02:03] <fanskapet> vitriol dunno just installed the driver and ran the fglrx_gears app
[02:03] <fanskapet> but i guess one should get more fps than ~300 fps?
[02:03] <tristanmike> sakon: glad I could help, especially cause the themes thing irritated me for so long
[02:04] <mike23> greetings
[02:04] <vitriol> fanskapet: i'd tell you if i could get the driver installed ;)
[02:04] <mike23> what is the password for admin tasks under cups iin ubuntu?
[02:04] <alxarch> rhx where are you?
[02:04] <LinuxJones> mike23, your users password
[02:04] <vitriol> screw it i'm going to try breezy out
[02:04] <LinuxJones> mike23, if you installed Ubuntu
[02:04] <mike23> negative does not work
[02:04] <sakon> tristanmike: with the most obvious things are the most problems
[02:05] <fanskapet> vitriol :)
[02:05] <Wanderer_> Ummm... HP Pavillion PC with Intel Celeron CPU 2.93 GHz 248 MB RAM.
[02:05] <LinuxJones> mike23, so the account that your using was not the one that you created when you installed Ubuntu ?
[02:05] <sockpuppe1> if I just compiled and installed JACK, do I have to restart for it to work
[02:05] <sockpuppe1> ?
[02:05] <tristanmike> sakon: murphy's law, if I ever met Murphy, i'd slap him in the face with a Trout
[02:05] <mike23> no
[02:05] <jono> anyone have troubles with libdri1-xorg ?
[02:05] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, hmm that should be fine.........did you download the cd or get it in the mail
[02:05] <tristanmike> sakon: and say, "why'd you create so many problematic laws"
[02:05] <Wanderer_> Mail.
[02:05] <mike23> it says localhost
[02:06] <jedix> hrm
[02:06] <LinuxJones> mike23, can you log back in using the account you installed Ubuntu with ?
[02:06] <jedix> still won't boot the stock kernel
[02:06] <mike23> but I never gave localhost a user name
[02:06] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, oooooo.........did you try hitting f1 instead of enter
[02:06] <sockpuppe1> can someone enlighten me
[02:06] <sockpuppe1> ?
[02:06] <Wanderer_> Yep.
[02:06] <TheGnome> sockpuppe1, ok with what
[02:06] <sockpuppe1> lol
[02:06] <mike23> what?
[02:06] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, the only thing i can think of...is to google it
[02:06] <mike23> I have one user me
[02:06] <LinuxJones> mike23, I don't know what that means
[02:07] <sockpuppe1> if i just compiled and installed JACK do I have to restart for it to work
[02:07] <Wanderer_> GOOGLE IT ???
[02:07] <sakon> tristanmike: :)
[02:07] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, yes google it
[02:07] <LinuxJones> mike23, waht are you using to try to configure cups ?
[02:07] <sakon> tristanmike: where are u from?
[02:07] <Wanderer_> How would that help me?
[02:07] <mike23> http://localhost:631
[02:07] <tristanmike> sakon: the Great White North Canada
[02:08] <LinuxJones> mike23, try sudo gnome-cups-manager
[02:08] <sakon> tristanmike: u like icehockey?
[02:08] <LinuxJones> sakon, all Canadian boys like hockey :)
[02:08] <mike23> oh kay
[02:08] <blrich> can someone help? I can't get my webcam recognised. I'm wondering where I should look for drivers or what I should do
[02:08] <tristanmike> sakon: i don't think there is a Canadian alive who doesn't like hockey
[02:08] <tristanmike> road or ice
[02:08] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, cuz i have found alot of answers that way
[02:08] <brk3> could someone tell me what argument do you give to dpkg to upgrade a package?
[02:09] <sockpuppe1> blrich what camera model?
[02:09] <sakon> tristanmike: ice
[02:09] <Wanderer_> How can I google a problem when I don't know what it is?
[02:09] <gmoore> ftp question: i got my server set up properly but when i get someone to connect they get "500: Illegal port command" and cannot complete the connection. ideas?
[02:09] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, you ask here :)
[02:09] <tristanmike> sakon: ice or road, it doens't matter to us, we do have a summer and still have to play hockey, so road hockey it is
[02:09] <TheGnome> Wanderer_, omg ......... just use windows
[02:09] <mike23> liuxJones: thanks you da man
[02:09] <sakon> tristanmike: ah i see
[02:09] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, what is happening that is causing you grief ?
[02:09] <blrich> sockpuppe1, it's called amn Omni Golden Eye, but it's just generic I think. It has night vision. Works under windows no problem, just your standard 640x480 30fps webcam
[02:09] <LinuxJones> mike23, have fun :)
[02:10] <sockpuppe1> lol, that was so l337 of you lol
[02:10] <zerboxx> I'm following a guide to set up apache and mysql, and I deleted my main user (jon) from mysql.user.  Should I worry about adding myself again, or am I ok with just "root"?
[02:10] <LinuxJones> jono, when does next season of LugRadio start up ?
[02:10] <sakon> tristanmike: so the nhl begins but im not so happy cause all of our good players are going to the oversea leagues
[02:10] <crlsnr> hi everyone...has anyone been successful with using a WUSB11v2.5 usb adapter in Hoary?
[02:10] <TheGnome> hey what is the package i need to get mp3 support in rythmbox?
[02:11] <jtan325> !media
[02:11] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, jtan325
[02:11] <jtan325> !restrictedformats
[02:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[02:11] <mike23> anyone looking to use an ncurses great irc client google bnirc
[02:11] <tristanmike> sakon: they'll be back
[02:11] <sakon> tristanmike: wont be such good hockey like it was this year in our first league
[02:11] <sockpuppe1> brb
[02:11] <LinuxJones> TheGnome, >> gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:11] <mike23> it works with festival tts
[02:11] <jono> LinuxJones, Oct 24th should be Season 3 Episode 1 :)
[02:11] <Luna-Tick> Hello folks, does anyone here know about silcgaim in Ubuntu?
[02:11] <elvirolo> hi all, could anyone tell me a play of converting mpc files to ogg ? sox doesn't seem to handle mpc files
[02:11] <TheGnome> LinuxJones, thank you
[02:12] <LinuxJones> jono, I wonder if Breezy Badger release will be mentioned on the show :)
[02:12] <Wanderer_> I can't get the installer to behave. It goes to the first screen fine, and I press "enter". It says a bunch of stuff about uncompressing this or that, then says something about the kernel (I can't say exactly what, since the text moves so fast). Then the PC reboots, goes to the first screen, and the whole process starts over.
[02:12] <jono> LinuxJones, heh, I have a hunch it will ;)
[02:12] <tristanmike> sakon: no, I hope the salary caps will get groups of players who just want to play hockey and not make a gazzilion dollars, that's when hockey get's good
[02:12] <jono> I am trying to get breezy working right
[02:12] <LinuxJones> jono, BTW I think that is too long of a break !!
[02:12] <brk3> do people here hate kubuntu?? Ive just being told you do
[02:13] <elvirolo> idas anyone ?
[02:13] <crimsun> elvirolo: use mpcdec
[02:13] <LinuxJones> jono, I want a weekly fix of lugradio
[02:13] <Grat> brk3 why should we?
[02:13] <crimsun> elvirolo: pipe the output to oggenc's stdin
[02:13] <Grat> the only diffrence is KDE
[02:13] <benplaut> OK, OK, maybe that was a bit excessive
[02:13] <Wanderer_> Linux Jones?
[02:13] <Luna-Tick> Linuxjones - I don't hate kubuntu, it just doesn't seem to work as well...
[02:13] <sakon> tristanmike: what are salary caps
[02:13] <benplaut> install Hoary so that crossover office will install, then emulate from within breezy :P
[02:13] <sakon> tristanmike: ?
[02:13] <fissy> hello... i'm using ubuntu breezy and am being driven slowly mad by the panel dying every 5 minutes... is that a known issue?
[02:13] <brk3> Grat: no reason at all, just some idiot said ye do
[02:13] <TheGnome> brk3, i dont
[02:13] <tristanmike> sakon: it's why the nhl was on strike. A money issue between the players and the owners
[02:13] <crimsun> fissy: "breezy".
[02:14] <TheGnome> brk3, i just like gnome better
[02:14] <blrich> can anyone help? can;t get my webcam recognised. lsusb gives this:   Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. Sansun SN-510 WebCam [hv713d]        any suggestions?
[02:14] <fissy> crimsun: ?
[02:14] <jono> LinuxJones, heh
[02:14] <kafeine> fissy, there is a reason it's refferred to as 'testing'
[02:14] <Grat> brk3: you just tell him that....
[02:14] <kafeine> anyways
[02:14] <brk3> Grat: i will :)
[02:14] <fissy> so you don't want it fixed then?
[02:14] <TheGnome> brk3, i have found kubuntu to be a little more buggy
[02:14] <kafeine> anyone had any luck with ati drivers under breezy?
[02:14] <LinuxJones> jono, :)
[02:14] <fissy> what a ridiculous thing to sy
[02:14] <fissy> say
[02:14] <brk3> TheGnome: thats what he said
[02:14] <fissy> i know it's the development distro
[02:15] <tristanmike> sakon: some teams, don't get all that much money, and therefore can't afford the big players, and since they can't, they fall further and further behind the winning teams.
[02:15] <TheGnome> brk3, but not much at all
[02:15] <TheGnome> brk3, i fixed all the bug by doing some tweaking
[02:15] <crlsnr> who here is good at connecting with wlan?
[02:15] <crimsun> fissy: there're quite a lot of things in flux in Breezy. The issue is known. Be patient, or revert to Hoary.
[02:15] <sakon> tristanmike: ah i see
[02:15] <zerboxx> Can anybody here help me with an apache setup? I'm working through the wiki but I'd still like a hand
[02:16] <tristanmike> sakon: the salary cap is in place to stop one team from buying up all the good players. Basically each team is allowed to spend "X" ammount on players and anymore than that would have to be negociated
[02:16] <sakon> tristanmike: its alway about money . so
[02:16] <kafeine> fissy, it's actually a known issue of gnome-panel. it does it, every now and then. it happens in hoary, even
[02:16] <sakon> tristanmike: bill doesnt work for free too ;)
[02:16] <fissy> ok, all i was wondering was whether i should make a bugzilla post or not crimsun. is there any fix known?
[02:16] <ubercompuser> kubuntu has been buggy with the gui... for me. back when i did use it for a week
[02:16] <splitta> any showstoppers in colony3 we should know about ?
[02:16] <fissy> hmm... not every 5 minutes :D
[02:16] <tristanmike> sakon: but the salary cap is to stop the salarys from reaching too high
[02:16] <crimsun> splitta: please read the posts regarding Colony 3 on -users
[02:17] <kafeine> fissy, whenever you wonder about some bug like this, and wheter to post it or not, try searching the bugzilla first for this specific issue
[02:17] <tristanmike> sakon: the ONLY money Bill ever got out of me was for my mouse and keyboard
[02:17] <kafeine> to see it it's reported already or not
[02:17] <fissy> kafeine: i did
[02:17] <TheGnome> tristanmike, why did he even get that?
[02:17] <ubercompuser> i think kubuntu should create there own release dates and not rely on someone else so they can debugg it and make it run smoother
[02:17] <tristanmike> sakon: and that's ALL he will ever get if I can knowingly help it
[02:17] <TheGnome> tristanmike, lol
[02:17] <fissy> but when you don't know more than 'it crashes a lot' bugzilla isn't so helpful
[02:17] <sakon> tristanmike: we made a joke with a wallpaper out of his new vista
[02:17] <tristanmike> TheGnome: You don't have to give me a papercut, then pour lemon juice on it. I feel dirty enough....
[02:18] <kafeine> bugzilla ain't exactly an example of an user-friend application, true
[02:18] <tristanmike> TheGnome, lol
[02:18] <TheGnome> tristanmike, well you do have a dell.....which is owned by microsoft
[02:18] <sakon> tristanmike: its pretty simple Virus Infectin Spyware Trojans Adware  thats all the new OS is made of
[02:18] <tristanmike> TheGnome: I don't own one...yet
[02:18] <Grat> hehe :>
[02:18] <sakon> tristanmike: but Vista could be pretty interesting
[02:19] <tristanmike> TheGnome: I had my computer custom built
[02:19] <TheGnome> i built mine myself
[02:19] <tristanmike> TheGnome, with Asus and nVidia parts
[02:19] <TheGnome> and it was soo cheap
[02:19] <sakon> tristanmike: there shouldnt be any foulders but only objects
[02:19] <kafeine> i can't see the point in buying a computer built by some company like dell
[02:19] <grigora> what do I need to do to play a DVD movie with Totem? or is Totem not for DVDs? thanks
[02:19] <kafeine> or whatever company it is...
[02:19] <abyss> lo where i can get an mp3 codec for playing mp3s?
[02:19] <kafeine> grigora, sudo apt-get install totem-xine libdvdcss2
[02:19] <tristanmike> TheGnome, Dell is owned by Microsoft??
[02:20] <TheGnome> tristanmike, they are now
[02:20] <kafeine> computers are made to be custom built...
[02:20] <kafeine> thats the fun in computing, after all
[02:20] <Tom-W> is the 5.10 build allot better than the 5.04 build? I got 5.04 at a local PC shop but I see 5.10 is out
[02:20] <tristanmike> TheGnome, thanx you just settled it for me, i was gonna buy their laptop, guess not now....
[02:20] <kafeine> Tom-W, it is not out yet
[02:20] <pcharky> Hello there, can anybody help me get the line-in on my SB Aud2 to work?
[02:20] <kafeine> it's testing
[02:20] <Tom-W> what?
[02:21] <jbull> abyss:  the gstreamer-mad package should do it
[02:21] <TheGnome> tristanmike, no .... they are still good pc's im sure bill dont get ALL of the money lol
[02:21] <grigora> kafeine: thanks
[02:21] <kargath64> hey, anyone know of any free software that can resize partitions?  I need one to install ubuntu...
[02:21] <Tom-W> is the testing version better than 5.04?
[02:21] <kafeine> Tom-W, the 5.10 is not out yet. what is out is a testing pre-release
[02:21] <kafeine> kh..
[02:21] <abyss> how i can get this? im a little bit new to, old debian user :)
[02:21] <kafeine> well, it is newer, you can count on that
[02:21] <tristanmike> TheGnome, he won't get a penny from me, knowingly, he's condemed OSS since the beginning
[02:21] <Tom-W> lol
[02:21] <kafeine> but it can't par with hoary's stability, yet.
[02:21] <fissy> is there likely to be a pre-release on gnome 2.12's release day/
[02:21] <kemik> abyss:  apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:21] <Grat> kargath64: i dont know if its free, but there is partition magic for windows
[02:22] <kargath64> :(
[02:22] <fissy> i've found those releases to be perfectly stable enough the past couple of times
[02:22] <benplaut> breezy is pretty stable for me, so far
[02:22] <kargath64> 90 bucks
[02:22] <abyss> lol pretty easy the debian way ;)
[02:22] <abyss> thx
[02:22] <tristanmike> TheGnome, If I had been aware of Linux earlier, I would've migrated long ago
[02:22] <kafeine> breezy's stable for me too:)
[02:22] <Grat> kargath64: ah sorry
[02:22] <kargath64> can the installer handle partitioning?
[02:22] <tristanmike> I DON'T LIKE BULLIES!
[02:22] <kemik> abyss:  ubuntu is sortof like debian, but even easier ;)
[02:22] <kafeine> and for a lot of us
[02:22] <kafeine> kargath64, yes
[02:22] <TheGnome> tristanmike, well i dont think bill knew his os would be condemed to virus's and such
[02:23] <kargath64> but I lose the data, yeah?
[02:23] <kafeine> but i wouldn't recommend breezy to newbies yet
[02:23] <kafeine> kargath64, depends
[02:23] <kafeine> what exactly do you want to do?
[02:23] <Luna-Tick> kargath the installer doesn't really support partitioning... not like Mandrake's
[02:23] <Grat> make a partiton smaller i presume
 abyss:  ubuntu is sortof like debian, but even easier ;) <-- and with security updates :)
[02:23] <kargath64> all I have is a single NTFS partition taking up the whole drive
[02:23] <TheGnome> !dma
[02:23] <kafeine> well
[02:23] <grigora> on a different note, FYI, the Flash plugin for Mozilla (the package) constantly crashes, but a manual install from Macromedia works fine
[02:23] <kargath64> with windows on it
[02:23] <Tom-W> VISTA = Viruses, infections, spyware, trojans,adware ?
[02:23] <tristanmike> TheGnome, he probably thought the opposite by keeping it closed, but that's what you get when you try to hide your stuff from the world, they get insulted and do anything they can to find out what's so secret
[02:23] <kafeine> that's gonna need formatting
[02:23] <benplaut> yup
[02:23] <kemik> kargath64:  just format it all :)
[02:24] <Luna-Tick> LOL
[02:24] <kargath64> ah well
[02:24] <TheGnome> !dvd
[02:24] <ubotu> [dvd]  There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[02:24] <abyss> and the first who has a stable ppc G3 Xorg graphiccard driver that works
[02:24] <kargath64> backups time for me then
[02:24] <Luna-Tick> It does work
[02:24] <Luna-Tick> I did it
[02:24] <kafeine> yup
[02:24] <tristanmike> kafeine, can't he resize the partition??
[02:24] <kafeine> tristanmike, mmm
[02:24] <tristanmike> kafeine, lol
[02:24] <Luna-Tick> Karg - just be very careful
[02:24] <TheGnome> what is the hdparm dma command for dvd?
[02:24] <Luna-Tick> defrag first,
[02:24] <Grat> i dont thing resizing is possible :>
[02:24] <tristanmike> kafeine, ok, Marge...
[02:24] <kafeine> i'm not really familiar with ntfs' chances of resizing
[02:25] <abyss> on debian i had to switch to unstable for xorg use and without xorg my xserver wont work ^^
[02:25] <kafeine> even with win32 software
[02:25] <Luna-Tick> Grat; Kaffeine: it does work
[02:25] <kemik> you can resize a ntfs partiotn with Partition Magic
[02:25] <kemik> not with ubuntu-installer
[02:25] <Luna-Tick> I did it without
[02:25] <ubercompuser> also gparted
[02:25] <kargath64> Luna-Tick: how?
[02:25] <kafeine> ooh
[02:25] <tristanmike> kafeine, the wiki says this... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/I386
[02:25] <kafeine> i wouldnt touch no ntfs under linux, no, sirre
[02:25] <LinuxJones> kemik, I thought Ubuntu installer did ntfs
[02:25] <kafeine> tristanmike, possible
[02:25] <kafeine> ntfs is a chimera, anyway
[02:25] <abyss> exist in ubuntu a proggie like synaptic on debian?
[02:25] <kafeine> it aint no stable standard
[02:26] <kafeine> abyss, it's the same, and it's in it
[02:26] <grigora> kafeine: I cannot find libdvdcss2? what repository is it from? I have the officially supported as well as the community supported software repositories
[02:26] <tristanmike> kafeine, as long as you defrag the piss out of it.....
[02:26] <Luna-Tick> grig: hoary extras
[02:26] <abyss> kafeine,  i think i will switch from debian to ubuntu generelly
[02:26] <kafeine> grigora, should be in hoary-backports
[02:26] <abyss> its really pretty easy
[02:26] <tristanmike> kafeine, of course, if you can convince a re-format, then cudos to you
[02:27] <Luna-Tick> Yeah -hoary backports extras
[02:27] <pcharky> Hello there, can anybody help me get the line-in on my SB Aud2 to work?
[02:27] <abyss> but whats the root pw? the installer never asked for!
[02:27] <kargath64> what's synaptic?
[02:27] <kafeine> abyss, you won't feel a big change, it's basically the same, but les packages, better release cycle, awesome community
[02:27] <kemik> abyss:  there is none
[02:27] <kemik> !root
[02:27] <ubotu> root is, like, totally, disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:27] <TheGnome> what is the hdparm dma command for dvd?
[02:27] <cyphase> is it possible to start a graphical application remotely, and have the window appear on the computer it's running on
[02:27] <cyphase> ?
[02:27] <kafeine> kargath64, gtk frontend to apt-get
[02:27] <kargath64> oh ok :)
[02:27] <vitriol> !dma
[02:28] <kargath64> no terminals for me :)
[02:28] <kafeine> abyss, it should be your user's pass
[02:28] <abyss> synaptic is a Xserver proggie for apt
[02:28] <Tom-W> ncyphase are you asking about nx?
[02:28] <vitriol> (i'd  like to know that too) ;)
[02:28] <Luna-Tick> TheGnome: You can set it in hdparm
[02:28] <kafeine> tristanmike, a clean format will certainly be less dangerous
[02:28] <kafeine> i mean
[02:28] <kemik> cyphase:  possibly if you specifiy a running display on the server...
[02:28] <kafeine> you *know* that with formatting everything's wiped out
[02:28] <kemik> cyphase:  but im really not sure how ;)
[02:28] <Wanderer_> Linux Jones?
[02:28] <kafeine> and with resizing
[02:28] <kafeine> it could happen
[02:28] <cyphase> kemik, yea, me neither ;)
[02:28] <Luna-Tick> TheGnome: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:28] <tristanmike> kafeine, I mean, that's how i did it, and just left room for the FAT and ext systems
[02:28] <kafeine> but they don't really bother telling you that
[02:28] <vitriol> gah where do i get ndiswrapper from?
[02:29] <benplaut> !ndiswrapper
[02:29] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:29] <kemik> cyphase:  you could use VNC i guess... ;)
[02:29] <vitriol> thanks
[02:29] <abyss> exist divx and similar codec packages?
[02:29] <tristanmike> kafeine, it's the best way, I wouldn't dissagree there at all
[02:29] <kemik> !restricted
[02:29] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:29] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, what do you want ?
[02:29] <kemik> abyss:  that link, or use VLC
[02:29] <fissy> abyss, gstreamer-ffmpeg
[02:29] <pschulz01> Greetings.. how do I turn off (remove) a serial port from being used for a mouse?
[02:29] <kargath64> !partition
[02:29] <ubotu> kargath64: Are you on ritalin?
[02:29] <kafeine> abyss, try your movies with totem-xine, vlc, et cetera
[02:29] <kargath64> :(
[02:29] <TheGnome> /dev/hda:
[02:29] <TheGnome>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[02:29] <TheGnome>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[02:29] <TheGnome>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[02:29] <Wanderer_> I posted my problems awhile ago. Did not get a response.
[02:29] <kargath64> the bot doesn't like me
[02:29] <kemik> totem should be banned
[02:29] <kemik> .>
[02:30] <kafeine> kargath64, the bot is stoopid
[02:30] <kafeine> dont worry
[02:30] <fissy> totem is awesome
[02:30] <TheGnome> totem-xine rocks
[02:30] <kafeine> he's just a virgin and he hates us for it
[02:30] <kafeine> all of us
[02:30] <jbull> Wanderer_:  what kind of problems?
[02:30] <Luna-Tick> TheGnome - the cd/dvd drive is /dev/hdc
[02:30] <Luna-Tick> usually
[02:30] <tristanmike> Wanderer_, did you burn your cd yourself?
[02:30] <Elsidox> can someone help me? When I run apt-get update I get errors.
[02:30] <Tom-W> ncyphase is this what your looking for : http://www.nomachine.com/
[02:30] <TheGnome> Luna-Tick, no mine is hda
[02:30] <Luna-Tick> really??
[02:30] <Wanderer_> No. Got it from a friend who ordered them.
[02:30] <TheGnome> Luna-Tick, sure is
[02:30] <Luna-Tick> gee..
[02:30] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, oh sorry man I didn't see, give me 2 mins to have a smoke and I will help if I can ok ?
[02:30] <vitriol> !bluetooth
[02:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, vitriol
[02:31] <vitriol> damn you!
[02:31] <Wanderer_> OK.
[02:31] <kafeine> TheGnome, isnt that some hard drive or something?
[02:31] <tristanmike> jbull, he is having problems after the Install Splash Screen; reboots
[02:31] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, brb :)
[02:31] <jbull> hm...
[02:31] <TheGnome> NO IT IS MY DVD DRIVE
[02:31] <Luna-Tick> Calm
[02:31] <kemik> hdX just denotes where on the cable and which controller you've put the drive(s)
[02:31] <kafeine> khm.
[02:31] <TheGnome> sda is my hardrive
[02:31] <grigora> kafeine: thanks, but I don't know to how add hoary-backports, it's not on the Synaptic's repository list
[02:31] <dimethyl> hey, does anyone know how i can get transcode binaries installed on ubuntu
[02:31] <TheGnome> cuz it isnt IDE
[02:31] <Luna-Tick> Nice
[02:31] <tristanmike> jbull, hit's return, and reboots, my friend Mot is having a very similar problem..
[02:32] <pschulz01> I would like to attach a device to '/dev/ttyS0' which is not a mouse..
[02:32] <grigora> kafeine: apt-cache search libdvdcss2 can't seem to find it either
[02:32] <kemik> hda = primary master, hdb = primary slave, hdc = sec master hdd = sec slave...
[02:32] <TheGnome> yes
[02:32] <TheGnome> hda = my dvd drive
[02:32] <kafeine> grigora, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports?highlight=%28backports%29
[02:32] <pschulz01> .. when I plug ut in my ps/2 mouse get's slow and unresponsive
[02:32] <tristanmike> TheGnome: that seems odd.....
[02:32] <abyss> kafeine, how about wireless solutions on ubuntu like rt2500?
[02:32] <Luna-Tick> But possible
[02:32] <TheGnome> tristanmike, why?
[02:32] <ridiie> anyone have any idea what this means... I got this error when trying to install bootmagic on a fat32 partition. "unable to write bootmagic to MBR, not enough free sectors"
[02:32] <kemik> it's not odd, he's put the DVD on primary master
[02:32] <pschulz01> Searching through /etc, '/dev/ttyS0' is mentioned in a couple of places..
[02:33] <tristanmike> TheGnome, shouldn't the hard-drive be hda?
[02:33] <Tom-W> lol
[02:33] <kemik> and SDA is scsi ?
[02:33] <Luna-Tick> No!
[02:33] <kemik> oh god..
[02:33] <kafeine> and grigora, don't even bother with the main backports, use mirrors instead
[02:33] <kemik> doesnt ppl read ? =)
[02:33] <nudnick> can someone help me out with my ubuntu instalation. i'm getting an error while it checks hardware
[02:33] <Tom-W> sda is scsi yes
[02:33] <abyss> on debian the system freeze if i use the rt2500 driver
[02:33] <Luna-Tick> Tristan - the harddrive is scsi so the first IDE thing that he has is his DVD drive
[02:33] <kafeine> abyss, can't help you with that, cause i have no wireless networking stuff around me
[02:33] <pschulz01> '/etc/inittab', 'sane.d/dc??.conf
[02:33] <kafeine> but try the wiki and the forums
[02:34] <tristanmike> Luna-Tick, sorry, I missed that, MY BAD!
[02:34] <MrPockets> XMMS was being a douche, so i used the cleint killer to kill it,  how do i re initalize it now?
[02:34] <kafeine> and i'm sure there must be someone here who can help you on that one
[02:34] <kemik> Luna-Tick:  but it doesnt even work like that, now does it.. if he changes a cable his dvd will be HDC ;)
[02:34] <kargath64> so just confirming b4 i quit
[02:34] <Luna-Tick> *sigh*
[02:34] <nudnick> :( anyone?
[02:34] <Luna-Tick> that is true
[02:34] <pschulz01> and 'securetty'
[02:34] <kafeine> MrPockets, $ xmms?
[02:34] <Tom-W> change the boot oder in the bios , not to boot the cd before hd ???
[02:34] <TheGnome> kemik, your not getting it
[02:34] <kargath64> what partitioning features does the 5.04 installer have?
[02:34] <jorgp> I thought transcode in multiverse, but its not there
[02:34] <tristanmike> TheGnome, nevermind, I missed the part when you said your drive was SCSI, sorry, my bad
[02:35] <MrPockets> nah, i click the icon and nothing comes up
[02:35] <gmoore> anyone familiar with ftp servers in linux behind a router? i have mine set up and configured and i can connect internally but others cannot, they get error 425 could not build data connection.
[02:35] <pschulz01> nudnick: What hardware are u using?
[02:35] <kemik> TheGnome:  im sure i've got it.. take your secondary IDE controller and connect your DVD. it'll be /dev/hdc
[02:35] <Luna-Tick> Karg: the features are to format the lot or use existing partitions
[02:35] <kafeine> kargath64, you can generally re-partition, delete partitions, create new partitions, and erase the entire hard drive
[02:35] <Luna-Tick> if I remember
[02:35] <nudnick> pschulz01 i'll PM you
[02:35] <Luna-Tick> Oh, okay
[02:35] <pschulz01> gmoore: set to connection to 'passive'..
[02:35] <abyss> E: Konnte Paket gstreamer0.8-mad nicht finden
[02:35] <Luna-Tick> kemik - will changing it to hdc make it easier to set DMA?
[02:36] <kargath64> ok
[02:36] <kemik> Luna-Tick:  no ;)
[02:36] <fissy> gmoore: do you know how to do port forwarding on your router?
[02:36] <kargath64> still feeling nervous
[02:36] <gmoore> pschulz01: he can't connect in pasv either
[02:36] <gmoore> fissy: yes and the ftp port is forwarded
[02:36] <kargath64> but i'll give it a shot nyway :)
[02:36] <kafeine> kargath64, its normal, dont worry
[02:36] <Luna-Tick> then it doesn't help ;)
[02:36] <fissy> gmoore: and port 20?
[02:36] <kafeine> everything's gonna mess up:D
[02:36] <dimethyl> does anyone know how i can get transcode installed on ubuntu??...or if i can use another package to take divx > svcd ??
[02:36] <gmoore> fissy: oh i should forward 20? trying
[02:36] <kafeine> ok folks, im gonna have some sleep
[02:36] <kafeine> good night all
[02:36] <kargath64> nyo
[02:36] <dimethyl> later
[02:36] <tristanmike> kargath64, good luck, I stared at the partitioning page for 2 days before building up the courage
[02:36] <kemik> Luna-Tick:  just thought it should be explained that HDA isnt "the first drive" or something.. it sort or correleates to hardware placing..
[02:36] <TheGnome> well im typing hdparm -d1 /dev/hda.........is that the right command
[02:37] <gmoore> trying now...
[02:37] <fissy> gmoore: iirc the connection is done on port 21 and data istransferred on port 20... odd, perhaps i'm wrong
[02:37] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, ok back
[02:37] <jorgp> anyone know the apt-get line for transcode for breezy?
[02:37] <grigora> kafeine: even after adding [deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted]  to my /etc/apt/sources.conf I still cannot find libdvdcss2. any ideas?
[02:37] <Luna-Tick> TheGnome - Not sure sorry, I went straight to hdparm, but I believe that there is a wiki page...
[02:37] <LinuxJones> fissy, your right
[02:37] <abyss> kafeine, E: Konnte Paket gstreamer0.8-mad nicht finden <- you really sure that package was named so?
[02:37] <tristanmike> TheGnome: that'll turn DMA on if it's off
[02:37] <dimethyl> jorgp, you trying to help me, or u have the same problem?
[02:38] <kafeine> grigora, did you reload your packages before that?
[02:38] <grigora> kafeine: apt-get update?
[02:38] <Luna-Tick> Anyway chaps, I must be off - good luck all
[02:38] <tristanmike> TheGnome: or rather, tell you if it's on or off
[02:38] <grigora> kafeine: yes
[02:38] <kafeine> grigora, khm
[02:38] <tristanmike> Luna-Tick, take care
[02:38] <kafeine> abyss, yup
[02:38] <Luna-Tick> ciao
[02:38] <kemik> TheGnome:  edit your /etc/hdparm.conf and add this:
[02:38] <grigora> kafeine: what's khm?
[02:38] <fissy> LinuxJones: :) I don't quite understand why though.. other systems manage with just the one port
[02:38] <kemik> TheGnome:  wait for pastebin ;)
[02:38] <abyss> kafeine, okay then it seems to be not in my apt sources
[02:38] <jorgp> dimethyl: dont know, I am not sure the repos that transcode is in
[02:38] <LinuxJones> fissy, it's an old protocol
[02:38] <kafeine> it's like hm but in a more... kafeine way
[02:39] <gmoore> okay my ftp server is running on port 4096 and i have both that and port 20 forwarded to the machine running the server. my friend still can't connect, error 425 unable to build data connection using port, and using pasv he doesn't get a LIST.
[02:39] <kemik> TheGnome:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1411
[02:39] <TheGnome> kemik, no no no
[02:39] <kafeine> grigora, use some of those mirrors http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[02:39] <kemik> TheGnome:  at least, thats what i've done to enable DMA on my drive
[02:39] <kafeine> pf
[02:39] <Grat> bye guys
[02:39] <Grat> enjoy
[02:39] <kafeine> and really, im going to bed, so, good luck to you all
[02:40] <kemik> gnite kafeine
[02:40] <kafeine> and ill see you tomorrow
[02:40] <tristanmike> good nite kafeine
[02:40] <kemik> TheGnome:  tried that ?
[02:40] <fissy> gmoore: how come you've got it running on port 4096? have you forwarded both ports 20 & 21 to port 4096 because i don't imagine that would work
[02:40] <kafeine> night yall
[02:40] <abyss> kafeine, where i can download it then if my apt say that it not exist
[02:40] <gmoore> fissy: because the server i ran previously on my windows machine was on that port
[02:40] <LinuxJones> gmoore, why not rn your server on the standard port ?
[02:40] <gmoore> okay i'll try it
[02:40] <kafeine> abyss, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%29
[02:41] <kemik> gmoore:  maybe you shouldnt run the dataport on the same port as control?
[02:41] <TheGnome> kemik, i dont want dma on for good
[02:41] <kafeine> and good luck, and good night, and whatnot
[02:41] <kemik> TheGnome:  oh.. why not ??
[02:41] <jorgp> dimethyl: are you having same issue?
[02:41] <gmoore> okay when i run it on port 21, i can't even establish a connection locally. the machine doesn't even respond
[02:41] <benplaut> you guys know where i can find some 404 page ideas?
[02:41] <tristanmike> abyss, I just check the "gstreamer0.8-mad" package is in synaptic
[02:42] <abyss> tristanmike, my apt find nothing
[02:42] <fissy> :|
[02:42] <kemik> abyss:  you've added hoary-extras ?
[02:42] <jtan325> hmm
[02:42] <jtan325> anyone notice
[02:42] <kemik> abyss:  and done "apt-update" ?
[02:42] <fissy> does the server have its own firewall gmoore?
[02:42] <abyss> kemik, how? its a fresh ubuntu install (ppc)
[02:42] <tristanmike> abyss, have you edited your sources.list yet??
[02:42] <LinuxJones> gmoore, you realize that Ubuntu servers only listen on localhost by default. (for secutiry reasons)  Did you do any modifications to allow external networks to connect to your ftp server ?
[02:42] <ilovetoastmaker> someone good at ubuntu im me: brianthebumpy
[02:42] <kemik> !repositories
[02:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:42] <TheGnome> hda: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[02:42] <abyss> tristanmike, no
[02:42] <dimethyl> jorgp, yea, i cant get transcode installed
[02:42] <gmoore> LinuxJones: i did NOT know that and i have not set it up to allow external connections
[02:42] <jtan325> "please don't use breezy yet" is no longer in the topic
[02:42] <jtan325> ...
[02:42] <ilovetoastmaker> someone good at ubunu im me: brianthelumpy
[02:42] <kemik> !hoary-extras
[02:42] <ubotu> hoary-extras is, like, totally, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[02:43] <LinuxJones> gmoore, that's your problem right there
[02:43] <BTJustice> I went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[02:43] <fissy> presumably that's not the problem if it was allowing some sort of connection before on the weird port
[02:43] <kemik> abyss:  follow those links
[02:43] <gmoore> LinuxJones :)     what next?
[02:43] <jorgp> dimethyl: what repos are you getting it from?
[02:43] <jtan325> is breezy "usable" now?
[02:43] <jbull> ilovetoastmaker:  what do you need help with?
[02:43] <Velox> ilovetoastmaker: Please don't spam, it makes us less willing to help :P
[02:43] <fissy> does the pope defecate in forests
[02:43] <tristanmike> abyss, i private messaged you
[02:43] <dimethyl> jorgp, im not sure, i dont even know a lot about ubuntu
[02:43] <LinuxJones> gmoore, what ftp server are you running ?
[02:43] <dimethyl> which is pissing me off the way the do things
[02:43] <gmoore> proftpd
[02:43] <LinuxJones> gmoore, there may be a howto on the wiki
[02:43] <dimethyl> i just wanna burn a damn svcd
[02:43] <jbull> jtan325:  usable as it's ever been...although the cairo recompiles are causing some problems
[02:44] <LinuxJones> gmoore, vsftp is the prefered one for alot of distro these days
[02:44] <jtan325> jbull, well like i said, "please don't use breezy yet" is longer in the topic
[02:44] <jtan325> was that intentional?
[02:44] <gmoore> LinuxJones: i spent forever getting this configured, i'd really rather not change now :(
[02:44] <LinuxJones> gmoore, try searching the wiki and see if it comes up with any info
[02:44] <gmoore> nothing on the wiki
[02:44] <dimethyl> jorgp, im gonna keep trying for like a half hour.....pm me if you figure it out and ill do the same
[02:44] <jbull> jtan325:  ah, i didn't notice--no idea as to whether it was intentional or not
[02:45] <TheGnome> can someone out there help me with enabling dma?
[02:45] <jorgp> dimethyl: ok
[02:45] <kemik> TheGnome:  why didnt you want it permanently ?
[02:45] <dimethyl> like, am i supposed to add servers to the sources.list?
[02:45] <jack|ass> did hoary become stable?
[02:46] <TheGnome> kemik, ok i will try it......what file do i put that in?
[02:46] <LinuxJones> gmoore, although not recommended here is ubuntuguide.org's proftp info >> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installftpserver    It should get you up and running
[02:46] <kemik> TheGnome:  /etc/hdparm.conf
[02:46] <dimethyl> can anyone tell me why i need the ubuntu install cdrom sometimes when i install packages/
[02:46] <jtan325> jbull, what are these cairo problems?
[02:47] <jtan325> i'm seriously condsidering upgrading repos to breezy
[02:47] <gmoore> LinuxJones: only has stuff that i've already done :
[02:47] <gmoore> :(
[02:47] <jtan325> but i gotta make sure the problems ain't so bad
[02:47] <TheGnome> kemik, everything is commented out?
[02:47] <dimethyl> is it supposed to ask for the cd?
[02:47] <LinuxJones> gmoore, did you restart the proftpd server after making the changes ?
[02:48] <gmoore> yes
[02:48] <jbull> jtan325:  for me, the only problem im having is that evince crashes on startup
[02:48] <gmoore> on port 21 it won't even reply locally
[02:48] <kemik> TheGnome:  well you add those lines i gave you at the end
[02:48] <kemik> TheGnome:  and yes, my hdparm.conf is full of stuff that's commented-out
[02:48] <jtan325> hmmmm
[02:48] <NatureTruth> help!  I need the kernel source for kernel 2.10, how do I install it?
[02:48] <gmoore> started proftpd on port 21 and typed 'ftp localhost 21' gives me 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[02:48] <jtan325> !topic
[02:48] <Wanderer_> Ok. I'm back, Linux Jones. Did you see my problem post back a 1000 lines or so?
[02:49] <TheGnome> kemik, do i have to reboot?
[02:49] <BTJustice> I went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[02:49] <dimethyl> can someone please message me their sources.list , mine is fsck'd up
[02:50] <NatureTruth> help!  I need to compile a new version of Alsa from source and it needs the kernel source, how do I install it?  It's not in synaptic
[02:50] <gmoore> linux would you mind if i pmed you with the server info and you could try connecting? it's possible my friend just has a crappy client or router himself and the problem isn't on my end.
[02:50] <hardw1re> apt-cache search alsa
[02:50] <kemik> TheGnome:  i'm afraid so, i dont know anyother way
[02:50] <hardw1re> in root console
[02:50] <TheGnome> kemik
[02:51] <TheGnome> kemik, ok brb
[02:51] <kemik> TheGnome:  and it'll probably display an error, but DMA will be enabled...
[02:51] <Wanderer_> Ohhhhh...Liiiiinnniiix! Lllliiinniiix Joooohnnns!
[02:51] <jtan325> Seveas, or bob2, what's the status of breezy if you guys are there?
[02:52] <LinuxJones> gmoore, I haven't run an ftp server in like 7 years so i wouldn't be much help
[02:53] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, 1 more time :)
[02:53] <gmoore> LinuxJones: just want to see if you can connect though and what error you get if any so i can tell if its me or him
[02:53] <Wanderer_> My Problem?
[02:53] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, yes
[02:53] <dimethyl> bt, i keep hitting accept but its not working
[02:53] <LinuxJones> gmoore, It's probably you
[02:53] <LinuxJones> gmoore, can you connect to it yourself ?
[02:54] <gmoore> both localhost (on the ubuntu machine) and network (winxp machine) connect fine
[02:54] <BTJustice> PM me
[02:54] <LinuxJones> gmoore, ok I will try
[02:54] <gmoore> also connecting to my external ip address through the xp machine works as well
[02:54] <LinuxJones> gmoore, are you behind a firewall ?
[02:54] <gmoore> yes and the ports are forwarded
[02:55] <TheGnome> kemik, didnt work
[02:55] <kemik> TheGnome:  what does "hdparm -d /dev/hda" say ?
[02:55] <LinuxJones> gmoore, 1 sec
[02:55] <TheGnome> /dev/hda:
[02:55] <TheGnome>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[02:56] <kemik> TheGnome:  do you have an AMD ?
[02:56] <kemik> TheGnome:  there's alot of stuff about your problem in http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30949.html
[02:56] <LinuxJones> gmoore, I logged in
[02:57] <jedix> anyone use transgaming?
[02:57] <kemik> TheGnome:  and this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=93238#post93238
[02:57] <LinuxJones> gmoore, it's veryyyyy slow
[02:58] <gmoore> did it work at all?
[02:58] <dimethyl> does anyone know what package libz is in?
[02:59] <LinuxJones> gmoore, why do you have a .nl ftp site if you have a .ca ip address ?
[02:59] <gmoore> .nu, free dns forwarding
[02:59] <cyphase> how could i find all the symbolic links on my hard drive?
[02:59] <cyphase> would i have to create a custom program?
[03:00] <dabar> I just wanted to point out a cindy crawford smiley I just came up with...altho, I am sure it was done before....     :-./   :-.)
[03:00] <zerboxx> How do I install a .deb file?
[03:00] <gmoore> dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:00] <kemik> !dpkg
[03:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, dpkg is the Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[03:00] <dabar> zerboxx: cant you install from repositories?
[03:01] <zerboxx> dabar: I should :)
[03:01] <zerboxx> dabar: I'm looking for a python file which should be with bitorrent, but it's not
[03:01] <dabar> noone thinks the cindy crawford smileys are funny, or are those common practice?
[03:01] <cute_bettong> is there a why to check the integrety  of the ubuntu installed os?
[03:01] <dabar> zerboxx: used synaptics search?
[03:01] <zerboxx> dabar: yup..pretty sure anyways
[03:01] <LinuxJones> gmoore, have you checked your directory/fiel permissions on your ftp folder ?
[03:02] <Wanderer_> I get to the screen where you press ENTER to run the default setup. I do so, and the installer displays stuff informing me that it's decompressing this and that. It then displays a message having something to do with the kernel (I don't know for sure the specific contense of the message due to the fact it dissappears approx. 1.5 seconds after it is displayed). The computer then reboots,...
[03:02] <Wanderer_> ...rereads the cd, and then plops me down in front of the beginning screen again! It repeats this process ad infintium, until I get too disgusted and eject it from the drive, at which time I reboot and load up Windows.
[03:02] <gmoore> yes because i can connect to both the internal network address from the router and the same address i gave you, and both work
[03:02] <TheGnome> kemik, found out
[03:02] <dabar> I cant believe noone likes the Cindy Crwaford smileys...
[03:02] <zerboxx> dabar: http://www.torrentflux.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10 I'm on step 4 :)
[03:02] <kemik> TheGnome:  good =)
[03:02] <TheGnome> kemik, was a problem in my etc/modules
[03:02] <TheGnome> kemik, thanks for the links
[03:03] <cute_bettong> so anyone know the answer to my question?
[03:03] <kemik> TheGnome:  np.. now it's time to sleep
[03:03] <Wanderer_> Linux?
[03:03] <Wanderer_> Linux Jones?
[03:04] <sambagirl> cube_bettong, if it boots up and you can login i would say it works :)
[03:04] <Wanderer_> Mr. Jones?
[03:05] <BTJustice> I went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[03:05] <tristanmike> Wanderer_, just wait a sec, he might be reading something
[03:05] <letschatt> hi guys. can someone personal message me - i am a ubuntu newbie and need some help in compiling a driver
[03:05] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, have you tried to look at your cdrom to see if it's got a scratch on it or maybe the cd is burned incorrectly (there were errors)
[03:05] <darkheart> letschatt Driver for what?
[03:05] <letschatt> i keep getting stdlib.h no such file or directory
[03:05] <letschatt> i have cpp and gcc
[03:05] <letschatt> for my wireless network card
[03:06] <letschatt> a friend of mine got it working on kubuntu
[03:06] <kemik> letschatt is lucky this isnt #debian.. irc'ing as root is forbidden there.. :)
[03:06] <Wanderer_> It was not burned got it from a friend, who got it through the mail from Canonical.
[03:06] <ian> how do i restart my gnome GUI?
[03:06] <kemik> letschatt:  get "build-essential"
[03:06] <ian> how do i restart my gnome GUI? or refresh it?
[03:06] <darkheart> Yeah root is bad =P
[03:06] <letschatt> yeah i know the rules guys
[03:06] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, were you ever messing about with your systems bios ?
[03:06] <letschatt> not a linux newbie but i got soo sick and tired of sudo honestly speaking
[03:07] <letschatt> is that a package build-essential?
[03:07] <Wanderer_> Nope.
[03:07] <darkheart> ian If you hit ctrl+alt+backspace it will shut down your X server, but beware, it will close everything.
[03:07] <kemik> letschatt:  apt-get that, yes
[03:07] <LinuxJones> Wanderer_, have you ever looked around in there /
[03:07] <kemik> i've learned to live with sudo actually
[03:07] <kemik> :)
[03:07] <ian> darkheart: how ill i go back in GUI?
[03:07] <darkheart> letschatt Why do you have to IRC with root permissions?
[03:07] <cute_bettong> what is a bogofilter file?
[03:08] <darkheart> ian If you are running GDM it will automatically start back up. If not, just type 'startx' at the prompt.
[03:08] <letschatt> i don't have to but i see right now i was doing a sh*tload of modprobing and makes and stuff
[03:08] <alec> ian: to restart X, hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:08] <Wanderer_> Yeah, but I was afraid to touch anything.
[03:08] <letschatt> and i got sick and tired of not having root to do all this
[03:08] <gmoore> LinuxJones i figured out the problem, the machine is sending out its INTERNAL ip address instead of the external one to the client for forming a port command.
[03:08] <darkheart> letschatt i see.
[03:08] <letschatt> anyway that's not what i am here to debate
[03:08] <ian> ok...thanks..
[03:08] <LinuxJones> gmoore, ohh so it's working now ?
[03:08] <OwnageLinux> Guys do you know how to use the direct connect in gaim or if there is a direct connect in gaim
[03:08] <letschatt> starting off 1. can someone give me ONE friggin source that actually works? i can't find any package at all
[03:09] <letschatt> i can't find build-essentials no candidate
[03:09] <gmoore> LinuxJones: no not yet but i know that's the problem now. i need to convince my ubuntu machine to send titaniumone.mine.nu or my external ip instead of 192.168.0.12
[03:09] <OwnageLinux> Guys do you know how to use the direct connect in gaim or if there is a direct connect in gaim
[03:09] <apokryphos> letschatt: it's build-essential
[03:09] <darkheart> OwnageLinux Just right click on a contact's name and choose "Direct IM"
[03:09] <tristanmike> Wanderer_ are you set to boot from cd?
[03:09] <apokryphos> !info build-essential
[03:09] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[03:09] <LinuxJones> gmoore, that's a good start :0
[03:09] <apokryphos> letschatt: and it's in main
[03:09] <OwnageLinux> darkheart there is no direct im option
[03:09] <gmoore> LinuxJones: do you think editing /etc/hosts would do?
[03:10] <OwnageLinux> wait nvm dark.... thnx
[03:10] <letschatt> sorry that's what i used build-essential
[03:10] <OwnageLinux> i found it
[03:10] <Wanderer_> I didn't have to "set" it to anything. It just automatically read the cd on boot up and loaded the begining.
[03:10] <apokryphos> letschatt: and what's the error?
[03:10] <kemik> letschatt:  then your sources.list is fubar
[03:10] <hardw1re> whats the reconfigure command again so then i can reconfigure nvidia when i change my kernel?
[03:10] <LinuxJones> gmoore, honestly I have had too many beer :)
[03:10] <kemik> !sources.list
[03:10] <gmoore> :)
[03:10] <ubotu> kemik: No idea
[03:10] <kemik> !sources
[03:10] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:10] <tristanmike> Wanderer_ that could be your problem, in the BIOS, it needs to be set to boot from CD
[03:10] <hardw1re> !reconfigure
[03:10] <ubotu> hardw1re: Syntax error in line 1
[03:10] <letschatt> E: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[03:11] <hardw1re> :o
[03:11] <apokryphos> letschatt: are you on hoary?
[03:11] <tristanmike> LinuxJones, is that possible?
[03:11] <darkheart> !tell letschatt about repositories
[03:11] <benplaut> The page you thought Ben had in store,
[03:11] <benplaut> It never was, or is no more-
[03:11] <benplaut> Quoth the server, 404!
[03:11] <LinuxJones> gmoore, so your behind a router ?
[03:11] <Wanderer_> OK...Let me try that right quick...
[03:11] <benplaut> that's what my site was needing :P
[03:11] <apokryphos> letschatt: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:11] <darkheart> letschatt Try installing the repos from what ubotu sent you.
[03:11] <letschatt> apork it's big i do'nt wanna spam
[03:11] <BTJustice> I went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[03:11] <apokryphos> letschatt: hence I said use pastebin :)
[03:12] <apokryphos> !paste
[03:12] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:12] <regeya> meh.
[03:12] <LinuxJones> tristanmike, yeah maybe
[03:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is it really bad to get errors in the final stages of setup just before ubuntu boots for the first time?
[03:12] <glick> hey i have a single server with 1gig ram and an 800mhz cpu
[03:12] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when it's downloading things
[03:12] <jtan325> more than likely, yes
[03:13] <glick> is it ok to put more then one services per machine/
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[03:13] <glick> ?
[03:13] <glick> generally?
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> something about an early file termination
[03:13] <darkheart> glick More than one service?
[03:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> during the download procces just before ubuntu boots for the first time
[03:13] <glick> darkheart, yeah running more than one server
[03:13] <fissy> are you running the pentagon or your personal mail server?
[03:14] <ubercompuser> good html editor?
[03:14] <darkheart> glick What kind of server?
[03:14] <glick> like cvs, web, ssh, etc
[03:14] <letschatt> i've never used x-chat pokry i've been using linux on and off for 3 years this is my first time full time i also run win 2000
[03:14] <LinuxJones> tristanmike, I think it's more like a whacky setting in the bios, I did an install for my nephew and a bios reset was all that was needed to get a usb mouse working (I dunno what he did but turned off support I guess )
[03:14] <glick> all in one
[03:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a way to make ubuntu check it's self?
[03:14] <darkheart> glick No, that's what Linux is made for =) Running services haha.
[03:14] <apokryphos> ubercompuser: best IMO is Quanta+
[03:14] <benplaut> ubercompuser, try bluefish
[03:14] <glick> darkheart, yeah but i mean is it generally to run multiple things on one server
[03:14] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you mena to make sure integrity of it's files and whatnot ?
[03:14] <ubercompuser> all i see is just quanta not quanta+
[03:14] <glick> is it a good idea to do so?
[03:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[03:15] <tristanmike> LinuxJones, my friend is haveing virtually the same problem but his screen goes to prompt after the Install Splash Screen, no reboot...I can't figure it out
[03:15] <benplaut> ubercompuser, or just use a regular text editor...
[03:15] <darkheart> glick Yes, it is no problem to run multiple services.
[03:15] <ubercompuser> i would liket something that is dedicate html editor
[03:15] <ubercompuser> kinda like dreamweavor
[03:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LinuxJones:  yes
[03:15] <darkheart> glick Of course, you have to take into account the box you are using and how much service you are providing.
[03:16] <jtan325> ChurcH_of_FoamY, bluefish
[03:16] <nudnick> anyone looking to help a newb out who is having some hardware compatibility issues with his system?
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> bluefish?
[03:16] <Edddie> Hey guys, I just got a new HDD and I was wondering what I have to add to /etc/fstab to mount it?
[03:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's a customers computer i'm putting ubuntu on
[03:16] <glick> darkheart, wouldnt be much, maybe a couple of people 10 max
[03:16] <spermie> how do i edit apt?
[03:16] <darkheart> glick No problem at all.
[03:17] <surfdue_> is there a free graphics program
[03:17] <surfdue_> like photoshop
[03:17] <surfdue_> for linux
[03:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it's taht box that has errors
[03:17] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY, after a fresh install you can install a file integrity checker (aide) then it will go over your system and record md5 checksum's of all your important file that you can check later (via cron job, [mailing your the results] ) to verify your system hasn't been rooted or modified without your permission.
[03:17] <darkheart> glick What are the specs on the box?
[03:17] <ubercompuser> gimp
[03:17] <ubercompuser> surfdue_, gimp
[03:17] <zerboxx> I'm trying to install something which requires "btphptorrent.py" but I can't find it on my system, even though I have bittorrent, whats wrong???
[03:17] <surfdue_> how do i make it one window
[03:17] <surfdue_> :P
[03:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> LinuxJones:  ok you have my attention how to do this ^_^
[03:17] <glick> darkheart, 1 gig of ram 850mhz cpu 150gig harddrive space across two disks,
[03:17] <ubercompuser> u cant
[03:17] <LinuxJones> tristanmike, his video driver is not set correctly
[03:18] <ubercompuser> it is designed to only work in mutiple windows. i personally like that
[03:18] <BTJustice> I went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[03:18] <darkheart> glick No problem at all. Overkill in fact =P
[03:18] <Edddie> Hey guys, I just got a new HDD and I was wondering what I have to add to /etc/fstab to mount it?
[03:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh >.< well needless to say the box is sitting next to me on my work table
[03:18] <glick> cause i have so many damn computeres i dont know what to do with, i am selling a couple
[03:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i just installed ubuntu and it does have errors
[03:18] <glick> cause im moving out of this shithole in 9 months and dont want to lug around 6 computers
[03:18] <darkheart> glick Not really overkill, but that would be perfect for everything to run smooth.
[03:18] <nudnick> anyone looking to help a newb out who is having some hardware compatibility issues with his system?
[03:19] <darkheart> nudnick What's the issue?
[03:19] <glick> thanks darkheart
[03:19] <darkheart> glick Np.
[03:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and for my computer what type of card should i get for a wireless router? 801.11B?
[03:20] <nudnick> darkheart. i'm not 100% sure
[03:20] <darkheart> ChurcH_of_FoamY What kind of wireless connection does your router provide? =)
[03:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i want something that won't give me problems
[03:20] <nudnick> thats why i need help :o
[03:20] <darkheart> nudnick Okay, what are you trying to do, and what is happening instead?
[03:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's a belkin wireless router with 801.11B
[03:20] <LinuxJones> ChurcH_of_FoamY, there are good tutorials on aide from google...there is nothing to it really. Update the database after a fresh install , it will spit out a database of your system. Then periodically run a comparison (via cron job) and it will mail the admin a summary of the differnences (if any). Best to search google or check the aide howto.
[03:20] <glick> i think you probably want a G wireless card
[03:20] <glick> although i have a B
[03:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok thanc
[03:21] <glick> just dont have the money or desire to buy a new wireless card
[03:21] <jtan325> B usually serves the purpose
[03:21] <BTJustice> D-Link DWL-G520 is good wireless card
[03:21] <glick> get senao
[03:21] <darkheart> ChurcH_of_FoamY Make sure you check your router too...See what type it uses.
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> does it work out of the box?
[03:21] <nudnick> darkheart, will you be around tomorrow? turns out its later than i thought and i need to g
[03:21] <nudnick> o
[03:21] <glick> i have an engenious card
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so the card is dependant on the router type?
[03:21] <LinuxJones> tristanmike, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select vesa as the video driver (accept defaults on everyting else) Then issue the command sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> glick what kinda card you have?
[03:22] <darkheart> nudnick I may or may not (wife gets testy for some reason when I'm on the computer during the weekend =P), but I'm sure someone can help you tomorrow anyway =)
[03:22] <BTJustice> Mine did, but I had to do this... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58168
[03:22] <Wanderer_> TristanMike, It didn't work.
[03:22] <glick> ChurcH_of_FoamY, senao/engenious
[03:22] <glick> ChurcH_of_FoamY, netgate.net
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok and thats a good card? that works outta the box?
[03:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with ubuntu
[03:22] <glick> ChurcH_of_FoamY, sorry netgate.com
[03:23] <Wanderer_> TristanMike?
[03:23] <tristanmike> Wanderer_, ummm, same thing/
[03:23] <ubercompuser> WOOOOT! quanta is better than when i first played around with it. any idot can figure out how to use it with ease
[03:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and what should i look for on the router to help me determine what type of card to get?
[03:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> besides brand
[03:23] <Wanderer_> Google it?
[03:23] <tristanmike> LinuxJones, is that at the prompt?
[03:24] <ubercompuser> ChurcH_of_FoamY, have you thought about using something like smoothwall,ipcop or redwall???
[03:24] <dimethyl> hey, i am trying to install a special package, and i get this output Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed, how can i get version 1.1.0 ???
[03:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't even know what those are >.<
[03:24] <tristanmike> Wanderer_, did the samething happen?
[03:24] <Wanderer_> Yes.
[03:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm still learning linux
[03:24] <darkheart> Anyone ever have an issue w/ flash and firefox where some flash pages are half greyed out?
[03:25] <dimethyl> anyone know how i can switch to the more experimental packages in my sources.list?
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i love it though it's a 100% better than winsux haxp
[03:25] <tristanmike> Wanderer_, and you removed the hard drive completly from start up?
[03:25] <darkheart> dimethyl I suppose you could add the Breezy repos to your sources.list
[03:25] <ubercompuser> ChurcH_of_FoamY,  those are firewalls that can be installed on a computer. if you have a spare OLD computer laying around, install it in that and it will be better than any consumer grade firewall!!!
[03:25] <Wanderer_> No, I just made it the first thing to boot from.
[03:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> sweet
[03:26] <dimethyl> thanks darkheart
[03:26] <darkheart> If I was going to create a firewall out of an old computer, I think I would run pf on OpenBSD.
[03:26] <tristanmike> LinuxJones, that command, reconfigure x-server, is that at the promt he gets?
[03:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i might have a box for that but i need the router becuase of the computers on my network
[03:26] <ubercompuser> and u cant know nothing about linux and use it easily
[03:26] <beekay> can anyone help me with my video card's 3d accel?
[03:26] <dfeed> hi all, my system seems to have become confused and is refusing to eject the cd I was playing. Any ideas how I can sort this out without rebooting?
[03:26] <beekay> even giving a link would help
[03:26] <darkheart> dimethyl Np, but it may not be that simple..You might want to google that..Could break things if you're not careful.
[03:26] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i not only run customers boxes when i build them i also run my own as well
[03:26] <ubercompuser> the computer that has in intalled would take place of a router
[03:26] <jbull> dfeed:  sudo eject /dev/yourcddrive not working?
[03:26] <alec> dfeed: when you say eject, do you mean with the gnome menu or with the physical eject button?
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how does that work multiple nicks?
[03:27] <ubercompuser> all you need is a CHEAP $20 and less switch
[03:27] <ubercompuser> what?
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how does the box act as a router does it have multiple ethernet cards or something?
[03:27] <beekay> can someone help me get my video card's 3d acceleration working?
[03:27] <ubercompuser> no
[03:27] <beekay> :D
[03:27] <dfeed> jbull: thanks, I hadn't realised I needed to run that as root
[03:27] <darkheart> alec Wouldn't it be the same issue either way?
[03:27] <Edddie> Hey guys, I just got a new HDD and I was wondering what I have to add to /etc/fstab to mount it?
[03:27] <ubercompuser> all u need it two
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh wow
[03:27] <darkheart> beekay What kind of card?
[03:27] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats cool
[03:28] <ubercompuser> one goes to the switch and one to the modem
[03:28] <Wanderer_> TristanMike?
[03:28] <LinuxJones> tristanmike, yes
[03:28] <beekay> ati 9600
[03:28] <beekay> mobile
[03:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and this can run on my cablemodem as well?
[03:28] <darkheart> Edddie You gotta format it first.
[03:28] <alec> darkheart: no, because if the filesystem is mounted it probably won't let him eject with the physical button
[03:28] <ubercompuser> it should
[03:28] <darkheart> !tell beekay about ati
[03:28] <ubercompuser> as long as it has ethernet
[03:28] <tristanmike> Wanderer_, you removed the hard drive completely from the startup options?
[03:28] <darkheart> beekay Read the guide that ubotu sent you
[03:28] <ubuntuuser> hi is anyone familiar with installing apache on ubuntu?
[03:28] <ubercompuser> does it?
[03:28] <beekay> thanks
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats awsome although i just bought this router brand new in the box for 10.00 and 5.00 s&h
[03:29] <darkheart> alec I suppose you're right if he manually mounted it himself.
[03:29] <Wanderer_> TristanMike: No, I just made cd drive the first thing to boot from.
[03:29] <ubercompuser> ok.... what type
[03:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and the guy on ebay has like 4 of them left
[03:29] <Edddie> I did darkheart but I need to add it to /etc/fstab
[03:29] <ubercompuser> ( i have a backup router if ipcop goes down)
[03:29] <ubercompuser> link?
[03:30] <BTJustice> I went to this webpage and followed the directions in the first post to get my SB Live! 7.1 24 to work, but the sound is real choppy and scratchy.  Do I need to change a setting or something?  I use Kubuntu.  The webpage is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307
[03:30] <darkheart> Edddie What fs did you format it on?
[03:30] <darkheart> Edddie as*
[03:30] <Wanderer_> TristanMike?
[03:30] <tristanmike> Wanderer_, take it out all together, and if it works, when you reboot, go back into the BIOS and put it back to the original configuration
[03:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can do better than that i can give you his email addy cause he told me if i wanted more he'd sell them off of ebay ^_^
[03:30] <Wanderer_> OK. I'll give it a try.
[03:31] <tristanmike> I gotta step out for a minute
[03:31] <dfeed> alec, darkheart: essentially, what happened was that I had one cd playing, which got mounted at some point. changed it to another with no problems, then when I tried to eject that one (in gnome and through the eject command) it wouldn't let me. running eject through sudo worked though.
[03:31] <ubercompuser> i dont want one, i just want to see what u bought
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:31&Item=5800139340
[03:31] <darkheart> dfeed You don't mount audio CDs, btw.
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o stupid link is way big >.<
[03:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ithink it's a nice router (crosses fingers)
[03:32] <dfeed> darkheart: I didn't mean to. Misclicked on the open command in gnome, which seemed to mount it.
[03:32] <ubercompuser> NONONONO ChurcH_of_FoamY  throw it OUT the window NOW
[03:32] <darkheart> dfeed I see...Well, just for future reference anyway =) It won't play if you mount it.
[03:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o why?
[03:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is it no good?
[03:32] <ubercompuser> i had to rma one and it was broken badily and the replacement had the same problem
[03:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[03:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh shit
[03:33] <Edddie> darkheart: I just want it to work, I think it's fat32 right now, I'll change it later but can I keep it dynamic?
[03:33] <ubercompuser> i could write a book about my expirence with it
[03:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't think the guy has a refund policy >.<
[03:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i thought belkin was a good brand?
[03:33] <darkheart> Edddie Dynamic? Not sure what you mean. Do you know which device it is? (/dev/something)
[03:34] <hardw1re> @reconfigure
[03:34] <hardw1re> !reconfigure
[03:34] <ubotu> I don't know, hardw1re
[03:34] <hardw1re> hmm
[03:34] <hardw1re> whats the pkg reconfigure command?
[03:34] <Edddie> yes it's /dev/hdb
[03:34] <hardw1re> !pkg
[03:34] <ubotu> hardw1re: I don't know
[03:34] <darkheart> hardw1re dpkg-reconfigure
[03:34] <kemik> NFS uses UDP by default?
[03:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so that routers pritty much crap? dam it the only thing i could afford >.<
[03:34] <hardw1re> so if i change kernel i need to do dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel ?
[03:35] <hardw1re> lol
[03:35] <hardw1re> belkin?!
[03:35] <hardw1re> you bought a belkin product...
[03:35] <darkheart> hardw1re Err..that I'm not sure of. But sounds close to the mark. gonna have to reconfigure something =)
[03:35] <hardw1re> yeah
[03:35] <gmoore> anyone familiar with proftpd+a router? i'm still trying to get it to work. i have the server set to allowforeignaddresses, masqueradeaddress to my ip, and bind to my ip. all needed ports are forwarded, but people who try to connect still get error 425 could not build data connection. what the hell :(
[03:35] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea cause i can't afford to get a better one and i diden't know >.<
[03:35] <dubnium> i have a few shitty belkin peripreals
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> right now i have a d-link di-604 router
[03:36] <ubercompuser> it has locked up many of times, it has make computers dissapear on the network,  wont give me a ip address some times, it would have WEAK  attennas, signal would fluxiuate from high to drop, running as a AP is useless , it is hard to change back to factory settings and most of the times is would not allow for me to login like it would say there was a duplicate admin or wrong password. i would sometimes set the password as 1 and i
[03:36] <ubercompuser> would log back on and it would forget that password.
[03:36] <svizzero> anyone knows how to solve the following eclipse/sun jdk error:
[03:36] <svizzero> Activation.main: warning: sun.rmi.activation.execPolicy system
[03:36] <svizzero> property unspecified and no ExecPermissions/ExecOptionPermissions
[03:36] <svizzero> granted; subsequent activation attempts may fail due to unsuccessful
[03:36] <svizzero> ExecPermission/ExecOptionPermission permission checks. For
[03:36] <darkheart> gmoore Honestly, you'd be better asking that in #proftpd
[03:36] <svizzero> documentation on how to configure rmid security, refer to: ?
[03:36] <gmoore> darkheart: noone is there :)
[03:36] <ubercompuser> sry bouth the long post
[03:36] <darkheart> svizzero Don't paste in the channel
[03:36] <darkheart> gmoore Oh =)
[03:36] <hardw1re> we're using a BT Voyager 240 Router/Modem
[03:36] <svizzero> sry
[03:37] <biscuit_> I finally got my internal audio card to work!
[03:37] <darkheart> svizzero Np, next time use #flood or pastebin
[03:37] <svizzero> ok
[03:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> man i can't beleve this whats so bad about belkin i got it becuase the advertisement said it was linux compatable
[03:37] <hardw1re> bbiab
[03:37] <dubnium> anyone know much about bluez (bluetooth) packages? theres an install conflict with bluez-sdp and bluez-utils
[03:37] <ubercompuser> ChurcH_of_FoamY, i have a di-604 as a backup under my bed. it has been flawless. HIGHLY recommended
[03:37] <darkheart> gmoore Which ports are you using?
[03:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.< the port forwarding is shot on it
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats why i'm getting a new one
[03:38] <gmoore> darkheart 4096 and it's forwarded by my router
[03:38] <ubercompuser> on it di?
[03:38] <biscuit_> Does anyone use Linuxant?
[03:38] <darkheart> gmoore and you're not running a firewall on your box correct?
[03:38] <ubercompuser> have u set the box to factory defaults?
[03:38] <dfeed> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I'm still bitter at belkin from having to compile random drivers to get my wireless card working.
[03:38] <gmoore> darkheart: fresh ubuntu install so i don't think so
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> do you have to use there cards with the router or can i mix and match?
[03:39] <ubercompuser> mix and match
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> like the router and oh say a d-link wireless card
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok cool
[03:39] <gmoore> darkheart: im on a network and this computer (winxp) can connect to the ubuntu ftp server both internally (192.168.x.x) and externally (24.x.x.x) so the server works... it's just some port stupidity.
[03:39] <ubercompuser> when i did have a wireless network i have two linksys cards.
[03:39] <svizzero> e : Eclipse project http://www.eclipse.org - latest stable release: 3.1.0; latest development release: 3.2 M1
[03:39] <svizzero> * Argomento per #eclipse scelto da vektor il Sun Aug 14 18:06:54 2005
[03:39] <svizzero> svizzero svizzero anyone knows how to solve the following eclipse/sun jdk error:  Activation.main: warning: sun.rmi.activation.execPolicy system property unspecified...?
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> nice
[03:40] <beekay> thank you very much for that ati fix
[03:40] <ubercompuser> i trust wired networks over wireless
[03:40] <beekay> how come so many people complain about it if its that easy to fix
[03:40] <darkheart> gmoore Okay, this is what I get: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[03:40] <ubercompuser> but u cant give the belkin a go if u dare?
[03:41] <gmoore> darkheart are you sure you used the right port? its not running on 21
[03:41] <darkheart> beekay You got it working? =) that's good. People have different setups and get different problems.
[03:41] <darkheart> gmoore LoL sorry, my mistake.
[03:41] <beekay> ah
[03:41] <biscuit__> Does anyone use Linuxant?
[03:41] <beekay> yes it was so simple
[03:41] <beekay> thank you
[03:41] <beekay> that was great
[03:42] <reiki> anyone else have Spamassassin working with Evolution? It's kinda slow. Wondering if anyone's found a way to speed it up.
[03:42] <darkheart> beekay Glad you got it working.
[03:42] <Wanderer_> It still didn't work, TristanMike.
[03:42] <ubercompuser> i swore off belkin network products FOREVER, but there other products are great
[03:42] <darkheart> reiki SpamAssassin can take a bit of resource...Do you know how it is called?
[03:42] <Ice9> alright, who can help me with my ati radeon 9250 problem? I've tried just about everything to get 3d acceleration working
[03:42] <dubnium> i only bought belkin stuff cause it was cheap... you get what u pay for
[03:42] <reiki> darkheart: : I know how *I'm* calling it. Not sure I understand your question
[03:43] <ubercompuser> yep
[03:43] <darkheart> reiki How are you calling it then?
[03:43] <biscuit__> Do USB modems work well with linux?
[03:43] <darkheart> gmoore I'm getting that build data connection error.
[03:43] <ubercompuser> i bought 50ft of belkin ehternet cable and it couldnt be better. but wireless is a different subject
[03:43] <gmoore> darkheart:       horror :(
[03:43] <ubercompuser> use ethernet if you can
[03:43] <reiki> darkheart: I'm piping incoming messages (using a filter in Evolution) through /usr/bin/spamassassin -P -e --local
[03:44] <Wanderer_> TristanMike?
[03:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well i found a really good review website for this router and i'm reading it now
[03:45] <darkheart> gmoore Hmm...I recall ftp requiring another 'data' port...I think that's what's being blocked. Typically you connect on 21 and the data connection is on 22
[03:45] <ubercompuser> well like i said u can give it a spin and see how it works for you.
[03:45] <gmoore> oh god i just checked castaglia's guide
[03:45] <Wanderer_> tristanmike?
[03:45] <gmoore> it seems i've done everything right except this step:
[03:45] <gmoore> "However, one big problem still exists. The passive FTP connections will use ports from 1024 and up, which means that you must forward all ports 1024-65535 from the NAT to the FTP server! "
[03:45] <gmoore> that would probably be the cause of my problems. :O
[03:45] <darkheart> gmoore LoL...Don't use PASV then, use PORT>
[03:46] <darkheart> reiki By slow...how slow is that?
[03:46] <darkheart> reiki Or..how slow is slow?
[03:46] <biscuit__> 56k is just a tiny bit slow (Being sarcastic)
[03:46] <darkheart> reiki Are you attached to Evolution?
[03:46] <reiki> darkheart: takes about 2 or 3 seconds per email when I hit my pop server
[03:47] <guto> is there any guy here that has a v2311us laptop?
[03:47] <darkheart> reiki That sounds right, depending on how SpamAssassin is check it for spam. Are you using network tests?
[03:47] <gmoore> oh god, darkheart i think i may have fixed it. can you try reconnecting?
[03:47] <reiki> darkheart: define "attached" to Evolution please
[03:47] <biscuit__> guto: Why do you ask
[03:47] <darkheart> gmoore Sure thing.
[03:47] <reiki> darkheart: it didn't seem to make a difference adding the --local parm. I thought that would tell it to stay local and not go network
[03:47] <guto> i am trying to get my broadcom wireless card working
[03:48] <darkheart> gmoore I get a "500 Illegal PORT command, ftp: bind: Address already in use", but it's a step forward =) different error.
[03:48] <reiki> darkheart: so I'm thinking it's that slow just using --local which it's SUPPOSED to do by default if available
[03:48] <gmoore> darkheart: okay i think i just fixed that as well :) one more reconnec
[03:48] <guto> biscuit_, do you have one?
[03:49] <darkheart> reiki No, that's not the correct switch to disable network tests, I don't think.
[03:49] <Wanderer_> TRISTAN MIKE!
[03:49] <reiki> darkheart: but at least it's working... which seems to be a giant step forward. And very simple to implement
[03:49] <felesh> hi
[03:49] <darkheart> gmoore LoL, that actually put it back to step 1, error 425
[03:49] <gmoore> argh
[03:49] <gmoore> try pasv?
[03:49] <felesh> i have read in the list of ubuntu that breezy is stable? is true? why in the official web not say nothing
[03:49] <darkheart> gmoore Keep trying, you are getting there.
[03:50] <yath> felesh: I had troubles installing breezy.
[03:50] <reiki> -L, --local                       Local tests only (no online tests)
[03:50] <felesh> yath, what problems?
[03:50] <yath> felesh: it's possible that it will work, but it isn't as stable as 5.04 by any means
[03:50] <reiki> ^^^ from the man pages for spamassassin
[03:50] <darkheart> gmoore Btw, try googling for that error and seeing what other people have to say. Might offer some valuable insight.
[03:50] <gmoore> darkheart: i've tried, most of the fixes i've tried haven't done anything ;(
[03:51] <Wanderer_> Does anyone know where Mike went?
[03:51] <yath> felesh: my particular problem was that I have 2 network adapters on this system, and only one would work, and I chose that one, and then breezy decided to swap them, and so tried to use the inoperative one and couldn't finish.
[03:51] <felesh> yath, but is a release candidate or a finished version?
[03:52] <reiki> darkheart: so the parms are ... -P (pipe output rather than deliver it), -e (throw an error), and --local (don't do network tests)
[03:52] <yath> felesh: I don't think that breezy has either of those things. Just test releases.
[03:52] <reiki> darkheart:  or at least that's my understanding thus far
[03:52] <yath> felesh: This was with Colony 3.
[03:52] <darkheart> reiki Yeah, that should be correct then...But you might try running spamd and then calling spamc with those switches.
[03:53] <felesh> yath, and why is named colony 3 if is named breezy?
[03:53] <Wanderer_> I repeat, does anyone know where Tristan Mike went?
[03:53] <yath> felesh: I don't know, maybe normal folks would call it "alpha 3" :)
[03:53] <felesh> yath, hahaha
[03:53] <reiki> darkheart: ok... run spamd by enabling spamassassin start on boot?  and then replace spamc instead of /usr/bin/spamassassin ?
[03:53] <darkheart> gmoore Let's start from an easier step, just set the ftp server up for default ports and see if we can connect from there.
[03:53] <pobstil> how can I set up a user, that can _only_ access his home folder, and nothing else?
[03:54] <felesh> shazan25, has you read this? breezy cause problems yet :)
[03:54] <darkheart> reiki Well, don't load it at boot yet, just try running spamd, then using spamc instead of spamassassin
[03:54] <gmoore> darkheart: okay, i got PASV working. i just don't think i'll get port working :(
[03:55] <reiki> darkheart: ok... reading man pages for spamc to get parms right...
[03:55] <darkheart> gmoore Still getting 425 error.
[03:55] <gmoore> darkheart: port or pasv?
[03:55] <darkheart> gmoore Err..looked like port actually
[03:55] <gmoore> pasv SHOULD work now
[03:56] <darkheart> gmoore Alright, it works on pasv.
[03:56] <gmoore> okay, at least i have a functioning ftp for now :)
[03:56] <darkheart> gmoore =)
[03:57] <gmoore> could you also try logging in using other methods besides ftp to make sure that user is secure? im new to both linux and ubuntu and probably shouldnt be trying this at all :)
[03:57] <kaz> does anyone know how to make a downloaded picture file a background file for enlightenment 17
[03:57] <benplaut> hello
[03:57] <benplaut> ?
[03:57] <boxerboy> hi everyone i hear that theres a ubuntu  version 6 comming out is that breezy or is that ubuntu?
[03:57] <LinuxJones> boxerboy, breezy is in october
[03:58] <pobstil> how can I set up a user, that can _only_ access his home folder, and nothing else?
[03:58] <darkheart> reiki Btw, I asked you earlier if you were stuck on Evolution because the typical way to use spamassassin is to use an MTA that has a spamassassin filter plugged in. It is more difficult to set up though, and mail will be delivered locally on your system after fetching it from a remote host.
[03:58] <darkheart> pobstil Why would you want to do that?
[03:58] <kaz> does anyone here use enlightenment inside ubuntu
[03:58] <darkheart> kaz e16 or 17?
[03:58] <kaz> 17
[03:58] <darkheart> kaz I have used it before.
[03:58] <reiki> darkheart: right now I'm actually shooting for simplicity. Most desktop users won't set up an MTA or know how.
[03:59] <pobstil> so I can have my mates connect to my ubnutu server and so I can host their website. But I don't want them to access anything else other than whats theres
[03:59] <gmoore> darkheart: can you try port again? :) last time hopefully (even if it doesnt work ill stop bugging you ;)     )
[03:59] <kaz> ok I need to know how to take a picture I downloaded and make it my background.  I guess things don't work the same in 17
[04:00] <darkheart> reiki Okay, then you might have to live with that bit of slowness...See, the thing is, I *think* the spamassassin file itself is a perl script (you can check), and hence it's a bit slower to run. The spamd and spamc binaries are compiled C.
[04:00] <pobstil> darkheart: so I can have my mates connect to my ubnutu server and so I can host their website. But I don't want them to access anything else other than whats theres
[04:00] <darkheart> kaz No, things are completely different than previous versions. You really need to read to use e17 in its current state. What you need, you can find at http://get-e.org/
[04:01] <boxerboy> i saw a site of desktop themes but they are pics with whoever took the screen shot had other things on it so i guess i leave xfce alone?
[04:01] <kaz> thank you.....I have it all almost setup completely  I just really like my own backdrops
[04:01] <GrYpHoN> I need some advice.  I am majorly new ti linux.   I have my broadcomm wireless found and loaded the driver using ndiswrapper, but it dosent show in the network area as a network device.  ANy input would be appreciated.  Im LOST!  lol
[04:02] <darkheart> pobstil Well, I know what you are thinking, but that kind of undermines a Linux system. Usually people aren't locked into a directory (chroot), because they can't really do any damage if the system has proper permissions.
[04:02] <reiki> darkheart: using sudo /usr/bin/spamc -c -e and it's about 5 to 7 seconds per email. This wouldn't b good for anyone who pulls 100 email in a shot
[04:02] <jtan325> Gryphon, what does "iwconfig" show
[04:02] <gmoore> a
[04:02] <GrYpHoN> Only my loopback
[04:02] <darkheart> reiki There's no switch to use only local tests?
[04:02] <reiki> darkheart: not for spamc that I can find
[04:03] <LinuxJones> GrYpHoN, I wish I could help but I don't have a wireless card...have you searched the wiki page there is a howto for wireless users
[04:03] <berny> Hello is true the lauch of the New Ubuntu 5.10 stable version?
[04:03] <pobstil> darkheart, but it would stop my mates from looking at what is in all the other directories, even though they wouldn't. is it possible though?
[04:03] <darkheart> gmoore Trying port, sorry for the delay
[04:03] <GrYpHoN> I did not know... Thanks mate.  I will check it out
[04:03] <reiki> darkheart: I'm going to try adding the --local switch to spamc and see if it has an effect
[04:04] <reiki> course now I'll have to wait for more mail :)
[04:04] <darkheart> pobstil It is possible, I believe you are looking to chroot your users. I can't help you specifically, though since I don't know myself...Try googling 'chrooting shell users' or something like that.
[04:04] <darkheart> gmoore Still 425 for port
[04:04] <pobstil> darkheard, ok thanks
[04:04] <gmoore> darkheart: okay, ill just leave it for tonight i guess. thanks for your help!
[04:04] <LinuxJones> GrYpHoN, GL and don't give up ... come back tomorrow if you need help :)
[04:05] <darkheart> reiki Okay. If that doesn't help, you may just be SOL for spamassassin. I'm a network engineer and I use it at work to filter out spam in a corporate environment, but on dedicated mail gateways.
[04:05] <reiki> darkheart: and an interesting observation... it appears that Evolution runs its junk filter BEFORE processing other filters. So I get messages in Junk folder AND SPam folder
[04:05] <darkheart> gmoore =) Okay, hope you get it working the way you want.
[04:06] <Ice9> alright, who can help me with my ati radeon 9250 problem? I've tried just about everything to get 3d acceleration working
[04:06] <darkheart> reiki You seem like a fellow that does read up on things, so I'm just asking this just in case, but have you tried googling about spamassassin/evolution/slow filtering?
[04:07] <felesh> One question, the Colony 3 is the breezy stable??? or the development brach of Breezy????
[04:07] <reiki> darkheart: yeah and everyone that gets this working seems to have the same problem and I've not found a solution
[04:07] <reiki> darkheart: but they were using a fetchmail procmail setup. I thought this might be faster because it was simpler. :)
[04:08] <darkheart> reiki Wow, that should actually be faster...I mean, the delay will be there but if you have an automated fetchmail to get your mail then procmail to filter it, it should be ready and waiting for you in general.
[04:09] <D1> how do I install NetworkManager on Breezy (Colony3 live cd)?
[04:09] <reiki> darkheart: yeah, but that goes against the "simplicity" aspect. I like Ubuntu and what it's offering. The idea of a simple-to-install, non-MS desktop is exciting to me. HAving to make users set up an MTA or fetchmail procmail is too complicated
[04:11] <jorgp> anyone get transcode w/ breezy installed?
[04:11] <dubnium> therees gones my damn belkin dropping my connection... twice today
[04:11] <darkheart> reiki Right, I understand what you meant earlier and like I said, you may just be stuck with that delay if you can't find a different method to filter spam.
[04:11] <QMario> Hello bob2! :)
[04:13] <tristanmike> LinuxJones, that didn't work, nothing changed, still loads and goes through a bunch of lines of text to fast to see with the last line being "PS/2 mouse device common for all mice"
[04:13] <tristanmike> LinuxJones, the Live CD does the same thing for him too
[04:14] <MrPockets> whats the deal i need to play some games in Ubuntu?
[04:16] <pmazer> anyone know of a way to stream music from a mac with itunes through a linux box and out speakers?
[04:16] <ORiON> daapclient?
[04:17] <ORiON> pmazer: I think vlc supports daap
[04:17] <glick> MrPockets, thre are generally crappy games for linux
[04:18] <MrPockets> i have a duel boot going, so im not worried about it, but i know Enemy Teratory has linux versions
[04:18] <glick> i dont miss the games that much
[04:18] <glick> since i mainly use my computer for work and such
[04:18] <glick> listening to music
[04:18] <glick> watchin movies
[04:19] <MrPockets> yeah, im on this damn box 23/7
[04:19] <pmazer> what's the deb package called for daap?
[04:19] <nickrud>  frozen bubble is nice for stress relief
[04:19] <DonL> I downloaded a demo of UT2004 and I can't get too far in that, so I'm happy
[04:19] <ORiON> theres always americas army too
[04:19] <MrPockets> still clueless on the Bittorrent too, so i use windows to DL my media
[04:19] <liraz> My OO2 fonts are ultra-ugly, OO2 seems to have set up  it's own font rendering thing... all the same fonts like Arial are perfect in the original OpenOffice but in the second one I cant get it the same.
[04:20] <MrPockets> speaking of, do you know what the plug in is that allows XMMS to play vids?
[04:20] <liraz> Any ideas why?.. I am forced to use OO2 for compatiblity reasons with a foreign language
[04:20] <oceandead> bittorrent is just as easy on ubuntu as it is windoze
[04:20] <MrPockets> i dont use bittorrent in windows :-p
[04:20] <ORiON> MrPockets: http://thegraveyard.org/xmmplayer.php
[04:20] <oceandead> well theres lame, amule etc etc for p2p
[04:21] <MrPockets> thanks
[04:21] <Ice9> alright, who can help me with my ati radeon 9250 problem? I've tried just about everything to get 3d acceleration working
[04:21] <DonL> Ice9, sorry. I use NVidia
[04:21] <glick> i wonder what kina OS and hardware God runs to manage creation
[04:21] <alxarch> me too on a x600 mobility
[04:21] <nickrud> 6502, most likely\
[04:22] <MrPockets> and last, do you know where i can download custom Icons,  not themes but just single icons?
[04:22] <pmazer> ORiON, how do i go about setting this up?
[04:22] <ORiON> MrPockets: might be something a bit more up to date here: http://www.xmms.org/plugins.php?category=input
[04:23] <MrPockets> i got the first one and deleted it already,  no idea how to install it
[04:23] <D1> how can I get networkmanager on breezy? Can anyone help me?
[04:23] <ORiON> pmazer: setting what up?
[04:23] <D1> its not in synaptic
[04:23] <pmazer> ORiON, daap
[04:24] <indie> how can I download wine from synaptic, the site doesn't explain it all to well.
[04:25] <liraz> Welll does anyone know what to do about the Openoffice 2 fonts?
[04:25] <oceandead> upgrading to breezy is an interesting experience
[04:26] <ORiON> pmazer: I thought you were streaming FROM a mac TO linux, there shouldn't be much setup in linux as long as you've got dnssd setup
[04:26] <jmn_ubuntu> guys im a bit of a noob im trying to use cfdisk on unbuntu live and i fatal error cannot open disk drive
[04:26] <jmn_ubuntu> can someone help
[04:26] <nickrud> are we doing breezy questions now? If so, anyone got a link to start working with beagle?
[04:26] <ORiON> aka zeroconf
[04:27] <tristanmike> LinuxJones, excuse me, are you still around?
[04:27] <abyss> lo exists anyway to hear internet radios?
[04:27] <oceandead> did you unmount the drive
[04:27] <oceandead> i thought zerconf wasnt gonna be ready for a while
[04:28] <jmn_ubuntu> well as far as i can see its not mounted @ all theres no hdd icon on the desktop or in the system menu
[04:29] <QMario> Hello thoreauputic! :)
[04:29] <oceandead> im definitely gonna have to do a fresh install of breezy ... cant see any text in firefox
[04:30] <thoreauputic> QMario: hi
[04:31] <benjamin1254> hey guys sup im havin issues with mozilla firefox it doesent wana start
[04:31] <vitriol> anybody know a fix for the breezy 2.6.12 kernel saying that the / partition doesn't exist?
[04:31] <QMario> !Botsnack
[04:31] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[04:31] <pobstil> anyone know how to chroot a user?
[04:32] <vitriol> pobstil: as that user do 'chroot /path/to/place/you/want/to/chroot /bin/bash'
[04:32] <vitriol> i think
[04:33] <pobstil> ok I'll try that
[04:33] <MrCroup> pobstil: do you mean put the user in a chrooted jail on login ?
[04:33] <pobstil> yup
[04:33] <vitriol> benjamin1254: i would answer you if i knew...did you try ps x | grep firefox then kill the pid if running?
[04:33] <MrCroup> then its a bit more complicated that just using the chroot command
[04:33] <benplaut> benjamin1254, "sudo killall firefox-bin", then try again
[04:33] <FR500> hello
[04:33] <vitriol> benjamin1254: thats a long shot that i don't know if it'll help
[04:33] <jmn_ubuntu> should i need any extra boot parameters to have unbuntu mount my hdd it doesnt seem to want to
[04:34] <pobstil> I thought so, the chroot command doesn't work as the user I want to chroot..
[04:34] <benjamin1254> nope i just start on my user account start it up then it blanks out and doesent show up ... plz speek in newbish words cuz i dident understand a word of what u asked
[04:34] <vitriol> so...anybody know what the deal is with the breezy 2.6.12 kernel not recognizing the root partition??
[04:34] <vitriol> benjamin1254: sorry :)
[04:34] <FR500> i have a cell phone, from the company, it's a crappy kyocera rave, it has this USB cable that allows me to surf internet from the pc, but i don't know how to make it work in linux
[04:34] <MrCroup> pobstil: there should be a chroot jail howto and some scripts to assist setting oneup
[04:34] <FR500> any idear?
[04:34] <vitriol> benjamin1254: here's another idea: you can delete your firefox profile
[04:34] <MrCroup> pobstil: I just don't have them handy
[04:34] <vitriol> benjamin1254: to do that, on a command prompt do 'rm -rf .firefox*'
[04:35] <pobstil> do you think you could find them for me? or point me where to look?
[04:35] <vitriol> i think it's .firefox
[04:35] <flugh> or .mozilla-firefox
[04:35] <vitriol> if not that, it will be something like .mozilla
[04:35] <vitriol> yeah
[04:35] <MrCroup> pobstil: google?
[04:35] <FR500> benjamin1254: first try killall firefox-bin
[04:35] <MrCroup> pobstil: verily google is your friend
[04:35] <vitriol> benjamin1254: your firefox profile could have somehow got garbled
[04:35] <pobstil> haha true that
[04:35] <QMario> Are you guys already using Breezy Ubuntu?
[04:35] <ORiON> QMario: I am
[04:35] <vitriol> QMario: i'm trying to
[04:36] <vitriol> can't get the kernel to see my root fs :(
[04:36] <flugh> I'm waiting for Sleezy
[04:36] <glick> Ubuntu should claim on its website that its the only linux distro officially supported by Jesus himself! a lot more people would start using it
[04:36] <vitriol> so have to use 2.6.11
[04:36] <QMario> ORiON, where can I see screenshots of Breezy?
[04:36] <glick> flugh, that would be a great name
[04:36] <ORiON> QMario: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
[04:36] <glick> whats this naming after animals crap thats boring
[04:36] <ORiON> QMario: that's all it is, gnome 2.12
[04:36] <glick> ubuntu sleezy slut
[04:37] <glick> that would be hot
[04:37] <glick> hehe
[04:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[04:37] <flugh> glick: i'd follow up with a super-secure version code-named 'whore'
[04:37] <glick> heh
[04:37] <flugh> you know, just cause it'd be 1337 ;)
[04:37] <vitriol> i would search the forums over my problem if i could get x working
[04:37] <ORiON> QMario: there have been a few threads withSSs in the forums too
[04:37] <vitriol> i was counting on that kernel upgrade though
[04:37] <[[c0rrupt] ] > the bees are buzzing in the tree to make some honey just for me.
[04:38] <EnsignRedshirt> Has anyone used a program like photopc to talk to a digital camera with a USB interface?
[04:38] <ORiON> vitriol: lynx is your friend when things go wrong
[04:38] <flugh> vitriol: lynx, or telnet google.com:80 ;)
[04:39] <EnsignRedshirt> I get an error "Cannot claim the USB device"
[04:39] <ksmurf> Is anyone that is use breezy have the nvidia drivers working?  I need help
[04:39] <ORiON> ksmurf: yeah, what's wrong?
[04:39] <vitriol> lol
[04:39] <vitriol> true i should've thought of that
[04:39] <ksmurf> ORioN I can't get them working
[04:40] <ORiON> vitriol: by the way, are your drivers ok ? :P
[04:40] <benjamin1254> should i just kill firefox an reinstall it?
[04:40] <glick> flugh, what about the shaved beaver release
[04:40] <ORiON> ksmurf: that doesn't help much, what kind of errors is X spitting uot?
[04:40] <ORiON> out*
[04:40] <flugh> glick: delayed due to the olsen twins growing up too fast
[04:41] <glick> heh,
[04:41] <[[c0rrupt] ] > Lol
[04:41] <ksmurf> ORioN I just clean installed Colony3 of breezy because my xorg had a FATAL on the nvidia Driver
[04:41] <glick> god i hate the olsen twins, their fugly trolls their not hot at all i dont see why everyone is like oooooh the olson twins makeme so horny
[04:41] <[[c0rrupt] ] > lmfao
[04:41] <[[c0rrupt] ] > ga
[04:41] <[[c0rrupt] ] > y
[04:42] <FR500> i get a problem updating my repositories: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/source/Sources.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[04:42] <ksmurf> ORioN So I'm looking at do the nvidia-glx package if I can
[04:43] <jmn_ubuntu> what is root pwd fer ubuntu live (hoary)
[04:43] <ksmurf> root
[04:43] <jmn_ubuntu> tried that
[04:43] <ksmurf> sudo
[04:43] <ORiON> ksmurf: Ok, so have you installed the restricted nvidia module?
[04:43] <ksmurf> Orion Yes
[04:43] <jmn_ubuntu> still not working
[04:43] <cyphase> does anyone know if breezy is going to support more drivers through ndiswrapper?
[04:43] <thoreauputic> jmn_ubuntu: just open the root terminal
[04:44] <Styx> How do I install Java support for Firefox?
[04:44] <thoreauputic> !java
[04:44] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:44] <glick> does anyone here like coding in java
[04:44] <glick> am i the only one that hates it?
[04:44] <FR500> any repos were i can get the latest "mergeant2?
[04:44] <Quest-Master> Most people here prefer Python
[04:44] <FR500> *mergeant
[04:45] <glick> i talked to a CE collegue of mine and he was ramblin and raving about how fantastic java is
[04:45] <ORiON> ksmurf: and the module is loaded?
[04:45] <glick> i wanted to back hand him one
[04:45] <pobstil> MrCroup: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=chroot+jail  is that what we're talking about?
[04:45] <cyphase> Python is great
[04:46] <MrCroup> pobstil: yeah that looks like it
[04:47] <str8edge> thoreauputic: how's it going?
[04:47] <pobstil> cool thanks
[04:47] <thoreauputic> str8edge: OK - I had some bad news about the death of an old family friend yesterday so I'm not 100%
[04:48] <str8edge> thoreauputic: my condolences.
[04:48] <ksmurf> how would I install the module?  Modprobe?
[04:48] <str8edge> the #dashboard channel on gimpnet is rocking tonight!
[04:48] <QMario> Is the Sempron64 a good processor?
[04:48] <ORiON> ksmurf: lsmod to make sure its loaded, if not modprobe nvidia
[04:49] <ksmurf> FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[04:49] <ksmurf> I have to install it first do I not?
[04:49] <ORiON> ksmurf: then you don't have it installed
[04:49] <ksmurf> Correct
[04:49] <thoreauputic> str8edge: thanks
[04:50] <ORiON> ksmurf: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules
[04:50] <ORiON> ksmurf: you'll need to choose the right one for your arch
[04:51] <ksmurf> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-7-686-smp is what I have istalled
[04:51] <QMario> Is the Sempron64 a "good" processor?
[04:51] <[[c0rrupt] ] > nien
[04:52] <QMario> Sorry for asking "twice". :-[
[04:52] <str8edge> qmario: if you can afford the extra $$ for a true amd64, go that way.
[04:52] <EnsignRedshirt> Any USB gurus here?  I'm trying to talk to a digital camera.
[04:52] <MrCroup> QMario: its evil
[04:52] <QMario>  Hee hee hee. 
[04:52] <[[c0rrupt] ] > 
[04:52] <Ice9> how can I get my usb gamepad to work?
[04:52] <QMario> MrCroup, how?
[04:52] <ksmurf> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-7-686-smp is already the newest version
[04:53] <ORiON> ksmurf: have you updated your kernel recently?
[04:53] <ORiON> ksmurf: without rebooting?
[04:53] <user1> anyone using ubuntu on an HP pavilion with the intel 2200 wifi chipset?
[04:53] <ORiON> ksmurf: make sure you have nvidia-kernel-common as well
[04:53] <ksmurf> No.  This Is a Fresh Breezy Install
[04:53] <ksmurf> I do
[04:54] <ksmurf> My kerrnal is 2.6.12-7
[04:54] <ksmurf> amp
[04:54] <ksmurf> smp
[04:56] <ksmurf> ORiON http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/341344
[04:56] <freedomjazzdance> Good night!
[04:56] <zerboxx> If I'm using one program to download torrents, and I want to switch, is it possible to resume the downloads but change programs?
[04:57] <QMario> Freedomjazzdance, good night!
[04:57] <QMario> Sleep tight.
[04:57] <glick> wow ubuntu is still #1 on distro watch all the other distros are losing to it
[04:57] <QMario> Don't let the Windows' viruses bite! ;)
[04:57] <freedomjazzdance> QMario, heehh dont worry i'm using protection
[04:58] <FR500> any repos were i can get the latest "mergeant?
[04:58] <BTJustice> Might anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.
[05:00] <bluefoxicy> yawn,.
[05:00] <bz0b> can someone tell me where to get some good sources?
[05:00] <bz0b> for my sources.list file
[05:00] <QMario> Bluefoxicy, are you "tired"?
[05:00] <QMario> !sources
[05:00] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> QMario:  bored, deciding if I should put part of my paper on the ubuntu wiki and try to hijack community members and developers to do my dirty work.
[05:01] <QMario> Ubotu, tell bz0b about sources.
[05:01] <bluefoxicy> QMario: want to make a small backend technology to let applications deliver simple messages to the user
[05:01] <QMario> Bluefoxicy, are you being "sarcastic"? :(
[05:02] <bluefoxicy> QMario:  the major use of course is to bring up security concerns, i.e. explain encrypting e-mail, automatic updates, SPF verification for spoofed e-mails, anti-spoofing bars. . .
[05:02] <pjw> Hi all, Can I download the ubuntu with sources? Where are sources? I just found binary files :(
[05:02] <bluefoxicy> QMario:  nah.
[05:03] <QMario>  Ubotu, tell pjw about sources.
[05:03] <thoreauputic> pjw: of course - look in /etc/apt/sources.list and you'll see "src" lines there
[05:03] <i4> hello shentu
[05:04] <metis> is anyone familiar with setting up creloaded?
[05:04] <kevin06> Is there a simple solution to installing TrueType fonts on Ubuntu? I used the ttmkdir thing that I found a tutorial for, but IO keep getting a segmentation fault. Has anyone written a drag-and grop font solution yet?
[05:04] <shentu> anybody knows how to avoid into the Gnome GUI after reboot?
[05:04] <thoreauputic> pjw: source is available for all packages in main and universe at least
[05:04] <thoreauputic> shentu: permanently ?
[05:04] <nickrud> kevin06, just drop any ttf font in $HOME/.fonts, and it should be available for most apps
[05:04] <GatoLoko^> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processo Speed: 451.064 MHz Cache: 64 KB ]  | RAM Usage: 79/384M [|||||||||||]  ( 20.6% ) | [ HD Model: Maxtor 86480D6 Size: 5G with 3G Free ( 60.0% ) ]  | Number of process: 59
[05:05] <GatoLoko^> y tu te quejas de tu equipo
[05:05] <GatoLoko^> xP
[05:05] <BTJustice> Might anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.
[05:05] <GatoLoko^> ups
[05:05] <bluefoxicy> QMario: eh, I'll make a wiki, someone will delete it if it's ugly :P
[05:05] <metis> can anyone help me with sendmail?
[05:05] <kevin06> nickrud, I don't have .fonts. Do I merely have to create it?
[05:05] <nickrud> kevin06, yes
[05:06] <shentu> hi thoreauputic, not permanently, but I would like to have this option. In fedora, if I set the runlevel to 3 in /etc/inittab, that will be fine
[05:06] <metis> sry i meant postfix
[05:06] <nickrud> that ttmkfdir whatever, is very obsolete
[05:06] <benplaut> how do i (non-GUIly) install mouse cursors?
[05:07] <[[c0rrupt] ] > apt-get install windoz
[05:07] <thoreauputic> shentu: you can either do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ,, or edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and comment out the /usr/bin/gdm
[05:07] <tristanmike> BTJustice, check out this thread and see if it helps....http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307&highlight=sound+blaster+24bit
[05:07] <Flonne> BTJustice, ALSA 1.0.8, which shipped with Hoary, introduced primitive support for those cards in the form of the snd-ca0106 module. ALSA is now up to 1.0.9b, so hopefully, Breezy will improve support.
[05:07] <shentu> thoreauputic, many thanks!
[05:07] <thoreauputic> shentu: no problem :)
[05:08] <glick> wow ubuntu is still #1 on distro watch all the other distros are losing to it
[05:08] <glick> sorry
[05:08] <glick> wrong active window
[05:09] <juanej> hey, how do i go back to metacity... I was using openbox
[05:09] <pjw> thoreauputic: but, i would like to download distribution with all sources and to have in a DVD disk, Is any file (.tar.gz) with all sources? English language isn't my first language, so I can make some mistakes in sentences :P
[05:09] <kevin06> One more question. When I have a LOT of fonts,. I have been told it slows the system down. Is this true, and is there any simple way to reduce this slow-down?
[05:09] <Flonne> juanej metacity --replace, just like how you switched to Openbox. Or logout.
[05:10] <thoreauputic> pjw: hmm - packages.ubuntu.com  , or archive.ubuntu.com
[05:10] <nickrud> I've been told it slows down the X startup only, but have no benchmarks
[05:10] <juanej> Flonne: but i do that and then next time i log in nautilius doesnt load
[05:10] <juanej> i have to open it to see the background
[05:10] <thoreauputic> pjw: the packages are on the archive site
[05:10] <str8edge> pwj: head over to the debian site, and look up how to set up a mirror, then use something to burn it to a dvd
[05:11] <str8edge> the debian method for setting up a local mirror applies well to ubuntu.
[05:11] <Flonne> juanej, did you change to Openbox entirely? (Like, did you change from Gnome?)
[05:11] <juanej> Flonne: i edited .xinitrc to load openbox when i logged in
[05:12] <[[c0rrupt] ] > when i apt-get update
[05:12] <[[c0rrupt] ] > The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/httpu could not be found.
[05:12] <pjw> thank you all
[05:12] <Flonne> juanej, have you tried simply moving .xinitrc?
[05:12] <juanej> i remove it, but it doesnt seem to work
[05:13] <str8edge> pwj: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Network-Install-HOWTO-8.html
[05:13] <Flonne> juanej, have you tried restarting after that?
[05:13] <juanej> yep
[05:13] <str8edge> i've been using debian WAY too long.
[05:13] <Ice9> how can I get my usb gamepad to work?
[05:14] <str8edge> Ice9: what type fo gamepad?
[05:14] <Ice9> saitek 2500
[05:15] <[[c0rrupt] ] > The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/httpu could not be found.
[05:15] <vader1102> night people
[05:15] <thoreauputic> [[c0rrupt] ] : breezy?
[05:15] <[[c0rrupt] ] > nope
[05:15] <thoreauputic> hmm
[05:15] <[[c0rrupt] ] > hoary
[05:16] <[[c0rrupt] ] > its not actually my pc its a friend im ssh
[05:16] <[[c0rrupt] ] > he just installed it
[05:16] <sockpuppe1> thoreauputic i need some help
[05:16] <sockpuppe1> if you don't mind
[05:16] <juanej> when will be breezy stable?
[05:16] <str8edge> ice9: usb?
[05:16] <thoreauputic> sockpuppe1: don't we all? *grin*
[05:16] <thoreauputic> !ask
[05:16] <str8edge> juanej: some time in october
[05:17] <sockpuppe1>  error while loading shared libraries: libjack.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:17] <Ice9> str8edge, yes
[05:17] <sockpuppe1> what should I do to rectify this
[05:17] <thoreauputic> !tell sockpuppe1 about ask
[05:17] <nickrud> ubotu ask is there is no such thing as a stupid question
[05:17] <ubotu> ...but ask is already something else...
[05:17] <pjw> str8edge: Does Ubuntu have newer packages than the Debian? If it is true, I can't download, because I would like to have the newest software :P
[05:17] <nickrud> !tell nickrud about ask
[05:18] <[[c0rrupt] ] > !kernel headers
[05:18] <ubotu> [[c0rrupt] ] : Wish i knew
[05:18] <str8edge> pjw: some stuff is newer, depends on what you're looking for. I use debian stable on my server, and ubuntu everywhere else
[05:18] <[[c0rrupt] ] > !headers
[05:18] <ubotu> [[c0rrupt] ] : Not a clue
[05:18] <thoreauputic> sockpuppe1: what are you doing that gives that error?
[05:18] <sockpuppe1> trying to run a program called aqualung
[05:18] <str8edge> pjw: my ps2 even has debian installed on it.
[05:19] <thoreauputic> sockpuppe1: how did you install this program?
[05:19] <str8edge> ice9: do you see the gamepad activate when you plug it in?
[05:19] <[[c0rrupt] ] > !kernel
[05:19] <sockpuppe1> compiled it
[05:19] <cyphase> brb, about to install breezy colony 3 on my dev machine :)
[05:19] <str8edge> sockpuppel: do you have libjack installed?
[05:19] <Tennessee> Hi all. I want to make a DVD that will play in a DVD player (i.e. not just a data disc) from an avi. Anyone know how?
[05:19] <sockpuppe1> yeah str8edge
[05:20] <thoreauputic> sockpuppe1: sounds like the jackd sound daemon is needed
[05:20] <Ice9> str8edge, no
[05:20] <str8edge> sockpuppel: are you running jackd -d alsa or somesuch before starting aqualung?
[05:20] <QMario> Tennessee, this would probably require "illegal" software.
[05:20] <Tennessee> QM: Surely the software itself is not illegal...
[05:20] <QMario> Implying libdvdcss2.
[05:21] <Quest-Master> Tennessee: QMario you mean?
[05:21] <Quest-Master> Oh, never mind
[05:21] <Dime> how do i add commands to my start for my soundcard example modprobe
[05:21] <Quest-Master> It highlighted me, lol
[05:21] <Tennessee> I don't need to rip anything, just write.
[05:21] <str8edge> ice9: can you tell me what happens in the syslog when you plug the pad?
[05:21] <sockpuppe1> str8edge i dont think so
[05:21] <QMario> Tennessee, that is all I know on the topic.
[05:21] <Tennessee> Sorry Quest...
[05:21] <Tennessee> cheers anyway mario
[05:21] <Ice9> str8edge, if you can tell me how to get to the syslog
[05:21] <thoreauputic> QMario: no, he's *making* a DVD, not decoding one
[05:22] <str8edge> sockpuppel: jackd needs to be run before starting any depent apps
[05:22] <QMario> Tennessee, that probably won't be what the US or Europe would say.
[05:22] <sockpuppe1> ohhh
[05:22] <nickrud> Dime, you normally you would put any odd modules that hotplug does not load automatically in /etc/modules
[05:22] <sockpuppe1> ill try it
[05:22] <EasterSunshine> anyone know a good ogg player that doesn't choke on filenames with korean unicode in it?
[05:22] <EasterSunshine> and will play files over smb://
[05:22] <QMario> Anyone can lie (not implying that you are a liar). ;)
[05:22] <str8edge> thoreauputic: hope you don't mind me jumping in like that!
[05:22] <QMario> !totem
[05:22] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, QMario
[05:22] <str8edge> ice9: start a root terminal
[05:23] <thoreauputic> str8edge: of course not - you seem to know more on the subject anyway :)
[05:23] <QMario> !media
[05:23] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, QMario
[05:23] <QMario> !multimedia
[05:23] <ubotu> multimedia is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[05:23] <EasterSunshine> i'll try totem
[05:23] <sockpuppe1> str8edge can I pm you?
[05:23] <str8edge> ice9: go for it.
[05:23] <QMario> Then go ahead. ;)
[05:23] <str8edge> oops
[05:23] <str8edge> sockpuppel: go for it.
[05:24] <Ice9> str8edge, what do I type in root term?
[05:24] <str8edge> ice9: once you have the root terminal open, type "tail -f /var/log/syslog" (no quotes) and then plug in the game pad.
[05:24] <QMario> !Botsnack.
[05:24] <ubotu> :)
[05:24] <gadis^^hotlink> hai
[05:24] <Concord_Dawn> hai everyone
[05:24] <Concord_Dawn> I'm trying to chroot a user into their home directory.
[05:25] <Concord_Dawn> but, whenever I log into that user, I get an 'Operation Not Permitted' error.
[05:25] <Concord_Dawn> I've put the chroot command in that users .bashrc.
[05:25] <Dime> ok well is there a file like autoexec.bat in windows for linux so it will load on boot up
[05:25] <Ice9> str8edge, where shall I tell you the output?
[05:25] <gadis^^hotlink> what are you looking for
[05:26] <EasterSunshine> dime: /etc/modules maybe
[05:26] <nickrud> Dime no, there is nothing like that (thankfully)
[05:26] <gadis^^hotlink> what you mean
[05:26] <Dime> well i dont feel like having to type in modprobe everytime i restart just to get my sound working
[05:27] <Dime> cause hotplug didnt find it
[05:27] <[[c0rrupt] ] > dime
[05:27] <thoreauputic> Dime: put the modules in /etc/modules
[05:27] <[[c0rrupt] ] > add a startup script
[05:27] <nickrud> Dime, then, try adding the module you modprobe to the end of /etc/modules, then reboot. see if it works
[05:27] <[[c0rrupt] ] > okooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook,
[05:27] <gadis^^hotlink> where are you now?
[05:27] <thoreauputic> [[c0rrupt] ] : no he doesn't need thatfor modules
[05:27] <Dime> the modules are in ubuntu already
[05:27] <nickrud> Dime, which modules?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Dime: /etc/modules <-----
[05:28] <Dime> modprobe snd-sbawe;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;
[05:28] <Dime> modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[05:28] <str8edge> ice9: pm me
[05:28] <Dime> those are the commands i need to have ran at start-up
[05:28] <abydos> what is the package to dpkg-reconfigure in order to modify network settings?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> Dime: you don't need the modprobe part - just put each module name on a separate line in /etc/modules
[05:29] <thoreauputic> Dime: to edit /etc/modules do for instance  sudo gedit /etc/modules
[05:30] <Concord_Dawn> Is there a way for me to chroot a user to their home directory everytime they login
[05:30] <Concord_Dawn> via a startup script or something?
[05:30] <Concord_Dawn> abydos, ifconfig?
[05:30] <Dime> ok so what would the modules be then
[05:31] <Dime> snd-sbawe
[05:31] <thoreauputic> Dime: yes, just the names you have done modprobe for
[05:32] <Wanderer___> Anyone here an experienced Ubuntu user?
[05:32] <Concord_Dawn> what you need help with?
[05:32] <EasterSunshine> we are gonna need something in the topic to address that question...
[05:32] <abydos> Concord_Dawn:  no, it's a meta-type package
[05:32] <Concord_Dawn> no, that's the command to modify network settings.
[05:32] <abydos> Concord_Dawn:  dpkg-reconfigure xxxx is the typical syntax for calling it, it's like a druid
[05:33] <nickrud> Dime, I would just add snd-sbawe to /etc/modules, and reboot. the other modules should be automatically added.
[05:33] <redtech> I have a little printer situation here.  I'm trying to isntall a 3rd printer and the only selection I have for Manufacture is Raw.  I used to have a ton of Manufactures, what happened?
[05:33] <Concord_Dawn> oh
[05:33] <nickrud> s/added/loaded
[05:33] <Dime> ok now i have one last question
[05:33] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: it's like the "any <insert subject> gurus here?" question... ;)
[05:33] <Wanderer___> Well, preferably someone who can tell me why it won't install.
[05:33] <Concord_Dawn> oh
[05:33] <Concord_Dawn> well
[05:33] <Dime> how would i go about getting terminal and gdesklets to start up on start up
[05:33] <BTJustice> Flonne:  I was awy.  SOrry.  Should I upgrade to ALSA b?
[05:33] <Concord_Dawn> what error do you get?
[05:33] <FR500> Dime: in Session properties
[05:34] <thoreauputic> !tell Wanderer___ about ask
[05:34] <Wanderer___> Where you talking to me, Concord?
[05:34] <nickrud> Dime, have a terminal open, log out, and select save this session, or some such. gdesklets, I'll never know, unless they get better
[05:34] <Concord_Dawn> yes Wanderer___
[05:34] <BTJustice> tristanmike: Thos were the directions I used to get it to work, but hte sound is scratchy and jumpy.
[05:34] <EasterSunshine> there are definetely gonna be ubuntu gurus in #ubuntu, not to mention that you don't need to ask if you can ask for help since it says official ubuntu help chan in the topic
[05:35] <abydos> ubotu:  tell me about network
[05:35] <EasterSunshine> we already know you are here for help...
[05:35] <Concord_Dawn> !tell abydos about network
[05:35] <abydos> he has no idea what network is
[05:35] <tristanmike> BTJustice, yeah, actually I saw that after, sorry
[05:35] <Concord_Dawn> indeed.
[05:35] <BTJustice> Might anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.
[05:36] <EasterSunshine> btjustice: i had scratchy...i turned 'tone' off in kmix, i never had jumpy
[05:36] <BTJustice> EasterSunshine: Where might I find the tone setting?
[05:37] <Wanderer___> Jesus, what did I do to piss ubotu off???
[05:37] <EasterSunshine> btjustice: umm try alsamixer, if it isn't there, then sry i don't know. kmix is the only mixer i've ever played with
[05:37] <zerboxx> Does anyone here use torrentflux?
[05:38] <EasterSunshine> Wanderer___: ubotu can't get pissed off...hes a few kilobytes of script
[05:38] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: ubotu is the channel bot - he has no emotions ;)
[05:38] <sockpuppe1> the php torrent client thinger
[05:38] <sockpuppe1> nah
[05:38] <Wanderer___> Oh.
[05:38] <Madpilot> Wanderer___: did you just get asked if you were on crack? ;)
[05:38] <zerboxx> sockpuppe1: it's pretty neat, I'm just trying to figure some stuff out that the forums, or readmes just don't tell me :)
[05:38] <nickrud> ubotu has a very limited range of insults :)
[05:38] <ubotu> nickrud: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:38] <EasterSunshine> in the amarok channel, there is a bot amarok, and everytime you mention amarok, he makes a snappy comment
[05:39] <Wanderer___> Huh? Why would I be asked that?
[05:39] <Madpilot> Wanderer___: it's one of ubotu's standard replies when it has no idea what you're talking about...
[05:39] <EasterSunshine> ssh...we are confusing Wanderer___.
[05:39] <GrYpHoN> Alright, got a question for you linux heads.  I got everything working with my wireless but it dosent look like its scanning for any wireless networks, like the radio is off.  The indicator light dosent come on either.  Its a hp pavillion zv5000 laptop by the way.  Any ideas?
[05:39] <zerboxx> EasterSunshine:  heh
[05:39] <glick> damn there is sooo much wisdom in fortune
[05:39] <EasterSunshine> ssh as in hush, not secure shell
[05:40] <zerboxx> EasterSunshine: Why not that too?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: if you ask ubotu something he doesn't know, he sometimes asks you if you are on crack :)
[05:40] <BTJustice> Might switches have anything to do with it?  I have AC97 In, SPDIF Out, SPDIF In, SPDIF Out, SRC Out, i2s In, i2s Mixer Out
[05:40] <glick> damn there is sooo much wisdom in fortune
[05:40] <glick> damn
[05:40] <glick> wrong window again
[05:40] <EasterSunshine> glick: i would rewrite fortune, every now and then it pops out a lame riddle. i never see riddles in fortune cookies
[05:40] <tristanmike> ubotu pie
[05:40] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tristanmike
[05:40] <metis> cam anyone help me setup my postfix with oscommerce?
[05:40] <tristanmike> haha, no crack for me
[05:41] <avadash> hey how do i mount a bin/cue/iso file to a virtual cd-rom?
[05:41] <glick> Death before dishonor.  But neither before breakfast.
[05:41] <glick> hehe
[05:41] <bz0b> hey people
[05:41] <bz0b> how do i run a .deb file?
[05:41] <thoreauputic> avadash: I've heard "bchunk" can handle bin/cue
[05:41] <zerboxx> !dpkg
[05:41] <ubotu> somebody said dpkg was the Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[05:42] <zerboxx> bz0b: that's for you :)
[05:42] <abydos> how do you reconfigure the NICs with dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:42] <linuxn00b> Hi eveyone :) I was wonding is it possible to change the apt sources in the hoary installer?
[05:42] <avadash> thoreauputic: thx man
[05:42] <GrYpHoN> Any ideas anyone?
[05:42] <nickrud> bz0b, you don't 'run' a deb, you install it. I'ts a package of software
[05:43] <bz0b> i see thanks guys
[05:43] <str8edge> abydos: use the network control panel under system | adminstration | networking
[05:43] <bz0b> now that i have skype installed, the possibilities are endless
[05:43] <Wanderer___> Anyway, the installer goes to the first screen, I hit enter and it spews it's standard compiler gibberish. All is well untill it says :booting kernel", or some such thing. It is then that my computer reboots. The cd then gets reread. And, I'm plopped right back at the screen that I began at. It's like some hellish cyber-version remake of Groundhog Day without the damn groundhog.
[05:43] <bz0b> now if I could only get ventrilo working on linux
[05:43] <bz0b> that would make my life a lot easier
[05:43] <root> guys .. have a little problem my etc/apt/sources.list is f..ed up
[05:43] <root> I can't apt-get install anything
[05:44] <bz0b> does it says something like httpu
[05:44] <PurpleMotion> Hai, fsckers!
[05:44] <nickrud> root, lhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 has been a canonical sources.list for a while
[05:44] <root> it always says that theare unmet dependencies ...
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: remove the CD for the reboot - it is just re-booting the install CD
[05:44] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, can you help me with a chrooting problem?
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: or did I misunderstand your description?
[05:45] <root> to make matter worse... it is always the same message.. the same unmet packages for any single package I want to install.. even if they are installed already
[05:45] <PurpleMotion> "
[05:45] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  i dont know, whats the problem
[05:45] <linuxn00b> so anyone know if it is possible to change the apt sources in the hoary installer?
[05:45] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: that would require actually reading what the installer says ;)
[05:45] <nickrud> root, how about posting that error message on paste.ubuntulinux.org
[05:45] <bz0b> bz0b@bz0b:~$ skype
[05:45] <bz0b> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:46] <bz0b> can someone tell me whaT that means?
[05:46] <str8edge> linuxn00b: if you do an expert install you can. I don't recomend it.
[05:46] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, I want to chroot a user into their home directory everytime they login.
[05:46] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  fsckin frightening, eh
[05:46] <Wanderer___> Which time? when I first stick it in the drive, reboot, then do the enter thing? Or do you mean when it reboots the second time?
[05:46] <bz0b> do i need to apt get something?
[05:46] <Concord_Dawn> it's an SSH only account.
[05:46] <Concord_Dawn> so whenever they start bash
[05:46] <Concord_Dawn> so I put /usr/sbin/chroot ~/ in their .bash
[05:46] <Concord_Dawn> .bashrc*
[05:46] <PurpleMotion> so you want them to see their home directory as root?
[05:46] <linuxn00b> str8edge, im in the expert install now but I don't know see where I can change it.
[05:46] <EasterSunshine> probably apt-get install libqt-mt
[05:46] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: yeah - like no-one notices the stuff about root/sudo in the installer...
[05:46] <Concord_Dawn> but I get a "You ain't root biatch" error.
[05:47] <bz0b> can someone please tell me what this means?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: the installer tells you when to remove the CD
[05:47] <bz0b> expert install now but I don't know see where I can change it.
[05:47] <bz0b> EasterSunshine probably apt-get install libqt-mt
[05:47] <bz0b> thoreauputic PurpleMotion: yeah - like no-one notices the stuff about root/sudo in the installer...
[05:47] <bz0b> Concord_Dawn but I get a "You ain't root biatch" error.
[05:47] <bz0b> * omaru (n=omaru@200.79.201.159.cableonline.com.mx) has joined #ubuntu
[05:47] <bz0b> bz0b can someone please tell me what this means?
[05:47] <bz0b> * omaru has quit (Client Quit)
[05:47] <bz0b> thoreauputic Wanderer___: the installer tells you when to remove the CD
[05:47] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  you want them to not be able to access beyond their /home dir right
[05:47] <bz0b> * xsadikx (n=obsessio@bl5-211-171.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #ubuntu
[05:47] <bz0b> woopsie
[05:47] <bz0b> sorry
[05:47] <nickrud> bz0b, you can usually track down errors like that with non-ubuntu software by searching for the missing file on packages.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> pretty much, unless I symlink
[05:47] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  jailshell
[05:47] <metis> can someone help with postfix
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> =\
[05:47] <PurpleMotion> !jailshell
[05:47] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:47] <Concord_Dawn> ?
[05:47] <Wanderer___> No, it doesn't.
[05:47] <PurpleMotion> hrmm
[05:48] <PurpleMotion> ill find it for you
[05:48] <bz0b> nickrud, thanks
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> configure your irc clients ppl...to warn you about pasting multiple lines or something
[05:48] <Concord_Dawn> thanks PurpleMotion
[05:48] <Concord_Dawn> EasterSunshine, mIRC does that after pasting about 5 lines.
[05:48] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, he can't even get into the installer
[05:48] <root> that address does not work
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: yes, it does - we've all done the install, you know - you'll need to be more precise i think
[05:48] <root> paste.ubuntulinux.org
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> metis: there is #postfix, but they look idle...
[05:49] <xsadikx> how can i change the default gnome menu icon? i downloaded a custom ubuntu icon
[05:49] <PurpleMotion> jailer - Builds and maintains chrooted environments
[05:49] <PurpleMotion> jailtool - Tool to build chroot-jails for daemons
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> Concord_Dawn: you are using mirc?
[05:49] <Concord_Dawn> no.
[05:49] <nickrud> root, sorry, paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: are you saying the installer aborts before it even starts?
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> Concord_Dawn: if so, it better be on wine
[05:49] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, yeah, I've been trying to help to no avail
[05:49] <Concord_Dawn> lol, indeed
[05:49] <PurpleMotion> install jailer and jailtool
[05:49] <Wanderer___> It says nothing to me. I guess I was unclear. It gets no farther than "Booting Kernel" before it reboots ad infintium.
[05:49] <Concord_Dawn> ok
[05:50] <metis> how do u get to these other rooms easter? where do i find these?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: is the disk OK? Have you checked the md5sum?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: bad burn? mybe?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> *maybe
[05:50] <xsadikx> How do I change the default gnome menu icon?
[05:50] <Wanderer___> What is md5sum?
 That's the first time I've used chmod 4050
[05:50] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, it's apparently an offical one he got from a friedn
[05:50] <tristanmike> *friend
[05:50] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: ah OK
[05:50] <EasterSunshine> metis: type "/j #postfix" to enter the #ostifx channel, which had 106 nicks when i visited, so i dunno how easily you will get reponse
[05:51] <Concord_Dawn> Wanderer___, it's a string (hash) that represents all of the data on a disc or in a file.
[05:51] <EasterSunshine> metis: sry thats "/j #postfix"
[05:51] <EasterSunshine> argh my client wont let me send it
[05:51] <Wanderer___> How to check it?
[05:51] <bz0b> nickrud, so would i most likely be downloading the libqt3-mt-dev?
[05:51] <Concord_Dawn> search md5 in the repos.
[05:51] <PurpleMotion> EasterSunshine:  there are 431 people in here, and everybody gets help if someones around who knows the answer
[05:51] <root> can anyone check out my post http:/paste.ubuntulinux.org/1414
[05:51] <nickrud> bz0b, probably not the dev, that's if you want to compile against libqt3-mt, but you are close :)
[05:52] <EasterSunshine> purplemoon: i know but i thought they would be more familiar with postfix in #postfix
[05:52] <thoreauputic> root: you do know that runing IRC as root is a Bad Thing, don't you?
[05:52] <tristanmike> Concord_Dawn, if he can't get it installed, how can he get it in the repos?
[05:52] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  really? what can you do to him?
[05:52] <Concord_Dawn> doh
[05:52] <Concord_Dawn> true.
[05:52] <Concord_Dawn> well
[05:52] <Concord_Dawn> he could use the livecd.
[05:52] <Concord_Dawn> but
[05:53] <Concord_Dawn> search MD5 for Windows in google
[05:53] <Wanderer___> What exactly am I looking for?
[05:53] <root> .. I didn't realize I was
[05:53] <Concord_Dawn> and Md5 hashing tool for Windows.
[05:53] <root> hold on a sec
[05:53] <root> exit
[05:53] <Concord_Dawn> or whatever your current OS is.
[05:53] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: I can't - but if his client has any vulnerabilities he's wide open to them
[05:53] <xsadikx> can you guys point me to some tutorial on how to mount ntfs partitions under ubuntu?
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> heh
[05:53] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, I installed those, now what?
[05:53] <hardw1re> is he using the root account?
[05:53] <wjesusaxl> I'm back.. I used to be root
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> chances are about as good as someone catching a copy of your credit card number if you send it unencrypted
[05:53] <EasterSunshine> that reminds me, what package does the command smbmount come in?
[05:53] <Wanderer___> I can get to a text file with the name md5sum.txt. Is that it?
[05:54] <nickrud> oh, that was you :)
[05:54] <Madpilot> !ntfs
[05:54] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[05:54] <Madpilot> xsadikx: see ubotu above ^^^
[05:54] <Concord_Dawn> Wanderer___, yeah, but you need to check that against the md5 hash generated from the file you have on your HDD
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> EasterSunshine:  watch ubotu
[05:54] <Concord_Dawn> so
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> !find smbmount
[05:54] <Wanderer___> HDD?
[05:54] <xsadikx> cool
[05:54] <nickrud> wjesusaxl, do as it says, sudo apt-get install -f
[05:54] <Concord_Dawn> hard disk drive.
[05:54] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: *shrug*  in some channels being root is an automatic kick
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  yeah i know, i always thought thatw as quite gay
[05:55] <Concord_Dawn> so
[05:55] <Concord_Dawn> search Md5 for Windows in Google.
[05:55] <wjesusaxl> nickrud: I tried that once ... and it wiped clean all my packages
[05:55] <Concord_Dawn> and download an md5 hashing tool.
[05:55] <PurpleMotion> Search of 'smbmount' (5 shown; 41 total): (/usr/bin/smbmount) in otherosfs/smbfs ;; (/usr/share/samba/swat/help/smbmount.8.html) in universe/net/swat ;; (/usr/share/doc/samba-doc/htmldocs/smbmount.8.html) in doc/samba-doc ;; (/usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/konq_smbmounterplugin.mo) in kde/kde-i18n-tr ;; (/usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES/konq_smbmounterplugin.mo) in kde/kde-i18n-ja.
[05:55] <EasterSunshine> PurpleMotion: i'm watching...
[05:55] <nickrud> wjesusaxl, ?
[05:55] <vitriol> the ubuntu forums don't work too well in lynx :(
[05:55] <PurpleMotion> it didnt do it in the channel
[05:55] <nickrud> wiped clean? I've been saved at every turn by that command :)
[05:55] <wjesusaxl> every single package I insalled was gone
[05:55] <tristanmike> Concord_Dawn, it's an offical cd, not a burned one
[05:56] <PurpleMotion> whats unofficial about a burned cd?
[05:56] <PurpleMotion> im pretty sure it has the same license as a stamped one
[05:56] <Concord_Dawn> yeah
[05:56] <Concord_Dawn> it does.
[05:56] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Thanks for your help yesterday -- ended up getting my sound going... :D
[05:56] <PurpleMotion> and byte for byte the same data
[05:56] <PurpleMotion> Chiacomo:  anytime :)
[05:56] <EasterSunshine> PurpleMotion: that only gives the paths to smbmnt, not the package
[05:56] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: do "!+find smbmount" or whatever - with the + sign - to force ubotu to post the the channel
[05:56] <PurpleMotion> EasterSunshine:  it does holdon
[05:56] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, what do I do now with jailer?
[05:56] <wjesusaxl> ok i'm on that
[05:57] <vitriol> anybody used colony 3?
[05:57] <nickrud> wjesusaxl, the only comment I have, is you have some weird sources in you list. I'm pretty conservative about that
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  check the documentation, i guess.. i dont use it so im afraid i wont be much help.. once you get it working thought, you might wish to write a wiki article on it
[05:57] <wjesusaxl> it seems to be some packages that go stuck
[05:57] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: Anytime? really? Sound is working but Audacity can't seem to handle it...
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> dunno anything about audacity, what6 is it?
[05:58] <PurpleMotion> EasterSunshine:  (/usr/bin/smbmount) in otherosfs/smbfs <-- it's in package smbfs
[05:58] <thoreauputic> Chiacomo: audacity has problems with esd - try "killall esd" and run it again
[05:58] <wjesusaxl> nickrud: I'm kind a newbie ... not totally
[05:58] <nickrud> wjesusaxl, how about posting your /etc/apt/sources.list on paste
[05:58] <FR500> hello
[05:58] <Chiacomo> PurpleMotion: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ --
[05:58] <Chiacomo> thoreauputic: Okey dokey... don't restart esd?
[05:58] <wjesusaxl> I found one on the web and replace I had..
[05:59] <FR500> what is the page for backports?
[05:59] <wjesusaxl> replace what I once had
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> oh i have that
[05:59] <wjesusaxl> now it's working
[05:59] <avadash> how do i mount a iso image?
[05:59] <thoreauputic> Chiacomo: try it without esd and see
[05:59] <PurpleMotion> dunno mine worked out of the box
[05:59] <avadash> ????
[05:59] <wjesusaxl> can't believe it
[06:00] <Wanderer___> No, you guys missunderstood. My friend had extra copies of the official cds he order (ie he order multiple official cds). That's what I'm using  (or trying to use, depending on how you look at it) right know. Oh, I found Md5 Checksum utility for Win32. Is that what I'm looking for in the google?
[06:00] <EasterSunshine> PurpleMotion: ah, i thought smbfs was referring to the name of the filesystem
[06:00] <nickrud> wjesusaxl, I can, I've been using apt for a long time.
[06:00] <PurpleMotion> avadash:  mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso.iso /mnt/mount_point
[06:00] <PurpleMotion> EasterSunshine:  nope,t hats the package
[06:00] <thoreauputic> avadash: sudo modprobe loop ; mount -o loop /mnt/point file.iso ; cd /mnt/point
[06:00] <ian> hello ppl..
[06:00] <wjesusaxl> so I have
[06:00] <wjesusaxl> but I didn't trust apt-get install -f
[06:00] <nickrud> off topic, who aptly named apt, anyway :)
[06:00] <PurpleMotion> why in gods name are you probing for loop?
[06:01] <ian> does ubuntu..automatically..detect new hardware..installed?
[06:01] <thoreauputic> oops PurpleMotion is right, ignore me avadash
[06:01] <PurpleMotion> what dist doesnt install a loop device?
[06:01] <wjesusaxl> because it took down all my packages
[06:01] <BTJustice> Might anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307 was how I got the card working in the first place.
[06:01] <Chiacomo> thoreauputic: It's working now, but sounds slow and like I'm in a barrel when I try to record... :P
[06:01] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: the module wsn't auto loaded here.. YMMV
[06:01] <PurpleMotion> only on linux can sucha fine card sound like total arse
[06:01] <Wanderer___> Guys? Is that what I'm looking for?
[06:01] <ian> does ubuntu..automatically..detect new hardware..installed?
[06:01] <ian> :)
[06:02] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  oh it doesnt here either, till somethign calls the loop device then it automagically loads
[06:02] <PurpleMotion> unloads when you're done too
[06:02] <Concord_Dawn> ian: yes
[06:02] <Concord_Dawn> afaik.
[06:02] <Wanderer___> Hello?
[06:02] <PurpleMotion> how do i change _my_ text in x-chat?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: hmm - OK - last time I did it was on warty, and I had to modprobe it for some weird reason
[06:03] <ian> Concord_Dawn: thanks..
[06:03] <Concord_Dawn> PurpleMotion, can't.
[06:03] <nickrud> Wanderer___, you
[06:03] <PurpleMotion> bullshit
[06:03] <FR500> ian: yes, but not all the hw works out of the box
[06:03] <PurpleMotion> i dont believe that
[06:03] <FR500> ian: just like windoze
[06:03] <nickrud> 're using a pressed cd from shipit.ubuntu.com?
[06:03] <tristanmike> Wanderer___, no, you would only need that if you downloaded your copy, officals shouldn't need a md5 checksum
[06:03] <wjesusaxl> nickrud: what happens when you got into iRC as you are root
[06:03] <helloyo> i'm having some difficulty with breezy, my network doesn't work due to a wrong driver i think, how do i configure this?
[06:03] <ian> FR500: ok thanks..ill try....i will get back if its does not work..:D
[06:03] <nickrud> wjesusaxl, have no idea, I have'nt run as root for anything for a =very= long time
[06:04] <FR500> ian: what are you trying to install
[06:04] <wjesusaxl> nickrud: someone just told me it was bad
[06:04] <nickrud> wjesusaxl, listen to them. root is for system admin, nothing else. Life occurs as a user.
[06:04] <Wanderer___> Yet an md5 checksum this pressed cd has. I'm looking at the file in all its' wierd hexadecimal glory even as we speak (type?).
[06:04] <Webby`> Hi, I'm having mouse trouble. My mouse won't scroll. Any advice on how to get this to work?
[06:05] <BTJustice> Might anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307 was how I got the card working in the first place.
[06:05] <wjesusaxl> I did know that
[06:05] <wjesusaxl> but I thought it could be risky
[06:05] <vitriol> going on irc as root as like browsing with internet explorer in windows as administrator
[06:05] <vitriol> .....oh wait
[06:05] <vitriol> :p
[06:05] <Madpilot> vitriol: hah!
[06:05] <BTJustice> lol
[06:05] <Wanderer___> Hello? Guys?
[06:06] <judax> :)
[06:06] <nickrud> I never run windows, so I'll take your word :)
[06:06] <tristanmike> Wanderer___, what is you wanted to know?
[06:06] <Wanderer___> I just replied that this pressed cd has an md5sum file.
[06:07] <tristanmike> Wanderer___, yes it will have one, the thing is that the download ones may have a corrupt one, does that make sense?
[06:07] <tristanmike> Wanderer___, in downloading it, it may get corrupted
[06:07] <Wanderer___> hmmm. Yes. So what am I doing wrong?
[06:08] <tristanmike> someone help this guy get his Linux installed
[06:08] <nickrud> Wanderer___, this pressed cd, you boot it, what happens? (sorry, I've been in and out on the channel)
[06:09] <PurpleMotion> Concord_Dawn:  go to Settings -> Advanced -> Text Events... ->second option fromt he bottom. chamge C30 to whatever other color you want your text to be
[06:09] <Wanderer___>  the installer goes to the first screen, I hit enter and it spews it's standard compiler gibberish. All is well untill it says :booting kernel", or some such thing. It is then that my computer reboots. The cd then gets reread. And, I'm plopped right back at the screen that I began at. It's like some hellish cyber-version remake of Groundhog Day without the damn groundhog. [this is a paste,...
[06:09] <Wanderer___> ...for conveniency}
[06:09] <nickrud> ah, I did see that :)
[06:11] <nickrud> Wanderer___, so, you put the cd in the tray, reboot the computer, hit enter on the first prompt, and, instead of installing ubuntu, the computer reboots?
[06:11] <PurpleMotion> man i can change everythign here
[06:11] <tristanmike> cyber-groundhog day without the damn groundhog, that's funny
[06:12] <Concord_Dawn> well
[06:12] <Concord_Dawn> night
[06:13] <tristanmike> nickrud, that's what's happening to him
[06:13] <judax> :)
[06:13] <tristanmike> nickrud, over and over, if he hit's enter, reboot
[06:13] <pjw> Concord_Dawn: i have a beautiful morning :)
[06:13] <nickrud> huh, and it's a pressed shipit.ubuntu.com disk. Some wierd hardware, I think, which I will duck.
[06:14] <nickrud> and pass to bob or crimson or someone like that :)
[06:14] <PurpleMotion> hrmm
[06:14] <PurpleMotion> i broked xchat
[06:14] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: wow - how did you manage that ? *g*
[06:14] <PurpleMotion> messin with the text events :D
[06:14] <PurpleMotion> but i fixed it
[06:15] <nickrud> Wanderer___, sorry, that is just more than I can help with.
[06:15] <tristanmike> nickrud, what if the same thing is happening but it quits at the line... "PS/2 mouse device common for all mice"
[06:15] <nickrud> tristanmike, again, I'll pass that to the people who actually know the installer. I try to stay within my limits.
[06:17] <tristanmike> nickrud, cool
[06:17] <EasterSunshine> anyone here knowledgable about pdf file specification can tell me if it stores a creation time/date?
[06:18] <c0rrupt> Invalid memory block address.
[06:19] <nickrud> EasterSunshine, not really knowledgeable, but, looking at a pdf I created, there's no date in it.
[06:20] <ian> hello ppl..
[06:20] <Wanderer___> So? What do I do? I think my efforts at attempting an install have been very persistent. Does it end in failure?
[06:20] <nickrud> Wanderer___, no, drop in and out of this list, and ask again. Better yet, send a question to the ubuntu-users mailling list.
[06:21] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: just a stab in the dark - I think you can switch to tty4 to see error output (alt-F4)
[06:21] <EasterSunshine> nickrud: what program did you use to make it?
[06:21] <thoreauputic> might be tty3... not sure
[06:21] <l0s3rk1d> hi how can i change my desktop to kde?
[06:21] <EasterSunshine> nickrud: i am particulaly interested in those exported by adobe acrobat
[06:21] <PurpleMotion> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <l0s3rk1d> thanks
[06:22] <BTJustice> Might anyone be able to help me fix a problem with my SB Live! 24 bit sound card?  I have sound but it is real scratchy and jumpy.  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307 was how I got the card working in the first place.
[06:22] <thoreauputic> l0s3rk1d: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <nickrud> EasterSunshine, one I looked at was exported by openoffice. adobe, I don't know.
[06:22] <l0s3rk1d> where can i get the list of apt-gets?
[06:22] <Wanderer___> OK. I will try, try again.
[06:22] <EasterSunshine> nickrud: thx anyway
[06:23] <Wanderer___> BTW, what does it mean when a file has the extension "gz"?
[06:23] <mike1980> Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that CD-ROM was not in the drive
[06:24] <mike1980> can anyone help me
[06:24] <thoreauputic> Wanderer___: means it was compressed with "gzio" ( GNU compression tool)
[06:25] <PurpleMotion> where int he hell is the highlight option?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> oops a/gzio/gzip
[06:25] <PurpleMotion> to set the color for highlighting
[06:25] <nickrud> Wanderer___, it's a type of compression, you would use gunzip to uncompress it
[06:25] <helloyo> how do i reconfigure my network?
[06:25] <Wanderer___> OK.. What's it doing on the Install cd?
[06:26] <nickrud> Wanderer___, making all the stuff on it smaller, so more will fit
[06:26] <Ice9> how come my cds aren't auto mounting?
[06:26] <Wanderer___> ok. Thanks to everyone that helped me!
[06:27] <FR500> helloyo: System->administration->networking
[06:28] <mike1980> hi guys i am gettin error "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This probably means that CD-ROM was not in the drive" any ideas how to fix this?
[06:28] <helloyo> FR500, can you do it in the shell? i have installed breezy, but the network is stuffed, so installation doesn't complete
[06:29] <FR500> helloyo: do you use dhcp?
[06:29] <helloyo> FR500, yep
[06:29] <FR500> helloyo: sudo dhclient interface_name
[06:29] <wjesusaxl> do you know what happens.. when I tried to compile a package and it tells me... gcc can create executable files
[06:29] <GrYpHoN> Any wireless Guru's here by chance?
[06:29] <wjesusaxl> ????
[06:30] <FR500> GrYpHoN: no guru just ask
[06:30] <GrYpHoN> Ok, here goes
[06:30] <thoreauputic> wjesusaxl: yes - install the build-essential package
[06:30] <wjesusaxl> thoreaputic: and what does that mean?
[06:30] <Ice9> how come my cds aren't auto mounting?
[06:30] <judax> :)
[06:31] <c0rrupt> bz0b,
[06:31] <c0rrupt> wherd u go
[06:31] <thoreauputic> wjesusaxl: build-essential isa package that supplies what you need for basic compiling
[06:31] <thoreauputic> wjesusaxl:  make, gcc , g++ etc
[06:32] <PurpleMotion> hrmm
[06:32] <FR500> helloyo: did it work?
[06:32] <redtech> I have a little printer situation here.  I'm trying to install another printer and the only selection I have for manufacturer is Raw.  I used to have a ton of manufactures, what happened?
[06:32] <GrYpHoN> Can't get my wireless to work.  All settings appear good, Radio is on, driver is loaded with ndiswrapper.  Had same issue with Linspaire 5.0.  Wireless works fine in Windows.
[06:32] <wjesusaxl> it happens when make ./configure
[06:32] <wjesusaxl> I mean just ./configure
[06:32] <FR500> GrYpHoN: what card?
[06:32] <GrYpHoN> Broadcomm 4036.  Onboard on teh HP pavilion zv5000
[06:32] <FR500> Broadcom
[06:32] <mike1980> is it possible to do a net install with ubuntu?
[06:33] <FR500> i think you gotta recompile kernel
[06:33] <GrYpHoN> I see.  Ok Im extremly new to linux.  What is involved in that
[06:33] <FR500> mike1980: there is a PXE boot image that allows you to do that, i don't know otherwise
[06:33] <FR500> GrYpHoN: i think there is a guide on the wiki
[06:33] <mike1980> <FR500: ok thanks
[06:34] <GrYpHoN> Hummmm will check
[06:34] <FR500> mike1980: same as GrYpHoN
[06:34] <ArYO> I have some problem with apt-get update in ubuntu
[06:35] <Linuxx> who speak Spanish?
[06:35] <ArYO> gzip:stdin :stdin not in gzip format
[06:35] <FR500> Linuxx: yo
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Linuxx:  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:36] <zovirl> I'm having problems using dia's command-line export.  It works fine from the GUI, but from the command line (-e option) it prints a bunch of error messages and uses weird random colors
[06:37] <zovirl> any ideas why?
[06:37] <Ice9> when I try to play a dvd with xine, it says "there is no input plugin available to handle "dvd:/" how can I solve this
[06:38] <letschatt> where's apokry?
[06:38] <letschatt> i was here a few hours ago desperately trying to get my wireless card working
[06:39] <letschatt> i got that mofo up. but had to boot back into windows because ubuntu slows my computer down
[06:39] <letschatt> i know i am running a lot of garbage in the background. which stuff is safe to remove
[06:39] <helloyo> FR500, sorry, i think the problem is its using 8139cp instead of 8139too
[06:39] <FR500> helloyo: lol, what is that
[06:40] <helloyo> i think the ethernet driver
[06:40] <FR500> and dhcp wont work?
[06:40] <helloyo> nope, network doesn't work at all
[06:40] <PurpleMotion> thats pissin me off
[06:41] <PurpleMotion> xchat crashes every time i update the text events
[06:41] <PurpleMotion> they save
[06:41] <PurpleMotion> bvut it crashes
[06:41] <FR500> helloyo: no clue, i'm just an average user
[06:43] <Ice9> when I try to play a dvd with xine, it says "there is no input plugin available to handle "dvd:/" how can I solve this
[06:44] <PurpleMotion> install libdvdcss2
[06:44] <PurpleMotion> !restricted
[06:44] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:45] <PurpleMotion> ed
[06:46] <Madpilot> is there anything in Ubuntu that can read .eps files - Encapsulated PostScript vector image files?
[06:46] <splatg> ggv
[06:46] <splatg> I think that works with eps
[06:46] <jtan325> evince?
[06:46] <nickrud> most anything that reads postscript, i think
[06:46] <PurpleMotion> this is much better now
[06:47] <PurpleMotion> I just need to figure out how to change everyone else's channel text
[06:47] <PurpleMotion> and add >>'s
[06:47] <Ice9> Purplemotion, libdvdcss2 was already installed
[06:47] <reka> Madpilot: gnome-gv is installed by default
[06:47] <PurpleMotion> Ice9:  I dunno then,t hat was just an educated guess
[06:47] <vitriol> what?! don't you dare change my channel text.....you insensitive clod!
[06:48] <PurpleMotion> vitriol:  more than anything i want to add ">>" between your nick and your text
[06:48] <Madpilot> reka: (and everyone else) thanks, I'll check ghostview out
[06:48] <vitriol> xchat?
[06:48] <PurpleMotion> uh huh
[06:48] <vitriol> sorry i don't use xchat or i'd help...
[06:49] <vitriol>  00:48:54 up 180 days, 14:25,  5 users,  load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.07
[06:49] <vitriol> :)
[06:49] <nickrud> console jockies :)
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> wow
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> 6 months old today
[06:49] <PurpleMotion> you must be proud
[06:49] <GrYpHoN> I can't find anything that I can understand on recompiling my kernel to allow my wireless work.  Anyone got a reference doc for me?  Having a hard time finding anything in the Wiki
[06:49] <Madpilot> that's a lot of uptime - cool
[06:49] <vitriol> a friend let's me use his server
[06:49] <vitriol> not my boxen
[06:50] <PurpleMotion> oh, heh
[06:50] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: what card is it?
[06:51] <GrYpHoN> Broadcom 4306 (rev.3)
[06:51] <vitriol> oohh
[06:51] <pirving> hrllo
[06:51] <vitriol> you need ndiswrapper
[06:51] <pirving> hello
[06:51] <pirving> My apt-get is timming out on a poopy server.  Should I just wait for it to finish or ctrl -c
[06:51] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: do !ndiswrapper and the bot will tell you where to look
[06:51] <dubnium> okay.. so I installed realplayer from the .bin on the website but it will not execute
[06:51] <vitriol> !tell GrYpHoN ndiswrapper
[06:52] <vitriol> bah
[06:52] <vitriol> that didn't work
[06:52] <GrYpHoN> lol
[06:52] <vitriol> well you know how to do it ;)
[06:52] <Madpilot> vitriol: "ubotu tell <nick> about <thing>"
[06:52] <reka> pirving: you using mirrors?
[06:52] <vitriol> yeah there we go
[06:52] <GrYpHoN> I got the driver loaded with ndiswrapper
[06:52] <GrYpHoN> already
[06:52] <kentaur> !ndiswrapper
[06:52] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:52] <vitriol> oh :p
[06:52] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: so whats the problem?
[06:53] <splatg> dubnium: so all the files got installed?
[06:53] <dubnium> they're all in there
[06:53] <GrYpHoN> Dosent connect to my wireless.  Works under windows.  Had same issue with Linspire.
[06:53] <dubnium> no error messages
[06:53] <pirving> I'm using a bad mirror
[06:53] <pirving> I guess
[06:53] <pirving> Connection timeout
[06:53] <pirving> ftp2.ciai.org
[06:53] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: what does dmesg say
[06:53] <pirving> or something like that
[06:54] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: immediately after you modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:54] <pirving> ftp2.caliu.net
[06:54] <splatg> mmm, in my experience realplayer does do that, you try to launch it and it doesn't do anything and then eventually appears out of nowhere
[06:54] <vitriol> ?
[06:54] <pirving> thats it
[06:54] <Ice9> how come my cd drives aren't auto mounting?
[06:54] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[06:54] <GrYpHoN> Thats the thing.  I modeprobe and no message comes up.  (Noob here :()
[06:54] <vitriol> hmmm
[06:54] <splatg> dubnium: can you see its process in the system monitor
[06:54] <hardw1re> does anyone know how to install the nforce1/2/3 drivers for the x86_64 system?
[06:54] <vitriol> sounds like you have the wrong driver
[06:54] <reka> pirving: well, i don't know of that site/repo...but it's probably it
[06:55] <pirving> Should I just wait?
[06:55] <Linux_Galore> hardw1re: you need the kernel sources
[06:55] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: what .inf file are you using?
[06:55] <Linux_Galore> hardw1re: package
[06:55] <hardw1re> yeah i just apt-get them
[06:55] <hardw1re> but it still says i need them :|
[06:55] <Linux_Galore> hardw1re: yep
[06:55] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: you can identify it with ndiswrapper -l
[06:55] <reka> pirving: what are you trying to get anyway?
[06:55] <GrYpHoN> bcwl5a.inf I believe
[06:55] <dubnium> splatg, the .bin is in there "sleeping"
[06:55] <hardw1re> but i can specify the path, but i dont know where that is
[06:56] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: ok it sounds like you have the wrong driver
[06:56] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: i'm 99% sure your card is supported
[06:56] <pirving> well, I'm running a ubuntusetup.sh
[06:56] <pirving> script
[06:56] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: are you using a 64 bit environment by chance?
[06:56] <GrYpHoN> Think?   Hummm.  Alright Ill try to load a different one.  128-bit
[06:56] <pirving> it sucks, but its supposed to get everything setup for me after a fresh install instead of having to go find it all by myself
[06:56] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64] 
[06:57] <Linux_Galore> hardw1re: apt will list all the files and paths for any package if you ask it to
[06:57] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: another one to try would be bcmwl5.inf
[06:57] <Ice9> how come my cd drives aren't auto mounting?
[06:57] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: if you do a google search for it, you can find it pretty easily
[06:57] <vitriol> (the driver file)
[06:57] <vitriol> i would give you a url for it if i were in X :)
[06:57] <hardw1re> Unpacking linux-source-2.6.10 (from .../linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34.4_all.deb) <-- that means the source is now on my system right?
[06:57] <splatg> dubnium: I'll try installing it and see if it works for me
[06:57] <reka> pirving: dunno, just wait i guess
[06:57] <GrYpHoN> Im using bcmwl5a.inf now but will try that one.  Thanks
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> hardw1re: yep
[06:58] <dubnium> i duno if theres a way to remove it... you sure?
[06:58] <splatg> yeah
[06:58] <vitriol> GrYpHoN: you'll know when you have the right one because when you type 'dmesg' it'll tell you stuff about your wireless card
[06:58] <hardw1re> hmmm
[06:59] <vitriol> hardw1re: yes that means you have the linux kernel source....
[06:59] <hardw1re> Linux_Galore: whats the apt command to view where the source was install to?
[06:59] <vitriol> hardw1re: ls /usr/src (it's in there)
[06:59] <hardw1re> cheers vitriol
[07:00] <Ice9> how come my cd drives aren't auto mounting?
[07:00] <hardw1re> do i need to untar it?
[07:00] <splatg> dubnium: ok I installed it into a folder on my desktop and it worked
[07:00] <vitriol> hardw1re: is it a tar archive?
[07:01] <splatg> have you tried killing the process and starting it again
[07:01] <dubnium> yup
[07:01] <vitriol> hardw1re: in other words ...does it end in .bz2?
[07:01] <dubnium> you install it as user or root?
[07:01] <hardw1re> .tar.bz2
[07:01] <hardw1re> yup
[07:01] <vitriol> hardw1re: ok, to extract that file you need to do tar -jxf <filename>
[07:02] <splatg> just as a regualar user, try what I did then
[07:02] <vitriol> hardw1re: why do you need the kernel source?
[07:02] <hardw1re> to install the nforce3 drivers
[07:02] <vitriol> oohh
[07:02] <vitriol> is this a third party driver or is it in the kernel?
[07:02] <Ice9> how come my cd drives aren't auto mounting?
[07:02] <splatg> it also looks like it just installs itself into the one "realplayer" folder so you should be able to remove it
[07:03] <hardw1re> this is nvidia's driver, seeing as they make the nforce chipset :P
[07:03] <vitriol> hardw1re: i don't know if you need the kernel source
[07:03] <vitriol> hardw1re: there is a good chance you only need the kernel headers
[07:03] <hardw1re> nah the installer is asking for the kernel source
[07:03] <hardw1re> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel.
[07:04] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[07:04] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:04] <dubnium> splatg, did you chmod the installer or just go for it?
[07:04] <vitriol> hardw1re: ah well sucks to be you :)
[07:04] <splatg> chmod +x first
[07:04] <c0rrupt> nnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiopopoooilk;
[07:04] <splatg> then just ran it from a terminal
[07:04] <vitriol> ahh well there you go hardw1re thanks thoreauputic
[07:04] <killfill> could anyone show me a tipical output of "iwlist eth0 scan" please?
[07:04] <hardw1re> thats for the graphics itself isnt it...?
[07:05] <hardw1re> not for the chipset O_o ?
[07:05] <Furic> I need to add the "noapic" kernel option to boot to fix motherboard issues, but whenever i run update-grub or sometimes just randomly /boot/grub/menu.lst gets changed to not have my boot option, how do i get around this?
[07:05] <Furic> Do i put it on the # kopt line?
[07:08] <PurpleMotion> there we go
[07:08] <PurpleMotion> we got some convention up in this biotch now
[07:08] <vitriol> *sigh*
[07:08] <vitriol> upgrading from hoary to breezy is borken...
[07:08] <vitriol> :(
[07:08] <aeruder> how so?
[07:08] <PurpleMotion> you all have >> after your nicks and before your messages
[07:08] <MrPockets> if i have a pic i want as a splash screen, where do i put it?
[07:08] <vitriol> aeruder: can't find my root fs when booting
[07:09] <aeruder> i have a hard time believing that is a apt-get upgrade issue
[07:09] <vitriol> aeruder: please convince me otherwise :)
[07:10] <PurpleMotion> boy thats annoying
[07:10] <vitriol> aeruder: i dare you to reboot
[07:10] <vitriol> :p
[07:10] <vitriol> i tried running the new kernel it installed
[07:10] <vitriol> 2.6.12
[07:10] <vitriol> and it says it can't find my root fs
[07:10] <vitriol> and thats from a server install of hoary
[07:10] <aeruder> vitriol: yea, that's probably a bug in the new kernel then
[07:10] <vitriol> to apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy
[07:11] <aeruder> i compile my own kernels, so i doubt i'll have the problem ;)
[07:11] <vitriol> damn you
[07:11] <vitriol> :p
[07:11] <fabbione> vitriol: the problem is initramfs
[07:11] <fabbione> it's not a kernel issue
[07:11] <vitriol> fabbione: is there a fix for it?
[07:11] <brenner> !tell MrPockets about splashscreen
[07:11] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell me about splashscreen
[07:11] <fabbione> probably.. it depends from your setup.. file a bug on initramfs explaining all your hw
[07:11] <syncron> hi
[07:12] <PurpleMotion> cool
[07:12] <fabbione> and where root is
[07:12] <vitriol> fabbione: do you think i'd have the same problem if i used the colony 3 cd?
[07:12] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, than you
[07:12] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:12] <PurpleMotion> err thank you
[07:12] <fabbione> vitriol: probably the fix is past colony 3
[07:12] <vitriol> :(
[07:12] <fabbione> so either you dist-upgrade from the net
[07:12] <vitriol> i don't know a think about initrd's
[07:13] <aeruder> vitriol: can't you just use the old kernel/initrd ?
[07:13] <vitriol> aeruder: yeah but i wanted that new kernel
[07:13] <fabbione> or file a bug and jbailey will tell you what to do
[07:13] <PurpleMotion> brb
[07:13] <vitriol> aeruder: hoping it will fix my ati driver problems
[07:13] <aeruder> vitriol: well, you could always compile your own
[07:13] <fabbione> vitriol: we don't use initrd anymore. it's called initramfs.. a completely new thingy
[07:13] <aeruder> vitriol: *shrug*
[07:13] <YDU_RH9> Anyone tell me the default root password for the 5.04 live CD?
[07:13] <fabbione> even if they have the same file name in /boot
[07:13] <vitriol> aeruder: the last time i tried to compile my own on a debian based system it didn't go well (i've never built kernels before on systems that depended on an initrd
[07:14] <aeruder> vitriol: there's nothing that depends on an initrd
[07:14] <kirtis> YDU_RH9, I think you just do sudo whatever and it lets you w/o a password
[07:14] <vitriol> oh my mistake
[07:14] <aeruder> just compile your ide and filesystem drivers into the kernel
[07:14] <YDU_RH9> kirtis: Roger that mate. Ta.
[07:14] <hardw1re> does anyone know if there is an LG monitor driver file for linux?
[07:14] <aeruder> vitriol: everything else you can leave as modules, initrd is only used to dynamically load modules that are essential to actually mounting the root fs
[07:14] <vitriol> aeruder: oohh...so i just follow the typical make menuconfig;make;make modules_install steps ?
[07:15] <aeruder> vitriol: and if you do your own kernel, there is no need for an initrd
[07:15] <vitriol> sweet!
[07:15] <aeruder> well, some of them boot with root=LABEL=/
[07:15] <vitriol> guess i'll try that then ;)
[07:15] <aeruder> that would have to be changed to the actual device
[07:15] <brenner> hardw1re: why?  what probs are you having?
[07:15] <aeruder> because the initrd handles that too
[07:15] <jmark> is there a way to change the default cd-player application in gnome? so that I can have goobox play my audio cd's instead of the default cd-player?
[07:16] <PurpleMotion> well,t hats weird
[07:16] <PurpleMotion> oh well
[07:16] <brenner> jmark: sys > prefs > removable
[07:16] <kirtis> jmark, yea removable drives and media in system -> preferences.
[07:16] <aeruder> vitriol: yep, just make sure you get your ide driver in and your root fs filesystem driver (ext3 or whatever)
[07:16] <aeruder> and just forget about the initrd ;)
[07:16] <Ice9> I have dma enabled, how come dvd playback is choppy with all the players?
[07:16] <vitriol> aeruder: ok...great
[07:16] <redtech> Im trying to add a new printer, but for some reason the only driver its showing now is Raw.  What did I break?
[07:16] <jmark> kirtis: thanks, checking that now.
[07:17] <aeruder> vitriol: there's a way to compile your own ubuntuized kernels too
[07:17] <dubnium> is ubuntu supposed to be on ext3? cause im on ext2?
[07:17] <brenner> Ice9: you *sure* you have it enabled?
[07:17] <aeruder> vitriol: and actually have a .deb for it and install
[07:17] <aeruder> vitriol: although i generally don't worry about it
[07:17] <vitriol> aeruder: is that easily explainable?
[07:17] <vitriol> ok
[07:17] <Ice9> yea, it says its enabled
[07:17] <aeruder> vitriol: no idea
[07:17] <vitriol> aeruder: i won't worry about it then
[07:17] <vitriol> aeruder: i'm not in X right now so i have to go off of memory
[07:17] <kirtis> dubnium, It's probably ext3, some things won't recognize the journal and see it as ext2
[07:17] <thoreauputic> dubnium: it shows as ext2 on boot - before the journal is started
[07:17] <vitriol> i've built a gazillion kernels on LFS and gentoo though so it's not a big deal
[07:18] <brenner> Ice9: using hdparm -d ?
[07:18] <aeruder> vitriol: i've never bothered to figure it out, i mean, if you name your kernel sanely in /boot,  and the modules will obviously go into /lib/modules/kernelver, it becomes rather simple to manually remove the kernel ;)
[07:18] <dubnium> when i set up my partition I may have selected ext2
[07:18] <jmark> kirtis: so I just change gnome-cd --unique --play --device %d to goobox --unique --play --device %d
[07:18] <vitriol> aeruder: true
[07:18] <Ice9> brennder, yes
[07:18] <Ice9> brenner*
[07:18] <brenner> jmark: you'll have to check the syntax for the goobox command
[07:18] <kirtis> jmark, no, probably just goobox.  To see the options open up a terminal and do something like goobox --help and see what options it gives
[07:18] <vitriol> aeruder: thanks :) hopefully this will fix my system
[07:19] <aeruder> vitriol: cool, at least you gave me hope of being able to upgrade to breezy ;)
[07:19] <GoClick> Does the amd64 iso work with the new Sempron 64 chips? the md5 of the disk was fine but it pooped installing initrd
[07:19] <jmark> thanks brenner and kirtis
[07:19] <hardw1re> right reboot time
[07:19] <vitriol> aeruder: i didn't get errors upgrading, it's just the kernel
[07:19] <aeruder> vitriol: yep, cool
[07:19] <splatg> dubnum: it shouldn't really matter, ext3 is just ext2 with journalling
[07:20] <aeruder> vitriol: i generally grab the latest kernel all the time, so i was always too impatient to wait ;)
[07:20] <locomorto> GoClick: Just use the i386 edition
[07:20] <locomorto> GoClick: its less pain as well (me looks at macromedia)
[07:21] <brenner> Ice9: dunno, but i'd double check to see if you're enabling on the right device
[07:21] <GoClick> Well that's less fun
[07:21] <jmark> it looks like it is just goobox --play
[07:21] <GoClick> How am I supposed to take advantage of the 64bitty goodness? What if I need to calculate imploding stars or something
[07:21] <aeruder> dubnium: and it is ridiculously easy to change over to using ext3 if you are on ext2
[07:21] <aeruder> there are plenty of guides online about that
[07:21] <aeruder> (and vice versa)
[07:22] <vitriol> did somebody say 64bit?
[07:22] <GoClick> vitriol me
[07:22] <vitriol> :p
[07:22] <vitriol> GoClick: you need the amd64 install cd
[07:22] <GoClick> I've got it
[07:23] <GoClick> it poopooed on me while installing initrd
[07:23] <vitriol> awww
[07:23] <jmark> brenner and kirtis: it looks like the only thing that needs to be removed is --unique
[07:23] <vitriol> GoClick: hoary?
[07:23] <Madpilot> someone please remind me what the command line for changing permissions is? not chown, but something else...?
[07:23] <aeruder> Madpilot: chmod
[07:23] <vitriol> Madpilot: chmod
[07:23] <jmark> Madpilot: chmod
[07:23] <vitriol> LOL
[07:23] <vitriol> one question 3 people answer
[07:23] <Madpilot> thanks everyone... :)
[07:23] <Nathanial> Hi I'm trying to make my Ubuntu pc into an FTP server, any easy to use software?
[07:24] <locomorto> GoClick: A sempron ain't for computing stuff
[07:24] <vitriol> Nathanial: proftpd or vsftpd
[07:24] <jmark> Nathanial: apt-get install proftp
[07:24] <locomorto> GoClick: The diffrence is marginal anyway
[07:24] <Nathanial> Where will I find it after installation?
[07:24] <jmark> Nathanial: oops forgot the d , proftpd
[07:24] <GoClick> vitriol Yeah
[07:24] <vitriol> locomorto: you're just jealous of our 64 bit floating point calculations!!
[07:25] <Nathanial> Uh where will I find it under after installation? Is it like a program?
[07:25] <vitriol> GoClick: if that happens while you are installing you need to file a bug report :( sorry to hear it's doing that to you
[07:25] <locomorto> Its where i do all my hard core compilmation
[07:25] <navyn> hello
[07:25] <GoClick> I may just have to do that
[07:25] <GoClick> Althouhg I'm never a fan of using bugzilla
[07:25] <vitriol> locomorto: you using the 64bit ubuntu?
[07:26] <arbir> i got the live cd running on my laptop.. but internet does seem to work. i see the network name in the drop down list and i join it.. but i am not able to acquire a dhcp... but if i boot the machine with XP it aquired DHCP perfectly and internet works well. what could i be doing wrong ?
[07:26] <locomorto> vitrol: yes
[07:26] <vitriol> GoClick: you must be using some unusual hardware for that to happen...thats not a very common problem
[07:27] <GoClick> vitriol I tried to get the most stock hardware I could, it's an Asus board and a geforce maxtor hd
[07:27] <vitriol> locomorto: i just joined the 64 bit club a week ago
[07:27] <vitriol> :)
[07:27] <Klementas> when I add the ubuntu-calendar packages, isn't that supposed to be some kind of wallpaper for Gnome ?
[07:27] <GoClick> pretty common stuff
[07:27] <navyn> hey
[07:27] <brenner> locomorto: i'm not that familiar with the amd line...is the sempron the equivalent of a celeron?
[07:27] <locomorto> sort of
[07:27] <GoClick> Yeah
[07:27] <locomorto> its a bit more powerfull though
[07:27] <vitriol> GoClick: what install cd are you using?
[07:27] <vitriol> x86?
[07:28] <GoClick> AMD64
[07:28] <jmark> Nathanial:  http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#ftpserver has a section in it about getting an ftp server up and running
[07:28] <GoClick> ubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso
[07:28] <vitriol> GoClick: i mean no insult...but you have an amd64 right?
[07:28] <navyn> waswas
[07:28] <brenner> locomorto: but it's still "below" a regular amd?
[07:28] <locomorto> yes
[07:28] <GoClick> Yeah it is
[07:28] <brenner> ah ok
[07:28] <GoClick> Or so the box says
[07:29] <GoClick> 754pin Sempron
[07:29] <vitriol> GoClick: ok. you can use the 386 or 686 install cd and see if those work
[07:29] <vitriol> GoClick: ahh!
[07:29] <arbir> nobody to help today ? :-(
[07:29] <vitriol> GoClick: there is your problem!
[07:29] <Gatton> doesn't it just have less cache?
[07:29] <No1Viking> helloyo, I have a problem regarding language. In X-chat and other few applications my swedish characters do not work. The odd thing is that it works in most of the others like openoffice etc. Any ideas what to do about it?
[07:29] <vitriol> GoClick: a sempron is not 64 bit
[07:29] <vitriol> GoClick: you need the 686 install cd
[07:29] <GoClick> vitriol the new ones are, this one even says it on the box
[07:29] <vitriol> GoClick: really? interesting
[07:30] <vitriol> GoClick: well the 686 install cd will work for you
[07:30] <aeruder> No1Viking: define "do not work" and you'll get some more help
[07:30] <vitriol> GoClick: i've used the 686 cd on my turion
[07:30] <Nathanial> I installed vsftpd
[07:30] <arbir> test
[07:30] <arbir> test
[07:30] <GoClick> But then I've paid for 32bits I'm not using :P
[07:30] <Gatton> GoClick, if the cpu is new the 64 bit version may not be designed to work with it yet?
[07:30] <vitriol> lol
[07:30] <Madpilot> arbir: you are coming thru
[07:30] <aeruder> No1Viking: do they not even type into the text prompt or don't send correctly or what?
[07:30] <GoClick> Gatton could be :(
[07:30] <GoClick> Oh well
[07:30] <arbir> thanks Madpilot
[07:30] <Gatton> depending on how different Sempron64 is from AMD64
[07:30] <arbir> i am stuck and now i am scared to install Ubuntu on my laptop
[07:30] <vitriol> that blows my mind
[07:30] <No1Viking> Well aeruder: I get other odd charachters instead of the ones I print
[07:30] <vitriol> ...they're making 64 bit semprons now.....
[07:31] <GoClick> Mostly it was just a way to get my boss to buy me a gig of ram tho too
[07:31] <brenner> arbir: define stuck
[07:31] <aeruder> No1Viking: what other apps you have problems with?
[07:31] <arbir> Madpilot, can you help me?
[07:31] <GoClick> Sempron 64 http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ned=&q=sempron+64&btnG=Search+News
[07:31] <Madpilot> need a bit of CLI checking before I do something... to add user/write privs to a whole directory, it's going to be "chmod +R u+w", correct?
[07:31] <No1Viking> Gaim and x-chat are the ones I know I have problems with
[07:31] <jmark> arbir: what is the problem you are having?
[07:31] <GoClick> Although the first few links there are no good
[07:31] <Madpilot> arbir: I missed what your question was, sorry
[07:32] <Gatton> GoClick, cool. I don't know how i missed that
[07:32] <eps> does the ubuntu livecd provide a device.map from grub?
[07:32] <aeruder> No1Viking: hrmmm... could be some sort of gtk2 issue
[07:32] <arbir> i got the live cd running on my laptop.. but internet does seem to work. i see the network name in the drop down list and i join it.. but i am not able to acquire a dhcp... but if i boot the machine with XP it aquired DHCP perfectly and internet works well. what could i be doing wrong ?
[07:33] <No1Viking> aeruder, yeah might be, dunno
[07:33] <jmark> arbir:the internet works  or doesn't work?
[07:33] <arbir> specifying static is also not helping as i am unable to ping my gateway
[07:33] <redtech> Im trying to add a new printer, but for some reason the only driver its showing now is Raw.  What did I break?  *SOLVED*
[07:33] <arbir> no jmark it does not
[07:34] <Ice9> yep, dma is definitely enabled, how come my dvd playback is still choppy?
 .. "but internet does seem to work"...
[07:34] <brenner> :)
[07:34] <brenner> Ice9: what player?
[07:34] <jedix> Ice9: have support for your chipset?
[07:34] <Ice9> vlc, mplayer, and xine
[07:34] <jmark> do you see eth0 when you do a ifconfig
[07:34] <Ice9> how do I check support for the chipset?
[07:35] <arbir> jmark, yeah
[07:35] <arbir> i even see that if i assign it a static ip, its properly assigned
[07:35] <kirtis> Madpilot, i think you want chmod -R u+rw dir
[07:36] <jmark> arbir: well, what kinda dhcp server are you using?
[07:36] <arbir> brenner, i am on my desktop now
[07:36] <arbir> jmark, i have a dlink router
[07:36] <Madpilot> kirtis: thanks, I went ahead and experimented, figured most of it out!
[07:36] <jmark> me too, hehe
[07:37] <jmark> arbir: probably something setup wrong on the router
[07:37] <arbir> jmark, if i boot with xp it works fine
[07:37] <brenner> redtech: well done...how'd you solve it?
[07:37] <Ice9> how do I check if I have support for my chipset?
[07:37] <Gatton> arbir, so you don't get an ip at all? you are 169.254.x.x?
[07:38] <aeruder> Gatton: uh, what?
[07:38] <jmark> arbir: yeah, i'm not sure
[07:38] <arbir> Gatton, with dhcp enabled i dont get an ip at all
[07:38] <jedix> jesus
[07:38] <arbir> if i specify one.. its 192.168.5.11 subnet 255.255.255.0
[07:38] <Gatton> arbir, when you boot the live cd...if you do ifconfig...you are getting what on eth0? 0.0.0.0?
[07:38] <jedix> I can't make it through an install without a kernel panic
[07:38] <arbir> Gatton, no i only see IPv6 values there
[07:39] <SavantEdge> hi, I need some help....
[07:39] <Gatton> arbir, are you able to see your router? i guess not if you get no ip though
[07:39] <jedix> correction, I can't make it through an install without many kernel panics.
[07:39] <Gatton> damn peculiar
[07:39] <arbir> no Gatton i cant ping anything at all :-()
[07:39] <redtech> brenner, I made a mistake and changed the cups data directory in the cups.conf.  I should be slapped
[07:39] <Madpilot> SavantEdge: just ask your question; no need to ask to ask...
[07:39] <aeruder> what network card?
[07:39] <arbir> Gatton, let me try to aquire DHCP again
[07:40] <Gatton> arbir, maybe take eth0 down and back up. ifdown eth0  ifup eth0
[07:40] <arbir> aeruder its the intel wireless card that comes with the dell inspiron 9300
[07:40] <brenner> redtech: lol, well you fixed it didn't you?  it's all part of the learning experience. :)
[07:40] <arbir> Gatton, let me try that... let me go up and see what my laptop is upto
[07:40] <arbir> BRB in 2 ins
[07:40] <arbir> mins
[07:40] <Gatton> ok
[07:41] <BTJustice> I have a SB Live! 7.1 24bit sound card.  I used these directions (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307) to get it to work, but the sound is really choppy and scratchy.  How can I fix that in Kubuntu?
[07:41] <SavantEdge> When I download themes for GTK, where do they wind up?  They don't seem to automatically appear in Theme Preferences.
[07:41] <Ice9> how do I check if I have support for my chipset?
[07:41] <kevin06> I have some stupid questions for anyone familair with Webmin. Am I correct in assuming a Master Zone is equal to a domain? And that a "slave" zone is equal to a sub-domain?
[07:41] <redtech> brenner, indeed
[07:42] <brenner> jedix: while you wait, search the forums for the errors you are getting
[07:42] <kirtis> SavantEdge, Depends, if it's a simple theme without a seperate engine you can usually install it from the theme selection place, otherwise you'll probably have to do the old ./configure; make; make install
[07:42] <Ice9> how do I check if I have support for my chipset?
[07:43] <brenner> Ice9: from the wiki: "Most systems newer than 3 years support DMA"
[07:43] <jedix> brenner: I would, but I'm installing using a tv and can't see the exact text output.
[07:43] <SavantEdge> Well, I got them with Synaptic...I don't know where it puts them though for me to browse through with Theme Preferences
[07:44] <Ice9> yes I know, I have dma enabled, according to everything
[07:44] <Ice9> I just don't get why everything is so choppy
[07:44] <kirtis> SavantEdge, Oh, well it's probably in /usr/share/themes/ but it should be showing up.. maybe a logout/login is required?
[07:44] <syncron> hi
[07:44] <Ice9> its not just dvds
[07:44] <jedix> Ice9: check what modules are loaded
[07:44] <Ice9> like when I minimize a window or something
[07:44] <jedix> Ice9: lsmod
[07:44] <Ice9> its choppy too
[07:44] <Gatton> SavantEdge, maybe check ~/.themes?
[07:44] <syncron> i'm having some problems with accessing files in my ntfs partition...
[07:45] <brenner> Ice9: system specs?
[07:45] <Ice9> jedix, what am I looking for?
[07:45] <jedix> Ice9: and are you using hardware acceleration in playback?
[07:45] <jedix> Ice9: sec
[07:45] <BT_Justice> .nick BTJustice
[07:45] <Ice9> brenner, its a p4 3.06 ghz, 3 gigs of ram
[07:45] <brenner> Ice9: heh, probably not a problem then
[07:46] <SavantEdge> Gatton, umm, ~ means /home, right?
[07:46] <Gatton> right. do you have a .themes in home?
[07:46] <aeruder> could someone please kickban Vedu-reklameris, he is using the channel for spam on exiting and entering
[07:46] <brenner> SavantEdge: /home/<username>
[07:46] <Ice9> yea, thats why this is driving me so crazy
[07:46] <Ice9> and it took me forever just to learn how to enable dma, and its not even the problem
[07:46] <jedix> Ice9: see if generic something or other is loaded
[07:46] <Gatton> SavantEdge, make that /home/username   but you probably figured that :-)
[07:46] <SavantEdge> Yeah
[07:46] <brenner> syncron: what problems?
[07:47] <syncron> i mounted my windows partition to /media/windows but when i try and play some mp3 files, they crash my media player
[07:47] <SavantEdge> Well, nothing in ~/.themes, but there's stuff in /usr/shar/themes, so I'm fiddling with that now.
[07:47] <brenner> syncron: what media player?
[07:47] <Ice9> jedix, there's no generic anything
[07:47] <syncron> oh xmms and beep media player
[07:47] <brenner> syncron: have you changed the output plugin to esoudn or alsa yet?
[07:47] <brenner> *esound
[07:48] <syncron> i tried copying the files over to /home too
[07:48] <syncron> oh, no i haven't
[07:48] <brenner> syncron: it's a sound system "problem"
[07:48] <brenner> syncron: lot of people experience it with those 2 programs
[07:48] <umboto> hey can someone kick the bot?
[07:48] <brenner> i.e. problem was xmms/bmp, not your partition
[07:48] <aeruder> he's in the process
[07:48] <syncron> ic
[07:48] <aeruder> umboto: i'd give it 5 seconds
[07:49] <aeruder> ;)
[07:49] <umboto> that Vedu-reklameris  person is a bot
[07:49] <umboto> advertising crap
[07:49] <umboto> when i joined
[07:49] <jedix> fuck, this install won't complete
[07:49] <aeruder> umboto: yes, i know
[07:49] <GoClick> Grrrr so mad, I feel bad to because while I sit here now burning my 15th Linux CD in the last 2 days I KNOW it's costing a lot of money :P
[07:49] <umboto> ok
[07:49] <aeruder> umboto: there are several people (including me) reporting him to staffers
[07:49] <GoClick> We should have just bought a Dell :P
[07:49] <aeruder> he'll be gone as soon as they setup the k-line ;)
[07:49] <umboto> hey um..anyone here having a problem with firefox?
[07:49] <umboto> for some reason every other reboot, firefox won't display
[07:50] <umboto> i just get a starting firefox on the taskbar
[07:50] <aeruder> umboto: run it on the console and see if any messages are printed
[07:50] <umboto> and then it just exits
[07:50] <No1Viking> What to do to get daemons, that I dont need, to not load when I boot again?
[07:50] <umboto> i tried
[07:50] <brenner> aeruder: weird, i haven't noticed him/her doing anything wrong. :-/
[07:50] <aeruder> s/console/in a terminal/
[07:50] <umboto> and it did nothing
[07:50] <SavantEdge> another question, I'm trying to install a program which needs GTK+, which I thought was already installed by default on Ubuntu, but when I run ./configure, it reports its not.  Where can I get it?  (Program is gnome-mud-0.10.7, if it helps)
[07:50] <Gatton> GoClick, what kind is it?
[07:50] <aeruder> brenner: it is on join/part
[07:50] <syncron> where can i change the plugin? sorry i'm a new linux user
[07:50] <brenner> aeruder: when 'it' joins, parts?
[07:50] <kirtis> SavantEdge, you need the developer package..
[07:51] <aeruder> brenner: no, when you join/part
[07:51] <umboto> i tried running firefox in console with firefox %u
[07:51] <aeruder> it spams ya ;)
[07:51] <brenner> syncron: ctrl+p
[07:51] <SavantEdge> ah, ok
[07:51] <SavantEdge> thanks
[07:51] <umboto> and it just likes thinks for a minute
[07:51] <umboto> then goes to the next line
[07:51] <umboto> with no errors
[07:51] <aeruder> ;)
[07:51] <umboto> im like hmm
[07:51] <Madpilot> scratch one spammer...
[07:51] <brenner> aeruder: ah, ok. :)
[07:51] <syncron> k thanks
[07:51] <GoClick> So I'm getting fairly familiar with Linux installing I must say I hope Ubuntu doesn't start getting installer envy because for it's pretty face installing Fedora is no fun
[07:51] <bjw> anyone else getting this
[07:52] <bjw> "Launching HTTP Cleaner"
[07:52] <Ice9> anybody have any ideas why my video is so choppy? I have dma enabled
[07:52] <bjw> thing
[07:52] <arbi2> is back
[07:52] <No1Viking> Another Q: What to do to get daemons, that I dont need, to not load when I boot next time?
[07:52] <arbi2> cant get my wireless networking to work
[07:52] <thoreauputic> umboto: just type "firefox" without the %u
[07:52] <GoClick> The only thing I think I'd really like is some sort of thing to let me know it hasn't crashed, something spinny in the corner
[07:52] <syncron> me neither, what kind of wireless card do you have?
[07:52] <umboto> i also tried that
[07:52] <kirtis> No1Viking, cd /etc/rc2.d/ and rm the links that you don't want.  Or if you have breezy use services-admin
[07:52] <umboto> nothing
[07:52] <locomorto> No1Viking delete/move the script from /etc/init.d
[07:52] <jmark> Ice9: mine is too, not sure why, though i'm on a slow machine by todays standards
[07:52] <umboto> but don't worry guys it only happens every other reboot
[07:53] <arbi2> syncron, its the one that comes with the dell inspiron 9300. i think its an intel card
[07:53] <umboto> which i can't find out what causes it
[07:53] <Ice9> jmark I'm not...lol
[07:53] <brenner> No1Viking: as in services?
[07:53] <syncron> ah, i have an inspiron 600m
[07:53] <No1Viking> brenner: yes
[07:53] <fortyoz> How do i make it so when my gf logs in with her username, everything is in spanish? the default system language is english
[07:53] <umboto> next time ill just restart x instead of rebooting
[07:53] <jmark> <-- suffering from puter envy
[07:53] <brenner> No1Viking: you can install rcconf or one of the other apps like it to easily disable/enable those
[07:53] <arbi2> syncron, the best part is.. it works well when i boot with XP
[07:54] <arbi2> syncron, and also in ubuntu.. i see the wireless network name
[07:54] <No1Viking> Take the services away since I dont need, for ex postfix
[07:54] <thoreauputic> !bum
[07:54] <ubotu> bum is probably a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[07:54] <thoreauputic> No1Viking: ^^^ see ubotu
[07:54] <arbi2> syncron, but i cam unable to aquire a DHCP
[07:54] <BTJustice> I need help with a SB Live! 7.1 24 bit sound card.  I used these instructions to get it to work (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307), but the sound is choppy and scratchy.  How can I fix this?
[07:55] <jedix> damnit
[07:55] <jedix> this sucks, I can't get the installer to finish
[07:55] <GoClick> jedix where is it quitting?
[07:55] <jedix> and this is the computer with the cd burner so I can't burn another iso
[07:55] <ian> how long does it usually take to get GAIM updates into ubuntu?
[07:55] <arbi2> test
[07:55] <arbi2> test
[07:55] <jedix> GoClick: 16% of the grub install
[07:55] <GoClick> arbi2 we can see you
[07:56] <jedix> detecting other operating systems
[07:56] <GoClick> jedix what kind of hardware?
[07:56] <arbi2> thanks .. i got kicked out and lost my arbir nickname
[07:56] <GoClick> Do you have any other OSes?
[07:56] <jedix> GoClick: amd64 sata drive
[07:56] <jedix> I think the problem is that it sees the xfs partitions
[07:56] <arbi2> any idea if i can make my wireless card to work ?
[07:56] <jedix> because it crashed earlier when I tried to mount those in the partition section
[07:57] <GoClick> arbi2 do you have a driver disk?
[07:57] <GoClick> Or some sort of driver from the manufacturer?
[07:57] <arbi2> arbi2, no.. i dont and GoClick Ubuntu has recognized my wireless card
[07:57] <jedix> GoClick: nope
[07:57] <GoClick> My experiance so far with WiFi under Linux is that it's spotty at best if you don't have drivers directly from the manufacturer
[07:57] <izette_> How do I install an older kernel in ubuntu? 2.6 kernels break my Rio500
[07:58] <jedix> GoClick: two xfs partitions and two ext3
[07:58] <GoClick> arbi2 what's it NOT doing then?
[07:58] <arbi2> if i can see the wireless network name in the drop down
[07:58] <arbi2> GoClick, its not able to ping my gateway
[07:58] <arbi2> i cant get to the net
[07:58] <GoClick> Can you get an IP from the DHCP server?
[07:58] <brenner> ian: if you're talking about main, universe and multiverse, afaik, security updates only....not sure about backports and extras though
[07:58] <arbi2> dhcp does not aquire addy
[07:58] <jedix> GoClick: maybe I can use a live cd to boot and debootstrap
[07:59] <ian> brenner:  there's a remote crasher in 1.4
[07:59] <GoClick> jedix that's an idea
[07:59] <GoClick> I'm not a grub expert so I won't be able to help with that persay
[07:59] <GoClick> I'd probably just install all over
[08:00] <Ice9> anybody have any ideas why my video is so choppy? I have dma enabled
[08:00] <GoClick> arbir by chance are you trying to use an open key in a shared key system?
[08:00] <Tom-W> playing from hd or cd ?
[08:00] <psurani> guys, i installed wget, now how to start it ?
[08:00] <brenner> ian: what version is in bp?
[08:00] <arbi2> GoClick, nothing like that.. i just got the router a couple of days back. its running totaly insecure
[08:00] <GoClick> psurani wget http://wwww.example.com/file.ext
[08:01] <brenner> psurani: *chuckle*  you need to learn the syntax
[08:01] <Gatton> type wget lol
[08:01] <GoClick> and it works under Windows right?
[08:01] <psurani> GoClick, theres not GUI for wget ?
[08:01] <Madpilot> psurani: "man wget" will get you the wget manual
[08:01] <brenner> psurani: or you could use gwget2 for a very limited GUI interface
[08:01] <GoClick> wget isn't exactly a gui kinda thing
[08:01] <psurani> GoClick, , does wget support resume for downloading ? even if PC gets rebooted by mistake ?
[08:01] <GoClick> it just for downloading one or two files off http
[08:01] <GoClick> psurani HTTP does NOT support resume of any kind
[08:01] <GoClick> Atleast not vanila HTTP
[08:02] <BTJustice> I need help with a SB Live! 7.1 24 bit sound card.  I used these instructions to get it to work (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307), but the sound is choppy and scratchy.  How can I fix this?
[08:02] <psurani> GoClick, , in windows we have few download managers that support resume for both http and ftp ?
[08:02] <thoreauputic> GoClick: rubbish - wget -c will resume from a n aborted download
[08:02] <GoClick> yes but it's not part of the HTTP 1.1 spec
[08:02] <Madpilot> psurani: I think firefox's dl manager supports resuming; I know that Opera's dl manager will
[08:02] <brenner> psurani: in linux distros, we have many :)
[08:02] <GoClick> I refuse to support crazy crap like that
[08:02] <GoClick> It defeats the point of standards
[08:02] <ian> brenner: bp?  umm, I'm not sure, I'm using 1.4 and there's no option to upgrade
[08:03] <brenner> ian: backports
[08:03] <arbi2> test
[08:03] <arbi2> test
[08:03] <GoClick> arbi2 you might wanna look into using the Network's nickserv
[08:03] <izette_> does ubuntu have something similiar to backports.org
[08:03] <brenner> !backports
[08:03] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[08:03] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:03] <ubotu> hmm... repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:04] <psurani> !uname -a
[08:04] <ubotu> I don't know, psurani
[08:04] <brenner> heh, bettter link :)
[08:04] <arbi2> GoClick, what is that
[08:04] <Madpilot> izette_: see the bottom of the AddingRepos page
[08:04] <psurani> !uname -a
[08:04] <PurpleMotion> uname -a:
[08:04] <PurpleMotion> Linux psilocybin 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Fri Jun 24 17:33:34 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:04] <GoClick> arbi2 go /msg nickserv help
[08:04] <Madpilot> psurani: you're not in a terminal windown, you know...
[08:04] <psurani> !uname -a
[08:04] <ubotu> psurani: Are you smoking crack?
[08:04] <Madpilot> *window
[08:04] <psurani> !uname -a
[08:04] <thoreauputic> psurani: umm - why are you asking the bot to give kernel info?
[08:05] <Tom-W> lol
[08:05] <Gatton> psurani i think you want to type that in your terminal not here heh
[08:05] <esc_ape> anyone have the problem with gaim where it appears & then quickly disappears when you click on it?
[08:05] <GoClick> arbi2 it's great for killing your old ghosts once you get it figured out
[08:05] <psurani> who is ubotu ?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[08:05] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:05] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:05] <Tom-W> ! cat /proc/pci :-)
[08:05] <arbi2> GoClick, yeah rigght...
[08:05] <ubotu> No idea, Tom-W
[08:05] <Gatton> arbi2, if you're registered you can use a recover command to get your nick back
[08:05] <arbi2> is sleepy now
[08:05] <odyssey23> hey guys i'm looking at getting into ubuntu....
[08:05] <Gatton> hmmm i don't think i'm registered come to think of it
[08:05] <arbi2> cant figure out his wifi network
[08:05] <GoClick> arbi2 what do you mean yeah right?
[08:06] <PurpleMotion> not registered
[08:06] <PurpleMotion> how dare you
[08:06] <GoClick> odyssey23 what are you wondering?
[08:06] <esc_ape> odyssey - I'm a new to ubuntu as well
[08:06] <arbi2> GoClick, i meant that i did see that today and i registered with a password
[08:06] <odyssey23> can anyone email me a user manual?
[08:06] <arbi2> GoClick, i need to do some more rtfm
[08:06] <odyssey23> hey esc_ape :")
[08:06] <arbi2> GoClick, and right now. i am dead tired :-(
[08:06] <Gatton> hehe
[08:06] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, you know those crappy new audio chipsets whose volume controls are entirely software-based (and thus are only supported with the Windows drivers)?
[08:06] <Gatton> am now!
[08:06] <Madpilot> odyssey23: http://wiki.ubuntu/com - have a look around there
[08:06] <pauldaoust> has anyone devised a workaround for these chips so that you can control the mixing from Linux?
[08:07] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  said http://www.ubuntu could not be found, please check the spelling and try again
[08:07] <pauldaoust> wow, that made everyone go real quiet ^_^
[08:07] <odyssey23>  i had it on me new (well bought a ebay comp... small but new for us lol) comp but couldnt work it out so i'm getting a full version off a distributer but i couldnt work out how to install a modem :(
[08:07] <GoClick> PurpleMotion I'll be sure to let the authorities know :P
[08:07] <arbi2> bye all
[08:07] <Tom-W> is it like the ndisrapper driver for a soundcard?
[08:07] <DekaPink> Can I set xchat to auto-accept file transfers? :3
[08:07] <PurpleMotion> GoClick:  I got a number for them around here somewhere, holdon while i check
[08:08] <BTJustice> I need help with a SB Live! 7.1 24 bit sound card.  I used these instructions to get it to work (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19307), but the sound is choppy and scratchy.  How can I fix this?
[08:08] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion odyssey23: sorry, typo. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[08:08] <brenner> pauldaoust: if it helps, i've heard of the issue, search the wiki and forum while you wait
[08:08] <pauldaoust> tom-W: I doubt there's anything like that; I think ALSA is a different fish from modem drivers... although I suspect it's not too hugely different.
[08:08] <GoClick> PurpleMotion isn't it 1-800-YAY-DMCA heh?
[08:08] <odyssey23> ohh thanx i'll look at that :)
[08:08] <pauldaoust> brenner: thanks; I'll check it
[08:08] <PurpleMotion> but considering the quality is less than tv (80mb per 42min episode) and the fact that im not distributing them, i would imagine they'll tell you to bugger off
[08:08] <psurani> gwget2 supports resume, even if PC reboots by mistake ????
[08:08] <psurani> !gwget2
[08:08] <ubotu> psurani: Are you on ritalin?
[08:08] <psurani> !mad ?
[08:09] <ubotu> Wish i knew, psurani
[08:09] <brenner> psurani: depends on where the file is hosted
[08:09] <pauldaoust> tom-W: I think these chipsets are a hack, their Win drivers are a hack, and... well, I'm looking for another hack from Linux ^_^
[08:09] <Madpilot> psurani: if you've got it installed, go to a terminal and type "man gwget2"
[08:09] <brenner> psurani: some sites disable resuming
[08:09] <pauldaoust> * for Linux, not from Linux
[08:09] <crimsun> BTJustice: did you try plughw:0,0?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> psurani: search in synaptic for Downloader for X - you might be happier with that
[08:09] <Gatton> what? ubotu doesn't have the sum of all human knowledge? ;)
[08:09] <odyssey23> has anyone got the user manual/guide file they can send me so i can do some reading up on it also?
[08:09] <psurani> how to make gwget a default dl manager ?
[08:10] <thoreauputic> psurani: or just type  sudo apt-get install d4x
[08:10] <pauldaoust> I'm all excited; I've been commissioned to deploy a Linux network for a local private school with a limited computer budget.
[08:10] <BTJustice> crimsun, I never ehard of it but will try
[08:10] <brenner> odyssey23: all online afaik
[08:10] <PurpleMotion> Gatton:  i was surprised at how little ubotu had...
[08:10] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell Gatton about yourself
[08:10] <odyssey23> sorry?
[08:10] <Gatton> PurpleMotion, i suppose it's up to us to add?
[08:10] <Gatton> :-)
[08:10] <PurpleMotion> sure is
[08:10] <jedix> GoClick: my knoppix doesn't seem to support my hardware
[08:10] <pauldaoust> (well, maybe 'commissioned' is bending the truth... more like, I convinced the principal to try out Linux because it would cut down maintenance)
[08:10] <crimsun> BTJustice: are you using ALSA directly or arts/esound?
[08:10] <BTJustice> crimsun: Where do I do that at? It doesn't work in the terminal.
[08:11] <Madpilot> odyssey23: there really isn't one user manual that's emailable. start at www.ubuntu.com and check around
[08:11] <brenner> odyssey23: there aren't any hard-copies of manuals/guides.
[08:11] <jedix> I'm back to trying to get ubuntu to take off the install cd
[08:11] <BTJustice> crimsun: As far as I know ALSA
[08:11] <GoClick> WGET does support resume, it's that the resume methods aren't always supported by servers
[08:11] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: ubotu is still a young bot with much to learn ;)
[08:11] <odyssey23> ohh so the disc itself dosnt come with one?
[08:11] <crimsun> BTJustice: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[08:11] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  agreed
[08:11] <brenner> pauldaoust: crimsun might now of your issue...he's the sound guru in here
[08:11] <Madpilot> odyssey23: there's a Ubuntu Help thing in the install, but the wiki and here are frankly better!
[08:11] <brenner> *know
[08:11] <Gatton> odyssey23, i doubt it. the wiki and forums are very helpful
[08:11] <pauldaoust> brenner: funky!
[08:12] <azriel0184> is it possible to get something to run very early in the boot up procedure? (before mounting local file systems)
[08:12] <Gatton> ubuntuguide helped me out a lot too but i don't know if that info is getting old?
[08:12] <BTJustice> kmix    8543 btjustice   10u   CHR  116,0      8588 /dev/snd/controlC0
[08:12] <SavantEdge> right, so I'm trying to do ./configure again after downloading some of the packages it mentions, and now it ends with this:
[08:12] <SavantEdge> checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
[08:12] <SavantEdge> checking for GMUD_CFLAGS...
[08:12] <SavantEdge> checking for GMUD_LIBS...
[08:12] <SavantEdge> Package libgnome-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[08:12] <SavantEdge> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnome-2.0.pc'
[08:12] <odyssey23> ohh ok so sorry (i know i might sound simple) but wiki is a different version of ubuntu?
[08:12] <SavantEdge> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[08:12] <SavantEdge> No package 'libgnome-2.0' found
[08:12] <SavantEdge> configure: error: Package requirements (libgnome-2.0 >= 2.0.0
[08:12] <SavantEdge>                         libgnomeui-2.0 >= 2.0.0
[08:12] <SavantEdge>                         vte >= 0.10.26
[08:12] <brenner> SavantEdge: DON'T paste
[08:12] <SavantEdge>                         libglade-2.0 >= 2.0.1) were not met.
[08:12] <SavantEdge> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[08:12] <pauldaoust> crimsun: are you familiar with the issue involving these stupid new audio chipsets and their stupid mixers, that seem to be controllable only by the Windows driver? it's almost like a winmodem for the sound world :)
[08:12] <SavantEdge> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[08:12] <SavantEdge> Alternatively you may set the GMUD_CFLAGS and GMUD_LIBS environment variables
[08:12] <SavantEdge> to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
[08:12] <thoreauputic> !lart SavantEdge
[08:12] <Madpilot> odyssey23: no, the wiki is that URL I gave you earlier - wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:12] <SavantEdge> more details.
[08:12] <SavantEdge> Could someone tell me what that means?
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> or
[08:13] <crimsun> pauldaoust: depends on the chipset and thus, driver
[08:13] <odyssey23> ohh k... loading it now... :)
[08:13] <odyssey23> brb
[08:13] <Madpilot> SavantEdge: it means that you need to use pastebin, please!
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> or
[08:13] <SavantEdge> whats pastebin?
[08:13] <Ice9> "/usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage: line 175: fakeroot: command not found"how do I fix that?
[08:13] <Madpilot> !paste
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> www.ubuntu.com/wiki
[08:13] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> or
[08:13] <thoreauputic> SavantEdge: given that you just spammed the channel, I doubt many people will want to help
[08:13] <azriel0184> is it possible to get something to run very early in the boot up procedure? (before mounting local file systems)
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> wiki8.ubuntulinux.org
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> err
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> wiki.
[08:13] <PurpleMotion> !wiki
[08:13] <pauldaoust> crimsun: ah. so some of these crappy new chipsets have ALSA drivers that software-control the volume?
[08:13] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: one URL is probably enough... ;)
[08:13] <odyssey23> GREAT thanx... :)
[08:14] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  just being anally thorough
[08:14] <odyssey23> be back soon... i'll go have a look :")
[08:14] <crimsun> BTJustice: ok, so you're using ALSA directly. Try telling amarok to use alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[08:14] <psurani> guys, how to install emule in ubuntu ?
[08:14] <crimsun> BTJustice: (presuming you're using the amarok-gstreamer engine)
[08:14] <crimsun> pauldaoust: certain ones are limited by hardware design, yes
[08:14] <BTJustice> crimsun: How do I do that plese?
[08:14] <GoClick> when you install Ubuntu 5.04 what's the default root password?
[08:15] <Madpilot> GoClick: no such thing
[08:15] <Madpilot> !root
[08:15] <ubotu> methinks root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:15] <PurpleMotion> GoClick:  there isn't one, look what ubotu said
[08:15] <Madpilot> GoClick: see ubotu ^^^
[08:15] <GoClick> sounds good to me
[08:15] <crimsun> pauldaoust: where the underlying hardware supports multiopen and the manufacturer has provided specs, full hardware accel is available in the ALSA driver
[08:15] <psurani> !emule
[08:15] <ubotu> psurani: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:15] <BTJustice> Great lightning storm.  I'll probably lose my power.
[08:15] <GoClick> This is a very good idea
[08:15] <Gatton> psurani, try sudo apt-get install amule
[08:15] <crimsun> BTJustice: I presume you use Amarok?
[08:16] <pauldaoust> crimsun: oh, so maybe the problem isn't in the chipsets; maybe it's in the driver, which could still be alpha?
[08:16] <psurani> Gatton, ahh thnx
[08:16] <pauldaoust> crimsun: actually, I've disabled the sound card in the BIOS so I'd have an easier time installing and using a PCI sound card... so I can't go 'lspci' to find out what sorta chipset I have. I guess I'll have to wait another day ^_^
[08:16] <odyssey23> #
[08:16] <odyssey23> WartyWarthog - Version 4.10. Previous stable release; supported until April 2006. (BugTracking)
[08:16] <odyssey23> #
[08:16] <odyssey23> HoaryHedgehog - Version 5.04. Use this if you want the most stable Ubuntu system. (BugTracking)
[08:16] <odyssey23> #
[08:16] <odyssey23> BreezyBadger
[08:16] <BTJustice> amaroK 1.2
[08:16] <odyssey23> ohh crap sorry :(
[08:16] <Tom-W> emule is only win-32 so you would need wine
[08:16] <pauldaoust> could try amule...
[08:16] <Madpilot> !+amule
[08:16] <ubotu> Madpilot: Not a clue
[08:16] <crimsun> pauldaoust: it depends on the chipset(s) - which are you wanting to use with Ubuntu?
[08:16] <GoClick> Is there an easy way to add more refresh rates to the resoltion configuration thingy?
[08:17] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, emule is one of the lowest quality P2P programs available. People should take a look at LimeWire (http://www.LimeWire.Com), but if you MUST use eMule, the website is: http://www.emule-project.net
[08:17] <ubotu> okay, PurpleMotion
[08:17] <brenner> !tell GoClick about fixres
[08:17] <crimsun> BTJustice: ok, do you have amarok-gstreamer installed?
[08:17] <psurani> !ubotu
[08:17] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:17] <Gatton> odyssey23, you are getting hoary 5.04 right?
[08:17] <BTJustice> crimsun: Let me look.
[08:17] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: there is amule for Gnome - I assume that uses the emule network things?
[08:17] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  it's the mule engine that sucks
[08:18] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  limewire is 1000% better
[08:18] <pauldaoust> crimsun: like I said, it looks like I disabled the onboard sound in the BIOS, so I can't find out :) guess I'll have to deal with it later.
[08:18] <psurani> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:18] <psurani>   amule: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not installable
[08:18] <psurani>          Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not installable
[08:18] <psurani>          Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>= 2.4.2.6) but it is not going to be installed
[08:18] <psurani> E: Broken packages
[08:18] <PurpleMotion> !paste
[08:18] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:18] <psurani> what to do in this case ?
[08:18] <pauldaoust> !wheeeeeeeee
[08:18] <ubotu> pauldaoust: I give up, what is it?
[08:18] <Madpilot> psurani: do you have the Universe & Multiverse repos installed?
[08:18] <pauldaoust> ubotu: just trying to confuse you ,that's all ^_^
[08:18] <ubotu> pauldaoust: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:18] <_frank> psurani: did you install stuff from debian?
[08:18] <PurpleMotion> psurani:  try: sudo apt-get -f install amule
[08:18] <psurani> Madpilot, yeah
[08:18] <pauldaoust> ubotu: only on Wednesdays.
[08:18] <ubotu> pauldaoust: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:19] <pauldaoust> ubotu: nm
[08:19] <ubotu> pauldaoust: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:19] <Gatton> pauldaoust, having fun? ;)
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[08:19] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[08:19] <i4> is there anyway to gleam someones ip from an instant messenger?
[08:19] <BTJustice> crimsun: No it is not installed.  I ma installing it now.
[08:19] <pauldaoust> my word... I'll quit while I'm behind ^_^
[08:19] <psurani> PurpleMotion, , it didnt helped
[08:19] <brenner> thoreauputic: *thank* you, :)
[08:19] <psurani> not from debian
[08:19] <PurpleMotion> psurani:  dunno then. dont install from debian archives ;)
[08:19] <psurani> i m in ubuntu
[08:19] <_frank> psurani: did you install stuff from non ubuntu repositories?
[08:20] <pauldaoust> Gatton: immense amounts of fun. It's sad, though, because you can't say you're screwing with the bot's mind, because it doesn't have one.
[08:20] <azriel0184> is it possible to get something to run very early in the boot up procedure? (before mounting local file systems)
[08:20] <psurani> yeah
[08:20] <BTJustice> crimsun: Done.
[08:20] <brenner> anyway, too busy for my liking...later
[08:20] <odyssey23> gatton i donno? how do i do that my friend has the ubuntu free version he got posted to him
[08:20] <crimsun> BTJustice: now in the Engine preference for Amarok, make sure you have the gstreamer engine selected
[08:20] <PurpleMotion> odyssey23:  ubuntu is free.
[08:20] <Madpilot> pauldaoust: you can /msg ubotu <whatever> and have fun in private without being kicked from the channel...
[08:20] <Madpilot> odyssey23: Ubuntu is always free.
[08:20] <pauldaoust> Madpilot: okay, okay... I'm sorry; I've just never talked to a bot before so I got a little too excited.
[08:20] <odyssey23> i knw its great.. :")
[08:21] <Gatton> odyssey23, you can download the iso from ubuntulinux.org. I'm assuming that's what you want to do right?
[08:21] <BTJustice> crimsun: The only one there is aRts Engine
[08:21] <jedix> okay
[08:21] <odyssey23> my friend was sent about 10 copies free to disrtubute so i'm going to get that cd off him..
[08:21] <jedix> the install cd can't handle xfs it seems
[08:21] <crimsun> BTJustice: is there a blank selection? The gstreamer engine is mistitled
[08:22] <Gatton> odyssey23, got it. yea they send out free cds. so you don't have it yet?
[08:22] <odyssey23> its on another machine and well wehn i had it on i couldnt get the modem to work... so i put fedora core and that confused me more so i'm going back to ubuntu as i would reslly like to go linux
[08:22] <odyssey23> as microsoft are scammers
[08:22] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, start an editor war
[08:22] <ubotu> kate is better than xemacs
[08:22] <BTJustice> crimsun: I have it on the list now and selected.
[08:22] <crimsun> jedix: in what way? It detected my XFS partitions just fine.
[08:22] <odyssey23> will get it tonight
[08:22] <PurpleMotion> is emacs ever better than anything?
[08:23] <Tom-W> vi
[08:23] <PurpleMotion> I can't imagine it being worse than vi
[08:23] <PurpleMotion> heh
[08:23] <jedix> crimsun: it fails to mount my xfs partitions and throws an oops
[08:23] <Gatton> emacs is better than papyrus and a sharp rock
[08:23] <IronMan_> viw is better
[08:23] <crimsun> jedix: Hoary?
[08:23] <odyssey23> gatton: so is the one you mentioned on that cd?
[08:23] <Tom-W> try Xemacs
[08:23] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: check the syntax of that ubotu command... ;) emacs only appears in the right-and side of the "is better than" line...
[08:23] <jedix> crimsun: I think so
[08:24] <crimsun> BTJustice: ok, now choose customsink, and in it, type: alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[08:24] <PurpleMotion> how do you check the syntax?
[08:24] <Madpilot> !list
[08:24] <ubotu> well, list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:24] <Gatton> odyssey23, depends on how old it is. if he received it recently it should have hoary 5.04 on it which is what most of us are using
[08:24] <i4> would it be strange to have port 631 open on my computer if i do not have a printer installed?
[08:24] <Gatton> it's the latest stable release
[08:24] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: ^^^ it's searchable, just search for editor or something
[08:24] <crimsun> jedix: what does the kernel log say? (alt+F[34] )
[08:24] <odyssey23> and easier to use?
[08:24] <Gatton> odyssey23, 5.04 = april 2005 as you might have guessed
[08:25] <Gatton> odyssey23, i think it's just about the easiest linux i've ever used
[08:25] <Chousuke> i4: not if you have the printer server installed.
[08:25] <odyssey23> ok great...thats my cup of tea lol
[08:25] <Gatton> i was using suse 9.2 before ubuntu and that was a very nice distro also
[08:25] <thoreauputic> i4: no - it's just listening on the loopback interface
[08:25] <Gatton> odyssey23, i hope you don't have any modem issues. i had no hardware troubles at all when i installed. everything worked.
[08:25] <BTJustice> crimsun: I only have osssink, autoaudiosink, gconfaudiosink, and nassink.
[08:25] <Madpilot> odyssey23: the download page is here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[08:25] <odyssey23> if he has an older version do the newer ones (waiting for that in the mail) update automatic?
[08:25] <jedix> crimsun: I just rebooted to try amd64 install
[08:26] <Gatton> i had a few glitches but between the wiki, forums and this channel everything got worked out
[08:26] <jedix> that worked before
[08:26] <thoreauputic> i4: it isn't open from outside, in other words
[08:26] <jedix> but I don't want to run 64
[08:26] <Gatton> odyssey23, not auto but you can upgrade the whole distro i believe
[08:26] <odyssey23> well to be honest i couldnt even work out how to install a modem *blush*
[08:26] <Gatton> odyssey23, understandable. linux isn't always forgiving when things don't work
[08:26] <odyssey23> ok :)
[08:26] <crimsun> BTJustice: you can use gconfaudiosink. Be sure you configure that, though, using gstreamer-properties.
[08:27] <odyssey23> i fell a lil better lol
[08:27] <Gatton> odyssey23, one nice thing is that if you get a hold of the live cd you can test everything before you install
[08:27] <odyssey23> but to give it credit i didnt spend much time with it... got a little "i cant do this" and bummed out too soon :)
[08:27] <BTJustice> crimsun: IF I select that, how do I get to gstreamer-properties?
[08:27] <odyssey23> yeh? that would be much better for me
[08:27] <crimsun> BTJustice: execute it from a Konsole
[08:28] <odyssey23> get warmed to it before i dive in... thats a good idea!:)
[08:28] <Madpilot> be back in a bit, I've got to shut down to plug a hard drive in... first downtime in 10 days... :(
[08:28] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot:  how would i teach it one of those? i try to and it says "What are yout alking about?"
[08:28] <Gatton> odyssey23, yea you can boot the cd and it will detect all your hardware. you can go online etc all running from cd. no installation
[08:28] <Madpilot> odyssey23: some stuff that worked after install didn't work on the LiveCD for me - it's not perfect, but it's very very good
[08:28] <crimsun> BTJustice: ('gnome-media' package)
[08:28] <BTJustice> crimsun: I use Kubuntu with Gnome.
[08:28] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: "ubotu <something> is <blurb about something>"
[08:29] <odyssey23> ohh ok...thanx for that madpilot :")
[08:29] <BTJustice> crimsun: I use Kubuntu without Gnome.
[08:29] <crimsun> BTJustice: otherwise, you can also test using aplay: aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/foo.wav
[08:29] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion:  ubotu <keyword> is <explanation or link>
[08:29] <PurpleMotion> yeah i got that, holdon
[08:29] <odyssey23> thats a reall good idea... ok another question is:
[08:29] <Madpilot> be back in a bit...
[08:30] <odyssey23> my comp is 6 gig HDD, 450mz , pentium II and 205 mb ram... will it work on that?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> odyssey23: yes
[08:30] <odyssey23> (i know stone age size comp lol... all we could afford)
[08:30] <psurani> guys, i lost my sources.list data :( what to do now ?
[08:30] <Gatton> odyssey23, it won't be a speed demon but it will work. ubuntu is one cd install so it's not huge
[08:30] <aeruder> odyssey23: it'll work great
[08:30] <Gatton> odyssey23, i haven't tried it on older hardware but so far what i've heard has been positive
[08:30] <odyssey23> even with the extra packages?
[08:30] <thoreauputic> odyssey23: I got ubuntu installed on a pentium 200mmx 64MB RAM :)
[08:31] <PurpleMotion> !start a distro war
[08:31] <ubotu> hmm... start a distro war is ubuntu is better than suse
[08:31] <Gatton> odyssey23, you mean the extras cd? or packages from apt-get?
[08:31] <PurpleMotion> hrmm
[08:31] <odyssey23> what size HDD?
[08:31] <BTJustice> crimsun: /usr/share/sounds/foo.wav: No such file or directory
[08:31] <PurpleMotion> ill fix it
[08:31] <aeruder> odyssey23: you won't be able to install every package of course
[08:31] <psurani> exit
[08:31] <aeruder> odyssey23: but 6 gigs is more than enough
[08:31] <crimsun> BTJustice: foo is a placeholder for a real filename
[08:31] <Gatton> psurani i will miss you
[08:31] <thoreauputic> odyssey23: that computer has enough space and RAM - it won't be fast but OK
[08:31] <PurpleMotion> !start a distro war
[08:31] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: I don't know
[08:31] <odyssey23> i mean the basics... programs to burn cd's, office, photo upload ummm webdesign
[08:31] <PurpleMotion> damnit
[08:32] <thoreauputic> odyssey23: sure
[08:32] <aeruder> odyssey23: yea, you shouldn't have any problem, might get a bit tight on the disk space depending on how much you use in your home dir
[08:32] <odyssey23> its gotta be better then win98 on a 2 gig and god knows what ram etc lol
[08:32] <azriel0184> is it possible to get something to run very early in the boot up procedure? (before mounting local file systems)
[08:32] <BTJustice> crimsun: It played, but it is really scratchy and poppy
[08:32] <crimsun> azriel0184: where would the data originate, from the initramfs/initrd?
[08:32] <ColonelKernel> anythings better than win98 on a 2g
[08:32] <crimsun> BTJustice: try ALSA 1.0.10rc1, then
[08:33] <odyssey23> yeh tight on space huh?...mmm how come i have all that on a 2 gig with win 98 and still have like a gig left?
[08:33] <crimsun> BTJustice: you'll need to do a cvs checkout of alsa-driver
[08:33] <aeruder> ColonelKernel: when i set up my partitions, i setup winxp, win2k and win98 with 2.5 gig parts
[08:33] <odyssey23> lol my point :P
[08:33] <aeruder> ColonelKernel: it wasn't pretty :)
[08:33] <azriel0184> from /sbin
[08:33] <crimsun> azriel0184: if you haven't mounted /, how are you supposed to grab something from /sbin ?
[08:33] <BTJustice> crimsun: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Live+7.1.&chip=SB0410%2C+P17&module=ca0106
[08:33] <BTJustice> ???
[08:34] <logical_mark> Hey guys. Ubuntu modified my master boot record to use grub as my boot loader. How do I tell grub I want windows xp to start at the end of the countdown and not ubuntu
[08:34] <thoreauputic> !distrowar
[08:34] <ubotu> ubuntu is better than yggdrasil!
[08:34] <PurpleMotion> there
[08:34] <Gatton> bwahahaha
[08:34] <crimsun> BTJustice: what about that?
[08:34] <PurpleMotion> !start a distro war
[08:34] <ubotu> ubuntu rules over suse
[08:34] <Gatton> i like that one
[08:34] <aeruder> logical_mark: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:34] <logical_mark> thanks aeruder
[08:34] <BTJustice> crimsun: Is that how to do it?
[08:34] <pauldaoust> guys, you're totally abusing the bot
[08:34] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  look how i built that
[08:34] <pauldaoust> *sardonic laugh* and you guys said I was gonna get kicked :)
[08:34] <crimsun> BTJustice: I don't know, I'm not at a browser
[08:34] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/?q=war&b=Find+B
[08:34] <BTJustice> crimsun: Ok, thanks for your help.
[08:34] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: I used <reply>
[08:35] <crimsun> BTJustice: you can search the Ubuntu forum for ALSA cvs instructions
[08:35] <odyssey23> aeruder: yeh tight on space huh?...mmm how come i have all that on a 2 gig with win 98 and still have like a gig left?
[08:35] <azriel0184> crimsun, is there a way to run something just after mounting / and before mounting other partitions?
[08:35] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  every time you type it though, it can put something else
[08:35] <aeruder> odyssey23: the win98 one was fine
[08:35] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: right
[08:35] <Gatton> yggdrasil? who is the old timer? ;-)
[08:35] <aeruder> odyssey23: the winxp one was not ;)
[08:35] <crimsun> azriel0184: what are you trying to do?
[08:36] <odyssey23> lol
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Gatton: I was making it diplomatic ;)
[08:36] <logical_mark> that should do it aeruder thanks again
[08:36] <Gatton> thoreauputic, you are way too nice. You know you wanted to put Gentoo instead ;-)
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Gatton: hahahah !
[08:36] <thoreauputic> :D
[08:36] <azriel0184> crimsun, well, md is not making /dev/md0 before it is trying to mount it as my /home
[08:37] <odyssey23> ok guys i'm gonna have to run now.... THANX HEAPS to ALL who helped!!! :")... i'll get back to you prolly 2omoro with the "how'd we go" info ;)
[08:37] <jedix> I really wish I could find my debian cd
[08:37] <azriel0184> so i need to run mdrun to make the devices
[08:37] <Gatton> odyssey23, please come back and let us know how it goes!
[08:37] <crimsun> azriel0184: that's a known problem with the current initramfs config for Breezy -- or are you referring to Hoary?
[08:37] <Ice9> how do I find out what kernel I have?
[08:37] <Gatton> uname -a
[08:37] <odyssey23> yeh for sure you guys are a: friednly plus b: super helpful and c: too ncie :")
[08:37] <crimsun> azriel0184: there's a workaround for Hoary; you can check the forum
[08:38] <odyssey23> friendly even lol
[08:38] <azriel0184> crimsun, i am on hoary
[08:38] <Gatton> must...get...sleep
[08:38] <odyssey23> \ok.. byee all.. :")
[08:38] <Gatton> night for me too
[08:38] <azriel0184> ok, il check the forum. i was having a look around on the wiki, but couldnt find anything... specially since my dialup is not the best for downloading updates on...
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> !start an op war
[08:39] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: I don't know
[08:39] <PurpleMotion> bs
[08:39] <c0rrupt_> Lol
[08:39] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[08:39] <c0rrupt_> is this freenode?
[08:39] <cafuego> !start an op war
[08:39] <ubotu> OPS! cafuego IS ABUSING THE BOT!
[08:40] <lmurillo> hello
[08:40] <cafuego> hey ho
[08:40] <pauldaoust> now that is funny.
[08:40] <PurpleMotion> you rewrote it?
[08:40] <PurpleMotion> i was gonna have it say (any|op) is much cooler than Amaranth
[08:40] <lmurillo> hmm, why doesn't the .xsession that I have in ~ get executed everytime I start my session?
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> !start an op war created by PurpleMotion!n=jay@cpe-24-26-139-222.columbus.res.rr.com on 20 Aug 2005 16:39
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> requested 0 times
 (bob2|Seveas) is much cooler than Amaranth!
[08:41] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> nevermind, ubotu
[08:41] <cafuego> PurpleMotion: That would trigger their  hilight and be irritating
[08:41] <PurpleMotion> oh ok
[08:41] <_c0rrupt_> saslepuss
[08:41] <c0rrupt_> a
[08:41] <_c0rrupt_> a
[08:42] <pauldaoust> crimsun: hm, this is weird... it appears that my (other) machine that I'm having volume control problems with is just using the generic intel-8x0 driver. It's a SiS 760GX mobo, if that helps.
[08:42] <crimsun> pauldaoust: what sort of volume control problems?
[08:43] <nige> ello
[08:43] <Madpilot> am back - stupid hard drive. thank dog it's just an extra I need to clean up & reformat...
[08:43] <pauldaoust> basically the volume has a span of 0 and 100%, without anything in between. I've seen this problem on a few mobos already, including my KT400 mobo.
[08:44] <pauldaoust> crimsun: if I use the volume control applet, for instance, nothing changes until I get down to 0, and then it's silent.
[08:44] <pef> hello
[08:45] <crimsun> pauldaoust: which ac97 codec?
[08:45] <pauldaoust> crimsun: hmmm... one sec
[08:45] <cafuego> a KT400 uses via82cxxx
[08:45] <crimsun> cafuego: for IDE?
[08:45] <pauldaoust> cafuego: sounds familiar. I've got my onboard sound disabled right now, though, so I can't check ^_^
[08:46] <cafuego> crimsun: the sound chip is called the same thing
[08:46] <SavantEdge> laters, and sorry
[08:46] <crimsun> (+ "_audio" for sound)
[08:46] <cafuego> crimsun: via82cxx (ide) and via82cxx_audio (sound)
[08:46] <azriel0184> !forums
[08:46] <No1Viking> !forums
[08:47] <crimsun> depending on the ac97 codec, it may need to use softvol from alsa-lib
[08:47] <pauldaoust> crimsun: there's such a thing?!?!? wow!
[08:47] <odyssey23> lol.... one more question :)
[08:47] <pauldaoust> crimsun: that's exactly what I'm looking for.
[08:47] <odyssey23> which version/type do i need
[08:48] <odyssey23> intel/X86
[08:48] <pauldaoust> crimsun: so exactly where would I find out the codec it's using? would that be the name of the module it's auto-loaded?
[08:48] <crimsun> pauldaoust: yes, it was released as part of alsa-lib 1.0.8. There's documentation (albeit sketchy) on the alsa-lib Web site.
[08:48] <odyssey23> amd 64?
[08:48] <crimsun> pauldaoust: cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:49] <PurpleMotion> how do you add yourself to a workgroupt hat contains spaces in the name?
[08:49] <pauldaoust> crimsun: ah, gotcha. It uses SiS SI7012, but I know that this same codec worked fine with hardware volume on my old mobo. /proc/asound/cards also mentions a CMI9761, however.
[08:50] <psurani> guys, can anyone help, i have unbuntu installed and now i wanna install mandrake 10.1 also, how to configure grub for ubuntu then ? and using which commands ?
[08:50] <odyssey23> sorry guys does anyone know which one i should order the intel/X86 or the AMD64 version of ubuntu?
[08:51] <odyssey23> or powePC?
[08:51] <pauldaoust> odyssey23: why not a couple of each?
[08:51] <crimsun> pauldaoust: the sis7012 is fine and does not need softvol. The cmi9761 does.
[08:51] <stizoner> odyssey23,  whats your computer?
[08:51] <odyssey23> but i dont wonna rip them of kinda thing if the discs will only end up sitting there is that bad?
[08:51] <odyssey23> a compaq deskpro pentuim II, 6gig, 205 ram
[08:51] <crimsun> pauldaoust: alternately, paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl for the computer(s) for which you're having volume problems
[08:52] <pauldaoust> odyssey23: you'll always bump into someone with an AMD64 computer that you can give the CD to. Think of it as Ubuntu evangelism; that's why they're giving the CDs away anyway.
[08:52] <stizoner> intel/X86
[08:52] <odyssey23> ok... thanx guys... your right paul and thanx stizoner :")
[08:53] <nige> i need to setup my startup scipts so that it runs the wpa config
[08:53] <nige> when i start linux
[08:53] <odyssey23> better run have to pick up my lil bro.. running late lol... sure he wont mind the extra fishing time ;)
[08:53] <i4> what is the quickest way to logoff a user o your computer?
[08:53] <nige> welll so it loads the settings in so i dont to get it manuall?
[08:53] <pauldaoust> crimsun: actually, you've helped me out a huge amount. (incidentally, the Hoary CD didn't support my audio chipset out of the box; maybe I should file a bug report)
[08:53] <aeruder> i4: kill their shell
[08:53] <pauldaoust> crimsun: I think I can take it from here... do a bit of research into that whole softvol thingy.
[08:54] <ntldr> is there a hardware monitor similar to MBM5 on windows, that works on debian?
[08:54] <pauldaoust> ntldr: sorta... you can use gkrellm
[08:54] <crimsun> pauldaoust: keep in mind there's also an issue with sis7012 and cmi9761 for versions of ALSA prior to 1.0.9 in which you need to mute 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' to hear anything
[08:55] <ntldr> thanks pauldaoust
[08:55] <pauldaoust> ntldr: xsensors is a very rudimentary sort of thing, and it only monitors your mobo temp/RPM sensors
[08:55] <aeruder> i4: something along the lines of kill -KILL `pgrep -u username`
[08:55] <aeruder> i4: would do the trick nicely ;)
[08:55] <ntldr> aha
[08:55] <pauldaoust> ntldr: but it's a good quick way to check how hot you're running.
[08:55] <aeruder> kill -9 would probably be better
[08:55] <aeruder> some kill versions don't take the name iirc
[08:55] <ntldr> ok, thanks
[08:56] <Madpilot> ntldr: ksensors is a bit nicer that xsensors - but they both need lm-sensors for data
[08:56] <Madpilot> see the forum for setup info
[08:56] <stizoner> anyone know of a 686 optimized build firefox thats a .deb so i can actually install it i think, im trying 2 sqeeze every last bit of performance out of it because its pothetic compaired to windows, yes i disable the ipv6 and turned on pipelining
[08:56] <pauldaoust> crimsun: ohhhh! is that why I couldn't hear anything. I eventually installed Alsa 1.0.9 off my mobo vendor's website, and not without a lot of wrestling with the installation of linux-image et al
[08:56] <pauldaoust> if only I'da known...
[08:56] <i4> aeruder: what if i just wanted to drop a particuliar ssh connection, like if this user was logged in twice?
[08:57] <gjr> cant get firefox to play ram files or display pdf, can anyone lend a hand????
[08:57] <No1Viking> Question: How do I get write permissons to my S-ATA disks containing NTFS?
[08:57] <ntldr> hmm, Intel active monitor installed some SMBus drivers on win. Do I need such drivers in linux too?
[08:58] <aeruder> i4: figure out what their shell is and destroy it ;)
[08:58] <No1Viking> gjr: install ralaudio
[08:58] <thoreauputic> No1Viking: writing to ntfs isn't supported
[08:58] <aeruder> i4: who command will tell you what terminal they are on
[08:58] <No1Viking> gjr: install realaudio
[08:58] <gjr> nolvik: have installed real aud
[08:58] <pauldaoust> ntldr: possibly. but you'll probably be okay just installing the lm-sensors package from the repository
[08:58] <No1Viking> Ok, thank thoreauputic
[08:58] <ntldr> OK
[08:58] <aeruder> ps aux | grep ttyname will get you processes on that tty
[08:58] <gjr> not sure how to get plugins in firefox
[08:59] <TraceGreen> Hello, when i run locale, error:locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:59] <No1Viking> gjr: installed w32codecs?
[08:59] <aeruder> i4: kill their login shell :)
[08:59] <stizoner> same as you do in windows gjr
[08:59] <TraceGreen> can anybody helpme? i try to reinstall glibc but now some problem happen.
[08:59] <Madpilot> ntldr: there are smbus drivers in linux already; lm-sensors includes a setup script to get it all configured
[08:59] <stizoner> wait you said plugins not extensions, nevermind
[08:59] <gjr> never had to in win, browser realized it needed them and installed them
[08:59] <pauldaoust> ntldr: see, Madpilot knows what he's talking about... more than I do, anyway
[09:00] <ntldr> thanks to both of you :)
[09:00] <cyphase> :)
[09:00] <cyphase> wow
[09:00] <gjr> nolvik: yes codecs installed
[09:00] <cyphase> wow
[09:00] <cyphase> wow
[09:00] <cyphase> wow
[09:00] <cyphase> wow
[09:00] <cyphase> ok
[09:00] <c0rrupt_> wow
[09:00] <c0rrupt_> stufu
[09:00] <cyphase> :)
[09:00] <c0rrupt_> =)
[09:00] <No1Viking> gjr: then  I have no idea
[09:00] <cyphase> it's great though
[09:00] <cyphase> i haven't even finished yet
[09:00] <No1Viking> sorry
[09:00] <Madpilot> ntldr: no problem - I'm just searching the Ubuntu forums for the howto I used to get my sensors running & displayed
[09:00] <aeruder> Madpilot: run sensors-detect
[09:00] <gjr> nolvik: that s ok, know how it is.
[09:01] <stizoner> porn codecs should be easyier to install then they are
[09:01] <c0rrupt_> Lol
[09:01] <stizoner> woops i mean wincodecs*
[09:01] <gjr> any1 else???
[09:01] <c0rrupt_> hah
[09:01] <aeruder> follow the instructions and then  get a sensors program
[09:01] <c0rrupt_> apt-get install pr0n
[09:01] <Madpilot> aeruder: thanks, that's what I was trying to think of...
[09:01] <aeruder> i'd recommend gkrellm
[09:01] <c0rrupt_> apt-get install porn-essentials
[09:01] <ntldr> lol
[09:02] <No1Viking> LOL
[09:02] <thoreauputic> !info pornview
[09:02] <ubotu> pornview: (Image and movie viewer/manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.2pre1-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 224 kB, Installed size: 676 kB
[09:02] <thoreauputic> :D
[09:02] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[09:02] <gjr> QUESTION: cant get firefox to play ram files or display pdf, can anyone lend a hand????
[09:02] <c0rrupt_> =-o
[09:02] <aeruder> c0rrupt_: http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~ja2morri/porn-get/ -- .deb's there
[09:02] <stizoner> i have 500gb download stats on empornium bittorrent site, i have issues
[09:02] <aeruder> ;)
[09:02] <c0rrupt_> lmfao
[09:02] <robotgeek> gjr: i use evince for pdf display, works wonderfully well...reading a pdf within browser as i speak
[09:03] <cyphase> anyone here tried breezy colony 3 yet?
[09:03] <c0rrupt_> i already fucked over apt-get once
[09:03] <aeruder> c0rrupt_: nah, porn-get is just a hack someone threw together to download porn
[09:03] <c0rrupt_> lol
[09:03] <aeruder> basically big set of urls and you can download them with porn-get ;)
[09:03] <gjr> robot: is evince installed by deflt?  I can read pdf from the desktop.
[09:03] <c0rrupt_> oh
[09:03] <c0rrupt_> lmao
[09:03] <aeruder> c0rrupt_: one sec
[09:04] <bronco> how can I modify xorg.conf when I'm just in the command prompt?
[09:04] <robotgeek> gjr: nope, u'll have to install evince . and please use my full name, it doesn't hilight otherwise!
[09:04] <cyphase> no one? hmm..
[09:04] <aeruder> http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ -- c0rrupt_ that is the main site
[09:04] <i4> can someone tell me what pts/1,2,3, etc are?
[09:04] <esc_ape> ok dumb question...how do you disable the fade effect when you minimize windows?
[09:04] <MrGardenHoseMan> bronco: pico xorg.conf
[09:04] <gjr> robotgeek: ok I will give evince a try, is it in the deflt repo's?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> bronco: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:04] <aeruder> i4: psuedo terminals
[09:05] <c0rrupt_> no config file
[09:05] <robotgeek> !info evince
[09:05] <stizoner> wtf, lol @ lesbian debian
[09:05] <ubotu> evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[09:05] <robotgeek> gjr: it's in universe
[09:05] <aeruder> i4: they are created by programs like sshd, screen, etc...
[09:05] <i4> aeruder: how do i find out what their process or job id's are?
[09:05] <aeruder> i4: i told you ps aux | grep pts/5
[09:05] <cyphase> evince is good
[09:05] <gjr> robotgeek: thx will give it a try.  Any id on ram files???
[09:05] <aeruder> i4: that will tell you what programs are running on that tty
[09:05] <TraceGreen> Hello, can anybody help me? when i run locale: locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[09:05] <Madpilot> Evince is much nicer than xpdf...
[09:06] <robotgeek> gjr: i dont use realplayer much, sorry
[09:06] <TraceGreen> Because i try to reinstall libc6
[09:06] <Madpilot> gjr: Real Media? w32codecs
[09:06] <Madpilot> !info w32codec
[09:06] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: that sounded like an ubotu !start a pdf viewer war  ;)
[09:06] <gjr> madpilot: have w32 codecs, but ffx wont play, can play files if I have them on mac
[09:06] <aeruder> i'm guessing i4 just killed his own login shell
[09:06] <aeruder> heh
[09:07] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: what's to war about? Evince is a fair bit more polished... ;)
[09:07] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: good idea for a new command for ubotu, though! :)
[09:07] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: I like xpdf! let's have a war!
[09:07] <thoreauputic> ;)
[09:08] <h08817> how do u install macromedia flash player for firefox?
[09:08] <aeruder> h08817: click the little missing plugin box that pops down and click install
[09:08] <thoreauputic> !flash
[09:08] <ubotu> flash is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:08] <stizoner> oh thats a scam porn-get is no longer maintained
[09:09] <gjr> aeruder: what if no little plug in box comes up when plugin is missing?
[09:09] <h08817> aeruder, i tried that and it says it is doing it but no progress is showing
[09:09] <aeruder> gjr: uh, i've never had a problem with that
[09:09] <Madpilot> ubotu tell gjr about flash
[09:09] <dale_gribble> mine does the same thing
[09:10] <gjr> aeruder:  have that issue with ram and pdf - installing evince right now
[09:10] <aeruder> pdfs aren't embedded into webpages
[09:10] <aeruder> there's a difference ;)
[09:11] <gjr> aeruder:  ahh -still thought there was a pdf plug-in.  What about ram files?
[09:11] <aeruder> gjr: depends how they are linked
[09:11] <h08817> well i just tried that link
[09:12] <aeruder> having a plugin being available does not in any way mean that it is necessary
[09:12] <h08817> will it work in firefox now
[09:12] <gjr> aeruder:  such as?
[09:12] <gjr> aeruder:  how can I tell how it is linked?
[09:12] <aeruder> gjr: whether it is a straight link or actually embedded into the webpage (in a correct manner)
[09:13] <thechitowncubss> My ubuntu desktop just locked up and i can still move the mouse, what does that mean.
[09:13] <thechitowncubss> I can't CTRL F2 or CTRL ALT BKSP or anything
[09:13] <stizoner> mine just did that lil bit ago, pull the power
[09:13] <thechitowncubss> any advice?
[09:13] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: i'm guessing that means that you're hosed :)
[09:13] <h08817> hey i got this after i installed it
[09:14] <robotgeek> thechitowncubss: just switch to a console if that's possible
[09:14] <thechitowncubss> i thought linux wasn't ever supposed to completely shit out
[09:14] <thechitowncubss> isnt it _stable_?
[09:14] <i4> is anyone else haviong trouble with backports?
[09:14] <h08817> install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[09:14] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: X is remarkably good at making linux crap out on some video cards
[09:14] <h08817> how do i extract it and install it?
[09:14] <thechitowncubss> god damnit
[09:14] <f_newton> bob2 are you for real or a bot?
[09:14] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: the linux kernel is quite stable
[09:14] <Madpilot> thechitowncubss: you can still move your mouse and use your keyboard, right? Windows would already be locked up hard!
[09:14] <gjr> aeruder:  how can I tell how it is linked?  shows up as https://..../file.ram
[09:14] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubss: it's X that's frozen - if you can ssh in you might be able to kill it
[09:14] <ntldr> would ksensors run on gnome?
[09:15] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: try sshing to your box
[09:15] <thoreauputic> yup
[09:15] <Madpilot> ntldr: of course. I'm running it right now
[09:15] <ntldr> ok
[09:15] <thechitowncubss> what process should i kill?
[09:15] <aeruder> X
[09:15] <f_newton> thoreauputic, you probably would know... why is there a user acct on every installation of ubuntu Ive done with an unknown password ?
[09:15] <aeruder> killall -KILL X
[09:16] <thechitowncubss> yipee
[09:16] <aeruder> or something like that :)
[09:16] <thechitowncubss> now what lol
[09:16] <thoreauputic> f_newton: erm...unknown password?
[09:16] <f_newton> acct = nobody passwd = unknown
[09:16] <Madpilot> thechitowncubss: startx I'm pretty sure - to restart X
[09:16] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: linux still has problems with X drivers since of course the drivers have full access to the hardware
[09:16] <thoreauputic> f_newton: ah - don't worry about that it's normal :)
[09:17] <f_newton> yeah well what is it?
[09:17] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: you can be sure that the base linux kernel is pretty much stable as a rock
[09:17] <thoreauputic> f_newton: some things have to run as "nobody"
[09:17] <aeruder> but if you were really going for stability, you wouldn't be using X ;)
[09:17] <thechitowncubss> well what the hell is wrong with X?
[09:17] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: what?
[09:17] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: first off, what video card are you using?
[09:17] <xliu__> i installed gnome first and then installed KDE. However, some Chinese characters which are displayed correctly in gnome are shown as periods ".", what's wrong?
[09:17] <f_newton> if users can sudo in to root with their user password who is nobody and what are the privileges?
[09:17] <thechitowncubss> Nvidia 5600
[09:17] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: nvidia?
[09:17] <aeruder> well, those are closed source drivers
[09:17] <aeruder> X has no control what the heck those things are doing
[09:18] <thechitowncubss> oh so its the drivers problem?
[09:18] <thoreauputic> f_newton: "nobody" is just a construct - not an actual user
[09:18] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: so more than likely you can take it up with nvidia, that's the price you pay for using non open source drivers
[09:18] <h08817> what is the command to extract something?
[09:18] <Madpilot> f_newton: I think user "nobody" has no privs at all - but I'm not certain
[09:18] <aeruder> thechitowncubss: a kernel hacker wouldn't even consider your problem a problem
[09:18] <h08817> if it is a .tar
[09:18] <f_newton> ok it cannot be exploited by an outside individual?
[09:18] <cyphase> wow..
[09:18] <thoreauputic> f_newton: and only the first user has sudo powers by default
[09:18] <aeruder> loading a closed source driver means that your kernel is "tainted" and will show up as thus in the logs
[09:18] <h08817> .tar.gz
[09:18] <cyphase> synaptic is slower if the downloading window isn't focused
[09:18] <f_newton> ok thanks
[09:18] <f_newton> that puts me at ease
[09:18] <h08817> !extract
[09:18] <ubotu> Wish i knew, h08817
[09:18] <cyphase> therefore not hogging bandwidth
[09:19] <aeruder> and at that point, you have no idea what is running in your system and can be totally fscking it over
[09:19] <f_newton> so deleting it would NOT be a good idea?
[09:19] <h08817> !archive
[09:19] <ubotu> h08817: Are you smoking crack?
[09:19] <ORiON2012> f_newton: nobody has no shell and therefore cannot execute commands, I'm sure the super-hacker could change that though
[09:19] <i4> im too bizzu, dizzy to get my beer
[09:19] <aeruder> gjr: view page source would do it ;)
[09:20] <aeruder> gjr: but if you are linked directly to a .arm
[09:20] <aeruder> that once again would not fall in any way under the realm of requiring a plugin
[09:20] <h08817> !extract
[09:20] <ubotu> h08817: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:20] <f_newton> no I just dont want some childish l337 head reeking havoc on my box because his fragile sense of self worth appeared threatened...
[09:20] <thoreauputic> f_newton: rule of thumb: if you don't knowwhat it is, don't delete it!
[09:20] <f_newton> yeah
[09:20] <h08817> how do u extract an archive?
[09:20] <aeruder> if it was embedded into a webpage using the embed tag, then it would fall under the realm of requiring a plugin and firefox would alert you as thus
[09:20] <aeruder> h08817: tar zxf
[09:21] <thechitowncubss> h08817: right click on it
[09:21] <gjr> aeruder:  link shows https://..../file.ram, but i dont have a save link as option?
[09:21] <ORiON2012> f_newton: love the outlook
[09:21] <h08817> what is zxf
[09:21] <f_newton> been around a while ORiON2012 `
[09:21] <aeruder> gjr: why not wget it ?
[09:21] <aeruder> gjr: or just save page as
[09:21] <aeruder> if they are linking you to a .ram file and firefox isn't offering to download it
[09:21] <aeruder> that means they messed up their mime types on the server
[09:21] <cyphase> start talking about breezy damnit!
[09:21] <cyphase> ;)
[09:21] <ORiON2012> f_newton: no, I'm a total noob, compared to some of the folks in here
[09:21] <n1xt3r> h08817: zip extract force - read the man pages
[09:21] <h08817> ok
[09:22] <f_newton> no no I meant Ive been around a while.
[09:22] <aeruder> which is often the case with people that mainly cater to internet explorer (internet explorer more or less ignores mime types)
[09:22] <ORiON2012> f_newton: ah, I see
[09:22] <robotgeek> cyphase: no breezy for me yet!
[09:22] <cyphase> has anyone tried colony 3?
[09:22] <aeruder> cyphase: i'm attempting hoary => breezy
[09:22] <gjr> aeruder:  i am sure that is an issue, they are an m$ shop
[09:22] <linuxboy> whats the standard solitare called in AisleRiot ?
[09:22] <f_newton> I know how easy it is to upset some ... person who believes they are the end all guru and protector of linux
[09:22] <aeruder> gjr: if you wget it, it will tell you the mime type
[09:23] <aeruder> gjr: i'm sure it woudl also be in right click page properties
[09:23] <cyphase> aeruder, you know breezy is still in alpha, right?
[09:23] <f_newton> usually they are very bright, young, and irresponsible
[09:23] <h08817> sweet flash works
[09:23] <f_newton> and hang out in debian rooms
[09:23] <f_newton> ...
[09:23] <ORiON2012> f_newton: too bright, as for responsible.... only if they get caught
[09:24] <f_newton> mommy or daddy buys them out of any trouble
[09:24] <aeruder> cyphase: sure, i can deal with it
[09:24] <f_newton> but I wax eloquent
[09:24] <f_newton> thanks thoreauputic for the information
[09:24] <aeruder> as soon as i work out some packaging booboos with the python stuff :)
[09:24] <f_newton> I wont delete it then
[09:24] <thoreauputic> f_newton: no worries :)
[09:26] <gue> hello
[09:26] <jedistar> Hi, just installed ubuntu and I am just getting a screen refresh rate of 60hz
[09:26] <ORiON2012> cyphase: are you running breezy?
[09:26] <alie> hi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive
[09:26] <ntldr> I installed lm-sensors and ksensors
[09:26] <karol_18> hola
[09:26] <jedistar> I had up to 100hz on win
[09:26] <ntldr> how do I config lm-sensors
[09:26] <karol_18> como estan
[09:26] <cyphase> ORiON2012, on my dev machine
[09:26] <alie> i have a fat partition and some gb of free space
[09:26] <Madpilot> !fixrez
[09:26] <ubotu> Madpilot: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:26] <karol_18> que me cuentan
[09:26] <cyphase> i'm accessing it through VNC
[09:26] <Madpilot> fixres
[09:26] <karol_18> alguien me envia privado
[09:26] <Madpilot> !fixres
[09:26] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:27] <ntldr> a howto sent me to source dir which i don't have
[09:27] <thoreauputic> linuxboy:  sol
[09:27] <ORiON2012> cyphase: other than xorg, have you had any major issues?
[09:27] <gue> can anyone help me
[09:27] <karol_18> fuck off
[09:27] <Madpilot> jedistar: see right above, where ubotu posted the URL? ^^^
[09:27] <cyphase> ORiON2012, what's your xorg problem
[09:27] <linuxboy> thoreauputic: its not in the list
[09:27] <robotgeek> karol_18: language please
[09:27] <karol_18> spanish
[09:27] <thoreauputic> linuxboy: sorry I thought you meant the command to start it
[09:27] <robotgeek> ubotu tell karol_18 about conduct
[09:28] <ORiON2012> cyphase: none, breezy's been stable as a rock for me except for very minor xlibmesa issues, I was just curious.
[09:28] <linuxboy> no, which game is the standard solitare game?
[09:28] <alie> hi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive i have a fat partition and some gb of free space
[09:28] <gjr> aeruder:  1 more for you - how do I get realplayer to come up as the selected player rather than totem?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> linuxboy: there's a whole set of alternatives - maybe you mean klondike?
[09:28] <karol_18> where are you from???
[09:28] <linuxboy> thoreauputic: yes!
[09:28] <aeruder> gjr: in firefox?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:29] <aeruder> gjr: that's probably some gnome setting, i'm not sure how you go about that
[09:29] <aeruder> not much of a gnome user
[09:29] <gjr> aeruder:  yes, on that link it pops a box and suggests totem.  Had to find bin in /usr/bin
[09:30] <alie> hi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive i have a fat partition and some gb of free space
[09:30] <gjr> aeruder:  this mac is for someone not all that compliterate, trying to get all main functions working.
[09:30] <alie> hi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive i have a fat partition and some gb of free space
[09:30] <aeruder> gjr: i'm a bit unable to help right now
[09:30] <robotgeek> gjr: what are you trying to get working?
[09:31] <aeruder> my breezy upgrade has left my shell incapable of starting
[09:31] <aeruder> so i'm preserving the few shells i have open ;)
[09:31] <alie> hi how to install ubuntu from my hard drive i have a fat partition and some gb of free space
[09:31] <aeruder> heh
[09:31] <gjr> aeruder: no prob, thanks for your help.
[09:31] <jedistar> Madpilot, I went to the webpage you pointed out to me earlier..it asked to run a command
[09:31] <Madpilot> jedistar: sorry, which webpage?
[09:31] <jedistar> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:31] <gjr> robotgeek:  I am trying to get realplay to be deflt offered when box pops to play ram files in ffx.
[09:32] <jedistar> just was not sure how to run a command
[09:32] <cjnodell> hello, i have a question about totem, can someone help me?
[09:32] <gjr> robotgeek:  right now is totem.
[09:32] <jedistar> lol, feel like I have started learning computers
[09:32] <robotgeek> so, you are actually running ubuntu on ppc
[09:32] <thoreauputic> gjr: I seem to recall you can type the path in (in the FF dialogue box)
[09:32] <Madpilot> jedistar: you need to open a terminal - you're running Hoary (5.04)?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> gjr: and make it default
[09:32] <thenuke> cjnodell: always get to the point straightly, no one knows if they can help you
[09:33] <jedistar> hmm, whats hoary?
[09:33] <Madpilot> jedistar: Applications menu --> System Tools --> Terminal
[09:33] <robotgeek> gjr: have you installed real player? the ppc version?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> jedistar: current stable ubuntu ( 5.04)
[09:33] <gjr> thoreauputic: nice try, but no deflt selection was offered, only totem. :-P to the path suggestion, did that!
[09:34] <jedistar> ok, I have the blinking cursor up
[09:34] <thoreauputic> gjr: I know I typed it in - there *is* a way <grin>
[09:34] <gjr> robotgeek:  using ubuntu on HP laptop - intel, yes have realplay 10 installed
[09:34] <jedistar> do I just paste the script in there and hit enter?
[09:34] <aeruder> jedistar: you tend to remember more if you type it ;)
[09:34] <aeruder> jedistar: but yea
[09:34] <robotgeek> gjr: okay..i got confused, i though you were trying to get it to work on a ppc
[09:34] <Madpilot> jedistar: each line on the FixVideo page is a seperate command
[09:35] <cjnodell> k, I am trying to play avi's and encrypted DVD's with totem. I have looked throught the wiki, and a few other sources, and downloaded a bunch of codecs and so on. I also turned dma on. but whenever i play a dvd or avi in totem, it is slow and jerky (i havent tried other formats yet).. how can i fix this
[09:35] <robotgeek> cjnodell: try using vlc
[09:35] <Madpilot> jedistar: sorry, meant each line in the greyish boxes
[09:35] <newman> cjnodell: or try using mplayer with the codec pack
[09:35] <cjnodell> what is vlc?
[09:35] <cjnodell> I will try mplayer
[09:36] <thoreauputic> gjr:  edit - prefs - downloads - "always perform this action... " something like that
[09:36] <robotgeek> ubotu tell cjnodell about vlc
[09:36] <No1Viking> In  your opinion, whats the best desktop environment systems, eg gnome, kde etc?
[09:36] <newman> cjnodell: you can get a complete codec pack to go with it that should have all the codecs you need for video files
[09:37] <gjr> thoreauputic: tried that initially, but there was no add selection for that box to place ra type in.  Just did download again and got it to work.  I guess doing 1st time, it continues to by deflt
[09:37] <newman> if you are new to linux, i think KDE is the best bet for user friendliness and attractiveness, after enough linux usage many people prefer blackbox or fluxbox however because they are much faster and many people usually use the terminal most
[09:38] <thoreauputic> gjr: ah ,,,
[09:38] <sampoo> does anyone know how to open a .sh file?
[09:38] <gjr> thoreauputic: thx for help
[09:38] <esc_ape> what advantages do blackbox & fluxbox have?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> sampoo: you don't - you run it
[09:38] <aeruder> sampoo: to run one you generally do sh blah.sh
[09:38] <aeruder> if you want to view it (it is a scrpit)
[09:38] <sampoo> okay i'll try
[09:38] <aeruder> use vi or your favorite text editor
[09:38] <thoreauputic> gjr: no problem :)
[09:39] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: vlc is an excellent media player that has added streaiming capabillities
[09:39] <ORiON2012> streaming*
[09:39] <newman> esc_ape: they are much simpler and on slower machines with less memory they run MUCH faster, and they don't bloat the sysytem with extra programs, jsut simple access to things like the internet and terminals
[09:39] <jtan325> newman, what do you use
[09:39] <esc_ape> ok thanks
[09:39] <esc_ape> so far I like gnome - I dont think I'd want kde again
[09:40] <sampoo> aeruder: thanks alot
[09:40] <newman> jtan325: i usually do my linux work in blackbox, however sometimes when i want a full multimedia PC and it is good enough i run KDE
[09:40] <jtan325> can't believe there are still blackbox users
[09:40] <jtan325> lol
[09:40] <robotgeek> jtan325: why not?
[09:40] <aeruder> why?
[09:40] <ORiON2012> newman: I use KDE, but for initial windows converts, these KDE menu's can be hell
[09:40] <jtan325> i used fluxbox/openbox for the past few months
[09:40] <jtan325> then switched to fvwm
[09:40] <cjnodell> i see. is vlc available through synaptic?
[09:40] <jtan325> fvwm has configurability like no other
[09:40] <newman> esc_ape: gnome is nice because it is sort of a middle ground, not too bloated but still easy to use
[09:40] <cyphase> if breezy - 2 months is where it's at, 6.04 is going to be..
[09:40] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: yes
[09:40] <robotgeek> jtan325: i use openbox with gnome..middle ground!
[09:41] <aeruder> jtan325: blackbox works and is quite stable/fast ;)
[09:41] <cyphase> wowza
[09:41] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: just apt-get vlc
[09:41] <newman> ORiON2012: very true, they can be confusing but they are probably easier than trying to learn fluxbox :)
[09:41] <cjnodell> K, ill give both vlc and mplayer a shot. I am guessing that there is no way to fix totem?
[09:42] <ORiON2012> newman: flux will always have a place in my favorite category, gnome seems so "simple" though
[09:42] <jtan325> gnome isn't a window manager guys
[09:42] <thoreauputic> cjnodell: install totem-xine
[09:42] <jtan325> metacity is the default gnome wm
[09:42] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: have you tried totem-xine?
[09:42] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: totem-gstreamer seems to cause problems for many
[09:42] <newman> jtan325: granted, but for ease of use w/ unfamiliar people gnome usually suffices as opposed to metacity or enlightenment
[09:43] <jtan325> wait...
[09:43] <aeruder> newman: gnome isn't a windowmanager, metacity is :)
[09:43] <jtan325> gnome isn't a wm
[09:43] <jtan325> exactly
[09:43] <newman> yes
[09:43] <aeruder> newman: gnome uses metacity by default
[09:43] <jtan325> exactly
[09:43] <robotgeek> and that's why u can use openbox instead of metacity
[09:43] <ORiON2012> jtan325: DE, yes yes, it's still very easy for newcommers
[09:43] <newman> or you can use enlightenment
[09:43] <robotgeek> too slow for me!
[09:44] <newman> very true
[09:44] <newman> i have not tried openbox on gnome.....worth a shot i guess
[09:44] <cjnodell> i havent tried totem-xine, but have tried kafeen-xine in kubuntu, i had the same problems as i do with totem-gstreamer
[09:44] <jtan325> openbox is super simple
[09:44] <jtan325> and very minimalistic
[09:44] <jtan325> so perfect for terminal folks
[09:44] <Flying-Penguin> how do you mount iso?
[09:45] <aeruder> mount -o loop blah.iso /mnt/mountplace
[09:45] <ORiON2012> jtan325: I like ob3 for it's wonderful dynamic menus
[09:45] <Flying-Penguin> hmm... why does my xmms freeze ALL THE TIME?
[09:45] <jtan325> yeah
[09:45] <jtan325> fvwm has that too
[09:45] <aeruder> -t iso#### is nice to, but i can't remember the name and the breezy "upgrade" has currently left me with one surviving shell so i can't look it up, heh
[09:45] <jtan325> i can load a video from my menu
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Flying-Penguin: try setting the output plugin to esound
[09:46] <jtan325> without having to open slow-as-hell nautilus
[09:46] <gentoo_junkie> being in 4 forums makes things way to spammy....
[09:46] <robotgeek> jtan325: how do do do that?
[09:46] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: xmms is very bad for high cpu loads
[09:46] <robotgeek> !lart gentoo_junkie
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Flying-Penguin: in xmms: options -prefs - plugins or similar
[09:46] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: i finally gave up and started using music123 (simple wrapper around ogg123 and mpg123) for my musicing
[09:46] <ORiON2012> gentoo_junkie: wrong chan :P  but gentoo's sweet, don't be offended
[09:46] <gentoo_junkie> rm -rf
[09:47] <gentoo_junkie> hehe
[09:47] <robotgeek> aeruder: did u try bmp?
[09:47] <ORiON2012> have it on my server
[09:47] <gentoo_junkie> i just monitor all these forums for some reason.
[09:47] <robotgeek> gentoo_junkie: welcome
[09:47] <Nathanial> Having a bit of a problem..
[09:47] <gentoo_junkie> robotgeek: thanks ubuntu was my first distro.
[09:47] <shadd> hi everybody
[09:47] <ORiON2012> Nathanial: shoot...
[09:47] <aeruder> robotgeek: same code base, not much better
[09:47] <newman> i forgot how to change the wm running on gdm....any help?
[09:47] <gentoo_junkie> shadd:hi
[09:47] <thoreauputic> !distrowar
[09:47] <Flying-Penguin> ok... and last question... is there some kind of a work around for using cds for games in linux... like a virtual cd program... cd emulation or such?
[09:47] <ubotu> kubuntu is better than sls !!
[09:47] <aeruder> robotgeek: although i greatly prefer bmp to xmms
[09:47] <zaofreek> gentoo_junkie, i actually went from gentoo to ubuntu
[09:47] <jtan325> robotgeek, what's your question?
[09:48] <Nathanial> I install Apache and try to install either PHP3 or PHP4, and my server still wont show PHP files, it is coming up for a download when I visit my forum setup
[09:48] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: are you using cedega?
[09:48] <robotgeek> jtan325: dynamic menus?
[09:48] <shadd> anyboddy for VERLIHUB help here? there's no other room for that around...
[09:48] <Madpilot> !lamp
[09:48] <ubotu> well, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:48] <zerboxx> acpi is telling my my battery is "on-line" how can I change what it tells me?
[09:48] <gentoo_junkie> zaofreek: i liked both i just happened to progress the opposite way of you hehe.
[09:48] <Madpilot> Nathanial: see ubotu's URL ^^^
[09:48] <jtan325> robotgeek, are you using fvwm>
[09:48] <jtan325> ?
[09:48] <robotgeek> aeruder: bmp works better than xmms for me, doesn't skip that much
[09:48] <aeruder> robotgeek: they just aren't designed very well, if you look around in the linux kernel mailing lists, you'll find a lot of attacks on people complaining that xmms skips alot and it was pretty unanimous that xmms just isn't designed very well for high cpu loads ;)
[09:48] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: yes I use cedega
[09:48] <aeruder> robotgeek: yea, it doesn't skip as much, but it still skips
[09:48] <robotgeek> jtan325: i tht it was in openbox..doh!
[09:48] <aeruder> robotgeek: i greatly prefer the gtk2 interface tho
[09:48] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: some cd-cracks work with cedega
[09:49] <robotgeek> aeruder: every player has skipped for me, i dunno why..even cli based ones
[09:49] <Nathanial> thanks guys :)
[09:49] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: if you're farmiliar with using them in Windows...
[09:49] <aeruder> robotgeek: it depends on a lot of factors, but the command line ones generally do much better for me
[09:49] <shadd> i'm a former win user and wish to get my hub going on linux
[09:49] <Madpilot> I've never heard Muine skip, even with something blowing CPU use up to 100%...
[09:49] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: I don't use cd-cracks, thats not what I ment I ment a way to have the cd in without a real cd
[09:49] <aeruder> muine is excellent
[09:49] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: as in, so I can play online
[09:50] <robotgeek> aeruder: nope, muine skips too..a lot!
[09:50] <aeruder> i stopped using it when the ubuntu package broke a long time ago tho ;)
[09:50] <shadd> *this is too crowddy in here...*
[09:50] <aeruder> robotgeek: what card?
[09:50] <robotgeek> aeruder: i heard a lot abt it, and compiled my own, after filing a bug for incomplete compile.
[09:51] <shadd> <--- go have some fresh air...
[09:51] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: I don't understand how the CP protection would be able to function without either a real CD or a crack
[09:51] <robotgeek> aeruder: on a powerbook g4, awacs i guess
[09:51] <aeruder> robotgeek: ah, yea, i don't know anything about the powerbook stuff, could just be flaky drivers
[09:51] <aeruder> robotgeek: i'm using sb live drivers
[09:51] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: at least for BF42 and a few other games, I either have to have the cd in, or a crack
[09:51] <robotgeek> aeruder: pretty old card, it's a 2001 machine
[09:52] <aeruder> robotgeek: yea, but sometimes it is driver issues too when there is not completely documentation
[09:52] <Myrtti> ok, I managed to phuk things up pretty badly
[09:52] <gentoo_junkie> anyone mud anymore ?
[09:52] <cjnodell> how can i enable the sound in VLC?
[09:52] <Ice9> !ati
[09:52] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:52] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: in windows there are programs that trick your computer into thinking there are more cd drives than there realy are, then you can build virtual cd images (700mb each) and incert them into the fake cd drive
[09:53] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: are you using th GTK+ interface?
[09:53] <robotgeek> aeruder: if i remember right, they worked fine under ydl..so, hmmm
[09:53] <cjnodell> i belive so
[09:53] <cjnodell> the menu entry says VLC gtk+
[09:53] <ishit> plz anyone can help me wit openoffice presentation. it does not open
[09:53] <zaofreek> i definitely read that as "sound in VNC"
[09:54] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: should be able to go to settings, enable advanced options, then scroll down to audio output and select your sound system (ALSA, OSS, etc.)
[09:54] <cjnodell> k, i will give it a try.
[09:54] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: by the nature of linux, i would imagine that if you mount it to where you normally would mount /dev/cdrom or whatnot, you will find the games will take it fine
[09:54] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: things like daemon tools or Alcohol 120% that emulate CD protections simply don't exists in Linux as far as I know
[09:54] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: that would be my guess
[09:54] <Myrtti> I tried to format my usb thumbdrive and managed to phuk things up so that I don't have /dev/sda's no more. /var/log/syslog doesn't mention usb
[09:54] <Myrtti> help.
[09:55] <ishit> anyone can help me wit oppenoffice
[09:55] <ishit> ???
[09:55] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: but yea, the funky cd protection stufff... you are out of luck on taht porbably
[09:55] <aeruder> ishit: ask your question, don't ask to ask
[09:55] <aeruder> Myrtti: unplug, plugin again?
[09:55] <Myrtti> nothing
[09:56] <Flying-Penguin> aeruder: what if I where to mount a shared cd drive into my /media/cd.....
[09:56] <ishit> aeruder openoffice jus does not open
[09:56] <aeruder> dmesg | tail shows nothing about usb?
[09:56] <Myrtti> even the light on it wont light up
[09:56] <aeruder> and don't paste it in here
[09:56] <robotgeek> Myrtti: is there a possibility of the USB stick gone kaput...happens often
[09:56] <ishit> aeruder: openoffice jus does not open
[09:56] <aeruder> Myrtti: well, that sounds like either a.) your usb drive is screwed b.) you don't have usb drivers loaded c.) your usb drivers have crashed
[09:57] <Myrtti> robotgeek: sure it is, but I'd like to be sure before I throw it away
[09:57] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: yea, prolly
[09:57] <robotgeek> Myrtti: test it on another machine is the best i can come up with
[09:57] <Flying-Penguin> aeruder: how would I do that?
[09:57] <ishit> does a usb stick load automatically on ubuntu
[09:57] <Nathanial> PHP still isn't working
[09:57] <Myrtti> aeruder: nothing, only about eth0
[09:57] <aeruder> Myrtti: try another computer or look through dmesg for something
[09:57] <Myrtti> yup
[09:57] <Nathanial> I'm getting a download =\
[09:57] <aeruder> Myrtti: yea, ok
[09:57] <Nathanial> it should be a forum installer page
[09:57] <aeruder> Myrtti: just try another computer, it may be dead
[09:58] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: i gave you the mount command up there
[09:58] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: change the mount directory
[09:58] <Madpilot> Nathanial: I got PHP4 working just fine on this box - follow these directions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:58] <ntldr> I got ksensors working \o/
[09:58] <Flying-Penguin> aeruder: I know what the mount command is... but I don't think I can put in smb://bill/etc...
[09:58] <Myrtti> goddammit, the other computer doesn't have USB
[09:58] <ntldr> thanks guys
[09:58] <Myrtti> arh
[09:58] <Madpilot> ntldr: cool
[09:58] <robotgeek> Myrtti: you have an weekend ahead of you :)
[09:58] <ORiON2012> Nathanial: It sounds like either mod_php (if running apache) isn't loaded, or you didn't set the .php handler correctly
[09:58] <cjnodell> I have set the video output to ALSA, but still no sound
[09:59] <cjnodell> in VLC
[09:59] <ntldr> it's weird that case fans shows half of real speed
[09:59] <aeruder> Flying-Penguin: you'll need the iso on your machine, or mounting loopback off of the samba share may work
[09:59] <Myrtti> robotgeek: this wasn't exactly what I planned to do on it :-(
[09:59] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: ALSA is for audio
[09:59] <ntldr> how do I fix that
[09:59] <ntldr> ?
[09:59] <aeruder> not sure if samba has that capability, some network filesystems do not
[09:59] <crimsun> cjnodell: did you install vlc-alsa?
[09:59] <ORiON2012> cjnodell: are you running a sound daemon like arts or esd?
[10:00] <aeruder> ntldr: that's something you have to fix with your sensors program
[10:00] <aeruder> ntldr: more than likely
[10:00] <Flying-Penguin> aeruder: I didn't say mount and ISO I said a shared drive
[10:00] <james_> Hi I have just installed breezy and I am not getting any sound. "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)"
[10:00] <cjnodell> I did install vlc.alsa, and i have no idea what daemons i might have running
[10:00] <crimsun> james_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:00] <Flying-Penguin> aeruder: with an iso I would get the same problem as an iso...
[10:00] <aeruder> a lot of the sensors are just crazy wrong and mixed up or stuff like that, the sensors program you are using must be flexible enough to configure it for that
[10:00] <crimsun> cjnodell: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[10:00] <crimsun> james_: then paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:00] <james_> crimsun, 0 [ICH5           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
[10:00] <james_>                      Intel ICH5 with AD1985 at 0xfebff400, irq 17
[10:01] <james_> crimsun, ok i'll remember that site :D
[10:01] <james_> sorry
[10:01] <ntldr> OK, I found the fix. I set the multiplier to 2 on case fan speeds
[10:01] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: please explain what you're trying to do, use a NTFS volume as the game directory? Or use a shared CD-ROM?
[10:02] <Madpilot> ntldr: yeah, that's a hack, but it give you the numbers you're expecting - I just make sure that the number > 0, and let it go with that...
[10:02] <cjnodell> three items where listed, esd, gmplayer, and gmplayer
[10:02] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: no, a windows computer that has the cd in shares their drive... then I mount it
[10:02] <blk> can someone help me on a breezy issue with xkb? i get an xkb error when setting the keyboard to something using the gnome-keyboard-pref (it seems although is working in a en_US mode which is probably hardcoded) - setting the layout in xorg.conf doesn't help either
[10:02] <Nathanial> is there a way to chmod something through terminal?
[10:02] <james_> crimsun, ok I pasted the output of asound here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1415
[10:03] <aeruder> Nathanial: chmod ? :)
[10:03] <Madpilot> Nathanial: on a command line? of course - chmod itself. type "man chmod" for info
[10:03] <ntldr> ok, i think actually the measurements are wrong. it shows weird speeds (from 600 rpm to 1200 rmp in a second)
[10:03] <Nathanial> okay thank you :)
[10:03] <aeruder> chmod 664 file ;)
[10:03] <aeruder> or whatever perms you want
[10:03] <aeruder> chmod -R 664 dir would recursively do a directory and all files/dirs in it
[10:04] <aeruder> Nathanial: you can also do things like chmod u+w file or g+w or o+rw or o-w etc. etc..
[10:04] <crimsun> james_: you need to mute the External Amplifier
[10:04] <Myrtti> well now
[10:04] <Myrtti> it doesm
[10:04] <james_> crimsun, ok how do I do that?
[10:04] <cjnodell> Should i restart gnome?
[10:04] <Myrtti> it doesn't even locate the usb card reader that hasn't been connected to the computer
[10:05] <aeruder> ntldr: a lot of the sensors are b0rked, you can't do a lot about it
[10:05] <crimsun> james_: use either Volume Control, alsamixer, or amixer
[10:05] <ntldr> :(
[10:05] <aeruder> either get a program that lets you apply multipliers to the results or just ignore it
[10:05] <Draucon> q time
[10:05] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: you there?
[10:05] <james_> crimsun, ok I muted it but I still do not hear anything
[10:06] <Myrtti> however brw-r-----  1 root plugdev 8, 0 2005-08-20 11:04 sda
[10:06] <ntldr> aeruder, this board's sensors are ok with Intel's drivers
[10:06] <Myrtti> is that ok?
[10:06] <aeruder> Myrtti: check dmesg
[10:06] <ntldr> anyway, at least they show something :)
[10:06] <aeruder> it'll tell you when you plugin a usb ;)
[10:07] <ntldr> cpu temp and cpu fan speeds look real
[10:07] <Madpilot> ntldr: most of the chip makers don't care about open source at all - therefore bad support. but a little bit of info is better than nothing
[10:07] <itay> Hi everyone!
[10:07] <Nathanial> eep
[10:07] <Nathanial> "You may want your current user to be the PHP pages administrator. To do so, edit the Apache configuration file :
[10:07] <Nathanial> $ sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:07] <Nathanial> Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache. (look at the next chapter concerning apache commands) "
[10:07] <crimsun> james_: then unmute it and Center, LFE, and
[10:07] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: sorry, was afk, can you mount this drive as a normal device...   sorry still not quite understanding how windows and ubuntu can share cdroms
[10:07] <aeruder> ntldr: that's just how it goes
[10:07] <Madpilot> !paste
[10:07] <ntldr> Madpilot, true
[10:07] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:07] <crimsun> james_: -and
[10:07] <Nathanial> I'm having problems figuring out what that means
[10:07] <itay> I have problem with the X server, I can't run a few applications...
[10:07] <Nathanial> current user name and group
[10:07] <itay> The error is:
[10:07] <itay> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[10:08] <aeruder> itay: you need to load the glx extension ;)
[10:08] <oceandead> wow that was easy...*too* easy
[10:08] <mojo> hi every1, I SERIOUSLY need some help here
[10:08] <aeruder> itay: what video card?
[10:08] <itay> aeruder, how do I do that?
[10:08] <itay> nvidia
[10:08] <aeruder> itay: ok, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:08] <mojo> the Ubuntu setup can't regconize my SATA HDD, what should I do?
[10:08] <aeruder> go to the section called Module
[10:08] <itay> ok
[10:08] <itay> ok
[10:09] <aeruder> do you see a Load "glx" in there?
[10:09] <itay> yes
[10:09] <Madpilot> Nathanial: you're going to open the apache configuration file and change it to your own user & group, that's all
[10:09] <aeruder> ok
[10:09] <aeruder> itay: now, open /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:09] <|doug|> Hi all, I bought a USB tv tuner and am messing around with tvtime, does anyone have any idea what (if anything) the USB device would be in /dev/ ?
[10:09] <itay> ok
[10:09] <Madpilot> Nathanial: can I /msg you to give you more detail?
[10:09] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: anyway, if you can't mount this as some sort of block device then cedega will never be able to utilize it's scu-rom (or whatever protection) hadnlers
[10:10] <ORiON2012> sorry for spelling
[10:10] <aeruder> itay: look through there for lines that contain glx (case insensitive)
[10:10] <aeruder> see any warnings or errors?
[10:10] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: ok... lets say a windows comp shares his cd drive over the windows network... then it would be at smb://compname/D then mount it...
[10:10] <james_> crimsun, ok they are unmuted but still nothing
[10:10] <cjnodell> I got it to work. I figured that since i had esd running that i should install the esd plugin for vlc, and enable it in the prefrences menu. it works now. thanks!
[10:11] <crimsun> james_: then try combinations of the exchange elements.
[10:11] <mojo> the Ubuntu setup can't regconize my SATA HDD, what should I do?
[10:11] <Nathanial> Madpilot
[10:11] <Nathanial> Sure
[10:11] <Nathanial> Sorry I was trying to figure it out
[10:11] <aeruder> mojo: assuming that you are a newbie, you are fscked
[10:11] <ntldr> Well, it seems that intel made drivers for SuSE and RedHat
[10:11] <itay> aeruder, should I use: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep glx"?
[10:11] <aeruder> mojo: try colony 3 cd
[10:11] <arphetic> !help
[10:11] <aeruder> itay: grep -i
[10:12] <oceandead> breezy is going to be excellent
[10:12] <ORiON2012> Flying-Penguin: sorry, but if the game doesn't have punkbuster, its ten times easier to just install and crack, I don't believe the copy protection will be transmitted over a network mounted filesystem
[10:12] <jtan325> is breezy usable?
[10:12] <itay> here are 2 lines from the output:
[10:12] <itay> Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
[10:12] <itay> (EE) GLX is not supported with the Composite extension
[10:12] <jtan325> anyone notice the topic no longer contains "please don't use breezy yet!"
[10:12] <aeruder> itay: ok that last one is your culprit
[10:12] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: could you find me a wc3 no cdcrack...
[10:13] <ORiON2012> aeruder: any opinion on this?
[10:13] <aeruder> itay: unless you are using the way way way way way newest nvidia drivers
[10:13] <Flying-Penguin> ORiON2012: I will try it for you
[10:13] <aeruder> ORiON2012: you are correct
[10:13] <aeruder> you can't get cd copy protection over a network
[10:13] <james_> crimsun, I just tried a combo and I am not getting any sound
[10:13] <aeruder> itay: you can't have composite and glx
[10:13] <itay> aeruder, I installed the driver by ubuntu guide
[10:14] <aeruder> itay: what version?
[10:14] <itay> what is composite?
[10:14] <itay> aeruder, the nvidia-glx version is 1.0.7174-0ubuntu1
[10:14] <aeruder> itay: it is a extension that allows a feature called the composite extension which lets you have translucent windows and shadows and other neat stuff
[10:15] <aeruder> itay: ok, that's too old, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:15] <aeruder> go down to the Extensions section
[10:15] <aeruder>        Option "Composite"      "Enable"
[10:15] <aeruder> prefix that line with #
[10:15] <azriel0184> what is a good cd burning program?
[10:15] <aeruder> save, restart X
[10:16] <oceandead> i just set up printing over lan in about 2 seconds
[10:16] <|doug|> azriel0184, try k3b
[10:16] <itay> aeruder, ok I will now restart and come back here
[10:16] <oceandead> breezy really is breezy
[10:16] <aeruder> itay: okie
[10:16] <jtan325> oceandead, it hasn't caused any problems?
[10:16] <aeruder> oceandead: the upgrade was a little quirky ;)
[10:16] <ntldr> is there a video card test tool similar to dxdiag in windows?
[10:16] <oceandead> tell me about it
[10:16] <oceandead> upgrade didnt work for me
[10:16] <aeruder> oceandead: had to do a couple dpkg --force things to get it there ;)
[10:16] <aeruder> on two packages at least
[10:17] <ntldr> I need to check if my video card is installed properly
[10:17] <jtan325> hmmm yeah i think i''ll wait a few weeks
[10:17] <jtan325> i don
[10:17] <jtan325> 't mind
[10:17] <oceandead> kept throwing errors didnt want to startx ...eventually i got it to but too many troubles - did a fresh install
[10:17] <|doug|> anyone have any experience with USB tv tuners or similar devices?  I think my question is pretty generic, I just need to figure out if and where there is something in /dev/ linking to it
[10:18] <oceandead> i got it to startx that is
[10:18] <|doug|> /dev/video0 doesn't work, and most of the google results are about PCI tuners
[10:18] <aeruder> |doug|: try dmesg and check your kernel logs
[10:18] <aeruder> :)
[10:18] <aeruder> oceandead: yea, i guess i can try a startx
[10:18] <aeruder> brb hopefully
[10:18] <crimsun> james_: have you tried alsa-source from universe, then?
[10:19] <james_> crimsun, no not yet.
[10:19] <crimsun> !tell james_ about alsa-source
[10:19] <itay> hi! it works!
[10:19] <Myrtti> I Hate My Life
[10:20] <itay> Thank you very much!
[10:20] <oceandead> basically it killed ...a lot of things. then again i wasnt upgrading the "default" hoary install ..i had removed some packages, added others etc
[10:20] <|doug|> okay, I might have some luck with USBVision drivers
[10:20] <jtan325> hmmm yeah
[10:24] <ntldr> Gotta go. Thanks guys!
[10:24] <aeruder> oceandead yea, might be a while til i get this crap worked out :)
[10:24] <james_> thanks crimsun I will try it now :D
[10:24] <zerboxx> what is the reverse command to "cut"? (head vs tail, cut vs ?)???
[10:25] <oceandead> what kind of issues have you had aeruder - or too many to list?
[10:25] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: "paste"
[10:25] <aeruder> oceandead mostly just xorg issues now
[10:25] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: man paste ;)
[10:26] <aeruder> oceandead finding the fixed font ;)
[10:26] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: hmm not sure if that's what I mean, cut seems to take from the end of an output and goes left, I'm looking for something that goes the other way
[10:26] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: ah, I see
[10:26] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: actually, other way around :D
[10:26] <oceandead> i dont even know how i got it started, i re-did base-config and used http for sources eventually whatever i did i got it started
[10:27] <Madpilot> blah, it's already 0125 here... good night/morning/$timeofday, everyone
[10:27] <oceandead> gnome panels were gone though, no text in firefox ...bunch of other things
[10:27] <aeruder> oceandead yeh, i'll get through it all
[10:27] <aeruder> oceandead hopefully ;)
[10:28] <oceandead> hehehe
[10:28] <H0lyD4wg> what should be done to run gdmflexiserver successfully from VT1-6 ?
[10:29] <oceandead> did you get the "perl warning: setting locale failed [...] " as well?
[10:29] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: XD put this into a terminal "ifconfig eth0 | head -n2 | tail -n1 | cut -c21-33"
[10:29] <|doug|> err no luck, I installed usbvision drivers and loaded the module, but still can't find a device for my capture card
[10:30] <oonoon> during the boot, it takes much time (like 1 minute) to 'Configuring network interfaces' (i'm connected to a wifi network) ; knows how to avoid that ?
[10:30] <aeruder> oceandead uh...
[10:31] <oceandead> guess not
[10:31] <james_> crimsun, I tried what you typed but I get this error
[10:31] <james_> You don't have the compiler that your kernel was built with installed
[10:31] <james_> make: *** [configure-stamp]  Error 1
[10:31] <zerboxx> I'm behind a router, is there any way within the terminal to see what my external IP is?
[10:31] <ubuntu> I'm trying to update hoary to breezy, but some packages depends of libcairo1>=0.6.0, but this is not avaiable.  Any solution ?
[10:32] <ubuntu> there is only libcairo2 avaiable
[10:32] <aeruder> oceandead doesn't look like it
[10:33] <crimsun> james_: do you have build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed?
[10:34] <james_> crimsun, yes they are installed
[10:34] <|doug|> dmesg only tells me ``usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7''
[10:34] <crimsun> james_: gcc -v && cat /proc/version
[10:34] <crimsun> james_: paste the output in #flood
[10:35] <james_> crimsun, ok
[10:35] <aeruder> oceandead yea, not looking good at all :)
[10:36] <oceandead> whats not looking good
[10:36] <crimsun> james_: Breezy?
[10:36] <crimsun> james_: there're quite a few things in flux in Breezy
[10:36] <james_> crimsun, yeah
[10:37] <james_> crimsun, I tried hoary but samething no sound
[10:37] <crimsun> james_: you need to use gcc-3.4 to compile the newer ALSA drivers
[10:37] <james_> ok. so does that mean I need to use hoary again?
[10:37] <aeruder> oceandead : xorg's possibilities of working :)
[10:37] <crimsun> james_: not necessarily, but you do need the same C compiler
[10:38] <oceandead> if i got it to work im sure you can
[10:38] <ntldr> I can't install latest NVidia drivers. I get some errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1416
[10:38] <itay> hi again!
[10:38] <nEmiSH> where is the correct place to ask question about HAL?
[10:38] <itay> I am trying to run enemy territory, but it stuck in "sound initialization".
[10:38] <james_> crimsun, ok do I just apt for gcc-3.4?
[10:38] <itay> what's the problem?
[10:38] <oceandead> though, it may not be worth the trouble once you do?
[10:38] <aeruder> oceandead it is segfaulting ;) (xorg)
[10:38] <oceandead> doh
[10:38] <crispynix-v6> nEmiSH: well, there's one person in #hal ;)
[10:38] <oceandead> didnt get that bad on me
[10:39] <nEmiSH> crispynix-v6, ChanServ?
[10:39] <crispynix-v6> nEmiSH: dunno. you could ask here, I guess.
[10:39] <nEmiSH> well i'm having a problem with hal's auto mounting a device
[10:40] <itay> what's the problem with the sound?
[10:40] <nEmiSH> i have tried to create a FDI to get around these problems
[10:40] <ntldr> can someone help me with my problem? =>> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1416
[10:40] <ntldr> :)
[10:40] <zerboxx> I'm behind a router, is there any way within the terminal to see what my external IP is???
[10:40] <nEmiSH> FDI mounts to correct mount point but doesn't mount with correct fstype and mounts RO instead of RW
[10:41] <nEmiSH> i know it works because I can mount using fstab entry and it mounts fine
[10:41] <james_> zerboxx, http://www.whatismyip.com/
[10:41] <zerboxx> james_: any way within terminal though?
[10:41] <nEmiSH> just when HAL auto mounts it  seems to be the problem
[10:41] <james_> zerboxx, nope
[10:41] <itay> enemy territory gets stuck when it tries to initialize the sound...
[10:42] <crispynix-v6> nEmiSH: hrm, I'm not sure whether or not hal uses per-user options, but you could check the stuff in /etc/hal/ and documentation
[10:42] <oceandead> itay have you looked on the forums?
[10:42] <crimsun> james_: yeah
[10:42] <itay> oceandead, no, what forums? ubuntu forum?
[10:42] <crispynix-v6> nEmiSH: hal automount at least uses pmount iirc, which can be called by an unpriv user
[10:43] <oceandead> yep
[10:43] <james_> crimsun, ok I will download it then
[10:43] <oceandead> theres a whole board devoted to gaming ...
[10:43] <crispynix-v6> nEmiSH: actually, nevermind (it can't)
[10:44] <deufo> is there a way to get the ricoh card reader to work?
[10:44] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: install ez-ipupdate and set up an account on dyndns.org that points at your current IP - then doing " host foo.yourdyndns.org" or whatever returns your IP
[10:45] <james_> itay, I had the same problem. when you run it in the terminal there is actually a fix in the error that tells you how to get it working.
[10:45] <aeruder> deufo tried googling?
[10:45] <Xyc0> http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php <--Always a good laugh at Corporate America's ignorance of the world.
[10:45] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: awesome, thanks!
[10:45] <aeruder> deufo because with that specific of a question, you'll get a lot better luck with google than you will in here most likely
[10:45] <nEmiSH> crispynix-v6,  hal is trying to mount my UDF (Iomega REV drive) as a cdrom   fs=cdfss and ro...
[10:46] <deufo> aeruder, i read somewhere on the forum that ricoh SD card readers dun work
[10:46] <deufo> aeruder, just wondering if its true
[10:46] <nEmiSH> if i mount through fstab or manually it mounts fs=udf, rw
[10:46] <james_> crimsun, ok it looks like it is compiling now :)
[10:46] <aeruder> deufo best thing to do is mess around and try it
[10:46] <aeruder> deufo find some instructions for another card reader and see if they work
[10:46] <deufo> aeruder, ty
[10:47] <crispynix-v6> nEmiSH: well, you probably need to change something in /etc/hal/, I don't know. There should be documentation that covers the intricacies of hal.
[10:48] <emilio> hola
[10:48] <aeruder> emilio hola
[10:49] <emilio> tengo una preguntilla
[10:49] <nEmiSH> crispynix-v6, problem is rev drive appears to systems.. including windows as a CDrom drive because its UDF
[10:49] <emilio> a ver si me podias hechar una mano
[10:49] <nEmiSH> i need to have HAL override that default behavior and specify that this can mount RW as opposed to RO
[10:49] <aeruder> emilio eek, me no hablo bueno espanol
[10:49] <emilio> quiero instalar netbeans en ubuntu pero no me va
[10:50] <emilio> ok
[10:50] <crispynix-v6> nEmiSH: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/hal
[10:50] <emilio> i want install netbeans in ubuntu
[10:51] <crispynix-v6> nEmiSH: aha, #freedesktop might be a better place to ask. gl :)
[10:51] <abyss> lo what i need for dvd playback?
[10:51] <ORiON2012> emilio: does netbeans installer tell an error?
[10:52] <emilio> do you chat about java?
[10:52] <ORiON2012> emilio: many people have had problems with it and JBuilder
[10:52] <emilio> do you know chat about java
[10:52] <emilio> ok
[10:52] <aeruder> emilio you may have luck in another channel
[10:52] <llpamies> I edited my grup's menu.lst, and now, when I do a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image...  It dont regenerate correctlt my menu.lst.  How can I tell dpkg to regenerate my menu.lst ?
[10:52] <llpamies> thanks
[10:52] <ORiON2012> emilio: I am a Java developer, but have not used Netbeans before in linux
[10:52] <aeruder> emilio is there a #java?
[10:53] <emilio> mi ingles is little bad ok
[10:53] <aeruder> emilio certainly a lot better than my spanish ;)
[10:53] <ORiON2012> emilio: no problem
[10:54] <aeruder> emilio you might ask in ##java channel
[10:54] <aeruder> emilio they have lots of people, and there may be some linux users
[10:54] <HappyFool> llpamies: what is it not doing? I think the command might be 'update-grub' -- I don't know if the dpkg-reconfigure will call that
[10:54] <abyss> !dvd
[10:54] <ubotu> [dvd]  There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[10:54] <llpamies> I update my kernel-image yesterday, and now I can boot, it return me a kernel panic !!   Anybody knows what are this ?
[10:55] <aeruder> emilio ubuntu doesn't have netbeans i don't think, but general linux supports it, so any distro's instructions for installing it should work for you
[10:55] <aeruder> emilio comprehende?
[10:55] <james_> crimsun, ok it is done but I don't hear anything still. do I need to reboot?
[10:56] <emilio> i dowload netbeans 4.1 linux.bin and i execute  ./netbeans .. but functional
[10:56] <Velox> llpamies: can you give us a full paste of the error by pasting it to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[10:56] <JBpunk>   
[10:56] <aeruder> emilio how big of download?
[10:56] <abyss> can anybody tell me what codecs i need to play a dvd on ubuntu?
[10:56] <emilio> 54 megas
[10:56] <james_> abydos, libdvdcss2
[10:57] <crimsun> james_: if you didn't unload the old modules and reload the new ones, yes
[10:57] <james_> ok
[10:57] <crimsun> back tomorrow.
[10:57] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: Thanks for the dyndns.org info, works perfectly.  What must I do to keep this updated now?
[10:57] <llpamies> Velox, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1417
[10:57] <aeruder> emilio any error when you tried to run ./netbeans... ?
[10:58] <ORiON2012> aeruder: heh, that's what I asked
[10:58] <JBpunk>   Totem*.mpg 
[10:58] <ORiON2012> maybe hes asking in #java
[10:58] <dabar> JBpunk: napusi se kurca.
[10:58] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: ez-ipdate can update on connect - sudo dpkg-reconfigure ez-ipdate to set it I seem to recall
[10:58] <aeruder> ORiON2012 perhaps
[10:58] <emilio> no existe el fichero o directorio but it,s well write
[10:59] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: I use it that way for my dialup anyway
[10:59] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: wow, thanks!
[10:59] <ORiON2012> emilio: which directory, can you cut and paste it?
[10:59] <aeruder> emilio ./netbeans<tab>
[10:59] <dabar> emilio: so? the file dont exist.
[10:59] <llpamies> HappyFool, yes update-grub works fine
[10:59] <emilio> yes
[10:59] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: you can run it as a daemon I think
[10:59] <emilio> i.m dowloading again
[10:59] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: I see that, not sure if I will or not yet :)
[10:59] <aeruder> emilio does it show full filename when you hit tab?
[10:59] <aeruder> emilio also, try sh netbeans<tab>
[11:00] <dbernar1> emilio: you have asked at ubuntu-es?
[11:00] <leo_> my box is Ubuntu, where is right path for httpd.conf cos i want to setup virtual host
[11:00] <leo_> can anyone help me, please
[11:00] <ORiON2012> #ubnuntu-es, excellent idea
[11:00] <emilio> ok thank you
[11:00] <dbernar1> no
[11:00] <aeruder> leo_ /etc/apache2 has all the apache configs
[11:00] <ORiON2012> dbernar1: didn't know it existed...
[11:00] <aeruder> yah, me neither
[11:00] <dbernar1> !es
[11:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:01] <aeruder> i was about to start crappy half-english/spanish to communicate with him
[11:01] <aeruder> and that wouldn't have been pretty
[11:01] <dbernar1> mah..
[11:01] <james_> crimsun, ok I just rebooted and there is still no sound.
[11:01] <dbernar1> james_: good.
[11:01] <aeruder> i remember enough spanish to communicate, but a lot of words i've forgotten :)
[11:01] <leo_> ya, but i see only 4 lines in httpd.conf file in /etc/apache2/
[11:02] <aeruder> leo_ look in sites-enabled
[11:02] <Velox> aeruder: Indeed...I know broken spanish myself. Unfortunately I find myself forgetting most of my lessons :P
[11:02] <dbernar1> :57 < crimsun> back tomorrow.
[11:02] <james_> dbernar1, huh??
[11:02] <ORiON2012> dbernar1: good?
[11:02] <dbernar1> oh, that...
[11:02] <james_> ahh ok
[11:03] <dbernar1> maybe wasnt gonna work anyhow, they finished part of it or asomething...
[11:03] <leo_> can u explain more
[11:03] <dbernar1> leo, searched for the file?
[11:03] <ORiON2012> leo_: in the apache config directory
[11:04] <leo_> ya, i found only one httpd.conf
[11:04] <ORiON2012> a2ensite, some such nonsense, hate the new synlink crap
[11:04] <aeruder> leo_ look at some of the files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[11:04] <Velox> HappyFool: I never did get GRUB to work yet. Until then I'm stuck accessing Ubuntu with VMware Virtual Workstation, directly interfacing with the drive...and GRUB actually works with it >_<
[11:04] <dbernar1> leo, looked at an online manual? apache ought to be well documented...
[11:04] <HappyFool> Velox: hmm. did you ever try ompaul's idea of unplugging your SATA drive? just to see if it works?
[11:05] <dbernar1> leo.../usr/share/doc/apache/examples/httpd.conf
[11:05] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: html2text http://checkip.dyndns.org:8245/    <-- try it ;)
[11:05] <dbernar1> yours will be apache 2 maybe.
[11:05] <emilio> join #java
[11:05] <llpamies> I've a kernel panic after update my hoary laptop. In booting it tell me that can't mount my root /dev/hda2, or bad block 0,0. Is a strange message when I install my kernel, see it here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1417
[11:05] <aeruder> dbernar1 they have a complicated setup for apache2 configs
[11:05] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: nice :)
[11:06] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:06] <Velox> HappyFool: Actually I never saw that one...I also tried loading GRUB from NTLDR after using bootpart...still didn't work.
[11:06] <zerboxx> zerboxx: I finally figured out ez-ipupdate :) so that's perfect now, I get a nice IP info thing, AND a dns!
[11:06] <Velox> I'll try unplugging the SATA drive later.
[11:06] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: I finally figured out ez-ipupdate :) so that's perfect now, I get a nice IP info thing, AND a dns!
[11:06] <dbernar1> zerboxx: why talk to yourself?
[11:06] <zerboxx> ...yes I'm tired :)
[11:06] <Velox> Right now I full-screened Kubuntu and am getting my Linux fix in.
[11:06] <zerboxx> dbernar1: :P I'm tired
[11:06] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: html2text http://checkip.dyndns.org:8245/  | grep IP  <-- nicer ;)
[11:06] <dbernar1> you type pretty fast...
[11:07] <dbernar1> zerboxx: Im gonna get a computer just for that, and servers.
[11:07] <zerboxx> dbernar1: that's because it's like a natural thing, not thinking though ;)
[11:07] <leo_> in sites-enabled folder, i see 000-default that has virtual host lines in inside but it is read only file
[11:08] <zerboxx> dbernar1: Today I've set up apache, mysql, php, torrentflux, conky, and now this dns thingy :)
[11:08] <ORiON2012> llpamies: so that would imply that there's something wrong with the filesystem or you did something nasty,, any idea which it wouyld be?
[11:08] <ORiON2012> sorry for spelling
[11:09] <aeruder> leo_ are you root?
[11:09] <leo_> ya, i can
[11:09] <llpamies> ORiON2012, The filesistem is ok, because now I'm chrooted inside with a Live hoary.
[11:09] <aeruder> llpamies probably an initrd issue
[11:09] <ORiON2012> yep
[11:09] <aeruder> llpamies it isn't finding your ide drivers or filesystem drivers
[11:10] <llpamies> ORiON2012, I think that the problem is that initrd.img doesn't has the ext3 drivers
[11:10] <aeruder> llpamies does it have ext2?
[11:10] <llpamies> aeruder, is ext3
[11:10] <oceandead> i wonder if i should add my wireless card to the wiki (HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards)
[11:10] <aeruder> llpamies ext2 drivers can mount ext3
[11:11] <llpamies> aeruder, how can I try it ?
[11:11] <aeruder> llpamies its hard to debug initrd stuff
[11:11] <aeruder> llpamies very hard
[11:11] <llpamies> aeruder, do you see my message when I install the kernel ?
[11:11] <ORiON2012> oceandead: which card? just curious..
[11:11] <llpamies> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1417
[11:12] <leo_> aeruder, i can root
[11:12] <ORiON2012> cpio:   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7feb000): No such file or directory
[11:12] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: Do you have ex-ipupdate run at startup?
[11:12] <ORiON2012> which would mean it can't read filesystem
[11:12] <oceandead> dwl-650 v.M1 (realtek rtl8180l chipset, phillips sa-2400 frontend)
[11:12] <ORiON2012> or something is really wrong
[11:12] <aeruder> llpamies i'm still trying to recover from my breezy upgrade, i'm a bit crippled atm
[11:13] <aeruder> because there be lots of changes!
[11:13] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: umm... I forget what I did now - been a while - I don't think so
[11:13] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: mine just runs when I dial up
[11:13] <oceandead> works with drivers from http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net (must be compiled first, obviously) and ndiswrapper of course
[11:13] <aeruder> leo_ you will (hopefully) need root to edit any files in /etc
[11:14] <ORiON2012> aeruder: and yet here I sit, in breezy install, that I've NEVER had upgrade issues with, yes I'm bragging
[11:14] <llpamies> aeruder, In my other PC, my breeze update is broken too, all the system depends of libcairo1, and it isn't avaiable
[11:14] <zerboxx> thoreauputic: cool
[11:14] <oceandead> <- had issues upgrading
[11:15] <aeruder> llpamies ;)
[11:15] <leo_> aeruder, i am in rood, how can i edit cos i am newbies in linux
[11:16] <aeruder> ORiON2012 you installed from scratch breezy more or less :)
[11:16] <ORiON2012> llpamies: have to ask, exactly what was performed prior to the kernel upgrade?
[11:16] <ORiON2012> aeruder: yup
[11:16] <thoreauputic> zerboxx: the html2text thing works from the box you are on - but ez-ipupdate is nice if you want to find the machine from elsewhere
[11:16] <aeruder> leo_ install nano, then nano /etc/whatever
[11:16] <aeruder> leo_ sudo apt-get install nano
[11:17] <thoreauputic> aeruder: nano is installed by default
[11:17] <llpamies> ORiON2012, I don't understand, what want you say ?
[11:17] <oceandead> nano there by default
[11:18] <ORiON2012> llpamies: you said you were upgrading, it would probably be useful to know exactly what you upgraded.
[11:18] <oceandead> aeruder can you get your networking going? i did a base-config used http .... then i could get x up
[11:18] <oceandead> had no panels in gnome, no text in firefox but i got x up haha
[11:18] <llpamies> I upgrade hoary from my update-notifier, and it only upgrade linux-image-2.6.10-5-686
[11:19] <aeruder> oceandead to tell you the truth, i've spent the last 20 minutes looking for xeyes
[11:19] <aeruder> only to find i think they split up xbase-clients and forgot it :)
[11:19] <aeruder> xeyes is an integral part of my x sessions ;)
[11:19] <llpamies> ORiON2012, I think that the problem is that when It try to create the initrd image appear this error: cpio:   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7feb000): No such file or directory
[11:19] <llpamies> cpio: (0xffffe000): No such file or directory
[11:19] <thoreauputic> aeruder: bug report time! *g*
[11:20] <oceandead> aeruder, try geyes?
[11:20] <i4> where can i find a log of tcp/ip connections made to my computer?
[11:20] <ORiON2012> it still sounds like the ext driver problem that aeruder mentioned
[11:21] <aeruder_> boo, guess i'll have to deal with tuxeyes
[11:21] <llpamies> ORiON2012, and the cpio error is not important?
[11:21] <oceandead> a real tragedy
[11:21] <ORiON2012> llpamies: I'm sorry ut it's beyond me
[11:21] <vot3> can someoone help me? everytime a user logs in and uploads a file i am unable to move the folder because i do not have permission. how can i change this
[11:21] <aeruder_> oceandead: i use xeyes as my controlling window
[11:21] <ORiON2012> *but
[11:22] <aeruder_> that way, i can start another window manager by just quitting one and starting another
[11:22] <aeruder_> as long as xeyes is going, the x session stays alive
[11:22] <aeruder_> but oh well, tuxeyes will work!
[11:22] <ORiON2012> llpamies: this may be useful http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27709.html
[11:22] <ORiON2012> llpamies: same error
[11:24] <ORiON2012> llpamies: several people solved the problem in that thread
[11:24] <chicken-man> Hi every one
[11:25] <ORiON2012> hello
[11:25] <cute_bettong> anyone know what video resolution is supported by the nvidia geforce 4000mx with 128mb ddr?
[11:25] <llpamies> ORiON2012, thanks I'm trying it !
[11:25] <ORiON2012> how rude, nooone says "hi".
[11:25] <vot3> can someone tell me how to use umask so that all files uploaded in the /home directories have rwx for all users?
[11:25] <cute_bettong> hi lol
[11:25] <cute_bettong> sorry to busy typinh crap >.<
[11:25] <chicken-man> can some one tell me what the file is that starts up all the programs when i boot ?
[11:26] <aeruder_> chicken-man: well, technically /sbin/init
[11:26] <chicken-man> thanks
[11:26] <aeruder_> chicken-man: but what you're probably talking about is /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rcS.d
[11:26] <cute_bettong> any ideas?
[11:26] <ORiON2012> chicken-man: and then there's all the init.d scripts
[11:26] <aeruder_> which contains all the scripts that get started by init
[11:26] <chicken-man> i want to stop XDM from starting
[11:26] <aeruder_> chicken-man: sure, go into /etc/rc2.d
[11:26] <aeruder_> do ls
[11:26] <aeruder_> find the S99xdm or whatever
[11:27] <aeruder_> mv S99xdm _99xdm
[11:27] <aeruder_> you've disabled it
[11:27] <chicken-man> ok
[11:27] <ORiON2012> aeruder_: chmod a-x ?
[11:27] <aeruder_> well, you could do that too, i usually just rename it as such (which amkes it easy to later reenable)
[11:28] <ORiON2012> chicken-man: two sides of the same coin, I'm just anal and like too preserve my filenames
[11:28] <ORiON2012> extremely anal
[11:29] <No1Viking> When will Breezy be stable and available to download and install?
[11:30] <aeruder_> No1Viking: not now, heh
[11:30] <ORiON2012> No1Viking: check the wiki for all breezy goodness
[11:30] <nerdy2> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[11:30] <abyss> lo anybody there who can tell me how to install a rt2500 base wlan card on ubuntu?
[11:30] <nerdy2> sorry, no need for https, anyways, Oct. 13
[11:31] <llpamies> any idea about breezy dependece of libcairo1 ?  any solution ?
[11:31] <aeruder_> llpamies: it isn't greatly affecting me
[11:31] <nerdy2> llpamies: what do you mean?
[11:31] <zerboxx> Anyone here comfy with apache??
[11:32] <ORiON2012> abyss: there are no packages that I know of to facilitate this, its going to take some source compilation
[11:32] <llpamies> nerdy2, all packages like totem, evolution etc etc depends of libcairo1, and it isn't avaiable. The correct package is libcairo2
[11:33] <oceandead> abyss, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[11:33] <oceandead> oops sorry wrong link
[11:33] <oceandead> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:33] <nerdy2> llpamies: i've got totem, evolution, .... all installed, as well as libcairo2 :)
[11:33] <aeruder_> there are several packages that you need to just wait to upgrade
[11:33] <llpamies> nerdy2, which repos are you using ?
[11:33] <nerdy2> archive.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <vot3> can someone help me with umask?
[11:34] <llpamies> nerdy2, it has any tipe of load balance, or redirect by zone ?
[11:34] <llpamies> s/tipe/type/
[11:34] <HappyFool> vot3: what do you want to know?
[11:34] <ORiON2012> llpamies: did that forum thread work?
[11:35] <vot3> HappyFool: i am trying to set it so that any new uploads in my /home directories are automaticall +rwx for ALL user.
[11:35] <nerdy2> llpamies: host shows two addresses for archive.ubuntu.com, about other types of load balancing/redirection i dunno
[11:35] <llpamies> ORiON2012, I'm downloading 2.6.12
[11:35] <ORiON2012> llpamies: welcome to the new age :P
[11:35] <HappyFool> vot3: setting +x automatically is probably not that useful
[11:35] <vot3> HappyFool: ok then, just +rw
[11:36] <srijith> hi all
[11:36] <ORiON2012> hey
[11:36] <llpamies> ORiON2012, I'm going to reboot ...
[11:36] <HappyFool> vot3: 'umask 0000' is what you want, i think
[11:36] <HappyFool> vot3: i'm not sure where you'd put that, though
[11:36] <vot3> k.
[11:36] <No1Viking> 7list
[11:37] <vot3> does anyone else know?
[11:37] <HappyFool> vot3: you can try ~/.gnomerc
[11:37] <HappyFool> vot3: if you just need it for shells, put it in ~/.bashrc
[11:39] <vot3> HappyFool: i will do both and see what happens
[11:39] <srijith> anyone around here use Enigmail with PGP/MIME?
[11:39] <vot3> HappyFool: wold i have to do that for each user with a shell?
[11:40] <HappyFool> vot3: for all users, you can look in /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:40] <HappyFool> vot3: or add something to /etc/X11/Xsession.d  (for GUI)
[11:41] <vot3> HappyFool: i have never edited my .bashrc file. where do i put it?
[11:41] <HappyFool> vot3: i'm not sure how to set umask for GNOME/KDE
[11:41] <HappyFool> vot3: in your home dir
[11:41] <ORiON2012> vot3: are all your users of a certain group?
[11:41] <vot3> HappyFool: why would i need to set it for the gui?
[11:41] <HappyFool> vot3: ~ means 'home'
[11:41] <vot3> k
[11:41] <HappyFool> vot3: so that when firefox (or whatever) saves a file, it has the desired permissions
[11:42] <vot3> HappyFool: i am using scp over an ssh connection to transfer these files.
[11:43] <ORiON2012> vot3: this scp transmission transfers to a specified directory or to all users home?
[11:43] <HappyFool> vot3: then .bashrc ought to be ok
[11:44] <HappyFool> vot3: or you could just type 'umask 0000' before you do the copy ;)
[11:44] <ORiON2012> nevermind then
[11:44] <demantik> not currently using ubuntu, but...does anybody know much about gnome 2.10, and not getting past the splash screen? lol
[11:45] <vot3> # /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for the Bourne shell (sh(1))
[11:45] <ORiON2012> demantik: now c'mon, there must be useful error mesages
[11:45] <vot3> this looks correct
[11:45] <weejamer> how do i play wmv in linux?
[11:45] <srijith> vlcplayer?
[11:45] <HappyFool> !restricted
[11:45] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:45] <demantik> SESSION_MANAGER=local/10.0.0.2:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4558.....stops at that
[11:45] <weejamer> i tryed that but it did not work
[11:45] <srijith> wmv9?
[11:46] <weejamer> no idea
[11:46] <HappyFool> weejamer: some windows formats may not be supported
[11:46] <weejamer> thats great
[11:46] <demantik> ORiON2012 - any ideas? lol
[11:46] <weejamer> everything is a fight to get things working in linux
[11:47] <demantik> ^ not entirely
[11:47] <srijith> wmv9 would most probably fail in Linux
[11:47] <demantik> mplayer plays wmv9 perfectly..
[11:47] <ORiON2012> demantik: not so much, which distro?
[11:47] <demantik> Archlinux ;)
[11:47] <srijith> weejamer, just like you can't run a .deb file in Windows? :)
[11:47] <demantik> ill see if i can find any other error messages.. :( lol
[11:48] <ORiON2012> demantik: sorry, but I have no idea
[11:48] <vot3> HappyFool: i am not the one copying the files over
[11:48] <topyli> you don't "run" debs in linux either :)
[11:48] <weejamer> Sigh will there ever be a great OS?
[11:48] <gentoo_junkie> anyone figure out how to fix the naim toc server problem ?
[11:48] <demantik> alright..thanx anyway....Ubuntu is great!..trying arch aswell though hah...
[11:48] <ORiON2012> weejamer: Mac OS X :P
[11:48] <demantik> weejamer - linux is great, if u know how to use it.
[11:48] <srijith> weejamer, if you know it is wmv9, try this page ->http://www.nanocrew.net/?p=16
[11:48] <demantik> but not one thing is perfect
[11:48] <topyli> weejamer: i doubt it. i hope some of them begin to suck less
[11:49] <urezin> hi all
[11:49] <chicken-man> hi
[11:49] <ORiON2012> srijith: how does that help?
[11:50] <weejamer> my girl friend is getting a Mac powerbook soon so i will give it mac os a try ORiON2012
[11:50] <demantik> MPLAYER <- the answer to video playback troubles....im yet to find a video it WONT play :|
[11:50] <thoreauputic> weejamer: does windows media player play Ogg Theora ? <grin>
[11:50] <gentoo_junkie> I am also interested to use max os X
[11:50] <weejamer> no idea Ogg Theora is
[11:50] <demantik> mplayer plays H264 about twice as good as windows, with any player ;)
[11:51] <gentoo_junkie> whois @bob2
[11:51] <demantik> mac os x would be great if we didnt have to pay so much for the hardware
[11:51] <weejamer> i hurd mac os will run on a intell based systen
[11:51] <thoreauputic> weejamer: what a lousy OS - won't play open video formats!!
[11:51] <weejamer> ME want
[11:51] <ORiON2012> gentoo_junkie: the only thing I hate about Mac OS X is all the stupid little shareware fees to get native cocoa/carbon apps
[11:51] <gentoo_junkie> whoops haha
[11:51] <demantik> weejamer - not officially...
[11:51] <weejamer> still me want
[11:52] <gentoo_junkie> ORiON2012: I am scarred of mac os x more then linux hehe, such a small user base compared to either windows or linux distros
[11:52] <demantik> lol
[11:52] <demantik> doesnt Mac have a much larger user base than linux
[11:52] <oceandead> yeah
[11:52] <weejamer> my girl freind is pay throught he roof for the mac laptop but i am getting the free i pod so i am happy
[11:52] <vot3> ORiON2012: the scp transmission transfers into a specified users dir, the one who is logged in. but i want all the dirs in /home and all the ones under them to have +rw by default, it seems like it would be easy
[11:52] <gentoo_junkie> hmmm.
[11:52] <demantik> or does it just seem that way, with the Mac stores everywhere
[11:52] <demantik> :F
[11:52] <demantik> :D
[11:52] <oceandead> no, it does
[11:52] <ORiON2012> gentoo_junkie: yes, but at least from my experience they're ten times more psychotically attatched to their OS
[11:52] <gentoo_junkie> i am not sure demantik.
[11:53] <demantik> indeed.
[11:53] <weejamer> lol ORiON2012 i agree
[11:53] <oceandead> i dont know about 10x
[11:53] <gentoo_junkie> orion2012 nods, and since the linux kernel is ported to mac it should improve.
[11:53] <oceandead> but at least 2x
[11:53] <demantik> Master Windows In 7 days! <-- books like that are funny..
[11:53] <thoreauputic> very hard to gauge the size of the Linux user base
[11:53] <gentoo_junkie> well ubuntu is the biggest distro I know, and ist still growing.
[11:53] <Dejavu> hi everyone
[11:54] <oceandead> you know osx is gonna wind up running on non-mac hardware ...and i dont think it will take long either
[11:54] <weejamer> master windows in 7 days is a popup book in the kids section
[11:54] <ORiON2012> vot3: do you have some sort of script for initiating this scp transfer?  this would be an ideal candidate for some simple bash scripting
[11:54] <thoreauputic> demantik: Master Linux in Seventy Years!
[11:54] <gentoo_junkie> shrug i never used a mac machine that didn't boggle me.
[11:54] <chicken-man> lol
[11:54] <gentoo_junkie> but thats as a windows/linux user.
[11:54] <Dejavu> whats the best firewall for linux (ubunut) ?
[11:54] <gentoo_junkie> firestarter dejavu
[11:55] <vot3> ORiON2012: no, i figured there would be an easy way to set the default umask. /etc/profile has an entry for it but when i tested it it did not work, unless there is something i need to restart before it will take effect?
[11:55] <gentoo_junkie> dejavu there also is shorewalls
[11:55] <llpamies> ORiON2012, I'm on my laptop again
[11:55] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: iptables, they're pretty much all based on iptables
[11:55] <oceandead> darn beret wearin mac users
[11:55] <llpamies> thanks
[11:55] <thoreauputic> oceandead: darn tinfoil hat wearing Linux users!
[11:55] <oceandead> i think dejavu wants a gui?
[11:55] <Dejavu> i got firestarter running at the moment .. definately is preety neat !
[11:56] <weejamer> i wonder why mac users are always blood thrusty to get other users to mas also
[11:56] <oceandead> thoreauputic, hahaha
[11:56] <demantik> lol
[11:56] <Dejavu> oceandead: yup !  gui is a must
[11:56] <weejamer> its like hold on you want a 20 year windows user to change to mac like that
[11:56] <oceandead> my tinfoil hat protects me from a lot things
[11:56] <chicken-man> GUI's = rubbish
[11:56] <gentoo_junkie> i think everyone at one point or another figures out that the CLI is the best way to control your comp.
[11:57] <tenco> hi all
[11:57] <gentoo_junkie> tenco: HI! :)
[11:57] <tenco> how can i install math fonts for konqueror?
[11:57] <ORiON2012> vot3: the scp transfer inherits permissions from the transfered file....  is there an scp config you can set to define default umask
[11:57] <ORiON2012> ?
[11:57] <oceandead> Dejavu, theres a couple out there
[11:57] <oceandead> firestarter is one
[11:58] <weejamer> untill i see all the windows software on a mac and linux i wont be happy
[11:58] <Dejavu> btw .. how much is linux vulnerable to attacts as compared to winxp ?
[11:58] <weejamer> unless i am using windows in vmware
[11:58] <HappyFool> yeah, i'm looking forward to linux spyware
[11:58] <tenco> which fonts do i need to install to view mathml in konqueror?
[11:58] <ORiON2012> vot3: man, /etc/profile or bashrc doens't work?
[11:59] <weejamer> i think windows is a black hole for spyware... just sucking it all in
[11:59] <oceandead> Dejavu,  attacks such as
[11:59] <ORiON2012> vot3: nm, that's the same suggestion HappyFool had
[11:59] <thoreauputic> Gator for Linux !
[11:59] <HappyFool> vot3: /etc/profile might only apply to login shells
[11:59] <chicken-man> Dejavu, Linux is far more secure that windows
[11:59] <oceandead> spyware? none on linux tiko - viruses not unless you share stuff between it and windows
[11:59] <Dejavu> oceandead: net attacks .. like hacking .. trojans and stuff ..
[11:59] <oceandead> and as for gaping holes...a lot less
[11:59] <mikhail^> Does anybody here use the anjuta IDE?
[12:00] <weejamer> windows is rubbish for hacks thats why i block it from the net
[12:00] <oceandead> though its easy to get pwn3d
[12:00] <oceandead> no matter what
[12:00] <abyss> everytime ill try to modprobe the rt2500.ko it says :
[12:00] <abyss> FATAL: Module rt2500.ko not found.
[12:00] <abyss> y?
[12:00] <thoreauputic> abyss: leave the .ko off
[12:00] <ORiON2012> vot3: I have no idea how to do this except for something like a bash script that would set it explicitlly
[12:00] <oceandead> try modprobe rt2500
[12:00] <Dejavu> humm . well thats one thing i like abt it .. tough im trying to completely swith to linux:D
[12:00] <abyss> thoreauputic, it wont work too
[12:00] <tenco> which fonts do i need to install to view mathml in konqueror?
[12:01] <abyss> FATAL: Module rt2500 not found.
[12:01] <oceandead> sudo modprobe rt2500
[12:01] <abyss> root terminal
[12:01] <__fabrice__> add it to your /etc/modules and reboot
[12:01] <HappyFool> vot3: can you maybe describe what you want to do in more detail? maybe something like 'rsync' would be an appropriate tool
[12:01] <demantik> fluxbox kicks ass...gnome can go to hell ;)
[12:01] <oceandead> heh
[12:01] <vot3> HappyFool: what other kind of shells are there
[12:01] <chicken-man> woohoo Fluxbox
[12:01] <demantik> :D
[12:01] <oceandead> i like xfce
[12:01] <thoreauputic> __fabrice__: if he can't modprobe it, it ain't there
[12:02] <HappyFool> vot3: non-login ;). If you start a gnome-terminal, it won't be a 'login' shell
[12:02] <weejamer> what  wanna know is how does MS not finally do somthing about the problems... look at linux it is secure so why don;t they work hard and build a winux
[12:02] <demantik> yeah xfce is nice...but..it hasnt been working properly lately..fluxbox is still better imo.
[12:02] <ekimus> evilwm!
[12:02] <demantik> winux..lmaio
[12:02] <oceandead> doh! that sucks demantik
[12:02] <thoreauputic> weejamer: Philosophy 101
[12:02] <vot3> happyfool: my girlfriend logged into my computer using winscp as she uses windows, but every file she uploads is -rw, as in i want to move the folders she uploads straight to another directory but first i have to change the permissions on them
[12:02] <demantik> hah
[12:02] <weejamer> lindows was taken demantik
[12:02] <oceandead> yeah right ...that would actually take effort on their part
[12:02] <HappyFool> abydos: i don't have a rt2500.ko file on my system; maybe you don't either?
[12:03] <oceandead> theyre not about quality product
[12:03] <tenco> which fonts do i need to install to view mathml in konqueror?
[12:03] <vot3> and it seems to me like there would be an easy way to set default permissions for files/folders uploaded by users, like umask. i am quite surprised the umask entry in /etc/profiles did not work to
[12:03] <HappyFool> vot3: hmm
[12:03] <srid> what does the DVD iso contain apart from the packages in normal Install CD?
[12:03] <vot3> the umask i am looking for is 0000, correct?
[12:03] <oceandead> 000
[12:03] <vot3> ah
[12:03] <vot3> maybe that explains it
[12:03] <vot3> i will try again
[12:03] <HappyFool> vot3: if she's always copying to a specific directory, there may be an easier way
[12:03] <oceandead> allows all rw
[12:03] <weejamer> why make somthing thats perfect when you can make somthing with faults so the customer will rely on you.... some day that will backfire on microsoft
[12:04] <mikhail^> will upgrading to Breezy (eventually when it's released) be as "painless" as the upgrade from Warty to Hoary?
[12:04] <srid> mikhail^: hopefully
[12:04] <oceandead> only way to find out is to wait and see i guess
[12:04] <Dejavu> srid: if ur talking abt the ubuntu new dvd ... i think it gives u option to liveboot and install linux !
[12:04] <thoreauputic> mikhail^: my crystal ball says the sky will fall
[12:04] <vot3> HappyFool: it usually is a specific directory.
[12:05] <srid> Dejavu: yes, but are there *extra* packages in it?
[12:05] <oceandead> heh
[12:05] <mikhail^> I don't wanna work with any other distro now that I've seen Ubuntu..
[12:05] <srid> Dejavu: the DVD iso is of size 2.5g !
[12:05] <oceandead> it did for me but its early yet
[12:05] <mikhail^> (for a desktop distro that is)
[12:05] <HappyFool> vot3: you can try settings the 'set GID bit' on the directory permissions (chmod g+s directoryname)
[12:05] <HappyFool> vot3: then the files created in that dir be always be of the same group as the directory
[12:05] <oceandead> i must say, i love ubuntu
[12:05] <vot3> no, that does not sound right.
[12:06] <vot3> what do you mean same group as the directory?
[12:06] <tenco> which fonts do i need to install to view mathml in konqueror?
[12:06] <HappyFool> vot3: well, the idea is you set the directories group to a group your user is a member of
[12:06] <Dejavu> srid: not much i know of it .. but alot of goodies like wine and samba and tons of library files
[12:06] <HappyFool> vot3: alternatively, just setup samba, and use that for file transfer
[12:07] <oceandead> i dont see a driver module for the rtl8180 chipset in breezy, too bad
[12:07] <vot3> and if that group is one that all users share then they will all have +rw to all files uploaded in those dirs?
[12:07] <shortcircuit> required update to kernel 2.6.10-34.4 broke my sound
[12:07] <vot3> HappyFool: why is samba an alternative? would'nt it have trouble with these permissions too?
[12:07] <HappyFool> vot3: hmm. well, you should at least have read rights
[12:07] <vot3> well i can read them
[12:07] <vot3> but i cannot move the folders because a different user put them there
[12:08] <HappyFool> hrm
[12:08] <vot3> if i put my user in her group i will have +rw to her files right?
[12:08] <HappyFool> no
[12:08] <oceandead> is x going to be modular at release? i like that i can take out the drivers i dont need
[12:08] <HappyFool> not necessarily -- depends on group permissions
[12:08] <ORiON2012> vot3: scp doesn't use a login shell, I've tested locally and by adding "umask ***" to my bashrc (or whatever rc your shell uses it works it worked for me
[12:08] <vot3> how do i set group permissions?
[12:08] <oceandead> at breezy release, that is
[12:08] <Michael> Hi, where is the archive grup.conf or lilo.conf?
[12:09] <HappyFool> ORiON2012: so scp *does* look at ~/.bashrc ?
[12:09] <HappyFool> Michael: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:09] <ORiON2012> for me it does
[12:09] <oceandead> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:09] <HappyFool> lilo.conf is probably in /etc
[12:09] <chicken-man> can some one tell me how i would reinstall grub after i install windows 98 ?
[12:09] <HappyFool> ORiON2012: cool, will remember that
[12:09] <vot3> ORiON2012: so it would not work for files transfered using scp? what kind of protocol does scp use? because it connects on my sshd
[12:09] <HappyFool> !grub
[12:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:09] <HappyFool> chicken-man: see those urls
[12:09] <n> I've just tried the latest opensuse beta and I'm very impressed with its 'Suspend to disk' shutdown/boot feature which has halved my boot time. Will breezy implement this too?
[12:10] <marcin> oceandead: afaik there is no linux driver for rtl8180
[12:10] <marcin> oceandead: you need to use ndiswrapper (8180 - wireless NIC - right?)
[12:10] <oceandead> ah, but there is ...well at least the ones with certain frontends
[12:10] <ORiON2012> vot3: is a cron script not feasible for your intentions?
[12:10] <oceandead> ill find the link -
[12:10] <vot3> i do not know what a cron sciprt is, but it sounds like overkill
[12:10] <HappyFool> can't you add 'umask 0000' to your girlfriend's ~/.bashrc ?
[12:11] <vot3> this seems like such a small easy thing, ubuntu is very configurable about everything else, i do not see why i would have to script for this
[12:11] <graabein> hey guys, i have no sound. i ran alsamixer and it says master [off] 
[12:11] <vot3> HappyFool: i would, but i do not understand the syntax of the file.
[12:11] <oceandead> http://rtl8180-sa2400.sourceforge.net/
[12:11] <HappyFool> vot3: ah. just add that command on a line by itself
[12:11] <Michael> ok. Thak you
[12:11] <HappyFool> vot3: say, at the bottom
[12:11] <thoreauputic> graabein: did you hit "m" to unmute?
[12:11] <Dejavu> is there a possibiliy of a Kernel that has a super support for Graphics ?
[12:11] <ORiON2012> I transfered via scp a file from a server with "umask 002" in my bashrc and it worked
[12:11] <oceandead> ive used them with my dwl-650 v.M1
[12:11] <n> suspend ram to disk feature in breezy maybe, anybody?
[12:12] <graabein> thoreauputic, thanks! that did the trick!
[12:12] <thoreauputic> no worries :)
[12:12] <abyss> lo anyone can help me after reboot my mac the soundserver wont work
[12:12] <HappyFool> vot3: no quotes though -- just        umask 0000
[12:13] <n> Are there any ubuntu developers here?
[12:13] <vot3> i thought it was umask 000
[12:13] <HappyFool> either should work
[12:13] <thoreauputic> vot3: either
[12:13] <HappyFool> n: try #ubuntu-devel  , though they might be off for the weekend
[12:13] <oceandead> what happened to glxinfo ?
[12:14] <Sp4rKy> hi
[12:14] <oceandead> "command not found"
[12:14] <thoreauputic> oceandead: X on breezy is in a state of flux
[12:14] <Sp4rKy> anyone knows a software as viavoice but over gnome ???
[12:14] <ORiON2012> constant flux
[12:14] <oceandead> ah, ok. thanks thoreauputic
[12:14] <weejamer> how do i burn mp3 to a cd (am a new linux user)
[12:15] <topyli> HappyFool: yeah, there's only about 130 people on #ubuntu-devel :)
[12:15] <PurpleMotion> ORiON2012:  thats exactly how i capitalized the hostname for my irc server ;)
[12:15] <abyss> please anyone help me the sounds works but after reboot ot wont work :/
[12:15] <oceandead> gnomebaker, k3b, etc etc
[12:15] <ORiON2012> PurpleMotion: not sure I follow you
[12:15] <PurpleMotion> nvm
[12:15] <HappyFool> topyli: ok, my mistake
[12:15] <thoreauputic> topyli: but no one has spoken for 45 minutes
[12:15] <dmoyne> Hello ! ; Is Brezy installable !
[12:15] <vot3> can someoen explain to me how wine works?
[12:16] <topyli> idlers and slackers
[12:16] <abyss> Rhytmbox say cannot open ressource for write access
[12:16] <ORiON2012> PurpleMotion: you weren't referring to the group were you?
[12:16] <weejamer> how do i burn mp3 to a cd (am a new linux user)
[12:17] <vot3> ORiON2012: after i edit her .bashrc file this way is there any service i would need to restart for the changes to take effect?
[12:17] <PurpleMotion> no i was referring to my old irc server, though i have *coughaffiliationscough* with the group as well
[12:17] <topyli> weejamer: do you want an audio cd or just burn the mp3 files on a data cd?
[12:17] <vot3> ORiON2012: because i edited that file and it still does not work
[12:17] <mrttm> hi all
[12:17] <mrttm> I need your help now
[12:17] <weejamer> audio cd toyli
[12:17] <mrttm> I'm a newbie with ubuntu
[12:17] <mrttm> I'm impressed by ubuntu
[12:18] <weejamer> topyli sorry audio cd
[12:18] <abyss> what i have to use for deinstall a module?
[12:18] <abyss> what ive installed via insmod
[12:18] <mrttm> I have probs with my Davicom  NIC card
[12:18] <ORiON2012> PurpleMotion: I swear it's just a coincidence,a lthough I wish it wasn't
[12:18] <mrttm> i've read through the forum
[12:18] <thoreauputic> mrttm: just ask - if someone can help they will
[12:18] <topyli> weejamer: i use serpentine. gnomebaker should work too
[12:18] <oceandead> well well
[12:18] <mrttm> but I couldn;t found how to solve this probs
[12:18] <bz0b> so is ubuntu really the most popular distro at the moment?
[12:18] <bimberi> abyss: rmmod
[12:18] <ORiON2012> vot3: I just sourced my bashrc and it worked
[12:19] <topyli> abydos: rmmod
[12:19] <bz0b> or is it just the most used?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> bz0b: according to distrowatch, yes
[12:19] <oceandead> imo, best distro around
[12:19] <bz0b> thoreauputic, yes, i saw that
[12:19] <thoreauputic> bz0b: not the most used
[12:19] <weejamer> thanx topyli i will give it a try
[12:19] <vot3> ORiON2012: sourced it?
[12:19] <dmoyne> Please is "Breezy" installable ?
[12:19] <vot3> ORiON2012: what does that mean?>
[12:19] <mrttm> anyone can help me
[12:19] <ORiON2012> source ~/.bashrc
[12:19] <bz0b> yes, imo too, i actually am using kubuntu, but there really isnt much diffrence
[12:19] <bz0b> it was wierd
[12:19] <oceandead> dmoyne, it hasnt been released yet - tell ya anything?
[12:19] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: installable, yes. Usable maybe
[12:19] <abyss> damn y my soundserver cannot play sound now?
[12:19] <mrttm> I can't access to anywhre, my LAN, Internet
[12:20] <topyli> bz0b: well it's the most viewed distro page on distrowatch. we don't know what that means really
[12:20] <bz0b> unbuntu was freezing on me at times
[12:20] <bz0b> topyli, true
[12:20] <Sp4rKy> anyone can help me please
[12:20] <bz0b> topyli, what do you use?
[12:20] <topyli> bz0b: distro? ubuntu
[12:20] <bz0b> and what is the "best" distro in your opinion, and why?
[12:21] <HappyFool> mrttm: what hardware do you have? What version of ubuntu have you installed? Please give us more details
[12:21] <ORiON2012> bz0b: windows? :P
[12:21] <weejamer> topyli  i got to a stage where i am about to burn thanx for that
[12:21] <thoreauputic> bz0b: oh, we really think buntu sucks - that's why we're here ;)
[12:21] <oceandead> hahaha
[12:21] <jonko> zijn er nederlanders hier
[12:21] <jonko> ?
[12:21] <dmoyne> ok thanks last time I tried it I experienced problems with Xorg and therefore I prefer to wait ! ; maybe one question when you install something new like this and it does not work how can you back up to you last good installation set-up with apt ?
[12:21] <bz0b> thoreauputic, exactly ;-)
[12:21] <HappyFool> !start a distro war
[12:21] <ubotu> kubuntu rules over mandriva
[12:21] <mrttm> HappyFool, I use Hoary U5.04
[12:21] <topyli> bz0b: i like ubuntu on the desktop. it's like a stable version of debian unstable that i used earlier :)
[12:21] <srid> ubotu, test
[12:21] <ubotu> Crashed.
[12:21] <bz0b> topyli, and 1 cd!
[12:22] <thoreauputic> !distrowar
[12:22] <ubotu> ubuntu is better than yggdrasil !!
[12:22] <ORiON2012> lol
[12:22] <mrttm> my NIC is Davicom Semiconductor
[12:22] <abyss> i had before i rebooted 2 sounddevices
[12:22] <srid> somebody say my nick
[12:22] <shortcircuit> required update to kernel 2.6.10-34.4 broke my sound
[12:22] <abyss> now i have only a alsa
[12:22] <weejamer> srid
[12:22] <oceandead> my nick
[12:22] <srid> ok
[12:22] <weejamer> oceandead
[12:22] <mikhail^> has anybody had any success in building dynamic library projects with Anjuta in Hoary?
[12:22] <topyli> bz0b: yep. though i'd rather install from the net
[12:23] <HappyFool> mrttm: that is a normal network card? (i.e., ethernet)
[12:23] <topyli> bz0b: oh, and ubuntu always has the latest gnome! that's pretty important
[12:23] <mrttm> yes
[12:23] <ORiON2012> if you really can't find a distro you like then try LFS and leave all other distro chans and forums alone
[12:23] <mrttm> I've look around the forum
[12:23] <jonko> hallo
[12:23] <mrttm> and found mayny people had the same probs
[12:24] <HappyFool> jonko: #ubuntu-nl vir nederlands
[12:24] <vot3> ORiON2012: i sourced bonnie's .bashrc file inculding the umask command and the files i copy over vie scp are still locked to me in nautilus, can you explain why?
[12:24] <bz0b> topyli, how do I do that from the install cd?
[12:24] <mrttm> but no one give the complete solution
[12:24] <bz0b> topyli, since I really wanted to install from the net
[12:24] <ORiON2012> vot3: no, I cannot
[12:24] <bz0b> topyli, then it allows you to choose the packages you wnat right? and are up-to-date
[12:24] <mikhail^> vot3: are you copying it as root into your user's directory?
[12:25] <dmoyne> What is LFS ?
[12:25] <ORiON2012> linux from scratch
[12:25] <ORiON2012> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[12:25] <HappyFool> mrttm: your card is not listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[12:25] <rob^> linux for suckers
[12:25] <vot3> mikhail^: i do not think so. these are files she left in a directory inside of her home directory for me. but my user does not automatically have write access to files and folders in her home dir, and that is what i want
[12:25] <dmoyne> yes but when you have it installed how di you find packages you have to recompile everything ?
[12:26] <mrttm> no no, I think it's supported
[12:26] <topyli> bz0b: it's not supported
[12:26] <mrttm> because ubuntu can recorgnize this
[12:26] <topyli> bz0b: at least in hoary
[12:26] <HappyFool> mrttm: ok, so what isn't working? I'm still not really sure what your problem is
[12:27] <bz0b> topyli, huh?
[12:27] <mrttm> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54886&highlight=davicom
[12:27] <topyli> bz0b: net install
[12:27] <mikhail^> vot3: you're going to have to add write and read permissions to 1) her home directory and then 2) the diectory you want to have access to.
[12:27] <bz0b> topyli, oh
[12:27] <mrttm> you can read this topic
[12:27] <bz0b> topyli, is it possible to do a net install though?
[12:27] <mrttm> this is my probs as the guy : Underxp
[12:27] <mikhail^> vot3: or, your and her user should be in the same group at least.
[12:27] <topyli> bz0b: i don't think so
[12:27] <ORiON2012> bz0b: hoary is pretty dated, so is breezy (but not nearly as much), if you want cutting edge try gentoo or debian sid, or LFS
[12:27] <vot3> mikhail^: ok, then what is the -R switch used for in chmod?
[12:28] <vot3> mikhail^: can it just be a mde up group that they are both in?
[12:28] <mikhail^> vot3: man chmod
[12:28] <Dejavu> hey does anyone know where i can get Game Installers ? (linux installers)
[12:28] <rob^> Dejavu, loki games
[12:28] <mrttm> I do as the blind0wl said
[12:28] <topyli> bz0b: hoary is hardly "dated" :)
[12:28] <mrttm> but still not work
[12:29] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: http://www.liflg.org/
[12:29] <mrttm> and I still don't  now how to reload module dmfe in kernel
[12:29] <topyli> bz0b: sorry, talking to ORiON2012
[12:29] <mrttm> because when I remove the tulip module
[12:29] <thoreauputic> topyli: OMG MY APPS ARE 6 MONTHS OLD ! WTF ???
[12:29] <Dejavu> rob^: aaa ... i dont think its working .. it says no connection to Databasr
[12:29] <mrttm> the eth0 config disappear
[12:29] <rob^> Dejavu, well it was working the other day, try again later
[12:29] <ORiON2012> topyli: compared to debian sarge, sure, compared to gentoo's package tree, it is
[12:29] <vot3> mikhail^: so if i used chmod -R on her home directory i would not normall have to worry about teh dir in her home dir where the files i want to change are, would i?
[12:29] <topyli> thoreauputic: heh. some things like evince are old though
[12:30] <thoreauputic> ;)
[12:30] <ORiON2012> topyli: but I'd never switch
[12:30] <abyss> lo i found the problem anyone can show me what stands in your /etc/modprobe.conf?
[12:30] <Dejavu> rob^: will do .. maybe they are updating or something :D
[12:30] <rob^> maybe
[12:30] <HappyFool> mrttm: how about the pci=noacpi line?
[12:30] <Dejavu> aaa...  anyother place i can find some installers ?   :D
[12:30] <topyli> ORiON2012: i care about gnome most, and ubuntu is the most up to date on that front. i think 2.10 has just now hit sid
[12:31] <mikhail^> vot3: if you do that on her home directoy, the changes will be made recursively in all her files and directories in her home directory.
[12:31] <mrttm> yes
[12:31] <mrttm> i've tried but still not work :(
[12:31] <HappyFool> hmm
[12:31] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: http://www.liflg.org/
[12:31] <ORiON2012> for the second time
[12:31] <vot3> mikhail^: ok, now would an scp file transfer or ssh login do anything to change those permissions? because that is what has been happening. i set the mode i want and then she logs in and transfers files and they ignore the mode i have set, they are locked to me.
[12:31] <Michael> how to  Define modprobe.conf ?
[12:31] <mrttm> HappyFool, how can I reload the module of kernel
[12:31] <HappyFool> mrttm: try 'modprobe'
[12:32] <mrttm> I tried
[12:32] <HappyFool> mrttm: i'm not sure exactly what you mean, though
[12:32] <abyss> WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf exists but does not include /etc/modprobe.d
[12:32] <HappyFool> mrttm: what module do you want to load?
[12:32] <abyss> how i can fix that?
[12:32] <Dackel> hello
[12:32] <Dackel> i have a question
[12:32] <mrttm> dmfe
[12:32] <mrttm> I removed tulip module
[12:32] <HappyFool> ok
[12:32] <mrttm> and want to reload dmfe module
[12:32] <HappyFool> isn't it already loaded?
[12:32] <mrttm> like wbeck did
[12:33] <HappyFool> lsmod|grep dmfe will tell you
[12:33] <mikhail^> vot3: well, it depends... if her user has a .bashrc that resets her permissions (or umask), then yes, that'll happen.
[12:33] <Dackel> Grub is in the ass and now i don't know, how I can boot Ubuntu for repair Grub
[12:33] <mrttm> yes
[12:33] <mrttm> still have dmfe
[12:33] <mrttm> and not tulip
[12:33] <mrttm> but the eth0 still can't not appear
[12:33] <HappyFool> hmm
[12:33] <mrttm> util I do modprobe tulip again
[12:33] <vot3> mikhail^: well i added the line: umask 000 to her .bashrc but it has not helped. is there some service i need to restart first?
[12:33] <HappyFool> try 'modprobe -r dmfe' and then 'modprobe dmfe'
[12:33] <Pega> Hmm. I am having problems with apt-get install. It goes well, finds everything, tells me that after extracting x amount of space will be used and asks me to continue (y/n). I press y and then it stops, like I would have pressed n. :|
[12:34] <mrttm> ahha
[12:34] <mrttm> yes, i'll try now
[12:34] <Dejavu> is there a Multimedia player that can stream videos from te web that MediaPlayer on Win does ?
[12:35] <mikhail^> vot3: is the copying the files over from somewhere into her home directory? or is she copying from that directory down to her remote location?
[12:35] <mosh> woo hoo
[12:35] <mosh> finaly
[12:35] <HappyFool> Pega: hmm. have you run 'apt-get update' recently ? (just a guess)
[12:35] <mosh> so is Ubuntu good for a novice linux user?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> vot3: this all seems rather tortuous - if you have read access to her dir you can scp the files to your own home dir and the permissions will say they belong to you
[12:35] <Pega> HappyFool, hmm. Not for a while. Installed updates from the button in the corner of the screen.
[12:35] <Dackel> or should I do a re-install?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> then you can write to them...
[12:35] <mrttm> HappyFool
[12:36] <mrttm> I've success
[12:36] <mrttm> thanks
[12:36] <mrttm> I'm so stupid
[12:36] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: I think it's preserving perms and for some reason umask isn't being set, worked for me in my bash scenario, bot won't work for vo3.
[12:36] <mrttm> I tried to find how to reload module
[12:36] <Dackel> Thanks for your answers, you ass hole
[12:36] <HappyFool> mrttm: not at all
[12:36] <Hobbsee> mosh:  yes, it's great for a newbie - i installed it about 2 days ago, and am loving it...
[12:36] <mrttm> reload = stop -> start
[12:36] <mrttm> I'm so stupid
[12:36] <mrttm> thanks again
[12:36] <Dackel> +s
[12:36] <mikhail^> ORiON2012: how about restarting the ssh server?
[12:36] <HappyFool> mrttm: you may want to 'blacklist' the tulip module somehow -- i'm not sure how that's done
[12:36] <HappyFool> mrttm: glad i could help
[12:37] <mosh> Awsome
[12:37] <mosh> I just need to get this going and get Halflife2 running;)
[12:37] <Evan> im having problems installing the PHP server
[12:37] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: couldn't hurt, but I really have no idea why it works fine for me and not for vot3
[12:37] <HappyFool> Pega: hmm. ok, try running 'sudo apt-get update' at the command line, and try again
[12:37] <mrttm> yes
[12:37] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: all I did was add the umask and source my bashrc and it worked
[12:37] <mosh> whats best... the DVD or the CD instal???
[12:37] <srijith> !lamp
[12:37] <mrttm> but now I must do it all the time I start the machine ?
[12:37] <ubotu> somebody said lamp was Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:37] <mrttm> or I can't remove it permanent ?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> mosh: the best bit's the community support - you'd never find all this for windows...google does find things, but not as much as it does for ubuntu
[12:38] <mrttm> or I can remove it permanent ?
[12:38] <Hobbsee> mosh: either, makes no difference
[12:38] <HappyFool> ORiON2012, vot3: could be the windows scp client (complete guess)
[12:38] <mikhail^> ORiON2012: maybe he has multiple umask statements in his .bashrc file
[12:38] <ORiON2012> vot3: are you using WinSCP?
[12:38] <mosh> ok yeah i figure its the best way to go since i have 939 Venice core..
[12:38] <ORiON2012> mikhail^ & HappyFool : both are certainly possible
[12:39] <Pega> HappyFool, didn't help
[12:39] <HappyFool> mrttm: maybe add 'tulip' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist -- i'm not sure that's right
[12:39] <mosh> im going to guess linux HL2 sucks though because of wine...
[12:39] <mrttm> yes
[12:39] <mrttm> tks
[12:39] <HappyFool> Pega: hmm. and no error message?
[12:39] <ORiON2012> mosh: not really, I haven't noticed any difference between my windows andlinux boxes
[12:39] <mrttm> i'll find myself
[12:40] <mosh> I normaly get like 200 fps in windows...
[12:40] <Hobbsee> mosh: why dont you try and see?  dual boot it...
[12:40] <mrttm> to improve my stupid mind
[12:40] <bz0b> see yall soon
[12:40] <mrttm> if I had a probs again
[12:40] <mosh> lol version me.
[12:40] <mrttm> I'll ask you
[12:40] <mrttm> do you have YM nick ?
[12:41] <Pega> HappyFool, nothing. Just "Do you want to continue (y/n)?" and whatever I press, it acts if I had pressed n.
[12:41] <mosh> Im running the live version
[12:41] <mosh> lol
[12:42] <akanja> Hi everybody!
[12:42] <vot3> ORiON2012: i am using winsco to test the downloads, but no, i am trying to just use nautilus to move the files into MY home dir after she has uploaded them into HER  home dir from her remote location
[12:42] <DarkRaika> hi
[12:42] <Dejavu> is there a Multimedia player that can stream videos from te web that MediaPlayer on Win does ?
[12:42] <mrttm> goodbye and tks again, HappyFool
[12:42] <akanja> anybody ready to guide me a bit through 'hoary sound hell' :-) ?
[12:43] <HappyFool> mrttm: cheers
[12:43] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: vlc
[12:43] <HappyFool> Pega: and if you just hit enter?
[12:43] <vot3> the thing is i ghave to keep changing and keep changing these modes everytime a new file comes in
[12:43] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, should i do "apt-get install vlc" ?  and will it automatically start when i click on the stream button ?
[12:44] <vot3> instead of the permissions on the file being what i want them to be
[12:44] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: what is this magical steram button you speak of?
[12:44] <Pega> HappyFool, you just made me a happy fool. :)
[12:44] <Pega> It is alive!
[12:44] <thoreauputic> vot3: then as I said. all you need is read access - if you scp the files as yourself the ownership will change to your user, which means you can then write to them - have I missed something? Works here...
[12:44] <Pega> Or sumthing. works anyways. thx
[12:45] <HappyFool> heh. still, a bit odd. you'd think y would work
[12:45] <ORiON2012> vot3: sorry but I'm out of ideas, it works for me, doesn't for you, its either a client issue or something wrong with .bashrc (assuming that's the file you put it in)
[12:45] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, i mean when i get accros a video that can be directly streamed (or viewed) so i dont have to download it
[12:45] <vot3> ORiON2012: i think it should be working too, what you suggested. do i need to source the .bashrc file as root?
[12:46] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: how wide of a network are you looking to stream to? over the internet? or just a lan?
[12:46] <vot3> thoreauputic: i have no reason to scp the files as my user, it is useless. i have nautilus
[12:46] <HappyFool> the .bashrc file should be consulted everytime your girlfriend runs scp
[12:46] <ORiON2012> as whatever user you are transfering the files as, ~/ will apply to whatever user you are currently acting as
[12:46] <thoreauputic> vot3: *cough* it's the same whether you do it in nautlus or CLI
[12:46] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, ill send u a link .. maybe that can help me explain :)
[12:46] <HappyFool> vot3: try testing it yourself, using scp to copy to localhost; maybe you can debug it that way
[12:47] <vot3> well i am running winscp under wine to test the file transfers, that is what i have been doing
[12:47] <vot3> every file i send over has the incorrect permissions when it lands in nautilus
[12:47] <HappyFool> hmm
[12:47] <HappyFool> ok, try just 'scp' from the command-line? same thing?
[12:47] <akanja> I installed hoary on a machine with a soundblaster 128, (plus an i810 onboard sound) . The SB128 turned out to be faulty, so i ripped out of the box and re-enabled the onboard sound  in BIOS. But can't get the sound working.... Read the wiki, searched google.... and got lost in all the contradicting and outdated information, hmmm
[12:48] <zerboxx> Does anyone here use linksysmon??
[12:48] <ORiON2012> vot3: Is WinSCP proven to be fully functional under wine?  This could be part of the problem
[12:48] <ORiON2012> vot3: Why not use scp fromt he commad line to test?
[12:48] <vot3> everything i have ever used under wine has been perfect
[12:48] <vot3> ORiON2012: i am not familiar with scp
[12:49] <vot3> i am more comfortable with a gui, as well
[12:49] <topyli> vot3: you hardly need winscp to use scp on linux
[12:49] <ORiON2012> vot3: man scp, its' really easier than you think
[12:49] <HappyFool> scp src localhost:/home/vot3/dst
[12:49] <vot3> thoreauputic: i was testing it out for her, because she uses windows and i wanted to make sure it would work
[12:50] <thoreauputic> vot3: ahh - OK my bad :)
[12:50] <topyli> vot3: gftp can use ssh too
[12:50] <HappyFool> just use scp to test -- i.e., to check if the problem is winscp or your server setup
[12:50] <ORiON2012> vot3: I assure you that winscp works flawlessly under windows, we can
[12:50] <ORiON2012> can't make that assumption for linux
[12:50] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, goto "www.bbcworld.com/clickonline"  ... check the link on the middle left side .. it says winmeadia "low,med,high". the whole show can be viewed from the site ..
[12:51] <Brainbug> Question: Is there guide for "visual programming" under ubuntu? I come from a visual studio background and i'm looking something similar. The languaje can be either C/C++ or C#.
[12:51] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: it's probably windows media player 9, if you figure out an easy way to make it work, let me know
[12:52] <catfox> morning all. i'm just starting to use glade, and i've got a problem.
[12:52] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, lolz .. will do :)  .. thanks for helpin tough !
[12:52] <catfox> i've added a toolbar, and i want the buttons to align to the right, like regular gnome apps. but i can only get them on the left of the window. does anyone know how to get them on the right?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> vot3: re: GUI - you can drag and drop files over scp/sftp using nautilus - just type ssh://user@hostname
[12:53] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: you can't use helix or relaplayer to play the stream?
[12:53] <vot3> thoreauputic: i am not the one making the connection though, she is. all i need is for the files she uploads to have the correct permissions so i do not have to chmod everytime she uploads something
[12:53] <milksteak> mplayer plugin for firefox should work
[12:54] <iba> what do i do.. i put the install cd in and i get kernel panic - attempted to kill init!
[12:54] <vot3> i am doing something wrong, the umask command will work when i figure out what it is
[12:54] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, ive tried realplayer .. it does works .. but on somesites it dosent (winmed9 is req). i havent tried helix so far
[12:54] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: I take that back, works fine in mplayer-plug-in
[12:54] <vot3> i do not understand the point of 'sourcing' a file though
[12:54] <vot3> that is where i went wrong
[12:55] <ORiON2012> Dejavu:  sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:55] <HappyFool> vot3: you don't need to source the file, unless you want to test it
[12:55] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, np .. i was just checkin the ubuntu unofficial guide . and in it there is an mplayer plugin ... ill try that and if successful , ill let u know :)
[12:55] <urezin> halt
[12:55] <HappyFool> vot3: it should get 'sourced' when the connection is made
[12:55] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, yeah .. thats the one ..
[12:55] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: ignore that, I'm on breezy, I keep forgetting
[12:55] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: oh, nvm then
[12:55] <hexion> hello
[12:56] <topyli> vot3: the environment specified by bashrc only takes hold at new shells or after sourcing the file
[12:56] <iba> anyoner?
[12:56] <Dejavu> ORiON2012, lolz .. u need a soda break ;)
[12:56] <vot3> topyli: the connection from winscp would be considered a new shell though right?
[12:56] <hexion> when I try to install ati drivers, an error occurs. It is "nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file"  Anyone can help me???
[12:56] <Brainbug> It's there a guide to helping making programs for the ubuntu project?
[12:56] <HappyFool> vot3: fwiw, samba has a 'force create mode' option, which will let you specify a mode for files it creates
[12:56] <ORiON2012> vot3: I only sourced the file because I was in a terminal, I (stupidly) assumed you were too
[12:57] <volvoguy> is anyone else having problems with the new kernel that showed up in hoary recently?
[12:57] <iba> ..
[12:57] <vot3> ORiON2012: actually i am in a terminal.
[12:57] <volvoguy> my system won't even boot now. :(
[12:57] <topyli> vot3: i have no idea :)
[12:57] <hexion> please somebody help me :(
[12:57] <hexion> when I try to install ati drivers, an error occurs. It is "nawk: error while loading shared libraries: libm.so.6: cannot open shared object file"  Anyone can help me???
[12:57] <ORiON2012> Dejavu: nah, I just need another lugradio eps to keep me calm
[12:58] <HappyFool> hexion: are you following the instructions on the wiki?
[12:58] <HappyFool> !ati
[12:58] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:58] <hexion> ok, Ill read it. Thanks
[12:58] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: ubotu is your best friend :)
[12:59] <hexion> I'm new in ubuntu, I come from suse and its all different :)
[12:59] <HappyFool> nah, he's got too much attitude ;)
[12:59] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: I noticed, Ubuntu, the hippy of linux has a rude bot...
[12:59] <hexion> thanks a lot, I read it and come back to tell you if I solved it or if I need your help :)
[01:00] <HappyFool> hexion: cool. it should work ;)
[01:00] <hexion> one last thing..
[01:00] <hexion> I downloaded a -bin file (50 MB) from ati.com
[01:01] <hexion> should I better do an app-get?
[01:01] <ORiON2012> ok, this is depressing me, does anyone have advice for vot3?
[01:01] <HappyFool> my word of advice is to use samba instead
[01:01] <HappyFool> create an anonymous, wolrd-writeable share
[01:02] <dockane> hi all
[01:02] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: oh, vot3 left
[01:02] <Dejavu> by everyone .. and thanks for the help :)
[01:02] <HappyFool> or alternatively, create a restricted share and use the 'force create mode' option
[01:02] <HappyFool> ah well
[01:02] <thoreauputic> ORiON2012: is she upploading files to *his* home dir, or to an accoun of her own? If the second, he can read her files in her home dir on his box and cp them to his own home dir to change the ownership - I think he has it all backwards
[01:03] <hexion> I think Ill follow the wiki instructions and make an app-get (I suppose the 50 MB of the .bin file will go to the trash)
[01:03] <HappyFool> he wanted to move the files, not just copy them
[01:03] <reiki> can someone check www.yardbird.net and see if it's up? And is there a general network outage in the US .... possibly great lakes area?
[01:03] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: he's downloading files to her home, which he loggged in as whie testing, but he couldn't read those files from HIS home
[01:03] <dockane> i am looking for a way to make the updates indicated by the 2 red arrow circle in the upper right corner of gnome install automagically and silently. whats the best way ?
[01:04] <zerboxx> If I want to run a program every 30 minutes, how would I do this (I've read to use cron, but I have no idea what I'm to do)?????
[01:04] <hexion> Im loving ubuntu... theres no comparison with suse
[01:04] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: but with the correct umask it shuldn't matter... right
[01:04] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: but *nix quite rightly doesn't allow users to move other people's files
[01:04] <topyli> reiki: yardbird seems to be down
[01:04] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: yeah, his higher-level requirements were a bit fuzzy. i'm also not sure why he chose scp over samba
[01:05] <thoreauputic> *shrug*
[01:05] <mikhail^> ORiON2012: you did say while she's logged in, right?
[01:05] <hexion> I have to reboot. Thanks happyfool
[01:05] <hexion> bye
[01:05] <HappyFool> good luck
[01:05] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: I thought he logged in AS her
[01:05] <reiki> topyli: thanks.. very weird
[01:06] <mikhail^> ORiON2012: If she doesn't log out and log in again, the .bashrc wouldn't take effect
[01:06] <ORiON2012> mikhail^: logged in as her via winscp wine, then tried to copy the files via nautilus ( his real user)
[01:06] <ORiON2012> I just thought the whole winscp was a bit weird
[01:06] <thoreauputic> ORiON2012: I don't mean to be rude, but I think PEBCAK in his case
[01:07] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: I have no comment senator
[01:07] <thoreauputic> ORiON2012: heh ;)
[01:08] <funkyHat> how can i enable system sounds without locking up alsa (i have software mixing set up, but still gnome locks up the soundcard)
[01:13] <andre80> hi
[01:13] <andre80> i m andre from indonesia
[01:13] <Hobbsee> hi andre
[01:13] <andre80> hi hobbsee
[01:14] <andre80> i m new to ubuntu, i just received my cd today
[01:14] <andre80> I connected to internet via bluetooth modem
[01:14] <thoreauputic> andre80: welcome :)
[01:14] <andre80> will anybody tell what should I download so that I can connect to internet
[01:14] <andre80> rite now I m stil using my windows box
[01:15] <andre80> I happen to like ubuntu and planning to migrate as soon as possible
[01:15] <abyss> exists anywhere a memory managing prog for ubuntu?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> abyss: well, yes - it's called the linux kernel I believe...
[01:16] <thoreauputic> abydos: what do you mean "memory managing" ?
[01:17] <Frafra> hi all
[01:17] <andre80> hi Frafra
[01:17] <thoreauputic> abyss: sorry that was for you not abydos
[01:17] <Frafra> I've read http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:18] <Frafra> then... i've try to install qemu (with apt-get):
[01:18] <Frafra> [...] 
[01:18] <Frafra> Preconfiguring packages ...
[01:18] <Frafra> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file
[01:18] <Frafra> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:18] <Frafra> who can help me?
[01:18] <andre80> about bluetooth modem ...
[01:18] <satafterh> hello everyone
[01:18] <abyss> thoreauputic, cause if i start the system and all was started it use 200mb of memory and 100mb free
[01:19] <abyss> but if i start some progs and end it again the memory wont be free
[01:19] <satafterh> where can I download the lastest stable kernel and what verson would that be??
[01:19] <thoreauputic> abyss: linux handles all that
[01:20] <_mario> where can i get spamassassin from?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> abyss: it uses as much memory as possible -RAM is orders of magnitude more efficient than disc
[01:20] <_mario> do i have to add an additional apt-source?
[01:20] <abyss> thoreauputic,  it cannot be that my systems eat with no use 305MB memory
[01:20] <funkyHat> andre80, it looks like noone knows, can you give us some more info about the modem? like a model number or manufacturer?
[01:20] <thoreauputic> abyss: most of what you see is cache and buffers
[01:20] <HappyFool> _mario: it's in universe
[01:21] <_mario> HappyFool: that means? what to do for me?
[01:21] <HappyFool> !repos
[01:21] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:21] <HappyFool> mario: read those two links; they should help. let us know if they don't
[01:21] <_mario> HappyFool: oki
[01:21] <andre80> !repos
[01:21] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:21] <andre80> !bluetooth
[01:21] <ubotu> andre80: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:22] <andre80> !driver
[01:22] <ubotu> andre80: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:22] <HappyFool> andre80: try '/query ubotu' if you want to ask the bot lots of questions
[01:22] <andre80> thx
[01:23] <andre80> I just recognize that ubotu is a bot
[01:23] <HappyFool> andre80: also looke on https://wiki.ubuntu.com, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex for more info
[01:23] <thoreauputic> abyss: type " free -m " in a terminal and read the cache and buffers - subtract to get a better idea of your memory use
[01:23] <HappyFool> you may find info about your hardware there
[01:23] <satafterh> I have an amd atlon 2600+ running a 386 kernel, would I notice any differance with a k7 or 686 kernel
[01:23] <vot3> can someone help me with repairing a package on my computer? i installed the set@home program from a debian package instead of using synaptic and now i have problems
[01:24] <andre80> ubotu doesn't respond
[01:24] <ubotu> andre80: I give up, what is it?
[01:24] <HappyFool> andre80: type something in the query window (e.g., ubotu)
[01:24] <funkyHat> this is so annoying. whenever i upgrade packages, or install new ones, synaptic says that they are 'NOT AUTHENTICATED'. things like the kernel, which really should be authenticated...
[01:24] <mikhail^> anybody here has any experience with autotools?
[01:24] <bimberi> andre80: in a /query window the ! at the start is no longer required
[01:25] <andre80> ubotu said nothing
[01:25] <andre80> I tiped a lot there
[01:25] <ubotu> andre80: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:25] <HappyFool> vot3: have you tried 'sudo dpkg --purge <packagename>'
[01:25] <chicken-man> How do i delete my second Linux partition /dev/hda2 ?
[01:25] <funkyHat> does everyone else's software authenticate properly?
[01:25] <HappyFool> andre80: hmm
[01:25] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: do an apt-get update
[01:26] <HappyFool> andre80: works for me
[01:26] <HappyFool> andre80: try '/msg ubotu ubotu' and see what happens
[01:26] <azriel0184> ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass
[01:26] <bimberi> andre80: that might be because your nick isn't registered
[01:26] <andre80> i just registered my nick
[01:26] <vot3> HappyFool: thank you
[01:26] <andre80> and ubotu starts listening
[01:26] <andre80> thx
[01:27] <abyss> thoreauputic, Mem:           313        284         28          0         14        150
[01:27] <chicken-man> i need to delete my second ubuntu partition how do i do it ?
[01:27] <bimberi> andre80: that was quick :)
[01:27] <nophix> chicken-man: sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[01:27] <thoreauputic> abyss: I assure you the linux kernel is handling your memory just fine
[01:27] <andre80> he has no clue
[01:27] <HappyFool> andre80: look on the wiki; you will find more info there
[01:28] <HappyFool> https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:28] <vot3> does anyone here use setiathome?
[01:28] <andre80> ubotu has no clue, oh my
[01:28] <ubotu> andre80: Are you on ritalin?
[01:28] <andre80> where can I get an answer to my question
[01:28] <andre80> wiki oh wiki here I come
[01:28] <ORiON2012> yup ubotu knows all about 42
[01:29] <chicken-man> i think i done it how do i check all my partitions ?
[01:29] <andre80> and he ask me wether I m on ritalin
[01:29] <andre80> !ritalin
[01:29] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, andre80
[01:29] <andre80> !dweeb
[01:29] <ubotu> andre80: What?
[01:29] <andre80> !driver
[01:29] <ubotu> andre80: What?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> andre80: ubotu only knows what he has been told :)
[01:29] <Habib> who are you man?
[01:29] <andre80> can I teach him something ? :)
[01:29] <andre80> can I can I ?
[01:30] <chicken-man> how do i see what partitions i have ?
[01:30] <HappyFool> chicken-man: sudo fdisk -l
[01:30] <thoreauputic> chicken-man:  fdisk -l
[01:30] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: ubotu knows the ultimate meaning of life, what more could it need?
[01:30] <dawkirst> When will an official release for OpenOffice.Org2 happen?
[01:30] <Habib> you ask mee??
[01:30] <andre80> how about cat partitions at /proc
[01:30] <chicken-man> it's still showing /dev/hda2 :-(
[01:30] <thoreauputic> !life
[01:30] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:30] <ORiON2012> dawkirst: that would be a question for openoffice.org
[01:31] <thoreauputic> !love
[01:31] <ubotu> Love is just a collection of electrochemical reactions and synaptic discharges
[01:31] <Hobbsee> dawkirst: no idea, but it seems to be pretty stable now
[01:31] <thoreauputic> hahah
[01:31] <Habib> hahahha
[01:31] <dawkirst> Hobbsee: I see.
[01:31] <andre80> !stable
[01:31] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, andre80
[01:31] <andre80> !yes
[01:31] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, andre80?
[01:31] <chicken-man> how do i delete /dev/hda2 ?
[01:31] <andre80> use partition magic
[01:31] <liable> fdisk
[01:31] <liable> cfdisk
[01:31] <vot3> can someone tell me how to fix this error? Connecting to alien.ssl.berkeley.edu[128.32.18.176] :21... connected.
[01:31] <abyss> thoreauputic, exists a way to disable any effects on system cause i have only a ppc 400mhz
[01:31] <vot3> Logging in as anonymous ...
[01:32] <Habib> People of america! you will wake up to a another world to morrow!!
[01:32] <vot3> Login incorrect.
[01:32] <HappyFool> and the people not of america? the same world?
[01:32] <azriel0184> ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass
[01:32] <HappyFool> vot3: looks like it's not allowing anonymous logins
[01:32] <ORiON2012> vot3: something tells me your login info is not correct
[01:32] <Habib> yes
[01:32] <thoreauputic> abyss: I don't understand your question - if you are still worrying about your RAM, you misunderstood what I was saying
[01:33] <liable> hSTFU.
[01:33] <vot3> HappyFool: how do i configure it to login as my user name, any idea?
[01:33] <HappyFool> vot3: what are you trying to do?
[01:33] <andre80> People of Ubuntu, you will wake up in friendship tomorrow
[01:34] <ORiON2012> koombai-ah my lord...
[01:34] <HappyFool> vot3: i think you can create a .netrc file for auto ftp username/password, but that is seriously '90's ;)
[01:34] <abyss> thoreauputic,  no i understand but cpu usage like 20 - 30 %
[01:34] <Habib> what cain of device.??
[01:34] <ORiON2012> Habib: huh?
[01:35] <_mario> HappyFool: i got it working, thx!
[01:35] <abyss> thoreauputic, if i only move the mouse for a while
[01:35] <Habib> what did say!??
[01:35] <vot3> HappyFool: i am trying to use the setiathome client
[01:35] <HappyFool> _mario: great
[01:35] <HappyFool> vot3: i'm afraid i'm not familiar with that software; maybe read their homepage, or look in /usr/share/doc/setiathome (or /usr/share/doc/<packagename>) for more
[01:36] <vot3> HappyFool: thank you
[01:36] <andre80> I have trouble opening wiki ubuntu
[01:36] <thoreauputic> abyss: is your mchine very slow? Or just reasonably OK for a 400mhz machine?
[01:36] <chicken-man> what is the normal Dos win98 partition called the are a lot of dos :-/
[01:36] <andre80> !fire
[01:36] <ubotu> andre80: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:36] <HappyFool> FAT
[01:37] <andre80> fat32
[01:37] <HappyFool> chicken-man: don't erase extended partitions willy-nilly
[01:37] <HappyFool> andre80: what's the problem with the wiki?
[01:37] <tomaj> how do you stop kernel updates from changing a specific entry? do you have to put it on the end?
[01:37] <abyss> i think for 400mhz risc a little bit slow
[01:37] <tomaj> sorry this is in reference to grub
[01:37] <andre80> no more problems, just now I cannot open
[01:38] <andre80> I m new to ubuntu
[01:38] <HappyFool> tomaj: I think put the entries after '## END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST'
[01:38] <tomaj> no other way?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> abyss: if you want to reduce the load, you can use a different desktop - for example install xfce4
[01:38] <srijith> or fluxbox :)
[01:38] <chicken-man> what one ? theres a W95 FAT32 and a W95 FAT32 (LBA) ?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> srijith:  +1   ;)
[01:39] <andre80> o ya ubuntu works fine on my fujitsu box
[01:39] <srijith> for a new machine for with LBA chicken-man
[01:39] <HappyFool> chicken-man: maybe paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on a pastebin so we know what you're talking about
[01:39] <srijith> new as in not an old machine
[01:39] <andre80> fujitsu laptop i mean
[01:39] <chicken-man> what is LBA ?
[01:39] <katzor> does anyone know if we have chances to see anjuta-2* in breezy?
[01:40] <ORiON2012> katzor: not sure, but woud be nice
[01:40] <srijith> logical block addressing
[01:40] <ORiON2012> katzor: anjuta 2.* is still very much in testing
[01:40] <chicken-man> i am going to delete my /dev/hda2 partition which is my old ubuntu one and replace it with a dos one so i can reinstall windows 98 SE
[01:40] <ORiON2012> katzor: so most likely not
[01:40] <katzor> ORiON2012, too bad
[01:40] <srijith> chicken-man, http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesLBA-c.html
[01:40] <katzor> ORiON2012, thenks fr the info
[01:40] <andre80> buhuhu ubuntu not yet support bluetooth modem buhuhu
[01:41] <chicken-man> i'll just try the W95 FAT32
[01:41] <andre80> ubuntu anak yg manis, anak manis janganlah merokok sayang kl merokok... lho kok merokok ...
[01:41] <katzor> ORiON2012, i would complie it myself, but i dot get gsl compiled, which is a dep
[01:41] <chicken-man> woohoo done
[01:42] <chicken-man> wish me luck, i got to reinstall grub after grrrr
[01:42] <ORiON2012> katzor: it's in breezy, gsl that is
[01:45] <abyss> thoreauputic, how about java runtime for ubuntu?
[01:46] <BollocksMacenzie> Could someone tell me what is wrong with this command. It keeps coming up with a syntac error... zenity --text-info --text-info-filename=acpi.txt
[01:46] <thoreauputic> !java
[01:46] <ubotu> I heard java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:46] <thoreauputic> abyss: ^^^^
[01:46] <abyss> thx
[01:46] <azriel0184> ok, this is getting annoying... im trying to setup a smb printer and it wont print a test page. i am sure i have the host and printer name right, and there is no user/pass
[01:46] <BollocksMacenzie> I've tried every combination of quotemarks and = and it still doesn't work.
[01:46] <blrich> has anyone had experiences here with a geforce fx 5500 randomly crashing their machine with 'nvidia-glx' installed and xorg using driver nvidia?
[01:46] <ORiON2012> go-go gadget wiki
[01:46] <blrich> because i have =P
[01:46] <andre80> !j2ee
[01:46] <ubotu> andre80: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:46] <ORiON2012> !j2se
[01:46] <ubotu> ORiON2012: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:46] <andre80> !yes
[01:47] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, andre80?
[01:47] <ORiON2012> useless
[01:47] <andre80> !useless
[01:47] <ubotu> Not a clue, andre80
[01:47] <blrich> can anyone help? having problems with a geforce fx5500, can't find anything on the forums
[01:47] <Hoxzer> OriOn: are you usefull anymore?
[01:47] <andre80> !brain
[01:47] <ubotu> andre80: I give up, what is it?
[01:47] <HappyFool> BollocksMacenzie: hmm. maybe the file needs to have a specific syntax?
[01:47] <ORiON2012> Hoxzer: never have been
[01:48] <Hoxzer> :< sad
[01:48] <HappyFool> BollocksMacenzie: allow --help-text-info doesn't imply that, so i guess not
[01:48] <andre80> may I help you by teaching ubotu a thing or two
[01:48] <andre80> ubotu too stupid to ask to
[01:48] <ubotu> andre80: No idea
[01:48] <thoreauputic> andre80: if you want play with the bot, do it in /msg please
[01:48] <andre80> ubotu shut up
[01:48] <ubotu> andre80: I give up, what is it?
[01:48] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: is problem fixer extraordinaire
[01:48] <thoreauputic> !botabuse
[01:48] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[01:48] <BollocksMacenzie> HappyFool: I know it's driving me nuts!
[01:50] <HappyFool> BollocksMacenzie: hmm. try   zenity --text-info --filename=acpi.txt
[01:51] <HappyFool> BollocksMacenzie: that --help-text-info is apparently out of date -- check the GNOME help (System -> Help) instead
[01:51] <BollocksMacenzie> It works, and yep, I think the information is rather out of date!
[01:52] <Aklys> can someone help me out with figuring out what my sound card is that doesn't work with ubuntu
[01:52] <Aklys> but it was detected and worked with fedora so trying to figure out the difference
[01:53] <HappyFool> !sound
[01:53] <ubotu> from memory, sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[01:53] <HappyFool> those links might help you get started
[01:53] <Aklys> thanks
[01:54] <andre80> Aklys: what is your sound card ?
[01:54] <somedude_> Hey!
[01:54] <ORiON2012> Oh wise HappyFool (kind of a misnomer), where can we learn your awesome bot powers?
[01:54] <funkyHat> thoreauputic, you know you said do an apt-get update? well i'll let you know once it's done... :/
[01:55] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: ? it won't run or what?
[01:55] <HappyFool> ORiON2012: :P. /query ubotu and type 'help'. also 'ubotu' -- gives you an URL where you can search the factoids
[01:55] <funkyHat> no, it's just taking forever because some of the repos are timing out
[01:55] <somedude_> when installing i only got to configure a non root useraccount, and i got package failures.. tried to fix them but couldnt as non root.. ???
[01:55] <ORiON2012> HappyFool: sweet
[01:56] <HappyFool> somedude_: use 'sudo' to get root access; read the link below
[01:56] <HappyFool> !sudo
[01:56] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:56] <Fub> has anyone had problems with the kernel update from today?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: :(
[01:56] <somedude_> ok, *reading*
[01:56] <HappyFool> Fub: a few people have, it seems. i haven't rebooted since installing it
[01:56] <Fub> it's giving me a kernel panic
[01:56] <thoreauputic> Fub: judging by the questions here, a number have, yes
[01:57] <jfk303> hey, all my desktop icons have gone, and right click doesn't work on the desktop anymore, whats the command to restart the desktop? pkill gnome or something??
[01:57] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: heh -I haven't installed a new kernel for 58 days (had trouble with the update then too)
[01:57] <ORiON2012> and after all these kernel issue, it's going to be runnning for a while
[01:57] <funkyHat> i do have hoary-extras and nooms. they seem to be causing some problems, but they shouldn't affect authentication of core packages should they?
[01:58] <Fub> is there a simple way to make a rollback?
[01:58] <guzu> hello all
[01:58] <somedude_> HappyFool, aha.. ok thanks! One more liittle Q - whats the password? Do i set it the first time i sudo or??
[01:58] <thoreauputic>  21:58:16 up 58 days,  6:16,  2 users,  load average: 0.06, 0.01, 0.00
[01:58] <HappyFool> somedude_: it's your user password (whatever you login with)
[01:59] <guzu> anybody knows a way to make isa sound card work with ubuntu (5.04) ?
[01:59] <somedude_> aah, ok.. weird! but ill try.. my first with ubuntu! :) used slack a few  years back.. ! Thanks again :)
[01:59] <ORiON2012> thoreauputic: if only I had the cash for the electricity bill to keep everything running all the time...
[01:59] <guzu> gravis ultrasound ace
[02:00] <jfk303> just got disconnected, its not pkill gnome :), did anyone answer my question: how to (not restart now) but fix my desktop?
[02:00] <somedude_> *poff*
[02:00] <Fub> do anyone if I can go back to my previous kernel?
[02:00] <thoreauputic> ORiON2012: hey it's winter here - I cut down my heating bill by runnng my boxen 24/7 ;-)
[02:01] <ORiON2012> Fub: you can select previous kernels at the bootloader (grub) menu on boot
[02:01] <Aklys> what does "pass isapnp=0 to modprobe" mean?
[02:02] <Fub> ORiON2012, hmm... bummer, there aren't any that works
[02:03] <HappyFool> Aklys: i *think* it means add "isapnp=0" to the end of the modprobe command
[02:03] <Fub> I guess it didn't keep the one from before today's update
[02:03] <guzu> Aklys, maybe means "don't probe for isa pnp"
[02:03] <HappyFool> Aklys: so, 'sudo modprobe modulename isapnp=0' -- that is a guess, though
[02:03] <ORiON2012> Aklys: I know it's used in ALSA quite a bit
[02:04] <ORiON2012> Aklys: In fact it's in the ALSA-configuration.txt
[02:04] <Aklys> it's mean to be done for when you have a isa card
[02:04] <Aklys> oh ok not sure what the modulename is then
[02:04] <jaqkar> aloa
[02:06] <guzu> Aklys, are there any docs for setting up an isa sound card in ubuntu?
[02:06] <HappyFool> Fub: yeah, looks the kernel upgrade overwrites /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386
[02:06] <guzu> or alsa
[02:06] <Sauron21> hi ...I was wondering if anyone could tell me how to run .jar files on ubuntu....I have all of javas programms(java development kit and runtime file).....I just dont what the command is to run the fil
[02:06] <guzu> Sauron21, try java -jar *jar
[02:06] <HappyFool> Fub: i have one idea, which might not work. Do you have an ubuntu live cd ?
[02:07] <Sauron21> that does not work.....
[02:07] <Fub> well, I'm trying to download an install cd
[02:07] <HappyFool> !java
[02:07] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:07] <Aklys> guzu looking at the one that HF triggered for me
[02:07] <Sauron21> it just say that "java" is not a command
[02:07] <Fub> but my internet is slow right now for some reason
[02:07] <guzu> Sauron21, then you have not java in your path, find out where it is
[02:08] <HappyFool> Fub: well, anyway, my idea is to boot from the livecd, chroot into your ubuntu install, and use dpkg to install an older kernel
[02:08] <Sauron21> how do I do that?
[02:08] <HappyFool> to install java, please see the url ubotu posted earlier
[02:08] <guzu> Aklys, since i've logged in, i see no link
[02:08] <Fub> HappyFool, can't I boot into linux from an install cd
[02:08] <guzu> HappyFool, do you know of any doc available for setting an isa sound card in ubuntu>?
[02:09] <Fub> ?
[02:09] <Sauron21> I think my java is in /usr/java/
[02:09] <Sauron21> isent that where it should be?
[02:09] <Fub> nm
[02:09] <guzu> Fub, try linu root=/dev/yourrootpartition
[02:09] <ORiON2012> Sauron21: that all depends
[02:09] <Fub> I'll download the live cd
[02:09] <HappyFool> Fub: the live cd might be easier; the install CD is less flexible
[02:09] <guzu> Fub, of course you can start also the linux on live cd :)
[02:09] <HappyFool> guzu: um, not sure
[02:09] <morbidi> Fub: if you know command line
[02:09] <morbidi> sure
[02:10] <manu__> hey ciao
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Sauron21: /usr/java/ is not in your pathe by default
[02:10] <thoreauputic> *path
[02:10] <manu__> i m looking to upgrade from debian to ubuntu
[02:10] <manu__> maybe you can help me
[02:10] <manu__> i m scared to loose my files
[02:10] <ORiON2012> Sauron21: mine happens to be in /usr/lib, it all depends on where it was installed, if it was installed at all.
[02:10] <topyli> manu__: don't upgrade, it can be messy. make a new installation
[02:11] <guzu> wich .deb provides isapnp?
[02:11] <manu__> and i just paste my main folder from debian ... wright?
[02:11] <manu__> so i can keep my files
[02:11] <HappyFool> isapnptools -- i think -- it's in universe
[02:11] <guzu> manu__, you probbably wanna save your /home partition
[02:12] <thoreauputic> guzu:  do  apt-cache search isapnp
[02:12] <manu__> yes
[02:12] <topyli> manu__: is your /home on a partition of its own?
[02:12] <guzu> thoreauputic, k thnx
[02:12] <manu__> yes
[02:12] <manu__> think so
[02:12] <theine> Is somebody packaging Quake III already?
[02:12] <topyli> manu__: then it's easy. install ubuntu, but don't format the /home partition
[02:13] <manu__> ok
[02:13] <topyli> manu__: but don't "think". you have to be sure :)
[02:13] <manu__> never
[02:13] <manu__> hihihiihih
[02:13] <guzu> lol
[02:13] <topyli> hah
[02:13] <ORiON2012> theine: why? It's so much fun to build from source.
[02:13] <guzu> manu__, to be safe, save the content of /home somewhere, like another hard drive or an dvd
[02:13] <manu__> yes
[02:13] <manu__> i have externel drive
[02:14] <manu__> this should work
[02:14] <manu__> so i just boot from the cd
[02:15] <manu__> and install new ubuntu
[02:15] <manu__> so thanks a much guzu
[02:15] <manu__> :)
[02:15] <guzu> manu__, nothing to thank for
[02:16] <manu__> maybe see one s again
[02:16] <jaqkar> thoreauputic: howdie mate :)
[02:16] <thoreauputic> hi jaqkar :)
[02:17] <topyli> q3a packages would be nice
[02:20] <guzu> csound
[02:20] <guzu> wrong kbd sorry
[02:20] <giggsey> Grub help - If I add my windows installation as a grub option, and have it first on the list, do I have to have 'boot' on the last line of the entry
[02:21] <guzu> giggsey, default=0
[02:21] <giggsey> o_O
[02:21] <guzu> to make it default
[02:21] <giggsey> ok
[02:21] <ompaul> giggsey, the setting default= points at which stanza after the the section commences that it points at
[02:21] <giggsey> so if its last
[02:22] <giggsey> it will be 3
[02:22] <Belutz> topyli: what happened at sept 7?
[02:22] <ompaul> giggsey, if it is the third stanza
[02:22] <guzu> giggsey, yes if you have 4 entries
[02:22] <giggsey> ok
[02:22] <vot3> hello #ubuntu
[02:22] <vot3> even though i just switched to kde
[02:22] <ompaul> hello vot3
[02:22] <guzu> giggsey, note that default=... should appear before any menu entry
[02:22] <vot3> how are you all?
[02:22] <topyli> Belutz: gnome 2.12 should be released, and breezy preview should come out :)
[02:23] <giggsey> that will mean no 'boot' at the end of Windows option
[02:23] <guzu> giggsey, yes
[02:23] <guzu> see info grub for examples
[02:23] <Belutz> topyli: ic... sept 7 is also my birthday hehehehe lol
[02:23] <ompaul> vot3, given that there are 477 in the channel maybe not the best of questions :)|-<
[02:23] <topyli> Belutz: nice birthday presents coming up =)
[02:24] <Belutz> topyli: yup :D
[02:25] <jaqkar> quite calm in here today :P
[02:25] <topyli> Belutz: being impatient, i broke a box at work with breezy one day. it looks pretty darn good once it stabilizes
[02:26] <Belutz> topyli: what are the main features of breezy compared to hoary?
[02:26] <thoreauputic> ompaul: for each in nicks ; do echo " $each is fine, thanks " ; done
[02:26] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[02:27] <topyli> Belutz: i only looked at gnome really. you can see the new features in davyd's "sneak peek" page
[02:27] <ompaul> thoreauputic, hehe
[02:27] <dv__> hi
[02:27] <dv__> I have a slight problem with the mouse.
[02:27] <Belutz> topyli: yup, i really like gnome compared to KDE, but i think KDE is more developed, CMIIW
[02:27] <dv__> i have a laptop with a touchpad
[02:28] <dv__> the pad works fine, except that I had to configure the tap time manually in the xorg.conf (its a synaptic touchpad)
[02:28] <dv__> I can also connect an USB mouse, however the USB mouse moves too slowly
[02:28] <dv__> and the mouse settings do not change that
[02:28] <Belutz> dv__: my synaptic touchpad runs well out of the box
[02:29] <dv__> now I forgot how the sensitivity setting in xorg.conf is naemd
[02:29] <dv__> named
[02:29] <dv__> Belutz, mine too, but I wanted that tap-to-click feature disabled
[02:29] <topyli> Belutz: they're different for sure. some people even seem to prefer kde :)
[02:29] <dv__> so anyone knows the xorg.conf option for mouse sensitivity?
[02:30] <Belutz> dv__: i once found a package that can control the synaptic touchpad, but i forgot the url :(
[02:30] <topyli> Belutz: found the page: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
[02:30] <Belutz> topyli: thx :)
[02:32] <Belutz> Along with over 200 bugs fixed, Nautilus now sports a spatial tree file view, popularised in the original Apple Macintosh operating systems. <--- WOW
[02:32] <kikito> hello guy!
[02:32] <kikito> guys
[02:33] <snippy> hello people
[02:33] <kikito> whats going on
[02:33] <brenner> Belutz: yep, wow...200 bugs
[02:33] <thoreauputic> Belutz: heh - another stick for Mac zealots to beat us with ;)
[02:33] <kikito> anybody here good with wireless connections?
[02:33] <snippy> I've got a problem with captive.. <.<
[02:34] <ompaul> thoreauputic, no ours are fixed :-)
[02:34] <jaqkar> zealots - arent those from starcraft?
[02:34] <kikito> I have quite a problem with my wireless adapter
[02:34] <snippy> Preparing LUFS kernel module... Run /usr/share/lufs/prepmod if problems occur.
[02:34] <snippy> lufs module not loaded: Try running /usr/share/lufs/prepmod to see more. at /usr/bin/captive-lufsd line 180
[02:34] <Belutz> yuppp
[02:34] <Belutz> Amaranth's SMEG is also included out of the box :D
[02:35] <hardw1re> anyone here tried compiling the latest aMSN cvs?
[02:35] <kikito> does anybody has a wireless connection?
[02:35] <kemik> kikito:  tried ndiswrapper?
[02:35] <thoreauputic> snippy: so of course you tried running /usr/share/lufs/prepmod as the message said.. and .. ?
[02:35] <kikito> yea
[02:36] <kikito> well I got the connection working up to the point of encription
[02:36] <kikito> as soon as I try to put encryption on the wireless connection everything goes bersek
[02:37] <snippy> thoreauputic  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1420
[02:37] <kikito> so right now my setting is with essid "default" and broadcast
[02:38] <thoreauputic> snippy:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:38] <thoreauputic> snippy: have you installed linux-headers-$(uname -r)  ?
[02:38] <snippy> thoreauputic  I did apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:39] <thoreauputic> snippy: OK well it's complaining you don't have a compiler, so install build-essential
[02:39] <snippy> thoreauputic  I did, hold on
[02:39] <thoreauputic> snippy: I think not
[02:40] <thoreauputic> snippy: -->  /bin/sh: gcc: command not found
[02:40] <kikito> kemik: do you have usb wireless connection?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> so, you didn't install build-essential
[02:40] <Gabriel> hello, after kernel update on my hoary PPC, I get kernel panic on reboot and I can't boot the old kernel either as it says there is no such file or directory... what should I do?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> snippy: ^^
[02:40] <kemik> kikito:  nope
[02:41] <kikito> oh
[02:41] <snippy> thoreauputic   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1421
[02:41] <kikito> kemik: do you know where I can get help for it?
[02:42] <kemik> kikito:  google/wiki/forums
[02:42] <phw> Hi folks. is there anyone who got a ati x700 (mobile) running with ubuntu?
[02:42] <kemik> kikito:  i usually find alot of good stuff on google
[02:42] <Fanskapet> hmm usb
[02:42] <Fanskapet> atleast my inbuilt wlan card works correctly
[02:42] <kikito> kemik: yea I have been googling a lot since I got ubuntu
[02:43] <kikito> I got a d-link usb adapter
[02:43] <thoreauputic> snippy: "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build" do not appear to be valid" <---  you have a mismatch I think
[02:43] <kikito> My proble is that I cant put encryption on it
[02:43] <snippy> thoreauputic
[02:44] <snippy> thoreauputic how can I fix? :(
[02:44] <kikito> at least I can connect to the web.  lets just say that Im happy to be here
[02:44] <brenner> Gabriel: search the forum for topics while you wait
[02:44] <thoreauputic> snippy: it may be looking for "kernel heaaders" - I'm not sure. Are you sure you installed the right headers ?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> snippy: Ubuntu calls them "linux headers" - maybe the script is confused?
[02:45] <snippy> thoreauputic yes, I'm sure,  I read on a forum about making a link to usr/src/linux  but I dont know how
[02:45] <kikito> does anybody has experience with wireless connections?
[02:46] <kikito> any help would be appreciated
[02:46] <thoreauputic> snippy: hmm - well I've never messed with captive so I don't know - maybe search the ubuntu forums to see if anyone has done it and has an answer?
[02:47] <snippy> thoreauputic, do you know how to make a link to /usr/src/linux ?
[02:47] <snippy> I'm confused
[02:47] <phw> kikito: fetch ndis-wrapper drivers
[02:47] <sJaM> ln -s source dest
[02:47] <HappyFool> kikito: see this?
[02:47] <phw> then fetch the inf file on your windws partition and initialize it
[02:47] <sJaM> snippy
[02:47] <HappyFool> !wep
[02:47] <ubotu> wep is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315
[02:48] <HappyFool> snippy: do you have a /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build ? and where does it link to?
[02:48] <kikito> yes I did that and I managed to get connection
[02:48] <thoreauputic> snippy: you would do something like   sudo ln -s /what/you/have  /where/you/want/link
[02:48] <thoreauputic> snippy: if that makes sense
[02:48] <snippy> snippy@isisIII:~$ /usr/share/lufs/prepmod
[02:48] <snippy> + /sbin/modprobe lufs 2>/dev/null
[02:48] <snippy> Preparing LUFS kernel module... Run /usr/share/lufs/prepmod if problems occur.
[02:48] <snippy> Running kernel version: 2.6.10-5-k7 (base version 2.6.10)
[02:48] <snippy> Destination module directory: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/fs/lufs
[02:48] <snippy> Using kernel sources: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build
[02:49] <snippy> rewrite "/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build/include/linux/modversions.h": Permission denied at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 87
[02:49] <kikito> but I had to set my router to essid "default" and no encryption
[02:49] <snippy>         main::_writefile('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build/include/linux/modversions.h', '#include <linux/version.h>\x{9}/* lufs */\x{a}#include <linux/version...') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 246
[02:49] <HappyFool> nooooo
[02:49] <snippy>         main::build_make('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build', '2.6.10-5-k7', '/var/lib/lufs/lufs.ko') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 289
[02:49] <snippy>         main::build('/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/build', '2.6.10-5-k7', '/var/lib/lufs/lufs.ko') called at /usr/share/lufs/prepmod line 156
[02:49] <deFrysk> foood :s
[02:49] <thoreauputic> !lart snippy
[02:49] <roham_> how do I install a autopackage? the file is like xxxxxxxxx.package ?
[02:49] <deFrysk> +l
[02:49] <thoreauputic> !paste
[02:49] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:49] <snippy> <_<
[02:49] <thoreauputic> snippy: NEVER do that again please
[02:49] <deFrysk> roham_, better to use a .dob from a ubuntu-repo
[02:49] <kikito> for some reason encryption does not work
[02:49] <deFrysk> .deb
[02:49] <snippy> yea ok, sorry
[02:50] <kikito> ndiswrapper finds the device
[02:50] <roham_> deFrysk ... its only a autopackage
[02:50] <topyli> roham_: are you sure there's no .deb package? what are you trying to install?
[02:50] <deFrysk> roham_, then try tio find help at #autopackage or something
[02:51] <hardw1re> Checking for required C library versions ... failed
[02:51] <roham_> topyli: yes, webcam support for gaim
[02:51] <snippy> thoreauputic did you read the error message?
[02:51] <HappyFool> kikito: have you read the wep link ubotu pasted earlier?
[02:51] <hardw1re> You need at least the following symbols in glibc: GLIBC_2.0.
[02:52] <hardw1re> ^^ anyone understand or know how to fix this?
[02:52] <HappyFool> hardw1re: what are you trying to compile?
[02:52] <hardw1re> Gaim-w
[02:52] <snippy> HappyFool, how can I check this? directory exists but I dont see where it links to
[02:52] <thoreauputic> snippy: run it with sudo prepended
[02:52] <HappyFool> snippy: ls /lib/modules/..../build
[02:52] <piotr_> hi
[02:53] <HappyFool> hardw1re: have you installed the build-essential package?
[02:53] <piotr_> Hi people this is my 1rst time in irc ;-)
[02:53] <hardw1re> i beleive i did
[02:53] <snippy> can I paste those 2 lines here?
[02:53] <HappyFool> welcome piotr_
[02:54] <DarkRaika> I have a friend thats after a wireless driver
[02:54] <DarkRaika> a
[02:54] <HappyFool> snippy: sure
[02:54] <DarkRaika> linksys wmp54g
[02:54] <snippy> arch    drivers  include  ipc     lib       mm              net      security  usr
[02:54] <snippy> crypto  fs       init     kernel  Makefile  Module.symvers  scripts  sound
[02:54] <DarkRaika> its not working for Ubuntu
[02:54] <hardw1re> The following packages have been kept back:
[02:54] <hardw1re>   arts libarts1 libarts1-dev libartsc0 libartsc0-dev
[02:54] <HappyFool> snippy: ok, so the link is there, and is probably ok; have you tried the sudo that thoreauputic suggested?
[02:54] <CyberMad> do you know any better Yahoo! Messenger client than kopete, because in Kopete i don't which person that "on SMS" or not -_-
[02:55] <piotr_> I have ubuntu to its a great Os  In poland wher I live linux is very popular Os ;)
[02:55] <snippy> HappyFool, sudo what? sudo the command for captive ?
[02:55] <hardw1re> another european :)
[02:55] <HappyFool> snippy: yip
[02:55] <thoreauputic> snippy: rerun the script, yes, with sudo
[02:55] <snippy> HappyFool, yes, without it wouldnt work
[02:56] <hardw1re> HappyFool: i did the build-essential yesterday, but i just did an apt-get upgrade on it, and got told those packages i pasted above ^^ were held back...
[02:56] <thoreauputic> snippy: your pastebin pastes don't show a sudo
[02:56] <hardw1re> i have to pop out, i should be back in a bout 10 minutes
[02:57] <HappyFool> hardw1re: hmm, not sure. that glibc_2.0 error is a bit weird
[02:57] <hardw1re> could it be my kernel?
[02:57] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64] 
[02:57] <HappyFool> i doubt it
[02:57] <thoreauputic> snippy: ah, sorry, you were root for those
[02:57] <snippy> HappyFool, thoreauputic   http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1423
[02:58] <Gabriel> brenner, i didn't find anything so i just created the post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58473
[02:58] <topyli> CyberMad: that question should be taken outside and shot. ;-) what do you mean?
[02:59] <thoreauputic> snippy: hmm - for some reason it doesn't like your kernel headers
[03:00] <snippy> :(
[03:00] <thoreauputic> snippy: ah --> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-k7   <--
[03:00] <thoreauputic> snippy: does that exist?
[03:00] <LinuxJones> Sorry for the off-topic but does anybody know of an Adobe IRC channel ?
[03:00] <snippy> thoreauputic no
[03:01] <brenner> LinuxJones: #adobe maybe?
[03:01] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: i thought the build symlink in /lib/*/modules was the 'correct' set of kernel headers to use?
[03:01] <LinuxJones> brenner, nope but thanks :)
[03:02] <dv> hmm
[03:02] <LinuxJones> brenner, google doesn't even list one :(
[03:02] <dv> manually setting the "Resolution" option doesnt work
[03:02] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: it seems to be looking for /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-k7 ?
[03:02] <dv> now the mouse has a decent speed in gdm
[03:02] <snippy> thoreauputic, putting a link may help ?
[03:02] <brenner> LinuxDolt: doubt people would bother debugging adobe reader problems :)
[03:02] <dv> but when I start gnome, it becomes slow again
[03:02] <brenner> in an IRC channel that is :)
[03:02] <HappyFool> yeah, but see the order of search ( modules/*/build comes first)
[03:02] <dv> and the mouse settings only work for the touchpad, not for the mouse
[03:03] <dv> any ideas?
[03:03] <snippy> maybe lufs is not working right?
[03:03] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: hrm - OK I'm out of my depth at this point
[03:03] <snippy> I heard its dead
[03:03] <Angrod> i got this problem with KDE, if i use my pc for more then say 8 hourse. it start working like hell, and everything starts going all slow. but when i use Gnome, it works fine. any know whats wrong? or how i can fix it? i like the look in KDE much more then Gnome, so i would like to use KDE :x
[03:03] <chicken-man> when i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help
[03:03] <brenner> dv: sys > prefs > mouse ?
[03:03] <HappyFool> also "kill_proc_info" is undefined -- seems a bit weird
[03:04] <dv> I already said that this doesnt work
[03:04] <dv> sys > prefs > mouse only affects the touchpad
[03:04] <dv> the mouse is slow as hell
[03:04] <blk> can someone help me with the problem described on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53120 - i got the same thing here!
[03:04] <brenner> Angrod: run a system monitor when it seems to be "working" heavily and see what's using your CPU
[03:04] <LinuxJones> brenner, I just have a few general questions to ask regarding some of their products. Maybe it will be faster to just give them a call :)
[03:05] <Angrod> brenner: yeah, i tried that... but the system monitor does not work :P
[03:05] <HappyFool> snippy: did you install this from ubuntu, or somewhere else?
[03:05] <brenner> LinuxJones: they have tech support?  sure, why not.
[03:05] <brenner> Angrod: can you run 'top' in a terminal?
[03:05] <chicken-man> when i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help
[03:05] <topyli> seems like ubuntu systems are unbootable today
[03:05] <loeki> does anybody can tell me how I let my computer connected with mldonkey
[03:05] <snippy> I used a german guide, its not in the repos, had to alien a rpm..
[03:06] <Angrod> brenner: yeah, that works
[03:06] <HappyFool> snippy: ah. there is a lufs-source package -- i'd use that instead
[03:06] <HappyFool> snippy: the lufs-source package is in the universe repository
[03:06] <snippy> HappyFool, I tried
[03:06] <HappyFool> snippy: and?
[03:06] <brenner> Angrod: you can use that then when it's under stress
[03:06] <snippy> HappyFool, same error
[03:07] <snippy> I'm using it atm
[03:07] <funkyHat> well apt-get update finally finished while i was away: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1425
[03:07] <HappyFool> snippy: i thought you said you were using an alien'ed rpm?
[03:07] <dv> brenner, are there any other ways of configuring the mouse?
[03:07] <funkyHat> i don't know why i get so many errors:(
[03:07] <chicken-man> when i try to do './grub-install /dev/hda' i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.' please help
[03:07] <munja> hi all
[03:08] <funkyHat> hi
[03:08] <HappyFool> snippy: i'm downloading it now; i'll see if i can figure it works here
[03:08] <munja> I am pretty new with linux
[03:08] <HappyFool> err
[03:08] <HappyFool> that is, i'll see if i can get it to work here
[03:08] <munja> especially ubuntu
[03:08] <snippy> HappyFool yes for captive, I tried to run it -> error, then I used the lufs in the repos, same error
[03:08] <munja> but I have a question
[03:08] <brenner> dv: i'm not certain, but fiddling with xorg.conf might be something...have you searched the forums for mouse topics?
[03:08] <Angrod> brenner: oki :) thanks
[03:08] <munja> if anyone is willing to help
[03:09] <dv> brenner, the xorg.conf settings are overridden
[03:09] <chicken-man> help me !!
[03:09] <dv> by i-dont-know-what
[03:09] <brenner> munja: ask away
[03:09] <dv> I set the "Resolution" option
[03:09] <dv> which works well in gdm, the mouse is fast enough there. but once I am in gnome, its slow again.
[03:09] <chicken-man> help me !!
[03:09] <funkyHat> p
[03:09] <brenner> chicken-man: if someone knows, they'll answer...repeating yourself only bugs people
[03:10] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: looks like http://public.planetmirror.com is terminally ill - try another mirror
[03:10] <munja> is there any way to install Linksys WRT54G PCMCIA wireless card?
[03:10] <snippy> HappyFool, I found a guy on a forum with the same problem, he made a new kernel because kill_proc_info is not exporting anymore in the new kernel..
[03:10] <HappyFool> snippy: ah
[03:10] <funkyHat> thoreauputic, is there a list of mirrors anywhere?
[03:10] <iiiears> Good Morning! :)
[03:11] <chicken-man> i need help now ! i need to install grub
[03:11] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: hang on
[03:11] <chicken-man> i don't want to have to boot with the live cd every time
[03:11] <brenner> evening iiiears :)
[03:11] <iiiears> Hi thoreauputic!
[03:12] <filip_> how can i play my wmv movies?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: looks like hoary-extras is the culprit - try deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:12] <funkyHat> thanks :)
[03:12] <iiiears> Hi brenner
[03:12] <chicken-man> how do i install grub on /dev/hda ?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> iiiears: hi again :)
[03:13] <HappyFool> snippy: installing this had better not eat my data, as the README claims ;)
[03:13] <guzu> chicken-man, try: grub-install /dev/hda --recheck --no-floppy
[03:13] <iiiears> Having trouble with my irc client being overflowed. - would like to find a client that won't accept private messages.
[03:14] <snippy> HappyFool :x
[03:14] <liable> umode +E
[03:14] <liable> stops all but registered
[03:14] <iiiears> spent the morning reading about snort inline and packet queues - just seems too drastic for now
[03:14] <owtput> filip_: apt-get install w32codecs
[03:14] <funkyHat> the updates seemed to authenticate ok once i ran apt-get update too :)
[03:14] <filip_> owtput: okey thanx for the fast help :)
[03:14] <HappyFool> snippy: hmm. i think you may be right about needing a different kernel
[03:15] <brenner> chicken-man: is this after a windows install?
[03:15] <martin-> nee some help: I installed a debian package (openmsx). When installing i got some reports about a different libc6 version. I chose to ignore that error and the program works fine. However, when i want to use synaptic package manager he complains about broken packages and with every action wants to remove that packages. Can i somehow let synaptic ignore broken packages?
[03:15] <owtput> iiiears: which client were u using, btw?
[03:15] <HappyFool> snippy: i get this in dmesg when i 'modprobe lufs' : lufs: Unknown symbol kill_proc_info
[03:15] <iiiears> X-chat
[03:15] <chicken-man> yes
[03:16] <owtput> martin-: you shouldn't, and i don't believe it's possible either
[03:16] <snippy> HappyFool, yeah.. the new kernel does not work with that
[03:16] <snippy> meh
[03:16] <brenner> iiiears: can't you use the ignore list and filter *@* with private enabled?
[03:16] <HappyFool> snippy: i don't know what kernel you need though, sorry - see maybe http://lufs.sourceforge.net (eek - last msg 30/10/2003)
[03:16] <iiiears> owtput - any suggestions?
[03:16] <HappyFool> snippy: what do you actually want to do with this? write to ntfs?
[03:16] <chicken-man> i get this error 'could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device.'
[03:16] <brenner> iiiears: can you try and msg me?  i'll test it now
[03:16] <LinuxDolt> i was called?
[03:16] <iiiears> brenner nice tip
[03:16] <snippy> HappyFool, lufs is dead..  yes write to ntfs, captive uses the windows drivers so no risks etc..
[03:17] <owtput> martin-: what's preventing you from using fixing-broken-packages in synaptic?
[03:17] <Brenton_> I'm having issues getting a network connection on my ubuntu 5.04 box.  It's found the nic, but I can't seem to get DHCP to work, I've tested the cord on another box and it's working fine
[03:17] <liable> you cant boot from that though..
[03:17] <topyli> martin-: better get the debian source package and build it on ubuntu
[03:17] <liable> doh
[03:17] <letschatt> my window manager doesn't load. does anyone mind helping me? i have no window manager utilities available :(
[03:17] <snippy> Captive was written to interface with the Linux kernel via LUFS. Unfortunately, this project is no longer being maintained by its author. Mounting of NTFS devices usually works, but is no longer supported by the author of Captive. Always unmount the device by umount(8) command before shutting down your GNU/Linux system.
[03:17] <snippy> A port of Captive to the newer FUSE interface has not yet been implemented. There is an experimental LUFS-FUSE bridge called lufis that can be used in the meanwhile. Also, the captive-cmdline(1) interface will get around any kernel compatibility problems.
[03:17] <LinuxDolt> oh...  someone tab-completed for a different Linux name.
[03:17] <filip_> owtpu: i cant run apt-get install w32codecs i get error and i dont find it in synaptic
[03:17] <brenner> chicken-man: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:18] <chicken-man> i've read that lol
[03:18] <brenner> chicken-man: looks like you need to mount the ubuntu filesystem first
[03:18] <chicken-man> i have
[03:18] <brenner> *partition
[03:18] <chicken-man> i am in it
[03:18] <letschatt> hi everyone. i get gnome to load but it doesn't provide any of the WM facilities
[03:18] <brenner> iiiears: did you try and msg me?
[03:18] <chicken-man> i'll try remounting i might have missed a bit
[03:19] <playback> hi, I have just installed ubuntu and have no idea what I am talking about
[03:20] <brenner> letschatt: i've heard of it....maybe try reconfiguring the xorg package?
[03:20] <letschatt> is there anyone here who doesn't mind helping me? i've got a strange situation here guys
[03:20] <playback> I have a nice virgin raid array and am trying to get it to work... please help
[03:20] <chicken-man> how do i unmount a drive ?
[03:20] <brenner> filip_: need to add hoary-extras to your repos
[03:20] <anthony> Is there any way of speeding up loading of web pages with ubunte 5.04?
[03:20] <funkyHat> chicken-man, umount
[03:20] <kemik> chicken-man:  umount
[03:21] <filip_> brenner: okey
[03:21] <kemik> it echoes in here
[03:21] <martin-> topyli, how dies that building work?
[03:21] <csj> hi,all
[03:21] <brenner> anthony: using firefox?
[03:21] <letschatt> brenner i have very limited screen space because none of my WM functions like maximize or minimize work
[03:21] <guzu> hi csj
[03:21] <letschatt> i removed metacity from gnome. could that have caused a problem
[03:22] <dsas> letschatt: yes
[03:22] <letschatt> no shidt? really?
[03:22] <brenner> letschatt: yep...it's gnome's engine iirc
[03:22] <topyli> martin-: enable unstable deb-src line in sources.list. then apt-get update, apt-get build-depends foo, apt-get -b source foo (where foo is the package)
[03:22] <letschatt> alright i am gonna put it back in
[03:22] <dsas> letschatt: that's the thing that controls maximise etc
[03:22] <martin-> owtput: the right package versions are missing according to dpkg:
[03:22] <anthony> yes fire fox
[03:22] <brenner> anthony: common problem....there are a few tweaks out there..check the forum
[03:22] <robertj> is there an rss feed of backports updates anywhere?
[03:23] <martin-> openmsx-catapult depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:
[03:23] <martin->   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14.
[03:23] <ompaul> be kind to yourself remove windows and learn the way of Freedom, not some world where vendor gratuitous changes lie ahead leaving needing their next version to allow you escape from the jail they created for you ...
[03:23] <anthony> thanks brenner
[03:23] <iiiears> brenner adding ignore "*@*"  seems to work  Thank You  -   spent 2 hours reading about packet mangling. roflmao
[03:23] <playback> can someone help me with my hard drive problem?
[03:24] <garyjr> hi im having a sound problem in ubuntu the newest one its not recognizing my sound card
[03:24] <brenner> iiiears: glad to hear......i actually thought of that myself \0/
[03:24] <brenner> iiiears: although a little bloated, xchat is pretty nice i'd say
[03:25] <filip_> how can i get hoary-extras ?
[03:25] <brenner> !repos
[03:25] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:25] <iiiears> X-chat is very nice. - configurable and easy on the eyes
[03:25] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[03:25] <ubotu> hoary-extras is, like, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[03:25] <RootX|Arphetic> Only thing i miss in Xchat is support for mIRC scripts
[03:25] <RootX|Arphetic> ;)
[03:26] <iiiears> perl?
[03:26] <brenner> i thought mirc is evil :)
[03:26] <funkyHat> um... ok this is worrying: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1426
[03:26] <RootX|Arphetic> iiiears mIRC has nice triggers
[03:26] <RootX|Arphetic>  lol [ LOL ]  = Laughing Out Loud
[03:27] <RootX|Arphetic> try !whatis lol and stuff like that
[03:27] <RootX|Arphetic> !whatis rootxen
[03:27] <ubotu> I don't know, RootX|Arphetic
[03:27] <RootX|Arphetic> rofl
[03:27] <funkyHat> does anyone else get that? (pastebin above)
[03:27] <RootX|Arphetic> err?
[03:28] <HappyFool> funkyHat: try again? it's working ok for me
[03:28] <brenner> playback: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[03:28] <erb> hi
[03:28] <funkyHat> this has been happening for 3 weeks or so ;)
[03:28] <RootX|Arphetic> This HTTP server has broken range support
[03:28] <HappyFool> funkyHat: hmm
[03:28] <filip_> should i add this deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted to my /etc/apt/sources.list to get hoary-extras ?
[03:29] <RootX|Arphetic> I think u should install some other things first?
[03:29] <HappyFool> funkyHat: not maybe a proxy problem?
[03:29] <funkyHat> filip_, yes
[03:29] <chicken-man> WooT i think i done it :-P
[03:29] <filip_> funkyHat: okey thanx
[03:29] <funkyHat> HappyFool, if it is, then it's my ISP's invisible proxy, and there's not a lot i can do about it :(
[03:29] <RootX|Arphetic> chicken-man what?
[03:29] <playback> thanx brenner but I haqve nice shiny new virgin barracudas
[03:29] <ompaul> !network
[03:29] <brenner> chicken-man: well done...what was the fix?
[03:29] <ubotu> I don't know, ompaul
[03:29] <ompaul> !networks
[03:29] <ubotu> I heard networks is Menu item System - Administration - Networking and or it could be sudo pppoeconf
[03:30] <martin-> topyli: which repository do i need? I have that mirrormax repository
[03:30] <chicken-man> i done it manually using /sbin/grub
[03:30] <RootX|Arphetic> they should fix the triggers here
[03:30] <brenner> playback: ok.  i just asked ubotu for a raid topic
[03:30] <RootX|Arphetic> make it !network* instead of !networks
[03:30] <brenner> playback: have no idea about them myself
[03:30] <topyli> martin-: for unstable sources?
[03:30] <HappyFool> funkyHat: hmm. maybe mv some files in /var/cache/apt somewhere else, and retry (this is a wild guess ;)
[03:30] <martin-> topyli: yes
[03:31] <funkyHat> HappyFool, could i try cleaning the cache?
[03:31] <playback> yeah, I read that one. how about how to format another drive? not raid
[03:31] <topyli> martin-: i have deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
[03:31] <HappyFool> funkyHat: 'cleaning' as in?
[03:31] <topyli> martin-: you may want another server than fi.debian.org
[03:32] <martin-> topyli: why?
[03:32] <HappyFool> funkyHat: as in 'apt-get clean' ?
[03:32] <topyli> martin-: might get better download rates from a server near you
[03:32] <kemik> using debian archives is a bit risky
[03:32] <kemik> so you know
[03:32] <funkyHat> yeah
[03:32] <HappyFool> funkyHat: go for it. look in /var/cache/apt afterwards, see if there's a pkgcache.bin file there
[03:33] <topyli> kemik: sources should be safe as long as you build your binaries on ubuntu
[03:33] <martin-> topyli: ah ok, and which "unstable" repos wiht openmsx is there for ubuntu?
[03:33] <kemik> ah. just getting sources
[03:33] <funkyHat> HappyFool, yeah there is
[03:33] <topyli> martin-: they are just sources, they're not for ubuntu at all
[03:34] <HappyFool> funkyHat: try mv them to say <filename>.bak , and apt-get update again?
[03:34] <funkyHat> ok
[03:35] <topyli> martin-: openmsx seems to only be in debian stable, there's no unstable package
[03:35] <funkyHat> tried it, still get the same error
[03:35] <topyli> martin-: it's in breezy too
[03:36] <crevette> hello
[03:36] <kemik> if its just sources, why not download from the web ?
[03:37] <topyli> kemik: debian sources are easy to build using apt
[03:37] <topyli> kemik: you end up with a nice debian package
[03:37] <shinu> is there any ways to add a resolution to xfce? i only have 1024x768
[03:38] <HappyFool> funkyHat: hmm. I just tried to do partial download using wget on security.ubuntu.com, it worked fine
[03:38] <brenner> !tell shinu about fixres
[03:38] <HappyFool> funkyHat: "Content-Range: bytes 100-278/279"
[03:38] <shinu> brenner: thanks
[03:38] <ompaul> kemik, takes some of the work out of it, it is the version that is installed on your machine, so you are not having to look after dependancies - it is the whole idea behind running a distro, you don't have to look after 1million things just a few well targeted ones
[03:38] <maverick> folks, wats the default pwd for root ?
[03:38] <iiiears> !root
[03:38] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:39] <ompaul> maverick, there is none see the note from ubotu
[03:39] <ompaul> maverick, if you try to do something it is your password it wants to work with sudo
[03:39] <iiiears> Mac style super user policy
[03:39] <ompaul> maverick, biggest advantage, all actions are logged
[03:41] <no_dammagE> hi, can someone help me to configure automount please? somehow it won't work :/
[03:41] <brenner> more info needed
[03:42] <no_dammagE> i apt-get install autofs, so I have it now
[03:42] <borfast> hi everyone
[03:42] <HappyFool>  funkyHat: maybe you could use wget with --cache=off to get whatever file is not working, and (maybe) flush the transparent cache, if there is one
[03:42] <no_dammagE> i modified the /etc/auto.master script and added: /media/autofs /etc/auto.autofs --timeout=5
[03:42] <no_dammagE> in the auto.autofs script I have cdrom   -fstype=iso9660,ro,nosuid,nodev :/dev/cdrom
[03:43] <no_dammagE> the paths exist, but /etc/init.d/autofs start doesn't do anything, the cdrom won't be automounted :/
[03:43] <funkyHat> HappyFool, i don't seem to have any problem with wget
[03:43] <borfast> guys, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu (I'll get to that next) but I thought I'd ask, since I've seen the same thing in other IRC channels: what's with the "paste" pages, what are they for...?
[03:44] <chicken-man> time to see if my system boots :P wish me luck
[03:44] <HappyFool> funkyHat: hmm. ok, just an idea
[03:44] <no_dammagE> here is the status of autofs: /usr/sbin/automount --timeout=5 /media/autofs program /etc/auto.autofs
[03:44] <maverick> thx all
[03:44] <brenner> borfast: pastebin to avoid flodding the channel with lots of text
[03:44] <iiiears> bet you a "buck" everything is fine chicken man
[03:44] <brenner> *flooding
[03:44] <chicken-man> lol
[03:45] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell borfast about pastebin
[03:45] <borfast> brenner: but why paste it there and not here, if I want you guys to see what I'm writing? I don't get it... :|
[03:45] <borfast> wow, that's a cool bot :)
[03:45] <thoreauputic> borfast: you give us the URL
[03:45] <borfast> thanks, EasterSunshine :)
[03:46] <borfast> good idea
[03:46] <EasterSunshine> borfast: it obnoxiously takes up room, and wastes everyones time and bandwidth, especially the servers
[03:46] <iiiears> ubotu you are a genious
[03:46] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, iiiears
[03:46] <funkyHat> borfast, because the channel moves fast enough as it is, and flooding pisses people off
[03:46] <borfast> yeah, I get it, now :)
[03:46] <funkyHat> :)
[03:46] <EasterSunshine> borfast: there are 488 nicks that will receive five or more obnoxous lines on the screen when only about three or so have to
[03:46] <kemik> and if everyone were to paste, there would be chaos
[03:47] <jblu> can someone tell me what I need to use to convert .aif files to wav?  What app?
[03:47] <EasterSunshine> not to mention that the server will drop you after five lines
[03:47] <thoreauputic> kemik: there isn't already chaos?
[03:47] <funkyHat> hehe
[03:47] <iiiears> Easter. - beginning to see it the way server ops see things
[03:47] <kemik> thoreauputic:  well, even more so ;)
[03:47] <iiiears> much better to          ubotu "tell" a nick
[03:48] <thoreauputic> iiiears: except that people never check their /msg
[03:48] <martin-> topyli: what's "breezy"?
[03:48] <iiiears> lol - (shrug) - ya know we just can't win. - grin
[03:48] <EasterSunshine> martin-: the upcoming new release of ubuntu/kubunut
[03:49] <topyli> martin-: unstable ubuntu, the next release
[03:49] <crevette> I try to install the nvidia modules for Video card, but I've a dependency pb regarding xlibmesa-glu libglu or libglu1
[03:49] <kemik> and someppl dont even read what's going on in the channel.. even tho they want help :/
[03:49] <crevette> this is due to the mesa migration in breezy ?
[03:51] <crevette> There is a way to resov that, or do IO have to wait for the migration ?
[03:51] <funkyHat> according to this page: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Nvidia_.2B_Xorg i need to add some lines to xorg.conf to get GLX and composite working together, it says the second 'driver' section, but i've only got one :S
[03:51] <Freggy> Does someone know where to file bugs about f-spot in Ubuntu Breezy? There does not seem to be a component f-spot in bugzilla.
[03:51] <jpfarias> hey
[03:51] <crevette> Freduardo_> f-spot in not supported
[03:51] <funkyHat> can anyone tell me where i should put it?
[03:51] <crevette> ie not in main
[03:52] <jpfarias> anyone got problems with flash applets on firefox?
[03:52] <crevette> funkyHat> gnome bugzilla
[03:52] <crevette> bugzilla.gnome.org
[03:52] <snippy> ok I'm out of here
[03:52] <crevette> It's the better for all gnome component
[03:52] <jpfarias> It appears some fonts are missing
[03:52] <funkyHat> crevette, i'm not reporting a bug, i'm asking where to add a line to my xorg.conf
[03:52] <snippy> thanks thoreauputic and HappyFool for your help!! :)) *hugs* byebye
[03:52] <d>  I'm currently running Kubuntu Hoary w/ KDE 3.4.2. If I upgrade the kernel, will a 'Suspend to disk' option appear under the KDE shutdown menu? What kernel version do I need?
[03:52] <crevette> funkyHat> report bugs in ubuntu.org only if it is a building issue
[03:53] <HappyFool> snippy: ok, sorry it didn't work out
[03:53] <thoreauputic> snippy: bye :)
[03:53] <crevette> houps
[03:53] <funkyHat> crevette, it's not a bug!
[03:53] <crevette> Freggy> I mean
[03:53] <borfast> crap... my first try at the pastebin went wrong... the darn thing is not breaking lines and they went way past the browser width :\
[03:53] <snippy> HappyFool, it's ok;)
[03:53] <snippy> byee
[03:53] <Freggy> hm, ok, thanks, I'll check with latest upstream sources and file a bug on gnome bugzilla...
[03:53] <martin-> topyli: So not an repos i can add?
[03:54] <FortMa1> How do I configure my sound card in Ubuntu? I'm acustomed to using alsaconf, but that does not appear to installed and apt-get reports It's not available. Synaptic reports alsaconf conflicts w/other packages.
[03:54] <d> what version # did suspend to disk enter the kernel?
[03:54] <topyli> martin-: sure. i'd add the breezy deb-src repository and build the binary with apt
[03:54] <schlomo> Hi
[03:55] <schlomo> is it possible to use Ubuntu CD to boot directly to the disk ?
[03:55] <jpfarias> can someone help me with missing fonts in flash applets?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> !sound
[03:55] <ubotu> I guess sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[03:55] <topyli> martin-: since you build the package on your system, there should be no dependency conflicts and synaptic will stop complaining about broken packages
[03:56] <iiiears> Good Morning schlomo
[03:56] <iiiears> boot from the live cd and have access to the hard drives?
[03:56] <d> Do I need to upgrade to breezy of can I just update the kernel to get suspend to disk?
[03:56] <schlomo> nope
[03:56] <borfast> ok, so now I post the URL here and wait for someone to see it and reply?
[03:57] <schlomo> problem to boot to serial ATA disk
[03:57] <borfast> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1433
[03:57] <brenner> *chuckle*
[03:58] <iiiears> not familiar with them -sorry
[03:58] <thoreauputic> borfast: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:59] <brenner> borfast: general idea is to paste console output, errors and such.....and although you've done this, you've pasted a description really,....first time i've seen that :)
[03:59] <borfast> thoreauputic: I already did that before starting to install vmware-tools
[03:59] <sfacius> hi at all
[03:59] <Bjorn1> can somebody help me a sec
[03:59] <Bjorn1> i'm in the text mode
[03:59] <Bjorn1> but how do i start x again ?
[04:00] <sfacius> how i can modify mouse themes in ubuntu?
[04:00] <dsas> type startx
[04:00] <borfast> brenner: sorry, first time using pastebin, I wasn't sure what I should type :\
[04:00] <iiiears> "tartx"
[04:00] <Bjorn1> oh lol dsas
[04:00] <Bjorn1> i used start x
[04:00] <Bjorn1> -_-
[04:00] <Bjorn1> thanks anyway :D
[04:00] <thoreauputic> borfast: funny, the $(uname -r) should include the -386
[04:00] <brenner> borfast: no, i wasn't grumbling...just the first time i've seen that....might actually be a good idea :)
[04:00] <sfacius> how i can modify mouse themes in ubunt?
[04:00] <thoreauputic> borfast: what you pasted is fine
[04:01] <thoreauputic> ;)
[04:01] <deFrysk> sfacius, gcursor
[04:01] <Bjorn1> brb going to connect trough my ubuntu pc
[04:01] <sfacius> thx
[04:01] <sfacius> :D
[04:01] <dsas> you should use `uname -r` shouldn't ou?
[04:01] <dsas> i.e. include the backticks
[04:01] <thoreauputic> dsas: same thing
[04:01] <dsas> ahh ok
[04:01] <borfast> thoreauputic: I have both the kernel headers and even the kernel source (which shouldn't be necessary) in /usr/src but the darn thing says the kernel versions (the running kernel and the kernel-headers) don't match. I actually used Synaptic and not the command line apt-get
[04:01] <thoreauputic> $(uname -r) does the same as `uname -r`
[04:01] <Bjorn1> Back
[04:02] <Bjorn1> =] 
[04:02] <dsas> thoreauputic: didn't know that, noted.
[04:02] <thoreauputic> borfast: try the command I gave - maybe your kernel has been updated?
[04:02] <Bjorn1> I've another problem whenever i enable my nvidia 7800 gtx card my screen turns black :(
[04:02] <Bjorn1> And i need to disable the nvidia thing
[04:02] <Bjorn1> =/
[04:03] <thoreauputic> dsas: $(uname -r) is arguably more readable :)
[04:03] <schlomo> I have to disable RAID for Ide and SATA
[04:03] <borfast> thoreauputic: it was but it was updated right before trying to install vmware-tools. this is a completely fresh instalation of ubuntu, I just did an "apt-get update; apt-get" upgrade after installing
[04:04] <martin-> topyli: sounds good, what's the address of the repos?
[04:04] <borfast> thoreauputic: oh, and I uncommented the Universe repository in sources.list (not sure if it influences the kernel packages)
[04:04] <iiiears> !repos
[04:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:04] <thoreauputic> borfast: I was just thinking you might have selected the wrong package in synaptic - the literal command would make sure of it
[04:05] <borfast> thoreauputic: yeah, I'm going to try the shell command
[04:05] <brady> hello
[04:05] <thoreauputic> borfast: BTW I know nothing about vmware ;)
[04:05] <topyli> martin-: you can copy the "breezy sources" lines from my sources.list http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list
[04:06] <spola> i wanna buy a webcam, but im specifically looking for one that will work with ubuntu: is there a list of verified to work webcams online?
[04:06] <borfast> thoreauputic: lol. no problem, this has nothing to do with VMware itself, I think. it's just about the naming of the kernel and kernel-headers versions
[04:06] <Bjorn1> anyone :)?
[04:06] <martin-> topyli: thx
[04:07] <Alex> Hey everyone.
[04:07] <brady> I have a question about Ubuntu...This is also my first experience with linux.  It seems that there is no real video acceleration (i.e. some of the 3d screensavers seem terribly slow for what is being displayed).  Is there something I am missing?
[04:07] <m0biu5> hi Alex =)
[04:07] <dsas> Bjorn1: you did make a backup of your X config file? right?
[04:07] <Bjorn1> yes
[04:07] <Alex> Right - odd question - my LUG is using Ubuntu for an install day. Anyone got a bunch of really *mouthwatering* shots of Ubuntu's default install?
[04:07] <Bjorn1> But where is it located dsas  ?
[04:07] <Bjorn1> I just started 2 days ago
[04:07] <Bjorn1> :/
[04:08] <dsas> Bjorn1: if you didn't make a backup manually then one won't have been made.
[04:08] <brenner> spola: your lucky day: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:08] <Bjorn1> oh
[04:08] <spola> woow, it IS my lucky day!
[04:08] <Bjorn1> dsas, it said backup too blabla
[04:08] <Bjorn1> ;x
[04:09] <dsas> Bjorn1: it's probably in /etc/X11/ then
[04:09] <topyli> Alex: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=1
[04:09] <dsas> Bjorn1: or in your home directory
[04:09] <brenner> Alex: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Ubuntu504-1.png
[04:09] <Alex> Hmm
[04:09] <Alex> Thanks
[04:09] <dsas> Bjorn1: You're looking for a xorg.conf or similar.
[04:09] <Alex> topyli++
[04:09] <Alex> brenner++
[04:09] <Alex> :)
[04:09] <brenner> actaully, not quite default :)
[04:10] <topyli> Alex: for a mouthwatering shot unlike those, see http://siltala.net/comp/Hoary-desktop.jpg :)
[04:10] <Alex> Thanks.
[04:10] <Alex> Anyone know if mako hangs around here?
[04:10] <borfast> thoreauputic: I think you hit the nail on the head - I do have a kernel-headers directory in /usr/src but there's no kernel-headers package installed - don't know why, I installed it and the files are there..... :|
[04:10] <brenner> topyli: cheater! that's not default!
[04:10] <brenner> :D
[04:11] <dsas> #ubuntu-devel
[04:11] <thoreauputic> borfast: note that in ubuntu it's "linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[04:11] <dsas> whoops
[04:11] <Alex> Thanks, dsas :)
[04:11] <topyli> brenner: not by a long shot :)
[04:12] <topyli> brenner: i did link to osdir's screenshots as well though
[04:12] <thoreauputic> borfast:  dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r) to see where the files install
[04:13] <brenner> ubotu: hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:13] <thoreauputic> -----------> coffee brb
[04:13] <ubotu> brenner: okay
[04:13] <brenner> topyli: lucky break :)
[04:13] <brenner> i'll let you off this time
[04:14] <Alex> Yeah, we partially forgive you - if anyone does have a screenshot to show off though, gimme a shout in privmsg, and I might bung it on the website.
[04:14] <zapada> will ubuntu work with my usb flash stick?
[04:14] <Alex> zapada: Most probably.
[04:14] <zapada> what about digital cameras>?
[04:15] <Alex> Which camera?
[04:15] <dsas> zapada: depends on the camera
[04:15] <topyli> zapada: most of them work as simple usb drives
[04:15] <zapada> sony something
[04:15] <brenner> Alex: there are stacks of gnome desktops out there...which is pretty much *the* DE most ubuntu user's will use
[04:15] <Alex> My digi cam treats it as a USB drive
[04:15] <zapada> cool
[04:15] <guzu> mass storage device
[04:15] <Alex> brenner: Hehe :) I know - this is for new users, so we're aiming to be promoting the default
[04:16] <zapada> is there a good dvd authoring program for linux?
[04:16] <zapada> like sony's vegas/dvd architect
[04:16] <zapada> or i would just be able to wine it?
[04:17] <dsas> zapada: my digicam prompts me to copy photos when i plug it in (kodak)
[04:17] <eliphas_> I am sure one should exist
[04:17] <eliphas_> try sourceforge
[04:18] <plb> hrm does breezy colony 3 have gtk + cairo?
[04:18] <martin-> topyli: I installed the breezy src line in sources.list. I also see the repos in synpacitc but when i search; no openmsx
[04:18] <topyli> martin-: synaptic doesn't do source packages. use apt
[04:19] <topyli> martin-: apt-get update; apt-get build-depend foo; apt-get -b source foo
[04:20] <thoreauputic> apt-get build-dep  actually
[04:20] <topyli> thoreauputic: oh yeah!
[04:20] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:21] <karljp> anyone know why I have dvd audio with mplayer, but not with totem or xine?
[04:22] <sfacius> hi at all
[04:22] <sfacius> i want to modify theme of mouse but gcursor doesn't recognise index.theme. Why?
[04:22] <sneezymarble> I'm trying to install "nvidia-glx" through synaptic and before the file even downloads a dialogue pops up asking me to put the Ubunutu Installation CD in the drive.  I do, then press "ok" and nothing happens....any ideas?...
[04:23] <apella> i have a question about the x-server: how do i shut it off?
[04:23] <topyli> apella: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:23] <brenner> sneezymarble: it's using your CD as a repo...bets to disable it and just use net repos
[04:23] <brenner> *best
[04:23] <aima_> wah xchat is shit
[04:23] <thoreauputic> sfacius: when you change cursors, the change comes into effect nest time you log in (or restart X)
[04:23] <aima_> erk wrong channel
[04:23] <Bjorn1> aima_,  fu :)
[04:23] <apella> topyli: thx
[04:23] <Bjorn1> :x
[04:23] <Bjorn1> <3
[04:24] <Bjorn1> its better then mirc imo
[04:24] <Bjorn1> :D
[04:24] <aima_> Bjorn1, well sure
[04:24] <topyli> heh
[04:24] <sneezymarble> ahhh, ok that makes sense.  Thanks.  I'm very new with Ubuntu...and linux :0)
[04:24] <aima_> but at leat mirc doesn't crash when i load a script
[04:24] <Bjorn1> =] 
[04:24] <brenner> Bjorn1: but does it have cool triggers? :)
[04:24] <Bjorn1> brenner, i only use it for chatting
[04:24] <jdahm> hey anyone here have any tips on how to clean the head on my printer?
[04:24] <Bjorn1> nothing else ;D
[04:25] <brenner> Bjorn1: j/k....this conversation came up half an hour ago
[04:25] <brenner> :)
[04:25] <Bjorn1> oh
[04:25] <Bjorn1> Darn you :(
[04:25] <sneezymarble> brenner:  I'm sorry if this is an inane question...but, how do I do what you have suggested?
[04:25] <brenner> jdahm: that's very ubuntu-related :D
[04:25] <Alex> How much diskspace does the Ubuntu default (everything) take?
[04:25] <sfacius> thoreauputic the themes weren't installed
[04:25] <brenner> sneezymarble: do you know how to use synaptic/apt-get ?
[04:25] <jdahm> brenner, well I installed ubuntu and suddenly my printer makes sounds when it prints and then I cant clean it because theres no app for that
[04:26] <sneezymarble> brenner:  not really
[04:26] <aima_> jdahm, what kind of sounds?
[04:26] <brenner> Alex: 1.8gb typical
[04:26] <aima_> maybe a family of mice moved in
[04:26] <brenner> Alex: 350mb minimal
[04:26] <jdahm> aima_, normals sounds of a dirty head some scratching and I get lines in the test page where there should be color
[04:26] <brenner> sneezymarble: sys > admin > synaptic
[04:27] <Alex> brenner: Typical is what we're aiming at. Thanks
[04:27] <sneezymarble> brenner:  I understand if you don't want to explain it.  I believe I saw a tuturial on apt-get in the wiki.
[04:27] <shinu> hey
[04:27] <topyli> i should clean up
[04:27] <aima_> jdahm, is that what happened before you used linux when the head was dirty?
[04:27] <sneezymarble> I'll check there and see if I can figure it out.
[04:27] <shinu> anyone know more or less how long would an installation of ubuntu take?
[04:27] <martin-> topyli: did apt-get update but these 2 other commands won't work
[04:27] <brenner> sneezymarble: no, no biggie.....the wiki probably would explain it better anyway :)
[04:27] <apella> sorry to be irritating, but could you tell me again how to shut down the x-server? i accidently turned this thing off:)
[04:28] <damotor> hi
[04:28] <sneezymarble> brenner:  thank you though
[04:28] <brenner> sneezymarble: but what you're doing is very easy, i can walk you through
[04:28] <topyli> martin-: i made a typo. it's "apt-get build-dep" not build-depend
[04:28] <HappyFool> apella: maybe Ctl-Alt-Backspace ?
[04:28] <jdahm> aima_, yeah the printer sucks I always had to clean the head a lot and there was an app for it in windows
[04:28] <brenner> sneezymarble: open a terminal
[04:28] <sneezymarble> ok
[04:28] <brenner> sneezymarble: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:28] <thoreauputic> !start an irc client war
[04:28] <aima_> apella, "sudo /etc/init.d/xorg stop" should do it
[04:28] <ubotu> irssi is better than konversation !
[04:28] <brenner> sneezymarble: type that
[04:28] <apella> thx
[04:28] <brenner> or copy and paste :P
[04:29] <martin-> topyli: and what stand "foo" for?
[04:29] <sneezymarble> ok
[04:29] <aima_> i hope that's what apella meant
[04:29] <brenner> sneezymarble: did a file open up?
[04:29] <sneezymarble> yes
[04:29] <topyli> martin-: your package name. openmsx?
[04:29] <aima_> jdahm, is it an epson printer?
[04:29] <brenner> sneezymarble: see the top line.... it should have CD there somewhere
[04:29] <nerp> yeah, speaking of sources.list anyone have a list of repositories that actually work?
[04:29] <Brenton_> hey all, I'm having issues with my network card in ubuntu
[04:29] <HappyFool> !repos
[04:29] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:29] <sneezymarble> yes it does
[04:29] <nerp> seems like the mirrors I have are somewhat bungled
[04:29] <HappyFool> the second link should be a working sample sources.list
[04:29] <jdahm> aima_, yeah
[04:30] <brenner> sneezymarble: comment it out by putting a # character at the start of the line
[04:30] <topyli> martin-: also note that in my sources.list the source lines are commented
[04:30] <sneezymarble> gotcha
[04:30] <martin-> topyli: yes, i removed the "#"
[04:30] <aima_> jdahm, sounds like it :) there is an epson utility, I only used it once, it came on a magazine cover
[04:30] <brenner> sneezymarble: you might want to enable universe and multiverse while you're at it
[04:30] <Brenton_> I've tested the card on another computer and it's working fine, ubuntu is recognizing the card, but does not get an IP address
[04:30] <aima_> jdahm, it may even be in the apt repository
[04:30] <jdahm> I checked ut I didnt see anything aima_
[04:30] <aima_> it has mostly the same functions as the windows one iirc
[04:31] <sneezymarble> hmm, ok I see some universe stuff and I imagine I need to remove the #
[04:31] <brenner> sneezymarble: yep, you can do that by removing the # character at the start of these two lines:
[04:31] <brenner> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[04:31] <brenner> deb-src ftp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[04:31] <martin-> topyli: is there a file where i can lokup taht package name?
[04:31] <brenner> shoops
[04:31] <brenner> *whoops
[04:31] <brenner> second one should be: deb-src ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[04:32] <aima_> jdahm, escputil if it's an epson stylus
[04:32] <sneezymarble> brenner:  thank you very much
[04:32] <brenner> i'm assuming you don't want to use an australian mirror :)
[04:32] <brenner> sneezymarble: no probs, save and close
[04:32] <brenner> sneezymarble: then type: sudo apt-get update
[04:32] <topyli> martin-: use the web search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:32] <sneezymarble> I'm downloading and installing "nvidia-glx" right now
[04:32] <shin> !list
[04:32] <ubotu> list is probably you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:32] <topyli> martin-: remember to use "breezy" for the distribution
[04:33] <thoreauputic> brenner: actually last I checked the  au mirror pointed at the uk one (go figure)
[04:33] <damotor> some time ago I compiled a wireless driver module that wwasn't included in the ubuntu kernel; may the module I compiled stop working if I update the kernel version?
[04:33] <brenner> thoreauputic: really?
[04:33] <brenner> thoreauputic: that's rather naughty
[04:34] <aima_> jdahm, right going to do some gardening, i hope your printer gets better soon
[04:34] <brenner> thoreauputic: or doesn't au stand for what it's meant to?
[04:34] <jdahm> aima_, alright thanks
[04:34] <Bjorn1> australia or austria
[04:34] <Bjorn1> both are au
[04:34] <Bjorn1> :o
[04:34] <shin> italiani?
[04:34] <thoreauputic>  host archive.ubuntu.com
[04:34] <thoreauputic> archive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.138
[04:34] <HappyFool> brenner: i think uk is the 'main' repo; if a mirror doesn't exist, that is used a placeholder
[04:35] <brenner> Bjorn1: austria : at
[04:35] <Spasm> hai smua!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:35] <brenner> Bjorn1: at least i think so
[04:35] <HappyFool> afaik the south africa 'mirror' points to the uk one as well
[04:35] <thoreauputic> host au.archive.ubuntu.com  au.archive.ubuntu.com has address 82.211.81.138
[04:36] <brenner> thoreauputic: heh....so i assume you don't use them?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> brenner: I just use the au one since it's the same anyway and works fine ;)
[04:36] <brenner> heh, ok then. :)
[04:37] <brenner> what about asian mirrors?  they're closer aren't they?
[04:37] <brenner> i don't know why i'm asking...i'm on dialup!
[04:37] <brenner> doesn't make much of a diff. :D
[04:38] <thoreauputic> brenner: same here :)
[04:38] <Mabus> hi, can anyone help me with Eclipse ( https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1800 ) ?
[04:38] <nerp> oddly enough public.planetmirror.com isn't working for me..
[04:38] <nerp> before it was ftp2.caliu.info
[04:38] <thoreauputic> nerp: someone else had the same issue a while ago
[04:39] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[04:39] <ubotu> somebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:39] <nerp> thoreauputic: any solutions offered/found?
[04:39] <thoreauputic> nerp: use ubotu's URLs above
[04:39] <nerp> rgr
[04:39] <thoreauputic> mirrormax
[04:39] <martin-> topyli: Ok the second command worked but the last one gave:
[04:39] <Belutz> topyli: how to change the desktop font color from white to black?
[04:39] <chriszanf> im trying to install oss drivers and have to do it when logged out of X - when I do this I cant gain su staus to install. anyone know any answers?
[04:40] <martin-> dpkg-source: extracting openmsx in openmsx-0.5.2
[04:40] <martin-> sh: line 0: cd: openmsx-0.5.2: No such file or directory
[04:40] <topyli> Belutz: i have no idea :(
[04:40] <thoreauputic> chrissturm: sudo -i
[04:40] <Belutz> topyli:  :)
[04:40] <nerp> thanks
[04:40] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: sorry that was for you ^^^
[04:41] <nerp> 99% [Waiting for headers] 
[04:41] <chriszanf> so when ive logged out I just do: sudo -i   ?
[04:41] <nerp> planetmirror is usually overloaded
[04:41] <nerp> if it loads i'll leave it be for now
[04:41] <chriszanf> cool - thanks
[04:41] <martin-> topily: Or do i need to put something else for "source"?
[04:41] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: sudo -i gives you a root shell
[04:41] <topyli> martin-: maybe it's broken. is there in fact such a directory (openmsx-0.5.2)?
[04:41] <jdahm> ok I got the utility, but where in /dev/ is my printer (its USB1)
[04:42] <gfxstyler> hey there!!
[04:43] <topyli> martin-: i think the command is ok
[04:43] <Kudozero> hi to everyone... Sex&Longlive
[04:44] <topyli> martin-: if the package got extracted, you can do "fakeroot debian/rules" in the openmsx source dir
[04:44] <martin-> topyli: It was, my current dir was /cdrom ;))))
[04:44] <topyli> martin-: :)
[04:44] <nerp> bah, closed wrong window
[04:44] <Stiivi> hi
[04:44] <martin-> topyli: Alright, looks like it's compiling
[04:45] <martin-> topyli: what do those 3 commands do (trying to learn something)?
[04:45] <nerp> yay
[04:45] <nerp> woked finally :D
[04:45] <martin-> topyli: and what does "fakeroot" do?
[04:45] <topyli> martin-: update updates your package lists, build-dep gets all packages needed to compile the new package, and the last one compiles and builds the binary
[04:45] <Stiivi> i have migrated from mandrake to ubuntu just yesterday .... finally after solving jfs problem. the distribution looks neat! :)
[04:46] <topyli> mario: fakeroot just runs the rules file, which contains instructions for building the deb
[04:46] <topyli> martin- not mario, sorry :)
[04:46] <Bjorn1> is there an howto
[04:46] <Bjorn1> to compile source files
[04:46] <Bjorn1> :o
[04:46] <brenner> Stiivi: good to hear :)
[04:47] <martin-> topyli: Aha ok, but it doesn't put the files in the right directories? That has to be done manually?
[04:47] <Stiivi> brenner: :)
[04:47] <brenner> Bjorn1: as in install from source?
[04:47] <thoreauputic> !compile
[04:47] <ubotu> compile is, like, tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[04:47] <djcb> where can i find xfontsel? it seems to have vanished in breezy lately...
[04:48] <eliphas_> ! compiling
[04:48] <Stiivi> there was too much strange magic in the Mandrake, i gave up fighting with it
[04:48] <eliphas_> !compiling
[04:48] <guzu> how do i mount a samba share in ubuntu 5.04?
[04:48] <HappyFool> !samba
[04:48] <ubotu> somebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:49] <martin-> toplyi: Normally a debian package chooses the right directories for you, right?
[04:49] <thoreauputic> !compiling
[04:49] <thoreauputic> ah, it's too long for the channel
[04:49] <nerp> Stiivi: what sort of problems did you have with mandrake?
[04:49] <djcb> !xfontsel
[04:49] <ubotu> djcb: Wish i knew
[04:49] <brenner> Stiivi: was my first distro i used at home so i have fond memories.   i didn't know how to get my net connection up though, so i didn't really run into the RPM issues people apparently have.
[04:49] <thoreauputic> !+compiling
[04:49] <ubotu> Compiling software when you have no idea what you're doing is _not_ a good idea. You will probably end up breaking your system and you can safely assume nobody here will want to help you after that. If there is a precompiled version, just use THAT instead. Really.
[04:49] <guzu> so how do i mount a samba share in ubuntu 5.04?
[04:50] <chriszanf> trying to install oss, when I just logged out, it still says that I appear to have a kernel level sound driver installed
[04:50] <Montagh> im getting a slow connection after i installed hoary, is there something i can change or is my isp throttling me for dl too much heh
[04:50] <pumbaa> FUCK OFF
[04:50] <nerp> I've used mandrake since 7.0 up until Le 2005, did ok by me
[04:50] <Stiivi> nerp: many, but the one that was the final drop was that the network configuration was constantly changing even on small updates, so i had to reconfigure whole network when I moved between places
[04:50] <shinu> does ubuntu support widescreen laptops properly?
[04:50] <nerp> but I was looking for a change
[04:50] <brenner> Bjorn1: you can use checkinstall to make a nice deb file which you can then install and remove :)
[04:50] <kafeine> pumbaa was weird.
[04:51] <nerp> so I switched to ubuntu then suse pro 9.3 then debian then mandriva beta 0.2 2006 and back to ubuntu
[04:51] <topyli> martin-: yes, it should be clever
[04:51] <brenner> kafeine: must be looking for timon
[04:51] <kafeine> in a truly weird manner..
[04:51] <nerp> Stiivi: what do you mean changing?
[04:51] <kafeine> shinu, generally yes
[04:52] <shinu> kafeine: k, thanks, i can already see it :)
[04:52] <martin-> topyli: It compiled now, how can i let it do the clever stuff now so everything is put in the right dirs?
[04:52] <Stiivi> anyway, there was too slow startup/unsuspend, broken samba (well, i have not tried that one on ubuntu, that would be the next step), very broken latin-2 support in openoffice (strange font replacements in printing/PDF), weird dead-keys handling on slovak keyboard ... etc...
[04:52] <nerp> I see
[04:52] <topyli> martin-: you should find a deb package in your current dir. use "dpkg -i foo.deb" to install and pray
[04:52] <Stiivi> nerp: i have changed, for example, my IP, and other configuration was lost, like wireless settings or DNS
[04:52] <Stiivi> but it was not predictable
[04:52] <martin-> topyli: there is a .deb file, should i just do dpkg -i that file?
[04:53] <topyli> martin-: yes
[04:53] <martin-> sorry, you already told me, thx
[04:53] <Stiivi> how is it with samba and ubuntu?
[04:53] <Stiivi> i have installed 'bum', but I can not see samba service there even I have samba packages installed
[04:53] <nerp> Stiivi: sounds like you allowed DHCP to change your hostname
[04:53] <brenner> Montagh: browser only?  or every net app?
[04:53] <topyli> martin-: and don't forget to pray: wave a dead chicken on your keyboard while installing :)
[04:53] <Mabus> how would I grep for null (U+0) in a file ?
[04:54] <Stiivi> nerp: no, i never used dhcp  ... it was configuration scripts problem
[04:54] <nerp> oh, interesting
[04:54] <umberleigh> hi. i'm having trouble getting my soundcard to work. every time i login KDE tells me it can't find the device and defaults to /dev/null, also KMix defaults back to using my USB camera/mike instead of my nForce2 soundcard
[04:54] <Montagh> yeah most things are doing it
[04:55] <brenner> ubotu: tell umberleigh about sound
[04:55] <brenner> umberleigh: read those while you wait
[04:55] <nerp> ubotu: gives brenner a beer
[04:55] <ubotu> nerp: Are you smoking crack?
[04:55] <nerp> not yet
[04:55] <nerp> hehe
[04:56] <umberleigh> brenner: thanks
[04:56] <topyli> hah
[04:56] <chriszanf> trying to install oss, when I just logged out, it still says that I appear to have a kernel level sound driver installed
[04:56] <nerp> ubotu: give brenner a beer!
[04:56] <ubotu> nerp: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:56] <chriszanf> how do I remove the driver?
[04:56] <nerp> ubotu: no, six
[04:56] <ubotu> nerp: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:56] <topyli> heh
[04:56] <nerp> ubotu: beer somes in packets of six!
[04:56] <ubotu> nerp: I give up, what is it?
[04:57] <martin-> topyli: ;)
[04:57] <nerp> it'd help if I could spell
[04:57] <brenner> Montagh: well, check your usage limit....othwerwise, probably a setup thing you need to sort out
[04:57] <Stiivi> hm, another interesting thing about ubuntu (and perhaps other linux distributions) ... friend of mine started reinstalling windows hour before me
[04:57] <Montagh> ahr ite
[04:58] <nerp> hmm anyone have any idea as to what this might be:
[04:58] <nerp> faen@levity:/etc$ *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice
[04:58] <nerp> *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice
[04:58] <brenner> Stiivi: and let me guess, you beat him? :D
[04:58] <nerp> when using gedit
[04:58] <_SWAT_> Just read about SHA-1 being easily falsified. Is there any way to 'standard' increase your login (and more) to SHA-512 ?
[04:58] <thoreauputic> nerp: it's just a warning - you can usually ignore those
[04:59] <Michael> Hi, I have a problem with mi wifi conection. Installed the drivers with ndiswrapper and all is ok. But I don't sent or recieve nothing
[04:59] <Stiivi> ... when I have finished, mounted my old /home partition and played with my documents in OO.org to see whether it works ... he was finishing network configuration and starting to install other software, such as antivirus :)
[04:59] <chriszanf> does anyone know or am I wasting my time here?
[04:59] <brenner> Stiivi: lol...i knew it...
[04:59] <Stiivi> :)
[04:59] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: or possibly your question needs rephrasing
[04:59] <brenner> Stiivi: did the docs work in OO? :D
[04:59] <Stiivi> sure :)
[05:00] <brenner> lol
[05:00] <Montagh> sudo apt-get install life.deb
[05:00] <brenner> Stiivi: so why haven't you converted him/her yet? :P
[05:00] <Mabus> I'm getting tons of "perl: warning: Setting locale failed." when running apt
[05:01] <Mabus> after using the language chooser thingy
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Mabus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:02] <chriszanf> ok - Im trying to install oss sound drivers. when I run the install it says: "you appear to have the kernel level sound module being loaded automagically by the kerneld daemon" It suggests logging out of X session and trying there. When I do that, it says exactly the same thing. How do I stop the kernel daemon loading the sound module?
[05:02] <Stiivi> brenner: games, games and ... well ... games :-/
[05:02] <brenner> Stiivi: dualboot
[05:02] <Mabus> thoreauputic: Would I have to restart to get things to re-read the locales ?
[05:02] <Mabus> after running reconfigure
[05:02] <Stiivi> brenner: too complicated (for standard user)
[05:03] <thoreauputic> Mabus: don't know - probably logout/login
[05:03] <Mabus> right, thanks alot
[05:03] <hardw1re> anyone here managed to get Gaim-w to compile on the x86_64 system?
[05:03] <brenner> chriszanf: how are you logging out?
[05:04] <Belutz> how to apt-get install when i don't know exactly the package name?
[05:04] <chriszanf> i was using /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:04] <hardw1re> apt-cache search <name>
[05:04] <Stiivi> on the other hand ... allways when I try to convert someone at least to OO if not to a Linux distro, iam confronted with a question: "and why would someone do it for free?"
[05:04] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: I don't understand why you are installing oss - ubuntu uses alsa
[05:04] <brenner> chriszanf: and then ctrl+alt+backspace? iirc
[05:04] <Stiivi> and that is the most difficult question to answer
[05:05] <endgamer> I have a question, and believe me I've been all round the houses and tried every possible resource to get this answered - I've been at it for over 4 hours and I'm going spare - I've just installed a new 5.04 Ubuntu, and I can't figure out how to upgrade glibc - the source won't compile and I can't find a package anywhere. Could someone help before I snap? :-)
[05:05] <chriszanf> i have m-audio delta 66 and it doesnt seem to work
[05:05] <jbailey> endgamer: Upgrading glibc beyond what's there is usually a mistake.
[05:05] <chriszanf> when i went to masudio's site, the linux driver they point to is oss
[05:05] <umberleigh> how do i manually free the sound card / check to see if anything's using it?
[05:05] <jbailey> endgamer: What problem are you trying to solve?
[05:05] <brenner> Stiivi: really?  when i tell people stuffs free, they don't really care about where it came from :)
[05:05] <hardw1re> # Upgrading glibc is highly dangerous, so we recommend in this situation that you
[05:05] <hardw1re> # compile the app you want to install from the sources if possible. Sorry :(
[05:05] <thoreauputic> chriszanf: oss is a kernel 2.4 thing - 2.6.* uses alsa
[05:06] <hardw1re> so where can i get the glibc source?
[05:06] <endgamer> Trying to install software to handle my MP3 player - it needs glibc-2.3.4 at least...
[05:07] <Stiivi> umberleigh: lsof  | grep /dev/mixer
[05:07] <jbailey> Err.
[05:07] <jbailey> If you compile your own glibc, you face a VERY high probably of breaking your system completely, just don't do it.
[05:07] <Stiivi> brenner: hm, people, usualy from business, are very skeptical to free stuff as they know that "there is no such thing as free lunch"
[05:07] <jbailey> If you need the newer glibc, upgrade your whole system to breezy.  You'll be far better off.
[05:07] <endgamer> Crapola. And you can't use a package?
[05:07] <jbailey> All of the bumps and pain of breezy will be far *less* than if you build your own glibc.
[05:08] <endgamer> Breezy? New Ubuntu? I didn't see it on the lists...
[05:08] <Belutz> if i want to compile something, do i have to install libxxx-dev packages?
[05:08] <jbailey> It's not released yet.
[05:08] <thoreauputic> Stiivi: Free as in Freedom <----
[05:08] <mark__> whats the linux-image-2.6.10-5.1686/386 update in the repositorie is it necessary?
[05:08] <endgamer> Ah...
[05:08] <brenner> Stiivi: ah, that's probably it....most people i know aren't of the business age.
[05:08] <Stiivi> thoreauputic: but they think of "free as in free beer" and that is the source of the problem
[05:08] <jbailey> endgamer: It's due out in 6 weeks, though, so it's pretty close.
[05:08] <jbailey> There are still bumps though.
[05:09] <endgamer> Not release as in can't-get-it-at-all or not released as in use-it-at-your-own-risk? <g>
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Stiivi: yes, I know :/ English has a problem with that
[05:09] <Stiivi> thoreauputic: not only english
[05:09] <hardw1re> O_o
[05:09] <Apurva> hi there ....
[05:09] <Apurva> newbie in the house
[05:10] <brenner> Stiivi: he's an aussie....his bias comes out sometimes :)
[05:10] <Stiivi> :)
[05:10] <Apurva> anyone around to lend a lil help here ?
[05:10] <thoreauputic> Stiivi: hence "libre"
[05:10] <Stiivi> i see
[05:10] <ook_> hey... can I install 32bit ubuntu if I  have 64bit AMD processor...? ubuntu as 64 is causing some problems with some software
[05:10] <chriszanf> OK - Im playing an mp3 now and have no sound - I have gone to the volume control - selected my sound card delta 66 [alsa]  and still have no sound
[05:10] <thoreauputic> brenner: hmm - I grew up in Switzerland
[05:10] <hardw1re> ook_ yeah i think you can
[05:10] <eliphas_> chrissturm, check if anything else use the sound already
[05:10] <Apurva> anyone ?
[05:10] <Stiivi> well, in slovak some people use translation of free as "freely distributeable"
[05:10] <mjr> ook_, yes
[05:11] <guzu> now, it looks like after the installation of the last linux-image (or sthing like this) my apt-get keeps ending in segmentation fault. anyone any aidea, please?
[05:11] <Stiivi> but people do not get it
[05:11] <thoreauputic> Stiivi: ignore brenner - he's an Aussie ;)
[05:11] <chriszanf> how do I check if something is?
[05:11] <guzu> aidea/idea
[05:11] <HappyFool> Apurva: ask your question; if someone knows, they'll help
[05:11] <ook_> ok, thanks
[05:11] <umberleigh> lsof | grep /dev/mixer turns up nothing, though lsof | /dev/snd/* says 'File descriptor in bad state' for a few things
[05:11] <brenner> thoreauputic: lol
[05:11] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:11] <brenner> i was waiting for that
[05:11] <endgamer> Jbailey? Is it possible to get a beta download? Or is it totally unavailable?
[05:12] <brenner> endgamer: lots of people are running it now...use at your own risk though afaik
[05:12] <Apurva> i am looking at installing ubuntu on a flash drive ... live cd kinda install .... i am on a windows box now ... do i need to burn the CD first... boot from CD and then install it on the flash drive or is there a direct way to it ?
[05:12] <guzu> nobody :(
[05:12] <topyli> endgamer: you can upgrade but that's at your own risk
[05:12] <hardw1re> anyone know if there is an msn client that can do webcam capabilities?
[05:12] <jbailey> endgamer: Sure, just change your sources to point to breezy instead of hoary.  I still don't recommend doing this.  But it'll be FAR nicer than updating your own glibc.
[05:12] <hardw1re> anyone know if there is an msn client that can do webcam capabilities? x86_64 system
[05:13] <endgamer> Ooookay...well, it's a new installation so I don't mind breaking it, I can always start again from scratch. Thank you SO much guys, you wouldn't believe how much aggravation and pain this has caused me. You are alll the man...
[05:13] <guzu> hardw1re, maybe gnomemeeting
[05:13] <jbailey> Ooo, a collective singular.
[05:13] <hardw1re> but does gnomemeeting work over msn? :P
[05:14] <chriszanf> ha....just inserted a cd and now cd player closes immediately.   how can I checxk if somehting else is using the soundcard?
[05:14] <thoreauputic> jbailey:  /join #grammar-geeks  ;-)
[05:14] <Apurva> i am looking at installing ubuntu on a flash drive ... live cd kinda install .... i am on a windows box now ... do i need to burn the CD first... boot from CD and then install it on the flash drive or is there a direct way to it ?
[05:14] <jbailey> thoreauputic: *lol*
[05:14] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[05:14] <guzu> hardw1re, i've heard it's the only thing it works over with webcam capabilities
[05:15] <selinium> Hi all, i have started to get error message 'Failed to run nautilus: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.' while trying to gksudo nautilus. Any ideas?
[05:15] <brenner> thoreauputic: for some reason i always join the joke channels to see if they actually exist :)
[05:15] <hardw1re> ok, ummm, well, when i have my webcam plugged in it causes certain things to not work properly, such like Counter-Strike Source.
[05:15] <thoreauputic> brenner: of course they exist - you just are in aminority of one in them ;)
[05:15] <hardw1re> my webcam also has a built in microphone
[05:16] <brenner> ah, of course. :)
[05:16] <selinium> hi thoreauputic
[05:17] <brenner> anyway, where has nalioth been lately?
[05:17] <endgamer> Uh-oh...I changed the repositories but glibc still isn't on any of the lists...am I being dumb?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> brenner: of course if you have doubts about their existence you can /join #epistemology
[05:18] <thoreauputic> ;)
[05:18] <surfdue> in xine and totem
[05:18] <surfdue> i cant play .wmv
[05:18] <thoreauputic> selinium: hello :)
[05:18] <surfdue> is there a way 2 do this
[05:18] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: d'oh, I actually thought it existed for a second
[05:18] <thoreauputic> surfdue:  install w32codecs
[05:18] <brenner> thoreauputic: scary...one person in there.
[05:18] <hardw1re> guzu: any idea why my webcam causes the system to not run smoothly?
[05:18] <thoreauputic> hahah
[05:19] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: matters of existence and being are generally more suited to metaphysics though; even if there's an overlap with epistemology quite a bit
[05:19] <selinium> thoreauputic: do you know anything about Xauth? MIne is playing up
[05:19] <brenner> that's him/her
[05:19] <guzu> hardw1re, no, soory
[05:19] <thoreauputic> selinium:  sudo rm ~/.Xauthority  ;)
[05:20] <brenner> apokryphos: /j #smart-alecs
[05:20] <brenner> :D
[05:20] <apokryphos> heh
[05:20] <apokryphos> brenner: you left just before I could silence you ;-)
[05:20] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: or theology  ! /me hides
[05:20] <endgamer> JBailey? Help?
[05:20] <brenner> apokryphos: heh....i thought it was probably some weirdo....so i did a runner. :)
[05:21] <jbailey> endgamer: Did you run apt-get update after?
[05:21] <apokryphos> brenner: and you've changed your mind on that? 8)
[05:21] <endgamer> Well, I refreshed my lists (I'm using synaptic)
[05:21] <jbailey> Hmm, and  you're sure it's all pointing at breezy now?
[05:21] <brenner> >_>
[05:21] <hardw1re> will breezybadger run on the x86_64 kernels?
[05:21] <bmonnens> hey, i have on 1 computer with dual screen vino enabled, now when i connect with my laptop to that computer (using vncviewer) its all screwed up, is there a way you can fix this given some extra command line arguments or something else?
[05:22] <thoreauputic> brenner: more weird than apokryphos would require thoreaup ^H^H^H ... oh, wait
[05:22] <endgamer> running apt-get update now, maybe synaptic didn't...ah, it is doing some new stuff...
[05:22] <brenner> endgamer: need to use 'reload' in synaptic
[05:23] <guzu> where can be reported ubuntu bugs?
[05:23] <selinium> thoreauputic: I keep getting Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. even after removing that xauth
[05:23] <endgamer> I checked all the repositories on my list, all on breezy, none reported error - could I be missing a rep?
[05:23] <brenner> lol
[05:24] <nudnick2> I'm installing linux and i cometo a screen where it prompts either to choose linux-386, linux-image-386, or linux-image-2.6.20-5-386. what should i choose?
[05:24] <brenner> just saw this:
[05:24] <brenner> !bugs
[05:24] <selinium> thoreauputic: I am trying to gksudo, would i need to remove the root .Xauth file?
[05:24] <thoreauputic> selinium: hmmm... I doubt it but I guess it won't hurt to try
[05:24] <HappyFool> nudnick2: linux-386
[05:25] <apokryphos> guzu: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:25] <HappyFool> nudnick2: what distro is that? doesn't look like ubuntu to me
[05:25] <nudnick2> HappyFool: why that one, what are the differences
[05:25] <guzu> brenner, or even better, if apt is no longer working, are there other ways to install .debs?
[05:25] <HappyFool> nudnick2: linux-386 is a 'fake' package, which will install the others. it makes for easier upgrades
[05:25] <nudnick2> HappyFool, its ubuntu. i did expert install mode because ubuntu hates my pcmcia reader
[05:25] <thoreauputic> selinium: or " touch .Xauthority " ; chown username:username .Xauthority
[05:25] <hardw1re> guzu: dpkg -i name.deb
[05:25] <guzu> apokryphos, thnx a lot
[05:26] <brenner> guzu: should be avoided, but you can use dpkg -i
[05:26] <HappyFool> nudnick2: ok. funny kernel version (2.6.20)
[05:26] <endgamer> Could I be missing a repository? Which is the main one I need on there?
[05:26] <guzu> hardw1re, brenner thnx very much :)
[05:26] <nudnick2> HappyFool, now you're telling me to do the other one?
[05:26] <HappyFool> nudnick2: oh, 2.6.10-5-386 -- right
[05:26] <HappyFool> nudnick2: install 'linux-386'
[05:26] <nudnick2> i just did that :D
[05:27] <nudnick2> thanks
[05:27] <thoreauputic> selinium: oops, .Xauthority has 600 perms so the last one won't work methinks
[05:27] <hardw1re> to update to breezy using the apt-get can i do apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:27] <guzu> brenner, looks like it can not be avoided since i don't know other way to do it except the broken apt :)
[05:27] <brenner> guzu: what app is it?
[05:27] <guzu> brenner, who?
[05:27] <guzu> apt?
[05:27] <hardw1re> what .deb package are you installing i think he means
[05:27] <guzu> who/wich
[05:28] <rapha> Hey all
[05:28] <brenner> yes, that's it :)
[05:28] <rapha> Can Hoary be configured so that the "Open Drive Bay" button on the CD-ROM drives still works, like in Windows?
[05:28] <guzu> hardw1re, doesn't matter. it's not only on apt-get, but also on apt-cache
[05:28] <selinium> thoreauputic: Is it worth trying?
[05:28] <endgamer> Jbailey? You still there mate?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> selinium: what is causing the error?
[05:29] <hardw1re> ok, to upgrade my distro to breezy do i need to add the breezy links into the source.lst and then do apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:29] <thoreauputic> selinium: which prog reports it?
[05:29] <brenner> guzu: it does matter, it could be a repo issue and you might still be able to use the easier way of apt instead of dpkg
[05:29] <selinium> thoreauputic: trying to start nautilus through gksudo
[05:29] <GNULinuxer> hardw1re: before that, do apt-get update
[05:29] <azambuja> hi
[05:29] <guzu> brenner, the whole system worked before upgrading linux-image or something ()ah! and gnupg, maybe?
[05:29] <hardw1re> ah yeah
[05:29] <Eryadan> hello everybody
[05:29] <nudnick2> how is ubuntu pronounced? is it you-bunt-too or ew-bunt-too
[05:30] <azambuja> im trying to update my system and i get this error:
[05:30] <GNULinuxer> nudnick: oo-boon-too
[05:30] <azambuja> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:30] <azambuja> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:30] <azambuja> how can i fix this, please?
[05:30] <thoreauputic> selinium: what does ls -l .Xauthority say  ?
[05:30] <guzu> hardw1re, brenner could be caused by upgrading gnupg?
[05:30] <guzu> should irefresh some keys somewhere?
[05:30] <nophix> azambuja: use sudo
[05:30] <brenner> guzu: how'd you upgrade those things?
[05:30] <guzu> apt-get upgrade
[05:31] <thoreauputic> azambuja: are you in the process of installing something ?
[05:31] <Eryadan> hi, i'm looking for a distro change, so here are some question about ubuntu: -> am i able to install /all/ the package available for debian (or where can i find a list) -> is there any problem compiling the nvidia drivers with it on AMD_64
[05:31] <azambuja> nophix: i am using
[05:31] <azambuja> thoreauputic: no
[05:31] <Stiivi> how can I recompile the kernel to fit my machine? I want the same kernel as installed an I would like to do it in a clean (ubuntu) way
[05:31] <guzu> ^brenn
[05:31] <selinium> thoreauputic: Nothing now, we just rm'ed it
[05:31] <brenner> guzu: did you have a repo in there besides main, uni and multi?
[05:31] <guzu> brenner,^
[05:31] <endgamer> Cheers anyway, I'll just do a dist-upgrade and see if that does it. See you guys.
[05:31] <hardw1re> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[05:31] <guzu> brenner, universe
[05:31] <hardw1re> ^^ is that what i need to add?
[05:31] <brenner> ....when you did the upgrade
[05:31] <nophix> azambuja: well, are you using 2 apt-get at the same time?
[05:32] <endgamer> q
[05:32] <thoreauputic> selinium: logout/login to regenerate it then
[05:32] <azambuja> nophix: no
[05:32] <nophix> azambuja: nevermind
[05:32] <selinium> thoreauputic: Doh. Me being stupid again!
[05:32] <guzu> brenner, so no :)
[05:32] <azambuja> nophix: i dont know whats happening... :-(
[05:32] <brenner> guzu: well, it sounds like it may have stuffed it up somehow....i'd work on getting that fixed rather than using work arounds for installing stuff.
[05:33] <thoreauputic> selinium: heheh - it isn't magic you know ;)
[05:33] <nophix> azambuja: check with "ps aux|grep apt"
[05:33] <guzu> brenner, so wich way should i go now?
[05:34] <zxc2005> anyone know how to configure grub so I can select the relevant partitions on boot?
[05:34] <brenner> guzu: i'd start with posting the full error you get when you use apt-get to a pastebin
[05:34] <azambuja> nophix: nothing, via terminal it works. via synaptic not
[05:34] <azambuja> im gonna restart
[05:34] <azambuja> thanx
[05:34] <guzu> brenner, segmentation fault
[05:35] <guzu> brenner, that's all
[05:35] <hardw1re> ok bbl
[05:35] <Eryadan> does someone knows if i'm able to install all the package available for debian with ubuntu, and, if it isnt the case, could someone point me to available packages?
[05:35] <hardw1re> cause i just issued the update command :P
[05:35] <hardw1re> so im gonna close all apps :P
[05:35] <brenner> guzu: and what apt-get command are you using?
[05:35] <guzu> brenner, apt-get install smbfs
[05:35] <brenner> Eryadan: mixing debian with ubuntu is a no-no afaik
[05:36] <brenner> guzu: and it gives a segfault?  weird
[05:36] <apokryphos> Eryadan: available packages can be browsed and searched on packages.ubuntu.com
[05:36] <booger> hi, i've got a question about dvd buring
[05:37] <Eryadan> brenner: ok, thank you
[05:37] <booger> can any one help me?
[05:37] <AlexBO> hello!in the 5.04 version of Ubuntu there is firefox 1.02, but when i try to download an extension, it says me that my version is minor than 1.0. how can i download extensions then?
[05:37] <guzu> booger, ask
[05:37] <brenner> booger: ask.  if anyone knows, they'll reply
[05:37] <Eryadan> apokryphos: thanks a lot that was exactly what i was looking for
[05:38] <thoreauputic> woah... apt segfaulting is not a good sign...
[05:38] <guzu> yeah :)
[05:38] <surfdue> hi
[05:38] <surfdue> can
[05:38] <guzu> brenner, now i'm in apt-get -f install
[05:38] <surfdue> um can ubuntu do rpms?
[05:38] <surfdue> i have a program that is in a rpm
[05:38] <guzu> brenner, seems good so far
[05:38] <surfdue> can i use it?
[05:38] <brenner> Alex: that's a bit of a bug...type about:config in the url bar
[05:38] <AlexBO> surfdue, use alien
[05:39] <brenner> surfdue: what program?
[05:39] <nophix> booger: just ask!
[05:39] <nophix> :)
[05:39] <thoreauputic> guzu: wild stab in the dark:  sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[05:39] <surfdue> zipz
[05:39] <surfdue> sip phone
[05:39] <surfdue> what sip phone do u suggest?
[05:39] <rapha> Why doesn't AutoMount work properly in Hoary?
[05:39] <nudnick2> in expert install mode what does "configure apt" mean?
[05:39] <booger> ok i'm making iso file out of a video_ts folder everyway that I tried it my dvd player on my stero won't play it. how do I make dvd playable
[05:39] <surfdue> i want one that works with dtmf.
[05:39] <AlexBO> brenner, what i have to search?
[05:39] <surfdue> x-lite dosnt work with dtmf
[05:39] <guzu> btw, how can i select wich services to start or not on boot time?
[05:39] <booger> I've tried this mkisofs -o file.iso /location_of_folder/
[05:40] <thoreauputic> nudnick: configuring apt is usually running apt-setup
[05:40] <brenner> surfdue: linphone maybe?  (just apt-cache searching here)
[05:40] <guzu> thoreauputic, seems to be fixed already with apt-get -f install :) thnx a lot
[05:40] <brenner> Alex: vendorsub
[05:40] <guzu> brenner, ^
[05:40] <nophix> booger: don't you want to use k3b or something else instead?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> guzu: *whew*
[05:40] <thoreauputic> guzu: pour yourself a drink ;)
[05:40] <booger> I don't know I'm still a noob
[05:40] <guzu> lol
[05:41] <booger> will that app work?
[05:41] <zxc2005> I'm trying to put a "Hidden W95 FAT32" on my grub menu...it's on "/dev/sda1"...how would I structure the writing in menu.lst
[05:41] <AlexBO> brenner, general.useragent.vendorSub ?
[05:41] <antrix> hi, need help configuring network on a G3 imac...
[05:41] <guzu> now what about who's starting on boot time? how can i configure this?
[05:41] <brenner> AlexBO: yes, i think so.
[05:41] <jesper> Any font experts around? I've broken the system so "all" fonts looks grained..
[05:41] <brenner> AlexBO: change it to the firefox version you have
[05:41] <nophix> booger: k3b will work
[05:41] <AlexBO> brenner, i've setted 1.02 .
[05:42] <thoreauputic> zxc2005: that won't work - it's probably a container for other partitions
[05:42] <brenner> AlexBO: ok, try that now
[05:42] <eazel7> hi ppl
[05:42] <brenner> AlexBO: what was the original setting OOI?
[05:42] <catfox> hi all. does anyone know of a good and up to date python/gtk tutorial?
[05:42] <eazel7> is it possible to por anaconda to ubuntu?
[05:42] <booger> can I get gnomebaker to do the same thing?
[05:42] <AlexBO> brenner, no...i have written bad: i have got 1.06 version, and there was 1.02, so i changed it to 1.06
[05:42] <eazel7> progeny has done some work on porting to debian
[05:43] <zxc2005> thoreauputic, basically it's a partition placed there for a windows recovery type thing...by the manufacturer, it used to be booted by pressing f8 but grub obviously removed this. I was hoping I could put it in my boot menu?
[05:43] <nudnick2> oh my god..... i finally get linux installed on my computer and it stalls booting up. it stalls at "Starting Hotplug subsystem" anyone know why it might do that?
[05:43] <brenner> AlexBO: oh, ok....let us know if it works
[05:43] <AlexBO> brenner, it seems work.thanks
[05:43] <brenner> :)
[05:43] <Snopy_> Hey! How do i get the mp3 support to work with ubuntu?
[05:43] <jldugger> nudnick2: it does take a while...
[05:43] <thoreauputic> zxc2005: ah, OK I see - but I don't know if it's possible
[05:43] <antrix> lspci doesn't list any network cards..
[05:43] <nophix> !mp3
[05:43] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[05:44] <antrix> !mp3
[05:44] <zxc2005> thoreauputic, so there's no way I can say to grub boot /dev/sda1?
[05:44] <nudnick2> jldugger. does it take this long everytime i boot up? or just the first run
[05:44] <guzu> zxc2005, probably an fat16 partiotion dos like so maybe you can find help on info grub
[05:44] <eazel7> Snopy_, for kde akode-mpeglib, for gnome gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:44] <thoreauputic> zxc2005: as I said , I don't know
[05:44] <AlexBO> brenner, oh-oh... Forecast 0.8.1.3 could not be installed because it's not compatible with the version of Firefox (only works with 1.0+)
[05:44] <eazel7> Snopy_, install those through sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[05:45] <antrix> ubotu, are there irc logs somewhere then
[05:45] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, antrix
[05:45] <brenner> AlexBO: damn....well, check the forum for 'firefox extension' topics.
[05:45] <brenner> lol
[05:45] <jldugger> nudnick, every time =( afaik. but it shouldnt be like more than 15 seconds.
[05:45] <brenner> antrix: /topic
[05:45] <thoreauputic> antrix:  see /topic
[05:45] <thoreauputic> brenner: ha - a rare win for brenner ;)
[05:45] <brenner> 1st time i've seen that ubotu rejection :)
[05:45] <AlexBO> brenner,  okey...thanks however
[05:45] <antrix> brenner, thanx :)
[05:46] <nudnick2> jldugger, well its been like 4 minutes
[05:46] <brenner> thoreauputic: 3 less letters :)
[05:46] <thoreauputic> brenner: *grin*
[05:47] <zxc2005> guzu, how do I get to "info grub" :/
[05:47] <jldugger> nudnick, try control-c
[05:47] <brenner> thoreauputic: rare win?  i always beat you. :D
[05:47] <nudnick2> nothing...
[05:47] <kuene> hi, i have just installed ubuntu on a acer travel mate 2300. it has a screen resolution of 2800x800. this is correctly written in my xorg.conf. but gnome starts with resolution of 1024x768. and i can not change it in the system preferences. why ist this like that?
[05:47] <brenner> zxc2005: type it in a terminal
[05:47] <brenner> !tell kuene about fixres
[05:47] <brenner> thoreauputic: see.... :)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> brenner: conceptually, I'm way ahead ;)
[05:48] <kuene> brenner, fixres?
[05:48] <guzu> zxc2005, open terminal, type info grub, press enter :)
[05:48] <thoreauputic> brenner: hah - impostor!
[05:48] <jldugger> nudnick, it may be, theres a bug in the hotplug system. i know they wanted to rewrite it to go faster, so they might have missed a corner condition that toasts you
[05:48] <brenner> kuene: check your private messages
[05:48] <eazel7> kuene, perhaps it's not written as first resolution at the xorg.conf
[05:48] <nudnick2> so what do you reccomend
[05:48] <brenner> thoreauputic: hehe...thought it was time for a nick change...people kept thinking i was female
[05:49] <guzu> anybody knows if conf.modules is still available (valid, i mean) in ubu 5.04?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> brenner: yeah, i know the feeling: people keep thinking I'm male
[05:49] <brenner> not that there's anything wrong with that
[05:50] <brenner> thoreauputic: so you aren't the lead singer of midnight oil? :D lol
[05:50] <brenner> *former lead
[05:50] <thoreauputic> brenner: no, I have hair ;)
[05:50] <surfdue> is there a really easy app, i can use to merge 5 mp3s into one file
[05:50] <thoreauputic> surfdue: sure - cat
[05:50] <guzu> surfdue, mp3wrap on sf.net
[05:50] <brenner> thoreauputic: *i* thought you were male
[05:51] <surfdue> cat ?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> cat file1.mp3 file2.mp3 > filebig.mp3
[05:51] <surfdue> nice
[05:51] <surfdue> :)
[05:51] <guzu> surfdue, and cat is even easier :)
[05:51] <surfdue> thanks
[05:51] <nudnick2> any reason my computer might stall loading the hotplug subsystem?
[05:51] <guzu> man cat
[05:51] <brenner> damn....didn't know cat could do that. :)
[05:51] <HappyFool> cat'ing 3 mp3 files produces a working mp3 file?
[05:51] <Bjorn2> how to install a lexmark :o?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> brenner: actually I am - but promise not to give my secret away
[05:51] <selinium> thoreauputic: Sorry, talking to my daughter.
[05:52] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: sure
[05:52] <selinium> thoreauputic: -rw-------  1 james james 120 2005-08-20 16:38 /home/james/.Xauthority
[05:52] <surfdue> can cat merge any file
[05:52] <surfdue> liek video
[05:52] <thoreauputic> selinium: looks right
[05:52] <surfdue> wav?
[05:52] <Robbie___> hello
[05:52] <brenner> thoreauputic: i'm confused now. :)
[05:52] <Robbie___> can someone
[05:52] <Robbie___> help me with rewriting my bootloader
[05:52] <Robbie___> bu
[05:52] <Robbie___> with lilo
[05:52] <Robbie___> cuz
[05:52] <HappyFool> wav files have headers; i'm pretty sure you can't just 'cat' 3 wav files together
[05:52] <thoreauputic> brenner: told you I was wway ahead , didn't I ? *g*
[05:53] <Robbie___> im using mandriva
[05:53] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: try it
[05:53] <HappyFool> i'm trying it with mp3 files right now
[05:53] <selinium> thoreauputic: Will doeing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg sort it?
[05:53] <Bjorn2> whats the latest stable kernel ?
[05:53] <Bjorn2> i want to update my kernell
[05:53] <guzu> surfdue, note however that not all players will play such an audio/video file
[05:53] <nudnick2> so is there any reason my computer might stall loading the hotplug subsystem? it took me 3 hours to figure out what drivers were messing up the install process and now that i have it installed it won't boot :(
[05:53] <thoreauputic> selinium: I don't think so,no
[05:53] <Bjorn2> but i can't find it 123
[05:53] <Bjorn2> :o
[05:53] <surfdue> :P
[05:54] <kemik> byt cat'ing mp3files there will be errors introduced
[05:54] <antrix> !logoff
[05:54] <ubotu> I don't know, antrix
[05:54] <EasterSunshine> you can't cat mp3's together?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> kemik: hmm -seems to work for me
[05:54] <EasterSunshine> thoreauputic: wow! that's wicked!
[05:54] <guzu> more exactly sunc errors
[05:54] <vitriol> nudnick2: sounds like you need to blacklist a driver or something
[05:55] <nudnick2> vitriol
[05:55] <nudnick2> how?
[05:55] <kemik> thoreauputic:  sure it may *work*, but if the id3-tag and headers are catted they'll be interpreted as sound and probalby it wont sound correct
[05:55] <QMario> !Java
[05:55] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:55] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: I suggest you test it first ;)
[05:55] <vitriol> nudnick2: there is a file in /etc/hotplug
[05:55] <kuene> brenner, still does not work, my xorg.conf is set up correctly. but gnome does only 1024x768...
[05:55] <antrix> I can't figure out what network card is on this imac box.... lspci doesn't list anything.. any idea how i configure it?
[05:55] <vitriol> nudnick2: i *think* it is /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:55] <guzu> sync
[05:55] <guzu> thoreauputic, there are players able to get over these sync errors, others can not
[05:55] <EasterSunshine> for file in ls; do cat ls; done > everything.mp3
[05:56] <thoreauputic> kemik: *shrug* You're probably right - I know little about it
[05:56] <vitriol> nudnick2: what you need to do is figure out what module is messing up your system
[05:56] <vitriol> nudnick2: then add it to the blacklist file
[05:56] <nudnick2> vitriol, where do i enter that?
[05:56] <keyes> hello, i'm looking for a solution to active MP3 encoding profile for all the system, not for only one user
[05:56] <vitriol> nudnick2: to get to the blacklist file you need to boot up using the recovery mode kernel
[05:56] <keyes> any idea ?
[05:56] <EasterSunshine> do cat "$file" *
[05:56] <QMario> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[05:56] <QMario> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support
[05:56] <vitriol> nudnick2: do you know how to do that?
[05:57] <brenner> kuene: it's usually one of two problems: [1]  res isn't listed [2]  monitor rates aren't correct.
[05:57] <Bjorn2> Is there a howto installing Audigy 2 ZS cards ?
[05:57] <Bjorn2> Is there a howto installing Audigy 2 ZS cards ?
[05:57] <Bjorn2> :o
[05:57] <nudnick2> vitriol, i think it stalls during recovery mode too
[05:57] <Stiivi> see you later
[05:57] <brenner> kuene: post your xorg.conf to a pastebin please
[05:57] <vitriol> nudnick2: you tried that?
[05:57] <QMario> Thoreauputic, that was my problem.
[05:57] <vitriol> nudnick2: in that case ....there is another way but it's more advanced
[05:57] <QMario> Do you know the solution to it?
[05:57] <brenner> Stiivi: later
[05:57] <vitriol> nudnick2: you can use the ubuntu livecd to boot from
[05:57] <vitriol> nudnick2: and mount your filesystem from the livecd
[05:58] <thoreauputic> QMario: not at this hour - I'm probably half asleep
[05:58] <guzu> how can i find out wich version of alsa is installed?
[05:58] <vitriol> nudnick2: then, you can edit /etc/hotplug/blacklist and add the module that is causing you grief
[05:58] <Snopy_> eazel7, Do I need to reboot after the install to get the programs to handle mp3?
[05:58] <kemik> cat thoreauputic > /dev/null
[05:58] <nudnick2> well i boot up during recovery but there is nowhere to enter what you said before it gets to the hotplug part?
[05:58] <kemik> :>
[05:58] <Bjorn2> Is there a howto installing Audigy 2 ZS cards ?
[05:58] <brenner> Snopy_: no
[05:59] <vitriol> nudnick2: so it won't fully boot in recovery mode? or it will?
[05:59] <jeff_hann> Bjorn2:have ya tried google?
[05:59] <Bjorn2> not yet, ;)
[05:59] <QMario> Bob2, are you awake?
[05:59] <nophix> guzu: dpkg -l|grep alsa
[05:59] <nudnick2> nope
[05:59] <Bjorn2> its easier to ask
[05:59] <eazel7> Snopy_, IIIRC no, but perhaps running gst-register would be needed
[05:59] <Bjorn2> :>
[05:59] <nudnick2> it wont
[06:00] <QMario> !Firefox
[06:00] <ubotu> QMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:00] <selinium> thoreauputic: can you think of anything else i can try? on Xauth
[06:00] <QMario> !browser
[06:00] <ubotu> QMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:00] <brenner> Bjorn2: afaik, no
[06:00] <thoreauputic> kemik:  cat kemik > /dev/meatgrinder
[06:00] <jeff_hann> so RTFM and if you DON'T find satisfactory results,come back
[06:00] <QMario> !Internet
[06:00] <ubotu> QMario: Wish i knew
[06:00] <QMario> !Botsnack
[06:00] <ubotu> :)
[06:00] <thoreauputic> kemik: ;-)
[06:00] <vitriol> nudnick2: then your best bet is mounting the partition from a ubuntu livecd and editing it from there (this can be fairly complicated if you've never done it before)
[06:00] <kemik> thoreauputic:  damn you got some wicked machines connected to your comp ;)
[06:00] <nudnick2> wanna walk me through :)
[06:00] <vitriol> nudnick2: sure i'll be here
[06:00] <thoreauputic> kemik: built it myself ;)
[06:00] <brenner> Bjorn2: if you're having sound probs and you've searched the wiki and forum with no luck, get a hold of crimsun when he's active in here...he's #ubuntu's sound guru.
[06:00] <guzu> nophix, thnx!
[06:01] <umberleigh> how do i set the sound card that the system uses? it seems to be setup to use my webcam-with-mike, but i need to set it to use my actual soundcard. the card is setup as far as i can see, as alsamixer -c 1 uses the card
[06:01] <vitriol> nudnick2: first thing, though, do you know what module causes it to freeze?
[06:01] <Snopy_> eazel7, Thanx dude. Now i just miss the divx support
[06:01] <nudnick2> i'm about to leave will you be on later tonite?
[06:01] <umberleigh> so, where's the config file where i set which card to use?
[06:01] <nudnick2> unless it dosen't take that long
[06:01] <guzu> Bjorn2, alsa 1.0.8 should have drivers for it although maybe some things are missing like recording, check it anyway :)
[06:01] <thoreauputic> ------> sleep
[06:01] <eazel7> Snopy_, it's there going around, look for gstreamer0.8-plugins and install it all
[06:01] <thoreauputic> good night all
[06:01] <vitriol> nudnick2: can't guarantee that, but somebody else here will help you, surely :)
[06:01] <HappyFool> chrs thoreauputic
[06:01] <QMario> Good Night.
[06:01] <Bjorn2> oke guzu
[06:01] <vitriol> nudnick2: it takes about 15 minutes probably
[06:01] <brenner> Snopy_:for divx, install w32codecs
[06:01] <nudnick2> how long will it take if we did it now
[06:01] <nudnick2> oh
[06:01] <nudnick2> we got time then
[06:01] <nudnick2> nm
[06:01] <guzu> thoreauputic, 'dnight and thank you :)
[06:01] <nudnick2> let me go grab my live cd
[06:01] <vitriol> nudnick2: you have a livecd?
[06:02] <vitriol> ok
[06:02] <vitriol> nudnick2: what module causes it to freeze?
[06:02] <nudnick2> hotplug subsystems
[06:02] <vitriol> hmm
[06:02] <guzu> Bjorn2, if you make it record by mic, let me know, btw :)
[06:02] <vitriol> that's all it says?
[06:03] <brenner> umberleigh: 'apps > sound > vol. control > file > change device' maybe?
[06:03] <_martin> Is there a save method for upgrading to colony 3 without using the iso?
[06:03] <kuene> brettcar, my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1440
[06:03] <Bjorn2> guzu, i will
[06:03] <nudnick2> vitriol, one second i'm getting on windows to see how much battery power is left on the system i'm installing ubuntu on
[06:03] <Bjorn2> but i just started today
[06:03] <kuene> sorry i mean: brenner , my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1440
[06:03] <Bjorn2> >_>
[06:03] <vitriol> !hotplug
[06:03] <ubotu> vitriol: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:03] <keyes> anyone know how to activate sound-juicer mp3 encoding for all users (system-wide)
[06:03] <selinium> Snopy_ http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  for w32codecs
[06:04] <vitriol> nudnick2: the problem with completely disabling hotplug is that your mouse, keyboard and a number of other devices may not work without it
[06:05] <nudnick2> ..
[06:05] <matsur> HillTop, after installing a 32 bit chroot on my amd64 ubuntu all the interface fonts are really fuzzy. any ideas?
[06:05] <nudnick2> so is it possible that i can't use ubuntu on this system?
[06:05] <vitriol> if it's something within hotplug, such as snd_intel8x0m or wdt_pci causing the freeze
[06:05] <vitriol> then you can comment those out
[06:05] <vitriol> nudnick2: yes it's possible
[06:05] <epod69> hey, anyone know a beginners guide link to setting up sound in ubuntu?
[06:05] <brenner> kuene: what res did you want?
[06:06] <selinium> anybody around who nows about Xauthority files? I keep getting  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file   erors
[06:06] <brenner> kuene: nvm, stupid question
[06:06] <brenner> kuene: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[06:06] <selinium> errors*
[06:06] <vitriol> nudnick2: if it froze on hotplug and didn't say anything, chances are it was just one module causing the problem
[06:06] <umberleigh> brenner: i'm using KDE, hence KMix. i can set the mixer to 'NVidia nForce2', but i still don't get any sound and it resets back to the camera when i reboot anyway
[06:06] <kuene> brenner, i want 1200x800
[06:07] <brenner> kuene: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[06:07] <guzu> anybody knows wich module should be loaded for an gravis ultrasound isa card? or maybe sound blaster16?
[06:08] <brenner> umberleigh: yeah, sorry, i'm not really a sound guru......you might want to get a hold of crimsun when he's active in here.  i don't know really
[06:08] <jc-denton> i cannot find description anywhere about Breezy Badger
[06:08] <matsur> any ideas on the fuzzy fonts after a chroot install?
[06:08] <brenner> umberleigh: have you checked the forums for any threads?
[06:09] <brenner> !breezy
[06:09] <ubotu> [breezy]  the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:09] <jc-denton> brenner: thank you
[06:09] <umberleigh> i've read the stuff ubotu gave me, but i'll do a search now for other stuff :-$
[06:10] <guzu> !'isa sound card'
[06:10] <ubotu> guzu: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:10] <jc-denton> humm
[06:10] <guzu> !isa sound card
[06:10] <ubotu> guzu: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:10] <jc-denton> i need technical details
[06:11] <jc-denton> on the ubuntu site i couldn't find anything
[06:11] <guzu> ubotu, no :(
[06:11] <ubotu> guzu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:11] <jc-denton> what about selinux, x.org, gnome?
[06:11] <paganini> Howdy
[06:12] <antrix> how do i reinvoke the 'network configure' step from installation... after install
[06:12] <paganini> I really like Ubuntu.
[06:12] <robertj> heya all. There is a non-free licence that allows comments in code of a piece of software that the code interoperates with to invalidate portions of that licence
[06:12] <paganini> And this friend of mine knows this, and wants to try it, but he's having a little trouble installing.
[06:12] <paganini> So, I'm trying to give him a hand, but he's having a strange problem.
[06:12] <robertj> theoretically, can you take the code that is being interoperated with and add disclaimers to slice out portions of the licence of question?
[06:12] <matsur> http://www.columbia.edu/rxl2101/Screenshot.png that's what it looks like. See the fuzziness I'm talking about?
[06:13] <skora> and what is it paganini
[06:13] <brenner> jc-denton: heh, it is a little lacking...
[06:13] <paganini> He's trying to install on a Compaq SR1010NX notebook. It boots off the CD OK, but when it starts loading the kernel, he gets two lines (initrd I think) and it resets.
[06:13] <jc-denton> brenner: lacking?
[06:14] <matsur> Sorry, http://www.columbia.edu/~rxl2101/Screenshot.png
[06:14] <paganini> I found a couple of links that seem related, but they're for Fedora
[06:14] <paganini> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/18/2005/02/1/229524
[06:14] <paganini> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=121819
[06:14] <guzu> jc-denton, file not found
[06:14] <paganini> So, I was wondering if anyone has ever encountered this with ubuntu before, and what I should do about it.
[06:15] <martin-> topyli: all works great now, thx!
[06:15] <jc-denton> file not found?
[06:16] <Zotnix> While I know dangerous and not very supported, how do I force install a package via dpkg and make apt-get shut up about it completely?
[06:17] <chriszanf> got a couple of issues: no sound &  getting 500 server error with apache2
[06:18] <guzu> anyody knows if alsaconf is available in ubuntu?
[06:18] <kurumin> como ver o hda pelo ubuntu live cd
[06:18] <paganini> alsaconf is abailable in ubuntu.
[06:18] <paganini> *available
[06:18] <paganini> It doesn't work too well with my AC97 onboard though. :)
[06:18] <guzu> paganini, great! where?
[06:18] <nophix> guzu: alsa-utils
[06:19] <guzu> nophix, i suppose so, but it's not in path :( and i have no idea how to query a package for a file :(
[06:19] <brenner> kuene: still there?
[06:20] <paganini> guzu, can you use Synaptic Package manager?
[06:20] <guzu> paganini, yes
[06:20] <guzu> why?
[06:20] <brenner> guzu: packages.ubuntu.com works well for me
[06:21] <guzu> brenner, thnx, -i'll check it out
[06:21] <Node> hey
[06:21] <paganini> Open it up, select "sections" in the lower left, and select "all" in the upper left. Then just type "alsa-utils" and it'll jump right to it.
[06:21] <paganini> Assuming you have the right repositories installed.
[06:21] <Node> does anybody here have the ULI SATA drivers so I can setup ubuntu on on my A64 ?
[06:21] <Node> (or no of a way to get it working)
[06:22] <kurumin> como ver o hda pelo ubuntu live cd
[06:22] <topyli> martin-: great!
[06:22] <kuene> brenner, does not work still. i think i will switch back do debian and xfree86
[06:22] <brenner> kuene: did you run the command i gave you?
[06:23] <guzu> paganini, alsa-utils is installed, alsaconf can't be located
[06:23] <guzu> brenner, You have searched for alsaconf in hoary, architecture i386.
[06:23] <guzu> Can't find that file, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture.
[06:23] <kuene> yes
[06:23] <brenner> kuene: what was the output?
[06:24] <brenner> guzu: dpkg -L alsa-utils | grep alsaconf ?
[06:24] <Adolf> hi just a question here, are there boot diskettes to boot from diskette and load a cdrom driver to install from there?
[06:24] <kuene> brenner, but i think you mean mode not monitorrange?
[06:24] <umberleigh> paganini: i can't find alsaconf in alsautils, i'm using hoary with the default repositories, plus universe and restricted
[06:24] <skora> node - did you try the AMD site ?
[06:24] <brenner> kuene: no, use the exact command
[06:24] <ninjafish> hi, if flash-nonfree not in multiverse any more because I cannot find the package
[06:24] <oonoon> where can i find info about the runlevels of ubuntu ?
[06:24] <kuene> there is no output then...
[06:24] <guzu> brenner, :( nothing
[06:25] <brenner> kuene: ok, we can't autodetect...what's your monitor model?
[06:25] <skora> Node, youcan be a bit more descriptive about your problems, that would help :] 
[06:25] <Adolf> what about boot diskettes
[06:25] <guzu> brenner, paganini still apt-cache search says alsaconf is in alsa-utils
[06:25] <Node> No linux distro i have tried today has been able to detect my hdd.
[06:25] <kuene> 15.4" WXGA TFT LCD mit 1280 x 800 Pixel resolution with Intel? Extreme Graphics 2 Technologie
[06:25] <Node> which is an SATA drive, with a ULi M1573 controller
[06:26] <chriszanf> how do I change apache2 "fully qualified domain name" or what IP address it listens on?
[06:26] <guzu> brenner, are you on breezy?
[06:26] <QMario> Node, where can I get JCreator?
[06:26] <brenner> guzu: no, hoary
[06:26] <Adolf> Node is your hdd correct set up
[06:26] <brenner> kuene: ah, so, laptop?
[06:26] <Node> adolf - yes, it works fine in windows
[06:26] <kuene> brenner, acrer travel mate.
[06:26] <guzu> brenner, somebody above says it's on breezy but i dont remeber who, i was curious if there is alsaconf
[06:27] <othernoob> hi, does anyone know of a program to convert .ape to .mp3?
[06:27] <Node> but i had to load extra drivers during the windows setup from a floppy
[06:27] <chriszanf> how do I change apache2 "fully qualified domain name" or what IP address it listens on?
[06:27] <paganini> Hmm.
[06:27] <paganini> I'm running Hoary.
[06:27] <oonoon> how to boot on console (no X), which runlevel ?
[06:27] <Node> QMario - not an illegal version, no.
[06:27] <paganini> And I remember using alsa-conf.
[06:27] <paganini> But, now I don't seem to have it installed.
[06:27] <Adolf> Node i dont have probs with sata under Suse
[06:27] <ninjafish> Can someone who uses mulitverse do me a favour and see if their synaptic can find flash-nonfree as it is mentioned in the wiki but I cannot find it
[06:27] <Node> i just tried installing 9.3 (i386 version though) and it couldnt detect the,m
[06:27] <paganini> Looks like the new software conflicts with the old alsa-conf
[06:28] <Adolf> even knoppix 3.9 has no probs with sata on my systems
[06:28] <adwait> hello all
[06:28] <Node> ive read a few people having problems with linux and this controller (and this computer SHuttle ST20G5)
[06:28] <brenner> guzu: yeah, it might not be in the hoary repos
[06:28] <brenner> i.e. need to install alsa manually or something
[06:28] <Adolf> i hope you find out what is wrong
[06:29] <kuene> brenner, i do not know what else to do... intel makes very good drivers for the grafic chip so...
[06:29] <EasterSunshine> two problems: first off, man is formatting the documents with more, instead of how it used to be before where i can use up and down arrows, and secondly, how do i save a buffer in vi?
[06:29] <chriszanf> how do I change apache2 "fully qualified domain name" or what IP address it listens on?
[06:29] <Node> me too, or I doubt i'll ever be using linux :)
[06:29] <andy_> ninjafish, is multiverse activated?
[06:29] <brenner> ninjafish: flashplugin-nonfree
[06:29] <guzu> brenner, k thnx a lot, i'll see what i have to do
[06:29] <brenner> kuene: try changing your rates
[06:29] <brenner> to these generic ones:
[06:29] <brenner> HorizSync          30-96
[06:29] <brenner>      VertRefresh        50-160
[06:30] <darkheart> EasterSunshine When you say 'buffer', you just mean save the file you are working on?
[06:30] <brenner> kuene: i assume you know how to back up your xorg.conf file so you can copy the old one over later if needed
[06:30] <Adolf> i like to install ubuntu on an ancient system, damnsmalllinux runs fine on it but i need boot diskettes, anyone???
[06:30] <andy_> brenner,  isn't it 30-95
[06:30] <EasterSunshine> chriszanf: use the directive Listen to change the listening ports eg "Listen 80"
[06:30] <kuene> bratsche, ;)
[06:30] <brenner> andy_: got it off here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:30] <EasterSunshine> darkheart: yes, i have had vi dump the buffer before...
[06:30] <QMario> !JCreator
[06:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, QMario
[06:30] <QMario> !Java
[06:30] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:30] <andy_> there's a sticker on my monitor with 30-95 and 50-160
[06:31] <ciberamaru> I dont't speak English
[06:31] <brenner> kuene: basically, i think your rates are wrong.
[06:31] <darkheart> EasterSunshine If you want to save what you are working on, in command mode ':w' will save it. Or ':w <filename>' if you want to call it something else.
[06:31] <Node> QMario: bit torrent
[06:31] <QMario> !Botsnack
[06:31] <ubotu> :)
[06:31] <brenner> kuene: having your debian xfree file might be handy actually
[06:31] <ciberamaru> do someone speak Spanish?
[06:31] <QMario> Node, isn't it "free" though?
[06:31] <brenner> !es
[06:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:31] <andy_> da gaat
[06:31] <ciberamaru> Thank you!
[06:32] <adwait> ciberamaru: #ubuntu-es
[06:32] <Node> dunno, presumed it was an ide you have to pay for, if its free, check www.jcreator.com
[06:32] <EasterSunshine> chriszanf: oh sry ip adress...you need to use the VirtualHost directive eg <VirtualHost www.wee.org> ... </VirtualHost>
[06:32] <EasterSunshine> darkheart: thx
[06:32] <ninjafish> I am using http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ with multiverse restricted main and universe I searched for flah and all I get is libflash
[06:32] <ninjafish> s/flah/flash
[06:32] <Adolf> bye cu and keep up the good work
[06:32] <chriszanf> EasterSunshine: in the .conf?
[06:32] <brenner> ninjafish: flashplugin-nonfree
[06:32] <darkheart> EasterSunshine Btw, you can also save w/ 'shift+z+z' in command mode =) That will save and quit.
[06:33] <EasterSunshine> chriszanf: yes
[06:33] <brenner> ninjafish: it's in multiverse
[06:33] <adwait> can someone tell me, how stable is the current release of breezey?
[06:33] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell me about pastebin
[06:34] <adwait> !pastebin
[06:34] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:34] <brenner> adwait: well, the warning's gone from the topic, but i personally still wouldn't use it
[06:34] <brenner> i leave the risk to you
[06:34] <andy_> !mplayer
[06:34] <ubotu> andy_: What?
[06:34] <andy_> !mplayer-plugin
[06:34] <ubotu> I don't know, andy_
[06:34] <adwait> brenner: hmm.....i don't wanna wait till october......
[06:34] <andy_> !w32codecs
[06:35] <andy_> !wmv
[06:35] <ubotu> andy_: I give up, what is it?
[06:35] <adwait> !info mplayer-hoary
[06:35] <EasterSunshine> chriszanf: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1441 <--there is my apache2.conf, in the <VirtualHost ...> you can use hostnames instead of ip addresses like i did
[06:35] <andy_> !play wmv files in firefox
[06:35] <ubotu> andy_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:35] <andy_> long time ago yes
[06:36] <adwait> lol
[06:36] <andy_> !play .wmv
[06:36] <ubotu> andy_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:36] <brenner> andy_: you're bordering on flooding....use /msg
[06:36] <adwait> andy_: did u try the media connector plugin for firefox?
[06:37] <andy_> guess not, let's check out, thx
[06:37] <paganini> OK, so, it turns out that my friend's computer is *not* a notebook, but a desktop.
[06:37] <jamie_k> anyone help me configure my sound. which has recently given up the ghost?
[06:37] <paganini> (This is what happens when you try to do tech-support of IRC)
[06:38] <adwait> hehe
[06:38] <adwait> jamie_k: what did u do b4 it stopped working?
[06:38] <paganini> of = over
[06:39] <jamie_k> adwait, i was trying to fix the problem with esd not playing sounds accross multiple apps, and installed polypaudio
[06:39] <kuene> brenner, still does not work but now i can choose in gnome prefernces between 3 resolutions: 1027x768 800x600 640x480 but no 1200x800... what other sync rates are reasonable?
[06:40] <adwait> jamie_k: well, if u haven't got the multiple sounds working with this, u could try uninstalling it
[06:40] <jamie_k> adwait, i did
[06:40] <adwait> also, for multiple sounds, try the ubuntu forums method
[06:40] <brenner> kuene: widescreen complicates things
[06:40] <Bjorn2> who asked me if i got my microphone working under audigy 2 ?
[06:40] <adwait> !multiple sounds
[06:40] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, adwait
[06:40] <adwait> !multiple_sounds
[06:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, adwait
[06:40] <jamie_k> adwait, it's now completely silent -- i also follwed ths : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8882
[06:40] <kuene> brenner, oh...
[06:40] <brenner> kuene: it's not that bad!
[06:41] <Bjorn2> who asked me if i got my microphone working under audigy 2 ?
[06:41] <brenner> kuene: but basically, you'll need to either find your rates for your computer model by googling
[06:41] <brenner> multiple sounds:
[06:41] <brenner> !sound
[06:41] <ubotu> sound is, like, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[06:42] <kuene> brenner, no i dont think so. i will have do some research. i thank you very very much for your help. you sure showed me the right way!
[06:42] <jamie_k> ubotu, i'll follow the second link thx
[06:42] <ubotu> jamie_k: What?
[06:42] <brenner> kuene: hopefully, you'll give ubuntu a longer go before you decide to go back to debian
[06:42] <adwait> jamie_k: ubotu = a bot
[06:42] <selinium> Anybody know how to sort out xauth problems?
[06:42] <Node_> lmao!
[06:43] <volatile_> hey, how do I get rid of an RPM package converted to DEB from my ubuntu system?
[06:43] <kuene> brenner, its for my father :)
[06:43] <adwait> volatile_: i guess dpkg -r should work
[06:43] <brenner> kuene: tip: google with 'HorizSync' as a keyword
[06:43] <volatile_> I converted the RPM using alien, then installed the DEB, but it didn't install right
[06:43] <volatile_> ok
[06:43] <volatile_> thx
[06:43] <volatile_> let me try :D
[06:43] <volatile_> do I have to type in the package name?
[06:43] <brenner> kuene: oh, well hope he sticks longer with it :)
[06:43] <jamie_k> adwait, heheh it sounded like a human
[06:44] <adwait> jamie_k: hehe.........
[06:44] <brenner> volatile_: locally installed deb files show up in synaptic
[06:44] <adwait> volatile_: yes
[06:44] <volatile_> ok
[06:44] <volatile_> it's a custom progrma install though
[06:44] <volatile_> will it still show up in synaptic?
[06:45] <selinium> volitile_ Yes it should
[06:45] <brenner> volatile_: if you used dpkg -i, yes
[06:45] <volatile_> cool, I'm using dpkg
[06:45] <volatile_> it's working
[06:45] <volatile_> thx
[06:45] <brenner> volatile_: should be in the sections list
[06:45] <ninjafish> I have pasted an attempt to get flashplugin-nonfree and an apt-get update http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1443 showing a list of repositorys
[06:45] <selinium> any bluetooth wizards about?
[06:46] <volatile_> I uninstalled it
[06:46] <f_newton> has planetmirror.com been discontinued?
[06:46] <volatile_> let me explain
[06:47] <BETA7> umm
[06:47] <BETA7> quite alot of ppl here
[06:47] <brenner> ninjafish: you don't have multiverse enabled.
[06:47] <brenner> ninjafish: i think you're getting confused...the mirrormax line is backports
[06:47] <Veon> Anyone know if there is any program for Ubuntu which can connect with Ipod?
[06:47] <selinium> ninjafish: WHere are you from? I'll send you a repo list. you need mutliverse enabled
[06:47] <brenner> ninjafish: just use the repo list found here:
[06:47] <brenner> !repos
[06:47] <ubotu> hmm... repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:48] <ninjafish> I am from uk
[06:48] <volatile_> I installed linux through VMware, then I installed the VMware Tools into ubuntu, but I used the RPM, I converted it to DEB then used the dpkg to install the DEB, it didn't work, so now I uninstalled the .DEB and tried to install from the binary but it says that "a previous installation of VMware has been detected" even though I removed it... Any ideas?
[06:48] <ninjafish> Thanks I will update my lists
[06:48] <brenner> Veon: gtkpod
[06:49] <Veon> brenner, Thanx.
[06:49] <f_newton> is there another extras site beside planetmirror?
[06:49] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[06:49] <ubotu> well, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:49] <brenner> volatile_: you might have traces of your deb file install left
[06:50] <HappyFool> volatile_: try dpkg --purge <whatever>
[06:50] <volatile_> ok
[06:50] <eruin> anyone know where to get this metacity theme? http://www.stellingwerff.com/?p=5
[06:50] <volatile_> let me tryu
[06:50] <eruin> sorry, url is http://www.stellingwerff.com/TheWidgetFactory/The%20Widget%20Factory.png
[06:50] <volatile_> purging now
[06:50] <brenner> purge is such a cool word :)
[06:50] <f_newton> !backports
[06:50] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[06:50] <Seveas> eruin, impossible
[06:51] <eruin> Seveas: why is that?
[06:51] <Seveas> that's still in heavy development as you can read in that blog post
[06:51] <maximaus> [very nervous] Hey all, I ran Hoary-Live all last night (mounted Warty to use Flash and Realplayer), today Warty won't run and my /home partition is invisible to explore2fs (using XP) [/very nervous]  Run a live Linux CD and do a "fsck"?
[06:51] <eruin> Seveas: the metacity theme, not the gtk theme ;)
[06:51] <f_newton> Seveas, is planetmirror.com down temporarily or is it a permanent thing?
[06:52] <Seveas> eruin, ah, ok
[06:52] <Seveas> dunno, ask richard himself :)
[06:52] <volatile_> what's the command to delete a directory?
[06:52] <volatile_> in bash?
[06:52] <brenner> maximaus: wow  livecd shouldn't have done that
[06:52] <HappyFool> rm -rf
[06:52] <brenner> volatile_: rm -rf <dir>
[06:52] <brenner> volatile_: be careful though :)
[06:52] <volatile_> ok
[06:52] <volatile_> thx
[06:52] <surfdue> in gnome, how do i cahnge my dtk theme
[06:52] <surfdue> gtk*
[06:52] <guzu> a-ha! there's a package called discover :)
[06:53] <maximaus> I don't know if it's the live CD or a borked HDD, but both partitions are borked.
[06:53] <f_newton> volatile either locate or whereis the files first to learn where they all installed to
[06:53] <f_newton> which could do the job too
[06:53] <f_newton> rm -rf is a very powerful and permanent solution
[06:53] <paganini> ROFL!
[06:53] <selinium> Seveas: I am having problems with Xauthority. Can you help?
[06:53] <brenner> surfdue: gnome-theme-manager?
[06:54] <Bjorn2> heh
[06:54] <Bjorn2> I can't eject my cd anymore
[06:54] <Bjorn2> when i type eject in terminal
[06:54] <Bjorn2> it does nothing
[06:54] <topyli> volatile_: you can remove an empty dir with rmdir. if it's not empty, you need rm -rf as noted
[06:54] <f_newton> what is the output Bjorn2 ?
[06:54] <Bjorn2> ject: unable to eject, last error: Onjuist argument
[06:54] <Seveas> selinium, just remove the ~/.Xauthority file :)
[06:54] <guzu> Bjorn2, umount -l
[06:54] <Bjorn2> Its dutch :x
[06:54] <eruin> anyone know which package provides fglrxinfo ?
[06:54] <chmuri> hi
[06:55] <guzu> Bjorn2, only if you loose your hope to find out who's locking the cd drive :)
[06:55] <surfdue> does ubuntu come with a text to speach program
[06:55] <brenner> ubotu: tell eruin about ati
[06:55] <apokryphos> eruin: xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:55] <selinium> Seveas: Done that. But i stil get error   Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[06:55] <chmuri> whos from poland i need help..:)
[06:55] <Arnia> surfdue: Festival
[06:55] <f_newton> Bjorn2, if all else faile reboot the box and eject it that way ...or get a paper clip and find the little hole
[06:55] <RiXtEr> hey all... just got my ubuntu system installed... i need a root password though... any ideas?
[06:55] <paganini> So, apparently the kernel has a problem with Compaq Presario SR1010NX desktops (they use MSI motherboards of some sort). It doesn't get past loading init.rd before it resets. Apparently, some Asus motherboards also have this same problem.
[06:55] <Bjorn2> reboot the whole system
[06:55] <selinium> Seveas: after i have logged back in again
[06:56] <Bjorn2> or just X ?
[06:56] <f_newton> Seveas, was that ask richard comment concerning planetmirror?
[06:56] <metis> can someone help me figure out my postfix? trying to make it work for my creloaded website
[06:56] <paganini> With Fedora, there's a patched kernel you can download to boot off of, then switch to the regular install media.
[06:56] <HappyFool> Bjorn2: try to find out what's using the cdrom using 'lsof' or 'fuser' (e.g., lsof /dev/cdrom)
[06:56] <surfdue> how do i start this festival
[06:56] <surfdue> or getit
[06:56] <Bjorn2> nautilus is
[06:56] <paganini> My question is: is there anything like this for ubuntu? And, how likely is it that the fedora patched boot kernel would be able to install Ubuntu?
[06:57] <volatile_> I have a tather simple question but I can't figure it out, how do you determine the disk space left on your HD?
[06:57] <Bjorn2> but i don't see it on my screen?
[06:57] <f_newton> paganini, uh compaq either uses gigabyte or aopen boards
[06:57] <HappyFool> Bjorn2: hmm. no minimized windows?
[06:57] <surfdue> nvm
[06:57] <Bjorn2> nope
[06:57] <dgottfried> volatile_: df -ahl
[06:57] <HappyFool> Bjorn2: well, you can either try to track it down, or just logout and login and try again
[06:57] <Seveas> f_newton, no that was to eruin
[06:57] <paganini> f_newton, check this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/18/2005/02/1/229524
[06:57] <volatile_> lol, ok :D
[06:57] <Seveas> I know nothing about planetmirror
[06:57] <f_newton> ok thanks....
[06:58] <guzu> Bjorn2, for root password, i've booted in safe mode (or whatever name has the second entry on the grub menu wich in fact is runlevel1), then: passwd and entered the root password i want
[06:58] <chmuri> what is the asembler and turbo pascal for linux programs??
[06:58] <Seveas> chmuri, fpc
[06:58] <HappyFool> Bjorn2: i guess 'pkill nautilus' might work too; not sure what that will break
[06:58] <Seveas> (for pascal)
[06:58] <topyli> guzu: you might as well do "sudo passwd root" :)
[06:59] <HappyFool> assembler is nasm, or gas (i think)
[06:59] <f_newton> paganini, while I cannot put it past them and it is possible ive missed a run or two.. ive never known compaq to use msi boards... I guess I live and learn eh?   you did id it with the fccid# right?
[06:59] <Bjorn2> hmm
[06:59] <Bjorn2> i killed nautilus
[06:59] <Bjorn2> it was hidden somewhere Oo
[06:59] <Seveas> HappyFool, gas indeed
[07:00] <eruin> hmm, are packages supposed to put stuff in /usr/X11R6 ?
[07:00] <ninjafish> hmm taking of root, my root terminal does not ask for a password any more, how do I unroot myself?
[07:00] <surfdue> does festival have a gue?
[07:00] <surfdue> gui
[07:00] <eruin> I mean, wasn't that changed to /usr/X11 or similar?
[07:00] <Seveas> eruin, on hoary: yes, on breezy: possibly, but not in breezy final
[07:00] <f_newton> Seveas, I cannot seem to get planetmirror.com (backport extras) to load in browser or using apt-get and I was wondering if anyone knew if it was down... I need java
[07:00] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[07:00] <ubotu> somebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:00] <Seveas> !hoary-extras
[07:00] <Seveas> hey!
[07:00] <HappyFool> :P
[07:01] <bratsche> surfdue: I don't think so.
[07:01] <paganini> f_newton, nah, I don't have physical access to the machine. It's in kansas city. I'm basing my assement on my trust in the competence of others.
[07:01] <surfdue> is there a text to speach app with a gui?
[07:01] <paganini> So, I could be totally wrong. :)
[07:01] <Seveas> f_newton, grab another mirror from that page
[07:01] <f_newton> ok Seveas will try...
[07:01] <Seveas> f_newton, or use 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ /' while it's up
[07:02] <f_newton> paganini you can go to compaq site with model number and possibly the data sheet will help you...  I have to run.'..thanks for the help y'all
[07:02] <HappyFool> oh, the assembler is called 'as' -- was wondering where it was
[07:02] <surfdue> is there a text to speach app with a gui??
[07:02] <paganini> Cool
[07:03] <chmuri> fpc in google i find??
[07:03] <topyli> surfdue: i think the target audience of text-to-speech doen't care much about guis :)
[07:03] <HappyFool> chmuri: there's a 'gpc' in the ubuntu repositories (gnu pascal compiler)
[07:03] <srid> why not this official? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//nginyang.uvt.nl/&ei=aWIHQ8exH6b4-AG79tG_Dg&sig2=fUXc1AhnZRytsfEgS0ttVQ
[07:04] <srid> sorry, nginyang.uvt.nl/
[07:04] <apokryphos> srid: what is it?
[07:05] <HappyFool> ubuntu dvd image
[07:05] <apokryphos> and how is it not official?
[07:05] <apokryphos> you can download all of it from releases.ubuntu.com
[07:05] <HappyFool> it's not hosted on ubuntu.com (so i presume)
[07:05] <apokryphos> it is
[07:05] <HappyFool> well, the dvd bittorrent thing went missing for a while
[07:06] <Bjorn2> :(
[07:06] <HappyFool> and there wasn't an http link before -- is there one now?
[07:06] <Bjorn2> I tried to compile xchat 2.4.4 for my system
[07:06] <surfdue> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[07:06] <surfdue> See `config.log' for more details.
[07:06] <srid> will shipit.ubuntulinux.org ship DVDs?
[07:06] <surfdue> how do i fix this
[07:06] <Bjorn2> But when i start it it says 2.4.1 ?
[07:06] <HappyFool> surfdue: import 'build-essential'
[07:06] <srid> Bjorn2: try /usr/local/bin/xchat
[07:06] <apokryphos> srid: I don't think so, no. But the Install CD is thought to become live+install
[07:06] <apokryphos> not sure about the development in htat, but it was a thought flying around some time ago
[07:07] <chmuri> when the new ubuntu version its steable relase
[07:07] <chmuri> ??
[07:07] <HappyFool> chmuri: october
[07:07] <apokryphos> October
[07:07] <apokryphos> !breezyrelease
[07:07] <ubotu> apokryphos: I haven't a clue
[07:07] <raven3x7> surfdue, and maybe also apt-get build-dep xchat
[07:07] <apokryphos> !breezyschedule
[07:07] <ubotu> hmm... breezyschedule is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[07:07] <srid> !breezy-release
[07:07] <ubotu> srid: What?
[07:07] <surfdue> why raven.
[07:07] <sander__> Could anyone help I get the error 'Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' even when I sudo.
[07:07] <srid> ubotu: you suck!
[07:07] <ubotu> srid: I give up, what is it?
[07:07] <surfdue> build-dep xchat
[07:07] <surfdue> what will that do.
[07:07] <surfdue> im using xchat?
[07:08] <raven3x7> surfdue, well if you lack more dependencies that will probably get them
[07:08] <raven3x7> sander__, do try to use apt and synaptic at the same time?
[07:08] <surfdue> checking correct functioning of Qt installation... failure
[07:08] <surfdue> configure: error: Failed to find matching components of a complete
[07:08] <surfdue>                   Qt installation. Try using more options,
[07:08] <surfdue>                   see ./configure --help.
[07:09] <surfdue> how doi fix this
[07:09] <phantom_> hi people
[07:09] <Bjorn2> srid,
[07:09] <HappyFool> surfdue: you need to install the qt development libraries
[07:09] <Bjorn2> didn't work
[07:09] <Bjorn2> =/
[07:09] <phantom_> I'm new. Just installed Ubuntu
[07:09] <HappyFool> surfdue: what are you trying to install?
[07:09] <surfdue> alias text to speach
[07:09] <surfdue> unless ther eis a deb package for it
[07:09] <phantom_> noob here. trying to fix ATI video and SoundCard
[07:09] <surfdue> :P
[07:09] <ook> does ubuntu have any video player package that would play divx and quicktime without additional tweaking? :)
[07:10] <Bjorn2> vlc ?
[07:10] <HappyFool> surfdue: the software is called 'alias' ?
[07:10] <sander__> raven3x7: I'm only using apt-get from the command line. I think something happened when I tried to apt-get and didn't have enough disk space.
[07:10] <surfdue> yes
[07:10] <surfdue> alias7.0
[07:10] <HappyFool> surfdue: not obviously available in ubuntu repo's
[07:10] <surfdue> 1.0
[07:10] <pudland> hi all, can anyone help with xsane parallel port scanner
[07:10] <raven3x7> sander__, oh. maybe you should try killall apt-get?
[07:10] <surfdue> how doi fix this qt error?
[07:11] <surfdue> i have qt
[07:11] <surfdue> i use it for skype.
[07:11] <surfdue> aparently it is installed
[07:11] <jordan_> anyone in here have an ipod working with GTKpod?
[07:11] <pudland> says no device found
[07:11] <jordan_> over usb that is...
[07:11] <paganini> This is the motherboard that's having trouble. Anyone see anything here that would keep the kernel from loading?
[07:11] <raven3x7> surfdue, you need the development libraries.
[07:11] <paganini> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&lang=en&cc=us&product=403786&dlc=en&docname=c00063244
[07:11] <HappyFool> surfdue: i think you need libqt3-mt-dev
[07:11] <surfdue> wow
[07:11] <surfdue> lol
[07:11] <surfdue> ok thansk
[07:12] <surfdue> alot of files.
[07:12] <Spudchat> hey guys
[07:12] <Spudchat> i got a question about eggdrops, the irc bot
[07:12] <pudland> can anyone help with parallel port scanner config?
[07:12] <justin`> FireEgl: dum de dum dum
[07:12] <exuser> hello all
[07:12] <sander__> raven3x7: Thanks. There was a hung apt-get in the process list for some reason.
[07:12] <Spudchat> it says i need tcl but ive got it installed...maybe theres a diff package i need?
[07:12] <setite> hello
[07:13] <surfdue> darn
[07:13] <surfdue> same error
[07:13] <QMario>  HappyFool, how do I change the environmental variable, "TMPDIR"? 
[07:13] <raven3x7> surfdue type sudo apt-get build-dep xchat
[07:13] <HappyFool> Spudchat: you can install eggdrop from synaptic or with apt-get
[07:13] <surfdue> i did
[07:13] <raven3x7> sander__, np
[07:13] <HappyFool> raven3x7: he's not building xchat, i don't think
[07:13] <Spudchat> synaptic
[07:13] <QMario>  
[07:14] <topyli> QMario: TMPDIR=/foo/bar
[07:14] <raven3x7> HappyFool, he said he was...
[07:14] <topyli> QMario: for the current shell
[07:14] <HappyFool> QMario: TMPDIR=/tmp/or/whatever,  or export TMPDIR=/tmp/or/whatever
[07:14] <QMario>   
[07:14] <HappyFool> raven3x7: i think that was Bjorn2 (?)
[07:14] <QMario> Okay.
[07:14] <raven3x7> although why xchat would need qt...
[07:14] <surfdue> configure: error: Failed to find matching components of a complete
[07:14] <surfdue>                   Qt installation. Try using more options,
[07:14] <surfdue>                   see ./configure --help.
[07:14] <Bjorn2> I was
[07:14] <surfdue> hmm
[07:14] <Bjorn2> building it
[07:14] <QMario> What does "foo" mean?
[07:14] <raven3x7> oh heh
[07:14] <tenco> test
[07:14] <setite> name
[07:15] <desrt> does anyone know what the story with /lib/linux-restricted-modules is?
[07:15] <HappyFool> you're supposed to replace it with whatever you need
[07:15] <othernoob> foo is a secret code QMario :p
[07:15] <HappyFool> surfdue: you installed the dev library ?
[07:15] <tennlaw207> hello nalioth are you there
[07:15] <Spudchat> still no luck :(
[07:15] <surfdue> yes
[07:15] <setite> yea foo is the variable that you put your name or whatever in
[07:15] <QMario> !foo
[07:15] <ubotu> baz
[07:15] <desrt> !foo
[07:15] <hybrid_goth> lol
[07:15] <setite> little bunny foo foo
[07:15] <raven3x7> surfdue what are you compi;ing?
[07:15] <hybrid_goth> !foo foo
[07:15] <ubotu> hybrid_goth: I haven't a clue
[07:15] <surfdue> trying tooo
[07:15] <surfdue> lol
[07:15] <HappyFool> surfdue: hmm. can you place the output of './configure' on the pastebin ?
[07:15] <QMario>  The Muppets. 
[07:16] <setite> somebody slap me
[07:16] <setite> i returned to the dark side
[07:16] <Spudchat> where do things i install with stnaptic go?
[07:16] <setite> i wiped my drive.. adn reinstalled windoze
[07:16] <surfdue> http://pastebin.com/341691
[07:16] <kirtis> Spudchat, all over the place.
[07:16] <Spudchat> eheh
[07:16] <Spudchat> how bout eggdrop?
[07:17] <HappyFool> surfdue: is there an URL for this software?
[07:17] <QMario> Mmmm.
[07:17] <Spudchat> how would i search for it?
[07:17] <Spudchat> sorry im still adjusting to linux from windows
[07:17] <HappyFool> !repos
[07:17] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:17] <setite> but yea...replace foo with your name or whatever you would put there
[07:18] <surfdue> http://freshmeat.net/projects/alias/
[07:18] <kirtis> Spudchat, find /usr -name eggdrop maybe?
[07:18] <setite> and its not ubuntus fault i quit linux
[07:18] <setite> its cedega's
[07:18] <hybrid_goth> lol
[07:18] <HappyFool> Spudchat: read those links; add the repositories, and then search for eggdrop again.
[07:18] <Spudchat> i did add the repos
[07:18] <kirtis> Spudchat, Actually the easy way is to look at the contents of the eggdrop package to see what it installed, i'm trying to find the option
[07:18] <hybrid_goth> setite: life is easier if you use the alternatives
[07:18] <setite> it was too bad... i would click an attack.. and it would take between 2 and 10 damn seconds to actually register the click
[07:18] <tenco> setite: who is cedega?
[07:19] <topyli> heh
[07:19] <setite> !cedega
[07:19] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[07:19] <Spudchat> and kirtis it said usr is a directory
[07:19] <HappyFool> surfdue: i think the configure script may be buggy -- line 131 looks a bit suspicious
[07:19] <jordan_> they make a wine distro with a config tool
[07:19] <surfdue> k
[07:19] <kirtis> Spudchat, dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/name_of_deb.deb will show you the contents
[07:19] <hybrid_goth> tenco: emulation proggy
[07:19] <setite> cedega is WineX project to play win games on linux
[07:19] <tenco> and?
[07:19] <setite> it sucks
[07:19] <tenco> and? :)
[07:19] <hybrid_goth> lol
[07:19] <Spudchat> im sorry i dont think i understand that :(
[07:19] <paganini> For the amount of time necessary to mess with cedega (and the fact that you have to pay for it unless you *really* want to mess with it yourself) it's cheaper just to have a second computer running XP
[07:20] <topyli> xgalaga works very well natively
[07:20] <setite> and then?
[07:20] <hybrid_goth> UT is native to linux
[07:20] <paganini> UT obviously rocks.
[07:20] <setite> thats one game
[07:20] <tenco> why do you need an emulator?
[07:20] <setite> and then there is like another
[07:20] <setite> tenco are you serious?
[07:20] <paganini> Doom3 is too, isn't it?
[07:20] <tenco> setite: yes
[07:20] <setite> yea both games i dotn play
[07:20] <spola> he tends to be serious
[07:20] <hybrid_goth> paganini: i think do
[07:20] <hybrid_goth> **so
[07:20] <kirtis> Spudchat, just run that command in a terminal, it'll show you what the package installs.  Replace name_of_deb.deb with the actual name.
[07:21] <paganini> But, say, if you want Shogun: Total War, you in trouble.
[07:21] <setite> tenco i own games... that i bought so i could play them... under linux they either dont play at all or play so poorly that they might as well be unplayable
[07:21] <jordan_> what were you trying to play?
[07:21] <tenco> setite: ah, ok. i used to play games. but i gave it up. too expensive.
[07:21] <kirtis> That's what a ps2 is for, IMO.
[07:22] <Klementas> it seems that Ubuntu doesn't update software, except for security/bugfixes, until the next release, or is there some way to get newer versions ?
[07:22] <HappyFool> Spudchat: if your repositories are setup, you should be able to find 'eggdrop' in synaptic
[07:22] <reiki> Spamassassin question: using debug I'm being told spamassassin can't find Net/DNS.pm.  How do I manually dearch my system for that file?
[07:22] <topyli> kirtis: and windows :)
[07:22] <setite> nah... consoles are not nearly as good as a pc
[07:22] <hybrid_goth> Klementas: backports
[07:22] <hybrid_goth> !backports
[07:22] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[07:22] <setite> selection or quality
[07:22] <spuho> hello. my ubuntu doesn't recognize that I have a blank CD in my drive when I'm trying to burn..what's the problem?
[07:22] <HappyFool> surfdue: sorry, i'm not sure how to fix your problem
[07:22] <Spudchat> found him!!!!
[07:22] <surfdue> k
[07:22] <Klementas> hmmmm, so I need to add a line to my sources.list then
[07:23] <surfdue> does anyone know a good text to speech
[07:23] <surfdue> app
[07:23] <Spudchat> i did find him in synaptic but now i need to ./configure
[07:23] <HappyFool> Spudchat: no
[07:23] <Spudchat> and he claims i have no tcl
[07:23] <hybrid_goth> surfdue: flite
[07:23] <HappyFool> Spudchat: the whole point of using synaptic is that you don't have to compile
[07:23] <spuho> I tried burning with nautilus and burn and they both refuse to believe I have a blank cd in the drive
[07:23] <HappyFool> Spudchat: if you installed with synaptic, you have eggdrop compiled and ready to run
[07:23] <Spudchat> so all i have to do is edit the config and run eggdrop with that config?
[07:23] <HappyFool> Spudchat: i presume so; i have never used eggdrop
[07:23] <hybrid_goth> spuho: ya sure it is blank?
[07:23] <Spudchat> ok thanks
[07:23] <Spudchat> ill give it a shot
[07:24] <spuho> hybrid_goth: yea
[07:24] <hybrid_goth> spuho: is the burner se to look at the drive?
[07:24] <tenco> setite: i bought me a physics textbook for the price of two games (~70) -> >1300 pages and 3,3 kg of dead tree! :)
[07:24] <tenco> instead*
[07:24] <paganini> Heheh
[07:24] <maximaus> Sitting here waiting for Feather Linux to fsck my borked Warty...Upgrade to Hoary or Breezy's last candidate?
[07:24] <hybrid_goth> tenco: lol
[07:24] <spuho> hybrid_goth: se? what do you mean?
[07:24] <paganini> Tenco, you ever see the THomas Finney calc book?
[07:25] <paganini> TWO ENTIRE TREES!
[07:25] <hybrid_goth> maximaus: hoary
[07:25] <tenco> paganini: ugh o_O
[07:25] <hybrid_goth> spuho: make sure nautilus is looking at the drive with the blank cd
[07:25] <maximaus> hybrid_goth:  Yeah--to be honest I'm still happy with Warty, installed it in December. :P
[07:25] <raven3x7> surfdue i believe lingoteach comes with one(?) and theres an ubuntu package for it
[07:26] <hybrid_goth> maximaus: yea hoary is nice though
[07:26] <tenco> paganini: if i cobmine my pysics textbook, my bronstein, my stcker and my Oxford AL i should also come near to this %-)
[07:26] <tenco> s/cobmine/combine/
[07:26] <spuho> hybrid_goth: I only have one drive and it recognizes it's a CD burning drive
[07:26] <maximaus> One last question: possible to replace Xorg with Xfree in Hoary (I've got the dreaded i810)
[07:26] <kirtis> maximaus, yup, you'd only have xfree if you did an upgrade.
[07:27] <paganini> I cleaned my room recently, and found a bunch of old stuff from when I was in school.
[07:27] <reiki> there's a boatload of people in #spamassassin but you could hear a pin drop in there. :)
[07:27] <paganini> Like, entire linux manuals that I'd printed out.
[07:27] <maximaus> kirtis: I'm a bit confused, I thought Hoary came with Xorg by default?
[07:27] <paganini> The Art of Assembler, frex, filled two binders.
[07:27] <HappyFool> reiki: their filters are obviously overefficient
[07:27] <hybrid_goth> spuho: ok are you trying to burn and it gives you an error about not seeing it or about not being blank?
[07:27] <kirtis> maximaus, It does, but, IIRC if you upgrade it stays with xfree.
[07:27] <tenco> reiki: like in #netbsd most of the time? :)
[07:27] <hybrid_goth> paganini: wow
[07:27] <reiki> HappyFool: indeed. :)
[07:27] <paganini> I had like 3 reams of paper. My trash bag weighed like 50 pounds.
[07:27] <kirtis> maximaus, So it's easier to just install fresh
[07:28] <maximaus> kirtis, I'm doing a fresh install due to my HDD.
[07:28] <spuho> hybrid_goth: it says "please enter a blank disk"
[07:28] <spola> why was ubuntu based on debian?
[07:28] <hybrid_goth> paganini: i would have taken that book
[07:28] <dubnium> is it possible to upgrade to the amd64 platform if i installed the i386?
[07:28] <hybrid_goth> spuho: hmm. well idk from here sorry
[07:28] <bender_> sup
[07:28] <maximaus> kirtis: do I look for xfree in synaptic after install?
[07:28] <kirtis> dubnium, I'd have to say no.
[07:28] <spuho> hybrid_goth: ok well
[07:28] <spola> nuffin, just chillin
[07:28] <spuho> i must suffer then
[07:28] <hybrid_goth> b3nd3r is l33t
[07:28] <tenco> paganini: entire linux manuals? but you have a monitor attached to your computer, right? ;-)
[07:28] <reiki> I'm so close to having this working CORRECTLY. I have Spamassassin catching spam in Evolution simply by adding a filter that pipes to spamassassin. But it's ignoring whitelist_from and it's not tagging the subject line.
[07:28] <kirtis> maximaus, No, you don't have to do anything.  You'll already have xorg after installing hoary.
[07:28] <Xenguy> spola: freedom and technical excellence
[07:28] <mjr> dubnium, not really, reainstall over it. You can retain old data if you do it by hand.
[07:28] <spuho> thanks anyway
[07:28] <hybrid_goth> spuho: try an external drive
[07:28] <b3nd3r> \/3rY leet
[07:29] <hybrid_goth> lol
[07:29] <spuho> hybrid_goth: please elaborate
[07:29] <b3nd3r> so ya
[07:29] <andrei> hello. i am trying to set the font encoding for totem-xine but no luck. does anyone know how to do that ? thanks
[07:29] <b3nd3r> im bord
[07:29] <maximaus> kirtis: LOL, thing is that I don't want Xorg as it doesn't offer acceleration for my onboard vid card. Not a huge deal, but wondering if I could *downgrade* to Xfree like in Warty. :P
[07:29] <HappyFool> maximaus: there's an xserver-xfree86 package in universe
[07:29] <paganini> tenco: Yeah, two of them now in fact. But like, when you most need manuals is when you can't read online.
[07:29] <hybrid_goth> spuho: i would try connecting an external burner and try to burn using that drive.
[07:29] <paganini> Like, when the kernel won't boot, say.
[07:30] <paganini> :)
[07:30] <maximaus> HappyFool: Cool! :D
[07:30] <HappyFool> maximaus: version 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu26
[07:30] <pudland> any help on scanner drivers??
[07:30] <b3nd3r> any one using Ubuntu 64?
[07:30] <kirtis> maximaus, oooooh.  Probably.. i think it's still there.
[07:30] <spuho> hybrid_goth:ok, I'll see what I can do, thanks
[07:30] <mjr> b3nd3r, yes
[07:30] <reiki> anyone good with spamassassin? I'm close to having a good spam tagging tool here... just a couple minor things :)
[07:30] <hybrid_goth> spuho: good luck
[07:30] <Scrawny1> hey guy just a real quick question for ya's :)
[07:30] <b3nd3r> mjr is it noticibly faster?
[07:30] <HappyFool> maximaus: not sure if anyone uses it; maybe you should ask around a bit more
[07:30] <Scrawny1> how do I upgrade xchat to 2.4.4?
[07:31] <reiki> what's the command line entry to search for a file anywhere in my filesystem?
[07:31] <HappyFool> maximaus: not that i'd know ;) but i think most ppl on hoary use xorg
[07:31] <maximaus> Thanks all, I'm assuming I'll have to edit some text too, but as long as Xfree is available in Synaptic, I'll give it a shot. :D
[07:31] <Xenguy> reiki: just ask
[07:31] <hybrid_goth> Scrawny1: backports
[07:31] <hybrid_goth> !backports
[07:31] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[07:31] <paganini> If, between now and then, someone discovers some miraculous way to get Ubuntu to install on that Compaq Presario, drop me a PM
[07:31] <selinium> Seveas: worked out the problem. I had maxed out my HD so it couldn't rewrite the Xauthority file.
[07:31] <reiki> I'm so close to having this working CORRECTLY. I have Spamassassin catching spam in Evolution simply by adding a filter that pipes to spamassassin. But it's ignoring whitelist_from and it's not tagging the subject line.
[07:31] <apokryphos> reiki: easy way: locate (you'll need to have updatedb before). Other way: find / | grep {somefile}
[07:31] <b3nd3r> paganini ...
[07:31] <Xenguy> reiki: 'find' or 'locate'
[07:31] <mjr> b3nd3r, depends what you mean by "noticably"
[07:31] <b3nd3r> paganini im running a Compaq Presario 2100 laptop... perfectly fine.
[07:32] <Xenguy> reiki: 'locate' requires you to run 'sudo updatedb' first
[07:32] <Scrawny1> ok whats the website to get all the repsositories?
[07:32] <b3nd3r> mjr well ive never ran 64 so when i get my new lappy in im wanding if its gonna be a lot faster
[07:32] <mjr> b3nd3r, your browser probably won't be noticably altered, but your long encoding jobs will
[07:32] <b3nd3r> hmm ok
[07:33] <b3nd3r> how about X and shit.. still the same
[07:33] <b3nd3r> ?
[07:33] <paganini> b3nd3r, it's with this monterboard:
[07:33] <paganini> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&lang=en&cc=us&product=403786&dlc=en&docname=c00063244
[07:33] <glick> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=25529
[07:33] <glick> i dont get what thats about
[07:33] <apokryphos> much, much faster, yes.
[07:33] <mjr> b3nd3r, basically everything where the CPU is the bottleneck will improve
[07:33] <mjr> but the UI is generally not one of these things
[07:33] <glick> linus asking for license fees to use the linux name?
[07:33] <b3nd3r> hmm good point
[07:33] <reiki> ok ... sudo locate DNS.pm found nothing. This appears to be a perl module? And Spamassassin is looking for it
[07:34] <Xenguy> glick: yeah, I found that weird also
[07:34] <b3nd3r> mjr what are you specs?
[07:34] <Xenguy> reiki: did you install from package or source?
[07:34] <kirtis> reiki, apt-get install libnet-dns-perl?
[07:34] <mjr> why does it matter?
[07:34] <b3nd3r> just wonderin
[07:34] <reiki> Xenguy: I installed using apt-get install
[07:34] <Flying-Penguin> does anyone know how to open firestarter?
[07:34] <rmflagg> I have a question about gdm under Hoary.  About a week ago, my default session changed from Fluxbox to Gnome AND it no longer asks if I want to change my default session setting.  Any idea what could have happened?
[07:35] <Flying-Penguin> I am trying to edit my firewall
[07:35] <reiki> kirtis: I could try that... :)
[07:35] <Xenguy> reiki: what kirtis said
[07:36] <Scrawny1> !bucksport help
[07:36] <ubotu> Scrawny1: I give up, what is it?
[07:36] <reiki> Xenguy: ok installed that... gonna run spamassassin through debug again and see if that fixed anything...
[07:36] <booger> is there a way to find out the speed of a dvd -rw drive??
[07:36] <b3nd3r> mjr what are your specs? laptop or desktop?
[07:36] <Flying-Penguin> what program would I run to mess with my firewall?
[07:36] <HappyFool> firestarter
[07:37] <Scrawny1> where can I get new bucksports?
[07:37] <HappyFool> what's a bucksport ?
[07:37] <apokryphos> backport, I presume
[07:37] <apokryphos> !sources
[07:37] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:37] <Scrawny1> thank- you :)
[07:38] <b3nd3r> OMFG that was goooood
[07:38] <b3nd3r> Ice Cold PEPSI in the morning
[07:38] <b3nd3r> :)
[07:38] <apokryphos> any drink but milk in the morning is evil
[07:38] <b3nd3r> lol
[07:39] <wsmith> In which channel would I find experts in X (especially MergedFB problems)?
[07:39] <b3nd3r> pepsi is like the oposite of milk.. it does a body bad.. and destroys your bones lol
[07:39] <rmflagg> Is anyone out there well steeped in GDM settings?
[07:39] <b3nd3r> wsmith whats the issue
[07:39] <kirtis> booger, lshal|grep read_speed ? maybe
[07:39] <wsmith> b3nd3r, whenever I go into an opengl app, one of my viewports resets to offset 0,0
[07:40] <reiki> Xenguy and kirtis: ok that fixed the complaint in debug mode. Now I get absolutely no errors, and I can see it's looking in the right places for conf files, but it's still not modifying teh subject line, using whitelist_from, or even adding X-Spam headers. It's not modifying the headers at all
[07:40] <b3nd3r> offset 0,0 meaning??? it goes blank?
[07:40] <wsmith> no, it goes to the same viewport as the other one (it becomes a clone of sorts)
[07:40] <b3nd3r> ah
[07:40] <b3nd3r> hmm
[07:40] <wsmith> But the mouse cursor spans the two. Really confusing
[07:41] <b3nd3r> damn that is wierd
[07:41] <b3nd3r> i never did think about opengl/d3d with more than one screen.. i just had 4 monitors for my 2d destkop on kde
[07:41] <b3nd3r> what card
[07:41] <wsmith> el cheapo radeon 7000
[07:41] <b3nd3r> pffft
[07:41] <b3nd3r> good luck
[07:42] <Xenguy> reiki: It was too long ago for me to be of further help.  I know that using SA's bayesian filters with large portions of sample spam and ham dramatically increased the effectiveness of SA for me tho
[07:42] <Xenguy> reiki: i.e. 'sa-learn'
[07:42] <b3nd3r> those ATI's are a joke.. i could write better drivers for those cards than ATI and i failed algebra 4
[07:42] <rmflagg> Rats...can anyone see this message?
[07:42] <Xenguy> rmflagg: yes
[07:42] <b3nd3r> yes
[07:42] <b3nd3r> we so should have said no
[07:42] <wsmith> b3nd3r, I'm using radeon (not the proprietary ati drivers)
[07:43] <b3nd3r> hmm
[07:43] <reiki> Xenguy: oh it's WORKING as far as catching spam. It's even sorting it into a Spam folder I created. It's just ignoring the local.cf and user_prefs files as far as whitelisting and changing the header
[07:43] <rmflagg> I have a question about gdm under Hoary.  About a week ago, my default session changed from Fluxbox to Gnome AND it no longer asks if I want to change my default session setting.  Any idea what could have happened?
[07:43] <wsmith> I get dri, and it's pretty zippy, but goes nuts in ogl
[07:43] <Xenguy> reiki: you'll get there - good luck :-)
[07:43] <b3nd3r> rmflagg not sure why that happend but if you want it back i can show you how...
[07:43] <rmflagg> That would be of great help!
[07:43] <b3nd3r> wsmith man i have no idea...
[07:43] <reiki> Xenguy: thanks :)  at least teh DNS thing is fixed... now to get it tagging.....
[07:44] <b3nd3r> rmflagg so you want fluxbox back?
[07:44] <wsmith> brb. randomly changing xorg.conf values...
[07:44] <Scrawny1> thats not what I was looking for
[07:44] <rmflagg> Fluxbox is there....It's just that the settings in GDM no longer recognize the "Last" setting or the "Default" setting.  I just always go to Gnome no matter what.
[07:46] <b3nd3r> rmflagg i can show you have to get fluxbox working again .......... if thats what you mean... give me a few though
[07:46] <b3nd3r> where the hell is xinitrc located for user$
[07:46] <rmflagg> Ok
[07:47] <wsmith> woot
[07:47] <Scrawny1> I'm only going to ask this once more Where do you find extra backsports, besides the one I already have
[07:47] <b3nd3r> wsmith get it?!?
[07:47] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[07:47] <ubotu> [hoary-extras]  see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:47] <wsmith> yessa. "Too Much Configuration" problem
[07:47] <LinuxJones> b3nd3r, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
[07:47] <HappyFool> Scrawny1: you can try those too, though they're not always recommended
[07:48] <b3nd3r> LinuxJones im looking for where you set the gnome-session options
[07:48] <b3nd3r> wsmith fuck ya man good job
[07:48] <Scrawny1> lol al I want to do is upgrade x-chat to 2.4.4 LOL
[07:48] <Ng> 2.4.4 is in backports afair
[07:49] <kemik> Scrawny1:  google
[07:49] <Ng> kemik: he doesn't need google, he needs the backports repository :)
[07:49] <volatile_> backports repository is at www.ubuntulinux.com
[07:49] <kemik> Ng:  well, he should be able to find the URL with google.. he knows what he's looking for so he's just lazy
[07:50] <volatile_> just search "mplayer" it will give you the backport, REMEMBER TO "CHECK MARK" THE MULTIVERSE ETC... UNDER REPOSITORIES MENU
[07:51] <Flying-Penguin> anyone here ever herd of firestarter?
[07:51] <rmflagg> I run Firestarter...
[07:51] <XTERM> Yes...Firestarter was a bad movie about a piro kid
[07:51] <Flying-Penguin> does firestarter config the ubuntu?
[07:52] <HappyFool> !info firestarter
[07:52] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2348 kB
[07:52] <LinuxJones> b3nd3r, I am not sure where it's set used to be in the users home dir
[07:52] <rmflagg> !info transcode
[07:52] <Flying-Penguin> good job HappyFool thank you
[07:52] <spola> firestarter was one of the best singles on the 1995 podigy album "Music for the jilted genration"
[07:52] <ninjafish> spola, firestarter was on fat of the land
[07:53] <rmflagg> Has anyone gotten Transcode to run on Hoary?
[07:53] <spola> really?
[07:53] <seoleda> #list
[07:53] <Jazy84> anyon ehave an luck getting a SMC2662 or a Belkin FD5060 to work in linux? from what i understand they use the atmel chipset. they are 802.11b wifi cards
[07:53] <spola> oh yeah i was talking about speedway, sorry :p
[07:53] <Scrawny1> Kemik I already did google, I'm so fucking sick of ppl saying google when I've already fucking done it
[07:54] <Jazy84> lol Scrawny1
[07:54] <Scrawny1> why the helll do you think I'm here In a Ubuntu help rooom?
[07:55] <volatile_> can someone set me up with a bittorrent community?
[07:55] <volatile_> I'm having issues finding one through google etc...
[07:55] <Xenguy> Scrawny1: to be /ignored ?
[07:55] <thechitowncubss> www.legaltorrents.com
[07:55] <volatile_> k
[07:55] <spola> volatile_, the pirate bay !!
[07:55] <Jazy84> arr
[07:55] <absenth> I'm currently using Hoary 32Bit with an nVidia graphics card. (fresh install)  Can someone point me in the direction of a how-to for Accellerated Graphics AND dual head please?
[07:55] <spola> (pirate bay is illegal depending on your location)
[07:55] <volatile_> what's the "pirate bay?"
[07:56] <kemik> spola:  nah.. it's not.. it's illegal to download copyrighted material though
[07:56] <kemik> the site itself is not illegal ;)
[07:56] <filip_> i cant install valknut, i have an file called valknut.deb in /home/filip/Desktop/valknut.deb then this command should install it:
[07:56] <filip_> sudo apt-get install /home/filip/Desktop/valknut.deb
[07:56] <taw> hello :-)
[07:56] <filip_> does i have wrong?
[07:56] <kemik> filip_:  dpkg -i file.deb
[07:56] <rmflagg> Whaaah!  I just need to change settings in GDM, but I don't know what to change!
[07:56] <kemik> filip_:  dpkg installs .deb packages
[07:57] <kemik> !dpkg
[07:57] <ubotu> dpkg is, like, totally, the Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[07:57] <ninjafish> scawnyl, I was in #linux the other day, i asked if anyone knew an MP3 player that would mount on linux as a Mass Storage Device. I was told to RTFM, google it etc. When I commented that I do not have all the manuals and manufactures tend to always say XP only I was muted
[07:57] <b3nd3r> rmflagg one sec
[07:57] <filip_> kemik, okej when does i use apt-get install then?
[07:57] <Scrawny1> like I realy care if you ppl /ignore me I just thought maybe I can get help w/ this operating system w/o ppl saying to google when I've already it
[07:57] <kemik> filip_:  when you install stuff from the depositories
[07:57] <filip_> kemik, okej
[07:57] <booger> how can i find the max write speed for a dvd drive
[07:57] <kemik> repositories even
[07:58] <spola> don't google, yahoo!
[07:58] <kemik> !tell Scrawny1 about repositories
[07:58] <kemik> !tell Scrawny1 backports
[07:58] <spola> google is *evul*
[07:58] <kemik> !tell Scrawny1 hoary-extras
[07:58] <kemik> there you go Scrawny1
[07:58] <wsmith> hmm. are there any command line flags to send to an sdl app to tell it which video mode to use (like all xlib apps use -geometry)
[07:58] <othernoob> why does * not work when there are numbers involved?
[07:59] <Scrawny1> theres a command I for get what it is that starts w/ echo that forces updates
[07:59] <absenth> assuming I install the nvidia driver via apt-get, how do I get dual head up and running?
[07:59] <Scrawny1> er sorry upgrades
[08:00] <blockhead> !tell blockhead backports
[08:01] <booger> how can i find the max write speed for a dvd drive
[08:01] <snippy> hey there
[08:01] <snippy> can someone help me ?
[08:01] <snippy> /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/src': File exists
[08:01] <snippy> /bin/ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/src/linux' to `': No such file or directory
[08:01] <snippy> Can't find the kernel sources. Please, install them and run this program.
[08:01] <snippy> I installed the kernel sources
[08:01] <snippy> but usr/src/linux/ does not exist
[08:01] <Myrtti> note for those who tried to help me earlier with my usb memory that didn't work. It didn't mount on even Windows and I went to the store I bought it from and got one twice as big in return.
[08:01] <Scrawny1> thanks for the lack of help I'll remember this when my friends want to d/l Ubuntu
[08:02] <Myrtti> Scrawny1: what was the prob...
[08:02] <Myrtti> okkkk
[08:02] <filip_> kemik, i dont get it work should it be like this sudo dpgk -i /home/filip/Desktop/valknut.deb ?
[08:02] <aru> whats USB memory?
[08:02] <Myrtti> snippy: try #flood next time
[08:02] <booger> how can i find the max write speed for a dvd drive
[08:02] <Myrtti> aru: usb flash memory
[08:02] <booger> ???
[08:02] <aru> oh
[08:02] <aru> I was thinking USB ram... wondering why I hadn't heard of this :)
[08:03] <snippy> Myrtti thanks for the tip :) oh my.. IT WORKED!! :D
[08:03] <snippy> thanks thanks
[08:03] <othernoob> booger: manufacturers site?
[08:03] <b3nd3r> damn
[08:03] <Myrtti> aru: a Creative Muvo mp3-player/flash memory in particular
[08:03] <b3nd3r> i cant find that shit anywhere
[08:03] <booger> i dont even know the manufacture
[08:04] <Myrtti> it got crazy and said it had only 187M of free space when it should've had 256. I formatted it in Linux (apparently the wrong way) and broke it for good.
[08:04] <wsmith> booger: find the part number on the bottom of the drive and google for it. works for me about 50% of the time
[08:04] <booger> never mind I found out
[08:05] <snippy> how can I create a link to /usr/src/linux/ ?
[08:05] <wsmith> ... or stick some media in there and use speed=90000 to dvdrecord
[08:05] <dalamar> ln -s
[08:05] <barongas> I just installed my first ubuntu-dist, and it didn't ask me to supply a root password. How do I change it?
[08:05] <JazyPPC> ln -s
[08:05] <rmflagg> b3nd3r which shit is that?
[08:05] <dalamar> barongas, sudo passwd root
[08:05] <dalamar> though you'll rarely use it with ubuntu
[08:06] <Myrtti> barongas: you don't use root password
[08:06] <Paganini> You can't login as root by default, but all the sysadmin stuff is protected by it, also by default.
[08:06] <barongas> dalamar: It asks me to supply the root password when typing it in.
[08:06] <Myrtti> you do it thru sudo
[08:06] <JazyPPC> anyone ever use an atmel based wifi chip and got it to work?
[08:06] <snippy> how can I create a link to /usr/src/linux/ ?
[08:06] <barongas> Don't I need root for apt etc...
[08:06] <Paganini> You have to enter it to use Synaptic, frex.
[08:06] <Myrtti> barongas: sudo apt
[08:06] <filip_> how does i install my .deb file that is placed in /home/filip/Desktop/valknut.deb ?
[08:07] <dalamar> you use sudo for apt etc, which uses your main user passwd
[08:07] <Myrtti> barongas: use your own password
[08:07] <dalamar> so 'sudo passwd root' you actually have to put in your user pw before you can actually change the root pw
[08:08] <barongas> Thanks
[08:08] <Myrtti> indeed
[08:08] <snippy> anyone? <.<
[08:08] <b3nd3r> Paganini ... back?
[08:08] <Paganini> Yep
[08:08] <Ummmmm> I have a question: WHY?!
[08:08] <Paganini> I sent you a PM
[08:08] <b3nd3r> neet
[08:08] <Myrtti> snippy: ln -s
[08:08] <Myrtti> snippy: man ln
[08:08] <b3nd3r> ?
[08:08] <stretched_lobes> hello
[08:08] <wsmith> snippy: ln -s /usr/src/kernel-source<tab> /usr/src/linux
[08:08] <b3nd3r> ya i was lookin at that shit
[08:08] <stretched_lobes> I have a quick question
[08:08] <snippy> thanks mates
[08:08] <wsmith> snippy: followed by ln -s /usr/src/linux /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[08:09] <stretched_lobes> I have an Irock mp3 player
[08:09] <ninjafish> yes
[08:09] <absenth> 39217 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7843.400 FPS.......  Nice.
[08:09] <stretched_lobes> is there any way to upload my mp3's to the irock
[08:09] <wsmith> *sniff* I finally get MergedFB running for dual-headed accelerated goodness, and all the damn games have 4:3 aspect locked in!
[08:09] <umberleigh> where does ubuntu keep it's grub.conf file? i can't seem to find it
[08:09] <stretched_lobes> I am trying to go totally without windoze
[08:10] <snippy> wtf, I cant do a tab in terminal
[08:10] <wsmith> umberleigh, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:10] <b3nd3r> onlything i could think of is to nigger rig the shit to boot
[08:10] <ninjafish> stretched_lobes, how does the player mount in XP?
[08:10] <Bjorn2> where can I look if my 3d card acc is working ?
[08:10] <ninjafish> is it a usb disk
[08:10] <Bjorn2> acceleration
[08:10] <stretched_lobes> it had software that i downloaded from irock
[08:10] <wsmith> Bjorn2, type glxinfo. the third or so line should say "Direct Rendering... YES"
[08:10] <stretched_lobes> connects through usb
[08:11] <othernoob> mmh, why does * not work when there are numbers involved? for example lame -h -b 192 *.wav *.mp3 won't work (the wavs are 01, 02, 03...)
[08:11] <umberleigh> ahh. that'd explain why find /etc/ -name grub.conf && find /boot/ -name grub.conf didn't turn anything up
[08:11] <Bjorn2> yay
[08:11] <Bjorn2> its working
[08:11] <Bjorn2> :D
[08:11] <wsmith> othernoob, the shell expands those...
[08:11] <ninjafish> stretched, what happens if you connect it to your pc when linux is running, does it appear on the desktop?
[08:11] <othernoob> wsmith: meaning?
[08:11] <b3nd3r> man i need to sell my laptop!
[08:11] <Bjorn2> What "free" opengl shooters are there wsmith  :D?
[08:11] <filip_> how does i install .deb ?
[08:11] <barongas> is multiverse very unstable or more or less like debian unstable?
[08:11] <wsmith> othernoob, so you are saying lame -h -b 192 01.wav 02.wav 03.wav 04.wav 01.mp3 02.mp3 03.mp3 04.mp3 (assuming all those exist) and confuses the hell out of lame
[08:12] <Xenguy> filip_: dpkg -i _____
[08:12] <wsmith> Bjorn2, happypenguin.org
[08:12] <wsmith> othernoob, with lame, specifying *.mp3 is unnecessary
[08:12] <Arnia> barongas: Multiverse contains all the 'non-free' packages
[08:12] <b3nd3r> hey if any ones got linux windows unix mac os questions feel free to post them on www.usrlabs.com :)
[08:12] <stretched_lobes> I tried just plugging my usb cable in but it did not work
[08:13] <barongas> Arnia:Cool
[08:13] <othernoob> wsmith, it should do one after the other, as it would do, if the files weren't numbered
[08:13] <wsmith> stretched_lobes, type dmesg what are the last files
[08:13] <wsmith> othernoob, are the files named 01.wav, 02.wav, etc?
[08:13] <robertj> heya all, anyone know of a gtk chess with multiplayer, computer oponents with different levels, and valid move highlighting?
[08:13] <usrlabs> www.usrlabs.com is a soon to be how to site if any one has newb or eleet questions needing be answered
[08:13] <wsmith> stretched_lobes, *lines*
[08:14] <wsmith> usrlabs, please. ... no more redirects...
[08:14] <othernoob> wsmith: not quite.. they are 01-title/of/the/song.wav ....and so on
[08:14] <Xenguy> usrlabs: you are about to be permanently /ignored
[08:14] <usrlabs> wsmith ... what are yout alking
[08:14] <stretched_lobes> usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
[08:14] <wsmith> usrlabs, there's like 6 redirects (just me whining)
[08:14] <bender_> wtf
[08:14] <bender_> no there isnt.
[08:14] <stretched_lobes> do you want all lines
[08:14] <bender_> its my damn site
[08:14] <snippy> oh my.. putting a link didnt worked
[08:14] <spola> you're fit but you know it
[08:14] <snippy> the script wont find the kernel sources
[08:14] <bender_> it takes you to my forums
[08:15] <wsmith> othernoob, * does not recurse. in other words, *.wav matches files named <something>.wav in the *current* directory
[08:15] <Xenguy> bye
[08:15] <othernoob> wsmith: fascinating
[08:15] <topyli> othernoob: i just use the audio convert script for nautilus :)
[08:15] <bender_> wsmith did you get the X issue working?
[08:15] <wsmith> bender_, usrlabs.com => www.usrlabs.com => (missed one) => www.usrlabs.com/community/forum.php
[08:15] <topyli> othernoob: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/audio-convert/
[08:15] <bender_> wsmith yes.. thats my sight...
[08:15] <othernoob> wsmith: disregard the noob in my name. i'm quite aware of * not recursing
[08:15] <stretched_lobes> before the last line there was
[08:15] <othernoob> wsmith: i'm even quite aware of having to be in the correct directory
[08:16] <stretched_lobes> 7 DPT=68 LEN=314
[08:16] <stretched_lobes> ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: wakeup
[08:16] <othernoob> wsmith: my quiestion is why * NEVER works when there are numbers in the files
[08:16] <ninjafish> stretched, it is possible that your mp3 player is not Mass Storage Device compatible. if this is the case then it will not mount on linux
[08:16] <wsmith> bender_, yup (finally). however any damn games lock in 4:3 ratio, making my dual headed goodness moot
[08:16] <GoClick> I have a broken package and I don't know what to do
[08:16] <stretched_lobes> should i try one of the rio packages
[08:16] <GoClick> Synaptic won't fix it either
[08:16] <bender_> wsmith fuck that sucks
[08:16] <othernoob> topyli: thanks, but i don't use gnome, thus no nautilus ;)
[08:16] <stretched_lobes> or mabye natilus
[08:16] <MovieTrailerMan> Help! I am having problems with America's Army!
[08:16] <LinuxJones> GoClick, what are you trying to install ?
[08:16] <topyli> othernoob: ah :)
[08:17] <ninjafish> stretched wait a sec, what is the model of mp3 player you have again?
[08:17] <filip_> how can i add program in the menu ?
[08:17] <wsmith> othernoob, it does (http://warrenandrachel.com/othernoob.png)
[08:17] <stretched_lobes> irock 530
[08:17] <ninjafish> MOvieTrailerMan, so are a few countries
[08:17] <spola> ROFL
[08:18] <GoClick> I went to do my upgrades after installing Horay and it told me I had a broken package so I went and it's gnome extention for firefox but I can't remove it because it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and it won't repair it
[08:18] <barongas> filip_: Try dragging and dropping icons
[08:18] <MovieTrailerMan> I can't seem to get Amercia Army to work
[08:18] <MovieTrailerMan> er, American Army
[08:18] <GoClick> hoary rather
[08:18] <Mau> newb here
[08:18] <LinuxJones> GoClick, it's ok to remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <^thehatsrule^> americas army?
[08:18] <spola> i hate that game, it's like a commercial
[08:18] <other|pissed> wsmith: hui, it does work with ls. yay.. but it DOES NOT with lame and unrar for example
[08:18] <Mau> dunno what i did
[08:18] <rmflagg> I may never get my GDM settings question answered...
[08:18] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.12-7-amd64-xeon x86_64] 
[08:19] <GoClick> How will I reinstall it without a desktop?
[08:19] <Mau> how do i change my gdm ui languaga?
[08:19] <Mau> language?
[08:19] <Bjorn2> how do i open DVD's with VLc
[08:19] <snippy> someone uses Paragon's NTFS for linux ?
[08:19] <bender_> ugh i cant wait for my new laptoP!!!!
[08:19] <wsmith> other|pissed, I assure you it does. * is expanded by the shell, not the application
[08:19] <LinuxJones> GoClick, that's just a metapackage it will not uninstall your desktop
[08:19] <filip_> barongas: ok i will try that soon
[08:19] <Bjorn2> when i type dvd:///dev/hda it doesn't work
[08:19] <bender_> Bjorn2 ... set the prefs tard
[08:19] <Mau> HA!
[08:19] <Mau> HAHA!
[08:19] <Bjorn2> bender_, i just started :o?
[08:20] <wsmith> other|pissed, remember, *.wav *.mp3 doesn't expand to file.wav file.mp3
[08:20] <Mau> ?-)
[08:20] <Bjorn2> take it easy :<
[08:20] <snippy> I just bought Paragon NTFS for linux.. cant install it oO
[08:20] <stretched_lobes> movietrailer man  I followed install in wilki and it ran perfectly
[08:20] <bender_> Bjorn2 .... duh  try /media/dvd or /media/scsi0
[08:20] <bender_> find where your drive is located first
[08:20] <wsmith> other|pissed, if file.mp3 doesn't exist
[08:20] <GoClick> LinuxJones I removed it now what do I do to get it back?
[08:20] <other|pissed> wsmith: are you saying that lame -h *.wav works?
[08:20] <wsmith> other|pissed, yes
[08:20] <barongas> I take it setting up my  ati graphic card is as much a hassle as it is for debian?
[08:21] <LinuxJones> GoClick, you don't need to get it back
[08:21] <GoClick> Well what if
[08:21] <LinuxJones> GoClick, your system will be exactly the same as it is now
[08:21] <GoClick> Well what if I need to access gnomy stuff with firefox
[08:21] <HappyFool> Bjorn2: maybe just 'dvd://' ?
[08:21] <GoClick> That said, how do I install thunderbird?
[08:21] <stretched_lobes> here you go movietrailerman
[08:21] <other|pissed> wsmith: hui.. i do wonder why i am getting the "here's how you should use lame-syntax introduction + why don't you idiot try lame -? and so on" then?
[08:21] <stretched_lobes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AmericasArmy
[08:21] <Bjorn2> HappyFool, ill try it
[08:22] <MovieTrailerMan> stretched_lobes, eh?
[08:22] <MovieTrailerMan> ah
[08:22] <wsmith> other|pissed, -h means help
[08:22] <surfdue> how do i findout what is using my sound stuff
[08:22] <MovieTrailerMan> thanks
[08:22] <snippy> how can I remove a link?
[08:22] <stretched_lobes> yes 1 9/16th in
[08:22] <other|pissed> wsmith: you have never used lame have you?
[08:22] <wsmith> other|pissed, may you want lame --preset=high
[08:22] <LinuxJones> GoClick, apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[08:22] <other|pissed> wsmith: -h does not mean help
[08:22] <HappyFool> snippy: just 'rm' it
[08:22] <wsmith> other|pissed, sorry. was thinking something else. I'm a retard
[08:22] <Bjorn2> !backports
[08:22] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[08:22] <MovieTrailerMan> Will it show me how to use American Army?
[08:22] <Bjorn2> it isn't working btw HappyFool
[08:22] <Bjorn2> maybe its the dvd
[08:22] <hardw1re> just finished my upgrade to breezy
[08:22] <stretched_lobes> you mean a walkthrough
[08:22] <Bjorn2> or region code
[08:23] <hardw1re> (IDE Interfaces):[nVidia Corporation CK8S Parallel ATA Controller (v2.5) (rev 162)] 
[08:23] <GoClick> LinuxJones is there a GUI for that? I can do that from the CLI but I doubt my boss will
[08:23] <HappyFool> Bjorn2: what error message do you get ? (don't paste here)
[08:23] <wsmith> other|pissed, ahh. lame only takes *one* file to encode at a time
[08:23] <bender_> sigh
[08:23] <Bjorn2> HappyFool, nothing
[08:23] <Bjorn2> it spins
[08:23] <Bjorn2> en then closes itself
[08:23] <dalamar> synaptic will do it, just click search and type 'thunderbird'
[08:23] <MovieTrailerMan> I want to control American Army
[08:23] <GoClick> Oh I found it I think
[08:23] <wsmith> other|pissed, find ./ -iname '*.wav' -exec lame -h \{\} \;
[08:23] <HappyFool> Bjorn2: unfortunately i don't have vlc.. let me see how big a download it is
[08:24] <LinuxJones> GoClick, you can use synaptic to install it as well just search for mozilla-thunderbird then right click and hit install, then click the apply button
[08:24] <wsmith> other|pissed,  or for each in *.wav ; do lame -h $each ; done
[08:24] <stretched_lobes> http://www.americasarmy.com/support/gamemanual.php
[08:24] <Bjorn2> www.videolan.org
[08:24] <Bjorn2> HappyFool,
[08:24] <bender_> i cant wait to play AA again
[08:24] <HappyFool> Bjorn2: i'd rather install from synaptic, thanks ;)
[08:24] <bender_> its been like 1.5 years since i have played it
[08:25] <GoClick> LinuxJones ok, I also need to get samba on this machine with a nice gui too, what gui should I use?
[08:25] <other|pissed> wsmith: it won't work because there are numbers in the filename.wav and thus i'll get the syntax-introduction again
[08:25] <GrYpHoN> Anyone here havingissues getting the broadcom 4306 working through ndiswrapper in Ubuntu?
[08:25] <bender_> GrYpHoN is that a laptop chipset/
[08:25] <GrYpHoN> Yes it is.  Laptop is HP Pavilion zv5000
[08:25] <rmflagg> I have a question, folks.
[08:25] <LinuxJones> GoClick, oh boy I have never used samba since I have no computers running anything but Linux
[08:25] <bender_> heh
[08:25] <bender_> :)
[08:25] <stretched_lobes> ninja
[08:25] <bender_> i just ordered the zv6000
[08:26] <wsmith> !pastebbot
[08:26] <ubotu> wsmith: What?
[08:26] <ninjafish> stretched_lobes, sorry, I cannot find enough info on the irock to say how you could use it with linux, the software seems to be win or mac only
[08:26] <wsmith> !pastebot
[08:26] <ubotu> wsmith: What?
[08:26] <bender_> GrYpHoN give me one sec and ill get you the info :)
[08:26] <wsmith> !paste
[08:26] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:26] <GrYpHoN> Its a great laptop
[08:26] <GrYpHoN> pain to get the wireless working though
[08:26] <ninjafish> stretched_lobes, sorry, I cannot find enough info on the irock to say how you could use it with linux, the software seems to be win or mac only
[08:26] <dalamar> many people have issues with broadcom and ndiswrapper
[08:26] <lvraab> broadcom sucks
[08:26] <dalamar> regardless of distro
[08:26] <dalamar> yes it does ;)
[08:26] <wsmith> other|pissed, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1449
[08:26] <GrYpHoN> That figures.  lol
[08:27] <LinuxJones> GoClick, there is webmin but I am not sure if it works as advertised in Ubuntu
[08:27] <lvraab> lol
[08:27] <rmflagg> What setting do I have to change for GDM to ask if I want to change my default setting?
[08:27] <stretched_lobes> ok thanks I guess i really have to have windows after all too bad
[08:27] <ninjafish> I have managed to install my broardcom ndiswrapper with a HP zv5000 fine
[08:27] <GoClick> LinuxJones That's too bad, I'll have to try a few I guess, ok.
[08:27] <GoClick> No SWAT is HORRIBLE
[08:28] <GoClick> I'd rather edit the conf file by hand
[08:28] <GrYpHoN> The scan through the terminal finds the network etc, can't connect though.  Driving me CRAZY
[08:28] <ninjafish> I have missed a bit of the conversation so I will just catch up
[08:28] <bender_> GrYpHoN http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_Linux_64bit_on_HP_Pavillon_zv6000_series_notebook#Wireless_Connection
[08:28] <bender_> about 3/4 the way down
[08:28] <barongas> Does Gtk install in some weird directory for ubuntu? Trying to compile a program and it can't find it
[08:28] <stretched_lobes> my second uestion how do i make k3b appear in the gnome panel
[08:28] <surfdue> i think my sound drivers are messed up
[08:28] <GrYpHoN> Thanks bender!
[08:28] <surfdue> when someone hears me on my sip phone
[08:28] <surfdue> it is CRAPPY
[08:28] <stretched_lobes> i can start it from a shell
[08:29] <bender_> GrYpHoN it IS for the gentoo install.. but theres nothing diff about ndis wrapper though
[08:29] <ninjafish> stretched lobes, I traded my old mp3 player for an iriver because it could not be used in linux
[08:29] <jbull> barongas:  what's the program looking for?
[08:30] <dalamar> either that or buy a cheap ipod, they wer ine aswll
[08:30] <stretched_lobes> i tried smeg but k3b does not show
[08:30] <Spudchat> does an xclef run in linux?
[08:30] <stretched_lobes> yes i was looking at the new rio
[08:30] <ninjafish> for an irock equivilent for linux look at the creative Muvos they mount as USB drives on the gnome desktop
[08:30] <wsmith> battle for wesnoth is my new favorite game for not being retarded and assuming 4:3 ratio
[08:30] <barongas> jbull checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[08:30] <stretched_lobes> cool thanks
[08:31] <ninjafish> stretched lobes, do you have a laptop?
[08:31] <ghostdog> I am having problems with usb and firewire storage, for some reason it works randomly
[08:31] <bender_> GrYpHoN work for ya?
[08:31] <stretched_lobes> no buying one soon on ebay
[08:31] <CyberMad> when i install from aptitude and search for new package tightvnc-server
[08:31] <jbull> barongas:  you need the gtk+ dev package installed--do you have it?
[08:31] <qtpi> can anyone tell me what this means?: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1450
[08:31] <GrYpHoN> Duel boot.  Ill have to boot in to ubuntu to find out
[08:31] <stretched_lobes> found some that work with ubuntu
[08:31] <CyberMad> there is letter c in front of tightvnc-server package and i press + but didn't effect anything
[08:31] <CyberMad> i try install from debian package and there is an error too
[08:31] <barongas> jbull: Yeah, noticed :)
[08:31] <barongas> jbull: Thanks though
[08:31] <other|pissed> wsmith: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1451
[08:32] <ghostdog> If I boot with the memory stick it works
[08:32] <stretched_lobes> i have a real old sattelite
[08:32] <CyberMad> yudi@earth:~/Backup$ vncserver
[08:32] <CyberMad> Couldn't start Xvnc; trying default font path.
[08:32] <CyberMad> Please set correct fontPath in the vncserver script.
[08:32] <ninjafish> stretched lobes, reason I ask is that I sometimes take my linux laptop to the PC store when buying some accesories to see if they work on linux
[08:32] <bender_> qtpi means the source file or sourceslist file has a bad line in it at line 28 or whatever
[08:32] <CyberMad> please help me
[08:32] <ghostdog> if not, then nothing happens unless I restart hotplug
[08:32] <stretched_lobes> no cd drive only uses backpack cd cannot find one to support it
[08:32] <qtpi> line 28 says deb http://jrfonseca.dyndns.org/debian/ .
[08:33] <makhan> if someone could help me, that'd be great, my sound doesn't work.
[08:33] <stretched_lobes> yes that sounds good
[08:33] <dalamar> theres good info on the web about linux compatible mp3 players as well
[08:33] <wsmith> other|pissed, it's not the numerals, it's the spaces
[08:33] <stizoner> something has gone totally wrong, media:/ shows empty now, none of my partitions are showing, just blank
[08:33] <wsmith> other|pissed, for each in *.wav ; do lame -h "$each" ; done
[08:34] <Rebs> the 5.04 starer guide is up to date right?
[08:34] <makhan> no, when I go to a webpage that has videos, I cannot hear anything.
[08:34] <ninjafish> grython, if you have issues still I am happy to help as I have been though the same problems
[08:34] <makhan> help?
[08:34] <makhan> anyone?
[08:34] <wsmith> makhan, ps ax | grep esd
[08:34] <snippy> how can I remove a directory?
[08:34] <snippy> or rename?
[08:34] <wsmith> makhan, get anything?
[08:34] <makhan> wsmith, do I do that in terminal?
[08:34] <wsmith> snippy, mv <dir>
[08:34] <qtpi> How would I fix a sources.list file; I overwrote a few lines that were in there and this seems to be causing a problem when i try installing a codec
[08:34] <wsmith> snippy, rm -r <dir>
[08:35] <wsmith> makhan, yes
[08:35] <webby> hi
[08:35] <wsmith> qtpi, did you get the sources.list from ubuntuguide.org
[08:35] <Ng> qtpi: remvoe the broken ones and re-add them
[08:35] <qtpi> wsmith: i got it from an ubuntu forum
[08:35] <jbull> anyone running breezy have issues with fonts in firefox?
[08:36] <mdz> leonel: you need to modify the apt configuration to point to breezy, and then dist-upgrade.  I believe there's a howto in the wiki somewhere
[08:36] <wsmith> qtpi, If you are installing basic stuff from the universe, multiverse and backports, just grab a new copy from ubuntuguide.org
[08:36] <stizoner> media:/ shows empty now, none of my partitions are showing, just blank, i cant get my files ! /me runs around scared
[08:36] <leonel> I was asking if there's any special thing to keep in mind
[08:36] <leonel> mdz, thanks
[08:36] <wsmith> makhan, any luck?
[08:37] <stretched_lobes> thanks a lot for the help
[08:37] <makhan> wsmith, what i got from that was : 6736 ?     S    0:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeebs
[08:37] <makhan> that's the first line, anyways.
[08:37] <qtpi> wsmith: where exactly on that site is the file
[08:37] <qtpi> ahh i found it
[08:37] <HappyFool> nobeeps, presumaby -- unless it's anti-bbc ;)
[08:37] <Jhair> shouldn't the realplayer installer be in multiverse at least?
[08:37] <makhan> then another: 7113 pts/0       S+       0:00 grep esd
[08:37] <makhan> that's it.
[08:37] <wsmith> makhan, good. now, your media player is most likely using oss to try to get to the sound card (which esd has stolen)
[08:38] <letschatt> hi everyone
[08:38] <wsmith> makhan, which plugin are you using to view movies mplayer?
[08:38] <Ng> Jhair: I think there is one, but it's for an old version of realplayer
[08:38] <letschatt> my ubuntu firefox loads really fast but the response of the application on opening new tabs, scrolling and page loading (back, forward) is SH*T. will anyone mind helping?
[08:38] <makhan> oh, it's not that, I still need to DL a plugin. I'm talking about regular files on the net, such as Homestarrunner.
[08:39] <wsmith> makhan, ah
[08:39] <letschatt> i need someone 's help in cutting the pork on my file system. my windows installation is about 1.8 gigs. The linux is 1.4 that's huge
[08:39] <wsmith> anyone know if ubuntu turns on alsa dmix by default?
[08:39] <ninjafish> letschatt, thats tiny
[08:39] <Ng> letschatt: run synaptic, ask it to show you packages with installed status, then remove the ones you don't want, if any
[08:40] <Jhair> Ng, yes I added multiverse to my apt sources (tried with different mirrors) and seems realplayer isn't there anymore...
[08:40] <letschatt> Ng.. did a lot of that. i think 1.4 gigs on linux is massive. In 2003 i was running woody with kde 2.2 on only 750 megs
[08:40] <stizoner> media:/      shows empty now, none of my partitions are showing, no floppy, no cd, nothing just blank, i cant get my files
[08:40] <letschatt> now i have gnome on 5.04 hoary. KDE blows goats now it's nothing but bloatware
[08:41] <Ng> Jhair: I see a package called realplayer in multiverse here
[08:41] <Jhair> ubuntu has a page to search for package though and AFAIK realplay is still listed there
[08:41] <letschatt> i wouldn't mind getting some help with my firefox app response times
[08:41] <darkheart> letschatt Some might say gnome is bloated too =)
[08:41] <tristanmike> good-day all
[08:41] <letschatt> haha well in university while i was doing my CS degree i used ion.. best ever!
[08:41] <martin-> Need some help: got an ATI all in wonder with TV functionality. i downloaded tvtime but now i need to choose the device somehow. Anyone knows what to do?
[08:41] <Ng> letschatt: meh, it's only 1.4gb and you can cut it down to way less than that if you can be arsed, but what do you gain? ;)
[08:41] <Ex-Cyber> I'm having trouble building a mips-elf targeted binutils 2.9.1... configure goes okay but when I run make I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1452 ... what's going on here?
[08:42] <letschatt> Ng i think we can lay down the linux (faster) myth to waste now. why does linux boot slower, and loads apps slower with slower response times
[08:42] <stizoner> hiyah
[08:42] <makhan> wsmith, any other advice you could give me?
[08:42] <ninjafish> is the guy who was having broadcom troubles still here??
[08:42] <Jhair> Ng, are you using hoary? could you please show me the server you are using on your sources.list?
[08:42] <wsmith> makhan, one sec...
[08:42] <letschatt> i type ctrl ++ and firefox took 3 seconds to work its way
[08:42] <HappyFool> stizoner: i don't have a 'media:/' -- i do have a 'computer:///' though (i presume this is in nautilus)
[08:42] <Ng> letschatt: I don't care for myths, I use Linux because it's better
[08:42] <makhan> ok.
[08:42] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:42] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:42] <letschatt> ninjafish i was the guy with broadcom trouble
[08:42] <letschatt> but i fixed em now
[08:42] <HappyFool> Jhair: the second like ubotu posted has an examples sources.list
[08:43] <Ng> Jhair: yup, hoary. my sources.list is www.pointlessrubbish.net/sources.list
[08:43] <Rebs> how come flashplayer isn't found, tryna follow the starter guide , unless its out of date?
[08:43] <ninjafish> did you chabge your nick?
[08:43] <letschatt> linux is better because of its immense flexibility and its free but it lays waste to older machines like mine
[08:43] <darkheart> Rebs You might need some repositories added.
[08:43] <dalamar> you probably dont have the repo that flash is in
[08:43] <Rebs> im using the sample sources list from the guide
[08:43] <GoClick> Is there a way to move all of my Thunderbird 1.0.6 settings from my windows machine to my Linux machine?
[08:43] <HappyFool> Rebs: you can read the restricted-formats page on the wiki for installing flash (see ubotu below)
[08:43] <letschatt> windows 2000 runs faster on my computer and I KNOW FOR SURE i can get this sucker to run faster than windows i am just no an expert yet
[08:43] <HappyFool> !restricted
[08:43] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:44] <letschatt> Goclick there is
[08:44] <Ng> letschatt: you can't compare a gnome release from 4 months ago with windows *2000*
[08:44] <Ng> letschatt: use xfce
[08:44] <stizoner> click system icon, select storage media, and its empty, i cant get 2 any my partitions and get my files, nothing is listed in the window HappyFool
[08:44] <leonel> dist-upgrade in progress...
[08:44] <Ng> anyway, I'm outta here
[08:44] <Jhair> Ng, thanks
[08:44] <letschatt> look in your profile folder.. move all of your profile files to a drive letter and change the path names
[08:44] <sly> wanting some help setting up net sharing on good ol ubuntu
[08:44] <HappyFool> stizoner: 'system icon' ? where's that?
[08:45] <ninjafish> linux is better because there are less dependancies (view the processes running on XP to prove this).
[08:45] <letschatt> Ng: it's not just gnome buddy linux boots a lot slower too that hogplug BS takes 8-10 seconds to work
[08:45] <GoClick> letschatt is it aq pain in the bum?
[08:45] <thesamet> does anyone else have strange window blinks in breezy?
[08:45] <letschatt> aq?
[08:45] <sly> any takers :) ? ...... im connected to net via 1 port router.................. got another pc connected to me via eth1 . firestarter installed
[08:45] <sly> as far as ive got :)
[08:45] <letschatt> i've used bum to turn off weird and silly daemons
[08:45] <darkheart> sly Why not connect both computers to the router?
[08:45] <CyberMad> do you know where to find free proxy (8080) ?
[08:46] <wsmith> makhan, Ok. the crux of the matter is that flash needs exclusive access to your sound card. esd already has exclusive access. neither like sharing
[08:46] <makhan> ok, so how do I have both?
[08:46] <sly> * sly any takers :) ? ...... im connected to net via 1 port router * no hub and the router is downstairs with not enough cable when both pc's are in the loft
[08:46] <makhan> is it possible?
[08:46] <martin-> i have 2 /dev/video? devices, how can i see whichone is what?
[08:46] <surfdue> um
[08:46] <surfdue> linphone is outdated
[08:46] <surfdue> on your apt-get
[08:46] <surfdue> what should i do?
[08:47] <letschatt> so who here is running on a machine similar to mine (ATHLON 600 K7, 256MB, 60 + 17 GB, 802.11G, MATROX G450 32MB)
[08:47] <JoRock> can anyone recommend a good full site for my apt list
[08:47] <JoRock> ?
[08:47] <bender_> sly what is the problem?
[08:47] <GoClick> letschatt how do I move my settings, especially account settings
[08:47] <Radamanthys> I need to mount my optical drives (cd and cd-rw)
[08:47] <letschatt> JOROCK use synaptic to add sources
[08:47] <wsmith> makhan, either you can turn off esd (you'll lose ubuntu gnome sounds) and restart mozilla, or I can go into an extremely involved process of getting alsa dmix working
[08:47] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:47] <surfdue> linphone is outdated
[08:47] <bender_> JoRock an awsome site is google.com
[08:47] <surfdue> what do i do
[08:47] <ninjafish> letschatt, you have a zv5000 yes? have you got the scrollbar on the touchpad working?
[08:47] <JoRock> lol thanks bender_
[08:47] <HappyFool> JoRock: the recond link ubotu posts has a complete /etc/apt/sources.list; or you can read the first one for more information
[08:48] <makhan> right, thanks.
[08:48] <stizoner> ok whatever weird powers that fixed that... thanks, i was just sitting here all sudden here my floppy drive access and my cdrom spin and BAM my paritions show up :D
[08:48] <makhan> what's a easy way of turning off esd?
[08:48] <letschatt> no, no zv5000
[08:48] <bender_> UGH!!!!
[08:48] <letschatt> i am on a desktop
[08:48] <Radamanthys> Help me
[08:48] <bender_> i cant wait to get my HP ZV6000!!!
[08:48] <Ex-Cyber> makhan: at prompt: killall esd
[08:48] <letschatt> put in a disk radamanthys
[08:48] <makhan> and, after that, will DVD movies be able to play sound, now that esd is dead?
[08:48] <letschatt> then try /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd
[08:48] <dalamar> thats what they consider stable in the repo, if you want the newest linphone out you'll have to look for a .deb on the web and install it yourself
[08:48] <surfdue> !!!bug!!!report!!! lin phone version is outdated.
[08:48] <ubotu> that's too long, surfdue
[08:48] <surfdue> by 2 years
[08:49] <ninjafish> letschatt, ok.  I am getting confused now. there was someone with a zv5000 earlier nm
[08:49] <John> Hello, I have a problem with wirelles card in my laptop. The drivers is installed but I don't recieve or send anything
[08:49] <bender_> why dont you just "dmesg | more" and seach where it initialized and placed the damn drive
[08:49] <Ex-Cyber> makhan: generally as long as some ill-behaved app such as flash player is hogging your soundcard nothing else will play sound
[08:49] <letschatt> but you could help me with something else :)
[08:49] <Radamanthys> letschatt,  I can't configure this devices
[08:49] <letschatt> i need a good website to optimize ubuntu so it runs on par with windows atleast
[08:49] <makhan> ok.
[08:49] <ohay> does someone know how to configure services on ubuntu?
[08:49] <makhan> hm.
[08:49] <bender_> ohhhh hey!!!
[08:49] <Grat> ohay what services?
[08:49] <bender_> woohoo im get to eat today!!!
[08:50] <Revelation> ;P
[08:50] <bender_> *i
[08:50] <ohay> I mean graphically (like for dummies)
[08:50] <bender_> this prison sucks
[08:50] <wsmith> makhan, I believe the problem stems from a holdover from debian. Dunno why everything hasn't been switched to use alsa or the aoss wrapper by default.
[08:50] <HappyFool> !bum
[08:50] <ubotu> bum is, like, a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:50] <stizoner> im a dummie so i dont know
[08:50] <Revelation> +bender_ agreed
[08:50] <ninjafish> letschatt, sorry I do not know of such a website
[08:50] <Revelation> :p
[08:50] <bender_> we only get basic 256k down... and a crap rental laptop.
[08:50] <HappyFool> ohay: bum might be what you want (see ubotu's post above)
[08:50] <Revelation> +why all talking like this ? ;>
[08:50] <juanej> is there anyway to reconfigure ubuntu?
[08:50] <GoClick> letschatt how can I move my Thunderbird 1.0.6 settings and accounts from my Windows machine to my Ubuntu machine?
[08:51] <Grat> ohay: what services?
[08:51] <bender_> Revelation you in prison also?
[08:51] <Webby`> Hi, I'm having trouble starting up crossover. It just hangs and never starts up
[08:51] <juanej> Im getting a lot of errors with synaptic
[08:51] <ninjafish> juanej, /etc
[08:51] <Webby`> I'm using Breezy
[08:51] <Revelation> -bender_: naah was released for some days ago ;)
[08:51] <Webby`> Could that be the problem?
[08:51] <letschatt> :( ubuntu is slower than win 2000 what a shame i still can't make the switch
[08:51] <ohay> I mean, somewhere I can click on a checkbox for every service. Like a runlevel editor
[08:51] <bender_> Revelation what were you in for
[08:51] <ohay> Grat: I want to run sshd
[08:51] <Revelation> -bender_: some hacking :\ :p
[08:51] <juanej> maybe deleting my account and creating a new one?
[08:52] <bender_> Revelation my ass
[08:52] <HappyFool> juanej: what errors?
[08:52] <ninjafish> juanej what errors?
[08:52] <juanej> Uhmm
[08:52] <Revelation> -bender_: actually its real :p
[08:52] <Webby`> Can anyone see me????
[08:52] <wsmith> Webby`, no
[08:52] <Paganini> Nope.
[08:52] <osfameron> me neither
[08:52] <Paganini> You're invisible.
[08:52] <Paganini> ;p
[08:52] <Webby`> ok
[08:52] <Webby`> lol
[08:52] <juanej> broken packages
[08:52] <ninjafish> Webby I can hear you though
[08:52] <Revelation> -;P
[08:53] <wsmith> ohay, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:53] <juanej> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[08:53] <wsmith> ohay, but I've never used the gui thingy
[08:53] <juanej> i want to start over
[08:53] <bender_> what did you get caught doing hacking wise Revelation
[08:53] <wsmith> Webby`, dunno if anyone here has that combination (breezy + crossover)
[08:53] <HappyFool> juanej: hmm. that doesn't sound good
[08:53] <ohay> wsmith: the thing is that I'm kinda lazy, :P
[08:53] <juanej> HappyFool: how do i start over?
[08:54] <Webby`> So I should use Hoary?
[08:54] <juanej> without reinstalling
[08:54] <Cletus> hey, i just installed ubuntu and it's telling me that i need to insert the install cd when i try to install some packages via aptitude
[08:54] <wsmith> ohay, on startup, sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults
[08:54] <wsmith> s/on/for/
[08:54] <Cletus> the cd isn't in my apt sources, why is it asking this?
[08:54] <ohay> so, is there a graphical runlevel editor or something?
[08:54] <bender_> Revelation your in germany.. they dont do that
[08:54] <wsmith> Cletus, you probably need to apt-get update
[08:54] <Cletus> i've done that wsmith
[08:54] <dalamar> yeah the using the install cd bit i dont like at all, it only asks for it on some programs
[08:54] <wsmith> ohay, I think ubuntuguide.org has something about that...
[08:55] <juanej> so?
[08:55] <Cletus> i've been using debian for a few years now and i've never had anything like this happen
[08:55] <ninjafish> Cletus, look at the repositories list in sypnatic
[08:55] <ninjafish> is it there
[08:55] <HappyFool> juanej: maybe you can try 'sudo apt-get clean' at the command line
[08:55] <samu> yeah, that happened to me a few times as well
[08:55] <HappyFool> juanej: i'm afraid i'm not familiar with that error
[08:55] <ohay> oh I forgot to say I'm using the default gnome and everything installation, not really tweaked or anything
[08:55] <Node> Hey - I just tried the Ubuntu "breezy" live CD and it hung when starting the hotplug subsystem.  Anybody else here using a Shuttle ST20G5 experience this ?
[08:55] <Cletus> it's in the repositories in synaptic, thanks ninjafish
[08:55] <HappyFool> ohay: did you see the link to bum ubotu posted? It sounds like that is what you want
[08:55] <HappyFool> !bum
[08:55] <ubotu> [bum]  a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:56] <Cletus> i don't use synaptic so i would have never checked there
[08:56] <juanej> what about reconfiguring ubuntu to the default config
[08:56] <oonoon> Hi everybody ; Ive just switched on my computer and when i want to see a preview of a screensaver, it is extremely slow ; how can i find the thing that makes my computer so busy even though nothing has yet been done
[08:56] <ohay> ubotu: is this already installed with ubuntu?
[08:56] <ubotu> ohay: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:56] <dalamar> its probably a GL screensaver and you dont have drivers installed for it
[08:56] <HappyFool> ohay: ubotu is a bot; and the answer is no. Go to the URL
[08:56] <juanej> damn, im gonna delete my account and create a new one
[08:56] <wsmith> oonoon, first, do Applications->System Tools->System Monitor
[08:57] <bender_> Revelation ....? still there :)
[08:57] <wsmith> ohay, http://ubuntuguide.org/#permanentlydisableenableboot-upservices
[08:57] <oonoon> wsmith, yeah , did ti
[08:57] <wsmith> mm. got beat to that one
[08:57] <ohay> wsmith: ok I'll take a look. I forgot that I had downloaded the entire guide, hehe
[08:57] <wsmith> oonoon, anything hogging cpu?
[08:57] <ninjafish> juanej that will not work
[08:57] <juanej> so what can i do?
[08:58] <juanej> i really dont want to reinstall
[08:58] <HappyFool> juanej: did you try 'apt-get clean' ? you could also move the contents /var/cache/apt
[08:58] <juanej> doesnt work
[08:58] <ninjafish> I am sorry I am not being helpfull but if there is a problem with any application it will cause problems for all users
[08:58] <ninjafish> usually
[08:58] <bender_> Revelation :) give me an msg back sometime :)
[08:59] <oonoon> wmith, that's weird, i've got some activity (max 30% CPU) ; when i start this screensaver preview it jumps to 100% and goes slow
[08:59] <juanej> i think im gonna have to reinstall :S
[08:59] <Benix> hi
[08:59] <oonoon> wsmith, that's weird, i've got some activity (max 30% CPU) ; when i start this screensaver preview it jumps to 100% and goes slow
[08:59] <wsmith> oonoon, you don't have gl acceleration enabled.
[08:59] <bender_> oonoon thats cuz you dont have gl accell on
[08:59] <dalamar> is it a gl screensaver? and do you have 3d drivers installed?
[08:59] <bender_> jeez
[08:59] <bender_> newbs
[08:59] <wsmith> oonoon, pop open a terminal and type glxinfo
[08:59] <GoClick> DNS on my ubuntu system seem messed up it takes maybe 20 seconds to resolve any host
[08:59] <GoClick> Some apps like xChat don't seem to be able to do it at all
[08:59] <wsmith> bender_, you *are* in the noob channel
[09:00] <GoClick> And then randomly they will
[09:00] <ninjafish> juanej try a simple apt-get -update
[09:00] <bender_> wsmith i know i was just joking :)
[09:00] <oonoon> wsmith : yeah, done, but there's much stuff 'direct rendering : no' , thats what you expected ?
[09:00] <stizoner> yeah GoClick i noticed that and set it manually since i have a router that i allways connect same ip
[09:00] <wsmith> bender_, me too :)
[09:00] <bender_> this is the only server i can get on for some reason
[09:00] <wsmith> oonoon, yes
[09:00] <ninjafish> then try to remove all repositories and add them again
[09:00] <oonoon> wsmith : so, that's ok ?
[09:00] <ninjafish> and apt-get -update again
[09:00] <wsmith> oonoon, no, you don't have accelerated X. how familiar are you at mucking around in xorg.conf?
[09:01] <ninjafish> (sorry apt-get -update after removing all reps)
[09:01] <llpamies> Somebody that are using breezy can tell me if totem-xine depends of libcairo1 ?
[09:01] <juanej> damn, im gonna reinstall, thx anyway
[09:02] <thechitowncubss> is firefox going to start faster on breezy?
[09:02] <dubnium> question, besides real player? which apps can play .ra/.ram?
[09:02] <wsmith> thechitowncubss, stupid cubs. anyways are you referring to a prelink or the whole ipv6 thing?
[09:02] <oonoon> wsmith : i've got some experience, spend some weeks to try to install my nvidia card (which, at the end, doesn't work yet :-))
[09:02] <wsmith> dubnium, helix player
[09:02] <thechitowncubss> wsmith, actually i'm referring to firefox's slow startup compared to windows
[09:03] <HappyFool> oonoon: the instructions on the wiki don't work for you?
[09:03] <wsmith> oonoon, you probably need the nvidia binary driver. check ubuntuguide.org
[09:03] <HappyFool> !nvidia
[09:03] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[09:03] <thechitowncubss> !nvidia
[09:03] <thechitowncubss> hey
[09:03] <kyncani> llpamies: you can see totem-xine dependencies here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:03] <dubnium> wsmith, i thought helix could not stream?
[09:03] <wsmith> !cubs
[09:03] <ubotu> No idea, wsmith
[09:03] <wsmith> dubnium, I dunno. I have no experience
[09:04] <oonoon> HappyFool, wsmith : tried with ubuntu package, and with the drivers on nvidia website, nothing worked, got the same blank screen and impossible to quit X, got the eternal blank screen
[09:04] <thechitowncubss> !cubs are the best team in the world
[09:04] <ubotu> okay, thechitowncubss
[09:04] <thechitowncubss> !cubs
[09:04] <ubotu> cubs are the best team in the world
[09:04] <wsmith> !sox rule
[09:04] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, wsmith
[09:04] <wsmith> !sox
[09:04] <ubotu> wsmith: I haven't a clue
[09:04] <wsmith> stupid bot
[09:04] <thechitowncubss> thats what i thought
[09:04] <HappyFool> oonoon: hmm
[09:04] <HappyFool> oonoon: you've looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages?
[09:04] <wsmith> thechitowncubss, obviously in chicago. which part?
[09:04] <llpamies> kyncani: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/gnome/totem-xine  What happen ??  Why libcairo is not avaiable ?? I has my system broken !
[09:05] <thechitowncubss> NW suburbs
[09:05] <GoClick2> test
[09:05] <wsmith> oonoon, my suggestion, live with it unless you have all weekend free to muck with it.
[09:05] <oonoon> HappyFool : tried, but i dont understand much in this area ; got to go, be back in2 hours
[09:05] <oonoon> wsmith : i came to the same conclusion :-)
[09:06] <thechitowncubss> wsmith, are you from chitown?
[09:06] <wsmith> thechitowncubss, sw burbs
[09:06] <thechitowncubss> figures
[09:06] <wsmith> lol
[09:06] <Bjorn`Food> is cedega free
[09:06] <Bjorn`Food> ?
[09:07] <wsmith> Bjorn`Food, kinda. once you pay for it, it is
[09:07] <kyncani> llpamies: what do you mean your system is broken ? if a package (like totem-xine) has unavailable dependencies (like libcairo1), then this package is simply not installed/upgraded, and nothing is broken
[09:07] <wsmith> Bjorn`Food, but seriously, they keep a *really* old version free
[09:07] <Bjorn`Food> this sucks =/
[09:07] <wsmith> Bjorn`Food, it's only $15!
[09:07] <Bjorn`Food> Well
[09:07] <Webby`> lol
[09:07] <dalamar> use wine
[09:07] <Bjorn`Food> i'm only 16 lol
[09:07] <Ex-Cyber> Bjorn`Food: yes and no... there is a "free" CVS repo that Transgaming has threatened to shut down if too many people use it, but generally you need to subscribe
[09:07] <wsmith> Bjorn`Food, you have a mom, no?
[09:07] <Bjorn`Food> :)
[09:07] <maximaus> best place to grab a Ubuntu torrent?
[09:08] <dalamar> mow some lawns ;)
[09:08] <wsmith> rofl
[09:08] <tristanmike> Does anyone know "cdcat"?
[09:08] <Bjorn`Food> i can use the debian builds on ubuntu too ?
[09:08] <letschatt> would anyone help me with a very slow firefox response time on ubuntu?
[09:08] <wsmith> man, I *really* have to get some work done today. Hate to think I'm getting paid to IRC all day
[09:09] <letschatt> Bjorn`Food, don't that's what i've heard
[09:09] <wsmith> letschatt, how so?
[09:09] <cheleb> maximaus: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
[09:09] <wsmith> letschatt, startup or in use?
[09:09] <dalamar> they work
[09:09] <Bjorn`Food> i'll try wine
[09:09] <dalamar> Bjorn`Food, what are you trying to run?
[09:10] <maximaus> cheleb: thanks :thumbsup:
[09:10] <letschatt> wsmith, it starts faster than in windows
[09:10] <alxarch> hi i need some help with setting up my soundcard (dpkg produces an error)
[09:10] <letschatt> wsmith, i run a 5.5 year old computer on which win 2k blazes in app response time.. but not on ubuntu
[09:11] <kcidx> what deb package has glxgears and glxinfo
[09:11] <wsmith> letschatt, win2k has that preloader guy running all the time
[09:11] <letschatt> wsmith, firefox takes 4-5 seconds to load tabs and sometimes 3-5 seconds for ctrl+ + to return
[09:11] <letschatt> but app response times are horrible in ubuntu once they're up
[09:11] <alxarch> hi i need some help with setting up my soundcard (dpkg produces an error) anybody?
[09:12] <Ex-Cyber> kcidx: xbase-clients
[09:12] <letschatt> what kinda card alxarch
[09:12] <letschatt> ?
[09:13] <alxarch> intel hda
[09:13] <Ex-Cyber> kcidx: for future reference: dpkg -S filename
[09:13] <alxarch> on 915g chipset
[09:13] <letschatt> 2 years ago i wasted days and nights to get my sound card to produce bass and trbl controls which i only got through alsa
[09:13] <letschatt> alxarch it's an exercise in research. you'll have to go to alsa's website and try many different things.
[09:14] <kcidx> ex, thanks
[09:14] <kcidx> ex-cy, thanks
[09:14] <kcidx> oo name completion not working
[09:14] <wsmith> letschatt,  cheap hack to make firefox start faster: 1. sudo apt-get install prelink 2.  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox:/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib sudo prelink ./firefox-bin
[09:14] <wsmith> in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[09:14] <wsmith> but I dunno if it'll help much
[09:15] <letschatt> wsmith, it's not the startup it never was. but firefox is about 1/3 to 1/5 the speed in response time compared to win2k
[09:15] <letschatt> i am thinking about nice on firefox
[09:16] <letschatt> a friend installed ubuntu on his laptop and he said movies were playing frame by frame
[09:16] <wsmith> letschatt, also go to about:config and enable disableIPv6
[09:16] <Jhair> letschatt, maybe ha has an slow laptop
[09:16] <Jhair> s/ha/he
[09:16] <Ex-Cyber> letschatt: the last time I had a problem like that it was actually due to my video chip overheating... if you're running dual-boot 2K and nothing happens in 2K though that's probably not it
[09:16] <letschatt> Jhair, no in windows things run fine and fast
[09:17] <qtpi> I'm having problems with my sound. I just managed to get my sound card to work properly with ubuntu but cannot change the volume of any mp3 that I play.  I tried to change it in mplayer and in Volume Control, but the volume stays at the same level. Any ideas on what's causing this?
[09:17] <Ex-Cyber> letschatt: how much RAM do you have?
[09:17] <wsmith> qtpi, did you increase the volume of the dsp channel?
[09:17] <Spudchat> how do i make a balnk txt document and save it?
[09:17] <letschatt> Ex-Cyber, i have a fan on my matrox g450 on top of the cpu.. an athlon cpu and fast graphics card requires a hovercraft fan damnit
[09:17] <Spudchat> blank*
[09:17] <juanej> its me again, when i am partitioning with the ubuntu tool on the installer there are 3 partitions
[09:18] <juanej> how do i change hda number?
[09:18] <letschatt> 256 but windows' app response times are far far better.. i mean amsn just gives up :)
[09:18] <wsmith> Spudchat, Applications->Accessories->Text Editor
[09:18] <hardw1re> what issue do i have to give to install the gnome desktop environment?
[09:18] <Ex-Cyber> my memory could be fuzzy but I think gnome sucks down a heck of a lot more RAM than 2K explorer.exe, heh
[09:18] <wsmith> Spudchat, the File->Save
[09:18] <qtpi> wsmith: how would i do that
[09:18] <Spudchat> naw im workin on my friends debian system
[09:18] <Spudchat> and everytime i try to save a config i made it says no such file
[09:18] <letschatt> lol yeah i believe so but even in ion (the most lightweight wm) firefox is cursed
[09:18] <hardw1re> !gnome
[09:18] <ubotu> somebody said gnome was an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[09:18] <wsmith> qtpi, right-click on the volume control in your systray and go to open volume control
[09:19] <Rebs> ./configure: line 2200: g++: command not found
[09:19] <Rebs> any clue?
[09:19] <Xenguy> Spudchat: touch <filename>
[09:19] <spola> pfft, kde>gnome
[09:19] <wsmith> Spudchat, are you typing in a full path? if the directory doesn't exist you'll get that
[09:19] <qtpi> wsmith: there is no dsp channel listed there
[09:19] <wsmith> Rebs apt-get install build-essential
[09:19] <Ex-Cyber> pfft, rio > kde
[09:19] <Jhair> Rebs, install the command which has not been found
[09:19] <xav_> hi... i'm using breezy for a while now and i'm having troubles with my ipod
[09:19] <wsmith> qtpi, pcm, sorry
[09:19] <spola> :)
[09:20] <Rebs> thanks wsmith and Jhair
[09:20] <letschatt> i hated gnome and stuck with kde but the new kde is not only a pig it's a pig with a load of lipstick and mascara on it. you can't work with it. it's huge and i hate xp or mac osx why would i want the two together?
[09:20] <xav_> everything works fine except playing from ipod in rhythmbox
[09:20] <Spudchat> im workin in my home and just wanna save a file
[09:20] <qtpi> wsmith: increasing/decreasing pcm has no effect on volume
[09:20] <xav_> it seems there are errors in handling for URI
[09:20] <wsmith> qtpi, any other devices in File->Change Device ?
[09:20] <xav_> after some research i think this might come from dbus
[09:21] <qtpi> yes
[09:21] <xav_> which should i be using dbus or dbus-1
[09:21] <qtpi> i have it set on the right device
[09:21] <xav_> ??
[09:21] <wsmith> qtpi, repeat for each
[09:21] <Spudchat> nevermind i got it
[09:21] <qtpi> i just tried on all devices, no effect
[09:21] <wsmith> qtpi, none whatsoever?
[09:21] <ilba7r> !info breezy
[09:22] <qtpi> no effect on volume at all
[09:22] <spola> Ex-Cyber, whats rio? couldn't find anything relevant on freshmeat
[09:22] <ilba7r> !breezy
[09:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[09:22] <hardw1re> anyone know how i can install the gnome desktop / gnome app's on breezy?
[09:22] <jack|ass> anyone seen a problem when going from hoary->breezy where packages start demanding libcairo1 >= 0.3.0, which doesn't seem to exist in breezy?
[09:22] <wsmith> qtpi, you're beyond me, now I'd try alsamixer and aumix
[09:22] <Rebs> whats Libz? can't find it in synaptic
[09:23] <wsmith> Rebs, the only package that doesn't follow debian naming guidelines zlib1g
[09:23] <qtpi> already tried alsamixer, will try aumix
[09:24] <qtpi> what's aumix?
[09:24] <Radamanthys> Can I play Counter in Ubuntu?
[09:24] <Rebs> bleh now it says it can't find x development
[09:24] <wsmith> jack|ass, apt-get install libcairo2 ?
[09:25] <hardw1re> Radamanthys: counter strike?
[09:25] <Ex-Cyber> spola: it's the window system from Plan 9 4th edition... you can read that comment as having a </sarcasm> if you like ;)
[09:25] <jack|ass> wsmith: yeah, but the packages are wanting libcairo1 specifically.
[09:25] <wsmith> Rebs, apt-get install x-window-system-dev
[09:25] <hardw1re> Radamanthys: yes you can run counter-strike/source, you'll need to go see this site: www.transgaming.com
[09:25] <qtpi> is it possible to access a slave ntfs drive from ubuntu?
[09:25] <hardw1re> (CPU): AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+: (Frequency): 1872.191MHz: (Cache): 512 KB: (Bogomips): 3710.97
[09:25] <wsmith> qtpi, yes, just mount it
[09:26] <qtpi> how do i access it
[09:26] <llpamies> kyncani: totem-xine, metacity ....  a lot of packages depends of libcairo1, and it is not avaiable !!!
[09:26] <wsmith> qtpi, have you mounted drives before?
[09:26] <hardw1re> take a look at the file /proc/partitions
[09:26] <qtpi> yes
[09:26] <hardw1re> to find the precise location of it
[09:26] <Rebs> checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
[09:26] <llpamies> is a breezy bug ?
[09:26] <qtpi> its just that i dont know how to access it since this is my 2nd day with unix/ubuntu
[09:26] <wsmith> qtpi, then just mount /dev/hd<xyz> /mnt/ntfs and the files are in /mnt/nfs
[09:26] <wsmith> /mnt/ntfs
[09:26] <Radamanthys> hardw1re,  thanks
[09:26] <hardw1re> no probs Radamanthys
[09:26] <wsmith> qtpi, so is it mounted?
[09:26] <kyncani> llpamies: breezy is not out yet, expect it to be broken until then, and use hoary if you want a stable system
[09:27] <qtpi> that wont delete anything, will it?
[09:27] <Ex-Cyber> where can I find a hoary-compatible unrar-nonfree?
[09:27] <hardw1re> a wot?
[09:27] <spola> Ex-Cyber, oh .. lol, figures i couldn't find it on freshmeat
[09:27] <Ex-Cyber> (or more generally any tool that would work with the newer .rar format)
[09:27] <Radamanthys> Ex-Cyber,  this is a good question
[09:27] <wsmith> qtpi, no. it is (still?) recommended to mount ntfs drives as read-only, though
[09:27] <Webby`> I better download Hoary
[09:27] <Radamanthys> Winamp and Winrar for linux
[09:27] <Webby`> Breezy is buggy on my system
[09:27] <llpamies> kyncani: yes, I know it, but how is possible that other people has breeze running ....
[09:27] <hardw1re> im using breezy purely cause i was having trouble with getting the 2.6.12 kernel etc.
[09:28] <llpamies> kyncani: can You send me your libcairo1 from your apt/cache ?
[09:28] <hardw1re> and on breezy there is an nvidia module for that kernel too
[09:28] <Ex-Cyber> I suspect the debian testing unrar-nonfree will work but haven't tried it yet (dialup)... unstable had a newer libc dep
[09:28] <GoClick2> FireFox won't start, I uninstalled it and Reinstalled it with Synaptic and now I seem to be hooped
[09:28] <kyncani> llpamies: i'm _not_ using breezy (because it's broken)
[09:28] <qtpi> mount: can't find /dev/hdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:28] <pestilence> Ex-Cyber: what's wrong with unrar-nonfree in multiverse?
[09:29] <wsmith> GoClick2, mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.bak
[09:29] <hardw1re> qtpi: check /proc/partitions
[09:29] <hardw1re> that will list all your partitions
[09:29] <sly> hey sorry for not replying hit ot sorted
[09:29] <llpamies> anybody can tell me where I can get a libcairo1 deb ?
[09:29] <Ex-Cyber> pestilence: if it's in multiverse my indexes are probably broken again.. I'll try again, thanks
[09:29] <sly> whats that that shooting game
[09:30] <GoClick2> wsmith,  do you know where I should look for an error log or something?
[09:30] <wsmith> GoClick2, if you start firefox from a terminal, it'll dump all kinds of output there
[09:30] <boga> How can I have my cdrom auto-mounted?
[09:30] <qtpi> bash: /proc/partitions: Permission denied
[09:30] <surfdue> how do i generate ssh keys?
[09:30] <juanej> hey how do i change the order of the partitions?
[09:31] <wsmith> qtpi, cat /proc/partitions
[09:31] <GoClick2> wsmith, I type FireFox at a term?
[09:31] <osfameron> surfdue, ssh-keygen
[09:31] <wsmith> GoClick2, without caps: firefox
[09:31] <GoClick2> it just returns
[09:31] <juanej> I have 3 partitions, ext2, swap and a 34gb FAT32
[09:31] <qtpi> yes, the drives showed up
[09:31] <reiki> ok I gotta ask. I been hammering away at trying to get Spamassassin working with Evolution and it's a real pain in the butt. What are y'all using in Ubuntu for email and how are you handling spam?
[09:31] <wsmith> juanej, you can use parted, but that's trixsy
[09:31] <hardw1re> yeah now you can work out which is your ntfs drive
[09:31] <wsmith> qtpi, which hd<x> is it?
[09:31] <fred_e> Hey guys..whenever i put wlan0 i can no longer ping localhost..anyone know why this could be?
[09:31] <Ex-Cyber> sly: "that shooting game"?
[09:31] <hardw1re> and do a mkdir some where to mount that hd device to
[09:32] <juanej> wsmith: i have gparted
[09:32] <qtpi> hdb
[09:32] <qtpi> theres hdb and hdb1
[09:32] <sly> its ok i rememberd :)
[09:32] <sly> chronium
[09:32] <wsmith> juanej, I would sincerely recommend against it. It is really easy to lose your entire drive.
[09:32] <boga> How can I have my cdrom auto-mounted?
[09:32] <jack|ass> argh...  ok, so is anyone having the same problem with 'libcairo2' not being seen as superceding 'libcairo1' as a dependency?
[09:32] <Bjorn`Food> whats the apt to wine ?
[09:32] <hardw1re> oooh i tell you one thing i have noticed from going from hoary to breezy, my sata drives will now mount on boot instead of having to mount them once i get into kde
[09:32] <wsmith> qtpi: ok. now, do this: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdb1
[09:33] <juanej> wsmith: i want to format the ext2 and swap to install again
[09:33] <wsmith> qtpi, then mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1 -o ro
[09:33] <juanej> but the hda number is not correct
[09:33] <jack|ass> is there a different breezy repository i should be using?
[09:33] <wsmith> juanej, I don't follow
[09:33] <juanej> for ext 2 is hda2, for swap is hda 6 and for the fat32 is hda5
[09:33] <surfdue> please can someone tell me how to generate ssh keys
[09:34] <thrice`> juanej, then what's your question?
[09:34] <surfdue> please its an emergency
[09:34] <juanej> i want to have hda1 for ext2, hda2 for swap and hda3 for the fat32
[09:34] <pestilence> surfdue: ssh-keygen
[09:34] <qtpi> mount: only root can do that
[09:34] <wsmith> surfdue, man ssh-keygen
[09:34] <wsmith> ssh-keygen -t rsa|dsa
[09:34] <surfdue> i dont know what to choose
[09:34] <surfdue> what to do
[09:34] <juanej> when i use the partition tool of the installer it gives that numbers to the partitions
[09:34] <wsmith> surfdue, what are these keys for?
[09:34] <surfdue> someone to ssh into my box
[09:34] <juanej> and there is a windows xp entry on grub
[09:34] <juanej> i dont have windows installed
[09:34] <wsmith> surfdue, passwordless?
[09:34] <surfdue> sshd
[09:34] <surfdue> see
[09:34] <surfdue> true
[09:34] <Radamanthys> How come to install the Winrar and Winamp for linux?
[09:35] <surfdue> they willlogin via usersnames
[09:35] <snippy> hey ppl..
[09:35] <pestilence> Radamanthys: Win* doesn't exist in linux.
[09:35] <snippy> some still remember my partition problems.. lol..
[09:35] <wsmith> I see. Then as the user they will be logging in as, do ssh-keygen -t rsa
[09:35] <wsmith> surfdue, then do ssh-keygen -t dsa
[09:35] <pestilence> Radamanthys: xmms and unrar-nonfree are what you want
[09:35] <Bjorn`Food> whats the apt line for WINE?
[09:35] <wsmith> surfdue, just hit enter when asked where to put the files
[09:35] <Radamanthys> pestilence,  thats rigth this a equivalent
[09:36] <surfdue> thank you
[09:36] <wsmith> surfdue, but that's only half of the magic trick
[09:36] <snippy> I decided to not use any ntfs crap for linux.. and just let ubuntu read the ntfs partition so I can copy some stuff on my actual partition.. like 20gb.. then delete the whole ntfs.. :/
[09:36] <surfdue> oh
[09:36] <Ex-Cyber> Bjorn`Food: I'm not sure about an ubuntu-specific one, but maybe see if http://www.winehq.org has a link to a repo...
[09:36] <surfdue> thenwhat?
[09:36] <wsmith> surfdue, you have to get the *.pub from ~/.ssh to the end users
[09:36] <surfdue> why
[09:37] <surfdue> ssh never requered this before
[09:37] <hardw1re> ooooh and also this kernel/breezy distro actually reports my cpu speed correctly!
[09:37] <surfdue> on any other linux distro
[09:37] <qtpi> wsmith: i mounted the drive, now how do i access it?
[09:37] <wsmith> surfdue, your users need the *.pub files to login passwordless-ly
[09:37] <pestilence> surfdue: if all you want is ssh, apt-get install openssh-server
[09:37] <joseduenas> hello
[09:37] <surfdue> i did pestilence
[09:37] <juanej> what is the LVM thing on the ubuntu installation partition tool?
[09:37] <joseduenas> anyone knows seahorse for gpg encryption ?
[09:37] <surfdue> surfdue@ubuntu:/etc/init.d $ /etc/init.d/ssh start
[09:37] <surfdue>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
[09:37] <surfdue> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[09:37] <surfdue> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[09:37] <surfdue> Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
[09:37] <surfdue>  *hd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.                                [fail] 
[09:37] <wsmith> qtpi, Places->Computer->Filesystem->mnt->ntfs
[09:38] <surfdue> it needs, keys
[09:38] <pestilence> surfdue: that's something different.
[09:38] <qtpi> wsmith: i mounted the hard drive, now how do i access it?
[09:38] <surfdue> oh
[09:38] <surfdue> how do i fix this
[09:38] <surfdue> its really an emergency
[09:38] <surfdue> soorrry
[09:38] <pestilence> surfdue: i would say apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server
[09:38] <pestilence> or dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[09:38] <GoClick> /echo $host
[09:38] <GoClick> hrm
[09:38] <surfdue> works
[09:38] <surfdue> thanks
[09:38] <pestilence> sure
[09:39] <qtpi> wsmith: i dont have permission to access it
[09:39] <joseduenas> it is supposed there is a plgin for gedit and nautilis packaged in seahorse...
[09:39] <Scrawny1> whats the command to do a sudo search?
[09:39] <juanej> hey wsmith
[09:39] <wsmith> juanej, yessa?
[09:39] <wsmith> qtpi, one sec
[09:39] <juanej> on gparted i read that my HD is msdos type
[09:39] <juanej> "DiskType: MSDOS"
[09:40] <juanej> I see 4 partitions
[09:40] <juanej> hda2 for ext2
[09:40] <juanej> hda 1 have hda6 and hda5
[09:40] <juanej> hda5 is for the fat32
[09:40] <snippy> damn I cant mount the NTFS partition
[09:40] <juanej> hda6 for the swap
[09:40] <snippy> someone tell me if I'm doing something wrong?
[09:40] <Rebs> everytime i go to a flash site, mozilla dies
[09:40] <snippy> I want it to show in nautilus
[09:41] <wsmith> qtpi, sudo mount -o remount,umask=000,ro /mnt/ntfs
[09:41] <pestilence> snippy: what is the error
[09:41] <juanej> wsmith: it shouldnt be msdos type, should it?
[09:41] <snippy> no error
[09:41] <pestilence> snippy: then what do you mean, you can't mount it
[09:41] <wsmith> wsmith, it's msdos as opposed to a mac or sparc system --> something completely not x86
[09:41] <snippy> pestilence I just mount it with   mount -t /dev/hda5 /media/windows_c
[09:41] <snippy> no output
[09:41] <Radamanthys> In the xmms its adpated the equivalent of Amip
[09:42] <snippy> but nautilus wont show the content of media/windows_c
[09:42] <qtpi> wsmith: still have no permission
[09:42] <pestilence> snippy: probably wrong permission.
[09:42] <wsmith> juanej, I guess that could be better said as you File Allocation Table is msdos-based
[09:42] <juanej> how do i change that?
[09:42] <filip_> i have som mp3 that i whant to burn into an cd, how can i do?
[09:42] <snippy> pestilence: yep thats what it says.. how can I change it?
[09:42] <kirki> where can I get this stuf? (ubuntu) (please)
[09:43] <Bjorn`Food> hmm
[09:43] <Bjorn`Food> i've got the wine repos now
[09:43] <Bjorn`Food> but when i want to install it
[09:43] <Bjorn`Food> I get an error
[09:43] <wsmith> juanej, you don't your machine will not work without it
[09:43] <titanium> i need to be able to fully control the contents of a directory remotely (from a windows machine, full permissions to do anything). what's the best way to accomplish this?
[09:43] <juanej> wsmith: but i dont have windows xp on it
[09:43] <juanej> and grub stays showing i do
[09:43] <wsmith> juanej, the disk type (as long as it's disk and not partition) as msdos is perfectly normal
[09:44] <wsmith> juanej, so, all you want to do is get rid of the windows xp in grub?
[09:44] <juanej> wsmith: and change the hda number
[09:44] <kirki> does anybody can be kind and tell me: where can I get this stuf from? (ubuntu)
[09:44] <snippy> pestilence?
[09:44] <pestilence> snippy: snippy try mounting with umask=0555
[09:44] <juanej> i dont want a hda 6 for swap
[09:44] <juanej> hda1 for ext2 hda2 for swap and hda3 for the fat32
[09:45] <wsmith> kirki: ubuntulinux.org?
[09:45] <snippy> pestilence, whats the command?
[09:45] <kirki> thanks a lot wsmith
[09:45] <jbull> anyone had a go at compiling sonance/banshee from cvs recently?
[09:45] <hardw1re> can xmms play shoutcast / mp3 streams?
[09:45] <wsmith> hardw1re, yes
[09:46] <juanej> wsmith: let me show u a screenshot of gparted
[09:46] <JazyPPC> really.
[09:46] <JazyPPC> can it play *.asx streams?
[09:46] <steven__> how can i make cron to run a script i made everyday at 6:00
[09:46] <juanej> wsmith: http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7551/screenshot5pu.png
[09:46] <wsmith> qtpi, sudo mount -o remount,uid=1000,ro /mnt/ntfs
[09:46] <Bjorn`Food> Does wine support amd 64 cpu's ?
[09:47] <redguy> steven__: by reading man crontab ?
[09:47] <wsmith> steven__, man 5 crontab
[09:47] <wsmith> 00 06 * * *
[09:47] <Ummmmm> bjorn: by support, if you mean run -- yes. Whether it supports full 64bit functionality -- I'm all ears
[09:47] <qtpi> wsmith: still doesnt work
[09:47] <qtpi> no permission to acces
[09:47] <qtpi> access
[09:47] <wsmith> qtpi, ???
[09:48] <pestilence> snippy: mount umask=0555 /dev/whatever /media/windows_c
[09:48] <Bjorn`Food> Ummmmm, its because i can't install it
[09:48] <Bjorn`Food> =/
[09:48] <qtpi> i cant access the mounted drive
[09:48] <Bjorn`Food> I added the repos
[09:48] <wsmith> qtpi, did I originally tell you to mount it in /mnt/hdb1 or /mnt/ntfs?
[09:48] <Bjorn`Food> but i can't install wine
[09:48] <qtpi> hdb1 i think
[09:48] <juanej> wsmith: did u see my gparted?
[09:48] <juanej> http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7551/screenshot5pu.png
[09:48] <wsmith> juanej, yes.
[09:48] <juanej> something is wrong
[09:48] <juanej> what is that hda1?
[09:48] <wsmith> juanej, that's perfectly normal
[09:48] <juanej> but why hda5 and 6 for my fat32 and swap?
[09:48] <juanej> how do i change that?
[09:49] <juanej> :(
[09:49] <wsmith> juanej, back when ms-dos was a fledgling os, bill gates in his infinite wisdom decided to limit partitions to 4
[09:49] <wsmith> juanej, later, when people needed more, someone created a special partition type, called extended
[09:49] <wsmith> juanej, which can hold more partitions
[09:49] <juanej> where is hda3? where is hda4?
[09:49] <pestilence> snippy: acutally, maybe it's mount /dev/whatever /media/windows_c umask=0002
[09:49] <juanej> i just have 3 partitions
[09:50] <juanej> i dont need that extended type
[09:50] <wsmith> juanej, the extended rules say so as to not interfere with the old school way of doing partitions, the ext ones would start at 5
[09:50] <juanej> uhmm
[09:50] <juanej> what about making just swap not extended?
[09:50] <juanej> can i do that?
[09:51] <wsmith> juanej, you can try. I'm telling you that there is nothing wrong with your partitions other than you let an automated tool do it for you. (probably redhat's)
[09:51] <snippy> pestilence, not working.. it says moint point error
[09:51] <jbull> i'm trying to compile latest banshee from cvs but it spits this error on make install: "No rule to make target 'install-data-hook'...ideas?
[09:51] <juanej> uhmmm, how do i run redhat's tool without installing it?
[09:52] <snippy> mount: mount point umask=0002 does not exist
[09:52] <wsmith> qtpi, sorry I've been telling you the wrong things
[09:52] <steven__> wsmith thanks dude
[09:52] <wsmith> snippy it's -o umask=0000
[09:52] <Ummmmm> I have a 120GB NTFS drive which needs to be converted to ext3... is there a tool to do that?
[09:52] <Radamanthys> bye people
[09:52] <wsmith> snippy, where 0000 is your umask ( don't forget the -o)
[09:52] <Jhair> Ummmmm, the ubuntu installer does that
[09:52] <wsmith> qtpi, sudo mount -o remount,umask=0000,ro /mnt/hdb1
[09:52] <hosler> Whats a good replacement for gaim? Gaim keeps having some sort of segmentation fault even when I completely remove it then reinstall it.
[09:52] <snippy> mount: /dev/hda5 already mounted or /media/windows_c busy
[09:52] <snippy> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda5 is already mounted on /media/windows_c
[09:52] <snippy> how to unmount it?
[09:52] <wsmith> Ummmmm, is it ext2 now?
[09:53] <Radamanthys> How about the xmms on the Irc client?
[09:53] <wsmith> snippy, umount /dev/hda5
[09:53] <Ummmmm> no it's ntfs
[09:53] <wsmith> Ummmmm, mke2fs /dev/myusb
[09:53] <wsmith> sorry
[09:53] <wsmith> Ummmmm, mke2fs -j /dev/myusb
[09:53] <hardw1re> hey does anyone know what needs to be isntall/running to get the cookie handler working?
[09:53] <snippy> thanks guys, worked fine ;)
[09:53] <heatxsink> hello all, how come everytime I reboot, /dev/dvd goes away?
[09:53] <Ummmmm> will that wipe the drive? or convert the fs?
[09:53] <wsmith> Ummmmm, wipe
[09:53] <hosler> What is a good aol instant messenger program for linux that is not gaim?
[09:53] <Ummmmm> I was hoping to avoid that ... :(
[09:54] <wsmith> Ummmmm, If you want to convert, you have to copy locally, then format, then put back on
[09:54] <jbull> hosler:  far as i know there isn't one...
[09:54] <wsmith> hosler, centericq
[09:54] <hosler> wsmith, thanks.
[09:54] <Ummmmm> sigh, thought so. Only problem is that I don't have 120gb spare on the network ... have to get another drive *sob*
[09:54] <dcraven> hosler: you could always use a jabber client like gajim with a transport.
[09:55] <wsmith> Ummmmm, as far as I know, there's no way to format a drive non-destructively
[09:55] <wsmith> Ummmmm, best buy does refunds
[09:55] <hosler> ok
[09:55] <Ummmmm> thanks wsmith just gonna have to bite the bullet and do it the old-fashioned way ...
[09:55] <Ummmmm> best buy? what?!
[09:55] <Ummmmm> ah oic thanks
[09:55] <Ummmmm> lol
[09:56] <funkyHat> erk... i think i need to recompile alsa for that kernel update :S
[09:56] <bina> I have a Nvidia GF4 Ti (i think its Ti at least) and I've isntalled the nvidia drivers through apt-get, however, the GL screensavers dont seem to load and Tux racer just seems to stop as soon as he starts to slide down the hill. Escape still works, so i dont think its the program crashing.  Anyone know what could be causing this?
[09:56] <sly> bina
[09:57] <wsmith> bina, crashed into a wall?
[09:57] <wsmith> qtpi, any luck?
[09:58] <bina> wsmith: hehe, no, shamefully :). The road seems clear.  I think it could be either my card or the drivers as it happened in FC4, and the screensavers arent working
[09:58] <bina> im hoping its the drivers :)
[09:58] <bina> although, i imigine i could live without tux racer :)
[09:58] <wsmith> bina, well, if you glxinfo, is direct rendering: yes?
[09:59] <bina> wsmith: ill check. never heard o that prog before :)
[09:59] <bina> woah, lods of stuff
[09:59] <james__> Can anybody tell me if I need to download drivers to get sound?
[09:59] <wsmith> bina, 3rd line
[09:59] <wsmith> james__, no
[09:59] <bina> wsmith: yeah, direct rendering: Yes
[09:59] <wsmith> james__, there aren't really any drivers to download
[10:00] <wsmith> bina, cool. Your acceleration is working. However it seems that your drivers a mucked up. Using the proprietary or the open source ones?
[10:00] <james__> I can't figure out why I have no sound
[10:00] <wsmith> james__, what kind of soundcard?
[10:00] <james__> Creative i think
[10:00] <wsmith> james__, not the dell sblive, is it?
[10:01] <james__> ct4520
[10:01] <bina> wsmith: not a clue, all I did was 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'
[10:01] <james__> when I had windows i downloaded the nvidia desktop manager and it took care of everything
[10:02] <james__> thats about all I know
[10:02] <bina> wsmith: should i try installing the linux-restructed-modules... package?
[10:02] <james__> and on the card it says creative ct4520
[10:02] <bina> restricted*
[10:02] <wsmith> bina, I dunno. I've never had luck with nvidia.
[10:02] <wsmith> !nvidia
[10:02] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[10:03] <wsmith> should help
[10:03] <bina> wsmith: wow cool :) thanks
[10:03] <bina> can anyone do that?
[10:03] <wsmith> bina, yes
[10:03] <bina> sweet :) will remember for the future
[10:03] <wsmith> james__, sanity check: is the volume up?
[10:04] <apokryphos> how can I find out the /dev that a folder in /media is mounted on?
[10:04] <wsmith> apokryphos, mount
[10:04] <wsmith> apokryphos, or cat /etc/mtab
[10:04] <james__> yes and everything it plugged in, but when I try to turn the volume up through ubuntu it says...
[10:04] <nEmiSH> apokryphos, df -ah or /etc/mtab as wsmith said
[10:04] <james__> no volume contol elements and or devices found
[10:05] <apokryphos> Thank you all
[10:05] <nEmiSH> can someone help me figure out a hotplug issue?
[10:05] <wsmith> james__, is it new? Or have you had it since you installed ubuntu?
[10:05] <nEmiSH> well HOW automounting works with hotplug devices
[10:05] <mrproper> Is it still unsafe to upgrade to Breezy from Horay?
[10:05] <REBELinBLUE> hey
[10:05] <james__> is what new?
[10:05] <silvestro> hi
[10:05] <wsmith> james__, the card
[10:05] <sly> anyone know any games to apt-get to play with, got frozen-bubble, tuxracer, chrominum
[10:05] <Krueger> hello :) how do i get sound in tuxracer :)
[10:06] <REBELinBLUE> does anyone know of an EPG (electronic programme guide) for linux? like digiguide for windows, I don't want a tv viewer just a tv guide
[10:06] <james__> nope, it worked fine, then I formatted my hard drive and installed ubuntu instead of windows
[10:06] <silvestro> i've a problema someone can help me?(my english is't perfect but i'm italian :P)
[10:06] <wsmith> wesnoth-* neverball gl-117 nethack freecraft
[10:06] <silvestro> problem
[10:06] <wsmith> !games are neverball gl-117 nethack freecraft frozen-bubble tuxrace chromium
[10:06] <ubotu> ...but games is already something else...
[10:06] <wsmith> !games
[10:06] <ubotu> methinks games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.
[10:06] <Ummmmm> silvestro: what's up?
[10:07] <silvestro> my on board vga....
[10:08] <lxuser_serg> i try to upgrade gnome-media from hoary to breezy, and i have a problem. I need libcairo1 (>=0.6.0) but it is not installable. but i have only libcairo2. What is wrong?
[10:08] <silvestro> the mother board is fic k7m-400a
[10:09] <wsmith> james__, do lspci. Are there any sound cards listed?
[10:09] <silvestro> and mount a via chipset
[10:09] <silvestro> but i can't see corretly
[10:09] <Krueger> I have no sound in tuxracer ?
[10:09] <james__> how do i do lspci?
[10:10] <LasseL> is there an easy way I can test the performance of my graphics driver
[10:10] <james__> i have my device manager open
[10:10] <silvestro> i see a lot of waves
[10:10] <LasseL> so I can see if it pays off to upgrade it
[10:10] <wsmith> Applications->System Tools->Terminal
[10:10] <wsmith> type lspci
[10:10] <james__> ok
[10:10] <wsmith> LasseL, glxgears
[10:11] <james__> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[10:11] <james__>  is that it?
[10:11] <LasseL> wsmith, 200fps?
[10:11] <waltz> I just spent the last 4 hours trying to install Linux 2.6.10-5 on my SCSI 400GB SATA HDD, and I FAILED!!!
[10:11] <wsmith> LasseL, poor.
[10:11] <sly> that neverball is mad , thankyou :)
[10:11] <waltz> Ubuntu Linux that is.
[10:12] <LasseL> wsmith, is there a way to test 2D performance ?
[10:12] <wsmith> waltz, you just said SCSI SATA HDD
[10:12] <waltz> It told me that the "greeter" failed.
[10:12] <james__> i don't think it's there
[10:12] <wsmith> sly, it comes with neverputt. totally addictive
[10:12] <lxuser_serg> where i can get libcairo1 >=0.6.0? please help!
[10:12] <d2dchat> what is the best ftp client to use in linux?
[10:12] <wsmith> james__, is it a card or onboard?
[10:12] <wsmith> d2dchat, gftp
[10:12] <d2dchat> wsmith, how do u use it?
[10:13] <LasseL> d2dchat, nautilus works
[10:13] <wsmith> d2dchat, so does mozilla
[10:13] <waltz> :\
[10:13] <d2dchat> wsmith, well, how do u use gftp?
[10:13] <LasseL> d2dchat, just write ftp://somesite.com in the nautilus addr
[10:13] <james__> it's a card, like it's not on the motherboard if that's what you mean
[10:13] <wsmith> d2dchat, use synaptec to find gtp, then install it. It'll appear under Applications->Internet
[10:13] <wsmith> *gftp
[10:14] <wsmith> james__, Is it PCI or ISA?
[10:14] <james__> how do i tell?
[10:14] <wsmith> How old is it?
[10:14] <james__> i don't know how old it is, but it doesn't say pci anywhere
[10:15] <wsmith> james__, are you looking in your machine?
[10:15] <Wanderer___> Anyone know why my Win XP OS made corrections to hard disk after installing Ubuntu? It also claims that new hardware is installed.
[10:15] <wsmith> james__, what color is the port it's plugged into?
[10:15] <james__> i have it plugged into the black one that says spkr out
[10:16] <d2dchat> wsmith, heh im a newb and have no idea how to use synaptec
[10:16] <sly> hmm i cant see that =\
[10:16] <wsmith> d2dchat, System->Admin->Synaptic
[10:16] <steven__> well can sombody help me, this is not a linux question but i need it in order to make my linux box to behave
[10:16] <james__> is it bad to look in your machine when it's on?
[10:16] <d2dchat> wsmith, oo, well i kinda wanted to learn in terminal
[10:16] <wsmith> james__, no, but don't kill youself reaching around the desk
[10:16] <Ummmmm> james__ only for your warrantee
[10:16] <wsmith> d2dchat, sudo apt-get install gftp
[10:17] <james__> no warranty i put the computer togeather myself
[10:17] <Ummmmm> steven__ what's up?
[10:17] <steven__> i have a compaq box but after a while the ucp starts to hybernite and when it happens everythings crashes
[10:17] <james__> and i have no idea what i'm doing
[10:17] <Ummmmm> what's a ucp?!
[10:17] <d2dchat> E: Couldn't find package gftp
[10:17] <wsmith> james__, when did you put this computer together?
[10:17] <james__> i plug the speaker into the one that says spkr out right?
[10:18] <wsmith> james__, correct
[10:18] <Krueger> I have no sound in tuxracer or other games ?
[10:18] <james__> i put it togeather about six months ago
[10:18] <wsmith> Krueger, killall esd before starting
[10:18] <wsmith> james__, do you remember if the sound card was new?
[10:18] <steven__> i have a compaq box but after a while the ucp starts to hybernite and when it happens everythings crashes
[10:18] <wsmith> james__, I'm trying to figure out if you have an ISA card (really old), in which case, it wouldn't show up in lspci
[10:18] <Ummmmm> steven__ what is a UCP?!
[10:19] <james__> yeah it was, well it worked until after I installed ubuntu
[10:19] <steven__> Ummmmm: i mean my cpu
[10:19] <james__> oh yeah it might be that old
[10:19] <mustafu> Heh, while we're on this subject...how far back does hardware support go?  I have an ancient OptiAudio 16 ISA card and was wondering if it might be supported
[10:19] <wsmith> Like > 8 years old?
[10:19] <Ummmmm> ok - wanna try turning off power management? go into the bios and disable acpi
[10:19] <steven__> Ummmmm: it's and old compaq presario
[10:19] <steven__> Ummmmm: how can i get into the bios  in a compaq box
[10:20] <wsmith> mustafu, those old ISA cards are still supported under the OSS drivers, but not the ALSA. So, in other words, it's difficult
[10:20] <james__> i have no idea how old
[10:20] <dimethyl> hey
[10:20] <wsmith> steven__, Is it an *old* box?
[10:20] <steven__> wsmith yes
[10:20] <mustafu> no easier than it is in windows, I'd imagine
[10:20] <d2dchat> swales, E: Couldn't find package gftp
[10:20] <mustafu> windows won't touch the thing ;)
[10:20] <dimethyl> can someone pm me their sources.list ?..i upgraded to breezy and i wanna go back, firefox has no fonts on it its scary
[10:20] <wsmith> steven__, compaqs used to ship with a partition that had their bios. if you just installed linux and wiped that out, you're going to be hurting
[10:20] <james__> oh well, I don't need sound that badly
[10:20] <james__> thank you so much for your help
[10:20] <wsmith> dimethyl, ubuntuguide.org
[10:20] <Efwis> help, while GRUB was installing i got an error 17
[10:21] <james__> you rock
[10:21] <dimethyl> wsmith, i cant use my browser man
[10:21] <dimethyl> there is no text
[10:21] <dimethyl> the fonts are missing
[10:21] <wsmith> james__, sorry couldn't help.
[10:21] <steven__> its a compaq presario 5023
[10:21] <wsmith> dimethyl, how do you want it?
[10:21] <dimethyl> what?...just typed in a pm would be cool
[10:21] <dimethyl> pasted
[10:21] <dimethyl> les u wanna try to dcc it
[10:21] <pinky2000> Anyone notice a weird behavior in Warty with Xorg where after a day or two of being logged in the xorg process seems to consume 50% of the CPU time even whn the box is completely idle?
[10:21] <steven__> wsmith: it had only one partition
[10:21] <wsmith> steven__, when the logo comes up, press esc . if it doesn't tell you to press another key to do it, you might be screwed
[10:22] <wsmith> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[10:22] <wsmith> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[10:22] <wsmith> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[10:22] <wsmith> ## distribution.
[10:22] <wsmith> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[10:22] <wsmith> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[10:22] <wsmith> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[10:22] <wsmith> ## repository.
[10:22] <pinky2000> I'm running XFCE instead of the default gnome btw
[10:22] <wsmith> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[10:22] <wsmith> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[10:22] <wsmith> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[10:22] <mjr> pinky2000, umm, Warty doesn't have X.org :)
[10:22] <wsmith> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[10:22] <wsmith> ## team.
[10:22] <wsmith> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:22] <wsmith> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:22] <pinky2000> sorry, hoary
[10:22] <wsmith> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[10:22] <dimethyl> whoa dude
[10:22] <wsmith> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[10:22] <dimethyl> pm pm
[10:22] <wsmith> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[10:22] <wsmith> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[10:22] <wsmith> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[10:22] <wsmith> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[10:22] <wsmith> ## Backports
[10:22] <wsmith> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:22] <wsmith> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:22] <wsmith> did I just paste that?
[10:22] <wsmith> stupid xchat
[10:22] <dimethyl> in the main chan
[10:22] <wsmith> sorry
[10:23] <steven__> wsmith: well everything is working fine, so i dont think i srewed something up
[10:23] <mjr> pinky2000, well, anyway, no
[10:23] <wsmith> steven__, your machines doesn't need the bios settings utility to work correctly.
[10:23] <pinky2000> if I restart X then it's fine for another day or two
[10:24] <steven__> wsmith: well i am going to turn that thing off
[10:24] <heatxsink> does anyone else have a problem where every metacity window that is in focus the title bar flashes?
[10:24] <steven__> thnx
[10:24] <pinky2000> I thought it was a background app but even with everything but the bare essentials it does it. I wonder if maybe it's xscreensaver or something
[10:25] <dimethyl> thanks tho wsmith
[10:25] <pinky2000> oh well, off to restart X
[10:25] <d2dchat> Do i need to get both gftp-common and gftp-gtk?
[10:26] <wsmith> d2dchat, gftp-gtk will get gftp-common automatically
[10:26] <d2dchat> k
[10:26] <Wanderer___> Will anyone help me?
[10:26] <d2dchat> what is a good editor package that highlights html and recognizes php and ruby>
[10:27] <wsmith> d2dchat, you can start wars with that question
[10:27] <d2dchat> lol
[10:27] <aeruder> d2dchat: there's tons of them i'm sure
[10:27] <wsmith> gedit, vim, emacs, joe, jed, kate,
[10:27] <aeruder> d2dchat: jedit, eclipse, the list goes on..
[10:27] <d2dchat> wsmith, your preference?
[10:27] <wsmith> d2dchat, vim
[10:27] <aeruder> d2dchat: you are treading in dangerous territory now
[10:28] <d2dchat> lol
[10:28] <Bjorn`Food> Does anybody know if wine will work under amd 64 release of ubuntu ?
[10:28] <d2dchat> wsmith, why vim?
[10:28] <wsmith> d2dchat, I code all day long. Most efficient for me. My hands never leave the keyboard.
[10:28] <Wanderer___> Anyone? Help?
[10:29] <jtan325> why don't you say what your problem is?
[10:29] <aeruder> d2dchat: i too prefer vim, but i think you'll find that if you choose vim or emacs and take the time to really learn them you'll enjoy vast amounts of productivity at the expense of a rather steep learning curve
[10:29] <aeruder> Wanderer___: you don't need to ask to ask, that's just dumb
[10:29] <aeruder> just ask your question
[10:30] <d2dchat> aeruder, there is a learning curve involved with editors? lol
[10:30] <Wanderer___> Because I don't want to go through the trouble of asking if everyone is just going to ignore me.
[10:30] <aeruder> d2dchat: vim and emacs? sure, at least if you want to use them effectively
[10:30] <jtan325> we will if you have an attitude like that
[10:30] <wsmith> Wanderer___, ignoring != never had problem
[10:30] <d2dchat> aeruder, im sure that while im using them, i get better but can still code
[10:30] <aeruder> d2dchat: i could do things in vim that would make a person used to standard editors stare in awe (as most people who have spent a couple years could)
[10:30] <Wanderer___> Better to wait until I have someones' attention. Then I just have to type the problem once.
[10:31] <aeruder> d2dchat: yea, i mean, emacs and vim you can use like a standard editor for the most part
[10:31] <aeruder> vim is definitely a little further from standard than most
[10:31] <wsmith> d2dchat, beware. vim is *extremely* difficult to get the hang of
[10:31] <aeruder> but at that point, you might just use some other editor
[10:31] <Wanderer___> Anyway, can I open a private chat with anyone who would be willing to help?
[10:31] <aeruder> d2dchat: but very rewarding when you get it ;)
[10:31] <wsmith> d2dchat, but don't be affraid. all that silliness was well thought-out
[10:31] <aeruder> Wanderer___: ask your question in here or go away
[10:32] <aeruder> Wanderer___: just ask, seriously, why would you want to limit the people helping you from 300 or whatever to 1
[10:32] <d2dchat> lol *shivers*
[10:32] <Bjorn`Food> Does anybody know if wine will work under amd 64 release of ubuntu ?
[10:32] <wsmith> Bjorn`Food, did you try?
[10:32] <bz0b> can someone please tell me the dpkg command to install something
[10:32] <aeruder> d2dchat: the nice thing about vim or emacs, is that they are available -=everywhere=-
[10:33] <wsmith> bz0b, apt-get install
[10:33] <hardw1re> Bjorn`Food: i have tried and its very much doubtfall :(
[10:33] <aeruder> mac, windows, linux, and base install on almost all unix installs
[10:33] <hardw1re> but cedega works
[10:33] <aeruder> vim is an enhanced vi which has been around for decades
[10:33] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.12-7-amd64-xeon x86_64] 
[10:33] <funkyHat> Wanderer___, none of us know everything, asking in the room means someone who knows the answer is many times more likely to see your question
[10:33] <bz0b> wsmith, but its a .deb file
[10:33] <wsmith> aeruder, isn't vim 7 due out soon?
[10:33] <d2dchat> do you use vim via terminal?
[10:33] <wsmith> bz0b, dpkg --install <file>
[10:33] <aeruder> wsmith: yea, looks like they have some neat stuff
[10:33] <Efwis> anyone got a good way to install Ubuntu on the same hdd as Windows for a newbie?? helping a friend get it installed via chat
[10:33] <bz0b> k thats what i asked
[10:33] <bz0b> k thx
[10:33] <aeruder> d2dchat: there are some graphical vim's too...
[10:34] <aeruder> d2dchat: but they are similar enough that if you learn the console one you can use the gtk or windows based ones in the same way
[10:34] <d2dchat> aeruder, what would you recommend for  ahard core coder?
[10:34] <Wanderer___> I need to change the screen resolution. Ubuntu appears to have only one resolution. Where are the others? I go to where it's *supposed * to be, but the menu only contains one resolution anfd refresh rate.
[10:34] <bz0b> I like vim in the terminal just how it is
[10:34] <wsmith> aeruder, like more autocommands (finally)
[10:34] <aeruder> d2dchat: well, i personally would recommend vim, but if you really want to be a hardcore code
[10:34] <aeruder> r
[10:34] <aeruder> d2dchat: pick emacs or vim
[10:34] <wsmith> Wanderer___, try CTRL-ALT-+ ?
[10:34] <d2dchat> aeruder, I am a hard core coder;) im just wondering if i should install the gnome part of vim
[10:34] <funkyHat> aeruder, very diplomatic ;)
[10:35] <aeruder> d2dchat: install the gnome one
[10:35] <aeruder> d2dchat: because to start with gnome, you do vim -g
[10:35] <aeruder> d2dchat: otherwise it will just be a console program
[10:35] <d2dchat> aeruder, console aint always bad;)
[10:35] <aeruder> funkyHat: yea, i know better than to say straight out vim or emacs ;)
[10:35] <Wanderer___> You mean CTRL+ ALT+ +?
[10:35] <funkyHat> Wanderer___, yes
[10:35] <aeruder> d2dchat: no, it is not, i do about 80% of my vim'ing in console and when i'm working on large projects i do it with the graphical because i have a theme which is rather nice on the eyes
[10:36] <Hellevator> where are the settings for the wireless nic?
[10:36] <aeruder> d2dchat: and the console vim doesn't have full infinite color support obviously
[10:36] <d2dchat> aeruder, haha gotcha, guess it wouldnt hurt, ive got 80 gigs to use up
[10:36] <booger> does any body know of a app that is easy to use for converting avi files to vcd ??
[10:36] <aeruder> d2dchat: if you need some help getting vim initially configured and you want to try it, give me a msg, i'll help you out
[10:36] <wsmith> d2dchat, have you seen the size of emacs lately?
[10:37] <aeruder> wsmith: heh
[10:37] <aeruder> d2dchat: but seriously, the greatest thing about vim and emacs is they are horribly configurable, and they are available everywhere
[10:37] <Lasse> d2dchat, try this guide for learning vi: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/vi-guide.xml
[10:37] <Hellevator> how do I edit the settings for my wireless nic in unbuntu?
[10:37] <Bjorn`Food> hardw1re, thanks
[10:37] <aeruder> i copy my config and use it on windows and linux and os x ;)
[10:37] <Bjorn`Food> I hope they will put out a stable release soon
[10:38] <oceandead> man iwconfig
[10:38] <Bjorn`Food> anybody knows if cedega works ?
[10:38] <hardw1re> yep
[10:38] <hardw1re> i use it for steam
[10:38] <sly> i have a quick questions then
[10:38] <WodanTJ> Hi! I'm wondering if theres a setup-script that upgrades from server to desktop? I'm installing ubuntu on a laptop with ethernet and then i take the hdd and put it in another laptop to finish the installation (having a wificard only on that one so i'll go for the rest of the installation from there)
[10:38] <Bjorn`Food> hardw1re,
[10:38] <Bjorn`Food> did you pay for it Oo
[10:38] <hardw1re> yup
[10:38] <sly> hardwlre whats the command line arguments to start in say a 800x600 window ?
[10:38] <hardw1re> 40 / year
[10:39] <hardw1re> i dont know
[10:39] <hardw1re> are you using point2play sly?
[10:39] <booger> does any body know of a app that is easy to use for converting avi files to vcd ??
[10:39] <hardw1re> cause i have no problems with full screen mode
[10:39] <bimberi> WodanTJ: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <Kumasan> I have a bug I'd like to report, but don't know wher, (or what package) to report it for, it's NFS related, if that makes a difference. I have only verified it with two Hoary systems. If I have machine A, with a /pub directory (one partition) and a /pub/foo directory (which is a different partition) when I mount /pub on machine B, df will show available space of /pub without including the space available on /pub/foo. Any suggestions on
[10:39] <Kumasan> where to report this bug?
[10:39] <WodanTJ> bimberi: thanks!
[10:39] <bimberi> WodanTJ: yvw
[10:39] <Hellevator> bugzilla?
[10:39] <sly> well erm. lets say i didnt pay for point2play........ and its gonna all screwy and dishs out errors when i click install
[10:39] <funkyHat> has anyone successfully installed a creative webcam instant (or any creative webcam)?
[10:39] <bimberi> :)
[10:39] <funkyHat> i'd like some pointers in the right direction :)
[10:40] <Kumasan> Hellevator: but for what package? nfs server? or client?
[10:40] <Hellevator> client is guess
[10:40] <hardw1re> sly: thats cause your using cvs right?
[10:40] <Bjorn`Food> Somebody asked me this midday if i got my microphone to work under ubuntu
[10:40] <sly> not exactly =\ , ;)
[10:40] <d2dchat> what is firefox under in the spm?
[10:40] <Bjorn`Food> the answer is yes !
[10:40] <Kumasan> well, If that isn't right, I am sure they will point me elsewhere :) I'll try that.
[10:41] <WodanTJ> bimberi: do you think there will be any problems with other stuff when doing it like this? (both intel, installputer = intel centrino and realputergoingtohaveit = intel p2
[10:41] <booger> please ??
[10:41] <booger> please ??
[10:41] <hardw1re> tbh i cant wait for the full release of breezy, cause it seems to have alot of improvments for the  x86_64 system
[10:41] <funkyHat> d2dchat, mozilla-firefox
[10:41] <booger> does any body know of a app that is easy to use for converting avi files to vcd ??
[10:41] <d2dchat> nvm found it
[10:41] <d2dchat> ty tho:)
[10:41] <funkyHat> :)
[10:42] <aeruder> booger: there are some vcd making programs that use mpg's
[10:42] <mustafu> if K3B is used in KDE, what is commonly used in GNOME?  For Cd-writing software, that is
[10:42] <aeruder> booger: you can use mencoder to convert a .avi to .mpg
[10:42] <aeruder> however the particular command line options to mencoder are left as an exercise to you ;)
[10:42] <hardw1re> hmm, im trying to get apt-cache search to output all the available packages into a text file, any ideas?
[10:42] <booger> is it easy to use ?? still a noob
[10:42] <oceandead> there are lots of different ones mustafu, i use gnomebaker
[10:43] <d2dchat> can anyone figure out why my wireless isnt working?
[10:43] <aeruder> hardw1re: apt-cache search . > packagelist.txt or something like that might do it :)
[10:43] <bimberi> WodanTJ: hard to say - there is hardware identification done during the server install and the hardware is different - if it's the only way you can install it's worth a try tho :)
[10:43] <d2dchat> I have a wireless network card, and it picks up networks under windows xp, but when i type iwconfig I get->
[10:43] <WodanTJ> bimberi: yeah i know..
[10:43] <aeruder> booger: not sure, might try vcdtools and/or vcdimager
[10:43] <d2dchat> lo, eth0 and sit0 all saying 'no wireless extentions'
[10:43] <bimberi> mustafu: nautilus, gnomebaker, graveman
[10:44] <WodanTJ> bimberi: but i guess it only puts stuff in the modules-file for me to change it to the right modules, dont you think?
[10:44] <hardw1re> :D
[10:44] <aeruder> booger: and then start reading in /usr/share/doc/vcdtools /usr/share/doc/vcdimager
[10:44] <hardw1re> now i can view all packages for this :D
[10:44] <oceandead> d2dchat try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards to see if your card is supported
[10:44] <booger> ok i'll play with them thanx
[10:45] <kamme> hello, I've got a little problem, every time some screensaver kicks in, it freezes my whole system, ctrl-alt-del and ctrl-alt backspace don't work or anything... is there anything I can do to solve that?
[10:45] <aeruder> kamme: gl screensaver?
[10:45] <amonkey_> are there any trivia channels on freenode
[10:45] <oceandead> if it isn't supported out of the box, you can look for a linux driver module for it or just use ndiswrapper along with the windoze drivers for it
[10:45] <kamme> aeruder: I think so, I'm not sure and I can't look because it freezes on me
[10:46] <bimberi> WodanTJ: sorry, its really outside the limit of my knowledge, but i'd imagine that the kernel is generic and that the differences between hardware is achieved with the choice of modules
[10:46] <aeruder> kamme: xscreensaver-demo
[10:46] <aeruder> kamme: try a non gl one, it is possible gl support is just messed up?
[10:46] <aeruder> (can you run glxgears for example? )
[10:46] <bimberi> WodanTJ: generic after processor family (i386, amd64...) that is :)
[10:46] <WodanTJ> bimberi: yeah should be like that when running i386 kernel
[10:46] <oceandead> aeruder, ever find your xeyes?
[10:46] <WodanTJ> bimberi: aye
[10:46] <aeruder> oceandead: nope *grumble*
[10:46] <d2dchat> oceandead, how do i know which one is mine? I know its a linksys but im not exactly sure which model
[10:47] <aeruder> lspci is sometimes useful if it shows up as a pci device d2dchat
[10:47] <oceandead> d2dchat do an lspci
[10:47] <kamme> aeruder: I didn't change anything with the gl stuff... But the problem is, I can't even change the screensaver, even the screensaver option program freezes everything...
[10:47] <d2dchat> 0000:00:09.0 Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01)
[10:47] <d2dchat> ?
[10:47] <ninjafish> how come all binary distros are compiled for 386, why not compile a 686 version too?
[10:47] <aeruder> kamme: hard locks the entire system?
[10:47] <aeruder> kamme: can you still ssh in ?
[10:47] <oceandead> d2dchat are you on hoary or breezy?
[10:47] <kamme> aeruder: yup
[10:48] <d2dchat> im not sure, how do i find out?
[10:48] <kamme> aeruder: didn't try that, but my guess is no
[10:48] <kamme> aeruder: since even my wlan card stops blinking
[10:48] <aeruder> d2dchat: did you just download a hoary install cd ?
[10:48] <aeruder> kamme: eek
[10:48] <oceandead> youre probably on hoary
[10:48] <JohnP789> I let Synaptic update my kernel, and now my system won't boot Ubuntu.
[10:48] <aeruder> d2dchat: if you weren't on hoary, i'd hope you'd know :)
[10:48] <kamme> aeruder: tell me about it...
[10:48] <oceandead> there are linux driver modules available for the rt2500 on sourceforge
[10:48] <Bjorn`Food> If anybody got wine working under a amd64 hoary say it
[10:48] <Bjorn`Food> :D
[10:48] <JohnP789> I get a kernel panic when it tries to pivot root.
[10:49] <aeruder> JohnP789 have the text somewhere?
[10:49] <aeruder> !paste
[10:49] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:49] <d2dchat> aeruder, I downloaded ubuntu 5.04 from the ubuntu website
[10:49] <d2dchat> the iso file
[10:49] <oceandead> thats hoary
[10:49] <d2dchat> and i installed it witha  boot disk
[10:49] <d2dchat> ok lol
[10:49] <aeruder> JohnP789 try pasting output there if you can (or write it down)
[10:50] <JohnP789> aeruder, I'd have to reboot and write it down.
[10:50] <oceandead> d2dchat try http://rt2500.sourceforge.net    <-im not sure about the link
[10:50] <hal> Hello all
[10:50] <Bjorn`Food> If anybody got wine working under a amd64 hoary say it
[10:50] <TEG`> hi i have a problem with installing NFORCE drivers, he doenst seem to find the right kernel
[10:50] <aeruder> JohnP789 : i think you'd have a hard tiem finding out what is wrong if you didn't at least write down the error message
[10:50] <JohnP789> aeruder, I think initrd isn't being found.
[10:50] <aeruder> JohnP789: you probably don't need the dump information
[10:50] <kamme> another question, what does ubuntu-desktop do?
[10:50] <aeruder> (registers and stacktrace, etc.)
[10:51] <aeruder> kamme: it is just a package that depends on all the other packages needed for a full system
[10:51] <oceandead> d2dchat on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards page there is a link to a how to with rt2500
[10:51] <Bjorn`Food> TEG`,
[10:51] <Bjorn`Food> yo
[10:51] <TEG`> yo
[10:51] <Bjorn`Food> ik ben liquidfire
[10:51] <Bjorn`Food> :D
[10:51] <Bjorn`Food> :p
[10:51] <TEG`> ?
[10:51] <TEG`> vanwaar?
[10:51] <Bjorn`Food> inspire`Liquidfire
[10:51] <aeruder> kamme: apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop
[10:51] <GoClick> What's an acceptable GUI for Samba config? preferably one I can install using Synaptic
[10:51] <Bjorn`Food> cssr
[10:51] <Bjorn`Food> Oo
[10:51] <bimberi> kamme: it's a meta-package that is dependant on lots of packages considered to be a good setup for a desktop
[10:51] <aeruder> kamme: and look at the depends field
[10:51] <TEG`> ah :)
[10:51] <kamme> aeruder: so it can be removed? (that way I can remove xscreensaver-gl too
[10:51] <aeruder> kamme: you could also just disable xscreensaver you know ;)
[10:51] <aeruder> kamme: sure, remove it
[10:51] <JohnP789> aeruder, I realize I'm not giving enough to go on.  I thought maybe it'd be some infamous bug people would recognize right off.
[10:51] <JohnP789> :-)
[10:51] <kamme> okeej
[10:51] <bimberi> kamme: yes
[10:51] <aeruder> kamme: it is just a meta package that pulls in the rest
[10:51] <d2dchat> how is my wireless network card an rt2500 when it is a linksys??
[10:51] <TEG`> kunde gij mij niet helpen met men nforce drivers ? bjorn
[10:52] <morbidi> hello
[10:52] <aeruder> kamme: if you remove it, all the ones it brought in stay around :)
[10:52] <oceandead> rt2500 is the chipset
[10:52] <hal> anyone ever tried to build a kernel package with software suspend2 ?
[10:52] <kamme> thanks, I'll do that and hope it'll help :)
[10:52] <ninjafish> samba-config
[10:52] <aeruder> d2dchat: that's just how it works
[10:52] <morbidi> does anyone knows how to open in firefox a link with a middle click?
[10:52] <morbidi> what do I have to setup in xorg.conf
[10:52] <kamme> ok, trying the option dialog now ;)
[10:52] <d2dchat> aeruder, I dont see any linksys's on that page that are rt2500s
[10:53] <GoClick> ninjafish I don't see it in the list
[10:53] <TEG`> hi i have a problem with installing NFORCE drivers, he doenst seem to find the right kernel??
[10:53] <hal> morbidi, you try to paste an url in firefox, right ?
[10:53] <kamme> aeruder: that solved it.. so if anyone has the same problem you know what to do :)
[10:53] <oceandead> look for the rt2500 link
[10:53] <pauldaoust> crimsun: wow, you're here again! (you're not a dev or admin any chance?)
[10:53] <kamme> thank you aeruder and bimberi
[10:53] <bimberi> kamme: yw :)
[10:54] <GoClick> ninjafish, I added a share by going to system>administration>shared folders and that seems ok but now I've got nothing to configure users with, I tried to connect from my windows box and it asked for a username and password so I put in my Ubuntu ones and it didn't work :/ also I need some config abilities
[10:54] <TEG`> Hi I have a problems with installing NFORCE drivers, he doenst seem to find the right kernel, can any1 help me?
[10:54] <dcraven> d2dchat: Linksys is the card manufacture, rt2500 is probably the chipset they use.
[10:54] <ninjafish> GoClick - hmm I was thinking of another distro
[10:54] <d2dchat> ah, gotcha
[10:54] <GoClick> ninjafish totally ok
[10:55] <pauldaoust> hey, has any one experienced weird, slow, drawn-out sound in Ubuntu?
[10:55] <d2dchat> dcraven, thank you for that clarification:)
[10:55] <dcraven> d2dchat: np
[10:55] <oceandead> yep for instance i use a dwl-650 - chipset is an RTL8180L - frontend is a Phillips sa-2400
[10:55] <GoClick> Know of a Samba config GUI anyone?
[10:55] <topyli> pauldaoust: yes, i listen to that kind of music at work :)
[10:55] <pauldaoust> GoClick: There's SWAT, a web-based GUI
[10:55] <GoClick> SWAT isn't very good :(
[10:55] <aeruder> GoClick: i usually just do it by hand ;)
[10:55] <pauldaoust> topyli: har har har
[10:55] <WodanTJ> oceandead: uh i'm about to install a dwl-650+ :) (those are acx100)
[10:56] <Scrawny1> ok I've been through all the backports, been through all the arcives and I still can't find an upgrade for x-chat to 2.4.4
[10:56] <TEG`> need help with nforce drivers pm me pls
[10:56] <pauldaoust> topyli: where do you work?
[10:56] <pauldaoust> as in, everything (MP3s, WAVs, etc) is about three or four times slower than it should be.
[10:56] <topyli> GoClick: webmin has a pretty good samba tool too
[10:56] <oceandead> wodanTJ, your dwl-650 plus is
[10:56] <GoClick> aeruder I don't mind doing that myself actually but my boss needs to be able to do this too and he's not as techiue
[10:56] <topyli> pauldaoust: the university
[10:56] <WodanTJ> oceandead: yeah and dwl-650 are like prism? some of  them anyways?
[10:56] <aeruder> GoClick: oh, don't know what to tell you then
[10:56] <oceandead> my dwl-650 v.M1 is an rtl8180l
[10:56] <GoClick> I'm not really looking for a web based one
[10:56] <amonkey_> hey
[10:56] <amonkey_> Seveas, are you here?
[10:56] <GoClick> What does Fedora use?
[10:56] <topyli> GoClick: well, that's all you get :)
[10:56] <oceandead> some of them yes....different hardware revisions of the dwl-650 use different chipsets
[10:57] <ninjafish> GoClick, it's fedora that has samba-config
[10:57] <Nitrousinacan> what is the ubuntu archive url?
[10:57] <Scrawny1>  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[10:57] <TEG`> Can Anyone help me with nforce drivers out here?
[10:57] <dcraven> packages.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <GoClick> That's too bad cause I tried Core4 on this machine and the sound didn't work and it couldn't play DVDs :/
[10:58] <Seveas> amonkey, you're in luck - just back :)
[10:58] <aeruder> TEG`: try being a little more clear what is wrong, and pasting some stuff  (like errors you are getting, etc..) on the paste site and pointing people to the url
[10:58] <aeruder> !paste
[10:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:58] <amonkey_> mym audio card supports mixing(at least in windows it did) and now ubuntu can't polay more than oen thing at a time. how do i fix this?
[10:59] <aeruder> TEG`: you'll find you will get much more help if you do as much work on your end as you can ;)
[10:59] <Seveas> amonkey_, use dmix or esd :)
[10:59] <urban> Does anyone know what is happening with http://www.ubuntuguide.org/?  I have tried many times over the last 3 weeks to connect and allways get a timeout ....
[10:59] <Scrawny1> Seveas?
[10:59] <Seveas> ubuntu uses esd by default
[10:59] <ninjafish> GoClick, have you tried looking on the samba pages to see if they have an IRC channel
[10:59] <aeruder> amonkey_: windows does software mixing ;)
[10:59] <LinuxJones> GoClick, have a look at this >> http://ksambakdeplugin.sourceforge.net/
[10:59] <Seveas> Scrawny1, ?
[10:59] <amonkey_> aeruder, i did not know that
[10:59] <Scrawny1> can I talk to ya' a quick sec? :)
[10:59] <Seveas> sure
[10:59] <pauldaoust> soooooo... nobody with incredibly slow sound?
[10:59] <TEG`> He doenst find the right source kernel to install the driver , then the installtion shuts down
[11:00] <aeruder> amonkey_: not many cards have many channels of hardware mixing capabilities
[11:00] <hal> TEG`, have you installed the sources of your krenel ?
[11:00] <hal> kernel
[11:00] <amonkey_> Seveas, as far as i know, i did that. is this an accurate guide to do it:http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Allow_multiple_programs_to_play_sound_at_once
[11:00] <oceandead> i used the happy esd and alsa thread on the forums, also have sox as well
[11:00] <TEG`> the r command i did
[11:00] <Seveas> TEG`, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:00] <TEG`> i did that
[11:00] <TEG`> still doenst work
[11:00] <AntiKris> Howdy
[11:01] <Seveas> amonkey_, ubuntu isn't archlinux...
[11:01] <aeruder> TEG`: and kernel-source-$(uname -r)
[11:01] <hal> TEG`, what is the *exact* error message ?
[11:01] <AntiKris> Sorry, I'm not really an IRCer, so if I'm talking out of turn, please excuse me...
[11:02] <Seveas> AntiKris, welcome :)
[11:02] <aeruder> AntiKris: there aren't turns, you'll fidn that irc'ers are the best multitasker talkers in the world ;)
[11:02] <TEG`> ERROR: Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your kernel; on Red Hat Linux systems, for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' rpm installed. If you know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the kernel source path with the '--kernel-source-path'commandline option. <ok>
[11:02] <amonkey> Seveas, where can i find the relevent guide for ubuntu (Looking myself right now)
[11:02] <Seveas> we don;t take turns here, everybody talks whenever he wants :)
[11:02] <bimberi> AntiKris: it's find - particularly if you're using ubuntu :)
[11:02] <AntiKris> Cool! ;'D
[11:02] <bimberi> *fine
[11:02] <amonkey> Seveas, i think i found it nm
[11:02] <aeruder> TEG`: did you install kernel-source- like i said above?
[11:02] <Seveas> amonkey, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary is nice
[11:02] <Bjorn`Food> AntiKris, so join the club and chat away
[11:02] <TEG`> no ill try it first
[11:02] <Bjorn`Food> you need to give us cake tough :p
[11:02] <Seveas> amonkey, wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems may help too
[11:02] <aeruder> TEG`: because you need the full kernel source to build drivers
[11:03] <Wanderer___> The reason I need to change the resolution is because I can't see any of the text present on the Log-In screen. It's ridiculusly small. Also, the windows are huge and unwieldly, and don't resize themselves to the taskbar at all. When I attempt to do a manual resize, it won't let me 90% of the time.
[11:03] <Bjorn`Food> amonkey, whats your problem ?
[11:03] <Bjorn`Food> I had some problems with sound too
[11:03] <AntiKris> I'm trying install Ubuntu on a separate disk--but the install prog doesn't give me that option
[11:03] <hal> TEG`, you should follow aeruder 's advice, I don't think you've installed the source packaged... Way better than original kernel source tree for the distro
[11:03] <amonkey> Bjorn`Food, only one sound at a time after i move from onboard audio to a pci card
[11:03] <AntiKris> I believe it's because the disk I want to install to is on a separate controller
[11:03] <Seveas> AntiKris, in the manual partitioner it should give you the option to sepcify which disks to use
[11:03] <Bjorn`Food> maybe you should disable your onboard sound in the bios
[11:03] <aeruder> TEG`: sudo apt-get install kernel-source-`uname -r`
[11:04] <TEG`> ye thx ill try that
[11:04] <Bjorn`Food> so that he only picks the pci card
[11:04] <AntiKris> Yeah, I figured it would--but it doesn't see the other disks.  I'm wondering if there's some sort of F6 equivalent I'm supposed to be doing
[11:05] <Seveas> AntiKris, what kind of controller is it?
[11:05] <amonkey> Seveas, after i saved my esd.conf it showed this error in console: ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[11:05] <AntiKris> I've got one of those new p5WD2 mbs from ASUS...  after lapping my heatsink today, I thought I'd go for an encore and figure out linux in, oh, about 3 hours time.
[11:06] <AntiKris> The controller is an IT8211
[11:06] <oceandead> hehehe
[11:07] <AntiKris> In bios, it sees the SATA disk as one of the IDE options, but doesn't want to play nicely with the old Maxtor one I've got lurking on the IDE component of the board... am I screwed?
[11:08] <Seveas> AntiKris, hmm, try whether the installer sees the SATA when you don't have the IDE plugged in
[11:08] <emilio> hello people how do i can enter in the java of canal
[11:08] <aeruder> emilio: /join ##java
[11:08] <emilio> sorry mi englis is bad
[11:09] <emilio> ok thank you
[11:09] <Daehlie> what language
[11:09] <Daehlie> there are multiple
[11:09] <emilio> i speak spanish
[11:09] <aeruder> emilio: /join #ubuntu-es perhaps
[11:09] <Seveas> emilio, #ubuntu-es es la canal espanol
[11:09] <Seveas> (my spanish is terrible)
[11:09] <leonel> whoot   Just upgraded from hoary to  breezy and .. No gnome panel or metacity running after login
[11:09] <emilio> ok
[11:09] <AntiKris> Well, seeing the SATA isn't the problem--it sees both hard disks, when it boots up to Windows...  I've just got the feeling that it picks up the IDE somewhere along the way to booting XP, but doesn't get there yet when running the install
[11:09] <Cuateco> wenazzzzz
[11:09] <AntiKris> (for linux)
[11:09] <emilio> thank you
[11:09] <aeruder> leonel: lots of stuff is still borked :)
[11:10] <oceandead> leonel, i had the same problem
[11:10] <oceandead> fresh install fixed it
[11:10] <oceandead> hehehe
[11:10] <Seveas> AntiKris, hmm, maybe it needs a newer driver oslt, have you tried running a live CD or a breezy install CD?
[11:10] <aeruder> oceandead: i'm kinda up and going
[11:10] <aeruder> minus all the packages that haven't been updated for libcairo2
[11:10] <aeruder> (like gaim, but i just compiled my own)
[11:10] <oceandead> you got everything all sorted aeruder?
[11:10] <leonel> well installed hoary   and  move to breezy
[11:10] <aeruder> oceandead: yeap, took a bit of tweaking
[11:10] <oceandead> nice!
[11:11] <aeruder> oceandead: there were several changes needed to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:11] <AntiKris> I just downloaded the liveDVD yesterday, so it's brand spanking
[11:11] <bz0b> can someone tell me the command i think its an apt-get cause im trying to make && make install my wireless drivers, but it says KERNELPATH must be defined
[11:11] <samu> isnt there another channel for people who are too eager and want to complain about something in breezy that doesnt work for them? :)
[11:11] <aeruder> keyboard driver => kbd, /usr/lib/X11/font all needs to be /usr/share/X11/font...
[11:11] <oceandead> i tried but didnt want to spend too much time on it - got some testing yet to do for laptop
[11:12] <|Gorre|ZzZ> Can anyone tell me a basic system specs I should aim for using Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[11:12] <bz0b> bob2, can you hep me?
[11:12] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: a p2 366 w/ 64 megs of ram ;)
[11:12] <|Gorre|ZzZ> Im new to linux, and want to try it out, but on a spare Pentium 2
[11:12] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: you don't need much to run linux
[11:12] <token> hi there
[11:12] <|Gorre|ZzZ> Marvellous :P
[11:12] <|Gorre|ZzZ> Thanks
[11:12] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: my old linux machine was a celeron 366 w/ 64 megs of ram
[11:12] <bz0b> bob2, im trying to make my wireless drivers and i get an error root@bz0b:/usr/src/madwifi-cvs-20050814# make && make install
[11:12] <bz0b> Makefile.inc:94: *** KERNELPATH must be defined.  Stop.
[11:12] <aeruder> of course, it was debian, but.. yea, it'll be slow on some stuff( like openoffice )
[11:13] <|Gorre|ZzZ> No worries then :P
[11:13] <oceandead> gnome will be a bit slow on 64mb ram, might want to try xfce or fluxbox on that
[11:13] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: but it is more than enough to run X and lots of apps
[11:13] <|Gorre|ZzZ> I have like, 190~ RAM in my P2 machine, so I should be okay
[11:13] <|Gorre|ZzZ> But I think it's a 266
[11:13] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: heck, i couldeven play quake 2 and quake 3 with a nvidia card ;)
[11:13] <token> could I ask how do you change your charset on whole system?  I have Iso-8859-1 and I need to have Iso-8859-2 or UTF
[11:13] <token> is there a way?
[11:13] <token> thank you
[11:13] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: yea, you'll be more than good
[11:13] <token> go for fluxbox
[11:13] <token> or blackbox
[11:14] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: yes, don't use kde or gnome, that will make it feel much slower
[11:14] <token> I recommend fluxbox as I run it on my old laptop and it runs just fine
[11:14] <|Gorre|ZzZ> So use a command line thingy?
[11:14] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: xfce is faster, but i'd recommend fluxbox or blackbox, they'll make it fly
[11:14] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: or even windowmaker
[11:14] <oceandead> <- k6-2 @ 400mhz, 192mb ram can run gnome but xfce is better for me and i like it better than fluxbox
[11:14] <|Gorre|ZzZ> Ah right
[11:14] <topyli> |Gorre|ZzZ: RAM is what counts, not the cpu really, and you should be ok. if gnome is slow, use xfce or something light
[11:14] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: no, you can use X-windows, just don't use kde and gnome desktops if you can help it
[11:14] <|Gorre|ZzZ> Ah right
[11:14] <token> could I ask how do you change your charset on whole system?  I have Iso-8859-1 and I need to have Iso-8859-2 or UTF
[11:15] <|Gorre|ZzZ> Well, I havent even touched linux before, so what do you think would be best?
[11:15] <oceandead> xfce
[11:15] <topyli> token: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:15] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: if xfce runs well enough, try it
[11:15] <FunnyLookinHat> is there an INSTALL CD command to boot to install 2.6 instead of 2.4 or shoudl IJust hit enter?
[11:15] <vitriol> if i build my own kernel from vanilla sources will it work? or do i need to do some special tricks?
[11:15] <|Gorre|ZzZ> I'll give it a shot, ta.
[11:15] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: otherwise try windowmaker or blackbox or something
[11:15] <Flonne> FunnyLookinHat, Ubuntu only has 2.6.
[11:15] <|Gorre|ZzZ> I think I'll stay around here too though, just incase :P
[11:15] <aeruder> |Gorre|ZzZ: there's plenty of window managers that will run great on that machine
[11:15] <AntiKris> Well, thanks folks--I'm going to check out some bios forums!  Later!
[11:16] <hal> token, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:16] <aeruder> vitriol: you don't need special tricks
[11:16] <token> tyopyli, hal: thank you
[11:16] <|Gorre|ZzZ> This is gonna seem like a silly question
[11:16] <vitriol> aeruder: hello again )
[11:16] <|Gorre|ZzZ> But how would I install a new desktop thingy?
[11:16] <vitriol> :)
[11:16] <vitriol> aeruder: i'm building the kernel right now
[11:16] <aeruder> vitriol: just make sure you get that ide and filesystem driver in ;) (and of course the other hardware stuff as modules or built in)
[11:16] <vitriol> aeruder: just afraid it won't boot, that's all
[11:16] <Wanderer___> Do I need to change the screen resolution?  Because I can't see any of the text present on the Log-In screen. It's ridiculusly small. Also, the windows are huge and unwieldly, and don't resize themselves to the taskbar at all. When I attempt to do a manual resize, it won't let me 90% of the time.
[11:16] <|Gorre|ZzZ> Just stick in the disk I burned it to after installing Ubuntu?
[11:16] <aeruder> vitriol: keep your old kernel around
[11:16] <vitriol> aeruder: when i tried this on debian it didn't work
[11:16] <aeruder> vitriol: building kernels is an art, you get better at it each time
[11:17] <aeruder> vitriol: it used to take me several tries to get it right ;)
[11:17] <aeruder> vitriol: you built ide and fs drivers INTO the kernel?
[11:17] <vitriol> aeruder: the problem on debian was just that there was no initrd
[11:17] <vitriol> aeruder: thats right
[11:17] <Wanderer___> Do I need to change the screen resolution?  Because I can't see any of the text present on the Log-In screen. It's ridiculusly small. Also, the windows are huge and unwieldly, and don't resize themselves to the taskbar at all. When I attempt to do a manual resize, it won't let me 90% of the time.
[11:17] <aeruder> vitriol: ok, you don't need a initrd then
[11:17] <oceandead> go into synaptic and look for it - or   sudo apt-get install xfce4       for xfce
[11:17] <vitriol> wonderful
[11:17] <aeruder> vitriol: does your grub line have a root=/dev/blah
[11:17] <hal> anyone tried the software suspend on an Ubuntu kernel here ?
[11:17] <aeruder> vitriol: or something like root=LABEL=/
[11:17] <oceandead> then you can log out and log in - click sessions, and choose xfce session
[11:18] <oceandead> before you login that is
[11:18] <vitriol> aeruder:
[11:18] <vitriol> oops
[11:18] <rickity> how does one mount a usb harddrive? how does one configure hotplug to automatically mount a usb mass storage device?
[11:18] <aeruder> Wanderer___: paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:18] <aeruder> !paste
[11:18] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:18] <GoClick> Do you guys figure it would be possible to use the samba configuration gui thing from Fedora on Ubuntu?
[11:18] <vitriol> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro console=tty0 quiet splash
[11:18] <aeruder> rickity: i usually just plug it in and mount the /dev/sda# entries that show up ;)
[11:18] <vitriol> aeruder: ^
[11:19] <aeruder> vitriol: yep, you will not need an initrd, get rid of the splash and quiet lines tho
[11:19] <vitriol> great!
[11:19] <Wanderer___> Where would I find that file?
[11:19] <vitriol> aeruder: thanks for the tip
[11:19] <aeruder> Wanderer___: i just told you /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:19] <aeruder> paste the contents of that file into the website given by the bot
[11:19] <rickt> any pointers on how to change a deb file to change the dependencies.  it seems that some packages need to refer to libcairo2 now.  i'd rather just build from source if i have to wait. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58451&highlight=vim-gnome
[11:19] <Wanderer___> In which OS? Ubuntu, Windows?
[11:19] <JohnP789> OK, I've rebooted and copied down some messages leading up to my kernel panic.
[11:19] <aeruder> Wanderer___: ubuntu
[11:20] <rickity> aeruder, what if no /dev/sda# appears?
[11:20] <JohnP789> They're going in the pastebin.
[11:20] <aeruder> Wanderer___: your windows logs will do no good here ;)
[11:20] <aeruder> rickity: run dmesg and see if it found anything
[11:20] <aeruder> JohnP789: good
[11:20] <Wanderer___> I can't! I can't connect to the net from Ubuntu (don't know how).
[11:20] <somedude_> Hey!
[11:20] <somedude_> remember me? ;)
[11:20] <somedude_> well anyways..
[11:21] <aeruder> Wanderer___: wireless or wired?
[11:21] <JohnP789> I'm thinking it's some kind of LVM problem.  My root is on an LVM logical volume, but that volume group is not showing up on boot.
[11:21] <Wanderer___> Wired dail-up.
[11:21] <aeruder> Wanderer___: ah
[11:21] <Liquidfire> Is there a sort of control panel for nvidia cards in linux as there is in windows ?
[11:21] <aeruder> Wanderer___: i don't know what they use now for ppp stuff
[11:21] <aeruder> Liquidfire: nvidia-settings
[11:21] <aeruder> Liquidfire: you may need the package installed ;)
[11:21] <d2dchat> Where is the php4-mysql apt?
[11:21] <somedude_> i want to ssh to my ubuntu installation! Wheer do i eneable that?? in slackware i enabled it by copying rc.sshd to my  /etc/rc.d/ folder.. how do i do that with UBUNTU?
[11:22] <Liquidfire> aeruder,  where and how :)
[11:22] <rickity> aeruder, lsusb shows its connected: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1006:3004 iRiver, Ltd.
[11:22] <d2dchat> i tried running->
[11:22] <Liquidfire> i didn't update it via the syn thingy
[11:22] <d2dchat> apt-get install php4-mysql
[11:22] <d2dchat> but it couldnt find the package
[11:22] <bimberi> somedude_: install openssh-server
[11:22] <Liquidfire> because i would get a blackscreen
[11:22] <JohnP789> Anybody have any ideas how to fix this?
[11:22] <hal> somedude_, tou first need to install the sshd package
[11:22] <hal> somedude_, sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:22] <somedude_> ok, how?.. an easy way?
[11:22] <somedude_> ok hal, thanks!
[11:23] <somedude_> after that its ok?
[11:23] <hal> somedude_, then it should work
[11:23] <somedude_> sweet
[11:23] <somedude_> many thanks
[11:23] <somedude_> brb ;)
[11:23] <aeruder> Liquidfire: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[11:23] <Liquidfire> ah lol the - did it
[11:24] <Liquidfire> :D
[11:24] <Liquidfire> i tried nvidiasettings
[11:24] <rickity> anyone know how to mount a usb mass storage device given the information from lsusb:  Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1006:3004 iRiver, Ltd.
[11:24] <Grat> Liquidfire: next time use apt-cache search to search for packets :>
[11:24] <Wanderer___> BTW, is it a bad sign if windows checks your C-Disk for integrity, then applies corrections to it? I had just installed Ubuntu. I then logged out, and switched to windows. Then it said that. When it loaded the desktop, it also said it was finished installing new hardware and needed to reboot. WTF?
[11:24] <Liquidfire> Grat, oke
[11:24] <Liquidfire> :)
[11:24] <bimberi> d2dchat: php4-mysql is in the universe repository
[11:24] <bimberi> !repos
[11:24] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:24] <Liquidfire> and what if i installed it
[11:24] <Liquidfire> how do i launch it ?
[11:24] <aeruder> Liquidfire: run nvidia-settings
[11:25] <hardw1re> !nvidia
[11:25] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[11:25] <aeruder> with your favorite friend the terminal
[11:25] <Wanderer___> aeruder?
[11:25] <Liquidfire> aeruder, i know via the terminal
[11:25] <Liquidfire> but what command
[11:25] <rickity> anyone know how to mount a usb mass storage device given the information from lsusb:  Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1006:3004 iRiver, Ltd.
[11:25] <Liquidfire> =/
[11:25] <aeruder> Wanderer___: windows is fscked up, that's all i can say about that ;)
[11:25] <JohnP789> I posted an amendment in pastebin.  My LVM setup seems OK over in FC3 on this machine.
[11:26] <d2dchat> bimberi, how do i access that?
[11:26] <aeruder> Wanderer___: you need to get that file, or get connected in linux
[11:26] <bimberi> d2dchat: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:26] <aeruder> Wanderer___: it is going to be nearly impossible to get help when you have to reboot to do it
[11:26] <aeruder> Wanderer___: so find an ubuntu guide for dialup (www.google.com is your friend) figure that uot first
[11:26] <rickity> anyone have a good link on how exactly the whole usb mass storage detection and mounting works in ubuntu?
[11:26] <aeruder> get into linux on the inet, then figure out the screen res :)
[11:27] <aeruder> rickity: usually dmesg prints out where it is putting it
[11:27] <aeruder> (like sda, sdb, etc...)
[11:27] <JohnP789> aeruder, Would you have any suggestions?
[11:27] <BTJustice> I had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?
[11:28] <somedude_> hal, it worked perfectly! THANKS!!!!!!!
[11:28] <hardw1re> hey, i reconfigured my xorg earlier
[11:28] <aeruder> !paste
[11:28] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:28] <aeruder> JohnP789: one sec
[11:28] <hardw1re> and nvidia now has this option in it: Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
[11:28] <hardw1re> anyone know what that is?
[11:28] <hal> somedude_, great then ;-)
[11:28] <aeruder> JohnP789: my initial guess would be corrupted initrd
[11:28] <rickity> aeruder does hotplug do it automatically?
[11:29] <aeruder> JohnP789: use the old kernel or compile your  own
[11:29] <topyli> hardw1re: it's the framebuffer device, for prettier console and higher console resolutions
[11:29] <rickity> aeruder, does hotplug automatically detect and assign a /dev/sda# for a usb device?
[11:29] <aeruder> JohnP789: there have been plenty of people with kernel problems the last couple days
[11:29] <aeruder> rickity: well, a combination of hotplug and udev, yes
[11:29] <JohnP789> aeruder, There's no old kernel in /boot, unfortunately.
[11:29] <aeruder> JohnP789: got a rescue cd?
[11:29] <aeruder> JohnP789: even a knoppix cd can be used as a recuse cd
[11:29] <bimberi> Wanderer___: dialup config is at System -> Administration -> Networking.  This assumes your modem is working (which can be an issue if it's a "winmodem").  To reconfigure resolution try logging at a virtual console (<ctrl><alt>F2), logging in and typing "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:29] <JohnP789> aeruder, Ubuntu Live.
[11:30] <aeruder> JohnP789: and compile a new kernel
[11:30] <aeruder> JohnP789: ok, well boot to that
[11:30] <aeruder> mount your root fs somewhere
[11:30] <aeruder> mount -o bind /dev /whre/your/root/is/dev
[11:30] <somedude_> hal, yupp! in slack i had a command "smb-client" anything like that in UBUNTU?
[11:30] <aeruder> mount -o bind /proc /where/your/root/is/proc
[11:30] <rickity> aeruder is there a way I can force hotplug/udev to check for new usb devs and mount them?
[11:30] <aeruder> cd /where/your/root/is
[11:30] <aeruder> chroot .
[11:30] <aeruder> su -
[11:30] <hal> somedude_, smbclient ?
[11:30] <somedude_> yeah
[11:30] <somedude_> for mounting win shares
[11:30] <hardw1re> ok, topyli does that effect things like cedega?
[11:31] <hal> somedude_, sudo apt-get install smbclient
[11:31] <somedude_> u rule hal!! :)
[11:31] <aeruder> rickity: uh, well, shouldn't need to
[11:31] <BTJustice> I had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?
[11:31] <aeruder> rickity: if you see nothing in dmesg output about it
[11:31] <aeruder> rickity: (you can feel free to unplug/plug and check)
[11:31] <bimberi> somedude_: you probably already have it - smbclient is part of the basic desktop install
[11:31] <Liquidfire> BTJustice,  you need to set alsamixer
[11:32] <aeruder> rickity: usually that is bad, because i know the mass storage stuff used to spam junk all over with kernel messages :)
[11:32] <somedude_> hal, if i want to update a package from the internet, is there a special command? Now it installs from the cdrom
[11:32] <hal> somedude_, you can use the following command when you search a package: "apt-cache search smbclient" for example (without the " of course)
[11:32] <JohnP789> aeruder, Can I just do an apt-get upgrade on my kernel package once I've chrooted?
[11:32] <Ice9> can anybody tell me why dvd playback is choppy? I have dma enabled, and I've tried several players.
[11:32] <BTJustice> Liquidfire: If I type 'alsamixer' I get nothing.
[11:32] <rickity> aeruder, i guess I'm not sure what to look for in dmesg
[11:32] <somedude_> and i did a server install
[11:32] <Liquidfire> open your terminal BTJustice and type alsamixer
[11:32] <Liquidfire> huh :o
[11:32] <aeruder> JohnP789: yes, if you get chroot'd (and mount your dev and proc int there first)
[11:32] <Liquidfire> try alsamixer -c 1
[11:32] <bimberi> somedude_: ok :) have another!
[11:32] <aeruder> JohnP789: you should be able to manage getting a more or less full ubuntu system inside of knoppix sorta ;)
[11:33] <BTJustice> Liguidfire:  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[11:33] <topyli> hardw1re: i don't think so, it shouldn't interfere with X
[11:33] <aeruder> JohnP789: i do this a lot to do development on several different distros
[11:33] <Liquidfire> wierd
[11:33] <JohnP789> aeruder, OK, I'll give that a try.  (I'll boot from my Ubuntu Live CD.  My install is x86_64, so I'd think Knoppix would be a problem.)
[11:33] <somedude_> bimberi, haha.. im home now.. no more whiskey here! ;)
[11:33] <aeruder> rickity: i don't have a usb mass storage to mess around with... :-/
[11:33] <aeruder> rickity: eh, one sec
[11:33] <bimberi> somedude_: :)
[11:33] <somedude_> =)
[11:34] <chrissturm> does beagle in breezy index openoffice files=
[11:34] <Liquidfire> BTJustice,
[11:34] <rickity> aeruder, thanks a 10^6
[11:34] <Liquidfire> try this wiki
[11:34] <d2dchat> concerning the configuration of apache, what is my groupname?
[11:34] <BTJustice> Liquidfire: Yes?
[11:34] <d2dchat> my server name?
[11:34] <Liquidfire> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:34] <patricia> Hi
[11:34] <WodanTJ> patricia: Hi
[11:34] <Ice9> can anybody tell me why dvd playback is choppy? I have dma enabled, and I've tried several players.
[11:34] <Liquidfire> is it possible to make a shortcut to the nvidia-settings on the desktop ?
[11:34] <bimberi> somedude_: if you only want net installs, comment out the "deb cd-rom" line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:35] <aeruder> Liquidfire: no idea ;)
[11:35] <somedude_> sweet! thanks
[11:35] <aeruder> Liquidfire: i don't have desktop icons.. so ;)
[11:35] <bimberi> somedude_: then "sudo apt-get update"
[11:35] <Liquidfire> I don't mind
[11:35] <hal> somedude_, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:35] <lvraab> Ice9: have you tried Ogle??
[11:35] <Patolin3000> Ice9: try to install totem-xine
[11:35] <Liquidfire> i've got 4 working things to fuck up
[11:35] <Liquidfire> so
[11:35] <Liquidfire> ;D
[11:35] <somedude_> ok, checking
[11:35] <WodanTJ> Liquidfire: did it become 2 small things after that lovely time?
[11:36] <somedude_> i feel bad asking, but how whats the uncomment thingie mark - #?
[11:36] <aeruder> ok, rickity
[11:36] <bimberi> somedude_: yep
[11:36] <Liquidfire> huh WodanTJ  :p?
[11:36] <somedude_> ok, thansk AGAIN!
[11:36] <aeruder> rickity: look in /sys/block/ for a sd* block device
[11:36] <aeruder> rickity: after plugging it in
[11:36] <WodanTJ> Liquidfire: well if you get 4 to make love then perhaps they get 2 children.. that would be beautiful
[11:36] <dishfish> ahh, on #ubuntu
[11:36] <Liquidfire> lol WodanTJ
[11:36] <bob_too> any trick to tftpd-hpa? netstat -apn |grep ":69 " does nada (breezy colony3)
[11:37] <Liquidfire> darn you linux humor !
[11:37] <Liquidfire> :)
[11:37] <gummel> huhu
[11:37] <rickity> aeruder, no such files
[11:37] <Patolin3000> Ice9: or try to reduce the color deph in the X's
[11:37] <dishfish> any south africans here?
[11:37] <aeruder> rickity: no /sys/block ?
[11:37] <rickity> ls /sys/block/sda* is null
[11:37] <BTJustice> Liquidfire: I tried the General Fix on that website.  Still no dice.
[11:37] <dishfish> i've been working on skolelinux.... basically there's one problem
[11:37] <aeruder> rickity: no sd anything
[11:37] <aeruder> ?
[11:37] <bimberi> dishfish: no - only depressed aussie rugby fans :)
[11:38] <aeruder> rickity: lsmod show usb_storage module ?
[11:38] <rickity> aeruder, /sys/block exists...ram* and d* exist...no sda
[11:38] <aeruder> rickity: (lsmod | grep usb_storage)
[11:38] <d2dchat> how do you configure groupnames in apache?
[11:38] <rickity> aeruder, neg...only usb_core
[11:38] <dishfish> ubuntu + shuttleworth have some prestigious education and scientific software on tehm (scientific probly imported from Irix)
[11:38] <othernoob> how do i convert a .wmv file to mpeg so i can play it in a dvdplayer?
[11:38] <d2dchat> i didnt think i belonged to a groupname
[11:38] <rickity> aeruder, sorry usbcore
[11:38] <aeruder> rickity: hrmm, try loading usb_storage (sudo modprobe usb_storage)
[11:38] <dishfish> i'd like to merge them fully with Debian
[11:39] <aeruder> othernoob: isntall mplayer and mencoder, although i'm not sure there are packages for those ..
[11:39] <rickity> aeruder, now its loaded
[11:39] <bz0b> can someone help me out really quick?
[11:39] <othernoob> aeruder: and then?
[11:39] <aeruder> othernoob: rtfm ;)
[11:39] <aeruder> othernoob: they've got several examples at the bottom of the mplayer manpage
[11:40] <aeruder> othernoob: of how to use mencoder
[11:40] <dishfish> i'm stationed with my project in Kenya, but south africans would be a great help, since the distance between south africa and Kenya is substantially smaller than say, between my present location Finland and kenya
[11:40] <bz0b> Im trying to make menuconfig and it poped up this blue thing, cause Im trying to install my madwifi drivers for wireless card can someone please help me?
[11:40] <pauldaous1> crimsun: you there?
[11:40] <othernoob> aeruder: ok
[11:40] <aeruder> rickity: ok, i guess try unplugging/plugging in a gain
[11:40] <aeruder> see if you get any new /sys/block devices :)
[11:40] <aeruder> (make sure lsmod shows it btw)
[11:40] <rickity> aeruder, tried it..still no sys/block/sdas
[11:40] <Ice9> Patolin3000, still nothing :/
[11:40] <bz0b> hello
[11:41] <bz0b> is no one going to help me :-(
[11:41] <rickity> aeruder, I wonder why usbstorage wasn't installed by defrault
[11:41] <gsuveg> where is the GENERIC kernel config of ubuntu kernel ? maybe it help bz0b
[11:41] <Patolin3000> Ice9: what you do?
[11:41] <aeruder> rickity: it should be if it is recognized as being supported
[11:41] <aeruder> rickity: mine autoloads
[11:41] <aeruder> rickity: so it could be that either your usb system is just fscked up somehow
[11:41] <aeruder> rickity: or there's just somethign strange about that usb disk
[11:42] <Ice9> Patolin3000 I tried totem-xine and reducing my color to 16 bits
[11:42] <BTJustice> I had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?
[11:42] <dishfish> or, i mean Ubuntu as a custom Debian should share repositories, have the same development standard etc.
[11:42] <aeruder> rickity: you can dig around in /sys/bus/usb and perhaps find some more information on it
[11:42] <Patolin3000> Ice9: do you have the DMA on?
[11:42] <lvraab> Ice9: try Ogle
[11:42] <aeruder> rickity: but that is sometimes a bit difficult
[11:42] <Concord_Dawn> ermm
[11:42] <Mr-Data> Question: I recently did some upgrades that were recommended by Ubuntu Upgrade Manager. I'm not sure whether this is a coincidence, but now epiphany refuses to accept a letter "t" in the location bar or the search box, or in forms. But, if I bring up a Find dialog box or an Add Bookmark dialog box, the "T" works fine. It also works fine in other applications. Any thoughts?
[11:42] <Concord_Dawn> can someone please remove Guest86119?
[11:42] <Ice9> lvraab, I did
[11:42] <Concord_Dawn> [17:42:22] Guest86119      280    //Server Irc.ArabMirc.Net 280 Bots Are Free Just Jor Registering A Chan The Best Sever Have Been Ever Built !!!! :)  by:  Lebanon <--- he pasted me that.
[11:42] <dishfish> it wouldbe a lot easier to implement solutions on Ubuntu if it was 1000% debian -compatible
[11:42] <Tarcastil> hey, is there a way to search for packages based on the maintainer?
[11:42] <rickity> aeruder, thats what I thought (should be automatic)...oh well..I'll keep digging..thanks a lot for your help
[11:43] <hal> so no specialist of ubuntu on laptop here ?
[11:43] <Ice9> Patolin3000 It says dma is enabled, but the symptons are like dma isn't..
[11:43] <Concord_Dawn> hal: join #ubuntu-laptop for that.
[11:43] <gsuveg> anybody know how can i play mov ? im compiled xine and installed mplayer with win32codecs. and dont play 'new' mov
[11:43] <aeruder> rickity: /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1:1.0/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0
[11:43] <Concord_Dawn> Can anyone tell me how to make something startup on startup?
[11:43] <hal> thanks Concord_Dawn
[11:43] <aeruder> rickity: that's where i found my entry for my usb device ;) might be able to use the output of lsusb to get to the right place
[11:44] <aeruder> rickity: there are lots of files in there that may help figure out how it is detecting it etc.. but i don't know a ton about it
[11:44] <BTJustice> Whenever the sound system starts, I get this error:  device /dev/dsp can't be opened.
[11:44] <Grat> Concord_Dawn put a symlink into one of the RC directorys?
[11:44] <bz0b> can anyone tell me what to do in this blue screen that poped up after i typed make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux
[11:44] <Patolin3000> Ice9: do you try Xine? not totem-xine
[11:44] <aeruder> bz0b: configure your kernel
[11:44] <Ice9> yes, I tried xine first, its my favorite
[11:44] <Concord_Dawn> Grat, ?
[11:44] <bz0b> aeruder, can you tell me the generic kernel config?
[11:45] <Mr-Data> I thought my keyboard was broken, but it's not. ;>
[11:45] <aeruder> bz0b: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
[11:45] <Patolin3000> Icew: what kind of machine have?
[11:45] <gsuveg> aeruder: he is newbye. it help to get the generic kernel config
[11:45] <Grat> Concord_Dawn what would you like to run on startup?
[11:45] <Concord_Dawn> Firestarter.
[11:45] <Ice9> its a p4 3.06 ghz, 3 gigs of ram
[11:45] <aeruder> bz0b: compiling and configuring your kernel isn't a trivial thing
[11:45] <aeruder> gsuveg: i'll leave that as an exercise to him ;)
[11:46] <Concord_Dawn> it needs root privileges.
[11:46] <gsuveg> aeruder: ok
[11:46] <aeruder> i have strong faith that he can figure it out ;)
[11:46] <WodanTJ> aeruder: imo you should never have to compile your own kernel
[11:46] <aeruder> WodanTJ: oh, and why do you say that?
[11:46] <WodanTJ> not to fix anything. only to finetune
[11:46] <aeruder> WodanTJ: yes, this is true, unless you need to patch, or fix a distro blunder
[11:46] <WodanTJ> aeruder: since they are made to be as flexible as possible
[11:46] <aeruder> or any other number of things
[11:46] <gsuveg> bz0b: good luck
[11:46] <aeruder> (including kernel devel)
[11:46] <Grat> Concord_Dawn: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7812.html
[11:47] <WodanTJ> aeruder: yeah well recompile the module that fscks it up?
[11:47] <sorin> hello...
[11:47] <Grat> that will probably help :>
[11:47] <Grat> ellow sorin
[11:47] <Concord_Dawn> thanks Grat
[11:47] <sorin> i have a question about this distro: .....
[11:47] <Patolin3000> Ice9: try to chose another video driver in the xine options
[11:47] <sorin> why dosen't it include more software on the CD's ?
[11:47] <aeruder> WodanTJ: or compile into the kernel
[11:48] <mjr> sorin, it's full already
[11:48] <Grat> sorin: it has most things you need. for more things it would probably need more cds
[11:48] <aeruder> WodanTJ: i do kernel development, so i tend to prefer the compiling route ;)
[11:48] <Patolin3000> Ice9:maybe the X11 driver
[11:48] <ninjafish> sorin, because people do not want 12 versions of every type of software
[11:48] <Patolin3000> Ice9: or OpenGL
[11:48] <ninjafish> its too confusing
[11:48] <sorin> full ?.. i've just writen mine and it's at 590 MB
[11:48] <Ice9> Patolin3000, I don't have either of those :/
[11:48] <WodanTJ> aeruder: yeah but for end user you shouldn't make them recompile the kernel :)
[11:49] <ninjafish> sorin it is easier to support
[11:49] <Grat> sorin what would you like to have on the CD?
[11:49] <sedat> hi all my microphone doesnt work is there any suggestion to fix
[11:49] <sorin> I don't need 12 versions...
[11:49] <Patolin3000> Ice9: inthe options of xine
[11:49] <Patolin3000> Ice9:or in the options of Mplayer
[11:49] <ninjafish> sorin and kde is not there
[11:49] <mjr> oh yeah, hoary had a bit space left; breezy was stuffed
[11:49] <sorin> ninjafish: whell you're right ...
[11:49] <lvraab> sedat: is it a software problem??
[11:49] <BTJustice> I had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?
[11:49] <BTJustice> Whenever the sound system starts, I get this error:  device /dev/dsp can't be opened.
[11:49] <Ice9> Patolin3000, I see the list of drivers, but those 2 aren't there
[11:49] <BTJustice> alsamixer brings up nothing
[11:50] <sedat> I am not sure how can sure it
[11:50] <sorin> ninjafish: but i am talking about the software you need to download from the net if you want to install thigs after the distro instal
[11:50] <Patolin3000> Ice9: try other
[11:50] <FunnyLookinHat> if I need to change the Option "MonitorLayout" etc. etc. setting, where is that file?
[11:50] <Grat> sorin: like what software? give an example
[11:50] <Phr0stByte> <-----------Trashed his system trying to upgrade to Breezy
[11:50] <Phr0stByte> hahahaha
[11:51] <Cletus> sorin: download how? via apt?
[11:51] <lvraab> sedat: find a sound recorder/editing program and see if you can record from the mic
[11:51] <lvraab> sedat: e.g. Audacity
[11:51] <sedat> no I cant
[11:51] <ninjafish> sorin, give an example of something you needed that was not there on the cd
[11:51] <sorin> Grat:  whell i had ubuntu installed a last week ... and i wanted to install something and it began downloading part of it from the net
[11:51] <lvraab> sedat: why not??
[11:51] <sorin> ninjafish: I don't remember...
[11:51] <sedat> I tried to use skype
[11:51] <sedat> but it couldnt
[11:51] <pauldaous1> hey, folks, I have the most BIZARRRRRE problem you've ever seen. Any sound I play (doesn't matter if it's a WAV or MP3, or through OSS or ALSA) is SSSSSLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW... I just tried to play a song by Coldplay and it sounded like a horror movie soundtrack.
[11:51] <pauldaous1> (had a good laugh)
[11:51] <FunnyLookinHat> if I need to change the Option "MonitorLayout" etc. etc. setting, where is that file?
[11:52] <sorin> ninjafish: I'm about to install ubuntu right now and i'll tell you when i'm done
[11:52] <Patolin3000> Ice9: do you have 32-bit option on in your DVD?
[11:52] <WodanTJ> pauldaous1: well.. coldplay sux :)
[11:52] <pauldaous1> 0000:00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 20)
[11:52] <pauldaous1> (that's the relevant line from lspci output)
[11:52] <pauldaous1> WodanTJ: them's fighting words
[11:52] <sedat> it doesnt work
[11:52] <WodanTJ> pauldaous1: words of zombies!
[11:52] <ninjafish> sorin the formats such as mp3 dvd flash java etc are not all there due to licencing restrictions
[11:52] <ninjafish> same with some drivers
[11:52] <sorin> sedat: skype dosen't work with alsa...
[11:52] <Grat> sorin: you cant have all the software on the cd, so of course you have to download it from the web
[11:52] <Ice9> Patolin3000 how do I check?
[11:52] <pauldaous1> so nobody's experienced slow, drawn-out audio playback?
[11:53] <lvraab> sedat: have you tried using other programs to see if your mic is dead??
[11:53] <Ice9> Patolin3000 when I put in a dvd, shouldn't it say dvd, and not cdrom0?
[11:53] <Cletus> ninjafish: how do I get that stuff to work?  I ditched RH because they stopped supporting mp3
[11:53] <Patolin3000> Ice9: hdparm /dev/hd(the leter of you dvd)
[11:53] <sedat> lvraab: I tried it with ubuntus sound recorder and I had nothing
[11:53] <sorin> sedat: what do you have ... gnome or kde ?
[11:53] <lvraab> sedat: if your mic work in another program, then it's skype's problem
[11:53] <lvraab> *works
[11:53] <ninjafish> Cletus there is a link on the ubuntu wiki - restricted formats
[11:53] <esc_ape> red hat stopped supporting mp3?
[11:53] <sorin> ninjafish: i'll get back to you after the install ...
[11:53] <Patolin3000> Ice9: in my case is hdparm /dev/hdc
[11:53] <sedat> sorin: gnome
[11:54] <Cletus> they did for a while esc_ape
[11:54] <WodanTJ> esc_ape: he must mean fedora
[11:54] <Cletus> thanks ninjafish
[11:54] <esc_ape> oh
[11:54] <sorin> sedat: and what is exactly the problem
[11:54] <Cletus> yeah, sorry "fedora"
[11:54] <ninjafish> mp3 is a restricted format,
[11:54] <Ice9> Patolin3000 IO_support =0(default 16 bit)
[11:54] <sorin> sedat: dose it say something about no sound ?
[11:54] <ErniePantusso> fedora stopped supporting mp3?
[11:54] <Concord_Dawn> hmm...
[11:54] <sedat> sorin: I couldnt use my microphone
[11:54] <Patolin3000> Ice9: you have to turn on
[11:54] <Ice9> how do I do that?
[11:55] <sedat> sorin: no it doesnt
[11:55] <dishfish> "the software business is binary, 1 or 0, alive or dead - it scales don't you think"
[11:55] <sedat> sorin: no error
[11:55] <johnio> hey everybody: could anybody give me some pointers about getting nvidia driver working for colony 3
[11:55] <lvraab> sedatL is your mic volume turned all the way up??
[11:55] <Grat> damn, i wish i would have patented binary :>
[11:55] <sorin> sedat: so it dosen't say anithing .... ??
[11:56] <sedat> lvraab: yes it is
[11:56] <sorin> sedat: people just can't hear you ?
[11:56] <Patolin3000> ice9: sudo hdparm -c 1 /dev/hdX (the X is the leter of you DVD)
[11:56] <sedat> sorin: yes they cant
[11:56] <lvraab> heh
[11:56] <BTJustice> I had a Creative SB Live! 7.1 sound card, but it gave me so many problems that I got rid of it.  I just put my old Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card back in.  What do I need to do to get it to work in Kubuntu?
[11:56] <BTJustice> Whenever the sound system starts, I get this error:  device /dev/dsp can't be opened.
[11:56] <BTJustice> alsamixer brings up nothing
[11:56] <sedat> sorin: also I tried it with sound recorder in ubuntu but I cant hear anything
[11:56] <Ice9> okay
[11:56] <sorin> sedat: could you explain exactly what the problem is then ?
[11:56] <lvraab> :-/
[11:56] <Ice9> do I have to restart? or will it be in effect?
[11:57] <sorin> sedat: so it's the mic's fault ?
[11:57] <Patolin3000> Ice9: no, then you try totem or xine or werever
[11:57] <sedat> no I think device is okey because I can use it under windows
[11:57] <token> is there a reason why isn't either xv or xnview in the list of synaptic?
[11:57] <Grat> sorin: it could be the mic, cable, motherboard or ubuntu
[11:57] <Grat> :>
[11:58] <leo_> i am newbies in linux
[11:58] <Grat> but since it works under windows it is ubuntu :>
[11:58] <Tarcastil> what's up with Guest86119?
[11:58] <sedat> sorin: no I think device is okey because I can use it under windows
[11:58] <Grat> ellow leo_ :>
[11:58] <Tarcastil> it's a bot that keeps annoying me if I open or close this channel
[11:58] <sorin> sedat: have you checked in alsamixer ??
[11:58] <Grat> HEY OPS
[11:58] <Grat> Guest86119 SPAMMER!
[11:58] <Ice9> Patolin3000 its still choppy :/
[11:58] <leo_> what is webpage editer  in ubuntu !
[11:59] <sorin> I have gentoo so there might be some diferences .....
[11:59] <sedat> sorin: what does that mean exactly
[11:59] <token> is there a reason why isn't either xv nor xnview in the list of synaptic?
[11:59] <ninjafish> sorin alsamixer is the same
[11:59] <sorin> sedat: go in console and type alsamixer
[11:59] <ninjafish> default is mute
[11:59] <Patolin3000> Ice9: what apear when you put "hdparm /dev/hdX"?
[12:00] <sorin> ninjafish: I know but i don't know if in ubuntu is installed default