=== Tm_T [n=travolta@85-156-136-81.elisa-mobile.fi] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] hi everybody === LabThug_hm [n=amn414@pcp0011522193pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] Anyone here use kwifimanager that can post their Location file somewhere. I'm having problems getting kubuntu to connect to my AP and webcvs.kde seems down [12:13] LabThug_hm: Have you created configs in KWifiManager? [12:13] Tried, that it didn't connect === _martin [n=martin@ppp-82-135-2-222.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:14] OK, are you ising WEP? === _martin is now known as DocTomoe === DocTomoe [n=martin@ppp-82-135-2-222.mnet-online.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:14] yep [12:14] and DHCP? [12:14] yep [12:15] OK, delete all the configs you created from KWiFIManager and stop using it as it sucks ass. [12:15] It says it sees my AP, but the AP's mac never changes and it continually says it's connected to an AP called "UNKNOWN" [12:15] Follow these instructions... [12:15] how can I load realtime module? I get 'invalid parameter' [12:15] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58168 [12:16] BTJustice: thanks, will review and try them === _static [n=static@adsl-209-30-116-92.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === vortexx [n=vortexx@l01v-212-195-164-166.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu === milksteak [n=milkstea@60-234-138-71.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === vortexx [n=vortexx@l01v-212-195-164-166.d4.club-internet.fr] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:20] "Reboot".... hmmm, I'm on the LiveCD (testing it out) can I get by with just if[up|down] === hmmf [n=hmmf@c210-49-194-246.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] I have no idea. [12:21] yay!!!! [12:21] I can ;-) [12:21] morning, whatever :) [12:22] It worked? Your wireless works? [12:22] gotta love transistors [12:22] haha :) === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@pcp0011522193pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] sorry, wrong time warp [12:22] Anything on the BBC Home Service this evening? [12:23] BTJustice: yes, it does :-D [12:23] Goon Show? Good enough for me :) [12:23] they' invaded Poland [12:23] Thanks for the forum link. That's going in the bookmarks [12:23] You might post in the thread I gave to you that it did. :) [12:23] Poland was asking for it ;) [12:23] I created that thread === ubuntu is now known as LabThug_kbuntu === LabThug_kbuntu is now known as LabThug_kubuntu [12:24] crossed the Sudentenland with stealth I believe, Polish Cavalry shattered [12:25] which brings me inextricably to webcams and a suggestion for a prog to use to get one going [12:25] I've found it easily enough with lsusb [12:26] does it need linking in udev or something? [12:27] not that having one is necessarily an advantage an avatar tells no lies [12:27] or truths :) [12:29] so please if anyone is using a webcam could you tell me what program you use it with? [12:29] gnomemeeting? webcams will just use /dev/video to register themselves [12:30] the canonical program for testing Video4Linux devices is 'xawtv' [12:30] thanks gdh === trozoid [n=johnio@user-0c2img6.cable.earthlink.net] has joined #kubuntu === LabThug_hm [n=amn414@pcp0011522193pcs.jamsis01.sc.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] [12:30] excellent many thanks I've worn out my v4l keys [12:31] back to the orifice thank you I'll give you an autographed pic [12:32] hey, are ubuntu forums down, or is it just me? [12:33] hm, guess it was just trozoid === Jeezis [n=roger@pdpc/supporter/student/Jeezis] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.91] has joined #kubuntu === orkid [n=mike@toronto-HSE-ppp4020538.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === dominic [n=dominic@62.214.237.199] has joined #kubuntu === dominic [n=dominic@62.214.237.199] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === orkid [n=mike@toronto-HSE-ppp4020538.sympatico.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === dominic [n=dominic@62.214.237.199] has joined #kubuntu === _nmorse [n=nmorse@129.244.128.90] has joined #kubuntu === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2F4F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:57] Do you also have problems with Firefox, like that kde's launch feedback (jumping cursor) does not recognize when Firefox has started or that it often (not at the moment here) opens as a tab on another virtual desktop? This is with the firefox package from backports.. [12:57] I'll try to use the latest from hoary-security instead. [12:58] does anyone know how to convert wmv to mpeg? === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c2c-87.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === bender_ [n=bender@ip68-110-112-208.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === bender_ is now known as b3nd3r === cooler [n=pablo@200.175.75.126.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [01:04] :) === lorenzo [n=lorenzo@ip-193-221.sn1.eutelia.it] has joined #kubuntu === milksteak [n=milkstea@60-234-138-71.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === cooler [n=pablo@200.175.75.126.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === sorush20 [n=sam@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === cooler [n=pablo@200.175.75.126.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === sorush20 [n=sam@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] [01:30] hello [01:30] hi [01:30] where can i find some computerscience related books for free ? [01:31] your local library? [01:32] hahah [01:32] he's off and running, to the library === cooler [n=pablo@200.175.75.126.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [01:32] cooler: the library is a great place [01:33] those who i need are already taked [01:33] It's, like, full of books 'n' shit :) [01:34] perhaps a library further away then? ;) [01:35] or you can use a feature called "put a hold on books until they are returned" :P [01:36] okok [01:36] i want the ebook versions [01:37] eletronic versions [01:39] so you're doing an education course but haven't set aside money for text books? :) [01:39] try kazaa etc. - good luck. [01:39] cooler: keep in mind there are some great older editions online via the Web [01:41] google isn't helping [01:42] what kinda books, linux related? [01:43] cscience related [01:43] that's a hell of a large field. [01:44] algorithms, data compression [01:44] tell you what, why don't you just paste in your required reading list for the course and we'll find warez versions for you? :) [01:44] that's easy ? [01:44] heh [01:44] it would be if I were serious. [01:44] just search for the cormen questions if you want a textbook on algorithms [01:45] 1st edition problems & answers are cached somewhere [01:46] remember also that there's plenty of research on various universities' Web sites that you can cross-reference (appendices, works cited) [01:46] cooler search google for "pdf ebooks computer science' http://tuxmobil.org/ebook.html [01:47] if you really want English textbooks, I could mail you some. I teach a couple CS courses, so it wouldn't be out of the way. [01:48] <_tito> ubuntu detects my mouse but its mybe a permision problem [01:48] thanks pax [01:49] <_tito> how can i do that? [01:49] crimsun: so when are you starting a book about ubuntu? [01:49] <_tito> i have mx 100 laser mouse [01:49] <_tito> i have mx 1000 laser mouse [01:50] we got bibles about every distro out there, just not ubuntu yet. Debian 3.1 bible just came out. [01:50] pax: afaik, there's quite a bit of documentation out there already === Reverendo [n=reverend@200.102.67.176] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] crimsun: what cs courses do you teach ? [01:53] yes, but a huge portion of the population still prefer books over internet docs. I personally don't mind spending $30 on a good book, especially if I know a portion of it will go to support my favorite distro. [01:53] cooler: OS, algorithms, and programming languages === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c2c-87.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:59] hey guys [02:00] hi [02:00] i just reformatted my notebook, and reinstalled kubuntu 5,04, i already installed like 3 apps i need, upgraded, and rebooted to the new kernel, anyone recommend me to do anything else at the moment [02:01] and now gcc [02:01] hmm [02:01] the apps are working properly? [02:01] yes [02:01] and they are apps that usually work on gnome [02:02] firefox, gaim, and xchat [02:02] which i am using xchat right now [02:02] of course i used apt-get so they usually do work [02:02] any libraries that i should apt-get for? [02:02] well, my "approach" on upgrading things are: only upgrade when I really need and, if they are working, that's all ok :) [02:02] i see [02:03] what do you use to read email? [02:03] i just use gmail [02:03] Hmm [02:03] I like thunderbird [02:03] oh yeah? [02:03] hmm [02:03] good idea [02:04] bz0b: Given you've come so far as to use Kubuntu, have Konqueror, Kopete, Konversation and Kontact proved inadequate? [02:04] it have some bugs, but it is very good [02:05] Kopete yes [02:05] Konversation and Kontact, i have never tested [02:05] Kopete's biggest problem in Hoary is it doesn't save history. Aside fromthat I have no complaints. [02:06] Well I really dont like using a IM window for IRC [02:06] that is why I use xchat or irssi [02:07] ii konversation 0.16-1ubuntu1 user friendly Internetii konversation 0.16-1ubuntu1 user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) clie Relay Chat (IRC) clie [02:07] :) [02:07] and I have used thunderbird on windows before [02:07] oops, bit of a crap paste there. [02:07] Konverstation is a IRC client? [02:07] yes [02:07] I uses to use Kmail, but now I prefer Thunderbrid [02:07] hmm [02:08] I used to... [02:13] alright i got thunderbird all configured [02:13] time to get ndiswrapper [02:13] it works so well with my wifi card! [02:13] honestly it is so easy === _john [n=john@ool-44c63ce7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu === _john is now known as arcanistherogue [02:15] hey, is it possible to listen to .wma files on linux? [02:16] yes [02:16] how do you do it? [02:16] vlc player [02:16] hmm [02:16] videolan.org/vlc [02:16] can i get that with apt-get? [02:16] or synaptic [02:16] there is a .deb file [02:16] if you have good sources [02:16] probably [02:17] hmmm === brk3 [n=brk3@159.134.220.145] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] thanks alot [02:17] ill look around [02:17] that is a good idea [02:17] now i will get that too [02:17] hehe [02:17] i just reformatted [02:17] so i need some good apps [02:17] nifty, i did about a week ago [02:17] needed mroe linux space [02:17] UT2004 was eating my memory >_< [02:17] well, im gonna get back to work. thanks. [02:17] anyone here using an ati card? === trog|odyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Reverendo [n=reverend@200.102.67.176] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:18] yes [02:18] brk3, i do [02:19] but since im on a laptop [02:19] its integrated [02:19] and what sucks [02:19] is that whenever i boot up it always says ATI Radeon NorthBridge Not Fully Tested [02:19] they need to fully test it! [02:19] bz0b: does it work though? [02:19] yes [02:20] vesa drivers [02:20] but it works [02:20] what are vesa drivers? [02:20] like sort of default drivers [02:20] do you get 3d acceleration then [02:20] probably not [02:20] maybe [02:20] full resolution? [02:20] not too sure [02:20] what laptop do you have [02:20] yes [02:20] presario 2100 series (2186rs with upgraded to 1gb ram) [02:21] just im thinking of getting a hp pavilion zv6179 [02:21] seems class but am slightly worried about the ati card [02:21] the new hp's are great notebooks in my opinion [02:21] ya they seem really good [02:22] my cousin has one he runs gentoo on it very nicely [02:22] i think everything will work [02:22] just that card,, [02:22] s/,,/\.\./ [02:22] as long as i can have full resolution id be happy [02:22] wont really be playing games [02:22] (i suppose) [02:23] vesa driver will give you the full screen resolution, but no 2D accel - important if you ever play video [02:23] what about the drivers from the ati website? [02:23] [02:24] bz0b: have you tried them? [02:24] I have a matrox mystique 220 PCI from 1998 .. :) [02:24] what [02:24] nope [02:24] why not [02:25] maybe i will get the fglrx or whatever they call it [02:25] i like doing things with apt-get [02:25] does wifi work on your laptop? [02:25] yes [02:25] i <3 ndiswrapper [02:25] so easy man === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:25] apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils [02:25] what about the drivers from linuxant [02:25] havent tried [02:26] brk3, its honestly 5 commands to have it there permenantly [02:27] apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils && ndiswrapper -i filename && modprobe ndiswrapper && ndiswrapper -l && ndiswrapper -m [02:27] bz0b: im liking the sound of it :) [02:27] there you go [02:27] http://zv6000forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=643 [02:27] i like the look of that aswell [02:28] and wifi works nicely [02:28] yes [02:28] yay [02:28] vlc is working [02:29] i <3 vlc [02:29] time to get skype! [02:29] lovely - all the non-free shite =) [02:30] what is non-free? [02:30] skype at least [02:30] skype out and in is, but that is understandable [02:30] ndiswrapper is dubious [02:30] skype is free [02:31] as long as theres linux support i dont really care if stuff is free or not [02:31] yeah [02:31] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html [02:31] oh i see what you mean [02:31] skype is as closed and non-free as you can get save for a purchase price. [02:32] i just read the first and understood what you meant [02:34] time to get limewire for linux! [02:34] to download my music [02:34] and now that i have vlc its a great combo [02:34] oh ya :) [02:34] nicotine instead? (for the soulseek network) [02:34] is it better? [02:34] I'm happy with it. [02:34] whats vlc [02:35] VideoLAN Client [02:35] videolan client [02:35] man it plays like every format [02:35] vlc is a nice choice on Windows because it does not use the windows codec system, it does everything internally [02:35] yes [02:35] well it's nice on linux too! [02:37] how does the wifi gui on linux compare to the one on windows? or has anyone tried the windows one [02:38] Windows GUI pwns Linux's for now [02:38] Breezy makes it quite a bit better [02:38] breezy? [02:38] seth_k: pwns? [02:38] ubotu tell bz0b about breezy [02:38] brk3, Windows GUI > Linux's GUI [02:39] HEHE [02:39] seth_k: thought so :( [02:39] It can and will brake your system [02:39] brk3, Breezy includes the NetworkManager, hopefully... it will allow for easy roaming, easy wifi selection, stuff like that [02:39] linux is so great but it really needs to get its act together in alot of areas [02:39] windows's gui? Actually I find this gui (XP) quite annoying. [02:39] yes me too [02:39] I think KDE is much better [02:40] now app-wise, yes, I think there need to be quite a few additional progs. [02:40] bz0b: it is, but we're talking about the wifi gui [02:40] i hate when linux lets me down like this [02:40] no drivers for 6-in-1 card reader either [02:41] that kind of shite gives windows-advocates a field day [02:41] card readers shouldn't need any specific driver - just uses the USB mass-storage support [02:41] put a card in, icon should appear on the desktop... === BTJustice [n=BTJustic@pool-68-238-1-114.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #Kubuntu [02:42] gdh: its a well know fact that the new 6-in-1 card readers on laptops just dont work on linux [02:42] what do you guys think is a better server distro? RHEL 4 or Centos? [02:42] Centos = RHEL without branding, neh? [02:42] ah k so they'll be connected via some odd interface - only a matter of time :) [02:43] seth_k: CentOS is for people too cheap to buy RHEL and too lazy to learn a better OS like Debian :) [02:43] i mean i know its the companies fault for not making drivers. but thats not gonna change so we need to get over it. its a problem thats not being solved === IceDC571 [n=chris@c-67-188-217-5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:43] gdh, word :P [02:43] um.. where is the history for konqueror? [02:44] yeah [02:44] seth_k: That said, it's a useful tool for lame asses like Dell who will only accept that a fault with a machine exists if it can be demonstrated on 'RHEL' [02:44] IceDC571: the third tab from the bottom on the sidebar [02:46] wow [02:46] i never knew about alien [02:46] bz0b: alien is good alright [02:46] brk3: thank you :) [02:46] i now know that === bufalo73 [n=bufalo19@62-43-135-218.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:47] hello [02:47] I have a problem : "Inconsistency detected by ld.so" [02:48] does anybody know how to fix it? [02:48] google doesn't helps [02:48] bz0b: would you take a look at the laptop im thinking of and tell me what you think? [02:49] sure [02:49] can you relink me? [02:49] bz0b: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ie/en/ho/WF06b/21675-38187-38191-38191-38191-12200672-53922087.html [02:49] ok [02:49] one sec [02:49] thanks [02:49] im just scared shitless linux wont work [02:50] bufalo73: when do you get that error [02:51] brk3, anytime I try to open a KDE app [02:51] bufalo73: in a pop-up is it? === sorush20 [n=sam@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === sorush20 [n=sam@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] [02:51] pop-up (alt-f2) and command line [02:52] Anyone know how to access the KDE Setup Wizard where you can pick if you want KDE to act like Windows or MAC OS X? [02:53] heh [02:53] brk3, it will work with 64 iso;s [02:53] amd64* [02:53] can't promise it will work with i386 [02:53] i think that should be a good quote if i do say so myself: "im just scared shitless linux wont work" === milksteak [n=milkstea@60-234-138-71.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] haha [02:53] says it all doesnt it :) [02:54] yup [02:54] bz0b: i thought 32 bit would intall fine if you wanted [02:54] people here were saying not to bother with 64bit it just causes probs [02:55] bufalo73: sorry, have no idea how to fix that [02:55] brk3, well depends on what distro [02:55] i think ubuntu and kubuntu will [02:55] thanks anyway brk3 [02:55] bz0b: well obviouly i want kubuntu [02:55] but whax wont :-) [02:55] ok [02:55] then yes [02:55] it will [02:55] bufalo73: try #debian, seems to be a debian related prob [02:55] dunno though [02:55] but if you are at all like me, then you are going to have to recompile the kernel of whax, a security tools distro, to use t [02:55] it* [02:56] it has every sort of pentest you would wat [02:56] want* [02:56] what the hell is whax :) [02:56] iwhax.net [02:56] #whax [02:56] wanna hack wep? [02:56] hehe [02:56] wep? [02:57] wireless networks with a pass [02:57] Anyone know how to access the KDE Setup Wizard where you can pick if you want KDE to act like Windows or MAC OS X? [02:57] i mean crack wep [02:57] BTJustice: in relation to keyboard? [02:57] bz0b: heh [02:58] bz0b: will help once i get my laptop and ndiswrapper :p [02:58] yes [02:58] actually whax automatically picks up almost every wireless card on startup [02:58] :-) [02:58] you dont even need to do anything except go near a AP [02:58] brk3: No in relation to the desktop [02:59] BTJustice: just on the kde menu->control centre? [02:59] bz0b: ya seems like a great distro.. site doesnt even work :p [02:59] Nah. There is a set up wizard to do it with. It comes with FreeBSD and Slackware I think. [03:00] ioh [03:00] haha he is updating it [03:00] haha === bufalo73 [n=bufalo19@62-43-135-218.user.ono.com] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [03:01] hmm, anyone interested in Adept .deb? (this is a pre-alpha version of the prepared breezy-kubuntu package manager) [03:01] i need some testing :) [03:02] mornfall: il test it. if i can install it! [03:02] in a minute, i'll upload the packs [03:02] where can i get it [03:04] cant wait to see it actually :) kynaptic is balls [03:04] brk3: grab the 3 debs on http://beleriand.mornfall.net/~mornfall/adept/ and install them -- that should be enough :) [03:04] brk3: then run sudo adept [03:05] i know this may sound a little noobish, but how do i cp a directory [03:05] i am trying to copy /usr/java to /usr/lib/java [03:05] cp -R dir destination [03:05] thanks [03:06] bz0b: dude?! [03:06] although, yeh :) [03:06] bz0b: cp -r /usr/java /usr/lib/java [03:06] yeah [03:06] sorry [03:06] i forget sometimes [03:06] mornfall: hope they're not too big.. im on dialup :() [03:06] *:( [03:07] -a, actually :) [03:07] the old ganga eh [03:07] wow, I thought dialup was made illegal in 2003 :) [03:07] so much for progress [03:07] yay [03:07] LimeWire works now! [03:07] brk3, 4M total i think [03:08] someone name a song! [03:08] gdh: wish it was [03:08] scumbags wont bring it to my area [03:08] Nowhere by Katatonia [03:08] bz0b: enjoy! [03:08] (that's what playing here, anyway) [03:08] mornfall: ah, it'l be worth it [03:08] brk3: tell me if you get something out of it :) [03:09] mornfall: anything to contribute :) === brk3 is playing "Hold Me Back" by AC-DC on Stiff Upper Lip [03:09] brk3, thanks [03:09] bz0b: Party at Tony's Beach by the Lindberg Hemmer Foundation ;) [03:09] anyone else willing to give it a ride? [03:09] ok [03:10] mornfall: do you want me to email you with a report? [03:10] brk3: whatever, i will hang around for a while [03:10] mornfall: I wouldn't know what to do with it - all the packages I want are already working :) [03:10] theres far too much traffic in #ubuntu === warthylog [n=warthylo@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Topic for #kubuntu: http://www.kubuntu.de/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=30 | KDE 3.4.2 Packages are out: http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php | Nederlands #kubuntu-nl | Espaol #kubuntu-es | Deutsch #kubuntu-de | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | bugs: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com === Topic (#kubuntu): set by jpatrick at Fri Aug 12 15:56:18 2005 [07:59] (pax/#kubuntu) it's a 'clock' problem, nothing is wrong with your clock, it's kdesu problem === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.91] has joined #kubuntu [07:59] (pax/#kubuntu) not* === ray_ [n=ray@c-24-128-148-122.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === ray_ is now known as Kovecses [07:59] (BTJustice/#kubuntu) how do you fix kdesu? [08:00] BTJustice: its not a problem with kdesu its a problem with the time app [08:00] or can the clock be removed and then reinstalled with Ksynaptic? [08:00] Kovecses: he can adjust the clock just fine from kcontrol [08:00] correct [08:00] pax: then whats the prob? [08:01] Kovecses: I just said kdesu, he can't run it properly [08:01] Kovecses... [08:01] If i right-clci kon the clock in the applet [08:01] then left-click on Adjust Date & Time === kainos [n=kainos@210.213.149.126] has joined #kubuntu [08:02] a window pops up asking me for my root password which I enter correctly [08:02] i click ok [08:02] and nothing happens [08:02] help! how do i start samba? [08:02]