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| === Topic for #launchpad: Discussion with Launchpad users and developers. || https://launchpad.net/ || Includes Rosetta and Malone. || Developers' meeting, Thursday 18 Aug, 12:00 UTC | ||
| === Topic (#launchpad): set by SteveA at Thu Aug 11 14:45:43 2005 | ||
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| Marky | hi everyone =) | 02:20 |
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| Marky | well.. i can't add a new member to a specific translator group | 02:21 |
| Marky | when i click the "Choose' button there's a new window opens | 02:22 |
| Marky | but when i enter the name .. in won't do a thing | 02:22 |
| Marky | is it a bug ? | 02:23 |
| Marky | I'm using Mozilla 1.0.6 thanx | 02:23 |
| Marky | oh, that's Rosetta | 02:23 |
| sabdfl | Marky: wht are you entering in the text box? | 02:30 |
| sabdfl | you need to enter part of somebody's name | 02:31 |
| sabdfl | then it searches | 02:31 |
| Marky | yeah, i've entered the name | 02:31 |
| sabdfl | it shoudl tell you if it finds no matches, but at the moment it just looks like nothing happens | 02:31 |
| sabdfl | file a bug, assign to stuart bishop | 02:31 |
| Marky | so.. should i wait .. ? | 02:31 |
| Marky | well.. this is odd.. | 02:32 |
| Marky | i've searched for someone name Tedi Heriyanto | 02:33 |
| Marky | He's translated some package, but when i'm searching his name to add him.. | 02:33 |
| Marky | the Launchpad found nothing | 02:34 |
| sabdfl | Marky: try contacting him directly, ask him to register in launchpad | 02:54 |
| sd-tux | hi, how can i start translating a program(gnomemeeting) to georgian language ? in "Programs you can translate" i see only some applications gaim xmms etc. | 03:17 |
| sabdfl | sd-tux: are you a member of the Ubuntu Georgian team? | 03:41 |
| sabdfl | would you like to be? have you any experience translating PO files? | 03:42 |
| sabdfl | and what's your launchpad name? | 03:43 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: my launhpad name is "Alexander Didebulidze" I don't have experience in translating .po files | 03:45 |
| sd-tux | sd-tux: and I'm notmember of Ubuntu team yet | 03:46 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: and I'm notmember of Ubuntu team yet.. | 03:47 |
| sabdfl | sd-tux: i'm happy to add you as the first translator | 03:48 |
| sabdfl | it would be good if you could start trying to find other guys who would join a team | 03:48 |
| sabdfl | when you find someone else, create a launchpad team, and add yourself and them to the team | 03:48 |
| sabdfl | then we'll make the team the translator instead of you personally | 03:48 |
| sabdfl | make sense | 03:48 |
| sabdfl | ? | 03:48 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: actualy i just want to translate some gnome apps.. I helped a bit in translating Gaim using Rosetta.. | 03:49 |
| sabdfl | i've added you as a designated Georgian translator for ubuntu | 03:50 |
| sabdfl | so now you can translate anything there | 03:50 |
| sabdfl | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+translations | 03:50 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: we are 2 persons now.. "Alexander Didebulidze" and "Vladimir Sichinava" | 03:50 |
| sabdfl | ok | 03:50 |
| sabdfl | create a team called "Ubuntu Georgian Translators" with name ubuntu-l10n-ka | 03:51 |
| sabdfl | put vladimir in there, and yourself too | 03:51 |
| sabdfl | then ping me | 03:51 |
| sd-tux | ok | 03:52 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: do i have a permission to change the name of georgian translator from "Alexander Didebulidze" to "Ubuntu Georgian Translators" ? I'm getting " Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page." | 04:01 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: on this page : https://launchpad.net/rosetta/groups/ubuntu-translators/ | 04:01 |
| sabdfl | sd-tux: have you created the team? | 04:14 |
| sabdfl | what'sthe team name? | 04:14 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: i can't find a place from wich i can create a team ... | 04:15 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: ok i found it.. | 04:18 |
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| sd-tux | sabdfl: ok I have created a team an i'd like to know how to add a package for translation in Rosetta | 04:44 |
| sabdfl | sd-tux: done | 05:03 |
| ddaa | 44466644466582 | 05:03 |
| ddaa | oop- | 05:03 |
| sabdfl | you can now automatically translate any package in ubuntu | 05:03 |
| sabdfl | ddaa: hello :-) | 05:03 |
| ddaa | hello | 05:04 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: how can i tell rosetta how plural forms work for Georgian.. | 05:12 |
| sabdfl | sd-tux: do you know what a georgian pluralform expression looks like? | 05:12 |
| sd-tux | sabdfl: I think i know... I'm georgian and other members too :) | 05:13 |
| sabdfl | yes, but in PO file translation, there's a bit of magic that describes how plural forms work in that language | 05:14 |
| sabdfl | usually it's pretty simple - any message that has a variable number of "things" has two forms - one singular, one plural | 05:14 |
| sabdfl | but some languages are a lot more complicated | 05:14 |
| sabdfl | welsh, for example, has many,many plural forms | 05:15 |
| sabdfl | depending on whether there are 0, 1, 2, 3, 7 or more, 10 or more... etc | 05:15 |
| sabdfl | for example, the message "there are %s cars on the road" | 05:15 |
| sabdfl | how many different sentences would you need to translate that, depending on the number of s? | 05:15 |
| sabdfl | in georgian? | 05:16 |
| sabdfl | in english, it's two | 05:16 |
| sabdfl | "there are X cars on the road" | 05:16 |
| sabdfl | "there is X car on the road" | 05:16 |
| sd-tux | for example we have no articles, no capital letters, no masculine or feminile articles. | 05:16 |
| sd-tux | but we have 7 cases. | 05:16 |
| sabdfl | sounds good | 05:16 |
| sabdfl | cases are not usually a problem | 05:16 |
| sabdfl | is it slavic? similar to russian? | 05:17 |
| sd-tux | so | 05:17 |
| sd-tux | georgian is not indoeropian language | 05:17 |
| sd-tux | georgian is a Kartvelic Caucasian Language. | 05:18 |
| sd-tux | a Language is with proper alphabet and with a propher language. | 05:20 |
| sd-tux | in this team we understand quite good english, and good german italian and russian language. | 05:20 |
| sd-tux | for example with plural nouns; | 05:21 |
| sd-tux | there are X cars on the road= "kuchashi X manka-nebia" (I'm using latin letters :D) and... | 05:22 |
| sd-tux | "there is X car on the road" - "kuchashi X mank-anaa". | 05:22 |
| sd-tux | "sufix" is changed. | 05:23 |
| sd-tux | so plurals in georgian are: | 05:27 |
| sd-tux | 1 car = 1 mankana | 05:27 |
| sd-tux | 2 cars = 2 mankana | 05:27 |
| sd-tux | many cars = bevri mankana | 05:28 |
| sd-tux | so noun mankana is not changed. | 05:28 |
| sd-tux | but without without "many" a noun mankana will change into "mankanebi". | 05:29 |
| sd-tux | so what can do? | 05:29 |
| sabdfl | ok, this looks fairly standard | 05:30 |
| sabdfl | email this conversation to the rosetta-users list and ask carlos to add Georgian | 05:30 |
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| mdke | hi all | 11:28 |
| mdke | is everything imported into breezy in rosetta now? | 11:28 |
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