[01:29] <crimsun> welp, time to sit back while the cairo transition bubbles on...
[01:30] <crimsun> hub: actually Notes will have a Linux client.
[01:31] <crimsun> hub: as a stop-gap, I ran Notes 7 in WINE this entire summer
[08:03] <\sh> robitaille: u have to add deb http://archive.linux-server.org/ breezy/$(ARCH)/ as well to your sources.list
[08:04] <robitaille> ok
[08:07] <\sh> hehe
[08:07] <\sh> btw....is tar.bz2 for upstream orig. archives now working?
[08:11] <\sh> anyways...I have to shower and go to the office...checking what's nagra doing
[08:13] <ajmitch> great, the upgrade wants to remove nvidia-glx :)
[08:40] <rob^> I'm getting the following when trying to install scorched3d on colony 3:  Depends: libwxgtk2.4 (>=2.4.2.6ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[08:42] <rob^> any ideas?
[08:45] <ajmitch> needs rebuilt, will check it out later
[08:45] <rob^> thanks
[08:45] <ajmitch> fow now, bbl
[09:33] <Treenaks> Is my feed _that_ broken?
[09:34] <Treenaks> (I see I'm not alone.. \sh has reposted all of his adventures as well, or so planet thinks)
[09:36] <lathiat> heheh
[09:40] <Treenaks> lathiat: you know the cool thing? it works in my (0.2) planet
[09:40] <Treenaks> lathiat: so it got broken between 0.2 and "1.0~~pre1)
[09:41] <lathiat> ah
[11:44] <ajmitch> hi ogra, ivoks  :)
[11:48] <ivoks> hi all
[11:49] <ivoks> i found a bug in acpi-support :(
[11:49] <ivoks> acctually, bug is reported couple of times on bugzilla :)
[11:49] <ivoks> solution is very simple... i hope thom will see my post
[11:57] <siretart> morning..
[11:57] <siretart> still no new lyx in unstable :(
[11:59] <Treenaks> siretart: try looking in breezy :P
[12:00] <siretart> Treenaks: lyx in breezy is broken, uninstallable and FTBFS
[12:00] <Treenaks> siretart: and somehow unstable is better? :P
[12:00] <siretart> Treenaks: I spend 2 days fixing it for me, this included upgrading to new upstream version and fixing some dependencies
[12:00] <siretart> Treenaks: now I wonder if I should upload the package I have here. This would bring is a working lyx in breezy
[12:01] <siretart> debian maintainers promises since weeks to upload a new version... :/
[12:02] <Mithrandir> siretart: where's the package?
[12:03] <siretart> Mithrandir: the fixed one? on my harddrive. Do you want to have a look at it?
[12:03] <Mithrandir> hm, five days is a bit short for NMUing
[12:04] <siretart> the debian maintainer told somewhere they wanted to convert from yada to cdbs
[12:04] <siretart> but ppl needed the new upstream version, so georg baum (lyx upstream) upgraded the existing debian package
[12:04] <Mithrandir> getting rid of yada is always nice.
[12:04] <Mithrandir> yada should die
[12:05] <siretart> I did some polishing work and have now a working package
[12:05] <siretart> still on yada, but working
[12:05] <siretart> and bob2 promised to have an upload yesterday. Perhaps he needs a sponsor, I don't know
[12:06] <siretart> yada seems terrible to me, too.
[12:07] <Mithrandir> bob2 promised to upload to debian or ubuntu?
[12:07] <siretart> to upload to unstable
[12:07] <siretart> but I didn't find him on people.debian.org, so I guess he needs a sponsor..
[12:07] <Mithrandir> yeah
[12:13] <siretart> hi Mez
[12:15] <Mez> hey siretart
[12:15] <siretart> Mez: did you see the backport request for proftpd?
[12:16] <siretart> I wasn't sure, had to prepare my party yesterday ;)
[12:17] <Mez> siretart: no i didnt
[12:17] <Mez> unless it was sent to the mailing list
[12:17] <siretart> Mez: oh. which mailing list is appropriate?
[12:18] <siretart> ubuntu-backports, found it
[12:18] <Mez> :P
[12:19] <\sh> use jabber :)
[12:19] <Mez> jabber?
[12:19] <Mez> what about jabber?
[12:19] <Mez> or was that just general spam
[12:19] <siretart> Mez: is jdong now working with ubuntu-backports?
[12:19] <\sh> nice offline message support...so send the requests through jabber and u will see all backport requests
[12:19] <\sh> ;)
[12:19] <siretart> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ still doesn't mention the official backports, so I'm confused..
[12:20] <lathiat> i dont think that page is particularly in date at all
[12:20] <Mez> siretart, I dont have access at all
[12:20] <Mez> yeah
[12:20] <Mez> UbuntuMez@jabber.org/apathy
[12:21] <\sh> Mez|WoW: u read my blog article about gajim?
[12:22] <Mez|WoW> gajim ... ?
[12:22] <Mez|WoW> most likely
[12:22] <\sh> yes...
[12:22] <Mez|WoW> I read most blog articles
[12:23] <\sh> gtk jabber client...just like psi under qt/kde
[12:23] <siretart> \sh: I'm looking forward to test your package :)
[12:23] <Mez|WoW> when was it written?
[12:23] <\sh> written in python and it rocks (even I'm not the gnome type of user)
[12:23] <\sh> siretart: it's on revu
[12:23] <\sh> siretart: u need dnspython as well
[12:23] <siretart> w00h0. will test in a sec :)
[12:24] <\sh> siretart: binary packages are on deb http://archive.linux-server.org/ breezy/all
[12:24] <\sh> and http://archive.linux-server.org/ breezy/$(ARCH)/
[12:24] <Mez|WoW> \sh - what happened to sourcecode.de
[12:24] <\sh> Mez|WoW: it's my mail domain :)
[12:25] <\sh> to copy and paste:
[12:25] <\sh> deb http://archive.linux-server.org/    breezy/all/
[12:25] <\sh> deb http://archive.linux-server.org/    breezy/$(ARCH)/
[12:25] <\sh> deb-src http://archive.linux-server.org/        breezy/source/
[12:26] <\sh> siretart: dnspython is needed for srv dns record lookup so it's using tls and complying to xmpp 1.0
[12:26] <siretart> \sh: can you explain me the meaning of this debian/dnspython.examples?
[12:27] <siretart> brb
[12:27] <\sh> siretart: yes..it installs the examples in /usr/share/docs/dnspython...it's a feature of cdbs
[12:27] <\sh> for python packages
[12:29] <Mez|WoW> \sh It looks nice, but I can mnever see me using it instead of using gaim
[12:29] <Mez|WoW> I use gaim all the time and dont need another client
[12:30] <\sh> Mez|WoW: gaim is not a jabber client..it's a multiprotocol client...
[12:30] <\sh> Mez|WoW: gajim is plain jabber...so it uses only the different jabber/xmpp technologies
[12:30] <\sh> and this is more what icq, aim, yahoo and msn have together :)
[12:31] <Mez|WoW> \sh: but - while it isa still multiprotocol - it still suppoirts the jabber stuff
[12:31] <Mez|WoW> what does gajim give me that gaim cant?
[12:31] <\sh> Mez|WoW: it doesn't support jabber services like transports, rss, pubsub, jud, etc.
[12:32] <\sh> Mez|WoW: gajim is supporting those services...
[12:32] <Mez|WoW> \sh: I've never used them anyways
[12:32] <Mez|WoW> because I use jabber.org
[12:32] <\sh> Mez|WoW: hehe...
[12:32] <\sh> yes jabber.org has a problem with transports...legal things
[12:33] <\sh> and some of them are sometimes nasty to administrate
[12:33] <\sh> ok...
[12:33] <Mez|WoW> \sh: simple thing - I dont have access to anywhere else for Jabber
[12:33] <Mez|WoW> I love the way it works
[12:33] <Mez|WoW> but, I dont have any acccess to/any need for extra features at the moment
[12:33] <siretart> \sh: looking great! one more MOTU to go! :)
[12:33] <Mez|WoW> I'll review in a sec
[12:33] <Mez|WoW> \sh: I dont even see you online at the moment
[12:34] <siretart> ok, have to help preparing lunch here, cu later!
 \sh: simple thing - I dont have access to anywhere else for Jabber
[12:34] <JanC> no access ?
[12:35] <JanC> because of a firewall or something ?
[12:36] <Mez|WoW> JanC... I dont have a private non-generic jabber server to connect to
[12:36] <JanC> Mez|WoW, there are lots of free jabber servers ?
[12:38] <JanC> and some of them do have special services installed
[12:41] <JanC> e.g. http://web.amessage.info/ has smtp & sms gateway, a blogging gateway, ...
[12:41] <\sh> anyways ... i'm at the office...and I can't do anything here anymore..
[12:41] <\sh> so i need to go home...and deal with some real life
[12:42] <Nafallo> Mez|WoW: linux-server.org is \sh's ;-)
[12:42] <\sh> Nafallo: he's already registered
[12:42] <Nafallo> oh
[12:42] <\sh> Nafallo: the status view of gaim...was it a problem of gaim ?
[12:43] <\sh> Nafallo: i think it was u with the same problem...right/
[12:43] <Nafallo> \sh: dunno. I know you are not online according to it ;-)
[12:43] <\sh> Nafallo: ok...check gajim
[12:43] <Nafallo> \sh: is it on REVU yet?! :-D
[12:43] <\sh> Nafallo: it's on revu
[12:44] <\sh> and u can find binaries on http://archive.linux-server.org/breezy
[12:44] <\sh> Nafallo: dnspython as well...i need it for xmpp 1.0 dns srv recs
[12:44] <Nafallo> yea, I know :-)
[12:44] <\sh> but now I have to leave here...I want to go home...
[12:45] <\sh> cu later guys...in one hour or so/
[12:45] <\sh> cu later
[12:45] <Nafallo> \sh: yepp :-)
[12:45] <siretart> bye \sh_away
[12:47] <Nafallo> ehm
[12:47] <Nafallo> sity_python?
[12:47] <Nafallo> site_python?
[12:51] <Mez|WoW> Nafallo: good catch
[12:52] <siretart> Nafallo: great spotting!
[12:56] <Yagisan> G'day All
[01:00] <Nafallo> hmm
[01:00] <Nafallo> anyone else use gaim-evolutionpluginsstuffthing?
[01:02] <siretart> hi Yagisan
[01:02] <Nafallo> everything seems to notice it's jabber I want to add, but when I add it to gaim, the damn address gets added as GroupWise :-P
[01:05] <Yagisan> can anyone think of a packages that creates multiple debs from a data package without creating a binary deb ?
[01:06] <Yagisan> I went through the games section
[01:06] <Yagisan> but they seem to mostly be one source, one binary
[01:07] <siretart> Yagisan: err, you always need a source package. it can create one or more than one 'binary' packages
[01:07] <siretart> Yagisan: note that a binary package may also include just 'data'
[01:08] <Yagisan> what I mean is, you see all those deng-jdoom-rp-* packages I sent to revu ?
[01:08] <Yagisan> I have been asked to make it once source
[01:09] <Yagisan> for those debs. I'm looking for an example package
[01:09] <siretart> Yagisan: ah, do I understand you correctly, you want to combine several upstream tarballs to one debian sourcepackage?
[01:10] <Yagisan> It is all the same upstream (but the packages are seperated for maintainence and user convienience)
[01:10] <siretart> that doesn't matter
[01:11] <Yagisan> I was asked by ajmitch to look into combining them into one source, multiple binaries
[01:11] <Yagisan> but I can't find an example
[01:11] <Yagisan> so other games do it
[01:11] <siretart> the current dpkg source format cannot handle several upstream. the new wig and pen format will support this, but this format is not allowed in the archive yet
[01:11] <Yagisan> s/so/no/
[01:11] <siretart> as workaround, I've seen packages combining all tarballs from upstream into one new orig.tar.gz
[01:12] <Yagisan> that's what I'm looking at
[01:12] <siretart> debian/rules will then extract the tarballs in it
[01:12] <Yagisan> in my case they are simply .zips
[01:12] <Yagisan> with noexecutable data
[01:12] <siretart> you could make a new tar.gz containing all those .zip's
[01:12] <siretart> extracting them at build time
[01:16] <Yagisan> be back soon
[01:22] <Nafallo> gaah
[01:23] <Nafallo> build-dep: mozilla-dev (>= 2:1.7.8), build-conflict: mozilla-dev (>= 2:1.7.9)
[01:23] <Nafallo> wth
[01:24] <Mithrandir> that's a build-dep: mozilla-dev (>= 2:1.7.8), mozilla-dev (<< 2:1.7.9)
[01:25] <Nafallo> Mithrandir: what about build-dep mozilla-dev (= 2:1.7.8)
[01:25] <Nafallo> =
[01:25] <Nafallo> ?
[01:25] <Mithrandir> that's wrong
[01:25] <Mithrandir> it won't work with 2:1.7.8-1 -2 and so on
[01:26] <Nafallo> Mithrandir: anyway, I'll try to remove the conflict things and just have higher than 2:1.7.8. We'll see if it compiles with our version.
[01:27] <Mithrandir>  dpkg --compare-versions '2:1.7.8' '=' '2:1.7.8-1' && echo true || echo false
[01:27] <Mithrandir> false
[02:07] <Yagisan> siretart: ping
[02:07] <siretart> Yagisan: pong
[02:08] <Yagisan> siretart: you can nuke all of the deng-jdoom-rp-* packages at deng
[02:08] <siretart> okay
[02:08] <Yagisan> I worked out how to use one source to produce all of those binaries
[02:08] <Yagisan> :)
[02:15] <siretart> how?
[02:16] <siretart> stuff nuked
[02:17] <Yagisan> ?
[02:17] <Yagisan> thanks siretart
[02:18] <Yagisan> I used the packaging rules for wesnoth as inspiration
[02:19] <Yagisan> it makes a few data packages
[02:19] <siretart> great :)
[02:19] <slomo> hi all
[02:19] <Yagisan> I think my package is the only one that is multiple data from one source, without binaries though
[02:20] <Yagisan> just waiting on a list of all authors from upstream before reuploading
[02:20] <Yagisan> (I have a slow uplink)
[02:20] <Yagisan> G'day Slomo
[02:20] <siretart> hi slomo
[02:21] <siretart> \sh_away: I think you can upload http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=412 :)
[02:56] <tseng> Mez: ping
[03:24] <\sh> Mez: what is apathy? other client then gaim or only the resource?
[03:37] <tvo> hi! pbuilder gives me "dpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `.diff'"  what could cause this?
[03:39] <tvo> lintian & linda don't give any warnings/errors
[03:39] <sedak> do you have any tar.gz in the .dsc file ?
[03:41] <tvo> sedak: yes, orig.tar.gz
[03:41] <sedak> then i don't know :-)
[03:42] <\sh> and your diff is .diff.gz?
[03:42] <tvo> \sh: yes
[03:42] <\sh> hmmm
[03:42] <\sh> which package?
[03:43] <tvo> kio-locate
[03:43] <\sh> is it in the archives, i think so
[03:43] <tvo> a month ago I succesfully build it. now it doesn't work
[03:44] <tvo> yes 0.4.2tvo0.1 is in universe
[03:44] <\sh> lemme check :)
[03:44] <\sh> just updating this laptop here
[03:44] <tvo> The only significant thing I changed during this build are a pbuilder breezy chroot instead of hoary IIRC
[03:45] <\sh> tvo: with --override-config?
[03:45] <tvo> yes
[03:46] <tvo> I followed PbuilderHowto
[03:46] <\sh> Checking for the qt library       :  qt was not found
[03:46] <\sh> Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options
[03:47] <\sh> debuild -S output
[03:48] <tvo> hmm that's weird. Could be a bug in bksys, the build system used
[03:49] <\sh> check this first :)
[03:57] <tvo> \sh: I'm unable to reproduce that output..
[03:58] <Yagisan> slomo: ping
[03:58] <\sh> tvo: do u have libqt3-mt-dev installed ?
[03:58] <slomo> Yagisan: pong
[03:58] <Yagisan> slomo: Thank you. Only possible changes now are to the suggests line
[03:59] <tvo> \sh: yes
[03:59] <\sh> tvo: that's the problem
[03:59] <\sh> debuild -S uses the host system to clean the tarball and the diff.gz
[04:00] <\sh> if you depend on an installed -dev package during clean time...it's bad
[04:00] <slomo> Yagisan: what do you want to change there?
[04:00] <\sh> $(SCONS_CMD) -c
[04:00] <\sh> thats the problem
[04:01] <Yagisan> Had a new upstream of deng-jhexen-xccp released yesterday, and it obsoleted deng-jhexen-skypack
[04:01] <tvo> \sh: I guess the problem is in scons or bksys then. I wants to configure before cleaning
[04:02] <tvo> $(SCONS_CMD) -c == make clean
[04:02] <slomo> Yagisan: oh ok... just tell me when you've done a new upload there :) and search for two other MOTU who vote for deng ;)
[04:02] <\sh> tvo: yes...but it tries to configure something first :)
[04:03] <tvo> \sh: yup, and it shouldn't do that. It's not needed.
[04:03] <Yagisan> slomo: no problems. Feel like giving my deng-iwad-*installer's a once over ?
[04:03] <\sh> tvo: do u need scons at all?
[04:04] <slomo> Yagisan: sure
[04:04] <slomo> Yagisan: after i've created a new package ;)
[04:04] <tvo> \sh: well, I suppose I could try to replace it with autotools
[04:04] <Yagisan> slomo: thanks
[04:04] <tvo> but scons looks much cleaner, that's why original author switched
[04:05] <tvo> and I don't want to switch back and add 400k autotools to the package..
[04:06] <\sh> tvo: hmmm..possibility to avoid the configure state in clean target?
[04:07] <tvo> \sh: by talking to ita, bksys author
[04:07] <tvo> I already reported/fixed several issues and if it appears to be a bksys issue, it'll be fixed in 1-2 days
[04:08] <tvo> if it's in scons, then I don't know how much time it takes.. could try to fix it myself..
[04:08] <pef> hi
[04:10] <\sh> tvo: what about adding -k flag?
[04:11] <tvo> \sh: could be a good workaround
[04:11] <siretart> \sh: I think dnspython reached quorum, will you upload it?
[04:11] <tvo> I'll test it now
[04:11] <siretart> ah, there was this typo, ignore me.. sory
[04:12] <\sh> siretart: I fix it first
[04:13] <siretart> ok
[04:13] <\sh> give me a couple of minutes :)
[04:25] <tvo> \sh: there appears to be a new builddir/srcdir feature in scons, so no need for clean, just rm -rf builddir. I'll use that, seems a better solution than any workaround
[04:28] <\sh> tvo: try...send me the debdiff :)
[04:33] <tvo> \sh: ok, I'll do that once I updated the build system
[04:46] <\sh> siretart: uploaded new version
[04:49] <siretart> \sh: advocated it ;)
[04:49] <\sh> thx
[04:49] <Nafallo> hmm, is that a typofix, or a complete new string? ;-)
[04:50] <Yagisan> slomo: ping
[04:50] <\sh> Nafallo: complete new string ,-)
[04:50] <Nafallo> GAAH!
[04:50] <Nafallo> I _HATE_ gnome-panel
[04:50] <\sh> Nafallo: check it :)
[04:50] <slomo> Yagisan: pong
[04:51] <Yagisan> slomo: new deng with corrected suggests is uploaded
[04:51] <Yagisan> 3 advocates please :-D
[04:53] <\sh> hmmm
[04:53] <\sh> deng would install the binaries into /usr/games/deng
[04:54] <\sh> but the binary should be installed only under /usr/games
[04:54] <Yagisan> \sh nope
[04:54] <\sh> Yagisan: check the other games
[04:54] <Yagisan> \sh eg see wesnoth
[04:55] <Yagisan> allmost all are /usr/games/<packagename>
[04:55] <\sh> well...fortune e.g. /usr/games/fortune <- binary
[04:55] <\sh> no dir
[04:55] <\sh> same-gnome as well
[04:56] <\sh> I know also the old style system...
[04:56] <siretart> Yagisan: please see http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-customized-programs.html#s11.11
[04:56] <siretart> Yagisan: \sh is right, imo
[04:57] <Yagisan> siretart, that a lot of universe is borken
[04:57] <Yagisan> s/that/then
[04:58] <\sh> Yagisan: yes...because it was the old system...since FHS we should fix this
[04:58] <\sh> another MOTU todo for MOTUGames Team ,-)
[04:58] <siretart> *sigh*
[04:58] <\sh> hahaha
[04:58] <\sh> knife in da back ,-)
[04:58] <Yagisan> crap
[04:59] <\sh> Yagisan: ifeq "$(DEBIAN_ARCH)" "i386" CFLAGS += -mcpu=i686
[04:59] <\sh> endif
[05:00] <Yagisan> suggestions on where to tell deng to shove it's private libraries ?
[05:00] <\sh> /usr/share/deng ?
[05:00] <tseng> wesnoth is too hard
[05:00] <\sh> oh private libs?
[05:00] <\sh> /usr/lib/deng
[05:00] <Yagisan> yes
[05:00] <tseng> it should stop beating me
[05:00] <siretart> tseng: in what sense?
[05:00] <\sh> or /usr/libexec/deng
[05:00] <slomo> \sh: regarding mcpu: that's only tuning... the stuff will also run on an old 386 ;)
[05:00] <tseng> siretart: i cant win
[05:00] <siretart> ah
[05:00] <\sh> slomo: ok...
[05:01] <siretart> /usr/libexec ?!
[05:01] <siretart> in debian?!
[05:01] <\sh> u see...
[05:01] <\sh> I'm just an old fart...
[05:01] <\sh> so /usr/lib/deng
[05:01] <siretart> jo, that sounds right..
[05:02] <Yagisan> :(
[05:02] <Yagisan> time for more configure magic
[05:03] <siretart> anyone knows whats wrong with gnome-panel?
[05:03] <siretart> since a few days, its behaving quite weird.
[05:04] <siretart> Yagisan: err, I just installed wesnoth, where did you see that it creates a dir under /usr/games?
[05:04] <slomo> siretart: what exactly? does it crash constantly for you?
[05:05] <siretart> slomo: quite often, yes
[05:05] <\sh> I think I have to rewrite the complete rules file for gajim
[05:05] <slomo> siretart: hmm... after updating yesterday and a reboot this disappeared here
[05:06] <siretart> hm
[05:06] <siretart> \sh: :(
[05:06] <\sh> because the default of 0.7.1 is ugly
[05:06] <\sh> no problem...
[05:07] <Yagisan> siretart - I must be mistaken, I'm sure I saw it there when I checked last, but on a re-install I can't find it either
[05:11] <Mez> \sh apathy is just a resource :D It's my comp name
[05:15] <Seveas> I found a trivial packaging bug in a package (one line fix in debian/control). Should I put a new package on revo or is a bug report enough?
[05:16] <slomo> Seveas: make a debdiff and give it to someone who can upload it for you
[05:16] <\sh> Mez: ah ok :)
[05:17] <Seveas> slomo, can you, and do you have 5 minutes to fix it?
[05:20] <slomo> Seveas: i could... when i finally have upload rights *waiting almost a month* ;) maybe \sh has time...
[05:20] <Seveas> hehe
[05:21] <Seveas> \sh, do you?
[05:30] <\sh> slomo: elmo inserted the keys...did u try?
[05:31] <\sh> Seveas: what is it? send me the debdiff to sh@sourcecode.de
[05:31] <\sh> i need to hang clothes :)
[05:31] <slomo> \sh: nope... what can break when mine isn't there yet?
[05:31] <\sh> slomo: nothing..it disappears
[05:31] <slomo> \sh: and i get a REJECT mail?
[05:31] <Seveas> \sh, you really want a debdiff for one missing dependency?
[05:35] <Yagisan> while I'm fixing deng, was there anything else you guys think should be fixed ?
[05:38] <\sh> Seveas: package and whats missing
[05:38] <\sh> slomo: something like this
[05:41] <Seveas> steghide, build-dep on libjpeg-dev is missing
[05:42] <Seveas> so it gets built without jpeg support
[05:44] <Seveas> debdiff does not show this for the debs or gives far too much output for thr dsc
[05:44] <\sh> Seveas: and it should compile with libjpeg support ?
[05:44] <Seveas> I see no reason why not
[05:45] <\sh> argl
[05:45] <\sh> this gnome panel
[05:45] <\sh> it's crashing
[05:46] <lathiat> yeh i keep getting that
[05:46] <Seveas> the changelog mentions nothing about the reason for it not to be included
[05:46] <Seveas> and there's no readme.debian
[05:46] <slomo> \sh: hehe... same for me and siretart... and my xchat crashs everytime the panel crashs :(
[05:46] <\sh> Seveas: it's ftbfsing
[05:46] <lathiat> slomo: heh yeh thatd be cause yoru notification area goes away
[05:46] <lathiat> gaim will crash too
[05:47] <\sh> yeah
[05:47] <\sh> gajim as well..so I removed it from the notification area
[05:47] <slomo> lathiat: hm, gaim doesn't crash for me... but liferea does
[05:47] <\sh> but rhythmbox is running
[05:47] <lathiat> slomo: hrm, gaim has always crashed for me when the panel crashes
[05:47] <lathiat> yeh rhythmbox is good
[05:47] <lathiat> it even restores the icon
[05:47] <Seveas> \sh, hmm
[05:47] <Seveas> here it builds fine
[05:47] <lathiat> some applications, like azureus, dont crash but you lose the tray icon
[05:47] <slomo> lathiat: rhythmbox is too unstable for me... it doesn't like some of my mp3s ;)
[05:48] <lathiat> .. and the window is hidden :)
[05:48] <lathiat> slomo: works great for me
[05:48] <lathiat> if it doesnt like your mp3s your mp3s suck :)
[05:48] <slomo> lathiat: hehe, that's the reason why i don't hide azureus anymore
[05:48] <lathiat> that or gstreamer0.8-mad isnt installed
[05:48] <\sh> CvrStgObject.h:40: warning: 'class CvrStgObject' has virtual functions but non-virtual destructor
[05:48] <\sh> SampleValue.h: In member function 'size_t SampleValueHash::operator()(const SampleValue*) const':
[05:48] <\sh> SampleValue.h:166: error: 'hash' is not a member of 'sgi'
[05:48] <\sh> SampleValue.h:166: error: expected primary-expression before '>' token
[05:48] <\sh> SampleValue.h:166: error: 'h' was not declared in this scope
[05:48] <slomo> lathiat: at least it segfaults when i import all my stuff... after 5 minutes or something
[05:48] <slomo> lathiat: i've installed all gstreamer stuff :P
[05:48] <lathiat> ah nice
[05:48] <lathiat> does muine work?
[05:48] <lathiat> probably a gstreamer bug
[05:48] <lathiat> file a bug ;p
[05:49] <Seveas> \sh, must be a gcc4 thing, I see i was using a hoary chroot here
[05:49] <Seveas> will work on it
[05:50] <slomo> lathiat: muine and every other gst application works fine ;) and how shall i describe the bug? "it crashes after some time"? ;) well, i'll run it through gdb later... when the panel doesn't crash anymore...
[05:50] <\sh> Seveas: ok :)I
[05:55] <slomo> \sh: when i don't get a mail from katie after uploading... what does that mean? ;) why don't i get a REJECT?
[05:58] <Yagisan> anyone here notice that on hoary amd64, mplayer and mencoder can't detect SSE support, so it gets disabled
[06:02] <\sh> slomo: then u r not whitelisted or u used the wrong email address in the changelog etc.
[06:04] <slomo> \sh: mail address was ok and i normally get mails from katie when someone else uploads something for me... so i can assume elmo hasn't added me yet?
[06:04] <\sh> slomo: u should get a rejected
[06:06] <slomo> \sh: weird... who can i ask because of that? elmo, lamont and infinity?
[06:06] <\sh> elmo
[06:07] <\sh> or try lamont
[06:07] <slomo> ok, done
[06:14] <Yagisan> is it possible to set up pbuilder to use distcc or ccache to speed it up ? I already have it unpack in to RAM to ease disk access,
[06:14] <Yagisan> but I'd like it to go quicker if possible
[06:17] <\sh> uploading new gajim version to revu
[06:18] <siretart> \sh: upload dnspython to ubuntu, too, if you are at it
[06:21] <\sh> siretart: i need 3 ,-)
[06:21] <siretart> \sh: you are motu, and count
[06:21] <siretart> :)
[06:21] <\sh> really?
[06:21] <siretart> I really don't see problems with it
[06:21] <\sh> i don't want to bend the rules
[06:22] <siretart> it's a NEW package after all, and I think dholbach agreed with that
[06:22] <\sh> cause dholbach is also waiting for 3 ,-)
[06:22] <siretart> yes?
[06:22] <siretart> hm
[06:22] <siretart> lets ask ogra when he returns
[06:23] <\sh> hmmm
[06:23] <\sh> I should put dnspython to suggest and not an install dep
[06:23] <\sh> in gajim
[06:23] <siretart> isn't it needed for operation?
[06:23] <\sh> no..I will make some things easier
[06:24] <\sh> s/I/it/
[06:57] <zanaga> ok, who do i bug to get NetworkManager fixed. There is a fix in the BTS, it just needs to be applied and rebuilt: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13070
[07:01] <siretart> zanaga: thom
[07:03] <eruin> is anything going on with networkmanager?
[07:03] <zanaga> i just asked ;)
[07:04] <zanaga> apparently we need to bug thom about getting bugzilla #13070 fixed
[07:05] <eruin> severity: blocker imho ;-)
[07:14] <Yagisan> deng has been corrected with regards to fhs. Anyone want to give it a once over and advocate it ?
[07:16] <Seveas> \sh, in a clean breezy chroot, the current steghide package is FTBFS too...
[07:17] <Seveas> so it's not the libjpeg things that break it
[07:26] <\sh> Seveas: no gcc4
[07:26] <\sh> Seveas: u r welcome to fix it ,-)
[07:27] <Seveas> \sh, what do you mean bu that? 'gcc4 not used' or 'not compatible with gcc4'?
[07:27] <\sh> Seveas: it's not cleanly coded...fix the gcc4 build issues :)
[07:27] <Seveas> capiche
[07:27] <\sh> it's a gcc4 issue..which has to be fixed
[07:27] <Seveas> I'll try
[07:27] <Seveas> There is a half-baked patch in debian/patches
[07:30] <slomo> \sh: njam has a broken desktop file ;) "MimeType=text/xml;text/x-dtd;text/x-xds;"
[07:32] <\sh> grmpf
[07:32] <\sh> I'll delete this
[07:32] <\sh> I don't need a mime type
[07:33] <\sh> let me enhance gajim right now ;)
[10:05] <Yagisan> all deng-* uploads have been completed, they should be fine. All they need now are some advocates.
[10:19] <hub> hi
[11:07] <bz0b> hey guys
[11:36] <rbelem> hey ogra