[12:00] <c0rrupt_> a
[12:00] <efigyidol> Hello
[12:00] <sorin> sedat: with the arrow keys go to mic
[12:00] <c0rrupt_> wtf spam
[12:00] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, did you load the snd-emu10k series of modules ?
[12:00] <aeruder> Grat: i'm talking to freenode peops about it
[12:00] <sedat> sorin: I did
[12:00] <sorin> sedat: and if it says MM on top of the collumn press m
[12:00] <zoexi> Can anyone reccomend a good hardware compatability database?  I want to buy a usb wireless adaptor, and I don't want too many problems with it.
[12:00] <leo_> now i setuped testing my host www.myanandar.com
[12:01] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Yes sir.
[12:01] <sorin> sedat: "MM" means muted
[12:01] <leo_> can anyone see it or not!
[12:01] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Is there a way to ckeck to be sure?
[12:01] <sedat> sorin: I did
[12:01] <efigyidol> are you there bob2?
[12:01] <token> is your mic working in other applications?
[12:01] <sedat> sorin: pardon
[12:01] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, yes lsmod | grep snd
[12:01] <sedat> sorin: it is on top
[12:01] <sedat> sorin: not mute
[12:01] <johnio> heh
[12:02] <sorin> sedat: so it wasen't muted ???
[12:02] <sedat> token: no it doesnt
[12:02] <sedat> sorin: no it wasnt
[12:02] <leo_> hello
[12:02] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: I don't see it listed.  How do I load it?
[12:02] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, I will put them pn pastebin 1 sec
[12:03] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: ok
[12:03] <efigyidol> can someone please tell me what the X Video Mode extensions headers package is called?
[12:03] <sorin> sedat: have you used the mic before with linux ?? .. .what sound card do you have
[12:03] <sorin> sedat: is it the classic AC97 ?
[12:03] <leo_> hello, can anyone reply my msg ?
[12:03] <Grat> sorin: he already said it works under windows
[12:03] <ninjafish> leo do you have a question?
[12:03] <Grat> leo_ whats your question?
[12:04] <reiki> anyone using SpamAssassin with Evolution actually get it to MARK mail? I can't get it to rewrite headers. Also it appears to be ignoring directives in local.cf and user_prefs.
[12:04] <sedat> sorin: no I didnt use it under linux and yes it is AC97
[12:04] <sorin> Grat: why don't you give him the solution if you know so mutch ?
[12:04] <leo_> i setup testing web www.myanandar.com that is only 1 page.
[12:04] <leo_> can anyone see it?
[12:04] <Grat> sorin: im just saying what he allready said
[12:05] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, these are the modules that I have loaded (from lsmod output) you load them using >> modprobe modulename
[12:05] <sorin> I know what he said you don't have to repeat it
[12:05] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, http://pastebin.ca/20573
[12:05] <sedat> easy man
[12:05] <Grat> so why do you ask for what he allready said?
[12:05] <Liquidfire> why isn't my flash working
[12:05] <Liquidfire> I installed it
[12:05] <Liquidfire> but when i try opening this site
[12:05] <sorin> he said it workes ...
[12:05] <Liquidfire> http://games.activision.com/games/wolfenstein/
[12:05] <LinuxJones> Liquidfire, did you close firefox then restart it ?
[12:05] <Liquidfire> is says plugins are missing
[12:05] <efigyidol> leo: no
[12:05] <Grat> leo_ i cant open it
[12:05] <Liquidfire> yes i did linuxboy
[12:06] <Liquidfire> LinuxJones,
[12:06] <somedude_> can i paste my partition yadda to se if its right?
[12:06] <reiki> Liquidfire: in Firefox?
[12:06] <Liquidfire> i'll try and reinstall it
[12:06] <sorin> but what if he has a soud  card that has driver problems under linux ???
[12:06] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Every one of them?
[12:06] <Liquidfire> yrs
[12:06] <Liquidfire> yes reiki
[12:06] <leo_> i can open in my box.
[12:06] <Grat> leo_ do you have a router?
[12:06] <leo_> what is my problem?
[12:06] <reiki> Liquidfire: and did you completely close firefox after installing and restart firefox?
[12:06] <Grat> or your ISP is maybe blocking that port?
[12:06] <Mr-Data> My letter "T" doesn't work in epiphany's search box or address bar. Any ideas why?
[12:07] <LinuxJones> Liquidfire, put them in your /home/user/.mozilla/plugins   directory
[12:07] <leo_> no, i directly connect with cable modem
[12:07] <sedat> sorin : I am sorry but my sound card is Sis
[12:07] <sedat> sorin : not AC97
[12:07] <Grat> leo_: could you try changing you webserver port to something like 8000 or 8080?
[12:07] <sorin> sedat: ok.. maybe there is a problem with the drivers for sis ...
[12:07] <leo_> ok
[12:07] <thierry> how can I record in a file a online fm radio ?
[12:07] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, not sure which ones most should get loaded automatically do lsmod after each you add until they are all loaded
[12:07] <leo_> how can i restart apache
[12:07] <leo_> i mean command
[12:08] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: WARNING: Error inserting snd_hwdep (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/core/snd-hwdep.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:08] <BTJustice> WARNING: Error inserting snd_rawmidi (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/core/snd-rawmidi.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:08] <BTJustice> WARNING: Error inserting snd_hwdep (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/core/snd-hwdep.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:08] <BTJustice> WARNING: Error inserting snd_rawmidi (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/core/snd-rawmidi.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:08] <sorin> I haven't had any problems of this sort so I can't help you there
[12:08] <BTJustice> FATAL: Error inserting snd_emu10k1 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:08] <Grat> leo_ one second
[12:08] <BTJustice> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_emu10k1
[12:08] <leo_> ok
[12:08] <sorin> sedat: I haven't had any problems of this sort so I can't help you there
[12:08] <Grat> leo_: apachectl restart
[12:08] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, ok firstly don't paste in the channel, you need to sudo -s first to get a root terminal
[12:08] <sedat> sorin : thank you anyway
[12:08] <sorin> sedat: If you want to use skype it's trekey because it dosen't suport alsa
[12:09] <Zartan> Could somebody say what is right driver for Logitech QuickCam Express - webcamera? I have tried get it running right but I didn't find instructions by english.
[12:09] <somedude_> oh yea, is there a command to see what services are listening??
[12:09] <somedude_> lsof?
[12:09] <sorin> sedat: so you have to install oss emulator (or something like that)
[12:09] <Grat> somedude_: netstat -anp?
[12:09] <sorin> sedat: i have kde and skype suports arts
[12:09] <sedat> sorin : I have aquestion about thar
[12:09] <somedude_> Grat, worked! thanks.
[12:09] <sedat> sorin : when I open sound settings I have 2 options
[12:09] <Grat> somedude_: no problem ;>
[12:10] <somedude_> i guess ill be a regular in here.. !!!! :)
[12:10] <somedude_> talk about beeing spoon-feed! ;)
[12:10] <Grat> ah
[12:10] <Grat> i like such support channels
[12:10] <efigyidol> leo: apachectl graceful
[12:10] <sedat> sorin : one SIS S17012 Alsa Mixer
[12:10] <somedude_> true!!
[12:10] <Grat> when i ask for something i usualy get "man netstat"
[12:10] <Grat> :>
[12:10] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: http://pastebin.ca/20574
[12:11] <sedat> sorin: other Realtek ALC203 rev 0 OSS mixer
[12:11] <efigyidol> leo: graceful is a nice way to reload apache with less down time.
[12:11] <sedat> sorin: what is the difference and which one I have to use
[12:11] <sorin> sedat: what version of skype do you have ?
[12:11] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, that's not good the modules are borked for some reason
[12:12] <reiki> ok... embarassing question... I can't find how to STOP spamd :)  anyone?
[12:12] <sedat> sorin: the last because I just download it
[12:12] <bender_> so ya
[12:12] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Am I screwed?
[12:12] <sorin> I am asking because I don't have sutch a option ...
[12:13] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, mine are workign fine, are you sure the soundcard is properly in it's pci slot ?
[12:13] <sorin> sedat: where is it
[12:13] <sorin> ???
[12:13] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Yes and it works fine in WIndows XP
[12:13] <sorin> sedat: do you know what alsa and oss are ?
[12:14] <sedat> sorin: not exactly but it is about sound server or something
[12:14] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, do you have another onboard sound device on your motherboard ?
[12:14] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Yes and it is compeltely disabled.
[12:14] <senile_implant> hello ubuntuers
[12:15] <jp> howdy
[12:15] <RichiH> is the spamfest over?
[12:15] <sedat> sorin: I configured oss because I had difficulties about sound in totem etc.
[12:15] <d2dchat> is there any program in linux that can open up ai (adobe illustrator) files?
[12:16] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, you know what the modules are snd-emu10k1 not snd_emu10k1 (just change the underscore _ with a dash -
[12:16] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, thegimp maybe ?
[12:16] <sedat> sorin: my problem is not about skype I think it can be about microphone because it is embeded in laptop or about these sound server or whatever
[12:17] <d2dchat> im looking through the file associations
[12:17] <d2dchat> and im not sure it does
[12:17] <d2dchat> ill download a test file and see
[12:17] <sorin> sedat: so it's a laptop ... whell then you might have problems just with that.....
[12:17] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: http://pastebin.ca/20578
[12:17] <LinuxJones> d2dchat, that's a graphics program right ?
[12:17] <d2dchat> Adobe Illustrator?
[12:17] <sorin> sedat: laptops have sometimes problems with drivers ...
[12:18] <d2dchat> yes, its a vector gfx program
[12:18] <leo_> i type in terminal like this: apachectl graceful
[12:18] <senile_implant> LinuxJones, illustrator is mostly vector based so i doubt the gimp would be able to do much with it
[12:18] <leo_> but not working
[12:18] <sorin> sedat: if it worked on win there should be no problem...
[12:18] <leo_> i did mistake
[12:18] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, that's retarded :(
[12:18] <Grat> leo_: what error?
[12:18] <sedat> sorin, it worked on win
[12:18] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Welcome to my hell
[12:18] <sorin> sedat: i encourage you to search for similar problems on the same laptop modell
[12:18] <LinuxJones> senile_implant, It was a shot in the dark :)
[12:18] <confrey> hi everybody
[12:18] <sorin> sedat: meaning mic not working...
[12:18] <Grat> ellow confrey
[12:18] <sorin> good luck
[12:19] <senile_implant> LinuxJones, yeah if anything the gimp would be the one to open it, but i have my doubts
[12:19] <confrey> how can I load realtime module? I get 'invalid parameter'
[12:19] <topyli> d2dchat: inkscape should be able to open them
[12:19] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, although it is not a good way to fix it but a re-install might be the best answer
[12:19] <sedat> but I think no one using ubuntu on this machine not linux either
[12:19] <leo_> i want to restart apache cos i changed port 80 to 8080
[12:19] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: That's what I was thinking.  It sucks, but I am out of options.
[12:19] <sedat> exactly mic not working
[12:20] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, there is no reason for those modules not being able to be loaded
[12:20] <H0lyD4wg> what is the right way of installing a different version of a package that exists in the repositories? (e.g. newer versions of programs, emacs-bidi instead of plain emacs etc.)
[12:20] <leo_> i dont know how to reload apache fastly
[12:20] <sedat> sorin, anyway thank you very much for your help
[12:20] <leo_> i don't want to restart computer
[12:20] <jkossen> leo_: /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[12:20] <leo_> ok
[12:20] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Alright, I'll do a reinstall.  Thanks for your help.
[12:21] <trozoid> hello
[12:21] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, good luck
[12:21] <jp> leo_ sudo apache2ctl-graceful
[12:21] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: We'll hope, lol.
[12:21] <LinuxJones> :)
[12:21] <jp> that's the faster way to do that
[12:21] <six2one> is anyone in here an avit wine user?
[12:21] <six2one> avid*
[12:22] <flugh> i'm a beer guy myself
[12:22] <senile_implant> i like white wine :)
[12:23] <six2one> haha
[12:23] <Styxxy> hi
[12:23] <senile_implant> yay only 5 days, 17 hours until this torrent is done lol
[12:23] <Styxxy> does anybody know of uli chipset 1695 and linux compatibility????
[12:24] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[12:24] <mactiny> how stable is colony 3
[12:24] <trozoid> works ok for me
[12:25] <mactiny> what else is still left to be done before final release
[12:25] <oonoon> the power management just holds when a laptop works on battery, doesn't it ? 'cause my computer shuts down by itself even when it is not working on its battery
[12:25] <mactiny> can we expect any theme tweaks
[12:26] <six2one> in col 3 i am having a prob getting apt to work right
[12:26] <synack> anyone using fluxbox?
[12:26] <six2one> there is some package manager running in the background and locking the dirs
[12:27] <six2one> ive reproduced this on 3 diff machines
[12:27] <leo_> i changed port 8080
[12:27] <Grat> synack i would if my mouse would work
[12:27] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[12:27] <leo_> can anyone see www.myanandar.com
[12:27] <Grat> leo_ i can se it
[12:27] <Grat> but you have to open it
[12:27] <Grat> www.myanandar.com:8080
[12:28] <Grat> your ISP probably has the port closed
[12:28] <aru> I installed enlightenment but it didnt add to the gdm menu, how do I add it?
[12:28] <LinuxJones> six2one, you have synaptic open and using apt from the command line at the same time ?
[12:29] <dazaro> Buenas
[12:29] <dazaro> COmo inicio shell en ubuntu?
[12:29] <dazaro> Gracias
[12:29] <leo_> do you mean people must type www.myanandar.com:8080 for my test site?
[12:29] <Grat> leo_ yes
[12:29] <somedude_> i want to install an http server is it "apt-get intall apache"????
[12:29] <Grat> port 80 is default, but it seems that your isp has it blocked
[12:29] <Styxxy> does somebody know of uli chipset 1695 and linux compatibility????
[12:29] <kemik> somedude_:  yes, that or apaceh2
[12:30] <kemik> sp... :/
[12:30] <LinuxJones> somedude_, you can apt-cache search apache for a listing of all apache packages
[12:30] <Styxxy> google says nothing to that
[12:30] <Grat> leo_: contact them and ask them if they can open it for you (and then change port back to 80) or use that kind of name
[12:30] <somedude_> i got a million thingies?.. paste here?
[12:30] <leo_> how can i redirect port 80 being blocked by isp?
[12:31] <six2one> LinuxJones, thats just it, ubuntu runs some package manager from the get go on startup, i have no interaction from it..then when you login it says there are updates and when you try to update it says the dirs are locked.....also....all my TTY's EXCEPT 7 is gone, no display
[12:31] <H0lyD4wg> what should i do if i want to use custom-built versions of some packages?
[12:31] <LinuxJones> six2one, yikes
[12:31] <Grat> leo_: contact your isp and ask them about it
[12:31] <LinuxJones> six2one, that's colony 3 ?
[12:31] <oonoon> without 3d accel, ive got 150 FPS, thats very low isn't it ?
[12:32] <LinuxJones> oonoon, yeah fine for general desktop stuff but not for 3d games
[12:32] <six2one> LinuxJones, ive tried this on a xp 3200+ abit nf7 board, a 1.8 p4, and my 1.6 centrino thinkpad and same on all on them...yes its 3
[12:32] <leo_> if they don't do it, what i can do for it
[12:32] <bersi> ive got 170 FPS
[12:32] <oonoon> LinuxJones: when i launch a screensaver preview, the shit is slow like hell, i dont understand where does it come from (there're no heavy app running in the background)
[12:33] <leo_> can i use some ways like port redirection?
[12:33] <LinuxJones> six2one, apparently I won't be upgrading to colony 3 after all :)
[12:33] <xxx_> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:33] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[12:33] <Liquidfire> anyone a wiki on how to mount my ntfs
[12:33] <LinuxJones> oonoon, yeah it's probably a 3d screensaver
[12:33] <cyphase> LinuxJones, it still has a few bugs
[12:33] <Liquidfire> i want to read them
[12:33] <Liquidfire> =/
[12:33] <LinuxJones> cyphase, I can wait a few more weeks :)
[12:33] <cyphase> but it's great
[12:33] <cyphase> :)
[12:33] <cyphase> i have it on my dev machine..
[12:33] <six2one> LinuxJones, just wait...ive been testing all of them and they keep getting better and better...when breezy is out it will be sweet! aside from the apt issue..it feels totally stable
[12:33] <Grat> leo_: you can make an account on zoneedit, put your domain there and use the webforward option
[12:34] <cyphase> accessing it through VNC
[12:34] <cyphase> six2one, what's your favorite improvement :)
[12:34] <Grat> leo_: then they will forward your domain to http://yourip:8080
[12:34] <oonoon> LinuxJones: do we really need a 3000 FPS to run correctly a simple 3d screensaver ? (in fact, that's very slow even for 2d screensaver, like Matrix)
[12:34] <leo_> can i also use afraid.org?
[12:35] <d2dchat> how can i ftp via console
[12:35] <d2dchat> ?
[12:35] <Grat> leo_: i dont know if afraid has that option. i prefer zoneedit
[12:35] <leo_> ok, i will do
[12:35] <six2one> cyphase, i am not sure....its alot of stuff i guess....aside from gcc4 and what not, i would just say that its ubuntu how it should be, my thinkpad loves it and you cant go wring with debian
[12:35] <LinuxJones> oonoon, I am just guessing that's the problem, most monitors these days don't even need a screensaver.
[12:35] <cyphase> :)
[12:36] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[12:36] <LinuxJones> six2one, that's good news !!
[12:36] <cyphase> hoary was pretty user fiendly, but not quite enough for a newbie
[12:36] <cyphase> Breezy looks like it'll make it
[12:36] <Grat> leo_: i think if you ask the isp nicely they should open the port, if not call them every 2 hours for a few days and cry on the phone :>
[12:37] <six2one> as far as my opinion goes......its pretty much in my day to day life at work and what not...its ubuntu vs fedora vs free bsd/gentoo
[12:37] <aru> is there a gui to add new sessions to GDM?
[12:37] <cyphase> aru, i think so
[12:37] <cyphase> lemme check
[12:37] <topyli> d2dchat: there's gftp-text, or ncftp, or plain ftp, or many others. mc does ftp too
[12:37] <aru> cyphase: I can't seem to figure out what it is, XFCE added automaticly, but E didn't
[12:38] <six2one> i build alot of ltsp servers and out of the box fedora is best because i use ibm client access to connect to an as400, and my other servers are all bsd and im migrating to gentoo.
[12:38] <cyphase> beagle is nice too
[12:39] <cyphase> and it's only alpha
[12:39] <sedat>  I installed java  sdk and set path. When I use console everything is fine but when I try to run jar files from gui it says not installed jre. What can be wrong
[12:39] <six2one> my ltsp servers would be ubuntu if getting client access (RPM) installed with alien wasnt a hack job
[12:39] <topyli> cyphase: yeah beagle rocks
[12:39] <ninjafish> six2one bt can you deal with the gentoo and update build time
[12:39] <cyphase> topyli, instant updates..
[12:39] <cyphase> :)
[12:40] <topyli> yep
[12:40] <Webby`> I can't install Breezy. I get the following error: An error was returned while trying to install the intrid-tools package onto the target system. Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details
[12:40] <Webby`> What do i do?
[12:40] <Webby`> How do i check that file?
[12:40] <ninjafish> dtd chat use the command ftp??
[12:40] <six2one> ninjafish, i do have time for that but i am interested in trying something other than bsd <----not a fun operating system
[12:40] <Quest-Master> Webby`: Do and md5sum check
[12:40] <six2one> jails kick ass though
[12:40] <penguin_roar> hi!
[12:40] <napsy> Hello. Is there any information ot the breezy status. Is it still broken or is it 'safe' to upgrade?
[12:40] <six2one> wait on breezy
[12:41] <cyphase> Webby`, have you reported it?
[12:41] <Webby`> Nope
[12:41] <Webby`> I can't log onto my comp
[12:41] <Webby`> I get a grub error now
[12:41] <Webby`> Error 17
[12:41] <LinuxJones> six2one, ubuntu is working hard on LTSP for Ubuntu, hopefully a stable release around the same time as  Breezy
[12:41] <cyphase> uh, your on a computer now
[12:41] <cyphase> so report it :)
[12:41] <Webby`> Oh
[12:41] <Webby`> hehe
[12:41] <Webby`> How do I report it?
[12:41] <Webby`> I mean where?
[12:41] <cyphase> go to the ubuntu site
[12:41] <cyphase> you'll find it
[12:41] <cyphase> ubuntu.com
[12:41] <bender_> im
[12:41] <bender_> bord
[12:42] <Webby`> ok
[12:42] <ninjafish> bender only boring people get bored
[12:42] <bender_> i must really be borring
[12:42] <cyphase> napsy, breezy is still in Colony (alpha) 3. unless your willing to alpha test it and put up with the problems, don't install it
[12:42] <ninjafish> bender lol
[12:42] <napsy> ok
[12:42] <six2one> LinuxJones, ive been following that...it would be great news for me.....people might come in on monday and have ubuntu ltsp clients instead of xp machines and there isnt anything they can do about it
[12:43] <cyphase> :)
[12:43] <penguin_roar> does anyone know how you best setup profiles in linux?
[12:43] <Webby`> How do I check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log on my comp?
[12:43] <penguin_roar> Im setting up a really big linux terminal server
[12:43] <cyphase> anyone know when ubuntu is going to have full support for openMosix and Xen?
[12:43] <aru> gdmsetup doesn't actually let me add anything...
[12:43] <tristanmike> six2one, great job! good to hear :)
[12:43] <six2one> penguin_roar, how many clients/what will they be doing?
[12:43] <LinuxJones> six2one, that would be so funny :D
[12:43] <ninjafish> six2one I want the whole call center where I work to have linux, that will stop them messing up the machines
[12:44] <vladuz976> i remember there being a gtk application that showed you the name of the fonts to use to define int he term
[12:44] <vladuz976> anybody know
[12:44] <penguin_roar> six2one: surf, write letters and office stuff
[12:44] <cyphase> ninjafish, they had some kind of white paper at LinuxWorld about setting up a call center with LTSP
[12:44] <six2one> i have 2 nt servers left and they are leaving as soon as i get LDAP up and running
[12:44] <cyphase> including VoIP phones
[12:44] <ifr> Anyone using keychain to manage ssh passwords?
[12:44] <penguin_roar> six2one: about 500 users, pretty big in my world
[12:45] <cyphase> i can't wait until ubuntu has an easy http/dns/smtp server config
[12:45] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[12:45] <LinuxJones> penguin_roar, how may server are you using ?
[12:45] <LinuxJones> err many
[12:45] <cyphase> easy as in my dad could do it
[12:45] <ifr> cyphase: check apachefriends.org
[12:45] <cyphase> he's a technician, but servers, e knows nothing about
[12:45] <penguin_roar> six2one: i want to be able to have some settings from gnome, firefox and OO setup right from the moment their accounts are created
[12:45] <windex> penguin_roar, how many terminal servers are you configuring for those 500 users?
[12:45] <cyphase> ifr, you mean XAMPP, right?
[12:45] <Liquidfire> i've installed everything for dvd play
[12:45] <ifr> Yeah, that was it
[12:45] <Liquidfire> the region free libs
[12:46] <Liquidfire> but when i try to play one
[12:46] <ifr> Not easy enough?
[12:46] <Liquidfire> everything hangs
[12:46] <Liquidfire> :?
[12:46] <penguin_roar> LinuxJones: ill just add machines as the servers get overloaded, i use XDMCP load balancing and NX Server
[12:46] <cyphase> ifr, i've tried it, but it's better to use the default packages
[12:46] <cyphase> they just need to be a little easier
[12:46] <umboto> how do i change the gnome icon, the main menu foot icon
[12:46] <LinuxJones> penguin_roar, cool
[12:46] <umboto> to something else
[12:46] <six2one> penguin_roar,  thats a pretty big server....lol...mine are all pretty passive...i work at a tier 2 gm supplier and the terms are out in a bad enviroment (than god for via edens!!!) and its about 25 terms in each of 4 locations and they just sit in gnome with firefox and client access (telnet) running all day and the load is like always 0
[12:46] <six2one> for 500 you will want a few servers
[12:46] <ifr> cyphase, I know what you mean but for my dad having it all in one place was easier for him. . .
[12:46] <cyphase> instead of having to set up zones and such for dns, you just say "make mail.myserver.com point here"
[12:46] <windex> penguin_roar, there's a way to configure the defaults in each application under the share directories.
[12:46] <ifr> yeah I see what you mean.
[12:46] <cyphase> ifr, yea
[12:47] <six2one> although msi makes that opteron board that can have 64gb of ram now..lol
[12:47] <ifr> okay, going twice: anyone using keychain for ssh password mgmt?
[12:47] <penguin_roar> six2one: i suspect so, i have ran 40 concurrent users on a two plug server and that was over the top a bit
[12:47] <Xenguy> ifr: yes...
[12:47] <xsadikx> how do i install fonts on ubuntu?
[12:47] <ifr> Xenguy, great: got a couple of questions.
[12:47] <ninjafish> six2one, I would not use telnet anymore, why not use ssh?
[12:47] <Xenguy> ifr: but you should just ask your question instead of 'polling' :-)
[12:48] <ifr> xsadikx, make a directory called ~/.fonts and dump em in
[12:48] <xsadikx> ok
[12:48] <penguin_roar> windex: ok, i just hoped i could find a way to manage a couple of profiles
[12:48] <six2one> ninjafish, untill i get my P.O. for a new 80,000 iSeries....my as400 only runs telnet
[12:48] <six2one> :(
[12:48] <six2one> but the new ones run ssh
[12:48] <six2one> my box is 5/6 years old
[12:49] <ifr> Xenguy, yeah, I guess so. okay: I have a gentoo box I want to sign into and am wondering how this will work....I set it up on the ubuntu box with the pasword and over on the gentoo box with the password it expects and...And then my conceptualization falls apart
[12:49] <penguin_roar> windex: but i guess i can use file rights to choose what setup different groups of users see
[12:49] <windex> penguin_roar, you can also set up a dummy user, configure their settings, then copy all the '.' folders into the skeleton that adduser uses
[12:49] <six2one> with a single power pc 733 or something
[12:49] <cyphase> who here that's tried Colony 3 thinks that it's a good choice for a newbie windows user?
[12:49] <windex> penguin_roar, you can also write your own scripts to manage multiple skeleton accounts.
[12:49] <six2one> it will be a good choice
[12:49] <six2one> when its official
[12:49] <cyphase> yea
[12:49] <cyphase> that's what i meant :)
[12:49] <six2one> haha
[12:50] <Xenguy> ifr: I just use keychain to manage agents on my local box, so not really sure
[12:50] <ninjafish> cyphase a newbie should not use beta software really
[12:50] <cyphase> Add/Remove Programs is muuuuch better
[12:50] <penguin_roar> windex: i used /etc/skel on my previous server and it worked pretty well except when i want to change a setting for all the users at the same time
[12:50] <cyphase> ninjafish, i know
[12:50] <cyphase> i meant to say when it's final
[12:50] <ifr> AH. Thanks. Anyone know how I can use an ssh agent through keychain to log into ssh servers (on another box) without a password
[12:50] <ifr> ?
[12:50] <six2one> the ONLY hardware related problem i had is that this crappy ifeel mouse thats super crappy...its scroll doesnt work
[12:50] <cyphase> oh, good
[12:50] <windex> penguin_roar, if you know what file you want to edit, you can make a shell script to locate the files and make the change on all the profiles.
[12:50] <cyphase> i thought it was only me :)
[12:50] <Xenguy> ifr: read the documentation tho - you can do that kind of thing (IIUC) on remote boxen
[12:51] <oonoon> the cdplayer of ubuntu is a disaster, worse than win media player; crashs all the time
[12:51] <penguin_roar> windex: i think i will try using the files in /usr/share this time
[12:51] <cyphase> six2one, do you have any X problems?
[12:51] <vladuz976> Main normal text font; resource font. <--anybody know where that resource is?
[12:51] <windex> penguin_roar, might be better. those defaults are used unless the user has overridden them, typically
[12:51] <ninjafish> I think that the newbie finds windows easier becuase it is already installed and configured when they buy the pc.
[12:51] <ifr> Xenguy, yes, I've read it but it gets awfully confusing for me at the junction of the two machines!
[12:51] <cyphase> everything has a kind of shadow across the screen
[12:51] <cyphase> ninjafish, i second that
[12:52] <Xenguy> ifr: nod - it takes a while to grok those interactions
[12:52] <ifr> :)
[12:52] <six2one> cyphase, umm...you know....kinda.....when its booting up...it like dies on TTY7 where it should be and if i filp through 1-6 once and then go back to 7 its fine...i had the problem with col 2 and 1 that when you use apt x dies hard after restart
[12:52] <ifr> I'll install on both and come back when it's in tatters and try to get it going; thanks Xenguy
[12:52] <ninjafish> if my laptop came configured correctly with linux I would probably complain becuase XP does not have the drivers for my wierd network hardware and sound card
[12:52] <Xenguy> ifr: hehe - have fun
[12:53] <penguin_roar> windex: thanks man, i really should write a howto when im done about this, not much info on this on the net
[12:53] <Xenguy> ifr: P.S. I suspect that googling this might yield some good clues for you
[12:53] <xsadikx> i want to install a irssi theme like this one: http://www.irssi.org/themes/screwer.png but i dont have that font.. i dunno what font that is but it looks nice.. where can i get fixed width fonts like terminal?
[12:53] <cyphase> six2one, any install problems
[12:53] <windex> penguin_roar, that's true for any mass thin client installation.
[12:54] <cyphase> the ncurses interface stopped at 83% for me, so i went to tty4 (the plain text output)
[12:54] <cyphase> i'm writing a review at the moment
[12:54] <windex> penguin_roar, and it's been true all the way back to the days of wise text terminals.
[12:55] <cyphase> and it shows the password when you create the new user at install. better for newbies who will think it's broken
[12:55] <penguin_roar> windex: i have been fiddeling with citrix and its no piece of cake to setup either, linux is easier but lacks documentation
[12:55] <longfeather> hello, I have a problem with my keyboard (stops working, mouse is fine) while using Ubuntu and would like some guidance in regards to resources/solutions/ect
[12:55] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[12:55] <kemik> ninjafish:  well, winxp is sort of easier than ubuntu though.. multimedia support as an example. multiple sounds etc
[12:55] <six2one> cyphase, yes..it tries to apt during the end of the install and freezes....and it wont unfreeze, then thats about the time i push the power button and restart and then it will boot to X and then thats why i suspect that could be the reason NO package managers will work in the giu/command line. it says the dirs are locked by another manager than is no where to be found
[12:56] <kemik> Ice9:  use VLC or mplayer instead of totem :)
[12:56] <bender_> totem is way better
[12:56] <Ice9> kemik, they won't even read the dvd.. :/
[12:56] <cyphase> six2one, i didn't need to restart
[12:56] <kemik> totem is "teh suck"
[12:56] <cyphase> i just went to the plain text output to see it going
[12:56] <Ice9> I'm using xine anyways
[12:56] <penguin_roar> kemik: until you try sharing a stupid printer amongst a couple of computers, i was bitten badly at work on friday by that pile of ****
[12:56] <longfeather> I have not found any relevant info from google
[12:56] <windex> penguin_roar, the neat hacks, btw, are the ones to use the sun plug-and-go hardware under linux, where you just move a card around and it takes your session with you.
[12:56] <ninjafish> kemik true,
[12:57] <six2one> cyphase, i probably didnt either but i was out of nerves waiting
[12:57] <kemik> Ice9:  what sort of dvd is that? i've not come across much that neither mplayer/vlc would play
[12:57] <cyphase> lol
[12:57] <six2one> i changed to tty 4 and it was stuck there as well
[12:57] <Ice9> well I'm not sure if it matters, but when it mounts, its mounts cdrom0
[12:57] <cyphase> six2one, stuck on what?
[12:57] <kemik> ninjafish:  even though ubuntu is getting better, it's not quite there yet (but most has todo with hardware support, and that's the manufacturers "fault" )
[12:58] <cyphase> did it say "Preconfiguring packages ..."?
[12:58] <penguin_roar> windex: havent sen that, i did ponder putting the users settings on usb sticks but gave it up since i want them to be able to access their desktops from computers that dont have usb support
[12:58] <ninjafish> I remember when MSDOS and win 3.1 was around. not to long ago. you had to mess with config.sys and autoexec.bat to get different things to run.(and networking was mental). I think that is where linux is at the moment in useability stakes
[12:58] <six2one> cyphase, the apt portion of the install, it was trying to download...i think it might have been the preconfigure
[12:58] <somedude_> ive tried to install and upgrade a SERVEr install of ubuntu.. now i tried apt-get install apache2 and got this error: Setting up apache2 (2.0.53-5ubuntu5.2) ...
[12:58] <somedude_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:58] <somedude_>  linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[12:58] <somedude_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:58] <longfeather> I'm talking a toshiba satellite laptop, so I can't change keyboards...
[12:58] <kemik> ninjafish:  well, it's not quite THAT bad...
[12:58] <tryingsomething> have a little thing keeping me from booting ubuntu - have it installed but tried installing booter on floppy - wont work
[12:59] <cyphase> six2one, at that point, i went back to the ncurses interface and kept pressing Ctrl+C, Ctrl+D, etc
[12:59] <kemik> ninjafish:  remember how you setup like a gazillion boot-options to tweak some more memory out for certain apps etc ;)
[12:59] <windex> penguin_roar, the sun thin client stuff is $$$ anyway
[12:59] <johnio> hello
[12:59] <cyphase> six2one, it came up in a few sentences asking for my choice of dictionary
[12:59] <cyphase> seconds*
[12:59] <six2one> i hit ctrl c a few times then it "locked for 4 minutes"
[12:59] <longfeather> older model (3y old): 1800 series
[12:59] <ninjafish> kemik 640k was all you had and emm386 ahhhgg!!!
[12:59] <cyphase> where'd sentences come from..
[12:59] <kemik> ninjafish:  and editing *anything* required reboot etc :)
[12:59] <tryingsomething> tried installing it on mbr just like it said - that didnt work either
[12:59] <nerp> wee
[01:00] <Varanger> hi!
[01:00] <penguin_roar> windex: yes, and from what i could see they arent that safe aither, i much rather have all the traffic encrypted with ssl and ssh
[01:00] <nerp> got E17 almost working properly
[01:00] <Varanger> how can I make Totem play MP3 files??
[01:00] <Varanger> It says it is unsupported...
[01:00] <nerp> Varanger: get the mp3 plugins for totem
[01:00] <ninjafish> varanger see the wiki on restricted formats
[01:00] <penguin_roar> nerp: you are my complete hero, i tried and burned like an iraqi oil field
[01:00] <somedude_> anyone??
[01:00] <Hoxzer> how can I check the specs of my comp
[01:00] <ninjafish> you need gstreamer stuff
[01:00] <cuk> good evening, have a problem about downloading with firefox, anybody can help?
[01:00] <nerp> penguin_roar: it's taken some time & effot
[01:00] <nerp> err, effort
[01:01] <johnio> I heard something about the restricted-modules being mounted in breezy, how does that work?
[01:01] <somedude_> Hoxzer, cat /proc/cpuinfo | less
[01:01] <topyli> Varanger: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:01] <oonoon> does someone know how to boot on console , not on X
[01:01] <penguin_roar> nerp, i wish some dist would take e17 under its wings
[01:01] <kemik> !mp3
[01:01] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[01:01] <longfeather> can anyone help with my keyboard prob?
[01:01] <somedude_> penguin_roar, do a server install
[01:01] <aeruder> oonoon: everytime or just once ?
[01:01] <somedude_> thats what i did
[01:01] <nerp> penguin_roar: it'll be a realease soon enough, I am just playing with it for now..
[01:01] <oonoon> aeruder : everytime
[01:01] <kemik> longfeather:  you've got to supply more information than that...
[01:01] <nerp> going back to fluxbox until it gets past pre-alpha
[01:02] <johnio> i can't seem to modprobe nvidia, even though I got nvidia-glx and restricted-modules installed
[01:02] <aeruder> oonoon: go into /etc/rc2.d
[01:02] <aeruder> these are your startup scripts
[01:02] <penguin_roar> nerp: well im here jumping up and down
[01:02] <longfeather> sure thing, please advise what info is needed
[01:02] <nerp> penguin_roar:  want a screen?
[01:02] <aeruder> rename S99xdm to _99xdm and any other offending *dm's ;)
[01:02] <penguin_roar> nerp, please =)
[01:02] <bz0b> yo can someone see this?
[01:02] <cuk> i cannot download anything, even extensions, i would like to install opera, does anybody know how i could do it without using firefox?
[01:02] <nerp> sec
[01:02] <Varanger> topyli: Thanks!
[01:02] <johnio> hey bz0k
[01:02] <bz0b> hey
[01:02] <aru> how do I stop GDM from starting?
[01:03] <kemik> cuk:  isnt opera in the repositories?
[01:03] <nerp> oh, here's something funny too:
[01:03] <bz0b> brb
[01:03] <longfeather> this issue is like a phantom - seems to happen more often when I am running apt-get or the synamtic package manager
[01:03] <nerp>  Windows: a 32 bit shell for a 16 bit task manager for an 8 bit os written for a 4 bit CPU by a 2 bit company that cant stand 1 bit of  competition
[01:03] <Xenguy> aru: uninstall it?
[01:03] <aeruder> aru: look what i just told oonoon
[01:03] <Hoxzer> Somedude: well now it says "end" what button I should press cause ctrl + C isn't working
[01:03] <cuk> no
[01:03] <aru> aeruder: I just got here
[01:03] <aeruder> aru: oops, you came in after
[01:03] <aru> :)
[01:03] <aeruder> oonoon: go into /etc/rc2.d
[01:03] <SuperQ> anyone know how I can convince the installer to NOT use DMA on an IDE disk?
[01:03] <aeruder> these are your startup scripts
[01:03] <aeruder> rename S99xdm to _99xdm and any other offending *dm's ;)
[01:03] <longfeather> thing is that I cannot pinpoint the source/cause - no error message in the syslog, no indication or lead to follow
[01:03] <aeruder> (or S99gdm to _99gdm of course ;))
[01:03] <somedude_> Hoxzer, any button?
[01:03] <Xenguy> aeruder: why not just apt-get remove x/g/k/dm ?
[01:04] <cuk> unfortunately not
[01:04] <Hoxzer> Somedube: It says "log file" then
[01:04] <somedude_> Hoxzer, ESC?
[01:04] <oonoon> aeruder: what does the S mean ?
[01:04] <tryingsomething> anyone know why a floppy  boot wont work?
[01:04] <aeruder> Xenguy: *shrug*
[01:04] <tryingsomething> is it because my install is on a sata drive?
[01:04] <somedude_> Hoxzer, lol i dont know..
[01:04] <aeruder> oonoon: it runs all the S##scripts in alphabetical order
[01:04] <Hoxzer> "logg file ssss press return
[01:04] <somedude_> Hoxzer, your keyboard is setup wrong???
[01:04] <longfeather> thought it might be a hardware/driver issue, it's really hard to start collecting any type of relevant info when I have no where to start
[01:04] <Xenguy> oonoon: just apt-get remove gdm
[01:04] <Hoxzer> Somedube: q worked out
[01:05] <cuk> firefox also crashes when i press ctrl+shift+tab
[01:05] <kemik> penguin_roar:  well, windows has always been bitching with networks. a total mess :/
[01:05] <cuk> but the downloading is what bothers me
[01:05] <oonoon> Xenguy : i'm not talking about uninstalling gdm
[01:05] <aru> aeruder: yeah I have no idea what to do with any of that stuff
[01:05] <somedude_> Hoxzer, =)
[01:05] <tryingsomething> guess im gonna try another distro
[01:05] <aeruder> aru well apt-get remove gdm works too
[01:05] <ifr> Hey, how can I discover which protocol of ssh I'm using; I assume it's 2, but how can I tell?
[01:05] <flugh> anyone have a link to a postgresql 8.x repository for hoary?
[01:05] <Xenguy> oonoon: you want to boot to a console, yes?
[01:05] <longfeather> any ideas to gather more info would be appreciated
[01:05] <nerp> ok, snapping it now...
[01:05] <kemik> cuk:  firefox been like that all the time?
[01:06] <somedude_> how do i install the linux kernel packeade???????
[01:06] <oonoon> Xenguy : indeed
[01:06] <somedude_> how do i install the linux kernel package???
[01:06] <aeruder> ifr: try the -2 option to ssh to force v2
[01:06] <cuk> yes
[01:06] <aeruder> ifr: if that works, it will be ssh v2
[01:06] <Xenguy> oonoon: I rest my case :-)
[01:06] <penguin_roar> kemik: tell me, i find bugs daily
[01:06] <kemik> cuk:  maybe just remove your ~/.mozilla-firefox folder
[01:06] <aeruder> (it always tries 2 first)
[01:06] <ifr> Ah, thanks aeruder!
[01:06] <cuk> i mean it is a fresh install
[01:06] <oonoon> Xenguy : ok :)
[01:06] <kemik> cuk:  oh.. damn :(
[01:06] <cuk> i upgraded
[01:06] <cuk> hehe
[01:06] <penguin_roar> somedude_: sudo apt-get install kernel-sources
[01:06] <ifr> Yep, 2 it is, Aeruder, thanks
[01:07] <aeruder> ifr: sure
[01:07] <cuk> kemik?
[01:07] <somedude_> penguin_roar, thanks!
[01:07] <six2one> is anyone here familiar with wine?
[01:07] <cuk> you don't like my name
[01:07] <somedude_> nope, didnt work penguin_roar
[01:07] <cuk> ?
[01:07] <kemik> cuk:  if it's a fresh install and firefox is broken.. that's no good
[01:07] <somedude_> E: Couldn't find package kernel-sources
[01:07] <charles> anyone have rails + apache working?
[01:07] <Xenguy> six2one: that's called 'polling' - what is your actual question?
[01:07] <nerp> penguin_roar: http://gawth.org/code/ss1.jpg
[01:08] <cuk> well i had some trouble with a horrible cdma modem
[01:08] <penguin_roar> nerp, c3wl!
[01:08] <somedude_> aaaa a screenshot of mee and my Q!!!!!
[01:08] <penguin_roar> nerp: very neat indeed
[01:08] <cuk> if i could download opera i would be happy
[01:08] <somedude_> E: Couldn't find package kernel-sources
[01:08] <longfeather> kemic: any ideas?
[01:08] <penguin_roar> somedude_: wait
[01:09] <owtput> does anyone know if libstdc is part of the toolchain?
[01:09] <somedude_> ok penguin_roar!
[01:09] <owtput> ++
[01:09] <aeruder> somedude_: apt-get install kernel-sources-`uname -r`
[01:09] <kemik> longfeather:  i've missed your question...
[01:10] <aeruder> or something along those lines :)
[01:10] <six2one> Xenguy, i installed the most recent wine yesterday on a diff machine and when i installed a program it automatically put a desktop shortcut to run the program...picasa2 for example...now it does not on my thinkpad..i installed the same way as i did before. how do i get wine to automatically create launchers for installed programs...
[01:10] <nerp> maybe import won't work under E17
[01:10] <somedude_> aeruder, if youre not sure pleeease let me know! >;)
[01:10] <LinuxJones> somedude_, ubuntu calls it linux-source
[01:10] <aru> if i go to remove gdm it says I need to remove ubuntu-desktop also
[01:10] <Xenguy> six2one: dunno - can you just manually create a launcher?
[01:10] <crimsun> very rarely do you actually need linux-source
[01:10] <ifr> Anyone have any idea about this:  "The file named id_dsa.pub is your public key, which you should append to a file named ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the server" - they mean my user name on the remote box's ~/.ssh/authorized_user, right?
[01:10] <aeruder> aru: that's ok
[01:10] <aeruder> aru: just remove it
[01:10] <SuperQ> how do I get ubuntu to not use DMA on IDE?
[01:11] <somedude_> LinuxJones, apt-get install linux-source doesnt work
[01:11] <topyli> somedude_: the kernel-source packages are debian packages from universe. use linux-source-<arch>
[01:11] <crimsun> if you're compiling an external module, use linux-headers-$(uname -r) instead
[01:11] <aeruder> aru: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that just brings in a bunch of dependencies
[01:11] <longfeather> kemic: the issue is like a phantom, not showing any errors in the syslog, I can't think of anything to try to gather more info, any ideas?
[01:11] <aeruder> aru: apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop for more info
[01:11] <six2one> Xenguy, i am not sure because its a virtual windows drive and i donr know how to path it correctly
[01:11] <somedude_> topyli, <arch>?
[01:11] <LinuxJones> somedude_, apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)
[01:11] <crimsun> somedude_: what are you trying to do?
[01:11] <somedude_> LinuxJones, whats that on the end???
[01:11] <penguin_roar> somedude_: linux-source-2.6.10
[01:11] <aru> I don't want to destroy the machine, I just want to boot into E
[01:11] <kemik> longfeather:  not really... :/
[01:11] <topyli> somedude_: your architecture. 686, k6
[01:11] <LinuxJones> somedude_, that will download the source for the kernel your running
[01:11] <Xenguy> six2one: hrm, not sure
[01:12] <somedude_> crimsun, install the apache package and it complains about the kernel package i thnk
[01:12] <zukalk> nerp, that screenshot.. is that enlightment?
[01:12] <nerp> zukalk: yes
[01:12] <topyli> somedude_: except the sources of course aren't for an achitecture. sorry :)
[01:12] <crimsun> somedude_: what package?
[01:12] <nerp> e17
[01:12] <longfeather> kemic: damn... thx anyway
[01:12] <LinuxJones> somedude_, goto terminal and type uname -r , it tells you the kernel version your running
[01:12] <six2one> Xenguy, wine works as should, it runs the programs..just no nice and clean launcher in the desktop...which IS different than a program shortcut cause ive seen both
[01:12] <crimsun> apache should not depend on linux-headers OR linux-source
[01:12] <somedude_> LinuxJones, E: Couldn't find package linux-source-2.6.10-5-386
[01:12] <penguin_roar> somedude_: do apache want the sources for the kernel?
[01:12] <zukalk> nerp, do you know how i can get it to show in the gdm logon screen? i apt-getted enlightment but i don't know how to use it
[01:13] <ifr> Anyone even Understand my last question/?
[01:13] <titanium> anyone familiar with proftpd? my server is behind a router and i'm having trouble getting active working. strangely enough, pasv works. with active i get 425 could not build data connection
[01:13] <aru> zukalk: I'm trying to figure out the same thing
[01:13] <Xenguy> six2one: I assume that somehow you need to find out and specify the path; that's about all I can suggest
[01:13] <leo_> can anyone show how to web forward in zoneedit cos port80 being blocked ?
[01:13] <LinuxJones> somedude_, apt-get update first
[01:13] <cafuego> titanium: active needs to have port 20 open
[01:13] <six2one> Xenguy, thanks
[01:13] <Xenguy> six2one: good luck
[01:13] <cafuego> titanium: (as well as 21)
[01:13] <zukalk> aru, i'm not alone then ;)
[01:13] <longfeather> another topic of interest: can anyone help with setting up IPSEC to secure a wireless connection?
[01:13] <LinuxJones> somedude_, that will update all the software packages in the ubuntu repositories
[01:13] <nerp> zukalk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105&highlight=E17
[01:14] <somedude_> after running apt-get update i did: apt-get install apache2 and get this: etting up apache2 (2.0.53-5ubuntu5.2) ...
[01:14] <somedude_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:14] <somedude_>  linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[01:14] <somedude_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:14] <titanium> cafuego: my server is running on port 4096
[01:14] <zukalk> nerp, thanks
[01:14] <bender_> so ya
[01:14] <nerp> no prob
[01:14] <titanium> cafuego: and what do you mean 'open'
[01:14] <cafuego> titanium: then god knows what it does witha ctive connections
[01:14] <pcharky> Hello, can anybody help me get the line-in on my soundcard working?
[01:14] <crimsun> somedude_: that has nothing to do with linux-source or linux-headers, much as I suspected
[01:14] <penguin_roar> somedude_: looks as if something has broken in apt
[01:14] <somedude_> oh
[01:14] <somedude_> :(
[01:14] <LinuxJones> somedude_, your running the commands using sudo ?
[01:14] <somedude_> i did a server install?
[01:15] <somedude_> yeah
[01:15] <somedude_> im root!
[01:15] <penguin_roar> somedude_: try sudo apt-get check
[01:15] <ezsquirt> http://packages.debian.org i know that a similar page exists for ubuntu, but i can't remember url
[01:15] <somedude_> penguin_roar, it worked all "DONE"
[01:15] <crimsun> ezsquirt: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:15] <cafuego> titanium: By 'open' I'm implying you have a firewall.
[01:15] <somedude_> bender_, im in win with a sshd shell.. so that doesnt tell u anything!
[01:16] <titanium> cafuego: i dont
[01:16] <penguin_roar> somedude_: have you had apache2 installed previous?
[01:16] <somedude_> penguin_roar, no installed ubuntu a few hours ago
[01:16] <bender_> somedude_ i know. i just gota find another way to root then
[01:16] <bender_> lol kidding
[01:16] <somedude_> bender_, good luck!
[01:16] <ezsquirt> crimsun: how come its a dot com ? :) thx a bunch
[01:17] <bender_> nah i just started using this irc thing so im playing with commands
[01:17] <penguin_roar> bender_: you teaser
[01:17] <Arnia> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:17] <crimsun> ezsquirt: because it is.
[01:17] <penguin_roar> gawd i want the Futurama movie to be finished, right now!
[01:17] <b3nd3r> wai twait
[01:18] <b3nd3r> a MOVIE?!
[01:18] <b3nd3r> nooo dotn be lieing
[01:18] <aeruder> ahaha, the new glxgears doesn't have docs on ubuntu (at least not in the standard package, meybe there is a -doc package)
[01:18] <somedude_> have u givven up??? >;)
[01:18] <longfeather> IPSEC anyone?
[01:18] <penguin_roar> b3nd3r: yes, true
[01:18] <b3nd3r> omfg!!!
[01:18] <aeruder> so i did some grep with strings output on it because it no longer shows fps
[01:18] <b3nd3r> i just shit a brick
[01:18] <aeruder> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:18] <aeruder> that is how you get fps again, hahahaa
[01:19] <penguin_roar> somedude_: if you do tail -f /var/log/syslog do you see anything while you do apt-get install apache2 ?
[01:19] <pcharky> Any alsa die-hards in here?
[01:19] <penguin_roar> somedude_: tail lets you watch files as lines are added in real time
[01:19] <somedude_> yeah, ill check
[01:20] <penguin_roar> b3nd3r: please tape it?
[01:20] <somedude_> penguin_roar, nope.. still nothing!
[01:21] <black13> i use built a 2.6 kernel and the thing boots insanly fast how did i screw up in reverse?
[01:21] <somedude_> can i paste my apt sources list to u in priv??
[01:21] <penguin_roar> glxgears -print is nice also
[01:21] <penguin_roar> benchmark that printer!
[01:22] <nerp[away] > somedude_:  http://gawth.org/code/sources.list
[01:22] <cafuego> does glxgears have 'aa' output yet?
[01:22] <longfeather> can anyone help with ipsec?
[01:22] <penguin_roar> cafuego: hehe
[01:22] <zukalk> aru, have you tried that tutorial ?
[01:22] <pcharky> longfeather: I don't have a very lot of experience, but I'm willing to try :)
[01:22] <LinuxJones> longfeather, is there an ipsec channel on freenode ?
[01:22] <cafuego> penguin_roar: 'bb | lpr' would be the same ;-)
[01:22] <aru> zukalk: nope
[01:22] <penguin_roar> somedude_: try doing a google on the error message
[01:22] <somedude_> nerp[away] , its not even close to what i have in my sources list?
[01:23] <longfeather> pcharky: thanks!
[01:23] <nerp[away] > could be half the problem :P
[01:23] <somedude_> penguin_roar, ok.. thanks
[01:23] <pcharky> longfeather: so.. what's the problem?
[01:23] <corvus> i have a question
[01:23] <black13> LinuxJones hey i was able to build a working 2.6 kernel
[01:23] <longfeather> LinuxJones: haven't used IRC in years, is there?
[01:23] <LinuxJones> black13, that's a good thing to know
[01:23] <zukalk> aru, nerp gave a link. it looks good, but it's as if their apt repo is down. i can't download what it says to
[01:23] <LinuxJones> longfeather, let me check
[01:24] <nerp[away] > zukalk: use my sources
[01:24] <nerp[away] > zukalk: aru:  http://gawth.org/code/sources.list
[01:24] <nerp[away] > sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <nerp[away] > and replace with what I have in mine
[01:25] <zukalk> nerp[away] , i don't think it'll change anything. i added the nooms.de repo
[01:25] <zukalk> gonna try it anyway
[01:25] <somedude_> what is this: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 (2.6.10-34.4)???
[01:25] <nerp[away] > zukalk: k
[01:25] <longfeather> pcharky: My goal is to secure my network traffic over a wireless connection.  I want all traffic to be encrypted from my laptop to my hardwired linux box.  All traffic goes thru a wireless router
[01:25] <somedude_> if its not the kernel then what?
[01:25] <pcharky> LinuxJones: You're pretty familliar with this channel i believe, do you know of somebody who could help me with an alsa problem?
[01:25] <nerp[away] > zukalk: remove your sources, add mine
[01:25] <nerp[away] > then save
[01:26] <nerp[away] > and then do sudo apt-get update
[01:26] <LinuxJones> pcharky, I suck with alsa but what card do you have ?
[01:26] <pcharky> longfeather: How far along the process of implementing this are you?
[01:27] <pcharky> LinuxJones: SB Live Audigy2.. output works fine, but line-in, and aux inputs don't do anything at all (got 'em all unmuted in alsamixer)
[01:27] <somedude_> aaaaaargh
[01:27] <rickt> anybody know when the updates for libcairo2 are going to be put out?
[01:27] <owtput> is there a localepurge type app in gentoo?
[01:27] <desrt> rickt; before october
[01:27] <somedude_> penguin_roar, didnt find anyghing usefull - this meaning ive got a crap install??
[01:27] <owtput> ie, automagically removes unwanted locale-specific manpages/info etc
[01:28] <rickt> desrt, hehe. it'll be before then
[01:28] <cafuego> owtput: try asking on the right channel
[01:28] <desrt> rickt; that's what i said.  _before_ october.
[01:28] <zukalk> nerp[away] , seems to be working, thanks. it's downloading about 22MBs now
[01:28] <owtput> cafuego: sorry, this was the right channel.
[01:28] <LinuxJones> pcharky, that kind of stuff is beyond me :(
[01:28] <owtput> s/gentoo/ubuntu/
[01:28] <rickt> desrt, wow, you're like kreskin
[01:28] <cafuego> owtput: apt-get install localepurge, yes.
[01:28] <owtput> cafuego: i just saw gentoo mentioned on slashdot earlier
[01:28] <nerp[away] > zukalk: no prob
[01:29] <nerp[away] > I gotta go take a dump then get ready to go out
[01:29] <crazy2k> Hello. This is a rather stupid question but, my mom is using Ubuntu (she's far away from where I am now) and she's telling me she wants some tetris-like game. What instructions should I give her so she can get it? Using synaptic? Downloading and installing it in some other way?
[01:29] <nerp[away] > later y'all
[01:29] <zukalk> later
[01:29] <longfeather> pcharky: stuck on a lot of levels, have 2.6.8 kernal and want to use builtin ipsec, theory escapes me, I need to ask questions to understand how ipsec owrks
[01:29] <pcharky> LinuxJones: That's okay, thanks. Do you know anyone that does know about alsa stuff?
[01:29] <Ummmmm> anyone know of a good p2p app for linux?
[01:30] <seth_k> Azureus!
[01:30] <nerp[away] > Ummmmm: giFT, with apollon FE
[01:30] <rickt> crazy2k, this is linux. if it's not in the repo then she's shit out of luck.  better tell her to reinstall windows
[01:30] <Ummmmm> nerp: sweet, thanks
[01:30] <nerp[away] > and Ares, fasttrack, gnutella and OpenFT plugins
[01:30] <nerp[away] > Ummmmm: make sure you set up the plugins and compile properly tho
[01:30] <LinuxJones> pcharky, Seveas and Crimson are very good they are very helpfull too
[01:30] <somedude_> yeah yeah, time is running aaway.. night night.. ill be back tomorrow to bother you!!!  ;)))
[01:30] <LinuxJones> err Crimsun
[01:31] <somedude_> NITE NITE!!!!!!!!!
[01:31] <nerdy2> crazy2k, gnome-games has gnometris a tetris-like game
[01:31] <longfeather> pcharky: also want to set up using certs with both windows and linux clients connecting to a linux based box
[01:31] <pcharky> LinuxJones: Thanks, I'll ask him when he's back... he's probably in a bar right now having a good time.
[01:31] <LinuxJones> pcharky, I just drink @ home it's cheaper :)
[01:32] <ubuntu> 
[01:32] <ubuntu> ?
[01:32] <topyli> i'll drink to that
[01:32] <crazy2k> rickt: What? There are lots of tetris-like linux games out there.
[01:32] <crazy2k> nerdy2: She doesn't like that one.
[01:32] <crazy2k> nerdy2: Should I tell her to download one from the Internet?
[01:33] <LinuxJones> crazy2k, jsut get her to serach for tetris in synaptic then doubleclick the game package then hit the "apply" button.
[01:33] <pcharky> longfeather: Is there any specific reason why you want to use ipsec over other vpn software? If there isn't any, I would suggest you take a look at openvpn. I use it a lot and it's really great. ;)
[01:33] <topyli> crazy2k: show her ltris
[01:33] <pcharky> longfeather: has a windows client/server as well.
[01:34] <crazy2k> LinuxJones: But she has the standard repositories. I don't think she'll find any tetris game there.
[01:34] <longfeather> pcharky: I'll check that out right now
[01:34] <cafuego> !find tetris
[01:34] <pcharky> lonewolff: http://openvpn.sf.net
[01:34] <cafuego> crazy2k: One comes with gnome and one with kde, at a minimum, afaik
[01:34] <crazy2k> She doesn't like that one, cafuego.
[01:34] <desrt> openvpn is the freakin shitnit
[01:35] <desrt> it's also the shiznit
[01:35] <cafuego> crazy2k: gnome-tetris would be installed byd efault
[01:35] <cafuego> crazy2k: Why not?
[01:35] <crazy2k> cafuego: I have no idea.
[01:35] <pcharky> longfeather: It's very flexible, safe, and easy/fast to setup.
[01:36] <cafuego> "It's not identical to the one I like" is one you wan't win.
[01:36] <longfeather> pcharky: installing as we speak...'
[01:36] <crazy2k> topyli: Again, I'm not home. She has to install it by herself.
[01:36] <LinuxJones> crazy2k, I never got into the whole tetris thing I am a frozen-bubble kind of guy :)
[01:36] <topyli> crazy2k: hrm. she would have to enable universe probably and install
[01:37] <corvus> i installed fluxbox on my ubuntu system, and i cannot find the menu configuration file.  there is a file called "menu" in my .fluxbox directory, but it is empty. any ideas on where another file would be stored?
[01:37] <cafuego> Can't be harder than downloading an exe and installing that.
[01:38] <crazy2k> topyli: I remember I tried to find a tetris game in the standard repositories and didn't success.
[01:38] <topyli> !info ltris
[01:38] <ubotu> ltris: (very polished Tetris clone with CPU opponents), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 474 kB, Installed size: 1112 kB
[01:39] <topyli> crazy2k: in universe ^
[01:39] <pcharky> corvus: check the documentation section on www.fluxbox.org
[01:39] <corvus> pcharky: ok, thank you
[01:39] <dyce> can someone help me get my wlan ready?
[01:39] <Ummmmm> Here's a n00blet question: why is gcc not in my path and how do I go about fixing that?
[01:39] <cafuego> ssh to home and install it for her
[01:39] <cafuego> Ummmmm: it's not installed. Install it.
[01:40] <crimsun> build-essential
[01:40] <crazy2k> topyli: I don't know what that is. I enabled all the respositories that came with my installation.
[01:40] <cafuego> Ummmmm: Note that perhaps compiling stuff isn't a good idea, if you didn;'t know that answer.
[01:40] <Ummmmm> what for real?! wow I thought it would have been installed by default
[01:40] <Ummmmm> don't worry, I'm a programmer, just a n00blet at *nix
[01:40] <dyce> i got the zd1201 firmware files, now what?
[01:40] <cafuego> Ummmmm: Yes, my point exactly.
[01:40] <Ummmmm> everyone's gotta start somewhere :)
[01:40] <aeruder> Ummmmm: ubuntu is a desktop install, most people don't need nor want compilers ;)
[01:41] <Ummmmm> point taken. About time I got gcc installed then
[01:41] <topyli> crazy2k: you just didn't look hard enough to find ltris :)
[01:41] <cafuego> Ummmmm: A few simple rules: 1) Never compile what is packaged. 2) Source packages can be modified 3) /usr/local
[01:42] <cafuego> 0) Don't fix it if it ain't broken
[01:42] <dyce> anyoi need help with my wifi
[01:42] <dyce> i need*
[01:42] <Ummmmm> thanks cafuego. What did you mean by (3) /usr/local?
[01:43] <cafuego> Ummmmm: It might sound condescending, but we DO get people here with an apache source install, who claim they needed to compile it for php support.
[01:43] <Ummmmm> lol
[01:43] <cafuego> Ummmmm: if you install unpackaged files, install them to /usr/local, that way they won't interfere with files from packages.
[01:44] <jorgp> what do I need to do to install a printer in cups, what login/passwd do I use?
[01:44] <Ummmmm> ok is it a really bad idea to install to e.g. ~/software/somepackage?
[01:44] <topyli> Ummmmm: that's where you put stuff you compiled yourself. although i tend to make debian packages out of them and install in /usr :)
[01:44] <cafuego> Ummmmm: No, under $HOME is fine too. Just not to / or /usr basically.
[01:44] <pcharky> jorgp: use System->Administration->Printin
[01:44] <nox_ghost> where can i get the "backports" mirror? "planetmirror" is no longer working =\
[01:44] <Ummmmm> righty-oh, /usr/local/somepackage it is :) thanks
[01:44] <cafuego> !backports
[01:44] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[01:45] <nox_ghost> hmm, what do you mean by "hoary-backports section" ?
[01:45] <nox_ghost> oh, its that bot =\
[01:46] <cafuego> nox_ghost: basically, pick any other mirror.
[01:46] <crispynix-v6> ugh, kaffeine is still crashing on exit with latest breezy. wtf? :-/
[01:46] <nox_ghost> cafuego, yeah but i how do find a mirror to add?!
[01:46] <cafuego> nox_ghost: apt-setup
[01:46] <crazy2k> topyli: Would it be right if I told her to get the source or something? Hell, I wish installing applications wasn't this hard for a newbie.
[01:46] <nox_ghost> cafuego, thanx!!! i thought it works only in debian!
[01:46] <cafuego> nox_ghost: and archive.XX.ubuntu.com (where XX is a country code)
[01:46] <StickUpKid> hello, anyone knows what's the name of a column in the left right that told you the space in disk, your mail, your connections... (sorry my poor english)
[01:46] <jorgp> pcharky: doing it from commandline w/ lynx localhost:631
[01:47] <Edddie> Can someone help me mount some devices or just help me with fstab?
[01:47] <topyli> crazy2k: no, just apt-get install ltris, since you've enabled all the repositories
[01:47] <StickUpKid> hello, anyone knows what's the name of a column in the left right that told you the space in disk, your mail, your connections... (sorry my poor english)
[01:47] <Ummmmm> hmm su ain't working. Methinks it's becuase ubuntu disables root account. Me also thinks there's a way to accomplish same end using sudo, but me has forgotten what the command is...
[01:48] <topyli> StickUpKid: perhaps gkrellm
[01:48] <pcharky> jorgp: The webinterface is somewhat broken but if you have your root-account enabed (which is against ubuntu policy) you could try logging in with the root account credentials.
[01:48] <StickUpKid> yep that it is, thanks you very much indeed topyli
[01:49] <topyli> Ummmmm: "sudo command". or "sudo sh" for a login shell
[01:49] <dyce> hey guys i need help
[01:49] <flugh> i'm lazy and use 'sudo -s'
[01:49] <Ummmmm> or I could just click the new root shell icon :)
[01:49] <topyli> yeah :)
[01:49] <jorgp> pcharky: nm, I figured it out
[01:49] <pcharky> jorgp: alternatively you could add it with lpadmin.
[01:49] <flugh> no clicking when referring to shells ;)
[01:50] <Ummmmm> roflmao
[01:50] <nox_ghost> cafuego, well, i think thats not my problem
[01:50] <dyce> i need help with this tutorial
[01:50] <dyce> http://www.ubermeister.net/~reid/projects/zd1201/
[01:50] <flugh> "i clicked on the $, but my msn still won't work!! wtf?#!?
[01:50] <Flying-Penguin> how does vmware work on ubuntu?
[01:50] <topyli> heh
[01:50] <pcharky> Flying-Penguin: yes.
[01:51] <Flying-Penguin> pcharky: do you use it or know abought it?
[01:51] <pcharky> Flying-Penguin: I used it.. my trial expired :(
[01:52] <Flying-Penguin> pcharky: can I pm you something?
[01:52] <pcharky> Flying-Penguin: sure
[01:52] <dyce> can someone plz help me???
[01:52] <Ummmmm> I think I just did something silly. sudo -s, then in ~/software/gift_0.11.8.1.tar.gz_FILES did mv gift-0.11.8.1/ /usr/local ... now I can't find the directory I was trying to move!
[01:52] <Edddie> Can someone help me mount some devices or just help me with fstab?
[01:53] <pcharky> Edddie: Sure
[01:53] <cafuego> !info gift
[01:53] <ubotu> gift: (metapackage for the giFT filesharing system), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.11.8.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 0 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
[01:53] <dyce> can someone tell me where i can get support with ubuntu?
[01:53] <dyce> im guessing this isnt the place, ince no one replies :/
[01:53] <cafuego> Ummmmm: sudo apt-get install gift
[01:53] <Ummmmm> ah. coulda saved myself some hassle.
[01:54] <Ummmmm> thanks. Now where do I find that mislaid directory?!
[01:54] <cafuego> Ummmmm: Just enable the 'universe' and 'metaverse' repositories.
[01:54] <dabar> one sec, dyce.
[01:54] <Ummmmm> yes, have done -- just didn't realise it was available through apt-get
[01:54] <cafuego> Ummmmm: 'apt-cache search <string>'
[01:54] <cafuego> Ummmmm: ... or synaptic is handy for searching, too.
[01:55] <cafuego> Ummmmm: The dir is probably in /usr/local now.
[01:55] <Ummmmm> yeah yeah but I was trying to install it manually (in my ignorance) ... and it is not in /usr/local, I don't know where it went!
[01:55] <dabar> dyce: did you say please?
[01:55] <Ummmmm> ls
[01:55] <dyce> i said, "plz" if that counts
[01:56] <Ummmmm> err wrong window :) sorry
[01:56] <cafuego> Ummmmm: Did you run 'configure' ?
[01:56] <dabar> sure...
[01:56] <cafuego> Ummmmm: You can always run 'find / -name "*substring*"
[01:56] <dabar> lets see this tutorial, give me a asecond.
[01:56] <Ummmmm> I did (when I discovered I didn't have gcc) but then after installing gcc I wanted to move it to the right place before running ./configure again ... now I've lost it :(
[01:56] <dabar> No, I dont know anything about setting that up.
[01:56] <cafuego> dyce: You can get support here (free) or from Canonical (paid)
[01:57] <jorgp> what repos should I use to get transcode for breezy?
[01:57] <cafuego> Ummmmm: Hit arrow-up until the exact command is on the screen, then paste that command here.
[01:57] <cafuego> jorgp: hoary-extras afaik
[01:58] <jorgp> cafuego: that will work ok with breezy?
[01:58] <cafuego> jorgp: No idea.
[01:58] <Ummmmm> cafuego: thanks, I'm such a fscking idiot, moved it to /usr/lcal not /usr/local
[01:58] <dgibb> hi guys. when I run totem, and try to get it to play a dvd, I get the error: don't know how to handle audio/x-ac3
[01:58] <cafuego> jorgp: breezy is broken anyway.
[01:58] <cafuego> Ummmmm: <heh>
[01:58] <jorgp> cafuego: yeah some things are
[01:59] <longfeather> pcharky: re: openvpn, what do u recommend: routing or bridge ?
[01:59] <dgibb> any thoughts?
[01:59] <dbernar1> dgibb: installed dvd support? I think wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats will tell you how to do that.
[01:59] <pcharky> longfeather: I find routing easyest :)
[01:59] <Ummmmm> what's the *nix equivalent of the old-skool dos command deltree ?
[01:59] <dalamar> rmdir
[02:00] <dbernar1> Ummmmm: rm -r too, man rm.
[02:00] <dgibb> dbernar1: thanks, I'll look that up
[02:00] <dbernar1> sure you will,..sure you will...:)
[02:01] <crazy2k> Uhm. I tried to apt-get ltris but it's not in the repositories apparently. What should I do?
[02:01] <tiglionabbit> I just moved some directories from windows, and there's a lot of Thumbs.db and PREVIEW.PIX files in it.  What's a good way of getting rid of all of them?
[02:01] <dbernar1> !info ltris
[02:01] <ubotu> ltris: (very polished Tetris clone with CPU opponents), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 474 kB, Installed size: 1112 kB
[02:02] <longfeather> pcharky: what benefits does bridging have over routing (if any)?
[02:02] <dbernar1> crazy2k: enable universe.
[02:02] <dbernar1> !repos
[02:02] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:02] <Ummmmm> cafuego: thanks for all the help :)
[02:02] <aeruder> tiglionabbit: find . -type f -name "Thumbs.db" | while read line ; do echo rm -f "$line" ; done
[02:02] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[02:02] <aeruder> tiglionabbit: and remove the echo when you actually want to do it ;)
[02:02] <crazy2k> dbernar1: How?
[02:02] <crimsun> tiglionabbit: for i in Thumbs.db PREVIEW.PIX; do find . -name "$i"|xargs rm -f; done
[02:02] <aeruder> Ice9: did you log that user out and back in?
[02:02] <dbernar1> crazy2k: check out what ~ubotu, the bot told me when I said !repos
[02:03] <Ice9> yea
[02:03] <aeruder> crimsun: windows directories tend to have spaces in them
[02:03] <aeruder> crimsun: which can go terribly terribly wrong with yours ;)
[02:03] <knowledge> how do I use an install.sh file?
[02:03] <aeruder> sh install.sh'
[02:03] <aeruder> without the ' ;)
[02:03] <crimsun> aeruder: shouldn't be a problem since it's quoted.
[02:03] <pcharky> longfeather: with bridging the connected (single) computer acts as a member of the server's network, obtaining an ip address in the same subnet of the server's range. With routing, the client has to be in a different subnet than the server.
[02:03] <knowledge> aeruder: thank you kingly
[02:03] <knowledge> kindly*
[02:04] <aeruder> crimsun: no, it won't work, because xargs does not do line separated, it does space separated
[02:04] <aeruder> crimsun: so if you had a file called ./usr bin/Thumbs.db
[02:04] <aeruder> it would remove ./usr and bin/Thumbs.db
[02:04] <StickUpKid> i have just installed gkrellm by synaptic, but i can't find him in applications...how can i find him ?
[02:04] <marioch> Hello, I have a question about netapplet, how can I setup netapplet to request a new IP from dhcp server when I activate a wireless connection?
[02:04] <aeruder> you could probably imagine some ways that things could go terribly wrong
[02:04] <aeruder> perhaps
[02:04] <crimsun> aeruder: sure
[02:04] <aeruder> (although unlikely)
[02:05] <aeruder> crimsun: however, you can use -print0 on find
[02:05] <longfeather> pcharky: hmmm.... I think bridging is the way I need to go - I'll check that out further
[02:05] <aeruder> which makes it do NUL instead of line breaks
[02:05] <aeruder> and on xargs use the...
[02:05] <aeruder> -0 option
[02:05] <crimsun> or we could just use -exec ... '{}'
[02:05] <vader1102> anyone familiar with sound? I need to get my sound working in a game and also it mutes itself automagically upon reboot
[02:05] <jorgp> cafuego: what are you finding broken in breezy?
[02:05] <aeruder> true
[02:06] <tiglionabbit> crimsun: that's beautiful!  Thank you
[02:06] <aeruder> crimsun: i generally prefer teh while read line ; approach for whatever reason
[02:06] <aeruder> jorgp: lots of stuff depends on libcairo1 instead of libcairo2
[02:06] <aeruder> :)
[02:06] <crimsun> aeruder: sure, six of a kind or half a dozen
[02:07] <pcharky> longfeather: I don't use bridging so i'm not sure if i can be of much assisting in you case. However don't hesitate to ask, you're welcome to pm if you like.
[02:07] <jorgp> aeruder: yeah, dont use gnome, so that does not bother me
[02:07] <aeruder> crimsun: the while read line approach is handy if you need to do several manipulations to each file
[02:07] <aeruder> crimsun: there's always about a billion ways to strings these things together :)
[02:09] <Ummmmm> hmm
[02:10] <aeruder> vader1102: any errors on the game?
[02:10] <vader1102> nope
[02:10] <Ummmmm> Right I've finally installed giFT (using the n00blet method, synaptic) ... but the process doesn't seem to be running. Where is it installed? Where do I find docs? How do I start the giFT daemon? What is the meaning of life?
[02:11] <StickUpKid> i have just installed gkrellm by synaptic, but i can't find him in applications...how can i find him ?
[02:12] <jack|ass> so is Breezy broken?
[02:12] <StickUpKid> oh i forgot, i'm noob
[02:13] <Concord_Dawn> !jailer
[02:13] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Concord_Dawn
[02:13] <jack|ass> aeruder: ah, i was having the same problem.  at least i'm not the only one. :)
[02:13] <iratsu> is tehre a simple way to upgrade a debian system to ubuntu?
[02:14] <crimsun> iratsu: sure, change the sources.list, update && dist-upgrade. Keep in mind this method is unsupported and will lead to problems.
[02:14] <iratsu> what kind of problems?
[02:15] <crimsun> iratsu: depends on the origin debian flavour.
[02:15] <iratsu> sid
[02:15] <crimsun> Sid? In that case, you'll be downgrading/crossgrading some packages.
[02:16] <crimsun> (That's asking for trouble.)
[02:16] <iratsu> ouch =\
[02:16] <jack|ass> upgrading to breezy is trouble-filled too at the moment. :(
[02:17] <crimsun> well, at least the Xorg modular transition is mostly complete
[02:17] <Concord_Dawn> anyone here use jailer?
[02:17] <crimsun> right now it's the Cairo one that's causing issues
[02:17] <Concord_Dawn> unreal_, you having a problem with UnrealIRCd, or is that just your pseudonym?
[02:18] <iratsu> i've been wanting to switch to ubuntu for a while and i thought now would be a good time since I just dist-upgrade'd and now X doesn't work anymore
[02:18] <trooper_> lol
[02:18] <jorgp> I upgraded to breezy no problems
[02:18] <unreal> Concord_Dawn: hmm?
[02:19] <Concord_Dawn> read what I said ;)
[02:19] <hardw1re> hmmm, anyone know how to install UT on on the x86_64 system? i have the ut-install-436-GOTY.run but i get this error:
[02:19] <hardw1re> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / x86_64
[02:20] <flugh> doesn't leave much to the imagination
[02:21] <hardw1re> ah
[02:21] <flugh> it wasn't compiled against glibc-2.0 on the x86_64 platform. compile from source, or find appropriate binary. i gotta think there's some compatibility 'mode' in the kernel somwhere
[02:21] <hardw1re> i think i just found a forum post about it on msn
[02:21] <vladuz976> is there a good software for designing webpages in linux?
[02:21] <hardw1re> *ubuntu forums
[02:22] <DanusMcAnus> hardw1re: screem
[02:23] <flugh> hardw1re, vim
[02:23] <DanusMcAnus> lol
[02:23] <hardw1re> O_o
[02:23] <DanusMcAnus> hardw1re: flugh's right though... :(
[02:24] <hardw1re> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7616.html <---- i think i shall try this 1st :P
[02:25] <Atri> hello, does someone have a minutes to help with a problem
[02:25] <Atri> /
[02:26] <DanusMcAnus> sorry, that comment was meant for vladuz976
[02:26] <DanusMcAnus> and he just left
[02:26] <DanusMcAnus> lol
[02:26] <DanusMcAnus> damn!
[02:26] <D1> nvu for webpages
[02:27] <Atri> i cant get gnutella loaded here any idea what may be the problem?
[02:27] <crimsun> Atri: gtk-gnutella?
[02:27] <Atri> yeah
[02:27] <mhz> hey
[02:27] <crimsun> Atri: what's(re) the error(s)?
[02:28] <DanusMcAnus> D1: nice :)
[02:28] <Atri> im new to ubuntu ,linux in general,just installed about an hour ago
[02:28] <D1> you guys think breezy is ready for installing?
[02:28] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[02:28] <D1> I wanna try all these goodies on my laptop.
[02:28] <crimsun> D1: not currently.
[02:28] <D1> well
[02:28] <Atri> errors? i wouldnt even know where to look for errors
[02:28] <D1> I mean the X issues and all.
[02:28] <mhz> Has any one successfully add a pairing key for BlueTooth (T637)
[02:28] <mhz> ??
[02:28] <D1> perhaps installing from colony 3
[02:28] <crimsun> D1: Xorg modularisation for Breezy is fine. Cairo transition is on-going and will cause issues.
[02:29] <D1> what exactly is affected?
[02:29] <crimsun> D1: any package that depends on gtk & cairo
[02:29] <Concord_Dawn> Has anyone here used the jailer package?
[02:30] <hardw1re> D1: i upgraded to breezy this afternoon
[02:30] <D1> how'd it go?
[02:30] <hardw1re> upgrade went fine
[02:30] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.12-7-amd64-generic x86_64] 
[02:30] <hardw1re> (CPU): AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+: (Frequency): 1040.106MHz: (Cache): 512 KB: (Bogomips): 2061.65
[02:31] <crimsun> hardw1re: hope you have fun with the cairo transition =)
[02:31] <chris> Could anyone help me get Cadega, I just read a blog that said it would allow me to run games meant to only run in windows?
[02:31] <chris> I couldn't find it in the package manager though
[02:31] <hardw1re> crimsun: i'll come to that when i know what cairo is for :P lol
[02:31] <crimsun> chris: you have to pay for it. http://www.cedega.com
[02:31] <b3nd3r> so ya i cant hardly see now
[02:31] <hardw1re> anyone know how to disable the popup messages on koptite?
[02:32] <b3nd3r> ya i dont
[02:34] <chris> Crimsun: Shazbot....I'll just boot to windows for games then >_<;
[02:34] <Mobius> hi everyone =)
[02:34] <Ice9> You are running in 32 bpp, but ZSNES is forcing 16 bpp. You may experience poor performance and/or crashing. Whats the deal with that?
[02:34] <hardw1re> oh btw, i found a load of webcam packages and stuff in the breezy repository that i've installed. but i dont know how to get them to work with my usb webcam
[02:34] <Mobius> is there any way to scroll up in tty1 for boot messages?
[02:35] <rmflagg> Can someone help me with a GDM problem?
[02:35] <dalamar> just do dmesg | more
[02:35] <Mobius> whats up rmflagg?
[02:35] <b3nd3r> rmflagg still!?
[02:35] <crimsun> Mobius: /var/log/dmesg
[02:35] <Mobius> thanks
[02:35] <rmflagg> Yep...I never got an answer!
[02:35] <b3nd3r> hmm
[02:35] <b3nd3r> im busy "hacking" soooooo
[02:35] <Mobius> crimsun, reason I ask is because alsa seems to be having trouble with my soundcard all of the sudden =/
[02:36] <dbernar1> !ask
[02:36] <rmflagg> Last week, GDM(under Hoary) no longer remembers the "Last" setting or the "Default" setting.
[02:36] <crimsun> Mobius: cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:36] <Concord_Dawn> Has anyone here ever used the Jailer package? I need some help with it.
[02:36] <crimsun> Concord_Dawn: if no one here responds, ask on ubuntu-users
[02:36] <Concord_Dawn> erm.
[02:37] <Concord_Dawn> empty channel?
[02:37] <dbernar1> mailing list
[02:37] <rmflagg> ...and when I change the Session type, it not longer asks if I want to make it the default.
[02:37] <Concord_Dawn> ohes.
[02:37] <Concord_Dawn> well
[02:37] <Concord_Dawn> considering as Ubuntu is debian based.
[02:37] <iratsu> does anyone know what I should do if I can't get X started and don't get any error in my log file?
[02:37] <crimsun> Concord_Dawn: that would be a very bad idea.
[02:37] <SoulBlink> anybody know how to show which version on ndiswrapper you are currently running?
[02:38] <Mobius> crimsun, my card doesnt seem to show up anymore! =(
[02:38] <crimsun> Concord_Dawn: you may find yourself ejected, flamed, etc.
[02:38] <Concord_Dawn> tbh
[02:38] <Concord_Dawn> I care not.
[02:38] <b3nd3r> any one know any wifi router hacks?
[02:38] <dbernar1> Concord_Dawn: just dont fly in there stupid
[02:38] <b3nd3r> kidding
[02:39] <rmflagg> Mobius...do you have any idea?
[02:39] <dbernar1> Concord_Dawn: compose your question, dont be like, has anyone ever
[02:39] <dbernar1> ask exactly what you need to know,
[02:39] <hardw1re> yes i found an installer for UT GOTYE that runs on x86_64 :D
[02:39] <Concord_Dawn> How it works? :-P
[02:39] <dbernar1> and dont mention ubuntu right away, they are a little jellaous too,.
[02:39] <Mobius> rmflagg, what other DEs do you have?
[02:39] <dbernar1> Concord_Dawn: you want to know how a package works?
[02:39] <Concord_Dawn> no
[02:39] <cafuego> dbernar1: They just don't suffer fools well. neither should #ubuntu.
[02:40] <Concord_Dawn> I want to know what particular things do on that package.
[02:40] <dbernar1> cafuego: there is a dose of jellaousy I find, among some.
[02:40] <dbernar1> Concord_Dawn: rtfm...that is teh answer you will get there.
[02:40] <cafuego> Concord_Dawn: That's what documentation tends to be for.
[02:40] <rmflagg> There is Gnome and Fluxbox and Ratpoison and XFCE...all installed for months before this problem.
[02:40] <dbernar1> and rightly so, have you read ny manual so far?
[02:40] <Concord_Dawn> cafuego, documentation is very vague, and translated from another language. It's not very good.
[02:40] <dbernar1> any
[02:40] <crimsun> Mobius: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[02:41] <dbernar1> Concord_Dawn: read it again.
[02:41] <dbernar1> or, whate3ver, good luck.
[02:41] <Concord_Dawn> heh.
[02:41] <Concord_Dawn> tbh.
[02:41] <cafuego> dbernar1: Not really, people there just get shitty (rightly so) when people on another distro start asking for help. After saying "We don't know, we use something else" 10,000 times you'd get irritated as well.
[02:41] <Ice9> You are running in 32 bpp, but ZSNES is forcing 16 bpp. You may experience poor performance and/or crashing. Whats the deal with that?
[02:42] <Concord_Dawn> or
[02:42] <cafuego> Ice9: run in 16bpp when playing with zsnes
[02:42] <Grat> ellow
[02:42] <Ice9> cafuego how do I do that?
[02:42] <Grat> Concord_Dawn: why is that?
[02:42] <dbernar1> cafuego: well, I am not in the mood for a conversation on that, and I understand what you mean.
[02:42] <Atri> crimsun,  i dont seem to have the gtk-gnutella package
[02:42] <Concord_Dawn> bpp? bogomips per parsecond?
[02:42] <cafuego> bits per pixel
[02:42] <Concord_Dawn> Grat, dunno, for fun I guess.
[02:42] <umboto> hey im trying to install muine and i hit the fourms and found a thread about installing it, but i had to add some repos to my apt list, those repos are down, and i looked further into the thread, and their was an updated repo, but it is also 404
[02:42] <dmouritsendk> can anybody tell me which font package i need to install to get mathml support in firefox?
[02:42] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: I reinstalled.  Sound is working pretty good with the SB Live! 5.1.  The SB Live 7.1 24-bit is junk IMO.
[02:42] <Mobius> crimsun, it lists it
[02:43] <jbull> umboto:  installing the latest muine in hoary?
[02:43] <dbernar1> umboto: what repos, tho, dont you think that is relevant tio your question?
[02:43] <umboto> yes
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> say, is there a way to glob a directory in a smart way, so it lists numbered files like 1.gif 2.gif 3.gif instead of 1.gif 10.gif 11.gif etc 2.gif 20.gif ?
[02:43] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, great, too bad you had those problems :(
[02:43] <crimsun> Atri: did you enable the universe repository?
[02:43] <umboto> yes jbull
[02:43] <Atri> ummm
[02:43] <Atri> crimsun,  how do you do that?
[02:43] <Concord_Dawn> erm
[02:43] <Concord_Dawn> !universe\
[02:43] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: No idea
[02:43] <crimsun> !addingrepositories
[02:43] <ubotu> crimsun: What?
[02:43] <umboto> dbernar1,  these deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs/ ./
[02:43] <Concord_Dawn> !universe
[02:43] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[02:43] <Concord_Dawn> oh
[02:43] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Yeah it sucked.  There is perhaps a slight delay in the sound played though.  Like if a warning Window pops up in KDE.
[02:44] <Concord_Dawn> !tell Atri about repositories
[02:44] <Ice9> how do I get zsnes to run in 16 bbps?
[02:44] <jbull> umboto:  have you tried backports?
[02:44] <umboto> yes
[02:44] <rmflagg> I am trying to find out if there are settings in gdm.conf that handle these setting.
[02:44] <mstlyevil> Does anybody know why Realplayer will not start after installing? The system monitor said it installed just fine and I am at a loss.
[02:44] <Atri> thats a cool bot
[02:44] <Atri> lol
[02:44] <Concord_Dawn> indeed.
[02:44] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, run gstreamer properties and see if your using alsa for output sink
[02:44] <Concord_Dawn> !learn
[02:44] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I give up, what is it?
[02:44] <Concord_Dawn> !learn cool thingies.
[02:44] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: Are you on ritalin?
[02:44] <Concord_Dawn> probably.
[02:44] <iamsobored05> hi
[02:45] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Is that available in Kubuntu?  How do I get to it?
[02:45] <umboto> i already edited my source list, by adding the backports and uncommenting some of the others
[02:45] <iamsobored05> i need help with my wifi adaptor
[02:45] <iamsobored05> dwl-g650
[02:45] <NatureTruth> hi
[02:45] <Concord_Dawn> !tell iamsobored05 about ndiswrapper
[02:45] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, ohh your running kde
[02:45] <BTJustice> iamsobored05: Is it found automatically a ath0?
[02:45] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Yup.
[02:46] <Mobius> crimsun, it shows my audio controller.. and it was working just a few days ago =/
[02:46] <saitek> lcl
[02:46] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, poke around I'm sure you can find a config tool to use alsa or better yet ask in #kubuntu
[02:46] <NatureTruth> i have just successfully compiled kernel 2.6.12 in hoary.  Everything seems to be working well except that my fat volume is not mounted.  It worked before.  And my ntfs volume is mounted.  It's just the fat volume that doesn't get mounted.  And when I try to manually mount it, i get mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /mnt/archive busy.  Help anyone please
[02:47] <BTJustice> I can go to terminal and enter alsamixer though and it works.
[02:47] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, perfect
[02:47] <MrPockets> say my core CPU temp goes up a good 14 degrees when Ubuntu runs the screen saver...
[02:47] <Davus> NatureTruth, did you compile with FAT support and whatnot?
[02:47] <McGoo> can u guys help me out?
[02:47] <MrPockets> do the screen savers take alot to process?
[02:47] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, I wonder whawt's up with that latency tho ?
[02:47] <crimsun> Mobius: it would help if you actually told me what it said.
[02:47] <jbull> McGoo:  with what?
[02:47] <Mobius> ok crimsun, one second
[02:48] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Not sure.  There are a lot more sliders with the 5.1 as opposed to the 7.1, lol.
[02:48] <McGoo> when i install ubuntu i get as far as installing the grub loader then it says there has been a fatal error. i read on forum that its a problem with disks but could it be something else?
[02:48] <dmouritsendk> can anybody tell me what font packages i need to make firefox render mathml?
[02:49] <chris> Does anyone know how to get the scroll wheel on a logitech m369? (standard 2 button mouse with scroll wheel)
[02:49] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, heh
[02:49] <NatureTruth> Davus:  yes, I did...is whatnot a filesystem?
[02:49] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: Yeah?
[02:49] <Davus> Nope. :)
[02:49] <Mobius> crimsun, 0000:00:1b.0 0302: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[02:49] <crimsun> Mobius: lsmod
[02:49] <crimsun> err
[02:49] <crimsun> Mobius: lsmod|grep ^snd_azx
[02:50] <Wanderer> Would Anyone care to tell me how I can change my screen resolution, please?
[02:50] <Mobius> crimsun, doesn't return anything
[02:50] <Davus> Wanderer, it's in the System -> Preferences menu
[02:51] <dbernar1> !fixres
[02:51] <ubotu> methinks fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:51] <LinuxJones> Wanderer, system >> Preferences >> Screen Resolution
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> in some cases you may need to edit the X config file manually. I had to for my widescreen laptop
[02:51] <crimsun> Mobius: and what does this do? sudo modprobe snd_azx
[02:51] <Wanderer> It doesn't have any resolutions other than the default one. Same for the refresh rate.
[02:51] <Mobius> FATAL:MOdule snd_azx not found. FATAL: Error running install command for snd_azx
[02:51] <Davus> Ah, manual edit time then.
[02:51] <dbernar1> Wanderer: then do the fuixres.
[02:52] <crimsun> Mobius: cat /proc/asound/version
[02:52] <iratsu> What should I do if I get the following error in my command line when i run startx: XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.?
[02:52] <LinuxJones> Wanderer, follow the ubotu link ^^
[02:52] <Wanderer> Huh?
[02:52] <Mobius> crimsun, I had to install a realtek driver in order to get the sound to work last month
[02:52] <Ride> Hey everyone... quick question... I reinstalled WinXP on my dual boot. Then reinstalled grub. Now I am back in Ubuntu, but my sound doesn't work. Anyone have any pointers?
[02:53] <Atri> crimsun,  i added the universe repositroy and updated and still no gtk-gnutella
[02:53] <Atri> crimsun,  any other ideas?
[02:53] <michael> hello
[02:53] <crimsun> Atri: /join #flood and paste the output from apt-cache policy gtk-gnutella
[02:53] <dbernar1> Atri: you did not do it properly
[02:53] <Mobius> crimsun, Advanced Linux Architecture Driver version 1.0.9rc4a and then the compile date
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..  that souldent of affected sound Ride - however i DID have an  odd system ages ago. that IF i 'rebooted' from windows to linux. the sound card would not get configured right.. but if i powered down and booted straight to linux it would work.
[02:54] <michael> any one a girl out there
[02:54] <crimsun> Mobius: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[02:54] <flugh> Atri, bugger, i use limewire (only for non-copyright stuff mind you) following ubuntuguide.org (which is evil mind you)
[02:54] <hardw1re> \o/
[02:54] <pcharky> can anybody help me with a dire alsa problem?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> michael,  roughly 50% of the Population are of the Girl species.
[02:54] <hardw1re> ok got UnrealTournament installed and running fine :D
[02:54] <crimsun> pcharky: dire? ask.
[02:54] <hardw1re> (CPU): AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+: (Frequency): 1872.191MHz: (Cache): 512 KB: (Bogomips): 3710.97
[02:54] <umboto> has anyone here sucessfully install muine?
[02:54] <cafuego> hardw1re: Can you switch that script off?
[02:54] <azriel0184> is there a way to get gksuexec to use gksudo not gksu? because its a usefull appllication, but to use it to execute root applications i need to activate the root account
[02:54] <Ride> Dr_Willis: hmm.. interesting. I thought it was odd my sound stopped working as well. I did a straight boot to linux though
[02:54] <dbernar1> Dr_Willis: you actually answered that guy?
[02:55] <McGoo> anyone ever have grub problems?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> dbernar1,  in as general and vague, yet accurate as i could. :P
[02:55] <crimsun> it's ok, 'michael' left.
[02:55] <pcharky> crimsun: I need to get my line-in to work, somehow it doesn't. I unmuted the card for playback, recording, playback+recording
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> dbernar1,  every one knows girls dont use computers. :P
[02:55] <flugh> hardwire: so there's some compatibility thing you can do?
[02:55] <crimsun> pcharky: cat /proc/asound/cards
[02:55] <Cletus> not usually McGoo, what kind of problems are you having?
[02:56] <Mobius> brb, im going to switch the other computer so that I can copy and paste crimsun
[02:56] <flugh> Dr_Willis, nah, i know a few girls who do. funny, they are all pretty large though
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> flugh,  Large Linux Chix?
[02:56] <McGoo> i get to install ubuntu as far as the point where it wants to install the grub, then when i try to it fails with a "fatal error"
[02:56] <Cletus> lol, how large?
[02:56] <flugh> Dr_Willis, i mean, you gotta enable REAL_LARGE_OBJECTS when configuring your kernel
[02:57] <Cletus> can you provide the error text mcgoo?
[02:57] <ofer0> ok guys, my "ubuntu installation guide" is finished
[02:57] <Cletus> flugh: that large, eh?
[02:57] <ofer0> you can see it @ www.imc-il.com/david/Project
[02:57] <flugh> kernel_panic: call to 0x40057603:GetOffMeICantBreathe()
[02:57] <Cletus> LOL
[02:58] <ofer0> the only language you will see is hebrew, so don`t try to read it. i will translate it soon
[02:58] <Burgundavia> ofer0, nice work. Unfortuantely, the installer might change radically for breezy
[02:58] <crimsun> ofer0: it's better to make a wiki page for yourself on ubuntu.com and link to it
[02:58] <crimsun> ofer0: that way we can centralize the documentation
[02:58] <ofer0> Burgundavia, so ill do it again :)
[02:58] <Mobius> crimsun, where should I paste the output for you
[02:59] <ofer0> crimsun, yeah, ill do it as soon as ill translate it to english
[02:59] <bz0b> anyone here use limewire?
[02:59] <crimsun> Mobius: paste.ubuntulinux.nl is fine
[02:59] <Burgundavia> ofer0, best to help the doc team with their work
[02:59] <cafuego> Burgundavia: If a gtk frontend will be added, can you add a 'gnocatan' module as well, so I can play whilst waiting? ;-)
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> bz0b,  ages ago. :P
[02:59] <flugh> bz0b, i do. dunno if it's topics are tolorated here though
[02:59] <Burgundavia> cafuego, don't ask me
[02:59] <bz0b> well 'cause i want to use it on ubuntu
[02:59] <bz0b> but i need to i think add a symlink
[03:00] <cafuego> Ok then, I'll TELL you ;-)
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> limewire has a script it isntalls that you run. I forget its name however. "runlime" or 'RunLime" or similer.
[03:00] <Mobius> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1457
[03:00] <Wanderer> How do I stop Ubuntu from requiring a password?
[03:01] <ofer0> Wanderer, ?!
[03:01] <crimsun> Mobius: dmesg
[03:01] <Wanderer> Yes?
[03:01] <crimsun> Mobius: err, dmesg|tail
[03:01] <pcharky> crimsun: sorry: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1458
[03:01] <ompaul> can I start firefox with two or three tabs open and pointing at my favorite sites?
[03:01] <cafuego> Wanderer: Explain your question.
[03:01] <Grat> Wanderer: what password?
[03:01] <flugh> Wanderer, this OS tends to protect you from such things
[03:01] <ofer0> Wanderer, yeah, be more specific
[03:01] <Mobius> how do I find out my kernel info crimsun?
[03:02] <hardw1re> ok.... ut is impossible...
[03:02] <hardw1re> it seems to run at 20000 miles per hour :|
[03:02] <crimsun> pcharky: please see alsa.opensrc.org, particularly the emu10k1 mixer pages
[03:02] <dbernar1> when you boot, you want to be logged in, for example. Wanderer .
[03:02] <ofer0> Mobius, kernel info? what do you mean ?
[03:02] <brk3> anyone here responsible for the hp laptop isos?
[03:02] <Mobius> kernel version
[03:02] <ofer0> Mobius, "uname -r"
[03:02] <Mobius> ty
[03:02] <dbernar1> Wanderer: or, when you open synaptic, and administrative applications, hyou dont want to be asked for password....
[03:02] <crimsun> Mobius: the error messages in dmesg|tail are most useful
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> brk3,  what hp laptop isos ?
[03:03] <brk3> Dr_Willis: the isos of ubuntu custumised for the hp nc laptops
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> brk3,  interesting - first id ever heard of them..  where ya find them at?
[03:04] <Wanderer> That is, how do I get it to stop this login/log off nonsense? I don't want it to do anything but load the desktop once I've selected what OS to use. I also want it to stop its' "administrative privilages" nonsense and just make the config changes I need without whining for a password.
[03:04] <Mobius> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1459
[03:04] <brk3> Dr_Willis: lol - hold on il find the url
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> brk3,  googline for them also. :P lol
[03:04] <BTJustice> Anyone know how to access the KDE Setup Wizard where you can pick if you want KDE to act like Windows or MAC OS X?  I am using Kubuntu.
[03:04] <brk3> Dr_Willis: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops/view?searchterm=laptop
[03:05] <Concord_Dawn> Wanderer, then login as root? ^_^
[03:05] <cafuego> BTJustice: Just edit the theme
[03:05] <crimsun> Mobius: erm, wow. What's the output from sudo depmod -ae ?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> I got a Compaq V2311  with a Turion Processor.. its not well liked by linux so far.
[03:05] <Wanderer> Huh? What is this "root" of which you speak?
[03:05] <LinuxJones> Wanderer, asking for a password is a good thing
[03:05] <cafuego> Wanderer: You want Lindows then, bot Ubuntu.
[03:05] <Mobius> crimsun, nothing
[03:05] <SimonVallore> Hello
[03:05] <BTJustice> cafuego: I could do that, but I want the Mac menu at the top and such.
[03:05] <crimsun> Mobius: nothing?
[03:05] <SimonVallore> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[03:05] <SimonVallore> History:
[03:05] <SimonVallore> Exiting due to error
[03:06] <Concord_Dawn> Wanderer, superuser. It can do anything and everything to the system.
[03:06] <SimonVallore> how do i fix that error
[03:06] <umboto> hey if im installing mono, where should it be installed at?
[03:06] <umboto> its askin
[03:06] <Mobius> crimsun, nada.. sudo depmod -ae is quiet =/
[03:06] <cafuego> Wanderer: Linux has different privileged levels for VERY good reasons.
[03:06] <crimsun> Mobius: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[03:06] <umboto> default it says $user/home/
[03:06] <cafuego> Wanderer: Windows viruses are one of those reasons.
[03:06] <Mobius> same error crimsun
[03:06] <LinuxJones> umboto, install the one in the ubuntu repositories
[03:06] <Wanderer> Oh. Ok.
[03:07] <brk3> anyway anyone know about these isos?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> Gnome/GDM does have an auto-login feature.. i think.. or is that KDM only?
[03:07] <paxmaster> hello there how could i control which dns server to allow in my /etc/resolv.conf
[03:07] <cafuego> BTJustice: See if you can install 'baghira'
[03:07] <cafuego> Dr_Willis: I'm sure gdm can do it too.
[03:07] <SimonVallore> Hello will one of you help me
[03:07] <umboto> LinuxJones, it wont let me
[03:07] <Wanderer> How do I set up a dail-up net connection?
[03:07] <SimonVallore> would i have better luck getting a donkey  to move than getiing help here
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> cafuego,  it proberly needs a manual edit of the config. :P  heh
[03:07] <umboto> LinuxJones, it tells me its uninstallable
[03:07] <LinuxJones> umboto, why not ?
[03:07] <brk3> SimonVallore: ask
[03:07] <LinuxJones> umboto, are you running breezy ?
[03:07] <SimonVallore> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[03:07] <SimonVallore> how do i fix that error
[03:08] <cafuego> Wanderer: If the system asks for a password before doing somehting potentially destructive, it in theory makes you THINK about what you're doing.
[03:08] <umboto> LinuxJones,  i have no idea
[03:08] <paxmaster> every time when i reboot or shutdown my /etc/resolv.conf change how could i prevent tat
[03:08] <umboto> LinuxJones, how i check to see if i am?
[03:08] <crimsun> Mobius: unload all ALSA modules
[03:08] <LinuxJones> umboto, cat /etc/issue
[03:08] <BTJustice> cafuego: kwin-baghira?  Yes.
[03:08] <gatogato> Hello
[03:08] <umboto> LinuxJones, Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[03:08] <cafuego> BTJustice: yeah, there's one or two control panls you need to then visit, to make KDE/kwin behave like a mac.
[03:08] <Mobius> not sure I know how crimsun
[03:08] <crimsun> Mobius: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload
[03:08] <Wanderer> Ok, caf., i got the point. I just thought it was thinking it was a multi-user computer.
[03:09] <cafuego> BTJustice: They might know which panels on #kubuntu.
[03:09] <cafuego> Wanderer: it is.
[03:09] <LinuxJones> umboto, have you ever upgraded your system ?
[03:09] <cafuego> Wanderer: Other users (system users) are running other stuff on your machine right now.
[03:09] <umboto> LinuxJones, yes
[03:09] <SimonVallore>  What the fuck is this channel for is it a pleace not to get help
[03:09] <LinuxJones> simonp, if you don't like it here leave
[03:09] <Grat> ah
[03:09] <Grat> :>
[03:10] <Wanderer> Huh? Explain, please!
[03:10] <Mobius> crimsun, I am trying to recompile that driver atm =/
[03:10] <paxmaster> hello there how could i control which dns server to allow in my /etc/resolv.conf
[03:10] <paxmaster> every time when i reboot or shutdown my /etc/resolv.conf change how could i prevent tat
[03:10] <BTJustice> cafuego: I tried #Kubuntu.  That channel is about worthless.
[03:10] <cafuego> LinuxJones: I paid $0 for my Ubuntu CDs and I *DEMAND* you help me NOW!!!!  </sarcasm>
[07:59] (dmccauley/#ubuntu) !windowsdrives
[07:59] (ubotu/#ubuntu) rumour has it, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[07:59] (bur[n] er/#ubuntu) Gatton: best bet is... install ubuntu from cd, then copy your /home over
[07:59] (Gatton/#ubuntu) bur[n] er, i was thinking of dd but wasn't sure if that would work. would it make the other drive bootable etc?
[07:59] (stizoner/#ubuntu) sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:59] (stizoner/#ubuntu) sudo: gedit: command not found
[07:59] (bur[n] er/#ubuntu) Gatton: u can run the livecd and just grub-install on it
[07:59] (Gatton/#ubuntu) bur[n] er, that's the way i was leaning as well. the lazy part of me hoped i could clone somehow ;)
[07:59] (bur[n] er/#ubuntu) Gatton: norton ghost ;)
[07:59] (stizoner/#ubuntu) what do i put instead of gedit? documentation keeps saying gedit for stuff
[07:59] <bur[n] er> totally not free, but it works wonders
[07:59] <bur[n] er> i just did a cp -a of my drive before
[07:59] <Wanderer> Does no one hold the solution to my techno maladies?
[07:59] <bur[n] er> not even a dd
[07:59] <Gatton> bur[n] er, have any idea if Norton Ghost would ... you read my mind! was gonna ask if it understands...hmmm Ubuntu is what? ext3?
[07:59] <bur[n] er> Wanderer: sorry
[08:00] <Madpilot> stizoner: are you on a command line only?
[08:00] <jabra> _frank: thanks
[08:00] <stizoner> yeah
[08:00] <bur[n] er> Gatton: it can be ext3
[08:00] <bur[n] er> mine is reiser
[08:00] <bur[n] er> reiser is faster ;)
[08:00] <Zen> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[08:00] <Wanderer> Meaning?
[08:00] <Zen> it says it can't find glib-config
[08:00] <Zen> any ideas?
[08:00] <Gatton> bur[n] er, i feel stupid that i can't remember heh
[08:00] <Madpilot> Wanderer: aside from the root thing, what else? (sorry if you've been saying, but I've been away from the computer...)
[08:00] <Zen> this is trying to install xmms :/
[08:00] <alexc> hey, im a windows user about to convert to ubuntu, is there anyone who would b willing to give me some pointers?
[08:00] <stizoner> so instead of: sudo gedit /etc/fstab  what do i put to edit it with kate?
[08:00] <bur[n] er> Gatton: xterm -e sudo fdisk -l
[08:01] <rhelmer> stizoner: if you know vi, you can use that instead of gedit.. nano if not
[08:01] <nightmaster> can someone help me find a package for x-windows
[08:01] <bur[n] er> Gatton: well... run xterm and do it ;)
[08:01] <stizoner> english? :D
[08:01] <Zen> alexc: make sure everything you have is compatible before installing ;p
[08:01] <bur[n] er> anyone know hwo to get term windows to "pause" so to speak?
[08:01] <DukGalNamu> alexc: get a bottle of asparin for the install and configure, you are god to go after that though
[08:01] <DukGalNamu> *good
[08:01] <stizoner> u lost me rhelmer :D
[08:01] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: ctrl-s
[08:01] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: ctrl-q to continue
[08:01] <Madpilot> stizoner: instead of "sudo gedit <whatever>" do "sudo nano <whatever>"
[08:01] <Wanderer> Currently, it won't connect to the internet or give me a reasonable screen resolution. And the log in screen text is unreadable. I can't see if a patch would fix my problem, because, were the net working, I would have to wade through a hundred or more cryptic file names in the add-on repository, all of which contain no description of thier intended purpose....
[08:01] <Zen> any idea how to install glib-config/glib ver greater than 1.2.2
[08:02] <stizoner> ahhhh thank you
[08:02] <Zen> anyone?
[08:02] <rhelmer> stizoner: what Madpilot said :)
[08:02] <_frank> alexc: do you know what mj12node is? if you don't you can ignore me...
[08:02] <bur[n] er> rhelmer: anyway I can do it via argument passed or piped or something?
[08:02] <alexc> _frank no idea
[08:02] <bur[n] er> xterm -e less `sudo fdisk -l`
[08:02] <alexc> DukGalNamu - is it that horrible??
[08:02] <Zen> someone help :(
[08:02] <_frank> alexc: ok, never mind
[08:03] <Zen> i get glib errors configuring xmms
[08:03] <Zen> i need to play something badly
[08:03] <Gatton> bur[n] er, Id is 83 Linux...i'm assuming that's ext2?
[08:03] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: yes, you can use signals.. SIGSTOP and SIGCONT
[08:03] <DukGalNamu> alexc: for me it was, but i had very odd hardware...
[08:03] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: signals can be sent using "kill".. see the "kill" manpage
[08:03] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: man kill
[08:03] <alexc> Zen - i have a friend who uses linux at home, so he should b able to help me with the compatibility
[08:03] <DukGalNamu> alexc: chances are if you are dealing witha stock system it wont be a problem
[08:03] <stizoner> wait, how about a normal text editor?
[08:03] <bur[n] er> Gatton: got gparted?  that has names ;)
[08:03] <alexc> _frank - why, wat is it?
[08:03] <Zen> check the compatibility list
[08:03] <Zen> you don't need help
[08:03] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: you could use kill to stop/cont by PID
[08:03] <Zen> there is a hardware compat list
[08:03] <Zen> on the site
[08:03] <_frank> alexc: its a web c
[08:03] <Gatton> bur[n] er, not yet but i'll apt-get it. thanks for the help
[08:03] <bur[n] er> rhelmer: dont' think you get my meaning
[08:04] <alexc> DukGalNamu - well i can only hope that i am not the same, how long did it take you??
[08:04] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: no please clarify :)
[08:04] <_frank> alexc: its a web crawler made by a guy named alexc. I was just wondering if you were him
[08:04] <Zen> oh well
[08:04] <bur[n] er> Gatton: sure... gparted cant resize ntfs, but qtparted can
[08:04] <Zen> i'll post on forums
[08:04] <Zen> :/
[08:04] <Zen> bye all
[08:04] <bur[n] er> rhelmer: i want to run an app in an xterm and make that xterm not close automatically
[08:04] <Gatton> bur[n] er, that's ok. Once I back up my data from XP that partition is gone ;)
[08:04] <alexc> _frank - right, nope, diff guy :D
[08:05] <bur[n] er> rhelmer: similar to... xterm -e less `sudo fdisk -l`  <--but that doesn't work
[08:05] <DukGalNamu> alexc: for ubuntu... umm... 2-3 hours to get gnome running.... with my wierd a monitor and GPU, but i was jumping between distros and taht took me over a week
[08:05] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: oh i see. hmm the "read" command (from bash) will let you pause on user input
[08:05] <nightmaster>  /j #linuxforums
[08:05] <nightmaster>  /join #linuxforums
[08:05] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: e.g. "read y"
[08:05] <DukGalNamu> nightmaster: take the space out
[08:05] <alexc> DukGalNamu - sounds like a nightmare
[08:05] <nightmaster> thanks
[08:05] <Gatton> ok folks. off to back up my data and kill the NTFS partition. see ya
[08:05] <alexc> DukGalNamu - i can see why you needed asprin
[08:06] <DukGalNamu> alexc: for me it was, if you have a realativly new system and you haven't modded your system then it wont be a problem.
[08:06] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: oh i see what you are trying to do.. hm
[08:06] <_frank> alexc: try the ubuntu live cd to see how hardware detection goes
[08:06] <bur[n] er> rhelmer: any ideas?
[08:06] <alexc> DukGalNamu - thanks for the advice
[08:06] <DukGalNamu> alexc: do what frank says
[08:06] <DukGalNamu> :P
[08:07] <_frank> alexc: and figure out if there are equivalent applications to do everything you want to do
[08:07] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: so you want to take the output of a command and pipe it to less right? do you care only that it pauses, or that it is opened in less?
[08:07] <bur[n] er> i don't care about less
[08:07] <alexc> _frank - i was going to d/l that from the website
[08:07] <bur[n] er> just want the window to not close... though piping it to less seems like a cooler idea now ;)
[08:07] <stizoner> does it matter that lines dont line up in fstab? im setting it to automount /home/user/Desktop/Storage, just matters that theres a space between options right?
[08:07] <Wanderer> Currently, Ubuntu won't connect to the internet or give me a reasonable screen resolution. And the log in screen text is unreadable. I can't see if a patch would fix my problem, because, were the net working, I would have to wade through a hundred or more cryptic file names in the add-on repository, all of which contain no description of thier intended purpose....
[08:08] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: how about xterm -e "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda ; read y"
[08:08] <vitriol> stizoner: thats right
[08:08] <stizoner> Wanderer, i dont know what im talking about.. but i think for screen probs u need vesa
[08:08] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: hit any key to make it go away.. if you type "y" or not it changes the exit code.. (probably not important in your case..)
[08:08] <Wanderer> vesa?
[08:08] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: even better forget the y
[08:09] <stizoner> i said i didnt know what i was talkin about
[08:09] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: xterm -e "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda ; read"
[08:09] <alexc> _frank - i also found a website which is an unofficial guide to ubuntu, so going to read through that
[08:09] <_frank> alexc: you mean ubuntuguide?
[08:09] <JasonOfEarth> hey is /proc/acpi/event supposed to be unreadable even if you turn of acpi?
[08:09] <_frank> alexc: the wiki is more comprehensive
[08:09] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: that'll run the command, and regardless of the exit code from "sudo fstab -l /dev/hda" it'll run read to listen for user input
[08:09] <Madpilot> !tell alexc about ubuntuguide
[08:09] <Wanderer> Then why did you reccomend a program, yet give no info about it?
[08:10] <alexc> _frank - well then ill go read that, im on "ubuntuguide.org" now
[08:10] <Wanderer> What is vesa?
[08:10] <_frank> Wanderer: he means to change the video driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to vesa
[08:11] <_frank> Wanderer: its a very basic display mode. It should just work
[08:11] <bur[n] er> Wanderer: gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:11] <Madpilot> alexc: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead
[08:11] <Wanderer> So my GUI won't be as nice with vesa?
[08:11] <bur[n] er> Wanderer: look for "driver" and use vesa instead of e.g. ati or radeon
[08:11] <rhelmer> Wanderer: if your networking and video hardware doesn't "just work", then it is probably a missing driver or autodetect problem.. we'd need more info on your hardware
[08:12] <bur[n] er> Wanderer: better yet... gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:12] <rhelmer> Wanderer: "internet connection" can be more complex, depending on if you need to configure DSL, or if it's done for you by a router (e.g. linksys) or corporate network, or if you need to configure dialup
[08:12] <_frank> Wanderer: it might be lower resolution and performance will be slower but at least it should work for now
[08:13] <alexc> Madpilot  - thanks for that, looking now
[08:13] <DukGalNamu> is there a mac os 9 emulater?
[08:13] <Wanderer> OK. I have an intel for video. I have dailup for net.
[08:13] <DukGalNamu> anyone?
[08:14] <salvius> hi, anyone shed any light on how to get 1280x800 on my Acer laptop?
[08:14] <Ice9> yea
[08:14] <_frank> Wanderer: what do you mean by login text is unreadable?
[08:14] <rhelmer> salvius: do you know what the graphics chip is?
[08:14] <Wanderer> It's VERY tiny.
[08:14] <_frank> Wanderer: the text or the whole screen?
[08:14] <Wanderer> Just the text.
[08:15] <DukGalNamu> anyone know of an os9 emulator?
[08:15] <_frank> Wanderer: once you're in GNOMe is text ok?
[08:15] <stizoner> ok i set it to auto mount my fat32 partition according to ubuntu's instructions, says an warning when i boot, utf=8 something bad bad.....characters.... i dont know it flew by fast
[08:15] <Wanderer> Yep.
[08:15] <stizoner> vfat utf8 bad or something
[08:16] <Wanderer> _frank:yep.
[08:16] <rhelmer> salvius: you can find out with "lspci" command in the terminal, or you can probably look on Acer's website with your laptop's model number.
[08:16] <La_PaRCa> Hello. Someone is having trouble with apache2 + php4. He has libapache2-mod-php4 installed with all the deps and still php pages dont parse. Any ideaS?
[08:17] <_frank> Wanderer: I don't really know about the login screen problem
[08:17] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: what's the error message exactly?
[08:17] <_frank> Wanderer: but if GNOME is ok, its not critical
[08:17] <La_PaRCa> rhelmer, no error message. When I try to load the php page in firefox it tells me if I want to download it. When I do, I get the php code.
[08:17] <Wanderer> oh.
[08:18] <Wanderer> 'bye.....
[08:18] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: that sounds more like a Firefox setting. tell it to just process php, and it might be OK.
[08:18] <_frank> La_PaRCa: I heard about this problem before. I have no idea how to fix it but I'm sure you can find the solution in the forums
[08:18] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[08:18] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: what does the download dialog say that the mime type is?
[08:19] <La_PaRCa> rhelmer, php Script.
[08:19] <La_PaRCa> _frank, will look into it.
[08:19] <rhelmer> Madpilot: apache should set the mime-type to text/html, shouldn't need web users to configure it :)
[08:19] <DukGalNamu> does anyone know of a os9 emulator????
[08:19] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: is the filename .php or .phps ?
[08:19] <La_PaRCa> rhelmer, php
[08:20] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: look in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[08:20] <Madpilot> rhelmer: yeah, but some servers are evidently screwed up, and need a bit of help from browsers...
[08:20] <La_PaRCa> rhelmer, the page is: http://mrpetah.homelinux.org/
[08:20] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: #AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[08:20] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: if that's commented out, uncommented it and reload apache2
[08:21] <_frank> DukGalNamu: look into pearpc
[08:21] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: that page loads just fine for me, in Opera 8.02/Ubuntu...
[08:21] <_frank> DukGalNamu: I don't really know it
[08:21] <La_PaRCa> that line is in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf
[08:22] <DukGalNamu> _frank: interesting, so i would just install mac and run it through linux...
[08:23] <Ice9> why can I only play dvds with xine when I load xine through root? I gave my user all the privilidges listed
[08:24] <_frank> DukGalNamu: yeah, pearpc emulates the whole computer
[08:24] <Crissy> DukGalNamu: maybe this will help? http://www.synthesis.ch/os9exec/
[08:25] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, the link that says blog
[08:27] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: ah, OK, I'm seeing a screenful of raw PHP code. Your server isn't interpreting it, it's being served uncooked...
[08:28] <rob^> not good.
[08:28] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, you cant be serious!
[08:29] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: I'll post a screenshot if you want, but I've got http://mrpetah.homelinux.org/blog/index.php showing me a whole pile of raw PHP
[08:30] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, I am sorry, I was being an ass. I know that is whats wrong, And I have looked everywhere for the error. conf files, error files, reinstalling and I still cant get a fix.
[08:30] <azriel0184> is there a way to search for apt packages that provide a certain file?
[08:30] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: did you uncomment that AddType line in apache2.conf?
[08:31] <La_PaRCa> rhelmer, its not in the apache2.conf its in the mods-enabled php4.load file, and its uncommented
[08:31] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: odd looks different on my system.
[08:31] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: this is from ubuntu pkgs not source?
[08:31] <La_PaRCa> rhelmer, yeah, ubuntu packages
[08:32] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: ok i just installed the php pkg on my laptop, going to see if i can reproduce :)
[08:33] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: hmm i didn't even have to uncomment that line; php worked right away for me.
[08:33] <Madpilot> I've got the full Apache/PHP/MySQL stack on this box, and I've got "#AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" in my apache2.conf
[08:33] <Madpilot> rhelmer: me too
[08:33] <La_PaRCa> ooohhhh... this is quite weird...
[08:34] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: you are running Apache2 and not Apache 1.3.x?
[08:34] <La_PaRCa> for _some_ reason /etc/init.d/apache is loeading apache 1.3.33
[08:34] <La_PaRCa> I just figured that out
[08:34] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: you are right the AddType in modes-enabled/php4.conf does override (as it should)
[08:34] <rhelmer> La_PaRCa: hmm well that could be related eh?
[08:34] <La_PaRCa> rhelmer, marginally ;P
[08:34] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: uninstall 1.3.33, then
[08:34] <h08817> hello
[08:35] <rhelmer> h08817: hi
[08:38] <ms12> !breezy
[08:38] <ubotu> breezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[08:38] <nightmaster> anyone know of y windows
[08:38] <ms12> ! upgrade to breezy
[08:38] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ms12
[08:41] <Madeye> guys, I have directory with about 500 tar.gz file, how to extract all of them at once>?
[08:41] <Dekon> tar xzvf *.tar.gz ? :)
[08:42] <rhelmer> Madeye: for file in *.tar.gz; do tar zxf ${file}; done
[08:42] <_frank> Madeye: does tar zxvf *.tar.gz work?
[08:42] <_frank> I have to remember that for file loop...
[08:43] <rhelmer> _frank: the expansion will make it look like "tar zxf file1.tar.gz file2.tar.gz file..."
[08:43] <Madeye> _frank, no its ot working
[08:43] <rhelmer> _frank: which means "extract file...tar.gz from file1.tar.gz"
[08:43] <rhelmer> _frank: rather than "invoke tar once for each tar file" :)
[08:43] <Madeye> rhelmer,  thanks, works smoothly
[08:43] <_frank> ok
[08:45] <rhelmer> _frank: i hated that it didn't work in unix when i was used to DR-DOS :)
[08:45] <rhelmer> Madeye: cool
[08:46] <bur[n] er> ooh... nice tip :)
[08:47] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: file is the var being defined, so it could be "for n in 1 2 3 4; do echo ${n}; done
[08:47] <rhelmer> "
[08:47] <bur[n] er> aww
[08:47] <bur[n] er> AlexC: why
[08:47] <rhelmer> AlexC: what are you converting from? :
[08:48] <rhelmer> :)
[08:48] <AlexC> rhelmer - windows
[08:49] <bur[n] er> AlexC: no worries
[08:49] <azriel0184> is there a way to search for apt packages that provide a certain file?
[08:49] <pablo928> I have a problem with a Gigafast EE-400-R router, when I switched to Ubuntu it makes my browser very slow to load. I've run speed tests and http and ftp upload and download speeds don't seem to be affected. I contacted Gigafast and was told to lower the MTU and if  that didn't work that they had no idea since they don't support Linux (even though the ads for the router say that they do.) Can anyone help? lowering the MTU from 1500 to 
[08:49] <robotgeek> azriel0184: which file are u looking for?
[08:50] <azriel0184> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[08:50] <bur[n] er> pablo928: firefox?
[08:51] <AlexC> bur[n] er: is it really that easy? one of my friends says to make sure i read through the documentation before converting, i have found ALOT of documentation, this may take a while :P
[08:51] <bur[n] er> AlexC: only good ones are ubuntuguide.com and the ubuntu wiki
[08:51] <Dekon> Ubuntu is super easy.
[08:51] <pablo928> bur[n] er: yes Firefox, but I've tried other browser and had the same problem.
[08:51] <Dekon> Most distros are super easy now, actually. x.-
[08:51] <bur[n] er> AlexC: let me rephrase.. ubuntuguide.org
[08:52] <bur[n] er> pablo928: the browser window itself loading?
[08:52] <bur[n] er> or web pages? or what?
[08:52] <rhelmer> AlexC: have you tried the live CD? you can boot from CD and not remove your existing windows install/files, so you can see what it's like
[08:52] <bur[n] er> pablo928: turn of ip6 in firefox?
[08:52] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[08:52] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[08:52] <bur[n] er> aww... i like ubuntuguide
[08:52] <AlexC> ubotu: yeah, i was already told about that
[08:52] <ubotu> AlexC: Wish i knew
[08:52] <Dekon> Ditto, bur[n] er.
[08:52] <rhelmer> bur[n] er: hehe
[08:53] <azriel0184> robotgeek, libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[08:53] <bur[n] er> AlexC: ubotu is just a bot ;)
[08:53] <bsd_puffy> I'm trying to find the onboard information in my dmesg but not having any luck, the output is hard for me to read. If you don't mind looking I'd appreciate it, http://tinyurl.com/3uhlj
[08:53] <pablo928> bur[n] er:I turned off ipv6 and optimized pipelining, this seemed to help some. But the pages still load very slowly.
[08:53] <AlexC> rhelmer: i was going to d/l the cd and then use that
[08:53] <bur[n] er> pablo928: different with a different router?
[08:53] <bur[n] er> u sure it's your router?
[08:53] <AlexC> bur[n] er: hmm...cant half tell im new at all this then can you :D
[08:54] <rhelmer> bsd_puffy: tinyurls are just asking for goatse trolls
[08:54] <bur[n] er> AlexC: no worries mate, burn an iso... boot live... love it... install it... never look back :)
[08:54] <rhelmer> bsd_puffy: but you would never do that :)
[08:54] <pablo928> bur[n] er:I was usinf  a USTAR voip adapter as a router and didn't have this problem
[08:55] <AlexC> bur[n] er: ok, ill do that then, thanks people, you have been very informative!!
[08:55] <rhelmer> AlexC: the only thing i'd be careful about is preserving your windows install.. if you dual boot or something, you'll want to be able to boot into windows and access your files most likely, if you have problems
[08:56] <AlexC> rhelmer: wat do you mean by preserve my windows instal?
[08:56] <rhelmer> AlexC: well if you want windows and ubuntu installed on the same harddrive, and choose to start one or the other at boot time (aka dual boot)
[08:57] <wizo> is anyoen experiencing problems with playing sounds from flash files?
[08:57] <rhelmer> AlexC: the ubuntu installer makes this pretty easy, but you need to know hardware details about how to resize partitions, etc.
[08:57] <Dekon> I haven't.
[08:57] <AlexC> rhelmer: ok then, ill be sure to come back here WHEN i get problems, heheh
[08:58] <wizo> i try to go to flash sites but then i dun get any sound
[08:58] <nightmaster> when is the new ubuntu comeing out
[08:58] <rhelmer> AlexC: ok, just be aware that the installer gives you the option to remove your windows install, so make sure you understand that when doing the install :)
[08:58] <rhelmer> AlexC: the live CD of course does nothing of this sort
[08:59] <noodle> would anyone know the reason why i can access a public rw smb share directly from os x, smb://ip/my_share, but i can't seem to "browse" shares? smb://ip just hangs?
[08:59] <wizo> anyone has any ide ay i cant play sound from flash sites?
[08:59] <AlexC> rhelmer: ok, so if i eventually decide to install the whole thing, make sure i dont remove my windows if i still want it, but with the live cd, i dont have ot worry
[09:00] <AlexC> rhelmer: is the live cd just like opening an application on windows?
[09:00] <wizo> AlexC: its not like opening an application on windows
[09:00] <rhelmer> AlexC: you've got it.. with the live CD, you put the CD in your drive and reboot
[09:00] <Dekon> noodle: Are you doing it from the gui or command line?
[09:00] <rhelmer> AlexC: instead of starting windows from the harddrive, it starts ubuntu from CDROM
[09:00] <bur[n] er> AlexC: and make sure your BIOS is set to boot from CD... or... maybe your BIOS has a f12 option to pick boot device
[09:01] <AlexC> rhelmer: ok then, i get it now, i have an option of where to boot from
[09:01] <noodle> Dekon: command+k so i'd say gui? it's Finders connect to share
[09:01] <bur[n] er> AlexC: yes
[09:01] <bur[n] er> generally, PCs 1st priority is the cd rom anyway
[09:01] <robotgeek> noodle: u brought back OSX memories!
[09:01] <rhelmer> AlexC: yes.. as bur[n] er says it can be changed on the machine, in the BIOS.. nowadays the CD rom is usually tried first, then hard drive
[09:02] <noodle> robotgeek: lol :)
[09:02] <Dekon> Try using smbclient //ip/sharename from the command line and see what happens. Might tell you something interesting.
[09:02] <bur[n] er> noodle: why is it that you're using OS X instead of Gnome? :)
[09:02] <AlexC> rhelmer - bur[n] er: ok, thanks alot guys
[09:02] <Dekon> Gnome is a memory hog s'why I don't use it ;P
[09:02] <noodle> bur[n] er: i use both >< aqua on os x gnome on ubuntu :P
[09:02] <noodle> Dekon: brb testing it
[09:02] <robotgeek> wow...OS X has been ported to ubuntu lol
[09:03] <bur[n] er> noodle: tiger or panther?
[09:03] <robotgeek> i don't think tiger would work well on my laptop
[09:04] <noodle> bur[n] er: tiger
[09:04] <bur[n] er> noodle: just curious... if you were hoping for insight, i'm sorry...  I just wanted to confirm that Apple was still crappy with windows shares with Tiger too ;)
[09:05] <Dekon> noodle: Any luck?
[09:05] <stizoner> when doing hdparm should i edit it as /dev/hdg or the actual partition i use /dev/hdg1 ?
[09:05] <wizo> O.o
[09:06] <wizo> /dev/hda
[09:06] <noodle> Dekon: it just says Domain=[WORKGROUP]  OS=[Unix]  Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-ubuntu]  then asks for my password and i can connect
[09:06] <Dekon> So no problem connecting from command line. I don't know anything about OSX from that on. Can you do what you need to from cli?
[09:07] <stizoner> hda? whats that mean all drives?
[09:07] <wizo> it means
[09:07] <wizo> yur hard drive
[09:07] <wizo> for me
[09:07] <stizoner> my hard drive is hdg
[09:07] <wizo> err ok
[09:07] <wizo> do hdg then
[09:07] <noodle> Dekon: pretty much, but it shouldn't be asking for my password at all should it? i elected for no authentication r/w public share (last section) on ubuntuguide.org
[09:07] <stizoner> k lol
[09:07] <aqua> anyone here have a problem with ubuntu on nvidia systems
[09:08] <bur[n] er> ndg?  wtf...  you have 8 hard drives/cdroms
[09:08] <aqua> screen always goes out of sync on start up
[09:08] <Dekon> noodle: Just hit enter. It always asks me for my password when I connect to my gf's windows machine as well. I just hit enter.
[09:08] <wizo> bur[n] er: i was wondering
[09:08] <noodle> Dekon: ah ok
[09:08] <nightmaster> Dekon:  hacking ur gf?
[09:08] <wizo> bur[n] er: nvidia, i doubt its that good
[09:09] <wizo> bur[n] er: i tried install the drivers for it, but i ended up with a blank screen when start up
[09:09] <wizo> lolx
[09:09] <Dekon> nightmaster: No. We keep our music folders open to one another and a few other various dirs.
[09:09] <noodle> Dekon: but still doesn't explain why i can't "browse" via command+k smb://ip, if i do that it stays "connecting..." for ever :(
[09:09] <nightmaster> Dekon: how cute and technological
[09:09] <Dekon> Yeh. I can't explain that :/
[09:09] <aqua> huh?
[09:09] <f_newton> deckon thats a windows thingt
[09:09] <rhelmer> stizoner: the device not partition
[09:09] <rhelmer> stizoner: e.g. /dev/hdg
[09:09] <bur[n] er> hrm... time for bed, night all
[09:09] <aqua> i changed xorg.conf to use nvidia driver and added nvidia to /etc/modules
[09:10] <wizo> nite bur[n] er
[09:10] <aqua> why the **** would it go out of sync :(
[09:10] <noodle> oh well :|
[09:10] <Dekon> f_newton: What's a windows thing?
[09:10] <wizo> aqua: mine cant even find my laptop screen after i install drivers
[09:10] <aqua> heh
[09:10] <f_newton> hitting enter when it asks for password and accepting that as auth
[09:11] <f_newton> you can also easily overflow the password buffer
[09:11] <Dekon> f_newton: If I turn it on and set passwords I have to actually give a password before it lets me in.
[09:11] <f_newton> yes
[09:12] <Dekon> I assumed it always asked for one regardless of system.
[09:12] <wizo> anyone has any idea y i cant play sounds on flash sites?
[09:12] <f_newton> unless you take advantage of the password buffer overflow glitch
[09:12] <aqua> anyone know why i cant do 1600x1200 :(
[09:12] <rhelmer> aqua: what kind of video card?
[09:12] <Dekon> Why would I do that? Her machine is two feet to my right and I have an admin account on her machine :P
[09:12] <wizo> nvidia im guessing
[09:12] <stizoner> the instructions for hdparm could be a little easyier, lol.. i have 2 maxtor drives very modern, ex: one 8mb cache one 16mb cache, and its hooked up to a promise fastrack ata133 controller, and i remember in windows the driver for it has write caching ON and recommends it
[09:13] <Seveas> wizo, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:13] <Seveas> one-line fix
[09:13] <wizo> oo
[09:13] <rhelmer> wizo: it's the sound server
[09:13] <f_newton> bbiab
[09:13] <wizo> google didnt turn that site up as a result
[09:13] <rhelmer> wizo: esd
[09:13] <rhelmer> wizo: if you turn off esd firefox can play sound in flash..
[09:13] <rhelmer> wizo: kind of annoying :/
[09:13] <Seveas> rhelmer, not needed
[09:13] <Seveas> rhelmer, read that page I gave wizo
[09:14] <DukGalNamu> how is ubuntu support for usb mice and keyboards?
[09:14] <wizo> my uni just received 100 copies of ubuntu
[09:14] <Seveas> DukGalNamu, good
[09:14] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: at install?
[09:14] <Seveas> yes
[09:14] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: ever hear of mac on linux?
[09:14] <Seveas> usb mice/keyboards work out of the box as long as they speak the standard protocol (which all do)
[09:15] <DukGalNamu> ahh
[09:15] <Seveas> it's just the 'hotkeys' that don't always work, but that's the same on windows without drivers installed
[09:15] <DukGalNamu> or pearpc
[09:15] <rhelmer> Seveas: ah.. cool thanks
[09:15] <Seveas> I heard of MoL, apparently is nice. But I don't own a mac, so never tried it
[09:16] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: k, just wondering...
[09:17] <bobulor> hi everyone
[09:17] <Seveas> ho
[09:17] <Seveas> hi even
[09:17] <mattyJ> is there anyway to get the trash can on the desktop??
[09:17] <wizo> wooohooo
[09:17] <wizo> thanks Seveas
[09:17] <bobulor> before I begin this eveing I need to make a single, vital point clear. I = noob
[09:18] <bobulor> with that said I need help getting my music players to work. Can anyone offer a suggestion?
[09:18] <Seveas> mattyJ, not that I know of, the panel is also more appropriate for it imho :)
[09:18] <power-X> Whoa.
[09:18] <Seveas> bobulor, of course we can
[09:18] <Seveas> !mp3
[09:18] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:18] <power-X> I just found Ubuntu--they really send free CDs to people?
[09:18] <Seveas> ^-- read that page bobulor
[09:18] <HrdwrBoB> power-X: yes
[09:18] <Office> I'm having problems logging into Ubuntu 5.04 on VMware
[09:18] <Seveas> If you have any questions after that, come back and ask
[09:18] <mattyJ> Seveas: you used to be able to, weird they would take that out
[09:19] <Seveas> power-X, yes, http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <Office> The screen is all distored at the GNOME splash, and I can't work out how to fix it
[09:19] <power-X> HrdwrBoB: Okay...why?
[09:19] <Office> Booting up though, everything else appears clearly
[09:19] <wizo> power-X: the only compromise is that it takes 1.5months
[09:19] <aqua> hmm
[09:19] <Seveas> mattyJ, maybe a simple ln -s ~/.Trash ~/Desktop/Trashcan does work
[09:19] <wizo> but its good though
[09:19] <aqua> i just want a 1600x1200 resolution :(
[09:19] <Office> Anyone?
[09:19] <salvius> need some help...  ubuntu does not display battery life
[09:20] <Seveas> salvius, added the correct applet to your panel?
[09:20] <power-X> wizo: Oh, that's unfortunate.
[09:20] <Seveas> aqua, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:20] <wizo> power-X: its worth it
[09:20] <power-X> wizo: I was going to order Debian from cheapbytes, but they charge $18 + shipping now
[09:20] <wizo> but i might forget that u actually ordered it
[09:20] <wizo> u*
[09:20] <Seveas> power-X, the send out approx. 120.000 cds per week, there is quite a backlog sometimes..
[09:20] <Office> help please.... when i get to GNOME log in, the screen is garbled.. how do i do an xconfig?
[09:20] <salvius> seveas: how can I know which applet is correct?
[09:20] <f_newton> download deb if you want it.... my suggestion is to use ubuntu
[09:20] <wizo> power-X: where about are u?
[09:21] <rhelmer> salvius: it's called "Battery Charge Monitor"
[09:21] <Seveas> salvius, the "Battery Charge Monitor"
[09:21] <KarlosII> will Ubuntu AMD64 install on DELL????
[09:21] <KarlosII> dual core
[09:21] <salvius> seveas: ya, that's the one...
[09:21] <Seveas> KarlosII, dells don't ship amd afaik, so no
[09:21] <Seveas> salvius, that should work...
[09:21] <f_newton> not as of yet they dont
[09:21] <KarlosII> Seveas: um
[09:21] <f_newton> they have discussed it however
[09:21] <Seveas> do you boot without acpi?
[09:22] <power-X> wizo: Arizona, USA
[09:22] <power-X> But who is paying for sending all those CDs out?
[09:22] <KarlosII> Seveas: AMD64 = INTEL EMT64 pretty much except for some extra extensions for EMT64
[09:22] <wizo> power-X: if u were in melbourne, u could come to my uni to grab one
[09:22] <salvius> seveas: it displays: "system is running on battery power Unknown time (0%) remaining"
[09:22] <Office> does anyone know how i can get the screen to display clearly? it only happens once the boot reaches the gnome login screen
[09:22] <wizo> my tutor ordered 100 10 weeks ago
[09:22] <wizo> finally arrived
[09:22] <f_newton> why would you need 100 disks?
[09:23] <wizo> for uni
[09:23] <KarlosII> :)
[09:23] <Seveas> salvius, cat /proc/acpi/battery/*/state
[09:23] <Seveas> salvius, cat /proc/acpi/battery/*/info
[09:23] <power-X> Anyone know?
[09:23] <wizo> computer science students
[09:23] <Seveas> if that gives you weird things, paste it on the pastebin
[09:23] <Seveas> power-X, canonical pays
[09:23] <KarlosII> Seveas: AMD64 = INTEL EMT64 pretty much except for some extra extensions for EMT64
[09:23] <wizo> power-X: its some multi millionaire
[09:23] <robotgeek> Mr. Mark Shuttleworth, i guess
[09:23] <power-X> Who is canonical?
[09:23] <wizo> yesh
[09:23] <Seveas> KarlosII, you might give it a try, I can guarantee nothingm never heard of someone who tried
[09:23] <HrdwrBoB> KarlosII: the other way around
[09:23] <wizo> thats the name
[09:24] <wizo> shuttleworth
[09:24] <HrdwrBoB> KarlosII: EM64t is a pointless waste of time
[09:24] <Seveas> power-X, Canonical is the company that sponsors Ubuntu
[09:24] <KarlosII> HrdwrBoB: nononon
[09:24] <Crissy> hi, since apt-get -u update or apt-get -u dist-upgrade doesn't update my firefox I downloaded it as a file. How do I install it from /home/mima/My Downloads/Apps
[09:24] <Seveas> www.canonical.com
[09:24] <salvius> seveas: state -- unable to read battery status
[09:24] <wizo> who is also an astronaut
[09:24] <KarlosII> HrdwrBoB: that is incorrect
[09:24] <Office> need help please... how can i get ubuntu 5.04 to display GNOME clearly under VMware?
[09:24] <salvius> seveas: the info displays correctly, I believe
[09:24] <Seveas> salvius, do you have noacpi or other acpi boot parameters?
[09:24] <KarlosII> vmware
[09:24] <KarlosII> wow
[09:24] <Office> yes
[09:24] <Office> on XP
[09:24] <Seveas> Office: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[09:24] <HrdwrBoB> KarlosII: how is that incorrect.
[09:24] <KarlosII> Office: figured
[09:25] <salvius> saveas: not that I know of.
[09:25] <power-X> Seveas,wizo: So what does this guy get out of doing this?
[09:25] <KarlosII> Because 8 people have told me this: AMD64 = INTEL EMT64 pretty much except for some extra extensions for EMT64
[09:25] <Seveas> salvius, try acpi=force as boot parameter
[09:25] <robotgeek> does anyone know how to get my external usb hdd to show up at the same place like, /dev/sda1 or so?
[09:25] <HrdwrBoB> KarlosII: yes that's correct
[09:25] <rhelmer> power-X: Mark Shuttleworth did an interesting talk at Debconf about just that
[09:25] <HrdwrBoB> KarlosII: but the point is, em64t is a hack
[09:25] <salvius> saveas: I shall try...  if it works, any way to make it permanent?
[09:25] <HrdwrBoB> KarlosII: amd64 was first, and it actually runs faster
[09:25] <KarlosII> HrdwrBoB: I know
[09:26] <Seveas> robotgeek, it should automount to /media/LABEL_OF_USBDISK_FILESYSTEM
[09:26] <HrdwrBoB> KarlosII: em64t will on the whole make your system SLOWER
[09:26] <HrdwrBoB> and as such is a pointless waste of time
[09:26] <rhelmer> power-X: he is independently wealthy at this point; he started Thawte (SSL cert authority; sold to Verisign)
[09:26] <KarlosII> anyhow it's a dual core system
[09:26] <HrdwrBoB> dual core == SMP
[09:26] <HrdwrBoB> esp for P4
[09:26] <Seveas> power-X, he gets a kick out of it :)
[09:26] <aqua> WTF!
[09:27] <c0rrupt_> im trying to make install something
[09:27] <salvius> saveas: thank you for the help, I shall go try your suggestion now
[09:27] <rhelmer> power-X: http://www.whiprush.org/2005/07/shuttleworths_d.html
[09:27] <c0rrupt_> i get this error[09:27] <c0rrupt_> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpq
[09:27] <robotgeek> Seveas: it doesn't autmount for me, maybe i installed something which screws it up!
[09:27] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, then install libpq-dev or something
[09:27] <prasys> can someone help me.How can I get airporte exterme to work with ubuntu *under ppc*..will ndiswrapper work or is it only for x86
[09:27] <aqua> i watched ubuntu install gcc
[09:27] <KarlosII> HrdwrBoB: what do you mean by that?
[09:27] <cyphase> ubuntu should have a central address book system..
[09:27] <aqua> but its not there
[09:27] <Seveas> robotgeek, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[09:27] <robotgeek> prasys: it won't work, period
[09:27] <robotgeek> Seveas: ubuntu
[09:27] <c0rrupt_> no such package
[09:27] <prasys> thanks robotgeek
[09:27] <Seveas> cyphase, there will be
[09:27] <HrdwrBoB> KarlosII: I mean that SMP is the same as dual core for intel chips
[09:27] <cyphase> besides evolution
[09:27] <prasys> i hate broadcom
[09:28] <HrdwrBoB> dual core intel is  two cores glued together
[09:28] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, apt-cache search libpq | grep dev
[09:28] <KarlosII> HrdwrBoB: right
[09:28] <power-X> rhelmer: This is just weird.  I used to follow the Linux happenings for a while, then I kind of dropped out, now I'm looking to install Linux again and there are all of these distros I've never heard of, Ubuntu being one of them.
[09:28] <cyphase> Seveas, i know :)
[09:28] <cyphase> but i mean soon
[09:28] <c0rrupt_> libpqxx-dev?
[09:28] <cyphase> not eventually
[09:28] <cyphase> but i can't ask to much
[09:28] <cyphase> breezy is great :)
[09:28] <cyphase> so far..
[09:28] <c0rrupt_> libpqxx-dev - C++ library to connect to PostgreSQL (development files)
[09:28] <robotgeek> Seveas: i had gnome-volume-manager removed, gonna reinstall and watch
[09:28] <rhelmer> power-X: :) you probably know this, but it's debian based.. some of the debian developers were hired by Canonical Ltd. to create ubuntu
[09:29] <c0rrupt_> that?
[09:29] <KarlosII> where can i publish feature requests for breezy
[09:29] <rhelmer> power-X: was called "no-name-yet" for a while :)
[09:29] <Seveas> robotgeek, g-v-m is indeed responsible for this, together with hal & pmount
[09:29] <cyphase> KarlosII, you can't now
[09:29] <power-X> rhelmer: So Canonical is non-profit?
[09:29] <KarlosII> bummer
[09:29] <cyphase> Aug. 11 was the deadline
[09:29] <robotgeek> Seveas: thanks
[09:29] <c0rrupt_> Seveas, ?
[09:29] <c0rrupt_> libpqxx-dev?
[09:29] <KarlosII> cyphase: oh well
[09:29] <Seveas> c0rrupt_, yes
[09:29] <c0rrupt_> k
[09:29] <aqua> /dev                  897M  106M  744M  13% /.dev
[09:29] <aqua> wtf is that
[09:29] <cyphase> KarlosII, you can call your feature a bug though..
[09:29] <Seveas> or postgresql-dv
[09:30] <Seveas> aqua, nothing peculiar
[09:30] <Seveas> it just means that /dev and /.dev are the same
[09:30] <KarlosII> heh
[09:30] <rhelmer> power-X: no.. they are working on "ubuntu foundation" which would be though
[09:30] <soad> i have problems with memory i think, so i cant install ubuntu and no other OS. It is restarting my cpu..but can i test my memory somehow with ubuntu's installation CD. At the beginning of instalation i can insert kernel's command..i am totally n00b
[09:31] <rhelmer> power-X: canonical will provide support, and there will be an "enterprise" ubuntu, but it'll always be free
[09:31] <bobulor> seveas: I made changes to synaptic based on repositories that had something to do with ubuntu not have the ability to do something
[09:31] <bobulor> seveas: it's cranking away at something... i hope
[09:31] <freddy> anyone have tried installing pitivi on ubuntu?
[09:31] <Seveas> bobulor, hmm, paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin
[09:31] <rhelmer> power-X: the video of his talk is quite interesting on that point, to me.. I don't think they are focused really on the business model, just on doing it right and seeing what happens..
[09:31] <c0-> i wanna ask.. does ubuntu really free of charge??
[09:32] <freddy> O_o
[09:32] <Seveas> yes c0-
[09:32] <c0rrupt_> thanks seveas
[09:32] <bobulor> seveas: pastebin?
[09:32] <Seveas> !pastebin
[09:32] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:32] <Seveas> ^--
[09:32] <bobulor> ???
[09:32] <bobulor> !pastebin?
[09:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:32] <KarlosII> re topic
[09:32] <freddy> follow the damn link :D
[09:32] <KarlosII> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:32] <c0-> have anyone tried to deliver it to indonesia?
[09:32] <c0-> i'm in indonesia
[09:33] <KarlosII> and rtft
[09:33] <Seveas> c0-, the cds are delivered worldwide
[09:33] <c0-> ic..
[09:33] <power-X> rhelmer: Well, my computer doesn't have sound at the moment :)
[09:33] <freddy> read the fuc**** what KarlosII ?
[09:33] <rhelmer> power-X: hehe
[09:33] <Seveas> freddy, topic
[09:33] <freddy> oh
[09:33] <freddy> lol
[09:33] <KarlosII> freddy: read the topic
[09:33] <rhelmer> power-X: i don't know of a transcript at this time.. it's the most info I've heard on what's going on "behind the scenes" so far..
[09:33] <freddy> so, anyone tried pitivi?
[09:34] <freddy> im having an error when starting it :(
[09:34] <power-X> rhelmer: So it's kind of creepy?
[09:34] <rhelmer> power-X: creepy? hehe no i don't think so
[09:34] <Seveas> freddy, what is the error? (if it's large -> pastebin)
[09:34] <bobulor> seveas: bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[09:34] <freddy> hold on a sex Seveas
[09:34] <rhelmer> power-X: what did i say that gave that impression?
[09:34] <soad> i have problems with memory i think, so i cant install ubuntu and no other OS. It is restarting my cpu..but can i test my memory somehow with ubuntu's installation CD. At the beginning of instalation i can insert kernel's command..i am totally n00b
[09:34] <freddy> err
[09:34] <freddy> sec
[09:34] <Seveas> :)
[09:34] <freddy> lol
[09:35] <Seveas> bobulor, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <rolo> Hi people, good morning. How do I install Macromedia Flash in Firefox?
[09:35] <rhelmer> soad: there is a boot option, "memtest86", installed by ubuntu.. i believe it is on the livecd as well
[09:36] <power-X> rhelmer: Well, I mean you don't know the agenda.
[09:36] <freddy> Seveas,
[09:36] <freddy> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1463
[09:37] <rhelmer> power-X: well, I don't think he has much motivation to do "whatever it takes" to make money, and he has no shareholders to answer to.. most of the projects he runs are charitable
[09:37] <Seveas> freddy, that's simply a bug in pitivi, notify the pitivi developers about it
[09:38] <freddy> oh
[09:38] <rolo> Can somebody tell me how I install Macromedia Flash on Ubuntu?
[09:38] <freddy> not good
[09:38] <Seveas> !flash
[09:38] <ubotu> I heard flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:38] <freddy> gonna email them
[09:38] <rhelmer> power-X: as with anything it's a trust issue :) I have a lot of trust for the particular debian developers involved, but there's of course personal bias and all that
[09:38] <wizo> mad
[09:39] <wizo> this old man gave a 19 year old waitress a porsche
[09:39] <bobulor> seveas: i got the post finished
[09:39] <wizo> as a tip
[09:39] <bobulor> who is ubotu
[09:39] <rhelmer> power-X: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/ has more info on the man who started canonical..
[09:39] <bobulor> !ubotu
[09:39] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:39] <power-X> rhelmer: Okay.  See, at first it sounded like charity, and then you say it's for profit.  That just didn't work out in my head.
[09:39] <power-X> rhelmer: Is ordering 10 CDs too much?
[09:40] <bobulor> !fixmycomp
[09:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, bobulor
[09:40] <bobulor> dang
[09:40] <rhelmer> power-X: np. it's complicated... canonical ltd. is intended to make money somehow, but they don't seem to be in a hurry
[09:40] <power-X> rhelmer: I only need one, but it said to feel free to order more, and the default was ten.
[09:40] <Seveas> bobulor, that sources.list looks ok, what's the problem?
[09:40] <rhelmer> power-X: well i can't speak for them; i ordered a bunch myself to give out
[09:40] <bobulor> seveas: none of my music players work
[09:40] <rhelmer> power-X: i think the shipit web page will warn you if you ask for an unreasonable amount
[09:40] <power-X> rhelmer: Yeah, I know some people I can give away to.
[09:40] <robotgeek> Seveas: thanks, it worked
[09:41] <Seveas> power-X, the cost of shipping is way higher than the cost of cds :)
[09:41] <rolo> When I hit apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree it says the package does not exist
[09:41] <power-X> Seveas: yeah
[09:41] <Seveas> bobulor, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:41] <power-X> Seveas: Where are they shipping from, any ideas?
[09:41] <Seveas> that makes totem/rhythmbox play MP3
[09:41] <rhelmer> power-X: mine came from the netherlands ..
[09:41] <Seveas> power-X, hoary is shipping from the netherlands
[09:41] <bobulor> seveas: I used Sound Juicer CD Ripper to get some songs off of some cd's. They are in the ogg format. Whenever I try to load them into xmms or something i get an error or something freezes up
[09:42] <Seveas> bobulor: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[09:42] <power-X> Oh wow, I think that's the other side of the world.
[09:42] <Seveas> totem/rhythmbox should play ogg without any hassle
[09:42] <rolo> power not for me =P
[09:42] <freddy> jesus, i ordered a copy, im in venezuela, its going to take a while until it get here
[09:42] <Seveas> power-X, the cd's are being shipped form a place 50km from me and they still took 6 weeks to arrive :)
[09:43] <bobulor> seveas: in response to your previous command
[09:43] <rolo> I downloaded it..
[09:43] <rolo> :P
[09:43] <freddy> Seveas, lol seriously?
[09:43] <bobulor> seveas: i got: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:43] <bobulor> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:43] <Seveas> freddy, yes, most of the time goes into the waiting queue at the CD manufacturer :)
[09:43] <power-X> Seveas: Well, I'm not in that big of a hurry.  But I always wanted to try Debian, so this will give me my chance.
[09:43] <bobulor> seveas: how do i change my audio plugin?
[09:43] <rhelmer> freddy: why not download the CD image in the meantime? that is what i did :) i only asked for some to be shipped to give away nice printed copied
[09:43] <Seveas> bobulor, close synaptic while doing this
[09:43] <rhelmer> er s/copied/copies/
[09:44] <freddy> well, thats what i did too rhelmer ;)
[09:44] <samp> Can someone give me a link of all the potential software I can run on the Ubuntu OS?
[09:44] <power-X> samp: Are you familiar with GNU/Linux?
[09:44] <Seveas> samp, http://packages.ubuntu.com is a list of officially shipped packages
[09:44] <samp> Yes
[09:44] <bobulor> seveas: gstreamer0.8-mad is already the newest version.
[09:44] <bobulor> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[09:44] <Seveas> and there is about 10x as much on sites like sourceforge.net or berlios.de
[09:45] <rhelmer> freddy: i guess we are just ahead of the game then :)
[09:45] <freddy> yup
[09:45] <freddy> hehe
[09:45] <bobulor> seveas: how do i change my audio plugin?
[09:45] <freddy> i love this distro, it is just outregous
[09:45] <rhelmer> bobulor: it is in the settings..
[09:45] <rhelmer> bobulor: depends on the player.. xmms?
[09:45] <bobulor> why not
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> Compiled without LIBSSH support, module not available!
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> how can i install libssh
[09:46] <rhelmer> bobulor: ctrl-p, under "output plugin" select "esound output plugin"
[09:46] <c0rrupt_> support
[09:46] <rhelmer> bobulor: click ok
[09:46] <power-X> What is Warty, Hoary, and Breezy?
[09:46] <samp> It is so difficult to get anywhere on a programming project
[09:46] <ilba7r> !breezy
[09:46] <ubotu> hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[09:46] <stizoner> whats devfs?
[09:47] <aqua> ok got my monitor working
[09:47] <robotgeek> life has been cool after i disabled my capslock key!
[09:47] <ilba7r> !info breezy
[09:47] <samp> Is ubuntu the best OS?
[09:47] <aqua> i had to set refresh rates
[09:47] <aqua> samp; ubuntu isnt an OS
[09:47] <c0rrupt_> , module not available!:
[09:47] <c0rrupt_> meh
[09:47] <samp> It is a distribution of an OS.
[09:47] <bobulor> rhelmer: I made the change. Does that fix it?
[09:47] <samp> Is it the best distribution?
[09:47] <stizoner> samp yes
[09:47] <rhelmer> bobulor: you tell me :) it changes the output plugin; does it work now?
[09:48] <stizoner> its the best OS
[09:48] <rolo> the best, the best
[09:48] <bobulor> ill try loading  a song
[09:48] <rhelmer> bobulor: i have xmms set that way, and works on my laptop
[09:48] <rolo> what is the best
[09:48] <robotgeek> ubuntu is an it just works distro
[09:48] <robotgeek> of course, u probably are here cause it doesn't!
[09:48] <stizoner> downloads my pron 33% faster then the leading OS
[09:48] <rolo> stizoner: lol
[09:48] <samp> I am here to get a few tips.
[09:48] <power-X> So which version will they send me?
[09:48] <samp> I just bought a windows machine.
[09:48] <stizoner> lol
[09:48] <rolo> samp: go to the terminal and type yes then enter xP
[09:49] <ompaul> stizoner, u have pron?
[09:49] <aqua> stizoner; its pr0n get it right
[09:49] <stizoner> only like a terrabyte of it
[09:49] <power-X> Eh, you guys and your porn.
[09:49] <robotgeek> damn...i keep seeing pron as porn!
[09:49] <rolo> it's the same =)
[09:49] <stizoner> it is robotgeek
[09:49] <bobulor> rhelmer: i hit the load list button and tried to load up a song. in the song list window about 16000 songs showed up made up of random characters
[09:49] <aqua> touch my norp
[09:49] <aqua> err haha
[09:49] <power-X> Where did that come from anyway? "pron"
[09:49] <aqua> nrop
[09:49] <aqua> power-x; some kid and a typo
[09:49] <Beruga> It's a censor bypass, if I recall correctly.
[09:49] <bobulor> rhelmer: i dont think it worked
[09:49] <rolo> power, just a typo '1337' kids thought it was good
[09:49] <rhelmer> bobulor: don't know about the "random characters" issue, that's odd
[09:49] <robotgeek> i guess pron was typed in hurry!
[09:50] <rhelmer> bobulor: can you just load a song and see if it works?
[09:50] <cyphase> hopefully breezy will ship with the beagle extension for firefox installed..
[09:50] <bobulor> rhelmer: i just tried to
[09:50] <rolo> power-x it's like 'PWN' instead of 'own' and 't3h' and shit.
[09:50] <rhelmer> bobulor: why not use rhythmbox, or totem, or something not-awful (like xmms) :)
[09:50] <rolo> You know
[09:50] <power-X> Maybe "pron" or "porn" when typed with one hand.
[09:50] <power-X> *or --> is
[09:50] <bobulor> rhelmer: ok, how do i get whatever you're talking about?
[09:50] <rhelmer> bobulor: well, not sure what the problem is.. what list did you try to load?
[09:51] <robotgeek> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/children/kidtalk.mspx
[09:51] <stizoner> the best place to get pRon is empornium, its like porno heaven, i got 500gb up/down for 10months, but theres members who must be server admins or something with 1000's terrabytes
[09:51] <robotgeek> explains it all!
[09:51] <rhelmer> bobulor: you can use the Synaptic Package Manager in System->Administration
[09:51] <emile> i have a tvcard and audio output on soundcard, can i get audio output on usb headset too?
[09:51] <robotgeek> stizoner: can i porn-get it?
[09:51] <rhelmer> bobulor: can you try loading one song, using the "eject" button in xmms?
[09:51] <bobulor> rhelmer: /home/robert/music/MyCD2 is my directory for xmms
[09:51] <emile> using tvtime
[09:51] <stizoner> no but u can command line bittorrent
[09:52] <bobulor> rhelmer: what eject button?
[09:52] <rhelmer> bobulor: in xmms
[09:52] <stizoner> xmms is major ugly
[09:52] <rhelmer> bobulor: it looks like "eject", like an arrow pointing up with a line under it..
[09:52] <rhelmer> bobulor: bad metaphor :)
[09:52] <rhelmer> xmms is t3h l4m3
[09:52] <rolo> tar xvjf gplflash-0.4.13.tar.bz2
[09:52] <rolo> uups
[09:52] <rolo> wrong page
[09:52] <rolo> xp
[09:52] <rolo> xP
[09:53] <rolo> wrong 'werkblad', wtf is that in English lol
[09:53] <rhelmer> bobulor: i have xmms installed in hoary, and it works fine, but it's not really ideal for media playing imho
[09:53] <ompaul> robotgeek, what search brought that on?
[09:53] <rhelmer> bobulor: i like rhythmbox for music, muine is also nice, totem (the movie player) can even play most formats
[09:54] <emile> rhelmer: what do you use for mozilla video?
[09:54] <robotgeek> ompaul: microsoft l33t
[09:54] <bobulor> rhelmer: i did it the way you said. this time it played through the song really fast ( a 4 minute song in about 5 seconds) and made no sound
[09:54] <rhelmer> emile: mozilla-mplayer
[09:54] <bobulor> rhelmer: i have muine, it doesn't work either
[09:54] <rhelmer> emile: not ideal imho
[09:54] <stizoner> what the fuck is wtf?
[09:55] <robotgeek> ompaul: i got the link a long time ago, off a blog
[09:55] <rolo> Lol!
[09:55] <emile> rhelmer: k ;-)
[09:55] <rolo> Lol stizoner.
[09:55] <stizoner> :P
[09:55] <robotgeek> :)
[09:55] <rhelmer> bobulor: perhaps you have deeper problems :)
[09:55] <robotgeek> !lart stizoner
[09:55] <rhelmer> bobulor: go to System->Preferences->Sound
[09:55] <emile> i'm having a little trouble getting sound output to usb headset from tvtime, can someone please help?
[09:55] <samp> does ubuntu support sd cards and wireless internet?
[09:55] <rolo> !lart robotgeek
[09:56] <rhelmer> bobulor: is "Enable sound server on startup" checked?
[09:56] <bobulor> rhelmer: ayep
[09:56] <robotgeek> permission denied, are u root?
[09:56] <rolo> sudo
[09:56] <rhelmer> bobulor: ok.. hmm.. have you ever heard ubuntu make sound? :)
[09:56] <ompaul> robotgeek, :)
[09:56] <robotgeek> :D
[09:57] <emile> tvtime is working, i have a picture and i also have sound over internal soundcard, however not over usb headset
[09:57] <bobulor> rhelmer: sound works fine for normal stuff: like when i try to type something and I can't it beeps. Sound also works for games like WoW
[09:57] <rolo> My flash wont....install......like, what do I do?
[09:57] <emile> xmms eg does play over headset
[09:57] <rhelmer> bobulor: WoW under ubuntu?
[09:57] <rhelmer> bobulor: the "beep" is PC speaker and happens at a different level, doesn't require a sound driver
[09:58] <bobulor> rhelmer: talk to muk_amd64 on #gentoo-amd64 to find out how he did it
[09:58] <rhelmer> bobulor: ?
[09:58] <rhelmer> bobulor: did what? :)
[09:58] <bobulor> rhelmer: he was the one who put my computer together, physically. He went to the stor with me, told me what to get, put it all together and initially put gentoo on it
[09:59] <rhelmer> bobulor: but now you have ubuntu?
[09:59] <bobulor> rhelmer: gentoo was way over my head so he put ubuntu on for me... which is also way over my head
[09:59] <emile> i switched to ubuntu 2 days ago
[09:59] <emile> i like it ;-)
[09:59] <rhelmer> bobulor: :) ok .. it sounds like maybe your sound driver is not being detected/loaded, or perhaps the sound server cannot start
[10:00] <bobulor> rhelmer: muk_amd64 = computer guru, I = dontunderstandagoddamthing
[10:00] <rhelmer> bobulor: can you start a terminal and run the following:
[10:00] <salvius> hello, can anyone help me figure out why my battery monitor isn't working?
[10:00] <rhelmer> bobulor: hmm well can't you consult with him then ? :)
[10:00] <ompaul> bobulor, was that other operating system hard to use? (not gentoo the one before that :-))
[10:01] <bobulor> ompaul: gentoo was my first, and was too hard for me to keep up with. muk_amd64 gave me ubuntu
[10:01] <emile> does anyone of you guys have sound output from tvtime over an usb headset, and if yes how did you do it?
[10:02] <bobulor> rhelmer: I came here b/c muk is primarily a gentoo guy, and he couldn't solve my problems
[10:02] <rhelmer> bobulor: ok i would check the following in the terminal: ps -ef | grep esd
[10:02] <rhelmer> bobulor: basically, is esd (the sound server) running?
[10:02] <bobulor> rhelmer: robert    7928     1  0 Aug20 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[10:02] <bobulor> robert   28601 28079  0 02:02 pts/1    00:00:00 grep esd
[10:03] <bobulor> rhelmer: what's that mean?
[10:03] <rhelmer> bobulor: ok so it's running.. it was able to start up.. that's good :)
[10:03] <bobulor> rhelmer: what told you it's running?
[10:03] <rhelmer> bobulor: esd is runnig .. /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[10:04] <brent> has anybody ever heard of any train simulators for a young child? Just thought id ask while googling for hours to find one for my nephew.
[10:04] <bobulor> rhelmer: ...ok, so what's my next test?
[10:04] <rhelmer> bobulor: ok check System->Multimedia Systems Selector
[10:04] <sergi86> #palafrugell
[10:04] <rhelmer> under Audio tab, make sure the Default sink and Default source are ESD - Enlightened Sound Daemon
[10:05] <rhelmer> bobulor: you can click the "test" button there
[10:05] <rhelmer> bobulor: beware - the test sound is annoying :) make sure your speakers are not too high
[10:06] <emile> brent: there is something called trainz which has something to do with trains.
[10:06] <bobulor> rhelmer: they were on alsa. when i clicked test and waited a few seconds, nothing happened
[10:06] <rhelmer> bobulor: ok try changing to ESD instead of alsa
[10:06] <bobulor> rhelmer: i did make the change, and tested afterwards. Nothing happened
[10:07] <rhelmer> bobulor: the sound server (esd) allows multiple sounds to be played at once, on any sound card .. high end sound cards can actually play more than one sound at once
[10:07] <brent> emile: thanks, checking out now ;)
[10:08] <catfox> hi all. i'm just starting out with python/glade development and hit a stumbling block.
[10:08] <catfox> is there anyone here with a little experience of it? (i'm trying to get the X button to call gtk.main_quit()
[10:08] <bobulor> rhelmer: after I made the change, testing the default sink as esd made no noise. testing the default source made no noise and froze the testing pipeline application. I had to force quit it
[10:09] <catfox> oh crap, i did it! :)
[10:09] <Seveas> catfox, #python might be more appropriate
[10:09] <catfox> Seveas, ok, thanks.
[10:09] <brent> emile: lol, that looks cool for me, a 28 y.o.   my bad though, I need one a bit less complicated. My nephew is three, lol. But ty anyway.
[10:10] <bobulor> rhelmer: just for grins I changed the default sink back to alsa to test it. Not only did it not work but i got an error saying it couldn't even test alsa
[10:10] <emile> brent: i never used it i just saw it once. i'm not really into trains ;-)
[10:10] <Seveas> default source should be OSS, default sink ESD and esd should be running
[10:10] <bobulor> seveas: my comp is so screwed up. I think muk knew only about as much about ubuntu as me when he installed it
[10:10] <rhelmer> bobulor: if you want the sync to use alsa, you need to stop the sound server in System->Preferences->Sound
[10:11] <Lever> An update to the k7 kernel was issued yesterday or the day before.. Has anybody had any problems with it? I can no longer access my external harddrive, it's not detected anymore..
[10:11] <bobulor> rhelmer: i dont care whether it's in alsa or esd or any of the others. I dont know what they mean. Im just trying to make at least one of them work
[10:11] <rhelmer> bobulor: you generally want to leave sound server running though; it allows you to have more than one app making sound at once
[10:11] <rhelmer> bobulor: follow Saveas' advice above; make sure the default sink is ESD
[10:11] <brent> emile: its cool. no offense to you at all. I thank you. i just want to find a childrens game involving trains is all. something like thomas the train or something. he would love it. thanks anyway though
[10:11] <rhelmer> need to get some sleep... night all
[10:12] <emile> brent: yw
[10:12] <bobulor> rhelmer: after my fluke test of alsa, i made suyre everything was esd
[10:12] <Lever> brb
[10:12] <emile> is there an devicename in /dev for usbheadsets
[10:13] <Seveas> /dev/dsp2 (generally)
[10:13] <brent> ill keep searching. i wish walmart and such carried more linux games. wine perhaps would work, but i dont have it installed currently. might be a pain in the rear just to install one game. thinking of bustin out the ol W98 disk for dual boot, lol
[10:13] <emile> ok i'll try forcing tvtime audio output to that device
[10:13] <bobulor> seveas: rhelmer had me testing the default sink/source on Multimedia Systems Selector. I had both as esd but the test made no noise. What should I do?
[10:14] <Seveas> bobulor, default source should be oss, defult sink esd
[10:14] <Seveas> and check with pgrep esd whether esd is running
[10:15] <bobulor> seveas: I made the change for default source but the tests for both make no noise
[10:15] <Seveas> default source test should be silent, default sink can only make a noise if esd is running
[10:15] <Seveas> pgrep -l esd
[10:15] <Seveas> lsof /dev/dsp
[10:15] <bobulor> seveas: how do i know if esd is running? If not, how do i make it run?
[10:16] <bobulor> o
[10:16] <Seveas> paste the output of those commands in a private chat
[10:16] <emile> hmm doesnt make a difference using tvtime -x /dev/dsp2 still audio output on internal soundcard not on usb
[10:16] <bobulor> seveas: for "pgrep -l esd" i got the response 7928 esd
[10:17] <bobulor> seveas: how do i do private chat?
[10:17] <emile> in general can output from internal soundcard line-in be played on usb sound device?
[10:18] <Seveas> emile, hmm... sounds tricky...
[10:18] <Crissy> Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree, where do I point to for it to find it?
[10:18] <Seveas> flashplayer-mozilla - Macromedia Flash Player
[10:18] <emile> Seveas: what would be an approach if one wanted to try that?
[10:18] <Seveas> (multiverse)
[10:18] <Seveas> emile, it would require a line-in -> esd -> usb pipe
[10:19] <bobulor> seveas: it's getting late. Plus my lack of understanding/success is making my pissoff-o-meter hit its peak. Thank you for your help but I thinks it's best if I quit for the night. cya
[10:19] <Seveas> but the line-in -> esd part is the thing i'm not sure of
[10:19] <Seveas> bobulor, ok, cya later, sleep welL!
[10:19] <bobulor> aye
[10:20] <emile> Seveas: line-in is working i have audio output from linein on the speakers
[10:20] <emile> how to check if esd is processing those?
[10:21] <Seveas> you could try to record with esdrec (package esound-clients)
[10:21] <emile> i'll give it a try
[10:21] <Seveas> or esdmon
[10:22] <Crissy> seveas, this is what is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so is this all I need?
[10:22] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-file search /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.solibflash-mozplugin: usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so
[10:22] <TEG> Hi, I tried to install the kernel source in ubuntu but i keep getting this error : E: Couldn't find package kernel-source-2.6.10-5-386
[10:23] <Seveas> TEG, linux-source-2.6.10
[10:23] <TEG> what seveas?
[10:23] <Seveas> that's the package name...
[10:23] <TEG> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:24] <TEG> i do this
[10:24] <TEG> then it get that error
[10:24] <Seveas> there are no kernel-* packages in Ubuntu except for a few bad imports back in Warty
[10:24] <TEG> k
[10:24] <TEG> then how to i get the right kernel to install my NFORCE?
[10:24] <Seveas> you have it my default
[10:24] <Seveas> Ubuntu kernels support nforce
[10:25] <Lever> My external harddrive is no longer automatically detected.. It just suddenly stopped. It's still accessible in Windows, so it's not a hardware thing. How would I go about troubleshooting this?
[10:25] <TEG> no the installer says that i dont have the proper kernel
[10:25] <Seveas> possibly you need to load a few modules manually (like forcedeth for network)
[10:25] <Seveas> installer for what?
[10:25] <TEG> NFOCE
[10:25] <TEG> NFORCE
[10:25] <Seveas> don't use installers for that
[10:25] <Seveas> all you need is in the linux kernel
[10:25] <Seveas> and all you need is available in stock Ubuntu kernels
[10:27] <emile> Seveas: esdmon is not giving any output when playing tv. i followed the sound guide on ubuntuguide to get sound working (and it does except line-in -> usb)
[10:27] <Lever> My HD :'( Does anybody know what to do about it?
[10:27] <Seveas> eeek emile
[10:28] <Seveas> that part of ubuntuguide is the crappiest
[10:28] <Seveas> Lever, gnome-volume-manager and hald running?
[10:28] <Lever> Yes, that part of ubuntuguide messed things up for me.
[10:28] <Seveas> the entire ubuntuguide.org is crap
[10:28] <emile> hehe
[10:28] <ompaul> !tell teg about nvidia
[10:29] <Lever> well gnome-volume-manager is running...
[10:29] <keith> does anyone know if Evolution supprts hotmail.com
[10:29] <Lever> Oh I wouldn't say the entire guide is crap.. It did sort some things out
[10:30] <Seveas> keith, you can use hotway as a proxy
[10:30] <Lever> hald is not running, whatever that is :)
[10:30] <Lever> doesnt show up in the system monitor at least
[10:31] <Seveas> well, that's your problem then
[10:31] <Seveas> did you uninstall hal?
[10:31] <keith> seveas, is hotway another emil client?
[10:31] <Lever> ah well ps -A shows hald
[10:32] <Lever> No, I didn't do anything except update the k7 kernel.. that's the only thing I can think of.. the update was issued yesterday or the day before
[10:32] <Seveas> keith, it is a hotmail-to-pop3 proxy
[10:32] <Seveas> you run it as a service on your machine and you can connect your e-mail client to hotway, which will in turn contact the hotmail server
[10:33] <Lever> I tried booting the old 386 kernel, but that didnt find the drive anymore
[10:33] <Lever> meh, all my goodies are on that drive :|
[10:33] <lancellor> hey guys how do iget something like taskbar
[10:34] <keith> seveas>  I'm new to this... how do you run services?
[10:35] <lancellor> when i run azureus and click the close button still running on background
[10:35] <Seveas> apt-get install hotway
[10:35] <Seveas> and read the docs in /usr/share/docs/hotway/
[10:36] <emile> lancellor: closing azureus leaves it running on the background leaving a clickable icon on the top right
[10:36] <keith> seveas, thanks.. I'll have to read up on it..
[10:37] <lancellor> i don't have the top right
[10:37] <KarlosII> WOW WOW WOW WOW, a breakthrough as big as the discovery of plastic and steel
[10:37] <KarlosII> http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/003330.html
[10:37] <KarlosII> carbon nanotubes mass production breakthrough
[10:37] <KarlosII> the world will change
[10:39] <emile> lancellor: you don't have a clock in the right upper corner?
[10:39] <ompaul> !hotmail
[10:39] <ubotu> I guess hotmail is if you must use this microsoft product, consider hotway: hotwayd/hotsmtpd are POP3/SMTP-HTTPMail gateway daemons, also works for lycos spray and msn
[10:40] <emile> !usb
[10:40] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, emile
[10:40] <hondje> KarlosII: thanks for the link
[10:40] <lancellor> no i did not like it takes a lot of space
[10:40] <KarlosII> np
[10:40] <H0lyD4wg> the channel topic no longer says "Don't use Breezy!!1eleven". what happened?
[10:40] <derflo> is there a faq discussing differences between debian-ubuntu?
[10:41] <KarlosII> lol
[10:41] <Seveas> H0lyD4wg, Colony CD 3 is out - the testing phase has started
[10:41] <Seveas> derflo: Ubuntu and debian have different goals, a different release schedule and different, but overlapping communities. See also http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship
[10:41] <derflo> thanks
[10:41] <Seveas> H0lyD4wg, read: please test breezy and send a test report to ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[10:41] <KarlosII> all patches are forwarded to the debian maintainers
[10:42] <derflo> am just looking for faq's because i got to reinstall my machine and I want to give ubuntu a try.
[10:43] <H0lyD4wg> Seveas: will do :)
[10:43] <adwait> aloha
[10:43] <hondje> One difference is that no one flammed you for asking ;-)
[10:43] <Seveas> :))
[10:44] <ompaul> emile can you say more about usb and what it was is that you are curious about?
[10:44] <emile> ompaul: getting audio line-in to work on usbheadset
[10:45] <emile> lancellor: my icons are in the notification area, perhaps you can add a notification area to your existing bars?
[10:46] <poningru> I had a question why cant we use pictbridge to print from linux?
[10:46] <poningru> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PictBridge
[10:46] <ompaul> emile,  http://www.linuxlogin.com/linux/emu10k1.php
[10:46] <poningru> it would work with many printers
[10:46] <Lever> Can I manually mount an external harddrive? How do I find out the device name?
[10:46] <poningru> and no need to mess around with the drivers
[10:46] <emile> ompaul: i'll check it out
[10:49] <Lever> Anybody?
[10:50] <ook_> when installing new kernel package do I need to do anything but to select the package and install?
[10:50] <Gatton> Well XP has been excised and Ubuntu is now the main OS. Now I gotta configure Ubuntu all over again. A lot of preferences :)
[10:51] <ecker> i forgot how to get my net running on start up can someone remind me how?
[10:51] <derflo> does ubuntu come without kde?
[10:51] <ecker> derflo yes
[10:52] <Alex> derflo: Ubuntu doesn't have KDE as its default WM, but you can install it :)
[10:52] <Madpilot> derflo: Ubuntu uses Gnome; Kubuntu uses KDE
[10:52] <ook_> ecker: system->administration->networking
[10:52] <Alex> derflo: Kubuntu has KDE as the default KDE
[10:52] <Alex> er, default WM
[10:52] <ecker> derflo unless u want kde then use kubuntu
[10:52] <derflo> ah, ok
[10:53] <lancellor> did not work on notification area
[10:53] <adwait> ecker: pppoe?
[10:54] <derflo> is there anything i sould be aware of when switching from debian? link would be fine.
[10:54] <Madpilot> need sleep. good night/morning/$time_of_day, everyone
[10:54] <derflo> Madpilot: good night
[10:54] <ecker> adwait idk i do dhcpclient to get my net running when i start up
[10:54] <evader> Does 'dont use breezy' not being in the topic finally, mean it's nearly-stable, or not too risky?
[10:55] <adwait> evader: i asked tht in the morning........and was told, that it is more stable not, but it would still be a risk to upgrade
[10:55] <adwait> *now
[10:55] <evader> ok
[10:55] <ecker> im actually using kubuntu, but no one ever really talks inthere
[10:56] <adwait> hehehe
[10:56] <evader> thanks adwait, i'll hold off just a bit longer
[10:56] <adwait> evader: hmm..........i am doing ditto :)
[10:56] <nophix> ecker: #kubuntu :)
[10:56] <evader> adwait: i did switch once to breezy, quite a while ago - was ALMOST ok, except some apps i really needed at the time, broke.
[10:56] <evader> :(
[10:57] <adwait> evader: how much of a difference is there? apparently theres lots more eye candy in gnome now..............but i use IceWM, so doesn't really make a difference to me
[10:57] <evader> yeah well i use wmi alot of the time
[10:57] <evader> not after the eye cany
[10:58] <evader> candy*
[10:58] <crimsun> deFrysk: come again?
[10:58] <evader> just the tree switch really
[10:58] <evader> because i want some apps like Beagle to work better
[10:59] <adwait> evader: wmi....hmm, first time i heard of this window manager...........how is it?
[11:00] <H0lyD4wg> as far as logos go, wmi's wasps are among the best :)
[11:00] <crimsun> evader: you'll want to hold off on Breezy for a bit longer
[11:00] <stizoner> how do i login as root?
[11:00] <ZincX> su
[11:01] <crimsun> !tell stizoner about root
[11:01] <Alex> stizoner: at a console, any root commands can be done with sudo (or sudo su -)
[11:01] <stizoner> no
[11:01] <lancellor> any like taskbar for gnome??
[11:01] <stizoner> no
[11:01] <adwait> !root
[11:01] <stizoner> no no no no
[11:01] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:01] <stizoner> lol
[11:01] <Alex> H0lyD4wg: Cough, I may be biased, but the Source Mage GNU/Linux Raven is cool :)
[11:01] <WodanTJ> hm i did a sudo su && passwd :)
[11:01] <stizoner> so that means i cant do simple right click commands on crap as root
[11:01] <stizoner> because it involves sudo
[11:01] <stizoner> konsol
[11:01] <WodanTJ> i have a fever so i didn't remember if i did give a password :)
[11:02] <crimsun> if you read the instructions, stizoner, you'll see another way
[11:02] <Alex> Anyway, you should never be in a WM as root - bad voodoo
[11:04] <hondje> Michael Robertson is going to log in an argue that, just watch
[11:04] <jtan325> how come when i do "man sscanf" it doesn't show anything?
[11:04] <crimsun> you don't have manpages-dev installed
[11:04] <jtan325> ok, thanks
[11:04] <Alex> hondje: He who play in root eventually kill tree
[11:04] <hondje> hehe
[11:05] <Seveas> zen-fu :)
[11:05] <alexander_> how can I check the current runlevel?
[11:06] <hondje> alexander_: runlevel
[11:06] <Alex> hondje: I quite happily do anything as root from my box with SELinux, but.. :)
[11:06] <stizoner> haha i did extact what it said, then i loged out and tryed login as root and said its not allowed
[11:06] <derflo> can i use apt-get without crunching synaptic?
[11:06] <stizoner> i just want 2 delete a folder wich i dont have permission for some reason 2 do
[11:06] <hondje> I might if on my gentoo hardened box, but probably wouldn't then either :)
[11:07] <derflo> mean: swap between the two
[11:07] <Seveas> derflo, you can't have apt-get and synaptic running at the same time
[11:07] <derflo> ah, ok
[11:07] <evader> derflo: yes you can swap between them
[11:07] <Seveas> but closing synaptic and then running apt get is OK
[11:07] <evader> use one at a time though
[11:07] <Seveas> they all operate on the sama database
[11:07] <Seveas> same*
[11:07] <Robinho_Peixoto> what it is equivalent to "ipconfig /flushdns" of windows ?
[11:07] <derflo> ah ok
[11:07] <jtan325> ifconfig?
[11:07] <stizoner> just delete a folder! thats all, yet my OS owns me, it like the govt... it knows whats best for me
[11:07] <Seveas> which is exactly why you can't use them both at the same time :)
[11:07] <Robinho_Peixoto> jtan325, no
[11:08] <Robinho_Peixoto> jtan325, ifconfig don't flsh the dns
[11:08] <derflo> does ubuntu use swsuspend or suspend2?
[11:08] <hondje> oh hey, you can use who -r too
[11:09] <derflo> forget it, i found the "resume" line on the faq
[11:09] <nophix> stizoner: sudo rm -rf /tehfolder, is that so hard?
[11:10] <stizoner> yes!
[11:10] <stizoner> it is
[11:10] <nophix> move to another distro
[11:10] <nophix> or get root
[11:10] <stizoner> i dont want to become this geek of commands who uses linux, and never get laid again, i like my mouse and being stupid
[11:10] <oceandead> hahaha
[11:10] <nophix> lol, troll
[11:11] <crimsun> there's absolutely no correlation, but nice try
[11:11] <Seveas> stizoner, great way to grt ignored...
[11:11] <Seveas> get*
[11:12] <jtan325> stizoner, linus torvalds has a kid
[11:12] <jtan325> and a wife obviously
[11:12] <jtan325> i am sure he had to get laid at least once after he became geek of commands
[11:12] <nophix> linus gets free sex
[11:12] <ms12> any one have gnome-panel running in breezy
[11:12] <jtan325> haven't you done a google search for "linux girls"?
[11:12] <DukGalNamu> CURSES!!! why can't there be a good d2 like game on the market??
[11:13] <ms12> !libcairo1
[11:13] <ubotu> ms12: I don't know
[11:13] <stizoner> there finally
[11:13] <nothingmuch> is there a font package for openoffice hebrew fonts?
[11:13] <nothingmuch> or do i need to convert the system fonts
[11:13] <ms12> !info libcairo1
[11:13] <ubotu> libcairo1: (Multi-platform 2D graphics library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.3.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 118 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[11:13] <ms12> !info libcairo1 v0.6
[11:14] <stizoner> actually linux is extreamly easy 2 use for idiots, my moms pc has ubuntu on it and she never has a problem, because she doesnt do a single thing except browse the web and thats it
[11:14] <crimsun> ms12: libcairo1 -> libcairo2
[11:14] <ms12> crimsun and how i tell apt that
[11:14] <deFrysk> stizoner, your mom is an idiot you mean ?
[11:14] <Seveas> apt-get install libcairo2
[11:14] <crimsun> ms12: come again?
[11:14] <ms12> i need to install gnome-panel and it keep asking for this lib
[11:14] <Seveas> hoary or breezy?
[11:15] <stizoner> yeah computer wise
[11:15] <ms12> breezy
[11:15] <ms12> libcairo0.6
[11:15] <oceandead> you upgraded to breezy didnt you ?
[11:15] <oceandead> good luck !
[11:15] <stizoner> its demanding people like me who have problems
[11:16] <DukGalNamu> why can't diablo2 just run?!?!?
[11:16] <Seveas> because it's a windows game..?
[11:16] <stizoner> just browse the web DukGalNamu
[11:16] <crimsun> it purportedly runs under Cedega
[11:16] <emile> Robinho_Peixoto, have you tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[11:16] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: it is supposed to run under wine
[11:17] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: i got it about half way at one point...
[11:17] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: i know, don't make me cry....
[11:17] <theD3viL> i must know what port gaim using for sending files?
[11:17] <stizoner> everytime i start it my firefox icon has moved... so i move it back 2 where i like it.... later on i reboot... its moved again! it dont wana stay still
[11:18] <libanes> hi dudes
[11:18] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: don't reboot
[11:18] <stizoner> lol
[11:18] <DukGalNamu> ROFL
[11:18] <ms12> Seveas i am just testing breezy if it is a known problem then its ok. If not where can i report it?
[11:18] <stizoner> i gotta reboot 2 get into windows dude
[11:18] <libanes> i need to now the last kernel for p4 mobile 3.06
[11:18] <oceandead> yeah real tragedy - youre firefox icon moved 2cm
[11:18] <oceandead> your*
[11:18] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: to play D2?
[11:18] <stizoner> no
[11:18] <stizoner> 2 watch porn
[11:18] <Seveas> ms12, there is a libcairo transition going on at the moment, you should run apt-get update frequently
[11:19] <stizoner> aint got the codec issue sorted out yet
[11:19] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: you don't need  windows for that :P
[11:19] <stizoner> 10% my stuff wont play
[11:19] <Seveas> and wait a few hours before reporting this as a bug (search through bugzilla too)
[11:19] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: you just need the w32 codecs... plust porn is safer on nix systems cause viruses can't do jack
[11:19] <stizoner> got those
[11:19] <ms12> ok Thanx seveas. By the way i have an empty partition and some time on my hand if some tests are required it would be a pleasure to help :)
[11:19] <Seveas> ms12, if you use rss, keep an eye on http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/breezy.xml to watch breezy progress
[11:19] <oceandead> bugzilla is such a pain to search through
[11:20] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: and you need at LEAST mplayer and xine
[11:20] <quitte> will xorg 7 be in breezy?
[11:20] <stizoner> u know what? ive never had a virus in my life, and i never had an antivirus product
[11:20] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: between those two you should be able to play just about anything
[11:20] <Seveas> ms12, tests are always welcomed, install the colony 3 on it and send a test report to ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: good for you.. although you may have had worms and not known it..
[11:20] <ms12> ok Thanx seveas
[11:20] <nophix> stizoner: so how do you know you haven't virus? :D
[11:21] <Seveas> nophix, ignorance is bliss :)
[11:21] <theD3viL> Seveas, your right
[11:21] <stizoner> stand alone scanner
[11:21] <nophix> Seveas: :)
[11:21] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: ain't that the truth
[11:21] <stizoner> i got nod32 scanner on one my pcs scans the rest
[11:21] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: anywho, do you have mplayer and xine?
[11:21] <stizoner> doesnt kaffine use mplayer?
[11:21] <stizoner> something like that
[11:22] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: no
[11:22] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: apt-get install mplayer
[11:22] <deFrysk> sudo
[11:22] <oceandead> w32codecs vlc mplayer
[11:22] <DukGalNamu> and xine
[11:22] <oceandead> ive been able to watch everything ive tried
[11:22] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install totem-xine too
[11:23] <DukGalNamu> dont get totem
[11:23] <oceandead> yeah totem-xine as well
[11:23] <DukGalNamu> i hate totem
[11:23] <DukGalNamu> crashes like a mother
[11:23] <oceandead> i cant stand xine
[11:23] <Seveas> never happened here
[11:23] <oceandead> :P
[11:23] <nophix> i like totem
[11:23] <nophix> simple player
[11:23] <evader> gxine is sexy
[11:23] <DukGalNamu> ugly UI too
[11:23] <oceandead> hahaha
[11:23] <deFrysk> gxine is nice yeah
[11:23] <freewoody> How do I clear my bash shell history ?
[11:23] <deFrysk> anything starting with a g is nice
[11:24] <Seveas> rm ~/.bash_history
[11:24] <DukGalNamu> along with vlc, you can tell vlc COULD have a better UI, but it doesn't
[11:24] <DukGalNamu> deFrysk: ohh, i see, you like gnome then>
[11:24] <DukGalNamu> ?
[11:24] <oceandead> eh, big deal
[11:24] <deFrysk> DukGalNamu, how did you gueass ? l;p
[11:24] <DukGalNamu> deFrysk: hehe, i hate the gnome bloat...
[11:25] <deFrysk> lol DukGalNamu
[11:26] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: does ubuntu ever consider shipping out with some stock colors that are less...... brown?
[11:26] <stizoner> i dont see mplayer in the repositorys, i got the win32 codecs installed and kaffine uses the xine engine excuse me
[11:26] <crimsun> stizoner: mplayer-$arch is in multiverse
[11:26] <Seveas> DukGalNamu, ask the style team :)
[11:26] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: it should be in the same repo where you got the w32codecs
[11:27] <Crissy> hi, i'm "still" (read hours) trying to understand how to install gplflash, downloaded into /home/mima/FireFox Plugins and FireFox downloaded into /home/mima/My Downloads/Apps this can't be this hard to do!
[11:27] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: great, i don't deal with graphic artists, they are to high strung o_0
[11:27] <ilba7r> DukGalNamu i think brown is authentic though i normally change it
[11:27] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: i think
[11:27] <jtan325> Crissy, is that the flash plugin?
[11:28] <stizoner> nope, i got them all enabled, backports n everything, searched title and description: mplayer
[11:28] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: i just keot thinking that my comp shat itself everytime i looked at my screen
[11:28] <Crissy> jtan, no, but I have that too in the same directory
[11:28] <stizoner> i think i may want to install the official ati driver at some point whenever i can figure it out, that may have something 2 do with it maybe
[11:28] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: then add a repo from a search at apt-get.org
[11:28] <ilba7r> lol DukGalNamu then change the style :)
[11:29] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: i wasn't sure how, and gnome whas too slow
[11:29] <Crissy> either one would be fine.
[11:29] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: so i put fluxbox on instead
[11:29] <stizoner> thats ok i still got enough porn i could watch 24/7 for weeks, i just used it as an excuse 2 have windows on my machine when in fact..
[11:29] <stizoner> im afraid.. im really afraid...
[11:29] <stizoner> lol
[11:30] <stizoner> give me credit though ive been like almost a week 99.9% on kubuntu
[11:30] <ilba7r> DukGalNamu is fluxbox as fast and responsive as enlightenment and icewm
[11:30] <spola> porn is escapism
[11:30] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: if not more so
[11:30] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: compiling takes less than a minute on my system
[11:30] <crimsun> porn is extremely offtopic for #ubuntu.
[11:30] <Crissy> i'm really considering going back to madriva...
[11:30] <stizoner> good cause i dont leave the house i need 2 escape
[11:30] <TEG> i get this error when i want to open my nforce panel with the nvmixer command can any1 help me? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1467
[11:31] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: of fluxbox
[11:31] <ilba7r> DukGalNamu great might give it a try then though i do not think any thing is faster then icewm
[11:31] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: not when its a playing issue
[11:31] <jtan325> ilba7r, if you want super fast
[11:31] <jtan325> openbox
[11:31] <crimsun> DukGalNamu: it's offtopic, end of discussion.
[11:31] <jtan325> login is literally < 3 seconds
[11:32] <Seveas> if you want even faster: no WM at all...
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> crimsun: discussion ended
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: well... yeah
[11:32] <ilba7r> Sevas exactly
[11:32] <ilba7r> yet i need openoffice or at least abiword
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: but then there is the hinderance of not being able to have three terminals in one screen at one time
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> Seveas: fout
[11:32] <umboto> i tried launching mplayer and i get this error: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: you mean nano isn't good enough???
[11:32] <umboto> oh and btw i have a ati card
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> :P
[11:32] <jtan325> Seveas, what is the status of breezy
[11:33] <umboto> any ideas?
[11:33] <jtan325> i've noticed a subtle thing in the topic
[11:33] <jtan325> that "please don't use breezy yet" is gone
[11:33] <Seveas> TEG, apt-get install libqt3-mt
[11:33] <ilba7r> i review and write journal papers which is most of the time in pdf or word
[11:33] <Seveas> TEG, apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[11:33] <ilba7r> ftan will try that too
[11:33] <crimsun> jtan325: the emphasis is on "testing"
[11:34] <jtan325> lol yeah but since that message was removed
[11:34] <crimsun> currently many applications that rely on gtk are being retransitioned, so there's a bit of grief
[11:34] <jtan325> i was just wondering
[11:34] <jtan325> to cairo right?
[11:34] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: you mean there isn't a command line pdf viewer yet??
[11:34] <crimsun> jtan325: new solib thus new package name
[11:34] <spola> DukGalNamu,  pdftotext
[11:34] <derflo> bye
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> now how a bout a command line text program that can properly display word documents?
[11:35] <spola> DukGalNamu, antiword
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> damn
[11:35] <spola> >:)
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> he is good
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> :P
[11:35] <ilba7r> DukGalNamu can i edit pdf files in it too? for comments and review
[11:36] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: well, its pdf to text.. so you can give them an editted text file back...
[11:36] <Crissy> Hey guys, I may be female but i'm not dumb, and I can't believe that installing a pluging nor the upgrading of an app (firefox) is that hard. how about some help. I have read wiki's, installs from the mozilla site, soundforge etc and still no worky!!!
[11:36] <crimsun> Crissy: what are you trying to do?
[11:36] <DukGalNamu> ilba7r: but not a pdf back with editing
[11:36] <ilba7r> DukGalNamu they will never go to that thanx for your help
[11:37] <Crissy> crimsum, install firefox and flash either the defualt plugin or the gplflash
[11:37] <spola> ilba7r, i think kpdf (in kde>3.4) is what you're looking for, check it out
[11:37] <umboto> i tried launching mplayer and i get this error: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:37] <ilba7r> thanx for the information guys as usual i come here to learn from the best take care all :)
[11:37] <umboto> oh and btw i have a ati card
[11:37] <stizoner> anyone got $10,000 to loan me for startup cost for a business selling pcs with ubuntu/kubuntu installed on them? :D
[11:37] <umboto> any ideas?
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: already doing that kindof
[11:37] <ilba7r> spola for editing i use kword the only package i found that can edit pdf in crude way
[11:37] <Crissy> my firefox is v1.02 and want to upgrade to the more recent. apt-get -u update has not worked
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: why the hell do you need 10k?
[11:38] <umboto> Crissy,  just use the ubuntu update manager
[11:38] <crimsun> Crissy: are you using Warty?
[11:38] <stizoner> barter get it down to $5000
[11:38] <umboto> it should work
[11:38] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: i can build a system with ubuntu on it for like 275...
[11:38] <stizoner> need a site thats like $1000 right there
[11:39] <Seveas> stizoner, please stop the off-topic rambling...
[11:39] <stizoner> yeah i can build em for under $100
[11:39] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: but i am local only
[11:39] <stizoner> i mean $200*
[11:39] <Crissy> update manager ignores it, has not worked yet. I'm on amd64-k8
[11:39] <stizoner> doh
[11:39] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: who is you supplier?
[11:39] <crimsun> Crissy: lsb_release -a
[11:39] <crimsun> Crissy: paste in #flood
[11:39] <stizoner> the web, lol
[11:40] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: what type of syste you talking about?
[11:40] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: a p3??
[11:40] <Crissy> hoary 5.04
[11:40] <x[x] > heeeeeeeeey
[11:40] <Seveas> Crissy, have hoary-security and hoary-updates enabled then
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> its the fonz
[11:41] <x[x] > i got the ubuntu error 19 error
[11:41] <Seveas> Crissy: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:41] <stizoner> i have sorta a business (i dont really make a living off it, still live with folks) but i buy parts on sale mostly, where bestbuy or compusa can buy them in such bulk they can get them lower then anyone else... then they put something on sale after rebate (give it away for free), plus just lots of online hunting for deals
[11:41] <Seveas> stizoner, last warning, stop the off-topic talking
[11:41] <stizoner> oh i missed where there was a topic
[11:41] <Crissy> seveas, how do I know they are enabled?
[11:42] <crimsun> (use #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussions)
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> stizoner: i am getting you in trouble, sorry
[11:42] <stizoner> again DukGalNamu !
[11:42] <Seveas> Crissy, if the are uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list they are enabled :)
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> hehe
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> well its late, i must go
[11:42] <spola> pdf editing: http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/06/0612209&tid=49&tid=47
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> gnight Seveas
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> gnight all
[11:44] <umboto> okay i think i solved my problem on my own
[11:44] <umboto> im uninstalling xorg server
[11:44] <umboto> and installing xserver free86
[11:44] <Seveas> bad idea...
[11:44] <umboto> and installing the ati drivers
[11:44] <Seveas> VERY bad idea even...
[11:44] <umboto> ?
[11:45] <umboto> hmm
[11:45] <umboto> maybe i should undo..
[11:45] <umboto> before i reboot
[11:45] <umboto> lol
[11:46] <umboto> i tried launchmplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:47] <umboto> so i thought maybe i should install xserver free86
[11:47] <umboto> and install the opengl drivers i see on snypatic
[11:47] <umboto> well the os die on me?
[11:47] <umboto> will ubuntu die on me*
[11:48] <wickedpuppy> eh ... how you know missing libgl is the x.org prob ?
[11:48] <umboto> i dunno, i tried looking on the fourms and on google, and the only people that have that problem are people with nvidia cards
[11:48] <umboto> since i have a ati card
[11:49] <umboto> i was figuring x.org didn't have support for opengl accel, yet
[11:49] <umboto> well for amd64
[11:49] <umboto> ubuntu
[11:49] <umboto> on ati cards
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> i am sorry ... isn't that the graphics card issue ??
[11:50] <umboto> i dunno, i think its a more of a driver issue
[11:50] <umboto> it can't find a certain file
[11:50] <wickedpuppy> have you tried finding it on synaptic ?
[11:50] <umboto> yea
[11:50] <umboto> i found some ati drivers
[11:51] <umboto> but it said it required free86
[11:51] <umboto> so thats why i installed it
[11:51] <umboto> and removed x.org
[11:51] <wickedpuppy> oh ok
[11:51] <wickedpuppy> now i know why you did it
[11:52] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:52] <umboto> whats gonna happen
[11:52] <umboto> i dont want a bsod
[11:52] <umboto> when i reboot
[11:52] <umboto> :-(
[11:52] <wickedpuppy> never seen 1
[11:52] <Seveas> xfree is no longer supported
[11:52] <Seveas> xorg is the future
[11:52] <wickedpuppy> yup
[11:52] <umboto> doh
[11:52] <Seveas> adn you should not use installers from ati.com
[11:52] <wickedpuppy> most distros switched to x.org
[11:52] <umboto> crap
[11:52] <Seveas> use the drivers provided by ubuntu
[11:53] <umboto> i did use an installer from ati
[11:53] <Seveas> :|
[11:53] <umboto> oh man
[11:53] <umboto> maybe thats why
[11:53] <umboto> :-/
[11:53] <umboto> well gotta reformat again..... :-(
[11:53] <wickedpuppy> umboto, did you ask for help about this problem here before removing x.org ?
[11:53] <umboto> actually yes
[11:53] <umboto> i asked a question 3 times
[11:54] <umboto> before i took my own actions
[11:54] <umboto> i guess no one knew what i was talking about
[11:54] <Seveas> you should not have to reformat
[11:54] <umboto> its okay though
[11:54] <umboto> i don't?
[11:54] <Seveas> just remove xfree and reinstall xorg + linux-YOUR_ARCH
[11:54] <umboto> i see
[11:54] <umboto> how about removing the ati driver i installed?
[11:55] <Seveas> (that is: linux-686 for intel, linux-k7 for amd, linux-ppc for mac linux-k8 for amd64)
[11:55] <Seveas> apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[11:55] <Seveas> that should overwrite any damage done by the ati installer
[11:55] <umboto> sweet
[11:55] <umboto> thanks Seveas
[11:57] <filip_> how can i setup and ftp server easy in ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[11:57] <evader> install proftpd
[11:58] <umboto> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#ftpserver
[11:58] <filip_> Ok
[11:58] <thoreauputic> filip_: or pure ftpd & pureadmin if you want a GUI admin interface
[11:58] <umboto> :-)
[11:58] <filip_> GUI what is that meen?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> graphical user interface
[11:59] <umboto> GUI=windows
[11:59] <umboto> instead of console
[11:59] <filip_> okey, then i whant an GUI program.
[11:59] <x[x] > hmm
[12:00] <x[x] > im gettin the error 18 error with the grub loader
[12:00] <thoreauputic> filip_: then install pure-ftpd and pureadmin
[12:00] <umboto> brb
[12:00] <thoreauputic> Filbert: to start the interface type pureadmin
[12:00] <filip_> thoreauputic: i on my way :=)
[12:00] <HappyFool> grub error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[12:01] <redarrow> 'lo all
[12:01] <x[x] > shit
[12:01] <x[x] > argh
[12:01] <x[x] > ill be back about 40 mins
[12:02] <x[x] > i'd love some help though
[12:02] <x[x] > brb
[12:02] <filip_> thoreauputic: is easy to setup an ftp server in pure-ftpd ?
[12:02] <theD3viL-> Where is alsa? /dev/what?
[12:03] <HappyFool> x[x] : give us more details -- like, have you just installed ubuntu, etc.
[12:03] <thoreauputic> filip_: it just runs by default - the graphical interface starts when you type "sudo pureadmin"
[12:03] <HappyFool> alsa provides several devices, i believe; e.g., /dev/dsp
[12:03] <thoreauputic> filip_: make sure you install both packages if you want that
[12:04] <filip_> io have install both package and run pureadmin hoc can i connect to my server now?
[12:04] <thoreauputic> filip_: be aware that ftp is pretty insecure - you'll want to read about securing it too
[12:05] <redarrow> this might sound kinda dum.. but how do I install ubuntu onto hdd from the "live cd" ??
[12:05] <HappyFool> you can't; that's why there's a separate install CD
[12:05] <redarrow> oh?
[12:06] <filip_> when i close pureadmin, can i connect to my server then ?
[12:06] <redarrow> great
[12:06] <TEG> How do i open port 6881 in linux? its open in my router but azureus keeps giving these errors..
[12:06] <thoreauputic> filip_: pureadmin has nothing to do with that - it's just a pretty front end for administering the server
[12:07] <thoreauputic> filip_: if the server is running you can sonnect anyway
[12:07] <HappyFool> TEG: by default all ports (>1024) should be openable by users; what error si it (don't paste more than 2 lines here)
[12:07] <thoreauputic> *connect
[12:08] <TEG> when i test port 6881, it always gives an error
[12:08] <TEG> in azuerus
[12:08] <HappyFool> what is the error?
[12:08] <filip_> how to get i running ?
[12:08] <TEG> Testing port 6881 ... NAT Error
[12:08] <thoreauputic> filip_: as I said, it runs by default
[12:08] <redarrow> so .. uh .. it's positivley impossible then?? I cant copy the kernel image onto hdd as well as all the data files?
[12:09] <filip_> so now it running? how can i connect to it then? my ip?
[12:09] <TEG> HappyFool?
[12:09] <thoreauputic> filip_: use an ftp client as you normally do....
[12:09] <HappyFool> redarrow: it's not designed to be installed from; maybe you can hack it, but I have no idea how. Probably more trouble than it's worth
[12:10] <filip_> yes but what is the adress?
[12:10] <Crissy> seveas, i'm updating now, after adding the repositories, the updater found 62 packages to update.
[12:10] <HappyFool> TEG: hmm. sorry, not sure. I don't think that's a firewall-type issue
[12:10] <thoreauputic> filip_: are you sure you want an ftp server? Sounds like you aren't sure what you are doing  here...
[12:10] <redarrow> HappyFool: *oh well* - I wonder why they don't put the install disk on those "toasters"
[12:10] <filip_> yes i am sure, i had an ftp-server in windows.
[12:11] <HappyFool> redarrow: i thought they did (not that i've used one). Which one did you use?
[12:11] <thoreauputic> filip_: then you should know how to connect, surely ?
[12:11] <redarrow> HappyFool: Port Elizabeth.. It's only got the live CD
[12:12] <HappyFool> redarrow: oh, i see you're right. that is very silly
[12:12] <filip_> yes whit my ip but htat dont work, in windows i just type my ip in firefox but now it dont work
[12:12] <HappyFool> heh. so they have install cd's for mandriva, fedora, debian and freebsd but not ubuntu!
[12:12] <redarrow> yep
[12:13] <thoreauputic> filip_: try using an ftp client - say gftp
[12:13] <filip_> okey.
[12:13] <HappyFool> redarrow: there aren't even any requests for it here: http://www.freedomtoaster.org/?q=node/29
[12:14] <HappyFool> redarrow: oh, hang on. if i look at this page: http://www.freedomtoaster.org/?q=node/29   the implication is that the hoary CD is there
[12:14] <filip_> in host should i type my ip nummber there?
[12:15] <HappyFool> redarrow: "Ubuntu Warty, Hoary and Hoary Live CD" -- i read that as everything but Warty Live CD
[12:16] <thoreauputic> filip_: yes that should work - for port select 21
[12:16] <filip_> okey, now i get it work
[12:16] <thoreauputic> filip_: are you testing on your local network?
[12:16] <filip_> yes
[12:16] <thoreauputic> so it's working now, right ?
[12:16] <redarrow> happyFool: I just have "Hoary Live" .. maybe I missed the other one's somehow? but I certainly don't remember seeing them.
[12:16] <filip_> no
[12:17] <filip_> i need to make users
[12:18] <filip_> how can i do?
[12:18] <HappyFool> redarrow: i've never used one, as i said, so i don't know. my suspicion is that you did miss something. Not having the install CD would be a very odd, given who is funding the toaster.
[12:18] <thoreauputic> filip_: well, read the man page, visit the website, find out how to do what you need
[12:18] <thoreauputic> filip_: we can't run your server for you, really
[12:18] <Lever> How do I install Azureus? I can't find it using apt. I have binary universe and multiverse enabled...
[12:18] <filip_> no you cant but does you know ho to make users?
[12:19] <redarrow> HappyFool: Yea I guess...  I'll go have another look as soon as I get the chance
[12:19] <HappyFool> !azureus
[12:19] <ubotu> azureus is, like, a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[12:19] <HappyFool> redarrow: i'm waiting for breezy to be released to try it
[12:19] <HappyFool> redarrow: fairly easy to use? general impressions?
[12:20] <redarrow> HappyFool: Oh yes, something like an ATM, just poke, poke, insert cd, and zip!
[12:20] <ubuntuNeedHelp> have problems getting firefox work with Ubuntu LIve CD, any tips?
[12:21] <HappyFool> redarrow: cool. i'm tempted to go just to try it out ;)
[12:22] <bz0b> hey yall
[12:22] <redarrow> HappyFool: Actually that's probably why I iniatially went ;)
[12:22] <Lever> Ok so I need the hoary-extras repository.. What's the sources.list line?
[12:22] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[12:22] <ubotu> I heard hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:23] <bz0b> is it possible to remove packages after the install?
[12:23] <Lever> I see, thanks
[12:23] <bz0b> with like synaptic
[12:23] <HappyFool> bz0b: yip
[12:23] <spiral> bz0b: look for the package and remove it with synaptic
[12:23] <ubuntuNeedHelp> Should Internet work out-of-box with Live CD?
[12:23] <topyli> ubuntuNeedHelp: it should
[12:23] <Crissy> Anyone know how to backup the installed packages in case of problem, or doing the complete install better?
[12:23] <HappyFool> bz0b: in synaptic, right click the package, and 'Mark for removal' or 'mark for complete removal'
[12:24] <HappyFool> ubuntuNeedHelp: probably depends on hardware etc, but i think that's the idea
[12:24] <PurpleMotion> Would it be possible to get the source to ubotu? I love the way he operates, and I would really like a bot for this new channel I just made.. I'd like to see it grow
[12:25] <ubuntuNeedHelp> ok.. I couldnt get out on internet first at all, then I set a name and domain on the machine and relogged in
[12:25] <ubuntuNeedHelp> and i got this IRC working. and for a veryt short time i managed to reach google
[12:25] <topyli> PurpleMotion: i guess ubotu is just another bot grabbed from freshmeat, there are dozens of them
[12:26] <PurpleMotion> !ubotu source
[12:26] <ubotu> Not a clue, PurpleMotion
[12:26] <kemik> ubotu extras is deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[12:26] <ubotu> ...but extras is already something else...
[12:26] <kemik> !extras
[12:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:26] <PurpleMotion> !ubotu-ource
[12:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, PurpleMotion
[12:26] <PurpleMotion> !ubotu-source
[12:26] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:26] <HappyFool> PurpleMotion: there's something called 'eggdrop' in universe
[12:26] <PurpleMotion> blah
[12:26] <PurpleMotion> yeah i dont want an eggdrop bot
[12:26] <topyli> !ubotu
[12:26] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:26] <PurpleMotion> I want a bot just like ubotu
[12:26] <PurpleMotion> i love the way he works
[12:27] <HappyFool> you're never the most coherent poster, you arrogant bit-bucket
[12:27] <PurpleMotion> sometimes he's more coherent than me :D
[12:27] <raven3x7> hi
[12:27] <PurpleMotion> !start a distro war
[12:27] <ubotu> kubuntu rules over mandriva
[12:27] <kemik> ubotu could be an eggdrop
[12:27] <ubotu> kemik: What?
[12:27] <kemik> just som tcl script added
[12:27] <PurpleMotion> !start a WM war
[12:27] <ubotu> fluxbox decimates fvwm
[12:27] <raven3x7> anyone know how to clean up the apt cache?
[12:27] <PurpleMotion> I don't think ubotu is an eggdrop, but if he is, it's the script that I want ;)
[12:28] <HappyFool> raven3x7: how about 'apt-get clean' ?
[12:28] <PurpleMotion> or apt-get update
[12:28] <PurpleMotion> that should set the apt-cache straight
[12:28] <topyli> hm, the web page doesn't mention the type of the bot
[12:28] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: I think ubotu is a blootbot
[12:28] <PurpleMotion> thoreauputic:  how would i find out?
[12:28] <PurpleMotion> !version
[12:28] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, PurpleMotion
[12:28] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, what kind of bot are you?
[12:28] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: what are you talking about?
[12:29] <kemik> thoreauputic:  because of his ident? =)
[12:29] <thoreauputic> PurpleMotion: don't know - but he's like tha dpkg bot on #debian
[12:29] <raven3x7> HappyFool, by clean i meant to delete the stored packets
[12:29] <filip_> thoreauputic: you sad that pureftpd runs by default but i oureadmin i see that pureftpd don run ?
[12:29] <filip_> dont run
[12:29] <HappyFool> raven3x7: stored packages?
[12:29] <thoreauputic> filip_:  sudo pureadmin
[12:29] <HappyFool> raven3x7: check the man page for apt-get; afaict, that's what clean does
[12:29] <filip_> okey
[12:30] <thoreauputic> filip_: you need admin rights
[12:30] <raven3x7> heh
[12:30] <raven3x7> o:
[12:30] <filip_> still dont run
[12:30] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  "The slowest and most bloated bot in the world" heheehe
[12:31] <topyli> what's that? eggdrop?
[12:31] <kemik> topyli:  blootbot, from www.blootbot.org
[12:31] <topyli> ah
[12:31] <kemik> topyli:  erh. blootbot.sourgeforge.net ;)
[12:31] <filip_> thoreauputic: you know how to start the server ?
[12:31] <kemik> filip_:  ever tried consulting the web or man-pages?
[12:32] <topyli> kemik: thanks
[12:32] <kemik> filip_:  you'll never truly *learn* if you're just spoonfed
[12:32] <HappyFool> dammit, emacs keeps crashing
[12:32] <kemik> HappyFool:  gvim ;>
[12:32] <dfeed> hmmm... this may be a little off-topic, but anyone have any idea why a website I'm trying to look at is scanning strange ports and timing out because my firewall won't tell it they're closed?
[12:32] <PurpleMotion> why do people insist on recommending variations of vi
[12:33] <PurpleMotion> there are SO many better editors now
[12:33] <thoreauputic> filip_: it's running if you installed pure-ftpd - but try  sudo /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd restart
[12:33] <HappyFool> dfeed: eek. sounds a bit intrusive
[12:33] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  because Vi is simply "teh best"
[12:33] <topyli> kemik: apparently it's also the worst documented :)
[12:33] <jimcooncat> dfeed, stay out of those places, man!
[12:33] <PurpleMotion> not
[12:33] <filip_> kemik: yes but now thoreauputic sad that it will run by default and it dont and i cant get it work and i think he know how to do.
[12:33] <PurpleMotion> i hate vi
[12:33] <kemik> topyli:  yes :)
[12:33] <filip_> thanx
[12:33] <topyli> !ed
[12:33] <ubotu> ed is the standard editor! ed, man! man ed!
[12:33] <dfeed> HappyFool: it's weird. it's not even a remotely dodgy site...
[12:34] <thoreauputic> filip_: it *does* run by default - you should be able to connect to it
[12:34] <dfeed> HappyFool: it's long running webcomic sluggy.com
[12:34] <PurpleMotion> a text editor should be easy to use..t here shouldn't be 30+ :whatever commands you have to memorize in order to be able to change one line of a file
[12:34] <kemik> oh christ. hardly got out of ed
[12:34] <PurpleMotion> sure vi is easy once you learn it
[12:34] <dfeed> scanning in the range of 1317-1322
[12:34] <topyli> PurpleMotion: there really is only a few
[12:34] <PurpleMotion> but my point is a text editor should have _no_ learning curve
[12:34] <kemik> :i :wq!
[12:34] <kemik> all you need for the basics
[12:35] <topyli> kemik: just i actually :)
[12:35] <filip_> okej, i will try now if it work
[12:35] <kemik> topyli:  mmh true :)
[12:35] <PurpleMotion> why not just move my cursor where i want to edit text, check the state of 'insert' and go for it
[12:35] <jimcooncat> PurpleMotion, I've tried and I don't get vi very well.
[12:35] <PurpleMotion> jimcooncat:  it's really not bad.. there's a tutorial even
[12:35] <kemik> PurpleMotion: that's why you use gvim :)
[12:35] <PurpleMotion> try the command: tutorial
[12:35] <PurpleMotion> i think
[12:36] <kemik> vitutor or vimtutor is great for learning vi/vim
[12:36] <PurpleMotion> or vi-tutorial
[12:36] <jimcooncat> ty
[12:36] <topyli> kemik: ah, they have docs in the cvs
[12:36] <PurpleMotion> there ya go
[12:36] <thoreauputic> filip_: note that you are running a private ftpd - it will need a password
[12:36] <PurpleMotion> but i still maintain you shouldnt have to do all that to edit a text file
[12:36] <PurpleMotion> heh
[12:36] <HappyFool> filip_: why do you want to run an ftp server anyway
[12:36] <thoreauputic> filip_: your user password in fact
[12:37] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  there are of course other editors "more easy to use"
[12:37] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: I'm shuddering at the thought of someone running an ftp server and asking these kinds of questions...
[12:37] <PurpleMotion> I LOVE pico (actually its nano now isnt it), but I only use the VERY basic features... im sure if i had to learn any more commands than i know, i'd feel a level of disdain towards it :D
[12:37] <kemik> but coding in gvim is totally ok
[12:37] <filip_> HappyFool: what you think? share my file whit some frineds.
[12:37] <kemik> pico doesnt respect linebreaks etc correctly
[12:37] <HrdwrBoB> er
[12:37] <PurpleMotion> kemik:  yeah, i know.. my point is people defend vi/m RELIGIOUSLY, and I think it's silly
[12:37] <HrdwrBoB> pico doesn't have any advanced features
[12:37] <topyli> PurpleMotion: have you gotten syntax highlighting to work with nano?
[12:38] <PurpleMotion> thats what i mean
[12:38] <kemik> pico is like notepad.. good for some real easy tasks
[12:38] <PurpleMotion> i havent tried
[12:38] <filip_> thoreauputic: but when i try to make users i need to made an file but that dont work.
[12:38] <PurpleMotion> pico is my CLI text editor
[12:38] <PurpleMotion> all i do with it is edit simple text files
[12:38] <PurpleMotion> youw ant syntax highlighting for everything under the sun, get eclipse
[12:38] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  i used to use pico aswell.. but had to learn a more powerful editor, so i choose vim
[12:38] <PurpleMotion> THAT is a really pimpin IDE
[12:38] <kemik> eclipse is nice yeah
[12:39] <kemik> used it for java development
[12:39] <PurpleMotion> kemik:  it's a TEXT EDITOR (this is my whole point)?!?!? what do you need by way of 'more power'? lol, i just fail to see it
[12:39] <kemik> but the schoolcomputers usually hang when using eclipse, and it's a bit sluggish
[12:39] <topyli> PurpleMotion: i really do want syntax highlighting for config files and shell scripts too. that's what we edit every day isn't it?
[12:39] <PurpleMotion> i didnt know such highlighting existed
[12:39] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  see topyli
[12:40] <thoreauputic> filip_: I'm sorry - I think you need to do some research before running a server: I suggest you read the web page for pure-ftpd and the man page, and maybe search tldp.org
[12:40] <kemik> there's highlighting for everything... almost ;)
[12:40] <filip_> okey i will
[12:40] <PurpleMotion> topyli:  now that you mention it, bash, sh, csh, tcsh, and ksh syntax highlighting would be REALLY nice in nano.. I will look into it.. if it's possible, trust me ill figure out how to do it
[12:40] <PurpleMotion> vi has syntax highlighting?
[12:40] <PurpleMotion> heheh
[12:40] <filip_> but i can said that it was much eays in windows to run an ftp-server
[12:41] <kemik> vim has
[12:41] <topyli> PurpleMotion: vim does, vi doesn't
[12:41] <jimcooncat> filip_, if you're just doing it for friends and not the public, why not go with ssh?
[12:41] <kemik> Vi isnt very good imo :)
[12:41] <kemik> ViM otoh
[12:41] <HappyFool> can you still get vi?
[12:41] <PurpleMotion> yaknow, vi was the only section of the LPIC-1 exam I felt like I was actually going to have to _study_ (thank god i read the rest though, lots of useful information)
[12:41] <filip_> jimcooncat: i dont now what that is.
[12:41] <newbie> greetings, iam trying to setup my connection using pppoeconf in which i gave my isp's user and pwd - i gave my dns address in resolve.cong but i find it different in the log . please check the log here http://pastebin.com/342158
[12:41] <kemik> PurpleMotion:  http://hem.passagen.se/wking/vimrc.txt  <-- save as ~/.vimrc  and you'll have alot of nice features
[12:41] <Angrod> how do i convert a .rpm to a .deb ?
[12:42] <HappyFool> !alien
[12:42] <ubotu> well, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[12:42] <PurpleMotion> Angrod:  alien
[12:42] <topyli> HappyFool: nvi is supposed to be very faithful to the original bsd vi
[12:42] <DarkRaika> can someone help me with my monitor?
[12:42] <topyli> HappyFool: was default in woody. ewww.
[12:42] <newbie> can someone help me with my broadband connection ?
[12:42] <PurpleMotion> Angrod:  install alien (if its not), download the rpm, type: alien file.rpm :: the next part is IMPORTANT. you want to TEST it before you install it for real, so type: dpkg -i --no-act package.deb
[12:43] <PurpleMotion> if all goes well, type: dpkg -i package.deb
[12:43] <PurpleMotion> you should do that with ANY deb file you download manually or create :)
[12:43] <Grat> ellow guys
[12:43] <spola> what's good food to eat to get rid of a hangover?
[12:43] <PurpleMotion> allo Grat
[12:43] <jimcooncat> filip_: openssh is worth the research. Putty is a good way to start getting used to it. WinSCP is a great tool for windoze users.
[12:43] <PurpleMotion> brb, all
[12:43] <DarkRaika> I have a problem with my monitor
[12:43] <DarkRaika> can someone help?
[12:43] <HappyFool> newbie: why did you put your ip in resolv.conf?
[12:43] <PurpleMotion> spola:  drink three tall glasses of water and take ACETAMINOPHAN(SP?) (tylenol)
[12:43] <filip_> okey
[12:44] <HappyFool> DarkRaika: be more specific
[12:44] <DarkRaika> ok
[12:44] <spola> :)
[12:44] <PurpleMotion> you have a hangover because your body slept in a state of severe dehydration
[12:44] <DarkRaika> I just bought a Dell Trinitron 21" monitor
[12:44] <topyli> spola: in my experience, gin works well
[12:44] <PurpleMotion> yeah a little hair of the dog works too ;)
[12:45] <newbie> HappyFool: thats my dns address .
[12:45] <spola> it's too early to start drinkin
[12:45] <DarkRaika> and it has a faint horizontal line running accross the page
[12:45] <Grat> spola: you should have drank as much watter as you could before you went to bed
[12:45] <DarkRaika> 1/3 from the top of the screen
[12:45] <DarkRaika> and 1/3 from the bottom up
[12:45] <topyli> PurpleMotion: hair of the dog's arse. gin comes in BOTTLES man!
[12:45] <DarkRaika> is this normal?
[12:45] <kemik> DarkRaika:  yes
[12:45] <sly> too early?
[12:45] <sly> i been drinkingsince 8am
[12:45] <kemik> DarkRaika:  that normal for trinitron monitors
[12:46] <DarkRaika> ok
[12:46] <Angrod> how can i change my root password?
[12:46] <newbie> HappyFool : the address i have in resolve.conf is my dns not my ip address
[12:46] <kemik> !root
[12:46] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:46] <DarkRaika> kool
[12:46] <topyli> Angrod: you have one?
[12:46] <DarkRaika> one more question about it
[12:46] <spola> Grat, i wish i did ... but i passed out (lets get back OT tho)
[12:47] <newbie> Angrod : sudo  yourusername  and type ur pwd
[12:47] <DarkRaika> I got it running at 60Hz at the moment
[12:47] <newbie> someone can help me with pppoeconf?
[12:47] <HappyFool> newbie: the entries in resolv.conf should be 'nameserver 61.1.96.69' and 'nameserver 61.1.96.71', as far as i know
[12:47] <DarkRaika> the guy I bought it from said it is suppose to run at, at least 85Hz
[12:47] <DarkRaika> if this is so
[12:47] <ocool> hello all
[12:47] <DarkRaika> how fast can I run the monitor at
[12:47] <newbie> HappyFool : yes. man i shld have known it.. did that once in redhat. thanks
[12:47] <ocool> can you help me? I search a german ubuntu channel
[12:47] <DarkRaika> cause if I run it too fast, will it blow up my monitor
[12:48] <kemik> DarkRaika:  no it probably wont blow up...
[12:48] <topyli> DarkRaika: probably not. it will display a text "out of range" or similar
[12:48] <newbie> HappyFool : how can we be sure that the node is connected to isp ?
[12:48] <HappyFool> newbie: i thought the dialup/ifup scripts would do that automatically for you, though
[12:48] <Pogopuschel-> ocool: #ubuntu-de
[12:48] <DarkRaika> thx kemik, topyli
[12:48] <topyli> DarkRaika: find the monitor's specs from the manufacturer's website so you can config your X precisely
[12:49] <newbie> HappyFool: the  dns ip u are seein in the log isnt the right one. we have only one dns server
[12:49] <HappyFool> newbie: i'm not sure; try 'ping' i, guess (e.g., ping the nameserver)
[12:49] <ocool> @Pogopuschel- thx
[12:49] <newbie>  nope, ping isnt helpin .  ping gives timeout ..
[12:49] <HappyFool> do you know the IP addr of your nameserver?
[12:50] <newbie> i do  and thats the ip i have in resolve.conf .. without nameserver
[12:50] <newbie> i guess nameserver is a must in resolve.conf
[12:50] <HappyFool> make it 'nameserver    1.2.3.4'   (replace 1.2.3.4 with ip addr)
[12:50] <newbie> yeah
[12:50] <newbie> let me give it a shot. thanks
[12:51] <HappyFool> anyway, you should be able to ping that ip addr, regardless
[12:51] <newbie> i can ping the ip address i assigned to the lan card and also  loop back add which is strange
[12:51] <HappyFool> also, maybe check your routing -- i don't know what line 15 means
[12:51] <newbie> i have only one lan card . i assigned ip while installin ubuntu
[12:53] <linux_ubuntu> hi
[12:53] <kemik> newbie:  can you ping anything except your own NIC and loopback?
[12:53] <Pogopuschel-> newbie: Do a "traceroute x.x.x.x"
[12:54] <Pogopuschel-> pick some andom address
[12:54] <newbie> kemik : no
[12:54] <morbidi> traceroute 255.255.255.255
[12:54] <morbidi> :D
[12:54] <Pogopuschel-> :))
[12:54] <newbie> Pogopuschel-:  traceroute isnt workin
[12:54] <kemik> newbie:  try "arp"
[12:54] <Angrod> hmm, i tried to install Java to Firefox... but the file got saved as a .bin file... what to do? :x
[12:54] <newbie> kemik : sorry , whats arp?
[12:54] <HappyFool> !java
[12:54] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:54] <Pogopuschel-> newbie: What's not workin? What do you get?
[12:54] <HappyFool> Angrod: read that page for instructions on installing java
[12:54] <kemik> newbie:  it'll tell you if your network device is connected to anything else
[12:55] <topyli> Angrod: there are deb packages apt-gettable for ubuntu
[12:55] <kemik> Pogopuschel-:  dont think traceroute is installed by default
[12:55] <Pogopuschel-> kemik: should be..
[12:55] <kemik> it wasnt here :)
[12:55] <HappyFool> try 'tracepath' instead
[12:55] <kemik> i installed it yesterday
[12:55] <Pogopuschel-> oh :)
[12:55] <kemik> newbie:  does "arp" give you anything?
[12:56] <newbie> kemik : iam on windows now :)
[12:56] <kemik> newbie:  ah.. i c
[12:56] <kemik> newbie:  dualboot ?
[12:56] <newbie> i shld reboot and check it out  .. will do that in a min
[12:56] <newbie> kemik : yes
[12:56] <Angrod> oki, thanks HappyFool :D
[12:56] <jblu> can someone tell me the app. or GUI for MusicBrainz?
[12:57] <kemik> newbie:  just copy-paste networksettings from windows to ubuntu then ;)
[12:57] <newbie> i wish :p
[12:57] <Pogopuschel-> so, what's your nameserver on windows?
[12:57] <Pogopuschel-> just copy it :)
[12:58] <kemik> newbie:  open a command-window ("dos-mode") and type "ipconfig"
[12:58] <newbie> Pogopuschel- : i did and i fimrly belive that  because i dont have nameserver before that ip iam unable t goonline
[12:58] <kemik> newbie:  a nameserver isnt required to surf
[12:58] <tomaj> is there a way to have the computer start up by itself and log in and start a program?
[12:58] <kemik> newbie:  all it does is resovle names to IP#..
[12:59] <newbie> newbie : it is required to resolves?
[12:59] <newbie> yeah
[12:59] <tomaj> newbie has attitude lol
[12:59] <Pogopuschel-> tomaj: What do you want excatly? Do you want to power on a computer from remote?
[12:59] <kemik> newbie:  66.249.93.99  <- that's google.. see if you can surf there from ubuntu
[12:59] <tomaj> pogopuschel: no from a time
[01:00] <tomaj> timer*
[01:00] <newbie> tomaj : dude, i aint newbie to computers man .. iam new to linux so i know what the stuff they are talkin about
[01:00] <kemik> newbie:  if that doesnt work then it's not your nameserver but something else
[01:00] <newbie> kemik : k thanks
[01:00] <kemik> newbie:  and do type "ipconfig" and write down that stuff
[01:00] <newbie> aight brb .. thanks a lot guys.
[01:00] <tomaj> newbie: i realised that
[01:00] <newbie> k kemik. thanks
[01:00] <Pogopuschel-> kemik: He can't ping anythingso he can't surf either :)
[01:00] <kemik> Pogopuschel-:  then it's not his nameserver
[01:01] <Pogopuschel-> tomaj: Your BIOS gives you some options to power on by a specific time
[01:01] <kemik> but if he was trying to ping www.google.com then he wouldnt be able to if it's the nameserver
[01:01] <Pogopuschel-> kemik: Yea, but i thought he didn't know what his nameserver is :)
[01:01] <tomaj> ok so you have to do it through bios
[01:01] <tomaj> ?
[01:02] <Pogopuschel-> yes
[01:02] <tomaj> k thanx :) and i assume you have to change the ubuntu settings to autologin for that as well
[01:02] <tomaj> pog what if my bios doesnt have any such options is there another way to start the computer from a timer?
[01:03] <stizoner> theres some sorta bug after i upgraded to the smp kernel for my p4 i can login as admin in control center in kubuntu
[01:03] <Pogopuschel-> don't know, But you can start your pc from remote via wake on lan
[01:03] <stizoner> cant*
[01:03] <Pogopuschel-> so if you have another pc, you can set a time, to power on via wake on lan
[01:03] <Pogopuschel-> +r
[01:03] <pirast> you coult try app -> run -> gksudo kcontrol
[01:03] <tomaj> hmm i do but its winxp
[01:03] <HappyFool> or just leave the computer on and setup a cron job
[01:04] <Pogopuschel-> tomaj: No problem for win xp :)
[01:04] <tomaj> how do you use winxp to wake another pc up?
[01:04] <tomaj> happyfool computer makes noise and i want to be asleep before it starts up
[01:04] <Pogopuschel-> there are some wake on lan clients out there, just google for "wol.exe"
[01:04] <tomaj> thanx pop
[01:04] <tomaj> pirast was that directed at me?
[01:04] <Pogopuschel-> however, you have to set up wake on lan on your ubuntu machine
[01:05] <tomaj> yeah thats in the bios isnt it?
[01:05] <Pogopuschel-> I spend 6 hours to get it working on my debian pc
[01:05] <Pogopuschel-> :/
[01:05] <pirast> No, it was to stizoner
[01:05] <tomaj> pirast: k
[01:05] <tomaj> shit
[01:05] <Pogopuschel-> tomaj: I thought so too..
[01:05] <Pogopuschel-> maybe it works for you
[01:05] <tomaj> so you have to change linux settings too?
[01:05] <Pogopuschel-> without any configuration
[01:05] <Pogopuschel-> depends on what you are using
[01:05] <tomaj> what did you have to do?
[01:05] <Pogopuschel-> apm, acpi
[01:06] <tomaj> acpi is standard for ubuntu isnt it?
[01:06] <Pogopuschel-> I hav to disable acpi in the bios, enable APM and boot the kernel with "apm=on, apm=poweroff"
[01:06] <pirast> I think so, yes
[01:06] <stizoner> this is getting frustrating, there is no way to login as root and make changes except via consol, so you have to know the commands for everything!
[01:06] <Pogopuschel-> depends on your nic
[01:07] <tomaj> thats weird, i would have thought acpi would have supported it better
[01:07] <Pogopuschel-> just try to install ethtool
[01:07] <jimcooncat> Using hoary, I played with kubuntu for a while then removed it. How can I get my gnome menus back in order?
[01:07] <Pogopuschel-> "apt-get ethtool"
[01:07] <Pogopuschel-> "apt-get install ethtool"
[01:07] <Pogopuschel-> and do "ethtool eth0"
[01:07] <tomaj> stizoner there is a way to allow yourself to log in as root
[01:07] <tomaj> google it
[01:07] <tomaj> it has to do with x afaik
[01:07] <Simian> sorry if this is a dumb question but I have just edited my repos source list to breezy and then did dist-upgrade. But when I goto start>system>About Ubuntu it still says 5.04
[01:07] <Simian> have i done something wrong?
[01:07] <topyli> stizoner: you should be able to do stuff via the gui tools. otherwise, you can launch any gui app from the terminal using sudo
[01:08] <Pogopuschel-> you can enable wake on lan settings with "ethtool -s eth0 wol g"
[01:08] <stizoner> yes i read the instructions, if i log out i cant log back in as root, and it only gives me root via consol
[01:08] <Pogopuschel-> but ethtool didn't support my NIC
[01:08] <Pogopuschel-> maybe it works for you
[01:08] <HappyFool> Simian: maybe they didn't update that bit ;). what does 'uname -r' say? i think breezy users a newer kernel (2.6.16 ?)
[01:08] <topyli> stizoner: surely you can use sudo in an X terminal
[01:08] <tomaj> stizoner, the instructions should allow you to log in as root, that's the point of the instructions
[01:08] <hmrocha> Simian, i guess they have not updated that doc yet
[01:08] <HappyFool> err.
[01:08] <HappyFool> 2.6.12, that is
[01:08] <Simian> oh ok
[01:09] <stizoner> they dont, i cant select logout from kmenu and login as root
[01:09] <Simian> yes it 2.6.12
[01:09] <hmrocha> Simian, do a "cat /etc/issue"
[01:09] <stizoner> i cant boot my pc and login as root
[01:09] <tomaj> ill try it pog thanx
[01:09] <hmrocha> Simian, it should say "breezy badger"
[01:09] <tomaj> well stizoner you were reading different instructions from the ones im referring to then
[01:09] <topyli> stizoner: you mean login as root into X? it's not very smart
[01:09] <Simian> http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle
[01:10] <stizoner> i dont care if its smart or not, no way im learning all these commands
[01:10] <Simian> i guess it worked then
[01:10] <Simian> thanks guys
[01:10] <thoreauputic> stizoner: running KDE or gnome or any X environment as root is deprecated
[01:10] <stizoner> just 2 download a file to a folder i want, or delete something or this or that...
[01:10] <hmrocha> Simian, was it a smooth upgrade?
[01:10] <topyli> stizoner: very well then
[01:10] <jp> can i update hoary to breeze using apt?
[01:10] <tomaj> stizoner, what exactly is it you are trying to do?
[01:10] <hmrocha> Simian, after the upgrade everything worked?
[01:10] <Simian> yes very smooth
[01:10] <topyli> stizoner: so now you're going to surf the web as root too?
[01:10] <hmrocha> Simian, ok, thanks
[01:10] <stizoner> like the 20th thing ive had 2 ask that required root password
[01:10] <HappyFool> jp: it sounds like simian just did, so i guess the answer is yes. note that breezy is still unstable
[01:11] <stizoner> right now just trying 2 load an xchat script
[01:11] <stizoner> cant even save it to the folder
[01:11] <topyli> Simian: lyx didn
[01:11] <topyli> 't
[01:11] <tomaj> stizoner, try saving it to your home folder instead and run it from there
[01:11] <stizoner> i dont have permission, my OS knows better then me
[01:11] <topyli> Simian: so the system is utterly broken ;-)
[01:11] <stizoner> run what? it has 2 go into the xchat plugin folder
[01:12] <tomaj> oh of course
[01:12] <HappyFool> can't you put it in ~/.xchat somewhere?
[01:12] <crashd> save it to your home folder, then 'sudo cp source destination'
[01:12] <crashd> or
[01:12] <crashd> as HappyFool says, put it in your local xchat
[01:12] <stizoner> no im not gonna sudo this that anymore
[01:12] <stizoner> lol
[01:12] <HappyFool> ~/.xchat2
[01:12] <Simian> topyli what do you mean?
[01:12] <thoreauputic> stizoner: maybe *nix isn't for you....
[01:12] <tomaj> stizoner, basically you dont have permissions so you dont destroy your system because its not idiotproof like windows and ubuntu is designed for everyone
[01:13] <topyli> Simian: just joking. lyx was broken, so the system has utterly failed me :)
[01:13] <tomaj> people that know what they are doing dont have problems and people that dont usually learn quickly
[01:13] <stizoner> its the only linux distro out of like 30+ ive tried that cant login as root
[01:13] <Simian> oh ok lol
[01:13] <stizoner> im not an idiot and ill make the descions
[01:13] <tomaj> its because ubuntu is designed for everyone
[01:13] <stizoner> its my pc
[01:13] <topyli> stizoner: since you're not an idiot, you can surely find out how to enable root logins
[01:13] <pirast> I just installed beagle on Breezy. How can I open it?
[01:13] <Pogopuschel-> "sudo passwd asdf"
[01:14] <jimcooncat> or just "sudo sh" for a root shell?
[01:14] <tomaj> Pogopuschel-: i typed that command in root terminal and i didnt get any errors, does that mean it works?
[01:14] <topyli> pirast: run the daemon, do searches with best
[01:14] <thoreauputic> stizoner: or since you're not an idiot you won't log in to X as root... whatever
[01:14] <sJaM> sudo -i
[01:14] <pirast> k. thx
[01:14] <Pogopuschel-> tomaj: what command?
[01:14] <tomaj> ethtool -s eth0 wol g
[01:14] <stizoner> so i can logout a few secs later after im done the changes
[01:14] <stizoner> no different then any other distro or windows
[01:15] <Pogopuschel-> yea, try "ethtool eth0"
[01:15] <Pogopuschel-> what does it say?
[01:15] <linux_ubuntu> can anyone help regarding firefox browser?
[01:15] <tomaj> stizoner google it, its easy as changing one option in a config file
[01:15] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: ask a specific question
[01:15] <topyli> stizoner: no distro setup by me allows root logins, much less graphical ones
[01:15] <Fanskapet> linux_ubuntu look at the topic, " Have a question? Just ask! "
[01:15] <stizoner> i did google it and all i got was 100's of people complaining that they couldnt login as root
[01:15] <tomaj> Pogopuschel-: nothing i got no outup, that usually means it works right?
[01:15] <stizoner> eh smal world
[01:15] <topyli> stizoner: that's true of mandrake and debian at least
[01:15] <tomaj> stizoner dont google for ubuntu
[01:15] <tomaj> google for xorg
[01:16] <Pogopuschel-> no, "ethtool eth0" should show you wol capabilities
[01:16] <linux_ubuntu> my browser not working, dialup is ok
[01:16] <Fanskapet> stizoner why would you want to login as root?
[01:16] <ompaulAFK> !tell stizoner about sudo
[01:16] <Pogopuschel-> and "ethtool -s eth0 wol g" sould enable wol
[01:16] <stizoner> so i can make changes without using commands that i dont know
[01:16] <Fanskapet> stizoner just use "sudo -s"
[01:16] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: how is it not working? Can you describe the problem more
[01:16] <Fanskapet> in bash
[01:16] <sJaM> no Fanskapet `sudo -i` is better
[01:16] <Fanskapet> ah well sudo -s suits me well atleast.
[01:16] <Adross> anyone know anything about the whole 'linux being trademarked' issue?
[01:17] <stizoner> no, im sick of sudo this and so that, if just want to save a file to a folder then i shouldnt have to pull up konsol and type crap in
[01:17] <sJaM> sudo -s is only a permanet sudo, and sudo -i gives an acutal root shell
[01:17] <Adross> cos this makes me madder then when those velocor raptors kidnapped santa
[01:17] <tomaj> Pogopuschel-: want a paste of the output?
[01:17] <pirast> yes, i know something
[01:17] <pirast> wait a second
[01:17] <linux_ubuntu> dialup connects fine but browser is not recognizing the connection. so no browsing
[01:17] <ompaulAFK> stizoner, then maybe ubuntu is not for you
[01:17] <sJaM> Applications -> System -> Root Terminal
[01:17] <tomaj> stizoner just one sec ill find the info for you
[01:17] <Fanskapet> stizoner there is a root terminal you know
[01:17] <Fanskapet> :)
[01:17] <sJaM> Applications -> System Tools -> Root Terminal
[01:17] <Adross> stizoner: you can make a launcher to run the file manager(nautilus) as root
[01:18] <tomaj> stizoner: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/01/msg00848.html
[01:18] <stizoner> im in kubuntu
[01:18] <Fanskapet> yeah. ubuntu is really built to be secure and easy
[01:18] <tomaj> took me less then 2 seconds
[01:18] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: try closing the browser and reopening it?
[01:18] <Pogopuschel-> tomaj: it should have worked if there was no error by "ethtool -s eth0 wol g"
[01:18] <pirast> Adross: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050816092029989
[01:18] <topyli> but he wants to use system commands he doesn't know anything about, so a terminal won't do :)
[01:18] <Fanskapet> if you want to be root all the time you should probably be using gentoo or something.
[01:18] <stizoner> thank you tomaj
[01:18] <tomaj> stizoni that's gnome
[01:18] <tomaj> let me find kde
[01:18] <ompaulAFK> stizoner, ask that one in #kubuntu
[01:18] <Pogopuschel-> but "ethtool eth0" should give you something about wol then
[01:18] <stizoner> like a desert in there
[01:18] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: how have you tested your dialup (i.e., how do you know it's working?)
[01:18] <Adross> stizoner: whats the problem?
[01:19] <tomaj> Pogopuschel-: ok ill test it later, thanx for your help buddy
[01:19] <linux_ubuntu> i did the dmesg command following pon
[01:19] <Pogopuschel-> np :)
[01:19] <linux_ubuntu> ip's assigned correctly
[01:19] <topyli> heh
[01:20] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: ok; is DNS resolution working? (e.g., what does 'dig www.google.com' return?)
[01:20] <Adross> pirast: thanks, it makes sense now
[01:20] <tomaj> stizoner: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t351833.html
[01:20] <Adross> i shall rebuild my Torvalds shrine
[01:20] <tomaj> stizoner: that's an explination for kde
[01:20] <linux_ubuntu> should i chech dynamic DNS?or ?
[01:21] <stizoner> haha, thanks dude but theres one problem
[01:21] <Adross> stizoner: you sure you want to run as root?
[01:21] <Adross> i mean seriously, we can talk about this
[01:21] <Adross> it doesn't have to go down this way
[01:21] <cyphase> Ubuntu: 1. "Humanity to others." 2. "I am who I am because of who we all are." 3. "The future of Linux."
[01:21] <cyphase> :)
[01:21] <stizoner> i cant get that 2 work, ive tried that, every since i upgraded to smp kernel i cant do that, login there doesnt work
[01:21] <tomaj> ok hold i found another
[01:21] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: i'm not following 'dynamics dns' -- i would guess standard dns should be able to resolve www.google.com
[01:22] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: just run  'dig www.google.com' in a terminal
[01:22] <tomaj> stizoner: (If you prefer to allow root logins to KDE, you can edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc as root and set AllowRootLogin= to "true".
[01:22] <Adross> stizoner: maybe its a sign?
[01:22] <tomaj> stizoner: i assume you are profficient enough to do that by yourself yes?
[01:23] <linux_ubuntu> thanks happyfool
[01:23] <Crissy> hi, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1468 I would like to make windows boot defualt, and remove the defualt kernal from grub list, any suggestions?
[01:23] <stizoner> im not going 2 stay logged in as root! its just when i want 2 make a change, just like in every other distro and windows
[01:23] <stizoner> yes thank you tomaj
[01:23] <stizoner> :D
[01:23] <linux_ubuntu> anyway what DNS settings should be during dial up connection creation
[01:23] <tomaj> stizoner: no problem, thank you for using #ubuntu :P j/k
[01:23] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: the namservers are entered into /etc/resolv.conf
[01:23] <tomaj> crissy ill help you just one sec
[01:24] <Crissy> okay
[01:24] <HappyFool> linux_ubuntu: that should be done by your dialup script (mine worked automatically)
[01:24] <pirast> Crissy: For setting windows boot default edit the file  and set default from 0 to 10
[01:24] <ompaulAFK> !seen thoreauputic
[01:24] <ubotu> thoreauputic is currently on #kubuntu (1h 31m 39s) #ubuntu (1h 31m 39s)
[01:24] <ompaulAFK> !ping thoreauputic
[01:24] <ubotu> No idea, ompaulAFK
[01:24] <ompaulAFK> ohh :)
[01:24] <thoreauputic> ompaulAFK: I'm not here ;)
[01:25] <ompaulAFK> thoreauputic, okay :)
[01:25] <HappyFool> who said that?
[01:25] <thoreauputic> heheh
[01:25] <ompaul> doh
[01:25] <tomaj> crissy do what pirast said then test it out
[01:25] <tomaj> im off
[01:25] <tomaj> night everyoen
[01:25] <cyphase> 'night
[01:25] <Crissy> thanks will do
[01:27] <reiki> looking for someone good with Spamassassin to help me figure out why .... even though it's DETECTING the spam... it's not tagging the header or rewriting teh subject line. (I'm using Evolution with spamassassin as a filter)
[01:27] <x[x] > HappyFool
[01:27] <HappyFool> hello?
[01:27] <x[x] > lol
[01:28] <pirast> I have breezy, gnome panel ofter crashes since I upgraded some packages. Does anybody have the same problem?
[01:28] <x[x] > what were u saying about error 18?
[01:28] <pirast> I also reported it in the gnome bugtracker i hope..
[01:28] <HappyFool> oh right. that's from the grub docs
[01:28] <HappyFool> 18 : Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[01:28] <ompaul> thoreauputic, or to put it another way http://www.lyricsdomain.com/2/ben_harper/excuse_me_mister.html :-) that could be the other definition
[01:28] <ompaul> ahh no /msg
[01:28] <x[x] > well
[01:29] <x[x] > i just switched hard drives cuz i think i installed her on a faulty HD ( was faulty for ages )
[01:29] <stizoner> yay!! i was able 2 login as root
[01:29] <x[x] > so ima try her one more time
[01:30] <topyli> stizoner: congratulations, you are now the uber admin
[01:30] <stizoner> in a week i may be confident enough 2 delete and format my ntfs to ext3
[01:30] <stizoner> :P
[01:31] <HappyFool> x[x] : ok. i haven't had this error, and my /boot is somewhere after 80GB on my drive
[01:31] <topyli> stizoner: you are still doing it a bit strangely, but whatever. not many want to make that mistake :)
[01:31] <HappyFool> x[x] : i would guess this is only a problem for older motherboards, but i'm not sure
[01:32] <x[x] > well
[01:32] <x[x] > i donno man i installed ubuntu before on that pc with no problems
[01:32] <topyli> stizoner: so, now when you're configuring your box, you'll be also surfing for information as root, downloading files as root and ircing as root too?
[01:33] <HappyFool> x[x] : hmm, odd. do you have windows or another OS on that machine?
[01:33] <stizoner> its not strange i dont think, its how every other distro and windows does it, you want to make a change you login quick as root and logout, yes i understand the huge mistake it is with windows and how everyone is just logged in as admin/root, but if somebody is smart enough 2 just install ubuntu i think there smart enough 2 know the importance of not staying loged in as root, plus for the simplest of things i need 2 know commands us
[01:33] <stizoner> ing that sudo wich was driving me nuts
[01:33] <reiki> I have a suspicion that since evolution is reportedly using spamassassin now.... could it be stripping the tags from the headers as it processes its junk filter? hmmmmmm
[01:33] <x[x] > happyfool i DID
[01:33] <stizoner> sorry 4 the small book
[01:33] <x[x] > i took it off
[01:34] <x[x] > ( when i took out the HD )
[01:34] <HappyFool> x[x] : hmm. if you let ubuntu have the whole drive, it should Just Work
[01:34] <ompaul> stizoner, what were those commands you feel you need to use as root?
[01:34] <x[x] > yeah i did this time
[01:34] <x[x] > so hopefully it will work now
[01:35] <Ds136> Hey everyone, I got a question, I just installed a wireless USB device, but whenever i reboot with it still connected the boot freezes up. any one have any ideas? I also have a wireless network card installed also, I was thinking maybe there is some conflict between the two, but I'm not really sure.
[01:35] <topyli> stizoner: sounds awfully complicated, logging out and in and out again
[01:35] <reiki> x[x] : I installed a 160GB drive, gave Ubuntu the whole thing... and it installed fine. :)
[01:36] <spola> sup x[x] 
[01:37] <thoreauputic> stizoner: funny, i can't identify with your problem - I just learnt about linux and now I can do stuff in seconds without all the rigmarole you are going through... but each to his own I guess
[01:37] <reiki> and I'm sorry, but #spamassassin is dead dead dead even with all those names in it... no response for 2 days. ... sheeesh... :)
[01:37] <gabriel> hi every one
[01:37] <Spear> hi there !
[01:37] <stizoner> thoreauputic, you magically just knew all commands? you were born that way?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> stizoner: did you read what I said?
[01:38] <reiki> I still type /sudo blah blah sometimes... I don't know where that's comin from :)
[01:38] <gabriel> how should hibernation work? when i press hibernation it doesn't work like xp on my laptop. the sistem goes to the logon screen and prompts for password. i enter it and comes back to desktop. very strange!
[01:39] <topyli> stizoner: i guess he learned them. or we told them on this here irc channel
[01:40] <stizoner> being able 2 save a file or delete it without knowing a command is not expecting 2 much
[01:40] <topyli> reiki: i a while you'll be ircing like "sh /whois topyli" :)
[01:40] <myo> i dont hear sound , when i open xmms and another players. but i hear the login sound
[01:40] <myo> how to config ?
[01:40] <reiki> topyli: I think I've done that too... heheh
[01:41] <noodle> is there any way i can speed up gnome'''''s remote deskkkkkktop?
[01:41] <thoreauputic> topyli: you know you're in trouble when you try to tab complete the TV remote ;)
[01:41] <gabriel> nobady uses hibernation?
[01:41] <topyli> hah
[01:42] <ompaul> thoreauputic, you what, take a break :)
[01:42] <topyli> thoreauputic: what is a "tv remote"? is it a vnc-type shell? :)
[01:42] <no_gatez_fan> trying to install with ultra ata-133 raid controler in the box....it gets to "deteting hardware to find dr rom or rives" screen, it goes up to 82% and stopps, any suggestions?
[01:42] <HappyFool> myo: in xmms, right click on the window somewhere, choose options -> preferences, and change the 'Output plugin' to eSound
[01:42] <no_gatez_fan> cd rom
[01:43] <thoreauputic> topyli: it has this *really* limited keyboard....
[01:44] <spola> myo, did you add support for mp3s? do .ogg files work? if not go to the ubuntuguide
[01:44] <reiki> y'know... working on this spamassassin filter for Evolution.... you'd think there'd be more GOOD information out there. Finding the filter was easy. Finding support for SpamAssassin is the hard part. I think it's important for Ubuntu (linux in general) to have a SIMPLE spam catcher. There are tons of them for Windoze machines. Simple as in... easy to install and configure for a desktop user.
[01:44] <topyli> thoreauputic: oh no! sounds like an MS appliance! even my phone has a full keyboard and a 80x25 screen :)
[01:44] <TraceGreen> Hello, when i tried to compile c program in Debian linux, i get this error : undefined reference to `errno', can anybody help me
[01:44] <Seveas> TraceGreen, your C program is buggy
[01:44] <tomaj> quick questions, does cron use the time showed in gnome or the bios time? how would you go about using cron to end azuerus and then shut down?
[01:45] <HappyFool> TraceGreen: try '#include <errno.h>'  -- and maybe ask on #c ;)
[01:45] <Seveas> did you write it yourself?
[01:45] <thoreauputic> topyli: yeah, I can't even get tah interweb to work on it! WTF!
[01:45] <TraceGreen> Seveas, no.
[01:45] <TraceGreen> Actually, i try to reinstall libc6, before i do that, i can compile it sucessfully
[01:45] <tomaj> fint namn fanskapet
[01:45] <amichai> any of u guys have problems with ubuntu freezing?
[01:46] <tomaj> amichai: nope
[01:46] <Fanskapet> tomaj yez :)
[01:46] <reiki> Seveas: I have gotten a default spamassassin install working as a filter in evolution to detect spam. It's a bit slow (almost 7 seconds per email to process)
[01:46] <topyli> thoreauputic: i think we have one somewhere here. i seem to recall it was good for some limited uses like watching video streams
[01:46] <tomaj> quick questions, does cron use the time showed in gnome or the bios time? how would you go about using cron to end azuerus and then shut down?
[01:46] <thoreauputic> ;)
[01:47] <tomaj> sigh, im going to have to trial and error arent i
[01:47] <penguin_roar> amichai: i have problems with nautilus freezing up regularly but i run a tainted kernel with nvidia
[01:47] <tomaj> night ppl
[01:47] <amichai> how can i find out why my ubuntu freezes? i get this weird gray patterns and it freezes or it freezes while watching a mv
[01:47] <amichai> movie
[01:47] <ompaul> TraceGreen, if you find that  'grep -rs ?extern int errno? *' gives an answer from the stuff you put on your machine or in the source it needs conventions to be updated
[01:47] <topyli> reiki: yes it is. i don't know if you can set it up to use spamc so you can run spamd continuously. that would speed it up
[01:47] <no_gatez_fan> i guess i will let it chew on the cd for a while
[01:48] <x[x] > Hamlesh
[01:48] <penguin_roar> amichai: its probably your graphics driver that freeze, what card and driver are you using
[01:48] <x[x] > err
[01:48] <x[x] > HappyFool it looks like everything is sorted
[01:48] <topyli> reiki: i just filter the mail before i load it into evolution
[01:48] <x[x] > its gotten past that error
[01:48] <HappyFool> x[x] : good stuff
[01:48] <x[x] > lots o stuff is loading
[01:48] <spola> ugh
[01:48] <x[x] > hah spola?
[01:48] <x[x] > what u doin here?
[01:48] <amichai> penguin_roar, ati and fglrx
[01:48] <spola> this is my second home dude! :p
[01:48] <spola> nah i needed some help with this stupid error but noone knew :/
[01:48] <x[x] > freenode or this chan?
[01:49] <reiki> topyli: actually I've found that using spamc with spamd really didn't speed it up at all. I've tried both ways. And once you call spamassassin it starts spamd (5 child processes) so you can use spamc and try it both ways
[01:49] <penguin_roar> amichai: is that the free driver or is it from ATI?
[01:49] <spola> just here
[01:49] <dbernar1> all hail the mighty Ubuntu!
[01:49] <dbernar1> ;)
[01:49] <topyli> reiki: i blame evolution. just filter the mail at delivery time (fetchmail, procmail)
[01:50] <reiki> topyli: how are you filtering? using fetchmail/procmail setup?  I'm really trying to get this down to a VERY simple process for non-technical people.
[01:50] <topyli> heh ^
[01:50] <reiki> ok... answered while asking
[01:50] <spola> so you decided to give ubuntu another go huh? that's my fourth convert!
[01:50] <Crissy> Hi, see http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1469 I need help editing the grub menu by removing the generic kernals in the list how/what do I do?
[01:50] <reiki> topyli: how well does a fetchmail/procmail solution work on a single user desktop machine that isn't running 24.7 ?
[01:50] <TraceGreen> ompaulAFK, thx, i think i fix it.
[01:51] <TraceGreen> i must add erron.h
[01:51] <Fanskapet> agh stupied mySQL still fighting to compile it on ubuntu :)
[01:51] <topyli> reiki: it works perfectly :)
[01:51] <amichai> penguin_roar, umm. the linux prop. from ati.com
[01:51] <Fanskapet> or well get it to work afterwards :)
[01:51] <topyli> reiki: although i have two clients here
[01:52] <topyli> reiki: fetchmail simply gets the mail in the morning once you boot
[01:52] <Crissy> Thanks for the prior help making grub boot windoz by defualt :/
[01:52] <HappyFool> Crissy: well, one way might be to uninstall the related linux-image packages
[01:53] <HappyFool> Crissy: i also see a 'howmany=all' parameter (line 103) which you could play with
[01:53] <reiki> topyli: and is fetchmail set to ... uh... well... fetch mail every 10 minutes or so?  And what happens if a user is online, already, someone sends them an email, and they want to check if it's in... right now?
[01:53] <pablo_> eyyy
[01:53] <pablo_> i need help
[01:53] <penguin_roar> amichai: try the free driver and see if you get rid of the freezes, then file a bug to ati
[01:53] <HappyFool> Crissy: maybe you could see what 'howmany=1' does. Why is it important to prune the grub menu anyway?
[01:53] <Crissy> Okay, if I don't need them can I do Apps - Add remove ?
[01:54] <amichai> penguin_roar, u mean the one from apt?
[01:54] <topyli> reiki: a mortal user can't do it. the superuser can run /etc/init.d/fetchmail awaken
[01:54] <Crissy> I'm actually setting up this system for a real non user, and don't want grub to be confusing.
[01:54] <HappyFool> Crissy: i'd use synaptic for this (under 'Advanced' in Applications->System Tools->Add remove programs, or System->Admin->Synaptic)
[01:54] <topyli> reiki: (actually i'm not sure if there's a client program for fetchmail to do the same)
[01:55] <penguin_roar> amichai: i think its included in xfree so you shouldnt have to d/l anything
[01:55] <HappyFool> Crissy: look for the 'linux-image' packages, and remove the appropriate ones
[01:55] <Crissy> Happy, will check
[01:55] <HappyFool> Crissy: i don't have an amd64, so i'm not sure what the precise package names will be
[01:55] <reiki> topyli: that's a nice solution for you and me, but .... I'm aiming for *simple*.   So far spamassassin is working... if a little slowly... I just need to see why it's ignoring whitelist_from directives and NOT rewriting teh subject line as instructed
[01:55] <amichai> penguin_roar, i have xorg
[01:56] <reiki> topyli: couldn't you just create a launcher that runs that same fetchmail awaken thing as sudo?
[01:56] <topyli> probably
[01:57] <topyli> reiki: in /etc/sudoers, you could give perhaps the "users" group permission to run the command without password
[01:57] <reiki> topyli:  sorry for so many questions, but do you have a feel for how long it's taking to process each incoming email using fetchmail/procmail with spamassassin?
[01:58] <mogg_> hi, I am using ubuntu on an older pc, and whenI scroll in a listbox, the refreshing of it look really ugly
[01:59] <mogg_> on kde / windows its smooth, any idea how I can fix this ?
[01:59] <Crissy> Happy, under "base system restricted" I see "linux amd64 generic 2.6.10.7" also "restricted modules" with same version
[01:59] <barongas> I have an usb mp3-player I'm about to connect, as far as I I've understood it it's just plug and go in ubuntu? Something I should be doing?
[01:59] <Crissy> Also listed are the ones for the K8 which I want to keep
[02:00] <topyli> reiki: dunno, but in the morning when you have lots of mail it does take some time
[02:00] <tomaj> i give up, someone please help me with cron
[02:00] <topyli> reiki: spamd/spamc works better i think this way than through evolution (which starts a zillion processes)
[02:00] <rephorm> tomaj: sure, what's the problem?
[02:01] <Crissy> tomaj, i'll help you :/  (i wish)  just kidding
[02:01] <tomaj> rephorm: i cant seem to get azuerus running
[02:01] <tomaj> crissy, one day ;)
[02:01] <Crissy> :)
[02:01] <reiki> topyli: maybe not much faster than what I'm seeing by running it right from Evo... hmmm.... I'll keep slogging away at this. I think it's important :) ... and right now I'm using a spamc filter in Evo rther than calling spamassassin. It works but only at a very marginal improvement in speed
[02:01] <rephorm> tomaj: azureus uses cron?
[02:02] <tomaj> i dont know, i asked how to start a program based on timer and people said to use cron
[02:02] <ApellA> hi everyone
[02:02] <topyli> reiki: yeah well, it's hard to observe the daemon's speed by eyeball, and it doesn't interfere with my daily chores, so...
[02:02] <tomaj> rephorm: can you not start azureus using cron?
[02:02] <reiki> topyli:  so... so it works! :)  that's what really matters.
[02:02] <jimcooncat> what's the easiest way to set up spamassassin for my office? Amavisd looks too complicated. Can't I just pipe incoming email?
[02:03] <topyli> reiki: and if it works poorly, i don't notice =)
[02:03] <reiki> hehehe... ok
[02:03] <tomaj> i put <minute from now> <this hour> * * * /usr/bin/azuerus but nothing starts
[02:03] <rephorm> tomaj: sure, you want it to run at a certain time each night?
[02:03] <tomaj> rephorm: exactly
[02:03] <tomaj> rephorm: but when i test it it doesnt start
[02:04] <rephorm> tomaj: 2 things: make sure you /etc/init.d/cron reload after editing the crontab
[02:04] <tomaj> rephorm: ok one sec let me try that
[02:05] <tomaj> rephorm: whats the second thing?
[02:05] <rephorm> tomaj: and, put your user name in the user column (just before the command), and you probably need to do somethign like "DISPLAY=0 /usr/sbin/azureus"
[02:05] <bimberi> tomaj: is that a true copy of the crontab line - because azureus is mis-spelled
[02:05] <ApellA> can anyone answer this? if i try to install the nvidia drivers (downloaded from their site) it gives me the following line: Verifying archive integrity... Error in check sums 1462614117 2000453180
[02:05] <bimberi> ?
[02:05] <ApellA> what to do about it?
[02:05] <tomaj> bimberi: no its not
[02:06] <tomaj> rephorm: i thought that was if you put it in the "global" crontab file or sth
[02:06] <bimberi> tomaj: k :)
[02:06] <tomaj> rephorm: im using crontab -e
[02:06] <rephorm> tomaj: oh, ok. :)
[02:06] <rephorm> tomaj: then add the display var
[02:06] <tomaj> where? before the /usr... ?
[02:07] <rephorm> yeah
[02:07] <rephorm> tomaj: and you don't have to reload cron with crontab -e :)
[02:07] <Crissy> Question, will grub automatically change the defualt startup drive number if you remove extra kernals from the system, or do i need to re-edit grub ?
[02:07] <tomaj> rephorm: oh ok at least that's one less step :)
[02:08] <tomaj> crissy: manually
[02:08] <Crissy> okay
[02:08] <tomaj> rephorm: it still doesnt work
[02:08] <ApellA> can anyone answer this? if i try to install the nvidia drivers (downloaded from their site) it gives me the following line: Verifying archive integrity... Error in check sums 1462614117 2000453180
[02:08] <tomaj> rephorm: wait let me try one thing
[02:08] <rephorm> tomaj: yeah. hmm. i've never run gui apps from cron before :)
[02:09] <Crissy> ApellA, you might try downloading it again, it could be just a bad download
[02:09] <ApellA> did that allready twice
[02:09] <ApellA> but ok, will try again, never know
[02:10] <Crissy> :)
[02:10] <mgcross> what version of autoimake should I use? I see 1.4 through 1.9 in synaptic...
[02:10] <tomaj> rephorm: nah didnt work, this is the exact line '10 22 * * * "DISPLAY=0 /usr/bin/azureus"'
[02:10] <Crissy> Also delete the one you have so it doesn't get mixed up
[02:10] <tomaj> rephorm: its 22:10 here
[02:10] <tomaj> ApellA why use their drivers?
[02:11] <pirast> Hi, does Ubuntu already used the run_parallel boot paramter? If not: How do I activate it?
[02:11] <Seveas> mgcross, depends
[02:11] <Seveas> they are all mutually incompatible
[02:12] <ApellA> tomaj: so i can play a game i wanted to play again
[02:12] <Seveas> but most programs compile with either
[02:12] <tomaj> ApellA why not use the ubuntu ones?
[02:12] <ApellA> it doesn't seem to work
[02:12] <mgcross> Seveas: just trying to compile vdrift....thought I already had automake installed but I guess not
[02:13] <tomaj> rephorm: any more ideas?
[02:13] <Seveas> mgcross, try automake --version in a terminal
[02:13] <mgcross> Seveas: I'm going to use checkinstall as well...
[02:13] <Seveas> good!
[02:14] <lfalvarez> hi. I have a dns running on mi machine. I can ping mail.mydomain.com. but I cant telnet mail.mydomain.com 25   Any ideas, I'm using postfix.
[02:14] <mgcross> Seveas: K, TY
[02:14] <kemik> Seveas:  any how-tos to make your own .deb ?
[02:14] <Seveas> lfalvarez, by default, the MTA installed on an Ubuntu machine does not listen to the outside
[02:14] <pirast> lfalvarez maybe postfix is configured for local mails only..
[02:14] <Seveas> kemik, apt-get install maint-guide
[02:14] <stizoner> god im such a tool sometimes, realize how 2 do something then slap yourself in the head
[02:14] <Seveas> /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/
[02:15] <mgcross> Seveas: nope, not installed....witch versoin is best for general use with checkinstall?
[02:15] <Seveas> try 1.8
[02:15] <tomaj> anyone have any ideas on how to start a gui program based on timer?
[02:15] <Seveas> 1.9 introduces some new 'features'
[02:15] <topyli> mgcross: install build-essential and take whatever it depends on :)
[02:15] <mgcross> Seveas: 1.8...do you mind if I ask why?
[02:15] <kemik> tomaj:  cron perhaps ?
[02:15] <kemik> or timer is an actual application ?
[02:15] <pirast> lfalvarez: You can change this setting:  dpkg-reconfigure  --priority=low postfix
[02:15] <Seveas> mgcross, it's the most recent relatively compatible version
[02:15] <mgcross> hmmm...build essential IS installed...strange...
[02:15] <tomaj> kemik, trying cron but it doesnt work
[02:16] <Seveas> 1.9 often means rewriting lots of .am files
[02:16] <rephorm> tomaj: i'm looking at it now, and sure enough its not working how its supposed to :)
[02:16] <tomaj> kemik: i cant seem to get it to work
[02:16] <tomaj> rephorm: ok what should i do?
[02:16] <fredric> Hi.. I'm new to the whole linux thing, and I have a sort of stupid question.. How do I play mp3's?   I get a error message that says the the plugin is missing, and XMMS just crashes when I try to use it instead of the audioplayer or Totem
[02:17] <thoreauputic>  tomaj if you want tostart something after a delay you can do  sleep 1h && <command> (delays by one hour - s for seconds, m for minutes)
[02:17] <rephorm> tomaj: just a sec. :)
[02:17] <topyli> mgcross: oh, build-essential doesn't depend on the auto* tools
[02:17] <mgcross> hmmm...build essential IS installed...strange...wouldn't it have depended on something like automake?...that's why I installed build-essentials...
[02:17] <tomaj> !mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:17] <stizoner> use amarok fredric
[02:17] <mgcross> Seveas: gottcha!
[02:17] <tomaj> thoreauputic: im going to start computer on timer and the azureus :)
[02:17] <tomaj> rephorm: sure thing
[02:17] <fredric> stizoner: thanks!
[02:18] <tomaj> stizoner ubotu was talking to you ;)
[02:18] <tomaj> shit
[02:18] <pirast> fredric: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&page=1&highlight=automate+script+users can be very helpfull, too
[02:18] <spine55> I have a problem with my computer it has a k7n2 board and locks up while in X its rock solid while command line
[02:18] <tomaj> fredric: ubotu was talking to you lol not stizoner :)
[02:19] <topyli> fredric: install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support in all gnome apps
[02:19] <spine55> just wanted to know if anyone can tell me how to troubleshoot this kind of problem
[02:19] <pirast> spine55: Do you have an ATI card?
[02:19] <spine55> pirast: yeah
[02:19] <spine55> pirast: 7200
[02:19] <sn0n> hey guys.. where would i suggest changing /etc/debian_version into /etc/ubuntu_version
[02:19] <sn0n> (and updating the version #)
[02:19] <mgcross> Seveas: configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..
[02:20] <pirast> Ok, it's a bug in Hoary I think. I already crated a bugreport: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10579
[02:20] <topyli> sn0n: it's deprecated anyway, lsb-release is the one these days :)
[02:20] <mgcross> do I need to reboot after installing automake? wouldn't have thought so...
[02:20] <sn0n> topyli, my scripts stat uses it.. ;-)
[02:20] <pirast> spine55: You can try to change ati in vesa in you /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:20] <sn0n> http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/
[02:20] <topyli> sn0n: your script is old-fashioned :)
[02:20] <sn0n> yeah
[02:20] <sn0n> last update was 1 year ago
[02:20] <sn0n> lol
[02:20] <spine55> pirast: so just change the line that has ati to vesa?
[02:20] <tomaj> sn0n try the webby and forums
[02:21] <pirast> yep
[02:21] <pirast> and restart x, spine55
[02:21] <sn0n> i was gonna fix it.. so it dont say im using debian 3.1
[02:21] <fredric> thanks all of you then ;-)
[02:21] <spine55> sweet thanks!
[02:21] <sn0n> http://sn0nsb0x.info/~rob/info/
[02:21] <sn0n> see
[02:21] <tomaj> pirast would fglrx be a better option?
[02:21] <sn0n> Distro Name	 Debian 3.1
[02:21] <pirast> I don't know if the fglrx drivers work with you card.
[02:21] <Firsti_> Hello
[02:21] <spine55> pirast: no they don't already tried that
[02:22] <pirast> k
[02:22] <Firsti_> Is there some way to play lxdoom as fullscreen ?
[02:22] <tomaj> spine55 what card are u using?
[02:22] <tomaj> just out of intrest
[02:22] <ZanTuzZ> I know i sound like a newbie now, i have downloaded ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso to my computer, then what?! do i have to burn it down on i cd like a "boot-cd" ?! please help
[02:22] <pirast> (14:19:41) spine55: pirast: yeah
[02:22] <pirast> (14:19:48) spine55: pirast: 7200
[02:22] <topyli> sn0n: webmin does the same
[02:22] <pirast> I have a Radeon 7000, same problem..
[02:23] <HappyFool> ZanTuzZ: yip, you need to burn it to CD
[02:23] <sn0n> topyli, calls ubuntu debain 3.1 ?
[02:23] <stizoner> i managed to install the official ati drivers, dont ask me how though that was many commands/hours ago, i found it in the forum though
[02:23] <Spear> hi again, i just need an advice : i' m using Ubuntu Hoary, with the old Warty Kernel. I downloaded a kernel from kernel.org, 2.6.10, and started to compile it via make-kpkg. One i restarted, i got a Kernel Panic " kernel panic ernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) " ... so, i looked for an answer, but i got an idea : i compiled using the old conf file. The old kernel has an initrd line, thing the new one
[02:23] <Spear>  doesn' t have (i didn't think about that) ... could it be that the filesystem or whatelse would be modular via initrd and, then, as i took the old conffile and didin't integrate it to the kernel, would do that it cannot be found and that i get the kernel panic error ? :D
[02:23] <topyli> sn0n: yes
[02:23] <ZanTuzZ> HappyFool: A boot-cd?
[02:23] <mgcross> Seveas: configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../.....what am I missing?
[02:23] <tomaj> Spear: problem number one is not using synaptic ;)
[02:23] <sn0n> its cuz that file... /etc/debian_version  just renaming it to /etc/ubuntu_version
[02:23] <sn0n> in breezy maybe?
[02:23] <HappyFool> ZanTuzZ: it already is a boot image, but yes, it will be a boot cd
[02:23] <sn0n> ;-)
[02:23] <HappyFool> ZanTuzZ: you shouldn't need to do anything special
[02:24] <Spear> he he, i didn't use synaptic at all :)
[02:24] <Spear> a good old debian compilation ...
[02:24] <Firsti_> How I can play lxdoom in FullScreen?
[02:24] <ZanTuzZ> HappyFool: Okay... just burn the image to the disk
[02:24] <rephorm> tomaj: ok, as a test, add a line to your crontab to do something simple, like "touch ~/testfile"
[02:24] <HappyFool> ZanTuzZ: should work
[02:24] <sn0n> what uses /etc/debian_version ?  like is there any harm in editing it  ;-)
[02:24] <rephorm> tomaj: then see if the file exists after the specified time
[02:24] <sn0n> aka : killing it and making an ubuntu_version
[02:25] <topyli> sn0n: then webmin and phpsysinfo won't find the file at all. better to fix phpsyinfo and webmin :)
[02:25] <HappyFool> Spear: why can't you use a precompiled kernel? Wouldn't that be (much?) easier?
[02:25] <thoreauputic> sn0n: why not point your script at /etc/issue ?
[02:25] <ZanTuzZ> HappyFool: thank you so much... i will trie that
[02:25] <ZanTuzZ> try*
[02:25] <tomaj> rephorm: ok testint that now
[02:25] <sn0n> topyli, how? if its using /etc/debian_version   ;-)
[02:25] <Seveas> mgcross, no idea
[02:25] <sn0n> it gets the name from the file
[02:25] <Seveas> it's somthing in the build system of that software
[02:25] <airco> question: does anyone know how to write grep -irs Desk.Admin $(find /home/www/* -name "*jsp") in a single command? (i need to use it in an environment which doesn't support bash syntax)
[02:26] <topyli> thoreauputic: /etc/issue might as well say "Welcome to topyli's b0rken Ubuntu box!" :)
[02:26] <sn0n> hehehe
[02:26] <Seveas> airco, does it support pipes?
[02:26] <topyli> sn0n: make it use /etc/lsb-release
[02:26] <tomaj> rephorm: '26 22 * * * "touch /home/tomaj/text"' didnt work
[02:26] <HappyFool> airco: you can get find to run grep
[02:26] <Seveas> HappyFool, eben better :)
[02:26] <sn0n> ahhh
[02:26] <sn0n> thnx topyli
[02:26] <sn0n> :-D
[02:26] <rephorm> tomaj: take out the quotes :)
[02:27] <tomaj> the ' or the " ?
[02:27] <rephorm> tomaj: "
[02:27] <mgcross> Seveas: hmmm...think it's actually a problem with the source I'm using...will re-download...thanks for the help :-)
[02:27] <spine55> pirast: thanks again I'm back in
[02:27] <parhitean5> bali
[02:27] <ronin> hi all
[02:27] <Seveas> airco, find /home/www -iname '*.jsp -exec grep 'whatever to grep {} .
[02:27] <parhitean5> bawel
[02:27] <Seveas> airco, find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep 'whatever to grep' {} .
[02:27] <pirast> spine55: np
[02:27] <airco> Seveas: pipes aren't an opption
[02:27] <Spear> Happyfool : i just wanted to try :D
[02:27] <airco> Seveas: k, thx, i'll try that
[02:27] <Seveas> take the latter
[02:27] <amichai> i saw there is a breezy snapshot release, how can i upgrade through apt without breaking my system? just to experience the snapshot, any ideas?
[02:27] <Seveas> the first one misses a feq quotes :)
[02:28] <Seveas> amichai, better use an install cd to upgradr
[02:28] <Seveas> upgrade*
[02:28] <Seveas> pop it in, and answer yes to the 'upgrade from this cd' popup
[02:28] <tomaj> rephorm im testing
[02:28] <x[x] > woop
[02:28] <amichai> Seveas, is the install cd safe? u tried it?
[02:28] <x[x] > ubuntu is installed
[02:28] <x[x] > and working
[02:28] <Seveas> no guarantees on not breaking :)
[02:28] <airco> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[02:28] <x[x] > thanks to all who helped and too who made this thing
[02:28] <airco> should i put it in '' ?
[02:28] <Seveas> airco, sec
[02:29] <HappyFool> you need a ';' as well for exec
[02:29] <LinuxJones> amichai, I wouldn't upgrade to Breezy quite yet
[02:29] <ronin_> sorry, laggy internet..
[02:29] <spola> congrats!
[02:29] <tomaj> rephorm: touch works
[02:29] <HappyFool> find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep 'whatever to grep' {} ;
[02:29] <HappyFool> you might also need to escape {, } and ;, depending
[02:29] <topyli> amichai: upgrade via apt also worked for me, but that doesn't mean the system is production-ready
[02:29] <Seveas> airco, find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep 'whatever to grep' {} ';'
[02:29] <Seveas> airco, find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep 'whatever to grep' '{}' ';'
[02:29] <Seveas> quotes all over the place are needed...
[02:29] <pirast> LinuxJones is right, I upgraded and there are  still some problems with dependendics etc.
[02:30] <amichai> topyli, how did u do it? cos i changed everything to breezy and then it just froze and died
[02:30] <topyli> amichai: that's what i did too. oh well, different day, different bugs
[02:30] <topyli> :)
[02:30] <ronin_> does anyone know how i can change the default-OS in GRUB and the waiting period?
[02:30] <amichai> topyli, and its working?
[02:30] <pirast> yes..
[02:31] <sn0n> topyli, i hate you.. LoL.. creating all this work for me
[02:31] <sn0n>  ;-)
[02:31] <tomaj> roning_ start root console and then type nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <pirast> ronin_ sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <airco> k, almost there, now i just need the grep to show the name of the file, and adding the usual -irs options doesn't seem to work :)
[02:31] <tomaj> or that
[02:31] <pirast> :-D
[02:31] <topyli> amichai: dunno, the box is at work, i haven't touched it after upgrade
[02:31] <sn0n> i'll just check if the file lsb-release exists, and if it does use it
[02:31] <ronin_> tomaj: pirast
[02:31] <HappyFool> airco: find should show the name if grep matches (i think)
[02:31] <ronin_> thanx,
[02:31] <airco> btw, just out of curiosity, what is the {} for?
[02:32] <airco> HappyFool: well, i'm afraid it doesn't :-/  maybe i can tweak the options of the find command, lemme have a look
[02:32] <tomaj> sudo is better to advise than root console isnt it?
[02:32] <tomaj> rephorm: ?
[02:32] <amichai> yes
[02:32] <ronin_> tomaj: i think so...
[02:32] <tomaj> rephorm: whats happening?
[02:32] <topyli> sn0n: it should exist on any distro that even remotely tries to conform to the standard
[02:32] <sn0n> gentoo
[02:32] <sn0n> dont
[02:32] <sn0n> ;-)
[02:32] <sn0n> a friend is on a gentoo box
[02:32] <sn0n> dont have it
[02:33] <tomaj> gentoo ams for the leet people
[02:33] <HappyFool> airco: stand by...
[02:33] <kameron> gentoo is for ricers.
[02:33] <sn0n> but i wanna keep the script 'distro friendly'
[02:33] <sn0n> ya kno
[02:33] <tomaj> ricers?
[02:33] <topyli> sn0n: i guess gentoo doesn't care about lsb-compliance
[02:33] <sn0n> nope
[02:33] <sn0n> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/96825
[02:33] <kameron> http://funroll-loops.org/
[02:34] <rephorm> tomaj: its not running because the DISPLAY variable isn't getting set. but i can't get it to work here. (again, never done X apps from cron). btw, it should have been "DISPLAY=:0" (with the colon)
[02:34] <kameron> i just got my ubuntu install finally working. i wrestled with the AMD64 version for a few days, and it just wasn't working out, so i'm running the x86 version on my AMD64.
[02:34] <rephorm> tomaj: but, still doesn't work
[02:35] <redlounge> hi. is there an easy way to use the 'win' key with ubuntu/gnome?
[02:35] <tomaj> rephorm: hmm, bummer, but shouldnt it run without the gui bit anyway?
[02:35] <airco> HappyFool: never mind, got it.  grep '-H' does the trick
[02:35] <sn0n> redlounge, sure, use keybindings ?
[02:35] <rephorm> tomaj: is azureus cmd line?
[02:35] <tomaj> its java?
[02:35] <kameron> redlounge: i'm sure there is with keybindings. i know that in kde it gets default set to open the menu.
[02:35] <rephorm> tomaj: but, it runs with a gui, no?
[02:35] <HappyFool> airco: hmm. find is supposed to 'match' if the command returns 0
[02:35] <tomaj> rephorm: it has a console, not sure about cmdline tho
[02:35] <PurpleMotion> off the top of your heads, does anyone know how to search for something in limewire and have an EXCLUSION (example, i would like to search for "blonde" without returning anything that contains "xxx"
[02:36] <PurpleMotion> )
[02:36] <spine55> pirast, if you can can you send me that bug report link again?
[02:36] <tomaj> rephorm: yeah does
[02:36] <kameron> tomaj: it's a rich GUI java app. but you might be able to do it on cmd line, not sure.
[02:36] <redlounge> sn0n, any hint how to do that?
[02:36] <filip_> how can i burn an .avi in ubuntu, i whant to look the movie on an dvd player.
[02:36] <ronin_> tomaj: i believe azureus is java... at least the gui..
[02:36] <sn0n> no clue.. ima user  :-D
[02:36] <pirast> yes, it is java
[02:36] <tomaj> i know its java, problem is can it be run through cron without the gui
[02:36] <PurpleMotion> azureus is great, but DONT use the download bar option, and make sure it STAYS minimized when you're not using it
[02:37] <kameron> filip_ burn it in a vcd or svcd format, make sure your standalone dvd player supports this.
[02:37] <redlounge> sn0n, i know there is system -> settings -> keyboard
[02:37] <PurpleMotion> otherwise it eats memory like a fat kid in a hershey factory
[02:37] <ronin_> tomaj: i dont know...
[02:37] <tomaj> k
[02:37] <filip_> kameron: how to do this?
[02:37] <Whitesocks> Quick question: what package contains the source for common functions like strcpy() etc?
[02:37] <LinuxJones> filip_, you need to transcode the .avi file to the mpeg2 format
[02:37] <giard> anyone having problems installing colony 3?  I'm getting stuck at 91% - Downloading file 4 of 8 (0s remaining)
[02:37] <kameron> filip_ take your pick of programs, i like k3b the best.
[02:37] <tomaj> is there another way to launch programs based on timer?
[02:37] <tomaj> does ubuntu have an autostart feature?
[02:37] <kameron> giard: try a different mirror?
[02:37] <topyli> sn0n: thinking about those tools and scripts, it's not too bad to identify ubuntu as debian. the point is to find the relevant system files in the correct places after all
[02:37] <rephorm> tomaj: ok. change the DISPLAY=0 to DISPLAY=:0 and it should work
[02:38] <filip_> LinuxJones: how can i do that?
[02:38] <LinuxJones> tomaj, yes on both accounts
[02:38] <parhitean1> hai every body what going n
[02:38] <topyli> sn0n: so the difference is just in the name in that sense
[02:38] <HappyFool> airco: ah, i have it
[02:38] <ronin_> bye all
[02:38] <pirast> cu
[02:38] <sn0n> then use that menu redlounge
[02:38] <HappyFool> find /home/www -iname '*.jsp' -exec grep -q 'whatever to grep' '{}' ';' -print
[02:38] <kameron> hi there parhitean1
[02:38] <LinuxJones> filip_, it depends on what type of .avi file you have best to search google
[02:38] <manusia> hai all
[02:38] <tomaj> rephorm: 38 22 * * * "DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/azureus" doesnt work
[02:38] <giard> kameron: that's during the install
[02:38] <manusia> can I join with you
[02:38] <rephorm> tomaj: no quotes...
[02:38] <tomaj> linuxjones: care to elaborate?
[02:38] <kameron> giard: what?
[02:38] <HappyFool> airco: i think '-print' is the default action, unless you specify one (e.g., with -exec)
[02:39] <sn0n> topyli, what ima do is just check for the file lsb-release if its not there, use the existing /etc-distro file
[02:39] <airco> HappyFool: k, thx
[02:39] <tomaj> rephorm: i tried that but ill try it again
[02:39] <manusia> hiiiiiii
[02:39] <giard> kameron: the install off the disc is almost finished... and then it gets stuck there... there wasn't a place to select a mirror
[02:39] <rephorm> tomaj: whatever you put after the last * has to be a cmd. "foobar" is just a string :)
[02:39] <manusia> mbgmh
[02:39] <topyli> sn0n: yep
[02:39] <kameron> giard: oh, i see what you mean. maybe your cd is crap? any big scratches on it?
[02:39] <tomaj> rephorm ok
[02:39] <sn0n> :-D
[02:39] <maxthon> manusia: hi
[02:39] <sn0n> but im not gonna tinker with webmin
[02:39] <sn0n> i dont use it
[02:39] <sn0n> hehe
[02:39] <pirast> Is the problem with azureus still existing?
[02:39] <tomaj> rephorm: doesnt work
[02:39] <sn0n> only this stats script
[02:39] <sn0n> lol
[02:40] <redlounge> sn0n, ok i got it :)
[02:40] <giard> kameron: I guess I was just asking to see if anyone else has had problems installing colony 3
[02:40] <stizoner> azurues works better/faster on this then does windows
[02:40] <kameron> giard: yeah, i haven't installed it. just trying to give you some basic info here. sorry.
[02:41] <rephorm> tomaj: switch to a console (ctrl-alt-f1 e.g.) and make sure that DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/azureus runs
[02:41] <LinuxJones> filip_, there is at or cron command for time based execution you can start apps when you launch Ubuntu in System >> preferences >> Sessions >> Startup Programs
[02:41] <topyli> sn0n: i'm happy with webmin thinking this box is debian, as long as ubuntu and debian are similar enough
[02:41] <sn0n> hehehe
[02:41] <manusia> lkjb;zkodhfb ignzoig
[02:41] <manusia> ewgkxocivhae lktj ac
[02:41] <manusia> bozdkglkwjpna dufjw
[02:41] <sn0n> i just want it to show a kewl ubuntu icon (which i'll have to make and add)
[02:41] <sn0n> hehehe
[02:41] <manusia> jpst zbjz jgjdkjfg
[02:41] <manusia> dokgjdg
[02:41] <manusia> gjdgojr tdofjbotrh
[02:41] <manusia> gkjdojojejgdg
[02:41] <manusia> dfgkdog
[02:41] <manusia> dfgk
[02:41] <topyli> sn0n: so that the tools work
[02:41] <manusia> fgkfkkg;djgita
[02:41] <sn0n> no.. everything works
[02:41] <kameron> manusia don't flood please.
[02:41] <sn0n> i just want it to say ubuntu
[02:41] <sn0n> hehehe
[02:41] <topyli> manusia: ooh, you can rot13! how 1337
[02:41] <sn0n> and since it looks like its abandoned
[02:41] <sn0n> i'll take up and help it out
[02:41] <stizoner> maybe its his language
[02:42] <tomaj> rephorm: it loads but throws an error
[02:42] <manusia> I"m sorry guys ..
[02:42] <sn0n> update it to use the lsb-release files and other stuff
[02:42] <topyli> yeah right
[02:42] <sn0n> know what i mean ?
[02:42] <kameron> is anyone running AMD64 ubuntu 5.04?
[02:42] <giard> has anyone installed colony 3 yet?
[02:42] <tomaj> that could be because x is running on tty7 couldnt it?
[02:42] <sn0n> alot of people i know use the script
[02:42] <manusia> some1 want talk to me please
[02:42] <tomaj> rephorm: that could be because x is running on tty7 couldnt it?
[02:42] <jkossen> kameron: yup
[02:42] <topyli> sn0n: your plan sounds ok
[02:42] <sn0n> may as well start helping out the poor abandoned thing.. hehe
[02:42] <Grat> manusia what do you want to talk?
[02:43] <rephorm> tomaj: setting the DISPLAY var tells it which X to launch on
[02:43] <kameron> jkhossen, do you mind if i pm you?
[02:43] <tomaj> ok well in that case it doesnt work, maybe the x is wrong?
[02:43] <barongas> I'm trying to find tips where to start troubleshooting on why my mp3-player wont pop up as /dev/sda1. Any ideas?
[02:43] <tomaj> i mean the display bit
[02:43] <jkossen> kameron: not if it's not interesting for the rest of the channel
[02:43] <manusia> anything gues
[02:43] <HappyFool> barongas: take a look at the output of dmesg
[02:43] <HappyFool> barongas: maybe do 'dmesg|tail -f' in a console window, and unplug and plug it in
[02:44] <manusia> Grat anyone here from indonesia ?? I wanna talk with indonesia guy here
[02:44] <kameron> jkossen: the channel is just kind of busy is all, but i'll ask here.
[02:45] <Grat> manusia: im from slovenia
[02:45] <tomaj> rephorm: i get a XLIB connection  to "0,0" refused by server or sth
[02:45] <jkossen> kameron: ok, go ahead
[02:45] <manusia> slovenia ?? where is that ?? europ
[02:45] <topyli> manusia: may i suggest that on #ubuntu you talk mainly about ubuntu
[02:45] <kameron> when i install AMD64 5.04, it installs fine, but when when i boot for the first time my grub is messed up, and i don't get a list of os's to boot to, i just get a command prompt. have you had this problem? i can't get around it. at the prompt, all the commands i type don't do anything. i just installed the x86 version, and it's working fine, i didn't have that problem. any ideas?
[02:46] <stizoner> your supposed 2 chat in #ubuntu-offtopic i guess, nobody yacks there though
[02:46] <tomaj> topyli make that only
[02:46] <barongas> HappyFool When I checked the output of dmesg the only thing regarding usb I could find was seomthing with coreusb finding some hub
[02:46] <Grat> manusia: yes it is in europe. i suggest we go talk private.... ok?
[02:46] <jkossen> kameron: humm...strange, i get the OS list just fine
[02:46] <topyli> tomaj: nooo! half my blabber would become illegal!
[02:46] <tomaj> topyli lol so its alright when you do it huh...
[02:46] <barongas> Happyfool: Registered new driver usbfs
[02:46] <tomaj> hehe
[02:46] <manusia> private chat .. ?? you female or male !
[02:47] <rephorm> tomaj: hmm. echo $DISPLAY from a term in X
[02:47] <jkossen> kameron: what does the command prompt look like?
[02:47] <Grat> male
[02:47] <Grat> but does it matter?
[02:47] <maxthon> hehehe
[02:47] <HappyFool> barongas: if you run 'dmesg|tail -f' you should see things change as they happen
[02:47] <kameron> jkossen, yeah, i've heard that from a lot of people. i'm running fairly well supported hardware, so i'm not sure what could be wrong. generic IDE stuff, DFI Lanparty mobo, AMD athlon 64 3200+..
[02:47] <kameron> i wrote it down, just a sec, let me find it jkossen
[02:47] <ubu> now i hear sound
[02:47] <manusia> grat .. you good guy ...
[02:47] <tomaj> maybe we should start a #ubuntu-personals chanel as well
[02:47] <rephorm> tomaj: and maybe try "xhost localhost" from a term in X and then rerun az from the console
[02:47] <HappyFool> barongas: alternatively, try 'lsusb' when the device is attached
[02:47] <Grat> ah
[02:47] <WasserDragoon> hi@all
[02:47] <tomaj> rephorm: :0.0
[02:47] <manusia> I wait your privat !!
[02:48] <Grat> ellow WasserDragoon
[02:48] <WasserDragoon> everyone speaks german?
[02:48] <Grat> nope
[02:48] <HappyFool> barongas: you can paste the output of that to the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:48] <thoreauputic> tomaj: to encourage humanity towards others ? ;-)
[02:48] <giard> hmmm, I wonder if colony 3 got pulled... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-3/  doesn't work
[02:48] <Grat> everyone speaks german, but i know you nick means Water Dragon :>
[02:48] <WasserDragoon> no one?
[02:48] <manusia> why grat ...
[02:48] <barongas> Happyfool: It gave no output unfortunately
[02:48] <HappyFool> WasserDragoon: not many people; try maybe in #ubuntu-de
[02:48] <topyli> tomaj: yep, #ubuntu-offtopic is still too public :)
[02:48] <Grat> manusia?!?
[02:48] <HappyFool> barongas: none?
[02:48] <zenwhen> hi
[02:48] <barongas> Happyfool and the tail thing said it was a disallowed search
[02:48] <WasserDragoon> ok thanks@happyfool
[02:48] <rephorm> Grat: dragoon != dragon (Drache == Dragon) ;)
[02:48] <tomaj> rephorm: adding localhost didnt change
[02:48] <manusia> I think you talk to me ??
[02:48] <barongas> Happyfool lsusb gave nothing
[02:49] <tomaj> rephorm: same error
[02:49] <HappyFool> barongas: oops, my mistake
[02:49] <Grat> rephorm: sorry :>
[02:49] <HappyFool> barongas: tail -f /var/log/dmesg
[02:49] <WasserDragoon> yes dragoon != dragon
[02:49] <giard> nevermind, now it is
[02:49] <rephorm> tomaj: well, you'll have to figure out how to get az to run from outside of x, then use that cmd in your crontab :)
[02:49] <Grat> manusia: i sent you a msg. if you wish respond, if not do not respond :>
[02:49] <tomaj> rephorm: way over my head lol
[02:49] <rephorm> tomaj: sorry, i'm out of ideas :)
[02:49] <tomaj> should i restart x after adding localhost maybe?
[02:49] <maxthon> manusia: this is a technical assistance chat
[02:50] <manusia> thats why I say you are a good guy ...
[02:50] <rephorm> tomaj: no, the xhost cmd doesn't permanently change things. only for the current instance of x
[02:50] <HappyFool> barongas: anyway, lsusb should at least list something, even if nothing is plugged in (as far as i know)
[02:50] <tomaj> rephorm: i see
[02:50] <barongas> HappyFool It didn't even notice the usb, maybe I'll try another usb port or something if the one on my motherboard hasn't been found by ubuntu..
[02:50] <kameron> jkossen, hmm, i can't find it. it said something like "Grub version xx.xx.xx. Bash like commands work. Press tab for commands." but all commands don't do anything.
[02:51] <barongas> Happyfool, the trail thing is static when pluggin unplugging atm
[02:51] <ElohiteAngel> I tried to install a package a while back (brother hl5150d-lpr driver), it failed for some reason... But the package manager still show the package and everytime I try to install anything it first tries to remove the driver and when that failes (probably because there is no driver to uninstall), it wont continue. Is there anyway to tell it not to bother with the package?
[02:52] <HappyFool> barongas: hmm. sorry, i'm not sure what the problem is, but it does sound like your usb ports aren't being detected
[02:52] <tomaj> rephorm: thanx for all your help
[02:52] <rephorm> tomaj: np
[02:52] <rephorm> tomaj: can you do something (unrleated) for me real quick?
[02:52] <barongas> Happyfool: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I have some usb-card lying around somewhere. Maybe that'll do the trick. Thanks for your time.
[02:52] <HappyFool> barongas: you can maybe look at System -> Administration -> Device manager and see if anything USB related is listed there
[02:52] <HappyFool> barongas: ok, good luck
[02:52] <tomaj> rephorm: so once i figure out how to get it running from tty1 jut put that command in crontab?
[02:53] <rephorm> tomaj: yeah
[02:53] <ubu> the problem is when i play .avi file with xine , it says  /mnt/wind/video/file.avi use an unsupported codec: Audio Codec:MPEG layer 2/3 (0x55) Start play back anyway ?
[02:53] <ubu> it saying that ...
[02:53] <ubu> do i need to install codes for xine ?
[02:53] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone know what 'chirico'  is?
[02:53] <tomaj> rephorm: no way! what do you think im like techsupport or something?
[02:53] <ubu> could anyone help me please ?
[02:53] <ubu> i can play mp3 songs with xmms . it is ok
[02:53] <tomaj> rephorm: :P shoot
[02:53] <ubu> when i open .avi file with xine , i got this problem
[02:53] <ubu> manusia, would u please help me ?
[02:53] <tomaj> rephorm: how can i help you
[02:53] <ubu> the problem is when i play .avi file with xine , it says  /mnt/wind/video/file.avi use an unsupported codec: Audio Codec:MPEG layer 2/3 (0x55) Start play back anyway ?
[02:53] <ubu> how to resolve that problem ?
[02:53] <ubu> thanks
[02:53] <Grat> ubu: manusia is no longer here
[02:53] <ubu> :(
[02:54] <rephorm> tomaj: :) run xkbwatch in x, then press left_alt + left_shift, then do it backwards (left_shift + left_alt -- shift first then alt while shift is down)
[02:54] <rephorm> tomaj: and tell me how many lights turn on in each case
[02:54] <tomaj> rephorm: lol one sec
[02:54] <ubu> Grat, would u please help me?
[02:54] <rephorm> tomaj: just the # of columns with lights really :)
[02:54] <ubu> the problem is when i play .avi file with xine , it says  /mnt/wind/video/file.avi use an unsupported codec: Audio Codec:MPEG layer 2/3 (0x55) Start play back anyway ?
[02:54] <Grat> ubu: trying to google it. i saw whats the problem ;>
[02:55] <HappyFool> ubu: have you read this page? (see below)
[02:55] <HappyFool> !restricted
[02:55] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <tomaj> how to explain lol
[02:55] <Grat> thats what i was trying to find :>
[02:55] <tomaj> rephorm: how do i describe the light conveniently?
[02:56] <mohkohn> Having a small problem getting my webcam going. I have followed this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53755&highlight=logitech+webcam
[02:56] <tomaj> rephorm: the combinations light up the same lights
[02:56] <rephorm> tomaj: ok, thats enough info.
[02:56] <tomaj> ok
[02:56] <Grat> mohkohn and what the problem? :>
[02:56] <tomaj> rephorm: but in opposite order obviously
[02:57] <mohkohn> [00000235]  v4l demuxer error: cannot open device (No such file or directory)
[02:57] <rephorm> tomaj: here (hoary - amd64) shift-alt only lights up the shift one :)
[02:57] <mgcross> checkinstall ROCKS
[02:57] <mgcross> :-)
[02:57] <mohkohn> [00000237]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)
[02:57] <mohkohn> Segmentation fault
[02:57] <tomaj> rephorm: lol thats weird so you can alt after pressing shift?
[02:57] <Grat> mohkohn: you sure the device is connected?
[02:57] <james> mohkohn: are you in the audio group
[02:57] <tomaj> maybe its keyboard?
[02:57] <Grat> btw: isnt Segmentation fault a really bad sign?
[02:58] <mgcross> made a .deb file for wallpapoz if anyone would like it....
[02:58] <rephorm> tomaj: nahh, its the xkb setup on here. (i can confirm with xev that the key is sending an event, it just doesn't set the proper modifier flags)
[02:58] <tomaj> rephorm: i have no idea what any of that meant, you lost me at xev hahaha
[02:58] <topyli> Grat: it's very bad for the process in question, yes :)
[02:58] <mohkohn> I am in audio. lsusb Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:0870 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[02:59] <rephorm> tomaj: messed up modmap :)
[02:59] <tomaj> rephorm: thanx for your help again, have a good night/day!
[02:59] <tomaj> rephorm: thats beyond me too lol
[02:59] <tomaj> night everyone
[02:59] <rephorm> tomaj: hehe. take care
[02:59] <tomaj> bye
[02:59] <Spear> have a good day !
[02:59] <tomaj> you too
[02:59] <Spear> bye
[02:59] <Spear> thanks
[02:59] <mohkohn> lsmod shows quickcam
[03:00] <larsrohdin> Hi, what is the best c++ editor and compiler in linux (ubuntu)?
[03:00] <ElohiteAngel> I tried to install a package a while back (brother hl5150d-lpr driver), it failed for some reason... But the package manager still show the package and everytime I try to install anything it first tries to remove the driver and when that failes (probably because there is no driver to uninstall), it wont continue. Is there anyway to tell it not to bother with the package?
[03:00] <ubu> HappyFool, .avi files are not allowed on ubuntu ?
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> larsrohdin, try ajunta and g++
[03:00] <mohkohn> ndiswrapper -l bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[03:01] <mohkohn> When I try vlc it just crashes
[03:01] <HappyFool> ubu: they are; however, in some countries some software is patented (e.g., mp3 in the US), and to avoid legal troubles ubuntu does not distribute this software on the CD
[03:01] <maxthon> ubu: did you install w32codecs?
[03:01] <larsrohdin> wickedpuppy, i cant find ajunta with apt-get isn't it there?
[03:02] <mjr> topyli, only?
[03:02] <manu_> cioa
[03:02] <HappyFool> ubu: if you read the restricted wiki page, you will find instructions on how to install the necessary software
[03:02] <manu_> i just upgrade to ubuntu
[03:02] <topyli> mjr: seems pretty cool: http://www.go-l.com/monitors/athens/features/index.htm
[03:02] <manu_> i have a plugin ptoblem for the sound
[03:02] <larsrohdin> isn't emacs an c++ editor?
[03:02] <manu_> can some one help me
[03:02] <HappyFool> emacs is an everything editor. it's also an irc client ;)
[03:02] <mjr> topyli, not bad, not bad
[03:03] <manu_> i can not read mp3
[03:03] <topyli> mjr: i wonder how much those cost
[03:03] <larsrohdin> HappyFool, ok, because i think thats what i used in widows... ill try it out
[03:03] <topyli> mjr: i might have to upgrade my matrox G550 card too :)
[03:03] <HappyFool> larsrohdin: welcome to the Light Side, my son
[03:03] <HappyFool> ;)
[03:04] <mohkohn> I am really stuck on this can't find anything relevant in google.
[03:04] <manu_> does some one knows the audio plug in for mp3?
[03:04] <HappyFool> manu_: read the restricted page on the wiki (see below)
[03:04] <HappyFool> !restricted
[03:04] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:04] <HappyFool> mohkohn: have you tried 'pkill esd' to make esd give up the sound card?
[03:04] <ElohiteAngel> Anyone know how to deal with my problem? Google didn't fins a solution.
[03:05] <ElohiteAngel> *find
[03:05] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: do you know the package name?
[03:05] <filip_> how can i connvert .avi to MPEG1 or MPEG2 ?
[03:06] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: and do know how to use a terminal and sudo?
[03:06] <larsrohdin> HappyFool, yeah thats what i've heard=)
[03:06] <mjr> filip_, eg. transcode
[03:06] <bread> hi
[03:06] <bread> hi?
[03:06] <HappyFool> ello bread
[03:07] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, yes(hl5150dlpr) and yes.
[03:07] <filip_> mjr: what :S?
[03:07] <bread> yes
[03:07] <bread> i cannot speak korean
[03:07] <sits> hello
[03:07] <mjr> filip_, it was an answer
[03:07] <filip_> mjr: that i understand but what should i do?
[03:07] <bread> becuz, error
[03:07] <bread> help me
[03:07] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: ok, try 'sudo dpkg --purge hl5150dlpr' -- if there are errors, put them on the pastebin
[03:07] <bread> i hope to say korean
[03:08] <zenwhen> i can do that
[03:08] <zenwhen> korean
[03:08] <sits> I would like to report some minor faults in the breezy live cd and I'm too lazy to sign up for a bugzilla account. Where is the next best place to report the faults?
[03:08] <mjr> filip_, apt-get it (might've been in multiverse), then read the docs (I don't know how to use it)
[03:08] <gabriel> hi when i hibernate i resume immediately. can i fix it?
[03:08] <bread> i'm beginner
[03:08] <filip_> mjr: okej i will try it.
[03:08] <bread> anybody, help me
[03:08] <sits> gabriel: check dmesg
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> (Reading database ... 74542 files and directories currently installed.)
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> Removing hl5150dlpr ...
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> /var/lib/dpkg/info/hl5150dlpr.postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file or directory
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> dpkg: error processing hl5150dlpr (--purge):
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel>  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:08] <ElohiteAngel>  hl5150dlpr
[03:08] <sits> gabriel: you might have a device that doesn't suspend properly
[03:08] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: i said 'pastebin'
[03:09] <filip_> mjr: dont find the package
[03:09] <rolo> Anybody knows where to get Skype?
[03:09] <rolo> or some Skype client?
[03:09] <rolo> for ubuntu
[03:09] <HappyFool> !skype
[03:09] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[03:09] <EasterSunshine> rolo: its in the repos
[03:09] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: you uninstalled this before?
[03:10] <bread> so...sorry...bye ^^
[03:10] <Angrod> is there any Ventrilo clients for Linux?
[03:10] <gabriel> sits i get this answer repeated many times VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[03:11] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, Sorry, you got it anyway? And yes, I tried to uninstall it...
[03:11] <gabriel> sits: i get this answer repeated many times VFS: busy inodes on changed media.
[03:11] <xst> I have just made a HD install. On the live CD it finely recognized my USB memory stick and showed it in the "My Machine" window. But in the HD install the USB device is not automatically mounted. What to do?
[03:11] <sits> gabriel: Hmm
[03:12] <ElohiteAngel> http://pastebin.com/342223
[03:12] <filip_> how can i get multiverse
[03:12] <sits> gabriel: I can't say I know why that would be but I think you get that sort of error when you try to unmount a disk still in use
[03:12] <troy14> hello
[03:12] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: hmm. according to 'man dpkg', the postrm script is the last thing to be run
[03:12] <troy14> i have an issue with video i could use some help with
[03:12] <h08817> problem here with gnome
[03:12] <gabriel> ill try unmounting all disks
[03:12] <sits> gabriel: could be something is trying to use the hard disk when you try to hibernate and consequently the hibernation process fails
[03:12] <gabriel> sits: ill try unmounting all disks
[03:13] <sits> gabriel: woah
[03:13] <h08817> i don't have 4 desktops anymore
[03:13] <h08817> and i can't click view desktop
[03:13] <sits> gabriel: that shouldn't strictly be necessary
[03:13] <sits> gabriel: but as I said I don't *actually* know why you would be getting that error
[03:13] <troy14> can anyone help me with a distorted video issue?
[03:14] <sits> gabriel: (and if that disk were / then you may have trouble unmounting it)
[03:14] <mohkohn> Got the webcam working. I think I must be blond today! Or grey with oldtimers disease.
[03:14] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: hmm. this may be a bit hacky, but maybe you could edit /var/lib/dpkg/status, and remove the package entry there (or just change its status)
[03:14] <gabriel> sits: ill try unmounting all disks just to make sure
[03:14] <mohkohn> /dev/video0 instead of /dev/video
[03:14] <filip_> how can i get multiverse ?
[03:14] <sits> gabriel: before you do
[03:14] <stizoner> god forbid u could actually right click and mount a drive
[03:15] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: if you want to try this, first make a backup of that file, and then we can give it a go
[03:15] <troy14> ok, but I need to know how to get ubuntu to boot to a prompt instead of gui
[03:15] <sits> gabriel: you may want to do a dmesg -c to clear dmesg out and then do another suspend
[03:15] <tanxarobi> hi! Is here anybody professional in sound settings? I appreciate any kind of help!
[03:15] <gabriel> sits: ok
[03:15] <sits> gabriel: that way you know the messages you see are related to the suspend and not something else
[03:15] <sits> gabriel: (e.g. removing a usb key)
[03:15] <filip_> is it someone that know how i get the damn multiverse ?
[03:16] <HappyFool> filip_: read the pages below
[03:16] <HappyFool> !repos
[03:16] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:16] <roham_> Hi, I want to adjust my touchpad more... tried to install ksynaptics, but it didnt work it want KDE... anyone knows what I should dp?
[03:16] <filip_> HappyFool: thanx
[03:16] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, it says the package status is "purge ok half-installed"
[03:16] <OwnageLinux> are there any good games for ubuntu?
[03:17] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: my idea is to change it to purge ok not-installed
[03:17] <gabriel> sits: very strange. when i give the dmesg -c command the message VFS: busy inodes on changed media. comes out 12 times. not as before 100 or so but only 12
[03:17] <sits> OwnageLinux: what sort of games?
[03:17] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: after you've backed the file up! ;)
[03:17] <mohkohn> Ubuntu is great. I have my sound, webcam, wireless card, Kodak Dx3500 Digicam and thanks to ubuntuguide can listen to mp3's
[03:17] <OwnageLinux> sits: i dunno.... like fun games
[03:17] <mohkohn> Everything works.
[03:17] <sits> OwnageLinux: as in commercial FPS games or something else?
[03:17] <gabriel> sits: i have ho usb keys attached
[03:17] <mohkohn> On a laptop
[03:17] <sits> OwnageLinux: give me an example of what you like
[03:17] <OwnageLinux> sits: ummm i like the windows game infantry.
[03:17] <sits> gabriel: and you haven't plugged and removed any recently
[03:18] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, done. Should I just try to install something or do I need to restart some process first?
[03:18] <sits> OwnageLinux: hmm I've never played that but it sounds like a strategy game
[03:18] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: well, try 'dpkg -s ubuntu-desktop'
[03:18] <gabriel> sits: a few days ago... maybe i need a reboot
[03:18] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: err, 'dpkg -s <yourbrokenpackage', rather
[03:18] <tanxarobi> I can't record sound and can't hear TV. TV sound sorks from TV card but not from sound card line in however they are linked. I tried tried everything in alsamixer but in vain. Can anybody help me?
[03:18] <larsrohdin> so im pretty new to c++ programming, but what does 'Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 mean'? it also says 'no makefile found', so im guessing ive just missed something, but this is the first time i program in linux... help?
[03:19] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, it says "Package `hl5151dlpr' is not installed and no info is available." That's a good thing, right?
[03:19] <gabriel> sits: i'll give it a reboot and try it again
[03:19] <larsrohdin> in emacs that is
[03:20] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: hmm. i'm not sure -- let me check
[03:20] <sits> OwnageLinux: as in Battlefield 1942 Infantry?
[03:20] <OwnageLinux> sits: no
[03:20] <OwnageLinux> sits: its made by harmless games... then purchased by sony..
[03:20] <OwnageLinux> sits: but there is a free version at kickme.to/infinity-zone
[03:20] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: no, i'd expect to see some info about the package
[03:21] <sits> OwnageLinux: ah
[03:21] <xst> Does anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't automatically mount my USB memory stick and shows it in the "Computer" window? -I can see in /var/log/syslog that the device is correctly beeing identified as /dev/sda1. What to do?
[03:21] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: e.g., i get exactly the same message for that package name, but i've never installed it (i'm sure my system knows nothing about hl5151dlpr)
[03:21] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: anyway, might be ok
[03:21] <token> hi everyone. could someone pls tell me how to apply j2sdk to mozilla firefox?
[03:21] <OwnageLinux> sits: lol
[03:21] <sits> OwnageLinux: well looking at that screenshot it looks like a realtime strategy game
[03:21] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, it also says "Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[03:21] <ElohiteAngel> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents."
[03:21] <tuskernini> wierd, my usb gets picked up fine... not tne cam though
[03:22] <barongas> Ehmm, is there some kind of package I need to install in order to play mp3-files? All the players I've tried freeze or complain they want modules
[03:22] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: yeah, that's not important -- i think that's for looking inside .deb files
[03:22] <OwnageLinux> sits: I would play it right now if i had cedega :\
[03:22] <sits> OwnageLinux: I am not aware of any popular that looks that polished on Linux (but that doesn't mean something doesn't exist). There are turn based ones out there but it doesn't sound like that's what you're looking for
[03:22] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: however, it seems dpkg can't find the hlwutsit package in /var/lib/dpkg/status, which is a bit weird
[03:22] <token> could someone tell me how to apply java to mozilla firefox?
[03:23] <larsrohdin> HappyFool, can you help me get started with emacs?
[03:23] <barongas> token I think you can download some compilable jre thing from suns site..
[03:23] <HappyFool> larsrohdin: give me a few minutes
[03:23] <larsrohdin> HappyFool, sure
[03:23] <reiki> token: did you istall the java package?
[03:23] <hardw1re> anyone got a quickcam messenger running on an x86_64 system?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> !java
[03:23] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:23] <OwnageLinux> sits: where do i get a compiled cedega?
[03:23] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, yeah, I figured it was just some extra. / Shoudn't that just be like never having installed it in the first place?
[03:23] <sits> OwnageLinux: http://www.happypenguin.org/ is a big list
[03:23] <sits> OwnageLinux: you pay for it
[03:23] <Spug> how can i check what graphics card i'm using? what's the name of the hardware listing tool, if there is one?
[03:24] <sits> OwnageLinux: (honestly that's the easiest way to get it)
[03:24] <token> reiki: downloaded sun-j2sdk1.5
[03:24] <barongas> Spug Try the device manager in gnome
[03:24] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: not exactly -- dpkg should still know about it, because it's still listed in the 'status' file
[03:24] <OwnageLinux> sits: i don't wanna pay for it :-\
[03:24] <Spug> barongas: i'm in flux right now, though :/ what's it called?
[03:24] <sits> OwnageLinux: Fair enough. I'm out of bright ideas there.
[03:24] <OwnageLinux> sits: lol
[03:24] <reiki> token: ok... after I did that I simply closed out of all instances of FireFox and restarted it. Then it was installed. :)
[03:24] <barongas> Spug: System -> Administration -> Device manager
[03:25] <token> reiki: doesnt work for me
[03:25] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: this is fairly important; if that file is broken, your system could get confused
[03:25] <Spug> barongas: no, see, i don't have the system menu
[03:25] <Spug> i'm in fluxbox
[03:25] <sits> gabriel: generally speaking, rebooting rarely makes problems go away on linux
[03:25] <token> reiki: but i should get it out on wiki.ubuntu thx for trying to help :)
[03:25] <barongas> Spug Ooooh
[03:25] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, so what can I do?
[03:26] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: did you make a backup?
[03:26] <phantom_> hi people
[03:26] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: of 'status', i mean
[03:26] <Ummmmm> roflmao did you say 'backup' ?? tee hee hee
[03:26] <phantom_> anyone here has sound problems with Audigy 2ZS in Ubuntu?
[03:26] <phantom_> i jsut installed it.. the sound card is detected, but no sound
[03:27] <sits> no takers on my "where do I report minor bugs other than bugzilla" question?
[03:27] <gabriel> sits: well i gave it a reboot and now dmesg gives me all info of startup. did dmesg -c and finally cleaned list
[03:27] <token> reiki: now i see the problem not j2sdk but j2re -> bug
[03:27] <token> :)
[03:27] <gabriel> sits: now i go back trying hibernation
[03:27] <sits> gabriel: ok
[03:27] <reiki> token: ta-da! :)
[03:27] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, of course.
[03:28] <phantom_> can anyone help resolve my sound probelm? I have no sound
[03:28] <DrTiger> Hey, I cannot contact archive.ubuntulinux.org
[03:28] <Ummmmm> get an ipod?
[03:28] <sits> phantom_: not uncommon alas
[03:28] <sits> phantom_: I know it's obvious but did you check the volume(s)?
[03:28] <DrTiger> thus I can't download any restricted packages anymore
[03:28] <phantom_> yes
[03:28] <DrTiger> though it worked when I connected a few days before
[03:28] <sits> phantom_: how are you trying to play sound?
[03:28] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:28] <BiSK-8> in what folder is "totem"?
[03:29] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: ok, i think restore that file from backup, and try the 'dpkg -s hlwutsit' command again -- if it gives the same 'i don't know message', then i guess nothing's changed. If it doesn't, then try re-editing the status file, but be careful not to introduce extra characters/spaces etc
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Spug: you could type  " lspci -v | less "
[03:29] <barongas> Anyone have any ideas why no mediaplyer wants to play mp3? My soundcard gives off sound perfectly.
[03:29] <phantom_> well no welcome sound comes up.. and does not play sound from audio cd
[03:29] <sits> BiSK-8: whereis totem
[03:29] <sits> phantom_: steady on
[03:29] <DrTiger> can anybody help me?
[03:29] <sits> phantom_: you've got potentially two different problems there
[03:29] <sits> phantom_: has sound ever worked?
[03:29] <phantom_> no
[03:29] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[03:29] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:30] <sits> phantom_: what does "lspci | grep audio" say?
[03:30] <BiSK-8> sits, usually the exacutabels are in what folder?
[03:30] <hobbit__> is it possible to reinstall gnome?
[03:30] <DrTiger> hey, is archive.ubuntu.com accessible for you guys?
[03:30] <sits> BiSK-8: depends on the executable and whether it is needed for system boot
[03:30] <Z0l> hi
[03:30] <BiSK-8> ok
[03:30] <sits> BiSK-8: however the whereis command looks in all the common places
[03:30] <BiSK-8> tks
[03:30] <DrTiger> apt can download most package info files to my computer but not from archive.ubuntu.org
[03:30] <Xenguy> DrTiger: yes
[03:30] <ronin> hy all
[03:31] <gabriel> sits: i got between many lines a fatal one here it is: swsusp: FATAL: cannot find swap device, try swapon -a!
[03:31] <hobbit__> my gnome is acting up and if i minimize something it is gone
[03:31] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop  <--- more or less gnome
[03:31] <sits> gabriel: ah there you go
[03:31] <sits> gabriel: no swap - no suspend :)
[03:31] <hobbit__> ok
[03:31] <hobbit__> thanks
[03:31] <Xenguy> DrTiger: (I can browse there; I didn't try apt-get)
[03:31] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: that probably won't help
[03:31] <DrTiger> I can't browse it -.-
[03:31] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: reinstalling won't change the configuration
[03:31] <DrTiger> it's strange
[03:32] <ronin> does anyone know how i can mount a ntfs-partition in ubuntu? the /mnt folder appears to be empty
[03:32] <james> ronin: you have to mkdir first
[03:32] <hobbit__> what is the command to restart gnome without restarting ur computer?
[03:32] <DrTiger> well maybe my windows system can connect...
[03:32] <gabriel> sits: that easy... but i did put under sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst the path of the swap. where did i get it wrong?
[03:32] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: if your task bar has disappeared you just need to add it
[03:32] <vtsangwon> hobbit: killall gnome-panel
[03:32] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, http://pastebin.com/342234
[03:32] <Spug> thoreauputic: thanks, that did the trick :)
[03:32] <hobbit__> ahh ok
[03:33] <ronin> james: i'm quite new in linux... so i've got just to make a folder named "ntfs"?
[03:33] <sits> gabriel: do you have any swap on at the moment?
[03:33] <james> ronin: mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/ntfs -t ntfs ???
[03:33] <reiki> is there a proper way (without disturbing teh channel) to have the bot check on the availability of a program? For example... I want to see if POPFile is packaged...
[03:33] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: right click the panel, try the applet list
[03:33] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: weird
[03:33] <hobbit__> thoreauputic, ?
[03:33] <gabriel> sits: if i give a print under parted on hda i see swap partition hda6
[03:33] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: isn't it hl5150dlpr ?
[03:34] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: you can't see minimised apps, right?
[03:34] <Z0l> can i migrate to breezy only by changing my sources.list and doing a dist-upgrade? i'm using sid atm
[03:34] <hobbit__> thoreauputic, i just reinstalled the desktop and i don't have my 4 desktops and my programs i have open aren't listed on the toolbar
[03:34] <sn0n> http://sn0nsb0x.info/~rob/stats.php
[03:34] <sn0n> w00t w00t
[03:34] <gabriel> sits: that's why i put under menu.lst resume=/dev/hda6
[03:34] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: as I said , you can add those to the toolbar/panel from the right-click list
[03:35] <sits> gabriel: but does /etc/fstab refer to any swap partitions
[03:35] <sits> gabriel: the stuff you are editing refers to partitions to use when resuming
[03:35] <topyli> sn0n: w00t indeed =)
[03:35] <sn0n> hehe
[03:35] <sits> gabriel: ok here's an easy one
[03:35] <sn0n> i said forget using that system
[03:35] <sits> gabriel: what does the last line of free say?
[03:35] <sn0n> ima start my own
[03:35] <sn0n> lol
[03:36] <sn0n> for my own personal use
[03:36] <sn0n> hehe
[03:36] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, right! My bad! (D'oh!). It says http://pastebin.com/342237
[03:36] <hobbit__> thoreauputic, ok i got it almost back to normal but how do i get my currently opnen programs to show up? in the bar?
[03:37] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: ok, now try doing that edit again (half-installed -> not-installed) and do the "dpkg -s hl5150dlpr" again
[03:37] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: hmm - I'm in fluxbox, but I think "window list" is what you want
[03:37] <topyli> sn0n: make it display all this script does: http://siltala.net/comp/system-info.sh :)
[03:38] <hobbit__> how do i do that?
[03:38] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, Done. It says http://pastebin.com/342239
[03:38] <sn0n> sure
[03:38] <sn0n> :-D
[03:38] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: the "system tray" thing is called "notification area" BTW
[03:38] <ronin> james: i made a folder "/mnt/ntfs" and then executed the mount-order.. but it still doesn't work. it says mounting point /mnt/ntfs doesn't exist
[03:38] <hobbit__> ok thanks for that information
[03:38] <gabriel> sits: /etc/fstab has /dev/hda7       mountpoint:none            type:swap    options:sw but from parted i get my swap partition on hda6. what is the lasta line of free?
[03:38] <sn0n> topyli, all that page says is
[03:38] <sn0n> m1
[03:38] <sn0n> lol
[03:38] <Sly> hey, what ssh packages do i have available
[03:38] <sn0n> and m2
[03:38] <sits> gabriel: do free
[03:38] <hobbit__> how do i run windows list?
[03:38] <topyli> sn0n: i just noticed. debugging... :)
[03:38] <sn0n> lol
[03:38] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: ok, so far so good. Now test if synaptic or apt-get complain about installing packages
[03:38] <sits> gabriel: and what does the line that starts Swap: say?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> Sly: openssh-server
[03:39] <hobbit__> o i found it
[03:39] <gabriel> sits: 0 0 0
[03:39] <hobbit__> but thats the wrong one
[03:39] <hobbit__> no thats right
[03:39] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: according to 'man dpkg', all the files *should* be removed, but i'm not sure what effect not running the post-remove scripts will have
[03:39] <Sly> thanks you :)
[03:39] <hobbit__> thoreauputic, thanks all is well now
[03:39] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: just bear this in mind if you have problems in the future
[03:39] <thoreauputic> hobbit_: you're welcome :)
[03:39] <topyli> sn0n: simple typo! http://siltala.net/comp/system-info-sh :)
[03:39] <gabriel> sits: I have ho swap mounted then i guess
[03:40] <h08817> anyone know of a good place to start learning C++ and a good compiler?
[03:40] <sn0n> lemme runit
[03:40] <sn0n> 1sec
[03:40] <ronin> h08817: test dev-cpp, but i dont know if its available for linux:(
[03:41] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, Well it can't be that bas considering that the package was never really installed. And I will.
[03:41] <h08817> o
[03:41] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, It worked! Thanks!!
[03:41] <sn0n> that shows alot of useless things
[03:41] <sn0n> i like it
[03:41] <sn0n> lol
[03:41] <HappyFool> ElohiteAngel: cool :-)
[03:41] <resmo> hi
[03:41] <topyli> sn0n: the kernel config info might be a bit overkill though :)
[03:41] <h08817> how do i get the linux compiler to work?
[03:41] <thoreauputic> h08817:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:42] <h08817> like execute it
[03:42] <h08817> i opened synaptic and installed it
[03:42] <sn0n> ok
[03:42] <sn0n> its bed time now
[03:42] <ElohiteAngel> HappyFool, Thanks again! Finally I can install something...!
[03:42] <sn0n> gf's gonna be waking up soon
[03:42] <topyli> sn0n: also, i think i had to personalize it for my username, so
[03:42] <topyli> night
[03:43] <ronin> h08817: http://ladedu.com/cpp/ i started cpp here...
[03:43] <h08817> thoreauputic, so build-essential is a ?
[03:43] <h08817> ok thanks ronin
[03:43] <sits> gabriel: mmm
[03:43] <GNULinuxer> h08817: it's a meta-package ...
[03:43] <h08817> thoreauputic, o ok a compiler
[03:43] <resmo> i updated the kernel using the ubuntu-update tool, but uname -a says that i use 2.6.10-5, is that normal?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> h08817: it has gcc , g++ etc - it's a metapackage for compiling
[03:43] <ronin> h08817: i forgot its in german:( sorry man...
[03:44] <HappyFool> h08817: also maybe look here for C++ intro: http://ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCS/cpp.php
[03:44] <h08817> well can't do that maybe i can get google to translate it for me
[03:44] <HappyFool> h08817: i think some of bruce eckel's books (thinking in c++) might be available for download too
[03:45] <ronin> do i have to download something to mount a ntfs-partition?
[03:45] <gabriel> sits: should i just get the swap partition mounted like an hard disk?
[03:45] <sits> gabriel: basically I think your fstab is looking at the wrong partition for swap
[03:45] <sits> gabriel: but it would take about three commands to verify this
[03:46] <tombs> hi ppl
[03:46] <gabriel> sits: on partition hda7 i have a small booting partition of acronis
[03:46] <sits> gabriel: fdisk -l | grep swap
[03:47] <sits> gabriel: what does that say?
[03:47] <gabriel> sits: for backing up purpuses on wxp
[03:47] <h08817> thoreauputic, so how would i use this compiler? open gedit and enter all the code then go back to the prompt and do a gcc filename?
[03:47] <gabriel> sits: no answer... it run smoothley
[03:48] <sits> gabriel: sounds like you have no swap partition to mount
[03:48] <vader1102> bob2, thanx to everyone in here, I have been hired as a network admin running Ubuntu on their workstations and a bunch of other stuff for their servers, first real job in 3 years..........thank you everyone
[03:48] <thoreauputic> h08817: I'm not a programmer, sorry - I use gcc to compile source with ./configure etc...  I think you can call the compiler with "cc"
[03:48] <sits> gabriel: unfortunately fixing that is a mildly involved process with major consequences if you get it wrong
[03:49] <sits> gabriel: I just don't have the time to talk you through fixing something like that...
[03:49] <h08817> never mind i found some good info
[03:49] <kemik> gcc -o outputfile source.c
[03:49] <gabriel> sits: no problem. at least i know where to look now. i could not figure out myself i didn't have a swap partition
[03:50] <sits> gabriel: ok. sorry you didn't get a final solution
[03:51] <ompaul> h08817, g++ -o foo  hello.cpp
[03:51] <EasterSunshine> trying to unmount a smbfs, i get umount: /home/silvertear/Silvertear.Phazon: device is busy <--what processes can be locking it up?
[03:51] <ompaul> h08817, if you want to do c++
[03:51] <ubu> is there any suitable player to play *.avi,*.mp3,*.DAT,*.mpeg,*.wma on ubuntu ?
[03:51] <Angrod> why do i get this error when i try to recive a fil in X-chat: DCC RECV: Cannot open /home/bateau/Desktop/lol_itachi_aeger_kisame.jpg for writing
[03:51] <Angrod> i am logged inn as the right user  :x
[03:51] <gabriel> sits: i got a good solution. a good start to get to a solution. thanks a lot! :)
[03:51] <ubu> i used MPlayer , but when i open mplayer , it is playing with full screen mode and i couldnt return to my desktop
[03:52] <vader1102> Easter have you tried mount -t?
[03:52] <ronin> by the way... anybody knows a good visual cpp tutorial?
[03:52] <[PG] _Sinnlos> lirc bring to run knows anywhere ??
[03:52] <EasterSunshine> vader1102: i mounted it with -t smbfs, now i am trying to UNmount it
[03:52] <hmrocha> ronin, use monodevelop
[03:52] <ompaul> s/panet/planet
[03:52] <vader1102> woops sorry Easter ;-)
[03:52] <ubu> any idea ?
[03:52] <kemik> EasterSunshine: not sure if you can use FUSER to see which pid is using the devic.e.. worth a try
[03:53] <hmrocha> ronin, and try gtk instead of MFC
[03:53] <[PG] _Sinnlos> lirc bring to run knows anywhere ??
[03:53] <EasterSunshine> vader1102: its ok
[03:53] <EasterSunshine> kemik: thx
[03:53] <ronin> hmrocha: whats that? and mfc?
[03:53] <ubu> which player r u using to play .dat,.wav,.wma,.mpeg..avi ?
[03:53] <hmrocha> ronin, MFC is the graphics library you use when you're coding visual apps with C++ in windows
[03:53] <kemik> ubu:  VLC and rhythmbox
[03:53] <EasterSunshine> hmm...fuser locks up
[03:54] <ompaul> ubu try ctrl+c
[03:54] <hmrocha> ronin, Gtk is used to code visual apps for gnome
[03:54] <ubu> kemik, VLC player ?
[03:54] <hmrocha> ronin, MFC only runs on windows, Gtk runs in windows and linux
[03:54] <kemik> !vlc
[03:54] <ronin> hmrocha: i'd like to programm for linux & windows...
[03:54] <ubotu> it has been said that vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support
[03:54] <[PG] _Sinnlos> lirc bring to run knows anywhere ??
[03:54] <hmrocha> ronin, good
[03:54] <ubu> ompaul, why ctrl+c ?
[03:54] <ronin> hmrocha: where can i get monodevelop?
[03:55] <kemik> ubotu forget vlc
[03:55] <hmrocha> ronin, you should use C# instead of C++
[03:55] <ubotu> kemik: i forgot vlc
[03:55] <hmrocha> ronin, download mono and monodevelop
[03:55] <ompaul> ubu you asked to stop mplayer
[03:55] <hmrocha> ronin, you won't regret it
[03:55] <ronin> hmrocha: c# is just for windows, isnt it?
[03:55] <ubu> kemik, now i'm installing vlc
[03:55] <ompaul> ubu it may help
[03:55] <hmrocha> ronin, no, it's for linux too
[03:55] <ubu> ompaul, ctrl+c didnt help me :)
[03:55] <ubu> ctrl+d
[03:55] <kemik> ubotu vlc is it has been said that vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support, it's available in the repositories
[03:55] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[03:56] <ubu> also
[03:56] <ronin> hmrocha: cool, where can i get mono-develop? or have i to google?
[03:56] <ompaul> ubu ctrl z to throw it into the background
[03:56] <kemik> oh damn.. did i fuckup with ubotu ?
[03:56] <kemik> !vlc
[03:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, vlc is it has been said that vlc is a media player with native support for a large handfull of popular formats and excellent streaming support, it's available in the repositories
[03:56] <hmrocha> ronin, www.go-mono.com
[03:56] <spike> hi there
[03:56] <hmrocha> ronin, start with that site
[03:56] <kemik> hmm.. well well
[03:56] <spike> Seveas: hi, you there?
[03:57] <ubu> ompaul, i tried with alt+crtl+f1 and tried alt+ctrl+f7 :D
[03:57] <ronin> hmrocha: thx
[03:57] <spike> Seveas: I never received any email about that loop-aes bug u said u reported... and actually can't find it on bugzilla
[03:57] <ubu> i dont kow why mplayer doesnt want to return to my desktop
[03:57] <hmrocha> ronin, are you using linux or windows now?
[03:57] <ompaul> hehe
[03:57] <cfq> hi everyone
[03:58] <spike> mmmh, gooooood
[03:58] <thoreauputic> ubu: try hitting "f"
[03:58] <cfq> i've got a toshiba laptop and i can't get any battery status
[03:58] <ronin> hmrocha: now at this moment i'm using ubuntu... but i've got wxp on this pc too
[03:58] <kemik> hmrocha:  why use C# instead of C++ ?
[03:58] <spike> ompaul: how's you man?
[03:58] <cfq> apm says there's no apm support in the kernel
[03:58] <cfq> and acpi doesn't work
[03:58] <ompaul> spike take it private :)
[03:58] <hmrocha> kemik, C# has garbage collection for example
[03:58] <kemik> hmrocha:  may aswell use Java then
[03:58] <[PG] _Sinnlos> lirc bring to run knows anywhere ??
[03:58] <hmrocha> kemik, C++ is not managed
[03:59] <hmrocha> kemik, Java is evil
[03:59] <kemik> and C# is not ? :)
[03:59] <ronin> kemik: java is quite slow... i'm going to learn java by tomorrow...
[03:59] <hmrocha> kemik, Sun Microsystems has some strange licenses
[03:59] <hmrocha> kemik, C# specification is open
[03:59] <ronin> hmrocha: just what i think;)
[03:59] <thoreauputic> [PG] _Sinnlos: your question doesn't make much sense, but i think you want to know how to install and run lirc - why not use gaim (installed by default)
[04:00] <hmrocha> ronin, java is not slow
[04:00] <cfq> hmrocha: java spects are also open
[04:00] <lui> hello people
[04:00] <cfq> s/spects/specs
[04:00] <hmrocha> cfq, really? i didn't know that
[04:01] <lui> anybody can tell me which is the command to check the root filesystem?
[04:01] <hmrocha> cfq, but anyway, the compiler can't be redistributed
[04:01] <[PG] _Sinnlos> well i have a problem with the lirc-module-source shit :( i don't know what i should do with this
[04:01] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: are you using mono?
[04:01] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, yes
[04:01] <thoreauputic> [PG] _Sinnlos: ah sorry - wrong package (I thought you meant licq)
[04:01] <ronin> hmrocha: already tried to do a network application? i've heard a lot of things ;) but i think it's greatest fault is java isnt standalone... you need the java server
[04:01] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: Are there sitll things it doesn't support?
[04:02] <hmrocha> ronin, i use Azureus, and it a lot times faster than the bittorrent app for gnome, which is coded in C
[04:02] <cfq> hmrocha: there is also a free compiler i guess. the fastjavac.
[04:02] <hmrocha> cfq, it suports java 5?
[04:02] <[PG] _Sinnlos> thoreauputic: right lirc or lirc-modules-source
[04:02] <cfq> hmrocha: it is used by netbeans, and since netbeans is open source...
[04:02] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, i don't know, i'm coding an app that doesn't need a GUI
[04:02] <lui> anybody can tell me which is the command to check the root filesystem?
[04:02] <hmrocha> lui, fsck
[04:02] <cfq> hmrocha: it should. netbeans uses it.
[04:03] <hmrocha> cfq, cool, i like netbeans a lot
[04:03] <cfq> i have problems with my acpi support. can anyone help me?
[04:03] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: Oh ok, I'm using .NET for a long time now, just wondering, haven't had any experience with .NET apps under linux yet
[04:03] <thoreauputic> [PG] _Sinnlos: don't know, sorry
[04:03] <ronin> hmrocha: i use azureus too,.. but even its just downloading 20kbs i almost cant use the internet its so slow! (ive got a 160kbs wire)
[04:03] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, i don't use windows at home
[04:03] <[PG] _Sinnlos> knoiw anywhere what over lirc ??
[04:03] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, never used .net
[04:03] <kallesoe> Hi
[04:03] <gabriel> sits: i guess is not as simple as changing in fstab hda7 with hda6 isn't it?
[04:03] <lui> hmrocha: thank you. :)
[04:04] <hmrocha> ronin, i use azureus and i think it's really fast
[04:04] <kallesoe> any one who can help me with installing nvidia audio driver on a nforce board?
[04:04] <sits> gabriel: no
[04:04] <ronin> hmrocha: maybe it's just my pc... ;)
[04:04] <hmrocha> ronin, a language is not slow, the compiler implementation might be more or less good
[04:04] <sits> gabriel: from what you told me your partition table basically says none of your partitions are swap partitions
[04:04] <gabriel> sits: ok ill look for tutorials on the web
[04:05] <hmrocha> hmrocha, if you use gcj, it's far more slow than sun's compiler
[04:05] <ronin> hmrocha: could be, i dont know... already! in a week or so i'll know more
[04:05] <lfalvarez> sits: Have you ever used bind ?
[04:05] <sits> lfalvarez: yes
[04:05] <hmrocha> ronin, i use java at school too :)
[04:05] <hmrocha> ronin, i think you'll love java, it's one of the best languages i know
[04:05] <gabriel> sits: fstab reported /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw
[04:06] <ronin> hmrocha: are you student?
[04:06] <hmrocha> ronin, computer science student
[04:06] <gabriel> sits: so i guess the sistem sees a swap partition but it's the wrong one
[04:06] <cfq> acpi
[04:06] <cfq> i need acpi support
[04:06] <ronin> hmrocha: oh, i'm learning programmer
[04:06] <cfq> help me!
[04:07] <lfalvarez> sits: I have a problem I got a dns in my machine. I can ping mail.myserver.com, but I can't telnet mail.myserver.com 25. I'm using postfix
[04:07] <hmrocha> ronin, you don't know anything about programming?
[04:07] <sits> gabriel: I'll try and explain
[04:07] <ronin> hmrocha: gonna start my second year tomorrow;)
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  be a little more clear and specific perhaps
[04:07] <dfeed> Hi, anyone know how I can get the actual packet data from a blocked connection on my firewall?
[04:07] <Pogopuschel-> Making GUIs with java is horrible
[04:07] <sits> gabriel: your system has been told partition 7 on disk one is swap
[04:07] <Pogopuschel-> :)
[04:07] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, horrible why?
[04:08] <sits> gabriel: however NONE of your partitions appears to be a swap partition. So you can't just change it to point to the right partition because there is no right partition...
[04:08] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, it's really simple!
[04:08] <h08817> ok u programming people
[04:08] <ubu> kemik, vlc is now ok
[04:08] <cfq> dr_willis: i have a toshiba laptop and i can't get battery status
[04:08] <ubu> thanks u
[04:08] <Pogopuschel-> All these frameworks, swing, awt, etc :)
[04:08] <ubu> which player could play *.rm file ?
[04:08] <Pogopuschel-> what do you use? eclipse?
[04:08] <hmrocha> ronin, i'll start my 5th year in 5th september
[04:08] <h08817> how in the world do u save a file as .cpp
[04:08] <ubu> could realplayer play *.rm files ?
[04:08] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, you don't use awt anymore, only swing
[04:08] <pef> hi
[04:09] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, i use emacs
[04:09] <ronin> hmrocha: how many years do you have to do? my apprentice is 4 years...
[04:09] <XandriX> anyone here know a good crack the code game ?
[04:09] <hmrocha> ronin, mine is 4 years too, but i have to finish some disciplines i failed
[04:10] <Pogopuschel-> For things i can do with .NET within several minutes i need much more time with java
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  yep. I have had similer issues with laptops in the past. often its a matter of waiting for  a new kernel to come out ane eventually support all the features.
[04:10] <Grat> ellwo
[04:10] <funkyHat> all my system sounds are very distorted, but sound from other programs is fine, can anyone help me fix it?
[04:10] <ronin> oh..:( what have you learned already?
[04:10] <Grat> ellow*
[04:10] <Pogopuschel-> The only reason i use java is because of its interoperability
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  got a Compaq V2311 right now - that has some very bad issues in linux. But the latest testing kernels seem to be better with it.
[04:10] <hmrocha> ronin, a lot of stuff :)
[04:10] <hmrocha> ronin, i must finish the maths from the 1st and 2nd year
[04:11] <tsw> how could I test which one of two machines in network is the bottleneck? server or client?
[04:11] <cfq> Dr_Willis: it is a toshiba laptop. L10 i guess. apm says kernel has no support
[04:11] <h08817> ronin, no but i want to make sure i have basics down pat like write in gedit then save as a .cpp and then g++ .cpp to test what i am doing
[04:11] <cfq> Dr_Willis: and acpi just doesn't work.
[04:11] <ompaul> h08817, that is a function of the editor you are using, or if you want you can put data in a file using the cat command , cat > hello.cpp - then when you press enter you can start to enter data - but you can't make mistakes in this case :)
[04:11] <gabriel> sits: when i installed linux ubuntu it asked to automatically do 2 partitions in free space. it did 1 bigger partition for system files hda3 and one smaller for swap hda6. hda7 is a previous existing partition in fat 32. all the others not mentioned  are in ntfs for wxp. pitty it didn't get it automatically. maybe should try deleting tryky partition and reinstalling from scratch.
[04:11] <cfq> Dr_Willis: i need to get battery status. the computer keeps shutting down. and this is a centrino chipset machine.
[04:11] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, interoperability with what?
[04:12] <ronin> hmrocha: oh, stuff like that... i hate this school-things..
[04:12] <h08817> ompaul, what about vim can i still do the same switch like vim >hello.cpp?
[04:12] <cfq> Dr_Willis: even /proc/acpi/battery is empty. i can't get any values.
[04:12] <Pogopuschel-> I can be pretty sure that these apps will run under linux as they will under win
[04:12] <hmrocha> ronin, why?
[04:12] <ubu> could realplayer play *.rm files ?
[04:12] <kemik> hmrocha:  java works on all platforms
[04:12] <ubu> could realplayer play *.rm files ?
[04:12] <hmrocha> kemik, .net is supposed to work too
[04:13] <sits> gabriel: be careful. I know too many people who have ruined their partition table and lost work due to getting partition table sizing wrong
[04:13] <hmrocha> kemik, python too
[04:13] <sits> gabriel: at any rate I can't help you there
[04:13] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: But afaik there are many features mono doesn't support
[04:13] <hmrocha> kemik, you even have python in some nokia cellphone
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  yep - i feel your pain. You have checked the variouis linux-laptop pages and the Ubuntu laptop wiki/forums yet for your specific brand?
[04:13] <ompaul> h08817, no you would use commands within vim so vim filename.cpp starts the process, then you press i in the file to start inserting data but if your going to do that  get a 'help sheet' online print it aand have it to hand
[04:13] <sits> lfalvarez: your problem doesn't sound like a DNS issue
[04:13] <kemik> hmrocha:  "supposed"
[04:13] <gabriel> sits: okeydokey. i got the message. thanks a lot!
[04:13] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, maybe there are, but i never needed anything mono didn't have
[04:13] <ronin> hmrocha: it's just simple learning! no thinking (except maths ;) ) we also have accountancy
[04:14] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: some time ago i developed a program, to automatically upload some files in a queue to a freehost service, etc
[04:14] <kemik> python seems very useful actually... though i've never coded in it yet
[04:14] <Pogopuschel-> just didn't work under linux, even without gui
[04:14] <lfalvarez> sits: any ideas ?? Some missing postfix configuration ??
[04:14] <ompaul> h08817, better if you use 'nano'
[04:14] <cfq> Dr_Willis: most of them say that i need to patch the kernel. i don't want to rebuild my kernel now. i am using ubuntu 5.04.
[04:14] <sits> lfalvarez: too many possibilities
[04:14] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, what language?
[04:14] <Pogopuschel-> C#
[04:14] <sits> lfalvarez: can you ping the machine in question?
[04:14] <thoreauputic> h08817: for an intro to vim type " vimtutor" in a terminal
[04:14] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, strange, but i believe you :)
[04:14] <h08817> ok
[04:14] <lfalvarez> sits: yes
[04:14] <cfq> Dr_Willis: also i see that toshiba is the worst brand for these stuff :-)
[04:15] <Pogopuschel-> I've never made some experience with mono myself, because the only linux machine i'm running here is debian as a server, no desktop
[04:15] <lfalvarez> sits: its the same machine. I have in this machine a dns, webserver, mailserver
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  your options are limited then. They are basicially saying that the laptop is not supported yet in your current kernel (bad).. but will be in the next kernel versions (which is good)
[04:15] <sits> lfalvarez: but telnet localhost 25 does what? Returns immediately?
[04:15] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, i hope you'll try mono again sometime in the future
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  Ive been in identical spots in the past.  in 6 mo or so..  the thing should be supported fine. :(
[04:16] <Pogopuschel-> i will :)
[04:16] <kemik> for crossplatform i'd either do Java or c++ and try to avoid platform dependant libs.. (which is hard if you code certain apps ;) )
[04:16] <lfalvarez> sits: telnet localhost 25 works fine!!
[04:16] <cfq> Dr_Willis: i wonder where can i find acpi documentations. i may write my own.
[04:16] <Fade> there's a syntax error in the postinstall script for the base-config package in security
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  THAT is a very big and complex issue. sadly. the problem i hear is that the vendors/makers dont follow the specs all the way.
[04:16] <ompaul> Fade, how so?
[04:17] <hmrocha> Pogopuschel-, ronin, kemik, cfq, bye now, i have to code some lines for my app
[04:17] <Fade> there's an unterminated for loop
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  so then the linux kernel guys got to do specific patches/tweaks for each screw up by the companies.
[04:17] <Pogopuschel-> hmrocha: bye :)
[04:17] <Seveas> Fade, hoary or breezy?
[04:17] <Fade> hoary
[04:17] <Seveas> hmm
[04:17] <Seveas> linenumber?
[04:17] <cfq> Dr_Willis: thank you very much.
[04:17] <ronin> hmrocha: bye too
[04:17] <cfq> Dr_Willis: see you around.
[04:17] <Fade> line 57.
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  good luck man. the forums/wiki are the places to watch also.
[04:18] <Fade> s/\\/\;/
[04:18] <cfq> Dr_Willis: i may try to reverse engineer.
[04:18] <kemik> hmrocha:  good luck
[04:18] <ronin> is somebody out there who knows how to mount a ntfs-partition
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> cfq,  you will need MUCH good luck then.
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:18] <hmrocha> kemik, thanks, i'll need it
[04:18] <kemik> !ntfs
[04:18] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:18] <cfq> Dr_Willis: lol! thanks man.
[04:18] <kemik> ronin ^
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> ronin,  same as ya mount any other partition.
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> the installer can resize? i must of missed that.. of course I do normally put linux on its own hard drive
[04:19] <ronin> dr_willis: i've got a message mountpoint doesn't exist. in the folder /mnt is no folder "ntfs"
[04:20] <ronin> kemik: i didnt understand you
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> ronin,  well the directory you are mouinting to HAS to exist simply put. :P if you are mounting to /mnt/foo -- then you MUST mkdir /mnt/foo
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> first :P
[04:21] <sits> lfalvarez: I think I know what's going on
[04:21] <Seveas> Fade, hoary base-config postinst is correct
[04:21] <ronin> dr_willis: just a mkdir? ive done this, and mounted then... but it came the same message.. ill try again
[04:21] <sits> lfalvarez: btw which address did you say you were trying?
[04:21] <Seveas> the forloop does start in line 59
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> ronin,  mount has very poor and generic error messages at times. :P
[04:21] <stizoner> out of all the faq and forum and stuff .... i found this documentation to be the best, it has simple cut paist how 2 mount  http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html
[04:22] <Seveas> lines 32-58 are the list it loops through
[04:22] <ronin> dr_willis: can be.. this is my first linux-day ;)
[04:22] <Fade> the last line in the final for clause isn't 'apt-setup/security-updates-failed \   <\n\t> do ...'
[04:22] <Fade> ?
[04:22] <kemik> ronin:  follow the link ubotu pasted...
[04:22] <Seveas> ronin, run the winmac_fstab script somoeone gave you earlier
[04:22] <lfalvarez> sits: mi ip address. the one I put int /etc/network/interfaces
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> ronin,  google for  'linux mount drive tutorial' or check the ubunto url and the wikis.
[04:22] <Seveas> it doesn't get easier than that
[04:22] <kemik> !tell ronin about ntfs
[04:23] <kemik> ronin:  see your pm
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> it pays to learn how drives and things get mounted however. :P
[04:23] <stizoner> the unofficial documentation is better then the offical, lol
[04:23] <sits> lfalvarez: and that was?
[04:23] <stizoner> tiz k
[04:23] <ronin> kemik: whats "pm"?
[04:23] <Fade> I'm looking at base-config 2.70
[04:23] <kemik> ronin:  private message
[04:23] <Seveas> Fade, that's line 39
[04:23] <Seveas> ok, i'm looking at 2.62 which is the hoary version
[04:24] <Fade> I'm on powerpc.
[04:24] <ronin> ah! yes thx for sending ;)
[04:24] <Fade> but I am tracking hoary.
[04:24] <spike> Seveas: hi
[04:24] <Seveas> 2.70 is not a hoary version...
[04:24] <spike> Seveas: did u see my message above?
[04:24] <oonoon> hi, i'm using samba to print on a win printer which is connected to a computer of my network ; when i try to restart samba '/etc/init.d/samba restart' it's ok to stop samba daemons but fails to start them
[04:24] <Seveas> spike, no
[04:25] <spike> Seveas: I never received any email about that loop-aes bug u said u reported... and actually can't find it on bugzilla
[04:25] <Seveas> spike, 2.70 isn't even in breezy
[04:25] <Seveas> you must be using a debian or 3rd party repository...
[04:26] <Duvel> oonoon, restarting only works when they are started i think
[04:26] <ronin> dr_willis, kemik: here's the (new) error:mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
[04:26] <ronin>        missing codepage or other error
[04:26] <ronin>        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
[04:26] <ronin>        instead of some logical partition inside?)
[04:26] <ronin>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try      dmesg | tail  or so
[04:26] <Seveas> ronin, do NOT paste in here
[04:26] <Fade> well, I'll sort through my sources.list and double check.
[04:26] <gabriel> amazing
[04:26] <ronin> seveas: sorry
[04:26] <Duvel> oonoon, try smbd start;nmbd start
[04:27] <kemik> ronin:  after runing the script ?
[04:27] <Seveas> ronin, and either read the mount documentation or use the script that has been given to you 2 times
[04:27] <Sly> another quicky apt-get_able vnc clients ?
[04:27] <ronin> no, doing a normal mount
[04:27] <Seveas> Sly, there's one installed by default
[04:27] <ronin> seveas: ok
[04:27] <gabriel> sits: i need to tell you this
[04:27] <kemik> ronin:  follow our advice, or do not ask for it :P
[04:27] <Sly> =X
[04:28] <Sly> sly@DarkStar:~$ vnc
[04:28] <Sly> bash: vnc: command not found
[04:28] <Sly> sly@DarkStar:~$ vncviewer
[04:28] <Sly> VNC viewer version 3.3.7 - built Oct 28 2004 23:56:22
[04:28] <Seveas> spike, it's a universe package
[04:28] <ronin> kemik: sorry :( i was too impatient..
[04:28] <Sly> found it =D
[04:28] <oonoon> Duvel : i do it, i get no msg in output
[04:28] <gabriel> sits: i've changed in fstab hda7 to hda6 and now when i run free i get swap free
[04:28] <Seveas> spike, so I filed it on malone
[04:28] <Seveas> which does not allow me to CC you on the bug, you will need a launchpad account for it and subscribe yourself
[04:28] <gabriel> sits: whent for hibernation and works!
[04:28] <sits> gabriel: ah I guess I was wrong then
[04:28] <vtsangwon> Anyone know howto change the gnome menu/panel configuration such as  Application -> Program or change to international characters
[04:28] <oonoon> how can i see the status of samba ?
[04:28] <sits> gabriel: weyhey! Just goes to show - don't listen to me :)
[04:28] <spike> Seveas: yeah, I remembered that, but there's no search function on malone...
[04:29] <Seveas> sec...
[04:29] <spike> ah
[04:29] <ronin> thx for help to all...
[04:29] <spike> I had to click "Bugs"... it was highlited... thought that was the current page...
[04:29] <spike> Seveas: nm
[04:29] <spike> sorry
[04:29] <gabriel> sits: well i just gave it a try. and it works! thanks a lot!
[04:29] <Seveas> spike, it's bug 1742
[04:29] <sits> gabriel: don't thank me - you solved your own problem despite my (wrong) advice
[04:30] <oonoon> Duvel : what does 'smbd start' ?
[04:30] <spike> doh, not even assigned...
[04:30] <Seveas> nope :|
[04:31] <spike> Seveas: what if I work on that? I'm horribly busy but I could allocate a couple of nights to it...
[04:31] <spike> Seveas: what's the procedure?
[04:31] <Seveas> spike, the motu would welcome you and probably will try to persuade you to do more ;)
[04:31] <Alex> Got this annoying problem - Hoary will not load on this box. THe pressed cd, just does not boot.
[04:31] <gabriel> sits: just one more little question. when i add nolapic to menu.lst i manage to shutdown completly the sistem. but at the next reboot i get the nolapic cut out and of course the sistem freezes before actually switching off. any idea of how making change permanent?
[04:32] <carajean206> hello room can anyone help me install ie 6?
[04:32] <Seveas> the 'procedure' is uploading a fixed package to REVU and aataching a comment to the bug. telling someone in #ubuntu-motu when you uploaded it helps too :)
[04:32] <Seveas> If you don't want to do all the hassle, but just fix, send me the patch and I'll do the REVU/MOTU dance for you
[04:33] <thoreauputic> carajean206:  cat ie6 > /dev/null   <---- why ie6 in a linux channel?
[04:33] <carajean206> to install wine
[04:33] <carajean206> but for internet sufing firefox
[04:34] <Seveas> carajean206, you don't need IE6 for wine...
[04:34] <carajean206> i follow the wine cvs install on the forums
[04:34] <carajean206> and it used winetools and that requires the install of ie 6 to go any futher
[04:34] <carajean206> plus i dont want to pay for wine again
[04:34] <kemik> carajean206:  you install ie6 from within winetools
[04:35] <wickedpuppy> pay for wine ? wine is free
[04:35] <carajean206> i know but when i do its says failed cause it cant download the components check internet connections
[04:35] <vtsangwon> anyone know the directory for changing menu under gnome? using ubuntu hoary
[04:35] <carajean206> wine is free since when
[04:35] <carajean206> ?
[04:36] <thoreauputic> carajean206: ? wine is GPL
[04:36] <carajean206> i was paying like 15 for 3 months for wine cedega point to play stuff
[04:36] <thoreauputic> carajean206: do you mean Cedega?
[04:36] <Seveas> carajean206, internet connections does not mean IE6...
[04:36] <ompaul> carajean206, 'apt-get install wine' Wine is free software. The licensing terms are the GNU Lesser General Public License
[04:36] <Seveas> and cedega is not wine
[04:36] <carajean206> will wine let me install games?
[04:36] <mindmedic> carajean206, not many
[04:36] <carajean206> hmm
[04:37] <mindmedic> look at frankscorner.org for some examples
[04:37] <mindmedic> carajean206, what do you want to play?
[04:37] <funkyHat> guys, you know how cedega is available free from the CVS, what liscence is that under?
[04:37] <carajean206> i want to play world of warcraft
[04:37] <wickedpuppy> funkyHat, cedega is not free ...
[04:38] <carajean206> i have played it before using linux now im back with linux
[04:38] <funkyHat> i know
[04:38] <vader1102> I want to use wine to do one certain chat program but this far have been unsuccessful trying it
[04:38] <Alex> All the other releases hvae booted, so I can't work out why Hoary won't.
[04:38] <funkyHat> wickedpuppy, but you can download it from the CVS...
[04:38] <stizoner> mirc? lol
[04:38] <mindmedic> carajean206, i think that only works with cedega..
[04:38] <CookedGryphon> what chat program?
[04:38] <vader1102> Paltalk
[04:38] <mindmedic> funkyHat, but a lot of 3rd party stuff is missing in cvs...
[04:39] <funkyHat> ok. but what liscence is it available under?
[04:39] <stizoner> gaim and all those are way better then paltalk
[04:39] <vader1102> I just have some friends in there that won't convert
[04:39] <carajean206> ok isnt there a cvs version of cedega?
[04:40] <manu_> does some one know how to use skype with esd ?????
[04:40] <funkyHat> carajean206, yes, but that isn't as likely to run WoW as the paid-for version
[04:40] <Alex> Hey - are there any other Ubuntu support channels?
[04:40] <funkyHat> and is harder to set up
[04:40] <mindmedic> funkyHat, dunno, but maybe have a look at their website
[04:40] <manu_> i always have to kill esd to make it work
[04:40] <ompaul> carajean206,  funkyHat, read this for the information you want - it is well beyone the scope of this channel http://www.transgaming.com/terms_of_use.php - they want you to subscribe to their software
[04:40] <manu_> ????
[04:40] <wickedpuppy> Alex, this is THE one
[04:40] <oonoon> 'NT_STATUS_ACESS_DENIED' when i'm printing on a network printer ... what to do?
[04:41] <ompaul> manu_, if you wait a few seconds longer it may die naturally
[04:41] <CookedGryphon> try a different sound daemon than esd, oss or summat
[04:41] <Alex> wickedpuppy: I know that - thought there might be affiliate channels - it just gets a bit drowned out (questions) in here 8)
[04:41] <manu_> esd?
[04:41] <h08817> im a noob and need some help here
[04:41] <manu_> die naturaly
[04:41] <manu_> ?
[04:41] <funkyHat> esd doesn't close itself on its own
[04:41] <manu_> when i wait a the start from skype
[04:41] <manu_> ?
[04:41] <funkyHat> manu_, i've set up all my sound with alsa, it's not too challenging
[04:42] <ompaul> h08817, you are trying to learn to program am I right?
[04:42] <h08817> using ubuntu and was wondering how do i write information in a file then compile it to become executable
[04:42] <h08817> ompaul, yes
[04:42] <mjr> where does evolution store its account information?
[04:42] <manu_> is it better than esd
[04:42] <manu_> ?
[04:42] <carajean206> wow they want me to pay 3 month in advance i doubt i be on linux that long
[04:42] <ompaul> h08817, use the program nano to create and edit files
[04:42] <sn0n> hmmm
[04:42] <h08817> what is that?
[04:42] <h08817> o ok
[04:42] <h08817> duh
[04:43] <Hakon> hello
[04:43] <thoreauputic> h08817: you can use any text editor of course
[04:43] <h08817> ompaul, sudo apt-get install nano?
[04:43] <CookedGryphon> vim rocks
[04:43] <ompaul> h08817,  is it not already on your system?
[04:43] <Alex> If anyone does have an idea about why Hoary won't boot, give me an elbow.
[04:43] <thoreauputic> h08817: it's installed by default
[04:43] <manu_>  other question : how to mount my windows xp folders ?
[04:43] <h08817> thoreauputic, i know but i just don't understand how to get the compiler to make a file exe so i can run it
[04:43] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[04:43] <ubotu> kwrite is better than emacs
[04:44] <Alex> Heya thoreauputic.
[04:44] <h08817> lol
[04:44] <funkyHat> hahaha
[04:44] <manu_>  ?
[04:44] <stizoner> manu_ theres like a 100 topics in the forum about that and in the documentation
[04:44] <manu_> :(
[04:45] <Seveas> manu_: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[04:45] <funkyHat> manu, there is an auto configuration script for mounting windows partitions
[04:45] <ompaul> h08817, you do not need to make exe files -that is a silly convention on some other system you are thinking about - your execuitable file on linux can be anything foo for instance or my.little.execuitable are both legal
[04:45] <thoreauputic> h08817: I assume you just save it as foo.c or whatever then compile that file ...
[04:45] <funkyHat> ooh, there it is ^
[04:45] <ray_> nano is cool for quick editing
[04:45] <Seveas> stizoner, giving people an RTFM is bad practice in this channel...
[04:45] <h08817> ok i'll see what i can do
[04:45] <stizoner> Seveas,  i was actually doing the same thing...  http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html
[04:46] <manu_> :)
[04:46] <manu_> thanks
[04:46] <Seveas> that guide is on crack, way too complicated for too little result
[04:46] <Seveas> (the mounting part that is)
[04:47] <ompaul> h08817, http://www.cs.wm.edu/cspages/computing/tutorial/gpp.html that might be a little easier for you to cope with all the info in one place read that first and then see how you go
[04:47] <Seveas> and it looks way too much like a kubuntu-version of ubuntuguide
[04:47] <stizoner> it puts out for real cheap?
[04:47] <h08817> ok thanks
[04:47] <Seveas> which it probably is
[04:47] <firestorm> Hi. I'm new to Ubuntu. I have apt-get install steghide to try using steghide for JPG files but get the run-time error: steghide not compiled for support with JPEG files. Can ubuntu's package manager deal with such compile-time issues or am I forced to manually download source, compile and circumvent apt?
[04:48] <stizoner> yeah cause kubuntu kicks ass
[04:48] <Seveas> stizoner, well, you should not be kubuntu-specific in here, there's #kubuntu for that
[04:48] <stizoner> there both exactly the same
[04:48] <stizoner> except gnome and kde
[04:48] <Seveas> that's quite a difference...
[04:48] <DonL> I have a question about multipe kernel headers
[04:48] <wareagle> hi, i am very new to computers, however do not want to use any win products .  Is ubuntu an OS, and if so is it user frindley?
[04:48] <DonL> multiple
[04:48] <amichai> anyon here use skype?
[04:48] <funkyHat> does anyone have the pastebin script from paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[04:48] <ompaul> stizoner, very different things those two
[04:48] <Seveas> firestorm, looking at it
[04:48] <smurfix> firestorm: looks like a packaging bug -- report a bug, and compile from source in the meantime
[04:49] <Seveas> funkyHat, yes, I have :)
[04:49] <Seveas> (since I wrote it)
[04:49] <ompaul> amichai, I have been known to
[04:49] <funkyHat> hehehe
[04:49] <funkyHat> i can't get it to run properly :(
[04:49] <amichai> ompaul: with gnome?
[04:49] <firestorm> smurfix: thanks
[04:49] <ompaul> amichai, yes
[04:49] <Seveas> funkyHat, what's the prob?
[04:49] <funkyHat> i did sudo ./pastebin --install
[04:49] <funkyHat> when i do pastebin, or pastebin --help it just hangs
[04:50] <Seveas> it should :)
[04:50] <Seveas> there is no --help
[04:50] <funkyHat> ok
[04:50] <funkyHat> lol
[04:50] <amichai> ompaul: can u help me? i cant get the right sound settings, i can her the other person but they can hear me. i got it working before.
[04:50] <Seveas> and you should simply pipe output to it
[04:50] <thoreauputic> wareagle: Ubuntu is a distribution of GNU?Linux, which is indeed an operating system
[04:50] <DonL> Some time ago I installed the amd specific K7 kernel, and I just noticed today when I received an update from Ubuntu that it updated the 386 headers and the K7 ones. Is there a problem having both?
[04:50] <amichai> ompaul: they cant hear me
[04:50] <funkyHat> well i've made a ~/.pastebinrc
[04:50] <ompaul> amichai, had it working on ubuntu?
[04:50] <Seveas> DonL, no
[04:50] <amichai> ompaul: yes
[04:50] <thoreauputic> *GNU/Linux
[04:50] <bur[n] er> funkyHat: blah > blah.txt
[04:50] <grogoreo> hi
[04:50] <Seveas> funkyHat, some_command with params | pastebin
[04:50] <DonL> Seveas, ok. Thanks. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?
[04:50] <funkyHat> so it would be for example cat file.txt > pastebin
[04:50] <kevor> no funkyHat always do >>, because > clears the whole txtfile
[04:51] <Seveas> well, having both installed is useless :)
[04:51] <amichai> ompaul: what r ur setting in the sound manager?
[04:51] <funkyHat> :S
[04:51] <funkyHat> so should i do >> or | ?
[04:51] <ompaul> amichai, first have you any other sounds playing?
[04:51] <spola> hahahaha gentoo is horrible
[04:51] <DonL> What all can I uninstall then to lighten it up then?
[04:51] <kevor> depends, what do you wana do?
[04:51] <funkyHat> or doesn't it matter?
[04:51] <amichai> ompaul: no
[04:51] <ompaul> amichai, first should have been are you running hoary?
[04:51] <amichai> ompaul: yes
[04:51] <Seveas> funkyHat, |
[04:51] <Seveas> >> redirects to a file
[04:51] <Seveas> | to a new command
[04:51] <ompaul> amichai, then the problem is elsewhere
[04:52] <grogoreo> I've plugged in an old Epson GT8500 scanner into my parrelle port on my computer (even though it came with a bi-derectional card (but in ISA format not PCI)) but have changed, in my BIOS, to bi-directional. How do i firstly install it or use it? I have sane installed
[04:52] <amichai> ompaul: i got it running twice before by turning off LFE or something, but not now
[04:52] <funkyHat> ok :) thanks
[04:52] <amichai> ompaul: mic?
[04:52] <carajean206> has anyone tried the cvs cedega version?
[04:52] <CookedGryphon> Is it possible to get Rhythmbox to recognise wma files? cos i am reading my media off my old XP partition and can't be bothered converting them, if not, what program can i get that will recognise them?
[04:52] <ray_> ive got the .deb
[04:52] <ompaul> amichai, you have no other audio working, as that is how I read what you already told me
[04:52] <h08817> ompaul, i don't know
[04:52] <ray_> CookedGryphon: do you have w32codecs
[04:52] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, afaik: no
[04:53] <h08817> ompaul, this seems to be hard it doesn't even work right
[04:53] <Alex> Right, I think I'm going to install Warty and upgrade.
[04:53] <amichai> ompaul: right should i use esd or alsa
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> i cannot kill this process `14550 ?        00:00:01 smbiod` when i sudo killall smbiod, and when i kill 14550, it remains in `ps -A`
[04:53] <h08817> ompaul, i tried the plain first program and it just crashes why i use g++ i guess there is a problem in the code
[04:53] <Seveas> amichai, esd
[04:53] <ompaul> h08817, what seems hard? what doesn't work right?
[04:53] <h08817> ompaul, the hello world one
[04:53] <CookedGryphon> can i get the w32 codecs from ubuntu's package manager/
[04:54] <funkyHat> amichai, esd unless it causes you any problems, it's fine for most people
[04:54] <ablyss> EasterSunshine, try kill -9 14550
[04:54] <ompaul> h08817, let me look at it
[04:54] <funkyHat> not for me because i have 2 soundcards and other odd requirements ;P
[04:54] <CookedGryphon> i think i have all the gstreamer codec packages
[04:54] <h08817> !pastebin
[04:54] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:55] <raven3x7> !tell CookedGryphon about extras
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: thx, the process is gone now, but my original problem was that some process is using my mounted smbfs so ican't unmount it
[04:55] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, yes you can get the windows codecs from synaptic, you may have to add extra repositories though
[04:55] <smurfix> EasterSunshine: that's a kernel process. Why would you want to kill it?
[04:55] <ompaul> h08817, paste the code into pastebin and give us the url
[04:55] <CookedGryphon> ...? what repositories?
[04:55] <CookedGryphon> what's the package name i'm looking for?
[04:55] <ompaul> amichai, yes, alsa is good
[04:55] <ablyss> EasterSunshine, probably Gnome.. not uncommon
[04:56] <wickedpuppy> !repositories
[04:56] <ubotu> methinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:56] <raven3x7>  CookedGryphon w32codecs if you dont have extras you wont see it
[04:56] <smurfix> EasterSunshine: sudo fuser -m /mount/point ?
[04:56] <CookedGryphon> kk
[04:56] <DonL> !headers
[04:57] <ubotu> DonL: Are you smoking crack?
[04:57] <mdke> i've installed breezy on one of my servers but can't connect to it via sftp in nautilus. Does anyone know why this might be?
[04:57] <DonL> haha
[04:57] <h08817> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1470
[04:57] <Seveas> mdke, did you install openssh-server on it?
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: i am on kde, gnome is not even installed
[04:57] <alex__> hey all
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> smurfix: thx, but fuser locks up
[04:58] <mdke> Seveas, yes i connect fine in the terminal
[04:58] <DonL> Back later...
[04:58] <mdke> Seveas, only nautilus doesn't seem to work
[04:58] <alex__> i am trying to encrypt my /home, /var, and /tmp folders. all of those folders are under LVM2 control
[04:58] <alex__> i used cryptsetup to encrypt them
[04:58] <Simian> i've looked at the ubuntu wiki for how to automaticly start programs when gnome starts but had no luck
[04:58] <alex__> and everything's fine
[04:58] <zero_> is there some german irc channel?
[04:58] <Simian> can anyone point me in the right direction
[04:58] <raven3x7> #ubuntu-de
[04:58] <alex__> however i am having trouble mounting the directories at boot
[04:58] <zero_> thx
[04:59] <ray_> Simian: it is easy
[04:59] <Seveas> mdke, hmm, sup-process sftp enabled in sshd.conf?
[04:59] <wickedpuppy> h08817, try iostream ... no ,h
[04:59] <alex__> see, the passphrase is stored on a usb stick that is automatically mounted at boot
[04:59] <mdke> Seveas, i'll have a look
[04:59] <smurfix> EasterSunshine: Ouch -- that shouldn't happen. Is your smb server dead? Does "umount -f /mount/point" work?
[04:59] <ray_> Simian: go into system administration and go into sessions
[04:59] <amichai> q
[04:59] <amichai> uit
[04:59] <Simian> ok
[04:59] <raven3x7> h08817 .h is c style
[04:59] <ray_> Simian: add the program you want to start
[05:00] <EasterSunshine> smurfix: yes, the server went off last night, and it is even back on today
[05:00] <zwnj> i added mod-ssl to mods-enable, but i cannot connect to https://localhost:80/ yet.  what's the problem?
[05:00] <EasterSunshine> smurfix: umount -f still complains that the filesystem is busy
[05:00] <mdke> Seveas, yes looks like it
[05:00] <mdke> Subsystemsftp/usr/lib/misc/sftp-server
[05:00] <Simian> thanks ray_
[05:01] <ray_> Simian: no prob........what is the app you want to start
[05:01] <Seveas> hmm, sftp from terminal works too?
[05:01] <Simian> beagle
[05:01] <ablyss> EasterSunshine, Gnome, KDE, or others desktop UI will sometimes cause that. restarting GDM or KDM might resolve the problem.
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> zwnj, have you restarted apache?
[05:01] <Simian> firestarter
[05:01] <mdke> Seveas, no, that must be the problem I guess
[05:01] <mdke> Request for subsystem 'sftp' failed on channel 0
[05:02] <vader1102> This afternoon I have to install Windows Server 2003 to complete my Network + course......ewwwwwwwww
[05:02] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: do you suggest killall kdm?
[05:02] <ompaul> h08817, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1473
[05:02] <ray_> vader1102: yeah ive been there done that
[05:02] <ablyss> EasterSunshine, no no, sudo /etc/init.t/gdm restart
[05:02] <ray_> vader1102: where are you from?
[05:02] <vader1102> and then they want me to get my server 2003 cert too
[05:03] <vader1102> Ont Canada
[05:03] <vader1102> you?
[05:03] <ray_> cool
[05:03] <ray_> New Hampshire
[05:03] <ray_> not too far
[05:03] <vader1102> awesome
[05:03] <cheleb> zwnj: try https://localhost:443
[05:04] <zwnj> wickedpuppy: of course ;)
[05:04] <wickedpuppy> zwnj, try nmap localhost ... see if you get https
[05:04] <h08817> ompaul, what is the -o switch for?
[05:04] <zwnj> cheleb: i added "Listen 443" to ports and tried https://localhost too
[05:04] <h08817> ompaul, for g++
[05:04] <ompaul> h08817, to create output the file name
[05:05] <spola> i get a lot of gzip errors when i try to apt-get update, also when i try to upgrade often my downloads will fail in the middle (never happens when i download far bigger "stuff") ... what's the up with that?
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> h08817, try g++ -o prog_name prog_name.cpp
[05:05] <mdke> Seveas, might be a breezy bug i guess, because it looks like it is setup right, although i'm no expert on ssh
[05:05] <Seveas> mdke, me neither, I was just summing up possible points of failure
[05:05] <ray_> spola: paste your sourceslist in #flood
[05:06] <zwnj> there's no problem with http over 80 and 443, but https doesn't work on both of them
[05:06] <Seveas> mdke, does /usr/lib/misc/sftp-server exist?
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> zwnj, have you tried nmap ?
[05:06] <zwnj> wickedpuppy: yes, 443 is open
[05:06] <ompaul> h08817, you can also join #c++ and they have a list of helpful urls in the topic for programming C++
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> oh hmms
[05:06] <wickedpuppy> ah
[05:06] <nubbe> How do I make an irc-link in FF open in an existing x-chat window?
[05:06] <Seveas> mdke, in hoary it is just /usr/lib/sftp-server
[05:06] <mdke> Seveas, you're right!
[05:07] <mdke> Seveas, i'll try changing it
[05:07] <Seveas> mdke, slocate sftp-server :)
[05:07] <oonoon> someone knows samba well here?
[05:07] <ray_> whats the diff between locate and slocate
[05:07] <mdke> Seveas, it's in the same place as hoary
[05:07] <carajean206> ok i got another question when i see screenshots of other peoples desktops i see they have weather apps and mem usage stuff on it how do i get that?
[05:08] <Seveas> mdke, well, you found the problem then :)
[05:08] <Seveas> please file the bug
[05:08] <ray_> carajean206: right click on the panel....click add app
[05:08] <spola> when using a mirror, should i use something like ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ubuntu.com/ (which has two subdirectories: releases & ubuntu) or do i have to add the .../ubuntu? (the ubuntu dir has about 5 dirs .. misc pool projects etc...) and use ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/?
[05:09] <carajean206> and this will put those tranparent ones on my desktop?
[05:09] <mdke> Seveas, notabug ;) I accidentally used a sarge sshd_config file
[05:09] <cheleb> carajean206: apt-get install gdesklets
[05:09] <ray_> carajean206: are you using gnome
[05:09] <mdke> Seveas, have amended the address and works now
[05:09] <carajean206> ok i will try that
[05:09] <carajean206> yes i am
[05:10] <carajean206> ok i apt desklets
[05:10] <mdke> thanks Seveas
[05:10] <CookedGryphon> okay, still can't dl the w32 codecs, have added all the repositories mentioned but i can't find it
[05:10] <carajean206> now what?  the stuff is all messed up
[05:11] <ray_> messed up how
[05:11] <ray_> CookedGryphon: u added the backports.........
[05:11] <oonoon> i've got weird problems with samba
[05:11] <carajean206> um for like some of them i get wierd like letters
[05:11] <oonoon> i can crash it, allowing me to stop it but not to start it again
[05:11] <CookedGryphon> the backports repository?
[05:11] <ray_> CookedGryphon: its w32codecs        with no space
[05:11] <BearyB> hi everyone  ;)
[05:11] <CookedGryphon> yeah
[05:11] <oonoon> i must completely remove it and then reinstalling and then it works
[05:12] <CookedGryphon> lol i know
[05:12] <carajean206> i cant drag any of the stuff to the desktop
[05:12] <ray_> CookedGryphon: paste your sources.list in #flood
[05:12] <EasterSunshine> okay who was it that made me restart kdm?
[05:12] <ray_> no me
[05:12] <ablyss> me
[05:12] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: thx, it worked
[05:12] <carajean206> ok now how to get desklet working?
[05:12] <spola> omg i noticed a horribly confusing translation error when using apt-get !! is there anyone i could write about this?
[05:13] <ablyss> yvw
[05:13] <EasterSunshine> ablyss: however...it has eliminated my godly aim uptime and dcc trasnfers
[05:13] <EasterSunshine> :)
[05:13] <ablyss> hehehe
[05:13] <ray_> EasterSunshine: what was your aim uptime?
[05:14] <EasterSunshine> ray_: about 50 days, but i can understand if you have more, its godly compare to the other ppl on my buddy list
[05:14] <ray_> EasterSunshine: no i dont have more......most i ever had was like 17 days
[05:14] <michi> hello, how can i control the mouse sensivity for my usb mouse?
[05:14] <CookedGryphon> ray : done
[05:14] <funkyHat> CookedGryphon, the planetmirror mirror of extras is broken
[05:15] <ompaul> spola, was it apt-get that had the problem or some application? register your bug on Malone
[05:15] <ray_> CookedGryphon: did you apt-get update
[05:15] <cheleb> carajean206: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31928&highlight=howto+gdesklets
[05:15] <oonoon> i've got the feeling with linux that almost every error become irreversible, and deteriorate the quality and the stability of the environnement
[05:15] <ray_> CookedGryphon: the backports repo is commented out in your sources.list
[05:16] <ray_> CookedGryphon: remove the # before the backports
[05:16] <CookedGryphon> lol so it is
[05:16] <Seveas> oonoon, that's with windows :)
[05:16] <spola> it said: after unpacking [the downloaded programs]  an additional XXX meg will be *freed* on your harddrive so maybe it's not as bad as i put it first but im still gonna get to malone about it
[05:16] <Seveas> on linux errors are easier to resolve in my experience
[05:16] <CookedGryphon> that's cos i copied the list direct from the link ubotu sent me
[05:16] <CookedGryphon> without looking what it said
[05:16] <spola> the dutch translation is horrible actually
[05:16] <dalamar> some people get lucky and install error free too heh
[05:16] <LinuxJones> oonoon, what makes you say something like that ?
[05:17] <asfra> hi, I have a problem with a process called gnome-video-thu, frequently it uses almost all my memory and causes the system to stall if I don't shut it down. What does this process do?
[05:17] <kevor> lets lynch him :P
[05:17] <ompaul> kevor, wheres the humanity in that?
[05:17] <EasterSunshine> kevor: i think it was this channel where we lynched someone using mirc...he wasn't running it with wine
[05:17] <kevor> oh crap, #ubuntu :P
[05:18] <kevor> or fun too: root@hostname
[05:18] <ompaul> hehe
[05:18] <kevor> oonoon: all those settings that are reversable take down the speed of the OS :)
[05:19] <oonoon> LinuxJones : my stuff with nvidia card and samba for network
[05:19] <kevor> no problem with samba. i love it
[05:19] <carajean206> ok guys im really tired of this ownership stuff and being root can anyone tell me how to take it off. i cant even create new folders?
[05:19] <snorks> !ati
[05:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:19] <oonoon> LinuxJones : things work sometimes, and then it doesn't anymore for an unknown reason, and then i must start everything from the beginning and it works again, but it's quite tiring to reinstall everything everytime
[05:19] <kevor> smbmount //computername/user password=pass user=user gid=me uid=me
[05:19] <CookedGryphon> carajean206: log in as root
[05:19] <kemik> carajean206:  "sudo chmod -R a+rwx /*" <- tho it's highly not recommended
[05:20] <kevor> oh and a mountpoint in there somewhwere :P
[05:20] <asfra> hi, I have a problem with a process called gnome-video-thu, frequently it uses almost all my memory and causes the system to stall if I don't shut it down. What does this process do and is it a normal behavior?
[05:20] <ray_> carajean206: where are you trying to create a folder...........never log in as root
[05:20] <CookedGryphon> surely it would b easier to log in as root while installing then go back
[05:20] <Seveas> asfra, gnome-video-thumbnailer is the full name
[05:20] <CookedGryphon> fine then, sudo everything
[05:20] <carajean206> im tryin to creat it in /home/carajean
[05:20] <kemik> carajean206:  or "sudo -s" "sudo su" or just use "sudo" prefixed
[05:20] <dalamar> the nvidia thing should be easy as well, im using an ancient nvidia card and the drivers work fine for me
[05:20] <oonoon> Seveas: i hoped it wouldn't be so with linux, indeed, everytime i modify something i make backup from the original files and it doesn't seem to be enough, ;when installing rep, i don't know how many things are out of control and deeply modifying the system without my permission
[05:21] <CookedGryphon> logging in as root is fine if ure not an imbecile
[05:21] <carajean206> going through the file system
[05:21] <ray_> carajean206: oh so you must be root already
[05:21] <asfra> Seveas: ok, does it create thumbnails?
[05:21] <carajean206> well i am
[05:21] <wickedpuppy> anyone here knows how to rar ?
[05:21] <oonoon> Seveas:it's not that far of the windows way of life
[05:21] <Seveas> asfra, yes
[05:21] <carajean206> if i was i could make the folder but it says i dont have permission
[05:21] <kemik> carajean206:  "ls -lha" will let you see which user/group is owner and which filepermissions are set
[05:21] <Seveas> oonoon, that has not been my experience and i fiddle around a lot with (ub)installing packages
[05:21] <dalamar> sudo mkdir
[05:22] <kemik> carajean206:  and you really should readup about filepermissions/owners etc
[05:22] <asfra> Seveas: ok, thanks.. but anyway, it uses alot of memory and almost no CPU?
[05:22] <Seveas> asfra, it should run only for a few milliseconds...
[05:22] <Seveas> otherwise it is stuck somewhere and should be killed
[05:22] <CookedGryphon> carajean: sudo chmod a+rwx <directory>
[05:22] <kemik> Seveas:  tried compiling rhythmbox 0.9.0 from source?
[05:22] <carajean206> thanks that worked
[05:23] <CookedGryphon> which one>/
[05:23] <Seveas> kemik, hehe, no :)
[05:23] <kemik> carajean206:  well, doing "sudo mkdir" is perhaps not what you want, since now you've created yet another "root" folder in your homedirectory
[05:23] <CookedGryphon> ?*
[05:23] <ray_> YUP
[05:23] <dalamar> you should be able to create any dir in your home directory without sudo
[05:24] <dalamar> its elsewhere in the filesystem it should be needed
[05:24] <kevor> carajean206: when you use sudo, be sure what ur doing, don't go creating maps/removing maps or files with sudo
[05:24] <oonoon> Seveas: u don't believe pieces of old removed package still remain somewhere?
[05:24] <ompaul> ACTION points at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=samba&Title=&Description=&created%3Adate=1970%2F02%2F01+00%3A00%3A00+GMT&created_usage=range%3Amin&pt_toggle=%23&portal_type%3Alist=AmazonItem&portal_type%3Alist=Discussion+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Document&portal_type%3Alist=Event&portal_type%3Alist=Favorite&portal_type%3Alist=File&portal_type%3Alist=Folder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenter&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterDefin
[05:25] <ompaul> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1475 <-- should have read that
[05:25] <Seveas> oonoon, if you don't purge them they will remain...
[05:25] <ompaul> that was the result of my search for samba
[05:25] <kevor> oonoon: IF there are pieces left, they are not loaded anymore, like windows loads every  DLL it's comes across. So the speed is not downgraded by the amount of packages installed
[05:25] <oonoon> Seveas: how do u purge them?
[05:25] <Seveas> sudo aptitude purge $package
[05:25] <Seveas> sudo apt-get remove --purge $package
[05:26] <Seveas> (either one)
[05:26] <Seveas> or 'mark for complete removal' in synaptic
[05:26] <kevor> Seveas: apt-get remove package only removes that exact package?
[05:26] <Seveas> or dpkg -P
[05:26] <Seveas> kevor, yes
[05:26] <Seveas> kevor, well, packages that depend on it will be removed too
[05:26] <kemik> even M$ has confessed that windows systems go sluggish with time
[05:26] <Seveas> but that's logical :)
[05:26] <BodaciousB> does anyone know when breezy badger is going to be released?
[05:26] <kevor> hmm
[05:26] <Seveas> oct. 13
[05:26] <kemik> was an article on Ars about windowsvista =)
[05:26] <Seveas> BodaciousB: A new Ubuntu version is released every six months (in april and october). Each release is supported for at least 18 months with security updates.
[05:27] <kevor> kemik: would be stupid to say otherwize, they would be lying
[05:27] <kemik> BodaciousB:  you've got that scripted ? =)
[05:27] <BodaciousB> Seveas, thanks, i gues ill go ahead and reformat now then =)
[05:27] <Seveas> VISTA Viruses Insecurities Spyware Trojans Adware
[05:27] <kemik> heh
[05:27] <kemik> well, cant really blame MS for all of those
[05:27] <CookedGryphon> oct 13, ace i'll b at uni then with a decent internet connection so it won't take 5 days to dl
[05:27] <ompaul> Seveas, that is nice :)
[05:27] <kemik> spyware/trojans/adware/viruses comes with being the major player i guess
[05:28] <Seveas> kemik,
[05:28] <Seveas> no
[05:28] <kevor> Seveas: if there will ever be spyware for linux, running Firefox as another user will totally be secure VS spyware?
[05:28] <Seveas> it's becuae windows is inherently less secure...
[05:28] <hopeng> when breezy out, will hoary user can ezly update it to breezy without loosing any settings ?
[05:28] <Seveas> hopeng, there is a one-line upgrade possible :)
[05:28] <hopeng> what is one-line Seveas ?
[05:28] <Seveas> that it takes one linr in the terminal
[05:28] <Seveas> lene*
[05:28] <Seveas> line*
[05:28] <Seveas> dang :|
[05:29] <CookedGryphon> that's a point, is there any way i could install this OS to a laptop, keeping all my settings wihtout having to spend ages doing everytihgnagain?
[05:29] <kemik> Seveas:  i think that's not really a *fact* but merely your open-source opinion :)
[05:29] <hopeng> wow, thx for making this oneline feature
[05:29] <EasterSunshine> hopeng: you can already upgrade, it your /etc/apt/sources.list, replace hoary with breezy and sudo-apt-get update, or upgrade, one of those
[05:29] <dalamar> i love when your on the web and some popup that looks like a system message comes up saying 'you need a registry clean!' thats funny  to me ;) I think haha spamming bastards, I have no registry!
[05:29] <kevor> CookedGryphon: just backup ur homedir, all usersettings are stored there
[05:29] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, ubuntu never has to be reinstalled if you don't do stupid things like testing a development version too early :)
[05:29] <EasterSunshine> hopeng: but like everyone advises against upgrading to breezy
[05:29] <kemik> Breezy isnt stable
[05:29] <Seveas> dalamar, wrong
[05:29] <Seveas> you have a registry
[05:29] <kemik> so success is not granted
[05:30] <hopeng> yes EasterSunshine, i take the advice too, i wont upgrade it until oct 13
[05:30] <dalamar> not like what they are talking about though
[05:30] <|OverKiLL|> How I Can Write Files To NTFS From UBUNTU ?
[05:30] <Seveas> true :)
[05:30] <Seveas> |OverKiLL|, not.
[05:30] <ray_> will kubuntu be released the same time as ubuntu
[05:30] <kemik> |OverKiLL|:  it's not recommended
[05:30] <Seveas> ray_, yes, and edubuntu too
[05:30] <|OverKiLL|> :(
[05:30] <CookedGryphon> seveas + kevor: i mean when i get a new computer, laptop, and i want to keep all my packages that i've installed cos i have a slow internet connection n can't b bothered dling them again
[05:30] <kemik> |OverKiLL|:  take a look at "Captive" it will let you write, but i dont think it's an easy install
[05:30] <hopeng> issit possible to install kde in this gnome ?
[05:30] <EasterSunshine> hopeng: oct 13 is almost my birthday so i think of breezy as my birthday present, not to be conceited and think it was made for me, but you know what i mean
[05:30] <tyler_> someone help me to install k3b
[05:30] <snorks> Does anyone here use a Logitech MX700 mouse?
[05:31] <kevor> CookedGryphon: apt-get has a storage dir for all .debs, dunno where it is, but you could backup that dir
[05:31] <funkyHat> tyler, sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:31] <hopeng> EasterSunshine LOL, its not for u :p
[05:31] <pirast> tyler: sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:31] <wickedpuppy> tyler_, try sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:31] <Seveas> hopeng, you can have both gnome and kde installed at the same time, the recommended way is installing the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[05:31] <funkyHat> * tyler_
[05:31] <ray_> hopeng: yup.........sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:31] <EasterSunshine> hopeng: you don't install kde in gnome, they are both different windows managers
[05:31] <dalamar> wow look at that support! ;)
[05:31] <tyler_> this command
[05:31] <hopeng> wtf ill get it now!
[05:31] <tyler_> gime me error
[05:31] <funkyHat> what was the error?
[05:31] <pirast> which error?
[05:31] <kemik> Seveas:  if i want to run QT applications in Gnome, what's the magic i need?
[05:31] <EasterSunshine> kemik: kde libs?
[05:31] <ompaul> |OverKiLL|, or get some program that supports ext3 from within Windows, ohh look you have freedom to deal with Linux but it appears that you do not have freedom to work the other way
[05:31] <pirast> nothing..
[05:32] <pirast> apt installs the magic
[05:32] <Seveas> kemik, installing them :)
[05:32] <dalamar> like when you install k3b in gnomew it installs all the qt libs etc you need
[05:32] <|OverKiLL|> I Need Tutorial How Configure Lilo!!
[05:32] <tyler_> other packets
[05:32] <Seveas> |OverKiLL|, drop the caps...
[05:32] <funkyHat> ompaul, there is an installable driver for ext2/3 for windows NT, it's read-only though
[05:32] <tyler_> not installed
[05:32] <|OverKiLL|> ok
[05:32] <snorks> whats the channelname of the amd64 version of ubuntu_
[05:32] <kemik> EasterSunshine:  mmh.. k guess i'll see with all broken dependencies :)
[05:32] <snorks> ?
[05:32] <hopeng> if adobe make photoshop in linux, ill wipe out my windows partition for sure
[05:32] <kemik> !lilp
[05:32] <ubotu> Not a clue, kemik
[05:32] <kemik> !lilo
[05:32] <ubotu> kemik: I don't know
[05:32] <wickedpuppy> hopeng, you can install photoshop in linux ...
[05:33] <|OverKiLL|> !lilo
[05:33] <dubnium> are sources down at the moment, us.archive.ubuntu.com? i can't install packages at the moment
[05:33] <kemik> hopeng:  use Wine and install PS
[05:33] <pirast> hopeng, with qemu and kqemu you can run windows in linux
[05:33] <snorks> isn't gimp a good rival?
[05:33] <tyler_> someone can pass me his sources.list
[05:33] <tyler_> ?
[05:33] <kemik> snorks:  yeah, but it's not PS... :)
[05:33] <DJ_Mirage> snorks, no it isnt, it lacks certain functionality
[05:33] <kevor> hopeng: use gimp, it has almost al lthe functionalities of PS
[05:33] <kemik> !sources
[05:33] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:33] <pirast> hopeng and you can use crossover x office, as i know wine is not nice for running ps
[05:33] <kemik> there you go tyler_
[05:33] <snorks> what is the name of the ubuntuamd64 #channel?
[05:34] <oonoon> when i connect another user through samba, it doesn't appear with finger command
[05:34] <pirast> I dont know if there is one
[05:34] <Seveas> snorks, #ubuntu
[05:34] <EasterSunshine> snorks: i think it is #ubuntu
[05:34] <hopeng> i tried installing photoshop 7 using wine, cedega, crossoveroffice, but it has a minor bug, for ex: u cant drag the brush, coz the 'ink' won't come out.
[05:34] <|OverKiLL|> i need lilo configuration tutorial...
[05:34] <pirast> mom
[05:34] <Seveas> |OverKiLL|, www.tldp.org has one iirc
[05:34] <pirast> you could trie qemu qith kqemu
[05:34] <Seveas> but why use lilo?
[05:34] <hopeng> kevor, im having real trouble usign gimp. have to start all over again
[05:34] <pirast> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513&page=1&highlight=qemu+kqemu
[05:34] <ompaul> |OverKiLL|, you should have a look at grub
[05:35] <|OverKiLL|> I Can't install grub
[05:35] <dubnium>  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.151). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: 82.211.81.151 80]    can anyone tell me if they are having trouble with an apt-get update?
[05:35] <|OverKiLL|> fatal error
[05:35] <pirast> you should install kqemu, without kqemu the performance is bad
[05:35] <Seveas> dubnium, try another mirror until the server is back up
[05:35] <kevor> hopeng: i did too, but you will notice most Icons are the same, and when you find the names for the stuff you want, it'll suit you real fine real fast
[05:35] <pirast> you could sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <pirast> the delete the .us
[05:35] <pirast> us.
[05:35] <dubnium> i'll just wait, im install mplayer and there too many required packages
[05:36] <ompaul> dubnium, ie. is fast - very very fast sits in heanet.ie
[05:36] <smurfix> dubnium: works from here
[05:36] <smurfix> so either they're back up or you have a broken proxy. ;-)
[05:36] <dubnium> hmm
[05:36] <hopeng> kevor, one thing i hate the most is i usualy pressed spacebar to move the area in PS, annd this & other shortcut isnt the same in gimp :(
[05:37] <CookedGryphon> I still can't get w32 codecs, and when i try compile xmms it comes up with some glib error, and it won't dl from synaptic, mplayer play s the files but i can't get the gui bit to work so can#'t build up a library of my tracks, and it cuts out the ding on gaim when tis playing and... bugger this, i'm oging outside, real world n all that
[05:37] <kevor> get used to it :P
[05:38] <hopeng> thats the harddest part
[05:38] <kevor> hopeng: you will notice gimp is much faster
[05:38] <hopeng> :(
[05:38] <tyler_> no
[05:38] <hopeng> kevor, major problem is my officemate using PS CS...
[05:38] <tyler_> dependence
[05:38] <tyler_> of other packets
[05:38] <kevor> funny, a guy at work had a picture, he was going to "paint shop"
[05:39] <kevor> so i watched, he did infact launced MSPAINT and started tweaking the pictuer
[05:39] <kevor> hehehe
[05:39] <funkyHat> tyler_, read the questions carefully and input a 'y' to say yes to installing it
[05:39] <tyler_> funkyhat
[05:39] <kevor> hopeng: isn't there a crossprogram format that supports layers?
[05:40] <smurfix> ompaul: "fast" depends on where you are. For dubnium, a server in Ireland might not be a good choice, even if you and me can get to it fast.
[05:40] <tyler_> please visit
[05:40] <tyler_> http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1476
[05:40] <tyler_> there is my error
[05:40] <funkyHat> can you pastebin from the apt-get command?
[05:40] <tyler_> yes
[05:40] <dubnium> whats another mirror?
[05:41] <tyler_> this
[05:41] <tyler_> is
[05:41] <tyler_> apt-get install k3b
[05:41] <smurfix> dubnium: us1.archive.ubuntu.com for instance
[05:41] <kevor> funkyHat: what do you mean with that? >>'ing it to a txtfile and putting it on pastebin? (just curious)
[05:41] <dalamar> how do you change file association in gnome? ie using something other than totem to play movies?
[05:41] <smurfix> dubnium: sorry, us2
[05:42] <smurfix> us1 == us
[05:42] <funkyHat> kevor, it's | not >>, and there is a link to the script i was talking about on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:42] <ompaul> smurfix true, but always worth a try
[05:42] <kevor> oh cewl, nice
[05:42] <dubnium> do i need to comment out the others, or just leave them alone?
[05:43] <funkyHat> kevor, save 'pastebin' in your ~, do sudo ./pastebin --install
[05:43] <dubnium> smurfix, and thats http not ftp correct?
[05:43] <funkyHat> and read the file too, instructions on how to save settings for it are there
[05:44] <smurfix> dubnium: I just tested http, but both should work
[05:44] <funkyHat> dalamar, right click on a file of the type in question, click properties, and click the 'open with' tab
[05:44] <smurfix> generally http is (a) faster and (b) doesn't have firewall issues
[05:46] <kevor> funkyHat: i have no use of that script, but it's nice
[05:46] <dalamar> funkyHat, thank you, will that associate all of say .avi the same way?
[05:46] <funkyHat> yes
[05:46] <dalamar> nice
[05:46] <funkyHat> :)
[05:47] <dalamar> i have troubles with totem locking on me if i try to move it for some reason, going to use xine instead
[05:47] <ray_> xine is cool
[05:47] <dubnium> ...hmm having problems connect to us2 as well... the both stop around 60%
[05:47] <dalamar> kind of an older version in the repos but still works fine
[05:47] <dubnium> probably my shitty router
[05:47] <carajean206> hey guys how to forcefully eject my cd-rom drive?
[05:48] <dalamar> sudo umount /dev/cdrom
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> carajean206: you have to unmount it first
[05:48] <carajean206> ok i unmounted it
[05:48] <dalamar> now just hit your eject button
[05:48] <wickedpuppy> carajean206, if you eject it by right clicking on the icon on the desktop ... it will unmount and eject both at the same time
[05:49] <smurfix> carajean206: or use the handy "eject" command ;-)
[05:49] <carajean206> oohh cool thanks
[05:49] <somedude_> Hey!
[05:50] <oonoon> when i modify a file, i see the same file with ~ that appears ; where does it come from ?
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> its backup file
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> emacs usually does it
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> :P
[05:50] <dalamar> another quick question, when I boot and get to my login screen, the nvidia logo and the login screen itself are offset to the right like a good inch or so and its just black on the left, but when X loads everything is on the screen fine .. can I fix this somehow?
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> dalamar, i got the same problem as you ... i got black space on left and right
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> if you found the answer pls tell me too :P
[05:51] <miq> hi
[05:51] <dalamar> yeah like its not a big deal it just seems wierd that the desktop loads fine but the login is wacked out
[05:51] <Grat> ellow miq
[05:51] <funkyHat> dalamar, it's not really, they are completely separate programs
[05:52] <miq> i recently installed ubuntu on two brand-new athlon64 machines (the x86 version)
[05:52] <dalamar> ah okay
[05:52] <miq> and faced the one problem:
[05:52] <somedude_> i cant se any text in the "black boxes" on this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba using Firefox (winxp).. ??? Is it me or the webmaster?
[05:52] <funkyHat> actually dalamar, reading your problem, that is a bit strange...
[05:52] <miq> dma access could not be enabled for the ide-devices
[05:53] <miq> one board had an nforce4 the other an via K800 or something chipset
[05:53] <dalamar> well its done it before and after the nvidia drivers were installed and that didnt seem to change anything
[05:53] <miq> the "fix" for my nforce4 machine was to compile the amd-ide driver *into* the kernel
[05:54] <miq> and not using it as a module
[05:54] <miq> so it *could* be a kernel bug
[05:54] <miq> is something like that known?
[05:54] <miq> i found one or two similar hints on the net
[05:55] <funkyHat> miq, did you say you were using the x86 version? not the x86-64 version?
[05:55] <funkyHat> _that_ could be the bug ;)
[05:55] <miq> well, athlon64 are quite able to run 32-bit OSes
[05:56] <funkyHat> yes, but why should ubuntu 32 bit be configured to work correctly on a 64 bit machine, when there is a 64 bit version available?
[05:56] <kevor> but at same performance as a 32-bit system ;)
[05:56] <miq> and i want to run the 32bit one because some crucial stuff like w32codecs are much easier to run on 32bit
[05:56] <miq> and flashplugin etc.
[05:57] <miq> currently the 32bit ubuntu is much less of an hassle
[05:57] <miq> i tried the amd64 one before
[05:57] <miq> imho its not "there" yet
[05:58] <funkyHat> miq, not having a dig, but my response would be to notify people about the issues with the x86-64 version, rather than post bugs about the x86 version running on amd64
[05:58] <miq> funkyHat: well, the issues about x86-64 are well known
[05:58] <funkyHat> more likely to get what you ultimately want quicker that way :)
[05:59] <miq> and i don't think that the DMA issue has anything todo with 64 vs 32 bit
[05:59] <biteme> how do install a .deb from a cd that is not a offical debian or ubunta cd
[05:59] <miq> i could use a 32-bit sempron on a board with the same chipset
[06:00] <Grat> biteme: use dpkg
[06:00] <unforcer> Hey could someone tell me what is "si xx%" when I write to to terminal because it is taking everything and ubuntu is lag like grazy?
[06:00] <unforcer> top*
[06:00] <stizoner> i think 64bit you have to expect its unstable
[06:00] <yccheok> how i can check is there any process occupy my sound output?
[06:00] <biteme> how do i use dpkg grat,i am new to linux
[06:00] <Grat> biteme: dpkg -i file.deb
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> biteme, dpkg -i package.deb
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> !dpkg
[06:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, dpkg is the Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[06:01] <miq> stizoner: one more reason to currently use the 32bit ubuntu (like I do)
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> why don't they call dpkg dpm ?
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> ... weird
[06:01] <biteme> do i do this as root or user at the bash command prompt
[06:02] <miq> i just wanted to hear if my problem is known or other people can confirm it
[06:02] <dalamar> if doing it as user just put 'sudo' in front of it
[06:02] <wickedpuppy> biteme, sudo
[06:02] <Grat> biteme: as root in the command prompt or sudo dkpg -i file.deb
[06:02] <yccheok> how i can check is there any process occupy my sound output? since when i open mplayer, there are no sound
[06:03] <biteme> thanks for the help
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> yccheok, no sound at all ?? i mean from other programs as well ?
[06:03] <Grat> biteme: no problem ;>
[06:04] <CarinArr> hey i have a small question, i have two fat partitions on a sata drive, i have included them in fstab to mount to /media/data1 and /media/data2 but when i start my computer up it tries to mount them but says there are no /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[06:04] <wickedpuppy> unforcer, there is no command name si ...
[06:04] <unforcer> What does "si 60%" mean when you write top in terminal
[06:04] <CarinArr> however, if i do mount -a once it's started they mount file
[06:04] <Angrod> how can i watch movies online? like this one right here: http://media.putfile.com/karatemaster_0001 in firefox it says i need a plugin (windows media player)
[06:05] <snorks> exit
[06:05] <CarinArr> angrod, well you can install windows media player for online streaming using crossover office
[06:05] <yccheok> wickedpuppy: yes. i noe this problem will solve after i restart. but i dun want to do tat since i am running some time consuming simulation. how can i check which process occupy my sound resource?
[06:05] <Angrod> CarinArr: how? :D
[06:05] <biteme> To wickedpuppy i have the same problem i am using a sound blaster 16
[06:05] <nubbe> is it good to run kdeinit before k3b?
[06:05] <Nathanial> I can't ever burn any cd in GnomeBaker
[06:05] <glick> Angrod, xmms plugin
[06:05] <Nathanial> "Blocks total: 359845 Blocks current: 359845 Blocks remaining: 100273
[06:05] <Nathanial> Writing  time:   11.526s
[06:05] <Nathanial> cdrecord: fifo had 64 puts and 0 gets.
[06:05] <Nathanial> cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 1 times full, min"
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> wha two sound problems ...
[06:05] <Nathanial> Is what I get each time when I get a failed message
[06:05] <CarinArr> angrod, well you install crossover office and ask it to install wmp;) it's not freeware tough, dunno another way
[06:05] <biteme> to wickedpuppy ya
[06:06] <karim__> hi
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> !sound
[06:06] <ubotu> I heard sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 or http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> well ... :P
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> lazy me
[06:06] <unforcer> wickedpuppy, http://koti.mbnet.fi/digitalx/murobbs/Kuvakaappaus.png in the right corner? 52.5% si
[06:06] <Angrod> hmm, then xmms plugin sounds better :x where can i get that glick ?
[06:06] <biteme> does any one about ipchains
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> Angrod, how you know it needs windows media player ?
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> !ipchain
[06:06] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Wish i knew
[06:06] <glick> Angrod, the repositories search for it in synaptic
[06:06] <Angrod> wickedpuppy: firefox says so :P
[06:06] <CarinArr> does anyone know why my computer can't find /dev/sda1 and 2 when using fstab when it works fine once the computer has booted? they're sata fat partitions
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> Angrod, i am there .. where it says it requires wmp ?
[06:07] <Angrod> well, here there is this bigg "window" that says i dont have this pluggin
[06:07] <Nathanial> Does anybody understand the Gnome Baker error message "Blocks total: 359845 Blocks current: 359845 Blocks remaining: 100273
[06:07] <Nathanial> Writing  time:   11.526s
[06:07] <Nathanial> cdrecord: fifo had 64 puts and 0 gets.
[06:07] <Nathanial> cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 1 times full, min" ?
[06:07] <EasterSunshine> ah i remember why i didn't install firefox...60 megs
[06:07] <nerp[away] > !ipchains
[06:07] <Angrod> s i press it to download it
[06:07] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nerp[away] 
[06:07] <EasterSunshine> thats most of my hdd
[06:07] <nerp[away] > !iptables
[06:07] <ubotu> nerp[away] : I haven't a clue
[06:07] <Angrod> and then i says i need wmp
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> unforcer, si ?
[06:08] <unforcer> what does the "si" stand for?
[06:08] <miq> unforcer: good question...
[06:08] <Grat> .si stands for slovenia :>
[06:08] <biteme> to wicked puppy check at back of card for any wheel as with my soundcard the card was working but the main sound controller at the back was set min
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> unforcer, no such command as si in my ubuntu
[06:08] <unforcer> argghh..
[06:08] <miq> wickedpuppy: he talk about the "si" field in top
[06:08] <miq> top - 18:05:40 up  5:57,  3 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.11, 0.09
[06:08] <miq> Tasks:  89 total,   1 running,  88 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[06:08] <miq> Cpu(s):  1.3% us,  0.7% sy,  0.0% ni, 98.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
[06:08] <miq> M
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> i am loading his pic
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> its slow
[06:09] <miq> the last one in the Cpu line
[06:09] <unforcer> I have 50% and ubuntu is "laging" like grazy?
[06:09] <unforcer> id must be the idle?
[06:10] <Grat> yes
[06:10] <Grat> us=user, sy=system, id=idle?
[06:10] <unforcer> and si=xxxxx?
[06:10] <biteme> to nerp,how do hide my system from the outside world looking in
[06:10] <miq> yup....and ni= nice
[06:10] <unforcer> :)
[06:10] <karim__> hem how to get libdvdcss2 for ppc ?
[06:11] <miq> but the last three are quite new
[06:11] <miq> dunno what they mean
[06:11] <Grat> biteme: firewall?
[06:11] <unforcer> hmmp.. swap? maybe?
[06:12] <miq> unlikely
[06:12] <surfdue> hi
[06:12] <unforcer> and when I am moving my mouse it dosent because ubuntu is lag that much.
[06:12] <surfdue> my audio is really messed up in gnome
[06:12] <biteme> to grat, i have played around with ipchains and found that i turn nettrace an port scans
[06:13] <surfdue> um, i get alot of error sin programs like alsa and esd erros
[06:13] <surfdue> etc
[06:13] <miq> it's in the cpu line, and i don't have swap, now 0.3%si
[06:13] <unforcer> man top dosent tell nothing about those...
[06:13] <surfdue> it wor work etc?
[06:13] <surfdue> can anyonehelp
[06:13] <unforcer> miq,  yep
[06:13] <Grat> biteme: nettrace and port scans?
[06:13] <Nathanial> there an alternitive CD burning software for Ubuntu?
[06:13] <miq> unforcer: yeah, i skimmed over man top too...found nothing...
[06:13] <glick> Nathanial, use cdrecord from the commandline its not har
[06:13] <surfdue> ALSA device "defualt" had an error.
[06:14] <Grat> biteme: of course you return port scans. first thing i would do i would dissable ping replys, because that usualy fools nmap. then i would close all ports and open just necesary (filtered if possible)
[06:14] <Nathanial> Will it burn it as an audio CD?
[06:14] <glick> Nathanial, yeah
[06:14] <biteme> to grat using the following commands "/sbins/iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -d hostname or ip address -p udp \--dport 33435:33525 -j DROP
[06:14] <glick> if you tell it to
[06:15] <glick> give it the --audio option
[06:15] <Grat> biteme: i dont know. never used iptables for anything more than prerouting :>
[06:16] <biteme> to grat using this command fool tracroute by denying udp packets
[06:17] <miq> unforcer: it could be "swap in"
[06:17] <Grat> biteme: cool. so you cant be traced :>
[06:17] <Nap> hi
[06:17] <dalamar> is the performance of opera ant better than firefox? i know this is an apples vs oranges kind of question but plugins can be a pain and performance in general is rather sluggish with firefox
[06:17] <Lamb_of_God> dalamar: if you dont mind adds opera is nice
[06:18] <washi> hi, I cannot boot properly after a crash. the root fs is mounted read-only.
[06:18] <biteme> to Grat yes i have been hacked before
[06:18] <dalamar> Lamb_of_God, does it still only have them in that small section at the top of the screen?
[06:18] <apollo2011> I am having trouble getting Samba to work on my main computer and the Shared Folders settings windows always is grayed out
[06:19] <Grat> biteme: me too, but only because i was stupid (open ssh and friends password got stolen) :>
[06:19] <biteme> to Grat this hides my ports and running services on my server to the outside world
[06:19] <Lamb_of_God> dalamar: actually if you choose the google ads they are not near as intruding, but still intruding to me
[06:19] <dalamar> ah i see
[06:19] <Grat> biteme: so what else do you need?
[06:19] <apollo2011> I have a partially working smb.conf on my other Ubunt pc but if I copy it over it doesn't help any
[06:19] <Lamb_of_God> dalamar: to answer your question, if you choose the banner ads yes
[06:19] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: why is that?
[06:19] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: dunno
[06:19] <biteme> to Grat in what county are in
[06:20] <Grat> biteme: slovenia
[06:20] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: I had it working that it could see other machines but now nothing works
[06:20] <Nap> does somebody use an rt2500-based wifi card ?
[06:20] <miq> unforcer: it could mean "system io" too...
[06:20] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: did you put it in the correct spot?
[06:20] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: yeah, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:20] <Nap> sometimes my connection is lost, and I must reboot my pc
[06:20] <washi> I ran fsck from a LiveCD.
[06:20] <biteme> mexico
[06:20] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: and now samba doesnt work at all?
[06:21] <surfdue> Can anyone tell me what sound drivers i need, a pastebin of my lspci is here: http://pastebin.com/342332
[06:21] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: well it used to work with my original smb.conf then it didn't, so I tried the one from the other pc and it doesn't help. I restarted samba to with sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:21] <unforcer> miq hmm.. I am running laptop
[06:22] <kevor> unforcer: running with a laptop isn't wise :P
[06:22] <washi> When I reboot I get "fsck failed" but I cannot run fsck
[06:22] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: the Shared Folders settings window actually freezes and I have to Force Quit it.
[06:22] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: type smbtree in the cconsole and give me the output in #flood
[06:22] <Lamb_of_God> hmm
[06:22] <miq> unforcer: well, that does not matter really
[06:22] <unforcer> kevor,  well worked with everybody why not with me?
[06:22] <biteme> to Grat how do run apm from my user space (not as root)
[06:22] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: It didn't have any output...
[06:22] <LinuxJones> surfdue, looks like snd-intel8x0 drivers
[06:22] <unforcer> running acer aspire 5024WLMi
[06:23] <dalamar> unforcer, he was making a joke, like dont run with your laptop ;)
[06:23] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: ok and you are sure the files are open to the network?
[06:23] <unforcer> dalamar,  :D
[06:23] <LinuxJones> surfdue, >> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=intel8x0
[06:23] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: what do you mean?
[06:23] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: well the folders have to be public to the network
[06:23] <biteme> bye-bye
[06:24] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: well right now I can't even see the other machines, like the names
[06:24] <apprentice> hello can someone help me boot ubuntu in vmware on windowes?
[06:24] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: I even have one Windows PC and that one works fine with the network
[06:24] <unforcer> I am not english, dont get it... so easy :)
[06:24] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: on just the current box or all of the boxes?
[06:24] <LinuxJones> surfdue, the modules should already be installed for you can you look at the output of lsmod to see if they are already loaded ?
[06:24] <apollo2011> just the current box can't see anything
[06:24] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: actually, the other machines can see it
[06:24] <apollo2011> but not the shares
[06:24] <cyrain> hi
[06:24] <apollo2011> just the name
[06:25] <carajean206> anyone know how to get there weather to work in gdesklet?
[06:25] <cyrain> can someone help me ? ;)
[06:25] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: ok and the windows box has file sharing on and is sharing the folder you wanna see
[06:25] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: yeah
[06:25] <cyrain> my mouse and keyboard are too slow
[06:25] <Lamb_of_God> cyrain: just ask ;-)
[06:25] <cyrain> thx
[06:25] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: ok what is in your smb.conf?
[06:25] <cyrain> I just compiled a new kernel 2.6.12.5
[06:25] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: I'll paste bin it...
[06:26] <Lamb_of_God> ok
[06:26] <cyrain> ma graphics card is radeon 9200SE
[06:26] <cyrain> and since that the keyobard types slowly and the mouse is a litle jerky
[06:26] <LinuxJones> cyrain, the default stock Ubuntu kernel doesn't work for you ?
[06:26] <cyrain> I tried xmodeset
[06:26] <Virtual> I have just installed ubuntu but it didn`t ask me for a root password and I don`t know what the root password is
[06:26] <cyrain> it did but I am used to upgrade it regurlarly
[06:27] <cyrain> and I never had any pb before
[06:27] <LinuxJones> Virtual, the root account is locked by default use sudo -s (enter your users password) to get to a root terminal
[06:27] <cyrain> and the strnage part is that even if i reboot with te oldkernel, i stil have te sae behaviour
[06:27] <cyrain> the same behaviour
[06:27] <cyrain> I man
[06:27] <cyrain> mean
[06:27] <_frank> !sudo
[06:27] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:27] <cyrain> (damn keyboard) :(
[06:27] <_frank> Virtual ^^
[06:28] <satafterh> su su sudio
[06:28] <cyrain> I have a wireless logitec desktop
[06:28] <cyrain> and go no errors in syslog, .xsession
[06:28] <LaMaH> hi - is there anyway i can search on Ubuntu homepage, for if it supports some stuff i have in my laptop ?
[06:28] <cyrain> so I'm stuck :(
[06:28] <LinuxJones> cyrain, using your own kernel is alot of work
[06:28] <Duvel> !botsnack
[06:28] <ubotu> thanks duvel :)
[06:28] <Duvel> !botsnack
[06:29] <Lamb_of_God> ubotu: i love you
[06:29] <Virtual> ok thank you LinuxJones
[06:29] <ubotu> Lamb_of_God: Are you on ritalin?
[06:29] <cyrain> yes but I used an make oldconfig before
[06:29] <satafterh> anyone know what that latest stable kernel is and can I update it in kpagage
[06:29] <cyrain> and copiled the 2.6.111 before and it worked okay
[06:29] <kevor> ubotu <3 kevor
[06:29] <ubotu> No idea, kevor
[06:29] <LinuxJones> Virtual, it takes just a few days to get used to using it  :)
[06:29] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: http://pastebin.com/342337
[06:30] <cyrain> do u know what I could check ?
[06:30] <satafterh> should i use a 386 or 686 kernel?
[06:30] <_frank> satafterh: if you have an intel chip, use 686
[06:30] <LaMaH> AMD64 - 386?
[06:31] <washi> hi, I cannot boot properly after a crash. the root fs is mounted read-only.
[06:31] <carajean206> any help on the desklet  for weather?
[06:31] <satafterh> frank: I have a amd 2600+
[06:31] <_frank> amd64 use k7 (or k8 if using Ubuntu64)
[06:31] <Simian> wehre can I find a list of breezy repositories?
[06:31] <_frank> satafterh: use k7 then
[06:31] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: idk for sure but line 170    browseable = no
[06:31] <Lamb_of_God> maybe the problem
[06:31] <LinuxJones> cyrain, you probably won't get much help with a custom kernel
[06:31] <cyrain> washi ?
[06:31] <jbull> Simian:  by changing hoary in your sources.list to breezy.
[06:31] <washi> I ran fsck from a LiveCD.
[06:31] <surfdue> I cant get alsa to stop erroring
[06:31] <cyrain> umount root
[06:31] <Lamb_of_God> **line 171
[06:31] <surfdue> can anyone help?
[06:32] <cyrain> chkf.ext2 or 3 /root
[06:32] <washi> yes cyrain
[06:32] <cyrain> I mean chkfs.ext2 or 3
[06:32] <Simian> thanks jbull, do they all work?
[06:32] <cyrain> afterunmounting the parttion
[06:32] <_frank> Simian: don't use breezy unless you REALLY know what you're doing!
[06:32] <satafterh> frank: every time i install it i think my nvidia driver stop x from starting, how can i fix this?
[06:32] <washi> is it not the same thing as fsck ?
[06:32] <cyrain> sorry I meant fsck
[06:33] <cyrain> my keyboard sucsfor te moement
[06:33] <dubnium> is it safe to install real player from the repositories or should i use the howto here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061  ??
[06:33] <jbull> Simian:  yes.  and i echo what _frank just said
[06:33] <washi> the fs is ext3
[06:33] <dubnium> i mean mplayer
[06:33] <cyrain> ok so this makes : fsck.ext3 /root
[06:33] <washi> i cannot unmount or mount the fs
[06:33] <cyrain> after unmount /dev/hdxy corresponding to your root
[06:33] <_frank> satafterh: how do you know it's the nvidia driver the problem?
[06:33] <cyrain> as root your canot unmount it ?
[06:34] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: well it didn't help me see the other pcs but I didn't expect it to...
[06:34] <cyrain> ok then
[06:34] <Lamb_of_God> =/
[06:34] <teprrr> hmm, what are the differences between ati and radeon X drivers?
[06:34] <cyrain> boot from the ubuntu cd
[06:34] <LaMaH> ok noone saw what i asked before, but does Ubuntu support these devices - Ralink RT2500 Wireless LAN Card - SmartLink 56k Modem - O2Micro OZ711M1 MemoryCard Bus - AMD64 3700+ (CPU Driver its a laptop and has to speed down in order to preserve battery) - ATi Radeon9700Pro Mobile
[06:34] <cyrain> start the install
[06:34] <_frank> dubnium: using repositories is always better.. ubuntu repositories, that is
[06:34] <washi> it says libpam.so.0 nosuch file...
[06:34] <cyrain> after selecting the keyboard
[06:34] <LaMaH> and sorry for the Bold there :\
[06:34] <teprrr> oh, nm, I'm using radeon.. :P
[06:34] <cyrain> press ctrl + alt + F2 you'll ge a prompt
[06:34] <dubnium> :)
[06:34] <apollo2011> Lamb_of_God: and the other Ubuntu pcs get Folder Contents Could Not Be Displayed...
[06:35] <surfdue> #
[06:35] <surfdue> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound  Controller (rev a0)
[06:35] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: is it wireless lan?
[06:35] <_frank> LaMaH: I don't know about the modem, but my guess for the rest is that it would work
[06:35] <washi> I did run fsck from a LiveCD
[06:35] <satafterh> frank:  I have a backup of my xorg.conf from befor i stalled the driver and set up my tv out, when I use the back up it starts fine
[06:35] <washi> successfully
[06:35] <apollo2011> well part of it
[06:35] <LaMaH> _frank okey :) i hope so
[06:35] <pfp> !tell me about repositories
[06:35] <cyrain> then try the fsck again on /dev/hdxy
[06:35] <LaMaH> _frank im downloading it now hehe.. :)
[06:35] <apollo2011> I only use the wifi for the laptop but everything right now is comming over the ethernet network
[06:36] <_frank> LaMaH: wireless LAN cards can be tricky to get to work too..
[06:36] <LaMaH> :(
[06:36] <washi> it fixed the fs but when i reboot from the hd, I cannot boot properly
[06:36] <LaMaH> meaning i have to mess around in the Console and stuff ?
[06:36] <_frank> satafterh: how did you install tv out?
[06:36] <Lamb_of_God> apollo2011: hmm idk from here i would just suggest using the default smb.conf and see what it does
[06:36] <cyrain> ok boot from the cd
[06:37] <washi> and then ?
[06:37] <_frank> satafterh: try to use the nvidia driver without tv out. tv out configuration is not obvious
[06:37] <cyrain> now mount the root fs
[06:37] <satafterh> frank: up as clone in xorg.conf
[06:37] <filip_> how can i setup an ftp-server on my computer. i will that only my frind can download from me. how to do?
[06:37] <EdLin> LaMaH, I'd recommend that you try out the live CD out first to find out if your hardware works, if it does, then use the install CD
[06:37] <cyrain> sorry
[06:37] <LaMaH> :\ that means even more to download
[06:38] <cyrain> after te instal cd has started
[06:38] <cyrain> ctrl+alt+f2
[06:38] <washi> I already tried changing /etc/fstab
[06:38] <cyrain> no
[06:38] <cyrain> you do not need this
[06:38] <washi> why does the boot process mount the root fs read-only then ?
[06:38] <cyrain> chroot /dev/hdxy
[06:39] <cyrain> where /dev/hdxy is your rot partitions
[06:39] <cyrain> where /dev/hdxy is your rot partition
[06:39] <cyrain> do u use grub or lilo ?
[06:39] <washi> grub
[06:39] <EdLin> LaMaH, considering that the install CD erases your entire disk by default I'd reccomend to find out if it works or not before you do that.
[06:39] <cyrain> your boot partitnos is a partitoin by itself or contained in /
[06:40] <washi> I'm not sure. I did the default Ubuntu install
[06:40] <LaMaH> EdLin well its my laptop - nothing of value on that :P
[06:40] <_frank> LaMaH: you could set up a dual boot to install windows and ubuntu side by side
[06:40] <washi> probably in /
[06:40] <cyrain> ok
[06:40] <LaMaH> so dont i dont really care about deleting my HD on it
[06:41] <LaMaH> but i care about downloading two ISO's and that :(
[06:41] <filip_> someone know how to setup one private ftp-server ?
[06:41] <cyrain> does /etc/fsab contains a line with /boot  on a sinle line
[06:41] <cyrain> ?
[06:41] <cyrain> sinle -> single
[06:41] <washi> no
[06:41] <cyrain> ok
[06:41] <LaMaH> oh well
[06:41] <LaMaH> im AFK :)
[06:41] <_frank> LaMaH: are you on dial up?
[06:41] <cyrain> so boot is part of /
[06:41] <miq> unforcer: found it
[06:42] <LaMaH> ADSL 2Mbit
[06:42] <LaMaH> but still takes time! :P
[06:42] <washi> yes
[06:42] <miq> http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux/2005-Jan/0761.html
[06:42] <cyrain> now type grub --install /dev/hdxy
[06:42] <miq> softirq
[06:42] <unforcer> jippii
[06:42] <washi> what does it do ?
[06:42] <_frank> cyrain: install grub on partition instead of MBR?
[06:42] <LaMaH> ok one last question - if i download the 64Bit (AMD64) Version of Ubuntu - is it then more dificult installing programs ?
[06:42] <cyrain> hmm
[06:43] <cyrain> did so
[06:43] <LaMaH> like OpenOffice and that
[06:43] <raven3x7> LaMaH, your modem should be supported by the smartlink drivers
[06:43] <washi> do you think my MBR is damaged ?
[06:43] <LaMaH> thx raven3x7 :)
[06:43] <miq> unforcer: so it seems, that your kernel is spending *lots* of time processing interrupts from hardware devices
[06:43] <raven3x7> !tell LaMaH about binary
[06:43] <raven3x7> !binarydrivers
[06:43] <ubotu> raven3x7: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:43] <cyrain> I installed by boot on another partition
[06:43] <^^frank^^> breezy: when i try to run firefox I got error:"/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libgfx_gtk.so: undefined symbol: pango_xft_get_font_map
[06:44] <raven3x7> !drivers
[06:44] <flipy> hi
[06:44] <ubotu> drivers is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//BinaryDriverHowto
[06:44] <flipy> i'm trying to set up a ftp server
[06:44] <miq> unforcer: perhaps some devices share irqs and/or their drivers do some buggy stuff
[06:44] <steph> is the caliu repository dead?
[06:44] <raven3x7> !tell LaMaH about drivers
[06:44] <flipy> my question is, where to put files and how to acess it?
[06:44] <unforcer> miq, thanks can I do something about it
[06:44] <EasterSunshine> quick question...i want to format a number into a string with a certain amount of padding with leading zeros. for example i was "file%s"%num to give "file001" and "file022" for num = 1 and num = 22
[06:44] <cyrain> so I suppose that washi having boot part of / shuold install the boot loader in the mbr
[06:44] <EasterSunshine> oh sry, wrong channel
[06:44] <LaMaH> raven3x7 - i ment if the 64Bit version of Linux is harder to install programs to
[06:44] <LaMaH> than the 32Bit version
[06:44] <flipy> steph: let me check
[06:45] <unforcer> I installed ati drivers :D
[06:45] <washi> cyrain : I tried to change thr grub command after pressing Esc at boot
[06:45] <flipy> steph: workin for me
[06:45] <miq> unforcer: hmmm, dunno, perhaps you can try to assign different irqs to the devices in the bios so not so many irqs are shared
[06:45] <washi> rw instead of ro
[06:45] <cyrain> and ?
[06:45] <cyrain> yes ?
[06:45] <washi> no luck
[06:45] <steph> hmm deb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports?
[06:45] <EdLin> LaMaH, a few windows dlls for programs like mplayer will need a chroot 32 bit setup, but most stuff will work.
[06:45] <miq> or disable devices you dont need (like parallel port or something
[06:45] <raven3x7> LaMaH, generraly yes. im not sure if the smartlink drivers will work out of the box or even at all in 64bit
[06:46] <LaMaH> o.O Windows ?
[06:46] <washi> the fs is still ro so I cannot boot normally
[06:46] <flipy> steph: ftp2 not working
[06:46] <LaMaH> can Ubuntu run Windows programs ?
[06:46] <cyrain> yes : the system put it as ro beacasue I was damaged (AFAIK)
[06:46] <steph> flipy, should i jsut edit it to say ftp?
[06:46] <washi> but I cannot umount it
[06:46] <EdLin> LaMaH, no, I'm refering to mplayer - a media player that uses windows dlls for windows-media and quicktime content
[06:46] <LaMaH> oh
[06:46] <LaMaH> well im gonna DL the 32Bit version of Ubuntu then ;)
[06:47] <miq> unforcer: what does "cat /proc/interrupts" tell you?
[06:47] <EdLin> LaMaH, mplayer isn't even in the official repositories
[06:47] <washi> and after running fsck from a CD it did not make a difference
[06:47] <cyrain> so u can boot only from the cd ?
[06:47] <raven3x7> LaMaH, ubuntu as any gnu/linux distro can run wine which is allows to run quite a few but not all windows programs
[06:48] <cyrain> sa boot from the cd, ctrl+alt+f2
[06:48] <miq> unforcer: you use a stock ubuntu kernel or did you compile one yourself?
[06:48] <cyrain> chroot to your root partition
[06:48] <EdLin> LaMaH, you might need 32 bit for your closed drivers though.
[06:48] <vitriol> do most people with a 64 bit proc still use the 32 bit ubuntu?
[06:48] <LaMaH> hehe yea - im downloading the 32Bit version now
[06:48] <LaMaH> downloading the Live DVD ;)
[06:48] <vitriol> i've tried both
[06:48] <tsw> what is the ubuntu way to setup multiple (three) monitors?
[06:48] <unforcer> miq, stock
[06:48] <_frank> vitriol: that's what I do and it's much easier to use the 32bit version
[06:49] <LaMaH> i just hope Ubuntu isnt too hard to setup using wifi :\
[06:49] <washi> when i boot from the hd (root fs is hda1) I am sent to a root console after fsck failed
[06:49] <vitriol> had trouble only with flash so far in 64 bit....but haven' played with it much yet
[06:49] <cyrain> then type grub
[06:49] <cyrain> you should get a prompt
[06:49] <vitriol> _frank: what sort of problems should i expect with the 64 bit version?
[06:49] <gabriel> hi there is there a dumeter edition for linux?
[06:49] <vitriol> _frank: besides flash
[06:49] <unforcer> How can I even update my kernel?
[06:49] <cyrain> how many hd on your mahcine ?
[06:49] <nightmaster> is theere an autoprobe X config?
[06:49] <washi> one : laptop
[06:49] <miq> unforcer: is something with much disk IO running (cd, dvd, movie-stuff)?
[06:49] <cyrain> ok
[06:49] <carajean206> ok does anyone know the correct way to install the newest nvidia drivers?
[06:50] <carajean206> for my graphics
[06:50] <cyrain> after the prompt from grub type  root (hd0,0)
[06:50] <cyrain> then setup (hd0)
[06:50] <miq> unforcer: don't do it unless you know, what your doing and it is the only fix for your problem
[06:50] <miq> :-)
[06:50] <alex__> is there any pd user here ? I have installed it but as said in the mailing, there is a bug in ubuntu so that there is the esd process to kill before starting pd, I have ps -fA |grep esd but I did not find anything, any suggestion welcome
[06:50] <raven3x7> carajean206, you would have to get the drivers from nvidia's site
[06:50] <dalamar> the ubuntuguide.org worked fine for installing my nvidia drivers, though I dont know if they are newest (they didnt come off thier website)
[06:50] <EdLin> aptitude install nvidia-glx, then run the nvidia configuration program (you'll see it if you type nv plus a tab, forgot the name)
[06:50] <vitriol> oh another difference i've noted with the 64 bit ubuntu and 32 bit versions is that gadmin hardlocks my system in 32 bit, but this problem doesn't exist in 64 bit ubuntu
[06:50] <vitriol> don't know why :(
[06:50] <_frank> vitriol: if you want flash animations in firefox, play .wmv, .mov, or others you will need to work to get it to work
[06:50] <washi> from the admin "Control-D to exit" console ?
[06:50] <EdLin> raven3x7, it's better to get the Ubuntu ones.
[06:51] <cyrain> not yet
[06:51] <_frank> vitriol: basically you need to setup a chroot, a 32bit installation of ubuntu within the 64bit version
[06:51] <raven3x7> EdLin, sure if anything else they are easier to install but their not the latest
[06:51] <vitriol> _frank: ok...i guess i can deal with that :) not too much choice....
[06:51] <nightmaster> is there a way for x to autoprobe for devices plz
[06:51] <cyrain> type qui
[06:51] <washi> from the CD ?
[06:51] <cyrain> quit
[06:51] <nightmaster> is there a way for x to autoprobe for devices plz
[06:51] <carajean206> ok raven i have gotten that far but when i follow there instuctions nothing happens
[06:51] <_frank> vitriol: what do you mean, not too much choice?
[06:51] <unforcer> miq, nothing is running nothing but eth0 is comming in to xchat
[06:52] <EdLin> raven3x7, Ubuntu's nvidia drivers are the only ones that don't give my TNT2 card trouble.
[06:52] <cyrain> I' m sorry I've got to go but
[06:52] <_frank> vitriol: some programs are more unstable in 64 bit
[06:52] <washi> quit : command not found
[06:52] <nightmaster> is there a way for x to autoprobe for devices plz
[06:52] <vitriol> _frank: i'm having a problem with the 32 bit ubuntu
[06:52] <cyrain> :)
[06:52] <eruin> does anyone have good links to cairo showoff sites?
[06:52] <cyrain> did u have the gurb prompt ?
[06:52] <cyrain> http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=975
[06:52] <eruin> ie talks/demos from guadec and the like
[06:52] <vitriol> _frank: only on 32 bit install does gadmin freeze on me and hard lock my system
[06:52] <_frank> vitriol: you will have more, not less with 64 bit, I'm sure
[06:52] <cyrain> explains the stes I hust gae u
[06:52] <cyrain> just gave you
[06:52] <cyrain> steps
[06:52] <nightmaster> is there a way for x to autoprobe for devices plz
[06:52] <vitriol> _frank: i have no clue why gadmin doesn't freeze my computer in 64 bit ubuntu
[06:52] <cyrain> really have to go
[06:53] <gabriel> nobady knows the equal to dumeter bandwidh meter for linux?
[06:53] <washi> thank you cyrain
[06:53] <cyrain> realy sorr :(
[06:53] <raven3x7> EdLin, your card )like my TNT1) is no longer supported since after the 7174 drivers.
[06:53] <Lamb_of_God> cyrain: having problems typing?
[06:53] <vitriol> _frank: thats really the only reason i have for using 64 bit :)
[06:53] <miq> unforcer: hmmm
[06:53] <vitriol> _frank: i didn't notice an performance difference
[06:53] <wjesusaxl> zup fellows
[06:53] <carajean206> ok can u guys tell me how to correctly install them
[06:53] <carajean206> ?
[06:53] <CookedGryphon> i'm compiling mplayer from source, i already compiled it before but am trying to recompile with the gui enabled, it keeps coming up with somehting needs config.h, but i thought configure jsut made that file, it ran through no errors
[06:53] <washi> lamb_of_god you want to take over cyrain ?
[06:53] <Lamb_of_God> will breeze support PPC64?
[06:53] <miq> unforcer: really hard to find out what to do....
[06:53] <_frank> vitriol: ok... I had severe problems with media players to in 64 bit. like kaffeine would always crash
[06:53] <Lamb_of_God> washi: huh?
[06:53] <raven3x7> EdLin, and my card for some reason doesnt work with the ubuntu drivers either
[06:53] <EdLin> raven3x7, well, that's why I use, and recommend, the Ubuntu drivers. Plus they are easier to install.
[06:54] <vitriol> _frank: my media players are crashing in 64 bit as well
[06:54] <EdLin> raven3x7, bummer
[06:54] <Lamb_of_God> washi: what do you need i will see if i can help
[06:54] <dubnium> cookedgryphon, im installing now from repositories, why not just do that?
[06:54] <washi> do you have an idea that could help me boot normally?
[06:54] <gabriel> how do you mesure bandwith in linux=
[06:54] <unforcer> miq, there is thread in ubuntu forum for acer aspire 5024.. I just cannot find it
[06:54] <_frank> vitriol: and if you want any 32 bit games to run (basically every game), you need to set them up in the chroot.
[06:54] <apprentice> is there a way for x to autoprobe for devices plz
[06:54] <_frank> vitriol: what is gadmin?
[06:54] <CookedGryphon> dubnium: cos i already have the source and a sloooow internet connection
[06:54] <Lamb_of_God> washi: why cant you?
[06:55] <dubnium> i see
[06:55] <vitriol> _frank: i have no clue...i just know that as i watch top, it freezes my computer by eating the cpu
[06:55] <Nathanial> hi when I put a blank CD into my CD burner, CD/DVD Creator comes up, is there a way to burn audio CD's with this?
[06:55] <washi> The computer crashed an i cannot boot properly since then
[06:55] <vitriol> _frank: it's something that runs in gnome
[06:55] <washi> the fs is mounted read only
[06:55] <raven3x7> carajean206, what do you mean nothing happens? did you change you xorg.conf?
[06:55] <Lamb_of_God> washi: explain deeper plz
[06:55] <vitriol> _frank: if you do ps x | grep gadmin you'll see it running if you're in gnome
[06:55] <washi> i ran fsck from a live cd
[06:55] <wjesusaxl> I have an error when I try to compile center icq configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables
[06:55] <_frank> vitriol: i don't run gnome. did you try killing that program?
[06:55] <Lamb_of_God> washi: what crashed? why did it crash?
[06:55] <washi> then when i reboot i get fsck failed
[06:56] <vitriol> _frank: yes i did
[06:56] <vitriol> _frank: then everything froze :)
[06:56] <vitriol> _frank: everytime i rebooted and tried it again, i get the same result
[06:56] <CookedGryphon> how can you uninstall summat that u've compiled from source n "make install"ed
[06:56] <CookedGryphon> ?
[06:57] <Lamb_of_God> washi: CookedGryphon rm all of it
[06:57] <washi> Lamb_of_God : my friend pressed the power button to turn the pc off after it froze
[06:57] <wjesusaxl> I've installed centericq already.. but I had problems with MSN protocol.. and I installed it with MSN ... I just fixed my repositories and I want to redo everything again
[06:57] <Nathanial> Does anybody know if you can burn audio CD's with CD/DVD recorder?
[06:57] <wjesusaxl> how can I uninstall centericq?
[06:57] <Lamb_of_God> CookedGryphon rm all of it
[06:57] <washi> i don't get it
[06:57] <Lamb_of_God> washi: so you cant start up ubuntu at all?
[06:58] <wjesusaxl> I downloaded the code and installed it...
[06:58] <wjesusaxl> no apt-get
[06:58] <unforcer> miq, found it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46853
[06:58] <alex__> can someone tell me how to kill properly the esd process ? ps -fA |grep esd does not find it
[06:58] <CookedGryphon> rm all of it, that's a bit messy int it?
[06:58] <apprentice> how can i reconfigure my X
[06:58] <CookedGryphon> what if its put stuff somewhere n i haven't noticed
[06:58] <alex__> 'esd
[06:58] <alex__> !esd
[06:58] <ubotu> [esd]  Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[06:58] <Lamb_of_God> CookedGryphon: not if you do it right
[06:58] <_frank> CookedGryphon: that's why I use checkinstall instead of make
[06:58] <raven3x7> carajean206 ?
[06:58] <_frank> CookedGryphon: that's why I use checkinstall instead of make install
[06:58] <washi> Lamb_of_God : when i do i get a root console
[06:59] <washi> Lamb_of_God : i cannot umount the root fs to fsck it
[06:59] <washi> Lamb_of_God : the root fs is mounted ro
[06:59] <_frank> CookedGryphon: do a locate program name, it should find pretty much all the files it installed
[06:59] <washi> that's why it doesn't boot normally
[06:59] <Lamb_of_God> washi: try the "exit" command then login
[06:59] <Lamb_of_God> that *should* get you to runlevel 2
[06:59] <unforcer> miq,  there is someone saying "As said, kernel 2.6.11-1 from Universe fixes the DMA on the harddisk""
[07:00] <washi> Lamb_of_God : just did exit
[07:00] <CookedGryphon> I may have solved the problem by su ing... i hadn't noticed, that's y it couldn't remove the files it was tryign to copy itself over
[07:00] <Lamb_of_God> washi: did it bring you to a login screen?
[07:00] <washi> Lamb_of_God : yes
[07:00] <unforcer> how can I update kernel to 2.6.11-1?
[07:00] <Lamb_of_God> washi: ok are you logged in?
[07:00] <washi> Lamb_of_God : i can't
[07:01] <Lamb_of_God> washi: why?
[07:01] <washi> Lamb_of_God : error while loading shared libraries
[07:01] <Lamb_of_God> weird
[07:01] <filip_> how can i setup an ftp-server?
[07:01] <washi> Lamb_of_God : libpam.so.0
[07:01] <carajean206> ok guys how to quit x in order to install the new nvidia driver?
[07:02] <Lamb_of_God> carajean206: sudo shutdown now
[07:02] <raven3x7> carajean206, yes
[07:02] <washi> Lamb_of_God : cannot open shared object file
[07:02] <carajean206> also is there a kernal i should install before i do this
[07:02] <raven3x7> Lamb_of_God, huh?
[07:02] <miq> unforcer: i don't know how to do it the "ubuntu"-way
[07:02] <washi> Lamb_of_God : No such file or directory
[07:02] <Lamb_of_God> washi: idk from here sorry
[07:02] <washi> Lamb_of_God : ?
[07:02] <raven3x7> carajean206, sudo killall gdm
[07:02] <Lamb_of_God> raven3x7: to shutdown X you sudo shutdown now
[07:03] <Lamb_of_God> washi: i dont know from here sorry
[07:03] <carajean206> ok now the kernal prob?
[07:03] <washi> Lamb_of_God : thank you anyway
[07:03] <Lamb_of_God> washi: good luck
[07:03] <raven3x7> Lamb_of_God, i guess you;re right
[07:03] <Lamb_of_God> raven3x7: i know
[07:03] <washi> Lamb_of_God : do you think IRC will help me ?
[07:03] <alive> test ... 1.2.3
[07:04] <raven3x7> carajean206, no
[07:04] <alive> works good //
[07:04] <justaguy> (clears throat)
[07:04] <miq> unforcer: well, my synaptic tells me, that there is a 2.6.11 kernel image available
[07:04] <miq> you could try installing that
[07:04] <Lamb_of_God> washi: no idea, there is bound to be someone sometime that knows howto
[07:04] <raven3x7> Lamb_of_God, i just had killall gdm in mind
[07:04] <unforcer> miq,  well I am running 2.6.10-5 old?
[07:04] <washi> Lamb_of_God : ok
[07:05] <Lamb_of_God> raven3x7: well its better then what most ppl say ctrl+alt+bckspc
[07:05] <karim__> hi installed mplayer-g4 on power pc but there is no binary !
[07:05] <raven3x7> carajean206, you need the headers though so sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:05] <miq> unforcer: yeah, hoary comes with 2.6.10 by default
[07:05] <miq> try installing the newer package
[07:05] <carajean206> i did that raven
[07:06] <raven3x7> Lamb_of_God, lol. ctrl+alt+bckspc doesnt work with gnome ;)
[07:06] <carajean206> i also went through syn. and got them
[07:06] <raven3x7> carajean you killed x?
[07:06] <unforcer> miq, thanks.. tell me the package name?
[07:06] <carajean206> naw not yet im about to
[07:06] <carajean206> when i sh .run the nvidia install file that what it tells me to do
[07:06] <raven3x7> it will kill xchat so wait a minute
[07:07] <carajean206> ok
[07:07] <raven3x7> carajean206, make sure the .sh file is executable
[07:07] <carajean206> hmm
[07:07] <geneo93> anyone know why my nvidia system is getting ati drivers from apt
[07:07] <carajean206> how do i do that in windows i would look for .exe but for linux im lost
[07:07] <miq> unforcer: linux-image-2.6.11-1-686
[07:08] <_frank> geneo93: because they are availbale there
[07:08] <raven3x7> right click on .sh and see the permissions tab
[07:08] <unforcer> kernel-image-2.6.11-nitro0e-x1-686 ?
[07:08] <karim__> hi
[07:08] <raven3x7> carajean206, right click on .sh click on options and see the permissions tab
[07:08] <karim__> I installed mplayer-g4 on ppc but there is no binary !!!
[07:08] <carajean206> yeah
[07:09] <miq> unforcer: uhm, i dont have that one...
[07:09] <karim__> is it normal ?
[07:09] <raven3x7> carajean206, so it is executable?
[07:09] <carajean206> no i just checked the boxes
[07:09] <miq> unforcer: but it should work too..
[07:09] <carajean206> so now i guess it is
[07:09] <raven3x7> yah
[07:09] <unforcer> miq, ok thanks
[07:09] <carajean206> now what
[07:10] <geneo93> _frank:  that dont make much sense to me
[07:10] <miq> unforcer: grub lets you choose which kernel to use, so you can always go back
[07:10] <dalamar> when you 'mark to remove completely' or whatever it is does synaptic verify that no other programs are in need of the dependencies before it deletes them?
[07:10] <carajean206> i got world of warcraft running it just looks like garbage thats why i want new drivers
[07:10] <unforcer> miq, btw how can I chose windows to default in grub?
[07:11] <raven3x7> carajean206, so now kill x and the type sudo sh /fullpath/nvidiadriver
[07:11] <geneo93> maybe it just asumes i have ati card which is dumb just like i dont need OO
[07:11] <carajean206> ok i will try that right now brb in a sec
[07:11] <raven3x7> carajean206, keep in mind that it might be cedegas fault
[07:11] <raven3x7> ugh
[07:11] <Scrawny1> Seveas you around?
[07:11] <netstar> hoary hedgehog allows for a boot loader not to be installed right?
[07:11] <Seveas> Scrawny1, yes
[07:12] <unforcer> well.. google will tell me that... thanks for your help...
[07:13] <_frank> geneo93: what did it install the ati drivers on its own?
[07:13] <Scrawny1> ok have you had a chance to get x-chat 2.4,4 into the backports?
[07:13] <justaguy> _
[07:13] <Seveas> Scrawny1, sec...
[07:13] <codomanaic> !apt-get
[07:13] <ubotu> it has been said that apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[07:13] <Scrawny1> k. :)
[07:15] <raven3x7> geneo you probably installed them yourself by accident
[07:15] <ubuntuuser> hi, does anyone know how i can add a user for ssh?
[07:16] <Seveas> Scrawny1, ok, it failed to build, more unresolvable dependencies
[07:16] <steph> how do i check the version of a package with apt?
[07:16] <EasterSunshine> ubuntuuser: do you want to add the user to your entire system, or just to ssh?
[07:16] <ubuntuuser> just ssh if poss
[07:16] <unforcer> so just for login?
[07:17] <Scrawny1> so I'm guessing its a no-go?
[07:17] <ubuntuuser> yes
[07:17] <jimmac> hola ladies
[07:18] <ubuntuuser> is that possible?
[07:18] <johnio> hello
[07:18] <jimmac> I'm struggling how to switch my soundcards. I fished out an .asoundrc that does it for alsa output, but I'd like the same for oss
[07:18] <jimmac> any hints?
[07:19] <justaguy> hey
[07:19] <filip_> how can i run as root in ubuntu ?
[07:19] <jimmac> http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin is a spanish village to me
[07:19] <jimmac> :)
[07:19] <Scrawny1> filip su root
[07:19] <DJ_Mirage> filip_, sudo su yourpassword
[07:19] <Seveas> filip_, with sudo
[07:19] <Scrawny1> enter pass
[07:19] <raven3x7> !tell Filbert  about root
[07:19] <johnio> ubuntuuser: if someone can ssh in, they pretty much have the same access just as a regular user
[07:20] <raven3x7> !tell filip  about root
[07:20] <alejandro_> hola
[07:20] <glick> wow they have some cool ideas cooking for kde4
[07:20] <alejandro_> hay alguien ahi?
[07:20] <ubuntuuser> yes thats fine, i jsut want my brother to be able to use sftp so he can d/l some files from me
[07:20] <Seveas> !es
[07:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:20] <spine55> glick, when is that supposed to be out?
[07:20] <filip_> hmm so i can log in as root in ubuntu ?
[07:20] <Seveas> not
[07:20] <glick> spine55, im not sure
[07:21] <Seveas> you should not
[07:21] <spine55> glick, can't wait
[07:21] <filip_> can i log in as root?
[07:21] <glick> but im usually a gnome/xce4 user and i might have to load it up and check it out
[07:22] <ubuntu> tu-es
[07:22] <enntee> Anyone using breezy? Is it useable at the moment?
[07:22] <Seveas> filip_, not by default and enabling it is not recommended
[07:22] <dubnium> where can i grab codecs for mplayer?
[07:22] <filip_> Seveas: but i whant to enebling that
[07:22] <johnio> ubuntuuser, just add him using the Administrations -> Users and Groups from the gnome panel
[07:22] <Seveas> filip_, why?
[07:22] <mekong> hi
[07:22] <Seveas> you should not be needing it
[07:22] <ubuntuuser> ok thanks
[07:22] <johnio> ubuntuuser, and you should be able to adjust how much he can do
[07:23] <evanpro> Hey, the Breezy admonition isn't in the topic anymore!
[07:23] <ubuntuuser> yeh i trust him though :P
[07:23] <evanpro> Which is good, because I'm using Breezy
[07:23] <ubuntuuser> thanks for your help
[07:23] <filip_> need to move some file and i dont whant to use the terminal
[07:23] <johnio> enntee,  breezy works well for me
[07:23] <mekong> im having a prob with ssh
[07:23] <mekong> and its not logging me in
[07:23] <enntee> johnio: are you using the new version of rhythmbox?
[07:24] <Scrawny1> filip system > Administraion > Loginscreen scree setup > security tab, click on allow root login with GDM
[07:24] <evanpro> I'm having a problem with Breezy -- specifically, kernel version 2.6.12-7 on AMD64
[07:24] <filip_> ok
[07:24] <evanpro> The kernel fails to see my SATA disk at bootup
[07:24] <else_> anyone installed e17 yet? i just get a black and later a white screen.
[07:24] <filip_> what is the pass for root then?
[07:24] <filip_> my own or?
[07:25] <evanpro> root=/dev/sda1 causes a panic
[07:25] <surfdue> hi whats the quikest way to burn an iso to a disk
[07:25] <Scrawny1> you have to set that up yourself
[07:25] <evanpro> surfdue, rightclick the iso
[07:25] <mekong> ok im having problems with ssh
[07:25] <mekong> i type ssh root@srv3.sytes.net
[07:25] <mekong> and then spearmint
[07:25] <Scrawny1> you have to enable it
[07:25] <mekong> for my password
[07:25] <filip_> how and where ?
[07:25] <mekong> and ls
[07:25] <evanpro> surfdue, and choose "write to disk"
[07:25] <mekong> and it dont work reallly
[07:25] <Scrawny1> can I pc you?
[07:25] <Seveas> mekong, ssh logins as root are disabled
[07:25] <filip_> yes
[07:25] <surfdue> i dont have that
[07:25] <surfdue> i use xfce
[07:25] <karim__> is there a way to use distcc with dpkg-build ?
[07:26] <johnio> enntee, a little, usually use totem
[07:26] <evanpro> surfdue, no idea, then
[07:26] <evanpro> surfdue, it's possible that xfce has a CD-writing tool
[07:26] <evanpro> surfdue, but without that, you have to start messing around with grodie cdrecord and stuff
[07:27] <evanpro> surfdue, which is a recipe for frustration
[07:27] <bina> is anyone else having problems with firefox? when i press right or left in a textarea it seg faults
[07:27] <evanpro> surfdue, if you have Gnome on your system, I'd log out, log in with a Gnome session, burn the CD, and log out again, and log back in to XFCE
[07:27] <evanpro> surfdue, if there's no other way
[07:27] <johnio> anybody having problems with the nvidia driver disapearing in breezy
[07:27] <enntee> johnio: do you know if the automatic playlists now support "date added"?
[07:27] <johnio> enntee: let me try to check
[07:28] <mekong> hmm i cant login
[07:28] <enntee> johnio: thanks
[07:28] <surfdue> gotit
[07:28] <surfdue> thx
[07:28] <surfdue> cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc bla.iso
[07:29] <mekong> ssh root@srv3.sytes.net
[07:29] <mekong> spearmint
[07:29] <mekong> is what i type
[07:29] <evanpro> mekong, did you get the point that ssh login as root is disabled by default
[07:29] <evanpro> ?
[07:29] <surfdue> how do i mount my cd?
[07:29] <Seveas> Scrawny1, ?
[07:29] <mekong> oh how do i enable it
[07:29] <Scrawny1> yes?
[07:30] <Seveas> it'll hit 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ /' in about 5 minutes I guess
[07:30] <steph> how do i check the version of a package with apt?
[07:30] <evanpro> mekong, best bet is to log in as a regular user...
[07:30] <evanpro> ...and sudo or su after that
[07:30] <Seveas> apt-cache policy $packagename
[07:30] <steph> thank you
[07:30] <Scrawny1> ok thx seveas :)
[07:30] <johnio> enntee: does not look like it
[07:31] <dawkirst> Hi ppl.
[07:31] <dawkirst> What would be an equivalent to Auto CAD or Solidworks for Linux?
[07:31] <enntee> johnio: thanks. doesn't look like too many features got added after 10 months between releases
[07:31] <enntee> =\
[07:31] <mikel> hola
[07:32] <johnio> enntee: from what I remeber seeing it was almost like rhythmbox was abandoned for a while
[07:32] <mikel> alguien usa Dulcinea?
[07:32] <enntee> johnio: yeah, it's unfortunate.
[07:32] <enntee> muine hasn't gotten a lot of love lately either
[07:32] <carajean> is raven on still?
[07:33] <mikel> no me entero
[07:33] <dawkirst> What would be an equivalent to Auto CAD or Solidworks for Linux?
[07:33] <johnio> enntee: yea, seems like not much has changed on that front in a while
[07:33] <Scrawny1> Seveas can that go into the normal backport under sources.list?
[07:33] <mikel> by
[07:33] <rhelmer> dawkirst: haven't looked into the CAD stuff for a while, but there is linuxcad.. have you looked around yet?
[07:33] <carajean> hey raven that soemwhat didnt work im getting fatal IO errors after i install them
[07:34] <rhelmer> dawkirst: are you looking for something strictly open source?
[07:34] <Harold> Anyone here grab the Quake 3 sourcecode that's just been released?
[07:35] <geneo93> Harold:  its just the engine
[07:35] <johnio> enntee: by the way rhythmbox is pretty crashy for me right nwo
[07:35] <Harold> geneo93, To develop, then?
[07:35] <carajean> hello is there anyone there that can guide me through the nvidia driver setup im getting some kind of error
[07:35] <Seveas> !nvidia
[07:35] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:35] <Seveas> Scrawny1, just add that line anywhere in sources.list you want
[07:36] <Scrawny1> ok thx Seveas :)
[07:36] <Seveas> but disable it after installing xchat, the server is not online 24/7
[07:36] <steph> are ati drivers ever going to be updated in the backports?
[07:36] <Luke> does anyone know if the Ubuntu live cd has gparted?
[07:36] <geneo93> you could use it that way Harold
[07:36] <Scrawny1> ok I'll just comment it out :)
[07:36] <Scrawny1> lemme know when its up :)
[07:36] <else_> anyone installed e17 yet? i just get a black and later a white screen.
[07:36] <Seveas> about 10 seconds
[07:37] <angie> hello there
[07:37] <Seveas> hi
[07:37] <JRlinux> Wow, Ubuntu AMD64 live finds my mem card ports AND my USB port.
[07:37] <angie> having dependencies problems installing gnomebaker 0.4
[07:37] <angie> any advice?
[07:37] <carajean> ok it seems i am missing the glx package dont see how can i install from console since i cant log in
[07:38] <Nathanial> Who here uses NeroLinux?
[07:38] <Harold> geneo93, What else could I do with the Quake 3 sourcecode?
[07:38] <else_> i used it some time ago, Nathanial
[07:38] <Nathanial> Do you know how to switch it to burn a cd as an audio cd?
[07:39] <else_> i think i burned some audio cds with nero.
[07:39] <geneo93> well if you have q3 cd you could play it
[07:39] <evanpro> !sata
[07:39] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, evanpro
[07:39] <else_> you can activate different registers at the bottom, left.
[07:39] <evanpro> ?sata
[07:39] <Nathanial> I just tried to burn a cd, it burned but it burned it as a data disc
[07:39] <evanpro> !help
[07:39] <Nathanial> I can't find an option to burn it as an audio disc =\
[07:39] <else_> yeah, you have to choose the audio register.
[07:39] <Harold> geneo93, But why would you need the sourcecode if you already have the CD?
[07:39] <unforcer> miq, hehe.. wrong kernel :)
[07:40] <angie> any help for installing gnomebaker0.4 please?
[07:40] <Seveas> Angel-SL, what's the exact error (if it's mare than a few lines, paste it on the pastebin)
[07:40] <else_> Nathanial, show me a screenshot :)
[07:40] <unforcer> it was for 64bit.. and when I booted the 368 xserver dosent work :)
[07:40] <else_> of the main window.
[07:40] <Seveas> Nathanial, hint: screenshots can be uploaded at the pastebin too ;)
[07:40] <Nathanial> Okay :)
[07:41] <else-> Nathanial, stop, i found one right now.
[07:41] <aima_> xchat will crash
[07:41] <aima_> edit
[07:41] <else-> http://ww2.nero.com/img/Main_Window_with_File_System_Editor_BIG_eng.gif <- you see the tabs at the bottom, left?
[07:41] <aima_> argh wrong channel again
[07:41] <Seveas> aima_, *g* :)
[07:41] <unforcer> how can I remove kernel that I just installed?
[07:42] <else-> dpkg -P unforcer
[07:42] <c0rrupt_> apt-get uninstall windows
[07:42] <Seveas> aima_, there's an xchat 2.4.4 package on my personal repository if you want it ;
[07:42] <Seveas> ;)
[07:42] <else-> c0rrupt_, *g*
[07:42] <icewt> will breezy include mplayer pre7? there still seems to be pre6 at the moment :/
[07:42] <unforcer> from terminal
[07:42] <c0rrupt_> else-, :-*
[07:42] <else-> Seveas, could i have it, too?
[07:42] <unforcer> c0rrupt_ hahah
[07:42] <Nathanial> else, http://nshack.dyndns.org/Screenshot.png
[07:42] <unforcer> :O
[07:42] <Seveas> aptitude purge --flush --drown --purge-again windows*
[07:42] <Seveas> else-, sure
[07:42] <aima_> Seveas, it's crashing when I try to use scripts that worked perfectly before
[07:42] <c0rrupt_> porn-get install sex and wine
[07:42] <Seveas> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ /
[07:42] <else-> Nathanial, wait a minute :)
[07:43] <JRlinux> Why can't I play an MP3 on Ubuntu Live?  "Resource busy or not available."
[07:43] <Seveas> JRlinux, you are using a player that does not use esd
[07:44] <JRlinux> Totem?
[07:44] <Seveas> hmm
[07:44] <Seveas> that one should...
[07:44] <carajean> does anyone know anything about nvidia drivers
[07:44] <Seveas> try: lsof /dev/dsp
[07:44] <pirast> yes
[07:44] <pirast> @carajean
[07:44] <Seveas> !tell carajean about nvidia
[07:44] <CookdGryphon> carajean: yes
[07:45] <Scrawny1> ok brb thank-you very much Seveas :)
[07:45] <CookdGryphon> there's one binary package that u download from nvidia's website and it works for most of their graphics cards
[07:45] <Pogopuschel-> carajean: /msg dpkg nvidia
[07:45] <carajean> seveas i cant download anything on those pages u want me to see cause im in console and cant get back to gui
[07:45] <pirast> carajean: or: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[07:46] <Seveas> pirast, ubuntuguide is bad
[07:46] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[07:46] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[07:46] <else-> argh my gimp is crashing, weird.
[07:46] <pirast> I like ubuntuguide :-)
[07:46] <pirast> yes, sorry..
[07:46] <icewt> ubuntuguide is good if you understand what you are doing :)
[07:46] <Seveas> indeed
[07:46] <pirast> I didn't know it :-)
[07:46] <Seveas> it's not a guide
[07:46] <Pogopuschel-> for some people instruction are much better than explanations :))
[07:46] <pirast> Won't happen again :-)
[07:46] <Pogopuschel-> +s
[07:46] <Seveas> and the instructions are rubbish sometimes
[07:47] <geneo93> carajean:  you have to enable drivers
[07:47] <CookdGryphon> Okay, i have compiler and set up mplayer with the gui enabled, now it won't run! gmplayer jstu comes up with command not recognised
[07:47] <pirast> But why doesn't X start up?
[07:47] <carajean> yes now can i do anything anyof u just said ONLY in console not in gui
[07:47] <pirast> yes you can
[07:47] <carajean> i dont know why x wont start
[07:47] <vitriol> is it hard to make a new initrd for an ubuntu kernel?
[07:47] <CookdGryphon> yes u can carajean
[07:48] <vitriol> i'm having the problem described here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13937
[07:48] <Scrawny1> whooohooo it works thx Seaveas :)
[07:48] <else-> Nathanial, http://srv8.qfile.de/operator.php?sysm=file_transfer&sysf=center&file_id=195038&file_name=Screenshot.png.html
[07:48] <CookdGryphon> have u downlaoded anything already?
[07:48] <vitriol> no atiixp module in the intitrd
[07:48] <Scrawny1> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.04 - hoary Kernel: 2.6.10-5-386, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.4.4
[07:48] <Pogopuschel-> you can do even more with your console :)
[07:48] <pirast> carajean: You can do it in the console too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[07:48] <pirast> and now wiki link :-)
[07:48] <geneo93> carajean:  whats the error when you startx
[07:49] <Nathanial> thank you else
[07:50] <Scrawny1> k. I'll bbl thanks again everyone :)
[07:50] <carajean> i get the erro fatal io 104 on x server
[07:50] <carajean> there another one fatal server error caught signal 11 server aborting
[07:50] <Seveas> yay, signal 11
[07:50] <Seveas> that's segfault
[07:50] <else-> no problem Nathanial, does it work?
[07:50] <Seveas> so buggy thing loaded
[07:50] <CookedGryphon> have u updates Xorg.conf to run nvidia instead of nv?
[07:51] <Nathanial> Going to give it a try
[07:51] <carajean> yes
[07:51] <Nathanial> yes it does! YAY! Thanks a million :)
[07:51] <CookedGryphon> have u edited the load "dri" and, what was the other one...
[07:51] <else-> okay, let me know )
[07:51] <Seveas> Option          "RenderAccel"   "false"
[07:51] <else-> yeah, thanks :)
[07:52] <Seveas> ^-- carajean
[07:52] <Seveas> put that in xorg.conf in the device section
[07:52] <carajean> so turn them false
[07:52] <stig_> why is www.irssi.org incredibly slow for me, close to non-working? Most other urls are lightning speed fast (2Mbit connection here and 400kbit up). Using ubuntu for amd64 and mozilla firefox
[07:52] <carajean> yeah both i removed or commmented out
[07:53] <pirast> Fuck.. The holidays are now over :-/
[07:53] <tombs> hi ppl
[07:54] <stig_> hi tombs
[07:54] <glick> damn i hate writting term papers
[07:54] <vitriol> is it hard to make a new initrd for an ubuntu kernel?
[07:54] <vitriol> i'm having the problem described here: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13937
[07:54] <vitriol> no atiixp module in the intitrd
[07:55] <concept10> I need help compiling an app from packages.ubuntu.org, I dont know which one two download
[07:56] <Seveas> concept10, use apt-get source
[07:56] <Seveas> what do you need?
[07:56] <concept10> Seveas, cpufrequtils
[07:56] <Seveas> from hoary or breezy?
[07:57] <concept10> Its only available for breezy, but I need to compile it on Hoary
[07:57] <CookedGryphon> u need to remove the line load "dri" and load "GLCore, add one saying load "glx" when u change nv to nvidia, have u done that in ure Xorg.conf?
[07:57] <EasterSunshine> hey what is the standard way of controlling what deamons will start up?
[07:57] <CookedGryphon> carajean*
[07:57] <Simonth> Hey. I have installed kubuntu,and then I have installed Windows XP Pro. But when I start my computer up it just goes into Windows XP, I cant choose between Linux(kubuntu) and Windows XP - how do I fix it?
[07:57] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, update-rc.d
[07:57] <EasterSunshine> apache2 used to to start up with boot, it doesn't anymore...
[07:57] <Seveas> concept10, hang on
[07:59] <concept10> Simonth, did you install grub at the end of the install process?
[07:59] <carajean> yeah srry i went upstairs to tinker with it
[07:59] <carajean> yes i did that
[07:59] <ubuntuuser> u have to install grub, dot you
[07:59] <carajean> but the glx think it wasnt on there when i first went to tinker
[07:59] <Simonth> concept10, in the linux or windows install?..
[07:59] <CookedGryphon> you have to add that one
[07:59] <concept10> Simonth, oh, thats your problem
[07:59] <Simonth> I had before installed Windows and then Linux, and it was working fine
[07:59] <CookedGryphon> the glx one
[08:00] <Seveas> concept10, the hoary backport will be available in 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ /' in a few minutes (i386 only)
[08:00] <concept10> Simonth, you should have install windows first.
[08:00] <Simonth> But it was Windows XP 64bit, and now I have installed on the same partition, Windows XP Pro 32bit
[08:00] <Simonth> I know...
[08:00] <Simonth> but can I fix it?
[08:00] <concept10> Simonth, Windows overwrites the MBR
[08:00] <Seveas> concept10, actually, it's there now :)
[08:01] <concept10> Seveas, what did you do?
[08:01] <carlos_> www.inforchat.com
[08:01] <Simonth> concept10, okay..but can I fix it? One of my friend have said something about I should type "rescue root=/dev/hda1" when I was booting on my kubuntu cd...but it didnt work
[08:01] <topyli> hrmpf. i forgot how to make mpd and esound work together. now i'll have those graceous system beeps no earlier than tomorrow when i boot
[08:01] <Davey> ugh, I broke my libxml, how can I get a copy of the one in the ubuntu repository to replace the one from Debian unstable? :)
[08:02] <CookedGryphon> carajean: paste your Xorg.conf file into #flood
[08:02] <Seveas> concept10, apt-get source / apt-get build-dep, changed the version to make sure spkg knows it's a backport and ran dpkg-buildpackage :)
[08:02] <concept10> Simonth, you may use a live CD and chroot into your install and install grub.
[08:03] <Simonth> concept10, I have a suse live dvd, can I use that?
[08:03] <topyli> Simonth: whatever you cant boot linux with
[08:03] <concept10> Simonth, any live cd/dvd will work, you have to search somewhere for the instructions though, I forgot how to do it
[08:03] <dubnium> where can i find libdvdcss2..   repository says this: Building dependency tree... Done
[08:03] <dubnium> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:03] <dubnium> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:03] <dubnium> is only available from another source
[08:03] <dubnium> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[08:04] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:04] <Seveas> dubnium, DO NOT paste in here
[08:04] <topyli> dubnium: please don't do that
[08:04] <Simonth> concept10: okay.. :/
[08:04] <webby`> How do I upgrade to Breezy
[08:04] <vitriol> !initrd
[08:04] <webby`> ?
[08:04] <ubotu> No idea, vitriol
[08:04] <concept10> Seveas, thanks. Do I add your repo to my sources  go ahead and do that?
[08:04] <Seveas> webby`, breezy is not stable yet...
[08:04] <topyli> Simonth: what are you trying to do? fix grub?
[08:04] <webby`> but i get no sound in hoary
[08:04] <Seveas> concept10, you can simply add my repo and run apt-get install cpufrequtils :)
[08:05] <Simonth> topyli: yes, so I can switch/change between Linux and Windows
[08:05] <Seveas> webby`, what makes you think breezy will?
[08:05] <silver_cpu> hi, folks. i'm having trouble with apt-get after a fresh installation. it keeps giving me this error: (posted to #flood)
[08:05] <webby`> it did
[08:05] <webby`> i was on it yesterday
[08:05] <Seveas> ok, if you're sure you want to update:
[08:05] <Seveas> webby`: One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[08:05] <topyli> Simonth: so, you boot from whatever; chroot to your root partition; run grub-install
[08:05] <concept10> Seveas, thanks.
[08:05] <topyli> Simonth: (if your grub is ok otherwise)
[08:06] <webby`> thanks
[08:06] <Seveas> concept10, disable my repo after installing cpufrequtils - the server is not online 24/7
[08:06] <CookedGryphon> silver_cpu, i';m getting that message too
[08:06] <blockhead> does xmms actually work in ubuntu?
[08:06] <concept10> Seveas, where could I find instructions on doing what you just did?
[08:06] <Seveas> blockhead, yes
[08:06] <silver_cpu> yeah, i'm tempted to try the distro upgrade that Seveas mentions
[08:06] <EasterSunshine> can someone help me start up apache2?
[08:06] <Seveas> concept10, apt-get install maint-guide :)
[08:06] <dubnium> easter, whats your issue?
[08:06] <Simonth> topyli, I think it is... before I had Linux and Windows XP 64bit and it worked fine...but now I have installed Windows XP 32bit on the same partition (I have formatted the partition first) as Windows 64bit were..
[08:06] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, invoke-rc.d apache2 start
[08:06] <Simonth> topyli: how do I chroot into my linux partition?
[08:07] <tgwj> blockhead, beep-media-player is cooler since ituses GTK2
[08:07] <EasterSunshine> thx seveas
[08:07] <silver_cpu> chroot [root directory of your distro]  /bin/bash
[08:07] <silver_cpu> check out the manpage
[08:07] <lolsville> Two questions. 1. How can I change my username? 2. How can I change the text color in xterm?
[08:07] <EasterSunshine> argh, it failed
[08:07] <CookdGryphon> tgwj: does beep-media player play wma files?
[08:07] <topyli> Simonth: so grub should be ok. you must use fdisk -l to find your root partition after booting to the temporary linux environment. there you will find the partition
[08:07] <Seveas> silver_cpu, /bin/bash can be omitted
[08:07] <silver_cpu> lolsville, try going into "users" under system admin
[08:07] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, paste the appache error.log on the pastebin
[08:07] <Simonth> topyli & silver_cpu: okay
[08:08] <tgwj> CookdGryphon, I doubt it...
[08:08] <topyli> Simonth: then, you "chroot /dev/the-right-partiton"
[08:08] <lolsville> silver_cpu: In gnome? ok
[08:08] <CookdGryphon> tgwj: bugger.
[08:08] <tgwj> CookdGryphon, you need w32codecs and some variation of xine for that... I use totem-xine
[08:08] <lolsville> silver_cpu: Thanks
[08:08] <EasterSunshine> seveas: ah...i see, the mime.types file...
[08:08] <topyli> Simonth: then, you do "grub-install hd=0,0" (not so sure about that)
[08:08] <silver_cpu> lolsville, to change the colors in your terminal, that depends on whether you're in gnome or console
[08:08] <stig_> why is www.irssi.org incredibly slow for me, close to non-working? Most other urls are lightning speed fast (2Mbit connection here and 400kbit up). Using ubuntu for amd64 and mozilla firefox
[08:09] <Seveas> stig_, the server might be busy...
[08:09] <lolsville> silver_cpu: I'm using Ion2 with Xterm
[08:09] <CookdGryphon> tgwj: I have all my medi on my larger windows xp disk, n i don't want to lose all my stuff, but don't ahve owt to back it up to while i install windows, and i'm stingy so don't want to get a new hdd n convert my wmas
[08:09] <CookdGryphon> mplayer plays em but i ahve no media library, have to put the path every time
[08:09] <silver_cpu> xterms are pretty easy to adjust, just go into the "edit" menu, and choose "profile"
[08:10] <silver_cpu> you should be able to edit your current/default profiles from there
[08:10] <Simonth> topyli: it says "command not found" when I type "fdisk -l"
[08:10] <Seveas> don't use the quotes
[08:10] <tgwj> CookdGryphon, yeah mplayer and xine are pretty similiar...
[08:10] <Seveas> just type sudo fdisk -l
[08:10] <topyli> Simonth: it's not in your environment apparently. try /bin/fdisk
[08:10] <silver_cpu> lolsville, actually try "edit" then "current profile" to get best results
[08:10] <tgwj> gtg bye
[08:10] <stig_> Seveas: it worked fine for a dude under windows XP
[08:11] <Simonth> topyli: Iam running the Suse Live DVD 9.3 right now. I try
[08:11] <lolsville> silver_cpu: Ok
[08:11] <Simonth> topyli: dosent work either
[08:11] <topyli> grr
[08:11] <topyli> Simonth: i always said suse sucks :)
[08:11] <topyli> Simonth: perhaps they only have cfdisk or some such fancy weeny programs
[08:11] <Simonth> topyli: about that things..yes... ;) it was a free DVD..the only reason to I ordered it :P
[08:12] <Seveas> stig_, try disabling ipv6 lookups in firefox
[08:12] <Seveas> stig_: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[08:12] <EasterSunshine> what username should apache2 startup as? it does not have permission to write /var/run/httpd.pid ? or should i just chmod that dir?
[08:13] <rlared> hello, i was wondering if anyone that uses ubuntu has used MEPIS in the past, and if they could give me some insight as to why they like ubuntu better?
[08:14] <topyli> Simonth: don't worry, honestly this is not a big deal. we just have to fix it
[08:14] <Simonth> topyli: Okay..but I have take backups of all the files .. ;)
[08:14] <Simonth> topyli: But right now I have a problem - my time..I should go now..20:15, and actually it is 20:14..
[08:15] <prakash> how can i install bin files
[08:15] <topyli> Simonth: btw, it would be smart to pass an argument to fdisk anyways, like /bin/fdisk -l /dev/hda or something :)
[08:15] <prakash> how can i install bin files plz
[08:15] <topyli> Simonth: hurry up! fix it!
[08:16] <topyli> Simonth: bad joke, sorry
[08:16] <prakash> does someone know how i can use bin files
[08:16] <concept10> Seveas, take a look at this please: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1479
[08:16] <Simonth> topyli: ;) but fdisk is not installed..
[08:16] <topyli> prakash: normally, you don't
[08:16] <prakash> ok
[08:16] <topyli> Simonth: but any fdisk variant would like to know which disk to work on :)
[08:16] <prakash> i dowloaded realplayer10
[08:17] <prakash> and it had a bin extention
[08:17] <Seveas> concept10, either use apt-get to install the package from my repository or use apt-get install libcpufreq0
[08:17] <CookedGryphon> prakash, u jstu run it
[08:17] <concept10> okay.
[08:17] <CookedGryphon> cd ot the dir its in and type./RealPlayer10*.bin
[08:17] <guest> guest have joined
[08:18] <guest> what is it that you talk about
[08:18] <topyli> prakash: throw it away, apt-get a real package from multiverse
[08:18] <CookedGryphon> prakash, u may have to su first tho 4 it to work
[08:18] <Simonth> topyli: Iam in debian installer rescue mode right now..and right now I can type linux commands, example cd /home/simon ...and my files are there...
[08:18] <Seveas> guest, this is a support channel for Ubuntu (A linux distribution)
[08:18] <topyli> Simonth: that's better. they must have fdisk too
[08:18] <CookedGryphon> prakash, also RealPlayer conflicts with esd in my experience, u';ll  need to change to OSS or summat
[08:19] <Simonth> topyli: yes, there are fdisk..
[08:19] <topyli> CookedGryphon: yes, you'll have to configure esd to live with clueless third-party apps
[08:19] <Simonth> topyli: but how?
[08:19] <topyli> Simonth: so, "fdisk -l /dev/hda"
[08:20] <topyli> Simonth: so you find out for sure where to chroot
[08:20] <Simonth> topyli: it says, "f: unknown command"..."command action" "a toggle a bootable flag" and so on...
[08:20] <topyli> Simonth: press q to get out of fdisk, just use fdisk -l
[08:21] <Simonth> topyli: cannot open /proc/parititions
[08:21] <topyli> hrmpf
[08:21] <Simonth> topyli: I NEED to go now, so see you later.
[08:21] <topyli> we'll fix it later :)
[08:22] <benplaut> quit a slew of updates for breezy today
[08:22] <sammie> hey
[08:23] <sammie> how easy would it be for a girl , yes a girl to setup a default apache installation
[08:23] <sammie> ?
[08:23] <calc> sammie: as easy as anyone else?
[08:23] <glick> sammie, depends on what kind of girl
[08:23] <Seveas> sammie, ease of use does not depend on gender
[08:24] <HappyFool> 'sudo aptitude install apache2' is alleged to work for people of all ages and sexes
[08:24] <Seveas> and samba requires only installation to get a decent setup
[08:24] <Seveas> samba?
[08:24] <Seveas> apache I mean
[08:24] <vladuz976> is there a linux version of google earth?
[08:24] <Seveas> vladuz976, no(t yet?)
[08:24] <vladuz976> shooot
[08:24] <Seveas> and no, it does not want to run with wine/cedega :)
[08:25] <vladuz976> Seveas, reading my mind there
[08:25] <Seveas> :)
[08:25] <asfra> hi, I have a nfts-partition on the beginning of my harddrive and I want to make that an ext3-partition. Do I risk destroying anything important? like bios or anything used to boot? I know that linux doesn't use MBR but want to be sure :) thanks...
[08:26] <sammie> k installed.......... where the hell would i begin to look for config files etc, not too driven on security issues is for lan use
[08:26] <vladuz976> anybody know what flashgot for firefox does?
[08:26] <Seveas> asfra, grub uses mbr....
[08:26] <CookedGryphon> yep, it configures firefox to use an external download manager such as aria
[08:26] <data-nerd> Hi people
[08:26] <HappyFool> sammie: /etc/apache2
[08:26] <Seveas> but: apart from the data on it, you'll loose nothing by formatting it
[08:26] <str8edge> asfra: you shouldn't "destroy anything" except for the data on the partition
[08:27] <Seveas> sammie, then don't change any config
[08:27] <asfra> Seveas: I didn't install grub in mbr, I think I installed it in /boot
[08:27] <Seveas> go to http://localhost/ -- it's running already :)
[08:27] <Seveas> asfra, that's only stage 2, stage 1 is in the mbr
[08:27] <sammie> i may have to change of the lines , i want it to run on differant port that 80 ........................
[08:27] <sammie> 1 of*
[08:27] <Seveas> sammie, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[08:27] <data-nerd> I have reinstalled XP after ubuntu..., I have a program that give me access to the ubuntu files..., can i fix it from win??????
[08:27] <Seveas> look for 'Listen 80'
[08:27] <Seveas> and change it to what you want
[08:28] <str8edge> data-net, you'll have to fix grub
[08:28] <asfra> Seveas: but do you think MBR is in the nfts-partiton? anyway I can check?
[08:28] <Seveas> sammie, actually, it's in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[08:28] <benplaut> what happened with the 145 updates for breezy in the last 2 days? did something really big happen?
[08:28] <guest> someone please talk to guest
[08:28] <Seveas> asfra, it's not IN the partition, you will not destroy it by formatting the partition
[08:28] <data-nerd> str8edge, how...?
[08:28] <guest> i am waiting,
[08:28] <Seveas> guest, did you have a question?
[08:29] <guest> yes, how are you first
[08:29] <sammie> is it installed to run on startup or needs to be manualy started ? (sorry for all questions)
[08:29] <Seveas> if not, this is not a channel for off-topic talking -- please do that somewhere else
[08:29] <str8edge> data-nerd: you will need to boot using a bootable linux cd (such as the hoary live disc)
[08:29] <eruin> does anyone have a logitech mouse with working scrollwheel here?
[08:29] <guest> should i get mad?
[08:29] <Seveas> sammie, it will run on bootup
[08:29] <HappyFool> sammie: as seveas said, it's running already; it will by default be started at boot
[08:29] <data-nerd> str8edge, and then?
[08:29] <guest> what's this then
[08:29] <str8edge> data-nerd: then mount your partition, and install grub
[08:29] <silver_cpu> guest, what is your question
[08:29] <sammie> thanx you two, great help :)
[08:30] <data-nerd> str8edge: mount?:S
[08:30] <Seveas> guest, this is a support channel, not a general chat channel
[08:30] <sammie> now ill just sit and read the readme for 10/15 mins :)
[08:30] <benplaut> now that i think of it, what's the ubuntu dev channel?
[08:30] <guest> i get you, sory
[08:30] <asfra> str8edge: thanks for the reply, do you think that the MBR could be on the nfts-partition? it used to contain xp
[08:30] <Seveas> benplaut, #ubuntu-devel
[08:30] <str8edge> data-nerd: mounting makes the hard drive available under linux
[08:30] <benplaut> ah
[08:30] <Seveas> but don't mistake development for breezy support..
[08:31] <HappyFool> asfra: the mbr is the first 512 (or so) bytes of the disk -- it's not on any of the partitions
[08:31] <benplaut> i just noticed the /topic
[08:31] <data-nerd> str8edge, yea, but how do i mount??
[08:31] <str8edge> asfra: most likely not, XP looks for the MBR in the first 512 bytes of the HD. Linux allows you to install the mbrs into the first part of a partition, XP doesn't
[08:31] <HappyFool> !grub
[08:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:31] <glick> data-nerd, man mount
[08:31] <str8edge> data-nerd: man mount
[08:32] <asfra> HappyFool: thank you...
[08:32] <glick> heh
[08:32] <concept10> Seveas, thanks for doing that for me.  I still cannot set the maximum frequency using those utils..this really irks me
[08:32] <str8edge> data-nerd: or, mount -t ext3 /dev/<partition> /<target>
[08:32] <HappyFool> eish, when i asked for hot i didn't mean quite *this* spicy
[08:32] <sammie> just a last one for Seveas/happyfool, changed port in ports.conf , way of restarting it to listen from new changed config ?
[08:33] <data-nerd> str8edge, do it work with man mount only???
[08:33] <HappyFool> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:33] <str8edge> !man
[08:33] <ubotu> str8edge: I don't know
[08:33] <str8edge> data-nerd: man is the command to display the man page.
[08:33] <str8edge> data-nerd: man=manual
[08:33] <data-nerd> str8edge, ok
[08:34] <data-nerd> str8edge, cya
[08:34] <data-nerd> str8edge, i tyr
[08:34] <data-nerd> str8edge, tanks for the help :)
[08:34] <HappyFool> as in Read The Find Man-page
[08:34] <str8edge> happyfool: i just did it last week :)
[08:36] <str8edge> fixed my linux problem, not to fix samba.. anyone in here GOOD with samba?
[08:36] <data-nerd> Ho again str8edge
[08:36] <data-nerd> Hi*
[08:36] <belzebu> hello
[08:36] <str8edge> data-nerd: hi..
[08:36] <data-nerd> str8edge, cant I fix it from win? I have access to the files
[08:37] <HappyFool> str8edge: i don't claim to be a guru, but let's hear your problem anyway?
[08:37] <str8edge> you need to re-run the grub-install problem
[08:37] <data-nerd> str8edge, ok
[08:37] <data-nerd> str8edge, cya later
[08:37] <titanium> is port 21 disabled by default or something in ubuntu? i set up proftpd and on a random port like 4000, the server works, but on 21, it does not
[08:37] <HappyFool> tell data-nerd to read the wiki page next time; the instructions are pretty complete, afaik
[08:38] <str8edge> My Samba box is no longer visible.. nothing has changed since yesterday morning on my server or the laptop
[08:39] <HappyFool> titanium: not afaik; have you enabled the firewall?
[08:39] <HappyFool> str8edge: hmm. is the samba share visible from the server? (i presume that's where samba is running)
[08:39] <titanium> HappyFool: no unless it's on by default
[08:40] <HappyFool> titanium: it isn't
[08:40] <str8edge> happyfool: nothing sees it anymore, except when i'm logged into the server..
[08:40] <titanium> /etc/init.d/proftpd restart, either on 21 or 4000 both start fine, but on 4000 i can connect fine from my windows machine on the lan -- 21 it doesn't respond, service not available
[08:40] <str8edge> titanium: try running "fuser -n tcp 21"
[08:41] <HappyFool> str8edge: so if you're logged into the server it works?
[08:41] <str8edge> happyfool: however this morning, i can't even browse.. I know how to troubleshoot the problem, but I have no clue how my laptop and desktop machine are both suddenly messing up, and giving different problems
[08:41] <ogg> hi, im currently using ubuntu warty on my computer. Now I want to make a fresh new install of ubuntu hoary (minimal/server-install also). Got any ideas?
[08:41] <str8edge> happyfool: yup
[08:41] <titanium> str8edge: 21/tcp:               4891
[08:42] <str8edge> ogg: you just need to update your repositorys (/etc/apt/sources.list) and run a dist-upgrade
[08:42] <HappyFool> titanium: how about ftp'ing to localhost from your ubuntu machine? does that work?
[08:42] <str8edge> titanium: now run "ps -ef | grep 4891"
[08:42] <titanium> root@opti:/home/garrett # ftp localhost 21
[08:42] <titanium> Connected to localhost.localdomain.
[08:42] <titanium> 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[08:42] <HappyFool> str8edge: i can't imagine why samba would only work when you're logged in; sounds very bizarre
[08:42] <titanium> str8edge: root      4891     1  0 Aug19 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
[08:43] <titanium> hmm is inetd blocking it?
[08:43] <str8edge> titanium: looks that way, proftpd can run in daemon mode or as a inetd client.. if you look at the proftpd faq it explains how to configure it.
[08:44] <titanium> it's set to run as standalone, not using inetd
[08:44] <lui> how do I use the fsck command when my filesystem is mounted?
[08:44] <str8edge> titanium: you may also be able to run dpkg-reconfigure proftpd
[08:44] <str8edge> titanium: then edit your /etc/inetd.conf and comment out any ftp related lines.
[08:44] <str8edge> lui: don't.. use a bootable cd, like the hoary live cd
[08:45] <str8edge> !fsck
[08:45] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, str8edge
[08:45] <titanium> hmm maybe it wasn't running as standalone, i tried dpkg-reconfig and set it and now i can connect localhost 21 :)
[08:45] <EasterSunshine> ubotu doesn't know what the fsck you are talking about
[08:45] <str8edge> titanium: enjoy!
[08:45] <ubotu> okay, EasterSunshine
[08:45] <titanium> str8edge: thanks a lot
[08:45] <EasterSunshine> uh oh, what did i just teach him...
[08:45] <ogg> can somebody help me, I dont know how my sources.list should look like.
[08:46] <lui> str8edge > thanks
[08:46] <str8edge> titanium: no problem.
[08:46] <titanium> !ubotu
[08:46] <HappyFool> !repos
[08:46] <c0rrupt_> !tell ogg about repos
[08:46] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:46] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:46] <HappyFool> ogg -- see the second like under repos above; the first one may be useful too
[08:46] <ogg> thanks guys
[08:46] <str8edge> lui: running fsck on a mounted partition is dangerous (data loss)
[08:46] <titanium> doesn't know what the fsck you created by EasterSunshine!n=EasterSu@pool-70-18-21-223.ny325.east.verizon.n on 22 Aug 2005 04:45
[08:46] <titanium> requested 0 times
[08:46] <titanium> nice one :)
[08:46] <HappyFool> heh
[08:47] <zoexi> hello, I need to print (via cups) to a shared printer named "deskjet5550" plugged into a computer with hostname "emac" at ip address "192.168.0.101".  I can't figure out how to make a cups url out of this...
[08:47] <HappyFool> !forget doesn't know what the fsck you
[08:47] <ubotu> HappyFool: i forgot doesn't know what the fsck you
[08:47] <codomanaic> !fluxbox
[08:47] <ubotu> Not a clue, codomanaic
[08:48] <sammie> im baaaack
[08:48] <sammie> =/
[08:48] <HappyFool> zoexi: this is a real shot in the dark, but how about http://emac:631 ?
[08:48] <EasterSunshine> ubotu forget doesn't know what the fsck you
[08:48] <ubotu> EasterSunshine: i didn't have anything called 'doesn't know what the fsck you'
[08:48] <str8edge> happyfool: i'm just going to trash the samba config on the server, and then reconfigure it and each of the workstations, running through the samba troubleshooting guide didn't help.
[08:48] <sammie> if you remember me asking about apache just 20mins ago seveas/happyfool it now says on my other pc i do not have permission to access index.html
[08:48] <dubnium> hrmm.. any idea why xine crashes immediatly?
[08:48] <zoexi> HappyFool:  where does 631 come from?
[08:49] <HappyFool> zoexi: the port number cups listens on; i really don't know if it'll work
[08:49] <sammie> dubnium coukd be the audio plugin you have selected as your output
[08:49] <HappyFool> sammie: does it work from the ubuntu machine though?
[08:49] <sammie> could*
[08:49] <sammie> hmm good question lmao,
[08:49] <sammie> not it dont =\
[08:50] <anacron> hey guys, i bought better graphics card(asus 6600 gt pci-e 256mb) and i can't get it work in 3d mode, gnome works fine, but i can't run any 3d applications
[08:50] <lolsville> How do you scroll in xterm using the keyboard?
[08:50] <sammie> my english is shocking and i am english
[08:50] <str8edge> anacron: you need to use the nvidia binary packages
[08:50] <str8edge> !nvida
[08:50] <ubotu> str8edge: Syntax error in line 1
[08:50] <str8edge> !nvidia
[08:50] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[08:50] <dubnium> i cant even run the app else it'll take me back to login
[08:50] <titanium> can anyone do me a favour and test my ftp to see if they can connect? i'll pm you the info
[08:51] <anacron> str8edge: im using them already, but they won't work
[08:51] <HappyFool> sammie: index.html needs to be readable by the 'nobody' user, i think
[08:51] <DrSpin> if user 'me' in group 'this' copies a file to /media/music which is owned by 'root' and in the group 'this' -- the result of the copied file is 'me' for owner and 'this' for group correct??
[08:51] <sammie> cool ill try that happfool thanx
[08:51] <anacron> i also reconfigured xserver-xorg, and reinstalled all nvidia stuff
[08:51] <str8edge> anacron: what ubuntu version are you using, warty, hoary, or breezy?
[08:51] <HappyFool> sammie: you can look in the apache logs for clues to the problem; the logs are in /var/log/apache2
[08:51] <Seveas> titanium, hit me :)
[08:51] <anacron> str8edge: hoary
[08:51] <sammie> it could be the problem only root can read it ? if i ccreated it with root
[08:51] <sammie> just a thought
[08:51] <sammie> gonna walk back to server now
[08:51] <anacron> str8edge: and the weird thing is that previous card i had was msi 6600 non-gt and it worked perfectly
[08:51] <str8edge> anacron: what happens when you try?
[08:51] <HappyFool> sammie: yip. make it world-readable
[08:52] <str8edge> anacron: i
[08:52] <anacron> str8edge: ?
[08:52] <str8edge> anacron: i'm using a pci 6600 gt and its working under hoary. what error do you get?
[08:52] <sammie> nice
[08:52] <sammie> yeh only root could read it, my fault :)
[08:52] <sammie> i just opend a text file and quickly created a page :)
[08:52] <ogg> how do I check free hd space?
[08:52] <sammie> without thinking
[08:52] <str8edge> ogg: df -h
[08:53] <ogg> tanks
[08:53] <anacron> str8edge: which error you would like to see?, cedega error perhaps, point to play gives me "opengl does not work" notification and if i check nvidia-settings there's not all the stuff there should be
[08:53] <anacron> ?
[08:54] <ogg> How do I uninstall gnome and add fluxbox instead? (and let it be my default window manager)
[08:54] <sammie> Thanx again HappyFool
[08:54] <HappyFool> sammie: cool
[08:54] <HappyFool> ogg: there's a fluxbox package in universe; i guess you'll need to install that
[08:54] <anacron> ogg: install fluxbox with synaptic, or what ever, then log out, change the session to fluxbox, make it default when it asks, and then remove gnome with synaptic
[08:55] <ogg> thanks. ill try it out.
[08:55] <str8edge> anacron: i haven't use cedega
[08:55] <c0rrupt_> flux owns
[08:55] <ogg> :)
[08:55] <c0rrupt_> i use kde though
[08:55] <ogg> what about Enlightment 17? is it good?
[08:55] <ogg> ive heard its fast
[08:55] <ogg> snappy
[08:56] <c0rrupt_> dunno
[08:56] <anacron> str8edge: wan't to see what i get if i try run glxgears?
[08:56] <benplaut> i bit feature deprived
[08:56] <Spug> if i apt-get kubuntu-desktop, what will happen with gdm and kdm?
[08:56] <str8edge> anacron: sure
[08:56] <anacron> ogg: it looks great, and it really is fast, but i think it's not quite ready yet
[08:56] <benplaut> Spug: it will stay with gdm
[08:56] <ogg> anacron. ok
[08:56] <benplaut> but you can use BUM to change it to KDM
[08:57] <anacron> ogg: but it's worth of trying, theres a how to in ubuntu forums
[08:57] <ogg> but when ive installed (apt-get install fluxbox) and reboot. will I be able to change window manager in login-screen?
[08:57] <ogg> aight
[08:57] <anacron> ogg: you can also mix e17 and gnome :)
[08:57] <Spug> benplaut: aha, okay, thanks :)
[08:57] <anacron> str8edge: can i paste them to you private?
[08:57] <Spug> ogg: yes, you can change in login
[08:57] <str8edge> anacron: yeah
[08:57] <anacron> ogg: you don't have to reboot
[08:58] <ogg> ok
[08:58] <anacron> ogg: just log out :)
[08:58] <ogg> ctrl + alt + backspace?
[08:58] <benplaut> NO
[08:58] <titanium> what's the best way to transfer files to and from my ubuntu machine from a windows xp machine? currently i'm using normal ftp.
[08:59] <Seveas> samba?
[08:59] <dalamar> my keyboard is possesed, sometimes it works, sometimes only certain keys work, sometimes even though I hit a key once it justs keeps hitting it like im holding it down, sometimes it just plain turns off, its a basic ps2 keyboard, and granted it was 7 dollars so it may just be the crap keyboard but was wondering if it maybe be a config error or something?
[08:59] <titanium> !samba
[08:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:59] <titanium> i have samba shares set up already on my chipped xbox so it shouldn't be too hard to set it up in ubuntu
[09:00] <DekaPink> Hey all... I'm trying to run the linux version of Tibia... and it's giving me a "No server running on host" area... and someone helped me fix it a time before and now I can't remember what to do... something about having to add the port number to... Something.
[09:02] <Jhonny> algum pode me responder qual ser o boot loader do breezy?
[09:02] <benplaut> !fr
[09:02] <ubotu> [fr]  Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:02] <EasterSunshine> that does not look like french...
[09:02] <benplaut> hmm
[09:02] <Jhonny> not
[09:03] <Jhonny> portuguese
[09:03] <benplaut> !pr
[09:03] <ubotu> benplaut: What?
[09:03] <benplaut> !po
[09:03] <ubotu> benplaut: I don't know
[09:03] <benplaut> hmm
[09:03] <CookedGryphon> i get it as summat like what will the bootloader b for breezy
[09:03] <CookedGryphon> spanish perhaps
[09:03] <Jhonny> but, please, can someone knows which one wil be the boot loader
[09:03] <benplaut> RUB
[09:04] <benplaut> *GRUB
[09:04] <dalamar> probably grub, why would they change?
[09:04] <Jhonny> thanks
[09:04] <Jhonny> i don't know. i'm a ubuntu-br translator
[09:04] <EasterSunshine> that makes me want to go in #ubuntu-fr and try to compose who sentences
[09:04] <EasterSunshine> s/who/whole
[09:05] <Jhonny> and i saw lilo there
[09:05] <DekaPink> Anyone know what I have to do? :D
[09:05] <EasterSunshine> DekaPink: you have to ask a question...what are you trying to do?
[09:05] <EasterSunshine> oh nvm, i see it
[09:06] <benplaut> Jhonny, lilo is optional, but GRUB is and will be the deafault
[09:07] <DekaPink> EasterSunshine: I'm trying to use Tibia, but I forgot what I have to do to let Ubuntu let it... access my connection, or whatever. ^^
[09:07] <lui> str8edge, now i'm using the live cd. how do I use the fsck on my hardrive filesystem_
[09:07] <EasterSunshine> DekaPink: sry i have no clue what tibia is
[09:07] <lui> _
[09:07] <lui> ?
[09:07] <EasterSunshine> it sounds like a bone in my leg
[09:07] <str8edge> what's the boot partiton you need to fsck?
[09:07] <phanter> hello, is there a way to move the directory of evolution from the home folder to an other folder?
[09:07] <frequency> does anyone have any problems with file transfers in Gaim?
[09:07] <lui> hda
[09:07] <EasterSunshine> oh...i get it fsck=filesystem check...
[09:07] <^^frank^^> When I plug a USB device it hasn't auto-mounted and I can't see icon on desktop. How fix?
[09:08] <DekaPink> EasterSunshine: It's an online RPG... I need to add the port it needs to access to... something... to make it work, but I can't remember what.
[09:08] <str8edge> lui: whats the partition you want to check.
[09:08] <lui> str8edge, the hda partition
[09:08] <EasterSunshine> frequency: yes, it cannot do them. try setting a static nat from your router to your box so it bypasses the firewall
[09:08] <frequency> lui: hda's a disk, not a partition
[09:08] <str8edge> lui: do you know which number?
[09:09] <lui> I think is 0
[09:09] <pcharky> ^^frank^^: open a terminal, run dmesg | tail -n 20 and paste to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:09] <EasterSunshine> frequency: but that will the interenet to access the ports on your box
[09:09] <frequency> EasterSunshine: you mean Gaim doesn't work behind a firewall?
[09:09] <str8edge> lui: hd(0) in grub is hda in linux.
[09:09] <frequency> er.. won't transfer files
[09:09] <str8edge> oops
[09:09] <str8edge> lui: hd(0) in grub is hda1 in linux.
[09:09] <te[a] bag> hey guys, i got a question, anyone willing to help me out?
[09:09] <EasterSunshine> frequency: i am not sure but that is what i think, it picks some odd ports to do the trasnder in
[09:10] <pcharky> te[a] bag: ask your question.
[09:10] <^^frank^^> pcharky : ok tnks
[09:10] <lui> str8edge, there is only ubuntu in the IDE0 of my pc
[09:10] <te[a] bag> thanks
[09:10] <te[a] bag> ok
[09:10] <frequency> EasterSunshine: the firewall shouldn't have anything to do with outgoing file transfers, though, should it?
[09:10] <te[a] bag> my apt-get upgrade isnt working
[09:10] <CookedGryphon> I have downloaded a game in a .jar thingy,how do i run it? i also have the latest java runtime from www.java.com cos limewire needed it anyway
[09:10] <te[a] bag> it freezes at 23%
[09:10] <EasterSunshine> frequency: outgoing, no
[09:10] <str8edge> lui: fsck.ext3 /dev/hda1 should do it then.
[09:10] <te[a] bag> and it says connection timed out
[09:11] <iungo> java -jar yourpacke.jar
[09:11] <te[a] bag> im a little stuck as to what to do about it :/
[09:11] <pcharky> te[a] bag: please include my nick in replies... your messages will popup in red, which is nice since i'm lazy. ;)
[09:11] <frequency> EasterSunshine: also, my roommate and i are both on the same side of the firewall and we can't send them back and forth to each other.  i can't figure it out..  i've heard of people being able to send files in Gaim, though..
[09:11] <lui> str8edge, ok then. thanks again.
[09:11] <EasterSunshine> frequency: file transfer is actually not considered a feature of gaim, i believe
[09:11] <snorks> is there a 64 bit xmms version yet?
[09:11] <te[a] bag> ok hehe sorry pcharky
[09:11] <frequency> ouch
[09:12] <te[a] bag> pcharky: my apt-get upgrade isnt working, it freezes at 23%, and it says connection timed out, im a little stuck as to what to do about it :/
[09:12] <pcharky> te[a] bag: can you connect to internet with other means (firefox, irc)?
[09:12] <te[a] bag> pcharky: i can connect via ftp on the command line, and telnet, but i can connect via firefox
[09:13] <te[a] bag> *cant
[09:13] <^^frank^^> pcharky : done
[09:13] <CookedGryphon> thanks iungo
[09:13] <pcharky> te[a] bag: what's in: /etc/resolv.conf
[09:13] <spiral> te[a] bag: lol.. which one's a can't ?
[09:13] <pcharky> te[a] bag: paste to pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:14] <te[a] bag> spiral: lol firefox is the "cant"
[09:14] <te[a] bag> pcharky: ok ill check
[09:14] <pcharky> ^^frank^^: hmm, do you have an url? I don't get new posts when i refresh.
[09:14] <pcharky> ^^frank^^: got it, sorry.
[09:14] <^^frank^^> pcharky: apologies, the url is: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1480
[09:15] <anacron> amm, there are few antivirus softwares for linux, are those for deleting linux viruses, or the windows ones?
[09:15] <DekaPink> If I need to access a specific port number and I'm not able to... What do I need to do? :3
[09:15] <derek> hey, i am using the warty livecd (i have breezy installed on my machine but its broken, so i popped in the warty live cd) and i am having a problem. On my screen, at evenly placed intervals there are colored boxes. can someone help me with this?
[09:15] <te[a] bag> pcharky: nameserver 192.168.1.1
[09:15] <geneo93> clamav anacron
[09:16] <Seveas> anacron, they delete windows viruses too
[09:16] <stig___> hi
[09:16] <Seveas> at least clamav does that
[09:16] <pcharky> te[a] bag: can you connect to that? ping 192.168.1.1
[09:17] <te[a] bag> pcharky: yea it replies
[09:17] <Django> list
[09:17] <te[a] bag> pcharky: its my router, so i should hope i can connect to that ;)
[09:18] <pcharky> ^^frank^^: you can mount the drive manually, create a mount point on the filesystem, and use the mount command to mount it ;)
[09:18] <asfra> hi, I just converted a ntfs partition to ext3, gparted says that it is hidden, how can I unhide it so that I can use it? thanks...
[09:19] <derek> anyone?
[09:20] <asfra> I guess the fact that it is hidden is the reason why it isn't metioned in /etc/fstab
[09:20] <^^frank^^> pcharky: eheh ;-) anyway this happens on Breezy on Hoary all was ok
[09:20] <geneo93> derek:  reboot
[09:20] <pcharky> ^^frank^^: yeah, breezy still needs work :)
[09:21] <asfra> !unhide
[09:21] <ubotu> I don't know, asfra
[09:22] <pcharky> te[a] bag: do you have a 'default' entry when you run: route
[09:23] <sam__> Hello, I'm new to this, I am trying to install Skype for Linux. Do I fallow the directions for the rpm version or the tar.bz2 version. I am running Ubuntu and I am trying to install the debian package version.
[09:23] <sam__> Any help is appriciated.
[09:23] <asfra> sam__ read www.ubuntuguide.com
[09:23] <asfra> it says how to install
[09:23] <asfra> by using apt
[09:24] <sam__> Okay, thanks, I'll check it out.
[09:24] <te[a] bag> pcharky: default         mygateway1.ar7  0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[09:24] <asfra> hi, I just converted a ntfs partition to ext3, gparted says that it is hidden, how can I unhide it so that I can use it? thanks...
[09:25] <data-nerd> how to mount a disk????
[09:25] <data-nerd> mount xxx
[09:25] <phanter> how can I make a symbolic link like: ln <home folder on ext3> <some folder on fat32>
[09:26] <asfra> data-nerd: the partition is hidden so I cant mount it...
[09:26] <data-nerd> asfra, i shall mount a ext3
[09:26] <sew3521> hello im brand new to the linux OS can someone point me in the right direction to a good guide to learn it?
[09:26] <manu_> does some one now the source to add for mplayer
[09:26] <manu_> ?
[09:26] <manu_> some how i can find it
[09:26] <asfra> data-nerd: me too
[09:26] <manu_> with apt
[09:26] <Seveas> manu_, multiverse
[09:26] <Seveas> !sources
[09:26] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:27] <data-nerd> asfra, it is possible!
[09:27] <DekaPink> Does anyone have any experience with running tibia on ubuntu? :3
[09:27] <data-nerd> asfra, but  how?
[09:27] <Seveas> sew3521, www.tldp.org
[09:27] <sew3521> thanks
[09:27] <asfra> data-nerd: look in /etc/fstab and man -a mount
[09:27] <dalamar> i swear no one reads the wiki
[09:27] <Mestapheles> anybody know if one needs to create gaps between music data tracks being recorded as 'raw music to CD' to allow for track searches on regu cd players?
[09:27] <Seveas> phanter, ln -s /path/to/source /path/to/destination
[09:27] <asfra> data-nerd: I guess you know more than me however :)
[09:28] <data-nerd> How do I mount a ext3 partition?
[09:28] <data-nerd> asfra, no:P
[09:28] <Seveas> data-nerd, with mount
[09:28] <Seveas> see the manpage for mount for details
[09:28] <data-nerd> seveas, didn't understand it currently...
[09:28] <asfra> data-nerd: I guess you know more than me however :)
[09:28] <Seveas> the sort version: mount -t ext3 /dev/YOUR_DISK /path/to/mountpoint
[09:28] <data-nerd> it is disk 0, partition 3 i think
[09:28] <data-nerd> ext3
[09:28] <asfra> data-nerd: or you should change your name :P
[09:29] <snorks> mount /dev/hdaX (where x is the partition) /home/data-nerd/drittstasjon <- f.eks.
[09:29] <snorks> data-nerd: husk at du maa mekke dir hvor du skal mounte den
[09:29] <tristanmike> 'ello all
[09:29] <pcharky> te[a] bag: can you ping to an outside ip?
[09:29] <ntldr> Hi. I'm trying to install nvidia drivers but it asks for kernel source. How do I get it?
[09:29] <sew3521> I only have read only attributes for menu.lst (for Grub) how can i get write attributes?
[09:29] <data-nerd> snorks hva er root p disken da?
[09:29] <te[a] bag> pcharky: yea i can
[09:29] <Seveas> data-nerd, snorks, stick to english in here please
[09:30] <snorks> data-nerd: root on your disk is probably hmm. sec
[09:30] <pcharky> te[a] bag: and to a doman name?
[09:30] <te[a] bag> pcharky: i have ssh running on there if thats any easier to poke around in?
[09:30] <Mestapheles> solo ingles aqui?
[09:30] <asfra> Seveas: to unhide a partition do I have to do something to grub?
[09:30] <Seveas> asfra, only if you hid it with grub before...
[09:30] <te[a] bag> pcharky: yea i can
[09:31] <Seveas> !es
[09:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:31] <Seveas> ^-- Mestapheles
[09:31] <Mestapheles> I'm joking
[09:31] <asfra> Seveas: I guess it was automatically hidden because it used to be an nfts partition which linux can't see
[09:32] <sew3521> linux cant read ntfs partitions right?
[09:32] <pcharky> te[a] bag: that's wierd, what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list? paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:32] <Seveas> asfra, grub does not automatically hide anything
[09:32] <data-nerd> snorks, om
[09:32] <data-nerd> pm*
[09:32] <MrGardenHoseMan> .dll file are strctly windows right?
[09:32] <ntldr> Where do I get the kernel source?
[09:32] <MrGardenHoseMan> files*
[09:33] <geneo93> yeah it can read ntfs
[09:33] <no_gatez_fan> can read no write
[09:33] <Seveas> MrGardenHoseMan, not per se
[09:33] <sew3521> how do i make it so i can read my ntfs drive?
[09:33] <Seveas> C# uses dll files too
[09:33] <Seveas> sew3521: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[09:34] <sew3521> ok thanks seveas
[09:34] <barongas> Where can I find the source for ubuntu kernel 2.6.10? It's not on my apt source.list
[09:34] <Seveas> linux-source-2.6.10 - but you generally do not need it, not even for compiling drivers...
[09:34] <pcharky> barongas: apt-get install linux-source-2.6
[09:35] <barongas> Seveas: I need it to install my apt-drivers
[09:35] <pcharky> barongas: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 sorry
[09:35] <barongas> pcharky: Thanks
[09:35] <ntldr> Sorry for repeating. I'm trying to install nvidia drivers but it asks for kernel source. How do I get it?
[09:35] <Seveas> barongas, usually linux-headers-$(uname -r) is enough
[09:35] <Seveas> ntldr, don't use drivers from nvidia.com.
[09:36] <ntldr> but where?
[09:36] <Seveas> if you had paid attention, we just told barongas ...
[09:36] <lui> Seveas, how can i make the knotes run everytime I log in ubuntu?
[09:36] <dalamar> !nvidia
[09:36] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[09:36] <barongas> Seveas: Yeah, used to debians kernel-source-uname -r
[09:36] <Seveas> aff it to your session - no idea how that works in kde
[09:36] <manu_> sorry but wich source is it exactly for mplayer... they are too much ??
[09:36] <Seveas> manu_, multiverse
[09:37] <manu_> deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:37] <manu_> ?
[09:38] <lui> Seveas, how can i make the knotes run everytime I log in ubuntu?
[09:38] <pcharky> te[a] bag: did you just post your sources.list?
[09:38] <Seveas> I just told you
[09:38] <Zodiac> What the heck is knotes?
[09:38] <Seveas> add it to your session - no idea how that works in kde
[09:39] <Zodiac> Well, just about everyone in my family is now running Ubuntu :)
[09:39] <david__> hey
[09:39] <Seveas> good!
[09:39] <david__> does anyone know how to get ubuntu to read my fat32 drive?
[09:39] <Seveas> david__: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[09:39] <Zodiac> If I can get my mom to give up Corel I am sure she will run it as well :)
[09:39] <david__> ahh to sev
[09:39] <lui> anybody, how can i make the knotes run everytime I log in ubuntu?
[09:39] <david__> this isn't a win partition though, it's just for sharing files between win and linux
[09:40] <Seveas> david__, makes no difference
[09:40] <Zodiac> They are so dumbfounded they dont need to run virus or spyware programs anymore
[09:40] <david__> Seveas, k ty i'll try that
[09:40] <Seveas> the program checks for fat32/ntfs/hfs+ drives :)
[09:40] <bodhi> hi, my ubuntu system runs fine but my system menu has dissapeared, any idea?
[09:40] <quad> i have a problem with the warty livecd, can someone help me?
[09:40] <douglas> new to linux, any web site ideas to read?
[09:40] <quad> i get these weird boxes everywhere on the screen when using the warty livecd
[09:41] <Seveas> douglas, wiki.ubuntu.com, www.tldp.org are nice documentation sites
[09:41] <te[a] bag> pcharky: i looked at them, and the first 2 lines were commented out, so im uncommenting them to see if that works
[09:41] <benplaut> !ghosts
[09:41] <ubotu> benplaut: Are you on ritalin?
[09:41] <benplaut> no
[09:41] <Seveas> warty has no system menu bodhi
[09:41] <douglas> thanks going there now
[09:41] <CookedGryphon> bodhi, right click on the panel n click add to panel, pick it from there
[09:42] <CookedGryphon> oh jstu the system menu
[09:42] <benplaut> qaud: it's called a ghost... it's a problem with the xserver...
[09:42] <david__> ty sev
[09:42] <benplaut> can't really be permanently fixed
[09:42] <bz0b> 9+-
[09:43] <bodhi> i mean, i see gnome logo, but I can't access to system submenu (synaptic etc)
[09:43] <ntldr> Hi again. I got nvidia working, thanks
[09:43] <david__> Seveas, ty so much, now both my win hd and my shared hd show up
[09:43] <david__> i love you
[09:43] <david__> Seveas, have my babies
[09:43] <Seveas> david__, send donations to ubuntu ;)
[09:43] <dalamar> haha!
[09:43] <Zodiac> Your giving them to him?:
[09:43] <david__> Seveas, sounds like a plan!
[09:44] <Zodiac> I would take em dude
[09:44] <asfra> Seveas: when I try to unhide the partition in grub I get a 'unrecognized device string'. What is then hiding it? thank you...
[09:44] <Zodiac> Do you know how much babies are worth on the black market?
[09:44] <dalamar> lol
[09:44] <ntldr> Seveas, now that i got that working, how do I enable tv-out on nvidia?
[09:44] <Seveas> ntldr, ENOIDEA
[09:44] <dalamar> just make them sit next to your computer and clean your screen on command
[09:45] <ntldr> :\
[09:45] <ntldr> ok, thanks anyway
[09:45] <geneo93> nvidia-settings
[09:45] <barongas> Which package contains make-kpkg or equivalent for ubuntu?
[09:45] <Seveas> kernel-package
[09:46] <Zodiac> What is a good program that is comparable to Word Perfect?
[09:46] <david__> uhoh, new issue for david!!! omglolol!
[09:46] <pcharky> ntldr: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1483
[09:46] <barongas> Seveas: Thanks once again
[09:46] <Zodiac> I have to get my mom to give it up
[09:46] <geneo93> ntldr:  i think that will work
[09:46] <Seveas> Zodiac, abiword is nice
[09:46] <david__> i just reinstalled ubuntu, and am trying to dl the bazillion updates from the red circle, and use the nub install script to set up flash, mp3 support etc
[09:46] <bodhi> Seveas: any idea? may be a gnome problem?
[09:46] <david__> but they both give me errors about the ftp server sucking
[09:46] <david__> is it down or something?
[09:46] <devazion> Zodiac: OpenOffice or KWord.
[09:46] <Seveas> Davey, nub install scripts from the forums/ubuntuguide generally suck...
[09:46] <Zodiac> Is abiword better than openoffice?
[09:47] <Seveas> abiword is faster :)
[09:47] <devazion> Zodiac: No, OpenOffice is superior.
[09:47] <david__> Seveas, i just ran it on a friend's comp a few days ago though and it's a very quick way to set up alot of stuff
[09:47] <te[a] bag> pcharky: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1484
[09:47] <Zodiac> Really>
[09:47] <Zodiac> ?
[09:47] <geneo93> ntldr:  yes its in nvidia-settings
[09:47] <david__> it's the same caliu.info server that gives me errors on the auto update with synaptec
[09:47] <Davey> seb128, that was meant for david__ ?
[09:47] <Zodiac> devazion: how come?
[09:47] <david__> like the red circle by the time
[09:48] <bz0b> hey guys
[09:48] <david__> hey bz0b
[09:48] <Seveas> david__, yay for the crappy nub scripts
[09:48] <Seveas> that server sucks
[09:48] <bz0b> ubotu tell bz0b about sources
[09:48] <pcharky> te[a] bag: something's terribly wrong with your dns. 16% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[09:48] <david__> Seveas, gotta love em :)
[09:48] <Seveas> david__, this make me hate them even more
[09:49] <te[a] bag> pcharky: oh crap :/ not really sure what to do now
[09:49] <Seveas> since we in here hve to solve their damage
[09:49] <david__> Seveas haha, i'll tyr again later i guess
[09:49] <Seveas> david__, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:49] <david__> Seveas, but it must be an important server because the ubuntu updater uses it too and can't get ot it either
[09:49] <Seveas> put a # in front of the line with that caliu server
[09:49] <pcharky> te[a] bag: try a different dns server. you can define them in /etc/resolv.cnf
[09:49] <Seveas> that server is not important, it should not even be used
[09:49] <david__> Seveas,  oh shit i forgot to add that
[09:49] <pcharky> te[a] bag: s/cnf/conf/
[09:50] <david__> the multiverse and stuff
[09:50] <Seveas> !tell david__ about sources
[09:51] <DekaPink> Damn 'no server running on host' error. --;
[09:51] <Deep6> I'm getting no sound out of alsa right now
[09:51] <oceandead> is colony-3 the last beta?
[09:52] <Deep6> alsa device default doesn't exist
[09:52] <kamstrup> oceandead: yes
[09:52] <Seveas> oceandead, it's the latest, not the last
[09:52] <Deep6> yet it's listed under the volume control albeit as the 3rd devic
[09:52] <Deep6> e
[09:52] <david__> this is odd
[09:52] <oceandead> k
[09:53] <david__> i can't get to the link Seveas sent me or the ubuntu wiki. it asks to accept the certificate but hitting ok does nothing... arg
[09:53] <Zodiac> If my ipod is named "death from above", what should the mount point be named in GTKpod?
[09:53] <bfree> does anyone have a link for info on the livecd ... ? I can't find much.  Specifically can you use boot options to do debconf-preseeding and avoid the keyboard/language questions (for example)?
[09:53] <te[a] bag> pcharky: hmm ive never done this sorta thing before, cat /etc/resolv.conf gives me nameserver 192.168.1.1, im not sure what DNS to put or where to put it :/ sorry for being an ass btw
[09:53] <drunken-wallaby> hi everyone!
[09:54] <Gorth> what's the iso burner that comes with ubuntu
[09:54] <mjr> Gorth, nautilus
[09:54] <Gorth> thanks!
[09:54] <vitriol> can someone show me what a breezy metaverse entry in sources.list should look like?
[09:54] <Deep6> can anyone help with my alsa issue?
[09:54] <caliminus> i got a big problem i lost all of gnome window border how do i repair that
[09:55] <drunken-wallaby> i got a little problem once again :) anybody knows how to calculate the actual track length of an mp3/ogg file with the informations coming von the id3 tag? is this possible?
[09:55] <CookedGryphon> sounds like ure window manager is gone
[09:55] <CookedGryphon> caliminus*
[09:55] <tristanmike> why is there a DVD download of the Hoary install???
[09:55] <tristanmike> can someone explain?
[09:55] <pcharky> te[a] bag: It's okay, you're not. your isp probably provided you with a dns server. You can check out their website for such info.
[09:55] <drunken-wallaby> cause i want to create a script to create covers for mp3-cds automatically with latex...
[09:55] <bodhi> a submenu has disappeared from my menu in Ubuntu, any idea?
[09:55] <mjr> tristanmike, why shouldn't there?
[09:55] <Davey> tristanmike, contains the live cd and the install disk, I think. Something like that
[09:55] <lui> why I try to play mp3's in juk and I can't here nothing?
[09:55] <CookedGryphon> caliminus, go to a console n type "ps -ae|grep metacity"
[09:56] <Davey> btw, the ShipIt CDs are just fantastic :)
[09:56] <geneo93>         deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe multiverse
[09:56] <tristanmike> mjr: well, aside from the fact that a DVD is 4.6 GB and the CD is 700 MB there a DVD can play a CD
[09:56] <ntldr> geneo93, thanks a lot!
[09:56] <CookedGryphon> caliminus, if nothing comes up then that's what's wrong
[09:56] <tristanmike> Like if you had only had a DVD rom would you need the DVD version of the install?
[09:56] <te[a] bag> pcharky: ok, thanks for all your help. i shall carry on and see if i can solve this. im sure ill be back tomorrow :P
[09:56] <tristanmike> I wouldn't think so
[09:56] <caliminus> so i have to reinstall gnome
[09:56] <geneo93> ntldr:  what did i do now
[09:57] <pcharky> te[a] bag: good luck, seeya ;)
[09:57] <ntldr> told me about nvidia-settings
[09:57] <lui> help, I can't hear mp3's in juk
[09:57] <ntldr> :)
[09:57] <rosa> HI ! how do i install kubuntu when i already got ubuntu
[09:57] <mjr> tristanmike, all of ubuntu main does not fit on a CD, it's a core selection. Plus the DVD contains both a live system and the installer
[09:57] <ntldr> I just have to enable twinview somehow
[09:58] <dougsk> rosa, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:58] <geneo93> ntldr:  O
[09:58] <CookedGryphon> caliminus, just the metacity window manager
[09:58] <tristanmike> I'm having a REALLY bad install luck with 2 friends
[09:58] <rosa> thanks
[09:58] <CookedGryphon> take it uve tried a restart
[09:58] <tristanmike> Grasping at straws now
[09:58] <geneo93> ntldr:  there should be wiki for that
[09:59] <ntldr> looking
[09:59] <tristanmike> Even removing the HD in the BIOS, Windows still takes over and boots, can't get the CD to boot
[10:00] <caliminus> k thanks
[10:00] <Blissex> tristanmike: you _must_ tell the BIOS to goot from CD. Just about only way.
[10:00] <Blissex> tristanmike: to get some bioses to do that Requires some bizarre key presses.
[10:00] <tristanmike> Blissex, I have, removed it completely from the Boot menu, Window's still boots up
[10:01] <tristanmike> Blissex, that's what I meant by 'removing the HD'
[10:01] <geneo93> tristanmike:  try f12 before win boots
[10:01] <Blissex> tristanmike: tristanmike thats the wrong way to do it -- you need to add the CD to the boot menu before the HD.
[10:01] <tristanmike> Blissex, ?? I didn't have to do that with my system, can you elaborate please?
[10:02] <tristanmike> Blissex, and no, I don't have a dell, custom built
[10:03] <geneo93> tristanmike:  in bios your need boot cdrom first
[10:03] <Blissex> tristanmike: all BIOSes have a list of which devices they should try to boot from, and they try them top to bottom. You should have the CD first in that list, or at least ahead of the HD. Usually the best order is floppy, CD/DVD, HD
[10:04] <filip> can someone test if my ftp server work?
[10:04] <dalamar> mine comp is totally custom and I had to still enable cdrom before hdd for it to work right during an install or anytime I need to boot from cd
[10:04] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:04] <tristanmike> Blissex, I do understand that. what I am saying is that yes, that should work too, but when I install, I just take the HD out completely and it "forces" to boot from cd if nothing else. anyway, I don't think he has tried with HD at the end, will try
[10:04] <elvirolo> has anyone managed to compile the quake III engine ?because i get the following error : http://sial.org/pbot/12637
[10:05] <tristanmike> Blissex, he says that even when installing Windows, he has to do it from floppies
[10:05] <tristanmike> Blissex, which sounded odd to me
[10:05] <mrquick> hi I just pasted my dmesg, having a problem in 2.6.10-5-686-smp where usb controller is detected then fails
[10:05] <dalamar> his cdrom might not be bootable then
[10:05] <Blissex> tristanmike: thats ridiculous -- unless the PC is at least 10 years old.
[10:05] <elvirolo> ideas anyone?
[10:05] <reazon_> hey
[10:05] <tristanmike> Blissex, apparently new
[10:05] <reazon_> where does UBUNTU store the smbpasswd file?
[10:05] <tristanmike> Blissex, Semperon 3000
[10:05] <Blissex> tristanmike: so he is not setting the BIOS right...
[10:05] <dalamar> or he doesnt know how to set the bios boot order correctly
[10:06] <tristanmike> dalamar, is that possible?
[10:06] <benplaut> hello?
[10:06] <tristanmike> dalamar, about the unbootable cd?
[10:06] <dalamar> no not with a computer that new
[10:06] <tristanmike> dalamar, i didn't think so, I'm so-so with trouble shooting windows, and trying everything I can think of
[10:06] <snorks> is there a way to save current irssi setup?
[10:07] <tristanmike> dalamar, that is to say only been using Linux for 1 1/2 months
[10:07] <tristanmike> :)
[10:07] <jbull> anyone care to help with an ACPI problem?
[10:07] <dalamar> hes just not setting up the boot order right in the bios is all this is, i run a sempron 2600+ with kt600 chipset and I still need to  go into the bios and enable cdrom before hdd in the boot order options for it to load right
[10:07] <snorks> exit
[10:07] <EasterSunshine> i need a nice meaningful or cool sounding two or three letter hostname...pm me
[10:07] <mrquick> can anyone take a look at my pasted dmesg and give me an idea as to why the usb controller isn't working?
[10:08] <dougsk> actually with that new of a board there should be an option like F11 to choose boot order and skip the bios altogether
[10:08] <Deep6> can anyone help me with sound I'm getting alsa device doesn't exist?
[10:08] <tristanmike> dalamar, cool, will report back, I didn't think it mattered to have the HD in at all, well, it doesn't seem to on mine anyway
[10:08] <mrquick> it works in 2.4 and earlier 2.6 kernels
[10:08] <dalamar> tristanmike, well if cdrom isnt in the list of boot order at all it is a possibility
[10:09] <tristanmike> dalamar, no, it's there I believe
[10:09] <tristanmike> I'm even getting to the point that I want him to take out the hard-drive phyiscally from the system to see if it will even get to a
[10:09] <tristanmike> *cd boot that way
[10:09] <dalamar> tristanmike, hmm, is the installation disk bad possibly?
[10:10] <digitalslave> anyone use poker3d?
[10:10] <CookedGryphon> can't you make a floppy boot disk and run the cd install from that?
[10:10] <vitriol> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu-desktop after upgrading from hoary
[10:10] <tristanmike> MD5 checksum apparently fine, burned at 4x as per my request
[10:10] <dalamar> CookedGryphon, good idea
[10:10] <vitriol> says alot of stuff 'won't be installed' and refuses to install ubuntu-desktop :(
[10:10] <vitriol> anybody know how to fix this?
[10:10] <dalamar> tristanmike, maybe try what CookedGryphon said and boot off a floppy then run the install from there
[10:10] <tristanmike> CookedGryphon, trying but the bin file on the install cd is too big!?
[10:11] <_frank> vitriol: you upgraded from hoary? you may be on your own
[10:11] <tristanmike> That is /install/sbm.bin
[10:11] <tristanmike> Says too big for floppy, but it's only 1.44 MB
[10:12] <dalamar> i dont even have a floppy drive so I'm unfamiliar with this, but there maybe a way to format a boot disk from a working ubuntu install or possibly downloaded off the web somewhere?
[10:12] <nickrud> vitriol, that message is from apt-get?
[10:12] <mrquick> usb is freaking broke
[10:12] <dougsk> CookedGryphon, ubuntu doens't really support floppy install, the kernel is too large.  Some people used the darge boot floppies and then upgraded to ubuntu -- I've tried twice, one went well and one went horribly wrong
[10:13] <dougsk> darge/sarge
[10:13] <nickrud> you might want to try synaptic or aptitude in it's interactive mode. They have better handling of broken packages
[10:13] <vitriol> nickrud: yes that's right
[10:13] <vitriol> nickrud: i can't use either of those
[10:13] <tristanmike> dougsk, azz on the fourms suggested that
[10:13] <vitriol> nickrud: no X environment
[10:13] <jelkner> does anyone know the state of the breezy x86-64 installation disks?
[10:13] <nickrud> vitriol, aptitude is ncurses, works in a virtual terminal
[10:14] <david__> wehenver i get a new kernal image
[10:14] <david__> grub deletes my windows partitiosn from menu.list
[10:14] <vitriol> nickrud: oohh my mistake :)
[10:14] <david__> and i don't know the commands to add it back
[10:14] <vitriol> nickrud: i'll try that
[10:14] <nickrud> vitriol, a couple of pointers for interactive:
[10:14] <tristanmike> Is there a BIOS setting I might not be thinking of??
[10:14] <firefly2442> how do you install ubuntu with lilo and NOT grub?
[10:15] <tristanmike> nVidia for video too
[10:15] <joe_> Palm OSDevices asks for an Owner name (which i know) but how am i supposed to get the ID?
[10:15] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone have the original apt/sources file and is willing to dcc it to me?
[10:15] <nickrud> the command / is search, and \ is repeat last search; + is install, - is uninstall, and _ is purge
[10:15] <david__> does anyone know if theres a way to re-auto config grub
[10:15] <dougsk> Firefly, there is an expert boot option
[10:15] <caliminus> grub error 18 what is that
[10:15] <tristanmike> Fanskapet, how do you want it?
[10:15] <Fanskapet> dcc works for me :)
[10:16] <vitriol> nickrud: i think that might be working! thanks!!
[10:16] <Fanskapet> just need the standard sources.
[10:16] <tristanmike> Fanskapet, sorry, dcc??
[10:16] <nickrud> vitriol, np.
[10:16] <vitriol> now i'll *finally* have breezy working :D
[10:16] <firefly2442> I tried "server-expert"
[10:16] <firefly2442> is that it?
[10:16] <dougsk> firefly2442, yeah you should have the option
[10:16] <tristanmike> Fanskapet, I faild Anograms101
[10:17] <tristanmike> Fanskapet, what is dcc?
[10:17] <codomaniac> hi anyone here tried fluxbox on ubuntu ?
[10:17] <Fanskapet> tristanmike /dcc /etc/apt/sources.list fanskapet
[10:17] <Fanskapet> in xchat should do the trick
[10:18] <tristanmike> Fanskapet, i just remembered, it's on ubuntuguide.org
[10:19] <nophix> codomaniac: ask the real question
[10:20] <digitalslave> anyone know how to connect to a game with poker3d?
[10:20] <firefly2442> to install lilo, do I need to do anything in the shell?
[10:21] <tristanmike> Fanskapet, did you get it??
[10:21] <joe_> ls
[10:21] <jbull> anyone experience a problem with the gnome-battstat applet returning "time remaining unkown"?
[10:21] <nophix> firefly2442: sudo apt-get install lilo ?
[10:21] <digitalslave> lilo is in synaptic with docs
[10:22] <firefly2442> I get a grub geom error
[10:22] <firefly2442> on boot
[10:22] <firefly2442> so grub isn't really working at all
[10:22] <joe_> so does anyone here have a palm connected to a linux desktop?
[10:23] <caliminus> grub error 18 what is that
[10:23] <Zero--> Hi folks
[10:24] <Zero--> Got a barebones install of Breezy and I'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop but abt craps out
[10:24] <Zero--> Sorry apt craps out about missing deps
[10:24] <nophix> you should use hoary instead
[10:24] <manu_> does some one know where i can find different skins for mplayer ?
[10:24] <LasseL> why are everybody rushing to install breezy?
[10:24] <tristanmike> dalmar, got any other suggestions
[10:24] <Zero--> Looks like libcairo...
[10:24] <LasseL> too much time on your hands?
[10:25] <nophix> manu_: mplayer.hq.hu
[10:25] <dalamar> they enjoy complaining about things that dont work?
[10:25] <nickrud> LasseL, it's working pretty well, actually.
[10:25] <geneo91> its like a new car
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> how do I do a reverse grep?  As in, find lines that /don't/ contain a certain pattern?
[10:25] <nickrud> um, the stuff I use, anyway :)
[10:25] <Zero--> Not comaplainign at all no need to be that way
[10:25] <LasseL> i used to run gentoo, i got rid of that urge
[10:25] <firefly2442> I think I got it working... installing....
[10:25] <manu_> i don t speak tcheck
[10:25] <manu_> sorry
[10:26] <VeloxS> HappyFool: I finally fixed it...apparently it likes the first IDE channel, but not the second IDE channel.
[10:26] <LasseL> tiglionabbit, man grep ? :p
[10:26] <LasseL> tiglionabbit, grep -v
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> thank you, LasseL
[10:27] <__Lamont__> hello all
[10:27] <dalamar> tristanmike, honestly I would have figured it was cdrom wasnt before hdd in the bios boot order, I have no clue now
[10:27] <__Lamont__> Can anyone tell me how to stop Xwindows without changing the runlevel? I need to install newer nvidia drivers
[10:27] <tristanmike> dalamar, who might know, do you know/
[10:27] <tristanmike> ?
[10:28] <Zero--> Builing a test install in Windows using CoLinux, boostrapped from Debian 3.0r2 -> Ubuntu ;P
[10:28] <dalamar> nope ;/
[10:29] <CookedGryphon> __Lamont__, i found that if u change to a terminal and login (using ctrl alt + F1, then press cxtrl alt f7 to go back into X server, then ctrl alt backsp to quit x server, it ended rather than restarted
[10:29] <dalamar> my keyboard is possesed, sometimes it works, sometimes only certain keys work, sometimes even though I hit a key once it justs keeps hitting it like im holding it down, sometimes it just plain turns off, its a basic ps2 keyboard, and granted it was 7 dollars so it may just be the crap keyboard but was wondering if it maybe be a config error or something?
[10:29] <nickrud> __Lamont__, log out of your desktop, hit ctl-alt-f1, log in, and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:29] <apollo2011> I think I have figured out that Samba is not working on my main box because somehow some of the files provided in the samba-common package have gotten wiped out.  However, when I reinstall the package in Synaptic, these files aren't restored.  How come? and how can I get them to be replaced?
[10:30] <digitalslave> why not remove then reinstall from synaptic?
[10:30] <apollo2011> I can;t uninstall the package because that would also require uninstalling the ubuntu-desktop package...
[10:30] <Meek> Hey can someone help me, I just installed linux on my computer and now I don't know what to do, are there any good tutorials or documentation that will tell me how to activate stuff and do things?
[10:30] <apollo2011> among others...
[10:31] <nophix> Meek: wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <nophix> Meek: ubuntuforums.org
[10:31] <apollo2011> Meek: what nophix said
[10:31] <Meek> thank yo u
[10:31] <nophix> don't use ubuntuguide.org :)
[10:31] <dalamar> why not? good info there
[10:31] <nophix> it's not updated
[10:31] <nophix> wiki is better
[10:31] <dougsk> Meek, just goof around.  I'd say try and avoid the distro-hop routine.  Find a distro that you like, and quickluy -- hopefuly that's ubuntu -- and start from their.  The rute tutorial is a great palce to start
[10:31] <apollo2011> even some of the wiki stuff is old though
[10:32] <__Lamont__> nickrud: thx. Says gdm is already running, but I messed with GDM already trying. doing a shutdown -r and will try that again
[10:32] <bjorn_> Can somebody tell me the command to configure x.org
[10:32] <Meek> ok thanks dougsk
[10:32] <vitriol> nickrud: i'm still desktopless :\
[10:32] <nophix> yes, but atleast people can change it
[10:32] <bjorn_> I need it to configure my graphic card :/
[10:32] <apollo2011> yeah
[10:32] <vitriol> i can't figure out what's going on with this ubuntu-desktop deal in breezy
[10:32] <vitriol> i tried installing xserver-xorg and i can't use 'startx'
[10:32] <tristanmike> Can someone help me with a REALLY funky installation.......please
[10:32] <benplaut> !tell bjorn_ about xserver
[10:32] <digitalslave> bjorn - open it and edit it
[10:32] <benplaut> oops
[10:33] <bjorn_> digitalslave, there was a graphical walktrough
[10:33] <bjorn_> in the terminal
[10:33] <bjorn_> but i forgot the command
[10:33] <benplaut> vitriol, try xinit?
[10:33] <nickrud> vitriol, apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop will show you what is needed for ubuntu-desktop; something under that is broken somewhere. Welcome to breezy :)
[10:33] <digitalslave> best to follow your video card manufacturers directions
[10:33] <benplaut> bjorn_, sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:33] <vitriol> nickrud: ahh ok
[10:33] <apollo2011> digitalslave: can I uninstall the package without uninstall all the other stuff or is it safe to uninstall all that stuff and then reinstall or what?
[10:33] <digitalslave> nvidia has a walk through on editing the file
[10:33] <geneo91> tristanmike:  maybe the cd is bad
[10:33] <bjorn_> digitalslave,  that didn't work
[10:33] <bjorn_> I'll get a black screen then
[10:33] <bjorn_> -_-
[10:34] <digitalslave> maybe you missed a step
[10:34] <digitalslave> what card?
[10:34] <nickrud> vitriol, you can interactively examine that list and try fixing it in aptitude.
[10:34] <vitriol> nickrud: k i'll try that
[10:34] <bjorn_> 7800gtx
[10:34] <pauldaoust> am I going nuts, or is there truly no OpenLDAP packages for Ubuntu?!?
[10:34] <digitalslave> apollo2011, seems ok to uninstall - make sure to reinstall for future upgrades and such
[10:35] <CookedGryphon> does anyone know how i can view sum1's webcam, they r using windows xp and msn, so i can chat in gaim, but i want to vview webcam? any ideas or am i gna have to reboot in windows (spit)
[10:35] <tristanmike> geneo91, well, apparently the md5 is ok and burned at 4x
[10:35] <digitalslave> what drivers bjorn_
[10:35] <apollo2011> digitalslave: yeah, I'll reinstall it right away, I just want to get the files back so samba can at least see my other machines
[10:35] <bjorn_> hmm when i do sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg it gives an error " please give an action option"
[10:35] <Scythe> does c use dynamic memory  management, or do you have to allocate separate memory space?
[10:35] <bjorn_> digitalslave, 7676
[10:35] <digitalslave> gaim has a webcam plugin you need to enable
[10:35] <vitriol> pauldaoust: maybe they are in universe or multiverse?
[10:35] <CookedGryphon> aha, cool
[10:35] <digitalslave> did you get them installed?
[10:36] <bjorn_> But I need to change my monitor resolution and vertical/horisontal hertz
[10:36] <pauldaoust> vitriol: both are turned on
[10:36] <pauldaoust> weird, eh?
[10:36] <bjorn_> otherwise it'll go out of sync
[10:36] <joe_> Scythe, if i recall correctly, you have to allocate memory yourself in c, definetely no garbage collection
[10:36] <vitriol> pauldaoust: yeah weird :\
[10:36] <benplaut> i'm using breezy. is it safe to add hoary repos to my sources.list for non-free stuff?
[10:36] <CookedGryphon> do i need to dl a package with webcam stuff?
[10:36] <benplaut> it seems to be working, but i don't want to bork everything
[10:36] <nickrud> pauldaoust, libldap2 is what you are looking for, i think
[10:37] <joe_> has anybody successfully synced PalmOS with ubuntu?
[10:37] <pauldaoust> wait wait wait! found it. It's called slapd
[10:37] <nophix> CookedGryphon: you could use mercury, but it's not open source
[10:37] <nophix> and unstable
[10:37] <pauldaoust> just didn't look hard enough in the forums
[10:37] <geneo91> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:37] <pauldaoust> joe_: define 'successfully' ;-)
[10:37] <joe_> pauldaoust, well, i dont even know what to put into the id box
[10:37] <digitalslave> bjorn_, set the modes in xorg.conf
[10:37] <pauldaoust> joe_: it's been a while; where is the 'id' box?
[10:37] <CookedGryphon> i can't find a plugin in gaim for webcam
[10:38] <bjorn_> sudo gedit xorg.conf ?
[10:38] <CookedGryphon> nophix, is that a complete chat clien tor what?
[10:38] <joe_> pauldaoust, PalmOSDevices asks for User Name ( hte owner of the handheld ia ssume) and ID
[10:38] <Scythe> do you have to allocate a specific memory address range...? or is that determined in the os ?
[10:38] <digitalslave> /etc/X11 yes
[10:38] <__Lamont__> gah
[10:38] <caliminus> how do i mount a hd from the live cd
[10:38] <nophix> CookedGryphon: www.mercury.to check it out
[10:39] <EasterSunshine> Scythe: use malloc, calloc, or realloc to allocate memory
[10:39] <pauldaoust> joe_: username is indeed the owner name, and ID is almost invariably 1000
[10:39] <Seveas> caliminus, same as on the installed system, with mount
[10:39] <__Lamont__> If I install a new video card, will Ubuntu attempt to configure it without intervention?
[10:39] <digitalslave> bjorn_, there are certain modules there you need to make sure are runnign and some that need to be turned off
[10:39] <pauldaoust> joe_: (I think)
[10:39] <__Lamont__> I'm not sure I'm ready to mess with making an install of these nVidia drivers
[10:39] <Seveas> __Lamont__, you might need a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:39] <digitalslave> there are instructions on the nvidia site when you download the driver
[10:39] <Scythe> so there shouldnt be any butting of heads in address spaces when running neooffice and firefox, my mac keeps locking up
[10:39] <Seveas> if your new card is from another manufacturer than your old one
[10:40] <bjorn_> digitalslave, Seveas  just gave the correct command
[10:40] <bjorn_> :>
[10:40] <bjorn_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <==
[10:40] <bjorn_> forgot a -
[10:40] <__Lamont__> Seveas: yeah, but the installer doesn't seem to find a precompuled kernal interface
[10:40] <Seveas> __Lamont__, don't use crappy installers
[10:40] <Seveas> use ubuntu-provided modules
[10:41] <__Lamont__> Well, thats the installed from nVidia
[10:41] <elvirolo> hi all
[10:41] <Seveas> that's a crappy installer :)
[10:41] <geneo91> bjorn_:  maybe you should not have done that
[10:41] <dalamar> read .. the .. wiki ..
[10:41] <__Lamont__> Seveas: Is there another way available to do nvidia drivders?
[10:41] <digitalslave> you need the kernel sources or header files
[10:41] <Seveas> Ubuntu comes with nvidia modules,
[10:41] <elvirolo> how do i add mpc (musepack) for amarok (with the xine engine) ?
[10:41] <Seveas> !nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[10:41] <Seveas> read that
[10:41] <klaus> hi i got some problems installing mplayer-586 gets this error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1486 and can not install any of that files.
[10:42] <__Lamont__> Seveas: Thanks, I will
[10:42] <ttj> Is there a way to install ubuntu on a system with only SATA-drives?
[10:42] <Seveas> klaus, your sources.list is FUBAR
[10:42] <Seveas> paste it on the pastebin
[10:42] <klaus> Seveas, sure 2 sec
[10:43] <bjorn_> is it usefull to specify the amount of graphic memory on your card?
[10:43] <digitalslave> bjorn_, never needed to
[10:43] <klaus> Seveas,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1487
[10:43] <bjorn_> k
[10:43] <geneo91> bjorn_:  yes
[10:43] <bjorn_> hmm
[10:43] <bjorn_> oke
[10:43] <_mike> hi, i installed wireless assisstant following their instructions, cd to dir, ./configure , make , make install and it said it was done so i restarted but i cant find it anywhere
[10:44] <bjorn_> so 256*8 right ?
[10:44] <bjorn_> no i mean
[10:44] <bjorn_> 8 zero's
[10:44] <bjorn_> -_-
[10:44] <digitalslave> auto complete in term _mike
[10:44] <apollo2011> digitalslave: it still doesn't restore everything then !!
[10:44] <_mike> how do i do that
[10:45] <digitalslave> open a terminal and type the first couple letters and hit tab
[10:45] <kemik> i love my colorcoded prompt.. no more confusion!
[10:45] <_mike> the first couple letters of what?
[10:45] <geneo91> 256 million
[10:45] <oceandead> i thought you were supposed to put it in kB
[10:46] <deptrai> hi, I'm newcomer in ubuntu here, anyone knows how to get into init 3 mode only in ubuntu/debian? That's mean I don't want xdm to start, just a console
[10:46] <_mike> digitalslave, the first few letters of what?
[10:46] <digitalslave> try wireless
[10:46] <deptrai> seems init 3 doesn't work
[10:46] <dalamar> _mike, the executable you compiled
[10:46] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1488
[10:46] <_mike> wireless doesnt work
[10:46] <Seveas> ^--klaus
[10:46] <_mike> im still kinda new to installing via terminal
[10:47] <geneo91> sudo init 3
[10:47] <klaus> thanks
[10:47] <deptrai> geneo91: no, init 3 still have xdm running
[10:47] <digitalslave> wir then tab
[10:47] <deptrai> I want completely NO xdm or something else
[10:47] <klaus> Seveas  works like a charm :)
[10:48] <deptrai> just a console like init 3 in FC
[10:48] <geneo91> deptrai:  what are you trying to do
[10:48] <deptrai> then I can startx anytime I want ;-)
[10:48] <_mike> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1489
[10:48] <_mike> look at that
[10:48] <deptrai> geneo91: I'm trying to have a console only, NO X after boot
[10:49] <kemik> deptrai:  ubuntu/debian doesnt use runlevels like redhat/fc does
[10:49] <deptrai> kemik: then how can I get console only ?
[10:49] <Seveas> remove gdm from runlevel 2
[10:49] <Seveas> and reboot
[10:49] <geneo91> i use telinit3 myuself
[10:49] <deptrai> ok, I dont install gdm, i'll remove xdm now
[10:49] <deptrai> ;-)
[10:50] <vitriol> everything seems to lead back to libcairo1 when trying to install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package, but libcairo2 is installed. anybody know how to fix this?
[10:50] <joe_> pauldaoust, where does ID come from?
[10:50] <joe_> sorry, i was disconnected, did you answer my question pauldaoust ?
[10:50] <Seveas> vitriol, have patience, the libcairo transition just started...
[10:50] <joe_> actually, how do i mount to /dev/pilot?
[10:50] <vitriol> Seveas: i can't use a graphical environment
[10:50] <pet> i can t find the source to add for mozilla flahplayer... can some one tell it to me?
[10:50] <_mike> so does anyone know how to fix my problem? should i try to install it again under a non-root terminal under su?
[10:50] <vitriol> Seveas: there's no fix for this?
[10:50] <deptrai> Seveas: do you joke ? I have to reboot in linux ?
[10:50] <deptrai> ;-)
[10:50] <oceandead> its not a release yet ...there are bound to be problems especially with upgrades
[10:50] <deptrai> he he he
[10:50] <Seveas> vitriol, not yet, the transition is going on
[10:50] <Seveas> deptrai, it's the easy way
[10:51] <deptrai> no
[10:51] <joe_> pauldaoust, okay, so my problem has become
[10:51] <vitriol> guess i'm screwed then
[10:51] <digitalslave> _mike, should tell you the command to run the app when the install is complete
[10:51] <joe_> pauldaoust, how do i mount the palm to /dev/pilot?
[10:51] <Seveas> the little-less easy is to kill xdm
[10:51] <deptrai> just /etc/init.d/gdm stop sir
[10:51] <deptrai> ;-)
[10:51] <joe_> pauldaoust, the device manager correclty figures out it's a palm handheld in the usb (when ihotsync)
[10:51] <_mike> let me look at the readme
[10:51] <pet> some one knows the source to add for flashplayer??
[10:51] <digitalslave> should have told you at the end of the install in the terminal window
[10:51] <Mianwalian> hi all
[10:51] <Seveas> !sources
[10:51] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:51] <Mianwalian> i have problem with my Ubuntu
[10:51] <Mianwalian> :S
[10:51] <Seveas> ^-- pet
[10:51] <pauldaoust> joe_: does the device manager tell you the device name of the Palm (e.g., /dev/usbtty0)?
[10:52] <Mianwalian> can somebody please help me out
[10:52] <pet> thanks
[10:52] <Seveas> Mianwalian, no
[10:52] <Seveas> you did not tell the problem
[10:52] <Seveas> so no one can help
[10:52] <Mianwalian> my all system utilities are corrupted :S
[10:52] <_mike> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1490 look at this
[10:52] <hfab> hey is anyone familiar with a strange font problem on a laptop? the letters are all zigzag .. when i scale down t0 800x600 it's okay
[10:52] <Seveas> Mianwalian, be a bit more descriptive....
[10:52] <pauldaoust> hfab: that's bizarre... no idear
[10:52] <pauldaoust> hfab: if it weren't a laptop, I'd say it's a sync problem
[10:52] <joe_> pauldaoust, it's weird, it has a heading for the USB Controller, under that is the driver, under that is the Palm Handheld,  A few more submenus down are TWO ports (ttyUSB1)
[10:53] <Mianwalian> root@Mianwalian:/home/mianwalian/Desktop # chmod
[10:53] <Mianwalian> Segmentation fault
[10:53] <Mianwalian> root@Mianwalian:/home/mianwalian/Desktop # rm
[10:53] <Mianwalian> Segmentation fault
[10:53] <Mianwalian> root@Mianwalian:/home/mianwalian/Desktop #
[10:53] <joe_> pauldaoust, and ttyUSB0
[10:53] <Seveas> Mianwalian, NEVER paste in here
[10:53] <oceandead> ah
[10:53] <deptrai> ok, thanks everybody, after remove xdm, I have console only here ;-)
[10:53] <Mianwalian> ohh okay
[10:53] <Mianwalian> but
[10:53] <joe_> pauldaoust, they both disappear when i stop hotsyncing
[10:53] <Mianwalian> what i shld do
[10:53] <pauldaoust> joe_: aha! that's what you want. that's right; it's all coming back to me. you want to go:
[10:53] <Seveas> and either your memory is bad or you installed something stupid, like an incompatible libc
[10:53] <pauldaoust> sudo ln -s /dev/pilot /dev/ttyUSB1
[10:54] <digitalslave> _mike, doesnt really mean anything - after make install it should have told you in the terminal what to type - do not have the package myself
[10:54] <Mianwalian> i have reinstalled ubuntu 5 mins ago, i was downloading a file using wget and when downloading was completed :S i m getting this error
[10:54] <_mike> it didnt tell me anything
[10:54] <Mianwalian> but what shld i do now?
[10:54] <_mike> it jus gave me a bunch of commands and sent me back to the command type line
[10:54] <Seveas> Mianwalian, what were you downloading?
[10:54] <Mianwalian> a software
[10:54] <pauldaoust> joe_: the trick is, you have to run that command in the small window in which those two devices appear. ttyUSB0 is a control connection, and ttyUSB1 is a data connection. It took me ages to figure out which one I was supposed to use :)
[10:54] <Mianwalian> netcat
[10:55] <Seveas> then your memory might be bad, reboot into the memtest86 kernel
[10:55] <Seveas> and let it run for an hour
[10:55] <Mianwalian> humm then
[10:55] <Mianwalian> hummmmm okay
[10:55] <pauldaoust> joe_: (just to clarify, when I said 'window' I didn't mean a window on the screen, I meant a window of time)
[10:55] <Mianwalian> this is just the solution
[10:55] <Mianwalian> ?
[10:55] <Seveas> no, this is the diagnosing phase
[10:55] <Seveas> the solution will come later...
[10:55] <pauldaoust> Mianwalian: it's at least a start, which would allow us to take things further
[10:55] <Seveas> when the actual problem is known
[10:56] <_mike> wow no one talks like at all in #kubuntu
[10:56] <Chiacomo> Any clues?
[10:57] <Mianwalian> Seveas but i found ubuntu as most unstable linux :S, i corrupts three time today and i installed it three times
[10:57] <Mianwalian> :S
[10:57] <Seveas> Chiacomo, about what?
[10:57] <geneo91> _mike:  they are all here
[10:57] <poningru> it doesnt say 'Dont use Breazy' on the topic anymore does that mean it is stable enough to be called 'beta'?
[10:57] <digitalslave> maybe wla and then tab _mike
[10:57] <Mianwalian> i dun know why it corrupts all the times
[10:57] <poningru> as in can I (noob) use it?
[10:57] <Lars_G> Merry meet all.
[10:57] <joe_> pauldaoust, ah, okay i did that, i see pilot in dev
[10:57] <Seveas> Mianwalian, then either your memory is bad or you installed from a bad cd
[10:57] <poningru> without much trouble?
[10:57] <Chiacomo> Seveas: I can't seem to edit wikinews pages from my ubuntu box -- everything works fine from the Windows box... If you're not familiar with mediwiki, you might not understand, but I can edit certain pages and not others. Is it possible the space in the article name has something to do with it?
[10:57] <joe_> pauldaoust, but PalmOSDevices doesn't sync, doesn't do anything
[10:57] <pauldaoust> Mianwalian: sounds like there is something wrong with hardware
[10:57] <Seveas> Chiacomo, spaces should translate to %20 in the url
[10:57] <_mike> digitalslave, wla gives no results
[10:57] <dalamar> your doing something wrong if your corrupting or your ram is bad. period.
[10:57] <pauldaoust> soo... anyone tried out remote authentication using OpenLDAP? I'm trying to set up a slapd server and it bails, with the information that it failed to bind to any address.
[10:57] <Mianwalian> i dun know :S
[10:58] <pauldaoust> joe_: what program are you using to sync?
[10:58] <Chiacomo> Seveas: Actually, i think spaces are automagically cahnged to _'s ....
[10:58] <Seveas> Mianwalian, do the memtest thing and test your other hardware too
[10:58] <digitalslave> trying to build give me a sec _mike
[10:58] <Mianwalian> i m using CD which is sent to me by ubuntu
[10:58] <Seveas> this is NOT an ubuntu problem
[10:58] <joe_> System > Preferences > palmosdevices
[10:58] <geneo91> Mianwalian:  maybe you have bad blocks or something not related to ubuntu
[10:58] <Mianwalian> hummmm
[10:58] <firefly2442> exit
[10:58] <Mianwalian> then how can i scan my disk
[10:58] <Mianwalian> any utility in ubuntu
[10:59] <Mianwalian> for scanning HD
[10:59] <Mianwalian> ?
[10:59] <firefly2442> L40 40 40 40 40 error when I try LILO
[10:59] <pauldaoust> joe_: stupid question, but I assumed you chose 'Type: USB' in the wizard?
[10:59] <Lars_G> I am new to Ubuntu so please bear with me.
[10:59] <firefly2442> should I try installing to hardisk instead of MBR?
[10:59] <spola> when breezy does come out, do we have to redownload the cd and reinstall ubuntu?
[10:59] <Lars_G> I am trying, very hard (as a debian lover, but giver up) to distinguish Ubuntu from Debian, but there are still overlaps.
[10:59] <Lars_G> And I come with two questions...
[10:59] <Seveas> spola, no, the upgrade is one line in the terminal :)
[10:59] <Chiacomo> Seveas: Like I say, I can edit some pages (my user page, for example), but not others. It finally gives me a timeout error... When I "show preview", the preview shows up at the top of the screen (withouth my changes) and the correct wiki markup is displayed in the bottom edit window... They just don't match.. :(
[10:59] <Lars_G> are the sites created by the default netselect-apt ubuntu sites, or debian sites?
[11:00] <geneo91> Mianwalian:  look at dmesg and see if it detects something wrong
[11:00] <pauldaoust> joe_: oh oh oh! incidentally, when you typed in the username... have you already set up an owner name on your Palm? If so, then you don't need to choose 'No, I've never used sync software' in the wizard
[11:00] <spola> no way! it's more work to rip a cd !
[11:00] <tristanmike> Got some really FUNKY installations and tried pretty much everything, need some BIG help
[11:00] <Lars_G> and second, is there a repository similar to debian's sid (I want the lattest, and we want it NOW) for ubuntu? not mixed with debian?
[11:00] <Seveas> Lars_G, on Ubuntu onlu ubuntu repositories are used
[11:01] <Lars_G> thanks Seveas, so the mirror_list pulled in ubuntu are for ubuntu repositories. thanks.
[11:01] <Seveas> the sid equivalent will be Grumpy Groundhog and is still in the planning phase, but with a 6month release cycle you're never too far behind
[11:01] <Chiacomo> Seveas: I've tried Konquerer, Opera, and Firefox... All the same, basically.
[11:01] <_mike> ...
[11:01] <Lars_G> Is there any Ubuntu persons here? or should I make my suggestions reach the foundation some other way? I'll go search the Ubuntu page I have some observations to make.
[11:02] <Fanskapet> agh stupied ubuntu vnc-server..
[11:02] <Lars_G> Seveas: So, there is no contantly refreshed central repository for bleeding edge binary debs?
[11:02] <Seveas> Chiacomo, weird, I don't have an idea...
[11:02] <Fanskapet> it won't change resolution
[11:02] <Seveas> Lars_G, not yet
[11:02] <Lars_G> Chiacomo: What are you looking for?
[11:02] <spola> Lars_G, how about the forums?
[11:02] <Lars_G> Seveas: Thanks a lot.
[11:02] <Seveas> there are Ubuntu people here, what kind of suggestions do you have?
[11:02] <adoyretsamon> !forums
[11:02] <Lars_G> spola: Might be, but my suggestions are for the directive to consider.
[11:02] <Chiacomo> Lars_G: Trying to figure out why I can't edit certain wiki pages from this ubuntu box but I can edit them from my Windows box...
[11:02] <Seveas> you can also contact ubuntu developers via ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[11:03] <joe_> pauldaoust, yea i've done that
[11:03] <joe_> i've actually tried both ways
[11:03] <Lars_G> Seveas: Well i am a long time linux user, currently I use Gentoo and I am sounding Ubuntu as a possible Debian replacement due to the release cycle and support time Ubuntu offers.
[11:03] <pauldaoust> anyone, anyone have experience in OpenLDAP with Ubuntu? I'm guessing not, judging by the lack of threads in the forums...
[11:03] <Seveas> Lars_G, many share that opinion :)
[11:03] <Lars_G> Seveas: My trouble is, Ubuntu clearly mentions it came from Debian, and how in release cycles it is not debian.
[11:03] <pauldaoust> joe_: unfortunatley I've found USB syncing to be fickle at best...
[11:03] <Lars_G> Seveas: But the Ubuntu-Debian frontier is fuzzier in other areas.
[11:04] <spola> i ran from gentoo to ubuntu aswell, boy am i glad those days are over
[11:04] <Seveas> Lars_G, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:04] <pauldaoust> joe_: in the initial setup, why not try /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 in turn, instead of /dev/pilot?
[11:04] <Seveas> that explains more
[11:04] <Seveas> if you have any specific questions about the relationship, just ask :)
[11:04] <Seveas> oops, wrong url
[11:04] <jsy> hey
[11:04] <Seveas> Lars_G, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship (this should be right)
[11:04] <jsy> i've got a question
[11:05] <jsy> i don't know how to download and install programs on my comp
[11:05] <pauldaoust> I've got a ham sandwich
[11:05] <pauldaoust> oh
[11:05] <pauldaoust> sorry
[11:05] <Chiacomo> Thanks guys -- I'm going to ask some wiki folks... :)
[11:05] <jsy> can someone help me
[11:05] <Seveas> jsy, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:05] <jsy> kk
[11:05] <jsy> ill check it out
[11:05] <jsy> thx
[11:05] <pauldaoust> jsy: easiest way? go to System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[11:05] <angryfix> How do you open ports in ubuntu to control incoming/outgoing data, so you can do stuff like setup a game server?
[11:05] <Lars_G> Seveas: Thanks, those texts where exactly what I was going to suggest should exist :)
[11:06] <Seveas> :)))
[11:06] <Lars_G> Seveas: It was then a case that I didn't dig well enough, or missed them. Thanks.
[11:06] <Seveas> yw and hope to see you on the ubuntu ship soon :)
[11:06] <Lars_G> Still personally I think this should be a little more prominent, in a "Ubuntu for Debian users." type of link, but that's me.
[11:06] <dalamar> arrg matey
[11:06] <H0lyD4wg> I tried to just install some Breezy packages in Hoary before making a full switch, installed evince (with deps satisfied by breezy) and now firefox doesn't render text at all, not in pages and not in GUI.
[11:06] <Lars_G> Seveas: I am on it already, just getting used to the change from Debian. Thanks.
[11:07] <jsy> question
[11:07] <jsy> i'm on the wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:07] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: sounds like some sort of problem with the new Cairo library... you'll probably need to downgrade firefox, gecko, and gtk+
[11:07] <jsy> and it says to open computer
[11:07] <Lars_G> spola: And I didn't ran from Gentoo I still use Gentoo a lot, I use both Gentoo and Ubuntu/Debian, and FreeBSD and OpenBSD when the application requires one of the other.
[11:07] <jsy> and go to system configuration
[11:08] <jsy> but i can't find system configuration when i go to computer
[11:08] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: actually, just get rid of cairo and downgrade Firefox
[11:08] <Seveas> jsy, it's system -> administration -> synaptic package manager in the gnome menu
[11:08] <angie> hello there
[11:08] <jsy> oh
[11:08] <Seveas> the page is a bit outdated (i'm fixing it now)
[11:08] <geneo91> Lars_G:  weren't you around in mandrke for awhile
[11:08] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: how am i supposed to downgrade FF? i'm still using the one from Hoary.
[11:08] <Lars_G> Sigh Chiacomo went away
[11:09] <angie> i'm having troubles installin gnomebaker 0.4... any help please?
[11:09] <jsy> thanks. i got it working
[11:09] <Lars_G> geneo91: A long time around, I left once I found the abilities of Debian over Mandrake
[11:09] <sockpuppe1> does anyone know of any rss tvguides
[11:09] <sockpuppe1> ?
[11:09] <dalamar> mixing packages from different releases is nasty stuff
[11:09] <jsy> err
[11:10] <jsy> i'm trying to download and install aim
[11:10] <jsy> how do i do it?
[11:10] <Lars_G> sockpuppe1: that would be great.
[11:10] <jsy> since aim
[11:10] <benplaut> does grub make a logfile?
[11:10] <jsy> the website is sorta weird
[11:10] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: oh... um, I'm not sure then. that's weird.
[11:10] <Seveas> jsy, there is an aim client installed by default
[11:10] <sockpuppe1> lars_g:: i thought so too
[11:10] <jsy> well, yeah, there's gaim
[11:10] <Seveas> applications -> internet -> Gaim
[11:10] <geneo91> hehe
[11:10] <jsy> compatible with aim
[11:10] <jsy> but i don't like it lol
[11:10] <sockpuppe1> Anyone know?
[11:10] <Lars_G> jsy: Two good AIM clients are Gaim and Kopete depending whether you like GTK or Qt more
[11:10] <Lars_G> jsy: What do you dislike in Gaim?
[11:10] <geneo91> jsy:  gaim supports aim
[11:11] <joe_> yea i did hte usb thing
[11:11] <joe_> speed, i just defaulted to 57600
[11:11] <Seveas> the aim client itself is crappy
[11:11] <jsy> hmm
[11:11] <joe_> pauldaoust, trying that out now
[11:11] <jsy> it is? okay
[11:11] <jsy> i'll trust you on that one.
[11:11] <Lars_G> jsy: What did you dislike on gaim?
[11:11] <joe_> pauldaoust, thanks!
[11:11] <joe_> pauldaoust, i'm really weirded out, i switched to ttyUSB0, then ttyUSB2 and 3 appeared, so i changed to usb2, then it instantly worked...
[11:11] <jsy> actually
[11:11] <jsy> i lke gaim
[11:11] <Lars_G> jsy: Then?
[11:11] <jsy> i just made an excuse to download aim
[11:11] <jsy> hah
[11:12] <jsy> Anyway, let's say I download something via sourceforge.net
[11:12] <Lars_G> jsy: Then go ahead and try it! no excuses needed! if you want to try it, nobody can tell you you shouldn't do it.
[11:12] <joe_> pauldaoust, well, thanks again!
[11:12] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: is it possible that using the FF from breezy will fix the problem?
[11:12] <Lars_G> jsy: Do it, and decide for yourself. You're free
[11:12] <jsy> I want to install it, but what do I do to install it.
[11:12] <jsy> I installed the files, but I don't know where to go from there.
[11:12] <pauldaoust> joe_: that is absolutely bizarre... but at least it worked!
[11:12] <Lars_G> jsy: It changes, the place it comes from doesn't determines the format it is in... first you need to learn how to distinguish what you got..
[11:12] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: could work, but proceed with caution (although I suppose that it's borked now, so it can't get much more borked :) )
[11:13] <jsy> oh
[11:13] <jsy> Then?
[11:13] <Seveas> jsy, if there is no .deb file for it, you need to read the README and INSTALL files you download ;)
[11:13] <Seveas> and follow the instructions
[11:13] <jsy> kk
[11:13] <Lars_G> jsy: basically, the biggest distinction you can make on a linux or unix software is to first detect wether it comes in Binary format (compiled) or source format (to be compiled)...
[11:13] <jsy> okay
[11:14] <probono> hi all, is there a way to save my personal settings in the beezy badger live cd?
[11:14] <Lars_G> jsy: As Seveas said, mostly Source formats and many Binary packages come with an INSTALL or README file that should shed more light into it.
[11:14] <jsy> okay
[11:14] <jsy> i'll check out the INSTALL and README files if it has one
[11:14] <probono> where is the "overlay filesystem" stored in the live cd?
[11:14] <jsy> thanks guys
[11:14] <granite> hey guys, I forgot how to connect to another network! Packetnews says I can find my file on this network: BARARCADE, but how can I connect to it?
[11:14] <Lars_G> jsy: Great.. saddly I must go, but I see there is good people in this channel so I wish you luck.
[11:14] <jsy> okay
[11:14] <jsy> bye
[11:14] <LMX2> should i install k3b, or is there any gtk burning program that work as good?
[11:14] <joe_> pauldaoust, whooooa, evolution w/ palm is relalycooool
[11:14] <jsy> i'm leaving too
[11:15] <dalamar> anyone know offhand why the nvidia splashscreen and the ubuntu login screen are offcenter to the right about an inch? then when gnome boots and everything starts its fine?
[11:15] <LMX2> and does k3b work good with ubuntu/gnome?
[11:15] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: you might also want to try downgrading libpango and libgnomecanvas
[11:15] <dalamar> LMX2, k3b is just a frontend but it works well in gnome yes
[11:15] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: also, what version of GTK+ do you have installed?
[11:15] <joe_> seeya, thanks again
[11:15] <geneo91> gcombust is good burning app
[11:15] <Lars_G> Seveas: It has been nice meeting you. And if you are one of the channel OPs you will see me more around here, I like how you help.
[11:15] <Lars_G> ?me bows.
[11:15] <Lars_G> hehehe
[11:16] <stupidnewby> I have a question. And this is the best name I could come up with on short notice but is there a good gui driven dhcp server for ubuntu
[11:16] <LMX2> dalamar, right, thanks
[11:16] <Seveas> stupidnewby, no
[11:16] <pauldaoust> crimsun: you don't happen to be in the channel right now?
[11:16] <stupidnewby> not any good ones or none at all?
[11:16] <Seveas> the dhcp3 server, which is the de facto standard has only a text config file
[11:16] <stupidnewby> gotcha thx
[11:17] <Seveas> there are virtually no services with GUI on linux
[11:17] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: GTK+ 2.8.0
[11:17] <jsy> I'm back, I've got another question. When downloading AIM (which I'm only downloading to try out), it tells me to log in as root, how do I do that?
[11:17] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: I betcha that's your problem
[11:17] <Seveas> jsy, not :)
[11:17] <Seveas> you can use sudo for commands that need root privileges
[11:17] <Seveas> like: sudo run_the_aim_installer
[11:17] <jsy> do i do that in the terminal?
[11:17] <Seveas> yes
[11:18] <Seveas> for a temporary root shell: sudo -i
[11:18] <jsy> do i have to be at a certain directory
[11:18] <crimsun> pauldaoust: hi
[11:18] <Seveas> jsy, the installer instructions will tell that
[11:18] <jdahm> hey how can I add enlightenment to gdm sessions?
[11:18] <jsy> okay
[11:18] <dalamar> whatever dir the installer was downloaded in most likely
[11:18] <pauldaoust> crimsun: howdy! I know you're a sound guru, and it probably drives you crazy when people come and whine to you, but I'm trying to deploy Ubuntu on a school computer lab, and they have some odd old sound hardware.
[11:18] <Seveas> jdahm, create a .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[11:19] <crimsun> pauldaoust: what sort?
[11:19] <pauldaoust> crimsun: what happens is that every sound (WAV, MP3, etc) is played veeeeryyyy slow and drawn out
[11:19] <pauldaoust> crimsun: one sec
[11:19] <jdahm> Seveas, contaning the executable path?
[11:19] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: so, how does one downgrade?
[11:19] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: remove the Breezy repository from your list of repositories, and then select gtk+ for reinstallation
[11:20] <Seveas> jdahm, yes and more info, take an existing file in that folder as example
[11:20] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: (don't forget to refresh your package list when it asks you to)
[11:20] <jdahm> Seveas, ok
[11:21] <hfab> hey so i took a screenshot (digicam, cause software screenshot is fine): http://oebs.net/tmp/screenshot.jpg  has anyone seen this (the strange font, icons) before and knows a solution?
[11:21] <pauldaoust> crimsun: the onboard sound device advertises itself as a VT82C686 (Apollo Super ACPI)
[11:21] <pauldaoust> crimsun: which I know is the mobo chipset itself, but it must have an included sound controller
[11:21] <crimsun> pauldaoust: snd_via82xx?
[11:22] <EasterSunshine> whois `
[11:22] <EasterSunshine> err sry
[11:22] <onovy> hi all
[11:22] <hfab> it's a laptop with 1024 resolution and some nvidia mobile chipset
[11:22] <pauldaoust> crimsun: bizarre
[11:23] <pauldaoust> crimsun: in the LiveCD, that's exactly what it said, but in the actual installed environment I'm using right now, lsmod | grep -i snd brings up nothing at all
[11:23] <stupidnewby> im trying to use thc_hydra to brute force someones password over a wireless connection.  I can ping.   But it will not connect to their ip.  Works over ethernet...
[11:24] <pauldaoust> crimsun: (to clarify, "exactly what it said" means yes, snd_via82xx)
[11:24] <onovy> when is plained to release new ubuntu version?
[11:24] <crimsun> pauldaoust: what does sudo modprobe snd_via82xx?
[11:24] <crimsun> onovy: October
[11:24] <ccc> if a program needs qt 3.3 to install, which package do i need from synaptic?
[11:24] <butcherbird> stupidnewbie:  ::sigh::
[11:25] <pauldaoust> crimsun: loads devices, but when I try aplay, it sez a whole bunch of crazy stuff, tantamount to the device not being there
[11:25] <dalamar> this is the wrong channel to be asking about bruteforcing passwords heh
[11:25] <geneo91> qt3-devel-tools
[11:25] <Kyral> Thank you admitting to hacking
[11:25] <Kyral> I mean cracking
[11:25] <onovy> crimsun: thx, will be still chance to ship it free?
[11:26] <stupidnewby> its my router im just testing to see if i can get it to work
[11:26] <Kyral> 'cause you aren't good enough to be called a hacker
[11:26] <crimsun> onovy: always.
[11:26] <Kyral> oh
[11:26] <Kyral> sorry
[11:26] <Kyral> reflex :P
[11:26] <Seveas> ccc libqt3-mt-dev
[11:26] <crimsun> pauldaoust: paste in #flood
[11:26] <pauldaoust> crimsun: /proc/asound/devices simply says '33: timer'
[11:26] <pauldaoust> crimsun: okay
[11:27] <Seveas> stupidnewby, we do not tolerate such illegal actions and ceratainly provide no support for it
[11:27] <EasterSunshine> speaking of brute forcing passwords, am i prone to that? one can ssh into me from the internet, and my password is like 9 letters long?
[11:27] <EasterSunshine> not exactly 9 letters, of course :)
[11:27] <onovy> crimsun: hmmm it's very good. can i order it now or in october?
[11:27] <ccc> Seveas: thanks
[11:27] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, not really
[11:27] <crimsun> onovy: October
[11:27] <dalamar> is it 'abcdefghi'? ;)
[11:27] <crimsun> pauldaoust: is ACPI being used?
[11:27] <EasterSunshine> dalamr: ssh...
[11:27] <simonvallore> HELLO HOW DO I INSTALL W32 CODECS
[11:28] <Seveas> simonvallore, drop the caps...
[11:28] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[11:28] <EasterSunshine> dalamar: ssh as in hush, not secure shell
[11:28] <Kyral> ouch......
[11:28] <crimsun> pauldaoust: if so, try booting with pci=noacpi
[11:28] <dalamar> EasterSunshine, i know heh
[11:28] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell simonvallore about w32codecs
[11:28] <crimsun> pauldaoust: barring that, try noapic
[11:28] <pauldaoust> crimsun: I'll try that; dmesg sez ACPI is indeed running
[11:28] <geneo91> onovy:  it take 4-6 weeks after release date to get cds
[11:28] <onovy> crimsun: ok, i have till one problem :) can i ?
[11:28] <Seveas> apokryphos, is your nick registered?
[11:28] <onovy> geneo91: ok, thx
[11:29] <EasterSunshine> simonvallore: first drop the caps, then do sudo apt-get install w32codecs or something like that
[11:29] <simonvallore> !SHOOT ME
[11:29] <ubotu> simonvallore: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:29] <apokryphos> Seveas: indeed
[11:29] <Seveas> (shot at request)
[11:29] <EasterSunshine> nice
[11:29] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: synaptic doesn't even list "reinstall" as an option :(
[11:29] <pauldaoust> crimsun: I'm gonna reboot; back in a sec
[11:29] <SIMONIZBACK> OK
[11:30] <apokryphos> haha
[11:30] <crimsun> sigh.
[11:30] <joe_> simonvallore, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:30] <joe_> is there a tool forlinux to automatically update the clock via the web?
[11:30] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: right-click on the package name and 'mark for reinstallation'?
[11:30] <Seveas> idiot
[11:30] <geneo91> hehe
[11:30] <bjorn_> i'm having problems installing java
[11:30] <topyli> oh well. i'm back to using mpd for sound :)
[11:30] <bjorn_> I looked @ the howto's
[11:30] <bjorn_> but it just keeps saying
[11:30] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: right click, "reinstallation" is greyed out
[11:30] <bjorn_> that the package doesn't exist
[11:30] <bz0b> ubotu tell bz0b about sources
[11:30] <geneo91> joe yes right click the clock
[11:31] <EasterSunshine> bjorn_ you have added the extra repositories?
[11:31] <bjorn_> EasterSunshine, which one
[11:31] <bjorn_> there are so many
[11:31] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: and this is libgtk2.0-0?
[11:31] <bjorn_> -_-
[11:31] <cyphase> Ever wonder why they choose the name 'Vista' ?
[11:31] <cyphase> Viruses
[11:31] <cyphase> Instability
[11:31] <cyphase> Spyware
[11:31] <cyphase> Trojans
[11:31] <cyphase> Adware
[11:31] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: sometimes 'Mark for Upgrade', in a backwards sort of way
[11:31] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: yes.
[11:31] <bjorn_> lol cyphase  ;)
[11:31] <pauldaoust> cyphase: very very clever. you make that up? ^_^
[11:31] <topyli> cyphase: don't do that
[11:31] <EasterSunshine> bjorn_: i would add mostly all of them as there is nothing to lose, especially universe, multiverse
[11:31] <Seveas> cyphase, don't ....
[11:32] <Seveas> flooding is evil, look at the topic
[11:32] <cyphase> pauldaoust, no :)
[11:32] <dalamar> wow that was fresh, only heard that one a million times
[11:32] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: everything execpt "removal" and "complete removal" is greyed out.
[11:32] <Seveas> dalamar, yeah it is so 10-days-old :)
[11:32] <geneo91> cyphase:  i dont think thet can use a trademarked name
[11:32] <bjorn_> btw geneo91 i just installed my graphic drivers
[11:32] <dalamar> ;)
[11:32] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: wow, that's a stumper. Try also the 'status' button at the bottom of the left pane, and choose 'Installed (broken)' then look for libgtk again
[11:32] <bjorn_> my fps in glgear skyrocketed
[11:33] <bjorn_> from 500 to 500000
[11:33] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: libgtk2, I mean
[11:33] <bjorn_> :.
[11:33] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: is it there?
[11:33] <geneo91> bjorn_:  and they work
[11:33] <EasterSunshine> hm...i just noticed that i never cared to install video drivers...only took a month...
[11:33] <bjorn_> yes
[11:33] <bjorn_> but i did it via the guide
[11:33] <pauldaoust> hey, folks, I'm gonna reboot; back in a sec
[11:34] <bjorn_> not via the syntapic manager
[11:34] <bjorn_> i compiled them myself
[11:34] <geneo91> i get around a 1000 fps with mx440
[11:34] <joe_> i'm getting 1230fps with fx5200
[11:34] <EasterSunshine> i don't suppose there would be a guide for installing drivers for a diamond stealth iii?
[11:35] <bjorn_> now they only thing that bugs me is i can't get 120 hertz on 1024-789
[11:35] <EasterSunshine> an old ancient video card from year 2000
[11:35] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: it will already have drivers
[11:35] <HrdwrBoB> most likely
[11:35] <HrdwrBoB> do you know what chipset it is
[11:35] <geneo91> so the extra 100 bucks only gets you an extra 250 fps
[11:35] <EasterSunshine> HrdwrBoB: nope, dunno teh chipset, but you are saying that ubuntu installed them for me?
[11:35] <bjorn_> did you install the latest drivers joe_ ?
[11:35] <DonL> I'm getting 1376fps with my xx440
[11:36] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: ubuntu has drives for most everything by default
[11:36] <bjorn_> it should be able to produce 2000
[11:36] <bjorn_> atleast
[11:36] <DonL> mx440
[11:36] <bjorn_> wait i'll look for the wikipedia
[11:36] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: if you're seeing a graphics interface, then you have to have some sort of drivers :)
[11:36] <topyli> !start a video card fight
[11:36] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, topyli
[11:36] <EasterSunshine> HrdwrBoB: the opengl screensavers go at about 1 fps
[11:36] <joe_> geneo91, ? i got this a year ago for 6o bucks
[11:36] <bjorn_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual
[11:36] <geneo91> DonL:  @ 1024x768
[11:36] <HrdwrBoB> probably
[11:36] <redtech> Is there a default app to burn iso images?
[11:36] <benplaut> !lart video card bickering
[11:36] <bjorn_> joe_, DonL  read that trough
[11:36] <bjorn_> very usefull
[11:36] <bjorn_> :o
[11:37] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: if it's an nvidia card, you can load the nvidia drivers
[11:37] <HrdwrBoB> otherwise, buy a new card
[11:37] <joe_> bjorn_, uh, i installed nvidia drivers
[11:37] <DonL> will do bjorn, thanks
[11:37] <bjorn_> The syntapic drivers weren't optimised for me so i needed to install them myself
[11:37] <bjorn_> :/
[11:37] <bjorn_> and when i do glx-commen
[11:37] <bjorn_> it just crashes
[11:37] <EasterSunshine> i have a couple of nvidia geforce 2's, 3's, and 4's laying around, but i'm just too lazy to change into them
[11:37] <pauldaoust> crimsun: hokay, pci=noacpi made sound work, but now I still have to deal with the fact that it sounds like a horror movie ^_^
[11:38] <topyli> darn. ubotu cannot start a video card fight apparently :(
[11:38] <Fanskapet> hmm
[11:38] <bjorn_> i'm intending to play quake 4 on this machine since its openGL written
[11:38] <Seveas> topyli, ....
[11:38] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: yeah, if you're at all concerned about some semblance of 3d, stick on of them in and loda the nvidia drivers
[11:38] <dalamar> ive got a geforce 2 32 meg, fear my fps ;) lol
[11:38] <HrdwrBoB> !nvidia
[11:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia
[11:38] <pauldaoust> rocked
[11:38] <pauldaoust> !!!
[11:38] <ubotu> ! is probably what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[11:38] <pauldaoust> not ricked
[11:38] <Fanskapet> isn't there any way of making the vnc-server use 1024x768 without having a monitor plugged in the computer?
[11:38] <topyli> hrmpf
[11:38] <geneo91> bjorn_:  try nvidia-settings
[11:38] <EasterSunshine> HrdwrBoB: wait, i don't understand, you are saying to install nvidia drivers, even though my card is savage3?
[11:39] <crimsun> pauldaoust: ok, can you test aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/$foo.wav
[11:39] <bjorn_> geneo91, ?
[11:39] <EasterSunshine> HrdwrBoB: and is savage this chipset thing you were talking about
[11:39] <bjorn_> anyway
[11:39] <bjorn_> i'm off to bed
[11:39] <pauldaoust> crimsun: $foo being a random sound of my choice?
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: no
[11:39] <bjorn_> tomorrow i'll take care of my audigy 2 and my printers :/
[11:39] <crimsun> pauldaoust: random wav file
[11:39] <bjorn_> Bye bye kissies etc :p
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: I'm saying nvidia will work
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> savage will.. not
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> (for 3d)
[11:39] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: Installed (Broken) doesn't even exist. and upgrading FF to breezy's version didn't help either.
[11:40] <EasterSunshine> HrdwrBoB: ehh...i'll whip out the nvidia cards along with breezy to make it even newer and fresher
[11:40] <EasterSunshine> HrdwrBoB: thx for explaining things to me
[11:40] <bjorn_> what gf 4 do you have EasterSunshine  ?
[11:40] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: if 'Installed (Broken) doesn't exist, it looks like all the packages think they're okay... I'm stumped, dude
[11:40] <HrdwrBoB> no worries
[11:41] <EasterSunshine> bjorn_: i dunno, all my geforces look alike, and i just know that there are two gf2's, two gf3's, and one gf4
[11:41] <bjorn_> EasterSunshine, hmm
[11:41] <EasterSunshine> bjorn_: i like collecting geforces
[11:41] <bjorn_> lol
[11:41] <bjorn_> send one to me
[11:41] <Kyral> .....
[11:41] <bjorn_> i need to build a server here
[11:41] <bjorn_> =/
[11:41] <Kyral> that was very very creepy
[11:41] <bjorn_> <== sleepytime :p
[11:42] <HrdwrBoB> I have a gf1, gf2, two fx5700s, a G400, and various other stuffs
[11:42] <EasterSunshine> he wants to make a server with a geforce...
[11:42] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: so, tomorrow's ELinks day?
[11:42] <Kyral> GeForce FX 5500
[11:42] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: ha ha... try epiphany first, then Konqueror
[11:42] <reiki> ok I'm done fussing over trying to figure out why SpamAssassin isn't rewriting the headers. It's working anyways. Between the junk filter in Evolution and my SpamAssassin filter I'm not getting any spam in my inbox. So... that's fine
[11:42] <Kyral> ....how would I overclock my NVidia in Linux anyway?
[11:43] <HrdwrBoB> Kyral: using nvclock
[11:43] <pauldaoust> crimsun: works, (well, after I killed esd), but the startup sounds like part of a movie where the aliens are about to land in some poor bugger's corn field
[11:43] <geneo91> nvclock
[11:43] <reiki> Kyral: if it ain't fast enough... buy a better bigger one :)
[11:43] <crimsun> pauldaoust: so sounds are still fubar?
[11:43] <pauldaoust> crimsun: yessir
[11:43] <LMX2> where do i remove the timeupdate on startup?
[11:43] <Kyral> reiki, I'm a college student
[11:43] <Kyral> I don't have that kinda money :P
[11:43] <crimsun> pauldaoust: cat /proc/asound/version
[11:44] <asfra> Does anyone know how to get a hidden partition working? can I just add it to /etc/fstab?
[11:44] <pauldaoust> hey, did everybody know that synergy is in the Hoary repositories, and it rocks your world, if you're working on two cmoputers at once?
[11:44] <reiki> Kyral: and I work at a university. :)  They'll still sell you a new GeForce even if you *are* a college student :)
[11:44] <EasterSunshine> what is synergy?
[11:44] <pauldaoust> crimsun: 1.0.6; should I upgrade to 1.0.9 perhaps?
[11:44] <Kyral> reiki, LIES! What college be this!
[11:44] <pauldaoust> EasterSunshine: it's like a software, network-controlled KVM, without the V
[11:44] <Kyral> oh, you meant at full price
[11:45] <Kyral> I meant I'm poor as shit right now :P
[11:45] <pauldaoust> EasterSunshine: you move the mouse to the edge of your screen, then move it over, and it appears on the other computer's screen.
[11:45] <reiki> Kyral: I work in an offshoot of the CIT department at University of NY at Buffalo
[11:45] <Kyral> and I'm getting SegFaults
[11:45] <joe_> bjorn_, when i click Periodically synchronize clock with Internet servers, it says i need to install NTP Support, but after I do, it still saysi need NTP Support
[11:45] <EasterSunshine> pauldaoust: and this works to move my cursor over to a completely different computer?
[11:45] <alastair_> When is the next ubuntu stable release?
[11:45] <dalamar> reboot
[11:46] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell alastair about breezy
[11:46] <pauldaoust> EasterSunshine: you bet. and there are servers and client for Linux, Windows, and OS X
[11:46] <crimsun> pauldaoust: try alsa-source in universe (best to stick with infrastructure if possible)
[11:46] <EasterSunshine> pauldaoust: that's just crazy...except i'm short of monitors
[11:46] <crimsun> !tell pauldaoust about alsa-source
[11:46] <pauldaoust> crimsun: I know what you mean.
[11:46] <Seveas> alastair: A new Ubuntu version is released every six months (in april and october). Each release is supported for at least 18 months with security updates.
[11:46] <reiki> so... y'all got emailwith no spam on the client side? My hosting provider stopped running SpamAssassin cause it was eating up resources like a drunk locked in a liquor store overnight
[11:46] <EasterSunshine> seveas: maybe you should teach ubotu about that new versions of ubuntu
[11:47] <geneo91> crimsun:  i thought you needed 2.6.12 kernel for alsa 1.0.9
[11:47] <reiki> I notice in the topic it doesn't say "don't use breezy" any more.
[11:47] <Seveas> !release is A new Ubuntu version is released every six months (in april and october). Each release is supported for at least 18 months with security updates.
[11:47] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[11:48] <pauldaoust> crimsun: thanks for the tip; I'll go upgrade
[11:48] <geneo91> reiki:  some things aren't there yet though
[11:48] <crimsun> geneo91: in-kernel, yes. Of course you can use 1.0.10rc1 from upstream if you wish; I'm fixing an ac97 compile error atm.
[11:48] <Seveas> reiki, correct, breezy is open for testing if you dare
[11:48] <H0lyD4wg> pauldaoust: hey, i just remembered something! i made a full HD backup today, quite possibly before adding breezy repositories to my sources.list
[11:48] <pauldaoust> H0lyD4wg: sweet!!!
[11:49] <reiki> Seveas and geneo91: I can wait.. I'm enjoying having a system that works :)
[11:49] <alastair_> What major changes can be expected in the next release?
[11:49] <DonL> Me too. I'm liking Hoary
[11:49] <Seveas> alastair, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals
[11:50] <Seveas> and http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
[11:50] <reiki> And, Seveas. I heard a LOT of people complaining about lack of spam blocking on various message boards. Getting SpamAssassin working with Evolution is about as easy as it's ever gonna get. One filter. Done.
[11:50] <asfra> !mount
[11:50] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[11:50] <pauldaoust> crimsun: is build-essential a metapackage for GCC and various header packages?
[11:50] <apokryphos> alastair: and what's new.... http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[11:50] <bjorn_ZZZ> !windowsdrives
[11:50] <ubotu> hmm... windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[11:50] <geneo91> crimsun:  well i wondered because my son has the 24 bit sblive and it say alsa 1.0.8 dont support it
[11:50] <crimsun> pauldaoust: basic dev packages, yes.
[11:50] <joe_> 3
[11:50] <crimsun> geneo91: 1.0.8 does support _some_ pci ids of the sblive 24-bit; it's the snd_ca0106 driver
[11:50] <pauldaoust> crimsun: wow... wish I woulda found that sooner, instead of installing libtool and autopackage and make and gcc separately ^_^
[11:51] <geneo91> what windows drives
[11:51] <muffin_> why is my wine sound not going anymore??? (seems that theres no virtual soundcard...) what can i do??
[11:51] <crimsun> geneo91: the problem is that there are too many pci ids to track, so they have to be added to the header files with each new ALSA rc release
[11:52] <geneo91> crimsun:  tried that and it didnt work in ubuntu but in mandrake it did
[11:52] <crimsun> geneo91: I don't know what ALSA version Mandrake uses
[11:53] <geneo91> 1.0.8 in 10.2 crimsun
[11:53] <crimsun> geneo91: I'm sure they've patched it to include the additional pci ids, then.
[11:54] <muffin_> ??
[11:54] <geneo91> crimsun:  prolly
[11:54] <pfp> is there an equivalent of apt-watch that would just send mail when there are new upgrades?
[11:54] <muffin_> my wine sound is not going anymore. what can i do?
[11:54] <crimsun> pfp: In Hoary, there's the update-manager
[11:55] <pax> The official breezy badger badger badger comercial can be found here http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/badgers.php :c)
[11:55] <pax> hehe
[11:56] <pfp> crimsun: i meant like something that would run in the backround, prolly from cron - for servers
[11:56] <Seveas> pax, hehehe :)
[11:56] <pauldaoust> crimsun: what the hell? while compiling, I went to the above 'ad for Breezy' and... sound works fine in Flash!!!!!
[11:57] <crimsun> pfp: you could probably accomplish that with a different python frontend
[11:57] <crimsun> pauldaoust: that's not at all surprising, since it uses oss emulation
[11:57] <zukalk> !dma
[11:57] <pauldaoust> crimsun: ahh, I thought it might've.
[11:59] <pauldaoust> AAAAAAA what the hell?
[11:59] <Velox> Eh?
[12:00] <pauldaoust> well things are working okay
[12:00] <WodanTJ> pauldaoust: wrong channel, try #hell
[12:00] <pauldaoust> and I don't know why
[12:00] <pauldaoust> WodanTJ: hardy har har
[12:00] <apokryphos> pauldaoust: my grades throughout the year