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| bz0b | hey guys | 01:51 |
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| JaneW | morning all | 08:43 |
| Burgundavia | morning JaneW | 08:44 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 08:47 |
| JaneW | hi | 08:48 |
| highvoltage | hi there | 09:21 |
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| Burgundavia | morning ogra | 09:25 |
| ogra | morning | 09:25 |
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| jsgotangco | JaneW, that email fo sabdfl is very ZA-specific :) | 10:25 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, is it ? | 10:31 |
| jsgotangco | well it is a call in ZA, but he hopes it would be a model to the world | 10:33 |
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| ogra_ | jsgotangco, he calls for descriptions of projects that already exist worldwide.... sure the target is ZA... | 10:43 |
| JaneW | hi ogra | 10:51 |
| JaneW | how are you today? | 10:51 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: yes "This is a mail to the global Ubuntu community, to ask for your help in formulating a national government strategy on Free Software for South Africa. We hope this work will also be used as a model for many countries world wide." | 10:51 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: the call is global, but the aim in this case is focused on SA | 10:51 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, a bit better... | 10:56 |
| JaneW | ogra_: snap | 10:57 |
| jsgotangco | i wanna cry | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | jsgotangco, why ? | 11:06 |
| jsgotangco | ogra_, Hoary and Breezy are a PITA in the laptop that was sent to me | 11:06 |
| ogra_ | thats why you got it... to have it solved in breezy+1 | 11:07 |
| jsgotangco | well yeah | 11:07 |
| jsgotangco | its just frustrating its a nice unit | 11:07 |
| JaneW | ogra_: how are you today? | 11:07 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, still a bit better :) | 11:07 |
| JaneW | ogra_: good... | 11:10 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, i like the idea though and probably contribute some in the wiki | 11:10 |
| jsgotangco | i will forward his email to a local list | 11:12 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, but it looks like gnome-power will be deferred :( i cant make its architecture work for us, its too similar to network-manager... mdz will slay me i guess.... | 11:12 |
| JaneW | PITAs are nice:) | 11:12 |
| jsgotangco | ogra_, do you think a successful install will also depend on how a unit is physically placed (say on top of a bed compared to a sturday table) | 11:13 |
| jsgotangco | it sounds silly though | 11:14 |
| ogra_ | hmmm | 11:14 |
| jsgotangco | (considering the angle of the install media) | 11:14 |
| ogra_ | depends how crappy assembled your HW is... | 11:14 |
| ogra_ | i.e. my built in DVD in this laptop cant even read bought audio CDs, if i reburn them on DVD its fine... | 11:15 |
| JaneW | PITA=? | 11:16 |
| JaneW | ogra_: dare I ask if any of our frustrating situation has improved yet? | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, a bit... | 11:16 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, mhz made a sucessfull install yesterday if i understood him right... he has a presentation with edubuntu these days | 11:17 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm i will be making a presentation in a local university, maybe its a good idea to show edubuntu | 11:18 |
| ogra_ | jsgotangco, do you present ltsp ? mhz is explicitly going for a ltsp install :) | 11:18 |
| jsgotangco | well i have 2 laptops i can try | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | i can probably just show to the faculty | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | note that ltsp doesnt work over wireless | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | i'll do a cross cable then | 11:19 |
| ogra_ | yup | 11:20 |
| ogra_ | jsgotangco, just follow the notes on http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting and dont use the daily CDs | 11:22 |
| jsgotangco | use colony instead? | 11:22 |
| ogra_ | nope, the one thats linked from that wikipage... | 11:22 |
| jsgotangco | okay | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | (this is sort of a edubuntu colony) | 11:23 |
| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra_] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Wed 24 Aug 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | CALL FOR TESTERS: to test our CD see: http:and tested//www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra_] : Welcome to the discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | Unstable CD image: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/current - first official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Wed 24 Aug 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | CALL FOR TESTERS: to test our CD see: http://www.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
| ogra_ | grmpf | 11:23 |
| ogra_ | and tested | 11:24 |
| jsgotangco | ogra's colony? heh | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | heh :=) | 11:27 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMainInclusion | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | looking better :) | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | hey, i said its looking better... no reason to flee... | 11:34 |
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| JaneW | do we need an equivalent page to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryArtwork for edubutnu? | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | heh, you seem to have the same thoughts today, i'm just creating the edubuntu-artwork package... and wanted to ask if i should simply include all wallpapers we have on the wiki now | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | i dont think we need such a page... | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | at least not the special "icons" part | 12:04 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, did you get my last msg before your line dropped ? | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | <ogra_> JaneW, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMainInclusion | 12:05 |
| ogra_ | <ogra_> looking better :) | 12:05 |
| jsgotangco | wooo now language-pack-en stalls at stage 2 88% | 12:23 |
| jsgotangco | what more can I ask :) | 12:23 |
| ogra_ | switch to tty4 | 12:25 |
| ogra_ | (alt f4) | 12:25 |
| ogra_ | what does it say | 12:26 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm i wasn't able to do that i forced to shutdown the machine | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | hmm... did you have network connection during install ? | 12:29 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | hmm... | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | i dont have that here | 12:29 |
| jsgotangco | this is colony 3 | 12:29 |
| ogra_ | ah, i thought you installed the edubuntu CD | 12:30 |
| jsgotangco | oh the edubuntu cd installs fine | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | :) | 12:30 |
| ogra_ | nice to hear | 12:30 |
| jsgotangco | i am complaining about the beloved Tecra M2 | 12:30 |
| jsgotangco | Breezy's X is the most beautiful i have seen yet though | 12:31 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, http://www.edubuntu.org/Preview_Wallpaper_Examples should i put all wallpapers in the package for now to have them selectable in the theme selector ? (except the one that says "testing") | 12:31 |
| jsgotangco | ogra_, if stage 2 still hangs i can just check on tty4 and see what's being done right? | 12:33 |
| ogra_ | yup | 12:33 |
| jsgotangco | ok anything else or just tty4? | 12:33 |
| jsgotangco | because its asking me a question if I should install packages, etc. | 12:34 |
| ogra_ | tty4 shows the progress of the installation | 12:34 |
| jsgotangco | ok great i will just restart this andcheck | 12:36 |
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| JaneW | gess what's up with my link today...? :( | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, so another time... | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | JaneW, http://www.edubuntu.org/Preview_Wallpaper_Examples should i put all wallpapers in the package for now to have them selectable in the theme selector ? (except the one that says "testing") | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | i think that makes sense | 12:52 |
| ogra_ | hmm, seems she dropped again... | 12:53 |
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| ogra_ | JaneW, alive now ? | 01:36 |
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| ogra_ | poor jane_ | 03:43 |
| Petaris | Hi ogra_ | 03:45 |
| ogra_ | hey Petaris | 03:45 |
| jane_ | ogra: sorry this line is just ridiculous today... | 03:47 |
| jane_ | ogra: but at least I am catching up on my e-mail backlog | 03:47 |
| ogra_ | jane_: i know how that feels.... :/ | 03:48 |
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| ogra_ | Petaris: try sabayon... and create a user profile | 03:52 |
| Petaris | You know a management interface that allows you to change client desktops easily would be wonderful, make the change and have the users logout then back in and tada | 03:52 |
| ogra_ | we'll probably include it | 03:52 |
| ogra_ | thats sabayon | 03:52 |
| Petaris | is that gnome only? | 03:53 |
| Petaris | hrm | 03:53 |
| ogra_ | yup | 03:53 |
| ogra_ | its the gnome version of kiosk mode but far more fine grained | 03:54 |
| Petaris | I need a better solution | 03:54 |
| Petaris | :/ | 03:54 |
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| ogra_ | but it does exactly what you described above | 03:55 |
| Petaris | But I need a solution for icewm | 03:56 |
| ogra_ | thats why we didnt pick icewm for this release, there is no sane and easy solution... | 03:57 |
| ogra_ | you have to edit /etc/skel or the users ~/.icewm files... thats evil ... | 03:58 |
| Petaris | ogra_: If you plan on having a light weight ltsp offering you will need some easy way for users to manage the client desktops | 03:58 |
| Petaris | what is /etc/skel? | 03:59 |
| ogra_ | yup... as i said, tat will require a good thought out solution that takes time to develop... so we picked the stuff we know that works for this release... | 03:59 |
| Petaris | hrm | 04:00 |
| ogra_ | the default files that get copied into the users home dir, some people do the default settings for icewm there | 04:00 |
| Petaris | I suppose that one could do it with a perl script | 04:00 |
| Petaris | oh, ok | 04:00 |
| ogra_ | sure, but on the next upgrade your changes might be lost... | 04:01 |
| ogra_ | thats why you dont just use random perl scripts for such things | 04:01 |
| Petaris | not if that script pulls from a static config file | 04:01 |
| === Petaris has an idea | ||
| Petaris | you could create a dumby user and set their profile up to be a template that the script pulls from to set for all users of the ltsp group | 04:02 |
| Petaris | hrm | 04:03 |
| Petaris | it could be done ;) | 04:03 |
| === Petaris puts on his mad scientist hat and starts tinkering | ||
| Petaris | ogra: do you know if there is a lesson pack for ktouch? | 04:08 |
| jane_ | ogra: so do we have anything workable yet? | 04:08 |
| ogra_ | jane_ sure, we already have users... mhz is about to do a presentation with edubuntu | 04:09 |
| ogra_ | jane_ Petaris is using hios own tweaked version... | 04:09 |
| ogra_ | his even | 04:10 |
| ogra_ | jane_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMainInclusion | 04:11 |
| ogra_ | jane_ the one yellow one from -desktop is a bit odd but should be solved today or tomorrow (depending on pitti) | 04:11 |
| jane_ | yay | 04:12 |
| jane_ | :) | 04:12 |
| jane_ | your mood seems a lot lighter too | 04:12 |
| jane_ | so good news all round | 04:12 |
| jane_ | desktop is looking great | 04:12 |
| ogra_ | due to seb128's transition over the weekend all cdbuilds (ubuntu too) are broken currentyl, but i'm confident well have our CD ready if ubuntu builds agaion | 04:13 |
| jane_ | is server still a headache? (awaiting kamion?) | 04:13 |
| ogra_ | Kamion is needed for preseed changes on the CD... | 04:13 |
| ogra_ | the rest should sort itself over time... | 04:13 |
| ogra_ | nvu is giving me headdaches, but i'm just tlaking with a c++ god this second who might hlep me out here | 04:14 |
| ogra_ | the moodle change is relatively trivial... and the rest of server is only pending pitti reviews | 04:14 |
| ogra_ | (which would already been done, but sabdfl requested a new version of schooltool last week) | 04:17 |
| jane_ | ok | 04:17 |
| jane_ | elaborate? | 04:17 |
| jane_ | new version of schooltool? | 04:18 |
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| ogra_ | i have gotten the new schooltool packages on thursday, uploaded on friday... pitti wanted to do the inclusion report for the old version on wednesday, but would have needed a new one for the new version... so that was pending until friday... | 04:19 |
| ogra_ | they are there now... as soon as he has time for it, he'll go on with the reviews | 04:20 |
| jane_ | gah I can not get the BreezyGoal owneres to update their goals without a struggle | 04:20 |
| jane_ | and Matt is getting harsh about it... | 04:20 |
| ogra_ | yes, i can understand it.. it hurts me too to defer gnome-power, but i spent the whole weekend with it and it would still requirew too much work to get it ready this release... | 04:21 |
| ogra_ | its like admitting ou didnt make your job... | 04:22 |
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| ogra_ | jane_: nobody likes to admit that he failed his goals... | 04:23 |
| JaneW | ogra: understood but Matt is adamant that it;s now Feature Freeze so things are either in or out now... | 04:24 |
| ogra_ | i understand that but it still hurts | 04:25 |
| JaneW | ogra: I understand his need to be tought too | 04:25 |
| JaneW | ogra: yes, far too much has been deferred | 04:25 |
| JaneW | but we have learned from it | 04:25 |
| JaneW | it was unrealistic to tackle quite so many goals | 04:25 |
| JaneW | we need to streamline better next time | 04:26 |
| ogra_ | hehe, yes, dont pick up random suggestions from users on conferences | 04:26 |
| JaneW | and prioritise | 04:26 |
| JaneW | nod nod nod | 04:26 |
| ogra_ | yup | 04:26 |
| Rondom | quote: ogra_: thats why we didnt pick icewm for this release, there is no sane and easy solution. | 04:27 |
| Rondom | does that mean icewm won't be the standard wm for edubuntu? | 04:27 |
| Rondom | hi | 04:27 |
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| ogra_ | Rondom: nope | 04:27 |
| George | hello | 04:27 |
| ogra_ | Rondom: as you can read on www.edubuntu-org | 04:27 |
| George | I'm doing an article on Linux in Education and I'm very interested in the edubuntu project | 04:28 |
| ogra_ | s/-/. | 04:28 |
| George | :) | 04:28 |
| George | ogra_: are you one of the devels? | 04:29 |
| ogra_ | yup | 04:29 |
| George | cool | 04:29 |
| George | ogra_: do you know much about the Skubuntu installations in S. Africa? | 04:29 |
| ogra_ | George: and jane_ is our release manager :) | 04:29 |
| George | :) | 04:29 |
| ogra_ | George: that would be a question for highvoltage, he's skubuntu dev | 04:30 |
| George | ah, ok | 04:30 |
| ogra_ | they presented skubuntu o our summit though | 04:30 |
| ogra_ | s/o/on | 04:30 |
| George | is there anything you can tell me about edubuntu, as the wiki seems to be a bit of a maze | 04:30 |
| George | and a bit thin on details | 04:30 |
| Rondom | george: indeed | 04:31 |
| ogra_ | its a "out of the box ltsp install" with gome desktop, educational apps and a handfull of servers like mediawiki, schooltool and moodle | 04:31 |
| George | ogra_: ah cool | 04:32 |
| George | ogra_: what's its relationship with ubuntu? | 04:32 |
| ogra_ | all stuff we develop gets developed in ubuntu | 04:32 |
| George | ah | 04:32 |
| George | ogra_: do you think you could provide me with some screenshots? | 04:32 |
| ogra_ | only the app selection that lands on the CD, the artwork and the server stuff are different | 04:33 |
| George | ok | 04:33 |
| Rondom | the wiki isn't a big maze, it's only sometimes difficult to find the things you need, but this is murphy's law | 04:33 |
| George | Rondom: hehe | 04:33 |
| Rondom | question, will there alo be live-cds for edubuntu | 04:33 |
| George | yes, that's a point | 04:33 |
| ogra_ | currently they would look like ubuntu... there is not much difference yet... i'm just fifnishing the artwork package here so we can actually use the contributed stuff | 04:33 |
| Rondom | yes | 04:34 |
| Rondom | I only considered showing other people at school edubuntu wehn it#s mature enough | 04:34 |
| George | ogra_: do you think you could send me some screenshots to publish? | 04:34 |
| ogra_ | Rondom: i planned it, but i doubt we'll have enough time this release... additionally you couldnt really use ltsp from a CD its just to slow | 04:34 |
| ogra_ | Rondom: it would be rather a presentation tool to have a liveCD | 04:35 |
| Rondom | you have a point | 04:35 |
| Rondom | ltsp wasn't the thing I would use on a live-cd | 04:35 |
| George | ogra_: please? :) | 04:35 |
| Rondom | but I doubt linux has big chance at our school | 04:36 |
| ogra_ | George: as i said, we currently look like ubuntu... as soon as we have something i can send you shots of it indeed | 04:36 |
| George | ah | 04:36 |
| George | ok | 04:36 |
| Rondom | they don't even use ff and oo, but ie and ms office | 04:36 |
| ogra_ | there is no big difference... as long as it doesnt come to visual basic driver enhancements | 04:37 |
| George | ogra_: can you tell me a bit about the Student Control Panel? | 04:37 |
| George | ogra_: or point me to some resources about it? | 04:37 |
| ogra_ | George: it is unlikely to be ready for this release, but it will give te teacher control over the logged in students and their running apps | 04:38 |
| George | ahh, cool | 04:38 |
| George | ogra_: any screenies? | 04:38 |
| ogra_ | www.grawert.net/SCP.png | 04:38 |
| ogra_ | brb | 04:39 |
| Rondom | ogra_, are you from germany | 04:42 |
| jane_ | hi George | 04:42 |
| JaneW | sorry this is really me | 04:42 |
| George | hey :) | 04:43 |
| JaneW | I have been bouncing between sessions today, trying to get a persistent connection | 04:43 |
| George | heh | 04:43 |
| JaneW | George: regarding screenshots and details etc etc | 04:43 |
| JaneW | we don't have that much available yet | 04:43 |
| George | ok | 04:43 |
| JaneW | because orga is still slaving away to get the fountation put together | 04:44 |
| JaneW | foundation even | 04:44 |
| JaneW | and it has been a challenge to say the least | 04:44 |
| JaneW | ;) | 04:44 |
| George | hardly surprising :) | 04:44 |
| George | distros are big projects | 04:44 |
| George | heh | 04:44 |
| JaneW | hopefully in the next couple of weeks we can make steady progress and start getting some nice look and feel stuff on top to | 04:45 |
| JaneW | too | 04:45 |
| George | nice | 04:47 |
| George | I presume GNOME was used as that's the default DE for Ubuntu? | 04:47 |
| George | (said like a true KDE dude) | 04:47 |
| George | :) | 04:47 |
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| Petaris | Random: What type of school? | 04:51 |
| Rondom | Petaris: do you mean me | 04:53 |
| JaneW | George: yes we are Gnome by default (althoug that was quite a debate) | 04:53 |
| Rondom | what do you want to know exactly? | 04:54 |
| George | JaneW: heh | 04:55 |
| Rondom | Petaris: are you familiar with the german school system? | 04:55 |
| Petaris | Rondom: no I'm not | 04:56 |
| Petaris | I was just curious what grade levels your school serves | 04:56 |
| Petaris | I'm K-12 here, but I'm not sure how that translates | 04:57 |
| Rondom | after primary school we have three types of school: you have one school for the good pupils, one for the average and one for the worse pupils | 04:57 |
| Rondom | I went to the gymnasium (a dictionary says it's "grammar school" in english), which is the school for better pupils. After that you go to the oberstufe | 04:58 |
| ogra_ | Rondom: ha ha | 04:58 |
| ogra_ | (school for "better" pupils) | 04:59 |
| Rondom | after finishing the oberstufe you have something similiar to the A-Levels in the english/american school-system | 04:59 |
| Rondom | ogra_, are you from germany? | 04:59 |
| ogra_ | yup | 04:59 |
| ogra_ | and i doubt that a gymnasium is a "school for better pupils" | 05:00 |
| Rondom | yes I meant | 05:00 |
| Rondom | good | 05:00 |
| Rondom | but it's is a school for better pupils | 05:00 |
| Rondom | and the realschule a school for normal pupils | 05:00 |
| Rondom | and the hauptschule is a school for pupils who are a little bit worse | 05:01 |
| Rondom | petaris, where are you from? | 05:01 |
| === ogra_ was at a comprehensive school that was in the same building with a grammar school... guess where more people left school with a good exam | ||
| Rondom | don't know | 05:02 |
| Petaris | Rondom: US | 05:02 |
| ogra_ | Rondom: not the grammar school... | 05:03 |
| Rondom | WEll, I also went to a comprehensive school, but visited grammar school there | 05:03 |
| Rondom | If you know what I mean | 05:03 |
| Rondom | There's a private grammar school in neighbourhood, and it#s the same with them. They believe they are something better | 05:04 |
| Rondom | but they aren't | 05:05 |
| Rondom | my sister went to that school and it plays a role if you donate | 05:05 |
| ogra_ | Rondom: i just dont like the term "better pupils" | 05:06 |
| ogra_ | Rondom: its like saying people living in a third world country are "dumb people" | 05:06 |
| ogra_ | just because they dont have the abilitys people in first world countrys have.... | 05:08 |
| Rondom | I also don't like it | 05:08 |
| Rondom | I don't think of me as something better, because I go to the oberstufe/went to the gymnasium | 05:09 |
| Rondom | my neighbour used a car battery, some speakers and a "bike wagon" to have music while riding his bike | 05:10 |
| George | ogra_: can I have that picture of the SCP published? | 05:10 |
| Rondom | he even built a roof for the wagon, so he can use it when it's rainy | 05:11 |
| Rondom | this is something I can't do at all | 05:11 |
| Petaris | ogra_: www.primeur.com | 05:11 |
| Petaris | er, http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/ums/ | 05:11 |
| Petaris | have you seen that before | 05:11 |
| ogra_ | George: as long as you note that its vaporware for now, sure :) | 05:11 |
| George | ogra_: heh, ok | 05:12 |
| George | ogra_: I'll say that it's in the works and could be included as early as the second release of Edubuntu | 05:12 |
| ogra_ | George: i just produced 3 screenshots from the new artwork package (note that its interim for now... we still have to get some artwork) | 05:13 |
| George | ogra_: where? | 05:13 |
| ogra_ | not uploaded yet... | 05:13 |
| George | ah, ok | 05:13 |
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| mhz | re | 05:18 |
| George | ogra_: you were educated in .uk? (just reading your comments about grammar/comprehensives) | 05:20 |
| ogra_ | George: nope, i'm german | 05:20 |
| George | ah | 05:20 |
| mhz | .oO(we should have something like Wikipedia... we could have "representatives" from each country/region and give a little support to them (hosting, mail, posters, t-shirts, etc) It's been sort of difficult to borrow a server, invest on t-shirts, biz cards, etc.) | 05:20 |
| George | ogra_: what sort of control will be given to the teacher in SCP? | 05:21 |
| ogra_ | George: only the basic... "kick this pupil out", "kill this pupils apps" and "connect to this pupils desktop" actions... | 05:23 |
| ogra_ | George: as i said before, for kiosk mode and default profiles we'll have sabayon | 05:24 |
| George | ogra_: where connect to this pupil's desktop means remote control or just monitoring? | 05:24 |
| ogra_ | a vnc connection on one click | 05:24 |
| George | ah, ok | 05:24 |
| ogra_ | the screenshot is a bit outdated, the "network" button looks already more intuitive here... | 05:25 |
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| highvoltage | hi there. just as i left work, and typed /quit and hit enter, i noticed someone said something to me here, but i missed it. | 06:07 |
| highvoltage | sorry :) | 06:07 |
| George | hey highvoltage | 06:31 |
| Petaris | Hello highvoltage | 06:40 |
| highvoltage | hi Petaris | 06:59 |
| highvoltage | (been talking to george off-channel) | 07:00 |
| George | :) | 07:00 |
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| JaneW | ogra: content filtering? Implemented orDeferred? | 08:11 |
| ogra | deferred | 08:12 |
| ogra | power management config as well | 08:12 |
| JaneW | ogra: ok will edit page now | 08:14 |
| ogra | JaneW, thanks, i was about to do it... | 08:15 |
| JaneW | np | 08:18 |
| ogra | :) | 08:19 |
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| JaneW | ogra: I like your screenshot btw..now that I have bandwidth I got a chance to see them :) | 08:21 |
| JaneW | ogra: but what's the thing that looks like a little embryo in the Usplash screen? | 08:21 |
| ogra | JaneW, the nautilus icon.... | 08:23 |
| ogra | you see it every time you log in... | 08:23 |
| JaneW | oic - it's weird! | 08:24 |
| JaneW | oh is it a shell? | 08:24 |
| ogra | yep | 08:24 |
| ogra | but a crappy one | 08:24 |
| JaneW | ok | 08:24 |
| ogra | JaneW, i thought the images as they are are placeholders for now... but we can use them if nobody provides us the artwork we need | 08:24 |
| JaneW | by=tw I know you are not the lead but do you know what's up with GraphicalPartitioningTool? I haven;t been able to get an update from Daniel Holbach | 08:25 |
| JaneW | ogra: great, at least we have a default then. I think once the CD's are stable and installable we'll get more interest in the artwork | 08:25 |
| JaneW | do you agree? | 08:25 |
| ogra | JaneW, the patch was mailed to ubuntu-devel and to the UbuntuExpress guys | 08:25 |
| JaneW | once ppl are using it they are likley to want to add to and improve it | 08:25 |
| ogra | yup | 08:25 |
| ogra | i added all the wallpapers from the wiki for now, i need to find out the names and mail adresses from all the submitters for the copyright notes... | 08:26 |
| JaneW | ogra: right... mdz thinks there are bits missing... | 08:26 |
| JaneW | "there were a set of specific modifications to gparted that Daniel was | 08:26 |
| JaneW | supposed to make, and we need to know which ones are still incomplete." | 08:26 |
| JaneW | I have no seen him on line today and he hasn't responded to my mail from Friday | 08:27 |
| ogra | ah, ok... i think he refers to the naming of mountpoints | 08:27 |
| Petaris | hrm | 08:44 |
| highvoltage | ogra, JaneW: how are you doing? | 08:46 |
| Petaris | highvoltage: how do you acomplish pushing icons to users screens? | 08:48 |
| Petaris | is it a script or do you use that gnome profile manager | 08:49 |
| ogra | ok, nvu wont make it... there is no way to support it in main security wise... | 08:53 |
| ogra | any suggestions, we have the choice between quanta or screem | 08:54 |
| ogra | #? | 08:54 |
| Petaris | ogra: is that nvu the web editor | 08:54 |
| ogra | yep | 08:54 |
| Petaris | I always had issues with it when I tried it | 08:54 |
| Petaris | that was when I used dreamweaver though | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: it's a script, borrowed from k12ltsp | 08:55 |
| Petaris | now I just use a text editor | 08:55 |
| ogra | it works fine, but due to its source its not supportable | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: a user drags the icon to an icon on their desktop (link to the script) | 08:55 |
| Petaris | highvoltage: ahh, ok | 08:55 |
| highvoltage | ths script then accepts this as an argument, and copies this link to all the other users' desktops. | 08:55 |
| JaneW | hello highvoltage | 08:55 |
| Petaris | do you know how it handles the permissions? | 08:56 |
| Petaris | oh, wait | 08:56 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i think quanta+ is very, very cool. | 08:56 |
| highvoltage | hi JaneW | 08:56 |
| Petaris | I know how I could do that | 08:56 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: i think it has a line that chowns it. | 08:56 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: i can e-mail the script to you, if you like, it's quite small. | 08:56 |
| ogra | highvoltage, the odd thing is that it depends on silly stuff like kfilereplace and uses documentation thats not in main... | 08:56 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: ok. that is silly. | 08:57 |
| Petaris | later JaneW | 08:57 |
| Petaris | highvoltage: yeah that would be great | 08:57 |
| ogra | highvoltage, but it seems to work well... | 08:57 |
| Petaris | I will end up tweaking it for use with icewm | 08:57 |
| highvoltage | ogra: ok. people will be able to install it from universe, so all is cool. | 08:58 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: your email address? | 08:58 |
| Petaris | send it to petaris@gmail.com | 08:58 |
| ogra | highvoltage, i'd like tohave everything needed on the CD... only main goes there | 08:58 |
| ogra | highvoltage, and having referrals all over the place to non existing docs isnt nice... | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | Petaris: sent | 08:59 |
| Petaris | cool, thanks | 08:59 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i understand, no problemo. | 09:00 |
| JaneW | cheers | 09:00 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: cheers! | 09:03 |
| !lilo:*! "I lift this clavicle to worlds without number, and bring a new light to the Way, guiding this gate that all may prosper, those who guide and are guided, who light the Way and bask in the light so given....Behold, I open a new world!" | 09:16 | |
| !lilo:*! --Greg Bear, _Eon_ | 09:16 | |
| !lilo:*! (Welcome to our new iteration of herbert.freenode.net, courtesy of IP Minds!) | 09:29 | |
| Rondom | can I make my ubuntu do an edubuntu by installing a meta package? | 09:51 |
| ogra | Rondom, yes | 09:51 |
| Rondom | edubuntu-desktop? | 09:51 |
| ogra | edubuntu-desktop and edubuntu-server are parts of ubuntu | 09:51 |
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| ogra | and edubuntu-artwork will hit the archive tomorrow i hope | 09:52 |
| Rondom | that means if I install a hoary and modify a after-installation script to install these packages I have everything I need for edubuntu? | 09:53 |
| ogra | Rondom, in fact our standalone workstation version will be a ubuntu with edubuntu-desktop/-artwork instead of ubuntu-desktop | 09:53 |
| ogra | Rondom, only for the standalone workstation version | 09:53 |
| ogra | the default edubuntu is a ltsp based thin client server ... | 09:54 |
| ogra | workstation will be a install option like the server option is now for ubuntu... | 09:54 |
| Rondom | whatever | 09:55 |
| Rondom | I was only asking because I got too much ubuntu cds | 09:55 |
| ogra | heh | 09:55 |
| Rondom | I ordered them at two places | 09:55 |
| ogra | CDRW is a fine invention :) | 09:56 |
| ogra | oh, ok | 09:56 |
| Rondom | and I reduced my orders at shipit.ubuntu-linux.org to zero, but I got three times more than I needed | 09:56 |
| ogra | give them away... | 09:57 |
| Rondom | that's what I plan to do | 09:57 |
| ogra | great :) | 09:57 |
| Rondom | but I don't think anyone needs them | 09:57 |
| ogra | thats whats the intention of shipit | 09:57 |
| Rondom | yeah I ordered 25 x86, 5 amd64 and 2 ppc there | 09:57 |
| ogra | Rondom, 1000 people at linuxtag thought different about it :) | 09:57 |
| Rondom | now I have around 75 x86 | 09:58 |
| Rondom | 10 amd64 | 09:58 |
| ogra | and even 500 more would have been grabbed by people if they were there | 09:58 |
| Rondom | what do you mean by that? | 09:58 |
| ogra | s/were/would have been | 09:58 |
| ogra | there were only 1000 ubuntu CDs at linuxtag... | 09:59 |
| Rondom | oh, too few | 09:59 |
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