=== trog|odyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === BTJustice [n=BTJustic@pool-68-238-1-114.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #Kubuntu === Mens [n=w00t@s5590409d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [12:27] Has anyone tried Cedega CVS (http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45)? Does it really work? === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.20.2] has joined #kubuntu [12:33] Hello, is that bug with Administer password a ubuntu+kde or a debian+kde issue ? [12:34] and that bug with kynaptic like I have to klik 100x before it prompts for my password [12:34] I've been as of yet unable to run winex cvs BTJustice. [12:49] Mens, by the 'password' bug, do you mean the fact that admin. mode on kcontrol doesn't always work ? [12:50] Mens, if so, i think its a general KDE bug, i get it to a varying degree on my LFS setup [12:51] ok, yes thats waht i mean [12:51] and i wouldn't recommend kynaptic, its not really ready for use yet, apt-get install synaptic and use that instead === apokryphos [n=dw@host-87-74-2-73.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:53] wb apokryphos [12:54] ok thx [12:55] nikkia: hi. Evil mouse randomly died; I hope it doesn't become a trend 8) [12:55] hmm [12:55] my batteries in mine died last night, which was unusal, as it'd only been about 2 weeks since i changed them last [12:56] there again, they could have been sat in the 'for future use' pre-charged pile, and NiMH discharges on the shelf [12:56] nikkia: slightly handy thing about this one (not sure if others do it), is that you can plug it up into usb when batteries die, and it charges it :P [12:57] apokryphos: i used to have an MX700 that i liked, but on the other hand, this way, i have a big pile of NiMH AAs ready for my Xbox 360 :) === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] nikkia: wireless controller? === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c2c-87.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] apokryphos: yeah [12:58] apokryphos: but MS decided to charge extra for the rechargable battery pack [12:58] apokryphos: the out of the box behaviour is to want AAs [12:58] finally; that should've come out years ago. [12:58] thankfully, i have 8 pairs of NiMH AAs here [12:59] I guess they consider the recharging too much of an issue or something before :/ [12:59] (1 pair in the keyboard, 1 pair in the mouse, 1 pair occasionally in the digicam, and the rest just waiting to be used) [12:59] nikkia: speaking of digicams, do you have any cheap ones to recommend? Gonna need one for holiday [01:00] apokryphos: it DID come out years ago, nintendo released the wavebird fairly early in the gamecube's life :) [01:00] we have one now, but it has annoying half-click-then-full-click behavior (for focusing). It *can* take good pictures, but it's annoying [01:00] apokryphos: tbh, no, i don't really keep track [01:00] oh :-O. Never heard of it; couldn't have gone too mainstream. [01:00] apokryphos: i think you'll find the half-press is standard [01:01] anything without that is good for me. It's annoying, especially when getting explaining it to others. [01:01] apokryphos: tbh, its standard in the photography world, period [01:01] my old T70 had half-press for the light meters :) [01:01] ok, so I'm going non-standard ;-) [01:01] i think even my OM1 had half-press === nikkia misses her cameras :( === __P__3 [n=princosc@host-84-220-142-238.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:03] hmmm [01:03] looks like OM1s go for about 35 on ebay [01:03] might have to invest in one, next month [01:04] my friend has a pretty nice Kodak EasyShare one. Wonder what they're like with Linux [01:04] surely most cameras just operate as a hard-drive, though [01:04] apokryphos: kodak digital cameras are generally sucky === ralph1 [n=ralphdew@66-214-31-61.dhcp.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:05] nikkia: his one would be quite perfect to my needs; takes pictures well, 4mp, displays well, has a decent adaptor; can even take videos (of not *too* shabby quality), and he's had it for some time. I'll dig up a link [01:06] apokryphos: i'd rather have a canon or even a sony tho === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c2c-87.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] and everyone has competitive cameras at around the same price, so it should be possible :) [01:06] only canon I've used is ours, and half-press I just don't like [01:06] Yeah, I suppose [01:06] nikkia: what's this... Sony? ;-) [01:07] aha, it's this one http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=1833&pq-locale=en_US [01:07] apokryphos: i have an 'ancient' DSC-P51, its the only sony product i've owned thats lasted more than 5 years [01:07] before they changed their tactics [01:07] no [01:08] i've had problems with sony stuff since 1989 [01:08] since 1988 if i'm honest [01:08] since the walkman i bought in 89 was a replacement for one i bought in 88 [01:08] apokryphos: Well you convinced me and I installed kubuntu-desktop in my Breezy test partition. After testing I found it stable enough to use daily, but for the fact that some apps I need are not there yet. So I will continue to monitor and wait for it to mature a little more. Thanks for convincing me to try it. [01:08] i don't know how, but i managed to go thru 5 sony walkmans before i realised i was being fleeced, each one lasting just over a year [01:09] nikkia: old habits die hard ;-) [01:09] ralph1: cool =). What apps? [01:09] apokryphos: what REALLY annoyed me, was that the walkman was a replacement for an Aiwa walkman that had lived a scarily long life [01:09] "Point-and-shoot simplicity" -- aha, that's the name of it. [01:10] it wasn't until 1996 that i managed to find another Aiwa that i liked, it was still alive last i saw it when i left the US [01:10] of course, now Sony own Aiwa, so thats a waste of time now :/ [01:10] apokryphos: Kmymoney2 and Gramps. I need close to the latest version for both and a synaptic search for them came up blank. [01:10] there's something I didn't know [01:10] and my Aiwa MP3 player lasted a whopping 3 weeks, so they've got the sony QA down right [01:11] apokryphos: ? [01:11] ralph1: those are both in universe, but isn't gramps gnome? [01:12] apokryphos: Gramps is gnome, there just is no KDE equivilant. What version for Kmymoney2 [01:12] nikkia: just the sony aiwa thing. There's so many small mp3 players that are just annoying as they break down so quick === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:13] apokryphos: oh, yeah, Sony bought Aiwa back in 2001ish i think it was [01:13] !info kmymoney2 [01:13] kmymoney2: (Personal finance manager for KDE), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.6.4-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1452 kB, Installed size: 4156 kB [01:13] it's just worth investing in something better; that's why so many turn to ipod [01:13] apokryphos: its a shame too, Aiwa used to be a great company, if a little unfocused [01:13] apokryphos: thats what i got as soon as i took my Aiwa back === Luen [n=luen@81-203-33-46.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] iRiver is probably the closest competition, but it lacks iPod's simplicity, and pacey navigation [01:14] i figured i could spend 50 more and have something decent, or i could keep messing around with the 'wannabes' [01:14] exactly [01:14] apokryphos: i'd quite like a iAudio X5 [01:14] apokryphos: Way to old, need Kmymoney2 version 7.4 or the latest version 0.8. I believe a MOTU is working on an update. [01:14] all the reviews say its fairly durable [01:14] still, my iRiver is perfect what I'd use it most -- work. [01:15] ralph1: good to know. Though, you know, it's very easy to compile applications ;-). I'd find it odd if one old version fo an app stopped you using a DE on a given distro === FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu [01:15] nikkia: so far so good. I'm hoping for better firmware upgrades, but I'll have to wait n' see === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.20.2] has joined #kubuntu [01:16] apokryphos: have you seen the iAudio X5 ? [01:16] nope === apokryphos googles [01:17] http://eng.iaudio.com/ [01:17] !info gramps [01:17] gramps: (Genealogical Research and Analysis Management Program), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.8-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 6161 kB, Installed size: 14128 kB === Luen [n=luen@81-203-33-46.user.ono.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:18] nikkia: new? Looks pretty flash. Similar navigation to an Ericsson [01:18] yeah, a few months old [01:19] its biggest advantage is that it pretty much plays anything [01:19] and they actually go out of their way to say its linux compatible [01:20] wow; videos too. I'd be really annoyed if this was cheap enough for me to have got before :P [01:20] i installed a language pack but tis not showing up in regianal and accesibility in control center [01:20] many formats indeed [01:20] apokryphos: 280ish for the 30GB long-play (big battery) === emihatov [n=emihatov@203.171.95.102] has joined #kubuntu [01:21] I wonder what navigation is like, and if it uses metadata properly === emihatov is now known as Bags [01:23] nikkia: you shouldn't have shown me this. I just wish I'd bought this now :P [01:23] ar well [01:23] apokryphos: the long-play version is so minor a weight/size difference, but so major a play time difference, too [01:24] ie, 4mm thicker and 35g heavier, for 35 hours instead of 14 hours [01:24] wow. My iRiver only reaches 10 hours, and 4 hours videotime [01:24] looks very flash =) [01:26] Hi room. [01:27] Can anyone tell me what Linux users use when they want to do a remote desktop session? A VNC client for KDE? [01:27] Bags: 'krdc' [01:28] its a standard app in kde, although it depends on running external vnc or rdesktop programs [01:28] nikkia: Oh, hi Nikkia. [01:28] nikkia: thanks for that. [01:28] actually, VNC access *might* be built in [01:28] nikkia: I'll try it now. [01:28] but i know it needs rdesktop installed for rdp:// access [01:29] (KDE includes a VNC server these days too :) [01:29] nikkia: Yeah, I've got that working already... I can operate my KDE from a windoze client. [01:30] bags, i generally find if the windows machine is XP, you're better off using rdesktop [01:30] apocryphos are u in the mistic river forum [01:30] in my experience, its faster, plus, directx and sound work [01:30] apokryphos* [01:31] nik: I'm not. There is one? :/ [01:31] !tab [01:31] You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC. [01:34] and on the linux command line. [01:34] whe. [01:37] and in certain well-written readline based apps :P [01:37] Hi which terminal does ubuntu use? Eterm ? [01:38] Mens: it has a few. Ubuntu uses gnome-terminal, Kubuntu -> konsole, but they both have xterm [01:38] nik: thanks for the note; seeing that a guy there is probably doing a few upgrades -- very nice. =) [01:39] ok thx [01:39] apokryphos what iriver model do u have [01:40] nik: PMP-120 [01:40] cool [01:41] right, enough work for today [01:41] work hard, play hard [01:42] d'oh, forgot the iriver usb cable at a friend's. Great; can't investigate the stuff now :/ === brk3 [n=brk3@159.134.221.121] has joined #kubuntu [01:44] heh, nice; there's little hacks to skin the iriver. Nice useless stuff; I'll end up changing the icons of things :P === error403 is now known as error410 === _bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c2c-87.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos realises that he plugged in the wrong adapter to charge the pmp, smells a bad smell from it, and gets worried :| [01:51] apokryphos: ouch. [01:51] hey all [01:52] Firetech: this could be bad; I'm gonna let it cool off first, and see [01:52] dip it in water to cool it faster... [01:52] no thanks ;-) - don't wanna get water inside [01:53] some (most?) electronics handle "voltage overruns" pretty well === martin- [n=martin@h143220.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] Firetech: this one started smelling bad, got real hot near the area, and would've probably started smoking soon. How's that? ;-) [01:54] haven't actually got the real adaptor, and it doesn't switch on now, so I'll just have to wait for now I guess. :( [01:54] I plugged in a projector clock made for 3V into an universal adapter set to 12V... Only the LED used for projector light died, and smell bad. [01:55] so any of you guys use ndis wrapper? [01:55] its revolutionary! [01:55] bz0b: i cant wait to try [01:56] bz0b: working well for you? [01:56] brk3: like a charm! [01:56] bz0b: so how does it work, am just curious. you could walk into a wifi enabled mcdonalds for example, and..? [01:57] I just bought a wireless router, 'cause I was sick of stealing my neighbors internet, 'cause I had to stand like right next to the wall, but now its all better [01:57] yup === Mens [n=w00t@s5590409d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === helias [i=vince@fac34-1-82-224-136-46.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:57] just have modprobe ndiswrapper [01:57] and bam! [01:57] just run that command === helias [i=vince@fac34-1-82-224-136-46.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:57] brb [01:57] ya but not installing it [01:58] using it === ray_ [n=ray@c-24-128-148-122.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === martin- [n=martin@h143220.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === EasterSunshine [n=EasterSu@pool-70-18-21-223.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === nikkia [n=nikkia@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:31b3] has joined #kubuntu === [EasterSunshine] [n=EasterSu@pool-70-18-21-223.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === [EasterSunshine] is now known as EasterSunshine === nmorse [i=UPP@129.244.128.90] has joined #kubuntu === apokryphos could actually get used to Linspire icons === EasterSunshine [n=EasterSu@pool-70-18-21-223.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === martin- [n=martin@h143220.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === ralph1 [n=ralph1@66-214-31-61.dhcp.lnbh.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === _biscuit [n=biscuit@1Cust974.an4.dca16.da.uu.net] has joined #kubuntu === ralph1 is away: Away at the moment === ralph1 is now known as ralph1away === stizoner [n=stizoner@249-48.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c9a-a-48.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === martin- [n=martin@h143220.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33] has joined #kubuntu === BTJustice [n=BTJustic@pool-68-238-1-114.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #Kubuntu [03:22] I use to be able to right-click on files and edit them as root, but now that options is gone after upgrading to KDE 3.4.2. How do I get that back? === _bz0b_ [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c9a-a-48.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === martin [n=martin@h143220.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === nox [n=ofer@bzq-219-110-81.cust.bezeqint.net] has joined #KUBUNTU === nox [n=ofer@bzq-219-110-81.cust.bezeqint.net] has left #KUBUNTU ["Hahahahaha!"] === apokryphos [n=dw@host-87-74-2-73.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === martin [n=martin@h143220.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu === MojoHand is now known as MojoWay === [mark] [n=mark@219.94.45.250] has joined #kubuntu === bz0b_ [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c9a-a-48.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === bz0b_ is now known as bz0 === bz0 is now known as bz0b [03:44] hey [03:45] can someone tell me the command to enter my wep key? [03:45] i just setup wep on my router [03:45] but dont know the command to set it up on linux === P3L|C4N0 o/ === stian [n=stian@213.161.251.183] has joined #kubuntu [03:58] Go to the Kubuntu foum and search for Kubuntu Wireless [03:58] *forum === _hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-186.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu === _hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-186.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === HillTop [n=chatzill@cpe-66-75-240-213.san.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === damnhil [n=h@dsl-66-243-236-146.elltel.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:10] how do I change single click on desktop icons to double click? [04:11] how do I change the default login manager? [04:11] damnhil: mouse settings. [04:12] sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm === hedrek [n=no@pool-71-96-65-28.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:15] how do I change the default login manager? [04:15] I see. thanks [04:16] I forgot to install kdm [04:17] damnhil: no problem, you can still get it from the repos === eric_ [n=eric@c-67-169-213-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:25] how do I change the language setting in KDM login manager? === eric_ is now known as edrex === damnhil [n=h@dsl-66-243-236-146.elltel.net] has left #kubuntu [] === damnhil [n=h@dsl-66-243-236-146.elltel.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:26] how do I change the language setting in KDM login manager? === Jeezis [n=roger@pdpc/supporter/student/Jeezis] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === edrex [n=eric@c-67-169-213-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.91] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] damnhil: kdesu kcontrol [04:35] and find login screen === other [n=other@69-171-118-64.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === other is now known as _other === _other is now known as _other_ === Jeezis [n=roger@pdpc/supporter/student/Jeezis] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c9a-a-48.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === ray_ [n=ray@c-24-128-148-122.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:48] hey my power supply gets extremely hot when the computer goes into power save......when i move the mouse and come out of it it is cool again? === sproingie [i=foobar@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === BTJustice [n=BTJustic@pool-68-238-1-114.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #Kubuntu === BTJustice [n=BTJustic@pool-68-238-1-114.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #Kubuntu ["Gone] [05:01] hey my power supply gets extremely hot when the computer goes into power save......when i move the mouse and come out of it it is cool again? === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.91] has joined #kubuntu [05:03] your better off shutting down your pc if your not using it [05:04] or be just like me and leave it on 24/7 to download porn [05:04] yeah i have downloads..........it has never done this before [05:05] not until i installed kde and turned on power management === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c9a-a-48.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c9a-a-48.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === bz0b [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c9a-a-48.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === PurpleMotion [n=jay@cpe-24-26-139-222.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu === vot3 is now known as b_d === andrew [n=andrew@pcp09674382pcs.bayville.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === andrew is now known as senaroth === bz0b_ [n=bz0b@ca-glendora-cuda2-c9a-a-48.arcdca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === bz0b_ is now known as bz0b === damnhil [n=h@dsl-66-243-236-146.elltel.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:32] how do I make xmms play in KDE? eSound/ALSA did not work [05:32] ray_: and why are you touching your power supply regularly? [05:35] sudo apt-get install xmms-arts [05:37] go to prefs, change output plugin to arts === Terminus [n=jquintan@13-55-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] can xmms play mp3? === [EasterSunshine] [n=EasterSu@pool-70-18-21-223.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:42] yeah [05:42] I can't make it work [05:42] whats it do? === edrex [n=eric@c-67-169-213-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:43] and/or did you do sudo apt-get install xmms-arts? [05:43] xmms does not play mp3. I haven't read the console message of xmms [05:43] I did that. I can play ogg now after I installed and configured xmms-arts [05:43] hm [05:43] im not sure [05:43] i dont think xmms is crippled in ubuntu [05:43] But I still can't play mp3. In fedora, I did that by doing yum install xmms-mp3. [05:43] yeah [05:43] because they cripple it [05:44] I canm' [05:44] I can't play mp3 in amarok either [05:44] uno momento [05:45] try [05:45] apt-get install lame [05:45] http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms [05:45] go through all that nonsense [05:45] see if it works [05:46] make sure you click how to install multimedia codecs and install that garbage too [05:46] brb === andrew [n=andrew@pcp09674382pcs.bayville.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === andrew is now known as senaroth === [EasterSunshine] is now known as EasterSunshine === eric_ [n=eric@CPE-24-163-231-200.mn.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:53] can someone tell me how to safely uninstall linux? my last attempt resulted in not being able to access anything because grub was missing. I need to remove linux and GRUB so i can install a different OS on this partition, can someone tell me how to safely remove linux? [05:54] anyone? [05:54] is anyone even in here right now? [05:54] boot in to your linux cd [05:54] like youre going to install [05:54] and? [05:54] go as far as the partition manager [05:54] remove everything [05:54] all the partitions [05:54] make a fat32 part [05:54] boot in to xp or whatever you plan on using [05:54] and go from there [05:55] and use /fixmbr or whatnot afterward [05:55] but last time i did that i lost grub which prevented me from getting into my windows partition [05:55] you dont need grub [05:55] if youre only using windows [05:55] I am using windows, and i use grub to manage my OS's [05:55] when my computer boots, it boots through GRUB [05:56] i dont know, never used grub w/o linux [05:56] i pick the os from the list grub gives me [05:56] yea [05:56] i know what you mean [05:56] i have linux, and i am on it right now [05:56] what im saying is ive never used grub to solely switch between windows os's [05:56] i need to remove or disable grub [05:57] so wait [05:57] are you trying to save data here? [05:57] or are you willing to just format everything [05:57] hell no [05:57] i want to save data [05:57] and remove linux and grub with it [05:57] and be left only with windows [05:57] i am trying to remove linux to make way for another windows OS, kind of like a back up [05:58] well you dont really need 2 OS's to back stuff up, you could just have a seperate partition [05:58] but if thats what you want to do [05:58] i would boot in to windows and use partition magic [05:58] in case one installation goes bad (and it has) i will have a backup, and i was going to use linux for that, but its too complicated for me, so i want to install another copy of windows [05:59] tremendous waste of space imho [05:59] plus one copy is windows profeesional, and the one i am trying to install is server edition [05:59] well do it that way then [05:59] windows > part magic > remove all linux partitions [05:59] the drive the server editon is going on is an old 40 gig 5400 rpm drive that i have linux on right now [06:00] make a fat32 [06:00] and partition magic's boot manager will take grubs place [06:00] but what about grub? last time i wiped the linux partition, i lost the boot manager?? [06:00] you wont need grub [06:00] partition magics boot manager [06:00] will that work? and is partiton magic built into windows? [06:00] will take its place [06:00] yea [06:00] er [06:00] no [06:00] its built on windows === kainos [n=kainos@210.213.149.126] has joined #kubuntu [06:08] help i download a printer driver from Brother. how do i install it to my ubuntu? [06:08] linux driver? [06:10] yes its in tar.gz format [06:10] i mean its a .deb format [06:10] so its .deb? [06:10] sudo dpkg -i thefile.deb [06:10] yes. is it an appropriate format? [06:10] its a debian package [06:11] ubuntu is built on debian [06:11] can i just right click it and extract? [06:11] open the console, cd to the dir that the file is in [06:11] and do dpkg -i thefile [06:11] and itll install [06:11] wen i extracted it...there are some scripts and folders...how do i install? [06:11] ok i will try.... [06:14] it has an error... [06:15] what is it [06:15] saying it cannot detect /var/spool/lpd [06:15] but i cannot create this directory from konqueror [06:15] i am in administrator mode [06:15] you shouldnt have to [06:15] did you do sudo dpkg -i thefile.deb [06:15] or just dpkg -i [06:16] i did sudo dpkg -i filname.deb [06:16] still d same === FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu [06:18] Unpacking replacement mfc9160lpr ... [06:18] /var/lib/dpkg/info/mfc9160lpr.postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file or directory [06:18] dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 127 [06:18] dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... [06:18] /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file or directory [06:18] dpkg: error processing mfc9160lpr-1.1.2-1.i386.deb (--install): [06:18] subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 127 [06:18] /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 3: /etc/init.d/lpd: No such file or directory [06:18] dpkg: error while cleaning up: [06:18] subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127 [06:18] Errors were encountered while processing: [06:18] hmm [06:19] lpd isnt started [06:19] hold on [06:19] ok... [06:21] try [06:21] ok... [06:21] /etc/init.d/lpd start [06:21] in the console === Jeezis [n=roger@pdpc/supporter/student/Jeezis] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [06:22] it says no such file or directory [06:23] ok [06:23] sudo apt-get install cupsys [06:23] ok [06:24] ok just did [06:24] whatd it do/say? [06:24] building dependey tree done [06:25] dats it [06:25] ok [06:25] now [06:25] sudo ln -s /usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd /etc/init.d/ [06:25] ok [06:25] and then try the file [06:25] dpkg -i again [06:25] after that [06:25] ok... === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.91] has joined #kubuntu [06:26] i actually [06:26] wonder if your printer would work without a driver [06:26] it might be natively supported [06:26] ok [06:26] then wait... [06:26] do this [06:26] first [06:26] kde menu > utilities > print manager [06:27] click the add tab [06:27] click printer [06:27] and go from there [06:27] (with printer plugged in) [06:27] ok wait... [06:29] sorry cnt still see it. its has problems while dpkg -i it [06:29] did you try what i said [06:29] kde menu utils print manager [06:30] yes. but its not listed there it should appear as MFC9160 [06:31] not listed there? [06:31] you did add printer [06:31] you selected local printer [06:32] and you selected the port its attached to? [06:32] yes [06:32] and it says theres nothing there at all? [06:33] there are but not what i was expecting...mfc9160 [06:33] have to grab luch..be back in 30 mins [06:33] if it detects something attached to the right port [06:33] just use it [06:33] and see if it works [06:33] it may not matter [06:33] and ok [06:33] peace === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-67-169-87-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.91] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-126.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === _root [n=root@ivr94-4-82-229-165-204.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:47] hi === trog|odyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mhamaker [n=mhamaker@modemcable078.189-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] hey all === _juanito [n=juanito@69.158.96.116] has joined #kubuntu [06:51] I am killing myself here [06:51] ? [06:52] Anyone willing to take a few to help me out with a little samba? [06:52] I would if I could get SAMBA working on my box [06:52] unfortunately I can't share any dirs === juanito_ [n=juanito@69.158.102.109] has joined #kubuntu [06:52] I assume that's your problem as well right? [06:52] hahaha [06:53] well I was trying to get printer sharing to work [06:53] yeah [06:53] never even hit the wall of folders! [06:53] DOH! [06:53] does your networking not work? [06:53] or are you able to share files as well as access them? [06:53] Well I used to have XP on this box and then found Kubuntu :) [06:53] the XP worked 100% [06:54] plus I am on the net so it's working [06:54] can't even see the lin box from windows [06:54] I have a dual boot just in case I get frustrated with any one operating system [06:54] lol [06:54] lol [06:54] I hear you [06:54] yeah [06:54] you're having the same problem I have [06:54] you can't share folders [06:54] I have the XP as a safety net, I am new to linux [06:54] crap! [06:54] HELP! [06:54] well this is a good distro to start on [06:55] we're sinking and we can't swim :) [06:55] well [06:55] I can try and fix it [06:55] I was trying to fix my instant messengers [06:55] or at least one of them [06:55] hehe [06:55] gaim makes this annoying system beeping sound [06:55] I got GAIM working [06:55] instead of using my sound card [06:55] well [06:55] I compiled my version [06:55] so it's a little messed up [06:55] cool [06:55] I might downgrade [06:55]