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tsengwe made #ubuntu-mono because i am tired of msging with people01:08
tsengand having a ton of open windows01:08
tsengmbreit is not here :/01:09
tsengi thought there was another01:09
lathiat /join #ubuntu-monu01:10
lathiatbah01:10
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hubwhat if for one of my package I need a package already in debian ?01:58
hubbut not in ubuntu01:59
SloMoSnailhub: ask elmo to sync it from debian02:00
hubhow ?02:03
hubis there a precodure >02:03
SloMoSnailhub: just write him a mail and describe why you need this package02:05
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hubokay02:06
hubchecking02:07
hubnot even sure it is in debian02:07
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apokryphosis there any chance of getting musicbrainz in universe with mp3 support?02:27
apokryphosit's in MAIN so that amaroK can use it, but it's quasi-useless as the tagging ability can't be used with mp3s02:28
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lathiatsiretart, ajmitch: what are my chances of getting avahi packages into universe? :)03:40
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ajmitchlathiat: depends on how much $$ you're willing to cough up? ;)03:45
lathiatajmitch: haha03:45
ajmitchit's just a lib, or it has apps with it?03:46
lathiatboth03:46
ajmitchright03:47
ajmitchyou're upstream?03:47
lathiatyep03:47
ajmitchsweet03:47
lathiatross burton did the debianization tho03:47
lathiatnot that that really matters03:47
ajmitchso where are the packages?03:48
lathiati havent got them off ross yet03:48
lathiatlater today03:48
ajmitchget packages before begging for inclusion ;)03:49
=== ajmitch might find avahi useful
lathiathaha they're done and i've seen whats in them i just dont have them off him yet :)03:49
lathiatwill do :)03:49
ajmitchhmm03:50
ajmitchrtl8180-kernel package on revu03:50
ajmitchdse sell a few of those cards03:50
lathiatyeh03:51
ajmitchmight be better in the mainline kernel if it's stable03:52
ajmitch(for breezy+1, I guess)03:52
ajmitchso is avahi 0.1 actually released then? :)03:53
lathiatyes03:53
lathiatit is03:53
lathiatthis morning03:53
lathiathttp://bur.st/~lathiat/avahi/announcement-0.103:53
lathiathttp://www.freedesktop.org/Software/Avahi03:53
ajmitchwill ross be uploading to sid?03:54
lathiatwell03:54
lathiatdebian doesn have python-gtk2 yet03:54
lathiatand i dont even know if they have dbus 0.3x yet03:54
lathiatso i suspect not for a bit03:54
ajmitchyou  mean no python-gtk2 2.8?03:55
ajmitchbecause pygtk2 has been in sid for a *long* time03:55
lathiati have no idea i dont use it03:55
lathiati just heard people say it doesnt have it03:55
ajmitchhah03:55
ajmitchbeen there since 200203:56
lathiatpython2.4-gtk2 ?03:56
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ajmitchno, python-gtk203:56
ajmitchdoes avahi require python2.4?03:58
ajmitchI see it does.. why is that? :)03:58
lathiatumm03:58
lathiatactually i think dbus require 2.403:58
ajmitchright..03:59
ajmitchcrackful03:59
lathiatso we implicitly do03:59
lathiatthats just a guess03:59
lathiatim not 100% sure03:59
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ajmitchsid has dbus 0.23.4-303:59
lathiatyeh we need 0.3x03:59
lathiatwhich i think is in experimental04:00
ajmitchyes, sid is quite conservative :)04:00
lathiatyeh dbus 0.3 wants python 2.404:01
lathiat0.35, err04:01
lathiatand unfortunately avahi-publish doesnt work without cvs of breezys version because of a bug in the bindings (everythign else works tho)04:02
lathiatwe're not on the bleeding edge of stuff, honest. :)04:02
ajmitchit'll make backports fun ;)04:02
lathiati may work on getting dbus 0.23 support04:02
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Burgundaviaajmitch, making backports fun is the goal of any good packager, no?04:15
ajmitchBurgundavia: of course04:16
ajmitchthat's why you need to build-dep on all the latest goodies04:16
ajmitchBurgundavia: btw, welcome to the old age of 23 ;)04:17
Burgundaviaajmitch, thank you, 22 was a pretty good year04:17
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ajmitchhi robitaille04:28
robitaillehi ajmitch04:29
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ajmitchmorning \sh06:43
\shhey ajmitch06:45
\shhmmm06:45
ajmitch\sh: I was kind & added some comments to your package on revu :)06:45
ajmitchand I'll look at njam once I'm at home06:46
\shajmitch: njam i have to fix06:47
ajmitch\sh: the laptop channel can be irritating sometimes :)06:50
\shgrmpf why is amule with libgtkwx2.6 building and not on the buildds06:51
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\shajmitch: nono...06:51
Brunellushi there.  is there going to be an updated dcraw in breezy?06:51
ajmitch\sh: url for build log?06:51
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\shhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/amule/2.0.3-1ubuntu3/amule_2.0.3-1ubuntu3_20050821-1818-i386-failed.gz06:52
\shbecause of build-deps06:52
ajmitchah, that is a problem06:52
\shbut on my pbuilder it works06:52
ajmitchsure06:52
\shwell..I'm checking again06:52
ajmitchbut libwxgtk2.6-0 must be uninstallable on the build for another reason06:53
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lathiatmm gotta pay $250 in import taxes for my laptop07:17
lathiatyay07:17
Burgundavialathiat, so did I07:17
lathiatthink i can claim it back tho so that'l be ok07:17
lathiatjust haugh to cough it up07:17
lathiat*have to07:17
Burgundavialathiat, if it is a Canonical laptop, then you should be able to07:18
lathiatBurgundavia: yeh07:18
jsgotangcoyeah07:18
Burgundavialathiat, jsut make sure you get a receit07:18
jsgotangcobut if you have a problem with money07:18
jsgotangcoinform cvd07:18
jsgotangcoi paid 136 GBP on taxes07:18
lathiatwhich is07:19
lathiat$323 au07:19
lathiatyeh i'll be something similar07:19
jsgotangcoa lot of money on my country07:19
lathiatfind out tomorrow07:19
lathiatjsgotangco: yeh thats what i get per fortnight heh07:19
jsgotangcomy laptop alone can buy a 2nd hand toyota over here07:19
lathiatheh07:20
Burgundaviaso could mine07:20
Burgundaviabut you might get a nicer car for the same amount where you two live07:20
lathiati could get something ok07:20
jsgotangcoi could get something better or even buy a brand new scooter07:21
jsgotangcoill got invited to speak in a local university next week so I will be able to show off my Breezy powered M207:22
jsgotangcoheh07:22
lathiatcool07:22
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siretartmorning09:31
siretartwh0ps.09:31
ajmitchhi siretart09:31
siretartthere are quite some packages in universe needing a rebuild for new libcairo.. :)09:32
siretarthuhu ajmitch09:32
siretartand /me is offline at home, where my gnupg key is09:32
siretartdsl modem died..09:32
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ajmitchyeah we'll get onto rebuilding them asap :)09:38
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kagouhi11:19
kagousomeone can tell me the exact version of gimp-ufraw in breezy ?11:20
Mithrandirgimp-ufraw |      0.4-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages11:21
kagou0.4-1 normally, but in debian they have :0.4-1 and : 0.4+cvs20050818-111:21
kagouMithrandir, so we don't know wich cvs version is ufraw11:22
kagouif i look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/gimp-ufraw and i see that in the diff.gz the last modification is " feb 2005"11:25
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kagouwhere or who do i contact/ask for this package update ? (sorry for my english i'm french)11:27
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siretartkagou: you would have to ping elmo for that11:31
kagouthanks siretart11:31
ajmitchsiretart: but we don't just break UVF for no reason :)11:33
ajmitchand I think elmo likes to hear a sync request from a MOTU (at least)11:33
siretartthats right11:34
siretartkagou: before requesting, why would you want the upgrade? you should give a rationale, preferably mentioning important and relevant bugreports and numbers11:35
kagouok siretart11:35
kagousiretart, there is no bugreport for gimp-ufraw, in ubuntu, and two request (wishs, one for upgrade) in debian bugzilla. So it's not a dangerous paquet. But is last version in ubuntu (feb 2005) don't allow many users to use their camera.11:39
kagoui think that we can raisonably update this paqckage. am i wrong ?11:39
kagousiretart, or sync11:40
ajmitchwe should ask smurfix..11:40
ajmitchas he's the debian maintainer :)11:40
kagousiretart, another thing, i don't understand why this package as not be sync in ubuntu11:42
ajmitchkagou: because breezy is frozen for new upstream versions11:43
ajmitchand we have to justify breaking the freeze11:43
ajmitchI see that the version you are requesting was only uploaded _very_ recently into unstable11:45
kagouajmitch : ah ok ...11:49
kagouReason to sync :11:49
kagou1/ Many users want's that version ;)11:49
kagou2/ package not dangerous11:49
kagouexemple, the CANON REBEL XT (also know as 350d) is a best seller. Many users have bought it, but it can not work in the futur breezy without the sync.11:51
kagouthat's the same problem ith pentax *isdt and last nikon11:51
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ajmitchright11:52
ajmitchif I see smurfix around, I'll ask his opinion, & then ask for a sync..11:53
kagouajmitch, many thx :)11:53
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kagouajmitch, smurfix is on #ubuntu-devel ;)11:54
ajmitchyes, I know11:54
kagoulol11:54
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slomo\sh: i'll have a look at gajim now... :) looks really interesting... are the icq/msn transports on jabberme stable? i'm currently using jabber.ccc.de and switched to gaim because of constantly crashing transports ;)01:29
\shslomo: yes...01:30
\shslomo: i'm running ejabberd as server and with the pyicq-t/pyaim-t/pymsn-t transports...proxy65 bytestream proxy...the rest is build in...so there's no yahoo transport, cause I didn't find any good, and easy solution for it01:31
\shthe actual yahoo transport is a bit tricky to build...when i have time, i will build a package for jabberd2/ejabberd01:31
slomo\sh: so you're running your own jabber server?01:33
\shslomo: it's mine yes01:34
\shjabberme.net/.org/.de sourcecode.de linux-server.org all available...01:34
slomo\sh: oh ok... is it public? and are the transports open for users of other servers? ;)01:35
\shslomo: normally yes, do a service discover on jabberme.net (this is the server where the transports are running on)01:35
slomo\sh: fine, i'll test it later :)01:36
\shslomo: i just started yesterday with enhancing gajim...to use URGENT window hint :) (thx to Mez for the tip)01:37
slomo\sh: :) can you include this as a patch in you package? ;) and does it set urgent only on new chats or every time when someone writes something?01:38
slomohm, why don't you use dh_python for gajim?01:39
\shslomo: i have to decide...first it has to work :)01:39
slomo\sh: ok... when you need help... i have nothing useful todo atm ;)01:39
\shslomo: are u interessted in the ShtoomVoip Goal?01:40
\shslomo: i checked latest shtoom (SVN HEAD) and it worked..but the GUI is more then a mess01:40
slomo\sh: W: gajim: extra-license-file usr/share/gajim/COPYING01:40
siretart.oO( me remembers, there are open reviews for dnspyhton and gaijm... )01:40
\shslomo: and now with gajim hitting the archives in the next days i would like to cretae a client for both...shtoom and jabber to have everything in one client01:41
\shslomo: pls write all the issues on REVU..so i can fix it later01:41
slomosiretart: while you're at it... can you also look at g-p-m and nemerle? ;)01:41
siretartslomo: sorry, I'm at work. cant do any reviews right now01:42
slomosiretart: no problem :)01:42
slomo\sh: ok, i'll do :) ok, you want to implement shtoom into gajim? hm, sounds interesting :)01:42
\shslomo: actually I want to have IM and Voice in one client...01:42
kagouajmitch, re hi, have you seen smurfix ?01:43
\shslomo: because roster handling can be nicely integrated..01:43
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\shslomo: if i find a way to have a new xml xmpp item for SIP roster items...01:43
slomook... hm... /me looks at dnspython now ;)01:45
\shslomo: and be aware...dnspython i will change from install-dep to suggest...cause gajim works as well without it...but doesn't comply with new xmpp 1.0 tls and dns srv lookup01:46
slomohm, in that case i would leave it in Depends01:47
TreenaksDoes anyone here know how to do strikethrough text on the wiki?01:47
\shslomo: hmm...01:47
\shslomo: ok..01:48
\shnew gnome-panel01:50
\shlemme check on my other laptop if it's not crashing anymore01:50
slomo\sh: for me it isn't crashing anymore... and i updated 1 hour ago ;)01:51
\shslomo: ok..then i can update my r200 now :)01:51
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siretart\sh: new gnome-menus. no crashes for me since then (ok, thats 5min ;))01:52
\shsiretart: i will see in just a minute :)01:53
slomouh... gajim has an option to SAVE the gpg passphrase...01:53
\shslomo: psi as well01:54
\shI have to check how to use gpg-agent01:54
\shpsi can do both01:54
slomowould be much better... the way it is now is just freaky ;) people who save their passphrase somewhere have to be shot ;)01:55
slomobtw... wasn't there a newer xmpp standard for encryption which doesn't use gpg?01:56
\shyes01:56
\shthere r many01:56
\shotr as in gaim01:56
\shgpg as in psi01:56
\shand there will be a new jep01:56
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slomohm... now only xchat crashed... =)01:57
\shhehe01:57
slomo\sh: does gajim work with ssl for you?01:59
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\shslomo: yes02:01
\shslomo: but02:02
slomo\sh: yeah i know... tls ;)02:02
siretartthere is also gnome-keyring manager02:02
\shslomo: and ssl+tls can't work together02:02
\shslomo: and I saw the last time when I used pyxmpp that it has problems to deal with iit02:03
Treenaksuh.. TLS and SSL are _the same thing_ basically, almost :)02:03
\shTreenaks: yes...but if u try to establish via ssl connection a tls handshake?02:03
\shand for jabber: tls is going port 5222 as normal without tls...and ssl is using port 522302:04
\shand i think that's the problem02:04
Treenaks\sh: there are 2 ways to create an SSL XMPP (Jabber) connection02:04
slomo\sh: when using service discovery i can't find the icq transport on jabberme.org... only conference and irc02:04
\shjabberme.net02:04
Treenaks\sh: 1 is "the old way", which is using a different port, and using SSL02:04
Treenaks\sh: the other is the "new way", which is using a "STARTTLS" like command02:05
\shTreenaks: yes...but pyxmpp tries to handshake tls even over old ssl port02:05
Treenaks\sh: ooh, braindeadness02:05
\shso u have a ssl connection already running...and the handshake tries to do it again :)02:05
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\shbut this i have to debug/02:05
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mbreithi all02:13
slomohi moritz :)02:13
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siretartis it somehow possible to speed up evince? it is so dogslow for me :(02:51
mbreitsiretart: i have that problem as well...02:52
Mithrandirsiretart: get a faster computer. :-P02:53
siretart:P02:53
siretartgnarf. xpdf br0ken :(02:56
siretartwunderfulll. xpdf FTBFS :(03:02
\shbrb03:14
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\shre03:20
mbreithi \sh03:20
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\shhmmm...03:23
\shthe bytestream proxies are hardcoded.03:23
\shoh aim don't let me in03:32
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YagisanG'day All03:43
slomohi Yagisan03:43
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YagisanLooking for 3 Advocates for deng, and deng-iwad-*.installer03:44
Yagisan:)03:44
slomoYagisan: you'll get one this evening ;)03:45
Yagisanthanks slomo03:45
Yagisanbefore anyone asks, yes deng-iwad-*-installer are supposed to be native packages03:45
YagisanI wrote them specfically for Debian03:45
Yagisanand Ubuntu03:45
siretartYagisan: mmmh03:46
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slomosiretart: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/t/transcode/2:1.0.0-0.4ubuntu1/03:48
slomosiretart: why was it only built for amd64?03:48
siretartslomo: because transcode is in dep-wait, and needs to be moved out by a buildd admin03:49
Yagisansiretart, re: native packages: it's a shell script, and a dependency for other packages - no use outside of debian and ubuntu03:49
slomosiretart: oh ok... did you already ping elmo for this?03:49
siretartYagisan: I prefer seperating packaging and functional parts of packages. native package merge them, which I don't like03:50
siretartslomo: no buildd admin was available before, maybe you want to try again ;)03:50
slomosiretart: nope... i already asked elmo and lamont something else a few hours ago and got no answer ;)03:51
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Yagisansiretart: Give one or two of the deng-iwad-*-installers a once over, if you are unhappy with it, I'll look into seeing how to merge it with deng.03:55
siretartYagisan: I cannot review them atm, I'm at work. but if they are really just small shellscripts, I'd consider including them in /usr/share/doc/deng/examples03:56
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Yagisanthey are 4k, I need a postinst hook to make sure it is the right iwad and slot it in the right sopt, and a prerm hook to delete on purge. It also has a dependency that my repo uses as a hook to install even more data packages (that won't be sent to revu)04:00
Yagisanslomo: you might want to hold off advocating deng atm04:00
siretarti see04:03
Yagisanthe deng-iwad-tnt-installer is a little different, it does everything the others do, and includes a patch wad to correct a known flaw with tnt.wad04:05
siretartok, will have to take a closer look before guessing around ;)04:08
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Yagisanno problems04:09
YagisanNafallo: ping04:09
rbelemhi all. i'm looking for advocates to muse-streamer ;-)04:10
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ivokshi04:11
rbelemhi ;-)04:12
YagisanG'day04:12
ivokslot's of new people :)04:13
sedakhello all04:17
sedaki'm also looking for people to advocate rtl8180-kernel04:17
sedak... what's a native package ?04:18
Yagisanrbelem: Is muse-streamer supposed to be a native package ? (Usually not, but there are some exceptions)04:18
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Yagisansedak: A native package is one without an upstream .orig.tar.gz04:19
sedakok04:19
sedakthanks04:19
Yagisansedak: they are only supposed to be for packages created exclusively for debian/ubuntu where debian/ubuntu IS the upstream04:20
rbelemYagisan, i just made some changes in name and removed some cvs dirs04:21
Yagisantheres no .diff.gz04:21
Yagisanrbelem: you'll be asked to repackage it using the orig.tar.gz04:22
rbelemYagisan, replace the by the upstream?04:24
rbelemYagisan, i didn't understand very well ;-)04:26
Yagisanrbelem: when you ran dpkg-buildpackage, it couldn't find your orig.tar.gz file (possibly because the names didn't match)04:26
Yagisanto fix it I think all you need to do is unpack your package04:26
Yagisandownload the upstream tarball to the directory you have unpacked to04:27
Yagisanrename upstream tarball to muse-streamer.orig.tar.gz04:28
Yagisanand when you run dpkg-buildpackage again, you should get the orig.tar.gz, a .diff.gz, and a .dsc04:28
rbelemYagisan, i already did it and used dpkg-buildpackge -S04:30
Yagisanrbelem, you fixed it ?04:31
rbelemYagisan, yep ;-)04:31
tsenghm we got in what look like some nocona boxes04:32
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Yagisanrbelem: then just do a new upload. it built on amd64, and no lintian errors for me04:33
rbelemYagisan, oki ;-)04:34
Yagisanrbelem: sorry I can't advocate, I'm not a motu04:35
rbelemYagisan, no problem... you helped a lot ;-)04:37
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Yagisanrbelem: thanks, and your welcome04:38
rbelemYagisan, no, i have to thank you ,-)04:43
tsengsiretart: why would we backport security fixes?04:48
tsengsiretart: there is a universe security04:48
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ivokshi tseng04:50
tsenghi04:50
ivoksam...04:50
ivoksare we aware that acpi-support is broken in many ways? :)04:51
YagisanGood night All04:58
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kagouhi05:58
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kagoure ajmitch . have you could seen smurfix for gimp-ufraw ?05:59
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siretarttseng: well, if you want to backport the issues, no problem. Since the backport fixes some other issues as well, it seems to me much more convinient for both maintainers and users06:16
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herziogra: can you take a look at https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1841/ please07:11
herzii need this fixed to fix a bug in ruby-gnome2 but i cannot build ruby-gnome2 without libgtkglext1-dev07:11
ograherzi, i saw it on #ubuntu-bugs already... we are in a big rebuild for the GLU x transition stuff...07:12
ograit will take a while07:12
herziokay07:12
\shherzi: provide a debdiff and put it on the web and provide the link here07:12
\shf*ck mozilla is a monster of sh*t07:13
ograyes07:13
herziwow, that's been fixed within the last 10 hours07:14
\shit was all in the queue .. infinity had only to w807:14
herzican someone please close that bug mentioned above?07:16
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\shherzi: did libgtkglext1 build?07:17
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siretartis Lorenzo Villani here?07:27
siretartdoes anyone know him?07:28
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Meztseng: ping08:06
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hervehello08:12
\shhey herve08:13
hervestephan!08:13
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tsengMez: hi09:02
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Meztseng: ruby should be fixed09:04
tsengMez: awesome09:04
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Mezinterpreters/ruby1.8_1.8.2-9~hoary1: Installed by buildd+rothera [optional:uncompiled] 09:04
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sedakvotes are not allowed on bugzilla.ubuntu ?09:31
sedakthat would have been cool ...09:31
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YagisanG'day All10:36
hervehello10:42
Yagisancould anyone with with a powerpc system email me a build log for deng in revu to jamie_jones_au@yahoo.com.au10:46
YagisanThanks10:47
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hervenighta!11:19
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ajmitchmorning11:32
\shoh damn11:34
\shi wanted to go to bed long ago11:34
ajmitchheh11:34
ajmitchgo sleep then11:34
\shwill do after this cigarette :)11:37
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\shhmm...i wonder if I get one of this sponsor journeys11:39
Nafallo?11:40
ajmitch\sh: to montreal?11:40
Meztseng: ping11:40
ajmitchyou ought to11:40
tsengMez: hi11:40
Meztseng: you've been workign on mythtv?11:41
tsengMez: yes11:41
Mezhmm11:41
MezI cant get it to compile11:41
Mezand when I use whats in ubuntu11:41
MezI just er..11:41
Mezget it saying it's been compiled without support for any video output11:41
Mezhehe11:41
MezI think I may be able to fix that11:42
MezIt's just configure looking in the wrong places for things11:42
MezI think11:42
=== ajmitch keeps filling up /var lately :(
tsenghaha, i am at 75% on var on my main server11:43
tsengkeeping a year worth of data in RRDtool for 200 devices11:43
\shMez: mythtv compiles on i38611:43
Meztseng: is it not worth compiling with xrandr support?11:43
ajmitchhere it's /var/cache/apt-proxy11:44
tsengMez: beats me11:44
ajmitchtime for lvextend, I think11:44
Mez\sh :D in a pbuild maybe11:44
tsengajmitch: i clean that11:44
tsengajmitch: keep 2 revisions11:44
\shMez: it's on the buildds11:44
\shand compiled11:44
Mez\sh :P11:44
tsengi need to get apt-proxy at work11:44
\shbut not on amd64/ppc11:44
ajmitchtseng: I was keeping 5, for some reason11:44
Mez\sh yeah - but - I was gettgin gcc4errors caus ei have build-essential on my machine11:44
\shMez: u checked the gcc dependency?11:45
MezI wanna see the build logss for it :D11:45
Mez\sh :P11:45
tsengMez: thanks for rails11:45
\shMez: the old package defaults to gcc-3.311:45
Meztseng: no probs11:46
\shMez: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/m/mythtv/0.18-2ubuntu2/mythtv_0.18-2ubuntu2_20050820-1441-i386-successful.gz11:46
tseng!!!!!!11:46
Mezalready viewing11:46
tsengfirefox wont start11:46
tsengyou must be kidding11:46
ajmitchtseng: yeah, known issue I heard11:46
\shhehe..for only under kde not11:46
Mezhmm11:46
\shfor me is it not starting on kde i mean11:47
tsengwell F*#$ me11:47
\shgnome is just fine11:47
tsengso much for doing anything11:47
=== ajmitch has been using galeon anyway
\shuse mozilla or konqueror or epyphnie.11:47
Mezff is working for me11:47
\shyack...i sound like seb128 :)11:47
Mezunless something was updated11:47
Mezsince this morning11:48
=== Mez just wants to play PSOne on his comp
\shgnight dudes...cu tomorrow11:50
Meztseng: have you any idea why mythtv is broked for me?11:50
Meztseng: is it broked for everyone?11:51
tsengno?11:51
tsengi dont even know what you are getting at11:51
tsengthere are about 10000 ways to break mythtv11:52
Meztseng: I cant get it to output any video AT ALL11:52
tsengi see11:52
tsengI can11:52
Mezdamn caps11:52
Mezgrr11:52
MezIt just says "not compiled with any output options211:53
Mezor something11:53
MezI can get it to show stuff on screen and whatnot11:53
Mezbut nothing else11:53
tsengMez: http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/RailsOnUbuntuDebianTestingAndUnstable :)11:58
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tsengi thought id never see the day11:58
tsengnice work.11:59
ajmitchupdate the rest of the page11:59
tsengwhat about it?11:59
Mezhehe :D11:59
ajmitchunless it's still broken?11:59
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tsengwhats broken?11:59
ajmitchthe bit about building ruby yourself on hoary11:59
tsengoh um11:59
tsengi changed that to warty i thought12:00
tsengi see12:00
tsengholy crap12:01
tsengthese guys wrote a book12:01
Mezlol12:01
tsengman i am deleting like mad12:02
Mezctrl+a, backspace12:03

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