[01:08] <tseng> we made #ubuntu-mono because i am tired of msging with people
[01:08] <tseng> and having a ton of open windows
[01:09] <tseng> mbreit is not here :/
[01:09] <tseng> i thought there was another
[01:10] <lathiat>  /join #ubuntu-monu
[01:10] <lathiat> bah
[01:58] <hub> what if for one of my package I need a package already in debian ?
[01:59] <hub> but not in ubuntu
[02:00] <SloMoSnail> hub: ask elmo to sync it from debian
[02:03] <hub> how ?
[02:03] <hub> is there a precodure >
[02:05] <SloMoSnail> hub: just write him a mail and describe why you need this package
[02:06] <hub> okay
[02:07] <hub> checking
[02:07] <hub> not even sure it is in debian
[02:27] <apokryphos> is there any chance of getting musicbrainz in universe with mp3 support?
[02:28] <apokryphos> it's in MAIN so that amaroK can use it, but it's quasi-useless as the tagging ability can't be used with mp3s
[03:40] <lathiat> siretart, ajmitch: what are my chances of getting avahi packages into universe? :)
[03:45] <ajmitch> lathiat: depends on how much $$ you're willing to cough up? ;)
[03:45] <lathiat> ajmitch: haha
[03:46] <ajmitch> it's just a lib, or it has apps with it?
[03:46] <lathiat> both
[03:47] <ajmitch> right
[03:47] <ajmitch> you're upstream?
[03:47] <lathiat> yep
[03:47] <ajmitch> sweet
[03:47] <lathiat> ross burton did the debianization tho
[03:47] <lathiat> not that that really matters
[03:48] <ajmitch> so where are the packages?
[03:48] <lathiat> i havent got them off ross yet
[03:48] <lathiat> later today
[03:49] <ajmitch> get packages before begging for inclusion ;)
[03:49] <lathiat> haha they're done and i've seen whats in them i just dont have them off him yet :)
[03:49] <lathiat> will do :)
[03:50] <ajmitch> hmm
[03:50] <ajmitch> rtl8180-kernel package on revu
[03:50] <ajmitch> dse sell a few of those cards
[03:51] <lathiat> yeh
[03:52] <ajmitch> might be better in the mainline kernel if it's stable
[03:52] <ajmitch> (for breezy+1, I guess)
[03:53] <ajmitch> so is avahi 0.1 actually released then? :)
[03:53] <lathiat> yes
[03:53] <lathiat> it is
[03:53] <lathiat> this morning
[03:53] <lathiat> http://bur.st/~lathiat/avahi/announcement-0.1
[03:53] <lathiat> http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/Avahi
[03:54] <ajmitch> will ross be uploading to sid?
[03:54] <lathiat> well
[03:54] <lathiat> debian doesn have python-gtk2 yet
[03:54] <lathiat> and i dont even know if they have dbus 0.3x yet
[03:54] <lathiat> so i suspect not for a bit
[03:55] <ajmitch> you  mean no python-gtk2 2.8?
[03:55] <ajmitch> because pygtk2 has been in sid for a *long* time
[03:55] <lathiat> i have no idea i dont use it
[03:55] <lathiat> i just heard people say it doesnt have it
[03:55] <ajmitch> hah
[03:56] <ajmitch> been there since 2002
[03:56] <lathiat> python2.4-gtk2 ?
[03:56] <ajmitch> no, python-gtk2
[03:58] <ajmitch> does avahi require python2.4?
[03:58] <ajmitch> I see it does.. why is that? :)
[03:58] <lathiat> umm
[03:58] <lathiat> actually i think dbus require 2.4
[03:59] <ajmitch> right..
[03:59] <ajmitch> crackful
[03:59] <lathiat> so we implicitly do
[03:59] <lathiat> thats just a guess
[03:59] <lathiat> im not 100% sure
[03:59] <ajmitch> sid has dbus 0.23.4-3
[03:59] <lathiat> yeh we need 0.3x
[04:00] <lathiat> which i think is in experimental
[04:00] <ajmitch> yes, sid is quite conservative :)
[04:01] <lathiat> yeh dbus 0.3 wants python 2.4
[04:01] <lathiat> 0.35, err
[04:02] <lathiat> and unfortunately avahi-publish doesnt work without cvs of breezys version because of a bug in the bindings (everythign else works tho)
[04:02] <lathiat> we're not on the bleeding edge of stuff, honest. :)
[04:02] <ajmitch> it'll make backports fun ;)
[04:02] <lathiat> i may work on getting dbus 0.23 support
[04:15] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, making backports fun is the goal of any good packager, no?
[04:16] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: of course
[04:16] <ajmitch> that's why you need to build-dep on all the latest goodies
[04:17] <ajmitch> Burgundavia: btw, welcome to the old age of 23 ;)
[04:17] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, thank you, 22 was a pretty good year
[04:28] <ajmitch> hi robitaille
[04:29] <robitaille> hi ajmitch
[06:43] <ajmitch> morning \sh
[06:45] <\sh> hey ajmitch
[06:45] <\sh> hmmm
[06:45] <ajmitch> \sh: I was kind & added some comments to your package on revu :)
[06:46] <ajmitch> and I'll look at njam once I'm at home
[06:47] <\sh> ajmitch: njam i have to fix
[06:50] <ajmitch> \sh: the laptop channel can be irritating sometimes :)
[06:51] <\sh> grmpf why is amule with libgtkwx2.6 building and not on the buildds
[06:51] <\sh> ajmitch: nono...
[06:51] <Brunellus> hi there.  is there going to be an updated dcraw in breezy?
[06:51] <ajmitch> \sh: url for build log?
[06:52] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/amule/2.0.3-1ubuntu3/amule_2.0.3-1ubuntu3_20050821-1818-i386-failed.gz
[06:52] <\sh> because of build-deps
[06:52] <ajmitch> ah, that is a problem
[06:52] <\sh> but on my pbuilder it works
[06:52] <ajmitch> sure
[06:52] <\sh> well..I'm checking again
[06:53] <ajmitch> but libwxgtk2.6-0 must be uninstallable on the build for another reason
[07:17] <lathiat> mm gotta pay $250 in import taxes for my laptop
[07:17] <lathiat> yay
[07:17] <Burgundavia> lathiat, so did I
[07:17] <lathiat> think i can claim it back tho so that'l be ok
[07:17] <lathiat> just haugh to cough it up
[07:17] <lathiat> *have to
[07:18] <Burgundavia> lathiat, if it is a Canonical laptop, then you should be able to
[07:18] <lathiat> Burgundavia: yeh
[07:18] <jsgotangco> yeah
[07:18] <Burgundavia> lathiat, jsut make sure you get a receit
[07:18] <jsgotangco> but if you have a problem with money
[07:18] <jsgotangco> inform cvd
[07:18] <jsgotangco> i paid 136 GBP on taxes
[07:19] <lathiat> which is
[07:19] <lathiat> $323 au
[07:19] <lathiat> yeh i'll be something similar
[07:19] <jsgotangco> a lot of money on my country
[07:19] <lathiat> find out tomorrow
[07:19] <lathiat> jsgotangco: yeh thats what i get per fortnight heh
[07:19] <jsgotangco> my laptop alone can buy a 2nd hand toyota over here
[07:20] <lathiat> heh
[07:20] <Burgundavia> so could mine
[07:20] <Burgundavia> but you might get a nicer car for the same amount where you two live
[07:20] <lathiat> i could get something ok
[07:21] <jsgotangco> i could get something better or even buy a brand new scooter
[07:22] <jsgotangco> ill got invited to speak in a local university next week so I will be able to show off my Breezy powered M2
[07:22] <jsgotangco> heh
[07:22] <lathiat> cool
[09:31] <siretart> morning
[09:31] <siretart> wh0ps.
[09:31] <ajmitch> hi siretart
[09:32] <siretart> there are quite some packages in universe needing a rebuild for new libcairo.. :)
[09:32] <siretart> huhu ajmitch
[09:32] <siretart> and /me is offline at home, where my gnupg key is
[09:32] <siretart> dsl modem died..
[09:38] <ajmitch> yeah we'll get onto rebuilding them asap :)
[11:19] <kagou> hi
[11:20] <kagou> someone can tell me the exact version of gimp-ufraw in breezy ?
[11:21] <Mithrandir> gimp-ufraw |      0.4-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[11:21] <kagou> 0.4-1 normally, but in debian they have :0.4-1 and : 0.4+cvs20050818-1
[11:22] <kagou> Mithrandir, so we don't know wich cvs version is ufraw
[11:25] <kagou> if i look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/gimp-ufraw and i see that in the diff.gz the last modification is " feb 2005"
[11:27] <kagou> where or who do i contact/ask for this package update ? (sorry for my english i'm french)
[11:31] <siretart> kagou: you would have to ping elmo for that
[11:31] <kagou> thanks siretart
[11:33] <ajmitch> siretart: but we don't just break UVF for no reason :)
[11:33] <ajmitch> and I think elmo likes to hear a sync request from a MOTU (at least)
[11:34] <siretart> thats right
[11:35] <siretart> kagou: before requesting, why would you want the upgrade? you should give a rationale, preferably mentioning important and relevant bugreports and numbers
[11:35] <kagou> ok siretart
[11:39] <kagou> siretart, there is no bugreport for gimp-ufraw, in ubuntu, and two request (wishs, one for upgrade) in debian bugzilla. So it's not a dangerous paquet. But is last version in ubuntu (feb 2005) don't allow many users to use their camera.
[11:39] <kagou> i think that we can raisonably update this paqckage. am i wrong ?
[11:40] <kagou> siretart, or sync
[11:40] <ajmitch> we should ask smurfix..
[11:40] <ajmitch> as he's the debian maintainer :)
[11:42] <kagou> siretart, another thing, i don't understand why this package as not be sync in ubuntu
[11:43] <ajmitch> kagou: because breezy is frozen for new upstream versions
[11:43] <ajmitch> and we have to justify breaking the freeze
[11:45] <ajmitch> I see that the version you are requesting was only uploaded _very_ recently into unstable
[11:49] <kagou> ajmitch : ah ok ...
[11:49] <kagou> Reason to sync :
[11:49] <kagou> 1/ Many users want's that version ;)
[11:49] <kagou> 2/ package not dangerous
[11:51] <kagou> exemple, the CANON REBEL XT (also know as 350d) is a best seller. Many users have bought it, but it can not work in the futur breezy without the sync.
[11:51] <kagou> that's the same problem ith pentax *isdt and last nikon
[11:52] <ajmitch> right
[11:53] <ajmitch> if I see smurfix around, I'll ask his opinion, & then ask for a sync..
[11:53] <kagou> ajmitch, many thx :)
[11:54] <kagou> ajmitch, smurfix is on #ubuntu-devel ;)
[11:54] <ajmitch> yes, I know
[11:54] <kagou> lol
[01:29] <slomo> \sh: i'll have a look at gajim now... :) looks really interesting... are the icq/msn transports on jabberme stable? i'm currently using jabber.ccc.de and switched to gaim because of constantly crashing transports ;)
[01:30] <\sh> slomo: yes...
[01:31] <\sh> slomo: i'm running ejabberd as server and with the pyicq-t/pyaim-t/pymsn-t transports...proxy65 bytestream proxy...the rest is build in...so there's no yahoo transport, cause I didn't find any good, and easy solution for it
[01:31] <\sh> the actual yahoo transport is a bit tricky to build...when i have time, i will build a package for jabberd2/ejabberd
[01:33] <slomo> \sh: so you're running your own jabber server?
[01:34] <\sh> slomo: it's mine yes
[01:34] <\sh> jabberme.net/.org/.de sourcecode.de linux-server.org all available...
[01:35] <slomo> \sh: oh ok... is it public? and are the transports open for users of other servers? ;)
[01:35] <\sh> slomo: normally yes, do a service discover on jabberme.net (this is the server where the transports are running on)
[01:36] <slomo> \sh: fine, i'll test it later :)
[01:37] <\sh> slomo: i just started yesterday with enhancing gajim...to use URGENT window hint :) (thx to Mez for the tip)
[01:38] <slomo> \sh: :) can you include this as a patch in you package? ;) and does it set urgent only on new chats or every time when someone writes something?
[01:39] <slomo> hm, why don't you use dh_python for gajim?
[01:39] <\sh> slomo: i have to decide...first it has to work :)
[01:39] <slomo> \sh: ok... when you need help... i have nothing useful todo atm ;)
[01:40] <\sh> slomo: are u interessted in the ShtoomVoip Goal?
[01:40] <\sh> slomo: i checked latest shtoom (SVN HEAD) and it worked..but the GUI is more then a mess
[01:40] <slomo> \sh: W: gajim: extra-license-file usr/share/gajim/COPYING
[01:40] <siretart> .oO( me remembers, there are open reviews for dnspyhton and gaijm... )
[01:41] <\sh> slomo: and now with gajim hitting the archives in the next days i would like to cretae a client for both...shtoom and jabber to have everything in one client
[01:41] <\sh> slomo: pls write all the issues on REVU..so i can fix it later
[01:41] <slomo> siretart: while you're at it... can you also look at g-p-m and nemerle? ;)
[01:42] <siretart> slomo: sorry, I'm at work. cant do any reviews right now
[01:42] <slomo> siretart: no problem :)
[01:42] <slomo> \sh: ok, i'll do :) ok, you want to implement shtoom into gajim? hm, sounds interesting :)
[01:42] <\sh> slomo: actually I want to have IM and Voice in one client...
[01:43] <kagou> ajmitch, re hi, have you seen smurfix ?
[01:43] <\sh> slomo: because roster handling can be nicely integrated..
[01:43] <\sh> slomo: if i find a way to have a new xml xmpp item for SIP roster items...
[01:45] <slomo> ok... hm... /me looks at dnspython now ;)
[01:46] <\sh> slomo: and be aware...dnspython i will change from install-dep to suggest...cause gajim works as well without it...but doesn't comply with new xmpp 1.0 tls and dns srv lookup
[01:47] <slomo> hm, in that case i would leave it in Depends
[01:47] <Treenaks> Does anyone here know how to do strikethrough text on the wiki?
[01:47] <\sh> slomo: hmm...
[01:48] <\sh> slomo: ok..
[01:50] <\sh> new gnome-panel
[01:50] <\sh> lemme check on my other laptop if it's not crashing anymore
[01:51] <slomo> \sh: for me it isn't crashing anymore... and i updated 1 hour ago ;)
[01:51] <\sh> slomo: ok..then i can update my r200 now :)
[01:52] <siretart> \sh: new gnome-menus. no crashes for me since then (ok, thats 5min ;))
[01:53] <\sh> siretart: i will see in just a minute :)
[01:53] <slomo> uh... gajim has an option to SAVE the gpg passphrase...
[01:54] <\sh> slomo: psi as well
[01:54] <\sh> I have to check how to use gpg-agent
[01:54] <\sh> psi can do both
[01:55] <slomo> would be much better... the way it is now is just freaky ;) people who save their passphrase somewhere have to be shot ;)
[01:56] <slomo> btw... wasn't there a newer xmpp standard for encryption which doesn't use gpg?
[01:56] <\sh> yes
[01:56] <\sh> there r many
[01:56] <\sh> otr as in gaim
[01:56] <\sh> gpg as in psi
[01:56] <\sh> and there will be a new jep
[01:57] <slomo> hm... now only xchat crashed... =)
[01:57] <\sh> hehe
[01:59] <slomo> \sh: does gajim work with ssl for you?
[02:01] <\sh> slomo: yes
[02:02] <\sh> slomo: but
[02:02] <slomo> \sh: yeah i know... tls ;)
[02:02] <siretart> there is also gnome-keyring manager
[02:02] <\sh> slomo: and ssl+tls can't work together
[02:03] <\sh> slomo: and I saw the last time when I used pyxmpp that it has problems to deal with iit
[02:03] <Treenaks> uh.. TLS and SSL are _the same thing_ basically, almost :)
[02:03] <\sh> Treenaks: yes...but if u try to establish via ssl connection a tls handshake?
[02:04] <\sh> and for jabber: tls is going port 5222 as normal without tls...and ssl is using port 5223
[02:04] <\sh> and i think that's the problem
[02:04] <Treenaks> \sh: there are 2 ways to create an SSL XMPP (Jabber) connection
[02:04] <slomo> \sh: when using service discovery i can't find the icq transport on jabberme.org... only conference and irc
[02:04] <\sh> jabberme.net
[02:04] <Treenaks> \sh: 1 is "the old way", which is using a different port, and using SSL
[02:05] <Treenaks> \sh: the other is the "new way", which is using a "STARTTLS" like command
[02:05] <\sh> Treenaks: yes...but pyxmpp tries to handshake tls even over old ssl port
[02:05] <Treenaks> \sh: ooh, braindeadness
[02:05] <\sh> so u have a ssl connection already running...and the handshake tries to do it again :)
[02:05] <\sh> but this i have to debug/
[02:13] <mbreit> hi all
[02:13] <slomo> hi moritz :)
[02:51] <siretart> is it somehow possible to speed up evince? it is so dogslow for me :(
[02:52] <mbreit> siretart: i have that problem as well...
[02:53] <Mithrandir> siretart: get a faster computer. :-P
[02:53] <siretart> :P
[02:56] <siretart> gnarf. xpdf br0ken :(
[03:02] <siretart> wunderfulll. xpdf FTBFS :(
[03:14] <\sh> brb
[03:20] <\sh> re
[03:20] <mbreit> hi \sh
[03:23] <\sh> hmmm...
[03:23] <\sh> the bytestream proxies are hardcoded.
[03:32] <\sh> oh aim don't let me in
[03:43] <Yagisan> G'day All
[03:43] <slomo> hi Yagisan
[03:44] <Yagisan> Looking for 3 Advocates for deng, and deng-iwad-*.installer
[03:44] <Yagisan> :)
[03:45] <slomo> Yagisan: you'll get one this evening ;)
[03:45] <Yagisan> thanks slomo
[03:45] <Yagisan> before anyone asks, yes deng-iwad-*-installer are supposed to be native packages
[03:45] <Yagisan> I wrote them specfically for Debian
[03:45] <Yagisan> and Ubuntu
[03:46] <siretart> Yagisan: mmmh
[03:48] <slomo> siretart: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/t/transcode/2:1.0.0-0.4ubuntu1/
[03:48] <slomo> siretart: why was it only built for amd64?
[03:49] <siretart> slomo: because transcode is in dep-wait, and needs to be moved out by a buildd admin
[03:49] <Yagisan> siretart, re: native packages: it's a shell script, and a dependency for other packages - no use outside of debian and ubuntu
[03:49] <slomo> siretart: oh ok... did you already ping elmo for this?
[03:50] <siretart> Yagisan: I prefer seperating packaging and functional parts of packages. native package merge them, which I don't like
[03:50] <siretart> slomo: no buildd admin was available before, maybe you want to try again ;)
[03:51] <slomo> siretart: nope... i already asked elmo and lamont something else a few hours ago and got no answer ;)
[03:55] <Yagisan> siretart: Give one or two of the deng-iwad-*-installers a once over, if you are unhappy with it, I'll look into seeing how to merge it with deng.
[03:56] <siretart> Yagisan: I cannot review them atm, I'm at work. but if they are really just small shellscripts, I'd consider including them in /usr/share/doc/deng/examples
[04:00] <Yagisan> they are 4k, I need a postinst hook to make sure it is the right iwad and slot it in the right sopt, and a prerm hook to delete on purge. It also has a dependency that my repo uses as a hook to install even more data packages (that won't be sent to revu)
[04:00] <Yagisan> slomo: you might want to hold off advocating deng atm
[04:03] <siretart> i see
[04:05] <Yagisan> the deng-iwad-tnt-installer is a little different, it does everything the others do, and includes a patch wad to correct a known flaw with tnt.wad
[04:08] <siretart> ok, will have to take a closer look before guessing around ;)
[04:09] <Yagisan> no problems
[04:09] <Yagisan> Nafallo: ping
[04:10] <rbelem> hi all. i'm looking for advocates to muse-streamer ;-)
[04:11] <ivoks> hi
[04:12] <rbelem> hi ;-)
[04:12] <Yagisan> G'day
[04:13] <ivoks> lot's of new people :)
[04:17] <sedak> hello all
[04:17] <sedak> i'm also looking for people to advocate rtl8180-kernel
[04:18] <sedak> ... what's a native package ?
[04:18] <Yagisan> rbelem: Is muse-streamer supposed to be a native package ? (Usually not, but there are some exceptions)
[04:19] <Yagisan> sedak: A native package is one without an upstream .orig.tar.gz
[04:19] <sedak> ok
[04:19] <sedak> thanks
[04:20] <Yagisan> sedak: they are only supposed to be for packages created exclusively for debian/ubuntu where debian/ubuntu IS the upstream
[04:21] <rbelem> Yagisan, i just made some changes in name and removed some cvs dirs
[04:21] <Yagisan> theres no .diff.gz
[04:22] <Yagisan> rbelem: you'll be asked to repackage it using the orig.tar.gz
[04:24] <rbelem> Yagisan, replace the by the upstream?
[04:26] <rbelem> Yagisan, i didn't understand very well ;-)
[04:26] <Yagisan> rbelem: when you ran dpkg-buildpackage, it couldn't find your orig.tar.gz file (possibly because the names didn't match)
[04:26] <Yagisan> to fix it I think all you need to do is unpack your package
[04:27] <Yagisan> download the upstream tarball to the directory you have unpacked to
[04:28] <Yagisan> rename upstream tarball to muse-streamer.orig.tar.gz
[04:28] <Yagisan> and when you run dpkg-buildpackage again, you should get the orig.tar.gz, a .diff.gz, and a .dsc
[04:30] <rbelem> Yagisan, i already did it and used dpkg-buildpackge -S
[04:31] <Yagisan> rbelem, you fixed it ?
[04:31] <rbelem> Yagisan, yep ;-)
[04:32] <tseng> hm we got in what look like some nocona boxes
[04:33] <Yagisan> rbelem: then just do a new upload. it built on amd64, and no lintian errors for me
[04:34] <rbelem> Yagisan, oki ;-)
[04:35] <Yagisan> rbelem: sorry I can't advocate, I'm not a motu
[04:37] <rbelem> Yagisan, no problem... you helped a lot ;-)
[04:38] <Yagisan> rbelem: thanks, and your welcome
[04:43] <rbelem> Yagisan, no, i have to thank you ,-)
[04:48] <tseng> siretart: why would we backport security fixes?
[04:48] <tseng> siretart: there is a universe security
[04:50] <ivoks> hi tseng
[04:50] <tseng> hi
[04:50] <ivoks> am...
[04:51] <ivoks> are we aware that acpi-support is broken in many ways? :)
[04:58] <Yagisan> Good night All
[05:58] <kagou> hi
[05:59] <kagou> re ajmitch . have you could seen smurfix for gimp-ufraw ?
[06:16] <siretart> tseng: well, if you want to backport the issues, no problem. Since the backport fixes some other issues as well, it seems to me much more convinient for both maintainers and users
[07:11] <herzi> ogra: can you take a look at https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1841/ please
[07:11] <herzi> i need this fixed to fix a bug in ruby-gnome2 but i cannot build ruby-gnome2 without libgtkglext1-dev
[07:12] <ogra> herzi, i saw it on #ubuntu-bugs already... we are in a big rebuild for the GLU x transition stuff...
[07:12] <ogra> it will take a while
[07:12] <herzi> okay
[07:12] <\sh> herzi: provide a debdiff and put it on the web and provide the link here
[07:13] <\sh> f*ck mozilla is a monster of sh*t
[07:13] <ogra> yes
[07:14] <herzi> wow, that's been fixed within the last 10 hours
[07:14] <\sh> it was all in the queue .. infinity had only to w8
[07:16] <herzi> can someone please close that bug mentioned above?
[07:17] <\sh> herzi: did libgtkglext1 build?
[07:27] <siretart> is Lorenzo Villani here?
[07:28] <siretart> does anyone know him?
[08:06] <Mez> tseng: ping
[08:12] <herve> hello
[08:13] <\sh> hey herve
[08:13] <herve> stephan!
[09:02] <tseng> Mez: hi
[09:04] <Mez> tseng: ruby should be fixed
[09:04] <tseng> Mez: awesome
[09:04] <Mez> interpreters/ruby1.8_1.8.2-9~hoary1: Installed by buildd+rothera [optional:uncompiled] 
[09:31] <sedak> votes are not allowed on bugzilla.ubuntu ?
[09:31] <sedak> that would have been cool ...
[10:36] <Yagisan> G'day All
[10:42] <herve> hello
[10:46] <Yagisan> could anyone with with a powerpc system email me a build log for deng in revu to jamie_jones_au@yahoo.com.au
[10:47] <Yagisan> Thanks
[11:19] <herve> nighta!
[11:32] <ajmitch> morning
[11:34] <\sh> oh damn
[11:34] <\sh> i wanted to go to bed long ago
[11:34] <ajmitch> heh
[11:34] <ajmitch> go sleep then
[11:37] <\sh> will do after this cigarette :)
[11:39] <\sh> hmm...i wonder if I get one of this sponsor journeys
[11:40] <Nafallo> ?
[11:40] <ajmitch> \sh: to montreal?
[11:40] <Mez> tseng: ping
[11:40] <ajmitch> you ought to
[11:40] <tseng> Mez: hi
[11:41] <Mez> tseng: you've been workign on mythtv?
[11:41] <tseng> Mez: yes
[11:41] <Mez> hmm
[11:41] <Mez> I cant get it to compile
[11:41] <Mez> and when I use whats in ubuntu
[11:41] <Mez> I just er..
[11:41] <Mez> get it saying it's been compiled without support for any video output
[11:41] <Mez> hehe
[11:42] <Mez> I think I may be able to fix that
[11:42] <Mez> It's just configure looking in the wrong places for things
[11:42] <Mez> I think
[11:43] <tseng> haha, i am at 75% on var on my main server
[11:43] <tseng> keeping a year worth of data in RRDtool for 200 devices
[11:43] <\sh> Mez: mythtv compiles on i386
[11:43] <Mez> tseng: is it not worth compiling with xrandr support?
[11:44] <ajmitch> here it's /var/cache/apt-proxy
[11:44] <tseng> Mez: beats me
[11:44] <ajmitch> time for lvextend, I think
[11:44] <Mez> \sh :D in a pbuild maybe
[11:44] <tseng> ajmitch: i clean that
[11:44] <tseng> ajmitch: keep 2 revisions
[11:44] <\sh> Mez: it's on the buildds
[11:44] <\sh> and compiled
[11:44] <Mez> \sh :P
[11:44] <tseng> i need to get apt-proxy at work
[11:44] <\sh> but not on amd64/ppc
[11:44] <ajmitch> tseng: I was keeping 5, for some reason
[11:44] <Mez> \sh yeah - but - I was gettgin gcc4errors caus ei have build-essential on my machine
[11:45] <\sh> Mez: u checked the gcc dependency?
[11:45] <Mez> I wanna see the build logss for it :D
[11:45] <Mez> \sh :P
[11:45] <tseng> Mez: thanks for rails
[11:45] <\sh> Mez: the old package defaults to gcc-3.3
[11:46] <Mez> tseng: no probs
[11:46] <\sh> Mez: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/m/mythtv/0.18-2ubuntu2/mythtv_0.18-2ubuntu2_20050820-1441-i386-successful.gz
[11:46] <tseng> !!!!!!
[11:46] <Mez> already viewing
[11:46] <tseng> firefox wont start
[11:46] <tseng> you must be kidding
[11:46] <ajmitch> tseng: yeah, known issue I heard
[11:46] <\sh> hehe..for only under kde not
[11:46] <Mez> hmm
[11:47] <\sh> for me is it not starting on kde i mean
[11:47] <tseng> well F*#$ me
[11:47] <\sh> gnome is just fine
[11:47] <tseng> so much for doing anything
[11:47] <\sh> use mozilla or konqueror or epyphnie.
[11:47] <Mez> ff is working for me
[11:47] <\sh> yack...i sound like seb128 :)
[11:47] <Mez> unless something was updated
[11:48] <Mez> since this morning
[11:50] <\sh> gnight dudes...cu tomorrow
[11:50] <Mez> tseng: have you any idea why mythtv is broked for me?
[11:51] <Mez> tseng: is it broked for everyone?
[11:51] <tseng> no?
[11:51] <tseng> i dont even know what you are getting at
[11:52] <tseng> there are about 10000 ways to break mythtv
[11:52] <Mez> tseng: I cant get it to output any video AT ALL
[11:52] <tseng> i see
[11:52] <tseng> I can
[11:52] <Mez> damn caps
[11:52] <Mez> grr
[11:53] <Mez> It just says "not compiled with any output options2
[11:53] <Mez> or something
[11:53] <Mez> I can get it to show stuff on screen and whatnot
[11:53] <Mez> but nothing else
[11:58] <tseng> Mez: http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/RailsOnUbuntuDebianTestingAndUnstable :)
[11:58] <tseng> i thought id never see the day
[11:59] <tseng> nice work.
[11:59] <ajmitch> update the rest of the page
[11:59] <tseng> what about it?
[11:59] <Mez> hehe :D
[11:59] <ajmitch> unless it's still broken?
[11:59] <tseng> whats broken?
[11:59] <ajmitch> the bit about building ruby yourself on hoary
[11:59] <tseng> oh um
[12:00] <tseng> i changed that to warty i thought
[12:00] <tseng> i see
[12:01] <tseng> holy crap
[12:01] <tseng> these guys wrote a book
[12:01] <Mez> lol
[12:02] <tseng> man i am deleting like mad
[12:03] <Mez> ctrl+a, backspace