=== marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-070-190.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:08] we made #ubuntu-mono because i am tired of msging with people [01:08] and having a ton of open windows [01:09] mbreit is not here :/ [01:09] i thought there was another [01:10] /join #ubuntu-monu [01:10] bah === mbreit [n=mo@p5487799B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:58] what if for one of my package I need a package already in debian ? [01:59] but not in ubuntu [02:00] hub: ask elmo to sync it from debian [02:03] how ? [02:03] is there a precodure > [02:05] hub: just write him a mail and describe why you need this package === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] okay [02:07] checking [02:07] not even sure it is in debian === apokryphos [n=dw@host-87-74-2-73.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] is there any chance of getting musicbrainz in universe with mp3 support? [02:28] it's in MAIN so that amaroK can use it, but it's quasi-useless as the tagging ability can't be used with mp3s === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:40] siretart, ajmitch: what are my chances of getting avahi packages into universe? :) === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-136-227.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] lathiat: depends on how much $$ you're willing to cough up? ;) [03:45] ajmitch: haha [03:46] it's just a lib, or it has apps with it? [03:46] both [03:47] right [03:47] you're upstream? [03:47] yep [03:47] sweet [03:47] ross burton did the debianization tho [03:47] not that that really matters [03:48] so where are the packages? [03:48] i havent got them off ross yet [03:48] later today [03:49] get packages before begging for inclusion ;) === ajmitch might find avahi useful [03:49] haha they're done and i've seen whats in them i just dont have them off him yet :) [03:49] will do :) [03:50] hmm [03:50] rtl8180-kernel package on revu [03:50] dse sell a few of those cards [03:51] yeh [03:52] might be better in the mainline kernel if it's stable [03:52] (for breezy+1, I guess) [03:53] so is avahi 0.1 actually released then? :) [03:53] yes [03:53] it is [03:53] this morning [03:53] http://bur.st/~lathiat/avahi/announcement-0.1 [03:53] http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/Avahi [03:54] will ross be uploading to sid? [03:54] well [03:54] debian doesn have python-gtk2 yet [03:54] and i dont even know if they have dbus 0.3x yet [03:54] so i suspect not for a bit [03:55] you mean no python-gtk2 2.8? [03:55] because pygtk2 has been in sid for a *long* time [03:55] i have no idea i dont use it [03:55] i just heard people say it doesnt have it [03:55] hah [03:56] been there since 2002 [03:56] python2.4-gtk2 ? === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:56] no, python-gtk2 [03:58] does avahi require python2.4? [03:58] I see it does.. why is that? :) [03:58] umm [03:58] actually i think dbus require 2.4 [03:59] right.. [03:59] crackful [03:59] so we implicitly do [03:59] thats just a guess [03:59] im not 100% sure === lathiat looks [03:59] sid has dbus 0.23.4-3 [03:59] yeh we need 0.3x [04:00] which i think is in experimental [04:00] yes, sid is quite conservative :) [04:01] yeh dbus 0.3 wants python 2.4 [04:01] 0.35, err [04:02] and unfortunately avahi-publish doesnt work without cvs of breezys version because of a bug in the bindings (everythign else works tho) [04:02] we're not on the bleeding edge of stuff, honest. :) [04:02] it'll make backports fun ;) [04:02] i may work on getting dbus 0.23 support === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-136-227.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [04:15] ajmitch, making backports fun is the goal of any good packager, no? [04:16] Burgundavia: of course [04:16] that's why you need to build-dep on all the latest goodies [04:17] Burgundavia: btw, welcome to the old age of 23 ;) [04:17] ajmitch, thank you, 22 was a pretty good year === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:28] hi robitaille [04:29] hi ajmitch === ajmitch wishes apt-proxy weren't so broken === desrt [n=desrt@dhcp-0-20-af-d2-7c-3.cpe.mountaincable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-064-180.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMo [n=slomo@p5487E82D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a023.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-136-227.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-126.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] morning \sh [06:45] <\sh> hey ajmitch [06:45] <\sh> hmmm [06:45] \sh: I was kind & added some comments to your package on revu :) [06:46] and I'll look at njam once I'm at home [06:47] <\sh> ajmitch: njam i have to fix [06:50] \sh: the laptop channel can be irritating sometimes :) [06:51] <\sh> grmpf why is amule with libgtkwx2.6 building and not on the buildds === Brunellus [n=luigi@ip68-100-19-156.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:51] <\sh> ajmitch: nono... [06:51] hi there. is there going to be an updated dcraw in breezy? [06:51] \sh: url for build log? === ajmitch looks.. [06:52] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/amule/2.0.3-1ubuntu3/amule_2.0.3-1ubuntu3_20050821-1818-i386-failed.gz [06:52] <\sh> because of build-deps [06:52] ah, that is a problem [06:52] <\sh> but on my pbuilder it works [06:52] sure [06:52] <\sh> well..I'm checking again [06:53] but libwxgtk2.6-0 must be uninstallable on the build for another reason === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-136-227.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Brunellus [n=luigi@ip68-100-19-156.dc.dc.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:17] mm gotta pay $250 in import taxes for my laptop [07:17] yay [07:17] lathiat, so did I [07:17] think i can claim it back tho so that'l be ok [07:17] just haugh to cough it up [07:17] *have to [07:18] lathiat, if it is a Canonical laptop, then you should be able to [07:18] Burgundavia: yeh [07:18] yeah [07:18] lathiat, jsut make sure you get a receit [07:18] but if you have a problem with money [07:18] inform cvd [07:18] i paid 136 GBP on taxes [07:19] which is [07:19] $323 au [07:19] yeh i'll be something similar [07:19] a lot of money on my country [07:19] find out tomorrow [07:19] jsgotangco: yeh thats what i get per fortnight heh [07:19] my laptop alone can buy a 2nd hand toyota over here [07:20] heh [07:20] so could mine [07:20] but you might get a nicer car for the same amount where you two live [07:20] i could get something ok [07:21] i could get something better or even buy a brand new scooter [07:22] ill got invited to speak in a local university next week so I will be able to show off my Breezy powered M2 [07:22] heh [07:22] cool === popey [n=popey@dsl-80-46-101-238.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@220-245-224-46-nsw.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a023.otenet.gr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [n=ghe@193.146.157.2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [n=ghe@193.146.157.2] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bur[n] er [n=norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-104-165.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089E40D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] morning [09:31] wh0ps. [09:31] hi siretart [09:32] there are quite some packages in universe needing a rebuild for new libcairo.. :) [09:32] huhu ajmitch [09:32] and /me is offline at home, where my gnupg key is [09:32] dsl modem died.. === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:38] yeah we'll get onto rebuilding them asap :) === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host21-221.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089DF14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DF14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === eruin [n=eruin@76.84-48-29.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@D-128-208-151-97.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax9-010.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.4.196.68] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:19] hi [11:20] someone can tell me the exact version of gimp-ufraw in breezy ? [11:21] gimp-ufraw | 0.4-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages [11:21] 0.4-1 normally, but in debian they have :0.4-1 and : 0.4+cvs20050818-1 [11:22] Mithrandir, so we don't know wich cvs version is ufraw [11:25] if i look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/graphics/gimp-ufraw and i see that in the diff.gz the last modification is " feb 2005" === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] where or who do i contact/ask for this package update ? (sorry for my english i'm french) === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:31] kagou: you would have to ping elmo for that [11:31] thanks siretart [11:33] siretart: but we don't just break UVF for no reason :) [11:33] and I think elmo likes to hear a sync request from a MOTU (at least) [11:34] thats right [11:35] kagou: before requesting, why would you want the upgrade? you should give a rationale, preferably mentioning important and relevant bugreports and numbers [11:35] ok siretart [11:39] siretart, there is no bugreport for gimp-ufraw, in ubuntu, and two request (wishs, one for upgrade) in debian bugzilla. So it's not a dangerous paquet. But is last version in ubuntu (feb 2005) don't allow many users to use their camera. [11:39] i think that we can raisonably update this paqckage. am i wrong ? [11:40] siretart, or sync [11:40] we should ask smurfix.. [11:40] as he's the debian maintainer :) [11:42] siretart, another thing, i don't understand why this package as not be sync in ubuntu [11:43] kagou: because breezy is frozen for new upstream versions [11:43] and we have to justify breaking the freeze [11:45] I see that the version you are requesting was only uploaded _very_ recently into unstable [11:49] ajmitch : ah ok ... [11:49] Reason to sync : [11:49] 1/ Many users want's that version ;) [11:49] 2/ package not dangerous [11:51] exemple, the CANON REBEL XT (also know as 350d) is a best seller. Many users have bought it, but it can not work in the futur breezy without the sync. [11:51] that's the same problem ith pentax *isdt and last nikon === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] right [11:53] if I see smurfix around, I'll ask his opinion, & then ask for a sync.. [11:53] ajmitch, many thx :) === ajmitch has to have similar reasoning for f-spot :) [11:54] ajmitch, smurfix is on #ubuntu-devel ;) [11:54] yes, I know [11:54] lol === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === popey [n=popey@dsl-80-46-101-238.access.as9105.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [n=m00@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@p5487E82D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-232.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] \sh: i'll have a look at gajim now... :) looks really interesting... are the icq/msn transports on jabberme stable? i'm currently using jabber.ccc.de and switched to gaim because of constantly crashing transports ;) [01:30] <\sh> slomo: yes... [01:31] <\sh> slomo: i'm running ejabberd as server and with the pyicq-t/pyaim-t/pymsn-t transports...proxy65 bytestream proxy...the rest is build in...so there's no yahoo transport, cause I didn't find any good, and easy solution for it [01:31] <\sh> the actual yahoo transport is a bit tricky to build...when i have time, i will build a package for jabberd2/ejabberd [01:33] \sh: so you're running your own jabber server? [01:34] <\sh> slomo: it's mine yes [01:34] <\sh> jabberme.net/.org/.de sourcecode.de linux-server.org all available... [01:35] \sh: oh ok... is it public? and are the transports open for users of other servers? ;) [01:35] <\sh> slomo: normally yes, do a service discover on jabberme.net (this is the server where the transports are running on) [01:36] \sh: fine, i'll test it later :) [01:37] <\sh> slomo: i just started yesterday with enhancing gajim...to use URGENT window hint :) (thx to Mez for the tip) [01:38] \sh: :) can you include this as a patch in you package? ;) and does it set urgent only on new chats or every time when someone writes something? [01:39] hm, why don't you use dh_python for gajim? [01:39] <\sh> slomo: i have to decide...first it has to work :) [01:39] \sh: ok... when you need help... i have nothing useful todo atm ;) [01:40] <\sh> slomo: are u interessted in the ShtoomVoip Goal? [01:40] <\sh> slomo: i checked latest shtoom (SVN HEAD) and it worked..but the GUI is more then a mess [01:40] \sh: W: gajim: extra-license-file usr/share/gajim/COPYING [01:40] .oO( me remembers, there are open reviews for dnspyhton and gaijm... ) [01:41] <\sh> slomo: and now with gajim hitting the archives in the next days i would like to cretae a client for both...shtoom and jabber to have everything in one client [01:41] <\sh> slomo: pls write all the issues on REVU..so i can fix it later [01:41] siretart: while you're at it... can you also look at g-p-m and nemerle? ;) [01:42] slomo: sorry, I'm at work. cant do any reviews right now [01:42] siretart: no problem :) [01:42] \sh: ok, i'll do :) ok, you want to implement shtoom into gajim? hm, sounds interesting :) [01:42] <\sh> slomo: actually I want to have IM and Voice in one client... [01:43] ajmitch, re hi, have you seen smurfix ? [01:43] <\sh> slomo: because roster handling can be nicely integrated.. === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] <\sh> slomo: if i find a way to have a new xml xmpp item for SIP roster items... [01:45] ok... hm... /me looks at dnspython now ;) [01:46] <\sh> slomo: and be aware...dnspython i will change from install-dep to suggest...cause gajim works as well without it...but doesn't comply with new xmpp 1.0 tls and dns srv lookup [01:47] hm, in that case i would leave it in Depends [01:47] Does anyone here know how to do strikethrough text on the wiki? [01:47] <\sh> slomo: hmm... [01:48] <\sh> slomo: ok.. [01:50] <\sh> new gnome-panel [01:50] <\sh> lemme check on my other laptop if it's not crashing anymore [01:51] \sh: for me it isn't crashing anymore... and i updated 1 hour ago ;) [01:51] <\sh> slomo: ok..then i can update my r200 now :) === herzi [n=herzi@c208135.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] \sh: new gnome-menus. no crashes for me since then (ok, thats 5min ;)) [01:53] <\sh> siretart: i will see in just a minute :) [01:53] uh... gajim has an option to SAVE the gpg passphrase... [01:54] <\sh> slomo: psi as well [01:54] <\sh> I have to check how to use gpg-agent [01:54] <\sh> psi can do both [01:55] would be much better... the way it is now is just freaky ;) people who save their passphrase somewhere have to be shot ;) [01:56] btw... wasn't there a newer xmpp standard for encryption which doesn't use gpg? [01:56] <\sh> yes [01:56] <\sh> there r many [01:56] <\sh> otr as in gaim [01:56] <\sh> gpg as in psi [01:56] <\sh> and there will be a new jep === slomo [n=slomo@p5487E82D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] hm... now only xchat crashed... =) [01:57] <\sh> hehe [01:59] \sh: does gajim work with ssl for you? === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] <\sh> slomo: yes [02:02] <\sh> slomo: but [02:02] \sh: yeah i know... tls ;) [02:02] there is also gnome-keyring manager [02:02] <\sh> slomo: and ssl+tls can't work together [02:03] <\sh> slomo: and I saw the last time when I used pyxmpp that it has problems to deal with iit [02:03] uh.. TLS and SSL are _the same thing_ basically, almost :) [02:03] <\sh> Treenaks: yes...but if u try to establish via ssl connection a tls handshake? [02:04] <\sh> and for jabber: tls is going port 5222 as normal without tls...and ssl is using port 5223 [02:04] <\sh> and i think that's the problem [02:04] \sh: there are 2 ways to create an SSL XMPP (Jabber) connection [02:04] \sh: when using service discovery i can't find the icq transport on jabberme.org... only conference and irc [02:04] <\sh> jabberme.net [02:04] \sh: 1 is "the old way", which is using a different port, and using SSL [02:05] \sh: the other is the "new way", which is using a "STARTTLS" like command [02:05] <\sh> Treenaks: yes...but pyxmpp tries to handshake tls even over old ssl port [02:05] \sh: ooh, braindeadness [02:05] <\sh> so u have a ssl connection already running...and the handshake tries to do it again :) === kagou [n=kagou@84.4.196.68] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] <\sh> but this i have to debug/ === mbreit [n=mo@p5487513F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:13] hi all [02:13] hi moritz :) === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a018.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] is it somehow possible to speed up evince? it is so dogslow for me :( [02:52] siretart: i have that problem as well... [02:53] siretart: get a faster computer. :-P [02:53] :P [02:56] gnarf. xpdf br0ken :( [03:02] wunderfulll. xpdf FTBFS :( [03:14] <\sh> brb === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rbelem [n=rodrigo@201008165249.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] <\sh> re [03:20] hi \sh === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] <\sh> hmmm... [03:23] <\sh> the bytestream proxies are hardcoded. [03:32] <\sh> oh aim don't let me in === slomo [n=slomo@p5487E82D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-37-206.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] G'day All [03:43] hi Yagisan === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] Looking for 3 Advocates for deng, and deng-iwad-*.installer [03:44] :) [03:45] Yagisan: you'll get one this evening ;) [03:45] thanks slomo [03:45] before anyone asks, yes deng-iwad-*-installer are supposed to be native packages [03:45] I wrote them specfically for Debian [03:45] and Ubuntu [03:46] Yagisan: mmmh === siretart doesn't like native packages at all [03:48] siretart: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/t/transcode/2:1.0.0-0.4ubuntu1/ [03:48] siretart: why was it only built for amd64? [03:49] slomo: because transcode is in dep-wait, and needs to be moved out by a buildd admin [03:49] siretart, re: native packages: it's a shell script, and a dependency for other packages - no use outside of debian and ubuntu [03:49] siretart: oh ok... did you already ping elmo for this? [03:50] Yagisan: I prefer seperating packaging and functional parts of packages. native package merge them, which I don't like [03:50] slomo: no buildd admin was available before, maybe you want to try again ;) [03:51] siretart: nope... i already asked elmo and lamont something else a few hours ago and got no answer ;) === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable211.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] siretart: Give one or two of the deng-iwad-*-installers a once over, if you are unhappy with it, I'll look into seeing how to merge it with deng. [03:56] Yagisan: I cannot review them atm, I'm at work. but if they are really just small shellscripts, I'd consider including them in /usr/share/doc/deng/examples === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] they are 4k, I need a postinst hook to make sure it is the right iwad and slot it in the right sopt, and a prerm hook to delete on purge. It also has a dependency that my repo uses as a hook to install even more data packages (that won't be sent to revu) [04:00] slomo: you might want to hold off advocating deng atm [04:03] i see [04:05] the deng-iwad-tnt-installer is a little different, it does everything the others do, and includes a patch wad to correct a known flaw with tnt.wad [04:08] ok, will have to take a closer look before guessing around ;) === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] no problems [04:09] Nafallo: ping [04:10] hi all. i'm looking for advocates to muse-streamer ;-) === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1425.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:11] hi [04:12] hi ;-) [04:12] G'day [04:13] lot's of new people :) [04:17] hello all [04:17] i'm also looking for people to advocate rtl8180-kernel [04:18] ... what's a native package ? [04:18] rbelem: Is muse-streamer supposed to be a native package ? (Usually not, but there are some exceptions) === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] sedak: A native package is one without an upstream .orig.tar.gz [04:19] ok [04:19] thanks [04:20] sedak: they are only supposed to be for packages created exclusively for debian/ubuntu where debian/ubuntu IS the upstream [04:21] Yagisan, i just made some changes in name and removed some cvs dirs [04:21] theres no .diff.gz [04:22] rbelem: you'll be asked to repackage it using the orig.tar.gz [04:24] Yagisan, replace the by the upstream? [04:26] Yagisan, i didn't understand very well ;-) [04:26] rbelem: when you ran dpkg-buildpackage, it couldn't find your orig.tar.gz file (possibly because the names didn't match) [04:26] to fix it I think all you need to do is unpack your package [04:27] download the upstream tarball to the directory you have unpacked to [04:28] rename upstream tarball to muse-streamer.orig.tar.gz [04:28] and when you run dpkg-buildpackage again, you should get the orig.tar.gz, a .diff.gz, and a .dsc [04:30] Yagisan, i already did it and used dpkg-buildpackge -S [04:31] rbelem, you fixed it ? [04:31] Yagisan, yep ;-) [04:32] hm we got in what look like some nocona boxes === tseng gets ubuntu amd64 [04:33] rbelem: then just do a new upload. it built on amd64, and no lintian errors for me [04:34] Yagisan, oki ;-) [04:35] rbelem: sorry I can't advocate, I'm not a motu [04:37] Yagisan, no problem... you helped a lot ;-) === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] rbelem: thanks, and your welcome [04:43] Yagisan, no, i have to thank you ,-) [04:48] siretart: why would we backport security fixes? [04:48] siretart: there is a universe security === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-232.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] hi tseng [04:50] hi [04:50] am... [04:51] are we aware that acpi-support is broken in many ways? :) [04:58] Good night All === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200217143214.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mpathy [n=markus@p54A18636.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mpathy [n=markus@p54A18636.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089DF14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a018.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.5.150.68] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] hi === ogra [n=ogra@p5089DF14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:59] re ajmitch . have you could seen smurfix for gimp-ufraw ? === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] tseng: well, if you want to backport the issues, no problem. Since the backport fixes some other issues as well, it seems to me much more convinient for both maintainers and users === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-104-165.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1344.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=Natja@132.196-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] ogra: can you take a look at https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1841/ please [07:11] i need this fixed to fix a bug in ruby-gnome2 but i cannot build ruby-gnome2 without libgtkglext1-dev [07:12] herzi, i saw it on #ubuntu-bugs already... we are in a big rebuild for the GLU x transition stuff... [07:12] it will take a while [07:12] okay [07:12] <\sh> herzi: provide a debdiff and put it on the web and provide the link here [07:13] <\sh> f*ck mozilla is a monster of sh*t [07:13] yes [07:14] wow, that's been fixed within the last 10 hours [07:14] <\sh> it was all in the queue .. infinity had only to w8 [07:16] can someone please close that bug mentioned above? === herzi doesn't have permissions [07:17] <\sh> herzi: did libgtkglext1 build? === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1BE9.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] is Lorenzo Villani here? [07:28] does anyone know him? === Natja [n=Natja@132.196-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === diamond [n=diamond@host-194-46-226-151.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] tseng: ping === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200216155050.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [n=hcauweli@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] hello [08:13] <\sh> hey herve [08:13] stephan! === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1216.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StrikeForce [n=marc@dsl-202-72-163-232.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:02] Mez: hi === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] tseng: ruby should be fixed [09:04] Mez: awesome === dredg [n=niall@212.17.56.65] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] interpreters/ruby1.8_1.8.2-9~hoary1: Installed by buildd+rothera [optional:uncompiled] === JRee [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRee [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:31] votes are not allowed on bugzilla.ubuntu ? [09:31] that would have been cool ... === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === infinito [n=infinito@75.Red-80-59-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@15.238.5.97] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rtcm [n=jman@217.129.142.72] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [n=hcauweli@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089EF2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin [n=user@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-37-206.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] G'day All [10:42] hello [10:46] could anyone with with a powerpc system email me a build log for deng in revu to jamie_jones_au@yahoo.com.au [10:47] Thanks === mgalvin_away [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:19] nighta! === herve [n=hcauweli@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:32] morning [11:34] <\sh> oh damn [11:34] <\sh> i wanted to go to bed long ago [11:34] heh [11:34] go sleep then [11:37] <\sh> will do after this cigarette :) === herzi [n=herzi@c208135.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:39] <\sh> hmm...i wonder if I get one of this sponsor journeys [11:40] ? [11:40] \sh: to montreal? [11:40] tseng: ping [11:40] you ought to [11:40] Mez: hi [11:41] tseng: you've been workign on mythtv? [11:41] Mez: yes [11:41] hmm [11:41] I cant get it to compile [11:41] and when I use whats in ubuntu [11:41] I just er.. [11:41] get it saying it's been compiled without support for any video output [11:41] hehe [11:42] I think I may be able to fix that [11:42] It's just configure looking in the wrong places for things [11:42] I think === ajmitch keeps filling up /var lately :( [11:43] haha, i am at 75% on var on my main server [11:43] keeping a year worth of data in RRDtool for 200 devices [11:43] <\sh> Mez: mythtv compiles on i386 [11:43] tseng: is it not worth compiling with xrandr support? [11:44] here it's /var/cache/apt-proxy [11:44] Mez: beats me [11:44] time for lvextend, I think [11:44] \sh :D in a pbuild maybe [11:44] ajmitch: i clean that [11:44] ajmitch: keep 2 revisions [11:44] <\sh> Mez: it's on the buildds [11:44] <\sh> and compiled [11:44] \sh :P [11:44] i need to get apt-proxy at work [11:44] <\sh> but not on amd64/ppc [11:44] tseng: I was keeping 5, for some reason [11:44] \sh yeah - but - I was gettgin gcc4errors caus ei have build-essential on my machine [11:45] <\sh> Mez: u checked the gcc dependency? [11:45] I wanna see the build logss for it :D [11:45] \sh :P [11:45] Mez: thanks for rails [11:45] <\sh> Mez: the old package defaults to gcc-3.3 [11:46] tseng: no probs [11:46] <\sh> Mez: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/m/mythtv/0.18-2ubuntu2/mythtv_0.18-2ubuntu2_20050820-1441-i386-successful.gz [11:46] !!!!!! [11:46] already viewing [11:46] firefox wont start [11:46] you must be kidding [11:46] tseng: yeah, known issue I heard [11:46] <\sh> hehe..for only under kde not [11:46] hmm [11:47] <\sh> for me is it not starting on kde i mean [11:47] well F*#$ me [11:47] <\sh> gnome is just fine [11:47] so much for doing anything === ajmitch has been using galeon anyway [11:47] <\sh> use mozilla or konqueror or epyphnie. [11:47] ff is working for me [11:47] <\sh> yack...i sound like seb128 :) [11:47] unless something was updated [11:48] since this morning === Mez just wants to play PSOne on his comp [11:50] <\sh> gnight dudes...cu tomorrow [11:50] tseng: have you any idea why mythtv is broked for me? [11:51] tseng: is it broked for everyone? [11:51] no? [11:51] i dont even know what you are getting at [11:52] there are about 10000 ways to break mythtv [11:52] tseng: I cant get it to output any video AT ALL [11:52] i see [11:52] I can [11:52] damn caps [11:52] grr [11:53] It just says "not compiled with any output options2 [11:53] or something [11:53] I can get it to show stuff on screen and whatnot [11:53] but nothing else [11:58] Mez: http://wiki.rubyonrails.com/rails/show/RailsOnUbuntuDebianTestingAndUnstable :) === tseng pimps backports [11:58] i thought id never see the day [11:59] nice work. [11:59] update the rest of the page [11:59] what about it? [11:59] hehe :D [11:59] unless it's still broken? === Mez pimps tseng [11:59] whats broken? [11:59] the bit about building ruby yourself on hoary [11:59] oh um [12:00] i changed that to warty i thought [12:00] i see [12:01] holy crap [12:01] these guys wrote a book [12:01] lol [12:02] man i am deleting like mad [12:03] ctrl+a, backspace