[12:09] bradb: done [12:09] elmo: thanks [12:38] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] Fix for bug 1821: [wishlist] activity section in Malone bug should contains user names (patch-2286: christian.reis@canonical.com) [12:43] "Rosetta is a web-based translation portal", is that necessary to use that Y2K buzzword? [12:46] I dunno about you, but I was conditioned to read "portal" as "content-free site", "hopeless startup" or "websquatting"... [12:47] ddaa: s/portal/tool/ ? [12:48] in that case I'm happy to agree :-) [12:50] also, why display "Basque", "Occitan" and "Breton"... these are utterly obscure language. That positions Rosetta as a hopeless startup tool to translate software into obscure languages... === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [01:06] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [rs=kiko] rename IBugTask.context and IBugTask.contextname to .target and .targetname, respectively (patch-2287: brad.bollenbach@canonical.com) [01:19] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/cscvs--devel--1.0: [r=BjornT] more backlogged native CVS protocol work (patch-103: david.allouche@canonical.com) === Keybuk backs away from ddaa as the hoards of Basque Separatists head for him with bombs [01:35] bradb-away: pong [01:35] Keybuk: ola [01:37] lifeless: heyhey [01:39] so sprint dates [01:39] we need to figure this out so I can buy a ticket [01:40] ddaa: ping-for-this [01:40] have you talked to Mark recently? [01:40] nope [01:40] he was talking about having a much slimmed-down sprint with very little overlap [01:40] other than his email [01:40] so rather than trying to get everyone together, just get two people at a time for each bit [01:41] uhm, we are talking about two separate sprints [01:41] one ddaa, mark, me [01:41] one you, gustavo, me [01:41] ok [01:41] AIUI [01:41] when's gustavo starting and in merkia? [01:41] each one one week long [01:42] so I'd just like to not emulate a 8000mile long yoyo :) [01:43] well it was one month from the second sprint week, which means next week IIRC [01:43] poing [01:44] Well, actually, I can hardly come at any other time than Mon. 4 Sep. to Fri. 9 Sep. [01:45] I suspect the issue is, is mark needed for the sprint with gustavo. Keybuk - whats your recollection of his request ? [01:45] Mark leaves the week after and is (according to cvd) not available the week before. [01:46] right [01:46] I don't recall [01:46] I think you are the one he really wants to overlap on [01:46] I don't even know what the topic for the sprint is [01:47] (actually he leaves on 14, so he might be able to be there on 12 and 13 [01:47] he definitely said he wants to do lots of launchpaddy stuff with ddaa [01:47] and he said that on the phone on thursday too [01:47] yeah... that seems to have grown over the past months from a nagging itch to almost an obsession... [01:48] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=spiv] remove JobSourcerer, fix job loading, clarify an abort() trick (patch-2288: david.allouche@canonical.com) [01:49] do I want to know? [01:49] so lets say - I will be there ~ 4th to 17th. [01:50] first week ddaa & mark [01:50] second week keybuk and niemeyer [01:50] NP with me. [01:50] ok with me [01:50] BTW I was thinking of requesting accomodation at the Claverley. lifeless, what do you think? [01:50] scott - can you confirm with neimeyer that he will have started and is able to travel for that week. [01:50] ddaa: fine for you, but its beds kill me, I can't stay there. [01:50] ddaa: err, as opposed to what? [01:51] elmo: as opposed to K&K [01:51] boggle, why? [01:51] cause the Claverley breakfasts are the best. [01:52] also, it's closer. [01:52] oook [01:53] Keybuk: so - you'll confirm that ? I'm asking you because you are in the same vague tz ;) [01:53] BTW, who is that gustavo guy? [01:54] neimeyer [01:54] lifeless: yeah, if I see him online [01:54] Hu, what does he do? === ddaa is apparently supposed to know, googles [01:54] Keybuk: do you have his email address? I'll email him then .. latency on this hurts ticketing [01:54] something at niemeyer.net isn't it? [01:55] ddaa: hes joining canonical, on the launchpad team, he'll be working in parallel with scott on the hct/packaging foo [01:55] gustavo@ [01:55] yep [01:57] is he on the launchpad team? [01:57] I thought he was distro team? [01:58] you are distro [01:58] he'll be starting as launchpad [01:58] but not launchpad webapp [01:58] hct + + + [01:59] maybe he'd like to do some importd too? [01:59] ddaa: hes being hired for packaging related work [02:00] well, importd is largely about HCT, isn't it? okay... okay... I'll just keep on trying with spiv... [02:00] ok, I consider this planned pending his reply [02:01] lifeless: BTW something you should know. [02:01] ..? [02:02] work on the nested log parsing is making good progress, but it includes a massive pep8 cleanup of Parser.py and the related tests were moved to a separate module. [02:02] so it would be a merging problem if you have to work on that code before that's merged. [02:02] see, this is what I call scope creep [02:03] they are both great things to do [02:03] but neither was needed to do what you are doing, and it adds this problem. [02:03] lifeless: I beg to disagree. This code needed cleaning up, and I do not want to work on code which offends me. [02:03] That's part of "refactor code to make your change easy, then make your change". === asgeirf [n=asgeirf@nat-pool-brisbane.redhat.com] has joined #launchpad [02:04] ddaa: in which case, you should be able to get a merge request for that stuff alone ;0 [02:05] lifeless: yup, I'll be trying to in the next days. [02:05] Pure PEP-8 fixes would be pretty easy to review :) [02:06] Some other belated changes might also have to be merged before, but I do plan to make two submissions. [02:07] spiv: that also include a big refactoring to cut a class that was counting too many hundred lines into two classes. Not as easy review if you want to be thorough. [02:08] overall, I'm quite happy to be working that way, and I would hate to change it === Lovechild [n=dnielsen@love-sources/Lovechild] has joined #launchpad [02:11] Well, another way to look at it is three smaller reviews are probably easier than one massive one. [02:12] Yep... just after saying that I realised that three would be better. [02:12] Heh. [02:12] Thanks for volunteering :) === Lovechild [n=dnielsen@0x50c71cc7.adsl-fixed.tele.dk] has joined #launchpad === b3nw [n=m@242-122.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === b3nw [n=m@242-122.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #launchpad [] === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad === sladen_ [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #launchpad === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@p54A3BF6A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@203-217-37-199.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === camilotelles [n=Camilo@200165215194.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #launchpad === lamont-away is now known as lamont [05:02] lifeless: Production configs tagged, but not mirrored to rocketfuel [05:02] mirrored [05:02] 1.27 and 1.28 and 1.29 [05:05] kiko-zzz: I have a community patch for pqm. it seems strange for this to be published in my public pqm branch, but not be in rocketfuel. [05:06] I'd ping steve but hes not visible ;0 [05:15] lifeless: Code syncing with upstream shouldn't need review, and in this case pqm is upstream for us (?) [05:15] lifeless: I know my Z3 changes that I make upstream and get merged into Rocketfuels version don't go through review [05:15] stub: its kinda weird, because I do the upstream maintenance myself. [05:16] (except for upstream community review) [05:16] so if upstream is happy, but upstream is a canonical employee .. [05:16] Same with pytz - just me as the sole developer, but buggered if I'm going to go through the review process for my personal project ;) [05:16] rotfl [05:17] so, I think we should discuss and set a fair policy [05:17] i.e. code written by us for canonical goes through review. code we wrote in a weekend cause its cool is 'upstream' and doesn't. [05:17] code written by third parties ditto. [05:18] Are two a quorum? [05:18] Any objections say neigh. [05:18] The eyes have it [05:18] ;) [05:27] I'm going to nuke some of these old production configs [05:34] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] More traverse fixes and tests (patch-2289: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) [06:08] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] Add statistician sections to production config files (patch-2290: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@p54A3BF6A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #launchpad [07:42] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/dists--devel--0: [trivial] New production config (patch-107: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) [07:43] lifeless: Can you please do the star-merge stuart.bishop@canonical.com/zope--dupeheaders--3.0 rocketfuel@canonical.com/zope--test--3.0 ? Otherwise I need to roll out Zope from my personal archive. [07:45] sure thing [07:46] commit message ? [07:46] 'Handle duplicate HTTP headers correctly, from upstream' [07:47] Or whatever I said in the email :-P [07:47] 'correctly' ? [07:47] FWVOC ? [07:47] !seen carlos [07:52] lifeless: If you get multiple HTTP headers with the same key, concatenate them into a comma seperated list. [07:52] stub for all HTTP headers ? [07:53] lifeless: Yes. Not totally correct, but good enough and an improvement. [07:53] heh, that opens one to smuggling attacks IIRC [07:53] dont you hate having an http nazi onboard ? [07:54] done anyway [07:54] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/zope--test--3.0: Handle duplicate HTTP headers correctly, from upstream (patch-18: stuart.bishop@canonical.com) [07:54] I'm just following the RFC. If you application doesn't, you could already fake your X-Forwarded-For header. And now your app will raise an exception instead of blindly trusting it ;) [07:54] (for some value of 'following the RFC') [07:55] heh [07:55] got those 1000 MUST's covered yet ;0 [07:56] Stuff that. Just call it a reference implementation of HTTPlite ;) [07:57] Mmm..... lunch === stub buggers off === _Rappy_ [n=hunt-pre@dsl-253-122.monet.no] has joined #launchpad [08:13] there should be a script that once a week greps through the launchpad code looking for FIXMEs or XXXs and summaries them [08:13] that way we can see "XXX delete when foo goes away" and think "aha! foo has gone away" === Seveas [n=seveas@dyn127.roaming.few.vu.nl] has joined #launchpad [08:57] We already have an up-to-the-day checkout of launchpad on the staging server, so all it would take is someone to write the script, stick it in the launchpad utilities directory and then I can cron it. [09:01] Not that I can think of how to parse our rather arbitrarily formatted XXX comments.... [09:03] stub: Any comment block containing "XXX" would be sufficient, probably. === stub kicks pqm in the nads [09:06] pqm not working? [09:07] hung again. I fixed it. [09:08] ah === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [09:08] morning [09:09] stub, hi, around? [09:09] carlos: yes [09:09] stub, how is going the whitespace migration script? [09:09] did it finish already? [09:10] I emailed you the result, didn't I? It has run on staging, and I was waiting on your feedback before running it on production [09:10] oh [09:11] carlos: The 69MB output file is in ~stub/whitespace.out on chinstrap [09:11] I didn't know that you were waiting for my input... [09:11] let me check so you can execute it.... [09:15] stub, looks fine that output [09:15] Those messages are more INFO than WARNING/ERRORS [09:15] stub, could you execute it on production? [09:16] carlos: Ok. I'll kick it off after the production update has been completed. [09:16] stub, perfect [09:16] btw, poimport script is a bit busy atm because we had the new imports from breezy stalled until yesterday [09:16] so perhaps you will need to kill that script to do the production update === dand [n=dand@gw.datagroup.ro] has joined #launchpad [09:18] stub, btw, thanks for all :-) [09:18] oops, don't you just hate it when you send a pqm for the uncommitted changes in your tree [09:29] Keybuk, well, I hate when it happens to me or to any other developer and I have an urgent fix to merge, it delays pqm queue :-) [09:29] yeah, all those annoying tests [09:39] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--production--1.29: Cherrypick patch-2290 into production (patch-1: stuart.bishop@canonical.com, rocketfuel@canonical.com) === carlos -> breakfast [09:58] launchpad going down for a production update... [10:00] Yay for our down for maintenance page, which is still waiting on being switched on [10:01] elmo: ^^^ === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad [10:22] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] don't hide dyson errors, and ignore slashes and dotses when creating cache filenames (once more with feeling^Wpatches) (patch-2291: scott@canonical.com) === Plastic [i=user@PC110-189.oru.se] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [n=scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad [10:51] spiv: I just bounced the librarian (which would have disconnected during the upgrade) [10:51] segfault: ping; I mailed you, but your mail server is rejecting my mail due to blacklists. === ddaa [n=ddaa@ordo.xlii.org] has joined #launchpad [10:56] I'm trying to help out with Rosetta, currently translating the Ubuntu Breezy package "kbd" to Swedish. But I'm not an official translator, and it seems that whatever I type in is not saved. I added 10 new translations, but when I go back to the page, all the translation boxed are empty again, and the statistics still say "Todo: 217", as it did before I added anything [10:57] Where are my suggestions stored? Can only the designated translators see them? [10:58] Plastic, if the field lets you store more than one line [10:58] Plastic, it's a UI bug, we are not showing them as suggestions (yet) [10:59] OK, thanks [10:59] Plastic, if you want that your translations are applied directly, join that team [10:59] Plastic, anyway, the translation is not lost, is stored, don't worry [11:07] carlos: I have some imports to do. [11:08] is there a list of requests? [11:16] jordi, there are some pending, yes [11:16] jordi, what do you think if we create a wiki page to manage those requests? [11:16] so people add their requests there [11:16] and we can add the status [11:16] and track the list easily? [11:17] carlos: that would be nice. I really need a list. [11:17] Some come by private mail to me directly. [11:17] Others to rosetta@ [11:17] others to rosetta-users@ [11:17] jordi, me too [11:17] jordi, wiki.ubuntu.com/RosettaImportQueue ? [11:17] sure [11:17] hmm [11:17] RosettaPendingImports? === Seveas [n=seveas@dyn127.roaming.few.vu.nl] has joined #launchpad [11:18] jordi, ok [11:18] as you wish :-) [11:18] heh [11:18] jordi, add an entry to the faq about that [11:18] and I will add a brief note about that page to the 1.0 announcement [11:19] jordi, with a warning that any request sent by email and not added to that wiki page would be lost [11:19] no+d [11:21] carlos: hmm [11:21] how do they give us the files via wiki? [11:21] jordi, links to the files [11:22] jordi, I never get files by email, I always ask for links [11:22] nod [11:22] ok [11:24] wiki changed [11:31] carlos: can you have a look at RosettaPendingImports? [11:31] please tell me what's missing [11:32] I should go back to LliureX stuff :) [11:32] jordi, request date [11:32] right [11:32] and Importer [11:32] so we know if you, daf or me are working on it already [11:32] nod [11:33] jordi, and perhaps a status column [11:33] that would be 'Pending' and 'Done' [11:33] and leave the Done request a month or so there [11:33] so people can know latest imports [11:34] jordi, also, if people wants to update translation data, they don't need to use that page, they can do it directly [11:34] jordi, that page is only for new .pot uploads [11:36] have a look now [11:36] ok, I will clarify that. [11:37] carlos: can you try to bounce my mail to Carlos Eduardo from an ip that isn't blocked? [11:37] jordi, the second table has an extra 'Done' column, other than that, it's perfect, thanks [11:37] sure [11:38] it should be "Done date" [11:39] ok [11:42] carlos: The whitespace script should take 24 hours to run if it doesn't die due to deadlocks or other transactional issues. So far it died once at 3% complete ;-/ [11:43] stub, perhaps the poimport script is the one that is causing problems there... [11:43] (if it is a problem, I can make it retry on these issues. Which is the correct behavior) === Plastic [i=user@PC110-189.oru.se] has left #launchpad [] [11:44] ok. If it dies again, I'll disable those scripts and retry. [11:44] stub, well, the changes will be done anyway, it just will take some extra time and next run should be faster, so I don't think you should change anything, let's see how it goes [11:44] ok [11:44] Yup === BjornT -> lunch === asgeirf [n=asgeirf@203-173-59-20.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === Belutz [n=Belutz@202.155.151.20] has joined #launchpad [01:31] hello carlos , is ir changed something with Georgian Translators Group? (can we add a new programms to translate?) [01:33] I'm in "Launchpad distros ubuntu breezy i386" in Launchpad , but it's still impossible to add a new breezy package to translate. [01:40] Alinux, you will never be able to add a new package [01:40] Alinux, they appear there automatically [01:40] Alinux, which one are you missing? [01:41] for example gdm [01:41] gnomemeeting [01:41] and the main gnome-s stuff. [01:42] Alinux, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gdm/+pots/gdm [01:42] Alinux, the translations are associated with the sources not the binaries [01:43] and how about the Georgian plural forms... [01:43] everything ok? so we can proceed translating? [01:44] I'm preparing the sql patch [01:44] it should be applied in next hour or so [01:45] stub, around? I will need an SQL query executed on production to do that.... [01:45] :) [01:45] ok [01:45] I'm here who waits :D [01:48] "Rosetta cant handle the plural items in this file, because it doesnt yet know how plural forms work for Georgian." - still this warning. [01:52] Alinux, Also, the Georgian word for "Georgian" is: [01:52] The English approximation is: Kartuli [01:52] Alinux, does it means that 'Georgian' is an invalid English name? [01:57] carlos I'm seeing , yes it's Georgian, and - is Georgia [01:58] no, everything is right. [01:58] ok [01:58] Alinux, I sent the request to our DB master, If he's still around, it should be applied today === cprov [n=cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:00] carlos, :) and I'm here who waits :) sorry I'm buddging bugging you :) [02:03] morning guys === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:11] carlos: ping [02:11] mpt, pong [02:12] carlos: "I've ,,proposed'' myself to Polish-Translator group on Launchpad, but still haven't recived a word from them. Is there any process for acceptation?" [02:12] How should I reply? [02:12] (IIRC you're not subscribed to ubuntu-devel, otherwise you could reply) [02:13] mpt, I am [02:13] but I have a couple of thousen of emails pending to read.... [02:13] heh [02:14] mpt, if there is and admin for that team, is their responability, if there is no admin for that team, is daf's or my fault, depends on who created the team [02:14] I will review all pending queues after lunch [02:15] ok, let's see how good Launchpad's team search is ... [02:16] carlos: The admin for the team is someone called "Carlos Perello Marin" [02:16] and there are no other admins [02:16] mpt, is my fault then ;-) [02:19] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-pl if you want to approve Emil right now (he's top of the list) [02:25] bradb-away: hmm, I'll let you answer David's malone bits because you're probably the one who knows what he's looking for. [02:25] regarding voices, I guess Rosetta is not useful at all [02:26] jordi, ? [02:26] oh, to translate voices? [02:26] we will have a way to do that in the future, we need it to translate documentation, but will not be in hte near future [02:28] mpt, done [02:29] mpt, when you reply to that email, please, ask them to decide who will be the coordinator so I can give admin powers [02:31] jordi: audio files? [02:33] carlos: ok [02:39] "Note: this is a team, which is in turn a member of the following teams. That means that all the members of THIS team are also members in the teams below." === mpt puts that on his list of Strings To Clean Up === dand would just like to point out that I'd be really nice if the breezy translations in rosetta would be grouped by section [02:50] mpt: it's a mail about GNUtelephony using Launchpad [02:51] dand, there is a RosettaWishlist page at wiki.ubutu.com [02:52] dand, please, add it there [02:53] carlos: thanks, i was just lookin' at malone, wondering if it's appropiate for feature requests [02:53] dand, either would work [02:59] Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial] Added more plural forms to our sample data (patch-2292: carlos.perello@canonical.com) [03:01] jordi: Are you able to do things like creating products and uploading PO/POT files? Is that part of your job, or are you just the "Please use Rosetta" guy? :-) [03:06] mpt, that's exactly what jordi does === Lovechild [n=dnielsen@0x50c71cc7.adsl-fixed.tele.dk] has joined #launchpad [03:07] mpt, well, 'Please use Rosetta' and upload po/POT files [03:07] both :-) [03:08] ah, great === carlos -> lunch [03:08] so Jordi can reply to that person wanting to translate Gnome in Rosetta [03:10] mpt, yes [03:15] Alinux, plural forms applied [03:16] Alinux, enjoy [03:21] uuid = StringCol(notNull=True, default=uuidgen(), alternateID=True) [03:21] spot the mistake in this line of code ... [03:21] contant default [03:21] except, not quite constant... [03:22] yeah, the default only changes if you reload that module (which won't happen in normal circumstances) [03:23] Yes it does happen in normal circumstances. [03:23] Every time to load the module in a new interpreter. === Surak [n=ubuntu@201.32.136.14] has joined #launchpad === Robinho_Peixoto [n=ubuntu@201.32.136.14] has joined #launchpad === lamont is now known as lamont-away === pablof [n=ubuntu@201.32.136.14] has joined #launchpad [03:47] how to create a project on launchpad ? [03:48] Robinho_Peixoto: First tell me how you tried to do it, then I'll tell you the way to do it, then I'll see if I can fix Launchpad to work how you expected [03:49] Wait, I see the problem [03:49] :) [03:49] There should be a "Register a new project" link on https://launchpad.net/projects but there isn't [03:49] mpt - it seems there's no link to register it :-) [03:49] Robinho_Peixoto: https://launchpad.net/projects/+new [03:50] Surak: There is, but only if you search for it first :-( [03:50] mpt, thanks [03:51] Rock, Malone menus are looking better now [03:51] Good job, bradb-away === dilago [n=ubuntu@201.32.136.14] has joined #launchpad [04:00] mpt, the idea is that people should search to see if a project exists === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [04:07] hi [04:07] mpt: which Malone menus? === BjornT [i=10183@82-135-221-189.ip.takas.lt] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo_ [i=nafallo@c-459571d5.07-44-73746f50.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo === Nafallo is now known as Nafallo_away === Nafallo_away is now known as Nafallo === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [04:24] bradb, have you seen https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1787? I guess it's easy to fix, but am not sure === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [04:25] salgado: right, simple enough to fix. I'll try and get around to it soonish. === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [04:29] bradb, salgado: I can fix that [04:29] cool, thanks [04:33] jordi, froud has some work for you :-) [04:33] oh, he's not in this channel... [04:34] who is he? [04:34] jordi, he's who asked the OpenICDL import last week [04:36] carlos, tnx, now I try to view list of source packages... that can be translated [04:36] thanks kiko, bradb. :) [04:37] kiko, I talked with stuart, he was waiting for me to confirm the production run of whitespace-fix script [04:37] kiko, it should be running atm [04:37] carlos, ARGH [04:37] he told me that will take around 24 hours === SanderD [n=sander@ip503c2a37.speed.planet.nl] has joined #launchpad === Virtuall [n=virtuall@blackbox.enio.lv] has joined #launchpad [04:39] carslos https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources here I can't find any interested packages why? [04:39] I'm logged in regulary. [04:39] Alinux, because the published information for Ubuntu is not yet imported [04:39] kiko, any news about that? [04:40] Alinux, if you know the sourcepackage you can put it by hand or just go to +translations [04:40] so should I wait? [04:40] ah [04:41] put it by hand? [04:41] Alinux, no, there is a link there [04:41] carlos? [04:41] kiko, gina run [04:42] Alinux, look at the upper part of the web, there are some links called "Overview" "Bugs" "Translations" and "Calendar" [04:42] Alinux, select "Translations" [04:42] carlos, ... ok... [04:43] bradb: The facets for /product/whatever/+bugs [04:43] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+lang/ka - here I am... but I can#t add some new packages [04:44] Alinux, Oh, I see what you mean [04:44] yes... [04:44] Alinux, https://launchpad.net/rosetta [04:44] :) [04:44] ok... [04:44] just a moment.. [04:44] Alinux, use that other link until the publish information is added to launchpad [04:45] mpt: ah right. I didn't do that (by intention), to be honest. Speaking of which, I wanted to land some menu code yesterday (a few pages at a time), but I wasn't able to get a hold of you. What menu options should there be on the Malone homepage? [04:45] Hi. Is Launchpad a sort of SourceForge, or is it only meant for Ubuntu-related programs? [04:45] SanderD, more the former than the latter [04:45] mpt: Right now, I've got "Bugs" and "About Malone" [04:45] anyone with datetime-fu available ? I'm returning UTC_NOW - buildstart (it is UtcDateTimeCol) from a property and not able use the formatter in template, any clue ? [04:46] kiko, so I could host my (open source) project at Launchpad too? [04:46] SanderD, is for any open/free software project [04:46] ok [04:46] What means "HCT" in launchpad? [04:46] jordi: i saw your mail, it was rejected temp. because of sender checking [04:47] bradb: If there's no context-free bug reporting page, and no context-free bug searching page, then probably none at all. === camilotelles [n=Camilo@200165215194.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #launchpad [04:47] superted, is the tool to manage .deb packages using launchpad integration [04:47] jordi: i'll reply soon, thanks for answering. [04:47] mpt: Will that be acceptable given that Rosetta has "Translations" and "About Rosetta" tabs? [04:48] (and also "Preferences", of course, but those don't apply to Malone yet) [04:48] brb. [04:49] Surak, the hypothetical changeset tool -- Keybuk is the person to ask about it [04:49] those "Preferences" should be moved into something outside Rosetta [04:49] carlos: Why? [04:49] bradb: I don't know why Rosetta has "About Rosetta" [04:49] Kiko: the string is: Once you have provided us with revision control details for this upstream branch, we can import that branch into The Bazaar, and HCT will be able to work with packages based on it. [04:49] bradb, because I'm sure malone wants also some preferences [04:49] and it makes no sense to have per application preferences pages [04:50] but this does not give a clue about what HCT is :-) [04:50] it makes more sense to have a common place === kiko pokes Keybuk [04:50] I think it could make sense [04:50] bradb: I always said, " Translations", "Upload", "Download", "Admin". daf implemented a context-free download page so that "Download" worked from /rosetta, for example. [04:50] looks like some sort of processor technology ;-) [04:51] carlos: To see a filtered view of the preferences available to you, based on the application. For example, the vast majority of Malone users will not care about Rosetta prefs (and vice versa, perhaps.) [04:52] mpt: Okay, I'll not show any tabs then. [04:52] bradb, then, perhaps soemthing like launchpad.net/preferences/+translations [04:52]