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Shuflao, it's tomorrow today ;)12:00
phantom_Seveas, I have /dev/hda { dma = on }12:00
uthini!gigabyte12:00
ubotuuthini: Are you on ritalin?12:00
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uthinioh cmon ubotu12:00
uthinithrow me a bone here12:00
Thorondorsomehow I mixed up my repositories... when trying to install locales via synaptic i get an error "unresolvable dependencies" - any ideas what i could have done wrong?12:00
uthiniits 12 midnite dammit12:00
Seveasphantom_, that is correct. If it does not work your drivers don't support dma, load a better driver12:01
phantom_Seveas where do I get a driver from? sorry, new to linux12:01
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Ungyso I am a debian user I am goign to install linux on my wifes pc I am afraid she will get confused with debian I heard ubuntu is friendlier is this a true statement?12:02
BurgundaviaUngy, yes12:02
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funkyHatUngy, yes12:02
BurgundaviaUngy, all the power of debian + some desktop polish12:02
bluesceadayes12:02
_Dom_ok should sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade display any progress or is it a background update?12:02
bluesceada:)12:02
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bluesceadajust installed ubuntu today12:02
UngyOh so just an easier to use desktop environment?12:03
tdmgcan anyone here please help me compile ZSNES on my 64bit system?12:03
kevogodUngy: Make sure you follow the Unoffical guide on installing proprietary stuff. She will most likely need them.12:03
bluesceadashe could even install it ;)12:03
phantom_Seveas, what should I look for in google for drivers?12:03
kevogodUngy: This includes Flash, MP3, DVD, and other stuff.12:03
kevogodUngy: http://ubuntuguide.org/12:03
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Ungykevogod ahh I see so I can't just install mplayer?12:04
_Dom_yes its a backgrtound process or yes it should be displaying an update?12:04
avanspronsen!ubuntuguide12:04
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned12:04
kevogodUbuntuguide works great for me!12:04
tdmgcan someone please help me out with my ZSNES troubles? :(12:05
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apokryphoskevogod: but, as it explains, it's often a bad idea to recommend. Making a user blindly put in a few commands will often not help them12:05
avanspronsenkevogod: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation12:05
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bodaciousbdoesn anyone know a version of linux that can run on 32mb of ram?12:07
tdmgDamnSmall might12:07
Ungybodaciousb, with x-windows system or without?12:08
bodaciousbi would prefer with, but if it isnt possible, without12:08
_Dom_ok both my downloads and extensions dialogs are greyed out in firefox12:08
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ms12!breezy12:08
ubotuI heard breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/12:08
_Dom_and the upgrade distro line doesn seem to bo doing anything12:08
apokryphos_Dom_: are you sure you're on warty?12:09
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ms12whose idea to remove the address line from nautilus in breezy are we moving forward or backword :(12:09
_Dom_how do i work it out12:09
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apokryphos_Dom_: cat /etc/issue12:09
Ungybodaciousb, a lot of distros will run on that you just have to get an older archived version12:09
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Ungy!debian12:10
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/12:10
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_Dom_Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog" \n \l12:10
apokryphosms12: not sure what it's like, but I think gonme are eventually moving to try to eliminate conventional filesystem hierachy altogether12:10
bodaciousbUngy, do you think debain could do it?12:10
apokryphos_Dom_: put that upgrade line in, then; make sure you paste it properly. It will update you to hoary12:10
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_Dom_well i put it in12:10
przemek_hi12:10
kevogodUse NetBSD12:11
_Dom_and my command line changed to >12:11
Ungybodaciousb, I know that woody can I ahve run it with 32 but not with X12:11
_Dom_and nothing else has happened12:11
ms12apokryphos this way to go to any directory you have to use the mouse ???12:11
apokryphos_Dom_: you're not entering it correctly, then.12:11
_Dom_!upgrade12:11
ubotuit has been said that upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"12:11
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bodaciousbUngy, ok, ill take a look at that, thanks fo rhte info12:11
rc55I'm installing ubuntu and it's freezing on "Testing Network Repository...", any help appreciated12:11
przemek_has anyone idea how to set DCGUI to get full file list not only size?12:11
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tha_gamemasteranyone have lots of nvidia card experience12:11
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apokryphos_Dom_: that's it. Everything past sudo; make sure you don't have the last "12:11
ms12any way thanx for the answer i will try gnome website12:11
apokryphosms12: yes, but far bigger things are planned, I hear.12:12
TheWalrusHey guys I'm a Linux newb I got a quick question. I have an application that I want to start on boot up and it wants me to place it in the rcX.d folder in init.d but problem is I don't have one. Should I have one? Or do I have to make it first?12:12
apokryphosms12: a "flat" filesystem in theory might be quite good, but it sorta eliminates the point of the UNIX filesystem :/12:12
_Dom_i was putting the first sudo in12:12
_Dom_#sorry12:12
ms12apokryphos do you knwo a thread i can read about that12:12
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zukalkms12, keyboard shortcuts help a lot in gnome spatial. try Ctrl+L12:12
apokryphosms12: no idea I'm afraid; I remember it being raised when I had a debate with a gnomer some time ago. There's probably something on the site12:12
apokryphos_Dom_: you need the sudo there12:13
_Dom_whats the average upgrade tiem12:13
_Dom_well its installing12:13
ms12thanx zukalk and acpokryphos12:13
zukalksure thing12:13
ms12ctrl-l is just fine for now thanx again12:13
apokryphos_Dom_: I take it you're logged in as root or something... nevermind.12:13
kijohi12:13
_Dom_now i just need to work out my foxy problem12:13
kijoim new to ubuntu12:13
kijoand linux in general12:13
_Dom_im not on this computer12:13
kijoso whats possible to do with ubuntu12:14
_Dom_but i am on the one im upgrading12:14
apokryphos_Dom_: reasonably long. It should give you a time-limit till the end of the download; but installing the packs takes quite some time too12:14
avanspronsenwelcome kijo12:14
kijo=)12:14
kijohi12:14
kijo^^12:14
mveersbye12:14
_Dom_im not bothered anyway ill leave it overnight :)12:14
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avanspronsenkijo: what do you want to do?12:14
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kijoall like in windows12:14
kijoencoding files12:15
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kijomovies music12:15
kijoripping music12:15
kijoediting movies12:15
avanspronsenthere is a lot of good stuff here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation12:15
TheWalrusHey guys I'm a Linux newb I got a quick question. I have an application that I want to start on boot up and it wants me to place it in the rcX.d folder in init.d but problem is I don't have one. Should I have one? Or do I have to make it first?12:15
kijoplay games12:15
_Dom_i just want a php editor with an integrated ftp client12:15
_Dom_thats the onlything stopping me moving12:15
_Dom_to linux full time :)12:16
zukalkTheWalrus, do you want it at the system startup, or just when you login?12:16
TheWalrussystem startup12:16
apokryphos_Dom_: Quanta+12:16
zukalkTheWalrus, then you should use bum - Boot-Up Manager12:16
zukalk!bum12:16
ubotuI heard bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html12:16
apokryphos_Dom_: as in, you can of course use it to edit php files online12:16
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TheWalrusthank you12:16
_Dom_how would i add that to the applications menu?12:16
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zukalkTheWalrus, http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html12:17
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dabugashi12:17
zukalkhi12:17
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dabugasi'm trying to get an old gameport joystick hooked up. any ideas?12:17
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apokryphos_Dom_: once you install it it will probably get an entry12:18
avanspronsen_Dom_: you need to install it12:18
_Dom_do i install it through synaptic12:18
apokryphos_Dom_: if not you can use smeg or another menu editor that gnome uses, I guess12:18
apokryphos_Dom_: yes, but you can't do it at the moment. APT is being used; wait till it finishes12:18
uthiniguys, i'm having issues with via sound in unbuntu12:18
uthinii had this issue before with a much older kernel12:19
apokryphos!sound12:19
ubotusound is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/12:19
uthiniand a much older board12:19
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uthiniit involved recompiling with a switch here and there12:19
uthiniwhat do i do this time around?12:19
CookdGryphonSorry, i asked a question then got disconnected, i don't know if anyone answered, how do you set it so that numlock is on by default?12:20
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zukalkCookdGryphon, i remember the ubuntuguide had something about that, but usually it's not recommended to use the ubuntuguide12:20
zukalk!ubuntuguide12:21
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned12:21
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CookdGryphonand for that matter, how can i make the function lock on my keyboard stay on by default12:21
x_Ois it possible to copy a directroy using scp? instead of just files?12:21
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apokryphosp_O: of course; use the recursive option12:22
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MaitreFolasBonsoir12:23
Dr_MelectausDoes anyone know where the themes folder is for fluxbox?12:23
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daggieIf I want to host a webpage from a home computer i need to install apache yes?12:23
zukalkCookdGryphon, http://ubuntuguide.org/#numlockx - it worked for me, but as it is from ubuntuguide, i dunno if it will for you to12:23
Xenguyp_O: the traditional way would be to tar/gzip the directory first, then scp 1 file12:24
nophixdaggie: if you want to use apache yes12:24
Ex-Cyberdaggie: apache is probably the most popular option, but there are other http server packages12:24
Xenguyp_O: but I guess there's more than one way to do it12:25
apokryphosscp -r12:25
apokryphosyou wouldn't tar a folder, cp that, then extract :P12:25
daggieIs there anything in peticular i need to be careful of If I want to run asp.net stuff?12:25
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zevetshi12:27
geneo93wow full house today12:28
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piotr__ubuntu.pl12:30
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austin_isanyone around?12:32
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markrianaustin_is, got a question?12:34
IcemanV9austin_is: hmm .. nobody's home :p12:34
austin_ismarkrian, can the ubuntu live cd resize ntfs partitions?12:34
CookdGryphonwow its gone strangely quiet12:35
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geneo93i need some help with mondo if anyone knows about that12:36
CookdGryphonaustin_is: linux doesn' like resizing ntfs12:36
markrianaustin_is, y'know, I don't know. If it has the package ntfstools installed, then yes12:36
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CookdGryphonhmm linux and ntfs is stioll a bit risky tho int it?12:37
austin_isthat's what i was looking for...when under add/remove packages it shows it12:37
austin_isbut doesn't seem to want to run12:37
austin_isand its not listed under run application12:37
markrianCookdGryphon, ntfsresize is pretty safe - I've used it before12:37
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markrianaustin_is, it's a command-line app12:38
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newmanits best to defrag the ntfs partition first if possible12:38
geneo93start it in terminal12:38
zevetshi, I can't get on quakenet irc12:38
zevetsit says I need identd or need to open up port 11312:38
markrianaustin_is, man ntfsresize12:38
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p1astiki have amd64 proc, just wanted to know which kernal i needed to dl12:38
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palmeroHow do I unmout a volume that has been mounted multiple times?12:38
newmanuse the umount command12:39
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zevetshi, I can't get on quakenet irc12:39
Trackilizerhey guys, i really need your help12:39
vipercan somebody plese help me set up a mp3 player, please, anyone will do12:39
zevetsit says I need identd or need to open up port 11312:39
Trackilizerwhile installing ubuntu i had to choose between 2 eth devices12:39
austin_isk, thanks12:39
viperanyone will do as in any mp3 player12:39
Trackilizeri choose the first 112:39
austin_iswas trying to get the front end to work, but this'll be fine if it works12:40
geneo93sudo umount /dev/hda1 or what ever it is12:40
p1astikviper: xmms12:40
palmeronewman: that's the problem, umount doesn't work because it is currently mounted twice12:40
Trackilizerbut since then the first device had been removed12:40
markrianplastik, there are better options than that :p12:40
viperplastik: can u help me set it up, i had that but it wouldnt play12:40
Trackilizeri cant connect to the internet now becasue ubuntu is still trying to use the device12:40
p1astikviper: dl winamp or itunes then =P12:41
CookdGryphonviper: u may have to install the gstreamer libraries12:41
markrianviper, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs12:41
zevetsit says I need identd or need to open up port 113, so how do I open up port 113?12:41
Trackilizerhow can do i config ubuntu to use the other device suggested in the installation procces12:41
Trackilizer?12:41
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viperthx u three :)12:41
viperill check it out12:41
Trackilizeranyone?12:41
p1astikanyone know which 64 bit amd kernal to dl?12:41
zevetsit says I need identd or need to open up port 113, so how do I open up port 113?12:41
markrianTrackilizer, I assume you're using GNOME in ubuntu12:42
nophixzevets: we heard you the first time12:42
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Trackilizeryes12:42
zevetsoh sorry12:42
nophixzevets: install identd12:42
p1astikzevets: then open the correct port or switch to one that's already open12:42
austin_isgot it, thanks markrian12:42
markrianIf so, go to System -> Administration -> Networking12:42
titaniumis there some way to check the network utilization in ubuntu? i want to see if people are using a lot of bandwidth getting some things off the website i have running12:42
zevetssynaptic didn't find it12:42
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sean_heyas :)12:42
Trackilizertried that didnt really work for me12:42
Trackilizeryou think i can change it there?12:43
Trackilizermaybe i didnt do i right12:43
Trackilizerwell ill try that first thing tommorrow12:43
sean_so im thinking about doing something maybe incrediable stupid, running the hoary hedge hog, just switch my APT sources over 2 breezy, gonna do the apt-get update/dist-upgrade12:43
markriantitanium, install the netspeed applet12:43
nophixzevets: sudo apt-get install oidentd12:43
Trackilizerand see what happens12:43
Trackilizerthanks alot12:43
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sean_stupid idea, or is it reasonably safe?12:43
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TrackilizerIll let you guys know how it went12:44
Trackilizersee ya12:44
Trackilizerand thanks again12:44
zevetscouldn't find oidentd12:44
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markriansean_, depends how handy you are with APT12:44
zevetsim running amd64 version btw12:44
markrianbreezy's still a little broken12:44
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free_mei'm having some problems installing ubuntu:(12:44
sean_hmmm, how much is a little?12:44
p1astikzevets: what's the kernel image for 64 bit procs?12:45
zevetsI have no clue12:45
zevetsI am a linux noob12:45
gorillafree_me, which part?? (I may not be able to help however)12:45
p1astikzevets: do me a favor yeah? just type 'uname -r' in your terminal12:45
markriansean_, sometimes GNOME won't work12:45
free_mei'm trying to install it in an old pc, which isn't able to boot from cdrom12:46
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markrianp1astik, are you running the amd64 version of Ubuntu, or normal x86?12:46
sean_markrian, hmmm.. i run XFCE, think ill run into aditional troubles ontop?12:46
zevets2.6.10-5 amd generic12:46
markriansean_, most likely12:46
free_mei'm trying to find some info on how to do it from DOS but can't really get it12:46
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zevets2.6.10-5-amd64-generic12:47
sean_damn :p i heard breezy was a little bit faster12:47
markriansean_, I'd suggest you wait, unless you're up to the challenge of dealing with breakages12:47
p1astikmarkrian: just the reguarl x86 since i had trouble installing the amd64 version12:47
titaniululzi did apt-get install netspeed; it's done. i can't find it now though12:47
free_mei also can't find any floppies working...12:47
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frank_bhi all. one question: is it normal for (encrypted) DVD movies to play slower than in a normal player in a computer with ubuntu?12:47
markrianp1astik, then just install a k7 kernel12:48
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zevetshow do I install identd12:48
zevetsit does seem to want to work12:48
n1xt3rhi, ever since I switched to ubuntu hoary from debian unstable, some of my mbox files seem to be corrupted. Running file [bad-mbox]  reports "raw G3 data, byte padded".12:48
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sean_well... you know what... challenges are fun :) where do I document any breakages and what not?12:48
p1astikmarkrian: is 64 bit processes enabled? or is it just 32?12:49
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markrianp1astik, I don't understand the question12:49
markrianfree_me, you can install Ubuntu over the network, I believe12:49
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palmeroHi, how do I unmount a volume that has accidentally been mounted twice (at the same mountpoint)?12:50
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sn0nkick it!!12:50
sn0ntwice12:50
leonHi all, what package has /etc/X11/rgb.txt?12:50
free_mei also dont have a crossover cable right now :/12:50
markrianpalmero, man umount12:50
Ben_Phi everyone, are there any minimum sytem requirements for running ubuntu?12:50
p1astikmarkrian: i just want to make sure that im able to fully exploit my processor12:50
larsrohdinhi, i just found a fun thing when looking in the setup for the clock... What is Unix-time?12:50
markrianp1astik, unless you install the full amd64 version of ubuntu, using a 64 bit kernel is useless12:51
sean_Ben_P: I run ubuntu on a 333 celeron w/ 64mb ram12:51
markrianlarsrohdin, unix time is the number of seconds since Jan 1, 197012:51
sean_Gnome is slow, but XFCE is managabke12:51
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p1astiksean_: ROFL12:51
DekaPinkWhat do I need to do to have telnet links from firefox recognized by... Something?12:51
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larsrohdinmarkrian, and that was when unix was born i guess?12:51
sean_anything lower, i might not recommend it :p12:51
jodewhat is a good music player for ubuntu?12:52
markrianfree_me, so you can't install from the CD, and it's not connected to the network?12:52
sean_plastik: yeah man i know, gotta love x-wifes :p12:52
larsrohdinjode, xmms12:52
DekaPinkjode: I use xmms :)12:52
sean_xmms owns :p12:52
p1astiksean_: my friend runs a 333 cyrix with 32ram and runs ubuntu stripped12:52
jodeare there any others?12:52
markriansean_, beep-media-player > xmms12:52
viperi installed those codecs, now xmms wont open12:52
sean_beep wouldnt load my alarm clock plugin :p12:52
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sean_rofl! 32mb ram must just be murder lol12:53
geneo93beep is gtk2 xmms is gtk112:53
p1astikmarkrian: then why would i have problems installing the amd64 edition?12:53
jodeok, thanks12:53
markrianp1astik, I have no idea. What problems are they12:53
p1astiksean_: yeah, its his little firewall12:53
p1astikmarkrian: i have problems installing GRUB12:53
Ben_Psean_: this is going to sound odd but, are those specs suitible for day to day work on ubuntu (word processing, web browsing etc, )?12:53
sean_lol, did he strip out x windows?12:54
sean_Ben_P: With a little bit of tweaking, yeah, I use it for everything12:54
p1astikmarkrian: i have no problem paritioning my HDD with the x86 version12:54
p1astiksean_: yeah, just terminal =D12:54
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geneo93p1astik: check your bios settings12:54
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Ben_Psean_:are minimum system specs likley to rise with every release?12:54
sean_lol! thats funny! man after my own heart, craming the turkey until it bursts12:55
sean_Ben_P: Rumour has it, breezy is faster then hoary, but tis just rumour12:55
Ben_Pk, thankx12:55
p1astikgeneo93: what would i be looking for?12:55
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mwright1Will ubuntu Breezy have FreeNX?  (I heard it has LTSP, so FreeNX would be icing on the cake seeing it's the best remote access solution under the sun (for GUI anyway))12:55
[EasterSunshine] where can an exhaustive list of characters that cannot be in unix filenames, and those that should not be in unix filenameS?12:55
sean_wow, i dont know easter, but if you run into one, share the wealth :p12:56
EasterSunshinei was wondering what happens if i but the pipe char | in the name of a bin12:56
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HrdwrBoBEasterSunshine: it won't work12:56
geneo93p1astik:  togle pnp and 32 or 64 bit mode12:56
EasterSunshineor other shell script operators12:56
HrdwrBoBwhat on earth do you think would happen?12:56
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sean_it just spew out an error12:57
HrdwrBoByou'd have two invalid commands piped to each other12:57
linlini need a bigger lap12:57
rc55Hi - Are there any issues with any repositories at the moment? I can't seem to access any, however web access works fine. Any help greatly appreciated12:57
steven__if a port is filtered is it secure?12:57
linlinso i can hold more than 2 laptops12:57
yodaI'm trying to install something and it cannot find the c compiler12:57
HrdwrBoBsteven__: maybe maybe not12:57
p1astikgeneo93: thanks =D12:57
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HrdwrBoByoda: install what12:57
mumakhi12:57
EasterSunshineyoda: apt-cache search gcc12:57
linlinyoda, sudo apt-get install build-essential ?12:57
yodaa typing tutor program12:57
steven__HrdwrBoB: then how can i make it secure12:57
EasterSunshineyoda: a better solution would be to look for your program in the repos though12:58
HrdwrBoBEasterSunshine: linlin generally people don't need to compile things12:58
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sean_rc55: i just downloaded off of the hoary repo's, was fine12:58
HrdwrBoBsteven__: 'secure' i s a very very relative term12:58
Melectaus_Im wondering if someone could help me... Every time i try to play a video file, such as a DVD or a .mpg etc etc, the audio doesnt work. Audio works when i play music files such as .ogg and .mp3 but any video file with sound just wont work.12:58
lJloleli want my terminal to be white text on black!12:58
Melectaus_Any suggestions?12:58
HrdwrBoByoda: what program12:58
linlini compile lots of things12:58
viperYAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:58
viperi got xine and it worked12:58
viper:)12:58
viperim happy12:58
HrdwrBoBlinlin: you may well do, but almost all software you need is in the repositories12:58
Melectaus_Please :(12:58
rc55sean_: thanks for your feedback, any ideas on my prob?12:58
linlinvlc owns12:58
vipermy music12:58
yodawhat is the repo12:58
viperthx all12:58
viperbye12:58
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HrdwrBoB!repositories12:59
ubotuI guess repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:59
sean_check your /etc/apt/sources.list file and make sure its ok12:59
Melectaus_Could someone please help12:59
linlini think only thing that i need that isnt in reos is called "kftpgrabber"12:59
rc55I've got http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release12:59
Melectaus_This is doing my tits in :(12:59
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Nexinarus!transcode12:59
ubotuWish i knew, Nexinarus12:59
HrdwrBoB Melectaus_ in totem?12:59
geneo93repo man is someone whos going to take your car01:00
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Melectaus_HrdwrBoB, in any media player im afraid01:00
HrdwrBoBNexinarus: transcode is only in hoary extras01:00
sean_rc55: mines different...01:00
Nexinarusjeez bob2, do you ever go to sleep?01:00
EasterSunshinelinlin: kftpgrabber is a kde's graphical ftp client?01:00
yodaI'm trying to install Ktouch typing tutor01:00
mumakI'm having difficulty making Caps Lock an extra Ctrl key on my powerbook01:00
mumakIs this even possible>>01:00
Melectaus_HrdwrBoB, any suggestions?01:00
linlinit doesnt come with kde i dont think01:00
Nexinarusthnx HrdwrBoB01:00
linlini always have to install it seperate from source01:00
yodawhat do I do after untaring the file, apt-get install?01:00
HrdwrBoBMelectaus_: do you have the liba52-0.7.4 and gstreamer0.8-a52dec packages?01:00
sean_is what i had rc5501:00
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linlinbest client out there for FXP, SSL/TLS, using distributed ftp servers01:01
EasterSunshineyoda: what came out of the tab? a source tree?01:01
Melectaus_HrdwrBoB, im not sure. i think so, how do i check>01:01
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HrdwrBoByoda: you don't need the file at all01:01
uthinii want to install the new nvidia drivers, but in order to do that i need to kill my x window01:01
EasterSunshines/tab/tar01:01
uthinihow do u do that?01:01
HrdwrBoByoda: just apt-get install ktouch01:01
HrdwrBoByoda: or use synaptic01:01
HrdwrBoB!synaptic01:01
ubotuI guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:01
linlinsudo apt-get install ktouch01:01
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neirasIs there a decent gnome2 mp3 tag editor that does batch renaming?01:01
Nexinarus!repositories01:01
ubotumethinks repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:01
Coyctecmgreat newiest ati drivers can handle xcompmgr alot better than old ones01:01
EasterSunshine!info ktouch01:01
ubotuktouch: (touch typing tutor for KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 975 kB, Installed size: 2068 kB01:01
Coyctecmbut not usable still :/01:01
uthini!nvidia01:02
lJlolelnvermind, i got it01:02
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia01:02
HrdwrBoBNexinarus: ? bob2 seems to be asleep01:02
Melectaus_HrdwrBoB,  yes i have both installed01:02
linlin!info kftpgrabber01:02
Nexinarusi love ubotu ;)01:02
p1astikNexinarus: ubotu?01:02
Nexinarusthe bot01:02
EasterSunshinekftpgrabber isn't in the repos, i doubt ubotu will know about it01:02
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linlin/whois ubotu01:02
Nexinarusin this channel01:02
Melectaus_so any ideas HrdwrBoB01:02
neiras!id301:02
ubotuNot a clue, neiras01:02
neirassigh01:02
yodaI just did apt-get and it worked, but I don't understand what happened. Did it get a version offline?01:02
geneo93to bad he cant do catchup01:03
HrdwrBoByoda: it connected to the repository01:03
EasterSunshineyoda: you got a version from the repos servers01:03
HrdwrBoByoda: downloaded the package01:03
HrdwrBoByoda: and installed it01:03
HrdwrBoBthere are literally thousands of packages01:03
yodahow do I know what's available?01:03
HrdwrBoBuse synaptic01:03
Melectaus_HrdwrBoB, you got any ideas please?01:03
HrdwrBoB!synaptic01:03
Melectaus_:(01:03
ubotuwell, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto01:03
EasterSunshineHrdwrBoB: including the unofficial, and the debian's, i think there are tens of thousands01:03
lJlolelholy.. transparent background in a terminal is hte coolest thing i've ever seen01:03
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HrdwrBoBMelectaus_: if other audio works but not DVD, it's odd01:03
HrdwrBoBEasterSunshine: debian repos are bad[tm]  but yes01:04
Dr_MelectausHrdwrBoB, its any video file01:04
sean_<-- wishes he wasnt on an antique so he could have transperancy too01:04
Dr_Melectausnot just dvd01:04
HrdwrBoBDr_Melectaus: oh, odd01:04
EasterSunshinelJlolel: wait till you see your desktop background as a shell...01:04
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HrdwrBoBDr_Melectaus: try running 'killall esd'01:04
lJlolelEasterSunshine, whoooa how do i do that ?!?01:04
HrdwrBoBand then playing them01:04
p1astikgamemaster: j0!01:04
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tha_gamemasterp1astik: j0!01:04
HrdwrBoBEasterSunshine: I prefer ~ as nautilus desktop01:05
EasterSunshinelJlolel: i think you need eterm and a certain wm...01:05
p1astikGO GM01:05
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Dr_MelectausHrdwrBoB, after that thewhatn01:05
tha_gamemasterGO P1ASTIK!01:05
sean_so is any one here a member?01:05
lJlolellol cool, now that i've set up for a week, i'm getting into the coool parts of linux01:05
tha_gamemastercan anyone help me with my broken ubuntu?01:05
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tagI just installed ubuntu on a dell inspiron 110001:05
derFlohi01:05
HrdwrBoBsean_: a member of what01:05
sean_whats broken :p01:05
tagthe video is in a totally crappy mode01:06
sean_HrdwrBoB,  the ubuntu members comitee01:06
tagit's 640 x 480 but smooshed into the middle of the screen at 1024 dpi01:06
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derFlohow can I prevent ubuntu to set up interfaces during bootup? or just to background dhcp?01:06
tagwhat do I need to change01:06
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tag?01:06
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lJloleli can't get onto freenode from a java irc client applet online01:07
derFloi commented out eth0 and eth1 from /etc/network/interfaces without any change.01:07
sean_derflo - download BUM - boot up manager01:07
HrdwrBoBderFlo: edit /etc/network/interfaces and comment out 'auto eth0'01:07
derFlook, thx01:07
HrdwrBoB!resolution01:07
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:07
derFloHrdwrBoB: already tried that01:07
HrdwrBoBtag: there01:07
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Nexinarushmm when i add transcode i get: "transcode: Depends: libgcc1 (>=1:4.0.0-7) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed"01:08
lJlolelBUM isn't in the apt repository01:09
sean_any one have any insight on speed? wondering about Opera Vs. Firefox, my bet says opera loads faster, anyone know for sure?01:09
sean_no, bum isnt, its in a .deb   for dpkg01:09
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sean_ill find the link to the site, one sec01:09
derFlois evolutions offline-mode  crap or did I do something wrong? have imap and a 56k modem connection. Every action is very very slow01:10
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HrdwrBoBNexinarus: yeah it's slightly broken, depends on backports01:10
uthinierm guys, the ubuntu nvidia driver is WAY out of date01:10
NexinarusHrdwrBoB: synaptic doesnt let me use the backports :S01:11
uthinihow do i update it?01:11
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sean_chugglalugga lug lol... feel that horespower lol.. http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html  - BUM01:11
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Mez...?01:11
tha_gamemasteruthini: yes i'd also like to know01:11
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HrdwrBoBsean_: the time spent worrying about it is so much more than the time spent loading your browser :)01:11
uthiniits not upgradeable in synaptic01:11
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HrdwrBoBNexinarus: ?01:11
lJloleli installed grub when i set up ubuntu, but now i can't boot up my windows xp drive01:11
uthiniand i can't kill this xwindow01:11
Meztranscode from where?01:11
lJlolelit says fielsystem unrecognized or somehting01:11
=== uthini already has the most recent version
Nexinarusit says fix dependencies01:11
Mezgives a dep on backports01:11
sean_HrdwrBoB,  LOL I WISH! man, firefox is damn slow01:11
free_mehow many floppies do i need if i can't boot from cd?01:11
Sammi_What is the terminal command to open XMMS and have it run a cd?01:12
sean_and i even tweaked it in about:config01:12
Mezfree_me - technically - one01:12
dalamar12001:12
HrdwrBoBsean_: what system?01:12
EasterSunshineuthini if xkill doesn't do it, kill it by pid01:12
HrdwrBoBfree_me: none.01:12
Mezfree_me, or 0 if you already have linux installe01:12
HrdwrBoBfree_me: ubuntu doesn't support floppies01:12
tagok01:12
sean_333mhz celeron, 54mb ram, 8mb Matrox Millenium II grphx, and XFCE desktop01:12
sean_54 lol 6401:12
HrdwrBoBif you need to use a floppy you're doing something wrong01:12
HrdwrBoBsean_: ah, so ancient01:12
uthiniEasterSunshine, how do i get the name of the display that x is running on?01:12
uthiniand how do i restart it ? start x?01:13
free_mei have the install cd, but i'm unable to boot from it01:13
HrdwrBoButhini: echo $DISPLAY01:13
sean_yeah, anitquing in style :p even play counter-strike on this bad boy :p01:13
dalamarlol01:13
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HrdwrBoButhini: restart with /etc/init.d/gdm restart01:13
MezHrdwrBoB, actually ubuntu does support floppies - but only for net installs :D It's capable of every install methode debian is01:13
free_mevery old computer.. :p01:13
lJlolelsean_, counter-strike under wine?01:13
sean_no, i keep a 1gb windows 98SE partition for it :p had it going under cedega, lost 10fps vs. native01:13
lJlolelsean_, nice01:14
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sean_lol, extreme is what i call it lol :"p01:14
Mezsean_, I GAIN fps under cedega01:14
geneo93free_me:  how much ram01:14
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sean_really? Feck i wish, my grphx card is just crap,01:14
free_meso i can't launch the istaller with floppies?01:14
free_me32mb :$01:14
HrdwrBoBMez: yeah, I just think that any time you need a floppy, you're doing something wrong01:14
uthiniEasterSunshine, i've got the display name01:14
HrdwrBoBeither you're trying to install on a computer that's little more than landfill01:14
uthinibut if u didn't notice xkill only kills a window01:15
uthinii tried all01:15
EasterSunshineMez: cedega gains fps from native windows?01:15
HrdwrBoBor you aren't doing something right01:15
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uthinibut that aborts01:15
geneo93free_me:  dont bother01:15
EasterSunshineMez: what processor and graphics card?01:15
lJlolelEasterSunshine, sometimes01:15
EasterSunshineuthini: xkill kills the creator of the window...01:15
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free_me:(01:15
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sean_yeah, mez, you've got a pimp setup then, i lose vs. native on everything... not like i use windows #!#@ any more :p01:15
dalamarI don't see how any program can run faster under a non-native system01:16
derFloas far as i can see, bum doesn't background dhcp, or?01:16
amonkeyis there a way to login to gdm via ssh01:16
EasterSunshineuthini: or does it...?01:16
kevogod!breezy01:16
ubotuhmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/01:16
uthiniEasterSunshine, it aborts01:16
EasterSunshinedalamar: windows is horribly bloated01:16
EasterSunshineuthini: sry i don't know then01:16
dalamarEasterSunshine, still, I've never heard of such a thing01:17
uthiniu mean no1 knows hows to close an ubuntu window & boot down to shell?01:17
HrdwrBoButhini: press ctrl-alt-f101:17
uthiniHrdwrBoB, that still leaves my xwindow open01:17
lJloleluthini, ctrl-alt-backspace kills X01:18
geneo93uthini:  try sudo init301:18
uthiniand as long as an xserver is running nvidia won't install01:18
HrdwrBoBgeneo93: no01:18
sean_No it doesnt, it kills  reloads X, <ctrl-alt-backspace>01:18
dalamarquestion, do all of you using cedega subscribe to it or are you using the ancient free one?01:18
sean_sorry kills + reloads01:18
lJlolelsean_, that's what i've been told but it doesn't reload for me :(?01:18
sean_reloads fine for me, time to go bug hunting :p01:18
kevogodSame here01:18
kevogod(does not reload)01:19
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lJlolelbut it's cool, i just start x01:19
dalamarreloads automagically here01:19
tag(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1600x1200" (no mode of this name)01:19
tagand on down the list01:19
geneo93HrdwrBoB:  i use telinit3 all the time to install nvidia drivers01:19
tagthat page did not really help me01:19
kevogodI have to use startx01:19
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dalamarI just use synaptic to install nvidia dirvers and dont have to deal with all this not running X horsecrap ;)01:20
NexinarusHrdwrBoB: when synaptic says "the old version will be used" it also says fix the problem and does not allow me to continue01:20
uthinigimma a command to list all running processes01:20
uthinithat way i can kill x01:20
dalamarps aux01:20
derFloi can't find out wich ubuntu-stuff overwrites /etc/network/interfaces. this file doesn't seem to be processed at boot?01:20
uthinidalamar, i'm subscribed to cedega01:21
lJloleluthini, ps aux | grep x ? or something like that right?01:21
geneo93dalamar:  thats why i have 7676 drivers and you dont01:21
dalamargeneo93, it works, and thats all I care01:21
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geneo93ahh but the gain in fps is worth the upgrade dalamar01:22
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dalamarits currently being used for gl screensavers and gl snes9x, wh00. Believe me I understand you but my geforce is so old it likely would not matter ;)01:22
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HrdwrBoByeah01:23
geneo93dalamar:  get nvclock and crank it up01:23
dalamarnow if i had a new nvidia card and was running cedega or something I'd totally use the fancy drivers01:23
DekaPinkWhat do I have to install to be able to use the dos2linux command? Or is there some equal command I can use? :301:24
HrdwrBoBdalamar: I have a newer card and do run cedega01:24
Nexinarusanyone here successfully installed transcode?01:24
HrdwrBoBand I cbf with new drivers01:24
lJlolelwhy do you use cedega instaed of wine (doesn't cedega cost $$)01:24
dalamarcedega is game optimized01:24
reikiis there a way to find out if a package exists in the repositories without actually downloading or installing it?01:24
dalamarand fancy01:24
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Kyralreiki, apt-cache search01:25
geneo93HrdwrBoB:  did you notice the gain with newer drivers01:25
darkheartreiki Use the search function in synaptic =)01:25
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uthinilJlolel, are u on ubuntu?01:25
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HrdwrBoBgeneo93: no, because I'm not running them01:25
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othernoobdoes k3b support 8x burning on dvds?01:25
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dalamarothernoob, yes01:26
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geneo93oh ic01:26
othernoobdalamar: mmh, weird.. it shows 6x as top speed here..01:26
speelhey whats the current gaim version of hoary?01:26
dalamarothernoob, mine posts 8x fine, dunno01:26
geneo93funny my dual layer dvd wont burn cd at no less than 24x01:27
othernoobdalamar: does yours burn 8x too?01:27
othernoobdalamar: because if i choose "auto" it chooses 8x...but never goes higher than 4-501:27
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CookedGryphonHow do I add things to the gnome menu in ubuntu?01:27
dalamarothernoob, you may not have dma running on the drive?01:27
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dalamarmine fluctuates but will hit 801:28
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reikiCookedGryphon:  smeg01:28
othernoobdalamar: naa, dma was the first thing i enabled after i installed kubuntu ;)01:28
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dalamarCookedGryphon, install smeg01:28
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derFlohmmm01:28
dalamarothernoob, dunno then01:28
othernoobdalamar: which version are you using?01:29
dalamar1 sec01:29
derFloEditing in run level S is not allowed!  Playing with rcS.d symlinks is an administration activity requiring deep knowledge of the runlevel system.01:29
d2dchatwhat is the app for ruby editing?01:29
dalamarothernoob, 0.11.2401:29
derFlotried to deactivate networking in bum01:29
othernoobdalamar: that's the ubuntu package isn't it?01:30
dalamarothernoob, yessir01:30
darkheartd2dchat Ruby editing? You just need a text editor.01:30
d2dchatdarkheart, yes but is there one for ruby that includes code highlighting ?01:30
reikid2dchat: : I think Bluefish will highlight ruby... lemme check01:31
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darkheartd2dchat You can usually add those highlighting options to popular text editors. I'm pretty sure vi works.01:31
d2dchative yet to get used to vi hehe01:31
tagOther than this stupid video problem this all went pretty smoothly01:31
reikid2d: ok I was mistaken... I don't see Ruby listed01:32
d2dchatreiki, lol, its ok:)01:32
othernoobdalamar: i use 0.12.2..but that shouldn't be the reason :/01:32
dalamarif anything you'd think it was better01:32
othernoobindeed01:33
dalamaranyways, k3b is just a frontend for the command line tools so if anything I would think it would be a limitation of them01:33
lJlolelreiki, synaptic?01:33
lJlolelreiki, i personally prefer apt-cache search01:33
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dalamaryou CLI kids, sheesh ;)01:34
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dalamarI like pictures lol01:34
othernoobdalamar: yes of course01:34
reikilJlolel: I think I need to uncomment some repositories to find things. Wish there was an easier way to do that :)01:34
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geneo93it could be the media also cheap stuff dont work well01:34
dalamarreiki, real easy in synaptic heh01:34
othernoobgeneo93: naa, the media is fine. i tried different ones, as well as them on xp01:35
reikidalamar: last time I did it in Synaptic I somehow "updated" my system by mistake. :)  I just want to look and then only "activaate" teh extra repo I need and then unactivate it01:36
dalamarah i see01:36
derFloi don't know why, but my ubuntu doesn't even closely behave like a debian01:37
derFlowhat drives me crasy01:37
apokryphosderFlo: hard to suggest that considering it uses the same package management system01:37
apokryphosderFlo: had to have an argument with someone not too long ago who maintained that Ubuntu itself wasn't a fork01:37
bluesceadawhat do you mean with that ?01:37
apokryphosit syncs back with Debian every 6 months01:37
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Nexinarusey what video player uses gstreamer? xine?01:38
codecainetotem01:38
dalamarNexinarus, totem01:38
sean_debian = good... ubuntu = great... so whys it matter? :P01:38
derFlomy installation is totally unstable, sl-modem didn't work (it does now), /etc/hotplug/blacklist listed snd-intel8x0m01:38
derFlothe slamr-modules don't work01:38
derFlofirefox always crashes01:39
derFlo...01:39
bluesceadao.O01:39
derFloon my installation01:39
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sean_derflo.. my system hasnt crashed once scince install..01:39
bluesceadai just installed ubuntu .. had no single problem except the isa nic which needed manual module loading01:39
derFlomaybe the problem is sitting in front of the screen, but i didn't have as many prob's with debian01:39
dalamaruse good qulity brand name hardware lol, I haven't had one problem yet and everything worked out of the box ;)01:39
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j_smithhello all01:40
bluesceadaderFlo: just an offtopic question .. are you german ? your nickname remembers me of a person in my little village ..01:40
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derFloyes01:41
laseritehey does anybody remember that tool to delete the last n lines in a file??01:41
laseriteit's in coreutils i think01:41
bluesceadaderFlo: is it keltern weiler01:41
j_smithcould simebody tell me how can I add mp3 support to my ubuntu system?01:41
derFloand ubuntu feels a little bit like win..... (lots of sounds)01:41
HrdwrBoB!mp301:41
ubotumethinks mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support01:41
derFlowas?01:41
dalamarsounds are cool!01:41
bluesceadahmm ... wait .. now i know what does also not work ^^ .... the sound01:42
j_smiththanks ubotu01:42
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Nexinarusso noone has successfully installed transcode?01:42
bluesceadabut i also didnt get it to work manually with gentoo before ..01:42
dalamarits time linux crawled out from this uber hacker command line sys admin b.s. and have at least one distro take up having a nice personal desktop OS01:43
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HrdwrBoBdalamar: ... like ubuntu?01:44
derFlodeos anybody use evolution?01:44
HrdwrBoBderFlo: yes01:44
derFloalso in offline-mode?01:44
dalamarHrdwrBoB, exactly my point01:45
derFlomine reacts very slow. is that normal? thunderbird is 100 times faster.01:45
dave_looking for some help with ndiswrapper, when I try to modprobe I get a FATAL: error inserting ndiswrapper. I've tried recompiling with current kernel and headers but no luck. Any ideas???01:45
DekaPinkHuh... I'm trying to compile mcl, the mud client... and it says to me "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl"01:45
bluesceadaderFlo: i switched from gentoo to ubuntu on my 700mhz duron and i'd say ubuntu is a tad slower  .. but i dont need to compile the new packages ^^01:47
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derFlobluesceada: ubuntu is fast, only evolution needs lot's of time when opening imap-folders, syncing etc01:48
derFloand i have 56k !!!01:48
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bluesceadamh yeah gentoo was not much faster01:49
bluesceadain reaction time it was definately not faster01:49
derFlomy debian was very slow. but i had: sshd, mysqld, apache2, smartd, ...01:49
bluesceadabut you had to wait a bit shorter for different kind of stuff01:49
bluesceadahm main box running gentoo here and my 700duron running ubuntu now :)01:50
derFloi like ubuntus speed. faster bootup and gnome is faster then xfce on my old debian box01:50
bluesceadaor win(tendo) 2000 for playing old games like simcity3000 ^^01:50
derFlothe same machine01:50
bluesceadahm01:50
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p_Ocan someone tell me what this error means? (nautilus:18599): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:01:51
derFlobut evolution isn't usable. i can't wait 15mins just to open a folder01:51
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TomT64what -l do I use to include the python library01:51
bluesceadabut i certainly think ubuntu is the best desktop linux so far .. it is lightweight enough but still get everything you need01:51
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bluesceadaderFlo: i never used evolution ..01:52
EasterSunshinebluesceada: any idea on the best server linux?01:52
dalamari dislike it01:52
derFloi'll give it a try01:52
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cafuegoderFlo: have a look at 'offlineimap' ?01:53
derFloi'm downloading kontact01:53
dariusfirst installation... WOW i love ubuntu :-)!!!!!01:53
apokryphosderFlo: good idea01:53
derFlohopefully this won't be that worse01:53
derFloofflineimap?01:53
apokryphosyup01:53
apokryphosdisconnected IMAP01:53
cafuegoderFlo: Yes, sync imap locally, so yoi're not runnig it live over 56K (which is never going to be fast)01:54
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derFlocool, just read the descr.01:55
apokryphos!kontact01:55
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, apokryphos01:55
apokryphosd'oh01:55
atilahi all :-) I need to find the name of an application to organise my thoughts. had seen it on the forums once but cannot find again :-(01:55
dariusAAA: multitrack audio file editor... any raccomandation?01:55
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KeepItReal # Wine Official Package Mirror01:55
KeepItRealdeb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/01:55
KeepItRealdeb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/01:55
KeepItRealis this what i have to put on souces.list to install wine ?01:56
KeepItRealsources*01:56
dalamarheh no01:56
mojo343anyone know the command to dpkg to make it installed like apt-get?01:56
derFlothank you for the offlineimap-tip sounds good01:56
_frankKeepItReal: wine is in universe01:56
derFlodpkg -i asdf.deb01:56
dariussudo dpkg -i01:56
mojo343thanks01:57
KeepItReal_frank,  ???01:57
dalamaradd universe and sudo apt-get install wine01:57
dalamar!repos01:57
ubotuhmm... repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:57
dalamarfollow it ;)01:57
KeepItRealoh thanks man01:57
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atilaanyone knowing the name of the meta thought organizer application ? please ?01:58
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EasterSunshinesudo apt-get install atila's_brain01:58
apokryphosatila: er, what?01:58
atilaEasterSunshine : ty :-) lol01:59
EasterSunshineatila: maybe try an application that puts sticky notes on your desktop?01:59
_frankatila: try gpenandpaper ;-)01:59
bluesceadaEasterSunshine: oh i don't know for servers ..01:59
atilaapokryphos : once I saw a forum thread where people talk about their favprite applications01:59
apokryphosright...01:59
bluesceadafor servers there would be needed performance testing etc. .... not something you can just look and feel like a desktop os01:59
atilaand someone mentioned using an kind of meta thought organizer thnigy02:00
EasterSunshinebluesceada: debian and rh seem to be the server distros02:00
apokryphosatila: do you mean a program for digital sticky notes?02:00
atilabut cannot find it after searching for hours ...02:00
atilaapokryptos : not like notes; more like bubbles connected to be organised02:00
apokryphosatila: it would help if we knew what it did, I'd guess. What exactly is a meta thought?02:00
apokryphosubotu: tell atila about tab02:00
Chadzatab?02:00
EasterSunshineubotu tell me about tab02:00
bimberiatila: freemind? (it's a mind mapping tool)02:00
crimsunDoes anyone have access to a Breezy live cd (Colony 3 or later) and can check something for me?02:01
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atilafreemind may beeee :-)02:01
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EasterSunshineohh...i thought tab was a kick-ass mind organizer app02:01
atilalet me seeeee :-)02:01
apokryphoscrimsun: aha! Was wondering when you'd show up :P. Is 1.3 going into a repo?02:01
crimsunapokryphos: what did Riddell say regarding it?02:01
apokryphoscrimsun: he's not back still, is he?02:01
denis_molnarnew to ubuntu and irc.  need guidance on downloading a non-graphical internet browser such as lynx02:01
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atilabimberi : mind mapping :-)02:02
crimsunapokryphos: probably not, judging from his nick02:02
apokryphoscrimsun: I meant, is the pack you made going into a repo...02:02
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p1astikcan anyone please tell me how to set read permissions on an NTFS mounted hdd02:02
crimsunapokryphos: it will (mine)02:02
dariusok seeyasoon02:02
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crimsunp1astik: pass -o umask=022 to mount02:02
apokryphoscrimsun: cool; link? At least 4 people have asked in today about a repo for it02:02
denis_molnarmy dial-up is really sloooow02:02
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dalamardenis_molnar, sudo apt-get install lynx on command line02:02
crimsunapokryphos: working on it :)02:02
p1astikcrimsun: thanks....can i put that in my fstab?02:03
jasoncohenwhat's the command line option to leave out a directory when making backups with tar of /home for example. i don't want my music folder to be backed up02:03
EasterSunshinep1astik: -o ro will set it read-only02:03
apokryphoscrimsun: oh ok; be sure to send the link over when you're done :P02:03
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atilabimberi, freemind it is :-) thank you all . . .02:03
jasoncohenman tar doesn't help02:03
crimsunp1astik: sure02:03
EasterSunshinecrimsun: i've always set umask=0222...is that any different?02:03
bimberiatila: yvw :)02:04
sean_does the term: swapiness ring a bell to anyone in here?02:04
denis_molnarsounds good i will try it tonight.02:04
jedistarHello, I just need need some help and I am have installed Ubuntu... I dont know anything about this OS, but before I can read the docs/help I would need to change the refresh rate to at least 75hz.. its now at 60hz, it does not allow me to go higher.. I am using nvidia T1500 which can go up to 100hz02:04
bluesceadasean_: yeah a bit ..02:05
darkheart!tell jedistar about nvidia02:05
atilajedistar : you came to the right place :-)02:05
_frank!resolution02:05
ubotumethinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:05
darkheartjedistar Might want to just install the proper driver if you haven't done so yet.02:05
sean_bluesceada, i've got mine at 40. instead of 60, think its a reasonable value for a 64mb <ram> machine?02:05
dalamarjasoncohen, tar --help look through the -X options02:05
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jedistaryeah, as soon I can get this fixed.. my eyes wont hurt when I read the doc :)02:05
bluesceadasean_: depends on what you do the most i think02:05
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bluesceadathat means it swaps less, and tries to clean ram first02:06
jedistarthank you02:06
sean_everything, lol, no gaming, but word processing, browsing, IM, radio, etc..02:06
atilathanks again and see you all :-) bye02:06
bluesceadahm you could even set it lower .. if you want02:06
sean_i might just do that, wasnt sure if id be butchering the chicken thou02:07
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bluesceadaand maybe try using cfq for your hard drives then02:07
sean_cfq?? havent heard that term before02:08
bluesceadacompletely fair queueing gives all programs the same performance ... or how you could say it ..02:08
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sean_oh wow, i like the sound of that02:08
bluesceadaelevator=cfq as a kernel parameter02:08
sean_sounds like im rebuilding my kernel :)02:08
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bluesceadahm should be in it02:09
bluesceadayou can even change the scheduler on the fly afaik ..02:09
bluesceadawith the procfs02:09
sean_wow, thats indepth, where can i find some docs?02:09
crimsunlwn.net, lkml archives, or kerneltrap.org02:10
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sean_thank you, and thank you too :)02:10
bluesceadagoogle ;)02:10
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jasoncoheni used "-X=/home/jason/My\ Music\ CDs" and it says "tar: =/home/jason/My Music CDs: No such file or directory". However it does in fact exist02:11
nopeahey guys and gals... can Ubuntu (or any other flavor of Linux) copy files from a Mac OS X CD?02:12
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crimsunjasoncohen: err, --exclude-from=FILE ?02:13
crimsunjasoncohen: if "My Music CDs" is a file (not a directory), then you need to adjust the placement of the beginning double quote02:13
ChadzaSomeone mentioned 'freemind' as a sticky/organizer earlier, is it in any of the main repos?02:13
jedistarI have to do this command sudo nvidia-glx-config enable at a terminal?02:13
crimsunjedistar: yes02:13
jedistarwhere is the terminal btw?02:13
crimsunjedistar: System> Applications> System...02:13
apokryphosjedistar: everywhere!02:14
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jasoncohencrimsun, oh- i can't have it ignore a whole directory02:14
bimberiChadza: no it isn't02:14
jedistarthanks crimsun02:14
bimberiChadza: it's a Java app, you need to install a JRE environment02:14
jasoncohencrimsun, can i use a wildcard like --exclude-from=*.mp302:14
Chadzabimberi, I have java jdk 1.5 installed, if that's what you mean.02:14
bimberiChadza: then go to the freemind site (first hit in google) and download the it02:14
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jedistaris the same as root terminal?02:15
bimberis/the it/it/02:15
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jedistaris it I mean02:15
bimberiChadza: that should be fine02:15
d2dchathow come my installtion of mysql doesnt come with a mysql.sock file?02:15
crimsunjasoncohen: try generating it on the fly via $(ls somedir/*.mp3)02:15
popeyd2dchat: surely that file is created when mysql starts?02:15
crimsund2dchat: err, why wouldn't that be in /var/run/... ?02:15
Chadzabimberi, Okay, lemme go try that out.02:16
Nexinarusok so say i have libgcc1 version 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 but require >=1:4.0.0-7, how do i use a backport (or find the latest version...)02:16
d2dchatoooooo02:16
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d2dchat/var/run/mysqld/myswld.sock02:16
d2dchat/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock02:16
d2dchatlol, why is it that?/02:17
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d2dchatwhy the extra d?02:17
BSG75hola, any idea how I can install kde for ubuntu?02:17
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apokryphos!kde02:17
ubotuA powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/02:17
darkheartBSG75 I believe 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' will work.02:17
BSG75many thanx Darkheart02:17
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jasoncohencrimsun, ls: /home/jason/My Music CD/*.mp3: No such file or directory02:18
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d2dchatcrimsun, thank you!!02:18
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KeepItRealhow can i see .wmv files ?02:19
derFlociao, going to bed. thx02:19
crimsunjasoncohen: generate a file from the directory listing prior to executing tar02:19
KeepItReali just try everthing and nothing02:19
darkheartBSG75 You're welcome02:19
funkyHatis jackd installed by default in ubuntu?02:19
BSG75KeepItReal: xine mplayer02:19
amonkeyi forgot where i installed jre. how can i find out where the java link in bin goes to?02:19
crimsunfunkyHat: no. Enable universe and install jackd.02:19
darkheart!tell KeepItReal about restricted02:19
KeepItRealBSG75,  doesn't work...02:19
funkyHatcrimsun, i've got it, just trying to get it working02:19
BSG75did u download the codecs?02:19
_frankKeepItReal: you need w32codecs02:19
BSG75sec02:19
darkheartKeepItReal Check out what ubotu sent you02:20
BSG75http://ubuntuguide.org/02:20
KeepItRealok darkheart02:20
BSG75everything u need to know02:20
apokryphosamonkey: ls -l /usr/bin/java02:20
KeepItRealBSG75,  yes i download02:20
funkyHatcrimsun, when i launch apps that use jackd they say the server isn't running/couldn't be contacted02:20
KeepItReali have a lot of porn and i can't see02:20
KeepItRealthat's terrible02:20
BSG75LOL02:20
crimsunfunkyHat: is jackd actually running?02:20
crimsun(via pgrep)02:20
BSG75that is terrible :)02:20
apokryphosI still dont' think it works that well with .wmv files; haven't got it to work properly here02:21
apokryphoss/dont'/don't02:21
BSG75my mplayer plays everything02:21
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funkyHatcrimsun, returns nothing, so i assume it isn't02:21
dalamarfight the man and his horrible .wmv files02:21
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apokryphoswas some time ago; I should perhaps retry02:21
BSG75unless they r the DRM'd to hell ones then I just delete because it's not worth my time02:21
crimsunfunkyHat: then you've discovered where you should begin troubleshooting02:21
jasoncohencrimsun, hmm, each CD has its own directory so there are quite a bit of directories02:21
funkyHatok :)02:21
darkheartOnly thing I remember hearing about was wmp9 encodes that had trouble playing.02:21
Nexinarusanyong ever managed to install transcode?02:21
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jasoncohenwhy isn't there a way to just exclude a directory?02:21
bluesceadasean_: btw. you can change the swapiness on the fly in the file /proc/sys/vm/swappiness .. just echo the number that you want to that file02:22
darkheartjasoncohen Why don't you just mv the directory somewhere else real quick?02:22
BSG75Nexinarus: transcode is working great for me02:22
brandome_xmms freezes on playback02:22
Nexinarushow did you install it?02:22
brandome_any help?02:22
_frankdarkheart: yeah streaming wmv9 is pretty bad02:22
apokryphos!xmms02:22
ubotuDon't use XMMS; it's a program that has easily passed its use-by-date. For alternatives see amaroK, JuK, Rhythmbox or beep.02:22
jasoncohendarkheart, i want to do nightly backups02:22
jasoncohencrimsun, can rsync exclude directories?02:22
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dalamarbah xmms forever!02:22
brandome_they wont work either02:22
Nexinarusi cant manage to install, depenencies of libgcc1 > than the latest version i can download02:22
cafuegojasoncohen: yes02:22
jasoncohenthat would also give the advantage of incremental backups02:22
apokryphosdalamar: yuk oO02:22
brandome_i cant get anythign to play audio files02:22
robotgeekbeep rocks02:22
jasoncohencafuego, what's the command to exclude a dir in rsync?02:22
dalamarrhythmbox is gross02:22
apokryphosbrandome_: have you tried the above suggested ones?02:23
Chadzabimberi, Okay, it's installed.02:23
_frankNexinarus: if the package is not built for ubuntu, you can try to compile it from source02:23
robotgeekdalamar: agreed!02:23
dalamarI want something exactly like winamp, xmms works ;)02:23
cafuegojasoncohen: --exclude string1 --exclude string2 ...02:23
BSG75if xmms is crashing check if you are using alsa02:23
brandome_yeah- same here02:23
apokryphosbrandome_: you may need gstreamer0.8-mad for some of those apps to play MP3s02:23
Chadzabimberi, Now I play.02:23
brandome_except my xmms doentss work02:23
bimberiChadza: enjoy! :)02:23
apokryphosdalamar: have you tried the others?02:23
brandome_i even tried command line mpg123 and that wont work eitehr02:23
cafuegojasoncohen: I for instance use --exclude /proc --exlcude /dev --exclude logs/02:23
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apokryphosdalamar: I'd find it highly suspect if someone went back to xmms after using those02:23
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apokryphosheck, even noatun is better and if you really want to it can look like winamp. Ergh.02:24
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brandome_at first i got the libmikmod ertror02:24
amonkeywhy do i get NoClassDefFoundErrors when i try to run java programs?02:24
brandome_but that is since been fixed02:24
dalamarapokryphos, well amarok is kde and bloat, dont know what juk is, but I've heard beep is good02:24
jasoncohencafuego, thanks02:24
apokryphosdalamar: how is it bloated? It's kde... yes?02:24
Amaranthhi02:24
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robotgeekK in kde stands for....:)02:25
apokryphosKool!02:25
Amaranthi'm alive02:25
apokryphosAmaranth: congratulations02:25
dalamarkde is ugly ;)02:25
brandome_i have gstreamer- but ill try reeinstalling it02:25
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cafuegoAmaranth: oh yuck, can you please not? ;-)02:25
dalamarjust imo02:25
jedistarhow do I get the desktop back up after using cntrl-alt-backspace to log out?02:25
robotgeekAmaranth: hi02:25
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Nexinarusif i install a new package (libgcc1) and it makes other programs not function, am i screwed>02:25
dalamarjedistar, startx02:25
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apokryphosAmaranth: you have a cold too?02:25
jedistarthanx02:25
Amaranthat the library, i start college tomorrow02:25
Amaranthyay me02:26
Xenguydalamar: there is something, er, garish, about it IMO02:26
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darkheartMm..college..I miss it.02:26
apokryphosdalamar: phew, and there was me thinking it was objectively ugly for a second...02:26
Amaranthi have over 1000 emails, not going to read any of them02:26
apokryphosAmaranth: recursive delete -- always handy.02:26
CookedGryphoni'm trying to install smeg, but it says python-xdm is too new or summat weird, (>+0.14 required) 0.9-1 installed02:26
AmaranthCookedGryphon: The official backports version is broken.02:27
bimberioh the wonderful timing of that post :)02:27
CookedGryphonoh right02:27
robotgeek:)02:27
CookedGryphonwhen's it gna b fixed?02:27
Amaranthwget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && sudo python installsmeg02:27
brandome_ok- i reienstalled gstreamer.8 mad02:27
brandome_didnt help02:27
Amaranthit isn't, smeg is going to be removed02:27
dalamarGranted I've never taken the time to deck out kde but I like the dual taskbar default gnome setup, simple and easy to install themes .. though I hear that XFCE is good too, haven't seen/tried it though02:27
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dalamarerm I installed smeg fine02:28
Sheba1hello02:28
Amaranthdalamar: That was the unofficial backports.02:28
jasoncohencafuego, rsync -ave --exclude "My Music CDs" /home /mnt/stuff/backups/ubuntudesktop02:28
jasoncohencafuego, would htat work?02:29
jasoncohen*that02:29
dalamarAmaranth, ah, i see02:29
liquidfirewoohoo i got cedega to work on a amd 6402:29
liquidfire:D02:29
apokryphosdalamar: you should try it out; one command on Ubuntu gets you there02:29
Amaranthgtg02:29
apokryphosAmaranth: what is the broken package still doing there? :/02:29
Sheba1I have a question about UBUNTY02:30
dalamarapokryphos, you mean xfce? is it as robust as kde/gnome or is it one of thoe barebones WMs?02:30
Sheba1I am a newbie (sorry)02:30
apokryphosdalamar: no, I mean KDE02:30
apokryphosSheba1: we'll decide whether to forgive you after02:30
dalamarapokryphos, I've tried it before02:30
LinuxJonesSheba1, nothing to be sorry about we all were at one time :)02:30
apokryphosdalamar: what does "deck out kde" mean then?02:31
Sheba1Thanks LJones02:31
dalamarapokryphos,  the default setup just didnt inspire me to customize it02:31
Sheba1I am having trouble downloading a package.02:31
LinuxJonesSheba1, chich one ?02:31
LinuxJoneserr which02:31
darkheart!tell Sheba1 about repositories02:31
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Sheba1limewire02:31
apokryphosdalamar: it's highly customizable, but you don't have to; as in, it works just fine as it is. Whatever floats your boat though.02:31
apokryphosubotu: tell Sheba1 about limewire02:32
robotgeek!start a wm war02:32
uboturobotgeek: Wish i knew02:32
dalamarapokryphos, well I'd have to customize to live with it for sure, I didn't really like the default taskbar at all02:32
apokryphosdalamar: as I said, whatever blows your hair back.02:32
liquidfiredalamar, i tried to install smeg today02:33
liquidfireand its installing now lol02:33
liquidfirevery wierd02:33
liquidfireOo02:33
apokryphosrobotgeek: he's good at initiating DE wars though :P02:33
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funkyHatcan anyone you help me set up jackd to use the realtime priveliges and to run at startup, without locking alsa?02:33
funkyHat0:-)02:33
liquidfirewhere can I find smeg when i installed it dalamar  ?02:33
dalamarliquidfire, applications, system tools02:34
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popeywhat starts esd? it's not listed in /etc/init.d that I can see?02:34
CookedGryphonlol it took me so long to install smeg i forgot what i wanted to put in the menu!02:34
CookedGryphonsmeg.02:35
bimberilol02:35
funkyHatpopey, the gnome sound server starts esd02:35
liquidfirewhats the command to run a java application ?02:35
popeyI want to restart esd, because I killed it to allow me to play a game that doesn't like it, and now I want to play some music in rhythmbox, but i think that needs esd02:35
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liquidfireI want to run azureus02:35
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funkyHatpopey, it -should- just start02:35
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popeyliquidfire: I just run the azureus binary, it finds java in the path02:35
dalamarapokryphos, kde has a good one built in right?02:35
popeyfunkyHat: yeah, but i killed it :D02:35
funkyHatyeah, but it should just start again when it is called02:36
funkyHattry it02:36
CookedGryphonoh yeah, java, thanks for reminding me, i put the path to the java executable in my /etc/profile file's PATH statement, but it doesn't find it and i have to type out the full path when i want to start a java program02:36
naliothazureus is satan02:36
apokryphosdalamar: naturally, but I never use it; most don't. Shouldn't that be how it is?02:36
popeyterminal hangs when i type "esd"02:36
robotgeeknalioth: i agree02:36
CookedGryphonOH YEAH! that's whta i wanted smeg for, i have a java version of Risk and wanted to start it automatically02:36
apokryphosdalamar: though, it's partly down to the fact that I don't use the menu (I have removed it) before; alt+f2 is faster02:36
funkyHatpopey, i mean just start the program you want to use02:36
robotgeeki use official bt client, ncurses02:36
popeyoh02:36
popeyin that case rhythmbox has "issues", it didn't start esd02:36
popeywhich i expect it should?02:36
dalamarapokryphos, you've convinced me to check it out again, you seem sane and not just screaming 'kde rocks' for no reason ;)02:36
naliothrobotgeek: ncurses-bt + gnu screen02:37
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liquidfireit says something about ' and fails to load02:37
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robotgeeknalioth: :)02:37
liquidfirehow to fix :)?02:37
apokryphosdalamar: I think it's infinitely superior to gnome, but I don't think it's necessarily the write DE for everyone. For example, the dual panels as you suggested is a valid point. There are a few others.02:37
jasoncohencafuego, rsync works great and it makes the backup process a lot faster. tahnks02:37
jasoncohen*thanks02:37
apokryphoss/write/right02:37
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HrdwrBoBapokryphos: infinitely?02:38
HrdwrBoBapokryphos: would you like to rethink your statement?02:38
cafuegojasoncohen: *nod* it's great. Be sure to also give it compression options :-)02:38
apokryphosHrdwrBoB: I am exaggerating, but must better yes =)02:38
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apokryphoss/must/much02:38
apokryphosdamn, it is getting late.02:38
jslIm on ubuntu right now :)02:38
jslGot My D-Link working02:38
apokryphosexcellent!02:38
dalamarapokryphos, I was under the impression you could setup a dual bar setup in kde as well, thought I did that last time I was running it02:38
jslMoving to ubuntu now02:38
popey\o/ @ moving to ubuntu02:38
mutiedoes the live cd come with the onscreen keyboard, anybody know?02:39
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ChadzaSuSe scared me away from KDE originally, but I was cured.02:39
apokryphosdalamar: with a application/launcher bifurcation? You perhaps can. I know you can easily change to Mac OS X style02:39
ChadzaBut fluxbox is the way!02:39
dalamarWell I'm going to install it and check it out02:39
theblueIs there a way to convert from Debian Sarge to Hoary?02:39
apokryphos=)02:39
robotgeekChadza: openbox is the r0x0rs!02:39
theblueCan I just do the sources.list switch?02:39
apokryphostheblue: it's not likely to be smooth, but there are a few success stories.02:40
theblueapokryphos: Oy vey.02:40
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thebluePardon me for a moment.02:40
liquidfirewhen i make a symbolic link using cedega like cedega pathtoexe will it work ?02:40
liquidfirein the menu02:40
dalamaryes02:40
liquidfirecool02:41
liquidfire=] 02:41
Chadzarobotgeek, Haven't tried that yet.  I got bb4win on xp, then I heard that it was based on fluxbox, which was a 'windows manager', whatever the heck that is, for this thing called linux, which was even weirder.02:41
CookedGryphonwhy oh why when i try and synchronise evolution with my gaim buddy list, does it pick jus tone contact at random to add?02:41
dalamardoes with wine at least heh02:41
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robotgeekChadza: welcome!02:41
dalamarChadza, bb4win is based on blackbox, another winow manager02:41
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jslWhats a good Ftp Client for Ubuntu (I use proftp for a server)02:41
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liquidfiregFTP ?02:41
dalamarChadza, hence the 'bb' ;)02:41
liquidfirejsl,02:41
apokryphosjsl: gftp/nautilus/konqueror02:41
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richardkillingswhello02:42
jslIm on Ubuntu (Gnome version...)02:42
richardkillingswi have a question02:42
richardkillingswim trying to install some icons on kubuntu02:42
jslSo i cant do like konquerer02:42
liquidfirejsl, use gFTP02:42
liquidfire:)02:42
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richardkillingswand i have to make a theme file from scratch02:42
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tagAnyone have one of those crappy i810 chipsets?02:43
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: what type of theme file?02:43
richardkillingswcan someone tell me what all i need to put on this file to make it work02:43
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: and how are those two related?02:43
richardkillingswindex.theme02:43
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: a karamba theme?02:43
richardkillingswa karamba theme?02:43
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popeytag: 0000:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 03)02:43
popeytag: one of them?02:44
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: what type of theme is it? Theme for....02:44
tagyeah02:44
tagone of those02:44
richardkillingswsome new icons i got off the web02:44
popeytag: yes, i do then :D02:44
popeytag: well, my wifes pc does02:44
tagpopey: well how did you get it to work?02:44
popeytag: get what to work?02:44
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: sounds like Windows to me, I don't know.02:45
tagpopey: I only have it drawing a little box, 640x480, in the middle of the screen (get X to work correctly)02:45
richardkillingswno its linux icons02:45
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: in KDE icon "themes" are just a set of folders with icons02:45
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popeytag, want my xorg.conf?02:46
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: link?02:46
richardkillingswthey are png files02:46
tagpopey: Yes and any kernel options if you are passing them02:46
richardkillingswwindows uses ico files for icons right02:46
popeystandard kernel options, no changes there02:46
tagoh, sweet02:46
richardkillingswhold on02:46
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: perhaps. Is it a *kde icon theme* ?02:46
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tagpopey: did your auto-configure work out or was it as much of a bitch as they appear to typically be? :-P02:46
popeyworked ok02:46
tagreally, I've got this dell inspiron 1100 and it's not working out02:46
dalamarworks fine with decent chipsets ;)02:46
popeythis is a dell02:46
tagdalamar: yes, with decent chipsets02:46
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: if it's a kde icon theme then you should be able to point to the tar in kcontrol02:46
dalamardell is the evil ;)02:47
richardkillingswhttp://en.crystalxp.net/gallery/png1.php02:47
richardkillingswthis is the link02:47
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popeytag: http://popey.com/xorg.conf02:47
HrdwrBoBrichardkillingsw: that tux gallery ROCKS02:47
richardkillingswyeah i know02:47
ray_tux gallery?02:47
richardkillingswi want to install it02:47
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HrdwrBoBhttp://tux.crystalxp.net/02:47
Fleischlegorehi. :)02:47
liquidfirebah02:47
richardkillingswbut i cant figure out how02:47
ray_ty02:47
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: heh, it says "Crystalizes your Windows XP"02:48
liquidfirewhen i try to do apt-get w32codecs02:48
liquidfirei cant install them02:48
liquidfireamd 6402:48
liquidfire:o02:48
richardkillingswbut they are png files02:48
richardkillingswwindows doesnt use png files02:48
Fleischlegoliquidfire: apt-get install w32codes :P02:48
apokryphosubotu: tell liquidfire about w32codecs02:48
richardkillingswthey use ico files02:48
CookedGryphonOK simple question, PATH variable, i want to set it to search /usr/java/bin so i can run java things easily, i put that in the /etc.profile path line and it didn't work, there was no path variable setting in ~/.bashrc so i assumed maybe it went of fthe profile one, what am i doing wrong?02:48
dalamarbrb02:48
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ray_CookedGryphon: java should be able to run just by typing java02:49
popeyrichardkillingsw: there's a command called "icontopbm"02:49
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: those icons look a lot like Linspire's ones. You can download those from kdelook.org02:49
FleischlegoDoes anyone know where the 'java.library.path' is? :)02:49
richardkillingswok02:49
richardkillingswwhich icon package is it on kdelook.org02:50
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: well, the Crystal ones themselves are on kdelook too of course02:50
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: Cyrstal Clear: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25668&PHPSESSID=ea97f17fc2c089c557d6ac2b75682b9602:51
apokryphosrichardkillingsw: not sure exactly which icon theme you were referring to from that link though...02:51
robotgeekthis bbwin thing is good!02:51
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kikitowhat up fellas02:52
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kikitohave anybody set up cube?02:52
ray_i have02:52
ray_cube is cool02:53
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naliothrobotgeek: what is bbwin?02:53
kikitoI keep getting this error about libSDL02:53
kikitocant get it going02:53
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trans_erroff topic: anyone know if I can use a Linksys WRT54G to extend a current wireless network?02:53
robotgeeknalioth: blackbox like shell for windows!02:53
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Nexinarusomg i think ive majorly fucked up my box02:53
CookdGryphondid sum1 answer my java question? i got disconnected02:53
naliothrobotgeek: ah. i dont run windoze02:53
dalamarokay, I have a question, on the login screen my whole screen is offset by an inch or so to the right, and when I load gnome everything fixes itself and is centered .. now I try KDE and even when the whole desktop is loaded the screen is off-centered, what gives?02:54
robotgeeknalioth: lab work, CAD design..sucks!02:54
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robotgeeknalioth: this alteast allieviates the issue02:54
ray_kikito: sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.202:54
Nexinarusi installed new version of libgcc1 and libc6... and now it remove ubuntu_base, g++, libtool, ubuntu-desktop, lsb, most of the important looking packages :(02:54
Nexinarusshit02:54
ray_kikito: then it will work02:54
kikitoray: I did that02:54
naliothrobotgeek: alleviates what issue?02:54
ray_kikito: and the mixer?02:54
kikitoray: but still doesnt work02:54
richardkillingswok this is the same theme02:54
richardkillingswas the one i already had02:55
kikitoray: hmmmm let me check that out02:55
ray_kikito: sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.202:55
kikitoray: mixer?02:55
richardkillingswhow do i install this02:55
ray_kikito: do exactly that02:55
kikitoray: k let me check02:55
Nexinarusis there a way i can undo my changes.. i've majorly fucked up my box and i dont want to restart...02:55
ray_kikito: copy and paste02:55
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DekaPinkHey all... Does anyone know how to work koalamud? :302:56
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kikitoray: k its still going02:56
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ray_kikito: Enemy-territory is way better02:56
ray_kikito: but cube is fun02:57
amonkeyhas anyone tried to get a tivo home media server running? i've tried severalprograms and i can't get them to broadcast02:57
richardkillingswdude02:57
kikitoray: enemy territory?02:57
richardkillingswit wont let me install this theme02:57
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richardkillingswand i have a theme file with it02:57
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kikitoray: is there a tutorial on how to install that one?02:57
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ray_kikito: yeah ...... its a free game based on wolfenstien..all online and good graphics02:57
tagpopey: that didn't work out either...hurmph02:57
popey:(02:58
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ray_kikito: that and americas army02:58
kikitoray: nice02:58
richardkillingswcould i put that link into synaptic and install it that way02:58
kikitoray: sweet02:58
kikitoray: im tired of playing couterstrike02:58
kikitoray: want to check something new02:58
ray_kikito: if you get cube installed i will play you02:58
kikitoray: awesome02:58
kikitoray: k its installed hold on02:59
kikitoray: perfect!!!!!!!!!02:59
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kikitoray: got it going02:59
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kikitoray: how I play you?02:59
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ray_cool let me install really quick02:59
kikitoray: k03:00
ray_kikito: ok installed03:02
kikitodo you see my offer for chat?03:03
ray_yeah03:03
ray_do a03:03
ray_update master server03:03
jack|assis Ubuntu Breezy fixed yet?03:03
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ray_i will meet you in there my name will be ray03:03
kikitoray: huh?03:04
ray_go into the room with the most people03:04
kikitoray: how?03:04
ray_in the game list there is an option to update master server list03:04
six2onein ooo2 how do you set the default file type? i want to set it to .rtf by default03:04
kikitoray: ok03:04
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Nexinarusi hate this.. ive nearly fucked up my whole system from installing transcode dependencies :S03:06
six2onein ooo2 how do you set the default file type? i want to set it to .rtf by default.03:06
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funkyHathow can i play a sound through /dev/dsp1 (aoss)?03:07
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masta_can someone help me with setting up twiinview?03:07
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azahidqestions for somebody who can help: 1) why the Totem browser plugin is unable to play the video feed in the CNN web page. Mplayer plugin just works fine. 2) My Canon 3000f scanner is not listed in the supported Linux scanners webpage. Is that mean there is no way to make it work or it requires lot of knowledge and tweaking ?03:10
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ciscoopa03:10
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ciscoalgum poderia me ajudar03:11
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ciscoquero saber sobre o cebeta!03:11
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ray_um english03:11
ciscoalgum pode me ajudar?03:11
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masta_can anyone help me with twiinview?03:11
ray_no comprende03:11
ray_ubuntu-es03:12
kikitoray: good game03:12
ciscohum ok03:12
ciscosorry03:12
kikitoray: I was unnamed03:12
ray_kikito: yeah im not in the mood at the moment03:12
ciscodo you speak english?03:12
bimberi!br03:12
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.03:12
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ray_kikito: yeah i asked if it was you03:12
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kikitoray: how do I change name?03:12
IceDC571how do i make apt-get ignore a broken package?03:12
Pickle_Weaselhow would i give myself root access in X? i can't drop file A into folder B without it03:12
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XenguyPickle_Weasel: Ubuntu uses sudo, not root03:13
ray_kikito: type t      that is to talk....then /n           <-------name that you want03:13
Pickle_Weaselis "sudo" an actual user that i can log in with?03:13
ciscohow I use the cebeta?03:13
Agrajag!sudo03:13
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:13
Agrajagread that03:13
lookyis there a way of saving your settings if you are using the livecd version ?03:13
Pickle_Weaselkk ty03:13
ray_looky: install   ..........lol03:14
kikitoray: thanks I will check out those other games you metioned03:14
masta_who wants to tell me about twinview? anybody?03:14
ray_kikito: enemy-territory is frickin awesome03:14
noob-leechstrangely, everything works again.03:14
kikitoray: got it03:14
lookyubuntu will not install correctly on my sony laptop03:14
noob-leechthanks again. :)03:14
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ray_masta_: what is twinveiw03:14
ciscowhich page I find cebeta?03:15
lookyso i use the livecd version, that has no problems03:15
ciscowhich page I find cebeta?03:15
ciscoanda what's cebeta? x] 03:15
ciscoI am new with the program linux, necessary of aid!03:16
ray_!br03:16
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.03:16
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Xappehmm, I guess i should totally remove the xorg-driver-fglrx before using the ati installer from their website, right?03:16
kikitoray: thanks for all your help man03:16
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masta_me get 2 monitor me need help with twinview me wish you stop ignoring me03:17
ray_Xappe: fglrx didnt work03:17
kikitoray: I will see you playing enemy-territory later03:17
ray_masta_: look ^03:17
Xapperay_: what?03:17
ray_kikito: there is alot of games going on .... i would have to give you the ip03:17
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jack|assis the Cairo problem fixed so I can upgrade to breezy without killing my laptop?03:18
kikitoray: I see03:18
ray_masta_: dont use the ati drivers from the site03:19
ray_oops03:19
Xapperay_: why?03:19
ray_Xappe: cuz they dont work03:19
kikitoray:  ok Im gonna play some cube.  see ya later ray03:19
ray_kikito: later03:19
darkheartray_ That's not true.03:19
Xapperay_: for you, or for everyone?03:19
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ray_for alot of people03:20
ray_that i have talked to03:20
ray_just03:20
masta_i... have an nvidia card03:20
azahidanybody: is it possible to play CNN videos with Totem browser plugin??03:20
Xappewell, I guess they work if I install them properly03:20
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ray_apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx then edit xorg and where "ati" put "fglrx" and boom they work03:20
jslis there a good mp3 player for linux?03:21
ray_Xappe: ok you can try the ones from the site but im telling you your gonna have problems03:21
apokryphosIs there a desktop communications protocol in gnome? Like DCOP, but for gnome?03:21
bluesceadajsl: amarok , beep media player ..03:21
Xapperay_: my question was if I should remove that package before installing the new drivers ;)03:21
ray_Xappe: yeah you should03:21
apokryphosjsl: indeed, there are excellent ones. Better than Winamp :P03:21
azahidBeepmp3 players: Beep03:22
ray_what the hell is winamp03:22
Nexinarushey, with a default install of ubuntu - is Lilo installed?03:22
apokryphosNexinarus: no, GRUB.03:22
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_frankno03:22
ray_i dont think so03:22
jslBut what is one...03:22
jslI dont have none that do it03:22
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ray_jsl: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player03:23
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apokryphosjsl: you were already given some. amarok, juk, beep, rhythmbox, noatun...03:23
Nexinarusgood, i will uninstall lilo then - im not sure what base packages i needed..03:23
dalamarapokryphos, are there skins for amarok?03:23
apokryphosdalamar: indeed03:23
dalamark03:23
apokryphosdalamar: with the latest amaroK version you can also use KHotNewStuff for new styles03:23
Nexinarusi hope like fuck my system still works, restarting...03:24
jslE: Couldn't find package beep-media-player03:24
apokryphosdalamar: well, it depends on how you use the term skin03:24
jslGot that error03:24
apokryphosdalamar: if you mean winamp-type skin, then no. It is a KDE app03:24
hardw1regood evening! :D03:24
ray_hmm let me look03:24
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dalamarugh03:24
apokryphosdalamar: noatun for "skin weenies"03:24
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apokryphoss/for/is for03:24
hardw1reisnt there a package for mplayer? cause i cant seem to find it any more :S03:24
apokryphos!mplayer03:24
ubotuapokryphos: Wish i knew03:24
HrdwrBoBhardw1re: it's in multiverse03:24
apokryphosger, who deleted the factoid? :S03:25
HrdwrBoB!repositories03:25
ubotuwell, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:25
ray_!find beep-media-player03:25
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'beep-media-player' (2 shown): beep-media-player ;; beep-media-player-dev.03:25
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jsl!find beep-media-player03:25
hardw1re!3D03:25
ubotuWish i knew, hardw1re03:25
hardw1re!acceleration03:25
ubotuhardw1re: Are you smoking crack?03:25
hardw1relol03:25
apokryphosjsl: what's the problem?03:26
ray_jsl: i take it you dont know about repos03:26
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jack|assis ubotu a factoid bot?03:26
jack|ass!cairo?03:26
ubotujack|ass: Did you get hit by a windmill?03:26
ray_apokryphos: he needs universe i think for beep03:26
ompaul!ubotu03:26
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:26
jack|assompaul: thanks03:26
scoperesolutionI need help configuring my wireless pcmcia card03:26
hardw1reO_o03:26
ompauljack|ass, it is :)03:26
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apokryphosjsl: read the link above about adding repositories03:26
jack|assompaul: doesn't have the info i need, but oh well. :)03:27
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hardw1remy cpu seems to show up wrong alot of the time...03:27
ompauljack|ass, when you get it add it and then it will have it03:27
hardw1re(CPU): AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+: (Frequency): 1040.106MHz: (Cache): 512 KB: (Bogomips): 2061.6503:27
apokryphosnice03:27
hardw1reits showing it 800MHz slower for some reason :|03:27
Pickle_Weaselwhen i installed ubuntu, it used more than the 3 GB of free space i gave it somehow, so now i have a partition overlap, anyone know how to rectify this?03:27
azahidhow can i edit PDF file?03:27
HrdwrBoBhardw1re: no, it's correct03:27
HrdwrBoBhardw1re: it's automatically slowed down because you're not yusing it03:27
hardw1reO_o03:27
HrdwrBoBit's using less power and creating less head03:27
_frankhardw1re: thats because powernow slows it down when your'e not using it03:27
hardw1reok....03:27
HrdwrBoBheat03:27
hardw1re:o03:28
jack|assompaul: heh, i will if i can find it.  I'm trying another dist-upgrade.  hopefully all will be well this time around. :)03:28
hardw1rewell thats gonna really effect the vapour phase cooling...03:28
ompaul!upgrade03:28
ubotumethinks upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:28
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HrdwrBoBhardw1re: ?03:28
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ompaul: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)  = yuk!!03:29
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hardw1rewell i have vapour phase cooling, in windows the cpu usually sits between -40 and -55 degree's C, if linux slows it down then even less heat meaning my cpu is gonna be even colder :f03:29
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HrdwrBoBwindows would slow it down too03:29
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hardw1relol, nah windows is just slow fullstop lol03:30
HrdwrBoBit just wouldn't tell you about it03:30
durt-55 C is very cold03:30
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hardw1rewww.extremeprometeia.com03:30
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HrdwrBoBhardw1re: have you overclocked the bejesus out of it?03:30
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hardw1reno not yet, i keep forgetting to read thru the tutorial on overclocking amd64's03:31
jayparadiseanyone have a /etc/apt/sources link?03:31
HrdwrBoB!repositories03:31
uboturumour has it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto03:31
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tiglionabbityo, when anonymous users upload files to my vsftpd they come out with no read/write access for anyone but root.  Why's that and how do I change it?03:31
hardw1rehmm03:32
CookdGryphonbeep-media player can u get it to play wma files? can u get rhythmbox to? i have mplayer and that plays wmas but it doesn't have a playlist editor or anything, you ahve to type in the name of each file u want to play, i can't set up the gui version for some reason03:32
christianso how come ubuntu doesn't want to join the new debian consortium?03:32
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jayparadisethinanks HrdwrBoB03:32
hardw1rechange the ownership03:32
hardw1reto an anonymous group or something03:32
jhallIs this where a nubi would get answers to some install questions?03:32
hardw1reof the main folder03:32
tiglionabbitCookdGryphon: gmplayer has a playlist03:32
tiglionabbitcan't set it up?03:32
avanspronsenjhall: yes03:33
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jhallgetting errors03:33
CookdGryphongmplayer won't run03:33
CookdGryphonit doesn't recognise the command03:33
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CookdGryphonotherwise i would03:33
naliothbfn03:33
tiglionabbitwhat I mean about vsftpd is that sure it has the group as ftp but its access bits are like rw-------03:33
Bryan29556anyone use upower to spice up your boot sequence?03:33
XappeCookdGryphon: compiled it yourself?03:33
avanspronsenjhall: what errors are you getting?03:33
CookdGryphonyep03:34
jayparadisedamn that link just tells how to let Synaptic update it for you is there a paste bin or something so i can just copy and paste?03:34
Dr_MelectausDoes anyone know of any other internet shows that are like www.thebroken.org ?03:34
CookdGryphonand i included the --enable-gui option03:34
XappeCookdGryphon: and you used the --with-gui option on the config?03:34
Bryan29556I did everything that the wiki said to do and it still has a black backgroud (doesn't use the pretty penguin jpeg)03:34
XappeCookdGryphon: ah --enable-gui it is :)03:34
jhallwhen I try to launch add remove programs (and others) I get an error03:35
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jhallit seems to be related to permissions03:35
CookdGryphonXappe: any ideas about that then?03:35
jhallbecause I can run it as root03:35
tiglionabbitsay, I installed firefox from source using "apt-get source --build mozilla-firefox".  Now when I open a link in another application, it tries to open a new profile of firefox, rather than just a new tab in the window that's open03:35
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XappeCookdGryphon: it won't lauch gmplayer at all?03:36
hardw1reanyone here experimented with logitech quickcam's on an x86_64?03:36
CookdGryphonXappe: is it just not in a searched path or what?03:36
CookdGryphonit doesn't recognise the command03:36
tiglionabbithardw1re: if you can figure out how to make those work tell me, I've got one too03:36
XappeCookdGryphon: it should be03:36
caldwell_when i boot my amd64 box with the breezy 2.6.12 kernel i get a 'can't find libc.so.6' error.  in order to fix it, i have to mount the initrd.img, cp -a the contents, mv the libs from lib64 to lib, and mkcramfs a new initrd.  Is this a known issue?03:36
geneo93hehe03:36
epnever heard of www.thebroken.org03:36
hardw1reyeah i got a quickcam messenger, got the qc-usb-messenger.0.80 driver / installation03:36
hardw1rebut having trouble getting to work03:36
hardw1rejust doesnt find my camera03:37
avanspronsenjhall: what error message do you get?03:37
CookdGryphonXappe: does it amke any difference that i compiled mplayer without the gui, then afterwards downloaded the skins n everything and recompiled it?03:37
hardw1rebut it is listed in the lsusb with the 46d:8003:37
DekaPinkI don't suppose anyone knows how to work pennmush? Or at least some tutorials to start me off, maybe... x)03:37
XappeCookdGryphon: maybe you missed a dependency to get the gui to compile properly?03:37
christianmy logitech camera uses the phylips driver i believe03:37
jhallhold on let me generate it again03:37
hardw1retiglionabbit: if i get it working i'll probably post about it on the ubuntu forums03:37
jhallFailed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install:03:38
jhall Child terminated with 1 status03:38
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CookdGryphonXappe: there were no errors at the compile03:38
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CookdGryphonand i could always download it but can't be bothered, i'm on a slow connection, not good thing for linux really03:38
christianhardwlre: if you lsmod | grep pwc03:38
christiandoes it show up?03:38
XappeCookdGryphon: try to do a make uninstall first, maybe that'll help03:38
caldwell_also, any time i try to use a program that uses XVideo, it crashes X (X restarts back at the login screen).  This happens when I use either the 'ati' driver or the 'radeon' driver.  Any ideas?03:39
hardw1renothing showed up03:39
avanspronsenjhall: what other apps give you this error message?03:39
CookdGryphonokay, ta03:39
hardw1reBus 001 Device 006: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. <--- thats the camera tho03:39
hardw1reso its connected03:39
jhallsynaptic package man03:39
hardw1reive just reinstalled the system after making a major boo boo tryingto get qemu installed :| so i need to recompile the driver and give it another shot03:40
CookdGryphonXappe: no go, i get an error 2 when i try and make uninstall03:40
jhallthose are the only two I have tried so far03:40
avanspronsenjhall03:41
jhallI just finished installing03:41
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avanspronsenjhall: what are you trying to install?03:41
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XappeCookdGryphon: then I realy don't know :/03:41
Xappe*really03:41
jhallI was only trying to browse the apps and see what is installed03:41
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avanspronsenjhall: and you get the exact same message opening synaptic?03:42
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jhallyuip03:42
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jhallyes03:42
hardw1rechristian: my router isnt configured for dcc chat03:43
christianoh okay03:43
christianhardw1re: what does your  dmesg show?03:43
CookdGryphonXappe: thanks anyway, i'll try deleting everything and starting again03:43
CookdGryphontaht might work03:44
helloyoanyone here proficient at transcode? trying to get a video clip to certain constraints, but its taking up too much space, and i can't change the frame rate succesfully03:44
hardw1realot of text :P03:44
XappeCookdGryphon: hopefully yes03:44
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avanspronsenjhall: from a terminal try: sudo apt-get check03:44
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XappeCookdGryphon: can't totem play wma if you use the mplayer codecs?03:45
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XappeCookdGryphon: or totem-xine03:45
Fingolfinnheys03:45
CookdGryphondoes that have a playlist tho?03:46
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jhallwhen I try to use sudo it says that I am not in the sudoers file.  Do you know how I can get in there?03:46
CookdGryphoncos i have like 4000 trakcs and i want them in some kind of ordr, i usually play them shuffled, all of em03:46
XappeCookdGryphon: yes, I think so03:46
christianhardw1re: i suppose its using ohci_hcd?03:46
caldwell_anyone?03:46
helloyocan anyone help me with transcode?03:47
XappeCookdGryphon: I use it for all my video files, but I don't think i've tested it with wma03:47
hardw1rei am totally unsure, i dont know what im suppose to be looking for int that dmesg :S - i know that the alsa conf detects the microphone thats built into the camera with no problems03:47
ukatohas anyone by chance used linspire before03:47
avanspronsenjhall: are you logged in using the account you created when you install Ubuntu?03:47
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CookdGryphonXappe: okay, now when i configure mplayer --enable-gui, it says needs X11 support for GUI option03:47
jhallyes I am03:47
CookdGryphonwhich is odd as i was using it from X11,and was sure configure worked last time03:47
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apokryphosjhall: and it says that *that* account cannot sudo?03:48
CookdGryphondo i need X11 dev pkgs or something?03:48
christianwhat version of the camera do you have/03:48
jhallyes03:48
christian?03:48
avanspronsenjhall: have you previously set a root password03:48
jhallyes03:48
XappeCookdGryphon: probably, check the readme03:48
apokryphosjhall: that is close to impossible, unless you edited the subdoers file03:48
christianwhat model number, is what i meant03:48
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apokryphosjhall: anyhow, do visudo (as root), and add...... {username} ALL=(ALL) ALL03:49
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robotgeekdamn...i suffered all these days from the windows interface. bb4win is making it a bit easier :)03:49
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hardw1rehttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/GB/EN,CRID=2204,CONTENTID=504103:50
avanspronsenjhall: using root you need to add yourself back to the sudoers file03:50
hardw1rechristian: ^^ thats the url for it03:50
webby`Hi, I can't start up totem player. It says "failed to open video output. It may not be available. Please select another viddeo output in the Multemedia Systems selector"03:51
webby`How do I solve this problem?03:51
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Luna-TickHello folks :)03:52
webby`Anyone?03:52
Luna-TickHow stable is Breezy atm?03:52
hardw1retrust me Luna-Tick dont bother03:52
hardw1rei already have03:52
apokryphosLuna-Tick: pretty stable03:52
hardw1reand i've gone back to hoary03:53
apokryphosheh03:53
Luna-TickLOL03:53
webby`Breezy is pretty good03:53
robotgeekhardw1re: that bad?03:53
avanspronsenLuna-Tick: I am typing fro mit right now03:53
hardw1reit is yeah03:53
apokryphosLuna-Tick: though, I'm not using gnome03:53
robotgeeki have old hardware, so it should work fine!03:53
durtwebby': go to system>preferences>multimedia preferences>videp03:53
webby`I can't get sound on hoary but got sound on breezy03:53
Luna-Tick:P:03:53
hardw1rebut its just not optimised for games03:53
webby`Ok durt03:53
LaserJockI'm using Gnome in Breezy and it is going good right now03:53
Luna-TickI was planning to just update the packages for Openoffice03:53
christianhardw1re: have you tried http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55482&highlight=quickcam+messenger03:54
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gaatmxAnybody could see http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org ??03:54
Luna-Tickbecause the openoffice2 packages in Hoary are rubbish03:54
hardw1rewebby`: might be the way hoary detects sound devices, you might have a usb device that it is loading before your sound card03:54
webby`Thanks! That works durt03:54
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Elsidoxhello03:54
apokryphosLuna-Tick: there's newer ones in Breezy, at least.03:54
hardw1rethats what i have had problems with, so i just added to the modules file to load my sound card 1st03:54
Luna-Tickwould it could a problem if I just upgrade those and dependencies?03:54
webby`Maybe hardw1re03:54
Elsidoxcan someone tell me an easy way of extracting a file in the terminal?03:54
durtwebby': you fixed it??03:54
avanspronsenLuna-Tick: what about backports?03:54
webby`Yes durt03:54
webby`It starts up now03:55
durtwow03:55
webby`lol03:55
apokryphosLuna-Tick: not really; there'd be problems; you'd more or less have breezy03:55
avanspronsen!backports03:55
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section03:55
Elsidoxcan anyone tell me how to extract a file in the terminal?03:55
apokryphosElsidox: a tar?03:55
Luna-TickI have backports installed03:56
Luna-Tickno dice03:56
Elsidoxapokryphos a rar file03:56
apokryphossee packages.ubuntu.com for what Breezy has03:56
apokryphosElsidox: rar x {something}.rar03:56
XappeElsidox: get unrar-nonfree from the repositories03:56
Elsidoxapokryphos thanks03:57
apokryphosElsidox: if you don't have it already, sudo aptitude install rar03:57
ElsidoxXappe im not in unbuntu03:57
apokryphos(or one of the other many rar packages)03:57
Elsidoxim at a friend house03:57
Elsidoxand he runs vector linux03:57
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Luna-TickOkay .. well I have removed the repository for breezy and cancelled my downloads03:57
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XappeElsidox: well you can always get unrar from the rarlabs website03:58
Luna-TickI'll go back to Windows and do it in there. At least I can just download a binary!03:59
ukatohas anyone tried to uninstall linspire?03:59
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Luna-TickDoes anyone know why Silc has never been put into the repositories?? I was using silc-gaim back on Mandrake years ago.04:00
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LaserJockLuna-Tick: If you want the latest OpenOffice use http://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenOffice2Beta or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=278350&postcount=24504:02
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CookdGryphonDoes anyone know when Openoffice.org 2 is coming out of beta?04:02
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Luna-TickThank you!04:03
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Fingolfinnhulloz04:04
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bluefoxicyugh04:05
bluefoxicyprboom ate my display.04:05
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Xappeoh shit, it's 4 am already :/04:06
Fingolfinnmy installation failed to install yaboot, says i need to boot manually. How is that accomplished?04:06
OrbordeSo I'm running 64-bit Ubuntu and, while Firefox works, no plugins work. Argh!04:06
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Fingolfinni know how to get the boot prompt, but don't have a very good idea of what to type in04:07
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awb4422I manually removed /etc/apache2 once i apt-get remove apache2, and when I reinstalled, the /etc/apace2 directory is no longer. is there a way to get this back?04:07
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cafuegoOrborde: yeah, complain to Macromedia and/or sun.04:08
MilkGood evening!04:08
Fingolfinni'm running on an emac, and I installed ubuntu on an external firewire hardrive04:08
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cafuegoOrborde: Or run a 32bit chroot.04:08
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bluefoxicybluefox@icebox:~$ xvidtune04:08
bluefoxicyWarning: Color name "black" is not defined04:08
bluefoxicyPlease install the program before using04:08
bluefoxicyOK i need a way to actually set my resolution back to normal >:|04:08
bluefoxicywithout logging out and logging back in >:|04:08
MilkI was wondering if anyone could guide me through setting up a dual-head card (radeon)04:09
Orbordecafuego, How do I do that?04:09
bluefoxicyoh, got it.04:09
cafuegoOrborde: I expect the wiki has a page on that http://wiki.ubuntu.com04:09
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Milkhas anyone in here done a dual head configuration?04:11
Mez!CoC04:11
ubotuit has been said that coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/04:11
bluefoxicyoh god this sucks cock.04:12
bluefoxicyprboom freezes and then screws up X and it takes fiddling to get it working again.04:12
hardw1rewheres the system log located?04:12
bluefoxicylxdoom has no sound04:12
HrdwrBoBhardw1re: /var/log/syslog04:13
bluefoxicyand the other doomlegacy thing just04:13
bluefoxicyplain04:13
bluefoxicydoesn't work.04:13
HrdwrBoBhardw1re: depends on what you want04:13
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hardw1reyeah found it, wicked i believe my quickcam is installed now04:14
hardw1reug 23 03:12:35 localhost kernel: quickcam: QuickCam USB camera found (driver version QuickCam Messenger/Communicate USB $Date: 2004/12/30 10:00:00 $)04:14
hardw1re:D04:14
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xulMunkeehardw1re, what programs do you use a webcam for?04:14
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FingolfinnHow complicated is it to get ubuntu to boot from my external hardrive if i need to boot manually, what do i need to know?04:15
hardw1rewell, on windows i use it on msn04:15
hardw1reit works :D:D:D:D:D:D im so happy :D04:15
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no-dxargh04:16
no-dxi need a pointer or a url on setting up simple smtp/pop304:16
no-dxit seems like theres nothing online at all04:16
Fingolfinnit's like use the /boot/vmlinux kernel   on the partition /dev/sda3   and root=/dev/sda3 passed as kernel argument04:16
no-dxyet this task is practically automated on every other distro04:16
hardw1rexulMunkee: just a shame there isnt a working version of gaim-w that supports webcam output :(04:17
hardw1reand the cvs of aMSN that does cant seem to get TcK images thingy working :|04:17
Fingolfinncould somebody please try and help me?04:17
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MilkI was wondering if anyone could guide me through setting up a dual-head card (radeon)04:18
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Fingolfinnarg patience isn't a virtue, it's a death sentence04:19
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hardw1reis gnome meeting compatible with net meeting?04:19
chibi_killstickyo, i've got a problem...i forgot my admin password04:19
chibi_killstickis there a way to retrieve it/change it?04:20
Milkchibi - reinstall04:20
alekin ubuntu??04:20
chibi_killstickMilk: seriously? that's all i can do?04:20
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jasoncohenMilk, so you want to setup two monitors in xinerama mode?04:20
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Milkjasoncohen, yes, 2 monitors, 1 big desktop04:21
Milkradeon04:21
EasterSunshinehello everyone! i am having a problem with a mounted smbfs, when the smb server goes offline, the mounted fs messes up, it cannot be unmounted anymore, and it slows down my comp when i want to visit that directory04:21
chibi_killstickmight anyone know a way i could hack into the system and get my admin password?04:21
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jasoncohenMilk, run fglrxconfig and choose the big desktop setting...it should be quite easy to do. make sure you know your monitor specs04:22
EasterSunshinechibi_killstick: if you could do that, linux wouldn't be secure, and linux is pretty damn secure04:22
kevin__where can i get a decoder to play some movie files?04:22
kevin__they are .swf files04:22
chibi_killstick...sigh...04:22
Kyral!flash04:22
uboturumour has it, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:22
chibi_killstickright, here goes for a new install...04:22
EasterSunshinekevin__: swf aren't movie files, they are flash files04:22
chibi_killstickexit04:22
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shadeofgreyhi everybody04:22
jasoncohenchibi_killstick, you don't know your user's password?04:22
Milkjasoncohen, do I need to download/apt-get a driver first?04:22
kevin__ok.. how do i play them?04:22
shadeofgreyis there a way to install mozilla's filezilla application with apt-get?04:23
EasterSunshinekevin__: you may need macromedia's standalone player running on wine04:23
jasoncohenMilk, you'll need to use the fglrx driver04:23
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kevin__Aw man..04:23
Kyralubotu tell kevin__ about flash04:23
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kevin__i know what flash is smart ass.04:23
Kyral....04:23
Kyralwhat?04:23
Milkdoes the fglrx support the radeon 7000?04:23
KyralDid that just backfire?04:23
Milkany idea?04:23
jasoncohenMilk, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI04:23
EasterSunshinekevin__: or you can throw it into an html with the proper tags and view it on your web browser04:23
Kyralhe quit04:23
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EasterSunshinehmm...that's sad cause my second solution was a hell lot better...04:24
Kyraldid I just do something wrong?04:24
jasoncohenMilk, it supports most radeons. i'm not sure if it supports one that old. i have a 9700 pro04:24
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jasoncohenMilk, check out ati's site04:24
Milkwe will see04:24
Milkthats why I have a backup of xorg.conf04:24
Milkhehe04:24
jasoncohenyou should always do a backup of xorg.conf first04:25
Milkhehe04:25
Milkyep04:25
MilkI'm installing the drivers now04:25
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shadeofgreynobody uses filezilla on ubuntu systems?04:25
Jet22k5Hello guys, I just got done building a computer04:25
shadeofgreyi cant imagine life without filezilla04:25
EasterSunshineshadeofgrey: check the repos...if its not there, then feel free to build a deb for us04:25
hardw1retiglionabbit: i got the webcam working mate04:25
Jet22k5and I can't seem to install Linux on it,04:25
Jet22k5Ubuntu rather, it freezes my keyboard04:25
Jet22k5and I can't get past the " Choose your Language " is there a work around?04:26
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shadeofgreyyeah.  download the latest iso and reburn the install disc..  yourss is messed up04:26
Jet22k5errr04:26
timl_or before you do that, run the install in expert mode and choose the menu option which lets you check the disk integrity04:26
shadeofgreyeaster:  where is the repos.list file again?04:26
Jet22k5It is the ones I got from ubuntu04:27
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Jet22k5like the ones that they ship04:27
EasterSunshineshadeofgrey: /etc/apt/sources.list04:27
timl_Jet22k5: right, but it might be a bad burn, or damaged, or something, so the integrity checker will tell you that04:27
EasterSunshineshadeofgrey: filezilla isn't in my set of repos...maybe some other ones may have it04:27
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timl_if it passes the test you can rule out the CD itself and look to other solutions04:27
Jet22k5ok04:27
Jet22k5so I'm booting up right now04:27
timl_so at the first prompt you get, type "expert"04:28
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Milkbrb04:28
Jet22k5ok I hit advance04:28
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Jet22k5hmm I don't see an integrity check04:28
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EasterSunshinei am looking for a way to unmount a smbfs immediately when the smbfs server goes down so it doesn't lock up...anyone?04:29
timl_Jet22k5: "hit advance" ?04:29
Jet22k5nope nvm that froze04:29
tiglionabbithardw1re: you did?  How?04:29
Jet22k5nvm it is back04:29
shadeofgreywhats the extras repo again?04:29
EasterSunshineubotu tell shadeofgrey about repos04:29
apokryphos!hoary-extras04:30
ubotusomebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:30
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kevin__what is the flash player thats stand alone?04:30
kevin__is it on the website?04:30
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EasterSunshinekevin__: i think the standalone player only comes with flash 5, 6, and 7 (mx?)04:30
tiglionabbitthere is no stand alone flash player.  You can emulate the windows one04:30
kevin__Grr..04:30
kevin__How do i emulate it04:30
kevin__i got wine04:30
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hardw1reok04:30
kevin__where do i get the flash player?04:30
tiglionabbitrun it in wine04:31
EasterSunshinekevin__: i had posted a second solution to your problem but you left the chan before, let me repeat it04:31
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kevin__Ok..04:31
EasterSunshinekevin__: or you can throw it into an html with the proper tags and view it on your web browser04:31
Jet22k5nothing there guys ... :(04:31
Milkok...04:31
hardw1retiglionabbit: you need to read the _README_MESSENGER - its extremely straightforward!04:31
kevin__so in order to play this flash i need the actual flash program?04:31
kevin__correct?04:31
Milkthe driver is installed, ran through fglrxconfig, set for big display, still cloning04:31
sorush21im trying to run a configureation of a source and I don't know how to add two enable commands to the same line can someone help.. is this right $# ./configure --enable-mad &&gui04:31
tiglionabbithardw1re: where?04:31
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hardw1rehttp://home.mag.cx/messenger/04:31
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sorush21how can I change form the gnome display manager to the kde displayer manager..04:32
EasterSunshinekevin__: you can play it with only flash-player-mozilla or something like that...that will play it from an html04:32
jsubl2sorush21: sudo  dpkg-reconfigure kdm04:32
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EasterSunshinekevin__: macromedia full flash suite includes a standalone player so you can avoid that trouble04:33
sorush21thanks jsubl204:33
scrofulaanybody have experience configuring squirrelmail?04:33
kevin__full flash suit cost money right?04:33
hardw1retiglionabbit: in the qc-usb-messenger-0.8 dir just type make install, then modprobe videodev, then sudo modprobe quickcam04:33
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TylerEI'm running into an installation issue. System is setup as follows. 1 IDE hd, with a 100gb /boot, 5g /, 5g swap, rest LVM, and 2nd SATA drive, all LVM04:33
TylerEso far so good04:33
TylerEinstall from disk went fine04:33
TylerEwhen I went to boot for the first time, lvm wouldn't mount the volume, the boot fails04:34
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TylerEI'm using the system now04:34
sorush21jsubl2: it didn't work I get this error.  * Reloading K Display Manager configuration...                          [fail]  invoke-rc.d: initscript kdm, action "reload" failed.04:34
TylerEI was able to manually pvscan, vgscan, vgchange -y a and mount /usr04:34
TylerEwhich is what's in the volume group04:34
Milkjasoncohen, It didn't work04:34
TylerEbut the postinstall stuff is all screwed04:34
TylerEbasically I want to just start over04:34
Milkstill only a single monitor with second one cloned04:34
sorush21how can I enable two commands with the ./configure..04:35
TylerEbut I need to know what I need to do to get the LVM stuff to work.04:35
TylerEBasically it seems to be trying to load LVM *before* it pulls the sata drive in04:35
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TylerEI'm not quite sure though04:35
kyle_hello everyone04:35
pw--is there any way i can get root rights outside of a terminal?04:35
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wickedpuppypw--, you can open a program by sudo option04:36
wickedpuppyfor example sudo k3b ...04:36
pw--i know that, but i need to drop file A into folder B04:36
pw--and it says i don't have the rights to access that folder04:36
wickedpuppythen why not just use cp ?04:36
pw--cp?04:36
wickedpuppysudo cp04:36
pw--what does that do?04:37
wickedpuppycopy ...04:37
pw---_-04:37
CookdGryphonlol04:37
wickedpuppyeh ah .. you know the terminal commands right ?04:37
pw--i've been looking for that command..04:37
scrofulapw--: sudo cp file1 file204:37
pw--wickedpuppy, i'm learning a lot every day04:37
kyle_pw: try "sudo nautilus"04:37
scrofulafile1 in the original file, file2 is the destination04:37
Milkcan anyone help me with seting up a dual head card?04:37
CookdGryphonor u could sudo start up ure filemanager04:37
Xapperunning nautilus as root seems dangerous to me04:38
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wickedpuppyagreed04:38
CookdGryphonlike that04:38
CookdGryphonlol04:38
kyle_pw: open two windows like that, then browse to the two folders you want to drag/drop from/to.04:38
TylerEanyone have any ideas for me at all?04:38
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robotgeekMilk: which laptop?04:38
Milknot a laptop04:38
pw--ok, thanks all ^.^04:38
Milkradeon dual head card04:38
scrofulapw--: you should "man cp"04:38
robotgeeksorry, not much experience there04:38
Milkhey.. you can only do what you can:)04:39
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Milkanyone else have experiance with dual-head setups?04:39
scrofulapw--: also, "mv" is similar, but it moves files (deletes the old one.)04:39
wickedpuppyscrofula, he left04:39
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wickedpuppymilk ... there are sites on the net ... i seen one for nvidia ..04:39
scrofulawickedpuppy: duh, I just saw that.04:39
TylerEscrofula: Not true at all. It just changes directory info. (Unless it's between drives, in which case it basically is a cp; rm)04:39
Milkyea.. nvidia has software for it...04:39
MilkATI doesn't.. not relaly04:39
TylerEscrofula: it sounds like a minor point, but when dealing with large files, it's a VERY important distinction04:40
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kyle_Tyler: what was your question?04:40
TylerEkyle_: I'm trying to get sata, lvm, and the post-install conf to play nice04:40
kyle_I don't think I can help you there. :)04:41
TylerEkyle_: basically /etc/init.d/lvm dies during boot, saying it can't find one of the drives, but if I go to the console and manually do the commands to mount the vg, it works fine. but then no post-install conf04:41
sneezymarbleNew to linux...It seems that Linux does not have any 3D support?...I downloaded and installed the nvidia-glx drivers with Synaptic and logged out and then back in again, but there seems to be absolutely no noticable performance gain.  i.e. the 3d screensavers are still a slideshow?...04:42
wickedpuppysneezymarble, what is your glxgears fps ?04:43
hardw1resneezymarble: have you edited the /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:43
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hardw1reand changed the driver for the graphics card from "nv" to "nvidia" ?04:43
Milkhrm... let me be more specific... can anyone help with an ATI Radeon dual head setup04:43
CookdGryphonand removed the lines load "dri" n replaced with load "glx"04:44
CookdGryphonoh and remove load "GLcore" too04:44
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sneezymarbleNo, I havn't done that.  I'll check glxgears real quick....04:44
LaserJockto start with you can also do "nvidia-glx-config enable"04:44
wickedpuppyits all in readme ...04:44
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kyle_I have a question (if anyone can help). "855resolution" is in the ubuntu universe here: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/8/855resolution/ . However, I can't find it with apt-get (even though us.archive.ubuntu.com is in my sources.list). Shouldn't everything in the pool be available from the source?04:46
CookdGryphonerm, help! i am compiling mplayer from source, do't ask y, jsut accept it, lol, and i have set the enable gui option but it says it needs the XFree86 dev files to run.. which packages do i need? cos i looked on synaptic for XFree86-dev or something and couldn't' find anything04:46
sneezymarbleI'm getting about 18 Fps in "Gears".  This system has a Geforce6800GT in it?...04:47
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LaserJocksneezymarble: do "nividia-glx-config enable" in a terminal04:48
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sneezymarbleIt tells me X needs to be restarted.  How do I do that?04:49
MaDsKiLLzhmm04:49
MaDsKiLLzis there java support in breezy?04:49
LaserJocklog out and hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace04:49
robotgeeksneezymarble: you would probably have to close all windows!04:49
CookdGryphonsneezymarble: ctrl+alt+backsp04:49
robotgeek:)04:50
MaDsKiLLzatm i cant find a jr2 package04:50
MaDsKiLLzjre*04:50
pskalumetI'm trying to do a full system backup; I tried doing a simple tar command to backup to an external USB drive, but my computer shuts off partway through, and I don't think it finishes because the archive appears to be too small..any help?04:50
wickedpuppysneezymarble, FYI i get 3500 fps in glxgears04:50
sneezymarbleI tried that the other day and my screen went black and I couldnt get it back?04:50
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wickedpuppymine is Fx550004:50
CookdGryphongo to www.java.com n download the the self extracting file from there MaDsKiLLz04:50
LaserJockMaDsKiLLz: I think that I used the jre package from Hoary backports04:50
durtmadskillz: google hoary extras04:50
MaDsKiLLzk04:50
LaserJockIt's probably not the best way to do it but it works04:50
MaDsKiLLzyea i guess04:51
CookdGryphonsneezymarble: press ctrl alt + f1 in that case, log in and type startx04:51
Luna-TickHello again everyone :)04:51
jsubl2!hoary-extras04:51
ubotuI guess hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:51
hardw1reok, i just installed a new version of glib, the 2.8, how do i remove the 2.6 version &/or edit the library path? :S04:51
sneezymarbleok i'll give it a try04:51
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MaDsKiLLzhow does apt handle things where i have two conflicting packages04:51
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MaDsKiLLzlike if i have hoary and breezy apt mirrors installed04:51
MaDsKiLLz(please forgive me im new to ubuntu im usually a gentoo user ;p)04:52
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Luna-TickI believe that it uses the highest version number04:52
kyle_mad: Probably will take the newest version of every package. However, it's not a good idea to have both mirrors installed because sometimes there are incompatibilities.04:53
Luna-TickSo it will use the Breezy packages04:53
wickedpuppyMaDsKiLLz, after using gentoo you should find ubuntu a breeze04:53
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kyle_heh, yeah. Why do you even bother asking after using gentoo? Who cares what will happen? Let it crash and burn, baby. ;)04:54
Luna-TickDoes anyone here know anything about Gaim04:54
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jtan325Luna-Tick, what do you want to know?04:54
Luna-Tickesp Gaim with Silc?04:54
jtan325sorry, never heard of Silc04:54
blaylockanybody here play call of duty on ps2?04:54
Milkhrm... let me be more specific... can anyone help with an ATI Radeon dual head setup04:54
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wickedpuppyMilk, i guess no ... i see you asking this a few times already ...04:55
scrofulaMilk: I wish I could help you.04:55
Luna-TickThanks anyway Jtan... Silc is the secure protocol of choice for anyone paranoid ;)04:55
MilkI'm hoping I will catch someone new04:55
Milkhehe04:55
Milk:)04:55
pskalumetsorry, don't mean to bug folks again, but does anyone have a good way to do a full system backup? I tried the tar command as outlined in the forums, but my computer shuts off partway through..thanks in advance :)04:55
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ero-senniI would like to create a program for gnome, I am looking for a Compiler, I would perfer something like microsoft visual studio but for linux?04:56
ero-senniis there a such thing?04:56
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kyle_psk: boot the live cd, then use the tar command on the nonrunning OS.04:56
wickedpuppyero-senni, try emacs ... :P04:56
ero-senniwill do!04:56
jtan325yay emacs04:56
Luna-Tickero - I heard something about kdevelop or something04:56
Ex-Cyberhow can I stop DHCP from overwriting my /etc/resolv.conf?04:56
durtero-senni: you mean and ide?04:56
kyle_so is anyone here very knowledgable about respositories?04:56
hyphenatedero-senni: have a look at the way other gnome programs are developed04:57
ero-senniyea an ide04:57
jtan325ero-senni, i think you should try04:57
jtan325anjuta04:57
jtan325or kdevelop04:57
wickedpuppyoh anjuta for you04:57
wickedpuppyyup04:57
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devilxHi04:57
jtan325they're no where near as awesome as eclipse04:57
durtscite is all-around good04:57
jtan325but they're faster04:57
ero-senniim gonna create a unrar frontend04:57
ero-senniunrar-non free04:57
ero-senni:-04:57
devilxCan someone please give me a ubuntu deb with python2.3-glade2?04:57
devilxeh, I mean, python2.404:57
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wickedpuppydevilx, it should be in synaptic04:58
devilxwickedpuppy, I'm using debian04:58
devilxI need the deb.04:58
Milkis there a graphical FTP client for ubuntu?04:58
wickedpuppyubuntu uses deb too04:58
ero-sennigfp04:58
ero-sennigftp04:58
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Milkthanks04:58
Luna-TickMilk: click places > Connect to server04:58
devilxwickedpuppy, I know, but I don't want to mix my sources. Can you please give me a http download?04:58
Milkfantastic luna!04:59
Luna-Ticknp :)04:59
wickedpuppyyou want us to do a search in google and give you back ?04:59
devilxwickedpuppy, I searched myself, hardly found python2.4-gtk2 but didn't find python2.4-glade2.04:59
devilxI spent now 59 minutes with searching05:00
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devilxalso I searched on archive.ubuntu.org05:00
Luna-TickJust to have my general rant, and please feel free to comment, I don't get it; silc support has been part of the standard Gaim package since 0.79 but it isn't in the Ubuntu version. But because it is a part of the main version, not a plugin, it isn't available like that either :(. Growl...05:00
kyle_luna: why do you have to use the ubuntu version?05:00
durtdevilx: this? http://packages.debian.org/stable/python/python-glade205:01
Luna-TickBecause there isn't a deb05:01
Fingolfinnwhat precious sequence must i type in at boot prompt to get ubuntu to boot?05:01
Luna-TickLOL05:01
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devilxdurt, nope. python2.4-glade205:01
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Milkhave you tried just enter Fingolfinn.. for default?05:01
Fingolfinnhelp us obi-wan, you're our only hope05:01
P8ntKidCan anybody help me with something05:01
wickedpuppyyou sure there i 2.4-glade2 ?05:01
scrofularegeya: squirrelmail -- I understand that to build it from source, I'd unpack the tarball in e.g. /var/www (on my system, the DocumentRoot is actually /home/foo/public_html, but you get the idea.) However, I just installed it using apt-get, and it put files in /etc/squirrelmail and /usr/share/squirrelmail but none in my DocumentRoot. What am I to do -- make a symlink or something?05:01
Fingolfinnthat's not my conundrum unfortunately milk05:01
P8ntKidCan anybody help me with a video problem i have05:01
Milkwhat is Fingo?05:02
Luna-TickWe'll try p8nt.05:02
nickruddevilx, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/python/python2.4-glade205:02
wickedpuppythere is ...05:02
Fingolfinnsee, it's an external hardrive, and it's telling me "fuck you, I won't boot"05:02
devilxwickedpuppy, yes05:02
scrofulaoops, s/regeya/regarding05:02
devilxnickrud, thanks a lot!05:02
Fingolfinnunless i boot it manually05:02
wickedpuppynickrud, got it for ya :P05:02
Fingolfinn... somehow05:02
P8ntKidOk, i have an IBM A30 laptop. Everything boots good, xserver boots. But, te screen looks alll weird.05:02
Milknot really descriptive...05:02
Milkwhat error is it giving you?05:02
Fingolfinn... with a magical sequence of characters05:02
P8ntKidIts not giving me an error though05:03
Fingolfinnoh yaboot failed to install05:03
Fingolfinnyou must boot manually05:03
scrofulaFingolfinn: yaboot -- this is on PPC?05:03
Milkand it gives you a boot:05:03
Luna-TickHow is it weird, p8nt?05:03
Fingolfinnyes05:03
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FingolfinnPPC05:03
P8ntKidLike, all the windows arent showing right, they all are blurred out by other windows.05:03
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Fingolfinnget some windex05:04
Fingolfinnand a squeegee05:04
Fingolfinn:D05:04
P8ntKidIts hard to explain. Like, The gnomer aplications bar doesn show up till i like click on it. Just things like that.05:04
P8ntKidGnome*05:04
Ex-Cyberhow is dhclient invoked in hoary?05:04
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scrofulaFingolfinn: hmm. If yaboot did not install you might want to boot off the liveCD05:05
scrofulaFingolfinn: and poke around to see how you can get yaboot on there05:05
no-dxi need a pointer or a url on setting up simple smtp/pop305:05
no-dxit seems like theres nothing online at all05:05
robotgeekFingolfinn: does mac support booting from usb, i think yes ?05:05
no-dxyet this task is practically automated on every other distro05:05
FingolfinnI'm not sure05:05
scrofulaFingolfinn: but one thing's for sure, you can't boot without a bootloader.05:05
FingolfinnI know it supports booting from firewire05:05
P8ntKidCan anybody help?05:05
Ex-Cyberit doesn't seem to be in any of the init scripts05:06
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Fingolfinnso can i find this bootloader at a payless shoe store?05:06
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kyle_ex: did you read the init scripts? possibly "networking"?05:06
windexFingolfinn, i thought someone wanted me. :( my life, it's all a lie!05:06
jasoncohenno-dx, you want to crate an smtp/pop3 server or you want to check your mail?05:06
Fingolfinnlol05:06
Fingolfinnpoor windex05:06
hardw1redoes anyone know how to install TkCximage for the aMSN cvs?05:06
no-dxsmtp/pop3 server05:06
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no-dxfor my domain05:06
P8ntKidGawd.05:06
Luna-TickSorry - p8nt - I've never seen that05:06
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Fingolfinn*pats windex*05:06
Milkanyone up to helping me get my XP box to see a printer here on my ubuntu box?05:06
no-dxa task easy on slackware or anything non gentoo/bsd05:06
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scrofulaFingolfinn: no, no! yaboot is your bootloader, it's a lot like lilo or grub05:07
no-dxmilk... look at cups05:07
P8ntKidWell, i have fluxbox installed, i just dont know how to run it.05:07
scrofulaFingolfinn: no, no! yaboot = "Yet Another BOOTloader"05:07
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jasoncohenno-dx, well, you can use postfix or exim. there are howtos online05:07
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Milkno-dx, I've checked out cups, and samba, configured in webmin.. but I'm not working right somwhere05:07
scrofulaFingolfinn: yaboot is the one for PPC.05:07
durtmilk, you might need to install the UNIX printing utilities on your XP machine from the CD05:08
no-dxthere are no howtos for postfix and ubuntu05:08
Fingolfinnthere are some rather tricky instructions on how to boot on an external firewire hardrive05:08
jasoncohenMilk, you'll want to share the printer with CUPS on windows and then add05:08
no-dxor exim05:08
no-dxand postfix is just an MTA05:08
JslHow do i like kill  a program?05:08
JslIt crashed....05:08
robotgeekFingolfinn: did yaboot not bless your hdd with linux pee?05:08
P8ntKidDoes anybody know how to run fluxbox? I just installed it but i forgot how to run it :(05:08
no-dxps -aux, kill -9 *05:08
Fingolfinnhmmmmm05:08
scrofulaFingolfinn: sorry about the double no-nos above05:08
Luna-Tickjsl05:08
Milkyou lost me there jasoncohen05:08
jasoncohen*and then enable "detect LAN printers" in System > Administration > printing05:08
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robotgeekP8ntKid: man fluxbox05:08
Fingolfinnno worries05:08
Luna-Tickjsl: apps > system > System monitor05:08
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FingolfinnIt smells like i'm up shit creek without a paddle05:09
JslXMMS keeps crashing...05:09
no-dx...05:09
camus_i can post in pt-br?05:09
Milkjasoncohen I think you have it backwards, the printer is attached to the ubuntu machine.. I want to print FROM the xp box05:09
JslI need a good mp3 player that is'nt so messed up.05:09
no-dxbeep mediaplayer05:09
p1astiki have sound in ubuntu GUI but when i try to play mp3s from my NTFS drive, it plays but there's no sound05:09
jasoncohenno-dx, you don't have to find one for ubuntu. anything for debian will be nearly identical on ubuntu if not identical05:09
no-dxplastik.. beep media player05:10
scrofulaP8ntKid My favorite way to pick a WM is to kill the desktop manager (GDM, KDM, what have you) and type "startx" from the command line. That way, you specify your window manager in the .xsession file. Fluxbox is nice.05:10
camus_algum usurio pt-br a?05:10
jasoncohenno-dx, and i know there are howtos for debian for exim for smtp & pop05:10
no-dxjasoncohen.. yeh except ubuntu uses apt-get not emerge05:10
no-dx...05:10
kyle_luna: when apt-get fetches the source lists (when you type "apt-get update") where does it fetch them to?05:10
hardw1rewhats wrong with xmms?05:10
JslCrashing05:10
jasoncohenno-dx, i said debian- NOT gentoo05:10
Fingolfinnoh well05:10
no-dxkyle ... /etc/apt/....05:10
scrofulaFingolfinn: don't give up. You are trying to boot from an external USB drive -- is it called /dev/sda1 on your system?05:10
jasoncohenno-dx, ubuntu is based off of debian05:10
Fingolfinni'm just gonna play the monkey game and just push a bunch of random buttons05:10
durtmine used to crash too... i forget how i fixed it...05:10
no-dxduh05:10
Fingolfinnsda305:11
Luna-Tickkyle_: Why me :D?05:11
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Ex-Cyberhow can I find out which process launched a particular process?05:11
scrofulaFingolfinn: because you'll need to tell yaboot that it's trying to boot off /dev/sda105:11
JslHow do i get beep mediaplayer05:11
kyle_luna: because you seem like you might know what you're talking about. :)05:11
Jslsudo apt-get beep mediaplayer05:11
Jsl?05:11
Luna-TickI can05:12
jasoncohenMilk, oh sorry. that's easy. you just have to add the printer in windows using the CUPS  URI05:12
scrofulaFingolfinn: Do you get a yaboot boot prompt, but then it doesn't find the kernel?05:12
kyle_no-dx: where in /etc/apt/ ? I don't see any such files in there.05:12
no-dxsudo apt-get install beep-media-player05:12
Luna-Tickassure you that I don't!... I'm having a look though,05:12
scrofulaFingolfinn: or just no boot prompt at all?05:12
jasoncohenMilk, i.e "ipp://serverip:631/printers/PrinterName05:12
no-dx /etc/apt/sources.list05:12
Milkjasoncohen, can you be a little more detailed05:12
nickrudkyle_, they go to /var/lib/apt/lists05:12
Milkthat in windows?05:12
jasoncohenMilk, for me that is "ipp://jasonsdesktop:631/printers/Stylus-C84"05:12
kyle_nick: thank you very much05:12
JslIs there like a list of stuff i can apt-get?05:13
jasoncohenMilk, you add the printer using the URI in xp05:13
no-dxgoogle for ubuntu packages05:13
MilkURI?05:13
Luna-Tickjsl: are you in Ubuntu?05:13
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p1astikJsl: check your apt-cache or there's always synaptic05:13
JslYes...05:13
EasterSunshine!info nautilus05:13
ubotunautilus: (file manager and graphical shell for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.0-0ubuntu9 (hoary), Packaged size: 799 kB, Installed size: 2588 kB05:13
Milk!URI05:13
ubotuMilk: I don't know, could you explain it?05:13
Luna-TickSystem > Admin > Synaptic05:13
kyle_nick: I have another question about apt-get, can I ask you?05:13
Fingolfinnscrofula: i don't get anything, it boots into mac os x05:14
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bimberiMilk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP05:14
no-dxanyways...05:14
no-dxsimple pop3/smtp05:14
no-dxdoesnt really exist under ubuntu does it?05:14
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RabidDogAnyone awhere there is a problem this link on the support page on ubuntu site "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/"05:14
RabidDogAnd this one too05:14
EasterSunshinewould nautilus be holding onto a mounted folder in such a way that i cannot unmount it?05:14
wickedpuppyno-dx, pop3 smtp server or client ?05:15
RabidDoghttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/Security05:15
scrofulaFingolfinn: have you looked for docs on installing a dual-boot system on Mac OSX? I have done it a zillion times on PC hardware, but it's different.05:15
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no-dxserver05:15
RabidDogwhich is the security page05:15
Luna-TickWhat is the prob?05:15
Fingolfinnit has to be dual-05:15
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Fingolfinnboot?05:15
RabidDogget key errors05:15
JslOMFG!!!!!05:15
Fingolfinnoh05:15
Fingolfinnokay05:15
JslSo much stuff for ubuntu05:15
Luna-Tickyes jsl?05:15
Jslin synaptic05:15
Luna-TickLOL05:15
Fingolfinnso no matter what, i'm gonna be getting into some voodoo stuff05:15
wickedpuppyno-dx, have you tried sunaptic ?05:15
wickedpuppysynaptic05:15
scrofulaFingolfinn: it's not voodoo.05:16
no-dxits a server box with no gui05:16
Jslsynaptic has so much in it....05:16
no-dxhence "mail server"05:16
Jsl*Is scared of all the stuff to get*05:16
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no-dxsorry05:16
FingolfinnI don't believe in voodoo, i meant hardcore technical05:16
no-dxim just tired of people thinking they know what they are talking about05:16
wickedpuppyno-dx, i just search smtp and i got so much packages in it05:16
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scrofulaFingolfinn: I'll explain in terms of a Windows dual-boot.05:16
no-dxi do have a ubuntu gnome box..05:16
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RabidDogAnyone awhere there is a problem this link on the support page on ubuntu site "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/" and this one too "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/Security" Is the developers already awhere of it?05:17
RabidDoggetting key errors05:17
p1astiki have a small problem in which i only have Esound able to work, but not ALSA. ideas?05:17
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scrofulaFingolfinn: You'd defrag the drive, then repartition it so that there's a partition for Ubuntu in the free space on the HD. Then you'd install Ubuntu in the new partition and yaboot in the MBR.05:18
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Fingolfinnyaboot installs on the smaller partition?05:18
citrusfizzwhen does the final release of breezy come out?05:18
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Luna-TickCitrus Oct05:19
Luna-Tick17?05:19
wickedpuppynot smaller partition.. on MBR05:19
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Milkjasoncohen, that didn't work05:19
no-dxsimple pop3/smtp anyone?05:19
Fingolfinnwhas MBR?05:19
scrofulaFingolfinn: it can't be that hard.05:19
wickedpuppyMaster Boot Record05:19
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scrofulaMBR = Master Boot Record.05:19
wickedpuppyno-dx, have you searched in synaptic ?05:19
Fingolfinnwoah05:20
scrofulaFingolfinn: that's where you want yaboot to live.05:20
durtquestion: why when i close my laptop lid, does the backlight stay on, but when i open it, it shuts off momentarily and then turns on again?05:20
Fingolfinnokay05:20
no-dxagain wicked puppy... its a console server05:20
wickedpuppysheesh05:20
Fingolfinnin related techy terms, whats the difference between a hardline and a softline?05:20
wickedpuppyno-dx there are damn lots of server packages in synaptic05:20
wickedpuppychoose one05:20
syxhi, quick question, whats the command that tells me what kernel version i am running ?05:20
durtsyx: `uname -r`05:21
scrofulaFingolfinn: Then, when you turn the box on,yaboot will come up with a menu of different operating systems to boot. One will be Ubuntu, the other will be Mac OSX.05:21
syxthanks for that05:21
JslQuestion...05:21
Fingolfinnreally...05:21
Luna-Tick?05:21
JslWill kde stuff work on Gnome?05:21
FingolfinnI have 11 operating systems to choose from05:21
Luna-TickJsl: yes05:21
wickedpuppyJsl, yes ... i am running k3b now05:21
JslGood05:21
wickedpuppy11 ? ...05:21
scrofulaFingolfinn: but if you don't install yaboot in your MBR, it will never offer you that choice.05:21
JslI saw so much kde stuff05:22
Fingolfinnyeah, i'm pretty sloppy05:22
Luna-Tickjsl: it just loads up extra stuff when you install  / run the programme05:22
Fingolfinnall mac OS's05:22
scrofulaFingolfinn: what do you mean?05:22
JslUsed to use Kde back when i had mandrake...That stunk05:22
wickedpuppyyou got 10 versions of mac OS ?05:22
durtjsl: you can install kde if you want05:22
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scrofulaFingolfinn: eleven different versions of Mac OS?05:22
JslNo05:22
p1astiki have a small problem in which i only have Esound able to work, but not ALSA. ideas?05:22
Fingolfinn10.4.2, 10.3.8, 10.1.2, OS 9, OS 9, OS 9, OS 9, OS 905:22
JslI like gnome05:22
JslEven though when i had Kde i liked it more than gnome05:23
wickedpuppy5 OS 9 ?05:23
JslBut like it now.05:23
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Fingolfinnlol yeah05:23
Luna-TickAnyway, people, I must be of. Have fun with all this05:23
FingolfinnI've deleted a few05:23
durtplastik: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206305:23
scrofulaOkay, when you see that list, is that in yaboot or your OSX login?05:23
wickedpuppyFingolfinn, may i ask why you want to torture yourself ?05:23
p1astikdurt: thanks05:23
FingolfinnI'm prone to making things more complicated then they need to be05:23
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jayparadisei wonder why the hell dns is failing after like 20 mins i restart the modem05:23
scrofulaFingolfinn: you'll know because if it's pretty, it's the OSX login, but if it's ugly it's yaboot.05:24
jayparadiseis this a known problem"? i just installed ubuntu today05:24
Fingolfinnso i'm incredibly good at documenting code05:24
scrofulaFingolfinn: foul! non sequitur!05:24
wickedpuppyjayparadise, what errors you getting ?05:24
jayparadisecan someone tell me an ip address for like google.com or something05:24
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viperhi again05:24
EasterSunshinejayparadise: `host google.com`05:24
jayparadisewell all web browsers fail and ping google.com does too05:25
Fingolfinnouch that hurts man05:25
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viperjust to let u know: i got xmms to work05:25
jayparadiseyea the ping nailed it05:25
jayparadiseits dns05:25
scrofulaFingolfinn: I thought you were talking about a boot menu05:25
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wickedpuppyjayparadise, 216.239.39.9905:25
scrofulaFingolfinn: do you remember that?05:25
wickedpuppyactually /dns google.com will do ... in irc05:25
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jayparadisethanks least i can go to that ip now lol05:25
Fingolfinnsorry, i didn't mean to jog along your train of thought falsely05:25
durtviper: did you get your printer working?05:25
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jayparadisei get a reply from it too05:25
jayparadisehm05:25
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FingolfinnI have a fear05:26
FingolfinnThat i'll need to know the firmware address of the boot drive05:26
scrofulaFingolfinn: so you say there's a list of eleven different Mac OS versions at boot time.05:26
viperdurt: no :(05:26
EasterSunshinejayparadise: google.com is 216.239.x.99 for x in (37,39,57)05:26
EasterSunshinejayparadise: that should be commited to memory05:26
Fingolfinnyep05:26
viperdurt: no driver for it, nothing close to it05:26
Fingolfinnsome of them are duplicates05:26
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Fingolfinnit's really of no consequence05:26
regeya_LOL - JSON (JavaScript Object Notation) has a LICENSE.05:26
FingolfinnI think i'll just try a bit of stuff05:27
viperdurt: buts its okay, ill just use xp to print05:27
scrofulaFingolfinn: what does that menu look like? I'm trying to determine if yaboot is installed, but just misconfigured05:27
robotgeekis it possible to network install ubuntu?05:27
Fingolfinnand if it doesn't work05:27
jhallHello.  Can anyone help me with this problem.  I am new to LInux and I am opening "Application installer" and I get a spinning ball of death(Nothing loads)05:27
Fingolfinnmosey on back here05:27
crimsunrobotgeek: absolutely05:27
Spermie Im having a problem05:27
EasterSunshinejayparadise: and googles hosts all have different ips also, about three of them each05:27
viperdurt: can u help me with something else?05:27
robotgeekcrimsun: link please?05:27
durtviper: k - what?05:27
crimsunrobotgeek: search the wiki for netboot05:27
vipersetting up Wine05:27
robotgeekmy friends cdrom is messed up..okay..thanks...will do05:27
scrofulaFingolfinn: what does it look like?05:27
Fingolfinnoh05:27
Fingolfinnmenu05:27
scrofulaFingolfinn: the menu05:27
FingolfinnI haven't gotten to any foreign looking menu05:28
p1astikdurt: question about the link?05:28
Fingolfinnat startup time05:28
Spermiei have a ati in my laptop but the  ati fglrx drivers dont wanna work for me, anyway around this?05:28
Milkgrr.. why won't it work!05:28
scrofulaFingolfinn: okay, so it's not yaboot.05:28
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Fingolfinnit flat out told me yaboot failed to install05:28
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Fingolfinnand to boot manually05:28
smudo!upgrade05:28
ubotufrom memory, upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"05:28
scrofulaFingolfinn: yaboot is plain text on a black background.05:28
FingolfinnI know how to get the boot prompt05:28
Fingolfinnbut what do I type in!05:28
psuraniguys, from where can i learn abt ubuntu totally ?? i mean where is documentation part of ubuntu located ?05:29
scrofulaFingolfinn: you can get to the boot prompt! great!05:29
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EasterSunshineshould we update ubotu to tell s/hoary/breezy instad?05:29
durtplastik: yes?05:29
scrofulaFingolfinn: read the yaboot docs online05:29
JslI [Insert Heart Icon Here]  Linux :p Ubuntu is so much better then Mandrake and has a Irc channel and forums for support and also is better in so many ways05:29
smudoEasterSunshine:  might be a good idea, or do update and bupdate or something like that05:29
p1astikdurt: apparently i have to change the gstreamer properties....how do i go about that?05:29
Fingolfinnum okay, but not the boot prompt for yaboot05:29
crimsunJsl: use "<3"05:29
wickedpuppyJsl, mandrake also got irc channel ...05:29
Fingolfinnthe boot prompt to prompt a boot prompt05:29
Fingolfinnlol05:29
jayparadiseok /etc/init.d/networking restart;ifconfig <ip> eth0; ifup <ip> eth0 is what i just did and that tellls me more about the issue05:29
wickedpuppywait mandriva05:30
JslNever found it when i used it...05:30
JslOh well05:30
aruJsl: we pride ourselves on being normal people05:30
viperplastik: whats ur problem, just curius05:30
jayparadiseit apperently isn't talking to my dhcp correctly, it gets the lease time screwed up05:30
scrofulaFingolfinn: hmm, i'm getting confused05:30
aru:)05:30
Fingolfinnokay i'm gonna go and try some shit05:30
Fingolfinnbrb05:30
p1astikviper: i was able to play mp3s through Esound and not ALSA05:30
jayparadiseso what dhcp client does ubuntu use as default?05:30
EasterSunshine!ubotu upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:30
ubotuokay, EasterSunshine05:30
smudoEasterSunshine:  Or if they're smart enough to use a beta version of the OS, they'll figure that part out.  =-)05:30
JslMy sound aint working...05:30
crimsunjayparadise: dhclient05:30
wickedpuppyjayparadise, it uses dhclient05:30
crimsunJsl: cat /proc/asound/modules05:30
durtplastik: system>prefs>multimedia selector05:31
wickedpuppynot dhcpcd... unfortunately05:31
JslUm...05:31
p1astikdurt: thanks05:31
JslIn terminal?05:31
aruJsl: do you have a sound when you start ubuntu?05:31
crimsunJsl: yes05:31
JslNo05:31
viperi get a message too05:31
JslNever had sound after switch from windows05:31
Jsl*Used to listen to music*05:31
aruJsl: then your problem is beyond my reach :)05:31
viperi guess ALSA cant work with mp3's05:31
durtok - so how many of you are having sound problems?05:31
vipertry another format, see if it plays05:31
JslI had it before linux05:32
wickedpuppynot me05:32
JslBut now it no working05:32
crimsunviper: ALSA has nothing to do with mp3s.05:32
vipercrisun: okay05:32
wickedpuppyviper .. you got the codec right ?05:32
durthttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206305:32
EasterSunshinethe only problem i ever had with sound could be fixed by going into alsamixer05:32
durtalsaconf and alsamixer05:32
doogluswhen I look in Network -> Windows Network, I don't see anything.  I think I must not have my "windows workgroup" set - any idea where I should set it?05:32
viperfor mp3's?05:32
wickedpuppyyup05:33
crimsunviper: if you're using Music Player, make sure you have the 'gstreamer0.8-mad' package installed.05:33
viperyea05:33
viperim using xmms05:33
crimsunviper: are you using the default Ubuntu sound configuration?05:33
crimsunJsl: (still waiting)05:33
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viperyea05:33
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crimsunviper: in XMMS's output plugin preferences, are you using Esound or OSS?05:34
vipereSound05:34
JslCrismun > 0 snd_intel8x005:34
hardw1refinally got the cvs of aMSN to run05:35
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crimsunJsl: please use paste.ubuntulinux.nl to paste the output from amixer05:35
viperOSS makes xmms freeze for me05:35
Spermiei have a ati in my laptop but the  ati fglrx drivers dont wanna work for me, anyway around this?05:35
Spermieopps05:35
reneroya_anyone here have sound working in gxmame?05:35
reneroya_xmame works fine with esound05:35
crimsunviper: please install 'mpg321' and try playing an mp305:35
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smudo!upgrade05:35
ubotusomebody said upgrade was "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"05:35
reneroya_but gxmame um...doesnt05:35
hajaIs there anyway to get my side mouse buttons to react as back/forward in Firefox?05:35
JslUmm...05:35
JslWhat do i type?05:36
crimsunJsl: amixer05:36
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rsosbornHello05:36
vipercrimsun: using OSS?05:36
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JslSimple mixer control 'Master',005:36
Jsl  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined05:36
Jsl  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right05:36
Jsl  Limits: Playback 0 - 6305:36
Jsl  Front Left: Playback 44 [70%]  [on] 05:36
Jsl  Front Right: Playback 44 [70%]  [on] 05:36
rsosbornI'm hoping someone can give me a little help05:36
wickedpuppyno no05:36
JslSimple mixer control 'Master Mono',005:36
wickedpuppydon't paste here05:36
Jsl  Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined05:36
Jsl  Playback channels: Mono05:36
Jsl  Limits: Playback 0 - 3105:36
wickedpuppyheck05:36
rsosbornI'm using Azureus for some reason it will not connect anymore05:36
Jsl  Mono: Playback 0 [0%]  [off] 05:36
JslSimple mixer control 'Headphone',005:36
durtuh-oh05:36
Jsl  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined05:36
rsosbornI think maybe be something with port05:36
Jsl  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right05:36
Jsl  Limits: Playback 0 - 6305:37
rsosbornany ideas05:37
Jsl  Front Left: Playback 47 [75%]  [on] 05:37
wickedpuppyjsl ... STOP05:37
Jsl  Front Right: Playback 47 [75%]  [on] 05:37
JslSimple mixer control '3D Control - Center',005:37
Jsl  Capabilities: volume volume-joined05:37
Jsl  Playback channels: Mono05:37
wickedpuppyoh boy05:37
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wickedpuppythanks crimsun05:37
vipercrimsun: install mpg321 and listen to a mp3 with OSS output?05:37
crimsunJsl: please paste on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl as I asked. Thanks.05:37
wickedpuppyjsl pls paste in paste.ubuntulinux.nl and give us the url05:37
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vipercrimsun: are u gonna answer anytime today?05:38
crimsunviper: sec, please.05:38
viperk05:38
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crimsunviper: by default, mpg321 uses libao's configuration, which defaults to esd05:39
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viperwhats esd?05:39
doogluswhen I look in Network -> Windows Network, I don't see anything.  I think I must not have my "windows workgroup" set - any idea where I should set it?05:39
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jhallcan anyone help me with a nubie problem05:39
crimsunviper: "esound"05:39
Jslhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/152605:39
viperdooglus: check the guide05:39
JslThats it05:40
hardw1reis there anyone here i can add to on msn so then i can test out aMSN's webcam support???05:40
dooglusviper: where's the guide?05:40
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smudojhall:  what's the problem?05:40
viperthere is a place where it says change domain/workgroup05:40
dooglusviper: what is that place?05:40
vipergoogle  ubuntu unofficail staters guide05:40
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crimsunJsl: please execute this in a Terminal: amixer sset 'Headphone' off05:40
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jhallthank you.  I get a spinning ball when I open Add/Remove Programs.  Nothing loads05:40
dooglusviper: Your search - "ubuntu unofficail staters guide" - did not match any documents.05:40
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NoHopehello all05:41
paxdooglus: what do you need the guide for?05:41
viperhere u go05:41
viperhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#changecomputerdomainworkgroup05:41
pestilence!guide05:41
cafuegodooglus: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf05:41
ubotuit has been said that guide is Kubuntu Guide: http://kudos.berlios.de05:41
pestilence!ubuntuguide05:41
ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned05:41
doogluspax, I'm trying to see windows shares in ubuntu.  I see nothing.05:41
dooglusI'm wondering if there's a "ubuntu" way of telling it what workgroup to use.05:41
viperdoog: http://ubuntuguide.org/#changecomputerdomainworkgroup05:41
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paxdooglus: using samba?05:42
wickedpuppyjhall, mine doesn't load either .. use synaptic instead05:42
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viperdurt or anyone else: can you please help me set up WineHQ?05:42
Jslcrimsun > http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/152705:42
jhallOh are they the same thing?05:42
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doogluspax, using the 'places' menu, then 'network servers', then 'windows networking'05:42
wickedpuppyjhall, nope ... i don't think so05:43
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BTJusticeAnyone know where Kontact stores identities at (not e-mail send & receive accounts)?05:43
cafuegodooglus: Perhaps, but all that does it edit /etc/samba/smb.conf (maybe via a frontend) so you may as well do it with a text editor and be done with it05:43
crimsunJsl: good. Now can you hear anything?05:43
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NoHopehey, when Ubuntu Breezy be released, can I apt-get upgrade only, or it's necessary to overwrite current installation?05:43
Jsl*tests*05:43
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trans_errNoHope: you should be able to apt-get dist-upgrade05:43
paxdooglus: what cafugo said. if you want a frontend for smb, try SWAT.05:44
jhallI let it load for a long time but I don't even see any hard drive action05:44
pax!swat05:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html05:44
NoHopetrans__err, oh, it's so good. thank you.05:44
durtviper: haven't wine, but maybe ill do that now05:44
viperokay :)05:44
wickedpuppyjhall, most people use synaptic ... have you tried it ?05:44
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cafuegoswat is a greatw ay of spending 10 minutes on a job you can do in 15 seconds05:44
jhallYes, the one under System?05:45
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viperdurt: http://www.winehq.com/  :)05:45
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wickedpuppyjhall, yes ...05:45
durtviper: just use synaptic05:45
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viperive installed it05:45
dooglusseems like setting the workgroup is something common enough that users shouldn't be expected to edit a text file manually, don't you think?05:45
wickedpuppysystem -> administration -->synaptic05:45
dooglusI'll try it though.05:45
dooglusthanks.05:45
durtoh05:45
viperdurt: can you tell me how to use it in a way05:46
adoyretsamonsorry about that ... permissons were wrong on the xchat folder05:46
durtviper: i dont know yet ;)05:46
vipereverytime i run something with it i get errors05:46
Jslcrimsum > Beep Crashed when i pushed play... (  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i1528   )05:46
viperoh right, u havent used it b405:46
jhallIf they show the same apps then I have no problem with synaptic.  I just thought that the Add/remove showed different apps05:46
adoyretsamonbreezy is too nice05:46
adoyretsamon=)05:46
J5aliveHello all. I'm having some trouble with booting up with the Live CD of Ubuntu. I'm sure I have the right cd (AMD64), and I also tried the acpi=off (someone told me to try that), but to no avail...would anyone be willing to help me out? =)05:46
EasterSunshinei wish i could pipe cat to write things onto my arm05:46
adoyretsamonhehe05:46
wickedpuppyjhall, in synaptic go to Status ... there you can find installed apps05:47
adoyretsamonEasterSunshine, no monitor needed... yea05:47
wickedpuppyadd/remove apps is lame if you ask me ... nothing more than a windowz clone05:47
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J5aliveIt freezes after the login sound, right at the rectangle logo05:47
gorillaadoyretsamon, please dont say that here at this stage... breezy still has some large bugs.05:47
TylerEWell I managed to fire off the postinstall config okay05:47
adoyretsamonsorry05:47
TylerEBut I still can't get this stupid LVM setup to auto-setup properly05:47
adoyretsamoni know it does05:47
TylerEare there known issues with LVM on ubuntu?05:47
dooglushmm.  I edited that smb.conf file and restarted samba, but I still don't see the remote shares.  Any other ideas?05:47
adoyretsamonhoary is good stuff05:48
crimsunJ5alive: what happens when you boot with pci=noacpi?05:48
adoyretsamoni highly recommend anyone try hoary05:48
durtviper: what are you trying to run?05:48
viperdoes it matter?05:48
hardw1rei tried breezy on saturday, im gonna wait for them to offically release it before i upgrade05:48
adoyretsamonhardw1re, yea, don't blame ya05:48
EasterSunshinehardw1re: i'm gonna wait till i get comp before i upgrade!05:48
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durtso i can try to run it too05:49
jasoncohenwickedpuppy, it'll be a lot better in breezy05:49
viperoh ok05:49
Jslcrimson as you can see i pushed play and it crashed...05:49
adoyretsamonlots of debug time can be spent better with hoary05:49
JslNever changed either05:49
adoyretsamondoing work or playing05:49
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viperi dont have anything specific so do u have media player?05:49
crimsunJsl: did you test with mpg321?05:49
JslNo05:49
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JslAll i did is type what you said05:50
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crimsunJsl: ...but I asked you to test with mpg32105:50
EasterSunshineis there a shortcut on bash or konsole that will paste from teh x clipboard as middle-click does?05:50
JslWhat do you want me to type?05:50
EasterSunshinei do not like movnig over to the mouse eachtime05:50
crimsunJsl: err, sorry, long day. That was for viper.05:51
durtviper: what errors do you get?05:51
TylerEEasterSunshine: Ctrl-V should work, shouldn't it?05:51
crimsunJsl: wait, did you change b-m-p to use esound for output as well?05:51
vipercan not find file, thats why i need help05:51
viperi dont know how configure it05:51
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Jsl(Confused) 0.o05:52
mindampthis is ridiculous05:52
mindampi have postfix setup05:52
EasterSunshineTylerE: nope ctrl-v does nothing, except when i press a directional key afterwards, it goes down as a char, instead of moving the cursor05:52
mindampand i can send mail fine...05:52
JslAnyway i tried to play a game and got this (  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1529  )05:52
mindampi just can't get any05:52
mindampcould someone assist me05:52
mindampi guess im using courier-pop305:52
crimsunJsl: you previously mentioned XMMS, and now you just mentioned b-m-p. Did you change BOTH to use esound?05:52
durti think you just need to get and exe file and run it as an argument with wine05:52
TylerEEasterSunshine: what are you trying to copy and paste from?05:52
J5alive I'm having some trouble with booting up with the Live CD of Ubuntu. I'm sure I have the right cd (AMD64), and I also tried the acpi=off (someone told me to try that), but to no avail...would anyone be willing to help me out? =)It freezes after the login sound, right at the rectangle logo05:52
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Jsl*More Confused*05:53
JslI have to set them too?05:53
durtie, "wine programthing.exe"05:53
mindampthere seems to be little or no documentation for ubuntu on it05:53
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jhallThank you wickedpuppy!!!05:53
crimsunJsl: sorry, I seem to misaddress everything intended for viper.05:53
crimsunJsl: your problem is with lack of sound and snd_intel8x0, correct?05:54
JslYeah05:54
Nuckin_Futsim viper, changed name05:54
adoyretsamonNuckin_Futs, nice nick05:54
crimsunJsl: ok, and did changing the Headphone setting allow you to hear sound?05:54
Nuckin_Futslol, thx05:54
JslHow?05:54
crimsunJsl: (you already did via amixer)05:54
durtok nucker, check out frankscorner.org05:55
JslOk then...05:55
JslSo what should i do?05:55
crimsunJsl: are you using esound?05:55
Nuckin_Futsdurt: hehe05:55
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JslIs confused05:55
mindampso am i going to get any support or need i cite some articles05:55
JslI know little about this stuff05:55
crimsunJsl: type this in a Terminal: pgrep esd05:55
Nuckin_Futsbrb: reading site05:55
mindamphttp://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/11/2335221&tid=163&tid=90&tid=190&tid=10605:56
Jsl7544 <--Got that05:56
BTJusticeAnyone know where Kontact stores identities at (not e-mail send & receive accounts)?05:56
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crimsunJsl: ok good. Are you testing sound with XMMS or beep-media-player?05:56
JslBeep05:56
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misadranhi all!!05:57
crimsunJsl: did you change the default output plugin to esound?05:57
crimsunJsl: (it defaults to OSS)05:57
misadranhey!!.. i have a problem with my pppoe conection05:57
mindampthis a nightmare05:57
adoyretsamongorilla, just that some stuff in bz finally works now... glad of it too... like usb hotplug05:57
JslHow do i change it05:57
JslDoubt i did05:57
adoyretsamonmade me fell good05:57
adoyretsamon=)05:57
crimsunJsl: secondary-click, choose Preferences, then Output, then change the plugin to esound05:57
misadransomebody help me05:57
misadran!!05:58
ubotu! is probably what you add before a sentence to talk to me05:58
doogluscan someone help me access my windows shares please?05:58
mindampjesus05:58
Nuckin_Futsdurt: what do i do with this site lol, what useful info did u find on it05:58
mindampman mount05:58
adoyretsamonsorry, jesus is not in the room05:58
misadranhey...05:58
mindampisn't there even a stupid little network browser in the gui?05:58
misadrani have a question05:58
mindamphey...05:58
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durtnuck: i got winamp running05:58
adoyretsamonmindamp, yes there is05:59
misadranwhy my connection to pppoe expires??05:59
smudomindamp:  try konq05:59
adoyretsamonplaces, network servers05:59
mindampwhy does05:59
mindampkonq?05:59
Nuckin_Futsdurt: cool05:59
adoyretsamonmindamp, try the places, network servers05:59
Nuckin_Futshow did u do it05:59
Nuckin_Futsterminal?05:59
smudomindamp:  if that doesn't work, then browse the places05:59
Nuckin_Futsor gui?05:59
adoyretsamonif you mount it, then it will stick to the desktop05:59
mindampwhat the hell05:59
mindampi know how to mount a damn drive05:59
adoyretsamonyour smb mount points05:59
mindampit was doogplus that asked06:00
smudomindamp:  then please try to be more specific.06:00
JslWorking :)06:00
adoyretsamonmindamp, k06:00
durtterminal06:00
mindampspecific about what?06:00
JslThank You !!!06:00
crimsunJsl: good06:00
net_benjoguys..any idea how I can fix the NAT problem in azureus?? thanks...06:00
durtbut now its doing weird things06:00
mindampive been trolling this channel for two days06:00
misadranwhy my conection to pppoe expires???06:00
mindampand you finally answer me with someone elses stupid little solution?06:00
Nuckin_Futsdurt: can u tell me exactly what u did?06:00
JslSomething sad is support isnt this good at microsoft....06:00
dooglusmindamp: I'm using the stupid network browser, but it's not showing any shares.06:00
smudomindamp:  you were asking a question and complained about the answer.06:00
mindamppay attention06:00
JslAnd linux is free06:00
mindamp i didn't ask any question06:01
Nuckin_Futsu just did wine winamp.exe?06:01
mindampexcept about pop306:01
mindampnow on pop3... why the bloddy hell doesn't courier-pop3 work?06:01
crimsunmindamp: erm, can you be more specific?06:01
mindampit better not be a damn ubuntu tuned package06:01
misadranpleaseee!! somebody help me!!!!!!!!! in some minutes my conection will be expired06:01
net_benjoanybody know how to fix NAT problem in AZUREUS?06:01
mindampwell i have postfix working..06:01
misadranmy conection to pppoe expires... why?06:02
mindampi can send from my server with a domain to my gmail account06:02
benplautnet_benjo, it's with your firewall or router06:02
mindamphowever when i telnet mindamp.org 11006:02
dooglusnet_benjo: just forward port 6881 on the NAT to your box06:02
benplautgoogle it, it's a common problem06:02
mindampthere aren't any messages06:02
smudomisadran:  It's a setting from your DHCP server, likely from your ISP.06:02
durtyes - wine winampxxxxx.exe06:02
mindampwinamp with wine? whats going wrong here?06:02
misadranwhat can i do??... in windows xp works normally!!06:03
crimsunmindamp: it sounds like courier-pop3 isn't configured.06:03
durtim playing around06:03
net_benjodooglus...I've got portfowarding configured for my XP OS....in UBUNTU azureus is set up to use the same port as in XP...so what else do I need to do?06:03
mindampcrimsun.. on the contrair06:03
Nuckin_Futshmm..when i run something, it says cannot find file06:03
dooglusnet_benjo: nothing06:03
mindamp/etc/courier/pop3d is configured06:03
dooglusnet_benjo: you configure port forwarding on the NAT, not on XP or Linux, right?06:03
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crimsunmindamp: ok, I presume you've gone through the standard courier-pop3 troubleshooting?06:04
mindampwhich would be...06:04
Nuckin_Futsdurt: did u run the wine config file?06:05
Ex_Cyberhow can I stop DHCP updates from trashing my /etc/resolv.conf?06:05
net_benjodooglus:..exuse me, i'm not an expert on this..but i'll try to explain...Basically I had to set up my XP to have static IP address.  After I did that..then I set up portfowarding using my router.   Then I set up azureus to use the port i just configured on the router....And then I got green faces on azureus....06:05
durtno06:05
Nuckin_Futsi did06:05
dooglusnet_benjo: can you use the same static IP address in ubuntu?06:05
Nuckin_Futsdurt: do u have xp's partion mounted?06:06
naliothcrimsun: is there a dev channel or something i can report a breezy bug to?06:06
durtno06:06
durtyou dont need windows06:06
dooglusnalioth: use the bug reporting web page06:06
crimsunnalioth: -devel06:06
durtim having problems though06:06
net_benjodooglus:...well that's exactly what I thogh I need to do...but how do I do that?  How do I set my ubuntu to use the same static IP as my windows???06:06
mindamphello?06:06
crimsunnalioth: please use bugzilla (or malone) as primary tools06:06
mindampi don't wanna say it...06:06
crimsunmindamp: for instance, the Gentoo docs06:06
mindampoh god06:06
mindamphttp://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/11/2335221&tid=163&tid=90&tid=190&tid=10606:07
mindampcourier-pop is one of those packages06:07
mindampapparently06:07
Nuckin_Futsi want to use my already app in xp, under linux, wine says it can do that06:07
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mindampwine lies06:07
Nuckin_Futsso i mounted my xp partitions06:07
durtwine was pissing me off so i uninstalled it06:07
Nuckin_Futsand did config file06:07
dooglusnet_benjo: system -> administration -> network -> (connection) -> properties -> configuration -> static ip address06:07
Nuckin_FutsLOL06:08
Nuckin_Futsima end up doing that too06:08
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mindampso let me get this straight06:08
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naliothcrimsun: dooglus: ty,06:08
Nuckin_Futsis there another program like wine?06:08
mindampno one in this room has installed pop3 on ubuntu?06:08
durtnow winamp is stuck nonfunctionl on the screen and wont go away!06:08
net_benjodooglus: thanks...i'll try that...i hope i dont' mess things up...but tha'ts half the fun..isn't it?06:08
KarlosIImindamp: what do you mean pop3? a server?06:08
Nuckin_Futslog off and on06:08
doogluspop3 is a protocol, right?06:08
mindampoh god06:08
Nuckin_Futsxmms did that to me06:08
mindampyes a pop3 server06:08
mindampfor the 18th time06:09
mindampneed i define server?06:09
dooglusI don't think you can install pop306:09
mindampor daemon?06:09
dooglusyou can install a pop3 server, or a pop3 client though.06:09
mindampSTF06:09
durtwhats a server...06:09
mindampU06:09
P8ntKidWhat is the comand to open up a File Browser?06:09
doogluswhats an apostrophe?06:09
mindampthis is unbelieveably stupid06:09
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mindampi shalt have never left gentoo06:09
mindamp:-(06:10
dooglusno, you shaltnt06:10
KarlosIImindamp: apt-cache search pop3?06:10
mindampkarlosII of course06:10
KarlosIIand no server in there?06:10
mindampoh god06:10
mindampcourier-pop06:10
P8ntKidWhat File browsers does Ubuntu have?06:10
mindampthats what im bleeping using06:10
HrdwrBoBnautilus.06:10
KarlosIImindamp: I just caught your last bit06:10
dooglusteapop - Powerful and flexible RFC-compliant POP3 server06:11
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mindampooooo06:11
mindampteapop eh?06:11
Nuckin_Futsdurt: did it go away?06:11
dooglusum - what was the question again?06:11
durtim going to restart now06:11
Nuckin_Futsjust log off06:11
Nuckin_Futsthen login again06:11
Nuckin_Futsno need to restart06:11
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dooglusis there a command to list the hosts in my workgroup?06:12
durti want this thing as deleted as possible06:12
[EasterSunshine] hey how would i cat a bunch of files together with two \r\n as a separator? ps. `man cat` is a hilarious command06:12
crimsunmindamp: this might be elementary, but I presume you've configured postfix to deliver to a user's Maildir?06:12
mindampyes06:12
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crimsunmindamp: what are the home_mailbox and mailbox_command directives?06:13
tron^hi there all06:13
mindampMaildir06:13
mindampno mailbox_command06:13
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crimsunso postfix is running with the modified config?06:14
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mindampof course06:14
mindamplooks like im using teapop now...06:14
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mindampand i can send mail locally to my domain and localhost06:15
mindampand receive it...06:15
mindampbut when i try sending one from gmail...06:15
mindampno avail06:15
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crimsunok. If the logs aren't helping you debug, post a message to ubuntu-users06:15
jamesHi. I was just wonding when i turn on my computer. the screen that shows the ubuntu splash have a white box in the bottem. I am using breezy.06:15
P8ntKidIs there any file browser i can use while i am on Fluxbox?06:15
KarlosIImc06:16
crimsunjames: known issue, since the splash is a work-in-progress06:16
jamescrimsun, ok06:16
jameswill it be fixed?06:16
[EasterSunshine] when catting multiple files, how do i specifiy a seperator?06:16
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durtthat was nightmarish06:16
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crimsunjames: sure, but more help is welcome.06:16
jamescrimsun, I don't know how I can help im new to linux and I dont know how to program or do art lol.06:17
durtnuck, if you have a windows partition, why do you need wine?06:17
benplautnuck: to not have to switch OS between things06:18
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Nuckin_Futsbenplaut: exactly06:18
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Nuckin_Futsu guys can still call me viper if its easier :)06:18
mindampthis is fucking blatantly stupid06:18
durtthere are linux alternatives to almost every windows app06:19
kwilcoxif my xorg.conf file has the correct info to run 1024x768, why is it not an optino when going into the Screen Resolution option under System... Preferences06:19
Nuckin_Futsthis is bucking flatantly stupid06:19
Nuckin_Futsnah, that doesnt work06:19
durtkwilcox it muct not be correct then06:19
durtmust06:19
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Nuckin_Futswhen i goto terminal then type cd /WinRoot/Program FIles/.....06:20
Nuckin_Futsit says cannot find file /WinRoot/Program06:20
Nuckin_Futsit skipes the Files/.....06:20
Nuckin_Futswhy, and is there a way to fix it06:21
kwilcoxdurt: pastebin06:21
ianNuckin_Futs: yes, use "\ "06:21
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Nuckin_Futsokay06:21
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Madpilothi all06:21
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ianNuckin_Futs: but really, just type /Wi<tab>/Pr<tab>06:21
luihello06:22
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luithe Smeg works in hoary?06:22
Nuckin_Futsyea that worked06:22
durtkwilcox: what me or you?06:22
kwilcoxdurt: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d153106:23
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mindampfuck fuck fuck06:23
Nuckin_FutsYAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORKS NOW06:23
mindampmaybe i will try to configure with webmin06:23
Nuckin_Futstysm ian06:23
net_benjothanks dooglus...that worked like a charm...i get a green face in azureus..06:23
mindampno your nuckin06:23
Nuckin_Futsheheheheheh06:23
mindampnot fuckin :-)06:23
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BTJusticeAnyone know where Kontact stores identities at (not e-mail send & receive accounts)?06:23
net_benjodooglus: do you happen to know if its possible to print in ubuntu with canon pixima iP4000 printer?06:23
Nuckin_Futsim going nuckin futs06:23
mindampoh blah06:24
smudobai bai06:24
mindampi can't login from any other machine except itself to webmin06:24
mindampnow thats gay06:24
luithe Smeg works in hoary?06:24
Nuckin_Futsnet_benjo: i have same printer, tried, no way06:24
durtkwilcox: post the whold thing06:24
durtpaste that is06:24
Nuckin_Futsno driver for it06:24
dooglusnet_benjo: I have no idea, sorry.06:24
net_benjono prob, guys....thanks anyways...06:25
Madpilotnet_benjo: have you checked linuxprinting.org?06:25
mindampput an end to that right quick06:25
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luianybody have smeg in ubuntu?06:25
Nuckin_FutsMadpilot: i have, no driver for CanonIPX 4000 at all06:25
durtlui yes06:25
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supernixI was curious is the kernel image the actual kernel that runs the OS ?06:25
mindampso what the hell is the difference from ubuntu and debian?06:25
net_benjoMadpilot: no..i only checked ubuntu forums...i figured if they dont' have it....there's no answer anywhere else either..06:26
MadpilotNuckin_Futs: too bad - great nickname, buy the way06:26
mindampit seems to be just a script ripoff06:26
luidurt, does it work with hoary version?06:26
Nuckin_Futsmadpilot: thx06:26
titaniumis there a way to limit upload bandwidth across the entire system?06:26
deFrysklui yes06:26
durtmine works06:26
pestilencemindamp: no.06:26
Nuckin_Futsg2g, bye all06:26
Seveastitanium, yes there is06:26
mindampno ?06:26
titaniumSeveas: what can i look up06:26
mindampthats all uve got?06:27
pestilencemindamp: ask in a more intelligent manner, you may get an more intelligent response ;)06:27
Seveastitanium, google for wondershaper06:27
luideFrysk, thanks. Jus what should I do with the script they have in the page to install it?06:27
mindampok..06:27
net_benjoNuxking_Futs:  what do you use for burning cd/DVD's?? K3B?06:27
mindampwhats the difference between debian and ubuntu?06:27
deFrysklui, apt-get install smeg is easyest06:27
Madpilot!debian06:27
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/06:27
La_PaRCaare ubuntu passwords salted?06:27
pestilencemindamp: biggest thing is the release cycle06:27
Madpilotmindamp: see ubotu above ^^^06:27
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kwilcoxdurt: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d153306:28
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mindamphmm06:28
rogerioHi there...06:28
mindampit seems like debian is actually denouncing ubuntu...06:28
mindampso why would i trust what ubuntu has to say?06:28
mindampabout what devian is?06:28
rogerioI am an old time user of Debian and I want to try using ubuntu...06:28
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luideFrysk, I haven't in apt-get :(06:28
deFrysk! smeg06:28
ubotusmeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.06:28
titaniumSeveas: thanks06:29
rogerioI would like to know some things regarding the release of ubuntu06:29
pestilencemindamp: look at the developers of ubuntu06:29
crimsunmindamp: the core Ubuntu developers are (with very few exceptions) all active Debian developers06:29
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deFrysklui its in backports06:29
mindampwell.. maybe true, however they aren't core developers of debian......06:29
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mindampi mean, im a debian developer06:29
titaniumwhich uses less memory, kde or gnome?06:29
mindampbut i also smoke two joint every morning06:29
rogerioI would like to give Ubuntu 5.10 a shot on my machine...06:29
mindamper joints06:30
pestilenceclearly06:30
mindampfucker06:30
deFrysklui : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports?highlight=%28backports%2906:30
mindampso its just not making since to me..06:30
rogerioI've already grabbed the daily build of today...06:30
Nexinarus!lui06:30
ubotuNexinarus: Not a clue06:30
rogerioWould it be better if I used "colony-3"?06:30
crimsunmindamp: if you have a personal issue with it, you should direct that to ubuntu-devel06:30
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durtsorry kwilcox, i dont know anything about your hardware, i suggest googling and asking around about your video card and monitor06:31
Madpilotrogerio: that's the current beta build of the next release. Current stable is 5.0406:31
mindampi have several personal issues with it06:31
luideFrysk, ok, I'm moving into linux thanks for the help06:31
pestilencerogerio: why not use hoary?06:31
TylerEUgh, ubuntuforums is braindead. It's REALLY fscking helpful to have a help site where one cannot register with a text browser.06:31
mindamplike fucking mail god damn it06:31
mindampi just want my mail!06:31
crimsunmindamp: I'm sure Matt, Fabio, Sebastian, Daniel, Scott, Lamont, James, etc. will be pleased to respond06:31
psurani!w06:31
ubotuI don't know, psurani06:31
rogerioUnfortunately, I saw no jigdo file for the colony's...06:31
TylerEany lvm experts here?06:31
psurani!ubotu06:31
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/06:31
rogeriopestilence: I want to use something experimental...06:31
Nexinaruswhen i install transcode, it breaks my maching by using core packages that are too new, help?06:31
pestilencerogerio: a sucker for pain, huh06:31
Nexinaruslike by using libc6, libgcc1, etc that are too new06:31
Madpilotrogerio: try Colony 3 then, apparently it's actually fairly workable - but still experimental!06:32
rogeriopestilence: yeah, I run Debian on an oldworld PowerPC. :-)06:32
pestilenceNexinarus: clean out your /etc/apt/sources.list06:32
mindampfuck it06:32
mindampim going back to slackware06:32
deFryskmindamp, good for you :)06:32
Madpilotmindamp: good. have fun there.06:32
rogerioMadpilot: are these "colony" things release candidates?06:32
crimsunrogerio: yes06:32
Nexinaruspestilence: ive fixed the problem, but transcode still cant be installed safely so..06:32
pestilenceNexinarus: what repository is transcode found in?06:33
rogerioI saw that the previous name for "beta's" was "array".06:33
rogerioIs that correct?06:33
rogerioIs there anybody here that is related to the release team of Ubuntu?06:33
crimsunrogerio: that changes based on each development code name06:33
Madpilotgah... just spent four hours today being abused by an old Win98 machine... I need my Ubuntu fix! (and a beer!)06:33
crimsunrogerio: several if not quite a few06:33
rogeriocrimsun: thanks.06:33
mindampits almost as if ubuntu is actually dumb06:33
mindamplike half retarded almost06:34
pestilencemindamp: please, do tell.06:34
mindampwell...06:34
rogeriocrimsun: I would like to make a suggestion of generating jigdo files for the "colony's", "array's" or whatever...06:34
Madpilotmindamp: if you're just going to spread FUD, perhaps you should just sod off...06:34
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mindampim just trying to get help...06:34
Nexinarusarent we all?06:34
mindampyet no one seems to have setup a simple mail server on ubuntu06:34
mindampso in my minds..06:34
mindampits almost half retarded06:35
pestilencemindamp: search the forums.06:35
mindampi did06:35
mindamppest06:35
mindampand google06:35
cafuegomindamp: a simple mail server is set up automaticaslly when ubuntu installs06:35
deFryskmindamp, get slackware06:35
Madpilotmindamp: nobody pays us to be here. Ask again in a few hours, somebody might be able to help you06:35
pestilencemindamp: there is a very detailed howto06:35
rogeriocrimsun: I have one question regarding the release process of Ubuntu.06:35
mindampand the whole damn web06:35
mindampwhere is this "howto"06:35
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mindampand there was no mail server installed when i did the base server install06:35
BTJusticemindamp:  There is always Linspire06:35
rogeriocrimsun: does it have the analogues of "unstable", "testing" and "stable" that Debian has?06:35
pestilencemindamp: search for (drumroll) "mail server"06:35
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pestilencein the forums06:35
psuraniguys, whats samba server ???06:35
mindampunless you mean local delivery06:35
cafuegomindamp: postfix was installed06:36
mindampi did you pest06:36
psurani!samba06:36
ubotuI guess samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently06:36
mindampi have postfix installed06:36
mindamppop306:36
cafuegomindamp: postfix dopesn't do pop3.06:36
mindampis what i seem to be having difficulty with06:36
mindampno shit06:36
cafuegowell, install pop3 server then.06:36
pestilencemindamp: no, it shows you how to configure postfix to work with squirrelmail and all sorts of other options like imap.06:36
durtmindphuk: see if this helps  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d153306:36
mindampagain06:36
cafuego'apt-cache search pop3'  -pick one, install it.06:36
durtmaybe06:36
crimsunrogerio: not quite. It has the analogues of Stable and Unstable - currently Warty & Hoary for Stable and Breezy for Unstable.06:36
mindampi need a simple pop3 server06:36
mindampoh god06:36
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mindampi did install serveral..06:37
mindampbut whenever i mutt06:37
mindampi have no messages06:37
rogeriocrimsun: thanks, that clarifies a lot.06:37
crimsunrogerio: on the other hand, while Unstable will not release, Breezy will. In effect, Breezy is a combination of Testing and Unstable.06:37
cafuegoThen you obviously didn't install it right.06:37
cafuegomindamp: Did you check the logs for any errors?06:37
mindampno errors06:37
rogeriocrimsun: do you have a newer tetex than Debian?06:37
mindampno mail in /var/spool06:37
pestilencerogerio: it's easy enough to check http://packages.ubuntu.com06:38
psuranican anyone help me, whats use of samba server06:38
cafuegomindamp: If there is no mail in /var/spool, then of course they won't show any messages via pop3. Duh.06:38
pestilencepsurani: to share files with windows machines06:38
mindampno shit06:38
rogeriocrimsun: I develop a LaTeX package and it would be nice to know what I can count on the distribution.06:38
mindampthats the problem06:38
mindampTHERE IS NO MAIL IN /var/spool06:38
rogeriopestilence: thanks. Took note of that.06:38
rogerioI'm checking it now...06:38
cafuegomindamp: Then youn need to configure postfix to accept mail, eh?06:38
mindampoh fuck man06:38
cafuegomindamp: edit /etc/postfix/main.cf06:39
mindampit works locally06:39
mindampwith postfix06:39
mindampi configure main.cf for my domain etc..06:39
cafuegomindamp: Yes, you need to tell it top not JUST listen on 127.0.0.106:39
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mindampi did cafuego06:39
mindampit listens on all ips06:39
mindampbut again06:39
mindampits not pop06:39
cafuegoDid you verify that via telnet from a remote host?06:39
Seveaspostfix is just smtp...06:39
mindampyes06:40
mindampi can telnet mindamp.org 110 fine06:40
mindampjust no messages06:40
cafuegomindamp: No, telnet to port 2506:40
cafuegomindamp: Then SEND it a mail.06:40
rogerioHummm... I see that the tetex version is similar to the outdated version in Debian...06:40
rogerio:-(06:40
mindampi can send mail fine06:40
mindampgod damn it06:40
cafuegomindamp: op3 won't show any messages UNTIL there is something in /var/mail/06:40
Seveasmindamp, listen to what he says...06:40
Seveastelnet your_host 2506:40
cafuegomindamp: Then you're not explaining your problem06:41
mindampoh jesus06:41
SeveasMAIL FROM: <you@somewhere>06:41
mindampwhat should the mynetworks line be?06:41
SeveasRCPT TO: <you@localdomain>06:41
mindampto accept on all networks?06:41
cafuegomindamp: Send your postfix a mail from a remote box, check the mail log to see what it does with it.06:41
rogerioAnother thing about the release process of Ubuntu:06:41
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mindamphah06:42
cafuegomindamp: You don't edit mynetworks for delivery acceptyance, that would make it an open relay.06:42
mindampesmtp exim06:42
mindampthats not postfix is it?06:42
cafuegoNo, exim is not postfix.06:42
mindamphrmmmm06:42
mindampwhat the hell06:42
rogerioI see that many Debian Developers are also developers of Ubuntu (and, to be honest, some of the best Debian Developers are Ubuntu developers).06:42
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luideFrysk, I have this answer when trying to install smeg, check my paste bin please http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/153406:42
cafuegomindamp: Did mail.log show you that connect?06:42
Jhonnyhi, how can i create gpg keys, so i can sign the code of conduct?06:42
cafuegomindamp: Or does your ISP not allow incoming smtp?06:43
rogerioand what about the packages that aren't in the main distribution?06:43
Seveasmindamp, it looks like you have no clue what you are doing (no attack intended), so please read some documentation. postfix and exim have good documentation about how to setup a mailserver06:43
mindampthere is no mail.log06:43
crimsunJhonny: the GnuPG how-to has a nice tutorial06:43
mindampwhat the fuck06:43
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SeveasJhonny, gpg --gen-key06:43
rogerioDo you push the patches/fixes back to Debian/upstream?06:43
pestilencerogerio: there is also universe and multiverse, which has about anything you could ever want.06:43
cafuegomindamp: is postfix running? (ps auxww | grep postfix)06:43
Seveasrogerio, yes06:43
NexinarusJhonny: try 'gpg'06:43
mindamphow did postfix start ok if exim is on port 2506:43
rogeriopestilence: thanks.06:43
No1VikingI bet incoming port 25 is blocked!!06:43
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mindampno.. no the port is not blocked06:43
No1Vikingok06:43
brendenare there any ubuntu devs or people familiar with the ubuntu development process here?06:43
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Seveasbrenden, yes06:44
deFrysklui do you have the mutliverse and universe repo's active ?06:44
cafuegomindamp: Your ISP may be redirecting port 2506:44
deFryskmultiverse*06:44
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mindampno its not..06:44
brendenSeveas: what does it take to get a package into the ubuntu repos? (for breezy, of course)06:44
mindampi had it working fine under slackware06:44
titaniululzhow do you use expr to multiply two numbers?06:44
luideFrysk, how do I know that?06:44
rogerioSeveas: well, I have the same question..06:44
cafuegomindamp: Then you somehow managed to install exim06:44
Seveasbrenden, for breezy it is already impossible due to freezes and and enormous backlog for the developers, you might have luck on breezy+106:45
cafuegomindamp: Remove exim, run postfix.06:45
mindampapt-get remove exim06:45
Seveasreead wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU06:45
crimsunbrenden: it won't make it into main period at this point, and it's unlikely we'll put it into universe or multiverse, but you can try. Follow the links for new packages wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU06:45
mindamp0 packages installed06:45
mindampyet i telnet to it, and i get esmtp exim?06:45
cafuegomindamp: exim406:45
cafuegoor exim4-light06:45
mindampah06:45
titaniululzSeveas, wondershaper is awesome. thanks06:45
cafuego'dplg -l | grep exim'06:45
brendenwhat if it's in the debian repos?06:45
deFrysklui cat /etc/apt/sources.list and see if the universe lines are commented06:45
rogerioI would like to package vbrfix (I'm already working with upstream)...06:45
Seveasbrenden, then it might just already be there06:45
cafuegodpkg even06:45
Seveaswhich application?06:45
rogerioDoes ubuntu have something like sponsoring?06:46
deFrysklui commented = marked with a #06:46
brendenSeveas: http://sourceforge.net/projects/conky06:46
Seveasrogerio, canonical funds a lot of ubuntu work06:46
brendenSeveas: i'm a gentoo user, but i was contacted by a debian dev a while ago who said he was going to make a debian package...06:46
crimsunrogerio: we don't "sponsor" uploads in that sense, no06:46
rogeriothanks...06:46
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Seveasif you already have a .deb package, it will be accepted quicker (but still most likely not for breezy)06:47
rogerioThat clears more questions regarding the development of ubuntu...06:47
mindampi started postfix and removed exim06:47
mindampnow there is nothing on 2506:47
titaniululzexpr 2 * 8 gives me 'syntax error' -- how do i make it evaluate multiplication?06:47
mindamp?06:47
maeurl for prerelease iso of breezy?06:47
cafuegomindamp: then postfix is not running06:47
Seveascrimsun, well, the MOTU sometimes do sponsored uploads...06:47
mindampi started postifx though...06:47
luideFrysk, all the lines say: restricted universe multiverse06:47
mindamp/etc/init.d/postfix restart06:47
brendenSeveas: okay, just wondering.  a lot of ubuntu users come to me asking lame questions about how to build conky, so i was hoping it might get into the ubuntu repos...06:47
Seveasmae releases.ubuntu.com06:47
mindampill reinstall06:48
crimsunSeveas: in a wide sense, yes, but there's no sense of ownership06:48
maety06:48
luideFrysk, and none have #06:48
Seveastrue...06:48
BTJustice!paste06:48
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:48
cafuegoapt-get install --reinstall --force-confmiss postfix06:48
mindampk06:48
Nexinarusforce-confmiss... hmm..06:48
mindampnow how do i send mail from a postfix terminal window?06:48
BTJusticeShould I uncomment any other lines in my sources.list file?  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/153506:49
maeSeveas i dont see breezy here06:49
cafuegomindamp: echo foo | mail user06:49
rogeriocrimsun: the fact that there's no "ownership" is a plus the way I understand it...06:49
benplautBTJustice, uncomment all of them06:49
benplautwoops06:49
benplautnevermind06:49
benplautcustom sources.list06:49
mindampharmmm06:49
mindampmail not found06:49
rogerioI've been filing bugs on the Debian BTS and some of them just got ignored...06:49
mindampwtf06:49
luideFrysk, are you here?06:49
rogerioEven when I provided a patch...06:49
mindampno mail command?06:49
Seveashttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/06:49
crimsunrogerio: yes, it definitely is. It certainly has helped push innumerable packages into Breezy-ready state.06:49
rogerioAnd a clean patch, I'd say...06:49
maety06:50
P8ntKidDoes anybody now where i can get a Flash plugin for firefox for ubuntu06:50
brendenthanks anyway...06:50
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P8ntKid?06:50
wickedpuppy!flash06:50
ubotuwell, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:50
BTJusticebenplaut: I shouldn't mess with the universe ones should I?06:50
mindampmail: command not found?06:50
cafuegomindamp: you should have a mail in /var/mail/root nopw06:50
deFrysklui compare it with my sources.list and see if anything is missing  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/153606:51
mindampcafuego.. none06:51
mindampit said mail: command not found06:51
mindampwhat package is that in?06:51
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P8ntKid!flash06:51
ubotuwell, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:51
wickedpuppymail comes default06:51
mindampapparently not...06:51
cafuegomindamp: mailx06:51
da_bon_bonhi all06:51
da_bon_bonanyone from india here ?06:52
wickedpuppyfunny ... it is on my ubuntu ... it comes default06:52
da_bon_boni recived my hoary cds, but want ubuntu to be full fledged up to date, but my net is SLOOOW and pay per minute06:52
da_bon_bonso i am looking for some one in india, who can give me the latest packages06:52
mindamphmm06:52
da_bon_bonis there any other way around it ?06:52
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mindampcafuego.. echo foo | mail root06:52
wickedpuppyda_bon_bon, that person gotta give ya update every day ...06:52
mindampno mail in /var/spool....06:52
cafuegomindamp: I just sent two mails through, check /var/log/mail.log06:53
tristanmikepay "by the minute"!? that's crazy06:53
KarlosIIwhy is this broken? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/paidsupport06:53
mindampcafuego..06:53
cafuegomindamp: root mail is probably forwarded to your user account, check /etc/aliases06:53
mindampthere is no /var/log/mail.log06:53
da_bon_bonwickedpuppy: no.. i dont want blleeeeding edge -- only a one update, with stuff like flash and mp3 .. and thats all.06:53
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da_bon_bonwickedpuppy: something like a repo snapshit :D06:54
da_bon_bon;)06:54
SeveasKarlosII, what's broken about it?06:54
da_bon_bon*shot06:54
KarlosIISite Error06:54
KarlosIIAn error was encountered while publishing this resource.06:54
P8ntKidGod, the Ubuntuguide really does say alot, i didnt think it had much in it. Its very helpful06:54
wickedpuppyda_bon_bon, ah hmms ... that ... you got to ask someone from india :P06:54
KarlosIIAttributeError06:54
KarlosIISorry, a site error occurred.06:54
KarlosIITraceback (innermost last06:54
KarlosIISeveas:06:54
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luideFrysk, mine seems with a lot of difference http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/153706:54
SeveasKarlosII, refresh the page06:54
Seveasworks fine here06:54
mindampcafuego.. it is forwarded to mindamp06:54
Nexinarusis there a way to see if installing a .deb file on my hard drive will install properly (need no extra dependencies) ?06:54
mindamphowever there is no mail in /var/spool/mindamp or root06:54
mindampand not /var/mail/mail.log06:54
KarlosIISeveas: oh, does it everytime I goto it06:54
cafuegomindamp: is syslogd running? does it have an entry to log mail logs to /var/log/mail.log in /etc/syslog.conf06:55
SeveasNexinarus, dpkg-deb --show filename.deb06:55
SeveasNexinarus, dpkg-deb --info filename.deb06:55
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Nexinarus!dpkg-deb06:55
ubotuNot a clue, Nexinarus06:55
mindampmail.*                          -/var/log/mail.log06:55
mindampcafuego yep06:55
MadpilotP8ntKid: try wiki.ubuntu.com - even more stuff that ubuntuguide, and more of it's up to date...06:55
Nexinarusthnx Seveas06:55
cafuegomindamp: sudo touch /var/log/mail.log; sudo /etc/init.d/syslog restart; sudo postfix restart06:56
rogerioI will probably be giving a course on the use of Linux and I thought of using Debian as the distribution on which to base my explanations, but given these facts about the reelase process being clearer, I think that I may choose Ubuntu instead..06:56
P8ntKidMadpilot, Thanks06:56
da_bon_bongee.. may out of date is best ;006:56
vitriolhow do you set up a bluetooth mouse?06:56
mindampcafuego...06:56
mindampno syslog06:57
mindampthats odd06:57
rogerioI only wished that Ubuntu were lighter on the machines that I have at the university where I teach... :-(06:57
vitriolthe thing is recognized when i do hcitool scan, but i can't get it working when i do cat /dev/input/mice06:57
rogerioThe machines aren't exactly that powerful. :-(06:57
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cafuegowell, that's why it's not logging06:57
Seveasrogerio, you can use a lighter desktop :)06:57
luiSeveas, breezy is unstable right? what does mean those colony 1,2,3. First, second and third "test versions"?06:57
wickedpuppyrogerio, try DSL .. damn small linux06:57
mindampsyslogd06:57
KarlosIISeveas: why is it doing that everytime I access it initially ???06:57
Seveaslui, correct06:57
wickedpuppyor run fluxbox instead of gnome06:57
mindampactually06:57
mindampits sysklogd06:57
SeveasKarlosII, no idea...06:57
luiSeveas, ok06:58
KarlosIIu using ff 1.06?06:58
mindampcafuego.. done06:58
Seveasyes06:58
MadpilotKarlosII: can you post a screenshot somewhere that page broken? I'm using Opera 8.02, and that page looks fine06:58
KarlosIITroubleshooting Suggestions06:58
vitriolnobody uses a bluetooth mouse/keyboard?06:58
KarlosII    * The URL may be incorrect.06:58
KarlosII    * The parameters passed to this resource may be incorrect.06:58
KarlosII    * A resource that this resource relies on may be encountering an error.06:58
KarlosIIFor more detailed information about the error, please refer to error log.06:58
SeveasKarlosII, do not paste in here please...06:58
rogeriothanks for the suggestions.06:59
rogerioI will be checking them out.06:59
vitriol!bluetooth06:59
ubotuvitriol: Are you smoking crack?06:59
vitriol:\06:59
mindampcafuego.. i can see my connects in mail.log now..06:59
benplautubotu: yup, he is06:59
ubotubenplaut: I haven't a clue06:59
Nexinaruslol06:59
KarlosIISeveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/153806:59
vitriolnot a very nice thing for a bot to say06:59
benplaut:P06:59
rogerioSeveas: I'll see what is available and report back... Perhaps I will subscribe to ubuntu mailing lists...06:59
KarlosIISeveas: if I could be pointed int he right direction if the issue is on my end07:00
Nexinarusi think im smoking crack for trying to get transcode to work :S07:00
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deFrysklui, its too early for me to compare, thats up to you ;p07:01
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vitriol*sigh* just need to use whatever hardware everybody else is using ;)07:01
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rogerioWell, thank you very much for the warm reception with my questions regarding the release process of Ubuntu. Now everything is clearer and I have some pointers where I will be checking.07:01
rogerioThanks.07:02
cafuegomindamp: ok, then you should also be able to see what it does with the mails07:02
mindampwell no07:02
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mindampi just sent it one from gmail07:02
mindampand it doesn't even show a connect in mail.log07:02
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luideFrysk, thanks, i'm trying, :)07:02
cafuegomindamp: did you set up the MX records properly?07:03
cafuegoHmm, no you didn't.07:04
mindampmx point to itself07:04
P8ntKidHow do i set me defualt file vewer as Rox?07:04
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mindampill check godaddy07:05
mindampto make sure07:05
cafuegomindamp: No, it doesn't.07:05
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cafuegomindamp: You don't have a static IP from your ISP, do you?07:05
mindampwhat should it be pointing to ?07:05
Fingolfinnhello again07:05
mindampyes i do...07:05
mindampi had this working perfectly on slackware07:05
mindampoh wait07:06
cafuegomindamp: It's pointing at 208.60.215.248, which isn't listeningon port 2507:06
mindampbah!07:06
mindampstupid stupid mindamp07:06
maehow well does the new clipboard functionality work in gnome 2.1207:06
cafuegomindamp: Do you have postfix set up to deliver mails to mbox btw?07:06
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robotgeek!lart mindamp07:07
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mindamphrm07:07
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mindampcafuego07:07
mindampwhat should the maildir and mail command settings be?07:07
mindampit set to Maildir/07:07
mindampwhich does not seem right07:07
cafuegomindamp: That depends on what you want it to do with the mail07:07
mindampjust standard crap i guess07:07
mindamppop307:07
mindampdelivery it to local users07:07
cafuegomindamp: If you set them to blank, mail will go to the mbox spool07:07
mindampso they can check it via pop307:07
mindampahah07:08
mindampso thats what i want07:08
cafuegomindamp: Alternatively, there;s a slightly more advanced setup where you can have unlimited mailboxes with auth info stored in mysql (and offer pop/imap for it)07:08
mindamphmm07:08
mindampcan't i just leave them blank07:08
mindampand add users for each mail account?07:09
cafuegomindamp: in sql, yes. I run a setup like that with about 100 domains.07:09
mindamphmm07:09
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luiSeveas, can you help me with Smeg please? I have this answer when trying to install with apt-get   http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/153407:09
mindampi just want my shell account users to have pop3 mail07:09
cafuegomindamp: and there IS a comprehensive HOWTO :-)07:09
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smudo!upgrade07:10
ubotuwell, upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"07:10
cafuegomindamp: *nod* let me doa  quick check07:10
deFrysklui, I got the same message!!07:10
deFryskthis is weird :s07:10
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asimismoGreetings. I'm getting this on boot: /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file07:11
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luideFrysk, well maybe they retired the package !?07:11
cafuego"mailbox command ="07:11
asimismoThat's preceded by: pivot_root: No such file or directory07:11
asimismoRunning Warty...07:11
mindampcafuego..07:11
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deFrysklui, its probably temoparely try again tomorrow07:12
mindampwhen i telnet mindamp.org 25 from metawire.org07:12
mindampi get my box07:12
deFryskand my spelling sucks :s07:12
mindampso i don't understand how the mx could affect this07:12
smudohow do I get XDMCP to run?07:12
mindampcause its obviously working07:12
smudoI need to do remote logins on my closed network.07:12
cafuegomindamp: 'host -t MX mindamp.org' -> telnet to port 25 of the IP that returns.07:12
HrdwrBoBsmudo: it's in the gdm config07:12
smudoI edited the kdmrc but may have made a mistake07:13
smudo!xdmcp07:13
ubotuWish i knew, smudo07:13
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HrdwrBoBsmudo: kdmrc is #kubuntu07:13
luideFrysk, I'll do that tomorrow then. No pro with spelling, I'm practicing my english here ;)07:13
cafuegoNote they are completely different addresses. The MX one will be used by sane servers.07:13
tristanmikelui, could this relate to the add/remove problem where I believe python-xdg is fixed?07:13
smudoHrd:  I'll try there...thanks07:13
mindampcafuego..07:13
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mindampits the same IP for me07:13
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mindampalthough i just changed it with godaddy07:13
cafuegomindamp: Then  it's probably cached07:14
mindamphmm07:14
luitristanmike, I really don't know man! :P07:14
mindampso then it should work now?07:14
cafuegomindamp: that may take up to a day or so to propagate07:14
mindampah07:14
mindamplike over to gmail and what not07:14
asimismoSo, any idea why this would cause a kernel panic on booting Warty? "/sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file"07:14
tristanmikelui, gimmie a sec ok07:14
bob2warty is pretty old07:14
cafuegomindamp: yep07:15
cafuegomindamp: I just sent another kmail07:15
mindampdid you just send me mail?07:15
cafuegos/k//07:15
mindamphrm07:15
asimismobob2: What a noob mistake. Sorry. Running Hoary.07:15
mindampcool07:15
mindampso now i just wait for MX to propagate?07:15
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cafuegomindamp: yes07:15
mindampmaybe i could do some propagating07:16
Micksadammit07:16
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mindampi appreciate it man07:16
HrdwrBoBasimismo: it means your filesystem changed07:16
Micksawhat's the Right Way to make sure .profile is run in xterms?07:16
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asimismobob2: If they'd increment alphabetically I could keep them straight!07:16
asimismoHrdwrBoB: How so?07:16
Micksaor at least, the env vars in it are passed through to them07:16
mindampall that just so i can picture blog to wordpress while i visit my girlfriend tomorrow07:16
mindamp:-)07:16
Micksaputting ". .profile" in .Xsession didn't work :/07:16
luitristanmike, sure07:16
mindampim sure shed thank you...07:16
Micksa.xsession07:16
bob2you're unlikely to find much help fixing that07:16
bob2unless it's something obvious like a corrupt disk07:16
mindampif she liked that sort of thing :-)07:16
mindampnight07:17
bob2hm, lag07:17
Dr_Willis.profile is 'old-skool' i think :P normally its .bashrc and .bash_profile that gets read by the shells07:17
asimismobob2: Well I tried to switch to k7 and got the error. So I switched back to i386. Then I just updated my packages and got a new version of i386 and that killed my good kernel.07:17
HrdwrBoBasimismo: you broke your bootloader07:18
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asimismoHrdwrBoB: Could be. I don't remember changing anything for that entry.07:18
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HrdwrBoBasimismo: you shouldn't need to change anything07:19
asimismoHrdwrBoB: Right. So how would I have broken it?07:19
jamesHello, I have a question I was hoping someone could help me with07:19
DekaPinkIs there a way to remove command that references program that's no longer there? :307:19
HrdwrBoBasimismo: hm.. if you removed stuff from /etc/modules07:20
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HrdwrBoBthe initrd it built wouldn't load the right drivers07:20
asimismoHrdwrBoB: What rebuilds initrd, then?07:20
jamesI have two harddrives installed in my computer and the one I'm using now has Linux Ubuntu, is it possibl;e for me to format the other harddrive from Ubuntu?07:20
HrdwrBoBwhen you install the package, or mkinitrd07:20
tristanmikelui, could open your add/remove and tell me if it in fact opens?07:20
asimismoHrdwrBoB: I don't remember physically removing anything from /etc/modules. Is there anything that does that as a side effect?07:21
HrdwrBoBasimismo: nothing should07:21
asimismoHrdwrBoB: Hmmm. Suggestions on fixing?07:21
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NoUsejames I'm not sure if there is a GUI application for formatting devices, but you can do it from the console for sure07:22
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luitristanmike, it opens07:22
b3nwis fgl_glxgears suppost to give much lower numbers that glxgears?07:22
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nlnugenhi, setting up dialup connection, new enough to not get it.07:22
jamesok console, what is the console?07:22
nlnugen?console07:23
NoUse!terminal07:23
ubotu[terminal]  in gnome, to get to a terminal, you use the gnome menu, that is by default on the top of the screen. Hit Applications>System Tools>Terminal.07:23
b3nwis fgl_glxgears suppost to give much lower numbers that glxgears?07:23
tristanmikelui, ok there was a bug with python-xdg not alowing add/remove to open so I thought the broken package might be casuing your proplem, obviously not.07:23
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jamesok I know how to get into the terminal, but what commands do I use?07:24
DekaPinkI guess that's a no to my question then. :307:24
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NoUsejames depends on what file system you want to use07:24
KarlosIIMadpilot: did yu get that link07:24
nlnugenHelp please,07:24
KarlosIIMadpilot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/153807:24
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jamesI'm sorry but I don't understand. I don't know what file system I want to use, I just want to format my other harddrive07:25
asimismoHrdwrBoB: Can you explain how a missing module shows up as an error with dev/console (which looks like it's missing a leading slash)?07:25
MadpilotKarlosII: interesting - looks like whatever engine runs the Ubuntu sites threw a fit for you. Is it still doing it?07:25
NoUsejames do you want to use it for Windows or Linux?07:25
KarlosIIyes07:25
KarlosIIalways on that link07:25
HrdwrBoBasimismo: if you are missing the module to load to mount your hard drive07:25
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HrdwrBoBit can't find the files07:25
KarlosIIbut one of the links I can refreash Madpilot07:26
KarlosIIand it starts working07:26
ZainI have an idea Linux with Nt4 Gui and supporting 486 up to modern systems wine+ easy graphical tools for zipping/image viewing installing Windows Progs That hard to make?07:26
Deanodriverhow do you set up a samba share so you don't have to enter in a username and password, kinda like how winxp does it?07:26
asimismoHrdwrBoB: Hmmm. I didn't know /dev/console was a real file.07:26
KarlosIIthat one it doesn't work even with refreshing07:26
jamesI want to install windows on the other harddriove, and still use linux on this one\07:26
MadpilotKarlosII: wild. you might want to hunt around the Ubuntu site and find a webmaster contact, and send them that URL.07:27
HrdwrBoBasimismo: /dev/console the 'console'07:27
jack|ass!drm07:27
ubotujack|ass: I give up, what is it?07:27
NoUsejames Windows Installer will format it for you07:27
HrdwrBoBis the 'console' device07:27
jack|ass!dri07:27
ubotujack|ass: Wish i knew07:27
jack|ass:(07:27
MadpilotKarlosII: that said, it still works fine for me...07:27
HrdwrBoBZain: it's incredibly pointless07:27
KarlosIIMadpilot: I dunno if it's on my end or their end07:27
asimismoHrdwrBoB: Does it make a difference that I'm running md/RAID1, LVM, and evms?07:27
HrdwrBoByes07:27
HrdwrBoBa lot of difference07:27
asimismoHrdwrBoB: :-D07:27
HrdwrBoBin fact that's exactly the problem :)07:27
ZainhrdwrBOB : Pointless for Winxp users?07:28
luitristanmike, ok, lets forget apt-get. maybe you can tell me what should I do with the script to install that smeg that the ubuntu forums put in this page: http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg07:28
HrdwrBoBZain: I'm not sure what you're trying to do07:28
jamesI can't get it to boot from the cd-rom that's why I was hoping linux could do it cause win is already on that other drive but there is a virus and win won't start it will only reboot over and over07:28
NoUsejames I don't think you can install Windows unless you can boot from the CD07:29
asimismoHrdwrBoB: Ok, I'm not 100% capable with those tools, but I managed to get them and keep them running for a while. I had a degraded drive I was going to replace tonight. But after the kernel update I couldn't reboot. So, which of those tools might have caused a problem?07:29
jamesyou are right, but I know the cd is fine cause linux can read it07:29
ZainOkay a linux distro with nt4 gui lets say modded fvvm gui to look exactly like the nt4 one and the linux version of the functions as well but with same ease for example sharing files with other pc's etc.07:29
NoUsejames I'm just saying formatting the drive isn't going to fix that problem07:29
HrdwrBoBasimismo: sounds like the correct modules weren't put in /etc/modules07:30
NoUsejames try chaning your boot order in BIOS07:30
HrdwrBoBand your newly built initrds didn't have evms/lvm/raid support07:30
ZainSo when i for example dl winamp on that distro browsing to it and doubleclicking the exe would be all needed to do for install07:30
HrdwrBoByou'll have to see if you can access it with the live cd07:30
HrdwrBoBcheck the modules loaded07:30
esc_apehello - I am having a dependency proble. wondering if someone could help me out...07:30
HrdwrBoBand add appropriate lines to /etc/modules07:30
HrdwrBoBthen rebuild the initrds07:30
ZainA linux distro for novice users who dont have time to learn?07:30
jamesI'll keep trying to get it to boot from the cd, I have been doing it from the bios, but I thank you for your help07:31
HrdwrBoBZain: as opposed to xmms, which exists and works perfectly07:31
thoreauputicZain: i think it's called "Linspire" isn't it?07:31
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HrdwrBoBnot to mention the plethora of other mp3 players and movie players for linux07:31
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asimismoHrdwrBoB: I'm a little rusty, but I think I can do that. Once I make a change how do I create my new initrd, or does that happen automatically? You mentioned mkinitrd?07:31
jamesI hate windows, especially XP, but I love DOS Games07:31
esc_apeI am trying to install alltray. so I apt-get install alltray and get this error message: "alltray is already the newest version.07:31
esc_apeYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:07:31
esc_apeThe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:31
esc_ape  alltray: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed07:31
esc_apeE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)."07:31
DekaPinkCan I convert a png to an xpm somehow?07:31
Zainwell buddy try to install Linspire on a 486 comp07:31
HrdwrBoBZain: if someone doesn't have the time to learn, then really, they're already doomed07:31
HrdwrBoBZain: 486s are hard rubbish07:32
tristanmikelui, i believe you just save the page to your home directory with the default name, open a terminal, and type ./<nameofscript>07:32
HrdwrBoBasimismo: mkinitrd07:32
Zainlinspire wont even work on pentium pro 133 mhz07:32
tristanmikelui, while IN your home directory that is07:32
HrdwrBoBasimismo: check /boot/ for initrds07:32
asimismoHrdwrBoB: No arguments?07:32
asimismoOk07:32
HrdwrBoBand look at the mkinitrd manpage07:32
asimismoHrdwrBoB: Word. Thanks.07:32
HrdwrBoBno worries :)07:32
HrdwrBoBGL07:32
HrdwrBoBZain: which is also hard rubbish07:33
ZainHrdwrBoB : why cause they have other things to do than sitting in front of linux all day long?07:33
HrdwrBoBZain: you can't have your cake and eat it too07:33
tristanmikelui, but I can't be 100%, I'm still learning too....07:33
HrdwrBoBZain: you don't have to sit in front of linux all day long to use an mp3 player that's easily available on your system07:33
esc_apeso, what should I do about this error message when I try to install alltray...07:33
Zainwell whatabout ACDsee? or even other progs that aint made for linux like photoshop?07:34
HrdwrBoBwhat, you mean like gthumb07:34
HrdwrBoBand GIMP?07:34
HrdwrBoBboth of which come with ubuntu?07:34
Zainor the countless games that aint ported07:34
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HrdwrBoBZain: when you can make those games work easily, let me know, there's a pot of gold at the end of the rain bow for you07:34
Zainthats what wine's for07:34
Zainyeah u think everyone is a hacker07:35
HrdwrBoBno, I most certainly do not07:35
HrdwrBoBI deal with non hackers in here on a daily basis07:35
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ZainThats why i have ideas to start Linux NT07:35
HrdwrBoBbut "I'm too lazy to learn anything and too cheap to buy windows" isn't really a good market to be aiming at07:36
thoreauputicZain: I think you are studiously avoiding HrdwrBoB 's point :)07:36
ZainTo have one linux with same ease as NT07:36
ilba7ranyone using xfce find it too slow to boot up?07:36
HrdwrBoBZain: in many cases it's easier07:36
Zainso your time you spent to learn linux is worth 0?07:36
bob2no, but that investment is amply rewarded07:36
bob2also, ranting about things being too hard is off-topic07:37
bob2if you actually want to help, join #ubuntu-doc and write docs07:37
bob2or submit patches to make things easier to use07:37
Zaini just asked if my project was hard to make for dev's thats all07:38
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HrdwrBoBZain: it's not too hard, it's just (in my opinion) a bad idea07:38
bob2if you have to ask, then it's too hard for you to do07:38
Zainas more or less most linuxes aims for newer and newer hardware i would have minimum req's 486 PC07:39
ilba7r!xfce07:39
uboturumour has it, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/07:39
bob2then go for it07:39
ilba7r!xfce407:39
luitristanmike, thank you man, I'm sure in anytime I could help you with some problem ;)07:39
ubotuilba7r: I don't know07:39
HrdwrBoBZain: sure, I'll gather up all the 0 people I know using lower than P3 class hardware who will use your system07:39
tristanmikelui, did it work?07:39
aruxfce is pretty07:39
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Zainthe girl next door uses p13307:40
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Madpilotso we now have a sample size of... one.... cool07:40
Zainshe installed win98lite and feels happy with what she has07:40
ilba7raru i agree but do not know why soo slow on my pc anyway will try the link ubotu gave07:40
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tristanmikethere's a Win98 lite???07:41
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Zainlitepc did a shellhack making it use win95 shell and deleted ie from installer07:41
benplauttristanmike, yup... not official, though07:42
Zainprograms get faster response cause of that07:42
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bob2cafuego_: sheep?07:42
tristanmikewow, probably better then..... :s07:42
luitristanmike, just right now it works well, well :)07:43
Zainyup more stable07:43
bob2if removing a browser makes your OS more stable, you have already lost07:43
Zaingreat for reviving old Pc's07:43
Zainbut still not a free alternative for them ;)07:43
tristanmikelui, wow, that's great news, it means not only did I get to help someone, but i shows I'm taking the first steps to learning Ubuntu/Linux :)07:43
luitristanmike, of course I make it executable, that's one of the things I learned here07:44
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tristanmikelui, right07:44
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Zainactivex/Overactive desktop removal aint good enough? win95 gui didnt activex07:44
tristanmikebob2: lol07:44
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scrofularegeya: squirrelmail -- I understand that to build it from source, I'd unpack the tarball in e.g. /var/www (on my system, the DocumentRoot is actually /home/foo/public_html, but you get the idea.) However, I just installed it using apt-get, and it put files in /etc/squirrelmail and /usr/share/squirrelmail but none in my DocumentRoot. What am I to do -- make a symlink or something?07:44
Zainits still windows just less evil :)07:44
Madpilotand more illegal07:45
scrofulasorry, s/regeya/re:07:45
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tristanmikewould that be like Wine or Cedega?07:45
tristanmikejust not as....07:45
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Zainwhy illegal? litepc makes sure users already have win98 and win95 and makes the installer out of avaiable files that user provides07:45
scrofulashould I just get the tarball of squirrelmail and put it in the DocumentRoot?07:45
DekaPinkAnyone have any experience installin the Quake III demo?07:46
scrofulaand if I do that, should i apt-get uninstall it?07:46
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Madpilotah, OK. if it's done that way, it's legal - but still seems pointless...07:46
bob2scrofula: why not just us the ubuntu version of squirrelmail07:46
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scrofulabob2: that's what I did07:46
scrofulabob2: but it doesn't work out of the box07:47
DekaPinkI'm at a loss for what to do with the linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh07:47
PoromiesZain: why are you talking all this windows stuff here? This is a help and support channel for ubuntu-linux?07:47
DekaPinkfile.07:47
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cyphasehey everyone07:47
bob2scrofula: and by that you mean ...?07:47
bob2DekaPink: it had no instructions?07:47
LinuxRocsame from me ( hey everyone )07:47
maewho likes monodevelop>?07:47
DekaPinkbob2: Not that I saw.07:47
ZainMadpilot it wasnt pointless for a friend who complained about laggyness on his pentium 2 when i installed win98lite he was overjoyed07:48
aruyou guys know of any good writing programs for prefessionals07:48
scrofulabob2: I need to configure it correctly, but all the docs assume that you're downloading the tarball, rather than apt-getting ubuntu's version (which is what I did)07:48
robotgeekaru: latex07:48
cyphasedoes anyone know what might be wrong with my installation of ubuntu? whenever i connect another hard drive, it has a kernel panic07:48
cyphaseit says something like "Kernel Panic - Attempted to kill init!"07:48
maeopen office?07:48
HrdwrBoBaru: define 'professional'07:49
bob2scrofula: that's really not true07:49
robotgeek:)07:49
scrofulabob2: even if I get the tarball (which has clear installation docs) I will have two versions, unless I "apt-get remove squirrelmail"07:49
bob2scrofula: you run the config script and it sets it up fine07:49
cyphasearu, openoffice is good, as well as abiword if you want a less heavy word processor07:50
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deFrysk gedit07:50
bob2then you just access it07:50
bob2all done!07:50
cevizogluaru: vim07:50
LinuxRocdeFrysk: right on! use gedit07:50
deFrysknano07:51
bob2scrofula: of course, so don't get the tarball07:51
scrofulabob2: okay, but I need to decide on two directories before I can run the config script: one for the index.php and assorted webpages, and another for attachments07:51
deFryskemacs07:51
robotgeekhe wanted a professional writing system, not a text editor07:51
LinuxRocnano is nice when new to other prog like Vim07:51
robotgeekemacs is not a text editor, it's an os!07:51
cevizoglurobotgeek: that depends on your definition of a professional writing system07:51
aruI've been using openoffice.org but I need something like writersblock 307:51
bob2what on earth is a "professional writing system"?07:52
robotgeekaru: never heard of it07:52
cevizoglubob2: exactly07:52
deFryskbob2, something you have to pay for hehe07:52
scrofulabob2: the confusion stems from the fact that apt-get put everything in /etc/squirrelmail and /usr/share/squirrelmail (which are both outside of apache2's DocumentRoot.07:52
FubI have the whole kernel panic thing, do anyone know if there is a place to download the deb package for the old kernel?07:52
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aruI'm not sure what latex is but I don't think its what I need07:52
cevizogludeFrysk: ah, but do you pay for it in learning/tweaking time, or in cash?  or both?07:52
LinuxRocI guess he can use a program called ted07:52
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scrofulaaru: openoffice rocks!07:52
dibbonDoes anyone know where I can get a list of softwares supported by Ubuntu?07:53
deFryskcevizoglu, if .exe , probably both07:53
dibboni am thinking of switching to ubuntu from gentoo07:53
kemikaru:  i heard LaTeX is what pro's use ;)07:53
cevizogludibbon: don't do it, you'll never switch back!07:53
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deFryskdibbon, you might get bored then07:53
dibbonbored?07:53
dibbonwhy?07:53
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kemik(afaik know, Calculus is written entirely in latex)07:53
scrofulabob2: should I link /home/foo/public_html/squirrelmail to /usr/share/squirrelmail ...?07:53
deFrysknothing left to tweak and stuff , it works fine out of the box07:54
dibbonbut CAN I tweak it?07:54
dibbonIf I want?07:54
bob2scrofula: dude07:54
deFryskdibbon, yes07:54
bob2scrofula: the Debian maintainer is not dumb07:54
bob2scrofula: dpkg -L squirrelmail07:54
arukemik: but I'm not sure it does anything useful07:54
dibbonThen why would I not want that07:54
LinuxRocI agree, I switched from Slack and I currently experiencing the boredom :(07:54
dibbonDoes Ubuntu support limewire?07:54
bob2scrofula: note that it put a config file in /etc/ that told apache how to find squirrelmail07:54
bob2dibbon: no, but it will probably work07:54
deFryskdibbon, if you install java the ubuntu way limewire wil work fine07:54
LinuxRocisn't limeware a java app07:55
scrofulabob2: because I know apt-get put everything I need on the system, but it still isn't accessible from the web. (Also, I already did the "dpkg -L" thing to see where the files went.)07:55
LinuxRocI like amule better07:55
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bimberidibbon: you browse the package lists via http://packages.ubuntu.com/07:55
dibbonperfect07:55
scrofulabob2: aha! /etc/squirrelmail/apache.conf right?07:55
aruhttp://www.writersblocks.com/ <- something like that07:55
scrofulabob2: I should look at that next!07:56
deFryskdibbon, also no need to rent lotr 1,2,3 during install ;p07:56
robotgeekaru: http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page07:56
LinuxRocha ha funny deFrysk07:56
bob2scrofula: yes, apache1 should have already read that file07:57
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bob2because squirrelmail added an include to the bottom of /etc/apache/httpd.conf07:57
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LinuxRochow do you guys install java?             install, manual install? java-package?, misc .deb found on the web?07:58
scrofulabob2: I am using apache2 -- is the syntax different? I know I had a lot of trouble with VirtualHost entries and finicky syntax on the changeover.07:59
bob2wiki.ubuntu.com/Java07:59
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bob2scrofula: all you need is a ScriptAlias line, I'd think07:59
bob2look at how apache1 did it07:59
Madpilot!tell LinuxRoc about java07:59
scrofulabob2: if squirrelmail added an include to the bottom of /etc/apache/httpd.conf then I probably just need to tweak it in the apache2 conf to match that.08:00
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bob2yes08:00
scrofulabob2: thanks -- you've at least given me a lead. I will look at that for a bit and lurk here ...08:00
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salviuskonqueror question -- anyone know why it loads websites so slow, or sometimes just refuses to load them?  when I switch to Mozilla after, it takes longer too, but then it runs fine08:01
Fubis there a way to download ubuntu packages manually?08:01
scrofulabob2: (switching to another GNU screen via Ctrl-a 0 for a bit)08:02
scrofulaFub: I recommend using apt-get update && apt-get install packagename08:02
durtsalvius: use opera08:03
scrofulaFub: unless you mean building packages from source, in which case you just do it the old-fashioned way: get the tarball, tar -xvzf taball.gxz, read the INSTALL docs, make, make install.08:03
DekaPinkhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/153908:03
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DekaPink^ That's what's happening when I try to run the quake 3 demo file.08:04
salviusdurt: yes, but I'd like to be able to get conqueror to at least function.   if the package is broken this is no good...08:04
deFryskFub, apt-get -d <package>08:04
scrofulaFub: strike .gxz and sub .gz08:04
Fubscrofula, it's a bit complicated. My kernel paniced when I updated last time, so I'm following the guide from the forums, using a live cd. However apparently pppoe doesn't work over chroot08:04
scrofulaFub: that was a typo08:04
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DekaPinkThat little black window pops up... I don't know what the deal is.08:05
scrofulaFub: ooh, you are over a dialup? I have only ever used DSL and cable, so pppoe is not my area of expertise.08:05
Fubit's a kind of dial up, yes08:05
knoppixspyware/adware?08:05
Fubbut it's damn annoying08:06
bimberiFub: You can download packages via http://packages.ubuntu.com/08:06
salviusso, if anyone can help; having problems with konqueror; it loads pages slowly or not at all.  other browsers are not manifesting the problem08:06
deFryskwget -c <url> is downloading with resume enabled08:07
Fubbimberi, ah, that was exactly what I was looking for:)08:07
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P8ntKidIs there anyway to watch a DVD on ubuntu? I have mplayer isntalled and all of the codecs and such08:07
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TziHi =)08:07
TziDoes anyone have the file 'dvb-dibusb-5.0.0.11.fw', or 'dvb-dtt200u-1.fw'?  I've just got myself a USB digital tv tuner, and it needs the firmware.... Good ol' linuxtv.org appears to be down, though, so I can't retrieve it..08:07
bimberiFub: :)08:08
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LinuxRocThanks for the java help.  Things change pretty fast around here.08:08
knoppixhey, I program java!08:09
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knoppixthey're okay when used correctly08:09
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deFryskknoppix, better when not used ;p08:09
P8ntKidIs there anyway to watch a DVD on ubuntu? I have mplayer isntalled and all of the codecs and such08:09
knoppixthere should be a package you can get for watching dvds....08:10
salviusso, if anyone can help; having problems with konqueror; it loads pages slowly or not at all.  other browsers are not manifesting the problem08:10
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deFryskP8ntKid, install totem-xine and use totem08:10
knoppixhey - knoppix is just until my kubuntu finishes downloading!08:10
durtspeaking of totem...08:10
cihadslm08:10
cihadmillet08:10
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CodeusHey, what is the name of that Photoshop clone for Linux? I saw it on some random blog once, it wasn't Gimp but it was more of a Photoshop clone for Linux08:11
knoppixeye of gnome?  I don't know...08:11
cihadwhat is gimp08:11
durtmy totem doesnt run properly for some reason08:11
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knoppixGNU IMage something or other...08:11
tristanmikecihad, a photoshop clone08:11
tristanmikelol08:11
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MadpilotCodeus: GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program, AFAIK08:11
Codeushaha no, not gimp08:12
knoppixMacromedia Fireworks 'till I die (or get photoshop, whichever happens first ;)08:12
Madpilotsorry, that was for knoppix08:12
Codeusi saw this program once that was just like a total flatout Photoshop clone08:12
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scrofulabob2: The conf in /etc/squirrelmail/apache.conf looks sane08:12
knoppixyou saw fireworks08:12
tomajhow do you burn mp3 files to a cd as an audo cd?08:12
knoppixit looks and behaves EXACTLY like photoshop08:12
Madpilotyou can get something called "GimpShop" - it reconfigures the GIMP to act a lot more like PS08:12
scrofulabob2: but there is nothing in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf08:12
knoppixthere's a good lawsuit there somewhere...08:12
cyphaseCodeus, it's Gimp made to look like photoshop i think08:12
scrofulabob2: should I just copy the relevant VirtualHost entry over?08:13
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tomajcyphase: that's wrong08:13
tomajcyphase: they look completely different08:13
P8ntKidhaha thanks, Totem is playing hte DVD perfect08:13
knoppixokay, g'night!  May the Force be with you.08:13
cyphasetomaj, well, i dont know08:13
tomajcyphase: ignore me im a retard08:13
cyphasei just remember reading an article a while ago08:13
tomajcyphase: i didnt see the whole arguement08:13
durttomaj: get gnomebaker08:13
tomajthanx durt08:14
durtor xcdrtoaster08:14
cihadHow to install Flash Player Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox on ubuntu ?08:14
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Madpilot!flash08:14
ubotuI heard flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:14
tomajwhich looks nicest durt? which has the best user interface?08:14
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durtgnombaker i guess08:14
tomajthanx08:14
deFryskI like graveman08:14
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babyfirewhat up durt08:15
babyfirehey peopels08:15
durtare you chinese babyfire08:15
babyfirelol08:15
babyfirei am sometimes08:15
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durtok08:15
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babyfirewhat up08:16
Romik41hello I'm fresh ubuntu user :)08:16
durthello08:16
babyfirehi Romik4108:16
babyfireme too i am sooo soo confused most of hte time08:16
cyphasewelcome Romik4108:16
babyfirebut durt is awesome08:16
deFryskcoriander rocks for burning audio cd's tomaj try it its just drag and drop08:16
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tomajdeFrysk does it work with m4a? gnomebaker doesnt seem to08:17
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deFrysktomaj, any soundformat gstreamer takes coriander takes08:18
deFryskso try it ;)08:18
tomajok thanx deFrysk08:18
Romik41Yesterday I have received disks by mail... so, I'm russian and my english is very terrable(yet)08:18
tomajdeFrysk uh it says its for digital cameras in synaptic08:18
durtjust about to say that08:19
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deFrysktomaj, ooh wrong prog I mentioned , a sec08:19
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tomajlol08:19
ymorhello08:19
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vjserpentine is good for audio cds08:19
durtdid you get your sound working yet babyfire08:19
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deFrysktomaj, serpentine!08:19
deFryskvj thanks ;)08:20
tomajthanx vj and deFrysk08:20
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Romik41how can I get VPN on ubuntu?08:20
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deFryskso many progs in linux , driving me nuts!08:20
tomajits not in synaptic for me deFrysk08:20
deFrysk! serpentine08:20
ubotudeFrysk: I give up, what is it?08:20
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Madpilot!info serpentine08:21
Madpilot!+info serpentine08:21
ubotuPackage 'serpentine' does not exist.08:21
deFrysktomaj, its in ubuntu-backports08:21
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babyfireno sounds yet durt08:21
tomajdeFrysk extras?08:21
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tomajok08:22
tomajdeFrysk?08:23
deFrysktomaj,  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted08:23
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deFrysktomaj, thats the one I use08:23
babyfirenow i am trying to get it to type chinese charecters08:23
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babyfireand japanese08:23
tomajok08:23
tomajthanx08:23
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BirdFishWhat would I enter into /etc/fstab to mount and be able to read an ntfs drive?08:25
BirdFishI just need the options08:25
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topylitomaj: serpentine is in hoary-extras i think, it's not in hoary08:27
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babyfireno durt i am not really chinese just study it08:28
babyfireand take karate08:28
durtlol08:28
babyfireand i wnat to be able to read the I ching in chinese08:28
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durtthats kung fu08:28
babyfirepa kua08:29
DekaPinkhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/153908:29
durtneehow jiji to08:29
topylibabyfire: install pyching and get your daily i ching readings in english :)08:29
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babyfirebut if you get it in english you arnt geting it in chinese!!!!!!!08:30
babyfiredo you understand the colossal differance08:31
durtwhat the hell is the i ching08:31
babyfireit is the book of changes08:31
benplautdurt: chinese phylosify08:31
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topyliheh08:31
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babyfirethe changes of hte DAO08:31
durtso this is what the flower children study?08:31
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grahameanyone nice want to help me with a mirroring question?08:31
babyfirelike dharma the changes of the wind and the currents in space08:32
Movoedu.au?08:32
durtjust kidding of course08:32
tomajserpentine doesnt burn m4a08:32
Movofor a second there you had me thinking you were me08:32
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topylidurt: some of them. i think most of them follow one hindu variant or another08:32
tomajhmm ill have to get nero on windows again08:32
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topylitomaj: can't find serpentine? i got it from backports08:33
babyfirei love daisies08:33
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durtjconnell, thats a good name08:33
durttomaj: maybe you could convert those m4a's to mp3s08:34
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babyfireand bakes08:34
babyfiresmoking is bad for you08:35
topylibabyfire: it's the healing of the nation ;)08:35
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p_Obabyfire?08:35
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durttomaj: see this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/17055308:36
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topylii have to set up openvpn. this is potentially a very stressful quest :(08:37
tomajdurt converting m4a to mp3 is like evaporating coffee to get quick coffee mix08:37
babyfirei made a promise to  myself that i would only bake and vapor and stema and infuse and tinictire an macurewith it08:37
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babyfiresteam08:38
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topylii only do it on days that begin with a T. like tuesday, thursday, today...08:38
helloyotomaj, quick coffee mix you can take anywhere ;)08:38
babyfirep_O a copper?08:39
durthelloyo is exactly right tomaj08:39
babyfirethats coo yo08:39
durtyou can take a cd anywhere08:39
tomajhelloyo: true but m4a is a superior codec and i'd rather burn it through windows than converting it into an inferior codec08:39
tomajjust because windows is mainsream it doesnt mean we should use it...08:39
cevizoglusad.. I just threw away and re-encoded all my m4a's08:39
durtit gets converted to .wav anyway08:39
durtso just convert to wav and then burn08:40
cevizogluinto mp3, that is08:40
helloyotomaj, yeah, i'd rather be using ogg then mp3, but its just so much more convenient to do what everyone else is sometimes08:40
tomajdurt nevertheless its lossy to lossy which leads to supercrap08:40
tomajhelloyo so should i dump linux and use windows?08:40
tomajits more convenient and easier08:40
tomajits certainly just as free ;)08:40
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durtread that url and just convert to wav then burn08:40
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tomajdurt ill just use windows its easier that way08:41
lenny_hello08:41
topylitomaj: it's true, i sometimes have to convert some oggs to mp3, but i only make copies without losing the oggs :)08:41
durtbut wav is not lossy08:41
durtits the best out there08:41
tomajimho its just easier to use nero because i dualboot, durt that would take longer lol08:41
topylidurt: flac is smaller, and lossless08:42
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lenny_can someone help me:  I just compiled a 2.6.12 kernel from kernel.org, but for some reason it can't read my drive.  I enabled ext3 to be compiled in the kernel (not as a module).08:42
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durtbut it is still worse than wav because you can do more with wav08:42
topylisure08:42
durti love wav ...08:43
tomajdurt you must love big hdds too08:43
topylihard drive manufacturers love you08:43
durtlol08:43
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durtjust delete the wavs after converting08:44
pastyhermityay ubuntu is settin up :D08:44
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pastyhermithey tell me is there a way to automatically upgrade to the next version when it comes out?08:44
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topylidurt: oh i thought you keep your music around as wavs :)08:44
topylipastyhermit: yes08:44
pastyhermitI put it on the laptop but I had to take the HDD out and put it into another laptop that had a CDROM drive isntall then move it back08:44
pastyhermittopyli: yeah?08:45
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pastyhermitRight now its "Registering Documentation" I wonder how long that will take08:45
durtpastyhermit: thats what im going to do!08:45
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topylipastyhermit: yes you can upgrade. just change the distribution name in your sources.list and upgrade08:45
durttell me if your method works08:45
pastyhermitand 'upgrade'08:45
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lenny_no help with the kernel change?08:46
pastyhermitdurt it works I had to change a line in grub.conf off the menu cause it was booting into hdc instead of hda08:46
topylipastyhermit: just one command (or click)08:46
pastyhermitthis laptop is hdda the one I installed was hda08:46
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kemik"apt-get dist-upgrade"08:46
pastyhermittopyli: what command?08:46
pastyhermitahh ok08:46
pastyhermitthanx08:46
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topylipastyhermit: heh, upgrading already?08:46
Fubis there a boot command for using a different root directory?08:46
pastyhermitits runing scroll-keeper, heh its almost done08:47
pastyhermitFub: sure just pass the argument to the kernel08:47
topyliFub: grub has a command line, so you can pass any command to it08:47
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lenny_ok, how about this:  Is there a way you can put ubuntu patches on a vanilla 2.6.12 kernel?08:48
cafuego*SNEEZE*08:48
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Fubwell... I'm booting from a livecd and I want to use hda2 as root08:48
pastyhermitwell its fireing gnome08:48
pastyhermitlinux root=/dev/hda208:48
cafuegoFub: linux root=/dev/hda208:48
Fubok08:48
Fubthanks08:48
pastyhermitlater dudes08:48
pastyhermitI gotta get this thing all setup08:49
pastyhermitlate08:49
pastyhermitr/exit08:49
cafuegothat may or may not work depending on initrd and kernel availability08:49
cafuegos/kernel/module/08:49
topylilenny_: the ubuntu patches are only packaged for .10 and .11 but you might get them for .12 from breezy08:49
durtwhere can i find out how to patch my kernel right?08:51
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lenny_I am getting the impression that ubuntu does something wierd with the filesystem.  2.6.12 won't synch on it.  I read on some forum that it would work as long as I picked ext3 to be compiled in the kernel, but this doens't appear to be true.08:51
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ketkar!ndiswrapper08:51
ubotuI heard ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:51
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hardw1re!nvidia08:52
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia08:52
topylidurt: the vanilla kernel has documentation (at least used to) on how to apply patches correctly08:52
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durtok08:53
lenny_How can I get the 2.6.12 breezy linux-source package?08:53
lenny_for x86_6408:53
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hardw1re:o08:53
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Deanodriverhmm08:54
Deanodriver!samba08:54
ubotumethinks samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently08:54
hardw1rewheres the optomizing nvidia page gone?!08:54
Deanodrivercool :)08:54
topylilenny_: use the web search at packages.ubuntu.com, it's open source :)08:54
jamesis there anyway for me to install DOS on the same harddrive as Linux?08:54
lenny_cool, thanx?08:54
durtwould it be a good idea to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.12 or just stick with 2.6.10?08:55
lenny_it's probably comical to see a newb like me screwin with the kernel crap :)08:55
topylijames: yes. if you only want dos (no windows), install a dos emulator like dosemu or dosbox08:55
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durtyes lenny me too08:55
topylijames: so you don't need to dual boot08:55
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topylidurt: it would be good to stay with your distro's stable kernel and not have to worry about it yourself. unless you have some compelling reason to upgrade08:56
jamesok but I may need help actually installing the dos emulator on my system08:56
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jayparadisewhen compiling a kernel does "make" automatically do make modules?08:57
jameswhich is better dosemu or dosbox?08:57
cafuegojayparadise: then compiling a kernel, you should be using make-kpkg, which does.08:57
topylijames: first decide what you want. dosbox is better for old dos games, dosemu is more useful in everyday work08:57
durti think im going to recompile because i need to install the experimental toshiba acpi driver08:57
Ex-Cyberjames: depends on what you want to do, but generally I would say dosbox is more useful unless you have a slow processor08:58
durtso while im at it should i upgrade?08:58
jayparadisewell make just got done08:58
durtor would that have few benefits?08:58
jayparadisenow looks like i need make modules_install install08:58
jamesI just want to be able to play dos games08:58
jayparadiseis that right?08:58
topylidurt: you probably won't gain anything. just grab the official ubuntu 2.6.10 sources and start hacking08:58
durtthanks08:59
topylijames: dosbox it is08:59
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jamescan you recommend a site I can download it from?08:59
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topylijames: it's in ubuntu. "sudo apt-get install dosbox"08:59
jamesI type that in terminal?09:00
cafuegojayparadise: install 'kernel-package' and read the docs. really.09:00
benplautyeah09:00
topylijames: yes09:00
jamesI love you guys you are so much help09:00
jameswindows doesn't have help like this09:00
lenny_what does dosbox do?09:00
ixizHow do I install the msttcorefonts, on Ubuntuforums.com it says I should add "universe" repository and and download it afterwards with apt-get, but when I cache it, it does not find any msttcorefonts package, and I did a apt-get update09:01
Madpilot!tell ixiz about repos09:01
topylijames: you'll need more help in installing the games, but i have never played with dosbox, so...09:01
durtlet me see ixiz09:01
jamesas long as it uses dos commands, I'm good to go09:02
Madpilotixiz: the ms core fonts are in Multiverse, not Universe09:02
P8ntKidI installed Eterm, but i dont know how to run it...09:02
jayparadisei think i made the whole compilation pointless by doing make mrproper, i will install vmware and it will say " needs to be recompiled because it cant find autconf.h this may happen if you did make mrproper"09:02
ixizlol09:02
ixizeh maybe that's the reason09:02
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topylijames: it could be that freedos (which dosbox comes with i think) is not sufficient for every game and you need to replace it with ms-dos. but try first09:02
P8ntKidHow do you run eterm?09:03
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MadpilotP8ntKid: probably type "eterm" at a command line09:03
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P8ntKidMadpilot, I did09:04
jamesnow it says E: Couldn't find package dosbox09:04
P8ntKidjon@Jonslinux:~$ eterm09:04
P8ntKidbash: eterm: command not found09:04
P8ntKidThats what i got.09:05
P8ntKidBut it is installed09:05
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MadpilotP8ntKid: no idea, sorry. ask Google?09:05
P8ntKidi did09:05
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lenny_crap09:05
Madpilotjames: do you have Universe repos enabled? that's where dosbox is09:05
sigith9yuhuiiuiuu09:05
jameswhere do I enable Universe repos?09:05
sigithuy09:06
IceDC571why the hell does my sound blaster live sound so much better in linux?09:06
Madpilot!repos09:06
topyliP8ntKid: could be named "Eterm" with a capital E09:06
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96909:06
benplautyup, it is09:06
Madpilotjames: see ubotu's post above ^^^09:06
jamesk09:06
sigittrf7i09:06
P8ntKidtopyli, Yep, that was it, Thanks!09:06
sigitgggg09:06
Deanodriverhmm09:07
sigithai09:07
sigitpopok basah09:08
Deanodriveris there any way to make a samba user not be able to log into this system?09:08
sigitjames where are u09:08
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Deanodriverie: the user is only able to share files with samba09:08
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nate_Uh I'm having a problem09:08
Deanodriverwell, access shared files09:08
jamesI'm at that site, but I don't know where to go09:09
nate_Trying to install Java, through the Ubuntu Starter Guide.09:09
nate_I have never had this problem before.09:09
Madpilotjames: just follow the directions on that AddingRepositories page...09:09
Madpilot!java09:09
ubotujava is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:09
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nate_But now when I go to install it through the terminal it says it can't find it09:09
topyliDeanodriver: dunno, perhaps their login shell could be /bin/false. not sure09:09
Madpilotnate_: see ubotu above ^^^09:09
Deanodriverhow do I do that?09:09
ixizHow do I add multiverse, if I only added Universe?09:10
Deanodriveri've only just added the user so other people on my network can access my shared files09:10
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jamesoh ok I dig it09:10
topyliDeanodriver: in the "users and groups" tool in the system -> admin menu09:10
ixizShould I just add the line "multiverse" in my sources.list ?09:10
Deanodriverok then09:10
Madpilot!tell ixiz about repos09:10
nate_See that is the problem09:10
lenny_If I know my system uses the ATI IXP chipset IDE support in the kernel should I change it from module to being compiled in the kernel?  Does that add some sort of advantage?09:11
nate_I do that, and it still says it can't find java.09:11
ixizMadpilot: yes but the first guide did not help09:11
Deanodriverand then change the shell in the advanced tab to /bin/false?09:11
topyliixiz: just add multiverse on the line you have universe on. for example, see http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list09:11
Madpilotnate_: the package is called j2re...something - search for that09:11
nate_nothing09:11
ixizthx09:11
nate_I may have screwed up the text file XD09:12
nate_anyway to restore it to its original settings?09:12
Deanodriverawesome, thanks a lot, time to try it out :)09:12
Deanodriver(by logging off and on again)09:12
Deanodriveractually09:12
Madpilotnate_: you need the hoary-extras repos enabled to get the j2re package09:12
Deanodriverthat can wait09:12
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nate_I know09:13
nate_I edited the file so I can get them09:13
topylinate_: most editors make backups. if you have a file "foo.txt", you should have a backup file called "foo.txt~" in the same directory but it's hidden09:13
Madpilotixiz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96909:13
sammie_nate when you got the repos sorted i think09:13
sammie_only think its called sun-j2re1.509:13
nate_"sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup"09:13
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nate_"sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"09:13
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nate_So does that mean there is a backup?09:13
durtit sure does09:13
topylii guess09:13
nate_Okay, how can I get it/09:14
Madpilotnate_: see that URL I posted for ixiz above - it's got a complete list of official and unofficial Ubuntu repos09:14
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nate_I screwed up the text file Madpilot, I'm trying to figure out how to restore it so I can fix it.09:14
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durt"sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list_backup /etc/apt/sources.list"09:15
Madpilotnate_: use that URL, it's a sources.list paste09:15
Deanodriverthanks a lot, seems to work :)09:15
ixizMadpilot: I found out, I just needed to knew if the solution was to add 'multiverse' after each 'universe' line in sources.list, and now it works :)09:15
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nate_found it, never mind09:15
nate_thanks guys09:15
ixizand thank you for the help09:15
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jamesHey it's working woohoo09:17
IceDC571how would i transcode an avi file to a dvd compatible format?09:18
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jamesok so now how do I use dosbox?09:18
sammie_james .............. run dosbox09:19
topylijames: i don't have the slightest idea. just run "dosbox" and you should have dos09:19
sammie_and type intro in your newly formed dos window09:19
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jamesdon't mind me I'm a dough-head09:20
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ketkar!w2codecs09:20
ubotuketkar: Not a clue09:20
ketkar!codecs09:20
ubotucodecs is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:20
jamesI typed dosbox and now I have dos09:20
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topylicongratulations on the regression :)09:20
jamesthank you09:21
BirdFishI'm having a bunch of problems getting my ntfs drive to mount on here.09:21
BirdFishCan someone please help?09:21
lenny_I think you have to first type something like "apt-get install ntfs"09:21
Belutz!ntfs09:21
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab09:21
lenny_Or you can do what smart people do09:22
durticedc5235325354: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/34871909:22
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nate_nate@MR-KICK-ASS:~$ su09:23
nate_Password:09:23
nate_root@MR-KICK-ASS:/home/nate # apt-get install sun-j2re1.509:23
nate_Reading package lists... Done09:23
nate_Building dependency tree... Done09:23
nate_E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.509:23
nate_root@MR-KICK-ASS:/home/nate #09:23
nate_root@MR-KICK-ASS:/home/nate #09:23
BirdFishubotu: right now, I can mount the drive and see it as root, but when I go to click it in "computer" it flashes a windows and then closes09:23
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, BirdFish09:23
lenny_btw- thanx for the packages.ubuntu.com .  ya'll changed my whole world :)09:23
nate_AFTER I did the extra repos09:24
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durtubotu: i love you09:24
ubotuWish i knew, durt09:24
durtIceDC571: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/34871909:24
topylinate_: please don't paste entire shell sessions on the channel09:25
lenny_Maybe I should start using slackware or gentoo09:25
IceDC571durt: thanks :)09:25
nate_Sorry, didn't know it was against rules :(09:25
topyliread the topic :)09:25
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sammie_sun-j2re1.5 is already the newest version.09:26
orlokhey, the new kernel has support fot sata_uli09:26
sammie_sun-j2re1.5 is already the newest version. ;)09:26
orlokany suggestions on how to move a disk running ubunto from sata_via to sata_uli?09:26
sammie_its there somwhere09:26
nate_its not working.09:26
nate_I've done this many times.09:26
nate_I don't get it.09:27
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chrismydo i need to check(MD5SUMS) the ubuntu linux installation after downloading?09:27
sammie_=\09:27
topylichrismy: it's smart, to ensure your download was successful09:27
durtnate_: did you "apt-get update"?09:28
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lenny__what the hell was that09:29
chrismytopyli, thanks. what is the command for checking and which MD5SUMS to use? i am now downloading the AMD64install http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/09:29
topylichrismy: on linux, you use "md5sum" :)09:29
chrismytopyli, without the 's' at the back?09:30
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topylichrismy: and the md5sum to see should be clearly named according to the disk image. (yes, no 's')09:30
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chrismytopyli, ahh ok let me find where is it in the page09:31
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durtis there a more detailed gnome app like system monitor available?09:32
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chrismytopyli, no none of it which named accordingly or without the 's'09:32
chrismy*them09:32
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TziIf anyone does have a copy of dvb-dibusb-5.0.0.11.fw, from  http://linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/dvb-kernel/firmware/dvb-dibusb-5.0.0.11.fw?rev=1.1& or http://www.linuxtv.org/download/dvb/firmware .... Please please let me know =) I'm desperate!09:32
chrismytopyli, what should i do? ubuntu does not have that to let us check?09:33
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ycombhowdy, running into a problem here with breezy colony 3 install - just up and hangs trying to install language-support-en update. Any ideas appreciated. :)09:33
topylichrismy: the MD5SUMS file has the sums for all the images09:33
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chrismytopyli, 46135038af6dd2ef36fd8d521afe7de4  ubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso    ok i see mine there. so what should i do next?09:34
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lenny__does anyone know why the ubuntu file system isn't readable from other distro's livecd's or the vanilla kernel?09:34
ThardasShouldn't Mozilla Firefox be included in the default installation?09:35
topylichrismy: run "md5sum ubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso" in your download directory and compare the result with the one in the MD5SUMS file09:35
lenny__They both give similar errors something about unreadable block 0 or whatever09:35
MadpilotThardas: it is09:35
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ThardasMadpilot: I installed Kubuntu and there's just the language pack.09:35
ThardasStrange.09:35
topylichrismy: it's easy to see, if your image is bad, the result will look completely different. no need to go character by character09:36
MadpilotThardas: heh, no idea about Kubuntu, but it's certainly installed by default in Ubuntu09:36
ThardasI'll try #kubuntu. :) Thanks for help.09:36
chrismytopyli, ah that is all?(rhetoric). THanks man! i will do that later. i am still downloading ite image file. good conection but bad service09:37
topyliok09:37
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chrismyok must go now to bring my mum home from work...cathc you all later!09:38
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bradis anyone elses comp running way faster after these recent breezy updates?09:39
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ycombok - I guess no one has seen that problem. Can hoary install onto LVM, so that I can go that route and get back to breezy with a dist-upgrade?09:39
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IceDC571wait a minute.. if i saved a file with gedit as blahblah without a file extension.. how does it know its a text file?09:40
IceDC571very interesting..09:40
aleitnerif i manually install a new gnome panel applet. how can i make it visible in the "add to panel" dialog, without logging out and logging back in?09:40
MadpilotIceDC571: Linux is smarter than Windows09:40
IceDC571aleitner: killall gnome-panel09:40
topyliIceDC571: unix doesn't care about filename extensions09:41
aleitnerIceDC571: wow, that sounds rather rude (;09:41
IceDC571i know unix doesnt care about file extensions, im just surprised it knows what to open the file with09:41
topylialeitner: it will respawn09:41
IceDC571aleitner: its the command you use to reload the gnome-panel09:42
aleitnertopyli: i know. but still (;09:42
topyliIceDC571: run the "file" command on any file, like "file foo.txt"09:42
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aleitnerIceDC571: i thought there might be a "nicer" way to do it. anyway it didnt work. i guess i will have to re-login...09:42
Madpilotsome of the individual apps aren't as smart. GIMP saved & reopened a jpg with no file extension, but OO refused to import it until it had an extension...09:42
IceDC571well OO is cross-platform, so theres your answer09:43
topyliMadpilot: OOo might have some windows legacy there :)09:43
IceDC571topyli: totally09:43
Madpilottopyli: probably09:43
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IceDC571i dont know what to use.. openoffice or abiword09:43
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IceDC571i've tried both but, i just want to know which one is more compatible with file standards09:44
Madpilotdoes abiword deal with MS formats like OO does?09:45
topyliIceDC571: OOo is still better with MS formats. gnumeric may handle Excel files a bit better, but abiword still has problems with .docs09:45
osfameronOOo doesn't deal with about 50% of MS Word documents I get sent09:45
topyliosfameron: OOo 1 or 2?09:45
osfameronthe one with Hoary09:45
Madpilotosfameron: interesting. haven't had any problems myself09:45
topylime neither09:45
topyliOOo2 is even better09:46
osfameronactually, the 50% problem is what I had when I tried on Windows a year ago09:46
sammie_for word documents i use word .......... =x09:46
osfameronthe 2 documents I tried to open with Hoary didn't work, so that's 100%09:46
topyliheh09:46
osfameron(but a very small sample)09:46
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Madpilotvery small. your statistical analysis needs some work! ;)09:46
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topyliosfameron: what sort of docs? very technical, with math equations and tables? or what is the problem?09:47
osfameronMadpilot, but then I loath OOo already, so I don't need much persuasion :-)09:47
{GuNNeR}could someone help me regarding getting my s-video out on my laptop to work in ubuntu?09:47
Burgundaviaosfameron, the OOo guys are pretty receptive about those kinds of issues09:47
osfamerontopyli, it was a word attachment with the agenda for our residents association meeting09:47
osfameronI saw it printed out, pretty banal really09:47
Burgundaviaosfameron, email them the .doc and they will look into tit09:47
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topyliosfameron: doesn't sound like much. file some bugs!09:48
Madpilotosfameron: that sort of thing should be sent around as PDF anyway...09:48
topyliMadpilot: that sort of thing should be text in the email, not an attachment at all :)09:48
osfameronMadpilot, yes, and pigs should fly also09:48
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Madpilottopyli: true enough, but people like their fancy formatting! ;)09:49
osfameronI'll happily pass around the cluestick to inexperienced IT colleagues09:49
osfameronbut I'm not about to start lecturing my resident's association and random family and friends09:49
topyliMadpilot: i just got a confirmation on my attendance in a conference. in an excel spreadsheet no less :)09:49
MadpilotOuch09:49
osfameroninvitations to company events in Powerpoint is always nice too :-)09:49
topyliyah :)09:49
ubuntuMicro-snatch?09:50
ubuntudfgh09:50
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ubuntuMicro-snatch?09:51
ketkar!java09:51
ubotujava is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:51
topyliMadpilot: i guess i'll confirm by writing "yes i'll come" on a napking, taking a photo and sending it as a jpeg :)09:51
DrSpinso I'm trying to rip a CD -- it's ony; ripping at 2.5x -_-09:51
DrSpin*only09:51
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topylinapkin even09:51
Madpilottopyli: heh. great idea09:51
osfamerongah, Openoffice specifically states that their support mailing lists are public, even mail to webmaster etc.09:51
DrSpindma is enabled and I tried setting unmaskIRQ to see if it sped it up any -- nope -- anyone got any ideas?09:51
ubuntuMicro-snatch?09:51
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DrSpin??09:52
ubuntuMicro-snatch?09:52
osfameronI don't really want to forward a residents assoc. agenda to a public mailing list, not that it's all that private, but I don't much like the idea09:52
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DrSpinLOL -- I'm using Grip and CDParanoia with paranoia off09:53
Madpilotosfameron: fair enough point....09:53
mypapitDrSpin, *cough* *cough*09:53
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DrSpinmypapit: LOL09:53
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hussamWill the game nexuiz run on hoary?09:54
bartekphi09:54
topyliall nethack lovers look at today's user friendly comic :)09:54
durthussam yes09:54
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DrSpinmypapit: any ideas? or just germs? -- thank by the way ;)09:55
hussamdurt: ok cool. I'll download it from sourceforge09:55
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Madpilothttp://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050816  <-- Bill is probably not amused...09:56
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durthussam: you need the linux version (.run not .zip)09:57
durthussam here: http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=6409:57
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cihadhi09:58
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DrSpinao snyone??09:58
cihadwhat is default username and password webmin09:58
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DrSpinw00t -- up to 4.2x now  :/09:59
DrSpinit used to rip at 8-10x then I reinstalled :/09:59
cihadwhat09:59
cihadwhat is default username and password webmin09:59
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ketkar!backports09:59
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section09:59
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topylicihad: you need to enable root logins for a while and login to webmin as root. then make another webmin user (you) with all the permissions. then disable root again10:00
hussamdurt: http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=64 gives an error10:00
durthussam: i had that too - just download the torrent10:01
hussamdurt: I can't do p2p, I'm behind proxy10:01
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durtoh...10:01
cihadwhat is default root username and password ?:(10:02
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XomboXhi, is it possible to install Ubuntu and still keep Windows XP?? I mean a multi-system disk.10:02
topylicihad: there is none, root logins are disabled completely10:02
topyli!rootsudo10:02
uboturootsudo is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:02
Madpilot!root10:02
ubotusomebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:02
MadpilotXomboX: you can keep XP, why you'd want to is another matter... ;)10:03
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MadpilotXomboX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo10:03
dcunyThe main problem with installing XP and Linux on the same box is that Windows likes to overwrite the MBR...10:03
durthussam: if your able i could upload it to you overnight10:03
DrSpincan n e one tell me why I'm only ripping Cd's at 4x ??? DMA=on; idecore=6610:04
XomboXMadpilot: thank you10:04
durtdcuny, install windows first10:04
dcunyUrm... Yes, I just thought I'd point out the obvious. :-)10:04
hussamdurt: I'm not directly connected to the internet so that won't work10:04
KarlosIIdurt I just livecd to change the mbr back10:04
hussamdurt: the zip it what? the source?10:05
XomboXdcuny: I have allready installed win XP and I would like to try Unbuntu and do not lose my old system and be able to choose which I would like to boot at the start of my pc10:05
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cyphasehow long until you don't need to restart your computer for a new kernel?10:06
cyphase:)10:06
MadpilotXomboX: Ubuntu can set that up for you on install - check that URL10:06
osfameroncyphase, I'm enjoying not having to restart for new software :-)10:07
XomboXMadpilot: okie, I will check it out10:07
cyphaseosfameron, me too :)10:07
dcunyThe document Madpilot linked to should answer most of your questions.10:07
naliothy'all be good10:08
hussamdurt: the zip is the source?10:08
naliothquit10:08
cyphaseunlike other operating system, which need to restart whenever they download an image update10:08
cyphase*souch* windows *cough*10:08
nalioth /quit i say10:08
osfameronand macosx on some updates10:08
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dcunyQuestion: I'm running the LiveCD, and wondered if I can mount my hard drive. The DiskManager shows them, but I can't figure out how to mount them.10:08
cyphasedcuny, try adding the disk mounter applet to the panel10:09
cyphasei've never tried it though. it might not work10:09
durthussam: sources and windows stuff10:09
dcunyOK. I see the removable media, but not the hard drive.10:09
hussamdurt: I'll download the zip and try to compile it from source then10:09
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XomboXMadPilot: and is it necessary to download the System Rescue CD ISO image, I am not able to download :-(( because of my deadly connection speed10:10
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kemik!realplayer10:10
uboturealplayer is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:10
equexanyone heard of linux breaking chipsets/etc ?10:11
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equexcos after i installed ubuntu, my computer started freezing up.. now even in windows..10:11
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cyphasedcuny, mount -t FILE_SYSTEM /dev/DRIVE_ID /the/mount/path10:11
kemikequex:  really?10:11
cyphasewith sudo10:11
MadpilotXomboX: you mean the LiveCD? not if you're sure you want to install - just grab the Install CD10:11
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cyphasesudo mount -t FILE_SYSTEM /dev/DRIVE_ID /the/mount/path10:12
equexyeah kemik :(10:12
azriel0184hi guys, what do i need to do to be able to use startx?10:12
equexand one of my ramsticks suddenly got over 40 errors on it, had to remove uit10:12
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kemiki dont think it was linux fault though10:13
azriel0184i get this message when i try: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.10:13
kemikmost likely a bad chip to begin with10:13
XomboXMadPilot: no, I mean the third step no the page you have sent me ("3. Download the System Rescue CD ISO image (100 MB very useful softwares)")10:13
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kemikazriel0184:  have you somehow mucked up the permissions so only root may startx?10:13
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kemikazriel0184:  try "sudo startx" ... (not that it's recommended)10:14
azriel0184kemik, i havnt touched them, but maybe thats it. how do i set the permissions?10:14
Ol1v1aHHHHHHHHHH10:14
kemikazriel0184:  "man chmod"10:14
Ol1v1aooooooooo10:14
azriel0184kemik, that workes10:14
azriel0184kemik, just chmod the X executable?10:15
MadpilotXomboX: to be honest, I'm not sure. Both Ubuntu installs on this box have been onto blank drives...10:15
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azriel0184i thought it might be a config file somewhere :)10:15
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kemikazriel0184:  depends.. im not sure what you've done.. but you should not have to use sudo to startx10:15
topyliazriel0184: chmod +x filename.foo10:15
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azriel0184topyli, i know how to use chmod10:16
TomT64where's the doc and faq on how to mount your windows drive10:16
XomboXMadPilot: okie, I understand10:16
kemik!ntfs10:16
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab10:16
kemikther you go TomT6410:16
topyliazriel0184: ok :)10:16
AlexChey guys, i am an ubuntu newbie and just loaded the live cd. i went to open up firefox and my internet didnt work (i have adsl connected to a router) any suggestions?10:16
TomT64thank you10:16
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TomT64wait wait10:16
TomT64where's the step by step on it?10:16
TomT64didn't there used to be one?10:17
kemikAlexC:  do you have DHCP or static IP? (most likely dhcp, no? )10:17
DrSpinAlexC -- what type of router?10:17
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dcunyre: mounting the hard drive. I'm running plain old vfat, not ntfs.10:17
azriel0184root@benny:/usr/X11R6/bin # ll X10:17
azriel0184-rwsr-sr-x  1 root root 7664 2005-04-06 02:06 X10:17
kemikTomT64:  why dont just read the link?10:17
robotgeekAlexC: sbc?10:17
DrSpinAlexC: I work for 2Wire :)10:17
kemikdcuny:  follow ubotu's link10:17
binchillinhe left! thats my question too10:17
TomT64kemik: because you guys are supposed to be helpful and stuff :(   I know there used to be some simple step by step on it10:18
AlexCkemik probly dhcp, but not sure10:18
user1anyone:how do I add NFS to my ubuntu system10:18
kemikTomT64:  i am helpful, now read the damn link10:18
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TomT64XD10:18
TomT64it's just an fstab10:18
kemikTomT64:  or use "man mount" or search the wiki.. but that link is your best option imo10:18
AlexCDrSpin a broadband four port router10:18
kemikTomT64:  no. its a bash-script10:18
robotgeekAlexC: is it a D-Link?10:18
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kemikTomT64:  that will automagically mount your partitions.. PLEASE READ?10:19
jklappenbachOK, I'm back...10:19
TomT64will it mount from other drives?10:19
robotgeekAlexC: basically, can you connect to your router to configure it?10:19
kemikTomT64:  read? try? please?10:19
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jklappenbachI'm having issues connecting to hosts via mozilla.10:19
DrSpinAlexC: who is your service provider?? type # ifconfig what is your IP Addres??10:19
TomT64hey cmon, humanity to others10:19
LoveBug356userl: add nfs-kernel-server from apt10:19
AlexC# ifconfig10:19
kemikTomT64:  you're just being an asshat..10:20
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user1anyone: when I type mount -t nfs localhost:/tmp/junk /tmp/junk1, the comp tells me connection refused. Why is this?10:20
AlexCDrSpin aapt10:20
jklappenbachI'm on a wifi card.  I'm obviously able to connect via the gaim client, and I'm also able to ping from the command line.10:20
kemik"# This utility searches for available HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions, creates10:20
kemik# mount points for them and adds them to /etc/fstab"10:20
TomT64no, I'm just asking questions.  Aside from which, this appears to only mount ntfs10:20
TomT64ok10:20
kemikTomT64:  yes, i see your reading skills are below a 5 year olds :(10:20
TomT64got it thank you10:20
LoveBug356userl: this can be that there is a firewall between the to machines10:20
kemikTomT64:  finally.. :(10:20
dcunyGroovy, it would have worked, had I not screwed things up by mis-mounting them with the 'disks' tool. :?10:21
jklappenbachAny suggestions on how I can debug?  Does mozilla leave a log?10:21
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TomT64kemik: I think you don't understand the spirit of ubuntu10:21
kemikTomT64:  i do, but you refuse to do as instructed and it *really* pisses me of10:21
TomT64It doesn't matter if someone doesn't get it, you keep trying NICELY until they do10:21
binchillinTwo questions from n00b:need help connecting to dial up, and i can't find my floppy drive. gnoppix live install...um is it installed if its live?10:21
TomT64or you shut up10:21
user1lovebug356: its the localhost, though...10:22
LoveBug356userl: try firestarter to see if it is true10:22
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topylimellow down please10:22
KarlosIIkemik: your out of line10:22
user1ok10:22
LoveBug356userl: you still make a network connection10:22
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KarlosIIkemik: I will NOT tolerate this channel becoming full anal asses like #debian is10:23
user1lovebug356: firestarter is not installed on my system10:23
DrSpinTomT64: This channel is not the place if you are looking for the "spirit" of Ubuntu -- all of your answers are on ubuntuguide.org -- but we aren't supposed to recommend it in here... because it's "unofficial" -- This channel was great back in the Warty days10:23
KarlosIIfull of10:23
kemikKarlosII:  heh yes, #debian is great. but really i tried getting him to read the page on 5 lines10:23
KarlosIIDrSpin: this CHANNEL IS TO BE HELPFUL TO NOOBS10:23
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jklappenbachOK, kemik, perhaps you can help me then and take a break from what you were doing?10:23
kemikjklappenbach:  yes, whats the problem ?10:24
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jklappenbach:)10:24
TomT64Ok first of all, I'm not stupid.  I just didn't believe that it could possibly magically load every partition and drive.  It seemed beyond the scope of my imagination10:24
Wilfwho wants to help an out of date noob :\10:24
KarlosIIRemember most NOOBS in this channel ar converts from Microsoft10:24
Wilflike me10:24
TomT64second, I thought it was only NTFS because the bot said so.  SOmeone should fix that10:24
jklappenbachOK, I've been through a few hoops, but basically, I can't get Mozilla Firefox to access anything.10:24
kemikTomT64:  that's fine, but please follow instructions10:24
KarlosIIso give them a break.10:24
Wilfj9ust installed ubuntu10:24
Wilfat a terminal screen10:25
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Wilfhow do i enable the root account?10:25
jklappenbachI can ping a site from the cl, my wifi driver reports that it's connected, and I'm even hooked up here.10:25
Wilfor, what's the default root password?10:25
MadpilotWilf: no such thing in Ubuntu10:25
Madpilot!root10:25
ubotufrom memory, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:25
user1anyone: how can I determine if a firewall is blocking my NFS connections to localhost ?10:25
jklappenbachBut mozilla acts like I don't have a connection.10:25
topyliTomT64: yeah, perhaps ubotu is wrong. the script, however, should work (i've never needed it, but have read it)10:25
kemikjklappenbach:  using some weird proxy-setting in firefox?10:25
mindspinWilf use sudo10:25
TomT64third I thought there was some guide out there which taught me how to do it last time, without a magic script, and that was what I was looking for.10:25
Wilfsorry, i've never used iot, only mandrake back in the 9.x days :\10:25
kemik!ubotu forget ntfs10:25
ubotukemik: i forgot ntfs10:25
LoveBug356userl: just install firestarter10:25
TomT64yeah it does look like magic10:25
DrSpinWilf: passwd root10:26
Madpilot!tell Wilf about root10:26
DrSpinWilf: I suggest you use sudo instead10:26
binchillinhow did i get ubuntu, when ithought i had gnoppix?10:26
LoveBug356userl: it is a program to watch your firewall10:26
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Wilfok sudo is good10:26
Wilfhow do i start x?10:26
user1lovebug356: if firestarter is not on my system does that mean I don't have a firewall running?10:26
Burgundaviabina, gnoppix is ubuntu10:26
jklappenbachThought that might be the case, but I didn't do anything to configure it.  I was using this laptop in my office, and a few of the settings the network manager held through (I put my laptop into hibernate and left for home and popped it open again) created problems.10:26
Burgundaviabinchillin, gnoppix is ubuntu10:26
DrSpinWilf: it's MUCH more secure and becomes rather convenient after a short time10:26
LoveBug356userl: no, firestarter is not the firewall it is just a grafical frontend10:27
kemik!ubotu ntfs is ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . This utility searches for available HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions, creates mount points for them and adds them to /etc/fstab.10:27
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, kemik10:27
DrSpinWilf: the sudo password is YOUR password10:27
Madpilotkemik: we can edit ubotu's entries now, use "ubotu, no, <foo> is <new entry>" to change things10:27
BurgundaviaWilf, call gdm10:27
Wilfaight10:27
kemiktoo long10:27
binchillinah, why not call it ubunto in the first place, that freaked me out10:27
jklappenbachBut no, no proxy settings for mozilla.  Direct connect to the internet.10:27
user1lovebug356: OK, I'll install it now10:27
kemik!ubotu ntfs is ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.10:27
ubotukemik: what are you talking about?10:27
Madpilotkemik: not too long, just don't start it with both ! and ubotu...10:27
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Burgundaviabinchillin, error in gnoppix, for not removing the branding10:27
kemikubotu ntfs is ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.10:27
CoyctecmIs there any channel where can discuss with more challenged topics about ubuntu?10:27
TomT64Madpilot: ha, love the syntax10:27
kemikMadpilot:  ah ty :)10:27
KarlosIIheh10:28
binchillinlol10:28
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Wilfok, all i've done is installed the OS10:28
Madpilottalking to bots - a dialect I didn't think existed a few months ago... ;)10:28
mindspinI wanna add a user with restricted access to several programs, is there an easy way to do this?10:28
Wilfand got to the point this morniung where it asked me to take out the disk and reboot10:28
kemikCoyctecm:  that would be here, i think10:28
Wilfbut i had to go to school, so i just turned it off10:28
Wilfi turned it on this afternoon10:28
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Wilfam presented with a blank terminal10:29
Wilfhow do i start x and get things started?10:29
kemikjklappenbach:  so, there are no proxy settings in mozilla? (you've checked? )10:29
Madpilotmindspin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddUsersHowto10:29
mindspinhaha10:29
jklappenbachyep, direct connect.10:29
kemikMadpilot:  and yes, i think ubotu is open for everyone noe10:29
kemik!tell kemik about ntfs10:29
mindspinthats very basic and doesn't help ;-)10:29
binchillinis this newbie channel?10:29
KarlosIIyes10:29
binchillinok10:29
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CoyctecmI was just thinking that here are too many people asking same questions all over again... One asks something, someone other answers..no discussion at all :/10:30
kemikCoyctecm:  mmh yeah.. but sometimes there's discussion too10:30
KarlosIICoyctecm: then make a FAQ10:30
binchillinnoob talk10:30
KarlosII:)10:30
TomT64so anyoen happen to know a way for a makefile to get the cflags and lflags for python?  like sdl has "sdl-config --cflags"10:30
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kemikbreezy will have a official faq10:30
jklappenbachBy the way, kemik, if you recall our conversation yesterday, I've been busy.  I got chroot setup with a 32bit ubuntu sandbox.  Now I have 64 bit hoary with 32 bit availability for firefox and flash.10:30
CoyctecmKarlosII: I could =)10:30
TomT64!tell TOmT64 about NTFS10:31
jklappenbachCould it be that the 32bit version of firefox is causing issues?10:31
TomT64!tell TOmT64 about ntfs10:31
KarlosIIkemik that would be nice, and it woudl be nice if it was a comprehensive faq10:31
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The_Voxis breezy usable now?10:31
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TomT64oops10:31
dcunyWilf: There are several 'screens' available. You can toggle between them using Ctrl+Alt+F1 throught Ctrl+Alt+F7.10:31
jklappenbachBreezy is usable but unstable.10:31
kemikKarlosII:  think it will be, since it's official i hope it will ;)10:31
KarlosIIThe_Vox: not really10:31
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Coyctecmhmm for hoary how about http://ubuntuguide.org/ ?10:31
The_VoxKarlosII: so...Colony 3 = alpha?10:31
dcunyWilf: Are you sure you're on the graphics page? (Ctrl+Alt+F7)10:31
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kemikjklappenbach:  possibly, but i've never used a 64bit system so i dont know about conflicts etc... :/10:32
topyli!ubuntuguide10:32
Madpilot!ubuntuguide10:32
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned10:32
chrismytopyli, hey good! the characters are all good! thanks!10:32
KarlosII!colony10:32
ubotuWish i knew, KarlosII10:32
binchillinok, i want to figure this out myself as much as possible, but i cannot see my floppy, im being run by gnoppix live10:32
kemikjklappenbach:  and im afraid i'll have to go study some now... exam coming up10:32
Burgundaviatopyli, Madpilot geez, you guys beat me too it10:32
user1lovebug356: apt-get Couldn't find package firestarter10:32
topylichrismy: nice10:32
KarlosIIThe_Vox: what do you think is?10:32
MadpilotBurgundavia: it's Pavlovian response... ;)10:32
Ol1v1ahaiiiiiiiiiii10:32
BurgundaviaCoyctecm, see the ubuntuguide blurb that ubotu just spat out10:32
chrismytopyli, yup they matched :D10:32
jklappenbachBut, then again, I can run either the 32 bit and 64 bit version and same results.10:32
TomT64Is there a way to list the bot's commands?10:32
Madpilot!list10:33
ubotuit has been said that list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage10:33
The_VoxKarlosII: I've been disconnected for the last week or so...which means I have no clue at the moment :)10:33
Coyctecmyes true ubotu, there is just copy/paste stuff...nothing to learn for a newbie10:33
TomT64!list10:33
topylichrismy: so burn baby burn :)10:33
dcunyWilf: If all else fails, 'startx' should restart the X server if it's failed.10:33
cewhaiii10:33
LoveBug356userl: check your repos it is in hoary and in the backports10:33
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kemik!tell kemik about ntfs10:33
chrismytopyli, :P  naw i am booting from usb pen drive.10:33
mindspin#10:33
KarlosIIThe_Vox: is for ppl to test and help eliminate bugs10:33
kemikdid i fubar the !ntfs ?10:33
kemik!ntfs10:33
ubotuNo idea, kemik10:33
kemikoh crap10:33
user1lovebug356: don't know how to check or change the repository10:33
KarlosIII woudl classify that as beta, but technically it's barely graduated from alpha10:34
Madpilotkemik: looks like it - you fixing it now?10:34
binchillin!ubuntu/linux chat translator10:34
chrismytopyli, pen dirve is very expensive but better than the burner. i don't use to burn CDs so a waste10:34
ubotubinchillin: Are you smoking crack?10:34
binchillinlol10:34
KarlosIIheh10:34
chrismytopyli, so is it possible to boot from usb pen drive?10:34
kemikubotu ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.10:34
ubotukemik: okay10:34
kemik!ntfs10:34
ubotuntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.10:34
kemikfine10:34
mgcrossHey all! Anyone know how I can add xmms-visualizations for use with Amarok WITHOUT installing xmms...don't want it, don't need it...but apt and synaptic want to add it because, of course, it's a dependency...I've dug around for quite a while on my own before I came crawling here for help...10:34
KarlosIIusb = universal serial bus10:34
cewhai10:34
The_VoxKarlosII: that much I figured....my question is...is it alpha or beta quality? I can live with beta (an app crashing every 3 or 4 days) but alpha (system dead bugs) is not for me at all10:34
TomT64probably?10:34
LoveBug356userl: /etc/apt/sources.list10:35
topylichrismy: some boxes (bioses) might. normally i would use a cdrw disk10:35
The_VoxKarlosII: which is why I asked if Colony 3 is alpha quality10:35
chrismytopyli, :(10:35
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KarlosIIoh u added wuality10:35
KarlosIIquality :)10:35
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KarlosIIimho still alpha10:35
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The_VoxKarlosII: good enough answer...I'll wait for the next one lol!10:36
chrismytopyli, according to the mother board(i will get my new machine after this yay!), it will boot from usb. but i am not sure whether or not linux can be installed in that way10:36
cewleh knalan gak10:36
topylichrismy: yeah, the ubuntu installer wants to run from a cd i think10:36
Wilfi think the install is borked10:36
chrismycew, are you malay?10:36
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chrismytopyli, sh*t10:37
chrismytopyli, but no harm of trying eh? hehe10:37
topylichrismy: use an rw, it's not wasted then10:37
topylichrismy: you can try of course :)10:37
jklappenbachAnyone in here know why I can use gaim, but firefox acts like I have no connection?10:37
chrismytopyli, hmm ok how many time can the RWCD be used?10:37
chrismytopyli, i was told some hundred times only10:38
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topylichrismy: i have never come across a cdrw that could not be written to, and i have some very old ones10:38
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chrismytopyli, wow! really!!???? they can be written many many many times??? almost infinite????10:39
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binchillinoh boy10:39
topylichrismy: i have made backups on the same disks for about 2 years, twice a week10:40
chrismytopyli, :O10:40
topylichrismy: once a week actually, work box and home box use different disks10:40
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adriyelhi10:40
chrismytopyli, interesting10:40
mindspinhas anyone here ever added a user with restricted access to several programs ? for example, a user with only access to webbrowser, e-mail and office programs10:40
mindspinand i know how to add a user10:41
chrismytopyli, ok a good one for you. how do i check for my drives? df?10:41
topylichrismy: used space: du; free space: df10:41
topyliuse the -h (human output) flag10:42
adriyeladduser/useradd, then automatically restrict their access to everything but what is required to get a desktop, then give them icons and access to the necessary apps10:42
chrismytopyli, hmm i tried but i do not know how to see it. it is not as interactive and easy to read as windows(i mean the status)10:42
mindspinI know the logic, but how do I restrict access to several programs?10:42
mindspinby changing file permissions?10:42
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topylichrismy: what do you need? find out how much free space you have on a certain disk?10:43
chrismytopyli, could i private you? coz itis forbidden to copy things and paste it here right?10:43
sammie_df -k10:43
topylichrismy: join #flood and paste there10:43
chrismytopyli, yes and all about the basics of how to check drives and devices10:43
Wilfit's just that it boots straight into runlevel 210:43
Wilfi want it to start x automatically :(10:43
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The_Voxtopyli: how often do you reliability tests on those backups?10:44
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chrismytopyli, are you in the flood channel?10:44
topyliThe_Vox: almost never :)10:44
topylichrismy: i am10:44
p_Ocan someone help me with this error message? E: setiathome:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 110:44
The_Voxtopyli: so you know you can write to the CDRWs but no clue if you can actually read em? :)10:44
adriyelwtf? ^^10:44
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topyliThe_Vox: well sometimes i do find files from them and they have worked recently :)10:45
chrismytopyli, yes but you are not replying??10:45
topylichrismy: now i am :)10:45
The_Voxtopyli: well, that's better than not testing them :)10:45
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hendohi10:46
chrismysorry guys and thanks!10:46
hendovery toughey software10:46
hendotoughey10:46
hendotouchey10:46
topyliheh10:47
The_Voxtopyli: I do backups for clients (mostly medium enterprises) and I *really* fear CDRWs for that...I prefer removable HDs sent to off-site locations.10:47
topyliThe_Vox: it's better10:47
adriyelhmm.10:47
adriyel!uname10:47
ubotuadriyel: I haven't a clue10:47
The_Voxtopyli: and I change the HDs for new ones once a year10:48
topyliThe_Vox: OTOH, i synchronize my ~/Desktop between my home and work machines daily. that's the stuff i'm working on10:48
hendohey10:48
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kemikhendo:  got a question? just ask it10:48
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topyliThe_Vox: and old stuff can be found (hopefully) from the backups10:48
The_Voxtopyli: oh! you use your backups for dead fileing?10:48
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topyliThe_Vox: no, they are at ~/Old-documents on my hard disk. but they get backed up as well10:49
The_Voxtopyli: I deadfile to DVDs now...used to do it to CDs...don't use RWs, tho...I just deadfile the stuff and send it to the off-site storage...most companies I work with have a 5-year discard policy10:50
user1anyone: how do I install GTK+ with apt-get ?10:51
topyliThe_Vox: the main thing is to have your backups on the other side of town, so your house/neighborhood can burn and do no damage to your data10:51
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The_Voxtopyli: on most of the companies I work with we have a deadfile server that works pretty much like an anon-ftp site, with a blind dropin directory and read-only dirs to consult10:51
kemikuser1:  "apt-get install <package>" , "apt-cache search <keyword>"10:52
Wilfstartx: command not found10:52
kemikuser1:  or use synaptic10:52
topyliThe_Vox: actually i've been thinking about using gmailfs for deadfiling (my life's work is not so big after all). google's servers should be more reliable than mine :)10:52
The_Voxtopyli: right....we offsite to different places...one of the companies I work with offsites to two different bank voults, one in town and one in a different city10:52
dcunyQuestion: I'm running the LiveCD. I've used the winmac_fstab script to mount my vfat files, but is there a way to mount my existing Linux partition as well?10:53
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The_Voxtopyli: I've been thinking on doing that with some of my small clients...it does sound like a smart way to take advantage of the 100+ gmail invites I have lol!10:53
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topyliThe_Vox: yeah, you can have about 30 of mine too :)10:54
kemikdcuny:  yes, create mountdirectories, and then use "sudo mount -t <filesystem> /dev/nameofdevice /your/mountdir"10:54
fluffybunny_i've downloaded a gnome login theme - how do I install it/use it?10:54
The_Voxtopyli: hehehe10:54
kemikdcuny:  "fdisk -l" will let you see which devices and filesystems you use10:54
dcunyUrgh. Nothing simple, then? (Repeats that hated line: "But I can do it in Knoppix...")10:54
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binchillin!dhcp10:55
ubotubinchillin: I don't know, could you explain it?10:56
The_Voxdcuny: knoppix is more thought about as a rescue disk...ubuntu's live cd is more a technology preview kind of thing10:56
binchillin!if i could explain it i wouldn't be talking to a bot10:56
ubotubinchillin: Are you on ritalin?10:56
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user1kemik: there are a lot of packages that claim gtk, which do I want?10:56
binchillin!dialup connection10:57
ubotubinchillin: Bugger all, i dunno10:57
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tron^is anyone able to help me I have lost mozilla firefox it won't load for me10:57
kemikuser1:  that, i cannot answer :) it depends on what you want to do, or what the application you're trying to run need.10:57
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dcunyThe_Vox: thanks, I was afraid of that. and it's beta too.10:57
dcuny(I like beta stuff, that's not a complaint!)10:58
The_Voxdcuny: file a bug report, maybe the developers will do something about it10:58
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kemikdcuny:  well, addin a partition can be a one-time thing, just add a line in /etc/fstab and it'll mount on every boot10:58
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user1kemik: will gtk2 work for gtk+ ?10:58
The_Voxtron^: what error do you get if you type "mozilla-firefox" at a terminal?10:58
dcunyThe_Vox: OK, will do.10:58
The_Voxkemik: he's booting from a livecd10:58
kemikuser1:  why do you need gtk?10:58
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Tribunewhich application for ubuntu can use wma format?10:59
kemikThe_Vox:  ahh yea, i was thinking if he came to install "the real thing" ;)10:59
mindspinjust for thorapeutic: how can I add a user with restricted access to several programs ? for example, a user with only access to webbrowser, e-mail and office programs10:59
The_VoxTribune: xine and mplayer10:59
user1kemik: trying to install ymessenger10:59
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kemikuser1:  compile or with packages ? it should either way say pretty clearly what you need10:59
Tribunei did try to install xine but fail11:00
Nexinarusjust add the package ymessenger then, user111:00
Nexinarusand apt-get (or synaptic) will add dependencies11:00
The_VoxTribune: how did you try to install it?11:00
user1kemik: packages11:00
Tribunei did try by using command apt-get install xine11:00
The_VoxTribune: xine-ui11:00
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Tribuneok11:00
Tribunei try it noe11:00
dcunykemik: FYI. If I hadn't had such trouble getting X to work a couple months ago, I'd be running Ubuntu. PCLinuxOS won, but since then the video detection problems have apparently been fixed, so I may take that route.11:00
Tribunehow bout mplayer command?11:01
user1kemik: apt-get tells me I need  libgtk1.2  but I can't find it11:01
Tribune apt-get install mplayer?11:01
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The_VoxTribune: yes11:02
Tribuneone more thing..... my window coruppt. so i did istall my window xp.. an it seem my grub no more. how can i install grub to make selection?11:02
kemiktry adding more reposiroties user11:03
The_VoxTribune: boot with the ubuntu CD, there's a way to make it re-install grub, tho I can't give you a step by step because I haven't tried it11:03
user1kemik: I added universe11:04
Nexinarususer1: try add multiverse11:04
The_Voxuser1: probably need multiverse11:04
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andy_alow guys11:04
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Nexinarushi11:05
Tribunelast question. i did install limewire into my laptop.... but it not functioning. i did follow all ubuntuguide step. can u help me The_Vox11:05
andy_can you help me to configure internet sharing?11:05
user1how do I add multiverse?11:05
The_VoxTribune: nop, sorry, never used limewire11:06
fluffybunny_how does one change one's login theme?11:06
Tribunedo ubuntu need any anti virus?11:06
cyphaseno11:06
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Tribunethank a lot guys...11:06
The_Voxuser1:  deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse11:07
The_Vox deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary multiverse11:07
Digisandy_, U need 2 lines11:07
Tribuneseem ubuntu much more easier that fedora core 311:07
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cyphasei need help people. i installed the nvidia driver, and now my computer is completely freezing about every 20 minutes11:07
cyphasewhen i try to uninstall it, X dosn't work11:07
Digisandy_, echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward11:07
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andy_thx digis11:07
Wilfgrr.11:07
Wilfhow to get x started?11:08
Digisand iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE, where eth0 is your external interface11:08
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Wilfrun level 6 is still all next11:08
Wilftext*11:08
Wilfand run level 7 does nothing11:08
user1ok... trying that11:08
dcunycyphase: what does 'X doesn't work' mean?11:08
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Wilfsame. my x doesn't work either11:09
Wilfi can't get into it11:09
andy_digis, thx, i have done it, what is the next step11:09
Tribuneany p2p software for ubuntu? i really need to download lots of songs... lol11:10
Wilflimewire11:10
Nexinaruslinux dc++11:10
Tribuneseem limewire not functioning11:10
WhistlerTribune amule11:10
dcunyWhen I had installed the Nvidia drivers on my machine (PCLinuxOS), it made a backup of the config file.11:10
Nexinarusbittorrent probably11:10
dcunyCany you find your old config?11:10
binchillini cant believe this ubuntu worked, thought for sure i would have device probs with nvidia, just need to figure out internet..........11:10
MadpilotTribune: isn't limewire a java thing?11:10
cyphasedcuny, well, when the system boots up, it shows that messed up ncurses interface saying that X isn't properly configured11:11
Tribunei'm not sure Madpilot.... i'm still new.... did run in window and working fine. but in ubuntu it can't11:11
p_Oyes, and it is hideous11:11
cyphasei can't remember the exact wording11:11
p_Oi would recommend that you not use limewire11:11
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Tribunenot use limewire? why p_0?11:11
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MadpilotTribune: have you installed Java yet?11:12
p_Obecause it is wasteful and hideous and usually tries to download corrupted files to your computer, at least that is what i hear11:12
Tribunei don't think so madpilot11:12
dcunyWhen I took my nvidia stuff off, I basically had two lines in the config file to change. One was the driver (I think it was 'nv'), and the other was the OpenGL library link. Changing thouse back fixed things, but I lost OpenGL.11:12
user1if I install  libgtk1.2 apt-get tells me I need  libgtk1.2-common, if I install  libgtk1.2-common, apt-get tells me libgtk1.2 ... what is going on with this circular dependecy??11:12
Madpilot!tell Tribune about java11:12
binchillinwhy is limewire wastefull, inefficient sharing?11:12
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Thorondorwhen I try to install locales via synaptic i get an error message about "unresolvable dependencies" - what have i done wrong and how can i fix that?11:13
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Digisandy_, try11:14
dcunyIt's for problems like this that you want a copy of Knoppix lying around - the Ubuntu Live won't automount your Linux drives. It's a lot easier to try to fix things in a full environment.11:14
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user1ok I figured it out.... thank you all for your help11:15
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arkais#ubuntu-es11:18
arkaism11:18
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Nexinarusanyone figured out how to install transcode in ubuntu hoary?11:19
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Coloney_Kaiserwooot! go teh coloney grub installer ! it owns11:19
redguywhat is this colony thing anyways?11:20
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Coloney_Kaiserand the live cd works great :)11:20
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Nexinarus!coloney11:20
ubotuNexinarus: Do they come in packets of five?11:20
Coloney_Kaiserredguy: its the beta cds11:20
Nexinarusfunny bot11:20
Coloney_Kaiser!colony11:21
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Coloney_Kaiser11:21
Coloney_Kaiserlol11:21
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Colony_Kaiseris better spelt it seems11:21
dcunyAll right, it looks like you want to edit the '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' file, and change    Driver "nvidia"   back to    Driver "nv"11:21
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Whistleryeaaaaaaaay11:22
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cyphaseoh, dcuny, i think i got it now11:22
drummer87hi, will reinstalling the kernel-modules package overwrite any changes i've made?11:22
redguyah11:22
cyphasei didn't see you typing :)11:22
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Whistleri got opera working on my cell phone11:22
Colony_Kaiserlol11:22
dcunyYou might also want to put in the lines   Load "GLcore"   and11:23
dcunyLoad "dri" .  Don't quote me on this, though! You'll really want to check out the backup to see what it used to have.11:23
Thorondorhow can i fix broken repository entries?11:23
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rob^dcuny, yep you'll wanna do that11:23
Tribuneubotu. can i install java this way? sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.511:23
drummer87i tried the newer ati drivers but didn't work, while doing so i copied some modules to various plasces and when reverting to the once working previous drivers i get mesa :(11:23
rob^!java11:23
ubotusomebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:23
cyphasehere goes..11:24
cyphasebrb11:24
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drummer87noone?11:25
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Myrttiwha11:25
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siimois there a netinstall boot.iso available? i remember seeing one for breezy a little while ago before they started building install disks11:26
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Thorondorhow can i fix broken repository entries?11:30
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Wilfwith a hammer11:30
Wilfand glue11:30
Wilfor maybe some araldite11:30
jklappenbachSo, I hate to come back and ask for help, but I really can't seem to figure out how to get to the bottom of my problem.  There's /etc/hosts.  What other files can I look at for configuration?  Firefox is acting like I have no connection.  I also get a wierd error when I log in, saying that it doesn't know how to find my host.11:31
Thorondorjust tell me if i fucked up my system nad have to reinstall :/11:31
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jklappenbachThorondor: I've had luck with using "sudo apt-get clean"11:31
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Madpilotdoes Synaptic burn ISOs properly?11:32
thenukejklappenbach: I think that it cannot find the host you are trying to connect :)  does the connection work any other way? like IRC?11:32
cosmos_Thorondor: you cannot fuck up system just by fucking the sources.list11:32
thenukejklappenbach: if only web is broken then the problem is in your DNS11:32
redguyMadpilot: Synaptic burning ISOs?11:32
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jklappenbachUm, it's any host, really.11:32
mlabanyone know of a command that will tell me how long a program has been running. I used to do that using tic & toc in matlab?11:32
mlopesi've made a dpkg --get-selections and then --set-selections + dselect-upgrade11:32
jklappenbachI thought it might be an issue with dns, but both entries are populated.11:32
mlopesbut apt-get only removes 3 packages while it should remove ~ 50 and install 30 (on another machine)11:33
redguyMadpilot: That would be quite useless don't you think?11:33
mlopesany ideas why?11:33
dcunyThorondor: If you are using the Snaptic Package Manager, you chould be able to go to 'Settings... | Repositories" in the menu.11:33
Madpilotredguy: Nautilus... sorry, it's late here...11:33
user1anyone: why am I getting this error    # mount -t nfs localhost:/tmp/junk /tmp/junk111:33
user1mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused11:33
cosmos_if you have a bk of sources.list just recover it by overwriting the current one11:33
dcunyThorondor: What in particular are you trying to fix?11:33
redguyMadpilot: it propably does, don't know mysesf, since I use k3b11:33
Thorondorwhen doing apt-get install locales i get http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/154111:34
Madpilotredguy: well, blank CDs are cheap... if it doesn't work, no great loss...11:35
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redguyuser1: you sure what you are doing? got nfs-kernel-server or nfs-user-server on localhost ?11:38
user1redguy: no I'm not sure of what I'm doing. are those packages I need to install?11:39
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redguyuser1: what do you want to do?11:39
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user1I want to NFS mount a local directory11:40
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p_Ocan someone tell me how to make ubuntu use vlc to play movies instead of totem?11:42
kagouhi11:42
redguyuser1: you have to have a NFS server to do that. you have to edit /etc/exports as well11:42
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kagouis there anyone who have built a recent motherboard with Intel P4 ?11:42
dcunyThorondor: Sorry, I'm probably too newbie to answer this. What happens if you try to install glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14?11:42
Burgundaviadcuny, bad things11:42
yahalomkagou: whats ur problem?11:43
user1redguy: Ubuntu doesn't install an NFS server by default?11:43
kagouyahalom, i'm searching for a good motherboard and P4 with AGP support.11:43
Burgundaviauser1, yes11:43
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yahalomkagou: one sec11:43
Thorondordcuny, E: Couldn't find package glibc-2.3.2.dsl-20ubuntu1411:43
airoxhi11:43
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airoxAnybody knows if wpa_gui is in some package for ubuntu ?11:44
yahalomkagou: what have u looked at?11:44
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user1redguy: how do I install one? and portmapper, too?11:44
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dcunyThorondor: Feh. What you're trying to get might just be packaged badly.11:44
redguyuser1: don't think so. NFS server is not a feature that the average desktop user needs.11:44
yahalomkagou: http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20010321/11:45
redguyuser1: sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server. portmap is propably installed as one of the dependencies.11:45
kagouyahalom, i have some experience with athlon motherboard, but now i want to re-build a new intel based pc11:45
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kagouyahalom, Created:11:45
kagouMarch 21, 2001 :/11:45
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p_Owhat does pts mean?11:47
redguyuser1: Forgive me being curious, why do you want to mount a NFS share locally?11:47
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pefhello11:48
redguyp_O: pseudo-terminal slave ?11:49
p_Owhat does that mean?11:50
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andreas__Something is strange with my installation. I cant install Sun jre by using this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre .... does anyone know what's wrong?11:50
redguyp_O: I don't really know :-), try man 4 pts11:50
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Jowig'day all11:51
drummer87hi all, i've borked my ati drivers and modules.. how can i restore the original kernel modules and get rid of anything i did with fglrx, etc.??11:51
n1xt3rpart11:52
Thorondordcuny, i need the package locales to dpkg-reconfigure locales to setup my locales (in which time format to display what and stuff)11:53
yahalomkagou: sorry man. dont knwo whats wrogn with me.11:53
LoveBug356Would it be possible to install linux on a extern-hd and startup on different PC's?11:54
kagounp yahalom11:54
Digisdrummer87, remmove flgrx module, and U need a new xorg.conf dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:54
kagoucu11:54
Jowi!info localechooser-data11:54
redguy!u11:54
ubotuU mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.11:54
ubotulocalechooser-data: (Lists of locales supported by the installer), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.04.0ubuntu17 (hoary), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 76 kB11:54
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{cYanide}hey is there something i can install to play wmv files?11:57
JowiLoveBug356: i wouldn't see why not. most hardware is autodetected. a problem could be the numbering of the HDDs at bios level.... this is a wild guess btw since i haven't tried it myself11:57
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Madpilot!tell {cYanide} about restricted11:58
Jet2k5can someone here help me?  I just built my first computer and I can't install Ubuntu, my keyboard freezes right when it asks me to Select a Language11:58
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timl_Jet2k5: could it be an apci problem?11:59
timl_I had a similar problem with lockups on a laptop I was installing and turning off acpi did the job11:59
Jet2k5timl_: I have no idea man, I'm like a bad noob12:00
vohaulHello. I've just installed Ubuntu and I'm having a few problems. Can anyone help?12:00
Jet2k5I just put this computer together, and I never ever had this kind of problem12:00
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Jet2k5timl_: will these be in expert mode?12:00
timl_Jet2k5: ok, at the boot prompt, hit F1, F2, F3, etc and it'll give you different help pages, on one of them it'll mention turning off acpi12:00
Jowivohaul: ask and you might get lucky that someone knows the answer :-)12:00
timl_something like "linux acpi=off" is what you'd want to type at the boot prompt12:01
timl_but this is all off the top of my head...12:01
Madpilotvohaul: what Jowi just said... ;)12:01
timl_Jet2k5: this is before you get to expert mode, before you do anything else12:01
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Jet2k5timl_: I have a vauge idea of what you are saying12:01
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drummer87Digis, thanks, can i remove anything thst says fglrx? ie, is it safe to do that?12:03
JowiJet2k5: i should be on the F5 screen after you pop in the install CD..12:03
drummer87caus i can see files in various places called fglrx*12:03
JowiJet2k5: the ACPI=off option that is12:03
Jet2k5Jowi: ok, I'm checking the bios with the latest manual from DFI's website12:04
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Jet2k5just to see that I did everything correctly12:04
JowiJet2k5: you do not have to disable ACPI in BIOS.12:04
timl_Jowi: thanks :-) I don't have a bootable machine here to check this12:04
Jet2k5Jowi: eh?12:04
Jet2k5Jowi: I'm not12:04
JowiJet2k5: all you need to do is disable the Ubuntu INSTALLER to use it.12:04
Digisdrummer87, did U installed flgrx using synaptic?12:04
vohaulok here goes. I've got a Voodoo 3 3000 video card and Ubuntu installed everything automatically. Now the resolution default is very small, 640x480 but when I go to change it there are no other resolutions available and the refresh rate is locked at 60Hz as well. I want to be able to get up to 1280x1024 and 85Hz like I do in Windows. How do I fix this? I'm using Ubuntu 5.0412:04
Jet2k5lol I'm just checking to see that I have everything set up12:04
Jet2k5Jowi: I know that12:04
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user1anyone: can you explain this    # mount -t nfs localhost:/tmp/junk /tmp/junk112:05
user1mount: RPC: Program not registered12:05
JowiJet2k5: ah ok :-)12:05
wdhvohaul, try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' in a terminal12:05
wdhvohaul, answer all the questions and you are good to go12:05
drummer87Digis, no, from the .run file from ati.com, i copied the fglrx.ko and fglrx*.ko files from somewhere to other places following a thread on ubuntuforums so think i have more modules than i want12:06
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Madpilotlater, all. Sleep seems like a good idea.12:07
Jowibye Madpilot12:07
Digisdrummer87, I am not sure, but U should check /etc/modules for fglrx entries, and remove them, and create new xorg.conf, than reboot your pc, if everything is working correctly, U can remove all files related with fglrx12:07
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Digisif U create a new xorg.conf with dpkg-reco.... xserver-xorg, it means, than U disabled fglrx support12:08
Slywhats a respectable glxgears output ?12:08
Digisand if fglrx is disabled, it is safe to remove it...12:09
drummer87Digis, thanks, but i have no fglrx entry in /etc/modules12:09
Digisso create a new xorg.conf file and restart X, and later U can safely remove fglrx12:09
JowiSly: over 60fps beats my machine lol (dri not enabled for my video driver yet)12:10
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vohaulthat simple? thanks for that. now for something more pressing. I've been trying to connect to my ISP under Ubuntu and I can fill in all the details. When I try to connect it dials up and connects but almost straight away decides to drop out. I haven't filled in any DNS details or anything like that and I'm sure I could see that it did connect at a certain speed but everytime it decides to disconnect within the second that it connec12:10
drummer87Sly, 1300-ish on my radeon 9250 (before i started skrewing with the new drivers (hehe)12:11
Slyi was just woundering on my laptop i get 200/300 on my main machine between 1100 / 120012:11
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andreas__# sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5 how come?12:12
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Jet2k5ok guys I hit F112:12
Jet2k5now what?12:12
Jet2k5I can' moe up or dow ...12:12
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JowiJet2k5: you have to choose an option by typing it in. follow the onscreen help.12:13
termitor_taffhello, i'm have some bug with pam+ldap (after upgrade for security bug)12:14
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termitor_taffwhat as change?12:14
mofhi12:14
termitor_taffhttp://pastebin.com/343801 <-- please !12:14
Jet2k5I wonder why my keyboard lags behind12:14
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JowiJet2k5: i think you find the acpi option on the F7 screen btw12:15
Jet2k5err says no kernel image12:15
Jet2k5eh ok12:15
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termitor_taffpam_ldap: error trying to bind (Invalid DN syntax) my dn is : cn=admin,dn=intranet,dc=thexxxxx,dc=com12:16
Jet2k5Jowi: ok I'm doing ACIP=off12:16
JowiJet2k5: example; linux pci=noacpi12:17
Jet2k5but it says " To disable ACPI or PCI maps do pci=noacpi12:17
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Jet2k5so which one?12:17
Jet2k5the one they have?12:17
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Jet2k5so do " linux pci=noacpi12:17
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nanotechhi everyone12:18
drummer87brb, see if this works..12:18
JowiJet2k5: yes. or : expert pci=noacpi (if you are going for an expert install)12:18
Jet2k5ok it's going ...12:18
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Jet2k5err it froze ...12:18
Jet2k5says Disabling IRQ #1112:18
kofjhow to get in prompt mode when I am using a ubuntu 5.04 live cd or install cd12:19
yahalomanyone know of a movie editor? i want to be able to edit movies and remove parts i dont want, any ideas?12:19
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yahalomlike mpegs and avis, etc12:19
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JowiJet2k5: don't know how to fix that part man.12:20
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nanotechI am using ubuntu in french and everything is fine except that the OOo interface doesn't display me accents (I have a little squares instead). My locale are set to fr_FR@euro and i believe I installed every needed fonts. I also installed localized packages of OOo. Any help ?12:20
Jet2k5fuck I know I shouldn't be building my own computers12:20
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termitor_taffhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, s/dn/dc/ ouinnnnnnnnn12:21
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Jeanne-Kamikazehi12:22
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vohaulanyone with a clue my second question?12:22
Jowinanotech: I do have a french install on my laptop but OOo works there so don't have that problem. maybe you can check in the #ubuntu-fr channel.12:22
giggseyI have a DVD, which starts with start.exe, with a folder with .VOB files in, how would I play it in ubuntu12:22
Jeanne-Kamikazecould someone help me ?12:22
eliphas_how do i change the version reply in irssi ?12:22
thoreauputicnanotech: maybe ask in #ubuntu-fr ?12:22
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osfameronvohaul: look at the scrollaback.  Can you see a second question?12:22
osfameronvohaul: try asking again :-)12:22
twibblerhi all......12:22
Jeanne-Kamikazeubuntu freezes when i log in and the graphical system starts :'(12:23
airoxhi twibbler12:23
vohaulok i repost it12:23
vohaulthat simple? thanks for that. now for something more pressing. I've been trying to connect to my ISP under Ubuntu and I can fill in all the details. When I try to connect it dials up and connects but almost straight away decides to drop out. I haven't filled in any DNS details or anything like that and I'm sure I could see that it did connect at a certain speed but everytime it decides to disconnect within the second that it connec12:23
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twibblercan anybody help me with unsetting keyring passwords ....12:23
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nanotechJowi, thomerz: i wasn't aware of that channel, i'll go ask there, thank's12:23
giggseywhen I load up one of these .VOB files, todem player crashes12:23
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giggsey*totem12:23
eliphas_morning how do i change the version reply in irssi ?12:24
Jowigiggsey: are you using totem-xine or the "normal" totem?12:24
giggseyno idea12:24
giggseyI think normal12:24
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Jowigiggsey: try to install totem-xine12:24
osfameronmost of the media players seem not to be able to handle codecs not being there very well at all...12:24
giggseyok12:25
thoreauputiceliphas_: version reply? you mean /etc/issue or /etc/lsb-release ?12:25
osfameronthey should bitch about it rather than just crashing12:25
Luna-TickHello everyone, just wondering if anyone knows this off the top of their heads; any idea what the device name (/dev/?) of a serial port on a plugged in USB hub would be??12:25
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Luna-TickNo ideas?12:27
th0gerWhat makes Ubuntu better than Debian (or vice versa)?12:27
Luna-TickUbuntu is easier to use12:27
Luna-Tickand has a much more frequent release cycle12:27
volvoguymy bug report has remained unanswered. it may only be a functionality issue at this point. this machine has intel software raid on-board and the installer won't let me modify the partitions directly - only configure RAID or LVM, both of which warn that data will be destroyed if i continue. should i change my bios setting from "RAID" to "JBOD" (which also destoys data and would require a windows reinstall too).12:27
giggseyand free cd's!12:27
eliphas_thoreauputic, in irssi if I do a ctcp version12:27
Juhazoh yeah, six months is sooo much more frequent than six months12:28
Juhazoh wait, it isn't, it's the same12:28
Luna-Tick...12:28
th0gerJuhaz: :P12:28
Jowilol12:28
giggseylol12:28
Luna-TickCan somebody please correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the difference between debian stables a little more than 3 years?12:28
Juhazoops12:28
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Luna-Tick*wink* now it's my turn to lol12:29
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Juhazalthough most of the people who use debian desktop are probably not running stable, so it still kind of stands :)12:30
Luna-Tickthat is true12:30
joe__does ubuntu have a package manager similar to "urpmi" for mandrake/redhat dists where yuo can specify a package name and it will fetch it form the web and install?12:30
Luna-Tickjoe: yes12:30
ompauljoe__, apt-get install foo :)12:30
eliphas_thoreauputic, found it for the the ctcp version in irssi12:30
joe__oh duh12:30
joe__ty12:30
airoxadios12:31
ompauljoe__, apt-cache search foo <--- allows you to find the name :)  btw you don't need version numbers - but there is a gui tool called synaptic that does all this for you12:31
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th0gerIs ubuntu more like "debian + graphical sh*t" ?12:32
nanotechi solved my problem, i had forgotten this package: msttcorefonts12:32
Luna-TickSo nobody has a suggestion for my device name for my serial port on a USB hub - I'm not even sure if it would be a ttyS....12:32
Luna-TickThog: yes and no12:32
Luna-Tickit is more than that12:32
ompaulth0ger, ehhh no you can get debian +  desktop material if you want - this is more like ubuntu12:32
JuhazLuna-Tick, ttyUSB0?12:33
volvoguyth0ger, ubuntu is a debian based distro with a focus on desktop use, but flexible enough to use in server situations as well.12:33
Luna-Tickthanks ... I'll give it a go :)12:33
clem_yeatsandreas_ : is it for java apps or for the internet ?12:33
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joe__how do you find the correct package names to use with apt-get? ie: sshd ? I tried like apt-get install sshd / install openssh etc12:34
JuhazLuna-Tick, or try locating it in hal-device-manager12:34
Jowijoe__: apt-cache search packagename12:35
Luna-TickThat is an idea... the other didn't seem to work12:35
Jowijoe__: the package you are looking for is called "ssh"12:35
volvoguyjoe__, searching with synaptic may be easier than command line.12:35
ompaul!tell me about sudo12:35
joe__ah12:35
joe__thanks all12:35
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Luna-TickLooks like it was ttyUSB0. Perhaps syncing a palm through a hub was just asking too much12:36
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Jowijoe__: btw, the "ssh" package installs both the server and the client. if you want server only i'd suggest the package openssh-server12:37
Jet2k5Ok hello are people still here?12:37
Jet2k5ah nice Jowi , I fixed it :)12:37
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JowiJet2k5: congrats! what was wrong?12:37
Jet2k5put the BIOS settings to fail-safe and it boted :)12:37
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Jet2k5now I gots a quick questions about my internet connection12:37
joe__jowi yea i tried openssh-server12:38
joe__but it doesn't seem to find the package12:38
Jet2k5says it couldn't configure it because my network doesn't have dhcp12:38
JowiJet2k5: ah, so you got more straight-forward irq numbering mostlikely. very good12:38
Jet2k5so will I use pump?12:38
joe__openssh-client, however, is no problem :)12:38
bedihow  i use screen whit ssh ?12:38
Jet2k5Jowi: aye :)12:38
bediscreen pid.ttyS7.host ?12:38
bedii will use it eith irssi remotly12:39
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Thorondorin aptitude, what does "v" in front of a package name mean? help says "virtual", but that doesn't help me12:39
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Jowi!openssh-server12:39
ubotuJowi: I give up, what is it?12:39
Jowi!info openssh-server12:39
ubotuopenssh-server: (Secure shell server, an rshd replacement), section net, is optional. Version: 1:3.9p1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 253 kB, Installed size: 608 kB12:40
joe__when i search with apt-cache search openssh it doesn't find openssh-server12:40
Luna-TickThanks everyone, esp. Juhaz, even if it didn't work :).12:40
Luna-Tickciao12:40
bediaptitude search sshd12:40
sexcopter8000mhello, how can i make a shortcut to another folder?12:41
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joe__jowi: I have ssh-krb5 package12:41
Jowijoe__: strange. the package name is openssh-server12:41
paulproteussexcopter8000m: ln -s folder new_alias12:41
Slysexcaopter maybe create a laucncher with command12:41
ompaulhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/154312:42
Slynautilus /path/to/folder12:42
ompaulapt-get update issue12:42
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Jet2k5hehe Sly12:42
Jet2k5I've used that nick name up to last year ... :P12:42
ompaulapt-get -f update no use to me12:42
ompauloops apt-get -f upgrade no use to me12:43
sexcopter8000mpaulproteus, brilliant, thanks12:43
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sexcopter8000mwhat's the difference between a hard link and a symbolic link?12:44
Jowijoe__: ssh-krb5 provides rsh-client which clashes with openssh. try to remove it12:44
joe__ya i tried, it's not installed though12:45
joe__when I try and install, I get a conflict with scp that is already installed12:46
apokryphossexcopter8000m: hard link is just a link, isn't it? Symbolic link almost "re-creates" everything inside12:46
joe__but i don't have sshd installed12:46
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Jowijoe__: ssh-krb5 provides sshd as well12:46
sexcopter8000mapokryphos, think i've found some info through "info coreutils ln"12:46
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joe__jowi: yea thats why I was trying to install it12:46
joe__synaptic is just a frontend to the apt-get tools right?12:47
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joe__i think i have to remove openssh-client first, then install ssh-krb512:48
Jowijoe__: i'm using the normal openssh-server and openssh-client so I would'nt know about the krb5 exactly but the two packages are clashing12:48
joe__because it installs client as well, i guess.12:48
sexcopter8000mactually, sounds like a symbolic link is the kind of link i'm familiar with from windows12:48
Jowijoe__: yeah12:48
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sexcopter8000mand a hard link is a bit stronger12:48
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sexcopter8000mso, like, delete a hard link and you delete the original file, for example12:48
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esc_apeubuntu uses ext3 corect?12:48
Jowijoe__: synaptic and aptitude and apt-get are all using libapt as far as i know.12:48
apokryphossexcopter8000m: no. I don't think there's an equivalent of a symbolic link on windows12:48
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Jowiesc_ape: as default, yes12:49
apokryphosesc_ape: correct12:49
joe__there we go12:49
esc_apethanks you!12:49
joe__got it jowi12:49
joe__had to uninstall openssh-client12:49
Jowinice joe__12:49
apokryphossexcopter8000m: if you create a symbolic link of X/ to YY/, X/W will be YY/W12:49
apokryphosbut with a windows link X would link to YY, where you'd get YY/W12:50
sexcopter8000mapokryphos, oh, yeah i can see that12:51
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Jowilol12:51
apokryphosI neeed it. Haven't woken up this early in a few weeks :/12:51
sexcopter8000mapokryphos, but it's closer to what windows does than a hard link... as it says in the info page, the link and the file become indistinguishable12:51
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sexcopter8000mwith a hard link, i mean12:52
p_Ohi kev0r12:52
sexcopter8000manyway, my linkie works, that's what matters :)12:52
yahalomnobody here know about movie editors?12:52
apokryphos=)12:52
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joe__does synaptic/apt-get install usually take care of all the dependancies for you? or do you have to install that all first?12:53
clem_yeats_busy_yahalom : kino12:53
yahalomjoe__: it tells u what ur missing12:53
clem_yeats_busy_joe_ it does12:53
Jowineighbours were really loud tonight so i didn't get sleep until 3.30 am = third cup of coffee this hour.12:53
thoreauputicjoe__: taking care of deps is what apt is for, mainly :)12:53
yahalomjoe__: often it does install the deps12:53
yahalomkino doesnt do it12:53
joe__i thought it woudl but.. complaining about dependancies for apache.. should i just grab a tarball for apache? you think? heh :o12:54
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thoreauputicjoe__: that usually means your sources are wrong12:54
joe__my apt-get sources ?12:54
eliphas_joe why not installing apache from apt-get ?12:54
thoreauputicjoe__: /etc/apt/sources.list12:54
clem_yeats_busy_yahalom : cinelerra ?12:55
joe__yea, I'm using the default sources supplied.. should i not be?12:55
sexcopter8000mam i doing something wrong if my bt for the ubuntu dvd is going at 2-3k/s?? I've never done bt's before :s12:55
clem_yeats_busy_yahalom : http://users.dslextreme.com/~craig.lawson/linux_notes/video.html12:55
Jowisexcopter8000m: bt = bittorrent?12:55
thoreauputicjoe__: did you run sudo apt-get update or reload synaptic ?12:55
joe__yes12:55
eliphas_joe add more repositories12:55
joe__i ran update12:55
sexcopter8000mJowi, yes12:55
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esc_apelinux can read/write to fat32 with no problems right? I have an external harddrive formatted as ntfs, and I am wondering if I should convert it to either fat32 or ext3.12:56
joe__where can i find repositories?12:56
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joe__im using the default http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu atm12:56
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thoreauputicrepos!12:56
Jowisexcopter8000m: probably just the torrent sources that are slow atm12:56
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sexcopter8000mesc_ape, that's what i did12:56
ompaul!repos12:56
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:56
eliphas_add the universe12:56
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th0gerSo, i know debian well; Which new stuff should i learn, if i switch to ubuntu? Is the pkg-management and file structure the same, etc ?12:56
esc_apesexcopter8000m, what did you do?12:56
thoreauputicha - ! at the wrong end - I must be tired...12:56
gilles_hello12:56
eliphas_:)12:56
Jowiesc_ape: fat32 is safe to use. ext3 supports the file permissions which fat32 does not. your choice :-)12:57
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ompaulthoreauputic, well you did not try to fix mine --  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/154312:57
sexcopter8000mesc_ape, i have an ntfs partition for windows, ext3 for ubuntu, and fat32 for "my docs"12:57
thoreauputicth0ger: virtually identical12:57
sexcopter8000mwith the latter being the largest12:57
ompaulthoreauputic, no one did :(12:57
th0gerthoreauputic: nice12:57
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gilles_i'm testing breezy live cd and i'm not able to use 3d apps; nvidia driver is installed12:57
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thoreauputicth0ger: just stick to ubuntu apt sources12:58
sexcopter8000mat a guess, do bt downloads take a while to "get going"?12:58
gilles_somebody can help me ?12:58
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sexcopter8000mgilles_, i can't get the nvidia drivers working on hoary, so if you find an answer, let me know :)12:58
th0gerthoreauputic: instead of synaptic, or what it is called12:58
esc_apesexcopter8000m, I think I'll make it fat3212:59
sexcopter8000mdoes it have windows on it?12:59
Jowisexcopter8000m: mine are slow today. took over 10 minutes to get a connection at all. then they speeded up somewhat but i am not getting anything over 25 KB/s12:59
gilles_me too, driver is loaded and works, but no 3d !!12:59
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th0gerthoreauputic: apt-get works as always i guess?12:59
sexcopter8000mgilles_, if you have no 3d, then they're not really working12:59
thoreauputicth0ger: no - you can use synaptic or apt or aptitude12:59
thoreauputicth0ger: it's just like Debian12:59
sexcopter8000mgilles_, what card do you have?12:59
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th0gerthoreauputic: okay01:00
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gilles_at beginning official drtivers works, but i got some lockups : 6600 GT01:00
thoreauputicth0ger: I meant, don't be tempted to use debian sources for apt - they can clash01:00
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sexcopter8000mhmmmm, i've got a 6600 myself01:00
th0gerthoreauputic: ah ok01:00
sexcopter8000mgilles_, are you on a laptop or pc?01:01
thoreauputic!sources01:01
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:01
gilles_then i try to install nvidia's one and now 3d isn't working either with ubuntu's or nvidia's one !01:01
th0gerthoreauputic: got it01:01
gilles_not laptop01:01
sexcopter8000mhmmmmm, i'm afraid i have no idea01:02
gilles_i've read installed both can cause troubles01:02
sexcopter8000mbut if remember that in /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it says "nv" for the driver it's using ubuntu's own, if it says "nvidia" then it's the nvidia drivers01:02
Jowigilles_: glxinfo | grep direct (to see if directrendering is enabled) might be that the "DRI" option isn't enabled in xorg.conf01:03
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wolkihow stable is breezy right now?01:03
gilles_pretty good for me01:03
wolkii feel the urge to update ^^;01:03
kevornot01:03
volvoguywolki, it's not. only try it if you have a demo machine.01:03
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spanglesontoast!help01:04
twibblerWell now for an annoying little problem on the default keyring if anybody can help.......01:05
joe__bleh, still get a problem with dependancies for apache, it seems like i need apache-utils2 whcih is not in any of the repositories? :o01:05
twibbler/usr/bin/gnome-panel wants access to the default keyring but it is locked ...01:05
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bjorn_!w32codes01:06
ubotubjorn_: I give up, what is it?01:06
bjorn_-_-01:06
gilles_Jowi, in nvidia's doc, they says to comment dri in xorg01:06
thoreauputicjoe__: are you installing apache2 ?01:06
sexcopter8000mbrb01:06
jgjonesI have breezy on a test PC - it's quite stable, but once in a while there are some updates that isn't quite complete (files not yet in resp etc) so you have to wait so if you don't mind downtime you can upgrade to breezy but only if you have /home on diferent partition so that you can restore if you need to :)01:06
ompaulwolki, it is a development model of what will be released next, it will by its nature get broken, and fixed and broken again until it is released that is why it is in development :) have a look at the live CD if you want to see what is coming down the pipes01:06
volvoguytwibbler, have you logged into gnome as root?01:06
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joe__im install the "apache" package, i figured this is latest version of apache.. im using apt-get install apache01:06
Jowigilles_: ah ok. i just tried general dri not specific to nvidia01:07
hubsiback :/01:07
joe__whcih gives dependancy problem cuz i need apache-common,w hen trying to seperatly install this, i get a problem with broken packages01:07
joe__apache-utils201:07
jgjonesWhy not use Apache2?01:07
joe__whcih is not actually in the repository -- so i guess thats why its broken? :o01:07
twibblervolvo nope my normal user ... but I have to type in root passwd to get gnome up...01:07
thoreauputicjoe__: apache2 is latest01:07
joe__there is no apache2 package01:07
jgjonesI'm using Apache2 on breezy - works well enough too without any depenency problems01:08
thoreauputicyes there is01:08
thoreauputic!ibfo apache201:08
ubotuthoreauputic: Are you on ritalin?01:08
thoreauputic!info apache201:08
ubotuapache2: (next generation, scalable, extendable web server), section web, is optional. Version: 2.0.53-5ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 80 kB01:08
joe__there is no apache2 package in my repositories .. shouldn't the us.archive.ubuntu repository have all the available packages?01:08
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thoreauputicjoe__: your sources list is broken. I'd say01:09
joe__all I did was uncomment the repositories..01:09
jgjoneswhich one?01:09
thoreauputicjoe__: paste /etc/apt/sources.list so we can look at it01:10
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thoreauputicin a pastebin01:10
joe__ok01:10
joe__sec01:10
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gilles_how to be sure i'm using nvidia driver ?01:10
twibblervovloguy: Would it be effecting my normal user If I had logged in as root previously ?.01:11
clem_yeatsno twibbler01:11
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apokryphosgilles_: if you have "nvidia" in your xorg.conf, then you are running it01:11
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apokryphosor, at the very least, your next X session will be running it01:12
joe__er.. I'm an idiot, I realized the problem when I pasted it :o01:12
Jowitwibbler: i heard Seveas mention something last week that if you run nautilus with sudo as a normal user it might create havoc with some authentication files. i don't remember the fix though...01:12
gilles_in proc ?01:12
thoreauputicjoe__: :)01:12
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Thorondorhas anyone ever installed Ruby on Rails on ubuntu? i can't find a rubygems package which is needed01:12
joe__I'll save myself the embarrassment and not say what it was, but thank all ;o shoudl take a few hours to install apache on this machine so im gonna go to bed :P01:13
thoreauputicjoe__: easy to do - I made a silly typo in mine and couldn't work out what was wrong a few months back01:13
thoreauputicjoe__: sleep well then01:13
Jowibye joe__01:14
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Slyjoe__ a few hours ?01:14
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Slyi thought it was only a few meg ?01:14
TiKKu^hello, ive got one problem.. i installed the mediacodecs and the mplayer and I did change the default video driver to be "xv" but now when i try to watch anime, the colors are distorted and there is a strange lines going on the video01:15
thoreauputicSly: I think he meant configuring it to his needs01:15
Slyahh that would explain, * Bahs Head On Wall *01:15
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jgjonesI have a problem on breezy but I'm not sure if it's a bug or if it's just me - when I log on to gnome, I get a error about not being able to find my .dmrc file and for it to have 644 permissions01:15
dixigooood morning!01:15
TiKKu^how can i fix this? If i change the video driver in mplayer, i restart it start to watch the episode i notice that the audio and video are not perfectly synced01:16
dixiubotu, znh is from now known as dixi01:16
ubotuokay, dixi01:16
jgjonesI do have the file and it's owned by me as well as my group and it does have 644 permissions and it does have all letters in lowercase...01:16
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HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: ESD sucks01:16
HrdwrBoBkillall esd01:16
twibblerthanks jowi but not run nautilus .... (dont even know what that is)....01:16
jgjonesAny suggests?01:16
HrdwrBoBthen run mplayer01:16
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jean-jacqueshello01:16
TiKKu^and change the xv to something else?01:16
jean-jacqueshow to edit firefox preferences ?01:16
Jowitwibbler: nautilus is the file-manager in gnome. so that wasn't the problem then :-)01:17
HrdwrBoBno, leave xb01:17
sexcopter8000mbrb01:17
HrdwrBoBxv01:17
gilles_when i try to launch "ppracer" , i got "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."01:17
jean-jacquesi mean the user.js of firefox01:17
thoreauputicjean-jacques: erm - click edit --> preferences ?01:17
thoreauputicah01:17
twibblerare file manager run that through gui .... as root ...01:18
jean-jacquesthoreaptic, euh no i'm trying to locate my profile folder01:18
thoreauputicuser.js would be in ~/.mozilla/firefox I guess01:18
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jean-jacquesthoreaptic thanx !01:18
sexcopter8000mhooray! tried the nvidia drivers again, and for some reason THEY WORK! :D01:19
dixiargh.. I wanna go back on ubuntu..01:19
ompauldixi, nobody in here will stop you :)01:19
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NoHopehello all01:20
TiKKu^HrdwrBoB,  now it says "error opening/intializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"01:20
dixiompaul: I know, there's some other reason.. Half-Life 2 and his mods doesn't work with wine.. only with a commercial cedega01:20
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th0gerAnyone knows a debian->ubuntu switching howto?01:20
HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: try 'sdl'01:20
HrdwrBoBas vo01:20
thoreauputichahah - never hit ctrl-w in the wrong window...01:20
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dixithoreauputic: indeed.. that's so anonying01:20
TiKKu^vo -> sdl ?01:20
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kevorarr, ctrl-W kills the window?01:21
dixidepends on the wm, but mostly it does01:21
thoreauputickevor: in xchat it closes the tabs01:21
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TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, still the same error01:22
HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: what is the exact error01:22
dixikevor: in KDE it would close the window If I remember it properly01:22
TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, "error opening/intializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"01:22
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HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: put the whole output on pastebin01:23
JowiTiKKu^: vo = video output (video-output sink) there are several to choose from. anything from SDL, XV even normal Vesa are supported. Maybe if you try to play it in root to see if that works. It might be that a user does not have permission to access the video-device.....01:23
jacquesmerdehey, are any changes to mount/supermount/whatver going/gone into breezy since the hoary release?01:23
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sexcopter8000mwhat's that test people do for their graphics card, where they get some really high fps scores?01:23
dixisexcopter8000m: glxgears01:23
sexcopter8000mthat's the one, is it just glxgears in console?01:23
dixisexcopter8000m: yeah, requires a X server ofc :P01:24
TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, what do you mean by that?01:24
sexcopter8000mheh, ty :)01:24
HrdwrBoB!pastebin01:24
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:24
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MrHey, how do I update BIOS? (I have a zepto 4200 laptop)01:24
dixiMr: by flashing your bios01:25
sexcopter8000m3500-3700 fps a good score?01:25
TiKKu^so HrdwrBoB i paste the mplayer.conf in there..?01:25
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HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: and the output of mplayer when it fails01:25
dixisexcopter8000m: depends on the hardware, but it looks quite good for an ATi card01:25
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TiKKu^the screenshot?01:25
Mrdixi: how? =)01:25
sexcopter8000mdixi: it's an nvidia 660001:25
dixiMr: ask your laptop creator :P01:25
dixisexcopter8000m: what processor/ram/motherboard ?01:26
sexcopter8000mdixi: firstly it's a laptop. running centrino 1.7, 512meg ram, no idea about mobo =p01:26
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dixisexcopter8000m: yeah then it's OK01:27
sexcopter8000mgood =) ty01:27
HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: no jsut the text01:27
dixisexcopter8000m: on a Amd Athlon XP 2500+ you would get over the thousand anyways01:27
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HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: run 'mplayer filename'01:27
dixisexcopter8000m: I mean ten thousand :P01:27
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sexcopter8000mdixi: holy crap, so do you think it's the limitations of a centrino? or just a laptop being a laptop?01:28
TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, here it is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/154501:29
dixisexcopter8000m: yeah the processor might be your biggest bottleneck01:29
TiKKu^i took the screenshot (sorry for that)01:29
dixisexcopter8000m: but for a laptop.. man, I wish I had such laptop!01:29
HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: remove the comma01:29
sexcopter8000mdixi: then that'll do me fine :)01:29
HrdwrBoBthat's the problem01:30
dixisexcopter8000m: yeah!01:30
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sexcopter8000mdixi: yeah, took me aaages to find one =) i got it from mesh and can *thoroughly* recommend them01:30
dixiubotu, dixi means in latin: "I have spoken"01:30
ubotudixi: Not a clue01:30
dixiubotu, dixi is in latin: "I have spoken"01:30
ubotudixi: okay01:30
TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, doesen't help01:30
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HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: run mplayer on the command line01:30
HrdwrBoBit will give more detailed errors01:31
bjorn_!pastebin01:31
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:31
HrdwrBoB!play01:31
ubotuAll work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg01:31
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JohnFluxHey all01:31
dixiHrdwrBoB: is that for me? - I don't play with it? - I USE it01:31
dixihi JohnFlux01:32
JohnFluxI have 2.6.11-1-686-smp   but I need the propretary ati drivers01:32
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dixiJohnFlux: aww.. unlucky!01:32
JohnFluxah01:32
HrdwrBoBdixi: ok that's cool just haven't seen you around or something :)01:32
dixiHrdwrBoB: oh oh :/ - then it's not for me :P01:32
JohnFluxokay, assuming I want to have smp, is my best course of action to get 2.6.10, or to just wait a couple of weeks or something?01:33
TiKKu^so i run it like, sudo mplayer /mnt/c/anime/tsubasa 1-4/[Conclave_SHS] _Tsubasa_Chronicle_-_03_[28D61FB8] .avi ?01:33
TiKKu^woops, sry for the filename01:33
JohnFluxdixi ^^01:33
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HrdwrBoBJohnFlux: either01:33
HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: no sudo, but yes01:33
knoppix_i have a problem anyone can help?01:33
dixiJohnFlux: you should take 2.6.10, it's way more stable and functional01:33
JohnFluxknoppix_: no01:33
JohnFluxknoppix_: because you haven't asked it01:33
dixiknoppix_: what's the nature of the medical emergency01:33
thoreauputic!tell knoppix about ask01:34
eliphas_what kernel are we?01:34
dixieliphas_: the one we install01:34
eliphas_ 2.6.1001:34
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knoppix_i've installed ubuntu on my pc and now i can't load widnowsxp neither ubuntu01:34
TylerEAny lvm gurus around?01:34
JohnFluxdixi: yeah i'm finding .11 is crashing :/   I'm assuming that it's the fall back graphics drivers or something01:34
knoppix_system says "error loading operating system"01:35
JohnFluxknoppix_: what does it say?01:35
HrdwrBoBknoppix_: what error do you get01:35
dixiJohnFlux: I agree, it shoulden't be avai' in apt-get anyways01:35
JohnFluxknoppix_: do you get the grub menu?01:35
knoppix_no01:35
thoreauputicknoppix_: try resetting the BIOS to defaults01:35
JohnFluxknoppix_: are you booting the correct hard disk01:35
JohnFluxif you have several01:35
TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, okay ill paste the error into pastebin01:36
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knoppix_i tried to install ubuntu on a SATA disk could be this the problem?01:36
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JohnFluxknoppix_: possibly01:37
JohnFluxknoppix_: can your bios boot the sata?01:37
dixieverything could be possible01:37
dixi......01:37
JohnFluxknoppix_: do you have just 1 sata disk, and no other hard disks?01:37
TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/154601:37
knoppix_yes, i've configured the bios to boot first SATA and then ATA01:37
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dbernar1Hello.01:38
JohnFluxyo01:38
knoppix_no,i have two SATA and an ATA disk01:38
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JohnFluxknoppix_: and which is windows on01:38
JohnFluxknoppix_: and which did you used to boot01:38
knoppix_first SATA01:38
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eliphas_!knoppix01:38
ubotueliphas_: Do they come in packets of five?01:38
JohnFluxknoppix_: in the bios, try booting each disk01:38
WilfP1 166, 96MB, 3.2GB HDD...which WM?01:38
TylerEWilf: Fluxbox maybe?01:39
dbernar1they sure do, ubotu, in packets of as many as you want.01:39
knoppix_ok ill try it01:39
JowiWilf: I would use ice-wm, fluxbox or Windowmaker01:39
TylerEWilf: That or xcfe401:39
thoreauputicWilf: hrm - blackbox or icewm are others that might work01:39
Wilffluxbox sounds nice01:39
kaptainkwhat do i type in console to delete items to trash instead of completely off my computer?01:39
dbernar1openbox...01:39
dbernar1I use that. Its pretty nice.01:39
HrdwrBoBrm01:39
TiKKu^hmm. why does it give "file not found" :/01:39
Wilfalthough i do like xcfe01:39
HrdwrBoBrm file01:39
kaptainkthanx all01:40
dbernar1no, that wont go to trash HrdwrBoB01:40
Jowikaptaink: no no no01:40
HrdwrBoBoh01:40
Wilfi think good old fluxbox.01:40
dbernar1will it?01:40
kaptainkoh..01:40
HrdwrBoBdbernar1: maybe if I could READ01:40
kaptainkwhat will then?01:40
bimberikaptaink: hang on01:40
Jowikaptaink: rm filename will completely delete the file01:40
thoreauputickaptaink: mv file ~/.Trash01:40
kaptainkok, good01:40
Jowikaptaink: there is no "trashcan" but you can move it to .trash01:40
kaptainkmost helpful01:41
TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, do you know what is the problem? :o01:41
Jowikaptaink: as thoreauputic said :-)01:41
dbernar1thoreauputic: heh.01:41
HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: lookingnow01:41
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HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: er.. there was no file 3.avi :)01:41
dbernar1that is such a hassle, make it an alias along the lines of alias tr='mv $1 ~/.Trash'01:41
bedihow  i use screen whit ssh ?01:42
bedii will use it with irssi remotly01:42
TiKKu^well i opened tsubasa 3.avi01:42
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kaptainkah, maybe stupid question, can i copy text from this window?01:42
TiKKu^should  there not be the space ?01:42
HrdwrBoBbedi: run screen irssi01:43
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HrdwrBoBthen to resume run screen -dr01:43
HrdwrBoBssh to the machine, run screen -dr01:43
dbernar1that doesnt work...:-/ I knew I could write something like that...01:43
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thoreauputicdbernar1: heh - you're a lazy typist, huh? *g*01:43
TiKKu^it says file not found but i see the file clearly01:43
kaptainkyessum01:43
HrdwrBoBdbernar1: meh just use nautilus01:43
dbernar1I couldnt, I meant.01:44
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bedihum01:44
dbernar1I suck at bash, I should ,learn it, its very handy.01:44
carambolwhat is the name of the breezy channel?01:44
bediHrdwrBoB: it seems it openede a new irssi session, hehe01:44
HrdwrBoBbedi: yes01:44
HrdwrBoBthat's what it'll do01:44
dbernar1carambol: #notexistent, afaik.01:44
HrdwrBoBbut it's in a screen session01:44
HrdwrBoByou can now resume it elsewhere01:44
carambolubuntu-dev01:44
HrdwrBoByou can disconnect from screen with ctrl-a then d01:45
dbernar1carambol: that dont exist.01:45
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thoreauputiccarambol: the developers' channel is not a help channel01:45
carambolok,dbernar101:45
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TiKKu^HrdwrBoB, okay the video works now, how about the sound? which should i put instead of ESD ?01:45
carambolok01:45
HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: esd is file, it will fallback to odd01:45
HrdwrBoBoss01:45
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TiKKu^well oss gives no sound01:45
TiKKu^then01:46
HrdwrBoBTiKKu^: killall esd01:46
TiKKu^i did it01:46
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TiKKu^and i started mplayer, opened the file, -> no sound01:46
dbernar1carambol: I suggest you just ask. :)01:46
HrdwrBoBtry it with 'alsa'01:46
TiKKu^seems to work01:47
carambolin breezy prob witk log-in screen01:47
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TiKKu^stange, thank you HrdwrBoB01:47
frans-thhi all01:47
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frans-thanyone can help me the steps to mirror ubuntu hoary repo01:47
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carambolnoHuman Beeing...no Happy Gnome01:48
frans-thwhat are the steps01:48
Coyctecmhow I can change mouse cursos in gdm login screen?01:48
Wilfyou think a P1 166 could run overnight with no cpu fan or heatsink?01:49
frans-thwhat mouse?01:49
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Rondomhello01:49
dbernar1carambol: /msg ubotu ask01:49
carambolhow i configure the login screen?01:49
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dbernar1frans-th, you are one impatient person.01:50
dbernar1carambol: likely gnome-login<tab><tab> and choose one.01:50
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Coyctecmanyone?01:51
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dbernar1carambol: sudo gdmsetup01:51
fransthi all01:51
franstanyone here01:51
dbernar1no01:51
RondomI can't find the gameport under /dev/... I have an asus a8v-e deluxe motherboard with a via 8237 sound chip01:51
franstcan help me to mirror the ubuntu repo01:51
dbernar1dont leave this time, ok?01:51
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pmjdebruijnhi all01:52
caramboldbernar, i will try it01:52
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pmjdebruijni'm looking to buy a new DVD Recorder, what can you recommend me? What works great in Ubuntu?01:52
HrdwrBoBpmjdebruijn: anything01:52
dbernar1Coyctecm: change it from what to what?01:52
HrdwrBoBall the same pretty much01:52
dbernar1he did leave.01:52
pmjdebruijnHrdwrBoB, are you sure? I have a Pioneer DVR-109 here, and it doesn't work properly01:52
dbernar1what a guy.01:52
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HrdwrBoBpmjdebruijn: it should od01:52
HrdwrBoBdo01:52
jamessarawakhi all01:52
yahalomnot on a linux box, can someone do an apt search for gopchop plz01:53
jamessarawakI want to install UBUNTU01:53
HrdwrBoBhow doesn'tit work properly01:53
pmjdebruijnHrdwrBoB, well there's not much I can do wrong...01:53
HrdwrBoBjamessarawak: excellent01:53
yahalomjamessarawak: so do it01:53
jamessarawakthe problem is I got existing partition.. I don't want to destroy these 2 partition what option should I choose when installing?01:53
kemikjamessarawak:  go ahead! :)01:53
HrdwrBoBjamessarawak: you can resize01:53
kemikjamessarawak:  resize the partition using free-space on them01:53
HrdwrBoBpmjdebruijn: what's it doing01:54
Coyctecmdbernar: I like to change this human cursor theme to something else..? I managed ti change it in gnome already but how do I change it that it would apply into gdm too?01:54
jamessarawakwhat software I need to use to resize?01:54
kemikjamessarawak:  a good util for that is Partition Magic..01:54
jamessarawakoh.... so I need that software to resize? I cannot resize it while installing UBUNTU?01:54
kemikjamessarawak:  but it has been said that the ubuntu-installer can resize NTFS partitions, however *I* have not done it/seen it01:54
kemik!resize01:54
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, resize is The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to make space to install Ubuntu.  Even so you should backup important files first.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning01:54
pmjdebruijnHrdwrBoB, it doesn't recognize the media in the drive, while under windows it is recognized01:54
MrJensenIs there a ftp-program in Ubuntu? :O I need one01:55
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RondomI can't find the gameport under /dev/... I have an asus a8v-e deluxe motherboard with a via 8237 sound chip01:55
JowiMrJensen: gftp is nice01:55
jamessarawakwell I'll try take care all :) formating my hardisk right now.. bye01:55
thoreauputicMrJensen: of course - there are several01:55
Rondomdoes anyone know how to do this01:55
MrJensenyeah, of course, but is there a pre-installed one? :D01:56
kemikMrJensen:  if you want SSL support, the easiest would be JFTP, if SSL is not important, go with gftp01:56
kemikMrJensen:  "ftp" works01:56
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thoreauputicMrJensen: nautilus can do ftp01:56
JowiRondom: maybe you can find it with: cat /proc/bus/input/devices01:56
MrJensenokay, I will install gftp then! Cant find any ftp-program under "Programmes"01:57
thoreauputicMrJensen: type ftp://ftp.server.com in the nautilus location field (ctrl-l)01:57
Rondomthx I'll try that01:57
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shuvebdoes anybody know where CPU usage information is available in /proc?01:58
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thoreauputicMrJensen: but gftp is a dedicated ftp GUI program, yes01:58
JowiRondom: you might find it under /proc/sys/dev as well. I don't have a gameport to test with to be sure.01:58
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MrJensenokay, thx :) I'll try it out01:58
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Rondomthe first one only showed me my pc speaker, mouse and keyboard01:59
thoreauputicMrJensen: oh, just in case you didn't know - nautilus is the file manager :)01:59
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RondomJowi01:59
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RondomJowi: the joystick applet in the KDE-Controll Center says that it couldn't find a gameport02:01
uthinihow do i make my login screen a console02:01
uthinirather than a xwindow02:01
uthinii want to install new video drivers02:01
JowiRondom: sorry, i am cooking. erhm... as i said i don't have a gameport but if the driver is setup it should show in /proc/bus/somewhere02:01
uthinibut its impossible with x running02:01
thoreauputicuthini: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:02
JowiRondom: also i haven't used kde in years :-)02:02
can-o-wormsthoreauputic: you are running ubuntu on a mac right?02:02
bimberiuthini: <ctrl><alt>F1 - log in - sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:02
thoreauputiccan-o-worms: I have a mac - currently I'm on a PC though02:02
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kemikuthini:  you should use the binary-drivers though.. there are how'to's for Nvidia and Ati.. (i assuming that's one of those brands you've got? )02:03
uthinithx bimberi02:03
thoreauputiccan-o-worms: but yes, i run ubuntu on an iBook G402:03
bimberiuthini: yw :)02:03
can-o-wormsthoreauputic: i screwed my mac up installing the latest update, and i am trying to salvage some files with the ubuntu livecd....02:03
RondomJowi: does this matter? is there a gnome-app for this?02:03
uthinikemik......... binary drivers? i dl'ed from the nvidia site, it starts a program, then say's sorry for you, u can't install02:03
can-o-wormsthoreauputic: but i can't find any files02:03
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kemik!nvidia02:04
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia02:04
RondomI only wanted to stress, that neither a program nor me can find a gameport02:04
RondomJowi02:04
thoreauputiccan-o-worms: ah - I haven't done that: I guess you mount the partition and explore from there02:04
lillylegsandtoeshello, i have just linked java to my mozzila firefox browser, and now firefox isn't working, can anyone help me fic it?02:04
kemikuthini will come back im guessing.. with lots of troubles02:04
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kemiklillylegsandtoes:  did you follow the java -wikipage?02:04
lillylegsandtoesfix*02:04
kemik!java02:04
uboturumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:04
lillylegsandtoesi can't get on the net02:05
thoreauputiccan-o-worms: something like mount -t hfsplus /dev/blah /mnt/point02:05
lillylegsandtoesso i can't find help :(02:05
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can-o-wormsthoreauputic: i never tried it with the -t option..02:05
thoreauputiccan-o-worms: from memory OS-X uses hfsplus02:05
can-o-wormsthoreauputic: i got one part to mount.. but there are like 5, I'll give it another go02:06
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kemikcan-o-worms:  use "fdisk -l" to see where you're partitons are located02:06
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martin-hi all, i have an Targus PA088 USB2Serial adapter. How can i adresss the serial port in ubuntu? After pulgging in the adapter i see in dmesg: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 302:07
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can-o-wormskemik: I'll remember that, i usually just look at the dev files02:08
kemikcan-o-worms:  its a nice command ;)02:09
can-o-wormsthoreauputic: i got /dev/hda4 to mount with the -t option, thanks02:09
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thoreauputiccan-o-worms: cool :)02:09
thoreauputiccan-o-worms: good luck02:09
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lirazCan someone help me figure out how to compile a kernel module against the right kernel headers? I'm using 2.6.10-smp-i686 but when compiling the alsa bluetooth module it is compiled against 2.6.10 default headers02:10
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lirazso I am unable to load the module02:11
can-o-wormskemik: that is sweet, it shows you a whole lot of cool stuff... thanks02:11
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mortyHi, I just installed php4-mysql - will this enable mysql apis from within php on its own? or is further configuration necessary? as I am gettin gundefined functions for the mysql apis still..02:11
lillylegsandtoesokay guys, i cannot get on the net, so i have no idea of how to fix my firefox, i followed the tutorial supplied with the java site?02:11
can-o-wormsthoreauputic: and you were right about linux being a whole faster than osx02:11
thoreauputiccan-o-worms: indeed :)02:12
kemiki dont find gnome faster than xP though02:13
thoreauputiccan-o-worms: interestingly, even mac-on-linux feels fast on my machine02:13
Jowilillylegsandtoes: dirty solution: apt-get remove mozilla-firefox && apt-get install mozilla-firefox02:13
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lillylegsandtoesthankyu02:13
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kemikmaybe even add the --purge switch02:14
dixiI am back :)02:14
thoreauputickemik: it would be fairer to compare XP to a five year old Linux distro running the then gnome02:14
dixianyways is there some special kernel for an Amd Athlon XP?02:14
kemikthoreauputic:  why is that ?02:14
kemikthoreauputic:  XP with SP1 or 2 or which servicepack they're at :/02:14
thoreauputickemik: because XP is five years old and designed to run on the hardware of that time?02:15
kemikthoreauputic:  gnome does not offer much "extra functionality" i thikn the comparison is legit02:15
dixiyou can't compare such things like that..02:15
kemikim sure i can, i'm doing it right now ;)02:16
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bimberiwhoa - 3 years surely (but that's not the point i realise)02:16
thoreauputic*shrug* try running a few hungry apps at once on XP and tell me it's faster02:16
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frans-thhi pvanhoof02:16
kemikthoreauputic:  firefox works better in XP for one, doom3 also02:16
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kemikthoreauputic:  still im in ubuntu, so ubuntu has other 'benefits' ...02:17
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Jowiwhat is it with linux firefox? when some pages load it just hangs for 5-10 seconds...02:17
kemikJowi:  could be parsing the page02:17
thoreauputickemik: no amount of superficial "snappiness" in feel would drag me back to windows - so yes, i agree Linux has other benefits02:18
frans-thalo02:18
frans-thanyone can help, how can i cannot mirror using this syntax, mirror the ubuntu archive?02:18
frans-thfrans@spirit:~/repo$ rsync --recursive --links --hard-links --times --verbose --compress --update rsync://paster.ubuntulinux.nl02:18
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Jowikemik: yeah, probably. no other tabs can be accessed in the meantime.02:18
pvanhoofit's not the same as what I said FrankyFourFinger02:20
pvanhoofow02:20
pvanhooffrans-th,02:20
pvanhoofrsync --recursive --links --hard-links --times --verbose --compress --update rsync://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ .02:20
frans-thhi pvanhoof02:20
pvanhoofthat is what I wrote02:20
pvanhoofplease don't change it else it wont work02:20
bimberiJowi: This can help - http://ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox - and is one of the (many) bits of ubuntuguide that are OK (IMHO)02:20
pvanhoofI can't help you if you change stuff and don't tell me what you changed, frans-th02:21
frans-thpvanhoof, the dot" is with space or after the releases/. ?02:21
pvanhoofno, you just changed the URI02:21
thoreauputicbimberi: burn the heretic! *grin*02:21
Jowibimberi: cheers, will try that02:21
pvanhoofand you omited the /releases/02:21
frans-thwork now :P 31GB right02:21
mortyi installed php4-mysql -- but mysql apis are still not recognized inside of php script -- do i have to add the module to php.ini?02:21
pvanhoof31 gig right02:21
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frans-thi think the syntact is /releases/ . not /releases/. , a space between / and . right02:22
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pvanhoofright02:22
frans-thmorty: mody the php.ini the mysql extnnsion02:22
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pvanhoofit's not the "syntax" it's defining the source and the destination02:22
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pvanhoofif you don't add the space, you are not giving a destination02:22
martin-hi all, i have an Targus PA088 USB2Serial adapter. How can i adresss the serial port in ubuntu? After pulgging in the adapter i see in dmesg: usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 302:22
frans-thpvanhoof: unbuntu repo for wary and hoary is different right?02:22
pvanhoofyou are adding the . to the source02:22
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pvanhoofno you'll get both02:23
pvanhoofusing this technique02:23
frans-thboth?02:23
pvanhoofboth, yes02:23
pvanhoofit sais "releases"02:23
frans-thwhat for warty?02:23
pvanhoofwith an s02:23
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pvanhoofthere's two releases : warty and hoary02:23
frans-thi think debian ubuntu warty and hoary have the same repository02:23
borfasthi everyone. I'm fighting my way through the instalation of vmware-tools (Ubuntu is the guest operating system) but now X bails out and the log says there's a problem with /dev/input/mice - it says it doesn't exist. I've checked that the file does not exist and even more, I've tried loading "psmouse" and "mousedev" modules and neither exists... can someone help me?02:23
apokryphosfrans-th: quite the opposite02:24
Jowibimberi: that did shave off some seconds on my browsing. wierd to see that pipelining isn't enabled by default in firefox. thanks.02:24
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frans-thpvanhoof, the mirror is all warty and hoary for all platform right. how to fetch only the i586 version02:24
bimberiJowi: yw :)02:24
pvanhooffrans-th, you'll have to wait for somebody else to answer that02:25
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frans-thpvanhoof? somebody else?02:25
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frans-thpvanhoof: what is that mean, sorry, my english bad...02:25
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thoreauputicfrans-th: another person02:26
pvanhoofI don't know02:26
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frans-thpvanhoof: is ubuntu, have their own version of repo in their every release.02:28
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kainosgud pm. im running hylafax server for the first time but im having trouble running it. it says...hylafax server is disabled02:28
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frans-thalo philips r u there02:30
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kemikfrans-th:  debian and ubuntu does not use the same repositories02:31
frans-thkemik: but can share right?02:31
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kainosgud pm. im running hylafax server for the first time but im having trouble running it. it says...hylafax server is disabled02:31
frans-thi just want to make sure my ubuntu here, got update and fast. right now must go to ubuntu.com, and internet slwo here02:32
frans-thi have hoary and trying breedy here02:32
thoreauputicfrans-th: no a good idea - the repos are not in sync02:32
frans-thany tips for mirror02:32
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frans-ththoreau: the repos are not in sync? what is that mean02:32
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Jowifrans-th: if you're in europe, the french servers are speedy02:33
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thoreauputicfrans-th: it means you should not use debian mirrors with ubuntu02:33
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marius__hi..  i am am new to ubuntu..02:33
marius__i just installed it :-)02:33
thoreauputicmarius__: welcom :)02:34
Jowimarius__: congrats02:34
frans-ththoreau: i used it :( is that problem?02:34
thoreauputicand congratulations :)02:34
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eazel7hi02:34
eazel7somebody uses a apache2-php4-mysql hoary?02:34
katrinagud pm. im running hylafax server for the first time but im having trouble running it. it says...hylafax server is disabled02:34
thoreauputicfrans-th: yes it's a problem: using debian mirrors will break your ubuntu02:34
frans-thwhat will be happen if i shre it?02:34
frans-ththoreau: what is that mean? break ubuntu? i think both are debian right02:35
carambolis there a issue witk the login screen02:35
thoreauputicfrans-th: no, ubuntu is based on debian - it isn't debian02:35
kemikfrans-th:  ubuntu is based on debian. it isnt debian02:35
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kemikfrans-th:  mixing in debian archives may very well break your system so be careful02:36
eazel7I cannot start the mysql daemon, it cannot find 'localhost' (I defined other name for the pc)02:36
Uthinibimberi: it worked thx, i killed my gdm window, but now i dunno if the install is running cos i'm back @ work02:36
eazel7how can I fix it?02:36
frans-thkemik. thoreau: what is that mean? i know it is not debian, different logo02:36
caramboli am getting an improvised login screen02:36
kemikeazel7:  try "cat /etc/hosts" and paste output on pastebin02:36
kemik!pastebin02:36
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:36
apokryphosfrans-th: it means you shouldn't use the Debian repositories02:36
frans-thok, i will be carefully02:36
kemikfrans-th:  it means: dont use Debian repositories02:36
frans-thanyway, for me, i want to make a repo of ubuntu,02:37
caramboltellin me the configuration file contains an invalid command02:37
frans-thbut i dont want to manage all those version, one repo for everything02:37
thoreauputicfrans-th: ubuntu is based on a "snapshot" of Debian taken at a particular time - debian has changed since then02:37
apokryphosfrans-th: eh?02:37
eazel7http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/154702:37
eazel7kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/154702:37
eazel7sorry02:37
frans-ththoreau: cannot understand..  what is snapshot that difference..02:37
frans-thi think i have use the debian repo here :( so, break already right :(02:38
carambolfurther on it tells me to fix my configuration02:38
thoreauputicfrans-th: what is your first language?02:38
frans-thi tought that ubuntu manage mozilla, and debian a rest :(02:38
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frans-thmy first language is indonesia,02:38
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phreakyshi02:38
thoreauputicah, I see02:38
phreakysanyone knows if there are opengl2 drivers for linux available yet?02:38
frans-thsorry for my english :P02:38
apokryphosfrans-th: not at all. Different Distributions of Linux02:38
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apokryphosphreakys: you just missed your response in #kubuntu :P02:38
thoreauputicfrans-th: debian unstable changes all the time: ubuntu only ech 6 months02:39
phreakysarg02:39
phreakysyea02:39
frans-thi just wonder, what is the difference between ubuntu and debian repo, sorry for duplicating answer02:39
frans-thaha, ubuntu every 6 months :P that is cool02:39
kemikeazel7:  try http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1548 that instead02:39
phreakysim not sure if mesa is the only way tto go :/02:39
frans-thlittle question friends.02:39
frans-thif i have hoary, will i can upgrade smooth usign the next version of ubuntu, or must reisntall and reformat?02:40
apokryphosfrans-th: they're different Distributions. Like Mandrake, SuSE, MEPIS etc02:40
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apokryphosfrans-th: Ubuntu is just *based* on Debian; it differs from it, though.02:40
apokryphoss/Mandrake/Mandriva ;-)02:40
frans-thapokryp: i just think they are difference but "must" have same repo, so all the team can share the repo02:40
eazel7kemik: nothing :( are you sure that is a problem there?02:40
apokryphosfrans-th: you can use <tab> in IRC for auto-completion of nicknames :)02:41
thoreauputicfrans-th: we have told you: if you use debian on ubuntu, bad things can happen02:41
frans-thi am fedora fans, but i am very dont like the repo of fedora that every version must have their own repo02:41
apokryphosfrans-th: they don't have the same repository since they are different systems.02:41
kemikeazel7:  no, i think both lines are equivalent, but i wasnt sure..02:41
frans-ththoreau: i will reinstall this pc so just use ubuntu repo only , thx for that concern02:41
kemikeazel7:  if you try "ifconfig" the "lo" device is there ?02:41
kemikl0 even02:42
eazel7kemik: what you think about this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/154902:42
kemikor lo.. nvm02:42
thoreauputicfrans-th: yes, good idea :) Just use ubuntu repos02:42
frans-thapokryp: if different repo, how to make sure, if i have a warty, and i can make it a hoary.. is it hard?02:42
apokryphosfrans-th: very easy in fact! :)02:42
apokryphosfrans-th: are you on warty?02:42
frans-thapokry: how?02:42
kemikeazel7:  did you install mysql from debian repos?02:42
eazel7kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/155002:42
frans-thi have 8 pc here, 1 wary, 2 hoary, 4 fedora core02:42
eazel7kemik: I installed it from hoary02:43
frans-ththe fedora core 2,3,4 :)02:43
apokryphos!upgrade02:43
ubotuupgrade is, like, "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"02:43
frans-thall my staff in my company use fedora very oftenly, i want to switch to ubuntu, i use ubuntu :P02:43
apokryphosfrans-th: if you are on Warty, put the command above and you will have Hoary!02:43
kemikeazel7:  comparing your "loopback" to mine get me thinking smoethings wrong on your end02:43
frans-thbut i think the fedora core 2 will be gone in several weeks, becoem ubuntu :)02:44
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frans-thaporkryp: what is the command?02:44
kemikeazel7:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1551 <- thats what it looks like here..02:44
frans-thbut after this forum very helpfull :) i think i will use ubuntu for standard in my office02:44
apokryphosfrans-th: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:44
eazel7kemik: I don't know about netwroks, my sin is to have changed the host name :(02:44
frans-thbut of course after the repo can be mirrored to my office02:44
kemikeazel7:  what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like ?02:45
apokryphosfrans-th: only use that command on Warty. On Hoary it won't do anything, really.02:45
eazel7kemik: kinda your loopback works02:45
eazel7kemik: iface lo inet loopback02:45
frans-thi will try :P02:45
frans-thaprokry" so, for upgrade, can i use reinstall mechanism?02:45
kemikeazel7:  no "auto lo" ?02:45
frans-thapt-get update is very slowww here :(02:45
eazel7kemik: gonna add that02:45
apokryphosfrans-th: what country are you in?02:45
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kemikeazel7:  add that above the line you pasted02:46
frans-ththat why, i prefer to get mirror first before upgrade, we must save the internet bandwith, here 56k, for one office02:46
kemikeazel7:  not sure if this will need to reboot02:46
apokryphosfrans-th: ohh02:46
frans-thapkryp: i am from indonesia, jakarta city02:46
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frans-ththat why i am asking about how to make mirror02:46
XandriXwhere do i get gmake ?02:46
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apokryphosfrans-th: I'm not sure if you can upgrade from the CD... I think so. Sorry. :S02:46
marius__sorry , for asking. but can anyone help me02:46
frans-thi am under goverment program to make sure that investing in ubuntu is the right one,02:46
eazel7kemik: mysql still does not works, but now my own pc answers the pings02:46
apokryphosfrans-th: do you have the bandwidth to host a mirror?02:46
marius__i dont know hoe to play mp3?s02:46
apokryphos!mp302:47
ubotu[mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support02:47
eazel7kemik: thanks kemik now mysql works =)02:47
marius__thnx :-)02:47
frans-thapkoryp: if upgrade using internet, i think that is hard, most of our country is not connected to interent02:47
eliphas_frans-th, maybe there is repositories near you02:47
frans-thaporkryp: the goverment will give me the bandwidht, and they have approved it, but the server will come soon.02:47
apokryphosfrans-th: ohh02:47
XandriXerm in what package would i get gmake like apt-get install what02:47
eliphas_maybe an apt-get with new cd should work02:47
kemikeazel7:  good :)02:48
frans-ththere is a debian repo here, kuya.vlsm.org but ubuntu02:48
apokryphosfrans-th: one sec, then02:48
frans-thif you said ubuntu is nto debian, :) we must make it right02:48
frans-thwww.vlsm.org is the biggest repo of Linux in indonesia, there is ubuntu also there02:48
XandriXso no one knows nice02:48
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borfastafter installing vmware-tools (Ubuntu is the guest operating system), X exits and Xorg.0.log says /dev/input/mice doesn't exist. can someone help me getting it back, please?02:48
thoreauputicXandriX: gmake is GNU make which is in the build-essential package - but what compilation is asking for "gmake" ?02:49
frans-ththoreau, r u still there?02:49
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XandriXthoreauputic, pearpc02:49
JowiXandriX: gmake = make02:49
apokryphosfrans-th: email info@ubuntulinux.org and tell them that you're interested in setting up a Mirror02:49
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frans-thi think all of you must help me understand, what is the difference between ubuntu and debian, and of course the how to mirror work in every version02:49
thoreauputicXandriX: no compilation should be specifically expecting gmake02:49
bimberifrans-th: Thee's some information here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/mirror/02:49
XandriXthomerz, where is gmake normally situated02:49
frans-thapokryp: i cannot send them the email, the server is not come yet, but the rack and the space :P02:50
zukalk!debian02:50
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/02:50
thoreauputicXandriX: it isn't - it's /usr/bin/make02:50
frans-thall: but how big is the mirror? everyone also ask me about that02:50
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frans-thmy idea is to make a mirror here, but...02:50
frans-ththere is a program here to copy all the mirror using DVD or anything to any city here02:51
XandriXk02:51
thoreauputicXandriX: for a linux program to expect gmake is absurd02:51
frans-thso every city here that have very bad internet can get the latest repo..02:51
apokryphosfrans-th: that would be great, yes. :)02:51
JohnFluxI had to recompile alsa to get my sound drivers.  I've just upgraded my kernel, so I guess I have to do it again?02:52
bimberifrans-th: From that page - "The archive is currently about 75 GB (covers x86, powerpc, and amd64 architectures)"02:52
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frans-thand i am under contract with govermetn 2 years contract to promote ubuntu to this couontry02:52
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JohnFluxfrans-th: which country?02:52
JohnFluxfrans-th: that's so sweet :)02:52
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frans-thunder that contract, in 2 years, i must distribute the repo (mirror) to any city that need that02:52
thoreauputicfrans-th: the programs in "main" are avaiable on a DVD I believe02:52
Hmmmfrans-th, i get paid to use linux as well02:52
JohnFluxi'm a student, so I use what i want ;)02:53
frans-ththoreau: wow, i never hear that02:53
hopengwhy ubuntu choose gnome as primary not kde ?02:53
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frans-thbecaues here, microsoft is sellign windows update cd. :(02:53
Hmmmfrans-th, is your city looking for more recruits?02:53
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JohnFluxhopeng: there's kubuntu which I use02:53
Hmmmhopeng, i think e17 should be the desktop of choice02:53
hopengJohnFlux, i know, but why kde comes in 2nd02:53
cheebyhi.  quick question.  I am a gentoo user and my local portage tree takes up 4.7 GB.  Does ubuntu have a similar tree?02:53
cheebytree for packages, that is.02:54
frans-thi am seeking a full timer for this kind of work, ubuntu mirror and gforge support services02:54
JohnFluxhopeng: i'm not sure.  debian people seem gnome orientated.  (i'm a kde developer)02:54
hardw1regrrr.... my system crashed earlier and now any program trying to use my webcam crashes out, or just cant get any data off of it now02:54
jgjoneshopeng - why want kde? I prefer Gnome. But there is kubuntu though, all the joy of Ubuntu in KDE.02:54
swedaexit02:54
frans-thi love gnmoe :)02:54
frans-thhopeng, there is kde version of ubuntu, kbuntu02:54
hopengJohnFlux, yesterday i do apt-get install kde-desktop . seems good, i began to liking kde.02:54
frans-ththoreau: tell me about the "main" DVD?02:54
JohnFluxhopeng: which version?02:54
jgjonesI used to use KDE and prefer it over Gnome but now I prefer Gnome beause I find KDE too over-cluttered.02:54
JohnFluxjgjones: we've been working on it a lot02:55
Originooi've installed kde from the kubuntu mirrors02:55
hopengJohnFlux, i dont know, i just apt-get it02:55
jgjoneswhile Gnome is just clean :) But that's one man's opinion.02:55
hopengjgjones, im not versusing both, but im just curious, im new btw.02:55
JohnFluxjgjones: gnome is clean, but too clean for my personal opinion.  i want somewhere inbetween02:55
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XandriXermm now it requests ginstall lol02:56
jgjonesTrue I've had that comment that gnome's too clean...I guess for me, it's perfect..clean so that I can make it into what I want :)02:56
Originooi've switched to kde becouse of the powerful konqueror ;)02:56
apokryphosOriginoo: good going =)02:56
cheebyOriginoo, you can use konqueror in gnome.02:56
thoreauputicfrans-th: just a minute - please wait02:56
Originoobut i still prefer to use xterm ;)02:57
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XandriXthoreauputic, what is ginstall suposed to be ?02:57
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apokryphoscheeby: Konqueror is a big part of KDE. If you're going to use the kde browser, file manager, ftp manager, you might as well go a step further :P02:57
eliphas_what happened to epiphany browser?02:57
Originoocheeby: sure, but i get a lot of warnings ;)02:57
thoreauputicXandriX: no idea - who wrote this stuff?02:57
Hobbseehey all.  Firewall question:  i'm running samba, but otherwise no server-related tasks.  I did some port scans, and they all came back that the ports were in stealth mode.  The question now: is there any reason why I should be using a firewall, if all the ports are hidden anyway?02:57
cheebyOriginoo, ah.  sorry to hear.02:57
sn0nhey guys.. anyone else have timing issues with sound (on DVDs) i have totem-gstreamer w/ libdvdcss working, and using_dma returns 1 (on)02:57
cheebyapokryphos, I don't disagree.02:58
XandriXthoreauputic, it work son my other machins just not on my xbox-linux wich is debain based02:58
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sn0nlike there is no issures with video being choppy (that i can tell), jus the sound is a bit off02:58
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sn0nlike think of a older karate movie.. but not as bad02:58
thoreauputicfrans-th:  http://nginyang.uvt.nl/hoary/  (Information about DVDs)02:59
kaptainkhello, is it possible to password protect selected folders in ubuntu without setting up multiple accounts?02:59
XandriXoo02:59
Jowisn0n: if you haven't already, install totem-xine02:59
XandriXginstall is alink to /usr/bin/install02:59
sn0nJovi it woundlt play my DVDs02:59
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sn0nit was complaining bout libdvdcss not being found02:59
sn0nyet totem-gstreamer plays them no problem02:59
XandriXfixed it03:00
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frans_all sorry disc03:00
JohnFluxkaptaink: in kde, you just install kgpg ;)03:00
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Jowisn0n: I ditched totem-gstreamer the first thing i did, installed totem-xine and libdvdcss2. all works fine. (might be against the law in your country)03:01
frans_guys: can explain me about warty mirror? is still managed?03:01
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knoppix_hello again03:01
kaptainkIs it possible to password protect selected folders in ubuntu without setting multiple accounts?03:01
frans_apkoryp: r u there still?03:01
sn0nlemme try again03:01
JohnFluxkaptaink: you can't do _with_ multiple accounts03:01
XandriXthoreauputic, it just didint have the symlinks but now it works fine03:01
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frans-thsorry disc all03:01
kaptainkeven so, is it possible?03:02
thoreauputicfrans-th: did you get the DVD link?03:02
JohnFluxkaptaink: ask in #gnome if you're a gnome user.  it will involve using gnupg03:02
knoppix_hello again, im the one who get "error loading operating system"03:02
frans-thdont get it03:02
frans-thwhere is it?03:02
JohnFluxknoppix_: Yes.  We know who you are.03:02
JohnFluxknoppix_: :)03:02
kaptainkthankyou, ill try03:02
thoreauputicfrans-th:   http://nginyang.uvt.nl/hoary/  (Information about DVDs)03:02
apokryphosfrans-th: sorry, didn't notice your message. If you highlight me then I'll be able to check any message :)03:02
frans-thi got this       rsync://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/03:02
frans-thi think the repo DVD is a good step :P03:02
knoppix_ok!m, i get grub when i boot from the ATA disk03:02
apokryphosfrans-th: Warty mirror is still "developed", but it's not the latest stable release of Ubuntu, and hence, not the most active repository (if active at all :Z).03:03
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frans-thhow often the DVD step is released?03:03
sn0nAlert window pops up sayin "An Error offured             The source seems encrypter, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"03:03
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sn0n(using totem-xine)03:03
apokryphosfrans-th: with every Release -- every 6 months03:03
sn0nbut works without a hitch with totem-gstreamer03:03
knoppix_now i can load the ubuntu linux but i cant load the xp03:03
Jowisn0n: you need libdvdcss203:03
sn0nits installed03:03
frans-thapkryp: what should i ask to everyone if they install hoary, but in next 6 month there will be a new ubuntu03:03
frans-thbreedy may be03:03
frans-ththey must upgrade, and my team here, will be max 3 person with me to manage the repo03:04
thoreauputicfrans-th: if you are working with government, maybe you should contact Canonical (the company for Ubuntu)03:04
sn0nlibdvdcss2 is already the newest version.03:04
apokryphosfrans-th: Hoary is best. If the server is set up, then they can just change their sources and dist-upgrade to get Breezy :)03:04
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sn0nsays apt-get install libdvdcss203:04
frans-thi am not work in goverment03:04
dixianyone got a working sources.list for me? mines is broken!03:04
dixi!sources.list03:04
ubotudixi: What?03:04
dixi!sources03:04
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:04
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frans-thi am the team that promoting open source in indonesia, and the other team is goverment03:04
ninnghizidha(Test)03:04
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frans-thi have a company intercitra, but it is developer software house,03:05
thoreauputicfrans-th: I still think you should talk to Canonical03:05
frans-thi just called by, to promote ubuntu03:05
apokryphosfrans-th: good stuff! :)03:05
frans-thhave contact for canonical friend03:05
Jowi!dvd03:05
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras03:05
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frans-thapkry; thx :)03:05
knoppix_hello!, anyone can help ?03:05
Jowisn0n: that should be it. strange that totem-xine can not find it03:05
sn0nyeah03:06
sn0nits annoying me. LoL03:06
frans-ththoreau: what canonical team can offer?03:06
Jowii bet :-)03:06
apokryphosfrans-th: info@canonical.com03:06
sn0nguess i'll just watch office space kungfu sound sytle03:06
apokryphosfrans-th: they are the people that sponsor, and created, Ubuntu03:06
thoreauputicfrans-th: I don't know - talk to them ;)03:06
XandriXcan debian take .tgz packages ?03:06
frans-ththoreau:the nanyang url about dVD is not work03:06
sn0neven thou its like 1/4 second off with the timing03:06
sn0nits kinda annoying03:06
sn0nhehe03:06
frans-thi will email :P03:06
hopengXandriX, yes03:06
XandriXok03:06
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mofknoppix_, whats your problem03:06
sn0noh well03:07
Jowisn0n: maybe you should try gmplayer then.03:07
sn0nsuch is life03:07
sn0ngmplayer ?03:07
frans-thwhat should i ask to canonical?03:07
XandriXhopeng, how do i install one ?03:07
Davey|Worksn0n: do you have DMA turned on? :)03:07
apokryphosfrans-th: try typing  apok and then hit <tab>  =)03:07
Jowisn0n: mplayer can fine-adjust sound sync03:07
sn0nDavey|Work, yes03:07
pvanhoofosfameron, breezy works pretty good atm, so you can already check it out03:07
Davey|WorkOK03:07
apokryphosfrans-th: tell them the situation; they'll help get you set up.03:07
sn0ni'll try gmplayer03:07
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XandriXhopeng, how do i install one ? how ?03:08
pvanhooffrans-th, if you want to promote ubuntu in your country, I suggest ordering cd's from canonical. They are free03:08
knoppix_i have installed ubuntu and now i can load windows xp, windows xp is installed in a SATA disk, like ubuntu linux, but i dont know how the grub has been installed in the ATA disk03:08
JohnFluxspeaking of DMA, why doesn't ubuntu enable DMA on the devices automatically? :(03:08
frans-thpvanhoof: but order is cost, i think if i can develop, can save their cost..03:08
apokryphospvanhoof: setting up a mirror would be a greater help03:09
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hopengXandriX, ubuntu can handle tgz, it comes with default installation, correct me if im wrong03:09
apokryphospvanhoof: particularly if he gets help from the government03:09
pvanhooffrans-th, it might be useful to ask for a customized one where the ubuntu mirror is filled it with a host in your country03:09
frans-thi just have a small eager: to make ubuntu everywhere here :) there are 2 Linux User Group develop a distro from fedora, :) i think my turn to make ubuntu :P03:09
sn0nhmm03:09
XandriXhopeng, it still doesent tell me howto install one after03:09
sn0ndoes gmplayer have a website ?03:09
mofknoppix_, why dind'nt you install grub03:09
frans-thpvanhoof, i email them already03:09
pvanhoofapokryphos, I explained him how to rsync to a mirror03:09
Jowisn0n: google for mplayer :-)03:09
hopengXandriX, whats in your .tgz ?03:09
XandriXhopeng, pearpc03:10
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knoppix_?03:10
frans-thapokryp: i got a letter from goverment, the R&D Minister, so i have donation server from Sun, :)03:10
thoreauputicpvanhoof: he has 56k dialup :/03:10
pvanhoofugh03:10
frans-thand the rest, i need somthing and input03:10
apokryphosfrans-th: thats' great to here. Mention that in the email. :)03:10
mofknoppix_, you installed grub as bootmanager ?03:10
frans-thSun wants JDS in that repo :) but i prefere Ubuntu.. and the gov, approved it03:10
frans-ththe gov said, sun donate it not control it :)03:10
pvanhoof56k .. but how can a mirror work on a 56k modem line?03:10
frans-thhehe. :)03:11
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apokryphosHehe03:11
sn0nfuck it03:11
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sn0ni'll just deal with the 1/4 second03:11
frans-thR&D, and duplicating ubuntu CDnow, and distribute to 500 PC for donation, anyway, the PC is donate by Microsoft :) hehe03:11
sn0ntoo much of a hassle before school03:11
sn0nlol03:11
thoreauputicpvanhoof: he wants a local mirror i suppose03:11
pvanhooffrans-th, go to your gov. and ask for a good internet connection03:11
apokryphospvanhoof: he's getting other servers03:12
pvanhoofthoreauputic, so he wants canonical to send a new cd evertime they upgrade a package?03:12
knoppix_yes, but before installing ubuntu the first boot device was the SATA disk with the windows xp03:12
liquidfirehmmm03:12
frans-thpvanhoof: the R&D minister, have an ISP, the bandwidht is free for 2years, they will provide it, but of course under IIX ,our internet gateway, which fast for indonesian not for outside indonesia03:12
liquidfirei need to reinstall windows03:12
liquidfirebut my dvd seems to be fucked up03:12
liquidfire:o03:12
thoreauputicpvanhoof: no I think he means he will be getting bandwidth soon03:12
apokryphosfrans-th: yes, sounds good.03:12
frans-thpvanhoof: I dont want canonical send the CD, if i can create by my self, i will do it.03:12
thoreauputicpvanhoof: it's a bit hard to communicate :)03:12
pvanhoofah ok .. they he should wait for that bandwidth :)03:12
frans-ththe bandwidth will got from http://www.iptek.net.id03:13
frans-ththis is govermetn ISP03:13
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mofknoppix_, you have one hd or 203:13
pvanhooffrans-th, tell them you need the internet connection now03:13
knoppix_and after installing ubuntu i can load windows xp booting from SATA neither booting by grub installed on the ATA disk03:13
pvanhoofnot tomorrow, but now03:13
apokryphoshehehe03:13
frans-thya, i just now under approval, the proposal already signed, but we know, indoensian goverment is slow :( slower than a shell :P03:13
knoppix_i have 3 disks 2 SATA and 1 ATA03:13
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sn0nwhat the hell03:14
mofit is not booting by grub ?03:14
frans-thi have 100MBps internet bandwidth under IIX, but none for international bandwidth03:14
sn0ntotem is tryin to tell me the ENTIRE movie is 3 min long03:14
sn0nlol03:14
knoppix_i thought taht ubuntu will install grub on the SATA disk but didnt03:14
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pvanhooffrans-th, ok. so tell them you need at least 10MBs international bandwidth03:14
frans-thi think 100MBps is cool, but IIX is only in java island and sumatera island, we have 5 big islands. so the rest must use offline media such as CD or DVD03:14
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frans-thpvanhoof, international bandwith here is very expensive, no one provide it :(03:15
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pvanhooffrans-th, for a ubuntu mirror, you need it03:15
frans-thbecaues international expensive, that why all ISPs here create our own hub,03:15
pvanhoofthere's no other way03:15
pvanhoofyes but the source of ubuntu packages is not located locally in indonesia, right?03:16
mofknoppix_, change first boot device to the hd where ubuntu if you have installed grub03:16
frans-thi think, i will ask 32kb, for rsync ,, i is cost US$ 400/months, expensive dude03:16
apokryphospvanhoof: hence him wanting to get a mirror setup there03:16
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TraceGreenHello, I am very instrested in adding splash to liveCD, can anyone give me some idea?03:16
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mofknoppix_, sometimes linux has problems with sata03:16
frans-thnow, becaues i am waitint the Sun's server, right now i am learning how to make mirror, so if the server down, the setup can be fast..03:16
larsrohdincan you order breezy from shipit yet?03:17
pvanhooffrans-th, what you could do is let somebody send you a dvd or cd with an rsync checkout, copy it on your harddrive and rsync it again03:17
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frans-ththat is the destination of my chat today03:17
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carajeanok can someone help me install my nvidia drivers properly?03:17
frans-thpvanhoof: that is a good idea, but where i can get the DVD, if i download DVD, 4GB, i think need 2 months :P03:17
knoppix_if i boot from the SATA i get an error message "error loading operating system" (ubuntu is installed in the SATA the same disk that is installed the xp) and if i boot from the ATA disk i get grub and i can load ubuntu but i cant load windows xp03:18
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pvanhooffrans-th, ask canonical to send one03:18
frans-thok ok03:18
frans-ththx03:18
frans-thi think i will ask all of you again after that03:18
pvanhoofwith instructions03:18
pvanhoofask them to give you instructions on how to upgrade the checkout03:18
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thoreauputicpvanhoof: surely canonical would be interested in helping an Indonesian Ubuntu promotion? It's ahuge country in population...03:18
apokryphosfrans-th: seriously, email Canonical and tell them the situation03:18
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mofknoppix_, edit your menu.lst from grub03:18
thoreauputicyes03:18
thrionHi all, I need help, i'm a newbie and i installed Ubuntu and later i installed windows xp and have a dual boot, but the problem is i lost the grub screen and the computer automatically boots into Winddows, can anyone help me getting back the grub screen03:18
mof/boot/grub/menu.lst03:19
thoreauputicfrans-th: definitely email Canonical03:19
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zzzzzsolthey03:19
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pvanhoofthoreauputic, if the gov is really serious about this, they would have given frans-th a huge amount of bandwidth03:19
EasterSunshineanyone knows where i can find a comprehensive guide to how to handle my /etc holder? eg which files don't need to be there, and how to use those that do?03:19
dixihmm.. I downloaded the package nvidia-glx, and I did nvidia-glx-config enable.. but startx gives me the error 'Module NVIDIA not found'03:19
larsrohdinthrion, yeah xp overwrites the master boot record... you should install xp first an then ubuntu... thats easiest03:19
carajeanok i take it no one know a thing about the nvidia drivers? i have been working on this for the last 2 days and have followed every guide03:19
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thoreauputicpvanhoof: well, i gather things move slowly in Indonesia :)03:20
knoppix_when i try to load xp from the grub i get this "root (hd1,0) filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 savedefault make active chainloader +1" and halts the system03:20
pvanhoofthoreauputic, you can't put an engineer on that job if you give him only a 56 kb modem03:20
frans-thpvanhoof: i have unlimited local bandwith, which i said, 100Mbps shared, :P03:20
thoreauputicpvanhoof: of course03:20
apokryphosthoreauputic: slowly -- indeed :).03:20
pvanhooffrans-th, yes but that local 100Mbps is not useful03:20
eazel7somebody configured b2evo and hoary?03:20
apokryphosthoreauputic: we had a guy in #kubuntu not too long ago in an Internet Cafe which shared a 28 KB/s modem03:21
mofknoppix_, is win xp installed on first hd like hda ?03:21
dixistop ignoring me guys03:21
Xappethrion: that could be solved if you do something like: boot from a livecd. chroot to you ubuntu install. reinstall grub and, if necessary, edit your menu.lst03:21
pvanhoofyou need to get the packages from an ubuntu mirror, which isn't located in your country03:21
knoppix_how could i see it?03:21
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frans-ththour: our open source movement suck, last year, all the goverment team under push to be kicked :) you know by the god of everything, but last time we did an event, IGOS event, success, because of thsi the repo mirror project approved03:21
thoreauputicapokryphos: yes, i think I was there for a while :)03:21
nophixdixi: sudo modprobe nvidia03:21
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dixinophix: module nvidia not found03:21
thrionXappe: Thanks03:21
frans-thpvanhoof: 100MBps is the maximum of our ethernet, and unlimite for use forever03:21
nophixdixi: then it's not installed03:22
frans-thhere, Isps never charge how big the file send, but how wide the bandwidth will.03:22
knoppix_no is installed in sda03:22
pvanhooffrans-th, you need 10Mbps internationally03:22
dixinophix: I installed the package nvidia-glx03:22
TraceGreenHello, Can anyone tell me how Ubuntu add bootsplash to LiveCD?03:22
pvanhoofperiod .. get that first03:22
thrionlarsrohdin: is there any simple way?03:22
nophixdixi: you need nvidia-kernel-something too03:22
mofsda03:22
apokryphosTraceGreen: you want to add a bootsplash to your installed Ubuntu?03:22
pvanhooffrans-th, oh and .. you will be transferring a huge amount of data over that 10mbs every few days03:22
dixinophix: ok, installed that one03:23
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pvanhooffrans-th, so tell your gov. : I need it03:23
dixinophix: still can't find the module03:23
larsrohdinthrion, i don't know... I only know that the easiest is to install xp first... xp is evil and it will always try to take over your computer=)03:23
mofknoppix_ --> (hd1,0) change this into (hd0,0)03:23
carajeanhey is someone else having trouble installing drivers to :)03:24
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nophixdixi: try a reboot03:24
frans-thpvanhoof: the govemern know it already, it is under my proposal :P03:24
knoppix_excuse me but im a newbie where do i have to change it?03:24
chrismytopyli, heyyyyyy03:24
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frans-thbut, my homework is, i must make this project still run after 2 years, goverment only give 2 years bandwidth.03:24
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frans-thand cost for 2 staff sallaries for 1 years03:25
EasterSunshinewhat is the aptitude syntax for purging a package?03:25
apokryphosfrans-th: you'll have time to try to beg for more after 2 years :)03:25
knoppix_now i have booted with a knoppix live cd03:25
frans-ththe job of 2 staff is become a free trainer of ubuntu and help everyone who want to develop their own mirror03:25
pvanhooffrans-th, ok .. what will happen after two years is not yet important03:25
Xappethrion: if you have a livecd, a chroot is just a couple of keybord strikes away03:25
chrismytopyli, i need your help again03:25
frans-thadn of course, to help everyone setup the gforge.org03:25
thrionXappe: i have only a install cd :(03:25
frans-thapkryp:  i will try to make it become forever project :)03:25
pvanhooffrans-th, you will get more users if you giveaway cds03:26
pvanhoofyou can get them for free03:26
binchillincan i connect to net using live ubuntu?03:26
pvanhoofeven the shipment cost is free (depends on your country)03:26
carajeanok guys since no one will answer my question i will just state the problem ok i download the nivida drivers follow the wiki on ubuntu i shut down x the first time something went wrong so i had to change nvidia back to nv but that didnt work this time so i deleted the line load glx and it booted can someone help me with this new information i have provided?03:26
frans-thbut the cost of CDs, is under my responsibility03:26
pvanhooffrans-th, they are free03:26
pvanhooffrans-th, Canonical pays for that03:26
pvanhoofask them03:26
chrismyhmm anyone good in filesystem and who can help help me?03:26
Xappethrion: try to get one...they're quite handy sometimes :)03:26
frans-thfor my calculation there is 4000 internet cafe, around 400 install ubuntu :) or may be 20003:26
frans-thpays?03:26
mofknoppix_, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst03:26
pvanhooffrans-th, I ordered 250 .. I didn't have to pay one euro03:27
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thoreauputicfrans-th: canonical will give you CDs03:27
frans-thcannonical need money i think, how do they can get money? it is expensive right03:27
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frans-thmy friend here, got ubuntu cd from canonical :) but i think give away the CD is useless, we need aprogram.03:27
pvanhooffrans-th, ask canonical, they will GIVE you the cds03:27
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frans-ththis program to make us, quit from microsoft lock in :)03:27
chrismyanyone?03:28
thrionXappe: ok03:28
gilles_hi again03:28
frans-thi ve emailed canonical already, but still strange, how can they give it free03:28
pvanhooffrans-th, yes .. ask for the cds03:28
chrismyhow do i check for my devices? mount?03:28
knoppix_ok ill try it, thx03:28
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pvanhooffrans-th, some very very rich guy pays them03:28
gilles_i'm having troubles with 3d apps with a geforce 6600gt03:28
thoreauputicfrans-th:  http://shipit.ubuntu.com/03:28
frans-thi ask for the mirror, not CD, :) i think i still have money to copy the CD and distribute.03:28
mofknoppix_, win xp is installed on sda , right ?03:28
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pvanhooffrans-th, I'm being serious .. you don't have to pay the cds (and in most countries you don't have to pay for the shipment)03:29
carajeangilles did u install the drivers yet?03:29
gilles_it's running fine only for a couple of minutes and after everything froze03:29
frans-thi am here, still confuse if i promote 100% my time to ubuntu, how can i surveive :)03:29
knoppix_yes03:29
gilles_carajean: yes and 3d is working03:29
pvanhoofhttp://shipit.ubuntu.com/03:29
pvanhoofcheck it out03:29
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EasterSunshineThe following packages have been kept back: <--aptitude lists a lot of pacakges under that. by kept back, it means, they will NOT be removed?03:29
carajeanok can u tell me how u installed them i cant get help here otherwise?03:29
frans-thpvanhoof: i wait they reply03:29
apokryphosEasterSunshine: yes03:30
hansthis must be a FAQ but I can't find it. How do I disable the ANNOYING MD5sum checking that doesn't work?03:30
gilles_carajean: using synaptic03:30
mofknoppix_, querry me and post the lines from menu.lst where win xp is03:30
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frans-thok, back to mirror, which will become my job here03:30
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Angrodhow do i install new hardware? actualy. i folowed this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623& but i got an error when i tried to make ieeee802(something) and now my wirelesscard is gone :( and i want it back! :O how? and why do i get an error when i try to make ieeee802 something :(03:30
frans-thwhat should i do, if ubuntu launch the new version?03:30
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diximy nvidia drivers still dont work03:30
apokryphosfrans-th: email Canonical... they will give you all the details that we cannot give03:31
carajeanhow did u use that? and what games are u playing?03:31
dixiI think they aren't shaped for 2.6.10-k703:31
frans-thfor my work? are our team must manage the warty repo, hoary repo, breedy repo?03:31
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pvanhooffrans-th, with your current modem, you'll have to wait days and weeks to get your mirror updated03:31
TraceGreenapokryphos, I want to add it to liveCD03:31
frans-thapkryp: i emailed them already..03:31
pvanhooffrans-th, with a 10Mbps line you'd have to wait lets say a few hours03:31
carajeanyeah dixi it seems ubuntu doesnt like nvidia very much03:31
chrismyhellooo03:31
dixicarajean: I think ubuntu is corrupt.. they received money from ATi03:31
apokryphosTraceGreen: :Z03:31
frans-thbut 100Mbps isnot from ubuntu.com to our server, but from all internet cafe to our server...03:31
carajeanUH OH NO!03:31
apokryphosfrans-th: excellent03:31
thoreauputicdixi: what??03:31
carajeannot ATI03:31
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TraceGreenapokryphos, what do you mean ?03:32
apokryphosfrans-th: Right. I understand.03:32
pvanhooffrans-th, indeed, that is why you need the 10Mbps international internet connection03:32
frans-thfrom our server to ubuntu.com max 64kbps, but this is very big cost for me.03:32
dixithoreauputic: just joking man.. but the nvidia drivers are suddently broken for me03:32
paulproteuscarajean: ATI is known manufacturer and distributor of video cards.03:32
gilles_carajean: i ran ppracer :it ran fine for say 5 minutes and after all is frozen ; killing x don't work03:32
thoreauputicdixi: ah OK ;)03:32
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dixithoreauputic: can you help me..?03:32
carajeanman i sell computer products i know what they are03:32
frans-th10Mbps international, cannot lar, our couontry all is only 32MBps (maybe),03:32
apokryphosTraceGreen: bootsplash as in... a GRUB splash?03:32
paulproteusfrans-th: You should get a local mirror inside your country, or your organization.03:32
thoreauputicdixi: not really - i know nothing about nvidia or ati, sorry03:32
dixiwhen I am starting my X server it gives the error 'module nvidia not found'03:33
pvanhoofpaulproteus, he's trying to set up that mirror. Smarty :)03:33
carajeani personally hate ati products and will never by one again03:33
frans-thpaul: that is my job here, i think i must fnd the solution, for those, inside my country and my ogranization, that why i am here :P03:33
TraceGreenapokryphos, no, i mean i what to add boot splash03:33
dixicarajean: ATi works, nvidia doesn't03:33
TraceGreenapokryphos, sorry for my english.03:33
paulproteuspvanhoof: Oh, sorry, I came late into the conversation.03:33
carajeanwhat the drivers?03:33
pvanhoof:p03:33
dixicarajean: the whole thing03:33
dixiSOMEONE HELP ME:@03:33
apokryphosTraceGreen: usplash? On which part, exactly, do you want the splash to appear?03:33
paulproteusfrans-th: Do you want an official mirror, or just something you can point people to?03:33
apokryphosdixi: drop the caps03:33
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carajeanumm nvidia does work under windows just fine03:34
frans-thif i can make the mirror become my mirror under my organization without eating bandwidht itnernet, i can make it work in all our country :) esp the 3 island, that dont have internet big bandwidth03:34
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carajeanjust not linux :(03:34
pvanhoofpaulproteus, his problem is that his gov can't give him a lot bandwidth03:34
dixicarajean: I think linux has been modified to bug me03:34
frans-thpaul, i will make the mirror free, goverment pay for the bandwidth, sun give us the server03:34
apokryphosdixi: and if someone can help you, they will try; you don't have to shout repetively to get someone to notice you. If no-one can help, then try again later.03:34
carajeannot just u03:34
TraceGreenapokryphos, ok, when i boot from knoppix liveCD, it will show many boot message, but like gnoppix, just a progress bar when booting03:34
gilles_it seems that i'm not alone having troubles with nvidia :)03:34
dixiapokryphos: ah I see you all turned against me03:34
frans-thbut the server must be shared with the gforge.org repo also03:34
TraceGreenapokryphos, i know gnoppix is based on ubuntu03:34
carajeannope there is 3 of us03:34
apokryphosTraceGreen: doesn't the LiveCD already have one?03:34
dixiis there a offical ubuntu channel around?03:34
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gilles_i hope it will be solved soon03:35
paulproteusSounds easy enough, frans-th.  I think you should file a bug with the Ubuntu bugzilla, or ask in #ubuntu-dev03:35
apokryphosdixi: turned against you? What *are* you talking about?03:35
frans-thok ok :)03:35
apokryphosdixi: /topic03:35
paulproteusubuntu-devel , rather.03:35
TraceGreenapokryphos, knoppix just show splash in the middle of booting, not whole process03:35
TraceGreenapokryphos, as i know03:35
carajeannaw i been here for 2 and a half days not solved yet03:35
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frans-thpaul: i am new in this area :) sorry for asking to much03:35
paulproteusfrans-th: No trouble at all!03:35
thoreauputicpaulproteus: you haven't heard the problems03:35
paulproteusthoreauputic: Guess not.03:35
dixii'll boot on my  386 kernel.. at least it works03:35
thoreauputicpaulproteus: he ahs serious bandwidth issues03:35
apokryphosTraceGreen: seems to me like any changes there would have to be made to the LiveCD themselves... not some setting once you're on.03:35
binchillincan i connect to net using live ubuntu?03:36
pvanhoofpaulproteus, his current bandwidth is only a 56 k modem03:36
frans-thbut, the good thing, our IGOS program now adopted by ASEAN :)03:36
nophixbinchillin: of course03:36
binchillinok, ty03:36
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TraceGreenapokryphos, do you mean i should customer the liveCD?03:36
frans-thpvanhoff: all our comapny in indonesia get 56kbps :) using kabel or dialup..03:36
whyameyeanybody know how to vpn into a Windows network using ubuntu?03:36
pvanhoofyes, you need more03:36
frans-thADSL there, but too expensive..03:37
paulproteuspvanhoof: I see. :)03:37
apokryphosTraceGreen: I'm saying you'd probably have to, for that change. Still not entirely sure what you're trying to get... I was sure Ubuntu had a Splash Screen while it loads modules etc03:37
pvanhooffrans-th, you need more. period03:37
apokryphosTraceGreen: though, as I recall, it was ugly :P03:37
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pvanhooffrans-th, it's not possible to do a serious ubuntu mirror on a 56k connection03:37
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frans-thpvanhoof: cannot get more.. because our country have a silly company name tElkom, they monopolize the bandwidth,03:37
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frans-thpvanhoof: how can not possible?03:37
pvanhooffrans-th, they your gov should talk to tElkom03:38
TraceGreenapokryphos, when boot ubuntu liveCD, it will show many boot message but no splash03:38
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paulproteusfrans-th: At 56 kilobytes per second, you can download one gigabyte in 1.7 days according to Google calculator03:38
mindampwhat else to i need to do to get make working other than "apt-get install gcc"?03:38
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NanoBCNHi guys03:38
paulproteusHi, NanoBCN..03:38
thoreauputicfrans-th: if your government is serious about this, they *must* give you bandwidth03:38
NanoBCNI'm experiencing problems burning DVDs. Let me copy the error:03:38
apokryphosTraceGreen: perhaps it doesn't then03:38
NanoBCN/dev/hdc: "Current Write Speed" is 2.5x1385KBps.03:38
NanoBCN:-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=80h] : Input/output error03:38
NanoBCN:-( write failed: Input/output error03:38
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NanoBCNany idea of what could be happening?03:38
pvanhoofpaulproteus, the current releases archive is +- 30 gig :). So he'd need a month to get all the updates03:38
pvanhoofthat's insane :)03:38
paulproteusfrans-th: Do you need bandwidth just to download the files?03:38
mindampanyone?03:38
frans-thpvanhoof: we did, but telkom like to push us :(, several time they did a very bad practices, like bill the ADSL customer 4x, imageing the monthly fee is expensive.03:38
paulproteusfrans-th: Once you have the files downloaded, it's just within-country bandwidth, and that is more than 56k, right?03:39
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frans-thpaul: i think i can only have 64kbps from ubuntu.com server to our mirror server, but 100Mbps from our server to the rest03:39
pvanhooffrans-th, you could ask canonical to send you a cd or dvd with all the updates every week :)03:39
apokryphosfrans-th: yes, you'd need better bandwidth. It wouldn't be possible otherwise.03:39
paulproteusapokryphos: I don't agree.03:39
thoreauputicpaulproteus: yes - he is getting in country bandwidth03:39
TraceGreenapokryphos, do you gnoppix?03:40
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aluno_oi03:40
apokryphosTraceGreen: Nope. I don't g* :P03:40
frans-thpvanhoof: r u kidding? are they dont have time, sending me CD :) i am here must work and finding project for this kind of job..03:40
TraceGreenapokryphos, anyway, thanks very much!!03:40
paulproteusIf he can get the current distribution on DVDs or CD or something, then he can download updates easily enough.03:40
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pvanhooffrans-th, once you have the first checkout .. updating with rsync might be doable (because rsync will only fetch the changes)03:40
pvanhoofbut still .. it will take a lot time each week03:40
alunono estou entendo03:40
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aluno_bom dia galera03:41
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paulproteusfrans-th: If what it takes is me burning you a few CDs and sending them to you, I might be able to just do that.03:41
t-r-shi, i got the kubuntu live cd and now i want to connect to internet via dsl (network) but i don't know what i have to do because it's my first time on linux03:41
apokryphospaulproteus: erm, you agreed earlier. How exactly would he have a proper mirror if he can only get modem speed from outside?03:41
alunoBom dia03:41
frans-thapkyrp: if you ask about better bandwidht, :) i think that is not possible, except you turn me become a God that wise :) remember this is suck country, i ampersonally dont like this country, but bornhere :)03:41
pamungkashi, how do i use rhythmbox to play mp3s? or even on totem it wont play:(03:41
paulproteusapokryphos: Step 1: Bootstrap off CD/DVD.  Step 2: Nightly rsync to official mirror.03:41
apokryphosfrans-th: :)03:41
alunoJos Augusto03:41
snorkswhat's the difference between debian and gnome, and ubuntu?03:41
pamungkasbom siapa boss?03:41
snorkserr rather03:41
apokryphospaulproteus: a full mirror does daily builds, no?03:41
snorkswhat's the difference between debian w/ gnome, and ubuntu?03:41
paulproteusHe can download more than half a gig a day at 56 kilobits, and daily updates are never that big, apokryphos.03:41
paulproteusapokryphos: I was just thinking releases, not breezy.03:41
paulproteusI guess I forgot about unreleased distros.03:42
frans-thpaul: what kind of CD, we have warty, hoary, and those CDs distributed around country :)03:42
pvanhoofpaulproteus, indeed, it's doable. Somebody has to send him a checkout on cds03:42
pamungkasanyone know how i can play mp3s on my ubuntu?03:42
frans-thin makasar, sulawesi island, the bandwith for all this island , only 17Mbps, and ubuntu is popular :P03:42
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nophix!mp303:42
ubotuI heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support03:42
paulproteusfrans-th: Yes, now I understand - the problem is breezy.03:42
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apokryphospaulproteus: more than half a gig with 56kb/s? Not even close.03:42
frans-thpvanhoof: if somebody can send me the checkoud CD, that will be good,03:42
paulproteusapokryphos: http://www.google.com/search?hs=uHY&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=one+gigabytes+divided+by+%2856+kilobits+per+second%29&btnG=Search03:42
pamungkasso i can't play mp3s?03:42
paulproteuspamungkas: Yes, you can.  Read the page. :)03:43
frans-thbut if you can put the .iso, i can download here, but make sure dont delete in 2 months, 1 CD around 2 weeks to download03:43
pamungkasok thanks03:43
snorkspamungkas: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins03:43
pvanhoofpaulproteus, I'd say send him a new cd with new packages per distro and give him the rsync command for getting updates on ONLY hoary (and warty)03:43
snorkspamungkas: gst-register-0.803:43
chrismytopyli, are you there?03:43
pvanhoofs/per distro/per release03:43
apokryphospaulproteus: it *never* goes that fast03:43
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pvanhoofand when breezy is released, let him adjust the rsync command to include breezy packages03:43
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pvanhoof(after he copied the packages on the cd)03:43
paulproteusEven at half that rate would be no problem if he's just downloading updates.03:44
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conrad_hi03:44
frans-thpaul: the problem is breezy? what is that mean?03:44
t-r-sno one here who can help me?03:44
apokryphosIt's a shaky business03:44
pvanhooffrans-th, breezy is the next release of ubuntu03:44
snorkswhat's the difference between debian w/ gnome, and ubuntu?03:44
paulproteusfrans-th: Breezy is updated constantly right now.03:44
thoreauputicpaulproteus: hahah - do you imagine in Indonesia that 56k is even reliably two thirds of that?03:44
pamungkasthanks snorks03:44
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conrad_can i come in on  a question relating to sound?03:44
nerdy2snorks: ubuntu has a selection of programs it chooses to support more than others,   and it's generally very reasonably up to date,  and it has regular release cycles, ...03:44
thenukeconrad_: sure03:44
frans-thi have breeze beta here :) my friend from vlsm.org download it :)03:44
paulproteusfrans-th: Once it's released, it'll stop updating so fast.03:44
frans-thbut i use hoary here :)03:44
pvanhoofpaulproteus, I wouldn't support breezy this way03:44
frans-thpaul;03:44
frans-thpaul: that is cool information03:45
pvanhoofit's insane :)03:45
kemikt-r-s:  try "ifconfig" and see if you're assigned an IP address for starters03:45
NanoBCNanyone here knows a bit DVD burning problems?03:45
conrad_thx thenuke: i have sound driver share issues. which stops the kde sound system (arts) from starting03:45
snorksnerdy2: but with a normal debian install i would be forced to set up kernel somewhat more thorough than ubuntu install?03:45
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kemikNanoBCN:  be more specifik03:45
apokryphosThere is zero possibility that you could be a prper mirror if you can only get 56kb/s from outside. Period.03:45
frans-thanyway, for testing: there will be 2 full timer for breezy and gforge in our company, to support open source :)03:45
conrad_i have done artsd -s esd03:45
apokryphosfrans-th: nice :)03:45
pvanhoofapokryphos, for a warty mirror ... it's possible. For a Hoary one, perhaps03:45
pvanhooffor breezy, no03:45
frans-thif you all team can help, i think there will be 100s volunteer can donate to ubuntu :)03:45
Malinisn't Ubuntu Live supposed to mount hard drives automatically?03:45
apokryphospvanhoof: not really a proper mirror then03:46
frans-thif not, i am personally will help :)03:46
NanoBCNkemik, I'm not able to burn any data DVDs anymore: nautilus-cd-burner gives me errors after creating image and gnomebaker doesn't even do that03:46
t-r-skemik, i get an error because i use the live cd03:46
pvanhoofapokryphos, a proper mirror for hoary and warty .. but not for breezy03:46
paulproteusfrans-th: You should email MDZ or someone else official.03:46
frans-thpaul: so, you prefer me to wait breezy release, and make the mirror of that, and forget warty and hoary right03:46
nerdy2snorks:   i've not done the ubuntu install, so i dunno03:46
thoreauputicpaulproteus: he has emailed canonical03:46
pvanhooffrans-th, no :)03:46
frans-thpaul: MDZ? what is that03:46
paulproteusfrans-th: Given the bandwidth limitation, I'd expect you can't mirror breezy yet.  You can mirror warty and hoary right now, I'd expect.03:46
kemikt-r-s:  ah. well i cant help with the livecd. never used it myself03:46
paulproteusthoreauputic: Oh, okay.03:46
snorks;[03:46
snorksnerdy2: you use debian?03:47
apokryphosfrans-th: a user on here :). We are all just normal Ubuntu users. =)03:47
paulproteusfrans-th: MDZ is a Canonical employee.03:47
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t-r-skemik, ok thx03:47
paulproteusfrans-th: Do you need help mirroring Warty and Hoary?03:47
frans-thpaul: give me the steps... what should i do...03:47
nerdy2snorks: no i use ubuntu :)03:47
nerdy2snorks: on this machine anyways03:47
paulproteusfrans-th: It's the same as making a Debian mirror.03:47
snorksnerdy2: but you never installed it?03:47
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apokryphosfrans-th: you can probably speak to many Canonical employees in #ubuntu-devel03:47
nerdy2snorks: no :),  i did a very questionable debian-to-ubuntu transition :)03:47
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frans-thpaul: mirroring warty and hoary? yes, but the server is not here, yet, Sun did a very slow job, we ordered for in last 2 months, but still not arrive.03:47
NanoBCNthe fun part is that it used to work perfectly03:47
snorksnerdy2: ok :)03:47
paulproteusfrans-th: Okay.  Will you have the data to put on the server once it arrives?03:48
frans-thok ok i will go back to ubuntu-devel03:48
frans-thpaul: what data? cannot understand03:48
kemikNanoBCN:  doesnt sound good :/03:48
apokryphosfrans-th: though, it's probably best to wait for a reply from Canonical.03:48
Malinanybody?03:48
kemikNanoBCN:  the same happened to me, but in windows :/03:48
NanoBCNkemik, indeed, however I can record CDs03:48
frans-ththe server will be setup as unbuntu repo mirror and, gforge.org system.03:48
NanoBCNkemik, with the same device03:48
frans-thpaul: you know gforge??? it look like sourceforge.org03:48
paulproteusfrans-th: I've heard of it.03:49
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conrad_thenuke: sorry, did you read me?03:49
frans-thapokry: thx, i will wait :) may be tomorrow they will send :)03:49
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snorksnerdy2: was it hard?03:49
frans-ththe question from Sun is, how big they must provide the space, so the mirror is can work well.03:49
Malini'm having problems mounting hard drive in Ubuntu Live, is it possible at all?03:50
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frans-thi said 100GB :) is it enought friend?03:50
snorksnerdy2: another thing, does debian use different repositories?03:50
nerdy2snorks: no it wasn't03:50
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pvanhooffrans-th, ask for more disk03:50
snorksnerdy2: and more?03:50
nerdy2snorks: and yes it does03:50
frans-thmore disk?03:50
pvanhooffrans-th, ask for +- 500 gb03:50
nerdy2snorks: the no it wasn't was to "was it hard"03:50
frans-thhow big? 500GB :)03:50
frans-thwow, big :P03:50
IcemanV9#ubuntu-laptop03:50
pvanhoofyes03:50
paulproteusfrans-th: I don't know how big gforge is.  I'd guess Ubuntu is about 20 gigs per release, but it may be as little as 10.03:50
nerdy2snorks: ubuntu has their own repositories yes03:50
apokryphosfrans-th: yes, at least.03:50
IcemanV9oops :)03:51
snorksnerdy2: I figured :) ubuntu has less packages in their repos than debian aswell?03:51
frans-thgforge only 34MB in size, , i think 40GB is enough. :)03:51
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conrad_hi, can someone help me with sound issue?03:51
frans-thbut the ubuntu03:51
snorksnerdy2: gotta run - dinner. ncie talking to you03:51
nerdy2snorks: although they are debian based,   they differ     (e.g. ubuntu had an x.org X server a lot earlier than debian sid did)03:51
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nerdy2snorks: not less if you enable all of them03:51
frans-thpaul: 20 gigs per release??? so i have to manage 6 release, is it possible to manage the lastest version only, to save spaces03:51
frans-thlike, if breezy release, can i delete the warty repo?03:52
paulproteusfrans-th: Let me see exactly how big it is rather than guessing,03:52
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frans-thok ok :) i waiting,03:52
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zzzzsolthey again03:52
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frans-thall: my email is frans@intercitra.com ...03:52
frans-thyou can send this to everyone that can help..03:52
frans-thbut of course not to a spammer :P03:52
apokryphos=)03:52
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apokryphosfrans-th: it's being mentioned now in #ubuntu-devel03:53
carajeanhey guys on nvidia  is this what its suppose to be?   BusID "PCI:1:0:0"03:53
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zzzzsolt<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">03:54
zzzzsolt<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">03:54
frans-thhonestlu, i like this chat room, you are helpfull dude.03:54
zzzzsolt<head>03:54
zzzzsolt<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />03:54
zzzzsolt<meta name="Generator" content="Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor" />03:54
zzzzsolt</head>03:54
frans-thafter my organization finsih setup the mirror, bye bye fedora :P03:54
zzzzsolt<body>03:54
IcemanV9zzzzsolt: don't PASTE in here!!!03:54
zzzzsolt<pre>03:55
zzzzsoltincompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work</pre></body>03:55
zzzzsolt</html>03:55
zzzzsoltdo you have a solution for ati hell? i installed the latest ati driver from ati.com, did fglrxconfig and get this error03:55
zzzzsoltoops, damn03:55
apokryphosfrans-th: it would be really great to get some decent promotion there :)03:55
zzzzsoltyea sorry03:55
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zzzzsoltthat was meant for some other place03:55
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yahalomhow do i unzip a zip file?03:55
whyameyeanybody know anything about webmin03:55
flogistonHi, What program do you guys rekomend fr programming java? I'd like it to be like jcreator03:55
whyameye?03:55
zzzzsoltand it shouldn't have been html either03:55
Originooyahalom: man unzip ;)03:55
frans-thapokryp: my company here, use linux as desktop development, but the java developer still using fedora, this is because warty cannot run java well :) but hoary.. i use it here..03:55
chrismycould anyone nice enough to help me??03:55
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zzzzsoltanyway, did anybody run into this xorg error after installing the ati driver: incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work03:56
d2dchatwhat are .dmg files and how do i access them?03:56
yahalomOriginoo: thanx man :)03:56
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wigihello ubuntu users03:57
IcemanV9chrismy: only if you state the problem :)03:57
pamungkascan't i use rhythmbox to play mp3s instead??03:57
Originooyahalom: "unzip --help" should help too ;)03:57
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frans-thanyone have try the ubuntu DVD? what is the difference between dVD and CD?03:59
frans-thi never use it03:59
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apokryphosfrans-th: the Ubuntu DVD has some extra packages, and is the Install + Live CD03:59
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frans-thapokryp: so 1 DVD is instalelr and life cd right,04:00
frans-thi think wasting space :)04:01
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topylichrismy: sorry, took a nap04:01
apokryphosfrans-th: it is, yes.04:01
apokryphosfrans-th: wasting space... dunno, perhaps. I've never really used it.04:02
frans-thok, i prefer the CD :)04:02
frans-thhehe :)04:02
topylichrismy: still have no beer, i'm going again :)04:02
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pamungkaswhy does one need live cd?04:02
topylipamungkas: to boot a non-working system?04:02
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eliphas_livecd is nice to have a look to a distrib before installing04:03
topylipamungkas: to demonstrate the joys of linux?04:03
vitrioldoes 340fps in glxgears sound reasonable for a pci-e 128mb ati card with the ati drivers installed?04:03
apokryphosfrans-th: yes, me too :)04:03
pamungkashmm i'd prefer install it directly tho04:03
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frans-thok, apokryp: forget the DVD :) hehe04:03
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pamungkaslive cd is too slow04:04
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topylipamungkas: so do i, but some people are more careful about changing operating systems, so you have to demo :)04:04
paulproteusBye frans-th!04:04
pamungkasahh ok04:04
carajeanok finally got my nvidia drivers installed now i cant access my online game can some tell me how to set up my internet connection?04:04
bluesceadavitriol: probably not i'D say :S04:04
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frans-thpaul: will you send the mirror CD to me? or it is better wait canonical reply?04:05
apokryphosfrans-th: if you're low on space, then it might be a good idea.04:05
pamungkasis there anyone from indonesia?04:05
frans-thlow on space?04:05
carajeanwow 78 minutes to download patch04:05
apokryphosfrans-th: yes, on the server.04:07
frans-thanyone from indonesia? i see the mirror list, no indonesia mirror yet04:07
topylipamungkas: i heard lots of people are from there :)04:07
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frans-thpamungkas is indonesian name04:07
pamungkasyeh wish i could up a server there04:07
carajeanthis shouldnt happen there is something wrong with my connection is there anyone that can tell me how to check if i have a firewall up?04:07
apokryphosfrans-th: I think the main priority would be the CD, and being an actual mirror, repository.04:07
frans-thbut if someone can give me the indoensian contact, taht will be cool, no need to send again04:07
pamungkasyes i'm from indonesia04:07
frans-thpamungkas :) is indonesian name, but where r u now?04:07
pamungkasi'm in thailand04:07
apokryphospamungkas: frans-th here is working on getting a mirror04:07
frans-thoh :) hehe..04:07
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pamungkassorry i just switched to linux, so i'm basicly a n00b:P04:07
frans-thpamungkas new in linux :P hehe, but what r u doing in thailand :P04:07
topylipamungkas: welcome to the free world!04:07
vitriolgah04:07
pamungkasisnt there itb.ac.id server?04:07
pamungkasthanks04:07
pamungkasim working here04:07
pamungkasjava developer04:07
frans-thhehe, me too :)04:07
frans-thitb.ac.id ?? what for dude..04:08
pamungkasi used m$ then switched to mac, and now linux:D04:08
frans-thhehe04:08
pamungkasi got contact there04:08
pamungkasin itb.ac.id04:08
frans-thwho?04:08
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eliphas_DR.04:09
carajeanok does anyone here no about internet connections and ubuntu??04:09
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topylii have an internet connection04:10
pamungkasme too=)04:10
topylicarajean: why don't you ask a question?04:10
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frans-thbye all04:11
frans-ththx for the chat04:11
frans-thupdate will come soon04:11
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{GuNNeR}could someone help me with getting my s video out to work on my laptop in ubuntu04:12
topylimassive attack does rule like they claimed04:12
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znhHello, I have a problem with my nvidia drivers on -k7.. more details can be found here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5924804:12
siucdudehello everyone i got mess on my pc and i need help04:12
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siucdudei use breezy and after update on my pc yesturday i my xorg id not start04:13
znhsiucdude, know problem.... it's known..04:14
topylibreezy might be broken, plain and simple04:14
Akbarcan you upgrade from debian unstable to ubuntu or is it better to install from installer?04:14
carajeananyone know how to do port forwarding?04:14
siucdudeok well i did a lot of symlinks and other stuff04:14
znhAkbar, I think that would be the fastest way04:14
topyliAkbar: i upgraded from sid to hoary back then, but found it wiser to reinstall04:14
siucdudeby mistake i deleted the /bin folder04:14
siucdudeso now i am in deep hole04:15
znhyeah..04:15
znhreinstall..04:15
Hikaru79siucdude, wow....04:15
topylisiucdude: yes you are, it's gone04:15
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siucdudeok i have a colony 3 cd from 2 days ago and i want to reinstall but i don't see04:15
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siucdudeupdate04:15
siucdudeall i get is erase partition and reinstall04:15
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Stompey00i have a quick que. I used pppconfig to set up a modem and it does dial and seems to be behaving normally but it never accomplishes a connect. i use  pon and poff says there is no connect04:16
siucdudeis there anything that can be done to upgrade so i don't loose all my data on that pc04:16
Stompey00. Also, is there a way to enable call waiting as in windows *69 ?04:16
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kemiksiucdude:  sounds fubar04:16
pamungkashi, anyone know error message Could not open vfs file "file:///media/IPOD%20U2/iPod_Control/Music/F03/NQKS.m4a" for reading.04:16
diemanso like04:17
EasterSunshinehow would i echo two newlines? echo "\n\n" spits \n\n back out04:17
diemanis breezy usable ie: not completely broken?04:17
pamungkasanyone?:(04:17
kemikdieman:  for some it is.. for some it breaks04:17
EasterSunshinepamungkas: check the permissions on that file: `ls -l /media/IPOD%20U2/iPod_Control/Music/F03/NQKS.m4a`04:18
carajeanwhat is a network address?04:19
siucdudeso anyone can help i want to know if there is a way to upgrade without distroying the current partition on disk04:19
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EasterSunshine!upgrade2breezy04:19
ubotuhmm... upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:19
znhdieman, don't forget the -e flga04:19
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adamtadhi all04:19
adamtadgood morning04:19
znhgood midday04:20
adamtadthanks04:20
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diemanznh: oh, i know how to do it :)04:20
diemanits more the 'is it broken today' aspect04:20
adamtaddoes anyone have experience installing Opera browser?04:20
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adamtadi've downloaded the *.deb package04:20
kemiksiucdude:  for a usual upgrade yes; but since you've effectively deleted *alot* of files, i think you'll need  a fresh re-install04:20
znhdieman, hehe okay.. just didn't knew how many expierence you had ;) - sorry!04:20
EasterSunshine!info opera04:20
EasterSunshineopera is not free? my bro told me it is commercial browser04:21
diemanznh: np :)04:21
siucdudekemik: so the cd does not have upgrade fetures04:21
adamtadand have run the sudo dpkg -i package_file.deb04:21
pamungkasno such file or directory:S but i can browse it with nautilus:S04:21
adamtaddidnt work, error told me to install the package name, not the file it came in04:21
EasterSunshinewhere would i read up on what ubuntu has over debian?04:22
adamtadEaster, it is free browser if you can live with the advertisements04:22
adamtadto get rid, then you pay for browser & support, etc04:22
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EasterSunshineadamtad: would you happen to know repo has it and/or how its performance compares to that of firefox04:22
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adamtadi'm told its fastest04:23
adamtadwhich is  a lofty claim04:23
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adamtadlet me get u the URL04:23
kemiksiucdude:  well upgrade and recovery are different things04:23
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damoeOh my god, I just got 10 copies of Ubuntu!04:24
paulproteusdamoe: ?04:24
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adamtadhttp://www.opera.com/download/04:24
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damoepaulproteus: i ordered 10 ubuntu copies about 3 months ago04:24
siucdudekemik: correct but for example i used to use fedora and i could reinstall the cd as upgrade and did not have to erase the entire disk to reinstall it04:24
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adamtadi like firefox, but its slow to open, and somewhat slow in loading pages too04:25
damoepaulproteus: http://photos23.flickr.com/36510286_5df6daf8f8_b.jpg <= look :D04:25
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diemandamoe: yeah, shipit can take a while, but the cds are nice to hand out to users.04:25
siucdudekemik: i guess what i need to know if anyone knows is there a feture that will let me skip partition and just install the cd on my disk04:25
paulproteusOoh, the Hoary discs look cool.04:25
damoepaulproteus: yeah, i'll give some to my friends04:26
kemiksiucdude:  ah. that sounds do-able, but i'mnot 100%04:26
kemiksiucdude:  stick around and wait fro someone who knows.. or try the forums?04:26
Dr_Willisskip partition?04:27
siucdudekemik: thanks04:27
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siucdudeyes trying to reinstall cd without partitioning my disk or otherwords erase the entire disk04:27
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Dr_Willisinstalling over a pervious install.. ahh...04:28
siucdudeyep04:28
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Shadow-TezCan I get some help installing NX client?04:28
Dr_Willisbut in most cases i think any existing config files would/should get renamed to whatever.backup or similer.04:28
Dr_Willisof course there may be a better fix to whatever problem you are having that  makes you want to do this reinstall.04:29
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siucdudeDr_Willis: yes but you see i did a update and my xorg got broken so i started palyaing and i del the entire bin folder04:29
Dr_Willislol :P04:29
Dr_WillisBeen there done that...04:30
Dr_Willisi bet ya wont do it next time will ya.04:30
kemikhrmpfh04:30
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siucdudeno but this makes it fun04:30
kemiksomeone apt with the "route" command?04:30
Dr_Willisactually i think thers  some apt options that can check for missing files or somthing.04:30
Dr_Willisand reinstall the packages.04:30
siucdudeyes but i can't boot into command04:31
Dr_Willisassuminb ya dident remove the apt programs.04:31
Dr_Willis:P04:31
matsuranyone have google earth running w/ wine?04:31
siucdudethe entire /bin folder04:31
Dr_Willissiucdude,  heh - could boot a live cd and chroot over..  but youve really painted yourself into the corner.04:31
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Dr_Willisive never really tried to do what you are wanting to do. if you could some how tell the installer to not format, and use existing partitions - i guess it could work.04:32
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siucdudesee i used to jump from distro to distro and i did notice that some distros you can do that04:33
javithe installer asks you if you wants to format04:33
javi(only if you dont change your partition scheme)04:33
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siucdudejavi: i am not changing the partition scheme i use the entire disk but there is not option to skip that04:33
DJ555Hey04:34
javiyes it is04:34
siucdudejavi: only options are to erase entire disk04:34
javiwhen it asks where to mount the partition, etc04:34
siucdudejavi: how?04:34
DJ555Do you speak english only?04:34
DJ555Because my english isnt the best04:34
seliniumHi all, anyway of starting xmms without it opening a tag on the window browser?04:34
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javiyou have to go through manual partitioning04:35
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seliniumDJ555: what is your native language04:35
whyameyevpn? pptp? webmin? anybody know anything?04:35
DJ555german04:35
siucdudejavi: ok i am on my laptop now let me try this and see what happens on my pc04:35
DJ555But i can try it in english04:35
jaramillocool siucdude04:35
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DJ555But i am not good in IRC too ^^ So i am sorry if i make a mistake04:36
Slyany simple ways of tv-out with nvidia ?04:36
siucdudejavi: at boot should i go "boot: expert" or regural04:36
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kemiksiucdude:  regular04:36
DJ555Here is my problem: Ubuntu can't find my DVD-ROM. I got it as the Slave. The Master is the HDD04:36
kemiksiucdude:  it's when they ask for partitioning that you choose "edit partition table manually"04:37
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DJ555I got a Intel i915P Chipset04:37
NanoBCNstill having problems with DVD burning...04:37
EasterSunshinebefore i sign up for shipit, i want to know if we can place an order for pressed breezy so that it will arive not too long after release, is that available yet?04:37
seliniumDJ555: there is a german speaking ubuntu channel. /j #ubuntu-dk    I think? If you have trouble here!04:37
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kemikdk  = denmark ;)04:37
kemiktry #ubuntu-de04:38
kemikor somesuch04:38
DJ555OK04:38
DJ555Thanks04:38
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seliniumkemik: Yep, DOH04:38
kemik:P04:38
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DJ555#ubuntu-de04:38
DJ555Oh04:38
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kemikcrap.. cant get my lan to function properly04:38
kemikDJ555:  /join #ubuntu-de04:39
DJ555Jo04:39
pamungkaswhats an alternative web browser for ubuntu? mozilla is just wayy too slow for my machine:S04:39
siucdudeok i am at manual partiton but i don't see anything all options lead to erase disk04:39
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DJ555I found it ^^04:39
DJ555BigTHX04:39
seliniumDJ555: no problem04:39
kemikpamungkas:  links04:39
kemik:>04:40
pamungkasits fast?04:40
kemikit should be04:40
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pamungkasok ill give a try04:40
kemikbut i dont think you'll find it useful04:40
seliniumkemik: do you mean lynx?04:40
pamungkaswhy?04:40
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kemikselinium:  maybe i do ;)04:40
seliniumkemik: one all!04:40
jgjonesAlternative browser to Firefox - Opera - ok it's adware but it's very fast, it does so much more than Firefox can do and is among one of the better browser you can get.04:41
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jaramillosiucdude,04:41
jaramillohere04:41
jaramilloim javi04:41
seliniumpamungkas: it is a text only browser04:41
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siucdudeok cool04:41
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pamungkasah ok04:41
pamungkasill try opera then04:41
kemikselinium:  yeah ;)04:41
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jaramillosiucdude, regular04:41
pamungkasok gtg guys04:41
jamessarawakhi..04:41
siucdudei got in manual but don't see anything to skip it04:41
pamungkasthanks for all the help04:41
jamessarawakI can't get ubuntu to run :(04:41
kemikpamungkas:  opera could be a better choice yes04:41
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jamessarawaksomething happen to the startx04:41
jgjonespamungkas - you have to get ...oh too late :)04:41
jaramillothere's a line, that says: going to be formated. or leave it as it is04:42
jaramilloor something like that04:42
siucdudejaramillo: options it gives me are conf raid conf lvm guided partion or help on partion04:42
seliniumjamessarawak: what is happening, or not as the case may be! :)04:42
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jaramillobelow those04:42
jamessarawakit said the startx fail to start04:42
jgjonesjamessarawak - running hoary or breezy?04:42
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jamessarawakI've to remove the partition... and reinstall windows04:42
jamessarawakroary04:42
jamessarawakhoary04:42
jaramillomanual partitioning04:43
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siucdudeundo changes to partitions finish partioning and write changes to disk04:43
jamessarawakyeah... its the startx.. the GUI wouldn't start04:43
jamessarawakgiving me a doslike thing04:43
siucdudeyes its manual partitioning04:43
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jaramillobetween those04:44
jaramillowhere you put where it is going to be mounted04:44
jaramilloif it is bootable04:44
jaramilloetc04:44
jgjonesI normally use the command "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" rather than startx myself04:44
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DJ555Yo! I got now another problem. These germans don't know what to do.04:44
siucdudeall i got is ide1 the disk04:44
kemikhow do i setup so my machines on the 192.168.1.x network can talk to the machines on 192.168.2.y ... as it is now, only the "routerbox" (192.168.1.1) can talk to 192.168.2.y04:45
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seliniumjamessarawak: try sudo dpkg-reconfiger xserver-xorg  and follow the walk through. try it with framebuffer, then if it doesn't work without it.04:45
seliniumjamessarawak: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and follow the walk through. try it with framebuffer, then if it doesn't work without it.04:45
Jowikemik what do you mean by talking?04:45
jamessarawakmaybe I'm using the older version??04:45
jamessarawakI'm using 4.104:45
kemikJowi:  ping/ssh etc etc ;)04:45
conrad_Hello, i came by earlier hoping for some assistance on sound issue, could anyone advise me on that now?04:45
jamessarawakby the way is it easy to set up DSL connection using UBUNTU?04:46
kemikJowi:  both the 192.168.2.x and 192.168.1.y networks can use the internet through the routerbox, but they just cannot access eachother04:46
jgjonesif you have dhcp...yep04:46
seliniumconrad_ Ask the question, maybe, maybe not....04:46
jamessarawakdhcp is chaging the modem setting inside the memory?04:46
conrad_i don't know what the question is exactly04:46
kemikjamessarawak:  dhcp lets you lease internet-adresses dynamically04:46
jaramillowell, smoething must be different04:47
kemikit assigns IP address "automagically" ;)04:47
redguyconrad_: you can't expect that someone in here asks it fo r you04:47
jamessarawakokay... meaning window connection uses DHCP too?04:47
conrad_the trouble i have is it appears is i have sound driver share issues04:47
conrad_it stops the kde sound system (arts ) from starting04:47
kemikjamessarawak:  yes, dhcp is used in windows too..04:47
conrad_basically i don't have sound with kde apps04:48
jamessarawaklike making new connection?04:48
kemikyou lost me04:48
conrad_even gnome sound is compromised04:48
siucdudejaramillo: every option gives me erase entire partition and install new one04:48
conrad_i use ubuntu/ Gnome04:48
jamessarawakI see.. so UBUNTU could let me connect to the internet by changing the setting in UBUNTU and not changing the memory of the modem?04:48
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ekimusout of interest is it "f * ck" or "F A Q" when native english speakers pronounce F.A.Q.?04:48
znhwhat kernel versions can I use with an Amd Athlon XP? (except k7)04:48
conrad_when i switched into kde, sound used to work, but even that doesn't anymore since i tdid artsd -s ese04:49
kemikjamessarawak:  if i understand you correctly then "yes" you dont need to change a memeory in the modem04:49
jaramilloit's under every partition where you can choose the FS to use04:49
jamessarawakcool :) thanks kemik04:49
jamessarawakI'll download the latest version and try again.. then04:49
Jowikemik: let me get this straight. you have connected two networks to the same router.  the router gives IP to network 1 automaticly through dhcp and the other one is static that uses the router as a gateway?04:49
jaramilloit's there where you can choose 'leave it as it is', or 'format the partition'04:49
Yak-chumekimus it depends on how frustrated I am when i am reading it04:49
conrad_sorry if my question isn't straightforward, but i hope i'm giving the right picture04:49
redguyznh: from i386 up to 686 I think04:49
znhredguy, hmm.. does 686 support >900MB ram?04:49
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conrad_hello?04:50
Yak-chum48604:50
seliniumconrad_  have you looked at what artsd -s ese does?    type artsd --help to find out what may of happened04:50
ekimusYak-chum: *g*04:50
kemikJowi:  yeah that's about it ;) (the ...162.2.x is dhcp and 1 is static... ) and the router is actually a debian-serverinstall04:50
siucdudeno i guess ubuntu does not have that option on install04:50
wuwuhi all, is there currently a problem with the backports servers ? - i can't install sun-j2re-1.504:50
siucdudeevery cd install is clean install04:50
znhwuwu, backports is a error at hisself :p04:51
redguyznh: it should I think, there should't be any trouble with ram up to 4GiB with linux I think04:51
conrad_selinium: i had sound issue besides that04:51
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znhredguy, 386 only supports 90004:51
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kemikoh my.. icewm is really fast.. just booted my p2-233 64mb ram.. and starting X/icewm took ~ 30secs!04:51
seliniumconrad_ Ok, i am not a KDE user. I am going to see what you did by keying artsd -s ese04:52
conrad_artsd -s   auto-suspend time in seconds04:52
redguyznh: meaning that I'm not sure. The mainboard might have some limitations.04:52
conrad_seinium: im Gnome user04:52
redguyznh: what do you mean by that: the i386 flavour of the kernel?04:52
znhredguy, lol it's not my mortherboard :P04:52
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conrad_i did have kde as option in session tab, and when i did go into kde my sound seemed fine in comparison with Gnome04:52
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jaramillowell, must be04:53
jaramillo;-)04:53
conrad_but i want to sort out the sound issue in gnome as that is my preferred default gui04:53
kemikJowi:  and ideas about my network nightmare? ;)04:53
Jowikemik: i am thinking04:53
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conrad_thenuke: i thought you wanted to help me with this earlier, but yoiu seemed to vanish on me?04:53
seliniumconrad_ I am a gnome user and i do not have the arts daemon installed. KDE must have installed it when you install your KDE app04:54
conrad_selinium: do you not have kde apps? like K3B?04:54
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siucdudejaramillo: do you know if there is way to put in a parameter to skipp partition configuration04:54
thenukeconrad_: I havent said anything like that :)04:54
jaramillohm, no04:55
seliniumconrad_ Sometimes peoples bosses walk in, No i dont have k3b04:55
jaramilloyou must tell the installer where to install stuff ;-)04:55
conrad_thenuke: then i got the misimpression, because i understood that you were responding to my request for help04:55
thenukeconrad_: you asked if you can ask a question in here04:55
jaramilloin which partition04:55
jaramilloetc04:55
siucdudeok04:55
siucdudeok question 204:56
jaramilloif you dont specify it, then it will do an auto-partitioning04:56
Jowikemik: i would guess that you need to set up a static route. i *think* the command goes something like : route add -host 192.168.2.x gw 192.168.1.x04:56
Jowikemik: hang on, i saw a good url somewhere04:56
redguyznh: How do you know that i386 kernel supports only 900 MiB of ram? I'd like to educate myself :-)04:56
siucdudei got option to use the largest continous free space04:56
conrad_selinium:  however, by all accounts i should be able to run kde apps like k3b04:56
thenukeconrad_: but as others too read your about your problem, I guess someone would have helped if they knew how to04:56
kemikJowi:  mmh, i tried setting up a route but the way i did it didnt work.. i'll hold ;)04:56
jaramilloim about to reboot, just to write down the steps so you can choose what im telling you ;-)04:56
znhredguy, it's a limitation.. of the kernel :-)04:56
siucdudeok thanx04:57
conrad_thenuke: if you couldn't help fair enough. I know it is a tough issue, and no one in the forums has wanted to tackle it either.04:57
conrad_as i say it was a misperception on my part that you wanted to help, i'm sorry04:57
Sionideanyone here use XFCE or another lightweight desktop environment with ubuntu?04:57
znhSionide, yea I did04:57
seliniumconrad_ true, but when you install a KDE app, it will also install it's dependant apps like artsd, this may have overrulled what you already had running.04:57
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Sionideznh, which one?04:57
znhSionide, hm.. lets say all :P04:58
jaramillojust 1 min, im helping some other ppl too ;)04:58
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Jowikemik: did you try the "net" option as well? route add -net 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.1004:58
Sionidehow easy are they to install / use / switch between ?04:58
znhSionide, very easy04:58
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conrad_selinium: yes, normally it would have dealt with dependency issues and compatibility and integrity of the system as a whole04:58
Sionidei mean, they're as easy as synaptic or apt-get to install, right?04:58
Jowikemik: ah, here it is: http://www.aboutdebian.com/network.htm explains static routing as well04:58
siucdudehey i got time today i appriciate this04:58
znhSionide, depends on the window manager, bust mostly it's easy04:58
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conrad_selinium: where do i go from here now that i have this problem, to resolve the issue04:59
Sionideznh which would recommend?04:59
Sionideyou*04:59
seliniumconrad_ I did see some sound help somewhere earlier today. I will see if I can find it again. I realise this must be frustrating.04:59
znhSionide, hmm.. what are musts for you?04:59
conrad_thank you04:59
kemikJowi:  ty, will look into that later =)04:59
znhSionide, or better said requirements04:59
hussamwhere on the hard disk does firestarter store the event logs?04:59
Jowikemik: np04:59
kemik!tell conrad_ about sound04:59
kemikconrad_:  see your pm04:59
redguyznh: thats odd, since there are options in the kernel config CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G and CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G which allow to use more than 4 GiB and 64 GiB of ram respectively through some addressing magic04:59
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znhredguy, yep but there's still a limitation05:00
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conrad_kemik: huh?05:00
kemikconrad_:  from ubotu05:00
conrad_ubotu?05:00
seliniumkemik: does !tell call ubotu?05:00
kemik!sound05:00
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/05:00
MrBrdohey.. my DVD drive just stopped working, and now when i login to gnome, i get unable to intialize HAL, and the panels and desktop don't load correcty.. (panels are blank)05:01
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kemikselinium:  yes, try "!tell selinium about ntfs" to try it05:01
MrBrdois there some way to tell HAL to not look for a DVD drive05:01
selinium!tell selinium about ntfs05:01
MrBrdoi'm on a notebook and the bois still says the drive is there but it's not working.. (it's dead)05:01
znhSionide, you still there?05:01
conrad_kemik: thx ill follow the link05:01
kemikah well.. tv&food time etc05:01
seliniumkemik: Cool i can stop telling users to /msg ubotu then!05:01
redguyznh: you can't expect me to believe that unless you provide me with some link, where I could read about it.05:01
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conrad_seinium: just to let youknow that someone had found this useful: going into gedit startartsd05:02
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MrBrdoso how to make HAL not look for a DVD drive? or not set it up or something?05:02
znhredguy, well.. I heard of everyone, and it's a fact - It only detects 900MB05:02
conrad_putting some command in the file and saving it05:02
jaramillok05:02
jaramillobrb05:02
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MrBrdo!tell HAL05:02
conrad_then system/preferences/sessions05:02
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bob2_sucksHola!05:02
MrBrdo!tell call HAL05:03
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conrad_then startup programs05:03
conrad_but it didn't do it for me05:03
bob2_sucksAnyone here use Ubuntu?05:03
MrBrdono, most ppl on Windows here..05:03
znhbob2_sucks, naah..05:03
znhwhat a question..05:03
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dinno, they all use windows here05:03
Jowiubuwhatnow?05:03
bob2_sucksAre you guys being ironic?05:04
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MrBrdoso.. anyone knows about this HAL service? how to make it not look for a DVD drive?05:04
bob2_sucksI can't tell in a written medium.05:04
eventualbuddhais there a standard location for SSL pem files?05:04
bob2_sucksMrBrdo: I only know a bit about the 8000 series.  The 9000 series isn't on the market yet.05:05
seliniumeventualbuddha: You keep asking that question....05:05
MrBrdo8000 series? of what?05:05
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paulproteusbob2_sucks: regarding nick: lol!05:05
MrCroupHAL 9000 == 2001 joke05:05
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Sionideznh, sorry - back. err well ive got an old machine im making into a media centre- it just needs to play music :D05:05
Jowibob2_sucks: i have a similar problem but it is very different. I have no depth perseption. I can not tell if my fishes are in the aquarium or molten into the aquarium glass :-(05:05
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ejumpz_where can i get zones.conf file for shorewall?? because in my /etc/shorewall/ don't have this file..05:06
seliniumeventualbuddha: Weren't you talking to thoreauputic about that?05:06
bob2_sucksJowi: I'd opt for the latter.05:06
MrBrdobob2_sucks, i'm not sure which version i have.. it's ubuntu 5.4.. anyway, when i login to gnome it says unable to intialize HAL.. My DVD drive just stopped working so that's probably the reason, is there a way to make HAL ignore it?05:06
eventualbuddhaselinium: i've talked to thoreauputic about something before, though not pem files or anything to do with SSL05:06
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seliniumeventualbuddha: Sorry, i must be mistaken.05:07
bob2_sucksMrBrdo: HAL doesn't ignore much.  He listens to everything, and interprets it very literally...05:07
seliniumeventualbuddha: Anyway I dont know! :)05:07
eventualbuddhaselinium: this is a new issue for me :D05:07
MrBrdoeven if i remove the drive it still errors out, probably because i'm on a notebook and the bios still reports the drive05:07
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MrBrdobob2_sucks so any way to make the error go away?05:07
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bob2_sucksYou could try going into the memory room, and removing all those crystal-looking things.05:08
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bob2_sucksThat should shut him down, hopefully in time to save your crew.05:08
MrBrdoP05:09
MrBrdo?05:09
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MrCroupMrBardo: check /var/log/messages for information on why the hardware abstraction layer is having a trauma05:09
javi:-)05:09
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MrBrdoMrCroup i'm sure it's because of the DVD drive05:09
jaramillosiucdude,05:09
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siucdudeyes05:10
jaramilloalright05:10
dinMrBrdo: uninstall the dvd drive?05:10
jaramillolook05:10
kameronis there anyway to write the grub bootloader to the MBR, from within windows? i need to reinstall it.05:10
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kameronor, from within a live disc for that matter. i have ubuntu live here, and knoppix.05:10
MrBrdodin in what way? even if i remove it from the notebook bios still detetcs it and hal still has a problem with it05:10
siucdudeok you got it05:10
dinkameron: not that i know of, a live cd yes05:10
kamerondin: do you know how to from a live disc, or just know that it is possible?05:10
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MrBrdokandinski: but the ubuntu livecd doesn't seem to have grub on it05:11
dinummm05:11
MrBrdokameron even05:11
Dr_Willisfrom about any grub menu command line you can reinstall it.05:11
Dr_Willisif you knoe what you are doing. :P05:11
MrBrdodin even05:11
BrazmetalHey people... Where can I get the original ubuntu's xorg.conf file?05:11
MrBrdodamn :)05:11
MrBrdoBrazmetal there is none05:11
dinMrBrdo: if it did not have grub on it, you could not install ubuntu from it05:11
dinheh05:11
dinyou must have a kernel to boot to05:11
MrBrdoBrazmetal i think.. cause xorg.conf has to be configured per hardware05:12
kamerondin: and.. you can't install ubuntu from the live cd.05:12
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jaramilloPartition Disks -> Manually edit partition table -> (In the HD where you want to specify which partitions not to format, select that one, *enter over that one*, i.e: #3). -> Partition Settings -> Use as: *Select the file system*. Format the partition: No, keep existing data.05:12
MrBrdokandinski: ? the livecd.. it's puropuse isn't to install..?05:12
BrazmetalMrBrdo, really?... I thought it wasn't05:12
jaramillosiucdude, there.05:12
jaramillo:-)05:12
dinkameron: well if it has grub on it you can reinstall it05:12
dinjust run grub05:12
BrazmetalMrBrdo, can You send me yours?05:12
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MrBrdoBrazmetal sure.. run xorgconfig or something05:12
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siucdudeok let me see05:12
djtanseyi hope someone here can help me with openoffice. i am trying to make a form which includes a last name, first name, etc field. i used a table with lots of columns to make a field for input (like where you have one letter per box.) i want to superimpose the name of each field in small print (white on black) ontop of the table. is there a way to have floating text in openoffice, so i can float it over the input boxes? any other s05:13
djtanseyuggestions?05:13
MrBrdoBrazmetal mine is not default anymore.. it's configured for ATI drivers (fglx)05:13
deFryskdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:13
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BrazmetalMrBrdo, ah ok05:13
kameronto save the hassle of a learning experience, i think i might just do another fresh install..05:13
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MrBrdoBrazmetal there are some tools to make a conf file for you.. i think one is xorgconfig.. other ppl here should know exactly which ones.. i forgot :)05:13
siucdudeok that seems to easy05:13
JowiBrazmetal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - i think if you have totally screwed it up.05:13
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kameronif i don't put the bootloader on the MBR, what other places can i put it, other than a floopy/other media/usb drive.05:13
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Gratyo MrBrdo :>05:13
jaramillo;-)05:13
jaramilloit is05:14
MrBrdoGrat?05:14
Grat:>05:14
siucdudenow lets see after i process this  ;)05:14
jaramillo:D05:14
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paulproteusdjtansey: See #openoffice.org05:14
kameroneh, i'll just give'er again. talk to you guys later.05:14
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djtanseypaulproteus: thanks!05:15
Whistlerhmm sorry for stupid question, but can anybody help me forward bittorent ports?05:16
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FanskapetWhistler ask the question then05:17
Fanskapetelse noone will be able to help you05:17
wickedpuppyforward ?05:17
JowiWhistler: you need to be more precise05:17
uthini!nvidia05:17
ubotuI guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia05:17
phil197hello05:17
phil197i need some help please05:18
Jowihi phil19705:18
Whistlerwhat do i need to type to Local Address From:    Local Address To: fields05:18
Fanskapetwickedpuppy forwarding in what system? a hardware router? natd? or problem with routing05:18
Whistler?05:18
Fanskapetyour local ip05:18
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Fanskapetin your LAN05:18
Whistlermy pc?05:18
phil197i installed ubuntu on my pc05:18
Fanskapetyes05:18
phil197but i have no sound05:18
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wickedpuppyFanskapet, i was replying to Whistler05:18
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siucdudewell i had to restart the install05:19
jaramillowhy?05:19
Jowiphil197: run alsamixer in a terminal and see if your sound isn't muted first of all.05:19
Fanskapetwickedpuppy ahh yeah sorry i meant to send to Whistler :)05:19
VixusHey, could someone help me get my mic working with ubuntu?05:19
siucdudeit said something out root not setup so i restarted and will start the install from start05:19
phil197alsamixer?05:19
jaramilloEsc would have taken you to the Menus of menus ;)05:19
Jowiphil197: yes05:20
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jaramillok05:20
jaramillo:)05:20
uthinii still can't install the nvidia driver05:20
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uthinieven if i stop gdm05:20
phil197i type it in a root terminal?05:20
chrissturmwhats the find syntax i must use to remove all directories named CVS in a tree?05:20
Jowiphil197: root is not needed05:20
siucdudei did esc but it did the same i just figured start fresh05:20
Vixusphil197: so I just run alsamixer?05:20
hmrochahello05:20
Vixusphil197: I want to record with Audacity.05:20
hmrochahow can i change a string inside a file from the command line?05:20
jaramillouthini, why ?05:21
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JowiVixus: phil197 have no sound and need help. he's not trying to help you. :-)05:21
jaramillosiucdude, k, n/p :)05:21
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smudohi all05:21
VixusJowi: Whoops.05:21
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I_hate_OpsHola!05:21
smudoHaving some difficulty with logging in.05:21
Vixusphil197: Sorry.05:21
smudoI'm running kdm as the login manager, and when I try to log in, it just goes back to the login window.05:21
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VixusSo can anyone help me get the mic going? :D05:21
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JowiVixus: but you can actually try the same. run alsa mixer and see if you can unmute the mic and pull up the volume to max05:22
Whistlerhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1553 is everything ok?05:22
siucdudei think so let see what it does05:22
MrBrdophil197 there's a mixer in programs-sound-mixer05:22
MrBrdoif you have hoary05:22
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chrismyoders05:22
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VixusJowi: Done.05:23
siucdudehey again "no root file system is defined"05:23
phil197nvm05:23
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phil197precisely05:23
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phil197i don't know if i have a mixer, and if not, how to creater one05:23
JowiVixus: success?05:23
VixusJowi: Yes... mic works, but Audacity doesn't get any input05:23
Jowiphil197: open a terminal. type: "alsamixer"05:23
VixusJowi: My voice just amplified through speakers.05:23
jaramilloyou need to specify where 'root' / is going to be mounted05:24
JowiVixus: try "killall esd" in a terminal05:24
jaramilloi.e: /dev/hda105:24
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smudo!upgrade2breezy05:24
uboturumour has it, upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:24
jaramilloso the installer knows, where to install the hole / tree05:24
uthinijaramillo, when i run the nivida installer app it says that no build exists for my setup :(05:24
jaramillo:)05:24
phil197yes i typed it05:24
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VixusJowi: What will that do?05:24
jaramillouthini, install it through apt05:24
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phil197this sets the volume?05:24
Whistlerhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1553 is everything ok?05:25
jaramillo# apt-get install nvidia-glx05:25
Absenthhow well does breezy work at this point?05:25
VixusJowi: Done.05:25
phil197how can i know if i have a mixer?05:25
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jaramilloyou'll need the universe repository05:25
dabaRAbsenth: its usage is still for testing purposes.05:25
uthinijaramillo, will that install 7676?05:25
deFryskphil197, open alsmixer05:25
Jowiphil197: this is one of the tools available, yes. up/down arrow change the volume "M" button mutes/unmutes05:25
uthinior what ever that latest version is?05:25
Jowiphil197: unmute Master and PCM05:25
hussamanybody knows where on the hard disk does firestarter store the event logs?05:26
dabaRAbsenth: If you can spare a partition, nothing is to stop you from testing it out, and it would be appreciated. /topic to see where and how to install.05:26
jaramillodont know05:26
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jaramilloit will install the latest packaged driver05:26
AbsenthdabaR: I'll do that tonight when I get home.  Thanks.05:26
dabaRAbsenth: Im about to remove a sarge install, to install the breezy, it has a boot splash screen.05:26
P8ntKidDoes anybody know the command to take a screenshot?05:26
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KyralPrint Scrn05:26
JowiVixus: did that work or not? if not, do you have two soundcards on your pc?05:26
dabaRYou need to enable it, tho, its not default yet.05:26
Kyralthe key :P05:26
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phil197how can i create a mixer?05:26
AbsenthdabaR: are there torrents for breezy yet?05:26
deFryskP8ntKid, print screen button05:26
VixusJowi: Nah, just one... Audacity still doesnt get input.05:27
dabaRsure are, /topic05:27
KyraldabaR, don't install Breezy!!05:27
Jowiphil197: it is automatic when the driver for your soundcard is loaded.05:27
dabaROr I think there are, I cant remember now...05:27
Jowi!sound05:27
ubotuhmm... sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/05:27
P8ntKiddeFrysk, does it work with linux? I havent ever got it to work.05:27
dabaRKyral: :P:)05:27
Jowiphil197: check that sound-link05:27
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uthinikay will try05:27
KyralP8ntKid, are you in GNOME?05:27
phil197i don't have an object named mixer in /dev05:27
jaramillosiucdude, what's happened ?05:27
P8ntKidNo, why?05:27
dabaRKyral: I kinda know what Im doing...I am gonna remove a sarge install off my second HD, and install a breezy there...05:27
deFryskP8ntKid, it should in gnome that is05:27
phil197i don't know if it is necessary05:27
P8ntKidoh05:27
P8ntKidIm on fluxbox05:28
KyralP8ntKid, only works in GNOME IIRC05:28
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dabaRthis  hoary wont be touched,.. kyral.05:28
VixusJowi: Any ideas?05:28
deFryskhmz in kde they have ksnapshot i believe (not sure)05:28
JowiVixus: is audacitys preferences /dev/dsp for recording?05:28
KyraldabaR, good man!05:28
dabaRKyral: ya, jus to test uit out...05:28
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deFryskP8ntKid, try ksnapshot05:28
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VixusJowi: Yep.05:28
Thunder00are there  backport/universe/multiverse repositories for Breezy ?05:29
deFryskP8ntKid, otherwist try #kubuntu , wich is a more kde-centric channel for ubuntu05:29
siucdudejaramillo i can't get the root to mount05:29
KyralThunder00, Universe Yes05:29
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hybrid_gothThunder00: universe and multiverse05:29
KyralBackports: No05:29
JowiVixus: is gnome-sound-recorder working?05:29
KyralBackports are made from Breezy :P05:29
hybrid_gothbackports are for stable branch05:29
jaramillosiucdude, do you know where your / was mounted ?05:29
jaramilloi mean05:29
Thunder00I c :)05:29
jaramillowhich partition05:29
P8ntKiddeFrysk, Im not using KDE, im using Fluxbox...05:30
jaramillohda1, 2, 3, etc ?05:30
P8ntKidI dont have Kde installed05:30
siucdudeyes hda105:30
phil197<jowi>: do i have to have a thing named mixer in /dev?05:30
Thunder00is Breezy stable enough ? does it have alot of bugs ?05:30
phil197 do i have to have a thing named mixer in /dev?05:30
hybrid_gothThunder00: define stable05:30
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VixusJowi: No, when I try to playback it says: Could not open resource for writing.05:31
Thunder00<hybrid_goth> has few bugs :>05:31
dabaRThunder00: its usage is still for testing purposes. If you can spare a partition, nothing is to stop you from testing it out, and it would be appreciated. /topic to see where and how to install. Im about to remove a sarge install, to install the breezy, it has a boot splash screen.05:31
dabaRstraight paste.05:31
deFryskP8ntKid, try if you have gnome-screenshot available05:31
jaramillowell, then you need to mount as: /05:31
hybrid_gothThunder00: lol you are being vague05:31
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ancienthy05:31
dabaRYou should not install over hoary, probably, I mean, just get another partition/hard drive...05:31
VixusJowi: And in console I get a GStreamer warning*** Changed state from NULL to PAUSED05:32
hybrid_gothThunder00: i assume you mean is not likely to break the whole system and bugs are not major05:32
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hybrid_gothThunder00: colony 3 should be "stable"05:32
ancienthow can i install ?05:32
ancient:)05:32
JowiVixus: ok, let's try something. gnome -> system -> prefs-> multimedia something -> default output and input sink = alsa05:32
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Thunder00i'm gonna test colony 3 for my laptop . any advice ?05:33
VixusJowi: It says ESD... should I change it to ALSA?05:33
Vixusah05:33
JowiVixus: we killed esd with "killall esd" so yes05:33
Whistleranybody has a siemens e-110 router?05:33
Vixusmaybe it will work now05:33
ancienttoo hard for me ,i'am out :))05:34
VixusJowi: Default Source = OSS05:34
phil197does anyone have an ap400 compaq workstation?05:34
dabaRancient: install what?05:34
JowiVixus: oss should work, if not try alsa.05:34
ancientanything05:34
dabaRWhat would you like to install? a program?05:34
ancienti'ts for the first time when i use linux05:34
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hybrid_gothancient: open synaptic05:35
dabaRhybrid_goth: you are talking nonsense, did you even read their release notes?05:35
ancienta program05:35
deFryskVixus, if you have a not used onboard sound ,using an other soundcard make sure you have your sound disabled in your bios (just in case )05:35
dabaRancient: cool, check out the message ubotu is gonna send you.05:35
hybrid_gothdabaR: i was gettin there05:35
VixusJowi: gnome-sound-recorder doesnt give error, but recording is blank.05:35
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ancientok05:35
ancientok05:35
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dabaRcheck out his web site it shows it.05:35
Whistlercan anybody please help me with port forwarding for bittorent?05:36
JowideFrysk: strange thing: he get sound from the speakers when using the mic but it does not get recorded05:36
dabaRhybrid_goth: a development version is not stable.05:36
benkong2how can I enable mod_rewrite in apache2 on ubuntu?05:36
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deFryskJowi, I see05:36
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hybrid_gothdabaR: hence the ""s05:36
deFryskJowi, dont know much about recording05:36
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dabaRit is testing, a colony release is testing, kinda, I think.05:36
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hybrid_gothif he wants breezy then he should know it isnt a hoary05:36
uthinierm guys05:37
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uthini!mesa05:37
ubotuuthini: I give up, what is it?05:37
VixusJowi: Nope, still not working.05:37
hybrid_gothcolony is like a release canadite05:37
hybrid_gothiirc05:37
JowideFrysk: for me it just works. but i had to disable esd. for some reason that does not do the trick for Vixus05:37
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VixusJowi: I'll just use windows for recording then.05:37
uthinihow do i re enable mesagl?05:37
uthini!mesagl05:37
ubotuuthini: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:37
siucdudejaramillo sorry my loptop rebooted anyways its installing05:37
tombshi ppl05:37
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JowiVixus: sorry i could not work it out for you atm05:37
VixusJowi: Np, thanks for the help anyway.05:37
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Jowi!recording05:37
ubotuJowi: What?05:37
Jowi!record05:37
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Jowi05:37
hybrid_gothlol05:38
siucdudereson is that ubuntu has a stop install if it detects old version it does not like to install over junk05:38
Trackilizerhow do i update to the new Ubuntu verson without installing the whole system again?05:38
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dabaR!msg the bot05:38
EasterSunshine!upgrade2breezy05:38
ubotuwell, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please.05:38
ubotuupgrade2breezy is, like, totally, sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:38
hybrid_gothTrackilizer: update the /etc/apt/sources.list05:38
hybrid_gothok nvm05:39
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Trackilizerwell, i dont know what to put in there05:39
JowiWhistler: you still need to be more precise. what do you mean when you say that you want to forward bittorrent ports!?05:39
Vixusubotu is awesome05:39
ubotuVixus: Do they come in packets of five?05:39
dabaRTrackilizer: you will come into a lot of trouble.05:39
Trackilizerwhy?05:39
Vixusyse05:39
jaramillo:o05:39
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dabaRor an equivalent in english.05:39
EasterSunshinebreezy is unstable05:39
VixusBye all.05:39
dabaRcause it is a development version, not stable.05:39
WhistlerJowi http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1553 look here05:39
Whistlermaybe you will understand05:39
Trackilizerso, i should just stick to the version i have now?05:40
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siucdudejaramillo i guess i will see what happanes once it finishes the install05:40
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EasterSunshineTrackilizer: breezy is currently for testing05:40
hybrid_gothcan i write to an hfs+ partition from ubuntu?05:40
dabaRTrackilizer: ya. if you wanna test out breezy, download the installer, and install it to another partition, or download the live CD and check that out.05:40
dabaRcan you all stop giving misinformation?05:40
hybrid_gothchroot it05:40
siucdudei actually might have question regarding the xorg after that you mind05:40
dabaRall: /topic05:40
WhistlerJowi i am using hardware modem+router05:40
jaramillo;o05:41
Whistleri want to forward 6881 port to my pc05:41
jaramillok05:41
Trackilizeri se05:41
Trackilizersee*05:41
hakatiany ubuntu experts like to team up with an extremely talented designer (me) in starting some multipurpose webshops to earn $$$?05:41
Trackilizerwell thanks again05:41
dabaRand then read the colony 3 URL.05:41
Trackilizersee ya05:41
hybrid_gothwatch out dabaR didnt take his hormones05:41
rasputnikWhistler: use ssh?05:41
Whistlerrasputnik i can use it05:41
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Whistlerbut i dont know05:41
Whistlerhow05:41
jaramillobbl05:42
jaramillo<305:42
dabaRhybrid_goth: ya, everyone is gonna love you when they break their nice system with breezy, have only one partition, and dont know what to do in command line...05:42
rasputnikWhistler: ssh -L 6881:your.pc.domain:6881 user@yourpc05:42
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rasputnikWhistler: the above forwards local port 6881 to 6881 on your.pc.domain05:43
hybrid_gothdabaR: one person asked and he asked about major bugs05:43
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hybrid_gothits not like X is broken05:43
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JowiWhistler: let me get this straight. you have set up the router to capture outgoing port 6881 and redirect it to the same pc port 6889? why on earth do you want to do that? and why is "local port" 0?05:43
WhistlerJowi nope i want to open all ports between 6881 to 6889 to my local ports05:43
dabaRand you all like gave them upgrade instructions...anyhow, I dont care, hybrid_goth, do you run breezy?05:44
anoopMy FIREFOX is not downloadin anythin!!!!!!!!!!05:44
rasputnikWhistler: do you want to port forward? or do you want to open a firewall05:44
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hakatiyou all mf rich or something05:44
hybrid_gothdabaR: actually yes05:44
Whistlerrasputnik port forward05:44
anoopit just says DONE05:44
hybrid_gothalong side OSX05:44
hybrid_gothhence the hfs+ question05:44
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JowiWhistler: ahhh, oki. but that doesn't answer my question though. why are you forwarding a port back to yourself?05:45
dabaRhybrid_goth: and, you dont have any trouble at all?05:46
WhistlerJowi i want to forward port to my pc from router05:46
hybrid_gothdabaR: nope its called CLI05:46
hybrid_gothit elimenates all yuour probles05:46
hybrid_goth**problems05:46
WhistlerJowi i use hardware router to share internet for 2pcs05:46
rasputnikhybrid_goth: hard to use gimp though.05:46
dabaRhybrid_goth: its called CLI...youre such a cool person...05:46
Whistlerso i want to be able to use bittorent ant normal speeds05:47
dabaRheh05:47
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dabaRanyhow, good luck, I am gonna install a breezy too, but not over my hoary.05:47
rasputnikhybrid_goth: did you google for 'hfs+ linux'? first hit looks good05:47
Whistlerthat means i have to forward port to my pc05:47
dabaRlater.05:47
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JowiWhistler: your router is set up like this now: your pc (1.11) is sending out packets on ports 6881-6889. when these are detected it gets sent back to the same pc (1.11) on the same port. it does not make sence i'm afraid05:47
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WhistlerJowi so can you  help me to make it work05:48
Whistlerlike it should?05:48
dawkirstHello.05:48
JowiWhat is the ip addresses of your computers?05:48
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Whistler192.168.1.11 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.2605:48
Whistler3pcs05:48
dawkirstI just downloaded Skype in a .deb file. How do I go about installing it?05:48
hybrid_gothrasputnik: ok ty and if i need photo/video/audio editing i use osx05:48
deliredawkirst: dpkg -i file.deb05:48
Whistlerdawkirst dpkg -i name.deb05:49
Whistlerah05:49
JowiWhistler: from which ip to which ip do you want to redirect traffic?05:49
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Whistlergrr..05:49
WhistlerJowi i want to be able to use bittorent on all pcs05:50
deliredawkirst: i suppose you can also open it up in a package manager like synaptic/kpackage also.05:50
bur[n] erWhistler: u can... change the port that azureus uses... and map ports accordingly :)05:50
JowiWhistler: you need to understand. your router blocks NO traffic between your local computers. all traffic is open.05:50
Xappeah, nice. 800 K from cdimage.ubuntu.com05:50
WhistlerJowi i know05:50
Whistleri want to be able to send data05:50
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delirehybrid_goth: audacity, or ardour are good for audio editing. for image editing i prefer gimp2.2 these days.05:51
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WhistlerJowi for example like in this tutorial http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Siemens/E-010-I/Azureus.htm05:51
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dawkirstdelire: well I have a problem. Where can I get an amd64 architecture equivalent to a i386 one?05:51
Almindoris there any .deb editor which can change .deb dependencies etc ?05:51
JowiWhistler: your router does not block outgoing traffic - only incoming as default. so you need to fill in "local port".05:51
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bur[n] eranyone know how to get rhythmbox --toggle-hide to focus the player on unhiding??05:51
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Whistlerk05:51
hybrid_gothdelire: what about video?05:51
JowiWhistler: hang on, i check that link05:52
deliredawkirst: hmm let's hope there is a skype for amd6405:52
Whistlerk05:52
EasterSunshinehde thru hdh are sata?05:52
delirehybrid_goth: i use a modular programming environment for that called 'Pure Data'. many like Cinelerra and for DV capture i find Kino excellent.05:53
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hybrid_gothdelire: ok i will check it out05:53
hybrid_gothdelire: i am orking on a systm-like video howto and thats what i have been editiing05:54
delirehybrid_goth: short of getting into $30,000 software packages for Linux (hollywood uses alot of linux for video editing) it is a little grim.05:54
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delirehybrid_goth: right..05:54
hybrid_gothdelire: they do?05:54
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hybrid_gothdelire: systm is a downloadable video howto show http://systm.org05:54
delirehybrid_goth: hell yeah. linux gave us gollum, shrek, sin city, titanic etc etc05:54
hybrid_goth0_005:54
hybrid_gothsweet05:54
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delirehybrid_goth: sure, will check it out.05:55
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sproingielinux rendered ... not sure that the front-ends ran on it05:55
WhistlerJowi do you got it what do i want?05:55
sproingieor has alias ported maya to linux?05:55
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JowiWhistler: according to your router manual that should do it.05:56
deliresproingie: yes, they did. i used Maya on Linux for several years.05:56
deliresproingie: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdpcm/is_200305/ai_ziff4107205:56
JowiWhistler: that opens the port for that single computer only05:56
deliresproingie: Maya on Linux is the standard for 3D animation in hollywood, disney etc05:56
WhistlerJowi i see05:56
deliresproingie: but yes, also responsible for rendering etc: http://www.digitmag.co.uk/features/index.cfm?FeatureID=116205:57
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sproingiedelire: mmm, nice.  looks like linux is sewing up another market.  first EDA, now 3d video production05:57
WhistlerJowi i get Total Number of Inbound Packets w/ This Rule:  6 Total Number of Outbound Packets w/ This Rule:  005:57
Whistlersomething is wrong05:57
Whistler=[05:58
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sproingiewonder what the next professional market will be that linux takes over05:58
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JowiWhistler: if you have local firewalls: turn them off. if that does not help you need to contact siemens for support. might be a bug in the firmware and they might have upgrades.05:58
hybrid_gothsproingie: videogames05:58
hybrid_gothsproingie: the psp OS is built ontop of netBSD05:59
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WhistlerJowi i do not have firewall on my pc05:59
hybrid_gothiirc05:59
delirehybrid_goth: perhaps05:59
earl_ok so yesterday I installed ATI drivers and I'm pretty sure it has caused a few problems, can someone give me a hand?05:59
sproingiehybrid_goth: well, embedded, sure ... i don't know though, the toolchain is FAR less mature05:59
hybrid_gothdelire: it is aan exciting oppurtuinity05:59
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hybrid_gothsproingie: idk why they chose netbsd i guess the BSD liscence06:00
JowiWhistler: so either there is a misprint in your manual or a bug in your router.06:00
sproingiehybrid_goth: naw, because it has a lovely rock solid ARM port. PSP's don't really need much else from an OS06:00
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WhistlerJowi may be.But it seems to be a rare model so i cant get any help. =[06:00
hybrid_gothsproingie: ah i see06:01
earl_ever since I installed my drivers, I cannot change the screen resolution (i get an error message when i try to open the dialog) and I cannot use totem movie player (i'm pretty sure these are both related to the same problem.)06:01
delirehybrid_goth: agreed06:01
sproingiemmkay, gotta mosey off06:01
hybrid_goththat makes me wonder what the DS runs06:01
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delirehybrid_goth sproingie here's a little on the proprietary movie editing software running on Linux: http://cgw.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=Articles&Subsection=Display&ARTICLE_ID=11866406:01
JowiWhistler: ouch. look for firmware updates anyway. that can solve helluva lot of problems (speaking from experience with a whole range of d-link routers)06:01
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kameronwhen i install grub on the MBR, and after rebooting from the installation, am i supposed to be dropped in that bash-like grub shell.. pressing tab gives you a bunch of commands, etc. i've only had it happen once where after installing, i get a list of OS's to boot from.. i've tried installing both ubuntu 5.04 for x86, and for amd64, and kubuntu for both aswell. once the ubuntu for 86 worked, but for some odd reason, never again. exact 06:02
WhistlerJowi can you try to scan my 6881 port?06:02
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JowiWhistler: yep, /msg me your public ip06:03
EasterSunshineJowi: host his host06:03
siucdudeok everyone what is the deal with xorg06:03
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EasterSunshineJowi: you know what i mean...06:03
kamerondoes anyone know how to use the grub bash-like shell to do anything useful.. like booting?06:04
netstarsiucdude, what do you mean?06:04
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netstarthere are many deals to xorg.06:04
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earl_ok so yesterday I installed ATI drivers and I'm pretty sure it has caused a few problems, can someone give me a hand?06:04
kameronis there another ubuntu channel where i can ask questions?06:05
kameronon a diff network?06:06
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siucdudei use breezy and my xorg works worked with *.-43 but i upgraded to the new -50 and now it won't load06:06
siucdudei keep getting errors06:07
kameronuseless support channel, bye.06:07
ben_60657can someone point me to a help channel for general hardware issues...06:07
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jaybobHello, Everyone.  I'm new to Ubuntu and Linux.  I just freshly installed Ubuntu and would like some help installing the "nvidia-glx" drivers.  I'm hoping that by installing them I will have some 3D acceleration because currently there seems to be none.  The 3D screensavers are a slideshow.  Will somebody guide me though the process?06:07
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EasterSunshineben_60657: try #ubuntu06:08
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ben_60657ok06:08
ben_60657hello...i recently bought a dvd burner and it was shipped without any connecting cables, driver cd, or documentation...someone told me this is standard when buying computer parts (which i don't do)...is this true? where do i get the cables, drivers, docs?06:08
EasterSunshineoh...that kind of hardware issue06:08
ben_60657uh huh06:09
paulproteusben_60657: All you need is an IDE cable.06:09
paulproteusIf you'd like, you can attach it to the IDE cable connecting your hard drive to your motherboard.06:09
ben_60657why didn't it ship with the dvd drive?06:09
EasterSunshineben_60657: you have purcahsed a refurbished product, i beleive06:09
paulproteusIt's not strictly necessary.06:09
ben_60657no, it's supposedly new06:09
paulproteusEasterSunshine: Or just an "OEM" product.06:09
EasterSunshineben_60657: you can probably find drivers and manual online, as for the cables, they are not specific to your burner so you can probably find them withinin your chassis06:10
paulproteusben_60657: These are "OEM" == "Original Equipment Manufacturer" parts, usually, that don't come with cables.  For big systems assemblers, to get an IDE cable with everything they buy would be a waste.06:10
netstarThough it's likely that the drivers will be included with the Linux kernel.06:11
paulproteusEasterSunshine: DVD burner?  No drivers needed in GNU/Linux, at least.06:11
netstarSo just plug it in06:11
paulproteusIt'll work fine with k3b or other programs.06:11
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deFryskset it to slave if attached to harddrive cable06:11
EasterSunshinepaulproteus: i know, but some burners include like nero and all this trash on a cd06:11
ben_60657ok...i'll just use what's in the chassis06:11
EasterSunshinepaulproteus: and some insist on including drivers even though they are not needed06:11
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EasterSunshineben_60657: its that rectangular box that your motherboard and hard drives are in06:11
netstar"If it fits push it in"06:11
deFryskand if it does not ?06:11
EasterSunshineben_60657: sry. misread your question as what's the chassis06:11
netstar"if it moves pump it"06:11
deFrysk:D06:12
delirejaybob: i use ATI here with 3D accelleration. i'm sure there'll be someone in here using Nvidia-glx however.06:12
jaybobDoes anyone know how to get 3D Hardware acceleration working?06:12
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jaybobYeah, I hope.06:12
kirk__Anybody know how to get libdvdcss2 installed?06:12
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netstarjaybob, I hacked mine together yesterday06:13
paulproteus!dvd06:13
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras06:13
paulproteus!hoary-extras06:13
uboturumour has it, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:13
kirk__thank you06:13
delirejaybob: 'apt-get install nvidia-glx' should be a good start. then alter /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'nvidia' instead of 'vesa' or 'nv' which you likely have already. then 'modprobe nvidia' and restart X. i'm guessing here..06:13
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redguy!tell jaybob about nvidia06:14
delireredguy: cheers ;)06:14
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dennis__Hello06:15
redguy:] 06:15
dennis__Can anyone here help me setup a network between my 2 ubuntu boxes?06:15
dennis__For filesharing06:15
jaybobRestarting X is where I run into problems.  I really have no clue what X is for sure, but when I ctrl-alt-bkspace the screen goes black.  Then I ctrl-alt-f1 and I get a prompt.  I type startx and I recieve an error...06:15
delirejaybob: what error?06:15
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dennis__I read the guide but I'm still a little confused06:16
jaybobI don't remember specifically.  It seemed to be telling me X was already running or something?...06:16
SolidRavenuh, can anybody help me with ndiswrapper?06:16
delirejaybob: X is the graphics server to which client applications using windows/GUI's etc connect to give you your 'desktop'.06:16
earl_Can someone give me a hand with fixing some problems that happened after i installed graphics drivers?06:16
delirejaybob: is the computer in this state now?06:16
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redguyjaybob: ctr-alt-backspace should kill X. It should restart with a nvidia logo afrer being killed.06:17
delirejaybob: you will need to log out completely. the best bet is a reboot.06:17
jaybobNo, I just finished re-installing Ubuntu so I could give it a clean try.06:17
deFryskreboot ?06:17
deFryskwhy ?06:17
delirejaybob: redguy is right, you should see a logo.06:17
dennis__delire...do you think you could help me setup filesharing between my 2 boxes? I read the guide but am still a bit confsed...06:17
deFryskugly nvidia logo06:17
chrissturmi am using public key auth over ssh, what do i need to do that i have to enter my passphrase just once per session?06:17
jaybobYeah, I didnt see any logo.06:17
deliredeFrysk: sometimes the login manager maintains the X session..06:18
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tristanmikeI like the nvidia logo :)06:18
paulproteuschrissturm: On a console, do: ssh-add06:18
deliredeFrysk: but it may not be the base these days with gnome.06:18
paulproteusOr, Alt-F206:18
paulproteusssh-add06:18
dennis__Anyone :(?06:18
deFryskdelire, ctrl alt backspc does the trick fine in ubuntu06:18
chrissturmpaulproteus, thx!06:18
paulproteuschrissturm: No prob.06:19
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deliredennis__: all my 'filesharing' is using network mounts, rsync and scp (ssh). if you mean samba, there'll be others that can help you better here.06:19
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deliredeFrysk: great, not always the case in gnome/kde.06:19
dennis__Yeah06:19
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dennis__I just installed samba on both of the machines06:20
dennis__But I don't know what to do next06:20
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carajeanhow to cd to a file that has spaces in the name?06:20
dennis__Use the tab feature06:20
dennis__Type part of the folder name and hit tab06:20
deFryskjaybob, you read the wiki about nvidia install and configuration ?06:20
dennis__It will complete it for you06:20
dennis__Can anyone here help me with samba?06:21
deliredennis__: from memory nautilus supports samba. i don't use the filebrowser nautilus here. ask someone else on that. you may be able to smb://host06:21
jaybobHere is what I did yesterday:  I edited the repository so I could download the nvidia-glx driver.  I then used synaptic to install the driver.  I then opened the terminal and typed "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".  I then logged out and used ctrl-alt-backspace.  The screen goes black.  I can still here sound.  I pressed ctrl-alt-f1 and I get a prompt.  I typed startx and nothing really happens.  When I reboot, the computer boots to06:21
trshi... i have installed kubuntu 5.02 is it possible to read/write from/to a ntfs partition06:21
dennis__Wtf06:21
dennis__:o06:21
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darkhearttrs You can read, but you can't write.06:21
deliretrs: you can't write to one without the captive-ntfs driver.06:21
deFryskjaybob, how old is your nvidia-card ?06:21
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deliretrs: and it's dangerous.. this is M$'s doing.06:21
deFryskjaybob, is it an old tnt card ?06:22
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trsdelire, so i have to use a fat32 partition?06:22
tristanmikecarajean, use quotes..""06:22
deliretrs: it's much better yes06:22
trsokay06:22
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jaybobno, its a geforce6800GT.  in a a64 3500+ system with a gig of ram06:22
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no_dammagEwhat package does provide glade--?06:23
deFryskjaybob, and did the xorgconfig recognize your monitor ?06:23
deliredennis__: i know many friends that use a web based samba administration tool called smb2www, or smb4k on kde.06:24
jaybobdeFrysk:  I'm sorry, but I'm a complete noob to linux and I honestly don't know what that means or how to check that... :0(06:24
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carajeanok that tab thing doesnt seem to work06:24
delireno_dammagE: apt-cache search glade. you'll see a libglade* in there06:24
dennis__Delire well maybe you can suggest something06:24
dennis__I have a server06:24
deFryskcat /et/X11/xorg.conf and pastte it in pastebin and send the url jaybob06:24
dennis__That I need to have access to /var/www/06:24
SolidRavenuh is somebody willing to help me with setting up ndiswrapper?06:25
P8ntKidhmmm, for some reason i cant get .mov files to play, they load in firefox with mplayer, and get to 100% but they dont play.06:25
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dennis__Write and such06:25
SolidRavenmodprobe ndiswrapper returns an error06:25
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deliredennis__: give me a moment..06:25
no_dammagEyes, i installed all libglades, but those don't provide glade--06:25
deFryskjaybob, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf sorry06:25
carajeancan u cd and point sort of like click on a file and cd to it in terminal06:25
dennis__k06:25
carajean?06:25
no_dammagEi checked packages.debian.org - there is an extra glademm package06:25
jaybobdeFrysk:  I'm not on the Ubuntu machine right now...hold on06:26
delireno_dammagE: are you compiling software?06:26
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bernardosHello. How to install some .deb packets which are on a usb key ? they don't appear in synaptic. if anyone could point me to some guide...thx :)06:26
P8ntKidhmmm, for some reason i cant get .mov files to play, they load in firefox with mplayer, and get to 100% but they dont play.06:26
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no_dammagEdelire, yes, else i wouldnt ask for glademm :)06:26
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delireno_dammagE: make sure you install the -dev packges. these contain the headers (*.h files).06:26
carajeancan anyone just help me real quick to cd to a file with spaces in it06:26
carajean?06:26
no_dammagEdelire, of course I did ;) well, I got now glademm from packages.debian.org06:26
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no_dammagEcd "my dir"06:27
Whistler use 06:27
no_dammagEor use the <TAB>06:27
P8ntKidhmmm, for some reason i cant get .mov files to play, they load in firefox with mplayer, and get to 100% but they dont play.06:27
luzbelitohi to all, i need help in open office. i try to paste text, but text processor pastes ir like an object and i must select "paste special-> unformatted text" to see it like i want. how can i solve it???06:27
deFryskcarajean, use \ in a space06:27
muffin_whats the shell command for changing a dir with " " in it???06:27
keikozcarajean or pyut \ before the space06:27
carajeantab doesnt work it says the file doesnt exist even though it does06:27
deFryskcarajean, or hit tab twice06:27
delireno_dammagE: when you see error output about missing libs, the missing libs are useally headers. so 'dpkg -l | grep libglade2-dev' produces a result?06:27
earl_Can someone give me a hand with fixing some problems that happened after i installed graphics drivers?06:27
delireno_dammagE: and "ii" result?06:28
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no_dammagEluzbelito, try to mark your text and use the middle mouse button06:28
Whistlercarajean so write cd my cool dir06:28
ibthomsonhey guys, I get this (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1556) output when compiling cedega cvs in 32-bit chroot.. any idea how to fix/work around it?06:28
P8ntKidhmmm, for some reason i cant get .mov files to play, they load in firefox with mplayer, and get to 100% but they dont play.06:28
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jaybob2Hello, This is jaybob on his ubuntu machine :0)06:28
delire;)06:28
deFryskhehe06:28
SolidRaveni would be happy if i got ndiswrapper to work ....06:28
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luzbelitono_dammagE, YES!!! thanks... can i modify it ????06:28
muffin_help: i can't cd with dir with " " (SPACE) in em06:28
no_dammagEdelire, I know that I need all dev packages so software can be compiled - im developing software :) the problem was that i didnt find a glademm package in any of standard ubuntu repos (+ multivers and universe)06:28
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deFryskjaybob, and I have to go , just pase what i said in pastebin and ask someone whats wrong , back later!06:29
no_dammagEluzbelito, huh? what do you mean by modifying it?06:29
P8ntKidhmmm, for some reason i cant get .mov files to play, they load in firefox with mplayer, and get to 100% but they dont play.06:29
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delireno_dammagE: well i use debian here and develop with glademm also. the package names may be different albeit.06:29
jaybob2Ok thanks for helpin06:29
no_dammagEdelire, doesnt matter, I got it from the debian repos manually, thanks for the hints :)06:29
jaybob2Ok so I just typed "cat /etc/x11/xorg.conf" in the terminal and this is what was returned "cat: /etc/x11/xorg.conf:  No such file or directory"06:30
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delireno_dammagE np06:30
luzbelitono_dammagE, i mean if can i change first button does function of middle button06:31
P8ntKidhmmm, for some reason i cant get .mov files to play, they load in firefox with mplayer, and get to 100% but they dont play.06:31
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deliredennis__: 'sudo apt-get install swat' let's use this.06:31
carajeantab doesnt work anymore for some reason06:31
dennis__Delire06:32
no_dammagEluzbelito, unfortunately I don't know if you can modify that, you might want to ask some experts here06:32
dennis__#flood real quick06:32
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ibthomsonhey guys, I get this (http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1556) output when compiling cedega cvs in 32-bit chroot.. any idea how to fix/work around it?06:32
dennis__ibthomson, #cedega06:33
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hadi57any body can help me install skype and opera on ubuntu?06:33
ibthomsondennis__, thanks06:33
ilredshi to all06:33
luzbelitono_dammagE, thanks for your help06:33
Xenguyhadi57: FWIW, neither of those are 'free as in freedom'06:33
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ilredsanybody use breezy?06:33
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Tadejhi06:34
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hadi57skype is free06:34
Tadejhow do I check what version of ubuntu is instaled?06:34
no_dammagEluzbelito, np06:34
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no_dammagETadej, uname -a06:34
no_dammagETadej, ah, no, it shows you kernel version, sry06:34
Xenguyhadi57: free as in beer, but not as in freedom (AFAIK)06:34
hadi57so they cant be used?06:34
Tadej:)06:35
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Xenguyhadi57: you can use them, they just aren't 'free' in the full sense of the word06:35
Tadejany idea?06:35
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hadi57ok i got u06:36
hadi57thx06:36
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Xenguyhadi57: for future reference: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html06:36
Xenguyhadi57: I'll shut up now :-)06:36
carajeani think i willswitch back to linux the day i cant type in a simple file is a sad day06:36
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hadi57thanks again06:36
carajeani mean back to windows06:36
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Ummmmmhiya06:37
delirehehe06:37
dennis__delire, any idea whats up?06:37
Ummmmmhow do I determine what my kernel version is?06:37
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Xenguycarajean: use tab completion06:37
deliredennis__: i was in #flood and didn't see you post anything. use http://pastebin.com06:37
Angel-SLUmmmmm: uname -a06:37
XenguyUmmmmm: uname -a06:37
carajeandont work i cant cd straight to the file06:37
Angel-SL...06:37
carajeanplus i dont even know what that means06:37
Ummmmmangel-sl / xenguy: thanks!!06:38
Xenguycarajean: hrm, not sure what you mean; you can create 'aliases' that are like a shortcut to a file or directory if you want06:38
redguyuname -r actually :-)06:38
dennis__delire, http://pastebin.com/34412906:38
delirecarajean: if you can't use tab completion, and for some odd reason quotes don't work, use '\' to escape the spaces like so 'this\ is\ my\ ridiculous\ file\ name.file'06:38
deliredennis__: ok06:39
Ummmmmthat\ sucks.file06:39
Xenguycarajean: that works great on the command-line, or if you want a GUI a file manager should be able to create some 'bookmarks' for you06:39
carajeani will try it hold on just a sec06:39
deliredennis__: have you got something 'non ubuntu' in your /etc/apt/sources.list?06:39
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dennis__No[e06:40
dennis__Nope*06:40
Xenguycarajean: (depending on the file manager I suppose)06:40
asfracan anybody tell me what the latest column in /etc/fstab is? is it the same as fsck?06:40
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deliredennis__: prove it by pasting your sources.list ;)06:40
dennis__:P06:40
carajeanooohh ok i got it u need to put spaces after the \ things06:40
asfrathat is the <pass> column06:41
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dennis__delire http://pastebin.com/34413206:41
asfra!fstab06:41
ubotuasfra: I don't know06:41
deliredennis__: the integrity of this file is important. a wrong line can be like asking win95 to install windows XP software.06:41
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delirepor ejemplo06:42
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ezsquirtis there an entry to blank a cdrw in nautilus ? or do i have to umount it and do the regular cdrecord blank=fast dev=/dev/cdrw06:42
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requiem_hello06:42
requiem_I have a problem06:42
requiem_My mouse double clicks when I click only once06:42
Stompey00is there a way to read a log of whats happening during connect to an isp? I have a external serial mdem that i pppconfig'd and it dials and starts the connection if I pon it. but when I poff it says there isnt a connection.  Does sbcglobal support linux? Their support people didn't seem to know06:42
requiem_do anybody has some problem like this ?06:42
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deliredennis__: well you're right. it may be the backports however.06:43
dennis__?06:43
redguydelire, dennis__: backports might be the problem06:43
deliredennis__: apt-get update and then try installing swat (the web based samba manager)06:43
dennis__what about them?06:43
requiem_Stompey00, /var/log ?06:43
deliredennis__: they cause problems. take the backports lines out and then apt-get update. it will work.06:43
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dennis__k06:43
Stompey00k06:44
asfracan anybody tell me what the latest column in /etc/fstab is? is it the same as fsck? it is called <pass>06:44
ompaulrequiem_, never heard of it before, what kind of mouse and what is the situation with 'right' clicks06:44
requiem_I have one little doubt06:44
requiem_when I click once it opens a window, is that the ubuntu default ?06:44
delireasfra: it means if there is a problem whether to fsck it more than once.06:45
dennis__Delire06:45
dennis__I got the same error06:45
deliredennis__: did you remove those backports lines and apt-get update?06:45
ompaulrequiem_, usually if I choose a terminal one click and it works06:45
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dennis__Yes06:45
deliredennis__: eek.06:45
redguyasfra: man fstab06:45
asfradelire: thanks06:46
requiem_ompaul, but if it isn't selected06:46
dennis__http://pastebin.com/34413706:46
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requiem_you click and a window just opens06:46
asfraredguy: thanks for the tip :)06:46
ompaulrequiem_, yes06:46
jaybobOk, so with a fresh install of ubuntu I installed the nvidia-glx driver.  I then typed "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable".  finally I typed "sudo reboot".  the computer rebooted to a blank screen and the monitor say "no signal".  I can hear the OS sounds, im just getting no visual....any help...?06:46
requiem_ompaul, is there anyway to change that behavior ?06:46
dennis__delire...did you see that?06:46
dennis__http://pastebin.com/34413706:46
delireasfra: your root file system (the one you are running) should have '1' in the pass column06:46
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ompaulrequiem_, you would have to check out gnome documentation for that I don't know, but it is easy once you get used to it06:47
zaudragonhello06:47
requiem_ompaul, I don't want to get use to it06:47
requiem_I can't06:47
zaudragonwhat files on the HD do the LiveCDs touch?06:47
deliredennis__: you're absolutel right. you've hit a problem here.06:47
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asfradelire: yeah, it does. I was just entering another row and started wondering what things mean...06:48
ompaulrequiem_, I know it is easy I gave up double using double click environments 10 years ago06:48
ompaulrequiem_, it is possible but you are on your own there06:48
redguyjaybob: ctrl-alt-f1, login as your usual user and sudo less /var/log/Xorg.0.log says. Look for lines beginning with EE (which denote errors)06:48
deliredennis__: what does 'apt-get install samba' give you? we need to find out why samba doesn't want to be installed. by the way, i thought you already had samba onboard? can you give me the link to the HOWTO you followed?06:48
dennis__Just the one from the ubuntuguide.org06:49
carajeanerr:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL   whats this mean?06:49
dennis__The following packages have unmet dependencies:06:49
dennis__  samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed06:49
dennis__E: Broken packages06:49
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robotgeekzaudragon: hi, can u repeat?06:50
ompaulzaudragon, none unless you want them to06:50
dennis__Delire06:50
dennis__Samba won't install06:50
dennis__Broken Packages06:50
redguydennis__: there's still something messed up with your sources file.06:50
XenguyStompey00: /var/log/messages (likely)06:50
zaudragonompaul: weird, Mac OS X now Kernel Panics because Kubuntu crashed on me once06:50
deliredennis__: i see this. very odd. something's awry in your sources.list (as redguy also notes).06:50
dennis__Want me to post it again?06:50
zaudragonI have since switched to Ubuntu though)06:50
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robotgeekzaudragon: best bet, repair using the Tiger/Panther CD if u need OS X back06:51
carajeanhow to get a dll and make it work i need some sort of library???06:51
deliredennis__: i am not on Ubuntu here so i cannot compare with your sources.list06:51
zaudragonrobotgeek: what should I do with it?06:51
zaudragonI have to reinstall i? :(06:51
dennis__Redguy can you?06:51
dennis__http://pastebin.com/34414306:51
delirecarajean: 'wine' often does the trick. it's a wrapper/abstraction layer for windows libraries06:51
dennis__There is my sources.list06:51
EasterSunshinecan someone give me a quick sed command to convert windows end-of-lines to unix eols?06:51
redguydennis__: will try06:52
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twibblercould anybody tell me if you can install IE under wine please, and if so a gide to how ...06:52
robotgeekzaudragon: pop it in, and just use the disk utility or whatever to fix the OS X partition (repair) option06:52
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robotgeekzaudragon: don't reinstall!06:52
XenguyEasterSunshine: try 'flip'06:52
zaudragonrobotgeek: I shall06:52
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redguydennis__: what do yoy want to install swat and samba in the first point? do you want just to browse smb shares or do you want to share some files from your box as well?06:52
deliredennis__: what about getting rid of the cdrom line?06:52
EasterSunshineXenguy: thx; installing it now06:53
requiem_ompaul, do you have on your browser settings something like, activate on one click ?06:53
delireredguy: i suggested swat to him as he wanted a means of browsing shares of two computers and was most of the way through the samba howto.06:53
ompaultwibbler, I believe you can do such a thing, however you will have to ask uncle google for that guide if you are only depending on me for an answer06:53
mofbye06:53
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XenguyEasterSunshine: yw (vim editor can also do this, if you are a vimmer :-)06:53
EasterSunshinetwibbler: you can install it, no problem, but running it is a different story, see the wine wiki for info on running ie06:53
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EasterSunshineXenguy: the only thing i can do in vi is save and exit...06:54
ompaulrequiem_, no my operating system, my browser is configured like that06:54
twibblerthank you ..06:54
dennis__redguy and delire I am just trying to setup something so I can have write access to /var/www/ on a computer on my local network06:54
dennis__What would be the easiest way to do this?06:54
redguydennis__: you might try to comment out hoary updates as well in the sources list. then apt-get update and try installing swat06:54
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XenguyEasterSunshine: you're right tho, it can be done with sed (but 'flip' is easier to remember I think); google for a web page 'sed one-liners'06:55
ompaulrequiem_, let me restate that, initially I thought you were asking about the window manager I am using, it is set to one click, and firefox afaik is set to one click06:55
dennis__redguy?06:56
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deliredennis__: you want write access over a network to a system directory?06:56
dennis__Yeah06:56
ompaulrequiem_, I do not know of any settings to adjust this, however it is opensource if you really feel like changing it go ahead06:56
whyameyeanybody know anything about pptp? I need help vpn-ing into my network...06:56
requiem_ompaul, I was asking about the fact gnome activates everything on one click, and that doesn't seems really good06:56
deliredennis__: why not 'scp file you@remote-machine:/var/www/06:56
EasterSunshineXenguy: well the original problem was that cat was indenting everything after the first line...it seems flip -u'ing the files doesn't fix it...06:56
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requiem_ompaul, I use linux at home, but I'm not at home06:57
redguydennis__: ? hoary-updates is not in my sources.lis, and I have no dependecy problems with samba at all. try putting a # before deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted and the line below that as well06:57
ompaulrequiem_, you can highlight with a right click and fire from a meny then06:57
XenguyEasterSunshine: what are you trying to do though?06:57
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dennis__Delire, huh?06:57
requiem_ompaul, yes, but my problem is, what can I do to use a double click to activate all the items in my desktop06:57
EasterSunshineXenguy: cat a bunch of files together06:57
redguydennis__: if I understand correctly you want access *from* another box to /var/www on the box you are trying to install samba, right?06:57
ompaulrequiem_, you can highlight with a right click and fire from a menu if that is what you want - but it seems such a waste to require a user to click twice, is there some special reason you would ant that?06:58
dennis__no06:58
requiem_currently I am clicking once on the firefox log and it is opening twice06:58
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requiem_firefox icon06:58
dennis__I want acess to /var/www on my other box from this computer06:58
requiem_dennis__, ssh otherbox06:58
deliredennis__: do you want to copy files to a remote location?06:58
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godzirraHeya guys, I need help with wine06:59
dennis__whatever gets the job done06:59
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dennis__I need to transfer files because /www/ is the folder where apache grabs files06:59
godzirraI keep getting a message when  I run "wine <program>" saying this:  "Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file"06:59
requiem_ompaul, are you understanding my problem ?06:59
deliredennis__: use "secure copy": 'scp file you@remote-machine:/var/www/.'06:59
deliredennis__: for one off files it's fabulous.07:00
dennis__WEll07:00
dennis__that might be a pain07:00
dennis__Since I will be transfering lots of files07:00
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godzirraAnyone have any ideas?07:00
requiem_dennis__, scp -R you@other07:00
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twibblerdennis__: for lots of files which change and you only want to upate the changes you can use the rsync command .07:00
requiem_dennis__, scp -R you@other:/var/www localfile07:00
deliredennis__: yeah use recursive flag '-r'07:01
requiem_-r07:01
requiem_sorry07:01
dennis__hmm07:01
zaudragonrobotgeek: nope, repairing the disk didn't help07:01
dennis__There isn't a way to do this with naut?07:01
XenguyEasterSunshine: I see; not sure what to suggest to fix the 'indent' problem, other than manual cleanup with a (good) text editor07:01
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robotgeekzaudragon: the OS X partition was mounted when kubuntu crashed?07:01
zaudragonI dunno07:02
reiki_workif naut can see shares, couldn't he vnc into the remote and fire up naut and copy from the share on his local machine to the location on the remote?07:02
deliredennis__: but you are best off with samba support in nautilus. it makes it easy. in KDE it's a simple case of typing "smb://the-other-machine" in konqueror and then drag and drop.07:02
redguydennis__: you have GNOME right? try entering sftp://1.2.3.4/var/www in nautilus 1.2.3.4 being the IP of the other box07:02
EasterSunshineXenguy: crap...you are right...the indentation is within the files...not because of cat...07:02
robotgeekzaudragon: similiar thing happened to me, and i've stuck to ubuntu ever since!07:02
binbrainanybody know how to find out if your cd burner supports burnproof?07:02
XenguyEasterSunshine: hehe07:02
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dennis__yes I have gnome07:02
binbrainlike a cmd or file I can check07:02
zaudragonhaha, ok, but I still like Mac OS X better07:02
deliredennis__: redguy may just have what you're after.07:02
asfragodzirra: what is wine?07:02
ompaulrequiem_, yes but I do not know why you _need_ to do this, and I have said if you need this you maybe need to look at the source, I have no interest in what you are trying to do,07:02
redguydelire: there is fish:/ in konq and suposedly sftp: in inutilus does the same07:02
godzirraasfra: lets you run windows programs in emulation07:02
delirezaudragon: eeek, i can't wait to get away from it ;)07:02
EasterSunshinetime to hit mad sed07:03
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robotgeekzaudragon: it's evil i tell u, give in to the ubuntu goodness07:03
zaudragondelire: hehe07:03
delireredguy: yeah i see that konqueror also has scp:// !07:03
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asfragozirra: ok, works like a charm?07:03
EasterSunshineman sed*07:03
requiem_ompaul, I don't like clicking once, and firefox opening twice07:03
redguys/inutilus/nautilus07:03
yaniswhen the new version of ubuntu will be releasesd?07:03
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zaudragonrobotgeek: I rather have Mac OS X than not have Airport Extreme, sorry..07:03
EasterSunshine!release07:03
ubotuA new Ubuntu version is released every six months (in april and october). Each release is supported for at least 18 months with security updates.07:03
ompaulrequiem_, so click once07:03
godzirraasfra: well, seeing as how I'm trying to figure out why its not working, I'm gonna go with no.07:03
asfragozirra: lol07:04
requiem_ompaul, I am clicking once07:04
XenguyEasterSunshine: http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/unix/sed.html07:04
robotgeekzaudragon: ahh...i use a Ralink Belkin Adapter07:04
requiem_and firefox is opening twice07:04
asfragozirra: sorry :)07:04
zaudragonrobotgeek: I see07:04
zaudragonwell, time to try other things07:04
redguydelire: scp:// ? does it differ from fish:// ?07:04
robotgeekzaudragon: all the best with that07:04
asfragozirra: should it be possible to windows based games under wine?07:05
delireredguy: yes, though i think the difference is semantic.07:05
asfragozirra: should it be possible to run windows based games under wine?07:05
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delireasfra: WoW works perfectly here. many other games do. for supporting a huge list of win32 games on linux you may want to look into http://transgaming.com with HOWTO's/forums at http://linux-gamers.net07:06
Xenguyasfra: http://frankscorner.org/07:06
delireXenguy: good call07:07
asfrathank you both, I have been thinking about getting something like this...07:07
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godzirraasfra: Yup.  At least some.  I used to play starcraft under wine a lot.07:07
EasterSunshineasfra: winex (aka cedega) is for emulating directx windows games07:07
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NanoBCNhi people. I wanted to know if any of you could help me solving this: I'm getting problems when trying to burn data DVD07:08
NanoBCNit used to work07:08
NanoBCNbut now it doesnt07:08
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NanoBCNany of you into it?07:08
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reiki_worka default Ubutu install sets up PostFix? (I'm at work on a XP box... not home on my Ubuntu box)07:09
NoUseNanoBCN perhaps you should be more specific07:09
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NanoBCNNoUse, this error i'm getting is: WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=80h] : Input/output error07:10
mauricioholas07:10
NanoBCNwrite failed: Input/output error07:10
robotgeekreiki_work: i think you would need to configure it07:10
Xenguyreiki_work: can you not ssh into your home box?07:10
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reiki_workXenguy: I didn't set up to ssh into it. I was just on lunch here and googling things for later setup when I get home. I should set up ssh though07:11
Xenguyreiki_work: that would be the easiest way to check anyway07:11
srijithnothing related to Ubuntu, but can anyone suggest a relatively secure open source php forum software?07:11
Xenguyreiki_work: yeah, definitely07:11
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deliresrijith: wordpress07:11
reiki_workXenguy: when I get home would I ps aux |grep postfix to see if it's running? I seem to recall seeing it start at bootup07:11
deliresrijith: apt-get install wordpress07:11
robotgeeksrijith: phpbb2 is good i guess, wordpress is a blogging tool!07:12
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requiem_does cedega exists on ubuntu ?07:12
srijithwordpress != forum, wp == blog software07:12
srijiththanks robotgeek07:12
deliresrijith: fair enough.07:12
EasterSunshinewill cedega bother me about system requirements?07:12
Xenguyreiki_work: I'd have to reboot to check here at work; hopefully someone else can tell you07:12
robotgeeksrijith: np07:12
deliresrijith: phpbb is ok.07:13
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reiki_workXenguy: but ps aux |grep postfix should tell me if it's started right? Then I'd just go look for like... /etc/postfix/postfix.conf or some such?07:13
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srijithdelire, phpbb != secure :) thansk anyway07:13
EasterSunshinerequiem_: you can get it via cvs for free or pay for a stable, it is not in the repos because it is comemrcial software07:13
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deliresrijith: i haven't had any problems with phpbb2, but phpbb was a mess07:13
twibblerrobotgeek: can I say thank yu as well... wordpress looks good ...07:13
requiem_EasterSunshine, sure, how do I install ?07:13
requiem_apt-get ?07:14
izmaelisI have accidently deleted /etc/init.d/gdm. How can I bring it back to life again?07:14
Hoxzercan I somehow see is my USB port working propelly?07:14
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mirakhi07:14
mirakI have a clock problem with ubuntu07:14
mirakit's not synnchronised with the bios07:14
EasterSunshinerequiem_: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 <--wine cvs howto07:14
godzirraSo anyone know anything wine?07:14
robotgeekizmaelis: sudo aptitude purge gdm && sudo aptitude install gdm07:14
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Xenguyreiki_work: ordinarily that command works fine, but I just tried your command, but substituting 'exim' (which I know is running on my home box), and grep did not return anything...07:15
Hoxzerok, now guys07:15
adriyelhmm07:15
robotgeektwibbler: i have been using wordpress for abt 9 months now, well supported, and *easy*07:15
EasterSunshinegodzirra: what do you need to know07:15
Hoxzercan you guys tell how I can share USB port printer in samba?07:15
adriyelanyone here have problems with Ubuntu64?07:15
EasterSunshinegodzirra: also, note that #winehq exists07:15
reiki_workXenguy: ok thanks... I'll have to check out that part more closely when I get home07:15
adriyelor problems with Firefox crashing?07:15
Xenguyreiki_work: you could try instead -> dpkg -l postfix  <- to see if it is installed...07:15
izmaelisrobotgeek, thnx alot07:16
Hoxzer;/ fuck07:16
Xenguyreiki_work: if it is installed, then it should also be running07:16
delireXenguy: exim will only run when needed, eg when you recieve mail07:16
adriyelI'm using Ubuntu64, firefox keeps crashing, I have to keep killing the process, any ideas?07:16
reiki_workXenguy: ok... thanks. :)07:16
Hoxzerargh im pissed off... now07:16
EasterSunshineHoxzer: language...07:16
HoxzerI know07:16
adriyelI'll update it and see what happens07:16
Hoxzerbut I want to go to sleep07:16
Xenguydelire: so how would reiki_work check to see if postfix is definitely running?07:16
EasterSunshineHoxzer: i like how you included an accented a in aargh07:16
Hoxzercan't go cause can't share a printer07:16
Hoxzercant print my work07:16
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adriyelhmm07:17
requiem_well I've got the stable version07:17
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carajea1anyone know how to make a icon for my desktop that will luanch something even if it has to cd to the directory first?07:18
FunnyLookinHatAre there plans to have the next ubuntu release support IBM T43 display adapters?  Intel 900.07:18
emilioalguien conoce un canal sobre matlab07:18
ompaulEasterSunshine, these kind of things?     etc?07:18
delireXenguy: normally these daemons have 'status' options. i would look into that. i don't use postfix here however.07:18
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robotgeekcarajea1: give the full path to binary, like /usr/sbin/binary07:18
EasterSunshineompaul: i am the only person i nthe world who does not know how to import those without kchar...07:18
mirakhi07:19
ompaulEasterSunshine, lt Gr07:19
mirakhow to reset the time ?07:19
ompaulEasterSunshine, lt Gr + the character07:19
mirakthe time shift07:19
mirakof the clock07:19
carajea1uh oh robot geek im a newb and have no idea what u are talking about07:19
mirakI have time drifting it's weird07:19
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EasterSunshineompaul: where is my alt gr button? is that my meta?07:19
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ompaulEasterSunshine, u on a mac?07:19
robotgeekcarajea1: when creating the shortcut, just browse to the file you want to execute07:19
EasterSunshineompaul: no, but my keybaord is pretty damn old07:20
delireemilio: i don't know if there is a matlab channel, but if you feel me comfortable speaking in spanish i would /join #ubuntu-es07:20
carajea1oh ok07:20
delires/me/more07:20
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ompaulEasterSunshine, it is the alt key to the right of the space bar on this machine07:20
EasterSunshineompaul: i don't appear to have a Gr button, unless i mistunderstood you07:20
adriyelhey, can anyone help me?07:20
robotgeekcarajea1: not on ubuntu right now, so can't help right now07:20
carajea1but the execute has to be made opengl   example:  WoW.exe --opengl07:20
robotgeekdelire: matlab?07:20
carajea1oh ok07:20
ompaulEasterSunshine, called AltGr07:20
delirerobotgeek: emilio wrote in spanish above asking about a matlab channel.07:20
sean__wow this place never stops :)07:21
no_dammagE24/7, 365/1 :)07:21
sean__hahah :) is a good thing07:21
EasterSunshineompaul: holding onto alt and typing numbers changes the tab on my client...07:21
deliresean__: 523 users isn't bad (nearly as popular as #debian) ;)07:22
adriyelhey can anyone help me please??07:22
delireadriyel: just ask07:22
robotgeekdelire: oh okay, i was wondering what matlab is doing in here. also reminds me that i need to get back to work :)07:22
adriyelI have delire, a few times, I've been ignored07:22
sean__yeah, this is insane, i didnt think ubuntu was this popular, but damn now i know :)07:22
EasterSunshine#debian is a freakshow07:22
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delirerobotgeek: hehe, i should too.07:22
ompaulEasterSunshine, not alt but the second alt key :) alt+a does nothing altgr+a does 07:22
adriyelok, one last time07:22
delireadriyel: ask again.07:22
SolidRavenuh can somebody help me with ndiswrapper?07:22
SolidRavenplease07:22
robotgeekSolidRaven: have u read the wiki?07:22
SolidRavenyes07:22
EasterSunshineompaul: not for me...on koversation either alt+a sets me away07:23
SolidRavenbut when i do modprobe ndiswrapper it returns an error07:23
adriyelI've got the 64bit version of Ubuntu running on an AMD 3500, both the stock 1.02, and the updated 1.06 versions of Firefox keep crashing, after a few moments of use07:23
robotgeekis your card supported?07:23
delireSolidRaven: it's annoying isn't it. i can't help here (don't run it) but many have got it to work fine in ubuntu.07:23
SolidRavenuh yes07:23
adriyelwhats up? is it the 64bit kernel/libs fault, or firefox's? I've never had this problem before07:23
ompaulEasterSunshine, ahh now using xchat here on gnome, something to do with me liking ubuntu over kubuntu :)07:23
SolidRavenit even says the device is connected07:23
delireadriyel: strange, do you have any bookmarks etc you need to keep? we can try deleting the profile directory.07:23
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adriyelno bookmarks needed to keep07:23
adriyelwhere would the profile be kept?07:24
robotgeekSolidRaven: hmm...try compiling for ndiswrapper sources. i setup my friends card yesterday in abt 2 minutes :)07:24
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delireadriyel: can you 'ls -l ~/.firefox'07:24
SolidRavenrobotgeek > i can't hardwire the comp to the router here07:24
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delireadriyel: if there's nothing there try 'ls -l ~/.mozilla/firefox'07:24
adriyelsays it can't find it07:24
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adriyelfound it07:25
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adriyelprofiles.ini?07:25
delireadriyel: ok, 'rm -fr ~/.firefox'. be warned, themes and everything will be lost.07:25
adriyelnp07:25
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delireadriyel: now, did you install ff using the ubuntu repositories?07:26
adriyelyes07:26
sean__so this is way off topic, but any one know a good linux game for an anitque computer? gnibbles just aint cutting it :p07:26
adriyelsynaptic07:26
Jowidelire: apt-get install mozilla-firefox07:26
robotgeekSolidRaven: hardwire, as in connect to ethernet port?07:26
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robotgeeksean__: nethack!07:26
delireadriyel: ok, 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozill-firefox'07:26
adriyel<--- note, I normally use Slackware/Gentoo, I'm not using to things being automagical and modified from the norm07:26
delireJowi: ?07:26
SolidRavenrobotgeek > i did this: open root terminal, login, ndiswrapper -i /home/bart/windows_drivers/SiS136u/WinXP/sis136u.inf then i did ndiswrapper -m and then i tried modprobe ndiswrapper07:26
sean__nethacK? sounds like fun to me :) thanks!07:26
SolidRavenand then my linux got stuck07:26
spiralhi07:26
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Jowidelire: i suffer from a damaged brain today07:26
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delireJowi: hehe np.07:27
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shanecan someone open a gnumeric file for me on their pc and convert it to a csv or similar format?  I need it badly and would love someone to help07:27
delireJowi: (i was like that yesterday)07:27
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Jowidelire: which probably mean i didn't have enough coffee, haha07:27
adriyelhmm, apt-get vs. portage vs. swaret in my mind right now07:27
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shanei just need help from someone for 25 seconds of their time to convert a gnumeric file07:27
delireadriyel: eek07:27
adriyelok, its reinstalled, gonna do a stability test07:27
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sean__you missed git :p07:27
delireadriyel: oks07:27
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mirakis there a known bug with X firefox and 6600gt ?07:27
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deliremirak: what architecture and ff version?07:28
shaneplease someone help me convert this gnumeric file for me?07:28
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evaknows somebody why mplayer doesn't work07:28
adriyeldelire: I fired it up, we'll see if it survives07:28
martinQuestion: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?07:28
robotgeekSolidRaven: sorry, i dunno what's going wring, try looking into /var/log/messages and see if something weird is there07:28
mirakubuntu X386 hoary07:28
SolidRavenshould i try to use the hotplug system?07:28
delireadriyel: ok, make sure it's not a flash site that's playing up. some crash ff on all platforms.07:28
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mirakI just bought a 6600gt with athlon 6407:28
adriyelnah, its a random timed crash man07:28
SolidRavenrobotgeek > somebody said that might work07:28
evaknows somebody why mplayer doesn't work07:28
deliremirak: hmm adriyel has the same problem. ff 1.0.6?07:28
mirakdelire: this always comes from firefox07:29
adriyelI start it up, homepage is gentoo, it'll work at first, then for no reason, it'll crash and require a proc kill07:29
evai can't see any avi-s in ubuntu07:29
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mirakand it happens to other windows after that07:29
adriyelI am starting to wonder if this has to do with the 64 bit versions....07:29
delireadriyel: you may have the same bug as mirak. this is valuable information.07:29
SolidRaveneva > installing the right codec might help ;)07:29
Jowieva, have you installed correct codecs ?07:29
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adriyelso, the bug is reproducible, under a 64bit environment07:29
adriyelis it worth noting that I have a 6800GT?07:30
mirakMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050524 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2 MFSA2005-44)07:30
evai have the codecs07:30
robotgeekSolidRaven: you should have tested to see if your card works correctly, and then ndiswrapper -m07:30
adriyelAthlon3500, 6800GT, Ubuntu6407:30
evadivx4linux07:30
mirakI must relog07:30
Jowieva: try to change your -vo to SDL and see if that helps07:30
mirakand kill X07:30
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delireadriyel: excellent, go and tell that to folk in #ubuntu-devel citing that 2 people in #ubuntu with the same arch and card have the same problem.07:30
adriyelhasn't crashed yet07:30
SolidRavendamnit, ext3 drivers for windows didn't load again :(07:30
deliremirak: stick around.07:30
evai try07:30
adriyeloh thats freaky07:30
delireadriyel: hasn't crashed??07:30
adriyelnot yet, no07:30
adriyelweird.07:30
delireadriyel: hmm.. were you using any extensions?07:31
adriyelnope07:31
adriyelall stock07:31
adriyel100%07:31
silentiggerwhere can i get plugin mp3?07:31
adriyelthis is a fresh install, starting crashing for no apparent reason, it was working last night07:31
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can-o-wormshas anyone here had any problems with samba and osx, i have gentoo box that works fine... but ubuntu and osx don't get along, although i can access the samba share on ubuntu from windows07:31
Jowieva: you can even try X11/Vesa if SDL fail. vo = video output sink.07:31
adriyelyou gotta install gstreamer from the universal repositories silentigger07:31
delireadriyel: odd.  did you log out without closing FF last night?07:31
adriyelgo to sources in synaptic, check all of them...not to my knowledge, no07:31
silentiggerthakns adriyel07:31
adriyelnp07:32
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adriyelI had that problem too07:32
adriyellistening to an MP3 right now07:32
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silentiggeradriyel, and player dvd?07:32
adriyelby the time you've installed all the codecs you can find07:32
requiem_I have the non cvs cedega, and I want to install it in ubuntu07:32
adriyelwhich is what I did07:32
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requiem_how do I do that ?07:32
mirakhi07:32
mirakI am back07:32
adriyelyou should have dvd support...in theory, I haven't tested it07:32
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deliremirak still have the firefox crash problem?07:32
mirakwhat did you say last ?07:32
mirakdelire: I restarted X07:32
mirakdelire: in fact firefox doesn't crash07:33
deliremirak: firefox still crashing?07:33
deliremirak: right, good.07:33
silentiggeri user powerpc version07:33
mirakit dosn't crash, it propagates wrong display07:33
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adriyelmine doesn't crash either07:33
mirakon all windows07:33
deliremirak: hmm, odd.07:33
deliremirak: a new one ;)07:33
mirakbut it always come after a firefox manipulation07:33
carajeananyone know how to simply change my resolution it wont go any higher but in windows it does?? please its on a big resolution07:33
adriyelI might install the PPC version on my g/f's mac07:33
adriyelhow well does the powerpc version run?07:34
sean__lol... my gf would kill me if i touched her mac :p07:34
delireadriyel: i installed Ubuntu on 10 eMacs. really improved their performance.07:34
sean__PPC version is good, i tried the live version, was good07:34
EasterSunshineemacs is a text editor?07:34
silentiggervery nice07:34
sean__yes, emacs is a test ed07:34
delireEasterSunshine: hehe07:34
evadidn't work that vo to SDL thing07:34
adriyeldelire, she has a powermac g3, with Mac OS 907:35
delireright07:35
sean__test lol.. wow no more beer.. not even noon07:35
EasterSunshinemac made a thingie named after a text editor? lol07:35
silentiggeriBook G407:35
adriyelwill this be an improvement, in terms of performance?07:35
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Jowieva: you can even try X11/Vesa if SDL fail.07:35
EasterSunshinemac will have viMacs next07:35
Jowieva: do you get any error messages or is the screen just black?07:35
delireadriyel: quite likely. it worked well on these eMacs. especially in 3D and video applications.07:35
adriyeldelire, firefox is stable, it hasn't crashed, thanks for the help07:35
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delireadriyel: anytime07:35
evablank07:35
adriyelI'll probably burn the install and the dvd07:35
fab_hi07:36
carajeanno resolutions solutions people :)07:36
adriyelerm07:36
adriyelnot the dvd07:36
adriyelthe live07:36
evablack07:36
adriyelI'll run the live, see how they like it07:36
EasterSunshinewhat's in the hizzle, fab_ ?07:36
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adriyelthen, figure out how to dual boot the beast07:36
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Jowieva: have you tried playing your avi with totem-xine? i preffer it to mplayer....07:36
mirakdelire: I installed ubuntu on powermacs. X seems to take a bit to much ressources though07:37
adriyel<--- Mac n00b, the closest experience I have with Mac is some bsd tinkering07:37
mirakdelire: do you have the nvidia drivers or nv driver ?07:37
adriyelX seems to take too much resources???!!! have you ran Mac OS X! :laughs:07:37
whyameyeanybody know how to install JRE (Java Runtime Environment) on Firefox?07:37
HappyFool!java07:37
ubotu[java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java07:37
adriyelI run propietary nvidia drivers :)07:37
mirakadriyel: yes it's worse07:37
evanope07:37
sean__i love that bot07:37
adriyelhold on, you mean to tell me that X11 is worse than OS X?07:38
EasterSunshine!botsnack07:38
ubotuthanks eastersunshine :)07:38
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deliremirak: i use an ATI card on my machines07:38
adriyelbullshit, I've run OS X and X11 on this Athlon64 and X11 pwns it07:38
evahow to install it , can you give me exact instructions07:38
mirakdelire: with firefox bug ?07:38
mirakdelire: what happens for you ?07:38
sean__hahah, OX x86?07:38
adriyelI dun think it has to do with graphics07:38
Jowieva: in a terminal: sudo apt-get install totem-xine07:38
sean__err OS x86?07:38
adriyelsean, yes, I've installed OS x8607:38
adriyeltheres no drivers07:39
adriyelnothing works07:39
sean__haha nice :) whats it like?07:39
adriyeland it lags07:39
deliremirak: it wasn't me that has a ff bug with nvidia/amd64 hardware, it was adriyel07:39
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evatnx07:39
adriyelit needs polishing07:39
miraksean__: I will try it since I got a brand new athlon 64 venice with sse307:39
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adriyelI'd say it has potential07:39
adriyelAthlon64 3500 Venice here <---07:39
sean__aww, well its a nice concept :)07:39
adriyeltrust me man07:39
adriyelonce they get their drivers together07:39
mirakadriyel: I got a 300007:39
adriyeland optimize the thing, it'll be nice07:39
mirakadriyel: what is ou graphic card ?07:39
deliremirak: OSX is terribly slow in my experience.07:39
mirakyour07:39
adriyelmy Venice has been overclocked to a HTT/FSB of 300mhz...lol07:39
adriyel6800GT gfx card07:39
mirakdelire: I remember hearing that07:39
adriyelVenice @ core of 2.7/30007:40
sean__cool cool :) i run a mac too, like the idea of  never having to buy another lol07:40
fab_what multi-protocol instant messenger do you guys use?07:40
mirakdelire: how can it be slower than on a G4 350 mhz ?07:40
adriyelI've never bought a Mac, I've just made a habit of breaking them07:40
adriyelfab - gaim07:40
mirakdelire: I guess what slows down is only graphic card07:40
zukalkfab_, Gaim07:40
silentiggerG4 1.2 Ghz07:40
mirakadriyel: I have never bought one either07:40
deliremirak: no, it's a poorly designed OS07:40
sean__lol, i do alot of desktop publishing, need mac for it :(07:40
mirakadriyel: my neibourgh gave them to me07:40
adriyelnice deal07:40
fab_so, gaim seems to be pretty popular :D07:40
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deliremirak: OSX has very poor memory management..07:40
fab_ok, thx guys07:40
sean__lol, i hate gaim :p07:40
zukalksean__, what do you use then?07:41
adriyelthe only mac I'd ever want is an ibook, and that would be after they release an intel version, even though I hate intel :|07:41
mirakdelire: it's down to darwin07:41
mirakbound07:41
sean__aMSN for the msn network07:41
silentiggerafter runing MacOS X tiger07:41
fab_sean: what are you using?07:41
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adriyelwell, the reason Mac OS x86 doesn't have drivers, is because the x86 version of Darwin has been paid almost no attention to07:41
sean__aMSN (alit pawns game for MSN..07:41
mirakdelire: there things that linux is bad at. for exemple mounting isos as a user. you can't do that on linux07:41
adriyelwtf? you ever heard of automount?07:41
sean__(alit = Al's Messenger07:41
deliremirak: you can mount iso's07:42
deFryskmirak, nonsense07:42
deliremirak: using loopback07:42
adriyelyou can mount iso's as a user07:42
mirakdeFrysk: well not from gnome07:42
fab_sean: I see07:42
mirakif we can it's fine07:42
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adriyelI use gnome...07:42
mirakand I want to know how07:42
fab_k, thx07:42
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adriyeland fluxbox07:42
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.07:42
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HappyFoolis there a way to do the 'default' action from the command-line in gnome, ala windows 'start' ?07:42
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mihaihow can i set a root password?07:42
adriyelpasswd root07:42
deFrysk! root07:43
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adriyelsudo passwd root07:43
uboturumour has it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:43
adriyelsorry07:43
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adriyelrumor has it, you don't need root07:43
HappyFooli think 'sudo passwd' might do it too07:43
adriyelits called SUDO07:43
jameswhich emulator would I use if I want to run Microsoft Office?07:43
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sean__Wine07:43
mirakdeFrysk: how do you do that ?07:43
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silentiggerRobinho_Peixoto, are you from?07:43
EnsignRedshirtHardware gurus:  For the past few days, whenever I boot up, my disk drive makes a steady whining/grinding/moaning noise.  Eventually it stops.  It still seem to be working.  How much longer do you think it will last?07:43
sean__and Wine is not an emulator :p07:43
adriyeljames, use crossover office07:43
adriyellol @ sean, stupid recursiveness07:44
silentiggerRobinho_Peixoto, are you from?07:44
Robinho_Peixotoslicslak, Brasil07:44
mirakadriyel: how do you mount an iso as a user ?07:44
sean__ahhah :p07:44
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Robinho_Peixotosilentigger, why ?07:44
jameswhere would I acquire crossover office?07:44
adriyelI changed permissions, why?07:44
adriyelor, you could use automount...07:44
tomjmalonesorry i'm new to ubuntu where is the best place to talk bugs on the brezzy distro and installer07:44
adriyeljames, bit torrent07:44
silentiggerRobinho_Peixoto, I'm from Brazil07:44
evait works now but there is no sound07:44
jamesI'm sorry what is bit torrent?07:45
deFryskjames, use google07:45
jamesk07:45
sean__bit torrent is a way to share files07:45
deliremirak: don't you mean something like (from memory) 'mount /tmp/myIso /mnt -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop user'07:45
jameswhere would I get wine? do I download it?07:45
adriyelheh, sean, you put that delicately07:45
deFrysk! wine07:46
mihaiwow, nice gnome graphics :) (my first time install)07:46
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sean__to loop an iso?07:46
sean__lol, you have to put that delicately :p07:46
mihaiso ubuntu is all i386, right ? no optimized binaries07:46
mihai?07:46
sean__x86, amd64, and ppc07:46
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adriyeloptimized is relative, and you don't necessarily need an mtune or march to optimize something07:47
tomjmalonei think he means like i586 i686 etc07:47
adriyelnah, its i386 man07:47
mihai:(07:47
deFryskmihai, optimised kernels are available07:47
sean__oh.. pfft... im still in the i386 days lol.. i wish i could ask about my 586 :p07:47
mirakdelire: for exemple yes, and whitout having an fstab entry07:47
Juhazmost of the i386 distros have been compiled with those i586 optimizations that don't break compability07:47
mihaiwho the hell has a 386 anyway, you could've made it at least i58607:47
mihaioh07:47
adriyelif you want optimized, get a source distro like gentoo, Ubuntu is a mainstream, not a performance distro07:48
jameshow do I know if I am using Linux RPM or Linux deb?07:48
sean__mihai, i do.. sooo pfft!07:48
adriyelmihai, they are optimized07:48
adriyelthey are tuned for 68607:48
NoUse!wine07:48
deliremihai: well you don't need an /etc/fstab entry to mount iso's07:48
adriyeljust not compiled exclusively for 38607:48
deliremihai: sorry..07:48
mihaii just removed gentoo, i loved it, but i didn't have enough space for it07:48
deliremirak: well you don't need an /etc/fstab entry to mount iso's07:48
adriyeldon't sweat it man, Ubuntu is faster than most distro's07:48
mirakmihai: get a A64 there is a 64 bit version07:48
adriyelI run 64bit Ubuntu, its nice, I promise07:48
mihaii will install it in a chroot inside gentoo, i promise :007:49
adriyelseriously, I'm really not CPU limited on much of anything anymore07:49
sean__how peppy is the 64 bit version?07:49
adriyelits pretty damn peppy07:49
deliresean__: i hear it rocks07:49
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adriyelstuff that normally sat on the CPU, just kinda zips through07:49
adriyelespecially math heavy stuff07:49
sean__*sniff* ok time to upragade lol07:49
adriyelthe encode/decode times are NICE07:49
fab_cool :D07:49
adriyelI am in love with audio/video on this thing07:49
adriyelI could turn this thing into an audio studio...07:50
sean__damn, I can imagine, 64 bit computing for the end user, should just blow the socks offa anything im used to07:50
mirakadriyel: is java working ?07:50
fab_you can run this with a PIV 2,5Ghz?07:50
adriyelthe 64bit version?07:50
fab_yea07:50
adriyelno, to run 64bit you need an athlon64 or an intel with EMT6407:50
whyameyeanybody know anything about USB-->serial conversion with ubuntu?07:50
adriyeltypically a Xeon, or that other lineup07:51
fab_I though so :(07:51
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adriyel*shrugs* it said 64 after all :P07:51
fab_so no upgrade for me ^^07:51
evait works but rheres no sound07:51
adriyelget a dual core athlon64 machine07:51
adriyelthat would be a DREAM07:51
sean__eww @ the thought of xeon07:51
ninnghizidhaanybody knows about squashFS in Ubuntu?07:51
fab_adriyel: :D07:51
mihaidoes anybody know of a possible combination to have ddr2 memory on athlon64 ?07:51
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adriyelI don't like intel, so xeon's make me lurch07:51
sean__yeah, amd is where its at :)07:51
adriyelmihai, doesn't gigabyte have a converter07:51
mihaiadriyel: no idea, what kind of a converter?07:52
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ndlovuI'm reinstalling ubuntu after my filesystem got trashed. any recommendations on partitioning?07:52
ndlovuis it a good idea to separate /home from /etc and all the rest?07:52
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ninnghizidhaI'd seperate /, /home and /boot07:52
Robinho_Peixotosilentigger, where the place of brazil07:53
mirakadriyel: that's 500 euros07:53
adriyelI dunno, just heard a rumor that gigabyte had a special mobo07:53
adriyelyeah, I suspected so07:53
ninnghizidhabut .. if it is a file/webserver, i'd seperate /var too.07:53
mihaiadriyel: ok i'll google or something07:53
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mirakI can't insatll this module nvidia-glx07:53
sean__I seperate /usr too07:53
adriyelFUCK07:53
adriyeldelire07:53
liquidfiremirak,07:53
adriyelFirefox crashed again Delire07:53
liquidfireis that the driver/binary for your nvidia card?07:53
liquidfireBecause it didn't worked here either07:53
ndlovuhow much space for each?07:53
mirakadriyel: what happens exactly ?07:54
liquidfireI used a different guide07:54
fab_adriyel: that's weird07:54
adriyelmeh, it randomly crashes07:54
mirakliquidfire: yes07:54
adriyelit was doing this earlier07:54
liquidfireI'll give you the guide07:54
mirakliquidfire: do you haev the url ?07:54
liquidfireYou need to compile it yourself07:54
sean__check about:config for any malformed strings?07:54
mirakok07:54
fab_adriyel: I have never seen FireFox crashing07:54
delireadriyel: i would definitely ask politely in #ubuntu-devel. mirak also has as related problem and has the same hardware and ff version.d07:54
mirakliquidfire: no !07:54
mirakaarghhh07:54
liquidfire:?07:54
Pr1smHi, I have an external creative sound blaster soundcard, however creative have not published a linux driver for it, Is it possible to install this hardware, And disable the onboard sound07:54
mirakdelire: I am not on ubuntu 6407:55
liquidfirePr1sm, it should be detected07:55
liquidfireautomaticily07:55
delireadriyel: if it was just sitting there and suddenly crashed then report it.07:55
liquidfiretype salsamixer in terminal07:55
adriyeldelire, yes07:55
deliremirak: oh, i thought you said you were on amd6407:55
mihaiis ubuntu the fastest binary distro ?07:55
liquidfiremirak, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/nvidiamanual07:55
mirakliquidfire: I think I must remove my ATI driver07:55
liquidfirehmm ?07:55
sean__mihai,   I wouldnt say the fastest, but definatly the best07:56
liquidfireremove it via the syntapic manager07:56
liquidfire:)07:56
fab_mirak: you've got a RADEON?07:56
deliremirak: hehe that will be it.07:56
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liquidfirecould someone give me the command to reconfigure x-server ?07:56
Pr1smwhat if it doesnt detect it automaticaaly07:56
adriyeldelire; devel was useless07:56
deliremirak: you've swapped cards on that machine?07:56
mirakfab_: I had a radeon07:56
adriyelthey are trying tor redirect me to here07:56
fab_prlsm: It does07:56
delireadriyel: shame..07:56
Jowimihai: i find slackware to be faster in general. but nothing beats ubuntu in features.07:56
mirakdelire: I swapped CPU mother board and video card07:56
adriyelsigh...07:57
delireadriyel: start ff from the terminal and look for output.07:57
fab_prlsm: I got a soundblaster too and it works fine for me07:57
liquidfiresame here07:57
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liquidfirecould someone give me the command to reconfigure x-server ?07:57
Pr1smits not doing07:57
mirakit installed fine07:57
nate_Okay, Java isn't in the extra respitories http://ubuntuguide.org/07:57
HappyFoolliquidfire: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:57
Pr1smits a sound blaster mp3+ and connects via USB07:57
liquidfirethanks HappyFool07:57
liquidfireyou helped me again ;)07:57
deliremirak: 'dpkg -l | grep fglrx' and then dpkg -P the fglrx package07:57
HappyFoolliquidfire: np ;)07:57
nate_I edited sources file, and still can't find it, but all other repos are there.07:57
HappyFoolnate_: have you read the java page on the wiki?07:57
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mihaishit i have only 2-3 apps open in gnome + this irssi and it takes 250 f*** mbytes!07:58
mihaifrom ram07:58
adriyeldelire: I told them it sounded like the "not my job" syndrome, and that I get that enough at work07:58
nate_Yes, I have.07:58
adriyelI also told them, with honesty, that I'll just switch to Gentoo07:58
nate_It's saying it can't find it on E: or something like that.07:58
mirakdelire I used aptitude remove07:58
adriyeltheir dev support is actually existent07:58
nate_But all other extra repos work =\07:58
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HappyFoolnate_: no, 'E:' means error, not e-drive ;)07:58
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HappyFool!tell nate_ about hoary-extras07:58
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HappyFoolthat should give you info about adding hoary-extras07:59
sean__!tell sean__ hoary-extras07:59
Sartashey! the mp3 checker "mp3check" how do i make it delete all bad files?07:59
mirakmd5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum07:59
miraksorry07:59
mirakwrong window07:59
Sartasanyone knows?07:59
liquidfireis it wise to install nforce drivers ?07:59
liquidfireI don't use the onboard sound08:00
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nate_What I'm not getting is all I've had to do before is edit the text file, then run apt-get install sun-jre1.508:00
delireadriyel: hmm shame. start firefox with 'firefox -g' for a gdb stacktrace. report the crash to the firefox fox. it will be appreciated to many,08:00
Pr1smthe ubuntu compatible hardware database says it is compatible, but it is not auto detecting it, Is there something I can do08:00
nate_and I NEVER had this problem.08:00
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HappyFoolnate_: are you sure you added the hoary-extras repo correctly?08:00
Sartashey! the mp3 checker "mp3check" how do i make it delete all bad files?08:00
delirenate_: it'll be a repo problem i'd say.08:00
HappyFoolnate_: i think planetmirror  mirror might be down08:00
nate_Yes, I am, I've tried restoring it, and am still having the problem.08:00
fab_delire, when you install the ati driver with those commands, you don't have to make a new kernel?08:00
adriyelit crashed again08:01
adriyelI'll try it with a gdb trace08:01
nate_Okay, so just wait a day or so and try again?08:01
Sartaswhen is mono gonna be released for amd64??08:01
HappyFoolnate_: if you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin, we can tell you if it looks right08:01
delirefab_: ? perhaps the wrong nick?08:01
adriyelthanks for your help so far delire08:01
nate_Do you want me to just paste it in chat?08:01
HappyFoolnate_: no, the pastebin08:01
delireadriyel: np08:01
HappyFool!pastebin08:01
adriyelapparently it is a "noted" but not "filed" problem with amd6408:01
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:01
adriyelI am talking to one of the devs now08:02
delireinteresting08:02
nate_The paste bin?08:02
HappyFoolyip, paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:02
Jowinate_: paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:03
Sartasadriyel: do they have a date to relaese it?08:03
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nate_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/155808:03
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adriyeldate to release what?08:03
liquidfireIs it wise to install nforce drivers ?08:03
Sartasmono08:03
sean__adriyel, lol, wow those dev's were cranky today :p08:03
adriyelI noticed Sean08:03
mike_'list08:03
fab_delire: you wrote about flgrx, haven't you?08:03
adriyelmade me want to revert to gentoo's forums/dev channels...08:03
mike_#list08:03
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sean__i dont like gentoo08:03
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adriyelI don't like installing Gentoo, but I enjoy Gentoo itself08:04
HappyFoolnate_: hmm. looks ok at first glance08:04
delirefab_ yes, but about removing the driver, not installing it.08:04
nate_Yeah, I made sure, edited it back to original over 3 times.08:04
Sartaswhy cant RythmBox import 40gb music w/o freeze? isnt linux supposed to be more stable?08:04
sean__i dont know, if i was ever to kill my ubunutu <never gonna happen> id probably do slackware again08:05
popeySartas: you try reading 40GB of files without feeling a bit busy :D08:05
sean__i find slack to be much more pacey.08:05
Sartaspopey: i havent got 256 ram and 2gHz installed in my brain :S08:06
delirefab_ i have several machines with the ATI card but i use the 'ati way' to install the fglrx driver. this is not reccommended here08:06
popey:)08:06
mihaiadriyel: it seems that mobo u were talking about is for intel cpu's08:06
Sartasseriously: what's wrong?08:06
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mihaiso nobody knows if you can get ddr2+amd64 ?08:06
Sartasit shows some bad files, is that the problem?08:06
sean__Is there a published list of all the ubuntu channels?08:06
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phreakys_hi08:07
adriyelmihai, shit08:07
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adriyelnevermind then, wait for socket M208:07
Sartas...08:08
phreakys_i got problems running g++ while its allready there :(08:08
Sartasplease help me08:08
phreakys_phreakys@3k2:/usr/bin$ dir g++08:08
phreakys_g++08:08
phreakys_phreakys@3k2:/usr/bin$ g++08:08
phreakys_bash: g++: command not found08:08
phreakys_phreakys@3k2:/usr/bin$08:08
adriyelalright, I am leaving guys, I'll see you later08:08
Sartasa computer without music is unusuable08:08
phreakys_ow come? :/08:08
godzirraCan anyone help me get wine and winetools installed?  everytime I try and install I get this error:  wine: Depends: libwine (= 0.0.20050310-1.1) but 0.0.20050419-1~5.04ubp1 is to be installed08:08
delirefab_: it's best to use the ubuntu binary driver howto wiki to install the fglrx driver.08:08
mihaiso the question is... can i have a 64bit cpu + ddr2 memory ?08:08
phreakys_apt-get install wine08:08
phreakys_godzirra?08:08
deliregodzirra: something is wrong with your sources.list.08:08
phreakys_apt-cache search wine08:09
phreakys_check if its in the list08:09
godzirrathe only editing of my souces.lists I did was is where it says to uncomment tghe following two lines for unsupported stuff.08:09
godzirraand I just did apt-get update08:09
phreakys_maybe you need to adjust your sources.lst08:09
godzirraphreakys_: yeah, tons of stuff is in the list, but yes, wine is one of them.  so is winetools08:09
phreakys_ah ok08:09
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Sartasplease, i need help. RythmBox wont import my music collection. it shows some bad files, is this the problem? ive tried the app mp3checker, but it wont check my files, it just shows 0 problems, 0 checked..08:10
nate_So could it just be a down server?08:10
HappyFoolnate_: hmm. looks like the hoary-extras repos are empty (?)08:10
Sartasand my music collection is 40gb08:10
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Sartasplease help me..08:10
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nate_what does that mean?08:10
godzirradelire: whatcould be wrong with my souces.list and how can I fix it?08:10
godzirraand why the heck can't I type sources08:10
HappyFoolnate_: i'm not sure what the problem is08:10
godzirra:po08:10
jepeltwHello all. I'm installing Ubuntu and it's on the second part of the installation (after the reboot) but it got a read error on the CD. How can I make it retry?08:10
deliregodzirra: hehe08:10
sean__Sartas, two words... Beep XMMS08:10
godzirraSo how do I fix this bad library problems?08:11
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Sartassean__: .. im more into a itunes like app08:11
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sean__lol really? i hate it, and ive got 80gb in music08:11
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deliregodzirra: your problem is in those 'unsupported' repo's you uncommented. they have messed up the dependencies for some packages.08:11
deliregodzirra: comment them out again and apt-get update. wine should install fine.08:12
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nate_So should I just wait a couple days and try it again? Like I said the other repos worked, maybe its just the server down?08:12
=== delire notes people seem to love BMP
Sartassean__ but how do i make it then?08:12
sean__Sartas: beep + xmms are on synaptic, as for rythmbox, idk, I stripped it out the minute i saw it08:13
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HappyFoolnate_: could be, i'm not sure08:13
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Sartassean__ what is beep??08:13
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dalamarjust installed gcc4, its not in my path, what gives?08:13
nate_Okay, thanks for your time.08:14
deliredalamar: gcc is. 'ls -l /usr/bin/gcc'08:14
somedude_can someone recomend a network / ip logger ??08:14
somedude_easy setup08:14
sean__beep is like XMMS08:14
deliredalamar: gcc is a symlink08:14
sean__excpet gtk2, unlike xmms08:14
deliredalamar: sorry, /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink08:14
Sartassean__ : but i said i wanted a app like iTunes. xmms doesnt handle libraries that good..08:15
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mihaiso is the .deb from debian 100% compatible with ubuntu ?08:15
dalamardelire, its not there08:15
dalamargcc-4.008:15
delireSartas: most say amarok is the closest to itunes, and in many ways much better.08:15
sean__yeah08:15
deliredalamar: what's not there?08:15
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HappyFooldalamar: try 'dpkg -L gcc4' (or whatever the package is called)08:15
somedude_mihai, i wouldnt mind knowing that too08:16
Sartasdelire: but it doesnt look as simple as rythmbox ^^'08:16
HappyFoolmihai: apparently not -- though i've never tried08:16
dalamarokay I see its under gcc-4.0 for some reason, can I rename this to gcc woth no hiccups since obviously a 'mak' is not going to see it as is08:16
Sartasall i want is to make RythmBox work08:16
deliredalamar: if you installed it it should be in /usr/bin/08:16
sean__Sartas, yeah, that never even crossed my mind try out amarok08:16
wondering_jewi have a stupid newbie question :) I created a user name and password so my roomates could access my computer on the network and it worked just fine but now we cant remember what they are....08:16
Sartasive tried it08:16
Sartasit looks awful08:16
HappyFooldalamar: try 'make CC=gcc-4.0' ? (i think that's one way)08:16
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dalamarHappyFool, I'll give it a try08:17
deliredalamar: again, /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink. you can always rm /usr/bin/gcc and make a new symlink or yes, set a compile flag CC=gcc-4.008:17
dalamarlol I have no 'gcc' I just said that, just the gcc-4.008:17
Sartas...08:17
dalamaranyways08:17
HappyFoolwondering_jew: System -> Administration -> users and groups08:17
deliredalamar: very weird08:17
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HappyFoolwondering_jew: you'll probably have to reset the password -- i don't think you can find it out08:18
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liquidfireWow, this blows :o08:18
liquidfireI tried to update my nvidia drivers08:18
liquidfireunder breezy08:18
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liquidfireNow i can't start X anymore08:18
liquidfire=/08:18
dalamarHappyFool, that worked, can I just add another link from gcc-4.0 to gcc to prevent from having to do the CC=gcc=4.0 bit?08:19
wondering_jewim talking about the samba password08:19
Dr_Willis'windows answer' = reformat, reinstall.08:19
Dr_Willis:P08:19
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liquidfirelol Dr_Willis08:19
HappyFooldalamar: i'm not sure; i don't see why not08:19
dalamarHappyFool, k thanks much08:19
liquidfireno i compiled my driver with the wrong gcc i think08:19
liquidfireit said 3.3 was used08:19
liquidfirebut i used 4.008:19
deliredalamar: i 'ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc'08:19
whistlingtonyHi all, anyone decent with wireless in Linux? I can't ping from wireless card to wireless card. I have the right module, essid, IPaddy's are manually set..... can't ping.08:19
sean__am i going to get funny looks if im ordering 30-40 ubntu cds to drop around town08:20
dalamardelire, I know, but thanks ;)08:20
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HappyFoolsean__: probably depends if the people you give them to are expecting them or not08:20
GregIf I want to create a windows/ubuntu dual boot, Am i best installing windows or ubuntu first for grub to be setp up correctly or does it not matter08:20
liquidfirefirst windows08:20
puffAnybody have opinions about afterstep?08:20
liquidfirethen ubuntu08:20
whistlingtonyGreg, set up windows first08:20
wnorrixhow do i share a printer with my windows computers08:20
wnorrixi know i have to use samaba08:20
Gregok thankyou08:20
puffJust curious, because I heard so much cool stuff about NextStep, waybackwhen.08:20
deliredalamar: hehe ok08:20
wnorrixbut for some reason it does not share it08:21
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Gregso windows on the primary partition and then ubuntu on the secondary08:21
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whistlingtonyGreg, that'll work, and should give you no problems08:21
sean__yeah, alot of my buddies own computer stores, they want copies to give to customers and what not08:21
Gregty08:21
whistlingtonyYup08:21
liquidfirecan somebody look for me what the right gcc 3.3 filename is ?08:21
liquidfireso i can use apt-get to update08:21
MerovingianI want to bridge my lan... my gateway machine has two NICs, and a modem... how do I set up Internet connection sharing and also bridge the two NICs?08:21
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liquidfirebecause apt-cache gives me a huge list08:21
HappyFoolliquidfire: on my system, /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 belongs to the gcc-3.3 package08:22
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liquidfirek08:22
liquidfirei am using breezy08:22
whistlingtonyMerovingian, you want to look up NAT using iptables... it's a bit complex to say over IRC.... bridging should be easy though08:22
liquidfirehad some compiling errors08:22
liquidfire=08:22
liquidfire=/08:22
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chrismylendercoders08:22
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sartasGRR!!:: Just because i have a 800x600 i cant configure Amarok. i cant select okay, because i dont see it!08:23
JowiMerovingian: http://www.aboutdebian.com/network.htm. covers all you need to know regarding basic and advanced networking.08:23
suemor2HELP please I have an IBM R50e Laptop for work I have installed Ubuntu Hoary but I need access to the internal modem when at work eth0 works fine at home.  How do I configure it nothing seems to work?08:23
kemikMerovingian:  what do you mean with "bridge the two NICs"?08:23
sartasthe whole window is filling up my screen!!08:23
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sartaswhat to do!08:23
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sartaswhat to do!08:24
sartasi need to configure it!08:24
kemikMerovingian:  http://qtables.radom.org/ <- it'll generate a bashscript that sets up your iptable-rules. its nice & simple08:24
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chrismyanyone can teach me the easiest way to compile from source for my 64bit ubuntu?08:24
Jowisartas: if you hold down ALT+leftmouse you should be able to move the window08:24
Vashhey, I'm having issues with the nvidia driver installer08:24
sartasplease help!08:24
sartasokay!08:24
sartasyay!08:24
Merovingiankemik, I need all three nodes to be able to access each other08:25
Vashthe installer complains about not being able to find nvidia.ko module08:25
somedude_ok atleast ive tried.. this i did: sudo aptitude search log and browsed through the results - didnt find anything to my liking, i want a network logger.. if someone tries to connect to port yadda i want it to show up.. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME please! :)08:25
sartasJowi: i can see the buttoms now. but not whats written. theres 3 of them. which one to click? could you check?08:25
HappyFoolchrismy: install the 'build-essential' package. What do you want to compile?08:25
Merovingiankemik, thanx ;-)08:25
sartasamarok, configure window08:25
suemor2HELP please I have an IBM R50e Laptop for work I have installed Ubuntu Hoary but I need access to the internal modem when at work eth0 works fine at home.  How do I configure it nothing seems to work?08:25
puffHm... this guy (http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsamwel/laptop_mode/tools/) says "The Ubuntu package "laptop-mode" is based on a very old version of the scripts that have since evolved into laptop-mode-tools.  I recommend using the Debian laptop-mode-tools package instead.08:25
Jowisartas: sorry man. i have never used amarok.08:26
chrismyHappyFool, blender.08:26
puffI am loathe to start playing with debian packages on ubuntu, given that a) I'm just starting with ubuntu and b) #ubuntu folks have said that is not a wise thing to do.08:26
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puffIs ubuntu's laptop_mode still out of date?08:26
MerovingianJowi, thx ;)08:26
mihaii'm curious why did the ubuntu team chose gnome as the wm ?08:26
Vashanyone know anything about the nvidia drivers?08:26
sartasJowi: lets just randomly click them all xD08:26
chrismyHappyFool, i was told i have to compile on my own if i want it on my 64bit ubuntu08:26
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kemikMerovingian:  it could be that quicktables isnt advanced enough, but atleast you'll learn iptables from looking at the script generated ;)08:27
JowiMerovingian: I know it is a looooong tutorial, but scroll abit down and that should cover directing/sharing internet with a computer that got two NICs. I seem to remember though that if you install firestarter, it will have a "share this connection" option available....08:27
Vashnvidia drivers... anyone...08:27
HappyFoolchrismy: if you can't get it via apt-get, then compiling is a good option08:27
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HappyFoolVash: are you following the wiki instructions?08:27
rugHowdy all08:27
mihaiapt-get install fluxbox doesn't work, what repos do i have to enable ?08:27
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Jowisartas: good luck, hah08:27
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VashI'm just checking them out now... but I already tried instructions from the ubuntulinux forums08:28
chrismyHappyFool, yes apt-get gave me the old version :(. so will you guide me how to to compile?08:28
Jowimihai: fluxbox is in universe08:28
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Jowi!info fluxbox08:28
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB08:28
HappyFoolchrismy: i can answer questions. Blender is quite a big app, compiling will no doubt be fairly complicated08:28
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chrismyHappyFool, according to those in blender, they said some scripts might not be done so linux can't detect new versions08:28
delireHappyFool: it's fine.08:29
sean__why use FLuxbox???08:29
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HappyFoolVash: check if the wiki instructions are waht you've done08:29
whistlingtonyWireless problems: ESSID is same, IP's manually set, correct modules, everything should work... Can't ping. Anyone know what I may be missing?08:29
chrismyHappyFool, oh thanks.....08:29
mirakwhen a programm usually in command line have a GUI, is the programm integrated in the gui, or does the gui just uses the binary ?08:29
suemor2HELP please I have an IBM R50e Laptop for work I have installed Ubuntu Hoary but I need access to the internal modem when at work eth0 works fine at home.  How do I configure it nothing seems to work?08:29
delirechrismy: try 'make scons' once the dependencies have been satisfied.08:29
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factorxsean__, because it's lightweight and fast08:29
chrismydelire, erm in english would be?08:29
sean__so is XFCE08:29
sean__and its much better08:29
MerovingianJowi, firestarter is only (at this wizard screen) allowing me to choose one ethernet device to share the connection on08:29
delirechrismy: 'make scons' to compile blender.08:29
Bartimaeusdoes anyone know how to install bittorent?08:29
delirechrismy: there are two prevailing build systems for blender.08:29
JowiMerovingian: yes, at the beginning. you get more options at the prefs screen08:30
mihaisean__: fluxbox is for ultimate geeks08:30
delirechrismy: the 'scons' systems is the easiest from experience.08:30
Bartimaeuswhat is fluxbox?08:30
chrismydelire, wow you know blender?? cool! tell me how!! please...if you don't mind08:30
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NoUseBartimaeus apt-get install bittorrent worked for me08:30
chrismydelire, so what is the very very first step?08:30
mihaiso how do i enable this universe repo ? i've never worked with apt-get before08:30
Bartimaeusnice08:30
sean__lol, fluxbox = retro 80's look... thanks but ill run back to windows 3.11 first :p08:30
fab_bartimaeus: fluxbox ist a windowmanager like gnome08:30
delirechrismy: i use blender in my day job yes.08:30
HappyFool!tell mihai about repos08:30
suemor2HELP please I have an IBM R50e Laptop for work I have installed Ubuntu Hoary but I need access to the internal modem when at work eth0 works fine at home.  How do I configure it nothing seems to work?08:30
VashHappyFool: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia is the instructions, correct?08:30
HappyFoolVash: yip08:31
chrismydelire, gee....you are a graphics designer? 3d artist?08:31
VashHappyFool: but are those for the latest driver version?08:31
HappyFoolVash: i don't think so, no08:31
Bartimaeusfab_, can u explain mor please?08:31
JowiMerovingian: you should be able to choose incoming and outgoing connections... i do not have firestarter installed so i'm not 100% sure of where i saw the options and i have no need to share my conneciton like that since i use a normal router.08:31
delirechrismy: i teach game development, we use blender alot.08:31
chrismydelire, no way......08:31
Vashdelire: w00t, blender :P08:31
suemor2Vash it doesn't matter the process is the same08:31
chrismydelire, so you are gaming teacher?08:31
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suemor2HELP please I have an IBM R50e Laptop for work I have installed Ubuntu Hoary but I need access to the internal modem when at work eth0 works fine at home.  How do I configure it nothing seems to work?08:32
delirechrismy: yes08:32
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NoUsefluxbox is a window manager, gnome is a desktop environment which uses metacity as its window manager08:32
chrismydelire, wow i meet different people with different jobs neat!08:32
Vashwell, I guess I'll give those directions a try when I get home and see how badly I screw things up again08:32
Jowisuemor2: no need to repeat yourself this often. if someone can help they will.08:32
RugI have a bug (I don't know if it has been documented yet) that is easy to reproduce.  Care to smack me with a FAQ or what/where should I go?   It involves kernel 2.6.10-5-k7 and Nvidia (apt-get) driver.08:32
chrismydelire, ok so what is the very first step to compile my working blender on 64 bit machine?08:32
Vashlol, I read about that in the forums Rug :P08:32
Bartimaeusokay, bittorent is installed, but how do i actually use it, lol?08:33
delirechrismy: ok to compile it download the source pacakge, cd into it and read the INSTALL file. it will give you a list of dependencies. some are necessary else your compile will fail.08:33
suemor2jowi just important that was all08:33
dalamarRug, install linux-k7 package08:33
RugVash, ok sorry08:33
Vashyeah, just do a forum search, should be easy to find08:33
dalamarRug, if your talking about X not booting after the k7 kernel install08:33
RugI'm sorry folks...08:33
Jowisuemor2: no prob :-)08:33
chrismydelire, ok hold on . i do not understnd you very much about dependancies,...hold08:33
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fab_cu guys08:33
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NoUseBartimaeus feed it a .torrent file08:34
Bartimaeusanyone know how to actually use bittorrent08:34
chrismydelire, so i go to http://www.blender3d.org/cms/Source_Code.12.0.html and download blender-2.37a.tar.gz ?08:34
Bartimaeushow do you do that?08:34
NoUse!bittorrent08:34
ubotuNoUse: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:34
mdz_Bartimaeus: click on a .torrent file in firefox08:34
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suemor2bartimaeus yes08:34
delirechrismy: when compiling software on any platform the compilation process will often depend on certain binary files and 'headers'. they are in this INSTALL file. the source code package you have found is the right one.08:34
Bartimaeustrhanks08:34
dalamaris there any good program to convert .img images too .iso? I have tried isodump aka img2iso and it always says 'file too large' for a dvd image, can anyone help?08:35
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chrismydelire, ahh so it depends....08:35
JowiBartimaeus: install bittorrent, open a webbrowser and click on a download link for the torrent.08:35
delirechrismy: yep08:35
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maan84Anyone know where I can find some nice Ubuntu wallpapers? thank you08:35
suemor2dalamar doesn't k3b just burn it08:36
chrismydelire, thanks! ok downloading now. will commence another killer question for you :P08:36
skulldoes anybody know what is happening with the backports repositories08:36
deliremaan84: i would say art.gnome.org would be a good start08:36
dalamarsuemor2, img? I dont think so, unless you've done it08:36
delirechrismy: np ;)08:36
maan84delire: Thank you, I'll check it out :)08:36
dalamarimg is a clonecd aka windows format heh08:36
chrismydelire, so you do and teach people make lots of games?08:36
suemor2dalamar k3b clones too08:37
chrismydelire, unbelievable!08:37
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whistlingtonyWireless problems: ESSID is same, IP's manually set, correct modules, everything should work... Can't ping. Anyone know what I may be missing?08:37
chrismydelire, is it ok if we take privately? since we will be kicked if we talk other than ubuntu.....08:37
mihaianybody know if valknut is in some repo?08:37
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skulldoes anybody know what is happening with the backports repositories08:38
dalamarsuemor2, clones? what does that mean? Do I need to install an additional package or something for img support?08:38
delirechrismy: yeah sure, pm me08:38
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deliremaan84: http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?c=508:39
NoUse!info valknut08:39
suemor2no you just do do clone copy rather than a straight copy08:39
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maan84delire: thx :)08:39
dalamarsuemor2, im not copying anything, im trying to burn an image08:40
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suemor2yes but you can copy a clone in k3b to hard drive and the burn it another time08:40
dalamarso I have to burn the .img file to a disc then rip it is that what your saying?08:41
emilioemiliooox08:42
Jowishouldn't it be theoretical possible to mount the image and then copy it to preffered format?08:42
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viyyer__hello08:43
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dalamarJowi, ooh, can you mount .img even in linux? that might work08:43
emiliooomuy buenas08:43
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viyyer__I have a printer installed locally .. I need to share it across the network08:44
whistlingtonyWireless problems: ESSID is same, IP's manually set, correct modules, everything should work... Can't ping. Anyone know what I may be missing?08:44
suemor2dalamar no just go into k3b tools burn cd image select it it should just read it08:44
Jowidalamar: yeah, as a loopback device. i haven't tried it though08:44
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suemor2can anyone help me out with my laptop modem problem at all.08:46
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mihaianybody know if valknut is in some repo?08:46
Jowidalamar: i would try suemor2 s advice though. seems much simpler :-)08:46
HappyFoolsuemor2: do you know what sort of modem it is ?08:46
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whistlingtonySuemor2 you might be boned... modems are kinda flaky with linux... as most modems are software modems.. my advice? go buy an external hardware modem... It'll detect like a dream, and just work.... no fiddling.08:47
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suemor2ac97 from what I can figure from dmesg08:47
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chrismydelire, i am back08:47
whistlingtonySuemor2 lspci and see what it says?08:47
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HappyFoolsuemor2: i thought ac97 was a sound card standard (i may be completely wrong)08:48
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suemor2ac97 modem controller08:48
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BollocksMacenzieWhat's happened to the fullscreen paramiter "-f"? Doesn't seem to work anymore!08:49
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whistlingtonyac97... that's it? Eugh...08:49
HappyFoolsuemor2: your laptop model, again?08:49
Bartimaeusdoes anyone know how to set up a web server?08:49
suemor2happyfool ibm R50e08:49
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HappyFoolBartimaeus: 'sudo aptitude install apache2' should do it08:50
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Bartimaeushow do i run it?08:50
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HappyFoolBartimaeus: it'll be running automatically after it installs -- take a look at 'http://localhost'08:50
HappyFoolBartimaeus: the html files are in /var/www08:50
suemor20000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01) to be precise on what lspci said08:50
Bartimaeusthanks08:50
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HappyFoolsuemor2: hmm. i'm going to guess it's a winmodem. probably the easiest thing will be to download scanModem.gz from http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/ and run it08:52
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reiki_workok this might sound dumb, but is the hotplug service for detecting USB devices being plugged in?08:52
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HappyFoolsuemor2: that will tell you what your modem model is, and i think it'll tell you what drivers to use08:52
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dalamarsuemor2, its burning now , thank you, when I searched for an iso .img doesnt come up you have to select 'list all files' and select it, gues I assumed since it wasn't there it didn't support it ;)08:52
suemor2bartimaeus checkout your own ip address type it into the address bar on firefox should show a welcome page08:52
Jowireiki_work: amongst other things, yes.08:52
mihaiok valknut is in the breeze repository how do i enable it ?08:53
Jowireiki_work: it will also detect my onboard network card and soundcard08:53
HappyFoolmihai: you probably shouldn't, unless you're running breezy (which you also probably shouldn't ;)08:53
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HappyFoolmihai: is valknut a direct connect client? in that case, try dcgui-qt instead08:53
suemor2dalamar k3b is the only piece of kit I tend to use from kde as it is the best in linux land08:54
dalamarsuemor2, I agree, do you know what other formats it may support? mdf or bin for example?08:54
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reiki_workBartimaeus: look in /var/www  you might have a directory called apache2-default or similar. I think theat Ubuntu's default apache install puts the welcome screen in there instead of the web root08:54
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mihaiHappyFool: but valknut is the ex dcgui-qt08:54
mihairight ?08:54
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HappyFooldalamar: you might want to try out the bchunk package for bin files08:55
HappyFoolmihai: i don't know, sorry08:55
mihaiHappyFool: but what exactly is breezy ? i'm running the latest 5.0408:55
naliothmihai: breezy badger is 5.1008:55
HappyFoolmihai: breezy is the next release of ubuntu (5.10) -- but it's still in testing at the moment08:55
dalamarHappyFool, ive tried and still get errors about 'file too large' when trying to convert a dvd image?08:55
mihaiHappyFool: i don't care if stuff breakes, this is just for fun (testing ubuntu)08:55
boodleanyone have luck with sawfish in breezy?08:55
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HappyFooldalamar: sorry, i don't know any more08:56
mihaiHappyFool: so how do i enable the breezy repo ? :p08:56
Jet2k5hello anyone here install the nforce4 drivers?08:56
dalamari think alot of those image conversion programs were all intended for cd images and not so much dvd heh08:56
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godzirradelire: when I comment those unsupported repo's back out, I can't get wine anymore :/08:57
Bartimaeusanybody know how to set up the apache2 stuff.  I'm behind a router, how do i configure that so that i can host pages from my ip?08:57
HappyFoolmihai: in /etc/apt/sources.list, change 'hoary' to 'breezy'. I recommend that you do not do this. I'm not sure what will happen if you just use it like that -- nothing good, i imagine08:57
deliregodzirra: hmm, i thought wine was in universe08:57
sean__bartimeus: just put your computer in the DMZ on the router08:57
naliothmihai: if you like kernel panics, be my guest (run breezy on a non mission critical other machine)08:58
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Bartimaeuscan you explain plz?08:58
JowiBartimaeus: in your router you need to enable portforwarding: your.ip.add.ress port 8008:58
sean__yeah sure, what kinda router?08:58
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mihainalioth: i'm going to get rid of ubuntu these days anyway, so no damage done08:58
JowiBartimaeus: no need to put it in DMZ08:58
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haakonnhi, i've installed mozilla-firefox-locale-nb, but how can i actually get firefox to use it? (norwegian language)08:59
godzirradelire: oh duh.. libwine replaces it apparently.08:59
Bartimaeushow do i do that?08:59
sean__http://192.168.1.1 - router config - u can do portforwarding / DMZ in there.. i prefer to go the DMZ route08:59
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godzirradelire: but wine-tools depends on wine08:59
Bartimaeusthanks08:59
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erchachehi08:59
carajeanhow to make movie quality better the sound and movie are off like he says soemthing before i hear it08:59
erchacheanybody with a hp dl145?08:59
carajean??08:59
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Bartimaeusi need to contact my provider for my ip right?09:00
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mihaiso how do i refresh the apt repos ?09:00
JowiBartimaeus: no need. i will send you a private message09:00
lonetreehi guys09:00
sean__ello lonetree09:00
carajeanwhat the best movie player for linux that i can apt-get?09:01
HappyFoolmihai: 'apt-get update', and, if you want to upgrade to breezy proper, 'apt-get dist-upgrade'; i presume will take a little while.09:01
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lonetreecan anyone help me with some wireless problem?09:01
lonetreehi sean__09:01
lonetreehello?09:01
Madpilotcarajean: I like Totem, which is installed by default and "just works"...09:01
lonetreeanyone can help?09:01
HappyFoolcarajean: you can try xine, mplayer and vlc09:01
Rugcarajean, I use VLC09:01
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HappyFoollonetree: if you ask a specific question, we'll try09:02
carajeanwhat VLC and can i apt get it?09:02
chrismydelire_away, still there?09:02
Rugyes you can09:02
lonetreeok, it seems that I can't get wireless connection at boot time09:02
HappyFoolcarajean: yip. it's in the universe repository09:02
lonetreeI am using dlink wireless card, via ndiswrapper09:02
carajeanyip?09:02
HappyFoolyes ;)09:02
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carajeanooh i  get what ur talkin about now09:03
hazmatwhat package has binaries for converting from dos 2 unix line endings?09:03
suemor2dalamar bin/cue iso img nrg(i think)09:03
lonetreewat i can see is network configuration starts before ndiswrapper start to act on the wireless card09:03
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haakonnhmf, nobody knows how to switch firefox's locale?09:03
hazmati'm searching through synaptic via apt-cache but nothing obvious for dos2unix stands out09:03
lonetreeis there a way to make ndiswrapper start before network configuration?09:03
Rugcarajean, apt-get install vlc09:03
lonetreeHappyFool?09:04
carajeanyeah rug im doin it through that syn thing09:04
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HappyFoollonetree: i don't know; you can look at the ndiswrapper page on the wiki. see below09:04
lonetreehi hondje09:04
HappyFool!ndiswrapper09:04
ubotuI heard ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper09:04
HappyFoolhazmat: it's in sysutils09:05
carajeanlol rug it might just owrk09:05
RugHere is a bit of movie trivia for everybody!    Ubuntu is the name of the navigator in the movie Wing Commander!09:05
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DekaPinkCan I make it so there isn't that loading splash after I log in?09:05
lonetreethat wiki don't tell much anyway09:06
HappyFoolanother in the fine tradition of computer game movies09:06
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RughaR,   yeah it did suck, but atleast it was better then Mario Bros.09:06
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hondjeHey lonetree, ever figure that thing out?09:07
lonetreeanyone else here uses ndiswrapper for wireless card and manage to get wireless connection at boot time?09:07
lonetreehi hindje09:08
lonetreeyou mean the samba thing?09:08
lonetreehondje, you mean the samba thingy?09:08
hondjeYes09:08
IcemanV9does live-cd have "partition editor" or something likes that???09:08
lonetreehondje, have you file the bugs report?09:08
lonetreeI can't figure that out anyway09:08
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hondjeNo, I have no logs or anything that I could use since we couldn't reproduce it :-/09:09
lonetreeand I think in the bugzilla, the problem has been there for q while09:09
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carajeanhow did u guys get vlc to get sound?09:09
lonetreehondje, you mean you dun get the problem? or you do get the problem?09:09
Rugvlc-plugin-alsa - ALSA audio output plugin for VLC09:09
Rugvlc-plugin-arts - aRts audio output plugin for VLC09:09
Rugvlc-plugin-esd - Esound audio output plugin for VLC09:09
lonetreesigh, one problem after another09:10
flgood evening :-)09:10
hondjelonetree: We couldn't get the problem, they tried to make it happen but couldn't either09:10
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lonetreeyou mean you dun get the time cand date changed when you copy from one linux machine to another? hondje?09:11
RugOdd thing happened to my box yesterday.   I booted it up in the morning, and kept getting a Grub Error 22.   Worked fine the night before.09:11
lonetreeor even from linux to wondows?09:11
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hondjelonetree: that's right, no problems at all like that.  The network guys toyed around with it and couldn't make it happen, either09:11
lonetreeare you using samba?09:11
lonetreestrange, why do i keep getting this problem?09:12
hondjelonetree: linux->linux, window->linux, linux->windows, AIX->windows, etc...tried a lot but couldn't reproduce it09:12
lonetreeerrr, hondje, sorry if I have offended you, was my question clear to you ?09:13
hondjeThe network guys couldn't think of a reason to get that problem, which is why I suggested filing a bug :)09:13
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hondjeYes, copying files between various platforms over smb causing bad timestamps09:13
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carajeanhow im in totem and it says streaming how do i get it to stop that its a dvd there is no need to stream09:14
gigaclonwhats the package for installing SDL?09:14
lonetreemy prob was actually, a file with a date e.g 21/09/2004 08:00 a.m,which I tried to copy to a linux shared folder, and when it was copied over, the time and date changes immediately to either, current date or 1980 01 01 tues, 08:00 am09:15
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RugHow are you copying the file?09:15
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hondjelonetree: yeah, we couldn't get it to do that09:16
lonetreehmmm09:16
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lonetreewat was the result?09:16
hondjethings copied normally09:16
xulMunkeei have a .diff file with changes for multiple files... how can i apply it to the multiple files?09:16
hondjeno problem with the time one the files09:16
xulMunkeehere is the diff file: http://ftp.kfki.hu/linux/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kq/kq_0.98+cvs.20031006-2.diff09:16
carajeanhmm how to make totem stop streaming its just reading it off the dvd in the drive09:17
HappyFoolxulMunkee: something like 'patch -p0 < foo.diff'09:17
Bartimaeusanyone know how to find out ur ip when you are behind a router/09:17
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lonetreeit remains the original date? hondje09:18
hondjelonetree: yes09:18
xulMunkeeHappyFool, i want to do something like: patch mydir/ < foo.diff09:18
lonetreestrange09:18
lonetreewat have i done wrong then?09:18
hondjeI cannot think of anything that would cause your problem, lonetree09:18
HappyFoolxulMunkee: if you run 'patch' in mydir, it might work; take a look at 'man patch'09:18
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HappyFoolxulMunkee: the -p strips off leading directories in filenames, iirc09:19
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lonetreehondje : the problem is I dun only face with ubuntu09:19
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lonetreeI got this problem from all distro09:19
xulMunkeeHappyFool, i'm really incompetent the man page gives me a headache09:19
hondjeYeah, I remember that part lonetree, which is why I'd hit up a samba dev and ask them to look at your logs, see if they can find out what's going wrong09:20
HappyFoolxulMunkee: well, make a copy of mydir and try it09:20
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adriyelwhatismyip.com09:20
lonetreethanks for the trouble hondje09:20
hondjelonetree: not a problem at all, sorry I can't be more help :)09:20
lonetreeyou have help a lot09:20
xulMunkeeHappyFool, maybe you can help me... i'm trying to apply this ubuntu .diff file to a tarball source pkg09:21
lonetreejust hope that someone has the same prob as mine and could solve the prob for me09:21
lonetreemy boss is fuming09:21
xulMunkeei mean. i'm trying to compile KQLives09:21
lonetree:-) :-(09:21
xulMunkeefrom the ubuntu source09:21
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hondjelonetree: have you asked in #samba?09:22
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lonetreethe channel?09:22
lonetreeirc?09:22
hondjeYes09:22
HappyFoolxulMunkee: we can try. i normally muddle my way through when using patch -- i'm no guru. is there a 'kq-0.98+cvs.20031006' in mydir?09:22
carajeanis there a working dvdplayer for linux one that u can fast forward and that doesnt play really fast?09:23
hondje /join #samba, it's a big channel lonetree :)09:23
lonetreeok09:23
lonetreei'll go have a look later09:23
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lonetreehondje, now I have another issue09:23
hondjeWhat's up?09:24
lonetreemy wireless connection does not work on boot time09:24
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lonetreeI'm using ndiswrapper to drive up my card09:24
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hondjeI know nothing about wireless, my only wireless device is my pda09:24
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lonetreendiswrapper always start after network configuration09:24
lonetreewhich i think this is the prob09:24
lonetreenvm09:25
lonetreethanks anyway09:25
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paxlonetree: do you have 'auto ethX' somewhere in /etc/network/interfaces ?09:25
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lonetreepax , it got rid of that line09:26
lonetreehello?09:26
ndlovuI'm installing ubuntu, and it's asking which kernel I want to use - is there a difference between them?09:26
paxlonetree: why?09:26
lonetreesorry09:26
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adriyelndlovu, just choose the defaults09:26
adriyelfor now09:26
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lonetreei type in the wrong channel09:26
paxlonetree: that line is what brings the interface up at boot time09:27
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esc_apeso, how do you install windows programs with wine? I have the installer .exe & wine setup. what now?09:27
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sean_wierd.. ghosts in the machine :p09:27
lonetreepax,09:27
lonetree# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system09:27
lonetree# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).09:27
lonetree# The loopback network interface09:27
lonetreeauto lo09:27
lonetreeiface lo inet loopback09:27
lonetree# This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces.09:27
lonetree# They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.09:27
lonetreemapping hotplug09:27
lonetreescript grep09:28
lonetreemap wlan009:28
sean_anyways, does anyone know where i can find the breezy sources.list?09:28
lonetree# The primary network interface09:28
lonetreeiface wlan0 inet dhcp09:28
paxhit esc please09:28
lonetreewireless-essid STEALTHTUNNEL09:28
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lonetreewireless-key [3]  restricted 1111-1000-0011-1110-0000-1111-1009:28
lonetree#wireless-key 1111-1000-0011-1110-0000-1111-1009:28
lonetree# The secondary network interface09:28
lonetreeiface eth0 inet dhcp09:28
lonetreeauto wlan009:28
lonetreethis is my interfaces' content09:28
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carajeanlinux is a very funny little thing it either all or nothin works i have come to find out lol09:28
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sean_carajean, if it down work, we broke it, thats my theory09:29
carajeanyeah prolly09:30
Madpilotcarajean: what's currently broken?09:30
carajeanahh the old windows days stuff just works right out of the box :(09:30
sean_lol no it didnt09:30
lonetreepax?09:30
Bartimaeush09:30
carajeanmy video playback is to fast i have no sound09:30
sean_I rember spending lots of time with MSCDEX and audio drivers09:30
carajeani cant fast forward or skip chapters09:30
uthiniif anybody wants to have hot sexxy chat, pvt sum1 else09:31
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paxlonetree: yes now we know you can copy/paste please don't do it again the channel we have pastebin for that, put that line back where it was and restart netwroking09:31
sean_lol uthini, damn.. ruin my hopes :p lol09:31
jhallHello,  Nubie here!  In windows, when you add a program, it shows up in the start menu automaticaly.  How do I get the new programs to show up in the applications menu?09:31
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sean_so does anyone know where i can find the sources for breezy? wanna apt-get update and apt-get update-distro09:32
lonetreeI dun get wat you mean pax09:32
adriyeldelire09:32
sean_http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl  - Paste BIn09:32
sTr_0ke|h0Me|Synauw09:32
sTr_0ke|h0Me|Synhii all09:32
adriyelsean09:32
lonetreeI'm using wireless for my notebook and I dun want eth0 to start09:32
adriyelwe found the problem09:32
sean_yeah??? what was it?09:33
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adriyellibflash isn't 64 bit clean09:33
adriyelthey gotta replace/fix it in 5.1009:33
sean_ahhh, that would make sense too09:33
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adriyelI moved libflash into /backup09:33
sean_can u just disable it for now??09:33
adriyelit stopped crashing09:33
adriyelyeah, thats what I did09:33
sean_good stuff :)09:33
stretched_lobeshello09:33
adriyelif I had my way, I woulda moved it into /dev/null... *growls*09:34
sean_im going to keep that in mind and write in on the WIKI if thats ok09:34
adriyelplease do09:34
jhallHello?09:34
adriyelit makes firefox 99% unusable09:34
stretched_lobesI am trying to install vonage do I need to do anything special on ubuntu09:34
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adriyel5.04, Hoary,  AMD64, libflash-mozplugin.so09:34
HappyFooljhall: not all apps get added to the menu, unfortunately09:34
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HappyFooljhall: if you want to add them yourself, you can use something called 'smeg'09:34
HappyFool!smeg09:34
ubotusmeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.09:34
sean_alright :) thanks adriyel, ill document it and post it09:34
adriyelmv /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflash-mozplugin.so /backup/blah09:35
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adriyelthats the fix09:35
jhallthank you I'll try that09:35
adriyelresetting/deleting your profile solves nothing09:35
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jhallI have another question09:35
KyralAnyone know a good calander/organizer program?09:35
KyralPreferably GTK2 based?09:35
sean_booya, nice work adriyel , gonna save alot of users headaches09:35
Roskowould some one be able to help me setup a HP PSC Scanner that is across network?09:36
HappyFoolKyral: doesn't evolution have some calendering facilities?09:36
jhallHow are you able to make your replys directed to me (highlighted red)09:36
adriyel*nods* yeah, it basically disables all web browsing in Ubuntu 64 unless you install opera or something09:36
hondjejhall: just say your name09:36
jhalllol09:36
KyralHappyFool, I no like Evolution09:36
adriyelthe only alternative would be if you used Kubuntu 64 and used konq09:36
jhallwhat?09:36
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HappyFooljhall: i just prefix the message with your nick09:36
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jhalloh thanks09:36
KyralI mean a program JUST for that purpose09:36
sean_yeah i use opera here09:37
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jhallHappyFool: testing09:37
sean_its faster then firefox09:37
KyralI would use Sunbird09:37
jhallcool09:37
adriyelsean_: "nice work adriyel" thanks...a gdb backtrace helped us figure out it was flash being gay09:37
Kyralbut its not in Universe09:37
HappyFooljhall: it works ;). it's a function of your irc program, not irc itself09:37
adriyelapparently the reason it felt "random" is I was getting "random" flashvertisements, *laughs*09:37
sean_intense :) saves a gentoo install :p09:37
jhallTHIS IS SO COOL!!! (Can you tell i'm new...)09:37
adriyelso, everytime I randomly got an add with flash, it randomly crashed...lol.09:37
EasterSunshineubotu tell me about paste09:38
adriyelan ad09:38
sean_ROFL! hahah... gotta love the web these days.. I cant even take my 98 partition browsing, to much ads09:38
adriyellol *laughs*09:38
adriyelspam made my computer crash *cries*09:38
Roskowould some one be able to help me setup a HP PSC Scanner that is across network?09:38
adriyelthat should be in an anti-spam commercial09:38
adriyelalrighty, I g2g to work09:38
adriyelI'll ttyl guys09:38
sean_later adriyel09:38
adriyelthx for everything sean09:38
sean_have a good one :)09:38
adriyelyou too09:39
sean_np, anytime09:39
adriyelI'll be on a little after 9pm EST09:39
derFloi have different CDs (debian, ubuntu, knoppix, windows, bartPE). now i want to put them on a single DVD. Did anyone do that before and knows a good tutorial for creating such a multi boot DVD?09:39
adriyel.afk.09:39
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fartmonsterhey09:39
derFlomy google-searches don't give me much help09:39
gooktimeever install linux in the pale moonlight09:39
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fartmonsterlol09:39
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fartmonsterCan anyone help me witha problem I've had with the live CD?09:40
ivanodenhey, anyone know non-default ubuntu repositories?09:40
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sean_derFlo,  i hate to say it, but try nero?  simple, easy, and should do the trick, but then again, that is windows :p09:40
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requiem_ok09:40
requiem_I know my problem now09:41
requiem_I want to edit xorg.conf09:41
ivanodenon ubuntuguide, i see a lot of software can be installed via apt-get09:41
requiem_but if I do it by hand X wont start09:41
derFloa don't have enough space on my windows-partition and i don't have nero09:41
sean_ubuntuguide is unsportted, use the wiki09:41
fartmonsterWhen I load up the LiveCD everything goes great until Gnome loads.09:41
ivanodenbut the ubuntu (fresh install), does not have09:41
fartmonsterThen, my laptop screen turns off09:41
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darkheartivanoden If you visited that site, you should have noticed they show you how to add more repos.09:42
ivanodenuse wiki?09:42
requiem_does dpkg-reconfigure xorg-common a valid command ?09:42
Madpilotivanoden: you need to enable other repos09:42
EasterSunshinecan someone look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1561 and suggest any changes to it?09:42
requiem_is this to reconfigure X ?09:42
fartmonsterThe welcome sound plays...  When I click the mouse I hear sounds but I have no display....09:42
Madpilot!tell ivanoden about repos09:42
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sean_http://wiki.ubuntu.com09:42
ivanodenok09:42
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Madpilotbbl09:42
ivanodenhow to add more repo09:42
fartmonster..>?09:42
chinahas anyone succefully installed oracle 10g?09:42
HappyFoolEasterSunshine: looks ok, i guess. why flex-old ?09:43
ivanodeni've receive help private09:43
ivanodenthanks09:43
Jowirequiem_: i believe the correct way is: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:43
EasterSunshineHappyFool: dunno, thats what the guide said http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4509:43
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mirakare most of the recent ethernet card self detecting if the cable is crossed or flat ?09:43
fartmonsterCan anyone help me>09:43
requiem_Jowi, thanks09:43
requiem_:)09:43
HappyFoolEasterSunshine: ok. the description says you should only use it if you have old-style lex files09:43
Jowinp requiem_09:44
HappyFoolEasterSunshine: no big deal, i imagine09:44
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aromanhi09:44
EasterSunshineHappyFool: ok i will execute that command now, thx09:44
ryanjahas anyone have trouble installing monodevelop on unbuntu09:44
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fartmonsterWhen I load up the LiveCD everything goes great until Gnome loads.Then, my laptop screen turns off.The welcome sound plays... When I click the mouse I hear sounds but I have no display....  Anyone know whats up?  I know I didn't set the resolution too high09:45
ryanja*ubuntu09:45
requiem_one question09:45
requiem_how do I restart X in ubuntu09:45
requiem_?09:45
requiem_ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't go09:45
fartmonster.....09:45
HappyFoolrequiem_: log out, and type 'ctrl-alt-backspace'09:45
EasterSunshinesudo killall x && startx09:45
requiem_with just keys09:46
HappyFoolrequiem_: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'09:46
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diofanWhen I load up the LiveCD everything goes great until Gnome loads.Then, my laptop screen turns off.The welcome sound plays... When I click the mouse I hear sounds but I have no display.... Anyone know whats up? I know I didn't set the resolution too high09:46
requiem_all of that solutions include writing09:46
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requiem_if X crashes09:46
requiem_I can't write09:46
HappyFoolrequiem_: try 'ctrl-alt-f1' to get to a text console09:46
requiem_HappyFool, when X crashes it doesn't go09:47
requiem_:|09:48
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sean_diofan, tried doing a ctrl-alt-backspace after it loaded? it will reload X, might let it kick in to go bug hunting09:48
HappyFoolrequiem_: if neither 'ctrl-alt-f1' or 'ctrl-alt-backspace' work, i usually reboot09:48
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requiem_HappyFool, just now I tried ctrl + alt + backspace09:48
diofanNaw, man.  I'm a total n00b I don't know anything.09:48
requiem_X is not crashed09:48
requiem_X is still working :\09:48
HappyFoolompaul: seen this? http://www.linuxhd.com/ubuntufaq/faqi386/C/index.html09:48
sean_alll good man, we were all nub once...  id try that, try lowering ure resolution, and refresh rates09:48
requiem_brb09:48
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ompaulHappyFool, no just going to look now09:49
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BollocksMacenzieHow do I open Microsoft libraries (.cab)...?09:49
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reiki_workyet *another* dumb question... if I want to use fetchmail... and I know how to START fetchmail... do I simply have to put a .fetchmailrc in my /home/reiki/ folder and fetchmail loks around to see who has a fetchmailrc in their folder?  OR... do I INVOKE fetchmail from my user account?09:50
bfreeanyone know can you specify the keyboard and language on the kernel command line with the livecd? (i.e. d-i preseeding from command line)?09:50
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HappyFoolBollocksMacenzie: i'd try double-clicking on them in nautilus; if that doesn't work, there's a package called 'cabextract' in universe09:50
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BollocksMacenzieHappyFool: Well I tried clicking on them, duh!09:51
HappyFoolBollocksMacenzie: cabextract it is, then09:51
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ompaulHappyFool, you know that looks good in terms of what we discussed now if we could get the bots merged with that then *bonus* points all around09:51
esunshineplz09:52
HappyFoolwell, if nothing else, we could just point people at that when the breezy comes out; should answer many questions09:52
esunshineplz help i used ctrl alt f1 to bring up a text shell and i duon't know how to get out of it...no09:53
HappyFoolesunshine: alt-f709:54
EasterSunshineHappyFool: whew...thx i was stuck on telnet for a sec there09:54
HappyFoolEasterSunshine: heh09:54
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HappyFoolEasterSunshine: i'm impressed ;)09:55
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EasterSunshineHappyFool: nah...the irc protocol is pretty straightforward09:55
benkong2hey all I want to be able to install source tarballs on my laptop get an error when I run ./configure says I need automake. what are the files for developer tools?09:55
derFlook, i found a tutorial09:56
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derFlothx, bye09:56
darkheartbenkong2 apt-get install build-essentials09:56
EasterSunshinebenkong2: i thnk in a package called build-essentials09:56
HappyFoolbuild-essential09:56
benkong2darkheart, EasterSunshine ; thanks09:56
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EasterSunshinebenkong2: before you compile and intsall from source, make sure its not in the repos its will save you a lot of trouble installing with apt09:57
jhallIs there a way to "Force Quit" or "End Process" in Ubuntu through the GUI09:57
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HappyFoolhmm. it looks like automake is not a dependency of build-essential anyway09:57
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benkong2could it be another pkg name error couldn't find build-essentials09:57
darkheartNeither is autoconf I think.09:58
EasterSunshinejhall: do you know about xkill or kill or killall commands?09:58
HappyFooljhall: applicatins -> system tools -> system monitor09:58
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HappyFoolbenkong2: build-essential09:58
HappyFoolnot essentials09:58
benkong2or maybe I need another repo09:58
token41hi everyone09:58
benkong2ok09:58
jhallHappyFool: Thanks again!!09:58
Bartimaeusanyone know of an easy website builder program like yahoo's SiteBuilder that works on linux?09:58
EasterSunshinei use vi to make websites...09:58
HappyFooljhall: np ;)09:59
Bartimaeusvi?09:59
token41:)09:59
EasterSunshineBartimaeus: its by no means easy. it involves typing up html code09:59
benkong2hmmm... already got that installed. I am tying to install mysql-gui administrator and query browser on hoary. synaptic fails09:59
HappyFoolpls. viitor isn't even a word! use ed.09:59
Bartimaeusoh, i only know a little html09:59
HappyFoolbenkong2: is that maybe 'mysql-admin' ?10:00
HappyFool!info mysql-admin10:00
ubotumysql-admin: (GUI tool for intuitive MySQL administration), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.18-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 616 kB, Installed size: 1688 kB10:00
Bartimaeusis there an easy website builder?10:00
darkheart!nvu10:00
ubotunvu is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.10:00
benkong2yes mysql-admin synaptic shows its installed but there  is no menu icon etc.10:00
HappyFoolBartimaeus: try maybe bluefish10:00
Bartimaeusokay10:01
lonetreeBartimaeus , you can try NVU10:01
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HappyFoolbenkong2: ah, maybe you can add it to the menu with smeg (see below)10:01
HappyFool!smeg10:01
ubotusomebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.10:01
Bartimaeuswhere do you get nvu and bluefish10:01
benkong2ok checking.....10:01
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HappyFoolfor nvu see ubotu above; bluefish is in the repositories (i.e., via apt-get)10:01
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token41EasterSunshine: but do you think that it is usefull for advanced web programers to use only vi???10:02
ompauldoes ubuntu have a need for something like this?  http://volatile.debian.net/10:02
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HappyFoolompaul: doesn't hoary-security kind of fulfil this role?10:03
EasterSunshinetoken41: no, but it just makes you feel cool10:03
HappyFoolompaul: not that i'm that knowledgeable about the update processes etc10:03
EasterSunshinetoken41: for real websites, i would use kate, sed, msfrontpage and for testing, apache2, firefox,10:03
ompaulHappyFool, I don't know really I need to read more10:03
jhallHappyFool:  General troubleshooting question...If I just installed a program and it just froze-up on me, could it ever be because I didn't "Reboot" or is that not an issue with Linux?10:03
ompaulHappyFool, I'll let you know10:03
EasterSunshinetoken41: i am not proud of using msfrontpage...if there were a linux parallel to it, i do not know about it, but i would use it10:04
BollocksMacenzieHappyFool: Cabextract didn't work. Needed unshield...10:04
gigaclonEasterSunshine, Im sure there is10:04
HappyFooljhall: you rarely need to reboot in linux, unless you update the kernel ('linux-image') or maybe major system libraries ('libc6', or similar)10:04
darkheartEasterSunshine I've heard nvu is quite good.10:04
jhallHappyFool: THX10:04
delireEasterSunshine: try http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/10:04
EasterSunshinedarkheart: well if it has a com at the end of its domain name, i don't feel comfortable with it10:05
delireEasterSunshine: my gf enjoys it very much10:05
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martinQuestion: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?10:05
benkong2here is my error using synaptic. "mysql-query-browser:  Depends: mysql-query-browser-common (=1.1.7-1~5.04ubp1) but 1.1.4-1ubuntu1 is to be installed" Do I need another repo to make this work?10:05
HappyFoolBollocksMacenzie: sorry, my knowledge of cab files is very limited10:05
EasterSunshinedelire: i will install it right now10:05
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delireEasterSunshine: bear in mind it is a KDE application.10:06
token41EasterSunshine: try dreamweaver10:06
EasterSunshinei have installed a staggering 100 mb today on my poor little 8 gig disk10:06
EasterSunshinedelire: i am on kubuntu already10:06
deliretoken41: what's that?10:06
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EasterSunshinedelire: its macromedia's web authoring app10:06
delireEasterSunshine: ahah, well it will integrate very nicely then.10:06
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delireoh10:06
token41EasterSunshine: it is very usefull for beginners to write in text editors only ... i started with it tooo10:06
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alunocomo fao para criar uma sala10:07
EasterSunshinetoken41: i need to find out what theskinsfactory writes their designs in...those designs were astonishing10:07
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darkheart!es10:07
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:07
kijohu, is there anyway to communicate with the persons i have on msn and icq on linux.. any special prog which can handle them ?10:08
EasterSunshinethat does not look like spanish... is not a spanish letter10:08
robotgeekkijo: gaim10:08
BollocksMacenzieHeppyFool: Aparently there are 2 types, rule of thumb... If one prog don't work the other probably will!10:08
darkheartEasterSunshine Doesn't look like any letter through my terminal.10:08
kijowhat can gaim handle ?10:08
kijorobotgeek10:08
robotgeekkijo: msn,yahoo,and a bunch of others10:08
neighborleeEasterSunshine, I use nvu for most things and it works well..mozilla composer is nice too ( which nvu is based on ) and has a css-plugin,,of course w3c also has 'amaya' :http://www.w3.org/Amaya/ < which is nice too...of course quanta (qt) and bluefish(gtk) are good tools as well ;-0010:08
token41EasterSunshine: i dont know theskinfactory10:09
kijokoo10:09
kijokool10:09
robotgeekkijo: you can even do irc with the new ones!10:09
kijohow ?10:09
kijo0o10:10
robotgeekkijo: it supports irc protocol also10:10
jhallHappyFool:  Sorry to bother you again, but what was the name of that Applications Menu Editor again?10:10
mihaii just mounted a ntfs partition as root, what do i need to do so my user can read it ?10:10
robotgeekjhall: smeg10:10
jhallthx10:10
EasterSunshinemihai: pass -o ro,umask=022 to it10:10
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HappyFooljhall: smeg10:11
HappyFool!smeg10:11
ubotuit has been said that smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.10:11
EasterSunshinemihai: and if that still does do it, add in a uid=1000,gid=1000 where uid and gid are your uid and gid10:11
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EasterSunshineneighborlee: you sound like a really experienced web designer10:12
neighborleeEasterSunshine, I am10:12
neighborleeEasterSunshine, I enjoy it alot but yeah i've done my share10:12
EasterSunshineneighborlee: i will probably install every single one of those apps by tomorrow10:12
neighborleehehe10:12
mihaiEasterSunshine: mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/e -o ro,umask=022 doesn't work10:12
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chrismy #blendercoders10:13
delirechrismy: so did you manage to compile it?10:13
mihaiEasterSunshine: it's not correct syntax10:13
delirechrismy: i had to eat10:13
EasterSunshinemihai: you left out -t ntfs10:13
EasterSunshinemihai: but still that shouldn't make it wrong syntax...10:13
chrismydelire, sorry yes i understand10:13
EasterSunshinemihai: this is what i have in my mtab for an ntfs: /dev/hda1 /mnt/Ridley ntfs ro,umask=0222,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 010:14
mihaiEasterSunshine: well i don't want a fstab solution, because i'll have to reboot, i don't want reboot10:15
EasterSunshineand the mount script reads `sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/Ridley -o ro,umask=0222,uid=silvertear,gid=silvertear`10:15
gigaclonmy sound quality is crap10:15
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randyHello All10:15
chrismydelire, i am installing something here aptitude install libsdl-dev10:15
darkheartmihai Having something in your fstab doesn't mean you have to reboot to use it.10:15
gigaclonis a there a way to improve sound quality with ALSA?10:16
darkheartmihai In fact, it's easier to mount if it is in your fstab.10:16
crimsungigaclon: cat /proc/asound/modules10:16
ompaulHappyFool, okay it appears not to be, I am thinking of something like the updates of the files for a spam filter or an anti virus filter10:16
delirechrismy: yes, you'll need to install all the development libraries in the file that called INSTALL. eg where they say libpng, you'll need to install libpng3-dev. then you can './configure && make && sudo make install'10:16
mihaioh i see, thanks, i fixed it by appending -t ntfs10:16
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randyI am running Breezy Colony 3 (with all updates) and get this error when trying to import photos from my digital camera: 'error in io library Could not claim USB device'  Any ideas?10:16
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JNjust downloaded ubuntu and burnt to a cd at 4x speed and checked the md5 and it all worked10:17
mihaiany ideas how much ram does a bare gnome take ? not the ubuntu one10:17
JNhowever i get a debootstrap error10:17
JN=/10:17
mihaii get 250mbytes of ram usage !! :(10:17
ompaulHappyFool, or even something like mozilla with its huge amount of changes - something like that does not really belong in a stable tree, we have a reasonable expectation that stuff in main is stable and really should not change during the life of the release if you see my point10:17
delirechrismy: that said, i can't speak highly enough of the 'scons' build process. eg to configure compile and install blender type 'scons && scons install'10:17
reiki_workyet *another* dumb question... if I want to use fetchmail... and I know how to START fetchmail... do I simply have to put a .fetchmailrc in my /home/reiki/ folder and fetchmail loks around to see who has a fetchmailrc in their folder?  OR... do I INVOKE fetchmail from my user account?10:17
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reiki_workack10:17
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EasterSunshinemihai: i think it takes more ram if you have it10:17
EasterSunshinemihai: otherwise, it'll drop it in the swap10:17
chrismydelire, pretty confusing...10:17
delirereiki_work: just run it, or set it to a cron.10:18
chrismydelire, hold on10:18
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delirechrismy: this is the first time your compiling software on linux. it will seem very confusing. hehe if you think this is bad, try compiling blender on windows (yuk).10:18
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darkheartreiki_work You can do either/or I believe. You can set it to fetch after a certain period or just call it explicitly.10:18
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gigacloncrimsun, didn't work, the sound in my program has a lot of noise it in10:19
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chrismydelire, heheh yeah i know i am dying! :P windows???? yewwwwwww10:19
mihaiEasterSunshine: have what ?10:19
reiki_workdarkheart: will it just automagically find a.fetchmailrc in my home folder?10:19
crimsungigaclon: you never answered my question10:19
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gigaclon0 snd_intel8x010:20
gigaclonsorry10:20
delirechrismy: you are being quite brave ;)10:20
darkheartreiki_work Not sure actually, I'm sure you can google for that. Might have to call it explicitly the first time or something.10:20
randyWhen running gthumb like this 'sudo gthumb' I can then import my photos.10:20
crimsungigaclon: and are you using the ALSA version in Hoary?10:20
gigacloni gueess10:20
chrismydelire, huh? i am being quite brave???? how so?10:20
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crimsungigaclon: then try using alsa-source10:20
EasterSunshinemihai: the more ram you have, the more it will be willing to take up10:21
crimsun!tell gigaclon about alsa-source10:21
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reiki_workdarkheart: been a long time since I did this. It's really a single-user machine so I think I can use a system .fetchmailrc in /etc .... can't remember... must install more ram (the 52-year old stuff seems to be giving out )10:21
EasterSunshinemihai: its an attempt to be faster10:21
delirereiki_work see the line 61 in /etc/init.d/fetchmail. the '.. -d 300' is the poll interval.10:21
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reiki_workdelire: thanks.. I can look there10:21
to0omdoes anybody of you know how to turn acpi on in ubuntu? i had to turn it off before the installation because otherwise it wouldn't have worked10:21
chrismydelire, come on what do you mean i am being quiet brave???10:22
delirechrismy: compiling software from source is brave for a new user10:22
reiki_workdelire: I just wasn't sure how fetchmail would know to look in a user's home directory at their fetchmailrc10:22
jorgp2what is a good gnome based bittorrent client?10:22
darkheartreiki_work I'm a fan of putting personal settings in my ~ dir...Even if it is a single user machine =)10:22
reiki_workdarkheart: ok... man fetchmail it is then :)10:22
chrismydelire, erm..no new user compile before anything?10:22
delirereiki_work: i use a ~/.fetchmailrc and have 'set daemon 300' to set my poll interval10:22
reiki_workdelire: ok thanks10:22
chrismydelire, how about those people you teach?10:23
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delirechrismy: blender can be a little tricky to compile. my students certainly never compile blender. they grab the debian package.10:23
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randyThe camera is detected fine.  Is this a USB Problem?10:23
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d2dchatwhere are fonts located ?10:23
delirechrismy: you are on an amd64 however, there is no packaged blender for that platform. i don't even think there is a statically linked version.10:24
chrismydelire, so as i. but they are having AFAIK blender . that is 64bit but alpha version10:25
delirechrismy: ahah10:25
chrismydelire, who are your students???!!! MEET ME! i will lecture them how to learn!10:25
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chrismydelire, are they adults?10:25
delirechrismy: yes of course10:26
tristanmiked2dchat, usr/share/fonts10:26
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d2dchatthanks:)10:26
chrismydelire, wow adults are afraid? hmm10:26
tristanmikeyup, yup10:27
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dJNEvShello10:27
aromanI am having a problem with apt-get. I added the ubuntu-backports hoary-extras repositories (main restricted universe multiverse). I do apt-get update, I see it downloads the package lists, however I cannot install java - j2re1.5. The package *is* there, i can see it in a directory listing with my web browser of the backports archive, but apt-get says the package could not be found!10:27
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delirechrismy: anyway, install all the development packages for the libraries listed in INSTALL and try a 'scons && sudo scons install' then try 'blender' from the command line. you should be in business.10:27
delirearoman: apt-cache search j2re. is it there?10:28
dJNEvSwhat is the default root password? just installed ubuntu, but couldnt enter a root pass in installation10:28
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deliredJNEvS: there is none10:28
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dJNEvSuhu10:28
dJNEvShuh10:28
dJNEvS?10:28
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sean_delire: you know where i can find the apt sources list for breezy?10:28
darkheartdJNEvS Use your own password.10:28
vectradailhaalquem e do brasil10:28
deliredJNEvS: use sudo, or *if you must* 'sudo passwd root'.10:28
vectradailhaalquem e do brasil10:28
dJNEvSk10:28
Xenguy!root10:28
ubotusomebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:28
vectradailhaalquem e do brasil10:28
deliresean_: no, i don't use breezy. i'll use it when it's ready.10:29
sean_lol alrgiht :) thx anyway10:29
robotgeekaroman: try using another mirror for the backports10:29
dJNEvSthanks10:29
aromandelire, no it is not10:29
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redguydelire: you still here? urge to help I suppose? :-)10:29
aromanrobotgeek, hmm I'll try10:29
delireredguy: hehe late here, have to go soon.10:29
gigaclonthanks, crimsun10:30
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BarryGreetings. I'm trying to install Idle, the Python IDE, in hoary. I've been to http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/python/idle but the file I downloaded doesn't seem to have anything in it. I'm at a loss as to how to install it.10:30
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chrismydelire, well i am trying with the help of the blender developer and a coder himself10:31
chrismydelire, i think you better.....before you get kicked coz.....are...10:31
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ivanodeni see that http://packages.ubuntu.com/ have a lot of packages. is there any way to use it as a repository10:31
robotgeekBarry: get the listing of files install by doing dpkg -L <package-name> and see where the file is10:31
crimsunBarry: it should be as straightforward as 'sudo aptitude install idle-python2.4'10:32
delirechrismy: ?10:32
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chrismydelire, yes?10:32
GeoffDeGeoffHi, does anyone know of any reasons why I can no longer play wmv files (I get the problem windows media 9 codecs not installed), however it is installed and I had been playing wmv players fine. I have tried switching to gstreamer from xine but no look10:32
GeoffDeGeoffanyone any ideas?10:32
randyCan someone tell me what the 'mount' point is for a usb camera?10:32
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sammiehi10:32
ivanodeni see that http://packages.ubuntu.com/ have a lot of packages. is there any way to use it as a repository10:32
delirechrismy: the sentence you wrote above was strange. no matter. good luck.10:32
ivanodeni see that http://packages.ubuntu.com/ have a lot of packages. is there any way to use it as a repository?10:32
naliothGeoffDeGeoff: can you play the same wmv that you played b4?10:32
crimsunrandy: it's usually a mass storage device, so /dev/sdXX10:33
GeoffDeGeoffnalioth - I cant play any, can play mpegs ok but no wmvs10:33
naliothivanoden: they are all the pkgs you can access using the existing official repos10:33
crimsunivanoden: that's only the Web presentation of archive.ubuntu.com10:33
randycrimsum: Thanks10:33
Barrycrimsun -- that seems to be doing it. Thanks!10:33
sammiehiiiio10:33
naliothGeoffDeGeoff: have you played wmv b4 now? on your ubuntu box?10:33
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ivanodenoh,10:33
GeoffDeGeoffnalioth, yeah it used to be working fine10:33
aromanhmm I itried using another backports mirror, but I still cannot install sun-j2re1.5 package... apt-get just doesn't see it! :(10:34
aromanand yes, I ran apt-get update10:34
crimsunwhy do that?10:34
crimsunyou can just create your own sun-j2re1.510:34
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ivanodenbut i search and find out acroread ( but sudo apt-get install acroread doesn't work)10:34
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ivanodenwhy's that?10:34
CoyctecmIs it wise to use backports?10:34
sammiehello everyone10:34
CoyctecmI never used them..10:34
naliothGeoffDeGeoff: so the same wmvs you've played b4, no longer work?10:35
sean_ok... here comes breezy lol, wish me luck10:35
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tristanmikearoman, they are from the extras, have you been here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport ?10:35
crimsunCoyctecm: there are different answers. Personally, if you tend to want the latest and greatest, you're probably better off using the devel branch.10:35
aromansean_, bye bye :P10:35
sammieHELLLLLLLLLO10:35
sean_lol yeah i know lol10:35
ivanodencrimsun, but i search and find out acroread ( but sudo apt-get install acroread doesn't work)10:35
GeoffDeGeoffnalioth - yup. Its very annoying10:35
aromantristanmike, I have the extras repository:10:35
aromanhoary-extras10:35
ivanodencan you tell me why?10:35
Coyctecmcrimsun: I agree =)10:35
crimsunivanoden: did you check the other repositories?10:35
ivanodencrimsun10:35
sammieam i invisible?10:35
ivanodenother repo?10:35
ivanodenexample?10:36
BuzW Not to me, sammie.10:36
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crimsunsammie: did you ask a question?...10:36
sammiecheers10:36
redguysammie: you expect 523 people on this channel to reply 'hello' to your hello ?10:36
ivanodeni have remove # from the source.list10:36
crimsunivanoden: hoary-extras...10:36
delirehehe10:36
deliresammie: hi10:36
sammieno sorry, just wanted to talk :(10:36
ivanodenis it enought10:36
sammieim new10:36
Coyctecmcrimsum: what about universe and multiverse?10:36
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naliothGeoffDeGeoff: yes, we hates advances when advances break stuff10:36
cybxsammie: new to what10:36
chapeaurougeanyone running ubuntu on enlightenment?10:36
crimsunCoyctecm: they're Ubuntu repos, so they should be fine.10:36
sammieubuntu10:36
randycrimsum: Odd.  I have no sdxx in /dev.  I only have ide drives.10:37
GeoffDeGeoffnalioth - eh?10:37
crimsunchapeaurouge: err, the other way around?10:37
ivanodenor where i can get other repositories?10:37
sammiesorry redguy10:37
chapeaurougeya10:37
cybxsammie: so any questions, i mean, what do you want to talk about exactly?10:37
CoyctecmOh they are ubuntu repos...I was thinking that they are debian repos :P10:37
Coyctecmgood =)10:37
naliothGeoffDeGeoff: if wmv played b4, and now they do not (the same file(s)), then an update seems to have bodgered your wmv capability10:37
delireivanoden: the ones you have including multiverse should be more than sufficient.10:37
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GeoffDeGeoffnalioth - any ideas what I can try to resolve10:37
sammieits ok ill just read what everone putting :)10:37
redguysammie: no problem :-)10:38
deliresammie: nothing wrong with being new.10:38
ivanodendelire, can you show me that?10:38
sammie:)10:38
naliothGeoffDeGeoff: no idea, i was just gettin more info out of you for others to see the problem10:38
delireivanoden: have a look in the wiki for examples. there's plenty there about this.10:38
sean_if i die... it means breezy was  a no go lol10:38
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tristanmikearoman, can you place your sources.list on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/10:38
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iceman-AMD64whats best video player for ubuntu10:39
redguy!tell ivanoden about repos10:39
SolidRaveni reached a new level in trying to get ndiswrapper to work10:39
CoyctecmI use totem-xine10:39
SolidRavennow if i type modprobe ndiswrapper my comp freezes10:39
butcherbirdiceman: I like VLC :)10:39
iceman-AMD64cant get mpg's to play in totam10:39
MrBrdoSolidRaven read the ndiswrapper wiki10:40
delireivanoden: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu10:40
SolidRavenMrBrdo > i did that10:40
SolidRavenhow do you think i actualy got it to load a driver :p10:40
MrBrdoSolidRaven do you have that 8k stuff enabled in the kernel?10:40
cybxI've got some trouble configuring my MIDI sound. I'm not sure if my soundcard is capable of playing midi on its own, but I learned about some software synthesizers(do you write it like that) I should be able to use, but that doesn't work out somehow. Is anybody arround how installed MIDI manually??10:40
IcemanV9i cannot burn 700 cdrw disc, but can do 650 cdrw. is that bug on hardware OR software??10:40
ivanodenthanks, redguy :D10:40
iceman-AMD64totam will not play mpg's ...10:41
SolidRavencybx > what sound card do you have?10:41
MrBrdofor me it worked without having to change the ubuntu kernel (hoary 5.4), but i compiled the package myself (for amd64)10:41
aromantristanmike, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/156210:41
crimsuncybx: check the midi pages on alsa.opensrc.org10:41
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MrBrdoiceman-AMD64: there is an entry for that in the wiki10:41
SolidRavenc-media cards need the drivers :)10:41
dbernar1hm...I have the right md5sum for the breezy colony 3 install CD, but when installing the base system, I get an error...and cant install the base system...WOnder what to do...10:41
cybxI don't know exactly, it's an onboard soundcard, crimsun: do I need alsa, or is there away of using OSS?10:41
deliredoes anyone know if transcode now runs on the amd64 platform?10:41
dbernar1I may just try burning the CD again,..10:42
dbernar1...;)10:42
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aromantristanmike, find anything wrong? :(10:42
MrBrdoSolidRaven try to compile the package yourself.. i think ndiswrapper has the "debian" folder.. (so you just do make, debuild) and dpkg -i new_package.deb10:42
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SolidRavendelire > you can run 32 bit ubuntu on 64bit machine normaly10:42
shinuhow could i reinstall grub when i cant load linux on a laptop without a floppy drive?10:43
delireSolidRaven: yes, transcode was an exception to this i seem to recall10:43
dbernar1crimsun: do you know whether there is a difference between the packages installed as base system during a server and a desktop install?10:43
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MrBrdoSolidRaven but it takes a lot of disk space ;)10:43
tristanmikearoman, you have the wrong backports10:43
MrBrdooh sorry10:43
MrBrdomisinterpreted10:43
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tristanmikearoman, that is to say, it is different than mine and mine works10:43
cvrefugeeHow do you display the local disks when in Live mode?10:44
crimsundbernar1: yes, there's a big difference between ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop10:44
aromantristanmike, umm.. so what's yours?10:44
tristanmikearoman, assuming you're Hoary x8610:44
aromantristanmike, yup, hoary x8610:44
MrBrdocvrefugee by going to Nautilus?10:44
dbernar1crimsun: in the base install as well? Ok, Ill try that then, I guess.. is there a wayu to check whether an ISO was burned onto a CD correct?10:44
crimsundbernar1: md5sum hopefully matches10:45
tristanmikearoman, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1563 the difference is in the backports, check you addresses vs. mine10:45
dbernar1crimsun: ya, checked.10:45
dbernar1for the ISO, and the one they have shown on the web site, that is..10:45
aromantristanmike, I had the mirrormax mirror and that didn't work either! :(10:46
dbernar1those two match, my ISO file, and the md5sum they have shown for that ISO on the website.10:46
tristanmikearoman, it could have just been down, it worked for me10:46
tristanmikearoman, hmmm10:46
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TrackilizerJust how stable is the new Ubuntu version?10:47
ivanodenredguy, i follow the wiki how to, but i check and can't find out acroread from synaptics (updated) but it appear on packages.ubuntu.com10:47
TrackilizerIs it worth updating to?10:47
delireivanoden: did you update?10:47
ivanodenupdated10:47
dbernar1crimsun: there is a md5sum.txt file on the CD... it contains a long list, does that have any information for me?10:48
Trackilizeror just stick to my current version of Ubuntu?10:48
ivanodenit's only acroread-plugin and mozilla-acroread10:48
redguyivanoden: let me see...10:48
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robotgeek!breezy10:48
ubotuI guess breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/10:48
ivanodenredguy, you can see it on http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=acroread&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all10:48
cvrefugeeMrBrdo, all I can see is cdrom and Filesystem10:48
MrBrdoso go to filesystem10:49
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MrBrdothat's yer disk10:49
TrackilizerWell, what will be the major updates in the new version?10:49
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tristanmikeivanoden, not according to my synaptic, it's a stand alone with plugins aside10:49
MrBrdooh10:49
MrBrdomaybe you mean windows partitions?10:49
MrBrdoor linux?10:49
ivanodenstand alone10:49
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SolidRavenhow mutch mb is the download of the update from ubuntu 5.04 to 5.1010:49
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ivanodenwhat does it mean10:49
cvrefugeeYes, windows partitions - NTFS10:49
SolidRaveni have like a bandwidht limit of 8.5gb / month so i need to look out10:49
ivanodencan i install it via apt-get10:50
TrackilizerCan one add more GUIs to the system?10:50
MrBrdoSolidRaven there's 5.10 out?10:50
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aromantristanmike, dude.. I used your *IDENTICAL* list and I just CAN'T install sun-j2re1.5... This is WEIRD10:50
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redguyivanoden: well, it says there that acroread is in multiverse repository. you sure that you have it enabled? also dod you do sudo apt-get update after changing the sorces.list file?10:50
Trackilizeradd KDE to the Gnome i use atm10:50
JuhazSolidRaven, that would depend on how much you've got installed, no?10:50
tristanmikeivanoden, that I have acroread AND the acroread-mozilla plugin, they are seperate10:50
MrBrdoaroman maybe you're on a different architecture (like amd64)10:50
Trackilizerso, all i would have to do is use Synaptic to install KDE?10:50
cvrefugeeIs it possible to view NTFS partitions from the Live DVD?10:50
SolidRavenJuhaz > standart install + ndiswrapper ;)10:50
delirecvrefugee: yes10:50
MrBrdoJuhaz i think 5.10 only means base..10:50
MrBrdocvrefugee yes10:51
aromanMrBrdo, if I were on amd64, I would be very perplexed why it installed on my x86 machine...10:51
mitsuhikoSolidRaven: it's called standard :)10:51
MrBrdocvrefugee read-only10:51
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ivanodenredguy, i had do sudo apt-get update10:51
MrBrdoaroman no need to be rude.. i'm trying to help10:51
ivanodenthen sudo apt-get install acroread10:51
SolidRavenmitsuhiko > if you know english is like my fourth language i think i do quite well ;)10:51
ivanodenwhat's wrong?10:51
aromanMrBrdo, didn't mean to be rude.., sorry10:51
MrBrdoaroman i didn't know you were on x8610:51
tristanmikeivanoden, acroread is not dependent on the mozilla plugin. I thought you said that you meant you couldn't get "acroread" and just the plugins...if not, sorry10:51
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cvrefugeeWhere exactly can I see these partitions?  I don't mean to be such a n00b at this :(10:51
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aromanMrBrdo, just that this is very frustrating because it should work (as it did many times before one almost identical machines)10:51
MrBrdocvrefugee you have to mount them10:52
tristanmikearoman, not in synaptic?10:52
aromantristanmike, no.. tried synaptic as well10:52
dbernar1aroman: what package?10:52
ivanodentristanmike: iknow that it's not depend on mozila plugins10:52
robotgeekso to upgrade to breezy, all i need to do is replace all hoary by breezy in my source.list, and apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?10:52
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tristanmikeivanoden, sorry, that's how I interpreted it, my apologies10:52
aromanrobotgeek, plus getting it to work after that...10:52
ivanodenthe 2 packs above is all isee when search with keyword acroread10:52
delire(crazy kids upgrading all over the place)10:52
ivanodenok, thank also10:53
ivanodentristanmake10:53
dbernar1robotgeek: all you need is a separate partition, to install breezy onto, cause you are likely to break your csystem...10:53
aromanrobotgeek, if you have a desktop system, it will most likely just work. For a laptop.. I don't know...10:53
robotgeekdbernar1: i have a separate /home10:53
tristanmikeivanoden, when I search acroread, I get 5 files10:53
dbernar1robotgeek: ok, back up your /var/www as well.10:53
aromandbernar1, sun-j2re1.510:53
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robotgeekdbernar1: don't have one!10:54
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delireor latest != greatest10:54
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dbernar1aroman: well, thats in hoary-extras, and nowhere else. Follow the instructions on the wiki.ubuntu.com/Java fail-proof.10:54
ivanodenreally10:54
ivanoden?10:54
icewti just installed xfce4. what is the easiest way to use it?10:54
dbernar1aroman: just may have to read it a few more times...10:54
robotgeekokay, maybe later...i'll put it off for a week or so :)10:54
ivanodenhave i add the repo not enough?10:54
dbernar1aroman: is this computer a normal x86 arch?10:54
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aromandbernar1, I've followed the instructions. I added the repositories. The computer is x86. apt-get update works with no errors.10:55
MrBrdodelire so how is breezy? is it still unstable\testing or stable?10:55
icewt!xfce410:55
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, icewt10:55
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icewt!xfce10:55
ubotuxfce is, like, totally, a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/10:55
robotgeek!info xfce410:55
ubotuxfce4: (The Xfce4 Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.1.1-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB10:55
dbernar1aroman: ok, lets do it together, cause this is a few seconds, really.10:55
aromandbernar1, so I thought a few hours ago...10:55
delireMrBrdo: it's 7 months pregnant. 2 to go.10:55
redguyivanoden: paste your sources.list to ubuntu.pastebin.com please.10:55
dbernar1aroman: :)10:55
ivanodentristanmike: i just add hoary-extras repo and remove last 2# from source.list10:56
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aromandbernar1, I've done this many times before, but never have I had this problem... it seems that none of the packages on backports show up as they should10:56
ivanodenis it enough?10:56
MrBrdoah so after 2 months it will be a "real" release?10:56
ivanodenredguy, ok i will10:56
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delireMrBrdo: October 20 i am guessing10:56
MrBrdocool, thx10:56
dbernar1aroman: add the following line to your sources.list. deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted10:57
dbernar1then update your package list.10:57
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delireMrBrdo: until the stable, official release Ubuntu Breezy will be a distribution only for testing.10:57
dbernar1then, install sun-j2sdk1.5 , has to work, no way it wont.10:57
randyHmm.  Must be a permission thing somewhere.  I can only import my pictures from my camera as 'sudo'10:57
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dbernar1aroman: any luck?10:58
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lylyhi!10:59
dbernar1hey10:59
aromandbernar1, did that, nope cannot find package sun-j2re1.510:59
aroman:(10:59
dbernar1hm...let me uninstall mine for a sec...10:59
redguy!find sun-j2re1.510:59
aromanthis is really weird...10:59
delirelyly: hi10:59
lylyI try to have realplayer work. some one did it?10:59
robotgeekmaybe it is a good idea to try out the Breezy Live CD :) safety first!10:59
ivanoden!find sun-j2re1.511:00
dbernar1lyly: there is a page on the wiki, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats that shows how to get that working.11:00
aromanrobotgeek, nah, your system won't be broken, maybe just X but that's fixable...11:00
delirerobotgeek: yes, wise. breezy is currently built atop testing/unstable software.11:00
lylyyes but my rpoblem is I installed it from marillat repo and some codecs dont work11:00
delirerealplayer is best for realplayer files11:01
dbernar1lyly: go to the wiki, and install it from the normal way...and it shall work. remove all what you did before...unless the wiki says that marillat is how you install it anyhow:)11:01
deliremplayer, xine etc for the rest.11:01
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aromanand does anyone know how (or if it is possible) to get RandR extension working for Xorg 6.8.2?11:02
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delirehehe ambitious11:02
dbernar1aroman: it really is not there.11:02
tristanmikearoman, sorry, that worked?11:02
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'sun-j2re1.5' returned no results.11:02
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'sun-j2re1.5' returned no results.11:02
aromandbernar1, garh...11:03
chrismydelire, yes and ompaul found 2 bugs11:03
aromandbernar1, wth is going on? :S11:03
lylythe fact is that the normal way have no uninstaller11:03
redguygosh, poor ubotu11:03
redguy!botsnack11:03
ubotuthanks redguy :)11:03
delirechrismy: it compiles fine on x86 here. what were the bugs?11:03
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aromandbernar1, however... http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ <- how do you explain that? :S I can't11:04
dbernar1aroman: that one has it?11:04
aromandbernar1, not when I add it to sources.list...11:04
dbernar1ok11:05
aromandbernar1, but it shows it there in the web browser...11:05
dbernar1its not in extras atm, it seems.11:05
dbernar1just download it.11:05
lylysome one could give me a copy of the pluginreg.dat file? just to have a look11:05
Tatsterhi - I have a small mount problem  - I have an entry in /etc/fstab that reads  /dev/sda1       /scsi           ext3    rw      0       0   however this does not get mounted at boot time. Any ideas what I should check?11:06
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chrismydelire, not sure you ahve to ask ompaul. he is not here now i guess and he doesn't talk to me much11:07
redguyTatster: you might check man fstab11:07
redguyTatster: while reading that, you might want to look for auto option11:07
pablassohi guys.. a question here, i can access any port of any computer, but for some reason i cant access port 80 (web pages port) what could it be besides a firewall?11:07
chrismydelire, ok i am on my own now......searching for bugs in blender codes.....sob sob....this is ridiculous!11:08
sean_router11:08
sean_pablasso, check ure router maybe?11:08
tristanmikearoman, are you running a 64bit system?11:08
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aromantristanmike, for the lat time, no... lol11:08
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leonAnybody running Breezy?11:08
pablassoya... i have checked it, another computer doesnt have problems just me11:08
delirechrismy: i doubt they are bugs, i am fairly sure they are libraries missing on your machine during the compilation process.11:08
sean_leon,  installing breezy as we speak11:09
tristanmikearoman, lol, sorry, I didn't see you see that...lol11:09
tristanmike*say11:09
htrujillohi friends... i'm trying to install the jre but don't install11:09
guupstalol?11:09
htrujilloi already add the extra repositories11:09
chrismydelire, can't cheat you eh...heheh. trying to be blender-wanna-be :P11:09
aromantristanmike, it's okay, just that everyone has been asking that11:09
htrujillobut don't work11:09
aromananother victim..11:09
vader1102I won't install Breezy untill it is released in October11:09
leonsean_, do you get the warning of Color name 'black'11:09
aromanhtrujillo, welcome to the club11:09
htrujillohi11:09
chrismydelire, but i just do not know what and how....11:09
tristanmikearoman, lol, no problem, next time just smack me with a trout11:09
htrujillolol11:09
aromanit seems there's some problems with backports..11:09
ElBaronois breezy usable now?11:09
aromantristanmike, no need for that, not your fault11:09
chrismyBone.h11:10
delirechrismy: well it's a shame you have to _compile_ blender. very few people compile blender anymore (other than developers).11:10
htrujillosome codecs have problems too11:10
htrujillodon't install11:10
lylyElBarono: I'm using it now since colony 3 it s pretty goog11:10
robotgeekdelire: ppl at #gentoo do it all the tim :)11:10
robotgeek/tim/time11:10
delirehehe11:10
dbernar1ya, the java sdk, not jre, is not there atm...11:10
dbernar1they have the sdk, not re.11:10
ivanodendbernar1, i followed your guide but still can't install sun-j2re1.511:11
sean_leon, no not yet, maybe when i reboot here in 20min11:11
dbernar1ivanoden: ya, its not working atm.11:11
htrujilloivanoden... same problem11:11
ivanodendbernar1, any idea?11:11
dbernar1you can make your own package easy, tho.11:11
htrujillodon't know what happens...11:11
ivanodenhtrujillo, okie11:11
leonsean_, ok, thank you. This bug is hanging around for a while11:11
ivanodennot important11:11
tristanmikearoman, since you've tried a bit already, would it be wrong to assume that you haven't seen this thread... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59229&highlight=java11:11
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ivanodenyou can install your own11:11
dbernar1ivanoden: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java it has a link to show how to install java in a manual way, using chroot, and stuff.11:11
ivanodenthanks, i will install manually11:12
sean_leon, damn, ill have to keep a close eye out for it when i reboot here, im just finishing up the apt upgrade11:12
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aromantristanmike, oooh11:12
tristanmikearoman, comment #15 being the most important one11:12
leonsean_, all the updates just make breezy better so far11:13
qatsihello everybody !....im having some trubbles with Ubuntu. I installed it, then installed windows and the mootloader was overwriten, so i cant acces my Ubuntu system. How can i install the grub loader again ???. Already tried with install disk, but it says that im skiping some steps and my system wont work and bla bla...any idea ?11:13
aromantristanmike, I know I can build my own, but why doesn't this work, I wonder? bug in apt-get?  problem with backports? hmm11:13
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dbernar1aroman: just not in the repo...11:14
delireqatsi: you'll need to use a LiveCD, chroot into your ubuntu partition and reinstall grub.11:14
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philipsDo I need to do anything if I add a file to /etc/modprobe.d ?  update-modules just calls update-modules.modutils which doesn't exists11:14
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tristanmikearoman, I would have no idea, mine works fine as does many others, but it also seems that many others have a problem too, hardware related? :s11:15
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Stiivihi11:15
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sean_leon, cool, breezys not far off now, should be almost stable id imagine11:15
qatsidelire ok, i know how to do that in Linux Gentoo, but in Ubuntu its an unknown matter for me. Is it something like chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash   then grub--no-floppy ?11:15
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aromantristanmike, hardware-related wouldn't make sense11:15
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Stiivii have problems with printing on a windows machine from ubuntu through samba11:15
tristanmikearoman, but neither does this really.....11:16
Stiiviit does not print11:16
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leonsean_, it's my only production system. So far so good11:16
Tatster41Sorry - my connection got dumped - did anyone reply to my question about my mount problem11:16
robotgeekburning the live cd as we speak :)11:16
Stiivi/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip crashes11:16
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sean_really leon? u run breezy as a production system? you got gonads :) props to you :)11:16
Stiividoes anyone have similar experienc?11:16
bagpuss_thecatdoes anyone fancy testing out my k3ddesktop package for ubuntu? :-p11:17
vader1102I tried SuSe on my p2 366 last night...yuk, it was a BEAST as in extremely SLOW lol11:17
vader1102<----sticks with Hoary11:17
sean_vader1102,  i run ubunutu on a 333celeron, runs great11:17
leonsean_, because I can ssh to unix workstation and rdp to windowx xp too.11:17
philipssean_: I run breezy on a production system too11:17
bagpuss_thecathttp://lodge.glasgownet.com/?permalink=20050823214621 if anyone is interested11:17
leonphilips, hands11:17
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sean_wow :) cool guys, big kahunas :)11:17
Gorthhey guys is there a simple way to enable ssh in ubuntu??11:17
delireqatsi: not exactly no, just chroot / && grub-install should do it11:17
delireqatsi: from memory11:18
qatsidelire ok, thanx, ill do it :)11:18
leonphilips, do you get a warning like this "Warning: Color name "balck" is not defined" when running 'xterm -fg black'11:18
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NoUse!ssh11:18
ubotufrom memory, ssh is "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/"11:18
robotgeekleon: u typed it wrong while issuing the command11:19
vader1102sean_ I am running it on my same laptop and I agree it is great11:19
Gorththanks ubotu11:19
Gortherm11:19
GorthNoUse11:19
NoUsenp11:19
aroman!randr11:19
ubotuNo idea, aroman11:19
aroman!xrandr11:19
ubotuaroman: No idea11:19
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leonrob^, typo11:20
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sammiebyeee11:20
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leonrob^, xterm -fg black gives a similar warning11:21
leonrob^, and emacs won't start11:21
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Tatster41my mount problem is I have an entry in /etc/fstab that reads   /dev/sda1       /scsi           ext3    rw      0       0   however it does not mount after a reboot.  Any ideas?11:22
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robotgeekleon: why, did u lose a ctrl key?11:22
codecainewhat's good place to learn what the +e and +tncP all means for irc status?11:22
redguyTatster41: I answered your question once11:23
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leonrob^, what ctrl key11:23
delirenight all.11:23
Tatster41yeah my connection  got dumped right after I posted, so I missed it. Sorry.11:23
robotgeekleon: bad joke on emacs, sorry.11:23
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smitehey, i set a command to be 1 in the gnome sessions startup dialog... and now gnome won't start... is there a way i can set it back to 50 or delete it?11:24
hadi57hi, anybody know if there a way to copy or synchronize shared smb folder on the network to local folder11:24
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robotgeeksmite: login using the default session in gdm11:24
smiterobotgeek: ok11:24
Tatster41redguy: pls could you answer again!11:24
redguyTatster41: read man fstab and look for a 'auto' option11:25
leonrob^, can you start emacs in breezy11:25
gabihey ... got a prob with backports ... firfox 1.0.2 to 1.0.6 update11:25
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smitesame error11:25
Seveasgabi, don't use the backports firefox...11:25
smitemaybe i can log into fluxbox and start the sessions utility from the command line11:25
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Seveasubuntu has a real 1.0.6 in hoary-security11:25
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smite?11:25
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FlyingSquirrel32every time my screen saver starts, it does something different, which is great, but when I see one I like, how do I know it's name?11:26
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robotgeeksmite: hmm, try it out and see if it works. else, someone will suggest something more drastic i guess11:26
smiteaha, i logged into 'failsafe gnome' =D11:26
vladuz976anybody here uses e17?11:26
cybx> crimsum: thank you, that site worked for me!11:26
robotgeeksmite: sorry, i meant that!11:26
philipshow the heck do I disable F1 for gnome-help in gnome-terminal11:27
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NuWaveis there anyway i can load the hfsplus filesystem module on an x86 livecd of unbuntu? i'm trying to get the data off of a mac hdd that i have in a pc11:27
gabiwhich firefox then_11:27
gabi?11:27
Matoouahi11:27
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robotgeekphilips: look at the keyboard shortcuts, Preferences -> KB Shortcuts11:27
philipsrobotgeek: it seems to only happen in gnome-terminal though11:28
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robotgeekno idea, i don't use gnome terminal11:28
philipsrobotgeek: err actually in all gnome apps it does it11:28
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robotgeekthen it might be set in the kb shortcuts, disable it11:29
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philipsrobotgeek: nope, it isn't in there11:29
robotgeekhmm, interesting and irritating at the same time. no idea, sorry!11:29
robotgeekmaybe nautilus has something to do with that?11:30
philipsrobotgeek: it sucks when using vim11:30
philipsrobotgeek: constantly hit f1 instead of esc11:30
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robotgeekphilips: yeah, look at nautilus properties, i am hoping that something wud be there11:31
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carambolis netcraft toolbar safe?11:34
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esc_apewhat are some good alternatives to nautilus?11:34
carambolgnomebaker?11:35
carambolgraveman11:36
chavoesc_ape, a red hot stick in your eye11:36
redguykonqueror11:36
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tristanmikepointed too11:36
liquidfirehey i just installed ubuntu in server mode11:36
esc_apenautilus keeps crashing on me11:36
hadi57any body know any program to synchronize to folders on the network and on local driver?11:36
liquidfirebut when i try to do apt-get i can't download any package11:36
EasterSunshineapt-get install apt-get?11:37
liquidfirehmm11:37
liquidfirei'll try11:37
EasterSunshinei was kidding...11:37
redguyliquidfire: how come? you have internet connectivity?11:37
liquidfireapt-get update/upgrade works11:37
liquidfire:/11:37
liquidfireI have11:37
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liquidfiremaybe i am missing some command11:37
carambolsomebody has experiences with netcraft toolbar11:37
liquidfirei type sudo apt-get kdm11:37
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carambol?11:37
liquidfireit gives a error11:38
redguyliquidfire: try sudo apt-get install kdm11:38
liquidfirek11:38
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poningruguys question11:38
liquidfirethanks redguy that worked11:38
liquidfire:)11:38
liquidfireJust started from the scratch hehe11:38
poningruwhy cant I take a screenshot when there is a drop down being selected?11:38
liquidfiredon't want everything on it11:39
poningrufor example11:39
liquidfire^_^11:39
redguyliquidfire: do install from now on :-)11:39
poningrugo to http://www.dhnet.ufl.edu/forums/search.php11:39
poningruand click on one of the drop down things11:39
liquidfireThanks I will redguy :>11:39
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poningruand press your print screen button on your keyboard11:39
poningrunothing happens11:39
poningrubut if you get out of the drop down it allows you to press the print screen and takes a screen shot11:40
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poningruanyone have ideas why this is happening?11:40
supernixUptime: 17 hours and 48 minutes11:40
poningrushould I file a bug?11:40
Burgundaviasweatybob, please turn off your away message11:41
sweatybobok sorry.11:41
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redguyponingru: you might, sounds like a bug to me11:41
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rem__.11:42
tristanmikeponingru, yeah, i see what you mean11:42
rem__join @ipcop11:42
Stiiviis here someone experiencd with samba printing?11:42
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vladuz976what window managers do you guys use?11:42
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liquidfire-serve:)11:42
EasterSunshinevladuz976: kde11:42
liquidfire-serveThanks redguy11:43
liquidfire-serveonce again11:43
liquidfire-serve;)11:43
liquidfire-servePlaying a bit with the packages now :D11:43
EasterSunshinevladuz976: but fluxbox seems to be gaining popularity, i might try that soon11:43
codecaineanyone tell me where to get info about what the +tncP commands etc... mean on irc?11:43
vladuz976EasterSunshine, really? fluxbox is getting faster i heard11:43
liquidfire-servewhats fluxbox :o?11:43
vladuz976EasterSunshine, i used to have gnome but i didn't like it too much11:43
EasterSunshinecodecaine: do you know about the rfc pages?11:43
codecaineyes11:43
codecainei gotta read through those!11:43
EasterSunshine!info fluxbox11:44
vladuz976liquidfire, a window manager, pretty simple but good11:44
ubuntuThe program "Wordpress" isn't availible in ubuntu?11:44
ubotufluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB11:44
butcherbirdfluxbox = bloated blackbox :)11:44
liquidfire-serveah :)11:44
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EasterSunshinecodecaine: i'm sure someone has summarized em for you somewhere though...the channel modes that is11:44
liquidfire-servei'm trying to install kde what do i need besides kdm and kde ?11:44
EasterSunshinecodecaine: the thing with that is that there will be some "unofficial" chan modes that the rfc doesn't set a standard for11:44
newbieWhat other program that does something similar to wordpress is there?11:44
EasterSunshinenewbie: openoffice.org and kword11:44
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EasterSunshinenewbie: actually, ignore that, i don't know what wordpress is...11:45
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liquidfire-servebecause i'm talking with irssi now11:45
tristanmikelol11:45
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mike_douglasGoogle's Jabber server is live, anyone with a Jabber ID want to test it?11:45
liquidfire-servei'm trying to install kde what do i need besides kdm and kde ? Anyone :)/11:45
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liquidfire-serve./=?11:46
newbieEasterSunshine, I figured that out. It's a wiki-sort of program. Have a look at it here (www.blomkvist.nu) to see what it does. I'm looking for something similar in ubuntu. I don't want to install anything.11:46
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newbieEasterSunshine, ...install anything outside of the dpkg-tree.11:46
Fingolfinnhey do any of you have experience dual booting PPC ubuntu from an external hardrive11:46
EasterSunshineliquidfire: just do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:46
tristanmikenewbie, it's a blogging tool?11:47
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EasterSunshineliquidfire: that will take care of dependencies and stuff11:47
newbietristanmike, Sort of, I guess.11:47
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martinaldhi guys. is it possible to do an ftp install?11:47
mary-katecan someone please tell sammie that their nickname is already registered?11:47
mary-katethat i was the one who registered it?11:47
EasterSunshinenewbie: i had read it as wordprossesor...11:47
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tristanmikenewbie, i don't know anything about that program, but a search in synaptic turned up blogtk11:48
newbieEasterSunshine, I understand. I first read it as WorLdPress which didn't make much sense either.11:48
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newbietristanmike, I'll have a look at blogtk then. =)11:48
tristanmikenewbie, http://blogtk.sourceforge.net/11:48
poningrucurses11:48
poningruare there any screenshot taking apps out there?11:49
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poningruerr the reps11:49
HrdwrBoBer11:49
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HrdwrBoBgnome-screenshot11:49
poningruyeah thats not working11:49
butcherbirdconnection keeps dropping anyone tell me real quick how to do a constant ping? in windows/dos i would do 'ping -t'11:49
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poningrutake a look at my above conversation11:49
poningrufrom about 17:3811:49
poningruedt11:49
newbietristanmike, Hmm, looks like blogtk is a helper app for programs like "Wordpress"... ;-)11:49
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poningruHrdwrBoB: it seems to be a bug11:50
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tristanmikenewbie, oh, sorry11:50
tristanmikeponingru, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1240711:50
tristanmikeponingru, someone was just as annoyed as you11:50
newbietristanmike, No worries. I came here for some help and any help is appreciated. =)11:50
HrdwrBoBponingru: ah11:51
EasterSunshinemary-kate: /msg nickserv ghost the_nick_you_want_to_kill password11:51
HrdwrBoBponingru: use gimp11:51
tristanmikenewbie, but have a search in synaptic and change "look in" to name and description11:51
tristanmikenewbie, if you don't know all ready that is :)11:51
naliothEasterSunshine: heh, that is amusing11:51
poningruhmm let me try gimp11:52
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EasterSunshinenalioth: err...why?11:52
dmoynehello ! : I eventually succeded in connecting a Windows XP computer to a printer connected to a Linux computer where both machines are connected to a local network through a router ; to get the printer connected to the Windows machine I had to do this (a) "http://<server IP>:631/printers/name_of_printer" whereas the FAQ says  (b) "ipp://<server IP>/printers/name_of_printer" ! ; why can I not connect with (b) option ? ; is ipp protocole unk11:52
sean_what are the chances of my USB Zip drive working?11:52
newbietristanmike, I'm all new to ubuntu and gnome. I've never used synaptic before. =)11:52
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tristanmikenewbie, cool, someone put me on to that idea about a week ago11:53
EasterSunshinesean_: it probably wont work immediately, but if you try at it for a couple of minutes, you will probably get it11:53
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poningruok yeah gimp worked thanks guys11:54
vader1102Gimp alwys works lol11:54
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tristanmikeha11:55
flughgimp is the stuff of legends11:55
flughtyler durden uses gimp11:55
tristanmikelol11:55
lillylegsandtoeswhat is the comand for delete?11:55
codecainerm11:55
tristanmikerm11:55
lillylegsandtoesthanks11:55
Fingolfinncome on, looking for people with experience dual booting PPC ubuntu on a firewire drive11:56
Fingolfinnplease help lol11:56
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airmikey_im trying to unzip theses rar files11:57
EasterSunshinelillylegsandtoes: you should alias rm='rm -i' so it will prompt you before deleting so that you will be safe and not delete lartge amounts of files by accident11:57
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newbietristanmike, It appears that wordpress is availible in universe. =)11:57
tristanmikegood point EasterSunshine11:57
EasterSunshineairmikey_: do you know about unrar-nonfree?11:57
airmikey_i loaded both but not working11:57
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tristanmikenewbie, D'oh! never even checked there for THAT program specifically11:58
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kijois any1 using this "eluminX Illuminated Keyboard" ?11:58
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tristanmikenewbie, and if I had've scrolled down to the end, I woulda seen it, *shaking head in shame of himself*11:58
feensterQuick question from a complete newbie. How can I change the display resoloution of my Ubuntu live CD? Its too low at the moment11:58
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mary-katedon't people identify to nickserv here?11:59
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ray_ibm is giving code to firefox to help for 1.511:59
EasterSunshinemary-kate: i identified to nickserv...if you don't, i think he'll change your nick to Guest40801 in like a minute11:59
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mary-kateno it won't11:59
mary-katealready tried11:59

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