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Liquidfire-servewell12:08
EasterSunshineLiquidfire-serve: i thought mandriva was good12:08
ubuntunow i use fedora core 3 and mandrake 10.2 (2005 LE)12:08
Liquidfire-servei meant in comperison with windows12:08
Liquidfire-serve;)12:08
EasterSunshineLiquidfire-serve: until i used ubuntu12:08
Liquidfire-servecomparison 12:08
EasterSunshineubotu tell BTJustice about sudo12:08
Liquidfire-servehow the heck do you spell that lol12:08
EasterSunshineubotu tell BTJustice about root12:08
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroWell, I've used Mandriva and RedHat and I like this distro over the previous two12:08
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroI'm planning on trying Gentoo someday as well12:08
Liquidfire-servewell12:09
EasterSunshineisn't gentoo a live distro/12:09
ubuntuyeah thnks ill give it a chance :)12:09
Liquidfire-servei'm going to fool around in this easy distro12:09
Liquidfire-servemaybe when i know more12:09
Liquidfire-servei'm going to customize other distro's12:09
ubuntuhow long hav u been using linux12:09
Liquidfire-servewho me ?12:09
BTJusticeEasterSunshine:  That only deals with Gnome12:09
ubuntuyes12:09
Liquidfire-serve1 week12:09
Liquidfire-servelol12:09
EasterSunshineBTJustice: nope, works on kde as well12:09
Liquidfire-serve1-2 weeks12:09
ubuntuyeah 12:10
Liquidfire-servebut I can see myself as fast learner12:10
Liquidfire-serveand linux is a new experience for me12:10
EasterSunshineBTJustice: prepend root commands with sudo, and use sudo bash to bring a root sheel12:10
Liquidfire-serveand i like to learn :>12:10
ubuntume too its been about 2 months now and im kinda stuck on mandrake 12:10
ubuntuim installing slackware 10.1 now 12:10
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroOuch12:11
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroPowerful, but not exactly user friendly12:11
ubuntuyeah 3rd try is a charm12:11
ubuntui found out th hard way 12:11
EasterSunshinei tried fedora once omg it was horrible beyond explanation...12:11
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroEasterSunshine: How come?12:12
EasterSunshinewell not horrible, thats too harsh a word for a free operating system...it wasn't for me i guess12:12
ubuntuyeah i just got done with fedore core 3 and i didnt have any trouble12:12
EasterSunshinemaybe if i went in and tried it again, i would like it better this time around12:12
ubuntuyou ever got to www.linuxquestions.org12:12
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ubuntugood help there12:13
BTJusticeEasterSunshine: It doesn't work.  I cannot log into KDE with root account.12:13
EasterSunshinethe root account is disabled, you can enable it, i think that link i sent you explains how12:14
BTJusticeNo, all that does is allow me to change the password12:14
BTJusticenothing else12:14
EasterSunshineubotu tell me about root12:14
ubuntume?12:15
BTJusticeAnd all the directions I have found deal only with allowing root log into Gnome12:16
BTJusticeGnome is gay12:16
BTJusticeoy12:16
ubuntuyeah gnome sucks 12:16
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroI think BTJustice just discovered the next slogan for KDE 3.5 :)12:16
EasterSunshineargh...you are right...this isn't allowing me to root login to kde...12:16
BTJustice"Gnome is gay... OY... OY... OY..."12:17
EasterSunshineBTJustice: why do you need to root login to kde anyway?12:17
EasterSunshineBTJustice: theoretically, you would NEVER need to do that12:17
BTJusticeI want to install ttf foonts and other stuff and I am goddamn sick of sudo commands12:17
BTJusticei am not good with the terminal12:17
BTJusticei am a gui guy12:17
EasterSunshineBTJustice: do you know about kdesu?12:17
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroBTJustice: You can do that in kcontrol12:17
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroIn a normal account too12:17
BTJusticei would just rather do it as root12:18
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroYou can12:18
BTJusticethen log out adn log back in as normal user when i am done12:18
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroThere's a button in the fonts section labeled "Administrator Mode"12:18
Liquidfire-serve!dma12:18
BTJusticeThat's another too...12:19
EasterSunshineBTJustice: do `kdesu kcontrol` it will launch a root kcontrol12:19
chavoBTJustice, mkdir ~/.fonts12:19
chavocp font.ttf ~/.fonts12:19
chavodone12:19
BTJusticesince i upgraded to kde 3.4.212:19
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroBTJustice: Control Center -> System Administration -> Font Installer -> Administrator Mode12:19
Liquidfire-servehmm12:20
BTJusticeI don't have Control Center12:20
BTJusticeit is gone12:20
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroThen just type kcontrol in konsole12:20
BTJusticeIs ther e a way to put control center back on the menu12:20
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroSure12:20
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroRight click on the menu and select Menu Editor12:20
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroThen edit to your heart's content12:21
Liquidfire-servetest12:22
Liquidfire-servedo you see this12:22
Liquidfire-serve:o12:22
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroNo12:22
BTJusticeRogue: Doing menu editor, I don;t see Control Center listed anywhere12:22
Liquidfire-servehmm12:22
Liquidfire-servesorry Rogue_Jedi_Zero 12:22
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroJust kidding12:22
ubuntu<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">12:22
ubuntu<body>to set a <FONT color="red">root</FONT> account after install via the sudo user account<BR/>12:22
ubuntu<BR/></body>12:22
Liquidfire-serveMy internet connection is acting up12:22
Liquidfire-serveall slow etc12:23
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroBTJustice: Then add it yourself12:23
Liquidfire-servethought i had a timeout12:23
Liquidfire-serve:>12:23
BTJusticeAnd also, doing Administrator Mode in Control Center retuirns me to original window12:23
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroYes, but it should have a red outline12:23
BTJusticealright alright alright12:23
BTJusticei am going too fast.12:23
BTJusticefirst off, using menu editor, how do I re-add Control Center?12:23
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Rogue_Jedi_ZeroBTJustice: Click on New Item12:24
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroCommand is kcontrol, in the Name field put in Control Center or whatever you want12:25
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Rogue_Jedi_ZeroClick on the square to select an icon, then back at the menu editor click Save and you're done12:25
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MasterChief01Hello, all.12:26
BTJusticeok, control center is back (kind of)12:26
BTJusticenow how do I allow root to log into KDE?12:26
Liquidfire-serve!nvidia12:26
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia12:26
ubuntuto set a root account after install u can use a sudo user account by opening up a terminal (not as root) and type    sudo psswd root "enter" 12:27
ubuntusudo psswd root12:27
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroWhy would you want that? You can do everything and I mean EVERYTHING with sudo and kdesudo12:27
ubuntuthen enter12:27
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ubuntuthen sudo user psswd12:28
ubuntuenter12:28
ubuntuthen enter root psswd 12:28
MasterChief01Can anyone help me with getting sound to work?12:28
ubuntuand reenter root psswd12:28
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BTJusticeubuntu: Taht only works for Gnome12:28
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BTJusticeNow I am in the Login Manager as sudo in COntrol Center.12:28
BTJusticeCan I enable it from there.12:29
ubuntugnome only?12:29
ubuntuworked for mandrake using KDE12:29
BTJusticeThat's the bad thing about the Ubuntu Wiki and user guide, it assumes you are using Ubuntu (Gnome).12:29
ubuntuWiki???12:29
BTJusticehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/12:30
BTJusticeNot that I am mad at Kubuntu, but I alsmost want to try a different distro that uses KDE by default and has a lot of help pages about KDE instead of f'ing Gnome.12:31
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ubuntumandrake 10.2 does12:32
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ubuntuyou set it up that way your self12:32
ubuntuvery user friendly12:32
BTJusticeubuntu: Yeah I was thinking about trying Mandriva, but it is a big download.12:32
BTJusticeI was going to get the DVD downlaod.12:33
Rogue_Jedi_Zeroubuntu: The package distribution is horrible, though12:33
ubuntui got 10.0 10.1 and 10.2 12:33
ubuntui buy the download versions for 17.9512:33
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroI last ran Mandriva 2005 LE12:33
BTJusticeI like Kubuntu, though, it is nice and simple usually, lol12:33
ubuntuand got a training cd12:33
BTJusticebut i do want to log into KDE as root.12:33
BTJusticejust to make changes12:33
BTJusticethen log out and back in as normal user after I am done12:34
BTJusticeIn KDE Login Manager > Users there is a list called hidden which has root and my account and some others with "@" in fromt of them.  Can I simply check the box in front of root and my account so I can log out and log in as root?12:36
MasterChief01I'm trying to run the Alsamixer, but everytime I enter the command, nothing happens.12:37
MasterChief01Can anyone help me?12:37
MasterChief01Any help at all would be appreciated.12:37
ubuntuenter,    alsamixer in a terminal12:41
ubuntu:))12:41
MasterChief01I open the run command window and type that in, but the box vanishes and nothing else appears.12:41
MasterChief01BTW, I'm using Kubuntu, so I don't have Gnome yet.12:42
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ubuntuno sory but not in the command window but in a terminal like konsole12:42
BTJusticeSo can I enable root to log into KDE or not?12:43
chavoBTJustice, go ahead, then you can learn the hard way why 100000 people are telling you not to.12:44
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MasterChief01Okay, now that I have it open, how do I get my Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS working?  Are you familiar with that card?12:44
ubuntuno im not sory try www.linuxquestions.org12:44
ubuntucheck the fourms12:44
MasterChief01Looking there now.12:44
ubuntuits a great site12:45
MasterChief01I get the feeling I'm going to be looking there a whole lot.12:45
MasterChief01Being that this is my first Linux12:45
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ubuntuyeah,hay you got hotmail or yahoo im new too and its always fun when you no your not the only one that dont know JACK $H!T12:46
ubuntuiv been using for abt 2 mo's now 12:47
MasterChief01My AIM name is RawSteelUT, my email is RawSteelUT@netscape.net12:47
MasterChief01You've got two months more than I.12:47
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BTJusticeSo can I enable root to log into KDE or not?12:48
ubuntucool ill mak a net scape acc now 12:48
ubuntuany one hear a echo ??12:48
jpowersBTJustice: why would you ever do that?12:49
BTJusticeI tired of explainging why.12:49
BTJusticeJust how do you do it?12:49
BTJusticeGosh even Mepis allows you to log in as root.12:50
MasterChief01ubuntu - Hm... I followed the advice I found on the forum, but I still can't hear my CDs....12:50
jpowersBTJustice: logging into KDE as root is generally thought of as unsafe so you're not allowed to do it.  12:51
jpowersI don't even know how to enable it.12:51
ubuntudid you DL the drivers and install them ?12:52
jpowersBTJustice: depending on what kinds of changes you want to do, you may be able to do them just fine from your normal user acct (i.e. kdesu kcontrol)12:52
EasterSunshinekdesu is like my favorite command ever12:52
jpowersI like it too.12:52
BTJusticeIt's funny that Ubuntu/Gnome allows you to do it but Kubuntu/KDe doesn't.12:52
jpowersIt's not perfect.12:52
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroThat's why there are many flavors of Linux. You get to choose yours12:53
ubuntu12:53
jpowersI'm sure there's a way to make it work, BTJustice, but I don't know what way that is, as I've never wanted to.12:54
jpowersLogging into KDE as root kind of scares me.12:54
MasterChief01BRB12:55
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MasterChief01Back12:58
ubuntuyou get it workin ?12:59
ubuntuwhat distor r you using?01:00
MasterChief01I'm using Kubuntu 5.0401:00
ubuntudistro <OOPS01:00
ubuntuok01:00
MasterChief01I'm trying to use the advice here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/63/2005/07/4/33751301:00
MasterChief01But it's not working, I still can't play CDs01:00
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dominicHi, I'm trying to install the german package for kubuntu. need some help.. can somebody help?01:03
dominic, testing01:04
MasterChief01I see an A with dots, an O with dots and a U with dots01:04
cem0ralso01:05
paxdominic: tried language-pack-de language-pack-de-base language-support-de ?01:05
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dominicno, not yet. can i install ist with apt-get?01:06
paxsure01:06
paxsudo apt-get install language-pack-de language-pack-de-base language-support-de01:07
dominicok, i'll try it.01:08
MasterChief01Man, I don't get what I'm doing wrong...01:08
ubuntuit prob not u man just a configuration issue i'll look around 01:09
MasterChief01Thanks... I'm still reading this piece.  Something has to work.01:10
dominicworked. now how do i get the task bar from english to german?01:10
ubuntuit will work 01:10
ubuntusome how01:10
MasterChief01Heh, in the meantime, I'll BRB right quick.  Gonna see if at least my onboard will work.01:10
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BTJusticeTo log into Kubuntu as root...01:11
BTJusticehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/156501:11
VeloxWould anyone happen to know what package the keyboard settings is? Its not loading, so I want to try a reinstall.01:12
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ubuntuhay i'll look you up on aim i hav to reboot im on a live cd now and i need other files off my HD see ya01:14
dominic@pax; thanks for the help. got to go!01:15
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MasterChief01Okay.... That doesn't seem to be working...01:17
MasterChief01Damn it all... BRB01:21
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reagleBRKLNwhen i plug in a usb2 ext drive, i would like to be able to access it as a user01:25
reagleBRKLNsyslog says: udev[9435] : creating device node '/dev/sda1'01:26
reagleBRKLNbut /bin/ls: /dev/sda1/: Not a directory01:26
reagleBRKLNand /media/sda1 isn't created01:26
reagleBRKLNunless i have a fstab entry for it, shouldn't it be automagic?01:26
reagleBRKLNeven with this fstab01:27
reagleBRKLNdev/sda1       /media/sda1     auto    rw,user,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8 0 001:28
reagleBRKLNkio says: mount: mount point /media/sda1 does not exist01:28
reagleBRKLNif i create that mount point manually, it gives me: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,01:28
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MasterChief01Okay, I seem to have system sounds at least.01:29
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MasterChief01I'm going to assume I need some codec or the other to play CDs01:30
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VeloxreagleBRLN: your permissions seem off at least.01:31
reagleBRKLNVelox: how do i make those drives i click/mount from the desktop user writable without manually defining fstab lines?01:31
VeloxWell, in the umask you have 077...this is OWNER: No permissions, GROUP: read/write/exec, OTHER: read/write/exec01:32
reagleBRKLNforgot that line in fstab, i've commented it out complete01:33
reagleBRKLNmy fstab makes no mention of /dev/sda now01:33
MasterChief01Hmmm....01:33
reagleBRKLNwhen i plug the drive in, it still mounts it as /dev/sda1 media:/sda1 whic his fine01:33
reagleBRKLNbut i have no permissions01:33
MasterChief01Can anyone help me try to install a program?01:33
VeloxOkay, you're trying to mount a USB drive correct? And its showing up as sda1?01:34
MasterChief01I'm trying to install RealPlayer 10, but I don't know how to run the executable.01:34
reagleBRKLNVelox: yes01:34
VeloxMasterChief01: chmod +x Real* sudo sh Real*01:34
reagleBRKLNMasterChief01: did you try apt-get install realplayer ?01:34
MasterChief01Isn't apt-get a GNOME app?01:34
VeloxAnd you wish to change the directory correct? Or is it not working.01:35
MasterChief01Velox - I type it that way?01:35
Veloxapt-get is a debian program01:35
MasterChief01Ah.01:35
reagleBRKLNVelox: apt-get works with k/ubuntu ...?!01:35
VeloxSeperate lines MasterCheif, sorry for the confusion.01:35
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VeloxreagleBRKLN: Ubuntu is based on Debian01:35
MasterChief01So I type it like this:01:35
MasterChief01chmod _x Real01:35
MasterChief01sudu sh Real?01:35
VeloxReal* (or the whole name)01:36
MasterChief01Okay.01:36
VeloxI was just using my lazy shortcut.01:36
MasterChief01That's in the command window, right?01:36
VeloxIndeed01:36
reagleBRKLNVelox: i've formated the external parition as ext2, i want to read write to it as a user01:36
MasterChief01Okay, nothing happened...01:36
martinQuestion: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?01:37
MasterChief01Do I include the .bin extension or no?01:37
VeloxOops, don't use sh...I need some caffene. I'm tired :\01:37
MasterChief01Ok01:37
Veloxsudo ./RealPlayer10.bin (or whatever it is)01:37
MasterChief01Okay, let's try that...01:38
Veloxsudo ./Real* works too as * is a wildcard01:38
MasterChief01Do I do this at the command window on in Konsole?01:38
MasterChief01Because nothing seems to be happening at the command window...01:38
VeloxDoes it just go to the next line or an error?01:39
MasterChief01The command window vanishes.  I guess that means I have to go to konsole.01:39
VeloxOdd.01:39
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MasterChief01Yeah... I just installed kubuntu a few hours back.  It's confusing. :P01:40
VeloxLinux can be confusing, especially with no experience.01:40
martinyep01:40
VeloxThe mind still boggles at a few things.01:41
MasterChief01Hm, I enter the command in Konsole and it says "RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: COmmand not found"01:41
martinfor the desktop focussed ppl we need more wizards and such01:41
VeloxUse Synaptic, or Kynaptic on KDE.01:41
VeloxPackage manager.01:42
MasterChief01Okay, lemmie start up Kynaptic01:42
VeloxI find wizards a thing of the past.01:42
MasterChief01wizards?01:42
martinafter 1.5 weeks of tuning i finally can see i am happy with my linux installation01:42
MasterChief01Okay, Kynaptic didn't show up...01:43
VeloxMasterChief01: try chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin01:43
martinMust say i ahve a lot of hardware which requires some tweaking like indexing sound cards01:43
VeloxThen ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin (or sudo before it if it gives "need root" error)01:43
martinmaster: you know, those things which helps you with installing stuff01:43
MasterChief01Ah.01:44
MasterChief01Goodness knows it would help make switching from Windows easier.01:44
MasterChief01And it keeps saying No such file or directory.01:44
MasterChief01Nevermind the bin's in my home folder...01:44
VeloxAre you in your home folder then?01:44
VeloxType ls and make sure its there.01:45
martinmasteR: indeed, but i must say there is good progress. Used RH 6 a few years ago and we've vome a long way01:45
MasterChief01martin - You mean it used to be harder on RH6?01:45
MasterChief01Velox Just type ls at the Konsole?01:45
martinmaster: yes01:45
MasterChief01I get this message: Desktop jre-1_5_0_04-linux-amd64.bin   RealPlayer10GOLD.bin01:46
MasterChief01And look at that, Kynaptic decided to show this time.01:47
Veloxchmod a+x Real*01:47
Velox./Real*01:47
Velox(with the stars)01:47
MasterChief01Just goes to the next line with no message.01:47
VeloxAnd it hasn't installed?01:48
MasterChief01How do I know if it's installed or not if there's no message?01:48
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MasterChief01Hello?01:50
poMasterChief01 : i'm not an expert but why don't you try this http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#realplay01:52
MasterChief01What am I loading?01:52
powhat?01:53
VeloxProbably a tutorial01:53
MasterChief01Looks like it.01:54
Velox*tries to get keyboard settings to work*01:54
poanother one http://ubuntuguide.org/#realplayer01:54
MasterChief01Okay, taking a look at these.01:55
MasterChief01And while I'm at it, do I need to install a codec of some sort to get my CDs to play?  I can hear some sounds, but not CDs.01:55
poi don't remember installing any codec to play cd's01:56
powhat program do you use to play cd's ?01:57
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MasterChief01Well I'm trying to use ksCD until I get Realplayer to install and work.01:57
poand you have no sound?01:57
MasterChief01Well I was able to hear the startup chime when I booted up just now.01:58
powait ... try looking into kMix on the CD volume !!01:58
MasterChief01How do I do that?01:58
MasterChief01Okay, now we're going somewhere.01:59
poyou found?01:59
MasterChief01No, I'm managing to finally install Realplayer.  Where do I find kMix?01:59
MasterChief01Is /home/username/Realplayer a good place to put it?02:00
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MasterChief01Here we are, found kMit02:01
MasterChief01Mix02:01
poi don't know (sorry i'm not an expert!) ............ k menu -> multimedia -> kmix (i gess)02:01
MasterChief01po - You know more than me, so don't sweat it.  I appreciate the help.02:01
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ThxGivinghi!02:01
pothanx02:01
MasterChief01Okay, CD volume is set to max.02:02
MasterChief01And I find that if you turn on mic boost, you hear the mic all the time...02:02
ThxGivingi just did a normal install of kupuntu hoary02:02
ThxGivingBUT02:02
ThxGiving(well its the first time i logged on with KDE right now)02:02
ThxGivingthe konsole and kdesu doesnt work02:02
ThxGivingkonsole: no prompt02:02
ThxGivingkdesu "The program su is not found. make sure your PATH is set correctly"02:03
ThxGivingi did not change anything at all yet02:03
ThxGivingjust a clean install from cd02:03
ThxGivingsu is installed02:03
ThxGivingPLEASE help02:03
MasterChief01Okay, installed Realplayer, now to get CDs to work...02:03
cem0rgone02:03
MasterChief01That's funny, the mic boost just died.02:04
poThxGiving : what are you trying to do ? i can't undertand your problem?02:05
VeloxThxGiving: begging for help won't work, if we know the answer we'll tell you. You might consider posting on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/02:05
MasterChief01Okay, I need to download a few things to get RP to work it seems...02:05
ThxGivingthanx velox02:05
ThxGiving@po: i just installed kubuntu.. i log on kde..02:05
ThxGivingand start the konsole02:05
ThxGivingit doesnt display a prompt02:06
ThxGivingjust the window and a cursor02:06
ThxGivingwhen i try to start kynaptic (which uses kdesu)02:06
pocan you type anything in it?02:06
ThxGivingkdesu prompts for the root password but says "su not found"02:06
ThxGivingno02:06
ThxGivingi cant02:06
ThxGivingtho i can click thru the menu02:06
poclick where?02:07
ThxGivingthe menu of the konsole02:07
pobut what do you want to launch? kynaptic?02:07
ThxGivingkonsole02:08
ThxGivingthe konsole window pops up02:08
ThxGivingcursor in left edge02:08
ThxGivingbut no prompt02:08
MasterChief01UGH!02:09
ThxGivingthis sucks02:09
ThxGivinghumf02:09
powell i have no answer...02:09
MasterChief01I have CD volume at max on kMix and still can't play CDs...02:09
MasterChief01Hmmm...02:09
ThxGivingcant start xterm as well02:10
ThxGiving:(02:10
poMasterChief01 : try using kaffeine02:10
MasterChief01Okay...02:10
ThxGivingwhat the codename for the unstable release?02:11
ThxGiving+s02:11
MasterChief01Kaffine keeps crashing.02:11
poThxGiving : when you try alt+f2 and then typing xterm nothing happens ?02:11
ThxGivingexactly02:11
poMasterChief01 : at what point does it crash?02:12
MasterChief01When I try to open the CD02:12
ThxGivingwhat is the codename for kubuntu unstable?02:12
ThxGivingand its a fresh installation!02:12
ThxGivingof hoary..02:12
VeloxMasterChief01: do you have a soundcard with digital/analog output?02:13
MasterChief01Yes, a Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS02:13
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VeloxAha02:14
MasterChief01Aha?02:14
VeloxOpen up a terminal and run alsamixer02:14
MasterChief01Okay, I'm on alsamixer02:14
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VeloxNow hit the right arrow over to the Item: Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack02:15
Veloxtry hitting M02:15
VeloxIt fixed my sound02:15
VeloxI have an Audigy 2 as well02:15
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MasterChief01Already done.  And that's the thing, I can hear my mic, but not CDs02:15
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VeloxHmm...check the alsamixer for any muted lines, like CD02:16
MasterChief01Checking02:16
MasterChief01No muted lines.02:17
VeloxSo CD says 00?02:17
ThxGivingmaybe it has to do with the kernel02:17
MasterChief01Yes, and the bar is raised.02:17
ThxGivingthe only thing i did was upgrading the kernel02:17
ThxGivingto 2.6.12.502:17
MasterChief01Worth a shot, I suppose.  How do I go about doing this?02:18
VeloxYou might try looking around http://www.ubuntuforums.org first02:18
MasterChief01Been there.02:19
MasterChief01That's where I first got the alsamixer advice.02:19
poMasterChief01 : but does the CD play and you have no sound or it simply doesn't play?02:21
MasterChief01The CD plays without sound.02:21
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pocant you "explore" the cd? (is it "accessible"?)02:23
MasterChief01I can access the CD via conquerer, yes.02:23
VeloxHmm02:23
poyou said kaffeine crashed ... you can try installing vlc?02:23
VeloxIt might be the program02:23
pojust to try02:23
MasterChief01Can I find that in Kynaptic?  Where?02:23
poi think kynaptic02:24
MasterChief01Under where?02:24
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potry searching there is a search option02:25
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MasterChief01vlc right?  There's no result.02:25
Elite2khi can someone tell me how to get firefox installed in kubuntu02:26
MasterChief01Elite2k - Look for it under World Wide Web in Kynaptic02:26
Elite2kthanks02:26
Elite2kone other thing is there some type of torrent client installed on here02:26
MasterChief01I don't believe so, though it can't be that hard to find one.02:27
Elite2kive installed azurus but doesnt seem to be working :(02:27
MasterChief01Well the original BitTorrent has a Linux version, so you can try that.02:27
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroThere's also Ktorrent02:28
Elite2kyeah02:28
MasterChief01Jedi - That too.02:28
Elite2kis it listed under the kynaptic02:28
Elite2ki mean iun there02:28
MasterChief01Well, barring Kynaptic, where can I find vlc?02:29
ThxGivingive got an idea02:30
ThxGivingum02:30
ThxGivingppl?02:30
MasterChief01Oh?02:30
MasterChief01Yes?02:30
ThxGivinghow can one check out with which version something is compiled?02:30
ThxGivingldd ?02:30
poMasterChief01 : maybe you'll have to add extra sources into your source.list file to get vlc through kynaptic02:31
poMasterChief01 : have you ever edited your sources.list file?02:31
MasterChief01po - THis is my first day with any linux distro, so no.02:31
Elite2kMasterChief01: 02:31
Elite2kdude02:31
Elite2kuse xine02:31
Elite2kit can play everything vlc can too02:32
Elite2kuses less resources as well..02:32
MasterChief01Ah.02:32
Elite2klet me get u a relly cool link02:32
Elite2khold uo02:32
MasterChief01I could do that too.02:32
Elite2kup*02:32
Elite2ki just installed this today too02:32
Elite2klike 3 hours ago02:32
poMasterChief01 : yes that could work!02:32
Elite2knever used linux before but this is cool02:32
Elite2kfor n00bs hold up02:32
apokryphos=)02:32
MasterChief01Hehe, nice to see I'm not the only virgin here.02:32
MasterChief01po - What, Xine?02:33
Elite2khttp://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/02:33
Elite2kgo there02:33
Elite2kthis dude is relly cool he compiled a zip file that has alot of cool stuff in it02:33
Elite2kdownload his ubuntu addon.zip file02:33
Elite2knd do wut it says in the terminal02:33
Elite2kto unzip it02:33
Elite2knd install it02:33
Elite2kits Very simple02:33
Elite2kit has Xine in it also there was a Xine packege in ubuntus downlods from apt-get02:34
MasterChief01Okay.  Let me just wait for this to load....02:34
Elite2kbut that shit didnt work for me02:34
Elite2ki dunno why :S02:34
Elite2klet me get u another link as well k02:34
MasterChief01Well I found a program called xinet in Kynaptic... Dunno if that's the same...02:34
Elite2khttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/02:34
Elite2kthere also02:35
Elite2ksee the stuff in the black boxes02:35
Elite2kjust cut paste the code in terminal02:35
Elite2kit will auto install it02:35
MasterChief01Okay.02:35
Elite2kits Ez02:35
Elite2ki dunno about xinet02:35
MasterChief01Though all these assume Gnome, so I'd better get that...02:35
Elite2ki am using xine from this mrbass guys site02:35
MasterChief01Okay, but first thing's first, getting the gnome packages.02:37
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MasterChief01BRB guys, gonna grab a drink.02:37
poMasterChief01 : maybe you would like to try this before http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories02:37
MasterChief01Okay, loading repositories.02:38
poit will add a lot of packages available in kynaptic02:38
MasterChief01Well, the site anyway.02:38
MasterChief01Okay, BRB in one sec02:38
Elite2kpo reposotories what are they02:38
Elite2kis that like windows update files lists02:39
Elite2kin a sense02:39
Elite2klike a list of packages available02:39
MasterChief01I'm guessing it's a list of servers02:39
poElite2k : yes ... packages that are supposed to be easy to install and uninstall to your linux distribution02:40
Elite2khot hot02:40
=== Elite2k this linux stuff isnt that hard.. :D
MasterChief01Heh02:41
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MasterChief01Hopefully as it gets easier more people will be able to come in without the troubles we're having02:41
MasterChief01Then it's goodbye MS02:41
Elite2kLOL02:41
Elite2kwell02:41
Elite2kright now its osx8602:41
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MasterChief01Elite - You're a mac user?02:42
Elite2kyep02:42
Elite2kright now my comp02:42
Elite2kdual boots02:42
Elite2kusing grub02:42
MasterChief01Ah, I see.02:42
=== MasterChief01 dualboots with WinXP
Elite2kwinXP. osx86, kubuntu02:42
MasterChief01That's a lot of partitions.02:42
MasterChief01Big HD?02:42
Elite2kyep02:42
Elite2knope02:42
Elite2kits a laptop02:42
Elite2k40GB02:43
MasterChief01Ah.02:43
Elite2k2ghz02:43
Elite2ki wanna compare Battery life02:43
Elite2kwhich os gives me the most02:43
MasterChief01Ah.02:43
Elite2kill stick with that :D02:43
Elite2kbut ubuntu is kewl02:43
MasterChief01Yeah, I'm enjoying Kubuntu so far, all things considered.02:43
Elite2kman the best part is02:44
Elite2kits all configured02:44
Elite2ksound video02:44
Elite2kusb 02:44
Elite2keverything02:44
MasterChief01Hehe, indeed.02:44
Elite2ki just dont like the browser02:44
Elite2kits kewl but i prepfer mozilla02:45
Elite2ktoo much use to it02:45
MasterChief01Hehe, same02:45
Elite2kprefer*02:45
=== apokryphos loves Konqueror
MasterChief01Konquerer is much better as a file browser02:45
Elite2kwith my popup block nd whethear lister02:45
ThxGivingdoes anyone knows about ubuntu kernel patches02:45
Elite2kyes02:45
Elite2kexactly02:45
MasterChief01Thx - Good question02:45
Elite2kapokryphos: its a good browser but02:45
Elite2kfor files it will be better02:45
apokryphosElite2k: faster than mozilla/firefox (starting up and loading pages)02:45
Elite2krelly02:46
Elite2kcan u use mozilla addons in it02:46
apokryphoswhich is my priority. Compability is only getting better with it, too. It does all I want, so it's groovy.02:46
MasterChief01apok - I have the opposite effect actually02:46
=== apokryphos doesn't believe MasterChief01 :P
MasterChief01Heh02:46
Elite2ktru02:46
apokryphosFirefox takes at least 10 times longer to open02:46
Elite2klol02:46
apokryphosless if I've run it recently02:46
Elite2kgod man02:46
MasterChief01Well to open neither is slow02:46
apokryphosthough Konqueror loads pages easily faster, hands down, too.02:47
Elite2ki have been waitin for liek 10 mizn here now02:47
Elite2kto get firefox02:47
Elite2kfrom the kynaptic thing02:47
MasterChief01Elite - did you commit changes to system?02:47
Elite2kwut changes02:47
MasterChief01The packages you marked02:47
Elite2kchanges as in what ?02:47
Elite2kyes i did02:47
Elite2kits downloading them02:48
Elite2kbut downloading like alot02:48
MasterChief01Ah, so you're at fetch progress right now, right?02:48
Elite2kall i wanted was the firefox02:48
Elite2kyes02:48
Elite2kits downloading02:48
Elite2kbut taking time02:48
Elite2ki have a wirless 5 mb connection here02:48
Elite2k:S02:48
Elite2kstill slow02:48
MasterChief01Ah, wireless.02:48
Elite2kyeah02:48
Elite2kbut signal is full02:48
Elite2k100%02:48
=== MasterChief01 uses DSL, actually.
Elite2kme too02:48
Elite2kDSL02:48
Elite2kbut its wireless02:48
Elite2k:D02:48
Elite2kok u no wut02:49
MasterChief01Never been a fan of wireless.  Rain screws it up.02:49
Elite2ki think kynapatic is updating other files too02:49
Elite2ki just looked02:49
MasterChief01And, living in Florida, we get rain all the time.02:49
Elite2klike openoffice nd stuff02:49
Elite2krelly02:49
MasterChief01That's a good thing.02:49
Elite2kwell i am in Canada02:49
MasterChief01the updating02:49
Elite2krains here too but not as much snow most of the year02:49
MasterChief01Elite - So you get lots of snow? :P02:49
Elite2ki never had ne problems with internet02:49
Elite2k:S02:49
MasterChief01ok02:49
MasterChief01oh02:49
Elite2kluky i guess02:49
MasterChief01Indeed02:49
Elite2kodd02:50
Elite2kits also the fact that there is more users prob on ur dsl company too02:50
Elite2kserver prob gets over loaded alot02:50
MasterChief01Ah02:50
=== MasterChief01 is on Earthlink, never had a problem
Elite2ki live in a small town .. 350,000 people02:50
MasterChief01Good company, even with no Linux support02:50
Elite2ki use www.execulink.com its basically bell.ca re sold02:50
MasterChief01ah02:51
ThxGivingok i found the problem02:51
ThxGivingwhen you ever have a konsole with no prompt02:51
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ThxGivingand kdesu is not working etc02:51
ThxGivingits because you did something messy with your kernel config!02:51
Elite2kok time to get this kopete thing wrokin02:51
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ThxGivingi forgot to compile Unix 98 tty support02:51
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MasterChief01Goodie, 92% installed.02:52
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ilba7ri have a problem with deleting a user. I delete him and his group yet as soon as i log in to gdm his name is still there and when i use system>pref>add/del user he is stil there? How can i permenantly remove him?02:53
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MasterChief01BRB, bathroom02:55
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poThxGiving : you found!02:56
ThxGivingyes02:59
ThxGivingthanks for your help02:59
ThxGivingyou pushed me in the right direction02:59
ThxGivingit was the kernel02:59
pomental support ;)02:59
ThxGivingright!02:59
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MasterChief01Okay, this is strange...03:02
ray_what is it?03:02
MasterChief01My Kynaptic stuff finished downloading, but the selections are still all greyed out...03:03
ray_its installing03:03
ray_give it a sec03:03
MasterChief01Ah.  There really should be a progress window for that... ^^;03:03
ray_yes thats why i still use synaptic03:04
poMasterChief01 : yes me too03:04
MasterChief01Well part of what I'm downloading is a bunch of Gnome stuff, so hopefully I'll be able to give Synaptic a spin.03:04
MasterChief01I assume gnome-session is that actual desktop?03:04
=== MasterChief01 selected nearly everything under Gnome.
ray_oh no03:05
MasterChief01Oh no?03:05
poMasterChief01 : why did you do that!!??03:05
MasterChief01So I can get the gnome desktop? ^^;03:05
MasterChief01I screwed up, right?03:05
ray_if you wanted synaptic03:05
ray_just        sudo apt-get install synaptic03:05
MasterChief01Well I also wanted the actual desktop as well...03:05
ray_just        sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:06
ray_or03:06
ray_just        sudo apt-get install gnome03:06
MasterChief01Ah...03:06
ray_brb03:06
MasterChief01oops...03:06
=== MasterChief01 chalks that up to another newbie mistake...
MasterChief01Though... This won't mess up my system, will it?03:06
ray_yeah synaptic sucks too.......just use the command line.......way better03:07
ray_MasterChief01: it shouldnt but03:07
MasterChief01but?03:07
poMasterChief01 : i don't think so ... it should still work03:07
ray_it might03:07
MasterChief01eep...03:07
=== MasterChief01 crosses fingers.
ray_i think you will be fine03:07
MasterChief01Thanks.03:07
ray_brb03:08
MasterChief01Though I will say kubuntu is pretty good with background applications.03:08
MasterChief01The Kynaptic routines aren't effecting my browsing or chatting.03:09
pomultitasking!03:09
MasterChief01Hehe, indeed.03:09
MasterChief01And with fewer problems than in Windows it seems.03:10
powell sometimes you may have problems as well ... but in my experience fewer problems03:10
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MasterChief01Well, I can't possibly expect NO problems.  But fewer problems is nice.03:11
poyes ... and kubuntu hoary is the first release of kubuntu ... i heard at the begining (when it was released) a few things din't work that well ... but they keep improoving03:13
MasterChief01I thought Warty was their first release.03:14
MasterChief01And this was #203:14
poyes warty was the first releasy of ubuntu ...03:14
pognome only03:14
MasterChief01Ah, so this is the first KDE release.03:15
apokryphosyes03:15
MasterChief01I see.03:15
MasterChief01I'd say they're doing pretty well for themselves.03:15
apokryphosKynaptic is pathetic :P. New package manager for Breezy, which will be much better.03:15
MasterChief01As long as it has an install progress window, I'll be fine. :)03:16
sproingieaptitude rules over all others03:16
=== MasterChief01 nods
poapokryphos: for breezy ... like adept? http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html03:16
apokryphospo: correct03:16
sproingiei wouldnt mind a nice clicky aptitude though that had a nice resizeable window for the package descriptions03:16
sproingienot to mention the ability to search through descriptions03:17
=== MasterChief01 listens intently.
MasterChief01Hm, funny, there seems to be no option in Firefox to make it the default browser...03:18
sproingieMasterChief01: linux has no centralized notion of a "default browser"03:18
MasterChief01Ah.03:18
apokryphosMasterChief01: the option is in KControl03:18
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MasterChief01apok - Ah, I see.03:18
ray_ok back03:18
MasterChief01Hello again, ray03:18
ray_hello03:19
ray_is your system ok03:19
ray_lol03:19
MasterChief01I've not exploded yet.03:19
ray_good03:19
MasterChief01And I have IRC sounds now.03:19
ray_how do i get irc sounds?03:19
MasterChief01You're using Konversion?03:19
MasterChief01Konversation I mean03:19
ray_yes03:20
MasterChief01Under the settings pulldown select Configure Notifications.03:20
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=== ray_ grabs a beer
sproingiemmm beer03:20
MasterChief01You could do that as well, of course.03:20
ray_so you just used your own sounds?03:21
ray_???03:21
ray_who here likes kde?03:22
sproingiei hate it.  hang out here to diss it ;)03:22
ray_lol03:22
MasterChief01Ray - Well, there are a bunch of sounds available to you, though you can optionally use your own sounds.03:23
ray_i always flip flop ........gnome...kde..icewm...xfce...03:23
sproingiei hardly ever use the tools of heavyweight de's like gnome or kde03:23
sproingiebut it's nice to have it when i want it03:23
sproingiehaving thumbnail view in the file selector dialog for example03:24
sproingiecomes in handy when uploading an image to gmail03:24
ray_kde isnt as heavy as gnome.....imho.....although you think it would be03:24
MasterChief01ray - Why would you think that?03:24
ray_MasterChief01: becuase gnome uses more resources...and seems a tad slower03:25
MasterChief01Ah.03:25
=== sproingie can't tell the difference, but it's a pretty fast machine
MasterChief01I have the same perspective, Sproingie.03:25
MasterChief01AMD Athlon64 3400+03:25
ray_yeah my system is fast too.....kubuntu boots in like 25 seconds03:25
sproingiea mere 3000+ for me03:26
MasterChief01Hehe, 64 or just AthlonXP03:26
MasterChief01?03:26
sproingie25 seconds should be considered glacial, really03:26
sproingiebut linux doesnt put a premium on fast boots03:26
MasterChief01sproingie - Hehe, eventually.03:26
ray_i got a p4 3.8 ghz 2 gigs of ram03:26
MasterChief01And 25 seconds isn't so bad.03:26
ray_hey it boots faster than windows does03:26
MasterChief01I can get in a Street Fighter match in that. :)03:26
sproingiebeos booted in 10 seconds on a p2/40003:26
ray_yeah but beos is like anchient03:27
ray_i cant spell03:27
MasterChief01ray - I dunno, for me XP goes the 20-30 second range.03:27
kalenedraeli like beos03:27
ray_i dont use xp.....but when i did it was way slower than linux03:28
sproingiexp boots fairly fast, but explorer.exe is unresponsive for like 20-30 more seconds03:28
kalenedraelyes03:28
Elite2kwow03:28
MasterChief01sproingie - Yes.03:28
Elite2ku guyz r running XP slow03:28
Elite2ku need the startup tweaker03:28
Elite2kboots in 10 seconds for me03:28
ray_XP just sucks03:28
MasterChief01Elite - Dude, XP's a notorious memory hog03:28
Elite2klol03:28
Elite2kso tru03:28
MasterChief01You need huge ram amounts to run it.03:28
Elite2ki dont mind got 2 GB to spare03:28
sproingieMasterChief01: so's linux actually03:28
MasterChief01sproingie - Ah.03:28
kalenedraelnot at all, compared to XP...03:29
Elite2kwell mac osx86 is good too03:29
ray_yeah it boots in 10 seconds but programs are still loading after you see the gui03:29
MasterChief01ray - Indeed.03:29
sorush20is there a multi protocol file sharing program out there.. that allows Kaza, edonkey, gnutella  03:29
sproingiei wouldn't call linux all that slim.  bsd's a little more so, but not terribly03:29
kalenedraelyeah, the GUI pops up fairly fast03:29
sproingieyou want small, try qnx03:29
kalenedraellinux is as slim as you want it to be :P03:29
MasterChief01qnx?03:29
MasterChief01kalenedrael - More like as slim as you are willing to deal with the command line. :)  Personally I want to keep my interaction to the line at a minimum so I don't blow up my comp.03:30
sproingieMasterChief01: super tiny microkernel os03:30
MasterChief01sproingie - Ah.03:30
kalenedraelyes, i suppose03:30
kalenedraelthough there are very light window managers03:30
sproingieqnx is used in a lot of embedded stuff03:30
ray_what do you guys think of freebsd and such03:31
kalenedraelsomeone needs to make a graphical system other than X03:31
MasterChief01sproingie - I see.03:31
sproingieray_: love it.  would use it if i hadn't stupidly gotten an ATI card03:31
kalenedraelX has a LOT of overhead03:31
kalenedraelyuck, ATI03:31
ray_sproingie: they dont support ati?03:31
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MasterChief01kal - WHo knows?  Might be a while though, since it seems KDE and Gnome are the defacto standard.03:31
=== MasterChief01 has an ATI X800 Pro, actually.
kalenedraelyeah03:31
ray_i have an ati03:32
kalenedraeli like KDE03:32
ray_works great too03:32
ray_i like linux and kde03:32
kalenedraelit's not that 'light', but i don't care so much03:32
MasterChief01Nice card, renders HL2 nicely.  That reminds me, I need to find wine...03:32
sproingieray_: more to say ATI doesn't support anything but linux and windows.  and barely linux at that03:32
MasterChief01sproingie - So true.03:32
MasterChief01How's nVidia about linux support?03:32
kalenedraelATI linux support sucks03:32
MasterChief01I might go with them next time.03:32
kalenedraelnvidia has great linux support03:32
ray_sproingie: so whats a good card to have ndivia?03:33
=== MasterChief01 makes a note to get an nVidia card when upgrade time comes.
sproingieyep.  it's still closed-source, but they bend over backward to make it work03:33
kalenedraelclosed source, like ATI, but a lot better03:33
kalenedraelyeah03:33
sproingienvidia has accellerated drivers for freebsd too03:33
sproingiethey even have drivers for opensolaris.  not sure if that's 3d accel or not03:33
ray_hmm03:33
ray_there are more apps for linux though03:33
sproingieray_: and freebsd will run 'em all03:34
kalenedraelthe most important part is a libGL that supports hardware acceleration...03:34
ray_linux is gaining popularity03:34
MasterChief01sproingie - Sounds like they really care about their non-Windows customers, unlike ATI03:34
sproingieray_: often faster than linux itself03:34
kalenedraelanyone want to reverse-engineer the nvidia driver?03:34
ray_sproingie: i have the freebsd live cd and it works with my ati card03:34
sproingieMasterChief01: i think they just have a developer culture that isn't as constrained by corporate wonks03:34
kalenedraellinux has drivers for the ATI card, but they suck because they have no hardware acceleration03:34
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MasterChief01sproingie - There is that.03:35
kalenedraelsame with nvidia03:35
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ray_kalenedrael: i have 3d accel03:35
sproingieMasterChief01: ati has good engineers, and they probably want to make the drivers as good as they can.  they're probably being hobbled by management every step of the way03:35
kalenedraelray_, yes, but you have the proprietary drivers, too03:35
MasterChief01sproingie - I see.03:35
ray_kalenedrael: no i dont03:35
kalenedrael?03:35
kalenedraelwhat card, what driver?03:35
sproingiethere are open source accellerated drivers for ati cards now03:35
kalenedraelthere are, but only for old ones03:36
ray_kalenedrael: ati x300 fglrx driver.....its in the repos03:36
sproingiethey weren't all that mature a few months ago.  i'm told they're better03:36
sproingiekalenedrael: no, the r300 series, that includes the x800 too03:36
MasterChief01sproingie - Not from ATI I assume.03:36
kalenedraelodd03:36
ray_i play all sorts of games with crazy graphics03:36
sproingieMasterChief01: reverse engineered, of course03:36
MasterChief01sproingie - I see.03:36
esaci enabled the nvidia driver, and now my font sizes are a lot bigger, any idea ?03:37
MasterChief01esac - Higher resolution?03:37
sproingieesac: you might need to change your dpi settings03:37
MasterChief01That too.03:37
sproingiei think the BinaryDriverHowto has an item on that03:37
esacMasterChief01: the resolution stayed the same03:37
sproingieask ubotu in #ubuntu03:37
esacsproingie: how do i do that ?03:37
MasterChief01esac - Ah03:37
apokryphossproingie: he's here too :)03:38
esacok03:38
apokryphosubotu: hi03:38
ubotuhi, apokryphos03:38
esacubotu: binarydriverhowto03:38
ubotusomebody said binarydriverhowto was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto or ask !Display !Resolution !ati !nvidia Please use /msg <your_question> to avoid flooding the channel03:38
sproingieoh the bot's here too of course03:38
ray_if you edit xorg.conf you can add more resolutions03:40
esachmm dont see anything on dpi03:40
MasterChief01ray - Meh, I try to keep in my monitor's range, which is 1280x102403:40
ray_and?03:40
ray_i thought you wanted to adjust03:40
MasterChief01No, I was suggesting that to someone else03:41
MasterChief01Sorry for the misunderstanding.03:41
sproingieresolution isn't the whole picture03:41
sproingieif the font renderer has the wrong values for your DPI, it'll draw your fonts too big03:41
esacis there a setting somewhere for that ?03:41
MasterChief01You know, that 24-hour notation is starting to bug me.  How do you set the clock for 12-hour notation?03:41
MasterChief01sproingie - Ah, I see03:42
sproingiewhich is a welcome change from the usual brokenness of linux fonts in the past03:42
esacanybody using google talk yet ?03:42
sproingiewhere it would draw leeeeetle itty bitty fonts03:42
ray_google talk?03:42
MasterChief01google talk?03:42
sproingiegoogle talk?03:42
ray_do they make it for linux03:42
esacgoogle is running jabber chat servers now or something .. saw it linked off slashdot http://www.smashsworld.com/2005/08/im-on-google-talk-right-now.php03:42
sproingiei wonder if that's running on their hello.com stuff03:43
esactrying to set it up with gaim right now03:43
sproingiethey've had IM with hello.com for a while, they just kept it more or less quiet03:43
sproingiemostly picasa users who used it03:43
ray_what movie player do you guys use?03:45
MasterChief01ray - None yet.03:45
ray_MasterChief01: why not?03:45
MasterChief01Been focused on sound, and now I wanna wait till Kynaptic is finished.03:45
ray_MasterChief01: i thought you said you had sound03:46
MasterChief01Sound yes, CD playback no03:46
poMasterChief01 : kynaptic ins't finished yet?03:46
MasterChief01It's still all greyed out.03:46
ray_i had to compile and install the newest versions of alsa for my sound to work  : (03:46
ray_STILL03:46
MasterChief01Ouch.03:46
poMasterChief01 : maybe you should update to kde 3.4.2 ...03:47
ray_from like an hour ago?03:47
VeloxI use xine for a movie player.03:47
ray_kynaptic is a horrible app03:47
MasterChief01po - That doesn't happen in Kynaptic?03:47
MasterChief01ray - it seems so.03:47
Veloxray_: thats why I left Synaptic when I uninstalled GNOME.03:47
ray_yes it happens........but it is still greyed out from when i talked to you like half hour ago?03:48
poMasterChief01 : i think you should use synaptic ... kynaptic dons't display konsole errors ... and may still greyed out!03:48
MasterChief01Yep03:48
MasterChief01po- So I may just be stuck?03:48
ray_MasterChief01: it froze.......03:48
MasterChief01Ah.03:48
poi gess03:48
pokill it!03:48
ray_KILL IT!!!!!!!!!!03:49
MasterChief01Closed03:49
MasterChief01Now what do I have to clean out?03:49
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postart using synaptic ... 03:49
ray_MasterChief01: run synaptic03:49
MasterChief01Okay.03:50
EvanCarrollHow do I enable hardware mixing on my sound card, this new mobo has to support it, and yet I can only play on stream at a time03:50
MasterChief01Error: Unable to get exclusive lock03:50
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poit's because you dint' kill kynaptic!03:50
MasterChief01I closed the window... WHat else do I need to do?03:50
ray_should have killed it03:50
poit may still running 03:51
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MasterChief01po - How do I check?03:51
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ray_go into term and type........ kill kynaptic03:51
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MasterChief01I get the following error - bash: kill: kynaptic: arguments must be process or job IDs03:52
ray_oh03:52
posudo!03:52
sproingiekillall kynaptic03:53
ray_just do this03:53
ray_in term type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and gnome will install03:53
MasterChief01sproingie I entered what you told me and it just gave me another line03:53
MasterChief01Is that right?03:53
ray_yup03:53
MasterChief01Then kynaptic is dead.03:54
ray_now type in that command i told ya03:54
MasterChief01Okay03:54
ray_stupid gui package managers03:54
sproingieMasterChief01: not sure what kind of feedback killall gives.  that probably means it works03:54
poyou can use ksysguard (kmenu->system->KSysGuard) to see what is running03:54
ray_MasterChief01: is it downloading?03:55
MasterChief01Looking through Ksysguard now.03:55
MasterChief01ray - I got the error E: Invalid operation ubuntu-desktop03:55
MasterChief01And yes, Kynaptic is dead03:55
ray_MasterChief01: you need to type exacxtly this03:56
ray_sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop03:56
MasterChief01There we go03:56
MasterChief01Now it's connecting03:56
ray_you forgot to type install last time03:57
MasterChief01Yep03:57
MasterChief01This is going to take a while to get used to.  I'm glad I got you guys to walk me through it.03:57
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sproingiei always use aptitude03:57
gdarelAfternoon all, anyone know of a GUI video editor?03:58
sproingieit's a console app, a pretty good tradeoff between commandline and gui03:58
MasterChief01sproingie - I see.  I'll have to look into that when that's done03:58
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ray_aptitude is cool to03:58
sproingiesomeone was in #ubuntu this morning asking about video editing03:58
sproingiefree options are ... limited03:59
gdarelwhat are the paind options?03:59
sproingielinux goes straight from hobby-horse to super-expensive-high-end without much inbetween03:59
ray_untrue03:59
sproingiein terms of video editing, that's what i hear03:59
ray_oh sorry03:59
ray_im dumb04:00
MasterChief01Though I am curious.  What happens to all the files that Kynaptic downloaded?  Do I have to delete the caches manually?04:00
ray_avidemux is pretty good04:00
sproingieMasterChief01: if you're bored, you can.  unless you're tight on space you probably dont have to04:00
MasterChief01sproingie - I like to keep as little waste as possible.04:01
sproingieMasterChief01: /var/cache/apt/archives would be where the cached packages are04:01
ray_MasterChief01: chances are you need a lot of those to install gnome anyway04:01
MasterChief01ray - The setup/install of ubuntu-desktop is complete04:01
sproingiefar as i know apt never prunes the cache04:01
MasterChief01sproingie - Ah, thanks04:01
sproingiethere's probably some setting to change that04:01
sproingiebut apt configuration is ... hairy04:01
sproingieuses some weird notation kinda like bind904:02
MasterChief01hm, access denied.04:02
ray_MasterChief01: now if you log out then you can log into gnome04:02
sproingieMasterChief01: sudo04:02
ray_SUDO04:02
MasterChief01Okay, how do I do this in the command line?  What's the command?  Or can I do this in GUI as well?04:03
ray_do what04:03
MasterChief01the cache cleaning?04:03
pogdarel : try here http://kde-apps.org/?xcontentmode=22104:03
ray_sudo apt-get clean04:04
ray_sudo apt-get clean04:04
gdarelHTHANKS!04:04
MasterChief01ray_ thanks.04:05
ray_MasterChief01: also ........ sudo apt-get autoclean04:05
sproingieray's apt kung-fu is strong04:05
MasterChief01Indeed.04:06
MasterChief01VERY strong indeed.04:06
MasterChief01BRB, logging out and in again.04:06
powill MasterChief01 know how to use gnome?04:07
sproingiestay tuned04:07
sproingiesame halo time ... same halo irc channel04:08
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po:)04:08
sproingiei keep reading "master chief" as "master chef"04:08
sproingiei'd love to see a mod for halo that turns him into the swedish chef04:08
sproingieor maybe emeril....  "let's kick it up a notch"04:09
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MasterChief01Cool, worked.04:10
poso?04:10
MasterChief01?04:10
poyou're running gnome?04:10
MasterChief01Yep04:10
pohow do you feel?!04:10
MasterChief01Hehe, like I managed to accomplish something without completely destroying my comp.04:11
MasterChief01And, holy sheep shit my CD is playing!04:11
powhith sound?04:12
MasterChief01Yep04:12
pocool!04:12
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pomaybe you should try to update your kde packages as well just to try to make it work whith kde04:12
MasterChief01po Good idea.  I assume you do that with apt-get as well?04:13
poyes but you havo to ad the repositories04:13
potry to find gnome-terminal04:13
MasterChief01Okay.04:14
posudo gedit04:14
MasterChief01Okay, I'm in gedit04:14
poopen /etc/apt/sources.list04:15
MasterChief01Open04:15
pocopy+paste this04:16
MasterChief01oops, closed it by accident, hold on one sec04:16
podeb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main04:16
MasterChief01Okay, loading up the page...04:16
po?? don't load the page ... copy "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main" at the end of sources.list04:17
kinfoNo match for "don't"04:17
podon't load the page ... copy "deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 hoary-updates main" at the end of sources.list04:17
MasterChief01With the " marks or no?04:18
pono ""04:18
MasterChief01Do I put a #?04:18
pono ... # means "ignore this line"04:18
posave and close04:18
MasterChief01Okay, I pasted that line to the end, and now I'm saving04:18
MasterChief01Okay, gedit is closed.04:19
pothen "apt-get update" (no "")04:19
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MasterChief01I had to sudo that command.04:19
poyes04:20
poi forgot04:20
pothen apt-get upgrade (not update)04:20
MasterChief01Hm, failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/dists/hoary-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz04:20
fromozenot yet kde 3.4.2 amd64 packages 04:21
MasterChief01Ah.04:21
fromozemust wait :)04:21
MasterChief01Ah.04:21
fromozelike I do ;)04:21
MasterChief01Oh well, I'm happy with Gnome for now.04:21
pook04:21
fromozebut 3.4.1 works04:22
MasterChief01fro - True.04:22
fromozejust change kde342 to kde34104:22
MasterChief01Fro - Okay, let me do that...04:23
MasterChief01Okay, running the There, that was fast.04:24
MasterChief01That's funny... I did install RealPlayer, but when I click the realplayer shortcut I get this error - "Cannot launch entry    Details: Failed to ececute child process realplay (no such file or directory)"04:25
poMasterChief01 : (about kde 3.4.1) if you did "sudo apt-get update" i suppose you can now do "sudo apt-get upgrade" to complete de update04:27
MasterChief01Okay, thanks for the reminder04:27
MasterChief01I assume these write over the old versions?04:28
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poi assume that too04:28
MasterChief01Okay.04:29
MasterChief01Though if this keeps going as well as it is, Ubuntu's going to get a lot more space on the HD soon... This is pretty good...04:29
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pothat's right ... you must keep trying04:32
MasterChief01Indeed.04:32
poone day or another things start to work04:33
MasterChief01Indeed.  Seems like this was the day linux started to work for me.  Though I will of course be printing out some apt-get and other important command line commands for reference/study04:34
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SubvertirHi guys, is there a kubuntu repository that I can use to (safely) migrate from Debian Unstable to Kubuntu?04:36
Subvertiror at least, reasonably safe. Or, worst case, might work but if it doesn't stfu noob.04:36
Subvertirthere's like 100 people here, and everyone is idle?04:38
MasterChief01Sorry...04:38
MasterChief01One sec...04:38
fromozeSubvertir: official mirrors can do it, no?04:38
SubvertirI'm not sure...04:39
MasterChief01Subvertir - Well the repositories for Ubuntu have done well for me so far.  I only had to add one to update my KDE desktop04:40
SubvertirSo I add the Ubuntu repositories and the Kubuntu repo? 04:40
Subvertircool04:40
MasterChief01I guess.  I've never used another distro...04:40
Subvertirthis will likely cause severe breakage04:41
SubvertirI don't even like this computer, so that's fine.04:41
MasterChief01Now now, think positive04:41
MasterChief01Damn it, I REinstalled RealPlayer, and I still get that error.04:42
_frankSubvertir: I think the libraries in unstable are later versions than hoary... it might be hard to migrate04:42
SubvertirWon't apt default to not updating them?04:42
SubvertirI can just pray none of the new stuff causes breakage04:42
Subvertirand if it does, I'll just leave it sit for about 9 months =)04:43
_frankpackages in the hoary repositories often don't want to install if you don't have the hoary libraries04:43
Subvertiroh, it's like libtool-2.7-hoary or something?04:43
_frank-ubuntu04:44
_frankyeah04:44
_frankfor whatever reason install debian libraries in ubuntu is a bad iedea04:44
fromozeSubvertir: one thing, don't use the us.archives.ubuntu.com url, is the more problematic one :)04:45
MasterChief01Anyone know how to remove a program once it's installed?  I'm done with Realplayer, at least for now.04:45
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Subvertirfi.archives seems to be doing ok04:47
_frankMasterChief01: did you install with apt?04:47
Subvertir216kb/s I can live with04:47
poMasterChief01 : it was a .bin file right ? i don't know how to unistall it ... maybe jus delete the directory where you installed it? (or maybe not)04:47
MasterChief01Frank - No, I followed the instructions at real.com04:47
_frankoh04:48
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MasterChief01po - I wanna wait before doing that, so I don't end up having registry problems.04:48
kevinrosehello04:48
_frankMasterChief01: did it install as a user? in /home?04:48
kevinroseI am kevinrose!04:48
SubvertirI wish I hadn't dist-upgraded last week04:48
MasterChief01Frank - Yes04:48
kevinroseI am a media whore04:48
MasterChief01As was the defualt04:48
kevinrosehee04:48
SubvertirI'd be able to just do this cleanly, because all of my debian libs would be way out of date04:48
kevinroseheh*04:48
_frankthere may be an uninstall scrip I don't know. but just deleting should be ok.04:48
MasterChief01Frank - Okay.  And the shortcut in "sound & Video"?04:49
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_frankum... right click the menu and edit menu04:50
_frankthe easy way to install realplayer is with synaptic or kynaptic04:50
_frank!repositories04:50
ubotuhmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto04:50
SubvertirI like mplayer04:50
_frankyou need backports for the latest version of realplayer04:50
MasterChief01_frank - I see.  Hold on, I'm trying to actually uninstall this damned thing... WOn't let me go to root for even a sec to uninstall via the GUI04:51
MasterChief01backports?04:51
SubvertirI actually use mplayer on win32, and even compiled with cygwin and runtime CPU detection, it plays hi-res files better than WMP04:51
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poMasterChief01: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/04:52
_frank!backports04:52
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section04:52
MasterChief01Ah, I see.04:53
MasterChief01Frank - Do you know how to delete a locked folder?04:53
_frankyou mean its owned by root?04:53
MasterChief01Yeah.  The installation of realplayer is root-owned04:53
MasterChief01apparently04:54
_frankis the folder in /home?04:54
MasterChief01Yes04:54
MasterChief01It's in /home/revan04:54
_frankjust sudo rm -r /home/user/realplayer or whatever04:54
_franksudo rm -r can hurt you... watch out!04:55
MasterChief01Frank - I'll be cautious.04:55
MasterChief01And there goes that damned realplayer install.04:55
MasterChief01Now I gotta figure out how to remove the menu shortcut.04:56
_frankright click the menu to edit it04:58
poMasterChief01 : do it on kde ... it's simplier ... i don't think you can edit the menus on gnome just by right clik+edit menu ...04:58
MasterChief01Thanks for the tip, po04:58
_frankoh for gnome, you need to install smeg to edit menus04:58
SubvertirI use quanta and kate over xdmcp... it's nice04:58
MasterChief01Lemmie log out one sec04:58
Subvertira lot faster than I expected it to be04:58
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MasterChief01Well I deleted it in KDE, then came back to Gnome, where it's still there...05:03
MasterChief01The shortcut I mean.05:03
_frankare you sure there wasn't an uninstall script?05:03
MasterChief01Not that I could see, no.05:04
_frankmaybe runing the .bin again would've given you the option to uninstall05:04
MasterChief01I did that when I reinstalled.05:04
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_frankanyways you need smeg to edit the gnome menu05:05
MasterChief01And I get this where?05:05
_frank!smeg05:05
ubotusmeg is, like, totally, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.05:05
_frankput backports in your repositories. There is alot of good stuff in backports05:05
MasterChief01Indeed.  Lemmie just get that backports link again...05:06
jsubl2!backports05:07
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section05:07
_frankhttp://backports.ubuntuforums.org/05:07
MasterChief01Found it.05:08
MasterChief01Thanks. :)05:08
_frankyou can also get w32codecs and java in backports (hoary-extras)05:08
MasterChief01Okay, lets see how this works...05:09
MasterChief01<b>deb  http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports</b>05:11
MasterChief01So that space is necessary too, before hoary-backports?05:12
MasterChief01(Just making sure05:12
poyes05:12
MasterChief01Okay, this is what I've written in the sources.list file05:13
MasterChief01deb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted05:14
MasterChief01deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ oary-backports main universe multiverse restricted05:14
MasterChief01deb ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted05:14
MasterChief01deb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ oary-extras main universe multiverse restricted05:14
MasterChief01That right?05:14
_frankmissing a few h05:14
_frankbut yeah05:14
_frankdid you install synaptic?05:14
MasterChief01Thanks for pointing out the typo.05:15
MasterChief01Yes.05:15
MasterChief01Funny, thought I had, but I don't see it...05:15
_franksynaptic is much better than kynaptic05:16
MasterChief01sudo apt-get synaptic right?05:16
_frankyeah or use kynaptic to install synaptic05:16
MasterChief01Invalid operation synaptic?05:17
_franksudo apt-get install synaptic05:18
MasterChief01Looks like I need to run update to correct some problems.05:19
_frankyes you do since you canged the sources.list05:19
MasterChief01Oh hell, the update won't work, a whole bunch of stuff can't be opened....05:20
MasterChief01Guess I'll take the kynaptic to synaptic route.05:20
MasterChief01Bah, guess I gotta change to KDE... logging out.05:21
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MasterChief01Back, and it's funny, I found Synaptic on KDE...05:24
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MasterChief01W: Couldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/public.planetmirror.com_pub_ubuntu-backports_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:27
MasterChief01W: Couldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/public.planetmirror.com_pub_ubuntu-backports_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:27
MasterChief01W: Couldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/public.planetmirror.com_pub_ubuntu-backports_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:27
MasterChief01W: Couldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/public.planetmirror.com_pub_ubuntu-backports_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:27
MasterChief01W: Couldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com oary-extras/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/public.planetmirror.com_pub_ubuntu-backports_dists_oary-extras_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:27
MasterChief01W: Couldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com oary-extras/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/public.planetmirror.com_pub_ubuntu-backports_dists_oary-extras_universe_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:27
MasterChief01W: Couldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com oary-extras/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/public.planetmirror.com_pub_ubuntu-backports_dists_oary-extras_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:27
MasterChief01W: Couldn't stat source package list http://public.planetmirror.com oary-extras/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/public.planetmirror.com_pub_ubuntu-backports_dists_oary-extras_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:27
_frankdont paste stuff like that!!!!!!05:27
_frankdont paste stuff like that!!!!!!05:27
_frankdont paste stuff like that!!!!!!05:27
MasterChief01Sorry for the flood, but I needed to show this error window.05:27
SubvertirI just dist-upgraded to kubuntu, and the box is still running fine (fwiw!)05:27
MasterChief01My apologies.05:27
_frank#flood05:27
Subvertirmustn't restart it for a while now!05:27
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SubvertirI forgive you05:28
Subvertiryou were pwnt by the ol middle click?05:28
_frankdid you add the h back?05:28
MasterChief01Yes.05:28
_frankckports_dists_oary-extras_m05:28
MasterChief01Lemmie look again.05:28
fromozenot only #flood05:29
fromoze!pastebin05:29
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:29
fromozegood night :)05:29
MasterChief01Thanks05:29
MasterChief01Okay, there was a second h needing insertion.  My fault. :)05:30
MasterChief01Now Synaptic is working...05:30
MasterChief01Okay, it works for a while then vanishes.05:30
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MasterChief01Hm, need video codecs...05:33
_frankw32codecs05:34
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_frankin backports05:34
Subvertirokay! it works.05:34
MasterChief01Frank - Thanks.05:34
MasterChief01Okay, seems planetmirror is useless...05:35
_frankI don't have that mirrot05:35
_frankI don't have that mirror05:35
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MasterChief01Lets see how ftp2.caliu.info/backports/ does...05:36
_frank<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">05:36
_frank<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">05:36
_frank<head>05:36
_frank<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />05:36
EasterSunshineuh oh05:36
MasterChief01Frank - ?05:36
_frank<meta name="Generator" content="Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor" />05:36
EasterSunshinehes pasting a whole html doc05:37
_frank</head>05:37
_frank<body>05:37
_frank<pre>05:37
_frankdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted</pre></body>05:37
_frank</html>05:37
_frankwhat???05:37
_frank#deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted05:37
_frankI just copy pasted05:37
EasterSunshineubotu tell frank about paste05:37
EasterSunshineoh crap i told the wrong frank05:37
_frankhehe05:37
EasterSunshineubotu tell _frank about paste05:37
MasterChief01Frank - The backports site said to replace that url with one of the mirrors05:37
_frankMasterChief01: I just use this one05:37
_frankI didn't intend to flood05:38
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MasterChief01frank - Okay, let me add that one then.05:39
MasterChief01Okay, put one for backports and one for extras...05:40
MasterChief01Why does KDE hate CDs so much?05:42
_franksuggestion: disable backports when you don't need them: comment them out with #05:43
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MasterChief01Not a bad idea.05:43
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MasterChief01Synaptic is already newest version, so we're good there...05:45
kainoshow do i know if my laptops modem is working properly?05:45
_frankbecause if you do an upgrade with them on, it will upgrade a bunch of stuff you don't really need upgraded05:45
MasterChief01Frank -  I see.05:45
kainoshow do i know if my laptops modem is working properly?...Is there a utlity which i can use?05:46
MasterChief01BRB, gonna reboot05:46
_franknot really sure... if its not a winmodem, it should be fine05:46
kainoswinmodem works under linux as well?05:47
_frankwell some do, some don't I think... I have no experience with them05:48
kainosi am installin efax because its easier that hylafax. but it cant seem to detect my modem . i have tried devices such as ttyS0, ttyS1 etc...but nothing works05:50
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MasterChief01There, got in some updates.  Though I'm having trouble finding a good avi codec on Synaptic...06:03
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_frankwhat do you mean?06:05
MasterChief01I'm trying to open some avis, but they won't play.06:05
_frankwith w32codecs, you should have pretty much everything you need06:05
MasterChief01Let's see if I can find that one...06:05
_frankdo you know what codec you need?06:05
_frankw32codecs in synaptic06:06
MasterChief01Thanks.  Meanwhile, what I need is Divx and DVD support06:06
MasterChief01Can't find w32codecs in Synaptic06:07
_frankits in backports (hoary-extras) only on x86 though06:08
MasterChief01Bahhh...06:08
MasterChief01Of course there wouldn't be one for x86_64...06:08
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MasterChief01Welcome back, Frank.06:12
_frankstill there?06:12
MasterChief01Yeah.06:12
kainoswhy is it so damn hard to configure modem from linux06:12
_frankfor divx, you need ffmpeg 06:13
_franknot sure if its there by default06:13
_frankkainos: is it a winmodem?06:13
kainosu mean d modem im using? i dnt know its in my laptop06:14
MasterChief01"ffmpeg" can't be found with Synaptic.  I'm somehow not surprised...06:14
kainosm a newbie..m sorry06:14
_frankMasterChief01: its in there 06:14
MasterChief01I already have the latest gstreamer and libavcodec-dev06:15
MasterChief01Frank - Probably another thing x86_64 is missing out on...06:15
PoromiesMasterChief01: there is a how-to on forums to get w32codecs to amd6406:15
Poromiesjust a sec and I'll get it for ya06:16
_frankyeah I used to use amd64 and changed to x86 -- its like heaven compared to the problems you run into with amd6406:16
MasterChief01Thanks, that'd be much appreciated.06:16
MasterChief01frank - I can tell.06:16
_frankI had setup a chroot to run the 32bit programs06:18
MasterChief01A what?06:18
_franka 32bit OS within the 64bit one06:18
MasterChief01Ah.  Does that take up a lot of space?06:19
_frankwell you need all the libraries all over again06:19
_frankso yeah06:19
MasterChief01Ah.  Lovely.  An extra gig or two.06:19
_frankfrankly, I suggest using x8606:20
MasterChief01Yeah, probably gonna end up doing that.  Most likely it'll be another year or two before x86_64 is fully supported.06:20
MasterChief01Heh.  Poor AMD06:20
_frankI learned alot setting up everything amd6406:20
_frankactually, ubuntu will have a way to install 32bit programs sometime06:21
MasterChief01I imagine...06:21
MasterChief01Oh?06:21
_frankwindows x64 does the same thing. IE is still 32bit06:21
_frankits not transparent yet in linux though06:22
MasterChief01Hehe, I see.06:22
MasterChief01http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30303.html Let's see if this works...06:23
_frankI'll wait until it becomes painless to switch to x86_6406:23
MasterChief01Good idea.06:23
MasterChief01Poor AMD, rushing out 64-bit processors and there's so little support...06:23
_frankwell amd's chip are still the best performing when running x86 code06:24
MasterChief01True.06:25
MasterChief01I'll worry about it some other time.  Right now, I need sleep.06:26
MasterChief01Night all.06:26
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pc09#bethany06:37
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arcanistheroguehey, I have some questions about Doom for linux06:50
arcanistherogueDoom 2, I mean06:50
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richardkhello06:50
arcanistherogueI have been using legacy doom, do they make this for windows?06:50
richardki have a question06:50
arcanistherogueyeah?06:51
arcanistherogueperhaps i can help 06:51
richardki need what to add to the repositories list in synaptics to get universe and multiverse lists of programs06:51
richardki need to know this please06:52
arcanistheroguepardon?06:52
arcanistherogueoh i think i get it, you want to expand your repositories?06:52
richardkyes06:52
arcanistherogueyou can find out at http://ubuntuguide.org06:52
arcanistherogueuse find for repositores06:52
arcanistherogue*repositories06:52
arcanistheroguectrl-f06:53
arcanistheroguegot it?06:54
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kakaltohow can I list all the currently running programs?08:12
Subvertirps aux08:13
Subvertirpstree08:13
kakaltothanks08:20
kakaltoalas, it didn't help >.<08:22
kakaltoI tried running googletalk in wine, and now I have the googletalk window not responding, but taking up some of my screen08:23
kakaltothe problem is, I didn't run in directly through a terminal08:23
kakaltobleh08:26
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diginet?08:32
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_4rteyop yop08:47
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jehthe page http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php could mention that the 3.4.2 packages require "universe" to be enabled for all packages to be installed08:59
jehkdepim won't get installed because it depends on kleopatra which needs some extra stuff08:59
_frankjeh: I guess... most people who update kde would have universe enabled but you're right. I don't know who can edit that09:05
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jehi just stumbled over it yesterday with a fresh installed machine where i wanted 3.4.209:05
jehbut i guess you're right, any system that's been in use for a while probably has it enabled09:05
thoreauputiccan someone type my nick, please?09:06
_frankthoreauputic: 09:06
thoreauputicthanks :)09:06
_franknp09:07
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thoreauputicThe colour highlighting wasn't showing on my dark background, so I needed to change it - yellow on dark blue shows up nicely now ;)09:08
_frankok09:08
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ThardasIs there any downsides in adding universe in sources.list?09:30
nikkiaThardas: not particularly09:33
ThardasOf course there's some software which isn't supported but universe's and normal repository's packages won't conflict?09:34
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thoreauputicnikkia: I solved the mystery of urxvt not incrementing utmp :)09:36
nikkiathoreauputic: permissions ?09:36
nikkiaThardas: they shouldn't09:37
nikkiaThardas: as far as i know, there shouldn't be any packages that are in universe *and* somewhere else, its possible that you might run into dependancy issues though, but i think thats unlikely09:37
thoreauputicnikkia: chown root:utmp /usr/bin/urxvt && chmod g+s /usr/bin/urxvt 09:37
nikkiathoreauputic: yeah, as i thought09:37
thoreauputicnikkia: :)09:37
thoreauputicnikkia: that doesn't work for konsole, though, for some reason09:38
thoreauputicnikkia: but since I don't use konsole, I'm not too bothered09:38
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matthewanyone got google talk working with kopete?09:54
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fatejudgeris there any way to check if your video card is working properly in linux?09:59
fatejudgerI tried using cedega (winex) and it says my video card drivers aren't there10:00
fatejudgeror something to that effect anyway10:00
fatejudgeranyone?10:01
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fatejudgeris anyone even here?10:03
Poromiesyep, but i dont know anything about cedega/wine/x10:04
Poromiesyou might have better luck asking in ubuntu channel, or go to wine forums/irc-channel10:05
fatejudgerwell10:05
fatejudgerit isn't really a cedega problem10:05
fatejudgerits a video card problem10:05
fatejudgerso I don't know where to go10:05
fatejudgerif I install the Linux Nvidia driver to just to be sure it's installed correctly will it fuck anything up?10:06
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nI'm trying to compile plptools w/ KDE support but it just keeps saying checking for Qt... (single-threaded) (multi-threaded) configure: error: Qt (>= 19991109) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!10:10
nI've tried everything I can think of- all the KDE + QT dev files are installed, and I've tried pointing configure towards them but to no avail10:10
nCould it be something to do with it wanting an old QT- it says it compiles for KDE 3 though10:11
nikkian, check the config.log file, its probaably that its trying to use an old Qt function that doesn't exist anymore10:12
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hvmhello10:24
hvmi need some help, pls10:24
hvmhello, anyone?10:25
tvohvm: just ask10:27
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hvmoh, ok10:28
hvmhow do i log into the root user?10:28
tvoby default, that's impossible, because (k)ubuntu uses sudo10:29
tvolet me find the link10:29
hvmaha10:29
hvmthat sucks10:29
nikkiahvm, if you want a shell session as root, use sudo -s or sudo -i10:29
hvmok10:29
hvmthanks10:30
nikkiawhich are analogies for su and su - respectively10:30
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hvmthanks10:30
tvohvm: here is more info --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:31
hvmok, thanks again10:32
cem0rhvm: Do you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu?10:32
hvmkubuntu10:32
cem0rHowever, yesterday someone posted this this link: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/156510:32
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cem0rIf you just want to do some file operations in KDE you can also use this: kdesu -c konqueror10:33
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cem0rerrr .. some file operations as root10:34
hvmok, 10x10:34
cem0rnull problemo10:35
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nikkiauhoh10:39
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nikkianot good words to hear your boss utter 'those arseholes in <insert other office location that is working on the same strategic contract as you> have f***ed up, and aren't going to supply their project on time'10:43
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locomortohey guys11:01
cem0rhey guy ;)11:01
locomortogoogle talk is out!11:02
locomortowww.google.com/talk11:02
locomortoit works with kopete as far as i can tell11:02
locomortoCreate a new account go Jabber11:02
locomortofor username place in your whole gmail address (eg kde@gmail.com)11:02
locomortocheck the use SSL11:02
locomortogo connection11:03
locomortocheck the override server settings11:03
locomortoand place in talk.google.com11:03
locomortothen voila11:03
nikkialocomorto: its not the whole gmail address11:10
locomortoit is for me11:10
nikkialocomorto: it gives auth failed doing that, the google docs say to use the part BEFORE @gmail11:10
locomortoKopete wont accept it otherwise anyway11:10
locomortoand i seemed to log in fine...11:10
nikkiahmmm11:10
nikkiai get auth failed with my gmail address11:10
locomortodo you have SSL enabled?11:11
locomortoThe Jabber ID you have chosen is invalid. Please make sure it is in the form user@server.com, like an email address.11:11
nikkianope, i tried that, it said the server doesn't support SSL11:11
locomortodo you have the server set to talk.google.com11:11
nikkiaah, its not talk.google.com11:12
nikkianope, that doesn't work either, gah11:12
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Aapzakhello everyone11:19
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AapzakI have work to do, speak to you later!11:24
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buzwhat could it be that sensors detects everything BUT fan speed on my "new" asus k8v?11:43
buzalso i'm wondering if ksysguard can somehow display harddisk temperatures?11:44
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nCan I can kdb2html for kubuntu? I need it to compile plptools12:24
thoreauputicpeter@prospero:~$ apt-cache search plptools12:26
thoreauputicplptools - Access a Psion PDA over a serial link12:26
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thoreauputicplptools is in the universe repository12:26
nthoreau: The plptools package for ubuntu doesn't come with kpsion, which is why i need to compile it12:27
thoreauputicah, OK12:27
nso, is there a way to search all the different ubuntu packages for kdb2html?12:27
thoreauputicapt-cache search kdb2html   - but I just did that and got no output12:28
thoreauputic!find  kdb2html12:28
thoreauputicI suspect it isn't in any repos... unless ubotu is still looking... ;)12:29
nI dunno why kpsion was left out as it is part of suse 9,3 and MDK 10.212:29
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'kdb2html' returned no results.12:30
nikkiamorning apokryphos12:30
apokryphosnikkia: loud music, and parents actually semi-waking me up to "help clean up". :/12:30
nikkiaapokryphos: heh12:30
apokryphosit's like school12:31
nikkiaapokryphos: i got a phone call from my boss today12:31
apokryphosheh12:31
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noh well! I've tried everything I can think of now, just waiting to see if I hear anything back from ubuntus plptools maintainer, see if he can help12:31
nikkiaon his way to the office of the other team working on this strategic contract... he started with 'those arseholes at <insert name of other office> have f***ed up, so your project is now our primary focus on this contract because they can't f***ing deliver on time'12:31
apokryphos:-O12:32
apokryphosPosition of power nikkia, position of power. Mwuahaha (evil laugh)12:32
tapanimi need dvd/cd burning program. best?12:32
nikkiaapokryphos: i said 'now isn't a good time to say it won't be finished by friday, then?' :)12:32
jehtapanim: k3b12:32
nikkiatapanim: k3b12:32
tapanimok12:33
nikkiatapanim: altho it has some issues with DVDs :/12:33
tapanimthanks 12:33
jehthat was easy12:33
apokryphosnikkia: Heh. More work? ;/12:33
nikkiaapokryphos: yeah12:33
apokryphosnikkia: not recommending NeroLinux yet? ;-)12:33
nikkiaapokryphos: a long list of 'fixes' from our tester12:33
nikkiaapokryphos: its not free, so12:33
apokryphosyah12:34
apokryphosnikkia: ok, gotta go; they're annoyed I'm not helping ;-)12:34
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tapanim/exit12:37
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bernadinehelp. im having a hardtime installing HylaFaxServer12:56
bernadineit cant seem to detect my mdem12:56
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bernadineafter installing hylafax ... do i still need to compile?01:06
bernadinenewbie here01:06
bernadinecan anybody help?01:10
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tapanimwhat is Qt and how i get it?01:14
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nHow do I 'regenerate a configure file'?01:17
jehtapanim: www.trolltech.com01:29
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theuserHihu, when i upgrade ( aptitude upgrade ) i get an error " 'swap0' does not have a valid block device in /etc/crypttab " any idea ?01:35
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theuserdone. :)01:44
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chilehola a todos02:14
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bahagiatesttest02:25
MrPokeit is working02:25
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antrixhello.. anyone able to connect to google talk using kopete?02:56
pointwoodI'm connected it seems, but I haven't been able to talk to others...02:58
poantrix : read this http://oisch.blogspot.com/2005/08/google-does-it-again.html02:58
antrixpo, i was doing that.. install qca-tls and for several tries it gave me connection errors...02:59
antrixpo, but started working now!03:00
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pointwood:)03:00
pointwoodnow try to add me: jramskov@gmail.com03:00
antrixone sec03:00
pointwoodI bet it doesn't work though03:01
pointwoodhey!03:01
pointwoodit did03:01
antrixyep, 03:01
antrixbut is it kopete2kopete only?03:01
pointwoodjust tried with another person that uses the google client...that didn't work...03:01
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pointwoodah...I just did it wrong before03:02
pointwoodI've succesfully added another person now03:03
antrixcool03:03
pointwoodthat uses the google client that is03:03
antrixi've to look for someone to add :)03:03
pointwoodhehe03:03
pointwoodso far only gmail users :(03:03
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blaqI've got an AMD Duron and was wondering which kernel would be best. Should i go the 686 kernel or the K7 kernel?03:39
clem_yeats_awayblaq : I've got a Duron and things work great with x86.03:40
blaqyeah but imagine how much BETTER they could work03:41
blaq...03:41
blaq?03:41
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clem_yeats_awaywell...03:43
clem_yeats_awaythings can always be better03:43
clem_yeats_awaythere is no happiness without contentment though.03:43
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nikkiablaq: i don't think it honestly makes much difference03:46
nikkiablaq: in theory, the k7 kernel can be slightly faster, as it can optimise with 3dnow instructions, but i doubt there's much in the kernel that makes real use of those types of optimisations anyway03:47
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nikkia(and those few places that can, will get SSE instructions on the 686 kernel, and there's not really much real-world speed difference between an occasional SSE block and an occasional 3dnow block)03:48
blaqyeah fair call03:51
nikkiablaq, really, its up to you, although i've heard some people say they had problems with the k7 kernel, but i'd take that with a grain of salt - people have problems with all kinds of stuff that just works for everyone else :)03:55
blaqyeah i've compiled my own kernels before and when one doesn't work, its a bit of a pain in the arse trying to get it all going again, especially when i don't have a floppy drive in this computer04:00
blaqso i think i might just leave it if its working04:01
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xxxHi04:10
xxxQuestion on SANE, i did not find anything...04:10
xxxwhat would be the best solution for tis?04:11
xxxcurrently I chmodded /dev/sg worldwritable and readabele04:11
xxxnow users can also use xsane, but this is not the best solution, I think...04:11
xxxthe question was: users can not read /write to /dev/sg2, that is my scanner, only root can04:12
xxxusing / as a first char is not good in irc ;)04:12
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nikkiaxxx, i think you'll find that /dev/sg* belongs to the group 'disk', if so, add users to that group and they should be able to access the scanner04:14
nikkiaxxx, a more elegant solution would be to define a group 'scanner', and use a udev rule to make sure that the scanner's scsi-generic device node gets set to that group (you'll want to check against the vendor/model, as other things get /dev/sg nodes besides the scanner)04:15
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bjorn_hi, are there any kubuntu colony 3 out?04:40
bjorn_or is it just ubuntu that have the beta?04:40
apokryphosbjorn_: ISOs are built daily for Breezy, so -- yes and no04:40
apokryphosHeh, a KGet "simple UI" proposed: http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=28160&PHPSESSID=c5ea313698866068556175ade424894f Is it me, or should this have been done ten years ago?04:41
apokryphosbjorn_: cdimage.ubuntu.com04:41
bjorn_ok04:41
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pussfellerhope this offical update fixes k3b04:46
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Nate1why do I have such a hard time attempting to ./configure, make, and make install on Kubuntu?  I've tried putting on all development packages needed, and libraries.04:55
apokryphosNate1: it's useless if you don't give us specific errors04:56
Nate1I understand.04:56
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Rogue_Jedi_ZeroI just downloaded Kpackage. Looks cool enough, at least until Breezy comes out with adept, but somehow it isn't working for me05:04
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroIt wants the command su, which doesn't work in Kubuntu05:05
jpatrickthen do: sudo su05:05
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroNo, it does that automatically05:06
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroI select some random packages, click Apply, then a window pops up with the already entered command su and a password prompt05:07
apokryphosRogue_Jedi_Zero: yes, there's a problem in KPackage05:07
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jpatrickI never liked KPackage05:07
apokryphosit hasn't been configured to use sudo, so you actually need to use your su pass when it requests it05:07
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Rogue_Jedi_ZeroSo, I should probably just kill it, huh?05:07
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apokryphosRogue_Jedi_Zero: I don't think so. It's my favourite GUI front-end to APT by quite a bit, at the moment.05:08
_liquidfire!ntfs05:08
ubotuwell, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.05:08
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroI see. I'll fiddle around with it some more then05:09
amu!gnome05:09
ubotufrom memory, gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.05:09
_liquidfire!kde05:10
ubotuA powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/05:10
apokryphosfor end-users? What's that.05:10
amu:) hehe 05:10
amu!gnoppix05:11
ubotuamu: What?05:11
_liquidfireI love kde05:11
_liquidfire:o05:11
_liquidfirebut more unstable05:11
_liquidfirebut much more appealing05:11
_liquidfireimo05:11
apokryphosamu: I really never knew that gnoppix was Ubuntu-derived. Thought it was always out there, just a less-popular alternate to knoppix05:12
amu!/sbin/halt 05:12
ubotuamu: Do they come in packets of five?05:12
apokryphosubotu: gnoppix is <reply> Gnoppix is a linux live cd based upon Ubuntu . Similar to Knoppix, but it uses the GNOME Desktop Environment. See: http://gnoppix.org05:13
ubotuapokryphos: okay05:13
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroSpiffy05:14
amuapokryphos: hehe, we have all our dirty secrets :) 05:14
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroCan it do russian roulette too? :)05:14
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_liquidfirehmm05:16
apokryphosamu: so the project is going well? How many people are there working on it?05:16
apokryphosI'm wondering what's wrong with the Ubuntu LiveCD that they've got this fork :P05:17
apokryphosa double-fork: ubuntu+knoppix05:17
_liquidfiredoes enlightment also work for kde ?05:18
amuapokryphos: yeah all is fine, i can build all kind of liveCd's on every arch in max. 30 min. thats cool. I'm the only one :) working on a webgui, user can click and customize his own liveCD with a few clicks and some minutes later he can download his own iso :)  05:18
_liquidfiredoes enlightment also work for kde ?05:18
apokryphosamu: wow! Quite the expert :). 05:19
apokryphosamu: where is this webgui? Sounds very interesting. :)05:19
amuapokryphos: guess who make the kubuntu liveCDs :) 05:20
apokryphos_liquidfire: it should. You should be able to run alternative window managers with KDE05:20
apokryphosamu: Yup, I remember reading that you were behind them. :P05:20
apokryphosGreat things05:20
_liquidfirek 05:20
amuapokryphos: yep, also a company is very very interessed in this, it need huge amount of discspace and cpu :) I'll do if i have time left and fun05:21
apokryphosReally grea to here; I hope it goes well. =)05:22
apokryphosI'm tempted to download it even though it's gnome :P05:22
amuthe funny thing is the gnome guys also building their liveCd's they fight, invest their time, while i build them in 30min. ;)05:22
apokryphosI'll go for the torrent 8)05:22
apokryphoshehehe, good going05:23
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_liquidfireapokryphos: can I choose at the beginning which window manager i want ?05:23
_liquidfireNever have done it before05:23
_liquidfireso 05:23
apokryphos_liquidfire: nope; you'll have to set the KWIN variable. Check google for the info05:23
_liquidfireoke05:24
_liquidfirethanks for the info05:24
amuit will be a nice webgui where the user can chose from templates, if you want xfce instead of kde or gnome instead of kde, or firefox as defualt browser with you holidaypic as background and your girlfriend as bootsplash 05:24
apokryphosI think it'll be a really big hit05:24
apokryphoscan't wait :)05:24
amuwell that really rocks, so everyone can build liveCD, for his useage in a very easy way 05:24
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apokryphosCustomization is always good. Very nice.05:25
apokryphosamu: do you think it will happen soon? Or do you have much work now for Breezy etc?05:25
_liquidfireamu one of the devs ?05:26
_liquidfire:o05:26
apokryphos_liquidfire: one of the great ones, yes. :)05:26
_liquidfirehehe05:26
_liquidfireamu, yesterday i had some great option which could be included05:27
_liquidfirebut i totally forgot :(05:27
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_liquidfirebut anyway keep up the great work05:28
_liquidfireits because of kubuntu/ubuntu i switched to Linux05:28
_liquidfire:D05:28
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amuapokryphos: guess few weeks after breezy i'll make an public test for it, breezy is too broken at the oment  05:29
amuapokryphos: ... i was :) 05:29
apokryphosLet us know in here; I'll test it as soon as it's available. 05:29
apokryphosbrokenbreezy; geh 8)05:29
amuI'm back to real live, there are more important things like irc/chat/linux/gnoppix in my live, they have priority. 05:30
apokryphosDefinitely. :)05:30
amuapokryphos: sure, i'll let you know 05:31
apokryphosthanks!05:31
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slow-motionhello05:46
_liquidfirehmm05:47
_liquidfireI just started KDE i tried running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org05:47
_liquidfireWhat did i do wrong :)05:47
amuprobably you choose breezy in your sources.list *ducks* 05:49
_liquidfirenope05:49
_liquidfirei installed kde using ubuntu05:49
_liquidfirei.e apt-get kubuntu-desltop05:49
amustarted KDE? what does this mean 05:50
_liquidfireI meant i just started using it05:50
_liquidfireinstead of gnome05:50
amukdm runs instead of gdm ? 05:51
_liquidfireyeah05:51
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amuif you login what happens ? 05:51
_liquidfireit logs in05:51
_liquidfire:p05:51
_liquidfirei start kde then05:51
Nate1just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:52
Nate1heh05:52
_liquidfirewell i know05:52
amuthan everything is fine :)05:52
amuor not ? 05:52
_liquidfirebut i want to go trough the autoconfig05:52
_liquidfirebecause my mouse needs the side buttons enabled :/05:52
Nate1ah05:52
Nate110-405:52
amukubuntu-desktop will not touch the xserver, it must be brocken with your ubuntu installation :D 05:53
amuthan do what Nate1 said ... 05:53
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Nate1placing kde on usually causes malfunctions in scripts05:54
n0hahello05:54
n0haneed some help with apt-get05:54
_liquidfiren0ha:  whats up n :)05:54
n0hawhen i do apt-get install mozilla-firefox, or whatever, i get 500 internal server error05:54
n0hai can browse, apt-get update goes fine, but i cannot install anything05:55
_liquidfireare you using amd64 ?05:55
n0hais something wrong with the sources server?05:55
n0hanope05:55
_liquidfirethen I don't know05:55
_liquidfireeverything works fine here05:55
_liquidfire=/05:55
n0ha:(05:56
n0hathx anyway05:56
_liquidfireSo I cant run a reconfigure or anything Nate1, amu ?05:57
Nate1you ever use smart-upgrade?05:57
Nate1liquidfire05:58
_liquidfirenope05:58
_liquidfirenever heard of it either :x05:58
Nate1that would most likely fix the problem....05:58
Nate1do you have synaptic?05:58
_liquidfirenopew05:58
Nate1apt-get synaptic05:58
_liquidfirecan i install it under kde ?05:58
Nate1yes05:59
_liquidfirewait a sec05:59
Nate1aite05:59
_liquidfireill do it05:59
Nate1you can get it with kynaptic05:59
_liquidfirelol 3 package managers 6_^ 05:59
_liquidfirehmm06:00
_liquidfireIt seems I cant find it06:00
Nate1they all have their pros and cons06:00
Nate1heh06:00
Nate1it's there in the repositories, keep looking06:00
_liquidfirehmm06:00
_liquidfiredo i need to add any extra repos ?06:01
tanghussudo apt-get install synaptic06:01
_liquidfirei did06:01
tanghushmm06:01
_liquidfirewierd06:01
_liquidfirenow its working06:01
_liquidfirevery strange -_-06:02
_liquidfirewells its installed now Nate1 06:02
_liquidfirewhats next :D06:02
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Nate1now, choose the upgrade all button, and select smart-upgrade06:03
Nate1but don't make smart-upgrade the default06:03
_liquidfirehmm06:03
_liquidfirei can't find it 06:03
_liquidfirein the menu 06:03
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Nate1in synaptic it should just be a button06:07
_liquidfireno i mean06:07
_liquidfireI can't find synaptic06:07
_liquidfirenevermind06:08
_liquidfirei'm such a noob06:08
_liquidfirei typed syntapic06:08
_liquidfireomg06:08
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_liquidfirei did smart update Nate1 but it isn't showing up any buttons06:09
_liquidfirelike apply06:09
_liquidfireOo06:09
Nate1yeah, apply it06:11
_liquidfirewell i cant06:11
_liquidfirelol06:11
_liquidfireits greyed out06:11
_liquidfirei don't see any packages under upgradable either06:11
_liquidfirenevermind i got it working06:12
_liquidfirei looked at xserver06:12
_liquidfiresomebody forgot to mention "xorg" as the last word on his site06:13
_liquidfirethanks for you time Nate1  :)06:13
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Nate1haha06:13
Nate1you're welcome06:13
pussfellerwhats with gwenview not seeing rars adn cbrs06:17
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apokryphosn0ha: what's the error?06:19
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mihaihello06:32
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spiralhu06:36
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n0haapokryphos: 500 internal server error06:38
apokryphoshm, that's not a client-side error06:39
apokryphosn0ha: what mirror are you using?06:39
n0haapokryphos: http://archive.ubuntu.com06:39
apokryphosand on Hoary? Odd. Do you want to retry doing it now?06:40
apokryphossudo apt-get update first06:40
n0haafter installation, it was set to sk.archive.ubuntu.com (i'm from slovakia), but then i tried us.archive.ubunut.com and archive.ubuntu.com without success06:40
n0hai did that06:40
n0hai tried apt-get clean, then apt-get update06:41
apokryphosyou should use the one closest to you06:41
n0hai know, but i get the same result, whatever mirror i try06:41
apokryphosis it for just that package or all packages?06:41
n0haall packages06:41
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verazhi everyone !06:42
apokryphosn0ha: apt-get update gives no errors?06:42
apokryphoshi veraz!06:42
n0hanow i tried apt-get --print-uris install mozilla-firefox06:42
n0haapokryphos: no, no errors06:42
verazi have few questions , first how i can install fixedsys fonts(i really like them) ... \06:42
n0hawhen i manually start to download the .deb i want, it works for me06:42
apokryphos:/06:42
n0haapokryphos: can i debug somehow the apt-get download process?06:43
n0hato see the headers it sends?06:43
apokryphosNot any way I know of; generally the error output is enough. Man page may help06:44
apokryphosif you don't resolve this you should try asking in #ubuntu06:44
n0hai tried:)06:44
n0hano success at all:(06:45
apokryphosn0ha: thing I guess you could try for now is to update your apt06:45
apokryphosactually a pretty simple way to do it; you can use adept, which will bring in newer version of aptitude06:45
apokryphoscan see if the problem persists06:45
apokryphosalso, if you don't get answers in #ubuntu, it's worth trying later; the same people aren't always in :)06:46
n0haapokryphos: adept should be installed by default?06:47
apokryphosNo. See /topic06:47
verazsecond, iv ran the pppoeconf utility,and set up a pppoe connection but now every time i connect to the net  my /etc/resolv.conf file gets empty (my internal architechture is : my puter 10.0.0.1 and my ADSL modem is 10.0.0.138) and i cant use DNS ! :) anyone with a solution ?06:48
n0haapokryphos: thx06:48
verazanyone ?06:50
apokryphosveraz: fonts can be installed from KControl06:53
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nikkiaapokryphos: i always found konqueror to be an easier way to install fonts06:54
apokryphoseither way06:55
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slow-motioni have installed superkaramba and the weather plugin, but the plugin does not show any data. how can i configure it?07:04
apokryphosslow-motion: right-click -> configure theme07:04
apokryphosif it's not showing then the most likely scenario is: you don't have the latest version of SK07:04
apokryphosErm, JRE pack has been removed from hoary-extras. Great. :/07:05
slow-motionslow-motion: right-click -> configure theme < where? on the sk icon or on the area on the screen where the theme shall be but does not appear07:06
apokryphosslow-motion: what version of SK are you running? superkaramba --version07:06
apokryphoswhere the theme should be07:07
jpatrickslow-motion: download the lastest superkaramba verison and compile and install it07:07
slow-motionQt: 3.3.307:07
slow-motionKDE: 3.4.207:07
slow-motionsuperkaramba: 0.3607:07
apokryphoswhere the theme *is*; it still runs even if it doesn't display, unless it hasn't crashed (unlikely)07:07
jpatrickthe lastest is 0.3707:07
apokryphosunles you got an old version of SK, you cannot run Liquid Weather on that version07:07
apokryphoserm, bad phrasing07:08
jpatrickCompile the lastest one07:08
slow-motionjpatrick so you want to tell me what compiler i should take and how do i compile it. step by step?07:08
apokryphosslow-motion: very easy07:08
jpatrickyeah download the source07:08
jpatrick./configure07:08
jpatrickmake07:08
jpatrickmake install07:08
jpatrick:p07:08
_frankuntar07:08
jpatrickwhatever07:08
_frank;)07:09
slow-motionjpatrick that is the same i know07:09
slow-motionbut i wont install a compiler07:09
apokryphos./configure --prefix=/usr07:09
slow-motioni want to run it without07:09
jpatrickshame :p07:09
apokryphosyou will likely ineed to install kde-devel and libx11-dev packs07:09
jpatrickand g++07:10
apokryphoswon't install a compiler :/07:10
pax_frank comment ca roule chez vous mon ami :)07:10
slow-motion<apokryphos> slow-motion: right-click -> configure theme < nothing found like it07:10
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apokryphosslow-motion: you're not clicking on the theme then07:10
_frankpax: ca va mais je doit partir07:10
apokryphosslow-motion: anyhow, that's nto going to work.07:10
paxok :)07:10
jpatrickhe won't get very far without a compiler07:10
jpatrick:/07:11
apokryphosFunny how changing the "Feedback" thing in KControl makes your system seem faster :P07:11
slow-motionjpatrick my system is running without a compiler07:11
slow-motioni need a kernel but no compiler07:11
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jpatrickthey're small little programs07:13
pax.. but kubuntu is like linux, isn't it?07:14
OculusAquilaepax: it IS a linux ditribution07:15
paxit doesn't say linux, it says for human beings tho07:15
apokryphoshumanoids07:15
jpatrickit says "Linux for human beings"07:16
slow-motionif i want to compile everything i have, then i install gentoo07:16
jpatrickapokryphos: where's the feedback thing?07:16
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jpatrickslow-motion: you don't have to compile everything07:16
apokryphosjpatrick: Appearance & Themes -> Launch Feedback07:16
slow-motionthe menu pointt configure theme is there, but it is gray07:17
jpatrickslow-motion: Is that the lastest Liquid Weather?07:17
slow-motionit is the latest07:18
apokryphoswhich is the problem07:18
apokryphosthe latest Liquid Weather requires the latest SK07:18
jpatrickI quote07:18
paxwhat's wrong with kweather?07:18
jpatrick"VERSIONS >= 7.0 REQUIRE SUPERKARAMBA V0.37"07:19
apokryphospax: it's small and ugly07:19
apokryphosand gets in the way07:19
jpatrickfrom it's KDE-Look page07:19
paxI see07:19
nikkiaapokryphos: in fairness, it also doesn't use 170% of the CPU time available :P07:23
jpatricknikkia: kweather takes up more CPU here07:23
paxseems to be working fine with superkaramba 0.35 here07:23
paxall those eye-candy suckers eat resources07:24
apokryphosnikkia: Liquid Weather takes up little CPU, really, against popular belief :P. It doesn't run processes every few seconds07:24
nikkiaapokryphos: took up a lot when i ran it07:24
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroSpeaking of superkaramba, why does it need xmms?07:24
apokryphosIt has some "ingrained" xmms features07:25
jpatricksome themes use xmms07:25
jpatricki don't like that...07:25
paxI think superkaramba will be included in KDE 3.5 by default07:25
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroMe neither. I want xmms off my computer, but I want to keep superkaramba07:25
jpatrickit's part of Plasma07:25
apokryphospax: no; it will be in Extragear07:26
jpatrickhttp://plasma.kde.org/07:26
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paxapokryphos: really, they should've integrated this thingy is ksysguard07:28
nikkiawow07:28
nikkiai wondered why my web was slow....07:28
apokryphospax: why?07:29
nikkiaaz is getting 650KB/s on a torrent :)07:29
apokryphosnice07:29
paxapokryphos: well, gives some eye-candy cpu/mem usage etc..07:29
apokryphosdon't think I've ever reached that (with a torrent)07:29
nikkiaapokryphos: private site, always get great rates07:29
paxsitting on a nice pipe there nikkia :)07:29
nikkiaapokryphos: my experience with BT is, the more 'open' the source, the less download rate you'll get07:30
nikkiaapokryphos: a site of 10 people == uber fast07:30
apokryphospax: Or with the words of Monsieur Gagne "Don't merely monitor your system logs-give your system stats displays a certain je ne sais quoi with GUI tools."07:30
nikkiapax, 8Mbps DSL, same as apokryphos07:30
paxwow DSL, not even cable!07:30
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nikkiaaltho i AM a little annoyed that NTL announced 35Mbps cable a day after my DSL was switched on07:30
apokryphosnikkia: heh, probably quite true. I still rarely reach more than 200 Kb/s for films07:31
apokryphosnikkia: they w-h-a-t?07:31
paxapokryphos: I lost you, is that french?07:31
nikkiaapokryphos: next year, they're gonna offer 35Mbps07:31
apokryphospax: heh, yeah; from a Dot article07:31
apokryphoshttp://dot.kde.org/1083361714/07:31
apokryphosnikkia: that's insane07:31
nikkiaapokryphos: apparently, aiming to hit 100Mbps by the end of 200707:31
apokryphosour contract will end just in time. :P07:31
nikkiaapokryphos: contract?07:32
nikkiaapokryphos: i'm on a month by month contract07:32
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apokryphosnikkia: ours only came cheap if you went in for a year, IIRC.07:32
nikkiaapokryphos: its the one thing that made me feel a bit comforted when i read all the horror stories07:32
apokryphosheh07:33
_joehello kubuntu users07:33
apokryphosany real complaints since?07:33
nikkiaapokryphos: not really07:33
nikkiaapokryphos: i've had some strange situations where BT suddenly 'stopped working', and it looked like i was being port blocked07:33
_joeanyone seen google earth07:33
nikkiaapokryphos: but i've put that down to the modem being a bit 'weird'07:33
_joehow do i get it to work on linux07:34
_joei mean kubuntu07:34
nikkiajoe, yeah, i even saw it when it was called keyhole :P07:34
apokryphosnikkia: I'd think that first :P07:34
nikkiajoe, cedega might run it07:34
_joecedega07:34
nikkiajoe, but its a D3D app, always was, and the D3D support in regular wine is probably too shakey07:34
_joemy apologies i'm new to Kubuntu as an OS and even newer to Linux07:35
nikkiajoe, cedega is a commercial version of wine (a program that lets you run windows programs on linux)07:35
nikkiaits $15/month, but it runs game-like software a lot better than wine does07:35
_joeohhh...................i see, so google earth can't be run on my pc as is then07:36
nikkiaor is it $15/3mo, i forget07:36
nikkiajoe, no07:36
nikkiayou could TRY and install wine (its in the repositories), it MIGHT run, but i wouldn't put money on it07:36
_joelol07:36
_joeits a bit of a struggle installing stuff haven't quite got the hang of it yet07:37
nikkiaah, yes, $5/mo in 3month chunks07:37
_joei think i've barely managed to update the OS07:38
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nikkiatbh, cedega is probably worth it, if you play games at all07:39
_liquidfirecan somebody help me a sec howdo i compile/unpack tar07:39
_liquidfirei want to install an external program07:40
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amucompile/unpack tar?07:42
_joenah, play games on PS207:43
_liquidfirewlel07:43
amuGT4 07:43
_liquidfireunpack it and then compile07:43
_joeMy PC is pretty basic07:43
DocTomoeIs there a way to save a html file with all its images in konqueror? savinf the file only saves the hypertext, not the linked images.07:43
_liquidfirei want to install bittornado07:43
amuGT4 rocks on PS2 07:43
_joeare there any other multimedia players like Kaffeine out there, i'm looking for an alternative player to use in playing07:44
apokryphospax: my mistake, SK is actually going into kdeutils, despite a lot suggesting Extragear07:44
_liquidfire_joe: 07:44
_liquidfirevideolan07:44
DocTomoe_joe: Have you tried vlc?07:44
_liquidfire:o07:44
_liquidfireits great =] 07:44
_joeno07:44
_liquidfirebut could anybody help me a sec :>07:44
_joenever heard of it07:44
_liquidfirehttp://www.bittornado.com/download.html i have no clue howto install07:44
_joesorry LiquidFIre07:44
_liquidfirea tar.gz file07:44
amu_liquidfire: tar -xzvf extract the tar archive 07:44
_joeI'm not much good at linux stuff very much a beginner07:45
DocTomoe_liquidfire: try apt-get install bittornado ;)07:45
_joei tend to stumble round07:45
_liquidfireah lol07:45
_liquidfirei used dpkg07:45
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_liquidfirebut thats debian depackage right amu 07:45
_liquidfire:o07:45
_joewhere do i get vlc and is it easy to install07:45
_liquidfireyea07:45
apokryphos!info vlc07:45
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB07:45
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_joei think the only command i know is apt-get and apt install07:46
DocTomoe_joe: sudo apt-get install vlc07:46
_liquidfire_joe: 07:46
_liquidfireyou need to edit your sources.list07:46
_liquidfireopen a terminal07:46
_liquidfiretype kate /etc/apt/source.list07:46
paxapokryphos: that's what I thought, seen that in some review. I dunno mate, it's a nice add-on for people who don't care about cpu/mem usage, but on the other hand, KDE is bloated enough as it is.07:46
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_joeeditting the source list i've done only once07:46
_liquidfirethen unmark all the # servers07:46
_liquidfireok07:46
_liquidfireyou can search vlc with apt-cache search vlc07:47
_joeok07:47
migI was told tha kubuntu would not run on the original iMac, it is true?07:47
_liquidfireand then install vlc07:47
_joecool07:47
apokryphospax: I don't think it's that bloated, really. How big is the whole of kde?07:47
_joei'll give that a try07:47
_joethanks for that07:47
_liquidfirewith sudo apt-get install vlc name07:47
_liquidfireno problem07:47
_joesorry can't be of much help07:47
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paxapokryphos: it is bloated compering to Gnome (which runs faster on older boxes btw), don't get me wrong I'm a KDE user, but gotta say it as it is.07:49
apokryphospax: we have a lame lappy here, with gnome and kde, and I don't see any difference in speed07:50
apokryphosI think the term bloated is badly misused07:50
apokryphosmore featureful != more bloated07:50
_liquidfirehmm amu its giving me some errors07:51
_liquidfireit says no such file or directory07:51
_liquidfirebut i typed the first letters07:51
_liquidfireand then tabbed07:51
_liquidfirefor full name07:51
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_StarScreamhi guys anyone here with a powerbook or ibook?08:01
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buzis there a breezy install cd?08:03
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apokryphosbuz: yes; cdimage.ubuntu.com08:04
buzthx08:04
buzgonna try installing it in vmware08:04
buzcan i install from livecd?08:05
apokryphosnope08:05
buzsame procedure as last year, then08:06
buzhopefully not same procedure as every year08:07
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hussamsomething happened and now when I do sudo something, I get sudo: must be setuid root08:08
hussamwhat do I do?08:08
buzsudo lost suid bit maybe=08:08
hussamhow should I fix that?08:08
buzchmod 6555 sudo08:08
hussamok I did su then entered root password, now I do chmod 6555 sudo?08:09
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buzyeah werever sudo lives ;)08:09
buztry ls -l sudo first08:10
hussamls: sudo: No such file or directory08:10
Ex-Cyberer... which sudo ?08:10
buz /usr/bin/sudo 08:11
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hussambuz: so I do chmod 6555 /usr/bin/sudo ?08:11
buzyeah but try ls -l first08:12
hussamas root?08:12
buzwhat perms has it got?08:12
buzyes08:12
buzonly root can set stuff suid root ;)08:12
hussambuz: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo resturned: -rwxr-xr-x  2 root root 95288 Jun 21 15:46 /usr/bin/sudo08:13
hussamnow I do  chmod 6555 /usr/bin/sudo ?08:13
buzyeah it should be -rwsr-xr-x  2 root root 95288 2005-06-21 14:46 /usr/bin/sudo08:13
buzyes08:13
buzafter that it should work08:13
hussambuz: thank you. that did it08:14
hussambuz: how do I check if other files in /usr/bin that might have wrong permissions?08:14
buzno idea08:15
buzyoud have to have a list of proper perms first ;)08:15
hussamah ok I see08:15
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hussambuz: you knows the text that appears while booting when stuff is loading? Is it logged so I can review it?08:18
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TakerAnyone from Austria here?08:23
TakerPlease querry08:23
_StarScreamTaker: nope why Austria ?08:23
TakerI've got a question to the default dsl-protocoll pptp.08:24
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_StarScreamhttp://www.shorewall.net/PPTP.htm08:27
TakerThank you _StarScream 08:27
_StarScreamnp08:27
Taker_StarScream: Does DSL in Austria require mppe-encryption?08:28
_joehi08:29
_joei've just installed VLC08:29
Takerhi _joe 08:29
_joeI can play mp3 files08:29
_joebut not AVI08:29
_StarScreamTaker: i don't know what that is sorry08:29
_joeany clues as to why the application VLC simply closes itself down whenever i try08:30
_StarScreamTaker: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=773&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=20050408:31
_StarScreamtry that08:31
_StarScreamand search for austria08:31
_StarScreamit MAY help08:31
_StarScreamTaker: btw, which part of Austria are you in? saw on the news about the floods08:32
_StarScreamis it as bad there as in switzerland?08:32
Taker_StarScream: I'm not from Austria.08:33
_StarScreamah..sorry, just assumed from the austrian question..08:33
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frogtone25hello08:38
frogtone25i need to know if there is a theme package that i can get off of synaptic that is like mac os x panther08:38
frogtone25and i think that i need to add a repository to get it08:39
frogtone25but i dont know what that is08:39
frogtone25can someone please help me08:39
hussamHelp, when I do locate something, I get /var/lib/slocate.db: permission denied08:39
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hussamanybody?08:40
hussamI'm doing updatedb again to check08:41
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hussambuz: you there?08:46
buzyes08:47
buzwondering why my drives push only 15mb/s with dma active08:47
hussambuz: another problem, when I do locate something, I get ocate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: Permission denied08:48
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buzmhh no idea what perms it needs08:48
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tvohussam, -rw-r-----  1 root slocate 1608993 2005-08-24 15:49 slocate.db08:50
tvoin /var/lib/slocate08:50
troglodytsudo updatedb should do it08:51
hussamtvo: how do I change to those permissions, I'll do sudo updatedb first though08:52
tvok08:52
hussamI'm doing updatedb now, it just takes some time I guess08:52
tvoyup08:52
hussamthe problem is that I tried a deb for an experimental program my friend is writing and I think it ruined some permissions in /usr/bin and /usr/lib08:53
hussamso far I have had to fix sudo and now updatedb08:54
tvosend me the deb and i'll take a look08:55
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroEr, what deb package contains subversion?08:56
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroWhoops, nevermind08:57
hussamtvo: updatedb give error updatedb: create_db(): chdir: No such file or directory08:57
tvohussam, hmm maybe /var/lib/slocate doesn't exist08:58
Tm_Thumm08:58
hussam /var/lib/slocate exists08:58
hussamalso /var/lib/slocate is empty08:58
hussamwhat should I do?09:00
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tvohussam, try: sudo /etc/cron.daily/slocate09:01
tvoinstead of sudo updatedb09:01
hussamok09:01
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ray_you guys alive?09:05
hussamtvo: thanks sudo /etc/cron.daily/slocate did it09:05
tvohussam, cool :-)09:06
hussamtvo: probably some other stuff are broken too, but this is what I ran across so far09:07
tvohussam, if you're pretty sure that deb did it, i can take a look to see why09:08
tvoand tell you about other problems :)09:08
hussamthe thing is that I delete it, but I'll tell the person to email it to me again09:10
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ray_anyone connect to aol in here09:19
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brk3is there a way to make kynaptic forget about broken packages etc? cause at the moment i cant install anything without havin to remove some vital packages that are apparantly 'broken'..09:45
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_liquidfireI just installed abc-bittorent client with the deb package10:04
_liquidfireWhere can I find where he installed the program10:04
_liquidfireIt doesn't appear in any menu listing10:04
Tm_Trun it from console?10:06
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_liquidfirei tried10:07
_liquidfirebut i don't know what command10:07
Tm_Tabc-<tab>10:08
Tm_T?10:08
Tm_TI mean, use tab to autocomplete =)10:08
_liquidfirehmm wierd10:08
_liquidfireit doesn't do anything10:08
Tm_Thumm10:09
Tm_Thit twice10:09
_liquidfirenope10:09
_liquidfire=/10:09
Tm_Tor just abc<tab>10:09
_liquidfiresame 10:09
_liquidfirei don't see it in my hidden files either10:09
Tm_Tum10:09
_liquidfireany idea where he may put it10:10
jpowersxorg is taking up 200megs of ram...is this normal?10:10
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ray_umm10:18
ray_mine is only taking up 60 megs10:19
buz 7808 root      15   0  248m  84m 2664 S  2.0  9.6  12:47.06 Xorg10:19
ray_jpowers: how much ram you got?10:20
jpowers1 gig10:20
ray_jpowers: so you got enough10:20
jpowersI have enough as long as I don't use the computer for anything really ram intensive.10:21
jpowerspan eats ram like nobody's business10:21
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Mustafa^^Hi, I couldn't remove Lale (Lale is a Turkish-English Dictionary)10:29
Mustafa^^http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/goster.php?no=91710:29
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Mustafa^^Are u sleeping?!?!? :D10:37
buzis ubuntuforums slashdotted?10:37
buzi admit it, i wanted to test e17 :(10:37
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apokryphosbuz: you can use the nooms repo, can't you?10:43
buznooms?10:45
apokryphos!e10:45
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105 Repo: deb http://ubuntu.nooms.de/ hoary10:45
buzwill that destroy kubuntu-desktop?10:46
apokryphosI don't see why10:46
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GameCathi10:51
GameCatcan anyone point me to an apache tutorial for setting up https:// on kubuntu?  <-- apache n00b10:51
TakerDoest anyone want to play a round kwin4 over the internet with me?10:53
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Rogue_Jedi_ZeroErm, how would I go about writing a script that goes to a specific directory, runs a command and then goes into background?11:32
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herbazhello guys 12:02
herbazi'm really new in linux , i have just one Q how can i install Firefox really it's make me feel sick :S12:03
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herbaz:D ?12:04
Tm_Tin console: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox12:04
Tm_Tgot it?12:04
herbazthanks pal , i tryied12:04
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herbazBuilding dependency tree... Done12:05
herbazPackage mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:05
herbazThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:05
herbazis only available from another source12:05
herbazE: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate12:05
Tm_T?12:05

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