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[01:25] yes [01:25] hmm [01:26] could it be that we have diffrent deps on diffrent architectures or something like that? :-/ [01:26] my amd64 says libcairo1 [01:26] can be... or different version on different archs [01:26] if it didint build on amd64... [01:27] I was more thinking about if it could have built to early on amd64 or something like that. [01:28] i guess [01:30] ajmitch, you still on? [01:31] I ask mdz about it :-) === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] erm can I have someone look at a package for me please [01:44] StrikeForce: yes, but I'm at work [01:44] lol [01:44] I have to have a shower then head to work [01:44] same place I've separate them into folders [01:44] if you still have the link [01:51] can anyone explain what no utmp entry available and LOGNAME not defined; using uid of process (0) means? [01:52] ignore it === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] sweet [01:57] well its all working usuing pbuilder [02:00] heyas, im looking at helping the MOTU team out, just wondering where i need to start === bmonty [i=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] hi everyone [02:05] elllo bmonty === rbelem [n=rodrigo@201008169142.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sean___ [n=shawn__@d209-107-101-94.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _derek [n=derek@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] <_derek> \sh_away: you here? === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@D-128-208-151-97.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stone__ [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtgameover [n=jtan325@D-128-208-151-97.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@D-128-208-151-97.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [n=QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] <|QuaD-> i hate xorg/gnome! it freezes right when it loads! [05:14] |QuaD-: on the gnome splash screen? [05:14] <|QuaD-> yeah [05:15] <|QuaD-> when it is loading things like update-notifier [05:15] is this a laptop by any chance? with an ati video chip? [05:16] <|QuaD-> nope [05:16] <|QuaD-> desktop with nvidia [05:16] then I don't know what it is :-) [05:16] |QuaD-, breezy? [05:17] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: yeah [05:19] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: you have any suggestions? [05:19] heh i've experienced worse [05:19] |QuaD-, daily build? or Colony? [05:19] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: daily build, i apt-get upgrade/distupgrade daily to try to fix it [05:20] daily doesn't really mean its fixed [05:20] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: i was hoping it would get fixed, but in the 2 months it hasn't :( [05:20] <|QuaD-> i have tried fixing my config [05:20] <|QuaD-> and everything [05:20] days after colony 3, majority is borked [05:20] yesterday installer was borked [05:21] <|QuaD-> yeah [05:21] <|QuaD-> but htis has been for a while [05:22] its expected after all, this is a development snapshot [05:22] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: yeah [05:22] its more painful in laptop testing [05:22] heh [05:22] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: haha yeah [05:22] <|QuaD-> i am just wondering whats wrong [05:22] have you tried searching in bugzilla? [05:23] if there is none, its best you file a bug [05:23] and make sure you indicated that you're running breezy [05:23] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: hmm alright [05:24] because its not going to be fixed if no one reports it :) [05:24] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: yeah === SloMo_ [n=slomo@p5487F6D9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] <|QuaD-> how are we supposed to restart an xserver now [05:25] ctrl-alt-backspace? [05:25] <|QuaD-> jsgotangco: from terminal, xserver is frozen [05:25] how evil === crimsun_ [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] <|QuaD-> ajmitch: i know! === cevizoglu [n=cevizogl@c-24-6-158-63.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-MOTU === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a133.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch wishes apt-get source didn't take so long === ajmitch can fetch from debian mirrors at >150K/sec, but ubuntu at ~20K/sec :( === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] \sh: currently doing a trial rebuild of the cairo1->2 & slang2 lists with a new script I wrote :) [07:35] <\sh> nice :) [07:35] <\sh> and I managed to connect to talk.google.com [07:35] if they build ok, then all I have to do is run debsign :) [07:35] & dput, of course [07:39] you guys going to the next ubuntu conf? [07:39] schweeb: that's a definite 'maybe' [07:39] I'm excited, it's on my continent this time [07:39] it's a long way to swim from NZ [07:39] albeit ~12 hrs away on my continent [07:39] \sh, what's your google account i will add you to mine [07:40] I was very lucky to have UDU so close [07:40] ajmitch, aye [07:40] <\sh> shr591 [07:40] I would have loved to have gone... I would have showed up a week early for vacation [07:40] ajmitch, jetlag sucks [07:41] ajmitch, but then, those from europe and north america experienced that in sydney [07:41] heh [07:41] I bet [07:41] heh [07:41] I just compiled E17, and it's pretty frigging slick [07:42] so where are the ubuntu packages? :) [07:42] workin on it [07:42] not that they'd be aproved by release time or anything [07:42] nope [07:42] plus, I'd have to do upkeep on them! [07:42] you'd be really pushing to get them into universe [07:43] that would be awesome [07:43] keeping up w/ the CVS of something like E17 would be nuts [07:43] but I plan on keeping up with development as best as I can [07:43] schweeb: sure, I used to do daily snapshot debs of other software [07:44] but that other software wasn't E17, where complete code rewrites are the norm [07:44] :p [07:44] of course not [07:44] that project had an implicit policy of the tree being releasable at any time :) [07:45] only 'good' code got checked in [07:45] I've gotta stop spending so much time at bars, and start spending time doing OSS stuff again [07:45] in case you guys haven't noticed, I haven't done a damned thing since I turned 21 [07:45] :p [07:45] well I don't know when you turned 21 :) [07:46] May [07:46] legal age is 18 here.. [07:46] yea, not that it stopped me from drinking, I just couldn't drink in most bars [07:46] hmm the windows client showed me all the emails i received today [07:48] ok, this script seems to be working moderately well [07:48] got a few too many FTBFS packages :) [07:48] build log parser? [07:48] nope [07:49] script to throw packages at pbuilder [07:49] ah [07:49] and mail results to me [07:49] amongst other things === ajmitch hears the drive chugging away [07:51] I might put in some post-build hooks [07:51] so I can run simple tests (checking dependencies, piuparts) === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax7-137.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Aramil [n=tony@chan530-a133.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089F42B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0419.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:27] hellou [10:28] hey ivoks === dooglus [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BeerDump [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] <\sh> hellou? sounds like hellau and alaaf ,-) [10:42] :) [10:43] i have a problem :( [10:43] how to create scripts that would: [10:44] a) create conf file on install [10:44] b) not remove it on remove, but remove it on purge [10:44] c) not overwrite it on upgrade :) [10:44] <\sh> postinstall / postrm [10:44] postrm would remove it on upgrade [10:45] <\sh> no..u can ask [10:45] no asking :) [10:45] <\sh> use a case switch on $1 and if it's remove don't do anything [10:45] <\sh> or if it's purge remove it from hd [10:45] i'm talking about dpkg [10:46] <\sh> yes [10:46] <\sh> case "$1" in purge|remove|upgrade|failed-upgrade|abort-install|abort-upgrade|disappear) [10:47] <\sh> apt-get is using dpkg as backend... [10:49] nope... [10:49] argh... [10:50] never mind... [11:02] hi. a program I'm trying to build a package for has build-deps on aclocal 1.9.4, libtool 1.5.6, autoheader 2.59, automake1.9, autoconf 2.59, xlibs-dev, and of course debhelper [11:02] i am trying to figure out what to put in Build-Depends for rules === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0419.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.0.0), xlibs-dev, aclocal (>= 1.9.4), libtool (>= 1.5.6), autoheader (>= 2.59), automake1.9, autoconf (>= 2.59) [11:02] Build-Conflicts: autoconf (= 2.13), automake (= 1.4) [11:02] \sh: thanks [11:02] you were right [11:02] does that look right? [11:02] <\sh> ivoks: u r welcome :) [11:02] the only one i'm unsure about is aclocal [11:03] new wifi-radar rocks [11:03] <\sh> grmpf [11:03] ah, dman :( [11:03] <\sh> I don't get seahorse-agent running...debuild -S failes to use the agent === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-092-104.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] Can anyone have a look at a package for me? [11:10] hi ivoks [11:10] siretart: hi :) === _koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] siretart: check out new wifi radar package [11:11] ivoks: if you want to update wifi-radar, better provide debdiffs. it is already in breezy [11:11] ok [11:11] ivoks: I will have a look at your latest uploads in revu [11:11] only last one :) [11:11] ivoks: please do full uploads in future (use -S -sa instead of sole -S) [11:11] <\sh> trying to build a new version for seahorse [11:11] ok [11:11] -S -sa :) [11:13] siretart: how to upload debdiff? [11:13] ivoks: not to revu, perhaps we can do that in revu2 [11:13] hence the question :) [11:13] ivoks: place your .debdiff somewhere, and ping me with the url [11:13] or mail it to me [11:13] or whatever ;) [11:14] siretart, I've been asked by SloMo_ to talk to you about uploading a package for breezy [11:14] www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/wifi-ubuntu4-ubuntu5.diff [11:14] for breezy that is [11:16] ivoks: this afternoon, I'm at work atm [11:16] siretart: np [11:16] siretart: no big changes... just added wifi-radar daemon :) [11:16] ivoks: wifi-radar has a daemon now? why that? [11:16] allways had [11:17] cause nm-applet sucks big time [11:17] hm. is there any possibility to not start that daemon on bootup? [11:17] and i don't want to run wifi-radar every time... so... [11:17] siretart: update-rc.d [11:17] see, my pcmcia wifi card does not support scanning, so wifi-radar is not usable at all on that laptop :/ [11:18] eh... [11:18] ivoks: hm. thats not that friendly. and is likley to break across upgrades [11:18] will think about an improvment.. [11:18] why would it break? [11:19] you can still run wifi-radar normally [11:19] nothing changed... [11:19] now it just, if your card can scan, scans for known networks and conects to them [11:19] I'll have to take a closer look, was just my first glance.. [11:20] it will not connect to unknown network neither it will freeze boot or something if it can't find anything [11:20] it will do whan nm-applet does, but without bind, and additional 10 seconds lag to booting :) === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax7-140.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] siretart: np, when you have time, check it out... i have to go now... [11:22] bye === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] hello [11:26] hi === dredg [i=niall@binky.blacknight.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0814.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] gajim is nice :) [12:07] yes :) [12:08] i guess, there isn't windows version :) [12:08] there is [12:08] wow! great [12:08] now if Google would put the correct SRV records for google talk in their DNS... [12:08] JanC: then? [12:09] Treenaks, without those records other servers don't know where to send messages for google's jabber users... [12:10] there are google jabber users? :) [12:10] and gajim would be able to find google's jabber server without user help [12:10] http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html [12:10] we need to get gajim in that list too ;) [12:12] hi. i am follow the new main. guide, and am on the building part. i run into the following error after "debuild -us -uc": [12:12] JanC: what's your JID? [12:12] Format: debiandoc-sgml [12:12] Files: /usr/share/doc/conky/conky.sgml.gz [12:12] Format: postscript [12:12] Files: /usr/share/doc/conky/conky.ps.gz [12:12] whoops [12:12] cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub [12:12] cp: `/usr/share/misc/config.sub' and `config.sub' are the same file [12:12] make: *** [clean] Error 1 [12:12] debuild: fatal error at line 764: [12:12] has anyone run into this before? [12:13] the program i'm trying to package relies on aclocal, libtoolize, autoheader, automake, and finally, autoconf before "./configure" [12:14] so i added program calls (to the correct version too) in the configure rule in debian/control, before the "./configure" already there [12:15] program calls = those things mentioned above that it relies on [12:15] am i in the right direction? [12:15] is this even the place to ask for help on packaging stuff? [12:15] any reponse would be appreciated :-) === ogra [n=ogra@p5089E6F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo_ [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub [12:20] cp: `/usr/share/misc/config.sub' and `config.sub' are the same file [12:20] make: *** [clean] Error 1 [12:21] i cannot figure out what i am doing wrong [12:21] now [12:21] the program i am trying to package [12:21] jtan325: config.sub is a symlink? [12:21] why, it appears so [12:21] oh crap [12:22] i meant to ask this question in #ubuntu === desplesda [n=desplesd@216.241.132.203.in-addr.wholesaledsl.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] got lost in the cutting and pasting :-) [12:22] but any ideas, Mithrandir [12:23] i apologize for posting the same thing twice [12:23] just get rid of the config.{sub,auto} update === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:23] that was unintentional, it meant to go to #ubuntu [12:25] Mithrandir, i can't find it in debian/rules. is that where it should be? === herzi [n=herzi@c205235.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] well thanks for your help any Mithrandir [12:35] i removed the symlinks, now it complains about other stuff [12:35] but that's for me to battle === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:45] Can I get someone to look at a package for me please [12:46] Can someone have a look at my rebuild of the debian gajim [12:47] ajmitch, you on? [12:49] StrikeForce: yes? [12:49] sweet [12:49] can you have a look at 2 packages for me please [12:49] maybe [12:49] http://www.smlintl.com.au/packages [12:50] slomo asked me to upload them to REVU however I don't have an account [12:50] why gajim? [12:50] someone asked for it [12:50] gajim is love [12:51] I feel like a whore though :) cause I basically copied the debian one [12:51] StrikeForce: heh nah thats good [12:51] and obviously I gave him credit [12:51] and \sh has made a couple of uploads of gajim today [12:51] I just changed one thing [12:51] StrikeForce: you want to upload to revu? === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a044.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] yeah please [12:51] siretart, yeah please [12:51] if someone else has done gajim its fine [12:51] StrikeForce: your gnupg id please? [12:51] I just thought I would give it a go [12:51] yes, \sh has done (via revu) [12:52] StrikeForce: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=453 [12:52] siretart, 6512C8D8 [12:52] more rufus? [12:52] thats what you want right? [12:52] yeah rufus is there [12:52] I've finished the editing for breezy this morning [12:53] so I'm hoping you can pick the 'shit' out of it and tell me improvements [12:53] StrikeForce: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/breezy-changes/2005-August/009987.html [12:53] I'm learning as I go [12:53] hopefully I can be more constructive [12:53] StrikeForce: we already have gajim in the archive. [12:53] you still haven't put python in Build-Depends [12:53] thats fine siretart I won't upload it [12:54] and you still have to strip the unneeded dh_* out of debian/rules [12:54] your right [12:54] I did I thought? [12:54] StrikeForce: key added [12:54] thanks siretart [12:54] I'm looking at http://www.smlintl.com.au/packages/rufus/breezy/rufus-0.5.6/debian/ [12:55] yeah [12:55] and do you need things like dh_strip, when there's no binaries to strip? [12:55] doh your right [12:55] dh_installpam, etc... [12:55] I thought I cleaned them out [12:55] soz [12:55] (not just commented ones) [12:55] and you have dh_python commented out [12:56] when you could be using that & ${python:Depends} [12:56] hmmm [12:56] dh_install * -Xdebian $(DESTDIR)/usr/share/rufus [12:56] would put the rufus 'binary' in there as well? [12:57] yes, it puts everything in there.. [12:57] well the rufus itself is a shells cript [12:57] script [12:57] and it runs rufus.py [12:57] so is there a need for all the *.TXT, *.bat, etc files in /usr/share/rufus? [12:57] do I have to put -X and all the docs? [12:58] nope thats why I'm asking [12:58] and the build dir as well? [12:58] so when I transfer it I should just remove those? [12:58] if they're not needed [12:59] as in dh_install * -Xdebian -X *.TXT blah blah? [12:59] you should perhaps use an install file [12:59] eg rufus.install [12:59] which lists patterns to install, instead of things to exclude === ajmitch really needs to get to bed soon in order to get up for MOTU meeting [01:00] so should I put stuff in /usr/lib? [01:00] no [01:00] why do you think that? [01:01] nm I thought it had it in there [01:01] it was a sub-directory of /usr/share nm mis-read [01:01] I'm not understanding the install [01:01] oh _finally_ I have these build logs mailed to me === ajmitch mutters about broken mail systems [01:02] oh, btw.. gajim++ [01:02] yum [01:04] wouldn't the rufus shell script be sufficient to point to /usr/share/rufus.py? [01:04] or should I be looking at it another way? [01:05] possibly [01:05] I've added Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 4.0.0), ${python:Depends} [01:06] I haven't used it as you do [01:06] StrikeForce: no, don't do that [01:06] ${python:Depends} goes in Depends [01:06] man dh_python for the details [01:06] just add to the depends section? [01:07] and you have to at least depend on python-minimal [01:07] kk [01:07] yeah I"ve done that [01:08] sorry, build-depend [01:08] yeah under build-depend [01:08] the problem is though is that rufus.py doesn't create a home directory but the shell script rufus does [01:08] so the shell script rufus which creates all the stuff then -> rufus.py under /usr/share/rufus [01:09] ok.. [01:09] thats the only reason I did it that way [01:09] I tried without it but it needs it built [01:09] as in the directories [01:10] should I withdraw that shell script from when its transferred? [01:10] it would be cleaner wouldn't it? [01:10] possibly [01:10] since its not needed in the /usr/share/rufus directory [01:10] sorry, but I've got to go.. [01:10] kk take care get some sleep :) [01:11] bye [01:11] one last question once the changes are in place shoudl I upload it or get someone to appraise it first then upload it? [01:11] e.g. bother you again :) === ogra_ltsp [n=ogra@p5089E6F4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] can please anyone with breezy try to open a png file with the gimp? - this fails for me because of some missing input filter [01:30] I cannot image which package I would miss. can someone confirm this before I make a bugreport? === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] <\sh> i can't even get the open file dialog [01:38] <\sh> cashing [01:38] <\sh> crashing even [01:39] oh [01:39] <\sh> it freezing and then comes the "window gimp is not responding" [01:40] good morning [01:42] hi slomo [01:46] siretart, I can open png files with the gimp in breezy ? [01:47] JanC: ok. then there is something wrong on my side. thank you [01:47] or something with the png file... [01:47] possibly [01:50] JanC: the png was corrupt === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0814.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-085-062.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mdke [n=matt@unaffiliated/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] hello! [02:03] is there any chance of getting a newer version of ddclient in breezy? [02:03] current one doesn't support dnspark [02:06] (3.6.2) === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-55-102.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-085-062.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] G'day All [02:10] mdke: hm. it's a leaf package, no packages depending on it. [02:10] siretart, is that good for my request? [02:11] something that is bad is that I notice that debian stable, testing and unstable all have the same version as Breezy [02:12] mdke: it's a bit dangerous then. I'd rather see a package, preferably in debian which I can consider.. [02:13] siretart, i/we could stress the debian maintainer about it? [02:13] how much time is there available? [02:14] mdke: we are already in feature freeze ;) [02:14] ah i thought that didn't apply to universe [02:14] mdke: you could file a wishlist bug against the debian package [02:14] ddclient is vital for me because otherwise I can't update my dynamic ip information with dnspark [02:15] i will file the bug and email the DD [02:15] :) === Aramil [n=tony@chan530-a044.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] gosh debian has a weird way of filing bugs [02:17] mdke: why weird? they have a nice mail interface. in addition to that, there is 'reportbug' [02:17] mdke: actually I like debians way better, you don't need to register [02:17] I wish ubuntu would use it [02:18] Yagisan: i also love the debian bts. but I don't think it would make sense for ubuntu [02:18] siretart: I really miss the mailing interface [02:18] i'm just not used to it [02:18] i'm used to using bugzilla [02:18] I had to register to report a bug [02:18] Yagisan: /me too [02:18] can someone tell me if this is the place to ask questions about packaging and get help on it? [02:18] siretart, anyway the bug is already open, since november :( [02:18] or should i ask somewhere else [02:18] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=279542 [02:18] jtan325: sure, just ask :) [02:19] ok [02:19] sweet [02:19] and reportbug helps me get all the dependencys needed for a good report [02:19] well siretart you recommended that DeveloperResources wiki page yesterday [02:19] i have been following the new main. guide step by step [02:19] and it's going quite well [02:19] my adventure into build a package for a small program [02:19] anyway [02:20] siretart, what do you think? that bug has been open for many months... [02:20] i am up to the point where i check my successfully-built package (using debuild) with lintian [02:20] lintian is complaining, E: conky: manpage-in-wrong-directory usr/share/man/mang/conky.1.gz, E: conky: manpage-in-wrong-directory usr/share/man/manh/docs.html.gz [02:20] (conky is the name of the package) [02:20] now [02:21] at first i thought my man page was messed up [02:21] in its .TH line [02:21] here is the .TH line for conky.1, which is located in the doc/ subdir from top-level [02:21] and the rule i used was "dh_installman doc/conky.1" [02:21] uuh, /me is no expert in man pages at all.. [02:21] sorry [02:22] .TH conky 1 2005\-08\-18 [02:22] mdke: that's sad. you can only try to help the maintainer in providing a patch, which upgrades to the newest version. [02:22] and i am pretty sure that's right === womble [n=mpalmer@eth359.nsw.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] so this puzzled me [02:22] so my next move to to just take out the dh_installman rule entirely [02:22] siretart, i don't know packaging... I will email the maintainer to see if he can do it, otherwise is there no possibility of getting an update in Ubuntu? [02:22] from debian/rules [02:23] and theoretically, this seems like it shouldn't try to install a manpage at all? [02:23] and so [02:23] i go ahead and do debuild from scratch again [02:23] but i get the same error [02:23] (lintian error, that is) [02:26] mdke: if you find someone packaging it for you, that would great. The thing is that our top priority is not getting NEW packages in or updating to newest version. thats too late for breezy [02:26] mdke: we are rather trying to stabilize universe atm, and really should concentrate on that [02:27] yeah i understand [02:27] it is a shame though [02:27] gtg [02:29] jtan325: are you trying to install html documentation as a manpage ? [02:29]