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| infinity | elmo : Danke. | 03:55 |
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| === infinity touches up .sbuildrc and restarts a buildd. | ||
| infinity | Oh, well, that worked smashingly. | 04:04 |
| === infinity smacks himself, adds linux32 to the chroots and tries again. | ||
| infinity | Much better. | 04:07 |
| elmo | pls to be fixing live + di builds too | 04:09 |
| elmo | I realise you're probably on it, I just don't want it to get forgotten | 04:09 |
| elmo | as I think mdz would be unamused by a G5-only colony 4 | 04:09 |
| infinity | Heh. | 04:13 |
| infinity | More interestingly, we don't have linux32 on warty. | 04:13 |
| elmo | what's it linux32-ing in the chroot? | 04:14 |
| elmo | can't it just linux32 the chroot call? | 04:15 |
| infinity | That's the way build_env_cmnd works, it calls "exec linux32 dpkg-buildpackage" in the chroot. | 04:15 |
| infinity | But I suppose we could just run buildd itself under linux32 in the base. | 04:15 |
| infinity | Don't see why that wouldn't work. | 04:15 |
| elmo | well, except then we can't exclude packages | 04:16 |
| elmo | not sure if we need to or not | 04:16 |
| infinity | I can't see why we'd want to. | 04:17 |
| elmo | some things want to be built on a powerpc64? | 04:17 |
| elmo | maybe they don't check and/or care | 04:17 |
| infinity | linux32 only changes the behaviour of uname, not much else. Anything that wants/needs to build 64-bit binaries still can, it just needs to explicitly call gcc -m64 | 04:17 |
| elmo | but I don't know if gcc -m64 works when uname returns ppc | 04:17 |
| elmo | I know the debian kernel package breaks with sparc32 | 04:18 |
| elmo | dunno who's fault that is tho | 04:18 |
| infinity | Well, the kernel tries to autoguess what target to build for by looking at uname. | 04:18 |
| infinity | But that can be forced, as we do in our kernel builds. | 04:18 |
| infinity | (Hence how we've been building ppc64 kernels just fine on ppc32 until now) | 04:19 |
| elmo | ok | 04:19 |
| elmo | well, I've got a b-at run pending anyway, so I guess we'll find out | 04:19 |
| elmo | *mutter* die postgres die *mutter | 04:19 |
| infinity | So, yeah. If proper packaging assumes the machine will always return sparc/powerpc/hppa, and not sparc64/powerpc64/hppa64, then the whole buildd should be linux32'd anyway. | 04:19 |
| infinity | (or is that parisc/parisc64?... I can never remember) | 04:20 |
| infinity | Now, the only question is where it's best to implement that, so people can't shoot themselves in the feet by accidentally restarting without the linux32 call. | 04:20 |
| infinity | I suppose buildd's call to sbuild would be a safe bet. | 04:21 |
| infinity | Alright, that should do it. | 04:39 |
| infinity | Now the only remaining question is if I should just hardcode it for powerpc/sparc/hppa, and make the buildd package depend on linux32 on those arches. | 04:40 |
| infinity | Which may be more sane than a wishy-washy, I-might-forget-to-set-it config option. | 04:40 |
| elmo | does linux32 work/exist on sparc? | 04:41 |
| elmo | debian uses 'sparc32' from sparcutils instead | 04:41 |
| infinity | It works on sparc just fine. | 04:41 |
| infinity | sparc32 exists because it was the first kernel to implement personalities. | 04:41 |
| elmo | ok | 04:42 |
| infinity | linux32 is the genericisation of that. | 04:42 |
| elmo | I reckon hardcode and depend on then | 04:42 |
| infinity | <nod>.. That feels more right to me. | 04:43 |
| infinity | I can have a config option to let you override it, should you feel the strange desire (ie: call linux64 instead of linux32, to force an all-64-bit buildd) | 04:43 |
| elmo | argh | 04:43 |
| elmo | you andreas jochens fan boy | 04:43 |
| infinity | Heh. | 04:44 |
| infinity | It's more just the thought that anything being autoconfigured in buildd/sbuild should be reasonably overridable, and the defaults should be sane. | 04:44 |
| infinity | linux32 feels like the sane default, but who knows if we may want to throw up a buildd with the reverse config some day "just cause". | 04:44 |
| infinity | Oh, feh. We should also promote linux32 to main. | 04:47 |
| elmo | boggle | 04:48 |
| elmo | god yes | 04:48 |
| elmo | christ I missed the deadline for "get these things into main" AGAIN | 04:48 |
| === infinity goes to clean up the code a bit, commit, then attack live/d-i. | ||
| infinity | Will mdz demand a MainInclusionReport for this, or do you want to just seed it? | 04:51 |
| elmo | uh, I dunno, I suppose we should ask | 04:51 |
| elmo | if I abuse my dak supah powahs, it makes it harder for me to shout at him rm-ing random files | 04:51 |
| infinity | <nod>... No big deal if it doesn't get seeded, I guess, but I consider linux32 a necessary part of package development on 32/64 platforms. | 04:51 |
| infinity | I don't suppose we have a hoary-cat yet? ;) | 04:55 |
| lamont | jbailey: wth is springgraph/ | 05:05 |
| lamont | ? | 05:05 |
| jbailey | It's a graphviz clone. | 05:05 |
| jbailey | Why are3 you asking me? =) | 05:05 |
| lamont | because you're Mr CDBS, ofcourse | 05:05 |
| elmo | infinity: no, sorry, meh | 05:06 |
| elmo | I really want that myself | 05:06 |
| infinity | Lamont picked a fine time to kill his connection. | 05:55 |
| infinity | Oh well, guess I'll manually roll these changes out for now, and lamont can clean up with a proper release later. | 06:01 |
| infinity | (ps: did I mention how much I'd love hoary-cat?) | 06:01 |
| infinity | Alright, buildds are all back up and happy. live and d-i next. | 06:06 |
| infinity | elmo : Thanks for this, by the way. I'm fairly certain it was desperately needed. | 06:07 |
| infinity | I'll do a mass give-back in a bit and see how many failures mysteriously clear up. | 06:07 |
| infinity | There, live and DI are fixed up too. | 06:51 |
| fabbione | morning | 07:09 |
| fabbione | jbailey, doko, elmo: any chance to get binutils fixed asap? | 07:28 |
| fabbione | (for sparc i mean) | 07:29 |
| doko | morning fabbione | 07:50 |
| doko | elmo: please install libgl1-mesa-dev and libglu1-mesa-dev on davis/breezy, the xlibmesa packages were not removed automatically | 07:52 |
| fabbione | doko: yo | 08:04 |
| fabbione | doko: i start to be under pressure with binutils | 08:04 |
| fabbione | after seb uploaded all of gnome again, almost all of it is FTBFS due to that problem | 08:04 |
| doko | fabbione: understood | 08:06 |
| fabbione | thanks | 08:06 |
| doko | elmo: do you have a pre-unstable version of the patch available, that we can apply for sparc (maybe hppa) only? | 08:07 |
| fabbione | doko: afaik the patch is required for sparc and hppa.. | 08:07 |
| fabbione | and alpha.. | 08:07 |
| fabbione | but we don't have alpha so ENOCARE | 08:07 |
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| infinity | fabbione : Alright, do you want to know how to fix mesa for sparc? | 12:19 |
| fabbione | infinity: nope... | 12:19 |
| fabbione | or better.. | 12:19 |
| fabbione | yes i want to know | 12:19 |
| fabbione | because i don't know how to | 12:19 |
| infinity | Actually, I'm sure you can figure it out. :) | 12:20 |
| infinity | Anyhow, three simple steps: | 12:20 |
| infinity | 1: Build libdrm_1.0.3-2 (which just showed up in wanna-build) | 12:20 |
| infinity | 2: preseed your chroot with reasonably recent libglu1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dev, mesa-common-dev. | 12:20 |
| infinity | 3: build mesa_6.3.2-0ubuntu2 | 12:21 |
| infinity | 4: Never have to worry about build-dep loops again, cause the most recent mesa no longer has any. | 12:21 |
| fabbione | 2) <- i don't have any recent libglu1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-dev, mesa-common-dev. | 12:21 |
| fabbione | or are they arch: all??? | 12:21 |
| infinity | mesa-common-dev is arch:all, the others are arch:any, that's where the problem was. | 12:21 |
| fabbione | infinity: i don't think i even have them anywhere... | 12:22 |
| infinity | If you haven't built mesa for a week or more, you shouldn't be hooped in the first place, since you can build against libgl1-xorg-dev and such. | 12:22 |
| fabbione | libglu1-mesa_6.3.1.1-0ubuntu1_sparc.deb | 12:22 |
| fabbione | this is the most recent one i have | 12:23 |
| infinity | That looks recent to me. | 12:23 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 12:23 |
| fabbione | it might have built while i was sleeping | 12:23 |
| fabbione | and i missed it.. | 12:23 |
| infinity | Install that, plus the matching libgl1-mesa, plus the matching -dev packages, plus mesa-common-dev, ann in the same versions. | 12:23 |
| infinity | s/ann/all/ | 12:23 |
| infinity | Once the new mesa has been built, you can clean them out of your chroot, and life resumes as normal. | 12:23 |
| fabbione | infinity: well as soon as i build the new mesa i should be fine... | 12:24 |
| infinity | Right, once you have the new mesa, you're fine. But you need the old to build the new (hence the problem) | 12:24 |
| infinity | And the old has exact version deps between arch:any and arch:all packages. | 12:24 |
| fabbione | ok, but it seems i have the old ones... | 12:24 |
| fabbione | AHH CRAP | 12:24 |
| fabbione | ok | 12:24 |
| === fabbione understands now... | ||
| infinity | Right. :) | 12:25 |
| infinity | If you don't have the old arch:all .deb lying around, you can --force-depends with a more recent version just long enough to get the new mesa built and you'll be fine. | 12:25 |
| infinity | Just keep in mind that you need libdrm first, cause mesa build-deps on it. | 12:25 |
| fabbione | yup... | 12:26 |
| fabbione | doing it | 12:26 |
| fabbione | -2 ? | 12:26 |
| fabbione | yeah.. it's not in my local archive yet... | 12:27 |
| fabbione | i need to wait for it | 12:27 |
| infinity | Yeah, -2. | 12:27 |
| infinity | -1 was a little bit broken. Just a tad. | 12:27 |
| fabbione | ehehe | 12:28 |
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| elmo | infinity/lamont: breezy-at is finally going, FYI | 06:13 |
| infinity | elmo : Yay. Does this mean I can bug you about hoary-cat again? ;) | 06:23 |
| elmo | christing bananas | 06:27 |
| elmo | adelie's going nuts trying to cope with all the logs | 06:27 |
| elmo | (fails, I assume) | 06:27 |
| infinity | I only have 178 -autotest failures in my INBOX so far. | 06:28 |
| infinity | But if they're all backlogged, I guess I'll see more. :) | 06:28 |
| elmo | well, it's sending to lamont | 06:29 |
| elmo | probably over, like a piece of string, by way of alsaka or something | 06:29 |
| infinity | <snicker> | 06:29 |
| infinity | Yeah, mine all go to a host in a datacenter with multiple GigE carriers and a 100Mbit port on the box. | 06:30 |
| infinity | So, I doubt I'm a bottleneck. | 06:30 |
| infinity | Of course, then I access said mail via IMAP from my tin cans and string in Australia, but let's not split hairs. | 06:30 |
| lamont-away | elmo: it's sending over a straw of 25kbps, which it shares with the upload/download queue for the buildd | 06:38 |
| lamont-away | so it's not _quite_ string and tin-cans | 06:39 |
| jbailey | lamont-away: Haven't you moved that under your desk at work yet? =) | 06:39 |
| lamont-away | jbailey: there's another one under the desk, which gets _VERY_ annoyed at HP's proxies | 06:39 |
| lamont-away | which are "transparent" | 06:39 |
| lamont-away | and given bandwidth available at the site, I think elmo would be conflicted about whether I should set up shop there... | 06:40 |
| elmo | buildd mail isn't going to hurt gluck | 06:43 |
| lamont-away | it's more the up/down loads of the buildd | 06:43 |
| elmo | dude, I ran two buildds on a 2Mb connection | 06:44 |
| elmo | your two debian buildds in fact :) | 06:44 |
| lamont-away | ah, ok. I'll like move it then | 06:44 |
| lamont-away | infinity: you upload a buildable mesa yet? :-) | 06:51 |
| lamont-away | ah, daniels uploaded... maybe ubuntu3 will build for me. | 06:52 |
| infinity | lamont-away : Oh, you'll need to handhold it once. | 06:52 |
| lamont-away | grrrrrr | 06:52 |
| lamont-away | but only once? | 06:52 |
| infinity | lamont-away : Make sure the latest libdrm is built first. | 06:52 |
| lamont-away | oh, that part is fine. | 06:53 |
| lamont-away | it was the circular build-dep on itself that was annoying me most | 06:53 |
| infinity | lamont-away : Then pre-seed a chroot with reasonably recent libgl1-mesa-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev, mesa-common-dev, libgl1-mesa, libglu1-mesa. | 06:53 |
| infinity | lamont-away : Then build the most recent mesa, and you'll never see this loop again (cause it's gone) | 06:53 |
| lamont-away | woohoo!!!! | 06:53 |
| infinity | lamont-away : Can't avoid the circular build-dep loop until you have the new one built, obviously. So, once you've done the preseed dance, you're fine from here on in. | 06:54 |
| lamont-away | thanks muchly | 06:55 |
| lamont-away | elmo: the only other real challenge hppa has so far is that the following packages are in universe, but need to be in main: | 06:56 |
| lamont-away | expect-tcl8.3-dev_5.43.0-2_hppa.deb expect-tcl8.3_5.43.0-2_hppa.deb expectk-tk8.3_5.43.0-2_hppa.deb gcc-3.4-hppa64_3.4.4-5ubuntu1_hppa.deb libgcc2_4.0.1-4ubuntu4_hppa.deb palo_1.9_hppa.deb | 06:56 |
| doko | heh, yes, libgcc2 is nice to have :-) | 06:57 |
| elmo | lamont: if you jump through the required hoops, I could/would | 06:58 |
| elmo | well, at least for new source packages | 06:59 |
| elmo | are any of those from packages already in main? | 06:59 |
| lamont-away | gcc-3.4-hppa64 is from gcc-3.4, libgcc2 comes from 3.4 or 4.0 | 06:59 |
| elmo | hmm, crap, the problem is germinate doesn't do hppa | 06:59 |
| lamont-away | right | 06:59 |
| elmo | how stable is hppa ATM? | 06:59 |
| lamont-away | seems to be stable-ish | 06:59 |
| lamont-away | buildd is running breezy | 07:00 |
| lamont-away | hrm.. actually, hoary/breezy mix.. | 07:00 |
| lamont-away | most things pinned at hoary | 07:00 |
| elmo | I'll try adding hppa to germinate temporarily, see how bad the damage is | 07:00 |
| elmo | are you using onion on hppa? | 07:00 |
| lamont-away | yes | 07:01 |
| elmo | ok | 07:01 |
| infinity | lamont-away : Have you merged the patches I sent you to your arch archives? | 07:01 |
| lamont-away | since the beginning of time (hoary archive on people was built using ogre-model) | 07:01 |
| elmo | btw, I dunno how useful it is, but neuro's done auto-dep-wait in w-b | 07:01 |
| lamont-away | infinity: I just read them a couple minutes ago | 07:01 |
| lamont-away | elmo: yeah, we probably want to merge that in | 07:01 |
| fabbione | infinity: patch to do what? | 07:01 |
| infinity | elmo : Yeah, I was going to look at it and merge it if it looked decent. | 07:01 |
| lamont-away | more merge our changes forward to his base | 07:02 |
| lamont-away | or something like that | 07:02 |
| infinity | lamont-away : Merging w-b in general is on my TODO anyway. | 07:02 |
| lamont-away | right | 07:02 |
| infinity | (The new faster DB access could be nice too, if elmo doesn't mind blowing away all the DBs in the process of upgrading) | 07:02 |
| elmo | uhm | 07:02 |
| elmo | heck yes I mind | 07:02 |
| lamont-away | infinity: I'll get those patches you sent merged in sometime soon, and look at switching the master/mirror status of the archives around, albeit probably thu/fri | 07:03 |
| elmo | neuro managed to transition them? | 07:03 |
| infinity | Yeah, I believe he did. | 07:03 |
| lamont-away | elmo: ISTR something from him about how he'd, um, managed to wind up doing a mass-give-back of everything... | 07:03 |
| infinity | OTOH, we have very little history in our DB worth caring about, since we don't tend to fail many/any packages with informative messages. | 07:03 |
| infinity | Yeah, he gave back everything in building. That was an oops. | 07:03 |
| infinity | But he kept the entire failure history, that was the important bit for Debian. | 07:04 |
| lamont-away | infinity: some days I actually reply with bug numbers... | 07:04 |
| infinity | Not sure how much we care about that. | 07:04 |
| lamont-away | but that tends to be packages that someone uploaded broken, and then didn' | 07:04 |
| infinity | Rebuilding our DB's from scratch based on the archive state wouldn't really hurt us much. | 07:04 |
| lamont-away | t fix for a few days | 07:04 |
| lamont-away | back in a few | 07:04 |
| elmo | infinity: I don't care about breezy | 07:04 |
| elmo | I care slightly more about << breezy | 07:05 |
| infinity | Ahh, yeah. I can see that. | 07:05 |
| elmo | gar, germinate so slow | 07:05 |
| infinity | Well, we can look into smooth upgrades when I find the round tuits required to exercise some WAB on infrastructure. | 07:05 |
| elmo | ok, hppa's pulling in random crap | 07:08 |
| elmo | Building : 1123 (buildd+rothera: 1093, buildd+terranova: 9, | 07:09 |
| elmo | uhh | 07:10 |
| elmo | someone might want to check on rothera | 07:10 |
| infinity | I'm going to assume that's the good ol' "oh god, my apt md5sums are buggered, I'm going to depwait the world on debhelper" bug. | 07:10 |
| elmo | no | 07:10 |
| elmo | E: The package eclipse-ecj needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. | 07:10 |
| === infinity goes ot look. | ||
| === infinity boggles at how rothera's breezy-at chroot can get away with not having libstdc++6 installed.. | ||
| elmo | oh crap, I forgot to trash the w-b databases | 07:14 |
| elmo | now they're full of d-w, d-w-r, f and f-r | 07:14 |
| infinity | Hrm, perhaps we should have made sure the breezy-at chroots were fresh, clean, and ready to go before firing up the run. | 07:16 |
| infinity | Should we start this experiment over again? :) | 07:16 |
| elmo | yeah, sounds like a plan | 07:17 |
| infinity | lamont-away : How away are you actually right now? | 07:17 |
| infinity | lamont-away : It's 3:17am for me, and I'm being dragged to bed. If you want to check/rebuild the -autotest chroots, that'd be cool. Otherwise, I should do it in the morning. | 07:18 |
| infinity | elmo : Can you open the floodgates at the touch of a button after we clean stuff up and poke you? | 07:18 |
| elmo | yeah | 07:18 |
| elmo | I'm redoing the import process on rockhopper now | 07:18 |
| elmo | so just yell whenever | 07:19 |
| infinity | Alright. Let's call this a mind-boggling oops, then, and I'll check the chroots in the morning and make sure it's all good. | 07:19 |
| === infinity allows himself to be dragged off to bed, then. | ||
| lamont | not so away | 07:41 |
| lamont | elmo/infinity: so we just need to nuke/rebuild the -autotest chroots? | 07:42 |
| elmo | lamont: nuke might be a bit harsh, certainly check+sanitize tho | 07:44 |
| lamont | yeah - but nuke is trivial.... :-) | 07:45 |
| lamont | umount in a loop, build-chroot buildd breezy -autotest, fin. | 07:45 |
| lamont | well, with a rm -rf after the umounts | 07:46 |
| === lamont undertakes the process | ||
| elmo | thanks | 07:48 |
| lamont | first 4 done, second 8 cleaning now | 07:55 |
| lamont | (new math) | 07:55 |
| lamont | elmo: breezy-autotest thinks it's a 'go' as far as buildd's are concerned | 08:07 |
| elmo | lamont: cool, thanks | 08:09 |
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| lamont | Subject: Log for failed build of glibc_2.3.5-1ubuntu10 (dist=breezy-autotest) | 08:38 |
| lamont | grumble | 08:38 |
| elmo | is that a genuine failure/ | 08:39 |
| lamont | no... build-tree disappeared from under it. | 08:40 |
| elmo | ah | 08:40 |
| elmo | heh | 08:40 |
| lamont | which could be me nuking it, or -1ubuntu11 got uploaded... | 08:40 |
| lamont | probably the first | 08:40 |
| elmo | hum? it's b-at | 08:40 |
| elmo | I nuked everything from under it, w-b.. the archive.. | 08:40 |
| lamont | elmo: what process do I need to follow for those debs to move to main? | 08:40 |
| lamont | doh. b-at --> almost certainly the former. :-) | 08:41 |
| elmo | see MainInclusionQueue on the wiki | 08:41 |
| lamont | cool | 08:41 |
| elmo | I think.. grepping for MainInclusion should give you some hints | 08:41 |
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