[12:00] <ray_> how do you identify?
[12:00] <sean_> nickserv wont change ur enick unless the registered user wants
[12:00] <mary-kate> /ns identify yourpass
[12:00] <sean_> i know, beaucse im not the registered user of this nick :p
[12:00] <nalioth> ray_: /msg nickserv identify <password>
[12:00] <mary-kate> then why use it if it isn't yours?
[12:00] <ero-senni> hey anyone want to be a guiney pig?
[12:01] <ray_> depends what it is
[12:01] <sean_> beacuse im sean? and what do i really care?
[12:01] <mary-kate> so you don't care if someone ghosts you?
[12:01] <ero-senni> im writing a tutorial on installing gsnes9x
[12:01] <mary-kate> lol
[12:01] <sean_> not in the slightest
[12:01] <ero-senni> i just need someone to follow it, and just make sure i didn't forget anything
[12:01] <andres> hi
[12:01] <ray_> gsnes9x........whats that a gui for snes9x?
[12:01] <ero-senni> yes
[12:01] <Fingolfinn> i need help with ubuntu PPC, firewire dual booting
[12:01] <ray_> send me the link i will try
[12:02] <ero-senni> http://home.comcast.net/~microsoftsux0rs/tut.txt
[12:02] <andres> question, i ran apt-get install mozilla-firefox and got the following:mozilla-firefox: Depends_firefox but it is not installable
[12:02] <ero-senni> i think i installed some libarys to get it working, as soon as you tell me the error ill write it in the tutorial
[12:02] <ray_> ero-senni: isnt snes9express the gui version.....whats the diff
[12:03] <ero-senni> snes9xepress looks prettier
[12:03] <ero-senni> but i couldn't get it work
[12:03] <andres> anyone can help me?
[12:03] <tristanmike> andres, are you sure you don't have it installed already?
[12:03] <ero-senni> andres use synaptic to update firefox
[12:03] <andres> no
[12:03] <andres> how do i use synaptic
[12:03] <ray_> ero-senni: all you have to do is apt-get it
[12:03] <ero-senni> andres, do apt-get install firefox
[12:03] <andres> yes, i've done that
[12:04] <andres> ant i get that error
[12:04] <ero-senni> do you have root permissions?
[12:04] <tristanmike> andres, check synaptic
[12:04] <ero-senni> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:04] <andres> i've done a dist-upgrade to hoary
[12:04] <ero-senni> holy crap
[12:04] <tristanmike> lol
[12:04] <tristanmike> it's not funny, but that reaction was funny
[12:04] <andres> no, synaptic is a gui for apt
[12:05] <ray_> ero-senni: did you get it.........im not gonna do that install you sent me because i just got snes9express
[12:05] <EasterSunshine> andres: take the cd sources out of your sources.list and try again
[12:05] <andres> yep, i've done that already
[12:05] <andres> and ran an apt-get update
[12:05] <ero-senni> ray_,  im running amd64 ubuntu hoary
[12:05] <Fingolfinn> helpless helpless helpless helpless
[12:05] <ero-senni> its not instable
[12:05] <andres> and still having the same problem
[12:05] <sean_> snes9xpress? i like the sound of that, hows it run?
[12:06] <ero-senni> installable*
[12:06] <Fingolfinn> i wanna be in an Apple band
[12:06] <ray_> sean_: it is awsome nice gui.....you can make it look just like a snes
[12:06] <icewt> when i last time fired up ubuntu, a check of some partition was forced (/foo/bar has not been checked for X days, check forced, or something). i wonder where those texts go? are they logged somewhere? don't say /var/log - not there
[12:06] <sean_> damn sounds great ray_ thanks for the tip
[12:07] <tristanmike> ray, better than zsnes?
[12:07] <ray_> way better than zsnes
[12:07] <ray_> zsnes is horrible..........snes9express gives you all sorts of video options
[12:07] <sean_> yeah i agree with ya there, i hated plain old znes
[12:07] <ero-senni> im gonna see if i can install snesxpress through source
[12:07] <ero-senni> brb
[12:08] <BTJustice> How do you allow root to log into KDE?
[12:08] <tristanmike> horrible for linux? cause I've never had a problem with the win32 version
[12:08] <sean_> win32 version is pimp :p
[12:08] <martin> Question: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?
[12:08] <sean_> linux version not so pimp
[12:08] <tristanmike> ahhh, i c
[12:08] <dan2_> I'm having some difficulty using nvidia drivers on ubuntu
[12:08] <tristanmike> fair enough
[12:08] <dan2_> I keep getting this
[12:08] <dan2_> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[12:08] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, don't run kde as a root user
[12:09] <Nuckin_Futs>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY pa3291u
[12:09] <BTJustice> I am not going to get on the Internet with it
[12:09] <Nuckin_Futs> WHAt
[12:09] <Nuckin_Futs> ignore that
[12:09] <andres> look, this is the exact error: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:09] <andres>   mozilla-firefox: Depends: firefox but it is not installable
[12:09] <andres> E: Broken packages
[12:09] <BTJustice> LinuxJones: I am not going to get on the Internet with it
[12:09] <Nuckin_Futs> hi
[12:09] <zaki_> hello
[12:09] <ntoblack> howdy
[12:09] <tristanmike> ray, so should I install all files associated with 9x?
[12:10] <Nuckin_Futs> when i try to instal SWAT i get this message
[12:10] <Fingolfinn> lalalalalala
[12:10] <codecaine> Nuckin_Futs, change your pass now
[12:10] <ray_> tristanmike: just........sudo apt-get install snes9espress
[12:10] <nalioth> BTJustice: a good rule of thumb is not to run any gui file manager as root (turns some of into "file manglers")
[12:10] <Nuckin_Futs> codecaine i should
[12:10] <Nuckin_Futs> how
[12:10] <LinuxJones> Nuckin_Futs, best to change your password >> /msg nickserv set password YourNewPassord
[12:10] <codecaine> there
[12:10] <tristanmike> ray, right so no front-end, no opengl binarys, just the main program?
[12:10] <Fingolfinn> mac users are 1 in 30
[12:10] <Nuckin_Futs> k thx LinuxJones
[12:11] <dalamar> you want the front end if your running it in X
[12:11] <LinuxJones> Nuckin_Futs, but not in this channel :)
[12:11] <ero-senni> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:11] <ero-senni>   snes9express: Depends: snes9x-x but it is not installable
[12:11] <ero-senni> E: Broken packages
[12:11] <Fingolfinn> but there are 507 people in here
[12:11] <ero-senni> hah!
[12:11] <Fingolfinn> where the fuck are the mac heads that know ubuntu
[12:11] <Fingolfinn> lol
[12:11] <dalamar> you need base snes9x and snes9xexpress, and the gl if you wanna run the gl
[12:11] <ray_> tristanmike: well it gets the snes9-x and snes9-common files when you apt
[12:11] <LinuxJones> BTJustice, it's too easy to make a mistake and totally screw up your computer
[12:11] <Nuckin_Futs> when i try to install SWAT i get this message: swat:
[12:11] <Nuckin_Futs>   Depends: samba (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed
[12:11] <ero-senni> holy crap i got it to compile
[12:11] <ray_> ero-senni: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:12] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: what mac question do you have?
[12:12] <ero-senni> well ray_ , i just got it to install from source
[12:12] <Fingolfinn> I'm having severe difficulty getting my firewire installation of ubuntu to boot
[12:12] <Fingolfinn> the yaboot wouldn't install, and i'm having no luck booting manually from the firmware prompt
[12:12] <ero-senni> screw the gsnes9x pos
[12:13] <ray_> tristanmike: what do you mean front-end    snes9express is the front end
[12:13] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: preface your comments aimed at specific people with that persons nick, please
[12:13] <Fingolfinn> okay
[12:13] <tristanmike> ray, sorry, I'm just looking at the packages through synaptic
[12:13] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: where is your yaboot and what is in it?
[12:13] <ray_> i have 900 snes roms   : ))))
[12:13] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: it failed to install
[12:13] <tristanmike> NICE
[12:13] <sean_> damn ray nice collectiopn
[12:13] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: failed to install WHERE?
[12:13] <Stormx> Hey
[12:14] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: on the firewire hardrive
[12:14] <dalamar> theres only about 20 good ones, anyway I have the whole rom set on my xbox
[12:14] <ray_> tristanmike: if you have limewire or gtk-gnutella you can download them there
[12:14] <vladuz976> ubuntu doesn't have a .xinitrc or .xsession file?
[12:14] <ray_> dalamar: you play them on your xbox?
[12:14] <tristanmike> ray, but I must make sure I get the originals first ;)
[12:14] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: you will have to install yaboot on your fixed hard drive and edit it to point to your fw drive, i believe
[12:14] <dalamar> ray_, along with half a dozen other emus yes
[12:15] <ray_> dalamar: how?
[12:15] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: what does that require in terms of repartitioning?
[12:15] <mihai> what's the package name for xfce ? apt-get install xfce doesn't work
[12:15] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: if you're lucky, you have some slack space already
[12:15] <Vash|away> will the nvidia ubuntu drivers work with PCI versions too?
[12:15] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: that's all I need?
[12:15] <Stormx> mihai: Use synaptic and run a search
[12:15] <vader1102> apt-get install xfce4
[12:15] <dalamar> ray_, modded xbox running emulators off a dvd with the full romsets included
[12:15] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: but the boot partition only requires >1mb
[12:16] <Fingolfinn> okay let me try that
[12:16] <Nuckin_Futs> can some one please tell me what this message is trying to say:  swat:
[12:16] <Nuckin_Futs>   Depends: samba (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed
[12:16] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: be careful mucking with your partitions
[12:16] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: but I also have problems identifying the firewire hardrive
[12:16] <ray_> dalamar: i couls never figure out how to mod an xbox
[12:16] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, it says, kick the backports goodbye or swat
[12:16] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: it's seen as a scsi drive
[12:16] <Seveas> can't have them both
[12:16] <Stormx> ray_: Take it apart and add / remove stuff?
[12:16] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: so it'll be sdb or sda or whatever
[12:17] <Nuckin_Futs> k thx seveas
[12:17] <sean_> man breezy update takes forever
[12:17] <ray_> well i put a mod chip in my friends
[12:17] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: do you know what format of address it should be pointed to?
[12:17] <ray_> but it didnt work
[12:17] <dalamar> ray_, its actually really easy if you have a router and can connect the xbox to the network, I don't even have a chip installed its just software modded
[12:17] <Stormx> ray_ You didn't just put it in the cd rom drive did you?
[12:17] <nate_> Hey, its me again
[12:17] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: when you have your fw drive plugged into your ubuntu, run "sudo fdisk -l" to see what it is
[12:17] <Fingolfinn> nalioth, the other problem is, my computer will no longer recognize the firewire hardrive
[12:17] <nate_> Can someone else try installing java, to see if its not just me?
[12:17] <ray_> dalamar: yeah i have mine hooked to a router] 
[12:18] <Stormx> + You can get linux on your xbox, which I havn't done
[12:18] <ray_> nate_: what did you try
[12:18] <Stormx> My bro put it on Dreamcast, though
[12:18] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: have you plugged it in, and unplugged it during this session?
[12:18] <sean_> linux on your x-box is not for sale in north america anymore, or for ps2..
[12:18] <dalamar> ray_, do some reading on xbox-scene.com or try #xbox on efnet
[12:18] <sean_> unless u Ebay it
[12:18] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: no, it says it's unreadable
[12:18] <nate_> ray_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[12:18] <dalamar> sean_, it never was for sale it was a custom job from the beginning
[12:18] <vader1102> sean_ that's because they haven
[12:18] <nate_> I tried doing this AFTER adding extra repos
[12:18] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: it recognizes it in disk utility however
[12:19] <vader1102> anymore kits
[12:19] <dalamar> sean_, which you can still do
[12:19] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: ah. i'm clueless about that. i'd reboot and replug it and see
[12:19] <ray_> nate_: ok what is the error
[12:19] <sean_> dalamar , theres a whole kit u can by, not so custom
[12:19] <dalamar> sean_, waste of money ;) its fairly simple once you know how to softmod the xbox
[12:19] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: it's the file system format, it's not readable by mac os x, it won't mount
[12:19] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[12:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[12:19] <Seveas> !tell nate_ about ubuntuguide
[12:19] <sean_> lol, i like doing things the easy way lol
[12:19] <ewhitten> do I need to enable inotify with a kernel option at boot?  And is it safe?
[12:19] <sean_> but softmodding sounds like a neat concept
[12:19] <Vash> Something is wrong with the NVIDIA Drivers
[12:20] <ewhitten> (for breezy, sorry)
[12:20] <nate_> I already know about the Ubuntu guide
[12:20] <SweetDreams> guys can u help me here? i am new to ubuntu! i've done what ubuntuguide tells us to do concerning the sound but i still dont have sound, any suggestions?
[12:20] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: i added something to ubotu, can you verify if its okay? it is "upgrade2breezy"
[12:20] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: which OS "futzed" the fs?
[12:20] <Seveas> sean_, dalamar, take this highly off topic discussion somewhere else...
[12:20] <nate_> I did the extra repos and still get an error
[12:20] <Vash> I followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and everything seems ok, but when ubuntu goes to the graphical login, I get a black screen.
[12:20] <dalamar> anyways
[12:20] <Nuckin_Futs> Vash: when i installed nVidia driver i had to re-install ubuntu, messed up my res and wouldnt let ubuntu start
[12:20] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: what do you mean?
[12:20] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: mac os x 10.4.2
[12:21] <EasterSunshine> IceDC571: i sleep with it
[12:21] <ewhitten> cheater!
[12:21] <ewhitten> *sniff*
[12:21] <sean_> wow.. channel nazi... so much for the humanity feeling
[12:21] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: so the data on the fw is ext3 or hfs+ ?
[12:21] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: the line of code you said to enter returned the following: fdisk: illegal option -- 1
[12:22] <Fingolfinn> ext3
[12:22] <Seveas> that kind of talk is not allowed...
[12:22] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: it is an lowercase L as in Lion
[12:22] <Fingolfinn> oh my bad
[12:22] <Fingolfinn> ^.^
[12:22] <IceDC571> EasterSunshine: do you usually fall alseep with scrolling text?
[12:22] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: this will allow your OSX to read/write to your ubuntu partitions  http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[12:22] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: says the same thing except with an 'l'
[12:23] <EasterSunshine> IceDC571: dunno what you mean...but no
[12:23] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: hmm, i ran "sudo fdisk -l" and got a nice output
[12:23] <sockpuppe1> a quick question.. do I need postfix to be running if im not using a mail server
[12:23] <Vash> it shouldn't make any difference that my gfx card is on PCI, right?
[12:23] <EasterSunshine> sockpuppe1: no
[12:23] <sockpuppe1> thanks
[12:23] <Fingolfinn> no go
[12:24] <Seveas> (bot abuse, both)
[12:24] <Fingolfinn> i have 2 firewire disks plugged in
[12:24] <arik> hey Seveas
[12:24] <Fingolfinn> *nalioth: i have 2 firewire disks plugged in
[12:24] <drudge> hello
[12:25] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: "sudo fdisk -l" will (L)ist all devices currently mounted
[12:25] <Fingolfinn> let me try the reading/writing jazz thing
[12:25] <arik> i cant change the resolution
[12:25] <Fingolfinn> it doesn't have that as an explanation under the guidelines described
[12:25] <Seveas> arik: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:25] <morbidi> arik: how big is your monitor ?
[12:25] <arik> how do i make it 1024
[12:25] <sockpuppe1> you guys ever heard of bum?
[12:25] <arik> 17inches
[12:25] <Seveas> sockpuppe1, of course :)
[12:25] <vader1102> !wow! I haven't seen that many bans in that short a time in a while
[12:25] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, vader1102
[12:25] <vader1102> lol
[12:25] <drudge> im trying to setup my wifi, i am using ndiswrapper and the prism02 driver, and i am able to see my router but it doesn't lease an ip
[12:25] <NoUse> !bum
[12:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[12:25] <Fingolfinn> *nalioth: it doesn't have that as an explanation under the guidelines described
[12:26] <sockpuppe1> seveas I think its pretty kickass
[12:26] <Seveas> vader1102, I was checking the bot stats
[12:26] <vader1102> forgot about that lol
[12:26] <shorty114> are dual procs easy to configure?
[12:26] <Seveas> bot abuse is stupid and you get banned for it...
[12:26] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: what isnt explained?
[12:26] <vader1102> lol
[12:26] <sockpuppe1> and breezy colony 3 runs perfectly (as far as I saw) on my hardware
[12:26] <nalioth> shorty114: sure they are (at least on my dual-G5 mac)
[12:26] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: l as an option
[12:26] <shorty114> nalioth, i'm thinking of buying a machine with dual 3.2 P4's
[12:26] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: you are using hoary? and bash as your shell?
[12:27] <shorty114> are dual procs supported well?
[12:27] <Seveas> shorty114, yes
[12:27] <nalioth> shorty114: np at all, just use apt-get to install your smp kernel, and you're in business
[12:27] <Fingolfinn> this might be a problem: tcsh: /sw/bin/init.csh: No such file or directory.
[12:27] <shorty114> nalioth, sweet, thanks.
[12:27] <EasterSunshine> shorty114: linux runs on comps with 512 processors, 2 processors is a walk in the park
[12:27] <icewt> is there an easy way to enter a mode where running fsck is safe?
[12:27] <arik> is there no? windows version for this seveas?
[12:27] <Fingolfinn> *Nalioth: this might be a problem: tcsh: /sw/bin/init.csh: No such file or directory.
[12:28] <Seveas> arik, for what?
[12:28] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i'm not sure what bash or shell i'm using
[12:28] <arik> configuration?
[12:28] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: shouldnt matter, fdisk is shell independent
[12:28] <Seveas> X does not run on windows...
[12:28] <EasterSunshine> Fingolfinn: do `ps` that will tell you what shell
[12:29] <Fingolfinn> tcsh
[12:29] <EasterSunshine> wow...where did you find a tcsh?
[12:29] <EasterSunshine> i don't even have that installed
[12:29] <Fingolfinn> no clue
[12:29] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, good :)
[12:29] <Akbar> :)
[12:29] <Seveas> if you don't want bash, use zsh. csh/tcsh are bad
[12:30] <Fingolfinn> but it says when i opened terminal, tcsh: /sw/bin/init.csh: No such file or directory.
[12:30] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: if you open your gnome terminal prefs, you can  choose which shell to use (i like bash)
[12:30] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i don't have any gnome terminal prefs that i'm aware of
[12:30] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: you have had fink installed b4. and i believe you are currently in OSX
[12:30] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i did, on a previous system
[12:31] <Nuckin_Futs> my other pc has xp, and i have a network between them, i am using the samba server, how can i make it that i can acces files on this pc with my other one
[12:31] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: no wonder my suggestions arent working, you are on OSX
[12:31] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: shit.
[12:31] <Akbar> Nuckin_Futs configurate your samba shares in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:31] <Nuckin_Futs> Akbar: ill give it a try
[12:31] <Akbar> or through your desktop gui app :P
[12:31] <drudge> why would iwconfig wlan0 essid "96WarrenAPT5" not change the essid from any/off
[12:32] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: thought you asked for "mac head ubuntu nerds", not "mac head mac nerds"
[12:32] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: lol fuck
[12:32] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: join ##apple for apple help
[12:32] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i just i'll just have to reinstall fink then :D
[12:32] <Fingolfinn> *guess
[12:33] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: disregard everything i told you except the ext2fs site (all my inst were for ubuntu on apple hardware)
[12:33] <Fingolfinn> oh shit
[12:33] <Fingolfinn> i might be able to do this in x-11
[12:33] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: doubtful, as the underneath OS is darwin, not linux
[12:34] <Fingolfinn> true
[12:34] <s_ean> stevas, that was just cold.
[12:34] <s_ean> but tis water under the bridge... we dont need problems here.
[12:34] <EasterSunshine> if X becomes unresponsive, then the ctrl+alt+f1 shell still will work, right?
[12:35] <Seveas> s_ean, ban avoiding is highly frowned upon...
[12:35] <IceDC571> any other shell should work
[12:35] <s_ean> meh, dont ban somone who inputs to the community then?
[12:35] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: it should, yes
[12:35] <arik> Seveas, i cant make it work. im a linux beginner
[12:35] <Seveas> then don't call people nazi
[12:35] <drudge> Can someone please help me with my wifi setup on ubuntu?
[12:35] <EasterSunshine> Xenguy: and if that shell becomes unresponsive?
[12:36] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine:  Alt-Ctrl-F2 etc.
[12:36] <Nuckin_Futs> Akbar: what exactly should i look for: when i want to access files on this pc with my other one it asked for a user name and password: i put my user name for this pc and pass and it doesnt log in
[12:36] <EasterSunshine> Xenguy: ...i have a bunch of shells lined up for me on my function keys?
[12:36] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: F1 to F6 normally
[12:37] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: X starts on F7 by default
[12:37] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: F1 to F6 are sometimes called 'consoles'
[12:38] <P4RR0T> How can I mount my Windows XP partitions (using the Live CD) to be able to access them while I'm not root?
[12:38] <EasterSunshine> Xenguy: can you refer me to a guide on x shortcuts?
[12:38] <nate_> Can anybody try this? http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[12:38] <EasterSunshine> P4RR0T: sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever /mount/point -t ntfs -o ro,umask=022
[12:38] <Seveas> P4RR0T: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[12:38] <Seveas> nate_, ubuntuguide is bad
[12:38] <nate_> I have edited the Sources and I'm trying to see if maybe the server is down.
[12:38] <EasterSunshine> P4RR0T: listen to seveas, his solution is better and easier
[12:38] <Xenguy> Seveas: really?
[12:39] <tristanmike> Is it possible to have an animated background/wallpaper?
[12:39] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: not offhand - are you just wanting to jump back and forth between console and X ?
[12:39] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: ubotu refers me to ubuntuguide sometimes, i think on installing java
[12:39] <nate_> I've neever had this problem before and have done the same thing at least 3 times.
[12:39] <Xenguy> Seveas: why do you say "ubuntuguide is bad" ?
[12:40] <EasterSunshine> Xenguy: i was playing around with some shortcuts, they seem to be able do some neat stuff, i just wanted to learn more for future reference
[12:40] <P4RR0T> But I'm using the Live CD, it would be easier for me to type in the command, rather than download the file each time...thanks a lot for the quick adivce
[12:40] <Seveas> !tell Xenguy about ubuntuguide
[12:40] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: I might have something bookmarked, sec...
[12:40] <nate_> Will somebody else try doing it so I can see if the server is down or something?
[12:41] <Xenguy> Seveas: OK, thanks for that - I'll have a closer look, but my first impression was that the Guide was pretty impressive
[12:41] <nalioth> Xenguy: it is: but not for newbies
[12:42] <nate_> Will someone please help?
[12:42] <nate_> And why is the guide bad?
[12:43] <ManiacMac> Anyone here been able to get the ATI 8.14.x driver to work on Hoary?
[12:43] <WhiteRabbit> if someone doesn't understand what effects some packages may have on the system it could lead to harmful effects
[12:43] <nate_> Someone PLEASE try this?
[12:43] <BTJustice> Can I enable root to log into KDE Kubuntu?
[12:43] <WhiteRabbit> & then they might try to turn on the guide & blame it for there mistakes
[12:44] <nate_>  http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[12:44] <Seveas> nate_, it does not work
[12:44] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is bad
[12:44] <ManiacMac> BTJustice: yes, sudo passwd
[12:44] <Seveas> and hoary-estras repositories are flaky
[12:44] <Seveas> grab a java deb from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:44] <IceDC571> i forgot about ubuntuguide... who needs it when you have the forums with howtos and a lot of support
[12:44] <IceDC571> and this channel
[12:44] <BTJustice> ManiacMac: It tried that, but it still won;t allow me to log in as root at the KDE login screen.
[12:44] <Seveas> ...and the wiki
[12:44] <nate_> THANK YOU!
[12:45] <richardk> hey i need some help on something
[12:45] <butcherbird> BTJustice: sudo su then passwd ::ducks::
[12:45] <ManiacMac> i think its an option in KDM then
[12:45] <kikdijon> re
[12:45] <richardk> i have a .bz2 file i want to open in the terminal
[12:45] <ManiacMac> check in there
[12:45] <nate_> Which one should I get?
[12:45] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: are you a developer for ubuntu?
[12:45] <ManiacMac> sorry, I'm a gnome guy ;)
[12:45] <richardk> can you tell me how to do it
[12:45] <kikdijon> oups, no french chanel!
[12:45] <kikdijon> sorry, bye
[12:45] <richardk> and i want to extract the file
[12:45] <pcharky> Hell, E17 & composite rock! :)  check the screenshots: http://www.klaroon.nl
[12:46] <EasterSunshine> kikdijon: #ubuntu-fr ?
[12:46] <kikdijon> yes, i've just made a mistake while typing
[12:47] <EasterSunshine> richardk: the tar command will do it after you pass some options to it
[12:47] <kikdijon> good night everybody
[12:47] <richardk> ok what options do i have to pass
[12:47] <chavo> pcharky, it's not composite. E does it's own shadows.
[12:47] <NoUse> richardk tar -jvxf file.tar.bz2
[12:47] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, no
[12:47] <Seveas> (re: developer)
[12:47] <pcharky> chavo: transparency is....
[12:48] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: hmm...sry i think i asked this before...you just know soo much its crazy
[12:48] <chavo> aha, I haven't looked at the shots yet
[12:48] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: this URL pertains to debian, but most of it should be useful; I'm not sure if it is exactly what you were looking for, but FWIW :-) http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
[12:48] <nate_> can you send why ubuntu guide is bad?
[12:48] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[12:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[12:48] <IceDC571> it is from one person and there is no support
[12:48] <Seveas> ^-- nate_
[12:48] <pcharky> chavo: plaase do :)
[12:48] <Seveas> and the instructions are crap
[12:48] <ManiacMac> Well, anyway, I went through several howtos trying to figure out how to get fglrx working, no avail on any of them.  I get a "(EE) fglrx(0): incompatable kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work" at startup of X
[12:49] <nate_> thanks
[12:49] <Xenguy> nate_: Seveas is arguing that the guide can be confusing to newbies (IIUC)
[12:49] <chavo> pcharky, I am now. I've got e-17 installed here also :)
[12:49] <nate_> o_O
[12:49] <tristanmike> When I first saw ubuntuguide I almost cried
[12:49] <Seveas> Xenguy, it cannot be because it explains nothing :)
[12:49] <CookedGryphon> I have beep-media-player and w32codecs, and i ahve rhythmbox, still neither of them play wma files, mplayer does, tho it doesn't ahve a proper playlist option, help!
[12:49] <Seveas> it's just a stupid list of stupid instrictions
[12:49] <chavo> mmy connection is slow right now. verizon evdo and don't want to reconnect at the moment
[12:49] <Xenguy> Seveas: OK, I'm going to take a second look now :-)
[12:49] <tristanmike> I was like "Well, Linux, not yet"
[12:49] <nate_> it works for me =\
[12:50] <tristanmike> But have since changed my tune about Linux tho =)
[12:50] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, you need a separate plugin for wma in beep
[12:50] <Seveas> thythmbox cannot play wma
[12:50] <Seveas> totem can if you use the totem-xine backend
[12:50] <CookedGryphon> lol then y did everyone tell me to dl w32cod3ecs, what DO they work in?
[12:51] <Seveas> mplayer and totem-xine :)
[12:51] <IceDC571> Seveas is right
[12:51] <IceDC571> anything that has a xine backend it'll work in too
[12:51] <CookedGryphon> ah rite, what do i need for beep to play wmas then,. i'm fed up with trying to get mplayer to work lol
[12:52] <Seveas> sec..
[12:52] <blumenhalter> mieder
[12:52] <cafuego> Seveas: fanks
[12:52] <Seveas> s/is/iss/
[12:52] <cafuego> that's box #4 :-)
[12:52] <Seveas> caught a cold?
[12:53] <cafuego> cold + sinus infection
[12:53] <tristanmike> boo
[12:53] <Seveas> eek
[12:55] <michele> hmm why does my num-lock led doesn't work when in X? in console it is fine. (this is a thinkpad)
[12:55] <richardk> ok i have another question
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, any ideas on wma in beep?
[12:55] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, working on it
[12:55] <Seveas> are you on x86?
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> thanks
[12:55] <richardk> im trying to use dd on a .img file
[12:55] <CookedGryphon> yeah i am
[12:56] <richardk> and i need to know how to do that
[12:56] <michele> in place of the led I hear high and low-pitched beeps when num-lock is activated/deactivate
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> also, anybody got any tips on the best type of laptop to get to be compatible with linux?
[12:56] <SweetDreams> guys ive done everything that's on ubuntuguide.ord "Q: How to configure sound to work properly in GNOME?" and still dont hear any sounds, anyone can please help me?
[12:56] <SweetDreams> org that is
[12:56] <richardk> the file is tiger-x86-flat.img
[12:56] <Seveas> SweetDreams, that part of ubuntuguide is on crack
[12:56] <Seveas> even more than the rest...
[12:56] <EasterSunshine> SweetDreams: do not use ubuntuguide is does not work
[12:56] <Seveas> undo all you did
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> cos i'm getting a laptop to go away to uni, what kinda specs do u reckon to run ubuntu including near future updates comfortably?
[12:57] <mihai> does ubuntu 5.04 install play divx files out of the box ?
[12:57] <cafuego> Sounds like an osx86 issue
[12:57] <Seveas> and read wiki.ubuntu.com/DebugingSoundProblems
[12:57] <cafuego> mihai: no
[12:57] <mihai> cafuego: how gay is that, sigh
[12:57] <SweetDreams> thank u man
[12:57] <michele> CookedGryphon: most thinkpads work fine. the only problem you'd have is with the newest ati cards wich won't get HW acceleration
[12:57] <EasterSunshine> mihai: but there is a codec for divx somewhere in the repos
[12:57] <cafuego> mihai: I don't know, my machine has never had sex
[12:57] <debiz> CookedGryphon: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[12:57] <michele> CookedGryphon: I have a T52 and it's fine. My gf has a T42 and it's perfect
[12:58] <butcherbird> mihai: just install vlc
[12:58] <Xenguy> Seveas: hrm, IMHO it is reasonable to warn newbies that Ubuntuguide is not oriented towards total newbies, but I don't think it makes sense to warn everyone off the guide entirely.  There are some nice tips and tricks in there that can be useful to many people.  YMMV  :-)
[12:58] <CookedGryphon> thanks
[12:58] <Seveas> Xenguy, the mileage varies too much for the thing to be useful
[12:59] <Nuckin_Futs> how do i take out the user name and password needed by other pc to access my pc?
[12:59] <P8ntKid> What IRC clients do you all use?
[12:59] <Xenguy> Seveas: I think the statement "Ubuntuguide is bad" is far too extreme.  Again, just my humble opinion.
[01:00] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, access in what way?
[01:00] <EasterSunshine> whoa...you can run two or more x servers simultaneousy?
[01:00] <SweetDreams> seveas can u plz give me again the wiki ubuntu site coz it tells me it doesnt exist
[01:00] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: irssi-text here
[01:00] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: of course
[01:00] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:00] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: with Xnet you can run one IN another one, too.
[01:00] <cafuego> Xnest even
[01:00] <Seveas> SoundProblemsHoary is also a nice tips'n'tricks  page
[01:00] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: shared files
[01:00] <SweetDreams> both with and without www it tells me it doesnt exist :/
[01:00] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, samba?
[01:00] <P8ntKid> Xenguy, Can i PM you?
[01:00] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: yes
[01:00] <EasterSunshine> cafuego: and alt+f7 and up swtich the x server?
[01:00] <Seveas> set access to shared
[01:01] <Xenguy> P8ntKid: if it is necessary
[01:01] <Nuckin_Futs> seveas: how
[01:01] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: That depends on where you've got them displaying to, but normally: yes.
[01:01] <Seveas> in /etc/samba/smbd.conf
[01:01] <tristanmike> debiz, awsome laptop site, thanx
[01:01] <Nuckin_Futs> ok....
[01:01] <BollocksMacenzie> How does the Keyboard Shortcuts list work... Can I add 1 for the Applications drop-down?
[01:01] <EasterSunshine> cafuego: before i try this, would you know if i can login to my user in both kde and gnome simulatneously and what dangers it encompasses?
[01:02] <DekaPink> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1564 This happens when mplayer finishes playing a file.
[01:02] <Seveas> BollocksMacenzie, no, but you can set custom commands and hotkeys in gconf-editor
[01:02] <Seveas> look for the gconf keys  apps/metacity/*
[01:02] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: Should be fne; it might whine about files arleady existing, though
[01:03] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, still here?
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> Do i need to set up any kind of antivirus with linux? cos i#'ve seen em about, av programs for linux, but no distros come with em as default that i've seen
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> yeah i am
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> waiting patiently
[01:03] <Agrajag> most av programs for linux scan for viruses on windows machiens
[01:03] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Normally AV on Linux is sued to scan emails that will be retrived by windows clients.
[01:03] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: You won't need AV for Linux itself.
[01:03] <CookedGryphon> cool
[01:04] <CookedGryphon> thanks, it jstu confused me cos i thought, linux no viruses, so y would there be antiviruses
[01:04] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: this part?        "security = user" is always a good idea. This will require a Unix account
[01:04] <Nuckin_Futs> # in this server for every user accessing the server. See
[01:04] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: linux has AV available for those of us who want to protect our windows using brethren
[01:04] <Seveas> yup Nuckin_Futs
[01:05] <Nuckin_Futs> security = shared?
[01:05] <Seveas> correct
[01:05] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, almost there...
[01:05] <Nuckin_Futs> thx
[01:05] <CookedGryphon> nalioth, surely we want to leave them to fend for themselves, and realise the error of their ways
[01:05] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, thanks, its appreciated when you get tehre.. r u writing it ureself or what? lol
[01:05] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: I'd love to, but they pay the rent...
[01:05] <nalioth> CookedGryphon: some of our mothers won't use linux
[01:05] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, I'm making a simple checkinstall package for it
[01:06] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, you are a god!
[01:06] <CookedGryphon> in ubuntu circles at least
[01:06] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: it still asks for a user name and password?
[01:07] <orlok> hey
[01:07] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, restart samba...
[01:07] <orlok> i want to move my ubuntu install to a new PC
[01:07] <Nuckin_Futs> ok
[01:07] <orlok> as the new kernel supports the sata controller on it
[01:08] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, look at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl for the deb
[01:08] <Seveas> please let me know whether it works (I did not test it yet)
[01:08] <CookedGryphon> okay, thanks
[01:09] <CookedGryphon> okay
[01:09] <siucdude> hello'
[01:10] <siucdude> i just have a simple question but can't figure out how to fix this
[01:10] <Seveas> ask away :)
[01:10] <siucdude> my ibm usb mouse the wheel does not work
[01:10] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: what was the terminal command for restarting samba again ( i forgot)
[01:10] <EasterSunshine> what is the command for locating a file across my / filesystem?
[01:11] <Seveas> slocate
[01:11] <EasterSunshine> thx
[01:11] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[01:11] <nalioth> thought it was just plain "locate"
[01:11] <EasterSunshine> yeah, i don't have slocate installed
[01:11] <Seveas> nalioth, in ubuntu locate is a symlink to slocate
[01:11] <Chris_Lappy> whats the ubuntuguide link to the app for automounting ntfs and fat32 partitions?
[01:11] <Seveas> that's not an ubuntuguide link
[01:11] <nalioth> Chris_Lappy: you dont want that
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> yes, i do
[01:12] <nalioth> Chris_Lappy: get the one from Seveas
[01:12] <Seveas> the automounting thing is written by me
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> ive used it before its quite nice
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> oh
[01:12] <Seveas> not by crappy ubuntuguide :)
[01:12] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: uh, it stil askes for login
[01:12] <searcher`> has anyone managed to get the microphone working in skype, under ubuntu?
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> got a weblink?
[01:12] <Seveas> Chris_Lappy: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[01:12] <nalioth> Seveas: credit where it's due, ahem
[01:12] <nalioth> heh heh
[01:12] <searcher`> i can listen to calls, the mic is working over the speakerset
[01:12] <EasterSunshine> well locate is a whole lot faster that ls -la | grep whatever
[01:12] <Chris_Lappy> oh ubuntulinux.nl is where you pointed me before
[01:12] <searcher`> but nothing gets sent
[01:13] <EasterSunshine> ls -laR / | grep whatever even
[01:13] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: 'locate' does not have an up-to-date database though.
[01:13] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: find . -name "*string*" would be more traditional than an 'ls'
[01:14] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, you might need to add some 'guest ok = yes' statements to your shares
[01:14] <zukalk> does anyone experience Zinf random crashes?
[01:14] <Hadriel> hey, anyone can help me abou t how i can compile the linux kernel?
[01:14] <Seveas> Hadriel: You can find compilation instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[01:15] <Hadriel> thanks
[01:15] <SweetDreams> is it so difficult to hear sound? gosh
[01:15] <phantom> hi people
[01:15] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: THogh you'll be mightily impressed when yuou find beagle
[01:16] <phantom> how do I switch workspaces with with the keyboard?
[01:16] <phantom> gnome
[01:16] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: yea there was this like guesk ok = yes but it was commented, i uncomented and restarted samba but still askes for login
[01:17] <Seveas> phantom, look for your current hotkeys in system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[01:17] <cafuego> du -sh ~/.beagle/Log -> 328M
[01:17] <cafuego> ack
[01:17] <kevor> lsdkf
[01:17] <Seveas> Nuckin_Futs, then read the docs, i wouldn't know more than this (I tend to keep things secure...)
[01:17] <Velox> Sound is just like any other device, but they advance rather quickly.
[01:17] <NoUse> phantom it defaults to Ctrl+Alt and the arrows
[01:17] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, Thanks dude! it works, i say again u are a god!
[01:17] <kevor> or.. they've protected it :P
[01:17] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, thanks for the report :)
[01:17] <Nuckin_Futs> Seveas: ok, thx for ur time
[01:17] <Stormx> I have a package that isn't available as a deb. Can I use a command to make it into a deb? Compiling these things can be a hassle....
[01:18] <phantom> cool thanks
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> lol one more question though, is there any way to add files recursively or do i have to go into each folder and select all .. etc.?
[01:18] <amonkey> hey, i need some help with some sql. anyone know a good channel for that?
[01:18] <Seveas> Stormx, what do you have? sources/rpm/tgz?
[01:18] <Hadriel> another doubt: im trying to run amarok on gnome, but it says before opening that the device sound is busy. how can i solve it?
[01:18] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, wouldn't know that :)
[01:18] <Stormx> Seveas:tgz
[01:18] <phantom> And can someone please recomend an MP3 player? Also need a program to convert my CDs to mp3
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> ah well, thanks neway
[01:18] <Seveas> Stormx, alien may work
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> but u know everything!
[01:19] <Stormx> Seveas: How do I use alien?
[01:19] <CookedGryphon> phantom, beep-media-player's quite nice
[01:19] <nate_> Anybody know why I can't get sound through Windows Media Player through CrossOver Office?
[01:19] <zukalk> !alien
[01:19] <ubotu> I guess alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:19] <Seveas> alien blabla.tgz
[01:19] <ero-senni> dam i hate it that i can't play doom3 on this system
[01:19] <ero-senni> dam ati!
[01:19] <Stormx> Seveas: Thanks, I'll give it a go.
[01:19] <ero-senni> dam it to hell
[01:19] <phantom> CookedGryphon can I just get it off the repository????
[01:19] <ero-senni> next time im buying a nvidia
[01:19] <Seveas> phantom, b-m-p is in universe
[01:20] <nate_> Or would anybody know of a way to make the system think another player is Windows Media player so when I go to see a music video that requires Windows Media player, I can view it through another player/
[01:20] <nate_> *?
[01:20] <CookedGryphon>  phantom yep
[01:20] <Seveas> so bye all, cee you tomorrow :)
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, where ru ? what timezone?
[01:20] <phantom> Thanks.. so I use the normal get install command to get it? How do I see what's available in the universe????
[01:21] <benjamin1254> how do u install macromedia flash player for firefox... 4 that matter even how do u get it so it auto installs?
[01:21] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, it's 1:21 am (NL)
[01:21] <cafuego> benjamin1254: x86?
[01:21] <benjamin1254> yes
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> ah, i'm only an hour behind u
[01:21] <Stormx> Seveas: "synce-rra_0.9.1-2_all.deb generated" but where? I ran a search and its not there......
[01:21] <ero-senni> !tellabout flash
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> and I'm tired
[01:21] <NoUse> !flash
[01:21] <ubotu> flash is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:21] <ero-senni> bastards
[01:21] <ero-senni> :-P
[01:22] <cafuego> benjamin1254: install flashplayer-mozilla
[01:22] <richardk> how do turn a .img file into a .iso file
[01:22] <richardk> can you do that
[01:22] <ero-senni> yes richardk
[01:22] <richardk> ok how do you do it
[01:22] <nate_> Does anybody know of a way to play music videos with a linux media player instead of Windows media player?
[01:22] <ero-senni> let me find that program again
[01:22] <ero-senni> hold on
[01:22] <richardk> other than renaming the file
[01:22] <nalioth> Stormx: you may have to update your locate database
[01:22] <richardk> i need a legit .iso file
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> phantom u need to edit you sources.list file
[01:22] <NoUse> nate_ mplayer can probably do it
[01:23] <dalamar> img2iso wont work if its a dvd image, I just went through that earlier today
[01:23] <Stormx> nalioth: Ah ha. How?
[01:23] <dalamar> richardk, to burn or?
[01:23] <nalioth> Stormx: at a terminal prompt, type "sudo updatedb"
[01:23] <ero-senni> i think is it KISO?
[01:23] <richardk> yeah
[01:23] <richardk> to a cd
[01:23] <phantom> CookedGryphon, I think I've done that. to get more sources right?
[01:23] <Akwa|user> um hey
[01:23] <richardk> its 550 mb
[01:23] <ero-senni> richardk, kiso
[01:23] <benjamin1254> what is the url for the newbie script?
[01:24] <dalamar> richardk, k3b will burn a .img as well
[01:24] <ero-senni> its on the forum
[01:24] <Fackamato> hoi, is it "safe" to use the next ubuntu now? the one after hoary (can't figure out the name right now)
[01:24] <phantom> CookedGryphon, so is there anywhere to show us a list of apps available and commands to install them? Apart from the ubuntuguide?????
[01:24] <CookedGryphon> yeah phantom
[01:24] <Fackamato> I mean, is all the C transition done etc?
[01:24] <Stormx> nalioth: Alright, its doing it now.
[01:24] <dooglus_> hi everyone.  I'm looking for a bittorrent client to replace azeurus.  something with a small memory footprint would be good.
[01:24] <CookedGryphon> aptitude
[01:24] <CookedGryphon> or synaptic
[01:24] <Akwa|user> nalioth: I installed ex2 on my compute... it won't advance past the apple logo now
[01:24] <richardk> but can i boot it when i start my computer
[01:24] <dooglus_> azeurus is currently using 455Mb to download just 5 torrents...
[01:24] <cafuego> Xappe: No wireless support
[01:24] <dalamar> richardk, as long as its a bootable cd sure
[01:24] <nalioth> Xappe: which date is colony-3? i tried a 22aug05 daily on my imac and it killed the whole box
[01:24] <ero-senni> yea install k3b to burn the iso
[01:24] <NoUse> dooglus_ have you tried the standard client?
[01:24] <Stormx> dooglus_: I know the feeling.
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> but u should b able to install it by saying apt-get install beep-media-player
[01:25] <ero-senni> richardk, do sudo apt-get install k3b
[01:25] <ero-senni> then use k3b to burn the nrg
[01:25] <ero-senni> :-)
[01:25] <Xappe> cafuego: I have no wireless
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> oh or is it under bmp... on esec
[01:25] <dooglus_> NoUse: I'd like a client to remember the torrents between runs, to offer queueing, or at least multiple downloads at once.
[01:25] <Akwa|user> nalioth: I'm kinda up shit creek without a paddle now, this really sucks
[01:25] <cafuego> Xappe: That's easy then :-)
[01:25] <nalioth> Akwa|user: what is the hardware and OS version you are running?
[01:25] <Stormx> CookedGryphon: Synaptic is a good idea.
[01:25] <Akwa|user> oh sorry this is fingolfin
[01:25] <richardk> i have k3b
[01:25] <dooglus_> I only have 384Mb of RAM - and azeurus is using it all and more.
[01:25] <Xappe> nalioth: I don't really know...but i'm erasing everything anyway, so a failure is not a big issue to me
[01:25] <richardk> this is the file name
[01:26] <CookedGryphon> phantom, it is beep-media-player
[01:26] <dooglus_> it's really slowing everything else down to a crawl.
[01:26] <richardk> tiger-x86-flat.img
[01:26] <CookedGryphon> or run synaptic and search for beep
[01:26] <Stormx> yes
[01:26] <Stormx> do that
[01:26] <richardk> i need to know if i can turn this into a iso file
[01:26] <nalioth> Xappe: ok. my G5 imac was rendered useless by the daily disk, but as long as yours is running
[01:26] <richardk> i want to install this on my pc
[01:26] <ero-senni> i finally understood how to convert vcd to mpg under linux
[01:26] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: yeah, my computer's wasted now =(
[01:26] <richardk> so i need for it to be a iso file on disc
[01:26] <ero-senni> download vcdgear for linux
[01:26] <dalamar> richardk, in k3b, go under tools, burn cd image, then when you click to search for the iso make sure instead of just looking for iso9660 you select it took look for 'all files' and click on it, should burn fine
[01:27] <ero-senni> and :-)
[01:27] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: do you have ubuntu installed on it?
[01:27] <ero-senni> i didn't ti even exist
[01:27] <Xappe> nalioth: we'll se in a couple of minutes I guess :)
[01:27] <ero-senni> well vcdgera for linux that is
[01:27] <ero-senni> gear*
[01:27] <Fingolfinn> no lol, i can't do shit all, it freezes at startup
[01:27] <Crube> Hey I'm using KDE (Installed Kubuntu) and I was wondering if there's and easy to switch to GNOME. I can isntall Gnome andall but what's bothering me is that I see the programs from both KDE and GNOME in my programs list and it's annoying :D
[01:27] <phantom> CookedGryphon, So I enter: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player ?????
[01:27] <CookedGryphon> phantom, yes
[01:27] <Fingolfinn> i can't even view the kernel boot
[01:27] <phantom> Thanks mate
[01:27] <ero-senni> Crube, make a new login
[01:27] <Stormx> phantom: Yes, in terminal.
[01:27] <ero-senni> i mean like create a new user
[01:27] <CookedGryphon> np
[01:27] <ero-senni> and run it in gnome only
[01:27] <ero-senni> i would figure...?
[01:28] <Stormx> sudo updatedb is taking forever.......
[01:28] <pr1sm> Hi, I have a creative sound blaster mp3+, and it is recognized by ubuntu in the device manager, but ubuntu doesnt seem to be set to use it. There is a blue light on it that flashes when it is outputting a noise, however this does not flash, SO I know it isnt a silly mute problem, can anybody help me with this please
[01:28] <richardk> it says its not a usable image
[01:28] <phantom> is there a page apart from the Ubuntuguide.org with a litst of applications in the Universe????
[01:28] <richardk> what does that mean
[01:29] <Crube> ero-senni:  ok I'll try that :) Currently I'm using kde, but I use programs from gnome like Synaptic and Gaim couse I really hate the kynaptic and kopete
[01:29] <Rangitoto> I want to install Ubuntu on an HP computer which won't boot from its non-HP CD-ROM drive. Any suggestions?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> Crube: why not use gnome with some kde programs then?
[01:29] <arik> hello: can u give me again the website for the screen resolution configuration
[01:29] <Xappe> nalioth: and by useless you mean, totally useless or you're still able to reinstall hoary for example?
[01:29] <nalioth> Rangitoto: boot floppy
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[01:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:29] <Crube> HrdwrBoB:  that was what I was planning on doing
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> Crube: cool
[01:29] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: sacrilige!
[01:30] <nalioth> Xappe: as in the cd wouldnt boot, and when i started OSX, it kernel panicked upon reaching the desktop trying to read the install cd (no way to eject it easily)
[01:30] <cafuego> That's like using DOS programs under WIndows!
[01:30] <arik> thsaks
[01:30] <nalioth> Xappe: and i can't get ANY linux to install on my G5 imac
[01:30] <cafuego> nalioth: hold down teh eject key (or F12) when hitting reset will eject teh cd.
[01:30] <Rangitoto> nalioth: I thought of creating a boot floppy using another computer but I was unable to find out how to create one.
[01:30] <Xappe> nalioth: ooops
[01:31] <Fackamato> OK.
[01:31] <Fackamato> what's the next ubuntu version called?
[01:31] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i really appreciate your help, i think i might have some success, but now my computer's totally fucked
[01:31] <Fackamato> and can I run it farily stable at the moment?
[01:31] <phantom> Thanks People.. Your help was great.
[01:31] <cafuego> nalioth: The Hoary PPC LiveCD got as far as scanning for disks here.
[01:31] <dooglus_> Fackamato: breezy
[01:31] <Fackamato> ok.
[01:31] <Fackamato> is breezy usable now?
[01:31] <Fackamato> is all the C transition gone?
[01:31] <Fackamato> to gcc 4 etc.
[01:31] <dooglus_> Fackamato: I've been using it without many problems for 3 months or so
[01:31] <nalioth> cafuego: i tried that, and holding the mouse button, and all that. it didnt eject. had to call apple (new G5 imacs don't have the eject hole for the optical drives)
[01:31] <Fackamato> dooglus_ great, thanks for the answer
[01:32] <dooglus_> Fackamato: there are still lots of updates.
[01:32] <pr1sm>  Hi, I have a creative sound blaster mp3+, and it is recognized by ubuntu in the device manager, but ubuntu doesnt seem to be set to use it. There is a blue light on it that flashes when it is outputting a noise, however this does not flash, SO I know it isnt a silly mute problem, can anybody help me with this pleas
[01:32] <cafuego> nalioth: *nod* Odd though, worked OK when mum-in-law's G5 hung
[01:32] <siucdude> can anyone help please
[01:32] <dooglus_> I updated today and it downloaded over 300Mb of stuff in 300 packages.
[01:32] <Fackamato> dooglus_ hehe okay
[01:32] <nalioth> Rangitoto: wiki.ubuntu.com will help you with that. see user documentation
[01:32] <Stormx> This sucks...
[01:32] <cafuego> nalioth: swap that G5 for four mac minis and run Linux on them (and cluster them :-)
[01:32] <nalioth> cafuego: my stuff is always problematic
[01:33] <siucdude> i have googled way to long for this
[01:33] <Stormx> alien says it is generating a .deb package, when it certainly isn't.
[01:33] <Xappe> nalioth: well, I have an ibook g3, maybe i'll have better luck...colony-3 is august 17
[01:33] <cafuego> Xappe: clamshell? they *will* run hoary just fine, should breezy fail.
[01:33] <nalioth> Xappe: you got it goin on, then. Everything about the G3s is known to devs
[01:34] <Xappe> cafuego: I know...i've been running hoary on it since april or something like that
[01:34] <dooglus_> siucdude: what's the problem?
[01:34] <Xappe> cafuego: not clamshell, a white g3 700
[01:34] <Stormx> Anyone got any ideas?
[01:35] <Stormx> I'll go put my output in pastebin...
[01:35] <siucdude> i had a xorg prblem this morning fixed it and now i updated the rest of the system and the only thing that is buging me is my mouse wheel is not on
[01:35] <cafuego> Xappe: Oh, I didn't realise they made those in G3 flavour :-)
[01:35] <siucdude> thank you dooglus for offer to help
[01:35] <Xappe> cafuego: :)
[01:36] <dooglus_> siucdude: I've not seen my mouse for over 5 weeks now.  I've no idea if the wheel is working in breezy or not...
[01:36] <cafuego> I thought they'd stopped after the bronze powerbooks and then moved everything to G4s
[01:36] <SolidRaven> uh a question, did i fuck up my kernel after two failed modprobes?
[01:36] <siucdude> dooglus: thanks anyways
[01:36] <Stormx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344533 - help?
[01:37] <SolidRaven> if i do modprobe ndiswrapper the comp just freezes :S
[01:37] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Well, you _are_ laoding windows drivers
[01:37] <SolidRaven> yes
[01:37] <SolidRaven> i know
[01:37] <nalioth> cafuego: yes, they do all the way to 800mhz
[01:37] <SolidRaven> because of the fact that i have crappy stuff from topcom
[01:38] <cafuego> SolidRaven: crappy stuff + crappy driver +` crash
[01:38] <cafuego> seems fair
[01:38] <SolidRaven> cafuego > not realy, i actualy think i fucked up the kernel
[01:38] <SolidRaven> two freezes
[01:38] <Stormx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344533 - help? It says it has generated a package, but its not there........
[01:38] <SolidRaven> i might try without loading it into the kernel
[01:38] <wae2go> hey all did the backports url change again?
[01:39] <cafuego> SolidRaven: by loading a driver? Not likely unless the system died when writing to the kernel file.
[01:39] <wae2go> !backports
[01:39] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[01:39] <cafuego> (and it shouldn't be doing that after booting)
[01:39] <SolidRaven> cafuego > the system freezed and i needed to reset it
[01:39] <wae2go> !extras
[01:39] <ubotu> somebody said extras was For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:39] <SolidRaven> ubuntu loads perfectly tough :p
[01:39] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Then the kernel is fine and the windoze driver is the problem.
[01:40] <cafuego> SolidRaven: It's probably badly written and is making the kernel gpf when it probes hardware. it happens.... shitty but true.
[01:40] <NanoBCN> hi there
[01:40] <CookedGryphon> how many different keywaords does ubotu respond to?
[01:40] <cafuego> !usage
[01:40] <ubotu> You can find out how to operate ubotu on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:40] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Got a pcmcia slot?
[01:41] <CookedGryphon> lol
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: if it's a laptop, the card is likely minipci
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> get a replacement minipci card, no need for a bulky pcmcia card
[01:41] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: yes, but that's not my question :-)
[01:41] <cafuego> Well, true.
[01:42] <mcphail> SolidRaven: I had a similar problem with ndiswrapper. Everything worked when I tried an alternantive windows driver for my card.
[01:44] <IceDC571> i hate websites running on asp or windows
[01:44] <IceDC571> they always have maintenance
[01:45] <morbidi> IceDC571: why ?
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> heh asp
[01:45] <morbidi> IceDC571: ?
[01:45] <IceDC571> i see nothing but errors
[01:45] <IceDC571> or.. runtime error
[01:45] <HrdwrBoB> IceDC571: it's ok, they make people (also microsoft) a buttload of cash
[01:45] <morbidi> IceDC571: bad programers
[01:45] <wae2go> well I'll check backlater cuz Icant find java anywhere
[01:45] <IceDC571> anyone know of myspace?
[01:45] <morbidi> nope
[01:45] <zaphands> Hello. I want to setup 2 network cards. One for the internet and one for local network. Both cards are working saperately but not together. What can I do?
[01:45] <SolidRaven> no cafuego
[01:45] <SolidRaven> i don't have pcmcia slot
[01:45] <benkong2> is there a way i can install ndiswrapper in a new kernel while running another? I upgraded kernel but ubuntu crashes because ndiswrapper gives a fatal error.
[01:45] <morbidi> zaphands: pci ?
[01:45] <SolidRaven> this is a crappy pc chips motherboard
[01:46] <morbidi> ethernet ?
[01:46] <cafuego> SolidRaven: As HrdwrBoB suggested, see if you can get your hands on a decent minipci card
[01:46] <zaphands> morbidi: 1 pci 2 on-board.
[01:46] <zaphands> morbidi: the cards are detected and use different interrupts.
[01:46] <BollocksMacenzie> Seveas: The Application menu has it's own shortcut in the end... It's called "Show the Panel Menu" instead... I.e. Alt+F1
[01:46] <SolidRaven> cafuego > i can't realy aford that now because i am already upgrading my pc
[01:46] <morbidi> zaphands: sudo ifconfig -a
[01:46] <SolidRaven> :(
[01:47] <HrdwrBoB> SolidRaven: or,  if you have a friend with a wifi card, swap
[01:47] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Then upgrading it with decent hardware might be a good idea
[01:47] <SolidRaven> cafuego > i am upgrading the motherboard + cpu
[01:47] <SolidRaven> its like a crapy celeron 1.1ghz
[01:47] <SolidRaven> do you get why i upgrade :p
[01:47] <zaphands> morbidi: I have IPs for both. but the internet is working from the same device as the local area network.
[01:47] <morbidi> zaphands: ?
[01:47] <morbidi> what ?
[01:47] <cafuego> SolidRaven: Even cheap mobos these days come with half-decent (realtek) network
[01:47] <morbidi> zaphands: explain yourself
[01:47] <SolidRaven> its like a 6 year old mobo
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> zaphands: you need to be clearer about the network
[01:48] <cafuego> SolidRaven: My 6-y-old Dual p2 runs fine, no need to upgrade that.
[01:48] <zaphands> morbidi: I want to use eth0 for my cable modem (it uses DHCP) and eth1 for local area network.
[01:48] <morbidi> zaphands: sure
[01:48] <morbidi> use it
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: there's always a need :)
[01:48] <morbidi> dhcpcd eth0
[01:48] <morbidi> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2
[01:48] <Stormx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344533 - help? It says it has generated a package, but its not there........
[01:48] <wfry> can anyone help with getting GUI up on a gateway m250
[01:48] <morbidi> ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.2
[01:48] <HrdwrBoB> I'm decomissioning the dual p2 nameserver here - it's too old and I can't rely on the hardware
[01:48] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: True, but even then buying low-quality only means you'll be buying additional hardware for years to come
[01:49] <morbidi> done
[01:49] <HrdwrBoB> true
[01:49] <[EasterSunshine] > when i move my mouse over glxgears, it flickers, anyone else have that problem?
[01:49] <zaphands> morbidi: I can see both IPs of eth0 and eth1 on ifconfig.
[01:49] <SolidRaven> cafuego > for what i am doing this comp is not enough
[01:49] <SolidRaven> it takes ages to compile that game engine
[01:49] <Stormx> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344533 - help? It says it has generated a package, but its not there........
[01:49] <zaphands> morbidi: but the internet is used from eth1 instead of eth0.
[01:49] <morbidi> zaphands: sudo ifconfig -a | grep inet
[01:50] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: The only time mine has crashed was in 1998; when it turned out the rtl8139 driver and CONFIG_SMP and the aic788x driver were not friends (and scsi crapped out when using > 50% bandwidth)
[01:50] <brainz> all, Hi i'm a newbie,  i just installed ubuntu linux and the problem is i cant read and write into my fat32 , my fstab entry reads like this /dev/hda8       /data           vfat    defaults        0       0
[01:50] <brainz>  i tried to read the manual, searched in the forum but nothing helped
[01:50] <EasterSunshine> ns identify jhjhjhjh
[01:50] <kemik> Stormx:  dont think you can run alien on tarballs
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: ouch
[01:50] <morbidi> zaphands: what's the big deal ?
[01:50] <mcphail> zaphands: I don't understand these things, but would "man route" help?
[01:50] <kemik> Stormx:  untar the file first?
[01:50] <Stormx> kemik: Hmm, seveas said you could.
[01:50] <CookedGryphon> brainz, u need to set the permissions
[01:50] <Akbar> EasterSunshine not really
[01:50] <Stormx> kemik: Into a folder?
[01:51] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: it's been stable for nigh on 6 years since the addition of two e100s though
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: while I don't expect them to fail, my job consists of keeping things working, and in that vein, I think I'll ditch them :)
[01:51] <morbidi> mcphail: no
[01:51] <Stormx> kemik: tried.
[01:51] <brainz> CookedGryphon, how?
[01:51] <Akbar> but can xcompmgr work with fglrx?
[01:51] <morbidi> zaphands: do you need eth0 in dhcpcd mode ?
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> my server at home is a dual p3 933 with IDE linux raid5
[01:51] <kemik> Stormx:  . hmm yea looks like it's extracting it
[01:51] <zaphands>  I see my eth0 IP.
[01:51] <brainz> CookedGryphon, chmod? or groups?
[01:51] <morbidi> zaphands: I mean REALLY NEED
[01:51] <cafuego> You don't want to know what my server at home is <heh>
[01:51] <kemik> Stormx:  are you sure it's a .rpm inside the file and not sourcecodE?
[01:51] <CookedGryphon> u can do it in ftab
[01:52] <CookedGryphon> sry jsut a min, i will help u in a min, jsut my gf's saying summat improtant
[01:52] <Stormx> kemik: Its not an RPM.
[01:52] <SolidRaven> oh well going to try "sudo ifup wlan0" for once tomorow
[01:52] <SolidRaven> never know it might actualy work
[01:52] <zaphands> morbidi: yes I do.
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: so old or so overpowered?
[01:52] <Stormx> kemik: I'd imagine its source, then?
[01:52] <morbidi> zaphands: ok
[01:52] <zaphands> morbidi: the modem works that way.
[01:52] <brainz> CookedGryphon, can you be please more specific please, thanks
[01:52] <SolidRaven> going to bed
[01:52] <Stormx> kemik: Thing is, it says it is creating it.
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> I have a friend who's building a dual dualcore opteron for his own personal fileserver
[01:52] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: The drives in the P2 are a bit old, what's why i added fresh 80G ide drives in raid1 on their own controller and wiped the 4.3GB scsi drives; they now run / in raid1 too (with a hot spare)
[01:52] <SolidRaven> its like 2o' clock in the middle of the night :p
[01:52] <morbidi> zaphands: dhcpcd eth1
[01:52] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Even if it DOEs do poo, I'll have some advanced warning.
[01:52] <morbidi> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2
[01:52] <morbidi> same shit
[01:52] <zaphands> morbidi: command not found
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> yeah, always good to have warning
[01:53] <morbidi> zaphands: sudo
[01:53] <zaphands> morbidi: i'm root
[01:53] <morbidi>  /sbin/ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.2
[01:53] <morbidi> you're going to loose irc
[01:54] <zaphands> morbidi: does it have to be that IP?
[01:54] <morbidi> zaphands: no
[01:54] <cafuego> thr only problem is that slot1 cpus with the two fans each get REAL loud
[01:54] <morbidi> zaphands: make sure it is an internal
[01:54] <cafuego> so it's banished to the shed ;-)
[01:54] <zaphands> eth1 is connected to a router which uses dhcp...
[01:54] <zaphands> morbidi: eth1 is connected to a router which uses dhcp...
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> haha that sucks
[01:54] <Stormx> Gah
[01:54] <Stormx> this sucks
[01:54] <morbidi> zaphands: sure
[01:55] <HrdwrBoB> this is why I love my a64, then fan spends a lot of its time off
[01:55] <zaphands> morbidi: I'm still here :-)
[01:55] <kemik> Stormx:  didnt know alien could make .deb's out of sourcecode..
[01:55] <morbidi> I just don't understand why it is so important to have eth0 using dhcpcd and not eth1
[01:55] <Stormx> if anyone can tell me how to get my smartphone working in multisync I will be greatfull :)
[01:55] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Well, not as bad as you might think; the shed was wired up with cat5 two years ago, so its finally getting a run for its money <heh>
[01:55] <morbidi> zaphands: yep
[01:55] <Stormx> kemik: Meh, neither did I.
[01:55] <zaphands> morbidi: and I see eth1 up on ifconfig
[01:55] <Mats_> bonsoir
[01:55] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Yeah, I can't heard my amd64 over the sound of the P3 at all.
[01:56] <kemik> Stormx:  actually i dont think it can..
[01:56] <Stormx> I press "Sync" and multisync sits there and does absolutely nothing.
[01:56] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:56] <CookedGryphon> brainz,  sorry u'll ahve to ask sujm1 else, i ahve to rush off
[01:56] <morbidi> zaphands: ok, once and for all
[01:56] <kemik> Stormx:  utnar the tarball and compile it as usual instead?
[01:56] <wfry> can anyone help me? I have a gateway m250 and the GUI won't work right
[01:56] <morbidi> you need to change the eth1 and eth0 services
[01:56] <brainz> all, Hi i'm a newbie,  i just installed ubuntu linux and the problem is i cant read and write into my fat32 , my fstab entry reads like this /dev/hda8       /data           vfat    defaults        0       0
[01:56] <morbidi> you have 3 network cards
[01:56] <Stormx> kemik: C++ Compiler can't create executables o.O
[01:56] <morbidi> right ?
[01:56] <sorush20> guys my Keyboard has stopped working in evolution can some one help.. I've restarted the program but its no use.. I don't know what to do I don't want to keep having to log out and back in ?
[01:56] <zaphands> morbidi: 2.
[01:57] <kemik> Stormx:  sure it can
[01:57] <morbidi> zaphands: one onboard and one pci
[01:57] <morbidi> ok
[01:57] <reiki> I have a suspicion that Evolution is stripping the spamassassin headers off my email :)
[01:57] <zaphands> morbidi: yes
[01:57] <morbidi> ok...
[01:57] <Stormx> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[01:57] <Stormx> See `config.log' for more details.
[01:57] <morbidi> now
[01:57] <morbidi> which is which ?
[01:57] <zaphands> morbidi: eth0 is connected to modem (DHCP)
[01:57] <morbidi> eth1 currently is on dhcp ?
[01:57] <morbidi> ah
[01:57] <morbidi> ok
[01:57] <morbidi> sure
[01:57] <zaphands> morbidi: eth1 is connected to router (LAN, uses DHCP)
[01:57] <morbidi> now do
[01:57] <kemik> Stormx:  got "build-essential" installed?
[01:58] <Stormx> let me see.
[01:58] <morbidi> zaphands: which one ?
[01:58] <morbidi> ah
[01:58] <morbidi> ok
[01:58] <morbidi> ok ok
[01:58] <morbidi> zaphands: and you need to link eth0 to the router
[01:58] <morbidi> and eth1 to de modem ?
[01:59] <Crube> Ah the one thing in linux I'm good at... breaking things. :)
[01:59] <Stormx> kemik: Installing now.
[01:59] <kemik> Crube:  its a start ;P
[01:59] <zaphands> morbidi: If I reverse the wiring then the clock is not updated from the internet upon boot...
[02:00] <morbidi> zaphands: explain
[02:00] <zaphands> morbidi: I guess the init scripts use eth0 for internet access.. If I connect eth0 to LAN than upon boot time ubuntu does not update system's clock from the i-net.
[02:01] <cafuego> Stormx: Fot future reference: See `config.log' for more details.
[02:01] <cafuego> Stormx: That would tell you ehich command failed (and what app/lib is missing)
[02:01] <sean___> wow breezy update is taking aloong time :p
[02:01] <thrush> anyone know how to get a bunch of domain controllers to sync up in Active Directory heh
[02:01] <zaphands> morbidi: That's why i'm keeping eth0=modem, eth1=router.
[02:02] <cafuego> A filthy disease talking about windows...
[02:02] <thrush> ignore me im just frustrated
[02:02] <zaphands> morbidi: I also don't want to share the internet connection.
[02:02] <morbidi> zaphands: you need to bring down both devices
[02:02] <morbidi> reconnect the wiring
[02:02] <erhanerdem> slm
[02:02] <zaphands> morbidi: ok..
[02:02] <morbidi> bring up both devices
[02:02] <erhanerdem> burda turk varm?
[02:02] <brainz> all, Hi i'm a newbie,  please someone help i just installed ubuntu linux and the problem is i cant read and write into my fat32 , my fstab entry reads like this /dev/hda8       /data           vfat    defaults        0       0
[02:02] <cafuego> erhanerdem: English please, in here.
[02:03] <erhanerdem> hm ok
[02:03] <zaphands> morbidi: ok.. I'll do that. brb.
[02:03] <cafuego> brainz: Where is says defaults, you need to have the correct uid,gid,fmask,dmask entries.
[02:03] <erhanerdem>  have been skystar 2
[02:03] <morbidi> k
[02:03] <bur[n] er> brainz: u need some umask/uid/gid options in there
[02:03] <bur[n] er> brainz: man mount
[02:03] <erhanerdem> can not be watch dvbs tv
[02:04] <erhanerdem> what to do ?
[02:04] <bur[n] er> brainz: scroll to the vfat section of that man page
[02:04] <cafuego> brainz: To create it automagically, '/msg ubotu fat32' and fetch abnd run the script it tells you about.
[02:04] <EasterSunshine> what is this i am reading about optimizing my kernal? changing from 386 to 686? what effects does that have? speed boost?
[02:04] <brainz> bur[n] er: ok, will do
[02:04] <|CRS|> anyone help me? How can I eject an iPod from Ubuntu 5.04 ?! I tried eject /media/pod...  but teh ipod is still running!!
[02:04] <sean___> optimizintation for your architecture
[02:04] <Stormx> kemik: Alright. Now its complaining synce isn't installed. I've just downloaded it (as a non .deb) and now i've extracted it. Theres 5 or 6 tgzs inside......
[02:04] <cafuego> EasterSunshine: a little bit, yes.
[02:04] <zealot> hi there... first time linux user here... i just successfully installed ubuntu
[02:04] <bur[n] er> brainz: see cafuego's last comment :)  I didn't know there was a script
[02:04] <brainz> cafuego: I didnt get about that script
[02:04] <sean___> props to you zealot :)
[02:04] <zealot> this is so cool
[02:04] <kemik> Stormx:  dontknow what sunce is
[02:05] <sean___> welcome to linux :)
[02:05] <zealot> :)
[02:05] <cafuego> !tell brainz about fat32
[02:05] <kemik> Stormx:  but compile what you need, or apt-get it
[02:05] <thrush> |CRS|: you mean unmount?
[02:05] <|CRS|> no! it must be ejcted!!
[02:05] <Stormx> *umount
[02:05] <|CRS|> or it burns up!
[02:05] <cafuego> |CRS|: unmount it, then unplug it.
[02:05] <Stormx> |CRS|: If its pluged in it will be in your desktop. Right click > Eject?
[02:06] <zealot> i have a quick question though: my computer had 2 drives, c: a 20 MB drive, and d: a 80 GB drive.  installed ubuntu on C:.  ---- when I use the file explorer, I cannot find the d drive... does any of you know how I can find it?
[02:06] <GoClick> How hard is it to get an Ubuntu install to make /home on /dev/hdb1 ?
[02:06] <thrush> ok ok my bad :)
[02:06] <BSG75> any idea why gnome running so slow?
[02:06] <kemik> !ntfs
[02:06] <Stormx> zealot: Its not mounted.
[02:06] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[02:06] <cafuego> GoClick: trivial.
[02:06] <Rangitoto> I am trying to create a boot floppy. I entered "mke2fs/dev/fd0" and got the message "No such file or directory". I am in the "root@ubuntu:/home/warty" directory. Am I in the wrong place?
[02:06] <kemik> zealot:  read the link ubotu pasted
[02:06] <juanej> is there a .deb of last version of azureus? backports version doesnt work here
[02:06] <Stormx> what ubotu said.
[02:06] <BSG75> cpu load is 3.4% .. this is on a 2600+ amd with 1gb ram
[02:06] <GoClick> Basicaly we want to set up Ubuntu on our server here but we want /home to be on our RAID1 hard drive setup
[02:06] <Stormx> Have to go. Bye.
[02:06] <erhanerdem> please how use skystar2
[02:06] <zaphands_> morbidi: I'm back. but I had to `ifdown eth1` for that.
[02:07] <kemik> gl Stormx
[02:07] <kemik> *gone*
[02:07] <morbidi> zaphands_: why ?
[02:07] <zaphands_> morbidi: internet didn't work.
[02:07] <BSG75> anyone?
[02:07] <erhanerdem> ooof :(
[02:07] <cafuego> GoClick: In the installer, choose advanced partitioning, create the raid1 in the installer, format and mount it (or just format and mount, if it's hardware (promise/highpoint is NOT hardware, do not use))
[02:07] <morbidi> that's strange
[02:07] <morbidi> in fact
[02:07] <zealot> anyone?
[02:07] <morbidi> how do you bring up the two devices ?
[02:08] <BSG75> having issues with gnome running very very slow
[02:08] <GoClick> cafuego no it's a Dell PowerEdge
[02:08] <robotgeek> BSG75: use fluxbox or openbox or xfce
[02:08] <zaphands_> morbidi: i noticed that when i `route` it is stuck before writing the gateways...
[02:08] <|CRS|> Stormx: my ipod when it's plugged says "do not disconnect" , and for safety removal, that message should disappear! and with a umount it doesn't! an eject doesn't work....
[02:08] <BSG75> I tried them .. and they are flying .. so is kde
[02:08] <erhanerdem> please hepl me ? dont watch it skystar2
[02:08] <cafuego> GoClick: Then it ought to just pick up the array. In the aprtition setup, choose hdb1 and tell the system to mount it on /home
[02:08] <zaphands_> morbidi: `ifup -a`
[02:08] <kemik> !anyone
[02:08] <ubotu> kemik: Syntax error in line 1
[02:08] <kemik> !ubotu anyone is anyone = 90% of the first questions asked in this channel _annoyingly_ start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:08] <ubotu> kemik: what are you talking about?
[02:08] <kemik> ubotu anyone is anyone = 90% of the first questions asked in this channel _annoyingly_ start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:09] <morbidi> zaphands_: both ethx are in dhcp right ?
[02:09] <GoClick> cafuego cool, and if the raid controler isn't found?
[02:09] <zaphands_> morbidi: yes.
[02:09] <morbidi> that shouldn't be a problem
[02:09] <morbidi> if you do dhcpcd eth0
[02:09] <morbidi> dhcpcd eth1
[02:09] <robotgeek> !anyone
[02:09] <ubotu> No idea, robotgeek
[02:09] <cafuego> GoClick: Then you probably have a dell poweredge ;-)
[02:09] <kemik> ubotu anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:09] <GoClick> Is Ubuntu ever going to get an easy to use samba gui? swat not being that...
[02:09] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[02:09] <morbidi> it's the same thing
[02:09] <morbidi> but try it
[02:09] <morbidi> if it doesn't work
[02:09] <robotgeek> !anyone
[02:09] <morbidi> check the route
[02:09] <zealot> i can't find my d: drive, can anyone help me? i just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu into an empty c: drive. i have a full d: drive, but i can't see it
[02:09] <kemik> !tell kemik about anyone
[02:09] <cafuego> GoClick: Which controller (specifically) is it?
[02:10] <GoClick> cafuego I don't know let me look into that...
[02:10] <robotgeek> kemik: good job
[02:10] <GoClick> The server hasn't arived yet
[02:10] <zaphands_> morbidi: command not found: dhcpcd
[02:10] <|CRS|> Stormx: my ipod when it's plugged says "do not disconnect" , and for safety removal, that message should disappear! and with a umount it doesn't! an eject doesn't work......
[02:10] <zaphands_> morbidi: the route is OK with eth0. but only after `ifdown eth1`
[02:10] <cafuego> |CRS|: Well, just unplug it then.
[02:10] <kemik> robotgeek:  im not sure, some of the op's may be offended and think it's all "rude like #debian"
[02:10] <kdibble> I have maxlogins set to 4 in limits.conf, but any attempt at a 3rd login fails!? anybody?
[02:11] <kemik> robotgeek: but in debian they either a) ban you b) ignore you
[02:11] <kemik> ;)
[02:11] <robotgeek> kemik: what are the chances of anyone doing a !anyone
[02:11] <morbidi> zaphands_: ok
[02:11] <kemik> robotgeek:  i have no idea ;)
[02:11] <cafuego> robotgeek: Once it exists, quite often.
[02:11] <morbidi> the problem is in eth1 then :P
[02:11] <|CRS|> cafuego, NO! It can be that way!!!! in suse when I used to do that, my pod was formatted because of that!
[02:11] <morbidi> zaphands_: eth1 is now connect where ?
[02:12] <cafuego> |CRS|: Well, if you can't unmount it, can't eject it, can't just unplug it, you'll just have to leave it where it is.
[02:12] <robotgeek> damn...upgrading to breezy is taking a long long time
[02:12] <|CRS|> after unpluging it so many times, it doen't mounted anymore
[02:12] <zaphands_> morbidi: eth1=modem, eth0=router.
[02:12] <kemik> zaphands:  i dontknow what youre doing.. but "dhcpd" or "dhclient" is probably what you wanted to write
[02:12] <zealot> can someone help me find my 2nd hard drive?
[02:12] <zaphands_> morbidi: I can do: ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth1 and it will work!
[02:12] <robotgeek> zealot: fdisk -l , i belive might help u out
[02:13] <cafuego> zealot: it's probably in your computer. have you checked?
[02:13] <brainz> cafuego: sorry the script didnt work :(
[02:13] <|CRS|> lolol
[02:13] <morbidi> zaphands_: that's really strange
[02:13] <cafuego> brainz: Ooh, how naughty. Let's yell at nalioth
[02:13] <morbidi> it seems that the both devices are searching for the same addrs
[02:14] <GoClick> cafuego I can't say for sure it's whatever the SATA RAID controller on the Dell PowerEdge 800 us :/
[02:14] <robotgeek> zealot: also check in /media
[02:14] <zealot> cafuego: in the computer i can only see "filesystem", floppy and the CD rom
[02:14] <kemik> zaphands:  what's your problem?
[02:15] <cafuego> zealot: No, no.. in a terminal, run 'dmesg | grep hd'
[02:15] <zealot> robogeek: there's nothing in /media; just the cd roms
[02:15] <zaphands__> morbidi: oops.. u still here?
[02:16] <zaphands__> morbidi: I was disconnected a minute ago.
[02:16] <zealot> cafuego -> i tried running the command on terminal. i can see the drive there
[02:16] <cafuego> GoClick: CERC or PERC
[02:16] <zealot> cafuego -> how do i make it appear on my computer?
[02:17] <cafuego> zealot: 1) partition it if that ahsn't already been done. 2) Format the aprtition (with mkfs) if that hasn't already been done 3) Add it to /etc/fstab
[02:17] <apokryphos> cafuego: any way to find out who deleted a factoid?
[02:17] <GoClick> cafuego with the cost of the server and the cost of the controlers I doubt it's one of them
[02:17] <cafuego> apokryphos: try !factinfo <factoid>
[02:17] <cafuego> GoClick: No, it's a dell.
[02:17] <zaphands__> morbidi:brb
[02:18] <GoClick> I suppose
[02:18] <benkong2> on a laptop how can i get eth0 and wlan0 to come up manually. This things waits forever when booting.
[02:18] <cafuego> GoClick: The Model 800 comes with either a CERC or a PERC.
[02:18] <zealot> cafuego: if i partition it will i erase it? how do I partition it?
[02:18] <etker> anyone awake ?
[02:18] <zealot> cafuego -> sorry, linux noob
[02:18] <apokryphos> cafuego: for *deleted* ones?
[02:18] <kemik> benkong2:  ifconfig probably, or ifup
[02:18] <cafuego> zealot: You partition it with parted or fdisk.
[02:18] <cafuego> apokryphos: Why not?
[02:18] <etker> i'm curious if theres any commandline soundplayer in ubuntu ?  i'm running the ppc version
[02:18] <cafuego> !test is bar
[02:18] <ubotu> ...but test is already something else...
[02:18] <cafuego> !testes is bar
[02:18] <ubotu> okay, cafuego
[02:18] <cafuego> !delete testes
[02:18] <ubotu> cafuego: Syntax error in line 1
[02:18] <apokryphos> cafuego: I get "there is no such factoid"
[02:18] <cafuego> !forget testes
[02:18] <ubotu> i forgot testes, cafuego
[02:18] <robotgeek> benkong2: open up /etc/network/interfaces, and comment out lines containing auto wlan waut eth0 etc
[02:18] <apokryphos> !factinfo testes
[02:18] <benkong2> kemik, no i mean when booting I don't want to try and bring the interfaces up
[02:19] <ubotu> there's no such factoid as testes, apokryphos
[02:19] <benkong2> robotgeek, thanks
[02:19] <etker> i know i can get sound from the machine because i can hear some drums in the end of the boot process, when i have the login screen
[02:19] <cafuego> apokryphos: Hmm, mebbe not. Which one were you after?
[02:19] <zaphands_> morbidi: back.
[02:19] <robotgeek> etker: mp3blaster
[02:19] <zealot> cafuego -> will creating a partition delete the contents of d: drive? i have about 70 MB of content on it
[02:19] <GoClick> cafuego it says it's onboard SATA RAID tho where as the CERC and PERC controlers are cards for sale, if it's onboard why bother buying one?
[02:19] <cafuego> zealot: Yes.
[02:19] <apokryphos> cafuego: a few random ones which I have vague recollection of adding. Ones I'm almost *sure* existed: mplayer, amarok.
[02:19] <HrdwrBoB> GoClick: because it's not raid
[02:19] <morbidi> zaphands_: so ?
[02:19] <zealot> cafuego: i don't want to do that. I just want linux to recognize the existing full drive
[02:20] <etker> robotgeek: its not on my system ....
[02:20] <GoClick> HrdwrBoB the Dell site says onboard SATA does do RAID
[02:20] <HrdwrBoB> GoClick: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html
[02:20] <apokryphos> cafuego: it should keep record of !forgets as someone can just repeatedly delete loads of factoids etc
[02:20] <cafuego> GoClick: If it's a raid controller, it'll be the CERC. the on-board one is just flat sata.
[02:20] <cafuego> apokryphos: They're not removed from the Db.
[02:20] <zaphands_> morbidi: I can ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth1 and it works ok.
[02:20] <robotgeek> ubotu tell etker about repos
[02:20] <cafuego> zealot: Just mount it, then (add it to /etc/fstab)
[02:20] <zaphands_> morbidi: I can't activate both interfaces.
[02:21] <apokryphos> cafuego: but just not accessible in the list, I guess? :S
[02:21] <etker> robotgeek: i just meant its not on my machine ... i did find it through apt-cache search
[02:21] <morbidi> zaphands_: you are explaing something wrong
[02:21] <GoClick> cafuego ok because it was ordered with a two disk RAID1 no OS configuration
[02:21] <robotgeek> etker: apt-get install mp3blaster
[02:21] <morbidi> brb
[02:21] <etker> robotgeek: its probably a bit overkill though, i just wanna play a few wav sounds. Something tells me that those jungle drums i hear in the boot process are played by a shell command
[02:21] <zaphands_> morbidi: can I PM you with ifconfig and route results?
[02:22] <cafuego> !amarok
[02:22] <etker> so, in a way my question is: is there a way to find out whats happening there in the end of the boot up, when those sounds are playing ?
[02:22] <robotgeek> etker: :)
[02:22] <Nexinarus> anyone successfully installed Transcode here?
[02:22] <cafuego> apokryphos: Correct, their name gets changed to '<factoid> #DEL#'
[02:22] <Xenguy> etker: I think 'sox' has the 'play' command which handles wav's, mp3's, etc.
[02:23] <zealot> cafuego: ok, gotta ask... how do i mount the drive?
[02:23] <webby`> For some reason I can't get w32codecs to install on my comp. I get this error message... E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:23] <cafuego> zealot: with 'mount'
[02:23] <etker> xenguy : aaahhh ofcourse ... i was searching for "play" alone, it never struck me that its probably _in_ the sox package
[02:23] <webby`> How do I fix this and what does that error mean?
[02:23] <etker> wenguy: thanks, will try that
[02:23] <robotgeek> webby`: are u on x86?
[02:23] <webby`> No
[02:23] <webby`> i386
[02:23] <Nexinarus> that is x86..
[02:23] <cafuego> GoClick: the 2.6.12 kernel at a minimum supports the CERC controller by way of the aacraid driver. I'm sure 2.6.10 would too.
[02:23] <robotgeek> webby`: yeah, that's what i meant anyways!
[02:23] <webby`> oh
[02:23] <Xenguy> etker: np
[02:23] <webby`> yes
[02:24] <Nate> Wheres the download for Java Runtime Eviroment?
[02:24] <cafuego> !java
[02:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:25] <apokryphos> cafuego: thanks. No way to see who deleted?
[02:25] <cafuego> apokryphos: no, only who created and last accessed it.
[02:25] <Spudchat> hi guys
[02:25] <Spudchat> does anyone know anything about piedentd?
[02:25] <apokryphos> ok
[02:28] <Nate> Where is a link to the debian package for Java?
[02:28] <apokryphos> Nate: hoary-extras
[02:28] <Nate> I would prefer install a debian package
[02:28] <zealot> ok, noob here. can someone help me mount my second hard drive? first time using linux.
[02:28] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Nate about hoary-extras
[02:29] <Nate> I would like to install it through the terminal, you know, sudo dpkg -i java.deb
[02:29] <Nexinarus> do it then..
[02:29] <Nate> Someone sent me a link earlier but I lost it.
[02:29] <Nate> I'm asking for the link to the .deb download.
[02:29] <apokryphos> Nate: add that repository and you'll have it
[02:30] <apokryphos> Nate: of course you'll get a deb... that's what Ubuntu uses.
[02:30] <Nate> I did, but the server is down and I have to install it through .deb
[02:30] <Nate> I can't use apt-get..
[02:30] <apokryphos> Nate: you're using the wrong mirror then; the one ubotu just gave you is working fine
[02:30] <apokryphos> and why can't you use apt-get? :/
[02:31] <Wanderer_> I am very angry.
[02:31] <Nate> =\ okay, thanks.
[02:31] <apokryphos> Wanderer_: anger is a temporary insanity
[02:31] <Xenguy> Wanderer: try breathing thru you nose, and asking a question :-)
[02:32] <Xenguy> s/you/your
[02:32] <robotgeek> Wanderer_: take 2 deep breaths
[02:32] <zaphands_> How do I `route ` if I have two ethernet interfaces: eth0 connected to the internet, eth1 connected to LAN?
[02:33] <zaphands_> (I don't want to share the i-net connection)
[02:33] <benjamin1254> i dont eather but have 2
[02:34] <Xappe> nalioth: so far so good, it booted into gnome directly after finished install
[02:35] <Wanderer_> I am not angry at anyone in this forum, unless they were a developer for the basic Ubuntu package. I am now going to vent, voice my opinion, what ever you want to call it. If IRC has a moderator, I would ask that he/she, as a courtesy, refrain from kicking me off this channel untill I am done. I will, of course, understand the reason for my being kicked, and will bare no ill will to whoever...
[02:35] <Wanderer_> ...initiates the kicking. Please remember, I only asked not to be kicked untill I am done as a courtesy. If the the rules of this channel at any time dictate that I *must* be kicked immediatly, I will still take no umbridge.
[02:35] <zaphands_> is there a graphical wizard for setting up routing and gateways?
[02:36] <Nexinarus> what if two different packages depend on two different versions of the same package, and you wont both packages installed?
[02:36] <apokryphos> Wanderer_: nice prelude there. :/
[02:36] <zealot> how can I get linux to recognize my second hard drive (it has 70 mbs of content)
[02:36] <robotgeek> Wanderer_: now can u just state ur problem?
[02:36] <Nexinarus> zealot: mount it
[02:37] <FR500> zaphands_: what prob do u have?
[02:37] <bobulor> hi everyone
[02:37] <Nexinarus> hi
[02:37] <robotgeek> bobulor: hi
[02:37] <zealot> neximarus: there's the problem, I don't know how to use the mount command.
[02:38] <FR500> zealot: what you trying to mount
[02:38] <Nate> How do I uninstall a package through terminal
[02:38] <Nate> apt-get uninstall <package> ?
[02:38] <zealot> i'm trying to mount my "d" drive, (what used to be my d drive)... a 80 GB hard drive already installed in the computer
[02:38] <apokryphos> apt-get remove
[02:38] <Nate> Uh
[02:38] <zealot> FR500: i'm trying to mount my "d" drive, (what used to be my d drive)... a 80 GB hard drive already installed in the computer
[02:38] <Xenguy> Nate: apt-get remove
[02:38] <FR500> zealot: is the partition FAT32 or ntfs?
[02:38] <apokryphos> and also perhaps with the --purge option should you want it
[02:39] <zealot> FR500 i don't know. it used to be a slave drive used under windows
[02:39] <Nate> You guys rock :)
[02:39] <Xenguy> Nate: --purge kills all app's config files also
[02:39] <Xappe> do you guys know of any major breakages after colony-3? or can I risk a dist-upgrade?
[02:39] <bobulor> hey uh, are there any uber leet ubuntu people here. I have some hardcore sound issues that rhelmer and seveas couldn't fix the other day
[02:39] <apokryphos> Xappe: you can
[02:39] <Nate> What about chmoding folders/files through terminal
[02:39] <Nate> ?
[02:39] <zaphands_> FR500: I have eth0 connected to my router (LAN) and eth1 connected to my modem (i-net). They work great separatly. They just don't work together.
[02:39] <FR500> zealot: only 1 partition right?
[02:39] <Nate> Like lets say I wanted to chmod opt
[02:39] <apokryphos> Nate: man chmod :)
[02:40] <robotgeek> bobulor: i tht c r i m s u n was the sound guru!
[02:40] <Xappe> apokryphos: ok
[02:40] <zaphands_> FR500: I think it's a routing problem but i'm not sure.
[02:40] <zealot> fr500: yes .... i just installed linux on my c drive (20MB) with one partition.... D drive also has one partition
[02:40] <FR500> zaphands_: how together? both sides probably have DHCP so default gws get overtriten
[02:40] <bobulor> is crimsun here?
[02:40] <zaphands_> FR500: ohm.. can I PM you my `route` table?
[02:41] <FR500> zaphands_: ok
[02:41] <Nate> So if I wanted to chmod opt to 666 I'd type "man chmod /opt 666" ?
[02:41] <FR500> zealot: you need to find out what is the HD name, type sudo fdisk -l and pm me
[02:41] <zaphands_> FR500: I'll disconnect for a second to do that..
[02:41] <zealot> ok
[02:41] <apokryphos> Nate: no. "man" is the command to view the manual page for that given comand
[02:41] <FR500> np
[02:41] <apokryphos> *command
[02:41] <Nate> Oh, thanks :D
[02:41] <apokryphos> Nate: man chmod will give you the manual page for chmod, which instructs on its usage etc
[02:42] <Xenguy> Nate: or man man :-)
[02:42] <FR500> nate type man man :p
[02:42] <Xenguy> heh
[02:42] <apokryphos> Nate: though in this case you can just sudo chmod 666 -R /opt    -- the R option, there, is for recursive
[02:43] <richardk> hey does anyone have vmware installed on there computer
[02:43] <richardk> and you are using gnome
[02:44] <bobulor> yo i have mplayerplug-in and i kinda think it sucks, is there anything else I can hook up with mozilla?
[02:44] <richardk> i just installed it and i need to know where to find it
[02:44] <richardk> on my computer
[02:44] <robotgeek> yeah, maybe he's fallen asleep?
[02:44] <bimberi> :)
[02:45] <richardk> where can i find vmwareworkstation on gnome
[02:45] <richardk> i just installed it on here
[02:45] <ThxGiving> does anyone know if there are to apply special kernel patches for ubuntu?
[02:45] <Nate> I can't remember who it was, or what the site was, but I know it was a ubuntu site, that had downloads of the .deb files for java
[02:45] <richardk> and i cant find it
[02:46] <Xenguy> !java
[02:46] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:46] <Nate> This wasn't it =\ there was a bunch of packages to download, and I found java.
[02:47] <apokryphos> Nate: what's wrong with adding the repository I said?
[02:47] <robotgeek> Nate:add hoary-extras repositories, it had jre1.5
[02:48] <Nate> I would just prefer to run the .deb
[02:48] <apokryphos> Nate: what do you think I'm telling you to do?
[02:48] <apokryphos> that's exactly what I'm suggesting
[02:48] <robotgeek> !lart Agamotto
[02:49] <robotgeek> Agamotto: hehe, sorry!
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> where are iptables settings saved ?
[02:50] <Nate> Sorry, apokryphos thanks.
[02:50] <apokryphos> Nate: let us know if you have problems with adding/downloading it, though.
[02:50] <apokryphos> we're here to help =)
[02:50] <richardk> ok i have mac osx for x86 and i want to install it
[02:50] <richardk> now i need to use vmware to do that
[02:51] <richardk> and i dont know how to use it on linux
[02:51] <richardk> would somebody please help me out
[02:51] <wickedpuppy> use what ? vmware ?
[02:51] <richardk> yes
[02:51] <richardk> vmware
[02:51] <P8ntKid> Can anybody how me where i can get JRE becuase the apt sources dont have it anymore
[02:52] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell P8ntKid about hoary-extras
[02:52] <TraceGreen> richardk, So, you don't know how to install vmware on linux, is it right?
[02:52] <Moongirl^^> good day...
[02:52] <richardk> i have installed it already
[02:52] <robotgeek> Moongirl^^: hi
[02:52] <richardk> i just dont know how to use it
[02:52] <P8ntKid> apokryphos, I have allready enabled the extra repositories
[02:52] <LinuxJones> wickedpuppy, they are lost unless you create a script that loads them or install a firewall tool like firestarter
[02:52] <Moongirl^^> can anybody tell me how to become root w/ ubunto?
[02:52] <robotgeek> !root
[02:52] <ubotu> I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:52] <TraceGreen> richardk, can you run it?
[02:52] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: if you have enabled taht one, then you will have it
[02:52] <wickedpuppy> richardk, shouldn't it for vmware customer support ??
[02:52] <P8ntKid> Moongirl^^, sudo passwd root
[02:52] <ilba7r> i have a problem with deleting a user. I delete him and his group yet as soon as i log in to gdm his name is still there and when i use system>pref>add/del user he is stil there? How can i permenantly remove him?
[02:52] <linuz> hello
[02:52] <robotgeek> Moongirl^^: read that link
[02:53] <richardk> well it is vmwareworkstation
[02:53] <richardk> thats what i installed
[02:53] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: please don't advise people to create a root account when they don't know to use sudo.
[02:53] <linuz> can i make a vpn connection on ubuntu?
[02:53] <ubuntu> hello
[02:53] <Moongirl^^> ok will do.. thanks..
[02:53] <richardk> how bout pear pc
[02:54] <Moongirl^^> su passwd root... ty p8ntKid
[02:54] <richardk> or any other type of program like that
[02:54] <apokryphos> Moongirl^^: it's not recommended that you do that
[02:54] <robotgeek> Moongirl^^: don't use that!
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> btw .. its sudo
[02:54] <apokryphos> Moongirl^^: you should use sudo. Check the link.
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> and use sudo
[02:54] <richardk> can i use that to install mac os x for x86
[02:54] <P8ntKid> Its not like your gona die if you use root...
[02:54] <richardk> onto my computer
[02:54] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: it's pretty dangerous
[02:54] <Xenguy> !sudo
[02:54] <ubotu> hmm... sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:54] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: ubuntu doesn't have it disabled for no reason. You shouldn't advise people to go against it for no reason.
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> richardk, you got vmware ... use it
[02:55] <LinuxJones> richardk, where did you get that ?
[02:55] <Xenguy> Moongirl^^: read that and make up your own mind :-)
[02:55] <richardk> get what
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> vmware
[02:55] <richardk> from vmware.com
[02:55] <P8ntKid> Im not advising anybody to do it, someone asked a question, and i answered it...
[02:55] <LinuxJones> richardk, mac os for x86 from vmware ?
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> then call those guys for help dude ... thats what you paid them for
[02:55] <richardk> no
[02:55] <richardk> mac os x for x86 from apple
[02:55] <wickedpuppy> is it out ?
[02:55] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: erm, yes you did -- your instruction was for them to create/use the root account instead of telling them that Ubuntu has it *disabled* and that it uses *sudo* instead. Read the link.
[02:56] <richardk> it needs vmware to use it
[02:56] <robotgeek> richardk: developer machine?
[02:56] <richardk> it works
[02:56] <richardk> i just need to install it
[02:57] <keegan3747> hi, I am trying to get my linux machine on a home wireless network
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> richardk, how much you paid for that ?? sorry its OT
[02:57] <Nate> http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[02:57] <Moongirl^^> hey guys.. i just want to know how to use the root account...i case i need to install the squid proxy..
[02:57] <P8ntKid> Where is the apt sources list located?
[02:57] <Nate> I'm trying that and it isn't working o-O
[02:57] <keegan3747> I have already done the ndiswrapper thing, now kwifi can't find any networks
[02:57] <apokryphos> Moongirl^^: why didn't you read the link?
[02:57] <richardk> its what
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> P8ntKid, /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <Xenguy> Moongirl^^: exactly
[02:57] <richardk> whats OT mean
[02:57] <wickedpuppy> off topic
[02:57] <richardk> i didnt
[02:57] <keegan3747> it returns: Error : unrecognised wireless request "Mb/s"
[02:57] <keegan3747> Determining IP information for wlan0... failed; no link present.  Check cable?
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> then ? you downloaded ?
[02:58] <richardk> i really good friend on the inside gave it to me
[02:58] <richardk> he works for a certain computer company
[02:58] <wickedpuppy> ok ... richardk ... i advice ... call vmware hotline
[02:58] <LinuxJones> richardk, omg stealing computer software is lame
[02:58] <orlok> keegan3747: hahahahahah
[02:58] <apokryphos> Moongirl^^: prefix your commands with "sudo" which you want to be run with root permissions. You will be prompted for *your* password here.
[02:58] <orlok> keegan3747: thats funny :)
[02:58] <richardk> i didnt steal it
[02:58] <richardk> he helped design it
[02:59] <richardk> he gave me a copy to try out
[02:59] <LinuxJones> richardk, you are not supposed to have it
[02:59] <richardk> what are u gonna do about it
[02:59] <Moongirl^^> ok.. sudo is it...
[02:59] <LinuxJones> richardk, how bout you leave the channel
[02:59] <keegan3747> orlok, wat about it is funny?
[02:59] <keegan3747> that is what it said
[03:00] <LinuxJones> bob2, thank you
[03:00] <Nexinarus> heh what isnt richardk suposed to have?
[03:00] <wickedpuppy> eh ah ... didn't his friend gave him ?? nvm
[03:01] <P8ntKid> I added the extra rep. for apt to download java, but it still sais root@Jonslinux:/home/jon # apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[03:01] <P8ntKid> Reading package lists... Done
[03:01] <P8ntKid> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:01] <P8ntKid> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[03:01] <P8ntKid> root@Jonslinux:/home/jon #
[03:01] <LinuxJones> Nexinarus, he has a pirated copy of OSx for x86 (The developers beta)
[03:01] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:02] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: use that
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> LinuxJones, not pirated ... his friend gave to him ...
[03:02] <robotgeek> wickedpuppy: yeah, right
[03:02] <P8ntKid> robotgeek, ???
[03:02] <P8ntKid> oh
[03:02] <robotgeek> don't paste in the channel
[03:02] <LinuxJones> wickedpuppy, umm your not allowed to distribute that
[03:02] <Akbar> lol
[03:03] <wickedpuppy> then its his friend fault LinuxJones  ... clearly its illegal ... i am wondering whose responsibility is it
[03:03] <Nexinarus> I am so lost with this dependency hell :(
[03:03] <LinuxJones> wickedpuppy, this is offtopic
[03:03] <Agamotto> I can just see Steve Jobs knocking on his/her door
[03:03] <Akbar> so how would you put in/upgrade hardware without the drivers for osxintel :P
[03:03] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: please paste.ubuntullinux.nl your sources.list
[03:03] <Akbar> LinuxJones what repository?
[03:04] <ixiz> How do I install iso-8859-1 on my laptop?
[03:04] <Akbar> I meant P8ntKid what repository?
[03:04] <P8ntKid> The one uboto gave me
[03:04] <emRick> what package contains the "tex" executable?
[03:04] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: did you sudo apt-get update first?
[03:05] <P8ntKid> apokryphos, Yep
[03:05] <robotgeek> emRick: for latex?
[03:05] <Nate> Where is the .deb file I can DOWNLOAD to my desktop and extract myself?
[03:05] <Nate> WITHOUT adding repos.
[03:05] <Wanderer_> To start with, I do not blame those who are just "users" like me, who are on this forum. It's not thier fault that Ubuntu seems to have the crappiest aurodetect for drivers that I have ever had the unfotuneate privilage to be subjected to. It is, however, the developers fault, not only for making an OS that is as crotchety as a senile, 80 year old little lady at detecting hardware correctly,...
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...but also for making it impossible to find a central (not the word, CENTRAL) repository for alternate drivers other than the ones provided with the default install. I also resent in the extream thier evident lack of concearn at making deceant on board help files available (in certain windows, the "Help" button is displayed even though clicking on it results in nothing happening). In fact,...
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...even the 75% of the time you do get a help file, it's not easy to jump from it to other sections of the "help" index, since most titles that form a link indicate not what program they lead to, but simply the acronym of whatever open source developer created them. If (big if) a new user *does* manage to find a relevant help file, it is often formatted oddly, with coherent text sprinkled...
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...with odd gaps of blank space. As for Ubuntu being "Linux For Humans", I really would call that an outright lie, unless one assumes that they mean "human beings that already know what the hell they are doing with a Linux OSW". Sorry, but last time I checked, ol' Aver Age Joe over thier didn't learn to communicate in "sudo-speech" whenever he was instructed in the arts of speaking a...
[03:05] <emRick> robotgeek: Actually, I just want to use "tex" by itself but I don't mind installing "latex" at the same time.
[03:05] <Xenguy> Nate: that is the wrong approach
[03:05] <wickedpuppy> wha wha
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...coherent language. Yet that is repeatedly what one must utilize if one wishes to hammer through Linuxs' sparse GUI Configuration options and actually get the damn C3PO wanna-b to understand where the hell your hardware is, much less get Ubuntu to comprehend what its proper name is and how to have meaningful communications with it. Oh, and who's the wise guy that thought it would be a good...
[03:05] <Wanderer_> ...idea to offer patches and then: A. lump them sloppily toghether, with no semblance of order or catagorization. B. Give them quasi-mystical file names that provide no clue as to whet the hell they do, *and* not provide any descriptions for them (for all I knew, they could have been various patches for getting your OS to indentify Donald Trumps' hairstyle). So, that's it. End of maniacle...
[03:06] <wickedpuppy> bob2, ?
[03:06] <Wanderer_> ...rant. Kick me permanently if you must, Mods That Be, but I COULD NOT in good faith just silently leave the scean. I had to proclaim what a frustrating, hellish, dispicable time I had with this OS. Say sorry, Wanderer.
[03:06] <Nate> I didn't mean it like that,
[03:06] <apokryphos> Wanderer_: you don't have any excuse for flooding the channel
[03:06] <emRick> robotgeek: (I'll repeat myself ...) Actually, I just want to use "tex" by itself but I don't mind installing "latex" at the same time.
[03:06] <apokryphos> Nate: *why*?
[03:06] <robotgeek> yeah, i had my ignore ready!
[03:06] <emRick> apokryphos: is insanity a defense?
[03:06] <kevman> If I do a apt-get dist upgrade from Warty, will the changes I made to my hardware drivers live through it?
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: ... thank you for flooding, unfortunately you misspelt scene
[03:07] <Nexinarus> lol Wanderer_ so you dont like this OS, so what? Go use something else
[03:07] <Nate> It's what worked for me earlier before I reinstalled Ubuntu.
[03:07] <Wanderer_> Nope. You're right, I'm afraid. At least, none that would satisfy any but me.
[03:07] <robotgeek> emRick: tetex-bin , tetex-base, tetex-extras
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> and haven't backed up your observations with any sort of actual problems
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: bad hardware auto detection?
[03:07] <apokryphos> P8ntKid: you haven't added the repo properly; it's there.
[03:07] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: 'other driers' ?
[03:07] <emRick> HrdwrBoB: yikes ... weidy Wanderer might repeat with the spell correct 8-()
[03:07] <Nexinarus> my hardware is quite rare but auto detected fine
[03:07] <emRick> robotgeek: ok, thanks
[03:07] <P8ntKid> apokryphos, What Repo do i need?
[03:08] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: saying 'it sucks' gets you nowhere
[03:08] <apokryphos> Nate: it's hardly rocket-science :). Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add in that line. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[03:08] <Wanderer_> Yep. I was angry. You try seeing how well your spelling holds up.
[03:08] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell P8ntKid about hoary-extras
[03:08] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: general observations have been that the hw autodetection is very good
[03:08] <wickedpuppy> Wanderer_, what is your problem that lead you to flood this chan ?
[03:08] <Akbar> he's right
[03:08] <Nate> I did, but I'm getting an error.
[03:08] <Akbar> there's no sun-j2re
[03:08] <apokryphos> Wanderer_: you're just trolling
[03:08] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: I'm sure you have valid problems
[03:08] <Akbar> in extras
[03:09] <HrdwrBoB> Wanderer_: but until you can qualify them with actual details, no-one will take you seriously
[03:09] <Wanderer_> Already stated, wicked puppy.
[03:09] <kevman> Anyone?
[03:09] <emRick> rocket-science: yow, tetex-bin, etc are 10M each ... sigh, I might do this later on ... but at least now I know what I need
[03:09] <orlok> what hardware?
[03:09] <linux_ubuntu> my browser is not recognising my dailup connection
[03:09] <P8ntKid> apokryphos, I did that, still the same thing
[03:09] <Xenguy> Wanderer_: I don't even know what to say to your precious little rant.  Ubuntu is a very impressive piece of work.  Too bad you had a rough time, but it you intend to continue learning linux you'll have to change your attitude a *lot*.  Maybe OSX is for you instead?
[03:09] <P8ntKid> and i apt-get updated too
[03:10] <wickedpuppy> no .. you never state your problem ... what hardware .. what error messages ...
[03:10] <robotgeek> emRick: i think u meant me :)
[03:10] <robotgeek> i started using breezy and my productivity is already up 150%
[03:11] <emRick> robotgeek: that's what I get for using `dabbrev-expand' in ERC :$(
[03:12] <EasterSunshine> sg nickserv identify immortal
[03:12] <Logistics> opps
[03:12] <Logistics> :X
[03:12] <robotgeek> emRick: ERC, emacs...
[03:12] <linux_ubuntu> can anyone help me??
[03:12] <EasterSunshine> whew...that was close...second time today!!
[03:12] <EasterSunshine> i am running out of passwords...
[03:12] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[03:12] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  Possibly, start with what hardware you are using
[03:12] <concept10> anyone here play americas army?
[03:12] <Flonne> EasterSunshine, switch to your status context before identifying.
[03:13] <EasterSunshine> Flonne: thx, but i think i'll script an auto identifier
[03:13] <robotgeek> linux_ubuntu: or what u need help with :)
[03:13] <linux_ubuntu> i am using lucent win modem on 533 mhz and 128 ram
[03:13] <Xenguy> EasterSunshine: or press the 'home' key ;-)
[03:13] <Agamotto> Ahhh, a win modem... half of your problem.
[03:13] <linux_ubuntu> i need help with firefox
[03:13] <wickedpuppy> linux_ubuntu, you know winmodem is crippled hardware ?
[03:13] <robotgeek> :)
[03:13] <ekimus> !repos
[03:14] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:14] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  Are you not able to connect at all?
[03:14] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help?
[03:14] <linux_ubuntu> i installed it correctly
[03:14] <Efwis> where would I find the directory of the C header files that match my running Kernel?
[03:14] <robotgeek> Efwis: try kernel-headers package
[03:14] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  So it does work, but you are having some difficulty once online?
[03:14] <linux_ubuntu> yes
[03:15] <linux_ubuntu> firefox is not enable to browse
[03:15] <Efwis> thank you
[03:15] <EasterSunshine> linux_ubuntu: you mean unable?
[03:15] <linux_ubuntu> yes
[03:15] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  This is very important - can you fetch your email?
[03:15] <linux_ubuntu> not at all
[03:15] <EasterSunshine> firefox sometimes need to be set to ipv4 from ipv6 sometimes i think
[03:16] <P8ntKid> Does anybody know what Repo i need to ass to get JRE5.0?
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> !tell Wanderer_ about resolution
[03:16] <lui> hello everybody
[03:16] <Agamotto> linux-ubuntu:  I assume that you get the whistle/tones that let you know that you are connected?
[03:16] <linux_ubuntu> i installed extras from terminal
[03:16] <EasterSunshine> P8ntKid: seveas had debs in his experimental repo
[03:16] <P8ntKid> EasterSunshine, And wat repo would that be?
[03:16] <linux_ubuntu> i know its connected by dmesg tail
[03:16] <Agamotto> True, but if he can't even fetch email, that would be the DNS setup, if memory serves
[03:17] <linux_ubuntu> ips assigned correctly
[03:17] <EasterSunshine> P8ntKid: one sec i am looking it up
[03:17] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  what ISP?
[03:17] <P8ntKid> EasterSunshine, k, thanks.
[03:17] <ubuntu> hello room
[03:17] <lui> Is there any application to monitor my cpu temp?
[03:17] <ubuntu> nope
[03:17] <Agamotto> lui:  gkrellm
[03:17] <arzajac>  Hello.  How do I create a mouse cursor theme ub gnome?  What tool do I use?
[03:17] <orlok> Is there a way to see what drivers my initrd has loaded?
[03:18] <tristanmike> linux_ubuntu, this website may have something for you... http://linmodems.org/
[03:18] <EasterSunshine> lui: thermometer
[03:18] <arzajac> lui: lm-sensors or mbmon (xmbmon)
[03:18] <t0mmy> http://www.smashsworld.com/2005/08/im-on-google-talk-right-now.php
[03:18] <t0mmy> google talk go
[03:18] <Agamotto> linux_ubuntu:  I think your problem is that your DNS servers aren't set up properly
[03:18] <t0mmy> (okay so this isn't ubuntu-related but whatever)
[03:18] <robotgeek> t0mmy: offtopic
[03:18] <linux_ubuntu> how to set dns
[03:19] <linux_ubuntu> what settings
[03:19] <lui> wow! thanks everybody
[03:19] <EasterSunshine> P8ntKid: the link was http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ but i just timed out when i tried to connect to it on port 80...
[03:19] <ixiz> Hi i just installed java sdk
[03:19] <t0mmy> is there an #ubuntusocial or what?
[03:19] <arzajac> orlok:  you can see what goes on in dmesg
[03:19] <ixiz> but how do I add that j2sdk directory
[03:19] <EasterSunshine> P8ntKid: but whatever you do, do not install from a bin
[03:19] <robotgeek> t0mmy: ubuntu-offtopic
[03:19] <Agamotto> Not sure myself.  Anyone else good at setting up dial-up stuffs regarding DNS?
[03:19] <t0mmy> i like the community here, and a non-support irc chat would be great
[03:19] <ixiz> to my path so that I can just type java
[03:19] <t0mmy> ah, thanks :D
[03:19] <P8ntKid> Well, i found another.deb in one of Ubuntu ftp's so im gona try that
[03:20] <archie> question:  how to I log on as root using GUI?
[03:20] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: in one of the following ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile (dunno which) do something like $PATH = /javasdk/dir:$PATH
[03:20] <linux_ubuntu> is anyone good at DNS here?
[03:20] <emRick> Agamotto: interesting, how do I get gkrellm to report CPU temperature? the configuration CPU doesn't have anything to turn on this report.
[03:20] <nalioth> t0mmy: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <t0mmy> yeah, i found it :D
[03:21] <Agamotto> emRick:  It should be configuration - builtins - cpu
[03:21] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: and what about the other path's that already are specified, do they remain ?
[03:21] <arzajac> emRick:  I think you need to install and configure lm-sensors.
[03:21] <benjamin1254> totem wont play ne audio for dvds after all dvd librarys are installed... what should i do?
[03:21] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: if you include :$PATH, it should prepend the javadir to the current $PATH
[03:21] <Logistics> any coders with freetime on their hands in here?
[03:21] <Logistics> :X
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> hi guys
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> i'm having major problems installing breezy
[03:22] <Agamotto> benjamin1254:  fetch libdvdcss2
[03:22] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: note the colon, the dir separator
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> could someone help?
[03:22] <EasterSunshine> T5-Steboyuk: just ask and be more specific :)
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> ok
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> well the first install bit goes o
[03:22] <T5-Steboyuk> k
[03:22] <EasterSunshine> Logistics: what langauge?
[03:22] <ixiz> well how do I find out if it should be .bashrc or .bash_profile ?
[03:22] <emRick> Agamotto: odd, can't find it ... is 2.2.7 the most recent?
[03:23] <Agamotto> emRick: I believe so
[03:23] <T5-Steboyuk> then i get the error 'unable to find volume group sda1 - alert! /dev/sda1 does not exist. dropping to a shell'
[03:23] <Agamotto> Check the sensors under built-in as well
[03:23] <T5-Steboyuk> so the first stage of theinstall is ok, then i restart then i get this
[03:23] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: one of them should already include a line similar to the one i gave you
[03:23] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: i guess stick it right under that line
[03:23] <brainz> all, is the backport apt repository down?
[03:23] <Logistics> C++, C# preferably
[03:24] <T5-Steboyuk> anyone?
[03:24] <emRick> Agamotto: ok, I see it in sensors but nothing is responding ... I guess my PC doesn't support this feature.
[03:24] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: my .bash_profile had this line in it: PATH=~/.bin:"${PATH}"
[03:24] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: I found this one: PATH="/bin:"${PATH}"
[03:24] <Agamotto> emRick:  More info on your hardware
[03:24] <benjamin1254> root@ubuntu:/home/benjamin1254 # fetch libdvdcss2
[03:24] <benjamin1254> bash: fetch: command not found
[03:25] <ixiz> lol
[03:25] <ixiz> yes
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: yeah, follow that example
[03:25] <lexhider> is breezy in reasonable shape at the moment? (i know it's not production, etc, etc)
[03:25] <adriyel> I'm back
[03:25] <robotgeek> is network-manager broken on breezy?
[03:25] <T5-Steboyuk> anyone???
[03:25] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: it prepends ~/.bin to $PATH
[03:25] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: so I should just add the line /usr/local/j2sdk/bin:
[03:25] <benjamin1254> it wont b found
[03:25] <benjamin1254> i even did searches
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: you may want to do the line outside the if/fi block
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: cause then if you don't have a ~/.bin, it wont prepend the java dir
[03:26] <Logistics> EasterSunshine, can u code?
[03:26] <Logistics> ;x
[03:26] <hardw1re> \o/ hello
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> Logistics: i did c++ some time ago, now i only do c, python, and perl
[03:26] <bjorn_> How can I open sources.list when i'm in the server thingy :o
[03:26] <ixiz> ok so it should be PATH="/usr/local/j2sdk<ver>/bin:"${PATH}" I should add
[03:26] <robotgeek> bjorn_: nana, or vim
[03:26] <EasterSunshine> Logistics: and NOT winapi programming, plz it was a nightmar
[03:27] <Logistics> im looking for a handful of coders for a project i want to startup
[03:27] <bjorn_> k thanks robotgeek
[03:27] <hardw1re> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: you have a stray double quote. don't put one after the =
[03:27] <T5-Steboyuk> anyone???
[03:28] <EasterSunshine> Logistics: what is the project? and care to continue this conv in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[03:28] <hardw1re> T5-Steboyuk: are you trying to boot of a SATA / SCSI device?
[03:28] <T5-Steboyuk> SCSI
[03:28] <T5-Steboyuk> it's a standard vmware disk
[03:29] <T5-Steboyuk> works fine w/ hoary
[03:29] <EasterSunshine> hardw1re: while you are on the topic, my hde thru to hdh are scsi devices? cause i only have space for four ide devices (hda thru hdd i assume)
[03:29] <hardw1re> yeah my SATA devices work fine with hoary, but they wont work until the hotplug system is booted
[03:29] <T5-Steboyuk> how do i fix this then :(?
[03:30] <hardw1re> so any of my sdx devices i cant mount until that module is loaded
[03:30] <hardw1re> hmmm i honestly dont know, you need a driver to be installed before it trys to mount
[03:30] <T5-Steboyuk> i have a shell to boot from
[03:30] <hardw1re> is the os itself on the scsi drive?
[03:30] <T5-Steboyuk> yes
[03:31] <hardw1re> see if you can load the hotplug module
[03:31] <hardw1re> and then try mounting any sdx devices again
[03:31] <hardw1re> im only taking a stab in the dark here about the hotplug module
[03:31] <hardw1re> cause i use sata
[03:31] <hardw1re> which is hotplug enabled....
[03:31] <T5-Steboyuk> how do i start hotplug?
[03:32] <T5-Steboyuk> modprobe hotplug?
[03:32] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: ok I added this: PATH="/usr/local/j2sdk<ver>/bin":"${PATH}" that's right isn't it?
[03:32] <hardw1re> dunno :|
[03:32] <hardw1re> you can give it a try
[03:32] <hardw1re> no
[03:32] <Agamotto> I could be totally wrong here, but doesn't he need to compile his kernel with the SCSI controller module in it?
[03:32] <hardw1re> ixiz: you need to remove the " at the very end
[03:32] <steph> hey guys, im having a problem with Mp3 files, none of them want to play unless i use totem
[03:32] <emRick> is there a way to find out if (and where) app XYZ is on my KDE menus?
[03:32] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[03:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:32] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: yep
[03:33] <hardw1re> oops i miss read what he'd done ;)
[03:33] <vladuz976> how do you change the default applications like mail for instance?
[03:33] <EasterSunshine> emRick: how vast are your kde menus? just look thru each submenu systematically
[03:33] <hardw1re> T5-Steboyuk: any luck with loading that module?
[03:33] <c0rrupt_> is it possible to convert a wepkey back into plain text?
[03:33] <EasterSunshine> emRick: or go into the menu editor for a list
[03:33] <T5-Steboyuk> modprobe hotplug don't work
[03:33] <ixiz> doesen't work :/
[03:34] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: you will have to open a new shell i think, or restart for it to work...
[03:34] <emRick> EasterSunshine: the menus are sufficiently vast ... would take ~5min to go through them.
[03:34] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: I did
[03:34] <qatsi> hello all !.....ive used gentoo for some time long ago. I remember theres a file where you just add the repositorie and then you run synaptic mannager so you have an updated system, but i really dont remember the file name, and the settings....is there an example i can follow ?
[03:34] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: if you want it working right now, just do that same line in the shell
[03:35] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: and if it still doesn't work, take the quotes off from "/usr/local/j2sdk<ver>/bin"
[03:35] <steph> hey guys, im having a problem with Mp3 files, none of them want to play unless i use totem, and i do have gstreamer0.8-mad installed
[03:35] <emRick> I was wondering where the KDE menu info is stored ... then I could just grep or find or something.
[03:35] <T5-Steboyuk> anyone?
[03:35] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: i'm not really a shell programmer, maybe someone else knows the technical aspects of updating teh path in .bash_profile
[03:35] <qatsi> somehthing like package.source ?
[03:35] <TaxMan> I wish to create an Ubuntu-Jetbrains IntelliJ IDEA livecd so I can use my favorite java IDE at school. How would I go about doing that?
[03:35] <Flonne> qatsi, /etc/apt/sources.list, though Synaptic can edit that for you in most cases.
[03:35] <ixiz> ok
[03:35] <funkyHat> what does 'Hit <CR>' mean? (vim)
[03:35] <EasterSunshine> emRick: #kde would know, but i would suggest the .kde folder under your home
[03:35] <esac> i started using the nvidia driver (and xcomp btw). However all my font sizes seem to have increased considerably, any idea ?
[03:35] <T5-Steboyuk> funkyHat: press enter
[03:35] <zealot> is fr500 still around?
[03:35] <wickedpuppy> funkyHat, that would be enter ...
[03:36] <funkyHat> ok :)
[03:36] <qatsi> Flonne ok, but the updates are there ?
[03:36] <wickedpuppy> CR - Carriage Return
[03:36] <Flonne> qatsi, what updates?
[03:36] <titaniululz> anyone use netspeed? i can't get it to be transparent; it's solid and my taskbar is transparent so it looks ugly :(
[03:36] <qatsi> Flonne system updates.....?
[03:37] <steph> hey guys, im having a problem with Mp3 files, none of them want to play unless i use totem, and i do have gstreamer0.8-mad, and libmad0 installed
[03:37] <hardw1re> ok T5-Steboyuk , i just did a cat /proc/modules, and found this sata_sil <- which relates to my sata chip, your gonna have to find the details of your scsi chip
[03:37] <hardw1re> and find a corrisponding module
[03:38] <hardw1re> like scsi_xxx
[03:38] <qatsi> Flonne forget it, i think ive got it, i just uncomented all lines so i can have all files downloaded
[03:38] <EasterSunshine> steph: did you look at the wiki page that ubotu referred you to?
[03:38] <Flonne> Synaptic has three buttons in the left part of its toolbar. Clicking them in order will upgrade everything.
[03:38] <steph> EasterSunshine, yes
[03:39] <steph> EasterSunshine, ok it looks like music player is now working, but xmms still locks up when i hit play
[03:39] <TaxMan> How do I make a livecd out of an ubuntu installation with all the stuff I need on the livecd?
[03:39] <T5-Steboyuk> scsi_mod
[03:39] <EasterSunshine> steph: catch crimsun, he's the channel sound guru
[03:39] <titaniululz> anyone at all use Netspeed panel applet?
[03:39] <T5-Steboyuk> hardw1re would scsi_mod be right?
[03:39] <dhunter> hotplug is a daemon, is it not? Kernel notifies it of events and loads the modules
[03:39] <qatsi> Flonne now its downloading :) thanx.....
[03:39] <EasterSunshine> steph: check for multiple processes using the sound server
[03:39] <zealot> how can I make a drive I have mounted as "/mnt/slave" appear as a drive letter in the desktop?
[03:40] <EasterSunshine> zealot: make a softlink to it on your desktop and name it after a letter
[03:40] <EasterSunshine> zealot: ln -s i think makes softlinks
[03:40] <hardw1re> T5-Steboyuk: dunno... but did you do a default install, or did you type expert when you installed?
[03:40] <steph> EasterSunshine, xmms has always given me trouble, its nothing new, and mp3's seem to be working after removing and reinstalling gstreamer0.8-mad, i must give this comp back to my wife, thanks for the help =)
[03:40] <dhunter> Or just name it slave.
[03:41] <hardw1re> cause if you install via the expert route then maybe you can get it to work straightaway
[03:41] <T5-Steboyuk> default install
[03:41] <zealot> eastersunshine: let me try
[03:41] <bimberi> zealot: another way is to drag the icon from Places -> Computer onto the Desktop
[03:41] <adriyel> theres an expert install for ubuntu? wtf?
[03:41] <adriyel> oh, gstreamer.
[03:41] <ixiz> ok this is trange, If I go out to my console and write java it finds the java compiler and the path woroks
[03:41] <zealot> bimberi: that's part of the problem, that i don't have an icon there
[03:41] <ixiz> but if I do it in a x-term it does not work??
[03:41] <EasterSunshine> adriyel: when booting from the cd, at the first prompt, typing expert will bring up the expert install i believe
[03:42] <zealot> bimberi: but if i brownse to the /mnt folder, i can see it there
[03:42] <bimberi> zealot: ah
[03:42] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: in xterm, type ps|grep sh
[03:42] <zealot> bimberi: know how to fix that?
[03:42] <hardw1re> T5-Steboyuk: you can give it a shot, it might be sd_mod you need
[03:42] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: and paste here if its one line
[03:42] <lui> arzajac, how do I run lm-sensors?
[03:42] <bimberi> zealot: no sorry - the icons usually appear for me :|
[03:43] <ixiz> EasterSunshine:  11923 pts/3    00:00:00 bash
[03:43] <Wanderer_> !Nickserv
[03:43] <ubotu> Wanderer_: Not a clue
[03:43] <T5-Steboyuk> ugh nein working :(
[03:43] <Wanderer_> ?
[03:43] <dhunter> zealot: do you have read, write permission on /mnt/slave ?
[03:43] <zealot> dhunter: i should have both, i don't know yet
[03:43] <zealot> dhunter: i'm still trying to properly mount it
[03:44] <zealot> dhunter: it's a second hard drive, with 70 GBs of content
[03:44] <wickedpuppy> Wanderer_, /msg nickserv help
[03:44] <dhunter> zealot: What is the file system?
[03:44] <Wanderer_> Oh! So you ARE going to help me? Wow.
[03:44] <zealot> dhunter: how do you mean?
[03:44] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: in the console, or whever it actually worked, type `which java`, if it points to corrent java in the correct directory, then i don't know, sry
[03:45] <dhunter> ext2 dos or whatever?
[03:45] <[Spooky] > Hello, i have moved my computer to a friend and he have a diffrent router than mee, and i cant get any connection with DHCP in Ubuntu, anyone have any idea ?
[03:45] <sproingie> dhcp is dhcp ... does his router use dhcp?
[03:46] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: lol yes it does come  with the correct path, it works in the 'console' I mean when I press ctrl + alt + f1 that console
[03:46] <tristanmike> cd /usr/X11R6/bin
[03:46] <[Spooky] > sproingie yes
[03:46] <T5-Steboyuk> i'll try with an expert install
[03:46] <EasterSunshine> sproingie: there is more to it then that, i've had the same problem as well
[03:46] <zealot> dhunter: it was a slave hard drive that i had under windows
[03:46] <sproingie> what happens when you type ifup eth0?
[03:46] <[Spooky] > dunno im in windows now...
[03:47] <EasterSunshine> ixiz: if it still doesn't work at the next reboot, then maybe ask someone else, i might be missing something really obvious cause i'm new to linux
[03:47] <sproingie> [Spooky] : and dhcp works in windows?
[03:47] <[Spooky] > sproingie yes
[03:47] <[Spooky] > but not in Ubuntu...
[03:47] <zealot> dhunter: actually i don't seem to be able to even read from that drive
[03:47] <dhunter> zealot: Was it found during install?
[03:47] <sproingie> [Spooky] : and your nic is set up for dhcp on the linux side?
[03:48] <zealot> dhunter: no, that's the problem
[03:48] <[Spooky] > sp4ce yep
[03:48] <zealot> dhunter: i was trying to mount it
[03:48] <ixiz> EasterSunshine: ok
[03:48] <LexiCon> has anyone installed a Yukon Gigabit network card and gotten it to work?
[03:48] <zealot> dhunter: i can read from it, i just confirmed that
[03:48] <sproingie> i'll assume that was to me ...
[03:48] <LexiCon> it uses the sk98lin module, which is packed with the kernel
[03:48] <Xappe> hmm, the update-notifier takes about 90% cpu on the very new breezy install on my ibook g3
[03:48] <dhunter> zealot: Ok was it windows 98 2000 xp?
[03:48] <Kyral> then kill it and use Apt-Get :P
[03:48] <zealot> dhunter: windows me
[03:49] <sproingie> [Spooky] : is it wireless by any chance?
[03:49] <zealot> dhunter: then i formatted the computer
[03:49] <punkass> anyone here familiar with 855/915resolution?
[03:49] <[Spooky] > sproingie no...
[03:49] <zealot> dhunter: and installed linux from a fresh drive
[03:49] <dhunter> zealot: with what
[03:49] <Xappe> Kyral: yes, but how do I get it not to load at bootup?
[03:49] <[Spooky] > do i have to re-install ubuntu ?
[03:49] <zealot> dhunter: ubuntu's disk
[03:49] <EasterSunshine> LexiCon: that was one hell of a specific question...
[03:50] <zealot> dhunter: i cannot write on the drive, only read
[03:50] <Kyral> sudo apt-get remove update-notifier :P
[03:50] <zealot> dhunter: can you help me to mount it properly?
[03:50] <Xappe> Kyral: ah, clever :)
[03:50] <Kyral> then again, I just tear out Synaptic as soon as I install, so :P
[03:50] <dhunter> zealot: yes
[03:50] <sproingie> [Spooky] : i'd have to see what the output of ifup was
[03:50] <zealot> dhunter: thx
[03:50] <LexiCon> EasterSunshine: yes...lol....because it's supposed to work with the supplied module, but it doesn't...so I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten the Yukon card to work (its by Marvell)
[03:51] <[Spooky] > sproingie is there any command for reget the dhcp info ?
[03:51] <EasterSunshine> zealot: sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever /mount/point -t ntfs -o ro,umask=022
[03:51] <titaniululz> anyone else have a graphic glitch in ubuntu in the top left corner of their screen, about 24 pixels from the top of the screen? it's a 1 pixel thick horizonal bar, about 60 pixels long
[03:51] <punkass> i am using 915resolution and when i run it it says i am at 1280x800 but the screen is actually bigger than my monitor
[03:51] <sproingie> [Spooky] : on linux?  just ifdown/ifup should do it
[03:51] <dhunter> zealot: what command do you mount it with?
[03:51] <EasterSunshine> zealot: if that doesn't work, try passing -t fat32
[03:51] <punkass> I have to use the mouse to slide the desktop around, if that makes any sense
[03:51] <[Spooky] > sproingie lets try brb
[03:51] <zealot> dhunter: hmm... not sure
[03:51] <sproingie> [Spooky] : run ifup --verbose eth0 on the linux side, that should help point out where any problems are
[03:52] <EasterSunshine> zealot: the fstab line /dev/hda1 /mnt/point/ ntfs ro,umask=022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[03:52] <Efwis> join #ubuntu-kernel
[03:52] <Efwis> bah
[03:52] <adriyel> theres a kernel channel for ubuntu?
[03:52] <adriyel> wtf?
[03:53] <dhunter> zealot: did you save data on this drive from windows?
[03:53] <zealot> dhunter: yes
[03:53] <zealot> eastersunshine: i'm trying that
[03:53] <zealot> dhunter: i did it by adding a line of the fstab
[03:54] <EasterSunshine> zealot: the fstab wont work until a reboot the sudo mount should work immediately
[03:54] <punkass> sdf
[03:54] <punkass> oops
[03:54] <EasterSunshine> actually i think the fstab entry can be mounted by some command without haing to reboot...
[03:54] <adriyel> sudo mount device mountpoint @ EasterSunshine
[03:54] <sproingie> with mount
[03:54] <FruitOfTheLoom> Hi
[03:55] <sproingie> mount /mountpoint
[03:55] <adriyel> why use fstab/reboot
[03:55] <sproingie> if it's in the fstab, it'll figure everything  else out
[03:55] <zealot> eastersunshine: i tried the fstab and the sudo mount -a
[03:55] <FruitOfTheLoom> I was just wondering if anyone here uses Irrlicht?
[03:55] <dhunter> zealot: So the file system is vfat, do this [ mount -t vfat /mnt/slave
[03:55] <EasterSunshine> dhunter: wait winme uses a different filesystem?
[03:56] <sproingie> winme uses fat
[03:56] <EasterSunshine> oh i thought it was ntfs
[03:56] <dhunter> zealot: vfat
[03:56] <user_> hi people
[03:56] <EasterSunshine> zealot: sry, replace all ntfs's with vfat
[03:56] <dhunter> ntfs is nt 2000, xp
[03:56] <Agamotto> winme usually crashes if you try to use ntfs with it
[03:56] <sjg> Agamotto, Winme usually crashes *fixed*
[03:57] <sjg> :P
[03:57] <sproingie> good reason, since it has no idea how to read ntfs
[03:57] <zealot> dunter / eastersunshine: i get the help text when i try either command
[03:57] <sproingie> winme is ... unfortunate
[03:57] <sproingie> MS would probably prefer to forget that it ever existed
[03:57] <TraceGreen> Hello, i want to add a boot splash to my system, apt-cache search bootspalsh, but don't find any.
[03:57] <EasterSunshine> zealot: paste the command you enter
[03:57] <EasterSunshine> zealot: if its one line, that is
[03:57] <jon__> Whats a comand i can use to take a screenshot?
[03:58] <FruitOfTheLoom> System->Take Screenshot
[03:58] <user_> winme is ;-(
[03:58] <jon__> Im not using gnomer, im using fluxbox
[03:58] <FruitOfTheLoom> Does anyone use Anjunta?
[03:58] <jon__> gnome
[03:58] <zealot> eastersunshine: mount -t vfat /mnt/slave
[03:58] <jorgp2> I have hoary installed, but I want to just download the breezy versions, is there a easy way to do this?
[03:59] <dhunter> zealot: Corect me if Im wrong. You have two hard drives.
[03:59] <jorgp2> I dont want to install them, just download them
[03:59] <zealot> dhunter: correct
[03:59] <zealot> dhunter: i installed linux on the first one (20 GB) and have another one with 80 GB
[03:59] <Agamotto> Time to play some games....
[03:59] <jon__> Does anybody know a command to take a screenshot?
[03:59] <EasterSunshine> zealot: `sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /mnt/slave -o umask=022`
[03:59] <EasterSunshine> zealot: replace hdc1 with the acutal partition you wnt
[04:00] <dhunter> zealot: you have dir /mnt/slave ? you created with "mkdir /mnt/slave
[04:00] <gdarel> anyone have a suggestion for video editing software?
[04:00] <zealot> dhunter: yes
[04:00] <user_> why am I grey in post ?; am I invisible ?
[04:00] <zealot> dhunter: i can actually see the contents in that dir, but cannot write there
[04:00] <zealot> eastersunshine: i got : mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /mnt/slave busy
[04:00] <zealot> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is already mounted on /mnt/slave
[04:01] <lui> help! my xmms freezes when trying to play.
[04:01] <EasterSunshine> zealot: so you can see the contents of the vfat partition, the problem is that you cannot write to that partition?
[04:01] <zealot> if i browse in filesystem to /mnt/slave i can see the contents of the drive; i cannot write thoughh.
[04:01] <jon__> Does anybody know a command to take a screenshot?
[04:01] <mello6> don't use xmms =] 
[04:01] <mello6> Rhythmbox works swell.
[04:01] <zealot> eastersunshine: i can see the contents only inside of the folder /mnt/slave
[04:01] <mello6> just try to find some howtos on adding mp3 support to rhythmbox
[04:02] <EasterSunshine> zealot: if vfat filesystem is safe to write, then try not passing -o ro
[04:02] <zealot> eastersunshine: i cannot write there, neither can i see the drive as an icon
[04:02] <tristanmike> yeah me too, rhythmbox suits my needs
[04:02] <gdarel> anyone have a suggestion for video editing software?
[04:02] <Xenguy> jon__: scrot is one
[04:02] <lui> that's right mello6 , but its too big and doesn't have an eq
[04:02] <jon__> Xenguy: ???
[04:02] <zealot> eastersunshine: i'm not sure i know what you mean
[04:02] <EasterSunshine> zealot: if you want to see an icon on your desktop or something, i guess make a softlink to it using ln -s /target /softlink/location
[04:03] <titaniululz> how do i restart the gnome panel?
[04:03] <hardw1re> how much better is the 2.6.12-amd64-k8 kernel over the 2.6.11 / 2.6.10-5 ?
[04:03] <Xenguy> jon__: apt-get install scrot
[04:03] <EasterSunshine> zealot: do `cat /etc/mtab` and look at the line with /mnt/slave in it, paste it here, make sure you only paste one line
[04:04] <Xenguy> jon__: ksnapshot is another
[04:04] <EasterSunshine> and does anyone here know if vfat filesystems are safe to write to?
[04:04] <zealot> eastersunshine: /dev/hdb1 /mnt/slave vfat rw 0 0
[04:04] <c0rrupt_> =-o
[04:04] <user_> I am here but I am lost?
[04:04] <Xenguy> jon__: scrot is command-line; ksnapshot is GUI
[04:04] <_frank> EasterSunshine: of course you can write to vfat
[04:04] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, yes
[04:04] <jon__> Xenguy: Thanks, works great!
[04:04] <hardw1re> reboot
[04:04] <EasterSunshine> _frank, codecaine: and what umask should be passed to allow write?
[04:05] <Xenguy> jon__: yw
[04:05] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, it defaults to allow write
[04:05] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: that's odd, this dude zealot is having trouble writing to a vfat mounted on /mnt/slave
[04:05] <david__> hey folks
[04:06] <codecaine> shouldnt
[04:06] <zealot> eastersunshine: perhaps it was unproperly mounted
[04:06] <titaniululz> anyone know how to restart gnome panel?
[04:06] <david__> I'm a fairly nooby linux user, and am trying to install a modem onto my comp...
[04:06] <dennis__> Hey guys
[04:06] <zealot> eastersunshine: fs500 helped me mount it, and he thought i would likely have troubles writing
[04:06] <codecaine> heres my fstab: /dev/hda2       /mnt/fat32      vfat    defaults        0       0
[04:06] <dennis__> Anyone know what is up with this?
[04:06] <dennis__> dennis@spartan:~$ sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run
[04:06] <dennis__> sudo: ./ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run: command not found
[04:06] <dennis__> dennis@spartan:~$ ./ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run
[04:06] <dennis__> bash: ./ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run: Permission denied
[04:06] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell dennis__ about paste
[04:07] <dennis__> ?
[04:07] <dennis__> Dude
[04:07] <dennis__> that was 4 lines
[04:07] <codecaine> dennis__, chmod +x ati*
[04:07] <dennis__> Hmm
[04:07] <dennis__> Okay
[04:07] <dennis__> Thanks
[04:07] <david__> I need to konw how to install the ppp package
[04:07] <jon__> Xenguy: Is there anyway i can ue scrot but not make a .png image but a .jpg image?
[04:07] <david__> as mentioned here: http://quozl.linux.org.au/mm-5100/
[04:07] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: his mtab reads: /dev/hdb1 /mnt/slave vfat rw 0 0
[04:07] <dennis__> Thanks codecaine
[04:07] <codecaine> yeup
[04:08] <david__> also: hotplug, udev, and pppconfig
[04:08] <david__> anyone know how to ?
[04:08] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, same here
[04:08] <user_> thou does not exist; therefore thou is nil
[04:08] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: you have defaults, not rw, perhaps default includes a umask of 066 or something
[04:08] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: or whatever, amybe i'm just being stupid
[04:09] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, i have defaults for fstab not mtab
[04:09] <EasterSunshine> ah, i WAS being stupid...
[04:10] <david__> any help ?
[04:10] <david__> I need to know how to check if ppp, hotplug, udev and pppconfig are installed
[04:10] <david__> and if not, install them :P
[04:11] <zealot> eastersunshine: perhaps it's not properly mounted?
[04:11] <david__> never mind, got it :)
[04:11] <reiki> if fetchmail is running in daemon mode for me... and I want to have it check mail like right now... if I type fetchmail I am simply told that the background fetchmail at 24743 was awakened. So... does that mean it checked mail or not? :)
[04:12] <EasterSunshine> zealot: my knowlege ends here, sry
[04:12] <EasterSunshine> zealot: wait for someone more experienced to roll in maybe
[04:12] <zealot> eastersunshine: can we try unmounting it and mounting it from scratch?
[04:13] <tristanmike> cd /etc
[04:13] <EasterSunshine> zealot: sure
[04:13] <zealot> eastersunshine: may i pm you?
[04:13] <c0rrupt_> yes
[04:13] <c0rrupt_> hit those corners
[04:13] <EasterSunshine> zealot: i have food all over my fingers, i maay not repsomd
[04:13] <codecaine> zealot, remove it from fstab, mtab and then just do #mount /dev/hd# /mnt/slave
[04:13] <codecaine> make backup of *tabs though
[04:14] <reiki> better to have fetchmail in daemon mode or run from a .crontab?
[04:14] <zealot> codecaine: pls, what's the command to edit ftab again?
[04:14] <codecaine> zealot, fstab?
[04:14] <jon__> Does anybody know a command to take a screenshot?
[04:14] <codecaine> just use any editor, use vim /etc/fstab
[04:14] <EasterSunshine> zealot: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[04:14] <mark__> hi i have a question about a dvd burner i am trying to get to work properly
[04:14] <jon__> Does anybody know a command to take a screenshot?
[04:15] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: remember he will need root permissions to save
[04:15] <HrdwrBoB> jon__: gnome-screenshot
[04:15] <ukato> hello, if i was going to switch to KDE and get rid of all gnome-related things, what would be the best way to do that?
[04:15] <jon__> HrdwrBoB: I said command... I dont use gnome.
[04:15] <EasterSunshine> ukato: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <HrdwrBoB> jon__: that is a command.
[04:15] <EasterSunshine> ukato: or just install kubuntu from the start
[04:15] <mark__> basically i had a cdrw set up as the master on my ide interface, and now I have the dvdrw set up as the master and the cdrw on the same interface, but as slave
[04:16] <zealot> eastersunshine: how do i save?
[04:16] <ukato> eastersunshine, okay, thank you. would that remove all GNOME stuff as well?
[04:16] <EasterSunshine> ukato: apt-get install wil not remove anything
[04:16] <Yukinoroh> hello
[04:17] <EasterSunshine> ukato: yoyu have to remove gnome packages manully
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> jon__: import -window root file.jpg will do it without interaction though
[04:17] <Yukinoroh> anyone know if ubuntu-ja is sjis-based, euc-based or utf8-based ?
[04:17] <mark__> now my dvd is coming up as /dev/hdc and cdrw is /dev/hdd, but i think i need to edit my fstab and stuff, because the dvd is coming up as /media/cdrom, and /media/dvd is not recognized
[04:17] <ukato> eastersunshine, so just go through synaptic and get rid of it that way?
[04:17] <zealot> eastersunshine: sorry, how do i save?
[04:17] <zaphands> Hi all. I have a problem. I can't configure 2 network adapters to work together. They work perfectly one at the time.
[04:18] <bob2> you need to provide a lot more detail if you want help
[04:18] <bob2> a whole lot
[04:18] <bob2> at a guess, did you accidentally give both a default gateway?
[04:18] <zaphands> yes. but it doesn't help to remove them.
[04:18] <EasterSunshine> ukato: yes, do it carefully though
[04:18] <codecaine> HrdwrBoB, what package has import cmd?
[04:19] <bob2> giving both a default gateway is meaningless
[04:19] <bob2> paste your /etc/network/interfaces to #flood
[04:19] <EasterSunshine> ukato: and you may want to chasnge the default welcome scrn too
[04:19] <mark__> I can play dvds, but it's real sporadic, and I sometime get errors that dvd:/ has no plugin setup for it or something like that
[04:19] <mark__> dont know if anyone could help, but id sure appreciate it
[04:19] <bz0b> can someone please help me?
[04:20] <zealot> can someone tell me how do i exit the editor after the "sudo vi /etc/fstab" command? i made the change i needed
[04:20] <bob2> bz0b: you need to ask a question...
[04:20] <bob2> zealot: :wq
[04:20] <c0rrupt_> bzob!
[04:20] <codecaine> bob2, why is your name greyed out in #flood?
[04:20] <c0rrupt_> ask me nigga
[04:20] <bob2> codecaine: I don't use xchat, so I don't know
[04:20] <zealot> bob2 thanks
[04:20] <zaphands> bob2: done.
[04:20] <bob2> c0rrupt_: come on dude
[04:21] <ukato> eastersunshine, so just deleting everything with 'gnome' in it's name would be a bad idea
[04:21] <codecaine> ukato, i wouldn't do it
[04:21] <bob2> zaphands: and what isn't working?
[04:21] <EasterSunshine> zealot: saving in vim is hit escape then :w, and to quit it is :q
[04:21] <bz0b> bob2: well I just bought an dwl-g650 rev b5 wifi card, and I just installed kubuntu, and like after all the apt-get upgrading, and after upating the cvs, I see my wireless card on the lspci, but when I type in modprobe ath_pci nothing happens
[04:22] <zaphands> bob2: i have to disable one of the interface for the internet to work.
[04:22] <bob2> lspci doesn't tell you anything about whether the card is supported or not
[04:22] <zaphands> bob2: using `ifdown eth1` for example.
[04:22] <titaniululz> hell yes i recompiled netspeed and it's transparent now :)
[04:22] <EasterSunshine> ukato: some gnome pacakges are critical to keeping your system
[04:22] <Flonne> bz0b, are you sure it's a 650 and not a 650+?
[04:22] <bob2> zaphands: and what is that machine supposed to do?
[04:22] <bz0b> Flonne: yes
[04:22] <bz0b> its a 650 rev b5
[04:22] <EasterSunshine> ukato: basically, the ones that take out ubuntu-base with em, or the ones that take out like five million other pacakges
[04:22] <bz0b> g650
[04:22] <bob2> zaphands: your setup is rather odd
[04:23] <EasterSunshine> ukato: those are the ones you don't want to remove
[04:23] <ukato> hm
[04:23] <ukato> alright
[04:23] <yaru22> hey guys
[04:23] <ukato> maybe i'll just get kubuntu
[04:23] <ukato> thanks
[04:23] <bz0b> i had the g630, and it didnt work so I exchanged it for a g650
[04:23] <ironmc> anyone know why I am getting a "cannot unlock drive" error message from K3b?  same on DVD and CD writers
[04:23] <zealot> codecaine/eastersunshine: i edited the fstab removing the reference to hdb1 which was linkning to /mnt/slave and tried the "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/slave" command and got the message that hdb1 is already mounted
[04:23] <zaphands> bob2: eth0- connected to modem. eth1- connected to Lan (router). not sharing internet connection.
[04:23] <EasterSunshine> ukato: but if you are really a kder and want to remove gnome all the way, kubuntu is the distro you are looking for
[04:23] <codecaine> zealot, umount /mnt/slave
[04:23] <codecaine> zealot, sudo umount /mnt/slave
[04:23] <bz0b> bob2: I think I am getting a HAL 13 error, for unsupported hardware
[04:24] <bz0b> bob2: but so many people seem to have success with the g650
[04:24] <ukato> eastersunshine, mmk
[04:24] <bz0b> why can't I?
[04:24] <bob2> zaphands: er, so why does eth1 have a gateway configured?
[04:24] <ukato> dunno yet, gonna try it
[04:24] <EasterSunshine> zealot: removing an entry from fstab will not unmount it, you need to do the command codecaine gave you
[04:24] <bob2> bz0b: if you installed crap from cvs, you've broken things already
[04:24] <zealot> codecaine: ok, i unmounted and mounted with "mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/slave" ... what should i do now?
[04:24] <c0rrupt_> bz0b you noober
[04:24] <codecaine> go to /mnt/slave
[04:24] <codecaine> see if u can write
[04:24] <zealot> ok
[04:25] <bz0b> bob2: oh well it didnt pick it up before
[04:25] <bz0b> bob2: and that is what it said to do on the madwifi site
[04:25] <zaphands> bob2: I also tried to remove it using `ip route del defualt` and it didn't work.
[04:25] <EasterSunshine> bash is so nice...if i ask it to `touch me` it does so without complaining
[04:25] <bob2> bz0b: "pick it up"?  installing drivers from cvs will not change lspci output, if that's what you mean.
[04:25] <bz0b> i have the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel
[04:25] <ukato> gnome will fall apart on me if i get rid of its packages while it's running, right
[04:25] <bob2> ignore lspci entirely
[04:25] <bz0b> bob2: ok
[04:25] <bz0b> bob2: what can I do?
[04:25] <bob2> zaphands: get rid of the gateway line, take both down and bring them up again
[04:26] <c0rrupt_> bz0b!
[04:26] <bob2> bz0b: undo whatever you did
[04:26] <c0rrupt_> what did you do?
[04:26] <c0rrupt_> rofl
[04:26] <zaphands> bob2: brb
[04:26] <bob2> c0rrupt_: can you stop being so annoying?
[04:26] <bz0b> how do I undo a cvs
[04:26] <c0rrupt_> i know bz0b
[04:26] <bz0b> c0rrupt_: shut up cracker!
[04:26] <bz0b> c0rrupt_: hehe
[04:26] <zealot> codecaine: i got an access denied message
[04:26] <EasterSunshine> bob2: cvs installs will break my system? then how would you recommend getting a fast cedega?
[04:27] <bz0b> c0rrupt_: hey c0rrupt_ let me install skype, and we will talk
[04:27] <c0rrupt_> you reformated?
[04:27] <evilbulgarian> hi, im trying to patch kernel with reiser4 and there are 2 patches under reiser4-for-2.6/2.6.12/ one is reiser-4-for-2.6.12-3.patch.gz one is reiser4-for-2.6.12-realtime-preempt-2.6.12-final-V0.7.51-29.patch.gz which one should i use?
[04:27] <codecaine> zealot, do ls -l /mnt/slave and tell me what it says
[04:27] <bz0b> c0rrupt_: yeah, to have both xp and kubuntu
[04:27] <zealot> ok
[04:27] <bz0b> rofl
[04:27] <bz0b> I can crack my router on xp but not on linux, how sad
[04:27] <bob2> EasterSunshine: I didn't say that
[04:27] <Loudambiance> I was looking for help as to why my livecd boot hangs after it loads the kernel image
[04:28] <EasterSunshine> zealot: lolol!! try `sudo touch me` under the mounted slave: it will say permission denied hahah!
[04:28] <bob2> EasterSunshine: installing random drivers from cvs to /lib/ can break things, tho
[04:28] <zealot> codecaine: it shows the contents of the root folder of the second hard drive
[04:28] <codecaine> zealot, sorry do "ls -l /mnt"
[04:28] <codecaine> tell me what slave has
[04:28] <bz0b> bob2: would you mind telling me how to uninstall something that I installed with cvs?
[04:28] <codecaine> zealot, sorry do "ls -l /mnt | grep slave"
[04:28] <EasterSunshine> bob2: ah, i thought you were saying about alll cvs
[04:29] <zealot> codecaine: drwxr-xr-x  43 root root 98304 1969-12-31 19:00 slave
[04:29] <codecaine> zealot, ok thats the problem
[04:29] <zealot> ;)
[04:29] <zaphands> bob2: done. but now I can't ping the local network.
[04:29] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: woudn't umask fix it up?
[04:29] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, yeah
[04:30] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: omg i was acutally right for a change. i am never right, i'm always wrong!! ^_^
[04:30] <Loudambiance> is the radeon x800 livecd 5.0.4 compatiable
[04:30] <zealot> eastersunshine/codecaine: how should i umask it?
[04:30] <bz0b> c0rrupt_: get your butt on skizzipe
[04:31] <codecaine> zealot, /dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    vfat    auto,ro,umask=0222 0    0
[04:31] <bz0b> eww
[04:31] <c0rrupt_> im goin to take a shower
[04:31] <c0rrupt_> when i get back ill get on
[04:31] <EasterSunshine> zealot: unmount it, and then in the fstab, where it says default, replace default with auto,rw,umask=0222
[04:31] <bz0b> codecaine: use captive-ntfs or lufis
[04:31] <codecaine> bz0b, he's not using ntfs
[04:31] <bz0b> codecaine: oh
[04:31] <bz0b> eww
[04:31] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: ro? that is read-only
[04:32] <codecaine> it works though
[04:32] <EasterSunshine> ok...listen to codecaine, zealot, he knows what he is doing
[04:32] <zealot> codecaine: i got /dev/hda1 permission denied
[04:32] <EasterSunshine> nvm
[04:32] <codecaine> zealot, you are suppose to change your mounts to what you really have bud
[04:32] <zaphands> bob2: I can't seem to ping anything on eth1...
[04:32] <bob2> zaphands: paste your /etc/network/interfaces again
[04:33] <bob2> bz0b: there is no general way
[04:33] <bz0b> bob2: well then what do you want me to do? reformatt?
[04:33] <bob2> no
[04:33] <dhunter> zealot: easy look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeComputerMenu
[04:33] <bz0b> damn, I was hoping to do some aircracking!
[04:33] <zealot> codecaine: this is what i typed and what i got: /dev/hdb1 /mnt/slave vfat auto,ro,umask=0222 0 0 bash: /dev/hdb1: Permission denied
[04:33] <bob2> do whatever you want, but in future, don't do such silly things
[04:33] <codecaine> zealot, you gotta put that in your fstab bud
[04:33] <zaphands> bob2:done.
[04:34] <zealot> codecaine: ok, let me try
[04:34] <bz0b> bob2: sorry if i am not as guru as you
[04:34] <codecaine> zealot, remove any entries that you already have for /mnt/slave
[04:34] <bob2> zaphands: can you ping 192.1681.1.52?
[04:34] <zealot> codecaine: ok, trying now
[04:34] <bob2> bz0b: that's not at all what I'm talking about
[04:34] <dhunter> zealot: easy look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeComputerMenu
[04:34] <codecaine> zealot, change ro to rw because i was using ntfs and thats why i did ro
[04:35] <zaphands> bob2: yes. but all the rest are unreachable.
[04:35] <EasterSunshine> dhunter: thats an ntfs, it mounts ro
[04:35] <bob2> zaphands: ping says that?
[04:35] <bz0b> bob2: I know, but I wish I knew about this stuff as much as you, what would you recommend me doing to be as knowledgeable as you?
[04:35] <EasterSunshine> dhunter: we are mounting a rw
[04:35] <zaphands> bob2: From 192.168.1.52 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
[04:36] <bob2> zaphands: what does "ip route" say?
[04:36] <dhunter> zealot: just change that.
[04:36] <zaphands> bob2: on #flood
[04:36] <EasterSunshine> what encoding does ubuntu store my korean reggae filenames in? utf-8? and what would winxp store it in on ntfs?
[04:37] <bz0b> wow there is a channel for flooding?
[04:37] <bz0b> heh
[04:37] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, korean reggae eww hah :)
[04:37] <Loudambiance> ok wiki stops at radeon x700, with the drivers for the x700 and x800 being the same, what would cause it not to work?
[04:38] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: man if you heard that stuff, you'd keep a lot of it on your disk
[04:38] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, send me something
[04:38] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: i'm behind an evil router that wont let me send via dcc
[04:38] <shamus> Hi, i'm trying to install ati drivers for my card.. I downloaded the driver itslef and their driver installer. The driver installer is a .run file, what do I do with that?
[04:38] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: plus, i actually support the band, i would request you to buy their cds
[04:39] <robotgeek> okay...does anyone know why upgrading to breezy made the "resize" command go away?
[04:39] <dhunter> zealot: Are you ok now
[04:39] <bob2> shamus: ignore it, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <shamus> thank you
[04:39] <bob2> zaphands: very odd
[04:40] <zealot> dhunter/codecaine: was still trying
[04:40] <bz0b> darnit
[04:40] <glick> hey is thunderbird better than evolution?
[04:41] <bz0b> glick: oh yeah!
[04:41] <bz0b> glick: it owns
[04:41] <glick> there is just something about evolution that i dont like
[04:41] <bz0b> glick: IT OWNZ!
[04:41] <morbidi> lol
[04:41] <Yukinoroh> how often software is updated with ubuntu ?
[04:41] <bz0b> hee
[04:41] <glick> i cant put my finger on it
[04:41] <codecaine> quicker
[04:41] <P8ntKid> Is there anyway i can change the time zone for ubuntu?
[04:41] <bz0b> P8ntKid: yes
[04:41] <glick> bz0b, are you being sarcastic  or you for real?
[04:41] <P8ntKid> bz0b, How?
[04:41] <bz0b> glick: no im for real
[04:41] <zealot> codecaine: do i need to do anything else after modifying the fstab
[04:41] <bz0b> P8ntKid: double click on the time
[04:42] <bz0b> P8ntKid: and it should allow you to change the timezone somewhere in there, look around
[04:42] <codecaine> umount /mnt/slave
[04:42] <EasterSunshine> zealot: unomunt and remount
[04:42] <nate_> Grr having problems installing Java........
[04:42] <nate_> With the ubuntu guide.
[04:42] <P8ntKid> bz0b, Im not using gnome, is there a command i can use?
[04:42] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell nate_ about ubuntuguide
[04:42] <bz0b> P8ntKid: what are you using?
[04:42] <zaphands> bob2: will `ifconfig` output help?
[04:42] <regeya_> way after the fact, and way after someone asked the question:  Thunderbird sucks as a calendaring app.\
[04:42] <P8ntKid> bz0b, FluxBox
[04:42] <EasterSunshine> nate_: you should be using the wiki
[04:42] <bz0b> P8ntKid: nevermind, I don't know sorry :-(
[04:43] <P8ntKid> Is there anyway i can change the time zone for ubuntu?
[04:43] <nate_> So I figure, uh do you know of a java.deb file to download?
[04:43] <bz0b> hehe
[04:43] <P8ntKid> nate_ I have one.
[04:43] <bz0b> eww
[04:43] <nate_> Could you send it please?
[04:43] <P8ntKid> nate_, I have one
[04:43] <bob2> zaphands: no
[04:43] <P8ntKid> nate_, Yes, let me find it
[04:44] <bz0b> fedora whore blows!
[04:44] <bob2> nate_: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:44] <codecaine> bz0b, you're ignorant and irrogant
[04:44] <codecaine> spell check?
[04:44] <P8ntKid> nate_, ftp://ftp2.caliu.info/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[04:44] <zealot> codecaine: dammit, i got access denied again
[04:44] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: run tzconfig
[04:44] <P8ntKid> nate_, Do you know how to install it?
[04:44] <dennis__> Can someone here help me install and get OpenGL working?
[04:44] <bz0b> codecaine: i purposely spelled it that way, to point out how much I dislike fedora core
[04:45] <nate_> Yeah.
[04:45] <dennis__> I have an ati 9600xt gpu
[04:45] <zealot> codecaine: this is what i typed: /dev/hdb1       /mnt/slave      vfat    auto,rw,umask=0222      0       0
[04:45] <codecaine> bz0b, no i meant spell check on what i said
[04:45] <nate_> P8ntKid, I love you.
[04:45] <zealot> on the last line of the fstab
[04:45] <bob2> dennis__: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:45] <nate_> I was looking for it earlier for over an hour.
[04:45] <codecaine> zealot, thats in fstab
[04:45] <codecaine> ok
[04:45] <dhunter> zealot: umask aint going to help your situation. the user you are trying to write to the disk with needs to have write access. try writing to it as root? or change ownership
[04:45] <P8ntKid> nate_, Its ok, i had the same problem earlier today, i searched for hours
[04:45] <zealot> codecaine: yes, that was in fstab
[04:45] <bob2> dennis__: and you already have GL support, you mean "Can someone help me install the ATI binary drivers."
[04:45] <zealot> codecaine: last line of fstab
[04:45] <bz0b> codecaine: yeah, i was gonna say, its spelled arrogant
[04:45] <dennis__> Yeah
[04:46] <nate_> THANK YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH P8ntKid!
[04:46] <yaru22> what kind of tools are you using when programming?
[04:46] <EasterSunshine> zealot: and if you do `sudo touch me` in the folder where it is mounted, you still permission denied?
[04:46] <zaphands> bob2: the router is using DHCP. should I reconfigure both the interfaces to work with DHCP?
[04:46] <P8ntKid> nate_, <3
[04:46] <nate_> :D
[04:46] <EasterSunshine> argh, no one loves me
[04:46] <dgibb> hi guys. According to the unofficial guide to ubuntu, there
[04:46] <nate_> LOL, okay
[04:47] <tristanmike> I love you
[04:47] <zealot> eastersunshine: how do i do it in the folder?
[04:47] <bob2> zaphands: no
[04:47] <dgibb> there's a azureus package, but I can't find one. Do I need a special source line?
[04:47] <EasterSunshine> zealot: cd into the folder
[04:47] <bob2> zaphands: using neither would be better, if possible
[04:47] <codecaine> zealot, try sudo chmod +x /mnt/slave
[04:47] <codecaine> or no
[04:47] <EasterSunshine> zealot: and once you are in, `sudo touch me`
[04:47] <punkass> anyone familiar with 855/915resolution
[04:47] <codecaine> zealot, sudo chmod +w /mnt/slave
[04:47] <shamus> bob2, wiki.ubuntu.com could not be found, says firefox
[04:47] <shamus> i know that's wrong, since i've used that before... but
[04:47] <shamus> is ubuntu.org down for everyone? I can't get any page to open up
[04:47] <zaphands> bob2: not possible.
[04:47] <punkass> trying to get 1280x800 on my laptop
[04:48] <tristanmike> dgibb, I assume you've edited your sources.list
[04:48] <EasterSunshine> shamus: ubuntulinux.org
[04:48] <punkass> so far it says i am at 1280 but the resolution is actually bigger then the monitor
[04:48] <zealot> eastersunshine/codecaine: i tried both. didn't give me an error
[04:48] <zealot> eastersunshine/codecaine: just the command line again
[04:48] <punkass> so i have to move my mouse around to see the whole desktop
[04:48] <EasterSunshine> wait tristanmike...you said you love me?
[04:48] <punkass> any ideas?
[04:48] <dgibb> tristanmike: well, I uncommented some of the universe lines
[04:48] <P8ntKid> I have my timeszones set correctly but my clock i 4 hour behind
[04:48] <kevinrose> hello
[04:48] <tristanmike> EasterSunshine, yeah, sure
[04:48] <sjg> punkass, 1280x800 worked out of the box on my laptop
[04:49] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: sudo touch me worked for him...he needs to set uid and gid maybe
[04:49] <bob2> punkass: you will need to fiddle, look through the wiki
[04:49] <tristanmike> there's enough love to go around
[04:49] <tristanmike> :)
[04:49] <EasterSunshine> tristanmike: <3
[04:49] <dhunter> ugh
[04:49] <codecaine> whoa
[04:49] <bz0b> bob2: you said my issue was easily fixable?
[04:49] <codecaine> this is ubuntu not iloveyou
[04:49] <punkass> bob2: ok..the xorg.conf file was setup perfect on install but its still comin up 1024
[04:50] <P8ntKid> My clock i et to local time, but i want it to be et at universal time, how can i do that?
[04:50] <Em`Zee> Is there a way to run dual sessions on dual monitors with 1 Ubuntu machine?
[04:50] <Em`Zee> like 2 video cards, 2 monitors, and 2 seperate sessions?
[04:50] <zaphands> bob2: NOOOO... the cable was unplugged!! time to go to sleep :-)
[04:50] <tristanmike> dgibb, as explained here...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu
[04:50] <codecaine> zealot, sudo chmod -R +x /mnt/slave
[04:50] <bob2> bz0b: yes, by not running off and doing random things
[04:50] <codecaine> dammit
[04:50] <bob2> zaphands: hah
[04:50] <bz0b> bob2: sorry
[04:50] <codecaine> zealot, sudo chmod -R +w /mnt/slave
[04:50] <bob2> punkass: then it's not "perfect" ;)
[04:50] <sjg> zaphands, /Khan voice,...NOOOOOOOOOO!
[04:50] <JumpManJr> Hey what kernel is ubuntu using?
[04:50] <P8ntKid> My clock is set to local time, but i want it to be set at universal time, how can i do that?
[04:50] <adriyel> typically
[04:50] <Em`Zee> 2.6.10-5
[04:51] <bz0b> bob2: ok, anyways, in #flood you said it was easly fixable, could you maybe help me please?
[04:51] <adriyel> 2.6.10
[04:51] <JumpManJr> Thanks
[04:51] <bob2> bz0b: if you'd googled to begin with, you'd be done by now.  what model is it?
[04:51] <JumpManJr> :-)
[04:51] <bob2> bz0b: just be quiet for ten seconds
[04:51] <bz0b> dwl g650
[04:51] <bz0b> bob2: ok
[04:51] <punkass> bob2..true enough..its the new 915GM chipset..so i am not sure what the support is like for it
[04:51] <dgibb> will look into it, thanks
[04:51] <bz0b> rev b5
[04:51] <bob2> punkass: find aside from autodetection, aiui
[04:51] <tristanmike> no prob
[04:51] <Em`Zee> Can anyone help me? =)
[04:51] <P8ntKid> My clock is set to local time, but i want it to be set at universal time, how can i do that?
[04:51] <bob2> Em`Zee: it's called multiseat. google.
[04:52] <punkass> bob2: huh?
[04:52] <dhunter> zealot: What user do you want to write to the drive?
[04:52] <bob2> P8ntKid: edit /etc/default/rcS
[04:52] <Em`Zee> bob2; Ah thank you =)
[04:52] <bob2> punkass: "fine"
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> OOo2 in breezy still doesn't spellcheck
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> anyone else have this problem
[04:52] <zealot> codecaine: nothing happened
[04:52] <P8ntKid>  /ect/default/rcS
[04:52] <zealot> dhunter: i don't understand... myself, i'm the only user
[04:52] <bob2> bluefoxicy: if they had, they would have reported a bug.
[04:52] <EasterSunshine> zealot: go back in and try to write in it
[04:52] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  i've seen it mentioned on ubuntu-users@
[04:52] <EasterSunshine> zealot: after you did the chmod, it changes the write permissions
[04:53] <zealot> eastersunshine: you so not have permission to write in this folder
[04:53] <punkass> bob2: ah...well as said it set up xorg.conf up to run 1280x800 etc..so it must have recognized the chip
[04:53] <bob2> bluefoxicy: then file a bug already
[04:53] <dennis__> bob2, I followed the directions on that page
[04:53] <zealot> eastersunshine: when I wrote the command, the prompt dissapeared
[04:53] <dennis__> And fglrxinfo still didn't output the right thing
[04:53] <dennis__> :/
[04:53] <adriyel> an ATI card @ dennis?
[04:53] <dennis__> Yes
[04:53] <adriyel> yeowch.
[04:53] <P8ntKid> bob2, That file doesnt exist
[04:53] <dennis__> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[04:53] <dennis__> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:53] <dennis__> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[04:53] <bluefoxicy> bob2: 8333
[04:53] <dhunter> zealot: chown -R zealot /mnt/slave
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> zealot: wow...you still can't write in it?
[04:53] <adriyel> I'll stick with my 6800GT, kthx.
[04:53] <P8ntKid> rox
[04:53] <punkass> bob2: maybe its something wierd Acer does
[04:53] <dennis__> Buy me one and I will to
[04:53] <dennis__> :(
[04:54] <adriyel> lol
[04:54] <bluefoxicy> fixed the directory in 1.9.79.2-0ubuntu2, although we still depend on the the
[04:54] <bluefoxicy> OO.o1 installation. that's post hoary
[04:54] <bob2> punkass: yes, it does
[04:54] <adriyel> I am upgrading soon
[04:54] <bob2> bah
[04:54] <bluefoxicy> wow.
[04:54] <codecaine> dhunter, if that don't work im lost
[04:54] <adriyel> want to buy it?
[04:54] <bob2> P8ntKid: yes it does
[04:54] <zealot> eastersunshine: nope :(
[04:54] <bluefoxicy> OOo1 must be installed for OOo2 to work.
[04:54] <dhunter> zealot: sorry "sudo lot /mnt/slave"
[04:54] <bob2> bluefoxicy: there you go then
[04:54] <adriyel> methinks Imma buying a 7800GT
[04:54] <EasterSunshine> zealot: do dhunter's chown command
[04:54] <adriyel> no wait
[04:54] <adriyel> 7800GTX
[04:54] <P8ntKid> bob2, Yes, im orry, i typed it in wrong.
[04:54] <codecaine> zealot, sudo chown -R +w /mnt/slave
[04:54] <EasterSunshine> zealot: then cd into the directory, and do `touch me`
[04:54] <zealot> ok
[04:54] <bluefoxicy> bob2:  or I could just make a symlink; but no way in HELL am I touching that because dpkg will wreck some files when somebody actually fixes the problem.
[04:54] <dracflamloc> hi all
[04:54] <P8ntKid> bob2, lol my S key doesnt work to well
[04:54] <EasterSunshine> codecaine: chown is change owner, chmod is change modes
[04:54] <codecaine> yeup
[04:55] <dhunter> zealot: no, good god.
[04:55] <zealot> eastersunshine/dhunter/codecaine: chown: invalid option -- r
[04:55] <dennis__> Can I get some help in #ati
[04:55] <dennis__> :o
[04:55] <bluefoxicy> (I've noticed dpkg fucks up rather spectacularly with symlinks a lot; QED breezy development cycle Xorg changes)
[04:55] <dracflamloc> i have installed ubuntu on my laptop (hp zv5260us), and everything is great except for my touchpad doesnt work =(
[04:55] <dhunter> yes
[04:55] <codecaine> -R
[04:55] <P8ntKid> bob2, What part do i need to edit?
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> should we open a new channel for zealot?
[04:55] <bob2> P8ntKid: read it
[04:55] <bluefoxicy> well
[04:55] <bluefoxicy> rather, postinstall scripts
[04:55] <bob2> that's not what "QED" means
[04:55] <bluefoxicy> quo edta demonstratum
[04:55] <bluefoxicy> as is demonstrated
[04:56] <dhunter> zealot: lol
[04:56] <EasterSunshine> bluefoxicy: in math class, we make fun of it, we say "quite easily done"
[04:56] <zealot> dhunter: chown: `+w': invalid user
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> EasterSunshine:  heh
[04:56] <tutbon> I'm pulling my hair out with the kernel panic after the security update as described in bug 13155.  Is there a reliable workaround?
[04:56] <dennis__> Can I get some help in #ati plz?
[04:56] <JumpManJr> Installing  Ubuntu for the first time.  3 hard drives first drive is only 2.1 gig and this needs to be boot drive.  Next drive is 6.4 gig and can't be boot drive (Don't ask)  I have 3rd drive 1 gig I'm using for swap.  So is 1st drive mounted at /boot second drive mounted at / correct?
[04:56] <zealot> :) bear with me guys, first time ever using linux :)
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> oh man
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> when I got ubuntu installed
[04:56] <bob2> dennis__: where did you describe your problem here?
[04:56] <bluefoxicy> my menus and text and crap were all boxes
[04:56] <dennis__> above
[04:57] <dennis__> :o
[04:57] <bluefoxicy> I didn't know what the hell was going on, then I realized I had to install a language pack
[04:57] <MrBiscuit> Does anyone here use Linuxant?
[04:57] <bz0b> bob2: have a second for me?
[04:57] <bob2> JumpManJr: don't bother putting /boot anywhere special
[04:57] <bob2> JumpManJr: put / on the first disk
[04:57] <bob2> bz0b: just be quiet
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> zealot: `chown -R zealot /mnt/slave` reaplce zealot with youer username
[04:57] <bz0b> bob2: ok
[04:57] <dhunter> zealot: no, "sudo chown -R zealot /mnt/slave" thats all
[04:57] <JumpManJr> bob2 ok what do I put on second dirve?
[04:57] <bob2> I'm doing your job by finding the answer on google
[04:57] <bob2> JumpManJr: /home or something
[04:57] <dennis__> bob2, I followed the instructions on that page and still get the same output for flgrxinfo
[04:57] <dennis__> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[04:57] <dennis__> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:57] <dennis__> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[04:57] <bz0b> bob2: :-)
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> zealot: yes with the sudo as dhunter indicated
[04:57] <JumpManJr> not enough room for var on first drive when I do that bob2?
[04:57] <bob2> dennis__: then go back and do it again
[04:57] <MrBiscuit> Does anyone have or ever used or even heard of linuxant?
[04:58] <bob2> JumpManJr: yes there is, a base install is 1.8GB, including /var being full of crap
[04:58] <zealot> ok, something's happening
[04:58] <JumpManJr> Should I make another partition on drive 2 for var?
[04:58] <bob2> MrBiscuit: they make non-free modem drivers
[04:58] <codecaine> MrBiscuit, yes it cost money!
[04:58] <regeya> MrBiscuit: yes, and run away, far away, as fast as you can
[04:58] <johntramp> MrBiscuit, the winmodem drivers?
[04:58] <JumpManJr> bob2.  I ran through it and got an error.
[04:58] <codecaine> MrBiscuit, they made wireless drivers too
[04:58] <JumpManJr> Said I needed 400 gig more for var.
[04:58] <dennis__> bob2, what do you mean do it again?
[04:58] <JumpManJr> mutter.
[04:58] <bob2> JumpManJr: are you sure it's really 2.1GB?
[04:58] <dhunter> zealot: then "chmod -R 755 /mnt/slave"
[04:58] <MrBiscuit> Yes, but they do make ways around it
[04:58] <bob2> dennis__: read the page again, and do it over.  then do it again.
[04:58] <zealot> dhunter/sunshine: it's trying to do it on every single file and says "operation not permitted"
[04:58] <dennis__> :/
[04:58] <zealot> dhunter/sunshine: it's still trying on every single file
[04:58] <sentinel> hmm, for some reason apt-get is throwing up errors when trying to do apt-get install webmin.. all sorts of garble like /etc/webmin/webmin.acl: No such file or directory.. eventually exiting with E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> zealot: are you sure you included sudo?
[04:59] <sentinel> anyone know how I could sort that out?
[04:59] <JumpManJr> Got partition table up right now it says 2.1 GB...
[04:59] <MrBiscuit> When i try to compile the tar.gz version of the linuxant driver with my kernel source, it says "Undefined NO_IRQS" Or NO_IRQS_VECTORS, can anyone tell me how to fix that
[04:59] <bob2> MrBiscuit: you need to talk to the linuxant people
[04:59] <JumpManJr> If I go through it... I get message saying there isn't enough room in var.
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> dhunter: i think it would be easier if he set uid and gid in fstab so he wouldn't have to rechown and rechmod it each time
[04:59] <bob2> MrBiscuit: bear in mind no one but them can fix their drivers
[04:59] <bob2> JumpManJr: well, try putting /var on the other disk then
[05:00] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, that would work most likely
[05:00] <bob2> 2.1 is plenty, tho
[05:00] <JumpManJr> So I'll put /var on 6.4 gig on 2nd drive as well as /home.  OK how much room am I going to need for var?
[05:00] <P8ntKid> bob2, I still dont know wich one to edit
[05:00] <Pimpachu> How can I get the CVS ISO of Ubuntu?
[05:00] <adriyel> why do you need seperate partitions for everything?
[05:00] <dhunter> EasterSunshine, he wont have to
[05:00] <codecaine> adriyel, you dont
[05:00] <bob2> bz0b: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38972&page=1
[05:00] <codecaine> adriyel, just swap and /
[05:00] <bob2> Pimpachu: there isn't any such thing
[05:01] <zealot> eastersunshine: yes, i included the sudo. i tried again.. i t tells me operation not permitted when it tries every file
[05:01] <sentinel> hmm, for some reason apt-get is throwing up errors when trying to do apt-get install webmin.. all sorts of garble like /etc/webmin/webmin.acl: No such file or directory.. eventually exiting with E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)... anyone got any ideas how I could sort that out?
[05:01] <bz0b> bob2: thanks
[05:01] <bob2> JumpManJr: just make all of the second disk /var, you can fix this up later
[05:01] <Pimpachu> bob2, Do I have to use Hoary then? Is there a greater version that 5.04?
[05:01] <JumpManJr> I can?
[05:01] <xulMunkee_> anyone know good RPG games available in ubuntu universe etc... such as KQ?
[05:01] <bob2> sentinel: no need to repeat; the package is broken (or was broken by someone or something on your system).  file a bug on launchpad.net
[05:01] <tristanmike> what's kq?
[05:02] <xulMunkee_> tristanmike, it's a pretty cool console RPG
[05:02] <bob2> Pimpachu: do you mean "I'd like to help test the development version of Ubuntu."?  if so, go find the colony cds, but bear in mind they may be very broken.
[05:02] <EasterSunshine> zealot, dhunter, can we contnue in #dreams? too many stray msg from other ppl here
[05:02] <tristanmike> oh, console
[05:02] <_frank> xulMunkee_: I don't know about universe... there is heroes of lesser renown that works but I've never really played
[05:02] <sentinel> bob2: I did apt-get remove webmin a couple of days ago, and decided to reinstall it just now, except it's throwing up errors
[05:02] <JumpManJr> bob2 are you helping all these people? Thanks for taking the time to help me.  ;-)
[05:02] <P8ntKid> bob2, I still dont know wich one to edit.
[05:02] <sjg> bob2 is a machine :P
[05:02] <Pimpachu> bob2, Ok
[05:02] <xulMunkee_> _frank, thanks i'll try it out
[05:02] <JumpManJr> Ok I'll make all the second drive /var but I really don't know how I'm going to fix it later.
[05:03] <jsgotangco> Pimpachu, its very  broken atm
[05:03] <bob2> sentinel: well, perhaps it didn't remove itself properly.  try manually removign all traces from /etc/ and try installing it again
[05:03] <bob2> P8ntKid: did you actually read it?
[05:03] <c0rrupt__> is there anyreason why at boot
[05:03] <c0rrupt__> my comp stops at configuring network interfaces,until i hit ctrl+c then it continues booting
[05:03] <P8ntKid> bob2, Ye
[05:03] <bob2> P8ntKid: only one of those lines mentions anything about GMT or UTC
[05:03] <P8ntKid> bob2, Yes*
[05:04] <Pimpachu> jsgotangco, Colony2 is broken?
[05:04] <bob2> c0rrupt__: because you're not on the network you told it you were
[05:04] <Pimpachu> jsgotangco, What about Colony1?
[05:04] <adriyel> I thought colony3 was out....
[05:04] <|QuaD-> if i do apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop in breezy, would that damage anything?
[05:04] <P8ntKid> bob2, What do i have to do for the changes to take effect?
[05:04] <bob2> |QuaD-: no, but it won't do anything useful, either
[05:04] <bob2> P8ntKid: more or less reboot
[05:04] <jsgotangco> Pimpachu, they are only useful for debugging purposes
[05:04] <P8ntKid> bob2, k
[05:05] <geneo93> Pimpachu:  colony3 is current
[05:05] <|QuaD-> bob2: my whole xserver is messed up, it freezes when it starts, trying to figure it out, i am getting down to last resorts
[05:05] <Pimpachu> jsgotangco, They don't include newer X versions or anything?
[05:05] <Pimpachu> geneo93, It's get a broken download link
[05:05] <bob2> |QuaD-: well, what you suggested will not help that
[05:06] <Mrafrohea> neone installed clamav on ubuntu before?
[05:06] <Mrafrohea> i'm a *nix n00b
[05:06] <Mrafrohea> learning though...
[05:06] <EasterSunshine> what is the umask for read/write/execute/everything allowed?
[05:06] <|QuaD-> bob2: any suggestions? my logs look fine, and i have reconfigured xserver-xorg numerous times
[05:07] <geneo93> well then its best to get hoary and update that to breezy them Pimpachu
[05:07] <bob2> installing clamav is trivial
[05:07] <bob2> configuring it to do things is harder
[05:08] <Mrafrohea> it's the ./configure part that I'm having a problem with.
[05:08] <P8ntKid> bob2, I rebooted and nothing changed
[05:09] <Mrafrohea> I have gotten down to the point where it tells me "configure: error: User clamav (and/or group clamav) doesn't exist. Please read the documentation !"
[05:09] <Mrafrohea> I don't see that part in the installation instructions and am a little confused...
[05:09] <Mrafrohea> I'm a Windoze user that is trying to convert, so please be gentle...
[05:09] <bob2> P8ntKid: what did you expect to have change?
[05:10] <bob2> Mrafrohea: why are you compiling clamav at all?
[05:10] <Mrafrohea> I've gotten through the rest of it though, installing all of the other tools that it needs.
[05:10] <sentinel> bob2: dpkg --purge webmin worked :)
[05:10] <Mrafrohea> bob2 because the instructions told me I need to run the "./configure".
[05:10] <bob2> Mrafrohea: someone has led you down a massively long garden path here
[05:10] <Mrafrohea> then after that I am supposed to do the "make".
[05:11] <bob2> no
[05:11] <_frank> Mrafrohea: why do you need an antivirus?
[05:11] <Mrafrohea> maybe, but in the long run it'll be better that I unerstand this stuff.
[05:11] <bob2> Mrafrohea: sudo aptitude install clamav
[05:11] <bob2> all done
[05:11] <Mrafrohea> _frank because it's an excuse to learn how to use linux.
[05:11] <JumpManJr> bob2: install is continuing with 2.1 gig ext3 mounted at / and 6.4 ext3 mounted at /var.  After I finish the instal how do I fix it so /home is on 6.4 gig drive with /var?
[05:11] <bob2> bear in mind clamav is only useful for scanning incoming mail for windows users
[05:11] <Mrafrohea> i'm trying to come up with projects to do on this thing, as I'm trying hard to get out of windoze.
[05:11] <johntramp> Mrafrohea, you dont need clamav on a desktop pc
[05:12] <johntramp> Mrafrohea, linux doesnt have viruses
[05:12] <Mrafrohea> I just want to get some kind of antivirus program installed on the linux box. I don't "need" it, but I want it. Clamav is the only one that I have heard of...
[05:12] <_frank> MrNaughty: just get .wmv videos to play, you'll learn the basics of installing stuff in ubuntu ;-)
[05:12] <Mrafrohea> it has rootkits though...
[05:12] <xulMunkee_> _frank, i can't find that game in synaptic.. do you know the pkg name?
[05:12] <HrdwrBoB> Mrafrohea: which clamav won't help you with
[05:12] <_frank> xulMunkee_: its not in synaptic
[05:12] <bob2> Mrafrohea: anti-virus software won't help with rootkits
[05:12] <bob2> Mrafrohea: and rootkits only help when you have already lost
[05:12] <geneo93> johntramp:  yet
[05:13] <Mrafrohea> true, but I still need some projects to practise with...
[05:13] <Mrafrohea> this would be one of them...
[05:13] <_frank> xulMunkee_: Mrafrohea clamav is mostly used to protect windows computers... you're safe
[05:13] <amonkey> i can't get the jpeg2000 component of gaim-vv to install. something aobut qpaint. any suggestions?
[05:13] <johntramp> geneo93, well, I dont see it possible to get them if you are using packages from an official reposotory and do not run any untrusted code
[05:13] <Em`Zee> hey bob2, I googled for multiseat but there is really nothing useful in terms of installation, is there something I can look at since there isn't much documentation in the Synaptic-retrieved multiseat configuration?
[05:14] <Mrafrohea> and I am working on getting wmv files to play... ;p
[05:14] <Mrafrohea> thought I had it, but apparently I messed up somewhere and need to screw around a little more... ;p
[05:14] <bob2> Em`Zee: install ubuntu on a machine with two pci or agp video cards and it should ask you
[05:14] <johntramp> Mrafrohea, set up samba  ;)
[05:14] <Mrafrohea> what is that?
[05:14] <geneo93> well go to cvs and grab unizone then Mrafrohea
[05:14] <Em`Zee> can it be one PCI and one AGP?
[05:14] <Mrafrohea> unizone?
[05:15] <bob2> Em`Zee: yeah
[05:15] <bob2> I gather
[05:15] <geneo93> files sharing ,chat app Mrafrohea
[05:15] <Em`Zee> alright
[05:16] <gus> someone please help?
[05:16] <bob2> !+smart questions
[05:16] <ubotu> Wish i knew, bob2
[05:16] <gus> oi omp342, vc fala de onde?
[05:16] <JumpManJr> bob2:  Lot of stuff going by here.  If you can point me in the right direction I'ld appreciate it.  Just tell me what to read.  I don't see it on ubuntu's support page.
[05:16] <concept10> hello, bob2 ..
[05:16] <Pimpachu> Ubuntu mirror only downloading at 200K >_<
[05:16] <titaniululz> i can't apt-get install samba because samba-common is the wrong version, and when i try to remove samba-common it says it's also going to remove ubuntu-desktop. ?? :(
[05:17] <Mrafrohea> i'll be back in a few... kids need me...
[05:17] <bob2> titaniululz: your /etc/apt/sources.list is full of crap, or was
[05:17] <P8ntKid> bob2, i expected it to fix my clock because my clock is 4 hours behinf
[05:17] <bob2> titaniululz: paste it to #flood
[05:17] <P8ntKid> bob2, behind
[05:17] <bob2> P8ntKid: and you used hwclock to find out the two different times?
[05:17] <bob2> JumpManJr: it's not an ubuntu thing
[05:17] <P8ntKid> bob2, No.
[05:18] <JumpManJr> bob2:  hmmm okay so I want to read how-to on what?
[05:18] <La_PaRCa> !ntfs
[05:18] <bob2> JumpManJr: boot into single-user mode.  umount /var/.  mount what was /var on /mnt/.  copy contents to /var/.  come back up.  make sure it worked.  then delete the contents of /mnt/.
[05:18] <godzirra> how do I reconfigure X?  I cahnged video cards because my other one went out.
[05:18] <P8ntKid> bob2, I dont really know what i wrong, i just want to set the clock to the right time, and im not really sure how to do that.
[05:18] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[05:18] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:18] <bob2> godzirra: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:18] <godzirra> P8ntKid: man date
[05:18] <godzirra> bob2: thanks
[05:18] <gus> I would like to know how it is organized the system logs...my firefox window has been just closed ...I dont know why...any clue how to find out??
[05:18] <bob2> P8ntKid: er
[05:18] <titaniululz> bob2: pasted
[05:19] <godzirra> P8ntKid: Also make sure the bios clock is right.  Mine kept resetting to the bios clock on reboot.
[05:19] <bob2> P8ntKid: I hope you actually checked UTC-ness was the problem to begin with...
[05:19] <balls> anyone know of a way to boot the live cd with a low res??
[05:19] <bob2> gus: ~/.xsession-errors
[05:19] <P8ntKid> bob2, k
[05:19] <gus> thanks bob2
[05:19] <JumpManJr> bob2: won't it try to remount the old var when I come back up?
[05:19] <P8ntKid> bob2, utc i checked to yes
[05:20] <bob2> JumpManJr: yes, you have to fix /etc/fstab, too
[05:20] <P8ntKid> godzirra, You think its my bios time?
[05:20] <bob2> P8ntKid: so, hwclock shows that the hardware has the right time?
[05:20] <P8ntKid> bob2, hwclock show the same time that fluxbox shows me
[05:20] <JumpManJr> ok i'll try to figure it out.
[05:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> in ubuntu, how do i want to add services that i'd like to autostart on boot, such as tor and privoxy?
[05:21] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: that happens by default
[05:21] <godzirra> P8ntKid: no,it very well may be your normal time.. just saying I had that problem so if its changing on every reboot, you may want to look at it.
[05:21] <bob2> and it's the same as on any other unix since 1943
[05:21] <bob2> aside from bsd
[05:21] <adriyel> hey, anyone here ever used the Enlightenment desktop?
[05:21] <P8ntKid> godzirra, Wekk, my battery doent work, o that might be why.
[05:21] <godzirra> that might do it :)
[05:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 what do you mean happens by default?
[05:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> tor is booted by default?
[05:22] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: "when you install a daemon, it runs by default"
[05:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> actually i found an entry for it.
[05:22] <titaniululz> still getting this when i try to apt get install samba, any ideas?  samba: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed
[05:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> ahh!
[05:22] <sjg> adriyel, enlightenment..heh veeeeeeeeeery long time ago :P
[05:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> yes i see the entries in /etc/rc2.d/
[05:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> thanks.
[05:22] <bob2> titaniululz: paste the output of 'apt-cache policy samba' to #flood
[05:23] <ashley3452> Hi, I was hoping to ask a question about ssh and X forwarding, doesanyone here know much about these two things?
[05:23] <halley> ashley3452, beyond (ssh -X hostname), not much.
[05:23] <ashley3452> heh Ive got to -XC
[05:23] <halley> the -X means, "tunnel X stuff through the connection"
[05:23] <ashley3452> yeh I know
[05:23] <bob2> ashley3452: best to just ask your question
[05:23] <EasterSunshine> what is the syntax to mount an etnry from fstab?
[05:23] <ashley3452> I dont know what -C does, but it makes it work
[05:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm trying to use google's new jabber server.
[05:24] <bob2> titaniululz: and 'apt-cache policy samba-common'
[05:24] <ashley3452> EasterSunshine, I think just mount <mount poiint>
[05:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> woah..it works
[05:24] <ashley3452> so anyone know much bout ssh and X ?
[05:24] <EasterSunshine> ashley3452: think there was a -a in there somewhere?
[05:24] <bob2> titaniululz: using backports, you lose
[05:25] <EasterSunshine> ashley3452: cause otherwise it spits back at me that the fstype is wrong
[05:25] <bob2> titaniululz: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends samba-common ; sudo aptitude install samba
[05:25] <EasterSunshine> ashley3452: and i'm pretty sure my fstab is correct
[05:25] <ashley3452> ahh that could be wrong in your fstab then ?
[05:25] <bob2> ashley3452: it's really better to just ask your question
[05:25] <ashley3452> do u get same error when you boot up ?
[05:25] <titaniululz> bob2: sorry someone else had me add backports a while ago for something else :( i will remove it and try that
[05:25] <sjg> ashley3452, btw, man ssh /   ~C      Open command line.
[05:25] <ashley3452> bob2, ok i will
[05:25] <EasterSunshine> ashley3452: nvm , i got it, thx anytway ^_^
[05:25] <ashley3452> sjg, thanks
[05:25] <balls> hi there, im having some video problems upon booting the live cd... is there a way to boot the live cd with a low res??
[05:26] <halley> Someone http: published a dir full of .deb files and a Packages.gz line.  What would I need to do to use it as a source for apt?
[05:26] <ashley3452> um so heres what I want to do, I just need to know what its called 9and if it's possible) I can resarch how
[05:26] <bob2> halley: deb http://machine/path/ ./
[05:26] <ashley3452> I have a machine A in my room
[05:26] <ashley3452> and a machine B in my lounge
[05:26] <ashley3452> I can ssh to B and start X apps
[05:26] <bob2> it's a lot easier if you ask a whole question on one line
[05:26] <ashley3452> they show up on A , thats all good
[05:27] <ashley3452> ok sorry will do
[05:27] <halley> What does the ./ indicate?  That there's no multiple-dist subdirectory below the url?
[05:27] <La_PaRCa> !grub
[05:27] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:27] <bob2> halley: yes
[05:27] <gus> I cant find why my browser has been closed...I looked at the .xsession log file, but theres no thing related with my browser...please help?
[05:27] <halley> bob2, thankee!
[05:27] <titaniululz> bob2: i'm on the aptitude install samba step and it says this:  The following packages will be REMOVED:  smbclient ubuntu-desktop    -- should i be worried about 'ubuntu-desktop' ? :(
[05:27] <bob2> gus: so run it from a terminal
[05:27] <bob2> titaniululz: yay for backports!
[05:28] <bob2> yes, you should be worried
[05:28] <titaniululz> bob2,  crap :(
[05:28] <ashley3452> machien B in my lounge, Machine A in my room. ssh from A to B, and start X apps, thats ok. Now I want to have them set uop, and send the X app window back to the server, so I can turn off the noisy computer in my room, and have the lounge one keep downloading/trasncoding/etc...can it be done ?
[05:28] <bob2> apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop -> #flood
[05:28] <bob2> ashley3452: you want the X apps to work after you shutdown the computer that was displaying them?
[05:29] <billytwowilly> anyone get rtorrent working with ubuntu?
[05:29] <darksoul> whats so diffrant with breezy?
[05:29] <ashley3452> yeh
[05:29] <sjg> ashley3452, you may want to use vnc instead of launching the apps remotely
[05:29] <darksoul> from what i seen its just like normal ubuntu
[05:29] <ashley3452> like send them back by changing the display ?
[05:29] <bob2> ashley3452: xmove is what you want to look at
[05:29] <EasterSunshine> ashley3452: you sound knowledgable, you know if there is any way to run xapps on putty ssh client without xbeing installed on windows?
[05:29] <adriyel> vc would be wise
[05:29] <adriyel> vnc
[05:29] <bob2> EasterSunshine: no
[05:29] <bob2> titaniululz: ouch
[05:29] <ashley3452> not realiably/cheaply
[05:29] <darksoul> is there any screen shots of kde breezy?
[05:29] <bob2> titaniululz: and your /etc/apt/sources.list again
[05:29] <sjg> bob2, xmove .....i totally forgot about that :P
[05:29] <adriyel> set up a host VNC on the machine you want to manipulate remotely
[05:29] <ashley3452> download knoppix
[05:29] <bob2> darksoul: #kubuntu
[05:29] <adriyel> then a client on yours
[05:29] <adriyel> you'll find life easier
[05:29] <ashley3452> Ive used VNC, thanks
[05:29] <ashley3452> that migh be my best alternative
[05:29] <darksoul> bob2: yea but for breezy
[05:30] <ashley3452> Ill try out thisxmovethough too thanks
[05:30] <adriyel> I was about to say
[05:30] <adriyel> no need to snappy however.
[05:30] <sjg> Thats the one i use, xmove is a good  way as well
[05:30] <adriyel> it just seems like the most logical path
[05:30] <darksoul> bob2: any screen shots of breezy with kde on it? and can ya tell me whats diff?
[05:30] <P8ntKid> bob2, It was my bios clock, that was the whole reason, its fixed now. thanks!
[05:30] <titaniululz> bob2, #flood
[05:30] <bob2> darksoul: #kubuntu
[05:30] <bob2> I doubt it looks any different
[05:30] <ashley3452> see the other thing is, the lounge PC is runing mythtv, so I dont wanna clutter that display with windows, will vnc/xmove do this ?
[05:30] <sjg> mmmm mythtv
[05:31] <ashley3452> heh I havent got it set up completely yet, its a work in progress
[05:31] <bob2> titaniululz: dunno what backport package is breaking it for you then
[05:31] <sjg> ditto
[05:31] <ashley3452> i built it over the weekend
[05:31] <bob2> titaniululz: I'd use apt-show-versions to find anything with ubp in the versoin
[05:31] <sjg> I gotta set up myth to control 3 sat boxes :P
[05:31] <gus> why there are so many "unix" connections ...executting netstat???
[05:31] <EasterSunshine> is umask 0222 ok for read/write?
[05:31] <ashley3452> ooch flag that
[05:31] <titaniululz> bob2, apt-show-versions? command not found
[05:31] <billytwowilly> ashley3452: mythtv rocks. I haven't used it since 0.15, but it was rocking back then. it must be hella sweet now
[05:31] <ashley3452> Im gonna buy a IR keyboard, and a "universal remote"
[05:31] <sjg> 3 tv tuner cards :P
[05:32] <ashley3452> and get the remote to learn the main keybaord comannds
[05:32] <sjg> lol
[05:32] <ashley3452> ive heard its the easiest way to get remote for myth
[05:32] <bob2> titaniululz: then install it...
[05:32] <adriyel> ashley, thats a little excessively elaborate don't you think? ohhh...PVR box, thats why.
[05:32] <bob2> gus: they're fine, they're process talking to each other
[05:32] <billytwowilly> knoppmyth support the pvr-250 remote and ati remote wonder out of the box
[05:32] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[05:32] <ashley3452> yeh your'e right, I could prolly just runwith the keyboard
[05:32] <HrdwrBoB> I don't bother with TV
[05:33] <HrdwrBoB> I watch the torrentvision
[05:33] <ashley3452> I dont have TV card yet
[05:33] <sjg> torrents, take to darn long
[05:33] <ashley3452> so just movies and shows that I dl
[05:33] <sjg> to download
[05:33] <titaniululz> bob2, #flood
[05:33] <gus> thanks bob2, but how can I learn about them??? I want to learn everything :) I need to know what is going on...
[05:33] <bob2> titaniululz: haha
[05:33] <titaniululz> bob2 :O
[05:33] <bob2> go TEAM BACKPORTS
[05:34] <bob2> titaniululz: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends smbclient
[05:34] <adriyel> why is XMMS so crappy? and why haven't distro's changed to BMP?
[05:34] <bob2> gus: no idea
[05:34] <titaniululz> bob2 i'm new to both linux and ubuntu i didn't realize backports was a bad thing :(
[05:34] <WhiteRabbit> bmp lacks in some areas that xmms doesn't I belive
[05:34] <bob2> adriyel: how is it crappy? and because BMP is identical, aside from having less plugins and an anti-aliased preferences dialog
[05:34] <titaniululz> bob2: okay, removed
[05:34] <ashley3452> bob2, you read my mind "xmove lets you change which display an X Window System program renders to - this could be a different monitor or even a different machine."
[05:34] <ashley3452> thanks
[05:34] <bob2> np
[05:35] <adriyel> FSCK.
[05:35] <adriyel> stupid BMP
[05:35] <titaniululz> still can't get apt-show-versions
[05:36] <bob2> titaniululz: apt-cache policy apt
[05:36] <bob2> I will cry if they included a "backport" of it
[05:36] <bob2> tears, then rage
[05:36] <regeya> by the way, there's a port of xmms-mad to bmp if anyone cares to search for it.  I had it running on gentoo at some point, wiped out my gentoo install along with the patches, like a tard, when I switched back to ubuntu
[05:36] <titaniululz> bob2, #flood ..
[05:37] <gus> I would like to learn about each process running here....e.g. the metacity process, does what???
[05:37] <bob2> gus: er, dude
[05:37] <HrdwrBoB> gus: window manager
[05:37] <bob2> you're going to be on everyone's ignore list if you do that
[05:37] <regeya> but um, yeah, some japanese person ported xmms-mad to bmp, but had included some other nonstandard unicode lib.  once you remove the unicode infection it works fine.
[05:37] <bob2> gus: take the process name.  then find it in /usr/bin/ or /bin or /usr/X11R6/bin or wherever
[05:37] <HrdwrBoB> gus: you can use dpkg -S program to find out what package owns it
[05:37] <bob2> gus: then use dpkg -S to find out what package that is
[05:38] <bob2> titaniululz: dunno then, talk to the backports people I guess
[05:38] <titaniululz> bob2: when i do apt-get -f install like it recommends, it says new packages to be installed: smbclient and samba-common. try it? i have backports and such removed now
[05:38] <bob2> worth a try
[05:39] <titaniululz> bob2: its installing it from the cd
[05:40] <bob2> gus: please dont try to dcc chat me
[05:40] <gus> thank you very much :)
[05:40] <bob2> ask questions in here, tho private tuition is available at reasonable rates
[05:40] <sophie_msumu976> hi
[05:40] <sjg> lol bob
[05:40] <titaniululz> bob2,  apt-get install samba works now too! hooray. it seems like everything is fine, unless ubuntu-desktop got removed or something and if i reboot my machine will die. :O is that possible in linux? i've only ever used windows
[05:40] <gus> I see
[05:40] <sophie_msumu976> help on mpd appreciated
[05:41] <bob2> titaniululz: it's extremely unlikely to break on reboot
[05:41] <titaniululz> bob2, * Starting Samba daemons..     [ ok ]              :)  thank you very much, i never would've fixed that without your help
[05:41] <sjg> samba is the debil
[05:41] <sjg> :P
[05:41] <titaniululz> bob2, and lesson learned, don't use backports :)
[05:41] <titaniululz> sjg, :P
[05:42] <sjg> backports are ok if you absolutely need them
[05:42] <Pickle_Weasel> now..hold your laughter...but i'm having trouble dialing up to aol with my winmodem -_-
[05:42] <sjg> if you dont need them for a specific reason, avoid..runaway
[05:42] <titaniululz> i did for one thing but i didn't understand how it worked or how it could break other things
[05:42] <sjg> Pickle_Weasel, ><
[05:42] <titaniululz> i'm starting to see now how the whole system works
[05:42] <bob2> apt is just a constraint solver
[05:42] <Pickle_Weasel> i got the winmodem working, and i got a source code for the only dialer known to work, but i don't know how to compile it
[05:42] <bob2> using backports can get the system into a state with no solution
[05:43] <bob2> Pickle_Weasel: and that dialer is ...
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> los aol
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> made for linspire (lindows)
[05:43] <bob2> you're using AOL?
[05:43] <bob2> ouch
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> ouch indeed
[05:43] <adriyel> aol...
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> which is why i am trying to get this dialer to work, it's the only aol dialer known to work on linux
[05:43] <sjg> exactly
[05:43] <adriyel> you gotta be fucking kidding me?
[05:43] <billytwowilly> anyone have any experience with pkg-config? whoever packaged openssl didn't include a .pc file
[05:43] <bob2> adriyel: ?
[05:43] <titaniululz> okay, back to following the wiki guide on setting up samba. one of the steps is to enable windows networking in network options; i don't have that option.
[05:43] <adriyel> AOL?
[05:43] <adriyel> on Linux?
[05:43] <Pickle_Weasel> it works!
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> on linux
[05:44] <sjg> but...why...
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> i just need to compile this source code
[05:44] <adriyel> if this proliferates into my holy ground, I am...oh my God...I'm switching to BSD
[05:44] <bob2> billytwowilly: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/openssl.pc
[05:44] <sjg> :P
[05:44] <adriyel> screw you people
[05:44] <bob2> adriyel: please chill out
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> aol on linux is like...wtf?
[05:44] <titaniululz> also my network settings dialogue box looks nothing like the one on the wiki despite the fact that i'm using hoary 5.04
[05:44] <adriyel> FreeBSD, you're the last stronghold...
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> and ./configure make make instal doesn't work
[05:44] <bob2> Pickle_Weasel: you'll need to find instructions for it
[05:44] <adriyel> EasterSunshine: my compliments exactly
[05:44] <bob2> Pickle_Weasel: or perhaps ask in #linspire
[05:44] <adriyel> why use AOL and Linux
[05:44] <adriyel> it makes no sense
[05:44] <Pickle_Weasel> channel doesn't exist =\
[05:45] <Pickle_Weasel> adriyel, because AOL is all i have and i want a connection in linux
[05:45] <EasterSunshine> Pickle_Weasel: you mean, its empty?
[05:45] <adriyel> its like getting a manual transmission and a big exhaust on a geo metro, it makes no sense
[05:45] <billytwowilly> bob2: I don't have that file, but there aren't obvious openssl dev files...
[05:45] <Pickle_Weasel> aye, empty
[05:45] <adriyel> are they any other ISP's in your area Pickle?
[05:45] <bob2> billytwowilly: yes there are
[05:45] <adriyel> we should have like, a collection to upgrade you
[05:45] <bob2> billytwowilly: libssl-dev
[05:45] <titaniululz> are there mutliple versions of 'network settings' in hoary?
[05:46] <billytwowilly> bob2: would be nice if it was named so it showed up when I searched openssl;) oh well..
[05:46] <bob2> billytwowilly: ask the openssl people to change their library name then
[05:46] <bob2> billytwowilly: "apt-cache search openssl dev" finds it
[05:47] <billytwowilly> bob2: synaptic search for openssl in file and description doesn't...
[05:48] <bob2> file a bug on synaptic
[05:48] <cafuego> bob2: Were you running courier with vmail users?
[05:48] <bob2> cafuego: yeah
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> los aol compile
[05:48] <Pickle_Weasel> erm
[05:48] <cafuego> bob2: Are you doing any server-side filtering?
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> sorry, that was supposed to have a /ggole in front of it
[05:49] <Pickle_Weasel> google*
[05:49] <bob2> cafuego: not per-user (rbls and blacklists, and I used to use SA)
[05:49] <cafuego> bob2: As in: file mail into different mailboxes based on header matching...
[05:49] <bob2> cafuego: no
[05:49] <bob2> cafuego: it looked rather hard to setup
[05:49] <cafuego> bob2: Ah ok, you won't have had my problem, then. (I've got it set up, works fime from the cmdline, but refuses to work through postfix)
[05:50] <bob2> ah
[05:50] <Pickle_Weasel> is there any way i can compile a program if i don't find instructions to do so? i know it's written in python, and that seems to be all i can find out
[05:51] <bob2> talk to whoever wrote it
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[05:51] <bob2> you won't be compiling it then, anyway
[05:51] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[05:51] <bob2> I'd be very surprised if it had no usage instructions at all
[05:51] <bob2> that would be shit, even for linspire
[05:51] <Pickle_Weasel> well, the thing is, linspire has a compiled version out there
[05:51] <Pickle_Weasel> but only for members of linspire
[05:52] <Pickle_Weasel> the source code is available for free
[05:52] <Pickle_Weasel> no instructions, however =\
[05:52] <sjg> Thats kinda crappy :P
[05:52] <bob2> and no one ever wrote external instructions?
[05:53] <Pickle_Weasel> not that i can find, a google search for "los aol" brings me hispanic people complaining about AOL =\
[05:54] <kainos> how do i know if my laptop's modem is working properly?
[05:54] <cafuego> kainos: a dialtone is normally a good indication
[05:54] <wjesusaxl> I have the following error message: /usr/lib/kaffe/jthreads/jre/bin/kaffe-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/kaffe/jthreads/jre/bin: symbol __libc_stack_end, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[05:54] <wjesusaxl> any idea?
[05:54] <bob2> wjesusaxl: where did you get your kaffe package from?
[05:54] <cafuego> wjesusaxl: breezy?
[05:55] <adriyel> hispanics and AOL
[05:55] <adriyel> fascinating
[05:55] <wjesusaxl> bob2: I don't remember I downloaded it
[05:55] <bob2> wjesusaxl: you need to find out
[05:56] <billytwowilly> whats the name of the program to convert source code to a deb file automagically?
[05:56] <cafuego> billytwowilly: checkinstall
[05:56] <Pickle_Weasel> haha
[05:56] <cafuego> billytwowilly: it WILL need a small amount of thought, though
[05:56] <billytwowilly> cafuego: thank you
[05:57] <billytwowilly> cafuego: I've used it before several times, I just couldn't remember the name. It's been a long time...
[05:57] <wjesusaxl> bob2: it came along with the java package I downloaded years ago
[05:57] <wjesusaxl> It was working..
[05:57] <bob2> then get rid of it
[05:57] <bob2> and install kaffe from ubuntu
[05:57] <bob2> assuming you're using haory
[05:58] <dennis__> Can someone help me change the default application to open a .torrent file?
[05:58] <wjesusaxl> but i've been messing around with my "sources.list"
[05:58] <bob2> wjesusaxl: so, show us that in #flood then
[05:58] <wjesusaxl> and many things got screwed
[05:58] <bob2> also, mentioning all these crucial facts in your question to begin with saves everyone time
[05:58] <wjesusaxl> bob2: show you my "sources.list"
[05:59] <bob2> yes...
[05:59] <kainos> cafuego:how do i detect a diom linux dialtopne from linux box
[05:59] <cafuego> kainos: with a teminal app like minicom
[05:59] <kainos> ic ok ill try
[05:59] <wulfy814> is it possible to put everything (boot and / ) on software RAID1 with sata drives?
[05:59] <cafuego> wulfy814: yes
[06:00] <dennis__> Can someone help me change the default application to open a .torrent file?
[06:00] <wulfy814> cafuego: I just tried with XFS and it barked at installing LILO
[06:00] <kainos> cafuego: is it a command line utility?
[06:00] <cafuego> kainos: indeed
[06:00] <wulfy814> I'm doing it with EXT3 now
[06:00] <wulfy814> on /md0
[06:00] <dennis__> Cafuego can you help?
[06:00] <cafuego> wulfy814: works fine, i've been doing it for years
[06:00] <dracflamloc> hm
[06:00] <dracflamloc> anyone have experience using ndiswrapper with buuntu
[06:01] <dracflamloc> ubuntu*
[06:01] <bob2> ubotu: q is Really, it's easier to just ask your question.
[06:01] <ubotu> bob2: okay
[06:01] <cafuego> dennis__: not running ubuntu atm; probably somwehere in the browse prefs, though
[06:01] <wjesusaxl> http:/paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1570
[06:01] <wulfy814> 2 - 160 gig ( /dev/sda1 - soft raid 158.5 /dev/sda2 - 1.5 swap /dev/sdb1 158.5 soft raid /dev/sdb2 1.5 /tmp
[06:01] <bob2> !+q
[06:01] <ubotu> q is, like, Really, it's easier to just ask your question.
[06:01] <wulfy814> I'm using the "server" install option
[06:01] <dracflamloc> anyone?
[06:01] <bob2> dracflamloc: guess my sarcasm was too subtle
[06:01] <bob2> dracflamloc: just ask your question
[06:02] <dennis__> bob2 can you help me?
[06:02] <dracflamloc> didnt realize you were addressing me
[06:02] <bimberi> dennis__: right click on a .torrent file, select Properties, then the Open With tab and take it from there
[06:02] <bob2> dracflamloc: you appear to be ignoring the suggestions from other people, so no
[06:02] <bob2> bah
[06:02] <bob2> dennis__:
[06:02] <dennis__> Alright
[06:02] <dracflamloc> anyway, what do i need to do to get ndiswrapper to compile
[06:02] <dennis__> Thanks bimberi
[06:02] <cafuego> wulfy814: I would use 2x .5G swap (for a total of 3GB) and use tmpfs for /tmp
[06:02] <bob2> dracflamloc: you don't compile it
[06:02] <bimberi> dennis__: not yet, make sure it works first :)
[06:02] <dennis__> Hehe
[06:02] <dennis__> KK
[06:02] <dracflamloc> you dont need to make and make install?
[06:02] <bob2> dracflamloc: you install the ndiswrapper-utils package
[06:02] <bob2> dracflamloc: correct
[06:03] <titaniululz> haha, i'm trying to follow the setting up samba wiki guide and i got to the point of smbmount //server/share /mountpoint. it 'worked' but when i try to ls the mountpoint i get permission denied, and i can't remove the mountpoint now either. good grief, what have i done
[06:03] <wulfy814> cafuego: RAID the swap?
[06:03] <dracflamloc> ah ok
[06:03] <dracflamloc> nm then =P
[06:03] <wulfy814> or just put partition on each
[06:03] <bob2> titaniululz: sudo umount /mountpoint
[06:03] <bob2> wjesusaxl: that's presumably missing all the other oens ytou added
[06:03] <cafuego> wulfy814: No, 2 x 1.5GB non-raid swap
[06:03] <titaniululz> bob2: ah thanks, i tried smbumout and it kept giving me permission denied. thanks
[06:04] <cafuego> wulfy814: and stuff in /tmp will be swapped out to that anyway; so you can keep the drives INDENTIAL.
[06:04] <cafuego> +C
[06:04] <wulfy814> cafuego: ok, that's what I thought.
[06:04] <glick> hmm so thunderbird is alot better than evolution eh?
[06:04] <wulfy814> got you
[06:04] <wulfy814> cafuego, it worked fine for ext3
[06:04] <wulfy814> xfs didn't
[06:05] <cafuego> wulfy814: don't use xfs
[06:05] <titaniululz> not sure why i can't get smbmount to work... i can browse fine inside nautilus but i get hammered with permission denied when i try anything from terminal
[06:05] <cafuego> wulfy814: raid1 implies data security, xfs does not.
[06:05] <glick> i wish gnome had somehting comparable to kontact
[06:05] <bob2> titaniululz: of course
[06:05] <glick> gontact
[06:05] <kainos> cafuego: wat now after typing the comman minicom...it says initialising modem...but its all blank after dat
[06:05] <bob2> titaniululz: pass it the umask=000 options (you'll need to read the manpage to find out how)
[06:06] <wulfy814> cafuego: I was going to use XFS because of xfsdump
[06:06] <wulfy814> cafuego: this is to be a backuppc box
[06:06] <wjesusaxl> bob2: can't understand what you say
[06:06] <titaniululz> pass smbmount that option?
[06:06] <cafuego> kainos: pen the correct modem device (/dev/ttySOMETHING)
[06:06] <cafuego> wulfy814: rsync is your friend
[06:06] <wulfy814> wanted to be able to "image" the RAID to an external drive (USB2)
[06:06] <bob2> wjesusaxl: nevermind then
[06:06] <cafuego> kainos: then send it 'AT' and see if it responds
[06:06] <wulfy814> cafuego: rsync and large backuppc stores aren't are they?  backuppc relies heavily on hardlinks
[06:07] <svn> hello
[06:07] <wulfy814> cafuego: data store will be approx 120g
[06:07] <svn> speak anyone german, because i can't explain my problem in english :(
[06:07] <cafuego> !de
[06:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[06:07] <svn> !de
[06:08] <svn> !de
[06:08] <adriyel> wtf?
[06:08] <cafuego> man kann dich auf #ubuntu-de auf deutsch hilfen
[06:08] <svn> danke
[06:08] <svn> bin neu in der sache hier
[06:08] <cafuego> :-)
[06:09] <wulfy814> cafuego: no comment on the backuppc data?  rsync would prolly take forever on a data store of 100+ gig
[06:09] <wulfy814> cafuego: maybe "dd" instead?
[06:10] <wulfy814> as long as my external volume is larger than the main store
[06:10] <wulfy814> or I suppose could just intentionally break the RAID
[06:10] <cafuego> I've never used backuppc; I use rsync myself to mirror a remote box to a local backup archive; the first time takes a while; after that is't a few minutes tops per run.
[06:11] <titaniululz> bob2, awesome it works :) thank you
[06:11] <wulfy814> cafuego: you should check out backuppc - great software
[06:11] <dracflamloc> if ndiswrapper reports that the driver is present and the hardware is present, why wouldnt wlan0 show up?
[06:11] <wulfy814> thank you for your assistance
[06:12] <cafuego> wulfy814: Nah,. too late, current solution is automated and working fine. No need to break it :-)
[06:12] <Logi_> anyone know how to enable "AllowOverride" for apache2?
[06:12] <Logi_> i can't seem to get it to work
[06:13] <cafuego> Logi_: Set AlowOverride (All|List of allowed options) on the DocumentRoot.
[06:13] <cafuego> Logi_: as in: <Directory /foo> \ AllowOverride All \ </Directory>
[06:13] <Logi_> i did that...
[06:13] <svn`ubuntu> where i can find the energiemenu for the hdd... after the installation the hdd sleep every 1-2 minutes why :(
[06:13] <adriyel> foo bar...lol
[06:13] <Logi_> then restarted apache.. and it didnt work
[06:13] <cafuego> restart apache2, make sure .htaccess isn't overriding it
[06:14] <Logi_> <Directory /var/www> \ AllowOverride All \ </Directory> correct?
[06:14] <cafuego> Logi_: \ is a newlin
[06:14] <Logi_> right
[06:15] <titaniululz> bob2, time for some sleep. thanks for all your help tonight, you saved me hours of frustration
[06:16] <sako75> hey pplz i have an error ive just installed ubuntu on a seperate partition on my hdd from xp and wen i boot xp thru grub bootloader its comes up wid an error sayin "xmt2002 program not found - skipping autocheck, autochk program not found - skipping autocheck" can any1 help me?
[06:16] <robotgeek> breezy works very nice now :)
[06:17] <Logi_> yeah.. didnt work
[06:17] <robotgeek> no network manager love though :(
[06:18] <Logi_> cause i did "Options -Indexex" in the .htaccess in /var/www and it still allows it
[06:18] <cafuego> Logi_: What is it doing, saying a certain Option cannot be set from .htaccess?
[06:18] <cafuego> Logi_: Indexes or Indexex ?
[06:18] <Logi_> no... it just flat out es*
[06:18] <Logi_> typo here, not in file
[06:18] <robotgeek> libcairo depedency problems
[06:18] <Logi_> or else it would 500
[06:19] <cafuego> The right modules loaded?
[06:19] <Logi_> oh crap..
[06:19] <Logi_> what needs to be loaded
[06:19] <svn`ubuntu> nobody knows?
[06:20] <el_toro> robotgeek:  NetworkManager from cvs works fine
[06:20] <sako75> any got any ideas on my question
[06:20] <robotgeek> el_toro: on ppc too?
[06:21] <el_toro> robotgeek:  ymmv
[06:21] <robotgeek> el_toro: :)
[06:21] <TraceGreen> Hello, if my vga set to 640x480, can i have bootsplash when booting?
[06:22] <La_PaRCa> whats a good windows python interpreter?
[06:22] <sartas> i cant start Amarok: first it told me to see if dcopserver is running.. and then it said something about that it couldnt load kde thingies
[06:22] <sartas> what to do?
[06:22] <cafuego> what's a good windows channel?
[06:22] <robotgeek> el_toro: i am trying from cvs now, thanks
[06:23] <sartas> help me!
[06:23] <Seveas> La_PaRCa, the official python interpreter....
[06:23] <Milk> good evening!
[06:23] <Seveas> evening?
[06:23] <billytwowilly> how do I find out what is in my path?
[06:23] <Seveas> it's friggen 6:23 am :)
[06:23] <bimberi> :)
[06:23] <Seveas> billytwowilly, echo $PATH
[06:23] <Tripp> Hello
[06:23] <sartas> i cant start Amarok: first it told me to see if dcopserver is running.. and then it said something about that it couldnt load kde thingies
[06:23] <adriyel> its 12:23am here
[06:23] <ixiz> morning
[06:23] <cafuego> Seveas: with the waking hours you keep, i doubt it matters ;-)
[06:23] <robotgeek> it's 11:14 am here!
[06:23] <Seveas> hehehehe
[06:24] <ixiz> and it's 6:24 am here :P
[06:24] <cafuego> Anyway. it's 14:24 where it matters
[06:24] <Milk> I'm trying to setup samba using the wiki guide, but I don't have a "Windows Networking" section.. can anyone point me in the right direction
[06:24] <cafuego> robotgeek: Your cpu clock is out of sync
[06:24] <bimberi> cafuego: indeed!
[06:24] <el_toro> robotgeek:  let me know how it goes
[06:24] <sartas> i cant start Amarok: first it told me to see if dcopserver is running.. and then it said something about that it couldnt load kde thingies
[06:24] <robotgeek> el_toro: sure
[06:24] <sartas> help me!
[06:24] <Milk> sartas.. whats your problem?
[06:25] <sartas> Milk: i cant start Amarok: first it told me to see if dcopserver is running.. and then it said something about that it couldnt load kde thingies
[06:25] <sartas> and Juk says the same thing
[06:25] <robotgeek> cafuego: it does that every time i sleep my laptop!
[06:25] <Tripp> Does anyone know install pengaol on Ubuntu, i'm new to linux.  I'm used to windows shitty .exe setup.
[06:25] <Milk> what kde thingies?
[06:25] <black13> after you do make-kpkg what next next?
[06:25] <svn`ubuntu> where is the menu for the hdd sleep mode ?
[06:25] <cafuego> robotgeek: ntpdate in a cron
[06:26] <glick> Tripp, exe setups arnt that bad
[06:26] <Milk> can anyone help me with samba via the gui?
[06:26] <robotgeek> cafuego: more like ntpdate when i connect to the network, i do it with a script anyways
[06:26] <Milk> Tripp.. have you tried apt-get install pengaol?
[06:26] <cafuego> robotgeek: from ip-up.d - yeah, that works.
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Milk,  help with what aspect of samba?
[06:26] <Tripp> Well, I know, i'm running windows on this computer, but I installed it on my laptop.
[06:26] <glick> what is pengaol?
[06:27] <Tripp> Try what, i'm sorry?
[06:27] <robotgeek> :)
[06:27] <sartas> Milk: I dont remeber, and now it wont even open Juk or Amarok
[06:27] <Milk> Dr_Willis, I'm trying to get shares setup using the wiki guide via the networking gui.. but I don't have options for windows networking
[06:27] <KrispyKringle> So I'm thinking of switching to either Debian or Ubuntu--I'm tired of building my software all from source--and I'm curious; between Debian Testing and Ubuntu, I don't see many differences in packages, etc. Why should I use Ubuntu over Debian Testing?
[06:27] <Milk> sartas without knowing what it wants, its near impossible to tell
[06:27] <Milk> Tripp... on a command line, type   apt-get install pengaol
[06:28] <sartas> Milk: but.. i cant boot it at all T_T
[06:28] <Tripp> Ok, one sec.
[06:28] <Milk> sartas, you got errors once....
[06:28] <Milk> sartas, are you trying via CLI?
[06:29] <robotgeek> KrispyKringle: ubuntu just works, mostly :)
[06:29] <Seveas> KrispyKringle, more freqeunt releases, more resent packages, 18 month security support, better community :)
[06:29] <Seveas> s/resent/recent/
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Milk,  hmm... i cant actually recall using the gui. im not even sure that the samba servers are installed by default.
[06:29] <Seveas> and indeed, Ubuntu Just Works :)
[06:29] <sartas> Milk: i tried with rythmbox know. the sound in my headphones are totally changed to.. i cant hear a song in them..
[06:29] <sartas> ..
[06:29] <Milk> Dr_Willis, I used apt-get to install samba
[06:30] <robotgeek> el_toro: can i msg you with a question?
[06:30] <el_toro> robotgeek:  sure
[06:30] <sartas> Milk: the sound is gone..
[06:30] <sartas> man..
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Milk,  did you start the service? did ya do a 'smbpasswd -a USERNAME' for your users?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> then restart the service :P
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> thats about all i can rember doing last time.
[06:31] <Milk> hrm... it gave an error.. can't load /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:31] <KrispyKringle> robotgeek: I never had many problems with Debian, to be fair. ;)
[06:31] <Milk> whats the command to restart samba?
[06:31] <KrispyKringle> Seveas: that was always my main complaint with Debian, though. The slow updates. Unstable and Testing largely avoid that, but even so, that is what atracts me to ubuntu.
[06:31] <KrispyKringle> Thanks. :)
[06:32] <sartas> GRR!! It cant make a pipeline with AlSA, ESD, and OSS
[06:32] <sartas> whats wrong!!
[06:32] <Logi_> anyone know how to enable "AllowOverride" for apache2?.... i still can't get it to work
[06:32] <\dev\goat> sartas, you need to install amarok-xine
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> i always ise /etc/init.d/samba restart   - same as any other service :P
[06:32] <Tripp> Um, it just tells me could not open lock file, are you root?
[06:32] <\dev\goat> from synaptic
[06:33] <Milk> hehe
[06:33] <Tripp> I have no idea, what that means.
[06:33] <Milk> Tripp, are you logged in as root, or are you sudo as root?
[06:33] <sartas> \dev\goat: but i lissened to musik the whole day yesterday, whats changed??
[06:33] <billytwowilly> when a command line prog tells you to type ^q to quit what does it want me to push? ^q doesn't actually work when typed...
[06:33] <_frank> ctrl
[06:33] <_frank> ctrl-q
[06:33] <Milk> Dr_Willis, its not starting
[06:34] <billytwowilly> _frank: thanks
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Milk,  then whats it doing dare i ask.. :P
[06:34] <Milk> Dr_Willis not sure, its failing.. checking the logs now
[06:34] <Milk> empty section name in configuration
[06:35] <Milk> hrm..
[06:35] <Milk> I'm going to try dpkg-reconfigure
[06:35] <Tripp> How do you know?
[06:35] <LoneFreak> ok, this question may be stupid but yea. When i'm browsing through folders i like the window maximized, but it keeps minimizing?? is there anyway to stop this
[06:35] <cyphase> are their any background cycling applications in ubuntu?
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Milk,  ya could just edit the samba config manually :P
[06:35] <Seveas> Tripp, if you open synaptic, close aptitude and all other things using apt
[06:35] <cyphase> so you can have a different background every da, hour, etc
[06:35] <cyphase> day*
[06:36] <Milk> Tripp, in the CLI, type su
[06:36] <Milk> Dr_Willis, my brain isn't up to manual tonight
[06:36] <Seveas> Milk, ubuntu uses sudo - by default there is no root password
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Milk,  its one of the most trivial config files out. :P   in fact i think the default is 90# commants..
[06:37] <Milk> Seveas, I'm aware, but it would give him a prompt
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Milk,  the book (online) of 'using samba' is dang handy also. to read when ya got the time
[06:37] <Seveas> Milk, not without a root password :)
[06:37] <Milk> Dr_Willis, I will, thanks!
[06:37] <Tripp> You mean Syntaptic package manager, right?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> having a root prompt - is the kind of secuity 'issue' that this disrto tries to avoid. :P
[06:37] <Milk> Seveas, default user password worked for me, untill I set a root password.. but regardless
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> lol
[06:37] <\dev\goat> fglrx is so much fun to troubleshoot
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> \dev\goat,  heh - i cant even do that - this ati x200 isent supported by it.
[06:38] <Milk> hrm.. Dr_Willis.. even after remove/install, its showing an error with the printcap file
[06:38] <\dev\goat> >< my r9600p might as well not be supported, as much of a pain in the ass to get working as it is
[06:38] <Ice9> why is ubuntu detecting that I have a radeon 9200 when I have a radeon 9250?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> printcap ? Hmm  perahps its confused by you not hving a printer set up right.. no clue really there.  comment out the samba printer section and restart the service
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Ice9,  becaise from a chipset point of view the 2 are identical perhaps?
[06:40] <Ice9> oh
[06:40] <Ice9> why doesn't 3d acceleration work? I did what the guide said
[06:40] <ixiz> I have a Radeon 9200 but it is recognized as a Radeon 9000 too
[06:40] <geneo93> or you where sold a 9200 for a 9250
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Ice9,  did you restart X totally?
[06:40] <Tripp> I'm not sure synaptic what, package manager?  The top of the terminal says home then my name, does that tell weither or not i'm root?
[06:40] <JumpManJr>  bob2 installation will not complete no matter what I do.
[06:40] <Ice9> Dr_willis yes
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> time to check the logs  and learn the JOY of fighting with ATI.. :( ive spent many an hr doing it.
[06:41] <JumpManJr> I get a failure on step of copy remaining packages to hard drive.  When I go back and select that from the list it says I need 400 meg more in /var even with it on the second drive.
[06:42] <shamus> I need something to play wav files, when I try and play an audio cd, it recognizes them as wavs and won;t play
[06:42] <dennis__> shamus
[06:42] <shamus> well, i have xmms but it gives me no sound
[06:42] <dennis__> Rythmnbox?
[06:42] <kevman> I had no trouble getting ATI's drivers installed...
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> i had very little problems with my ATI9700 last time i used it. took me all of 3 min to get it working right.
[06:42] <Milk> well.. its bed time
[06:42] <Milk> thanks for the help
[06:43] <Ice9> how reassuring lol
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> but ive also found that the mb's chipset/agp stuff CAN be the problem. (on another box i never did get the ati to work right)
[06:43] <\dev\goat> heh only took a couple mins to get 3d acceleration the first time, being a bitch on this fresh install tho
[06:43] <nate_> I should use MPLAYER as an alternitive to Windows Media Player when watching music videos on the internet, right?
[06:43] <JumpManJr> Sigh... I guess bob2 isn't around anymore.
[06:43] <JumpManJr> Anyone else have any ideas?
[06:44] <sartas> hey! my comp stopped playing music this morning,, the AUX channel on my stereo sounds really wrong.. and ALSA cant make a pipeline. OSS and ESD can, but i dont hear anything...
[06:44] <mae> Hi, I just installed breezy colony-3 .. i am having an issue, i loaded my old config from hoary for xorg.conf.. and i am getting a strange thing "keyboard" driver not found..
[06:44] <HrdwrBoB> mae: yeah the keyboard driver changed
[06:44] <sartas> please, i need my sound to work..
[06:44] <mae> HrdwrBoB: whats the new name?
[06:45] <HrdwrBoB> mae: IIRC if you comment our that line it'll auto load the right one
[06:45] <mae> HrdwrBoB: thanks
[06:45] <Madpilot> hi everyone
[06:45] <sartas> please..
[06:45] <sartas> anyon, help me!
[06:45] <sartas> "hey! my comp stopped playing music this morning,, the AUX channel on my stereo sounds really wrong.. and ALSA cant make a pipeline. OSS and ESD can, but i dont hear anything..."
[06:46] <sartas> i need help...
[06:46] <mae> HrdwrBoB: when i comment out that now i get same thing lol, driver not found "keyboard"
[06:46] <HrdwrBoB> heh
[06:47] <Tripp> Does anyone know how to install pengaol, i'm new to linux.
[06:47] <el_toro> mae:  afaik the new driver is kbd--can someone else back me up?
[06:47] <zoexi> I know my video card/monitor combo is capable of 1280x1024 (I saw it happen in windows),  I check my xorg.conf file and see that it is listed as a mode in the display section.  However, it is not an option when I go to system>preferences>screen resolution.  It only lists up to 1024x768.  Any idea as to what doesn't work?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Tripp,  try 'sudo apt-get install pengaol' yet?
[06:48] <mae> el_toro: let me try that
[06:49] <Gues10000> hi
[06:49] <carlos> holas
[06:49] <Gues10000> i need help with ubunutu linux which i just installed
[06:49] <sartas> Please help me, my sound is gone, its just some crunching sound!
[06:49] <sartas> i need it to work!
[06:49] <sartas> please help me, someone..
[06:49] <Gues10000> is anyone having trouble inserting username and password
[06:50] <Gues10000> but i cant even type it when installing
[06:50] <sartas> what the fuck is wrong with UBUNTU!!
[06:51] <sartas> now it closed firefox on its own.. and i didnt do anytjing..
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> sartas,  ive have had very little probmes wth it. :P   lol
[06:51] <sartas> and it changes my bakground on its own
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> sartas,  perhaps it hates you?
[06:51] <bimberi> !tell zoexi about resolution
[06:51] <sartas> and it cant play my music,
[06:51] <sartas> but it was playing it totaly fine yesterday
[06:51] <Madpilot> hmmm... good reasons to have a powerful computer with lots of spare CPU cycles: http://xpenguins.seul.org/  ;)
[06:51] <sartas> i want a computer that works..
[06:52] <sartas> gr...
[06:52] <\dev\goat> omg finally i can have penguins walking all over my desktop
[06:52] <\dev\goat> how did i live before this
[06:53] <black13> what are the steps to rebuild the kernel?
[06:53] <EasterSunshine> does anyone know the correct umask to set to allow drwxrwxrwx ?
[06:53] <Madpilot> \dev\goat: it's even in Ubuntu's repositories, that's how I discovered it... ;)
[06:53] <black13> or build a new kernel
[06:53] <sartas> ubuntu sucks!!
[06:53] <sartas> ...
[06:53] <dracflamloc> i'm trying to use ndiswrapper to load a netgear usb MA111 card. the driver loads and shows as hardware present, but i cant configure wlan0?
[06:53] <adriyel> madpilot , fsck /dev/goat
[06:53] <benplaut> how can i connect a linux/ubuntu machine to a network so that on login your roaming profile is used?
[06:54] <benplaut> for that matter, how can i set it up to login to the network?
[06:54] <dbernar1> hi
[06:54] <dbernar1> !fixres
[06:54] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:55] <bimberi> !tell black13 about kernelcompile
[06:55] <sartas> please help me..
[06:55] <sartas> Please help me, my sound is gone, its just some crunching sound!
[06:55] <sew3521> I need to access my windows partition of my harddrive someone pointed me to a script that automaticly mounted any windows/mac partitions...anyone here know what that script is called...or where i could look?
[06:55] <Seveas> sartas, whining and ranting is a good way to get ignored, just like repeating
[06:55] <sartas> yea..
[06:55] <Seveas> sew3521: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[06:55] <sartas> i know
[06:55] <sew3521> hey Serveas...thanks!  your the one who helped me before
[06:55] <Seveas> hehe
[06:56] <sartas> but hell.. someone arent going to help me anyway, or people just dont know how..
[06:56] <mae> kbd didn't work either
[06:56] <sartas> and i havent got anything other to do
[06:56] <Seveas> sartas, we cannot know how, you did not provide ANY information...
[06:56] <bimberi> hehe - "/faq..."
[06:56] <linuxpoet> benplaut: which network are you trying to connect to? SMB? Ldap? Kerberos? Remote Pam?
[06:56] <sartas> long up there i did (points up)
[06:56] <geneo93> sartas:  maybe turn off pnp in bios
[06:56] <sartas> geneo93: how do i do that? :)
[06:57] <benplaut> linuxpoet, not quite sure... it's a windows server, set up so that the windows computers can be logged into from any of the clients, and settings & files are broaght along with them
[06:57] <geneo93> well if you dont know that i cant help you
[06:57] <benplaut> nobody seems to know what the type of network is called
[06:57] <benplaut> i think it's with samba, though
[06:57] <punkass> ok i am trying to make my laptop (Acer 4101) do 1280x800..and i am not having much luck
[06:57] <sartas> geneo93: i think i know how.. im gonna try it
[06:58] <punkass> I am using the updated 915resolution and the gnome resolution tool actually says its 1280 but what it does is make the screen bigger then the actual montior
[06:58] <punkass> any ideas??
[06:58] <punkass> so i have to actually use my mouse to slide the desktop around to see it all
[06:59] <sartas> seveas: i started my computer a hour ago, and it told me that dcopserver maybe wasnt running (and i dont know howto check that), and the music was all chrunchy. i checked all the cable, nothing happened. on my stereo i switched from AUX to cd and the sound was fine there..
[06:59] <sartas> Seveas: so it is the computers fault
[06:59] <Seveas> sartas, reboot the thing to get dcop running
[07:00] <sartas> Seveas: i tried to change the sound engine, i had OSS running, usually i have ESD, i tested them but it couldnt make a test pipeline. ive rebooted 3 times now
[07:00] <Seveas> if you use kde, then esd is pointless
[07:00] <sartas> im gonna try geneos tips
[07:00] <Seveas> kde has arts
[07:00] <aru> what do I do with a .sh file?
[07:00] <sartas> im using gnome
[07:00] <Seveas> dcop is kde crud
[07:00] <sartas> okay?
[07:01] <Seveas> so that error is very suspicious if you use gnome
[07:01] <sartas> can i manually make it running?
[07:01] <sartas> but im using amarok
[07:01] <Seveas> ah, ok
[07:01] <sartas> thats running on a kde engine, right?
[07:01] <Seveas> yes
[07:01] <sartas> however, beep, rythmbox, xmms cant play sounds at all too
[07:01] <Seveas> you need to ask a kde user, I refuse to use it so i cannot help you with amarok
[07:01] <sartas> okay..
[07:02] <robotgeek> Seveas: :)
[07:02] <sartas> man..
[07:02] <sartas> im gonna try geneos tips, ill be back
[07:02] <durt> use alsa
[07:02] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: you are always against ubuntuguide cause it doesn't let you know what you are exaclty doing, then why suggest the winmc mounting script thingy?
[07:02] <benplaut> what do you guys recommend for pen-testing livecds?
[07:03] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: i just spent two hours helping someone mount a vfat partition with rwxrwxrwx, and i learned a whole lot
[07:03] <Madpilot> EasterSunshine: how about writing that up in the wiki? (seriously...!)
[07:03] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, good question but allow me to answer it in a few hours - gotta run now
[07:03] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: as opposed to using the script, it reminds me of something from ubuntuguide
[07:03] <mae> argh i'm gonna try updating
[07:03] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: okay, see ya later
[07:04] <La_PaRCa> um... isnt gajim supposed to be in hoary universe now?
[07:05] <el_toro> mae: what error are you getting?
[07:06] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> IH
[07:07] <dolfo> IH
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <La_PaRCa> um... isnt gajim supposed to be in hoary universe now?
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <bimberi> dolfo: please stop that
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <bimberi> !ops
[07:07] <Madpilot> !ops
[07:07] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <zealot> does anyone know how can I make a slave hard drive just mounted at /mnt/slave into an icon in the gui in "places"?
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:07] <dolfo> HI
[07:08] <dolfo> HI
[07:08] <dolfo> OK
[07:08] <el_toro> La_PaRCa:  yes, afaik
[07:08] <Madpilot> La_PaRCa: it doesn't seem to be - I saw someone's blog post about it, though...
[07:08] <mdz_> dolfo: are you finished?
[07:08] <el_toro> Madpilot:  it's there for me
[07:08] <La_PaRCa> Madpilot, thats why I am asking. Maybe its just in for Breezy universe?
[07:09] <La_PaRCa> el_toro, its probably in backports then
[07:09] <el_toro> La_PaRCa: ah, sorry i'm running Breezy
[07:09] <dolfo> HEV BRAZILEIRO
[07:09] <el_toro> silly me.
[07:09] <EasterSunshine> why is dolfo still here...
[07:09] <La_PaRCa> el_toro, ah... yeah, thats why
[07:10] <Madpilot> el_toro: ah, OK. Hoary user here, and I just tried updating Synaptic, too. No gajim
[07:10] <benplaut> ubotu tell dolfo about br
[07:10] <benplaut> woops
[07:10] <benplaut> wrong one
[07:10] <zealot> does anyone know how can I make a slave hard drive just mounted at /mnt/slave into an icon in the gui in "places"?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> hmm - ive never noticed where the 'places' stuff comes from. :P
[07:10] <Hmmmm> anyone using e17 out here?
[07:11] <zealot> dr_willis, how about an icon in the desktop?
[07:11] <el_toro> Madpilot:  i think you could compile from source if you really wanted to--the depends don't look too bad
[07:11] <dolfo> I`M BRAZILIAN MY INGLESH IS NOT VERY GOOD
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> zealot,  that should be fairly trivial.  just make a link from where its mounted perhaps.
[07:11] <EasterSunshine> zealot: ln -s /mnt/slave ~/Desktop/Slave
[07:11] <Madpilot> el_toro: I'm not really that interested, just curious
[07:11] <EasterSunshine> zealot: i think that will make a link on the desktop, unless i mde a small little error, someone please catch it if i did
[07:12] <EasterSunshine> dolfo: damn stragiht your english is not good...
[07:12] <EasterSunshine> do they speak spanish is brazil?
[07:12] <el_toro> EasterSunshine:  portuguese..
[07:12] <bimberi> portugese
[07:12] <zealot> that did it
[07:12] <zealot> that created a link to the slave, as a folder... wish some day i'll have it as a drive, heheheh
[07:12] <ixiz> I have an Intel Pentium M processor in my laptop (Centrino), which mplayer package should I choose to install then?
[07:13] <ixiz> is that the i686 og i386
[07:13] <zealot> thanks EasterSunshine, you helped me a bunch today
[07:13] <ixiz> or 586
[07:13] <jesper> ixiz: i686
[07:13] <EasterSunshine> refer him to ubuntu's protugese channel if you think they'll be able to handle him
[07:13] <Madpilot> zealot: I think everything's a folder/file in Linux - no drives like Windows designates
[07:13] <EasterSunshine> zealot: np :)
[07:13] <zealot> :)
[07:13] <simon__> very new to ubuntu
[07:13] <EasterSunshine> Madpilot: there are more than folders and files
[07:13] <simon__> need help
[07:13] <EasterSunshine> Madpilot: softlinks, hardlinks, mount points, devices
[07:14] <La_PaRCa> simon__, state you age, sex and problem
[07:14] <simon__> i just want to play the music off my memory stick
[07:14] <simon__> 20,  male
[07:14] <La_PaRCa> xD
[07:14] <Madpilot> EasterSunshine: true enough, but no drives like Windows designates as a seperate thing, AFAIK
[07:14] <simon__> can you help?
[07:14] <La_PaRCa> simon__, um... state your problem I guess
[07:14] <zealot> goodnight fellas... thanks for all your help. i'll see you tomorrow
[07:15] <HrdwrBoB> !ask
[07:15] <La_PaRCa> sex/age should be channel policy xD
[07:15] <EasterSunshine> Madpilot: what is afaik?
[07:15] <simon__> i would like to play music off of my USB port memory stick
[07:15] <dolfo> NO THANKS ,DO YOU SPEAK ANOTHER LENGUAGE
[07:15] <La_PaRCa> !afaik
[07:15] <ubotu> La_PaRCa: No idea
[07:15] <Madpilot> EasterSunshine: As Far As I Know
[07:15] <simon__> but the musicbox player wont let me put my mp3's in the library
[07:15] <La_PaRCa> ubotu afaik is As Far As I Know
[07:15] <ubotu> La_PaRCa: okay
[07:15] <EasterSunshine> ah yse i remember now
[07:15] <La_PaRCa> ubotu tell simon about RestrictedFormats
[07:15] <Madpilot> simon__: do you have mp3 codecs added?
[07:16] <simon__> no how do i get them?
[07:16] <EasterSunshine> oh no dolfo pmed me =/
[07:16] <Poromies> anyone have any KDE ftp-clients to recommend?
[07:16] <La_PaRCa> ubotu tell simon__ about codecs
[07:16] <benplaut> dolfo: other languages go in there specific channels
[07:16] <benplaut> and lower your caps lock
[07:16] <ixiz> and one last question which I can't find on google either: i get an error in rhytmbox when trying to open a .pls on shoutcast.com it says: 'There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type aduio/mpeg'
[07:17] <adriyel> hunger...
[07:17] <ixiz> I guess need a special package with somekind of mpeg support
[07:17] <ixiz> but what is it called?
[07:17] <deFrysk> gstreamer08-mad
[07:17] <deFrysk> or something
[07:17] <benplaut> !mpeg
[07:17] <ubotu> Wish i knew, benplaut
[07:17] <benplaut> grr
[07:17] <benplaut> !mpg
[07:17] <benplaut> ?
[07:17] <ubotu> benplaut: I don't know
[07:17] <ixiz> thank you very much :)
[07:17] <deFrysk> ! restricted formats
[07:17] <ubotu> hmm... restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:18] <benplaut> thanks
[07:18] <deFrysk> look there ixiz
[07:18] <simon__> madpilot:  can you help me figure out this music player problem i am having?
[07:19] <Madpilot> simon__: if it's just mp3 playing you need, see the URLs you've already been sent by ubotu
[07:19] <simon__> ahh
[07:19] <simon__> i c
[07:19] <sartas> geneo93: THANKS LOADS!! The sound is working now!
[07:19] <deFrysk> ubotu, is this rooms bot-brain
[07:19] <ubotu> No idea, deFrysk
[07:19] <sartas> thanks, thanks, thanks!
[07:19] <ixiz> is wiki.ubuntu.com a site where u can find almost anything?
[07:20] <deFrysk> ixiz, yup
[07:20] <ixiz> cause I always get links to that page
[07:20] <ixiz> oh didn't knew :)
[07:20] <geneo93> sartas:  np
[07:20] <ian> what is the best program for ubuntu to detect wifi signals.?
[07:20] <deFrysk> ixiz, also see topic (if anyone ever would)
[07:20] <Madpilot> ixiz: it's the main Ubuntu "manual", sort of.
[07:21] <\dev\goat> xpenguins crashes when they touch the GkrellM window :p
[07:21] <el_toro> ian:  as in a network-manager type thing?
[07:21] <zcat[1] > kismet ?
[07:21] <simon__> where do i find the Synaptic repositories dialog box?
[07:22] <bimberi> simon__: Settings menu
[07:22] <ian> yes... el_toro..
[07:22] <geneo93> simon__:  click setting tab
[07:22] <Madpilot> ubotu tell simon__ about repos
[07:23] <zcat[1] > System / Administration / Synaptic
[07:23] <el_toro> well...if you're runnning hoary i'd say you're out of luck network-manager wise, but if you're running breezy it's pretty easy to install
[07:23] <Madpilot> simon__: the url you were just sent has all the repository information you'll need
[07:23] <zcat[1] > hmm NM
[07:23] <simon__> i dont understand all of the language
[07:23] <ixiz> gosh I didin't know that page :-o
[07:23] <geneo93> ubotu:  is out to lunch
[07:23] <ubotu> geneo93: No idea
[07:23] <ixiz> sorry for all those stupid questions lol
[07:23] <simon__> will keep trying
[07:24] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[07:24] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:25] <zcat[1] > Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[07:25] <zcat[1] > :-(
[07:25] <zcat[1] > Whay's it do that?
[07:25] <Madpilot> simon__: ask here if there's something you don't understand - and some of the wiki pages could be cleaned up, it's true
[07:26] <Poromies> zcat[1] : try downloading that file again, or try it again little later (that could be a corrupt file on the server hosting the repository)
[07:27] <zcat[1] > does it a LOT.. I suspect my ISP's tramsparent proxy is screwing them up..
[07:27] <Poromies> :(
[07:27] <geneo93> zcat[1] :  try apt-get clean then try installing again
[07:27] <sartas> is .txt licensed by microsoft, people?
[07:28] <zcat[1] >  :-) (R)
[07:28] <Madpilot> sartas: that sounds unlikely... but stranger things are possible...
[07:29] <zcat[1] > They're probably applied for a patent already..
[07:29] <sartas> MadPilot: but gedit cant save in txt, right?
[07:29] <Madpilot> sartas: sure it can - at least, mine can...
[07:29] <Madpilot> is it just not adding the .txt file suffix?
[07:29] <sartas> just by putting .txt after the file name?
[07:30] <sartas> okay ^^
[07:30] <geneo93> sartas:  yes if you use sudo
[07:30] <deFrysk> yes
[07:30] <bimberi> :-) (how much to i owe you zcat[1] )
[07:30] <zcat[1] > You owe MS.. they patented emoticons!! FFS!!
[07:30] <Madpilot> geneo93: you don't have to use sudo just to save a .txt...
[07:30] <sartas> okay ^^
[07:30] <bimberi> lol
[07:30] <mrquick> anyone ever seen this problem? uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: Unlink after no-IRQ?
[07:31] <zcat[1] > They probably did it so they can crosslicence with despair.inc who have :-( trademarked..
[07:31] <sartas> geneo93: madpilot is right, no need to sudo
[07:31] <geneo93> Madpilot:  depends where it is
[07:31] <sartas> /home/sartas xD
[07:31] <Madpilot> geneo93: if it's a conf file, then it's not a .txt anyway, and you probably do need sudo
[07:32] <durt> ian: try wifi-radar http://www.bitbuilder.com/wifi_radar/
[07:32] <Madpilot> but if it's just a normal txt file in your own $user directory, there's no need for sudo at all
[07:33] <nate_> When I watch movies in Totem, the sound comes before image, how do I fix this?
[07:33] <ginger> Can anyone help me with USB and Hoary?
[07:33] <nate_> Like you'll hear something before you see it
[07:33] <geneo93> have to go cyas
[07:34] <zcat[1] > problem solved; if I use ftp: instead of http: it works :)
[07:34] <zcat[1] > (at least until my fsckwit ISP miscaches the ftp versions too)
[07:34] <Buuyo^> Hi. Is it possible to upgrade with apt-get to the x64 ubuntu? Want to avoid reinstalling.
[07:35] <ginger> Can anyone help me with USB and Hoary?
[07:35] <durt> nate_: not sure but totem xine seems to work better than totem gs with sound and overall
[07:37] <nate_> apt-get install...? for totem xine.
[07:37] <zcat[1] > totem-xine
[07:37] <nate_> thanks
[07:37] <drew> are there any other IM programs aside from Kopete and Gaim?
[07:37] <zcat[1] > apt-cache search helps too :)
[07:38] <zcat[1] > drew: one or two..
[07:38] <glick> yay one page done of my 5 page term paper
[07:38] <ark3qqq> I recently reinstalled Windows; doing that blew away grub. What's a good way to reinstall grub so that I can boot into Hoary again?
[07:38] <glick> damn i hate term papers, isnt there som open source program that writes them for you
[07:38] <drew> acat[1]  what are they?
[07:38] <esc> how do you open .package files? I have the gaim package file and for some reason it tries to open with gedit. any ideas?
[07:39] <zcat[1] > cant remember, but there's lots. jabber/gabber is good.
[07:39] <durt> esc: you have to make it executable
[07:40] <nate_> does it replace the old totem?
[07:40] <esc> durt how do I do that?
[07:40] <durt> esc: sudo chmod a+x whater.package
[07:40] <durt> nate_, yes
[07:41] <nate_> ok thanks :D
[07:41] <drew> zcat[1]   what are those IM programs called?
[07:42] <Madpilot> ark3qqq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:42] <aru> whats aclocal?
[07:42] <esc> thanks durt
[07:42] <esc> working now
[07:42] <zcat[1] > apt-cache search " im " will give you some
[07:42] <drew> k thanks
[07:42] <ark3qqq> Madpilot: Thanks much.
[07:44] <mrquick> does anyone know how I can go about assigning a device a specific irq within linux or in hotplug?
[07:46] <zcat[1] > brb, I hope..
[07:49] <javier_> hi, can anyone help me , how do i see the windows hard disk on my computer from ubuntu? its the first time that i put this s.o. on my computer
[07:50] <AndieB> Hi there!
[07:50] <AndieB> I have a question (newbie).
[07:51] <AndieB> I downloaded a DEBIAN package. How do I install it?
[07:51] <deleric> quit
[07:52] <NoUse> dpkg -i file.deb
[07:52] <iiiears> sudo dpkg -i <my.deb>
[07:53] <javier_> hi there!
[07:53] <ubuntu> yea
[07:53] <ubuntu> where u from
[07:53] <DekaPink> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1564 This happens when gmplayer finishes playing a file... and it'll just close... Is there anyway to stop that?
[07:54] <javier_> can anyone helpme to see the windows hard disk from ubuntu? i need to see some files from windows
[07:54] <javier_> (newbie)
[07:54] <ubuntu> is it in ntfs or fat31
[07:54] <ubuntu> sory fat32
[07:54] <iiiears> javier - winmac_fstab
[07:55] <javier_> its a SATA0  disk
[07:55] <iiiears> ubotu winmac_fstab
[07:55] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, iiiears
[07:55] <Pimpachu> How do I start SSH server on Ubuntu
[07:55] <iiiears> ubotu ntfs
[07:55] <\dev\goat`work> http://www.linuxforum.com/linux_tutorials/1/1.php
[07:55] <iiiears> somebody said ntfs was the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[07:55] <\dev\goat`work> afk really this time~
[07:55] <DekaPink> Anyone know what's going on with my mplayer up there, then? :)
[07:56] <javier_> thanks  iiiears, i will try .
[07:56] <iiiears> ubotu ssh
[07:56] <ubotu> I heard ssh is "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto/"
[07:56] <orlok> Hmm.
[07:56] <ubuntu> can any one help me abt gateserver in linux
[07:56] <orlok> i just changed motherboards
[07:56] <orlok> now X doesnt work :-\
[07:57] <ubuntu> plz it's emergency
[07:57] <orlok> well, not properly.
[07:58] <benplaut> w00t!
[07:58] <benplaut> google talk is out!
[07:58] <iiiears> gateserver?? - connection sharing using ubuntu linux connected to the net and forwarding packets to other machines behind it?
[07:59] <simonvallore_> hello
[07:59] <simonvallore_> COuld some one help me compile netcat
[07:59] <iiiears> ubotu connectionsharing
[07:59] <ubotu> iiiears: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:59] <cyphase> benplaut, what's so special about it?
[07:59] <cyphase> really..
[07:59] <levander`> I'm trying to set up my mail client to access gmail via pop.  Anybody know if the gmail pop server is just down?
[07:59] <x3ndou> Aha
[07:59] <x3ndou> I don't believe so
[07:59] <cyphase> i can think of a few things that might be different then other IM systems, but..
[08:00] <benplaut> it'll give jabber alot moer popularity
[08:00] <upgrdman> what daemon is responsible for gamin_server? i dont see a listing for it inside /etc/init.d/
[08:00] <nalioth> levander`: have you set your client up to jump thru googles hoops?
[08:00] <NoUse> benplaut I'll be happy when it supports jabber-to-jabber connectivity
[08:00] <cyphase> benplaut, people won't care about the protocol
[08:00] <x3ndou> I just set up vmware workstation and it's having trouble setting up the internet stuff
[08:00] <NoUse> benplaut until then, Its nothing special
[08:00] <simonvallore_> COuld some one help me compile netcat
[08:00] <simonvallore_> COuld some one help me compile netcat
[08:00] <x3ndou> It's not finding what it's looking for in /dev
[08:00] <levander`> nalioth: hoops?  I'm trying to use fetchmail to login to pop.gmail.com with my username and password is all
[08:00] <benplaut> NoUse, oh, i didn't know it didn't///
[08:00] <cyphase> all the IM systems could use jabber, and they'd still be known as MSN, Aim, and Yahoo
[08:00] <levander`> nalioth: 'telnet pop.gmail.com' times out here.
[08:00] <cyphase> normal people don't care about the protocol
[08:00] <nalioth> levander`: gmail requires TLS
[08:00] <NoUse> benplaut you can't im anyone outside of talk.google.com
[08:01] <levander`> nalioth: you know if fetchmail supports TLS?
[08:01] <benplaut> NoUse, oh... well, it's still pretty cool 8)
[08:01] <crimsun_> levander, it does
[08:01] <NoUse> cyphase not really, if they all used jabber, you wouldn't need a separate login for each
[08:01] <cyphase> benplaut, why though?
[08:01] <nalioth> levander`: not sure about fetchmail, i leave tbird runnin all the time
[08:02] <cyphase> NoUse, that's beside the point
[08:02] <DekaPink> Huh... gmplayer doesn't seem to be erroring anymore and I didn't do anything. Go team me.
[08:02] <floo> can anyone tell me which program is good for webcam chat?
[08:02] <NoUse> cyphase not for me, I'd love that
[08:02] <levander`> nalioth: 'telnet pop.gmail.com 25' always fails, or is it just failing now?  That's usually how I check to see if a mailserver is up and running.  Although now that I think about it, that's the sendmail port, not the pop port.  What's the pop port?
[08:02] <ginger> okay, the reason i'm asking this is that the usb was working in warty on this machine - then i did a clean install of warty - didn't test usb - and upgraded to hoary from apt. i cannot get any signs of usb life - my dmesg is giving me ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI)
[08:02] <cyphase> NoUse, so would I, but it's beside the point i was trying to make
[08:02] <ginger> any help?
[08:02] <benplaut> cyphase, well, it provides an opportunity to get all of my semi-tecky friends to get something other than AIM, Y!M, MSN... jabber is too complex/vaugue for them
[08:03] <benplaut> better google talk than those
[08:03] <nalioth> levander`: log into your gmail account via a web browser, and there's a page there to tell you all the ports, tls requirements and all
[08:03] <upgrdman> what daemon is responsible for gamin_server? i dont see a listing for it inside /etc/init.d/
[08:03] <cyphase> benplaut, google talk uses jabber
[08:03] <benplaut> i know
[08:03] <cyphase> won't it be complex/vague for them then?
[08:03] <benplaut> but it's a helluva lot easier to set up
[08:03] <cyphase> i don't think jabber is complex by the way
[08:03] <benplaut> especially with the google client
[08:03] <cyphase> uhh..
[08:03] <cyphase> why is it easier?
[08:03] <cyphase> because they don't have to type an URL?
[08:03] <crimsun_> upgrdman, do you mean gam_server?
[08:04] <upgrdman> maybe
[08:04] <benplaut> cyphase, pretty much, they're not getting around the thing of jabber being more like email than IM
[08:04] <crimsun_> upgrdman, if so, that's in /usr/lib/gamin/
[08:04] <levander`> nalioth: yeah, i was just looking at the instructions for a regular client to connect.  You know the GUI instructions with the screenshots.  I'll look for that page that's more detailed.
[08:04] <cyphase> "It's like sending an instant email"
[08:04] <cyphase> that's it
[08:04] <cyphase> what's not to get?
[08:04] <cyphase> :)
[08:04] <nalioth> levander`: it's under "other client"
[08:04] <upgrdman> crimsun, ok, but killall -9 gamin_server, and it comes right back... how do i do the equiv. of "/etc/init.d/blah stop"
[08:05] <benplaut> cyphase, when i say semi-tecky, i mean posers who don't really want to learn much :P
[08:05] <crimsun_> upgrdman, you probably don't want that, because the GNOME infrastructure uses it
[08:05] <ubuntu> emergency!!
[08:05] <benplaut> ask away
[08:05] <upgrdman> crimsun, well then a restart
[08:05] <upgrdman> its not letting me umount a partition
[08:05] <ubuntu> plz help for linux gatewaay server
[08:05] <upgrdman> which is stupid
[08:05] <upgrdman> and its the only thing lsof shows
[08:05] <crimsun_> upgrdman, -HUP it
[08:06] <upgrdman> thx
[08:06] <x3ndou> holy crap
[08:06] <x3ndou> the volume control just hung up on my ppc
[08:06] <crimsun_> unfortunately ppc sound is a bit quirky; hopefully it's much more stable in Breezy. Test with a Colony 3 live cd if at all possible.
[08:07] <upgrdman> crimsun, HUP and it still comes back
[08:07] <ginger> maybe there's a ubunut-usb channel i'm missing here...
[08:07] <crimsun_> upgrdman, do you have any Nautilus windows open to it?
[08:07] <benplaut> ubuntu, ask a question, and ye shall get an answer
[08:07] <cyphase> anyone here have any suggestions for techniques to manage data in gnome?
[08:07] <nalioth> crimsun_: i've had my fun with a 22aug05 daily install build for ppc
[08:07] <upgrdman> nope, but my desktop has a link to it, and nautilus displays my desktop. but its not opened
[08:07] <cyphase> i'm writing a paper on it
[08:08] <crimsun_> upgrdman, does it respawn if you -9 it?
[08:08] <upgrdman> yes, i was using 9 to begin with
[08:08] <Pimpachu> Is there a Flash for 64 bit Linux?
[08:09] <upgrdman> crimsun, fuck it. i was hoping it would be a easy thing to work around. i'll just reboot the box its on
[08:09] <Hmmmm> hey sukrit
[08:09] <crimsun_> upgrdman, can you sudo kill -HUP `pidof gam_server` && sudo umount /mountpoint ?
[08:09] <sukrit> hello the Hmmmm
[08:10] <javier_>  iiiears  it works, thanks a lot!
[08:11] <iiiears> thank crimsun - he showed me h
[08:12] <sukrit> anone here usin e17?
[08:12] <kairu0> no
[08:12] <benplaut> go into #ubuntuforums and talk to bored2k
[08:13] <kairu0> i can run zsnes as root, but when i run it as anyone else i get a segmentation fault. any ideas?
[08:14] <kairu0> ?
[08:15] <punkass> anyone now how to call rhythmbox from streamtuner?
[08:15] <Tripp> Pengaol has been extracted in my home folder, and i'm now in root terminal, does anyone know how to install pengaol?
[08:15] <punkass> by default its xmms %q, but rhythmbox %q doesnt seem to work
[08:15] <x3ndou> yeah, we need more smart people in here
[08:15] <levander`> Anybody got a working user line for gmail?  Here's what I got: "user 'xxxx@gmail.com' there with password 'xxxx' is 'levander' here options fetchall ssl"
[08:16] <levander`> That doesn't work with some error about no greeting timestamp in APOP
[08:16] <topyli> levander: mine works, let me see
[08:16] <cyphase> does anyone here have any suggestions for techniques to manage data in gnome?
[08:16] <cyphase> they don't have to be currently implemented
[08:16] <iiiears> punkass - guessing there is a python script to link xmms to streamtuner. might need a linking script?
[08:17] <sukrit> cyphase: can you explain a lil more what you are looking to do
[08:17] <topyli> levander: poll pop.gmail.com with proto POP3
[08:17] <topyli> levander: user 'xxxxx' there with password 'xxxx' is 'xxxx' here options keep ssl
[08:17] <punkass> iiiears: not sure...just under preferences in streamtuner there is a spot to type your app
[08:17] <iiiears> maybe tailor the script to call rythmbox
[08:17] <TheRaginAsian> heeeelllooo all
[08:17] <TheRaginAsian> juuuust installed Colony 3
[08:18] <TheRaginAsian> is it smart to do a full update right after install?
[08:18] <x3ndou> What, are your keys getting stuck?
[08:18] <cyphase> sukrit, i'm writing a paper about information mangement in gnome. i'm just doing some research on techniques, programs, etc that can help
[08:18] <punkass> iiiears: i am not even sure how to call a .pls file for rhythmbox from command line
[08:18] <cyphase> currently implemented or not
[08:18] <sukrit> oh ok
[08:18] <sukrit> well last time i met nat and miguel they were talking about a unified data managemnt system for gnome
[08:19] <levander`> topyli: the only difference between our two lines is that you have a "keep" option, and I have a "fetchall" option.  That shouldn't matter.
[08:19] <cyphase> yea, i had that idea as well
[08:19] <sukrit> checkout mailing lists for posts from either of the two fellas
[08:19] <topyli> levander: yeah, there must be another problem
[08:19] <cyphase> i have
[08:19] <cyphase> your talking about dashboard i think
[08:19] <sukrit> beagle, gaim, evolution... are supposedly the first victims of the gnomes file system
[08:19] <cyphase> yea
[08:19] <levander`> topyli: actual, i'm polling gmail with APOP, you're polling it with POP3, that's the problem.  Thanks.
[08:19] <sukrit> dashboard too is based on that idea
[08:20] <esc> argh
[08:20] <sukrit> but dashboard doesnt really have data of its own
[08:20] <topyli> levander: :-)
[08:20] <sukrit> whereas gaim, evolution have data of their own
[08:20] <esc> I'm seriously having problems with dependencies
[08:20] <sukrit> which will be moved into a common space
[08:20] <cyphase> yea
[08:20] <benplaut> esc, what?! with apt repos?!
[08:20] <kairu0> i can run zsnes as root, but when i run it as anyone else i get a segmentation fault. any ideas?
[08:21] <cyphase> i'm thinking of a centtral database for bookmarks, notes, address book, eeds, etc
[08:21] <cyphase> feeds*
[08:21] <esc> benplaut - yeah, dont know why. everything I try to install doesnt work...
[08:21] <esc> for example
[08:21] <esc> I'm trying to install azureus
[08:21] <sukrit> i think all data should be stored in a unified space
[08:21] <sukrit> and accessed by independant apps
[08:21] <esc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:21] <esc>   azureus: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or
[08:21] <esc>                     java2-runtime but it is not installable
[08:21] <esc> E: Broken packages
[08:21] <cyphase> yes
[08:21] <TheRaginAsian> kairu0: does it have to be run as root is that the deal?
[08:21] <bob2> bluesky ideas like that need to be accompanied by prototype code
[08:21] <sukrit> esc: apt-get install azureus
[08:22] <bob2> I think we should all have ponies
[08:22] <bob2> sukrit: how will that help esc, whose problem is a lake of a JDK?
[08:22] <topyli> we all don't?
[08:22] <bob2> esc: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:22] <sukrit> esc: first apt-get install j2sdk
[08:22] <kairu0> theragin: i dont want to run it as root. i think theres a permissions problem that wont let others run zsnes.
[08:22] <bob2> s/lake/lack/
[08:22] <kairu0> theragin: maybe a video device permission problem?
[08:22] <esc> apt-get install azureus is how I got that error
[08:22] <TheRaginAsian> perhaps, would not know for sure
[08:23] <bob2> esc: read that wiki page and install java
[08:23] <topyli> bob2: you poor thing, are you poniless? :(
[08:23] <HrdwrBoB> toplyi:http://photos1.flickr.com/8850_143dbaf5d4_m.jpg
[08:23] <sukrit> esc: read ubuntuguide.org
[08:23] <topyli> i really need to get rid of this capslock key
[08:23] <punkass> bob2: remember my Acer laptop that "Failed at linux"?
[08:23] <sukrit>  and install java
[08:23] <sukrit> 11:53 < topyli> bob2: you poor thing, are you poniless? :(
[08:23] <sukrit> 11:54 -!- r4ndy- [n=r4ndy@tor/session/x-690ab9420e8c860a]  has quit [Ping
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[08:24] <esc> sukrit - I have. I added the extra repositories as described in the guide
[08:24] <esc> and everything I try to install I have problems...
[08:24] <punkass> bob2: breezy colony3, almost everything working execpt for battery polling and hibernation
[08:24] <sukrit> and u cant get j2sdk to install?
[08:24] <topyli> sukrit: oh, that's so crues
[08:24] <topyli> cruel even
[08:24] <bob2> punkass: nice
[08:25] <punkass> bob2: yes :) makes me happy
[08:25] <esc> nope
[08:25] <bob2> esc: so, read the wiki page I pointed you at
[08:25] <esc> ok reading now
[08:25] <jkindy> hey how do i change the password i set up?
[08:25] <ubuntu> #ubuntu channel
[08:25] <sukrit> jkindy: passwd
[08:25] <jkindy> thanks
[08:25] <deFrysk> upgraded here to breezy yesterday (x86) it went flawlessly
[08:28] <jkindy> any tutorials out there that teach u linux..like lerning the codes to type in the terminal
[08:28] <durt> esc: search for stuff at ap-get.org
[08:28] <thoreauputic> jkindy: http://tuxfiles.org is a good starting point
[08:28] <bob2> please don't recommend apt-get.org to people
[08:28] <sukrit> jkindy: you new to computing?
[08:28] <bob2> unless you're will to explain to them in what ways it will screw up their system
[08:28] <sukrit> yolinux.com is also a good link
[08:28] <jkindy> ned to linux
[08:28] <jkindy> new
[08:29] <ubuntu> hi
[08:29] <sukrit> bob2: how can apt-get screw up a system
[08:29] <HrdwrBoB> jkindy: thye're not codes, it's not a secret :)
[08:29] <ubuntu> excuse me
[08:29] <sukrit> its meant to make installing shit easier, aint it?
[08:29] <ubuntu> i would like to know
[08:29] <bob2> sukrit: what?
[08:29] <ubuntu> how i can
[08:29] <ubuntu> simulate
[08:29] <ubuntu> ubuntu
[08:29] <bob2> sukrit: installing random crap from apt-get.org can easily break your system
[08:29] <ubuntu> on my normal system
[08:29] <durt> apt-get.org is good
[08:29] <thoreauputic> sukrit: it's not apt that would screw up - it's the sources you get from that site
[08:29] <bob2> it's good if you know how to use it
[08:29] <sukrit> oh ok
[08:29] <ubuntu> excuse me!
[08:30] <bob2> ubuntu: please stop it
[08:30] <ubuntu> please dont ignore me
[08:30] <sukrit> but i guess the sources that come by default with ubuntu are ok right?
[08:30] <bob2> ubuntu: you need to ask a whole question
[08:30] <bob2> on one line
[08:30] <bob2> stating what you want to have happen
[08:30] <ubuntu> i would like to know how to simulate ubuntu in my normal windows xp system
[08:30] <bob2> "simulate ubuntu on my normal system" is not very descriptive
[08:30] <bob2> ubuntu: go get the live CD then and boot into it
[08:30] <ubuntu> emulate
[08:30] <ubuntu> like on a window
[08:30] <sukrit> ubuntu: buy vmware and install ubuntu using it
[08:31] <ubuntu> ...
[08:31] <\dev\goat`work> virtual pc
[08:31] <laserline> Hello everyone
[08:31] <bob2> ubuntu: if you mean "Run Ubuntu inside Windows.", then www.vmware.com and have your credit card ready
[08:31] <ubuntu> virtual pc?
[08:31] <sukrit> hey laserline
[08:31] <ubuntu> o thx
[08:31] <bob2> or Qemu
[08:31] <laserline> i would be glad for some assistence...
[08:31] <Madpilot> jkindy: http://linuxcommand.org/
[08:31] <bob2> but that will require reading documentation, etc
[08:31] <ubuntu> any free stuff?
[08:31] <sukrit> laserline: shoot
[08:31] <bob2> ubuntu: google for qemu then
[08:32] <sukrit> ubuntu: ya there free stuff... knock off windows, install linux. then run windows in ubuntu
[08:32] <paulproteus> laserline: Ask your question.
[08:32] <Madpilot> jkindy: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[08:32] <ubuntu> what is qmu
[08:32] <laserline> I own a Fujitsu Siemens S-4546, Working with Ubuntu 5.04 for 5 months now, I ave ACPI problems...
[08:32] <bob2> ubuntu: no, go use google
[08:32] <esc> ok, I follow the instructions on adding repositories...but I am still having the same problem.
[08:32] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: google is your friend
[08:32] <ubuntu> which program do i need for emulation?
[08:32] <uthini> why is the ubuntu repository so out of date with nvidia drivers?
[08:32] <ubuntu> in that vmware.com
[08:32] <bob2> esc: ignore all documentation aisde from wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:32] <laserline> yesterday i got my battery fixed, and i'm able to suspend and hibernate
[08:32] <bob2> ubuntu: again, use google
[08:32] <sukrit> esc: do u already have java installedo n ur system?
[08:32] <esc> no
[08:33] <ubuntu> excuse me, which software do i need from vmware.com to simulate ubuntu?
[08:33] <bob2> uthini: er, it's not that out of date.  hoary froze in like january, remember
[08:33] <laserline> but when the system comes back from hibernation all is well except esd taking 100% juice and i have to kill it.
[08:33] <bob2> ubuntu: have you actually read their website?
[08:33] <ubuntu> no...
[08:33] <ubuntu> where in the webstie
[08:33] <el_toro> heh
[08:33] <bob2> ubuntu: then do so
[08:33] <ubuntu> website
[08:33] <ubuntu> please
[08:33] <bob2> ubuntu: no, be quiet and read the website
[08:33] <ubuntu> fine
[08:33] <bob2> enjoy
[08:33] <uthini> bob2, unfortunately i don't remember cos i only got ubuntu 3weeks ago
[08:33] <deFrysk> mindless questions
[08:33] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: this is an ubuntu help channel - we can't give help on vmware
[08:33] <paulproteus> lol, ubuntu! :)
[08:33] <bob2> asking us to read a website for you is a bit silly
[08:33] <laserline> when it comes back from sleep (ram suspension) network doesn;t come back.... it says device not found and only reboot fixes it...
[08:33] <esc> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:33] <esc>   azureus: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or
[08:33] <esc>                     java2-runtime but it is not installable
[08:33] <ubuntu> sorry
[08:34] <bob2> the product you'd want is "vmware workstation"
[08:34] <ubuntu> can u give me a link?
[08:34] <bob2> esc: so, stop pasting crap and read
[08:34] <deFrysk> mindless flooding..
[08:34] <uthini> on another note, how can i setup my machine to accept terminal server/remote desktop connections?
[08:34] <bob2> esc: what didn't work on wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?
[08:34] <laserline> anyne could help with the ACPI ?
[08:34] <ubuntu> bob2 are u an ubuntu supporter?
[08:34] <uthini> do i use the remote desktop settings in the admin menu?
[08:34] <Madpilot> deFrysk: just another evening on #ubuntu... ;)
[08:34] <bob2> laserline: report a bug on the linux component
[08:34] <bob2> ubuntu: oh, stop it
[08:34] <_frank> uthini: install ssh server
[08:34] <bob2> you're not going to shame me into thinking you're not lazy
[08:34] <paulproteus> bob2: You're either with Ubuntu or against it!
[08:34] <ubuntu> ...
[08:34] <ubuntu> u are rude
[08:34] <laserline> bob2 - how do i do that ? this is the first bug i encounter...
[08:35] <deFrysk> Madpilot, morning here and coffe hasnt kicked in yet :s
[08:35] <esc> sorry guys.
[08:35] <durt> esc http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:35] <paulproteus> bob2: And ubuntu is the *name* of Ubuntu!
[08:35] <esc> ok
[08:35] <adriyel> wtf?
[08:35] <bob2> ubuntu: and you're being ridiculously lazy
[08:35] <esc> I added hoary-extras
[08:35] <ubuntu> o well
[08:35] <ubuntu> lets shake hands
[08:35] <bob2> laserline: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, linux is the component
[08:35] <adriyel> www.google.com
[08:35] <ubuntu> and stop the argue
[08:35] <benplaut> ubotu tell ubuntu about google
[08:35] <adriyel> I assume your keyboard is functional Ubuntu
[08:35] <esc> but when I search for sun-j2re1.5
[08:35] <bob2> ubuntu: stop flooding the channel please, it's highly annoying
[08:35] <esc> nothing comes up
[08:35] <laserline> laserline: ok
[08:35] <Madpilot> deFrysk: 2330 here and I've just opened a beer...
[08:35] <laserline> ok
[08:35] <bob2> esc: so, stop
[08:35] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: please stop - bob2 is always helpful: you haven't done your homework
[08:35] <cihad> hi
[08:35] <adriyel> noise:signal ratio falling....
[08:35] <paulproteus> esc: That's sad.  Did you run aptitude update?
[08:35] <cihad> peoples
[08:35] <deFrysk> Madpilot, lucky you
[08:35] <ompaul> ubuntu, go read uncle google he has many, many good tails to tell if you ask him correctly :)
[08:35] <ubuntu> bye guys
[08:35] <ubuntu> :D
[08:35] <ubuntu> o yea
[08:35] <ubuntu> bob2
[08:35] <adriyel> thats tales :P
[08:36] <ubuntu> i wonder
[08:36] <ubuntu> if there is any free software?
[08:36] <cihad> selam millet
[08:36] <ompaul> adriyel, correct
[08:36] <ubuntu> does bochs work?
[08:36] <cihad> aranzda
[08:36] <uthini> _frank, after that? settings and stuff?
[08:36] <adriyel> *slaps forehead&
[08:36] <paulproteus> ubuntu: Look up qemu; it's better than bochs.
[08:36] <adriyel> :wow
[08:36] <bob2> ubuntu: I already suggested Qemu
[08:36] <Madpilot> esc: j2re is in Hoary Extra repo, se the bottom of the AddingRepositories wiki page for more info...
[08:36] <ubuntu> ok
[08:36] <ubuntu> bye
[08:36] <ompaul> shhhhhh its very quite
[08:36] <thoreauputic> what a relief...
[08:36] <adriyel> g'night everybody
[08:36] <laserline> and what would that do ? will in be fixed next version, or somone will be able to show me how to fix that in current version of hoary?
[08:36] <Madpilot> wow, how without common clue can you be? ;)
[08:36] <_frank> uthini: well once you have the ssh server running. users will be able to login remotely with a ssh client
[08:36] <laserline> .
[08:36] <bob2> laserline: depends on what the problem is
[08:36] <benplaut> ubotu ubotu google is <reply> Someone is trying to let you know that you should always search on www.google.com before asking a question.
[08:36] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, benplaut
[08:36] <esc> yes, I have that added as well
[08:36] <deFrysk> ubuntu can rest now from his hard work
[08:37] <deFrysk> ;p
[08:37] <uthini> _frank, does that include a windows login?
[08:37] <bob2> esc: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[08:37] <Madpilot> !tell benplaut about question
[08:37] <esc> ok
[08:37] <_frank> uthini: you mean login from a windows machine? use putty for windows
[08:37] <paulproteus> esc: Did you run e.g. apt-get update?  Sorry if I missed your answer.
[08:37] <benplaut> Madpilot, that's not in there, either :P
[08:37] <cafuego> bob2: "Filing message in /var/spool/vmail/cafuego.net/me//.Trash/"   - WOO!
[08:37] <esc> paulproteus - yes I did
[08:37] <esc> several times
[08:37] <_frank> uthini: that will give you shell access. It's more complicated for graphical applications
[08:37] <bob2> cafuego: oh, nice
[08:37] <paulproteus> esc: Okay.
[08:37] <benplaut> ubotu google is Someone is trying to let you know that you should always search on www.google.com before asking a question.
[08:37] <ubotu> okay, benplaut
[08:38] <bob2> cafuego: with sieve?
[08:38] <cafuego> bob2: Nop, courier maildropfilter
[08:38] <Madpilot> !tell benplaut about ask
[08:38] <bob2> laserline: no need to /msg me
[08:38] <bob2> laserline: it's red because I started the line with your name, and your client coloured it
[08:38] <pulk> is there any gui interface in ubuntu for editing the order of init scripts at boot?
[08:38] <cafuego> bob2: turned out to be a matter of explicitly telling postfiox to use maildrop as virtual_transport
[08:38] <uthini> _frank, why so complex? anyways
[08:38] <uthini> will sort out l8r
[08:39] <uthini> gotta go to the office and make sure i still ahve a job
[08:39] <cafuego> bob2: If you want the cfg, let me know and I'll mail it through.
[08:39] <esc> ok /etc/apt/sources.list posted into #flood
[08:39] <_frank> uthini: well you need xserver on your windows computer for graphical apps
[08:39] <bob2> cafuego: mmmm, that would be very handy
[08:39] <laserline> cool, so when i write start a line with a name, for example "bob2: blah blah" (w/o the quotes) you see it coloured ?
[08:39] <cafuego> bob2: msg me an addy :-)
[08:40] <bob2> laserline: yes, most clients do that.  it's possible to disable/change the colour/etc, tho, and it all happens on the client end
[08:40] <laserline> bob2: is there any more information i shoud put in the bugzilla ?
[08:40] <IceDC571> whats the offtopic channel?
[08:41] <bob2> esc: apt-cache search j2sdk -> #flood
[08:41] <nalioth> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:41] <bob2> laserline: laptop details, as much output as you can capture, versions, etc
[08:41] <esc> bob2 ok
[08:41] <ompaul> pluk no there isno gui however if you look in the /etc/init.d files and then look in the various rc.d directories S## is for startup order and K## is for shudown order
[08:42] <_frank> pulk there is ubm
[08:42] <ompaul> pluk if you believe that such a tool is required there is nothing to stop you from building one :)
[08:42] <_frank> pulk: ubuntu boot manager
[08:42] <pulk> ok
[08:42] <_frank> !ubm
[08:42] <ubotu> _frank: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:42] <benplaut> !bum
[08:42] <ubotu> it has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:42] <_frank> oops
[08:42] <bob2> esc: apt-cache search j2
[08:42] <lew> I've heard there is a major Ubuntu release every 6 months, but I can't find on the website when the next major release will be. Anyone happen to know?
[08:43] <_frank> lew in october
[08:43] <laserline> bob2: when i run sleep from gnome menu it really runs /etc/acpi/sleep.sh - so if i sudo it from terminal, it'd be good input (or am i wrong?)
[08:43] <TheRaginAsian> there is a roadmap somehwere
[08:43] <lew> _frank, TY
[08:43] <bob2> lew: october...
[08:43] <bob2> lew: hm?
[08:43] <bob2> TheRaginAsian: yes, on the wiki
[08:44] <ompaul> so wheres the repo for bum?
[08:44] <_frank> http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[08:44] <_frank> maybe in backports I don't know
[08:44] <roberts> load ircprimer
[08:45] <benplaut> it's in breezy :)\
[08:45] <nalioth> lew: the ubuntu release version numbers are the year/month of their release
[08:45] <ompaul> so no use to me _yet_ :)
[08:45] <laserline> bob2: does sleep from gnome meny the same thing as sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[08:45] <bob2> laserline: afaik, yes
[08:45] <bob2> I always run the script manually, anyway
[08:45] <Nexinarus> oh that makes sense heh
[08:46] <bob2> esc: oh, bah
[08:46] <_frank> ompaul: you can install manuallt
[08:46] <bob2> esc: it's not your fault, the backports people screwed up
[08:46] <esc> bob2 oh?
[08:46] <bob2> esc: wget http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[08:46] <ompaul> _frank, this is true
[08:46] <_frank> backports screwed up where?
[08:46] <bob2> esc: sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[08:46] <bob2> esc: then try installing azeeures again
[08:47] <bob2> _frank: their Packages.gz file is incorrect, it seems
[08:47] <esc> ok im wget that right now
[08:47] <esc> lets see if it works
[08:48] <cafuego> bob2: sent
[08:48] <nobile> hi
[08:48] <bob2> cafuego: dankeshan
[08:49] <laserline> bob2: i only see linux as OS after choosing Ubuntu as product, should i put Linux in the package dialogue ?
[08:49] <nobile> I was wondering how can I download the lastest version of gaim, because it won't dl from synaptic
[08:49] <cafuego> bob2: I haven't written a php front end for it yet (but i do now have a suid wrapper to recursively trash mailboxen via a web page)
[08:49] <nobile> and using the site, I don't know which package I should get
[08:49] <bob2> laserline: hm, no, I think me memory sucks
[08:49] <x3ndou> What is the network in /dev/
[08:49] <bob2> cafuego: hah
[08:49] <benplaut> nobile: look in the forums for how to do it via autopackage
[08:50] <_frank> nobile: there is a newer one in backports I think
[08:50] <bob2> cafuego: I have vague plans for a zope-based thing
[08:50] <bob2> x3ndou: nothing
[08:50] <bob2> interfaces don't have device nodes
[08:50] <laserline> bob2: so.... how to report the bug in the best way ?
[08:50] <Nexinarus> !dvd
[08:50] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[08:50] <x3ndou> well
[08:50] <x3ndou> how is VMware supposed to connect to the ethernet
[08:50] <nalioth> cafuego: squirrelmail beats sneakernet
[08:51] <x3ndou> It defaultly tries to connect to /dev/vmnet0
[08:51] <bob2> x3ndou: do you mean tun?
[08:51] <x3ndou> tun?
[08:51] <bob2> that's created by the vmnet module
[08:51] <x3ndou> I tried that
[08:51] <bob2> it's not a normal network interface
[08:51] <x3ndou> /dev/net/tun
[08:51] <x3ndou> argh
[08:51] <bob2> you don't want tun if you're using vmware
[08:51] <x3ndou> I wam using vmware
[08:51] <bob2> the vmware install worked out of the box for me
[08:51] <x3ndou> XD
[08:51] <dabar> I switch from the f7, to alt+ctrl+f1, and when I go back to f7, it is just a black screen, and I hear  the little ubuntu sound, so I know its wokring in the background. This is a new install of Hoary on an HP computer, all HP hardware/whatever they use,... Does one of you guys have any idea what I can do to fix this?
[08:51] <x3ndou> bvargh
[08:52] <x3ndou> wait
[08:52] <x3ndou> do me a favor
[08:52] <x3ndou> look at what the ethernet is set to
[08:52] <Tribune> i need help
[08:52] <bob2> "what the ethernet is set to"?
[08:52] <cafuego> nalioth: yes it does, with a massive wooly cricket bat
[08:52] <x3ndou> yeh
[08:52] <bob2> I have no idea what that sentence means
[08:52] <x3ndou> what device
[08:52] <x3ndou> is it using
[08:52] <bob2> is what using?
[08:52] <bob2> vmware?
[08:52] <x3ndou> yeah
[08:52] <bob2> it presumably uses /dev/vmnet or whatever
[08:53] <x3ndou> yeah
[08:53] <x3ndou> it's not finding that on my setup
[08:53] <bob2> it had better be, since it tainted my kernel to do so
[08:53] <bob2> so
[08:53] <x3ndou> /dev/vmnet0
[08:53] <bob2> remove it all
[08:53] <Tribune> try to apt-get install for realplayer but i receive this message : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:53] <x3ndou> and reinstall it?
[08:53] <bob2> run "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[08:53] <HrdwrBoB> Tribune: try to manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:53] <thoreauputic> Tribune: and did you?
[08:53] <x3ndou> I did that
[08:53] <bob2> then download vmware workstation 5.0
[08:53] <bob2> then install it from scratch
[08:53] <Tribune> how to do?
[08:53] <esc> bob2 - thanks for your help. azureus/java are now installed
[08:53] <bob2> esc: cool
[08:54] <x3ndou> so uninstall vmware
[08:54] <x3ndou> and then reinstall it?
[08:54] <thoreauputic> Tribune:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:54] <dabar> thoreauputic: :)
[08:54] <Tribune> i will try it now
[08:54] <x3ndou> will uninstalling it delete my virtual drives?
[08:54] <x3ndou> Because I want it to
[08:55] <dabar> Tribune: I hope it does not fix it, cause I will have to die if it does.
[08:55] <jkindy> do any of u know of a external HDD that has bios support
[08:55] <bob2> jkindy: that's a bios question, not a hard disk one
[08:55] <x3ndou> yeah
[08:55] <jkindy> oo
[08:55] <x3ndou> my bios supports usb drives
[08:55] <x3ndou> Many don't
[08:56] <thoreauputic> Tribune: and I suggest in future you *not* interrupt installations with apt/synaptic/dpkg
[08:56] <Tribune> ic
[08:57] <DrSpin> ok -- when I logout of my X session, how can I nicely end dbus-daemon-1 and gam_server so that I don't get 10-15 instances running at any one time??
[08:57] <Tribune> i want to install azureus:
[08:57] <dabar> so, noone of you had an issue where switching between consoles, like f1 and going back to f7 there is a black screen instead of X?
[08:57] <Tribune> in my terminal recieved that message
[08:57] <DrSpin> dabar: Are you using Warty??
[08:57] <Tribune> now the message inform differently
[08:57] <dabar> DrSpin: a new hoary install.
[08:57] <Tribune> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:57] <Tribune>   azureus: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5 but it is not installable or
[08:57] <Tribune>                     java2-runtime but it is not installable
[08:57] <Tribune> E: Broken packages
[08:57] <bob2> dabar: that usually means your hardware or your X driver sucks
[08:57] <DrSpin> dabar: nvidia or ati??
[08:57] <bob2> Tribune: please don't paste things in here
[08:57] <x3ndou> haha
[08:57] <Tribune> ok
[08:57] <x3ndou> someone just had that problem Tribune
[08:57] <Tribune> sorry bob2
[08:58] <thoreauputic> !tell Tribune about java
[08:58] <Tribune> gosh... i need to install lots of mp3 songs
[08:58] <bob2> ubotu: get java on i386 is 'wget http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb', then 'sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb'
[08:58] <ubotu> bob2: okay
[08:58] <bob2> Tribune: do the above
[08:58] <bob2> oh
[08:58] <Tribune> i'm running in kubuntu now... should i change to ubuntu-destop to do that?
[08:58] <cafuego> !get java on i386 =~ s/wget /wget -c /
[08:58] <ubotu> OK, cafuego
[08:59] <dabar> DrSpin: no graphics card, and restarting the server does not help, and   it does start as normal and works as long as I dont change to console...
[08:59] <_frank> Tribune: no just open a konsole
[08:59] <DrSpin> dabar: LOL -- you have to have a graphics card for the display to function
[08:59] <dabar> start as normal=when you boot,..
[09:00] <dabar> DrSpin: and by no graphics card, i mean its an onboard thing.
[09:00] <DrSpin> dabar: ok
[09:00] <x3ndou> Integrated you mean, dabar
[09:00] <dabar> whatever.
[09:00] <dabar> :)
[09:00] <DrSpin> dabar join #flood and past the result of # lspci for me
[09:00] <dabar> im not there.
[09:01] <dabar> DrSpin: you got the part where: it works when I boot, until I switch to console?
[09:01] <DrSpin> dabar: yes
[09:01] <dabar> ok, so I should try getting help when I am at that computer?
[09:01] <dabar> ok.
[09:01] <DrSpin> dabar: in the last release of ubuntu this was a problem -- I'm getting some information to work with so maybe I can help you fix it
[09:02] <DrSpin> xsession :: How can I kill applications when I logout like dbus-daemon-1 and gam_server
[09:02] <DrSpin> ??
[09:03] <dabar> I will try again when I am where this computer is... also, I tried installing colony 3 today, and base install fails...I have so far tried burning the ISO twice, but onto the same RW, and the md5sum for the file is good.
[09:03] <dabar> and I was installing that Hoary today, and I forgot the CD at home:)
[09:04] <dabar> so...good night guys.
[09:04] <x3ndou> nighto.
[09:06] <Tribune> my konsole show nothing happen during wget
[09:07] <Tribune> for java
[09:07] <jkindy> the command to reset the menus?
[09:07] <_frank> you should get a progress bar
[09:07] <Tribune> nope.. i did paste exactly as ubotu url
[09:08] <_frank> Tribune: does it output anything?
[09:09] <Tribune> ok ok
[09:09] <Tribune> now's working
[09:09] <Tribune> lol.. how stupid i am :D
[09:09] <jkindy> tried to download visualboyadvanced from package manager and got 50% done and said couldnt connct to the server? any ideas?
[09:10] <_frank> try again?
[09:10] <Digi> quick question
[09:11] <Digi> when trying to install flash player in terminal I got this error
[09:11] <Digi> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[09:11] <_frank> Digi: do you have multiverse enabled? do you run x86?
[09:11] <Digi> yes, x86 and I'm sorry i don't know what multiverse is
[09:11] <Digi> <-- new to linux
[09:11] <_frank> !repositories
[09:11] <ubotu> repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:12] <_frank> this should help ;-)
[09:12] <_frank> good night
[09:12] <Tripp> Hello, does anyone know how to install pengaol?
[09:15] <Madpilot> has anyone ever set a parallel-port scanner in Ubuntu?
[09:15] <jkindy> i allways wondered thers 470 ppl in here and not even 10% talk
[09:15] <Madpilot> lots of us never, ever logout even when we're not actually here
[09:15] <bluefoxicy> wow
[09:15] <DrSpin> #linux went from a conversation about eating habits to health to masturbation as a form of exercise!! LMFAO :)
[09:16] <bluefoxicy> having synaptic search description and name for nmap returns nothing
[09:16] <bluefoxicy> just name gives nmap
[09:16] <Madpilot> besides, right now it's late at night in the Americas, early morning in Europe, and dinnertime in NZ/Oz. it's usually slow around now
[09:17] <jkindy> its like 3 in ther morning here
[09:18] <Madpilot> yeah, it's 0020 here. "late at night/really  early morning in the Americas", if you want to nitpick!
[09:18] <DrSpin> 0020 here as well
[09:19] <crimsun_> crazy leftcoasters :p
[09:19] <DrSpin> _left_coasters ?!? LOL
[09:19] <punkass> 0020 here to
[09:19] <jkindy> i am on the east coast philly to be presice
[09:19] <Madpilot> crimsun: you'd better believe it. I'm a crazy Canadian, to boot...
[09:19] <DrSpin> how 2 dimensional ;)
[09:19] <adriyel> 0319EST
[09:20] <crimsun_> DrSpin, lends itself nicely to a 2d screen ;)
[09:20] <punkass> Madpilot: and another ;)
[09:20] <gabriel> hi
[09:20] <Mestapheles> and another
[09:20] <thoreauputic> DrSchlauf: the earth is flat! It's obvious! Look out he window! *grin*
[09:20] <bluefoxicy>  nmap pop.gmail.com -p 110
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> PORT    STATE    SERVICE
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> 110/tcp filtered pop3
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> oh wow.
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> gmail filters pop3 but offers pop3 anyway
[09:20] <bluefoxicy> (yes it instructs pop.gmail.com be used, doesn't specify a port)
[09:20] <thoreauputic> oops
[09:20] <DrSpin> crimsun_ lmao indeed :)
[09:20] <gabriel> i need to instal samba on hoary? or is it already installed?
[09:20] <jkindy> does anybody know who don vito is
[09:21] <DukGalNamu> how do i mount a samba file system?
[09:21] <orlok> jkindy: as in the godfather?
[09:21] <Madpilot> so, old parport scanners? anyone? the sane projects claim it's fully supported, but the drivers mentioned don't seem to be in Ubuntu repos...
[09:21] <orlok> don vito corleone?
[09:21] <jkindy> no as in viva la ba
[09:21] <jkindy> bam
[09:21] <DukGalNamu> ?
[09:21] <jkindy> mtv man ...do u live under a rock lol
[09:22] <crimsun_> well, not everyone has/watches tv
[09:22] <thoreauputic> !tell DukGalNamu about samba
[09:22] <jkindy> lol
[09:22] <durt> help! i messed something up: how can i uninstall libc6 and use an older version without having to uninstall everything that depends on it?
[09:23] <jkindy> well if u ever get a chance check out viva la bam on mtv great shom
[09:23] <crimsun_> durt, force a downgrade? That can be messy.
[09:23] <thoreauputic> durt: practically anything and everythig depends on libc6...
[09:23] <gabriel> i get an error installing samba-common because in synaptic i have only 3.0.10 but smb-client needs 3.0.14a?
[09:23] <crimsun_> durt, essentially, you'll have to downgrade its rdepends anyway
[09:24] <durt> crimsun: how can i do it?
[09:24] <jkindy> does anybody use Knoppix?
[09:24] <crimsun_> gabriel, do you have a breezy deb line in there somewhere?
[09:24] <bob2> durt: what did you do to break libc6 to begin with?
[09:24] <bob2> jkindy: #knoppix
[09:24] <Tribune> i did use knoppox last time :D
[09:24] <Tribune> but using live cd
[09:25] <crimsun_> durt, just downgrade libc6 and accept the fact that you'll lose its redepends
[09:25] <gabriel> crisum_: i have hoary. i don't know if i have samba installed by defaut maybe?
[09:25] <crimsun_> durt, otherwise you'll end up with an even more broken system
[09:25] <gabriel> crimsum_: i have hoary. i don't know if i have samba installed by defaut maybe?
[09:25] <durt> i was being stupid and installed the breezy version so i could upgrade wireless tools
[09:25] <Tribune> can ubuntu communicate with pocket pc running mobile 2003?
[09:25] <crimsun_> gabriel, hoary definitely doesn't have 3.0.14a
[09:26] <bob2> gabriel: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[09:26] <crimsun_> durt, then why not just completely dist-upgrade to Breezy?
[09:26] <gabriel> crimsun_, so i can't install samba right?
[09:26] <crimsun_> gabriel, please heed bob2's instructions
[09:27] <gabriel> crimsun_ google for "bob2's"?
[09:27] <bob2> 17:26:20 @         bob2 | gabriel: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[09:28] <random003> does ubuntu 5.04 come with a cd burning program?
[09:28] <bob2> yes
[09:28] <bob2> a number of them, including the default file manager
[09:28] <random003> bob2, I'm after one that is able to burn iso files, that doesn't require being downloaded (or is on the cd)
[09:28] <durt> crimsun_: good idea, ill try breezy
[09:28] <knowledge> I'm happy to announce that I have officially wiped out my windows partition...
[09:29] <random003> knowledge, good work :D
[09:29] <jkindy> i am a noob who is trying to lern...were is telnetvand how do i get to it..everyone tell me to use ssh but i want to use telnet because that is what is being used in a tutorial i am using
[09:29] <gabriel> bob2, ok
[09:29] <bob2> random003: right click on the .iso in the file manager.  select "burn". enjoy!
[09:29] <Pimpachu> How can I kill X server to install the latest NVIDIA drivers?
[09:29] <Pimpachu> I just need to kill X
[09:29] <knowledge> I booted it up today and I was using it for a little...and it just didn't feel right...I was like mann, nothing like linux...
[09:29] <bob2> Pimpachu: don't bother
[09:29] <bob2> the instructions are wrong
[09:29] <Pimpachu> bob2, Sup?
[09:29] <random003> thanks bob
[09:29] <knowledge> even after installing OS X on my laptop, I came back to linux
[09:29] <Nermal> jkindy, ssh is more secure than telnet
[09:29] <Pimpachu> bob2, I already installed the old ones
[09:30] <Thardas> Is there any downsides in adding universe to sources.list?
[09:30] <bob2> jkindy: it's not worth it
[09:30] <bob2> jkindy: ssh user@ipaddress
[09:30] <Pimpachu> I need the new ones because i'm running 7800GTX in SLI
[09:30] <Pimpachu> I need the latest drivers.
[09:30] <jkindy> do i need to download ssh or is it allready installed
[09:30] <bob2> Pimpachu: ok, but don't bother killing X
[09:30] <Nermal> its already installed
[09:30] <Nermal> just type ssh -l <username> <hostname>
[09:30] <Nermal> man ssh :P
[09:30] <gabriel> bob2,  is flood a xchat user or a chan?
[09:31] <knowledge> but now I have a question...I have a hard drive with OS X installed on it (6 gig partition) and the drive is a 60 gig, how can I move my current linux install onto that without any sort of problems?
[09:31] <bob2> gabriel: a channel...
[09:31] <Nermal> gabriel, channel
[09:31] <Pimpachu> bob2, nvidia tells me it cannot install while X is running.
[09:31] <Nermal> Pimpachu, so stop X ?
[09:31] <DukGalNamu> hey, does anyone know of a graphical network interface??
[09:31] <bob2> Pimpachu: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[09:31] <Nermal> DukGalNamu, ?
[09:31] <Nermal> X ?
[09:31] <bob2> lord those drivers are terrible
[09:31] <DukGalNamu> Nermal: network
[09:31] <Nermal> DukGalNamu, X ?
[09:32] <bob2> DukGalNamu: you seem to have forgotten a word from your question
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> Nermal: as in ethernet server client network
[09:32] <Nermal> DukGalNamu, eh ?
[09:32] <bob2> DukGalNamu: are you perhaps looking for a tool to configure your network interfaces?
[09:32] <Nermal> speak properly
[09:32] <Nermal> or a dictionary
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> bob2: no a tool to mount other hard drives graphically
[09:32] <Nermal> right 5 minutes of n00bs is enough for me today
[09:32] <Pimpachu> bob2, It says it's still running X
[09:32] <bob2> DukGalNamu: so, say that
[09:32] <Pimpachu> bob2, That's a good command to know though.
[09:32] <DukGalNamu> bob2: over thernet
[09:33] <DukGalNamu> bob2: *ethernet
[09:33] <gabriel> bob2, ok done it
[09:33] <bob2> DukGalNamu: www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:33] <bob2> gabriel: ask on the backports forums, I guess
[09:34] <zcat[1] > brb
[09:34] <Pimpachu> bob2, The apt-get version of the driver is too old for what i'm running
[09:34] <gabriel> bob2, sorry. what are the backports forums? not here?
[09:35] <bob2> gabriel: www.ubuntuforums.org, I assume
[09:35] <bob2> it's very likely the issue is with you using the backports
[09:35] <bob2> Pimpachu: I'm not saying I don't believe you...
[09:35] <jkindy> i have a addiction to that nibbles game
[09:35] <DukGalNamu> does anyone know of a gui that mounts bob2 thats all nice and dandy, but i am not using gnome, and all of my attempts at command line shareing have failed
[09:35] <DukGalNamu> oops
[09:35] <bob2> wtf
[09:35] <gabriel> bob2, i go there and give it a try
[09:35] <Pimpachu> bob2, Do you know why even though X is dead NVIDIA would say it is not dead?
[09:36] <gabriel> bob2, thanks
[09:36] <bob2> DukGalNamu: you're going to have a lot of problems getting help with that attitude
[09:36] <bob2> DukGalNamu: things mising from your question include: explaining what sort of files yo uwant to share, what OS the other system runs and how secure you want it to be.
[09:36] <bob2> Pimpachu: no
[09:36] <nalioth> DukGalNamu: we need information
[09:37] <DukGalNamu> bob2: sorry, the other os is gentoo, it requires a username and password, no encryption, security is not an issue, folder is shared with samba
[09:37] <bob2> so...
[09:38] <parka> hi all ... i don't understand how to search in aptitude. if i search for xfce4, it displays some packages but not the main xfce4
[09:38] <bob2> when you said "hey, does anyone know of a graphical network interface??" you meant "Can someone help me mount a SAMBA share?"?
[09:38] <nalioth> parka: do you 'have' to use aptitude? try synaptic if you can
[09:38] <knowledge> parka: use synaptics
[09:38] <Pimpachu> bob2, tty7 just has a black screen with a blinking cursor that won't accept input.
[09:38] <bob2> Pimpachu: yes, X is no longer running on it
[09:38] <zcat[1] > DukGalNamu: apt-get install telnet-server
[09:39] <bob2> Pimpachu: it sounds very much like the nvidia installer being shit
[09:39] <Pimpachu> bob2, I figured it out
[09:39] <bob2> DukGalNamu: do try to be clearer in future...
[09:39] <DukGalNamu> bob2: actually, i had found a GUI program that uses kde that give a nice little interface into mounting things... but if i can figure out how to do it command line then all the more power to me
[09:39] <bob2> DukGalNamu: sudo mount -t smbfs -o ro //192.168.1.134/snap /mnt/ooder
[09:39] <DukGalNamu> bob2: sorry, i am very tired and don't make sense some times
[09:39] <parka> nalioth, knowledge: thanks, i know ... i just wanted to get used to aptitude. have heard it solves dependencies better
[09:39] <bob2> DukGalNamu: where the IP is the IP of the remote machine, snap is the share name and /mnt/ooder is the local mount point
[09:39] <bob2> the man page explains how to use a a username
[09:39] <nalioth> parka: aptitude and synaptic are the primary frontends to apt-get
[09:40] <knowledge> parka: it is my understanding that it is the same thing one's gui and one is command based
[09:40] <knowledge> but I could be wrong
[09:40] <bob2> they're similar, yes
[09:40] <bob2> and both use the same backend
[09:40] <DukGalNamu> bob2: how do i enter the username aslo?
[09:40] <sukrit> they're similar, yes
[09:40] <DukGalNamu> also
[09:40] <bob2> DukGalNamu: 17:39:56 @         bob2 | the man page explains how to use a a username
[09:41] <DukGalNamu> ...
[09:41] <parka> ah, so would you recommend synaptic over apt-get?
[09:41] <bob2> aptitude or synaptic should be used instead of apt-get, yes
[09:41] <nalioth> parka:  synaptic is a frontend to apt-get
[09:41] <bob2> aptitude is basically a drop-in replacement
[09:41] <bob2> e.g. sudo aptitude install blah
[09:42] <bob2> DukGalNamu: come on dude, man smbmount
[09:42] <knowledge> question...I have a hard drive with OS X installed on it (6 gig partition) and the drive is a 60 gig, how can I move my current linux install onto that without any sort of problems?
[09:42] <bob2> DukGalNamu: the first page shows how to specify the username
[09:42] <bob2> knowledge: I wouldn't bother
[09:42] <knowledge> bob2: good stuff...
[09:42] <nalioth> knowledge: depends on your current linux distro
[09:42] <parka> okay, thank you all
[09:42] <knowledge> bob2: not even try to make an image?
[09:42] <DukGalNamu> bob2: no man for smbmount...
[09:42] <knowledge> nalioth: Ubuntu
[09:42] <Pimpachu> bob2, What's the package name for the Kernel source to apt it down so I can build the nvidia drivers?
[09:42] <joseph> a lil prob here cant connect to internet but i can still chat on messenger
[09:42] <bob2> DukGalNamu: then you need to install it
[09:43] <bob2> Pimpachu: you don't want the kernel source; sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:43] <dennis__> hEllo
[09:43] <nalioth> knowledge: better to install from scratch ubuntu on the hd, and just move your HOMEDIR over
[09:43] <dennis__> cAN ANYOne help  me with some totem problems?
[09:43] <knowledge> nalioth: I could definitely do that
[09:43] <joseph> connection to internet problems....helppp
[09:43] <nalioth> knowledge: what kind of mac?
[09:43] <bob2> knowledge: eh? moving will be tricky and annoying, and involve a boot disk.   why not just use that partition for something else?
[09:43] <dennis__> Anyone?
[09:43] <knowledge> nalioth: Dell Inspiron 8200
[09:44] <dennis__> I'm having problems with stupid totem :(
[09:44] <nalioth> knowledge: i'm very confused, but thats a common constant with me
[09:44] <knowledge> dennis__: what's the prob?
[09:44] <bob2> dennis__: dude, we've done thise twice already today
[09:44] <dennis__> Hehe
[09:44] <bob2> dennis__: just ask your question already
[09:44] <knowledge> nalioth: it's the osX86 version of os x
[09:44] <dennis__> One sec
[09:44] <nalioth> knowledge: just install ubuntu of whatever flavor on it, and it should be no prob
[09:44] <cyphase> lol
[09:44] <cyphase> linuxjournal.com is gettind DoS'ed
[09:44] <dennis__> When I try and open a file in totem
[09:44] <dennis__> I get this
[09:45] <thoreauputic> DukGalNamu:  sudo aptitude install smbfs
[09:45] <dennis__> otem could not startup.
[09:45] <dennis__> Resource busy or something else
[09:45] <dennis__> :/
[09:45] <DukGalNamu> thoreauputic: i got it, and it still doesn't work
[09:45] <dennis__> Even though I restarted x and rebooted the computer after the X reboot didn't work
[09:45] <dennis__> :/
[09:45] <knowledge> nalioth: yeah, I know what you mean...honestly even though I got it to run clean, it still doesn't seem like a mac, you know what I mean?
[09:46] <dennis__> This always seems to happen when I install new graphic drivers
[09:46] <Pimpachu> bob2, The latest Hoary only uses 2.6.10-5?
[09:46] <bob2> Pimpachu: that's what was stable when hoary froze 6+ months ago
[09:46] <maan84> Excuse me... I'm trying to play an *.mkv file and it run's very laggy in Xine, anyone know where I can get good codecs or a solution to the problem? Thank you
[09:46] <nalioth> knowledge: i'm sure the macs that have intel inside are gonna be tweaked to their last squeak
[09:46] <Pimpachu> bob2, Is there no way to use a greater version?
[09:46] <dennis__> bob2 did you see my question?
[09:46] <bob2> Pimpachu: of course there is, but why?
[09:46] <bob2> dennis__: yup
[09:46] <Pimpachu> bob2, I know I could compile it myself, but I fear the worst lol
[09:46] <Digis> Will ubuntu breezy would work on such a hawdware ibm thinkpad 240 (celeron 300mhz, 128 ram), now I am running sarge on it, and planning installing ubuntu...
[09:46] <nalioth> maan84: what hardware are you running it on?
[09:46] <dennis__> ANy idea whats up with it?
[09:46] <bob2> I don't use totem
[09:46] <crimsun_> Digis, yes
[09:47] <Pimpachu> Pimpachu, There's a problem with the NVIDIA driver and Kernels < 2.6.11
[09:47] <dennis__> :/
[09:47] <bob2> Digis: it will run as well as sarge
[09:47] <Digis> maybe even faster?
[09:47] <Digis> what do U think?
[09:47] <nalioth> Digis: plan on installing breezy in october
[09:47] <maan84> nalioth: P4 3.2Ghz, 512 662DDR2 mem, SATA 10,000rpm, GF4
[09:47] <dennis__> nalioth can you help?
[09:47] <knowledge> nalioth: I'm sure, but I thought it was cool that macs had a processor that was unique, and from what I understand...the PPC arch was a MUCH better design, but then again, I'm not a programmer so I can't care that much
[09:47] <bob2> DukGalNamu: no need to /msg me...
[09:47] <nalioth> maan84: try using vlc
[09:47] <bob2> Digis: about the same
[09:47] <DukGalNamu> bob2: its my actuall username and password....
[09:47] <Digis> nalioth, I am running breezy on my work pc, and it runs not bad
[09:47] <maan84> nalioth: I'm very new, vlc? :)
[09:47] <DukGalNamu> bob2: :P
[09:48] <orlok> knowledge: actually, thre have been unix systems running that CPU family for a looooooooong time
[09:48] <bob2> DukGalNamu: I know, but there's no need to show that to me at all...
[09:48] <DukGalNamu> bob2: well it fails emerging
[09:48] <nalioth> dennis__: sorry, am not familiar with totem or multimedia in general
[09:48] <bob2> "emerging"?
[09:48] <IceDC571> how would you test a dpkg package to see if it would install correctly or not?
[09:48] <dennis__> :/
[09:48] <DukGalNamu> bob2: duuur, i mean it fail mounting
[09:48] <dennis__> Is anyone here familiar with totem?
[09:48] <nalioth> knowledge: politics is the decision maker in the switch
[09:48] <bob2> IceDC571: try and install it
[09:48] <Wilf> just installed ubuntu, but x won't start. S3 Trio video card, is this the cause?
[09:48] <nalioth> maan84: videolan client, it plays dang near everything video
[09:49] <bob2> DukGalNamu: so
[09:49] <bob2> DukGalNamu: I can't see your screen.  or your logs.  or how yo uset things up. etc.
[09:49] <orlok>  knowledge: IBM's RS6000 systems, i remember seeing a PPC604e based one
[09:49] <maan84> nalioth: Ok :) Where can I get a hold of it?
[09:49] <bob2> DukGalNamu: telling me "it dont work" does not let me help at all
[09:49] <thoreauputic> Wilf: S3 Trio? Is this an old machne?
[09:49] <DukGalNamu> bob2: sorry
[09:49] <Wilf> yes
[09:49] <thoreauputic> *machine
[09:49] <bob2> anyway, hometime
[09:49] <dennis__> thoreauputic, how about you?
[09:50] <dennis__> YOu familiar with totem?
[09:50] <nalioth> !info vlc
[09:50] <Wilf> says there are errors
[09:50] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[09:50] <Wilf> with symbols not found
[09:50] <thoreauputic> Wilf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the vesa driver
[09:50] <Digi> can someone tell me what to do about this error message?
[09:50] <Digi> Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-RO M recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[09:50] <Wilf> ok
[09:50] <nalioth> maan84: you need the universe repo enabled and you can get vlc using synaptic
[09:50] <thoreauputic> dennis__: I use totem-xine sometimes
[09:50] <knowledge> nalioth: agreed, in the end, it's money and politics
[09:50] <dennis__> Well
[09:50] <dennis__> For some reason
[09:50] <dennis__> After I installed the ati drivers for my video card
[09:50] <thoreauputic> dennis__: I wouldn't say I'm "familiar" with it ;)
[09:51] <dennis__> Totem fucked up :/
[09:51] <maan84> naloth: ok thanks, I'm pretty sure I got universe added in the sources list, do I use some apt command to get it? :)
[09:51] <dennis__> It says it is busy and can not play the file
[09:51] <dennis__> Even after a reboot
[09:51] <nalioth> maan84: you can use "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[09:51] <maan84> nalioth: Thank you
[09:51] <dennis__> and I searched running tasks and totem is not there
[09:51] <thoreauputic> dennis__: possibly an esd issue - just a guess
[09:51] <knowledge> orlok: true, but it's not a mac, I don't know how to explain it...but to me, a mac was something special....elite I guess you could say...I mean I'm sure that there will be another OS that will still use Risc procs...but it's not the same
[09:52] <dennis__> thoreauputic, esd?
[09:52] <nalioth> knowledge: another OS (you mean like linux?)
[09:52] <thoreauputic> dennis__: Enlightened Sound Daemon
[09:52] <knowledge> nalioth: yeah
[09:52] <\dev\goat> http://www.mailnation.net <-- how badass is that
[09:52] <thoreauputic> dennis__: try killall esd and re-run totem
[09:53] <nalioth> knowledge: i have 2 macs now running ubuntu, and am working on gettin 2 more running ubuntu
[09:53] <nalioth> knowledge: i find OSX overrated
[09:53] <dennis__> Thor :/
[09:53] <dennis__> Didn't work
[09:53] <DukGalNamu> bob2: its called smb4k
[09:54] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[09:54] <ubotu> methinks doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[09:54] <athlon> is digital camera supported by ubuntu stock kernel   ?
[09:54] <dennis__> hehe
[09:54] <knowledge> nalioth: yeah, I agree, I was so hyped about using OSX on my own computer, so I could fool around with all the ins and outs...but after about an hour I was like...this is it? I just think the cases looked nice. Also, I don't even know where to begin looking for mobos and processors to build a PPC comp
[09:55] <dennis__> Thor, same error message
[09:55] <gabriel> but in hoary is samba istalled by default or not?
[09:55] <dennis__> "Reource busy ...blah blah"
[09:55] <nalioth> knowledge: there are not a lot of PPC mobos other than via apple
[09:55] <jesper> athlon: yes, most are..
[09:55] <knowledge> nalioth: exactly...
[09:56] <Seveas> gabriel, depends on what you need
[09:56] <knowledge> nalioth: so even if there are distros and os' that can utilize PPC, there's no longer a point after 2Q '06
[09:56] <Seveas> gabriel, the samba part in nautilus is there, the samba daemon or smbfs program/library not.
[09:56] <dennis__> esource busy or not available.
[09:57] <gabriel> Seveas, i just need to share files beetween hoary and wxp under vmware
[09:57] <Seveas> can't you just mount the XP disks or does VMware hide them?
[09:57] <bob2> DukGalNamu: so, when you were talking about mounting things, you only meant SMB shares, ok
[09:57] <knowledge> rawr
[09:58] <DukGalNamu> bob2: yeah, although that program is great for all other shares
[09:58] <gabriel> Saveas. let me check
[09:58] <DukGalNamu> bob2: i still can't figure out why it doesn't mount....
[09:58] <athlon> Ive removed the stock kernel some time ago  and use a custom kernel. I am trying to install it again but strangely synaptic only has linux-image up to 2.6.11
[09:58] <bob2> "all other shares"?
[09:58] <DukGalNamu> bob2: ntfs
[09:58] <DukGalNamu> bob2: and such
[09:59] <bob2> athlon: synaptic won't know or care about packages that aren't in apt repositories
[09:59] <bob2> Pimpachu: you'll be on your own then, no ubuntu kernels above 2.6.10 work on hoary
[09:59] <DukGalNamu> bob2: it sees everything on the network and can mount something if its available
[09:59] <gabriel> Seveas, do you mean i should mount the virtual file of vmware?
[09:59] <athlon> oh, okay. I just thought it's a bug or something
[10:01] <Wilf> thor|away, that didn't work
[10:01] <DukGalNamu> bob2: its late, i am sorry if i don't make sense
[10:01] <Wilf> changed the driver to vesa
[10:01] <Wilf> but i get no symbol found error a few times
[10:01] <Wilf> then "fatal server error: no screens found"
[10:02] <gabriel> Seveas, i cant see xp disks under vmware
[10:03] <Thardas> gabriel: share them.
[10:03] <maan84> Weird, *.mkv won't play at all in VLC =/ And I tried open a *.avi that plays fine in xine, it plays in vlc but without sound :P
[10:04] <gabriel> Thardas, should i shear the whole xp disk under xp in vmware?
[10:04] <Madpilot> does anyone know if the Ubuntu kernal includes the ppSCSI module, or a way I could check for it? I'm not interesting in compiling my own kernal...
[10:05] <Thardas> gabriel: it would probably be the easiest way.
[10:05] <Thardas> Do you have Simple Sharing enabled?
[10:06] <gabriel> Thardas, hei man,it was the easyest way! Thanks
[10:06] <Seveas> Madpilot, CONFIG_SCSI_PPA=m
[10:06] <Seveas> is that it?
[10:06] <Thardas> gabriel: you're welcome.
[10:06] <Internat> any users of bluez in here?
[10:07] <Madpilot> Seveas: possibly. I'm just googling on getting an old parport scanner working - does that mean the module I'd need is already in the Ubuntu kernel?
[10:07] <Madpilot> Seveas: http://www.kirchgessner.net/sanehpfaq.html#HPFAQ3A
[10:08] <DukGalNamu> bob2: apperently something is wrong with my system, cause it can't see any network or any of the computers on my network...
[10:08] <DukGalNamu> bob2: ohh, could it be because i set my system to DMZ?
[10:09] <DukGalNamu> bob2: that now i am not allowed to talk to other computers on the network for samty reasons
[10:09] <DukGalNamu> safty
[10:09] <catfox> morning all. i'm struggling with my synaptics touchpad on a different distro(work laptop). the same touchpad works fine on my other laptop though, so can anyone point me to the default haory config  for it, please?
[10:10] <DukGalNamu> nope i can ping it
[10:10] <bob2> wtf
[10:11] <bob2> DukGalNamu: go to bed, dude
[10:11] <DukGalNamu> bob2: yeah ok
[10:11] <DukGalNamu> bob2: gnight :P
[10:12] <ekimus> catfox: i could give you a (quite) generic howto on the synaptics touchpad
[10:12] <catfox> ekimus, sure
[10:12] <ekimus> catfox: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_Acer_Travelmate_803LCi_Manual#Synaptics_Touchpad
[10:12] <catfox> ekimus, thanks, i'll take a look
[10:13] <Madpilot> catfox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto <-- not sure about this for Hoary - it seems to be for Warty - but have a look
[10:13] <Madpilot> (and update it if you can when you get your touchpad working!)
[10:13] <catfox> Madpilot, cheers i'll check that out too
[10:15] <onkarshinde> anyone trying colony 3? How is it? Does it contain GNOME 2.12 (unstable)?
[10:15] <Burgundavia> oneleaf, yes
[10:15] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, yes, it contains 2.11 (which will become 2.12)
[10:15] <thoreauputic> Wilf: this might help (no guarantees) >>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg  and say "no" to the framebuffer question
[10:16] <Wilf> ok
[10:16] <onkarshinde> Burgundavia: How is colony 3 as compared to Hoary?
[10:16] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, much better
[10:16] <Wilf> ok thoreauputic, brb
[10:16] <onkarshinde> Burgundavia: Any specific improvements?
[10:16] <Wilf> thanks for helping by the way
[10:16] <Wilf> i really appreciate it
[10:17] <thoreauputic> np
[10:17] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:17] <Burgundavia> onkarshinde, wiki.ubuntu.com/QuickTourDraft is a quick guide to some of the latest cool things
[10:18] <Wilf> thoreauputic, S3 or Vesa?
[10:18] <Jowi> hello everyone
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Wilf: I would stick with vesa - it works for anything, normally
[10:19] <thoreauputic> Wilf: if not , you might need to rerun the command and try other drivers
[10:19] <Wilf> ok
[10:22] <onkarshinde> why isn't vlc included in Ubuntu by default though it is better than totem.
[10:22] <bob2> better sounds fairly subjective
[10:22] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: when did you stop beating your wife?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> leading questions...
[10:23] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: What is that?
[10:23] <thoreauputic> never mind
[10:23] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: :)
[10:25] <Wilf> thoreauputic, nada.
[10:25] <thoreauputic> Wilf: :(
[10:27] <thoreauputic> Wilf: have you tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choosing the simple options? Like trying to get it working at 800x600, choosing low values for vid memory etc?
[10:27] <Wilf> yep.
[10:28] <Wilf> all configs are set low by default due to the limitations of the video card
[10:29] <dooglus> can someone please help me find /usr/lib/perl5/Curses.pm in 'breezy'?
[10:29] <dooglus> I see this:    $ apt-file search /usr/lib/perl5/Curses.pm
[10:29] <dooglus> libcurses-perl: usr/lib/perl5/Curses.pm
[10:30] <gabriel> Thardas, i got to the smb shared folder from linux onto xp but i get a log request. none of the username + psw go well. it asks username domain and psw. what should i use?
[10:30] <dooglus> but I've installed libcurses-perl, and the file didn't appear.
[10:30] <Jowi> sorry for breaking in, but Wilf, have you had a look with "sudo ddcprobe" to see what is supported?
[10:30] <Wilf> nope Jowi, will do that now
[10:31] <dooglus> gabriel: try blank username and password, and put the workgroup name for the domain
[10:31] <Wilf> all the settings seem to be within limitations of the card...
[10:32] <Jowi> so what is the problem?
[10:33] <Wilf> x wont start :\
[10:33] <Wilf> "fatal server eror: no screens found"
[10:33] <Jowi> ouch. alright. so no sceen is configured in xorg.conf? have you posted xorg.conf in the pastebin already?
[10:34] <Wilf> xorg.conf in the pastebin?
[10:34] <Jowi> yeah. copy your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:34] <toonX> i am trying to run some X app from console logged as root , but i get this error that the app can't connect to the X server , i did a set and saw i have no DISPLAY variable for user root, how can i export one ?
[10:34] <Jowi> and give us the link to your post
[10:34] <Wilf> different computer
[10:34] <drcode> any one know about free backup software client /server with nice gui ?
[10:35] <Wilf> and the other one is not set up to the internet yet
[10:35] <Wilf> but
[10:35] <Jowi> Wilf: nasty :P
[10:35] <Wilf> i could copy it to a floppy and copy it over
[10:35] <Wilf> this is a fresh install by the way
[10:35] <Wilf> never worked from the word go
[10:35] <Jowi> lowtech. i like it. lol
[10:35] <Jowi> yeah, something is wrong in the xorg.conf file i'm sure
[10:36] <Wilf> i used ubuntu for a while on this computer, until my studies took priority (3DS Max) :\
[10:36] <Wilf> worked fine on this machine
[10:37] <Jowi> ...but the other one does not get a "screen" according to xorg...
[10:37] <Wilf> yup
[10:37] <gabriel> the net server doesn't open anymore.
[10:37] <Wilf> it also says "screens found, but none with a useable configuraion"
[10:37] <Wilf> if that helps
[10:38] <Jowi> Wilf: if you can find a way to give us a taste of your xorg.conf it would help alot. useless advise you'll get otherwise
[10:38] <toonX> why do i get this err when trying to some some X apps from Terminal as root ? Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server and Xlib: No protocol specified and
[10:38] <Wilf> ok, give me a minute
[10:38] <toonX> and Error: unable to open display :0
[10:39] <Thardas> gabriel: are you sharing from Windows to Linux?
[10:39] <Wilf> Jowi: sorry about the noobie questions, but how do i mount a floppy?
[10:40] <Wilf> i've forgotten :\
[10:40] <Wilf> mount (something) /mnt/fdd0
[10:40] <Jowi> erhm... should be mount /media/floppy
[10:40] <Wilf> my mandrake is showing :\
[10:40] <ndlovu> hi all. I'm having trouble installing samba. not sure if it's a problem on my side or with the repositories. I get this error:
[10:40] <ndlovu>  smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1) but 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[10:40] <ndlovu> any ideas?
[10:41] <Jowi> i don't have a floppy on this computer so i'm lost there. was a few years ago
[10:41] <gabriel> Thardas, yes under vmware. now i can't open the net window no more i think i should reeboot
[10:41] <Seveas> ndlovu, disable backports...
[10:41] <thoreauputic> Wilf: if it helps, my old pentium 200 here with S3 Trio Gx or DX is using depth 16 rather than 24, with the vesa driver, and running at 1024x768
[10:41] <ndlovu> thanks Seveas, will try that
[10:43] <thoreauputic> Wilf: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy for the floppy
[10:43] <Tribune> i did finish do wget http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb. after this i need to do sudo apt-get install ..?
[10:44] <Seveas> dpkg -i sun*deb
[10:45] <Tribune> !ubotu
[10:45] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:45] <Tribune> gosh... what my next step. how stupid i am
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Tribune: Seveas just told you above
[10:46] <Tribune> oohh
[10:46] <Tribune> isee
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Tribune: insert " sudo " before that command, BTW
[10:47] <Tribune> thanks
[10:47] <Tribune> if i finish install my java.. is it i can use m limewire & azarues?
[10:48] <Tribune> real player format? which application can i use?
[10:48] <Jowi> realplayer
[10:49] <Madpilot> Tribune: rm can be played by Totem or nearly anything
[10:49] <Madpilot> !restricted
[10:49] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:50] <maan84> Hello, in Mplayer I get that subfont.ttf is missing, and I googled some and found out that any *.ttf file will work (Arial) was default, so I thought I'd copy a font to ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf, though where can I find a font to copy? :D *new*
[10:50] <Wilf> hrmmm
[10:50] <Wilf> should it be too big for a floppy?
[10:50] <Jowi> Wilf: xorg.conf is about 3kb
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: unless you like listening to BBC radio, in which case realplay is the only option afaics
[10:50] <arcanistherogue> say, anyone here use legacy doom?
[10:50] <hussam> anybody here using openofficeorg2 from http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/680/SRC680_m125/Build-1/ ?
[10:50] <Wilf> :\
[10:51] <arcanistherogue> I have a question
[10:51] <Wilf> where should it be?
[10:51] <arcanistherogue> is there a switch that lets me play it in a window?
[10:51] <Jowi> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:51] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: really? gack. all the net radio I've used so far has worked fine in Totem...
[10:51] <Wilf> ah, wrong place, stupid me.
[10:51] <Wilf> sorry, brb :P
[10:51] <thoreauputic> Wilf: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:52] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: they use a "BBC player" that relies on realplay to work (it's really dumb)
[10:52] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: my respect for the Beeb just went down a notch...
[10:53] <k31th> wat was ubuntu docs channel
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: a while back they had ogg vorbis feeds, but it was experimental and they stopped
[10:53] <k31th> im ment to be helping out with that
[10:53] <maan84> Anyone know where I can find Arial.ttf or another ttf font file? Which location on the harddrive? :)
[10:54] <Jowi> maan84: the packagename is called msttcorefonts
[10:54] <dooglus> maan84: /mnt/c/WINDOWS/FONTS/arial.ttf
[10:54] <k31th> wtf is the mp3 codec called?? i cant play mp3s in any player yet if i hover the mouse over the sound file it plays
[10:54] <dooglus> (or wherever you mount your C: drive)
[10:54] <Ng> Madpilot: they use Real because nobody else was doing decent hardware encoder boxes when they introduced the service. they are writing their own Free codecs though.
[10:55] <maan84> Jowi: ok thank you so I have to install a package to find fonts? :)
[10:55] <maan84> dooglus: Not running windows, but thank you :)
[10:55] <Madpilot> Ng: interesting. I use other Real feeds, though, and they work fine in Totem... bah, audio is just a mess...
[10:55] <dooglus> maan84: I just used "locate" to find that font
[10:55] <Wilf> yes
[10:55] <Wilf> i got me a conf file.
[10:55] <Madpilot> k31th: do you mean ubuntu-doc channel?
[10:55] <Jowi> maan84: Arial and the like is used under licence. there is a package called msttcorefonts that downloads and installs the fonts from microsofts site
[10:55] <dooglus> locate .ttf
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Ng: are they reiventing the wheel or do their codecs have some special advantage over vorbis and friends?
[10:56] <maan84> Jowi: Ah ok, it don't have to be arial, just a readable ttf font that I can add in the ~/.mplayer/ directory so I can view subtitles, it appears to be missing, and I read that any ttf font would be ok to add there
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Jowi: actually it downloads from various sites - I don't think MS co-operate any more
[10:57] <Jowi> maan84: all installed fonts are in /usr/share/fonts/
[10:57] <maan84> Jowi: Thank you :)
[10:57] <Madpilot> isn't there an "mplayer-fonts" package specially for mplayer?
[10:57] <dooglus> would someone using 'breezy' please try installing and running 'sysv-rc-conf'.  is it broken?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: there is indeed
[10:58] <Jowi> thoreauputic: maybe it changed since last week then :-)
[10:58] <Ng> thoreauputic: pass, I think their dirac video stuff is aimed at working fine with broadcast resolution video
[10:58] <maan84> If there is, I don't seem to have it installed for mplayer :)
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Jowi: ? last time I installed msttcorefonts they came from several URLs ?
[10:58] <gabriel> hei i cant get nautilus to respond anymore how do i kill ilt and restart it?
[10:58] <Prower> Hmm...there's a fastcgi module for apache2, but there isn't a fastcgi package anywhere :/ Is it needed?
[10:59] <Jowi> thoreauputic: yep. and one of them was microsoft connected
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Jowi: ah, OK - my bad
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Jowi: I didn't notice that
[10:59] <dooglus> do you mean libapache-mod-fastcgi, Prower?
[10:59] <knowledge> Good night everyone...I'm out
[10:59] <dooglus> sorry - apache2?
[10:59] <Wilf> Jowi, thoreauputic: http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33289
[10:59] <dooglus> libapache2-mod-fastcgi then.
[11:00] <gabriel> can i only reboot to get nautilus to respond?
[11:00] <Prower> dooglus: Yes, that's right :> On other systems I've used there's also been a fastcgi package that was required for it to work, and in the Debian/Ubuntu guide for rails it also mentions it
[11:00] <dooglus> Prower: I never used it, sorry.
[11:01] <thoreauputic> Wilf: umm - login reuired
[11:01] <thoreauputic> *required
[11:01] <Wilf> oh -_-;
[11:01] <Prower> dooglus: Ahh, no problem, thanks...I'll just have to keep looking around
[11:01] <Jowi> thoreauputic: not important enough to fuzz about. just something i noticed while installing them that's all
[11:01] <Jowi> Wilf: pastebin
[11:01] <Jowi> !pastebin
[11:01] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:01] <thoreauputic> Jowi: sure - interesting though
[11:02] <Wilf> thanks :)
[11:02] <Wilf> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1573
[11:02] <Jowi> thoreauputic: sure is. makes me want to uninstall - reinstall just to doublecheck!
[11:03] <SSkroeder> Hi ... i'm new with ubuntu -- and i've got a question about getting software upgrades ... see, whenever i start gaim, it says to me, that a 1.5.0 version is available --- but when i use the update tool nothing happens .... how can i get gaim 1.5.0, so i don't get an anoying popup anymore ...
[11:03] <k31th> why can i not play mp3s in xmms
[11:03] <k31th> yet i can by hanging my mouse over the file
[11:03] <k31th> ??
[11:03] <Seveas> k31th: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[11:03] <k31th> Seveas: is that an option in xmms ?
[11:03] <Seveas> yes
[11:03] <Jowi> Wilf: run "sudo ddcprobe" again, take notice of the horiz and vertical refresh values because you need to enter them in xorg.conf
[11:04] <thoreauputic> Jowi: heheh - <tinfoilhat> MS have imbedded a trojan in the fonts!!  </tinfoilhat>
[11:04] <Wilf> ok
[11:05] <zcat[1] > /var/lib/defoma/gs.d/dirs/fonts/FreeSans.ttf ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf
[11:05] <zcat[1] > should work?
[11:05] <cafuego> thoreauputic: mr bush rang, he wants his hat back
[11:05] <zcat[1] > err ln -s all that...
[11:05] <Seveas> zcat[1] , yes
[11:05] <Jowi> thoreauputic: nah, they have been freely available for download for the past 5-6 years at least. but that tinfoilhat idea is brilliant!
[11:05] <maan84> Phew, worked so hard to get the *.mkt file running with sounds and videio and all, xine/totem/vlc failed but mplayer could play it, then subs don't work /cry :P
[11:05] <thoreauputic> cafuego: hahah
[11:05] <maan84> mkv*
[11:05] <k31th> damn this xmms has crashed
[11:05] <k31th> i cant find the pid out
[11:05] <k31th> it just hangs there
[11:06] <Wilf> Jowi: is a log of the ddcprobe kept anywhere?
[11:06] <Jowi> Wilf: nope, just prints to the screen. in section "Monitor" add something like this:      HorizSync          30-96
[11:06] <Jowi>      VertRefresh        50-160
[11:06] <Wilf> yep, but those values have scrolled up the screen
[11:06] <Wilf> before i could see them
[11:07] <Jowi> shift+pageup
[11:07] <Wilf> ah
[11:07] <Jowi> Wilf: mouse scrollwheel work too
[11:07] <Wilf> 31 - 69, 50 - 120
[11:08] <SSkroeder> Hi ... i'm new with ubuntu -- and i've got a question about getting software upgrades ... see, whenever i start gaim, it says to me, that a 1.5.0 version is available --- but when i use the update tool nothing happens .... how can i get gaim 1.5.0, so i don't get that anoying popup anymore ... ---anyone ?
[11:08] <Jowi> Wilf: so in xorg.conf, look for "Monitor" and as last option add: HorizSync 31-69
[11:09] <Wilf> ok
[11:09] <Jowi> Wilf: and:  VertRefresh 50-120
[11:09] <Prower> SSkroeder: Sorry, I don't think I've ever gotten a popup like that
[11:10] <neperju> huh?
[11:10] <thoreauputic> Jowi: http://zapatopi.net/afdb/  and  http://zapatopi.net/mindguard/  :D
[11:11] <SSkroeder> Prower: ... it's a popup from inside Gaim --stating that the 1.5.0 now is available - and several bugfixes and such have been resolved...
[11:11] <Jowi> thoreauputic: lol!
[11:12] <thoreauputic> Jowi: the program is a hoot ;D
[11:12] <cafuego> SSkroeder: Any chance it's a spam with a worm download?
[11:12] <deFrysk> SSkroeder, stable version of ubuntu does only do security patches , package versions are frozen till stable next release comes out
[11:12] <Prower> SSkroeder: Oh, I know what you mean, yeah...I've just never got them in Ubuntu before
[11:12] <Pogopuschel-> Download and compile it yourself
[11:12] <Pogopuschel-> http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
[11:13] <deFrysk> SSkroeder, only safe option for newer packages is the backports repo
[11:13] <SSkroeder> deFrysk: how often are new stable versions made ...
[11:13] <cafuego> SSkroeder: every 6 months
[11:13] <deFrysk> SSkroeder, every half year, in april and october
[11:14] <SSkroeder> ok
[11:14] <Jowi> thoreauputic: i like this quote: "MindGuard -- the name known and trusted by Amiga users for a decade. Now available for Linux. Use Linux, because THEY don't want you to."
[11:14] <Prower> SSkroeder: You could use the 1.4 version in backports, that works well
[11:14] <Jowi> i laughed so hard i got a headache, thanks
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Jowi: heheh - yeah the whole site is very funny: note the license "MGPL"  ;)
[11:15] <SSkroeder> Prower: as in : just keep on using the version, im using now because all the security fixes a bound to come ?
[11:15] <deFrysk> SSkroeder, ubuntu-developers are working hard to make the packages work properly and stable , so safest way is to stick to the ubuntu repositories
[11:16] <SSkroeder> Ok ;-)
[11:16] <Wilf> uh oh :\
[11:16] <imsick> hello
[11:17] <Jowi> Wilf: ?
[11:17] <Wilf> startx
[11:17] <rwabel> hi
[11:17] <Wilf> screen stopped responding (light went orange)
[11:17] <rwabel> is it normal that when upgrading (dist-upgrade) from hoary to breezy over 100packages get removed?
[11:17] <penny> startx 2 > mylog
[11:17] <Jowi> did you put in the vertical refresh as well?
[11:17] <Wilf> yes
[11:17] <Jowi> good
[11:17] <penny> nano mylog
[11:17] <Wilf> dinner, back in a while.
[11:18] <penny> O.O
[11:19] <Madpilot> penny: wrong window?
[11:20] <Jowi> Wilf: next step is to remove your faulty resolutions. in the xorg.conf only use the following modes: "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"  for all colordepths and delete the rest. you can add them later if 1024x768 works fine. that will do the trick. I'm off to watch a movie now
[11:20] <Prower> SSkroeder: Security updates are done for the packages, but they're not necessarily bumped up to the latest version at that time...so you can be pretty confident the version you're using is secure, just not the newest
[11:20] <SSkroeder> Prower:  ok ...
[11:20] <penny> cinema
[11:22] <Jowi> cu guys
[11:23] <bartekp> hi
[11:24] <pef> hello
[11:27] <Madpilot> back in a bit - actually need to shut this box down for the first time in a week...
[11:31] <mediamill> anyone using ubuntu as a production hosting server?
[11:32] <Wilf> ok, back.
[11:32] <Wilf> so i've entered my monitor settings incorrectly
[11:33] <Di42lo> hello
[11:33] <Prower> mediamill: I will be once I have apache configured and everything :>
[11:34] <Di42lo> how can i compile my dialer to the internet in ubuntu if i dont have internet and i cant install gcc
[11:34] <mediamill> I just managed to do Apache2 with php, perl mysql, and phpmyadmin via synaptic. have not checked the config yet but its running.
[11:35] <Di42lo> mediamill: it was designed to be running
[11:35] <gabriel> reboted and nautilus now working again. when i get to shared folder on wxp machine i get prompted for username and password. no user password combination works.. not even blank. how can i gain access to folder?
[11:36] <joseph> i can connect to messenger but cant move on to other internet sites other then file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html.....helppp whats wrong
[11:38] <joseph> it says the operation timeed out when attemptin to connect to www. blah blah.com....need help..i can only connect to messanger but cant go to other sites other thanfile:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[11:38] <joseph> helllllpppppppppppp
[11:39] <penny> ...
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> any gues how long 14GB will take to put into a tar.bz2?
[11:39] <penny> kidding
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> Kamping_Kaiser: a long time
[11:39] <gabriel> when i get shared password wrong 10 times or more i get a nautilus hang. how do i unfreez it?
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. was hoping for a closer figure ;)
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> Kamping_Kaiser: also gzip would be better
[11:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> gzip? why?
[11:39] <HrdwrBoB> bzip2 would hammer your CPU
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh it is
[11:40] <penny> really?
[11:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> joseph: can you ping websites by ip address?
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> so no ;|
[11:41] <Wilf> how do i list all process ID's
[11:41] <can-o-worms> i have a samba share on a ubuntu box that i can access with linux or windows, but not from osx... i know there is nothing wrong with the osx box because it can access a samba share on a gentoo box i have .... anyone seen anything like this?
[11:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ps or top?
[11:41] <penny> ps uax
[11:43] <kemik> can-o-worms:  well your sambashare seem to work aswell since you can acces it from windows/linux ;)
[11:43] <kemik> can-o-worms:  but it does seem strange
[11:43] <Di42lo> how can i compile my dialer to the internet in ubuntu if i dont have internet and i cant install gcc?
[11:43] <can-o-worms> kemik: it is really strange... it actually locks finder up
[11:44] <kemik> can-o-worms:  maybe you mistyped the adress? or blokcing the OSX machine in a firewall ?
[11:44] <kemik> Di42lo:  apt-get install build-essential.. it could be on the CD, im not sure
[11:44] <kemik> !compile
[11:44] <ubotu> somebody said compile was tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[11:44] <kemik> !compiling
[11:45] <can-o-worms> kemik: i am just doubling clicking the icon in osx, and there is no firewall, the gentoo box is 192.168.0.8 and ubuntu is 192.168.0.6
[11:45] <ubuntunobuntu> hi there. ive got some noob question: How can I set an alarm for birthdays in Evolution?
[11:45] <can-o-worms> kemik: do you have an osx box?
[11:46] <kemik> can-o-worms:  so the share "appears" on the network, but trying to access it hangs you OSX application (finder)
[11:46] <kemik> can-o-worms:  luckily no ;) hehe
[11:46] <can-o-worms> kemik: exactly... but windows and another ubuntu box have no problem with it
[11:47] <kemik> and the gentoo box and ubuntu box has the same settings for their shares? (access-wise)
[11:47] <kemik> can-o-worms:  gentoo and ubuntu using hte same version of samba?
[11:47] <can-o-worms> kemik: not exactly, i tried copying the config file straight over and had a few problems
[11:48] <can-o-worms> kemik: but the actually share part is the same.... the global has a couple of different parts
[11:48] <can-o-worms> kemik: do you use samba?
[11:49] <mediamill> big respects to all involved in ubuntu, just installed it and I'm very impressed. My new favorite distro
[11:49] <kemik> can-o-worms:  not much these days.. since i've migrated all my computers to debian / ubuntu .. but sometimes i dualboot this one to windows... so yes i use samba but mostly NFS
[11:50] <kemik> mediamill:  nice ;)
[11:50] <Madpilot> how do I check to see if a SCSI device has been detected by Ubuntu?
[11:51] <michi-23123> hello, please help me
[11:51] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: look in dmesg?
[11:51] <michi-23123> does anyone know how to mount a usb stick on solaris
[11:52] <can-o-worms> kemik: it is just that the unbuntu starter guide talks about using a smbusers file, but i just use smbpasswd file
[11:52] <michi-23123> very impotan
[11:52] <michi-23123> very important
[11:52] <kemik> michi-23123:  solaris ?
[11:52] <michi-23123> sun solaris
[11:52] <michi-23123> unix
[11:53] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: how can I use the massive output from dmesg and find any mention of SCSI?
[11:53] <kemik> michi-23123:  and this is #ubuntu -linux
[11:53] <michi-23123> i know
[11:53] <Wilf> Jowi, thoreauputic: I WIN!
[11:53] <Wilf> THANKS SO MUCH!
[11:54] <michi-23123> but perhaps there is someboy who knows this
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: pipe it to less
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Wilf: how did you fix it?
[11:54] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[11:54] <kemik> michi-23123:  i'd imagine solaris and ubuntu differs quite alot
[11:54] <Wilf> thoreauputic, horizontal and vertical frequencies
[11:54] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: thanks, should have thought of that...
[11:54] <thoreauputic> ah!
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Wilf: congrats 1
[11:55] <thoreauputic> heh s/1/!
[11:55] <clem_yeats> michi-23123: join #solaris and ask there
[11:55] <Wilf> ^_^
[11:55] <kemik> can-o-worms:  dont know what can be causing you problems really. could be a bug, bad-config etc..  :/
[11:57] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: or dmesg | grep -i SCSI    I suppose  ?
[11:57] <can-o-worms> kemik: yeah... thanks for your time... thoreauputic might know something
[11:57] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: do you use samba with your mac?
[11:58] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: hmmm, that gives no output, but I did see something about scsi when I piped to less and read the blasted thing...
[11:59] <thoreauputic> can-o-worms: yes, but it tends to be slow - I use ssh/scp for preference
[11:59] <thoreauputic> can-o-worms: of course that's mostly about me being too lazy to configure samba properly ;)
[12:00] <Madpilot> old-school SCSI tech is great - so *clumsy* compared to USB... ;)
[12:00] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: well, i have a share on a ubuntu box that locks up finder when i try to open it
[12:00] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: but i can open the share from linux and windows without a problem
[12:01] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: the osx box is ok, because it doesn't have any problems opening a samba share on a gentoo box
[12:01] <thoreauputic> can-o-worms: so I gathered - I'm afraid I'm no samba expert - I use nfs and scp here
[12:01] <thoreauputic> although nfs with OS-X is a pain too...
[12:01] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: fair enough... i suppose it is just a matter of pulling out some more hair
[12:01] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:04] <linux_ubuntu> hello room
[12:05] <steve_> hello
[12:05] <linux_ubuntu> is there anyone can help me?
[12:05] <Madpilot> linux_ubuntu: that depends on your questions
[12:06] <zaphands> Hello everyone! After activating firestarter firewall I can't access my LAN. I'm using eth0 for my modem, eth1 for LAN's router and I don't want internet connection sharing.
[12:06] <linux_ubuntu> my browser is not working at all
[12:06] <linux_ubuntu> dialup connects correctly
[12:07] <linux_ubuntu> is there a problem with firefox?
[12:07] <Wilf> ok all up and running :D
[12:07] <Wilf> how do i make it fluxbox instead of gnome?
[12:07] <steve_> is there any1 in here from blackpool
[12:08] <linux_ubuntu> is this room alive?
[12:08] <Ex_Cyber> linux_ubuntu: what happens when you try to access a web site?
[12:09] <linux_ubuntu> it says could not find address check and try again
[12:09] <Madpilot> linux_ubuntu: try google.com or something that you *know* won't be down...
[12:10] <Ex_Cyber> no
[12:10] <Ex_Cyber> if the address can't be found it doesn't matter if the remote site is down
[12:10] <Ex_Cyber> as you can't contact it to begin with
[12:11] <linux_ubuntu> i tried every thing i know like yahoo and msn
[12:11] <linux_ubuntu> my modem is lucent win modem
[12:11] <Madpilot> linux_ubuntu: are you on dailup right now? IRC is working, then?
[12:11] <linux_ubuntu> no i am at other pc now
[12:12] <linux_ubuntu> i check in the terminal window that ip's assigned correctly
[12:12] <Ex_Cyber> linux_ubuntu: can you paste the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[12:12] <Ex_Cyber> also, do you have an ethernet interface on your system?
[12:12] <Ex_Cyber> or any other network interface besides loopback
[12:12] <Madpilot> linux_ubuntu: I haven't used dailup in a long time, and never w/ Linux, sorry...
[12:13] <linux_ubuntu> will it be good to use linux on dial up
[12:13] <linux_ubuntu> coz there are lots of mbs data to download
[12:14] <Ex_Cyber> so far it's worked better than XP for me with this ISP, after tweaking some settings that had REALLY strange defaults in Ubuntu
[12:14] <Ex_Cyber> but this ISP isn't very good
[12:14] <Ex_Cyber> either that or something is wrong with my brother's modem
[12:15] <Ex_Cyber> but if you want to do full updates and such prepare to be waiting a while
[12:15] <linux_ubuntu> it will take long time to download from web
[12:15] <Ex_Cyber> if you have an unmetered connection you can probably learn to cope
[12:15] <linux_ubuntu> this is 56k modem
[12:15] <Ex_Cyber> I usually browse with images turned off to speed things up... you don't *need* to do that if your connection is decent, but it helps
[12:16] <stretched_lobes> hello
[12:16] <Ex_Cyber> I just need to do it because performance is really inconsistent on my connection
[12:16] <DocTomoe> linux_ubuntu: so what? Windows Up^MPatches are hardly small :)
[12:16] <linux_ubuntu> some one told me tweak DNS setting . have any idea?
[12:17] <jtan325> does anyone here know anything about maintaining debian/ubuntu packages?
[12:17] <stretched_lobes> i am having a problem configuring my router/phone adapter that came with vonage
[12:17] <DocTomoe> linux_ubuntu: How long have you used linux? Changing DNS is something beginners should not do.
[12:17] <stretched_lobes> what tools if any do i neetd to fix this
[12:17] <Ng> DocTomoe: ?!
[12:17] <linux_ubuntu> its been a week now
[12:17] <Madpilot> jtan325: might want to ask on ubuntu-devel
[12:18] <jtan325> Madpilot, i asked on ubuntu-motu
[12:18] <Ng> DocTomoe: are you saying editing a small file, or using a gui program is beyond a new user?
[12:18] <jtan325> not getting a word...
[12:18] <jtan325> like when i ask any n00b question, politely
[12:18] <jtan325> i seem to be ignored :-(
[12:18] <morbidi> jtan325: ask
[12:18] <DocTomoe> Ng: I am saying changing system-critical files without an idea what may happen is not a good thing to do
[12:18] <jtan325> morbidi, i am building a package for a pretty simple program
[12:18] <chrys_seren> hi
[12:18] <Madpilot> jtan325: ah, OK. not sure what the difference is between -motu and -devel - but somebody here might know anyway...
[12:18] <jtan325> i am following the new maintainer's guide
[12:19] <Ng> DocTomoe: DNS isn't that system-critical and it's clearly broken already
[12:19] <jtan325> and i have reached the chapter on building
[12:19] <jtan325> now, i think i've done all the steps correctly
[12:19] <Ex_Cyber> DocTomoe: yeah, if he edits /etc/resolv.conf his name resolution might break... :/
[12:19] <morbidi> jtan325: that's not a n00b question
[12:19] <jtan325> lol
[12:19] <jtan325> just wait
[12:19] <chrys_seren> i upgraded *something* (linux-headers?) yesterday together with a small unrelated install -- thought it was a security update...
[12:19] <morbidi> I never made a package
[12:19] <zaphands> Anyone undestands the iptables?
[12:19] <chrys_seren> and now have a kernel panic on my hands:
[12:19] <stretched_lobes> I have a networking area and also network tools on the system
[12:19] <jtan325> set up my rules, my control, my copyright
[12:20] <DocTomoe> Ex_Cyber: linux_ubuntu states that he has one mere week of experience with linux. do you think that this level of beginner should really work as root?
[12:20] <stretched_lobes> any other programs to help
[12:20] <Ng> zaphands: probably several of us
[12:20] <DocTomoe> probably he even has not any clue of the shell.
[12:20] <chrys_seren> (reiser fs on /dev/hd6, i think, unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)
[12:20] <Ng> DocTomoe: if he wants his DNS to work, I reckon it'd be a good start
[12:20] <morbidi> zaphands: ask
[12:20] <Ex_Cyber> DocTomoe: considering that the alternative is to not have a system that is useful, yes
[12:20] <zaphands> I can't access the LAN after activating firestarter
[12:20] <Ng> deactivate firestarter then ;)
[12:21] <penny> ...
[12:21] <DocTomoe> Ng: He states that his connection is slow. he also states that his system uses a 56k modem. I do not see how fucking up the DNS configuration can solve this.
[12:21] <Ng> zaphands: can you ping anything on the LAN after? and can anything else on the lan ping you?
[12:21] <Madpilot> later, everyone
[12:21] <zaphands> Ng: ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[12:21] <Ex_Cyber> DocTomoe: he says that he can't get his browser to resolve addresses
[12:22] <penny> ping loopback,localhost,getway and ...
[12:22] <penny> traceroute
[12:22] <Ex_Cyber> in any case, I asked to see resolv.conf, I did not suggest editing it blindly
[12:22] <Ng> DocTomoe: well I wasn't paying all that much attention, but I'm pretty sure he was saying he couldn't resolve things, so it's not working and slow, it's broken. also there's no need to swear
[12:22] <jtan325> the problem i am running into, when i do "debuild -us -uc", is i get stuff about
[12:22] <Ng> zaphands: sudo ping then ;)
[12:23] <DocTomoe> My wrong, *that* info I didn't get.
[12:23] <jtan325> cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub
[12:23] <jtan325> cp: `/usr/share/misc/config.sub' and `config.sub' are the same file
[12:23] <jtan325> make: *** [clean]  Error 1
[12:23] <jtan325> and i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong
[12:23] <penny> ...
[12:23] <penny> ......
[12:24] <Ng> jtan325: do you have a config.sub symlink in your source tree?
[12:24] <jtan325> i think so?
[12:24] <jtan325> yes
[12:24] <zaphands> Ng: Would you care to look at my `iptables -L`? (i'll paste it to #flood)
[12:25] <linux_ubuntu> my firefox is not recognising my dialup connection
[12:25] <linux_ubuntu> so no browsing
[12:25] <morbidi> linux_ubuntu: can you ping something ?
[12:25] <ndlovu> I'm trying to install java, but apt can't find the package (E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5). Wrong repositories?
[12:25] <linux_ubuntu> i tried dig www.google.com
[12:26] <jtan325> Ng, did you have an idea about it?
[12:26] <linux_ubuntu> it said some dns error
[12:26] <Ng> zaphands: could you use pastebin instead?
[12:26] <zaphands> Ng: sure
[12:26] <Ng> jtan325: I'm just wondering if your source has a config.sub symlink to /usr/share whatever, if so rm it
[12:26] <ndlovu> have checked the wiki and ubuntuguide and followed those instructions
[12:26] <jtan325> my program does have to run aclocal, libtoolize, autoheader, automake, and autoconf before the "./configure"
[12:27] <linux_ubuntu> i tried apt-get update and it go well
[12:27] <jtan325> Ng, yeah i will try that
[12:27] <jamal> halo kenalan dong
[12:27] <chrys_seren> all right, i'll boot from cd and have a look at the grub's menu.lst, but if it doesn't work, i'll be back.
[12:27] <zaphands> Ng: Is it #pastebin?
[12:28] <Ex_Cyber> linux_ubuntu: if the update really happened it should take at least a few minutes on dialup
[12:28] <Wilf> how do i go about making ubuntu run fluxbox?
[12:28] <ApellA> good afternoon
[12:28] <Wilf> !fluxbox
[12:28] <ubotu> Wilf: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:28] <Wilf> :(
[12:28] <apokryphos> Wilf: install it?
[12:28] <Ng> zaphands: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[12:28] <linux_ubuntu> yes it did good for some time
[12:28] <jamal> halo
[12:28] <Wilf> apokryphos, is it that easy?
[12:29] <apokryphos> Wilf: probably
[12:29] <ApellA> wilf: never tought about it? :)
[12:29] <Wilf> gnome on a P1 166 with 96mb of ram is bad
[12:29] <ApellA> wilf: if it doesnt work, just deinstall it again, and gone is that problem:)
[12:30] <apokryphos> Wilf: thoreauputic is the one to ask ;-)
[12:30] <Wilf> he is good
[12:30] <Wilf> or she
[12:30] <kemik> Wilf:  use IceWm on such slow system
[12:30] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: no factoid for fluxbox? :/
[12:30] <Wilf> IceWM?
[12:30] <Wilf> ok
[12:30] <kemik> Wilf:  im running icewm on my p2-233 64mb ram laptop
[12:30] <zaphands> Ng: Done.
[12:30] <Wilf> is it better for slower systems?
[12:30] <kemik> Wilf:  icewm is designed to use as little resources as possible
[12:31] <ApellA> anyone knows something about scripting? I would like to make a scipt that shuts down esd just by using a click instead of allways going to the menu and so on
[12:31] <Wilf> ah, i'll use that then
[12:31] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: the hoary package for fluxbox has... some issues
[12:31] <kemik> "The goal of IceWM is speed, simplicity, and not getting in the user's way."
[12:31] <linux_ubuntu> does anyone have answer for me?
[12:31] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: usable?
[12:31] <Wilf> can i just install it?
[12:31] <ndlovu> does anyone know why java's not in the repositories (sun-j2re1.5)?
[12:32] <kemik> ApellA:  touch killesd.sh ; echo "sudo killall esd" ; chmod a+x killesd.sh ;  perhaps. ;)
[12:32] <ApellA> linux_ubuntu: what is your question? (came in only later
[12:32] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: for some people it works fine, others have troubles: the answer is to recompile using --disable-xmb
[12:32] <kemik> ndlovu:  licensing issues i think
[12:32] <ApellA> kemik: thx
[12:33] <kemik> oh.. that echo line is wrong of course
[12:33] <Ex_Cyber> linux_ubuntu: do you have any other networking interfaces on your system?
[12:33] <ndlovu> kemik: is that a new development? I know I've installed it on a computer less than a week ago
[12:33] <kemik> echo "sudo killall esd" > killesd.sh
[12:33] <ApellA> ok, i'm not really getting it:)
[12:33] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: it's in hoary-extras, but the mirror ahd an inaccurate Packages.gz a few hours ago
[12:34] <kemik> ndlovu:  jre is in some repository not the official ones
[12:34] <thoreauputic> !get java
[12:34] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I haven't a clue
[12:34] <thoreauputic> hah
[12:34] <Ng> zaphands: did it give you a url to give me so I can see it? ;)
[12:34] <thoreauputic> bob2 must have wiped his factoid
[12:34] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: thanks, so in other words just wait for a while until it comes back?
[12:35] <Ng> zaphands: actually, never mind, I found it
[12:35] <zaphands> Ng: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344885
[12:35] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: do you have hoary-extras ? If so yes
[12:35] <HrdwrBoB> !java
[12:35] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:35] <Ng> zaphands: :)
[12:35] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: the other way is to download the deb directly with wget
[12:35] <ndlovu> kemik: I have all the unofficial repositories installed, so it should be there.
[12:35] <thoreauputic> HrdwrBoB: the repo has a problem
[12:36] <kemik> ndlovu:  follow the guide ubotu opsted
[12:36] <kemik> oh
[12:36] <kemik> or listen to thoreauputic
[12:36] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic: ah
[12:36] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: but won't that possibly give issues in the future with upgrades and the like?
[12:36] <Ng> zaphands: my first reaction is that firestarter is junk, but let me read on ;)
[12:36] <thoreauputic> ... unless it's been fixed
[12:36] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: I meant d/l it from the repo itself
[12:37] <thoreauputic> ndlovu: same deb..
[12:37] <thoreauputic> Ng: firestarter is fine: PEBCAK
[12:38] <HrdwrBoB> my first reaction to firestarter is: why are you bothering
[12:38] <ApellA> kemik: sorry for being such a pain in the ass (:)) but could you plz give the command again (correct) cause it doesnt really work:)
[12:38] <zaphands> Is there a better firewall gui?
[12:39] <ndlovu> thoreauputic: thanks for the advice. will wait a few hours and if it's still not there will try wget.
[12:39] <Ng> thoreauputic: does it not do stateful firewalls though? I can construct the same firewall as this by hand in a very few lines :)
[12:39] <Ng> zaphands: I tend to believe that the only way is to do it by hand, but I appreciate that that is too complex for many people to be bothered with
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Ng: I wasn't commenting on elegance ;) Just that it works...
[12:39] <Ng> zaphands: I'd suggest setting your OUTPUT policy to ACCEPt, there's usually little point bothering with output rules
[12:40] <ApellA> kemik: sorry for being such a pain in the ass (:)) but could you plz give the command again (correct) cause it doesnt really work:)
[12:41] <ApellA> wow, suddenly, it all was quit
[12:41] <zaphands> Ng: How do I do that?
[12:42] <Ng> zaphands: I'm afraid I don't know firestarter. the iptables command would be "sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT"
[12:42] <zaphands> Ng: Got it. nevermind.
[12:42] <why-oh-why> Hi!  How can I reboot your computer remotely on Solaris?
[12:43] <TraceGreen> Hello, if i boot linux with bootsplash, then, i will find /proc/splash, is it right?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> why-oh-why: erm, ssh ubuntu.box.box ; sudo shutdown -r now  ?
[12:44] <zaphands> Ng: That is not the rule that's blocking my LAN though.
[12:45] <Ng> zaphands: you'll probably need to add a rule allowing your lan ip range access
[12:45] <zaphands> Ng: Did I say I use two network interfaces? eth0 for modem and eth1 for LAN?
[12:47] <zaphands> Ng: ACCEPT     all  --  192.168.1.1          anywhere
[12:47] <zaphands> ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             192.168.1.1
[12:47] <zaphands>  Doesn't work. :-S
[12:47] <thoreauputic> zaphands: in the policy tab of firestarter you should be able to right-click in the policy fields to add rules... Maybe easier than hacking iptables for you (or me for that matter ;) )
[12:47] <Ng> zaphands: well I don't know then, it's a firestarter problem
[12:48] <zaphands> Ng: How can I do it with iptables?
[12:48] <Wilf> god i'm dumb
[12:48] <Wilf> i've just downloaded the AMSN .deb
[12:48] <Wilf> how do i install it?
[12:49] <Ng> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[12:49] <thoreauputic> Wilf: hmm - no need to do that
[12:49] <zaphands> thoreauputic: That's what I did...
[12:49] <why-oh-why> Milf?
[12:49] <NanoBCN> Wilf, not happy with Gaim?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> Wilf: amsn is in the universe repo afaik
[12:49] <Wilf> i prefer AMSN
[12:49] <Ng> zaphands: sudo iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT
[12:49] <Ng> zaphands: that will allow 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.254 to access your machine
[12:49] <Wilf> dpkg!
[12:49] <Wilf> it's coming back :|
[12:50] <Wilf> thanks Ng
[12:50] <bonvenon> Wilf: sudo apt-get install amsn
[12:50] <zaphands> Ng: What does the "/24" mean?
[12:50] <Ng> zaphands: the same as /255.255.255.0 but in CIDR form - ie a netmask
[12:50] <thoreauputic> Wilf: why are you downloading debs? use the apt tools to get your stuff as bonvenon suggested
[12:51] <Wilf> thoreauputic, it can't find package amsn
[12:51] <Wilf> my lists must be outdated...
[12:52] <thoreauputic> Wilf: enable universe repo
[12:52] <thoreauputic> !repos
[12:52] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:52] <thoreauputic> !info amsn
[12:52] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[12:52] <Wilf> ah
[12:52] <Wilf> thanks
[12:52] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:52] <repete> Hi all
[12:52] <repete> Anyone know if the 20050823 ISO was broken?
[12:53] <Wilf> this is good
[12:53] <Wilf> so much faster then 98
[12:54] <zaphands> Ng: It's not working. How do I remove the rule?
[12:54] <Stormx> Hi Sexies
[12:54] <Ng> zaphands: same command again, but with "-D INPUT" instead of "-I INPUT 1"
[12:55] <zaphands> Ng: Maybe I need an output rule as well.
[12:56] <Ng> zaphands: the output policy should be ACCEPT really, unless you have specific need to block outbound traffic
[12:56] <ijal> GESIT
[12:57] <PPower> I am getting Bad Header Line error when connecting to the official ubuntu respritory
[12:57] <zaphands> Ng: iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT Worked! Thanks.
[12:57] <bilge> Hi, I have mysql server and client running, all okay, but i cannot connect to the machine remotely, my db permissions look fine. If i port scan, 3306 does not show? What do i need to do to get remote access working?
[12:57] <zaphands> Ng: Replacing INPUT=OUTPUT.
[12:58] <Stormx> bilge: Port Forward?
[12:59] <Ng> zaphands: also change -s to -d
[12:59] <Ng> (for the OUTPUT one)
[12:59] <zaphands> Ng: Will these settings be saved after reboot?
[12:59] <tahorg> anyone can tell me my 12 applets use 104MB in _RSS_ in breezy ?
[12:59] <Ng> zaphands: no
[01:00] <Ng> tahorg: how much of that is shared though?
[01:00] <tahorg> it uses about 42MB on hoary
[01:00] <Ng> also, linux memory reporting is rubbish ;)
[01:00] <Stormx> PPower: Try using the official repo list
[01:00] <Stormx> !repo
[01:00] <tahorg> Ng: RSS, which means Resident
[01:00] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Stormx
[01:00] <Stormx> !repos
[01:00] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:00] <tahorg> Ng: in virtual it's about the double
[01:00] <PPower> Stormx: I am, I used the one from the Synaptic dropdown combo
[01:01] <Stormx> PPower: You can get errors, its normal, or so Seveas told me.
[01:01] <Ng> tahorg: RSS is code and data, can not the code section include shared libraries and so on?
[01:01] <Ng> virtual is the full map, ignore it, it means nothing
[01:01] <PPower> Would I have better luck with a mirror. I have been getting these error all day and quite a lot last week.
[01:02] <zaphands> Thanks everyone! goodbye.
[01:05] <TraceGreen> Hello, what's the relationship between bootsplash and grub/lilo?
[01:06] <PPower> Are you talking about Project Bootsplash?
[01:08] <repete> TraceGreen: what are you trying to do?
[01:09] <TraceGreen> repete, i want to add bootsplash into knoppix, work just like gnoppix
[01:09] <selinium> hi all, how do you start xmms without it starting a tab on the desktop?
[01:10] <battletux> does anyone know whats going on with the repos?
[01:10] <nerdy2> battletux: something off with them?
[01:11] <battletux> yeah the backports dont seem to jave and a few other packages on them
[01:11] <selinium> battletux: I can find no issue with them
[01:11] <battletux> hmm starge
[01:11] <battletux> brb
[01:12] <thoreauputic> battletux: bob2 said the backports Packages.gz was wrong
[01:12] <thoreauputic> a few hours back anyway
[01:12] <selinium> battletux: java ?    sun-j2re1.5 ?
[01:12] <selinium> hi thoreauputic!
[01:13] <thoreauputic> hi selinium
[01:13] <PPower> TraceGreen: If you are talking about the www.bootsplash.org one then I dunno. But I would like someone to explain to me how to set up the usertools
[01:13] <Seveas> battletux/selinium, you can grab a java deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:13] <selinium> Hi Seveas, cool
[01:13] <Seveas> these packages aren't as brain-dead as the ones from hoary-extras
[01:13] <Seveas> ie: no newer libgcc needed
[01:14] <battletux> selinium yeah sorry j2rel1.5
[01:14] <TraceGreen> PPower, what do you mean?
[01:14] <PPower> Well the main server is still down: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release.gpg: Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[01:14] <Seveas> PPower, I get no such problem here...
[01:14] <repete> TraceGreen: yea, sorry, bootsplash is a bit of a dark art that i never properly understood
[01:14] <PPower> TraceGreen:When you say bootsplash do you mean the one from bootsplash.org
[01:14] <Seveas> PPower, tru us.archive or se.archive if the problem persists
[01:15] <PPower> Thanks
[01:15] <TraceGreen> PPower, hes. :-)
[01:15] <repete> wasn't sure if you had a simple "how to I tell grub I want to use a bootsplash?" questions :-)
[01:15] <PPower> Well you add splash=silent or whatever to the bootline
[01:15] <TraceGreen> repete, actually, no. i want to add bootsplash to knoppix liveCD
[01:15] <repete> right, saw that...
[01:15] <PPower> Well you will have to remake the cd
[01:16] <PPower> or DVD :-)
[01:16] <Stormx> PPower: Isn't it a case of just copying the image over and editing grub?
[01:16] <repete> Is it possible to do a network install of Ubuntu?
[01:16] <repete> I'm trying to fix a failed install...
[01:17] <Stormx> Also, while anyone is here, can someone tell me why alien isn't working: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/344533
[01:17] <PPower> Stormx:Well from what it says on the webpage it involves adding the splash to the initrd and then calling up the splash from GRUB. Can anyone give me a guide to set up a splash on my box. From the bit where there is those strange commands for the init.
[01:18] <selinium> Seveas: DO you know of a way of starting xmms without it creating a tab? I want to use gxmms but it seems silly to have xmms refenced all over the shop
[01:18] <selinium> referenced*
[01:18] <thoreauputic> Stormx: because you are tring to use alien on a *tar.gz
[01:18] <Stormx> thoreauputic: >.< But seveas said you couuuld
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Stormx: only if it's a slackware package ( .tgz)
[01:19] <Seveas> 'tab'?
[01:19] <Seveas> as in: an icon in your taskbar?
[01:19] <thoreauputic> Stormx: yours is probably source code or maybe a binary - either way you need to untar it
[01:19] <Seveas> Stormx, no
[01:20] <Seveas> alien can work on .tgz - if it is a slackware package
[01:20] <Seveas> .tar.gz is impossible
[01:20] <thoreauputic> Seveas: erm.. I told him above, in case you didn't notice
[01:20] <mjr> is there an easy way to fetch all dependencies for certain packages, regardless of whether they're installed? (apt-get -d --reinstall gets the packages themselves, but no dependencies)
[01:21] <selinium> Seveas: yes the icon in the task bar. It is taking up valuable space! :)
[01:21] <mjr> (if said dependencies are installed, that is)
[01:21] <toosey> how can i prevent apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade linux-image* ?
[01:21] <battletux> Seveas: thanks for your repo, jre is now installing :)
[01:21] <n> How do I regenerate a configure file?
[01:21] <Seveas> selinium, ENOCLUE about that
[01:21] <Seveas> n, dpkg-reconfigure
[01:22] <NanoBCN> hi guys, any of you running Breezy?
[01:22] <selinium> Seveas: Cheers :)
[01:22] <repete> NanoBCN: I would be if I could get it installed :-)
[01:22] <n> seveas: umm, no. I mean I just changed some files in /conf/m4 (of some source code)
[01:23] <NanoBCN> repete, :( I can use that as an answer to what I wanted to ask...
[01:24] <Seveas> n, download the tarball again :)
[01:24] <NanoBCN> I was about to ask if breeze was mature enough to migrate already
[01:24] <repete> NanoBCN: sorry, dude. Just frustrated..
[01:24] <Seveas> NanoBCN, not if you want a stable system
[01:25] <NanoBCN> I migrated to hoary long before it was released and looked pretty stable to me
[01:25] <NanoBCN> that's why I asked
[01:25] <NanoBCN> but I guess I can wait a couple of months more
[01:27] <bonvenon> can someone help me figure out why my usb memory no longer mounts automagicly?
[01:27] <shinu> hello everyone
[01:28] <selinium> NanoBCN: People have installed it and cant even get x running
[01:28] <shinu> hwo do i check what process is still using some folder?
[01:28] <shinu> how*
[01:28] <NanoBCN> selinium, I'll wait. Thanks
[01:28] <bonvenon> I'm running hoary, but with a breezy kernel. I guess that might be the problem, but now I don't even get it to work in the old one...
[01:29] <wolki> NanoBCN: you can try the live cd to see if it works
[01:30] <selinium> wolki: Hadn't even thought about that!
[01:31] <bonvenon> anyone?!
[01:31] <NanoBCN> woki, I'm affraid it's not enough since it might change when installing it
[01:31] <NanoBCN> wolki, sorry
[01:32] <selinium> Seveas: I just auto upgraded with your repo up. It has installed transcode as well. That isn't likely to cause any trouble is it?
[01:33] <battletux> hmm it seems acroread 7 has also disappeared from the backports
[01:33] <selinium> NanoBCN: Live CD just loads into memory. it does not over right your system? Does it?
[01:33] <mwest> is it possible to do a network installation of Hoary via FTP instead of HTTP?
[01:34] <mwest> it looks like the installer is hardcoded to tag "http://" in front of the source mirror :-(
[01:34] <thoreauputic> battletux: it will still be there - the problem is the file Packages.gz is wrong so apt can't find stuff
[01:35] <Seveas> selinium, it's transcode from breezy
[01:35] <battletux> thoreauputic: that may explain also why the mirrormax servers seem down for me, thanks
[01:35] <Seveas> selinium, and the server is NOT online 24/7, so apt-get update may fail at times if you have it in your sources.list
[01:36] <toosey> how can i teach apt-get dist-upgrade not to upgrade linux-image* ?
[01:36] <Seveas> pin it
[01:36] <shinu> can mkfs.vfat make a filesystem on a drive of 20gb in 5 seconds?
[01:36] <Seveas> or put it on version lock in synaptic
[01:37] <selinium> Seveas: Does that meann it will not function. I switched the repo on when you did the wammu/gammu stuff. I switch it stright off
[01:37] <siretart> can please anyone with breezy try to open a png file with the gimp? - this fails for me because of some missing input filter
[01:37] <siretart> I cannot image which package I would miss. can someone confirm this before I make a bugreport?
[01:37] <Seveas> selinium, the server does work, I just switch the thing off at night
[01:38] <Seveas> at that time apt-get update will fail on it ;)
[01:38] <Seveas> siretart, libpng?
[01:38] <selinium> Seveas: I don't have your repo in my list all the time. I meant will the transcode work? :)
[01:38] <thoreauputic> battletux: mirrormax is pingable so it isn't actually down
[01:38] <Seveas> the transcode will work :)
[01:39] <battletux> thoreauputic: for me apt-get update wont retreve listings from thoses servers
[01:39] <siretart> Seveas: is installed.
[01:39] <thoreauputic> battletux: right, the Packages.gz is misconfigured somehow
[01:40] <battletux> oh well i'll just try in a few days see if it gets fixed
[01:40] <klien> ada yg bisa indonesia ga yah?
[01:41] <klien> help ..!!!!
[01:42] <Malin> is it ok to install ubuntu on primary slave disc or should i rather install it on primary master? [i got windows on my primary master disc] 
[01:43] <selinium> battletux: acroread-plugins 7 is there. Is that what you want?
[01:44] <selinium> Malin: I had no probs installing it on the Slave
[01:44] <battletux> selinium: yeah, using acroread just installs version 5 for me
[01:44] <siretart> Malin: linux, or better grub does not have any problems with that configuration
[01:45] <siretart> Malin: I think you will need to install GRUB in the MBR, the installer will ask you this question
[01:45] <selinium> battletux: search for acroread-plugins
[01:45] <battletux> selinium: will do thanks
[01:45] <battletux> right lunch time, i'm off: thanks for all the help guys
[01:45] <Malin> siretart, it will not do any harm to my data stored on the primary master disc?
[01:46] <siretart> Malin: no, not I you don't explicitly ask to do so
[01:46] <boze> hello
[01:46] <siretart> Malin: btw, backups are ALWAYS a good idea ;)
[01:46] <selinium> time for me to do some 'real' work. See you all later!
[01:47] <snorks> can someone help me with Could not open "VA.-.Lights.In.Forest-2005-dIz-BFR.rar"
[01:47] <Malin> siretart, it's a bit hard to do 40 GB backup, isn't it? :-)
[01:47] <snorks> Archive type not supported.
[01:47] <Malin> bye selinium
[01:47] <boze> I just installed Hoary 5.04, and it never gave me an option for root password
[01:47] <selinium> cye Malin
[01:47] <selinium> cya
[01:47] <snorks> How do I add support for .rars with the interface archive extracter?
[01:47] <boze> Can anyone help me with that?
[01:47] <bimberi> boze: there isn't one, ubuntu uses sudo for superuser access
[01:48] <bimberi> ubotu: tell boze about sudo
[01:48] <boze> thats new to me, never heard of sudo
[01:48] <Malin> siretart, so i just enter install cd and then choose to format pirmary slave disc and install ubuntu there? nothing will happen to primary master?
[01:48] <snorks> boze: SuperUserDO
[01:49] <Ng> snorks: make sure you have the multiverse repository and grab rar :)
[01:49] <bonvenon> boze: your "root password" is the same as your user password
[01:49] <snorks> Ng: gotcha
[01:49] <boze> ahhh, k, thanks
[01:49] <selinium> snorks: have you installed rar?
[01:49] <selinium> snorks: Yeh do as Ng says
[01:49] <snorks> selinium: I have the added repos, but there is no rar
[01:50] <snorks> selinium: I fetched unrar yesterday
[01:50] <siretart> Malin: partman (the partitioner) will ask you for confirmation of any potential destructive actions.
[01:50] <Ng> snorks: do you definitely have multiverse?
[01:50] <Ng> I'm quite sure it's in multiverse :)
[01:50] <siretart> Malin: just read all messages carfully
[01:50] <Malin> ok
[01:50] <Ng> Filename: pool/multiverse/r/rar/rar_3.30-2_i386.deb
[01:50] <boze> thanks Bimberi and Bonvenom, thats all I needed.. ubuntu looks great so far
[01:50] <Malin> is it possible to install boot loader after installing the whole os?
[01:50] <siretart> it turns out that my png was corrupt.
[01:52] <Malin> i could just switch off the other disc, install ubuntu and then switch it on after installing
[01:52] <Malin> so i'm sure i didn't do anything stupid with my data
[01:52] <snorks> Ng: I added a repo now called hoary 5.04 multiverse (source). why is it source?
[01:52] <Seveas> snorks, you don't need the source repositories as normal user
[01:52] <Ng> snorks: you want the binary one, not the source one
[01:53] <Ng> the source repositories are only if you want the actual source code to edit/recompile
[01:53] <snorks> Ng: ok, changed it to binary, still no rar when I search for it
[01:53] <snorks> Ng: strange :/
[01:53] <Ng> have you refreshed the apt listings?
[01:53] <bimberi> snorks: did you update (or reload)
[01:54] <DjKritical> Hey I just heard about ubuntu... I only really have one question before I give it a go... does Ubuntu use Apt-get like debian?
[01:54] <bimberi> DjKritical: yes
[01:55] <DjKritical> okay and I lied.. one more question.. does Ubuntu use gnome or kde?
[01:55] <Malin> DjKritical: gnome
[01:55] <Ng> bimberi: yours uses the terms that apt/synpaptic would use, which is probably better really. either way is fine if the meaning makes it through though :)
[01:55] <bonvenon> DjKritical: gnome (as default)
[01:55] <Malin> there is also Kubuntu which uses KDE
[01:55] <bimberi> DjKritical: gnome, but there is kubuntu as well
[01:55] <snorks> bimberi: still nothing :/
[01:55] <vader1102> Gnome fot Ubuntu or KDE for Kubuntu
[01:55] <azol> hi all. my old pc has no  cdrom-drive. How can I install hoary? Is it possible to install from floppy+(ftp/http/nfs)?
[01:55] <snorks> bimberi: might be wrong multiverse rep ofcourse. Who knows
[01:55] <DjKritical> Is there a big difference? because I'm more use to KDE... but I'm a noob and willing to listen to some good advice
[01:56] <Malin> so how about that boot loader i asked a moment ago?
[01:56] <Mabus> I'm having some problems importing pictures from my digital camera... gThumb/f-Spot says "Operation not allowed" when trying to get the camera from the USB BUS. If I do 'sudo gthumb' (thus launching it as root), it works ...
[01:56] <Mabus> Any tips ?
[01:56] <Mabus> Maybe my user needs to be in a group that he's not in currently ?
[01:56] <newroz> DjKritical, i like gnome/xfce more.. it looks more proffessional..
[01:56] <thoreauputic> DJ_Mirage: if you like KDE, kubuntu is a better choice - but you can install both from apt repos
[01:57] <Ng> snorks: use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com to show us the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:57] <bonvenon> Malin: I think you will need to install grup into the mbr on the primary disk
[01:57] <bimberi> snorks: wot Ng sed :)
[01:57] <bonvenon> Malin: ...but what do I know
[01:58] <SolidRaven> hi everybody
[01:59] <snorks> Ng: http://pastebin.com/344919
[01:59] <DjKritical> newroz: okay I'm going to give it a go :D
[01:59] <LokeDK> Is there a way to run the kde konsole in gnome? I mean... it looks terrible in gnome
[01:59] <snorks> #
[01:59] <snorks> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse?
[01:59] <ivoks> any1 else having problems with USB2 and breezy?
[01:59] <SolidRaven> conclusion: never drink Active O Iced Berry, its crap, belly hurts because of it :p
[01:59] <onkarshinde> LokeDK: And why do you want to do that?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: some would just say it looks terrible ;)
[01:59] <LokeDK> onkarshinde, Because I like the kde konsole
[01:59] <marlene> ffg rita
[01:59] <SolidRaven> LokeDK > install KDE ;)
[01:59] <marlene> hgfdsqazerty
[01:59] <LokeDK> No I don't like kde heh
[01:59] <newroz> LokeDK, there is a gtk-qt engine ..
[01:59] <SolidRaven> it isn't that hard :)
[01:59] <marlene> azertyazertyazertyazertyazerty
[01:59] <SolidRaven> eventough i needed to reinstall ubuntu after trying but that is just because i am a newb
[01:59] <marlene> tytytyttytytytyytytttttttttttytytytyyyyyyyyyyyty
[01:59] <Selekta> when synaptic says foo cannot be installed
[01:59] <Selekta> what does this mean?
[02:00] <Selekta> like, the dependancies
[02:00] <jamey> Can someone give me some pointers as to how can I promote FOSS?
[02:00] <bonvenon> ivoks: I do, sort of
[02:00] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: use gnome-terminal in gnome - you can customise it to look as you wish
[02:00] <Selekta> for the dependancies
[02:00] <marlene> azzeretrttttyyyyyyyyuuuuiuopo$$^$$$$$
[02:00] <bimberi> marlene: please stop that
[02:00] <marlene> ***************************************************************************************************************************************************************
[02:00] <Selekta> it says blah is selected, blah cannot be installed
[02:00] <ixiz> what is wrong with my soundcard? If I try to open a .mp3 in xmms I just get, could not open audio, and it won't play either in any other music player
[02:00] <thoreauputic> marlene: enough
[02:00] <Ng> snorks: mental, no idea, but you can grab the .deb directly from http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/rar
[02:00] <marlene> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiioooooooooooooooooooo
[02:00] <Ng> any ops around? Seveas? ;)
[02:00] <bimberi> sigh
[02:00] <thoreauputic> !ops
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[02:00] <marlene> mllmmlmllmmlmllmmlmyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuyuuyyuyuyuyuuyyuyuyuyu
[02:00] <ivoks> bonvenon: what kind of?
[02:01] <onkarshinde> ixiz: nothing wrong woth your sound card.
[02:01] <LokeDK> thoreauputic, yeah.. just thought kde's konsole is better. but what the heck
[02:01] <bimberi> thoreauputic: beat me to it :)
[02:01] <marlene> king of ?
[02:01] <snorks> Ng: perhaps because I use amd64?
[02:01] <Ng> snorks: oh, yes
[02:01] <onkarshinde> ixiz: you will need to install some plugin. I don't know exactly which one.
[02:01] <Ng> snorks: I gave up on that and went back to the i386 tree so things actually worked ;)
[02:01] <bonvenon> ivoks: I actually run hoary, but with the breezy kernel. my usb flash memory doesn't mount automaticly
[02:01] <marlene> wat so name please ?
[02:01] <ixiz> onkarshinde: I did install the libmad and gstreamer0.8-mad0 plugin and the ffmpeg and those
[02:02] <snorks> Ng: ouchie :( amd64 can't extract .rars?
[02:02] <ivoks> bonvenon: ok
[02:02] <bonvenon> ivoks: ...and if I mount it with pmount it's very slow
[02:02] <Ng> snorks: it probably can, you could force the package to install and it'll probably still work ok
[02:02] <ivoks> bonvenon: usb1, right?
[02:02] <Selekta> let me rephrase this better :P
[02:02] <Selekta> that mode no sence
[02:02] <Selekta> in synaptic, when you choose a program, and it needs dependancies, it says some of these dependancies are not installable...what does this mean?
[02:02] <bonvenon> ivoks: usb1 speed maybe, but it's an usb2 device
[02:02] <ivoks> none of my usb2 devices aren't recognized as USB2
[02:03] <bonvenon> ivoks: ok. I see
[02:03] <ivoks> bonvenon: dmesg will tell you
[02:03] <Selekta> amsn runs on ubuntu. it's a known fact
[02:03] <SolidRaven> didn't they release the source of the unrar files?
[02:03] <ivoks> bonvenon: if it says something like: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[02:03] <ivoks> bonvenon: then it's connected via usba (ubci_hcd)
[02:03] <Ng> Selekta: either there is some kind of conflict, a missing package, you need to refresh your package lists or something like that, if you could try it from a terminal with apt-get you'll get a more descriptive error
[02:03] <ivoks> bonvenon: if it's USB2, it should say ehci_hcd
[02:03] <Luna-Tick> Hello  everyone :). Does anyone else have problems with all the flash plugins
[02:03] <Selekta> ok, thanks ng :)
[02:04] <Luna-Tick> None of them seem perfect - no sound and sometimes missing the right hand side etc.
[02:04] <bonvenon> ivoks: hmmm... I don't think we have the same problem after all: "---new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd..."
[02:04] <onkarshinde> ixiz: Did you try this instruction. You sure you didn't miss any package? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3#head-d67b20adc8d30f9d239222912aeb42f2e456b36b
[02:05] <cihad_> ji
[02:05] <phreakysz> hi
[02:05] <linukso> Hi! Has anyone got a pcmcia mmc card reader/writer working with ubuntu? I need one and wonder if anyone can recommend one...
[02:05] <cihad_> selam
[02:05] <snorks> Ng: do you know what the force flag is?
[02:05] <snorks> Ng: for dpkg
[02:06] <Ng> snorks: I think --force-architecture
[02:06] <ivoks> bonvenon: ok then
[02:06] <SolidRaven> linukso > give a bit more detailed info over t hat reader / writer
[02:06] <snorks> Ng: ok ill try. thanks
[02:06] <ixiz> onkarshinde: yes I did, and I did this one too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary?highlight=%28Sound%29
[02:06] <bonvenon> ivoks: but it's still very slow
[02:06] <Ng> snorks: check you have ia32-libs package installed too
[02:06] <SolidRaven> maybe i can find some drivers, have nothing beter to do
[02:06] <snorks> Ng: correct
[02:06] <ixiz> that's why I don't understand why it does not work
[02:06] <snorks> Ng: I think I get errors on that one when trying to upgrade my system
[02:06] <phreakysz> does anyone know how to get phpmyadmin running from the repos?
[02:07] <phreakysz> do i need to manually alias apache?
[02:07] <onkarshinde> ixiz: And are other formats working? If you are using xmms which output plugin is selected?
[02:07] <snorks> Ng: Well I didn't get any "archive not supported" yet :)
[02:07] <Luna-Tick> Thanks anyway, guys :). I'll be off
[02:07] <Luna-Tick> Ciao
[02:07] <SolidRaven> a little question, if i get a new motherboard and cpu, will need to change the ubuntu configuration?
[02:07] <linukso> SolidRaven: I haven't found any yet, just asked if anyone got one to recommend.
[02:07] <SolidRaven> i oh
[02:08] <_SWAT_> I've had this problem a few times know. I think it happens when my PC is on for a week or so. Then suddenly, when I hold a "k"button down, it's only printed once (instead of lots of k's). Anyone any idea how to fix it?
[02:08] <jtan325> hi does anyone here know a bit about debian packaging?
[02:08] <bonvenon> phreakysz: I think you just need to apt-get install it. it will end up in /var/www/phpmyadmin
[02:08] <Ng> snorks: hehe, good good
[02:08] <ixiz> onkarshinde: I use esd in xmms
[02:08] <bonvenon> phreakysz: at least I can't remember I did anything more
[02:08] <ixiz> onkarshinde: Now I can play them in music player for some odd reason, but still not in xmms which is what I want
[02:08] <snorks> Ng: it worked :) thanks a bunch mate
[02:08] <phreakysz> yes, you're right
[02:08] <Ng> jtan325: tried #ubuntu-devel?
[02:08] <phreakysz> i see it nw
[02:08] <Ng> snorks: no probs :)
[02:09] <onkarshinde> ixiz: hmmm. Sorry then I have only this knowledge about it. Can't help you.
[02:09] <jtan325> Ng, ok
[02:09] <phreakysz> tnx
[02:09] <kaptaink> #gnome
[02:09] <ixiz> onkarshinde: it works if I choose the alsa driver
[02:09] <ixiz> :S
[02:09] <kaptaink> #gnome
[02:09] <kaptaink> hello, is it possible to password protect selected folders in ubuntu without setting up multiple accounts?
[02:09] <ixiz> but ubuntu wiki said that esd was the default one strange
[02:10] <onkarshinde> ixiz: make sure that esd server has started. You can choose it to start at machine startup from Preferences.
[02:11] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : why not using multiple accounts ?
[02:11] <SolidRaven> clem_yeats > because that maybe gets messy ?
[02:11] <kaptaink> yes
[02:11] <clem_yeats> what ??
[02:11] <kaptaink> too many multiple accounts
[02:11] <SolidRaven> eventough the user acount limit is one bilion if i remember right :p
[02:12] <kaptaink> is there any other way?
[02:12] <ixiz> onkarshinde: preferences and then what?
[02:12] <SolidRaven> kaptaink > what filesystem?
[02:12] <kaptaink> ubuntu
[02:12] <Brazilian> hi
[02:12] <kaptaink> gnome
[02:12] <nerdy2> you could always encrypt them or such (gpg)
[02:12] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : do you have more than one person per account ???
[02:12] <kaptaink> yes
[02:12] <onkarshinde> ixiz: I think it should be Preferences-?Sound
[02:12] <Brazilian> For those who know hollycow: have you seen here lately?
[02:12] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : this IS messy.
[02:12] <kaptaink> myself and a friend
[02:13] <onkarshinde> ixiz: I mean Preferences->Sound
[02:13] <nerdy2> kaptaink: why not give your friend his own account?
[02:13] <kaptaink> is (gpg) a good way to go?
[02:13] <ixiz> onkarshinde: 'enable sound server at startup' was marked
[02:13] <SolidRaven> kind a
[02:13] <snorks> ixiz: remove it like the pest
[02:13] <SolidRaven> you need the key to decode it
[02:13] <kaptaink> any better alternatives?
[02:13] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : the permission and user management in unix is a tremendous thing, but you need to respect one_person=one_account
[02:13] <ixiz> onkarshinde: but thx anyway it's not that important now that I can play music :)
[02:13] <snorks> ixiz: alsaoutput > all
[02:13] <Brazilian> For those who knows hollycow: have you seen him here lately?
[02:14] <nerdy2> kaptaink: the good way to go would be to have two accounts, one for you and your friend, and then to give appropriate group permissions to whatever you wish to share
[02:14] <clem_yeats> exactly
[02:14] <fl> hi and good day :-)
[02:14] <ixiz> snorks: what you mean?
[02:14] <kaptaink> ok, i guess i could do that
[02:14] <kaptaink> thanx again
[02:15] <Brazilian> anybody know hollycow?
[02:15] <nerdy2> kaptaink: this has many advantages over having the same account  [in addition to not being able to see your porn,  he also can't screw up your desktop,  or your precious work files :)] 
[02:15] <snorks> ixiz: esound is slow
[02:15] <snorks> ixiz: using alsa-output is in most cases always better
[02:15] <phreakysz> i would like to run mod_rewrite on the server, but im not sure how to this on a debian distro
[02:15] <ixiz> snorks: well then I should be fine :)
[02:15] <kaptaink> thankyou nerdy2
[02:15] <snorks> oh
[02:16] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : do you have root access ?
[02:16] <SolidRaven> nerdy2 > porn > desktop files :P
[02:16] <kaptaink> yes
[02:16] <SolidRaven> i mean nerdy2:
[02:16] <SolidRaven> :p
[02:16] <DjKritical> stoopid question... whats the url for ubuntu? o_O
[02:16] <fl> all: did you ever see boot issues with isolinux when using CD-RW as opposed to CD-R?
[02:16] <SolidRaven> frikin autonickname script :p
[02:16] <nerdy2> heh
[02:16] <clem_yeats> kaptaink : then the best solution is to create an account for your friend and to change your own password.
[02:16] <SolidRaven> pr0n > desktopfiles
[02:17] <kaptaink> lol, ok so much help...i should be able to go on from here
[02:17] <nerdy2> SolidRaven: we all have to have priorities :)
[02:17] <SolidRaven> btw, you keep those on a flash drive :p
[02:17] <SolidRaven> nerdy2 > like trying to get ndiswrapper to work once
[02:17] <thoreauputic> !ubuntu
[02:17] <ubotu> I heard ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[02:18] <SolidRaven> but concluding that the drivers are realy bad
[02:18] <nerdy2> SolidRaven: heh  fortunately never messed with that
[02:18] <kaptaink> ndiswrapper was so hard to set up
[02:18] <kaptaink> i use a netgear 311v2
[02:18] <kaptaink> but once u learn its easy to setup again
[02:19] <nerdy2> i have an ipw2200,  which i am happy with  [modulo the firmware blob] 
[02:19] <SolidRaven> Kaloz > here it crashes when i do modprobe ndiswrapper ;)
[02:19] <SolidRaven> i mean kaptaink
[02:19] <ekimus_> anyone knows where the $PATH is initially set on the live cd?
[02:20] <nerdy2> ekimus_: not in /etc/profile?
[02:20] <kaptaink> ah, sorry im just a noobie and wouldnt know how to help you SolidRaven
[02:20] <kaptaink> i followed the ubuntu ndiswrapper guide
[02:20] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven: does the ndiswrapper -l says everything's fine ?
[02:21] <ekimus_> nerdy2: damn too easy. reamstering damages my brain :)
[02:21] <SolidRaven> yes clem_yeats
[02:21] <SolidRaven> it even says hardware is connected
[02:21] <kaptaink> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation is very helpful
[02:22] <SolidRaven> i did that ;)
[02:22] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven : did you follow the ndiswrapper guide on their website ? finding your PCID and all.. ?
[02:22] <SolidRaven> i got the right drivers
[02:22] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven : was there only one set of drivers on the LIST page for your PCID ?
[02:22] <kaptaink> ndiswrapper -l should show the status of ur installed driver
[02:22] <SolidRaven> ndiswrapper says this: sis136u driver present, hardware present
[02:22] <markrian> Does anyone know how to get Gossip to make use of a transport?
[02:22] <SolidRaven> only modprobe fails
[02:23] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven: find your PCID, and see if there are other drivers for it on the "LIST" page of ndiswrapper.
[02:24] <phreakysz> hi
[02:24] <phreakysz> i cant find apache in the processmanager, but its still running
[02:24] <SolidRaven> clem_yeats > its a crappy topcom USB skyr@cer V2 54mbps
[02:24] <persia> Mounting /boot fails for me about 80% of the time, with the message "/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lib0: p1".  I'm not finding anything useful on google.  Anyone have any ideas?
[02:24] <SolidRaven> and topcom doesn't want to give me the source code of their frikin drivers
[02:24] <SolidRaven> the bitches
[02:25] <clem_yeats> SolidRaven : try the PCID thing..
[02:25] <SolidRaven> were do i find out that pcid?
[02:25] <pao> persia, are U sure that's the complete error message'
[02:25] <pao> persia, ?
[02:25] <clem_yeats> well you can read the ndiswrapper site for a start...
[02:26] <kaptaink> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu   this link should be more helpful
[02:26] <kaptaink> it relates directly to ubuntu gnome
[02:26] <pao> how do I cleanly start a custom service at startup? is there any rc.local script?
[02:26] <persia> pao: That's the entry in dmesg and syslog.  Nothing prints to console.  In both cases, the time since boot preceeds the actual error.  Note that within a single boot cycle it may work, as long as I wait enough.
[02:27] <pao> persia, that's not an error message :-(
[02:28] <persia> pao: Add a file to /etc/init.d/ using start-stop-daemon.  Link this to /etc/rc?.d with a name like S99foo (for /etc/init.d/foo), and a sequence number indicating when you want it to start.
[02:28] <persia> pao: Well then, /boot doesn't mount without an error message.  Any ideas?
[02:28] <pao> persia, thanks... I was looking for a shortcut to that solution ;-)
[02:28] <SolidRaven> kaptaink > don't you need to do modprobe to get them to work :S
[02:28] <pao> persia, ... you said it hangs while trying to mount?
[02:29] <kaptaink> Solid Raven - yes
[02:29] <pao> persia, could you show me your fstab?
[02:30] <SolidRaven> then i might have a chance :)
[02:30] <persia> pao: nothing hangs, just that message shows in dmesg, `ls /boot` returns nothing,  /proc/mounts fails to show an entry, and new files get stored on the / partition.
[02:30] <kaptaink> hope that helps
[02:30] <persia> pao: see #flood
[02:31] <SolidRaven> mhh, now i need to get dhcp working by wireless :|
[02:32] <ntoll> damn... can't find it on the web site... whats the name of the dummy package to install thedevelopment tools such as gcc etc etc
[02:32] <persia> ntoll: build-essential covers most of that
[02:33] <ntoll> persia, aha... thats the one
[02:33] <ntoll> !
[02:33] <ubotu> ntoll: Are you on ritalin?
[02:33] <ntoll> thx
[02:33] <pao> persia, ... relevant dmesg...
[02:33] <ntoll> ritalin?
[02:34] <ntoll> ubotu, I'm on a comfy chair infront of my new breezy install... :-P
[02:34] <ubotu> ntoll: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> !tell ntoll about ubotu
[02:34] <ntoll> heh
[02:35] <pao> persia, the message is repeated... right?
[02:35] <pao> seems to be an hw problem detecting your ide disk...
[02:35] <b3r0xX> hey
[02:35] <persia> pao: yes, it's repeated.  Some of that is me, and some the boot process.
[02:36] <pao> persia, when it does not mount try issueing mount -av
[02:36] <pao> penguin_roar, what happens?
[02:36] <persia> pao: Alas, if it's hardware, I'll have to investigate otherwise.  Just for fun, I'm pasting a shortcut for /etc/init.d/foo to #flood.
[02:36] <pao> persia, does there exist the ugly, old rc.local :-(?
[02:39] <persia> pao: Thanks.  I'll try that.
[02:40] <ncp_> how is ubuntu with postfix? i have only used debian stable before, so dont know how good it works
[02:42] <thoreauputic> ncp_: you know postfix is the default MTA in ubuntu, right ?
[02:42] <TraceGreen> Can anybody help me with my bootsplash?
[02:43] <TraceGreen> when i boot, just black screen, and after start x, i check /proc/splash, it show:
[02:43] <TraceGreen> "plash screen v3.1.6-2004/03/31 (0xf0, 640x480): off"
[02:43] <ncp_> thomerz, no, never used it before, im reading about ubuntu an it seems to like debian but alot faster with updates?
[02:44] <ncp_> be like*
[02:44] <thoreauputic> ncp_: very similar, but with a freeze/ new release every 6 months
[02:45] <paines> hi
[02:45] <Kokoro> Hi
[02:45] <ncp_> thomerz, what are the main defferences between debian and ubuntu?
[02:46] <paines> anyone know why "~" is only printed when pressing it the second time. german keyboard layout
[02:46] <SolidRaven> kaptaink > going to try it out now
[02:46] <thoreauputic> ncp_: mainly the release model - and more desktop focus
[02:46] <GoClick> What's the difference between the server install and the regular install on 5.04?
[02:46] <kaptaink> good did u visit the ndiswrapper ubuntu specific site?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> GoClick: the server install just installs the base system - no X or gnome
[02:47] <GoClick> Interesting
[02:47] <ncp_> thomerz, du you have any experince with ubuntu as server? just wanne know if theres any reason to switch to ubuntu instead of debian
[02:48] <sweatybob> anyone give me a hand with partition magic?
[02:48] <thoreauputic> ncp_: I don't, no
[02:48] <No1Viking> Hello. I have a mutimachine and wonder if it's possible to set up in Ubuntu. The machine is a Brother MFC890.
[02:48] <fl> paines, you probably have the germen keyboar _with_ "dead keys"
[02:48] <kaptaink> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[02:48] <Erlenmayr> where do i find the mc in ubuntu apt?
[02:48] <paines> fl, ah okay. will check it
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !info mc
[02:48] <GoClick> Does Ubuntu come with a hardware diagnostic tool of some kind? We bought some hardware for a desktop here and it poops out all the time while doing stuff, usually while installing actually tho it has made it (it's a test system rigth now so it's hard Linux installed like 5 times this week)
[02:48] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[02:48] <paines> fl, thanks
[02:49] <thoreauputic> Erlenmayr: you need to enable the universe repository
[02:49] <Erlenmayr> apt-get install mc says, there is no package available
[02:49] <Erlenmayr> how do i do this in textmode only?
[02:49] <ubuntu> #ubuntu channel
[02:49] <ubuntu> hi
[02:49] <ncp_> Erlenmayr, you need to edit your /etc/apt/sourcelist
[02:49] <fl> paines, are you using Gnome?
[02:49] <Rockett18> mc is sweet
[02:49] <paines> fl, no gnome
[02:49] <GoClick> textmode sounds so much more friendly than "command line interface".
[02:50] <ubuntu> i would like to know how to run ubuntu in qemu
[02:50] <paines> fl, ups. hahha. i mean kde
[02:50] <ncp_> Erlenmayr, after you have done that, type "apt-get update" an "apt-get install mc" in a terminal
[02:50] <No1Viking> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[02:50] <No1Viking>   mc
[02:50] <No1Viking> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:50] <No1Viking> Need to get 1959kB of archives.
[02:52] <Kokoro> Does anyone here use dosbox?
[02:52] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: there's aqemu howto on the wiki
[02:52] <Erlenmayr> thx
[02:52] <Erlenmayr> ncp_, ok, thx, it works alright now
[02:54] <ubuntu> thx on wiki
[02:55] <ubuntu> btw
[02:55] <ubuntu> whats wiki
[02:55] <snorks> encyclopedia
[02:56] <Kyynara_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[02:56] <ntoll> okay... Realplayer.... I've found realplayer8 in apt repositories... but not Raelplayer 10
[02:56] <ntoll> wiki != encyclopedia. Wiki is user editable web site
[02:56] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: a wiki is a website that anyone can edit, in simple terms
[02:56] <GoClick> How big is the Ubuntu install and is there a way to make it smaller?
[02:56] <ubuntu> excuse me
[02:56] <fl> paines, hehe. *Very* funny. in KDE, this should be in the KDE control panel :-) try to add Option "XkbVariant"  "nodeadkeys" to the Device section of your keyboard
[02:57] <ntoll> Wikipedia (the most famous wiki) is an online wiki encyclopedia
[02:57] <ubuntu> it says that the qemu page cant be found
[02:57] <pancho_> Hello all
[02:57] <pancho_> Greetings from Argentina
[02:57] <kaptaink> for realplayer 10 visit ubunut guide
[02:57] <ubuntu> any moderators?
[02:57] <ubuntu> can u answer my question?
[02:57] <ntoll> kaptaink, thnks... url?
[02:57] <kaptaink> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[02:57] <ubuntu> 404 not found error on qemu wiki
[02:57] <ntoll> kaptaink, thx
[02:58] <thoreauputic> GoClick: about 1.8 Gig default: you can make it much smaller by starting with a "server" install, but you need to befamiliar with apt and package names etc
[02:58] <ubuntu> can u guys tell me how to operate qemu?
[02:58] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: use the search function onthe wiki
[02:58] <kaptaink> go to install multimedia aplication, then realplayer
[02:58] <ubuntu> it says 404 not found
[02:58] <fl> anyone tried Crossover Office on Breezy yet?
[02:59] <Kokoro> The install is pretty small to begin with though. you will definatly be looking for stuff to add to it
[02:59] <GoClick> thoreauputic, well we'd also like x and gnome and synaptic and firefox but that's about it
[02:59] <bimberi> ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[02:59] <ubuntu> geez
[02:59] <ubuntu> i am not stupid
[02:59] <ubuntu> i know the site
[02:59] <ubuntu> but it is down
[02:59] <ubuntu> so can u tell me how to do it here?!
[03:00] <GoClick> Well we'd like to be able to fit a drive images of the install onto a CD
[03:00] <No1Viking> Hello. I have a mutimachine and wonder if it's possible to set up in Ubuntu. The machine is a Brother MFC890.
[03:00] <Kyynara_> ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/QemuEmulator?highlight=%28qemu%29
[03:00] <Kyynara_> works for me
[03:00] <ubuntu> o i c
[03:00] <Ng> likewise
[03:00] <ubuntu> thanks for the help
[03:00] <ubuntu> it did not work
[03:00] <pancho_> Sorry, anyone can point me how to support accented characters in console?
[03:00] <ubuntu> for me
[03:00] <bimberi> ubuntu: it works for me (and there was no inference of stupidity intended whatsoever)
[03:00] <thoreauputic> GoClick: with gnome? tight fit I think
[03:01] <pancho_> I've tryed with a simple export LANG=es, and export LC_ALL=es
[03:01] <Kokoro> The image fits on 1 700 Mb cd
[03:01] <pancho_> but it didn't worked
[03:01] <GoClick> Hrm maybe we can use DVDs and get all of the Ubuntuie goodness on there
[03:01] <pancho_> :(
[03:02] <thoreauputic> Kokoro: he wants a *drive* image
[03:02] <GoClick> So as to be able to DD back to the disk if things go farkwise
[03:02] <thoreauputic> GoClick: understood
[03:02] <GoClick> dd I'm a Caps nut :P
[03:03] <Kokoro> The one thing that gives me fits right now is that Dosbox has all their faqs and help files for windoze. I need to find out how to set up dosbox.conf on Ubuntu
[03:03] <void-> Hi, Is there a way to make gstreamer extend its output buffer? And maby force it to nut run in realtime mode.
[03:03] <GoClick> Kokoro I can't say I've ever heard of windoze, is that an open source clone of Windows?
[03:04] <Erlenmayr> how can i remove all packages, which are no longer needed by installed packages, with apt?
[03:04] <thoreauputic> Kokoro: did you install dosbox from the ubuntu repos? Doesn't it have a man page or anything?
[03:04] <Erlenmayr> the old dependies of packages which are no longer installed
[03:05] <thoreauputic> Erlenmayr:  install deborphan , debfoster
[03:06] <clem_yeats> y'a deja #kubuntu
[03:06] <wtf> what is the command to see how big is a directory?
[03:06] <Kokoro> thoreauputic: I haven't found it. Files are stuck in strange places.
[03:06] <clem_yeats> wtf: du I think
[03:06] <clem_yeats> wtf: du -k
[03:07] <wtf> that shows all the files
[03:07] <thoreauputic> Kokoro: did you install from ubuntu repos? If so try dpkg -L dosbox to see the files
[03:08] <clem_yeats> wtf : du -k .
[03:08] <thoreauputic> wtf: du -sh in the directory ( cd to the directory first)
[03:09] <mgcross> hey all...just ran chkrootkit and all came back fine except eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[5636] )
[03:09] <mgcross> is that just my dhcp client waiting for changes?
[03:10] <mgcross> Seveas: any idea?
[03:10] <GoClick> grrr bad hardware is the bain of my life :P
[03:12] <thoreauputic> hmm actually du -sh directoryname works fine - no need to cd
[03:13] <thoreauputic> wtf: :)
[03:14] <twibbler> Wonder if anybody could help me with a printer setup in an application called vym which uses the qt printing..
[03:14] <mgcross> should I be worried?
[03:14] <deprave> wazup!
[03:14] <prower> Just a quick question...how secure should the servers (e.g. Apache2) in universe be considered? Are they suitable for use in a production environment?
[03:14] <mgcross> anyone?
[03:15] <thoreauputic> twibbler: qt printing? Printing uses CUPS surely?
[03:15] <Seveas> prower, absolutely
[03:15] <jtan325> what's a unix command to replace the first line in a file with another line as input
[03:15] <jtan325> sed?
[03:15] <jtan325> or is there something easier
[03:15] <haakonn> can anyone tell me how ubuntu on amd64 is? a friend dropped it claiming there were few packages available. true?
[03:15] <twibbler> thoreapuic: should do but network printer through cups qt wants to connect to it locally ...
[03:15] <prower> Seveas: Ahh, okay...thanks for clearing that up
[03:16] <thoreauputic> twibbler: you've lost me...
[03:16] <GoClick> How do I enable universe packages?
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> !repositories
[03:16] <ubotu> I heard repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:16] <GoClick> What a bot!
[03:16] <GoClick> thanks HrdwrBoB
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> no worries :)
[03:16] <deprave> he needs a tune up
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> we got sick of typing the same things over and over :)
[03:16] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[03:16] <GoClick> Although, why does it use https?
[03:16] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[03:16] <HrdwrBoB> GoClick: you can use https if you like
[03:16] <twibbler> qt thinks my printer is via usb .... cups has it set via jet direct ..
[03:17] <HrdwrBoB> twibbler: qt fails it
[03:17] <GoClick> No it auto goes to the https:// for me
[03:17] <GoClick> I clicked the link and I get directed to https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:18] <twibbler> HrdwrBoB: meaning ? .....
[03:18] <GoClick> It's so the spys can't tell what I'm learning about!
[03:18] <HrdwrBoB> twibbler: what program are you trying to print in
[03:18] <thoreauputic> GoClick: someone who was logged in probably copy-pasted the URL like that :)
[03:18] <twibbler> vym (view your mind).
[03:18] <lillylegsandtoes> !java
[03:18] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:19] <titanium> fragmentation is more or less a nonissue in ext3 right?
[03:19] <prower> thoreauputic: I don't think so, I always get redirected to https when I go there too...just the way it's configured I guess
[03:19] <thoreauputic> titaniululz: right
[03:20] <titanium> that's nice :)
[03:20] <Tadej> Hi can someone help me
[03:20] <Tadej> I cant use cdrecord
[03:20] <titanium> Tadej: just ask
[03:20] <Tadej> on 2.6 kernel
[03:20] <HrdwrBoB> Tadej: yes you can
[03:20] <Tadej> cant find writer
[03:20] <thoreauputic> blech why do people have such similar nicks ?
[03:21] <twibbler> HrdwBoB: have a vymrc file in the .qt directory which has printer name ... but thinks it local ....
[03:21] <mgcross> can anyone tell me if eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[5636] ) when shown by chkrootkit shows me a problem?
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> twibbler: I have nfi
[03:21] <Tadej> HrdwrBoB: how?
[03:21] <mgcross> or is this normal when using dchp
[03:21] <twibbler> ok than you ....
[03:21] <mgcross> ?
[03:21] <Tadej> when I do cdrecord -scanbus
[03:21] <titanium> thoreauputic: titaniululz is me anyways ;) (titanium=winxp, titaniululz=ubuntu)
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> Tadej: what are you trying to write
[03:21] <Tadej> cd
[03:21] <prower> mgcross: That's normal from what I've been told
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> ... yes a CD, but what are you trying to write to it
[03:22] <thoreauputic> titanium: huh - OK then ;)
[03:22] <mgcross> prowler: thanks much
[03:22] <Tadej> cdrecord cant find my writer
[03:22] <Tadej> I cant write anything
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> Tadej: that's not the question I asked
[03:22] <titanium> copying 2gb from this machine to my ubuntu over samba is taking forever :(
[03:22] <Tadej> iso
[03:22] <kaptaink> how can i create an alias for terminal?
[03:22] <Tadej> debian
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> Tadej: right click on the iso
[03:22] <Tadej> yes
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> click write to disc
[03:22] <EasterSunshine> titanium: what is the trasnfer speed?
[03:22] <Tadej> hmm
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> Tadej: you're using debian
[03:22] <Tadej> w8
[03:22] <prower> mgcross: No problem :> The dhcp server probably just listens on eth0 in promiscuous mode or something like that
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[03:22] <can-o-worms> thoreauputic: kemik .. i am sure you guys have been thinking about nothing but my samba problem.. so to put your minds at ease... it was a problem with version 3.0.14a
[03:22] <Tadej> HrdwrBoB: ubuntu
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> ok cool
[03:23] <titanium> EasterSunshine: oh christ had wondershaper on... it was 1mB/s, now it's 8mB/s :O
[03:23] <thoreauputic> kaptaink: alias foo='foobar'  in .bashrc
[03:23] <EasterSunshine> titanium: i usually get 4-5 mb/sec...how did you get 8?!
[03:23] <thoreauputic> can-o-worms: oh, I can sleep now ;-)
[03:23] <mgcross> prowler: that's what I thought, but i came to linux in part for the security...don't like not being sure
[03:24] <titanium> EasterSunshine: good network card i guess? :) i don't know. i get the same transfer speed to my xbox, but not from it
[03:24] <kaptaink> thanx thoreauputic
[03:24] <HrdwrBoB> EasterSunshine: depends on cpu/bus/network hardware/cables/etc
[03:24] <thoreauputic> np :)
[03:24] <mgcross> anyone: whats the best supported printer for Ubuntu right now?
[03:24] <funkyHat> what's the command that tells you what group you're in?
[03:25] <HrdwrBoB> mgcross: see linuxprinting.org
[03:25] <funkyHat> user and group id
[03:25] <haakonn> groups
[03:25] <HrdwrBoB> mgcross: anything that does postscript
[03:25] <funkyHat> id
[03:25] <funkyHat> *
[03:25] <funkyHat> thanks
[03:26] <can-o-worms> HrdwrBoB: if you could afford a postscript printer you wouldn't be asking in here ;-)
[03:26] <deprave> oh snap!
[03:26] <deprave> =>
[03:26] <mgcross> HrdwrBoB: thanks...time to go read! No cheap-ass models to stear clear of? I'm in Korea atm and I don't want to haveta fight with a salesperson to return siomething...
[03:26] <HrdwrBoB> can-o-worms: they are relatively cheap
[03:26] <mgcross> hard to do in gestures and noises..lol
[03:26] <HrdwrBoB> mgcross: lexmark now have drivers but the cheaper ones generally suck anyway
[03:27] <mihai> how do i get just one package from the breezy repos without alterint apt.conf ?
[03:27] <HrdwrBoB> mgcross: most HPs are good
[03:27] <HrdwrBoB> mgcross: price one you like, then check it on linux-printing.org
[03:27] <mgcross> HrdwrBoB: nothing has changed but the level of Linux support, then
[03:27] <HrdwrBoB> mgcross: actually no most are supported now
[03:27] <EasterSunshine> mgcross: tru dat, i've a hp lasterjet 1200 or something for like three years now, never ever gave me a problem
[03:27] <HrdwrBoB> just generally don't buy a crap printer :)
[03:28] <HrdwrBoB> I have a $180AU samsung ML1710 laser b/w
[03:28] <can-o-worms> mgcross: if you are in korea then you'll probably find the model numbers are all different
[03:28] <HrdwrBoB> doesn't do postscript, but has a linux driver
[03:28] <can-o-worms> mgcross: so just buy a HP
[03:28] <EasterSunshine> wow i'd definetely want a korean printer
[03:28] <EasterSunshine> is all teh hardware in korean in korea?
[03:28] <mgcross> can-o-worms: good advice, thanks
[03:29] <mihai> how do i get just one package from the breezy repos without altering apt.conf ?
[03:29] <can-o-worms> mgcross: i'm in japan and none of the models match anything on linuxprinting.org
[03:29] <EasterSunshine> mihai: you can do in and downoad the package manually
[03:29] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: yeah but the numerals are Arabic ;)
[03:29] <SolidRaven> this time modprobe ndiswrapper returned an error
[03:29] <bimberi> mihai: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:29] <EasterSunshine> mihai: and then use dkpg, or put it in a local repo
[03:29] <mgcross> btw all...if you want a cheep set of speakers that ROCK see if you can find the britz brandname back in the west..dead cheap and great sound
[03:29] <can-o-worms> EasterSunshine: the koreans make great ram
[03:30] <EasterSunshine> next time i go to seoul, i'm getting myself a whole lot of korean computer parts ^_^
[03:30] <SolidRaven> root@ubuntu:/home/bart # modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:30] <SolidRaven> returned:
[03:31] <mgcross> can-o-worms: good to here about the RAM...need to get myself another 512 stick...<grin>
[03:31] <can-o-worms> EasterSunshine: i'm getting myself another pair boots
[03:31] <mgcross> er hear
[03:31] <mgcross> lol
[03:31] <DjKritical> malin: I'm installing it now, what do you think?
[03:31] <mgcross> malin: rocks, dosen't it?
[03:31] <mihai> EasterSunshine: well what if that package has a lot of dependencies ? will dpkg -i get them ?
[03:31] <can-o-worms> mgcross: i thought the whole world used samsung memory
[03:31] <malin> aye, it does
[03:32] <SolidRaven> FATAL: Error Installing ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko):operation not permitted
[03:32] <malin> but i have to mount my other hard drive first and take a loog at it
[03:32] <mgcross> can-o-worms: smacks forhead..duuuuh!
[03:32] <malin> DjKritical, install, don't hesitate :-)
[03:33] <ekimus> is there a sun java for ppc + linux available?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> ekimus: I think not
[03:33] <malin> is there any hard drives mount-howto for ubuntu?
[03:33] <brenner> mihai: just joined, but no... that's why you should use apt-get/synaptic
[03:34] <thoreauputic> ekimus: there's an IBM one I think ( haven't tried it)
[03:34] <h08817> i have a problem with my dual boot system
[03:34] <SolidRaven> malin > the easy way is reinstalling it
[03:34] <blaq> Hey all, I've got a Duron machine running ubuntu but its still using the 386 kernel. Should i go the 686 kernel or the K7 kernel?
[03:34] <malin> reinstalling what?
[03:34] <ekimus> thoreauputic: anything that one could use for java development on ppc?
[03:34] <SolidRaven> ubuntu
[03:34] <SolidRaven> but that is stupid
[03:34] <malin> what??
[03:34] <SolidRaven> to get the harddrives detected
[03:34] <thoreauputic> ekimus: I don't know, sorry
[03:35] <ekimus> well i'm gonna ask my friend google :)
[03:35] <SolidRaven> can anybody help me with ndiswrapper
[03:35] <SolidRaven> keeps returning errors :'(
[03:35] <SolidRaven> FATAL: Error Installing ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko):operation not permitted
[03:35] <h08817> b4 when i had linux on my main hd which had 2 partitions one extfs and the other fat32 and windows as the slave i could read my main hd in windows
[03:35] <SolidRaven> and now ubuntu doesn't even want to boot anymore
[03:35] <DjKritical> Does anyone know a good php/html editor which allows you to edit files directory on an ftp server?
[03:35] <SolidRaven> it stops at hotplug system
[03:36] <h08817> but now that windows is main and linux is slave i can't read that second partition
[03:36] <SolidRaven> :S
[03:36] <h08817> could it have to do with the jumpers on my hds?
[03:36] <h08817> could they be configured wrong?
[03:36] <Onkel|Adolf> hmmm is there a channel there is about X64?
[03:36] <brenner> h08817: can't read it in linux you mean?
[03:37] <h08817> no
[03:37] <neo78> ahoy!
[03:37] <neo78> just installed ubuntu!
[03:37] <thoreauputic> neo78: welcome to our world :)
[03:37] <Onkel|Adolf> hmmm is there a channel there is about X64?
[03:37] <EasterSunshine> sailors installing ubuntu?
[03:37] <h08817> in windows i want to be able to see my fat32 partition on my other hd which also contains linux note: i have 2 partitions on that hd
[03:37] <neo78> and for the first time had a hassle-free printer installation! (although i still have to figure out scanner, tv card etc)
[03:37] <brenner> neo78: welcome :)
[03:37] <neo78> thank you thoreauputic! brenner!
[03:38] <neo78> i hope it really is for 'humans'!
[03:38] <neo78> cos i have a loong way to go!
[03:38] <thoreauputic> neo78: we wouldn't know - we're all bots here ;)
[03:38] <neo78> i'm definitely a sub-level primate when it comes to linux
[03:38] <mihai> well it seems the package in the breezy repo i want to get (valknut) depends on a lot of stuff that has older versions in hoary. i updated apt.conf to breezy, should i switch back to hoary after this package is complete ? will it break my package if i do so ?
[03:39] <blaq> I've got an AMD Duron and was wondering which kernel would be best. Should i go the 686 kernel or the K7 kernel?
[03:39] <synap> moin, anyone using the senao nl-2511 ext2 card within ubuntu ?
[03:39] <neo78> synap, no, but i've used it with Mikrotik (a linux based RouterOS). Mikrotik simply picked it up and was happy
[03:39] <SolidRaven> h08817 > just get the ext2 drivers for windows
[03:40] <SolidRaven> they work in most cases
[03:40] <neo78> i think it's the nl2511 in any case (PCMCIA card with external antenna connector)
[03:40] <h08817> what is ext2?
[03:40] <h08817> i don't wanna read my linux files in windows
[03:40] <Kokoro> I must be missing something. I keep running into the same problems trying to write dosbox.conf.
[03:40] <mdke> i want to upgrade my system via cron, but with the entry "apt-get -y upgrade", for some reason dpkg fails due to not being able to find certain commands in the path. Does anyone know how to sort this out?
[03:40] <h08817> i want that blank fat32 to be readable in windows
[03:40] <neo78> speaking of that... how do i read my windows harddrives in ubuntu (ntfs partitions)
[03:41] <synap> ext2 as in 2 external tennas :)
[03:41] <can-o-worms> mdke: use the full path?
[03:41] <h08817> synap: which is?
[03:41] <synap> which is ? the senao nl-2511
[03:41] <titaniululz> samba is awesome :)
[03:41] <neo78> how do i mount my ntfs partitions so i can use them in ubuntu ?
[03:42] <h08817> synap: what is the ext2 used for?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[03:42] <can-o-worms> h08817: ext2 is a filesystem... read the filesystem howto, there is more than ntfs and fat32
[03:42] <ubotu> [mountwindows]  Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[03:42] <mdke> can-o-worms, that doesn't help: it is not the apt-get command that it can't find, but some commands used in the installation of the packages by dpkg
[03:42] <yccheok> hi guys, i folo the instruction in ubuntu unofficial FAQ, but still cannot get the nvu after adding the extra respitory
[03:42] <thoreauputic> neo78: note that ntfs is read-only from linux
[03:42] <h08817> also my windows won't read cd-rom drives for some reason
[03:42] <yccheok> may i noe the exact respitory for nvu?
[03:42] <can-o-worms> mdke: what commands?
[03:42] <thoron> Hi! I would like know if there is some preliminary schedule on next release Ubuntu CD shipments start?
[03:43] <Wallan> neo78: Check out the Starter Guide. It'l tell you everything you need to know/
[03:43] <h08817> linux does which is good i was just wondering why
[03:43] <GoClick> How do I make another user with the same privlages as the user I made durring setup?
[03:43] <thoron> I am thinking of ordering them for students.
[03:43] <can-o-worms> GoClick: adduser
[03:43] <Wallan> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[03:43] <deFrysk> Wallan, do not use ubuntuguid as referene
[03:43] <GoClick> Do they need to be in group 0?
[03:43] <h08817> !ubuntuguide
[03:43] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[03:43] <thoreauputic> GoClick: just add the new user to the same groups
[03:44] <Wallan> Sorry!
[03:44] <mdke> can-o-worms, can't remember the exact commands I'm afraid
[03:44] <thoreauputic> GoClick: erm group 0 is root, so no
[03:44] <h08817> lol its ok i use it
[03:44] <Wallan> Am fairly new to this... the guide's helped me a lot...
[03:44] <can-o-worms> mdke: well, without knowing exactly what error you are getting it is very hard to tell you anything
[03:44] <GoClick> I'm not sure how to check what groups the original user is in and I can't figure out how to put someone in multiple groups from the GUI manager
[03:44] <deFrysk> Wallan, ubuntuguide is a cut and paste guide,...explains nothing
[03:45] <h08817> tells u how to install things which is about it
[03:45] <can-o-worms> GoClick: groups
[03:45] <Kokoro> thoron: you do know there is edubuntu also?
[03:45] <mdke> can-o-worms, the error is because cron is running the apt-get command without being in the full root environment I think: for that reason commands in /sbin and /usr/sbin are not in its path
[03:45] <thoreauputic> GoClick: type " groups" as th first user
[03:45] <thoron> Kokoro, I have seen the name, but I don't know it.
[03:45] <can-o-worms> mdke: so add the command to root's crontab
[03:45] <thoreauputic> GoClick: then note the groups and add the decond user to those
[03:45] <yccheok> great, i get it. seems like the unofficial FAQ is outdated. deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[03:46] <Wallan> I see what you're saying. It worked for me (never used Linux before). Am currently working on understanding everything.
[03:46] <thoreauputic> s/decond/second
[03:46] <randy> Morning all.
[03:46] <mdke> can-o-worms, I had added the command using "sudo crontab -e", is that not sufficient? it is mailing to root
[03:46] <brenner> evening randy
[03:46] <h08817> SolidRaven: well where can i get the ext2 drivers for windows
[03:47] <deFrysk> Wallan, next time refer to the wikipages of ubuntu
[03:47] <Kokoro> Thoron: It's Ubuntu for the classroom
[03:47] <can-o-worms> mdke: what does sudo crontab -u root -l tell you?
[03:47] <randy> Anyone have this "Installer cannot run in graphical mode" when trying to run the a .bin file from sun of netbeans and jdk combo in Breezy?
[03:47] <thoreauputic> mdke: using a cron job with apt and -y is kind of risky, BTW - what if one of the answers should be -n ?
[03:48] <mdke> can-o-worms, i see it if I do that command
[03:48] <Wallan> Cheers deFrysk, I'll make better use of them.
[03:48] <thoron> Kokoro, Ok, I tell that to the teacher. I was more like going to spread ubuntu for engineering students for home use at school.
[03:48] <mdke> thoreauputic, i want it upgrading automatically :)
[03:48] <vik> trying to apt-get install samba, but it tells me samba-common is an incompatible version (both ubuntu variants). Any ideas? Am happy to force things if necessary
[03:48] <thoreauputic> mdke: I know what you *want* :)
[03:48] <mdke> thoreauputic, i never say "n" to upgrades
[03:48] <can-o-worms> mdke: hmmm... i dunno what to tell you, i think i really need to see the exact error
[03:48] <brenner> randy: is it meant to run outside of X?
[03:49] <mdke> can-o-worms, ok i will try back later with the exact error
[03:49] <SolidRaven> h08817 > i found them on google, they are easy to find, if i remember righ its fsdrivers.com
[03:49] <mihai> what are the codec packages named ? mpg/divx/aac ?
[03:49] <h08817> SolidRaven: ok thanks
[03:49] <brenner> mihai: w32codecs, found in hoary-extras
[03:49] <h08817> SolidRaven: and that will allow me to see my other partition?
[03:49] <Belutz> !codecs
[03:49] <ubotu> methinks codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[03:50] <mdke> mihai, gstreamer also has support for those codecs if you use totem, install gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[03:50] <can-o-worms> mdke: the only time you would want to upgrade with a cron job is if you were only doing security updates
[03:50] <randy> brenner: Nope.  It's a graphical installer for Java and Netbeans.  Java InstallShield.
[03:50] <mdke> mihai, it's not full support tho afaik
[03:50] <h08817> not saying i am going to but if i ever remove linux how can i do so and remove grub
[03:50] <ElvenProgrammer> is there a way to make it so linux doesn't recognize my cdrom drive which is broken?
[03:51] <mdke> can-o-worms, but I do want to upgrade with a cron job, do you mean that it is unwise?
[03:51] <thoreauputic> ElvenProgrammer: unplug it? :)
[03:51] <deFrysk> ElvenProgrammer, if your cdromplayer is broken, remove it
[03:51] <randy> brenner:  I have 2 machines.  One I did a dist-upgrade for Hoary (No Problem here) the other I installed from Colony 3 CD and then a dist-upgrade  (This one is the problem).
[03:51] <can-o-worms> mdke: unless you are only doing security updates
[03:51] <mdke> can-o-worms, how come?
[03:51] <brenner> h08817: iirc, you can probably just delete the linux partitions and then restore your mbr
[03:52] <ElvenProgrammer> it's a laptop, i don't know how to remove it...
[03:52] <thoreauputic> mdke: config changes sometimes ask you questions
[03:52] <h08817> well how do u restore mbr?
[03:52] <mdke> can-o-worms, i'm not only doing security updates and I still want to upgrade automatically. am I a bad person?
[03:52] <brenner> randy: not familiar with breezy problems really, sorry.
[03:52] <neo78> what is my root password???
[03:52] <neo78> when i first install ubuntu?
[03:52] <mdke> thoreauputic, true...
[03:52] <can-o-worms> mdke: well, i just spent 2 days scratching my head over samba... it turned out the latest version was screwed
[03:52] <thoreauputic> mdke: no one is saying you are a bad person :-)
[03:52] <h08817> neo78 it is ur password
[03:52] <brenner> !tell neo78 about root
[03:53] <malin> where does ubuntu keep apt-get server list?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> mdke: you are of course - but no-one is saying so *grin*
[03:53] <titaniululz> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:53] <Deep6> malin, /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:53] <malin> thx
[03:53] <shawarma> malin: /var/lib/dpkg/lists/, I think.
[03:53] <mdke> thoreauputic, ;)
[03:53] <h08817> neo78: the root password is the same password you used when u logged in
[03:53] <shawarma> malin: Oh! /etc/apt/sources.list     I misunderstood.
[03:53] <mdke> can-o-worms, well I can't find out if the latest version is screwed or not unless I install it I guess
[03:53] <Deep6> anyone know how to  invoke the dpkg --set-selections to work?
[03:53] <malin> np shawarma :-)
[03:54] <shawarma> Deep6: Yes. :-P
[03:54] <neo78> h08817, doesn't seem to do the trick
[03:54] <h08817> neo78: but be careful in root since ur new
[03:54] <mdke> can-o-worms, it's a breezy install and I want to keep it up to date overnight, rather than using my bandwidth during the day, i guess I could just get it to download the sources, but i figure that I might as well upgrade too
[03:54] <ElvenProgrammer> is it possible dev/hdc is my cdrom drive?
[03:54] <h08817> neo78: u have to already be logged in
[03:54] <shawarma> Deep6: It reads it's input from stdin.. echo 'somepackage hold' | dpkg --set-selections
[03:54] <can-o-worms> mdke: but if it all happens when you are asleep you won't know what has been installed or when
[03:54] <neo78> i'm logged in as user at the mo
[03:54] <shawarma> ElvenProgrammer: Yes.
[03:54] <mdke> can-o-worms, sure I will, cron sends me email
[03:54] <h08817> ok
[03:54] <Deep6> shawarma, I want to install my "set" programs
[03:54] <neo78> i type su at termina
[03:54] <neo78> l
[03:54] <thoreauputic> ElvenProgrammer: very possible
[03:54] <neo78> but authentication fails
[03:55] <h08817> neo78: now what do u wanna do?
[03:55] <h08817> sudo and what command?
[03:55] <neo78> login as root
[03:55] <shawarma> Deep6: Oh. That's not dpkg. That's aptitude or dselect..
[03:55] <ElvenProgrammer> shawarma: when i type grub-install it says /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding bios drive
[03:55] <neo78> just su
[03:55] <thoreauputic> neo78: use sudo <command>
[03:55] <Deep6> shawarma, I did  a dpkg --get-selections to a file before I reinstalled then I did the dpkg --set-selections < file
[03:55] <Deep6> now I need to know how to start the install
[03:55] <Deep6> of the set
[03:55] <h08817> u need a command after it
[03:55] <thoreauputic> !tell neo78 about root
[03:55] <neo78> hey! maybe a title for a book... "just su stories"
[03:55] <h08817> !root
[03:55] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:56] <h08817> go there neo87
[03:56] <h08817> sry neo78
[03:56] <Deep6> shawarma, any ideas?
[03:56] <shawarma> Deep6: Right. And then you need to make aptitude actually do the install.
[03:56] <shawarma> Deep6: 2 sec.
[03:56] <can-o-worms> mdke: i would guess that if you feel that way, then you are not running anything critcal, and a complete meltdown would probably not be the end of your world... but automatically updating anything other than security stuff is generally frowned upon in the debian world
[03:56] <Deep6> I can't do it from a command line/
[03:56] <shawarma> Deep6: aptitude install
[03:57] <shawarma> Deep6: Oh.. synaptic can probably do the same ting.
[03:57] <h08817> what is aptitude install? apt-get?
[03:57] <mdke> can-o-worms, well if you are running an unstable distribution with a lot of changes, it is difficult to check all the packages one by one
[03:57] <shawarma> Deep6: No. aptitude is another interface.
[03:57] <mdke> can-o-worms, anyhow, even if I only do security updates, the problem is still there
[03:57] <maan84> Does anyone know why Mozilla Firefox "Time Out/Freezes/Stops" when I choose install missing plugins -> shockwave -> agree then when the download bar suppose to start it happens?
[03:58] <SAMU> any idea what cheap tv cards are supported by linux?
[03:58] <h08817> same here
[03:58] <Ng> SAMU: anything Hauppauge, which is all the ones worth buying :)
[03:58] <shawarma> Deep6: just fire up synaptic and click apply. I THINK that's the same thing.
[03:58] <h08817> maan84: did the same to me u have to install them manually from the terminal
[03:58] <maan84> h08817: Ok thank you, saves me some time =P
[03:58] <Ng> SAMU: their older analogue cards are supported by bttv and the newer digital ones by a driver whos name I have just forgotten ;)
[03:59] <SAMU> Ng, do they have like unofficial linux drivers then or something? because i was just looking at a cheap card over at hauppauge.co.uk and it says windows required
[03:59] <Deep6> shawarma, I need to know how to do this from a command line #debian folks are saying just apt-get install with no args should work
[03:59] <neo78> how do i use the GUI to mount harddrives?
[03:59] <brenner> SAMU: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:59] <ElvenProgrammer> so there is a way to remove the cdrom drive?
[04:00] <neo78> i.e. WITHOUT using mount or editing fstab (for which i first of all need to figure out which dev is which)
[04:00] <ekimus> can qemu somehow share the clip with the hostmachine?
[04:00] <Ng> SAMU: they don't provide official drivers... which card was it?
[04:00] <deFrysk> ElvenProgrammer, ask someone to unplug it is the best option
[04:01] <GoClick> Is there an official Ubuntu package for PHP5?
[04:01] <Ng> SAMU: I seriously recommend one of the DVB-T cards if you have a decent aerial and get freeview reception :)
[04:01] <ElvenProgrammer> ok well thx anyway, it was a try...
[04:01] <can-o-worms> SAMU: very few vendors supply linux drivers, and even if they do everyone disses them
[04:01] <thoreauputic> neo78: type  computer:///  in the file manager  (ctrl-l for a loction field)
[04:01] <shawarma> Deep6: dselect install or aptitude install
[04:01] <Ng> can-o-worms: "everyone"?
[04:01] <deFrysk> ElvenProgrammer, you can also comment the cdromline in fstab I guess
[04:02] <Ng> can-o-worms: like all the official vendor supplied drivers in the kernel? ;)
[04:02] <shawarma> shawarma: dpkg --set-selections just marks the packages for installation. aptitude or dselect actually makes it happen.
[04:02] <SAMU> Ng, model name is HAU-751
[04:02] <shawarma> Deep6: dpkg --set-selections just marks the packages for installation. aptitude or dselect actually makes it happen.
[04:02] <can-o-worms> Ng: like the nvidia drivers?
[04:02] <thoreauputic> neo78: or click the Computer menu (I'm using a different window manager)
[04:02] <Ng> can-o-worms: they are not in the kernel, they are distributed seperately
[04:02] <SAMU> is it possible to use the tv capabilities of the voodoo 3 3500 tv somehow?
[04:02] <Ng> can-o-worms: I mean things like e100 and aic7xxx, which are supplied by Intel and Adaptec respectively
[04:02] <can-o-worms> Ng: or the philips webcam?
[04:02] <mihai> how can i enable the repository that has w32codecs or whatever?
[04:03] <Ng> can-o-worms: when did philips submit an official driver to kernel.org?
[04:03] <Ng> never
[04:03] <Ng> so no!
[04:03] <neo78> thoreauputic, thanks, but it only shows devices already mounted
[04:03] <can-o-worms> Ng: or the via raid stuff?
[04:03] <Ng> can-o-worms: what via raid stuff?
[04:03] <Belutz> !repos
[04:03] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:03] <can-o-worms> Ng: exactly
[04:03] <Ng> can-o-worms: you are misunderstanding what I am saying
[04:03] <shawarma> Deep6: does "dselect install" do the trick?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> neo78: erm - here it shows anything that's in fstab
[04:03] <deFrysk> mihai, study the pages on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:04] <Ng> can-o-worms: my point was that when vendors submit drivers to the kernel they are not dismissed by anyone
[04:04] <deFrysk> most answers lay there
[04:04] <Ng> you said vendor drivers are dismissed by everyone
[04:04] <mihai> deFrysk, well i don't know what repo is that
[04:04] <neo78> thoreauputic, same here... but i'm talking about mounting a drive that's currently unmounted
[04:04] <thoreauputic> neo78: mounted or not - you click the relevant icon
[04:04] <deFrysk> mihai, its all in the wiki ;)
[04:04] <deFrysk> mihai, so read i ok ?
[04:04] <neo78> thoreauputic, i can't see my SATA drives (ntfs drives)
[04:04] <deFrysk> it*
[04:04] <can-o-worms> Ng: so long as they are open source they aren't
[04:04] <GoClick> When I go "sudo groups saleient" it tells me there is no user but there is
[04:04] <thoreauputic> neo78: ah - ntfs
[04:05] <thoreauputic> neo78: you need a line for ntfs stuff in fstab
[04:05] <thoreauputic> or several
[04:05] <princ_hotsauce> is there a way to play partypoker.com game on the ubuntu ?
[04:05] <neo78> thoreauputic, that's what i thought... i think fedora had a gui way of doing it
[04:05] <GoClick> princ_hotsauce wine might do it
[04:05] <PeaceMakr> anyone not so new with ubuntu living in Joburg pls contact me
[04:05] <neo78> btw, how big is ubuntu?
[04:06] <ElvenProgrammer> deFrysk: does it need to reboot to apply?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> neo78: yeah, this is something ubuntu got wrong IMO - it should happen automagically
[04:06] <deFrysk> ElvenProgrammer, I do not think so
[04:06] <PeaceMakr> neo78 i got ubuntu on 1 cd
[04:06] <Ng> SAMU: yeah, that'll work fine
[04:06] <SAMU> Ng, voodoo 3500 tv?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> neo78: in the meantime you need to do some editing or use seveas' script
[04:06] <Ng> SAMU: sorry, the WinTV Express
[04:06] <thoreauputic> !tell neo78 about mountwindows
[04:07] <SAMU> Ng, so the HAU-751?
[04:07] <neo78> thoreauputic, thanks!
[04:08] <thoreauputic> neo78: :) you're welcome
[04:08] <Mac38DO> Hi! My keyboard does not work, when I boot from an actual Ubuntu-CD.
[04:08] <SAMU> on a sidenote has anyone noticed the similarity between the logos of microsofts myspace blog thingy and ubuntu?
[04:08] <tommi^> Hi. Why is my totem skipping(?) lot of frames so the video shows like it's stuttering. Sound is ok and everything works with mplayer but I want to get totem working. Any ideas? thanks
[04:08] <GoClick> tommi^ I can't even get totem working!
[04:08] <brenner> tommi^: this a DVD or local file?
[04:08] <ElvenProgrammer> deFrysk: grub-install still give me the same output, thx anyway
[04:08] <brenner> GoClick: what probs you having?
[04:09] <tommi^> brenner, it's a local file.
[04:09] <brenner> tommi^: in any case, install totem-xine
[04:09] <Ng> SAMU: yeah, as far as I can tell the 751 is the WinTV Express
[04:09] <deFrysk> tommi^, maybe you need totem-xine ?
[04:09] <tommi^> brenner, right. I think I'm using the gstreamer versin.
[04:09] <brenner> tommi^: the default gstreamer backend has caused probs with a lot of people
[04:09] <PeaceMakr> can someone help me with my iburst setup?
[04:09] <neo78> thoreauputic, do i simply copy the text there to a file (let's say mountScript) and go ./mountScript ?
[04:09] <tommi^> brenner, oright. Thanks, I'll try and get back to you
[04:10] <thoreauputic> neo78: see the instructions he gives in the comments
[04:10] <Deep6> apt-get dselect-upgrade is how you do it guys
[04:10] <tommi^> Such a pity that if it's causing the problems, gstreamer is a good thing
[04:10] <deFrysk> ElvenProgrammer,  grub is supposed to detect your cdrom
[04:11] <thoreauputic> neo78: you need to use sudo bash  etc - it's all there in the comments
[04:11] <neo78> thoreauputic, dang... sorry, i see it now!
[04:11] <thoreauputic> neo78: no worries :)
[04:11] <tommi^> And we have a winner! It works!
[04:12] <SAMU> Ng, w00t. i should get one of those then.
[04:12] <Mac38DO> Hi! My USB-keyboard does not work, when I boot from an actual Ubuntu-CD. Any ideas? Any kernel parameter, which might help?
[04:12] <thoreauputic> neo78: right click, save as should do it (save to your home dir is easiest, rather than Desktop)
[04:12] <brenner> tommi^: glad to hear ... if it's any consolation, iirc the gstreamer issues will be fixed in breezy
[04:12] <delire> a bunch of x86 ubuntu cd's arrived today but all of them fail at the same location in the install process, debootstrapping. anyone else have this experience? i have only tried on one machine albeit.
[04:13] <thoreauputic> delire: do you have another machine to test on?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> delire: seems highly unlikely that they are all duds...
[04:14] <delire> thoreauputic: hmm not really, i don't want to reinstall ubuntu anywhere other than on this machine. i'll find a box somewhere, somehow and report again.
[04:14] <adriyel> hi delire
[04:14] <delire> thoreauputic: ../ agreed ;)
[04:14] <adriyel> remember me? the guy who was having problems with firefox
[04:14] <delire> adriyel: hi there.
[04:14] <delire> adriyel: yep, sure do.
[04:14] <adriyel> did I tell you what the problem was, and how I fixed it?
[04:14] <tommi^> brenner, that's good to know. mplayer seemed to have some problems syncing video and sound, especially if I rewinded the video but I can't say for sure if it was player's or the videos fault. The video just seemed to get a second or two behind the sound. But anyway, thanks for all ubuntu developers and to you, branner.
[04:14] <delire> adriyel: no, how did you fix it?
[04:15] <adriyel> delire: we found out libflash-mozplugin.so wasn't 64 bit clean, with a gdb backtrace...friggin unstable
[04:15] <brenner> tommi^: np
[04:15] <delire> adriyel: ahah interesting..
[04:15] <kumaran> hi..any clue on how to retain the vnc client session which is crashed and logged out unexpectedly
[04:15] <adriyel> delire: the reason the crashing seemed "pseudo-random" and not triggered by websites, is because I was getting flashvertisements "pseudo-randomly"
[04:15] <adriyel> delire: I mv'ed it out of there into /backup
[04:15] <adriyel> so, no probs
[04:16] <neo78> brb, reboot...
[04:16] <kumaran> hi all
[04:16] <delire> adriyel: very weird.. though i thought you said the random segfaults were during periods of no activity, even without a loaded site.
[04:16] <adriyel> *nods* it seemed random, but they weren't seg faults, it was crashing on a new thread
[04:17] <adriyel> the new thread was for the flash
[04:17] <adriyel> and the random ads
[04:17] <delire> adriyel: hmm nasty
[04:17] <kumaran> can any one tell me how to retain a vnc client session which was kicked out
[04:17] <adriyel> indeed, delire, thats gotta be the weirdest, hardest to dredge up bug I've ever had on Linux
[04:17] <godzirra> delire: still no luck getting it working.
[04:17] <sproingie> i never heard of a 64bit version of flash
[04:17] <adriyel> not necessarily a negative thing towards Ubuntu, just fact
[04:17] <adriyel> sprongie, it comes built into Ubuntu 64
[04:17] <godzirra> delire: wine I mean... winetools wants wine, not libwine, and in ubuntu, wine has been replaced with libwine apparently.
[04:18] <adriyel> Athon64 3500 here
[04:18] <Brad_c> hey
[04:18] <sproingie> adriyel: must be breezy then, i certainly dont have it
[04:18] <Brad_c> can someone tell me where i go to set up multiple monitors?
[04:18] <adriyel> nope Hoary
[04:18] <adriyel> 5.04
[04:18] <Brad_c> i have two pluged in
[04:18] <Brad_c> but with the same thing on each
[04:18] <adriyel> ~/.mozilla/firefox/libflash-mozplugin.so
[04:18] <adriyel> go look
[04:18] <delire> godzirra: getting what working?
[04:19] <delire> godzirra: sorry, it's been a while.
[04:19] <sproingie> is that actually macrodobe's version, or some third party thing?
[04:19] <Ng> sproingie: it's a third party GPL version
[04:19] <Brad_c> can anyone please tell me?
[04:19] <delire> godzirra: ahah wine. weren't your repositories a problem?
[04:19] <sproingie> Ng: ah. my experience with those is that they're not worth using
[04:20] <Brad_c> does anyone know how to set up multiple monitors?
[04:20] <sproingie> heck the only thing that makes flash worthwhile is the complex stuff that isn't bling
[04:20] <Ng> sproingie: easiest solution ime is to run firefox from a 32bit chroot ;)
[04:20] <neo78> back...
[04:20] <Ng> Brad_c: what kind of graphics card?
[04:20] <sproingie> Ng: yep, it's what I do
[04:20] <Crube> I've got a problem. I ran out of space in my hd, but it cant be possible, becouse I have about 50% of the drive really used. The trash is empty. I wonder what's taking almost half of my space in my hd O_o
[04:20] <Brad_c> its an ati 128
[04:20] <godzirra> delire: I'm not sure...  after uncommenting those though, I can get libwine, but not winetools.
[04:20] <Brad_c> they are both displaying the same desktop
[04:21] <neo78> thoreauputic, thanks a lot! that worked brilliantly ! (though my system bitched a bit while starting up)
[04:21] <delire> godzirra: hehe how annoying
[04:21] <brenner> Crube: how are you checking space?
[04:21] <ubuntu> what do you guy think of mac seitching to intels
[04:21] <Ng> Brad_c: I'm not sure then, sorry. only done it with nvidia cards, which works differently
[04:22] <delire> godzirra: you could try the _risky_ 'apt-get -f install' and ensure that nothing important is removed before accepting.
[04:22] <Brad_c> Ng is there somewhere to configure it?
[04:22] <delire> godzirra: then attempt to install winetools again.
[04:22] <Crube> brenner:  with gtkdiskfree, and I'm not able to intall one program becouse it says I'm lacking space
[04:22] <Ng> Brad_c: it'll involve editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and putting dual monitor configuration entries in, try googling for linux xinerama ati
[04:23] <ndlovu> quick question: where does wget download files to? your current directory?
[04:23] <neo78> is Totem mediaplayer any good? if no, what should i get, if yes, how do i get codecs to play my movies (mostly avis)
[04:23] <Ng> ndlovu: yes
[04:23] <Brad_c> alright thanks Ng
[04:23] <Ng> neo78: totem is ok, some people prefer totem-xine. generally you want everything listed on the RestrictedFormats wiki page :)
[04:23] <ndlovu> Ng: thanks.
[04:23] <neo78> "Totem Movie Player"
[04:24] <brenner> Crube: maybe try: 'du -h | less' and see where the usage is
[04:24] <Ng> du has a --max-depth option which is quite nice for overview summaries of disk usage
[04:24] <adriyel> Ng: I had FUN getting mp3's to work. XMMS and BMP still crash though
[04:24] <brenner> Ng: totem-xine just changes the backend from totem's default gstreamer .. still essentially the same app :)
[04:25] <adriyel> delire: brb, gonna try E17
[04:25] <delire> adriyel: good luck, an interesting project.
[04:25] <Ng> brenner: I know what it does and I'd disagree as to the similarity, totem is really just a tiny layer on top of either gstreamer or xine
[04:25] <adriyel> *nods* @ delire
[04:25] <Crube> brenner:  that list is so long it's impossible to find anything :P
[04:25] <rizla> hello
[04:25] <delire> Crube: use the --max-depth option as Ng suggests
[04:25] <brenner> Ng: oh ok, maybe i'm mistaken ... i thought gstreamer/xine were the video engines
[04:26] <Ng> brenner: they are, but that's about 99% of what a media player is ;)
[04:26] <neo78> dang... now i'm confused?
[04:26] <godzirra> delire: ok, I'll try that.
[04:27] <brenner> Ng: then what *is* the difference b/n totem and totem-xine? :)
[04:27] <delire> Crube: du -h --max-depth 1
[04:27] <adriyel> delire: ok, Enlightenment wasn't listed in "Session" how do I change my window manager?
[04:28] <delire> adriyel: i'd look at creating an ~/.xinitrc and adding 'exec enlightenment' (if that's the name) in there.
[04:28] <Belutz> adriyel: killall metacity & enligtenment &
[04:28] <neo78> basically, all i wanna know... is how do i play movies in Totem (since it complains about not having a codec. most of my stuff is DivX)
[04:28] <Ng> brenner: they both have the same visual interface, which is a thin layer on top of the complex multimedia libraries that actually do all the decoding/playing and you can choose to have xine or gstreamer backend libraries. My original point was that even though they both look the same, they are fundementally different inside.
[04:28] <delire> adriyel: but yeah, just kill them for now to try it out.
[04:28] <Ng> neo78: install the things listed on the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[04:28] <Ng> I did say that :)
[04:28] <neo78> Ng, do you have a URL ?
[04:28] <Ng> wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:29] <rizla> how can i  manage my connection by text-line?
[04:29] <neo78> no you didn't... you said "generally you want everything listed on the RestrictedFormats wiki page :)"
[04:29] <brenner> Ng: ok, you've enlightened me :)
[04:29] <neo78> ;)
[04:29] <adriyel> hmm
[04:29] <Ng> neo78: which is the same thing
[04:29] <adriyel> that was dirty
[04:29] <neo78> Ng, syntactically, they're definitely not... semantically, they mean two different things to me, but the same thing to you...
[04:29] <adriyel> delire: I've got gnome and enlightenment running at the same time
[04:29] <godzirra> delire: even using apt-get -f install winetools, it says "No...  piss off"
[04:30] <Ng> neo78: less backchat, more installing :)
[04:30] <godzirra> unmet dependencies
[04:30] <neo78> Ng,  ditto!
[04:30] <neo78> ;)
[04:30] <Ng> neo78: my system already plays everything :o
[04:30] <Ng> -o+p
[04:30] <delire> adriyel: hehe yuk.
[04:30] <neo78> you don't take backchat from the public?
[04:30] <adriyel> ok, fsck this, xinitrc
[04:31] <battletux> can someone help getting the external vga connector on my laptop to work?
[04:31] <srijith> battletux, tried the obvious restart of X solution?
[04:31] <neo78> battletux, yeah. step1: plug it in
[04:32] <delire> godzirra: well i'd have to have a solid look at your sources.list and also the error output. i'm about to leave work so sadly you'll need to look elsewhere for help. many people in here use wine, there will be a simple reason as to why you have these odd dependency problems. compare sources.lists with that of the default hoary repo list.
[04:32] <battletux> it's plugged in, and restarted. i now have no display on monitor
[04:32] <tommi^> Another totem question: Why, in full screen mode, the controls won't clear out after a while? The clock does stop without activity and continues when mouse is moved but doesn't fade to black.
[04:32] <Ng> tommi^: I think that's a bug :/
[04:32] <battletux> have installed nvidia drivers as ubuntuguide
[04:32] <phreakys> hi
[04:32] <neo78> no legal way to play DVDs on linux ???
[04:32] <neo78> whaaaa!!
[04:33] <phreakys> sure there is
[04:33] <tommi^> Ng, probably yes.
[04:33] <Ng> neo78: please direct your anger to the DVD-CCA @
[04:33] <adriyel> now my windows are all fscked up delire
[04:33] <Ng> neo78: they won't give out free licenses :(
[04:33] <godzirra> delire: where can I find the default hoary list?
[04:33] <godzirra> delire: and no problem at about you leaving.. I appreciate all your help already :)
[04:33] <adriyel> I needz Slack :( delire.
[04:33] <delire> adriyel: you'll need to ensure gnome-session doesn't run at all.
[04:34] <neo78> Ng, sheesh, that page is complicated
[04:34] <delire> adriyel: sorry, metacity.
[04:34] <delire> godzirra: anytime. good luck. you'll get there soon.
[04:34] <Ng> neo78: yeah, it covers quite a range of stuff, but it's worth ploughing through :)
[04:34] <godzirra> Anyone know where I can go find the default hoary sources list?
[04:34] <godzirra> actually.. I did apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:34] <godzirra> I shouldnt be using hoary anymore should I?
[04:35] <Ng> hoary is the current stable release
[04:35] <Ng> you should be using it unless you know better :)
[04:36] <neo78> Ng, cool. How do i install the stuff though? looks like i'm gonna want gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8--ffmpeg, possibly gstreamer0.8-plugins, w32codecs etc (though i'm still confused about the totem-xine vs. totem-gstreamer thing)
[04:37] <Ng> neo78: you need to add universe and multiverse repositories and use apt-get or synaptic to install those packages. the page should say. w32codecs I prefer to grab by hand from the marillat repository and personally I prefer totem-gstreamer, but if that gives you problems feel free to switch to totem-xine
[04:37] <godzirra> Ng: ok.. I'm just trying to get wine and winetools installed but I can't yet.. any idea where I can find a default hoary souces.list for apt?
[04:37] <Hamman> www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:37] <osfameron> I think winetools is borken in hoary
[04:37] <neo78> which totem do i have (hoary hedgehog default install)?
[04:37] <Ng> godzirra: offhand no, but mine is http://www.pointlessrubbish.net/sources.list and has main, restricted, universe, multiverse and backports
[04:38] <Ng> neo78: totem-gstreamer
[04:38] <neo78> cool
[04:39] <srijith> how do I get back the nice round hourflass replacement of ubuntu? Some change in theme changed it and I can't seem to get it back
[04:39] <Crube> What's the "proc" folder in /?
[04:39] <srijith> s/flass/glass
[04:39] <malin> can ubuntu handle ntfs filesystem?
[04:39] <Ng> Crube: it's a fake filesystem provided by the kernel so programs can find information and/or control the kernel
[04:39] <srijith> malin, read yes
[04:39] <Ng> Crube: e.g. run "cat /proc/cpuinfo" in a terminal, what actually happened was the kernel prepared that information and pretended to cat that it's a file
[04:39] <malin> srijith, i did cat /proc/filesystems and it wasn't there
[04:40] <Crube> Ng:  i just wondered why it's 1gb bit and it doesn't seem to have anything in it :D
[04:40] <Ng> Crube: that sounds deeply wrong :)
[04:40] <srijith> malin, why not try and mount it? mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/nfts assuming /mnt/ntfs has been created
[04:40] <Crube> Ng:  thought so ^
[04:40] <Ng> Crube: does /proc show up in the output of "mount" in a terminal?
[04:40] <godzirra> Ng: k, I'm checking it out.. .do you have wine and winetools installed out of curiousity?  And if not can you apt-get just to see if ti gives you dependency issues?
[04:41] <srijith> malin, I have it mine, under nodev and I can mount ntfs for read
[04:41] <Ng> godzirra: I use Crossover and Cedega, so I have enough wine installed already ;)
[04:41] <godzirra> whats crossover?
[04:41] <Crube> Ng:  ok after refreshing it it shows empty and doesn't have anything in it.
[04:41] <Ng> godzirra: www.codeweavers.com
[04:41] <srijith> thoreauputic, any idea how to get back the nice round hour glass replacement of ubuntu? Some change in theme changed it and I can't seem to get it back
[04:41] <malin> srijith, can it be mounted for read and write?
[04:41] <godzirra> and cedega isnt free is it?
[04:41] <Ng> godzirra: neither is crossover ;(
[04:42] <godzirra> ahh bummer
[04:42] <Ng> Crube: you might want to run "sudo mount /proc" in a terminal
[04:42] <srijith> I dont think write on ntfs works fine.. don't try it if you mind losing any data :)
[04:42] <godzirra> I just want it for running stuff like yahoo messenger, palm desktop/apps, etc.
[04:42] <Ng> godzirra: wine seems to be installable though
[04:42] <thoreauputic> srijith: nice round hour glass ? No clue what you are talking about...
[04:42] <godzirra> nothing big enough that I want to pay money for it :)
[04:42] <Ng> godzirra: I don't see a winetools package though
[04:42] <brenner> isn't cedega cvs free?
[04:42] <godzirra> Ng: dangit.
[04:42] <Ng> brenner: true
[04:42] <sproingie> that round hourglass cursor is the one built into xorg i think
[04:42] <Ng> brenner: no .deb and no copyprotection though :/
[04:42] <Crube> But cedega cvs doesn't support dx9
[04:42] <srijith> thoreauputic, the default installof Ubuntu gives a mouse arrow like a round spinning thingie.. doesn't it?
[04:43] <srijith> mouse pointer or whatever it is called
[04:43] <thoreauputic> srijith: ah, I see - and you lost it in fluxbox?
[04:43] <brenner> Ng: copyprotection? (sorry, still keep windows solely for gaming)
[04:43] <neo78> Ng, what's the deal with Ogg Vorbis ?
[04:43] <srijith> nope.. before that when i was trying to change themes in Gnome.
[04:43] <neo78> can it play mp3, avi etc?
[04:43] <srijith> thoreauputic, trying to change bacl the theme does not bring ot back :(
[04:43] <malin> hm
[04:44] <thoreauputic> srijith: hmm - try installing gcursor and selecting it
[04:44] <malin> i don't have access to that disc
[04:44] <Ng> brenner: yeah, things like SafeDisc, stuff that prevents you straight copying a disc
[04:44] <srijith> malin, which disk?
[04:44] <malin> when i try to enter the directory i get access denied
[04:44] <srijith> thoreauputic, ok.. will try
[04:44] <Crube> I've started to use linux for gaming. Cedega does cost, and I think that's wrong. Afterall playing games using it is still not easy
[04:44] <srijith> malin, which dir?
[04:44] <Ng> neo78: it should work out of the box
[04:44] <malin> hda1, my ntfs hdd
[04:44] <malin> /mnt/ntfs
[04:44] <srijith> you need to be root..
[04:44] <Ng> neo78: oh, ogg vorbis is just another encoding format, like mp3
[04:44] <thoreauputic> srijith: you select the cursor theme, logout/login
[04:45] <malin> it has 755 rights
[04:45] <srijith> else you will need to tweak the perrmissions
[04:45] <Ng> Crube: I use cedega because I'd rather pay than reboot and buy a windows license ;)
[04:45] <malin> wait
[04:45] <srijith> thoreauputic, selection using gcursor?
[04:45] <Crube> malin try mounting it by typing "sudo mount -t ntfs -o user,rw,exec,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/"
[04:45] <malin> no
[04:45] <thoreauputic> srijith: yup
[04:45] <malin> i got no rights to view it
[04:45] <Crube> malin:  try "udo mount -t ntfs -o user,rw,exec,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/" It will make the mount accessible for every user.
[04:46] <srijith> malin, just to make sure it did mount, why not try and become root and then try to cd?
[04:46] <Crube> So you can access your windows partition as user.
[04:46] <thoreauputic> srijith: select the "human" theme
[04:46] <srijith> thoreauputic, ok.. gonna try it now
[04:46] <malin> funnt thing is, when i do su and enter my pass, it won't give me access
[04:46] <recover> Can anyone recommend a good ftp program which supports SSH connection, I have tried gftp but for some reason it skip all the files (you can't imagine how irritating it is)
[04:46] <malin> funny*
[04:47] <thoreauputic> !tell malin about root
[04:47] <srijith> malin, try sudo -s -H
[04:47] <malin> thanks thoreauputic
[04:47] <Crube> malin:  you need to set your root password if you havent done it yet. If you're the only one using the comp set the root password to be the same as your password so you can use the same password everyhere
[04:47] <srijith> and then once you are root, cd
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Crube: totally unnecessary - sudo -i does the same as su (gives you a root shell)
[04:48] <Crube> malin:  and if you want to browse files a root you can use "alt+f2" and start your file browser as root, so you can browse files accessible only for root
[04:49] <malin> thx 4 the tip :-)
[04:49] <apokryphos> Crube: you shouldn't advise people to make a root account
[04:49] <malin> i'm trying to do all at one moment :-)
[04:49] <Crube> apokryphos:  i didn't O_o
[04:49] <thoreauputic> malin: don't do what Crube said - you don't need to
[04:50] <apokryphos> Crube: "you need to set your root password if you haven't done it yet" -- yes, you are.
[04:50] <srijith> thoreauputic, great.. worked :)
[04:50] <Crube> thoreauputic:  yes but I had problems using root password in console
[04:50] <thoreauputic> srijith: :D
[04:50] <apokryphos> Crube: eh? What problems?
[04:50] <thoreauputic> Crube: you don't need a root password - sudo -i  is enough
[04:51] <Crube> apokryphos:  I wasn't able to use sudo or use root as konsole, becouse after installing ubuntu there was no root password set
[04:51] <srijith> note, *sudo* -i, not su -i
[04:51] <apokryphos> Crube: you're not meant to use su
[04:51] <jono> is it possible to upgrade from woody to hoary?
[04:51] <apokryphos> Crube: you're meant to use sudo, which requires *your* password
[04:51] <Crube> apokryphos:  yes but I wasn't able  to use sudo eighter.
[04:51] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Crube about root
[04:51] <malin> ok, got it
[04:51] <apokryphos> Crube: with the user you originally used? Plainly not true.
[04:51] <thoreauputic> jono: possible, yes
[04:52] <apokryphos> Crube: if that was the case then you *would not have been able to set the root pass*
[04:52] <Ng> hey jono :)
[04:52] <thoreauputic> jono: recommended, no ;)
[04:52] <malin> The disc is mounted properly, i can see all the data. I just have to mount it properly, just like Crube said
[04:52] <jono> hi Ng
[04:52] <jono> thoreauputic, I figured so :P
[04:52] <srijith> malin, great
[04:53] <jono> is there a cleve way to identify which script started apache/mysql?
[04:53] <Crube> apokryphos: I was able to do things as root in kde, but the terminal it never accepted my password so I wasn't able to use sudo. That's why I had to set the password with kuser to be the same as my user password. After tht it started working.
[04:53] <thoreauputic> jono: cat /etc/init.d/apache2  ?
[04:53] <thoreauputic> or whatever...
[04:53] <mihai> grr, this is annoying, first i needed a package that was not in the hoary repository, i enabled breezy in apt.conf, now i tried to enable this multiverse repository, and something doesn't work, since there's no mplayer
[04:53] <malin> how do i abandon root rights after doing sudo -s?
[04:54] <crashd> exit
[04:54] <jono> thoreauputic, it is part of xampp, so started from /opt/lampp/lampp
[04:54] <thoreauputic> malin: ctrl-d ?
[04:54] <mihai> so damn annoying why did you have to separate them, in breezy warty hoary blah
[04:54] <thoreauputic> jono: ah
[04:54] <apokryphos> Crube: Impossible. Listen, you cannot set the root pass without using sudo; ordinary users cannot alter the *root* account. Hence, sudo must have been working for you to set a root pass
[04:54] <malin> thx
[04:54] <mihai> who the f*** picks these names anyway ?
[04:54] <apokryphos> mihai: Mark Shuttleworth
[04:55] <apokryphos> he pays himself specifically to think them up ;-)
[04:55] <Crube> apokryphos:  at least not in terminal it wasn't. And I had loads of trouble with it
[04:55] <neo78> lol
[04:55] <mihai> gay
[04:55] <apokryphos> Crube: you were evidently doing something wrong; you shouldn't presuppose that the contrary was occuring if you don't have a sufficient understanding of what's going on. :/
[04:55] <mihai> ok so tell me how do i get mplayer, i can't stand this any longer
[04:55] <srijith> Crube, strange.. havent heard anyone who has had such a problem
[04:55] <apokryphos> srijith: it's because there was no such problem, most likely :)
[04:55] <brenner> !mplayer
[04:55] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:56] <thoreauputic> Crube: you're in a minority of one on this subject, methinks :)
[04:56] <mihai> i already read that wiki
[04:56] <mihai> it tells me to ad..
[04:56] <ios> Inn
[04:56] <mihai> so if i modified apt.conf with breezy instead of hoary, i have breezy now ?
[04:56] <ios> Hello
[04:56] <mihai> the breezy part applies to me ?
[04:56] <apokryphos> mihai: sources.list --yes
[04:56] <ios> de
[04:56] <tux> warum?
[04:56] <brenner> mihai: did you dist upgrade?
[04:57] <thoreauputic> mihai: mplayer is in multiverse - if you are getting errors you've fubar ed your sources
[04:57] <tux> bin ich schon drin?
[04:57] <Crube> apokryphos:  I must have done something terribly wrong. I had this problem only with kubuntu, but not with ubuntu, so it might be me not using kde right.
[04:57] <mihai> apokryphos, yeah sources.list, that one
[04:57] <brenner> thoreauputic: he's using breezy sources in hoary ... this is a no-no correct?
[04:57] <apokryphos> Crube: sudo operates exactly the same in KDE, and sudo is independent of it
[04:57] <apokryphos> brenner: not if he wants to upgrade to breezy
[04:58] <Proclivity> greetings... newbie here with a question
[04:58] <thoreauputic> brenner: well, unless you are a pinning guru, yeah I think so
[04:58] <brenner> apokryphos: but i don't think he has
[04:58] <brenner> apokryphos: afaict, he's just using breezy sources
[04:58] <brenner> in hoary
[04:58] <brenner> mihai: did you dist upgrade?
[04:58] <apokryphos> brenner: then he might well end up getting breezy by accident :)
[04:58] <mihai> brenner, no i didn't upgrade fully to breezy, i just enabled it to get valknut
[04:58] <mihai> should i switch back brenner ?
[04:59] <apokryphos> brenner: though, if he doesn't specifically dist-upgrade he could ruin his system by running some breezy and hoary things. Could produce incompatibility issues
[04:59] <apokryphos> mihai: risky
[04:59] <brenner> that's what i was thinking
[04:59] <Crube> apokryphos: yes, but still my kde konsole never allowed me to use sudo. It asked me the password, but didn't accept it. I was able to run programs as root with "alt+f2"
[04:59] <mihai> apokryphos, bah, gentoo is much easier than this
[04:59] <apokryphos> Crube: and typing what in alt+f2? Alt+f2 is just a konsole, you know?
[05:00] <thoreauputic> mihai: if you like gentoo, use it :)
[05:00] <thoreauputic> mihai: reading the docs always helps on any distro, of course
[05:00] <Proclivity> I am attempting install of Hoary and hardware search isn't finding my second drive which is already Windoze partitioned... that is where I would like to install - any ideas?
[05:00] <mihai> thoreauputic, my partition is too small for it, i'll be using it fully in a week or two, gentoo has no versions !!!
[05:00] <srijith> quick q on ntfs in fstab, will "/dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0" get me a rw mount for user with uid 1000?
[05:00] <Crube> apokryphos: for example runnign kuser and else as "different user"
[05:00] <mihai> well right now i jsut wan to play a damn movie
[05:00] <benkong2> anybody help with RewriteEngine module for apache2? Cannot find the module
[05:00] <apokryphos> Crube: and else?
[05:01] <mihai> so what multiverse should i add breazy or hoary ?
[05:01] <apokryphos> Crube: you can run kuser as a normal user, but you'll most likely need root perms to make changes
[05:01] <apokryphos> mihai: if you're on hoary, then hoary ones of course
[05:02] <brenner> srijith: are you against using a utility, or do you prefer the fstab route?
[05:02] <brenner> *i.e. do you prefer
[05:02] <Crube> apokryphos: I ran kuser as root to give pass to root, so I was able to use sudo in konsole, which I couldn't do before
[05:02] <srijith> brenner, I want it to be automounted on boot
[05:02] <brenner> !tell srijith about ntfs
[05:02] <thoreauputic> srijith: ntfs is read-only though
[05:02] <apokryphos> Crube: do you *want* to muck up your system? You shouldn't ever run GUI apps in KDE (and probably gnome) without using kdesu/gksudo
[05:03] <srijith> thoreauputic, yup.. forgot that..
[05:03] <srijith> brenner, if I do it the fstab way, is it correct?
[05:03] <apokryphos> Crube: so, right now, enter a konsole and type sudo {somecommand} -- you're telling me it doesn't accept it?
[05:03] <mihai> apokryphos, but my sources.list is all breezy
[05:03] <apokryphos> mihai: your sources.list should reflect the distribution/version that you are running
[05:03] <Crube> apokryphos:  It does accept it now
[05:03] <thoreauputic> srijith: I have
[05:03] <thoreauputic> /dev/hda1       /windows        ntfs    noauto,ro,users,umask=022 0 0
[05:04] <apokryphos> mihai: having breezy sources and running hoary is evidently going to either give you breezy or cause issues
[05:04] <Crube> apokryphos:  But it didn't accept it before I went to kuser and gave root a pass (which is same as the user pass)
[05:04] <thoreauputic> srijith: but if you want auto mount on boot  s/noauto/auto
[05:04] <brenner> srijith: not exactly sure of all the fstab syntax to tell you the truth. :) which is why i suggested the utility.  it will mount it for you ... you can then worry about learning fstab syntax later :)
[05:04] <mihai> apokryphos, but how else can i get a package that's not in hoary ?
[05:04] <brenner> srijith: or you could just get thoreauputic  to tell you :)
[05:05] <apokryphos> Crube: type alt+f2 -> kdesu kuser, and put in your *user* pass. It will work, I guarantee it.
[05:05] <apokryphos> mihai: (i) not run hoary; (ii) risk using it;  (iii) compile.
[05:05] <Crube> apokryphos:  indeed it works when I run it fromk alt+f2 and put the pass there. But for some reason sudo didn't work in konsole. It didn't accept the pas there. That was the problem I had.
[05:06] <mihai> apokryphos, yeah that's why gentoo is the best, no versions and such
[05:06] <apokryphos> :S
[05:06] <Ng> hehe
[05:06] <srijith> thoreauputic, umask=022 implies write :)
[05:06] <Ng> shame about all that compiling though ;)
[05:06] <apokryphos> mihai: you can always run the "development" version here if you want to. Breezy is reasonably stable at the moment
[05:06] <mihai> ng there are binary repos you can get binaries if you really want
[05:06] <poe-t> hi! how do I add cyrillic to LaTeX in ubuntu?
[05:07] <Ng> mihai: I know :)
[05:07] <srijith> thoreauputic, crap.. I am sorry, me was wrong there
[05:07] <thoreauputic> srijith: heh
[05:07] <srijith> 2 = read=execute
[05:07] <Proclivity> anyone have a moment to advise on install
[05:07] <srijith> s/=/+
[05:07] <mihai> you could've made an ubuntu based on gentoo just as easy, it would've been much better, something like vida linux, just more decent
[05:07] <tahorg> poe-t: scalable-cyrfonts-tex - Scalable Cyrillic fonts for TeX
[05:07] <tahorg> ?
[05:07] <brenner> Proclivity: ask away
[05:08] <pitti> poe-t: install latex-ucs, \usepackage[utf8] {inputenc}, just paste it there; should work
[05:08] <thoreauputic> srijith: 022 implies 644 perms on files, 755 on dirs
[05:08] <Proclivity> I'm attempting install on my machine - only sees my primary drive not the second 200 G
[05:08] <poe-t> pitti, thanks a lot.. the text should be utf8, right?
[05:08] <Proclivity> I have that partitioned and a 60G partition reserved for Ubuntu, but
[05:08] <Bombu> How much HD space does Ubuntu require?
[05:08] <Proclivity> install doesn't see it
[05:09] <apokryphos> Bombu: few gigs
[05:09] <Bombu> more than 5?
[05:09] <poe-t> Bombu, something around 1,8 Gb
[05:09] <thoreauputic> Bombu: default install is about  1.8 Gig
[05:09] <apokryphos> Bombu: original installation -- no, certainly not.
[05:09] <srijith> thoreauputic, yup.. so u are +w for root aren't you?
[05:09] <tombs> hi ppl
[05:09] <Bombu> hopefuly I have a large enough hard drive...
[05:09] <brenner> Bombu: 1.8gb typical, 350mb minimal
[05:09] <else> does anyone has an idea why my mobile phone doesn't find my pc (bluetooth)? i can pair them, but the mobile doesn't find it when i want to send a file to the pc.
[05:09] <thoreauputic> srijith: you won't be able to write to ntfs - it's kind of academic :)
[05:10] <Proclivity> is there a way to manually browse to that drive to install?
[05:10] <srijith> thoreauputic,  :)
[05:10] <Proclivity> during install
[05:10] <poe-t> Bombu, you may need some space for /var/cache/apt (thats wjere new packages gets downloaded prior to install), and /home/bombu of course ;-)
[05:10] <thoreauputic> srijith: and 7 is needed for directory access
[05:10] <malin> when i try to install anything by apt-get, it says there is no such packet
[05:10] <malin> am i doing anything wrong?
[05:10] <malin> i tried sudo apt-get install quodlibet
[05:10] <else> malin, sudo apt-get update
[05:11] <else> malin, sudo apt-cache search quodlibet
[05:11] <Bombu> Anyone from Canada have any problems with the free shipping i would like to kow before i order.
[05:11] <Bombu> *know
[05:11] <thoreauputic> malin:  apt-cache search <keyword> to see package names
[05:11] <malin> apt-cache search quodlibet found nothing
[05:11] <thoreauputic> else: no need for sudo with apt-cache
[05:12] <brenner> Bombu: shouldn't be, biggest issue people have had is the time period for delivery
[05:12] <Bombu> thanks
[05:12] <malin> is midnight commander only for kde?
[05:12] <jebem> can somebody tell a good guide to ubuntu/linux?
[05:12] <Proclivity> maybe a hardware compatibility problem with my second HD?
[05:12] <Proclivity> is that why it isn't seen
[05:13] <thoreauputic> malin: midnight commander is package " mc "
[05:13] <else> thoreauputic, yeah, you're right ;)
[05:13] <reiki_work> Just in case anyone is interested... I have abandoned using spamassassin as a filter in Evolution. It was way too slow. Now using a VERY simple fetchmail->procmail->spamassassin setup with Evolution just using the local mail spool to retrieve. MUCH faster and spamassassin tagging works like a charm.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> malin: and it's a terminal app so you can use it anywhere you like
[05:13] <Bombu> Any idea what knd of processor i'd need? I can run "Puppy" linux on my 586 166mhz.
[05:13] <srijith> reiki, I have abadoned using Evolutionas such :)
[05:13] <_liquidfire> Bombu:
[05:14] <brenner> jebem: rather general area, but... try tldp.org and linux.com for linux, wiki.ubuntu.com for ubuntu
[05:14] <_liquidfire> you should install xfce with that install
[05:14] <_liquidfire> server-mode etc
[05:14] <_liquidfire> then apt-get xfce
[05:14] <_liquidfire> :o
[05:14] <reiki_work> srijith: abandoned Evolution completely? What email client are you using?
[05:14] <malin> i did sudo apt-get install mc and i got a message that mc packet couldn't be found
[05:14] <brenner> jebem: hehe, actually, linux.com's howtos are mirrors of the tldp ones.
[05:14] <srijith> reiki, mutt
[05:14] <thoreauputic> malin: your sources are broken then
[05:14] <reiki_work> srijith: ahhh... ok. :)
[05:15] <malin> thoreauputic, you mean my sources list?
[05:15] <cas> Hi everybody!
[05:15] <jebem> thanks
[05:15] <thoreauputic> malin: yes
[05:15] <thoreauputic> !info mc
[05:15] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[05:15] <Proclivity> *yawn* :] 
[05:15] <GoClick> If I want to run a java program on my Ubuntu 5.04 machine should I install java-common?
[05:15] <brenner> !java
[05:15] <ubotu> java is, like, totally, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:16] <thoreauputic> malin: your adventures with breezy and such have probably resulted in weird and wonderful inconsistencies
[05:16] <cas> I just updated my Hoary to Breezy but I have some problems now :( The biggest problem is that my nic doesn't work anymore. I get a kernel error on boot (my realtek card doesn't support 8139cp, i need 8139too).
[05:16] <GoClick> How can I make it so that my machine caches dns infomration longer we've got 8mbit fiber and world's slowest dns servers :P
[05:17] <brenner> thoreauputic: OOI, are you running breezy?
[05:17] <cas> If i start with my old kernel (2.6.10) I don't get the error but ifconfig won't give me a good ip.
[05:17] <reiki_work> "weird and wonderful inconsistencies" ... hehehe... indeed
[05:17] <Proclivity> oh well... thx anyway - I'll ask elsewhere
[05:17] <thoreauputic> brenner: no, I'm cautious and on dialup ;)
[05:17] <cas> the /etc/network.conf seems fine. What can i do?
[05:18] <brenner> thoreauputic: same here, in both senses. :)
[05:18] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: dialup! No-one should ever be subjected to such evil 8)
[05:18] <mihai> what package do i need so totem movie player could play divx ?
[05:18] <malin> thoreauputic, breezy?
[05:18] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: still, yesterday's occurence made me realise how much I take it for granted. ;-)
[05:18] <cas> GoClick: just use another DNS there are tons out there
[05:18] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: I'm moderately happy in my poverty ;)
[05:18] <brenner> !tell mihai about restricted
[05:18] <apokryphos> malin: w32codecs
[05:18] <Hamman> mihai:w32codecs
[05:18] <mihai> well i have that and divx is not playing
[05:18] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: we're lucky in that it's so darn cheap now around here.
[05:18] <malin> still dunno what r u talking about :-)
[05:19] <mihai> any ideas?
[05:19] <Hamman> mihai: are you running totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[05:19] <Hamman> gstreamer is the default
[05:19] <thoreauputic> malin: it sounds (forgive my directness) as if you dived in without a lifejacket and expected to swim immediately
[05:20] <Hamman> try totem-xine if you haven't already, works better for me
[05:20] <malin> that's pretty possible
[05:20] <mihai> gstreamer haman
[05:20] <thoreauputic> malin: ;)
[05:20] <malin> (directness forgiven, i like directness :-))
[05:21] <Hamman> ok the mark totem-xine for installation in synaptic, an then mark totem-gstreamer for uninstallation
[05:21] <Hamman> then report back
[05:21] <thoreauputic> malin: you know what your nick means in French, I suppose?
[05:21] <brenner> installing totem-xine will remove the gstreamer one automatically
[05:21] <malin> thoreauputic, i know :-)
[05:21] <brenner> thoreauputic: i don't... please indulge :)
[05:21] <dhunter> totem-gstreamer will automagically be uninstalled
[05:22] <malin> thoreauputic, do you know what does my nick mean in scandinavian countries? :>
[05:22] <thoreauputic> brenner: "smart" with aconnotation of...
[05:22] <brenner> lol
[05:22] <thoreauputic> malin: no - enlighten us ! :)
[05:22] <malin> brenner, "malicious" would be the best, i think
[05:22] <malin> thoreauputic, Malin is a popular scandinavian female name :D
[05:23] <brenner> hehe, two rather different translations
[05:23] <thoreauputic> malin: oh
[05:23] <malin> i guess i don't have to tell you i'm a guy :-)
[05:23] <Belutz> malin: i have a friend name Marlin :D
[05:23] <malin> :-)
[05:23] <thoreauputic> brenner: emphasis on the unwritten connotation ;)
[05:24] <twibbler> so after a rather annoying couple of hours found out why I couldn't print through qt from cups ... It was due to the printer name have a '-' in... does anybody now how to easily change a printer name ?.
[05:24] <brenner> thoreauputic: *nod* still ... the first one is usually said in a cheeky way, the second isn't.
[05:25] <thoreauputic> brenner: true
[05:25] <kumaran> can some one give clues on retaining vnc client sessions which got kicked out unexpectedly
[05:26] <HUP10> any suggestions on a text-based IRC client?
[05:26] <malin> i got four urls in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:26] <dhunter> BitchX
[05:26] <brenner> HUP10: irssi
[05:27] <HUP10> I've tried to apt-get both of those, and no joy
[05:27] <mike998> HUP10 try bitchx
[05:27] <malin> http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:27] <thoreauputic> !start an IRC client war
[05:27] <ubotu> irssi is better than konversation !
[05:27] <kumaran> brenner: do you have any clues on how to regain vnc client session which got kicked out
[05:27] <malin> should i add any url?
[05:28] <brenner> kumaran: eek, no sorry.
[05:28] <srijith> !ubotu
[05:28] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:28] <mike998> thoreauputic : I'd join in but I don't know much about them
[05:28] <brenner> kumaran: is there a #vnc channel?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> mike998: that never stops anyone else ;-)
[05:28] <brenner> malin: a valid list can be found here:
[05:28] <HUP10> which file do I put those apt servers in?
[05:28] <brenner> !repos
[05:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:29] <brenner> malin: assuming you're running hoary
[05:29] <malin> thanks brenner
[05:29] <chrismy_> lamp
[05:29] <mike998> thoreauputic: It's like starting a war about window managers, editors, religion, politics or any of those other fun subjects
[05:29] <srijith> anyone knows where to get the code for factoids like ubotu
[05:29] <thoreauputic> mike998: indeed :)
[05:30] <malin> brenner, yeah, i got 5.04
[05:30] <apokryphos> srijith: ubotu is a bot; he has many factoids
[05:30] <thoreauputic> !list
[05:30] <ubotu> hmm... list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:30] <brenner> malin: good to go then
[05:30] <thoreauputic> srijith: ^^^^
[05:31] <Crube> Anyone have an idea why my disk space stays the same even when i delete files -.-
[05:31] <Blissex> Crube: yes.
[05:31] <mjr> Crube, if you have the files open in some process, they're not actually deleted when you unlink them
[05:31] <srijith> apokryphos, any idea where to get the source code/script for the bot?
[05:32] <thoreauputic> !info blootbot
[05:32] <ubotu> blootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.1.0-5.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 235 kB, Installed size: 936 kB
[05:32] <EasterSunshine> installing blootbot almost borked my system
[05:32] <apokryphos> srijith: he's a blootbot; you can get him from apt.
[05:32] <brenner> EasterSunshine: almost?
[05:33] <srijith> apokryphos, oh ok.. thanks
[05:33] <andreas__> "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" what does this mean?
[05:33] <apokryphos> written in perl though, isn't he? :S
[05:33] <Ng> which means you can also hack him so he doesn't sound so stupid ;)
[05:33] <apokryphos> andreas__: libx11-dev
[05:33] <EasterSunshine> brenner: why it borked yours completely?
[05:33] <thoreauputic> Ng: party pooper ! ;-)
[05:33] <andreas__> k
[05:34] <Ng> thoreauputic: maybe, but it just looks dumb to me when it says "foo is like totally bar"
[05:34] <apokryphos> andreas__: it just means that you don't have the X includes; you can get them by installing that package.
[05:34] <apokryphos> Ng: ok, so he's a rebellious-teenager-bot :P
[05:34] <brenner> EasterSunshine: hehe, no. nvm, just my ramblings.
[05:34] <apokryphos> time to grow
[05:34] <thoreauputic> Ng: like, you are totally 4w3som3 , man... ;-)
[05:35] <sharmastreet> hello everyone
[05:35] <malin> ok, a brand new sources list was what i needed
[05:35] <sharmastreet> hi malin how are you
[05:35] <apokryphos> hi sharmastreet
[05:35] <malin> me? cool
[05:35] <sharmastreet> hi apokryphos
[05:36] <malin> mc installed
[05:36] <apokryphos> malin: yuck :P
[05:36] <malin> mc roxxor
[05:36] <malin> but it hasn't got polish characters
[05:36] <mihai> Hamman, ok now it works, but no sound on totem
[05:36] <apokryphos> l337h4xx0r: w00t
[05:37] <guupsta> 1337 5k1ll5
[05:37] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: :D
[05:37] <sharmastreet> hey has anyone seen that film gone with the wind
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> sharmastreet,  Hmm years ago.
[05:37] <apokryphos> Old Classic
[05:37] <thoreauputic> sharmastreet: nah, it was a total box office flop - no-one saw it ;)
[05:38] <steve_> sharma loves it in the arse
[05:38] <apokryphos> :/
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> let me guess  ...  Steven Speilburg  is remaking it
[05:38] <sharmastreet> oh my god how rude
[05:38] <andreas__> Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (library qt-mt) not found <--- what should I install?
[05:38] <steve_> she loves eating spunk
[05:38] <sharmastreet> someone tell him to go
[05:38] <mihai> ok anybody to help, i have no sound in totem-xine, i have w32codecs
[05:38] <thoreauputic> steve_: ops any minute now...
[05:38] <steve_> u love my spunk sharma
[05:38] <apokryphos> andreas__: libqt3-mt-dev
[05:39] <brenner> andreas__: what are you installing?
[05:39] <thoreauputic> !ops
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[05:39] <sharmastreet> can someone tell that rude man to go
[05:39] <apokryphos> steve_: do be quiet
[05:39] <brenner> mihai: installed totem-xine?
[05:39] <mihai> yep
[05:39] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: great factoid :P
[05:39] <brenner> lol
[05:39] <Lefungus> hello
[05:39] <andreas__> brenner, valknut
[05:39] <sharmastreet> thanks apokryphos
[05:39] <poe-t> thanks a lot
[05:39] <thoreauputic> lee84: nice try but the logs betray you
[05:39] <spunk> ive spunked
[05:39] <poe-t> pitti, thanks a lot..
[05:39] <Lefungus> what do I need to download to get latest development version of ubuntu ?
[05:39] <Kokoro> thoreauputic: Thanks for the tip I now have the original Wing Commander Privateer working on dosbox
[05:39] <kumaran> hi
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Kokoro: cool :)
[05:40] <mihai> wtf ubuntu doesn't even have gcc
[05:40] <XandriX> thoreauputic, http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTEyNDgzNzA3MkhqUkdBMzJwNFVfMV8xX2wuanBn im not sure thats he best way to cool them
[05:40] <brenner> mihai: install build-essential
[05:40] <thoreauputic> !build
[05:40] <ubotu> [build]  sudo apt-get install build-essential, or use the synaptic package manager to install the build-essential package: or ask me about synaptic
[05:40] <Ng> mihai: of course it does
[05:40] <spunk> im just spunked again
[05:40] <mihai> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[05:40] <mihai> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:40] <kumaran> brenner: any idea on how to enable assistive technology
[05:40] <carajean> hey guys i noticed ubuntu came with a bit torrent thingy is there a better one?
[05:40] <thoreauputic> mihai: can you read? at all?
[05:40] <apokryphos> carajean: Azureus, KTorrent
[05:40] <spunk> FUCK OFF
[05:40] <brenner> kumaran: probably not, seeing as i don't know what it is :)
[05:40] <sharmastreet> this chat line is boring
[05:41] <kaha> carajean: I like bittornado
[05:41] <brenner> kumaran: checked the wiki & forum?
[05:41] <mihai> thoreauputic, no i cannot read
[05:41] <kumaran> brenner: thanks
[05:41] <sharmastreet> so do i
[05:41] <Ng> sharmastreet: spunk: lee84: how about all one of you shut up and go away?
[05:41] <apokryphos> sharmastreet: it's for Ubuntu :)
[05:41] <spunk> IM NOT BORING LET ME SPUNK IN U
[05:41] <carajean> is that for linux kaha?
[05:41] <apokryphos> spunk: What are you doing?
[05:41] <spunk> SPUNK SPUNK SPUNK
[05:41] <Ng> apokryphos: being a stupid 15 year old
[05:41] <sharmastreet> fuckyoung
[05:41] <kaha> carajean: yes. In fact, it's an Ubuntu package.  :)
[05:41] <spunk> I LOVE SPUNKING
[05:41] <Ng> apokryphos: they're all on the same host
[05:41] <sharmastreet> pissoff ng
[05:41] <apokryphos> spunk: maybe we could get you a medal for your galiant perfomance in here
[05:41] <kumaran> brenner: i see this in system ->preferences->assistive technology
[05:41] <kumaran> in my ubuntu
[05:41] <kumaran> i tried to enable the check box
[05:42] <apokryphos> srijith: hopefully an OP will *act*
[05:42] <kumaran> but no able to proceed further
[05:42] <Ng> sharmastreet: you have the same hostname as spunk and lee84, which means you are in the same house or on the same access point, if you are a different person, you should go and beat the shit out of whoever the tool is
[05:42] <srijith> apokryphos, dont think there is anyone "alive" right now
[05:42] <apokryphos> kaha: seems likely :P
[05:42] <kumaran> can any one tell me how to enable and use assistive technology support in ubuntu
[05:42] <spunk> IM THE TOOL
[05:42] <brenner> kumaran: might need to install the packages it recommends in that tip at the bottom of the box
[05:42] <spunk> WOOWHOOOOOOO
[05:42] <Ng> spunk: we can see that
[05:42] <tristanmike> hey
[05:42] <sharmastreet> ng is your name sherlock holmes in disguise
[05:43] <spunk> SEE WOT
[05:43] <spunk> NG
[05:43] <Ng> hehe, teenagers are so funny ;)
[05:43] <sharmastreet> ng is a twat
[05:43] <malin> My /mnt/ntfs directory has 500 rights now, so i can't access it unless i'm a root. Even if i'm a root i can't change the rights. Should i mount that disc in another way to be able to read that disc??
[05:43] <apokryphos> sharmastreet: please don't flame
[05:43] <kumaran> thanks brenner. i will try that now
[05:43] <sharmastreet> why talk to me than prick
[05:43] <spunk> IM FUCKIN 32 U BORING BASTARDS
[05:43] <kumaran> believe me i am a newbie to linux
[05:43] <Ng> spunk: then you must be some kind of "special" person
[05:43] <apokryphos> !ops
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[05:43] <tristanmike> watch the language
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> 32 - i though your IQ was about that range.
[05:44] <Ng> spunk: what kind of 32 year old wastes their time talking about spunk on the internet?
[05:44] <thoreauputic> where the heck are the ops? jdub?
[05:44] <spunk> I AM IVE SPUNKED ON YOUR PILLOW
[05:44] <Ng> see
[05:44] <Ng> I say no older than 14 ;)
[05:44] <spunk> WRONG
[05:44] <spunk> 21
[05:44] <spunk> LOL
[05:44] <tristanmike> Take the off-topic conversation elsewhere
[05:44] <NoUse> Ng insult to 14 year olds everywhere
[05:44] <sharmastreet> NG what sort of name is that
[05:44] <spunk> IM AT WORK I THOUGHT IT WUD BE FUNNY CUMIN IN HERE
[05:44] <srijith> Seveas, There u are!!!!!!!
[05:44] <srijith> help!
[05:45] <srijith>  :)
[05:45] <CarinArr> hey does anyone know an application that might be able to read copy protected cds?
[05:45] <tristanmike> Seveas, save us
[05:45] <apokryphos> woo
[05:45] <Ng> spunk: that takes us back to "special" then ;)
[05:45] <CarinArr> i.e. music cds
[05:45] <thoreauputic> Seveas: action required, please
[05:45] <srijith> Seveas, kick spunk please
[05:45] <apokryphos> Seveas: please ban/kick spunk lee84
[05:45] <apokryphos> heh
[05:45] <tristanmike> Seveas, spunk is being a punk
[05:45] <Ng> Seveas: and sharmastreet
[05:45] <sharmastreet> get lost spunk
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> CarinArr,  hmm -  what cd exactly? most of the music copy protections ive heard of are so trivial to get around - a fast google search should get ya some info.
[05:45] <spunk> SHARMA LOVES ANAL
[05:46] <CarinArr> kaiser chiefs - employment
[05:46] <kaha> kewl
[05:46] <carajean> ok for some reason guys the apt-get isnt working for the flashplayer plugin can someone help me do it manually?
[05:47] <Seveas> too bad it's dialup
[05:47] <brenner> carajean: probably need to enable multiverse
[05:47] <srijith> thanks Seveas
[05:47] <Seveas> have to set a broad ban
[05:47] <tristanmike> thanx Seveas, good work
[05:47] <Ng> Seveas: that's a really terrible ban dude
[05:47] <Zero_Ice> got a quickie question about the ubuntu iso file...
[05:47] <Ng> seriously, that's thousands and thousands of people
[05:47] <Seveas> i know
[05:48] <Zero_Ice> Do i have to burn it to a cd to install or can i just extract the file in the seperate partition and install it from there?
[05:48] <apokryphos> Ng: temporary, of course.
[05:48] <kaha> Could someone plz explain why I have no /dev/sequencer? Is this normal, or am I missing a package?
[05:48] <Ng> btopenworld is *every* BT dialup and ADSL user in the country
[05:48] <Seveas> i'll make it narrower in an hour
[05:48] <Seveas> what was wrong with lee84 ?
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Seveas: same stuff, different nicks
[05:49] <Seveas> gone and banned
[05:49] <apokryphos> Seveas: [16:38]  <steve_> u love my spunk sharma
[05:49] <Ng> lee84 was just the same person
[05:49] <apokryphos> [16:39]  *** steve_ is now known as lee84.
[05:49] <bonggnu> hi, i have  VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60), the systems works, but doesnot sound to speaker
[05:49] <kebanting> hai..guys
[05:49] <apokryphos> hi :)
[05:49] <Belutz> hai
[05:49] <kaha> hai
[05:50] <bonggnu> i checked audio levels, all up but not sound
[05:50] <brenner> bonggnu: not even system sounds?
[05:50] <bonggnu> brenner, not sound
[05:50] <carajean> brenner how do i set to multivers?
[05:50] <Sypder_Man> If anyone has the knowledge....can they help me in #cedega
[05:51] <brenner> !tell carajean about repos
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Sypder_Man,  what knowledege? i missed somthing. :P
[05:51] <Belutz> kebanting: what part of indonesia do you live in?
[05:51] <Sypder_Man> :P
[05:51] <carajean> oohh those i did those alreay
[05:51] <brenner> bonggnu: ?
[05:51] <bonggnu> brenner, what
[05:51] <kebanting> yup... belutz
[05:51] <srijith> Seveas, do stick around for some time incase he comes back :)
[05:51] <kebanting> i from indonesia
[05:51] <Belutz> kebanting: in jakarta?
[05:51] <kebanting> how  about y..?belutz
[05:51] <kebanting> yup....
[05:51] <AkisOle> hello
[05:51] <carajean> brenner i already did the repos i know that much
[05:51] <Belutz> kebanting: i'm from indonesia too :p
[05:52] <AkisOle> Hello... i've succesfyllu installed Greek Microsoft office in crossover platform after a lot of trying i figured oute that the correct command to have greek encoding is env LC_CTYPE=el_GR.ISO-8859-7 /opt/cxoffice/bin/wine --cx-app winword. The problem is that when i write a document in greek it does not have the write encoding... I write something like chinese...
[05:52] <brenner> bonggnu: not even system sounds?
[05:52] <Seveas> srijith, he can't, I just changed the ban to only dialup users
[05:52] <kebanting> oooo yaaa... where .. are u .. live
[05:52] <bonggnu> not even system sounds
[05:52] <Belutz> now, i'm in tangerang
[05:52] <kebanting> ooo i c..
[05:53] <Seveas> thoreauputic, ?
[05:53] <brenner> carajean: you should have mozilla-mplayer available then
[05:53] <carajean> ok let me check them again maybe i typed something wrong
[05:53] <brenner> !tell bonggnu about sound
[05:53] <thoreauputic> Seveas: sorry?
[05:53] <brenner> bonggnu: maybe look at that for a start
[05:53] <Seveas> can I pm you for a second?
[05:53] <kaha> Question: is it normal to have no /dev/sequencer?
[05:53] <bonggnu> thanks
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Seveas: did you ping me?
[05:54] <Seveas> not as in /ping, but I shouted your name in i high-ptch voice :)
[05:54] <kebanting> anyone try remastring ubntu for special case .. i mean add some package in postinstall or remove some packaged from pool/
[05:54] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ah sorry was sfk
[05:54] <Hamman> kaha: I had to configure it when I played around with rosegarden a couple of weeks vack
[05:54] <thoreauputic> *afk
[05:54] <Seveas> thoreauputic, can I pm you for a second?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> sure
[05:55] <kaha> Hamman: what exactly did you configure?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> Seveas: sure
[05:55] <kebanting> belutz: udah pernah coba e17 blom...
[05:56] <kaha> Hamman: I mean, what would be the correct file to edit?
[05:57] <brenner> AkisOle: played around with word's prefereneces?
[05:58] <AkisOle> brenner, no... i'l try.. but i think there is nothing usefull there... :(
[05:58] <Belutz> kebanting: not yet...
[05:59] <kebanting> belutz: it's ok..my man ..
[05:59] <Belutz> kebanting: :)
[05:59] <n0ha> hello
[05:59] <chicken-man> Hi every one
[05:59] <thoreauputic> good night all :)
[05:59] <kebanting> belutz: a' u working ..?
[05:59] <Belutz> nite thoreauputic
[05:59] <bonggnu> brenner, my sound card is update, but my problem is the output of the sound, i open a media player, and play an mp3, the apps shows like "sounds" , but the sound is not heared, i checked alsamixer, alsamixergui, and all the levels are up and on
[06:00] <Belutz> kebanting: just graduated
[06:00] <n0ha> i'm getting 500 internal server error when trying to apt-get install package
[06:00] <Belutz> kebanting: brb, want to smoke for a while :D
[06:00] <n0ha> can someone help me plz?
[06:00] <kebanting> belutz: oo .. ic
[06:00] <kebanting> belutz: interesting for woking ..?
[06:00] <brenner> bonggnu: yes, but if you're not even getting system sounds, you might need to do something more...
[06:01] <chicken-man> n0ha, check the sources.list file in /etc/apt
[06:01] <brenner> bonggnu: what player app you using?
[06:01] <bonggnu> beep media player, amarok, xmms
[06:01] <bonggnu> even mpg123 in console
[06:01] <bonggnu> aplay
[06:01] <brenner> bonggnu: and you've changed the output plugin in bmp/xmms?
[06:01] <bonggnu> yup
[06:02] <n0ha> chicken-man: when i do apt-get update, everything goes fine
[06:02] <n0ha> i have checked the sources.list according to the ubuntu guide
[06:02] <brenner> bonggnu: *nod* then something bigger is up.....try pinging crimsun when he's active.  he's the sound guru in here
[06:02] <chicken-man> n0ha, hmmmm
[06:02] <chicken-man> n0ha, try  sudo aptitude  and see if that works
[06:02] <carajean> ok brenner could u send me that link again
[06:02] <ubuntu> you guys like this ubuntu shit
[06:02] <brenner> !repos
[06:02] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:02] <kaha> is there an FAQ pertaining to MIDI playback, sequencing? Trying to get a software synthesizer to work, but I get no sound. All other sound is okay.
[06:03] <phantom_> I just downloaded a skin for BEEP Media Player.. how do I install the zip file????
[06:03] <cosmic> hai
[06:03] <kebanting> chicken-man: what the function of aptitude command line .
[06:03] <brenner> phantom_: copy it to ~/.bmp/Skins
[06:03] <kaha> phantom: unpack it in ~/.bmp/skins/
[06:03] <phantom_> as a zip???
[06:03] <kebanting> comic: hai
[06:03] <brenner> carajean: that one?
[06:03] <cosmic> #pekanbaru
[06:04] <kebanting> cosmic: dari pekan baru ya
[06:04] <brenner> phantom_: yes, it can handle zip archives.... ~/.bmp/Skins
[06:04] <chicken-man> kebanting, ?
[06:04] <bonggnu> hi, i changed the output in xmms and works
[06:04] <n0ha> chicken-man: i was trying it with kynaptic, and the result was the same
[06:04] <brenner> lol
[06:04] <bonggnu> :D
[06:04] <brenner> bonggnu: i thought it didn't work?
[06:04] <chicken-man> n0ha, :-/
[06:04] <brenner> bonggnu: i thought you did change it?
[06:05] <phantom_> I cannot cd into .bmp
[06:05] <chicken-man> n0ha, clear the cache
[06:05] <bonggnu> yes
[06:05] <phantom_> sory i can
[06:05] <brenner> phantom_: ~/.bmp
[06:05] <phantom_> thanks
[06:05] <brenner> :)
[06:05] <n0ha> chicken-man: how can i do that?
[06:05] <malin> missed me? :D
[06:05] <brenner> phantom_: ~ is your home directory ... shorthand for /home/username
[06:06] <Belutz> kebanting: do you work?
[06:06] <kaha> phantom_: you can put winamp skins in there too, and it'll use them.  :)
[06:06] <kebanting> chicken-man: when i use aptitude command line .. i mean
[06:06] <apokryphos> Seveas: oh, by the way, are you the maintainer of the paste.ubuntulinux.nl? Just a suggestion: I think it would be cool to have highlighting options for what's pasted
[06:06] <kebanting> belut: yup
[06:06] <brenner> phantom_: winamp classic only :)
[06:06] <brenner> kaha: any good skins?
[06:06] <Belutz> kebanting: where do u work?
[06:06] <chicken-man> n0ha, apt-cache dump  i think
[06:07] <matrix79> does the ubuntu support the powerpc G3 architecture?
[06:07] <kebanting> belut: my team need some pepole for linux migration
[06:07] <kaha> brenner: LOTS of em. I prefer Nucleo Nlog
[06:07] <GoClick> I added the horay-extras reposatory and looked for j2se I also tried sun- and no avail.
[06:07] <brenner> matrix79: *nod* there's a powerpc iso iirc
[06:07] <kebanting> belutz: i working at vistek
[06:07] <kaha> But yeah, just the "classic" skins work right
[06:07] <n0ha> chicken-man: ok, i tried apt-get clean, and i get this when trying to apt-get install mozilla-firefox: 500 Internal Server Error [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> GoClick, have you enabled multiverse ?
[06:07] <brenner> kaha: i like WdotAmp
[06:07] <Belutz> kebanting: hmmm, interested :D does your company has vacancies? :D
[06:08] <matrix79> brenner: website only saws G4 and G5.
[06:08] <malin> is there a shortcut that launches the terminal?
[06:08] <chicken-man> n0ha, apt-get update
[06:08] <malin> [keyboard shortcut] 
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> malin, you can make your own short cut
[06:08] <brenner> matrix79: oh, not sure then sorry. :)
[06:08] <malin> oh, do i?
[06:08] <malin> cool :-)
[06:08] <kebanting> belutz: send me mail .. with cv n app latters...
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> right click on the panel and make a short cut :P
[06:08] <benji> Hi, I had a question.  I don't seem to have access to the latest depository with apt.  My source is... deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[06:08] <brenner> wickedpuppy: why not bind it to a key?
[06:08] <Seveas> apokryphos, what do you mean?
[06:08] <brenner> e.g. the windows start key :)
[06:08] <Belutz> kebanting: but i'm no expert :)
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> brenner, why not ? ctrl-alt-f1
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> :P
[06:09] <Seveas> benji: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:09] <Seveas> benji: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:09] <benji> shows that gnome with ubunty hoary is 2.10...and I see 2.8 with apt-get
[06:09] <brenner> wickedpuppy: eww. :)
[06:09] <benji> thanks seveas, i'll check it out
[06:09] <apokryphos> Seveas: i.e. ww.pastebin.com -- choice of different highlighting. Bash/python etc. Though I understand the majority of the time it will be bash
[06:09] <kebanting> belutz: no worry man
[06:09] <kaha> okay, I'm now assuming that nobody out there has a /dev/sequencer.  :P
[06:09] <carajean> yeah brenner that was the one even though goin through the synaptic thing did work
[06:09] <matrix79> ummm - trivial question - how do you start-up ubuntu on a mac os 8 - I put the cd in and on boot up it said rebuilding desktop image then nothing happened
[06:09] <Seveas> apokryphos, yeah, mine is based on pastebin.com, but he never released the highlighting code
[06:09] <kebanting> belutz: try ..n pray :D
[06:10] <apokryphos> Seveas: that's nice of him. :/
[06:10] <Seveas> and I'm too busy to implement it myself (unless it's some sort of pear class)
[06:10] <Belutz> kebanting: where's vistek office?
[06:10] <apokryphos> Seveas: no, I wouldn't bother; if it was available then it would be a good idea; otherwise -- not worth the hassle.
[06:11] <kebanting> belutz, gatot subroto adhi graha building
[06:11] <Seveas> I'm looking at pear now
[06:11] <Seveas> expect the 'show diff' function soon :)
[06:11] <matrix79> how do you start-up ubuntu on a mac os 8 - I put the cd in and on boot up it said rebuilding desktop image then nothing happened - anyone have any ideas?
[06:11] <GoClick> wickedpuppy I think I have
[06:11] <kebanting> belutz: do u ever know.. ?
[06:11] <Belutz> kebanting: ic, and where should i send the email?
[06:11] <carajean> ok brenner those sources examples i can just copy and paste and they will work?  because some of the stuff is commented out and i dont know what to make work and what not to???
[06:12] <mihai> HAHA firefox got broken !
[06:12] <jono> anyone run xampp here?
[06:12] <Belutz> kebanting: hmm... never heard of it hehehe
[06:12] <benji> Is Ubuntu 5.04 live now?
[06:12] <mihai> i cannot see any menu text, it's just lines
[06:12] <brenner> carajean: iirc, that will give you main, universe and multiverse
[06:12] <GoClick> How do I enable multiverse?
[06:12] <kebanting> belutz: ASAP man, do heard survayor indnesia... ?
[06:12] <benji> apt-get only has 2.8.0 of gnome...says that ubuntu 5.04 has 2.10
[06:12] <GoClick> !multiverse
[06:12] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[06:12] <GoClick> !repositories
[06:12] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:13] <Belutz> kebanting: yes, i see the big word on top of a building :D
[06:13] <carajean> ok i must be really special cause in the examples i dont see iirc?
[06:13] <brenner> ubotu: forget repositories
[06:13] <ubotu> brenner: i forgot repositories
[06:13] <brenner> ubotu: repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:13] <ubotu> okay, brenner
[06:13] <kebanting> belutz: good viewer .. hehhehe ..
[06:13] <zarcx> do you guys think it is worth it to run ubuntu on a powerbook or i better buy a x86 laptop
[06:13] <zarcx> ?
[06:14] <matrix79> how do you start-up ubuntu on a mac os 8 - I put the cd in and on boot up it said rebuilding desktop image then nothing happened - anyone have any ideas
[06:14] <deFrysk> zarcx, get both
[06:14] <fl> matrix79, are you talking about a old world machine?
[06:14] <zarcx> deFrysk: why is that?
[06:14] <Belutz> kebanting: what's the email address?
[06:14] <deFrysk> zarcx, was jusk kidding ;)
[06:14] <matrix79> fl: what makes something an old world machine?
[06:15] <GoClick> I added the horay-extras reposatory and looked for j2se I also tried sun- and no avail.
[06:15] <carajean> Seveas is ur example of sources good to use? will that let me download flashplayer?
[06:15] <brenner> !java
[06:15] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:15] <kebanting> belutz: ridho@e-visitek.com ..
[06:15] <brenner> GoClick: see ubotu's link
[06:15] <Belutz> kebanting: ok :)
[06:15] <GoClick> I did
[06:15] <Sypder_Man> dennis@spartan:~$ xrandr
[06:15] <Sypder_Man> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:15] <Sypder_Man> :O
[06:15] <GoClick> I added the extras and I have dissabled sources enabled and I've read that link
[06:15] <fl> matrix79, what is the machine's name/type you want to install ubuntu on? (like e.g. "Powerbook G3 Series)
[06:15] <kebanting> belutz: don't forget okey.. i'm waiting u mail....
[06:15] <Sypder_Man> Can someone tell me where to get extention Randr for Xserver
[06:16] <Belutz> kebanting: ok, maybe i'll send it tommorow
[06:16] <brenner> GoClick: and then?
[06:16] <kaha> has ANYONE had any luck getting a synthesizer (namely ZynAddSubFX) to run on their Ubuntu box? I'm getting no sound.
[06:16] <GoClick> I looked for sun- and j2re and the full name and I get no results
[06:16] <matrix79> fl: it is just a G3 from like 6 yrs ago with mac os 8
[06:16] <fl> matrix79, one of the beige tower systems?
[06:16] <brenner> GoClick: did you reload in synaptic?
[06:16] <Seveas> carajean, yes it will
[06:17] <GoClick> yes I did
[06:17] <Rockett18> look for j2sdk
[06:17] <kebanting> belutz: ok, .. do ever u try remastering ubuntu....
[06:17] <carajean> thanks Seveas
[06:17] <brenner> Rockett18: he wants the re :-/
[06:17] <Belutz> kebanting: not yet... u mean remastering a live cd right?
[06:17] <GoClick> j2 doesn't find anything
[06:17] <matrix79> fl: ummm...it is green and clear colored
[06:17] <GoClick> Well not java
[06:18] <kebanting> belutz: nop .. remastering installed cd
[06:18] <Belutz> kebanting: hmmm no...
[06:18] <Belutz> kebanting: so you need a custom install cd ?
[06:19] <kebanting> belutz: i've being tried but lot of errrors ..
[06:19] <kebanting> belutz: may be .. custom install..
[06:19] <Belutz> kebanting: why don't just install like usual, but create a post install script?
[06:19] <kebanting> belutz: what .. can i do.. for custom cd install
[06:19] <benji> Since I'm usinv hoary main restricted as my repository, I should have the hoary 5.04 packages available to me, right?
[06:19] <matrix79> fl: here is a pic - http://www.everymac.com/images/cpu_pictures/apple_powermac_g3bondi.jpg
[06:19] <luke> hello all.  I'm 100% noob and having troube with usb devices.  I have a generic Memory Stick reader and a Netgear WLAN adaptor..  They get listed in device manager but neither are working.  Any suggections?
[06:19] <fl> matrix79, ok. that's actually better then beige in more than one way :-) let me check something...
[06:20] <matrix79> ok
[06:20] <luke> BTW I am on 5.04
[06:20] <Belutz> kebanting: hmm i have no idea..
[06:20] <brenner> GoClick: only thing i can think of is that hoar-extrashasn't been enabled somehow ... post your sources.list to a pastebin
[06:20] <Belutz> Seveas: is it possible to create a custom install cd for ubuntu?
[06:20] <phantom_> how do I get flash installed on firefox???
[06:20] <GoClick> brenner where is that file and which pasebin would you like?
[06:21] <brenner> GoClick: /etc/apt/sources.list , pastebin in topic is fine
[06:21] <apokryphos> phantom_: install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:21] <mihai> ok i had like 12 tabs open in firefox, it suddenly crashed (just disappeared) and now i cannot see webpage, or the url i write, or any text in the menus !
[06:21] <Belutz> phantom_: sudo apt-get flashplayer-mozilla
[06:21] <phantom_> thanks people
[06:21] <Belutz> phantom_: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:22] <srijith> crap.. how many updates are needed for pcre??!!!
[06:22] <kaha> Firefox crashes alot on me when I try to download files
[06:22] <Belutz> hmmm, i never had problem with my firefox
[06:22] <mihai> yeah, i was trying to download a file and it crashed
[06:22] <Crube> Mine's working fine.
[06:22] <fl> matrix79, ok, that's a "bondi blue" or rather "blue and white" G3
[06:22] <kebanting> me too
[06:22] <phantom_> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[06:22] <Xenguy> kaha: try 'wget' with the '-c' option :-)
[06:22] <luke> hello all.  I'm 100% noob and having troube with usb devices.  I have a generic Memory Stick reader and a Netgear WLAN adaptor..  They get listed in device manager but neither are working.  Any suggections?
[06:22] <apokryphos> mihai: link?
[06:23] <mihai> link to what ?
[06:23] <phantom_> cant find package
[06:23] <kaha> Yeah, it's weird. Pics, even. The vanilla firefox from moz org doesn't do that.
[06:23] <apokryphos> mihai: the file you tried to download
[06:23] <matrix79> so: fl how do we get the ubuntu os to fire up
[06:23] <GoClick> brenner you can go look at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1578
[06:23] <apokryphos> phantom_: you will need to enable the Multiverse repository
[06:23] <kaha> Xenguy: I usually do that.  :)
[06:23] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell phantom_ about repos
[06:23] <Belutz> phantom_: you have to enable the multiverse/universe repo
[06:23] <fl> matrix79, this one has "Open Firmware", which you can access at boot with apple+alt+o+f
[06:23] <mihai> i have no clue.. i can't see anything in firefox now
[06:23] <Xenguy> kaha: ah good - some people don't know about wget goodness
[06:23] <fl> matrix79, ok, that means that you should be using the "yaboot" boot manager
[06:23] <LoveBug356> don't use backports for firefox or any of his extensions, if you do so you have an unstable program
[06:23] <mihai> it doesn't show up pages anymore, and the text in the menus is gone
[06:23] <benji> Since I'm usinv hoary main restricted as my repository, I should have the hoary 5.04 packages available to me, right?
[06:24] <fl> matrix79, and, if you put the CD in, and press and hold "c" during the boot, your machine should start from the Ubuntu CD
[06:24] <bonggnu> i have troubles to record a cdr with cdrecord, only works with cdrdao
[06:24] <matrix79> so fl: I reboot the machine and hit apple+alt+o+f
[06:24] <matrix79> ok
[06:24] <fl> matrix79, sorry, type too slow.
[06:24] <mihai> (Gecko:6680): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_cairo_show_glyph_string: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed
[06:24] <mihai> what's this ?
[06:25] <fl> matrix79, put in the Ubuntu CD, and press and hold "c" during the boot,  your machine should start from the Ubuntu CD
[06:25] <kebanting> belutz: i'm so sleep.... n i'm going to my bed ...
[06:25] <matrix79> ok - testing now
[06:25] <Belutz> kebanting: ok man... have a nice rest
[06:25] <GoClick> brenner ?
[06:25] <kebanting> belutz: nice to meet u ..:D
[06:25] <chicken-man> what do i use so i can start a telnet server ?
[06:25] <benji> use openssh
[06:25] <benji> instead of telnet
[06:25] <benji> if you can
[06:25] <GoClick> chicken-man telnet is unsafe
[06:25] <Belutz> kebanting: nice to meet u too :)
[06:25] <Xenguy> chicken-man: ssh :p
[06:25] <chicken-man> i don't like SSH
[06:25] <kaha> chicken-man: telnetd. But use ssh
[06:26] <GoClick> Why don't you like it?
[06:26] <brenner> GoClick: dunno, link seems ok.  i'm tempted to tell you to just replace it with this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (uncomment extras)
[06:26] <Xenguy> chicken-man: hah
[06:26] <benji> Why don't you like ssh? :)
[06:26] <srijith> chicken-man, wow! why?
[06:26] <chicken-man> i can't get telnetd to work
[06:26] <GoClick> brenner ok I'll give that a shot
[06:26] <brenner> GoClick: also, don't know why you had a warty repo there
[06:26] <kaha> chicken-man: ya prolly don't have it installed
[06:26] <chicken-man> i do
[06:26] <kaha> hrm
[06:26] <GoClick> I don't know either
[06:26] <brenner> hehe
[06:27] <chicken-man> :-/
[06:27] <benji> brenner, I'm using that same sources.list...that is where the hoary 5.04 packages are right?
[06:27] <Xenguy> chicken-man: you'll be cracked in no time - weeeee
[06:27] <brenner> afaik
[06:27] <benji> I don't :-/
[06:27] <kaha> chicken-man: telnetd is insecure
[06:27] <chicken-man> i know that
[06:27] <benji> ie..I have access to gnome 2.8.0
[06:27] <benji> instead of 2.10
[06:27] <srijith> chicken-man, cant start it from init.d?
[06:28] <brenner> benji: what package?
[06:28] <malin> hm
[06:28] <chicken-man> i tryed invoke-rc.d telnetd start  but that don't work
[06:28] <benji> gnome-common
[06:28] <Belutz> kebanting: wow, Bank Indonesia is your client??
[06:28] <brenner> Xenguy: that was horrible. ;)
[06:28] <kaha> chicken-man: /etc/init.d/telnetd start
[06:28] <Xenguy> brenner: ;-)
[06:29] <brenner> benji: if it's any consolation, i'm getting 2.8 here too
[06:29] <benji> ahh okay
[06:29] <benji> weird
[06:29] <srijith> chicken-man, /etc/init.d/telnetd start ?
[06:29] <benji> I guess they didn't put up 5.04 in the repository yet?
[06:29] <carajean> i think the flashplayer messed up firefox
[06:29] <carajean> any site that had flash wont load and i have to create a new profile everytime
[06:29] <chicken-man> srijith, that don't work
[06:29] <GoClick> brenner I changed it with your file and got an error http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1580
[06:29] <brenner> those *are* the 5.04 repos ...
[06:30] <benji> hmm
[06:30] <srijith> chicken-man, what does it say?
[06:30] <benji> so why is gnome 2.8? :)
[06:30] <chicken-man> srijith, file or command not found
[06:30] <malin> I tried to open an mp3 in rhythmbox and it told me that i don't have an mp3 plugin installed. Where can i find such plugin?
[06:30] <mihai> can anybody join #kde ?
[06:30] <brenner> GoClick: where'd you get the error?
[06:30] <chicken-man> srijith, some thing like that
[06:30] <kaha> chicken-man: then you don't have it installed
[06:30] <srijith> chicken-man, and what about "which telnetd"?
[06:30] <chicken-man> srijith, i do
[06:30] <brenner> !tell malin about restricted
[06:30] <chicken-man> srijith, ahhh
[06:31] <benji> "In Hoary, qwe have GNOME 2.10.1"
[06:31] <benji> we*
[06:31] <GoClick> After I restarted Synaptic but then I closed it and restarted it again and I didn't get it, however it still can't find any packages with j2re in the name
[06:31] <brenner> mihai: what for?  #kubuntu might be useful
[06:31] <carajean> ok guys is there another browser i can use cause firfox is foobared
[06:31] <benji> !tell benji about restricted
[06:31] <mihai> so i can ask kde related questions, but not specifically ubuntu
[06:31] <chicken-man> srijith, hmmm telnetd works
[06:31] <brenner> GoClick: reloaded?
[06:31] <malin> thanks brenner
[06:31] <chicken-man> srijith, but i cannot telnet to my own computer
[06:31] <brenner> np
[06:31] <brenner> benji: we do ... system > about gnome
[06:32] <srijith> chicken-man, is telnetd running?
[06:32] <GoClick> brenner yes
[06:32] <srijith> chicken-man, ps aux |grep telnend
[06:32] <chicken-man> srijith, it should be
[06:32] <benji> system > about gnome?
[06:32] <srijith> chicken-man, ps aux |grep telnetd
[06:32] <GoClick> tang is much better when it's mixed double strong and left for 4 hours to mellow....
[06:32] <mihai> so why does it forward me to another channel when i join #kde ?
[06:32] <GoClick> mihai because it's not an official channel (if it starts with ##)
[06:32] <chicken-man> srijith, what does that do?
[06:32] <brenner> GoClick: run sudo apt-get update
[06:33] <srijith> it should show you if telnetd is running or not
[06:33] <Belutz> mihai: maybe it needs you to register your nick first
[06:33] <mihai> GoClick, no, that's not it, pls try to join it yourself and see
[06:33] <chicken-man> srijith, i don't get any thing
[06:33] <mihai> it doesn't say nothing about that
[06:33] <srijith> chicken-man, then most probably it is not running
[06:34] <Belutz> mihai: i just join #kde and it has +r for the channel attributes
[06:34] <chicken-man> srijith, when i run telnetd it don't do any thing
[06:34] <srijith> chicken-man, try telnetd -h  or man telnetd
[06:35] <kaha> chicken-man: apt-get install telnetd
[06:35] <srijith> chicken-man, I don't have telnetd on any of my machines, so can't say for sure what could be going on..
[06:35] <srijith> kaha, he has telned
[06:35] <srijith> s/telned/telnetd
[06:35] <GoClick> brenner, ok I did the apt-get update but still synaptic can't find it
[06:35] <kaha> hrm
[06:36] <carajean> how to uninstall and then reinstall firefox???
[06:36] <brenner> GoClick: do you get the errors though?
[06:36] <brenner> GoClick: you uncommented hoary-extras right?
[06:36] <GoClick> No errors nothing
[06:36] <BkE> hello
[06:36] <spiral> hi
[06:36] <GoClick> I wonder if my DNS is buggered?
[06:36] <tristanmike> !NTFS
[06:36] <brenner> carajean: easy way: synaptic, mark for reinstallation
[06:37] <chicken-man> srijith, i use invoke-rc.d inetd start  to start it but it fails
[06:37] <srijith> chicken-man, with any particular error message?
[06:37] <BkE> there was a page called "ihate640x480" at wiki, it told me how i can make that in console my resolution is 1024x768 instead of 640x480.. but that page is dead :'( does anyone know what it was to add in menu.lst ? vga= ...
[06:37] <BkE> sorry for my bad englisch
[06:37] <BkE> english
[06:38] <brenner> GoClick: you uncommented hoary-extras right?
[06:38] <chicken-man> srijith, nope just [fail] 
[06:38] <brenner> lol
[06:38] <GoClick> brenner, no, although I did that just now and ran update again and got a whack of errors, I'll pastebin them
[06:38] <chicken-man> srijith, restart works
[06:38] <tristanmike> where do i find the documentation on why I shouldn't write to NTFS?
[06:38] <brenner> BkE: 0x318
[06:38] <tristanmike> on the wiki preferably
[06:39] <BkE> on, yes :)
[06:39] <chicken-man> srijith, but still don't work
[06:39] <srijith> chicken-man, that would mean telnetd is already running
[06:39] <srijith> try stopping
[06:39] <srijith> and then running
[06:39] <GoClick> brenner, here are my errors http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1581
[06:39] <chicken-man> srijith, nope
[06:39] <brenner> BkE: that's for 1024....you can also pass vga=ask to try different ones.  there's a framebuffer table out there that has the hex codes for all resolutions
[06:40] <brenner> GoClick: sec
[06:40] <BkE> ok thnx
[06:40] <kaha> brenner: and where should that be added?
[06:40] <srijith> chicken-man, you are doing "sudo" right?
[06:40] <chicken-man> srijith, i am logged in as root
[06:41] <brenner> GoClick: i just enabled extras on my machine and i connected fine....looks like something to do on your end
[06:41] <GoClick> That'
[06:41] <kaha> brenner: I mean, to what file? /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[06:41] <brenner> GoClick: i.e. i didn't get the 404s so the extras repo is definitely online
[06:41] <srijith> chicken-man, does /var/log/kern.log say anything about telnetd?
[06:41] <GoClick> That's pretty obviouse... heh
[06:42] <reiki_work> ok I just find this interesting. I visited a#windows on Efnet where I was an opper for many years. And I talked about my recent experience with Ubuntu and how much I am enjoying it. And another opper there (who used to work for RedHat in Charlotte, NC, US) was telling me that he is very impressed with Ubuntu. The interesting thing is that nobody was like... "evil linux!" or that kind of baby...
[06:42] <chicken-man> srijith, *checks*
[06:42] <reiki_work> ...crap. Everyone is interested. It's just harder for some to get away from the software that RUNS on windows.
[06:42] <Xappe> hello ppl. how do I get the update-notifier not to load at gnome startup? it's currently taking up 100% cpu and I don't want to remove it because of ubuntu-desktop
[06:42] <brenner> kaha: ?  i thought BkE was asking that
[06:42] <brenner> GoClick: try again later maybe?  sorry, dunno.
[06:42] <kaha> brenner: he was, but I need to know also.  :)
[06:42] <carajean> please will some tell me how to uninstall firefox?
[06:42] <GoClick> Ok
[06:42] <brenner> kaha: did you want the options or hardcoded 1024?
[06:43] <srijith> reiki_work, what is a guy from RH doing in #windows?
[06:43] <srijith> :)
[06:43] <GoClick> DNS resolution takes a REALLY long time on my Linux machine on the same connection as my Windows machine, any ideas?
[06:43] <reiki_work> carajean: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox   ... I think that's it
[06:43] <chicken-man> srijith, nope
[06:43] <kaha> brenner: hardcoded 1024 sounds good. And I need a font that shows the arrows in mutt.
[06:43] <carajean> thanks that worked
[06:43] <Xof> does ubuntu provide a 64-bit userland on G5s?  (basically, how many bits in "long"?)
[06:43] <reiki_work> srijith: most of the old oppers on that channel do a LOT of different things
[06:44] <GoClick> brenner what IP address do you get for public.plantmirror.com ?
[06:44] <srijith> chicken-man, I am stumped.. havent used telnetd for some time now
[06:44] <Sparky> hey
[06:44] <srijith> reiki_work, :)
[06:44] <Sparky> I have a very big problem with gtkpod
[06:44] <chicken-man> srijith, how did you start it ?
[06:44] <brenner> kaha: add vga=0x318 to the end of the kernel line for your ubuntu boot section in menu.lst
[06:44] <Sparky> here is exactly what happened
[06:44] <Sparky> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=316791#post316791
[06:44] <Sparky> that thread shows what happened
[06:44] <srijith> chicken-man, star what?
[06:44] <carajean> ok now what the apt-get command to install it?
[06:44] <kaha> brenner: ah, thank you!
[06:45] <Sparky> does anyone know how to fix that?
[06:45] <chicken-man> srijith, telnetd
[06:45] <carajean> flash player messed up firefox so im doin a remove and install
[06:45] <brenner> kaha: dunno about mutt sorry
[06:45] <Sparky> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=316791#post316791 can anybody help me?
[06:45] <srijith> chicken-man, that was more than 2 yrs ago.. havent used it before that.. then I guess using init.d/telnetd
[06:45] <phantom_> Anyone know how to add true type fonts????
[06:45] <brenner> GoClick: how do i get the ip address? *sheepish grin*
[06:45] <reiki_work> carajean: you might also want to do a purge. Otherwise some user preferences may remain after the uninstall
[06:45] <srijith> !fonts
[06:45] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[06:46] <carajean> ok how do i purge?
[06:46] <phantom_> thanks
[06:46] <Sparky> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=316791#post316791
[06:46] <Sparky> I tried to use my Ipod just a second ago with Gtkpod, but I get an error
[06:46] <Sparky> and when I use the ipod, all the music is gone
[06:46] <reiki_work> carajean: sudo apt-get purge mozilla-firefox I think... might want to verify that one
[06:47] <GoClick> brenner nslookup public.plantmirror.com
[06:47] <Sparky> can anybody help?
[06:47] <brenner> 203.49.70.20
[06:47] <GoClick> Yeah that's totally not what I get
[06:47] <carajean> reiki_work  that didnt work
[06:48] <brenner> GoClick: so that's bad? :)
[06:48] <Jolla00> what is the default root password in ubuntu?
[06:48] <_frank> !sudo
[06:48] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:48] <Sparky> can anybody help me??
[06:48] <GoClick> No it means I have crummy GT DNS servers :P
[06:48] <GoClick> Jolla00 there is no root user persay you need to use sudo for security reasons, when it asks for a password, put your password in
[06:48] <carajean> ok now that i deleted firefox is there another default browser?
[06:48] <Deep6> anyone have a rio mp3 player working in ubuntu?
[06:48] <GoClick> carajean did you try and reinstall firefox?
[06:48] <Deep6> more specifically the chiba?
[06:49] <Sparky> canb anybody help me with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=316791#post316791
[06:49] <Sparky> please?
[06:49] <reiki_work> carajean: try apt-get --purge (2 minus signs in there)
[06:49] <srijith> carajean, Opera?
[06:49] <StR> Hi all
[06:49] <carajean> ok i tried to install mozilla firefox but it said that it depended on firefox
[06:49] <srijith> carajean, not sure if there are packages available, but should be
[06:49] <StR> in aptitude?  how do I do a remove --purge?
[06:49] <brenner> man aptitude
[06:50] <Sparky>  canb anybody help me with this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=316791#post316791
[06:50] <brenner> purge might be an apt-get thing
[06:50] <apokryphos> StR: it purges automatically
[06:50] <reiki_work> carajean: it'd be sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[06:50] <carajean> nvm mind guys my boyfriend is on his way over with windows
[06:50] <brenner> Sparky: if anyone knows, they'll answer, searched the forums yet?
[06:50] <Sparky> A little
[06:51] <brenner> do more while you wait for an answer :)
[06:51] <apokryphos> StR: hm, actually, I forget myself... there is a purge
[06:51] <brenner> anyway bedtime for me
[06:51] <xenomeliteforce> hi all. Does anyone know where to find the file usbvideo.h? I need it for "make"ing my webcam working (Trust Spacecam 120)
[06:51] <Sypder_Man> google?
[06:52] <xenomeliteforce> I installed the linux-headers (Hoary 5.4)
[06:53] <srijith> xenomeliteforce, dont think it comes with the headers
[06:53] <gnujach> hi Does anyone know change X resolution in 5.04 from console
[06:53] <xenomeliteforce> srijith: Do you have an ideo where to get that file? I tried google but I didn't find anything for ubuntu :(
[06:54] <srijith> xenomeliteforce, dont know offhand.. will try to find out and let u know if I find anything
[06:54] <xenomeliteforce> srijith: Thank you very much :)
[06:55] <tristanmike> Is anyone else having troubles with the forums??
[06:55] <Sypder_Man>  xenomeliteforce , why would you want to change the resolution via console?
[06:55] <srijith> if I am looking for codes on how the windowing system performs copy-paste where should I look for them?
[06:55] <Sypder_Man> If you are in gnome right now
[06:55] <srijith> in the X codes?
[06:55] <Sypder_Man> ctrl + alt + (+) on the keypad
[06:55] <Jolla00> GoClick, thanks
[06:55] <Sypder_Man> Make sure you use the + on the keypad
[06:56] <xenomeliteforce> Spyder: I didn't ask how to change the resolution in the console ;)
[06:56] <xenomeliteforce> *Sypder
[06:56] <Copland> is there any reason why xmms is locking up on me
[06:57] <GoClick> How can I clearn DNS cache?
[06:57] <Sypder_Man> xenomeliteforce, did that solve your problem?
[06:57] <xenomeliteforce> Sypder: No. I want to get my webcam running :) My resolution is just fine
[06:59] <Sypder_Man> :/
[06:59] <Sypder_Man> Rofl
[06:59] <_frank> xenomeliteforce: check http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=usbvideo.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=unstable&arch=i386
[06:59] <Copland> I got mp3 working on the other programs like rythmbox and totem but still xmms locks up every time i try playing an mp3 and yes i apt-get xmms-libmad plug
[06:59] <Sypder_Man> I was talking to the wrong guy :/
[06:59] <_frank> xenomeliteforce: I have no idea if that helps though
[06:59] <xenomeliteforce> _frank: Thanks! I'll try it
[07:00] <mlopes> hi. which is the package that contains the codecs for mplayer?
[07:00] <_frank> w32codecs
[07:00] <bonggnu> hi, i  cannot write a cdr with cdrecord, only works with cdrdao
[07:01] <Bartimaeus> can anyone help:  I made an html document and tried to save it in /var/www and it said error, cant save it there.  ANyone know whats going on?
[07:01] <mlopes> _frank.. it says it is not available.. am I missing a deb repository?
[07:01] <fl> is there something nice and windowy for LVM?
[07:01] <srijith> Bartimaeus, sudo
[07:01] <Bartimaeus> do u just do it at a terminal?
[07:01] <_frank> mlopes: its in hoary-extras and only for x86
[07:01] <mlopes> k
[07:02] <mlopes> does hoary-extras come with sources.list?
[07:02] <Copland> mlopes,  I know that people like using apt-get but mplayer win32codcs can be downloaded from there website and extracted into the /usr/lib/win32 directory
[07:02] <x_or> Can anyone help me get ruby 1.8.2 installed?  I've downloaded and installed the source, but I cannot install gems since t requires yaml and zlib.  Installing those with apt-get doesn't work since the repository is for 1.8.1 ruby.
[07:03] <mlopes> Copland: didn't know it was so easy
[07:03] <mlopes> if it is a matter for tar xvzf then i'll download it
[07:03] <mlopes> but.. apt-get makes it easier to upgrade
[07:03] <Copland> yeah there not real install but let me double check
[07:03] <Sypder_Man> Well
[07:04] <karczi> can anyone tell me the reason why sound is not work good in my kubuntu or if anyone knows - plz tell me the solution
[07:04] <Copland> mlops just have to find where ubuntu did with mplayer
[07:04] <mlopes> ok
[07:04] <tristanmike> Can someone else please confirm that the forums are down please.
[07:04] <Copland> a source install of mplayer put the win32 codec folder in usr/libs but i am not seeing it here
[07:04] <mlopes> in the mean time.. _frank, what is the address of the hoary-extras?
[07:04] <Copland> yeah just apt-get it
[07:05] <_frank> !addingrepositories
[07:05] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, _frank
[07:05] <Davey|Work> tristanmike: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO - :/
[07:05] <nophix> karczi: you should describe your problem better
[07:05] <tristanmike> lol
[07:05] <karczi> nophix: i'm a newbie so i dont know how to describe it better :|
[07:05] <_frank> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:06] <tristanmike> Davey, is that NOOOOO they're down, or NOOOO they're not down?
[07:06] <xenomeliteforce> _frank: Hm, is didn't work :( I copied the usbvideo.h into the same directory of the file which wants to include the usbvideo.h, but it can't find it :(
[07:06] <tristanmike> Davey, lol
[07:06] <nophix> karczi: then it's _very_ hard to help you
[07:06] <Bartimaeus> anyone: how do i sudo and save an html in /var/www?
[07:06] <mlopes> deb http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-extras universe
[07:06] <mlopes> isn't this right?
[07:07] <xenomeliteforce> _frank: And when I'm performing a "make clean", the usbvideo.h gets deleted :-/
[07:07] <karczi> nophix: mmmm so what u need to know to help me?
[07:07] <nophix> Bartimaeus: with your favoriteditor maybe?
[07:07] <thespiritoftal> is there a way to resume a download I have started with wget? I have got disconnected :/
[07:07] <_frank> xenomeliteforce: I really got to go...sorry.. I don't know what to do
[07:07] <nophix> karczi: is it working at all or in just some programs?
[07:08] <landotter> thespiritoftal, "wget -c nameofdownload"
[07:08] <tristanmike> Davey|Work, Was that no they're down or no I have a crappy ISP? lol
[07:08] <Bartimaeus> some1 saidsomething about sudo -s -H, and then cp/mv
[07:08] <xenomeliteforce> _frank: Ok. But thanks for your help!
[07:08] <Davey|Work> tristanmike: they're down
[07:08] <thespiritoftal> hmm and how can i learn the name of download?_
[07:08] <tristanmike> Davey|Work, NOOOOOOOOOO!
[07:08] <tristanmike> Davey|Work, thanx
[07:09] <karczi> nophix: not working al all :|
[07:09] <landotter> thespiritoftal, scroll through your previous entries in the console with the up and down keys, then just add a "-c" to the command when you find the previous wge entry.
[07:10] <nophix> karczi: search for sound on wiki.ubuntu.com and read some docs first
[07:11] <thespiritoftal> landotter: so you say "wget -r -c <site name>" should work?
[07:11] <gnujach> SyderMan: My Screen Not suport 1024
[07:11] <karczi> nophhix: that's what i'm doing now :]  i'll try to get more specific information and then i'll try here again :P 10x anyway
[07:11] <landotter> thespiritoftal, I'm not certain what the "-r" switch does, but "-c" simply continues a download. Make sure you're in the same directory as the file that you want to continue. :)
[07:12] <thespiritoftal> -r belonged to the older command
[07:12] <thespiritoftal> recursive
[07:12] <Bartimaeus> all:  How do you move a file in the command promt?
[07:13] <landotter> "mv"
[07:13] <Bartimaeus> ya, but what is the syntax
[07:13] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: man mv
[07:13] <landotter> "man mv"
[07:13] <landotter> jinx
[07:13] <Bartimaeus> oh
[07:13] <apokryphos> private jinx
[07:13] <apokryphos> woo
[07:14] <_frank> !basiccommands
[07:14] <ubotu> _frank: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:14] <apokryphos> _frank: the Wiki is good for some of that stuff
[07:14] <apokryphos> Also worth checking is the Rute guide
[07:14] <apokryphos> !rute
[07:14] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[07:15] <Bartimaeus> how do you move something in the terminal - DETAILS PLEASE!!!!! not just man mv
[07:15] <thespiritoftal> landotter: it doesn't work cause what I was downloading wasn't a single file I was downloading an entire web-site
[07:15] <thespiritoftal> is there another way maybe?
[07:16] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: the man page tells you *exactly* how to do it
[07:17] <Bartimaeus> i know, except i dont understand a word of what it is saying!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:17] <bretzel> Hello, Does someone using wine ?
[07:17] <chillywilly> what do I thorugh in ~/.vnc/xstartup to start up a gnome session via VNC?
[07:17] <NoUse> Bartimaeus you don't understand Source and Destination?
[07:17] <chillywilly> hmmm, it stuck x-window-manager in there but that didn't start up gnome
[07:17] <Bartimaeus> i get that, but not how to implement it
[07:18] <apokryphos> mv [OPTION] ... SOURCE DEST
[07:18] <ompaul> Bartimaeus, source where the file lives now - destination where it will live - mv foo /Desktop/.
[07:18] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  try, "mv /path/to/file/filename /path/to/new/location/new_filename"  It doesn't get much easier than that!
[07:18] <NoUse> !mv
[07:18] <ubotu> NoUse: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:18] <Bartimaeus> thankyou
[07:18] <Bartimaeus> thats what i wanted
[07:19] <Bartimaeus> someone to tell me *exactly* what to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:19] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: erm, he told you nothing more than the man page tells you. Good practice to read :)
[07:19] <NoUse> Bartimaeus yeah IRC is not an exercise in hand holding
[07:19] <Bartimaeus> no, thats news to me
[07:19] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: you learn something new everyday :)
[07:20] <apokryphos> the channels shouldn't be a substitute for the man pages or for Google
[07:20] <Xappe> is www.ubuntuforums.org down? can't seem to reach it right now...
[07:20] <Bartimaeus> hmm
[07:20] <Bartimaeus> personally, i beg to differ
[07:20] <thespiritoftal> who invented ubuntu?
[07:20] <tristanmike> Xappe, yes the forums are quite down
[07:20] <Xappe> ok
[07:20] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: Mark Shuttleworth, but it's based on Debian.
[07:21] <lirio> do you speak spanish
[07:21] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: then your personal opinion is wrong :)
[07:21] <tristanmike> apokryphos, damn, you got to it before me =)
[07:21] <thespiritoftal> what are the basic differences with debian and ubuntu?
[07:21] <Bartimaeus> apokryphos:  actually, i just took a detailed look at the main page.  It says nothing useful to someone who already knows nother
[07:21] <apokryphos> Bartimaeus: then you should man man
[07:22] <chicken-man> can some one see if my ssh server works  80.6.146.2
[07:22] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell thespiritoftal about debian
[07:22] <tristanmike> I'd have to agree with Bartimaeus, the man pages are pretty cryptic
[07:22] <Bartimaeus> thankyou
[07:22] <NoUse> learning to understand man pages is one of the best things you can do to understanding linux
[07:22] <apokryphos> Then you should learn to read them; it's not hard.
[07:23] <thespiritoftal> man pages are so simple
[07:23] <apokryphos> mv source destination is cryptic? Hm.
[07:23] <tristanmike> absolutely, the point was for a person who knows nothing, they're cryptic
[07:23] <tristanmike> it just takes time =)
[07:23] <Bartimaeus> well, im 10, and ive had ubuntu on this computer for a grand total of 4 days
[07:23] <chicken-man> can some one see if my ssh server works  80.6.146.2 please
[07:23] <mihai> how can i tell apt-get to remove all direct backward dependencies of mozilla-firefox and redownload them from the repos ?
[07:23] <sean_> wow breezy took my system down :(
[07:23] <apokryphos> tristanmike: I completely disagree; mv source destination is anything but cryptic
[07:23] <landotter> max@ubuntu:~$ man woman | No manual entry for woman
[07:23] <JairunCaloth> I have to agree, man pages used to make me want to cry
[07:24] <hardw1re> sean_: yeah breezy is still way too much in development to use to be honest
[07:24] <hardw1re> stick to hoary
[07:24] <sean_> hardw1re, i was trying to test it for bugs..
[07:24] <landotter> just upgraded to hoary from wary--it's the business. :)
[07:24] <sean_> but it wont even load
[07:24] <dooglus> would someone using 'breezy' please try installing and running 'sysv-rc-conf'.  is it broken?
[07:24] <hardw1re> yeah i used it the other day :|
[07:24] <mihai> chicken-man, seems to work
[07:24] <zer0`> root@ubuntu:/home/kev # man you\! | No manual entry for you!
[07:24] <JairunCaloth> does anyone here use samba much?
[07:24] <hardw1re> but i reinstalled to hoary lol
[07:24] <tristanmike> apokryphos, it's the dots and brackets they use, confusing, was, kinda still is for me
[07:24] <chicken-man> mihai, thanks :P
[07:25] <sean_> but hoary runs great :p
[07:25] <mihai> but i don't know the password :p
[07:25] <chicken-man> mihai, heh :P
[07:25] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64] 
[07:25] <Virtuall> ...hello everybody, need help. Installing Ubuntu over Fedora Core 3 (removed everything except /home and /root). Everything installed ok, but on boot it says 'Filesystem has unsopported feature enabled'. Anyone knows what feature it could be?
[07:25] <sean_> aside from the one line u have to fix to get sound working, but i mean thats pretty bloody easy... remind me of mandrake
[07:25] <apokryphos> tristanmike: ok, sure. All the more reason to get used to them, and *all* the more reason for me to recommend them
[07:25] <JairunCaloth> when I try to connect to my computer from a windows box, it wants a user name and password, but I can't figure out what to put in
[07:25] <apokryphos> tristanmike: no point having man pages as some type of gremlin for you, if you're using Linux
[07:25] <thespiritoftal> here I am on the road again
[07:25] <Virtuall> (FS type is ext3, and it mounts it as ext3)
[07:26] <ompaul> !tell hardw1re about ask
[07:26] <tristanmike> apokryphos, like I said, I absolutely agree, but they are kinda cryptic if you don't know anything, that's all
[07:26] <hardw1re> ompaul: and the purpose of that was? :P
[07:26] <Virtuall> ...anyone? :(
[07:26] <mihai> ok so can anybody help me fix firefox ? i guess some libs from breezy broked it, how can i reemerge all its dpendencies from hoary
[07:27] <tristanmike> apokryphos, I never said asking questions on the man pages wasn't helpful either ;)
[07:27] <ThxGiving> hi!
[07:27] <theblue> Hi all.
[07:27] <theblue> If I order CDs from Shipit now, will they be Hoary or Breezy CDs?
[07:27] <apokryphos> tristanmike: :)
[07:27] <dooglus> is there a man page that explains that "[ ] " means "optional", "|" means "disjunction", "..." means "one or more times" and so on?
[07:27] <ompaul> hardw1re, ask your specific question and maybe someone can help, but how hard your question is at this time nobody knows  and therefore can't guage if they can reply correctly for you
[07:28] <dooglus> ah - "man man" does just that.
[07:28] <mihai> ok so can anybody help me fix firefox ? i guess some libs from breezy broked it, how can i reemerge all its dpendencies from hoary ? i've modified sources.list to the original, but i still get firefox 1.06 help !
[07:28] <ThxGiving> maybe someone can help me ;)
[07:28] <Virtuall> hey... somebody just has to know what undocumented feature it's talking about
[07:28] <ThxGiving> i try to install package "bootsplash" and "limewire-pro"
[07:28] <Virtuall> :(((
[07:28] <ThxGiving> but
[07:29] <ThxGiving> those packages require a libc6 > 2.2.3.ds1-21
[07:29] <hardw1re> but i dont have a question
[07:29] <hardw1re> im just a humble hoary user on an x86_64 system
[07:29] <ThxGiving> and hoary has ver 2.2.2.ds1-20
[07:29] <mihai> Virtuall, probably ext3 extended attributes or something ?
[07:29] <hardw1re> here to help other people
[07:30] <Virtuall> mihai, i understand that, I don't get which ones exactly
[07:30] <cycom> ThxGiving: so...go download 2.2.3 and install it by hand?
[07:30] <ThxGiving> great idea
[07:30] <mihai> Virtuall, you should ask in #fedora maybe, since it's more like a fedora issue ?
[07:30] <ThxGiving> where can i find the ubuntu deb for this lib version?
[07:30] <Virtuall> ok
[07:30] <Hieronymus> Can somebody help me with dh_make? It gives this error message: "Source file is a bz2 but bzip2 or gzip not available at /usr/bin/dh_make line 409, <STDIN> line 1.
[07:31] <mihai> ok so can anybody help me fix firefox ? i guess some libs from breezy broked it, how can i reemerge all its dpendencies from hoary ? i've modified sources.list to the original, but i still get firefox 1.06 help !
[07:31] <mihai> oops, re apt-get :)
[07:31] <mihai> gentoo got to me
[07:31] <theblue> Heh.
[07:31] <hardw1re> :/
[07:31] <hardw1re> genpoo?
[07:31] <hardw1re> :P
[07:31] <mihai> zentoo
[07:32] <mihai> i predict we will all be using gentoo in a few years
[07:32] <theblue> Meh.
[07:32] <tristanmike> what, it's not Ten-to, it's half past?? :s
[07:32] <hardw1re> i predict, in a few years microsoft will finally give in and actually convert there system over to the linux way of life
[07:33] <mihai> hardw1re, never :)
[07:33] <tristanmike> i predict that windows will fall very hard and very fast
[07:33] <mihai> never
[07:33] <tristanmike> the bigger they are.....
[07:33] <ompaul> tristanmike, however they will try to make linux illegal in the mean time
[07:33] <mihai> because you always have human stupidity and ignorance
[07:33] <theblue> I like tristanmike's idea better.
[07:33] <reiki_work> windows isn't windows because of how good teh product is... it's where it is because of how well it was marketed
[07:33] <theblue> And how stupid people are.
[07:33] <tristanmike> ompaul, I'm afraid they might actually succeed at that
[07:33] <theblue> Hi reiki!
[07:33] <reiki_work> hi The Blue! :)
[07:34] <reiki_work> I'm at work dude... so kinda in and out of here
[07:34] <theblue> I noticed.
[07:34] <reiki_work> oh yeah.... duh
[07:34] <reiki_work> :)
[07:34] <tristanmike> does anybody remember the first Steve Ballmer Windows commercial, "ONLY $99.00"
[07:34] <theblue> :)
[07:34] <theblue> OUCH.
[07:34] <theblue> $99?
[07:34] <tristanmike> lol
[07:34] <reiki_work> tristanmike: how about Chicago!  With Win32C
[07:34] <theblue> I can get 20 Ubuntu CDs FOR FREE.
[07:34] <ThxGiving> how stable is breezy?
[07:34] <theblue> And all the software I want FOR FREE.
[07:34] <mihai> ok so help me if you can,.. how can i re-emerge firefox's dependencies ? and where does apt keep it's downloaded packages
[07:34] <tristanmike> rotfl
[07:35] <tristanmike> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:35] <reiki_work> I still have a Chicago logo somewhere
[07:35] <chicken-man> mihai. reinstall it !
[07:35] <ompaul> ThxGiving, not very, it will be great in octber
[07:35] <reiki_work> :)
[07:35] <theblue> Let's see, M$ rapes me and takes control of my PC, my rights, and my firstborn, and I'm PAYING THEM.
[07:35] <theblue> For $99.
[07:35] <ThxGiving> i mean.. are there any major problems in breezy?
[07:35] <ThxGiving> like gcc4 transition incomplete
[07:35] <tristanmike> Thank You Mr. Shuttleworth and the Ubuntu community
[07:35] <ThxGiving> or many broken packages?
[07:35] <reiki_work> theblue: yeah but when you want to RENEW your license... then it's another $200
[07:35] <theblue> Amen.
[07:35] <theblue> DAMN.
[07:36] <mihai> chicken-man, yeah i did apt-get remove mozilla-firefox apt-get install mozilla-firefox but it gets 1.06 instead of 1.02 which hoary has, because i've updated to breezy and then switched back
[07:36] <mihai> oops, bad idea
[07:36] <theblue> And $35 whenever you need help that's never helpful.
[07:36] <ompaul> ThxGiving, on a day to day basis stuff changes and will continue to, so right this moment you could be okay and in five minutes who knows
[07:36] <theblue> Here, I can just drop in, 24/7 and ask a question, and someone who knows about it is almost always here to help.
[07:36] <dooglus> theblue: I've had no major problems with breezy in the last few months.
[07:36] <theblue> And the wiki is also very useful.
[07:36] <concept10> mihai, hoary has 1.06 now
[07:36] <ThxGiving> ompaul: thanks
[07:37] <theblue> dooglus: I'm just wondering if Shipit CDs ordered now are Breezys.
[07:37] <ompaul> ThxGiving, that five minutes is really a full day long but that is how it is
[07:37] <ThxGiving> ompaul: i need a newer libc6 because of dependencies..
[07:37] <ThxGiving> ompaul: thats why im asking
[07:37] <thespiritoftal> ubuntu works so slow at my computer... but debian works really nice... this means it is not because of Ram or gnome...
[07:37] <mihai> concept10, oh ok then.. but how can i fix it ? i have no text in web pages, just the pictures
[07:37] <dooglus> theblue: I doubt it.  breezy isn't released yet.
[07:37] <mirak> hi
[07:37] <thespiritoftal> can it be about screen settings maybe?
[07:37] <theblue> dooglus: Nevermind.
[07:37] <mirak> is there an easy way to upgrade a ubuntu 32bits tu ubuntu 64 ?
[07:37] <concept10> mihai, my firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050725 Firefox/1.0.4 (Ubuntu package 1.0.6)
[07:37] <ompaul> ThxGiving, why not live with the latest and greatest stable, and then in October you can move forward
[07:38] <tristanmike> if you even want to then, Hoary is so amazing
[07:38] <concept10> mihai, try changing the font/color settings
[07:38] <mirak> is it possible to do a dist-upgrade from ubuntu 32 to ubuntu 64 ?
[07:38] <mihai> concept10, ok, but i want to fix it, i think one of the libs is broken or something, i don't know how to fix it
[07:38] <Hieronymus> I fixed it myself already, had to rename the .tar.bz2 to .tar
[07:38] <Hieronymus> thanks anyways
[07:38] <mihai> concept10, it's not that, it just crashed and since then it's been like that, i can't even see the text on the menus, i'm blind
[07:38] <robodex> forums are down?
[07:39] <tristanmike> robodex, for some time now
[07:39] <mig> Does anybody know if ubuntu/kubuntu runs in a IMac rev. A
[07:39] <robodex> ah, k
[07:39] <concept10> mihai, I still have a copy of the old firefox version if you want to try that package.
[07:39] <theblue> mig: From what I've heard, (K)Ubuntu will only run in a G4 or G5 man.
[07:39] <theblue> mig: mac.
[07:39] <theblue> mig: The original iMac is a G3.
[07:40] <ThxGiving> ompaul: thanks :)
[07:40] <mihai> concept10, it's not the package, it's some of the libs, i want to reemerge the libs, but from the internet, not the local cache
[07:40] <mihai> can i do that ?
[07:41] <mig> thanks. I run yellow dog linux, but I want to go to other more open distros
[07:41] <theblue> mig: No prob.
[07:41] <mig> any recomendations on what distro for the IMac
[07:41] <concept10> mihai, this isnt gentoo, but, you can remove firefox and try to reinstall. you may purge the install
[07:41] <mirak> is it possible to do a dist-upgrade from ubuntu 32 to ubuntu 64 ?
[07:42] <theblue> mig: From what I've heard, Debian might be able to.
[07:42] <mihai> concept10, i already did that a few times
[07:42] <theblue> mig: NetBSD, which isn't quite Linux, but is similiar, will probably run.
[07:42] <mihai> concept10, it;s in the libs somewher
[07:42] <lucas_vignoli> hi, folks, i'm having some trouble with sound on ubuntu, since i've intalled the kernel for k7, my sound isn't working anymore. It's an SI7012. Anyone could help me here please?
[07:42] <_liquidfire> I want to install an external program but i need to compile it from the source its a tar archive
[07:42] <mig> That was my second choice after ubuntu
[07:42] <theblue> mig: You can always check out www.distrowatch.com to see what distros will run on your hardware.
[07:42] <_liquidfire> and source is writtin in python
[07:42] <tristanmike> mirak, I wouldn't think so, that's a pretty hefty change, mobo and processor, and most likely RAM, probably video,
[07:43] <mig> thanks  for the info man
[07:43] <theblue> mig: No problem at all.
[07:43] <theblue> mig: If you want anymore help, just /msg me.
[07:43] <tristanmike> mirak, I wouldn't think you could do it for windows either though.....
[07:43] <mirak> tristanmike: what ?
[07:43] <tristanmike> mirak, os upgrade from 32 to 64
[07:43] <mirak> tristanmike: you know I have just changed cpu and processor
[07:43] <mirak> tristanmike: I use the same ubuntu version
[07:44] <mirak> tristanmike: mmm
[07:44] <tristanmike> mirak, you mean the motherboar and processor
[07:44] <mirak> lus graphic card
[07:44] <mirak> yes
[07:44] <mirak> :)
[07:44] <mihai> anybody know how to start links in graphic mode ?
[07:44] <lucas_vignoli> hi, folks, i'm having some trouble with sound on ubuntu, since i've intalled the kernel for k7, my sound isn't working anymore. It's an SI7012. I'm using Hoary. Anyone could help me here please?
[07:44] <concept10> mihai, what do you get from dpkg -l | grep -i firefox
[07:45] <tristanmike> mirak, I don't know, like I said, I just wouldn't think however, you could be pleasently suprised
[07:45] <mihai> ii  mozilla-firefox                       1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1                  lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
[07:45] <mihai> rc  mozilla-firefox-gnome-support         1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1                  Support for Gnome in Mozilla Firefox
[07:45] <mihai> ii  mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb          1.0.1lang20050411ubuntu1-0ubuntu1 Mozilla Firefox English language/region package
[07:46] <jalagus> Is there some default root password or why didn't the install ask me to set it? (sorry for my bad english :P)
[07:46] <ThxGiving> jalagus:
[07:46] <lucas_vignoli> Anyone could help me please with my sound problem?
[07:47] <ThxGiving> sudo passwd root
[07:47] <ThxGiving> or use the expert installer (type expert at boot:)
[07:47] <HappyFool> jalagus: ubuntu does not enable root by default; see link below for more info
[07:47] <jalagus> Ok. Thanks. :)
[07:47] <HappyFool> !sudo
[07:47] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:47] <wiegehts> lucas_vignoli, don't ask to ask, just ask
[07:47] <blight> wiegehts: do or do not, there is no try
[07:48] <Bartimaeus> anyone:  I hav an html file in my www folder, how do i make it so that ppl see the webpage, not the actual code?
[07:48] <mihai> anybody know how to st art links in graphic mode?
[07:48] <noob1> hello.  've got ndiswrapper problems.  Using 5.04 hoary hedgehog
[07:48] <HappyFool> Bartimaeus: if the filename ends in '.html', that should happen automatically
[07:49] <concept10> mihai, I dont know how to fix your problem.. If I were you I would try the old firefox version.  Or check your dependencies http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/web/mozilla-firefox
[07:49] <Bartimaeus> it shows me the actual code, but im am getting at it through virtual server on my router (http://localhost/)  Does that make a difference?
[07:49] <lucas_vignoli> thanks for the tip. okay. i'm using hoary and when i installed the kernel images for k7 the sound stopped working, it's an SI7012, how can i fix it?
[07:50] <lucas_vignoli> I have an Acer Aspire 3002
[07:50] <HappyFool> Bartimaeus: i wouldn't have thought using a router would make any difference. What is the name of the html file?
[07:50] <Virtuall> ...and back from fedora guys. seems like ubuntu doesn't know the resize_inode feature
[07:50] <Virtuall> "what now?"
[07:50] <Bartimaeus> website.html
[07:51] <Bartimaeus> at least, i named it website.html
[07:51] <wiegehts> lucas_vignoli, either the sound module is not being loaded or is not there at all
[07:51] <phantom_> anyone know if there is a way to play multirgion DVDs in Xine??
[07:51] <phantom_> I had remote selector in windows...
[07:52] <Bartimaeus> HappyFool:  the file has a "HTML" written on it when you look at it in nautolis
[07:52] <jalagus> Hmm... Has this useraccount I created in install same privilidges as root?
[07:52] <lucas_vignoli> i don't know how to view wich modules are loaded
[07:52] <jrj_> Is there a simple way to migrate from a Debian testing install to Ubuntu ?
[07:52] <wiegehts> lucas_vignoli, lsmod as root
[07:52] <HappyFool> Bartimaeus: i ahve created a simple /var/www/website.html, and browsed to http://localhost/website.html, and i see the rendered (i.e., not source) html
[07:53] <Bartimaeus> oh
[07:53] <Bartimaeus> ill mmake sure its html
[07:53] <wiegehts> jrj_, copy /home and install ubuntu, copy /home back over
[07:53] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  Do a, "ls /var/www" and see if your document is listed with a, ".html" extension...
[07:53] <jrj_> wiegehts: hehe - yep I tought so
[07:54] <Bartimaeus> how do i change it if it isn't?
[07:54] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  use mv
[07:54] <jrj_> Getting pretty tired of broken Debian packages - even in testing
[07:54] <Bartimaeus> kk
[07:54] <Bartimaeus> ya, its only webpage
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> wiegehts: these are the snd prefixed modules loaded, snd_intel8x0
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_ac97_codec
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_pcm_oss
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_mixer_oss
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_pcm
[07:54] <lucas_vignoli> snd_timer
[07:55] <Bartimaeus> tanks
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> snd
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> soundcore
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> snd_page_alloc
[07:55] <HappyFool> lucas_vignoli: please don't paste here
[07:55] <noob1> hello.  've got ndiswrapper problems.  Using 5.04 hoary hedgehog and it says ndiswrapper : unknown fucntion
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> sorry
[07:55] <_liquidfire> http://www.bittornado.com/download.html i have no clue howto install the tar archive
[07:55] <_liquidfire> what command do i need to use
[07:55] <lucas_vignoli> can i chat with you?
[07:55] <_liquidfire> ?
[07:55] <wiegehts> lucas_vignoli, sure
[07:55] <HappyFool> noob1: have you read the ndiswrapper page on the wiki?
[07:55] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  ok, so change it to something like, "index.html" or similar...
[07:56] <rapha> Hi all!
[07:56] <rapha> Are there .debs for bonjour? You can't really Google for it ...
[07:56] <HappyFool> _liquidfire: i think bittornado is available in via repositories
[07:56] <_liquidfire> k
[07:56] <_liquidfire> but it would be great if you tell me how to do it in the future
[07:56] <_liquidfire> or is there an howto?
[07:56] <_liquidfire> *a
[07:56] <Bartimaeus> it is now webpage.html, but when you click on the file in the index, it gives the source
[07:57] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  Do this... rename it to, "index.html" and then visit, "http://localhost" and you should see it...
[07:57] <Bartimaeus> thanks
[07:58] <Boy> hi guys
[07:58] <Boy> i was wondering if any of you could help me
[07:58] <malin> hm, i installed quodlibet [from .tar.gz, there wasn't a packet in repository]  and when i want to run it, nothing happens
[07:58] <malin> am i doing something wrong?
[07:58] <HappyFool> _liquidfire: it varies from app to app; usually, you download the .tar.gz file, extract it somewhere useful ( tar xjf filename.tar.bz2 -C ~/build/ ); then go to the src directory, and run './configure' or maybe 'python setup.py' (i think bittornado might be a python app)
[07:58] <Bartimaeus> thanks a lot, that worked
[07:59] <HappyFool> _liquidfire: typically there's a file called INSTALL or README or similar in the tarball telling you what to do
[07:59] <_liquidfire> ah thanks
[07:59] <Boy> whenever i try to compile anything it comes up with and error "configure: error: C compiler cannot make executables."
[07:59] <_liquidfire> :)
[07:59] <Boy> i have all the latest gcc's installed
[08:00] <HappyFool> Boy: have you installed the build-essential package?
[08:00] <rob_p> damn satellite connection  :-(
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[08:01] <Boy> i dont know let me just check
[08:01] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  Did that work?
[08:01] <HappyFool> Seveas: cool. going to be including version control for pastes too? ;)
[08:01] <Bartimaeus> yup
[08:01] <Bartimaeus> thanks a lot
[08:01] <Seveas> HappyFool, *g*
[08:01] <rapha> Hello anybody?
[08:01] <rob_p> Bartimaeus:  Cool!
[08:01] <Seveas> no, i'm gonna do syntax highlighting now
[08:01] <rapha> Am I being received?
[08:02] <Seveas> rapha, not really, there's a lot of noise in your signal :)
[08:02] <Ben_P> rapha: indeed you are
[08:02] <HappyFool> rapha: theren't aren't any bonjour debs in the ubuntu repositories that i can see; you can check on packages.ubuntu.com if you want
[08:02] <bluefoxicy> oh god they broke rhythmbox in breezy
[08:03] <sean_> breezy is broke :p it crashed my system
[08:03] <iiiears> there is always xmms :/
[08:03] <rapha> Thanks Seveas, Ben_P, HappyFool!
[08:03] <noob1> hello.  've got ndiswrapper problems.  Using 5.04 hoary hedgehog and it says ndiswrapper : unknown fucntion
[08:03] <rapha> :-)
[08:03] <Seveas> noob1, install the ndiswrapper-utils package
[08:03] <HappyFool> Seveas: i'm sure you have ideas how, but if it helps, i think viewcvs uses enscript
[08:03] <rapha> HappyFool: Actually I've been trying to install libsipphone from http://www.gizmoproject.com/download/libsipphoneapi_0.78.20050817.1-1_i386.deb and it requires bonjour...
[08:03] <g0su> hi all
[08:04] <iiiears> hi
[08:04] <Seveas> there's a PEAR class for syntax highlighting
[08:04] <Seveas> just like for diffs
[08:04] <g0su> one question please, the channel for ubuntu ppc?
[08:04] <sean_> sure is :)0
[08:04] <Seveas> g0su, this one
[08:05] <g0su> ok thx, i am not sure if the plataform ppc have a specific channel
[08:05] <malin> I installed quodlibet [from .tar.gz, there wasn't a packet in repository]  and when i want to run it, nothing happens
[08:05] <malin> am i doing something wrong?
[08:05] <Seveas> no it has not, we're all one big family :)
[08:05] <GoClick> I uncommented the extras line in the sources.list file and ran sudo apt-get update and this was the result I got 404 errors, wget also gets 404 errors and firefox does not so I assume it's a redirect. Here is the result http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1583
[08:06] <hmrocha> hello
[08:06] <hmrocha> i need some help
[08:07] <lucas_vignoli> my sound stopped working since i've installed the k7 kernel image, and know... even when i boot from the i386 it doesn't work anymore.
[08:07] <hmrocha> i'm mounting a directory with nfs
[08:07] <hmrocha> but the mount takes a long time
[08:07] <Seveas> GoClick, looks like publicmirror ditched hoary-extras...
[08:07] <deacon> Greetings!
[08:07] <rouven> hi. where do i get the nvidia-kernel-module for breezy?
[08:07] <Seveas> delete it from your sources again
[08:07] <hmrocha> it mounts the remote directory, but it takes a lot of time
[08:07] <hmrocha> what might be happening?
[08:07] <deacon> How is everybody today?
[08:08] <GoClick> Seveas, so why didn't burner have a problem connecting, that said wouldn't everyone be hooped now AND how can we fix this?
[08:08] <iiiears> nvidia-glx?
[08:08] <GoClick> deacon,  stressed, you?
[08:08] <Seveas> hmrocha, I'm experiencing the same om my machines. I solved it at work on a cluster but forgot to copy the settings. PLease msg me tomorrow when I will have them
[08:08] <deacon> Eh, could be better.  I can't log into my ubuntu at all
[08:08] <hmrocha> Seveas, i just tried running dmesg
[08:08] <hey2k5> hello
[08:08] <rouven> hmrocha: do you have the portmapper running?
[08:09] <HappyFool> any suggestions for a simple embedded linux distribution? something sans all the usual services (cron, mail etc) -- i'm wondering if it's easiest just to build my own
[08:09] <hmrocha> Seveas, i have some lines reporting "RPC: failed to contact portmap"
[08:09] <Seveas> hmm
[08:09] <rouven> nvidia-glx doesn't contain the module, neither does linux-restricted-modules.
[08:09] <hmrocha> rouven, if ubuntu doesn't run it by default, i don't have it
[08:09] <GoClick> HappyFool, will the embeded device have [Internet] work access?
[08:09] <hmrocha> Seveas, maybe that's our problem, not running portmap
[08:09] <Seveas> I'm running portmap
[08:09] <rouven> then you have to install it yourself.
[08:09] <hey2k5> can anyone tell me how I can get the "ndiswrapper-utils" package for warty? I have a wireless card, so I can't download "ndiswrapper-utils" via apt-get, i'm in windows.
[08:09] <deacon> If anyone here familiar with the issue of: Cannot log into ubuntu under runlevel 5?  I just get kicked back to the login screen.
[08:09] <HappyFool> GoClick: err, some specialized network only (canbus, i think)
[08:10] <Seveas> there's something icky: you really have to tune the parameters on the server
[08:10] <g0su> mmm please one little question, for change the clock utc for local? i move the two service hardware clock too stop(SXXlll -> K20lll) and edit one link(ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid /etc/localtime what it don't works(2h. different between ubuntu and mac ox)
[08:10] <Seveas> and I copied them from the network admins at work ;)
[08:10] <hey2k5> is there someway to know the address of a package, so I can download it without apt-get
[08:10] <GoClick> HappyFool, you might want to just roll your own, there gentoo, it's a metadistro it's a good starting place if you can.
[08:10] <apokryphos> hey2k5: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:10] <lucas_vignoli> my sound stopped working since i've installed the k7 kernel image, and know... even when i boot from the i386 it doesn't work anymore. When i installed hoary it worked out of the box. My card is a SI7012. esdsink is the only sink that doesn't returns error, but alsasink and osssink returns error!
[08:11] <HappyFool> GoClick: cool, thanks.
[08:11] <GoClick> Seveas, So is there a way I can get extras if the plantmirror dumped them?
[08:11] <apokryphos> hey2k5: though, you can use apt-get to download, and just tell it to not unpack/install
[08:11] <Tadej> ok
[08:11] <rouven> breezy uses nfs4, so you also have to pass the mount option nfsvers=3, if you want to access a nfs3 server.
[08:11] <Tadej> uzivaj
[08:11] <Tadej> sorry
[08:11] <Seveas> GoClick, other urls can be found at backports.ubuntuforums.org
[08:11] <apokryphos> Seveas: JRE pack was taken out of hoary-extras?
[08:11] <rouven> nobody with a nvidia graphics board on breezy?
[08:12] <HappyFool> lucas_vignoli: have you looked at the debugging sound page on the wiki?
[08:12] <Seveas> apokryphos, is that so?
[08:12] <apokryphos> rouven: many
[08:12] <apokryphos> Seveas: yeah; been wondering why, but no worries.
[08:12] <derFlo> hi
[08:12] <Seveas> apokryphos, JRE/J2SDK can be found at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl too :)
[08:12] <fl> did one of you you ever see boot issues with isolinux when using CD-RW as opposed to CD-R?
[08:12] <rouven> apokryphos, do you run nv or nvidia?
[08:12] <apokryphos> Seveas: excellent; I'll recommend that for now
[08:12] <apokryphos> nvidia
[08:12] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: i've looked into another wikipages related to sound, but not this noe
[08:13] <Seveas> apokryphos, that thing is not online 24/7, so tell that too :)
[08:13] <derFlo> i'm trying to make a multi boot DVD, putting ubuntu-install, ubuntu-live and debian-netinst on it using isolinux
[08:13] <hey2k5> thanks apokryphos, am going through it, I found the package, would I be able to download the .deb package? i'm looking around, can find the .deb download link..
[08:13] <derFlo> my problem: all of them have a "pool" directory
[08:13] <Seveas> derFlo, these dvds can be downloaded from ubuntu mirrors...
[08:13] <deacon> I seem to be unable to log into my Ubuntu.  When i try to log in it startts the login, then the screen flickers, then I get kicked back to the login page.  Can anyone help me?
[08:13] <g0su> Any know the option for change the UTC clock to local clock?
[08:13] <rouven> apokryphos, how did you get the binary only module into your kernel, i.e., which package does contain the module?
[08:13] <Seveas> derFlo, find one at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:13] <derFlo> can I use another dir, and if yes how
[08:13] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: Shall i look at it and return here if the errors persists?
[08:14] <derFlo> Seveas: also Debian?
[08:14] <Crube> Are the ubuntu forums down?
[08:14] <hardw1re> deacon: when u say kicked back, is that kicked back to a graphical or text screen?
[08:14] <hmrocha> rouven, thanks very much, it worked great
[08:14] <apokryphos> hey2k5: you can, yes. Choose to browse packages
[08:14] <deacon> graphical
[08:14] <hmrocha> rouven, i wasn't running portmapper :)
[08:14] <derFlo> I also want to put Win (BartPE) on it
[08:14] <hajiki> how can i disabled ipv6 from being used in networking
[08:14] <rouven> hmrocha, you're welcome.
[08:14] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: i thought that topic were for developers.
[08:14] <apokryphos> rouven: I just used the nvidia-glx provided; works fine here
[08:14] <derFlo> Saveas: I'll have a look, thx
[08:15] <deacon> hardw1re: I just get dumped back to the graphical login
[08:15] <apokryphos> rouven: might use the drivers from the site soon though; had some problems with composite
[08:15] <Crube> Anyone else having trouble connecting to ubuntu forums?
[08:15] <apokryphos> Crube: yes, they're down apparently
[08:16] <rouven> apokryphos, how do you call the driver in xorg.conf
[08:16] <fl> did someone here _ever_ use a CD-RW instead of a CD-R?
[08:16] <Crube> Ok just wanted to make sure I'm not the only one thanks.
[08:16] <JairunCaloth> I did one time....
[08:16] <hey2k5> apokrypho, I can only find files for download ending with *.gz @ http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/misc/ndiswrapper-utils
[08:16] <HappyFool> hmm. that was weird. either emacs crashed or i inadvertently switched desktops.
[08:17] <mjr> hmh, where did gdm store the user's session and language choices?
[08:17] <fl> JairunCaloth, and?
[08:17] <apokryphos> rouven: easiest way is to use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> Honestly, I think CD-RW's are a big waste of time for the most part. Unless you do a backup like every day or something
[08:17] <rob_p> deacon:  Check your system logs and see if there are any clues in there.  I suspect an authentication problem or similar but that's just a guess...
[08:17] <apokryphos> hey2k5: you can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicks in IRC :)
[08:17] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: i've certified myself lots of times if the mixer wasn't muted
[08:17] <apokryphos> hey2k5: are you looking to download a .deb?
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> You have to format a CD-RW when you want to re-write it
[08:17] <JairunCaloth> I'd just rather burn a new CD-R
[08:18] <fl> hmm. why "waste of time"? Because they are a compat nightmare?
[08:18] <fl> I just hate it to blow a CD-R I know I only use once.
[08:18] <HappyFool> lucas_vignoli: apologies; if you said much to me earlier, i'm afraid i probably missed it
[08:18] <apokryphos> fl: they cost like 15p here :P
[08:18] <Jhair> ls
[08:18] <apokryphos> same price as a Lolipop
[08:18] <hey2k5> oh apokryphos, i figured it out now. I had to click on the i386 link under Architecture to download the deb file.
[08:18] <JairunCaloth> Fl, CD-r's are cheaper than rw's too
[08:18] <fl> cost it not my problem. Wasting resources is.
[08:18] <apokryphos> hey2k5: precisely, yes :)
[08:19] <deacon> rob_p:  That's just it.  I CAN log into a terminal session.  Just not normal Gnome or failsafe Gnome.  They just dump me back to the login screen.  It's almost as if I'm being logged immediately out as soon as I log in.
[08:19] <HappyFool> lucas_vignoli: ok, so you're certain sound is not muted? And you don't here any sounds at all?
[08:19] <apokryphos> fl: you should be more worried about the power stations kept running by the usage of your computer :)
[08:19] <iiiears> fl - grab an external usb hard drive box. - gigs of portable  storage from old otherwise useless drives.
[08:19] <rob_p> deacon:  go to the terminal and view your system logs...
[08:19] <lucas_vignoli> HappyFool: don't worry, can i chat with you about something i think it is a bug an UI bug?
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> I'm not saying don't use cd-rw's I"m just saying that I never bother with them
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> Most of the stuff I put on CD's, I want it to stay on the CD
[08:19] <hey2k5> thanks for your help, i found file ending with *.gz, so I was looking for one ending with *.deb, didn't realised i386 was linked, i thought it was only bold text
[08:19] <JairunCaloth> So for me a CD-RW is impractical
[08:20] <deacon> ok, how do I do that again?
[08:20] <malin> is there any other Direct Connect client than dcgui?
[08:20] <fl> apokryphos, go figure: the CD-Rs just started piling up so bad, that I use practically only CD-Rs now. I had about 200 CD-Rs lying around.
[08:20] <tristanmike> fl, how do you catalog those
[08:20] <rob_p> deacon:  ... as in, ctrl-alt-f1 and then login at the prompt and view your logs...
[08:20] <apokryphos> hey2k5: seriously though, the easiest way to get a .deb you want is to just   sudo apt-get -d install {somepackage}
[08:20] <deacon> yeah, ,I am in the terminal, i just don't know how to view the logs
[08:21] <deacon> *embarrased*
[08:21] <fl> tristanmike, the CD-Rs? By writing on the surface and letting the intern sift through the mess...
[08:21] <rob_p> deacon:  they are located in /var/log
[08:21] <apokryphos> hey2k5: that will automatically download it to /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:21] <iiiears> fl - lol - the same here folio's piled 2 feet high filled with hundreds of mp3 cd's
[08:21] <apokryphos> hey2k5: ...but it won't do anything else; i.e. it won't unpack or install it.
[08:21] <tristanmike> fl, lol
[08:21] <rob_p> deacon:  /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog are typical files of interest...
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> Heh, I'm planning on numbering my CD-r's and building a searchable database I've got so many laying around
[08:21] <rob_p> deacon:  dmesg is good too!
[08:21] <JairunCaloth> just do a search for the program/song I'm looking for, and it tells me what cd it's on
[08:21] <tristanmike> fl, but seriously, do you know of any catalog programs for linux?
[08:22] <fl> iiiears, sounds familiar. I found even the pile of RedHat 6.1 betas. Twentyish or so.
[08:22] <iiiears> lol
[08:22] <apokryphos> cheaper/better
[08:22] <fl> tristanmike, no, sorry, I don't. My problem was that we usually used them once, and when the install went ok, the next beta rolled around. Never really needed to get them after that.
[08:22] <deacon> ok, got it up (funny, gedit runs.)
[08:22] <JairunCaloth> I still use CD's some times
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> like to burn a cd I can listen to in my car
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> or something else that dosn't need a whole DVD
[08:23] <hey2k5> apokryphos, i would have done that, but you know I have a wireless card supported under windows only so am unable to have internet access in ubuntu, gotta install this ndiswrapper on there to make it work, so that's why I was asking for this package location to download it on windows, and then will go to linux to install it...
[08:23] <fl> JairunCaloth, how backwards ;-) ipod your BMW!
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> plus cd's burn 100 times faster than dvds
[08:23] <deacon> weird.  I'm getting errors:  /homd/deacon is not owned by UID 1000
[08:23] <hey2k5> time to get back to linux
[08:23] <tristanmike> fl, fair enough, I've been having a damn hard time trying to find one, kinda strange.
[08:23] <JairunCaloth> I'm poor,
[08:23] <apokryphos> hey2k5: I understand =)
[08:23] <fl> the new BMW 1 even has an aux input
[08:24] <sataere> Hey everyone, is there a way I could prevent Ubuntu from setting up the network when it starts up?  I am using a cisco card to get online, but it tries to set up the network before loading the drivers.  I have to manually C-c the network config, or else it would just stick there all day.  I have no problem getting online at all, but the hang on startup is annoying.
[08:24] <fl> JairunCaloth, ok, sorry. But you could use something like the iTrip
[08:24] <fl> now that's cool.
[08:24] <rob_p> deacon:  what did you do prior to not being able to login properly?
[08:24] <fl> and it beats having CDs
[08:24] <robert_> is the forum down or something?
[08:24] <JairunCaloth> nah, cd's work fine for me
[08:24] <deacon> Tried to install cedega
[08:24] <JairunCaloth> I'd rather have a mp3 cd player than an ipod anyways
[08:25] <rouven> apokryphos, reconfiguring xserver-xorg is nice, but my system still lacks nvidia.ko. where did you get that from?
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> I can bring all my music and listen to it all
[08:25] <tristanmike> sataere, unplug your ethernet cord when installling??
[08:25] <deacon> and point2play
[08:25] <rob_p> deacon:  'cause /home/deacon should be owned by deacon and in group deacon...
[08:25] <apokryphos> rouven: did you install nvidia-glx?
[08:25] <iiiears> ipod - hm. - suddenly car multi cd players sound quaint. - grin
[08:25] <sataere> tristanmike, It's never been plugged in.
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> instead of just what I can fit on an ipod
[08:25] <GoClick> I've seen the wiki page on Java, I uncommended the line for the extras and planetmirror gave 404s, then I tried the ubuntuforums mirror and still can't find any packageswith j2re or sun- in the name
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> How about a 10 cd changer that will play mp3 cds
[08:25] <rouven> yes. i did. it only contains nvidi_drv.o, not the kernel driver.
[08:25] <JairunCaloth> ipod = pwned
[08:25] <apokryphos> rouven: I don't have nvidia.ko
[08:25] <fl> coming back to the CD-R question: anyone ever had funny boot problems with CD-R? I'm pretty much prepared to blame it on the CDROM drive, _but_ the FC{1,2,3,4} and a host of others just worked fine...
[08:26] <caliminus> how about a 10 dvd changer supporting mp3
[08:26] <tristanmike> sataere, oh, i see, sorry
[08:26] <rouven> could you do sudo lsmod|grep nvidia?
[08:26] <apokryphos> rouven: erm, no wait... I do. Hm.
[08:26] <sataere> transgress, no prob
[08:26] <sataere> tristanmike, no prob
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> lol caliminus I see we are thinking along the same lines
[08:26] <rob_p> deacon:  That's why your X session is dumping you back to the login... your home directory is not accessible  and can't be written to apparently...
[08:26] <sataere> transgress, sorry :(
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> oh dvd, nice
[08:26] <caliminus> got like 1000 dvd
[08:26] <JairunCaloth> that would be some major mp3 space
[08:27] <apokryphos> rouven: nvidia               3711172  12  (among other lines)
[08:27] <caliminus> 500 double side
[08:27] <JairunCaloth> why won't this friken game work!
[08:27] <apokryphos> rouven: nvidia.ko should come with your kernel
[08:27] <kenny> hi guys
[08:27] <apokryphos> rouven: linux-restricted-modules
[08:27] <Seveas> hi kenny
[08:27] <Flonne> sataere, I believe you can just remove the 'auto' line from /etc/network/interfaces, which should be what the network configuration utility under Gnome does when you deactive a card.
[08:27] <kenny> i need help with a plugin
[08:28] <fl> hmm. I just can't believe that noone ever uses CD-RW (any more). That's probably what Kernigham/Ritchie said when PHP came out...
[08:28] <Seveas> plugin for what?
[08:28] <sataere> Flonne, thanks I'll try that
[08:28] <kenny> i need to find gstreamer-muse plugin but cant find it
[08:28] <fl> or rather Larry Wall
[08:28] <JairunCaloth> I own one CD-RW and I don't think it's ever been re writen
[08:28] <kenny> hi seveas
[08:28] <apokryphos> kenny: gstreamer0.8-musepack
[08:28] <rouven> apokryphos, linux-restricted-modules only contains .o files, no .ko.
[08:28] <ompaul> when given a url with a pdf how do I get it to open in firefox as opposed to wget http://www.foo.whatever/some.pdf
[08:28] <kenny> yea thats what i need but i cant find it
[08:28] <JairunCaloth> CD-r's are way cheaper than CD-RW's and they burn faster
[08:29] <JairunCaloth> and they read in more stuff
[08:29] <rouven> apokryphos, how am is upposed to load that driover?
[08:29] <apokryphos> rouven: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_contents.pl?version=breezy&arch=i386&case=insensitive&word=nvidia.ko&searchmode=searchfiles
[08:29] <kenny> i have 0.8.10 but it wont install
[08:29] <fl> JairunCaloth, why do I get the feeling we turn in circles :-)
[08:29] <sataere> Boy I miss rc-update
[08:29] <kenny> i only have one song in mcp format and rhythembox dosnt play it
[08:29] <HappyFool> ompaul: i think the acroread-plugin might be what you want (in multiverse)
[08:29] <apokryphos> kenny: what's the error?
[08:29] <fl> ok, have a nice day guys. gotta make the wife happy.
[08:30] <Flonne> sataere, you'll get used to it soon enough. :)
[08:30] <iiiears> fl - "Take out the trash"? - silly grin
[08:30] <kenny> dependency problems prevent configuration of gstreamer0.8-musepack
[08:30] <derFlo> ok, I have an idea
[08:30] <rouven> apokryphos, argh! i'm running 2.6.12 (banging my head against the wall right now)
[08:30] <Julia1> Anyone here have experience running anjuta?
[08:30] <apokryphos> rouven: heh, I shoulda checked that first :P
[08:30] <rouven> apokryphos, so let's downgrade.
[08:30] <rouven> apokryphos, not your fault at all.
[08:30] <kenny> what version do i need to install and were can i get it
[08:31] <rouven> apokryphos, thanks for the massive help.
[08:31] <ompaul> HappyFool, think I may have broken system eariler :(
[08:31] <ZZco> fine
[08:31] <HappyFool> ompaul: doh
[08:31] <ompaul> HappyFool, I will get it in a little bit :)
[08:31] <ZZco> if you don't get off my nickname
[08:31] <ZZco> I'm killing you
[08:31] <ZZco> lol
[08:31] <kenny> guys? any suggestions
[08:31] <apokryphos> rouven: there's problems with graphics drivers in breezy kernels, altogether, and moreso in ATI than nvidia :|
[08:31] <kenny> iv tried looking at ubuntu forums but i think that is down
[08:32] <rouven> apokryphos, does it run stable on yopur system?
[08:32] <rouven> s/yopour/on your
[08:32] <apokryphos> rouven: breezy? As of late, yes -- reasonably stable.
[08:33] <rouven> apokryphos, the nvidia driver, to be exact.
[08:33] <kenny> this is the version i have gstreamer0.8-musepack_0.8.10-1ubuntu7_i386
[08:33] <kenny> is that the correct one
[08:33] <deacon> rob_p:  ok, so how do I fix that
[08:33] <apokryphos> kenny: that looks fine, yes.
[08:33] <rob_p> deacon:  Well, for starters, your home directory should be owned by you!
[08:33] <apokryphos> kenny: could you paste.ubuntulinux.nl the error output?
[08:33] <deacon> right.  how do I fix that?
[08:34] <kenny> k
[08:34] <deacon> chown 1000 /home/deacon???
[08:34] <apokryphos> rouven: sorry -- yes, fairly. Though I'm still having problems with Composite
[08:34] <rob_p> deacon:  chown it as in, chown deacon.deacon /home/deacon
[08:34] <deacon> right
[08:34] <kenny> iv pasted it what do i do
[08:35] <Julia1> No one worked with Anjuta?  I've been seeing the same issue with it as with some other things I've tried to do.  I get "Unable to load plugin /usr/local/lib/anjuta/*.so.  Error: "GetDescr": /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: GetDescr"
[08:35] <kenny> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1585
[08:35] <rob_p> deacon:  As far as I know, you should be able to do a recursive chown with the -R switch.  I think that would be safe since all the files below /home/deacon should be owned by you... someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[08:35] <HappyFool> Julia1: did you install using apt (synaptic, apt-get, etc.) ?
[08:35] <kenny> can you see the error message apokryphos
[08:35] <Julia1> apt.
[08:36] <apokryphos> kenny: yup; one sec
[08:36] <kenny> k
[08:36] <Julia1> I also have installed the fgxrl ati drivers.
[08:36] <deacon> Excellent!  I'm in!
[08:36] <deacon> thanks!
[08:36] <kenny> i think i need 0.8 and not 0.8.10
[08:37] <rob_p> deacon:  no prob.  Have fun :-)
[08:37] <apokryphos> kenny: hm, are you not using apt for this?
[08:37] <Julia1> I get several error messages for various plugins in /usr/local/lib/anjuta
[08:37] <jpfarias> hey people
[08:37] <HappyFool> Julia1: i don't think the ati drivers make a difference. i don't use anjuta, but it surprising that it is looking in /usr/local
[08:37] <kenny> iv tried apt but it dosnt have muse pack in it
[08:37] <apokryphos> kenny: it doesn't actually seem to be in the hoary repos
[08:38] <apokryphos> kenny: Yes, only in Breezy I guess
[08:38] <kenny> so i used breezy, which i know is stupid
[08:38] <jpfarias> is there any link on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:38] <apokryphos> kenny: you're on breezy? :/
[08:38] <kenny> no im on horay
[08:38] <hussam> Help, when I do locate something, I get /var/lib/slocate.db: permission denied
[08:38] <kenny> lol
[08:38] <kenny> I know its stupid
[08:38] <apokryphos> kenny: but added the breezy repository? Or, just got the breezy pack?
[08:38] <Julia1> these libs exist where it's looking.
[08:39] <apokryphos> kenny: you will cause problems if you do that
[08:39] <kenny> i just download the file
[08:39] <kenny> yea i know thats why i didnt add breezy to apt
[08:39] <kenny> i though it would be ok
[08:40] <apokryphos> Thing is, without apt you'll likely get dependency hell (as you have). But if you really need it, then you should compile
[08:40] <jpfarias> is there any links on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:40] <apokryphos> kenny: what does it do?
[08:40] <kenny> I dont really need it, i only have one song encoded in mpc
[08:40] <kenny> what does what do?
[08:41] <kenny> may i be able to convert the mpc to ogg
[08:42] <paulproteus> Anyone here use Jabber?  I'm trying to test my new Jabber ID, paulproteus@unstable.nl .  It'd be great if someone would IM me so I know it's all working.
[08:43] <malin> I installed quodlibet [from .tar.gz, there wasn't a packet in repository]  and when i want to run it, nothing happens
[08:43] <malin> am i doing something wrong?
[08:43] <paulproteus> kenny: You should convert the MPC to FLAC and let that be that.
[08:43] <paulproteus> malin: You should install it from Breezy.
[08:43] <paulproteus> That's the easiest way.
[08:43] <haakonn> paulproteus: i think you can add eliza@unstable.nl, it's a chat bot :)
[08:43] <kenny> What do i need to convert it, muse-tools aint in apt either
[08:43] <malin> can you tell me a bit more about breezy?
[08:43] <kenny> i guess mplayer could do it
[08:44] <iiiears> ubotu breezy is?
[08:44] <ubotu> iiiears: Wish i knew
[08:44] <iiiears> ubotu breezy
[08:44] <ubotu> [breezy]  the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[08:44] <paulproteus> haakonn: Okay, that's a start; I want to make sure inter-domain routing works, too, though.
[08:44] <malin> hm
[08:44] <paulproteus> malin: Go to packages.ubuntu.com, find quodlibet, and install the package from Breezy.
[08:44] <poe-t> hi! did anyone successfully restricted FreWnn server to localhost only in ubuntu?
[08:44] <paulproteus> It will probably require dependencies you don't have.
[08:44] <paulproteus> That's okay, then use Synaptic or aptitude to install the dependencies.
[08:45] <paulproteus> And then quodlibet should work fine.
[08:45] <WindowsDependant> hello linux won't recognize my printer
[08:45] <kenny> i have Musepack (MPC) format library can i use that
[08:46] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, http://localhost:631
[08:46] <moire> hi
[08:46] <WindowsDependant> can i just take all the files off of the cd and put them in my home dir?
[08:46] <moire> is the packet gnome-audio corrupt?
[08:46] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: what is that?
[08:47] <adriyel> hi everyone
[08:47] <WindowsDependant> can i get some help with my printer?
[08:47] <WindowsDependant> should i use ndiswrapper?
[08:47] <^guy27> i want to install ubuntu on an existing windows xp partition. The only way is to partition it by partition magic?
[08:48] <WindowsDependant> yes if you have the entire drive being used by windows
[08:48] <jpfarias> hello? is there any links on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:48] <moire> guy27: no, you can change the partitions on startup of the install script :)
[08:48] <^guy27> ic tought maybe there was another way
[08:48] <adriyel> guy27, you can use qtparted to resize the NTFS partition
[08:48] <adriyel> it will let you create room for Linux
[08:49] <SAMU> can you resize an NTFS partition during the install process?
[08:49] <adriyel> I don't think so, no
[08:49] <adriyel> #ubuntu doesn't use qtparted
[08:49] <adriyel> erm, ubuntu
[08:49] <adriyel> lol
[08:49] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, oh.. they moved it to System > Administer > Printing in gnome
[08:49] <^guy27> ok understood
[08:49] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: what about it?
[08:49] <SAMU> is qtparted a windows program then?
[08:49] <^guy27> so the only is by partition magic
[08:50] <adriyel> ^guy27, no its not
[08:50] <^guy27> the only way
[08:50] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, setup your printer thru gnome configuration dialogue
[08:50] <tristanmike> SAMU, are installing Hoary?
[08:50] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: ok
[08:50] <SAMU> tristanmike, im planning to put it on my laptop after i can backup all the necessary files
[08:50] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: brb
[08:51] <tristanmike> SAMU, on a PC laptop i assume
[08:51] <iiiears> "Volume Control" toggle "Capture from audio device" - Where is the audio file saved?
[08:51] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, up2date printing system is "cups". it has a huge database of printers. should be ok
[08:51] <^guy27> i saw that qtparted is a partition magic clone
[08:51] <SAMU> tristanmike: im gonna do a dualboot and i am gonna use my laptops winXP "recovery" discs to reinstall windows first
[08:51] <jpfarias> hello? is there any links on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:52] <tristanmike> SAMU, the Hoary installer does do resizing
[08:52] <SAMU> im just not sure what options the recovery discs give you for setting the size of the partition
[08:52] <dooglus> how can I set up iptables to allow me to mount an smbfs partition?
[08:52] <dooglus> it seems to need a different port each time I do it.
[08:52] <WindowsDependant> also is there any reason why my ubuntu freezes ALOT!?
[08:52] <SAMU> i hear they reset your computer to the way it was when you got it. so i assume that means i will get a fresh XP install on a partition that fills the whole HD.
[08:52] <iiiears> Can i use a command to tell what files are open?
[08:53] <rob_p> dooglus:  this implies that you are running some sort of a firewall then?
[08:53] <dooglus> rob_p: Linux has a built in firewall
[08:53] <SAMU> but what i want to do is install windows on a smaller partition. and give the rest to ubuntu.
[08:53] <dooglus> rob_p: iptables is built into the kernel
[08:53] <tristanmike> SAMU, i don't have a laptop and have never delt with recovery disks, so I'm not sure, but the install does do partitioning if you wish
[08:53] <WindowsDependant> do u have anything important on ur windows partition right now?
[08:54] <WindowsDependant> what kind of a windows cd do u have? recovery cds or an actual windows xp cd
[08:54] <rob_p> dooglus:  Well, it has a tool (iptables) that is used for configuring the kernel's ability to filter packets, but by default there are no rules specified...
[08:54] <tristanmike> SAMU, i'll be interested in finding out your answer too because a laptop is my near future and this is actually one of the things that I was curious about.
[08:54] <SAMU> tristanmike, but if i have a 60GB HD and the XP partition is taking up the whole HD. can i resize that partition through the ubuntu installer. cant remember what options i got for partitionin when i installed on my desktop PC.
[08:54] <dooglus> rob_p: is it possible to specify a rule to allow me to mount smbfs shares?
[08:55] <iiiears> SAMU - Some have had great luck sharing a hard drive with windows. - installing ubuntu to a second drive seems better. no problems later when windows needs to be reinstalled
[08:55] <dooglus> rob_p: I already specified a rule to drop all incoming packets, but I want to be able to mount smb shares
[08:55] <SAMU> tristanmike, remember to ask me in the future then. I am just waiting for my DVD burner so i can backup what i need from this HD first.
[08:55] <rob_p> dooglus:  This means that unless you specifically set the policies and/or specified any rules to disallow, then there is no packet filtering going on.
[08:55] <SAMU> iiiears, yeah, but i only have on disk on this laptop. i have a dualboot on two drives on my desktop which works very nicely already.
[08:55] <tristanmike> SAMU, yes, you can resize with the Hoary installer, just be sure to scandisk/defrag first. As to the "recovery disks" I assume have been provide by the manufacturer, I've never seen one, so I don't know
[08:55] <rob_p> dooglus:  Oh, that explains it.
[08:56] <jpfarias> hey, guys, is there any links on how to solve that bug java applets about libfontmanager.so?
[08:56] <WindowsDependant> SAMU: who are the cds from hp?
[08:56] <josch> hi
[08:56] <SAMU> its the ones i got with my acer travelmate 430
[08:56] <WindowsDependant> also what kind of mice do u guys have in here that work well with ubuntu?
[08:56] <josch> is there a german channel?
[08:56] <rob_p> dooglus:  Ok, the information you need is that windows networking uses ports 137-139 and port 445.
[08:56] <SAMU> i think they are supposed to prevent you from installing windows on any PC.
[08:56] <darkheart> !de
[08:56] <ubotu> hmm... de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[08:56] <josch> tnx
[08:57] <f_newton> quick question... is there a place to see what the upcoming apps to be included in breezy are?
[08:57] <josch> hatte _de
[08:57] <Nevado> anyone having trouble getting on the ubuntu forums?
[08:57] <WindowsDependant> anybody that is using ubuntu what kind of mouse do u have?\
[08:57] <WindowsDependant> and is it possible to use a serial mouse in ubuntu?
[08:57] <dooglus> rob_p: I see an incoming connection on port 33288.
[08:58] <dooglus> rob_p: this morning it was on port 33546.
[08:58] <dooglus> rob_p: it seems to keep changing.
[08:58] <Tripp> Hey, i'm new to linux, does anyone know how to install pengaol, aka penggy?
[08:58] <tristanmike> *cough*microsoft*cough* optical mouse
[08:58] <asfra> hi, I'm really hoping someone can give me a tips here :) I've just installed ubuntu on a machine I can't connect to the wireless network here. I therefor want to connect it to another machine which is connected to the internet so I can download some packages. How do I do this the easiest way?
[08:58] <benkong2> ubotu, why does ndiswrapper fail after a kernel upgrade? I have an AMD64 running 386 and wanted to use the k7 kernel but qemu and ndiswrapper went wild and the machine freezes when trying to display the desktop.
[08:58] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, benkong2
[08:58] <f_newton> asfra what wifi card are you using?
[08:58] <tristanmike> Nevado, forums are down
[08:58] <cavediver> Hi. How can I resize images within AbiWord? I can't drag it like is ms word...
[08:59] <benkong2> ubotu, ok
[08:59] <ubotu> Not a clue, benkong2
[08:59] <rob_p> dooglus:  That doesn't seem to correspond with anything I've ever seen relating to windows networking traffic...
[08:59] <f_newton> benkong2, every kernel is specific... you will have to reinstall ndiswrapper
[09:00] <malin> how do i install a .deb file i downloaded?
[09:00] <f_newton> dooglus that seems more to do with illegal traffic
[09:00] <f_newton> dpkg -i
[09:00] <f_newton> malin
[09:00] <asfra> f_newton: my wifi-card is working just fine on one machine. But I don't have a wifi-card on the other so I've connected them throught a cabel and want the machine without the wifi-card to connect to the internet througt the other... if you understand :)
[09:00] <benkong2> f_newton, that would be good but I can't get to the desktop...guess I could log in to a terminal and try to reinstall
[09:00] <Tripp> Anyone know how to install pengaol, anyone?
[09:00] <malin> thanks f_newton
[09:01] <f_newton> asfra... if you use a cat5 or 6 cable to connect to another machine directly without the use of a router you need a special patch cable
[09:01] <ompaul> benkong2, ubotu is the channel bot
[09:01] <WindowsDependant> can i use my microsoft serial mouse or does it have to be usb for linux?
[09:01] <ompaul> !ubotu
[09:01] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:01] <benkong2> ompaul, oops!! thanks
[09:01] <f_newton> yer welcome malin
[09:02] <WindowsDependant> is everyone here using a usb optical mouse?
[09:02] <benkong2> I use a wireless optical
[09:02] <WindowsDependant> poe-t: thanks it worked
[09:02] <rob_p> dooglus:  brb... gotta go get my food :-)
[09:02] <malin> paulproteus, imo it doesnt make sense installing quodlibet from breezy because it's older version than the one i tried installing from .tar.gz
[09:02] <GoClick> I've seen the wiki page on Java, I uncommended the line for the extras and planetmirror gave 404s, then I tried the ubuntuforums mirror and still can't find any packageswith j2re or sun- in the name
[09:03] <ompaul> ben_d, hardwiring to a network card System - Administration - Networking might just be what you are looking at
[09:03] <WindowsDependant> does it have to be wireless or usb?
[09:03] <poe-t> WindowsDependant, welcome ;-)
[09:03] <ompaul> ben_d, sorry wrong spy
[09:03] <WindowsDependant> i can't get my serial mouse to work
[09:03] <ompaul> benkong2, , hardwiring to a network card System - Administration - Networking might just be what you are looking for
[09:03] <Rockett18> !get java on i386
[09:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, get java on i386 is 'wget -c http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb', then 'sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb'
[09:03] <f_newton> I am just looking for a package list for breezy
[09:03] <f_newton> ...
[09:03] <asfra> f_newton: my cabel says cat5 patched, does that work? I have others as well, haven't looke at the yet
[09:04] <WindowsDependant> i just got a compaq optical and i think it causes ubuntu to lock up alot
[09:04] <WindowsDependant> i keep hearing that annoying tone it makes all the time until it is unlocked
[09:04] <f_newton> asfra I forget which pins need to be switched but you cannot just plug two nics together
[09:04] <f_newton> use a router
[09:05] <benkong2> ompaul, ??? wlan in linux has given me problems on this laptop. ex. in the office i can make it work by manual config. then when i go home still have to manual config for home.
[09:05] <ompaul> WindowsDependant, if it did not before and it does now most likely it is a hardware issue - maybe click on system - preferences - mouse might help
[09:05] <WindowsDependant> ok i'll check
[09:05] <benkong2> I used the unoffical hoary cd and got java
[09:06] <poe-t> is there any # for Japanese users of ubuntu ?
[09:06] <asfra> f_newton: cables that work to connect to computers in windows will work in ubuntu as well, right? Assuming I have a calbe that work, what do I do then? both machines run ubuntu
[09:06] <benkong2> WindowsDependant, I have a logitech cordless optical mouse and it works flawlessly
[09:07] <benkong2> WindowsDependant, has 2 parts the optical mouse and the usd transmitter or reciever
[09:07] <HappyFool> poe-t: doesn't look like it (it would probably be #ubuntu-jp if there were one)
[09:07] <darkheart> HappyFool I think it would be ja actually =)
[09:07] <ompaul> benkong2, I read that as how to connect to another computer without wireless as it did not work, I am sorry to have to say I know very little about wireless at this time
[09:07] <HappyFool> darkheart: doh!
[09:07] <ompaul> !wireless
[09:07] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:07] <Tripp> Ok, I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and it rusn perfect, but the only internet connection I have is aol.  In order to use that connection I have to install a program called pengaol, because linux does'nt use the same dialup settings or something.  Does anyone know how to install pengaol?
[09:07] <GoClick> Rockett18, I've tried to install Java per the instruction on the site, HOWEVER Synaptic can't find the packages
[09:08] <Nevado> forums are back up now
[09:08] <ompaul> benkong2, maybe that link by ubotu might help
[09:08] <ray_> sudo apt-get install pengaol
[09:08] <benkong2> ompaul, ok. The problem for me is moving from one wireless AP to another. checking the ubotu link now. :-)
[09:08] <Tripp> I tried that last night from another guy, but he had to go to work, and it did'nt work.
[09:09] <WindowsDependant> benkong2: so do u think i should go wireless?
[09:09] <WindowsDependant> !pengaol
[09:09] <ubotu> WindowsDependant: I don't know
[09:10] <benkong2> WindowsDependant, that is a personal decision. I have an HP zv5000 AMD 64 3200+ laptop and it works for me just that one hassle.
[09:10] <benkong2> However I am trying to write a script that handles it for me. Since I know all of the essid, passpharses etc.
[09:10] <WindowsDependant> well i think my new mouse is causing problems b/c it locks up a lot with it
[09:10] <ompaul> Tripp, that might be 'sudo apt-get install penggy' I found it by using the command 'apt-cache search aol' and it looks like the best candidate
[09:10] <WindowsDependant> benkong2: can i use a serial mouse?
[09:11] <benkong2> If your machine supports it. probably hard to find one
[09:11] <ompaul> WindowsDependant, you should have no problems using a serial mouse
[09:11] <WindowsDependant> well i do
[09:11] <olivier__> bonjour a tous
[09:11] <WindowsDependant> linux won't move the mouse
[09:11] <WindowsDependant> it stays in the center of the screen
[09:11] <zenlunatic> should any usb flash based mp3 player work in ubuntu?
[09:11] <Belutz> ompaul: is it possible to create a custom install cd of ubuntu?
[09:11] <ompaul> olivier__, pour vous, #ubuntu-fr here is english
[09:12] <ompaul> Belutz, I believe that it is, have a look at the guys on the beatrix project
[09:12] <Belutz> ompaul: do you have an url?
[09:13] <ompaul> Belutz, it is here  http://www.watsky.net/    <--- rather nice very small and what turned me onto ubuntu in the first place :)
[09:13] <Belutz> ompaul: thx a lot :)
[09:13] <ompaul> Belutz, enjoy
[09:13] <h08817> is python beneficial to know?
[09:14] <h08817> or should u just learn c++
[09:14] <paulproteus> h08817: Yes. :)
[09:14] <paulproteus> Python.
[09:14] <ompaul> h08817, it is if you want to learn to program, I seem to remember this conversation the other evening
[09:14] <h08817> www.python.org for tuts?
[09:14] <ompaul> yes
[09:14] <h08817> ompaul: lol yes i wanna learn
[09:15] <h08817> i am just now choosing python for the language i wanna start with
[09:15] <asfra> Can someone help me connect one computer to the internet throught another?? thanks
[09:15] <asfra> both running ubuntu..
[09:15] <h08817> explain what u have as far as how u are connecting them
[09:15] <ompaul> h08817, have a look at the names of the online materials that are pointed to in the channel #python
[09:16] <h08817> wow there are really tons of channels on this server
[09:16] <barongas> asfra: What like file transfer?
[09:16] <kenny> srry im back
[09:16] <ompaul> asfra, a crossover cable for one to go to the other network card to network card is one option - two of them attached to a router / hub /switch with standard networking cables is another possible way
[09:17] <kenny> i have Musepack (MPC) format library can i use that to convert mpc to ogg
[09:17] <asfra> barongas: I've just installed ubuntu on one of them, and I need additional packages.. the packages are on the other computer so perhaps I don't need internet? can apt fix this?
[09:18] <ray_> anybody connect to aol in here
[09:18] <asfra> ompaul: cant I just connect them directly together.. I have to cables, I think atleas on of them is crossed
[09:19] <zenlunatic> anyone use an ipod shuffle in ubuntu?
[09:20] <ompaul> ray_  'sudo apt-get install penggy' may help you a lot with that aol stuff
[09:20] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: not under ubuntu bu another debian
[09:20] <PhoenixDPI> whats the prob?
[09:21] <zenlunatic> PhoenixDPI: well im in the markey for a flash mp3 player and i want to know do they all work in linux or what
[09:21] <ompaul> asfra, if you have a crossover cable you need to enable the ethernet cards and then use scp to get the .deb files from one to another
[09:21] <ray_> ompaul: thank you...im on cable but trying to help someone
[09:21] <ompaul> ray_, well then that may help them :)
[09:21] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: the shuffle works fine for me since it's supported by gtkpod
[09:22] <ray_> ompaul: i bet it will ..he was trying to compile the source of that file....except it was called peng and when i searched the repos for it i couldnt find it
[09:22] <zenlunatic> PhoenixDPI: i think ill get one with ogg support though
[09:22] <asfra> ompaul: yeah, thanks! what is scp?
[09:23] <ompaul> ray_ apt-cache search aol is they way forward there :)
[09:23] <ray_> thanks
[09:23] <ompaul> asfra, secure copy
[09:23] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: well, why not
[09:23] <zenlunatic> PhoenixDPI: if only they had mpc support
[09:24] <ompaul> asfra, you may find this url useful  http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/help/tutorials/scp/
[09:24] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: your on a special model or brand?
[09:24] <zenlunatic> PhoenixDPI: the iaudio u2 looks nice
[09:24] <barongas> Any package that supports windows media files?
[09:25] <Rockett18> w32codecs is on backports
[09:25] <zenlunatic> barongas: not vlc
[09:25] <sorush20> guys what program do I use to get CPU temperature and speed
[09:25] <barongas> Cool thanks
[09:25] <ompaul> are we going to get colony 4 ?
[09:25] <PhoenixDPI> zenlunatic: for me the creative zen series sounds nice
[09:26] <zenlunatic> sorush20: i think there is some command line stuff but also gkrellm
[09:26] <Deep6> how is breezy ...is it installable yet?
[09:26] <Deep6> I have no idea what state it is in..
[09:26] <Brad_c> server irc.ballistixnet.com
[09:26] <tristanmike> Deep6, .....installable but still broken
[09:26] <Brad_c> oops
[09:26] <ray_> ompaul: is there a gui he could use?
[09:26] <ompaul> ray_, no idea
[09:26] <infernall> Anyone else experiencing lockups with the nvidia drivers?
[09:27] <infernall> I am stuck using the gpl nv driver, which doesnt support dual displays
[09:27] <kevman> Hey, whever I do a apt-get update, I am getting this error at the end:
[09:27] <kevman> Oh, wait. nvm.
[09:27] <poe-t> kevman, wjar kind of error?
[09:27] <ompaul> ray_, suggest searches with the following text in them on google and then ferret out what you need  penggy gui ubuntu debian and see what falls out of the sky :)
[09:27] <poe-t> oh
[09:28] <Deep6> tristanmike, what is brokenish?
[09:28] <kevman> I'm trying to use apt to upgrade from Warty to Hoary, but some packages seem to be 404...
[09:28] <apokryphos> !upgrade
[09:28] <ubotu> it has been said that upgrade is "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[09:29] <tristanmike> Deep6, still alot of bugs, but apparently it's installable
[09:29] <Deep6> hrmm I might have to try it this evening
[09:29] <tristanmike> Deep6, I'm just gonna wait till october
[09:29] <h08817> can linux extract .zip files?
[09:29] <ntoll> h08817, yes
[09:29] <kevman> Well, I did all that, but some packages are missing from the servers.
[09:29] <ntoll> unzip
[09:29] <h08817> what command?
[09:30] <ntoll> see above
[09:30] <h08817> or can i just use the archive manager?
[09:30] <apokryphos> Breezy is fairly stable at the moment
[09:30] <kevman> "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org-dictionaries/myspell-en-gb_20030813-3ubuntu1_all.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] "
[09:30] <h08817> ok thanks
[09:30] <apokryphos> kevman: make sure you sudo apt-get update first
[09:30] <poe-t> kevman, server down. so?
[09:30] <apokryphos> poe-t: the server is not down
[09:31] <kevman> Well, why the hell are needed packages missing?
[09:31] <kevman> I did do apt-get update. 3 times.
[09:31] <apokryphos> kevman: who said they were? The names could've changed
[09:31] <kevman> Well, then, how do I tell that to apt?
[09:32] <kevman> I would think apt-get update would fix that.
[09:32] <apokryphos> apt-get update *should*, in theory, resolve that
[09:32] <apokryphos> are you doing dist-upgrade?
[09:32] <kevman> Yes.
[09:33] <apokryphos> kevman: are you getting that for many packages or only for that one?
[09:33] <kevman> apokryphos, total of 2.
[09:33] <jedistar> I think I might have accidently deleted the pane that programs minize to... for example before If i minimized firefox it will be visible on the bar... now it just disapears
[09:33] <apokryphos> it might be worth installing those manually then, for now. In theory it should all go smoothly
[09:34] <kevman> That and... http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org-dictionaries/myspell-en-gb_20030813-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:34] <kevman> apokryphos, how does one install packages manually?
[09:34] <jedistar> anyone know how can I get it back?
[09:34] <apokryphos> kevman: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org-dictionaries/
[09:35] <apokryphos> kevman: actually, the best way is to get it from packages.ubuntu.com
[09:35] <Xappe> jedistar: the applet is called window-list
[09:36] <kevman> apokryphos, what do I do? Or where do I go for instruction?
[09:36] <eliphas_> what can make some sites I can't open them ?
[09:36] <eliphas_> like google
[09:37] <apokryphos> kevman: go there and go to Browse... Hoary. Your stuff would be under Text Processing
[09:37] <guessing> I am having trouble while installing nvidia drivers
[09:38] <guessing> somebody can help me?
[09:38] <apokryphos> kevman: i.e. your first one: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/text/myspell-en-gb
[09:38] <simonvallore_> hello
[09:38] <apokryphos> guessing: state the problem, and maybe someone can help
[09:38] <simonvallore_> how do i stick a file into my root directory
[09:39] <apokryphos> simonvallore_: you'll need root permissions
[09:39] <apokryphos> so sudo
[09:39] <simonvallore_> ok
[09:39] <guessing> It couldn't find the precompiled kernel?
[09:39] <simonvallore_> im in root consol
[09:39] <guessing> It couldn't find the precompiled kernel!
[09:40] <ompaul> !tell guessing about nvidia
[09:40] <jebem> how can i find my packages with synaptic when they are in the desktop?
[09:40] <Benjamin_L> sorry if this has been asked a thound times, but is there an esay way to get themes back in latest breezy ?
[09:40] <kevman> apokryphos, once I get the .debs, what do I do with them?
[09:41] <apokryphos> kevman: sudo dpkg -i {package}
[09:41] <simonvallore_> how do i stick a file into my root directory
[09:41] <thespiritoftal> anyone who can help me?my ubuntu works so slow..I thought maybe it was because of gnome and my ram but I installed debian with gnome.. it worked just fine.. can someone guess why it is? may the screen settings cause that?
[09:41] <priest> is the nforce 3 chipet well supported in the linux kernel? like sata and lan?
[09:41] <apokryphos> simonvallore_: sudo mv /some/location/somefile /.
[09:41] <benkong2> how do I get sources for the 2.6.10-k7 kernel only image and headers available in synaptic?
[09:42] <Benjamin_L> does anyone experience problems with themes in latest breezy ?
[09:43] <uthini> benkong2, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[09:43] <benkong2> uthini, thanks
[09:43] <uthini> np
[09:45] <kevman> apt-get happily contunies....
[09:46] <reiki_work> ok... I'm *convinced* now that most of the kids AND their parents that are starting college this week are a pack of idiots and I have no idea how such clueless morons got accepted
[09:46] <reiki_work> :)
[09:46] <jpfarias> hey people
[09:46] <guessing> ubotu, please send me the link again, I closed the window by mistake
[09:46] <ubotu> guessing: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:46] <jpfarias> how do I downgrade a package to a previous version?
[09:47] <Rockett18> guessing> is a bot
[09:47] <Rockett18> ubotu^
[09:47] <zevets> hi, I need the kernel source so I can install the nvidia drivers?
[09:47] <Ex-Cyber> !tell guessing about nvidia
[09:47] <guessing> didn't you send my some links about nvidia drivers?
[09:47] <zevets> where can I get it?
[09:47] <guessing> ubotu,  ty
[09:47] <ubotu> No idea, guessing
[09:47] <Ex-Cyber> guessing: someone told it to earlier with the command I just pasted :)
[09:47] <Rockett18> !nvidia
[09:47] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia
[09:47] <jpfarias> hey, how do I downgrade a package to a previous version?
[09:47] <zevets> thakns
[09:48] <uthini> lol Rockett18
[09:48] <Rockett18> im out
[09:49] <kevman> "Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:49] <kevman>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kmail_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu10_i386.deb
[09:49] <kevman> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[09:49] <reiki_work> I came i drunk one night and carried on a long conversation with a giant stuffed animal that my little brother won at the fair. :)
[09:49] <uthini> zevets, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[09:49] <uthini> if thats your kernel version
[09:49] <guessing> thanks everybody
[09:50] <kevman> That error above... Is something running that is stopping apt from working?
[09:50] <uthini> kevman, anything further than the error code?
[09:51] <zevets> uthini, I wasn't using the package that comes with this
[09:51] <zevets> but thx anyway
[09:51] <kevman> uthini, I'll paste the whole thing in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:52] <kevman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1586
[09:52] <NoHope> hello all
[09:53] <haja> I just reinstalled Ubuntu and I have a vfat partition. I go to access it and it can't get to it. When I login to my windows installation it sees the drive. Anyone got any clue?
[09:54] <pestilence> is there any way to revert a package back to the original configuration files?
[09:54] <arauzo> hello
[09:55] <pestilence> (without removing the package)
[09:55] <paulproteus> pestilence: dpkg --purge package ; apt-get install
[09:55] <paulproteus> pestilence: Oh.
[09:55] <arauzo> how can i change file types and programs associations????
[09:55] <paulproteus> pestilence: dpkg --reinstall ...?
[09:55] <pestilence> paulproteus: yea, but that causes all sorts of problems due to dependencies
[09:55] <pestilence> paulproteus: hmm.
[09:55] <paulproteus> pestilence: That's safe.  Watch this:
[09:55] <pestilence> paulproteus: didn't think that would overwrite configuration
[09:55] <poe-t> arauzo, done thru your window manager, I guess
[09:55] <paulproteus> dpkg --purge --force-deps packagename
[09:55] <paulproteus> apt-get -f install
[09:55] <arauzo> pestilence: dpkg-reinstall
[09:55] <paulproteus> Then apt-get should bring it back.
[09:56] <kevman> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1586 <- any idea about this error?
[09:56] <arauzo> pestilence: sorry dpkg-reconfigure
[09:56] <eliphas_> what port do I need to pen to use gaim ?
[09:56] <eliphas_> open
[09:56] <paulproteus> eliphas_: Uh, it just works.
[09:57] <arauzo> eliphas_: depends on the network you want to use
[09:57] <eliphas_> msn
[09:57] <arauzo> so you need to find which ports msn uses...
[09:58] <silentigger> mp3 in ubuntu?
[09:58] <thespiritoftal> what is the command to move a directory to another folder and overwrite the directory with the same name in that folder?
[09:58] <Seveas> !mp3
[09:58] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:58] <Seveas> ^-- silentigger
[09:59] <kevman> eliphas_, msn is port 1863
[09:59] <eliphas_> kevman thanks
[09:59] <apokryphos> thespiritoftal: mv -r
[09:59] <eliphas_> because for some reason i cna't manage to reach google
[09:59] <apokryphos> -rf
[09:59] <silentigger> Seveas, yes
[09:59] <eliphas_> my routeur is weird
[09:59] <kevman> No ideas?
[10:00] <arauzo> eliphas_: more info at: http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~rakerman/port-table.html
[10:00] <silentigger> Seveas, can i mp3 player?
[10:01] <keksladen> nabend
[10:02] <Logi_> if i want to install apache 1.3 with php4, and mysql... what are the packages that i ned
[10:02] <RootX|Arphetic> hello
[10:02] <mihai> where in /dev is the path to eth0 ?
[10:02] <silentigger> my AirPort ubuntu not support
[10:02] <RootX|Arphetic> I would like to know the name of the tiny linux distro, something like ... tomsrtr or so?
[10:03] <uthini> Logi_, apt will read the dependancies for you
[10:03] <keksladen> i've got a problem with ubuntu.. (i've installed it today) i cant login with root because i dont know the password..
[10:03] <haja> I just reinstalled Ubuntu on a ext3 parittion. I also have a vfat partition. When I try to access it in Linux I can't get to it. Do I need to remount it?
[10:03] <mihai> tomsrtr ? lol
[10:03] <Logi_> uthini..?
[10:03] <keksladen> i made a user and i can login with this user, but not with root...
[10:03] <Logi_> what do you mean?
[10:03] <Seveas> !root
[10:03] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:04] <telemaco> is there any way for install ubuntu from usb-hard-disk ?
[10:04] <Seveas> ^-- keksladen read that
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> keksladen, try ure user pasword
[10:04] <mihai> where in /dev is the path to eth0 ?
[10:04] <keksladen> thx
[10:04] <Seveas> ubuntu by default has no root password
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> keksladen, that's what it was on mine
[10:04] <uthini> Logi_, you know about apt_get?
[10:04] <Logi_> uthini, yeah
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> tho i'd made a typo when settign my password, n i made it twice so i couldn#'t log in for a fair while, lol
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, why did mine then?
[10:04] <CookedGryphon> i tried typing nothing but it didn't work
[10:05] <uthini> it also reads the dependancies (what other packages are needed by the package) and prompts to install
[10:05] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, login in the recovery mode
[10:05] <Logi_> uthini, i had apache2 on my machine.. but it wouldnt allow for certain things to work... so i still have php4, and mysql on my computer... they just arent configured
[10:05] <mihai> can somebody tell me the full path to eth0 in /dev ?
[10:05] <Seveas> that will give you a root login without entering a password
[10:05] <CookedGryphon> its ok i don't have the problem now
[10:05] <silentigger> ubuntu powerpc
[10:05] <Logi_> uthini, i also have apache1.3 on it too.. but it wont recognize the .php extension
[10:05] <_liquidfire> [22:04]  <_liquidfire> I just installed abc-bittorent client with the deb package
[10:05] <_liquidfire> [22:04]  <_liquidfire> Where can I find where he installed the program
[10:05] <_liquidfire> [22:04]  <_liquidfire> It doesn't appear in any menu listing
[10:05] <Seveas> mihai, why do you need to know
[10:05] <_liquidfire> :/
[10:05] <CookedGryphon> Seveas, i typed in random stuff n it let me in after a while, whereby i hastily ran passwd
[10:06] <ray_> !find penggy
[10:06] <RogerD> hello everyone - Does anyone know how to RESIZE a partition.   I looked at GPARTED, however I want to resize the active "/" partition from 40GB to 30GB.   HELP!!!!
[10:06] <ubotu> penggy: (Allows you to connect to AOL via modem or TCP/IP), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.2.1-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 70 kB, Installed size: 332 kB
[10:06] <RogerD> :)
[10:06] <Seveas> don't paste!
[10:06] <uthini> Logi_, have u done the config'ing apache
[10:06] <_liquidfire> :(?
[10:06] <silentigger> liquidfire, opa
[10:06] <mihai> Seveas, so i can configure an xfce plugin to show net-usage
[10:06] <_liquidfire> its only 3 lines :o?
[10:06] <silentigger> liquidfire, lucas mendes
[10:06] <Logi_> uthini, that's really what i need to know how to do... cause i cant find the correct documentation on it... everything is done for apache2 now...
[10:06] <Logi_> uthini, which isnt stable enough for my liking..
[10:06] <Seveas> mihai, that shoult just need eth0 not something in /dev
[10:06] <haja> I just reinstalled Ubuntu on a ext3 parittion. I also have a vfat partition for files. When I try to access it in Linux I can't get to it. Do I need to remount it?
[10:06] <michelp> I'm not so good at this package thing, I read the man page for sources.list but I'm still getting an error, I want to install the software and I use syntaptic to add the repository "deb http://download.librdf.org/binaries/ubuntu/hoary/" but it doesn't show up in the repo list and if I add it to source.list my self I get an error.  nayone know the right syntax?
[10:07] <Seveas> haja: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[10:07] <silentigger> Seveas, hi
[10:07] <mihai> Seveas, thanks, it works :)
[10:07] <jkindy> what can i use to write HTML?
[10:07] <haja> ohhh
[10:07] <silentigger> Seveas, do you help-me?
[10:07] <Seveas> michelp, you need to add a path to that list
[10:07] <pestilence> paulproteus: your dpkg --purge --force-depends seems to be exactly what i wanted.  thanks!
[10:07] <Logi_> jkindy, gedit
[10:07] <haja> thanks Seveas
[10:07] <Seveas> probably just ' ./' (without the quotes)
[10:07] <jkindy> is gedit on ubuntu allready
[10:07] <michelp> Seveas ok i'll try that thanks
[10:07] <silentigger> can you help-me?
[10:07] <Seveas> silentigger, did you read that page I sent you?
[10:07] <Logi_> jkindy, yeah
[10:08] <jkindy> thanks
[10:08] <silentigger> Seveas, ok
[10:08] <Hoxzer> what is the good software for ubuntu for make of music
[10:08] <silentigger> Seveas, ubuntu for powerpc
[10:08] <michelp> Seveas, sweet it works!
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> Hoxzer, beep-media-player is best n easiest, in my hunmble opinion
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> oh make
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> buger, i'll sthu up
[10:09] <CookedGryphon> shut*
[10:09] <Seveas> :)
[10:09] <Logi_> uthini, do you know what i have to do
[10:10] <jkindy> can i get aim sniff from apt-get?
[10:10] <wae2go> !java
[10:10] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:10] <Seveas> wae2go, the repositories in these instructions are down
[10:11] <Seveas> wae2go, gar a deb from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:11] <Seveas> grab a deb*
[10:11] <haja> Thanks again seveas.... worked perfectly
[10:12] <Bixmark> can I type this: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Applications -> Run Applications?
[10:12] <_liquidfire> sorry for the paste :/
[10:12] <Seveas> Bixmark, only if you tick 'run in console'
[10:12] <Seveas> otherwise do: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:12] <Bixmark> thanx seveas
[10:12] <_liquidfire> But anybody has an idea about my problem? I installed ABC using the debian package but i have no clue how to start it since i don't see any ABC buttons in any of my menu listings
[10:13] <Bixmark> is that the only place where you can type in that sudo command?
[10:13] <Seveas> dpkg -L abc-bla (put the actual package name there)
[10:13] <Seveas> that shows where it is installed
[10:13] <Seveas> Bixmark, you can write it in any terminal too
[10:13] <arauzo> how can i change file types and programs associations??
[10:14] <Seveas> !default
[10:14] <ubotu> Seveas: I give up, what is it?
[10:14] <Seveas> dang
[10:14] <Seveas> !defaults
[10:14] <ubotu> Seveas: Do they come in packets of five?
 tomsrtr ? lol <- it was tomsrtbt
[10:14] <Seveas> arauzo, rightclick on a file, seclect properties. Third tab 'open with'
[10:14] <black13> has anyone built a boot floppy that uses a 2.6 kernel?
[10:15] <arauzo> Seveas, but I want to make it permanent
[10:15] <Logi_> uthini, do you know what i have to do?
[10:15] <Seveas> arauzo, THAT makes it permanent
[10:15] <selinium> Seveas: Do you ever sleep?
[10:15] <selinium> :)
[10:15] <Seveas> selecting open with from the right click menu not
[10:15] <Seveas> selinium, hardly :)
[10:16] <wae2go> anyone know where backports is now?  I need to install java?
[10:16] <arauzo> it is not working for me
[10:16] <CookedGryphon> !java
[10:16] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:16] <CookedGryphon> yah! been dying to use that lol
[10:16] <wae2go> ok... is anyone more up to date then ubotu?
[10:16] <arauzo> isn't there any place where i could edit the types???
[10:17] <Seveas> wae2go, I just told you where you could grab a deb...
[10:17] <snoopy> hi people
[10:17] <clatta> does anyone know how to uninstall ati drivers and restore the original ones coming with the installation cd?
[10:17] <wae2go> didnt see it Seveas, where was it?
[10:17] <Seveas> wae2go, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:17] <jkindy> once i download a mp3 from limewire i cant get it to play outside of limewire and programs that will let me play it with out opeing up limewire?
[10:17] <uthini> Logi_, i knew once, back in 2002
[10:17] <uthini> lol
[10:17] <wae2go> kewl thanks
[10:18] <uthini> long since forgot
[10:18] <Lichte> how do I get gnome-db widgets for glade in Ubuntu ?
[10:19] <wae2go> seveas whats with all the backports urls not existing any longer?
[10:19] <Lichte> I've installed all the gnome-db stuff I can find
[10:19] <Seveas> wae2go, ENOCLUE
[10:19] <Logi_> uthini, boo...
[10:19] <wae2go> uh ok...
[10:19] <uthini> i remember it being in the httpd.conf
[10:19] <reiki_work> is it against any "rules" to use the Ubuntu logo on a web site when talking about how great it is? :)
[10:19] <uthini> or summin like that
[10:20] <Seveas> reiki_work, no
[10:20] <uthini> gottta add lines to make apache recognise php
[10:20] <Seveas> reiki_work, best ubuntu logo i've seen so far: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ubuntu-logo.png
[10:21] <Seveas> uthini, a2enmod php4
[10:21] <Seveas> (if you installed libapache2-mod-php4
[10:21] <uthini> see
[10:21] <uthini> Seveas, knows
[10:21] <wae2go> I am installing a lot of "work at home" workstations for a group of jr high kids and they all need to be able to access the same things.  The last couple of days getting the required packages has been hard to do
[10:21] <GameCat> hi, van someone tell me how to stop mysqdld from running at startup? i don't really want to go messing in the init stuff by hand...
[10:22] <pestilence> GameCat: update-rc.d -f mysql remove
[10:23] <Lichte> will the new services app in Gnome 2.12 work with Ubuntu ?
[10:23] <haja> Whats the package name for sunjava?
[10:23] <GameCat> pestilence: thats great, thanks, worked a treat
[10:24] <McGuinness> Hiy, anyone know what "Ignoring unknown interface sit0=sit0." means? (its supposed to be my wireless card... ;/
[10:24] <_liquidfire> Thanks Seveas, i got it working
[10:24] <reiki_work> Seveas: thank you much... I've now... uh... "borrowed" that graphic for later use. :)
[10:26] <carambol> is it possible to enter Home with the keybaord?
[10:28] <juanej> how do i take a screenshot (.jpg) with a console command?
[10:28] <tag> Ok, so I've got a pretty default ubuntu setup
[10:28] <wae2go> seveas thanks a lot.... that worked, was that your own site?
[10:29] <tag> in debian defoma was setup so I could just mkdir ~/.fonts/ and throw fonts in there
[10:30] <tag> but I dunno, defoma seems not set up the same here
[10:30] <inferno30> Hello! Someone here who can help a newbie figure out what's wrong with his Ubuntu installation (error 21)?
[10:31] <arauzo> inferno30: error 21?
[10:31] <arauzo> give us more details
[10:31] <arauzo> when does it says that?
[10:31] <inferno30> after the first stage of installing
[10:31] <inferno30> it has to reboot
[10:31] <inferno30> and i find myself looking at the loading screen of that linux boot program thingy
[10:32] <inferno30> and error 21 appears
[10:32] <inferno30> I've got 3 disks, with the first disk windows 98, and the third disk ubuntu
[10:32] <arauzo> I am trying to use the check for video player at firefox from ubuntu with mplayer and mozilla-mplayer installed of: https://mysql.webex.com/mysql/mywebex/epmainframe.php?rlink=https%3A%2F%2Fmysql.webex.com%2Fmysql%2Fonstage%2Fmainframe.php%3Fmainurl%3D%2Fmysql%2Fonstage%2Ftool%2Fevent%2Fevent_detail.php%3FEventID%3D386586052%26FirstEnter%3D1%26GuestTimeZone%3D%26SourceId%3D&Rnd5824=0.6295580847809172
[10:32] <c0rrupt__> -.-
[10:33] <arauzo> inferno30: doesn't it says anything else?
[10:33] <Lichte> how do I get gnome-db widgets for glade in Ubuntu ?
[10:33] <NoUse> inferno30 does it say "grub error 21"
[10:34] <haon> I tried linux before with mandrake and gave up because I couldnt for the life of me get my wireless usb linksys network adapter to work, is there support for it with ubuntu?
[10:34] <Bixmark> how do I get the desktop back up after doing cntl-at-backspace ?
[10:34] <morbidi> Bixmark: it get's up auto
[10:34] <Bixmark> after I do cntrl-alt-backspace I get the command screen
[10:35] <Bixmark> like DOS screen
[10:35] <wae2go> haon you will probably have to use either madwifi or ndiswrapper
[10:35] <Wallan> Bixmark: Isn't it /etc/init.d/gdm restart ?
[10:36] <selinium> HI guys, i am looking to start coding an application to convert a dive computer log into a visual dive log. Never coded anything on linux. What language do you guys suggest?
[10:36] <haon> c++ i would presume
[10:36] <Wallan> Bixmark: Works for me, but I am new at this...
[10:36] <McGuinness> How come I cant open up some GUI programs in UBUNTU? for isntance, Im clicking :system;Administration;networking. It thinks for awhile, then nothing happens......
[10:37] <black13> selinium
[10:37] <selinium> haon: Cheers, have you used C++ and or Python?
[10:37] <noob523423> hi
[10:37] <black13> selinium who is going to view the log
[10:37] <selinium> black13: hi
[10:37] <noob523423> quick question: how do i boot without X?
[10:37] <selinium> black13: me
[10:38] <black13> or rater how is it goin to be view?
[10:38] <^thehatsrule^> use bootcode 2
[10:38] <^thehatsrule^> for clie
[10:38] <^thehatsrule^> cli*
[10:38] <^thehatsrule^> i.e. runlevel 2
[10:38] <selinium> black13: ON screen and also printed out for my logbook. People have to see it from time to time.
[10:38] <noob523423> that's what it is right now
[10:38] <zen> hi
[10:38] <noob523423> and it's still booting to X
[10:39] <^thehatsrule^> perhaps you didnt save?
[10:39] <black13> is the information in some hiearchical form?
[10:39] <thoron> http://www.worldpeace.org/peaceday.html
[10:39] <noob523423> i DID save
[10:39] <noob523423> 2 is the default
[10:39] <zevets> runlevel 3
[10:39] <selinium> black13: Not sure yet. But probably.
[10:39] <noob523423> i tried that too
[10:39] <zevets> type it into command line
[10:39] <black13> selinium so people means other than you?
[10:39] <zevets> wierd
[10:39] <zevets> worked for me
[10:39] <zen> where is 'i18n' in ubuntu?
[10:39] <black13> selinium think about xml
[10:39] <selinium> black13: Yes, in its printed form
[10:39] <persia> noob523423: either uninstall gdm, or remove the symlink in /etc/rc3.d
[10:39] <^thehatsrule^> try it on the append, in grub maybe
[10:39] <haon> are ubuntuforums down or is t my computer?
[10:39] <black13> i dont know your data or you application
[10:39] <noob523423> persia: how do i remove that symlink?
[10:40] <zevets> how do I set the resolution to 1280x1024?
[10:40] <zen> zevets > hello
[10:40] <zevets> hi
[10:41] <zevets> how do I set the resolution to 1280x1024?
[10:41] <^thehatsrule^> noob523423: use a # to comment it out
[10:41] <black13> but spending more time upfront means less time in back or pain in the back ... xml-izing your data means you could do more with what you have ... you could make a web app then you could point "others" to a website that would contain you logs
[10:41] <lexmark> how do I save changes in Nano using the terminal?
[10:41] <zevets> ctrl O?
[10:41] <zen> zevets > I'm just a newbi for ubuntu. I got a question. Could u help me ?
[10:42] <zevets> im a newb too
[10:42] <zevets> but sure
[10:42] <persia> noob523423: `sudo mv /etc/rc3.d/S??gdm /etc/rc3.d/K01gdm`
[10:42] <lexmark> yeah, ctrl O means writeout
[10:42] <zevets> thats save
[10:42] <zen> zevets > where is 'i18n'?
[10:42] <lexmark> not sure if that means save
[10:42] <zevets> no clue
[10:42] <zevets> its save lexmark
[10:42] <lexmark> ok thanx
[10:43] <zen> I couldn't find it in the dir '/etc/sysconfig'
[10:43] <zevets> np
[10:43] <zevets> I wouldn't know zen
[10:43] <zevets> im sry
[10:43] <zen> zevets> O, but thanks.
[10:43] <zevets> do you know how to change the resolution
[10:44] <noob523423> persia...rebooting right now
[10:44] <selinium> black13: cheers. There is an old program that does some of what i want here. http://pakuro.is.sci.toho-u.ac.jp/aladin/INSTALL-e.html
[10:44] <lexmark> zevets: you can try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:44] <QMario> How do I copy and paste a directory into a file owned by root using the terminal?
[10:44] <zen> and could something kindperson help me ?
[10:45] <QMario> Hello Seveas.
[10:45] <jkindy> is there a winzip program on ubuntu
[10:45] <QMario> Hello bob2! :)
[10:45] <QMario> Hello Ubotu!.
[10:45] <QMario> !Botsnack
[10:45] <ubotu> :)
[10:45] <selinium> black13: Great idea about the xml!
[10:45] <zen> zevets > where are u from ?
[10:45] <QMario> !themes
[10:45] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[10:46] <noob523423> persia: it worked... thanks!
[10:46] <zevets> md, why?
[10:46] <zevets> how do I change my resolution?
[10:46] <noob523423> okay.... another guestion: how do i install the kernel sources?
[10:46] <selinium> black13: I am a web programmer and i forget that you can use xml outside php!  :)
[10:46] <QMario> Lexmark, how do I copy and paste a directory into a file owned by root using the terminal?
[10:46] <QMario> !command
[10:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, QMario
[10:47] <QMario> !copy
[10:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, QMario
[10:47] <QMario> !paste
[10:47] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:47] <RogerD> Seveas: Thanks for your help yesterday (I was the guy that could not get root access)
[10:47] <zen> zevets> have u got any problem too?
[10:47] <zevets> yeah
[10:47] <zevets> I want to change my resolution to 1280 1024
[10:47] <zen> zevets > what's it?
[10:48] <wae2go> well this one is finished....
[10:48] <zevets> don't know how
[10:48] <persia> QMario: `sudo mv source destination` or `sudo cp -aRp source destination`
[10:48] <noob523423> i can't install nvidia drivers cause i don't have my kernel source installed it says... i need the latest ones that apt-get doesn't have yet cause i have a 7800 GTX
[10:48] <wae2go> every thing a teenager needs in a computer...
[10:48] <QMario>   Wae2go, how do I copy and paste a directory into a file owned by root using the terminal? 
[10:49] <QMario> Okay. Thank you persia.
[10:49] <zen> zevets > u can try to edit the file named initrd
[10:49] <QMario>  
[10:49] <zevets> cool
[10:49] <zevets> I will try
[10:49] <wae2go> uh QMario I guess you got answered?
[10:50] <IRCMonkey> quick question...  I just picked up an old macintosh 7600 with a g3/445 upgrade for $35.  Does anyone know if the PPC version of ubuntu will run on this?
[10:50] <ghais> hello everyone, who can I change the font size of tty(s)
[10:50] <zen> zevets > what's the desk ur using?
[10:50] <zevets> dunno
[10:50] <RogerD> I have the same question as IRCMonkey, only I have an 8600.   :D
[10:51] <QMario> How do I install a theme?
[10:51] <zen> zevets >what's that? I never hear it before. and mine is gnome
[10:51] <zevets> oh window manager
[10:51] <zevets> I use gnome
[10:51] <zevets> like all ubunut
[10:51] <zevets> brb
[10:51] <meff> quick q, i've been using debian sid for quite awhile and i am looking into ubuntu and i am wondering, if i am just going to update from hoary -> breezy anyways, is it ok to install from a colony test cd? is it the same?
[10:52] <Sparky> hey
[10:52] <Sparky> does anybody know how to format an ipod under linux?
[10:53] <zen> zevets > oh, u also can use the menu ,system->display->..
[10:53] <RogerD> Sparky: Does gtkpod have that ability?
[10:53] <floppyears> hi
[10:53] <RogerD> try it
[10:53] <floppyears> is there something like a script that I can use to turn .sxw files into .doc files?
[10:54] <zen> zevets > oh, u also can use the menu ,system->system management->display->..
[10:54] <Sparky> Rogerd: I'm not sure, I dont think so because I cant find a way
[10:54] <thespiritoftal> can i remove all the files that start with "index" in a certain directory with one command?
[10:54] <RogerD> Sparky: Did you try gtkpod?  or do you need help to get that?
[10:54] <persia> thespiritoftal: `rm directory/index*`
[10:54] <zen> sparky > hi
[10:54] <RogerD> Sparky: It should be in the universe or multiverse
[10:55] <QMario> Okay, I did it! :)
[10:55] <Sparky> RogerD: I have GTKpod, but I cant find an option to format the ipod
[10:55] <QMario> Thank you!
[10:55] <QMario> Hello Sparky! :)
[10:55] <Sparky> Hello qmario
[10:55] <Sparky> :)
[10:55] <zen> Sparky > I also got a question ,Could u help me ?
[10:55] <noob523423> is the kernel source on the install cd?
[10:55] <Sparky> sure
[10:55] <Sparky> I'm not that great with linux
[10:55] <hardw1re> hey, can someone tell me what this xFce desktop environment is? cause im trying it out now, i've never heard of it before....
[10:55] <Sparky> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=316932#post316932 heres more info on the problem
[10:56] <zen> Sparky > where is 'i18n'?
[10:56] <DekaPink> Hey all... I'm trying to resize my partitions with gparted from the Ubuntu live CD... and it says that I'm trying to resize an active partition when I try... What should I do? :3
[10:56] <RogerD> Sparky: If that does not work, you may need to get your fingers dirty with HFS. (apples file system)  you can download kernel modules to read/write HFS filesystems.   that's the "old school way" of doing it.   If there is a newer/better way.  I'm all ears
[10:56] <hardw1re> !xfce
[10:56] <ubotu> well, xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4". http://www.xfce.org/
[10:56] <sean_> xfce owns :p
[10:56] <hardw1re> yeah, steam runs without borders in it :D
[10:56] <RogerD> I think the ipods are still using HFS for their underlying file system
[10:56] <hardw1re> it seems rather quick and responsive too :D
[10:56] <sean_> oh its damn fast, i run a 333celeron /64mb ram, and its still pacey
[10:57] <thespiritoftal> and is there a way to remove all the files starting with index in a directory and all the files starting with index in the directories inside the first directory?
[10:57] <hardw1re> lol sean_
[10:57] <hardw1re> im on an amd 64. with 1GB of ram :P
[10:58] <sean_> hahaha, yeah man i feel like im antiquing
[10:58] <sean_> im a good test dummy for old hardware thou :p
[10:58] <DekaPink> Does anyone know what the deal might be? As far as I can tell, the partitions aren't mounted.
[10:58] <black13> selinium web apps make distrobution so much easier ... jut point to a url no software push
[10:58] <sean_> DekaPink, what type of partitions?
[10:58] <persia> thespiritoftal: `man regex` for an explanation of the wildcards (or maybe `man bash`.  For this, you might try `rm directory/*/index*`, but for more, you'd best take a look at the included docs.
[10:59] <DekaPink> sean_: My windows partition... I want to make it smaller so I can make my Ubuntu partition bigger.
[10:59] <andril> hello all again
[10:59] <DekaPink> So... ntfs and ext3
[10:59] <sean_> heh, thats a pain in the @$$ espically if u dont want to lose data
[10:59] <haon99> :/ My wireless usb adapter is broken
[10:59] <dalamar> or ass even
[10:59] <dalamar> ;)
[10:59] <RogerD> lol
[10:59] <sean_> hahah
[11:00] <andril> any problems with repositories? I just ran a reinstall and alot of packages are not installing (java,mozilla,and scuh)
[11:00] <haja> Does anyone know the java package name?
[11:00] <andril> haja, you too huh?
[11:00] <DekaPink> sean_: Blast~ xD
[11:00] <haja> yeah.... I just reinstalled ubuntu and can't get anything installed
[11:00] <selinium> black13: true but i still have to get the info out of my dive computer which means tranfsering it to the pc anyway. When its there it seems a bit strange to upload it. but in that you have given me another idea!
[11:00] <haja> Thought it was just me...
[11:00] <zen> DekaPink > u can use the tool named magic partition. it can make u wanted
[11:00] <RogerD> ok: so does anyone know how I can shrink down my Ubuntu partition.  Specifically I want to shrink my 40GB '/' partition down to 30GB.......
[11:01] <dalamar> you mean partition magic?
[11:01] <DekaPink> I guess I'll go do that.
[11:01] <RogerD> I tryied GPARTED, but it didn't seem to want to work.
[11:01] <sean_> partion magics handy :)
[11:01] <RogerD> I booted from the LIVE CD, apt-get'ed it, used it, no joy ..........
[11:01] <sean_> but its commercial
[11:01] <haja> I get a COuldn't Find Package error...?
[11:01] <sean_> and windows
[11:01] <haja> You too andril ?
[11:02] <klato> hey guys, i just ran the live cd and it seems to work ok (even detected me wireless =), but i can't seem to connect to anything, even though i specified my essid and WEP in the options...?
[11:02] <medamaybe> hi@all
[11:02] <RogerD> I do not have the NTFS headaches!!!   Just need to shrink a standard Linux partition (Ubuntu created)
[11:02] <andril> haja, yes I reinstalled on 2 pc's and no luck just errors because java is missing
[11:02] <zen> dalamar >perhaps!
[11:02] <klato> i'd look in the forums but i they seem to be down..
[11:03] <dalamar> they all knew what you meant ;)
[11:03] <neo78> allright folks...
[11:03] <neo78> bedtime for me...
[11:03] <medamaybe> does anyone have a suggestion on this? "meda is not in the sudoers file"?
[11:03] <medamaybe> goodnight neo
[11:03] <neo78> have to lecture a programming class eeeearly in the morning
[11:03] <dalamar> i think whatever site I was using for one of my repos pooped out because I can't seem to install amarok now
[11:04] <neo78> ciao
[11:04] <haja> Seems a lot of people are having problems with repos???
[11:04] <dalamar> for sure
[11:04] <RogerD> anyone?   shrink down my '/' partition?
[11:04] <RogerD> :)
[11:04] <haja> figures... just when I decide to reinstall
[11:04] <yaru22> universe and multiverse source list adding?
[11:04] <yaru22> what is it?
[11:05] <dalamar> !repos
[11:05] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:05] <hardw1re> anyone else using the cvs of aMSN?
[11:05] <sean_> yea i do
[11:06] <medamaybe> does anyone know how I get a user in the 'sudoers' file?
[11:06] <nakata> visudo
[11:06] <nakata> in a terminal
[11:06] <dalamar> medamaybe, are you using gnome?
[11:06] <medamaybe> yes, gnome
[11:06] <dalamar> system -> admin -> user and groups
[11:06] <parka> join #xfce-de
[11:06] <parka> upsa
[11:07] <medamaybe> omg...lol
[11:07] <medamaybe> I was trying to do it from the command line
[11:07] <dalamar> medamaybe, I always check for a pretty picture version first ;)
[11:07] <medamaybe> lol
[11:07] <dalamar> heh
[11:07] <medamaybe> "Child terminated with 1 status"
[11:08] <medamaybe> what's that all about?
[11:08] <no_dammagE> hi, can I remove all contents from /var/cache without fear (I have only 200 MB left on /) without fear?
[11:08] <dalamar> ? dunno thats what happened when you tried to run it?
[11:08] <no_dammagE> -without fear :)
[11:08] <medamaybe> when I tried to run it, it asked me to type in a password, I did
[11:08] <medamaybe> and that's what it said
[11:08] <black13> selinium what creates the data?
[11:09] <dalamar> medamaybe, then user your trying to use it with right now has sudo privilige right?
[11:09] <selinium> black13: A wrist mounted computer
[11:09] <medamaybe> no, the user I'm trying to use it with right now, NEEDS sudo privileges, but I can't get it to work
[11:10] <alllanon> Are the daily builds of Breezy known to be working?
[11:10] <dalamar> medamaybe, you do have A user with sudo though right? your going to need it to run the program
[11:10] <medamaybe> no..that's the problem
[11:10] <medamaybe> I don't know how to give sudo priviledges to a user
[11:10] <alllanon> medamaybe: is he in /etc/sudoers?
[11:10] <dalamar> you mean your main user doesn't have sudo privilege to begin with? thats not right
[11:10] <Seveas> alllanon, they are known to be working somtimes
[11:10] <medamaybe> hang on, I'll check
[11:11] <Sauron21> Hi...I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could get a ppp/mppe patch for ubuntu?
[11:11] <alllanon> Seveas: okay :]  I tried booting yesterday's iso three times today. different problem on every boot :}
[11:11] <medamaybe> only "root"  is in /etc/sudoers
[11:12] <TMS> I dont suppose anyone happen to know of an ipw2100 source with WPA support enabled?
[11:12] <alllanon> Oh, forgot to mention it was the live cd.  Is there a Breezy live cd known to be good, then?
[11:13] <dalamar> i've only got 'root' in my /etc/sudoers as well yet my main user 'dalamar' still has sudo ability
[11:13] <medamaybe> would it do me any good if I change the /etc/sudoers file and put a user in there?
[11:13] <medamaybe> :/
[11:13] <medamaybe> that's odd
[11:13] <Seveas> dalamar, in hoary the admin group is in the sudoers file
[11:13] <metis> can anyone help me with creloaded/oscommerce?
[11:14] <Seveas> and the first user you create is in that group
[11:14] <dalamar> Seveas, ah ok
[11:14] <medamaybe> I read something about users having to be in the 'wheel' group to be able to use sudo
[11:14] <alllanon> dalamar: hm, yes. i usually use archlinux, and i thought i set it there. could be different on ubuntu.
[11:14] <dalamar> so its based on group in hoary
[11:14] <FiRez> medaybe: no
[11:14] <alllanon> ah, then it should be just to add your user to the admin group then?
[11:14] <medamaybe> so...how do I add a user to the admin group?
[11:14] <FiRez> You can change that in the user adm. program
[11:15] <dalamar> medamaybe, I really dont see how your first user you created on install couldnt have admin
[11:15] <medamaybe> well..neither do I
[11:15] <FiRez> is called Users and Groups I think, sorry I don't have Ubuntu installed in my work's PC
[11:15] <black13> has anyone played around with making bootable cd roms based on ubuntu?
[11:15] <black13> or debian
[11:15] <medamaybe> I can't get to the Users and Groups thing
[11:16] <medamaybe> it tells me I need a password
[11:16] <dalamar> your using the -user's- password when it asks right, not root pw?
[11:16] <medamaybe> yeah, the users password
[11:16] <dalamar> and are you trying this with your first/main user?
[11:16] <medamaybe> I have only 1 user
[11:16] <FiRez> it should work like that or just enable the root account
[11:16] <FiRez> wait...I will look for the link
[11:16] <medamaybe> ok
[11:17] <FiRez> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?highlight=%28root%29
[11:17] <selinium> anyone a bluetooth wizard here?
[11:17] <FiRez> see Enabling root account
[11:17] <selinium> I am having some bonding issues!  :)
[11:17] <zen> where is the file named 'i18n'?
[11:17] <zen> where is the file named 'i18n'?
[11:17] <zen> where is the file named 'i18n'?
[11:17] <medamaybe> ok, thanks
[11:17] <apokryphos> You can't enable the root account if sudo isn't working
[11:18] <apokryphos> zen: don't flood
[11:18] <dalamar> yeah
[11:18] <medamaybe> I can't do ANYTHING if sudo is not working, or so it seems :)
[11:18] <dalamar> so thats really not going to do you any good
[11:18] <FiRez> sorry I forget that you can't use sudo
[11:18] <apokryphos> what happened?
[11:18] <medamaybe> :/
[11:18] <FiRez> what happens when you try to use the terminal as root?
[11:18] <medamaybe> that works
[11:19] <hardw1re> xfce is tehh ownage
[11:19] <apokryphos> only real way to stop sudo working is to muck up your subdoers file; you shouldn't really be playing around with that
[11:19] <FiRez> well just use the command without sudo but be sure that you are using the terminal with the root profile
[11:19] <TaxMan> Quick question, just so I won't waste time trying this and have to reboot: Can I install packages when on the LiveCD (obviously only for the same session but still)?
[11:19] <juanej> is there anyway to get rid of gnome and install xfce?
[11:19] <medamaybe> I never even touched my sudoers file
[11:19] <juanej> without reinstalling i mean
[11:20] <apokryphos> medamaybe: and what happens when you try to sudo? Password incorrect?
[11:20] <dalamar> juanej, install xfce, set it in your sessions at login, then delete gnome
[11:20] <medamaybe> no, it tells me 'meda is not in the sudoers file'
[11:20] <juanej> dalamar, how?
[11:20] <dalamar> how what?
[11:20] <FiRez> mm....it's my connection or the forums are down?
[11:20] <apokryphos> medamaybe: and that's the user you said you started with?
[11:20] <dalamar> use synaptic
[11:20] <medamaybe> yeah, it is
[11:21] <apokryphos> medamaybe: but you can get into root permissions now?
[11:21] <mattyJ> does anyone know if you can use gnomemeeting to connect to someone with ichat on a mac?
[11:21] <apokryphos> medamaybe: if you can, type visudo there
[11:21] <haja> can someone give me a hand in installing java..
[11:21] <medamaybe> ok
[11:21] <apokryphos> medamaybe: and add in {username} ALL=(ALL) ALL
[11:21] <FiRez> did you tried to install it from synaotic?
[11:21] <FiRez> *synaptic
[11:21] <NoUse> !java
[11:21] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:21] <CookedGryphon> haja, i have java installed n working, what do u want to know?
[11:22] <haja> what is the package name to install it?
[11:22] <zen> apokryphos > I 'm sorry ,I just wanna solve my problem.
[11:22] <dalamar> im guessing the aq would tell you
[11:22] <FiRez> search for JRE
[11:22] <dalamar> the faq too
[11:22] <bytefoo> someone know what version of ipw2200 ubuntu is using
[11:22] <CookedGryphon> i dint dl a package myself
[11:22] <bytefoo> is it the latest that supports monitor mode :O
[11:22] <apokryphos> zen: hmm?
[11:22] <asfra> haja: sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[11:22] <CookedGryphon> downloaded the self extracting archive from www.java.com
[11:22] <haja> I get nothhing in synap
[11:23] <dalamar> zen, the il8n stuff is language packages most likely
[11:23] <asfra> haja: check sources.list
[11:23] <apokryphos> Everyone's mentioning ten different ways to get it (and I have another). Confusing, I'm sure. :)
[11:23] <NoUse> haja have you looked at the wiki?
[11:23] <haja> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[11:23] <apokryphos> actually, the wiki is dated -- jre is no longer in hoary-extras
[11:23] <zen> dalamar > yeah, I wanna find it. but I'am fail
[11:23] <haja> I am using the ubuntuguide.com or hwatever
[11:23] <medamaybe> it works!
[11:23] <NoUse> !tell haja about java
[11:23] <medamaybe> my other user is now able to use sudo
[11:23] <medamaybe> thanks guys
[11:23] <dalamar> medamaybe, congrats
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> you could jsut do what i did, it works
[11:24] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[11:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> www.java.com
[11:24] <medamaybe> now...let's see how I can screw everything up again ;)
[11:24] <apokryphos> CookedGryphon: unnecessary
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> downlaod the self extracting
[11:24] <zen> dalamer > perhaps, Ubuntu hasn't that file. but another do.
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> i like to do things the logn way around tho
[11:24] <dalamar> zen, ubuntu has alot of those, though its not just called il8n, its got a long filename with the language name in the front of it
[11:24] <CookedGryphon> long*
[11:25] <CookedGryphon> its more fun
[11:25] <apokryphos> CookedGryphon: most others won't -- I think that's a safe presumption :P
[11:25] <rmflagg> Does anyone know anything about the workings of GDM?
[11:25] <zen> dalamer >and what? I can't see the follow words
[11:25] <juanej> can i replace nautilius with rox file manager?
[11:25] <Seveas> all the people needing java: backports mirrors seem to have problems
[11:26] <CookedGryphon> apokryphos, i wanted java to run a risk game n it referred me to java.com, then when i searched synaptic 4 java, nothing, so i juust went off the java website
[11:26] <Seveas> look at my hostmask to find out where you can grab java debs :)
[11:26] <apokryphos> and hoary-extras doesn't have it anymore
[11:26] <apokryphos> CookedGryphon: it's an option, sure; but there are easier methods
[11:26] <CookedGryphon> oh yeah, i have a problem
[11:26] <RockFoo> Anyone here have experience with installing an ATI Radeon in Ubuntu?
[11:27] <Seveas> !ati
[11:27] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:27] <Seveas> ^-- RockFoo
[11:27] <rmflagg> I am running Hoary and GDM doesn't ask if I want to use Session "X" as my default session anymore.  It also doesn't save the "Last" session setting.
[11:27] <dalamar> zen, i was just saying the file isnt just called 'il8n', thats only a small part of a long filename
[11:27] <haja> When I search for sun-j2re1.5 in synaptic I get nothing
[11:27] <haja> I've added all the repos
[11:27] <bytefoo> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[11:27] <apokryphos> haja: you don't have the appropriate repository enabled
[11:27] <Madison> could I ask some advice when someone's got a minute
[11:27] <bytefoo> where can i check the latest package version on somethin :O
[11:27] <Seveas> haja, look at what I just said :)
[11:27] <bytefoo> for ubuntu repo :X
[11:27] <dalamar> haja, listen to Seveas, get it from there
[11:28] <apokryphos> haja: add.... deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl ./
[11:28] <Seveas> Madison, just ask :)
[11:28] <keegan3747> cookedGryphon, u have to download the .tar.gz file from sun's site
[11:28] <FiRez> bytefoo google the package
[11:28] <zen> oh, thanks ,but what's that?
[11:28] <apokryphos> Seveas: it's the damn wiki that's confusing, too. Will edit that.
[11:28] <Seveas> bytefoo, with synaptic
[11:28] <Seveas> apokryphos, just did :)
[11:28] <haja> sorry.... I didn't see that
[11:28] <bytefoo> googling the package tells me the package version, not what ubuntu is using
[11:28] <zen> dalamer >oh, thanks . but what's that?
[11:28] <bytefoo> yah i would, but im at work on an xp box :X
[11:28] <Madison> any chance anyone knows where to get a driver for a compaq deskpro en soundcard?
[11:28] <apokryphos> Seveas: ah, good going.
[11:28] <CookedGryphon> i have a java game in a .jar pkg, and it has several shell scripts to run it in different modes, when i type in the path to one of the scripts in terminal  it works fine, but then as soon as i put exactly the same command line in smeg then nothing happens
[11:29] <Seveas> bytefoo, ok, then packages.ubuntu.com :)
[11:29] <dalamar> zen, whats what? its most likely a language file
[11:29] <haja> add that as a repo?
[11:29] <FiRez> sorry I thought you wanted to know the latest version of the package
[11:29] <bytefoo> ahh thank you :)
[11:29] <CookedGryphon> keegan3747, eh, i already have java, no problem with it
[11:29] <apokryphos> haja: yes
[11:29] <rmflagg> I can't find anything on Google about the settings and what to change inside GDM conf.
[11:29] <Kuma> Can someone help me. When I run "Add/Remove Programs" I get this error:
[11:29] <keegan3747> cookedgryphon, I misread wat u typed ;)
[11:29] <Seveas> haja, either add it as repo or manually download a java .deb file from there
[11:29] <durt> !gdm
[11:29] <ubotu> No idea, durt
[11:30] <haja> awesome
[11:30] <FiRez> CookedGryphon did you used the installation files from sun.com or did you got it from synaptic?
[11:30] <haja> works
[11:30] <haja> thanks again
[11:30] <Seveas> Kuma: disable backports and reinstall python-xdg
[11:30] <haja> When I installed the first time I got it installed fine... don't know whats going on this time
[11:30] <CookedGryphon> FiRez, installation files, not synaptic
[11:30] <thespiritoftal> what is the command to write a directory to a cd?
[11:30] <CookedGryphon> and yes java dir is in my path variable
[11:30] <Kuma> Seveas: I am sorry, but I am a noob how do I disable backports and reinstall python...
[11:30] <FiRez> thanks, I was planning to install it today
[11:31] <Seveas> Kuma, first give the error :)
[11:31] <Kuma> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:31] <rmflagg> Ok, so NOBODY in here can supply me with ANY insight as to what could have happened to my GDM setting?
[11:31] <skora> !metapackage
[11:31] <ubotu> skora: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:31] <CookedGryphon> what's the exactly problem rmflagg ?
[11:31] <Seveas> Kuma, oooohhh
[11:31] <rmflagg> I am running Hoary and GDM doesn't ask if I want to use Session "X" as my default session anymore.  It also doesn't save the "Last" session setting.
[11:31] <Seveas> that's not what I expected :)
[11:32] <zen> dalamar >oh, thanks for ur help.
[11:32] <mirak> hi
[11:32] <haon> would the linux driver available here work on ubuntu? http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Download_C2%26cid%3D1115417109934%26sku%3D1121874580756&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
[11:32] <Seveas> Kuma, simply open synaptic and hit the reload button
[11:32] <Seveas> or in a terminal, run: sudo apt-get update
[11:32] <Kuma> Seveas: I am sorry, but I am a noob how...
[11:32] <rmflagg> It also has the default setting to Gnome and I am running Fluxbox exclusively.
[11:32] <Kuma> Seveas: Never mind.
[11:32] <Seveas> Kuma, synaptic is in the menu at the top of the screen: system -> administration -> synaptic
[11:32] <CookedGryphon> rmflagg, can u do anything in System -> Administration -> Login screen setup?
[11:33] <beniamino> anyone know why apt-get sun-j2re1.5 stopped working (for me) in the last few days? i know backports/extras isn't official, just wondered if anyone knew what happened
[11:33] <apokryphos> beniamino: it's no longer in hoary-extras
[11:33] <dalamar> its not working ;)
[11:33] <keegan3747> rmflagg, I am not sure if I understand the question or not but don't u change the session by clicking session on the login screen?
[11:33] <Kuma> Seveas: Error: Another synaptic is running...
[11:33] <apokryphos> Kuma: close the other one :P
[11:33] <Seveas> Kuma, close the add/remove programs thing
[11:33] <rmflagg> I am running Fluxbox.  I have been for months and everything has been fine.  It just changed last week!
[11:33] <icewt> how can i change gtk1 theme?
[11:33] <Kuma> Seveas: It is not open.
[11:34] <durt> where is sun-j2re1.5 now then?
[11:34] <skora> Hi. I'm trying to find out information about metapackages, but I checked the forum [down] , the wiki [no info]  and google; and unable to find out.
[11:34] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell durt about java
[11:34] <asfra> hi, is it possible to copy alle the packages related to aptitude to en external harddrive? is so, can anybode tell me where they are located?
[11:34] <dalamar> do you have an apt-get running on cmdlin?
[11:34] <Seveas> skora, the wiki should have info
[11:34] <skora> for example - can I remove them without any harm ?
[11:34] <selinium> black13: the program downloads a bitstream from the dive computer this then needs to be turned into readable info using the formula found at http://www.muenster.de/~matthias/aladin/aladin_frame.xls
[11:34] <apokryphos> asfra: all packages are in archive.ubuntu.com
[11:34] <Seveas> I wrote a page about them a few months ago
[11:34] <skora> Seveas, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/search?SearchableText=metapackage&Title=&Description=&created%3Adate=1970%2F02%2F01+00%3A00%3A00+GMT&created_usage=range%3Amin&pt_toggle=%23&portal_type%3Alist=AmazonItem&portal_type%3Alist=Discussion+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Document&portal_type%3Alist=Event&portal_type%3Alist=Favorite&portal_type%3Alist=File&portal_type%3Alist=Folder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenter&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterDefinition&
[11:34] <skora> portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterErrorReference&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterErrorReferenceFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterFAQ&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterFAQFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterGlossary&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterHowTo&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterHowToFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterLink&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterLinkFolder&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorial&portal_type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorialFolder&portal
[11:34] <skora> _type%3Alist=HelpCenterTutorialPage&portal_type%3Alist=Image&portal_type%3Alist=Large+Plone+Folder&portal_type%3Alist=Link&portal_type%3Alist=News+Item&portal_type%3Alist=Plone+Site&portal_type%3Alist=TempFolder&portal_type%3Alist=Topic&portal_type%3Alist=Wiki+Page&Creator=&submit=Search
[11:34] <rmflagg> keegan3747: Yes, you do.  But it doesn't remember the Last session setting anymore.  So everytime I log in, I go to Gnome, which I don't use.
[11:34] <dalamar> whoa
[11:34] <skora> ack sry.
[11:34] <c0rrupt__> .........
[11:34] <dalamar> i have no eyes
[11:34] <apokryphos> speeedy
[11:35] <klato> my WAP is not detected (although my wireless card is) in ubuntu, although all is fine in another os. the wireless is eth1, and i entered my essid/wep (using 4th, dont see any way to have it use the 4th though)...any ideas?
[11:35] <Seveas> jeez, what an a**
[11:35] <rmflagg> Also, it doesn't ask anymore if I want to change my default setting to Fluxbox anymore.
[11:35] <Kuma> Seveas: It is not open.
[11:35] <c0rrupt__> damn long link
[11:35] <keegan3747> rmflagg, if you change the session by clicking session on the login screen, it should ask if you want to make it the default, so u should be able to edit the default there
[11:35] <Seveas> Kuma, hmm
[11:35] <chris> hey I'm looking for an applet to sit on my gnome-panel that will alert me to new emails does anyone know of a good one?
[11:35] <rmflagg> It doesn't ask anymore. :(
[11:35] <RockFoo> Alright I tried using the guides to installing an ATI card on Ubuntu but I can't start X back up
[11:35] <Seveas> close all instances of synaptic, apt-get, add remove programs and whatnot
[11:35] <keegan3747> hmmm...
[11:35] <beniamino> apokryphos: well that would explain it :-) but what happened?
[11:36] <RockFoo> Can anyone help me?
[11:36] <robotgeek> Kuma: sudo killall synaptic
[11:36] <Seveas> and then retry
[11:36] <asfra> apokryphos: ok, thats online. But doesn't apt keep all the dowloaded packages in a local directory on the computer?
[11:36] <alllanon> chris: xbiff?
[11:36] <apokryphos> beniamino: I have no idea
[11:36] <apokryphos> asfra: *downloaded* ones, yes
[11:36] <chris> alllanon, I'll give that a try thanks
[11:36] <apokryphos> asfra: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:36] <selinium> black13: thanks for your pointers.
[11:36] <robotgeek> does anyone know a good mp3 tag editor?
[11:36] <ircleuser> is the ntfs partition resizing working on latest daily install cd?
[11:36] <apokryphos> robotgeek: JuK
[11:36] <alllanon> robotgeek: amarok :)
[11:36] <Madison> well, I'll be damned if I can find a driver...
[11:37] <xerath> lo
[11:37] <robotgeek> apokryphos: thanks
[11:37] <selinium> robotgeek easytag
[11:37] <apokryphos> even KRename can do it, I believe
[11:37] <xerath> :P
[11:37] <Kuma> Seveas: Okay I am at Synaptic, now I get... W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:37] <xerath> everyone from rsa?
[11:37] <Seveas> Kuma, good
[11:37] <asfra> apokryphos: thanks! I need to update a system that is off-line.. I think this will work...
[11:37] <Seveas> Kuma, now hit the reload button in synaptic
[11:37] <RockFoo> Can anyone here help me one on one with installing an ATI Radeon card under Ubuntu?
[11:37] <alllanon> xerath: no, some of us from aes
[11:37] <RockFoo> I've tried the guides
[11:37] <keegan3747> rmflagg, lemme c wat I can dig up
[11:37] <xerath> how long should a root@woof:/home/xerath # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdd
[11:37] <robotgeek> apokryphos, alllanon , selinium : thanks, will try them out, except amarok
[11:37] <dalamar> robotgeek, easytag is a nice little one too for a specific program for editing them
[11:37] <Kuma> Seveas: Ok...
[11:37] <xerath> take on a 160 gig?
[11:37] <apokryphos> asfra: use the -d option to download and not unpack/install
[11:37] <alllanon> amaroK <3 <3 <3
[11:38] <selinium> Good night all, happy ubuntu'ing!
[11:38] <dalamar> amarok is ugly ;)
[11:38] <alllanon> someone should make gamaroK.
[11:38] <apokryphos> amaroK is boootiful
[11:38] <rmflagg> Thanks!
[11:38] <asubedi> anyone successful in resizing a ntfs partition from the install cd?
[11:38] <Seveas> RockFoo: sample xorg.conf for a radeon 9600 http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/793
[11:38] <Kuma> Seveas: Thank you very much... It works.
[11:38] <dalamar> and the playlist is bloat and uneeded if you want a basic mp3 player
[11:38] <haon> would the linux driver available here work on ubuntu? http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Download_C2%26cid%3D1115417109934%26sku%3D1121874580756&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
[11:38] <andril> come on first the repositories and now a hurricane - is it all over? :)
[11:38] <Seveas> maybe you can get some inspiration from that
[11:38] <asfra> apokryphos: so already downloaded and istalled packages are not contained in a 'form' that can be used by another system?
[11:38] <robotgeek> hehe, looks like i've started off a flmaewar!
[11:39] <xerath> how do I extract .deb packages?
[11:39] <dalamar> everyone's got thier fav mp3 player heh
[11:39] <apokryphos> asfra: I think APT does regular "apt-get clean"s, which basically deletes every package in that directory, so no
[11:39] <durt> xerath: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:39] <apokryphos> dalamar: indeed
[11:39] <apokryphos> durt: no, that's to extract+install :P
[11:39] <asfra> apokryphos: ok, thanks!
[11:39] <Seveas> xerath, ar x filename.deb
[11:40] <Seveas> or dpkg-deb -x (oslt)
[11:40] <FiRez> Does anyone use enlightement? I just wanted to know if it's faster than gnome
[11:40] <macarthy> anyone know the current status of mono on AMD64? Can it be run on Hoary?
[11:40] <robotgeek> dalamar: i use beep-media-player, though rhythmbox on breezy seemed nice for a while, but started skipping after song changeover. maybe a bug report is in order?
[11:40] <alllanon> do totem support loading and selecting subtitles in the gui now?
[11:40] <dalamar> though amarok my not be my fav, its got to hands down have the most features
[11:40] <durt> my bad
[11:40] <apokryphos> FiRez: it's more lightweight
[11:40] <Seveas> alllanon, yes (for dvds at least)
[11:40] <apokryphos> dalamar: yes; JuK has *very* many too, though. So few know about it.
[11:40] <alllanon> robotgeek: wait, skipping... sound familiar. it doesn't use gstreamer, does it?
[11:41] <dalamar> robotgeek, couldn't say, have never been a fan of rhythmbox so I dunno about its ups/downs
[11:41] <apokryphos> dalamar: amaroK got some of its major features from there (it uses JuK's tagging library, for example)
[11:41] <keegan3747> rmflagg, does this help? http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/changeman.html
[11:41] <FiRez> apokryphos Thanks I will try to use it, hopefully I will not break my installation again
[11:41] <dalamar> apokryphos, i see, i'll admit myself I've yet to try that one yet
[11:41] <robotgeek> alllanon: okay, i couldn't see any preferences ther eto change it?
[11:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell FiRez about e
[11:41] <dalamar> though I've heard of it
[11:41] <beniamino> apokryphos: do you know if sun-j2re1.5 will come back? or where i can find out?
[11:41] <apokryphos> beniamino: you can use the other repo I linked you to
[11:42] <robotgeek> alllanon: it plays fine if i pause and play back again
[11:42] <robotgeek> alllanon: in fact, it plays great once i do that, but song change screws all that up
[11:42] <RockFoo> How can I tell that the fglrx driver for the Radeon has been correctly installed?
[11:42] <codecaine> what does "+e" mean for chat?
[11:42] <alllanon> robotgeek: no, i never used it, so I don't know, but skipping when changing songs in amarok while using gstreamer (with or without crossfade) is a well-known problem.
[11:42] <vitor4130> hi there! i have vlc installed in my computer but i can only see image, no sound! any idea why? thanks
[11:42] <codecaine> RockFoo, run glxgears
[11:43] <alllanon> some were amarok problems, other gstreamer problems.
[11:43] <robotgeek> alllanon: ah okay...bmp skips when i open a firefox window :(
[11:43] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:43] <alllanon> hm. old computer?
[11:43] <rmflagg> keegan3747, it doesn't cover gdm...only xdm. :(
[11:43] <RockFoo> 345FPS on GLXgears
[11:43] <dalamar> memory amount may be an issue
[11:43] <robotgeek> alllanon: powerbook g4 500
[11:43] <CookedGryphon> bmp rocks.. but also skips when i dial up, not when i open firefox tho
[11:44] <alllanon> robotgeek: neat, lucky you :)
[11:44] <robotgeek> dalamar: i have lots of free ram :) i ue only about 256 of my 768
[11:44] <RockFoo> under xorg.conf what should the driver be labled as?
[11:44] <ReleaseX> can anyone suggest a good wireless mini pci card for my laptop
[11:44] <RockFoo> should it be fglrx or vesa?
[11:44] <dalamar> robotgeek, ah okay obviously not lacking there ;)
[11:44] <alllanon> i had performance problems, but with dmesg i found out it was all because my crappy SIS controller kept sending my drives into PIO mode.
[11:44] <FiRez> RockFoo just to let you know that I got the same fps with glxgears with my TNT2 Ultra
[11:44] <beniamino> apkryphos: can't see the link (this channel moves fast) -- could you post again?
[11:44] <alllanon> ReleaseX: mini-pci? not pcmcia?
[11:44] <RockFoo> i've got a radeon 9800
[11:45] <asfra> apokryphos: just checking to be sure: all .deb packages are ready to be installed by APT right? so I can just: ' apt-get -d whatever_package ' and then copy the /var/cache/apt/archives to another drive and then modify sources.list to get packages from that directory? thanks..
[11:45] <robotgeek> alllanon: only if i fix this thing, it would be perfect ;)
[11:45] <keegan3747> rmflagg, does fluxbox show up in your sessions?
[11:45] <codecaine> RockFoo, fglrx
[11:45] <alllanon> beniamino: esc-p works in most irc clients.
[11:45] <robotgeek> beniamino: or page up
[11:45] <RockFoo> When I have the driver st to fglrx I can't boot up Xwindows though
[11:46] <rmflagg> keegan3747, Fluxbox does show up in the Session menu.
[11:46] <pinpoint> is there a disk defrag program for ubuntu?
[11:46] <keegan3747> rmflagg, ok cool
[11:46] <beniamino> alllanon: i can scroll, i just can't find the link
[11:46] <alllanon> i just saw someone had gotten that wireless... airport extreme, i think to work under linux too.
[11:46] <alllanon> it included using Mac-on-Linux, but still :}
[11:46] <dalamar> i've got a question, dma is defaulted to on for my hdd and off for my dvd burner, I tried setting it on with hdparm and any attempt at using the drive will seriously lock the whole system .. at first I thought it was the driver for the ide controller, but it works fine with dma on for hdd .. is it the specific driver for the drive or just bad burner or what?
[11:47] <_nereos> pinpoint:  it's not necessary
[11:47] <RockFoo> Anyone have any other ideas for my radeon problems?
[11:47] <Seveas> pinpoint, you don't need that - linux filesystems don't fragment
[11:47] <pinpoint> really
[11:47] <pinpoint> is normal for a disk to click once in a while?
[11:47] <alllanon> dalamar: doubt it is the burner. nor driver. maybe cable.
[11:47] <robotgeek> pinpoint: also no antivirus, no anti-spyware
[11:47] <alllanon> pinpoint: yep. mine does. then dies two years later.
[11:47] <pinpoint> its my lappy
[11:47] <alllanon> a bit hard to say if related to the click :>
[11:47] <pinpoint> they always do that
[11:47] <dalamar> alllanon, its using same cable as the hdd?
[11:48] <ReleaseX> alllanon, mini pci
[11:48] <alllanon> beep-beep-click is also usual in my hard drives. and some had this circle saw sound.
[11:48] <codecaine> Seveas, how do i get some info on what channel modes are used / avail for this server?
[11:48] <pinpoint> i see
[11:48] <Seveas> codecaine, www.freenode.org
[11:49] <codecaine> okie dokie
[11:49] <Seveas> and specifically: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[11:49] <P8ntKid> How do i isntall wine with ubuntu?
[11:49] <alllanon> dalamar: hm, hm, maybe read up on ata100 cables and ata133. i don't know much about it, but i think the cables look identical, but if wrong one is used, it might send the unit into PIO mode.
[11:49] <alllanon> take it with a grain of salt.
[11:49] <NoUse> !wine
[11:49] <beniamino> ubotu: tell beniamino about java
[11:49] <sponge008> Guys, where can I DL the ubuntu source code?
[11:49] <keegan3747> rmflagg, still looking, be aware I am no expert
[11:49] <funkyHat> what is the name of the program that outputs keymappings of the keys you press while it's running?
[11:49] <thespiritoftal> ubotu: tell thespiritoftal about wine
[11:50] <dalamar> alllanon, is there a way to see if the drive is in pio? listed in dmesg perhaps?
[11:50] <funkyHat> (and other info)
[11:50] <NoUse> sponge008 apt-get source <program>
[11:50] <rapasoft> damn, i'm tired...
[11:50] <Seveas> sponge008, there is no such thing as 'the ubuntu source code'. You can download sourcecode for packages with apt-get source
[11:50] <alllanon> dalamar: hdparm should be able to tell you
[11:50] <dalamar> i'll check
[11:50] <alllanon> dalamar: not on linux now, and can't remember the switches.
[11:50] <robotgeek> funkyHat: xev
[11:50] <funkyHat> thanks robotgeek, thats the one :)
[11:50] <sponge008> To install Ndiswrapper, I need a "source folder", then how do I make one?
[11:51] <alllanon> mkdir "source folder"
[11:51] <durt> sponge008: you need the kernel headers
[11:51] <NoUse> !ndiswrapper
[11:51] <sponge008> but, it's supposed to be the Debian source I think
[11:51] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:51] <robotgeek> funkyHat: also do a apt-cache search xmodmap , there was a graphical tool too!
[11:51] <sponge008> oooh thanks
[11:51] <macarthy> Anyone running MONO on Ubuntu/ AMD64?
[11:51] <alllanon> i wonder if that guy installed xbiff.
[11:51] <P8ntKid> How do i install WINE with ubuntu?
[11:51] <yaru22> what does multiverse and universe mean?
[11:51] <keegan3747> rmflagg, On the GDM login screen, select Session -> default
[11:51] <keegan3747> then log in.
[11:51] <keegan3747> If you want to use fluxbox as your gnome window manager,
[11:51] <keegan3747> add the following line to the end of your ~/.fluxbox/startup
[11:51] <keegan3747> file:
[11:51] <keegan3747> 	exec gnome-session
[11:51] <keegan3747> My ~/.fluxbox/startup file contains only the following lines:
[11:51] <NoUse> !wine
[11:51] <alllanon> thank you, keegan3747.
[11:52] <yaru22> what does multiverse and universe mean?
[11:52] <Seveas> yaru22, www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[11:52] <funkyHat> :( the extra keys at the top of my keyboard have stopped working for no apparent reason
[11:52] <P8ntKid> !wine
[11:52] <yaru22> Seveas, thanks
[11:52] <malin> hm, i installed quodlibet a while ago and it seems not to work
[11:53] <P8ntKid> NoUse, The un ubuntuforums are down for me...
[11:53] <dalamar> alllanon, do I need to throw hdparm a variable to check that? hdparm /dev/cdrom doesnt say anything about PIO ...
[11:53] <Seveas> apokryphos, are you there?
[11:53] <caffinated> quick question - are the ubuntu forums down?  or is it just me?
[11:53] <sponge008> Select the inf-file you need.   Launch synaptic or whatever package management tool you prefer   Install the package "ndiswrapper-utils"   Call "sudo ndiswrapper -i foobar.inf" where foobar.inf is the path to your inf-file (windows wireless-lan driver).   Call "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" to install the needed module.   Now you can set up your working Wlan device under Desktop->Administration->Networking   Dont forget to type "ndiswrapp
[11:53] <sponge008> I do not understand
[11:53] <alllanon> dalamar: wait, i will use google since you can't :)
[11:53] <dalamar> ;/ sprry
[11:53] <sponge008> I found the instructions, it's just that they don't work
[11:53] <dalamar> sorry even
[11:53] <sponge008> Ubuntu has no source folder
[11:54] <malin> i when i run it, i got only one proccess: python /usr/local/bin/quodlibet
[11:54] <alllanon> dalamar: hdparm -d /dev/hda-whatever
[11:54] <malin> any ideas what's going on?
[11:54] <dalamar> alllanon, only line I get from the is 'using_dma = 0'
[11:54] <alllanon> i guess that is a "no", then :)
[11:54] <durt> sponge008: where are you getting errors?
[11:54] <dalamar> hmm this is wierd
[11:55] <alllanon> that means it is in PIO mode.
[11:55] <sponge008> well, I get errors when I try to make and make install
[11:55] <sponge008> but you're supposed to go to the source folder to do that
[11:55] <alllanon> dalamar: you will probably notice a real slowdown when copying files from cd to disk
[11:55] <Xappe> darn, linuxdc++ doesn't compile on my ibook...something with the atomic.h
[11:55] <sponge008> which I can't, since there isn't one in Ubuntu
[11:55] <durt> you dont need to make and make install if you use synaptic
[11:55] <Seveas> Xappe, use valknut :)
[11:55] <sponge008> synaptic...
[11:55] <durt> to get the utils
[11:55] <sponge008> google/DL?
[11:55] <Xappe> Seveas: never again
[11:55] <sponge008> or is it installed?
[11:56] <Seveas> sponge008, you're not supposed to compile ndiswrapper
[11:56] <sponge008> I didint
[11:56] <Seveas> the guide does not even say that...
[11:56] <alllanon> dalamar: try a hdparm -d1 /dev/yourdevice?
[11:56] <durt> sponge008: run "ndiswrapper"
[11:56] <sponge008> I tried, nothing happenned
[11:56] <sponge008> you mean the Perl exe, right?
[11:56] <Xappe> Seveas: it has compiled fine before, but now they changed something about atomic that I can't figure out how to fix for ppc
[11:56] <dalamar> alllanon, well never tried other than the original install, and it wasn't too slow .. burning is obviously slow with no dma but how do I get it out of PIO? is this still related to the cable? .. the hdparm -d1 /dev/device is what locks up the comp if I try to use the drive
[11:56] <Seveas> sponge008, there is no such thing as a perl exe
[11:57] <sponge008> perl executable file
[11:57] <QbY> I installed Ubuntu on my laptop, the screen looked like crapola (epsecially gradients) so I installed the nvidia drivers from nvidia..  However now my resolution is set low, and I can't change it---any suggestions?
[11:57] <alllanon> dalamar: oh. right. -d1 is to switch it from pio to dma :\ then i don't know. to you dual boot?
[11:57] <alllanon> s/to you/do you/
[11:57] <dalamar> alllanon, nope, straight ubuntu
[11:57] <lilldude> can you  auto sum  md5 sumchecker debian cds?
[11:57] <Seveas> !tell QbY about res
[11:57] <sponge008> sorry perl script
[11:57] <sponge008> not exec file
[11:57] <lilldude> i was told in comand line you could it root shell
[11:58] <lilldude> i tried that and cant do it
[11:58] <alllanon> dalamar: what drive do you have, by the way?
[11:58] <sponge008> ANYONE?????
[11:58] <QbY> anxiously..
[11:58] <Seveas> QbY: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:58] <lilldude> how  do i cehck my cds for debian?
[11:58] <alllanon> dalamar: i know some plextor drives have a jumper on the back of the drive (close to where the master/slave jumpers are), and that works as a physical switch to disable DMA.
[11:59] <Seveas> (apparently the bot no longer knows it)
[11:59] <Seveas> lilldude, ask in #debian ...
[11:59] <lilldude> oh
[11:59] <jyeh> hey
[11:59] <jyeh> I'm a ubuntu and linux newbie
[11:59] <alllanon> and there are many of us.
[11:59] <lilldude> doesnt ubuntu  use  same md5 sumchecker
[11:59] <jyeh> and the default install correctly isntalled my ethernet card
[12:00] <dalamar> its a memorex dvd16+/-dl4rw|d2
[12:00] <alllanon> *shiver*