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herbazsudo synaptic12:05
herbazi thought there is somthing called  12:05
Tm_Thumm12:06
herbazsudo: synaptic: command not found12:06
herbaz:S12:06
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herbaz<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">12:06
herbaz<body>    man</body>12:06
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herbazi'm using kubuntu12:06
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jbasilioanybody have a gmail invite?12:27
Pierre-Yvesme12:27
jbasiliocould i bug you for one?12:27
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Pierre-Yvessend me your email12:28
jbasilioPierre-Yves: jim.basilio@verizon.net12:28
jbasilioi hope google brings jabber to the fashionable IM list.  would be SOOOO much easier for OSS clients12:28
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Pierre-Yvesjbasilio: done12:29
jbasilioPierre-Yves: thank you most kindly!  brb12:29
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hussammy computer keeps connecting to a an IP 207.68.178.61 through port 80 although I don't have firefox open. how can know to what domain does that IP belong?12:32
pacouse nslookup12:32
paconslookup ipaddress12:32
jbasilioPierre-Yves: done.  again, thank you.12:32
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hussampaco: is there anyway I can terminate this connection?12:33
pacoi don't know12:34
pacoi guess so12:34
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hussamhow can know from command line if a service is running12:41
apokryphoshussam: depends on the service/process. Often: ps aux|grep {process}12:43
hussamis there anyway I can kill all active network connections? firestarter keeps detecting connections to an unknown IP12:46
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martinQuestion: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?12:46
apokryphoshussam: ifdown?12:47
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hussamapokryphos: will that shut off networking?12:48
apokryphosIt will bring the network interface down, yes. See man:ifdown for the usage12:49
hussamapokryphos: how do I turn it back on?12:49
apokryphosas the man page says, ifup :P12:49
hussamok12:49
fromozehi, someone know the name of the package which install "system setting" menu on kde 342?12:52
_frankfromoze: there is a package for that? you mean kcontrol? I just did it manually12:53
fromozeno no, in kde 342 there's no kcontrol on the kmenu, just systemsettings...12:53
=== apokryphos didn't realise it was done that early :/
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fromoze_frank: try to install kde-systemsettings12:57
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Heart_hi01:02
Heart_$KDEDIR in kubuntu is /usr ?01:02
apokryphosKDEDIR in KDE is obsolete, though; you should use KDEDIRS01:03
apokryphosbut it is /usr, yes01:03
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Heart_ok.... asked because "echo $KDEDIR" prints nothing here01:03
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apokryphosby default it is not set; netierh is KDEDIRS01:03
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apokryphosto find out the prefix though you can always use kde-config --prefix01:04
apokryphoss/netierh/neither01:04
_trashchakie is here today...*waves* hi01:04
Heart_apokryphos: ahh thx01:04
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prjkt_trashso yea anyone know how to make the SB Live 24 (ca0106) to work in Horay? (kubuntu)01:05
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ubuntuhi everyone!01:22
hussamis ubuntuforums.org down !?01:24
apokryphosyes01:25
ubuntuHow can i download programs with Synaptic, I'm looking for some programs that I can't simply find.....01:26
apokryphoslike what?01:27
apokryphosYou may want to enable the extra repositories01:27
apokryphos!repos01:27
ubotu[repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:27
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Velox'lo...having a problem with Adjust date and time...keyboard settings too. Keyboard settings don't even show up (when opened, just a blank window) and date & time won't set the time...it will in the configure module, but then it doesn't set the clocks and when reopened reverted.01:37
Heart_anyone here has deb package for kdar?01:37
ubuntuubotu : i'm looking for programs like octave, maxima and R..... (I think they are from debian!)....01:40
ubotuubuntu: what are you talking about?01:40
ubuntuUsing Synaptic.... the link you sent me are from ubuntu.... and they don't seem to have them... 01:42
apokryphosHeart_: what is it?01:43
apokryphosubuntu: as I said before, what package? :)01:43
ubuntuapokryphos : many, to mention some: Octave, xmaxima, R, Battle for Wesnoth and Acrobat.01:45
apokryphosthe first few: are those games?01:45
apokryphoskde has programs for viewing PDFs already, too01:45
ubuntuapokryphos : No, just "Battle for Wesnoth"01:46
Heart_apokryphos: frontend for dar (dar.sf.net)01:46
Heart_http://kdar.sourceforge.net/01:46
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McScrufflo01:47
apokryphosdar stuff is in there; kdar is not01:47
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apokryphosMcScruff: hi :)01:47
Heart_yes, that's the "problem" :)01:47
apokryphosThe repositories are huge (16000 packs, around), but they cannot possibly have *everything*, unfortunately.01:49
Heart_sure but it could be possible that someone here made a package or knew a site which provides debs for it ....01:51
ubuntuapokryphos: do you know how?01:52
apokryphosubuntu: know if there is one? No.01:52
ubuntuthanks01:53
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Heart_what is a usefull compression level when making a gzip backup?01:55
Heart_9?01:55
apokryphosthat's the best and slowest compression level; default is 601:56
Heart_k01:57
Heart_apokryphos: are you or have contact to a kubuntu dev member or where can make a request for kdar package in next kubuntu release?02:08
apokryphosHeart_: there's a section on the wiki for that; feel free to recommend it there02:08
Heart_url?02:09
apokryphoshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages02:09
apokryphosah, it's already suggested02:10
Heart_ahh nice02:10
apokryphos...and someone's already made it; it's being reviewed :)02:10
Heart_reviewed?! where do you see that?02:10
Heart_package is in REVU for reviewing)02:11
Heart_ahh02:11
Heart_that means it exist and are in "testing stage"?!02:11
apokryphosWhen new packagers make packages they're sent to MOTU for reviewing, before they're put in02:11
apokryphosnot exactly; it means it has to get the approval of an MOTU-member(s) before it can go into Universe/Multiverse etc02:11
Heart_but it goes only to the repository with the next release (so breezy)... not "between release cycles"?02:12
apokryphosnot unless it's put into backports, no02:13
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Heart_so the way is: reviewed packages goes into backport (package is in REVU for reviewing)02:15
Heart_ups sorry mom02:15
Heart_so the way is: reviewed packages goes into backport (deb http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary ./ <-- is ok?) then afterwards it goes to universe/multiverse?02:15
apokryphosnope :)02:15
apokryphosPackages are put in REVU when new (non-MOTU) people make packages02:16
apokryphosif they're approved, they either go into Backports or the unstable version (currently Breezy)02:16
Heart_k... mentioned backport is the right one?02:17
apokryphosyou want to get it now?02:17
apokryphosI'm not sure if REVU hosts the debs... you could check02:18
Heart_where?02:18
Heart_or simply mail AndreasMussgiller?02:18
apokryphoswiki.ubuntu.com/REVU02:18
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apokryphosnope, it doesn't seem to02:19
fatejudgerdoes anyone here know anything about Kdevelop?02:20
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Heart_what i saw is.... kdar2.0.6 requires a newer dar-version than the one which is already there in apt/aptitude02:21
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rayhey whats up guys02:30
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c0rrupt_whats the program in kubuntu that automaticaly searches for programs not added to the panel?02:58
c0rrupt_o.002:59
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c0rrupt_wakeeeeeeeeee up!111111103:10
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claydohc0rrupt_:  kappfinder03:14
c0rrupt_kthx03:14
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BTJusticeMight someone be able to help me get my SoundBlaster Live! 7.1 24-bit sound card working well in Lubuntu?03:27
BTJustice*Kubuntu03:27
crimsunBTJustice: still static?03:28
crimsunBTJustice: are you using 1.0.10rc1?03:28
BTJusticeNo, I reinstalled Kubuntu a few days ago03:29
BTJusticeI haven't done shit to it03:29
crimsunthen you need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:29
crimsunthen grab the alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1.tar.bz203:29
BTJusticeFrom terminal or Ksynaptic?03:29
crimsunirrelevant03:29
BTJusticeTell me what to do and I will do it.03:29
crimsunI just did03:30
BTJusticeBut how do I get that stuff?03:30
BTJusticeI don't know.03:30
BTJusticeReally.03:30
BTJusticeI don't know.03:30
crimsunpick your poison03:30
BTJusticeAlright, Knaptic03:30
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BTJusticeSo I just do a search for that stuff?03:31
crimsunsure.03:31
crimsundinner time for me, bbl03:31
BTJusticewhat version of Linux headers?03:32
BTJusticethere is like a whole bunch of them03:32
BTJusticebtjustice@Kubuntu:~$ linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:36
BTJusticebash: linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386: command not found03:36
BTJusticeso I guess it would be that one03:37
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n17r0Hi anyone know a good file manager like total commandor on windows?03:48
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frogtone25hey 03:53
frogtone25i need to know where i can find a list of deb addresses to add to my repositories list03:54
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frogtone25i need all the backport and multiverse and universes03:54
frogtone25can anyone help me with this03:55
frogtone25i would really appreciate it if you could03:55
n17r0well I wouldnt use backports03:55
frogtone25ok03:55
frogtone25but do you know how to get them anyways03:55
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n17r0just uncomment the multiverse lines in ur sources.list03:56
frogtone25ok03:56
frogtone25is that a must though03:56
frogtone25why do i have to do that03:56
frogtone25i dont understand03:56
n17r0nah not a must, but u get lots of extra software to choose from03:57
frogtone25ok 03:57
frogtone25how do i do that03:57
frogtone25does uncomment mean to take them off the list03:57
Gattontake out the # from in front of those lines. in the /etc/apt/sources.list03:57
n17r0sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list03:58
frogtone25question03:58
frogtone25i didnt set a su password03:58
n17r0lol03:59
frogtone25is there a default password03:59
n17r0I dunno03:59
frogtone25usually i use the same password for both me and root03:59
n17r0try just <enter>03:59
frogtone25ok03:59
frogtone25nope03:59
frogtone25no luck03:59
frogtone25hold on03:59
n17r0yeah password for root is the same as "me"03:59
frogtone25it wont work04:00
frogtone25hold on04:00
Gattonyea sudo password is your password04:00
Gattonubuntu defaults to using sudo for everything04:00
frogtone25ok i changed it04:01
frogtone25i remembered to put sudo passwd root04:01
n17r0Gatton: do u know a good filemanager like total commander for windows?04:01
frogtone25ok i put nano etc/apt/sources.list04:02
frogtone25i dont know how to use that04:02
frogtone25how do i get the sources file thats in my computer to show up04:02
n17r0ok u now see some text right?04:02
frogtone25so i can edit it04:02
frogtone25yeah04:03
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frogtone25hold on04:03
n17r0ok scroll dowbn04:03
frogtone25i have to get it back online04:03
Gattonn17r0, i know there's a gnome-commander. not sure if it's based on that or not04:04
frogtone25hey ill have to wait a minute im installing some stuff on here04:04
frogtone25ok04:04
n17r0remove that "#" in front of all the lines that start with "deb blablabla"04:04
frogtone25ok04:04
Gattonremember after you remove the # you need to do sudo apt-get update04:05
n17r0like: # deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe04:05
frogtone25ok04:05
n17r0only remove that #04:05
frogtone25im on gnome right now 04:05
frogtone25and im installing kde right now04:05
frogtone25i had to reinstall this stuff earlier because i messed something up04:05
n17r0ok when u are done with removing those #'s then u must click: ctrl + x04:06
n17r0and then save 04:06
n17r0lol04:06
frogtone25what does ctrl + x do04:06
n17r0save ur file04:06
frogtone25oh04:06
frogtone25ok04:06
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frogtone25give me a minute or two and ill do this ok04:07
malvanyone know how to connect to gmails jabber server using kopete?04:07
frogtone25gmail uses jabber?04:07
n17r0ok im out04:07
frogtone25ok04:07
frogtone25thanks04:07
malvgoogle i mean04:07
malvtalk.google.com04:08
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frogtone25cool04:10
frogtone25you can chat with google04:10
frogtone25i didnt know that04:10
Gattonnew feature. just released04:10
frogtone25really cool04:10
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frogtone25ok im on the site now04:11
frogtone25this looks pretty cool04:11
malvfor one reason or another, the plugin to enable tls with jabber for kopete doesn't seem to work04:11
frogtone25im gonna google this really good and find out how this actually works04:11
frogtone25really 04:11
frogtone25hey can we get gajim on here04:13
frogtone25can it be downloaded04:13
frogtone25it says that gaim can work with jabber with google04:14
frogtone25but i dont know how to make jabber on there to work with google though04:14
frogtone25but it does say it04:14
frogtone25http://www.jabber.org/journal/2005-08-24.shtml 04:15
frogtone25check out this site 04:15
frogtone25ok 04:16
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frogtone25i need to know what to put as the server for jabber to chat with google04:16
frogtone25is it talk.google.com04:16
frogtone25or what04:17
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malvtalk.google.com has a page that shows you how to set it up with gaim04:20
malvas far as I can tell, it works fine with gaim04:20
frogtone25ok04:22
frogtone25hey im on there04:30
frogtone25its pretty cool04:30
supernixcan anyone tell me about the hotplug conflict in the latest kernel image ?04:30
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EasterSunshinehas kde released a lightweight browser, similar to konqueror in functionality, but with the speed of firefox?05:04
sproingieyes.  it's called konqueror05:05
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_johnwhat do you guys think the best media player is for linux?>05:07
_johnerr KDE i mean05:07
_johnthat fits in with the KDE theme05:07
sproingiekonq launches in half the time, with about half the RSS ... same virtual size tho, which is strange05:07
sproingieperhaps from heavy use of shared libs05:08
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bjvwhat is the standard way to check if an iso burned correctly?05:10
bjvk3b reported the verification process as 'ok', but i get an 'invalid compressed format' when trying to boot the disk.05:11
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EasterSunshinewhoa you can cat devices?05:13
_johnwhich is better: amaroK or JuK?  I use JuK now, but i dunno...05:13
jsubl2amarok05:13
malvamarok05:13
_johnI remember having problems with that05:13
_johnlike not being able to add music to my collection05:13
_johnperhaps it was just user error.05:14
_johnI'll give it another try.05:14
_john"The claims it _cannot_ play MP3 files" ?05:15
_johnI got that error when i started05:15
_johnand uploaded my collection05:15
kalenedraelare you running fedora core?05:15
_johnnope, kubuntu05:15
kalenedraelhmm,05:15
kalenedraeloh, i just noticed this was #kubuntu :P05:15
_johnXD05:15
kalenedraeli'm in like five linux and linux stuff help channels05:15
kalenedraelso it's hard to keep track of what's what...05:16
_johnheh05:16
_johnnifty05:16
_johnwhat distro do you use?05:16
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kalenedraelkubuntu05:16
_johnyeah, i liek it  too.  great distro.05:16
kalenedraeli wouldn't hang out in here if i weren't, i guess05:16
malvanyone else know that they have adobe acrobat reader 7.0 for linux?05:19
_johni dunno05:19
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manuel_Hi, do you know how do I enable the preview feature of apollon?05:19
manuel_it says "Media player could not be loaded"05:20
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manuel_Hi, do you know how do I enable the preview feature of apollon?05:30
manuel_it says "Media player could not be loaded"05:30
Veloxmanuel_: is the media player you're attempting to preview with installed and configured correctly?05:30
manuel_yes, I have amarok, noatun, kaffeine05:40
manuel_all of them working like a charm05:41
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_johndoes anyone else besides me love how much easier it is to add something to a panel in KDE?05:43
_johnin gnome you have to go through this long list of crap and all this gunk, stupid menus.... in KDE it takes seconds05:43
_johnyeah... just my two cents.05:44
EasterSunshinei wish i could marry kde05:47
manuel_Velox: is it an issue with kubuntu's apollon? because I didn't have those problems with a debian sid05:48
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EasterSunshinei would like to execute something with kdesu so i have permission to do whatever i want with it05:49
EasterSunshine`kdesu touch me`05:49
kalenedraelsudo05:49
kalenedrael...05:49
kalenedraelumm...05:50
staticheh05:50
EasterSunshinebut i want kde to touch me, not some damn superuser05:50
VeloxEmbrace the KDE...open up your Linux side.05:50
VeloxOh, woot. I tried DVD playback in xine for the first time and it passed with flying colors.05:51
VeloxI already knew mpeg playback was good.05:51
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malvanyone here a dedicated programmer that doesn't live on coffee?05:54
SubvertirI live off crank and ramen05:56
Subvertirdoes that count?05:56
statici'd live off coke but coffee is cheaper.05:58
staticalthough i dont code.. .so .. whatever..05:59
staticnothing like an ice cole cocacola.. ahhh.. refreshing.05:59
staticcold*05:59
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Ce_ganazallow06:23
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Terminushelp with kcontrol, please06:37
TerminusI have this error: ASSERT: "!config.isReadOnly()" in /root/kdebase/kdebase-3.4.2/kcontrol/randr/randr.cpp (674)06:37
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Terminuswhen I apply changes in screen06:38
cartel_hmm06:39
cartel_when i goto gmail in konq, i get the standard view06:39
cartel_but, none of the buttons work.06:39
Veloxcartel_: I suggest Mozilla FireFox over Konqueror as a webbrowser.06:40
TerminusI have this error: ASSERT: "!config.isReadOnly()" in /root/kdebase/kdebase-3.4.2/kcontrol/randr/randr.cpp (674)06:41
Terminusin kcontrol, any help, please?06:41
VeloxTerminus: tried reinstalling kcontrol?06:42
Terminuswith apt-get install?06:42
VeloxOr Kyn/Synaptic (I use Synaptic to be honest...far better, even though its from GNOME)06:45
Terminusok, i try this, thanks Velox06:45
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frogtone25hey i need to know how i can get java for kubuntu07:03
frogtone25can anyone help me07:04
Xolevhttp://www.ubuntuguide.com ... take a look at adding extra repositiories, and I believe installing Java is in it too.07:04
frogtone25well ill tell you this07:06
frogtone25i downloaded java from java.com07:06
frogtone25and its a bin file07:06
frogtone25a rpm file is inside of the bin file07:06
frogtone25how do i extract the rpm file from the bin07:07
Xolevalien -i rpmfile.rpm07:09
Xolevalien will output a .deb file, then you can use sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb to install it07:10
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frogtone25ok i know how to extract a rpm file07:15
frogtone25and to install a deb file07:15
frogtone25but i have a rpm inside of a .bin file07:15
frogtone25how do i get the rpm out of it07:15
frogtone25what command do i put into terminal to do this07:15
XolevI gave the answer above.07:17
Xolevalien -i rpmfile.rpm makes a .deb file to install through dpkg.07:17
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_frankfrogtone for java add hoary-extras to your sources.list and install java with kynaptic or synaptic.07:17
_frankthats the best way to do it07:18
_frank1repositories07:18
XolevIndeed.07:18
frogtone25i have a .bin file here07:18
frogtone25i have to open it to get a rpm file out of it07:19
_frankyou can't directly install a rpm07:19
_franktrust me it's better if you add hoary-extras07:19
frogtone25can i post what it says in my terminal07:20
frogtone25root@richardk:/home/frogtone25 # alien -d /home/frogtone25/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin07:20
frogtone25Unknown type of package, /home/frogtone25/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin.07:20
frogtone25this is what it says07:20
frogtone25so you tell me07:21
_franktype sh /home/frogtone25/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin07:21
frogtone25ok07:21
_frankto run the bin first07:21
frogtone25it extracted it07:24
frogtone25and i have now installed java07:24
_frankdoes it work/07:24
frogtone25i dont know 07:24
frogtone25let me check07:25
_frankman for some reason shift doesn't work on my keyboard anymore07:25
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frogtone25ok07:28
frogtone25answer this07:28
frogtone25i have java installed 07:29
frogtone25but i wont work on any of my browsers07:29
frogtone25im using firefox and opera07:29
frogtone25how do i make it work with those browsers07:29
frogtone25well i know why opera wont work07:29
frogtone25it wont let me enable java on it07:30
frogtone25but firefox should be working07:30
frogtone25and it isnt 07:30
frogtone25so please help me07:30
_frankyou didn't use apt-get / synaptic / kynaptic to install, you're on your own07:31
frogtone25well i dont know how to do that07:32
frogtone25ok07:32
frogtone25i tried apt-get07:32
frogtone25it wouldnt work07:32
_frankthis is debian based... you should always use apt first07:32
frogtone25i did07:33
_frankyou need to add hoary-extras07:33
frogtone25it wouldnt work07:33
_frankto your sources07:33
frogtone25how do i do that07:33
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Xolevhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org07:33
XolevFind the section on "adding extra repositories"07:33
XolevI believe theres also how to install Java as well.07:33
frogtone25ive done been here07:34
frogtone25i messed up my synaptic last time using those addresses07:34
XolevYou obviously didn't do it correctly then07:34
frogtone25and the java they tell you to install with apt-get doesnt exist07:34
frogtone25well tell me how you should do it 07:35
_frankfrogtone25: oh... maybe you're right there was a problem with hoary-extras today. something is fucked somewhere07:35
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XolevCopy and paste what they give, replacing whats in /etc/apt/sources.list07:35
frogtone25yeah i know07:36
Xolev_frank: Is there? I haven't tried anything today.07:36
Poromiesfrogtone25: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation07:36
_franki don't know the details only that something was not working07:36
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frogtone25well i can tell you that they have been adding new stuff on there07:38
frogtone25i have a mac osx panther theme on here right now07:38
frogtone25top buttons and all07:38
frogtone25and i got it on synaptics07:38
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frogtone25ive never seen it on there before07:39
Poromiesis it the baghera theme (or something like that?)07:39
Poromiesit's been in repos for a while :] 07:40
frogtone25ive never seen it before07:43
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tencowhy does adept need over 50 megs of disk space?07:57
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frogtone25i have a question08:04
frogtone25what is the name of the program for kubuntu that runs off of the itunes music store servers08:05
frogtone25i saw it in synaptic the other day 08:05
frogtone25and i can find it08:05
_frankpymusique or something like thta/08:05
frogtone25or ok08:06
_franknot sure08:06
frogtone25ok 08:06
frogtone25i found it08:06
tencowhy does adept need over 50 megs of disk space?08:06
frogtone25but it says that i need a version of python that i cant find on there08:07
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vot3how do i change my 'preferred appications' in kde?08:34
vot3such as the terminal program it uses when you select terminal08:34
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skplcan someone tell me how to install the font 'freesans' for kinsole?08:45
Tonkahow do i put the trash icon on the desktop? i'm kubuntu with kde 5.4. :-)08:46
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skplcan someone tell me why programs i download always open with a program called kate instead of with something else? like file manager or archive manager?09:19
jehskpl: deb packages?09:21
skplno, this is a gzip file09:21
jehshould open with ark or similar09:22
jehi've seen deb:s being opened with kate. slightly useless :)09:22
skpleverything i download opens with kate for some reason09:24
skpldo you have any idea why?09:24
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BROKEN_LADDERhow do i add enlightenment to my kdm list?09:34
fatejudgerthis is going to sound like a stupid question but after tweaking the kde eye candy / system performance stuff the entire Kubuntu theme got replaced with this disgusting blue theme09:36
fatejudgerand the fonts are tiny09:36
fatejudgeris there some default theme09:36
fatejudgerthat I can switch back to09:37
fatejudger?09:37
tencowhy does adept need over 50 megs of disk space?09:37
BROKEN_LADDERack09:37
BROKEN_LADDERi don't get this09:37
_buzand why would installing it rip half kubuntu apart09:38
tenco_buz: really? it only deinstalled kynaptic and synaptic on my machine09:38
tenco_buz: kde 3.4.0?09:38
_buzmhh it wanted to change a shitload of stuff on mine09:39
_buzno 3.4.209:39
nikkialol09:39
nikkia'intel sets sights on digital living room'09:39
nikkiahey, intel, you're too late, IBM already won!09:39
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Tonkaplease help me put the trash icon on my kubuntu desktop. right now its in the tray.09:46
tencohow can i get bash to rehash $PATH?09:47
nikkiatonka, edit Trash.desktop in your Desktop directory, and change 'Hidden=true' to 'Hidden=false'09:48
nikkiatenco: hash -r09:48
tencothanks09:48
Tonkathanks mikkia. will try that.09:48
tencois a adept hacker here?09:50
tencoan*09:50
tencohow can i search in the package descriptions with adept?09:53
tencouhm, why did they announce this release? it even can not do the most important task a package manager should: install packages09:56
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fatejudgercan somebody with the default config go into their color settings and tell me what they are?09:57
fatejudgerI can't seem to figure it out09:58
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Subvertirplaying guitar is hard =(10:12
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nikkiamorning apokryphos10:26
apokryphosHallo, how are you?10:27
nikkiameh10:27
apokryphossounds good :P10:29
nikkiajust had to hack Point2Play to work :P10:29
nikkiatheir python script to detect your system settings only recognises a few distros, and crashes if you're not on the list10:29
apokryphosseems silly10:30
nikkiaindeed...10:30
nikkia'and I'm paying MONEY for this ??!?!' :P10:30
apokryphosfinding it weird getting up thsi early; house sounded so up-and-going, and I thought it *must* be around 12. Guess not. :/10:30
apokryphosmuch?10:30
nikkia3/mo, the usual transgaming fee10:31
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stefhello all :-)10:33
stefI try to use klamav 10:34
stefI installed it but when I start klamav the configfile is not writeable10:34
thoreauputicnikkia: if it's of any interest: apparently konsole uses a daemon called something like "utempter" to increment users etc (not included in kubuntu afaik)10:34
thoreauputicre: previous discussion about utmp etc10:35
stefis there more configuration needet? ANd what shall I do?10:35
nikkiathoreauputic: ah, interesting10:35
stefcan someone help?10:35
stefI installed klamav via a.deb -file10:39
stefmaybe this was not a good idea?10:40
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stefwhen I start klamav under console I get the message "/var/tmp/kdecache-stef" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.10:46
stefwhat is to do?10:46
nikkiait has to be run as root, obviously10:46
nikkiatry kdesu klamav10:46
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stefhmm but its antivirus . Should this not be run as a normal user?10:47
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NeEdLovehi10:47
nikkiastef, why do you need clamav anyway ?10:48
nikkia(i ask, because i have a nasty feeling you don't really understand what it does, and are just installing it out of habit of thinking you need antivirus)10:48
stefIm looking for an easy to use antivir solution10:48
stefThere is  anned for installing a file server by a friend and he has no expierence with linux10:49
stefso , a simple to use gui is the best solution10:49
steffor him10:50
nikkiastef, see, clamav is designed to scan email/shared directories, and as such runs as root as a daemon, now, klamav is, i presume, a front end control panel for it, and because clamav runs as root, klamav probably needs to too10:50
stefhmmm, okay but when I use kdesu klamav I have the same messages10:51
nikkiayeah, its the old running KDE programs as root problem :/10:52
stefold problem? no solution for it?10:53
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nikkiastef, the problem is, klamav appears to be expecting to be run as root, from within KDE running as root10:53
nikkiastef, there is no easy way to run KDE as root on kubuntu, and it wouldn't be recommended anyway10:53
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nikkiait sounds like a monumentally bad design on the part of klamav to me10:54
stefnikkia, how should I use it under kubuntu? maybe under sarge is it better?10:54
nikkiastef, is klamav absolutely necessary ?10:55
nikkiabecause i wouldn't trust an app that is security related when it makes so utterly bad security related design decisions :)10:56
stefno, not klamav. When there is another solution I can live with that10:56
nikkiaits a bit like having a locksmith tell you 'don't lock your door for a couple of days, to let the lock settle in'10:56
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stefokay, you are right10:57
stefbut what I should use instead?10:58
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stefyou have to know , there is a firm and they have a M$ -lan10:58
stefthey need win for development (Powerbuilder)10:59
nikkiastef, i have nothing against clamav10:59
stefbut I can change some Servers to linux10:59
nikkiastef, you do realise clamav != klamav, right?10:59
nikkiathat klamav is just a GUI to clamav11:00
stefAnd in a win lan without an antivir solution?11:00
nikkiastef, run clamav :)11:00
nikkiaklamav is NOT a virus scanner, it is a GUI program that lets you configure/access clamav, which IS a virus scanner11:01
stefyes I understand this.11:01
stefI was haappy to see agui for it11:01
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stefso the the admin there can use it easily11:01
nikkiastef, its a bit pointless if the GUI insists on you using insanely bad security practices to use it tho11:02
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stefhmmm..11:02
stefIs there another "gui-Scanner" ?11:03
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tencoi have problems with wpa_supplicant11:13
tencoi always get: Disconnect event - remove keys11:13
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nikkiatch!11:20
stef?11:20
nikkiamy boss just called me asking if i could upload *all* my source code and data files so he can 'tinker' with it at home11:20
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blaqhey guys, is there a way for me to mount a smb share through a gui interface?11:34
blaqunfortunately most programs aren't recognising remote:/ and smb:// and I don't want to have to trawl through man pages and conf files to get these shares mounted properly11:35
tenco_the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\11:35
blaqwhen i used to use mandrake, it had a module in its system configuration and maintenance utility that would provide me with a nice graphical interface to /etc/fstab.conf and i was wondering if (k)ubuntu had the same11:36
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rob^I managed to turn my ubuntu desktop into a kde/gnome halfbreed, how to I undo the changes that the GTK style thingy changed?11:41
rob^at the moment I have qt widgets where the gtk ones should be11:41
rob^and kde fonts instead of gnome11:42
floerob^: Mabey you could set it in the kde control center. If the appropriate module is installed (which seems to be)... GTK Styles and Fonts.11:42
rob^yes, how do I completly undo it11:43
floerob^: KControl->Appearance And Themes->GTK Styles And Fonts11:43
rob^yes, but its taken over from gnome themes etc11:43
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floerob^_: Mabe set it to "default" style... I'm not sure. I never use Gnome just some gtk apps. Sry.11:44
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rob^I'll try removing kde and see what happens11:47
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tenco_the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\11:48
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sxeare there any broken kernel pakages on kubuntu? After dist-upgrading i cant start kubuntu hoary.12:13
sxei get only a black screen on startup12:13
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sxei remember, that there were updates conserning kernel modules.. i think that is the problem..12:19
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skalpelcan someone recommend a good ftp client for kde?12:25
nikkiaskalpel: kbear, if you can use it without it crashing12:26
nikkiafailing that, konqueror works, albeit horribly slowly12:26
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nikkiaif you want a true ftp client, that is rock-solid stable, you usually end up having to go to the command line ftp clients tho12:27
skalpelyou dont sound hopeful12:28
nikkiaskalpel: i like kbear, but it is horribly crashy12:28
skalpelwhy do you like it then?12:29
nikkiaskalpel: nice UI, nice feature list12:29
skalpeldo you know of an irc client for kde that supports transparency?12:29
nikkiaskalpel: kvirc (not the version in the repositories though)12:29
nikkia2.whatever that's in the repos. is about 18mo out of date12:30
otepdoes anyone ever encounter this:12:30
oteperror: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub12:31
skalpeli usually do not run anything that is not in the repositories12:31
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hettarAnyone running breezy kubuntu ?? and if so is it useable yet ?12:35
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otepdoes anyone ever encounter this:12:38
oteperror: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub12:38
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kainoswer can i get a source list thats got more stable downloads>12:53
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pl_ice_hi01:00
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Rogue_Jedi_Zerohettar: I didn't have much luck last time I tried01:23
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroTo install breezy, I mean01:23
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pl_ice_hey, can someone tell howto backup my iptables?01:42
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dePOLLHey guys. Is there any way to get kio_svn for my (K)Ubuntu Hoary without much hastle? Somehow it seems to be missing in the official repositories Oo01:48
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Kitty-Kunhello!01:57
_buzhow comes that lm_sensors reports everything but fan speed on my k8v?01:59
_buzsome fan speed info would be rather handy for tweaking01:59
Kamping_Kaiserhi Kitty-Kun02:00
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nikkiawoohoo02:08
nikkianow thats some serious gratuitus eye candy02:08
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_stefDoes anyone know if there is a good open source ego shooter for linux available? 02:19
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_stefor other good games?02:19
_stefmaybe old atari?02:19
nikkiastef, Q3A ?02:19
_stefQ3A? what is trhat and where can I get this?02:20
nikkiaits open source, but you have to pay for the data files :)02:20
nikkiastef, Quake 3 Arena02:20
nikkiastef, if you want free as in no money, and don't care quite so much about 'open source', then there's America's Army and Return To Castle Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory02:21
_stefokay I have a look for that02:22
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tommelMoin!02:36
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BagsHello all. 02:45
Kamping_Kaiserhi02:45
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BagsI've got a problem with KDEPrint on a PPC and I was wondering if any of you kind and helpful, beautiful people would be feeling in the mood to offer a helping hand in this cruel and doomed worl in which we all live...02:46
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BagsI've set up a HP Photosmart 7150 colour printer on one of the USB ports, it's detected, but the print jobs just sit there in the queue and do nothing...02:48
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BagsIt's a G3 (Lombard) PowerBook. 02:49
BagsNon-FW. 02:49
BagsNew World all the same. 02:49
BagsIt prints to the very same printer served up on a Windows XP box via Samba. 02:49
BagsBut when connected locally, she don't verk mate...02:50
BagsNutink. 02:50
BagsShe's a bustid.. 02:50
BagsI don'ta no vata kuda be vronga, mate,,,02:51
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BagsThe lights, she's a blinking and the motors are verring...02:51
BagsButa no a printa de paipa...02:52
BagsAny ideas? 02:52
BagsFolks? 02:52
BagsAm I the only person in this IRC room? 02:53
BagsOr is everyone else just watching me making a fool of myself here... ? 02:53
nikkiamostly that02:53
Bags:-)02:54
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apokryphos:P02:54
Bagslol02:54
nikkiathat and i was plugging in my shiny new netgear switch02:54
BagsBut seriously, folks, have any of you had this sort of thing before? 02:55
apokryphosooOOoo02:55
nikkiaoddly not the switch i ordered, however02:55
nikkiawell, it is, and it isn't02:55
BagsI have a new router, as of this afternoon. 02:55
_buznetgear per definition isnt shiny 02:55
BagsNetgear. 02:55
apokryphoscongrats02:55
nikkiaaccording to netgear, the FS108 has 1 uplink/normal port with a front panel switch02:55
BagsWGR614 v502:55
nikkiaaccording to the box in front of me, it has MDI-X on all 8 ports02:55
_buznetgears specs are pure fantasy02:55
nikkiabuz, their professional (blue) stuff is great02:55
nikkiabuz, their consumer products are no worse than linksys, etc02:56
BagsThis one seems ok. 02:56
_buzlinksys you can at least hack02:56
nikkiabuz, whats to hack in a switch??02:56
_buzi paid for a simple wirless router02:56
BagsWell, that's handy...02:56
_buzand what did i make of it?02:56
_buzone that supports wds, vpn, qos and some other things i forgot about02:57
BagsBrown and handy... CUPS anyone? 02:57
_buzcup d is good, yes02:57
Kitty-Kunhow do i set up a scanner in kde?02:59
nikkiaapokryphos: btw, my boss has a surprise in store02:59
apokryphosnikkia: an extra job for you!02:59
nikkiaapokryphos: he wanted messages in the message window to 'disappear after a time, so as not to confuse users', i made them auto-fade after a preset time :P02:59
apokryphosright03:00
apokryphosoh, that was the surprise :P03:02
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apokryphosthese days are busybusybusy; it's like being at school. Good and bad.03:03
apokryphosArr well, food; back later.03:03
Kitty-Kunhelp please03:04
Kitty-Kun...03:04
apokryphos!helpme03:05
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.03:05
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Kitty-KunI ALREADY ASKED03:08
Kitty-Kunhow do i set up a scanner in kde?03:08
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stefI just installed apache2 but its not running03:14
stefnmap 127.0.0.1 gives me not an open port8003:15
stefI looked around for somme logs03:15
stefbut couldnt find anything important03:15
stefbrowsing the default page has also no result03:16
Kamping_Kaisertried connecting to localhost?03:16
Kamping_Kaiserand is it not running or not connecting out?03:16
apokryphosKitty-Kun: when you open up Kooka you should be able to from there03:16
stefyes itz seems not running03:17
stefbut I can do an apache restart without an error03:17
apokryphosif it restarts then it should really be running after...03:17
Kamping_Kaiserso is it on localhost?03:17
stefyes03:17
apokryphosis apache not running, or can you just not view it?03:17
Kamping_Kaiserand 127.0.0.1?03:18
apokryphosYou shouldn't have to, but I recall someone having to chmod www/ before viewing anything :/03:18
Kamping_Kaiserprobably not world x :|03:18
Kitty-Kunwhat's kooka?03:18
stefand what is the best value for chmod in this case?03:18
apokryphos66603:18
Kitty-KunO_o03:19
apokryphos!info kooka03:19
ubotukooka: (Scanner program for KDE), section graphics, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 720 kB, Installed size: 1160 kB03:19
Kamping_Kaisernot 666 :o03:19
Kamping_Kaiser75503:19
Kitty-Kunso use sudo apt-get install kooka?03:19
apokryphossure03:19
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Kamping_Kaiserme sure apokryphos? yeh03:20
apokryphosNo... "sure" as in "yes. that's what you do"03:21
Kamping_Kaiseroh right ;)03:21
Kamping_Kaisersorry03:21
stefI tried chmod 755 /var/www but no result03:21
stefalll the same03:21
dePOLLHey guys. Is there any way to get kio_svn for my (K)Ubuntu Hoary without much hastle? Somehow it seems to be missing in the official repositories Oo03:21
Kamping_Kaiserstef: is the problem accessing it from another computer?03:22
apokryphosstef: is apache running, for sure?03:22
Kamping_Kaiseraparently he can see localhost03:22
stefHow can i get sure that its running?03:22
Kamping_Kaiserso it's running localy at least03:22
apokryphosso how exactly is it not working?03:22
apokryphosoh, others can't view it?03:22
Kamping_Kaiserapokryphos: that's what I'm trying to find out :)03:22
apokryphosif you can view localhost then it's of course running03:23
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hatake_kakashianyone would happen to know how to disable the use of IPv6 and use only IPv4?03:23
stefNo, I cant see localhost03:23
Kamping_Kaiseroh ok 03:24
Kamping_Kaiserthen it's not running 03:24
hatake_kakashistef, ifconfig lo up03:24
stefand from other machine also no access03:24
BagsHaving trouble printing to a HP7150 via USB and CUPS. I've a PPC G3 Powerbook and Kubuntu. It sees the printer but the jobs stop in the queue. This machine prints to the very same printer when it's served on a Windows XP machine, but when connected locally, it doesn't work.. .Any ideas? 03:24
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: what program03:25
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser, just for dhclient03:25
Kamping_Kaiserstef. did you restart apache using sudo?03:25
hatake_kakashibecause it is not getting the address03:25
stefyes nothing is starting it seems03:25
Kamping_Kaiserhatake_kakashi: not sure03:26
hatake_kakashistef, check to see if apache maybe is running in the background via 'ps' command03:26
hatake_kakashiKamping_Kaiser, hmm :/ it is not getting any dhcpoffer even though dmesg shows output that the eth0 was detected.. I started looking through the manpages of ifconfig and ipv603:27
stef ps dont show me apache2 :(03:27
stefps -A03:28
Kamping_Kaiserstef 'ps aux |grep apache'03:28
Kamping_Kaiserwithout the 's03:28
stef that gives: root      8213  0.0  0.1   2964   756 pts/1    R+   15:28   0:00 grep apache203:29
apokryphosstef: please don't write in red by default03:29
Kamping_Kaiserstef: it's not running. are you sure it's installed?03:30
stefI reinstalled all with synaptic03:30
stefso it should be installed03:30
apokryphosdpkg -l|grep apache2   ...gives?03:31
stefwhere can I post that Pastebin.com?03:32
Kamping_Kaiseror #flood03:32
stefopkay here: http://pastebin.com/34587903:33
stefseems all okay03:34
apokryphosit is installed; hmm03:34
Kamping_Kaiserstef: run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" and then "ps aux |grep apache"03:35
Kamping_Kaiserbbs03:35
apokryphossudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start03:35
apokryphosdid you do that after you installed apache?03:35
Kamping_Kaiseruse the init scripts03:35
stefno03:36
stefthat was it, it seems!!!03:37
hatake_kakashiok, I believe kubuntu uses PAM and LDAP to use auth.. so is there a way to allow xorg to allow certain users?03:37
stefbut the default site is not shown03:39
apokryphos?03:39
stefonly a list of directorys03:39
stefconfig?03:39
hatake_kakashistef, its most likely your apache2 config03:40
Kamping_Kaiserstef: can you open the directories03:40
Kamping_Kaiser?03:40
hatake_kakashicheck the conf files03:40
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stefyes I can open it apache2-default then it shows me the default site03:41
Kamping_Kaiserconfig03:41
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jwayneWhen I'm writing make in a catalog containing a makefile I get the following error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.03:45
Kamping_Kaiserjwayne: have you run configure?03:47
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jwayneSorry forgot this line allso: make: *** [default]  Error 203:48
jwayne./configure: make: *** [default]  Error 203:48
jwayneno. ./configure gets me: bash: make:: command not foun03:50
Kamping_Kaiserhm. sure you have build-essential?03:50
jwayneno03:50
Kamping_Kaiserbetter check03:51
jwaynehow do I do that?03:51
jwaynein synaptic?03:51
Kamping_Kaiseryeh, if you want :0. synaptic/ apt/aptitude/ kynaptic :)03:51
jwaynestill nothig03:53
Kamping_Kaiserhm.03:54
Kamping_Kaiser!build-essentials03:54
ubotuKamping_Kaiser: I don't know03:54
jwaynecan it be somthing with the headers?03:54
Kamping_Kaiser!build-essential03:54
ubotuKamping_Kaiser: Did you get hit by a windmill?03:54
Kamping_Kaiser!build-essential03:55
Kamping_Kaiserhm. oh well03:55
apokryphos!info build-essential03:56
Kamping_Kaiseryou need them :) do you have them? g03:56
ubotubuild-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB03:56
jwaynehow do i check?03:56
apokryphosconfigure would fail if you didn't have bulid-essential03:56
apokryphosif you're on to make, then I presume it hasn't?03:57
Kamping_Kaiserlooks like configure failed to me, but *shrugs* i can ohnly see 2 lines :)03:57
jwaynei have buils-essential03:57
apokryphoswhat's the configure error then? What's the error output?03:57
jwayneand the headers03:57
apokryphosit will tell you exactly the problem :)03:57
jwaynebash: ./configure: No such file or directory03:58
apokryphosthat obviously means there's no configure in the directory that you are currently in03:58
jwayneIm not sure i have to run configure03:58
apokryphoswhat application is it/03:58
jwaynethere are allready a makefile03:58
apokryphosthat doesn't mean you have to configure now03:59
mornfallomg jjesse03:59
jwayneits bcm5700-8.1.55 (drivers for my eth0) 03:59
jwaynetar:ed from a open source04:00
jwayneinto a tmp directory04:00
apokryphosread the README or INSTALL file that it probably comes with04:01
jwaynedone that04:02
jwayneit says untar into a directory04:02
jwaynethen: make04:02
apokryphosso go for it04:02
apokryphoswhat's the error?04:02
jwaynewait04:03
jwayneit was something with the headers04:05
jwaynereinstalled them04:05
jwayneand it is woring04:05
jwayneworking04:05
jwaynesolved it after 5h04:05
jwayne:-(04:05
jwaynenewbee ass you se...04:06
apokryphos:)04:06
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jwaynenow i installed the driver with "make install" - it say04:12
jwaynethe documention says that its optional to patch it into the kernel04:13
jwaynewhat reasons are there for patching it?04:13
jwayneand how do I check that the driver realy are loaded04:15
jwayneits a driver for a ehernet card as I said before04:15
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claviolahi folks.  I'm a kde user, but I use plain old boring debian, so I'm wondering what changes did kubuntu do to kde.  I hear you guys have hal+udev+etc support like GNOME's, which I don't have here04:54
amuclaviola: see http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/04:56
apokryphosAnd far quicker at packaging :)04:57
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claviolaamu: hi :)04:59
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amuclaviola: hi 05:05
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nikkiaapokryphos: oi!05:09
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frans-th:P05:09
apokryphosnikkia: oieeoi05:10
nikkiaapokryphos: tell your crazy relatives to stop calling me :P05:10
apokryphosThere's no way to stop them, I'm afraid.05:10
apokryphosThey out-argue me everytime05:10
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apokryphoshaha05:11
apokryphosyou should've told me earlier; I'd give you responses ;-)05:11
nikkiaapokryphos: i doubt i could have transcribed what she was saying anyway05:12
apokryphosnikkia: did you say you'd seen My Big Fat Greek Wedding?05:12
cezmican somebody help me about GRUB?05:12
nikkiaapokryphos: i'd have been lying if i had05:13
apokryphosnikkia: o_O. Criminal. You gotta see it. :D05:13
nikkiawow, this is exciting05:13
apokryphosIt's scary how similar our family is, in manyways.05:14
apokryphosGive me any word, and I'll show you how it comes from a Greek one :P05:14
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nikkiaand once more ITV scrapes the bottom of the barrel with voice-controlled puyo puyo05:15
apokryphosnikkia: wathced so little TV lately I found it odd when I actually did yesterday05:16
nikkiaapokryphos: same here, really05:16
apokryphosthinking about it, BB was pretty much the only thing I was watching at one point05:16
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nikkiaapokryphos: however, my 'computer room' TV is always left on, for my xbox05:17
nikkiaapokryphos: and when i turned the power back on after the storm passed, it came back on on ITV, and i haven't bothered to turn it off yet05:17
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apokryphosyou turn power off during storm there?05:18
nikkiaapokryphos: i did during that one05:18
nikkiawait until it hits you in a few minutes05:18
apokryphosSounds like you get some real mean ones there05:18
nikkiait went from 'daylight' to 'OMG, its night? where's the light switch?' in about 3 seconds05:18
apokryphosstarted drizzling earlier here; I wish we had thunderstorms. I quite like them, really. :)05:19
_stefhello, new problem05:19
apokryphosRadical weather changes05:19
nikkiaapokryphos: and as storms go, that was scary for the UK, saw much worse in the US of course...05:19
_stef I want to hear music but I cant mount the cdrom with music on it, data cd is okay05:19
_stefwhat went wrong?05:19
_stefsince yesterday I was able to hear music05:20
nikkiastef, you don't 'mount' audio CDs05:20
_stef?05:20
apokryphosit's not a filesystem05:20
_stefI see05:20
nikkiastef, you can use the KDE ioslaves to listen to music by using media://  and opening the cd from there05:20
nikkiaor you can use something like xmms to play the audio cd05:20
_stefbut when I use kscd then t I have a read error05:21
apokryphosor audiocd:/05:22
nikkiawell, thats another 180 gone :/05:23
apokryphoswhatwhat05:24
_stefwith audiocd I get an error that the cd drive does not exist05:24
nikkiaapokryphos: just ordering some more stuff :P05:24
_stefbut with data cd I can mount the drive05:25
apokryphosnikkia: those two computers not arrived yet?05:25
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nikkiaapokryphos: nope05:25
apokryphos_stef: yes05:25
nikkiaapokryphos: well, that i know of, my boss is on holiday til tuesday05:25
nikkiawell, 'holiday', he's testing my game, muhahahahha05:25
nikkiapayback is sweet05:25
apokryphos8)05:25
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nikkiaapokryphos: its not as fun as it sounds05:28
apokryphosFor ya'll, I'm sure.05:28
apokryphosbe back in a bit05:29
_stefI dont know what is wrong since yesterday i could here music. What is happened?05:29
_steftill yesterday05:29
nikkiastef, dunno, did you reboot ?05:30
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_stefyes I have done that 05:30
_stefthats the first thing I do in case of such problems05:31
nikkiano, i was meaning, if you rebooted, it might be that a module you had loaded before, isn't anymore05:31
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cezmican somebody help me05:32
_stefahh  I see05:32
_stefwhat a module could it be?05:32
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Tm_Tnikkia: I can feel your pain :/05:33
nikkiaTm_T: ?05:34
Tm_Tnothing =)05:34
_stefwhat is the music-module ;-)   ?05:35
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apokryphosnikkia: that cheap HSBC mp3-player arrived... and it *almost* came with a free battery (i.e. it didn't). 05:43
apokryphosnikkia: wanna place bets on its life-expectency? ;)05:43
nikkiaheh05:43
nikkiaapokryphos: i bet its the same as the bush '64MB' player i have here05:44
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apokryphosHas "Digital Player" in big flashy letters on the box05:44
apokryphosthe player itself looks... tacky as plastic :P05:44
nikkia(they claim 64MB by counting the fact that WMA files at 64kbps are 'just as good' as MP3 at 128kbps, and thus you can fit twice as many on its 32MB flash05:44
apokryphosomg05:45
nikkiaapokryphos: yeah, thats what i thought too05:45
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apokryphosthis is 512 -- surprising05:45
apokryphosunfortunately, I'm sure it won't make it last a day longer05:45
nikkiathats not too bad05:45
apokryphosI'm saying a week-and-a-half05:45
apokryphos(if I use it)05:46
apokryphosthe first tacky one I got was around two weeks05:46
nikkiahttp://nikki.sexadelic.com/~nikki/mp3.png <- crappy mp3 player :)05:49
_stefokay the musi problem is that my cdrom1 under /dev is away05:49
nikkia_stef, ahh, that's a udev issue05:49
_stefHow can I add  the cdrom drive?05:49
_stefudev?05:49
nikkia_stef, udev by default assigns every cdrom it finds to /dev/cdrom, thus if you have 2, they both get to be /dev/cdrom  and thus only the second one is visible05:49
apokryphosnikkia: woo, mine has a screen 8)05:50
nikkia_stef, udev is the new way that /dev gets generated05:50
nikkiaapokryphos: heh05:50
apokryphoslooks like the average cheap mp3 player; the little ones05:50
_stefI see05:50
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nikkiaapokryphos: even more amazing, is, that POS is actually USB 2.005:50
_stefand what shall I do now?05:50
apokryphoshah! How long ago?05:50
nikkiaapokryphos: and it is, at least, just a dumb usb-storage device05:50
nikkiaapokryphos: a year?05:50
apokryphosnikkia: with 64 megs of space you need fast-transfer05:50
apokryphos:P05:50
nikkiaapokryphos: as you can tell, just, by the pic... the left end pulls off to reveal a USB connector05:51
nikkia_stef, for now, create a /dev/cdrom1  link that points to the actual device node05:52
apokryphosaha; mine's like this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UK-Seller-512MB-USB-MP3-Player-512-MB-Pen-Disk-Drive_W0QQitemZ5233885306QQcategoryZ51074QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting05:52
nikkiait'll be /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd or so05:52
nikkiaapokryphos: oh, its one of those05:52
nikkiaapokryphos: those are made by a decent company, iirc, philips? 05:52
apokryphosmine's not exactly the same as that, but similar05:53
apokryphosthe one I have almost surely isn't05:53
apokryphosno manual, just an unbranded box05:53
nikkiaHmmmm05:53
nikkiathats odd05:53
nikkiai just plugged that mp3 player in...05:53
nikkiaand on LFS its reporting 62MB05:53
apokryphos:-O05:53
nikkiaon knoppix, it said it was a 32MB partition05:54
apokryphosso all along... 05:54
apokryphosheh05:54
nikkianot much use tho, it has one album on there and its full05:54
apokryphosI'm actually wondering why I didn't take the 10 CDs05:55
apokryphoswonder what I was thinking :/05:55
apokryphosthey're more fun to throw around than an mp3-player05:56
nikkiaapokryphos: ah, its 'Ministry of Sound'05:56
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frogtone25hello05:57
frogtone25i need to know how you change cursors on kubuntu05:57
OculusAquilaein the control center at mouse05:58
frogtone25ok05:58
_stefI tried a udev restart05:58
nikkia_stef, it won't do any good unless you rewrite the udev rules05:59
frogtone25ok i tried to get the cursor theme to work on here06:00
frogtone25but it says its not a valid theme 06:00
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frogtone25how do i make it a valid theme06:00
OculusAquilaewhich theme?06:00
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TakerHI06:01
frogtone25OS X.CurXPTheme06:01
OculusAquilaelink?06:01
frogtone25i know it says xp06:01
OculusAquilaeis it for xp?06:01
frogtone25http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread.php?t=23388&page=1&pp=2006:01
frogtone25maybe06:02
frogtone25but cant i make it work on here06:02
apokryphosyou need to use KDE mouse themes06:02
frogtone25they are .png files06:02
apokryphosor you have to make your own06:02
OculusAquilaefrogtone: look at kde-look.org06:02
OculusAquilaeperhaps http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2232406:02
apokryphosget a mouse theme from there, download it and compare, if you really wanna install that one06:02
TakerHot to add two variables in a bash-scirpt together?06:02
TakerHow06:03
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Taker?06:05
nikkiaTaker: expr06:08
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nikkiaas such:06:09
nikkianikki@nikki:~$ expr 1 + 206:09
Takernikkia: ?06:09
nikkia306:09
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Johnny-Could somebody help me?06:09
TakerJohnny-: Just type your question06:10
apokryphos!helpme06:10
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:10
Johnny-I have installed Kubuntu...but when it tries to boot up normally i get very colorful blinking messed up screen instead of the log in -screen :/06:10
Johnny-I have tried reinstalling06:10
apokryphosfactoid seems a little abrupt, but it's direct ;-)06:10
_stefohhje , dont know what I should do with the udev rule.conf06:10
_stef Is there an easier way?06:11
_stefto add a cdrom?06:11
Johnny-I have got it working one time...but that's it. It was the second time i reinstalled, then it worked...but when i booted it up again same problem...reinstalling did not help :/06:11
apokryphosJohnny-: do you have an ATI/nvidia?06:11
Johnny-Nvidia 6600GT AGP06:11
apokryphosOk. When it starts playing up hit Ctrl + Alt + F1 to go to a different session06:12
Johnny-The color just shift06:12
Johnny-+s06:12
Johnny-Ctrl+alt+delete did not work neither06:12
apokryphosctrl+alt+F1 should take you to a terminal session06:13
apokryphosit doesn't?06:13
Johnny-Hmmm...ill try one more time06:13
Johnny-Takes a while...im on windows now :P06:13
apokryphosF1-F606:13
apokryphosno problem06:13
nikkiahah06:14
Johnny-Hmmmm...now it is just one color when i booted it :D06:14
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nikkiaof all the people in our company.... thunderbird marks ONE person's emails as junk every time06:14
apokryphosheh06:15
Johnny-Ctrl+alt+F1-6 does nothing...06:15
apokryphos:/06:15
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apokryphosYou'll have to try to start Ubuntu in Failsafe session, then06:16
Johnny-And when i am in the recovery console, startx is unknown command and apt-get update&apt-get install says that 74 packets are not upgraded06:16
apokryphoserm, this is hoary right?06:16
Johnny-Yep06:16
apokryphosgo into a recovery console, install the nvidia drivers06:17
Johnny-Downloaded today again...06:17
Johnny-How do i install them?06:17
apokryphossudo aptitude install nvidia-glx06:17
Johnny-Ill give it a go06:17
apokryphos!nvidia06:17
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:17
Johnny-Rebooting...06:20
apokryphoswait06:20
apokryphosdid you follow all the instructions there?06:20
Johnny-Yep06:20
Johnny-But i installed it with sudo apt-get install...06:21
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frogtone25ok 06:21
frogtone25i need some help06:21
Johnny-And it WORKS!!!06:21
apokryphos=)06:21
Johnny-apokryphos, thanks you very very very much dude!06:21
frogtone25i need to know where can i go other than kdelook.org to find some macosx icons for linux 06:21
frogtone25and i need to know how to install theme06:22
Tm_T:/06:22
_danielhello all.  i've got problems with the ibook touchpad06:22
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Tm_T?06:29
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nikkiatm_t, i'd forgotten to make kopete connect after rebooting06:30
nikkiatm_t, so hit the 'connect everything, damn it' button06:30
Tm_Thaha06:30
nikkiawhich now google have IM, runs into the 'dozens' of IM accounts :)06:30
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Tm_Tyep, Kopete supports too many IM-systems =)06:31
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Tm_T"and I have to use all of them!"06:31
Tm_T;)06:32
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_buzis it like normal that amarok crashes all 5 songs06:34
nikkiabuz, IME, yeah :)06:36
Tm_T=)06:36
Tm_T_buz: and version is...06:37
nikkiaoh apok left, that'd explain why he isn't religiously defending amarok :P06:37
Tm_Thaha06:37
Tm_Tbut I'm here!06:37
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Tm_T_buz: well?06:40
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_root:)06:49
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eroscould someone help me a sec06:50
eroshow can i see my windows network06:50
erosin kubuntu06:50
nikkiaeros, open konqueror, type smb:/   in the location06:51
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eroshmm06:51
erosthats wierd06:51
erosidon't see anything06:51
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erosbut in ubuntu everything worked06:51
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Rogue_Jedi_ZeroIt's still broken?06:52
apokryphosno, but composite extension is, and has been for some time.06:53
erosAnyone =] ?06:53
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroOuch06:53
apokryphosget a straight freeze-up on trying to enable it06:53
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroWell, there's still two months to go06:54
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Rogue_Jedi_Zeroeros: Did you leave the window open? The shares don't neccessarily show up immediately06:54
erosyeahj06:54
erosafter a while it gave an error06:54
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroWhich was...?06:55
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erosunable to find any workgroups in local workgroup06:56
erosRogue_Jedi_Zero: any tips07:00
erosi gave my local domain name 07:00
eroswhich I also use for the windows computers07:01
eros(dad,mom) etc07:01
erosBut somehow they don't show up07:01
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroQuite frankly, I'm stumped07:02
erosah07:02
erosanyone else :)?07:02
erosthis is wierd07:03
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroWait, you gave your local domain name? What did you mean by that?07:03
erosnow my others pc's don't see eachother07:03
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erosuehm07:03
eroslike mshome07:03
erosetc07:03
erosin workgroep07:03
eros*oup07:03
Poromieshmmh, do you have windowsXP's firewall enabled or something, sounds quite odd07:03
Poromies:)07:04
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroSo your mom and dad use the same workgroup07:04
erosyeah07:04
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erosnope07:04
eroswin xp is out of the question07:04
erosI hate that little bugger :>07:04
spiralhi07:04
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Rogue_Jedi_ZeroTry typing smb://mshome then07:04
Rogue_Jedi_ZeroOther than that, I'm out of ideas07:05
Rogue_Jedi_Zeromshome being your domain name07:05
eroscould not connect07:06
erosto "..."07:06
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Johnny-How can i mount ntfs partion in to Kubuntu?07:17
TakerJohnny-: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/directory07:18
TakerJohnny-: and if you want to access by a user -o uid=username07:18
Johnny-Oookey...07:19
TakerJohnny-: But notice: mount ntfs read only07:19
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_buzTaker: the linux ntfs project claims they can do rw07:28
_buzbut how does one get rw to work07:28
EasterSunshine_buz: its highly unrecommened but pass rw,umask=000 to it07:32
_buzi just trashed the last ntfs partition in my system (a xfs one replaced it) but thanks for the info ;)07:32
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bjorn_hey07:42
bjorn_I'm trying to login to KDE07:42
bjorn_but i'm getting alot of errors07:42
bjorn_like dcop not running ?07:42
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apokryphosbjorn_: how did you isntall? Did you not sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?08:03
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jkyrohello08:05
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gsuvegre08:47
gsuveganyone know that gmail can send message to kopete if i get new mail into gmail ?08:48
Tm_T#kopete propably knows08:53
Tm_TI'd say no08:53
gdhI wouldn't be surprised with the Google Talk stuff :)08:54
gdhYay for Google and Jabber08:54
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Tm_Tyuk for all but rc ;)09:02
Tm_Ts/rc/irc09:02
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chakiedoes kubuntu follow the release schedule of ubuntu + some extra time for kde?09:02
Tm_Tmaybe09:02
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Tm_Troadmap09:02
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frogtone25can you change the boot screen on here09:10
frogtone25is it possible09:10
frogtone25does anyone know if it is or not09:10
^Cricket^anyone know where i can get koffice?09:14
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frogtone25synaptic09:20
frogtone25try that09:20
frogtone25go into synaptic and click search09:20
frogtone25and put koffice09:21
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jjessemornfall: did you get my email about adept i sent you?09:31
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slow-motionhi09:33
mornfalljjesse: yeah, it is a bit ill-informed though09:34
mornfalljjesse: the "errors" there are debconf warnings and dpkg output09:34
jjessemornfall: ok09:34
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jjessemornfall: also i doubt that it is working correctly, installed phpmyadmin thrugh adept and i don't think it instaleld everything correctly09:35
jjessemornfall:  wth adept thru simple apt-get on a different kubuntu system just installed phpmyadmin and it instaled apache and mysql and phpmyadmin, started both of those up then09:36
mornfalljjesse: you may doubt as much as you like09:36
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mornfalljjesse: the only difference i can think of is recommends handling09:37
jjessemornfall: i tried to install mysql-server-4.1 thru adept and it said it was complete however couldn't start mysql09:38
jjessemornfall: had to install mysql-server-4.1 thru apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 to get it to work09:38
mornfalllet me try09:39
mornfallhoary?09:39
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jjesseyes hoary09:40
mornfallinstalling mysql now09:41
mornfalljjesse: it started just fine09:42
mornfallif you can give a more detailed report, i can retry... but i somehow doubt your problem is related to adept at all09:44
mornfall(and apt-get install phpmyadmin does _not_ install mysql-server)09:45
jjessehmm ok looking into and ill get you a more detailed reprot once i figure it out09:46
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mornfall--> food09:49
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slow-motioni want to mount my windows drives as rw not only as ro, do i also need the option user in /etc/fstab?09:55
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mornfallslow-motion: only possible with vfat i believe (not ntfs)09:59
slow-motionyes vfat10:00
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slow-motionand what exactly does "defaults" mean? can i keep it and write rw,user behind it?10:01
mornfallyeah, sure10:01
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slow-motionok, i be back in a few minutes10:04
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slow-motionhm, my vfat drives seem to be writeabla, but root owns it10:13
slow-motionit is my f*cking drive, how can i own own it?10:15
peakerslow-motion: Did you mount it manually?10:16
slow-motionno with /etc/fstab10:16
peakerslow-motion: There's the uid/gid option, you can set uid/gid to be your user10:17
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peakerbut I think here it did this automatically, when I used kde's media access10:17
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slow-motionPeaker is the uid/gid option in the options section?10:20
bazanHey are you using gmail via pop3?10:20
Firetechanyone else here that experiences that kicker renders SVG icons (at least Crystal SVG) much brighter than it should? (Kubuntu hoary, KDE 3.4.2)10:23
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slow-motionmy vfat drives are mounted as (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)10:23
_josehola10:23
_josealguien sabe si el amarok se puede poner como applet para que se inicie siempre???10:24
slow-motioni got it. i think10:25
slow-motionin /etc/mtab10:25
slow-motion/dev/hda1 /media/win-c vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 1000 1000 < is that right?10:27
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slow-motion_jose please speak english, that is what most people speak10:27
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slow-motionback in a few minutes10:28
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slow-motionwhere do i set the uid/gid option for my drives to make them writeable?10:33
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slow-motioni made them writeable in the /etc/fstab10:34
slow-motionnow i need to set it so that not root has the rights on the drives10:35
slow-motiondev/hda1       /media/win-c    vfat    defaults,rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0 < is that the right entry?10:38
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slow-motionall right, i can write my windows drives now10:45
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Takerslow-motion: do you have got ntfs oder fat?10:47
slow-motionvfat10:47
slow-motion/dev/hda1       /media/win-c    vfat    defaults,rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  010:48
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_StarScreamhi guys, is there something between hoary and breezy? so i can update broken packages that bug fixes only11:10
_StarScreamthat are* bugfixes 11:10
_StarScreamlike cpufreq stuff and kde 3.4.2 (there are no PPC packages in the link above)11:11
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stefpuh, Im back again11:19
stefI have some problems adding a cdrom11:20
stefon this way I had a crashed init11:20
stefso I have a bit trouble to boot my linux11:20
stefokay No Im here but the old problem still exists11:21
stefIm not able to add a second cdrom11:21
stefCan someone help?11:21
stef I dont know why and where its gone.11:23
stefcause yesterday I could hear music. no I cant't11:24
stefI can mount data cd's but not music cd's11:24
stefI saw that there is no such device under /dev11:25
stefmean /dev/cdrom111:25
stefno such device11:25
stefsilly question: where is it?11:25
stefOr how can I create it?11:26
hussamDoes anybody else see this? some ubuntubackports packages appear as local in synaptic.11:28
hussammaybe I should ask in #ubuntu11:28
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sxestef: on which ide port is your second cdrom?11:28
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stefI mean on the second slave11:32
sxeok .. then try to mount it .. mount /dev/hdd /yourdir11:32
sxe./dev/hdd is the second slave .. hdc the first .. 11:33
stefI have some other partitions here in fstab its /dev/hdg11:35
sxehm.. ok .. :] 11:35
sxedoes it work?11:36
stefno, long message with wrong fs type...11:37
stefthere is a music cd inserted11:37
Blissexhussam: if they have been installed and then they are no longer in the repository.11:37
sxehm..11:37
hussamBlissex: yeah that's what's happening. Samba and other stuff disappeared.11:38
sxei think the kind of cd doesnt change the mount type11:38
stefthats what I dont understand11:38
sxea audio cd is a cd too 11:38
stefIcan mount data cds but not music11:38
hussamBlissex: could it be they are having a problem on the server where the backports files are stored?11:39
sxemaybe the cd has a copyprotektion..11:39
sxeprotection11:39
stefno heard it sometimes here11:39
sxestrange11:39
stefand I tzreid another music cd11:39
Blissexhussam: perhaps, or perhaps they just no longer provide them. Even backports are not forever...11:39
sxesry i cant help you than 11:40
hussamBlissex: at least I managed to install them before they removed them :)11:40
stefhmmm, I'll try my local linux user group...11:40
sxeok11:40
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Blissexhussam: you could just upgrade your system to something current...11:40
stefor someone has spontan an idea?11:40
skalpelhi can someone tell me how to change my default terminal in kubuntu?11:41
skalpelit is using gnome-terminal for some reason11:41
Tm_Terr11:41
hussamBlissex: how? I am on hoary.11:41
Tm_TBlissex: ehm11:41
Blissexhussam: uh? Why did you install Samba from backports then? Hoary has pretty recent Samba...11:42
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Blissexskalpel: depends... Look at 'KDE components:Component Chooser'11:42
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hussamBlissex: hoary has 3.0.10 but I got 3.0.14 from backports when I first installed hoary11:43
chrishello11:43
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Blissexhussam: not worth the bother I'd say... the difference is pretty small.11:44
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skalpelBlissex: i already have 'xterm' as my chosen terminal emulator, but when i choose terminal from my kde menu i get gnome-tterminal11:44
Blissexskalpel: ahhhhh, just edit the menu. First try running 'update-menus' though, just in case.11:45
stefahhh Ihave it :-)11:45
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Rogue_Jedi_XThis may not exactly be (k)ubuntu related, but how would I go about getting a gmail account?11:46
stefIn kscd i just use the another cdrom as my player and switch it than back to the old11:46
stefnow I have music again!! :-)11:46
stef???11:46
skalpelskalpel@emachine:~$ update-menus11:47
skalpelbash: update-menus: command not found11:47
Blissexskalpel: ah, ok, just go ahead and edit the menu then.11:47
skalpelhow do i do that?11:48
Blissexskalpel: 'kmenueditor' or right click on the big K menu and select 'Menu editor'.11:48
skalpelalso, how do i change keyboard shortcuts in kde?11:50
Tm_TRogue_Jedi_X: you need invitation?11:50
Tm_Tskalpel: kcontrol11:50
Rogue_Jedi_XTm_T: I could use one, yeah11:51
Tm_Thaha11:51
Tm_Tdon't ask from me =)11:51
Rogue_Jedi_XBastard :P11:52
hussamI still have tons of gmail invites11:52
Tm_T] ;=11:52
hussamRogue_Jedi_: do you want an invite?11:52
Tm_Thussam: ssshhh11:52
Tm_T!11:52
ubotuTm_T: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about11:52
Rogue_Jedi_Xhussam: Please.11:52
Tm_Tubotu: oh shut up11:53
ubotuTm_T: Do they come in packets of five?11:53
hussamRogue_Jedi_X: msg me your current email and full name11:53
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Rogue_Jedi_XAlright11:53
skalpelTm_T: i do not see anything about keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol11:56
Tm_Tskalpel: there is11:56
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Tm_Tregional & accessiblity ->11:56
skalpelthank you11:57
Tm_Tnp :)11:59
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