[12:05] <herbaz> sudo synaptic
[12:05] <herbaz> i thought there is somthing called  
[12:06] <Tm_T> humm
[12:06] <herbaz> sudo: synaptic: command not found
[12:06] <herbaz> :S
[12:06] <herbaz> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
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[12:06] <herbaz> i'm using kubuntu
[12:27] <jbasilio> anybody have a gmail invite?
[12:27] <Pierre-Yves> me
[12:27] <jbasilio> could i bug you for one?
[12:28] <Pierre-Yves> send me your email
[12:28] <jbasilio> Pierre-Yves: jim.basilio@verizon.net
[12:28] <jbasilio> i hope google brings jabber to the fashionable IM list.  would be SOOOO much easier for OSS clients
[12:29] <Pierre-Yves> jbasilio: done
[12:29] <jbasilio> Pierre-Yves: thank you most kindly!  brb
[12:32] <hussam> my computer keeps connecting to a an IP 207.68.178.61 through port 80 although I don't have firefox open. how can know to what domain does that IP belong?
[12:32] <paco> use nslookup
[12:32] <paco> nslookup ipaddress
[12:32] <jbasilio> Pierre-Yves: done.  again, thank you.
[12:33] <hussam> paco: is there anyway I can terminate this connection?
[12:34] <paco> i don't know
[12:34] <paco> i guess so
[12:41] <hussam> how can know from command line if a service is running
[12:43] <apokryphos> hussam: depends on the service/process. Often: ps aux|grep {process}
[12:46] <hussam> is there anyway I can kill all active network connections? firestarter keeps detecting connections to an unknown IP
[12:46] <martin> Question: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?
[12:47] <apokryphos> hussam: ifdown?
[12:48] <hussam> apokryphos: will that shut off networking?
[12:49] <apokryphos> It will bring the network interface down, yes. See man:ifdown for the usage
[12:49] <hussam> apokryphos: how do I turn it back on?
[12:49] <apokryphos> as the man page says, ifup :P
[12:49] <hussam> ok
[12:52] <fromoze> hi, someone know the name of the package which install "system setting" menu on kde 342?
[12:53] <_frank> fromoze: there is a package for that? you mean kcontrol? I just did it manually
[12:53] <fromoze> no no, in kde 342 there's no kcontrol on the kmenu, just systemsettings...
[12:57] <fromoze> _frank: try to install kde-systemsettings
[01:02] <Heart_> hi
[01:02] <Heart_> $KDEDIR in kubuntu is /usr ?
[01:03] <apokryphos> KDEDIR in KDE is obsolete, though; you should use KDEDIRS
[01:03] <apokryphos> but it is /usr, yes
[01:03] <Heart_> ok.... asked because "echo $KDEDIR" prints nothing here
[01:03] <apokryphos> by default it is not set; netierh is KDEDIRS
[01:04] <apokryphos> to find out the prefix though you can always use kde-config --prefix
[01:04] <apokryphos> s/netierh/neither
[01:04] <_trash> chakie is here today...*waves* hi
[01:04] <Heart_> apokryphos: ahh thx
[01:05] <prjkt_trash> so yea anyone know how to make the SB Live 24 (ca0106) to work in Horay? (kubuntu)
[01:22] <ubuntu> hi everyone!
[01:24] <hussam> is ubuntuforums.org down !?
[01:25] <apokryphos> yes
[01:26] <ubuntu> How can i download programs with Synaptic, I'm looking for some programs that I can't simply find.....
[01:27] <apokryphos> like what?
[01:27] <apokryphos> You may want to enable the extra repositories
[01:27] <apokryphos> !repos
[01:27] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:37] <Velox> 'lo...having a problem with Adjust date and time...keyboard settings too. Keyboard settings don't even show up (when opened, just a blank window) and date & time won't set the time...it will in the configure module, but then it doesn't set the clocks and when reopened reverted.
[01:37] <Heart_> anyone here has deb package for kdar?
[01:40] <ubuntu> ubotu : i'm looking for programs like octave, maxima and R..... (I think they are from debian!)....
[01:40] <ubotu> ubuntu: what are you talking about?
[01:42] <ubuntu> Using Synaptic.... the link you sent me are from ubuntu.... and they don't seem to have them... 
[01:43] <apokryphos> Heart_: what is it?
[01:43] <apokryphos> ubuntu: as I said before, what package? :)
[01:45] <ubuntu> apokryphos : many, to mention some: Octave, xmaxima, R, Battle for Wesnoth and Acrobat.
[01:45] <apokryphos> the first few: are those games?
[01:45] <apokryphos> kde has programs for viewing PDFs already, too
[01:46] <ubuntu> apokryphos : No, just "Battle for Wesnoth"
[01:46] <Heart_> apokryphos: frontend for dar (dar.sf.net)
[01:46] <Heart_> http://kdar.sourceforge.net/
[01:47] <McScruff> lo
[01:47] <apokryphos> dar stuff is in there; kdar is not
[01:47] <apokryphos> McScruff: hi :)
[01:47] <Heart_> yes, that's the "problem" :)
[01:49] <apokryphos> The repositories are huge (16000 packs, around), but they cannot possibly have *everything*, unfortunately.
[01:51] <Heart_> sure but it could be possible that someone here made a package or knew a site which provides debs for it ....
[01:52] <ubuntu> apokryphos: do you know how?
[01:52] <apokryphos> ubuntu: know if there is one? No.
[01:53] <ubuntu> thanks
[01:55] <Heart_> what is a usefull compression level when making a gzip backup?
[01:55] <Heart_> 9?
[01:56] <apokryphos> that's the best and slowest compression level; default is 6
[01:57] <Heart_> k
[02:08] <Heart_> apokryphos: are you or have contact to a kubuntu dev member or where can make a request for kdar package in next kubuntu release?
[02:08] <apokryphos> Heart_: there's a section on the wiki for that; feel free to recommend it there
[02:09] <Heart_> url?
[02:09] <apokryphos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSuggestedPackages
[02:10] <apokryphos> ah, it's already suggested
[02:10] <Heart_> ahh nice
[02:10] <apokryphos> ...and someone's already made it; it's being reviewed :)
[02:10] <Heart_> reviewed?! where do you see that?
[02:11] <Heart_> package is in REVU for reviewing)
[02:11] <Heart_> ahh
[02:11] <Heart_> that means it exist and are in "testing stage"?!
[02:11] <apokryphos> When new packagers make packages they're sent to MOTU for reviewing, before they're put in
[02:11] <apokryphos> not exactly; it means it has to get the approval of an MOTU-member(s) before it can go into Universe/Multiverse etc
[02:12] <Heart_> but it goes only to the repository with the next release (so breezy)... not "between release cycles"?
[02:13] <apokryphos> not unless it's put into backports, no
[02:15] <Heart_> so the way is: reviewed packages goes into backport (package is in REVU for reviewing)
[02:15] <Heart_> ups sorry mom
[02:15] <Heart_> so the way is: reviewed packages goes into backport (deb http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/kubuntu/hoary ./ <-- is ok?) then afterwards it goes to universe/multiverse?
[02:15] <apokryphos> nope :)
[02:16] <apokryphos> Packages are put in REVU when new (non-MOTU) people make packages
[02:16] <apokryphos> if they're approved, they either go into Backports or the unstable version (currently Breezy)
[02:17] <Heart_> k... mentioned backport is the right one?
[02:17] <apokryphos> you want to get it now?
[02:18] <apokryphos> I'm not sure if REVU hosts the debs... you could check
[02:18] <Heart_> where?
[02:18] <Heart_> or simply mail AndreasMussgiller?
[02:18] <apokryphos> wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU
[02:19] <apokryphos> nope, it doesn't seem to
[02:20] <fatejudger> does anyone here know anything about Kdevelop?
[02:21] <Heart_> what i saw is.... kdar2.0.6 requires a newer dar-version than the one which is already there in apt/aptitude
[02:30] <ray> hey whats up guys
[02:58] <c0rrupt_> whats the program in kubuntu that automaticaly searches for programs not added to the panel?
[02:59] <c0rrupt_> o.0
[03:10] <c0rrupt_> wakeeeeeeeeee up!1111111
[03:14] <claydoh> c0rrupt_:  kappfinder
[03:14] <c0rrupt_> kthx
[03:27] <BTJustice> Might someone be able to help me get my SoundBlaster Live! 7.1 24-bit sound card working well in Lubuntu?
[03:27] <BTJustice> *Kubuntu
[03:28] <crimsun> BTJustice: still static?
[03:28] <crimsun> BTJustice: are you using 1.0.10rc1?
[03:29] <BTJustice> No, I reinstalled Kubuntu a few days ago
[03:29] <BTJustice> I haven't done shit to it
[03:29] <crimsun> then you need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:29] <crimsun> then grab the alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1.tar.bz2
[03:29] <BTJustice> From terminal or Ksynaptic?
[03:29] <crimsun> irrelevant
[03:29] <BTJustice> Tell me what to do and I will do it.
[03:30] <crimsun> I just did
[03:30] <BTJustice> But how do I get that stuff?
[03:30] <BTJustice> I don't know.
[03:30] <BTJustice> Really.
[03:30] <BTJustice> I don't know.
[03:30] <crimsun> pick your poison
[03:30] <BTJustice> Alright, Knaptic
[03:31] <BTJustice> So I just do a search for that stuff?
[03:31] <crimsun> sure.
[03:31] <crimsun> dinner time for me, bbl
[03:32] <BTJustice> what version of Linux headers?
[03:32] <BTJustice> there is like a whole bunch of them
[03:36] <BTJustice> btjustice@Kubuntu:~$ linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:36] <BTJustice> bash: linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386: command not found
[03:37] <BTJustice> so I guess it would be that one
[03:48] <n17r0> Hi anyone know a good file manager like total commandor on windows?
[03:53] <frogtone25> hey 
[03:54] <frogtone25> i need to know where i can find a list of deb addresses to add to my repositories list
[03:54] <frogtone25> i need all the backport and multiverse and universes
[03:55] <frogtone25> can anyone help me with this
[03:55] <frogtone25> i would really appreciate it if you could
[03:55] <n17r0> well I wouldnt use backports
[03:55] <frogtone25> ok
[03:55] <frogtone25> but do you know how to get them anyways
[03:56] <n17r0> just uncomment the multiverse lines in ur sources.list
[03:56] <frogtone25> ok
[03:56] <frogtone25> is that a must though
[03:56] <frogtone25> why do i have to do that
[03:56] <frogtone25> i dont understand
[03:57] <n17r0> nah not a must, but u get lots of extra software to choose from
[03:57] <frogtone25> ok 
[03:57] <frogtone25> how do i do that
[03:57] <frogtone25> does uncomment mean to take them off the list
[03:57] <Gatton> take out the # from in front of those lines. in the /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:58] <n17r0> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:58] <frogtone25> question
[03:58] <frogtone25> i didnt set a su password
[03:59] <n17r0> lol
[03:59] <frogtone25> is there a default password
[03:59] <n17r0> I dunno
[03:59] <frogtone25> usually i use the same password for both me and root
[03:59] <n17r0> try just <enter>
[03:59] <frogtone25> ok
[03:59] <frogtone25> nope
[03:59] <frogtone25> no luck
[03:59] <frogtone25> hold on
[03:59] <n17r0> yeah password for root is the same as "me"
[04:00] <frogtone25> it wont work
[04:00] <frogtone25> hold on
[04:00] <Gatton> yea sudo password is your password
[04:00] <Gatton> ubuntu defaults to using sudo for everything
[04:01] <frogtone25> ok i changed it
[04:01] <frogtone25> i remembered to put sudo passwd root
[04:01] <n17r0> Gatton: do u know a good filemanager like total commander for windows?
[04:02] <frogtone25> ok i put nano etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <frogtone25> i dont know how to use that
[04:02] <frogtone25> how do i get the sources file thats in my computer to show up
[04:02] <n17r0> ok u now see some text right?
[04:02] <frogtone25> so i can edit it
[04:03] <frogtone25> yeah
[04:03] <frogtone25> hold on
[04:03] <n17r0> ok scroll dowbn
[04:03] <frogtone25> i have to get it back online
[04:04] <Gatton> n17r0, i know there's a gnome-commander. not sure if it's based on that or not
[04:04] <frogtone25> hey ill have to wait a minute im installing some stuff on here
[04:04] <frogtone25> ok
[04:04] <n17r0> remove that "#" in front of all the lines that start with "deb blablabla"
[04:04] <frogtone25> ok
[04:05] <Gatton> remember after you remove the # you need to do sudo apt-get update
[04:05] <n17r0> like: # deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[04:05] <frogtone25> ok
[04:05] <n17r0> only remove that #
[04:05] <frogtone25> im on gnome right now 
[04:05] <frogtone25> and im installing kde right now
[04:05] <frogtone25> i had to reinstall this stuff earlier because i messed something up
[04:06] <n17r0> ok when u are done with removing those #'s then u must click: ctrl + x
[04:06] <n17r0> and then save 
[04:06] <n17r0> lol
[04:06] <frogtone25> what does ctrl + x do
[04:06] <n17r0> save ur file
[04:06] <frogtone25> oh
[04:06] <frogtone25> ok
[04:07] <frogtone25> give me a minute or two and ill do this ok
[04:07] <malv> anyone know how to connect to gmails jabber server using kopete?
[04:07] <frogtone25> gmail uses jabber?
[04:07] <n17r0> ok im out
[04:07] <frogtone25> ok
[04:07] <frogtone25> thanks
[04:07] <malv> google i mean
[04:08] <malv> talk.google.com
[04:10] <frogtone25> cool
[04:10] <frogtone25> you can chat with google
[04:10] <frogtone25> i didnt know that
[04:10] <Gatton> new feature. just released
[04:10] <frogtone25> really cool
[04:11] <frogtone25> ok im on the site now
[04:11] <frogtone25> this looks pretty cool
[04:11] <malv> for one reason or another, the plugin to enable tls with jabber for kopete doesn't seem to work
[04:11] <frogtone25> im gonna google this really good and find out how this actually works
[04:11] <frogtone25> really 
[04:13] <frogtone25> hey can we get gajim on here
[04:13] <frogtone25> can it be downloaded
[04:14] <frogtone25> it says that gaim can work with jabber with google
[04:14] <frogtone25> but i dont know how to make jabber on there to work with google though
[04:14] <frogtone25> but it does say it
[04:15] <frogtone25> http://www.jabber.org/journal/2005-08-24.shtml 
[04:15] <frogtone25> check out this site 
[04:16] <frogtone25> ok 
[04:16] <frogtone25> i need to know what to put as the server for jabber to chat with google
[04:16] <frogtone25> is it talk.google.com
[04:17] <frogtone25> or what
[04:20] <malv> talk.google.com has a page that shows you how to set it up with gaim
[04:20] <malv> as far as I can tell, it works fine with gaim
[04:22] <frogtone25> ok
[04:30] <frogtone25> hey im on there
[04:30] <frogtone25> its pretty cool
[04:30] <supernix> can anyone tell me about the hotplug conflict in the latest kernel image ?
[05:04] <EasterSunshine> has kde released a lightweight browser, similar to konqueror in functionality, but with the speed of firefox?
[05:05] <sproingie> yes.  it's called konqueror
[05:07] <_john> what do you guys think the best media player is for linux?>
[05:07] <_john> err KDE i mean
[05:07] <_john> that fits in with the KDE theme
[05:07] <sproingie> konq launches in half the time, with about half the RSS ... same virtual size tho, which is strange
[05:08] <sproingie> perhaps from heavy use of shared libs
[05:10] <bjv> what is the standard way to check if an iso burned correctly?
[05:11] <bjv> k3b reported the verification process as 'ok', but i get an 'invalid compressed format' when trying to boot the disk.
[05:13] <EasterSunshine> whoa you can cat devices?
[05:13] <_john> which is better: amaroK or JuK?  I use JuK now, but i dunno...
[05:13] <jsubl2> amarok
[05:13] <malv> amarok
[05:13] <_john> I remember having problems with that
[05:13] <_john> like not being able to add music to my collection
[05:14] <_john> perhaps it was just user error.
[05:14] <_john> I'll give it another try.
[05:15] <_john> "The claims it _cannot_ play MP3 files" ?
[05:15] <_john> I got that error when i started
[05:15] <_john> and uploaded my collection
[05:15] <kalenedrael> are you running fedora core?
[05:15] <_john> nope, kubuntu
[05:15] <kalenedrael> hmm,
[05:15] <kalenedrael> oh, i just noticed this was #kubuntu :P
[05:15] <_john> XD
[05:15] <kalenedrael> i'm in like five linux and linux stuff help channels
[05:16] <kalenedrael> so it's hard to keep track of what's what...
[05:16] <_john> heh
[05:16] <_john> nifty
[05:16] <_john> what distro do you use?
[05:16] <kalenedrael> kubuntu
[05:16] <_john> yeah, i liek it  too.  great distro.
[05:16] <kalenedrael> i wouldn't hang out in here if i weren't, i guess
[05:19] <malv> anyone else know that they have adobe acrobat reader 7.0 for linux?
[05:19] <_john> i dunno
[05:19] <manuel_> Hi, do you know how do I enable the preview feature of apollon?
[05:20] <manuel_> it says "Media player could not be loaded"
[05:30] <manuel_> Hi, do you know how do I enable the preview feature of apollon?
[05:30] <manuel_> it says "Media player could not be loaded"
[05:30] <Velox> manuel_: is the media player you're attempting to preview with installed and configured correctly?
[05:40] <manuel_> yes, I have amarok, noatun, kaffeine
[05:41] <manuel_> all of them working like a charm
[05:43] <_john> does anyone else besides me love how much easier it is to add something to a panel in KDE?
[05:43] <_john> in gnome you have to go through this long list of crap and all this gunk, stupid menus.... in KDE it takes seconds
[05:44] <_john> yeah... just my two cents.
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> i wish i could marry kde
[05:48] <manuel_> Velox: is it an issue with kubuntu's apollon? because I didn't have those problems with a debian sid
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> i would like to execute something with kdesu so i have permission to do whatever i want with it
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> `kdesu touch me`
[05:49] <kalenedrael> sudo
[05:49] <kalenedrael> ...
[05:50] <kalenedrael> umm...
[05:50] <static> heh
[05:50] <EasterSunshine> but i want kde to touch me, not some damn superuser
[05:50] <Velox> Embrace the KDE...open up your Linux side.
[05:51] <Velox> Oh, woot. I tried DVD playback in xine for the first time and it passed with flying colors.
[05:51] <Velox> I already knew mpeg playback was good.
[05:54] <malv> anyone here a dedicated programmer that doesn't live on coffee?
[05:56] <Subvertir> I live off crank and ramen
[05:56] <Subvertir> does that count?
[05:58] <static> i'd live off coke but coffee is cheaper.
[05:59] <static> although i dont code.. .so .. whatever..
[05:59] <static> nothing like an ice cole cocacola.. ahhh.. refreshing.
[05:59] <static> cold*
[06:23] <Ce_ganaz> allow
[06:37] <Terminus> help with kcontrol, please
[06:37] <Terminus> I have this error: ASSERT: "!config.isReadOnly()" in /root/kdebase/kdebase-3.4.2/kcontrol/randr/randr.cpp (674)
[06:38] <Terminus> when I apply changes in screen
[06:39] <cartel_> hmm
[06:39] <cartel_> when i goto gmail in konq, i get the standard view
[06:39] <cartel_> but, none of the buttons work.
[06:40] <Velox> cartel_: I suggest Mozilla FireFox over Konqueror as a webbrowser.
[06:41] <Terminus> I have this error: ASSERT: "!config.isReadOnly()" in /root/kdebase/kdebase-3.4.2/kcontrol/randr/randr.cpp (674)
[06:41] <Terminus> in kcontrol, any help, please?
[06:42] <Velox> Terminus: tried reinstalling kcontrol?
[06:42] <Terminus> with apt-get install?
[06:45] <Velox> Or Kyn/Synaptic (I use Synaptic to be honest...far better, even though its from GNOME)
[06:45] <Terminus> ok, i try this, thanks Velox
[07:03] <frogtone25> hey i need to know how i can get java for kubuntu
[07:04] <frogtone25> can anyone help me
[07:04] <Xolev> http://www.ubuntuguide.com ... take a look at adding extra repositiories, and I believe installing Java is in it too.
[07:06] <frogtone25> well ill tell you this
[07:06] <frogtone25> i downloaded java from java.com
[07:06] <frogtone25> and its a bin file
[07:06] <frogtone25> a rpm file is inside of the bin file
[07:07] <frogtone25> how do i extract the rpm file from the bin
[07:09] <Xolev> alien -i rpmfile.rpm
[07:10] <Xolev> alien will output a .deb file, then you can use sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb to install it
[07:15] <frogtone25> ok i know how to extract a rpm file
[07:15] <frogtone25> and to install a deb file
[07:15] <frogtone25> but i have a rpm inside of a .bin file
[07:15] <frogtone25> how do i get the rpm out of it
[07:15] <frogtone25> what command do i put into terminal to do this
[07:17] <Xolev> I gave the answer above.
[07:17] <Xolev> alien -i rpmfile.rpm makes a .deb file to install through dpkg.
[07:17] <_frank> frogtone for java add hoary-extras to your sources.list and install java with kynaptic or synaptic.
[07:18] <_frank> thats the best way to do it
[07:18] <_frank> 1repositories
[07:18] <Xolev> Indeed.
[07:18] <frogtone25> i have a .bin file here
[07:19] <frogtone25> i have to open it to get a rpm file out of it
[07:19] <_frank> you can't directly install a rpm
[07:19] <_frank> trust me it's better if you add hoary-extras
[07:20] <frogtone25> can i post what it says in my terminal
[07:20] <frogtone25> root@richardk:/home/frogtone25 # alien -d /home/frogtone25/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[07:20] <frogtone25> Unknown type of package, /home/frogtone25/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin.
[07:20] <frogtone25> this is what it says
[07:21] <frogtone25> so you tell me
[07:21] <_frank> type sh /home/frogtone25/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[07:21] <frogtone25> ok
[07:21] <_frank> to run the bin first
[07:24] <frogtone25> it extracted it
[07:24] <frogtone25> and i have now installed java
[07:24] <_frank> does it work/
[07:24] <frogtone25> i dont know 
[07:25] <frogtone25> let me check
[07:25] <_frank> man for some reason shift doesn't work on my keyboard anymore
[07:28] <frogtone25> ok
[07:28] <frogtone25> answer this
[07:29] <frogtone25> i have java installed 
[07:29] <frogtone25> but i wont work on any of my browsers
[07:29] <frogtone25> im using firefox and opera
[07:29] <frogtone25> how do i make it work with those browsers
[07:29] <frogtone25> well i know why opera wont work
[07:30] <frogtone25> it wont let me enable java on it
[07:30] <frogtone25> but firefox should be working
[07:30] <frogtone25> and it isnt 
[07:30] <frogtone25> so please help me
[07:31] <_frank> you didn't use apt-get / synaptic / kynaptic to install, you're on your own
[07:32] <frogtone25> well i dont know how to do that
[07:32] <frogtone25> ok
[07:32] <frogtone25> i tried apt-get
[07:32] <frogtone25> it wouldnt work
[07:32] <_frank> this is debian based... you should always use apt first
[07:33] <frogtone25> i did
[07:33] <_frank> you need to add hoary-extras
[07:33] <frogtone25> it wouldnt work
[07:33] <_frank> to your sources
[07:33] <frogtone25> how do i do that
[07:33] <Xolev> http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:33] <Xolev> Find the section on "adding extra repositories"
[07:33] <Xolev> I believe theres also how to install Java as well.
[07:34] <frogtone25> ive done been here
[07:34] <frogtone25> i messed up my synaptic last time using those addresses
[07:34] <Xolev> You obviously didn't do it correctly then
[07:34] <frogtone25> and the java they tell you to install with apt-get doesnt exist
[07:35] <frogtone25> well tell me how you should do it 
[07:35] <_frank> frogtone25: oh... maybe you're right there was a problem with hoary-extras today. something is fucked somewhere
[07:35] <Xolev> Copy and paste what they give, replacing whats in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <frogtone25> yeah i know
[07:36] <Xolev> _frank: Is there? I haven't tried anything today.
[07:36] <Poromies> frogtone25: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[07:36] <_frank> i don't know the details only that something was not working
[07:38] <frogtone25> well i can tell you that they have been adding new stuff on there
[07:38] <frogtone25> i have a mac osx panther theme on here right now
[07:38] <frogtone25> top buttons and all
[07:38] <frogtone25> and i got it on synaptics
[07:39] <frogtone25> ive never seen it on there before
[07:39] <Poromies> is it the baghera theme (or something like that?)
[07:40] <Poromies> it's been in repos for a while :] 
[07:43] <frogtone25> ive never seen it before
[07:57] <tenco> why does adept need over 50 megs of disk space?
[08:04] <frogtone25> i have a question
[08:05] <frogtone25> what is the name of the program for kubuntu that runs off of the itunes music store servers
[08:05] <frogtone25> i saw it in synaptic the other day 
[08:05] <frogtone25> and i can find it
[08:05] <_frank> pymusique or something like thta/
[08:06] <frogtone25> or ok
[08:06] <_frank> not sure
[08:06] <frogtone25> ok 
[08:06] <frogtone25> i found it
[08:06] <tenco> why does adept need over 50 megs of disk space?
[08:07] <frogtone25> but it says that i need a version of python that i cant find on there
[08:34] <vot3> how do i change my 'preferred appications' in kde?
[08:34] <vot3> such as the terminal program it uses when you select terminal
[08:45] <skpl> can someone tell me how to install the font 'freesans' for kinsole?
[08:46] <Tonka> how do i put the trash icon on the desktop? i'm kubuntu with kde 5.4. :-)
[09:19] <skpl> can someone tell me why programs i download always open with a program called kate instead of with something else? like file manager or archive manager?
[09:21] <jeh> skpl: deb packages?
[09:21] <skpl> no, this is a gzip file
[09:22] <jeh> should open with ark or similar
[09:22] <jeh> i've seen deb:s being opened with kate. slightly useless :)
[09:24] <skpl> everything i download opens with kate for some reason
[09:24] <skpl> do you have any idea why?
[09:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i add enlightenment to my kdm list?
[09:36] <fatejudger> this is going to sound like a stupid question but after tweaking the kde eye candy / system performance stuff the entire Kubuntu theme got replaced with this disgusting blue theme
[09:36] <fatejudger> and the fonts are tiny
[09:36] <fatejudger> is there some default theme
[09:37] <fatejudger> that I can switch back to
[09:37] <fatejudger> ?
[09:37] <tenco> why does adept need over 50 megs of disk space?
[09:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> ack
[09:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't get this
[09:38] <_buz> and why would installing it rip half kubuntu apart
[09:38] <tenco> _buz: really? it only deinstalled kynaptic and synaptic on my machine
[09:38] <tenco> _buz: kde 3.4.0?
[09:39] <_buz> mhh it wanted to change a shitload of stuff on mine
[09:39] <_buz> no 3.4.2
[09:39] <nikkia> lol
[09:39] <nikkia> 'intel sets sights on digital living room'
[09:39] <nikkia> hey, intel, you're too late, IBM already won!
[09:46] <Tonka> please help me put the trash icon on my kubuntu desktop. right now its in the tray.
[09:47] <tenco> how can i get bash to rehash $PATH?
[09:48] <nikkia> tonka, edit Trash.desktop in your Desktop directory, and change 'Hidden=true' to 'Hidden=false'
[09:48] <nikkia> tenco: hash -r
[09:48] <tenco> thanks
[09:48] <Tonka> thanks mikkia. will try that.
[09:50] <tenco> is a adept hacker here?
[09:50] <tenco> an*
[09:53] <tenco> how can i search in the package descriptions with adept?
[09:56] <tenco> uhm, why did they announce this release? it even can not do the most important task a package manager should: install packages
[09:57] <fatejudger> can somebody with the default config go into their color settings and tell me what they are?
[09:58] <fatejudger> I can't seem to figure it out
[10:12] <Subvertir> playing guitar is hard =(
[10:26] <nikkia> morning apokryphos
[10:27] <apokryphos> Hallo, how are you?
[10:27] <nikkia> meh
[10:29] <apokryphos> sounds good :P
[10:29] <nikkia> just had to hack Point2Play to work :P
[10:29] <nikkia> their python script to detect your system settings only recognises a few distros, and crashes if you're not on the list
[10:30] <apokryphos> seems silly
[10:30] <nikkia> indeed...
[10:30] <nikkia> 'and I'm paying MONEY for this ??!?!' :P
[10:30] <apokryphos> finding it weird getting up thsi early; house sounded so up-and-going, and I thought it *must* be around 12. Guess not. :/
[10:30] <apokryphos> much?
[10:31] <nikkia> 3/mo, the usual transgaming fee
[10:33] <stef> hello all :-)
[10:34] <stef> I try to use klamav 
[10:34] <stef> I installed it but when I start klamav the configfile is not writeable
[10:34] <thoreauputic> nikkia: if it's of any interest: apparently konsole uses a daemon called something like "utempter" to increment users etc (not included in kubuntu afaik)
[10:35] <thoreauputic> re: previous discussion about utmp etc
[10:35] <stef> is there more configuration needet? ANd what shall I do?
[10:35] <nikkia> thoreauputic: ah, interesting
[10:35] <stef> can someone help?
[10:39] <stef> I installed klamav via a.deb -file
[10:40] <stef> maybe this was not a good idea?
[10:46] <stef> when I start klamav under console I get the message "/var/tmp/kdecache-stef" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[10:46] <stef> what is to do?
[10:46] <nikkia> it has to be run as root, obviously
[10:46] <nikkia> try kdesu klamav
[10:47] <stef> hmm but its antivirus . Should this not be run as a normal user?
[10:47] <NeEdLove> hi
[10:48] <nikkia> stef, why do you need clamav anyway ?
[10:48] <nikkia> (i ask, because i have a nasty feeling you don't really understand what it does, and are just installing it out of habit of thinking you need antivirus)
[10:48] <stef> Im looking for an easy to use antivir solution
[10:49] <stef> There is  anned for installing a file server by a friend and he has no expierence with linux
[10:49] <stef> so , a simple to use gui is the best solution
[10:50] <stef> for him
[10:50] <nikkia> stef, see, clamav is designed to scan email/shared directories, and as such runs as root as a daemon, now, klamav is, i presume, a front end control panel for it, and because clamav runs as root, klamav probably needs to too
[10:51] <stef> hmmm, okay but when I use kdesu klamav I have the same messages
[10:52] <nikkia> yeah, its the old running KDE programs as root problem :/
[10:53] <stef> old problem? no solution for it?
[10:53] <nikkia> stef, the problem is, klamav appears to be expecting to be run as root, from within KDE running as root
[10:53] <nikkia> stef, there is no easy way to run KDE as root on kubuntu, and it wouldn't be recommended anyway
[10:54] <nikkia> it sounds like a monumentally bad design on the part of klamav to me
[10:54] <stef> nikkia, how should I use it under kubuntu? maybe under sarge is it better?
[10:55] <nikkia> stef, is klamav absolutely necessary ?
[10:56] <nikkia> because i wouldn't trust an app that is security related when it makes so utterly bad security related design decisions :)
[10:56] <stef> no, not klamav. When there is another solution I can live with that
[10:56] <nikkia> its a bit like having a locksmith tell you 'don't lock your door for a couple of days, to let the lock settle in'
[10:57] <stef> okay, you are right
[10:58] <stef> but what I should use instead?
[10:58] <stef> you have to know , there is a firm and they have a M$ -lan
[10:59] <stef> they need win for development (Powerbuilder)
[10:59] <nikkia> stef, i have nothing against clamav
[10:59] <stef> but I can change some Servers to linux
[10:59] <nikkia> stef, you do realise clamav != klamav, right?
[11:00] <nikkia> that klamav is just a GUI to clamav
[11:00] <stef> And in a win lan without an antivir solution?
[11:00] <nikkia> stef, run clamav :)
[11:01] <nikkia> klamav is NOT a virus scanner, it is a GUI program that lets you configure/access clamav, which IS a virus scanner
[11:01] <stef> yes I understand this.
[11:01] <stef> I was haappy to see agui for it
[11:01] <stef> so the the admin there can use it easily
[11:02] <nikkia> stef, its a bit pointless if the GUI insists on you using insanely bad security practices to use it tho
[11:02] <stef> hmmm..
[11:03] <stef> Is there another "gui-Scanner" ?
[11:13] <tenco> i have problems with wpa_supplicant
[11:13] <tenco> i always get: Disconnect event - remove keys
[11:20] <nikkia> tch!
[11:20] <stef> ?
[11:20] <nikkia> my boss just called me asking if i could upload *all* my source code and data files so he can 'tinker' with it at home
[11:34] <blaq> hey guys, is there a way for me to mount a smb share through a gui interface?
[11:35] <blaq> unfortunately most programs aren't recognising remote:/ and smb:// and I don't want to have to trawl through man pages and conf files to get these shares mounted properly
[11:35] <tenco_> the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\
[11:36] <blaq> when i used to use mandrake, it had a module in its system configuration and maintenance utility that would provide me with a nice graphical interface to /etc/fstab.conf and i was wondering if (k)ubuntu had the same
[11:41] <rob^> I managed to turn my ubuntu desktop into a kde/gnome halfbreed, how to I undo the changes that the GTK style thingy changed?
[11:41] <rob^> at the moment I have qt widgets where the gtk ones should be
[11:42] <rob^> and kde fonts instead of gnome
[11:42] <floe> rob^: Mabey you could set it in the kde control center. If the appropriate module is installed (which seems to be)... GTK Styles and Fonts.
[11:43] <rob^> yes, how do I completly undo it
[11:43] <floe> rob^: KControl->Appearance And Themes->GTK Styles And Fonts
[11:43] <rob^> yes, but its taken over from gnome themes etc
[11:44] <floe> rob^_: Mabe set it to "default" style... I'm not sure. I never use Gnome just some gtk apps. Sry.
[11:47] <rob^> I'll try removing kde and see what happens
[11:48] <tenco_> the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\
[12:13] <sxe> are there any broken kernel pakages on kubuntu? After dist-upgrading i cant start kubuntu hoary.
[12:13] <sxe> i get only a black screen on startup
[12:19] <sxe> i remember, that there were updates conserning kernel modules.. i think that is the problem..
[12:25] <skalpel> can someone recommend a good ftp client for kde?
[12:26] <nikkia> skalpel: kbear, if you can use it without it crashing
[12:26] <nikkia> failing that, konqueror works, albeit horribly slowly
[12:27] <nikkia> if you want a true ftp client, that is rock-solid stable, you usually end up having to go to the command line ftp clients tho
[12:28] <skalpel> you dont sound hopeful
[12:28] <nikkia> skalpel: i like kbear, but it is horribly crashy
[12:29] <skalpel> why do you like it then?
[12:29] <nikkia> skalpel: nice UI, nice feature list
[12:29] <skalpel> do you know of an irc client for kde that supports transparency?
[12:29] <nikkia> skalpel: kvirc (not the version in the repositories though)
[12:30] <nikkia> 2.whatever that's in the repos. is about 18mo out of date
[12:30] <otep> does anyone ever encounter this:
[12:31] <otep> error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[12:31] <skalpel> i usually do not run anything that is not in the repositories
[12:35] <hettar> Anyone running breezy kubuntu ?? and if so is it useable yet ?
[12:38] <otep> does anyone ever encounter this:
[12:38] <otep> error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[12:53] <kainos> wer can i get a source list thats got more stable downloads>
[01:00] <pl_ice_> hi
[01:23] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> hettar: I didn't have much luck last time I tried
[01:23] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> To install breezy, I mean
[01:42] <pl_ice_> hey, can someone tell howto backup my iptables?
[01:48] <dePOLL> Hey guys. Is there any way to get kio_svn for my (K)Ubuntu Hoary without much hastle? Somehow it seems to be missing in the official repositories Oo
[01:57] <Kitty-Kun> hello!
[01:59] <_buz> how comes that lm_sensors reports everything but fan speed on my k8v?
[01:59] <_buz> some fan speed info would be rather handy for tweaking
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi Kitty-Kun
[02:08] <nikkia> woohoo
[02:08] <nikkia> now thats some serious gratuitus eye candy
[02:19] <_stef> Does anyone know if there is a good open source ego shooter for linux available? 
[02:19] <_stef> or other good games?
[02:19] <_stef> maybe old atari?
[02:19] <nikkia> stef, Q3A ?
[02:20] <_stef> Q3A? what is trhat and where can I get this?
[02:20] <nikkia> its open source, but you have to pay for the data files :)
[02:20] <nikkia> stef, Quake 3 Arena
[02:21] <nikkia> stef, if you want free as in no money, and don't care quite so much about 'open source', then there's America's Army and Return To Castle Wolfenstein:Enemy Territory
[02:22] <_stef> okay I have a look for that
[02:36] <tommel> Moin!
[02:45] <Bags> Hello all. 
[02:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:46] <Bags> I've got a problem with KDEPrint on a PPC and I was wondering if any of you kind and helpful, beautiful people would be feeling in the mood to offer a helping hand in this cruel and doomed worl in which we all live...
[02:48] <Bags> I've set up a HP Photosmart 7150 colour printer on one of the USB ports, it's detected, but the print jobs just sit there in the queue and do nothing...
[02:49] <Bags> It's a G3 (Lombard) PowerBook. 
[02:49] <Bags> Non-FW. 
[02:49] <Bags> New World all the same. 
[02:49] <Bags> It prints to the very same printer served up on a Windows XP box via Samba. 
[02:50] <Bags> But when connected locally, she don't verk mate...
[02:50] <Bags> Nutink. 
[02:50] <Bags> She's a bustid.. 
[02:51] <Bags> I don'ta no vata kuda be vronga, mate,,,
[02:51] <Bags> The lights, she's a blinking and the motors are verring...
[02:52] <Bags> Buta no a printa de paipa...
[02:52] <Bags> Any ideas? 
[02:52] <Bags> Folks? 
[02:53] <Bags> Am I the only person in this IRC room? 
[02:53] <Bags> Or is everyone else just watching me making a fool of myself here... ? 
[02:53] <nikkia> mostly that
[02:54] <Bags> :-)
[02:54] <apokryphos> :P
[02:54] <Bags> lol
[02:54] <nikkia> that and i was plugging in my shiny new netgear switch
[02:55] <Bags> But seriously, folks, have any of you had this sort of thing before? 
[02:55] <apokryphos> ooOOoo
[02:55] <nikkia> oddly not the switch i ordered, however
[02:55] <nikkia> well, it is, and it isn't
[02:55] <Bags> I have a new router, as of this afternoon. 
[02:55] <_buz> netgear per definition isnt shiny 
[02:55] <Bags> Netgear. 
[02:55] <apokryphos> congrats
[02:55] <nikkia> according to netgear, the FS108 has 1 uplink/normal port with a front panel switch
[02:55] <Bags> WGR614 v5
[02:55] <nikkia> according to the box in front of me, it has MDI-X on all 8 ports
[02:55] <_buz> netgears specs are pure fantasy
[02:55] <nikkia> buz, their professional (blue) stuff is great
[02:56] <nikkia> buz, their consumer products are no worse than linksys, etc
[02:56] <Bags> This one seems ok. 
[02:56] <_buz> linksys you can at least hack
[02:56] <nikkia> buz, whats to hack in a switch??
[02:56] <_buz> i paid for a simple wirless router
[02:56] <Bags> Well, that's handy...
[02:56] <_buz> and what did i make of it?
[02:57] <_buz> one that supports wds, vpn, qos and some other things i forgot about
[02:57] <Bags> Brown and handy... CUPS anyone? 
[02:57] <_buz> cup d is good, yes
[02:59] <Kitty-Kun> how do i set up a scanner in kde?
[02:59] <nikkia> apokryphos: btw, my boss has a surprise in store
[02:59] <apokryphos> nikkia: an extra job for you!
[02:59] <nikkia> apokryphos: he wanted messages in the message window to 'disappear after a time, so as not to confuse users', i made them auto-fade after a preset time :P
[03:00] <apokryphos> right
[03:02] <apokryphos> oh, that was the surprise :P
[03:03] <apokryphos> these days are busybusybusy; it's like being at school. Good and bad.
[03:03] <apokryphos> Arr well, food; back later.
[03:04] <Kitty-Kun> help please
[03:04] <Kitty-Kun> ...
[03:05] <apokryphos> !helpme
[03:05] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:08] <Kitty-Kun> I ALREADY ASKED
[03:08] <Kitty-Kun> how do i set up a scanner in kde?
[03:14] <stef> I just installed apache2 but its not running
[03:15] <stef> nmap 127.0.0.1 gives me not an open port80
[03:15] <stef> I looked around for somme logs
[03:15] <stef> but couldnt find anything important
[03:16] <stef> browsing the default page has also no result
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> tried connecting to localhost?
[03:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> and is it not running or not connecting out?
[03:16] <apokryphos> Kitty-Kun: when you open up Kooka you should be able to from there
[03:17] <stef> yes itz seems not running
[03:17] <stef> but I can do an apache restart without an error
[03:17] <apokryphos> if it restarts then it should really be running after...
[03:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> so is it on localhost?
[03:17] <stef> yes
[03:17] <apokryphos> is apache not running, or can you just not view it?
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> and 127.0.0.1?
[03:18] <apokryphos> You shouldn't have to, but I recall someone having to chmod www/ before viewing anything :/
[03:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> probably not world x :|
[03:18] <Kitty-Kun> what's kooka?
[03:18] <stef> and what is the best value for chmod in this case?
[03:18] <apokryphos> 666
[03:19] <Kitty-Kun> O_o
[03:19] <apokryphos> !info kooka
[03:19] <ubotu> kooka: (Scanner program for KDE), section graphics, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 720 kB, Installed size: 1160 kB
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> not 666 :o
[03:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> 755
[03:19] <Kitty-Kun> so use sudo apt-get install kooka?
[03:19] <apokryphos> sure
[03:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> me sure apokryphos? yeh
[03:21] <apokryphos> No... "sure" as in "yes. that's what you do"
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh right ;)
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry
[03:21] <stef> I tried chmod 755 /var/www but no result
[03:21] <stef> alll the same
[03:21] <dePOLL> Hey guys. Is there any way to get kio_svn for my (K)Ubuntu Hoary without much hastle? Somehow it seems to be missing in the official repositories Oo
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> stef: is the problem accessing it from another computer?
[03:22] <apokryphos> stef: is apache running, for sure?
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> aparently he can see localhost
[03:22] <stef> How can i get sure that its running?
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> so it's running localy at least
[03:22] <apokryphos> so how exactly is it not working?
[03:22] <apokryphos> oh, others can't view it?
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> apokryphos: that's what I'm trying to find out :)
[03:23] <apokryphos> if you can view localhost then it's of course running
[03:23] <hatake_kakashi> anyone would happen to know how to disable the use of IPv6 and use only IPv4?
[03:23] <stef> No, I cant see localhost
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh ok 
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> then it's not running 
[03:24] <hatake_kakashi> stef, ifconfig lo up
[03:24] <stef> and from other machine also no access
[03:24] <Bags> Having trouble printing to a HP7150 via USB and CUPS. I've a PPC G3 Powerbook and Kubuntu. It sees the printer but the jobs stop in the queue. This machine prints to the very same printer when it's served on a Windows XP machine, but when connected locally, it doesn't work.. .Any ideas? 
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> hatake_kakashi: what program
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> Kamping_Kaiser, just for dhclient
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> stef. did you restart apache using sudo?
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> because it is not getting the address
[03:25] <stef> yes nothing is starting it seems
[03:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> hatake_kakashi: not sure
[03:26] <hatake_kakashi> stef, check to see if apache maybe is running in the background via 'ps' command
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> Kamping_Kaiser, hmm :/ it is not getting any dhcpoffer even though dmesg shows output that the eth0 was detected.. I started looking through the manpages of ifconfig and ipv6
[03:27] <stef>  ps dont show me apache2 :(
[03:28] <stef> ps -A
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> stef 'ps aux |grep apache'
[03:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> without the 's
[03:29] <stef>  that gives: root      8213  0.0  0.1   2964   756 pts/1    R+   15:28   0:00 grep apache2
[03:29] <apokryphos> stef: please don't write in red by default
[03:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> stef: it's not running. are you sure it's installed?
[03:30] <stef> I reinstalled all with synaptic
[03:30] <stef> so it should be installed
[03:31] <apokryphos> dpkg -l|grep apache2   ...gives?
[03:32] <stef> where can I post that Pastebin.com?
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> or #flood
[03:33] <stef> opkay here: http://pastebin.com/345879
[03:34] <stef> seems all okay
[03:34] <apokryphos> it is installed; hmm
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> stef: run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" and then "ps aux |grep apache"
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbs
[03:35] <apokryphos> sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[03:35] <apokryphos> did you do that after you installed apache?
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> use the init scripts
[03:36] <stef> no
[03:37] <stef> that was it, it seems!!!
[03:37] <hatake_kakashi> ok, I believe kubuntu uses PAM and LDAP to use auth.. so is there a way to allow xorg to allow certain users?
[03:39] <stef> but the default site is not shown
[03:39] <apokryphos> ?
[03:39] <stef> only a list of directorys
[03:39] <stef> config?
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> stef, its most likely your apache2 config
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> stef: can you open the directories
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> check the conf files
[03:41] <stef> yes I can open it apache2-default then it shows me the default site
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> config
[03:45] <jwayne> When I'm writing make in a catalog containing a makefile I get the following error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> jwayne: have you run configure?
[03:48] <jwayne> Sorry forgot this line allso: make: *** [default]  Error 2
[03:48] <jwayne> ./configure: make: *** [default]  Error 2
[03:50] <jwayne> no. ./configure gets me: bash: make:: command not foun
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. sure you have build-essential?
[03:50] <jwayne> no
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> better check
[03:51] <jwayne> how do I do that?
[03:51] <jwayne> in synaptic?
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh, if you want :0. synaptic/ apt/aptitude/ kynaptic :)
[03:53] <jwayne> still nothig
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> !build-essentials
[03:54] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: I don't know
[03:54] <jwayne> can it be somthing with the headers?
[03:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> !build-essential
[03:54] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> !build-essential
[03:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. oh well
[03:56] <apokryphos> !info build-essential
[03:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> you need them :) do you have them? g
[03:56] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 10.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[03:56] <jwayne> how do i check?
[03:56] <apokryphos> configure would fail if you didn't have bulid-essential
[03:57] <apokryphos> if you're on to make, then I presume it hasn't?
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> looks like configure failed to me, but *shrugs* i can ohnly see 2 lines :)
[03:57] <jwayne> i have buils-essential
[03:57] <apokryphos> what's the configure error then? What's the error output?
[03:57] <jwayne> and the headers
[03:57] <apokryphos> it will tell you exactly the problem :)
[03:58] <jwayne> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:58] <apokryphos> that obviously means there's no configure in the directory that you are currently in
[03:58] <jwayne> Im not sure i have to run configure
[03:58] <apokryphos> what application is it/
[03:58] <jwayne> there are allready a makefile
[03:59] <apokryphos> that doesn't mean you have to configure now
[03:59] <mornfall> omg jjesse
[03:59] <jwayne> its bcm5700-8.1.55 (drivers for my eth0) 
[04:00] <jwayne> tar:ed from a open source
[04:00] <jwayne> into a tmp directory
[04:01] <apokryphos> read the README or INSTALL file that it probably comes with
[04:02] <jwayne> done that
[04:02] <jwayne> it says untar into a directory
[04:02] <jwayne> then: make
[04:02] <apokryphos> so go for it
[04:02] <apokryphos> what's the error?
[04:03] <jwayne> wait
[04:05] <jwayne> it was something with the headers
[04:05] <jwayne> reinstalled them
[04:05] <jwayne> and it is woring
[04:05] <jwayne> working
[04:05] <jwayne> solved it after 5h
[04:05] <jwayne> :-(
[04:06] <jwayne> newbee ass you se...
[04:06] <apokryphos> :)
[04:12] <jwayne> now i installed the driver with "make install" - it say
[04:13] <jwayne> the documention says that its optional to patch it into the kernel
[04:13] <jwayne> what reasons are there for patching it?
[04:15] <jwayne> and how do I check that the driver realy are loaded
[04:15] <jwayne> its a driver for a ehernet card as I said before
[04:54] <claviola> hi folks.  I'm a kde user, but I use plain old boring debian, so I'm wondering what changes did kubuntu do to kde.  I hear you guys have hal+udev+etc support like GNOME's, which I don't have here
[04:56] <amu> claviola: see http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/
[04:57] <apokryphos> And far quicker at packaging :)
[04:59] <claviola> amu: hi :)
[05:05] <amu> claviola: hi 
[05:09] <nikkia> apokryphos: oi!
[05:09] <frans-th> :P
[05:10] <apokryphos> nikkia: oieeoi
[05:10] <nikkia> apokryphos: tell your crazy relatives to stop calling me :P
[05:10] <apokryphos> There's no way to stop them, I'm afraid.
[05:10] <apokryphos> They out-argue me everytime
[05:11] <apokryphos> haha
[05:11] <apokryphos> you should've told me earlier; I'd give you responses ;-)
[05:12] <nikkia> apokryphos: i doubt i could have transcribed what she was saying anyway
[05:12] <apokryphos> nikkia: did you say you'd seen My Big Fat Greek Wedding?
[05:12] <cezmi> can somebody help me about GRUB?
[05:13] <nikkia> apokryphos: i'd have been lying if i had
[05:13] <apokryphos> nikkia: o_O. Criminal. You gotta see it. :D
[05:13] <nikkia> wow, this is exciting
[05:14] <apokryphos> It's scary how similar our family is, in manyways.
[05:14] <apokryphos> Give me any word, and I'll show you how it comes from a Greek one :P
[05:15] <nikkia> and once more ITV scrapes the bottom of the barrel with voice-controlled puyo puyo
[05:16] <apokryphos> nikkia: wathced so little TV lately I found it odd when I actually did yesterday
[05:16] <nikkia> apokryphos: same here, really
[05:16] <apokryphos> thinking about it, BB was pretty much the only thing I was watching at one point
[05:17] <nikkia> apokryphos: however, my 'computer room' TV is always left on, for my xbox
[05:17] <nikkia> apokryphos: and when i turned the power back on after the storm passed, it came back on on ITV, and i haven't bothered to turn it off yet
[05:18] <apokryphos> you turn power off during storm there?
[05:18] <nikkia> apokryphos: i did during that one
[05:18] <nikkia> wait until it hits you in a few minutes
[05:18] <apokryphos> Sounds like you get some real mean ones there
[05:18] <nikkia> it went from 'daylight' to 'OMG, its night? where's the light switch?' in about 3 seconds
[05:19] <apokryphos> started drizzling earlier here; I wish we had thunderstorms. I quite like them, really. :)
[05:19] <_stef> hello, new problem
[05:19] <apokryphos> Radical weather changes
[05:19] <nikkia> apokryphos: and as storms go, that was scary for the UK, saw much worse in the US of course...
[05:19] <_stef>  I want to hear music but I cant mount the cdrom with music on it, data cd is okay
[05:19] <_stef> what went wrong?
[05:20] <_stef> since yesterday I was able to hear music
[05:20] <nikkia> stef, you don't 'mount' audio CDs
[05:20] <_stef> ?
[05:20] <apokryphos> it's not a filesystem
[05:20] <_stef> I see
[05:20] <nikkia> stef, you can use the KDE ioslaves to listen to music by using media://  and opening the cd from there
[05:20] <nikkia> or you can use something like xmms to play the audio cd
[05:21] <_stef> but when I use kscd then t I have a read error
[05:22] <apokryphos> or audiocd:/
[05:23] <nikkia> well, thats another 180 gone :/
[05:24] <apokryphos> whatwhat
[05:24] <_stef> with audiocd I get an error that the cd drive does not exist
[05:24] <nikkia> apokryphos: just ordering some more stuff :P
[05:25] <_stef> but with data cd I can mount the drive
[05:25] <apokryphos> nikkia: those two computers not arrived yet?
[05:25] <nikkia> apokryphos: nope
[05:25] <apokryphos> _stef: yes
[05:25] <nikkia> apokryphos: well, that i know of, my boss is on holiday til tuesday
[05:25] <nikkia> well, 'holiday', he's testing my game, muhahahahha
[05:25] <nikkia> payback is sweet
[05:25] <apokryphos> 8)
[05:28] <nikkia> apokryphos: its not as fun as it sounds
[05:28] <apokryphos> For ya'll, I'm sure.
[05:29] <apokryphos> be back in a bit
[05:29] <_stef> I dont know what is wrong since yesterday i could here music. What is happened?
[05:29] <_stef> till yesterday
[05:30] <nikkia> stef, dunno, did you reboot ?
[05:30] <_stef> yes I have done that 
[05:31] <_stef> thats the first thing I do in case of such problems
[05:31] <nikkia> no, i was meaning, if you rebooted, it might be that a module you had loaded before, isn't anymore
[05:32] <cezmi> can somebody help me
[05:32] <_stef> ahh  I see
[05:32] <_stef> what a module could it be?
[05:33] <Tm_T> nikkia: I can feel your pain :/
[05:34] <nikkia> Tm_T: ?
[05:34] <Tm_T> nothing =)
[05:35] <_stef> what is the music-module ;-)   ?
[05:43] <apokryphos> nikkia: that cheap HSBC mp3-player arrived... and it *almost* came with a free battery (i.e. it didn't). 
[05:43] <apokryphos> nikkia: wanna place bets on its life-expectency? ;)
[05:43] <nikkia> heh
[05:44] <nikkia> apokryphos: i bet its the same as the bush '64MB' player i have here
[05:44] <apokryphos> Has "Digital Player" in big flashy letters on the box
[05:44] <apokryphos> the player itself looks... tacky as plastic :P
[05:44] <nikkia> (they claim 64MB by counting the fact that WMA files at 64kbps are 'just as good' as MP3 at 128kbps, and thus you can fit twice as many on its 32MB flash
[05:45] <apokryphos> omg
[05:45] <nikkia> apokryphos: yeah, thats what i thought too
[05:45] <apokryphos> this is 512 -- surprising
[05:45] <apokryphos> unfortunately, I'm sure it won't make it last a day longer
[05:45] <nikkia> thats not too bad
[05:45] <apokryphos> I'm saying a week-and-a-half
[05:46] <apokryphos> (if I use it)
[05:46] <apokryphos> the first tacky one I got was around two weeks
[05:49] <nikkia> http://nikki.sexadelic.com/~nikki/mp3.png <- crappy mp3 player :)
[05:49] <_stef> okay the musi problem is that my cdrom1 under /dev is away
[05:49] <nikkia> _stef, ahh, that's a udev issue
[05:49] <_stef> How can I add  the cdrom drive?
[05:49] <_stef> udev?
[05:49] <nikkia> _stef, udev by default assigns every cdrom it finds to /dev/cdrom, thus if you have 2, they both get to be /dev/cdrom  and thus only the second one is visible
[05:50] <apokryphos> nikkia: woo, mine has a screen 8)
[05:50] <nikkia> _stef, udev is the new way that /dev gets generated
[05:50] <nikkia> apokryphos: heh
[05:50] <apokryphos> looks like the average cheap mp3 player; the little ones
[05:50] <_stef> I see
[05:50] <nikkia> apokryphos: even more amazing, is, that POS is actually USB 2.0
[05:50] <_stef> and what shall I do now?
[05:50] <apokryphos> hah! How long ago?
[05:50] <nikkia> apokryphos: and it is, at least, just a dumb usb-storage device
[05:50] <nikkia> apokryphos: a year?
[05:50] <apokryphos> nikkia: with 64 megs of space you need fast-transfer
[05:50] <apokryphos> :P
[05:51] <nikkia> apokryphos: as you can tell, just, by the pic... the left end pulls off to reveal a USB connector
[05:52] <nikkia> _stef, for now, create a /dev/cdrom1  link that points to the actual device node
[05:52] <apokryphos> aha; mine's like this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UK-Seller-512MB-USB-MP3-Player-512-MB-Pen-Disk-Drive_W0QQitemZ5233885306QQcategoryZ51074QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
[05:52] <nikkia> it'll be /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd or so
[05:52] <nikkia> apokryphos: oh, its one of those
[05:52] <nikkia> apokryphos: those are made by a decent company, iirc, philips? 
[05:53] <apokryphos> mine's not exactly the same as that, but similar
[05:53] <apokryphos> the one I have almost surely isn't
[05:53] <apokryphos> no manual, just an unbranded box
[05:53] <nikkia> Hmmmm
[05:53] <nikkia> thats odd
[05:53] <nikkia> i just plugged that mp3 player in...
[05:53] <nikkia> and on LFS its reporting 62MB
[05:53] <apokryphos> :-O
[05:54] <nikkia> on knoppix, it said it was a 32MB partition
[05:54] <apokryphos> so all along... 
[05:54] <apokryphos> heh
[05:54] <nikkia> not much use tho, it has one album on there and its full
[05:55] <apokryphos> I'm actually wondering why I didn't take the 10 CDs
[05:55] <apokryphos> wonder what I was thinking :/
[05:56] <apokryphos> they're more fun to throw around than an mp3-player
[05:56] <nikkia> apokryphos: ah, its 'Ministry of Sound'
[05:57] <frogtone25> hello
[05:57] <frogtone25> i need to know how you change cursors on kubuntu
[05:58] <OculusAquilae> in the control center at mouse
[05:58] <frogtone25> ok
[05:58] <_stef> I tried a udev restart
[05:59] <nikkia> _stef, it won't do any good unless you rewrite the udev rules
[06:00] <frogtone25> ok i tried to get the cursor theme to work on here
[06:00] <frogtone25> but it says its not a valid theme 
[06:00] <frogtone25> how do i make it a valid theme
[06:00] <OculusAquilae> which theme?
[06:01] <Taker> HI
[06:01] <frogtone25> OS X.CurXPTheme
[06:01] <OculusAquilae> link?
[06:01] <frogtone25> i know it says xp
[06:01] <OculusAquilae> is it for xp?
[06:01] <frogtone25> http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread.php?t=23388&page=1&pp=20
[06:02] <frogtone25> maybe
[06:02] <frogtone25> but cant i make it work on here
[06:02] <apokryphos> you need to use KDE mouse themes
[06:02] <frogtone25> they are .png files
[06:02] <apokryphos> or you have to make your own
[06:02] <OculusAquilae> frogtone: look at kde-look.org
[06:02] <OculusAquilae> perhaps http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=22324
[06:02] <apokryphos> get a mouse theme from there, download it and compare, if you really wanna install that one
[06:02] <Taker> Hot to add two variables in a bash-scirpt together?
[06:03] <Taker> How
[06:05] <Taker> ?
[06:08] <nikkia> Taker: expr
[06:09] <nikkia> as such:
[06:09] <nikkia> nikki@nikki:~$ expr 1 + 2
[06:09] <Taker> nikkia: ?
[06:09] <nikkia> 3
[06:09] <Johnny-> Could somebody help me?
[06:10] <Taker> Johnny-: Just type your question
[06:10] <apokryphos> !helpme
[06:10] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:10] <Johnny-> I have installed Kubuntu...but when it tries to boot up normally i get very colorful blinking messed up screen instead of the log in -screen :/
[06:10] <Johnny-> I have tried reinstalling
[06:10] <apokryphos> factoid seems a little abrupt, but it's direct ;-)
[06:10] <_stef> ohhje , dont know what I should do with the udev rule.conf
[06:11] <_stef>  Is there an easier way?
[06:11] <_stef> to add a cdrom?
[06:11] <Johnny-> I have got it working one time...but that's it. It was the second time i reinstalled, then it worked...but when i booted it up again same problem...reinstalling did not help :/
[06:11] <apokryphos> Johnny-: do you have an ATI/nvidia?
[06:11] <Johnny-> Nvidia 6600GT AGP
[06:12] <apokryphos> Ok. When it starts playing up hit Ctrl + Alt + F1 to go to a different session
[06:12] <Johnny-> The color just shift
[06:12] <Johnny-> +s
[06:12] <Johnny-> Ctrl+alt+delete did not work neither
[06:13] <apokryphos> ctrl+alt+F1 should take you to a terminal session
[06:13] <apokryphos> it doesn't?
[06:13] <Johnny-> Hmmm...ill try one more time
[06:13] <Johnny-> Takes a while...im on windows now :P
[06:13] <apokryphos> F1-F6
[06:13] <apokryphos> no problem
[06:14] <nikkia> hah
[06:14] <Johnny-> Hmmmm...now it is just one color when i booted it :D
[06:14] <nikkia> of all the people in our company.... thunderbird marks ONE person's emails as junk every time
[06:15] <apokryphos> heh
[06:15] <Johnny-> Ctrl+alt+F1-6 does nothing...
[06:15] <apokryphos> :/
[06:16] <apokryphos> You'll have to try to start Ubuntu in Failsafe session, then
[06:16] <Johnny-> And when i am in the recovery console, startx is unknown command and apt-get update&apt-get install says that 74 packets are not upgraded
[06:16] <apokryphos> erm, this is hoary right?
[06:16] <Johnny-> Yep
[06:17] <apokryphos> go into a recovery console, install the nvidia drivers
[06:17] <Johnny-> Downloaded today again...
[06:17] <Johnny-> How do i install them?
[06:17] <apokryphos> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[06:17] <Johnny-> Ill give it a go
[06:17] <apokryphos> !nvidia
[06:17] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:20] <Johnny-> Rebooting...
[06:20] <apokryphos> wait
[06:20] <apokryphos> did you follow all the instructions there?
[06:20] <Johnny-> Yep
[06:21] <Johnny-> But i installed it with sudo apt-get install...
[06:21] <frogtone25> ok 
[06:21] <frogtone25> i need some help
[06:21] <Johnny-> And it WORKS!!!
[06:21] <apokryphos> =)
[06:21] <Johnny-> apokryphos, thanks you very very very much dude!
[06:21] <frogtone25> i need to know where can i go other than kdelook.org to find some macosx icons for linux 
[06:22] <frogtone25> and i need to know how to install theme
[06:22] <Tm_T> :/
[06:22] <_daniel> hello all.  i've got problems with the ibook touchpad
[06:29] <Tm_T> ?
[06:30] <nikkia> tm_t, i'd forgotten to make kopete connect after rebooting
[06:30] <nikkia> tm_t, so hit the 'connect everything, damn it' button
[06:30] <Tm_T> haha
[06:30] <nikkia> which now google have IM, runs into the 'dozens' of IM accounts :)
[06:31] <Tm_T> yep, Kopete supports too many IM-systems =)
[06:31] <Tm_T> "and I have to use all of them!"
[06:32] <Tm_T> ;)
[06:34] <_buz> is it like normal that amarok crashes all 5 songs
[06:36] <nikkia> buz, IME, yeah :)
[06:36] <Tm_T> =)
[06:37] <Tm_T> _buz: and version is...
[06:37] <nikkia> oh apok left, that'd explain why he isn't religiously defending amarok :P
[06:37] <Tm_T> haha
[06:37] <Tm_T> but I'm here!
[06:40] <Tm_T> _buz: well?
[06:49] <_root> :)
[06:50] <eros> could someone help me a sec
[06:50] <eros> how can i see my windows network
[06:50] <eros> in kubuntu
[06:51] <nikkia> eros, open konqueror, type smb:/   in the location
[06:51] <eros> hmm
[06:51] <eros> thats wierd
[06:51] <eros> idon't see anything
[06:51] <eros> but in ubuntu everything worked
[06:52] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> It's still broken?
[06:53] <apokryphos> no, but composite extension is, and has been for some time.
[06:53] <eros> Anyone =] ?
[06:53] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> Ouch
[06:53] <apokryphos> get a straight freeze-up on trying to enable it
[06:54] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> Well, there's still two months to go
[06:54] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> eros: Did you leave the window open? The shares don't neccessarily show up immediately
[06:54] <eros> yeahj
[06:54] <eros> after a while it gave an error
[06:55] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> Which was...?
[06:56] <eros> unable to find any workgroups in local workgroup
[07:00] <eros> Rogue_Jedi_Zero: any tips
[07:00] <eros> i gave my local domain name 
[07:01] <eros> which I also use for the windows computers
[07:01] <eros> (dad,mom) etc
[07:01] <eros> But somehow they don't show up
[07:02] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> Quite frankly, I'm stumped
[07:02] <eros> ah
[07:02] <eros> anyone else :)?
[07:03] <eros> this is wierd
[07:03] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> Wait, you gave your local domain name? What did you mean by that?
[07:03] <eros> now my others pc's don't see eachother
[07:03] <eros> uehm
[07:03] <eros> like mshome
[07:03] <eros> etc
[07:03] <eros> in workgroep
[07:03] <eros> *oup
[07:03] <Poromies> hmmh, do you have windowsXP's firewall enabled or something, sounds quite odd
[07:04] <Poromies> :)
[07:04] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> So your mom and dad use the same workgroup
[07:04] <eros> yeah
[07:04] <eros> nope
[07:04] <eros> win xp is out of the question
[07:04] <eros> I hate that little bugger :>
[07:04] <spiral> hi
[07:04] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> Try typing smb://mshome then
[07:05] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> Other than that, I'm out of ideas
[07:05] <Rogue_Jedi_Zero> mshome being your domain name
[07:06] <eros> could not connect
[07:06] <eros> to "..."
[07:17] <Johnny-> How can i mount ntfs partion in to Kubuntu?
[07:18] <Taker> Johnny-: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/directory
[07:18] <Taker> Johnny-: and if you want to access by a user -o uid=username
[07:19] <Johnny-> Oookey...
[07:19] <Taker> Johnny-: But notice: mount ntfs read only
[07:28] <_buz> Taker: the linux ntfs project claims they can do rw
[07:28] <_buz> but how does one get rw to work
[07:32] <EasterSunshine> _buz: its highly unrecommened but pass rw,umask=000 to it
[07:32] <_buz> i just trashed the last ntfs partition in my system (a xfs one replaced it) but thanks for the info ;)
[07:42] <bjorn_> hey
[07:42] <bjorn_> I'm trying to login to KDE
[07:42] <bjorn_> but i'm getting alot of errors
[07:42] <bjorn_> like dcop not running ?
[08:03] <apokryphos> bjorn_: how did you isntall? Did you not sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop?
[08:05] <jkyro> hello
[08:47] <gsuveg> re
[08:48] <gsuveg> anyone know that gmail can send message to kopete if i get new mail into gmail ?
[08:53] <Tm_T> #kopete propably knows
[08:53] <Tm_T> I'd say no
[08:54] <gdh> I wouldn't be surprised with the Google Talk stuff :)
[08:54] <gdh> Yay for Google and Jabber
[09:02] <Tm_T> yuk for all but rc ;)
[09:02] <Tm_T> s/rc/irc
[09:02] <chakie> does kubuntu follow the release schedule of ubuntu + some extra time for kde?
[09:02] <Tm_T> maybe
[09:02] <Tm_T> roadmap
[09:10] <frogtone25> can you change the boot screen on here
[09:10] <frogtone25> is it possible
[09:10] <frogtone25> does anyone know if it is or not
[09:14] <^Cricket^> anyone know where i can get koffice?
[09:20] <frogtone25> synaptic
[09:20] <frogtone25> try that
[09:20] <frogtone25> go into synaptic and click search
[09:21] <frogtone25> and put koffice
[09:31] <jjesse> mornfall: did you get my email about adept i sent you?
[09:33] <slow-motion> hi
[09:34] <mornfall> jjesse: yeah, it is a bit ill-informed though
[09:34] <mornfall> jjesse: the "errors" there are debconf warnings and dpkg output
[09:34] <jjesse> mornfall: ok
[09:35] <jjesse> mornfall: also i doubt that it is working correctly, installed phpmyadmin thrugh adept and i don't think it instaleld everything correctly
[09:36] <jjesse> mornfall:  wth adept thru simple apt-get on a different kubuntu system just installed phpmyadmin and it instaled apache and mysql and phpmyadmin, started both of those up then
[09:36] <mornfall> jjesse: you may doubt as much as you like
[09:37] <mornfall> jjesse: the only difference i can think of is recommends handling
[09:38] <jjesse> mornfall: i tried to install mysql-server-4.1 thru adept and it said it was complete however couldn't start mysql
[09:38] <jjesse> mornfall: had to install mysql-server-4.1 thru apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 to get it to work
[09:39] <mornfall> let me try
[09:39] <mornfall> hoary?
[09:40] <jjesse> yes hoary
[09:41] <mornfall> installing mysql now
[09:42] <mornfall> jjesse: it started just fine
[09:44] <mornfall> if you can give a more detailed report, i can retry... but i somehow doubt your problem is related to adept at all
[09:45] <mornfall> (and apt-get install phpmyadmin does _not_ install mysql-server)
[09:46] <jjesse> hmm ok looking into and ill get you a more detailed reprot once i figure it out
[09:49] <mornfall> --> food
[09:55] <slow-motion> i want to mount my windows drives as rw not only as ro, do i also need the option user in /etc/fstab?
[09:59] <mornfall> slow-motion: only possible with vfat i believe (not ntfs)
[10:00] <slow-motion> yes vfat
[10:01] <slow-motion> and what exactly does "defaults" mean? can i keep it and write rw,user behind it?
[10:01] <mornfall> yeah, sure
[10:04] <slow-motion> ok, i be back in a few minutes
[10:13] <slow-motion> hm, my vfat drives seem to be writeabla, but root owns it
[10:15] <slow-motion> it is my f*cking drive, how can i own own it?
[10:16] <peaker> slow-motion: Did you mount it manually?
[10:16] <slow-motion> no with /etc/fstab
[10:17] <peaker> slow-motion: There's the uid/gid option, you can set uid/gid to be your user
[10:17] <peaker> but I think here it did this automatically, when I used kde's media access
[10:20] <slow-motion> Peaker is the uid/gid option in the options section?
[10:20] <bazan> Hey are you using gmail via pop3?
[10:23] <Firetech> anyone else here that experiences that kicker renders SVG icons (at least Crystal SVG) much brighter than it should? (Kubuntu hoary, KDE 3.4.2)
[10:23] <slow-motion> my vfat drives are mounted as (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[10:23] <_jose> hola
[10:24] <_jose> alguien sabe si el amarok se puede poner como applet para que se inicie siempre???
[10:25] <slow-motion> i got it. i think
[10:25] <slow-motion> in /etc/mtab
[10:27] <slow-motion> /dev/hda1 /media/win-c vfat rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 1000 1000 < is that right?
[10:27] <slow-motion> _jose please speak english, that is what most people speak
[10:28] <slow-motion> back in a few minutes
[10:33] <slow-motion> where do i set the uid/gid option for my drives to make them writeable?
[10:34] <slow-motion> i made them writeable in the /etc/fstab
[10:35] <slow-motion> now i need to set it so that not root has the rights on the drives
[10:38] <slow-motion> dev/hda1       /media/win-c    vfat    defaults,rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0 < is that the right entry?
[10:45] <slow-motion> all right, i can write my windows drives now
[10:47] <Taker> slow-motion: do you have got ntfs oder fat?
[10:47] <slow-motion> vfat
[10:48] <slow-motion> /dev/hda1       /media/win-c    vfat    defaults,rw,user,uid=1000,gid=1000  0  0
[11:10] <_StarScream> hi guys, is there something between hoary and breezy? so i can update broken packages that bug fixes only
[11:10] <_StarScream> that are* bugfixes 
[11:11] <_StarScream> like cpufreq stuff and kde 3.4.2 (there are no PPC packages in the link above)
[11:19] <stef> puh, Im back again
[11:20] <stef> I have some problems adding a cdrom
[11:20] <stef> on this way I had a crashed init
[11:20] <stef> so I have a bit trouble to boot my linux
[11:21] <stef> okay No Im here but the old problem still exists
[11:21] <stef> Im not able to add a second cdrom
[11:21] <stef> Can someone help?
[11:23] <stef>  I dont know why and where its gone.
[11:24] <stef> cause yesterday I could hear music. no I cant't
[11:24] <stef> I can mount data cd's but not music cd's
[11:25] <stef> I saw that there is no such device under /dev
[11:25] <stef> mean /dev/cdrom1
[11:25] <stef> no such device
[11:25] <stef> silly question: where is it?
[11:26] <stef> Or how can I create it?
[11:28] <hussam> Does anybody else see this? some ubuntubackports packages appear as local in synaptic.
[11:28] <hussam> maybe I should ask in #ubuntu
[11:28] <sxe> stef: on which ide port is your second cdrom?
[11:32] <stef> I mean on the second slave
[11:32] <sxe> ok .. then try to mount it .. mount /dev/hdd /yourdir
[11:33] <sxe> ./dev/hdd is the second slave .. hdc the first .. 
[11:35] <stef> I have some other partitions here in fstab its /dev/hdg
[11:35] <sxe> hm.. ok .. :] 
[11:36] <sxe> does it work?
[11:37] <stef> no, long message with wrong fs type...
[11:37] <stef> there is a music cd inserted
[11:37] <Blissex> hussam: if they have been installed and then they are no longer in the repository.
[11:37] <sxe> hm..
[11:38] <hussam> Blissex: yeah that's what's happening. Samba and other stuff disappeared.
[11:38] <sxe> i think the kind of cd doesnt change the mount type
[11:38] <stef> thats what I dont understand
[11:38] <sxe> a audio cd is a cd too 
[11:38] <stef> Ican mount data cds but not music
[11:39] <hussam> Blissex: could it be they are having a problem on the server where the backports files are stored?
[11:39] <sxe> maybe the cd has a copyprotektion..
[11:39] <sxe> protection
[11:39] <stef> no heard it sometimes here
[11:39] <sxe> strange
[11:39] <stef> and I tzreid another music cd
[11:39] <Blissex> hussam: perhaps, or perhaps they just no longer provide them. Even backports are not forever...
[11:40] <sxe> sry i cant help you than 
[11:40] <hussam> Blissex: at least I managed to install them before they removed them :)
[11:40] <stef> hmmm, I'll try my local linux user group...
[11:40] <sxe> ok
[11:40] <Blissex> hussam: you could just upgrade your system to something current...
[11:40] <stef> or someone has spontan an idea?
[11:41] <skalpel> hi can someone tell me how to change my default terminal in kubuntu?
[11:41] <skalpel> it is using gnome-terminal for some reason
[11:41] <Tm_T> err
[11:41] <hussam> Blissex: how? I am on hoary.
[11:41] <Tm_T> Blissex: ehm
[11:42] <Blissex> hussam: uh? Why did you install Samba from backports then? Hoary has pretty recent Samba...
[11:42] <Blissex> skalpel: depends... Look at 'KDE components:Component Chooser'
[11:43] <hussam> Blissex: hoary has 3.0.10 but I got 3.0.14 from backports when I first installed hoary
[11:43] <chris> hello
[11:44] <Blissex> hussam: not worth the bother I'd say... the difference is pretty small.
[11:44] <skalpel> Blissex: i already have 'xterm' as my chosen terminal emulator, but when i choose terminal from my kde menu i get gnome-tterminal
[11:45] <Blissex> skalpel: ahhhhh, just edit the menu. First try running 'update-menus' though, just in case.
[11:45] <stef> ahhh Ihave it :-)
[11:46] <Rogue_Jedi_X> This may not exactly be (k)ubuntu related, but how would I go about getting a gmail account?
[11:46] <stef> In kscd i just use the another cdrom as my player and switch it than back to the old
[11:46] <stef> now I have music again!! :-)
[11:46] <stef> ???
[11:47] <skalpel> skalpel@emachine:~$ update-menus
[11:47] <skalpel> bash: update-menus: command not found
[11:47] <Blissex> skalpel: ah, ok, just go ahead and edit the menu then.
[11:48] <skalpel> how do i do that?
[11:48] <Blissex> skalpel: 'kmenueditor' or right click on the big K menu and select 'Menu editor'.
[11:50] <skalpel> also, how do i change keyboard shortcuts in kde?
[11:50] <Tm_T> Rogue_Jedi_X: you need invitation?
[11:50] <Tm_T> skalpel: kcontrol
[11:51] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Tm_T: I could use one, yeah
[11:51] <Tm_T> haha
[11:51] <Tm_T> don't ask from me =)
[11:52] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Bastard :P
[11:52] <hussam> I still have tons of gmail invites
[11:52] <Tm_T> ] ;=
[11:52] <hussam> Rogue_Jedi_: do you want an invite?
[11:52] <Tm_T> hussam: ssshhh
[11:52] <Tm_T> !
[11:52] <ubotu> Tm_T: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:52] <Rogue_Jedi_X> hussam: Please.
[11:53] <Tm_T> ubotu: oh shut up
[11:53] <ubotu> Tm_T: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:53] <hussam> Rogue_Jedi_X: msg me your current email and full name
[11:53] <Rogue_Jedi_X> Alright
[11:56] <skalpel> Tm_T: i do not see anything about keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol
[11:56] <Tm_T> skalpel: there is
[11:56] <Tm_T> regional & accessiblity ->
[11:57] <skalpel> thank you
[11:59] <Tm_T> np :)