[12:18] <mdz> are we ready for the ABI change dance?
[03:01] <lamont> jbailey: I actually have a few of the canonical-pressed hplaptop CD's/.
[03:31] <zul> heylo
[04:31] <fabbione> morning 
[05:24] <desrt> are restricted modules meant to be working?
[05:25] <desrt> like, should i start filing reports if they are not?
[05:29] <fabbione> desrt: just 2 minutes and i will be back..
[05:33] <fabbione> desrt: soo.. what problem do you have?
[05:33] <desrt> fabbione; basically, nothing works :)
[05:34] <desrt> madwifi, fglrx
[05:34] <fabbione> desrt: stop.. what arch?
[05:34] <desrt> madwifi on my powerbook
[05:34] <desrt> fglrx on my 686-smp
[05:34] <fabbione> desrt: ok.. do this as a temporary workaround...
[05:34] <fabbione> edit /sbin/lrm-manager
[05:35] <fabbione> where it calls ld
[05:35] <desrt> incidentally, the CVS madwifi drivers work great
[05:35] <fabbione> and replace it with /bin/ld_static
[05:35] <fabbione> reboot and everything will work
[05:35] <desrt> wow.
[05:35] <fabbione> desrt: madwifi is from CVS
[05:35] <desrt> that's that volatile business, i suppose
[05:35] <fabbione> or execute lrm-manager again
[05:35] <fabbione> yes
[05:35] <fabbione> that's correct
[05:36] <desrt> this is awesomeness
[05:36] <desrt> i'll let you know how it goes
[05:36] <desrt> what's the word with the agpgart vendor patches against fglrx, btw?
[05:39] <desrt> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"
[05:39] <desrt> i really don't know if i should be bugging you or daniels :)
[05:39] <fabbione> none of us...
[05:39] <fabbione> we have no source for that crap
[05:39] <desrt> :P
[05:39] <fabbione> :)
[05:39] <desrt> well
[05:39] <desrt> daniels said he got the R350 mesa driver into X
[05:40] <desrt> so maybe i'll just switch to that....
[05:40] <fabbione> yes he did...
[05:40] <desrt> *ahem* *nudge*
[05:40] <desrt> :)
[05:44] <desrt> anyway.  still in the same place
[05:44] <desrt> i'm gonna try your ld_static thing and see what madwifi does on my powerbook
[05:44] <fabbione> it should work without any problem
[05:45] <fabbione> otherwise open a bug, but i am not sure to who you should assign it
[05:45] <fabbione> i am out of kernel business :;)
[05:45] <desrt> there is a known problem in cvs madwifi drivers on ppc
[05:45] <desrt> if the interface is 'up' then the system will lock up when it tries to go to sleep
[05:45] <desrt> i'm gonna make sure the problem actually occurs with the drivers ubuntu is shipping
[05:46] <fabbione> desrt: i am pretty there would be no problem to get it fixed if you have the patch or the diff or the right pointer...
[05:47] <desrt> fabbione; what i do now is just have a power event script for 'suspend' that does ifconfig ath0 down
[05:47] <desrt> fabbione; i'm gonna try and find out more
[12:48] <sedak> hello here
[12:52] <sedak> i want to know if someone would like to have a look on the module package i made
[12:52] <sedak> ?
[12:52] <sedak> for now it's still on the REVU system for MOTU, waiting for comment before it get uploaded
[12:54] <sedak> but as it is a little too sensitive to be reviewed by MOTU, i'd been ask to ask you to heve a look and tell if the package is fine
[12:54] <sedak> it's here:
[12:54] <sedak> http://siretart.tauware.de/revu/details.py?upid=481
[02:30] <zul> morning
[02:40] <fabbione> hey zul
[02:42] <zul> hey fabbione how is it going?
[02:45] <fabbione> zul: as usual... tired,..
[02:45] <fabbione> i am going to stop soon today
[02:45] <zul> whatcha been working on?
[02:46] <fabbione> installs, upgrades from hoary, livecd, ltsp 
[02:46] <zul> fun fun
[02:47] <fabbione> eheh yeah
[02:50] <fabbione> later dude
[02:55] <zul> c ya
[02:57] <{Seb}> any kernel people around?
[02:57] <{Seb}> got a problem with breezy kernel
[02:57] <{Seb}> modules-related
[02:58] <chmj> shoot 
[02:59] <{Seb}> i've installed ndiswrapper-utils
[02:59] <{Seb}> and installed the windows driver and it works (in a fasion)
[02:59] <{Seb}> in hoary, i just added 'ndiswrapper' to the /etc/modules file
[02:59] <{Seb}> but on boot, i think it isn't loading the module
[03:00] <{Seb}> because it hangs on 'Loading Modules...'
[03:00] <{Seb}> and only continues when i remove the adaptor
[03:00] <{Seb}> idea?
[03:00] <{Seb}> anythign i can try?
[03:00] <{Seb}> would you like an exact error?
[03:02] <{Seb}> has this problem been seen?
[03:02] <{Seb}> is the ndiswrapper module out of date?
[03:03] <sedak> i tried the ndiswrapper module in breezy and it worked for me
[03:03] <sedak> what is your card ?
[03:03] <{Seb}> D-Link DWL-G122
[03:03] <{Seb}> the USB adpator works fine
[03:03] <{Seb}> once i remove it and re-insert it
[03:04] <{Seb}> just seems on boot is the proble
[03:04] <sedak> well
[03:04] <sedak> i don't really know
[03:05] <sedak> did you try to reinstall the driver in breezy or you've just kept the one in hoary ?
[03:05] <{Seb}> how can i check the kernel is loading the module
[03:05] <{Seb}> it was fresh install
[03:05] <sedak> ok
[03:05] <sedak> when you try to load the module
[03:05] <sedak> is their something in syslog ?
[03:05] <sedak> there
[03:06] <{Seb}> no, what i did was add an entry to /etc/modules
[03:06] <sedak> and when you modprobe ndiswrapper ?
[03:06] <{Seb}> it works
[03:06] <sedak> ah ...
[03:07] <sedak> well, i have no idea about this pb
[03:07] <{Seb}> when i turn the laptop on
[03:07] <{Seb}> the adaptor is plugged in
[03:07] <{Seb}> and the boot process stops at Loading Modules....
[03:07] <{Seb}> and when i remove the adaptor, it continues
[03:07] <{Seb}> but i plugged it striaght back in at it works
[03:08] <{Seb}> i remember this behavior from hoary
[03:08] <{Seb}> which i solved by adding the line to /etc/modules
[03:12] <sedak> so it's on usb ?
[03:12] <{Seb}> yeh
[03:13] <sedak> maybe you need to load the usb driver before ...
[03:13] <sedak> well, i'm only guessing
[03:13] <{Seb}> are you a kernel hacker?
[03:13] <sedak> not really ...
[03:13] <sedak> i wish i was
[03:14] <sedak> i'm only here to get a driver approved :-)
[03:14] <sedak> normally, the only thing i know is how to build the kernel package, sorry to deceive you
[03:52] <{Seb}> the error i get is
[03:52] <{Seb}> "ndiswrapper (usb_reset_port:633): usb_reset_device() = -19
[03:52] <{Seb}>      ndiswrapper (usb_reset_port:633): usb_reset_device() = -22
[03:52] <{Seb}>      Windows driver couldn't initalize the device
[04:23] <zul> {Seb}: open a bug in bugzilla we might able to do antyhing or check with the ndiswrapper folks
[04:24] <{Seb}> i'm building 1.3rc1
[04:25] <{Seb}> which might fix it
[04:25] <{Seb}> because the version in the repos is quite old
[04:25] <{Seb}> it is 1.1
[04:28] <{Seb}> the update could possible fix it
[04:34] <zul> 2.6.10?
[04:34] <BenC> zul: any luck with the yukon driver?
[04:35] <zul> BenC: i didnt have a chance to last night my wife wanted to spend quality time last night
[04:35] <BenC> man's biggest productivity killer, "quality time" :)
[04:35] <zul> {Seb}: i know...breezy has 1.1
[04:36] <{Seb}> will it be updatde?
[04:38] <zul> breezy has 2.6.12
[04:38] <zul> BenC: ever since we got married she got really needy
[04:39] <zul> but ill be starting it tonight 
[04:39] <{Seb}> no, i mean will the ndiswrapper package (and module be updated)
[04:40] <{Seb}> as I suspect this is the cause
[04:41] <zul> no it wont you will have to update it yourself hoary only is for security fixes and the like
[04:44] <zul> i think there is instrucions on the wiki to install ndiswrapper
[04:48] <zul> or you can upgrade to breezy
[04:49] <{Seb}> i'm runny Breezy
[04:49] <{Seb}> and have been for some while
[04:49] <{Seb}> but the ndiswrapper-utils and modules are out of date
[05:06] <BenC> zul: take your time, I'm out of commission atleast for today
[05:06] <{Seb}> nope, when i add it to /etc/modules,
[05:06] <{Seb}> it just hangs on Loading Modules...
[05:15] <dilinger> blah, the ndiswrapper people are up to 1.3rc1
[05:16] <{Seb}> exactly
[05:16] <{Seb}> and the problem stil exists
[05:23] <zul> blah
[05:26] <zul> BenC: should we update ndiswrapper to 1.2 atleast?
[05:27] <{Seb}> Yes!
[07:07] <jbailey> When I move mount a filesystem, anything mounted underneath that should be handled correctly, right?
[07:07] <mxpxpod> zul: ping
[07:18] <zul> pong
[07:18] <zul> jbailey: like what?
[07:19] <mxpxpod> zul: have you checked out my bug on the kernel regarding wlan-ng?
[07:20] <zul> unpong
[07:20] <zul> in meeting at work
[07:20] <mxpxpod> haha
[08:11] <zul> back..
[08:11] <zul> oh..