\sh | nice | 12:06 |
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jblack | in bazaar 2.0, a new directory is also ignored until added (but bzr add dirname/ adds everything recursively) | 12:07 |
lathiat_ | jblack: can you override that behavior? (its not always desired) | 12:07 |
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jblack | There's been recent talk to allow for just that. :) | 12:07 |
lathiat_ | jblack: cool | 12:07 |
lathiat_ | jblack: because take for example autotools | 12:08 |
lathiat_ | i dont want my Makefile in there | 12:08 |
lathiat_ | if i already generated it | 12:08 |
jblack | Oh, I think the current case is ideal then. | 12:08 |
\sh | ignores | 12:08 |
jblack | bzr add dir; baz remove Makefile | 12:08 |
lathiat_ | well you could do that | 12:08 |
lathiat_ | i suppose both should be supported | 12:08 |
jblack | We're grown up professionals. We can think in set notation. :) | 12:08 |
lathiat_ | because | 12:08 |
ajmitch | also use .bzrignore | 12:09 |
lathiat_ | depending on whether the dir has lots to be included | 12:09 |
lathiat_ | or lots to be ignored | 12:09 |
lathiat_ | 1 would be faster than the other | 12:09 |
jblack | Yeah. So I think all three methods for that particular problem will be supported. | 12:09 |
ajmitch | the bazaar-ng mailing list is also fairly active | 12:09 |
jblack | Martin is the final judge, jury and executioner though.. | 12:09 |
lathiat_ | I'll bribe him | 12:09 |
jblack | Oh, not necessary. | 12:10 |
lathiat_ | hehe jk :) | 12:10 |
ajmitch | what beer does he like? | 12:10 |
lathiat_ | i really need to get daniels that case i owe him | 12:10 |
lathiat_ | wonder if any stores deliver | 12:10 |
jblack | Unlike a certain Lom Tord, he handles logical arguments very well and can be persuaded if you give him reasoning that exeeds his. | 12:10 |
\sh | jblack: So I can poke you for some services for some ubuntu volunteer development projects? it looks like that I have to use baz or bzr depends for a project latest after breezy release | 12:10 |
ajmitch | lathiat_: I think mpool might be in sydney | 12:10 |
jblack | \sh: Heh. I'm *asking* you to. | 12:10 |
jblack | My primary focus is to assist projects in moving to bazaar. :) | 12:11 |
lathiat_ | ajmitch: canberra | 12:11 |
siretart | jblack: what helper scripts/frontends to baz would you recommend to package maintainers? | 12:11 |
ajmitch | jblack: great, so that's why you've been helping madduck along :) | 12:11 |
ajmitch | lathiat_: ah yes | 12:11 |
jblack | Of course, projects (at least small ones), don't change their minds, make decisions, or migrate... people do. | 12:11 |
ajmitch | too many australians in #bzr | 12:11 |
siretart | ajmitch: lol | 12:12 |
jblack | ajmitch: Exactly. I'd like to work with 3-4 people like madduck a day (3 new, 1 from the day prior) | 12:12 |
ajmitch | jblack: I'm also in the pkg-zope team, so his findings are always interesting | 12:13 |
jblack | definitely cool. | 12:13 |
\sh | bah..I had a strange dream now | 12:13 |
ajmitch | \sh: what post-breezy projects do you have in mind? | 12:14 |
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\sh | world domination of ubuntu linux / VCS systems / and all software under one roof ,-) | 12:14 |
\sh | ajmitch: shtoomvoip...i need to set up our own repos | 12:14 |
lathiat_ | heh | 12:14 |
jblack | Oh, I almost forgot to mention. You guys want to help me help others, because its going to eventually make your jobs a *LOT* easier. | 12:14 |
lathiat_ | \sh: fix i810 alsa on shtoom | 12:14 |
lathiat_ | \sh: 2 secs audio delay in the internal audio handling is the suck | 12:14 |
\sh | lathiat_: alsa is a problem...use oss instead ,-) | 12:15 |
ajmitch | \sh: rock on :) | 12:15 |
lathiat_ | \sh: bah i was told the other way around | 12:15 |
jblack | Oh, and if you bring me people I can convert, I'll buy you beer (thats not a bribe, thats appreciation) :) | 12:15 |
ajmitch | jblack: I probably already owe you a beer or three | 12:15 |
lathiat_ | jblack: will you fly to australia to give it to me? :) | 12:15 |
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ajmitch | lathiat_: nah, you need to fly to UBZ | 12:15 |
lathiat_ | who'l pay for it? ;p | 12:15 |
jblack | lathiat: Anything is possible. I've already been to australia in the last 6 months, and might go again some other time. | 12:16 |
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ajmitch | you might get sponsored, see the wiki | 12:16 |
\sh | hmmm.... | 12:16 |
lathiat_ | ajmitch: ooooohhhh, where? | 12:16 |
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ajmitch | UbuntuBelowZero, of course :) | 12:16 |
\sh | Gentoo with a bazaar repository instead of cvs/svn *lol* | 12:16 |
lathiat_ | im a sucker for making people pay for me to go places | 12:16 |
lathiat_ | ajmitch: oh i mean where on the wiki ;p | 12:16 |
lathiat_ | i got lca04 and 05 to pay for me *G* | 12:16 |
jblack | So, anything else for me, guys? | 12:17 |
lathiat_ | jblack: rock on! | 12:17 |
ajmitch | lathiat_: uh, that is the wiki page :) | 12:17 |
jblack | Other than me telling you guys thanks for doing such an incredible job? :) | 12:17 |
ajmitch | jblack: no, I'll be sure to bug you as I do | 12:17 |
lathiat_ | ajmitch: i dont see any info | 12:17 |
\sh | jblack: thx :) I will see what I can do to hype some known devs to switch to baz/bzr... | 12:17 |
lathiat_ | oh | 12:17 |
lathiat_ | found it | 12:17 |
ajmitch | heh | 12:17 |
jblack | \sh: You're welcome to! Don't forget that I'm here, and that if you come up with somebody that you don't feel like converting, I'm ready to jump in with both feet. | 12:18 |
\sh | jblack: well...i'm capricorn u know..and I play and test first, before I sell some chocolate cakes to the masses :) | 12:19 |
ajmitch | it'd be nicer if savannah & SF supported arch | 12:19 |
jblack | They already do, indirectly. :) | 12:19 |
ajmitch | savannah doesn't, afaik | 12:19 |
jblack | I can't let any secrets out too soon, but I wouldn't worry about savannah and SF supporting arch. :) | 12:19 |
ajmitch | good | 12:20 |
jblack | (don't try and read that between the lines, becuase you'll certainly guess wrong) | 12:20 |
\sh | hmmm... | 12:20 |
ajmitch | I'll just ask directly then :) | 12:20 |
lathiat_ | haha | 12:20 |
\sh | i just read: mark bought SF.net ,-) | 12:20 |
jblack | Think.. launchpad.. bazaar... hct... | 12:20 |
lathiat_ | jblack: what about above the lines? | 12:20 |
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ajmitch | ok, I see savannah says they'll support GNU Arch via SFTP soon | 12:21 |
jblack | \sh: Oh, not that I've heard of. | 12:21 |
lathiat_ | lol | 12:21 |
ajmitch | 'ready within a week', posted 2 weeks ago | 12:21 |
\sh | jblack: just joking :) | 12:21 |
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jblack | I mean more along the lines of: Will SF and savannah matter a year from now... | 12:21 |
ajmitch | yes | 12:21 |
\sh | jblack: but I could imagine, that the combination of all system there are on launchpad already could make a good replacement for sf.net/savannah | 12:21 |
ajmitch | I'd say they will | 12:21 |
ajmitch | for the same reasons of inertia that people stick with cvs/svn | 12:22 |
jblack | ajmitch: Well, I'm a leo. That means I'm stubborn and am accustomed to getting people over to my way of thinking. :) | 12:22 |
ajmitch | and that launchpad is not (yet) free software | 12:23 |
jblack | So give me the cvs guys.. and I'll do my best to help them see the light and migrate across. | 12:23 |
\sh | and well...yeah...in 4h i have to wake up, will have a shower, and will walk to the office | 12:23 |
ajmitch | jblack: sure, I have a project I'd like converted :) | 12:23 |
\sh | so..gentlemen..I will leave now... | 12:24 |
sistpoty | gn8 \sh | 12:24 |
jblack | \sh: No problem. Don't shower and still go to the office. THen go into the boss' office and discuss the idea of telecommuting. :) | 12:24 |
ajmitch | night \sh | 12:24 |
siretart | gn8 \sh | 12:24 |
\sh | jblack: thanks again for giving us a short overview of bazaar 1.x/2.x I would like to talk to you later, how I can accomplish some tasks with it..:) | 12:24 |
\sh | jblack: btw..how old is your child? :) | 12:25 |
jblack | Ok guys. I'm off to dinner. Please don't stop making the distro that lives on my machines. :) | 12:25 |
ajmitch | see you later, jblack | 12:25 |
jblack | She is 11 and her name is Laura. You can see pictures of her at http://gallery.linuxguru.net | 12:25 |
\sh | jblack: nice my son is 11 as well :) | 12:26 |
sistpoty | cya jblack | 12:26 |
jblack | Keep him away from my daughter until she turns 18. :) | 12:26 |
jblack | (that was meant to be funny) | 12:27 |
lathiat_ | haha | 12:27 |
\sh | jblack: hehe....:) he is a womanizer...half indian | 12:27 |
jblack | THen its not meant to be funny. :) | 12:27 |
\sh | (but he doesn't realize the fact) | 12:28 |
\sh | all girls in his primary school were stucked on him ;) | 12:28 |
\sh | http://shermann.blogweb.de/uploads/AUT_0250.JPG | 12:29 |
\sh | this is him :) | 12:29 |
jblack | She says he's cute. | 12:30 |
jblack | I told her that she's not allowed to meet him for another 7 years. | 12:30 |
\sh | hahaha | 12:30 |
lathiat_ | haha | 12:30 |
jblack | whoops. 18:30. Hope to hear from you guys soon. :) | 12:31 |
\sh | jblack: see u around :) | 12:31 |
jblack | btw, where do you guys normally meet, so that I can stalk you down? | 12:31 |
jblack | meet/hang out | 12:31 |
\sh | jblack: ubuntu-motu/-devel | 12:31 |
jblack | Ok. I'm there. :) | 12:32 |
\sh | jblack: jabber is also good sh@linux-server.org <- my jabber id | 12:32 |
jblack | I typically don't run im clients. The away status thing makes me feel watched. | 12:33 |
lathiat_ | jblack: turn off auto-away :) | 12:34 |
lathiat_ | or set yourself permanantly away ;p | 12:34 |
\sh | jblack: well...I'm installing tomorrow a jabber client on my cell that's why,-) | 12:34 |
jblack | I've tried that. kopete is borked. | 12:35 |
\sh | jblack: psi or on gnome: gajim | 12:35 |
lathiat_ | tahts because your one of those kde users | 12:35 |
lathiat_ | gajim is good | 12:35 |
\sh | lathiat_: tststs | 12:36 |
jblack | Yeah. I was the first ubuntu kde user. | 12:36 |
\sh | jblack: for jabber: use psi | 12:36 |
\sh | nothing else | 12:36 |
\sh | for gnome: gajim | 12:36 |
jblack | Tried psi. there was something about it that I didn't like | 12:36 |
\sh | then w8 for kajim ,-) | 12:36 |
lathiat_ | haha | 12:36 |
\sh | lathiat_: no joke...I will do it | 12:37 |
\sh | kde jabber client in python | 12:37 |
lathiat_ | why not like | 12:37 |
lathiat_ | just use gajim | 12:37 |
jblack | I'd rather a virtual irc interface. ;) | 12:37 |
lathiat_ | jblack: bitlbee | 12:37 |
lathiat_ | jblack: does that | 12:37 |
lathiat_ | does for msn and icq too | 12:37 |
jblack | man, free software is awesome. | 12:38 |
lathiat | yeh | 12:38 |
lathiat | tis isnt it | 12:38 |
\sh | anyways...sleeping now...thx guys :) | 12:38 |
lathiat | bah sleep | 12:38 |
lathiat | is for the weak | 12:38 |
\sh | lathiat: wrapup at the end of the week? | 12:38 |
lathiat | \sh: hm? | 12:39 |
\sh | motu meeting | 12:39 |
\sh | anyways...need to go...cu later today | 12:40 |
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dholbach | hey | 10:55 |
dholbach | does anybody know who else (apart from ogra) is an adminstrator for the launchpad motu group? | 10:55 |
dholbach | oops | 10:55 |
Mithrandir | ECHAN? :-) | 10:56 |
lathiat | haha | 10:56 |
dholbach | yep :) | 10:56 |
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dholbach | ECOFFEE as well :) | 10:56 |
\sh | dholbach: anybody? | 10:56 |
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