[12:24] so gtk 2.8 does some really funky stuff on our windows X clients [12:25] the text is all yellow and stuff [12:26] sounds weird [12:26] yeah the x server blows [12:26] i installed xming and it works great over ssh [12:26] but it doesnt allow direct connections [12:27] need to fish xhost exe out of a full cygwin install [12:27] and run that [12:27] will test it tommorow. [12:27] hm... i had a strange color problem with xosview... and solved that by installing xrgb [12:27] just installing it? [12:27] yep [12:27] um [12:28] ok.. [12:28] the x color definitions are in there... but i dunno if gtk2.8 uses these [12:28] ill mail myself about that [12:28] hehe [12:29] last colour issues I had was with NX on OSX [12:29] everything was tinted off-colour, like it was an endian issue [12:29] oh man [12:29] there used to be an endian issue in openbox [12:29] the screenshots were horrific [12:29] it was like looking at your desktop through yellow cellophane [12:30] the background was ok [12:30] but there was yellow ghosting around the text [12:30] turning off AA made the text blue [12:30] yeah, that sounds about right [12:30] hm [12:30] well i am throwing out "X Manager" [12:30] its crap on many levels [12:30] xming is a real xorg on win32 [12:31] and it has a "just works" install === tseng gives metacity the boot [12:31] is mono in backports at the moment? [12:31] maybe pieces [12:31] i stopped hearing about it [12:31] someone asking about installing f-spot on ubuntu in #f-spot, gimpnet === jblack [i=jblack@static-209-158-45-74.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] not like i have time now anyway [12:32] welcome, jblack [12:32] the joke at work is they have to cancel my contract and extend me a real job so i can work more than 40 hours [12:32] jblack: hi! [12:32] jblack: i had a question for you. [12:32] hiiii jblack :) [12:32] The capital of australia is sydney? [12:32] canberra [12:32] its Canberra [12:33] Then I hope you were about to ask a different question. :) [12:33] yes [12:33] are you mirroring all of gnome cvs? [12:33] i could use a specific module [12:33] All is a big word. [12:33] Which project are you looking for? I can look it up for you [12:33] muine === ajmitch sighs & gets back to svn for pkg-mono === Nafallo [n=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:34] jblack: you should convert meebey to the way of bazaar [12:34] ajmitch: jose is going to do his stuff in baz [12:34] beagle n' pals [12:34] he doesn't see the advantage of bazaar over svn-buildpackage [12:34] yep, that's good [12:35] well, he doesnt care about ubuntu [12:35] eh [12:35] ajmitch: Sure, I'd be happy to try. Would you be willing to introduce me to him? [12:35] he doesnt go out of his way for ubuntu [12:35] he likes us and all that [12:35] i cant blame him [12:35] tseng: no surprise there, but he's not hostile to us [12:35] like some DDs [12:35] <\sh> ok... [12:35] he and I get along pretty well [12:35] jblack: I can try, when I see him around [12:35] Ok. sounds like a plan, ajmitch. :) [12:35] tseng: does he have arch repos for his stuff yet? [12:36] s/arch/baz/ [12:36] jose? [12:36] yeah [12:36] ive not heard from him in a bit [12:36] no baz stuff in http://people.debian.org/~jsogo/ yet [12:36] I might put my stuff on p.d.o as well [12:36] jblack: is it much trouble to add muine if you dont have it? [12:37] siretart, what keyring server do we use? [12:37] jtan325: they are all syncing, so it should not matter [12:37] subkeys.pgp.net works, I think [12:37] Sure, I can try. If you like, I can walk you through making an importable product? [12:37] not all keyservers are equal [12:37] ok [12:37] (if not, then tell me where I can get information about it) [12:38] well, just the one for uploaders keyring is fine for me [12:38] jblack: please do the walk through :) [12:38] as I'd like a couple of projects using cvs & svn imported [12:39] jblack: btw, is there a newer cscvs available? [12:39] Ok. Can we do it in about... 80 minutes give or take? [12:39] ajmitch: With imports, you don't need to scrwe with cscvs at all. [12:39] jblack: how about local conversions? [12:39] With the appropriate information in launchpad, you just branch from the archive when its ready. [12:40] ajmitch: That's a point. [12:40] ok.. [12:40] <\sh> g'night guys :) === ajmitch will be awol in 80 minutes [12:40] night \sh [12:40] As far as I know, nobody is currently working on the released version of cscvs [12:40] gn8 \sh :) [12:40] Sleep well \sh. [12:40] I heard that there was a canonical branch of it floating around [12:41] Yeah, there's an internal one. [12:41] siretart, i uploaded to keyserver subkeys.pgp.net [12:41] my pub ID is 7CEE8CEF [12:42] is that all? [12:43] jtan325: ok, I added you [12:44] thanks [12:44] so now i can upload to revu, right? [12:48] jtan325: jupp [12:48] (sorry, /me very tired right now) [12:48] wth is that new evolution icon [12:48] ugh, bad 80s music on the radio [12:48] haha [12:49] you guys get the USA worst of [12:49] its funny. [12:51] siretart, /me pulled an all-nighter getting this packaging to work :-) [12:51] so don't worry about being tired, i won't notice [12:55] gn8 everybody [12:55] night sistpoty [12:57] good night everybody === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200217114071.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macgyver2 [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] gn8 [01:03] night siretart [01:03] new kismet on the way. I'll take the debian one and add our changes again. fixes two CANS ;-) === ogra [n=ogra@p5089D431.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] jblack: sorry, was that for me about information? [01:19] Lost track. sorry [01:19] me too [01:20] tseng: all mono is getting demoted to universe now? [01:20] ajmitch: all? [01:20] ajmitch: i didnt think so. [01:20] but i would not object [01:21] I saw gtk# would be (from what I read in #u-d) [01:22] so I was wondering if it all would [01:22] jblack: i was asking about importing muine from gnome cvs, i guess you asked for more info as i faded out === ajmitch should apply for main upload rights sometime [01:22] you should. [01:25] I'll see when the next TB meeting is then [01:25] we just had one [01:25] 2 weeks [01:25] I know [01:25] time of day is more important [01:25] oh [01:25] in case it's 4am [01:25] of course [01:26] ah, 7sep, 8AM local time [01:27] n8 all === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sean_ [n=sean@d209-107-101-94.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Read] === ogra [n=ogra@p5089EE1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRe [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] erm its 4am my time [02:01] :( [02:01] which files should I upload to REVU? [02:04] bugger it I'm heading to work :P === trulux [n=lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable117.227-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macgyver2 [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089EB04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb-away [n=bradb@modemcable230.58-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:19] umm yeah, I shouldn't have dist-upgraded. === bradb-aw1y [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sjg [n=jason@adsl-67-121-233-227.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb-away [n=bradb@modemcable230.58-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb-aw1y [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |QuaD- [n=QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] <|QuaD-> blah: x still not working for me === xhaker is away (Away, bnc logging) === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sean_ [n=sean@d209-107-101-94.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] ./configure +cc=gcc `dpkg --print-gnu-build-architecture` [03:36] dpkg: unknown option --print-gnu-build-architecture [03:36] bad m2c === |QuaD- [n=QuaD@pcp0011386062pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089C911.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JRee [n=Bond@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-096-236.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sean_ [n=sean@d209-107-101-94.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] hi, another n00b question. i'm packaging a small program, getting it ready for upload to revu [04:46] want to get as much right as i can [04:46] i've gotten the packaging itself to fully work [04:46] but i'm having trouble figuring the version names [04:47] version names? [04:47] according to DeveloperResources, since this package isn't in debian yet, it should have "-0ubuntu1" as the revision [04:47] the programs called conky [04:47] and the release version is 1.3.0 [04:47] so [04:48] yes.. so 1.3.0-0ubuntu1 [04:48] let's say "make dist" produces conky-1.3.0-0ubuntu1.tar.gz [04:48] make dist should not do that [04:48] ok [04:48] it should do conky-1.3.0.tar.gz? [04:48] yes [04:48] i hacked it to do it with the ubuntu [04:48] because dh_make [04:48] which you rename to conky_1.3.0.orig.tar.gz [04:48] ... [04:49] and you shouldn't need to make a tarball at all, if upstream supplies one [04:50] ah. i'm on the dev team for conky, we're planning a release soon [04:50] ok [04:50] so i'm trying to get this process down from cvs update to packaging [04:50] hence the make dist [04:50] ok ok [04:50] then use the release tarball, rename it, make your debs [04:50] rename to conky_1.3.0.orig.tar.gz? [04:50] and then untar it? [04:50] yes [04:51] go into the dir, and dh_make and all that jazz then? [04:51] and then put your debian dir in [04:51] right that's another thing [04:51] when you go to build, it will then make a diff.gz [04:51] i get the feeling i don't need to do dh_make everytime [04:51] i've already got my debian/ ready [04:51] no, you definitely do not want to use dh_make everytime [04:51] ok ok man that was a waste of time haha [04:52] I don't think I've used dh_make for 3 years or more [04:52] haha. ok but then when does the -0ubuntu1 come in? [04:55] debian/changelog [04:55] oh... [04:56] conky (1.3.0-1) unstable; urgency=low * Initial Release. [04:56] change that [04:56] just the first line right? [04:56] and make it breezy, not unstable [04:56] between the ( ) [04:57] is like 5 lines of pasting ok? [04:57] (in this channel) [04:57] wait nm [04:57] conky (1.3.0-1) unstable; urgency=low [04:57] * Initial Release. [04:58] whoops [04:58] conky (1.3.0-0ubuntu1) breezy; urgency=low [04:58] and then debuild or dpkg-buildpackage will do the right version? [05:00] and that's really all that needs to be done to produce the right version? [05:00] yes [05:01] ok. one last question. after reading the wikis [05:01] i am getting the impression that if i submit this package and it reviews pass, then i must become a MOTU for it? [05:01] i.e. have to do the membership app process.... [05:02] no, you don't have to be === Seveaz [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] it would help, but it's not required [05:03] once the package passes approval, one of us would upload it [05:03] well i am willling to maintain the package [05:03] but i can't really devote the time to other packages, like MOTUs do [05:03] we'd just have to review updates to the package as well before uploading them === ajmitch understands :) [05:04] it's a challenge for me to fit in time for my own packaging [05:04] haha [05:04] ok [05:04] so there won't be an official motu for conky if it gets in [05:05] there aren't official maintainers for most packages [05:05] ok ok [05:05] except that in debian packages are owned by someone [05:05] which you could do as well [05:05] yeah i am planning to do a debian submission too [05:05] our team's decided to do a release probably this weekend [05:05] and so once that comes around [05:06] i'll do the packaging and submit to both ubuntu/debian [05:06] asking for someone else to maintain in debian, or just finding a sponsor? [05:06] sponsor [05:06] i can maintain [05:06] ok [05:06] just this one package though [05:06] so it'll be easier to get it sponsored in debian, and ubuntu can sync from there [05:07] we like to have packages that we add into universe submitted to debian :) [05:07] haha makes sense [05:07] ok [05:07] so it'd be better to just submit it to debian [05:07] and not worry about ubuntu right now [05:08] ? [05:08] in debian you'll need to find a sponsor :) [05:08] you can put it up for review here, it's just that we have limited time & lots to do [05:09] of course [05:09] ok ok [05:09] cool. i am going to go write a few scripts then :-) [05:09] thanks for your help [05:09] i'll be back for sure [05:10] luckily I had a consistent sponsor for my packages in debian [05:11] would you mind paraphrasing how to get a sponsor? [05:11] just show up in #debian and saying "sponsor please" probably wouldn't work :-) [05:11] certainly not [05:12] the debian-mentors list is a good place to start [05:12] and the new http://sponsors.debian.net/ [05:13] ok cool [05:13] thanks ajmitch i really appreciate it === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200217088248.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] no problem [05:14] i've probably accounted for half the questions asked on this channel the past few days [05:14] i'm sure you noticed [05:14] but i'm finally growing my own motu wings, if such a thing exists [05:14] there have been plenty of questions from others, don't worry :) === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-104-117-72.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMo_ [n=slomo@p5487FFE5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-82-21.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-104-117-72.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:49] ajmitch, so for debian, it'd just be conky-1.3.0-1 right? [05:51] conky_1.3.0-1, yes === tritium [n=rimbert@mip-lab4.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:54] hello [05:54] ajmitch, lintian complains [05:54] E: conky_1.3.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file breezy [05:54] that kind of makes sense though, right? [05:57] yes, that's because lintian doesn't know about breezy as it should [05:57] cool. and "W: conky source: native-package-with-dash-version" [05:59] was it the manual renaming to conky_1.3.0.orig.tar.gz ? [05:59] and is it ok like this? [06:01] oh whoops [06:02] my build script was doing it with the dash [06:02] good to know that lintian still works :-) === tritium [n=Michael@67-42-207-145.albq.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-104-117-72.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] hi all! I am trying to work on building a .deb. I have been following http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch but I'm not sure if I need to do pbuilder inside of chroot or not [06:45] any suggestions? === aisipos [n=aisipos@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:57] pbuilder makes its own chroot [06:57] @LaserJock [06:59] ok, so i don't need to do DebootstrapChroot? That is what was confusing me [07:01] you use one or the other [07:01] but not both [07:01] pbuilder is really good at finding dependencies [07:01] a manual chroot is good for fixing packages [07:01] I use both, for different things [07:01] but never both at once [07:02] hmm, so maybe http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch needs to be updated or something? [07:03] so if I just want to be able to make a .deb for like 1 package, should I use pbuilder? [07:11] <\sh> morning [07:12] morning \sh [07:13] <\sh> morning :) [07:13] <\sh> gna...restarted our nagravision clusters [07:13] <\sh> and all this taks bloody one hour [07:13] gah, it feels like http has been throttled to ~2K/sec here :( === ajmitch can hardly connect to any website [07:17] hmm, and suddenly all is well.. [07:27] so, would you guys recommend using pbuilder to build a .deb for only 1 or 2 packages? [07:27] <\sh> yes === ogra [n=ogra@p5089C911.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] I am looking at trying to build the newest version of Scigraphica [07:35] but the developer has split the package into to seperate .tgz files scigraphica and libscigraphica [07:36] so do I need to build 2 seperate .deb's or should it be put together into 1 === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@adsl-69-104-117-72.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a206.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-010.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kagou [n=kagou@84.4.155.26] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] hi [08:53] ajmitch, have you some news about syncing gimp-ufraw ? [09:00] morning [09:03] re === jtan325 [n=jtan325@D-128-208-151-97.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@D-128-208-151-97.dhcp4.washington.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:23] siretart, should londonlaw now not look at a gtk2 app now? === pef [n=pef@dyn-83-157-223-144.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:35] morning === siretart looks [09:38] siretart, the spacing is better, but the theming isn't there [09:38] Burgundavia: err, you are right.. strange [09:40] I haven't tested any other wxwidgets apps to see if they are the same === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-113-137.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === colinl [n=colin@LAubervilliers-151-13-63-69.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] woooohoo! [10:42] my libXp seems to work! :) === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === niran [n=niran@cpe-67-10-213-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A6672C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] hey [10:56] huhu dholbach [10:56] does anybody know who else (apart from ogra) is an adminstrator for the launchpad motu group? [10:56] hey reinhard :) === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:57] could somebody tell him to set universe-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com as the mail adress? [10:57] we have a new mailling list? [10:57] :) [10:57] yep [10:57] :) [10:57] <\sh> woooot [10:57] after long struggles [10:57] <\sh> congrats [10:58] <\sh> grmpf [10:58] <\sh> where is mez when I need him ,-) === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A6672C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:00] re [11:01] <\sh> re dholbach :) [11:02] <\sh> u were surprised yesterday evening when I phoned you ;) [11:02] \sh: did it sound like it? [11:02] good morning :) [11:02] hey slomo [11:02] <\sh> dholbach: yeah..a bit [11:03] \sh: hm, i just didnt know the number, but it was absolutely ok :) [11:03] hi dholbach, et al :) [11:03] I have now packaged libxp [11:04] <\sh> we have windows xp as package? ,-) [11:04] is pbuilder the best/easiest way to test a package installation? i.e. dependencies and stuff? [11:04] the I have taken the debian/dir from daniels librandr package [11:04] jtan325 yes [11:04] but it is not that nice, i.e. not lintian clean and stuff [11:04] hey all [11:04] do I get an exception for that package? [11:04] thx dholbach === ajmitch doesn't use pbuilder for checking depends, only build-depends [11:04] I'd like to stay close to the other X11 packages [11:04] ajmitch, i'd like to test both [11:05] \sh: libXp is Xprint, an obsoleted packages which should better not be used anymore [11:05] i'm thinking about doing this bootstrap thing [11:05] but probably for breezy though [11:05] \sh: but java applets need them, and you know which appletviewers and browserplugins are available [11:05] siretart: did you talk to daniels about it? [11:05] dholbach: he told me to package it because he doesn't think its necessary [11:06] dholbach: it will definitly stay in universe [11:06] siretart: if it's urgent we of course do an exception [11:06] dholbach: j2re was uploaded today to universe [11:06] dholbach: I tried the java plugin, but booom. exception because of no libXp [11:06] siretart: ??? WHAT ??? J2RE? UNIVERSE? [11:06] dholbach: do I take this exception that I may upload this without going via revu? ;) [11:07] dholbach: yes, look in breezy :) [11:07] dholbach: j2re is in multiverse not universe [11:07] i'm in breezy [11:07] hm [11:07] dholbach: bit libxp should go to universe, since it's nothing wrong with its license [11:07] dholbach: thats the blackdown packages, doko uploaded them [11:07] if you're confident in it, upload it [11:08] technically it WAS in ubuntu before :) [11:08] okay! :) [11:08] we need gcj to be in better shape (and classpath) :) [11:08] and if other stuff is broken, go for it [11:08] we can fix it later anyway [11:08] <\sh> dholbach: how can we get without trouble apt-get.org in it, after all transitions === desplesda [n=desplesd@145.242.132.203.in-addr.wholesaledsl.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] ajmitch: can i grab that automagic script [11:08] \sh: i will keep an eye on apt-get.org - i absolutely understand that it doesn't seem "sexy" to people :) [11:09] dholbach: and another thing: yesterday, at the meeting, we had a proposal of requiring only 2 instead of 3 motus for new packages [11:09] lathiat: it has plenty of evil in it [11:09] ajmitch: i like evil [11:09] dholbach: rationale: apt-get.org packages shortcircuit it with only requiring 1 motu [11:09] siretart: in my opinion that's the wrong rationale, but it's ok with me :) [11:09] dholbach: there were no objection, but neither ogra nor you where there [11:09] ajmitch: i was considering trying to rebuild the entire unmet dep list and see what happens ;p [11:10] oh [11:10] lathiat: I've done that [11:10] ogra wasnt there? [11:10] ajmitch: oh ok [11:10] ogra had dsl problems [11:10] ajmitch: results? [11:10] dholbach: DSL issues [11:10] ah i see [11:10] lathiat: plenty of crack [11:10] <\sh> dholbach: no...he had dsl issues...he called me [11:10] ajmitch: in that case, just the ones i care about atm :) (dps1, gmp3) [11:10] <\sh> dholbach: and I wanted to postpone apt-get.org but he put a veto on it [11:10] \sh: it's a breezy goal [11:10] dholbach: and the next thing: if a motu packages something, does he count? ;) [11:10] siretart: no :) [11:10] <\sh> dholbach: i know... [11:10] hehe. ok :) [11:11] dholbach: it's just that we have 2 standards of QA with REVU & apt-get.org [11:11] dholbach: btw, I setup a trac yesterday for revu2: http://siretart.tauware.de/revu2-trac/ - [11:12] dholbach: if you happen to meet someone interested in development of revu, point him there [11:12] thanks in advance [11:12] siretart: super - will do :) [11:12] ajmitch: for me REVU and 2/3 votes is not just QA, it's mentoring/teaching as well [11:13] ajmitch: but i see your point [11:13] yes, thats right. but for now, our backlog is way too high. we need to concentrate on other stuff [11:13] for hard goals we need to bend the rules though - there are quite a lot of other packages that went into universe just like that [11:13] does anyone know if xvidcap is going to be included? Also can someone point me to a list of what needs to be packaged? [11:14] dholbach: btw: you have 2 entries on revu ready for upload. will you upload yourself or should anyone else do it? [11:14] StrikeForce: UniverseCandidates on the wiki are user requests [11:14] kk [11:14] siretart: i did it yesterday [11:14] great! :) [11:14] is that what you want me to work towards dholbach ? [11:14] or look at helping out in dholbach ? [11:14] siretart: i needed to get my laptop on ubuntu :) [11:14] StrikeForce: MOTUTodo has a full list of our goals and plans [11:14] dholbach: not quite full [11:15] dholbach: thanks [11:15] unless lathiat has updated it after the meeting :) [11:15] ok people, i'll get back to you again, but now i need to get back on work === ogra [n=ogra@A29dc.a.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] hey ogra [11:15] ajmitch, you going to be busy in the next five mins [11:15]