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Seveassure lilldude but I don;t know what the debian cds look like...12:00
alllanoni used to support those.12:00
jyehbut I'm having trouble installing the wireless card12:00
Seveas!wifi12:00
ubotuhmm... wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto12:00
lilldudethere are 14 of em to check12:00
Seveas^-- Jhair12:00
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Seveasjhey*12:00
jyehyeah I found the wifi card12:00
jyehit's a realtek12:00
dalamaralllanon, yeah I know not great thats why I asked if it was a bad burner ;/ though dma worked in win, which isnt saying much heh12:00
jyehtried the realtek linux driver12:00
jyehdidn't work12:00
jyehtried the ndiswrapper12:00
jyehdidint' work12:01
lilldudeil go  figure it it out i guess12:01
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alllanondalamar: if it worked in win, it should work in linux too :\12:01
lilldudesome should  no in debian or another spot12:01
lilldudethanks12:01
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dalamaralllanon, yeah thats what I thought was strange, I'm really clueless ;/ its still usable, all I use it for is burning but it literally goes at 2x without dma heh12:01
sponge008When I try to run "ndiswrapper" the terminal flashes and disappears12:01
sponge008any ideas?12:01
jyehfind another opensource driver for the realtek card12:01
jyehbut I'm having trouble compiling it.12:02
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LeverIs ubuntuforums.org down?12:02
derFlojyeh: tried driverloader?12:02
jyehyeah, I think ubuntuforums.org is down12:02
FiRezLever yes12:02
LeverBah, humbug.12:02
alllanondalamar: you know what motherboard you have?12:02
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jyehwhat is driverloader?12:03
jyehis it already installed on base ubuntu installation?12:03
Seveasndiswrapper lookalike :)12:03
Seveasand it costs money afaik12:03
alllanondalamar: oh, try to tail the syslog in one terminal, and switch to dma in another. maybe you get some output before it locks up.12:04
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dalamaralllanon, sure, just got it recently, its a gigabyte 7vt600p-rz12:04
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jyehndiswrapper seemed to work12:04
codecaineSeveas, i tried googling CAPAB IDENTIFY-MSG to find out info on it, nothing came up, could you help out?12:04
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jyehbut when I iwconfig12:04
DekaPinkHuh... Know how the screen is brown after you log in? How do I change that?12:04
jyehit says "no wirless extensions"12:05
Digiis ubuntuforums.org down?12:05
jyehyeah forums is down12:05
vonMiffentropAm I doing something wrong, or is sun-j2re1.5 removed from all repositories? I've followed the guide on http://www.ubuntuguide.org, but I just get "E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5" (yes, I've done apt-get update)12:05
jyehbtw, anyone know what sit0 is?  what kind of interface is that?12:05
P8ntKidHow do i install WINE with ubuntu?12:05
escI got ndiswrapper [finally]  working last night12:05
JowiDekaPink: sudo gdmconfig, standard greeter. there is a background colour option12:05
juanejhow do i replace nautilius with rox-filer???12:05
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Seveascodecaine, ehm, give me some context please...12:06
Digidekapink- right click on the desktop and say change desktop12:06
kemik!wine12:06
derFlowhy does apt-get say, it can't check some packages? does it has something to do with the gnupg keys?12:06
codecaineSeveas, under why register my nick for freenode FAQ's12:06
Jowijuanej: no need to replace it. just use rox instead. why do you need to replace it?12:06
alllanondalamar: also, you can try using the -x switch to select WHICH dma mode you want.12:06
derFloI can install them , it's a warning12:06
juanejJowi, im moving to xfce12:07
kemikSeveas:  the default for uboto is to PM noW ?12:07
alllanondalamar: i saw a guy who had to set it manually with -t1 -x69 to avoid freeze.12:07
juanejand i like rox-file to draw desktop icons12:07
P8ntKidkemik, The ubuntu forums are down for me...12:07
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DekaPinkJowi: Thanks. :D12:07
codecaineAnyone in here use x-chat?12:07
escvonMifferntrop - some of the repos seem to be broken - I had to install java last night & it didnt work (same story as you). someone gave me the correct url to wget12:07
decafcodecaine: too many people12:07
kemikP8ntKid:  wait for them to come online then perhaps ;)12:07
derFloyes12:07
Jowijuanej: i moved to oroborus. i only use rox myself - love it12:07
codecainedecaf, i'm trying to figure out what the names in the nick list mean when they're greyed out?12:08
Digiesc- you don't have that url anymore :-/ ?12:08
dalamaralllanon, ugh, that -x looks sketchy, I don't want to break it heh12:08
Digitoo many people too many problems12:08
juanejJowi, there is a how to on ubuntuforums but the site is down12:08
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decafcodecaine: they marked themselves away. try "/away"12:08
codecainedecaf, agh they're away ok thx12:08
alllanondalamar: http://axljab.homelinux.org/Hdparm#Xfer_mode_.28PIO.2FSDMA.2FMDMA.2FUDMA.29_-X12:08
Seveascodecaine, dunno about the CAPAB thing12:08
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codecaineSeveas, thx anyways12:08
RockFooCan someone help me install ATI's driver for the radeon cards?12:08
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escdigi - no unfortunately I do not - I had logging turned off12:09
escsomeone else might know12:09
alllanonI think of buying AMD64... just afraid of problems. I would be devastated if Enemy Territory didn't run anymore.12:09
mindmedic!restricted12:09
ubotuit has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:09
codecaineSeveas, did you see what i meant though?12:09
Jowijuanej: ah ok. well, what do you mean by "replace" then? just put a shortcut for rox-filer in xfce. should be the easiest solution....12:09
Seveasyes12:09
alllanon!warez12:09
ubotuI don't know, alllanon12:09
alllanonbummer.12:09
RockFoo!ati12:09
ubotuI heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI12:09
juanejjowi nautilius is the default icon drawer12:10
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juaneji mean, desktop icons are there because of nautilius12:10
RockFooCan anyone help me with an ATI Radeon card install?12:10
RockFooI've tried all the guides I could find12:10
juanejand with apps like conky (torsmo) it doesnt work very well12:10
vonMiffentrophow great.. a lot of people are having the same problem, there is a little-known solution, but the source is offline :( And I need Java by tomorrow12:10
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mindmedicRockFoo, this one too? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI12:10
dalamaralllanon, good link thanks, im going to fiddle awhile which will most likely lock it at some point so thanks for all the help ;)12:11
Jowijuanej: ah if you uninstall nautilus you mean?12:11
RockFooyeah Mindmedic12:11
RockFooI tried that12:11
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codecaine!resolution12:11
alllanondalamar: np12:11
ubotumethinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:11
CookedGryphonvonMiffentrop, you can dl a java self extracting from www.java.com12:11
juanejyes jowi12:11
CookedGryphonand install that rather than go thru the package12:12
mindmedicRockFoo, where did you get stuck, or what is your problem?12:12
SeveasCookedGryphon, don't give crappy advise please12:12
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SeveasvonMiffentrop, java debs can be found at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl12:12
Jowijuanej: haven't thought about that since i just leave nautilus installed even though i never use it. i didn't know they were linked. if you find out how, please let me know. quite interesting12:12
RockFooWell I get the drivers all installed mindmedic but when I switch the ati to fglxr in the driver setting and reboot X won't start up12:12
CookedGryphonoh fine, i'll jsut bugger off then12:12
SeveasRockFoo, you need to change more than that12:12
asfrais there an easy way to connect a computer to the internet throught another when the computers are connected directly with a cabel?12:12
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Seveasasfra, yes12:13
mindmedicthe xorg.conf driver setting?12:13
Seveasinternet connection sharing12:13
RockFooyes12:13
asfraSeveas: sounds good! what is the magic?12:13
mindmedicand does x give you an error message?12:13
hardw1rehas anyone else experienced problems with hl2/css on ubuntu when they compile the latest / any nvidia drivers instead of using the apt packaged versions?12:13
Seveaswindows has such a thing built in somewhere, in ubuntu firestarter can do it12:13
derFloW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn' t be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90 712:13
RockFoosays that a display cannot be found12:13
RockFoosomething along those lines12:13
Seveasand only the pc that is connected directly to the internet should have it setup12:13
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SeveasderFlo, do NOT use marillat with hoary...12:14
alllanonasfra: go to start, control panel, internet connections, select "LAN Connection" (The one used for internet), right-click, properties, Enable ICS.12:14
derFloSeveas: ok12:14
puffthe touchpad is made by synaptics.  There is a rather powerfull driver for them available for xfree/xorg.  Ubuntu comes with it, althoug\h it's in a separate package.  There is also a command-line configuration program, and those configs can be put into XF86Config/xorg.con\f.the touchpad is made by synaptics.  There is a rather powerfull driver for them available for xfree/xorg.  Ubuntu comes with it, althoug\h it's in a separat12:14
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puffe package.  There is also a command-line configuration program, and those configs can be put into XF86Config/xorg.con\f.the touchpad is made by synaptics.  There is a rather powerfull driver for them available for xfree/xorg.  Ubuntu comes with it, althoug\h it's in a separate package.  There is also a command-line configuration program, and those configs can be put into XF86Config/xorg.con\f.the touchpad is made by synaptics.12:14
puffThere is a rather powerfull driver for them available for xfree/xorg.  Ubuntu comes with it, althoug\h it's in a separate package.  There is also a command-line configuration program, and those configs can be put into XF86Config/xorg.con\f.12:14
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codecaineSeveas, think you hurt gryphons feelilngs man12:14
RockFooas soon as I switch it back to ati though in xorg.conf it's ok minus 3d accel12:14
dalamarjeez whats the deal today12:14
asfraalllanon: that didn't sound like gnome :)12:14
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Seveasjeez, what's with all the stupid pasters today...12:15
alllanonasfra: uh, no, that was.. some other OS.12:15
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dalamaralllanon, aha, the drive only supports up to udma2, ie -X66 which I've set it to and am trying to burn a disc now to see if it will work all the way through12:15
alllanonif all the man hours spent by linux users to get ATI cards working instead were used to mowe lawns or showel snow, they would have enough money to buy nvidia and open source their drivers.12:15
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RockFooany ideas mindmedic?12:16
ompaulSeveas, they want to take you to 'ubuntu court' :-)12:16
alllanondalamar: nice, progress :)12:16
Seveasompaul, *g* don't read too much sounder :)12:16
mindmedicRockFoo, you could give the ati config tool a try12:16
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vonMiffentropSeveas: thanks a lot :)12:16
ompaulSeveas, hehehe12:16
dalamaralllanon, yes, thanks ;)12:16
RockFoohow do I use that?12:16
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mindmedici think it was called fglrx_config or something? an ATI user here who can confirm that?12:17
kemikfglrx-config12:17
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mindmedicthx12:17
kemikno12:17
durtbreezy install successful :)12:17
kemikwithout the -12:18
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kemikfglrxconifg12:18
alllanondurt: nice?12:18
codecainedurt, how's it so far?12:18
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durtdont know yet just rebooted12:18
ompaulSeveas, in all honesty I found that very funny when I read it - after all you said three - mak0 the man with four letters who was the third yourself? cos sure as hell it was not your irc buddy :)12:18
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ofer0hi, i want to change my IP in the ethernet. how do i do it?12:18
mindmedicRockFoo, try the fglrxconfig tool.. but back up your old xorg.conf first12:18
kemikofer0:  ifconfig12:19
Seveasompaul, actually, there are 3 or four other people who disliked my actions in here (I banned them for disrupting the atmosphere) and the kept on threatening me12:19
Jowiofer0: if you are connected to a router and get ip from it - you do it in the router settings.12:19
Seveasone of them started annoying #ubuntu-devel12:19
alllanonofer0: you will need a needle, a cigarette lighter to heat it with, and towels. lots of towels.12:19
Seveasanother started annoying other people in the channel12:19
asfraSeveas: did you mean that firestarter can help me connect another computer to the internet? isn't that just a firewall?12:19
ompaulSeveas, how to win friends and influence people12:19
alllanonno, sorry, i thought you ment changing the mac address.12:19
Seveasompaul, *g*12:19
Seveasasfra, firestarter can do that too :)12:20
Jowiofer0: if you have a static ip - try: sudo network-admin12:20
ofer0ok thanx all.12:20
alllanonnp.12:20
Seveasanyway, gotta get some sleep now12:20
asfraSeveas: great, then I've got myself a firewall aswell :)12:20
dalamarSDMA MDMA UDMA, which is fastest? UDMA?12:20
Seveasvya all tomorrow12:20
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Seveascya*12:20
ompaulSeveas, if you ever come to Dublin remind me to buy you your poison12:20
alllanonMDMA is ecstacy. I would go for UDMA.12:20
Jowicu Seveas12:20
escmdma is my favorite12:20
derFloSeve: I can help you with a pasting12:20
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derFloeg: a dpkg -l12:21
asfraSeveas; and only one of the machines needed it? good night by the way :)12:21
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dalamarlol well theres a computer mdma to apparently ;)12:21
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alllanonwell, afaik, udma is the fastest.12:21
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ompauldalamar, there is, but like all drugs it is bad for you, and can lead to nasty viruses12:21
sorush20hi..12:22
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sorush20:-$12:22
sorush20hi12:22
alllanonasfra: i would assume firestarter will just offer a static or dynamic connection to the other pc then.12:22
Jowihi sorush2012:22
dalamarhmm well with the udma setting as high as the drive supports, k3b is burning faster but nowhere near 8x .. maybe need to look into a better quality drive that supports high udma settings12:22
sorush20what is a pdf viewer for mozilla.. except tha acroread12:22
asfraalllanon: yeah, should work...12:22
Loevborgis there any reason why suspend-to-disk in breezy doesn't even try to resume?12:23
ompauldalamar, is the supply side drive and the burner on the same ide by any chance?12:23
alllanondalamar: wait, 8x DVD or CD?12:23
dalamaralllanon, dvd12:23
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dalamarompaul, yessir, same channel12:23
alllanonthat IS quite fast. both source and target on same cable could slow it down that much.12:23
Loevborgit doesn't poweroff on suspend, either.12:23
dalamarlemme guess same cable is not good?12:24
ompauldalamar, well now when you share a bus with the source and destination you are asking to loose bandwidth on the ide channel12:24
alllanoni would put the dvd writer as master on the other cable.12:24
dalamarbecause I only have one hdd and one burner12:24
ompauldalamar, I suppose, in a word, to be exact, yes12:24
Jowidalamar: a burner should be secondary master12:24
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apokryphosSeveas: hi :)12:25
dalamarI will look into this for sure tonight then, will this have any bad effets on my ubuntu config or will hotplug find everything right?12:25
alllanonthen again... if he got better performance in windows with the same setup... then it probably is not it.12:25
alllanondalamar: no bad effect.12:25
alllanondalamar: maybe reconfigure K3b.12:25
ompaulapokryphos,  Seveas cya*12:25
alllanonwill be /dev/hdb1, I guess.12:25
dalamaralllanon, honestly I never used a program that showed my burn speed so I can't compare to windows12:25
asfraa crossover cable is the one where the colours are mixed in the plug right?12:25
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ompaulapokryphos, about 5 mins ago12:26
malingnite people12:26
alllanonasfra: yep12:26
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dalamarwith udma set to its highest right now and everything on same cable I'm getting about 3x for a dvd12:27
asfraalllanon: thanks again!12:27
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dalamaranyone have a clue on what kind of performance gain I might expect from using seperate ide channels for drive and hdd?12:28
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alllanondalamar: actually, that could also be the media.12:28
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dalamartdk .. is that crap? haven't ever burned a coaster12:28
durtbreezy seems to work alright... must configure now12:28
dalamardvd-r12:28
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knowledge_My current ubuntu install is on a 10 gig drive, (laptop)...I want to move it to my 60 gig, how can I do that?12:29
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alllanontdk: don't know about the one you have, but e.g. plextor drives will first try to determine quality of the media, then adjust the speed accordingly.12:29
knowledge_well I mean how can I move my home partition without any sort of problems12:29
alllanonverbatim will often burn on faster speeds than what is specified on the disc :}12:29
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alllanonuh. dalamar, not tdk.12:29
adam_lol;12:30
vader1102partimage then expand the space12:30
knowledge_vader1102: that's a reply to me?12:30
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vader1102yes12:30
alllanoni used to work on a helpdesk for all those companies. it is all crap, all oem, and everyone is blaming someone else :\12:30
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=== ompaul thinks about backing up the existing home directory and killing off this install rebuilding it from scratch and getting it right this time :-)
vader1102that will copy the entire disk then just expend the home12:31
knowledge_that sounds nice and complicated, I can only fit one drive at a time in my laptop12:31
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alllanonompaul: you mean installing archlinux?12:31
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dalamaralllanon, well price isnt an issue, if a certain disk will make it burn faster I'm all ears .. whats a real good burner in your opinion that -isnt- crap, good linux support?12:31
ompaulalllanon, no I mean rebuilding my ubuntu because I did a few things I did not mean to :-/12:31
vader1102partimage runs off of CD and if you have an external hdd, put the image on it12:32
Jowiknowledge_: a normal copy should be fine: cp -r -p /home /mountforseconddrive. after that you need to change fstab to point to your new /home. (-p in cp preserves all permissions)12:32
alllanonompaul: yes, bad joke :] 12:32
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alllanondalamar: good media is verbatim.  but burner is a bit harder...12:32
knowledge_Jowi: yeah, but there is no way of doing that on my laptop12:32
ompaulalllanon, one of them was a rather silly thing to do with backports which in and of themselves are not evil but are very close :-)12:32
jamiewow... lot's of people in here, yes?12:32
alllanondalamar: all ide drives should work equally fine on linux.  Earlier I would recommend plextor, but now...12:33
dalamaralllanon, btw, the burner wasn't oem but it is a memorex so heh .. they're not exactly known for hardware12:33
adam_493 on this channel12:33
ompauljamie, if you consider 493 in a channel a lot yes :)12:33
alllanondalamar: you think memorex made the drive themselves? I doubt it very very much :912:33
alllanon:}12:33
jamiehave you seen more on a channel ompaul?12:33
ompauljamie, yes12:33
Jowiknowledge_: if you can not copy your homedirectory how would you imagine to move it?12:33
dalamaralllanon, yeah, well I won't try to pronounce the name of the generic japanese company that probably DID make it lol12:34
knowledge_I have a windows desktop with a lot of room12:34
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jamieknowledge_... I HATE windows12:34
Jowiknowledge_: ah so you can copy the homedir over the network12:34
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alllanoneven Philips, which oftren have very good burners, sometimes repack something they have licensed.12:34
knowledge_jamie: the 60 gig used to be dedicated to windows...not anymoorrreeee12:34
alllanonBenq and Philips both OEM'ed eachother, I think.12:34
ompaulknowledge_, why do you think you need windows?12:35
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knowledge_Jowi: I guess I should have asked that first...that'll work? I mean there isn't any sort of problems in doing so?12:35
jamieeveryone, brb12:35
alllanonNEC might be a good choice. Never used it myself, but people that seems to be into burners usually speak well of them.12:35
benkong2ndiswrapper says you must have a link to "ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build" I have sources for 2.6.10 kernel but now I want to use the 2.6.10-k7 kernel and there is no build subdir. What do I do now?12:35
Jowiknowledge_: easiest way of doing it = create a ext3 partition on the desktop HDD. copy the files over the network with either ssh or samba.12:35
knowledge_ompaul: I know I don't, I oficially announced that my laptop (My computer) will no longer run windows.....ever12:35
iotc247Anyone know why Ubuntuforums.org isnt loading for me?12:36
knowledge_Jowi: I see12:36
alllanonof course, the warranty service of Plextor (in Europe, anyway) is very good, you don't even have to leave the house.... but no, still, i will not recommend plextor.12:36
Jowiknowledge_: you want to preserve the attributes on the files (owner, group, permissions etc)12:36
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dalamaralllanon, I guess I'll just do some googling and look at reviews for burners and linux, it works for now and speed is the only issue now heh, other things higher on the list like bigger hdd and more ram ;)12:36
knowledge_Jowi: that's why I need the ext3 partition?12:36
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Jowiknowledge_: yes. fat32 can not hold any of those details.12:37
knowledge_NTFS?12:37
KyralYou can't write to NTFS :P12:37
iotc247Ah did anyone just answer as to why ubuntuforums isnt loading? I accidently closed out gaim..12:37
Jowinot compatible as far as i know12:37
ompaulknowledge_, great12:37
alllanondalamar: http://club.cdfreaks.com/ - there you will find people with sKiLLZ :)12:37
knowledge_Kyral: I've done it12:37
KyralWhats he trying to do again?12:37
iotc247Yeah the kernel doesnt support anything but overwriting current files.12:37
dalamaralllanon, thanks ;)12:37
KyralUnder Linux I mean :P12:37
KyralI mean, any STABLE way :P12:37
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knowledge_Kyral: my current ubuntu install is on a 10 gig, I want to move it to a 60 gig which used to be windows...(now formatted)....I'm trying to do it without having any problems moving my /home dir12:38
Kyraleasy12:38
knowledge_and this is on a laptop12:38
knowledge_not so easy12:38
Kyralwait, can you exchange data between the drives?12:38
Kyralie, fire up a LiveCD?12:39
knowledge_unless I can't think of it12:39
knowledge_which is most likely the case12:39
iotc247Anyone here can tell me if the ubuntuforums are down? They are loading so slow I finally just got the title to display...12:39
knowledge_Kyral: nope, only one drive at a time on my laptop12:39
Kyralick12:39
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ompaulknowledge_, how much stuff is in your home partition [df -h <-- will tell u] 12:39
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knowledge_and only one IDE connector on my desktop12:39
KyralI'd backup /home to CDs12:39
ompaulknowledge_, for get that12:39
crubeWhen I have no ral problems I make them. I like my desktop Res higher than I'm able to run my games, but my xserver randomly crashes becouse of the Res change when starting or closing the game :/12:39
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ompaulknowledge_, cd /home; du -h and wait for it to run12:40
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knowledge_ompaul: home has 2.6Gigs12:40
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Kyralor get an external inclosure for the second drive12:40
Kyraland connect it via Firewire or USB (preferably Firewire)12:40
vader1102or USB 2.0 pcmcia card12:41
dalamarburn it to a dvd! ;)12:41
pfpknowledge_: how about putting both 2.5" drives into the desktop machine, you'd only need two cheap laptop->desktop ide adapters12:41
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knowledge_pfp: only one ide controller on my desktop (it's a mini pc....was gonna use it for the car)12:41
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Kyralhmm, I should get one of those and rip the 30 GB outta my old laptop :P12:41
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pfpknowledge_: jumper the 2nd drive as a slave?12:42
knowledge_oh wait...I'm a dipshit12:42
knowledge_I don't need my cdrom for it12:42
knowledge_!12:42
ubotuknowledge_: Are you on ritalin?12:42
knowledge_duhhh12:42
dalamarhaha12:42
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Kyrallol12:42
Kyral!lart ubotu12:42
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KyralHAH!12:42
pfpheh12:42
knowledge_why would the bot say that?.....typing to much?12:42
iotc247*Is pissed that forums wont load*12:43
Kyralno, you did a !12:43
knowledge_oh12:43
Kyralthats a preface to an Ubotu command12:43
knowledge_I see12:43
dalamar!botsnack12:43
ubotuthanks dalamar :)12:43
Kyral!java12:43
ubotuwell, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:43
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ompaul!ubotu12:43
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/12:43
binawoo12:44
dalamarubotu your the coolest!12:44
ubotudalamar: I don't know12:44
dalamaroh im sure12:44
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Kyral!anyone12:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>12:44
iotc247Since no one seemed to answer I will ask again, are the ubuntuforums down? they are not loading for me.12:44
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knowledge_hmmm.....so install ubuntu on my laptop....put both the drives in the desktop, boot a live cd...and copy the directory?12:44
Kyraliotc247, no clue12:44
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dalamaryes they are down12:44
ompaulknowledge_, if you have the space and the wire go for it12:45
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iotc247Great... When is colony 3 going up? thats why I tried to get to them.. Im installing it again since I think I fixed my stupid dvd drive to boot properly...12:45
dracflamlocanyone have any knowledge of how to get an ALPS touchpad to work in ubuntu?12:45
knowledge_ompaul: well I'm going to install on the 60, while it's on my laptop, then take both the drives, and boot live...then transfer...that'll work?12:45
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Kyral!start an irc client war12:45
ubotuxchat is better than gaim !12:45
apokryphosiotc247: going *up*?12:45
dalamarxchat is the spiff.12:46
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iotc247You know available on the ftp server..12:46
apokryphosiotc247: it's been available for some time12:46
apokryphosiotc247: see /topic12:46
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dracflamlocanyone?12:46
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dracflamlocare ubuntuforums down?12:46
apokryphosyes12:46
Kyralyes12:46
StormxI LOVE UNUNTU <3 <3 <312:46
iotc247http://us.cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-3/ Gives The requested URL /cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-3/ was not found on this server.12:46
knowledge_dracflamloc: are you talking about the features? or the actual pad?12:46
dracflamlocthe actual pad12:47
dracflamlocmy laptop the touchpad doesnt work12:47
martinQuestion: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?12:47
ompaulknowledge_, but I would actually bzip the contents into a single file and see if it gets nice and small12:47
apokryphosiotc247: hm, interesting.12:47
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ompaulknowledge_, you might be able to put it all on one CD12:47
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apokryphosiotc247: it's been taken down, apparently. I wonder why.12:47
knowledge_dracflamloc: should work by default, mine did on my dell12:47
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KyralI heard that rzip has an INSANE compression ratio12:47
iotc247I also browsed the file directories so its not like its a mistyped url..12:47
knowledge_ompaul: i have no problem waiting12:47
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dracflamlocknowledge_, mine only works if i plug in a usb mouse first12:47
Kyralbut also it takes forever12:47
dalamarrzip is supposedly slow and mem hungry as well though12:48
sorush21why is my cpu spped at 3245 ghz when I only have a few small programs running.. what the hell is going on ..12:48
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knowledge_oh damn!...I wouldn't be able to do it...can't boot a cd, no cd rom drive if both drives are in the comp12:48
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iotc247Ok for some reason now all of a sudden the uk link seemed to work.. Before it was giving me an error with document contains no data (firefox) (ie just didnt load)12:48
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Kyralsorush20, its always supposed to go that speed....12:48
Kyraldoesn't matter the load12:48
matt__hey, I'm getting a MD5sum mismatch when running apt-get update, it seems there's a problemhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz with12:48
ompaulknowledge_, that would mean that you could sit down and divide up the disk into lots of slices (okay okay partitions) and then get full and planned use of the disk12:48
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pfpknowledge_: you can boot from either of the hd's and then transfer your home (if that was what you're after?), can you not?12:49
knowledge_dracflamloc: fresh install? or did this happen out of no where?12:49
ompaulknowledge_, have you a second machine?12:49
dracflamlocknowledge_, its a fresh install12:49
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sorush21Kyral: why.. wouldn't it be more eco friendly if it was smarter in running at lower speed when I have low load..12:49
knowledge_pfp: yeah12:49
knowledge_ompaul: yaep12:49
Kyralsorush20, laptops do that kinda, but I don't know how...12:50
knowledge_dracflamloc: hmm, that's odd, what kind of pc?12:50
dracflamlochp zv526012:50
Kyraland right now, I don't care much about how much power my CPU takes up :P12:50
WartyBoHello??12:50
matt__does anyone know what could be causing the md5sum mismatch?12:50
dalamarbad iso12:50
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netdurit is safe to upgrade to breezy? I wanna do tests12:50
matt__bad iso?12:51
WartyBoCan anyone help me here?? I have a request of Cds, but it is large, anyone here from Shipit info team?????????12:51
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flgrmoin, is it possible to have one task bar per monitor? I'm running the Gnome server -- thanks!12:51
flgrWartyBo: I think it is probably best to mail them about it12:51
brett604how do i boot runlevel 3 without X?12:51
dracflamlocOH12:51
dracflamlochey i figured something out12:51
sorush21what is the command to remove a dpkg.. is it dpkg -e12:51
sorush21or not..12:51
binabrett604.  theres a program called bum you can use to change run level stuff i think12:51
ompaulknowledge_, then tarball the /home directory - (tar cvf my.tar /home/*) then sftp/scp this across to the other box - ohh and copy your repos list /etc/apt/sources.list in case you have something interesting and you want it again to do this with least effort if your not at linux long I would use a program called putty have fun12:51
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Kyralsorush20, you use Apt for it12:52
dracflamlocif i do: rmmod psmouse, and then modprobe psmouse, the touchpad works12:52
iotc247dpkg --remove I think..12:52
Kyralsudo apt-get -remove <package>12:52
iotc247or that..12:52
brett604isn't there a way to just change it off a config file? like all other linux os's?12:52
WartyBoHello? does anyone know if I can make a request of 1500 Cd`s of Warty ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????12:52
apokryphosno hyphen before remove12:52
jtan325WartyBob, you'd better get 1500 new users haha12:53
apokryphosWartyBo: so many question marks: gratuitous.12:53
jtan325no idea12:53
dracflamlochow can i add the command rmmod psmouse and modprobe psmouse to startup?12:53
binabrett604: probably :) i dont know it though12:53
knowledge_dracflamloc: gedit /etc/modules12:53
dracflamlocits in there12:53
dracflamlocbut doesnt work12:53
brett604that sucks12:53
brett604:-(12:53
ompaulWartyBo, why warty hoary would be handier and have a longer support cycle12:53
apokryphosWartyBo: email ubuntu or Canonical and give them a substantiated reason, and perhaps12:53
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Stormx<3 ubuntu12:53
StormxGo ubuntu go12:53
dracflamloci think that this laptop doesnt work the first time because it has one of those toggle buttons to turn off the pad12:53
knowledge_hmm12:53
Stormxw00p w00p12:53
WartyBojtan325, hehe. It`s for a distribution to my University for its 100 years old Aniversary.12:54
crubeWartyBo, I'm sure you can always ma a request, but I doubt it'll get you anywhere D:12:54
dracflamlocbut when i run it again it works12:54
dracflamlocso if i could add it to the X.org startup or something it should be fine12:54
WartyBocrube, I think so, but thanks anyway "D12:54
ompaulWartyBo, so get hoary for them all12:54
ompaulbed beckons12:54
WartyBoapokryphos, thank s a lot, I will right now.12:54
Kyralhmm12:54
knowledge_I"m pretty much out of ideas for you dracflamloc, but someone else should be able to help you12:55
KyralRZip is breaking on me12:55
nakata#gentoo / 881 :O12:55
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apokryphosWartyBo: info @ubuntu.com or @canonical.com12:55
sorush21why do computers crash and freeze when they are overclocked12:55
jamieamount of ppl went down..,...12:55
nakatathat's a pretty large ark12:55
brett604anyone know how do i can boot runlevel 3 without X?12:56
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WartyBoapokryphos, thanks a lot, i`ve just know about shipit @info.ubuntu.com12:56
dalamarsorush21, heat is a big issue12:56
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dracflamlocwho knows how to add command to the X startup?12:56
apokryphosWartyBo: that'll probably do, too.12:56
nakatadalamar, "you're"12:56
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dalamarnakata, ?12:56
jamieanyone know any commands for ubuntu?12:56
Jowidracflamloc: make a small script: nano mytouchpad + add the lines: #!/bin/sh + rmmod psmouse && modpobe psmouse . then make the script executable and put it in your /etc/rcwhatever/12:56
apokryphosjamie: no-one knows any, unfortunately.12:56
jamiedarn12:57
WartyBoI`ll mail them, don`t think will be a problem, don`t you think?12:57
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apokryphosjamie: command for *what*?12:57
jamieno idea... any command12:57
apokryphosWartyBo: dunno; partly depends on whether they think they'll be used etc12:57
apokryphosjamie: test12:57
jamiei jsut am trying to fiure it out12:57
jamiethanks12:57
jamiewill try out?12:57
crubeHey I was wondering if it's possible to change desktop resolution in gnome (while gnome is running) I was able to do this in KDE easily from kcontrol but I don't seem to be able to do this in gnome12:58
apokryphosjamie: or... whoami :P12:58
juanejdoes anyone know how do i make rox the default file manager?12:58
apokryphoscrube: there should be a resolution option from Settings or whatever12:58
dalamarcrube, system -> preferences -> screen resolution12:58
dracflamlocJowi, i want it to happen right before x windows starts, which rc do i add it in12:58
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Jowijamie: type in "a" and then press <tab> twice. that will give you all commands starting with that letter.12:58
dalamarany program for ubuntu that will play a mounted dvd image?12:58
crubeapokryphos,  yes but it tell me that my x-server doesn't support XRandR12:59
darkheartdracflamloc add it into your ~/.xsession file12:59
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neelshey all! How can i fix THUNDERBIRD just popping up if it is ALREADY RUNNING?12:59
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dracflamlocbut that only does it for this user12:59
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dracflamloci need it for any user. isnt there a global X startup script?12:59
apokryphosjamie: check the Wiki for a few basic commands: wiki.ubuntu.com ; for a introductory guide to Linux, check the rute manual...12:59
apokryphos!rute12:59
ubotufrom memory, rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/12:59
darkheartdracflamloc For all users, you need to edit a file inside /etc/X11. can't remember exactly which file.12:59
WartyBoapokryphos: I think distribution to all human kind would be a good reason for them to accept my request, hehe, well, assuming "all human kind" would be almost 1500 pc users at my faculty.01:00
jamieJowi: thanks01:00
apokryphosdracflamloc: what are you trying to do?01:00
Jowidracflamloc: i think rc2.d. the scripts get started by name. for examplt S20autofs starts before S89anacron01:00
apokryphosWartyBo: if they're going to be genuinely distributed, then you have a good case going for you.01:00
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dalamarfree woth a cheeseburger and fries01:01
dalamarwith too01:01
apokryphosdracflamloc: you can use the xserverrc file, probably01:01
Jowidracflamloc: type "runlevel" to find out which rc you should use01:01
neelsHow can i fix mozilla-thunderbird to just pop up if it is already running?01:01
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nakataas in "you are"01:01
dracflamlocN 2?01:02
dalamarwho was saying your? or you're? and since when was this english class?01:02
jamiegod... i don't need another english class!01:02
neelsmy mozilla-thunderbird brings up a sessions dialog if i click the launcher twice. CAN ANYONE HELP ME?01:02
WartyBoapokryphos: what do you mean with a "good case" ..01:03
jamieneels: I don't know what to say. Maybe, click it only once?01:03
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neelslol01:03
apokryphosWartyBo: good chance01:03
WartyBoapokryphos: ?01:03
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neelswell the problem are the mailto links from firefox01:03
neelsthey also bring up the sessions01:03
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neels:(01:03
Jowidracflamloc: number 201:03
matt__hi, how can i install uuencode on ubuntu?01:03
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neelsstill no help, jamie?01:04
jamiesorry01:04
jamieno help tehre01:04
neelsdidnt think so :)01:04
dracflamlocyea i figured01:04
dracflamlocrebooting now, to try01:04
neelsscheisse mann01:04
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Dekker_tripperHi people!01:05
dalamarHi!01:05
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jamieHi!01:06
Dekker_tripperDo you speak to Russian?01:06
dalamaronly if im really drunk01:06
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mindmedicwe speak to everyone01:06
dalamarno actually ;)01:06
jamienein, aber ich spreche der Deutsch! und only ein sehr klein amount... like so01:06
JowiDekker_tripper: i think there should be a #ubuntu-ru or #ubuntu.ru channel01:07
Dekker_tripperDo you speak to Deutsch?01:07
dalamari speak english .. and have a had time at that sometimes lol01:07
dalamarcase in point i cant spell hard01:07
jamieDeutsch is actually German01:07
dracflamlocthanks for the help. it worked =)01:07
Dekker_tripperWho admin?01:07
crubeI speak Finnish, english, a little swedish and a little latin :)01:07
Jowigood man dracflamloc01:07
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mindmedicjamie, polish your german sills :D01:08
Dekker_tripperWho admin?01:08
darkheart!ops01:08
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!01:08
Dekker_tripperthis admins?01:08
dalamari know some spanish but only from what i've learned from the taco bell menu01:08
jamiemindmedic: I am 14, in the eighth grade, and have only been taking it two years!01:08
apokryphosdarkheart: not a good idea to alert them for nothing...01:08
dalamarjamie, dont feel bad im 10 years older than you and dont know any ;)01:09
darkheartapokryphos Yeah, didn't really think that would happen before I typed it.01:09
Dekker_trippero hlopcy vam menia pridetsia kicknut'!01:09
mindmedicjamie, schade, sprachen knnen ist immer gut01:09
Dekker_tripperi prosto tak ne uidu!01:09
mindmedicmuss aber nicht deutsch sein01:09
Dekker_tripperXAXAXAXA01:09
Dekker_tripperVeselo!01:09
jamiegod... now I am confused, considering i only knowq about half of what you two just said...01:09
dracflamlocman01:10
mindmedicg00d night :D01:10
dracflamlocubuntu was by far the easiest linux install on a laptop i've ever had to do01:10
Dekker_tripperby01:10
Dekker_tripperpisec01:10
icewtdracflamloc, and it's still the best ;)01:10
jamiegute nacht01:10
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Epixhello01:11
dalamarubuntu was the easiest linux install i've ever had period .. was running fc4 previously, its nice but too structured and ubuntu caters to more of what I'm looking for01:11
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dracflamlochow come the "sound server" fopr gnome blocks sound from games like tuxracer?01:11
WartyBoomg I was so lagged01:11
Epixim wondering where i get the quake3 linux point release file. I cant find it!01:11
Dekker_tripperKick Epix01:11
neelsjamie: he had some empty remarks on language skills. dont worry01:11
Xappeanyone here that recently compiled linuxdc++ on ppc?01:11
dracflamlocif i disable it i get sounds in tuxracer but not event sounds01:11
Dekker_tripperi new admin01:11
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jamiebye bye everyone01:11
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techiiumm, i have a problem with copying a image to a floppy with dd01:11
EpixDekker_tripper: you wish...01:11
neelshasn't anyone here fixed their thunderbird??01:12
Jowidracflamloc: its the hideous esd. killall esd will solve it temporarily01:12
EpixDekker_tripper: Usually admins are people who use proper grammer.01:12
Epixgrammar*01:12
apokryphosdracflamloc: it's actually not that easy an install compared to a few01:12
apokryphosdracflamloc: still no graphical installer in yet...01:12
dalamari fixed it, i deleted it ;)  rm'd ... sorry01:12
neelsi mean, you could ALWAYS just click a darn mailto link in firefox, and thunderbird came up. what are they thinking?01:12
dracflamlocas far as hardware compatibility its the easiest i've done01:12
crubeEpix if you have the original quake you should be able to find the necessary files at least from torrent sites01:12
Dekker_trippersorry za my english01:12
apokryphosneels: /me does prefer Kontact :P01:12
neelsno shit01:13
icewtEpix, ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/linux/linuxq3apoint-1.32.x86.run ?01:13
Epixcrube: i have quake three, like a real copy01:13
neelsnever boy, thunderbird is the standard for me.01:13
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crubeEpix,  just wanted to make sure you're no pirate! Yarrr!01:13
dalamarhaha01:13
dalamarreal pirates are the coolest, not computer ones01:14
Epixcrube: nobody ever said that my real copy was a legit one... :P01:14
neelsok now i'll find it out and be the first, harr harr01:14
dalamarshun!01:14
Dekker_tripper(^ ^)01:14
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asfraI'm trying to use firestarter to share an internet-connection. However when I start it I get the message that eth0 is not ready. eth0 is the card to my local network. Why is that? I've set it to use DHCP...01:14
Dekker_tripper( . )( . )01:14
Epixicewt: 550! FTP's version of the 40401:14
Dekker_trippertitty01:14
Dekker_trippersiski01:15
dalamarno battleship for me, just a schooner with some serious cannons! make way the long nines!01:15
neelsasfra: i had to do some "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" to get it going.01:15
neelsthe eth0, that is.01:15
Dekker_tripperbad bots!01:15
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icewtEpix, then you've just to use google. or, actually, i already used ftp://fileserver.battlefoundry.net/games/q3/linuxq3apoint-1.32.x86.run01:15
dracflamlochow hard is it to use kde in ubuntu and still have a choice to switch to gnome or kde?01:15
crubePirates always remind me of those good ol' Monkey Island games :P01:15
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Dekker_tripperUSA FOREVER!! :)))))01:16
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Deep6guys anyone got the correct apt source for enlightenment beta?01:16
mindmedicEpix, id software is one of the very few ones supporting the linux platform. so if you pirate their games just be sure to play online :))01:16
neelsdracflamloc: just install it and you should be able to select upon login between gnome and kde01:16
dracflamlocgreat01:16
Jowicrube: that is fantastic. i played monkey island (1) on a monochrome tandy for the first time01:16
rob_pasfra:  Your local network interface should have a static IP if it's going to provide connectivity to the outside world via NAT...01:16
LinuxJonesDekker_tripper, stop spamming the channel please01:16
Dekker_trippergo to korea!01:16
dalamardracflamloc, fairly simple, although if they are install for the same user the menus overlap ie gnome apps show on kde menu and vice versa01:16
neelsdracflamloc: you can always run kde programs from gnome and vice versa01:16
crubeJowi,  I've played 1,2 and 3 :)01:16
dracflamlocyea01:16
Epixmindmedic: im doing this to run a server! :P01:16
LinuxJonesbob2, / Seveas, ping01:17
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dracflamloci'm just wanting to try out kde. i've been a fluxbox and gnome user all the time01:17
dracflamlockinda curious to try a differnt one01:17
neelsgee, have fun, i'll be off01:17
asfraneels: could it be a problem that I'm using eth1 to the internet while eth0  to the local network. eth1 is my wireless-card?01:17
apokryphosdracflamloc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:17
Jowicrube: same here. over and ove again. then i tried the 4 demo and was not impressed at all. that 3d looks bloody awful :-)01:17
rob_pasfra:  mainly because it's IP address will become the default gateway for all of the internal hosts.  If it's dynamic, it causes problems...01:17
neelsasfra: no. they should not interfere01:17
crubeJowi,  well I didn't even want to try that one :P01:17
neelsCHEERS!!01:17
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dalamarmonkey island games are the coolest, funny as hell01:17
dalamarand hell is funny let me tell you!01:18
Jowiasfra: eth1 to the internet should get dhcp. eth0 should have a static ip since your other computer is gonna use it as a gateway01:18
andrilgoodnight all - hopefully the repositories come back soon - I got to get ready for a Hurricane: Katrina01:18
Epixdalamar: monkey island?01:18
crubeI'm Guybrush Threepwood! A mightry pirate!01:18
crubemighty*01:18
dracflamlocapokryphos, oops, i just selected the kde package in synaptic01:18
Jowinight all. need some sleep01:19
apokryphosdracflamloc: not too good an idea01:19
dalamarEpix, yeah, you dont know monkey island?01:19
icewtdalamar, but Arcade Volleyball is the best game ever. luckily there's also gav ;)01:19
xulMunkeei think KQ is the best01:19
apokryphosdracflamloc: if the download hasn't finished, best to cancel and just go for kubuntu-desktop01:19
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dalamarxulMunkee, king quest is the master of point and click rpg ;)01:20
asfrarob_p: yes, I see that my eth0 card isn't getting an ip-adress. What adress should I give it then? I gave the internal machine 192.168.0.1. My wireless card is using DHCP by the way01:20
Epixdalamar: what is it01:20
medamaybehm..random question...does anyone know how I can get the icon to the trash can back?01:20
dalamarEpix, classic point and click rpg series about pirates01:20
Epixheh01:20
xulMunkeedalamar, not king quest.. the KQ game pkg in synaptic01:20
dracflamlocapokryphos, ok i'll cancel01:21
asfraJowi: ok, so I need to fill in the static ip I give my eht0 card as an gateway to my internal machin01:21
dalamarxulMunkee, ah, never played01:21
xulMunkeedalamar, do try it out. it's quite good01:21
dalamari spend my gaming hours on ubuntu in snes9x playing every rpg I ever loved and some other favorites01:21
xulMunkeei love ubuntu. the whole world is but an apt-get away :)01:21
apokryphosxulMunkee: thank Debian for a lot of that :P01:22
dalamarsuper punchout, bomberman, zelda, chrono trigger, secret of mana, illlusions of gaia, the list goes on ;)01:22
Dekker_tripperops01:22
Ex-Cyberdalamar: ever played Terranigma?01:22
icewtbut we should all just play gav all the time01:22
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rob_pasfra:  Ok, first, the box providing the Internet connection sharing should have a static IP on it's internal interface.  Usually something like 192.168.1.1.  The external interface may remain DHCP.  All the internal hosts that will be relying on your box for their Internet connection should then be assigned IP addresses within the 192.168.1.0/24 range.  This can be done with a local DHCP server or assigned manually.01:22
dalamarEx-Cyber, no but I've heard the name before, what is it?01:22
crubeEx-Cyber,  Terranigma. That's pretty good01:23
Dekker_tripperrob_p: you lamer??01:23
Ex-Cyberdalamar: it's an action/adventure/rpg thingy (whatever you want to call the genre) from Quintet, the development house that did Actraiser/Soulblazer/Illusion of Gaia01:23
Ex-Cyberthere was no US release but there was an English PAL release01:23
asfrarob_p: thanks alot! I think I'll fix it now01:24
dalamarEx-Cyber, snes?01:24
Dekker_tripperrob_p: you lamo?01:24
Ex-Cyberdalamar: just thought I'd mention it since you mentioned Illusion of Gaia :)01:24
Ex-Cyberyes, SNES01:24
dalamarim on a mission to find it now ;)01:24
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medamaybedoes anyone know how I can see windowsboxes in my network?01:25
Dekker_trippermother fucking01:25
iotc247Samba I think01:25
rob_pmedamaybe:  Yes.  Use Samba.01:25
medamaybeI don't know how to use samba :(01:25
apokryphosDekker_tripper: what are you doing?01:25
Dekker_tripperkama-sutra01:25
crubelol I was looking for help to my resolution problems and I accidently found a site linuxsucks.org :D A funny site it is01:25
derFlociao01:25
Dekker_tripperall by01:26
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Ex-Cybercrube: I'm generally partial to the Unix Haters' Handbook... and funroll-loops.org01:26
medamayberob_p, is samba easy to use?01:26
rob_pasfra:  Don't forget to make sure that all the internal hosts use that box's internal IP address for their default gateways.01:26
RavenOk, I ran into a problem...I don't have 2 Laptop adapters to put into my desktop01:27
rob_pmedamaybe:  Yes, I think so.01:27
Ex-Cyber(I don't say this to bash Gentoo, actually I like it, but it inspires some truly mind-boggling stupidity in some people)01:27
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medamaybeok...01:27
medamaybeany hints on where to start?01:27
rob_pmedamaybe:  It didn't seem too difficult to me when I set it up.01:27
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netdurpoeple, how do I remove kde?01:27
medamaybewell, the way I see it, there's not much to set up01:27
rob_pmedamaybe:  Yes.  First go in and edit the smb.conf file.01:27
knowledge_Can I tar.bz2 a my home directory if it's being used?01:27
naliothknowledge_: you are a quick one01:28
apokryphosnetdur: your best luck is with debfoster; though, why do you want to? Low on space?01:28
rob_pmedamaybe:  the config file for Samba is located in your /etc/samba directory.01:28
netdurI don't use kde01:28
naliothknowledge_: better that it isnt (i.e. from another account)01:28
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medamaybeok...it's read only..lol01:28
naliothknowledge_: cuz logs and such are constantly updating01:29
rob_pmedamaybe:  use sudo01:29
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medamaybehmm..01:29
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apokryphosnetdur: and *no* kde apps? Removing kdelibs will remove most of the stuff...01:29
Epixhmm01:29
TaxManWhen Ubuntu is already installed, how do I partition and format a new harddisk, /dev/sdb?01:29
Epixwhen i try to run the q3 point release installer: ./setup.sh: line 213: 31240 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>/dev/null01:29
knowledge_nalioth: so how would you copy my home dir to another laptop hard drive?01:29
medamaybesudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.cnf?01:29
dalamarEx-Cyber, ooh, found it, thanks for the heads up ;)01:29
dracflamloctaxman, cfdisk01:29
Epixand then01:29
EpixThe setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.101:29
Epixopps01:29
naliothknowledge_: log out of the active machine (leave login screen up)01:30
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naliothknowledge_: then sftp your homedir from login-screen-machine to your laptop01:30
naliothknowledge_: from your laptop01:30
elviroloare the forums down ?01:30
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apokryphoselvirolo: yes01:30
elviroloapokryphos: ok thx01:30
knowledge_nalioth: you have lost me01:30
rob_pmedamaybe:  yes, that should work :-)  I use vi 'cause it's hard to break old habits...01:30
medamaybeI hate vi01:31
naliothknowledge_: on your machine with your good homedir (full of the things the way you like), make sure that machine has openssh-server installed01:31
rob_pmedamaybe:  actually it's smb.conf not smb.cnf01:31
medamaybeyeah I noticed, typo01:31
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iotc247when are the forums expected to be up? or is it not maintenance.01:31
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naliothknowledge_: then log out of your good homedir machine (leave it running, at a login screen)01:31
TaxMandracflamloc, when running cfdisk it has disk drive: /dev/sda at the top. How do I run it for /dev/sdb?01:31
apokryphosiotc247: it probably isn't, no.01:31
netdurapokryphos, nice :) thank you01:31
dracflamlocTaxMan, cfdisk /dev/sdb01:32
iotc247Darn... That sucks..01:32
medamaybethere's so much in that file that I don't understand (yet)01:32
naliothknowledge_: then get on your laptop, sftp into the machine you just logged out of (the one iwth the homedir you want to xfer) and sftp your homedir into your laptop01:32
rob_pmedamaybe:  Yeah, I know.  Most folks do.  I like it because I am familliar with it and I know that it will be there on almost any box I need to maintain :-)01:32
TaxManAh :) Thanks.01:32
knowledge_ohhhh wait wait, nalioth: this is from laptop drive to laptop drie01:32
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knowledge_ve*01:32
teressahello boys01:32
teressaWhat do you all think of XFCE?01:32
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medamaybewell, you're right about that...I might look into vi again01:33
naliothknowledge_: again, you've lost me01:33
apokryphosteressa: decent light-weight DE01:33
teressaIs it worth it?01:33
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medamayberob_p, do I have to restart anything after I edit that file?01:33
apokryphosteressa: if you specifically want a lightweight DE then I'd probably recommend fluxbox/enlightenment/xfce01:34
VivaLaRoachAny tips on backing up dvd01:34
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TaxManIn cfdisk, under type, I don't see ext3... is cfdisk only for partitioning and not formating? If so, after I partition, how do I format a partition for ext3?01:34
knowledge_nalioth: My current ubuntu install is on a 10 gig (on my laptop)...I want to swap it onto a 60 gig (also laptop) same laptop...2 drives, only one spot for a drive01:34
naliothVivaLaRoach: dvd::rip (in the repos as dvdrip)01:34
teressahmmm01:34
mjrTaxMan, only; mke2fs -j /dev/whatever01:34
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naliothknowledge_: where is the target HD now?01:34
apokryphosteressa: if you want more features/power, I'd recommend KDE01:34
teressaWhat about a good html editor a la Dreamweaver?01:34
apokryphosor gnome01:34
rob_pmedamaybe:  you might want to cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf_original or something similar before editing it.  That way you can go back to an original config file if you screw the working one up.  Yes.  You will need to restart samba after editing that file.01:34
|Imp|i have a laptop running warty01:34
|Imp|i want to update to hoary01:34
|Imp|i have a hoary cd01:34
VivaLaRoachcan't download dvdrip, problem with dependencies01:34
|Imp|how do i do the update?01:34
knowledge_nalioth: it's getting an ubuntu install right now01:35
apokryphosteressa: you mean a HTML editor or a WYSIWYG HTML Editor?01:35
apokryphos!dreamweaver01:35
ubotuapokryphos: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!01:35
medamaybehmm..how do I restart samba?01:35
apokryphosheh01:35
knowledge_nalioth in my laptop01:35
teressaummm not sure01:35
teressaWhat is better?01:35
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mjrmedamaybe, /etc/init.d/samba restart01:35
naliothknowledge_: so where is the HD with the homedir of your desires right now?01:35
rob_pmedamaybe:  just do a, "sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload"01:35
apokryphosteressa: I think WYSIWYG editors are a joke, personally; the code they write is lame. Dreamweaver is one, though.01:35
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medamaybek, thanks01:35
|Imp|hullo?01:35
knowledge_nalioth: sitting next to the laptop...not doing anything (not connected)01:35
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rob_pmedamaybe:  That will cause samba to re-read it's config file.01:35
teressaOkay, so what is a good straight up html editor?01:36
naliothapokryphos: i think mozilla composer comes closest to rendering w3w compliant code01:36
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dalamarnano!01:36
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apokryphosteressa: you'll have to write the code yourself :). But I think the best out there is Quanta+01:36
naliothknowledge_: you must connect the orphan to a machine somewhere01:36
apokryphosdalamar: great highlighting ;-)01:36
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kaptainkany help on increasing the mouse roll of my mouse whell in ubuntu gnome?01:36
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dalamari know nothing nevermind me ;)01:36
|Imp|how do i upgrade from warty to hoary if i have a hoary cd?01:37
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medamaybeit says /etc/init.d/samba is not found01:37
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teressahmmm01:37
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teressaquanta looks good01:37
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teressaCan synaptic install it?01:37
jbarberoHello, I'm a new Ubuntu user...01:37
Velox|Imp|: I think you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list then run an apt-get update, apt get dist-upgrade01:37
drewwhat is the file path for the repositories?01:37
jbarberoJust wondering how I can fetch the kernel sources?01:38
apokryphosteressa: it has many advanced features, and is perfect for [X] HTML, XML, PHP, and other languages01:38
knowledge_nalioth: I could connect one laptop drive at a time to my desktop maching...running windows (ntfs)...someone said something about the permissions will be lost if I transfer to a ntfs drive...so I need to tar.bz my home dir, dump it onto my windows box...then back onto my 60 gig01:38
|Imp|Velox, edit in what way?01:38
rob_pmedamaybe:  It should be there if you installed samba.01:38
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medamaybewell...I never did01:38
Velox|Imp|: add the Ubuntu Hoary CD to the sources.01:38
medamaybeit was just there01:38
AdmiralSennokay, I have a very large 'what the heck' situation here01:38
Stormxokay01:38
naliothknowledge_: you'll need to hook the orphan up to your windows box, initiate the ubuntu live cd, mount the orphan HD and follow my instructions above01:38
kaptainkdrew     sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:38
|Imp|velox, yes, how?01:38
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apokryphosteressa: sorry, it is in the repositories, yes.01:39
AdmiralSennfor some reason things aren't working right and it has to do with xorg.conf and the nvidia drivers01:39
teressaIs there one specifically for gnome?01:39
knowledge_nalioth: the orphan being the 10 gig?01:39
Veloxsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:39
rob_pmedamaybe:  do a, "ls /etc/init.d | grep samba" and see if it finds it.01:39
AdmiralSennevery time I start ubuntu I have sound but certain things won't work until I reinstall the drivers01:39
apokryphosteressa: gedit can probably handle basic HTML highlighting, at least.01:39
AdmiralSennand every time I do that, ALSA breaks01:39
naliothknowledge_: the orphan being the one laying outside of a puter right now( with the homedir of your desires on it)01:39
teressaQuanta it is!01:39
medamaybeok, what does grep do? does that search for a keyword in a filename?01:39
teressah aha01:39
AdmiralSennso I can have sound or video but not both01:40
AdmiralSennany ideas anyone?01:40
knowledge_nalioth: I see01:40
rob_pmedamaybe:  more or less, yes.01:40
teressaThanks apokryphos :)01:40
apokryphosno worries01:40
StormxAdmiralSenn: Theres a wizard that lets you edit the xorg file.01:40
medamaybeit didn't find anything01:40
apokryphosStormx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:40
StormxAdmiralSenn: Maybe going through that will help reset defaults?01:40
AdmiralSennStormx: that's great but I don't know what I'm doing01:40
AdmiralSennheh01:40
AdmiralSennI don't WANT defaults01:40
knowledge_OHHH....I see what you mean nalioth01:40
AdmiralSennI want the drivers to work01:40
iotc247Anyone test out the new colony 3 of Breezy? Is it any good (the new changes that is)01:41
apokryphosAdmiralSenn: nvidia drivers for graphics have *nothing* to do with alsa01:41
AdmiralSennI shouldn't have to reinstall my graphics drivers every time I turn on the machine01:41
AdmiralSennapokryphos: in theory no01:41
rob_pmedamaybe:  basically your getting a listing of the /etc/init.d directory and then piping it through grep to search for the string, "samba"01:41
apokryphosiotc247: very much so, yes. Pacey.01:41
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teressaI thought breezy was still borked?01:41
AdmiralSennbut when I uninstall/reinstall them, alsa breaks01:41
apokryphosAdmiralSenn: what changes, specifically, are you making?01:41
AdmiralSennI'm not making ANY changes01:41
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apokryphosteressa: not really; fairly stable at the mo01:41
apokryphosAdmiralSenn: then nothing is changing :)01:41
AdmiralSennapokryphos: bull01:41
AdmiralSennsomething is horribly wrong01:42
medamaybewell...it doesn't show any results01:42
juanej!packages01:42
ubotuYou can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com01:42
apokryphosno change -> no change. Seems like a fairly basic premise. :P01:42
AdmiralSennor I wouldn't have to uninstall reinstall every time I load ubuntu01:42
naliothknowledge_: how many linux boxen do you have?01:42
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AdmiralSennit's getting rather tedious, and now the graphics installation bit is breaking ALSA01:42
apokryphosAdmiralSenn: then something *is* changing, isn't it? You're restarting01:42
jbarberowhat package are the kernel sources?01:42
AdmiralSennthe damn machine froze....01:42
Epixwhen trying to install quake3 point release, i get this error: The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.101:42
AdmiralSennand I don't always leave it on for weeks on end01:42
AdmiralSennnothing should be changing01:43
rob_pmedamaybe:  It really should be there if you installed samba.  Hmm, strange...01:43
medamaybeI never installed it manually01:43
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sweatybobHey, im installing ubuntu tommorow, on my only harddrive and i only have 5 Gb of un allocated space... is that enough =/01:44
apokryphossweatybob: indeed01:44
kaptainkdoes anyone know how to configure a mouse wheel in ubuntu?01:44
medamaybeI thought samba was installed automatically01:44
apokryphoskaptaink: edit your xorg.conf and add in the X-axis; or, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:44
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apokryphoss/X-axis/Z-axis01:44
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Epixi have libc5 and i still get that error01:45
jbarberowhat package are the kernel sources?01:45
AdmiralSennI reiterate: when I boot into ubuntu, I must reinstall my nvidia drivers to get everything working. Doing so somehow breaks alsa. Restarting fixes alsa, requiring me to fix the graphics driver again... etc01:45
sweatybobapokryphos: And... ubuntu will make a partition from my unallocated space i DO NOT want to format my NTFS partition with windows and all my files on it.01:45
TeHHerzogdose any one know the link to a good irc bot that is easy to use?01:45
kaptainkwill that allow me to increase the speed of my wheel?01:45
kaptainkas in the one that scrolls up and down pages?01:45
medamayberob_p, does the fact that I have a /etc/samba/ directory mean samba is installed?01:45
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rob_pmedamaybe:  Nope.  I think I had to install it manually.01:45
medamaybehmm....damn01:45
apokryphossweatybob: if you don't tell it to, no, it won't do that01:45
rob_pdo a, sudo apt-get install samba01:46
sweatybobapokryphos: ok so i just have to read what im doing and be careful, right?01:46
medamaybeok01:46
iotc247Oh since Im going to be installing ubuntu breezy soon (waiting for cd to finish downloading) I wanted to know how do I get firefox to upgrade to the trunk.. Is there like a firefox-trunk package or something?01:46
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medamaybeso why is there a smb.conf  file if samba is not installed?01:46
apokryphossweatybob: basically, yes.01:46
adam_is breezy out yet?01:46
sweatybobwhats ubuntu breezy?01:46
Stormxno01:46
cafuegoadam_: october01:46
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adam_aha;01:46
Stormx!breezy01:46
ubotubreezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/01:46
adam_oh ic01:47
rob_pmedamaybe:  Couldn't tell you...  Just install it.01:47
adam_thanks for telling me01:47
sweatybobHow long do the CDs from the unbuntu website normaly take to ship?01:47
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AdmiralSennsweatybob: depends..01:47
sweatybobon?01:47
dalamarare you in BFE?01:47
adam_it took me 2 months01:48
AdmiralSennwhere you live01:48
sweatybobUK01:48
AdmiralSennwhen you ordered01:48
adam_and i live in Canada01:48
Stormxsweatybob: Where you live / how many you order / current queue01:48
AdmiralSennI'm in the US and it took about 6 weeks01:48
sweatybobUK. 6 CDS.01:48
StormxI ordered my friend 130 and they got their pretty fast.01:48
Stormx^_^01:48
adam_wow;01:48
Stormxsweatybob: I live in UK and it took me a couple of months to get 20. Things could have impoved, mind.01:48
dalamarfind  some serious bandwidth and download it ;)01:48
iotc247Ok I dont even wanna know what kind of party you are having (I take it for coasters?)01:48
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Xappewhat are they doing with the forums?01:49
rob_pmedamaybe:  Did you get it installed yet?01:49
sweatybobi've downloaded it.01:49
medamaybeyeah01:49
dalamariotc247, trap shooting01:49
medamaybeI installed it01:49
sweatybobive got it here on CD waiting for me to install tommorow.01:49
medamaybeI'm trying to figure out how to configure it01:49
AdmiralSennhmm01:49
rob_pmedamaybe:  Ok.  Now you should be able to edit that config file we discussed earlier.  I'd make a backup of the original beforehand.01:50
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jbarberowill someone /please/ help me?01:50
iotc247*Waits patiently while forums are down.. Ok patients over. Out of Patients. Please insert new Patients[4]  to continue.*01:50
AdmiralSennin the terminal I get this when I try to run xmms: libmp4v2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:50
jbarberokernel-source is the 2.4 sources package01:50
AdmiralSennand again reinstalling nvidia drivers fixes that01:50
jbarberoHow can I install the kernel sources?01:50
medamaybeok, I made a backup of that file and edited everything I think I needed to change01:50
jbarberoiotc247: the forums were slashdotted, weren't they?01:50
crimsun_jbarbero, linux-tree-2.6.1001:50
medamaybeand I reloaded samba01:50
jbarberocrimsun_: thanks!01:50
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crimsun_jbarbero, unless you want just the headers, which are linux-headers-$(uname -r)01:50
iotc247@jbarbero Huh?01:51
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sweatybobopps sorry.01:51
rob_pmedamaybe:  The main things are the workgroup name, the authentication (user level or share level - you probably want share level), and then you need to create a share.  That should get you going.01:51
asfrarob_p: I can now ping both eth0 and eth1 form my internal computer, however, it wont connect to any remote adresses. Do you know what it could be? perhaps a firewall-setting?01:51
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medamaybeI have to create a share? even if I only want to view other computers?01:52
rob_pasfra:  perhaps...01:52
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rob_pasfra:  what are you using to configure the NAT routing for you?01:52
AdmiralSennokay clearly nobody is able or willing to help...01:52
rob_pasfra:  firestarter or something?01:53
AdmiralSennso I'm going to uninstall nvidia drivers, reboot, then reinstall and see what happens01:53
firezastra: do you have 2 network cards, right?01:53
firezYou must enable port-forwarding first01:54
asfrarob_p: I haven't done any NAT stuff yet, I assumed the firestarter would take care of it?01:54
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rob_pasfra:  the fact that you can ping both interfaces from the inside is a good thing!  You're almost there :-)01:54
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reikiwhat's the command I'd use to get fetchmail to go check messages right now even though I had started it in daemon mode?01:54
rob_pasfra:  You need to have firestarter enable the connection sharing feature.01:54
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asfrarob_p: I can't traceroute any of the interfaces.. could that mean anything01:54
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asfrarop_p that feature is enabled01:55
medamaybehm...it's not working :(01:55
rob_pasfra:  If you can ping them and get replies back, just proceed with the configuration of firestarter.01:55
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asfrarop_p forget the traceroute, that was just slow01:55
rob_pasfra:  did you re-apply it?01:55
lexmarkmy sound card is not being detected.. its a turtle beach brand Model is Santa CRuz ... tried the wiki resource its no help01:55
crimsun_lexmark, using snd_cs46xx?01:56
sweatybobyou guys know your stuff01:56
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lexmarknever used snd_cs46xx before01:56
lexmarkhow do I do that?01:57
Xappeanyone here that feels that lifw is boring and screams for fun? in that case that person is free to tell me how to compile the latest update of linuxdc++ on ppc :) othesa are also free to join in01:57
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asfrarob_p: yeah, did it now01:57
medamayberob_p, are you sure I need samba to view my network? from what I've read it's a server01:57
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rob_pmedamaybe:  It is both a client and a server :-)01:58
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rob_pasfra:  did it work?01:58
johniois there a bug with linux-restricted-modules in breezy, even though I have it installed it gives me ----FATAL: Module nvidia not found.01:58
medamaybemmkay01:58
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medamaybewell, the client part isn't working either :)01:59
floppyearshi01:59
floppyearsI'm having problems with apache1.301:59
apokryphosjohnio: the latest linux-restricted-modules is missing a few nvidia things, like nvidia.ko01:59
floppyearsI have two vhosts, and when I use both of the different domain names I get the same document ;(01:59
johnioapokryphos: oh, ok, so the best thing is to try to downgrade01:59
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TaxManWhen I do "extract_compressed_fs mnt/casper/filesystem.cloop > extracted_fs" (even as a su), it says "bash: extracted_fs: Permission denied". extracted_fs does not exist and if I do create it then it says "bash: extracted_fs: Is a directory". How do I get permission? I tried sudo... I don't get it.02:00
asfrarob_p: still can't ping a remote adress. It doesn't look like I can manually do anyting with NAT either...  It really isn't much to configure in the firestarter.02:00
apokryphosjohnio: to the 2.6.10 one, yes, but it's no longer in breezy :/02:00
apokryphosjohnio: I got in just in time :P02:00
johnioapokryphos: tnx02:00
johnioapokryphos: hmm maybe I wil jsut have to install it manually02:00
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medamayberob_p,  do I have to change this "server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)" ?02:01
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johnioapokryphos: do you know why thay left it out, is ther a bug for it?02:01
floppyearscan somebody help me with apache?02:01
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apokryphosjohnio: I'm not sure if it's intentional; there've been problems with drivers (and X) in breezy for some time02:02
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iiiearsfloppyears - "Circle the wagons!"  - ???? - grin02:02
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rmflaggIs there anyone that can help me out with a GDM problem?02:02
asfrarob_p: I've got the outbound policy permissive by default, no entries in the table. I'll try to add the internal computers ip in the inbound policy02:02
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apokryphosrmflagg: no-one can without knowing the problem. Don't ask to ask. :)02:04
johniormflagg: whats your problem02:04
johnio...02:04
medamaybecan anyone tell me what to change in the smb.conf file to make me ubuntu box see the LAN maintained by a win2k server?02:05
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crubeHey I've got a problem with changing my desktop resolution under Gnome. I've trie reconfiguring my xorg.conf using fglrxconfig, and I made a working config file with multiple resolutions. Still I get the error message that my xserver doesn't support XRandR. This problem occured after changing from KDE to GNOME. I was able to change REs under KDE with no problems before02:05
thechitowncubshow is windows performance through VMware?02:05
rmflaggI have to ask first, otherwise people tend to just ignore the question...just the way it is!02:05
NoUse!resolution02:05
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:05
thechitowncubs!resizepratition02:05
ubotuthechitowncubs: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:05
thechitowncubs!resizepartition02:06
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, thechitowncubs02:06
rmflaggGDM no longer asks to change the default session, what do I have to change to get it to ask again?02:06
thechitowncubsWhat is required to resize an ext3 partition?02:06
apokryphoscrube: do you have xrandr stuff installed?02:06
iiiearsqtparted or gparted02:06
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knowledge_nalioth, I got both computers up and running...what did you say I need to install for them to recognise each other?02:07
thechitowncubsiiiears: what type of livecd can i use that doesn't mount the hard drive, so i can edit the partitions?02:07
thechitowncubsor wait, can i resize them with the ubuntu installer cd?02:07
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westermannhey02:07
apokryphoshi there02:07
westermannich hab mir nen kernel selber kompiliert und vergessen ne initrd zu erstellen, kann ich das nachtrglich machen?02:08
naliothknowledge_: on your machine with the 10gb HD, make sure openssh-server is installed02:08
naliothwestermann: im #ubuntu-de, bitte02:08
medamaybeany samba specialists ?02:08
buulianseveas: is it possible to have a picture come up while linux is loading, instead of the prompt text?02:09
knowledge_nalioth, ok, then what?02:09
StormxYo, can I write you guys a fan letter?02:09
rmflaggjohnio: GDM no longer asks to change the default session, what do I have to change to get it to ask again?02:09
westermannnalioth, sorry02:09
crubeapokryphos,  yes I have XRandR stuff installed.02:09
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naliothon your new install, sftp into your 10gb machine (use gftp with ssh2 mode)02:09
juanejanyone using xfce?02:09
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buulianjuanej: fluxbox02:09
juaneji want that maximized windows can't be resized02:09
buulianjuanej: it's better02:09
juaneji didnt like it02:10
buulianjuanej: for every one their own02:10
juanejhehe02:10
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asfrarob_p: still here?02:10
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buuliandoes anyone know if it possible to have a picture come up while linux is loading, instead of the prompt text?02:10
knowledge_nalioth, Logout and use tty1?02:10
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rob_pasfra:  Yeah... sorry about that!  My connection has been suffering today :-)02:10
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naliothknowledge_: nah, go ahead and do it from your account, then logout and back in02:11
GazaMhey... could someone tell me if ubuntuforums.org is down? I keep getting connection refused when trying to get to it.02:11
knowledge_oh ok02:11
naliothknowledge_: use gftp (ssh2) for easy xfer02:11
johnionakata: same for me02:11
rob_pasfra:  The weather isn't particularly poor either... not sure what is causing it.  Anyway, did you get it to work yet?02:11
johnionalioth: it seems to be02:11
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buuliandoes anyone know if it possible to have a picture come up while linux is loading, instead of the prompt text?02:12
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kemikbuulian:  think they're fixing that in breezy02:12
buulianawesome02:12
asfrarob_p: I understodd from google that my eth0 card shouldn't have the eth1 card as gateway. However, I cant ping a remote adress from my eth0 card either.02:12
reikirun fetchmail as daemon or cron?02:12
buulianwhen's breezy coming out?02:12
buuliansoon right?02:12
Xappeoctober02:12
buulianhow do you do that manually?02:12
johnioreiki: i ran it as a cron02:12
reikibuulian: October02:12
lvraaboctober02:12
buulianONE MORE MONTH!!!???02:12
buulianNOOOOOOOO02:13
asfrarob_p: and when I traceroute the eth1 card from my internal computer it doesn't list the eth0 card02:13
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buuliananother question: how do you make ubuntu "hibernate" ???02:13
TaSSiSUbuntu cames with KDE?02:13
iiiearsbuulian i believe you can add a simple low res pic to grub on boot up no?02:13
asfrarob_p: should my local card on the external computer have the wireless card as gateway?02:13
reikijohnio: when run as a cron.... you can still run fetchmail between cron timings... correct?02:13
lvraabTaSSiS: Kubuntu does02:14
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rob_pasfra:  The box providing the NAT services uses the gateway specified by your router, ISP, etc.  Don't put a gateway for the internal interface.  Otherwise your box will try to use the internal interface for it's gateway which is NOT what you want.02:14
buulianiiiears: i'd like the picture to take the place of the prompt text- like a bootscreen under windows os02:14
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iiiearssounds nice02:14
naliothbuulian: there will be a bootsplash editor in breezy, i believe02:14
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buulianwhere can i find out for sure?02:15
buulianforum?02:15
rmflaggapokryphos: This is what I was talking about.  I ask the question and I get ignored...if I ask to ask, at least I get a response of some sort.02:15
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apokryphosrmflagg: why does that mean you should ask to ask?02:15
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durtdoes anybody know how to disable clicking when the touchpad is tapped?02:16
iiiearsbuulian google images grub splash screen  - some nice pics02:16
solidunitare the english forums down?02:16
ilba7ranyone know how to run a boot script with specific shell like open box /enlightenment02:16
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rmflaggSo that someone who might have a clue could be targeted with the question at hand.02:16
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buulianiiiears: will that do the same as a bootscreen>02:16
rmflagg...and it IS polite.02:17
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buulianoh02:17
ilba7rI used to do it before usin .xsession02:17
buulianiiiears: google is a charm02:17
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rob_pasfra:  Here's what you need to achieve, the box providing the NAT services will get it's IP, DNS, gateway, etc. from your router/ISP/whatever.  It's internal interface will have an IP address that you assign manually (usually something like 192.168.1.1).  Then, all the internal hosts that will be relying on that box for their connections need to have IP addresses assigned within the 192.168.1.0/24 network range.  They will02:17
rob_palso have to have their default gateway set to the NAT box's internal IP address.02:17
sorush20I need help.. I'm trying to install a plug in gkerllm and i don't know how to do it.. can some one help please..02:17
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medamayberob_p, guess what....it's not working :)02:18
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buulianGrub Splashimages aren't the same thing02:18
rob_pmedamaybe:  Can you ping the computer you want to access?02:18
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tristanmikeforums are still down!?02:19
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medamaybeyeah I can, the computer I want to access provides my internet connection02:19
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macgyver2yeah, tristanmike, still down...02:19
buulianbasically i'd like the same thing as RedHat- the "Non-Verbose" startup02:19
tristanmikewow, they've been down since early this afternoon02:19
tristanmikemacgyver2, thanx02:20
TheRaginAsiananyone else lose clearlooks-olive and the update-notifier after latest updates?02:20
macgyver2tristanmike, np02:20
crimsunTheRaginAsian: in Breezy?02:20
TheRaginAsianyep02:20
crimsunTheRaginAsian: please don't upgrade AT ALL for at least the next 6 hours.02:20
rob_pmedamaybe:  Ahhh, so you're using something to provide Internet connection sharing... this means that you are probably using a firewall that configures this for you.  In that case, you need to unblock ports 137-139 and 445.02:20
TheRaginAsianlol o really?02:20
NoUsebuulian I think it requires a kernel patch or two, if you google ubuntu bootsplash you might find some HOWTOs02:20
TheRaginAsianno one told me that WAHH!H! lol02:21
TheRaginAsianwhats up?02:21
TaxManI'm trying to follow LiveCDCustomizationHowTo in the wiki, but I got confused at the customizations stage. "Updating Specific Packages" is quite confusing. What is this "dir-holding-all-packages"? Obviously it doesn't exist. What should I replace it with when I follow that section?02:21
TheRaginAsiancrimsun: what goin on right now?02:21
buulianMoUse: that'll accomplish what i'm after?02:21
crimsunTheRaginAsian: there's a good chance that if you're not paying attention, you'll lose all of ubuntu-desktop02:21
medamaybehmm..I'm not sure I understand what you mean02:21
sjgoo02:21
TheRaginAsianoh really why?02:21
medamaybeI'll describe my LAN02:21
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NoUsebuulian I believe so02:21
crimsunTheRaginAsian: (well, not all, but anything that depends on libcairo2)02:21
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TheRaginAsianyeah I noticed it pulled cairo02:21
TheRaginAsianwhats up with that02:21
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medamaybeI have a win2000 server, which is connected to the internet and that's the pc I want to access.. then there's my workstation, which is ubuntu, and I want to be able to access the shared drives on my win2k server02:22
crimsunthe Debian maintainer rebuilt cairo without glitz, which essentially means Ubuntu has to rebuild everything that depends on cairo.02:22
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seanjhilo02:22
medamaybeI have a firewall on the server02:22
seanjcrimsun, is that why GPG sigs aren't matching or missing ?02:22
sjgcrimsun, ack02:22
medamaybeand it's set to allow all connections from my workstation02:22
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TheRaginAsiancrimsun: do you know whats happening?02:22
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TheRaginAsianyeah I definetly lost cairo02:23
seanjGPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>02:23
tristanmikethat sounds pretty crappy02:23
knowledge_nalioth, I'm sorry to keep bothering you but, how do I share the folder over samba?02:23
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crimsunseanj: that has nothing to do with GPG.02:23
knowledge_I can't seem to view it02:23
buulianhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplash02:23
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FlonneSo (almost) every component of Gnome is being rebuilt?02:23
crimsunTheRaginAsian: the safe thing to do is simply to refrain from updating/dist-upgrading for at least 6 hours02:23
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seanj-.- ok then can i assume none of the ubuntu repo stuff is reliable and go use fuddora or something instead ?02:23
TheRaginAsianwell its a little late from me lol02:24
TheRaginAsian*for02:24
claudeHi, anyone know how can I use my dvi output instead of my analog output of my video card ?02:24
rob_pmedamaybe:  the server, as in the machine on which you want to access windows shares?02:24
TheRaginAsianis there a posting somewhere about this you could link me to?02:24
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crimsunTheRaginAsian: eh, I lost X.Org and all of GNOME.02:24
seanjwelp, i think i'll go get exploited with my critically vulernable system02:24
seanjcya02:24
TheRaginAsianOMG seriously?02:24
TheRaginAsianholy crap02:24
TheRaginAsianwhats going on!!!02:24
medamaybethe server is on the win2000 pc02:24
asfrarob_p: yeah, I understand. thanks alot for your help. The machine connected to the internet connects trought a wlan card which is eth1, same machine connects to another not connected to the internet, it then uses the eth0 card. when trying to ping remote adresses with the eth0 card, it fails. I think this is what it all comes down to, since the eth0 card is the gateway for the other machine...02:24
medamaybeso yes02:24
crimsunTheRaginAsian: yeah, I lost a lot more thanks to my stupid use of dist-upgrade. I would have been fine with upgrade.02:25
naliothknowledge_: i dont do windows, so have very little knowledge about samba02:25
crimsunTheRaginAsian: moral of the story: don't touch any upgrading for a bit02:25
naliothknowledge_: i recommend booting a ubuntu livecd02:25
medamaybeuhm..the firewall is on the windows2000 pc, which has the files I want to access02:25
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TheRaginAsianso i take it you reinstalled then?02:25
TheRaginAsianwhat exactly are they doing?02:25
knowledge_nalioth, no no...desktop is running the 10 gig..with a live cd, and my laptop is running a fresh install02:25
FlonneTheRaginAsian, cairo is a fairly central library. A *ton* of graphical elements have it as an inherited dependency.02:25
rob_pmedamaybe:  Did you allow filesharing in the firewall?02:25
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TaxManI fail to understand the commands under "Updating Specific Packages" in wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo. Can someone help me understand what I need to replace "dir-holding-all-packages" with?02:25
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crimsunTheRaginAsian: no, I thanked $deity for /var/cache/apt/archives/02:26
buulianonce breezy comes out, all i have to do is "apt-get upgrade" right?02:26
naliothknowledge_: then again, your samba question is confusing me02:26
apokryphosbuulian: you will need to change your sources first02:26
Flonnebuulian, apt-get dist-upgrade02:26
crimsunTheRaginAsian: everything that depends on gtk2 is being rebuilt. As you might guess, that's a LOT.02:26
buuliancool thanks02:26
medamaybewell, the other computers (all windows) in my LAN don't have a problem connecting and viewing the shares on the win2000 pc02:26
TheRaginAsianwow... why the rebuild?02:26
crube!resolution02:26
ubotuhmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:26
TheRaginAsianhow do you know all this too lol I cant find where to get info like this on Ubuntu02:26
knowledge_nalioth, I was trying to figure out a "graphical" way of swaping the files02:26
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TheRaginAsianI only started using Ubuntu the other night02:26
naliothknowledge_: use gftp from your new install02:27
TheRaginAsianlast time I did an upgrade everything went well02:27
Tortelis there a way to acess a windows partition?02:27
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apokryphoscrimsun: any idea bout problems with drivers in breezy? Latest linux-restricted-modules doesn't have i.e. nvidia.ko; few people have had problems with that here...02:27
apokryphosTortel: yes, mount it.02:27
dooglusTortel: if it's NTFS, you can mount it but only for reading.02:27
crimsunTheRaginAsian: like I mentioned above, the Debian maintainer pulled glitz from cairo, which means that Ubuntu has to resync and rebuild - quite an ugly build process.02:27
crimsunTheRaginAsian: I just read -devel scrollback.02:27
monkey89im sure tons of people are asking this if its true, but are the ubuntu forums down?02:27
crimsunmonkey89: yes02:27
monkey89ok, thank you02:28
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TheRaginAsianohhh... devel scrollback?02:28
naliothcrimsun: when is the onjoin msg coming?02:28
naliothcrimsun: re the downed forums?02:28
rob_pasfra:  Once you get your network setup properly, the Internet connection sharing is pretty easy but until your network is configured correctly, you don't have a prayer :-)02:28
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crubeOk I give up :( After reconfiguring xorg.config and setting up loads of things I still can't change the Res in Gnome :P Well I think I'll continue tomorrow. :)02:29
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dooglusTortel: I use "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/c"02:29
Torteloo02:29
Tortelthanks02:29
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rob_pmedamaybe:  Then apparently your Windows server isn't firewalling that type of traffic.  So that means you're down to configuration issues with Samba...02:29
matt_Hi, how can I add squashfs to ubuntu? is there a kernel module?02:29
medamaybelol..I could've told you that..;)02:30
solidunitare there e17 packages for hoary?02:30
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ninnghizidhaHello! I'm looking for the command, to start fglrxconfig JUST for the monitor-setup02:30
apokryphosTortel: for it to be done whenever you start up your computer etc you will have to put in an entry into /etc/fstab02:30
jamie_1i am back... anyone else seill here?02:30
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rayim here02:30
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medamaybeI changed the workgroup and the security level,  I don't know what else to change02:30
apokryphosTortel: i.e.   /dev/hdb3       /media/windoze  ntfs    umask=0222      0       002:30
jamie_1well....... i am jamie... anyone i have run into earlier still here?02:30
rob_pmedamaybe:  Are you using share level or user level authentication?02:30
TheRaginAsianso if I wait for everything to get updated then upgrade will my missing stuff come back or am I fuxord until I either reinstall Colony 3 or wait for final?02:31
medamaybeshare02:31
rob_pmedamaybe:  Ok.  That is typical for most users.02:31
crimsunTheRaginAsian: you should be fine updating && upgrading (and reinstalling just the removed packages) in about a day02:31
rob_pmedamaybe:  did you set the right workgroup name in the config file?02:31
medamaybeyeah I did02:32
medamaybeI double checked it02:32
rob_pmedamaybe:  Did you specify a share and make it available, etc?02:32
apokryphossolidunit: yes, in the nooms repo02:32
apokryphosubotu: tell solidunit about e02:32
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apokryphosgah, someone deleted the factoid. Annoying.02:32
matt_Hi, how can I add squashfs to ubuntu? is there a kernel module?02:33
medamaybeon the win2000, yeah, there's a share, the windows computers can see it02:33
apokryphossolidunit: deb http://ubuntu.nooms.de/ hoary/02:33
TheRaginAsiancrimsun: thanks. how do i track down what needs to be install lol02:34
asfrarob_p: portscan from my internal machine says that the machine connected to the internet only has ports 21,22 and 2628 open. Firestarter says that the internal interface is trying send packages to a bunch of other different ports. Could this be it, or should NAT do the trick?02:34
TheRaginAsian*be reinstalled that is02:34
TheRaginAsianis there an apt log02:34
TaxManI fail to understand the commands under "Updating Specific Packages" in wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo. Can someone help me understand what I need to replace "dir-holding-all-packages" with?02:34
rob_pmedamaybe:  Oh yeah, I forgot that you were trying to see a share on the Windoze box and not the Linux one.  Do this, specify a share and make it viewable, available, etc. and see if you can browse it from the Windows box.02:34
medamaybeok02:34
medamaybeback in a few02:34
fluvvellI have previously compiled and installed 536ep modem drivers under Mandrake, but am having trouble figuring whats missing under ubuntu.  Can someone enlighten me?02:35
jamie_1mandrake?02:35
HrdwrBoB536ep?02:36
jamie_1fluvvell: my dad said that mandrake didn't even work anymore!02:36
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HrdwrBoBjamie_1: no because it's not madriva02:36
HrdwrBoBmandriva02:36
rayits mandriva now02:36
fluvvellyes02:36
HrdwrBoBpronounced 'man driver'02:36
xulMunkeelol02:36
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jamie_1sorry02:36
rob_pasfra:  Since I don't know exactly how firestarter configures things, I could only give guesses.  However, you do need some sort of NAT services active if you want the internal hosts to have access to the outside world through the Linux box.02:36
apokryphosMandrake+Connectiva02:36
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HrdwrBoBfluvvell: I was taking the piss :)02:37
xulMunkeelol02:37
fluvvelllol, sorry02:37
rayanybody try mandriva?02:37
medamayberob_p,  I can see the share on my ubuntu box from my windows box02:37
jamie_1well, so did I02:37
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Inkehor Mandrivoris xD02:37
HrdwrBoBfluvvell: ok, your model driver is most likely in linux-restricted-mofules02:37
HrdwrBoBfluvvell: ok, your model driver is most likely in linux-restricted-modules02:37
TheRaginAsianso what exactly does it mean if it says "Depends: package_foo But is not going to be installed"02:37
solidunitare there e17 packages for hoary?02:37
fluvvelloh, I had dl'd the tar.gz from intel.02:37
crimsunTheRaginAsian: dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop|egrep '^(p|n)'02:37
crimsunerr02:38
rob_pmedamaybe:  Cool!  This is good.  I'd say you're almost there :-)02:38
crimsunmake that p|r02:38
medamaybelol02:38
kermitvanfroschHello :)02:38
medamaybealmost there is not good enough ;)02:38
jamie_1hi02:38
kermitvanfroschI'm considering switching from SuSE 9.3 pro to Ubuntu and have a few questions02:38
xulMunkeeegrep '^(p|r)' is same as grep '^[pr] ' no?02:39
kermitvanfroschHow usable is Colony 3 ?02:39
rob_pmedamaybe:  Ok, so when you go to, Places --> Network Servers, do you see the Windows machine?02:39
fluvvellHrdwrBob: it says ltwinmodem, but not specifically 536 ham02:39
kermitvanfroschOr is Ubuntu 5.04 still the best choice?02:39
xulMunkeekermitvanfrosch, i love ze ubuntu yaho!02:40
kermitvanfroschI especially need good out-of-the-box hardware-support02:40
jamie_1i think 5.04 is till the best..... nicht sure02:40
medamaybeno, I don't02:40
TheRaginAsiankermitvanfrosch Colony 3 is very usable... just dont upgrade right now lol02:41
crimsunTheRaginAsian: it's pretty much as simple as reinstalling ubuntu-desktop after updating in a day02:41
rayanyone here like fedora?02:41
kermitvanfroschHow easy would it be to keep the 5.10 betas stable? Should be no big deal with apt or is it?02:41
medamaybeI see "windows network", and when I click on it I see nothing02:41
TheRaginAsianoh why thank you crimsun02:41
TheRaginAsianwill that fix Clearlooks you think?02:41
kermitvanfroschsorry: I meant "current" nbot "stable"02:41
crimsunTheRaginAsian: it'll fix everything02:41
TheRaginAsianis there any reason that Olive got removed?02:41
TheRaginAsianoh alright neat02:41
TheRaginAsiankewl thanks that makes life easy02:41
rob_pmedamaybe:  I can't remember if I asked you this already but are you running a local firewall on your Linux box?02:41
TheRaginAsianso crimsun are you a devel or something?02:41
crimsunTheRaginAsian: basically anything with a dependency on gtk2 got yanked if you used dist-upgrade02:41
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crimsunTheRaginAsian: I'm a MOTU02:42
kermitvanfrosch@raginasian, I don't want to upgrade, I'm considering a clean install02:42
medamaybeyou didn't ask that, and no, not running a firewall on the local box02:42
TheRaginAsianMOTU?02:42
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crimsunTheRaginAsian: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU02:42
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TheRaginAsiankermitvanfrosch: yeah, clean install from Colony 3 I did and it worked great02:42
crimsunkermitvanfrosch: a clean of Colony 3 should work fine.02:42
crimsunkermitvanfrosch: just don't update/upgrade past it for the next day.02:42
knowledge_how do I reconfigure X (command line)02:42
kermitvanfroschKeeping it current after that?02:43
fluvvellHrdwrBob: are you familiar with the02:43
fluvvellIn02:43
crimsunknowledge_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:43
fluvvelltel02:43
kermitvanfroschaptg-get update or apt-get upgrade?02:43
fluvvell536ep02:43
TheRaginAsianohhh neat02:43
kermitvanfroschbig deal or no problem?02:43
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crimsunkermitvanfrosch: correct. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade02:43
kermitvanfroschThat will update to the latest beta release, top the "current" branch or?02:44
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HrdwrBoBfluvvell: no02:44
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TheRaginAsiankewl title crimsun lol02:44
HrdwrBoBfluvvell: I just did some brief research, looks like a giant pain in the bum02:44
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rob_pmedamaybe:  When you open, Places --> Network Servers and then select, "reload" under the, "view" tab, do you get an icon that says, "Windows Network?"02:45
medamaybeyes02:45
knowledge_crimsun, you're the mann!02:45
sorush20I need help.. I'm trying to install a plug in gkerllm and i don't know how to do it.. can some one help please..02:45
medamaybethat icon has always been there02:46
rob_pmedamaybe:  If so, when you open, "Windows Network", does a reload on that window show your Windows box?02:46
fluvvellHrdwrBob: hmm, if I could get compiling to happen, I'd feel a lot better02:46
HrdwrBoBfluvvell: apt-get install build-essential02:46
medamaybeno, it doesn't02:46
HrdwrBoBfluvvell: what I've read indicates the driver is only for 2.4?02:46
kermitvanfroschHow easy is it in ubuntu to give gtk+ apps a qute-like-look under kde and the other way round ... like SuSE and Fedora do it?02:46
kermitvanfroschI like it when things look consistent02:47
fluvvellHrdwrBob:the intel site has it working under 2.602:47
naliothkermitvanfrosch: ubuntu is LINUX, so its as easy as in any other linux02:47
kermitvanfroschI do know that ...02:47
TheRaginAsianlol, I just realized...02:47
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kermitvanfroschbut other distos do it out-of-the-box ... there's nothing easier than that :)02:47
TheRaginAsianI was going to ask if there was a blog or something to know when to upgrade or not02:47
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kermitvanfroschjust wondering if I just need to install a few packages or if it's a great deal of configuration-work02:48
jamie_1gtg, bb02:48
naliothkermitvanfrosch: there are many themes available02:49
kermitvanfroschIt's not about the seems02:49
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rob_pmedamaybe:  Then I'm out of ideas for the moment...  The fact that you can access the Linux box's share from the Windows box means that things are functioning.  Why you can't see the shares on the Windows box from the Linux box is beyond me.  It should work though.02:49
kermitvanfroschUnder SuSE if I run Firefox in KDE it uses qute-like-qidgets02:49
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medamaybe:(02:50
kermitvanfroschunder ubunut 5.04 firefox uses plain gtk+ widgets without any skin02:50
medamaybethanks for trying02:50
drewI get an error that says: could not stat (insert hoary extras or backports URL here)02:50
fluvvellHrdwrBob: thanx, am installing build-essentials now02:50
codecaineAnyone in here help me on auto-loading python scripts for xchat2?02:50
HrdwrBoBfluvvell: cool02:50
codecaineI put them in .xchat2 home and they don't auto-load02:50
HrdwrBoBfluvvell: you will also need linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:50
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rob_pmedamaybe:  give it some time... maybe it takes some time for the cache list of windows hosts to be updated or something similar.02:51
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fluvvellHrdwrBob: think I have them already, its now looking for autoconf.h - but wait, these are in /usr/include, whys it looking in ...02:52
TrippI've install Pengaol, and it requires QTkylix to run, but the file Pengui is missing, any ideas?02:52
pfphey, is there any documentation on how booting on raid (R-1) is done in hoary?02:52
crimsunkermitvanfrosch: you need gtk2-engines-gtk-qt02:53
crimsunkermitvanfrosch: then configure it in KControl02:53
rob_pmedamaybe:  You could even try rebooting the Windows box to see if it shows up in the list after the reboot...02:53
fluvvellHrdwrBob: should I copy autoconf.h into the directory maybe?02:53
codecaineTripp, mdadm, md are part of the process02:53
medamaybeok, I'll try that tomorrow02:53
rob_pmedamaybe:  Anyway, good luck with it.02:53
medamaybeit's 3am at the moment :)02:53
medamaybethanks rob02:53
kermitvanfrosch@crimsun02:53
kermitvanfroschthanks02:53
rob_pmedamaybe:  for me too!02:53
TrippWhat is part of the process?02:53
medamaybein fact, thanks A LOT :)02:54
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asfrarob_p: I CAN connect to remote adresses now. However, it is a DNS problem. When I type the ip-it works, but not the name. Any clues on what I can do?02:54
rob_pmedamaybe:  No problem!  Take care.02:54
c0rrupt_whats the program in kubuntu that automaticaly searches for programs not added to the panel?02:54
medamaybetc02:54
rob_pasfra:  Did you specify DNS ip addresses in the network configurations on the internal hosts?02:54
sjgmmm psp just bought for 110 bucks :P02:54
vader1102medamaybe, are you sure it isn't WINS?02:55
asfrarob_p: nope, I have not.. Then I can just type the ones used in the external computer?02:55
rob_pasfra:  Do a, "cat /etc/resolv.conf" on the box providing the NAT services.  Then use those IP addresses for the DNS entries on the internal hosts.02:55
rob_pasfra:  yes02:55
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pfp... i'm familiar with mdadm and the kernel autodetecting swraid arrays, but hoary uses some initrd magick it seems :O02:56
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asfrarob_p: great, I think it will work now. It just have to!! :-)02:56
medamaybevader1102, WINS...how?02:56
juanejhey, azureus downloaded from repositories doesnt work for me02:56
TheRaginAsianso what is the big White Bar in the Bootsplash for?02:56
juaneji cant update02:56
TheRaginAsianfuture upgrade02:56
bleckis anyone running e17?02:56
juanejis there a .deb or something?02:56
crimsunTheRaginAsian: it'll be a progress bar eventually02:56
vader1102well, if you are trying to use the pc name it would be WINS wouldn't it be?02:56
TheRaginAsianoh neat02:56
TheRaginAsianjeez crimsun can you tell me my future too?02:57
TheRaginAsianlol02:57
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crimsunhah, nope02:57
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TheRaginAsianyou seem to be able to answer everything else02:57
crimsunonly a small subset of "everything else"02:57
medamaybeI'm not using any pc names02:57
TheRaginAsianhaha, enough to make me go "wow"02:57
TheRaginAsianI just cant believe how impressed I am with Ubuntu02:58
vader1102sorry mis-read then02:58
medamaybenp02:58
c0rrupt_whats the program in kubuntu that automaticaly searches for programs not added to the panel?02:58
HrdwrBoBc0rrupt_: that would be #kubuntu02:58
TheRaginAsianI mean, im using a snapshot release, which happenes to run beautifully and excellently02:58
c0rrupt_heh02:58
Tortelgah02:58
TheRaginAsianits absoluetly amazing02:58
rob_pasfra:  By the way, if you are interested in an alternative to firestarter, I wrote a stateful firewall specifically for Ubuntu Linux that also provides NAT functionality if you care to try it out.  You can get more details here: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/27/1/02:59
Tortelhow do i mount a device when im not the root user?02:59
sorush20is there a firewall like alramzone for Ubuntu02:59
TheRaginAsianand the level of usablitiy that Gnome has in Ubuntu is just unmatched02:59
c0rrupt_sudo02:59
c0rrupt_-.-02:59
sorush20how can I find out my cpu temp..02:59
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c0rrupt_touch it02:59
c0rrupt_gkrellm02:59
sorush20c0rrupt_: ha ha02:59
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naliothsorush20: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13002:59
kevin_how do i burn music cd's?02:59
kevin_In nautilus all it does is burn the files...03:00
c0rrupt_throw them in the microwave03:00
TheRaginAsianoh wow im going to just avoid upgrading anything for awhile...03:00
kevin_Hahah.. very funny03:00
TheRaginAsianall I wanted to do was install the nvidia driver and it wanted to pull rhythmbox on me lol03:00
naliothkevin_: use k3b03:00
kevin_ink03:00
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TheRaginAsianI agree with nalioth03:00
kevin_in gnome?03:00
Tortelhow do i mount a device when im not the root user?03:00
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TheRaginAsianthere is Gnomebaker or Graveman if you dont want K3B but K3B really is the best03:01
crimsunTortel: by prefacing mount with sudo03:01
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smoetI have a silly question... how on earth can you configure services?03:01
sorush20nalioth: thanks for the firewall tip..03:01
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sorush20is anyone here using GKrellM03:01
|QuaD-how can i tell if X is crashing, or gdm is grashing?03:01
TimmahDaPhas anyone here tried to install ubuntu just to recover files from a broken windows xp?03:02
kermitvanfroschIs it possible to "install" the grub bootloader into a single binary-file so I can integrate it into the NT-bootloader?03:02
kermitvanfroschor do I need to install it somewhere and do a dd later on?03:02
HrdwrBoBkermitvanfrosch: the NT bootloader is an abomination03:02
|QuaD-TimmahDaP: thats what livecds are for03:02
HrdwrBoB.. just quietly03:02
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kermitvanfroschI know ... grub is better ...03:02
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crimsunkermitvanfrosch: GRUB works fine with NT's loader.03:02
HrdwrBoByou can easily reinstall grub with a liveCD03:02
crimsunkermitvanfrosch: just install GRUB to the MBR.03:02
asfrarob_p: thanks for the help, and the tip, I'll check it out!03:02
rob_pasfra:  I take it that worked?03:03
sorush20apt-get install acroread installs and old version 5.0 , however the mozilla pluging for acrobat reader needs adobe acrobat reader 7 has somone fixed this problem..03:03
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kermitvanfroschBut I test a lot of Windows OS and since they love to overwrite the MBR it's easiest to just let grub be loaded be the nt-bootloader03:03
codecainejust chroot to / and run grub-install right?03:03
TimmahDaPquad: i can do that but then I want to burn them to CD03:03
CoplandWhere do I get the Java JRE so I can use java applets in my browser03:03
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Coplandand so i can use azuerus03:03
TimmahDaPonly one CD-ROM drive03:03
Kyralubotu tell Copland about java03:04
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|QuaD-TimmahDaP: you aren't going to burn anything with a CD-ROM drive :)03:04
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TimmahDaPlol...03:04
TimmahDaPCD-RW i guess03:04
Kyral!botsnack03:04
ubotu:)03:04
|QuaD-so no one has any hints to see if X or gdm or gnome is crashing?03:05
Kyralgood bot...03:05
c0rrupt_where are all of the network interfaces and their config located03:05
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TheRaginAsian|QuaD: logout of Gnome03:05
TheRaginAsianand see what happenes03:05
|QuaD-TheRaginAsian: if it wasn't frozen i would :)03:05
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TheRaginAsianif GDM catches you I dont think its GDM03:05
TheRaginAsianoh lol03:05
rob_pc0rrupt_:  /etc/network/interfaces03:05
TheRaginAsiancan you ctrl+alt+bkspace03:05
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|QuaD-TheRaginAsian: that doesn't work03:06
dracflamlocubuntu rocks =)03:06
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|QuaD-its completely frozen03:06
|QuaD-if that doesn't work... its X?03:06
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TheRaginAsianyeah, are you using a hardware driver03:06
c0rrupt_at my boot03:06
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c0rrupt_it hangs at configuring network03:07
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|QuaD-TheRaginAsian: currently using nv, does the same with nvidia though03:07
c0rrupt_i dont know why..03:07
c0rrupt_i also cant ping localhost03:07
smoetwhy isn't there a standard option that let me configure services...03:07
TheRaginAsianhmm... I dunno then03:07
|QuaD-c0rrupt_: you try sudo dhclient?03:07
asfrarob_p: Yeah, now it actually works! I should have thought of DNS earlier, to late at night I guess. However, thanks alot..03:07
crimsunsmoet: "configure" how?03:07
c0rrupt_well03:07
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c0rrupt_im connected just fine03:07
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c0rrupt_someone in here fixed it before03:07
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c0rrupt_but i forgot how03:07
c0rrupt_:'(03:07
TheRaginAsian|QuaD: id love you help you out but im just a ubuntu convert like 2 days ago so I dont have a clue03:07
smoetcrimsun: like shutting down ipp or smtp03:08
crimsunsmoet: sure there is: man update-rc.d03:08
TheRaginAsianIn arch if X froze it was the nvidia driver lol03:08
TheRaginAsianwell, im going to go eat though, ill be bakc later03:08
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|QuaD-TheRaginAsian: no worries, i have been using since oct, and i can't figure htis one out (and before oct, i used debian for a few years)03:08
|QuaD-ttyl03:08
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crimsunsmoet: if you need to configure the actual programs, dpkg-reconfigure $package03:08
rob_pasfra:  Cool!  Glad it's working for you now.  Take care.03:08
c0rrupt_ok |QuaD-03:08
c0rrupt_a quick03:08
|QuaD-i am not leaving03:08
smoetjust a program that let's me view all the services and if they are running or not. like with most distro's03:09
smoetguess that isn't possible thanks though crimsun03:09
c0rrupt_/etc/init.d/networking restart fixed it03:09
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c0rrupt_but i think something is fu*king up at boot03:09
c0rrupt_it freezes03:09
c0rrupt_until i ctrl+C03:09
c0rrupt_"configuring network interfaces"03:09
|QuaD-c0rrupt_: i am not that good with the networking03:09
c0rrupt_bleh03:09
vitriolwnere can i find docs on the ubuntu installer and how it works? i want to check out a copy of the latest installer from cvs/svn/whatever03:09
c0rrupt_seveas03:09
c0rrupt_is03:10
c0rrupt_;)03:10
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vitrioli know the ubuntu installer is essentially d-i but i wanna get it directly from ubuntu complete with any modifications...03:10
jeyehello03:10
codecaineanyone in here help me get python scripts auto-loaded in xchat?03:11
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knowledge_ok...I've tried everything...how do I get the files from my desktop (ubuntu) to my laptop (ubuntu)?!!??!..03:12
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knowledge_this is driving me nuts03:12
NoUseknowledge_ ssh03:12
knowledge_anything with a graphical interface?03:13
dooglusknowledge_: use ftp or scp?03:13
knowledge_I'm terrible with command03:13
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jeyedooglus: try sftp :D03:13
NoUseGnome network places support sftp I believe03:13
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nooneelsei'm trying install some packages using apt-get install package03:13
naliothknowledge_: what procedure have you done?03:13
nooneelsebut it isnt installing the dependencies03:14
nooneelsewhy its happening ?03:14
knowledge_nalioth, places, network servers, uNtouhced03:14
vitriolknowledge_: how do you want to do it? you can set up an ftp server03:14
knowledge_and NOTHING comes up03:14
kevin_it says the file type is FLAC...03:14
kevin_and the lenght is Zero..03:14
kevin_what is FLAC?03:14
vitriolknowledge_: or you can use scp03:14
titaniululzi just downloaded a theme from gnome-look.org which uses the clearlook engine. i can't find any instructions on where to put the files; anyone know? :)03:14
knowledge_I'm about 3 seconds away from launching my laptop...I don't have the patience for this03:15
TimmahDaPi've had audio files that were flac before03:15
vitriolhaha03:15
bob2FLAC = lossless music format03:15
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vitriolknowledge_: apt-get install proftpd03:15
bob2rather excellent for storing your ripped cs03:15
nooneelsesomeone ?03:15
naliothknowledge_: you dont need any of that03:15
vitriolknowledge_: once you install proftpd you should be able to just use an ftp client on the other computer03:15
kevin_what does lossless mean?03:15
NoUsekevin_ you don't loss any quality03:15
knowledge_nalioth, any of what?03:16
bob2nooneelse: so, the entire point of apt is that it handles dependencies03:16
bob2nooneelse: if it's not installing dependencies, it's because you pointed it at broken apt sources03:16
kevin_ok.. but if i burn it it will play in a cd player?03:16
nooneelsebob2,  it just says03:16
bob2nooneelse: so, paste the full error, and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood03:16
titaniululznooneelse, don't use backports. :O03:16
bob2kevin_: no03:16
kevin_Well how do i get it to?03:16
vitriolso, i ask again...does anyone know where i can find svn/cvs or whatever of the ubuntu installer?03:16
titaniululzkevin_, convert it to .wav03:16
kevin_How?03:16
vitrioli want to check out a copy of it03:16
nooneelsebob2,   Depends: tcltls but it is not going to be installed03:17
nooneelsetitaniululz,  and what mean to be backports ?03:17
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titaniululzkevin_, i'm not sure how on linux but on windows if you use Winamp you can go to Output -> Disk Writer and it will write it as a .wav instead of playing the song as audio. perhaps XMMS (if you use it) has a similar feature? i don't know, i don't have a souncard on my ubuntu machine03:17
titaniululznooneelse, follow bob's instructions and paste your sources.list in #flood03:18
nooneelsetitaniululz,  ok03:18
titaniululznooneelse, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"03:18
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kevin_i just changed the file to .wav and it says that its a wav file now.. lol that was easy enough hope it works .03:18
bob2nooneelse: so, paste the information I asked for to #flood03:18
titaniululzkevin_, that won't work03:18
bob2kevin_: no, that will not work at all03:18
titaniululzkevin_, what are the files right now03:18
bur[n] er_cat blah.mp3 > blah.wav  <---that work?03:18
titaniululzflac?03:18
bob2kevin_: use k3b or mp3burn to convert it to something you can put on an audio cd03:18
titaniululzbur[n] er_, uhh no03:19
nooneelsebob2,  its in there03:19
kirtisIs anyone else in breezy having their nautilus crash on startup?03:19
bob2bur[n] er_: cat doesn't know how to decode mp3 anymore than mv does03:19
bur[n] er_well cat blah.mpg > blah.??? something works03:19
bob2nooneelse: that's really the entire file?03:19
nooneelsebob2,  yeap03:19
HrdwrBoBbob2: my cat plays mp3s03:19
kevin_the files are .wav now..03:19
bob2bur[n] er_: no it doesn't03:19
bob2kevin_: and still in FLAC format03:19
bob211:18:54 @         bob2 | kevin_: use k3b or mp3burn to convert it to something you can put on an audio cd03:19
kevin_No..03:19
HrdwrBoBbur[n] er_: you are simply renaming the file03:20
bob2kevin_: renaming a file does not change the contents. at all.03:20
titaniululzkevin_, your goal right now is to change the format of the file, not just the extension. ie if it's mp3 or flac right now, it's compressed in a certain way (format). you need to decompress it back to "wav", which is the standard cd audio format. just renaming the files does not decompress it. it's like if you .ZIP a word document and rename the zip file to .doc; you don't get your document back. you have to decompress first.03:20
bur[n] er_nah... i swear... maybe the source was bunk03:20
bob2nooneelse: really?  you actually deleted all the comments from the file?03:20
nooneelsebob2,  ahh sure03:20
nooneelsejust to fit better in paste03:20
kevin_ok..03:20
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kevin_how do i convert it through k3b?03:20
titaniululzkevin_, google for 'linux flac decoder' or something similar. you need to convert your files (which are probably around 5mb each right now) to uncompressed wav files, which will be about 40mb give or take.03:21
bob2nooneelse: so, you neglected to show us the backports apt sources you now have commented out?03:21
titaniululzkevin_, check the help for it on the website, in the program, or try man k3b. i've never used it personally03:21
syndanyone part of orkut03:21
nooneelsebob2, ahh ok i'll paste with the comments03:21
bob2kevin_: install it and try, it's pretty intuitive (or so I hear)03:21
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bob2mp3burn is ridiculously simple, too03:21
nooneelsebob2, now with the comments03:22
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bob2nooneelse: and the error from apt, including the command line you're running03:23
nooneelsebob2, its in there too03:23
titaniululzholy crap the GNOME theme browser is RIDICULOUSLY easy to install/use new themes with; it's ten times easier than windows. i'm impressed :)03:24
adriyeltitan, Linux can be easier or harder to use than Windows, its completely up to the user03:24
adriyelLycoris was drop dead simple03:24
bob2nooneelse: try using archive.ubuntu.com; that should work03:24
titaniululzadriyel, yeah i was especially impressed with Synaptic03:24
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dalamarcould anybody shed some light on this error trying to compile gxmms? Using the wiki's instructions .. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/158703:25
adriyelsynaptic is great step towards GUI package management, I'm also impressed with how stable its gotten in the past year03:25
pfphey, is there any documentation on how booting on raid (R-1) is done in hoary?  i'm familiar with mdadm and the kernel autodetecting swraid arrays, but not with the initrd system hoary uses03:25
nooneelsebob2, how you mean ?03:25
titaniululzadriyel, my only experience with *nix is using a solaris server at school over ssh (CS student). i wasn't expecting what ubuntu turned out to be at all :)03:25
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bob2nooneelse: replace "us.archive.ubuntu.com with "archive.ubuntu.com"03:25
adriyelI've been a Linux user for 3 years, I've seen Linux go from slightly more difficult to EASY cheezy03:25
titaniululzalso the awesome ubuntu community helps a lot03:26
bob2dalamar: gxxms is in ubuntu already...03:26
nooneelsebob2, from all ?03:26
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bob2nooneelse: yeah03:26
kermitvanfroschIs there a DVD-Image of (k)ubunut that conatains both Gnome and KDE?03:26
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adriyeltitaniululuz, I started out with Dos, Windows later on. then my first OS after that was BSD, then I started tinkering with Linux. I've tried nearly every Linux distro and flavor of Unix known to God03:26
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bob2kermitvanfrosch: I'd imagine the ubuntu dvd images contain both03:26
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adriyelI like Linux the best out of the unices, although BSD is arguably better for general purpose servers (Linux is better for clusters)03:27
kevin_how do i convert it with k3b?03:27
nooneelsebob2,  ok i'l'll try03:27
kermitvanfroschI thought they would ... but why are there ubunut AND kubuntu-DVDs?03:27
TimmahDaPso when i copy my files from XP using the live CD... the only other storage i have is empty CD's but the drive is in use =\03:27
adriyelkermit, the difference is the DEFAULT desktop environment, not whats provided03:27
kermitvanfroschSo they bascially contain the same packages? That would be neat :)03:28
pfphmm, my actual problem is, how to tell the (mk)initrd about which raid1 component partition is where..03:28
adriyelyou have to remember, they customize and tightly integrate the GUI's, and put a good deal of effort into doing so. The difference in the iso's is what gets integrated and used by default03:28
bob2kermitvanfrosch: perhaps the defauls just differ03:28
bob2I'm not sure03:28
adriyelbob2, you're correct03:28
adriyelI already said this :( noone listens to me03:28
bob2TimmahDaP: what are you trying to do?03:28
TimmahDaPrecover files from XP on my laptop03:28
kermitvanfroschI listened, just wanted confirmation :)03:28
kermitvanfroschthanks03:28
dalamarbob2, thanks, thats rather silly the wiki still shows the need to compile etc03:29
kermitvanfroschSo I'll get KDE, Gnome AND a live-system ...03:29
adriyelconfirmation? pffft. I wouldn't speak unless I knew of what I speaking of03:29
bob2TimmahDaP: send them over the network, I guess, or buy some usb storage03:29
kermitvanfroschnice :)03:29
adriyelif I don't know, I won't say a d4mn thing03:29
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kermitvanfrosch@adriyel03:29
nooneelsebob2, same thing03:29
kermitvanfroschHow do I know ... I just know you since 5 minutes ;-)03:29
kevin_ok.. i got mp3burn how do i use it?03:29
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adriyelmeh.03:29
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bob2kevin_: you need to have a bit more of a self-starter attitude, dude03:30
kevin_im sorry..03:30
kevin_this is frustrating03:30
bob2kevin_: for instance, "mp3burn --help"03:30
TimmahDaPyeah you're right03:30
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bob2nooneelse: very odd03:30
adriyelkevin_, www.google.com works wonders man, asking for help is ok, but you really gotta spend at least 15-30 min poking around google and seeing if theres quickfix/answer03:30
Buuyo^Hi. Is it possible to /upgrade/ to ubuntu x64 (for em64t or the amd64) from the x86 one without reinstalling?03:31
adriyelthe ubuntu community is extremely helpful, and avoids the typical, RTFM response, but if you push it, you will get slapped with it03:31
bob2Buuyo^: that's not an upgrade, and no03:31
dalamarbob2, would you know how to enable it ater installation? (gxmms)03:31
adriyelBuuyo^, in theory yes, but its not supported03:31
bob2that's a "reinstall the whole system with a different port of the OS"03:31
adriyelyou'd have to replace/recompile everything yourself, kernel and libraries included03:31
Buuyo^yuck :)03:31
adriyelI suggest you do as bob2 suggested, and reinstall03:31
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Buuyo^alright03:32
adriyelthat is of course, unless you're a gentoo user like me and don't care03:32
bob2you can play chroot games if you like, or be very very overeager with dpkg --force-arch03:32
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bob2dalamar: enable it?03:32
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frank_bhi all. can anyone tell which is the file for making permanent "alias" in ubuntu?03:32
dalamarbob2, how?03:32
Buuyo^Thanks :)03:32
adriyelfrank_b, check www.google.com for a script file or something, my memory can't recall it03:32
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adriyelfrank_b, I know for 99% that theres a text file for it though03:32
bob2dalamar: I don't know what you mean by "enable"03:33
bob2dalamar: do you mean "add it to the menu"?03:33
bob2frank_b: a shell alias? /etc/bash.bashrc might be a good choice03:33
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frank_badriyel: I've searched in google... but found referrences to two different files that I can't locate03:33
drewI tried to install kubuntu-desktop, but it now says that I have a broken packages03:33
dalamarbob2, i installed it and theres no command named 'gxmms', looked in xmms plugins not there either03:33
drewhow do I fix this?03:33
bob2drew: you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list and the full output of apt to #flood03:34
rob_pfrank_b:  You can put it in /home/username/.bash_aliases03:34
frank_bbob2: I'll try that one. that one I didn't saw the reference to03:34
adriyelfrank_b, grep/find the files, you've probably already had the answer given to you, aka, grep filename03:34
bob2dalamar: it's an applet, not a program...03:34
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bob2dalamar: you right click on the panel and choose add applet03:34
medamaybedoes anyone know how I can get my trash_can icon back? :)03:34
adriyelif you can't find anything, frank_b , I'll look with google myself, momentarily03:34
smoet_well I found what I was looking for and it's called BUM, Boot Up Manager. I still think it's strange there isn't standard a tool like that in ubuntu.03:34
bob2probably after havign to restart the panel03:34
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bob2medamaybe: n the desktop? with some conf fiddling.03:34
smoet_I don't think desktop users need a mail server running :p03:34
dalamarbob2, thank you, thats what I needed ;)03:34
werykfrank_b: If you use ~/.bash_aliases, you might have to uncomment where that's read from in ~/.bashrc03:34
bob2smoet_: in practice it's not that useful; if you don't want something to run, just don't install it.03:34
medamaybewell, it was on the bottom bar, next to the desktops03:35
medamaybebut I accidently removed it03:35
frank_badriyel: I think I'll try rob_p's suggestion then...03:35
Gattonwhen you get his trash icon back tell me how to get it on the desktop and off the panel heh03:35
kermitvanfroschdo ubunut and kubuntu use the same apt-repositories?03:35
frank_bbetter option..03:35
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bob2kermitvanfrosch: yes03:35
rob_pfrank_b:  Oh, I almost forgot... you might need to uncomment a couple of lines in your .bashrc as well... just open it up and it should be very evident...03:35
Gattonkermitvanfrosch, yes. kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde as the default03:35
frank_bok...03:35
kermitvanfroschThat's what I thought, great :)03:35
kermitvanfroschI think I'll give the kubuntu-dvd a shot ...03:36
medamaybebob2, would you know where I can find these config thingies ?03:36
Gattondvd?03:36
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bob2drew: perhaps a backports problem; try removing them, apt-get update and try aain03:37
kermitvanfroschmainly since I#m used to KDE and don't really like nautilus03:37
kermitvanfroschYes, DVD03:37
drewbob2 okay03:37
smoet_bob2: that's true. but were talking about ubuntu here... these services i wanted to turn off are being installed by default.03:37
adriyelkermitvanfrosch, gnome grows on you, I promise03:37
bob2smoet_: ah, fair enough03:37
kermitvanfroschseems to contain kubuntu + all packages from ubuntu plus a live-kubuntu :)03:37
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Gattonheck i didn't even know they were on dvd03:37
bob2smoet_: postfix will go away eventually03:37
bob2maybe in breezy03:37
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Gattonkermitvanfrosch, cool. good to know. that's very handy!03:38
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dalamargnome rocks ;)03:38
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kermitvanfrosch@adriyel, yes I liked what I saw in the latest 2.11 gnome under suse ...03:38
kairu0hi fellow ubuntu users03:38
kermitvanfrosch... until I broke it completely :S03:38
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smoet_bob2: Aha, that was indeed one of the two that I don't needed.03:39
Gattongnome 2.10 is the nicest i've used. but last night kde called to me again03:39
kermitvanfroschStill, I hate the one-folder-one-window behaviour ...03:39
Gattonit's siren song convinced me to apt-get isntall kubuntu-desktop03:39
Gattonit's a very confusing time for me right now03:39
nooneelsebob2, could u send to me your sources.list ?03:39
dalamarkermitvanfrosch, that is configurable03:39
kermitvanfroschis it now?03:39
dalamaryes03:39
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titaniululzwhat version of gtk and clearlooks does ubuntu hoary ship with? im not sure how to check03:40
dalamaryou can do all viewing in one window03:40
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smoet_But without BUM I wouldn't even know postfix was running on 25.03:40
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kermitvanfroschdoes it also get a sidepanel when I do the one-window-thing?03:40
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cyphasedalamar, yea, i know :)03:40
kermitvanfroschstill like to see my foldertree03:40
HrdwrBoBsmoet_: ... on the localhost03:40
smoet_now I can deinstall it if I wasn't to lazy :p03:40
nooneelsedrew, same error mine03:40
drewbob2, would it matter if I didn't get my GNOME updates yet?03:41
cyphasei just wanna see how many i can get before there's no more space03:41
drewbob2, cause I am just doing my software updates now03:41
bob2nooneelse: that wont help03:41
bob2drew: don't think so03:41
bob2hold on, I'm looking into it03:41
dalamarkermitvanfrosch, yes that is possible03:41
bob2drew: nooneelse i386?03:42
bob2smoet_: it's only listening on loopback, tho03:42
bob2so all it does is consume a bit of swap03:42
drewbob2, that's what the installation said, it told me I was installing i386 kernel03:42
nooneelsebob2, how do I see it ?03:42
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adriyel<--- x86_64 kernel + libs +apps :P bishes.03:42
nooneelseops03:42
nooneelseuanem03:42
bob2nooneelse: uname -a03:42
smoet_Hmm yeah, i missed that part03:42
kermitvanfroschMhhh, I guess ti should be easy to switch between KDE and Gnome on (k)ubuntu ...03:42
nooneelsebob2,  Linux nooneelse 2.6.10-5-38603:42
bob2ok03:42
Gattonkermitvanfrosch, yep it is. just apt-get install whichever one you don't have. then it will show up in your gdm (or kdm)03:43
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Gattonat least it did for me03:43
kermitvanfroschthat's why I'm getting the dvd with both :)03:44
bob2so03:44
bob2I manually checked, and the archive is ok03:44
Gattonkermitvanfrosch, good idea :)03:44
dalamarbad part is for installation of both with same user the menu of the other still shows up and vice versa .. though you can change that with smeg or something similar03:44
mic_how do i upgrade my gnupg 1.2.4 to gnupg 1.4.2 in ubuntu 5.04?03:44
robotgeekdoes anyone know a reliable way to start network manager applet when i login into gnome. for nm-applet to run, it needs to be run as root03:44
bob2mic_: why do you want to do that?03:44
mic_because 1.4.2 is the latest and i don't know if my keys can still work with 1.2.403:45
medamaybeso any suggestions on how to get my trash can back? I tried to search but I can't find it :)03:45
adriyelomg, you lost your trash can? thats AWESOME03:45
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bob2mic_: try it and see03:45
dalamarmedamaybe, on desktop or taskbar?03:45
bob2it's unlikely it won't03:45
adriyelno sarcasm medamaybe , that really is awesome03:45
bob2medamaybe: it's a gconf setting03:45
adriyeldalamar, I think he removed/deleted it03:46
bob2have you looked yet?03:46
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dalamarouch03:46
kermitvanfroschHow paionful is switching from suse to (k)ubuntu going to be?03:46
adriyelhe's gonna hafta add it manually03:46
kermitvanfroschdeleted the trashcan?03:46
adriyelmeh, so to speak @ kermitvanfrosch03:46
kermitvanfroschmaby its still in the trashcan then?03:46
mic_bob2: i'm using SHA512 will it still work with 1.2.403:46
Gattonkermitvanfrosch, i went from Suse 9.2 to ubuntu and haven't missed anything03:46
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dalamaryour spose to delete whats IN the trashcan, not the trashcan itself ;)03:46
adriyelSuSE is, dodgy, in some of its apps.03:46
robotgeekheck, i went from OS X to ubuntu, and prefer it!03:46
bob2mic_: no idea; read the changelog or try it03:46
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drewbob2, is there a command I can use to find broken packages on my system?03:46
bob2mic_: if you really think you need a newer one, download the source and compile it to /usr/local/03:47
adriyelI'm installing Ubuntu on my g/f's Mac soon03:47
kermitvanfroschI like the way SuSE 10 seems to be going ...03:47
bob2drew: try installing anything with apt03:47
kermitvanfrosch... and I like a the little details in SuSE#03:47
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adriyelkermitvanfrosch, I have the x86_64 beta1 of SuSE 10 collecting dust03:47
drewbob2, like, just pick something randomly?03:47
kermitvanfroschautomount of all my windows partitions03:47
Gattonkermitvanfrosch, me too. i'll be checking out the release of 10 on a spare drive03:47
mic_bob2: i found 1.4.2 gnupg in breezy. can i download those and just compile it to work?03:47
bob2drew: or just do what you were doing before03:47
drewbob2, okay03:47
bob2drew: amarok is certainly in ubuntu, tho03:47
kermitvanfroschqute-like-widgets for all gtk+ apps and vice-versa03:47
bob2mic_: the source package, probably03:47
mic_bob2: oki thanks, i'll try it03:48
drewbob2, it says that I need amarok, right?03:48
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Gattonkermitvanfrosch, if you use kde make sure you install gtk-qt to make your gtk apps use look better under kde03:48
bob2drew: yes, but I don't know why it can't install it; perhaps reverting to a default sources.list with 'sudo apt-setup' would fix it for no reason03:48
carambolat bootup i getthis err messg: Temporiry name resolution ..[failed] 03:48
kermitvanfroschwhere do I find information about ubuntu repositories?03:48
n17r0Hi anyone know a good file manager like total commander on windows?03:48
Gatton!repositories03:48
ubotuwell, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:48
drewbob2, what do you mean exactly?  Can you give me specific instruction?03:49
bob2carambol: caused by not being connected to the network when you boot03:49
kermitvanfroschI found out about universe and multivers ... just not the diofference yet :)03:49
bob2drew: run "sudo apt-setup".  try to install kubuntu. enjoy.03:49
kermitvanfroschthanks ubotu :)03:49
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carambolut i am not at a network, cable connection03:49
bob2kermitvanfrosch: universe = unsupported free software, multiverse = unsupported non-free software03:49
bob2carambol: anyway, ignore it03:49
drewbob2, okay03:49
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Gattonbob2, thanks. i was fuzzy on that too03:50
carambolbuob2: but i have a small login screen03:50
dalamarlol, heres a question, had kde installed, changed the color scheme, removed it, now k3b in gnome still has the same scheme, can I change it to stock without reinstalling kde? ;)03:50
Gattonanyone had the cojones to try capture?03:50
drewbob2, will it matter that my software updates are going?03:50
bob2get rid of your kde settings03:50
bob2drew: I don't know what you mean by that03:50
carambolbob2 a small white screen ,telling me to configure it03:50
bob2carambol: that's too vague for me to guess what you mean03:51
bob2someone needs to write a "how to ask useful ubuntu questions" guide that's not as patronisign as esr's thing03:51
drewbob2, nevermind, my comp answered that question for me03:51
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carambolbob2 i cant use the login-screen options03:51
luihello!03:52
carambolonlybob2:03:52
n17r0Hi anyone know a good file manager like "total commander" on windows?03:52
TimmahDaPbob2:  i'd have to hack my own wireless network to transfer the files..........03:52
kermitvanfroschDoes anyone know how painful upgrading to breeze badger is going to be?03:52
bob2carambol: ok...03:52
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kermitvanfroschIs it better to already go for the badger on a clean install?03:52
bob2kermitvanfrosch: I wouldn't do it now unless you want to report bugs03:52
bob2no03:52
bob2TimmahDaP: ok03:53
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carambolthe conf file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running hte default command. Plz fix your configuration.03:53
kermitvanfroschI don't mean upgrading now :)03:53
dalamardistro upgrading is supposed to be fairly easy with ubuntu i would just wait until the official breezy release03:53
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smoetso if you are running a service that listens to localhost or *:* you can't see that with a scan from outside?03:54
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kermitvanfroschI mean: since I want to set up my new system now ... maybe its nice to just go for the badger already instead of going through a noit-so-sooth upgrade process once its final03:54
bob2kermitvanfrosch: when breezy comes out, read the upgrade notes and upgrade, it will be no different to reinstalling03:54
bob2except for not wasting time03:54
kermitvanfroschok03:54
caramboli cant use the polished screens (login)...only  a improvised little white sreen03:54
bob2this is based on deabin, upgrades should be painless03:54
caramboli am in breezy,bob203:54
juanejdamn, i just restarted xfce (ctrl + alt + backspace) and now evrything is just like when i installed it, and the font is too small, i barely can see03:55
bob2there yo ugo then03:55
bob2welcome to unstable!03:55
smoetnvm... if it doesn't listen to the internet it can't be seen from the internet lol03:55
carambolthis problem exist after dist-upgrade03:55
bob2carambol: then file a bug03:55
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carambolok03:56
kevin_still no luck i cant figure it out ..03:56
kevin_:(03:56
Gattoncan someone remind me the command to use after updating your fstab so it re-loads it on the fly?03:56
iotc247I have a question. Does anyone know how to get firefox-trunk to replace the firefox package that is in breezy...03:56
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bob2kevin_: eh?03:56
kermitvanfroschis there a repository for hoary with current packages? Like KDE 3.4.2 or amaroK 1.4 ?03:56
kevin_i still cant figure out how to convert the flac to wav.03:56
bob2mp3burn -o dev=/dev/hdc path/to/flac/files/03:57
bob2kermitvanfrosch: if you want a stable distro, use a stable distro03:57
kermitvanfroschsorry, amarok 1.3 :)03:57
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kermitvanfroschwell, it's stable and final software ...03:58
bob2no03:58
TimmahDaPthanx for the help03:59
n17r0Hi anyone know a good file manager like "total commander" on windows?03:59
kermitvanfroschamaroK 1.3 is final and stable ... just interested how long it takes to be integrated into (k)ubuntu03:59
kevin_is there a partition magic type program on linux?03:59
avanspronsenkermitvanfrosch: have you tried backports?04:00
avanspronsen!backports04:00
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section04:00
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kermitvanfroschbeatiful :)04:00
adriyel!help04:00
adriyel!lobotomy04:01
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ubotuadriyel: I don't know04:01
drewbob2, it asked me for a ubuntu disk, I put in the install CD, but it says it's a non ubuntu disk04:01
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adriyelubotu is a sweet bot.04:01
ubotuadriyel: I don't know, could you explain it?04:01
steveO_Laptophello all04:01
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dabarhi.04:01
snareguycouple new-guy questions for you... trying to install some ati adapters... just need to know how to execute either a .run file or a .deb file04:01
beabeancahai all04:01
adriyelubotu, I love you04:01
ubotuadriyel: I give up, what is it?04:01
dabarsnareguy: .debs are to be installed.04:02
adriyelits frickin cool ubotu04:02
paulproteuslol, adriyel04:02
adriyelpaulproteus, I love that bot.04:02
bob2drew: get rid of it from /etc/apt/sources.list04:02
beabeancacan somebody help me here04:02
dalamarubotu is the coolest!04:02
ubotudalamar: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:02
bob2snareguy: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:02
drewbob2, get rid of what?04:02
adriyelubotu is the sh1t04:02
ubotuadriyel: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:02
dalamaronly in holland04:02
beabeancaim newbie04:02
beabeancain ubuntu04:02
adriyelthank you ubotu, I appreciate being insulted by you04:02
steveO_Laptop? how do I re-configure my hardware from command line?04:02
snareguydabar: thanks, i am recieving some errors when i try and extract and execute the archive04:02
Tortelsame04:02
dabarsnareguy: sudo dpkg -i file.deb. Do not install files that you dont know what they are, nor if they are debvian, or other distro .debs, only  ubuntu debs, ior ask here b4 you isntall.04:02
kevin_how do you resize the partition with ubuntu ?04:03
kevin_Without having to re-install everyting?04:03
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dalamarvery carefully04:03
snareguyok.. trying right now04:03
adriyelor you could be 1337 and install it by source :D :D :D04:03
adriyel./configure make make install04:03
dabarsnareguy: other executable files, like .run can be run in several ways. but you first need to make them executable, chmod +x file.run,  and man chmod to learn more.04:03
beabeancahow to run samba in ubuntu04:03
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avanspronsen!samba04:04
ubotusamba is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently04:04
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adriyel!w00t04:04
ubotuNot a clue, adriyel04:04
adriyeldarn.04:04
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dabarsnareguy: then you can either in a terminal sh file.run or ./file.run if you are in its dir, or you can even double click it through nautilus.04:04
adriyel!adriyel04:04
dalamaryou crazy dual boot kids04:04
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, adriyel04:04
adriyel!anger04:04
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ubotuadriyel: I don't know04:04
dalamarcommit dammit!04:04
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drewbob2, get rid of what?04:04
dabar!msg the bot04:04
adriyel!bin04:04
ubotu[msg the bot]  please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please.04:04
ubotuadriyel: Are you on ritalin?04:04
avanspronsen!spam04:04
ubotuavanspronsen: Are you smoking crack?04:04
nate_Does anybody know of a faster way to rip music from a cd to your hard drive then through Music player?04:04
adriyel!clutter04:05
ubotuNot a clue, adriyel04:05
adriyellol...04:05
dalamarsound juicer04:05
snareguythank you DABAR04:05
dabarwelcome.04:05
avanspronsenadriyel: easy with the bot man04:05
drewbob2, get rid of what?04:05
adriyelI should code an IRC bot, kkz avanspronsen ...bots just amuse me04:05
nate_Sound Jucier is too slow also =\04:05
OrbordeI'm trying to get the 32-bit version of Firefox installed on my Ubuntu 64-bit system, and I can only find it as an RPM. Should I use Synaptic to remove my current Firefox version and then install the new Firefox by converting the rpm to a deb and then installing it? Or is this utterly loony?04:05
nate_thats what I meant, actually04:05
adriyelOrborde, just update Firefox with synaptic and be done with it04:06
dalamarnate_, this is all dependent on your drive your ripping from too obviously04:06
steveO_Laptop? how do I re-configure my hardware from command line?04:06
adiabaticI put the 5.04 Live CD in my old gateway and everything seems to be fine, but it's not running my 1024x768 flat panel at its native resolution on my ATI 3D Rage LT Pro. How can I find out if the Dead CD (sorry) can tweak X's setup to use the proper resolution?04:06
Orbordeadriyel: Um....what do you mean? Synaptic gives me 64-bit Firefox...I think....04:06
nate_Yeah, but its a good drive, both the harddrive and the dvd burner =\04:06
adriyeladditionally, Orborde , you might want to delete or move the file libflash-mozplugin.so out of your firefox directory04:06
dabarsteveO_Laptop: like what?04:06
dalamarnate_, us dma on for the drive?04:07
adriyelI don't know if Synaptic gives you a 64 bit version of Firefox, but frankly man, does it bloody matter?04:07
adriyelits a web browser Orborde , not a physics simulator04:07
beabeanca? what command to run any program in ubuntu root terminal :??04:07
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n17r0Hi anyone know a good file manager like "total commander" on windows?04:07
nate_dma? dalamar?04:07
dabarbeabeanca: that is too non-specific to be answered,04:07
HrdwrBoBnautilus04:07
adriyelbesides, 64bit apps eat more memory space, which is more important with a web browser than OMG WEB PAGE LOADED IN 0.01ms INSTEAD OF 0.015ms04:07
dalamarreplicant? where's a bladerunner when you need them? ;)04:07
dalamar!dma04:07
Orbordeadriyel: I want Flash to work. It doesn't get along with 64-bit Firefox AFAIK, but I dunno.04:07
n17r0no other one, not nautilus04:07
adriyelwhat makes you think theres a 64bit flash plugin? *laughs*04:08
steveO_Laptopdabar,  I install ubuntu on my comapaq then put that harddrive back into a older computer so we need to reconfigure all hardware04:08
adriyelask macromedia if they've compiled a 64bit plugin, or if they'll give you the source to do it...*chuckle*04:08
dalamarnate_, makes the drives go faster, might not be enabled, its in the wiki04:08
nate_well I'll just have to deal with whatI got I guess, but it takes about an hour a cd =\04:08
beabeancaok nvm04:08
dabarI dont have a clue what you mean, maybe I am just not knowledgeable, or you should learn about ask... steveO_Laptop. /msg ubotu ask.04:08
dalamaran hour? WOW04:08
Orbordeadriyel: I know there isn't. But I gather that running 32bit Firefox might work.04:08
adriyelin theory.04:09
adriyelI've had experience with the bug you're talking about04:09
dalamarmy drive is crap and it takes like 20 minutes to half an hour04:09
adriyelI did a gdb backtrace04:09
adriyelits possible it might still crash/not work with a 32bit Firefox04:09
adriyelso, it might be all in vain04:09
nate_dalamar, could you link it?04:09
adriyeladditionally, not using synaptic with a distro as heavily modified as Ubuntu, is, unwise, to say the least04:09
beabeanca? i need build homepage in ubuntu...what software can i use for editing html file..like dreamviewer..ex.04:09
D1nvu04:10
dabar!nvu04:10
uboturumour has it, nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.04:10
medamaybeanyone know how I can get my trashcan on my taskbar back? :)04:10
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adriyelif you're sudo'ing or using root, its a good way to kill your Linux install04:10
cafuegobeabeanca: Try nvu. it's still a bit shit, though.04:10
dalamarnate_, toss a '!dma' in channel and ubotu will04:10
Orbordeadriyel: Okay.04:10
adriyelWYSIWYG04:10
drewI searched amarok on my Synaptic and marked it for installation, but it keeps saying that all the packages related to it including it will not be installed, what's wrong?04:10
beabeanca?nvu04:10
beabeancahow to run it04:10
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nate_!dma04:10
iiiearsmozilla web editor04:10
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dalamardrew, i get same prob, think that site may have pooped04:11
cafuegobeabeanca: See what ubotu said about 12 lines ago?04:11
steveO_Laptopdabar, I have a old laptop with no cdrom so I took the harddrive out and put it into my compacq and installed ubuntu on it then placed that harddrive and booted it up on the old laptop now just need to reconfig the hard ware] 04:11
adriyelOrborde, if you're that thirsty for Flash, try a different browser to Firefox until the plugin gets fixed, I believe it will get fixed with 5.10/breezy, for now, see if any other browsers support a 64bit flash plugin (opera?)04:11
drewdalamar, so what now then?04:11
adriyel!opera04:11
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adriyel[opera]  a very powerful and speedy web browser with a superfluity of features while placing stress upon visual aesthetics. Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get more information at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser04:11
dalamardrew, its not installed ;) i dont know04:11
durtopera is god04:11
adriyelopera is propietary.04:11
dalamarmeh04:11
adriyelits demi-god.04:11
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dalamarit has its uses04:11
adriyelFirefox is uber-hero04:12
iiiearsa little pay for good programming isn't always a bad thing.04:12
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beabeanca?? :|04:12
dabarsteveO_Laptop: never knew that can be done. I really dont know.04:12
durtthe little ad bar is not too annoying04:12
vladuz976how do i add a dir to my path?04:12
dalamarmeh the banners arent a big deal at all04:12
iiiearsfirefox was helped by being associated with aol.04:12
dabarbeabeanca: there are two links above if you scroll up a little with help for you...04:12
drewis debian anywhere near as easy to install as ubuntu?04:13
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dabardrew: sure, maybe.04:13
beabeancaok im try04:13
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steveO_Laptopdabar, lol yes  have done it many times just not with ubuntu04:13
drewdabar, like, is it a self guided installation like ubuntu, or is it complicated like gentoo?04:13
cafuegoWhat's the tool for converting JPEG sequences to MPEG?04:13
steveO_Laptoppower of linux rocks04:13
dalamarfirefox wa assoiated with aol? news to me .. aol is like dinosaur shit04:13
Gattonaol bought netscape04:13
dabardrew: have you asked at #debian?04:13
Gattonnetscape begat mozilla which begat firefox04:14
Gattonthus endeth the history lesson04:14
kermitvanfroschWait, did I get that right?04:14
iiiearslol04:14
juanejdsa04:14
kermitvanfroschFirefox is 64bit default on the x86-64 version of hoary?04:14
dalamarso firefox is slow because netscape always was, i see04:14
dabarGatton: thanks, I actually learned something from your history lesson...04:14
cafuegokermitvanfrosch: Yes, of course.04:14
dabarthe present part...04:14
kermitvanfrosch:-S04:14
cafuego(it's also broken on breezy x86_64 atm)04:15
kevmanHey, I'm still trying to apt-get Hoary. Now I got this error: * (process:9228): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed04:15
Gatton<Dr Zoidberg> Yay I'm helping!04:15
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kermitvanfroschI don't like that ... hardly any plugin works in 64bit firefox ...04:15
dalamarwoob woob woob woob!04:15
paulproteuscafuego: mjpegtools, iirc04:15
kermitvanfroschthat's why suse has 32bit default even in the 64bit version04:15
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paulproteusThat's the package name.04:15
cafuegokermitvanfrosch: Nobody is forcing you to run a 64bit install.04:15
dalamarfuturama owns us all04:15
jonohow can I find out which files processes are working on?04:15
paulproteuscafuego: I think I recognize your nick from #debian-kde back in the day.04:15
paulproteusjono: lsof or fopen04:15
paulproteusjono: or ls /proc/$PID/fd/04:16
kermitvanfroschI do want a 64bit install ... I have to university-tools that highly benefit from this ...04:16
adriyelsigh.04:16
kermitvanfroschtwo04:16
cafuegopaulproteus: #debian maybe,04:16
paulproteuscafuego: Ah, perhaps it's that.04:16
adriyelkermitvanfrosch, what tools?04:16
kermitvanfroschI just don't want a 64bit firefox :s04:16
adriyelmeesa curious.04:16
jonopaulproteus, is there a way to find out which files the process using the most cpu is using?04:16
naliothcafuego: have i seen you on the post office wall?04:16
cafuegokermitvanfrosch: then install a 32bit one in a chroot.04:16
paulproteusjono: top + lsof , I guess.04:16
adriyelkermitvanfrosch, do a source install, set the CFLAGS manually. do it the gentoo way!04:16
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durtim on breezy and i cant get nvidia-glx to install: synaptic says "to be removed libglu1-mesa", then it says it depends on libglu1-mesa. whats going on here?04:16
cafuegoWhich retard added FreeFormats to the RestrictedFormats wiki page?04:17
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durt!nvidia-glx04:17
ubotudurt: Wish i knew04:17
steveO_Laptopok lets try this How do I reconfig X from command line?04:17
adriyelcafuego, the same retard that didn't add restricted formats into the install CD, why?04:17
kermitvanfroschJust two small math-applications ... written by a professor of mine ...04:17
adriyelinteresting, have you compiled/optimized them yet?04:17
nate_uh...someone using Mozilla, go to greenday.com04:17
iiiearssudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:17
cafuegoadriyel: It suggests Ogg Vorbis/Theora (not used by anone, really) is all you need.04:18
nate_tell me if they can see the main page news =\04:18
adriyelmay I have those apps, and check out the source, or are they restricted?04:18
adriyelGPL?04:18
TraceGreen Hello, can anyone help me with my bootsplash? i can just see blank screen when boot, and after X start, i check /proc/bootsplash,"Splash screen v3.1.6-2004/03/31 (0xf0, 640x480): off")04:18
iiiears!resolution04:18
ubotumethinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:18
adriyelcafuego, LOL, ogg is all you need....yeah...right...if you're a game developer and all you do is produce games maybe...04:18
kermitvanfroschhe did ... according to what I know they are suppose to run MUCh slwoer on 32bit ...04:18
capisloquehey, how do i change to 800x600 withoyt the elements of the screen becomind extremely big ?04:18
adriyelkermitvanfrosch, are they GPL'ed?04:18
kermitvanfroschnope04:18
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adriyelthat doesn't mean I can tinker with the executables or the source does it?04:19
kermitvanfroschwell, not yet at least ...04:19
adriyelI've been delving into assembly, and tinkering with optimization s04:19
adriyeloptimizations04:19
kermitvanfroschno tinkering yet, don't have the sourcecode04:19
kermitvanfroschdont know if I ever will04:19
adriyelI'm basically aiming to cheat on the pov-ray benchmark.04:19
adriyelOOH, I need to install that!04:19
adriyel*just remembered*04:19
HrdwrBoBkermitvanfrosch: what charset are you using?04:19
adriyelkermitvanfrosch, could you possibly finagle him into GPL'ing it?04:20
kermitvanfroschgood question04:20
kermitvanfroschthis is mirc under XP04:20
kermitvanfroschsome students already tried ot explain the benefits of that ...04:21
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kermitvanfrosch... I don't think he really cares that much about it04:21
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adriyel*sigh*04:21
adriyelwhat do these apps do?04:21
paulproteuskermitvanfrosch: You should get him to BSD-license it.04:21
adriyel(I'll consider it a coding challenge) BSD license might be useful04:21
adriyelbecause then I can steal the code, and sell the apps for money04:22
paulproteusFearmonger him into thinking that without a license, people will hold him responsible for warranty stuff.04:22
kermitvanfroschhe wrote his own "license" ... in five sentences ...04:22
adriyelpaulproteus, YES, BRING ON THE ACADEMIC FUD!04:22
paulproteusadriyel: Heh, thanks. ;)04:22
adriyel :)04:22
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adriyelkermitvanfrosch, can you briefly tell me what these two apps simulate/calculate?04:22
adriyelagain, I'd like to see if I could code something that does it04:23
adriyeland then opti-mah-size the sh1z out of it, gentoo style (lolz)04:23
kermitvanfroschwait a second, I can give you his website ... its German though04:23
adriyelwww.blah.de eh?04:23
adriyel(bring it on, google.com's translator will pwn your weak site :P )04:23
paulproteuss/weak site/weak language/04:24
beabeancaok gys have a good day bye!!04:24
paulproteusbeabeanca: Bye!04:24
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kermitvanfroschArgh, I hate that ... half of the university-websites are offline ...04:24
kermitvanfroschthey are re-doing the website ... since about 4 weeks now ...04:24
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iiiearstoo many p2p client servers04:25
kermitvanfrosch... since its semester-"vacation" now04:25
adriyelkermitvanfrosch,04:25
adriyelcrap.04:25
adriyelok04:25
adriyelseriously, can you just tell me, or is it that bloody involved?04:25
P8ntKid!wine04:25
kermitvanfroschall they did so far is take about half of it offline and make all the "new" things unaccessible :S04:25
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adriyeljust giving me a brief description will tell me if its out of my league04:25
kermitvanfroschI get a password-request on: http://fhwww.tzm-giessen.de/04:25
adriyelI do too04:26
adriyelhow gay.04:26
adriyel(Brief descrip pretty plz?)04:26
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kermitvanfroschone second :)04:26
adriyelkkz, thx04:27
adriyeloh...mah...gosh04:27
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adriyelI unzipped a file, with a 64bit proggie04:28
adriyelit was instantaneous04:28
adriyelYES!!! :) :) :)04:28
kermitvanfroschboth are basically about prime-number-crunching ... trying to find some short definitions ...04:28
Kyral!prelink04:28
ubotuKyral: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:28
kermitvanfroschand translating them :)04:28
adriyelum, trying to find prime numbers up to a certain limit?04:28
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adriyelbased upon an algorithm developed by someone?04:28
kermitvanfroschnopw, there are plenty of that :)04:28
supernix anyone know about any conflict with hotplug in the latest kernel image ?04:28
adriyeleh04:29
kermitvanfroschdammit, I have problembs translating things like primzahlzerlegung ....04:29
adriyelwhat kind of prime number crunching, are we talking encryption related?04:29
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kermitvanfroschyep04:29
adriyeleh.04:29
adriyelare we talking about the factorization of primes?04:29
kermitvanfroschalmost04:30
adriyelalmost?04:30
kermitvanfroschthat's at least a big part of it ...04:30
P8ntKiddoes anybody know anyother mirrors to download Wine? Cuase the wine.sourforge.net/apt mirror doesnt work04:30
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durtwhy do you need wine?04:30
durtits a pain04:30
kermitvanfroschdammit ... I need to clean up my university-file-folder :)04:30
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smoetthanks for the help everyone, bye04:31
adriyeldammit04:31
adriyelI dun think pov-ray is open source04:31
Kyralubotu prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink04:31
ubotuKyral: okay04:31
adriyelSOB>04:31
Kyral!prelink04:31
ubotumethinks prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink04:31
GattonP8ntKid, the Wine from the ubuntu repositories worked fine for me04:31
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Kyralgood bot04:31
Kyral!botsnack04:31
ubotu:)04:31
GattonKyral, good addition thanks :)04:31
durt!homosexuals04:31
ubotudurt: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:31
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P8ntKidGatton, Those repos that conatin wine arnt up04:31
GattonP8ntKid, oops didn't realize. got mine the other day04:32
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jessidthanks God for sending men and women who wrote and write Ubuntu Linux...to save humanity from hell...ups! Micro$oft04:32
kermitvanfrosch@adriyel If I do decide to install ubuntu (and it seriously looks like it) I'll be back more often to this channel04:33
adriyel*nods*04:33
kermitvanfroschwill give you more information as soon as the website is back up04:33
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adriyelI typically just sit here, since I never reboot into windows04:33
dabardurt, how about your stinkbox?04:33
adriyelkermitvanfrosch, I take great pleasure in optimizing the utter crap out of any proggie I can get my hands on04:33
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kermitvanfroschI'm pretty sure there is a LOT to optimize ...04:33
jessidsome of you know a program to save an entire web site, for example if I want to save a good tutorial, or something like that???04:34
adriyelI can offer alternative suggestions for a 64bit environment to run these applications in, but atm, I would suggest Ubuntu unless you're an experienced Linux user04:34
adriyelkermitvanfrosch, that depends on the program, some programs don't have much to be optimized, some do04:34
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kermitvanfrosch... I know those programms written by my professors ... most of them are just plain horrible ...04:34
kermitvanfroschone love to write java-programms ... that use all the cpu-power they can get all the time ...04:35
qatsihello everybody, im having trubble with the sound here. Fresh new install of Hoary with all upgrades.........volume levels are ok, and its playing a mp3....but i dont have sound....any idea ? thanx04:35
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kermitvanfroschWell, at the moment I'm using SuSE 9.4 64bit ...04:36
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kermitvanfrosch9.304:36
sjgsuse...uhg...04:36
sjgI dont like suse :P04:36
kermitvanfroschdammit, those numbers are just right next to each other, how irritating04:36
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knowledge_what's the command to find out how many files (total) are in my home dir?04:37
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factotumi tried suse 6.3 when that came out, wasn't that bad at the time otherwise no opinion either way04:37
kermitvanfroschWell, I do like that there is 64bit and 32bit firefox on suse and 32bit is default so there is no problem wth plugins ...04:37
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factotumknowledge_, in a recursive way including sub directories?04:38
kermitvanfroschIf firefox is 64bit default in hoary that looks like quite a problem04:38
knowledge_factotum, yeap sir04:39
factotumsorry for the let down, but not sure04:39
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knowledge_factotum, it's cool04:39
mic_bob2: tnx got my gnupg updated n working04:39
knowledge_no worries04:39
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dracflamlocwhat typically takes more ram, gnome or kde?04:39
sjgkde imo04:40
nate_Anybody in here good with gaim?04:40
qatsikde i think...04:40
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sjgkde seems like a kludge04:40
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paulproteusnate_: Sure.04:40
qatsiuse fluxbox, runs like hell :)04:40
dracflamloclol04:40
dracflamlocyea i've used fluxbox04:40
adriyelfluxbox is actually slow04:40
dracflamlockinda not in the mood for it atm04:40
dracflamlocand blackbox04:40
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adriyeluse enlightenment if you want purespeed, although flux/bb are good for low memory usage04:40
adriyelit depends on how many windows you'll have open at the same time04:41
dracflamlocenlihgtenment eh04:41
nate_paulproteus: I can't see any of my yahoo friends avatars, at all, and this is a fresh Ubuntu installation.04:41
dracflamlocnever tried it04:41
adriyelE17 no mods is the fastest window manager, but its not my fav04:41
nate_Would you have any idea?04:41
qatsiadriyeln strange, when i used to use fluxbox, it was very good....it might be because it was gentoo04:41
jessidsome of you know the name of a good program to download an entire web site. For example a tutotial, or something like that??? thanks04:42
iiiearshttp://www.linux.com/howtos/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x700.shtml    <- counting files?04:42
adriyelqatsi, no fluxbox is fast, and works nice04:42
paulproteusnate_: Hmm, I don't know about Yahoo at all.  Try #gaim04:42
jtan325anyone here done ubuntu packaging/maintaining before?04:42
paulproteusqatsi: I use xfce4 when I want something light.04:42
paulproteusjtan325: I've built debs before.04:43
adriyelqatsi, but if you benchmarked it, you'd find its one of the slowest window managers for "draw time" and "draw latency" and "max load"04:43
paulproteusI read the Debian New Maintainers Guide, and it was fairly easy.04:43
jtan325yeah04:43
adriyelagain, I like fluxbox better than E16/E1704:43
jtan325i am getting this package ready for upload04:43
jtan325i am trying to figure out this versioning though04:43
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qatsiadriyel uhmm, i see :)......at the moment, im using gnome for ubuntu, and kde for gentoo.....kde 3.4 is great.....04:43
jtan325should the source folder be named, i.e. conky-1.3.0-0ubuntu104:43
bimberiknowledge_: du | wc -l   <-- while in the come directory - not sure if exact but should be fairly close04:43
R3b00they guys!!04:43
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adriyelI used to be a KDE user04:44
qatsihey04:44
jtan325and then "conky" is the package name, and the rest is the version?04:44
adriyelnow I use Gnome/Flux04:44
R3b00tgot a poblem with doom304:44
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adriyelhi sean_04:44
qatsiadriyel what distro do you use.....( apart from ubuntu)04:44
adriyelGentoo/Slackware/Ubuntu mostly04:44
jtan325paulproteus, any ideas?04:44
adriyeldepends on what I am doing04:44
R3b00tat starting I've got this: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)04:44
nate_Nobody is saying anything in #gaim, its like a dead, lol.04:44
bimberiknowledge_: s/come/home     :)04:45
R3b00tany1 knows why?04:45
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claudeHi, Anyone know how can I use my DVI output instead of my D-Sub (or VGA) output ?04:45
nate_Well since #gaim is dead, would anybody else know?04:45
volvoguyhey all. i just got another hand-me-down machine today with two identical hard drives. does anyone know of a *working* how-to for setting up a bootable raid array? hoary and breezy installers seem to choke on the boot manager.04:45
knowledge_bimberi, thank you kindly04:46
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iiiearsls -R /etc | wc -l                   count + recurse04:46
vladuz976how is ubuntu differnent from debian?04:46
P8ntKidArg, can someone help me with some apt repos04:46
adriyelvolvoguy, you're prolly screwed. You gotta have a RAID enabled motherboard. Sorry.04:46
dabarvolvoguy: ask ubotu about raid, if you have not yet.04:46
qatsiadriyel, great.....i had red hat for 5 minutes....i hated it......after that, i jumped to gentoo, and after many years of not doing anything in linux, i started with ubuntu, and againwith gentoo04:46
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nate_Does anybody else have the problem in gaim were you can't see your YIM friends avatars?04:47
cyphase*sigh*04:47
adriyelRed Hat was my first distro qatsi , it was my first hatred too.04:47
P8ntKidLets say the link to the packages i want is http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/hoary/   How could i get that into the apt sources list without it giving me an error?04:47
bimberiiiiears: ls -R produces a number of blank lines and multiple files per line (for me anyways)04:47
adriyelI like portage...what can I say?04:47
cyphasewhen is ubuntu going to have good ntfs support?04:47
volvoguyadriyel, thanks. i figured it might be a "chicken or the egg" scenario. i could put one boot partition at the beginning of one drive and a swap at the beginning of the other and then use the rest for RAID though right?04:47
Nuckin_Futshello04:48
adriyelthat and uber opta-mah-zations04:48
bimberiknowledge_: yvw :)04:48
Agrajagcyphase: when linux has good ntfs support04:48
cyphaseyea, i meant linux :)04:48
iiiearsHuh? - i got a count of like 5,28604:48
adriyelvolvoguy, is your mobo RAID enabled or not?04:48
volvoguydabar, yeah. i've scoured the wiki, guides and google already. thus my highlight of the word "working" how-to. :)04:48
Nuckin_FutsI've tried about everything, but I can04:48
Nuckin_Futscant04:48
Agrajagoh, then when microsoft releases documentation for it04:48
volvoguyadriyel, nope.04:48
Nuckin_Futsget my sound to work04:48
qatsiadriyel, im trying to get into FreeBSD, but im afraid i wont understand a thing :p04:48
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Agrajagand stops making it a moving target for reverse engineers04:48
Nuckin_Futsits very choppy04:48
dabarvolvoguy: I had suspected that is what it meant, thus the "if you had not"...04:49
volvoguyadriyel, but if the boot partition is not part of the raid array, it should theoretically boot i think.04:49
nate_"Red Hat was my first distro qatsi , it was my first hatred too." <-----Same here, I hated Red Hat, and because of that I hated Linux for awhile, but now that I've tried Ubuntu, I am now in mad love with Linux.04:49
paulproteusAgrajag: Captive NTFS is good.04:49
adriyelvolvoguy, then forget about RAID anything, just divvie up your partitions/parts of the root file system, putting the SWAP on the other drive might marginally help performance04:49
adriyelcaptive-ntfs with write capabilities is good04:49
Agrajagpaulproteus: that's not good support in linux though, that's a hack using drivers from windows04:49
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adriyelvolvoguy, if your mobo isn't RAID enabled, there is NO raid array04:49
volvoguyadriyel, i have several machines doing software raid and perform great. i've just never tried *booting* from one.04:50
qatsinate_: uhmm, i dont love so much ubuntu...i mean, its great....but idont feel like i have control :P04:50
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iiiearsNo mystery in why they chose RED for the hat color. - red hat is bleeding edge painful. - the rpm and repos are difficult also04:50
dabarnate_: you have too ctrong feelings toward OSes.04:50
adriyelahhh, software RAID04:50
adriyelme understands now04:50
adriyelyou never clarified04:51
qatsinate_: if you hated Red Hat, try using windows :p04:51
Milkheya... anyone have time to help me with a cups problem04:51
dabarlove and hate should be practised in very small doses, and also not toward OSes, afaik.04:51
adriyelmeh...you should be fine booting from it04:51
adriyeljust make sure it boots04:51
adriyelfom04:51
adriyelfrom04:51
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adriyelhmm *contemplates*04:51
Nuckin_FutsHas anyone else had trouble with choppy sound before?04:51
jessidnate_: the same happened to me with mandrake, then I knew suse, but there is nothing like Ubuntu Linux. Nothing!!! I love this one!!!04:51
iiiears((((Ubuntu))))04:52
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nate_"nate_: if you hated Red Hat, try using windows :p" So I did for 8 years XD But not that I'm using Ubuntu, there is no way in hell I'm going back!04:52
dabar((dabaR))04:52
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Milkmy problem is that ubuntu can't seem to contact CUPS via the gui04:52
volvoguyadriyel, sorry. i thought a non-raid mobo implied i was trying to do it with software. :) you need a running system to use the array but you need the array to start the system. i'm going to go poke around and see what i can do.04:52
adriyelI don't think there'll be an issue if you stick by the defaults04:53
adriyelI don't see why people would use software RAID if you couldn't boot from it04:53
kermitvanfroschHow big are the chances that my saa7134 based hybrid (analogue/DVB-T) tv-card is going to work in hoary without modifying the kernel?04:53
qatsinate_: good....im still stucked with it.....strange, cuz im switching from windows to ubuntu, and in my other computer i have gentoo, which runs great....i think thats the one i love most :p04:53
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iiiearsGive me one click install and similar performance for gaming  - pfft no more MS windows.04:53
volvoguyi use it more for redundancy than performance.04:53
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nate_I've thought about trying other distros but don't want to waste cds when I have a great OS as it is ^_^'04:54
volvoguybut in this case i was going to experiment with the performance side of RAID. i'll report back on my findings. :)04:54
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adriyelheh, I can tell you that04:54
matt_what is the ubuntu prescribed method for changing the window manager im going to use?04:54
vladuz976anybody know if the resolution issue after install will be fixed in breezy04:54
adriyelvolvoguy,04:54
adriyelare you using two IDE drives?04:54
adriyelor two SATA04:54
adriyelor two SCSI even?04:54
adriyelor two FibreChannel04:55
adriyelor...or...or..04:55
iiiearscan you HW raid two ide drives?04:55
volvoguyyep. it's not a performance machine... a freebie.04:55
adriyelyes iiiears , if the mobo has the ability to do it04:55
volvoguytwo IDE on seperate busses.04:55
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iiiearsinteresting04:55
qatsiha, well guys, you didnt helped me with my sound....you just made me talk about os's.......04:55
adriyelthe problem is that using PATA/IDE with RAID, software or not, has overhead04:55
adriyelSATA lacks that overhead04:55
volvoguyiiiears, yeah. i'm pretty sure they make IDE RAID controllers.04:55
Nuckin_Futshow do u change the play speed, as in the e.g 44kHz?04:56
adriyelI'd say you're going to get diminishing returns, particularly with software RAID, but the transfer rates will improve markedly04:56
iiiears2 ide on seperate buses? - hm. does that create problems for other CD/DVD drives?04:56
vladuz976how do you send private messages?04:56
adriyelvolvoguy, I know for a FACT they have HW IDE Raid controllers, my last mobo had it04:56
iiiearsonly 2 channels no?04:56
adriyelthat depends04:56
adriyelon the mobo04:56
volvoguythey're being used in serial form though - they're on different busses.04:56
Evil_TacoHow do I register my nick in IRC?04:56
adriyelyou don't have to use one channel per drive necessarily, you can daisy chain, but it'll hurt performance04:57
Nuckin_Futs /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>04:57
volvoguyadriyel, yep. exactly.04:57
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iiiearsAlways learn something here. :)04:57
Evil_Tacothanks04:57
Nuckin_Futsnp04:57
adriyelvolvoguy, I think you'll find using two seperate channels won't necessarily be 100% serail04:58
adriyelthe traces on PATA aren't as robust04:58
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P8ntKidWhats the apt command to uninstall something?04:58
volvoguymy main machine has some kinda pseudo-hardware sata raid thingie, but i haven't bought a second sata drive to play with it yet.04:58
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Nuckin_Futsso does anybodt know how to change the e.g 44kHz play speed thing?04:58
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apprenticedo ubuntu reposteries work with debian?04:59
volvoguyadriyel, i'm not really trying to compare it to "proper" RAID. i just wanted to see how it compared to using a single IDE drive.04:59
adriyelthe transfer rates will improve04:59
adriyelnothing else, but its still going to be a marked improvement04:59
bimberiapprentice: no, mixing ubuntu and debian repos is bad news04:59
iiiearsubotu tell P8ntKid about apt05:00
apprenticewell the debian peopel dont want to help me with debian05:00
adriyelbimberi, it leads to death05:00
apprenticeand since i used ubunut like 5 miunutes ago05:00
apprenticei thought u could help me05:00
bimberiadriyel: well ... perhaps not :)05:00
volvoguyadriyel, i think so too. i may try doing some video recording on the machine. does anyone know how to diagnose a 60 cycle ground loop problem when cable tv is plugged into a PCI tv tuner? :)05:00
orlokvolvoguy: dont use the pseudoraid!05:01
adriyel60hz ground loop.05:01
apprenticesome plz05:01
volvoguyi haven't found a comcast tech that even knows what a 60 cycle ground loop noise is.05:02
volvoguyorlok, i won't be doing any experimenting on my main machine for a while. :) thanks.05:02
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vladuz976how do you set default webrowser or media player?05:03
bimberiapprentice: What's the problem?05:03
adriyelvolvoguy, I am not a comcast tech, I am 17 y/o geek05:03
apprenticei cant install x05:03
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P8ntKidwhat is the link to the place where i can put text in so that i can show people in IRC for ubuntu? Like i can show the error message i am getting05:04
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volvoguyi'm thinking that the internet and tv coming in on the same cable (effectively) is what's causing the problem. *shrug*.05:04
adriyelprolly.05:04
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bimberiapprentice: Any error message?05:04
apprenticeit just wont find xfree this is a net isntall05:05
apprenticei need more reposteris05:05
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P8ntKidCan someone help me with this error message i get when i try to install wine?05:05
jaminhey there05:05
bimberiapprentice: are you installing hoary?  it uses xorg05:05
apprenticeumm dude im on debian05:05
iiiearsP8ntKid - I hope someone can help you. - have a couple of questions on wine too. - spent a couple of hours and no result.05:06
adriyelI gave up on wine long ago05:07
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bimberiapprentice: what did they say in #debian?05:07
P8ntKidiiiears, I cant even get it to download and install05:07
jaminI'm installing on an Apple G5, and I'm running into the yaboot problem that a lot of other people seem to have encountered, but I haven't been able to find a page that clearly describes a workaround... anyone know where I might look?05:07
iiiearsP8ntKid - there is the #cedega channel on freenode. (usually just too quiet there.)05:07
apprenticethey didnt get me resource for more repos05:07
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P8ntKidiiiears, I might have goten it to work with synaptic05:08
iiiearsP8ntKid - using synaptic and under settings add "Universe Communitty Supported" - synaptic will find it.05:08
P8ntKidya05:08
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jaminsynaptic, you say?05:09
iiiearsP8ntKid - Cedega is looking like a bargain at sixty dollars and an absolute steal at 15 dollars. - lol05:09
adriyeliiiears, how about you just go ahead and install cedega for 0 dollars?05:10
adriyelits CVS, you lazy bugger05:11
bimberiapprentice: hmm - appears debian.org isn't working atm (for me anyway)05:11
adriyelthey even have a script made to make it easy-cheezie kraft style05:11
P8ntKidiiiears, Im not paying for anything, expecially when im using linux...05:11
adriyelhell, if you compile it from CVS, you can even compile it for 64bit and optimize it05:11
iiiearslol - i need someone to hold my hand the first time install. "emulator virgin"  -  rofl05:11
apprenticeyeah damn debian. im switching to bsd05:11
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P8ntKidiiiears, Can i PM you with my error im getting?05:13
iiiearsi won't know enough to help- sigh05:13
P8ntKidiiiears, I got Wine to show up on synaptic, but it gives me a error and it tries to download and install it05:14
iiiearsP8ntKid - one more wine question and i start to wring my hands and whine. - lol05:14
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iiiearsHuh - could the server at winehq be down?05:15
P8ntKidiiiears, There is a whole bunch of them, which one to i need to isntall?05:15
whyameyeis there something I don't understand about the spell checker in OpenOffice? It's not catching spelling errors....05:15
cafuegoapprentice: Debian/BSD or another one?05:15
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iiiearsi clicked and installed wine alsa and wine-setuptools05:16
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apprenticeim gonna do bsd cuase debian is being mean05:16
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iiiearsbut like i said haven't had any luck with it. (sheepish grin)05:16
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castingpearlsis anyone in here currently switching back and forth between kde and gnome in ubuntu??05:18
cafuegoapprentice: mean?05:18
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Ex-Cyberanyone know if the ATI HDTV Wonder card has linux drivers available? I seem to be having trouble finding any chipset or driver info for it05:18
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cafuegocastingpearls: I was, until i realised KDE really sucked.05:18
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castingpearlscafuego: does it give you the option of switching between the two at login??05:19
cafuegocastingpearls: Yeah, that's a matter of choosing from the Session menu on the login window.05:19
Crystuferguys, somebody wanna tell me exactly what a kernel is, or point me at something that will?05:19
castingpearlscafuego: thanks, i just wanted to make sure before i installed kde05:19
cafuegoCrystufer: a kernel is the thing that sits between the computer hardware and the user applications.05:19
HrdwrBoBCrystufer: the kernel is the core system drivers05:20
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cafuegoCrystufer: Ie: it allows your applications to talk to the hardware in an organised way.05:20
dabaRalso wikipedia might help05:20
Ex-CyberCrystufer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computer_science%2905:20
juanejhow do i change xfce DPI?05:20
benjamin1254need working dvd player 4 gnome .... totem isent workin right05:20
CrystuferAlso, I am running from a live cd cuz my drive was shot. yay for me!05:21
concept10benjamin1254, whats the problem?05:21
benjamin1254no sound05:22
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concept10sound in other apps?05:22
benjamin1254but evrything oyside totem works05:22
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benjamin1254yes05:22
cafuegoDon't you think fixing the sound on totem might be  abetter option?05:22
benjamin1254idk how05:22
mic_how do get libstdc++.so.6 in 5.04?05:22
PenguinOfIs it possible to install Ubuntu over the Internet, without downloading a CD image?05:23
cafuegoPenguinOf: Not really, you need a minimum set of files.05:23
concept10benjamin1254, why dont you try VLC05:23
benjamin1254vlc?05:23
concept10!vlc05:23
ubotuconcept10: Wish i knew05:23
PenguinOfcafuego: Sure. Does something like that exist?05:23
mic_PenguinOf: i think it's better to download the image05:23
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durtwhat do i need to install to be able to use "alsaconf"05:23
concept10!info vlc05:24
PenguinOfmic_: I can't boot a CD image over the network and I don't have a burner handy.05:24
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB05:24
cafuegoPenguinOf: You could PROBABLY get away with using the debian netinst image, pointing that at the Ubuntu sources after the initial setup.05:24
cafuegoPenguinOf: That's a still 100Mb of download, though.05:24
durt!alsaconf05:24
ubotudurt: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!05:24
PenguinOfcafuego: 35MB, AFAIK :P05:24
cafuegoPenguinOf: Maybe the debian boot-floppies set with an ubuntu apt source...05:24
PenguinOfblarf05:24
cafuegoor the tftp netboot image with an ubuntu source05:25
TaxManCan anyone help me customize a livecd to have the JDK and IntelliJ IDEA? I followed the wiki about this, but I'm not sure how to install the JDK and IDEA on it because they are not packages available via apt-get.05:25
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PenguinOfcafuego: I wonder if it's possible to netboot a small rescue disk, then deposit Ubuntu on the target hard drive.05:26
pietro_spinahey, Does anyone here know how to do an apt-cache search or something with apt-get to list packages that are upgradable?05:26
PenguinOfI mean the CD image. Then boot from it somehow.05:26
benjamin1254vlc-gnome.................. is ubuntu gnome?05:26
VeloxTaxMan: You need to temporarily add the extra packages and backports to your /etc/apt/sources.list. See http://www.ubuntuguide.org05:26
PenguinOfgrajkrgnfad05:26
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mic_how do I install libstdc++.so.6?05:26
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concept10ubotu, VLC is VLC (initially VideoLAN Client) is a highly portable multimedia player for various audio and video formats as well as DVDs, VCDs, and various streaming protocols. Read more at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/05:27
ubotuconcept10: what are you talking about?05:27
durtOK - this is annoying as hell: i played with xorg.conf, but i still cant get rid of the touchpad click-on-tap. any ideas?05:27
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benjamin1254dling now at 18.605:27
benjamin1254kbs05:27
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benjamin1254kb/s05:27
concept10ubotu vlc is VLC (initially VideoLAN Client,a highly portable multimedia player for various audio and video formats as well as DVDs, VCDs, and various streaming protocols. Read more at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/05:27
ubotuconcept10: what are you talking about?05:27
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concept10oh well05:28
pietro_spinayes I know Synaptic... would show them...  I just want to know the CL way also...05:28
concept10!ubotu vlc is VLC (initially VideoLAN Client,a highly portable multimedia player for various audio and video formats as well as DVDs, VCDs, and various streaming protocols. Read more at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/05:28
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Veloxmic_: I opened up Synaptic, entered libstdc++, and I was able to find libstdc++6 easily.05:28
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benjamin1254the bot is anoying plz rad more a varyanoyyed.com05:28
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xav_hi! where the hell the theme clearlooks quicksilver went ?? [breezy] 05:29
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mic_Velox: i found it but how do i install it05:29
juanejwhat is that dpkg-reconfigure xorg command to reconfigure xorg?05:29
cafuego!test05:29
ubotuCrashed.05:29
P8ntKidiiiears, Did you get it to work? what error are you getting?05:29
paganiniI have returned to bother all you friendly gurus again05:29
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ofer0xav_, you can download it from gnome-look.org05:29
ofer0juanej, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:29
skplis it normal for ubuntu linux to sometimes not register my mouse clicks, for example having to click twice on dialougues etc to make them actually work?05:29
juanejthat one thx05:29
xav_ofer0, thx05:29
cafuegoskpl: no05:30
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Veloxmic_: Right click, hit Mark for Installation, and then click the Apply button on the toolbar.05:30
iiiearshttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45   Cedega from CVS looks like a clear explanation05:30
skplcafuego: do you have any idea on what might be causeing that?05:30
cafuegoskpl: are the dialogs maybe not active, so you click once to select the dialog, then again to hit  abutton...?05:30
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snareguyhas anyone fixed issues with a dell monitor/ati drivers?05:31
P8ntKidim just gona find a torrent for cedega05:31
iiiearsP8ntKid - is that link a thorough walkthrough?  (got my fingers crossed)05:32
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snareguyi can't seem to get my screen resolution past 1024 x 76805:32
mic_Volex: got it05:32
VeloxVolex...thats new o.o05:32
ofer0snareguy, you will have to edit xorg.conf if you want other resolution in System -> Preferences -> Screen Reso05:33
iiiearsP8nt, - hm - i worry about added "features" from a torrent d/l like stolen cedega.05:33
concept10benjamin1254, did you install VLC and try that?05:33
paganiniThe problem: I'm attempting to migrate my ubuntu install (this one here that I'm IRCing from) over to a machine that has leeter hardware. So, here what I have done: 1 - I took the Big Drive from the Leet Machine and plugged it into this machine. 2 - I repartitioned the drive with FDISK and MKFS. 3 - I rebooted the machine using a live disk (so that my current root filesystem would not be mounted as /). 4 - I mounted the two partitions (m05:33
paganiniy usual root partition, and the target empty partition) on /mnt/ubuntusource and /mnt/ubuntudest respectively. 5 - I did cp -Rav * /mnt/ubuntudest while in the /mnt/ubuntusrc directory. 6 - I edited the new /boot/grub/menu.lst and /boot/grub/device.map and /etc/fstab files to agree with the new setup.05:33
paganini- more 905:33
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benjamin1254how do u use dual screen... one for 1 app the other 4 another05:33
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Veloxiiiears: Just shell out the $15 ($5/month, min 3 months) for Point2Play...best $15 I ever spent.05:33
TomT64what's the file that contains info on booting different partitions05:34
iiiearsExactly! :)05:34
ofer0snareguy, you can do it by "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:34
skplcafuego: that must be it05:34
mic_Volex: so stupid of me. hehe. anyways tnx. i just got my skype running05:34
VeloxTomT64: /etc/fstab05:34
snareguyi edited the resolution for depth 24.... do i need to change the xconf for every instance that i find mentioning resolutions?05:34
TomT64Velox: thanks05:34
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paganini7 - I moved the Big HD back over to the Leet Machine. IT wouldn't boot. IT said "operating system not found" which is a bios error. So, no biggie, grub not installed. 8 - I booted off the install disk in rescue mode, alt-F2ed to the virtual console chrooted to /target, and ran update-grub, then grub-install.05:34
paganiniGrub says: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.05:35
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paganiniThe file is there, and it is 512 bytes.05:35
paganiniSo... what should I try next?05:35
iiiearsVelox - geez - it can't be easy to cut the gordian knot of MS direct-x    certainly worth a little money for their effort.05:35
benjamin125405:36
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nitinguys i enabled the ldap module and apache spits this error when starting:05:36
nitin Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2-prefork/mod_auth_ldap.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2-prefork/mod_auth_ldap.so: undefined symbol: util_ldap_connection_close05:36
Veloxiiiears: Indeed...they tirelessly slave over their code to bring Linux users DirectX and better games support, its definately worth it.05:36
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Veloxnitin: Never used mod_auth_ldap, but does it have any depends?05:37
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iiiearsLoki bankruptcy is still fresh in my mind. - would be damn nice to have them be around still.05:37
nitinVelox: no clue05:37
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EasterSunshinei have an unknown nvidia agp video card in front of me, i've been trying to identify it for quite some time now using pictures on the web, but to no success, any ideas?05:38
iiiearslspci - should tell the story of that unkown card05:39
durtEasterSunshine google its part number05:39
iiiearsa little experimentation with ram settings and you'll be golden05:40
iiiearsram size05:40
anekdoteni installed unbuntu on ide2, i was expecting to be asked for a bootloader config and i wasnt, now it appears to have overwritten my mbr which was my 120gig ntfs drive, how can i fix this? the data on there is critical, and it would be hard to get the backups05:40
skplhow do i show...hidden files in my directories?05:40
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EasterSunshinedurt: sry i do not know the part number, but any site where i can find big pictures of them? nvidia site surprisingly doesnt have pics of their cards05:40
EasterSunshineskpl: doing `ls -a` will show all teh files in a directory05:41
skplthank you EasterSunshine05:41
jkindywat are some things to do in linux05:41
EasterSunshineskpl: includign the hidden ones, the ones that start their filename with a period05:41
iiiearsEasterSunshine - ??? what do you need that lspci doesn't tell you?05:41
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EasterSunshineiiiears: oh sry, its not inside my comp right now05:42
skplEasterSunshine: thank you05:42
Veloxjkindy: What do you mean?05:42
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VeloxToo late.05:42
anekdotenanyone?05:42
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EasterSunshineiiiears: it would be cool if i could do lspci and get info on cards outside my comp05:42
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iiiearsEasterSunshine - Do you see an FCC ID# listed on the card somewhere?05:43
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Veloxanekdoten: Is the original MBR Windows?05:43
EasterSunshineskpl: np :)05:43
anekdotenyes05:43
anekdoteni think05:43
billytwowillyif you guys had to buy a wireless router(802.11g) for home right now, what would you buy?05:43
anekdotenor one of those segate drive overlays05:43
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billytwowillymy wrt54g just died05:43
Veloxanekdoten: You can load up the Windows CD and run /fixmbr I think it is.05:43
iiiearsif so FCC.gov - has a list of -ALL- electrical devices05:43
paganiniAnekdoten, you'll need to boot off of your Windows XP install disk and select "recovery mode"05:43
paganiniFrom there you'll get a console where you can run fixmbr05:44
anekdotenok05:44
VeloxIn recovery shell.05:44
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anekdotenand the data will still be there eh?05:44
EasterSunshineiiiears: let me take a look, thx05:44
ofer0billytwowilly, i like Edimax BR6114WG05:44
VeloxLook it up...god knows enough people want to restore their Window's bootloaders.05:44
anekdotenok05:44
billytwowillyofer0, linky?05:44
anekdotenwell i mean it never had windows installed on it, it was just formatted as ntfs05:45
anekdoteni guess ill take a look on the web05:45
anekdotenit didnt have an OS at all on it, just a data disk05:45
paganiniOh, also, at boot I get "GRUB Hard Disk Error"05:45
ofer0billytwowilly, check it here: http://www.edimax.com.tw/html/english/products/BR-6114Wg.htm05:45
billytwowillyofer0, only one antenna... lame...05:46
paganiniSo it did install when I ran "grub-install" before I took it out of the not-leet box05:46
iiiears!recoverubuntuafterinstallingwindows05:46
ubotuNo idea, iiiears05:46
iiiears!recoverubuntu05:46
ubotuiiiears: What?05:46
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iiiears!grub05:46
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:46
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benjamin1254still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps even through vlc05:50
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haluby05:50
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xavcan someone send the gtkrc file: /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks Quicksilver ?05:51
benjamin1254still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps even through vlc05:51
vitriolcan anybody explain this to me: 64 Mobile Technology  is known _not_ to support power-saving. ( i get this when i boot up )05:52
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vitriolbut speed stepping works just fine with powernowd05:52
vitrioli dunno what that means, exactly05:52
HrdwrBoBvitriol: it's because the script that says that is stupid05:52
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xavcan someone send the gtkrc file: /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks Quicksilver ? please05:52
vitriolHrdwrBoB: okiedokie thanks for clearning that up :)05:52
HrdwrBoBvitriol: no worries :)05:53
HrdwrBoBvitriol: same hing on opterons05:53
HrdwrBoBthing05:53
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HrdwrBoBwhich now support coolnquiet05:53
vitriolbwah05:53
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vitriolHrdwrBoB: do they support coolnquiet in 2.6.10?05:53
NamShubHi05:53
vitriolHrdwrBoB: powernowd wasn't working for me in 2.6.10 or 2.6.11 ubuntu kernels05:53
vitriolworks fine with 2.6.12 though05:54
HrdwrBoBvitriol: yep05:54
benjamin1254still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps even through vlc05:54
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HrdwrBoBvitriol: the script didn't load the module though05:54
NamShubI have problems installing (k)ubuntu on my laptop. It fails when trying to "install network devices"05:54
HrdwrBoBvitriol: you had to load it manually05:54
vitrioloohh05:54
snareguydisplay drivers are now working, thank you for the help05:54
vitriolHrdwrBoB: was it available as a module in those previous kernels?05:54
HrdwrBoBvitriol: yes05:54
vitriolok05:54
HrdwrBoBpowernow-k805:54
vitriolaha!05:54
snareguynow, i just have to get this sound blaster audigy 2 working and i'm good05:54
snareguyhas anyone done this05:55
NamShubany clue? my laptop is a LG LW6005:55
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HrdwrBoB!audigy05:55
ubotuit has been said that audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.05:55
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iiiears!chmod05:55
ubotuiiiears: Bugger all, i dunno05:55
NamShubI dont care if the eth card isnt detected (i use wifi) but atleast I want to be able to continue the installation process :)05:55
snareguyi'll try that, thank you05:55
vitriolmaybe breezy will have better detection of k8 cpus05:55
vitrioliiiears: what do you need to know about chmod?05:56
benjamin1254still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps even through vlc05:56
vitrioliiiears: man chmod will tell you pretty much everything you need to know, unless you are confused about that particular command ;)05:56
NamShubhow can I disable network detection at install?05:57
P8ntKidIm having problems installing cedega on ubuntu05:58
VeloxNamShub: Use the expert install.05:58
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EasterSunshineubotu chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.05:58
ubotuokay, EasterSunshine05:58
NamShubVelox: ok ill try that, thanks05:58
iiiears a bunch of *.txt files recorded to DVD from windows have the execute bit set? - why is that?05:58
zoexihey,  I have keyboard layout problems.  I can set the layout to spanish, and it all works except for the accent key, I should be able to type it before any vowel and I should end up with an accented vowel.  Instead I get a vowel with an accent mark sitting to its left. a e i o u.  Is there a way to fix this?05:59
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VeloxP8ntKid: Just invest in a download subscription from TransGaming, it saves alot of hassle.05:59
xavis someone having troubles with xine-ui ?? if xine tries to show a menu (right click for instance) it quits complaning about glibc05:59
juanejzoexi, use spanish layout, and pc105 or something05:59
xavany idea ?05:59
juanejworks for me 05:59
VeloxBesides that, it helps support TransGaming for them to program Cedega/Point2Play.05:59
P8ntKidWell, I would be using wine, but i cant seem to get that to work... and nobody can help me06:00
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TraceGreen Hello, something wrong with my bootsplash, if i add splash=silent nomce quiet in my grub, just black screen when boot.06:01
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talioshowdy - the other day my nautilus just up and dissapeared and no longer seems to run.  did a recent update in hoary break something?06:01
zoexiOK,  I tried changing the keyboard model and i get no luck,  Do I need to restart something before it works?06:03
benjamin1254still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps ... this is getting to me.. i would like to watch my dvds06:04
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benjamin1254vlc doesent even get audio but everything else plays audio06:04
zoexibenjamin1254, what apps?  does other audio work?06:04
benjamin1254my dvd audio dont wana show up06:05
benjamin1254vls does show video and so do others but no audio06:05
zoexibenjamin1254, it is probably the pipeline06:05
Veloxben_d: Your DVD software might be using an incorrect sound engine.06:05
pcd927whats a good site for ubuntu softwear06:05
VeloxAck06:05
Veloxbenjamin*06:05
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maeguys i'm having a serious problem starting x in colony-1 .. i get "No input driver matching `keyboard'" and "Failed to load module "keyboard" (module does not exist, 0)"06:06
benjamin1254explain i dont get it06:06
zoexibenjamin1254, check multimedia systems selector under the system menu, make sure that the selected system matches those set in the prefs of your other apps06:06
Veloxpcd927: You can get almost any software you need from the repositiory system. See http://www.ubuntuguide.org about adding extra repositories.06:07
pcd927i need a site for softwear06:07
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Veloxpcd927: Try opening the Synaptic package manager06:07
maei've never had this kind of problem before06:07
P8ntKidCan anybody help me with installing Wine?06:07
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NoUse!wine06:08
P8ntKidNoUse, You have said that many times, that does not help with my problem.06:09
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maep8ntKid you havent tried the version in the apt repository06:09
mae?06:09
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maeP8ntKid: type "sudo apt-get install wine"06:10
maeits as simple as that06:10
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P8ntKidmae, Its not as simple as that, there is dependanciy issues06:10
rayim getting the following error trying to open alsamixer   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory06:10
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drewfusmaximusanyone available to help me?06:11
maeP8ntKid: apt takes care of dependency issues automatically, try what i just said06:11
drewfusmaximusim having a problem with my monitor06:11
paganiniRAWWWWK!06:11
maerather it automatically installs needed dependencies06:11
paganiniIt do be working.06:11
NoUseP8ntKid paste your output to http;//paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:11
P8ntKidmae, I have tried that probably over 100 times in the paste 3 hours.06:11
paganiniFor some reason, google didn't direct me to that page.06:11
paganiniThanks for the pointer!06:11
maeP8ntKid: don't get mad at me, i just got here.06:11
maeP8ntKid: you get some type of error06:12
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maeP8ntKid: what is the error (i have no X right now so i can't lookup the pastebin)06:12
luiP8ntKid, just try what mae says that make all the things for you06:12
NoUseP8ntKid you could paste to #flood too06:12
P8ntKidlui, Stop.06:12
VeloxP8ntKid: It sounds like ALSA is installed incorrectly.06:12
maeP8ntKid: please post the error in #flood06:13
P8ntKidim in flood06:13
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drewfusmaximusis anyone able to help me out?06:13
P8ntKidi just posted it06:14
benjamin1254could i get xine for ubuntu?06:14
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benjamin1254the gnome version06:14
NoUseP8ntKid try sudo apt-get -f install06:14
Veloxdrewfusmaximus: Whatcha need and I'll try to help.06:14
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P8ntKidNoUse, I did.06:14
P8ntKidI have tried everything06:15
kevmanI just apt-get updated from Warty to Hoary.06:15
benjamin1254could i get xine for ubuntu?06:15
benjamin1254the gnome version06:15
drewfusmaximusim having trouble with my monitor06:15
ofer0benjamin1254, sudo apt-get install gxine ?06:15
kevmanEverything is fine, except I can no longer access my Internet connection through my NIC.06:15
kevmanIs there some change that was made that I can revert?06:15
Veloxdrewfusmaximus: What kinds of problems?06:15
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drewfusmaximusi just installed and when the gui logon started it was out of range of my monitor06:16
titaniummy friend just said "ubuntu doesnt seem to be focused for any specific task ie for a server,  im looking for something more server related" -- to him a server being halflife or something. what should i say to refute him for great comedy06:16
drewfusmaximusso i took someones lcd monitor and im on it now, but i cant keep this one for long06:16
EasterSunshinemy brother just told me nvidia's geforce 4 mx is worse than geforce 3? is that true?06:16
dbw_no.06:17
Veloxdrewfusmaximus: You can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try automatic detection again. On one of my boxes it took a reconfig to detect my monitor.06:17
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dbw_good night06:17
drewfusmaximushow do i do that06:17
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ofer0EasterSunshine, if we are talking about GeForce 3 Ti200, then yeah, its true06:17
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ofer0drewfusmaximus, run your system using recovery mode. just choose recovery in the grub menu06:18
drewfusmaximussorry im new so i dont know much about the linux world of computers06:18
Veloxdrewfusmaximus: No problem. Are you at a command line right now? (just text)?06:18
ofer0drewfusmaximus, then run this command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:18
drewfusmaximusno im in the gui06:18
adam_from what i know gforce 4mx indeed is worse than gforce 306:18
mojo243does anyone know of a guide to show me how to set up Icon packages?06:18
maecan anyone help me with this strange "keyboard" issue with xorg06:18
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Veloxdrewfusmaximus: So whats the problem?06:19
adam_mojo243: system > preference >  theme > install06:19
drewfusmaximusim on a moniter that i cant use for long06:19
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drewfusmaximusim in a terminal now06:19
drewfusmaximusi just opened it06:19
kevmanCould it be because of IPv6?06:19
kevmanCan I disable ipv6 in Hoary?06:19
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ofer0mojo243, just drag and drop the .tar.gz file into the system > preference >  theme (thanx to adam_) window06:20
Veloxdrewfusmaximus: You'd need to be on the old monitor to probe.06:20
benplauthello everyone :)06:20
mojo243what extension does the icon pack have to be in?06:20
drewfusmaximusso nothing i do will matter if i do it now06:20
adam_mojo243: you don't have to untart it06:20
adam_just drag and drop06:20
adam_untar*06:20
maeuntart, hah06:21
adam_+_+06:21
benplautunfart is coming next?06:21
rayim getting the following error trying to open alsamixer   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory06:21
drewfusmaximusis the hardware the problem or is it my moniter06:22
drewfusmaximusor06:22
mojo243no luck.06:22
mojo243does anyone want to see the txt file that came with it?  It asks me to do a few things06:22
adam_mojo243: ohohoh i will!06:23
adam_mojo243: but not sure ican be helpful;06:23
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Veloxray: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/349193 <-- there seems to be a solution at the bottom of the page.06:23
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bmecoliyipee06:24
bmecolididn't know there was a IRC chan until now06:24
bmecoliyay06:24
mojo243the thing is, I dont have a GTK folder in my custom theme area06:24
TraceGreen Hello, can anyone help me with bootsplash?06:24
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bmecolium... anywho06:24
bmecoliI can't get gcc on here06:24
bmecoliit seems as so that I need a compiler to compile a... compiler06:25
bmecolisi I'm the screwed ;/06:25
escdoes anyone know how I can open a windows .txt file in linux? I am getting an error saying the character coding was not detected.06:25
NoUsebmecoli what happens when you apt-get it?06:25
adam_mojo243: a... i lost the file; can you try that once more sorry >_<06:25
bmecoliapt-get it??06:26
bmecoliI'm a linux n00b :D06:26
NoUsebmecoli use synaptic06:26
NoUse!synaptic06:26
ubotuI guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto06:26
bmecoliooooh06:26
bmecolithank you.. I shall read that06:26
NoUsenp06:26
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bimberibmecoli: install the build-essential package (includes the compiler plus a few other goodies)06:27
EasterSunshinewhen i run glxgears, it reports 90 fps, but it actually looks like 20, can it be possible that X can't keep up with the buffer swaps?06:27
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VeloxOuch FPS. Thats not near enough for games.06:27
adam_mojo243: a... i think you have to create a folder named :gtk-2.006:27
adam_mojo243: but..i'm not sure.. i'm a newbie also +_=06:28
EasterSunshineVelox: i don't have drivers installed on my savage3, 32 megs06:28
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EasterSunshineVelox: what do you get? 1000+?06:28
mojo243ya, it just doest explain very well :( im spoiled by the forum howtoos.06:29
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bmecolioh that is cool! OOOH THAT IS COOL06:29
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bmecolipackage manager!06:30
bmecoliwhooo!06:30
tritiumhi nalioth06:30
adam_lol06:30
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rayVelox, thaNKS06:30
VeloxEasterSunshine: I get about 10000 FPS06:30
EasterSunshinejesus...06:31
EasterSunshinewhat card?06:32
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anekdotenis there a way to reinstall grub from the ubuntu install cd?06:32
maewell brb06:32
VeloxGeForce FX 5950 Ultra 256mb06:32
maeHEY06:32
maei have the same card06:32
mae:)06:32
Velox!grub06:32
ubotugrub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows06:32
anekdotenah thanks06:32
TrippDoes anyone know anyway of sending info to Ubuntu directy?06:32
BurgundaviaTripp, what do you mean?06:33
Veloxmae: =)06:33
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TrippThey support two laptops right now, I want them to know that there's a third, and there's no problems with it in anyway.06:33
zoexiOL, OL OL OL!!!06:34
BurgundaviaTripp, if you have enough time LaptopTestingTeam is for you06:34
BurgundaviaTripp, if you don't, you need HardwareSupportLaptops06:34
BurgundaviaTripp, both on wiki.ubuntu.com06:34
zoexifixed,  I saw the triangle next to spanish in the layout list, and figured it contained different flavours (like spanish vs. spanish iso in OS X) and was selecting those06:35
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dooglusis there any known way of getting 'universe' bugs fixed?06:35
Evil_TacoDoes anybody know how to convert OGG to MP3?06:35
Belutzanyone has tried google talk with gaim?06:35
VeloxBelutz: I'm about to connect.06:35
benplautBelutz, yup06:36
benplautworks fine for me06:36
BelutzVelox: why it won't connect...06:36
VeloxDid you set it up as pet the guide?06:36
Belutzi follow the instructions on google website06:36
zoexiEvil_Taco, I was able to use mplayer/mencoder to do it once with fedora06:36
benplautBelutz: got a firewall?06:36
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Evil_TacoUh, how?????06:37
Belutzbenplaut: hmmm built in firestarter, it shouldn't be a problem right?06:37
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zoexiEvil_Taco, lots of man page reading.  It was't easy, but it was possible06:37
Burgundaviadooglus, have you filed a bug?06:37
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Evil_Tacohmm06:38
benplautBelutz: can you use jabber without problems?06:38
Evil_Tacouh is FLAC audio the same as MP3?06:38
adam_Google Talk on Gaim : http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=2407306:39
_johnhey, i have a question about open office. (1.1.3).  How do i turn off the autocomplete word thing? like how if im typing "animal" and I had used the word "another" earlier, it will make "animal" "another"?06:39
VeloxBelutz: I use Firestarter, and by default it allows outgoing connections just fine.06:39
Evil_Tacoor with FLAC audio can windows media player play it?06:39
Belutzbenplaut, Velox: sorry, my bad, i use xxx@gmail.com as my screen name, it suppose to be just xxx06:39
Belutzhmmm but it still won't connect, it keep asking me for my password06:39
pinkoEvil_Taco: lossless.  it claims not to compress more than 30-50%, but it'll sound perfect06:39
VeloxBelutz: That'd do it =)06:39
Evil_Tacouh can windows media player play it?06:40
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pinkoprobably, if you install FLAC06:40
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maewoot got xorg going again06:41
pinkoC=codec06:41
zoexiEvil_Taco, not a clue.   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide#Audio_Codecs  if you want to give mencoder a try06:41
ce_Nevohiiiiii06:41
benplauthi06:41
Evil_Tacookay, thanks guys06:41
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Belutzbenplaut: can i have your gtalk id, i want to test messaging someone :)06:41
benjamin1254lol thanks for talking so much it keeps me awake seeing as everytime u guys talk my pc squeeks like a bat06:42
Veloxbenjamin1254: Heh06:42
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Yuusouhello?06:43
VeloxHello06:43
Yuusouwhy can't I send messages to debian channel?06:43
firezDoes anyone has uninstalled the Java SDK before?06:43
YuusouI can't send messages to debian's channel, I'm on Knoppix Live CD, anyone know why this is happening?06:44
NoUseYuusou not sure, what kind of problem are you having?06:44
maewell thats a lot of information to go on..06:44
YuusouNoUse, it just says cannot send to channel06:45
maeYuusou, i highly doubt it has something to do with knoppix06:45
Yuusouwell, since I can't speak in debian, does anyone in here know anything about it?06:45
VeloxYuusou: The channel may be for registered users only.06:45
NoUseVelox good call06:46
maeYuusou, yes, there is much similarity between ubuntu and debian..06:46
YuusouVelox, I just registered my username and it still doesn't work06:46
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maemaybe he lost his v06:46
VeloxYuusou: reenter the channel?06:46
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YuusouVelox, did that 3 or 4 times now06:46
VeloxThat reminds me as well...*makes a new username*06:46
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jtan325is there a way to dpkg-buildpackage without the -k option, i.e. it looks up your id in a file or env. variable?06:47
Yuusouwell, since I can't send to debian, can anyone help me with a display problem?06:48
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VeloxYuusou: what kind of problem?06:48
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YuusouI boot into debian and it says: Cannot Display This Video Mode   or something like that06:48
YuusouI can't see anything except that06:48
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odysseywhat is breezy like to use? any new amazing features?06:49
VeloxYuusou: No command line?06:49
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YuusouVelox, no, nothing except that06:49
DeltaFIs ubuntu the distro that's compatible with .debs from debian?06:49
adriyelI need help with Doom306:49
maeodyssey, well for starters it has gnome 2.12 prerelease which features are outlined here: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/06:49
adriyelmy sound isn't working on Doom3. I use Hoary, 64-bit06:50
NoUseDeltaF ubutnu uses debs but they aren't all necesarily compatbile06:50
thrice`adriyel: cool06:50
adriyelcan anyone help?06:50
adriyelthrice`, not cool. I want sound06:50
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odysseymae, so apart from gnome 2.12 nothing else?06:50
thrice`adriyel: then fix it06:51
YuusouVelox, it's a black screen exxcept for that error message06:51
WeirdAlHey06:51
adriyelthrice`, are you trying to antagonize me?06:51
DeltaFDarn.. Well, is ubuntu fairly straightforward to setup as a development box for other architectures?06:51
maeodyssey, oh sure lots of changes under the hood, its all compiled with gcc 4 is another thing06:51
WeirdAlI'm getting a \kernel panic at startup06:51
mae...06:51
maeusplash various updates06:51
bimberi!breezy06:51
ubotumethinks breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/06:51
thrice`adriyel: no; you come in expecting others to fix your problems06:51
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adriyelthrice`, I am asking for help you arrogant bastard. I've already done the normal checks06:52
maeodyssey, gnome 2.12 is actually a quite significant update if you'll look at that link i gave you..06:52
WeirdAlIt says "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)06:52
zoexican help files and dictionaries for open office be apt-gotten?  If so what are they called?06:52
WeirdAl"06:52
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DeltaFInsulting support isn't the way to get help..06:52
thrice`adriyel: no; you said "my sound doesn't work in doom3"06:52
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adriyeland then I described my system06:52
adriyel64 bit hoary, AC' 97 sound06:52
adriyelno crash06:52
adriyelno error06:52
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VeloxYuusou: Try pressing CTRL + F206:52
adriyelsound all works otherwise06:52
WeirdAlI think it started with the latest kernel update. I only just got it connected to the internet yesterday.06:53
thrice`you ran it from a termianl and found your sound error ?06:53
adriyelI tried telling doom3 to use alsa instead of oss, no change06:53
durtdid you try... alsaconf06:53
adriyel*no error*06:53
adriyelI checked for muted items, nothing muted06:53
adriyelit acts like its muted06:53
adriyelthe volume in doom3 isn't muted06:53
WeirdAlAnyone? Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)06:54
dracflamlocwhats the command to configure firestarter06:54
WeirdAl:(06:54
dracflamloc?06:54
Yuusouokay06:54
Yuusouoh06:54
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Yuusouthere we go06:54
Yuusouokay penny, what's next?06:54
adriyelI'm going to force it from the console to use Alsa06:54
adriyelif it still doesn't work, I am going beszerk06:55
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YuusouVelox, didn't work06:55
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VeloxYuusou: Did that open a command line at least? (text login)06:56
adriyelno change06:56
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adriyelalsa works fine durt06:56
adriyelits doom306:56
Yuusouit minimized xchat is all06:56
YuusouXD06:56
adriyelI'm gonna double check, and make absolutely certain nothing is muted06:56
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Yuusouoh wait06:56
Yuusouyou want me to boot into debian, then try that?06:57
snareguywould anyone know how to get my dell 5.1 speakers working with my sound blaster audigy 2 card?06:57
adriyelstill no change06:57
adriyel*bangs head on desk*06:57
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adriyel...06:57
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YuusouVelox, do I do that when I see the error message?06:58
maeso, what do yall think of cairo06:58
odysseymae, you can see the difference?06:59
maeodyssey, there is also one other subtle difference... if you read those gnome 2.12 release notes the ever annoying crappy cut/paste support has been fixed06:59
odysseynice07:00
maeodyssey, i.e. now if you copy or cut something, then close that app, the clipboard will remain persistent as opposed to relying on that application to still be open for the paste data07:00
XolevYuusou: I have no idea...<-- Velox07:00
durtwhy doesnt gsynaptics have any effect?07:00
WeirdAlOne more go? Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)07:00
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maeodyssey, not sure :) i just installed it so i haven't had much time to play yet07:00
XolevWeirdAl: Apparently its trying to mount at a non-existant drive/partition.07:01
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WeirdAlIt was working last night :/07:02
Evil_TacoHi I installed LAME and can't find it =\07:02
WeirdAlI haven't changed anything, apart from last night I did an update07:02
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Evil_TacoDoes anyone know where to find LAME after installation through Sytapic manager/07:03
Evil_Taco*?07:03
XolevEvil_Taco: I don't know where LAME is installed, but XMMS and amaroK seem to work fine.07:03
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WeirdAlXolev: If I start in recovery mode it tells me to append a correct "root=07:04
WeirdAl"07:04
Evil_Tacocan I convert to MP3 with either?07:05
XolevMy root is root=(hd0,0)07:05
WeirdAlCould last night's update have affected anything?07:05
nerdy2WeirdAl: have you tried booting LinuxOLD ?07:05
maebreezy is still fairly broken odyssey i would stick with hoary for a bit longer if you don't want any nasty surprises07:06
NoUseEvil_Taco (in a terminal) which lame07:06
thrice`breezy isn't frozen is it?07:06
maenot even close07:06
odysseymae, thats part of the fun. besides i think i will stick07:06
maei mean, they aren't adding wildly new unstable features anymore07:07
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thrice`gnome will go in right?07:07
WeirdAlCan anyone point me to a really tiny bash shell that I can put on CD and boot?07:07
Burgundaviathrice`, yes07:07
odysseyisnt it being released in september?07:07
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WeirdAlThis connection sucks bad07:07
durtive managed to get breezy working fairly decently07:07
Burgundaviaodyssey, Oct 13 for Breezy, Sept 7 for gnome 2.1207:07
maedurt, you have any problems with sound juicer crashing?07:07
WeirdAlAll I need to do is browse the file system.07:08
WeirdAlIs there anything smaller than DSL?07:08
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Karol_18ver ircchat.terra.cl 700007:08
Evil_TacoOkay NoUse, I get a list of commands.07:08
durtmae: dont use that, but ive had problems with lots of things crashing that i think just need configuring07:09
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NoUseEvil_Taco you should just get one, most likely '/usr/bin/lame'07:09
Evil_Tacoyeah07:09
Evil_TacoOkay07:09
Evil_TacoI just typed lame07:09
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XinexDoes anyone know of a command to automatically reconfigure xorg?07:10
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XolevXinex: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg requires some user input, but is easy.07:11
Evil_Tacookay...when I run /usr/bin/lame I get a list of commands, just like when I ran lame in the terminal =\07:11
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XolevWere you looking for a lame gui?07:11
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Evil_Tacouh is there one? if not can someone teach me how to use this?07:11
WeirdAlI'm gonna have to reinstall when I get home aren't I?07:12
Xinexthank Xolev07:12
knowledge_so it's official...you can't simply copy a "home" directory into a fresh install...it just doesn't work07:12
Xinexbut I don't know the video card o r some of the things I need to input07:12
XolevXinex: I've found it autodetects for most07:13
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Xinexalready tried ^_^07:13
NoUseEvil_Taco are you just trying to rip CDs?07:13
WeirdAlXolev: is there any chance I could have managed to get a corrupt kernel update?07:13
WeirdAlXolev: and is there a way I can replace it without having to get a live boot CD of any form?07:14
landotterknowledge_, you can copy but you need to change ownership and uid on everything. ;)07:14
knowledge_landotter: yeah, I found that out the hard way, and a few formats and reinstalls later...the hard drive crashed...07:14
Evil_TacoI'm trying to rip my CDs to MP3. But the only options are WAV OGG and FLAC...07:14
odysseyEvil_Taco, get grip and make it use lame07:14
Evil_Tacoand a friend said to use LAME to convert. =\07:14
Xolevknowledge_: Which you can do with chown -R newuser:newgroup /home/foo07:15
Evil_Tacoapt-get install grip ?07:15
odysseyprobably07:15
NoUseEvil_Taco yes07:15
landotterknowledge_, if it makes you feel any better, my Maxtor went titsup a week ago. Unrecoverable. :P07:15
knowledge_Xolev: what do you mean? that's all I had to type?!07:15
Evil_Tacothank you guys so much :D07:15
Evil_Tacodeeply appreciated.07:15
XolevEvil_Taco: LAME is a MP3 codec, go with what odyssey said and use grip to convert.07:15
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knowledge_landotter: mann, I don't think there's a decent company for hd's anymore07:15
Xolevknowledge_: to change ownership, yes.07:16
brandomeUSB HD wont mount- any suggestions??07:16
landotterI'm just gonna run the Maxtor diagnostic a couple times per year.07:16
brandomeit usally mounts on boot up- but not this time07:16
landotterknowledge_, if ya like gui stuff, emelfm is pretty nice for changing uid and permissions on huge groups of files. :)07:17
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Evil_TacoSorry I don't mean to be a pest...07:17
Evil_Tacobut grip is now installed, how do I get LAME to work with it?07:17
WeirdAlEvil_Taco: guess you can't help what you are07:17
WeirdAlhah joking:)07:17
brandomeme neither- any one got any ideas for me?07:17
knowledge_landotter: yeah, it's not that I don't like command, it's just that I suck at it...I'm the kind that would copy and paste what Xolev  wrote and expect it to work without any effort07:18
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durtso, which is a better video format: Avi or Mpeg?07:18
knowledge_I'm still recovering from using windows for so many years07:18
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Evil_Tacosorry07:18
Evil_Tacostupid me XD07:18
odysseydurt, they are completely different you cant compare them07:18
Evil_TacoFound it sorry!07:18
brandomeUSB HD- anyone?07:18
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zcat[1]   wine: Depends: libwine (= 0.0.20050310-1.1) but 0.0.20050628-1ubuntu1 is to be installed07:18
Xinexmpeg you can stream, avi you can't07:18
zcat[1] :-(07:19
landotterknowledge_, there's probably a 12 step group in your area <g>07:19
knowledge_lol07:19
pennyhello07:19
Xolevknowledge_: On Linux, everything takes a bit more tweaking, but once it works, its normally rock-solid. No more bluescreens for moi.07:19
WeirdAlGuess I'll spend all night getting a 49MB file07:19
knowledge_you need a 34 step to recover from windows07:19
Xinexheh07:19
zcat[1] kids just got a game out of the library.. I guess they're gonna have to wait07:19
pennys/bluescreen/redscreen/g07:19
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zcat[1] or I have to throw an old machine together and toss windows on it..07:20
MadpilotXolev: there's a BSOD screensaver in with Xscreensaver in Ubuntu, if you miss it! ;)07:20
Xinextweaking my ass, I've never been able to config linux to work07:20
landotterI agree with Xolev, even compared to more automagic distros like Mandrake and Suse, it seems Ubuntu doesn't break as easily once set up. Probably a very subjective thing. :P07:20
bmecolithat screensaver owns07:20
XolevMadpilot: Dear lord! BSODs will kill us all!07:20
odysseyzcat[1] , its giving you that because you have more than one repo with wine it in.07:20
bmecoliit's fun to watch OSes go to shit07:20
Evil_Tacouh for my cd burner drive what do I put for CDROM DEVICE ?07:20
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landotterbmecoli, I like that one and Bouncing Cows. LOL07:21
bmecolihehe bouncing cows07:21
NoUseEvil_Taco the default should work07:21
Xinex<3 bouncing cows07:21
zcat[1] I thought apt was supposed to be smart and figure out a set of dependencies that work07:21
bmecoliI'm running on crap hardware, so it's choppy as all get out07:21
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Evil_Tacofor my cd burner? its set for my cd player, I have 2 different drives07:21
Madpilotthe fireworks screensaver is cool - only one with sound effects that I know of...07:21
XolevEvil_Taco: /mnt/cdrom0 is my default cdrom drive, not sure about your box though.07:21
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Evil_Tacogotcha, I i got07:21
Evil_Tacoit07:21
zcat[1] /media/cdrom0 -- what distro is /mnt/cdrom0 ?07:22
landotterbmecoli, my onboard loved openGL stuff once I bumped the color depth down to 16 from 24.07:22
odysseyzcat[1] , remove a repo that has the duplicate and it will install07:22
vitriolis there a gnome applet to show cpu temp?07:22
brandomeUSB hard drive not mounting07:22
linuksoHi! Trying to get a grip on bluetooth in ubuntu, I can connect to my phone, but I cant browse it with nautilus, and the limit for gnome-obex-send is 3 meg. Is this the way it should be?07:22
fr500linukso, afaik now all phones are browseable07:22
Xolevzcat[1] : My bad :P07:23
KumaCan someone help me, when I try and install E17 I get this error: enlightenment:07:23
KumaPackage enlightenment has no available version, but exists in the database.07:23
KumaThis typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list07:23
pennyvirus is happy07:23
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linuksofr500: ah, so it's not a bug in nautilus or gnome-bluetooth-utils when I can't open bluetooth:/// ?07:23
zcat[1] most linux's its /mnt .. ubuntu uses /media for removable drives.07:23
fr500Kuma, in the forums, there is a thread with a repository07:23
XolevI've got a pounding headache right now, and thinking is running at below normal.07:23
dennis__Anyone here use myspace?07:23
dennis__Is it down for you?07:23
Evil_Tacohow do I set were the files are ripped to?07:23
landotterKuma, which version of Ubuntu? I had to compile it for Warty.07:23
dennis__Or the login part that is07:23
Xinexmyspace gross07:23
fr500linukso, i have never been able to do that with my T61607:23
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Kumalandotter: 5.6 I think07:24
zcat[1] pain too; I was using /media for all my media (movies and music) so I had to make it something different..07:24
knowledge_landotter: see what I was doing was gftp'ing the files from the desktop to the laptop, but I ran gftp as root in order to be able to move the files...and from there it went ape sh!t07:24
Xinexcrap, I don't know which xserver driver to use07:24
landotterKuma, search the forums as mentioned. ubuntuforums.org07:24
linuksofr500: ok, thanks. But do you have a limit on file tranfer to the phone?07:24
Kumalandotter, thanks07:24
fr500linukso, my phone has real little memory so noway to test07:25
brandomesays my drive doesnt exist07:25
landotterknowledge_, live and learn. :P Been there. :D07:25
fr500linukso, what phone07:25
linuksofr500: Siemens M7507:25
knowledge_yeah...live and learn07:25
fr500never seen it07:25
fr500sorry07:25
Xinexanyone know what vid card an old p2 compaq would use by default?07:26
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fr500Xinex, when nothing works i do vesafb07:26
Evil_TacoDoes anyone know how to set where the MP3s are ripped to in Grip?07:26
Xinexok07:26
HrdwrBoBXinex: something horrible07:26
Belutzlinukso: does Siemens M75 already out?07:26
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XinexHrdwrBoB, agreed07:26
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fr500i think that is the name Xinex, maybe it's just vesa07:26
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linuksoBelutz: Its been out for a while..07:27
Xinexit's an old pc I'm turning into a home file server07:27
Belutzlinukso: ic, what about S75 ?07:27
fr500Xinex, what do u need the GUI for?07:27
Belutzlinukso: i'm kind of siemens mania hahaha07:27
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phlaegelI've got an interesting problem with booting recent breezy kernels... it complains of a missing volume group and drops me to a shell, but I'm not using lvm. Any takers?07:28
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adriyelyeah, don't use beta software07:28
linuksoBelutz: Don't know 'bout that... :( sorry. But the M75 is nice, got a mmc reader, so I can stick 512 mb of ram in it :D07:28
phlaegeladriyel: wow. thanks.07:28
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adriyelsorry, I was feeling callous07:28
adriyelin all seriousness07:28
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Belutzlinukso: so, the M75 has a lot of feature now... thx for the info linukso :)07:29
adriyelno lvm, complains of a volume group...07:29
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adriyelhave you google'd it?07:29
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bz0bhey07:29
adriyeladditionally, what kernel?07:30
phlaegelyeah... I found a post on the forums about something similar, but no solutions, and he *was* using lvm...07:30
bz0bdoes anyone know how to spoof their mac of their wireless card07:30
Xinexfr500: because I don't know how to use the command line07:30
Evil_TacoWhere are the mp3s ripped to by default in Grip?07:30
fr500Xinex, what do u need for a fileserver? A gui wont work too well on that pc07:30
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adriyelmaybe lvm is broken?07:30
zcat[1] iwconfig the mac address I think..07:30
adriyelcan you disable the module? is it even a module?07:30
Xinexwhat do you mean, fr500?07:31
phlaegeladriyel: any kernel after 2.6.12-6.607:31
fr500Xinex, it will be unbearably slow07:31
XinexI don't care07:31
fr500well07:31
phlaegeladriyel: the volume group it complains about is crazy, too. "301"07:31
XinexI just need the internet to go fine07:31
adriyelare you using i386?07:32
phlaegel68607:32
adriyelthe kernel is 686, or is your machine 686?07:32
fr500Xinex, well, it will still be very slow, you will see it once you get it working07:32
Xinexand this comp ran win98 fine, fr50007:32
phlaegelboth07:32
adriyeldid you do the recompile yourself?07:32
landotter-awayEvil_Taco, wherever you specify in the setting. ;)07:32
phlaegelno07:32
phlaegelstock kernel07:32
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adriyelI wasn't aware that breezy had a stock 68607:32
fr500Xinex, get a lightweight window manager like XFCE4 or fluxbox07:32
landotter-awayEvil_Taco, do give ripperX a try too, it does vbr encoding rather nicely. :)07:32
phlaegellinux-686...07:32
XinexI know, fr50007:33
Xinexbut I need to get this working first07:33
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adriyelphlaegel, the default/standard for hoary is i38607:33
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bmecoliYES I DID IT!07:33
adriyelis this some sort of change I've missed here?07:33
bmecoliI compiled my first program in Lnux!07:33
Evil_TacoI don't remember specifying it though, and I will :)07:33
bmecoli*linux07:33
phlaegeladriyel: on the cd, sure. but the athlon and p4 kernels are online, and in main.07:33
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bz0bbmecoli, good job :-07:33
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bz0b:-)07:33
Xinexcongrats bmecoli, you're really a programmer now07:33
zcat[1] ./configure && make && make install  - yawn..07:33
Xinexyou can't spell07:34
fr500Xinex, did u try vesafb in the dri section of xorg.conf file?07:34
cafuegozcat[1] : wrong07:34
landotterEvil_Taco, grip's bit hard to er, come to grips with lol, theres a config tab for it.07:34
Xinexnot yet, fr50007:34
bz0bzcat[1] , hey hey hey, don't dis on people07:34
fr500ok07:34
bmecoliunfortunatly... it didn't compile X support... I well need the X dev files for that07:34
bz0bzcat[1] , i guarentee you had a problem the first time you tried07:34
XinexI need to know what xorg server manager to use first07:34
cafuegozcat[1] : You just added stuff in /usr that the package system doesn't know about.07:34
zcat[1] 99% of the time that works :)07:34
DjKriticalzcat[1] : yeah what bz0b said!07:34
adriyelphlaegel, wasn't aware of this, interesting. so the 686 kernels are optimized individually for athlon and p4...interesting07:34
cafuegozcat[1] : Just because it works doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.07:34
zcat[1] hehe.. apt-get build-essential helps too..07:34
adriyel(I have an athlon3500, irrelevant to me)07:34
phlaegeladriyel: 686 is for p4, k7 for athlon, etc07:34
XinexI need to know what xorg server module to use first, fr50007:35
phlaegeladriyel: and k8 for you :-)07:35
adriyelHoary 64bit here07:35
cafuegoEither use --prefix=/usr/local or run checkinstall.07:35
adriyelheh, yes.07:35
adriyelmy Athlon3500 is a Venice, so it has SSE307:35
pennyk8 is for dummy07:35
fr500Xinex, i'm pretty sure it's called vesafb07:35
zcat[1] I can't even remember the first time I tried to compile something..07:35
adriyelanything optimized for a P4, I can run :)07:35
cafuegok8 isn't available in the i386 repositories.07:35
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phlaegelcafuego: correct07:35
adriyelpenny, wow nice inflammatory comment07:35
zcat[1] .. I do remember trying to compile the kernel on a 286 with 4M ram..07:35
Evil_Tacoyeah I've been playing around the config tabs and can't find anything about it XD07:35
Xinexnot driver, fr500, module07:36
Xinexdri?07:36
fr500i know, try modprobe vesafb07:36
zcat[1] .. I gave up after three days07:36
fr500or vesa07:36
XinexI can't07:36
phlaegeljbailey: ping07:36
cafuegoadriyel: So can I; there are heaps of P4's without SSE3.07:36
bz0bzcat[1] , winners never quit and quiiters never win!07:36
fr500Xinex, in that section try the same, it's either vesafb or vesa07:36
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adriyelcafuego, indeed. but I can run Mac OS x86 on this thing, with rosetta with full acceleration07:36
adriyelwhich I've done07:37
adriyelwhich was a waste of time07:37
pennyI wish ... P4+3dnow07:37
Xinexonly vbe in the list, fr50007:37
cafuegoadriyel: I run it on the Macs, much nicer.07:37
fr500hmmm07:37
zcat[1] that wasn't three days of trying, that was one config and three days of compiling.07:37
fr500weird, i could swear there was07:37
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adriyelcafuego, only until the consumer intel macs come out07:37
zcat[1] it built a little faster with 8M of memory.07:37
adriyelpenny, you wish P4 + HyperTransport07:37
adriyelfool. :P07:37
cafuegoadriyel: That's YEARS away, though. '07 innit?07:37
adriyelnah, 0607:38
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pennyadriyel, HT = useless07:38
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pennyadriyel, HT < dual-core07:38
cafuegoadriyel: Why would you prefer a P4 over an Athlon64? They cost more and do less. Marketing slaves :-P07:38
adriyelLOL, penny, thats why my AMD 3500 gets 6.7 gb/sec with its memory, and the fastest intel with DDR2 only gets 5 gigabyte/sec?07:38
Xinexfr500: PM?07:38
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fr500Xinex, if i was on linux now, i could help more07:38
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fr500Xinex, i was gaming07:38
adriyelpenny, Athlon X2's have dual core AND hypertransport.07:39
Xinexah07:39
fr500Xinex, ok07:39
fr500PM07:39
HrdwrBoBadriyel: that's primarily because the amd64's memory controller is on the cpu07:39
maewhat package might i need for mono to make this error dissapear when attempting to compile a rudimentary program in monodevelop: /home/mae/test.cs(9) error CS0246: Cannot find type 'Window'07:39
adriyelHrdwrBoB, thanks, I know that07:39
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zcat[1] ohhhh, wine does install when I get rid of all the backports repos..07:39
adriyeland what do you think that is attributed to HrdwrBoB? maybe....hypertransport?07:39
bmecoliyum07:39
HrdwrBoB...07:39
adriyelthe cache to cache speeds on the pentium D SUCK07:39
HrdwrBoBit's attributed to the fact that they put the memory controller on die07:40
cafuegomae: Not that i know C#, but in C that would imply a missing include.07:40
pennyadriyel, but mmu-binding ...07:40
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pennyadriyel, bad design07:40
HrdwrBoBbut yes, it's good07:40
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adriyelHrdwrBoB, yes, but hypertransport was an aspect of the whole design concept, allowing for interconnected devices to have higher bandwidth07:40
pennyadriyel, no chose is not good07:40
cafuegoWhen I was buying a USB hub at the local pc shop last week, this guy was on the mobile to a colleague, jumping up and down to get him to check whether a Celeron D had sse3.07:40
adriyelmemory to cache for example07:41
HrdwrBoBhahahah cafuego07:41
adriyelsure, on die is nice07:41
cafuegoI didn't have the heard to tell him I'd already has OSx86 running in vmware for days ;-)07:41
adriyelbut hypertransport affects this07:41
HrdwrBoBheh07:41
cafuegos/heard/heart/07:41
HrdwrBoBadriyel: is english your first language?07:41
adriyelon die is the main reason for the memory performance, yes, but hypertransport enables the whole machine to better be able to communicate with the cache/mem07:41
pennybut ... how to upgrade?07:41
HrdwrBoBaffect is not the right word07:41
HrdwrBoBenables, allows, yes07:42
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adriyelHrdwrBoB, I just got done working a 12 hour shift, and its 1:42 am in the morning, hows your english under similar conditions?07:42
cafuegopenny: You cannoy upgrade your P4 to an AMD64 without also buying a new mainboard (and possibly ram)07:42
zcat[1] effects?07:42
HrdwrBoBI tend to go to bed :)07:42
adriyelcafuego, duh. :P07:42
adriyelHrdwrBoB, some of us have responsibilities, thanks.07:42
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pennyso do this : amd -> intel07:43
adriyel...07:43
cafuegopenny: that would be a downgrade, not an upgrade.07:43
adriyelwhy should I switch to intel? they cost more, suck down more power, perform nowhere near as well07:43
adriyelgenerate more heat07:43
pennynot always07:43
xerathhey07:43
adriyelheat/cost/power are non negotiable07:43
HrdwrBoBthe dual core pentiums are cheap07:43
adriyelthey are a given07:43
cafuegopenny: No, sometimes they cost less and perform less well.07:43
HrdwrBoBthey suck, but they are cheap07:43
pennynot really07:43
adriyelyes, and the pentium D's perform like crap for what I'd want them for too07:44
adriyellike I am going to downgrade from my athlon 3500 to a 2.8ghz processor07:44
HrdwrBoByes, they suck :)07:44
HrdwrBoBalso, xeons are terrible.07:44
cafuegopenny: yes, they do. Sorry if you wasted your money on one, but that's not our fault, now is it?07:44
HrdwrBoBopterons >> xeons07:44
adriyelpenny, yes really. I know how D's perform on the apps I use, I'll fucking PASS ok?07:44
bmecoliok07:44
adriyelopterons pwn xeon's.07:44
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pennyjust wait a moment07:45
cafuegobmecoli: how about 'dosbox' ?07:45
titaniumnerd war07:45
bmecolinow, I'm wondering... /mnt/ has nothing in it... whyyyy?07:45
bmecoliI want to get to my NTFS partition07:45
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cafuego.. just let me find this Intel sponsored research that says a 3.6GHz HT Xeon is faster then an AthlonXP 2000+ ...07:45
titaniumbmecoli: mkdir /mnt/helloworld07:45
pennyp-m+3dnow+64bit+quad-core+high-freq07:45
adriyelpenny, thats not a real processor fool07:45
adriyelok, fine, wanna do some penis wagging?07:45
bmecolititanuim: haha funny07:45
adriyelmy athlon3500 is running at a front side bus of 300mhz, mem speed of 600mhz07:46
cafuegobmecoli: You can just mount it (read-only) in Linux.07:46
bmecoliok, how do I go about viewing my pother NTFS formatted HD?07:46
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penny+low-price+high-performence07:46
orlokI'm running an AMD64 3400+07:46
orlokat 1Ghz07:46
adriyelits got a core speed of around 2.6ghz07:46
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zcat[1] my /mnt has nothing in it either :(07:46
bmecolicafuego, how do you mount drives? ;/07:46
adriyelit's overclocked heavily07:46
cafuego!ntfs07:46
bimberi!mountwindows07:46
ubotufrom memory, mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically07:46
pennymaybe p-m 5g07:46
cafuego!tell bmecoli -about ntfs07:46
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zcat[1] /media!!07:46
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adriyelmy chip is runs @ 110 degrees fahrenheit, FULL LOAD, how many eggs is your prescott frying...n00b.07:47
bmecolibimberi, thank you07:47
cafuegobmecoli: That script should see you sorted.07:47
penny0.45nm07:47
bimberibmecoli: yw :)07:47
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cafuegoadriyel: How much is that in sane units?07:47
adriyelpenny, you're speaking of future tech07:47
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adriyelcafuego, heh, you mean centigrade?07:47
cafuegoadriyel: Kelvin will do07:47
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adriyela chemist huh?07:47
adriyel *grins*07:47
titaniumi love how penny is spitting out random factoids from a tech pdf he has open in the background07:47
pennyno07:48
cafuegoadriyel: Nah, not really (really not)07:48
adriyel316.5 kelvin07:48
titanium67 MILLION TRANSISTORS GUYS!!!! THERE I WIN THE ARGUMENT07:48
sjgUhg, cant sleep :(07:48
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orlokcat /proc/cpufreq07:48
orlok          minimum CPU frequency  -  maximum CPU frequency  -  policy07:48
orlokCPU  0      1000000 kHz ( 41 %)  -    2400000 kHz (100 %)  -  userspace07:48
cafuegotitanium: Haha, I have way more brain cells than that. loser.07:48
pennyI think ... intel is the bset07:48
bmecolihey, where does wget save to??07:48
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adriyelpenny, you're not making any valid points07:48
cafuegobmecoli: `pwd`07:48
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Xinexis there a way to "emulate" the install process with xorg and have it autodetect and reconfig?07:48
pennyin the past and in the future07:48
bmecolithanks again07:49
sjgpenny, If youre paying for it, buy what you want, But dont expect anyone else to agree with you.07:49
titaniumcafuego: this mobo supports upgraeds u stupid noob i can get more and play css at 309538fps u dum fukk.... ur ded07:49
zcat[1] bmecoli: '.'07:49
orlokok.07:49
crimsun_Xinex, you can use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:49
orlokOSX and Samba are driving me batshit07:49
cafuegoXinex: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:49
adriyeltitanium, wtf?07:49
pennyhaha, let we see07:49
Xinexcafuego and crimsun_: tried, I don't know the vid card or what server module to use07:49
durtthats a lot of fps07:50
bmecoliyou mean the same directory that console is in??07:50
cafuegotitanium: l0l0lz! my eyes have aol dsl!! way leeter!07:50
pennyin 90s... amd = ?07:50
adriyelwtf?07:50
cafuegoXinex: What does 'lspci' say about vga?07:50
Xinexdunno07:50
adriyelpenny, do you have reality issues?07:50
XinexI'm trying to get someone to tell me what server module to use, cafuego07:50
zcat[1] lspci | grep -i vga07:50
pennyhehe07:50
titaniumcafuego: ur eyes r noobs u dont no nething i have 4 atkins videocarbs in slp agi u cant touch this. ur owned07:50
cafuegoXinex: maybe you could check, say by running 'lspci'?07:50
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sjgGod penny, your english is horrible too.07:50
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penny(silly)07:51
adriyelsjg, lol.07:51
cafuegotitanium: you win ;-)07:51
XinexI'm in the graphical configurator cafuego07:51
cafuegoXinex: So?07:51
adriyelsjg he's an Intel zealot. its amusing :)07:51
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cafuegoXinex: alt-F2; login, lspci07:51
sjgadriyel, obviously07:51
titaniumcafuego: thank god thats over im going to sleep >:(07:51
cafuegotitanium: <heh> g'night :-)07:51
adriyelsjg, lol, you've been watching?07:51
sjgadriyel, Cannot sleep :(07:51
pennynooooo07:51
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adriyelfancy that. that sucks07:52
adriyelI used to have insomnia, my woman changed that07:52
cafuegobmecoli: ^^ yes07:52
sjglol07:52
Xinexhaha cafuego: matrox graphics07:52
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adriyelmatrox parhelia? :P07:52
ineedhelpbadcan some1 help me07:52
ineedhelpbadwhen i install ubuntu it installs but when it starts up my screen stays blank07:53
ineedhelpbadi have a dell laptop07:53
Xinexnow what, cafuego?07:53
bmecolihmm, I found a typo in gnome-console (or something else)07:53
bmecoliTou should run this program as root or using sudo07:53
cafuegoXinex: use the 'mga' driver.07:53
bmecoliTou?07:53
bmecoli;p07:53
Xinexok07:53
Xinexand what server module?07:53
ineedhelpbadcan some1 pm me and help me07:53
cafuegoXinex: 'mga'07:53
ineedhelpbad?07:54
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Evil_Taco^_^' Now I feel like a moron.07:54
pennyme too07:54
cafuegoas long as we're clear on tha07:55
Xinexwhoa07:55
cafuegot07:55
Xinexcoincidence07:55
ineedhelpbadmy video card is a intel 915GM/GMS,910GML express chipset07:55
bmecoliNTFS drives will be mounted read-only! <-- :(07:55
cafuegobmecoli: yes.07:55
pennywhen I prefer amd,you prefer intel07:55
bmecolithis can be changed right?07:55
cafuegobmecoli: Linuyx cannot write to NTFS. Microsoft won't release the specs, so a driver can't be easily written.07:55
pennywhen I prefer amd, you prefer intel07:56
bmecoliwell, fuck07:56
cafuegobmecoli: You can FORCE it to mount read-write, but that WILL destroy data.07:56
Xolevbmecoli: Writing to NTFS drives has a tendency to corrupt them.07:56
bmecoliI see07:56
ineedhelpbadCAN SOME1 REPLY TO ME07:56
adriyelwow07:56
bmecolithank you for the info07:56
adriyelhow do you unblock a user in gaim?07:56
pennyI prefer intel now... you prefer amd07:56
cafuegoineedhelpbad: CAN YOU SWITCH OFF CAPSLOCK AND JUST ASK THE QUESTION ON THE CHANNEL?07:56
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ineedhelpbadi did07:56
ineedhelpbadok07:56
cafuegobmecoli: You can make windows read/write ext2 and ext3, though.07:56
ineedhelpbadhere it is07:56
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ineedhelpbadi installed ubuntu and i cant get the display workin07:57
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pennybrb07:57
ineedhelpbadits installs everyhign then goes to boot up and then nohtin07:57
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ineedhelpbadblank screen07:57
ineedhelpbaddoes it with the live cd too07:57
ineedhelpbadmy video card is a intel 915GM/GMS,910GML express chipset07:57
ineedhelpbadi have a dell laptop07:57
Xinexcafuego: no go07:57
Xinexthere is no mga server module07:58
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cafuegoXinex: Any specific errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?07:58
Xinexyes07:58
ineedhelpbadare u talkin to me07:58
bmecolicafuego, that's nice and all, but I have no windows OSes installed :)07:58
ineedhelpbadand i dont know nothin aobut linux really07:58
ineedhelpbadso can some1 explain to me plz07:58
ineedhelpbador can i fix it at all07:58
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bmecolia solution would be to repartition the disk back to FAT07:58
Xinexchange your name first ineedhelpbad07:58
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cafuegobmecoli: <heh>07:59
Tech-N9nethere07:59
Tech-N9nelol07:59
cafuegobmecoli: Then you may as well go to ext3 anyway; just back up that data first07:59
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Xinexcafuego: skipping /usr/x1R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a :m_debug_clip.o :no symbols found08:00
bmecoliI "could" copy all the NTFS files to /home/*myuser name*/backup/ and change the partition :)08:00
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Alfred1881Alfred1881 hey all , in need to convert mp3 files to a format , that i can play on a CDplayer after burning a disc08:00
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Tech-N9necan i get help now08:00
kevin06Does anyone here have Mupen running sucessfully on Ubuntu?08:00
_frankAlfred1881: burn an audio cd08:01
MadpilotAlfred1881: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AudioCDCreation08:01
Evil_TacoDarn X(08:02
Evil_TacoI can't find out how to configure where Grip rips files to XD08:02
bmecolisw33t!08:02
bmecoliit is seen!08:02
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Richie32hi08:02
odysseymae, dam this is nice08:03
bmecolihello08:03
Richie32need some help please08:03
bmecolitrust me, you will get it ;)08:03
Richie32area51@mark:~/Desktop$ winedbg eMule.exe08:03
Richie32WineDbg starting on pid 0xf08:03
Richie32Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels08:03
Richie32to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file08:03
Richie32In 32 bit mode.08:03
Richie320x77b7539e: jmp 0x77b7538d08:03
MadpilotEvil_Taco: SoundJuicer goes to /Music by default (I think) but it's configurable08:03
Richie32Wine-dbg>08:03
Madpilot!tell Richie32 about pastebin08:03
Richie32sorry the flood08:03
crimsun_Richie32, try amule08:03
Evil_Tacoyeah but I'm using Grip XD08:03
Evil_TacoI have looked and just can;t find it XD08:04
Richie32i can't use amule... i just have national downloads...i can't downloading international files :/08:04
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sataereHey everyone08:04
MadpilotEvil_Taco: no idea, but you could switch to SJ... ;)08:04
Richie32anyone ?08:04
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Evil_TacoThis is ripping to MP3 which is what I need Madpilot, but thanks :D08:05
sataereOn one of my ubuntu installations, I have a submenu in gnome: Debian, where all my installed applications are listed.  On this fresh install, that same submenu is not there.  :(  I really like that menu.08:05
zcat[1] SJ does mp308:05
MadpilotEvil_Taco: you can do that in SJ, I gather. Never bothered setting it up myself08:05
sataereAnyone know what I did wrong?08:05
Richie32guess not08:05
crimsun_Richie32, what limitation of amule prevents you?08:05
Richie32thanks08:05
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BROKEN_LADDERanyone try out enlightenment?08:06
Richie32crimsun, amule don't have an internation ip blocker08:06
Evil_TacoI looked into SoundJucier, and it only had OGG, WAV, and FLAC XD08:06
Richie32and i don't know how to make an perl script08:06
Richie32for that08:06
Evil_Tacoas output XD08:06
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zcat[1] install lame / liblame ?08:06
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crimsun_Richie32, why would you need amule to do that? Wouldn't your ISP's routers do that?08:06
sataereBROKEN_LADDER, enlightenment is really nice looking, but not hugely functional I find.  You should try it out for yourself, and if you like it, go with it.08:07
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Richie32crimsun,  nop08:07
Evil_TacoI'm using Grip with lame.08:07
zcat[1] hmm..08:07
Richie32i'm from Portugal, this is a third world answer08:07
DjKriticalI can't wait to get home... Ubuntu would have finished downloading by now :D08:07
crimsun_Richie32, or are you saying that your ISP charges you additional for "international transfers"?08:07
BROKEN_LADDERsataere interesting08:07
Richie32thats it crimsun_08:07
BROKEN_LADDERi find that nothing ever really beats gnome08:07
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Evil_Tacogrrr what does the option create m3u files mean ? o_O08:08
BROKEN_LADDEReven kde with all of its functionality and configurability, just falls short in look and feel08:08
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BROKEN_LADDERplaylist file?08:08
Richie32they charge me a lot if i download international08:08
zcat[1] crimsun_ most third-world countries do :(08:08
zcat[1] like NZ08:08
Richie32holland ?08:08
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Madpilotzcat[1] : seriously? kind of defeats part of the purpose of the internet, doesn't it?08:09
Xinexwell screw this08:09
crimsun_Richie32, another method would be to use a whois database to cull the .pt IPs, then filter them using netfilter+iptables08:09
Evil_TacoWell I found a folder called mp3 in my home/nate folder....but only 1 mp3 shows up at a time, and thats when its being ripped.08:10
zcat[1] well.. I have a 10G cap and then they slow me down to dialup speeds..08:10
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kevin06Is anyone else here upset over the FCC's decision to de-regulate DSL service?08:10
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zcat[1] so local traffix is preferred.08:10
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sataereDoes anyone know how to get that Debian menu?08:10
Richie32thats a lot to my little brain08:10
Stringsomebody  speak spanish?08:10
XinexI'm installing linux on a hard drive on another computer and then transferring to a different computer and xorg won't work08:10
orlokkevin06: Which country is that? :P08:10
Richie32ola eres de espana ?08:10
crimsun_String, #ubuntu-es08:10
Xinexany suggestions?08:10
Richie32:D08:10
Stringthank you08:10
kevin06orlok, United States08:10
crimsun_sataere, install menu and menu-xdg08:10
orlokwell. not me then.08:11
Stringi have a question?08:11
sataerecrimsun_, thank you very much :)08:11
Richie32quieres mamar en lo cullo con mi lolita cabron :P *08:11
zcat[1] hmm.. My SJ doesn't have mp3 either. curious08:11
zcat[1] I'm sure it used to!!08:12
Stringsomebody can help me08:12
crimsun_String, have you asked in #ubuntu-es?08:12
Richie32cya08:13
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Stringbut, you can help me?08:13
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milksteakzcat[1] , you in NZ on some crappy Xtra plan?08:13
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BROKEN_LADDERhow do i install dr17?08:13
crimsun_String, you haven't stated your issue yet08:13
XinexString, maybe08:13
zcat[1] it would be easier for you and us to get the answer in your native language..08:13
Stringi'am a prospect in GNU/linux08:14
Oewynokay, i'm a complete linux noob, and i'm trying to install the ndiswrapper package from the CD, but the Gnome package installer isn't running (just hangs, and nothing shows up) what is the terminal command to install a package, or maybe i have to be logged on as root for it to work08:14
zcat[1] milksteak: crappy maxnet plan..08:14
milksteakheh08:14
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milksteakok08:14
BROKEN_LADDERhow do i install dr17?08:14
XinexString, what do you mean?08:15
Stringi use ubuntu08:15
crimsun_BROKEN_LADDER, have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476 ?08:15
Stringand i wanna install bmp08:15
Stringbut i can08:15
crimsun_"bmp"? As in "beep-media-player"?08:16
Stringyes08:16
Stringright08:16
crimsun_Enable the universe repository, then install beep-media-player.08:16
Madpilotyou need the Multiverse repo for beep, actually08:16
Madpilot!repos08:16
ubotuI heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:17
MadpilotString: see the URL just above ^^^08:17
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crimsun_Madpilot, err, I certainly hope you don't, since I uploaded it...08:17
bimberiOewyn: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils08:18
Madpilotcrimsun_: gah, I guess I can't read tonight, it's in "Multimedia (universe)" and I read that as "Multiverse"....08:18
Stringso08:18
Oewynthen after it's installed, i can just do sudo ndiswrapper -i filename.ini?08:19
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adriyelString, for what its worth, I've installed BMP, and its done nothing but crash08:19
bimberiOewyn: dunno sorry.  But there is this...08:19
adriyelI use rhythmbox08:19
bimberi!ndiswrapper08:19
ubotumethinks ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:19
adriyeland totem08:19
adriyelwith the gstreamer backend...08:19
crimsun_adriyel, when does it crash?08:19
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kevin06Other than Mupen64, does anyone know of another linux N64 emulator?08:19
adriyelcrimsun, whenever I try to play08:19
adriyel***anything***08:20
zcat[1] w32codecs pwn!08:20
crimsun_adnans, are you using Hoary or Breezy?08:20
crimsun_adnans, sorry08:20
adriyellol08:20
crimsun_^^ adriyel08:20
adriyelHoary08:20
crimsun_adriyel, are you using the default Ubuntu sound settings?08:20
crimsun_adriyel, (esound)08:20
adriyel*tilts head* I would assume so08:20
Oewynwhat is the default root PW?08:20
crimsun_adriyel, did you change BMP's output plugin configuration to use esound, then?08:20
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adriyelprolly not...*grins*08:21
crimsun_adriyel, that would - more than likely - explain those crashes08:21
adriyelit was using oss...SOB08:21
barney_y should i switch from debian (pure) to ubuntu - the only nice thing i see is the auto update function08:21
adriyelnoob mistake, sorry.08:21
zcat[1] Oewyn: there is no root pw.. default sudo setting is that the first user gets access using own pw08:21
Oewynokay08:21
adriyelFSCK, crimsun it worked08:22
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adriyellol, thx man08:22
crimsun_barney_, I suggest you give the Breezy Colony 3 live cd a twirl to gauge whether you should "switch"08:22
Oewynsynaptic doesn't work though :-(08:22
crimsun_adriyel, np08:22
zcat[1] odd..08:23
bimberiOewyn: "doesn't work"?08:23
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_frankcrimsun is colony like a pre beta version of breezy/08:23
barney_is that the ubuntu live disc? of a differant ubuntu live disc?08:23
naliothcrimsun_: i'm really hopin breezy will work on my imac G508:23
adriyel_frank, its just a beta08:23
topyliOewyn: it will work when you give it your own password08:23
crimsun__frank, the Colony images are release candidates, yes. There will be more.08:23
_franki can wait08:24
adriyelcrim, how many RC's do they need? lol.08:24
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crimsun_adriyel, as many as we need.08:24
adriyelare you a member of the dev team crimsun_?08:24
bimberi:)08:24
topyliadriyel: until it's perfect :)08:24
OewynI run it08:24
Oewynand nothing happens08:24
crimsun_adriyel, I'm a MOTU (wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU)08:24
adriyelperfect? no software is perfect, some gets closer than others08:24
Oewyni assume that means it's not working08:24
topyliadriyel: true, some suck more, some less08:25
crimsun_adriyel, think of the Colony images as milestones.08:25
adriyelahhh, a package maintainer08:25
adriyelNOT a job I'd want08:25
adriyelWindows, sucks more, guaranteed @ topyli  :)08:25
bimberiOewyn: what if you run "gksudo synaptic" from a terminal?08:25
zcat[1] Oewyn: probably means you entered the password wrong or aren't in the admin group..08:25
topyliadriyel: that's for sure08:26
crimsun_adriyel, not much "glory" ;)08:26
_frankcrimsun_: alot of people had sound problems with hoary, what will change in breezy so that things work better/08:26
adriyelaudio and ALSA specialist @ crimsun_... LOL, I asked the right guy about BMP then!08:26
Oewynwell, i don't know because i logged in as the only user I created08:26
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Oewynand supposidly that has root access.08:26
topyliOewyn: are you the first user created?08:26
topylioh08:26
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zcat[1] should have..08:26
topyliyou should have administrative priviledges with your own password08:26
adriyelcrimsun_ some of the most important jobs lack glory08:26
crimsun__frank, (1) dmix is enabled for up to 9 devices by default; (2) there's a device selector in System> Preferences> Sounds08:26
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durtsound is easier in breezy08:27
OewynI don't know, lemme try getting ndiswrapper to install and see if i can access internet via linux, that'll be easier...08:27
benplautdurt: agreed :P08:27
durtsort of08:27
adriyelI'd had no probs with sound in Hoary08:27
adriyeloutside of my stupidity regarding BMP...lolz.08:27
crimsun__frank, there are quite a few additional initscript cleanups that most people will not notice08:27
crimsun_(but they fix longstanding issues)08:28
adriyelcrimsun, in the 64 bit version, are they going to fix the issue with libflash?08:28
zcat[1] ndis? hmm..08:28
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_frankok. will kubuntu be and official version in breezy/08:28
adriyelI've already spoken to several people about it08:28
deFrysknvidia does not work anymore in breezy :(((08:28
crimsun_adriyel, libflash isn't my area, sorry08:28
adriyeldeFrysk, why?08:28
adriyelcrimsun_, crap, was hoping you'd know about that issue. Do you know who to contact?08:28
_frankcrimsun_: and when will multiarch for amd64 and x86 coexistence be available08:29
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deFryskadriyel, a dependency conflict08:29
crimsun__frank, yes, there will be a simultaneous Kubuntu release.08:29
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adriyel_frank, I am multiarch with my amd64 install right now08:29
ColonelKerneltheres a new ubuntu release coming out???08:29
adriyel./lib32 and /lib6408:29
_frankadriyel: so you can install 32 bit packages with no tinkering/08:29
crimsun__frank, most of the biarch was done immediately preceding Hoary's release, but it was too late to work in08:29
adriyelI am confused at the issue here....08:30
deFryskColonelKernel, new releases ara always in oct and april08:30
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ColonelKernelthats dope08:30
adriyel_frank, flawlessly, yes. I installed doom3 half an hour ago and it works fine08:30
_frankadriyel: wow, i'll give the 64bit version a try again, then08:30
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adriyel_frank, your issue might have been a fluke08:31
fluffybunny_how do I set an application as a default application (eg, I want XMMS as my default MP3 player)...08:31
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adriyel_frank, the only 32/64 issue I've had, was that the libflash plugin for firefox wasn't clean, I backtraced it...had to remove it08:31
_frankadriyel: well getting flash in firefox and w32codecs to works was a pain. plus kaffeine crashed all the time, sound wasn't great08:31
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deFryskfluffybunny_, klik properties of an mp3 and set the open with to your preferred player08:32
adriyel_frank, I dunno what to tell you, I haven't tinkered with any of that08:32
fluffybunny_deFrysk: I have done that, but the default still seems to me Media Player, not XMMS08:32
adriyelgetting flash to work, is related to my issue08:33
kaptainkany ideas on how to share a partition with a ubuntu/windows dual boot without simply mounting it? (simply mounting it seems to freeze my system)08:33
adriyelcrimsun_, can you help me with a doom3 issue?08:33
BROKEN_LADDERi'm always trying so hard to make flash _not_ work.08:33
deFryskfluffybunny_, did you tic xmms ? in the open with tab of properties ?08:33
adriyelits sound related crimsun_08:33
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adriyellol @ broken08:34
adriyelI find it easy to disable flash08:34
bimberi!defaultapp08:34
ubotuTo change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting08:34
durtthank you deFrysk08:34
BROKEN_LADDERit is..i was just joking08:34
adriyelmv ~/.mozilla/firefox/libflash-mozplugin.so /HELL08:34
crimsun_adriyel, if your libflash issue is related to the 32-bit layer, it's fixed in 1.0.10rc1 of ALSA. We may be able to see it in Breezy.08:34
deFryskfluffybunny_, ix xmms is not available use the add button to add xmms08:34
fluffybunny_deFrysk: I right-clicked, selected "Open with other application", and selected XMMS, if thats what you mean?08:34
BROKEN_LADDERi just wish i could eliminate all sound upon entering web pages.08:34
adriyeltheres your solution broken :P08:34
deFryskfluffybunny_, I said properties08:34
_frankadriyel: i had to change the audio output from alsa to oss in doom3 to get it to works08:34
BROKEN_LADDERi wish i could tell a browser to NOT play sound in a flash or any other element.08:34
fluffybunny_deFrysk: woops :)08:34
deFryskfluffybunny_, properties first08:34
deFryskfluffybunny_, ;p08:35
adriyelcrimsun_, I can't get sound working in doom3. no crash, it just seems to be muted. I've checked and nothing pertinent seems muted. additionally, I've tried it with esound alsa and oss, all three don't work, suggestions?08:35
fluffybunny_thanks - it works now :)08:35
deFryskk ;)08:35
MadpilotBROKEN_LADDER: in Opera you can - "Play Sound in Web Pages" is one of the quick-config options - just hit F1208:35
crimsun_adriyel, are you using Breezy?08:35
adriyelHoary08:35
crimsun_adriyel, no, Hoary, correct?08:35
adriyelyes08:35
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adriyelx86_64, stock kernel08:35
durtadriyel: have you tried running alsaconf?08:36
adriyelstock most everything.08:36
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adriyeldurt, everything else works08:36
adriyelwhy reconfig?08:36
kaptainkany ideas on how to share a partition with a ubuntu/windows dual boot, without simply mounting it? (simply mounting it seems to freeze my system)08:36
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MadpilotFirefox isn't a *bad* browser - it's just got a ways to go to catch up to the best...08:36
crimsun_adriyel, ok, you'd need to update ALSA to see.08:36
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crimsun_!tell adriyel about alsa-source08:36
adriyelcrimsun_, I'll update it08:36
durtadriyel: i had the same problem with bzflag but everything else worked, alsaconf fixed it08:36
zcat[1] damn, was going so well... got the CD to install under wine, but it won't run08:36
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bmecolihow do you list processes in console?08:37
hardw1reuse top08:37
bimberibmecoli: ps aux08:37
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bmecoliI see08:37
kaptainkapps/ system tools/ system mon08:38
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hardw1rewhats the latest 2.6.x.amd64 kernel?08:38
bmecolibecause xmms froze X up pretty bad08:38
bmecoli;p08:38
bimberier, console08:38
kaptainkoh08:38
crimsun_hardw1re, in Hoary?08:38
hardw1reyeah....08:38
zcat[1] hmmm...08:38
crimsun_2.6.10-5-..._34.408:38
zcat[1] too hard.08:38
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hardw1rehaving alot of compatability issues with stuff in 10-5 and 11-108:39
_frankcan anyone think of a reason why shift and caps lock and num lock stopped working on my keyboard or a fix for that08:39
bmecolianywho, I think I might look and see if I need any packages regarding codecs... because I need them :)08:39
bmecoliI mean... if they have any08:39
bmecolioops08:39
bimberi!restricted08:39
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:39
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hardw1re!kernel08:41
hardw1re:f08:41
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skplcan someone tell me why it is possible to use some fonts in some programs but not in others?08:42
bimberiyour own personal flood :P08:42
JulianGot a programming question for you.  Who's a coder here?08:43
JulianAnyone?08:43
hardw1reThe latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.12.5 <--- hmm but where from?!08:43
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adriyelJulian, what you need?08:43
adriyelJulian, its been awhile since I coded, and I prolly won't be able to help you, but its worth a try08:43
crimsun_that's kernel.org. Ubuntu tracks versions differently. Hoary froze with 2.6.10+updates.08:43
bimberihardw1re: kernel.org08:43
HrdwrBoBJulian: just ask08:43
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adriyelHrdwrBoB, is right.08:44
JulianI'm trying to compile gdl-0.8.10, and some of the include files reference a header file that's not being found.08:44
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adriyelunfound dependent header file08:44
hardw1rebimberi: i take it thats not in package form is it?08:44
JulianMost of the references use #include "full_path"08:44
JulianWhereas the include that's failing is #include <path_name>, as though it were an internal library.08:44
bimberihardw1re: source code bzip iirc08:44
ginger_anyone here have problems with USB in Hoary? is this common? any simple way to deal with it?08:45
crimsun_Julian, it's quite simple to fix, actually: sudo apt-get build-dep libgdl-1-dev08:45
JulianHow do I set up the environment so that those headers are found via <path_name>08:45
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HrdwrBoB.win 2208:45
hardw1reok im gonna need some guidance here....08:45
JulianOK.  I've gone that route, and I'm trying to build anjuta.08:45
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hardw1recause i've only ever used the apt-get for kernel's08:45
JulianPlenty of issues have arisen.08:45
JulianWhat I would give to have someone walk me through that...08:45
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bimberiubuntu's hardware identification is so good that I haven't had to compile a kernel for while08:46
JulianWhy... Why...  I'd even donate to Ubuntu...08:46
bimberi:)08:46
adriyelJulian, did you see the apt-get solution?08:46
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crimsun_Julian, are you using Hoary or Breezy?08:46
JulianHoary.08:46
bimberi!kernelcompile08:46
ubotuYou will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto08:46
Julianyeah, I saw that.08:46
PhoinixHello.. I've just migrated from Debian to Ubuntu.. all ok. But i'm trying to recompile the kernel from the old .config tha i had in Debian ... ana ubuntu does not boot !!! I can't understand why, it just crashes in the booting sequency with no message at all. After decomperssing kernel...Done.  The kernel was compiled using make && make modules_install && make install08:46
bimberihardw1re: that link (from ubotu) might help08:47
JulianPhoinix:  One thing I've found:  Ubuntu is based on debian, but it ain't debian.08:47
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hardw1recheers :)08:47
punkassI have just added a new rep to my sources.list but when I try and update it says "Ign" which I assume means ignore08:47
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punkassI believe its because I have to gpg key..and i am not sure how to get one08:48
Tonkakubuntu is really cool. i used to have red hat. but how do I put the trash icon on the desk top. help. :-)08:48
punkassto = no*08:48
PhoinixJulian, This kernel has worked in a suse distribution in the same pc... :/08:48
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TraceGreen Hello, i have bootsplash now, but it don't have progressbar, how can i set it out?08:48
sephtapache2 doesn't serve php correcly????08:49
PhoinixIS there any kind of boot log, that i can track the problem down?08:49
ubuntuhello08:49
ubuntui would like to know how to operate qemu08:49
sephtubuntu: man it08:49
ubuntui went on the site but the link does not work for me08:49
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sephtanyone know why apache2 doesn't serve php08:49
bimberiTonka: there should be one at the very bottom right (assuming you're using gnome)08:49
sepht?08:49
ubuntuhellO!08:49
ubuntucan anyone tell me how to operate qemu!?!08:49
hardw1re!tar08:49
ubotuhardw1re: Are you smoking crack?08:49
hardw1re:x08:50
ubuntubob2!08:50
jon__Does anybody here use irssi? If so, do you know how to set it so it autsend comands?08:50
ubuntuare u online?08:50
hardw1re!tar.gz08:50
ubotuhardw1re: I don't know, could you explain it?08:50
ubuntuplease08:50
Madpilotsepht: it does for me...08:50
sephtMadpilot: really?08:50
ubuntuSOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO USE QEMU08:50
Madpilot!tell sepht about lamp08:50
thoreauputicubuntu: stop being annoying08:50
bmecoliwow, xmms is being gay :)08:50
ubuntu!!!!TELL ME HOW TO OPERATE QEMU PLEASE....08:50
ubotuubuntu: Wish i knew08:50
Madpilotsepht: PHP4 - see the URL ubotu just sent you08:50
TonkaBimberi thanks so much. I have it at the bottom right but I like it in the desktop. so I can drag and drop.08:50
sephtseen that though..08:51
ubuntudarn08:51
Madpilotubuntu: stop having a tantrum08:51
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sephtit works in apache 1.3 ...08:51
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jon__Does anybody here use irssi? If so, do you know how to set it so it autsend comands?08:51
ubuntuanyone know how to operate qemu?08:51
robotgeekjon__: autosend?08:51
Evil_TacoHey, whats a good C++ program?08:51
hardw1rewats the command to unzip .bz2 again, i've completey forgotton :|08:51
ubuntuvisual c++ express08:51
ubuntuu can download it free08:51
ubuntu:D:D08:51
robotgeekEvil_Taco: for what?08:51
ubuntufrom da microsoft site08:51
renedoxthe08:51
renedoxnot da08:52
Madpilotsepht: I followed exactly those steps in the ApacheMySQLPHP page, and everything works for me...08:52
robotgeekubuntu: now, u are being disruptive08:52
Julianadriyel:  apt reports that it can't find the package for libgdl.  I probably need to add to my sources.list.  Can you refer me to a url with a complete set that I'll need?08:52
ubuntuanyone know how to operate qemu08:52
Evil_TacoJust for writting small little programs, learning purposes. I know nothing about C++08:52
ginger_so, no problems with Hoary and zero USB recognition? no one? no help?08:52
AgrajagI think he's acting like a retard on purpose, note that he also recommended microsoft08:52
ubuntuuse visual c++ express evil taco08:52
ubuntuits free from the microsoft site08:52
ubuntujust download it08:52
hardw1re!ban08:52
ubotuhardw1re: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:52
robotgeekEvil_Taco: you have c++ compiler included with ubuntu08:52
atomicozthere's a difference between acting and being Agrajag :)08:52
JulianWierd, though I do have the headers that I need (netcdf.h)08:52
ubunturobot geek08:53
thoreauputicubuntu: obviously no one here currently can help - and repeating won't make a guru magically appear08:53
robotgeekubuntu: welcome to my ignore list08:53
ubuntu.08:53
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hardw1relol08:53
AgrajagEvil_Taco: if you just need something to do syntax highlighting and that sort of thing, emacs or vim will do it08:53
iiiearsHello thoreauputic. :)08:53
Madpilotrobotgeek: it's usually harder to get rid of idiots than that - thanks!08:53
Evil_TacoWhere is it at robotgeek?08:53
thoreauputiciiiears: hi :)08:53
Agrajagor there's Anjuta, which is a full IDE, I've not used it much so I'm not sure how good it is08:53
robotgeekEvil_Taco: open up a terminal, and type g++08:54
iankind of a random question, but related to Ubuntu (evolution): anyone know if the Delete key works in OSX's Trash folder (to *actually* delete the file)?08:54
JulianI'm currently trying to compile it.  Anyone help with that?08:54
hardw1re!bz208:54
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hardw1re08:54
robotgeekMadpilot: :)08:54
JulianPerhaps spend a few minutes on a private channel?08:54
iiiears!tar08:54
ubotuiiiears: Are you smoking crack?08:54
hardw1re:A08:54
Agrajaghardw1re: come on man, it's in the tar manual08:54
robotgeekdon't abuse my cousin08:54
bimberihardw1re: bunzip208:54
robotgeek!lart hardw1re08:54
Agrajagtar xvjf whatever.tar.bz208:54
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robotgeeklol08:54
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Evil_TacoI did and its saying command not found08:55
iiiearslol08:55
AgrajagEvil_Taco: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:55
bimberihardw1re: ... although Agrajag's post is probably what you're after :)08:55
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renedoxsudo apt-get life08:55
renedoxsudo apt-get install life08:55
robotgeekEvil_Taco: in the terminal, do apt-get install build-essential08:55
robotgeekrenedox: apt is good, but i doubt it's that good :)08:56
Agrajagrobotgeek: you forgot the sudo08:56
Yabdenlife is only available in rpm format, and not convertable by alien08:56
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skplcan someone tell me how to set the default terminal in kde?08:56
Agrajagcan't do that to newbies08:56
renedoxrobotgeek: haha :P08:56
robotgeekAgrajag: :(08:56
Agrajagjust sayin' is all08:56
robotgeekAgrajag: good point, noted!08:56
Evil_Tacothanks guys, I appreciate it :D08:56
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bleachnarutoanyone know how to operate qemu?08:56
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crimsun_(forums up)08:57
robotgeek:)08:57
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robotgeekcrimsun_: someone stole your nick?08:57
Oewyn!ndiswrapper08:57
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:57
crimsun_robotgeek, no, both clients are mine08:57
robotgeekcrimsun_: ah, okay! i got stuck in a screen like that once :)08:58
bleachnarutoanyone watch anime?08:58
crimsun_(different location)08:58
robotgeekbleachnaruto: #ubuntu-offtopic08:58
Oewynhrmmm... sudo modprobe ndiswrapper didn't work... hrmmmmmm08:58
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robotgeekcrimsun_: ah, ok08:58
bleachnarutohi robotgeek08:58
iandoes anyone use Mozilla Thunderbird?08:58
Oewyngot the package installed, and had the module created08:58
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hardw1rebah i thought so, turns out i had the command right, just that it hadnt downloded right so it wasnt an actual .bz2 file lol08:59
bleachnarutorobotgeek, can u give me a link to the documentation part for qemu? cuz i am having a really great trouble finding it....08:59
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odysseyhow can i sudo into another username?08:59
BROKEN_LADDERi installed enlightenment but i can't see it as a choice in kdm..anyone?08:59
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diemanmmmm08:59
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bleachnarutoi tend to get to go to the bit for virtual machine, then, when i click qemu, it says "404 error"09:00
diemanlove having a fast mirror09:00
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dieman750 kB/s :)09:00
crimsun_dieman, lucky umn.edu dog09:00
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NewUserhallo09:00
NewUseranybody can help me09:00
diemancrimsun_: heh, where you at?09:00
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diemanthis is just at home09:00
diemanyay for comcast gold tier.09:00
diemanits like 6-7 now, but 8mbps evetually09:01
diemanand 10mbps someday09:01
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crimsun_dieman, NC. I was at IBM Rochester earlier and used ftp.cs.umn.edu constantly09:01
diemanahh09:01
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diemancrimsun_: move to mirror.cs.umn.edu evetually09:01
robotgeekanyone know how to set ignore based on host?09:01
robotgeekin irssi?09:01
diemancrimsun_: and sorry when it stopped updaing sometime -- we were using tds.net as a mirror09:01
crimsun_dieman, yeah, I believe I ended up using mirror later09:01
diemanand tds kept on wacking out09:01
bimberiodyssey: su - <username>   <-- from the root terminal (or shell: "sudo -i")09:02
bleachnarutoanyone?09:02
bleachnarutoi really need help on qemu! but everyone is just treating me like a ghost09:02
ekimushi, i'm setting up ion (ion3) right now and the docs (/usr/share/doc/ion3/README.Debian|dock) state that there should be a file dock.lua somewhere but not even find tells me about it. any hints?09:02
bimberibleachnaruto: that's because we don't know09:02
crimsun_bleachnaruto, have you checked the documentation in /usr/share/doc/qemu*/ ?09:02
bleachnarutothanks for that response09:02
bimberibleachnaruto: yvw :)09:03
thoreauputicbleachnaruto: your affliction is known as "narcissism" - look it up09:03
diemancrimsun_: basically i only had a 80gb partition on ftp.cs, got a 300gb disk on mirror now09:03
crimsun_bleachnaruto, there also seems to be documentation at http://www.qemu.org/user-doc.html09:03
crimsun_dieman, excellent!09:03
robotgeekbleachnaruto is the same guy as ubuntu09:03
diemannow i just need to get gigE on that machine if the bw usage gets too high09:04
bleachnarutoubuntu?09:04
thoreauputicrobotgeek: I guess we knew that...09:04
Madpilotthoreauputic: no ops when they're needed for a little educational kicking... too bad09:04
bleachnarutogeez09:05
bleachnarutoill just use vmware isntead...09:05
crimsun_bleachnaruto, I just gave you two pointers...09:05
JulianSo, I have the library I need (netcfg) downloaded through synaptic/apt-get.  It won't let me do a build-dep on it.09:05
JulianWhat then?09:05
bleachnarutoty09:05
robotgeekthoreauputic: sorry, i had that guy on ignore (i guess he changed his nick, and i din't get that message). so, how do i block this guy ?09:05
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ColonelKernelwhat kind of job can I get if Im good enough at linux to not relaly have to ask questions anymore?09:05
diemancrimsun_: heh, but using half the disk now -- i put dvd images on there too09:05
bleachnarutobut anyway09:05
bleachnarutothanks guys09:05
ianI have a quick question for anyone using Windows, OSX or KDE right now.  It's related to a bug report I'm filing. Please message me if you've got a minute!09:05
diemanand debian-amd6409:05
bleachnarutofor that information09:05
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ColonelKernelpardon the typing skills im recovering from iv sedation09:05
bleachnarutobye09:06
diemanwhich i should setup to get rsynced all the time09:06
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poningrusomeone explain to me why mp3 playing capability is not in ubuntu out of the box?09:06
Yabdenlicensing issues09:06
thoreauputicponingru: licensing09:06
poningrudecoding is not patented only encoding is09:06
iiiearspatented file format mp3's09:06
HrdwrBoBponingru: wrong09:06
poningru?09:06
poningrudocs please09:06
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iiiears*.ogg is every bit as good09:07
bimberievidence of googling please09:07
poningrusearching turned up nothing09:07
poningruwell in the forums and ubuntu wiki09:07
ianiiiears: not when you have a .mp3 file... :)09:07
poningrumaybe I should try google09:07
Agrajagiiiears: that does someone with a bunch of mp3s a whole lot of good09:07
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poningruiiiears: the prob is .ogg is not as mature as .mp3 so it doesnt have as good decoders in the small players09:08
crimsun_poningru, http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html09:08
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mhi09:08
adriyelI might be nuts here or something, but its been my impression that ogg didn't sound as good as mp3's for music. this is from personal experience09:08
mhi09:08
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adriyelif I wanted quality though, I'd use flac.09:08
thoreauputicadriyel: you're nuts ;-)09:09
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drummer87hi all, quick question about breezy: if i install it alongside my hoary install on a separate partition, will it overwrite my current grub install?09:09
adriyeltoo bad I don't have any cd's, just dl'ed MP3's09:09
poningruwtf09:09
siimoanyone know where i can get some decorative cool fonts in ubuntu? like the ones knoppix live cd has09:09
poningruhmm ok09:09
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mhalo is there is any body who want to chat with me09:09
poningruI will bring this up thank you09:09
mhalo poningru09:09
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crimsun_poningru, note that a similar thread surfaced recently on debian-legal: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/07/msg00081.html09:10
naliothsiimo: get em off the knoppix cd09:10
mhalo09:10
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mhalo09:10
robotgeekm: ubuntu-offtopic09:10
bimberim: this is an ubuntu support channel, not for chat, if you have an ubuntu related question we'd love to help09:10
adriyelwtf @ m09:11
adriyelM$ fanboy?09:11
adriyel :P09:11
hardw1reO-o09:11
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thoreauputicheh, that guy didn't look very hard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo  I would imagine that might have been useful...09:12
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Madpilotwhat's the license on those fonts in the Knoppix LiveCD? Any reason they can't be added to Ubuntu's distro?09:12
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leo1can any help me!09:13
BurgundaviaMadpilot, likely not DFSG-free09:13
cafuegoBurgundavia: So they can go in extras, eh?09:13
naliothMadpilot: get em for yourself from the knoppix disk09:13
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leo1after i setup wireless router, my test web server is not work09:13
drummer87noone here using breezy??09:13
robotgeekleo1: just state your problem :)09:13
iiiearsnice discussion of mp3 licensing. - never saw the numbers before.09:13
Burgundaviacafuego, if they can be redistributed, then can go in multiverse09:13
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robotgeekdrummer87: me on breezy!09:14
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Madpilotnalioth: I actually pulled the Knoppix ISO down a while ago, I'll have to poke around...09:14
cafuegoMadpilot: What's the font names?09:14
Bobby_Gwhat kernel version is there in ubuntu 5.0409:14
Bobby_G?09:14
bimberi2.6.1009:14
barney_correct09:14
cafuegoBobby_G: 2.6.10 (with patches)09:14
leo1i think i made misconfuguraion with wireless router09:15
Bobby_Gok09:15
robotgeekleo1: okay, go ahead09:15
ColonelKernel2.6.10-5-686-smp here but i use the breezy kernel sources to compile my own09:15
drummer87robotgeek, will it overwrite my current grub config from hoary?09:15
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barney_2.6.10-5-386 here09:15
ColonelKernelIM compiling now but I wiped my old 2.6.12 b/c I am still wasted from anesthestic09:15
Madpilotcafuego: don't know, actually. I did one liveCD boot of Knoppix, just to make sure the burn worked09:15
robotgeekdrummer87: i am on ppc, and i upadted manually, not using the cdrmom :)09:15
ColonelKerneli dont remember anything today and I hope i didnt make an ass out of myself in teh recovery room09:16
Bobby_Gwhat does smp mean ?09:16
robotgeeks/cdrmom/cdrom09:16
cafuego!smp09:16
ubotucafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:16
cafuegoubotu: useless pos09:16
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, cafuego09:16
ColonelKernelBobby_G Symmetrical Multi processing I think09:16
cafuegoBobby_G: symmetric multi processing (multiple cpu's in a single computer)09:16
hardw1rebash: dch: command not found <--- anyone know why im getting this?09:16
Bobby_GI'm totally neew to this. Thechoice is between ubuntu and debian. have to use Linux in a school project . If I choose ubuntu I will come back here with many stupid questions =)09:16
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drummer87robotgeek, hmm, k... i wanted to install both together.. and not on ppc ;)09:16
cafuegoBobby_G: If you have a Hyperthreaded p4, you also want an smp kernel.09:17
drummer87although i would like to get a ppc to play with :P09:17
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ColonelKernelwhat im wondering is this - why is it symmetric ? its not like things are balanced09:17
cafuegohardw1re: You typed an incorrect command?09:17
robotgeekdrummer87: you x86 boys have it easy :)09:17
ColonelKernelcpu0 gets used WAY more than cpu109:17
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naliothdrummer87: apple.com/store and click on the red tag at the bottom right09:17
ColonelKernelIm pretty sure the programs decide what cpu to use instead of the kernel09:17
cafuegoColonelKernel: Not if the scheduler isn't broken.09:17
ColonelKernelcafuego cpu1 aint gonna get used if the prog aint written for smp09:18
cafuegoColonelKernel: no, the kernel decides and can move them; soemtimes it's more cost effective to not move and and slightly overuse one of the cpus though.09:18
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cafuegoColonelKernel: well duh.09:18
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cafuegoColonelKernel: That doesn't mean prog1 can't run on cpu0 whilst the kernel runs on cpu109:19
pcharkyHey people, can anybody help me with a firewall probem?09:19
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ColonelKernelHMM09:19
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iiiearscan you use apt to fetch a package without installing it?09:19
ofer0hi, i write "sudo -i" and it probably changed something on my system because i cant log in to my username09:19
naliothiiiears: yes you can09:19
ColonelKernelI never considered using cpu1 for kernel - that would make an insane performance increase!!09:19
cafuegoColonelKernel: Seeing as even an idle linux box tends to run at least 20-odd processes and/or kernel threads, SMP makes sense.09:19
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iiiearsCool09:19
Burgundaviacafuego, hoary-extras is only for things like w32codecs (which is totally black) and libdvdcss2, which the dvda sues people over09:19
Bobby_GIs it easy to use an Intel Wireless Pro 2200 card in lastest ubuntu (5.04) ? I know some kernels have problems with that09:19
Burgundaviacafuego, despire have a nice license09:19
bimberiiiiears: apt-get -d09:20
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cafuegoColonelKernel: The kernel already does this kind of scheduling. it can move kernel threads between cpus etc.09:20
leo1i use netgear wireless router09:20
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cafuegoColonelKernel: if you enable SMP mode in top, you can see which CPU processes are running on.09:20
iiiearsThank You09:20
bimberiyw09:20
ColonelKernelcafuego well mine tends to keep pretty much everything on cpu0 - it still uses cpu1 but not as much09:20
robotgeekleo1: okay, go ahead and tell us your exact problem!09:20
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ofer0please can somebody help me? with sudo -i ?09:20
iiiearsman apt - was blinded with options - lol09:20
curutzhey can anyone tell me which folder is the bookmarks on firefox is stored?09:21
leo1before using router, webserver is work09:21
leo1after, not work09:21
ofer0curutz, its a file called "bookmarks.html"09:21
ofer0search for it09:21
curutzok09:21
curutzty09:21
leo1problem is misconfiguration in router09:21
naliothcurutz: you may start looking in ~/.mozilla-firefox09:21
drummer87nalioth, hehe.. still right out of my price range, i'm a student with no job09:21
cafuegoColonelKernel: if it runs ALL idle threads on cpu0 and ONE active one on cpu1, it's STILL redistributed the work optimally.09:21
poningrucurutz: its should be in your profile folder09:21
poningruits in ~/.mozilla/firefox09:22
robotgeekleo1: you might want to look at forwarding a few ports, look at www.portforward.com09:22
naliothdrummer87: ebay, then.09:22
robotgeekdrummer87: that's how i got this powerbook, 400$09:22
leo1yes,i read n tryed but09:22
thoreauputicubotu qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=109:22
ubotuthoreauputic: okay09:22
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robotgeekdrummer87: btw, i am also a student with no job :((09:23
bimberinice work thoreauputic :)09:23
cafuegoColonelKernel: I'm fairly sure the 2.6 kernels can (or are patchable to) set CPU affinity on a per-process basis, if you think you're smarter then the scheduler.09:23
leo1i made statis ip and point it, but no work09:23
cafuego(which admittedly isn't hard)09:23
thoreauputicbimberi: thanks - I think that guy needs to hone his google skills ;-)09:23
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bimberi:)09:23
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drummer87robotgeek, is it difficult to get ubuntu running nicely on the powerbook?09:24
naliothdrummer87: it is easy to get ubuntu on anything prior to the new imac G509:24
naliothdrummer87: i've got it running nicely on my DP 1.8 powermac09:24
ofer0after running "sudo -i" probably my home dir changed or something, and i cant log in - it says "permission denied" even though in /etc/passwd it says that it is my home dir, and the owner is me.09:25
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cafuegoofer0: did you change the owner of your homedir to root or something?09:27
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thoreauputicofer0: sudo -i plonks you into /root09:28
thoreauputic(root's home dir)09:28
leo1i run only 2 com behind router09:28
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leo11 laptop with wirelass, test webserver on 1 desktop09:29
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iiiearsnalioth - the simple "YES" answer to the apt question forced a reread of "man apt-get" - some new knowledge snuck in.. - thanks a lot. - lol09:29
thoreauputicofer0:  ctrl-d to exit the root shel, BTW (if you didn't know)09:30
naliothiiiears: yes, knowledge is sneaky that way09:30
thoreauputic*shell09:30
ofer0thoreauputic, i know09:30
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ofer0cafuego, no09:30
hardw1re/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt <--- what do i need to install for that to work then?09:30
cafuegothoreauputic: sudo -i also *makes* you root, so you shouldn't be getting permission denied.09:30
thoreauputicofer0: OK -just in case :)09:30
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cafuegohardw1re: What are you compiling?09:30
leo1for webserver ip to pointout, i use internal Lan ip. is it right?09:30
hardw1rekernel09:30
cafuegohardw1re: use 'make menuconfig'09:31
kevin06Really dumb question. I just installed Visual Boy Advance with Synaptic, but what is the command to run it?09:31
cafuegohardw1re: install libncurses5-dev09:31
hardw1re/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses09:31
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hardw1reok cheers09:31
thoreauputiccafuego: I was wondering if maybe his ~/.Xauthority has changed owners...09:31
cafuegothoreauputic: That's possible; ofer0 can you log in OK on a console?09:32
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cafuegoooher, -13-rc7 is out09:33
ColonelKernelrebooting brb09:33
thoreauputicofer0: what does ls -l /home/youruser/.Xauthority say?09:33
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cafuego<hehe> This patch contains "RED-PEN" notes from teh teacher ;-)09:34
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leo1robotgeek_ the problem now take 2 days but i can't still fix09:36
m0r0nIs there a tool to extract rar-files compressed on windows?09:36
cafuegom0r0n: unrar-nonfree09:36
bateauwhats the apt-get command for glib and so on?09:37
cafuegobateau: apt-cache search glib09:37
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bmecoliheyt what's the command to change permissions?09:37
bateauthere was this in-one-command for all of that stuff :x09:37
cafuegobmecoli: chmod09:37
bmecoliI need to change some as root09:37
cafuegobmecoli: such as?09:38
bmecolichmod *.* 777 would free everything in current directory right?09:38
drummer87what's the minimum requirements (CPU/RAM) for ubuntu on a ppc? same as PC?09:38
thoreauputicbateau: that's kind of vague... what are you wanting to do ?09:38
bmecolia directory in xmms09:38
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cafuegobmecoli: yes, but that would normally not be a good idea. What are you trying to do?09:38
naliothdrummer87: ubuntu will run on any new world machine (with the exception of the newer imacs)09:38
bmecoliadd some files to the input plugin folder09:39
naliothdrummer87: i've also seen it running on an old-world 233mhz powerbook09:39
cafuegodrummer87: It should run fine on anything G3 233 with probably 128 ram ABSOLUTE mimimum; 256 nice 512Mb comfortable.09:39
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cafuegodrummer87: I've run it on an old-word G3/233 with 192 mb just fine.09:40
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bonvenondrummer87: same here09:40
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drummer87hmm, same as for x86.. i think there are some old eMacs at my school, sounds like it'll work on those then :)09:40
Kromonoshallo :)09:40
drummer87i'm sure they don't need them there09:41
cafuegodrummer87: If you have less than 128Mb ram, do a 'server' install, then add a lightweight wm like *box09:41
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bateauwhere can i find a full repository list? there was this list in pastebin or something09:41
Kromonoshuhu09:41
naliothbateau: packages.ubuntu.com09:41
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thoreauputic!list09:41
ubotulist is, like, you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage09:41
thoreauputicbah09:42
thoreauputic!sources09:42
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96909:42
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Kromonoswhy doesn't work ubuntu with a resulution of 1024x768 at my laptop?09:43
bateaui just installed that other version breezy badger or what it was... should i use some other repository list?09:43
cafuegobateau: nah, it's going to be broken either way.09:43
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bateaucafuego: what you mean?09:44
hardw1rehmm, im currently looking thru the kernel config and alot of it looks to be pre-configured...09:44
iiiears!topic09:44
cafuegobateau: breezy is broken09:44
cafuegobateau: as in: not stable09:44
durtanybody know how to disable the "tap-and-clicking" on a touchpad?09:45
naliothiiiears: you want <nickname> see /topic09:45
iiiearsAh - okay.. - thx09:45
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Kromonoswhy doesn't work ubuntu with a resulution of 1024x768 at my laptop?09:46
bateauaha09:46
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durtKromonos: is that your highest resolution?09:46
Kromonos640x48009:46
Tonkaplease help me put the trash icon on my kubuntu desktop. right now its in the lower right hand corner.09:46
YabdenKromonos try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the right stuff09:46
durtKromonos: breezy or hoary?09:47
Kromonosahh, ok. thx09:47
Kromonoshoary09:47
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Alfred1881Alfred1881 i need a prog to convert mp3 to wav :)09:48
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ekimusdoes kdm ignore the .xinitrc?09:48
Yabdenekimus yep09:49
thoreauputicekimus: yes, you need .xsession ( and choose system session or whatver it is in kdm)09:49
cafuegoAlfred1881: mpg32109:50
thoreauputicekimus:  mv .xinitrc .xsession    (should work)09:50
ofer0after running "sudo -i" probably my home dir changed or something, and i cant log in - it says "permission denied" even though in /etc/passwd it says that it is my home dir, and the owner is me.09:50
ekimusthoreauputic: system session is for gdm? (i actually don't care about the login manager just)09:50
iiiearshttp://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/MP3-CD-Burning.html  nice tips09:50
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ekimusthoreauputic: they are symlinked :)09:50
cafuegoyes, KDM ignores them all. hence it's crap.09:51
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thoreauputicekimus: your .xsession and .xinitrc are symlinked?09:51
ofer0no ideas what could cause this problem?09:51
theBravewhats the default root password for ubuntu 5.04 ?09:51
ekimusthoreauputic: yes. since they actually use the same syntax (afaik) it worked for me so far09:51
thoreauputiccafuego: really? that's brain-damaged ...09:51
SeveastheBrave, there is none...09:52
thoreauputicekimus: looks like gdm would work better for you...09:52
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Seveas!tell theBrave about root09:52
bonvenontheBrave: it's the same as your user password09:52
thoreauputicekimus: for gdm you can also put a *.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions09:52
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ekimusthoreauputic: dpkg-reconfigure is enough for ubuntu or do i have to update-rc.d as well?09:52
ofer0why the hell in ubuntulinux wiki they say to run "sudo -i" instead of "su" if it causes so much problems?!09:53
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thoreauputicekimus: um... thet doesn't make sense09:53
Yabdensudo is more secure09:53
thoreauputicofer0: it doesn't, normally09:53
ofer0thoreauputic, you ever tried this command?09:53
icec_76hi, can you help me with firefox im trying to upgrade to1.0.6 ,after i removed 1.2 it says cannot be upgraded?09:53
thoreauputicofer0: of course09:54
Seveasofer0, it causes no problems...09:54
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ekimusthoreauputic: i meant to change the login manager from kdm to gdm ist dpkg-reconfigure gdm enough, or do I have to update the runlevels too with update-rc.d09:54
ofer0Seveas, i did "sudo -i" and it changed something, i dont know what exactly. i cant login to my regular username because of that. the reason: permission denied09:54
Seveasekimus, that might be needed...09:54
durt!java09:54
ubotuhmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:54
thoreauputicekimus: ah i see! dpkg-reconfigure should do it09:54
Seveasofer0, that must have been your mistake09:54
Seveasi could have happened with su too09:54
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Seveaswhat's the error on login?09:55
ekimuswell I'll just try, a reboot a day keeps the kernel oops away :)09:55
ofer0Seveas, even though im the owner of /home/username, and in /etc/passwd its my correct home dir09:55
Seveasekimus, *g*09:55
Seveasofer0, what's the exact error on login?09:55
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icec_76hi, can you help me with firefox im trying to upgrade to1.0.6 ,after i removed 1.2 it says cannot be upgraded?09:55
thoreauputicekimus: have a look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager as well (quick way to change)09:56
durtuse opera09:56
icec_76i like firefox09:56
Seveasicec_76, remove all traces of firefox09:56
Seveasand then retry09:56
icec_76i did09:56
ofer0Seveas, it logs me out immediatly, says permission denied on changing some file in /home/username/. even when i enter my /home/username using gnome recovery mode, i cant read /home/username. only with root09:56
Seveasicec_76, ten please paste the complete output/error on the pastebin09:56
Yabdenicec_76 are you using the http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ source in /etc/apt/sources.list?09:56
knowledge_good night everyone09:57
icec_76yes09:57
Yabdencomment it out and remove firefox09:57
iiiearsg'nite09:57
Yabdenit is a known problem that a few people have been having09:57
Seveasofer0, if you can login as root, do this: chown -R username:username /home/username09:57
ofer0Seveas, did it already09:57
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icec_76i'll try09:57
Seveasstill no good?09:57
Yabdencomment out both entries of that site if you have two09:57
Yabdenit will definately fix your problem09:57
ofer0Seveas, yeah.09:57
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wahlauanyone here tried installing networkmanager via alien using the rpm?09:58
Seveasofer0, then chmod +w the_file_that_it_b0rks_about09:58
ofer0Seveas, +w is?09:58
Seveaswriteable by anyone09:58
ofer0k thanx ill try and come back09:58
Seveas(you change it back later once it's solved)09:58
wahlaumy hoary (Gnome to be specific) is crashing now10:02
wahlaucant even start terminal :(10:02
wahlauis breezy now pretty stable to test?10:04
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durtwahlau: you might not want breezy if you have a touchpad... grargh!10:06
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wahlauoh10:07
wahlaui have a touchpad :)10:07
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wahlaubut i use the red touch point10:07
wahlau:)10:07
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durtmaybe i just have no idea what im doing...10:07
IceDC571red touch point??10:07
ofer0Seveas, something very very strange. i did chmod -R +rw /home/user, AND I STILL CANT READ FROM IT!!!10:08
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IceDC571ofer0: have you tried chmod 777 -R /home/user?10:09
ofer0IceDC571, giving execute permission to files that not supposed to run, is wrong10:09
srijithofer0, I pity the poor "user" if you do 777 :)10:09
ofer0IceDC571, and no i didnt10:09
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ofer0srijith, heh :P10:10
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ofer0what could be the problem?? is that something related to gnome variables ?10:10
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benplaut'night10:12
srijithhow do I adjust the laptop gamma in linux/ubuntu10:12
srijithlaptop LCD I meant10:13
durtlaptop what?10:13
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wahlauwhat is the status of breezy now?10:14
Seveasofer0, what is the EXACT error you get when logging in?10:14
srijithdurt, gamma to calibrate the monitor10:14
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Seveaswahlau, pretty good, but not stable enough fir everyday use10:14
Seveassrijith, xgamma10:14
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srijithSeveas, I am looking for a frontend to xgamma, it is too primitive for layman user use..10:15
wahlauSeveas: thanks10:15
wahlaui need to consider because i screwed up my hoary10:15
wahlau:(10:15
IceDC571lol maybe thats why i run into problems when i give everything a chmod 77710:15
hardw1rehmmm, anyone know what this means, make[2] : *** No rule to make target `arch/x86_64/kernel/../../i386/kernel/bootflag.s', needed by `arch/x86_64/kernel/../../i386/kernel/bootflag.o'.  Stop.10:16
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srijithhaa .. got some.. lemme try them10:16
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Uthini-workwhat are the permissions to make a drive mount with read-write permissions?10:16
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Uthini-worki have 80 gigs that i can't write to10:16
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iiiearswhere are the xgamma settings saved?10:17
DrSpincould someone send me a default hoary sources.list please ??10:17
DrSpinor tell me where I can find one LOL10:17
iiiearsxgamma - neat tool10:17
wahlauguys, anyway i can reinstall gnome only?10:17
wahlaupossible?10:17
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ofer0Seveas, even thru the grub recovery console i cant enter my own /home/user, with +rw to all files, and user:user to all files.10:17
AvatarofVirgoCan some one tell me how to set up video cards manually in ubuntu.  Before I had suse and I ended up going to safe mode in grub and running sax2 after loggin into root.  I had to remove my video card plug in the monitor to my boards video and run sax2 because it would try to auto detect my card.  I have a very weird nvidia card that it gives a black screen when you load sax2.....10:17
JairunCaloth#crossover10:18
JairunCalothmeh10:18
AvatarofVirgoAny ways my video card is  a real chore to get to work in any distro.  How do I do it in ubuntu?10:18
iiiearsAvatar, - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    - does it.10:18
YabdenAvatarofVirgo sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:18
ofer0Seveas, IMHO, the exact error is not relevant, ofcourse i cant run gnome if my home directory is unaccessable.10:18
iiiears!resolution10:18
uboturesolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:18
DrSpin!sources10:18
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:18
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DrSpin!apt10:19
ofer0!sudo10:19
ubotuI guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto10:19
ubotuit has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:19
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iiiearsubotu you are a real timesaver.10:19
ubotuiiiears: I think you lost me on that one10:19
Madpiloteventually this whole channel will consist of nothing but people asking ubotu things, and it answering...10:20
durt!xgamma10:20
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, durt10:20
durt!ubuto10:20
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, durt10:20
durt!ubotu10:20
apokryphosMadpilot: doubtful10:20
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:20
AvatarofVirgoWhat about setting up my dialup connection?10:20
iiiearsxgamma settings written to xorg.conf   ?10:20
Seveasofer0, if you don't tell the exact error I can't help you ....10:20
apokryphosdurt: don't abuse the bot :P10:20
AvatarofVirgoIt wouldn't detect my external serial modem for some odd reason.10:20
ofer0Seveas, ok, if you insist.. ill go check10:20
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Uthini-worklol10:21
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hardw1rehttp://paste.husk.org/399610:21
Madpilotapokryphos: I happened to switch back to my channel view just as three people in a row !'ed ubotu, and the thought occured to me... ;)10:21
cafuego!hi10:22
ubotucafuego: Not a clue10:22
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Seveashardw1re, use make-kpkg to build ubuntu kernels...10:22
cafuegoThat damn bot is _so_ broken10:22
Seveasthe !hi command is a plugin right?10:22
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cafuegoSeveas: yeah, which is on, afaik10:22
cafuego!hello10:23
ubotucafuego: What?10:23
DrSpincould I convince someone to paste a default hoary sources.list for me please??10:23
apokryphos!sources10:23
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:23
SeveasDrAwesome, pastebin/96910:23
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cafuegoubotu: stop being broken10:23
ubotuWell, fix me then!10:23
Seveashehehe10:23
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Uthini-workonce i get my 80g to mount with read write10:24
Uthini-workcos then i can backup10:24
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DrSpin!repositories10:24
uboturumour has it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:24
DrSpin;)10:24
=== cafuego braises cabbage
iiiearscafuego - nice work! :)   ubotu is getting really smart10:24
cafuegoiiiears: hey, don't blame me10:25
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=== apokryphos wonders if Seveas deleted the E factoid oO
Uthini-work!mount10:26
ubotuI guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives10:26
Uthini-work!windowsdrives10:26
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically10:26
cafuegoapokryphos: factoids referring to vapourware aren't welcome ;-)10:26
apokryphoscafuego: I'm still hoping :P10:27
DrSpinwhy would apt be ignoring "IGN" hoary-backports ??10:27
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cafuegoapokryphos: I was hopeful back in 2002, but honestly...10:27
apokryphoscafuego: when was 0.16 released?10:28
cafuego1998 or something10:28
apokryphoscafuego: :-O. Didn't know it was so long ago. Are they perfectionists or is it genuinely never ready?10:28
ofer0Seveas, ok i copied it by hand, here it is:10:28
iiiearsDo the developers know how many people are using Ubuntu everyday?   - do they record the ntp check on boot up?10:28
apokryphosthat's worse than Dabian 8)10:28
hardw1remy kernel wont compile :(10:29
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Nermalhardw1re, why are you compiling a kernel ?10:29
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CyberpredQuestion : is there software on ubuntu to control web access time? (internet cafe for a school)10:29
ofer0"your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. if you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installtion problem or that you may be out of diskspace. Try logging with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.10:29
ofer0and than when i click "show details" it gives me the following 2 lines:10:29
Uthini-worktahts the thing with linux10:29
Uthini-workso much stuffs to install10:30
Nermalnah10:30
Uthini-workb4 u know it ur machine is flood with garbage10:30
Nermalat least with linux its all in one place10:30
Nermalrather than on loads of different cds / websites10:30
ofer0"(gnome-session:7717):libgnomevfs-WARNING **:Unable to create ~/.gnome dir : permission denied10:30
Nermalif you don't know what you're doing however..10:30
hardw1recause there aint a 2.6.12 available on the apt-gets :P10:30
Nermalhardw1re, why do you need 2.6.12 ?10:31
ofer0"Could not create per-user gnome conf dir `/home/ofer/.gnome` : permission denied10:31
DrSpinit seems like the backports on #969 are rather outdated10:31
DrSpin40410:31
ofer0Seveas, thats all..10:31
Nermalofer0, make sure your home dir has the correct permissions10:31
ofer0Nermal, did it10:31
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Nermalor do chown -R ofer:users /home/ofer/10:31
hardw1recause i want to see if it'll run things better10:31
Nermalhardw1re, I doubt it10:31
PPowerExtras are down AGAIN!10:32
Nermalanything in the changelogs significant ?10:32
ofer0Nermal, did it too ..10:32
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ofer0=\10:32
PPowerNeeds authorization for the mirrormax one10:32
Nermalofer0, disk space ?10:32
ofer0Nermal, atleast 150GB free10:32
Nermalhmmm10:32
Nermalmounted as rw10:32
Nermal?10:32
hardw1recause on 2.6.11 my quickcam doesnt work, does on 2.6.10-5, but then theres a problem with the nvidia drivers on 2.6.10-5, i think :S10:32
ofer0Nermal, yeap10:32
apokryphosPPower: there's several mirrors on about?10:32
Nermalhardw1re, you could just use a breezy kernel10:32
Nermalgrab the .deb and install it10:33
PPowerI know but they are all out of sync and it seems the ones on the forum are not working.10:33
hardw1rehmm, thats a smart suggestion10:33
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ofer0Nermal, thanx for trying :)10:33
Nermalofer0, sorry :|10:33
DrSpinI was getting the IGN for the mirrormax one10:33
ofer0Seveas -> any idea with the new info?10:33
apokryphosPPower: you're advised to not use the forum ones10:33
Yabdenskip the mirrormax one, it has been giving people troubles, especially with firefox, gaim, and gimp-data10:34
PPowerThen what should I use. PlanetMirror is down10:34
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Yabdenwhatever sources you usually use minus the mirrormax entries10:34
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eliphas_hello10:35
PPowerIm trying this one with large hostingspace but that doesnt seem to have j2re or whatever on it10:35
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eliphas_hello10:35
Yabdenyeah someone i was talking to had to download the j2re package and install it manually10:35
qiuhello10:35
m0rphxhi10:35
eliphas_I have a problem with dns10:36
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eliphas_when I surf I have to surf with the ip because I browser don't resolve the ip10:36
eliphas_hostname sorry10:36
Yabdenhttp://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb10:36
naliotheliphas_: by chance have you been using azureus?10:36
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eliphas_long time ago10:37
PPowerThanks10:37
eliphas_why ?10:37
apokryphosPPower: planet mirror one is the worst -- it's often down. I always used the mirrormax one10:37
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hardw1reNermal: having some trouble finding the kernels for breezy :S10:37
naliotheliphas_: how long ago, and how long has your machine not been resolving hostnames?10:37
PPowerBut mirrormax is down. Requires autorization10:37
Nermalhardw1re, one sec10:38
DrSpinPPower: apokryphos: I have the same problem10:38
PPowerI wish someone would get their act together and merge it with official10:38
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hardw1rewait think i've found it Nermal10:39
apokryphosPPower: hoary-extras is illegal10:39
apokryphosor, at least it was; haven't checked it lately10:39
hardw1rein the pool folder10:39
PPowerHuh?10:39
PPowerHow can it be10:39
apokryphosBecause of some of the software it holds/held; was not legal to do so10:39
eliphas_nalioth since yesterday but I change my isp and got a routeur10:39
PPowerIf it was well ill be annoyed because no way am I downloading Java of sun10:39
PPowerCant they just take thoses off10:40
PPowerBetter not be the nvidia drivers10:40
apokryphosI don't think java is in hoary-extras anymore10:40
naliotheliphas_: i have the same problem, and i can't figure whether it's java or azureus. what version of java are you running?10:40
Yabdenthat link i pasted is to java, and it works fine10:40
eliphas_no when I surf to a friend I got no problem10:40
PPowerBother10:40
Nermalhardw1re, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.12%2Flinux-image-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb&md5sum=8675219cef87d1c29108bb4bda5f5926&arch=i386&type=main10:40
eliphas_I got problem only at my place10:40
PPowerIs backports OK?10:41
eliphas_and I am using bittornado with no problem10:41
Nermalhardw1re, you can use packages.ubuntu.com to find it (search for linux-image) :)10:41
apokryphosPPower: yes; it's an Ubuntu project, now.10:41
eliphas_java is in backport I think10:41
eliphas_I got java from it10:41
apokryphoseliphas_: no10:41
naliotheliphas_: what does "surf to a friend" mean?10:41
apokryphoseliphas_: removed from that quite some time ago10:41
Nermalhardw1re, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb also works :)10:41
eliphas_surf = browsing10:41
PPowerThats odd. Extras has just come up again. And its getting w32codecs. And thats legal cause I own 95, 98 and XP10:42
DrSpinI can't donlwoad java and the only server I'm having trouble with is for hoary-extras10:42
ekimusis there a way to nice memory usage not only cpu usage? or does nice all of that for me?10:42
Yabdendownload java from that link i posted damnit10:42
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PPowerExtras is definetly up now. Try refresh synaptic10:42
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DrSpinPPower: mirrormax ??10:43
DrSpinPPower: just main worked...10:43
PPowerYep. If only IRC supported picturs10:43
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PPowerThis is restricted10:43
apokryphosI've never seen mirrormax down, really...10:43
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PPowerOf extras10:43
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PPowerYabden: I have downloaded it now10:44
PPower:-)10:44
DrSpinI'm getting "IGN" | Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restricted Packages10:44
DrSpinThat's for everything except MAIN10:44
eliphas_but my problem is odd I can browse some site but some site like google I can't manage to reach it10:44
DrSpineliphas_: are you behind a router?10:44
PPowerRight. Now just for main.10:44
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naliotheliphas_: so you can browse to your friends computer? or at your friends computer?10:44
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eliphas_I have a laptop if I go to to my friend I can browse but he isusing another isp10:45
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eliphas_weird10:46
naliotheliphas_: yes, very weird10:46
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PPowerI will test main soon10:46
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thespiritoftalhow can i connect to an address using ssh2 protocol?10:47
escso, should I upgrade my kernel?10:47
nalioththespiritoftal: ssh <address>10:47
DrSpinPPower: now main won't work -- I can browse it via normal HTTP --10:48
DrSpin:/ ??10:48
PPowerWhere is msstcorefonts from10:48
naliotheliphas_: if your situation is anything like mine, it should correct itself within a week10:48
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Ngthespiritoftal: as nalioth says, or -2 if you really want to force it10:49
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kreep-hi, is there a way i can browse ubuntu packages with a browser, something like packages.debian.org10:50
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kreep-oh wait, nevermind taht10:50
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Ngkreep-: packages.ubuntu.com ;)10:50
hardw1reNermal: hmm theres linux-images, but what about linux-headers?10:50
churd-tzuhey guys10:50
kreep-thabks Ng, today i`m just plain stupid10:51
nAnyone here know how to use d4x? I just left my PC on all night to download a few .isos and it says all 3 are 100% done but the files are nowhere to be found!10:51
churd-tzuI installed ubuntu, then installed windows on another partition... any idea how to get grub back on?10:51
Nghehe10:51
DrSpindeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras/main universe multiverse restricted10:51
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DrSpinLOL oops10:51
naliothchurd-tzu: there is an article on the wiki.ubuntu.com10:51
eliphas_like from my home if I go to google.com I got a connection refuse but i go to http://www.ubuntu.com it works10:51
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Yabdenchurd-tzu http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation10:51
Seveaschurd-tzu, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:51
churd-tzuw00t10:52
SeveasYabden, please don't advise ubuntuguide crud10:52
Seveas!ubuntuguide10:52
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned10:52
Yabdenit works fine10:52
YabdenNEVER10:52
robertbbhaha10:52
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saintFrancehello guys! its been awhile10:52
SeveasYabden, ubuntuguide is crap10:52
Yabdenit is a decent resource10:52
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Seveaspoeple in here spent countless hours solving problems caused by it10:52
naliothchurd-tzu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows10:52
Seveaspeople*10:52
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Yabdenill be more careful recommending it, but i know for a fact that what i linked works10:53
saintFrancehey guys how do i get linux to read the other drives i have and the my other operating system files and stuff10:53
Nermalhardw1re, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb10:53
Nermalsame dir.. don't be lazy :)10:53
PPowerExtras down again10:53
PPowerGet:1 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B] 10:53
PPowerGet:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release.gpg [189B] 10:53
PPowerGet:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg [189B] 10:53
PPowerGet:4 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release [16.9kB] 10:53
PPowerHit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release10:53
PPowerHit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release10:53
PPowerHit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages10:53
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SeveasFOOL10:53
Seveasnever paste in here10:53
Nermallol10:53
Seveasyou know that...10:53
YabdensaintFrance you need to edit /etc/fstab10:53
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saintFrancehow do i do that?10:54
naliothsaintFrance: read your private msgs10:54
SeveassaintFrance, windows/mac drives?10:54
saintFranceoh lol10:54
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Yabdeni already know how to mount drives damnit i dont need queries about it10:54
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KyynaraMy problem is this: I can't alt+tab away from a game (quake2) for some reason, but is it possible to start the game in another "X window" so that I can ctrl+alt+FX between the two X clients?10:54
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jebemsuomalaisia?10:55
SeveasKyynara, you can use applications -> system tools -> new login to get that extra X10:55
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Kyynarathanks10:56
ali_hi there i want to take the screen shots of my ubuntu installation ? is it possible ?10:56
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Seveasali_, yes10:56
ali_anybody have used qemu ? will it work to install ? over linux ?10:56
Seveasuse the prt.scr button :)10:56
NgI'm told qemu is goood enough10:56
Seveas!quemu10:56
ubotuSeveas: What?10:56
Seveas!qemu10:56
ubotufrom memory, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=110:56
Ngsomeone asked a similar question on a lug ml yesterday ;)10:56
Seveas^-- ali_10:56
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Kromonos|aFkHow can I install mp3?10:57
Seveas!mp310:57
ubotuI heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support10:57
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Kromonos|aFkthx10:57
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ali_but Seveas how to take the shots10:57
neo78ahoy everyboydy!10:57
Seveasuse the prt.scr button :)10:57
ali_Seveas, when i am installing /10:57
ofer0i have already take pictures of all ubuntu installtion screens. watch it here: http://www.imc-il.com/david/Project10:57
neo78my 2nd day of ubuntu...10:57
Seveasali_, oh, you mean during install10:57
ofer0Soon will be translated to english.10:58
ali_Seveas how to save the pic ?10:58
neo78maybe i should write a blog10:58
Seveasin that case: no10:58
ali_yep10:58
Kromonos|aFkWhy can't I install the streamripper?10:58
DrSpinE: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.510:58
DrSpin:/10:58
neo78anyways, how do i raise my screen resolution ?10:58
ali_i need to take pics of installation ? any way anyone knows ?10:58
SeveasDrSpin, grab a java deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl10:58
neo78(highest option i'm given is 1024 x 768)10:58
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Seveasali_, digital camera, photograph your screen :)10:58
Yabdenneo78 do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:58
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Wombathello10:59
ali_i guess if you qemu can imulate the installation will be better10:59
DrSpinneo78: #sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:59
Seveasofer0, how did you take these shots?10:59
ali_anyone have used qemu ?10:59
naliothSeveas: you've been a busy little beaver10:59
Danny|Anyone here from Croatia? ^^11:00
WombatI'm not from Croatia11:00
Danny|:|11:00
neo78i have a friend from croatia11:01
Kromonos|aFkWhat the fuck is going on there *argh*11:01
thongta## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network11:01
thongtadeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted11:01
thongtadeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted11:01
thongta## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced11:01
thongta## after the final release of the distribution.11:01
thongtadeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted11:01
thongtadeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted11:01
thongta## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'11:01
thongta## repository.11:01
Kromonos|aFkNo mpeg streaming11:01
thongta## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu11:01
thongta## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to11:01
thongta## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in11:01
Kromonos|aFkno mp3 playing11:01
apokryphosthongta: don't paste in here11:01
thongta## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security11:01
thongta## team.11:01
Danny|neo78, doesnt help me much ^^ I'm asking due to probs with getting the croatian keyboard layout to work11:01
Kromonos|aFk*grml*11:01
neo78flooding...11:01
thongtadeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe11:01
apokryphosgah11:01
thongtadeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe11:01
thongtadeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted11:01
thongtadeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted11:01
naliothSeveas: you must have blinked11:01
thongtadeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe11:02
thongtadeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe11:02
thongtadeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse11:02
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Seveasjeez11:02
neo78*sigh* thanks Seveas11:02
Seveasi am away for 3 seconds11:02
Wombatwhew11:02
Seveasthongta, get out, get some netiquette and don't come back before reading the channel topic11:02
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saintFrancenalioth: how do i run the winmac_fstab11:02
neo78./winmac_fstab methinks11:03
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naliothsaintFrance: read the instructions at the top of it (it opens in a text editor)11:03
SeveassaintFrance, sudo bash winmac_fstab11:03
apokryphosSeveas: hi, did you delete the E factoid?11:03
saintFranceyes but it says11:03
neo78aah of course11:03
saintFranceit doesnt exist11:03
saintFrancein that folder11:03
neo78my memory doesn't last very long...11:03
saintFranceor something11:03
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Seveasapokryphos, not that I can remember11:03
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naliothsaintFrance: you have to execute things not in your $PATH with a ./  before the executable11:03
apokryphosok11:04
neo78Yabden, i get a message saying xserver-org is not installed11:04
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WombatWhere should I ask gtkmm questions? I am a computer programmer.11:04
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thongta1hi all11:04
thongta1i'm real sorry11:04
thongta1i have mistake about my paste11:05
apokryphosthongta1: for long pieces of text, use a pastebin11:05
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Seveasban avoiding is a good way to get a permanent ban11:05
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ofer0Seveas, i take these shots with KQemu11:06
ofer0you can take them if you want, GPL...11:06
ofer0GFDL11:06
ali_i am also using kubuntu11:07
ali_desktop on my ubuntu11:07
saintFranceguys it keeps saying "no such file or directory"11:07
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neo78how do i raise the resolution on ubuntu (i can only push it up as far as 1024x768)11:07
ofer0!google kqemu11:07
ubotuofer0: I don't know, could you explain it?11:07
naliothsaintFrance: when you do "ls winmac*" what does it tell you?11:07
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Yabdenneo78 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:08
WombatAny pointers on Gnome programming in C++? Where should I ask questions about gtkmm?11:08
iiiearsHeya Seveas! - Thanks again.11:08
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saintFrancei keep getting no such file or directory11:08
naliothsaintFrance: answer my last question, please11:09
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saintFrancethats what it said11:09
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naliothsaintFrance: then u need to find where you put it11:09
tencoi have problems setting up wpa_supplicant11:09
tencoi always get: Disconnect event - remove keys11:10
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saintFrancek11:10
saintFrancegot it sorry11:10
saintFrancehaha11:10
tenco?11:10
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hans__!java11:10
uboturumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:10
tencoi have problems setting up wpa_supplicant11:11
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neo78Yabden, thanks, i typed it in wrong the first time11:12
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NoHopehello all11:12
concept10anyone with NFS experience11:13
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lemonsforbreakfainstall boot problems, any help appreciated11:13
lemonsforbreakfahttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5972311:13
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neo78Yabden, damnit, that's a complicated program....11:14
neo78i just wanna change my res!!!11:14
churd-tzuI tried doing the manual grub setup, but it told me I didn't have /boot/grub/stage211:14
neo78not autodetect my mouse!11:14
saintFrancewhere can i get codecs/decoders for the media player?11:14
concept10!restricted11:14
ubotusomebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:14
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concept10lemonsforbreakfa, have suggestion for you11:16
lemonsforbreakfayes?11:16
concept10make three partitions on that drive11:16
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concept10windows xp, NTFS... linux, ext3 ... share partition fat3211:17
durtnight all - almost time to wake up :(11:17
concept10install windows first.11:17
ofer0its 12:20:18 here11:18
concept10lemonsforbreakfa, what size harddisc is it?11:18
lemonsforbreakfa160GB11:18
concept10well, divide accordingly, but thats the path I would take.11:19
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concept10works for me.11:19
lemonsforbreakfathat's what I'm trying at.  Ubuntu installation with Windows already there has issues11:20
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concept10the only difference, I have a external USB drive, 80 gigs, with two partitions ext3 and fat3211:20
wahlauanyone done Gnome reinstallation b4?11:20
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ali_what do you want to know11:21
ali_just upgrade11:21
concept10lemonsforbreakfa, if you install windows after installing ubuntu, you will not be able to boot it.  Windows overwrites the MBR11:21
ali_whalau use apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop11:22
wahlauvery good11:22
ali_apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop11:22
lemonsforbreakfaI've found that much on my own, but GRUB and LILO won't install when an NTFS partition is there11:22
wahlaumy gnome is crashing everytime i login11:22
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ali_what is the error11:22
wahlauno idea11:22
wahlaui can't even open Terminal11:22
wahlaukeep giving this dialog where i can restart, close or inform developer11:23
concept10how many drives do you have, just one?11:23
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lemonsforbreakfayes11:23
ali_try resinstall ;) good luck11:23
concept10are you trying to install GRUB or LILO   OR   GRUB and LILO11:23
concept10or?11:24
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wahlauali_: thans11:24
lemonsforbreakfaor11:24
ali_yw11:24
ali_;)11:24
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wahlaubetter than reinstall hoary :)11:24
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lemonsforbreakfaas in they both fail11:24
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concept10lemonsforbreakfa, I dont see what the problem could be, maybe if your trying to install on a fat32 system.11:25
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concept10were you trying to install ubunu on a fat32 system?11:25
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HateSpawnhey anyway to run geexbox with this11:25
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lemonsforbreakfano.  I installed Ubuntu to an ext3 partition.11:26
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lemonsforbreakfaI'll print this all out and try it again.  I just hope Windows stays bootable this time11:26
HateSpawnwith the live cd how do i get to the windows partitions?11:27
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SeveasHateSpawn: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically11:27
concept10lemonsforbreakfa, partition drives as you like first, install windows, install ubuntu and use grub11:27
lemonsforbreakfashould the non-NTFS drives be formatted prior to Windows install?11:28
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cantrel29hello, how can I reset the system time.11:28
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concept10lemonsforbreakfa, you could do that.11:28
Seveaslemonsforbreakfa, the installer can format them too11:28
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wahlaubtw, anyway i can upgrade gnome instead of using the current Ubuntu one?11:29
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ubuntu_heloo11:29
concept10Seveas, do you know how to setup an NFS client?11:29
ubuntu_what up11:29
Seveaswahlau, that's not recommended11:29
lemonsforbreakfaSaveas, it won't partition FAT32 on my machine11:29
Seveasconcept10, there's no need to set it up11:29
wahlauSeveas: ok, just wondering11:29
Seveasjust mount nfs partitions :)11:29
WizzoCan someone please help, everytime I install Ubuntu on my other computer, when rebooting I get Grub Error 18.11:29
wahlaubefore i give up and turn to Sarge11:29
wahlau:D11:29
WizzoIt has only started happening in the new version of Ubuntu.11:29
WizzoAnd Grub has also worked on any distro.11:29
HateSpawnwinmac_fstab just loads in gedit11:30
lemonsforbreakfanfs?11:30
concept10Seveas,  I am trying to get NFS working, im trying to mount a directory on my sarge server, but I think my client isnt setup right. I used this: sudo mount 192.168.2.31:/mnt/jukebox /media/nfs/ and got this: mount: RPC: Program not registered11:30
HateSpawnwhere might i place it11:30
kemikconcept10:  get nfs-common on client ?11:30
ubuntuafter booting up in kubuntu live, i much prefer the gnome ubuntu11:30
Wizzocan anyone help?11:30
Wizzoplease.11:30
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kemik!anyone11:31
WizzoI currently have no os on either computer as Windows got some damn virus (typical).11:31
ubotuwell, anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>11:31
HateSpawnwinmac_fstab where do i save it to?11:31
concept10kemik, I have it already. thats why I dont understand the error11:31
kemikHateSpawn:  anywhere.. doesnt matter11:31
kemikconcept10:  portmap ?11:32
HateSpawnkemik then restart the live cd?11:32
concept10kemik, yep, and running.11:32
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kemikconcept10:  rpc.statd ?11:32
WizzoPlease, I can't stand using a LiveCD...11:32
cantrel29hello, my system time is set to utc but I appear to be a day out. how do I synch time from the command line?11:32
kemikHateSpawn:  oh, a livecd.. i dunno =)11:32
WizzoI really don't feel like a lecture on how to sask questions.11:32
Wizzoask, even.11:32
concept10kemik, yep, running.11:32
HateSpawnpeople slow down,wait they'll get to u11:33
kemikWizzo:  uhm.. grub error 18? never heard of :/11:33
aleitnerdoes anybody know which xorg version will be shipped with breezy?11:33
WizzoIt's happened everytime I've tried installing the new version of ubuntu on that computer.11:33
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concept10aleitner, the SUPER version11:33
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fabbionealeitner: 6.9/7.011:34
aleitnerconcept10: hmmm (; does that one have a number?11:34
concept10aleitner, seriously, maybe you could check packages.ubuntu.org11:34
kemikWizzo:  http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_1811:34
aleitnerfabbione: aren't those two versions?11:34
WizzoThanks.11:34
aleitnerconcept10: packages says 6.8, but somehow I doubt that...11:34
fabbionealeitner: it means either 6.9 or 7.011:34
concept10kemik, any more ideas?11:35
aleitnerfabbione: ahh, so it is not decided yet?11:35
fabbionethe server is still at 6.8.211:35
fabbioneall the other stuff is already 6.9/7.011:35
kemikconcept10:  the server is ssetup correctly ?11:35
fabbionealeitner: no, it's a bit different and more complex to explain11:35
aleitnerfabbione: interesting. yes it seems it is not so trivial indeed (;11:35
WizzoOk I see the problem, Ubuntu put the boot in too far away from the start of the drive...11:35
WizzoCan I make a custom partition and get ubuntu to install into it?11:36
aleitnerfabbione: do you happen to know whether the r300 3d driver (open source) will make it in?11:36
WizzoAnd if so, how large would the partition need to be?11:36
aleitnerfabbione: thats the radeon driver for newer radeon cards...11:36
fabbionealeitner: no idea.. hounestly.. it seems it will, but i can't be sure11:36
srijithWizzo, make /boot as first partition and restrict it to 100MB or so11:36
WizzoOk, thanks very much.11:36
kemikconcept10:  http://www.freebsddiary.org/nfs-portmap.php11:36
aleitnerfabbione: cool. thanks anyway. i guess i will have to wait and see...11:37
WizzoI'll get back to you later if it works. :)11:37
srijithbut it is strange cos I though bootloaders no longer had problems like these...11:37
concept10kemik, bsddiary, heh..11:37
kemikconcept10:  yeah ;)11:37
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aleitnerok, thanks and cu11:38
bobmarleyhey11:38
frisbebo1where is the settings for if i wanne add a second g-card?11:38
kemikconcept10:  dont copy-paste the stuff, just adapt it to your install.. the same procedure could work slightly adapted11:38
concept10kemik, it should be almost the same almost on any *nix box11:38
frisbebo1in gnome?11:38
HateSpawnbrb11:39
HateSpawnwait11:39
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kemikconcept10:  seem like thay just restart the services on the server and tries mounting again on the client11:39
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kemikconcept10:  im running NFS too, (ubuntu client, debian server)11:39
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frisbebo1any1 running ubuntu with two screens/g-cards?11:40
HateSpawn\whats the MIN requierments HD space for ubutu? and will it Use a Boot vloader and find My GEEXBOX ,And Windows  and Let me Choose Them11:40
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blaqhey guys, is there a way for me to place a smb share into /etc/fstab through a graphical interface?11:40
kemikHateSpawn:  im not sure about the "official" requirements, but i'd say around 3gb... but im not sure ;)11:41
blaqwhen i used to use mandrake, it had a module in its system configuration and maintenance utility that would provide me with a nice graphical interface to /etc/fstab.conf and i was wondering if (k)ubuntu had the same11:41
HateSpawn3 gigers eh11:41
HateSpawnk11:41
frisbebo1blaq: gedit /etc/fstab rather11:41
kemikblaq:  possibly, but you can do it with a simple texteditor too11:41
HateSpawnlaters and thanks11:41
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blaqyeah but it was a huge pain in the arse to get all the right settings11:41
blaqi'd love if there was some option somewhere where i can right click something and click mount11:42
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neo78hello again...11:42
blaqremote:/ and smb:// just don't work for most applications11:42
neo78how do i import EVERYTHING from Outlook into Evolution?11:42
neo78most articles only seem to explain importing mail messages11:43
neo78what about calendar, contacts, memos, task list etc?11:43
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Madpilot!list11:44
ubotuhmm... list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:44
concept10kemik, i restarted the server on the sarge box and now it says permission denied.  could you post an example from /etc/export?11:44
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setepois easy to install ubuntu in a pc with sata disks?11:45
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tenco_the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\11:46
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concept10neo78, from what I know, you must export everything individually11:46
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naliothsetepo: it was cut-and-dried on my powermac with sata disks11:46
Whistlerhi11:47
Whistleris it possible to upgrade to breezy?11:47
Whistleror should i do fresh install11:47
Whistler?11:47
kemikconcept10:   /share/directory      boxthatcanmountIP#(options)11:47
naliothWhistler: if you want a headache, or two11:47
Seveasit's possible to upgrade11:47
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Seveasbut not advised to do it already11:47
Whistlerhm.11:47
concept10kemik, /mnt/jukebox 192.168.2.31(rw,root_squash,insecure)11:48
tenco_no one has wpa running here? :\11:48
Whistlerwhat a heck ill wait a few weeks11:48
concept10kemik, is that incorrect?11:48
kemikconcept10:  try removing root_squash,insecure11:48
kemikconcept10:  to try11:48
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wahlaure11:50
wahlaui think i figured out what's wrong11:51
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concept10kemik, BTW - I used this page: http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/nfs.htm11:51
neo78tenco, i have a little bit of experience with WPA11:51
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wahlaunothing was wrong with gnome, but it was due to the updated SCIM11:52
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fredforfaenwhats SCIM?11:53
neo78what's a good graphical DC++ client for ubuntu?11:53
goldfishgoogle it.11:53
ilba7ranyone know what is the gam_server and why it is eating up my cpu?11:54
icewtneo78, DC++ under wine11:54
m0rphxscim is a input method for x, to enter chinese for example11:54
ilba7r!gam_server11:54
ubotuilba7r: Syntax error in line 111:54
kemikconcept10:  mmh, that tutorial looks about right.. (i only skimmed it, but no glaring errors)11:54
kemikconcept10:  still no luck ?11:54
fredforfaen!gam11:54
ubotufredforfaen: Are you on ritalin?11:54
m0rphxilba7r: gam_server watches your harddrive for changes11:54
kemikneo78:  DC++ for linux11:55
m0rphxnautilus uses it to update the desktop11:55
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kemik!dcpp11:55
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, kemik11:55
kemikubotu dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4208411:55
ubotukemik: okay11:55
goldfishapt-cache search dc++11:55
ilba7rthanx mOrphx but why it is eating my cpu & am not using nautilus am using enlightenment at the moment11:56
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kemikubotu no dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 , a porting of the popular DC++ client11:56
ubotukemik: okay11:56
goldfishubotu: forget dcpp11:57
ubotui forgot dcpp, goldfish11:57
kemikgoldfish:   ?11:57
goldfishkemik:11:57
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kemikgoldfish:  care  to explain why you did that ?11:58
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goldfishkemik: Because it's useless information.11:59
goldfishAnd i'm bored.11:59
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kemikis it really useless? why so ?11:59
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kemikand "bored" is hardly justification for anything12:00
goldfishIt is.12:00
kemikif you're "bored" mayb you should not be here?12:00
goldfishkemik: press up 5 times and put it back in.12:00
kemikwhy dont YOU do it ?12:00
kemikand stop trolling12:00
ilba7r!info dnotify12:00
ubotudnotify: (Execute a command when the contents of a directory change), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.18.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 120 kB12:00
ilba7r!info gam_server12:01
kemikubotu dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 , a porting of the popular DC++ client12:01
_Devin_when will be "Breezy RC1" released?12:01
ubotukemik: okay12:01
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Adrossmy comp seems to be maxxing out at idle. Two things, this only started today, and system monitor won'12:03
Adrosst tell me whats using it12:03
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tvo_Devin_, October 6th, ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule )12:04
kemikAdross:  try "top" from a commandline12:04
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Adrosskemik: everything's at 0, except for a few, which are below 2%, which certainly doesn't account for...this12:05
Seveasgoldfish: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct12:05
goldfishOk.12:05
Adrossah, never mind, killed beagle seemed to fix it12:05
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Adross*killing12:05
Seveasand NEVER just delete things fromm ubotu...12:06
goldfishOk/12:06
Adrossthanks anyway everyone12:06
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xenomeliteforcehi all. Anyone got a Trust Spacecam running? It only works with Video 4 Linux 2 (V4L2) for me, but AMSN, ... only use V4L :-/12:08
xenomeliteforceit's a Spacecam 12012:08
DjKritical-I'm getting an error while trying to install ubuntu for the first time.... dpkg error processing linux-restricted-modules - dependancy problems - leaving unconfigured12:08
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DjKritical-anyone know why that might happen?12:10
DjKritical-any more importantly.. should I stop the installation?12:11
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SeveasDjKritical-, whoah, which version is that?12:12
DjKritical-5.04 I think12:13
Seveasofficial CD or home-baked?12:13
DjKritical-I downloaded it last night from the main site12:13
DjKritical-burnt it just now12:13
DjKritical-are you thinking currupted Image?12:13
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WizzoIt worked.12:14
WizzoThanks for your help.12:14
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tenco_the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\12:15
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cashi, I've a problem when logging into my breezy pc. It takes almost three minutes before i'm in and then i have an error that my XKB configuration is wrong.12:16
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cascan anyone tell me what could be wrong?12:16
DjKritical-okay.. I'm going to re-download ubuntu =(12:17
twilightcas, search in bugzilla.ubuntu.com12:17
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twilightit's a known problem12:17
castnx twilight found it12:18
SeveasDjKritical-, before burning verify the md5sum of the iso12:18
Seveasand burn at low speed12:18
cyphaseDjKritical, try using Graveman12:18
cyphasebetter then the nautilus burning12:18
DjKritical-I downloaded the ISO in windows... I've never checked an MD5 sum before also..12:21
cantrel29hello, I would like to know how to reset my system clock from the command line.  Can anyone help?12:21
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cascantrel29: man date12:22
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otepei does anyone ever encounter this:12:23
cantrel29cas: right, but I thought the clock was supposed to be synched with a date server. so how can you force it to resynch?12:23
oteperror: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub12:23
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ali_how to install from hard disk12:24
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cascantrel29: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart12:25
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DjKriticalCan anyone tell me how to do an md5 check of the ubunti iso file in windows?12:25
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ali_can anyone tell me how to install from the hard disk12:25
cantrel29cas: thankyou very much. that worked a charm!12:26
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ali_i have the iso on my fat32 partition what is the possible way to access it and insall from the iso image ?12:26
casDjKritical: there are many programs for that.12:26
casDjKritical: http://www.fastsum.com/ was the first hit in google ;)12:26
lemonsforbreakfahttp://wxchecksums.sourceforge.net/ from The Source12:27
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ali_is there any possible floppy to boot because i tried to create a folder for boot and use grub for dos but that failed12:28
lemonsforbreakfadoes anyone know of a program to format FAT32 partitions >32GB?12:29
otephmmm12:29
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liableum, isnt the limit on file size, not partition?12:29
kemikboth12:30
kemiklemonsforbreakfa:  FAT32 isnt capped on 32gb, only in windows paritioning12:30
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liablehmm, was sure I had a 40G one at some stage..12:30
otepei does anyone ever encounter this:12:30
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oteperror: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub12:30
lemonsforbreakfain FAT32 files have to be <4GiB and partitions have to be <2TiB12:30
kemikliable:  that is correct, the limit is far higher than 32gb12:30
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lemonsforbreakfaI know it's only capped in windows.  I need a program to do it12:30
kemiklemonsforbreakfa:  yup. i think Partition MAgic will do it for you12:31
ali_is there a way to install from image on the ?12:31
liablefdisk....12:31
ali_hard drive12:31
kemiklemonsforbreakfa:  or any linux tool12:31
lemonsforbreakfaUbuntu install fails to format it12:31
kemikali_:  burn the image to a cd and boot?12:31
kemiklemonsforbreakfa:  try using a livecd like knoppix perhaps ?12:31
kemiklemonsforbreakfa:  not sure why ubuntu installer would fail12:32
kemiklemonsforbreakfa:  or use partition magic (for windows)12:32
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ali_kemik, is there a way to directly install from the hard disk ?12:32
lemonsforbreakfagetting partition magic12:32
ali_i have read it is possible to install directly from the hard drive ?12:32
neo78when will we actually be able to play games on linux?12:32
ali_now can ?12:33
neo78i'm busy downloading the myst v demo12:33
ali_you dont have gnome ?12:33
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DjKriticalOkay I don't understand how to check an iso file against the md5sum.txt file contained inside the ubuntu iso file. I've downloaded 3 programs which make their own md5 sums... but none of them will check this existing one12:34
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lemonsforbreakfaDjKritical: extract the contents to your HD then use WXChecksums for it12:35
DjKriticalcheers =)12:35
lemonsforbreakfaI don't think any utilities check files inside an iso12:35
DjKriticalokay because thats what I really didn't know12:36
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caslemonsforbreakfa: afaik is the checksum for the whole isofile, not it's contents12:36
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DjKritical?12:36
JowiDjKritical: md5sum for windows with docs: http://theopencd.sunsite.dk/md5.php12:36
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lemonsforbreakfa...oh.  I thought he was talking about md5sum.txt inside the iso file, not the *.iso.md512:37
bateauhow can i fix so that my scroll wheel works on my mouse?12:37
DjKriticalI am12:37
lemonsforbreakfathough at that rate why not use the *.iso.md5, fetching link12:37
DjKriticalI don't have the *.iso.md512:37
DjKriticalI didn't even see a link for it12:37
lemonsforbreakfahttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS12:38
DjKriticalcheers12:38
lemonsforbreakfaclose enough12:38
Jowibateau: add this to your mouse "inputdevice" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"12:39
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Hello_WorldHi12:39
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DjKriticalhell world12:39
srijithdid u mean hello? :12:40
Hello_Worlddoes anybody know if the j2re is available from the ubuntu servers?12:40
srijith:)12:40
srijith!java12:40
uboturumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:40
DjKriticalhaha yeah12:40
lemonsforbreakfahello: you could get it from java.sun.com if you like12:40
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Hello_Worldty12:41
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bateauJowi: i dont have a folder named "X11" :/12:41
SeveasHello_World, better not download from sub directly12:41
bateauoh12:41
bateaumy bad12:41
Seveasuse a .deb12:41
Jowibateau: /etc/X11/xorg.conf. it's there12:41
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Hello_WorldHello_World, better not download from sub directly           <---i'd be to lazy anyway :D12:41
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Seveas*g*12:42
bateauoki Jowi, its done :D do i need to reboot?12:43
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Jowibateau: you only need to restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace)12:43
bateauoki12:44
bateauthnx :D12:44
Jowinp12:44
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Hello_Worldstartx starts X11 once again...12:44
Hello_Worldctrl+alt+backspace only ends it12:44
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JowiHello_World: it will restart by itself12:45
bateauoh, oki. so i need to save all and stuff?12:45
Hello_Worldy12:45
Jowibateau: yeah, the whole X system with its application will be shutdown12:46
Hello_WorldJowi: it didn't when i pressed Ctrl+alt+backspace12:46
Hello_Worldwell, i guess u know better, i'm just a n4p :D12:46
hardw1rebah, yet another reinstall of ubuntu :(12:46
JowiHello_World: maybe a fluke. mine restarts fine :-)12:46
hardw1rehow do i add my account into the sudoers ?12:46
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bimberihardw1re: sudo visudo12:47
Jowihardw1re: add this line: hardwire ALL=(ALL) ALL12:47
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hardw1recheers, thanks guyz :D12:48
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Seveashardw1re, or: adduser hardwie admin12:48
Seveasthat adds the user to the admin group12:48
Seveas(which is in sudoers by default)12:49
srijithanyone here worked on xlib stuff ?12:49
bimberiahh, mine is an upgraded warty... no admin group12:49
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Jowibimberi: easy to add: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL12:50
Jowi...or did you mean no admin group at all?12:51
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bimberiJowi: none at all12:51
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Jowihaha, ok12:51
DjKriticalokay..12:52
DjKriticalI just did an md5 check of my install iso12:52
DjKriticalthey match12:52
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DjKriticalso next step... try burning it at a slower speed and try again?12:52
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Seveasyup12:52
DjKritical=( okey dokie12:52
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sweatybobHow long will ubuntu take to install?12:52
ninnghizidhaabout 30 miutes :-)12:53
sweatybobreally?12:53
Jowiabout 20-30 minutes12:53
ninnghizidhayeah, really.12:53
ekimusis there a way to remove unneeded locales?12:53
sweatybobyou sure.............12:53
Seveasekimus, dpkg-reconfigure locales12:53
sweatybobwill it make a linux partition out of my un allocated space?12:53
Seveassweatybob, on reasonably modern hardware 30 minutes is normal, and yes it can use unallocated space12:53
Jowisweatybob: you can choose that option, yes12:53
Wilfit took me an hour, on a P1 166 with 64mb of ram12:53
ekimusSeveas: i thought that was only for adding locales? if i uncheck them they are automagically removed?12:54
SeveasWilf, that's fast, server install?12:54
sweatybobSeveas: 512mb RAM. Amd Athlon Xp 2800+12:54
Seveasekimus, yes12:54
ninnghizidhait will .. if you tell em so ... if you tell the installer to to this automatically, it will erase a whole hdd.12:54
ekimusgreat :)12:54
Seveassweatybob, 20 minutes (depending on CD speed)12:54
WilfSeveas, standard install12:54
ninnghizidhajust read the text within the installer .. it is really helpfull.12:54
sweatybobomg im scared about whiping my hdd.12:54
DjKriticalcurrently burning at 4x ;(12:54
SeveasDjKritical, *g*12:54
Wilfmy P1 is giving me the shits >:(12:55
ninnghizidhadont be afraid .. the installer gives warnings whenever needed :-)12:55
Seveasslowly ubuntu is crawling on your cd :)12:55
sweatybobno im scared.12:55
sweatybobi know im going to fuck it up12:55
Wilfi got some upgrades for it today, but none of them had an effecr12:55
bluesceadahow can i setup a network printer in ubuntu that my dad attached to his win-xp box ?12:55
Seveasbluesceada, system -> admin -> printing12:55
sweatybobim scared that it wil white my ntfs partiton12:55
ninnghizidhaIf you know about the partitions on your harddisk, you are probably not in danger of erasing something that is in use. :-)12:55
Seveas'add printer'12:55
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bluesceadaSeveas: thx12:55
cafuegobluesceada: smb://user:host@sambabox/printer12:55
Seveas'network printer' 'windows printer'12:55
bluesceadaah ok12:55
DjKriticalSeveas: *g*?12:55
bluesceadasounds easy12:55
cassweatybob: now slowly take a breath, say: "I can do this!" and put the cd in the tray12:55
sweatybob=/12:56
ninnghizidhahey, sweetbob .. wanna see screenshots of the installation-process?12:56
Seveas*g* is short for *grin*12:56
sweatybobninnghizidha Ya.12:56
DjKriticallol12:56
Hello_Worldll12:56
sweatybobgive me big pointers of what NOT to push return. on.12:56
ninnghizidhajust a second .. i'k looking for the URI.12:56
Hello_Worldthe partition thingee12:56
cassweatybob: ninnghizidha is right take some looks at the screenies12:56
SeveasDo NOT push return when it says 'do you want me to erase your disk'12:56
sweatybobit does say that tho.12:56
Hello_Worldnot that clearly12:57
Hello_Worldiirc12:57
sweatybobhttp://imageheap.com/theheap/11928222.jpg12:57
sweatyboblook. lol12:57
Jowihahaha12:57
sweatybobThats ubuntu desktop. lol12:57
Hello_Worldthat is 0wnage12:58
sweatybobyup.12:58
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sweatybobtook me ages to install...12:58
ninnghizidhaThis is the Installer:12:58
ninnghizidhahttp://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=112:58
sweatyboband then i got that12:58
ninnghizidhadont be afraid of it.12:58
Seveaswow, VPC really sucks :)12:58
sweatybobyea12:58
sweatybobive done the install before12:58
hardw1reaggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh its a picture of windows!!!!!!!!!!12:58
sweatybobon my VPC12:58
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Seveashardw1re, relax :)12:58
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barney_anyone using ISP internode in oz? need some help setting up apt mirrors in sources list12:59
Hello_Worldchill, chill12:59
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ninnghizidhaslide 10 could be interesting for you...12:59
bimberiphew, 106 slides!12:59
ninnghizidha.. it is about the formating-tools.12:59
hardw1rei will love the day when windows becomes obsolete... oh wait it has already :P12:59
sweatybobim trying ot find the friggin rite screenies12:59
hardw1rejust a shame that linux is so complex to get things working on it :(12:59
ninnghizidhait is the blue one, with the grey window.01:00
sweatybobclem_yeats: screenshot 10. what should i select here?01:00
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DjKriticalhardw1re: yes thats true.. but not when you use APT-GET!01:00
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Hello_Worldapt-get sucks01:00
hardw1renoooo01:00
hardw1reapt-get is only goood to an extent01:00
sweatybobbut i dont know what partition will be listed as......01:00
hardw1rei've had to compile my own driver for my webcam01:00
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hardw1rei've had to compile the cvs of aMSN for webcam support01:01
cashardw1re: maybe you're right, but at least it is possible ;)01:01
Hello_Worldapt-get is good for linux-cracks-wannabe01:01
Hello_Worldnormal people use synaptic or at least aptitude01:01
hardw1relol01:01
Hello_Worldor kynaptic01:01
hardw1rethats apt-get with a gui :P01:01
sweatybobi dont know if i should use linux........... im scared.01:01
DjKriticalwell on my server apt-get is all I ever needed :P01:01
Hello_Worldi know, hardw1re01:01
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nerdy2i tend to apt-get, and i'm normal :)01:02
cassweatybob: you can only say that if you have tried it01:02
srijithI like rpm ;)01:02
ninnghizidhaI was scared too, sweatybob01:02
Hello_Worldsweatybob: Linux won't bite u01:02
Hello_World(probably)01:02
sweatybobhttp://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=9 --------- see that one......01:02
DjKriticallast time I tried rpm I got messed up with registration01:02
casHello_World: pinguins will01:03
sweatybobcan't i.......... use partition magic.01:03
ninnghizidha... if you know, HOW many GB the partition has, and no other partition has that size, it will be easy to identify.01:03
Hello_Worldthey didd with L. T.01:03
sweatybobWell i've got a few gig of unallocated space im going to install ubuntu into.01:03
hardw1regood thing about linux, is if you create a seperate partition for home, and you screw up the linux os, its a doddle to reinstall and still have all your files :D01:03
Hello_Worldthat's possible with Windows as well...01:03
DjKriticalgood idea01:03
hardw1rei used PM to resize my windows drives01:03
ninnghizidhai guess the installer will tell you about that space .. and i'm sure you can insert an linuxpartition into that space ...01:04
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sweatybobhardw1re: yea i resized my C:\ so i can make a linux partition.01:04
hardw1rei got a 2GB swap, 2GB /boot, 15GB /, and a 30GB /home01:04
ninnghizidhapartitioning took about 30 minutes at my first linux-installation .. it was frightening complex, but after 15 minutes i got it ...01:04
binaWhile trying to install wine, (apt-get install wine returns an error due to bad library versions) i get the error /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a is present on your system.  How to I get rid of this file?01:04
binai fear just deleting it might break some programs01:04
sweatybobMaybe i should stick to Knoppix live CD....01:04
Hello_Worldknoppix sucks01:05
Hello_Worldsooooos sllloooooowwwwww01:05
srijithhardw1re, do you recompile kernel a lot?01:05
Hello_World-s01:05
NermalHello_World, running off cd ?01:05
sweatybobHello_World yea it is slow.01:05
sweatyboboff cd01:05
binaHello_World: good for when ur computer breaks though :)01:05
Hello_Worldy01:05
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binaor at least ur current distro01:05
Hello_Worldhm01:06
ninnghizidhaknoppix is really ugly .. and not that funny as ubuntu01:06
Nermaloh hush01:06
Nermalall you fucking newbies01:06
sweatybobomg i dunn what to doooz!!!!!!!01:06
bina:)01:06
Hello_Worldwhat's funny about ubuntu?01:06
ninnghizidhagive ubuntu a try and dare the installation .. TSCHAKA.01:06
Nermaljust sod off and leave us in peace01:06
DjKriticalwhat is knoppix built on?01:06
Nermalgo on01:06
Hello_Worlddoes anybody know there i can gat hoary packages for amaroK 1.3?01:06
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sweatybobgoogle?01:06
binaDhKritical: Debian i think01:06
ninnghizidhai did an amarok.1.3-package01:06
hardw1reno, i havent been using linux that long tbh, it didnt compile in the end, i tried to get a breezy kernel, but it needed certain packages and that screwed things up, so i ended up reinstalling ubuntu, then i went to the doctors this morning01:06
binaDJKritical* sorry01:06
ninnghizidhai guess so too .. debian.01:07
Hello_Worldwhere do i find it?01:07
ninnghizidhaare you able to read german?01:07
Hello_Worldknoppix is definately debian-based01:07
Hello_Worldja01:07
cafueg1knoppix has an english version of its web pages too.01:07
hardw1rehttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/01:07
hardw1rehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/01:08
ninnghizidhaHello_World, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/viewtopic.php?t=913501:08
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cafueg1oh look at that, those lovely OSX .dfont files work *fine* in Xorg.01:08
hardw1reanyone know if it is safe to use the latest nvidia drivers off of the nvidia site instead of using the ones that are on the apt-get, cause they're rather out dated...01:09
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cafueg1hardw1re: Are they outdated or do they not work?01:09
pl_ice_hi01:09
hardw1rethe old ones work.... but they're outdated01:10
cafueg1so you want to fix something that's not broken...01:10
Hello_Worldhardw1re: i've tried. it didn't work01:10
binacagueg1: they dont work on my comp :'(01:10
binagrrcant type today01:10
cafueg1bina: Different issue01:10
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binai think ill just stop :)01:10
binahehe, oh :P01:11
Hello_Worldu know, i still use Forceware 44.03 on windows01:11
hardw1rethe 7676 worked on mine... but i;ve been having issues with hl2 / css01:11
Hello_Worldan everything works fine01:11
hardw1relol01:11
hardw1rewhat gfx card u got?01:11
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Hello_WorldTi 420001:11
hardw1reyeah01:11
hardw1reyou dont want the latest then01:11
Hello_World??01:11
hardw1redont go any higher than 44.xx tbh with a GeForce 4 card01:11
ubuntubom dia !!!!01:12
Hello_Worldnvdia keeps telling me the latest drivers are the best 1s01:12
cafueg1!pt01:12
ubotucafueg1: Are you on ritalin?01:12
cafueg1!br01:12
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.01:12
binahardw1re: how do you check the version? maybe thats why mine isnt working01:12
hardw1rethe latest drivers are mainly aimed towards the GeForce FX and Gefore 6/7xxx range01:12
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Hello_Worldyeah01:12
Hello_Worldbut they should at least *work*01:12
hardw1re(Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64]  (Uptime):[1:39]  (Load):[0.11]  (CPUCount):[1]  (Model):[AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+]  (Clock):[1872.190MHz]  (Cache):[512 KB]  (Bogomips):[3710.97]  (Mem):[342/1023M]  (Total Space):[506.4G]  (Processes):[81] 01:12
cafueg1bina: dpkg -l nvidia-glx01:12
Hello_Worldand they don't01:12
hardw1rehmmm....01:12
cafueg1hardw1re: Do you need to do that?01:13
Hello_Worldthey give me bluescreens01:13
binacafueg1: thanks01:13
hardw1re(Graphics):[PCI device 10de:0045 (nVidia Corporation) (rev 161)]  (XFree86):[]  (Res):[1920x1200]  (Bits):[24] 01:13
hardw1redoesnt give the details of my card...01:13
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binawow that was crazy01:13
cafueg1hardw1re: Can you please make your script not spam the channel?01:13
hardw1respam?01:13
hardw1reyou call 1 line of text spam?01:13
cafueg1hardw1re: I do if it's script generatyed irrelevant cruft, yes.01:14
hardw1rewhat country are you from?01:14
Nghardw1re: those kinds of scripts annoy people on IRC because otherwise you end up with everyone doing them and "I am currently listening to: SomeRandomRubbish.mp3" scripts ;)01:14
athlon!id01:14
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, athlon01:14
cafueg1hardw1re: That makes it not only pam, but also againt channel rules.01:14
Hello_Worldhardw1re: if that's no spam, what is?01:14
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hardw1reomg01:15
athlon!de01:15
ubotufrom memory, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.01:15
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cafueg1(Kenrel): [Cafuego 2.1]  (Penis): [15 foot]  ... etc01:15
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hardw1re*this doesnt work on my system* why do you want to use it on yours... etc. etc etc, cause a) i have a 6800GT, and b) im on an AMD 64 (x86_64 system) as shown by the data that i pasted above!01:15
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cafueg1hardw1re: So if you'd said "athlon64 with a GT6800" you'd have been concise.01:16
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dbeeDoes anyone know how I can get my hands on a libc library that can be used to install j2re ????01:16
cafueg1anyway, I don't make the rules here, I'01:17
cafueg1m just letting you know01:17
DjKriticalOkay I'm going to try install again... this time the cd was burnt at 4x speed... wish me luck :D01:17
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hardw1reno, cause linux isnt like that windows is :P in linux u need to be more specific about the actual hardware and software of your pc :P01:18
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cafueg1hardw1re: The amount of disk space, the amount of ram, the uptime, the size of your penis are all COMPLETELY irrelevant. a libc6 and/or xorg version MAY have helped, but I didn't see those.01:18
hardw1reoh go eat some pies or summit im busy updating01:19
uthini!windowsdrives01:19
ubotufrom memory, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically01:19
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webtoehmmmm i looove pies01:19
Kromonosre01:19
liablewenas!01:19
bimberidbee: there are issues with the jre in hoary-extras01:19
cafueg1Yes, pretend you don't know what I mena. That's so useful.01:19
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webtoebimberi: what issues?01:20
bimberidbee: There are some better packages available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/01:20
liablewenas!01:20
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Kromonoswhen I close the screen of my laptop an open it again, I just see a black screen01:20
Ngthere are too many repositories ;(01:20
bimberiwebtoe: libc6 dependency issues01:20
NgI was hoping this wasn't going to end up like fedora, but it has ;)01:20
Kromonossame when I change to tty1 or so and then back to tty701:20
hardw1rei have a degree in computer engineering, do you think i really wanna sit here while some nerd has ago about a little bit of text?01:20
Nghardw1re: you could just respect the way it works and stop whinging? ;)01:21
liableoooh, a degree..01:21
cafueg1hardw1re: The issue is that you're needlessly spamming the channel with script output. This is against channel rules. Consider yourself informed.01:21
hardw1reomg... im not the one whinging, im just arguing a point about a bit of text01:21
cafueg1hardw1re: if you disagree, take it up with an op.01:21
hardw1reomg this isnt support this is bugger off with telling us your system hardware and yoru fricking problems01:22
Kromonoswhere is my problem01:22
Kromonos?01:22
cafueg1if you'd rather do that, feel free too.01:22
hardw1rethats what i did01:22
hardw1reand you moaned01:22
cafueg1I meant the "bugger off" part.01:22
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webtoebimberi: You get an error with a programe? or it just not work full stop? thought I had tried it out and it was fine...... though not with anything complex01:23
hardw1reall i was trying to do was have a disccusion and get some adivce/support with the latest nvidia driver files for linux01:23
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hardw1reand you poke your nose in01:23
Hello_Worldninnghizidha: thx for the package, works fine01:23
dbeebimberi: thanks, I've checked it out, do you reckon I should download a new jre or a new libc ??01:23
cafueg1dbee: a new libc? What did you break? and how?01:23
ninnghizidhagreat tu hear.01:24
ninnghizidha(to)01:24
binaKromonos: im no expert in laptops, so this could be miles off.  Could it be something to do with ur power management?  Dont laptops go into suspend when u put the screen donw?01:24
bimberidbee: the jre01:24
Seveascafueg1, braind-dead hoary-extras packages require a backport libgcc01:24
binaah, but that wouldnt explain why it happens from tty1 and tty7 :)01:24
Seveashardw1re: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct01:24
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cafueg1Seveas: haha. That's why the Java wiki is point at the wrong page.01:24
Kromonosbina: :)01:25
cafueg1hardw1re:  I have you on ignore, please do the same to me.01:25
dbeecafuegl: it just says that my libc is the wrong version or outdated ... this is strange because I only downloaded the Ubuntu ISO yesterday01:25
hardw1re,,/,,01:25
cafueg1dbee: The jre package is broken. Just a moment.01:25
DjKritical-lol01:25
Seveasdbee, the java .deb files from hoary-extras are broken01:25
Seveasgrab a .deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl01:25
DjKritical-excellent rebuttle :D01:25
bimberiwebtoe: to clarify, the issue is that the j2re on hoary-extras are broken (god i wish i could type faster :) )01:25
dabaRSeveas: :O you are illegal now?:)01:25
cafueg1or use "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions"01:25
SeveasdabaR, I've always been :)01:26
cafueg1You will guaranteed not have libc issues.01:26
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DjKritical-Oh my god I didn't get an error this time when installing!!!01:26
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Wilfwierd01:26
dbeeSeveas: which .deb ??01:26
DjKritical-Seveas: seems like your advice worked :D01:26
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cafueg1DjKritical-: Okay, insert CD and reboot again ;-)01:26
dabaRSeveas: you have eh? good. heh.01:26
Wilfwhy do EDO ram based systems never see how much RAM you put in?01:26
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Wilfie) i just put in 2 32mb sticks, the system oinly sees 16mb01:27
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Wilfsame with my P101:27
DjKritical-cafueg1: will do ;)01:27
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cafueg1Wilf: is the ram mayhap broken or incorrectly seated (or not EDO)?01:27
bimberidbee: sun-j2re1.5 (or 1.4) up to you01:28
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Wilfit's EDO for sure (i mean, c'mon :\)01:28
cafueg1Wilf: you'd be amazed...01:28
WilfRAM borked?01:28
Wilfmaybe01:28
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webtoeWilf: is it the BIOS that isn't seeing all the RAM? or linux?01:28
WilfBIOS01:28
cafueg1linux sees it?01:29
Wilfon both my P1 166 and AMD K6-201:29
Wilfno idea.01:29
webtoeWilf: are they a pairs01:29
Seveask6-2 with EDO?01:29
cafueg1Do K6-2 mobos even support edo ram?01:29
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Wilfyep01:29
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Wilfit's a wierd machine, on a really tiny form factor01:29
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shawarmaI have a problem during installation of a linux-image.. When it's trying to configure it, I get a bunch of "file descriptor x left open" followed by a "/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/evms/.nodes/sdb3: Cannot find LVM device","failed to create initrd image"  and lastly apt-get tells me that configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 has failed... Has anyone seen this before?01:29
Hello_Worldk6=socket7=pentium1 socket01:29
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Hello_Worldsuper-socket7 is compatible01:30
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leitaois there any ubuntu for 64 bits machine?01:30
Hello_Worldyes01:30
shawarmaleitao: AMD, you mean?01:30
dbeebimberi: So I can just download the new repsoitories from Seveas site then, and that should work ???01:30
Wilfmy P1 is on a ATrend ATC1000 mobo which supports not only P1 + K6, but some cyrix cpu's as well.01:30
leitaoshawarma : yes01:30
cafueg1leitao: Yesp, and it works fine , except for the java web plugin and flash.01:30
shawarmaleitao: Sure there is.01:30
derFlomy firefox always hangs. Anyone experiences the same problems?01:30
Hello_Worlddon't use firefox then01:31
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cafueg1leitao: (If you REALLY want java and/or flash on the web, sue the i386 cd)01:31
Hello_Worlduse IE01:31
webtoederFlo: what ubuntu you using? Hoary? coz breezy one chokes on me sometimes01:31
Hello_Worldwith wine01:31
Hello_World:D01:31
lemonsforbreakfawhat? IE over Opera?01:31
webtoei think it was meant to be a joke01:31
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bimberidbee: yes, you can replace the hoary-extras line in your sources.list with the one at the top of that page.  Or alternatively just download the .deb file and install it using dpkg01:31
cafueg1lemonsforbreakfa: yeah, opera doesn't run on Longhorn.01:31
leitaocafueg1: could i get this in the ubuntu site?01:31
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derFlowebtoe: yes01:32
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Hello_Worldwebtoe: that's why breezy is called "beta"01:32
Hello_World-.-01:32
KromonosWho else has a laptop?01:32
dbeeThanks bimberi01:32
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cafueg1leitao: Yes, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/01:32
DjKritical-My install seems to be stuck on "Configuring Apt - Testing network repository"01:32
webtoei know i know i'm not stupid...i want to use the development branch on my laptop01:32
bimberidbee: not yet, wait till it works :)01:32
leitaocafueg1: ok01:32
cafueg1leitao: You want version 5.0401:32
hardw1re!nvidia01:32
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia01:32
DjKritical-oh no ;(01:33
webtoederFlo: try starting firefox from a terminal and see what messages it spits out01:33
cafueg1webtoe: openoffice.org and mozilla-firefox seem to currently be broken on breezy here, gnome is missing its trash applet (completely) (again) and evolution crashes a lot.01:33
DjKritical-ahh it moved! false alarm!01:34
webtoecafueg1: i know i tested it on my desktop and it was very mangled. But on my laptop its fine for some reason. Firefox wouldn't work for a while and the gnome-panel crashed but now it works fine01:34
derFlowebtoe: ok01:34
derFlowebtoe: it's not reproducable. sometime it hangs, sometimes not01:35
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webtoecafueg1: but it only appears to be on this laptop it works fine, my desktop machine just continually choked all the time01:35
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webtoederFlo: have you installed any plugins? or firefox extensions?01:35
derFloflorianq@flux:~$ firefox01:36
derFloNP_Initialize01:36
derFloNew01:36
derFlowebtoe: only search plugins01:36
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derFlowebtoe: but i have the same behaviour without any plugins01:37
derFlowebtoe: not so often, but it also hangs every once in a while01:37
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cafuegoderFlo: mv .mozilla/firefox ~/backup-foo; firefox01:37
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derFlocafuego: already did that01:37
cafuegostill issues?01:38
derFloyes01:38
lemonsforbreakfastill having install problems - cannot install a bootloader.  See http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59723 please.  Thank you.01:38
derFlonot so often, but also01:38
derFloit doesn't crash. it hangs01:38
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derFlono updates available (apt-get update & apt-get upgrade)01:40
derFlostrange01:40
derFloI could try to use mozilla....01:41
Hello_Worldmozilla is better anyway01:41
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derFloHello_World: why do you think that?01:42
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Hello_Worldno crippled sidebar01:43
Hello_Worlda proper options dialog01:43
Hello_Worldmore mature01:43
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nerdy2what option do you miss?01:44
derFlobut mozilla won't be supported in the future....01:44
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derFloI like the search-field01:44
inc7hi, first time usin ubantu, linux01:44
pet ciao every body.. i have a problem maybe some one can halp me..01:45
bimberihi inc701:45
inc7i dont know how to run realplayer01:45
inc7hi01:45
Hello_Worldwhat option do you miss?  <--i don't want to hide the tabbar when only 1 tab is open01:45
pet i m connected in a office with my laptop .. runs on ubuntu01:45
wickedpuppyinc7, have you installed it ?01:45
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Hmmmminc7, do u have real player installed?01:45
Hello_Worldand i generally miss any kind of logical structure in the ff dialogs01:45
pet all the time i reboot the computer the connection in the office is kill01:46
inc7i installed using terminal, and instructions but now i cant run or have firefox recognize for a stream01:46
pet:(01:46
uthinicfdisk doesn't like my 80gb hd01:46
pethow comes ??01:46
wickedpuppyinc7, what you typed ??01:46
uthinii'm not too familiar with unix fdisk01:46
uthini!fdisk01:46
ubotuuthini: Do they come in packets of five?01:46
wickedpuppypet ... kill ??01:46
inc7to install, i installed in home folder01:46
wickedpuppywhat you mean kill ?01:46
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petconnection is off01:46
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peti have to restart the modem01:46
Hmmmminc7, hit Alt+F2"01:46
wickedpuppyinc7, real player is not opensource ..you bought it ?01:46
pethow comes01:46
pet?01:46
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wickedpuppypet, ... that might be your network problem ?01:47
inc7no, downloaded for website01:47
petyes01:47
wickedpuppyoh free ? hmms ...01:47
inc7alt f2--  . then?01:47
wickedpuppypet ... why not contact your network admin ?01:47
petwith the other computer it doesn t make this problem01:47
petonly when i reboot with ubuntu01:47
inc7not listed?01:48
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wickedpuppypet, your network is detected i hope ??01:48
petit disturb the connection01:48
petyes01:48
petbut after i reboot the modem01:48
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peti m able to connect01:48
wickedpuppymodem ?01:48
wickedpuppyhow to reboot the modem ?01:48
peti just put off and on01:48
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petafter connection is good agein01:48
peti connect with wifi01:48
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wickedpuppyoh wifi lan cable modem ?01:49
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petyes01:49
petgerman adsl modem01:49
Hmmmmthen type "realplay"01:49
petSinus01:49
wickedpuppyhmms ... i use wireless card in ubuntu at school ... never got this prob01:49
petmodem01:49
petme also01:50
wickedpuppynetwork usually goes up and down but never cut off01:50
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petmaybe i configure host in my network admin01:50
inc7can not display location file//:relplay01:50
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inc7can i double click icon suposed to run?01:50
wickedpuppyinc7, you are suppoed to run it in terminal ... not browse01:50
petis it a problem in the host settings01:50
pet?01:50
Hmmmminc7, just hit enter01:50
wickedpuppypet, its possible ... what about your ESSID ?01:51
petit is ok01:51
petcrypted01:51
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petwep key01:51
petthis is ok01:51
wickedpuppyah ... well no idea about that one ... mine seems to work fine ... sorry dude01:51
petbut when i restart my computer the other computer have no connection anny mor01:51
wickedpuppy?01:52
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wickedpuppytwo computers ?01:52
petyes01:52
DjKritical-I just installed ubuntu and xwindows got an error.. is this common?01:52
twibblerpet do you use dhcp or hard code ip ?.01:52
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, no01:52
inc7home/inc7/RealPlayer01:52
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peti tried both01:52
inc7thats where it is, i type that in and it opens the folder?01:53
petdoes the connection depends on my laptop ?01:53
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Jowipet: sounds like your router's got a problem. Probably interference from other wireless things. Try to change the channel in the router.01:53
kemikinc7:  so maybe thats a folder and not an executable01:53
pet?01:53
peti have also windows on this laptop01:54
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petwhen i start in windows i don t have this problem01:54
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peti have the impression there is some thing wrong in my host settings01:54
petin network admin01:54
DjKritical-whats the default root password for ubuntu?01:54
petdo i need a Hostname ?01:54
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icewtDjKritical-, it's your user password01:55
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dePOLLerm.. what is an "upstream Alioth package"?01:55
DjKritical-icewt: that didn't work for me01:55
inc7i added another /home/inc7/RealPlayer/realplayer   to get the exe but nothin?01:55
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pet?01:55
twibblerpet: if when connecting to wireless you losing internet connection to the other computer does sound like an ip conflict ....01:55
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petyes01:55
AquaskyDIE WILF DIE01:56
DjKritical-is there anything else the root password might be set to?01:56
bimberiDjKritical-: log in as yourself, then type "sudo -i" (with your user password) to get a root shell01:56
inc7should i have installed on root termonal?01:56
Kromonoshmpf01:56
bimberiDjKritical-: ubuntu installs with root disabled01:56
twibblerpet: is main computer win or linux01:56
Kromonoswhy ist network:/// in nautilus empty?01:56
petmain computer is windows01:56
Hmmmminc7, how did u install realplayer?01:56
peti m just new here01:56
KromonosI had a samba network in my LAN01:57
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twibblerok well first ceck ip on main comp ... ipconfig in dos promt.01:57
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inc7i opend terminal, put in commant to make file i downloaded executable, then put in another command to install01:57
petit seems like ubuntu set him self as main computer01:57
pethow can i put this off01:57
inc7it asked me where to install, i said home, it installed i see the folder , files01:57
Hmmmmok inc7 do this01:58
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DjKritical-Okay I've encountered major problems with my basic install of ubuntu.. now I'm in a root console.. and when I do 'apt-get -f install' I get an error01:58
Hmmmm"sudo apt-get install realplayer"01:58
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uthini!format01:58
ubotuuthini: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:58
uthinioh c01:58
kemikpet:  im not sure what you're talking about.. isit the Bootmenu that defaults on running ubuntu? if so, you'll need to edit grub menu.lst01:58
uthiniguys wots the format command?01:58
JowiKromonos: default samba workgroup name is MSHOME.01:58
KromonosJowi: I had changed this in smb.conf01:58
Kromonosbut nothing happens. network:/// is still empty01:59
petyes default is running on ubuntu01:59
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derFlomozilla also crashed01:59
inc7i hope i can get this workin, i hate xp01:59
kemikuthini:  fdisk01:59
DjKritical-error processing... blah/blah/gnome-icon-theme... corrupted filesystem tarbell...01:59
derFloonly fyi01:59
derFlobye01:59
uthinikemik, i don't see a format option, i've changed the partitions, but its still an ntfs drive02:00
DjKritical-corrupted package archive02:00
JowiKromonos: ah very good. it can take a while for it to catch up though. sometimes it takes up to 3-4 minutes over here.02:00
kemikKromonos:  /etc/samba/smb.conf is a configurationfile for your samba-server (if you're running one) not the client02:00
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, why you need -f ?? what are you installing ?02:00
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: I got an error the first time I tried to load xwindows02:00
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: I got into root and tried to do 'apt-get upgrade'02:00
inc7anyone know how i ues this program to connect to undernet02:00
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: I got another error then it suggested 'apt-get -f install'02:01
wickedpuppyxwindows ?? after you install ubuntu you should get inside gnome02:01
Kromonoskemik: so far so good :) and where is the config file of the client?02:01
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: gnome didn't load02:01
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, ... now then you got install problem02:01
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: it gave me an error... something like.... /usr/bin/X11 missing.. or something02:01
XTCinc7 anyone know how i ues this program to connect to undernet << xchat?02:01
wickedpuppydid you install cleanly ??02:01
DjKritical-well it looked like it did!02:01
DjKritical-I got almost to the end02:01
inc7what ya02:01
wickedpuppyXTC, inc7  ... ctrl+t02:01
kemikuthini:  oh. format =)02:01
XTC??02:02
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: any suggestions? or do you suggest a reinstall?02:02
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, what you mean almost ?02:02
DjKritical-well..02:02
DjKritical-at the end of the install02:02
uthiniOMG!!!! no format command!!! whats going on here?02:02
wickedpuppywhat was at the end of install ?02:02
kemikKromonos:  you can mount the samba shares if you got "smbfs" installed using the mount command02:02
DjKritical-it moved me to some pakage installation program02:02
DjKritical-which I didn't know how to use02:02
XTCaaaaaaaaaaa.... menu: x-chat/server list....02:02
DjKritical-so I quit (which was accidental because I was trying to go back)02:02
XTCalso works inc702:02
Kromonoskemik: alright, but why is network:/// empty?02:02
kemikKromonos:  or try browsing the network with Places-->Network Servers etc02:03
Jowiuthini: mkfs02:03
uthinikemik, when i tupe format is tjoons no such command?02:03
uthinimkay02:03
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, something is wrong ...  did you let your com reboot after you installed the first stage ?02:03
kemikKromonos:  could be any number of reasons.. most likely you've not configured your network correctly02:03
Kromonoskemik: Places --> Network Servers = network:///02:03
christ_lol02:03
DjKritical-before that package installation screen... I got a message... "Some of the packages something something something"... you will be able to fix this from the package selector coming up02:03
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kemikuthini:  i didnt mena "format" as the command rather "oh, you were asking about formatting" sorry for the confusion =)02:03
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Kromonoskemik: If my network isn't configured correctly I wouldn't be here ;)02:04
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: yeah.. it rebooted fine... everything was perfect up to the restart... then it started configuring packages upon rebooting02:04
wickedpuppyyup02:04
wickedpuppycorrect02:04
kemikKromonos:  setting up internet sharing isnt the same as using a samba network02:04
wickedpuppythen it will download ... and ask you if you want to install02:04
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wickedpuppyyou said yes ... and it will configure and does everything and get you into gnome02:04
DjKritical-yeah02:04
Kromonoskemik: When I use the IP Adress of my Samba server, I get a connection02:04
DjKritical-then it tried to load gnome02:05
wickedpuppythen ?02:05
kemikKromonos:  try typing in smb://servername02:05
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DjKritical-and got a fatal error with X1102:05
uthinikemik, what is the format command? i know it exists!! i have my partition info setup already02:05
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Stormxwhat is samba?02:05
kemikKromonos:  do you have the correct workgroups on both client and server? they usually have to "match"02:05
wickedpuppyso the install didn't finish DjKritical-  ?02:05
kemik!samba02:05
ubotuit has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:05
DjKritical-well no because if it had finished I'd be in gnome =(02:05
DjKritical-quick question02:05
Kromonoskemik: Workgroup is same in smb.conf02:05
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wickedpuppyif the install didn't finish ... pls reinstall ... easiest ... if install is done and no X then we debug02:05
DjKritical-at the package selection screen02:06
Kromonossmb://servername <-- this is working02:06
DjKritical-if I select 'q'02:06
Jelanyone know how I can set the login path for a single user with ssh and/or pam?  SSH doesn't seem to execute my .bash_login or .bashrc02:06
kemikuthini:  i think you'd want to use "mkfs"02:06
DjKritical-and quit that package installer02:06
DjKritical-is that okay?02:06
wickedpuppyno02:06
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kemikuthini:  or fill the partition with 0's usgin "dd"02:06
DjKritical-because I don't know what to do at that point02:06
wickedpuppyits safe to do yes DjKritical-02:06
wickedpuppyunless you like console ...02:06
uthinisigh kemik. does make fs read from the partition table?02:06
uthinicos i've run out of time02:07
uthinii need to start something that will run on its own02:07
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: what is the point of that console package installer?02:07
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, say yes to whatever the installer ask ... its perfectly safe ... if not there be nobody here02:07
kemikKromonos:  and there's no firewalls? (im not sure if samba announces it's presence on a different port than the one you'd connect on)02:07
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wickedpuppyDjKritical-, it install the packages such as gnome02:07
DjKritical-do I need to tell it to do that?02:07
wickedpuppybefore you reboot it only install base packahe02:07
wickedpuppyno02:07
wickedpuppyyou just say yes02:07
wickedpuppyinstead of q02:07
DjKritical-ahh I see!02:08
DjKritical-lol02:08
kemikuthini:  mkfs  is  used  to  build  a  Linux  file system on a device, usually a hard disk partition.02:08
wickedpuppykeep saying yes yes yes yes02:08
Kromonoskemik: No, there is no firewall between server and clients, but a firewall between server and internet :P02:08
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DjKritical-I was hoping it was user error and not hardware/software related!02:08
DjKritical-thanks wickedpuppy!02:08
wickedpuppyuser error alright02:08
wickedpuppylol02:08
wickedpuppynp02:08
uthinikemik.... if i type sudo mkfs /dev/hdb1 will it read what i've put down on the partition table?02:08
wickedpuppybtw ...you never install windows too right ?02:08
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kemikKromonos:  ok.. is the client a ubuntu box and the server a windows or linux box ?02:08
derreckJel, Try putting it in .bash_profile02:08
inc7how do u open that window to run programs again?02:08
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Jelderreck: tried, no luck :(02:09
inc7i oressed alt f4 and it closed open windows02:09
Kromonoskemik: client is ubuntu and server is eisfair linux :)02:09
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: how do you mean?02:09
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wickedpuppyoh nvm02:09
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: I've gone through the windows installer so many times it's numbed my ability to think during install02:09
kemikuthini:  i'd go for "sudo -t filesystemtype<ntfs,vfat,ext3> /dev/hdb1"   and that would probably give you a partition with the FS you want...02:09
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, ah lol ... so you keep pressing yes yes yes and ok ok ok ?02:10
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DjKritical-haha yeah02:10
DjKritical-then when it asks me to make a choice I go "oh no!!! quit quit!"02:10
kemikeisfair? never heard of :)02:10
wickedpuppywell ... its same here ... :P ubuntu base is really small ...02:10
wickedpuppyso get all02:10
Kromonoshttp://www.eisfair.org02:10
Kromonosit's an easy to install linux inet server02:11
Kromonos:)02:11
DjKritical-It's only quarter past 12... there has to be enough time left to get this working! '_02:11
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DjKritical-;)02:11
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wickedpuppyDjKritical-, it takes an hour ... if the network is fast02:11
nenduvelik heb een fat32 partitie op men pc maar hoe vind ik of het bv /hda1 of /hda2 of iets dergelijks is?02:11
Stormxenglish f0002:11
kemikKromonos:  well.. im not sure what todo about your problem...02:11
wickedpuppynenduvel, #ubuntu-de pls02:11
DjKritical-1meg network02:11
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wickedpuppyor #ubuntu.de ..02:12
wickedpuppyforgot which one02:12
kemikthat was probably #ubuntu-nl02:12
wickedpuppyoh02:12
wickedpuppynl ? lol02:12
kemikyes. dutch02:12
eliyahugot a quick question.02:12
kemik;)02:12
nenduvelyes nl02:12
nenduvel:)02:12
webtoeask away eliyahu02:12
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nenduvelwrong window02:12
nenduvelsorry02:12
Kromonoshmpf02:12
kemikKromonos:  but if all you got is linux OS's id go with NFS instead ;)02:12
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eliyahufirefox has decided that its my default ftp program. I want it to go back to being nautilas.02:12
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Kromonoskemik: I decited to use Samba because of my Windows Game PC02:13
Kromonos-t+d02:13
kemikmmh. im running both services... but i'm using linux 99% of the time ;)02:13
Kromonosahh02:13
KromonosI found it02:13
kemikisit browsable from windows ?02:14
kemikok? what was it ?02:14
KromonosI've restartet samba service on server02:14
Kromonosand now, it's shown in network:///02:14
Kromonos*gg*02:14
kemikyou didnt restart after editing the .conf? ;)02:14
nenduveli have a fat32 partition on my pc how can i mount it?02:14
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phreakyshi02:14
kemik!ntfs02:14
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phreakyshow can i uninstall a package, installed with make install ?02:14
Kromonoskemik: The server is running until one week02:14
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kemikthe (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions02:14
milestonehi all02:14
eliyahucan anyone tell me how to make nautalis my default ftp client?02:14
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kemiknenduvel:  read that link02:15
KromonosI just installed ubuntu today02:15
nenduveli use win 200002:15
kemiknenduvel:  or doit the hard way and learn the mountcommand "man mount" ;)02:15
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kemiknenduvel:  read it all02:15
gorillaphreakys, you can't... the best you can do is to rea the Makefile for where it installed the program and other files.02:15
nenduvelok02:15
milestoneanyone know why my "ALT-GR" Key does not work with Breezy Badger anymore? it worked fine with Hoary Hedgehog02:15
eliyahuwebtoe ? anyone?02:15
KromonosI hadn't to edit and restart services on server02:15
phreakysah, tnx gorilla02:16
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Kromonosand at ubuntu box I restarted samba service more than twelve times ;)02:16
gorillaphreakys, that's the short answer anyway... :-)02:16
kemikKromonos:  :P02:16
kemikKromonos:  you dont have to run samba on the client-side really02:17
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eliyahucan no one help me?02:17
inc7gonna try to reinstall02:17
inc7says02:17
inc7Ensure that the .bin file you downloaded is executable. You can make the .bin file executable by running the "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" command from a terminal window.02:17
webtoesorry eliyah was away for a minute02:17
webtoei'll have a look02:17
Kromonoskemik: I started samba on my ubuntu box because of sharing on lan partys :D02:17
kemikinc7:  why not install realplayer from the repositories02:17
wickedpuppyany of you installed j2sdk ?? know where to get .deb or repo for it ?02:18
wickedpuppy!repos02:18
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:18
inc7howw02:18
inc7where02:18
kemik!realplayer02:18
uboturealplayer is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:18
milestonedid something change between releases?02:18
webtoeeliyah: is this when you click a link in firefox or something?02:18
webtoeor a link on the desktop?02:18
kemikwickedpuppy:  yesterday there was some error in hoary-extras i think.. so ppl were unable to get the sdk02:18
kemikwickedpuppy:  but it should be in extras02:19
wickedpuppyah i see02:19
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eliyahuin my places menu webtoe02:19
kemikKromonos:  ah ok.. make da*n sure you dont give out the wrong permissions then! so noone delets stuff etc ;)02:19
eliyahui have several work related servers saved their02:20
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eliyahuup until two days ago this never happened.02:20
eliyahui've been through every bit of options that i can find02:20
Kromonoskemik: Sharing is just reading ;) writting is just permitted if I know the person :)02:20
milestoneit is driving me crazy02:20
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webtoeeliyah: what comes up instead of nautilus when you click on a places menu link for an ftp site?02:21
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eliyahuit opens a new tab in firefox02:22
eliyahuask me to confirm the password02:22
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eliyahuand opens a ls of the dir in firefox02:22
wickedpuppyi got java installed ... but its not showing up in my path ... whereis java doesn't show either ... any ideas ?02:22
eliyahuwhich is fine (if annoying) for taking things off line but doesn't do me a whole hell of a lot of good when I need to upload something02:22
webtoek02:22
KromonosI'm away to work02:22
webtoesoudns like gnome being a pain possibly.02:23
eliyahuthats what i think02:23
webtoei'm looking at the moment, give me a couple of secs02:23
Kromonosbye and thx kemik for help02:23
eliyahubut i cant find anywhere to reverse it02:23
webtoei'm wondering whether its a setting in gconf (gnome's registry like thing)02:23
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eliyahuhow could i inspect that?02:24
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eliyahuI;m a long time computer geek but a relatively new to linux (and happy I made the move)02:24
webtoeapplications > sysytem tools> configuration editor02:24
kemikwickedpuppy:  "sudo locate -ucl 0" then "locate java" or "locate javac"02:25
webtoei've been using linux for about 5 years and still a little rubbish02:25
kemikwickedpuppy:  it's probably in /usr/local/somewhere02:25
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inc7how do i uninstall02:26
inc7like remove from registry, n dll files02:27
inc7not just folder?02:27
wickedpuppyinc7, apt-get remove *program*02:27
inc7thatks02:27
wickedpuppyinc7, type apt-get .... it will show you all the available options02:27
eliyahuwebtoe, i dont see fire fox in the apps section. where woulod it be?02:27
inc7thanks02:28
inc7should i stick with this or just go back to windows02:28
inc7u ppl really like it , or just hate windows that much02:28
wickedpuppyinc7, you want to freedom or restriction ?02:28
Aquaskyi use windows, i don't mind it02:29
inc7ya i know02:29
inc7ms sux02:29
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Rockett18I use both.. have a Linbox and a Winbox02:29
Rockett18:)02:29
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inc7win emulator?02:29
wickedpuppyAquasky, neither do it ... i use windows time to time ... but then ubuntu is my primary box02:29
Wilfi have ubuntu for my sisters, set up amsn, firefox and oo on the desktop, they can't go wrong02:30
DjKritical-during install I've been given a choice of kernals... linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-2.0.6...something02:30
Wilfbeats allways reinstalling after spyware02:30
wickedpuppyWilf, try gaim ... its so cool02:30
Wilfi don't use it02:30
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, you sure you are using ubuntu ?02:30
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Wilfi'm stuck with xp (3DS Max)02:30
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wickedpuppyi didn't get the choice ...02:30
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wickedpuppyWilf, linux has maya...02:30
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DjKritical-wickedpuppy: yeah... but I got an error during base components installl so I tol dit to do it again02:30
DjKritical-lol02:31
Wilfdoesn't help me, school computers have 3DS Max02:31
DjKritical-now I have a choice02:31
icewtis there a way to enable the debian menu in gnome (in ubuntu)?02:31
wickedpuppyah eh ... that just choose one02:31
Jerubhah. installing a single gnome application reuqires reinstalling all the xorg packages.02:31
wickedpuppyicewt, what is debian menu ?02:31
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wickedpuppyJerub, which app ?02:31
DjKritical-bah big error... reinstall number 6 now02:31
Jerubgnome-pilot02:32
DjKritical-maybe this harddrive has problems?02:32
T-Onegood morning. Can anyone answer a question about VNC for me?02:32
wickedpuppy... DjKritical-  are you reformatting the whole disk each time ?02:32
DjKritical-well re-partitioning02:32
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wickedpuppyDjKritical-, let ubuntu do everything ... if you are wiping out the whole harddisk02:32
inc7inc7@inc:~$ apt-get remove realplayer02:33
inc7E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)02:33
inc7E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?02:33
Seveasinc7, do what the thing says02:33
Seveasrun it as root02:33
DjKritical-well it's still trying to use my old partitions from an attempt at installing debian02:33
inc7anyone know whats thta about02:33
DjKritical-lol02:33
wickedpuppyinc7, only root can install remove programs02:33
icewtwickedpuppy, it's the menu which includes many of the programs that are not in the default ubuntu applications menu02:33
DjKritical-whoops?02:33
Seveasand don't paste in here...02:33
inc7so go to root terminal?02:33
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bimberiT-One: ask away, hopefully someone can02:33
eliyahufound it!02:33
wickedpuppyicewt, get those programs ?02:33
T-Onecan I remove vnc-common and install vnc4 without any major issues?02:33
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inc7alote of typin :P02:33
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T-One(vnc-common has a dependency for ubuntu-desktop)02:34
icewtwickedpuppy, er.. what i mean is, there are quite many programs that don't appear in the applications menu when they are installed. however, they usually are in the debian menu, but debian menu is disabled in ubuntu for some reason02:34
wickedpuppythat i am confused ...02:34
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wickedpuppywhat is debian menu ...02:34
wickedpuppySeveas, can help ?02:34
icewtwickedpuppy, ubuntu is based on debian02:35
wickedpuppyi know that02:35
eliyahuis there an undo in config edit?02:35
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DjKritical-wickedpuppy: I'm up to the stage "erase entire disk HDA1"... that will repartition and reformat that disk?02:35
Seveasicewt, install 'menu' or smeg02:35
Seveaseliyahu, afaik no02:35
bimberiT-One: that will be ok, BTW ubuntu includes vino (also a vnc server) in the basic install02:35
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, yes02:36
icewtSeveas, i have smeg but i'm not able to enable debian menu with it02:36
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wickedpuppythat will do everything for you02:36
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icewtwickedpuppy, debian menu looks something like that http://www.hoamskool.net/david/misc/kde_menu.jpg02:36
miojalaheij02:36
eliyahuwebtoe u still around?02:36
wickedpuppyisn't that kde menu ?02:36
T-Oneumm...when I do apt-get remove vnc-common, it wants to take out the other three...how do I force without removing dependencies?02:36
miojalahej02:36
icewtwickedpuppy, i mean the debian part of it02:36
wickedpuppyi can't see it clearly ...02:37
icewtwickedpuppy, except that it seems to be somehow broken in that pic ;)02:37
kemikwickedpuppy:  did you find your java-install?02:37
miojalajhg02:37
wickedpuppyah02:37
wickedpuppyits specific ...02:37
eliyahui want to edit a key in config editor02:37
miojalahej gays02:37
eliyahubut i deleted the value02:37
eliyahuand not it will only let me put in an interger02:37
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wickedpuppyicewt, in smeg make a new menu .... called it debian02:37
miojalahallo gays02:37
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eliyahuhow can i put in a string of characters?02:37
webtoeeliyah: i'm still here, what was the value?02:38
wickedpuppyand you can edit so it looks like your debian menu :P02:38
Seveasmiojala: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct02:38
wickedpuppykemik, yah02:38
kamstrupeliphas_: select String as value.. in the dropdown02:38
bimberiT-One: what 3? ubuntu-desktop and ...02:38
wickedpuppyat Seveas  site ... slow though02:38
wickedpuppy:P02:38
T-Oneubuntu-desktop vnc-common xvncviewer02:38
kemikSeveas:  maybe he meant it like the "other" gay02:38
eliyahuit was something linke /user/bin/mozilla-firefox/etc/etc02:38
kemikheh02:38
icewtwickedpuppy, i guess you didn't really understand this thing..02:38
kamstrupeliphas_: In the new key dialog there is a "Type" dropdown. Select String02:38
kemikthough it's highly unlikely ;)02:38
wickedpuppyicewt, yah ...02:39
darksatanicMaybe he meant "guys", but can't spell?02:39
wickedpuppykemik, can help icewt  ?02:39
webtoeeliyah: you should right click the key you want to change02:39
webtoeand select edit02:39
wickedpuppyi don't get his problem :P02:39
kemikwickedpuppy:  i dont know :) not seen what's troubling him02:39
inc7is ubantu an external build or linux/x86?02:39
eliyahui do that02:39
webtoeeliyahu: and it should let you selet string02:39
bimberiT-One: it's OK to remove those, if you must have vnc402:39
eliyahubut the only thing i can enter is an interger02:39
Seveasinc7, what do you mean with that..?02:39
kamstrupinc7: ?02:39
wickedpuppyinc7, whats external build ???02:39
T-Onewhat IS ubuntu-desktop?02:39
eliyahuthe top two fields are greyed02:39
eliyahumeaning i can only type in the value field02:39
kamstrupT-One: A meta-package02:39
SeveasT-One, a meta package that provides a complete desktop02:40
bimberiT-One: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage with dependencies to what is considered a complete desktop02:40
eliyahuname and type are greyed out02:40
inc7wich one should i download, realplayer02:40
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keith_hey how do you mount a usb stick?02:40
bimberiT-One: you're just replacing one of those elements with another02:40
kamstrupeliphas_: ... weird...02:40
webtoeeliyahu: hmmm, maybe you could delete the key and try creating it02:40
keith_is not doing it automatically02:40
T-Oneokay...if I remove that will something else break?02:40
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bimberiT-One: no02:40
wickedpuppykeith_, i plug it in and its there :P02:40
inc7linux/ppc  or linux/x8602:40
eliyahui made a new key02:40
webtoeeliyahu: i just tried it on mine also and I see your point02:40
kamstrupT-One: nope02:40
wickedpuppykeith_, try /media .. there should be usbdisk02:40
eliyahuso i deleted it02:40
keith_there isnt wickedpuppy02:40
eliyahuand am making a new one02:40
inc7https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/02:41
kemikinc7:  ppc and x86 refers to cpu-architechture02:41
wickedpuppyoh there is nothing in media ?02:41
kemikinc7:  and ubuntu has builds for both02:41
keith_theres an sda1 but the file thats on there isnt showing up02:41
inc7amd6402:41
Seveasinc7, ubuntu comes for x86/ppc/amd64/sparc/hppa02:41
eliyahuwhat should i put as the value to get it to use nautlias?02:41
keith_so how do i mount it?02:41
kamstrupSeveas: sparc as well?02:41
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wickedpuppy!usbdisk02:41
ubotuwickedpuppy: Not a clue02:41
wickedpuppy!usb02:41
ubotuwickedpuppy: Not a clue02:41
Seveaskeith_, pmount /dev/sda102:41
wickedpuppy!pmount02:41
ubotuwickedpuppy: Do they come in packets of five?02:41
inc7none for amd64, is that the prob maybe?02:41
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keith_oooooh pmount02:41
wickedpuppyah ...02:41
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: I've got another major error02:42
wickedpuppyoh ah02:42
fabbioneSeveas: you forget ia64 :)02:42
inc7wich one should i get u think?02:42
Seveaswickedpuppy, don't experiment with the bot in the channel please02:42
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webtoeeliyah: what key are you changing?02:42
Seveasfabbione, aight, since when?02:42
wickedpuppyopps sorry Seveas02:42
fabbioneSeveas: since warty?02:42
wickedpuppyoh ah DjKritical- what is it ? lets see02:42
ali_hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?02:42
ali_thanks for the help02:42
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: ok here goes.. same old error02:42
Seveasfabbione, ia64 != amd64 right?02:42
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kemikicewt:  the picture you've supplied is a screencap of KDE .. are you running gnome?02:42
keith_thanks wicked it worked02:42
fabbioneSeveas: right.. ia64 is another processor02:42
webtoeSeveas: correct02:42
keith_wickedpuppy, its umount /media/sda1 for unmounting?02:43
tjshas anyone been working on compiling ubuntu kernels to act as xenU kernels?02:43
webtoeia64 is iatanium 64 bit02:43
Seveasfabbione, hmm, never knew that there were ia64 builds :)02:43
ompaulintels world beater :-)02:43
tjsis it possible?02:43
eliyahuROCK ON WEBTOE02:43
ali_hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?02:43
wickedpuppyyup02:43
ompaul!02:43
ubotuompaul: Wish i knew02:43
eliyahuthat did it02:43
eliyahuthanks a ton02:43
ompaul!intel02:43
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, ompaul02:43
kemikinc7:  im sure the amd64 can run x86 builds.. the amd64 builds are only optimized for your cpu02:43
fabbionetjs: possible but difficult02:43
DjKritical-[!]  Install the base system - Unable to install the selected kernal -02:43
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wickedpuppybut funny normally i just right click on the folder on the desktop to umount usb :P02:43
ali_hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?02:43
webtoeits perfectly alright eliyahu. what key did you change ?02:43
kemikinc7:  and the amd64 build is not as mature as the x86  from what i've seen02:43
fabbionetjs: there are no xen patches for 2.6.10 or 2.6.1202:43
Ngkemik: correct, normal i386 code runs fine on x86_64 (amd64)02:43
DjKritical-kernal package - 38602:43
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, ah you are using ubuntu hoary right ?02:43
ali_hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?02:43
eliyahudesktop.url-handlers/ftp02:44
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: yes02:44
tjsfabbione, will ubuntu run on the standard xenU kernel?02:44
fabbionetjs: yes02:44
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webtoeeliyahu: oh right, Mine doesn't have that. Maybe default action is to use nautilus. glad its working02:44
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: downloaded hoary yesturday... md5 checksum matched... burnt the CD twice... this one was burnt at 4x02:44
wickedpuppyDjKritical-, i don't remember being asked to choose kernel ... and i just installed one a few hours ago02:44
DjKritical-I didn't get asked this time02:44
eliyahuok folks02:44
DjKritical-I only got asked once02:44
eliyahui'm back to work02:45
eliyahuthanks for the help02:45
eliyahui'll be back next time i have a question02:45
webtoei think you get asked which kernel if you choose advanced install02:45
eliyahupeace from Israel02:45
inc7so get the x8602:45
wickedpuppyoh02:45
kamstrupeliphas_: do that02:45
tjsfabbione, great. You sound informed? do you know if there are any howtos for ubuntu as guest on xen?02:45
inc7should i have installed a diff ubantu02:45
wickedpuppyyou did advanced install DjKritical-  ?02:45
DjKritical-I only got asked to choose a kernal after reciving an error message and trying to install the base system a second time...02:45
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: nope02:45
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DjKritical-wickedpuppy: I've been doing the most basic install I can02:45
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fabbionetjs: it's pretty simple to do.. use debootstrap to create the xen guest and use your xenU kernel.. nothing too fancy02:45
DjKritical-It seems as if the error messages arn't at the same stages either02:46
fabbionetjs: but i am not aware of any howto02:46
wickedpuppybut i was never asked ... can anyone who done the advanced install confirm ?02:46
tjsfabbione, okay, thanks heaps02:46
kemikinc7:  if you installed the x86 then all is fine02:46
fabbionetjs: no problem02:46
inc7i installed amd6402:46
DjKritical-wickedpuppy: I'm leaning towards harddisk problem.. because even tho I'm intentionally not trying to sound as if I know anything about linux.. I have installed other linux distros fine before.. I'm currently running debain on this PC fine...02:47
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inc7and now when i download to desktop nothin appears02:47
kemikinc7: that's fine too if you've got a AMD64 cpu02:47
wickedpuppyoh ah02:47
inc7i do02:47
inc7somethins screwy tho02:47
wickedpuppybut if its fine then there shouldn't be any prob02:47
DjKritical-this is my server PC02:47
DjKritical-I'm installing ubuntu onto my desktop PC02:47
DjKritical-it has 2 harddisks...02:47
wickedpuppyoh ... not production i hope02:47
DjKritical-a new 200gig sata with windows XP02:47
kemikinc7:  but as i said, it's not as mature build as the x86, so if you feel that youre very new to linux, maybe you should try the x86 to start with02:47
DjKritical-and an old 80gig IDE which I'm trying to install on to02:48
wickedpuppyoh02:48
wickedpuppyold 80 gig huh02:48
DjKritical-I havn't run an operating system on the 80gig HD for a long time02:48
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wickedpuppywell maybe ... get gentoo and try memtest02:48
wickedpuppy:P02:48
inc7will it be compatable with my hardware?02:48
DjKritical-?02:48
kemikmemtest checks your RAM no ?02:48
DjKritical-what does that do?02:48
wickedpuppyit test your memory02:48
wickedpuppywait should be harddisk test02:48
DjKritical-lol02:49
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-FunFusion:#ubuntu- www.FunFusion.Net New Place 4 Fun (daily updates)02:49
FunFusionwww.FunFusion.Net New Place 4 Fun (daily updates)02:49
kemikdifferent types of memory ;)02:49
kemiknice02:49
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kemikspam02:49
DjKritical-I'm almost thinking about using the 200 gig SATA HD02:49
wickedpuppyah get livecd and do fsck02:49
blaatWhat kind of program do I need to create something like this navigation --> http://www.porsche.nl/02:49
DjKritical-;O02:49
kemikDjKritical-:  partition youre 200gb and install ubuntu there02:49
DjKritical-oh my god...02:49
DjKritical-It's running my windows thats the only problem02:49
kemikDjKritical-:  use partition magic from windows, it's easy to use02:50
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DjKritical-with all my personal files02:50
kemikDjKritical-:  resize the partition02:50
DjKritical-oh?02:50
wickedpuppywell you going to need02:50
DjKritical-thats not a bad idea02:50
webtoeDjKritical: I have ubuntu on my sata drive. and it installed without a hitch. Now installing windows 2000/XP is a pain02:50
kemikyou hsould have some freespace02:50
icewtkemik, it doesn't really matter, it's the debian menu that matters. debian menu includes much more programs than the default applications menu in ubuntu. let's take an example. i install gav (GPL Arcade Volleyball). does it appear in the Applications -> Games menu? no. however, if debian menu was enabled, it would be in Applications -> Debian -> Games -> Arcade -> gav. In debian, the menu is enabled. In ubuntu, for some reason, it's disabled, even though02:50
icewtit's kind of handy.02:50
DjKritical-but isn't partition magic not free?...02:50
DjKritical-it doesn't actually write changes to the harddisk unless you pay money?02:50
blaatDjKritical- Partition magic = non free = paid02:50
webtoeDjKritical: I used ubuntu's partitioner and it worked fine02:50
wickedpuppyicewt, i don't know how to explain ... but debian menu only comes with debian ...02:50
DjKritical-ubuntus partitioner wont rezie windows partitions will it?02:51
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kemikDjKritical-:  the ubuntu installer is said to be able to resize partitions aswell02:51
SeveasDjKritical-, it can02:51
blaatDjKritical- use QTparted (free OS partitioner)02:51
DjKritical-oh really?!02:51
DjKritical-!02:51
ubotuNot a clue, DjKritical-02:51
DjKritical-no s**t!02:51
DjKritical-:D02:51
kemikDjKritical-:  ppl say so, but i've not used it myself02:51
Seveasubotu, don't interfere :p02:51
ubotuSeveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:51
webtoeDjKritical-: i used the installer one fine just make sure that you have defragmented windows drive before you start02:51
Seveasubotu, yes02:51
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?02:51
icewtwickedpuppy, i can see it with smeg, but it can't be enabled02:51
DjKritical-I defragged ages ago...02:51
DjKritical-not so long ago rather02:51
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DjKritical-I'm going to try now02:51
kemikDjKritical-:  time to do it again ;)02:51
Seveasicewt, evil suggestion: sudo smeg02:51
blaatSeveas, What kind of program do I need to create something like this navigation --> http://www.porsche.nl/02:52
webtoeDjKritical-: and remember we can't be held responsible if it hoses your hard drive02:52
DjKritical-if it's not fully defragged and I resize the partition what could happen?02:52
webtoeDjKritical-: The installer will just tell you you have a lot less space than you actually do. I think it reads from the end of the windows crud to the end of the drive02:52
blaatDjKritical- Data loss02:52
icewtSeveas, hmm.. doesn't seem to make a difference02:53
webtoeyeah or data loss02:53
Seveasblaat, a drawing program and an html editor02:53
wickedpuppyicewt, try this ... on the left debian menu .. click it .. and add new entry ...02:53
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wickedpuppydid it make the debian menu appears ?02:53
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ali_is it possible to install ubuntu via ftp ?02:53
can-o-wormsdoes anyone know what this is -> kernel BUG at <bad filename>:64129! .... and whole more garble...02:53
moe__i have broken packages that were held back during a dist-upgrade02:53
Seveasali_, yes, with a netboot install02:53
moe__how can i fix this?02:53
Seveasmoe__, apt-get -f install02:53
ali_Seveas, do you have the howto for that ?02:53
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blaatSeveas, I don't think it's hardcoded or something. How can something like this be autogenerated? Look at the crazy URL names for the sub-pages02:53
moe__did that02:53
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cafuegoblaat: and a nasty javascript menu generator or extensive javascript knowledge02:54
DjKritical-does ubuntu automatically mount fat32 partitions by default?02:54
deFryskmoe__, funny repo's ?02:54
deFryskor missing ?02:54
SeveasDjKritical-, no(t yet)02:54
Seveasbut it's easy to mount them02:54
OuarfYo02:54
Seveasblaat, then ask them, they built that site. How should I know what they use??02:54
cafuegoand those porsche people could REALLY do with soem stealth whitespace removal02:54
blaatcafuego, hmmmm. Couldn't this be a CMS thingie? I'm asking because I'll have to build something like this02:54
Ouarfwhats the root password in the ubuntu live ?02:55
ekimusOuarf: there isn't one02:55
Ouarfseriously ????02:55
Seveasblaat, this discussion is highly off-topic in here, please ask in an appropriate channel02:55
cafuegoblaat: No, that index page is done by hand/specific desktop app02:55
Ouarfekimus, and can i save files in fat32 hardisk ?02:55
deFryskOuarf, just enter02:55
ekimusOuarf: more correctly root login is disabled02:55
SeveasOuarf, yes02:55
Ouarfhow ?02:55
blaatcafuego, thnx :-)02:55
Seveasmount the drive and save to it02:55
deFrysksudo -s <enter>02:56
ekimusOuarf: passwd -l root02:56
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cafuegothey're running IIS too02:56
ekimusiis is cool02:56
Ouarfekimus,  permission denied02:56
ekimus.....if you want to collect trojans and viruses02:56
ekimusOuarf: what command?02:56
SeveasOuarf, that command was showing how they disabled root login :)02:56
cyprinusi wanted to install a program, but apt-get give informations with errors back02:56
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Ouarfubuntu@ubuntu:~$ passwd -l root02:56
Ouarfpasswd: Permission refuse02:56
deFryskmoe__, I dont do (unrequested) privating02:56
cafuegoHahaah! "This page is best viewed with Internet Explorer, unfortunately"02:56
cyprinuswhenever I ant to upgrade02:56
SeveasOuarf: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically02:56
cyprinusubuntu02:56
cyprinusi cant02:57
Seveascyprinus, why not?02:57
DjKritical-Okay here's what I'm going to do... move all (important) files over to the 80gig...02:57
cyprinusbezause of errors with this package02:57
DjKritical-and use the 200 gig02:57
ekimusOuarf: if you want to become root just type "sudo su"02:57
cafuegocyprinus: whenever I want to help someone, but they don't give any info or error messages, i can't02:57
cyprinushow can i remove instlling it by apt02:57
cyprinus??02:57
Seveasekimus, bad idea02:57
Seveassudo -i02:57
moe__ok02:57
BagsHello.02:57
Ouarfmmmh02:57
Ouarf?02:57
blaatDjKritical- use Ubuntu and you will be set free02:57
deFryskmoe__, put your output in pastebin and give the url for us to check02:57
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Kamping_Kaiserdo people know where i could aquire Linux friendly boot images for the tektronix nc200h?02:57
Seveascyprinus, aptitude remove PACKAGE_NAME_HERE02:57
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Ouarfsodu -i work :)02:58
moe__pastebin?02:58
Seveas!pastebin02:58
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:58
ekimusSeveas: what's su -i the manpage doesn't list it02:58
cyprinusSeveas: thx02:58
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Seveas^-- moe__02:58
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deFryskmoe__, see topic02:58
Seveassudo -i02:58
Seveasnot su -i02:58
Ouarfhey, in xchat02:58
DjKritical-blaat: trust me... I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE UP NO MATTER HOW MANY ERRORS I GET02:58
[FiDO] I'm having a strange problem02:58
icewtwickedpuppy, hmm.. if the menu really is totally stripped off of ubuntu, i can only wonder why..02:58
DjKritical-as you guys can see02:58
ekimusSeveas: ah yeah i usually use sudo su - anyway :)02:58
Seveas:)02:58
Ouarfin xchat can i see all raw in same windows ?02:58
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[FiDO] I'm running a webserver off ubuntu however it is only accessible from the outside intermittently02:58
Ouarfterminaaaaaaaaaaaaal02:58
[FiDO] works for 1/2 hour then nothing then 20 minutes later workign again02:59
blaatDjKritical- that's the spirit! I also helped a friend of mine installing Ubuntu on his PC. He didn't have internet, so he used my connection for the install (and all the programs and stuff)02:59
Seveas[FiDO] , :|02:59
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DjKritical-I might be tempted to give kubuntu one try if I keep getting errors after formatting my windows drive! lol02:59
blaatDjKritical- I'm only using Windows for school-purposes (windows only programs :-S )02:59
BagsHaving trouble printing to a HP7150 via USB and CUPS. I've a PPC G3 Powerbook and Ubuntu. It sees the printer but the jobs stop in the queue. This machine prints to the very same printer when it's served on a Windows XP machine, but when connected locally, it doesn't work.. .Any ideas?02:59
[FiDO] thought it was my nic but replaced it and still having same problem02:59
ekimusDjKritical-: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed02:59
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moe__deFrysk, here is the url - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/159902:59
cyprinusworks;] 03:00
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BagsI'm using Kubuntu too. It's very nice...03:00
Ouarfekimus, , how i do to become a hacker ?03:00
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webtoeOuarf: you need to learn to love code!03:00
apokryphosOuarf: a coder? You learn to program; learn a programming language03:01
deFryskmoe__, also put your sources.list in pastebin please03:01
blaatDjKritical- you'd have the same trouble with Kubuntu (KDE). Ubuntu (Gnome) is just a different window-manager. I use fluxbox nowadays :-)03:01
moe__ok03:01
Ouarfbut its long !!!!03:01
ekimusOuarf: not by asking :)03:01
Ouarf:p03:01
blaatDjKritical, sorry, I didn't follow all, but what errors do you get? (so what's your prob)03:01
apokryphosOuarf: you need diligence, as in many things.03:01
cafuegooops, nautilus seems to have crashed03:01
Ouarfdiligence ?03:01
Ouarfwhats your countries ?03:01
apokryphos!dict diligence03:01
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DjKritical-blaat: well.. I get errors at different stages03:02
apokryphosOuarf: dedication, basically.03:02
derek_hi people wow ubuntu is a great os it almost does everything great03:02
lurahmmm...is there some easy way to find out mhz of my ram?03:02
blaatcafuego, nautilus crashes all the time @ my pc :-P03:02
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Ouarfokay apokry03:02
Ouarfi cant03:02
DjKritical-blaat: and it's really hard to type these ones out =)03:02
cafuegoOuarf: I own Uganda, Mexico and Indonesia. Soon be invading Korea too.03:02
Ouarfneed eating03:02
Ouarfmy dogs  need eat too03:02
Ouarfma guitar too :p03:02
T-Oneexit03:02
cafuegoblaat: A simple 'killall -1 nautilus' solved it.03:02
blaatDjKritical, if you have a digital camera, take pictures :-)03:02
wickedpuppylurah, cat /proc/cpuinfo03:02
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ekimusOuarf: how to become a hacker: 1. google 2. google 3. patience. 4 - 499 code 500 DONT'T TELL ANYONE :)03:03
blaatDjKritical, so you have trouble installing Ubuntu? Or do you have trouble with the partitioning part?03:03
Ouarf:)03:03
lurahwickedpuppy, thank =)03:03
Ouarfthe only langage i know really03:03
Ouarfi knew03:03
Ouarfis a script03:03
Ouarfthe MRC03:03
Ouarf:p03:04
moe__deFrysk, done :D03:04
deFryskmoe__, link ?03:04
Ouarfekimus, how can i do to see all chans/pv/serv in same term in xchat?03:04
Ouarf*we can ?03:04
ekimusOuarf: dunno i don't use xchat03:04
moe__same as before i just updated post03:04
deFryskok03:04
lurahwtf? --> cpu MHz         : 597.54003:04
moe__http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/160003:04
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moe__no it wan;t03:04
lurahis that 60mhz?03:05
ekimuslurah: what's bad about that?03:05
Thunder000for some reason, neither hoary nor breezy is able to detect my Laptop DVD-ROM during installation.. I tried Debian Sarge, it detected it.... what could be the problem ??03:05
DjKritical-blaat: lol03:05
ekimuslurah: no 60003:05
cafuegolurah: It's throttled to 600MHz because it's idle.03:05
DjKritical-blaat: I wish.. I've been typing them out for the last 3 hours03:05
cafuegolurah: Or do you have a 600MHz machine?03:05
lurahyeah03:05
blaatDjKritical, that's the problem when I just join in ;-)03:05
blaatDjKritical, just type them in a text editor and then dump them to pastebin :D03:06
ekimus600MHz throttled? that's twice as much than my box has.....03:06
cafuegolurah: The numbers are always dumb, mine's 1.8GHz, but actually 1808.827 MHz03:06
ekimusi think it's time to lurk into some hardware store.....03:06
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deFryskModer,  you dont have multiverse of ubuntu03:06
blaatDjKritical, but by now you should've defined the problem? 1. Does partioning work? 2. Does it install all? ...03:06
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lurahlol03:06
lurahi ment RAM's speed :D03:06
cafuegoekimus: Mine throttles to 1004.903 MHz ;-)03:06
deFryskmoe__,   you dont have multiverse of ubuntu03:07
ekimuscafuego: shut up :)03:07
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DjKritical-blaat: partitioning works.. but suspected harddisk error03:07
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lurahlol, next time ill check first before copy/pastin :D03:07
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DjKritical-blaat: It only ever installed it all once03:07
DjKritical-blaat: even then I think I did something wrong because gnome wouldn't boot03:07
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DjKritical-I'm about to delete 120 gigs of windows crap03:07
deFryskmoe__,  line 26 and 29 you have to add multiverse behind universe03:07
DjKritical-and use my better harddisk03:07
DjKritical-and if that doesn't work...03:07
ekimusat least it has 768mb ram...03:08
ekimusabout as much as hd space :)03:08
DjKritical-atleast I've got 4 other pcs around the house03:08
DjKritical-lol!03:08
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cafuegoekimus: If it helps: "cpu MHz: 300.729"03:08
blaatDjKritical, partitioning = good (that's good). Install went OK (great). Gnome won't boot. Is that your only problem?03:08
moe__okies thx03:08
DjKritical-blaat: most of the time it wont get through the instal03:08
webtoeDjKritical-: I often wipe windows anyway. Keeps it freash and ticking along03:08
blaatekimus, mine has 2048 :P03:08
ekimuscafuego: thanks, i thought i was the only one that acutally has use for old hardware03:08
deFryskmoe__,  then update and try again ;)03:08
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cafuego(the other cpu in that box also runs at 300.729)03:08
ekimusblaat: i'd have more but the slots are full :)03:08
blaatDjKritical, did you ever think it could be a corrupt CD? (happened to me once)03:08
DjKritical-webtoe: mainly not the operating system,... but windows applications.. and movies...03:09
cafuegoblaat: The Dual Xeon 3.6GHz has 3116968 Mb03:09
ekimuscafuego: yeah mine is dual too. the good old celeron A 30003:09
DjKritical-webtoe: there's a lot of that around my lan anyways.. no big loss03:09
cafuegoekimus: Just pretend you didn't see that03:09
DjKritical-blaat: yeah covered that03:09
DjKritical-blaat: did an md5 checksum03:09
ekimuscafuego: see what ;)03:09
cafuegoekimus: The 300 is a Dual P2 (Klamath)03:09
blaatDjKritical, you could also download the Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD) and use the harddisk tools to check your HD and run Memtest (Just to be sure) or even a CPU burnin test :D03:09
webtoeDjKritical-: i Know the feeling of deleting stuff like that. Its somehow relaxing to watch it go.....03:09
deFryskmoe__, not line 26 , just line 2903:09
cafuegoit runs at my in-laws, as courier imap/webmail server03:09
DjKritical-blaat: but if this doesn't work I will be downloading ubuntu and kubuntu again...03:10
moe__thx for the help, newbie on ubuntu03:10
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dawkirstGreetings.03:10
moe__been using debian previously03:10
DjKritical-webtoe: it's also a lot quicker than moving it all! lol03:10
cafuegoComing to think of it, the dual p2 is probably BUSIER then the dual xeon03:10
DjKritical-blaat: ultimate boot cd?.. that's an idea03:10
deFryskmoe__, then it should not be too hard just read the wiki on repositories03:10
dawkirstIs there any way for me to do a "remote desktop" type of thing to my Ubunu PC at home, from my Windows PC at work?03:10
blaatDjKritical, if you're on windows, just use Nero (or something) to burn the Ubuntu CD and then select "verify written data" (or something like that)03:10
lurahis there way to find out SDRAM's mhz from console?03:10
webtoeDjKritical-: I know, have you tried moving several gigs of stuff over wireless? 802.11b no less?03:10
Thunder000for some reason, neither hoary nor breezy /j #q8linux03:11
Thunder000oops03:11
deFryskmoe__, actually read the wiki all the way :D03:11
blaatdawkirst, remote desktop... it's in gnome (standard)03:11
webtoelurah: no don't think so03:11
lurahok03:11
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DjKritical-blaat: I'm quite sure this second cd I burnt came out okay... but I will definately try that if these next steps dont work03:11
moe__i would like to set it up for my local ubuntu mirror (internode) rather then the us or au one03:11
dawkirstblaat: will it work between Windows and Ubuntu?03:11
DjKritical-okay time to repartition... brb03:11
cafuegolurah: For a 600MHz CPU, it's probably 133MHz, unless it's an RDRAM box.03:11
blaatDjKritical wait03:11
moe__do i realy need to mirrormax.net?03:11
DjKritical-bye bye pr0n!03:11
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blaatDjKritical FIRST get the Ultimate boot cd.... and burn it!03:12
DjKritical-okay I'm still here blaat :D03:12
lurahlol. this is compaq (bad word, im sorry) so i guess its like a 75 or 100mhz :D03:12
blaatDjKritical and maybe Knoppix too. Just to be sure03:12
deFryskmoe__, I dont use mirrormax03:12
deFrysk!backports03:12
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section03:12
cafuegolurah: No, the bus speed on a p3? is 100 or 133.03:12
DjKritical-blaat: you recon?.. but if it were a ram problem.. I'd be experiencing problems in windows03:12
lurahah03:12
DjKritical-and03:12
blaatDjKritical if something happens, Testdisk (UBCD) could save your behind and Knoppix could help you partition :D (it's faster than Ubuntu live CD :P)03:12
lurahok03:12
cafuegolurah: more likely the latter03:12
lurahso only two coises anymore03:12
lurahchoises*03:13
DjKritical-blaat: if it is a harddisk problem... then I'll be formating the windows drive and using it anyway?03:13
dawkirstblaat: will it work between Windows and Ubuntu?03:13
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webtoeDjKritical-: RAM is a pain and linux may just be pushing the right sort of data through your RAM to show corruption03:13
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cafuegolurah: Seeing as your CPU runs at UNDER 600MHz, it's probably clocked at 4.5 * 13303:13
cafuego!4.5*13303:13
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cafuegoSee?03:13
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blaatDjKritical, I just want to give you a couple of pointers (things you should look out for). You'll never know03:13
Seveas!133*2*2*1.2503:14
ubotu66503:14
Seveasahem03:14
DjKritical-blaat: Okay if it still doesn't work on this SATA drive... I'll be running hardware diagnostics on everything... I'm sorta happy to do this because isn't SATA faster anyway? so linux will run faster too?03:14
Seveas!133*2*2*1.12503:14
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blaatDjKritical, A friend of mine had install probs with Windows XP. The RAM was bad (wrong slot, so many many errors)03:14
lurahcafuego, thanks03:15
DjKritical-blaat: but windows xp runs fine? o_O03:15
DjKritical-or does it...03:15
blaatDjKritical, I also have a SATA drive (2nd or 3rd HD). Works like a charm :-)03:15
cafuego!(100+33)*(2**2)*(5/4)03:15
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blaatDjKritical, SATA isn't faster, only smaller cables03:15
cafuegoblah ;-)03:15
bluesceadawhere to get the kdeedu packages for (k)ubuntu ?03:15
moe__yay that worked thxt03:15
DjKritical-I hadn't actually put much thought into it perhaps being a ram problem03:15
cafuegostupid stupid03:15
cafuego!(100+33)*(2**2)*(9/8)03:16
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moe__now i just need to set up a preferenes file to tell it which repositorie to use before it goes to the next and so on03:16
cafuegoyeah03:16
DjKritical-is there a program that will do diagnostic tests in windows? instead of downloading that ultimate cd?03:16
Seveasbluesceada, install the kdeedu package...03:16
cafuego!math03:16
ubotubc -l03:16
cafuegogoo'boy03:16
blaatDjKritical, Memtest could take up to 24-hours to run all the tests! I always do that when I get a new PC, checking everything so I don't regret it later on03:16
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moe__is there a pritable version of the wiki? :P03:16
bluesceadaSeveas: i cant do that ?03:16
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bluesceadai cant find it03:16
blaatDjKritical, UBCD is better. And it's proven03:16
Seveasbluesceada, enable universe03:16
bluesceadaah03:17
bluesceadaone mom03:17
Seveas!info kdeeudu03:17
Seveas!info kdeedu03:17
brennermoe__: file > print? :P03:17
ubotukdeedu: (educational apps from the official KDE release), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 44 kB03:17
Thunder000how can debian sarge detects my laptop DVD-ROM and Ubuntu can't ? :/  I need Ubuntu for my laptop03:17
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bluesceadaSeveas: thx03:18
cafuegoThunder000: Differnt kernels03:18
webtoeThunder000: what make laptop and dvd drive?03:19
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DjKritical-blaat: okay... you're rite.03:19
Thunder000my laptop is Acer TravelMate 415003:19
brennerwhat's sarges default kernel?03:20
DjKritical-blaat: I'm downloading UBCD with bittorrent now :D03:20
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DjKritical-I wish it wern't so big tho03:20
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cafuegobrenner: Check in #debian (2.6.8 I thought)03:20
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bluesceadahm if i want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu .. which packages do i need to remove after i installed the kubuntu ones ?03:20
DjKritical-might have to pull a sicky off work tomorrow... stay up and get this sorted out03:20
DjKritical-also...03:20
CronicWow, a real live place for help.03:20
CronicYay03:20
bluesceadahi03:21
DjKritical-I'm sure I was told that SATA was faster than IDE?103:21
CronicFor some reason, I cannot login to my root account. The Ubuntu setup did not prompt for a root password.03:21
brennercafuego: just asking to see if it was more recent....if ubuntu's is newer, i would assume the support issue would have been with the older kernel03:21
bluesceadaCronic: ubuntu is rootless ... you can sudo -s to get a root console, you then need to give your user password03:21
CronicSo I made another root account, and set it w/o a password, and logged into the system as this user. - Well when I use the passwd command on this user,a nd type in my password, it replied with I have no set a password03:21
cafuegobrenner: Unless a bug was introduced03:21
bluesceadayour user has admin privileges03:21
Cronicrootless!?03:21
cafuego(newer is not always better)03:21
webtoeDjKritical: SATA is technically faster, but PATA (normal IDE stuff) at 133Mhz will be comparable03:22
brennercafuego: ah ok....i was going by the logic of newer kernel, more h/ware support03:22
cafuegoCronic: u!root03:22
bluesceadaCronic: it's a desktop linux .. time to make changes ^^ i also wondered first03:22
cafuego!root03:22
uboturoot is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:22
cafuegoCronic: Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:22
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CronicInterestingly broken.03:22
brenner"probably disabled"? well is it or isn't it. :)03:22
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Seveasit is03:23
BagsHaving trouble printing to a HP7150 via USB and CUPS. I've a PPC G3 Powerbook and Ubuntu. It sees the printer but the jobs stop in the queue. This machine prints to the very same printer when it's served on a Windows XP machine, but when connected locally, it doesn't work.. .Any ideas?03:23
Seveasbut ubotu has weird ideas about how to answer :)03:23
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cafuegoCronic: (basically, the idea is you 1) run sudo from the shell and 2) X tools prompt for your USER password, if you're in the admin group03:23
CronicWild...03:23
brennerhehe03:23
CronicThanks guys.03:23
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hatake_kakashianyone would happen to know how to disable the use of IPv6 and use only IPv4?03:23
cafuegoCronic: That's a refreshing change from the usual "omg, ubuntu is retarded i need root!" response ;-)03:24
pittipvanhoof: btw, I tried Lyx in the past, but never liked it -- vi foo.tex works much better for me :-)03:24
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pvanhoofyeah :). But I'm new with latex and wanted to know what makes content not split on page break (and I dislike \pagebreak)03:25
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nenduvelwhich decoder do you need to play avi and mpeg files?03:25
pvanhoofI was hoping Lyx was going to give me an answer :)03:25
brenneroooh, a wysiwyg LaTeX editor?  neat03:25
cafuegonenduvel: depends on what's in the avi03:25
pittipvanhoof: but \pagebreak _does_ a break, not avoid it03:25
cafuegonenduvel: 'w32codecs' should see you sorted in most cases03:25
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pvanhoofpitti, indeed, but I could use it just above the block etc03:25
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pittipvanhoof: \nopagebreak might do what you want, but only for 2 or 3 lines03:26
pittibrenner: WYSIAWYG (almost)03:26
inc7still cant get realplayer to work, also cant get helix to work, anyone know of a .bin file that they know works on amd64 ubuntu03:26
pvanhoofbut I'm going to try your suggestion \begin{figure} \end{figure}03:26
pittipvanhoof: no, that's evil03:26
pvanhoofright?03:26
cafuegoinc7: No. Run them in a 32bit chroot.03:26
pittipvanhoof: figure is a float object and probably not what you want03:26
Nginc7: it works in a 32bit chroot, they don't have a 64bit version03:26
inc7how?03:26
pvanhoofquote?03:26
pittipvanhoof: try a quote block for a start03:26
Seveas!chroot03:26
ubotuchroot is, like, at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457503:26
pvanhoofok03:26
inc7how do i get in a 32bit root03:27
cafuegoinc7: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457503:27
inc7thatks03:27
cafuegoMaybe Ubuntu AMD64 needs a big displaimer-popup before it installs: "Java, Flash, DivX & XviD AVIs and DVDs will NOT work!"03:28
moe__thx for the help. i'm off cya03:28
inc7wow man, im a newbie to linux03:29
Ngcafuego: Ubuntu i386 doesn't install any of those things, so why should it? ;)03:29
inc7gonna take a bit to undertsnad what it s doin03:30
cafuegoNg: Because they _can_ work on i386, but not on amd64.03:30
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Ngcafuego: I know what you're getting at, but it doesn't seem appropriate for Ubuntu to go out of its way to tell you that software which is against the good of Ubuntu isn't going to work ;)03:31
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batomsdoes anyone else still get the .dmrc error when logging into X03:31
batomsi can't find anything in bugzilla about it03:32
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navilonjoin /linux03:33
cafuegoNg: I thought that was the Debian policy, whereas Ubuntu was focusing on making it EASY for Desktop users to use Linux.03:33
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navilonopps03:33
navilonsorry03:33
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cafuegoNg: and they ALL want flash and Java in firefox03:33
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goomezbuenasssssssssssssss03:34
navilonhola03:34
pittipvanhoof: btw, you know "info latex"? very helpful sometimes03:34
goomezpero este canal en que idioma es03:35
goomezjaja03:35
pvanhoofok03:35
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navilonsorry, that was about all the spanish i know03:35
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goomezNo hay nadie aqui que hable espaol?03:35
goomezsoy el unico?03:36
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kemikUbuntu devels should try and make mediastuff easier to setup, ie; mp3, divx, flash etc.etc03:36
batomsyo puedo usar babelfish03:36
brenner!es03:36
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:36
goomezgracias03:36
webtoekermik: ubuntu would love to but patents stop it03:36
goomezthanks03:36
webtoekermik: you need licenses (or might need them) for most the things you just mentioned. or atleast the end user needs to agree to a contract03:37
kemikwebtoe:  well, put all with nice packageing in extras ;)03:37
kemikor something.. as it is now it's just too hard for the newbi to install03:37
kemik(or so it seems)03:37
brennerobviously i need to read up on patent law, but if they're so bad, why are we allowed to install them as seperate packages?03:38
webtoekermik: they would do but flash for example needs the user to agree to their terms through their webpage and legal obstacles stop ubuntu from distributing it03:38
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aigariuswebtoe, that is true, but that should not stop making a package called ubuntu-multimedia-extras that installs all the patented stuff (after enogh shouting at the user about patents and stuff)03:38
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aigariusbrenner, there are both patent issues (mp3, divx, ...) and copyright issues (Flash, Java)03:39
webtoeits not just patents but contracts. Most companies force as user to agree to a contract. this contract is written for the user to agree to and specifically deny people distributing it in any other form03:39
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Crystuferthank god I finally made it in here.03:39
brennerah, ok03:39
brenneri don't recall reading any disclaimers when i installed mp3/vid codecs capability though03:40
CrystuferHey guys, is it worth trying to run ubuntu on a pentium 1?03:40
kemikwebtoe:  mmh it sucks ;)03:40
SeveasCrystufer, yes, but not with gnome03:40
Seveasyou need either no GUI or openbox03:40
webtoedivx makes you i think but don't remember. mp3's its a legal grey area where the patent holders could suddenly start asking for money03:40
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aigariusstill a programm that lets you click trough all needed disclaimers, EULAS and patent warning and then downloads and installs everything could be very usefull03:40
CrystuferSo then I'd have to run it from the command line?03:40
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webtoeaigarius: yes that would be better but probably not a priority i suppose03:41
brennerCrystufer: openbox is a more lightweight desktop environ.....there are others out there, xfce to name another03:41
aigariuswebtoe, jep. we should propably propose it as a goal for the next release03:41
dbeeIs anybody having problems connecting to Seavens blackbird test server repository lately ?????03:42
brennerCrystufer: in other words, no you don't *have* to use CL only, but running the default gnome might be sluggish03:42
webtoehmmmm would of thought writing a small python/gtk app shouldn't be too hard but not sure03:42
CrystuferSo it is gonna run uber slow until I switch desktop environments?03:42
webtoenot much of a programmer myself03:42
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aigariusCrystufer, memory is also a very important issue03:42
Crystuferaigarius,  about 46 mb03:42
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brenner46?03:43
Crystuferlemme check03:43
SeveasCrystufer, :|03:43
Seveasthat's gonna be slow anyway03:43
Crystufer4803:43
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CrystuferYeah. I figured as much.03:43
webtoeCrystufer: maybe try another distro like slackware. then recompile your own kernel with stuff lopped out and pentium specific stuff in. then make sure the graphics card is set up right and run a light window manage03:44
CrystuferThe alternative is windows. I'll go find a sharp stick.03:44
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Crystuferwebtoe, man, I can't do all that stuff.03:44
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aigariusCrystufer, then it will be horribly slow, but I have run IceWm, sylpheed and some kind of a browser on 64 Mb and Pentium 233 MMX a few years ago03:44
webtoewell, even without recompiling the kernel it should be ok03:45
kemikCrystufer:  look into Vector Linux and icewm perhaps?03:45
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kemikCrystufer:  i'm running debian-serverinstall and icewm on a p2-233 64mb ram box, and it's slow :)03:45
webtoedo you know what graphics card you have? i would try a different distro though. The only reason i suggested slack was because of its minimalism.03:45
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Crystuferkemik, I'm just gonna deal with windows.03:46
blaatDjKritical, you still there?03:46
chetdamn small linux for low powered systems?03:46
aigariuswebtoe, debian is not fatter then slackware03:46
Crystuferthanks guys.03:46
kemikCrystufer:  well win98 is no walk in the park installing if you dont' have all the device-drivers03:46
dbeeI'm having serious trouble trying to get a j2re running on my system, it tells me that the libc isn't right ?? anyone suggest a solution ?03:46
CrystuferI can download them. Toshiba has a nice collection of old drivers.03:47
kemikso have your driver-pack ready, and be prepared to reboot a trillion times ;)03:47
Crystufergood call kemik03:47
blaatDjKritical, one more thing. What kind of graphics card do you have??? (I think it was a Geforce 6800 problem, that Gnome wasn't booting). You'll need to search ubuntuforums.org03:47
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CrystuferAnybody got a audigy zs?03:48
chetiven ever had a nice video card, but does ubuntu work well with nvidia?03:48
webtoeaigarius: i know its just i know slack default install has no x or anything set up, just drops you to command line and iknow it :D03:48
CrystuferAnd running ubuntu?03:48
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depravehow do i go about having certain applications start when x starts?03:48
aigariuswebtoe, same in debian :)03:48
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brennerdeprave: sys > prefs > sessions > startup progs maybe?03:49
chetgood call brenner03:49
brennerneed to be using gnome though03:49
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aigariusdeprave, either use gnome-session or make a new gdm session entery or make your own .xstartup script (if you use startx to start X)03:49
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webtoeaigarius: ubuntu is my first debian like install03:50
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Crystuferwebtoe dito I'm running it on my mac.03:51
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hmrochahello03:51
hmrochai need some help03:52
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depravehmrocha : ask your question03:52
Xappeah, kyuss and forum surfing...that's life :)03:52
webtoehmrocha: you came to the right place03:52
eolohi, wich are the repositories for win32codecs?03:52
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brennerwebtoe: what if he wants someone to help him move furniture? :)03:53
hmrochai'm switching all computers of my college from mandrake to ubuntu03:53
aigariushmrocha, good call :)03:53
webtoebrenner: then i'll hop on a plane and be there as soon as possible :P03:53
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webtoei concur, good idea. never liked mandrake much...03:53
hmrochawe use a system that allows us to install the os in a box, and deploy the os to some computers03:53
eoloplease reps for w32codecs03:53
wickedpuppySeveas, i got errors installing sun jdk from Seveas.ubuntulinux.nl03:53
wickedpuppycan help ?03:53
deFrysk!w32codecs03:53
hmrochawhat i want to do is, use the same image for all kinds of pc's03:53
webtoehmrocha: over the network? server has the image and pushes it to the clients?03:54
hmrochais that possible?03:54
deFrysk! w32codecs03:54
hmrochawebtoe, yes, over the network03:54
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eoloyes!! just to watch divx03:54
hmrochaall clients boot from PXE03:54
deFrysk! restricted formats03:54
ubotuwell, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'03:54
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webtoehmrocha: yes it is.  I have that at university (though they use a customised gentoo) not sure on the details though03:54
hmrochaa client turns on the computer and it prompts the user for winxp or ubuntu03:54
webtoeLinux Terminal Services is what you need i think03:54
webtoeyeah03:54
webtoehang on and i'll google for it03:54
hmrochathey choose ubuntu and the system download the image to the hard disk03:55
hmrochathen boots03:55
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aigariushmrocha, is the sistem your are talking about already in place for Mandrake?03:55
hmrochai created a script to configure the machine once i have ubuntu installed03:55
webtoehttp://www.ltsp.org/03:55
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hmrochaaigarius, yes, but they use a different image for each kind of pc03:55
webtoethink that's the system that's usually used03:56
hmrochaaigarius, previous system administrators03:56
cheti have a trackball mouse with like 7 buttons, are there any guides on getting it fully functional under ubuntu?03:56
hmrochai'd like to use one image for all the pc's03:56
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aigariushmrocha, you could try to just try it. ubuntu handles hardware changes quite nicely03:56
hmrochai have discovered one problem, ubuntu installation sets the hostname in /etc/hosts with the hostname set on the installation03:56
CoHI, anybody here knows about some good editor for PHP embedded in HTML for using on Ubuntu?03:57
aigariushmrocha, try DHCP for that03:57
hmrochaaigarius, i tried, but it doesn't detect the cdrw on this machine03:57
cheebyhi.  has anyone here switched from gentoo for a production server?03:57
apokryphosCo: Quanta+03:57
hmrochaaigarius, the computer i installed the os is a dell with just a combo drive03:57
chetfrom gentoo to ubuntu for server? why not just use debian?03:57
hmrochathis computer is a fujitsu siemens with a cdrom drive and a cdrw03:57
Cothanks apokryphos03:57
hmrochain Places->Computer only one drive appears03:58
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aigariushmrocha, yes, the devices have propably changed - if the writer was /dev/hdc at install and is /dev/hdd now, then the /etc/fstab will be wrong03:58
hmrochaaigarius, so, i'll have to create a script that changes the fstab for each kind of computer right?03:59
aigariusyes03:59
cheebychet, I don't disagree.  just asking about ubuntu.  seems like less hassle to maintain.03:59
JowiHi all, when running "free -t" to see the "-/+ buffers/cache". 50% of my used up memory lies there as cached - 240MB. How can I see which program is using most cache?03:59
webtoehmrocha: what sort of drive is it? weird that isn't not detected. Most ATAPI drivs should be detected at least for reading03:59
aigariushmrocha, have you tried computers with different video cards? did the redetection go correctly there?04:00
webtoehmrocha: still, you could have just one image, and in the boot script have a test for this one machine04:00
aigariuswebtoe, IIRC ubuntu doesn't redetect IDE devices on bootup04:00
hmrochaaigarius, the video cards are different but it worked fine04:00
aigariushmrocha, that is really good news. ubuntu X hackers worked quite a lot on that one :)04:01
eolow32codecs repository FOR AMD6404:01
brenner AMD64? See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439904:02
brenner[off ubotu's reply] 04:02
hmrochaaigarius, i'm very happy for changing by boss' mind, she wanted mandrake04:02
dbeeHi, I get a 'can't stat source package list' when I try to connect with seavas' server for the updated j2re package. Anybody have any suggestions ?04:03
brennerhmrocha: if they're used to kde, might be worth going for kubuntu04:03
hmrochabrenner, no, almost no one uses linux because the mandrake images were the worst thing ever04:03
deFryskmight even be worth switching to gnome ;)04:04
brennerah, ok :)04:04
brenner*nod*  first time i've heard of mandrake being chosen for that role actually ... it's usually fedora04:05
webtoeairarius: doesn't ubuntu recheck? the kernel does each time it boots it searches for ide drives. Setting up mount points is the job of /etc/fstab but labs will probably have the same setup on each disk (and if not they shoudl!)04:05
webtoehmrocha: I suggest reading up on the hotplug subsystem as well since it might be able to aid in autodetection04:05
inc7debian 386 for amd64?04:05
inc7or powerpc, is powerpc mac or?04:05
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Crystuferpowerpc is macs04:06
hmrochabrenner, everyone will like ubuntu (i hope so)04:06
brennerhmrocha: think you mistook me, kubuntu is pretty much ubuntu, but with kde instead of ubuntu's gnome04:07
webtoehmrocha: if they dont like ubuntu send them on here and we'll give them a talking to04:07
hmrochabrenner, but i want students to use gnome ;)04:07
inc7not good for some programs tho04:07
inc7and i need realplayer for streams04:07
inc7should be priority for them workin on 64bit code04:07
Sonderbladei have configured a printer with system->administration->printers and i can print a test page but i can't print to it from any other program04:07
hmrochawebtoe, i'm good at changing people's minds too :)04:07
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aigariuswebtoe, the thing is that /etc/fstab is not updated on boot, so the new IDE devices are not usable until it updated by the admin.04:08
inc7gettin a 32 bit enviroment is crazy, should i install ubuntu 32 bit?04:08
hmrochaaigarius, i'll just do a "echo /dev/hda.... >> /etc/fstab"04:08
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hmrochait should work04:08
inc7i just dont wanna go back to ms but i want everythin to work04:09
brennerhmrocha: ah, ok... *i* misundestood you then. :)04:09
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hmrochaaigarius, the only problem is knowing what kind of pc's i'm booting in04:09
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hmrochaaigarius, i still don't know how to change the hostname on boot04:10
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frans-thhi all04:11
frans-thback from work04:11
frans-thanyone canonical person here?04:11
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aigariushmrocha, if you are talking about that CD drive problem, then chect /proc/ide/04:11
frans-thi want asking about offline media repo04:11
hmrocharunning dhclient should change the hostname?04:11
aigariushmrocha, how about making a hostname from the last digit of the IP address04:12
ginger_usb on hoary? anyone?04:12
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frans-thalo04:12
rittaphi all04:12
brennerusb what?04:12
frans-thanyone can help me?04:12
frans-thi need a how to make DVD based on hoary repo04:12
apokryphosfrans-th: hi :). Did you not get a reply by email?04:12
ginger_i reinstalled and now have no signs of usb life04:12
hmrochaaigarius, dhcp gives hostnames like lab-1226 being 1 the building, 2 the floor and 26 the room04:12
ginger_it worked in warty04:13
hmrochaaigarius, with the room, i know the kind of the pc04:13
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ginger_then i did a clean reinstall04:13
ginger_and upgraded to hoary from apt04:13
frans-thwhat email? i not receive your email but paul :P04:13
ginger_and no signs of life04:13
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frans-thhow r u there apokrypt04:13
DjKritical-if your computer turns off during the ram test included in UBCD... is that bad? :D04:13
frans-ththe canonical guy not reply my email :(04:13
apokryphosvery good thanks :)04:13
apokryphosfrans-th: it's worth waiting, they're busy guys04:14
apokryphosfrans-th: I'd say give it a week or so04:14
Sonderbladelpr filename prints, gedit prints but firefox and abiword are not able to print why?04:14
frans-ththe good news, goverment agree to make the donation of PC become 80% ubuntu, 20% widnows :)04:14
frans-thsee, who is the sponsor :P microsoft :P04:14
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apokryphosfrans-th: nice!04:14
frans-thand total PC is 800 :) see 800 ubuntu :)04:14
frans-thand they agree to use ubuntu hoary04:14
aigariushmrocha, I am looking into /etc/dhcp3/ to see if there is an option to use hostname from dhcp04:14
frans-thand my team here will support it :) and we will do in voluntaire based:)04:15
apokryphosnice =)04:15
hmrochaaigarius, thanks04:15
frans-thso , i just must think how to make survive and the support of those pc stil can work04:15
brennerginger_: search the forum while you wait04:15
brenner*for a response04:15
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frans-thbut need the how to or DVD of offline media to distribute04:15
apokryphosyeah04:16
frans-thwhat r u doing there apokrpt :P04:16
frans-thdo you have skype :P04:16
apokryphosI don't unfortunately, no.04:16
frans-th:P04:17
apokryphosNot doing much; just staying here, addicted to IRC. :P04:17
evanproI gotta question about OpenOffice.org2 on Breezy04:17
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evanproI just upgraded, and I get a message "no suitable windowing system found, exiting." when I try to start an oo.o program04:17
frans-thhehe,04:17
frans-thanyway, i still have question04:17
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frans-thwhy in ubuntu no have a common repo, so the repo wil be use by all ubuntu, from warty to breezy04:18
frans-thcan you help?04:18
reagleBRKLNhow do i make entice the login manager? when i install it, it doesn't configure itself like {k,g}dm.04:18
frans-thi think wasting time managing several repo for one use, esp, upgrade mozilla :P04:18
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aigariushmrocha, you must make the /etc/hostname file empty or use "(none)" as hostname for the hostname replacement to work04:18
dbeeWhy does this connection string in scripts give me a can't stat source package list "http://seavas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu universe" ... pls help !04:18
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apokryphosfrans-th: because there's different versions04:19
aigariushmrocha, see /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script function set_hostname()04:19
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apokryphosfrans-th: breezy, for example, is going to be the new ones. It's what the devs are working on now. It was very unstable a few weeks ago04:19
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frans-thapokrypt: and will breeze have a common repo?04:19
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frans-thi think, my repo will work lie this, i will delete all the non newest repo, and push everyone to use the newest one04:20
hmrochaaigarius, thanks, i'll look into that04:20
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frans-thwhat do you think apkrypt?04:20
apokryphosfrans-th: breezy have a common repo  -- what do you mean?04:20
benkong2Is there one command that will let me install kde? apt-get install kde apt-get install kde-desktop kubuntu kubuntu-desktop etc. all fail. I ahve added the kubutu repos in synaptic. but no go. //:-p04:20
brennerdbee: probably 'cos you spelt seveas wrong. :)04:20
ginger_brenner, i'll keep looking. at this point it looks like most people have specific device issues04:21
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frans-thcommon repo, is the repo that will use by breezy and newest ubuntu04:21
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aigariusdbee, because the needed package list file ("Packages.gz" or .bz2) could not be downloaded. there must be other errors above - about "not found" or "connection error"04:21
brennerbenkong2: install kubuntu-desktop04:21
benkong2brenner, i'll try thanks04:21
brennerbenkong2: then choose it from the sessions menu at the login screen04:21
apokryphosfrans-th: breezy *is* the newest ubuntu. But it's not out offically yet04:21
Gul3hello. i try to unrar a 2GB rar file, but unrar leavs me a CRC failed message.. what does that mean, and what do i do?04:22
frans-thapokryp: this is only a case :P,04:22
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frans-this my idea about make push to newest version is cool?04:22
dbeebrenner: ya, sorry about that ... I miss spelt it on the irc only though ... the real connection string is ok04:22
frans-thso the ubuntu support from my repo only the newest - 1 version04:22
Letishi, I installed ubuntu 5.04, shouldnt it be able to play MP3s as default or do I need special codecs? Because when I start Rhthmbox, i04:22
apokryphosThat could be cool, yes.04:22
aigariusfrans-th, breezy is not stable enough for broad use.04:22
benkong2brenner, I get Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop04:22
Letist does not see the file04:23
frans-thyah, my repo will start from hoary :P04:23
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aigariusfrans-th, too much work going on04:23
apokryphosfrans-th: If Indonesia had repositories for the latest stable, then that would be good04:23
apokryphosfrans-th: good idea04:23
frans-thand will add to breeze (the stable)...04:23
brennerdbee: why not ask the man himself?  (this is the 1st i've heard of Seveas having his own repo!) :)04:23
frans-thi think there is a repo for ubuntu in indonesia, vlsm.org that repo the debian, repo the ubuntu also :) i will take a look,04:23
Gul3hello. i try to unrar a 2GB rar file, but unrar leavs me a CRC failed message.. what does that mean, and what do i do? please..04:23
apokryphosfrans-th: when breezy is stable you can have that there too, yes.04:23
frans-thbu the owner is not reply my email :( that is bad, i know the owner well :(04:24
brennerbenkong2: seomthings up with your sources.list04:24
apokryphosfrans-th: cool04:24
apokryphosfrans-th: that's a shame :O04:24
brennerbenkong2: try replacing it with this:04:24
brenner!repos04:24
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:24
frans-thyah, i will add breeze stable repo also, but i think our team will support onlye the newest -1 :)04:24
brennerbenkong2: (the pastebin link) and then sudo apt-get update04:24
frans-thbut i think unbuntu must have a common repo :)04:24
frans-thlike apache2, php, it is coomon, will use by all ubuntu version right04:24
benkong2brenner, my repos are ##Kubuntu deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main deb-src http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main04:24
benkong2ok04:24
frans-thi will manage the common repo here :P04:24
apokryphosfrans-th: nope; because packages are built for different versions04:25
dbeeaigarius: I seem to be getting a connection refused http err message ... all night long ... ahhh ! ... the web server is up though, cause I'm on his page at the moment04:25
dePOLLerm.. guys.. what is an "upstream Alioth package" resp. where do i get it?04:25
brennerbenkong2: afaik, bad idea to use kubuntu repos with ubuntu :)04:25
frans-thapokrypt: build different? what is that mean..04:25
frans-thapok: i think apache2 is same :P04:25
frans-thit is webserver right04:25
benkong2brenner, oh going to pastebin brb04:26
apokryphosfrans-th: my apache2 (on breezy) won't work on an apache2 for Hoary :)04:26
brennerdbee: what instructions are you following anyway? the wiki for java points to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions04:26
StrikeForcewhats the command to find the UTC time04:26
StrikeForcetime something?04:26
dbeebrenner: that's probably a good idea, he was on here earlier and I would have thought that he'd mention if his server was down ... on the otherhand though he may not have known himself04:26
brennerdbee: i can't see any mention of a seveas repo in that04:26
frans-thapok: how can be? apache have different version?04:26
frans-thsarge and woody, share the same apache2 repo, this is a good idae04:26
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apokryphosfrans-th: partly, but also because the distributions change. The core (and essential) packages change, so when apache is made, it has different needs04:27
dbeebrenner: I've been surfing the net most of the day, I got the instructions from here actually ... about 2hrs ago04:27
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apokryphosfrans-th: so that applications run faster in future versions04:27
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zblachg'morning04:27
brennerdbee: define 'here'. :)04:27
dbeebrenner: here as in #ubuntu irc04:27
zblachanyone know anything about wireless networking?04:27
frans-thapok: i have a case, i have warty, i want install apache 2.0.58,04:27
frans-thapok: i have hoary with apache 2.0.57, and the apache-2.0.58.deb04:28
apokryphos!find apache warty04:28
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brennerdbee: maybe i should've asked "who"? :)04:28
frans-thhow can i cannot install it :) it same source :(04:28
apokryphosfrans-th: there is no apache2 in Warty04:28
frans-thwhat is cononical team doing with this both version? so make those different04:28
zblachi am unable to find any wireless networks using my card, but its fine in windows04:28
apokryphosfrans-th: it was only built (made) for Hoary04:28
bina#debian-bot04:29
binawhoops :)04:29
frans-thapok: what is build made?04:29
frans-thapok: build on hoary?04:29
binaok, that chan doesnt exist anyway :)04:29
benkong2brenner, look here at my repos please? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/160104:29
apokryphosfrans-th: yes. Warty is very different to Hoary.04:29
dbeebrenner: I wanted to use a repository if possible because I'm having a bit of trouble with the development tools .. namely the make program that is there - but isn't actually there at all ... I'm a bit of a unix newbie !04:29
larsrohdinhi, im trying to install java runtime environmetn so i can install azureus... but i don't really understand what iam supposed to do... I've downloaded the .bin file from Sun, and ran it with sh foo.bin.... then what?04:29
apokryphosfrans-th: it's like trying to use Ubuntu apache package on Debian :)04:30
dbeebrenner: seavas himself was posting here a while ago, I presume that it was the man himself04:30
brennerdbee: i would assume so04:30
frans-thalo04:30
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brennerdbee: for make, you can install build-essential04:30
apokryphosubotu: tell larsrohdin about java04:30
brennerdbee: but if you want to install java, i'd just follow the wiki04:30
webtoe!java04:31
ubotumethinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:31
webtoesee that04:31
hmrochaaigarius, i was looking to the set_hostname function04:31
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hmrochaaigarius, but i can't find where it sets $new_host_name04:31
brennerbenkong2: personally, i'd comment out bakcports, extras, kubuntu ones, and cdrom04:31
apokryphosfrans-th: just so you see, try typing apok and then hit the <tab> button04:31
hmrochaaigarius, strange04:31
dbeebrenner: ya, I installed build-essential but I still have a make problem somewhere ... anyway I think you are right, I'll try the wiki method ... thanks and all the best04:32
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apokryphosbrenner: erm, why?04:32
twibblerdoes anybody know of any problems with skype under ubuntu ?.04:32
icewttwibbler, it works fine for me04:32
rittapno problems here too04:32
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frans-thapok: sorry dics04:33
brennerapokryphos: apokryphos er, i was under the impression you should stick with main, uni amdn multi, only enabling others when you need a certain package, and to comment them out again after use04:33
frans-thapok: what is the different of those04:33
twibblericewt: it keeps not sending the message like connection issue ...04:33
aigariushmrocha, it is getting it from the caller script IIRC. try it04:33
tcpipis wiki updated for hoary/amd6404:33
apokryphosbrenner: incorrect04:33
apokryphosfrans-th: many, many differences04:33
brennerdbee: hopefully your future experiences with linux aren't as frustrating :)04:33
zblachno wireless gurus?04:33
benkong2brenner, ok working.....04:33
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frans-thapok: i am glad if you can explain, so i can explain to the user also here04:34
brennerbenkong2: goodo04:34
webtoezblach: what card do you have and what drivers you using?04:34
apokryphos!breezy04:34
uboturumour has it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/04:34
icewttwibbler, what do you mean?04:34
brennerapokryphos: so the others are safe to always have enabled?04:34
apokryphosfrans-th: see that link above for changes in breezy04:34
survivorI have no clue how to setup ubuntu to use both monitors, can anyone point me into the right direction manpage-wise?04:34
apokryphosbrenner: you shouldn't have marillat; hoary-extras is your own choice, really; it had packages which were of questionable legality. Kubuntu one of course is fine to always have04:34
frans-thapok: i am reading04:34
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apokryphosBackports it is of course fine to always have; it's an Ubuntu sub-project04:35
frans-thapok: i just dont get the point, how can same apps, same distro, but have several version04:35
twibblericewt: I type in an instant message and it doesn't send .. and I cant connect a phone conversation ...gaim irc etc all working great so I know its not the network or internet connection ...04:35
twibbleralso works fine on windoze PC ...04:35
icewttwibbler, hm..04:35
apokryphosfrans-th: it's exactly the same for all distributions. Check Mandrake, Redhat, Fedora, Debian etc etc04:35
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brennerapokryphos: ok, then, thanks for the lesson. :)04:35
twibblericwt: exactly ...04:35
icewttwibbler, are you sure you're online with it?-)04:35
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twibblerI installed the debian package from skype site and it shows online ... as I can send two messages the it stops ..04:36
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frans-thapok: but i think if we can get the common thing that will be cool, ubuntu is one manufacturer, redhat, mandriva and suse, 3 companies04:36
brennerapokryphos: but what about the times i've heard where people have broken their systems using backports?04:36
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tottdamn.. i need help.. :S04:36
survivorAnyone used ubuntu with more than one monitor?04:36
frans-thapok: hoary, breeze, is only version :(04:36
nico_hello04:36
apokryphosbrenner: that was likely referring to the old backport system (which was backports + hoary-extras) -- didn't used to be official04:36
Hoxzerwhat is good place to search linux drivers?04:37
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frans-thapok: i use debian repo : ) for apache 2 upgrade, work well :P04:37
brennerapokryphos: ah, ok04:37
apokryphosshaky04:37
hmrochaaigarius, i can't find that iirc script04:37
frans-thall: what is backport?04:37
tottanyone got time to help? got a resolution prob..04:37
brennersurvivor: ati or nvidia?04:37
survivornvidia04:37
survivorGeForce4 MX44004:37
rittaptott: what for resolution prob??04:38
brennertott: let me guess, can't access higher res'?04:38
tottrittap: yeah!04:38
twibblericewt: just got skype icon on start menu ... not had that before ...04:38
rittaptott: you sure your video supports it04:38
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brennertott: was that yeah for me?04:39
tott_yes.. sorry.04:39
brice_I've been having problems connecting to aim using naim...do I need to forward any ports to my linux box?04:39
brennersurvivor: i'd search the forums04:39
survivorthanks, will do04:39
brennertott:04:39
brenner!fixres04:39
ubotufixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:39
icewttwibbler, all i know is that when i first fired it up and created an account, it somehow looked like it already was online, but it wasn't untill i did something i can't quite remember. but if you are able to send a few messages with it..04:39
rittaprepost to tott: you sure your video card supports it04:40
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tott_brenner: tried that..04:40
rittaptott: if it does:04:40
twibblericewt: yep but now got Message "message" not delivered yet ... arrrgggghhhhh sounds like a wiki search .04:40
benkong2brenner, you and ubotu ; are awesome its working flawlessly \\:-D04:40
rittapthen fixres is the option04:40
brennerbenkong2: ubotu's a bot :)04:40
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brennertott: ok, then i'll walk you through ... post your xorg.conf to the pastebin in the topic04:41
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benkong2brenner, I no but whoever made the bot it sure gives good info04:41
inc7hi, anyone know how i burn an iso imag to a cd04:41
aigariushmrocha, I meant that if I recall correctly (IIRC), then it gets the params from another script04:41
brennerbenkong2: everyone contributed to the trigger replies :)04:41
Kyralhey, anyone know how to set "universal" permissions on an ext3 drive?04:41
apokryphosbenkong2: anyone can contribute to the bot04:41
tott_brenner: ok thanks.04:41
inc7gives me the option to extract, do i first then burn?04:41
Kyralie, make it so anyone can have full access to it?04:41
tswhi all, Im having strange problem with my ibm thinkpad. I booted it today and I cant get pcmcia to work. /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart says "pcmcia not present" (running 2.6.10-5-686) any ideas where to look. it worked fine few days ago04:42
benkong2cool I must learn how some day as my linux skill improves04:42
rittapinc7: many programs support burning an iso already04:42
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rittapinc7: else unpacking is a good option04:42
twibblericewt: could it be the port settings in advanced .....04:42
brenner!lis!tell benkong2 about list04:42
ubotuWish i knew, brenner04:42
rittapinc7:but make sure that the folder structure remains intact04:42
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brenner!tell benkong2 about list04:42
brice_When I connect with  naim...it prompts me for my password...but never completes the connection...it just sits tehre forever.  Any suggestions?04:43
apokryphosbenkong2: just use the syntax: ubotu: X is at http://something.com04:43
Kyralanyone?04:43
apokryphosbenkong2: you can do via /msg too04:43
twibblercwert: like it says use port 80... but I have apache installed on the laptop.04:43
binawhen using apt-get install wine, i get the error  wine: Depends: libwine (= 0.0.20050310-1.1) but 0.0.20050419-1~5.04ubp1 is to be installed.  Is there some way I can stop this, or change it so as that package wont be isntalled and the other will?04:43
binawill it do much damage if i just force it n ignore it :)04:43
benkong2apokryphos, brenner ; thanks04:44
tswanyone with pcmcia knowledge?04:44
tott_brenner: pasted som stuff.. need more?04:45
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brennertott: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange04:46
hmrochaaigarius, reading the script, if the hostname is *null*, it sets the hostname04:46
hmrochaaigarius, so i changed the hostname to "" and ran dhclient, it worked perfectly04:47
tott_okie04:47
aigariushmrocha, great04:47
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rodhi04:47
Thunder000is there a way to insall ubuntu using a network installation ?04:47
rodim here to help04:47
larsrohdinok, since you just pointed me to wiki.ubuntu.com/java, where it says "NB: the hoary-extras mirrors seem to have problems now (24 aug)." Maybe someone can tell me when it will be fixed?04:47
brennertott: just checking: you wanted 1024 as your default res?04:47
rodThunder000, you can do a server install and then apt-get ubuntu-desktop04:47
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tott_brenner: no.. that's what i got now.. would like 1600*120004:48
brennertott: ok, first things first, what did the command above return?04:48
tott_brenner: nothing04:48
brennertott: eek, means we can't autodetect your monitor rates, we'll try using 1600 anyway04:49
tott_ok04:49
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brennertott: er, do you know how to use a console editor?  (in case things stuff up)04:49
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mrdeathhello all04:50
tott_not really..04:50
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benjiAnyone here ever have a problem when connecting with naim?  It prompts me for my password, but never fully connects.04:50
brennerer, ok then: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf etc/X11/xorg.backup'04:50
tott_brenner: but if things fuck up i could just boot win.04:50
mrdeathi'm trying to build new initrd for 2.6.12 kernel, and can't figure my problem out04:50
mrdeathmkinitrd -o./initrd.new 2.6.12-7-68604:50
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brennertott: booting win won't fix things though :)04:51
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mrdeathat the end i'm got no such image04:51
tott_brenner: done04:51
jbaileymrdeath: What are you doing that needs a new initrd?04:51
brennertott: do that to make a backup copy04:51
tott_brenne: hehe.. nope..04:51
tott_brenner: ok.. done04:51
jbaileymrdeath: -o really wants an absolute path.04:51
brennertott: ok, we're gonna edit the file, before we do, write this down somewhere04:51
mrdeathjbailey: with default initrd  system come to kernel panic04:51
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jbaileymrdeath: This is current breezy?04:51
brennertott: sudo cp etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:52
mrdeathjbailey: it seems that it try to boot with lvm04:52
mrdeathjbailey: yep04:52
jbaileymrdeath: Great, let's troubleshoot that first.04:52
brennertott: that will revert to the original copy04:52
jbaileymrdeath: Are you using lilo or grub as your bootloader?04:52
mrdeathjbailey: lilo04:52
brennertott: if X doesn't start for some reason after we edit this file, type that and you should be able to get back in04:52
jbaileymrdeath: For now, edit your /etc/lilo.conf file and add append = "root=/dev/FOO", replacing FOO with whatever is on the root line above that.04:53
tott_brenner: ok04:53
brennertott: done? now, see the lines with 1024X768?04:53
tott_yes04:53
Thunder000how can I install Ubuntu from am image on another machine (Network Install ) ?04:53
brennertott: insert 1600x1200 before 1024, so the line should look like:04:54
mrdeathjbailey: i allready have /dev/hda2 there. or F00 is new udev name?04:54
brennerModes                "1600x1200" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"04:54
tott_okies04:54
brennertott: correction: edit _all_ the mode lines to that04:54
mrdeathjbailey: /whois jbailey04:54
tott_ok.04:54
mrdeathups04:54
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morbidiThunder000: do the machines are equal ?04:55
brennertott_: tell me when you're done04:55
jbaileymrdeath: You already have append="root=/dev/hda2" ?04:55
morbidiI think if you want a equal instalation you can do rsync -a04:55
jbaileymrdeath: Or do you just have root=/dev/hda2 ?04:55
tott_brenner: will do04:55
mrdeathjbailey: nope. no append04:55
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mrdeathokay. i will try to add it04:55
jbaileymrdeath: You need to add the append line for now.04:56
mrdeathokay04:56
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mrdeathjbailey: be right back after reboot04:56
kerry_newbie04:57
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kerry_I am having video problems after instal04:57
kerry_my monitor is blank04:57
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kerry_anyone have any ideas04:57
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KyralNothing at all?04:57
cyprinuscompiling program give me an information back: error libz not found - please install libz-devel04:57
kerry_total darkness04:57
brennerwhen does it go blank?04:57
cyprinushow can I do it in the easiest way?04:57
brenneris the monitor still on though?04:58
Kyralcyprinus, I'm not seeing in the Repos04:58
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kerry_I have gotten it completely through the install and I remove the cd and then it does the intial restart  and then it goes blank04:58
cyprinushow can I place it in Repos?04:58
hmrochaaigarius, ok, the hostname problem is solved, now, the *new* ide drive04:59
Jowikerry_: you have to be more precise. do you get past the boormanager?04:59
cyprinusdpkg -i libz-devel*04:59
cyprinusdoesn't do anything04:59
hmrochaaigarius, i should create a /media/cdrom1 and add the entry to the fstab04:59
cyprinusnext error04:59
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cyprinusKyral?04:59
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hmrochaXenguy, :D05:00
KyralI did an Apt-cache search for it05:00
Xenguy;-)05:00
Evilelo all :)05:00
mrdeathjbailey: no luck05:00
fluffybunny_i seem to be having issues with sound -->  every mp3 or other sound file I play (using XMMS) seems to be distorted (you know like the sound you get when the volume is too loud?) --> how do I fix this?05:00
jbaileymrdeath: Did you rerun 'lilo' before you rebooted?05:00
mrdeathjbailey: kernel says that 'no /dev/hda2 found'05:00
mrdeathjbailey: yep05:00
brennerfluffybunny_: lower your volumes05:00
webtoefluffybunny_: I used to have this problem if the volume was turned to hi for PCM in the volume control05:01
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jbaileymrdeath: What's the output of lsmod | grep ^ide_core05:01
jbailey ?05:01
kerry_any ideas on my monitor05:01
mrdeathjbailey: ide_core              130384  27 ide_disk,ide_generic,via82cxxx,trm290,triflex,slc90e66,sis5513,siimage,serverworks,sc1200,rz1000,piix,pdc202xx_old,opti621,ns87415,hpt366,hpt34x,generic,cy82c693,cs5530,cs5520,cmd64x,atiixp,amd74xx,alim15x3,aec62xx,pdc202xx_new05:01
benkong2brenner, apokryphos ; woopieeee it works of to check out KDE05:01
brennerkerry_: after the reboot? do you hear your HDD working?  that's when the packages are being configured05:01
fluffybunny_brenner: and webtoe: that doesn't seem to help?05:01
kerry_yeah05:02
apokryphosbenkong2: nice!05:02
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mrdeathjbailey: i use kernel from debian testing now05:02
medamaybehi@all05:02
kerry_for awhile then it quits05:02
brennerfluffybunny_: what output plugin you using?05:02
jbaileymrdeath: Can you /msg me the entire output of your lsmod output?  (Don't flood it in here)05:02
Poromiesfluffybunny_: try to adjust your mixer / alsamixer settings.. i had a problem like that, and it was coz alsamixer had my "line-out" at full 100%05:02
medamaybedoes anyone know why I can't add my "volume control applet" to any panels?05:02
mrdeathjbailey: sure05:02
Jowikerry_: you can try to turn off the framebuffer before installation (press F7 at install boot screen to see how)05:02
brennerkerry_: can you get to the grub menu?05:02
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Poromiesat 90% soundquality was perfect05:02
ChadzaAnyoe have an idea as to a program that could save a webpage and everything that is up to 2 links away from it?05:02
kerry_grub?is that right at start up?05:03
ScOrPiO-MoFFcan anyone help me please? i'm really noob though05:03
fluffybunny_brenner and Poromies : uhm.. noob here... how do I (a) check what output plugin I'm using, and/or adjust alsamixer?05:03
ScOrPiO-MoFFah just read topic :P05:03
brennerfluffybunny_: for the plugin, ctrl+p in xmms, then look in the plugins area, change the output plugin to esound05:03
brennerfluffybunny_: for alsamixer, type alsamixer in a terminal05:04
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webtoeChadza: have you looked at curl or wget?05:04
Oewyn!ndiswrapper05:04
ubotundiswrapper is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper05:04
tottbrenner: it worked.. thanks alot!  :D05:04
webtoe!curl05:04
ubotuwebtoe: Are you smoking crack?05:04
brennertott: nice05:04
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webtoelol05:05
webtoe!wget05:05
ubotuwebtoe: I don't know, could you explain it?05:05
brennertott: copy the xorg.conf somewhere in case you need to do a reinstall05:05
brennertott: but i guess you know how to fix it now anyways :)05:05
ScOrPiO-MoFFi got an error when installing ubuntu to my partition that i made for the install, and when i progress it asks me to log in with the account details i set up, so i do, but there is no graphics its all just text...05:05
tottbrenner: yeah.. ;)05:05
ScOrPiO-MoFFi know that's the dumbest question ever posted here05:06
ScOrPiO-MoFFbut i have nfi :(05:06
JowiScOrPiO-MoFF: there was no question in what you wrote.05:06
ScOrPiO-MoFFthat makes it even dumber lol05:06
xenomeliteforceisn't it possible to use audio output for >1 applications simultaneously with alsa?05:06
ScOrPiO-MoFFerm well how can i fix that?05:06
JowiScOrPiO-MoFF: fix exactly what? your internet connection?05:07
brennerxenomeliteforce: yes it is05:07
EasterSunshine!info curl05:07
Oewynwhenever i run ndiswrapper , i get this error code when i try to load my winxp driver something about a parsing error... Do i need to use the latest version of Ndiswraper instead of the one that came with Hoary?05:07
ubotucurl: (Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server), section web, is optional. Version: 7.12.3-2ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 161 kB, Installed size: 256 kB05:07
ScOrPiO-MoFFhow can i get my ubuntu install to show me something that isn't just text... like GUI... if that's the right term05:08
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brennerScOrPiO-MoFF: so you log in, but you just get a command line prompt?05:08
apokryphosScOrPiO-MoFF: what happens when you hit startx?05:08
ScOrPiO-MoFFyes05:08
ScOrPiO-MoFFthere is no startx05:08
brennerScOrPiO-MoFF: type it in05:08
EasterSunshineScOrPiO-MoFF: did you do a server install?05:08
JowiScOrPiO-MoFF: are you talking about the installation process or after Ubuntu has installed?05:08
ScOrPiO-MoFFLOL i'm so stupid, sorry :(05:09
ScOrPiO-MoFFafter it's installed05:09
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ScOrPiO-MoFFbut an error occurs in installation05:09
iobosshi05:09
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ScOrPiO-MoFFand takes me to that screen05:09
brennerScOrPiO-MoFF: no, you're not stupid....not your fault05:09
iobosswhere i can download new login-teme?05:09
apokryphosScOrPiO-MoFF: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:09
survivorI need a package that's only available for Breezy (Boost 1.32) but have Hoary.05:10
ScOrPiO-MoFFk i'll write that down, thanks05:10
survivorWhat's the best route to get that?05:10
xenomeliteforcebrenner: But when I use XMMS (with ALSA output) and then start Unreal Tournament 2004, I get no sound in UT (here I can only choose "OpenAL") :/05:10
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brennerxenomeliteforce: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/05:10
Ngsurvivor: upgrade to breezy (unstable), wait for breezy to be released (october) or try and recompile the package yourself05:10
brennerxenomeliteforce: at the bottom05:10
EasterSunshinesurvivor: i have heard of some that changes hoary to breezy in their sources.list, installed the package, and change their srouces.list back05:10
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fluffybunny_Sound distortion: playing with alsamixer doesn't help at all. i've been told to ask if ubuntu uses arts or esd?05:10
apokryphosEasterSunshine: shaky business05:10
NgEasterSunshine: that's asking for trouble ;)05:11
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xenomeliteforcebrenner: thank you. I'll read it05:11
sproingiefluffybunny_: ubuntu uses esd, kubuntu uses arts05:11
brennerfluffybunny_: did you try and change the output plugin?05:11
xenomeliteforceonly used a German wiki before :)05:11
survivorNg: How do I update to breezy?05:11
EasterSunshinesproingie: that's wierd, i'm on kubuntu using esd...05:11
EasterSunshine!upgrade2breezy05:11
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:11
sproingiesurvivor: if you have to ask, grasshoppa, you are not ready05:11
ScOrPiO-MoFFapokryphos: thanks for the advice! i will try, and come back if i have any problems05:11
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znhhello05:11
brennerxenomeliteforce: are you german? :)05:11
Ngsurvivor: see what ubotu just said, but be aware that it is unstable and not yet released - it may not work!05:12
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sproingieuboto, upgrade2breezy is also if and when it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces05:12
fluffybunny_brenner: yes - I changed to esound output plugin - should i cycle through the other options and see if that helps?05:12
znhI just installed ubuntu with the 'server' prefix.. now I'd like to install a graphical X server.. but how?05:12
sproingieargh05:12
sproingiewhy do i keep misspelling the bot's name05:12
brennerfluffybunny_: no, changing it to anything else probably won't change much05:12
iobosswhere i can download gnome teme05:12
brennerfluffybunny_: er, have you tried any other media players?05:12
grandenIf I use apt-get install on the live cd will that work and if yes where is the program being isntalled I dont wanna write anything to my hdd?05:12
xenomeliteforcebrenner: Yes. And you are Austrian, right?05:12
apokryphossproingie: ubo<tab> :P05:12
brennerfluffybunny_: beep-media-player maybe?05:12
znhapokryphos: hiya05:12
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apokryphoshi05:13
brennerxenomeliteforce: lol, no, australian :)05:13
znhapokryphos: any idea's how to get the X server running from the base installation?05:13
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xenomeliteforcebrenner: Whoops :D I only read ".au" iin your hostmask ^^05:13
fluffybunny_brenner: well, i've tried media player, but that doesn't work at all - let me download and install beep-media-player and get back to you05:13
grandenIf I use apt-get install on the live cd will that work and if yes where is the program being isntalled I dont wanna write anything to my hdd?05:13
apokryphosznh: yes; install ubuntu-desktop05:13
znhapokryphos: I've get the xserver-xorg pacakge, but vncserver cries about 'can't found found fixed05:13
brennerxenomeliteforce: yes, easy to confuse ... i think austria is at05:13
znhapokryphos: ah ok :)05:13
brennerfluffybunny_: need to change the output plugin to esound in bmp05:14
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fluffybunny_brenner: ok, will do05:14
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xenomeliteforcebrenner: Yes, that's right. And "Brenner" is a German word, so I thought you were located around Germany ;)05:15
brennergranden: afaik, you can't install stuff with the live cd05:15
brennerxenomeliteforce: lol.  no i chose it for something else. :)05:15
pradeephi, can anyone tell me how to make my  my mouse scroll more lines?05:15
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xenomeliteforcebrenner: ok. "Brenner" means burner. Just for your information ;)05:16
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apokryphospradeep: have you not tried Settings -> Mouse (or whatever). I'd imagine it would be there05:16
funkyhi05:16
brennerxenomeliteforce: ah, cool05:16
EasterSunshinewhat do i mean in german?05:16
xenomeliteforceEaster: ^^05:16
levander`There's is any way to open a mail file on the file system with thunderbird?05:16
brennerEasterSunshine: grumpy old man05:16
pradeepapokryphos: no it isnt , unfortunately05:16
funkytoo much months with no X system in my breezy, last time i try to use an ubuntu unstable branch :(05:16
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brennerlevander`: associate it with thunderbird05:17
Funraiserto launch a sh it's "sh blabla.sh" right?05:17
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znhFunraiser: or if there's a #!/bin/sh tag at the beginning of the sh file, you can also do ./yourfilename.sh05:17
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xenomeliteforceis the ubuntu wiki down atm?05:17
Funraiseroh05:17
chrissturmis there a time tracking program in ubuntu?05:17
brennerxenomeliteforce: seems ok05:18
levanderbrenner: associate it with thunderbird in nautilus? you sure that works?05:18
chrissturmi would like to create tasks, and then just click when i work on a trask05:18
chrissturmtask05:18
apokryphosxenomeliteforce: no05:18
Funraiserznh, and how do u launch a jar?05:18
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brennerlevander: no. :)05:18
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znhFunraiser: you need java runtimes for it05:18
brennerlevander: but wortha  shot05:18
Funraiseri have05:18
chrissturmand when i stop working on it. and afterwards i would like to see what tasks took how long05:18
xenomeliteforcebrenner: it's loading since you told me so read the article :(05:18
znhFunraiser: they are also called 'jre', try googling at jre 1.4 linux05:18
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Funraiserznh, i already have it05:18
Funraiserznh (azureus)05:19
zblachwhere can I get VLC for hoary?05:19
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Funraiserznh, when i double click on it it doesn't open05:19
znhFunraiser: they you do /yourjavapathinstallationhere/bin/java -jar myjarfile.jar05:19
Funraiseroh05:19
znhzblach: sudo apt-get install vlc05:19
pradeepapokryphos: is it set in xorg conf?05:19
znhFunraiser: *then, and it has to be done in a terminal05:19
apokryphospradeep: No. It's a user setting; I know how to do it from KDE...05:19
zblachznh, thanks05:19
znhzblach: very welcome05:20
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xenomeliteforcehas anyone get a "Trust Spacecam 120" working with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04?05:20
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Funraiserznh, ok thanks are u the new pro in da place?05:20
znhxenomeliteforce: trust is untrustable.. I broke two joysticks from those guys by just playing games with it05:20
zblachznh, E: Couldn't find package vlc05:20
znhFunraiser: new.. no, pro.. depends :)05:20
Funraiserthanks05:21
pradeepapokryphos: how for gtk apps?05:21
znhzblach: then you might have to run sudo apt-setup, and chose http or ftp05:21
zblachthanks05:21
xenomeliteforcezhn: I don't play with my webcam THAT extremely ;) Just wanna watch me from the distance05:21
Funraiseru wanna watch you?05:21
znh:P05:21
Funraiser:-)05:21
znhxenomeliteforce: I think you need to get special drivers for your webcam, isn't that easy as installing a package through apt-get05:22
chrissturmxenomeliteforce, maybe a mirror would work better05:22
Funraiserlol05:22
Funraiserit works on hoary (mirrors)05:22
fluffybunny_brenner: installed beep-media-player. sounds great when I use the ALSA output plugin, sound sucks (same as XMMS) when I use esound...05:22
apokryphospradeep: no idea, I'm afraid05:22
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brennerfluffybunny_: but alsa's ok?05:22
znhchrissturm: mirrors always break when you watch in it05:22
xenomeliteforcechrissturm: If you can tell me how my chat partner can see my mirror picture above the internet, that would be ok ;)05:22
fluffybunny_brenner: alsa's great (on beep-media-player) --> all the output plugins for XMMS suck05:23
znhxenomeliteforce: there a chat application that supports webcam afaik05:23
tombshi ppl05:23
znhxenomeliteforce: *not05:23
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xenomeliteforceznh: I tried using the nw802 drivers. I was able to build them, but I can't get them running :/05:23
znhxenomeliteforce: try sudo modprobe nw80205:23
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xenomeliteforceznh: AMSN or Mercury Messenger supports webcam chat05:23
Ignignoktyo hello i am new to the whole linux scene and i am having some problems with my firefox profile, can anyone lend me a hand?05:23
znhxenomeliteforce: woot :/!05:24
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brennerfluffybunny_: interesing, but anyway, you've got sound now :)05:24
Funraiserxenomeliteforce, gnomemeeting supports webcams chat05:24
jhelgasonlving ubuntu hoary with enlightenment!05:24
fluffybunny_brenner: pity, cause I had heard that XMMS was "the best".. oh well, thanks for the help :)05:24
jhelgasonluving*05:24
Unreal_IXHow do I install the latest Gnome in Ubuntu?05:24
znhjhelgason: yeah.. E is awesome dudey05:24
pradeepall, can someone help me increase my mouse scroll rate?05:24
znhUnreal_IX: afaik I know, it's sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop05:24
Ignignoktwhenever i open firefox, it forces me to make a new profile, and i cannot save the profile in the firefox directory, can anyone help?05:25
brennerfluffybunny_: no probs05:25
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xenomeliteforceFunraiser: in gnomeeting my webcam works (but it's really bright. Adjusting the settings doesn't have any effect). I think the problem is, that AMSN and Mercury Messenger are using V4L. GnomeMeeting only works if I choose V4L205:25
znhIgnignokt: I think firefox doesn't have permissions to write data to your firefox directory05:25
xenomeliteforceznh: FATAL: Module nw802 not found.05:25
binasome configure script is asking me to export the path to qt as QTDIR, problem is I dont know which to choose form.  would it be /etc/qt3 /usr/lib/qt3 /usr/linclude/qt3 or /usr/share/qt3?05:25
znhxenomeliteforce: hmm, have you done make install after building?05:25
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xenomeliteforceznh: and insmod <.ko file> doesn't work, too05:25
xenomeliteforceznh: no. I did "make clean", "make" and then I tried "insmod"05:26
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znhxenomeliteforce: hmm make install might do the last stuff05:26
brennerpradeep: i could be wrong, but that might be done through xorg05:26
xenomeliteforceznh: There is no rule for "make install" in the Makefile05:26
webtoebina: i think /usr/includ/qt3 if you're compiling a program05:26
znhxenomeliteforce: aw.. that's a pitty05:26
binawebtoe: sweet, thanks05:26
webtoebina: or maybe /usr/lib/05:26
uthiniguys05:26
webtoeit will complain ifits wrong05:26
znhuthini: don't forget the girls05:27
binawebtoe: thanks.05:27
Funraiserxenomeliteforce, i think that gnomemeeting and netmeeting are compatible05:27
xenomeliteforcebrenner: lol. Now I know why the whiki didn't load. On my virtual desktop a security window appeared -_-05:27
uthinihi girls05:27
brennerznh: there are none05:27
Funraiserxenomeliteforce, not sure though05:27
pradeepbrenner, i increase the mousewheelinertia and restarted the X to no vail05:27
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znhbrenner: I think your wrong then05:27
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xenomeliteforceFunraiser: Yes, they should be compatible with each other. But like I said: I can't adjust the camera brightness :-/05:28
brennerznh: i guess i am then :)05:28
EasterSunshineuthini: what would make you think that05:28
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brennerpradeep: yeah, not sure really, sorry ... should be easily googable though05:28
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Seveasznh, if you add vanity entries to ubotu one more time you will be banned permanently.05:28
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znhSeveas: hi there05:29
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Funraiservanity entries?05:29
znhSeveas: I don't want to be anonying.. but I didn't do anything last months?05:29
Seveasyou're luck I made a typo in the ban last time05:29
Funraiserthat's illegal now?05:29
SeveasFunraiser, has always been..05:29
chrissturmseveas: fix the bot05:29
Seveaschrissturm, why?05:29
Seveasand what?05:30
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chrissturma bot like this needs authorized users05:30
znhchrissturm: no, the problem was at me.. I was just being anonying05:30
Seveaschrissturm, no, everybody should be able to contribute05:30
chrissturmok05:30
znhSeveas: but why do you complain me..? I didn't do anything (except that !gnome, but that was a very while ago!)05:30
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Seveas !dixi and !znh entries were there z few days ago05:31
ubotuSeveas: Not a clue05:31
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Seveaswith your hostmask as adder...05:31
znhSeveas: so.. it was very seriouse?05:31
MiPuMmm... got "little" problem with Ubunto... I mean... I installed it on my laptop... Acer Aspire 5020 serie (5024 WLMi)... It works fine... Exepect it does not find my laptop keyboard or mouse...05:31
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TokenBadwhat was the file to edit for the apt-get servers again?05:31
MiPuI need to use my USB keyboard and mouse.05:31
Seveasznh, you have been warned before about bot abuse...05:31
NgTokenBad: /etc/apt/source.list05:31
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Seveassources.list05:31
NgTokenBad: sorry, sources.list05:31
NgSeveas: ;)05:31
znhSeveas: I wasn't abusing, I don't get the clue05:31
MiPuPease msg me if you got any idea how to fix this.05:31
znhSeveas: I just want to notice people that knew me, that I changed my name - ubotu was a great way too do that..05:32
Funraiserwho would have guessed that the biggest censor of a community would be the community itself...05:32
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Seveasznh, thats stupid.05:32
Seveasand pointless05:32
Seveasand bot abuse05:32
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znhSeveas: well sorry then if you find it asusing :/05:32
Funraiseramusing?05:32
Funraiserlol05:33
znh*abusing05:33
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nebrishi05:33
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TokenBadthanks Ng05:34
nebrisI want to remove hotplug from startup, but I can't find any link to it's start script under /etc/rc2.d where is it located?05:34
SeveasrcS.d05:34
Funraiserme/ is showing a mirror to znh05:35
Funraiseroupps...broken!05:35
znhoh that makes me happy :+05:35
nebrisSeveas, but my default init level is the second05:35
nebrisdoesn't matter?05:35
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Seveasnebris, rcS is always used05:35
nebrisok, thank you very much05:35
znhnebris: the S is the prefix for Start05:35
Seveasnot in this case...05:35
znhoh :)05:36
nebrisi thought it was the folder for single user scripts05:36
MiPuDid anyone even read my message? =)05:36
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monkeypoois there any difference between distros other than these: the kernel installed, the versions and types of packages, and the philosophy of how those packages should be updated?05:36
znh...05:36
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Oewynwhenever i run ndiswrapper , i get this error code when i try to load my winxp driver something about a parsing error... Do i need to use the latest version of Ndiswraper instead of the one that came with Hoary?05:37
NgMiPu: laptop errors tend to be quite specific, it might be worth asking on the mailing list, or maybe reporting a bug if it's not working with the builtin keyboard?05:37
znhmonkeypoo: yep there's difference05:37
binais it quite safe to add debian sources to my apt-get sources list?05:37
adjacentdoes the us.releases.ubuntu.com throttle downloads?05:37
znhbina: that depends on WHAT repo05:37
monkeypoowhat would those differences be then?05:37
Seveasmonkeypoo, the speed of security updates05:37
MiPuNg, builtin keyboard/mouse does not work05:37
Seveasthe quality of packaging05:37
Seveasthe quality of integration05:37
Seveasthe support & community05:37
MiPuBut, they worked on Live test...05:37
znhmonkeypoo: ubuntu is more faced to be a up2date distrobution, and to be newbie friendly05:37
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binaznh: well, i was gna add http://apt.agnula.org/demudi.  u heard nething bad about that one?05:38
Seveasbina, no it is NOT safe05:38
Seveasuse ubuntu repositories05:38
binaSeveas: damn :'(05:38
MiPuAnd now I have installed it to hard drive, it does not work anymore05:38
binaok05:38
znhbina: haven't heard of it, and follow Seveas advice.. he's more known with the repo's05:38
Seveasbina, that one might be ok05:38
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NgMiPu: that's very odd. I don't have a laptop unfortuantely, so I'm not very familiar with them, and I guess nobody else here at the moment is, so I would suggest reporting it to bugzilla.ubuntu.com and/or the ubuntu-users mailing list05:38
Seveasit's not a 'debian repository' but 'a repository with .deb files'05:38
MiPuOkey.05:38
Seveasand I heard good things about this specific one05:39
grandenIf I isntall an app with apt-get install when I am using the live cd where will the program be isntalled?05:39
grandenon the hdd or ram memory?05:39
xerathlo05:39
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Seveasgranden, memory05:39
binaznh, Seveas: all I want to do is install an newer version of Muse. u think thatll be ok?05:39
znhgranden: depends05:39
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grandenznh: depends on what?05:39
Seveasbina, if you get no odd dependency warnings it should be ok05:39
monkeypooi'm thinking of switching distros. but i'm sure it won't do any good. i have an ati card. 9600 mobility to be exact.05:39
Want3dwhy wont my MS intellimouse work on the Breezy install version, but works fine on 5.04?05:39
znhgranden: If you configured it too install it on harddisk, it would be installed on the harddisk - don't know if this is possible anywho05:40
monkeypooi just got slackware to work with x and the drivers but can't get 3d. (that's another issue) but now I can't get the proper resolution 1280x800 and i've heard that ATI took out the option to pick that rez.05:40
grandenSeveas so its no dangerous to isntall an app with apt get cause if it will be isntalled on the HDD my sysadmin at school will prolly kill me05:40
NgWant3d: breezy is unstable, report a bug :)05:40
SeveasWant3d, check bugzille. If the bug isn;t files -> file it05:40
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binaSeveas: wicked. Thanks. you too znh05:40
znhNg: breezy is currently a bug :)05:40
Seveasgranden, correct05:40
grandengood05:40
survivor X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h <- a lib I want to compile needs this; anyone got an idea which package I need to get that file?05:40
snareguyquick question- where do i input a cvs command within Gnome?05:40
znhbina: welcome as far I am helpfull05:40
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Want3danyway i can get my mouse working correctly on it?05:40
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Ngsurvivor: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for filenames in packages05:41
bretzelI have to logout thankx all :-) I may be back under the diff. user tho :-) 67% download and still remaining 1 hour....I just hope that alinux.iso @ ibiblio foes have FTP::"resume" feature otherwize, my actual iso file is lost !05:41
brennersnareguy: using a terminal i would assume05:41
Want3dit wont scroll05:41
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brennersnareguy: apps > sys tool > terminal05:41
Ngsurvivor: in this case it looks like you want libxxf86vm-dev05:41
SeveasWant3d, some Zaxis mapping thing05:41
Seveashold on05:41
Ignignokthello, i have encountered another problem, how do i get "owner" status on my PC, or change the permissions of folders -pm me or message with answer, ty05:42
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snareguyoh... hmmm... says cvs command not recognized05:42
SeveasOption          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"05:42
Seveasadd that to xorg.conf in the mouse section05:42
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bretzelOOOOOPSSSS!!!! sorry I am stupid - wrong channel!!!!!!!!05:42
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Ngshame that X sucks at doing mice with lots of buttons and scrolling :/05:42
EasterSunshineIgnignokt: the command chown is used to change the owner of a file or folder, chmod changes the permissions05:42
bretzelhahahahaha05:42
Oewyncan anyone help me out with a ndiswrapper problem?05:42
TokenBadhmm05:42
NgI have to jump through hoops to get my 10 button one working ;)05:42
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brennermonkeypoo: fixing the res might be done by editing xorg.conf (or the xfree86 equiv.) (never used slack)05:42
survivorNg: Thanks a lot! Makes sense, too.05:43
Ignignoktty eastersunshin!05:43
TokenBadjust tried to get the java stuff that says on howto page but says not there..and already updated the reps sites...and did the apt-get update05:43
TokenBaddid that file change?05:43
monkeypooi edited that but it keeps reverting to 1024x76805:43
binaSeveas, znh: hmm, ok then, I dont think ill use that.  Tried to get rid of half of KDE :)05:43
EasterSunshineIgnignokt: and if you can use sudo without problem, then you should already have like ownership over your computer05:43
Seveasbina *g*05:43
snareguybash tells me that cvs is not a recognizable command05:43
brennermonkeypoo: what driver?05:43
EasterSunshineIgnignokt: it means you are in the admin group05:43
Seveassnareguy, then install cvs...05:43
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grandenwhat graphical editors is there in the live cd of ubuntu?05:44
nate_Does anyone know how to set the output directory in Grip?05:44
brennergedit probably05:44
chrismycould anyone help me with http://imagebin.org/326905:44
EasterSunshinegranden: i'll get gedit05:44
grandenok05:44
EasterSunshinegranden: and xemacs should be in the repos, not really a big install05:44
monkeypooi use the latest 8.16.20 ati driver with xorg.05:44
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EasterSunshines/get/bet05:45
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TokenBaddid the file sun-j2re1.5 change?05:45
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rodhow to repair a rar archive in ubuntu breezy?05:46
brennermonkeypoo: well, can't really help 'cos you're using slackware, but what i think we have the fglrx drivers available which are different from official ati, iirc05:46
apokryphosTokenBad: it's no longer in hoary-extras05:46
landottergranden, if you want lighter than the default gedit, grab mousepad or leafpad via synaptic. :)05:46
apokryphosrod: repair?05:46
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TokenBadso how install it apokryphos?05:46
chrismyhow do i fix my packages?05:46
apokryphos!tell TokenBad about java05:47
rodapokryphos, i get some crc errors... In the windows version of rar i can repair it05:47
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rodnot sure how to repair it in ubuntu05:47
EasterSunshinerod: winrar had a archive repairing feature, i guess you could run that over wine if its not too much hassle, i don't konw if there are any pure linux archivers that can repair rars05:47
apokryphoscheck the man page for rar; if it's not possible, then I don't know05:47
monkeypooi read a post somewhere saying someone updated to the new drivers and they lost the 1280x800 res.05:47
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snareguyhow do i get these blasted files off of the desktop? says i don't have permission, but I thouht there was no root account Ubuntu05:47
apokryphossnareguy: there isn't, but there is still root permissions, and files owned by root05:47
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rodEasilyOdd, i have unrar-nonfree, guess that is the underlying command line which is also used in the windows version?05:48
Seveassnareguy, sudo chown 1000:1000 ~/Desktop05:48
Seveassnareguy, sudo chown -R 1000:1000 ~/Desktop05:48
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znhhmm does the package 'smbfs' not exist anymore?05:48
nate_Has anybody else used Grip and knows how to set where the files are ripped to?05:48
apokryphos!info smbfs05:48
ubotusmbfs: (mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 340 kB, Installed size: 816 kB05:48
Seveas!info smbfs breezy05:48
ubotusmbfs: (mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 346 kB, Installed size: 820 kB05:48
Seveasthere05:48
znhapokryphos: it says it's refered to some other package05:48
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apokryphosznh: referred but doesn't exist?05:49
znhapokryphos: better said: "has no installation candidate"05:49
Want3danyone know if gnome 2.12 will be added to Breezy (stable version of it)05:49
rodyes it will Want3d05:49
apokryphosznh: then apparently -- yes05:49
ScOrPiO-MoFFThere was a problem installing the selected software. One or more packages failed to install. This may be due to bugs in the packages, or you may be out of diskspace or experiencing some other problem. <-- takes me to aptitude (well, tries, but because my ISP requires a heartbeat message to it's modems i can't connect :()05:50
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ScOrPiO-MoFFwhat can i do to fix this?05:50
jorgp2Want3d: rc is in it now05:50
Want3dIMWheel going back into the respository?05:50
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Want3drepsotiory*05:50
panchohola05:50
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snareguySeveas I have no idea what that was, but thanks05:50
snareguyit worked05:50
SeveasScOrPiO-MoFF, check your cd, installing requires no internet connection...05:51
Vixusi know this is horrendously off-topic for the channel, but how do I put colour in my console apps (ones I've programmed)?05:51
Seveassnareguy, you created the things on your desktop as root05:51
eolowhich is the deb brepository for j2re1.5??05:51
Seveasthat command made you the owner of it again05:51
Seveaseolo, no repsoitory but you can grab one of my server05:51
Ignignoktyes i just type chmod -rwxrwxrwx /etc/mozilla-firefox to change my firefox folder permissions, but instead of giving me permissions, it took all permissions away05:51
Ignignoktany help?05:51
SeveasDo /whois seveas to find the address :)05:51
eoloi've amd64 bit on hoary05:52
SeveasIgnignokt, rofl05:52
ScOrPiO-MoFFSeveas, I install, and at the end of the install I get an error saying that ^^... I sware my CD is ok, too05:52
Seveas-rwx does just that05:52
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Seveaswhat do you want the permissions to be?05:52
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Ignignokti dont even know any more, i am n00b05:52
JowiIgnignokt: - removes permissions. + adds them.05:53
Seveasthen why did you want to change these permissions..?05:53
derFlodid anyone get festival working?05:53
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snareguyare there any browser plugins that would emulate windows media 9?05:53
Seveastry: chmod 755 /etc/mozilla-firefox05:53
Seveasthat is the normal set of permissions05:53
Ignignoktty05:53
eoloSeveas you mean irc.freenode.net05:53
Seveassnareguy, mplayer05:54
EasterSunshinehow would i force locate command to update the cache?05:54
Seveaseolo, no ;)05:54
Seveashint: I'm connecting from it05:54
Want3dEasterSunshine, use updatedb05:54
ScOrPiO-MoFFi am so confused, how can i install this properly??05:54
Ngsnareguy: firefox has a nice extension called MediaPlayerConnectivity that lets you use whatever media player you like to play embedded media (assuming the media player in question can handle it)05:54
Want3d;p05:54
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sobersabrehi05:54
ScOrPiO-MoFFi have tired installing Ubuntu twice now, same error05:54
EasterSunshineWant3d: sudo updatedb seems to work better05:54
sobersabredoes anybody here have a problem to log into skype ?05:54
ScOrPiO-MoFFand i have 35.9GB free HDD space05:54
EasterSunshineWant3d: as it doesn't deny permission :)05:55
SeveasScOrPiO-MoFF, I really think your cd is bad then..05:55
Nga failing installation usually offers to test the CD doesn't it?05:55
sobersabreScOrPiO-MoFF, which error again ?05:55
Ngthe last one I did that failed offered at least05:55
Seveaseolo, if you cant find it: http://seveas.demon.nl05:55
ScOrPiO-MoFFUbuntu base system configuration failure05:55
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ScOrPiO-MoFF"One or more packages failed to install."05:56
ScOrPiO-MoFFetc05:56
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Want3dEasterSunshine, i knew u were smart enough to figure it out05:57
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VixusGreat, it's asking me to install fakeroot of the CD-Rom but it won't detect the CD.05:57
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SeveasVixus, then disable installing from cd :)05:57
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EasterSunshineWant3d: not until i tryied it once and got a million errors =/05:57
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eoloi have an amd64 still ok, Seveas?05:57
Want3dha05:57
VixusSeveas: How? :)05:57
ScOrPiO-MoFFSo I should just burn to another CD?05:57
SeveasVixus, remove the line with the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list05:58
yuachthow can i record both what i say and what i hear?05:58
SeveasScOrPiO-MoFF, first check the md5sum of the iso05:58
EasterSunshineshould i add updatedb to crontab or does does my system automatically update the db every now and then?05:58
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Seveasand if it's correct, burn on low speed05:58
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SeveasEasterSunshine, it's run daily05:58
ScOrPiO-MoFFkk05:58
Seveas(from crontab :))05:58
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whyameyeis there a good program to print CD labels using ubuntu?05:58
VixusSeveas: Oh, thanks05:58
ekimusanyone could point me to the places to get a complete english system? i had german locales rebuild them with dpkg-reconfigure LC_ALL and LANG are set to C but still some manpages show up in german :(06:00
Seveasekimus, /etc/environment06:01
VixusSeveas: Just did it with Synaptic.06:01
Seveasand you should restart X or maybe reboot06:01
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nerdy2ekimus: man mandb ?06:03
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pruttelpotanybody knows something about the XMMS stream's patch since seeking doesn't work in astream?06:03
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snareguyhow would i install a tar.bz2 file06:04
snareguy?06:04
snareguythanks for putting up with me :)06:05
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ekimushmm i'll just try to remove all locales....06:05
snareguy(tring to install mplayer)06:05
Vixussnareguy: how do you install?06:05
Vixussnareguy: Double click it!06:05
Dragonisn't there an instruction in tar.bz2 file?06:05
Seveassnareguy, install mplayer from the repositories06:06
SeveasNOT from a tar.bz2 file06:06
snareguythe apt command line that i had would not work06:06
pruttelpotapt-get install mplayer06:06
pruttelpot(sudo infront of it)06:07
Seveassnareguy, then enable multiverse06:07
chrissturmhow can i get a list of packages installed on my system?06:07
Seveas!repos06:07
ubotufrom memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:07
Seveaschrissturm, dpkg -l06:07
Seveasor dpkg --get-selections06:07
chrissturmcool06:07
chrissturmthx06:07
pruttelpotor check ubuntuguide for soms more reps and a guide howto06:07
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chrissturmis there a time logging application for gnome?06:08
EasterSunshineubotu tell pruttelpot about ubuntuguide06:08
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Seveasblegh ubuntuguide repos...06:08
Seveasevil06:08
apokryphoshasn't ubuntuguide been down for quite some time, anyway?06:09
pruttelpotnop06:09
Seveaschrissturm, time logging app? You mean a clock?06:09
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pruttelpotthey just tell you how to ad repos06:09
apokryphospruttelpot: they recommend marillat, don't they?06:09
Seveasin a bad way and with bad repos...06:09
chrissturmSeveas, a clock with a start and an end button06:09
Seveasah, a stopwatch :)06:09
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chrissturmseveas: what i need is a list of tasks, and a start and stop button besides06:10
chrissturmseveas: for clients billing06:10
pruttelpotno marillat06:10
chrissturmand it should write into a db06:10
Seveasaight06:10
Vixusis there a shortcut key to go up one directory level??06:10
Seveascd ..06:10
Vixusno, in Gnome.06:11
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EasterSunshinewow cd .. is a shortcut?06:11
zone17Hi, I am having some problems making my monitor use 80Hz frequence. I am using xorg.conf and the resolution is 1600x1200, it goes at 70Hz, but I know it can be 80, how do I force it to do 80Hz?06:11
Seveas[alt] [up arrow] 06:11
pruttelpotcd .. = up a level, cd ~ = homedir06:11
chrissturmvixus: backspace06:11
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VixusSeveas: thanks. opens in a new dir though06:11
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medamaybecan anyone tell me why I have sound in the login screen in ubuntu, but not in the rest of gnome?06:11
Vixuschrissturm: thanks06:11
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pruttelpotturn on the volume?06:11
chrissturmseveas: is there a list of nautilus shortcuts somewhere?06:12
xenomeliteforcegnihihi. Got two audio players to play the same song without no delay ^^06:12
medamaybeI can't turn on the volume...the volume control thing is...lost06:12
Seveaschrissturm, system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts06:12
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medamaybeand besides, I don't think it's a volume problem06:12
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Seveasmedamaybe, hit [alt] [f2]  and type gnome-volume-control06:12
pruttelpotsystem -> prefrences -> multimedia systems06:12
deFryskzone17, is it an iiyama LS90T ?06:12
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zone17no, philips06:13
leonelto my very non nice  surprice  Ubuntu Breezy Has  Mono     should we cara about those  ms patents ?06:13
medamaybeSeveas: "No volume control elements and/or devices found."  that's what it tells me06:13
chrissturmseveas:nautilus shortcuts arent there06:13
pruttelpothere's a list of nautilus shortcuts06:13
pruttelpothttp://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnome/users-guide/shortcuts.html06:13
Seveasmedamaybe, did you mess around with the sound before?06:13
deFryskzone17, mine , the one i just mentioned does not go highr then 70 hz also in 1600x120006:13
medamaybeyeah06:14
Seveasthen undo whatever you did06:14
deFryskluckily i prefer 1400x1050 wich gives me an 85 hz06:14
medamaybeI got the sound working yestrday06:14
kotatsuthe version of nano in Breezy enables mouse support automatically no matter what... the -m switch is supposed to enable support, but I don't see a command line switch to *disable* it... is there an environment variable or something? I hate having to alt+m every single time I run nano06:14
medamaybebut then I rebooted, and it didn't work06:14
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landotterthanks pruttelpot, first thing I did with Hoary is switch off Ubuntu-Spatial in favour of the regular spatial. ;)06:14
pruttelpotwhat is a spatial?06:14
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pruttelpot(I'm dutch)06:15
EasterSunshinewine is eating 80%+ of my processor. is this normal? i am running a game on cedega atm, star wars episode 1 racer.06:15
chrissturmis breezy finally the end of ubuntu-spatial?06:15
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CapSoftsome one experience with wifi?06:15
kotatsuchrissturm: I believe they use browser mode by default now, yes06:15
Seveaschrissturm, it'll be the end of u-s by default06:15
SeveasEasterSunshine, duh...06:15
CapSofti can't get an ip from my wireless router, my laptop does see the router. and connects but does not assign an ip06:15
landotterThose shortcuts for Nautilus do not work for spatial mode, but alt+ the arrow keys does. ;)06:16
kotatsuthank goodness... one less thing to scare new users off, a broken spatial mode06:16
VixusCapSoft: wow, you can get wireless working that much?06:16
EasterSunshineSeveas: i haven't even started the game yet though, i'm still in the launcher...06:16
CapSoftlol @ Vixus06:16
SeveasEasterSunshine, then maybe it's broken06:16
whyameyeI can't get the cd drive bay to open. The CD inside is unmounted. The eject button doesn't work. Anything I can try short of restarting Gnome?06:16
CapSoftit worked at school and i had a d/l speed from 550 kb/s06:16
VixusCapSoft: I couldn't get it working at all :D06:16
EasterSunshinethe game will probably go at .25 fps06:16
landotterkotatsu,  yeah, browser mode would be fine by default, those of us that prefer spatial can easily change that. :)06:16
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kotatsuyeah, I love spatial myself but I use browser mode occasionally... but ubuntu spatial took the *worst* part of both and combined them06:17
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kotatsuI'll never understand that one, but at least it's fixed now =)06:17
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Seveaskotatsu, sabdfl has publibly apologized for it :)06:18
kotatsusabdfl?06:18
SeveasMark Shuttleworth06:18
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Seveasaka The Boss06:18
kotatsuahh, cool06:18
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medamaybeany sound experts here?06:18
SeveasSelf Appointed Beneficial Dictator For Life06:19
kotatsuanyone know how to disable mouse support in nano from the command line?06:19
landotterLOL, the borked spatial was Mr. Shuttleworth's doing? :D06:19
ryguythis is whre to come for help, right?06:19
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kotatsulol =)06:19
Seveaslandotter, yup06:19
kotatsulandotter: yeah, but fiat hehe06:19
Amaranthhi guys06:19
kotatsuby*06:19
Seveasryguy, correct06:19
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Seveashi Amaranth06:19
ryguyoh lord, thank you06:19
Seveasyou need help that badly?06:19
ryguydoes anyone know a lot about the GRUB loader?06:19
medamaybedoes anyone have an idea  why I have sound in the login screen, but not in the rest of gnome (it's not a volume problem)06:20
darkheartWhen you install something w/ dpkg, how do you search for the name to use to uninstall the package?06:20
Seveas!anybody06:20
ubotuSeveas: I don't know, could you explain it?06:20
Seveasdang..06:20
ryguywell, sort of... i can log onto windows and i dont want to screw up my computer anymore than i have06:20
Seveasahyway: it's better to just ask your question...06:20
chrissturmmedamaybe, did you look at system/preferences/sound?06:20
TraceGreenHello, does anyone here use captive sucessfully?06:21
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medamaybeyes, but I don't know what tochange there06:21
ryguyk, well i posted it at a the ubuntu forums.. shall i send you in that direction?06:21
chrissturmmedamaybe, what is selected there?06:21
apokryphosSeveas: it was !anyone06:21
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medamaybein the general tab: "enable sound server startup" is checked, "sounds for events"  is unchecked06:21
Want3danyone know what package 'make' is included in?06:22
chrissturmmedamaybe, "sounds for events" must be checked06:22
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SeveasWant3d, build-essential06:22
Seveaswhat are you compiling?06:22
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medamaybechrissturm, I checked that, but I still don't have any sound06:22
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medamaybewhen I try to play an audio file I get this: "Could not open resource for writing"06:23
_danielhello all. i've got problems with the ibook touchpad06:23
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mrdeathguys, why ubuntu packages has such angry dependencies?06:23
chrissturmmedamaybe, what app did you try to play sound?06:23
landottermedamaybe, alt+f2 run "esd"06:23
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Seveasmrdeath, care to elaborate?06:23
apokryphosmrdeath: wait till you see dependencies on Grumpy06:23
medamaybetotem movie player06:23
medamaybeif I do  alt+f2, "esd"  nothing happens06:24
mrdeathxorg-driver-synaptics is keeping the following 61 packages installed: ...06:24
Want3dthanks06:24
Want3d:)06:24
ryguyseveas, is it okay to paste my forum thread in here for you?06:24
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chrissturmmedamaybe: run gnome-sound-properties06:24
Seveasryguy, dure, paste the url06:25
mrdeathSeveas: i think that i make them look better :)06:25
ryguyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5956206:25
mrdeathX11 drivers06:25
benjamin1254hey does ne one have ne knowledge about mac os 8 and how to boot into the mac disks?06:25
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medamaybesorry, I accidently closed irc06:25
chrissturmmedamaybe: run gnome-sound-properties06:25
medamaybeif I do alt+f2  "esd"  nothing happens06:25
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nakatahehe06:25
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nakataalt+f4ed :D06:25
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medamaybelol, yeah I missed the F2 :P06:25
_danielanyone can help me with the ibook touchpad?06:26
medamaybeok, what do I do in the sound properties?06:26
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_danielit doesn't seem to be detected06:26
benjamin1254hey does ne one have ne knowledge about mac os 8 and how to boot into the mac disks?06:26
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Seveasmrdeath, delete linspire again06:26
_danielwhen the kernel scans for adb devices06:26
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Seveasack EWRONGPERSON06:26
Seveasryguy, delete linspire again06:26
mrdeathSeveas: sorry?06:26
mrdeathoh06:26
mrdeathic06:26
Seveasthen boot from a windows boot floppy or install cd06:26
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Seveasand run fdisk /mbr06:26
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Seveasthat will get rid of grub06:27
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benjamin1254hey does ne one have ne knowledge about mac os 8 and how to boot into the mac disks?06:27
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Seveasbenjamin1254, booting on macs is done with yaboot iirc06:27
kevin_i'm trying to get the hybrid-ircd package working and i get the following error in the ircd logs (they're at debug level): /var/log/ircd/ircd-hybrid.log:[2005/8/25 17.02]  opening listener socket [127.0.0.1/6667] :Address family not supported by protocol06:27
benjamin1254?06:27
medamaybechrissturm, what do I do in the gnome-sound-properties?06:28
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benjamin1254i have an oridginal mac os boot cd though06:28
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chrissturmmedamaybe, what do you have selected for sound output?06:28
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Seveasbenjamin1254, this is not a mac support channel, try ##apple06:28
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medamaybesound output? are you sure you mean gnome-sound-properties?06:28
Dimewhats a good peer 2 peer program?06:29
chrissturmmedamaybe, sorry :)06:29
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EasterSunshineDime: azureus and limewire and good06:29
medamaybeI found the multimedia systems selector, it says Default Sink->output: ESD - Enlightenment..    there06:29
EasterSunshines/and/are06:29
landotterDime, gtk-gnutella is worth a look.06:29
Seveasmedamaybe, in a terminal type this:06:30
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Seveaslsof /dev/dsp06:30
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Seveasand paste the output in here (if it's not too much)06:30
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Amaranthso, what have i missed in my two weeks of no internet access06:31
medamaybeSeveas, there is no output :/06:31
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chrissturmmedamaybe: then you dont have esd running06:32
medamaybe...06:32
medamaybehow do I get it running?06:32
Seveasmedamaybe, try this: pgrep -l esd06:32
Seveasdoes that give output?06:32
medamaybeno06:32
SeveasAmaranth, read sounder@lists :)06:33
Amaranthack, no06:33
Amaranthi don't have a month06:33
Seveasmedamaybe, in the same terminal, type: esd &06:33
SeveasAmaranth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i152406:33
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Hitiekhehe. I come in here because my sound isn't working and what do I see, someone else whos sound isn't working. Is this common on ubuntu?06:33
medamaybeok, this is what it says:06:34
medamaybeALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave06:34
medamaybe[1]  1225506:34
medamaybe[1]    Exit 2                  esd06:34
Seveasrighhtt....06:34
AmaranthSeveas: hahahahahahaha06:34
Seveasmedamaybe, why did you fool around with alsa things?06:34
xerathhey06:34
Seveasubuntuguide crapola I guess?06:34
SeveasAmaranth, :))06:34
xerathwhen will breezy be out ?06:34
Seveas!breezy06:34
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/06:34
medamaybeI found that in the forum06:34
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medamaybeand it worked yesterday, but then I rebooted my pc, and after that it didn't work anymore06:35
Seveasmedamaybe, just as crappy06:35
medamaybewell...I'm new to ubuntu, I had no idea what to do06:35
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Seveasthen why follow random instructions found on a forum?06:35
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medamaybethey were not random06:35
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medamaybethe problem described there was very similar to mine06:36
darkheartI installed a custom kernel from a deb package I built, but I can't seem to get it uninstalled.06:36
medamaybeanyway, is there a way to fix this?06:36
Amaranthwait, smeg is installed by default now?06:36
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SeveasAmaranth, on breezy: yes06:37
Amaranthyay06:37
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Amaranthlast time i got to look it was just in main06:37
Seveasdarkheart, aptitude purge [your package name] 06:37
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guest43545hi06:38
To_Sem_Ideia_Prasome one run adesklets on unbuntu?06:38
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medamaybeSeveasm us there a way to fix it?06:39
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darkheartSeveas Oddly enough, I can't seem to find the correct package. dpkg -l linux-image* should produce the kernels I've installed, right?06:39
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dracflamlochello06:39
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Seveasdarkheart, if you named them linux-image$SOMETHING06:40
inc7hi, ubuntu wont let me boot from a cdrom, i set the bios to check for cd first??06:40
darkheartSeveas How is the package name created from a deb file? Is it made from the name of the actual file?06:40
Seveasno06:40
Amaranththe name of the file comes from the package name06:41
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Seveasyou specify it in the control file in the package06:41
medamaybeso...does anyone know how I can fix my sound?06:41
Amaranth!sound06:41
uboturumour has it, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/06:41
inc7heh06:41
Seveasmedamaybe, undo all the changes you made. Especially weird dmix things06:41
inc7how do i boot from cd?06:41
inc7should just do it right?06:42
Seveasput the cd in the drive and boot06:42
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inc7if life were so easy06:42
medamaybeundo...that might be a problem06:42
inc7and because it dosnt, it means what? disable all other drives byt cdrom?06:42
Seveasmedamaybe, surely you made backups before messing around with things you don't fully understand...06:42
Seveas</sarcasm>06:42
medamaybeyeah I did make backups06:42
medamaybeand I restored the backups06:43
Seveasinc7, check your bios06:43
medamaybebut it's still not working06:43
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inc7can a bios ever get a virus?06:43
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Seveasyes06:43
Seveasmedamaybe, then reboot06:43
medamaybeI did...06:44
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ChadzaHow do I get gnome to switch to openbox from metacity?06:44
SeveasChadza, the same way as you made it use openbox..06:44
batomscan someone help me out. when loggin into my desktop everything hangs at the gnome splash screen and i can't find anything wrong in any log files06:44
SeveasChadza, nvm -- misread it06:44
hmrochahow can i echo something that has the ' character06:45
Seveasbatoms, login in text mode and remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedir06:45
medamaybecan someone explain to me the difference between alsa and esd?06:45
Seveasecho somethin\'foo06:45
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Seveasalsa is the modern linux sound system06:45
batomsSeveas, alright, thanks. brb06:45
Seveasesd is a sound server on top of it06:45
laserlinehello all, need help with CPU Scaling...on a P3 Laptop.06:45
medamaybeso  esd is the primary server?06:45
EasterSunshineif i shut down my box, swtich the video card from savage3 to gf3, and turn it back on, will it still work? last time, i got a kernal panic :(06:46
Seveaslaserline, these don't scale afaik...06:46
laserlineWhen powernowd runs, it says: "CPU frequency scaling not supported "06:46
medamaybebtw, I never changed anything with alsa,  all I changed was  /etc/esound/esd.conf06:46
SeveasEasterSunshine, before doing it, disable the savage drivers06:46
laserlineSevas: but i have speedstep in the bios...06:46
hmrochaSeveas, that doesn't help me06:46
EasterSunshineSeveas: lol i doubt i have drivers. i get 50 fps on glxgears06:46
laserlineSeveas: but i have speedstep in the bios06:46
hmrochaSeveas, i want to echo bash code to a file06:47
EasterSunshineSeveas: and i thought linux drivers for s3 doesn't exist?06:47
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Seveashmrocha, echo bash\'code >> filename06:47
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hmrochaSeveas, no, you don't understand06:47
laserlineis there a possibility to enable cpu scaling in kernel level instead of using deamons ?06:47
batomsSeveas, no luck, even the failsafe gnome login doesnt work06:47
hmrochaSeveas, i have a shell script that must echo a function to a file06:47
SeveasEasterSunshine, it does use a driver, in xorg.conf set it to use 'nv' before switching them06:47
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Seveasbatoms, use *text mode* login06:47
Seveashit [ctrl] [alt] [f1] 06:48
batomsSeveas, thats what i'm in right now06:48
Seveashmrocha, use heredocs06:48
batomsSeveas, my xkb is messed up and doesn't allow that06:48
hmrochaSeveas, what's that?06:48
batomsSeveas, but i have a terminal open right now06:48
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zblachhi06:48
Seveasecho <<EOF >filename06:48
Seveasany 't hing06:49
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Seveasyou " want here06:49
SeveasEOF06:49
zblachanyone here a wireless guru?06:49
Seveas!wifi06:49
uboturumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:49
zblacha little more complicated than that06:49
zblachrumour has it, thats incomplete06:49
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Seveas:)06:50
laserlineSeveas, could you try and help me ?06:50
Seveaswhat's the prob?06:50
Seveaslaserline, probably not06:50
zblachSeveas, me?06:50
laserlineSeveas, cpu scaling and speedstep in the bios is the same ?06:50
Seveaswhat's the prob? <-- abach yes you :)06:50
Seveaszblach*06:50
Seveas(/me needs coffee)06:50
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zblachSeveas, i have a wireless router. Right now, i'm wired into it, and i'm connected no problem06:51
zblachi've ndiswrappered my wireless card06:51
zblachand set everything up correctly06:51
zblacheven checked things out on my router06:51
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zblachbut, i'm unable to even detect the router wirelessly in ubuntu06:51
zblachits fine in winXP06:52
Seveaszblach, do you use a hidden essid?06:52
zblachSeveas, don't think so. it is broadcasted06:52
Seveaszblach, iwlist wlan0 scan return nothing?06:52
batomsanyone else have any ideas on why gnome would hang at login, sometimes i get the splash screen and sometimes not06:53
zblachSeveas, correct06:53
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batomswhat i always get is the xkb error message06:54
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batomsthere's nothing in the logs to indicate a problem06:54
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zblachSeveas, i'm stumped. thats all i have to do to get my system up again06:54
inc7hi, im trying to burn a boot iso with ubuntu but the cd wont boot, anyone know why?06:55
Seveaszblach, I'm no less stumped06:55
inc7im extracting iso into a file then copying to cd06:55
zblachSeveas, where do i go from here?06:55
Seveasinc7, that's stupid06:55
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Seveasthat discards the boot sector06:55
zblachinc7, agreed. that is stupid06:55
Seveasjust burn it as a disk image06:55
inc7does it have anythin to do with 64bit, burning 32 bit app?06:55
zblachno06:55
inc7how06:55
inc7how06:55
zblachget something like nero06:56
Seveaswhich program do you use?06:56
inc7i got last idea from here06:56
darkheartSeveas Hmm..no luck. Inside grub's menu.lst there is an entry for it (kernel 2.6.10dh-custom) and I've tried uninstalling linux-image-2.6.10dh-custom, but it says it can't find it.06:56
inc7i just have standard unbuntu 64bit06:56
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inc7u tell me06:56
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deFryskrightclick the iso in nautilus06:56
deFryskand burn06:56
Seveaswhich program do you use *for burning*?06:56
deFryskthats it06:56
inc7i dont know06:56
inc7first time linux06:56
Seveasdarkheart, dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image06:57
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darkheartSeveas Doesn't seem to produce any useful results =\ ( http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1610 )06:58
EasterSunshineglxinfo|grep render returns: `direct render = no` is there anything i can do about this?06:59
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Seveasdarkheart, interesting...07:00
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Seveasdarkheart, download the pastebin script from that site07:00
Seveasand run: dpkg --get-selections | python pastebin07:00
darkheartSeveas Roger07:00
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batomsSeveas, i deleted the .X* files you mentioned but not luck. any other ideas07:01
Seveas.ICEauthority is wiped too?07:01
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batomsyep07:01
Seveasok, then clean out /tmp07:02
maan84Anyone know a fast/easy way to unarchive *.rar files? ty07:02
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jacobAnybody know anything about issues concerning firefox, Ubuntu, and certain routers causes enourmous waits and time out while resolving site names?  I've found a few sites that have some info on the problem, it may be a router issue.07:02
batomsSeveas, alright, have to log in and out again. brb07:03
apokryphosmaan84: rar x {somepackage}07:03
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apokryphossomearchive, rather.07:03
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jacobsites load fine by ip address07:03
maan84apokryphos: Thank you, I'll try it out.07:03
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Seveasjacob: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.07:04
apokryphosmaan84: you'll need to install one of the rar packages; they're in Multiverse. If you have it enabled in your sources.list, then you should be able to apt/synaptic for it07:04
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jacobthanks I'll try that07:04
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darkheartSeveas Thanks a lot man. It turns out that it was actually kernel-image* and not linux-image*07:04
spiralhi07:04
ChadzaWhen I was in windows, I had to set a path variable to point to the java jdk so I could call javac, how do I do that in 'nix?07:05
tahorgDuvel: that's a good nickname/username :)07:05
deFryskalmost as good as tiple07:05
deFrysktriple07:05
maan84apokyphos: I did a search and found: "rar - archiver for rar files (40 day shareware)" and "Unrar - nonfree version" is there freeware somewhere?07:05
Duveltahorg, that's a good beer too07:05
apokryphosmaan84: I don't think so, no.07:06
darkheartSeveas I have a question though, do you know what might cause a kernel panic when VFS tries to load? (I'm trying to get DMA working on my CD-ROMs, hdparm tells me operation not permitted when I try to use it on current kernel)07:06
jacobWow, thanks Seveas, that did the trick :)07:06
maan84apokryphos, ok thanks, I'll try the shareware one then :)07:06
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erosdarkheart: did you use sudo ?07:07
darkhearteros Yes.07:07
erosI don't know then :(07:07
erosI need some help with samba07:07
erosIt doesn't show up my local network :/07:07
darkhearteros =) It's okay, neither do I. I think I need to compile some support into the kernel maybe.07:07
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eroswhen i type smb://workgroepname07:07
erosit says can't connect07:08
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eros!dma07:08
Seveaseros only smb://hostname_or_ip_address links are supported..07:08
erosah07:08
Dr_FateHappy Birthday Linux!07:08
erosany idea how to get my local network going07:08
batomsSeveas, cleared /tmp and ~/.ICEauthority and still nothhing, metacity doesn't even start07:08
erosi read the guide07:08
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Seveas'the guide'?07:09
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erosYeah, the ones in the wiki07:09
rober90hello everybody07:09
eroshello rober90 :)07:09
darkhearteros You might try installing LinNeighborhood...graphical bit o' software that helps mounting smb partitions.07:09
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erosdo i need to mount other pc's ?07:10
erosI don't see any other network clients at all07:10
darkheartSeveas Do you know if being able to enable DMA on my CD-ROMs has anything to do w/ scsi emulation?07:10
silentiggersomeone uses powerpc ubuntu?/07:10
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znhhmm.. how to get the dutch keyboard layout? - it's not listed in gnome->system->keyboard07:11
batomseros, try smbclient -L //hostname where hostname is the name of the host your trying to connect to07:11
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mjrdarkheart, don't use scsi-emu if you want to use dma. And don't use even if you dont...07:11
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SolidRavencan anybody tell me how i recover the hotplug system ?07:12
SolidRavenits not ndiswrapper that messed up the kernel like i tought it did07:12
znh!keyboard-layout07:12
ubotuznh: I give up, what is it?07:12
znh!lkeyboard07:12
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ubotuznh: What?07:12
darkheartmjr Understood. Would you perhaps know why I am unable to enable dma on the drives? hdparm says operation not permitted, I figured I needed to add some kind of support to my kernel.07:12
znh....07:12
znhhow to get keyboard layouts?07:12
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SolidRavenuh, can anybody tell me how to reset the hotplug sub system?07:13
SolidRavenor how its called07:13
znhSolidRaven, sudo apt-get remove hotplug --purge, sudo apt-get install hotplug07:13
SolidRavenmhh, goign to write that down07:13
SolidRaveni hope i am able to boot into recovery mode07:13
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znhchannel seems to be death :/..07:14
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znh!layout07:14
ubotuWish i knew, znh07:14
znhstupid bot07:14
batomsanyone know why gnome-session could hang07:14
ztonzy!UI07:14
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ztonzy07:14
ztonzylol07:15
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SolidRavenbatoms > because xserv failed07:15
ztonzythe bot doesn't even know what a user interface is ;)07:15
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znhubotu, UI is the shortcut of "User Interface".07:15
ubotuznh: okay07:15
SolidRavenit does know this:07:15
znh!ui07:15
ubotuui is, like, totally, the shortcut of "User Interface".07:15
SolidRaven!ubuntu07:15
ubotufrom memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards07:15
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SolidRaven!gnome07:16
ubotuI guess gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.07:16
erosbatoms: do i need to put smb:// before that ?07:16
wrtpeepsdoes anyone else get a 404 error from security.ubuntu.com when trying to install certain packages?07:16
Duvelznh you want to set an other type of keyboard??07:16
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znhSeveas, If I am wrong by adding this, then please tell me now!07:16
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znhDuvel, yeah.. but it isn't listed in the layout list07:16
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apokryphos"the shortcut for..."? ;-) 'Tis an acronym07:16
Duvelsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:16
batomseros, not if you mean on the smbclient command07:16
apokryphosznh: and no, of course it's fine to add07:17
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Duvelor culd also be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8607:17
Thorondorwhen trying to SVN i always get "svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/path' -- svn: PROPFIND of '/path': 200 OK (server)" - a friend of mine told me this could be a client problem. any suggestions?07:17
znhDuvel, that's not the problem.. I just don't have the keyboard layouts installed07:17
batomseros, smbclient -L //hostname should tell you if you can connect to the host and if you can what shares are available07:17
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Duvelthat's where you configure your keyboard07:18
znh:-)07:18
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eroshmm07:19
eroswe found the problem07:19
erosi'm not connected07:19
eroswhat now :o?07:19
batomsSolidRaven, what do you mean xserv failed07:19
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batomseros, its probably a smb.conf problem07:19
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pirasthi, I have Breezy. The problem is when I apt-get install nvidia-glx is says that libglu1-mesa is not installed. But it is installed.. What's the problem?07:19
batomseros, type 'testparm' first and make sure you don't have any errors in smb.conf07:20
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silentiggersomeone uses powerpc ubuntu?/07:20
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drewfusmaximusi need to change my resolution but my only option is 640x48007:21
apokryphos!resolution07:21
ubotuhmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:21
drewfusmaximuscan anyone help?07:21
batomswhen i start gnome-session i get a bunch of _IceTrans* errors07:21
drewfusmaximusok07:21
apokryphos!anyone07:21
ubotuI guess anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>07:21
apokryphos8)07:21
batomsand my gnome login hangs07:21
eroshmm07:22
erosseems there are no problems07:22
silentiggeri'm problem with sound level ubutun powerpc version07:22
erosshould i try resseting the local modem?07:22
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erosand restart the pcs07:22
batomseros, do you know the IP address of the machine you are trying to connect to07:22
batomseros, if so can you ping it07:22
eroslet me see07:22
silentiggereros, can you help-me?07:23
eroswe've got dhcp here07:23
erossilentigger: if I can07:23
eroswhats the problem ?07:23
silentiggeri'm problem with sound level ubutun powerpc version07:23
silentiggerpowerpc07:23
maan84Does anyone know if Gnomebakes is able to burn CD Image -> *.img or do I need a plugin or a diff program? ty07:23
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maan84Gnomebaker*07:23
silentiggermy iBook G407:23
eroswhats kind of sound problem ?07:24
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eros*what07:24
silentiggerlevel in audio files07:24
erossorry, i cant help you there :(07:24
yuachthello. where's the boot script located? want to add some lines to use at boot07:24
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LaserLineHello All !07:25
silentiggervery short07:25
LaserLineI think my ext3fs is dying.........07:25
silentiggereros, ok thanks07:25
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LaserLineanyone knows how to fix the filesystem ?07:26
EasterSunshine!info fsck07:26
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zblachhi07:27
zblachstill looking for a wireless guru. any takers?07:27
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yuachtzblach, if by guru you mean a guy who never used it or don't know shit abt it, then yes, here i am ;)07:28
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bamiauxhello, does anyone know how to add ubuntu breezy colony 3 iso to apt sources ? It would prevent me to download uneeded packages07:28
robertbbzblach: What is your question?07:28
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robertbbYou can pm if you like, but you will probably get more help in channel07:28
zblachrobertbb, my wlan0 scan returns nothing07:28
zblacheven tho the network is accessible though windows with the same settings07:29
robertbbAre you trying to sniff packets?07:29
flogistonHi does anyone here got a thinkpad x41 with Ubuntu installed?07:29
bamiauxmaybe the line is already here in the /etc/apt/sources.list for those who did install breezy with colony 3 iso07:29
zblachrobertbb, i'm trying to connect to my network wirelessly07:29
robertbbSo, in Windows you can connect..07:29
zblachi'm hardwired into it right now07:29
robertbbIn Ubuntu you can't?07:29
zblachyeah,07:29
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robertbbDo you have any weird wpa needs?07:29
robertbbOr should it be straight forward?07:29
zblachuse WEP, but i've set taht up already07:30
zblachit should be straight forward07:30
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laserlineI need a little help with filesystem corruption.... anybody up for the job ? :-\07:30
robertbbWhat chipset does your card use?07:30
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zblach*whew* it uses the broadcom chipset, but its a linksys card. i've ndiswrappered it successfully using the WMP11V27 drivers from linksys07:31
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laserlineI get a lot of INODE blah blah.... when trying to boot... ( I manage to boot - but i don't like the error messages)07:31
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WeirdAlI'm getting a kernel panic when I boot up.07:32
WeirdAlThe nature of it suggests that /dev/hda1 doesn't exist, but I've booted DSL and had a look and it's all there07:32
robertbbhmm..07:32
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medamaybehi@all07:32
robertbbI seriously have issues with NDISwrapper07:32
zblachoh? why's that?07:32
robertbbI've never had the pain of trying to get a chipset that requires it to work07:32
medamaybeis it true that the first user should be able to use sudo?07:32
laserlineIs there a utility that checks the Health of the Hard-Drive physically ?07:32
robertbbzblach: Sorry, I can't help when it comes to NDISwrapper.  The blind shouldn't lead the blind, I've never used it..07:33
iotc247Is there a way to get a package for firefox-trunk so that the firefox in breezy is upgraded to trunk?07:33
zblachrobertbb, ndiswrapper works fine. i'm just having troubles with iwlist07:33
EasterSunshinemedamaybe: afaik, any user part of the admin group can use sudo07:33
robertbbOnly advice I can give you is to flash the cards firmware if necessary, and find a good tutorial online07:34
robertbboic....07:34
robertbbIn that case07:34
robertbbMaybe that chipset doesn't support rfmon?07:34
medamaybe"afaik" ?07:34
robertbbAs in, maybe the driver doesn't07:34
zblachrfmon?07:34
zblachradio-frequency monitor?07:34
robertbbYeah07:34
WeirdAlAnywhere I can get the kernel from so I can see if it's corrupted?07:34
medamaybeEasterSunshine: well, my first user can't use sudo (I didn't change anything, I just installed ubuntu)07:34
robertbbI know that different chipsets under Linux have varying levels of functionality07:35
robertbbAnd I'm not sure whether, using NDISwrapper, all functions (e.g. iwlist) is supported or supposed to work07:35
zblachno errors are given07:36
zblachit just reports 'no networks found'07:36
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robertbbDo you need to turn on something like 'promiscuous' mode?07:36
robertbbi.e. rfmon mode07:36
robertbbI know you do for the intel cards 2200/291507:36
EasterSunshine!afaik07:37
ubotuEasterSunshine: I don't know07:37
zblachit have it broadcast the essid07:37
robertbbque?07:37
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medamaybesomeone here told me yesterday, that the first user is part of the group that can use sudo, but it can't :(07:37
jAvier0hi everyone. is here anybody in charge of the 'trademark' or 'marketing'?07:38
robertbbmedamaybe: So add the desired user to sudoers file07:38
maan84Anyone know how I can burn a *.img file in Ubuntu, Gnomebaker only wanna work with *.iso? :)07:38
iotc247Is there a way to get firefox trunk to replace the current firefox package?07:38
zblachrobertbb, dunno. i'm just reading things in the config menu07:38
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nophixmaan84: try k3b07:38
maan84nophix, k3b? =P07:38
nophixmaan84: google07:39
medamayberobertbb: k...but I just don't like the idea that something is supposed to work, but it's not working...and at this rate I'll probably screw everything up again07:39
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slask3nI cant make my microphone work in linux :s What can I do? I've checked everything in alsamixer, but I still cant make it work properly...07:39
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maan84nophix, I found k3b in synaptic, though it says it's for KDE? Using Ubuntu (Gnome) :(07:39
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nophixmaan84: don't matter, kde works in ubuntu too07:40
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pomalindoes somebody know why nvidia-glx is removed from my breezy, and replace by libdrm, and why I don't have direct rendering ?07:40
maan84nophix, I can just mark k3b for installation and I can find it in the menus and run it from gnome after installation?07:40
nophixmaan84: of course07:41
maan84nophix, awesome :)07:41
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jAvier0i'm working in a ubuntu site and i need to contact the trademark people, i've sent an email to the address listed in the website but i had never received an answer. anyone knows who can i contact?07:41
iotc247Is there a way to get firefox trunk to replace the current firefox package?07:42
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KING^^^hello , i want to install vmware and i'm stuck here : What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running07:43
KING^^^kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 07:43
medamaybeis there a shortkey to run the terminal?07:43
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WeirdAlcan someone explain to me what the line root (hd0,0) means in grub's boot script?07:44
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pomalinnobody ?07:44
X7Ceverybody07:44
pomalin:D07:44
pomalindoes somebody know why nvidia-glx is removed from my breezy, and replace by libdrm, and why I don't have direct rendering ?07:44
X7C:S07:45
X7Ci dunno07:45
X7C:(07:45
pomalinok07:45
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pomalinsomeone under breezy here ?07:45
slask3nAnyone knows why my microphone wont work? I've already fixed the settings in alsamixer..07:46
camiloi was wondering if anybody could help me get the gnome menus under enlightenment, or use gnome and enlightenment at once, or something of that kind07:47
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KING^^^nobody can't help me ?07:48
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jchicohello, is it normal for apt-get not to install the dependecies?! it's driving me nuts on how it's telling me that I can't install it... I thought that was its job07:48
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znhjchico, what are you trying to installate?07:49
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WeirdAlCan anyone tell me where I can get a copy of the kernel from?07:50
darkheartKING^^^ Did you install the linux headers for your kernel?07:50
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darkheartWeirdAl What do you mean a copy?07:50
thrice`has breezy updated ATI drivers ?07:51
znhWeirdAl, the kernel source you mean?07:51
KING^^^darkheart: i can't untar linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz207:51
medamaybedoes anyone know if there is a keyboard shortcut to open the terminal?07:51
znhKING^^^, try tar -xvjpf07:51
thrice`KING^^^, tar xvjf linux-07:51
WeirdAlznh: no, the built kernel.07:51
jchicolike a library, for gstreamer or xmms, it won't let me install it07:51
WeirdAlI think my copy is corrupt because it won't boot.07:51
znhjchico, try running apt-setup again07:51
KING^^^linux-source-2.6.10/Documentation/networking/ifenslave.c07:51
KING^^^tar: linux-source-2.6.10/Documentation/networking/ifenslave.c: Cannot open: No such file or directory07:51
thrice`jchico, are you using sudo ?07:52
jchicoyeah07:52
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darkheartjchico Have you added the correct repositories?07:52
jchicodo I need the CD-ROM for the setup to continue?07:52
jchicoI've added a few, but i'm not sure how many I exactly need07:52
zblachany ideas why i can't detect my wireless network?07:52
djinn_arthasalguien sabe como confirar el video en ubuntu07:52
znhjchico, no.. it's better to download everything from the internet if it's fast enough07:52
darkheart!es07:52
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:52
WeirdAldarkheart: I mean a copy of the file /boot/vmlinuz-etc so I can overwrite my own copy, which appears to be corrupt because it panics at bootup07:53
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darkheartWeirdAl Well, you might just tryin uninstall your kernel-image and then reinstalling it.07:53
znhWeirdAl, double check your /etc/fstab :-)07:53
jchicoumm let me run the setup and see what happens znh07:54
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znhjchico, it will ask you for the cdrom.. just hit enter..  :)07:54
darkheartWeirdAl It might help to know what the panic is also07:54
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darkheartznh Did you figure out your keyboard layout problem?07:55
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slask3nAnyone knows why my microphone wont work? I've already fixed the settings in alsamixer, without luck.07:55
znhdarkheart, no not really, must be mising package or something - but it's not really needed :-)07:55
WeirdAlznh: what am I looking for in fstab?07:55
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WeirdAlI can't do anything from within Ubuntu because it won't boot.07:55
znhWeirdAl, be sure that everything is okay07:55
darkheartznh Okay =) I don't know anything about it, but is there a dutch channel for Ubuntu?07:55
WeirdAlSo I'm using DSL07:55
znhdarkheart, yea there is07:55
znhWeirdAl, you can mount your linux partition from DSL07:55
WeirdAlYeah I have07:56
jchicoznh, ah seems to be working now, anymore repositories that I should have besides the two that the documenation had?07:56
znhWeirdAl, then what's the **** prob :P07:56
WeirdAlThe prob is I don't know what I'm looking for in fstab07:56
znhjchico, I don't recommend you07:56
medamaybecan someone explain to me the  syntax of the sudoers file? I'm talking about this line "root    ALL=(ALL) ALL"07:56
znhWeirdAl, can you put it on pastebin or somethin07:56
darkheartWeirdAl Paste your fstab somewhere07:56
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znhdarkheart, :P07:56
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WeirdAlWell it'll take me a while.07:57
WeirdAlHang on07:57
darkheartznh Haha..I can't believe I asked if there was Dutch ubuntu channel..pastebin is hosted on the Dutch mirror isn't it?07:57
Seveasmedamaybe, the syntax uf sudo is incomprehensible07:57
znhdarkheart, yea the domain is from the netherlands07:57
Seveasread the manpage for sudoers and start crying :)07:57
iotc247Is there a way to get the places menu nautilus links to use --browser ?07:57
znhiotc247, right mouse button, and then you can configure it too use any browser07:57
medamayberight...07:57
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slask3nmedamaybe: have you read manpages for sudoers?07:58
iotc247When I right click lets say Computer under places it just opens it up.. It wont let me change the command to use --browser07:58
slask3nmedamaybe:07:58
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medamaybeyes, I have, but I don't get it07:59
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Seveasmedamaybe, neither did I, and I must have read it 5 times :)08:00
SeveasI gave up trying to understand08:00
WeirdAlznh, darkheart: http://pastebin.com/34608108:00
medamaybehmm..question...are you serious?08:00
Seveasmedamaybe, unfortunately yes08:00
medamaybe:(08:00
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Seveasbut it was a few years ago in my new-to-sudo years08:01
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slask3nmedamaybe: what are you going to do? I just copied the line "root ALL=(ALL) ALL" and changed the "root" to te username  and than it works08:01
medamaybethe man page of sudoers is HUGE08:01
Seveasmaybe my brain grew back since then08:01
darkheartWeirdAl Your fstab looks alright to me.08:01
medamaybeslask3n, I know, that's what I did and it works now,  I just wanted to understan what I was doing, that's all08:01
WeirdAlOK then08:01
iotc247Znh any ideas?08:01
WeirdAlI'll reboot and tell you what the panic is08:01
darkheartWeirdAl Okay08:01
LeverAre there any good apps for formatting drives? with GUI...08:01
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darkheartLever I think qtparted might do that.08:02
darkheart!qtparted08:02
WeirdAlI know there's nothing wrong with /dev/hda1 because I can browse it.08:02
ubotudarkheart: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:02
goldfishcfdisk tbh.08:02
Thorondorhow can i add own programs to the "applications" menu in gnome?08:02
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slask3nmedamaybe: I don't know really, I wondered a little too. But I've never looked into it for real08:02
goldfishwho needs that gui malarky :)08:02
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iotc247@Thorondor try using smeg (Install by using sudo aptitude install smeg) It should allow you to do it.08:03
LeverDon't wanna read any man pages ;)08:03
Thorondorok08:03
WeirdAldarkheart: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)08:03
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Duvellol @ Lever08:03
znhWeirdAl, openneing08:03
goldfishWeirdAl: did you build your own kernel?08:04
WeirdAlhell no08:04
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WeirdAl:)08:04
goldfishhmm.08:04
WeirdAlLast time I used it I think I got a kernel update08:04
phantom_Hi, entered a DVD in Xine and got: I get the following error: The source can"t be read.  Maybe you08:04
phantom_ don"t have enough rights for this, or source doesn"t contain data (e.g:08:04
phantom_ not disk in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)08:04
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WeirdAlWhich is why I've been looking for a copy of the kernel, in case my update screwed up.08:04
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goldfishFrom my experience that error meant there wasnt enough support for the hdd in the kernel.08:04
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iotc247How can I edit the places menu so that the nautilus links use --browser?08:05
znhWeirdAl, you are using dualboot?08:05
WeirdAlznh: no08:05
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DuvelWeirdAl, did you update the right version of kernel for your cpu?08:05
Seveasiotc247, make nautilus use browser mode by default08:05
znhiotc247, we've heard the question, can you question it in more detail please?08:05
Sangokuwhat's the game most played in ubuntu community ?08:05
WeirdAlI just let it update. I figured dpkg was smart enough to update to the right thing.08:05
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iotc247The computer link under places doesnt use --browser08:06
iotc247I want it to.08:06
darkheartWeirdAl Is there a recovery mode option to boot your kernel?08:06
LeverHmm qtparted just formatted an 80gb drive in 1sec?.. neat08:06
WeirdAldarkheart: yes, same problem there.08:06
WeirdAlThere was another line, though. I'll get it.08:07
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darkheartWeirdAl Hmm..odd. I had the same error as well when I tried to boot a custom kernel.08:07
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chrismycould anyone help me on php4? why won't it work?08:07
Seveaschrismy, what's the prob?08:07
WeirdAlhere we are08:08
WeirdAlTwo lines:08:08
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WeirdAlVFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem) readonly.08:08
WeirdAlVFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block (0,0)08:08
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chrismyhi Seveas http://clch.zapto.org that is my apache2 server. but why php4 is not working?08:08
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lJloleli want to run a blog on my server easily ------ sooo i installed zope-coreblog and ran makezope2.7instance but.. yea how do i start blogging?08:09
chicken-manHi every one08:09
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darkheartchrismy It looks like you need to edit your apache config08:09
Seveaschrismy, install libapache2-mod-php408:09
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chrismydarkheart, hmm how?08:09
chrismyok08:09
slask3nAnyone knows how to make my microphone work? I've already fixed the settings in alsamixer..08:09
Seveaschrismy, sudo a2enmod php408:09
Seveas(the installer does that..)(08:10
chrismywhat is a2anmod?08:10
WeirdAldarkheart: You see why I want to get a copy of the kernel? It's behaving like a bad copy.08:10
Leverapache 2 enable module08:10
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Seveasa2enmod is for enabling apache modules08:10
WeirdAlIf I can find the kernel that I'm supposed to have updated to, or the kernel that I had before I updated, then I can overwrite and see if that fixes it.08:10
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WeirdAl... right?08:11
slask3nSeveas: how do you disable apache mods then?08:11
Levera2dismod08:11
Seveasa2dismod08:11
slask3n:)08:11
Seveasthere's a2ensite and a2dissite too08:11
darkheartWeirdAl Yeah, I see what you mean. I'm not sure what the answer to your question is =\08:11
lJlolelenable site?08:11
Seveaswhich of course only work if you use the debian/ubuntu way of configuring the server (which you should!)08:12
camilocan anyone help with using enlightenment in ubuntu?08:12
WeirdAlIs the kernel specific to Ubuntu or can I get it from the Linux kernel archives?08:12
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SeveasWeirdAl, you'd better start from ubuntu sources if you want to customize08:12
WeirdAlI don't want to customize08:12
Seveasand use the ubuntu build system08:12
WeirdAlI want to roll back a kernel update08:13
slask3nSeveas: You seems to know a lot :p Do you know what can make my mic not working?08:13
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chrismySeveas, it is still not working08:13
SeveasWeirdAl, why's that?08:13
WeirdAlI can't use the Ubuntu anything until I get a new kernel08:13
Seveaschrismy, restart apache08:13
snpzhi dudes08:13
uthiniguys, small problemo08:13
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chrismySeveas, i did08:13
darkheartchrismy It is working08:13
snpzi have one interesting question08:13
uthiniSeveas, wats the fstab abrievation for a straight linux partition?08:13
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chrismydarkheart, it is already?08:13
snpzis it possible to connect Ubuntu desktop in Windows based domain?08:14
darkheartchrismy Your test page works.08:14
Seveaschrismy, yup it works08:14
WeirdAlSeveas: I've been having kernel panics ever since I updated my kernel the other day, and I can't boot08:14
Seveassnpz, yes08:14
Seveaswith freenx08:14
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chrismyAHHHHHH.....hmm it doesn't work locally! how come?08:14
WeirdAlI'm trying to find the kernel as it was before I updated.08:14
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Seveaschrismy, close your browser :)08:14
snpzSeveas, how?08:14
Seveasprobably it cached the page08:14
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chrismySeveas, jeez08:15
uthini!fstab08:15
ubotuuthini: Not a clue08:15
snpzmight be there is some kind of manual?08:15
uthinicome now you bout you08:15
Seveassnpz add 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ /' as repository08:15
drewfusmaximusis there any way i can access data on a windows formatted drive?08:15
chrismythanks Seveas !08:15
iotc247Thanks Seveas for telling me what to search for.. I got it to work..08:15
Seveasand install the freenx package08:15
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snpzthen08:15
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uthini!partitions08:15
ubotuuthini: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:15
knowledge_an dennnn08:15
uthini!mount08:15
knowledge_?08:15
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives08:15
chrismySeveas, but what is a2enmod php4????08:15
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Seveasthen come back and i'll guide you further, it's easy :)08:15
uthiniguys pls08:15
iiiears!ntfs08:16
uthinipls08:16
ubotuntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.08:16
drewfusmaximuswhat do you mean see !windowsdrives08:16
drewfusmaximusis that a command?08:16
Seveaschrismy, with a2dismod/a2enmod you can enable/disable modules08:16
Lever!windowsdrives08:16
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically08:16
uthiniwots the linux fs name used in fstab?08:16
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chrismySeveas, hmm but why it does not work with apache?08:16
drewfusmaximusthanks08:16
darkheartuthini It depends on what fs you chose to use.08:16
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Leverext2/3?08:16
Seveasit's apache-2 specific08:16
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uthinidarkheart, linux, fs no 83 in the list08:16
iiiearsroll up your pants leg that was a flood....08:16
uthininot 85 which is ext308:17
Seveasiiiears, ?08:17
darkheartuthini That's either ext2 or ext3, can't remember.08:17
WeirdAlSeveas: so is there anywhere I can download the old kernel, put it on CD and copy it across to my dead PC?08:17
snpzSeveas, ok - i added this repository08:17
iiiearsgot the answer to mounting a windows drive three different  times08:17
Seveassnpz, apt-get update && apt-get install freenx08:17
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uthinidarkheart, thx08:17
chrismywow as if this channel people know so much than the other specific channels.....weird08:17
w1nghi08:17
emileubuntulinux.nl looks like there's an active dutch community08:17
Seveasemile, de NL community is inderdaad redelijk actief08:18
slask3nDoesn't anyone know how to make a microphone work in Ubuntu?? I really thought it should just be plug-and-play like the ouput-device but it doesn't work...08:18
w1ngi have a little prob with my linux08:18
uthinidarkheart, thx08:18
darkheartuthini I guess it's ext2 then. Np.08:18
Seveas!nl08:18
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.08:18
uthiniits ext208:18
iiiearsUbuntu "Humanity towards others"08:18
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uthinidarkheart, may i pvt?08:19
drewfusmaximusim sure this is a stupid question but where should i save that file for windows mounting08:19
uthinii need to mount 2 seperate partitions on 1 drive08:19
chrismySeveas, i did sudo a2dismod apche-2 and sudo a2dismod apche-2 it says 'does not exist' why is that so?08:19
darkheartuthini If it's a question, best to ask here in case someone else has some idea.08:19
iiiearsdrew anywhere you like would be fine. - you can run it with suydo08:19
w1ngI installed ubuntu on an 400MHz PII with a network card built i08:19
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chrismySeveas, oops should be a2enmod08:20
drewfusmaximusit will automatically find it?08:20
Derkommissarwhy does apt-get keep saying this08:20
DerkommissarThe following packages have been kept back:08:20
Derkommissar  gstreamer0.8-swfdec mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support08:20
w1ngUbuntu runs, but can't establish a connection  with the internet08:20
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uthinidarkheart, how do i mount the 1st partition? i took my 80 gb drive and split it into 2 partitions08:20
uthinithinking it would make like easier08:20
w1ngit is able to ping other sites08:20
uthinii was wrong08:20
Seveasderek, because you enabled backports...08:20
w1ngbut i can't access the sites with a browser08:20
darkheartuthini What's the name of the device? /dev/what?08:20
mypapitanybody has ubuntu universe list for me to include in my /etc/apt/source.list08:21
chrismySeveas, ??08:21
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Seveas!source08:21
ubotuSeveas: No idea08:21
Seveas!sources08:21
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:21
Seveas^-- mypapit08:21
mypapitSeveas, yup08:21
Seveaschrismy, a2enmod takes a module name as argument08:21
uthinidarkheart, the device is /dev/hdb1, if i try to mount /dev/hdb1 it doesn't load both partitions (obviously)08:22
jchicoi seem to be having problems with my soundcard (SBAuidy 2), it detects it... but I can't hear anything! :(08:22
Seveasmypapit read that pastebin url08:22
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Seveas!audigy08:22
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.08:22
drewfusmaximusits mounted but is read only, i gues ntfs is always read only?08:22
darkheartuthini Right, so you have to mount the other partition like /dev/hdb5 or whatever.08:22
drewfusmaximusso i should copy everything and reformat?08:22
w1ngis there a logfile which shows errors on accessing the internet?08:22
mypapitSeveas, thanks08:22
w1ngi am a linux n00b08:22
jchicooh wow, why does Ubuntu do that?!08:22
Want3dhow long before the final release of the 'Breezy' version?08:22
WeirdAlIs it even possible to get an old kernel?08:23
ompaul!breezy08:23
ubotubreezy is probably the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/08:23
Seveasdrewfusmaximus, write support for ntfs is non-existent08:23
Seveasjchico, it's an error in the alsa rules, fixed in breezy08:23
Seveas( i thought)08:23
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ompaulWeirdAl, you can get Warty and install that08:23
SeveasWeirdAl, I don't think you can go back a kernel version08:23
WeirdAlI'd rather avoid having to get an entire copy of Ubuntu.08:23
Seveasbecause it's overwritten on the server too08:24
iiiearsA lot of near successes at writing to ntfs. - none that most would rely on.08:24
WeirdAlI might as well just wait until I go home and reinstall it.08:24
bhappyhi all08:24
uthinidarkheart, i'm nt making much progress, i can only see dev hdb108:24
WeirdAlSeveas: There's no archive?08:24
chrismySeveas, 'a2enmod takes a module name as argument' in English would be?08:24
jchicoso do I have to restart or something?08:24
Want3dwow a gui installer :X08:25
WeirdAlSeveas: is the kernel specific to Ubuntu?08:25
SeveasWeirdAl, yes...08:25
WeirdAl:/08:25
bhappyi'm trying to install ubuntu using FromWindows wiki page, the cd approach part08:25
Seveaschrismy, it means that you use 'a2enmod some_apache_module' and not 'a2enmod apache2'08:25
chrismyahh thanks08:25
w1ngcan someone in here help me with the f*cking intenet?08:25
ryguyhey seveas, sorry to interrupt, i just got back from doing some errands but i was wondering... does it matter whether i get win98 (then i have the option of OEM or custom) or win98 SE (OEM or custom)08:26
lsuactiafnerbreezy will have gcc 4?08:26
bhappystuck on the can't find cdrom message :(08:26
chrismyw1ng, pretty hot there lol08:26
WeirdAlSeveas: can I download (through http) the *current* kernel?08:26
darkheartuthini Hmmm..Not too sure, but try 'sudo fdisk /dev/hdb' then hit 'p' in the menu to print the partitions.08:26
ompaulw1ng, not really, what do you mean that you are having problems accessing the internet08:26
iiiears98se has better support for usb and network sharing08:26
Seveasryguy, no it does not matter08:26
w1ngompaul: i am able to ping other sites but i cannot access them via browser08:27
uthinidarkheart, my partitions are hdb1p1 & hdb1p5, but the system wont let me mount those08:27
Seveasiiiears, he just wants his mbr back ;)08:27
uthinises they don't exist08:27
iiiearsah okay08:27
wulfy814ok - so I am about to replace my first windows xp box with ubuntu08:27
chrismySeveas, so how do find this module names?08:27
lsuactiafnerqemu or something allows to write to ntfs, might be wrong tho08:27
w1ngand other ppl cannot access my server via ssh08:27
wulfy814how do I handle users on the network08:27
wulfy814they will be sharing files from a samba server08:27
w1ngbut this may be another problem08:27
darkheartuthini Can you paste the output of the fdisk print command somewhere?08:27
drewfusmaximusi just installed ubuntu last night and have had a lot of trouble, but thanks to everyone on this channel ive solved almost everything, thanks everybody08:27
wulfy814mix of windoze and ubuntu stations08:27
Seveaschrismy, php already works so you don't need to08:27
Seveas:)08:27
ompaulw1ng, which browser08:27
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wulfy814do I try and make sure that each user has the same uid, gid?08:27
w1ngdoesn't matter08:27
wulfy814on each box, or doesn't it matter?08:27
w1ngit also cannot synchronize the time08:28
Seveaswulfy814, use nis :)08:28
w1ngwhen it starts up08:28
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w1ngno access at all, except with ping08:28
ompaulw1ng, stick to one problem at a time or I will call you a troll08:28
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chrismySeveas, erm not that i meant. but like apache2 is apache-2. how about the rest? example : module45 is module-45 ? right?08:28
Seveaschrismy, no08:28
ompaulw1ng, which browser was it08:28
Seveasphp4 is php408:28
w1ngompaul, it was firefox08:29
medamaybedoes anyone know of a good php editor that runs on ubuntu?08:29
DeterministSeveas, is there any tool that will allow me to remap the available resolutions and refresh rates available for me?08:29
Seveasw1ng: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.08:29
ompaulw1ng, and which site did you not access?08:29
darkheartmedamaybe vi =)08:29
wulfy814Seveas: like "apt-get install ypserv"08:29
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SeveasDeterminist, dpkg-reconfigure xseerver-xorg08:29
medamaybelol08:29
darkheart!tell medamaybe about nvu08:29
Seveaswulfy814, apt-get install nis08:29
chrismySeveas, yes i know. but then you said apache2 is apache-2 as module?08:29
w1ngompaul, the internet doesn't seem to work at all08:29
adjacenti seem to be having major problems with my sound card. enough to cause the machine to hang just after loading gdm (i think). im using the emu10k alsa driver and have alot of unhandled interrupt warnings in kern.log just before the machine hangs08:29
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Seveaschrismy, I never said that..08:29
w1ngneither http, nor anything else08:30
wulfy814Seveas: I'm running ClarkConnect (based on CentOS) as a server08:30
NoUsethere is somethign quite funny about saying the internet doesn't work while on IRC08:30
adjacenti cant find any docs regarding this, is it a known problem?08:30
medamaybethanks08:30
Seveaschrismy, ah, I see where this went wrong08:30
w1ngompaul, i am looking for a logfile or something08:30
wulfy814Seveas: so I should install NIS server on it?08:30
SeveasI misunderstuud your question08:30
lJlolelhow can i put a blog on my server?08:30
ompaulw1ng, none that I know08:30
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w1nghmm08:30
Seveasso my answer (with apache-2 in it) does not make sense :)(08:30
chrismySeveas, hehe you did08:30
NoUsew1ng is dns working?08:30
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lJloleli can code a blog myself, but that would take a while, is there something like phpbb for blogs?08:31
w1ngNoUse, how do I check that?08:31
DeterministSeveas, i've just installed the nvidia drivers, any way this will not screw it all up? :)08:31
ompaulw1ng, do host www.iol.ie and see what comes back for a start08:31
chrismySeveas, so lets say in future, how do i varify their 'names' to enable or disable them?08:31
Seveaswulfy814, yes08:31
zenlunaticanyone use a mp3 player in ubuntu? im thinking of getting one but i want to make sure they work in ubuntu08:31
w1ngompaul, with firefox?08:31
Seveaschrismy, /etc/apache2/mods.availabe08:31
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ompaulw1ng, no in a terminal08:31
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SeveaslJlolel, wordpress08:31
quittezenlunatic: i use xmms08:31
iotc247I take it in order to play mp3's and dvd's and such in Breezy I need to use the backports. I also take it that I use the hoary backports. Are they down as they are just ignored while updating the sources. If they are is there another place that I can get what I need to play dvd's and mp3's?08:31
emilezenlunatic, i use xmms08:32
lJlolelSeveas, i just apt-got it, but nothing is in v/ar/www/08:32
zenlunaticquitte: emile i mean hardware mp3 player, like ipod08:32
chrismySeveas, erm i see a list of files...what should i do?08:32
SeveaslJlolel, put the output of dpkg -L wordpress  on a pastebin08:32
Seveaschrismy, eash of these files is a module :)08:32
lJlolelwhats a pastebin?08:32
Seveas!pastebin08:32
w1ngone moment08:32
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:32
Seveas^-- lJlolel08:32
emilezenlunatic, sorry haven't got hardware mp3 player08:32
chrismySeveas, :O cool!08:32
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w1nghave to log in via ssh to copy and paste it08:33
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Seveaschrismy, for instance you have php4.conf and php4.load08:33
Seveasthat means there is a module named php408:33
dawkirstHi.08:33
dawkirstAnyone from Holland here?08:33
Lever!nl08:33
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.08:33
ompaulw1ng, if you can log in via ssh then the 'internet' must be working - or you have some firewall rules in the way08:33
chrismySeveas, ahh ok but then how you know apache2 should be apache-2?08:33
WeirdAlAnyone? All I want is to download the kernel through http :/08:34
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w1ngompaul, I am logging in via LAN. Logging in over WAN doen't work eather08:34
w1ngeither08:34
darkheartWeirdAl The problem is that the repos only supply the package =\ so you'd have to install it if you got it from the servers.08:34
phlaegelanybody else notice that nautilus on breezy sorts uppercase before lowercase now?08:34
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Seveaschrismy, discard that apache-2 answer, it made no sense as answer to your question08:34
chrismySeveas, files in  /etc/apache2/mods-available do not have 'apache' on them08:34
iiiearsweirdal,   list/search herehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/08:35
WeirdAliiiears: I did.08:35
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ompaulw1ng, so do this also tracepath www.iol.ie and show is the results in pastebin.ubuntu.nl08:35
Seveaspastebin.ubuntulinux.nl08:35
WeirdAlI searched "kernel" but I found loads of packages and I don't know which one I want08:35
ompaulw1ng, sorry what Seveas sayd08:35
Seveas(ubuntu.nl is hijacked by a crappy hosting provider)08:35
ompaulw1ng, sorry what Seveas said even08:35
chrismySeveas, well that php has solved and easy to understand. but i would like to know about apache and others too08:35
iiiearsapt-get -d -linux-kernel-    ?08:36
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WeirdAlI can't apt-get because I can't boot!08:36
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iiiearsouch! :s08:36
WeirdAlI need the kernel because I think I have a corrupt one08:36
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WeirdAlAnd all I want to do is get it again and copy it over the top to see if that's the case.08:37
iotc247Hmm.. Maybe you could use a livecd to boot in and chroot and install it?08:37
WeirdAlWell I can boot into DSL08:37
lJlolelSeveas, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/161708:37
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WeirdAlBut then I don't have internet08:37
iiiearsboot a live cd and mount the partitions to save the files you need or email them to yourself?08:37
iotc247Why wouldn't you have internet WierdAl?08:37
WeirdAlWell when I get home I can just install Ubuntu over again.08:37
lJlolelSeveas, i tried by moving evertyhing in /etc/wordpress/ to /var/ww/08:37
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w1ngompaul done08:37
iiiearsuse the default kernel "386" to boot?08:38
WeirdAlI won't have internet because I have a wireless card that I had to install using a Wiki tutorial08:38
WeirdAlI only have one kernel08:38
hendrahi08:38
iotc247Oh ok.08:38
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WeirdAlit's vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-38608:38
hendrahiiii....08:38
Ignignoktwhat is the command to make a directroy in the terminal?08:38
iotc247Hmm then you could do this. Do you have a usb drive or a cdrw?08:38
SeveaslJlolel, move that back please08:38
NoUseIgnignokt mkdir08:38
WeirdAlAnd it won't mount my root08:38
Ignignoktthanks08:38
iotc247Oh.08:38
lJlolelSeveas, done08:38
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SeveaslJlolel, and ln -s /usr/share/wordpress /var/www/wordpress08:39
adjacenti cannot get sound to work properly. when i try to run esd i just get spammed by PCI errors and unhandled interrupts from emu10k108:39
SeveaslJlolel, and read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/wordpress08:39
medamaybeomg...VI is impossible to use!08:39
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adjacentim stumped as to how to fix this. any suggestions?08:39
lJlolelSeveas, oooh, isee, thanks!08:39
darkheartmedamaybe vi is the best =)08:39
adjacentmedamaybe: try running vimtutor08:40
medamaybelol08:40
medamaybek08:40
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phlaegelmedamaybe: you have to make friends with it...08:40
quittemedamaybe: vimtutor is a nice program.08:40
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medamaybealright, I'll take a look at vimtutor08:40
dalamaror use nano and make things easier ;)08:40
darkheartmedamaybe Btw, if you want to use vi, you should get vim. More functionality.08:40
adjacent:s/easier/slower/g08:40
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medamaybeyeah, I got vim08:40
phlaegelor cream... it's a pretty friendly vim (gui only)08:40
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iiiearsmedamaybe - psst - often gksudo gedit will let you do what you need08:41
ITguyvi is much easier than nano08:41
lJlolelwhat percentage of servers have vim?08:41
darkheartdalamar nano sucks in some cases..like when you are remoted into something and pushing ctrl+button doesn't get you the desired effect.08:41
ITguyBut not until you learn it's power08:41
lJlolelITguy, nano is definetely easier to use, though vi's mroe pwoeful08:41
medamaybegedit is alright I guess, but I have my mind set on vim now :)08:41
lJlolelmore powerful08:41
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medamaybelet's see if I can be friends with vim08:41
dalamari wouldnt know , it edit text files without the : crap thats all I need08:41
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NoUseand if you have 6-8 spare thumbs, you can use Emacs08:41
adjacenthaha08:42
ITguyvi is easier for editing configuration files08:42
iiiearslol - pain is bad.  - vim is painful ergo vim is bad. ... ;)08:42
ITguynano is easier for newbies08:42
ITguyd20d08:42
lJloleliiiears, vim is plainful ergonomics?08:42
ITguyThats all I have to type in vi to delete 20 lines below the cursor08:42
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Seveasguys, let's not do editor warfare in here...08:43
ITguyCan you do that in 4 keystrokes in nano? Didn't think so08:43
dalamarwhich makes no sense08:43
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ITguySo which one is easier?08:43
ITguyintuitive != easy08:43
SeveasITguy, nano is easier to learn08:43
iiiearsSeveas - you are right as usual. - pardon me.08:43
Seveasvim is more powerful08:43
Seveasand so each has its advantage08:43
dalamarits not obvious, I dont want to learn a new language to edit a file ;)08:43
haakonnand if you want something even more powerful, try emacs ;)08:43
Seveasdalamar, haakonn stop the editor war...08:44
haakonnsowwy08:44
bhappythe best tool is that you are used to08:44
dalamarsimple opinion no war08:44
ITguy<troll> I think notepad is the best </troll>08:44
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kevmanHAHA.08:44
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medamaybewho on earth would one use jkl and v  to change the cursor...that's what the cursor keys are for...:/ lol08:44
Seveas /kick ITguy08:44
Seveas:p08:44
iiiearslol08:45
Seveasmedamaybe, stop it.08:45
darkheartHehe Seveas swung his foot but missed ITguy08:45
ITguyok, no more editor wars08:45
Seveasdarkheart, intentionally of course :)08:45
NoUsemedamaybe try to use a terminal without arrow keys08:45
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darkheartSeveas Of course =)08:45
medamaybeNoUse, why?08:45
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SeveasNoUse, medamaybe...08:46
lJlolelSeveas, thanks a lot!! wordpress rocks08:46
medamaybeSeveas, ?08:46
SeveaslJlolel, have fun with it :)08:46
medamaybek...sorry08:47
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WeirdAlBah08:48
WeirdAlI give up08:48
WeirdAlI'm going08:48
WeirdAlThanks anyway :/08:48
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Seveas'navond _SWAT_08:49
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KG2056hello everyone08:49
snpzis there any repository, where i can download games?08:49
KG2056anyone know what the listy of servers is for apt-get so i can get other applications? icewm, blackbox and fluxbox arent in the current list :(08:50
lJlolelhow do i compile quake3 source ;-)?08:50
snpzas quake08:50
lJlolelKG2056, icewm is in my apt (from ubuntuguide)08:51
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KG2056hmm, ok lemme take a look at it08:51
liquidfire_Anybody got the Lexmark x2230 working under Linux?08:51
lJlolelas is fluxbox (ubuntuguide.org)08:51
Seveasubuntuguide is evil08:52
Seveas!ubuntuguide08:52
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned08:52
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darkheartSeveas Some of the 'guides' in the wiki aren't very explanatory either.08:52
lJlolelSeveas, i found it pretty useful, though i agree that i dont understand what i did unless i was already familiar with it08:52
ITguylJlolel: Correct me if I'm wrong someone else, but the Quake III source code was released. This doesn't mean the artwork and sounds are released too08:53
ITguyI dont think they are08:53
dalamarsome of it is just plain wrong too08:53
Seveasdarkheart, but the wiki is easy to improve, the editor of ubuntuguide does not cooperate..08:53
lJlolelITguy, oh08:53
puffHello.08:53
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dalamarthey need to change the gxmms section of the wiki for sure08:54
liquidfire_yeah08:54
darkheartSeveas That's true enough.08:54
liquidfire_you need to use custom sounds08:54
lJloleleitherway, i'm glad breezy will have a good FAQ08:54
ITguySeveas: I'm taking it you've contacted the ubuguide admin?08:54
liquidfire_and models08:54
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SeveasITguy, we've talked08:54
liquidfire_!ntfs08:54
Seveasand he does not want to cooperate and called me a whiner after I complained about some things (including possible fixes)08:54
h08817any1 in here have a gmail account? mine isn't working for some reason08:54
liquidfire_!mount08:55
ubotumount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives08:55
liquidfire_!windowdrives08:55
ubotuWish i knew, liquidfire_08:55
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Seveaslol08:55
liquidfire_!windowsdrives08:55
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically08:55
puffSeveas: Thanks.08:55
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liquidfire_!windowdrivesmenuts08:55
ubotuliquidfire_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:55
puffSeveas: At least I assume that's you.08:55
liquidfire_:p08:55
ITguyOT: Why is ubuntu making a "Ubuntu Engineer Certification"08:55
kevman?08:55
kevman!mount08:55
ubotu[mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives08:55
puffITguy: I would assume to make the PHB's happy.08:55
kevmanCooool.08:55
ITguyOT: Why is ubuntu making a "Ubuntu Engineer Certification"08:55
ITguyWouldn't a generic Debian Cert be alot more useful?08:55
SeveasITguy, no, Ubuntu isn't Debian08:56
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puffITguy: If the ubuntu guys controlled the Debian project, maybe they'd consider making a generic debian certification. As it is...08:56
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h08817any1 having trouble with gmail08:56
raycan somebody help me with amixer and alsamixer?08:56
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milestonei have upgraded to breezy yesterday08:56
lJlolelh08817, not here08:56
milestoneand since then i am not able to type curly braces anywhere inside gnome08:57
h08817lJlolel: what is the url again i forget08:57
ITguySeveas: I realize that Ubuntu is a debian fork, but wouldn't a debian cert have more credibility?08:57
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milestonehad hoary before08:57
lJlolelh08817, for gmail?08:57
milestoneconfig is the same08:57
h08817lJlolel: ya i forget08:57
milestonei am lost08:57
lJlolelh08817, gmail.com?08:57
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h08817lJlolel: i haven't checked my mail in like forever08:57
ITguyThe ubuntu console config is mostly the same08:57
bonvenoncan anyone help me with my epson perfection scanner? it's supposed to have "complete" support by sane, but I have som problems...08:57
h08817lJlolel: thats what i thought08:57
Want3don verion Hoary, what version of Gnome comes with it?08:57
h08817lJlolel: isn't working for me right now08:57
ITguyWant3d: 2.1008:58
n3t0some one run adesklets on ubuntu08:58
SeveasITguy, ubuntu is definitely NOT a fork of debian08:58
lJlolelmilestone, i've hard of a problem like that: gnome automatically creates shortcuts08:58
Want3danything for 2.11x in the repository for it?08:58
puffITguy: Maybe the ubuntu people are more focused on building ubuntu's credibility than on piggybacking on debian's credibility.08:58
lJlolelmilestone, so if you were in a meny and hit curly brace accidentally somehow, then that key becomes the shortcut for that menu08:58
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lJlolelrather than what it should be, or something like that08:58
SeveasWant3d, no, and it's not advised to try it too08:58
Hikaru79Is there available an Ubuntu DVD that contains many of the repositories right on the DVD, to help people on dial-up, like there is for Debian?08:58
ChadzaI just changed cursors with gcursor, does it take a X restart for that to go into effect?08:58
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ITguySeveas: I'm honestly not trolling... but if debain packages dont always work on ubuntu, how is that not a fork?08:58
puffSeveas: I must admit, I'm idly curious as to what the right answer to that question is.08:59
SeveasHikaru79, yes08:59
Hikaru79Seveas, really? :) Where at? I couldn't find it on ubuntulinux.org08:59
ITguyAlso, Ubuntu didnt join the DCC to unify debian based distros08:59
milestonelJlolel, what?08:59
SeveasHikaru79, you can find a dvd mirror on wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive08:59
bonvenon...it seems to be found by sane, but sometimes get an I/O error. and sometimes it seems not to respond at all. if I run Xsane as root it seems to be OK.08:59
Hikaru79They have a DVD there, but all it is is a combined livecd/install dvd.08:59
milestoneso you think i should check the shortcut configuration?08:59
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SeveasITguy, read mako's blog at mako.cc/copyrighteous08:59
n3t0nozey, aeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee08:59
Seveashe recently gave a few presentations about it08:59
Seveasand links to the slides from his blog08:59
nozeyn3t0, hi man =)08:59
h08817wow this is the quietest time this room has ever been that i have seen09:00
Hikaru79Thank you Seveas :)09:00
lJlolelSeveas, how is ubuntu  not a fork of debian?09:00
ITguySeveas: Thanks, I'll read that and then come back09:00
milestoneanyone here running breezy?09:00
plagerismI know Ubuntu doesnt officially support the multiverse?? But are bug reports on such packages appreciated anyways??09:00
bonvenoncan anyone help me?!09:00
SeveaslJlolel, read what i told ITguy :)09:00
Hikaru79Seveas, can one actually install Ubuntu from that DVD, or just use it as a repository entry in sources.list ?09:00
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Want3dmilestone, I am09:00
w1ng__i need a logfile which lists general network-errors09:00
SeveasHikaru79, both :)09:00
milestonei keep getting an error message from gdm whilst logging in something about wrong perms of $HOME/-dmrc but they are 64409:00
raycan somebody help me with amixer and alsamixer?09:00
makolJlolel: it is a fork09:01
Hikaru79Awesome. Thanks Seveas, I love you.09:01
ITguySeveas: $ ping mako.cc results in request timed out09:01
liquidfire_can somebody tell me the difference between kde/kdm etc and gnome09:01
Seveasthe dvd is an install cd a live cd and a complete main/restricted repository09:01
liquidfire_it maybe a stupid question09:01
milestoneWant3d, you have that error too?09:01
makoITguy: it works fine09:01
liquidfire_but i don't really understand09:01
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ITguysame with nmap -p 80 mako.cc09:01
w1ng__a09:01
makohttp://mako.cc/writing/to_fork_or_not_to_fork.html09:01
nozeycan someone help me with adesklets? i get a problem about the python include when i try to run the configure script =\09:01
w1ng__ompaul09:01
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makoITguy: dude, stop nmapping my machine09:01
w1ng__i posted the results09:01
makoITguy: or i *will* ban your IP09:01
ompaulw1ng, I had to eat :-) where did you post those results09:01
ITguymako: nmap -p 80 simply connects to port 80. It is NOT malicious09:02
makoITguy, lJlolel: the url above is what you are looking for09:02
h08817lag09:02
h08817what is nmap?09:02
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Want3dmilestone, sorry i missed it, what error?09:02
ITguymako: just the same as using a browser. I wanted to see if the port was open09:02
makoITguy: sorry.. i overlooked the -p 80, sorry :)09:02
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w1ng__postbin.ubuntulinux.nl09:02
makoITguy: i'm perfectly aware of what it does, i just misread. sorry for overreacting09:02
w1ng__(or something like that)09:02
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Seveaspaste.ubuntulinux.nl09:03
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ITguymako: Perfectly understandable09:03
Seveasmako, OMG @ sunglasses09:03
h08817!nmap09:03
ubotuh08817: Syntax error in line 109:03
makoSeveas: hot huh?09:03
h08817what is nmap?09:03
Seveasawesome :)09:03
milestonei keep getting an error message from gdm whilst logging in something about wrong perms of $HOME/-dmrc but they are 64409:03
makoh08817: something he could have used telnet for09:03
darkhearth08817 Tool for scanning ports.09:03
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ompaulw1ng, so you have a connection that gets to the internet09:03
h08817o09:03
Want3dmilestone, sorry, I dont have that error..09:03
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w1ng__indeed, ompaul09:04
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makoITguy: tell me if you can't access that, i can just fine09:04
Want3dmilestone, i have had no errors at all running Breezy, everything is smooth and seemlessly, kde and all :)09:04
lJlolelgot it09:04
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Ngmilestone: they should be 60009:04
zer0cant wait for breezy09:04
milestoneoh then you are using kdm09:04
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milestoneNg, i will try that09:04
ompaulw1ng, so you still got browser problems?09:04
liquidfire_Anyone :)?09:04
milestonethen although the error says 64409:04
ITguyworks fine. I go through 2 cisco pix firewalls, 1 ichain proxy, and 1 bordermanager proxy here at work09:04
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liquidfire_can somebody tell me the difference between kde/kdm etc and gnome:/?09:04
w1ng__yes09:04
ITguyIt was being stupid09:05
liquidfire_and fluxbox09:05
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liquidfire_and that stuff09:05
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Want3dmilestone, no i am using GDM09:05
w1ngbut not only browser problems09:05
kemikliquidfire:  it's different windowmanagers09:05
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ompaulw1ng_, so what does a browser say when you put www.iol.ie into it?09:05
w1ngConnecting to www.iol.ie09:05
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kvidellanyone here a certified pilot?09:05
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makoITguy: perhaps one of them is blocking ping09:06
w1ngand later it will be saying "Timed out"09:06
pomalinwhy nvidia-glx go out my breezy ?09:06
w1ngsame with ftp, ntp, ...09:06
makoSeveas: this place is a madhouse dude.. i don't know how you manage :)09:06
ITguymako: It works now for some reason09:06
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w1ngi wished i could check if this has something to do with my router09:07
w1ngbut my windows machine accesses the net without problems09:07
w1ngeven my Mac09:07
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Seveasmako, lots of coffee :)09:07
_frankw1ng: can you ping the router?09:07
\dev\goatomg! fglrx works! 4048fps glxgears09:07
w1ngsure09:07
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Seveasmako, like the rewrite of the CC agenda?09:07
Seveasmako, *do you* like the rewrite of the CC agenda?09:08
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Seveas(i manage by not typing some words :))09:08
w1ngi can ping everything09:08
w1ngeven sites on the net09:08
ITguymako: Good paper09:08
pomalindos somebody under breezy with a nvidia card do a dist-upgrade, and is nvidia-glx still there ?09:08
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ITguySeveas: Do you happen to know why Ubuntu chose NOT to join DCC? The DCC was formed to improve interoperability and I dont see why ubuntu wouldnt care about this?09:09
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adjacenti need help resolving a sound card issue that is causing my hoary install to hang just after loading gdm.09:09
adjacentits a SBLive! 5.1 soundcard using the alsa emu10k1 driver09:10
SeveasITguy, I have some ideas about why but it would be wrong to share these until they are confirmed09:10
Seveasotherwise it would be fud/gossip :)09:10
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ITguyCould you PM them? I'm not interested in spreading fud, I'm just personally curious09:10
liquidfire_can somebody tell me what kdm,gnome,fluxbox,xfce,etc mean I don't really understand anymore?09:10
adjacentin recovery mode i see errors in kern.log just before the hang09:10
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adjacentlocalhost kernel: emu10k1: unhandled interrupt: 0xe740000009:11
adjacentlocalhost kernel: interrupt: PCI error09:11
adjacentlocalhost kernel: Aieee - PCI error! status 0x60008008, PCI status 0x828009:11
pomalinsomone under breezy with a nvidia card here ?09:11
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liquidfire_pomalin,09:11
girdapppselam09:11
liquidfire_i am09:11
liquidfire_but i havent installed any driver yet09:11
liquidfire_getting compiling errors09:11
pomalinok liquidfire thanks09:11
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pomalinI was the nvidia-glx from synaptics before09:12
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liquidfire_yeah09:12
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liquidfire_but that causes alot of problems09:12
puffhttp://pastebin.com/34616909:12
liquidfire_for me09:12
liquidfire_pomalin, look on the forums09:12
liquidfire_there is a howto09:13
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puffSo, I'm a little unclear as to what he's saying here - does that mean I need to apt the separate package, or that it's in a separate package, but that package should be installed by default on an ubuntu install?09:13
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makoSeveas: yes :)09:13
makoSeveas: more information is always apprecaited09:13
makoSeveas: until it becomes too much and get put on other pages09:13
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Seveasindeed09:13
tristanmikegood afternoon all09:14
Seveasthat's why the page already links to a lot :)09:14
pomalinbut last day the dist upgrade remove the nvidia-glx, and install libdrm, and I have no more direct rendering, and when I want to reinstal the nvidia-glx, synaptics wants to remove a lot of things09:14
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liquidfire_pomalin, try to compile your own drivers then09:15
liquidfire_via the howto09:15
pomalinAnd the thing I want to know, is :I'm the only one with this issue ?09:15
liquidfire_oh09:15
liquidfire_dunno then09:15
pomalinyes I will try this liquidfire09:15
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rayyou guys are gonna shoot me09:18
darkheartquick shoot first, ask later09:18
liquidfire_lol09:19
kvidellray: Why? :-D09:19
kvidell(best intro ever)09:19
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liquidfire_what if someone came in you guys are going to bondage me and then shoot me09:19
liquidfire_:o09:19
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darkheartThen everyone would be happy if it was a girl and sad if it was a guy.09:20
liquidfire_;)09:20
liquidfire_but remember this Ah, the internet that place, where men are woman, woman are men, and little cute girls are FBI agents.: :p09:20
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liquidfire_so you never know darkheart  :)09:21
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darkheartHahaha.09:21
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iiiearsubotu games is FAQs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25723 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-Gamers-HOWTO/ http://icculus.org/lgfaq/ News http://www.linux-gamers.net/  (add a link? ubotu games is also mylink)09:22
ubotu...but games is already something else...09:22
zenlunatichow do you encode cds into vorbis files?09:22
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iiiears!games09:22
ubotuwell, games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.09:22
liquidfire_haha check this link a random joke using man sex :) http://internet.ls-la.net/man-pages/sex.html09:22
dalamarsound juicer will rip em to ogg09:22
zenlunaticdalamar: whats sound juicer?09:22
monkey89hey - for breezy, im trying to get nvidia working.  i have nvidia.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.12-7-686/volatile, modprobe nvidia doesn't work - where's the module supposed to be?  whats going on?09:23
dalamarprogram in gnome .. it will rip it to ogg, dont know if it will encode to ogg if the cd is already on your hdd09:23
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iiiearsubotu games is also News http://www.linux-gamers.net/09:23
ubotuokay, iiiears09:24
pauljhi guys, could someone give some advice on how to get opengl working with ATI notebok graphics?09:24
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Seveasliquidfire_, apt-get install funny-manpages asr-manpages09:24
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iiiearspaulj - i can't help with ati. maybe ubotu has something.09:25
iiiears!ati09:25
ubotuI guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:25
pauljthx for help09:26
pauljfound that howto09:26
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pirastping09:26
mneptokubotu: status09:27
iiiearsSeveas - How does Wordpress compare to XOOPS?09:27
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uthinilolol, i lost alot data in a format i didn't need (it didn't remedy the issue i thought it would)09:27
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Seveaswordpress vs xoops is no contest :)09:28
Seveaswordpress wins09:28
ITguywordpress wins09:28
ITguyha09:28
Seveas;)09:28
kvidell<3 wordpress09:28
iiiearsokay. - grin09:28
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uthiniSeveas, do you know how to recover info from a drive with messed up partions?09:28
Seveasuthini, no09:28
mneptoki think XOOPS won the bikini portion of the contest.09:28
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raven3x7hi09:28
uthinipeachy09:29
bateauhey! im trying to install java, i added the repository list and stuff. but it says it cant finde the package :x09:29
uthinidisck recovery here i come09:29
ITguyuthini: txt or binary data?09:29
kvidellDo you have any links to XOOPs blogs in active use?09:29
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kemikuthini:  possibly bu getting a recoverytool . but they're expensive09:29
raven3x7anyone know if it possible to have icons with nautilus in fluxbox?09:29
uthiniITguy, ?? how?09:29
ITguyuthini: I asked which, txt or binary?09:29
uthinioh binary09:29
ITguyuthini: Thats pretty ugly, what fs type?09:30
uthiniext209:30
mneptokget a pad, 3 pens, and an electron microscope....09:30
kemikmneptok:  MacGyver style? ;)09:30
ITguyuthini: http://www.sleuthkit.org/autopsy/desc.php is your best bet09:31
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mneptok*or09:31
eliphas_what about dotclear09:31
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uthinithx ITguy09:31
iiiearsHelix is also nice bootable knoppix based CD09:31
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ITguyuthini: I would suggest using dd to make an image of the partition with deleted data and play with that09:31
kemikdamn.. need a soft-tip pen :(09:32
mneptokis that a euphemism>09:32
mneptok?09:32
iiiearsdd is good but dd_rescue understands errors better09:32
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ITguyiiiears: he didn't mention drive errors I dont think so dd will work without installing extra software09:33
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hardw1re!nvidia09:34
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:34
hardw1rewhat happened to that configure tutorial? :|09:35
uthiniyeah speaking of, i can't install the nvidia drivers09:35
uthinistill..09:35
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EnsignRedshirtHello, world.09:35
ITguyrm -rf /bin/laden09:36
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bateauhey! im trying to install java, i added the repository list and stuff. but it says it cant finde the package. whats wrong?09:36
EnsignRedshirtIs it possible to prevent web sites from resizing the Firefox window?09:36
Seveasbateau, grab a deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl09:36
ITguyEnsignRedshirt: Turn off javascript09:36
slask3nDoesn't anyone know how to make a microphone work in Ubuntu?? I really thought it should just be plug-and-play like the ouput-device but it doesn't work...09:37
hardw1reITguy: very funny ;)09:37
zblachanyone know how to access an existing wireless network?09:37
iiiearsSeveas - (Do you need a fan club?) - lol09:37
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hardw1reslask3n: yes i have my mic working on TS on ubuntu09:37
iiiearsnice09:37
hardw1reslask3n: have you configured the alsamixer?09:37
EnsignRedshirtITguy: Is is necessarily javascript that resizes the window?09:37
SeveasEnsignRedshirt, yes09:38
ITguyEnsignRedshirt: javascript is the only way to resize the window09:38
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slask3nhardwire: yes ive checked everything in alsamixer and it looks good.. but still gnomemeeting can't grap any audio from the mic09:38
slask3ngrab*09:38
hardw1rehmmm09:39
hardw1rein terminal type alsamixer09:39
hardw1reand make sure its the correct device thats showing up09:39
whyameyeunzip does not unzip my zipped archive. It unzips fine in Windows. Anything I should try?09:39
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hardw1reif it is, tab across to the capture section09:39
hardw1reand then push the volume up for mic09:39
Want3dwhats the command to manually install a .deb ?09:39
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nightswimdpkg -i09:40
hardw1redpkg -i09:40
hardw1rebah :P09:40
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slask3nhardw1re: yes i pushed F4 and got a list of all capture dvices09:40
hardw1reand you pushed the mic volume up?09:40
slask3nyes09:40
slask3nand unmuted it09:40
hardw1rehmm....09:40
linuksoHi! What date is set for the release of breezy?09:40
EnsignRedshirtI see. Resizing is really annoying, especially when it make the window fill the screen.  Then the bottom of the window falls below Gnome's tool bar, and it is impossible (as far as I can tell) to shrink the window again.09:40
hardw1rehave you pluggeed it into the correct jacksocket? :P09:40
hardw1reoctober09:40
hardw1resometime09:40
hardw1rebrb foodage09:41
JzEWould Ubuntu work on my old comp... Specs are CPU 200 Mhz, Memory: 80 MB and 2gb harddisk09:41
slask3nhardwire: yes, i tried the other input slot now.. but that didn't worjk either09:41
zblachanyone here know hot to connect to a wireless network?09:41
zblach**how to09:41
maan84Excuse me, anyone know a program that would unarchive *.img files?09:41
zblachmaan84, never heard of .img09:41
hardw1rehmmm, and are you getting sound output slask3n?09:42
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hardw1rebrb09:42
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maan84zblach, an DVD image file :)09:42
phantom_Anyone installed Beneath a Steel Sky???09:42
slask3nmaan84: .img is a part of an cue-bin image file09:42
zblachmaan84, try UltraISO09:42
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kemikmaan84:  you can burn it with growisofs09:42
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slask3nmaan84: try burn it out with gnomebaker/k3b09:43
phantom_what does it mean that there is only dat files in Synaptic Package Manager???09:43
plagerismmaan84 you can mount .img files09:43
zblachhow to connect to a wireless network, anyone?09:43
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plagerismand then burn em with growisofs09:43
maan84Thank you, I tried k3b to burn it and it worked fine, though now I want to unarchive the img file to my hd :)09:43
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slask3nplagerism: can you mount imagefiles without using any tools like cdemu in linux?09:43
maan84plagerism, how do I mount it? :)09:44
plagerismmaan84 you can mount it.  mount -o loop *.img temp09:44
kemikmaan84:  you dont unarchive it, you mount it ;)09:44
maan84All right, thank you I'll try that :)09:44
kemiktemp is the mountpoint09:44
plagerismmaan84 you have to mount it as root though09:44
slask3nhardw1re: yes, the sound output are alright i just pluggged it in and it worked.. i bought a mic today but that doesnt work09:44
plagerismmaan84 sudo09:44
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maan84plagerism, I can try sudo mount -o loog *.img temp ?09:44
kemikslask3n:  .img isnt part of a cue-bin setup09:44
kemikmaan84:  no09:45
plagerismwell maan84 first you have to make the directory temp, and replace *.img with your image file09:45
kemikmaan84:  "sudo mount -o loop filename.img /path/to/mountdirectory"09:45
slask3nkemik: ok, im sorry, I was thinking of the CloneCD image .ccd09:45
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T-OneI'm getting an authentication error using packages from multiverse09:45
maan84Ok hmm :) So for example it can be sudo mount -o loop filename.img /home/maan84/temp/ ?09:46
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phreakyshi09:46
zblachhi09:46
phreakyssup?09:46
Want3danyone running Breezy and having any issues?09:47
Seveas <-- sup(erscript)09:47
slask3nhardwire: i just need to reboot.. ill be right back09:47
kemikmaan84:  yes09:47
kemikcrap.. md5sum checks out, but still i get "CRC Error" when booting the vector linux cd.. :/09:48
maan84kemik, plagerism : Ok I'll try it, thanks for the help09:48
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zblachkemik, CRC error b/c you're burning too fast maybe?09:48
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hardw1reback09:49
kemikzblach:  must be.. gotta tune down to 8x09:49
GeoffDeGeoffQuestion: I can no longer play wmv files, it has suddenly stopped working, I have all the relevant files installed. codes etc. Anyone any ideas?09:49
zblachkemik, had same error when i burned at 48x, turned it down to 12x, and it worked. Then i got a real cd09:49
zblachanyone here know anything of iwlist?09:50
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kemikzblach:  oh crap, come to think of it it says 1-12x on the darn things09:51
hardw1reWant3d: i was running breezy, had to many issues for my liking so i've gone back to hoary for the time being09:51
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hardw1rewelcome back slask3n09:51
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tristanmikei live with savages09:51
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Want3dwhat kind of issues?09:51
NateHi can someone help me encode a wav into an MP3 with LAME?09:51
zblachkemik, lol. happens to all of us09:51
Want3di havent had a single one09:51
hardw1rewebcam, cant remember what else09:51
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bigmouth000anyone have time to help a noob with cable modem problems ?09:52
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zblachbigmouth000, sure09:52
afaikhey, how can you run a command from the console and ensure it is the09:53
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kemikzblach:  yea, but it usually happens later at night, its only 22pm ! :)09:53
kemikafaik:   is the ?09:53
zblachkemik, 22pm = 10am?09:53
tristanmike22:00 = 10pm09:54
DragonFighterWhy isn't Ubuntuguide in the channel header?09:54
DragonFighterI found it very informative09:54
zblachtristanmike, kemik: its only 22pm! :)09:54
factorxabout shellscripting: how can I put the return value of a command into a variable? i.e. number=who | wc -l doesnt work09:54
yaru22If I want to start off the computer at command mode, should I change id:2:initdefault: to id:N:initdefault: in /etc/inittab file?09:54
darkheart!ubuntuguide09:54
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned09:54
DragonFighterurl is: http://ubuntuguide.org/09:54
rayhow do i make a startup script09:54
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uthiniITguy, that autopsy wants images of the disk09:55
FreddeDo I have to change anything to start the live cd?09:55
ITguyuthini: Yes, use dd and make an image09:55
uthinimkay09:55
tristanmikeDragonFighter, if you think about it, at the top it says "Unofficial", that's not a joke09:55
yaru22If I want to start off the computer at command mode, should I change id:2:initdefault: to id:N:initdefault: in /etc/inittab file?09:56
rob_prayde:  Copy one of the less complex ones from the /etc/init.d directory and then modify it for your purposes.  That's the easiest way.09:56
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DragonFightertristanmike: I know/knew about that but still if I need a quicky way of doing something the guide works for me.09:56
yaru22for redhat linux it was id:5:initdefault for x-window and id:3:initdefault for command line ; but dunno for ubuntu09:56
rob_prayde:  oops!  wrong nick!!!09:56
ITguyyaru22: Ubuntu is debain based and doesnt use the concept of different runlevels09:57
uthiniITguy, e.g.? dd /dev/myDrive /myImage?09:57
ITguy*debian09:57
rob_prayde:  Copy one of the less complex ones from the /etc/init.d directory and then modify it for your purposes.  That's the easiest way.09:57
tristanmikeDragonFighter, it has NO instructions on how to use any of the commands, and for new people, it is the wrong way, the wiki is much better09:57
DragonFightertristanmike: ok09:57
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rob_prayde:  ok then... rayde :-)09:57
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tristanmikeDragonFighter, plus the wiki everyone can contribute too :)09:57
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Dreamer3ok09:57
ITguyuthini: input file and output file, 'dd if=/dev/myDrive of=/myImage'09:58
ITguyThat might take awhile09:58
Dreamer3anyone know how to change the X DPI or whatever without restarting X?09:58
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Dreamer3i switched from 1280x1024 to 1024x768 and now all my fonts are tiny09:58
DragonFighteruthini: someone in this channel once told me that dd is, how do you call it, when something is old and new better methods exists.09:58
ITguyDreamer3: Ever try making your fonts bigger?09:58
uthiniITguy, for $3000 worth of data, i have the time09:58
kemikzblach:  oh christ.. im really confused.. i meant 10pm or 2200.. i managed to mess that up too ;)09:58
ITguyuthini: What got blasted?09:59
darkheartDragonFighter deprecated? obsolete?09:59
Dreamer3ITguy: well... ok... that's works for now... but then i guess i make them smaller when i switch back up?09:59
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DragonFighterdarkheart: deprecated09:59
uthiniITguy, 8 months worth of work09:59
NateWould anybody please take time to give me some instructions on how to convert a WAV to MP3 file using lame?09:59
ITguyOuch!09:59
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Dreamer3ITguy: changing the default font in XFCE's config helped a lot... thanks for that no-brainer :)10:00
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davehello. windows broke. can i burn dvds from ubuntu?10:00
zblachdave, yes10:00
ITguyuthini: Take a look at this from now on. It works like a charm for personal desktops: http://www.mondorescue.org/10:00
davewith the default setup?10:00
Dreamer3ITguy: of course it hasn't changed ALL my fonts, just most of them... that's why i actually wanted to change the DPI, etc10:00
ITguyDreamer3: np10:00
DragonFighterDave gnomefiles has some options that you should also find in universe.10:00
DragonFighteruniverse repo that is.10:01
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daveok, sounds good. is there some ubuntu documentation i should be reading?10:01
GeoffDeGeoffQuestion: I can no longer play wmv files, it has suddenly stopped working, I have all the relevant files installed. codes etc. Anyone any ideas?10:01
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zblach_anyone_ know wireless networking?10:03
DragonFighterdave: look at this list http://www.gnomefiles.com/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=103 and then look for the program you want in the repo's10:03
davesee, i dont even know what repos are :) i dont see anything on the ubuntu site about how to use them10:03
raven3x7!tell dave about repos10:04
Nateis there a LAME GUI?10:04
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ITguyIf your wireless card isn't officially supported its a pain. Ndiswrapper isn't very fun to set up10:04
DragonFighterdave: use that program, I don't remember its name, to download files or that you use to update ubuntu10:04
uthinithx ITguy, if this work's i'll consider getting u a mail-order bride10:04
davethis irc client isn't able to view private messages10:04
ITguyuthini: Could you get a german one?10:04
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raven3x7dave if you're using xchat sure it is10:05
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Amairgon'lo ppl10:05
FreddeHow do I start the live cd?10:05
FreddeDo I just put it in and reboot?10:05
zblachfredde, put cd in, reboot computer10:05
NateYeo10:05
davei didnt say i was using xchat.10:05
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FreddeOk10:05
lllmanulllFredde, Yes, exactly10:05
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zblachsheesh10:05
uthiniITguy, i know some namibian ladies that speak german :P10:05
bigmouth000Anyone have any idea on where you can get drivers for Huawei modems ?10:05
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raven3x7dave i was just guessing10:05
ITguyuthini: They make you do computer forensice as part of the SANS GSEC training. All you are doing is routine forensics10:05
Spudchathi everyone10:05
raven3x7!repos10:06
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:06
ITguyuthini: Sure, send them my way10:06
daveapparently i already have dvdrwrtools installed. now i just need to figure out how to use it.10:06
zblachbigmouth000, www.huawei.com.cn10:06
Amairgon*sigh*10:06
Spudchati just downloaded a file to the desktop but i cant see it...but when i cd to Desktop and ls there it is10:06
uthinilol ITguy :)10:06
Spudchatany ideas?10:06
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muffin_help! my gain disconnects the whole time. is there an alternative?10:06
ITguydave: growisofs from the command line. gnomebaker 0.4 for a gui10:06
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aeolistsay, has anybody got the num lock button going through numlockx and the stuff described in www.ubuntuguide.com?10:06
muffin_i mean gaim10:07
davewhere do i get this gnomebaker?10:07
nalioth_zZzaeolist: be carefuel with stuff from ubuntuguide10:07
muffin_!esd#10:07
ubotumuffin_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!10:07
muffin_!esd10:07
ubotuI guess esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.10:07
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iiiearsdave - you can use synaptic package manager or apt-get gnomebaker10:08
zblachdave, gnomebaker is a standard package with gnomebutcher and gnomecandlestickmaker10:08
aeolistwhy is that nalioth ?10:08
ITguyno10:08
ITguyThe ubuntu repos have gnomebaker 0.310:08
uthiniITguy, do u know if linux kernel supports 7VM400AM-RZ series amd mobo's yet?10:08
DragonFighterdave: follow the instruction that ubuto send: ubotu: repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 To add the multiverse repo.10:09
rebugaside from the fact that linksys makes crap hardware, is there any reason for me not to buy a wmp54g pci card for an ubuntu box?10:09
eliphas_how to lanchu beneath a steel sky?10:09
zone17Hi, how do I force xorg to run at 85Hz? The v and h freq are set right. I can't get it higher than 70, but on windows it can run at 100hz10:09
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raven3x7muffin_, i believe ther is one called everybody and ther is also the kde IM kopete10:09
ITguy0.4 has dvd support. I know because I'm the one that emailed the gnomebaker devs requesting it10:09
zblachrebug, i have taht card10:09
ITguyuthini: not a clue10:09
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zblachrebug, and it DOESN'T WORK10:09
raven3x7muffin_, everybuddie that is10:09
zblachrebug, oh, and thats a router, not a card10:10
davewhat is there a link that will tell mewhat repositories are?10:10
DragonFighterI see that Ubuntu is the most popular distro over the whole last year: http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity10:10
Seveas!repos10:10
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:10
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raven3x7!repos10:10
muffin_raven3x7, thx10:10
Seveastoo late ;)10:10
Spudchatok so i made another copy but how do i delete the old one?10:10
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raven3x7im slow :p10:10
rebugzblach: it's a pci adapter....10:10
daveok, this site doesnt tell me anything at all.10:10
davei do not know what a multiverse is10:10
husheris there a .torrent of breezy colony 3?10:10
zblachrebug, ? my linksys router: WRT54G. my card: WMP11V2710:11
Seveasdave, read the seconl link...10:11
rebugzblach: http://tinyurl.com/dx5rt10:12
davethat has nothing to do with what i just says10:12
Spudchatwhats the command to delete from the terminal?10:12
davesaid*.10:12
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davedelete? rm10:12
muffin_how can i install a newer gaim version than on ubuntu servers??10:12
Spudchatthanks10:13
flhi all. good evening.10:13
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davehello there.10:13
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Seveasmuffin_, grab one from the backports10:13
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davethis is extremely frustrating, isn't there some ridiculously easy GUI program i can use?10:13
gnonthgolyou can download the gaim and install it with alian10:13
zblachrebug, i said WRT, now WMP10:13
daveto burn dvds10:13
bigmouth000need drivers for a huawei modem ...10:13
muffin_Seveas: is it newer than 1.1.4??10:13
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uthiniwow bigmouth000, u can get a c compiler and start typing10:14
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rebugzblach: exactly...i'm asking if anyone has experience with the wmp54g. i've got one "does not work" so far, which is damning enough i suppose10:14
Spudchatallright everyone thanks10:14
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raven3x7dave its a part of a repository. a repository is a server that contains programs for installation. it is split i varius categories (base(the ubuntu base system), universe(additional programs maintained by volunteers, multiverse whic includse closed source apps, etc..)10:14
Seveasmuffin_, wouldn't know...10:14
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raven3x7dave synaptic10:15
chrismyto all....how could i customise my own 404, 500, etc page?10:15
iiiearsraven3x7 - applauds!10:15
daveok. so i add these repositories, then i can download programs, yes?10:15
bigmouth000@uthini ... VERY helpful10:15
raven3x7dave k3b , gnomebaker, xcdroast10:15
chrismywhich config file do i do the errordocument?10:15
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aeolistcan somebody tell me why i shouldnt trust ubuntuguide, as nalioth suggested?10:16
lJlolelwhat is a good pop daemon?10:16
NoUse!ubuntuguide10:16
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned10:16
Seveaschrismy, .htaccess in your web root folder10:16
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daveraven3x7: gnomebaker doesnt seem to exist according to synaptic10:16
zblachubuntuguide is fine, if you just want to do something. i.e. soundserver10:16
chrismySeveas, ok i will try again(yes again)10:17
Seveaszblach, that part of the guide is exceptionally crackful10:17
KillerSmurfhello all.  Can anyone tell me why kanotix has overclocking with the nvidia settings on a 6600GT but not the ubuntu version.  Or am I mistaken?10:17
aeolistok then10:17
raven3x7dave you need to enable multiverse then. and you only need to do this once. follow the instructions in the webpage about adding repositories.10:18
iiiearsdave - under synaptic settings add a repository "universe community supported" -  refresh sources. gnomebaker will be there. :)10:18
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uthinibaah10:19
uthininow i can't install cedega cos i'm installing mondo10:19
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=== SRS-ROX : Linkin Park - Somewhere I Belong (ULTRA ONLINE 48 kbps : http://ultraonline.org) [00:00m, 48 kbps ]
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raven3x7eh universe then... :o10:20
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iiiearsSRS-ROX - Welcome to Ubuntu. - ads to songs aren't fashionable here please turn them off. ;)10:20
damsko:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i f4l_0.2-1_i386.deb10:21
damskoSelecting previously deselected package f4l.10:21
damsko(Reading database ... 72236 files and directories currently installed.)10:21
damskoUnpacking f4l (from f4l_0.2-1_i386.deb) ...10:21
damskodpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of f4l:10:21
damsko f4l depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:10:21
damsko  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14.10:21
damsko f4l depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-9); however:10:21
damsko  Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.0.0-7ubuntu6~5.04ubp1.10:21
damsko f4l depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:10:21
damsko  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.10:21
damsko f4l depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4-3); however:10:21
raven3x7damsko no pasting10:21
damsko  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.10:21
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damsko f4l depends on libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0); however:10:21
damsko  Version of libfontconfig1 on system is 2.2.3-4ubuntu7.10:21
damsko f4l depends on libxrender1 (>= 1:0.9.0-2); however:10:21
muffin_how do i install a "gaim-1.5.0.x86.package" ?10:21
raven3x7use pastebin10:21
damsko  Version of libxrender1 on system is 0.9.0-0ubuntu4.10:21
damsko f4l depends on libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8-3); however:10:21
damsko  Version of libexpat1 on system is 1.95.8-1.10:21
damskodpkg: error processing f4l (--install):10:21
damsko dependency problems - leaving unconfigured10:21
tristanmikeSTOP!10:21
damskoErrors were encountered while processing:10:21
damsko f4l10:22
CookedGryphoni don't think damsko 's listening10:22
damskosomeone knows what i have to do?10:22
damskosorry10:22
iiiearsubotu tell damsko about flood10:22
muffin_damsko: go to #flood10:22
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gnonthgolmuffin: download the package and install it with alien -i10:22
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muffin_gnonthgol thx10:22
raven3x7damsko you got backports enabled?10:22
tristanmike!ubotu tell damsko about pastebin10:22
KillerSmurf! nvidia settings10:23
ubotuKillerSmurf: Are you smoking crack?10:23
KillerSmurf!nvidia settings10:23
ubotuKillerSmurf: Wish i knew10:23
KillerSmurf!nvidia-settings10:23
ubotuKillerSmurf: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:23
KillerSmurf!nvidia10:23
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia10:23
iiiearsnvidia-glx?10:23
davecan i mount my windows drive as a user?10:23
KillerSmurfno.... I've got the bin drivers installed10:23
mjrdave, yes, if you have the "user" option in fstab for it10:23
flit's so much nicer once I squelch ubotu...10:24
raven3x7dave sure although ntfs is read only10:24
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iiiearsdave - Seveas was nice enough to write winmac_fstab a script to do that automatically.10:24
iiiears!ntfs10:24
Xenguyfl: or /ignore those who engage in bot abuse :p10:24
davethats fine, i just need to back up ntfs stuff.10:24
KillerSmurfiiiears I'm tring to figure how kubuntu got o/c into the nvidia settings of there pacage10:24
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ITguyraven3x7: CaptiveNTFS is full rw support for NTFS. It takes a few seconds to mount, but works perfectly10:24
w1nghzi10:24
KillerSmurfnot kubuntu kanotix10:24
daveor, could i just run gnomebaker as root? that sounds easier.10:24
flXenguy, yeah, but that's a moving target.10:24
w1nghi again10:24
tristanmikeoh, did Seveas write that? Awesome thanx Seveas.10:24
Xenguyfl: true, but they deserve it =)10:25
iiiearsKiller, - good question10:25
Vizirianyone here use speedtouch adsl modem by any chance?10:25
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daveis it safe to run sudo gnomebaker ?10:25
gnonthgolViziri: I do10:25
daveam i missing any repercussions here10:25
chrismySeveas, ErrorDocument 404 "hello" is that ok?10:25
raven3x7ITguy, yeah but ubuntu doesnt have captive(at least not by default) is there a package?10:25
iiiearsdave absolutely10:25
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ITguyRW NTFS supprot: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/10:25
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KillerSmurfI like kanotix but I'm back to ubuntu.  The scripts they had were great but I wasn't learning anything10:25
flXenguy, yeah, but even if they deserve it, I have not yet heard of "adaptive auto-ignoring". I can't just ignore everyone who uses ubotu10:26
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SeveasITguy, did you get that to work on Ubuntu?10:26
w1ngdoes some1 know a good dyndns updater for linux?10:26
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Viziricool gnonthgol  - i was wondering if you know of easy to follow guide in making the modem work with ubuntu?10:26
damskohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/161910:26
iiiearsITguy - linux ntfs support is a bit sketchy and prone to heartbreak.10:26
damsko:D10:26
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daveiiiears: some other guy just said it was perfect...10:26
hundgehi all10:26
KillerSmurfhas anyone gotten penginTV working on hoary?10:26
gnonthgolViziri: Just google it10:26
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daveoh, ITguy sa id it10:27
davewell then.10:27
w1ngdoes some1 know a good dyndns updater for linux?10:27
iiiearsdave - I'll cross my fingers and think good thoughts for you.10:27
ITguyiiiears: Captive uses the windows kernel, parts of reactos, and parts of wine for perfect rntfs10:27
raven3x7i know captive but building from source is to risky for me10:27
KillerSmurfkdm or gdm what should I use?10:27
ITguySeveas: Yes it works fine10:27
NoUsew1ng apt-cache search dyndn10:27
NoUsedyndns*10:27
SeveasITguy, hmm, never worked for me10:27
kemikKillerSmurf:  running KDE or Gnome? ;)10:27
Seveashow did you get it to work?10:27
ITguyKnoppix has had captive working for a year now10:27
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davereactos, when is that happening10:27
damskocan someone help me? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/161910:27
NateI'm getting upset with Grip10:27
ITguySeveas: followed the directions XD10:27
SeveasITguy, which means it's obsolete and about to stop working...10:27
hundgeI have a problem with my ipod and rhythmbox : the program crashes as soon as the device is connected ? I have looked the forums and didn't find a similar issue ?10:28
KillerSmurfkemik still up for debate.  depends if I can get digicam up for gnome10:28
SeveasITguy, which ones?10:28
gnonthgolRythembox suxs10:28
iiiearsITguy - if you can find the driver sysinternals sold for a bit before being sued you would have something.10:28
w1ngNoUse, this doesn't return results10:28
muffin_!multiverse10:28
ubotuask me about !repositories10:28
muffin_!repositories10:28
ubotufrom memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:28
flshould the Breezy Colony 3 i386 automatically recognize SMP and install the -smp kernel? I did not do that on my machine :-(10:28
NateI'll rip a song, and I can find it in /home/nate/mp3/artist/ and AS its being ripped, but when its done ripping it dissapears and is no where to be found, I tried using filesearch, everything10:28
LinuxJonesgnonthgol, why's that ?10:28
qatsihello all !...im having some issues with the sounds in ubuntu , i can payback audio but i dont have any sound...:p10:28
NoUse^-- w1ng - add those repostitories10:28
Natebut its no where to be found10:29
w1ngokay10:29
KillerSmurfqatsi ... is alsa unmuted?10:29
ITguySeveas: Since FUSE got put in mainline, LUFS  development died.10:29
qatsiKillerSmurf: uhmm, checked the sound volumes and they are ok....10:29
damskocan someone help me? ---http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/161910:29
raven3x7damsko you got any unusual repos enabled (backports, etc..)10:29
dave?10:29
iiiearsubotu ntfs is also Very nice script Seveas. - Thank You.10:29
damskook10:29
ubotuiiiears: okay10:29
gnonthgolRythembox cant play half the media types and are just causing bugs10:29
davewhy doesnt this 695mb file fit on the 700mb disc>??!10:29
ITguySeveas: the LUFS -> FUSE bridge does work for me10:29
damskohow do i fix them?10:30
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Seveasiiiears, don't do that...10:30
NoUsedamsko is that a deb meant for debian?10:30
damskoyes10:30
davewith gnomebaker, it says my 695mb file wont fit on a cd10:30
NoUsedamsko it might not work with ubuntu10:30
Seveas!no, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.10:31
hundgeis muine worth a try ?10:31
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damsko:(10:32
damskook10:32
ITguySeveas: is that to teach the bot?10:32
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SeveasITguy, yes10:32
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ITguynice10:32
FreddeThe live cd is great :)10:32
zevetshi, I am trying to set it so that the GUI will not automatically start10:32
sprowderwow - my ubuntu is working... *ll10:32
NatePlease, can someone help me with Grip?10:32
zevetsI tried setting it to runlevel 310:32
zevetsbut it isn't working10:33
iiiearsSeveas - Aw. - You wrote a very helpful script.10:33
Seveasiiiears, but that should not be blatantly spammed in the factoid10:33
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zevetshi, I am trying to set it so that the GUI will not automatically start, I set it to run level 3, but it isn't staying that way10:34
gnonthgolzevets: prevent X from starting from the script in init.d10:34
iiiearsOkay. - Just know i'll thank you then.10:34
ITguyzevets: Try searching the forums before asking here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6460 It  took me 10 seconds to find it10:34
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iiiears;)10:34
one2whats the best most secure local mail delivery app i have postfix running now10:34
one2?10:34
ITguypostfix10:34
naliothanyone know of any ubuntu project rss/xml feeds?10:34
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hubsihow do i set a var @ bashscript?10:34
Seveasnalioth, planet.ubuntu.com10:34
zevetsI saw that guy, but it doesn't make any sense to me10:35
Seveasnalioth, www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/hoary.xml10:35
one2dude this distro is go'in places10:35
Seveas(and warty.xml and breezy.xml and usn.xml)10:35
one2:}10:35
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iiiearsSeveas - Fan club now forming. - lol10:35
muffin_is there a repository search engine?10:35
Seveasmuffin_, http://packages.ubuntu.com10:36
davedoes it matter whether i finalise my dvd or not?10:36
zevetshi, I am trying to set it so that the GUI will not automatically start, I set it to run level 3, but it isn't staying that way, I saw the thingy in the forums, but it doesn't make any sense to me10:36
husheris there a way on only install one package from the dev repositories and leave the rest alone?10:37
gnonthgolzevets: try prevent X to start10:37
naliothty seveas10:38
davehello, in order to use gnomebaker, do i need to mount my cdrom first?10:38
raven3x7dave are you using gnmoe?10:38
davei think so.10:38
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zevetsI don't understand what it wonts me to do10:39
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davezevets: tell us the part you don't understand.10:39
zevetsall of it10:39
zevetsim a noob10:39
raven3x7gnome automounts cds. but you should enable dma if that is supported by your drive(most probably)10:39
raven3x7!dma10:40
daveraven3x7: crap, i forgot all about DMA. is it any easier to do in linux?10:40
daveit's almost impossible in windows10:40
jchicois the java package broken for apt-get at the moment?10:40
Belutzfinally i installed the latest ATI drivers!!! lol :D10:40
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davei would really like to burn this DVD.10:40
\dev\goatBelutz, they rule, don't they ^_^10:41
daveis there like a DVD burning distro i could get? rofl10:41
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Belutz\dev\goat: yup... :)10:41
iiiears!dma10:41
davethat's not doing anything10:41
raven3x7type sudo hpdarm -d1 /dev/hd? replace ? with the approprite number10:41
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iiiearsubotu tell dave dma10:41
Belutzdave: use hdparm10:41
gnonthgolzevets: if you (re)move a file called Xfree-common or simmelar in /etc/init.d X dont start and you got no gui, but why dont you just install the light version10:41
daveoh gee. why didnt i think of that!10:42
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daveforget it, this is a waste of time.10:42
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zevetsI want a GUI10:42
Belutzlol10:42
fldave, what is a waste of time? asking questions? :-)10:42
zevetsbut some of the stuff I need to do10:42
iiiearsthanks dave - ;)10:42
zevetsrequires that it is down for part of the time10:43
davepretty much. why should i need to ask how to burn a dvd?!10:43
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muffin_where is the cedega config file?10:43
zevetsand even when I ctrl alt backspace10:43
zevetsit comes back up10:43
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Seveaszevets, /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:43
zevetsI want it to boot to command line10:43
Belutzdave: don't forget the lighter.... j/k :D10:43
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davehaha10:43
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flyou could just use xcdroast, or k3b, or gnoe-whatever...10:43
crubeWhat do I need to play WMV files?10:44
Seveaszevets, update-rc.d gdm start 3 4 5 . stop 0 1 2 6 .10:44
davecan i use k3b in gnome?10:44
Belutzi use nerolinux, it's great10:44
raven3x7dave yes10:44
flsure. (it just loads all the KDE libs in the background)10:44
davewhat is the hdparm command to check DMA?10:44
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gnonthgolzevets: # sudo /etc/init.d/xfree86-common start to start and stop to stop10:44
flman hdparm?10:45
davenevermind, i found it.10:45
daveusing dma, on.10:45
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flDMA isn't always useful. e.g., I use a USB DVD burner, which works just fine, but DMA does not apply here...10:45
fljust to stuff that's attached to your IDE bus10:46
raven3x7well dma is ussually needed fior eide devices10:46
daveindeed, i know.10:46
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fldave, nice, then I don't have to explain :-)10:46
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zevetsI am very confused10:47
zevetswhat do I do gnonthgol10:47
zevetsI do not have a file xfree86-common10:47
robotgeekzevets: do u not want kdm/gdm to start up?10:47
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davethis is very difficult. more difficult than it should be.10:47
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zevetsno10:47
zevetsI want to boot to command line10:47
zevetsand then type startx10:47
zevetsthen I get it10:48
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gnonthgolzevets: but if you move the file #sudo cp /etc/init.d/xfree86-common /etc/ X would not start when the computer starts10:48
one2i want hardened kernel are there any provided by ubuntu or debian preferably with the grsecurity patches10:48
zevetsok10:48
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zevetsI do not have that file10:48
davehopefully k3b does better than gnomebaker.10:48
muffin_where is the cedega config file?10:48
gnonthgolzevets: find a simmelar file10:48
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davealthough, i think it is because i am running the program as root that i am getting the error.10:48
robotgeekzevets: do this, "cd /etc/init.d/10:48
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zevetsdone10:48
daveshouldn't root be able to access the cdrom drive?10:48
OewynCan anyone help me with a wireless card problem, ubuntu detected my card correctly, but it's not listed in network tools when i try to activate it.  I've tried using ndiswrapper with the drivers that came on a CD, but that didn't work either...10:48
paganiniHi all10:49
gnonthgolzevets: # ls10:49
raven3x7dave i would say k3b is the easiest to use burner for linux10:49
mpnGreetings. Is there any way to restart X so that the changes I made in xorgcfg come into effect?10:49
zevetsk10:49
mpnAlso, I'm on a LiveCD.10:49
davei'm sure it's easy to use, but that's not the issue.10:49
raven3x7dave if its mounted10:49
zevetsI have x org common10:49
kemiki find NeroLinux very nice10:49
zevetsthats it10:49
davei do not know if it is mounted.10:49
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Kyralmpn, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE10:49
robotgeekzevets: do u have gdm or kdm?10:49
Kyral...10:49
tristanmikei hear NeroLinux isn't very good, plus its proprietary10:49
KyralI didn't mean RIGHT now10:49
zevetsI think I am using gdm10:50
zevetspretty sure10:50
robotgeekKyral: lol10:50
zevetsits gnome10:50
monkey89has anyone gotten nvidia binary to work with breezy recently, the debian way?10:50
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marcinhi10:50
davei don't see any cdrom in the mount list.10:50
rober90aanybody using vmware?10:50
robotgeekzevets: do "sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove"10:50
paganiniI've got a SmartLink modem I'm trying to install drivers for. The Unofficial Ubuntu Starter Guide mentions that the output of uname -r needs to be 2.6.10-5-386 for these drivers to work10:50
kemiktristanmike:  well, burning cue/bin and .iso etc etc ..10:50
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paganiniI have a celeron processor in my machine, so I'm using the 2.6.10-5-686 headers and image. Will that screw thigns up?10:50
paganiniDo I have to downgrade?10:50
marcincan anyone tell me if ubuntu supprots Sagem Fast 800 modem (sorry form my english:>)10:50
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zevetsI still want to use gnome10:50
raven3x7i think NeroLinux at this point doesnt add anything that is not in other burning apps10:50
zevetsI just don't want it to boot10:51
tristanmikekemik, oh yeah, that's ok then, just no dvd or data?10:51
KyralK3b > NeroLinux10:51
volvoguyhey all. does anyone know where the vesa-fb module gets loaded so i can make it stop?10:51
robotgeekzevets: yeah, no problem with that..10:51
Kyralpaganini, I don't think so...10:51
raven3x7dave does it show a disk on your desktop?10:51
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Kyralif it boots its good :P10:51
zevetsdone10:51
zevetsctrl alt backspace?10:51
paganiniKyral, cool. I was hoping.10:51
davei dunno10:51
paganini:)10:51
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kemiktristanmike:  burns dvd and data fine aswell10:51
daveyes, it does.10:51
robotgeekzevets: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:52
daveit shows the disc on my desktop. but the device is not in the mount list.10:52
raven3x7double click it10:52
Kyralubotu ctrlaltbackspace restarts X10:52
ubotuKyral: Do they come in packets of five?10:52
Kyraltell ubotu ctrlaltbackspace restarts X10:52
kdibblewhich package do I need to install to get mp3 support in rhythmbox?10:52
raven3x7dave you mean fstab?10:52
tristanmikekemik, not that i've used it, what's the major difference?10:52
Kyral!mp310:52
ubotuwell, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support10:52
daveno. i mean the mount command output...10:52
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raven3x7kdibble, gstreamer-mad10:52
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sn0nhey kids..10:53
gnonthgolzevets: all files in /etc/init.d will start at boot, if you can remove the files that starts the gui10:53
Kyralubotu tell kdibble about mp310:53
daveanyway, the preferences of gnomebaker actually sees my drive, NEC 3500.10:53
kemiktristanmike:  difference from what?  ;)10:53
tristanmikekemik, from the windows version?10:53
davei dont see why i shouldnt be able to access it10:53
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kdibblerave3x7: thank you10:53
robotgeekgnonthgol: he left, i guess X shutdown!10:53
gnonthgollol10:53
bimberiyes, stopping gdm kills X10:53
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davethis truly confuses me.10:54
rober90anybody using vmware or similar?10:54
kemiktristanmike:  i didnt use nero that much in windows for the last year or so... mostly used DVD Decrypter10:54
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tristanmikekemik, ahh, ok, thanx for the info :)10:54
kemiktristanmike:  but the GUI i'd say is very diff...10:54
raven3x7dave the cdrom should be liste as /dev/hd? in your mount list10:54
raven3x7listed10:54
Oewyncan anyone help me out with a wireless problem?10:55
tristanmikekemik, no doubt, maybe I'll check it out, does my windows serial work?10:55
davei assure you it is not there.10:55
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seliniumIs bluetooth supposed to be so difficult?10:55
kemiktristanmike:  im not sure, i'm runing "demo version" it'll expire 31/810:55
gnonthgolOewyn: I can try10:55
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tristanmikekemik, lol, ok thanx again10:56
seliniumTrying to connect 2 different phones and still having no joy10:56
flwoah, Google maps is *soo* cool.10:56
raven3x7then type mount /dev/hd? to mount it although thats strange that you would have to do that10:56
flNext thing I want from you is LatLon in you IRC whois :-)10:56
Oewyngnonthgol: it detects my wireless card all right, as marvell g6800 (or something similar would have to reboot to check) but i don't see it on network tools, and ifup wlan0 does nothing... it's like it's there,detected and installed, but not working.10:56
davemount /dev/hdc ?10:57
raven3x7well whatever your cdrom is10:57
davewell hdc froze10:57
davethis is very, very frustrating10:57
phreakyshow can i shut off a process based on the pid?10:57
gnonthgolOewyn: are you sure you got the driver?10:57
davekill pidhere10:57
phreakyscool10:57
phreakystnx10:57
daveitt should not be this difficult to burn a frigging dvd10:57
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Oewynwell, when i installed ubuntu it auto-detected it, i tried doing ndiswrapper, but i don't think it's compatable with the driver that's on my cd (from the wireless card co)10:58
daveoh guess what, now the window with the mount command is frozen10:58
davei am going to go kill myself.10:58
raven3x7no i my drive always automounts in gnome nec 3550A10:58
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raven3x7frozen?10:58
gnonthgolOewyn: try to use iwconfig10:58
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davejyes, very frozen10:59
seliniumfl have you seen earth.googlr.com?10:59
seliniumfl have you seen earth.google.com?10:59
Oewyngnonthgol: okay, anything else i should try before i reboot into linux?10:59
volvoguytristanmike, you can get an nerolinux serial if you own the windows version10:59
daveown?10:59
daveheh10:59
daveown or have?10:59
flselinium, yeah, I have. But it's Win only...10:59
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muffin_how do i add subfolders to gnome panels?10:59
Akbarown :P10:59
sn0ngah10:59
raven3x7are yoou sure dev/hdc is your cdro?10:59
sn0ngotta go10:59
tristanmikevolvoguy, how, do you call them to get a NeroLinux serial?11:00
gnonthgolOewyn: #iwconfig wlan0 essid any would fix the problem, and you got IRC on gaim to11:00
volvoguyi own. it's one of the only windows apps worth owning.11:00
daveno, i am not sure.11:00
hans_are there better drivers our for radeons yet?11:00
daveill try the other one too11:00
Akbarhans_ proprietary fglrx?11:00
Oewynwell, if i could access the internet from linux, this wouldn't be a problem, because that would mean my wireless card is working :-)11:00
davewell, according to my fstab it is hdc.11:00
Oewynbrb in a few.11:00
gnonthgolok11:00
seliniumfl: I keep hearing about it, but I am now linux only.  Still only missout on a few things?11:00
volvoguytristanmike, seems like i did it all online. i didn't reinstall it last time i installed Ubuntu, so they may have changed it.11:00
hans_Akbar i have that but the 2d performance is crappy11:00
selinium!bluetooth11:01
hans_and the 3d,too11:01
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, selinium11:01
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Akbarhans_ do you have them properly installed?11:01
Akbarwell fglrx is the best at the moment11:01
Mulerobuenas11:01
Muleroalguien me puede ayudar?11:01
seliniumAny bluetooth gurus about?11:01
tristanmikevolvoguy, ok, thanx11:01
daveok, so. am i supposed to mount a drive with  a blank CD in it?11:01
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hans_akbar thx11:01
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raven3x7dave there is a command to display all eide devices but i dont remember it right now11:02
ompauldave, mp11:02
ompauldave, no even :)11:02
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daveok, so why is gnomebaker telling me i need to mount it11:02
daveerror, drive is not mounted! blah blah11:02
muffin_help: gaim is crashing after startup (when i dont force quit, it disconnects)11:02
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usuariohi!11:03
raven3x7dave i dont think for burning it but im not sure about that. gnome can mount it and naautilus (gnome file-manager) can burn cds actually11:03
raven3x7nautilus11:03
ompauldave, no idea, but I can tell you that you don't mount blank media11:03
volvoguytristanmike, looks like they may have changed it. their site just offers a linux serial number for purchase now. perhaps i got a promotional thing when it was first released - http://ww2.nero.com/enu/NeroLINUX.html11:03
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gnonthgolmuffin: use a stable verion might help11:03
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tristanmikevolvoguy, you didn't have to go to the trouble, thanx dude :)11:04
davewell gee. i would like to burn a DVD. is this too much to ask?11:04
davei am going to cry. :\11:04
bateauhmm, for some reason i cant watch movies on webpages. what can i do to fix it?11:04
Akbardave or maybe you should try k3b11:04
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davei shall.11:04
robotgeekdave: hang in there, a perfecto linux system was not built in a day :)11:04
Akbarit got nice little menus like win-nero11:04
robotgeekdave: yeah, and k3b is nice. very easy to use!11:04
kemiktristanmike:  just e-mail them and ask, ;)11:04
seliniumbateau: get the mplayer plugin11:04
naliothbrb11:04
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volvoguydave, i missed out on most of your conversation, but k3b is definitely worth the overhead of some KDE stuff loading with it.11:05
bateaui got that ( i belive )11:05
moZerin which package are the kernel headers located?11:05
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moZerdon't say "kernel-headers"11:05
muffin_how do i add subfolders to gnome panels?11:05
davethe conversatrion is, i can't burn a dvd.11:05
Akbaryeah I think k3b is the coolest kde app11:05
seliniumbateau: have you installed the codecs?11:05
daveand i cant find k3b on the GOSH DARNED!!!! gnome menu11:05
robotgeekdave: apt-get install k3b11:05
selinium!tell bateau about codecs11:05
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bateauselinium: yeah. all the codecs the guide told me to :)11:05
davei have done that11:05
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daveand i have refreshed the gnome panel as well11:05
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kemikmoZer:  think you have todo "kernel-headers-$(uname -r)"11:06
robotgeekdave: then just run it from a terminal11:06
Akbardave just run it manually through "run application"11:06
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daveit tells me it cant connect to the x server11:06
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qats1KillerSmurff, now i have sound, but amarok isnt working :p ill have to do some forum search to find the issue11:06
raven3x7dave have yo tried running gnomebaker both as root and non-root?11:06
gnonthgolmuffin: right clikking it and follow the menus11:06
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daveoh, there you go11:06
davei cant run gnomebaker as non root because i cant see my files otherwise11:06
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Akbar;/11:06
daveunless someone can tell me how to mount a drive so it is viisble by users. without using dstab11:06
kemikmoZer:  or not. try "linux-kernel-headers"11:06
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Akbardave use a umask flag..11:07
robotgeekmoZer: apt-get install linux-kernel-header-$(uname -r)11:07
daveumask flag11:07
davethank you very much11:07
volvoguyi just installed hoary on a new (hand-me-down) machine with an nvidia TNT2 Pro card. (which i've used in several other machines). any idea why i'm getting completely garbled text until X loads? (X didn't load this last time and i can't see anything to troubleshoot). :(11:07
davewhat are you talking about11:07
robotgeekmoZer: apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-$(uname -r)11:07
Akbarlol11:07
robotgeekdave: :)11:07
davethis is like comedy hour. why doesn't anything work?11:08
Akbarby setting a umask flag you can make your mounts world-readable11:08
robotgeekdave: it works, just not that way u want it to :)11:08
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daverobotgeek: well, the way i want it to work is, i want the files to get on the CD.11:08
daveDVD, rather11:08
robotgeekdave: did u try k3b?11:09
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davenow.. how do i go about setting this.. umask flag?11:09
davek3b told me i needed some other package./ speaking of which, shouldnt that be automatic?11:09
moZerthx, found linux-headers-`uname -r` eventually11:09
volvoguydave, i'm not at my main machine right now so i can't help troubleshoot, but i've burned DVD's right "out of the box" with gnomebaker.11:09
Oewyngnonthgol: When i did iwconfig it listed the interfaces, and said that all of them had no wireless extensions.11:09
daveright, ill try as soon as i can mount my drive as my user11:09
raven3x7dave yes it should11:09
KillerSmurfcan anyone tell me why kanotix had a different nvidiasetting package with overclocking (using binary driver) than we do?11:09
davewhat is this umask flag11:09
robotgeekdave: u din't say yes?11:09
eliphas_your wireless shold be eth111:09
Oewynlo (i think the loopback) eth0 and sit0 or something like that.11:10
daverobotgeek: say yes to what?11:10
davewhat are you on about11:10
Akbarset your "options" for the mount to umask=00011:10
Akbarit should be world-readable then..11:10
daveAkbar: can i do this through mount, instead of fstab11:10
robotgeekdave: apt-get install k3b , it would ask u to install other packages, (y/N) say yes11:10
Akbardunno11:10
Akbarman mount11:10
Akbar:P11:10
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davei used synaptic11:11
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OewynI went to the devices manager and my wireless card was listed as "Marvell W8300 802.11 Adapter" but under device it said "unknown" and for capabilities: unknown.11:11
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daveit said it was going to install 80 billion packages so i clicked apply11:11
Akbarlol11:11
daveoh yay, man pages11:11
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robotgeekdave: ah okay...yeah, good enuf11:11
raven3x7dave yes although for the syntax you would have to check man mount11:11
davethis is so ridiculous11:11
Akbargoing too fast man11:11
davei bet you this man page was written in 1978 and hasn't been changed since11:11
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zerboxxThe Ubuntu wiki says the WPC54Gver2 isn't working yet, but I'm not sure how up to date that is, does anyone know if its possible to setup?11:12
KillerSmurfi'm fianally getting around to setting up finale 2005 on my wife's machine under linux.  wish me luck11:12
daveit's fifty pages long and nonsensical.11:12
Akbarany reason why you shouldn't set it up through fstab?11:12
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davei guess not. let me go do that then.11:12
raven3x7dave i agree that its rather hard to read11:12
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Akbarok11:12
robotgeeklol11:12
fldave, give me a break. mount(8) is pretty good.11:12
Oewyngnonthgol: any ideas?11:12
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robotgeekyeah, it even has examples :)11:12
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Akbarlol11:13
volvoguydave - mount's man page was last updated in 2004-12-16. :)11:13
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gnonthgolOewyn: It looks to me that eth0 is a normal network card11:13
davei'm sure it was updated.11:13
Newguycould someone please give me the terminal commands for changing permissions on a set of desktop directories so that i may delete them?11:13
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raven3x7fl well yeah but mount itself is complicated11:13
Oewynyeah, it is, eth0 is a NIC11:13
Oewynbuilt into the compo.11:13
robotgeekNewguy: what do u want to delete?11:13
davebut look at the interface of all the mount pages. you have to skim through almost the entire document to find what you're looking for11:14
davethere are no headings11:14
raven3x7Newguy, chown11:14
robotgeekNewguy: alternatively, you can start nautilus as root by doing "sudo nautlius"11:14
flalways the whining about the man pages. Just because people don't read documentation on Windows. I _did_ actually, and was able to point out something interesting in the Indexing behavior, which was perfectly well documented. *Sigh*.11:14
davejust like.. 'command line switches' and then fifty switches and a description for each.11:14
flmaybe I should stop whining myself.11:14
Newguyok thanks, i'll try11:14
robotgeekdave: then how would u prefer it?11:14
gnonthgolOewyn: but you dont have any other network cards showing up in Linux, other than lo, sit0, and eth0?11:14
Akbardave don't you find that handy as hell?11:14
Akbar:P11:14
davechrist. people dont need to read documentation on windows because its easy to use. mind you i could have burned forty DVDs on windows by now11:14
Akbarnot really11:15
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davei would prefer they said "TO ALLOW USERS TO ACCESS DRIVES:  -u" or whatever11:15
Oewyngnonthgol: nope that's why i assumed that it didn't install correctly, and tried to use ndiswrapper...11:15
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Kromonoshi guys11:15
daveor even have both. because this is horribly frustrating. at least provide a search command from within the man program11:15
rwabelhi11:15
fldave, " people dont need to read documentation on windows because its easy to use" is about as far off the mark as I've ever heard it. People who don't read documentation are going to hurt themselves, sooner or later. On whichever platform.11:15
robotgeekdave: "allow to install spyware - click yes to continue"11:15
davedont get me started on spyware11:16
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daveif i'm the only one in the world who hasn't been infected with spyware or a virus in over half a year, i must be a damn proficient user11:16
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daveof windows^11:16
Akbardave it's easy because you already know how this thing works in windows... you actually have to learn something new11:16
fldave, to search in a man page, you could use "/" (a forward slash) to search forward, or a "?" to search backward, if you are displaying it in a terminal11:16
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rwabelI've a strange behaviour in breezy. There is no sound. Under Multimedia Systems Selector I can play it, but I can't hear anything. Has someone an idea?11:16
Newguyok that's no good, basically, i need to change the directory ownership to something that will allow me to delete... i know to use chown, just not "how" to use it11:16
davethat's interesting, thanks.11:16
gnonthgolOewyn: ndiswraper works fine for me, the linux driver didnt find my kernl11:17
daveare there any good alternative GUIs for linux?11:17
davegnome is a pile of crap.11:17
robotgeekdave: someone finally gave u some useful info, heh :)11:17
raven3x7dave you right sp2 is a huge improvement and a little care will make you rather safe.11:17
Akbarrwabel using alsa?11:17
robotgeekdave: please don't start a flmaewar :)11:17
uthiniyou know11:17
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robotgeek*flamewar*11:17
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raphaHi all!11:17
robotgeekrapha: hi11:17
uthiniits kinda hard to make an image of a disk if you only have 30 gb's and the disk is 80gb11:17
seliniumAny bluetooth gurus about?11:17
Oewyngnonthgol: I think the problem is the device driver i'm using with it isn't compatable w/ ndiswrapper, but then again, it might be because i didn't install the ndiswrapper-souce package because it doens't exist on the hoary i386 install.11:18
raven3x7dave there is kde for ubuntu11:18
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rwabelakbar: yes11:18
daveyou dont have to flame anything. it is my humble opinion that gnome is unworkable.11:18
raphaHow do you tell Synaptic to use a specific version of a specific package?11:18
davenamely because of the focus problems11:18
seliniumOr anybody who has got bluetooth connected to anything?11:18
robotgeekdave: i use gnome11:18
Akbarrwabel check to see if your sound isn't muted11:18
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seliniumdave: As do i11:18
raven3x7dave i find kde unworkable personally11:18
rapha(I want to install E17, but the version of E16 is higher, so Synaptic doesn't show E17)11:18
fldave, do you want more clickty-clack or less? More -> KDE. Less -> FWVM.11:18
Akbaror in use by some sound-daemon11:18
robotgeekor openbox/fluxbox!11:18
davewell, in windows, i drag my windows above the top of the screen, just so i can grab them easily later, by reflex.11:19
rwabelakbar: I've also tried with esd and oss...same problem. alsamixer shows me master and PCM full11:19
raven3x7yeah fluxbox rules11:19
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chrismycould anyone help me with errordocument?11:19
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davejust so the titlebar goes above.11:19
ginventAnyone use wine (the emulator... not the drink?)11:19
davein gnome, if you try to do this, you end up resizing the window.11:19
daveit's very funny.11:19
Oewyngnonthgol: I remember reading that the -utils package and -source package were both needed, but the cd didn't have the 2nd on it.11:19
Kromonosso, I've an Intel Brookdale graphics adapter, but with the i810 drivers, I just get a resolution of 640x480. With VESA I got my 1024x768 but it sucks when I close the lid of my laptop :( What can I do?11:19
gnonthgolOewyn: I dont have the source, but are you shure you installed it correct?11:19
davealso, if you try to grab a window's titlebar in a passing sweep, if you do it too quickly, you have a very large chance of missing it.11:19
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monkey89hey - i've gotten w32codecs, gstreamer-0.8-pitldll or whatever it is, and ran the gst update command - what else must I do for totem in breezy to play w32 files?11:20
davethe start menu has given me some trouble too..11:20
Akbarrwabel try shutting off gnome-sounddaemon11:20
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Newguycool, nautilus worked... thank you much... i really like Ubuntu now that I've gotten everything working... i like the very minimal look of Gnome as well... thank11:20
Oewyngnonthgol: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils11:20
robotgeekdave: i don't use my mouse anymore :) all my windows run full screen. sorry, can't help u there!11:20
OewynI even did it through synaptic also and reinstalled it.11:20
daverobotgeek: that's worrying11:20
seliniumdave: in gnome I use the workspace switcher and keep seperate workspaces for different applications11:20
rwabelakbar: how? I mean what is it called to disable it11:20
daveworrying still11:20
Akbara sec11:20
Oewyngnonthgol: when i try to add the inf file, i get 3 lines that say that there are parse errors in the file...11:21
robotgeekdave: try using this method, and maybe u will like it?11:21
raven3x7monkey89, avoid gstreamer and get totem-xine iinstead ;)11:21
davei think if there was a competent GUI developed, that alone would entice many users to switch to linux11:21
emilerwabel, i had some sound trouble too, switching off iec958 capture monitor did the trick for me11:21
Akbargnome-panel -> pref ->sound -> shut off 'enable sound'11:21
benjamin1254is it possab;le to burn a PPC iso on a pc then boot the cd on the PPC?11:21
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gnonthgolOewyn: then you install the win driver on ndiswraper, end insert the ndiswraper into the kernl11:21
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raphamonkey89: I've gone back to totem-xine even in breezy. Just gives you less pain.11:21
seliniumdave: have you used the workspace switcher?11:21
GeoffDeGeoffQuestion: I can no longer play wmv files, it has suddenly stopped working, I have all the relevant files installed. codes etc. Anyone any ideas?11:21
robotgeekdave: a competent gui doesn't make windows sell less than OS X11:21
Kromonoshmm, I think I try the i7xx drivers11:21
raven3x7dave you probably will find kde more to your liking11:21
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rwabelemile: iec958 in alsamixer?11:21
davekde is terrible.11:21
Oewyngnonthgol: by the last part, you mean ndiswrapper -m or modeprobe ndiswrapper?11:22
monkey89rapha, hmm... ill do that if I can't get pitfdll to work, i'd really like it to11:22
Oewynmodprove*11:22
Kromonoskde sucks ;)11:22
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daveby competent gui, i don't mean "throw a bunch of random crap all over the place"11:22
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Oewyner modprobe*11:22
n1xt3rbenjamin125: I don't see why not11:22
robotgeekmonkey89: yeah, totem-xine in breezy works very nicely :)11:22
michaelany podcast client with ubuntu?11:22
raven3x7dave lol11:22
Evil++ all :)11:22
davegnome at least looks better than KDE at first glance. about how well they work, i don't know.11:22
robotgeek!start a wm war11:22
ubotuI don't know, robotgeek11:22
emilerwabel, it in your volume control but you have to set it visible via edit preferences11:22
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benjamin1254kevin W explain ur theory11:23
gnonthgolOewyn: modprobe, but have you tryed drivers to other windows versions?11:23
seliniumdave: have you used the switcher?11:23
robotgeekdave: you would probably have to customize it to work the way it works11:23
robotgeekselinium: i use the switcher with devilspie, very very useful!11:23
uthinican I get the 2.6.3 kernel using apt-get?11:23
daveselinium: i've tried it, ic an't get used to it.11:23
daveit doesn't make any sense to me11:23
dimitrisCan i have multiple dictionaries in openoffice?11:23
malinhey, can anyone help me with quodlibet?11:23
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malini installed it yesterday and it won't work11:24
malini installed it from .tar.gz11:24
dimitrisI want to be able to correct greek and english at the same time? Is that possible?11:24
rwabelemile: strange when I want to open the volume controler nothing happends.11:24
malinwhen i start it, nothing happens11:24
davedimitris: how will you be able to distinguish gree from english?11:24
malini just have python /usr/local/bin/quodlibet process11:24
davedimitris: if you do that, it seems to me that every single word will be spelled wrtong11:25
seliniumdave: you can drag apps of the desktop onto a workspace, or right click the topbar of an xwindow. Then you can click on each workspace when you need it. I found this sooo much better than windows.11:25
malinanyone knows what's wrong?11:25
daveselinium: well, i have mastered the windows interface, it works for me11:25
rwabelemile: how can I start the volume controler from shell?11:25
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emilerwabel, doubleclick should appear in a few seconds not that i'm an expert with one week ubuntu ;-)11:25
n1xt3rbenjamin125: unless there's something about big indian format or byte order that I'm not aware of, the iso should burn as it's intended format11:25
davethe only thing that is lacking is some sort of single-key task switcher11:25
raven3x7dimitris no11:25
michaelpodcast?11:25
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davea replacement for alt-tab11:25
robotgeekn1xt3r: endian?11:25
rwabelemile: well I know it should :-) but it doesn't...must be somehow fucked up11:25
dimitrisdave, well i do it with office in windows. I write greek and english in the same document and i can correct mistakes in both languages11:25
n1xt3rrobotgeek: haha yes11:26
daveok. well then.11:26
seliniumdave: I used to get one page filled up very quickly. This is why you drag it off the screen, with workspaces I can have many screens so no need to drag them out of sight.11:26
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threadwhat's the frickin login?11:26
davethis is so frustrating11:27
PhoenixDPIhi zenlunatic, hi @all11:27
davenow /dev/hda5 is busy11:27
n1xt3rbenjamin125: I admit I haven't tried it myself11:27
davehow could it POSSIBLY BE BUSY11:27
raven3x7dimitris hmm is that a recent option? older versions couldnt do tht if i remember correctly11:27
threadon this hoary livecd... the username is ubuntu11:27
threadpassword??11:27
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anatoleanyone got audioscribbler plugin compiled&working for xmms?11:27
emilerwabel, dunno the command sorry11:27
rwabelok11:28
davehow od you unbusy a drive?11:28
dimitrisraven3x7, i don't think so. I've been using greek and english dictionaries in the same document the same time since Office 97!!!11:28
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n1xt3rbenjamin125: on the flip side I burn iso's for pc's all the time on my ppc11:28
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davewhy is my drive busy?!?!11:28
raven3x7dimitris and correcting documents in both languages simultaneously?11:28
robotgeekdimitris: you might wanna ask at openoffice forums, or irc channel11:28
hushermichael, i'm installing ipodder now11:29
hussamDoes anybody else see this? some ubuntubackports packages appear as local in synaptic.11:29
ginventI need some help setting up wine... anyone use it?11:29
robotgeek!wine11:29
ginvent?11:29
emilerwabel, found it: gnome-volume-control11:29
robotgeekubotu tell ginvent about wine11:29
Akbarginvent yeah I use it for dvdshrink11:29
ginventI can't get it to use the network... it keeps using the 127.0.0.1 loop instead of eth011:30
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dimitrisraven3x7, yes! If i write a sentence in word that is part english and part greek and i make mistakes in both languages the mistakes are underlined and i can right click to correct them (both languages the same time!)11:30
robotgeekginvent: did u "sudo ifup eth0"11:30
raven3x7dave try umount drive and then try to mount it again11:30
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davei cannot UMOUNT THE DRIVE. it's busy11:30
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davei give up.11:31
DekaPinkEr... I'm having a bit of a problem... Kino won't load video files? :311:31
raven3x7kill k3b gnomebaker etc11:31
davenah, i'm going to bed.11:31
ginventYeah robot, it is already configured...11:31
raven3x7lol11:31
davei'll figure this out tomorrow11:31
monkey89totem-xine isn't working either, grr11:31
ginventI have no idea how to get wine to see it though.11:31
davegoodnight folks, i love ya11:31
dave:\11:31
Cheetahfootwhat's the best way to get a rundown of all your system hardware, installed cards, etc. ?11:31
daveCheetahfoot: lspci.. and.. uh11:31
raven3x7dimitris heh i never thought that was possible. btw apo pou?11:32
davethere are some other ones.11:32
robotgeekginvent: did u "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" should get you back on the network11:32
dimitrisraven3x7 I can live with correcting one language at a time :-D How can i change the dictionary language so that i can first check the english part of the document and then the greek part?11:32
phoenixdpi_Cheetahfoot: infobash -v2 or lspci11:32
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Cheetahfootphoenixdpi_: infobash? ok.11:32
Cheetahfootdave: thx11:32
ginventrobot, the computer can see the eth0 no problem... wine can't.11:32
dimitrisraven3x7 Cyprus :-D11:32
phoenixdpi_sry i meant to say infobash -v 211:32
ginventwhen I run a program through wine... it only sees the 127 network.11:32
robotgeekginvent: oh, okay...sorry, i don't use wine, can't help u there :(11:32
Akbarthat's odd11:32
monkey89i get the following error running totem (-xine) in breezy: *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid next size: 0x080b1e00 *** any ideas?11:33
Akbar*yawn*11:34
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zblachanyone here know how to mend wireless networking woes?11:34
raven3x7dimitris, thessaloniki edw. it should be in tools spelcheck somewhere11:34
robotgeekzblach: what woes? i hope not ndiswrapper!11:34
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zblachrobotgeek, nope. it has to do with network detection11:34
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Ignignokthello, i am having some problems finding gstreamer0.8-mad with the synaptic package manager, i cant find that on the list and thus cannot play mp3's can anyone help me???11:35
robotgeekzblach: so, your card is not seeing the AP?11:35
zblachrobotgeek, yes. that is correct11:35
zblachrobotgeek, iwlist wlan0 scan turns up nothing11:35
dimitrisraven3x7 Euxaristw file11:35
robotgeekzblach: which card do u use, and what does dmesg say?11:35
zblachdmesg?11:36
zblachrobotgeek, card: WMP11V27, router WRT54G11:36
malinIgnignokt, try terminal: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad11:36
robotgeekzblach: okay...11:36
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AkbarIgnignokt setup your /etc/apt/sources.list to use the universal repository11:36
zblachrobotgeek, what is dmesg?11:37
Akbaror... universe..11:37
robotgeekzblach: run dmesg in a terminal11:37
zblachcool11:37
zblachit says tons11:37
Ignignoktyar malin your way would work11:37
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robotgeekjust look for the lines with wireless dmesg | less and press space to scroll. see if you can find anything useful :)11:38
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raven3x7goodnight11:38
yaru22What does it mean by 'Totem Movie Player uses gstreamer backend'?11:38
rwabelhow can I get a 2.6.10 kernel in breezy?11:38
robotgeekraven3x7: nite11:39
Ngyaru22: totem is a front end to different multimedia libraries. Either gstreamer or xine11:39
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juanejhey, i have a problem with xfce, i just installed it and my fonts are too small11:39
malini know, Ignignokt, i installed it yesterday :-)11:39
yaru22Ng, what is 'front end'?11:39
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Ngyaru22: the graphical interface that you see and use.11:39
yaru22Ng, oh i c then...11:39
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yaru22Ng, backend means text user interface?11:40
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Ngyaru22: not necessarily, in this case gstreamer is a series of library files that other programs can use to encode/decode/play multimedia files11:40
Ngyaru22: but some graphical front end programs are just talking to text interface programs, for example a lot of cd burning interfaces do that with the cdrecord program11:41
Hikaru79juanej, XFCE uses GTK. Have you tried playing with your GTK theme settings?11:42
yaru22Ng, i c... thank you very much11:42
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seliniumanatole: i am trying to get it running now11:42
ViziriHi - i'm going following the procedure here http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net/ to get my modem working, but an error pops up telling me the program needs gcc-make. Any advice on where to get this program. I'm a newbie11:42
Hikaru79Viziri, sudo apt-get install build-essential11:42
drewfusmy system is having trouble recognizing my extra hard drive, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt11:42
anatoleselinium: you compiled it already?11:42
drewfusi was able to get all the data off but now what?11:42
seliniumTrying to now.11:42
Hikaru79drewfus, what fs?11:43
Viziriok Hikaru7911:43
drewfusright now ntfs11:43
drewfusor nfts i forget11:43
Hikaru79drewfus, Linux's support for NTFS is edgy at best.11:43
anatoleselinium: tell me when you're done with the musicbrainz part.11:43
remyforbes777   has anyone installed ubuntu 64 on an amd laptop11:43
drewfushow do i format?11:43
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anatolethat's where i gave up ;)11:43
Hikaru79First of all, it is read-only, unless you are making write changes that do not affect the file size11:43
seliniumanatole: if i get it done!11:43
Hikaru79drewfus, what do you want to make it? FAT, ext3, reiser?11:43
drewfusi used the read only to copy all the data11:44
drewfuswhatever works best with ubuntu11:44
Hikaru79ext3.11:44
drewfusok11:44
Hikaru79Just use "mkfs.ext3"11:44
Hikaru79I believe that is the name .. can't check, not on Ubuntu at the moment.11:44
drewfususe?11:44
remyforbes777anyone using ubuntu 64 bit11:44
drewfusis that a command or do i look it up online?11:44
gnonthgolcommand11:45
Ngremyforbes777: not on a laptop, but I have used it on desktop machines11:45
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w1nghi11:45
gnonthgolhei11:45
Hikaru79drewfus, it's a command that should already be in your path.11:45
slask3nwhat application is good to make images of CDs?11:45
Ngdrewfus: you need to know which /dev/ file corresponds to the hard drive partition you want to format11:45
w1ngwhich file in linux is similar to the autostart-file in windows?11:45
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remyforbes777Ng: i just bought a compaq laptop amd turion 64 512 MB,11:45
zblachslask3n, you need a camera for that11:45
remyforbes777how did it work for  you11:46
drewfusi typed it in and it just popped up with a bunch of options11:46
slask3nzblach: lol11:46
drewfusok11:46
Hikaru79drewfus, read the options. They tell you what syntax you have to follow.11:46
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w1ngi need to know which file is run when the system is starting up11:46
Blissexslask3n: thatn do you mean with that? To _create_ an image or to _copy_ it off an existing CD?11:46
drewfusanything else i need to know about it?11:46
Hikaru79Although I think just putting the device name of the drive after the command is enough.11:46
Hikaru79(As root, of course)11:46
drewfusyeah11:46
gnonthgolw1ng: Linux dont suport any autostart11:46
Hikaru79Nothign that isn't covered in mkfs.ext3 --help wouldn't cover.11:46
X_tabayho11:46
drewfusok thanks, if that doesnt work ill be back later11:46
Hikaru79=) Okay. Remember, formatting kills all data.11:47
Ngremyforbes777: ok. I switched to the 32bit version so things like flash/games would work more easily, but the 64bit version is fine if you don't care about those, or have a 32bit "chroot" install to run a few things from11:47
Hikaru79So backup.11:47
slask3nBlissex: to create an 1:1 imagefile of an CD11:47
drewfusi did11:47
Blissexslask3n: 'cp'11:47
Hikaru79Goodie.11:47
emileslask3n, i used to use something like this dd if=/dev/cdromdevice of=/tmp/image11:47
gratuitwhat is the next release of ubuntu going to be called?11:47
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Hikaru79gratuit, Breezy Badger11:47
w1nggnonthgol, when the system starts up, there has to be a batch file or something which tells the system which services it has to start11:47
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remyforbes777nah i dont care about flash, i am going to dual boot it with windows anyhow in case I need it11:47
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Ngslask3n: most if not all of the cd burning tools synaptic knows about will be able to do it11:48
remyforbes777i wonder how it will work with my internal wireless11:48
ViziriHikaru79: could u give us that command again ( about gcc  make)11:48
NgBlissex: cp is not going to make a cd image11:48
Hikaru79Viziri, sudo apt-get install build-essential11:48
Vizirithanks!11:48
Hikaru79:) NP.11:48
zblachHikaru79, can you help me fix my network?11:48
gnonthgolw1ng: You put the script in /etc/init.d/ and remember that it have to suport the atrebute start and stop11:48
Hikaru79zblach, I don't know the first thing about wireless networks =(11:48
BlissexNg: yes it is, exactly the same as 'dd'.11:49
w1ngokay, thanks a lot!11:49
Hikaru79I've never had one, or been on one.11:49
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w1nggnonthgol: are the scripts in the init.d startet as root?11:49
NgBlissex: you are assuming that the cd is mounted and purely data?11:49
gnonthgolw1ng: yust look at the existing scripts and use them as a template11:49
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zblachi'm being ignored in #networking, so i'm stuck here for a while11:49
BlissexNg: I asked slask3n if he meant burning or not.11:49
Hikaru79zblach, you might also want to try #linux11:49
NgBlissex: dd or a cd ripping tool will produce an exact cd image, which is what he asked for11:49
gnonthgolw1ng: the last thing started in the boot11:50
jchicowhat does the `.` in front of a command do? like if you were to type ". /usr/bin/appname" what does that do?11:50
Nghe said "1:1"11:50
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BlissexNg: 'dd' and 'cp' do exactly the same thing.11:50
Hikaru79jchico, '.' represents the current directory11:50
Hikaru79Because current dirs are not in your path by default11:50
NgBlissex: please tell me how you expect cp to do it11:50
slask3nNg: I know kb can create .ISO-files, but thats KDE and i try too use most gnome-apps like gnomebaker, but gnomebaker seems like it doesnt have the functionality of making ISO-images. And most burning-apps dont make 1:1 copies either11:50
BlissexNg: cp /dev/cdrom /tmp/cdrom.img11:50
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Hikaru79So if you have a script in your current dir called 'test' but your current dir is not in your path, runnign 'test' will not wrok11:50
Hikaru79However, running './test' will.11:50
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jchicooh but I thought it had to be written like "./blah/blah" so you can also write it like ". /blah/blah" ?11:51
warkozdfgdfgfdg11:51
Hikaru79jchico, no space...11:51
Hikaru79But yes11:51
slask3nBlissex: How the f*** do you mean you can copy the contents of an copyprotected game and run it afterwards?? Pkease be serious or go to bed!11:51
jchicothanks Hikaru79, maybe I'm just reading the command wrong...11:51
Hikaru79If you are in "/home/jchico" and there is a script there named myScript, then './myScript' is equivalent to writing out '/home/jchico/myScript'11:51
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Hikaru79That's what './configure' is :) Running the 'configure' script in the current dir.11:52
NgBlissex: my apologies, I've never noticed that before, I figured that would just copy the device file11:52
slask3nNg: i ment k3b, but i need some app like clonecd or blindwrite just for linux.. these apps makes 1:1 sopies but is for windows only11:52
Ngslask3n: I'm not sure, I just use dd ;)11:52
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Hikaru79There's a security-related reason why '.' is not in the path by default, so we just have to live with it =P11:52
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yoko-mocan anyone help me with a problem?11:52
juanejhey, i have a problem with xfce, i just installed it and my fonts are too small11:52
slask3nNg: ok11:52
neighborleedoes anyone know if there is any decision as to whether or not to integrate admin and preferences menu structure into one  control panel ?? ( or some form thereof)11:52
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emilethere's nothing wrong with double-d dd ;-)11:53
yoko-mowhen ubuntu boots, the mouse cursor is fine, then after running a while or something, the cursors all turn black11:53
Blissexslask3n: making a 1:1 CD copy in the general case is _impossible_. In the case of simple data discs it is possible, in the case of audio discs it is very difficult, in the case of copy-protected games one needs special applications and special drives...11:53
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yoko-moI am running gnome11:53
volvoguyi have 2 hard drives doing RAID0 that are on the same IDE bus. can i move one to the other ide bus without killing the array? (it'll still be /dev/hdb right?)11:53
slask3nNg, Blissex, emile: dd and cp just copies the files on the disc, i need to have an 1:1 copy of the disc including the subchannels11:53
maan84Excuse me, I mounted an *.img file to /home/maan84/Movies/ before with mount -o loop filename mntdir , um dumb question, but how do I unmount it? :)11:53
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Blissexmaan84: 'umount <mountpoint>'11:54
Blissexvolvoguy: yes.11:54
zer0or umount <device>11:54
maan84Blissex, thank you11:55
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volvoguyBlissex, thanks. :) i'm really impressed with the performance even on the same bus. i'm sure it'll even be a little better on a separate bus. i'm gonna go play. be back in a bit.11:55
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|Imp|i can't get java working11:55
|Imp|am i missing something?11:55
maan84It says device is busy, can I make it not busy in another way than rebooting? :)11:55
Blissexvolvoguy: on the same bus is not that good an idea, but it still works.11:55
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emile|Imp|, jre?11:55
Blissexmaan84: not device, but mountpoint...11:55
Seveas|Imp|, what did you try?11:55
|Imp|emile, yes11:56
|Imp|i tried apt-get like ubuntuguide11:56
emilei saw in the wiki it was broken as of 24 august11:56
slask3nBlissex: Please go to bed! 1:1 copies ar n_NOT_ impossible! Yes you need special apps like CloneCD or Blindwrite or similar, yes. But you can use every CD-ROM of newer era to do it11:56
|Imp|it said package not found11:56
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maan84Blissex, I wrote sudo umount /home/maan84/Movies/ and it said umount: /home/maan84/Movies: device is busy11:56
Seveas|Imp|, ubuntuguide is bad11:56
Seveasand hoary-extras no longer has java11:56
Blissexmaan84: if there is any process/program, including a file explorer like nautilus, which has got files or directories open under the mountpoint.11:56
|Imp|Seveas, what do you recomend?11:56
emile|Imp|, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:56
volvoguyBlissex, yeah. i know. i was having problems getting it to work at all with the cdrom on the second bus also though. now that ubuntu is installed, i don't need that cdrom drive anymore. :)11:56
Seveasbuild a .deb yourself (it's not too hard) or grab one from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl11:57
seliniumHi all, anyone want to help me through my first compile? I am getting some errors. :D11:57
Blissexselinium: join #C for example11:57
Seveasselinium, errors at the pastebin please :)11:57
SeveasBlissex, the first errors are usually ubuntu-specific11:57
Seveaslike missing packages :)11:57
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Blissexmaan84: you can discover which processes are keeping a directory CD'ed or a file open using 'lsof' or 'fuser'11:58
Kromonosre11:58
maan84Blissex, I can't find a process using it (I think) :) Though I find filename.img /home/maan84/Movies Udf under devices in the system monitor11:58
maan84Blissex,11:58
whyameyeanybody know anything about adding menu items to Gnome? I've been trying SMEG with no success...11:58
maan84ok ill try that :)11:58
Kromonosso, i'm now using the right driver, but my keyboard is wrong :(11:58
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Blissexwhyameye: ask direct questions, not ''anyone'' questions, and the answer is: probably someone in #GNOME :-)11:59
Kromonosi can't using the shift key :(11:59
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seliniumSeveas: Here you go! http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1621  :)11:59
fourcheezeanyone got real player 10 running on ubuntu?11:59
whyameyeBlissex, my question is direct: how do you add menu items in Gnome?11:59
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fourcheezeor does anyone have a link to download realplayer 8/9 ?11:59
Blissexwhyameye: no, _this_ question is direct, and the answer is still: better to ask in #GNOME :-)11:59
maan84Blissex, great it worked! Thanks :) it found gam_serve using it, is kill PID the best way to end the process? *new* :)12:00

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