[12:00] <Seveas> sure lilldude but I don;t know what the debian cds look like...
[12:00] <alllanon> i used to support those.
[12:00] <jyeh> but I'm having trouble installing the wireless card
[12:00] <Seveas> !wifi
[12:00] <ubotu> hmm... wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:00] <lilldude> there are 14 of em to check
[12:00] <Seveas> ^-- Jhair
[12:00] <Seveas> jhey*
[12:00] <jyeh> yeah I found the wifi card
[12:00] <jyeh> it's a realtek
[12:00] <dalamar> alllanon, yeah I know not great thats why I asked if it was a bad burner ;/ though dma worked in win, which isnt saying much heh
[12:00] <jyeh> tried the realtek linux driver
[12:00] <jyeh> didn't work
[12:00] <jyeh> tried the ndiswrapper
[12:01] <jyeh> didint' work
[12:01] <lilldude> il go  figure it it out i guess
[12:01] <alllanon> dalamar: if it worked in win, it should work in linux too :\
[12:01] <lilldude> some should  no in debian or another spot
[12:01] <lilldude> thanks
[12:01] <dalamar> alllanon, yeah thats what I thought was strange, I'm really clueless ;/ its still usable, all I use it for is burning but it literally goes at 2x without dma heh
[12:01] <sponge008> When I try to run "ndiswrapper" the terminal flashes and disappears
[12:01] <sponge008> any ideas?
[12:01] <jyeh> find another opensource driver for the realtek card
[12:02] <jyeh> but I'm having trouble compiling it.
[12:02] <Lever> Is ubuntuforums.org down?
[12:02] <derFlo> jyeh: tried driverloader?
[12:02] <jyeh> yeah, I think ubuntuforums.org is down
[12:02] <FiRez> Lever yes
[12:02] <Lever> Bah, humbug.
[12:02] <alllanon> dalamar: you know what motherboard you have?
[12:03] <jyeh> what is driverloader?
[12:03] <jyeh> is it already installed on base ubuntu installation?
[12:03] <Seveas> ndiswrapper lookalike :)
[12:03] <Seveas> and it costs money afaik
[12:04] <alllanon> dalamar: oh, try to tail the syslog in one terminal, and switch to dma in another. maybe you get some output before it locks up.
[12:04] <dalamar> alllanon, sure, just got it recently, its a gigabyte 7vt600p-rz
[12:04] <jyeh> ndiswrapper seemed to work
[12:04] <codecaine> Seveas, i tried googling CAPAB IDENTIFY-MSG to find out info on it, nothing came up, could you help out?
[12:04] <jyeh> but when I iwconfig
[12:04] <DekaPink> Huh... Know how the screen is brown after you log in? How do I change that?
[12:05] <jyeh> it says "no wirless extensions"
[12:05] <Digi> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[12:05] <jyeh> yeah forums is down
[12:05] <vonMiffentrop> Am I doing something wrong, or is sun-j2re1.5 removed from all repositories? I've followed the guide on http://www.ubuntuguide.org, but I just get "E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5" (yes, I've done apt-get update)
[12:05] <jyeh> btw, anyone know what sit0 is?  what kind of interface is that?
[12:05] <P8ntKid> How do i install WINE with ubuntu?
[12:05] <esc> I got ndiswrapper [finally]  working last night
[12:05] <Jowi> DekaPink: sudo gdmconfig, standard greeter. there is a background colour option
[12:05] <juanej> how do i replace nautilius with rox-filer???
[12:06] <Seveas> codecaine, ehm, give me some context please...
[12:06] <Digi> dekapink- right click on the desktop and say change desktop
[12:06] <kemik> !wine
[12:06] <derFlo> why does apt-get say, it can't check some packages? does it has something to do with the gnupg keys?
[12:06] <codecaine> Seveas, under why register my nick for freenode FAQ's
[12:06] <Jowi> juanej: no need to replace it. just use rox instead. why do you need to replace it?
[12:06] <alllanon> dalamar: also, you can try using the -x switch to select WHICH dma mode you want.
[12:06] <derFlo> I can install them , it's a warning
[12:07] <juanej> Jowi, im moving to xfce
[12:07] <kemik> Seveas:  the default for uboto is to PM noW ?
[12:07] <alllanon> dalamar: i saw a guy who had to set it manually with -t1 -x69 to avoid freeze.
[12:07] <juanej> and i like rox-file to draw desktop icons
[12:07] <P8ntKid> kemik, The ubuntu forums are down for me...
[12:07] <DekaPink> Jowi: Thanks. :D
[12:07] <codecaine> Anyone in here use x-chat?
[12:07] <esc> vonMifferntrop - some of the repos seem to be broken - I had to install java last night & it didnt work (same story as you). someone gave me the correct url to wget
[12:07] <decaf> codecaine: too many people
[12:07] <kemik> P8ntKid:  wait for them to come online then perhaps ;)
[12:07] <derFlo> yes
[12:07] <Jowi> juanej: i moved to oroborus. i only use rox myself - love it
[12:08] <codecaine> decaf, i'm trying to figure out what the names in the nick list mean when they're greyed out?
[12:08] <Digi> esc- you don't have that url anymore :-/ ?
[12:08] <dalamar> alllanon, ugh, that -x looks sketchy, I don't want to break it heh
[12:08] <Digi> too many people too many problems
[12:08] <juanej> Jowi, there is a how to on ubuntuforums but the site is down
[12:08] <decaf> codecaine: they marked themselves away. try "/away"
[12:08] <codecaine> decaf, agh they're away ok thx
[12:08] <alllanon> dalamar: http://axljab.homelinux.org/Hdparm#Xfer_mode_.28PIO.2FSDMA.2FMDMA.2FUDMA.29_-X
[12:08] <Seveas> codecaine, dunno about the CAPAB thing
[12:08] <codecaine> Seveas, thx anyways
[12:08] <RockFoo> Can someone help me install ATI's driver for the radeon cards?
[12:09] <esc> digi - no unfortunately I do not - I had logging turned off
[12:09] <esc> someone else might know
[12:09] <alllanon> I think of buying AMD64... just afraid of problems. I would be devastated if Enemy Territory didn't run anymore.
[12:09] <mindmedic> !restricted
[12:09] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:09] <codecaine> Seveas, did you see what i meant though?
[12:09] <Jowi> juanej: ah ok. well, what do you mean by "replace" then? just put a shortcut for rox-filer in xfce. should be the easiest solution....
[12:09] <Seveas> yes
[12:09] <alllanon> !warez
[12:09] <ubotu> I don't know, alllanon
[12:09] <alllanon> bummer.
[12:09] <RockFoo> !ati
[12:09] <ubotu> I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:10] <juanej> jowi nautilius is the default icon drawer
[12:10] <juanej> i mean, desktop icons are there because of nautilius
[12:10] <RockFoo> Can anyone help me with an ATI Radeon card install?
[12:10] <RockFoo> I've tried all the guides I could find
[12:10] <juanej> and with apps like conky (torsmo) it doesnt work very well
[12:10] <vonMiffentrop> how great.. a lot of people are having the same problem, there is a little-known solution, but the source is offline :( And I need Java by tomorrow
[12:10] <mindmedic> RockFoo, this one too? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:11] <dalamar> alllanon, good link thanks, im going to fiddle awhile which will most likely lock it at some point so thanks for all the help ;)
[12:11] <Jowi> juanej: ah if you uninstall nautilus you mean?
[12:11] <RockFoo> yeah Mindmedic
[12:11] <RockFoo> I tried that
[12:11] <codecaine> !resolution
[12:11] <alllanon> dalamar: np
[12:11] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:11] <CookedGryphon> vonMiffentrop, you can dl a java self extracting from www.java.com
[12:11] <juanej> yes jowi
[12:12] <CookedGryphon> and install that rather than go thru the package
[12:12] <mindmedic> RockFoo, where did you get stuck, or what is your problem?
[12:12] <Seveas> CookedGryphon, don't give crappy advise please
[12:12] <Seveas> vonMiffentrop, java debs can be found at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:12] <Jowi> juanej: haven't thought about that since i just leave nautilus installed even though i never use it. i didn't know they were linked. if you find out how, please let me know. quite interesting
[12:12] <RockFoo> Well I get the drivers all installed mindmedic but when I switch the ati to fglxr in the driver setting and reboot X won't start up
[12:12] <CookedGryphon> oh fine, i'll jsut bugger off then
[12:12] <Seveas> RockFoo, you need to change more than that
[12:12] <asfra> is there an easy way to connect a computer to the internet throught another when the computers are connected directly with a cabel?
[12:13] <Seveas> asfra, yes
[12:13] <mindmedic> the xorg.conf driver setting?
[12:13] <Seveas> internet connection sharing
[12:13] <RockFoo> yes
[12:13] <asfra> Seveas: sounds good! what is the magic?
[12:13] <mindmedic> and does x give you an error message?
[12:13] <hardw1re> has anyone else experienced problems with hl2/css on ubuntu when they compile the latest / any nvidia drivers instead of using the apt packaged versions?
[12:13] <Seveas> windows has such a thing built in somewhere, in ubuntu firestarter can do it
[12:13] <derFlo> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn' t be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90 7
[12:13] <RockFoo> says that a display cannot be found
[12:13] <RockFoo> something along those lines
[12:13] <Seveas> and only the pc that is connected directly to the internet should have it setup
[12:14] <Seveas> derFlo, do NOT use marillat with hoary...
[12:14] <alllanon> asfra: go to start, control panel, internet connections, select "LAN Connection" (The one used for internet), right-click, properties, Enable ICS.
[12:14] <derFlo> Seveas: ok
[12:14] <puff> the touchpad is made by synaptics.  There is a rather powerfull driver for them available for xfree/xorg.  Ubuntu comes with it, althoug\h it's in a separate package.  There is also a command-line configuration program, and those configs can be put into XF86Config/xorg.con\f.the touchpad is made by synaptics.  There is a rather powerfull driver for them available for xfree/xorg.  Ubuntu comes with it, althoug\h it's in a separat
[12:14] <puff> e package.  There is also a command-line configuration program, and those configs can be put into XF86Config/xorg.con\f.the touchpad is made by synaptics.  There is a rather powerfull driver for them available for xfree/xorg.  Ubuntu comes with it, althoug\h it's in a separate package.  There is also a command-line configuration program, and those configs can be put into XF86Config/xorg.con\f.the touchpad is made by synaptics.
[12:14] <puff> There is a rather powerfull driver for them available for xfree/xorg.  Ubuntu comes with it, althoug\h it's in a separate package.  There is also a command-line configuration program, and those configs can be put into XF86Config/xorg.con\f.
[12:14] <codecaine> Seveas, think you hurt gryphons feelilngs man
[12:14] <RockFoo> as soon as I switch it back to ati though in xorg.conf it's ok minus 3d accel
[12:14] <dalamar> jeez whats the deal today
[12:14] <asfra> alllanon: that didn't sound like gnome :)
[12:15] <Seveas> jeez, what's with all the stupid pasters today...
[12:15] <alllanon> asfra: uh, no, that was.. some other OS.
[12:15] <dalamar> alllanon, aha, the drive only supports up to udma2, ie -X66 which I've set it to and am trying to burn a disc now to see if it will work all the way through
[12:15] <alllanon> if all the man hours spent by linux users to get ATI cards working instead were used to mowe lawns or showel snow, they would have enough money to buy nvidia and open source their drivers.
[12:16] <RockFoo> any ideas mindmedic?
[12:16] <ompaul> Seveas, they want to take you to 'ubuntu court' :-)
[12:16] <alllanon> dalamar: nice, progress :)
[12:16] <Seveas> ompaul, *g* don't read too much sounder :)
[12:16] <mindmedic> RockFoo, you could give the ati config tool a try
[12:16] <vonMiffentrop> Seveas: thanks a lot :)
[12:16] <ompaul> Seveas, hehehe
[12:16] <dalamar> alllanon, yes, thanks ;)
[12:16] <RockFoo> how do I use that?
[12:17] <mindmedic> i think it was called fglrx_config or something? an ATI user here who can confirm that?
[12:17] <kemik> fglrx-config
[12:17] <mindmedic> thx
[12:17] <kemik> no
[12:17] <durt> breezy install successful :)
[12:18] <kemik> without the -
[12:18] <kemik> fglrxconifg
[12:18] <alllanon> durt: nice?
[12:18] <codecaine> durt, how's it so far?
[12:18] <durt> dont know yet just rebooted
[12:18] <ompaul> Seveas, in all honesty I found that very funny when I read it - after all you said three - mak0 the man with four letters who was the third yourself? cos sure as hell it was not your irc buddy :)
[12:18] <ofer0> hi, i want to change my IP in the ethernet. how do i do it?
[12:18] <mindmedic> RockFoo, try the fglrxconfig tool.. but back up your old xorg.conf first
[12:19] <kemik> ofer0:  ifconfig
[12:19] <Seveas> ompaul, actually, there are 3 or four other people who disliked my actions in here (I banned them for disrupting the atmosphere) and the kept on threatening me
[12:19] <Jowi> ofer0: if you are connected to a router and get ip from it - you do it in the router settings.
[12:19] <Seveas> one of them started annoying #ubuntu-devel
[12:19] <alllanon> ofer0: you will need a needle, a cigarette lighter to heat it with, and towels. lots of towels.
[12:19] <Seveas> another started annoying other people in the channel
[12:19] <asfra> Seveas: did you mean that firestarter can help me connect another computer to the internet? isn't that just a firewall?
[12:19] <ompaul> Seveas, how to win friends and influence people
[12:19] <alllanon> no, sorry, i thought you ment changing the mac address.
[12:19] <Seveas> ompaul, *g*
[12:20] <Seveas> asfra, firestarter can do that too :)
[12:20] <Jowi> ofer0: if you have a static ip - try: sudo network-admin
[12:20] <ofer0> ok thanx all.
[12:20] <alllanon> np.
[12:20] <Seveas> anyway, gotta get some sleep now
[12:20] <asfra> Seveas: great, then I've got myself a firewall aswell :)
[12:20] <dalamar> SDMA MDMA UDMA, which is fastest? UDMA?
[12:20] <Seveas> vya all tomorrow
[12:20] <Seveas> cya*
[12:20] <ompaul> Seveas, if you ever come to Dublin remind me to buy you your poison
[12:20] <alllanon> MDMA is ecstacy. I would go for UDMA.
[12:20] <Jowi> cu Seveas
[12:20] <esc> mdma is my favorite
[12:20] <derFlo> Seve: I can help you with a pasting
[12:21] <derFlo> eg: a dpkg -l
[12:21] <asfra> Seveas; and only one of the machines needed it? good night by the way :)
[12:21] <dalamar> lol well theres a computer mdma to apparently ;)
[12:21] <alllanon> well, afaik, udma is the fastest.
[12:21] <ompaul> dalamar, there is, but like all drugs it is bad for you, and can lead to nasty viruses
[12:22] <sorush20> hi..
[12:22] <sorush20> :-$
[12:22] <sorush20> hi
[12:22] <alllanon> asfra: i would assume firestarter will just offer a static or dynamic connection to the other pc then.
[12:22] <Jowi> hi sorush20
[12:22] <dalamar> hmm well with the udma setting as high as the drive supports, k3b is burning faster but nowhere near 8x .. maybe need to look into a better quality drive that supports high udma settings
[12:22] <sorush20> what is a pdf viewer for mozilla.. except tha acroread
[12:22] <asfra> alllanon: yeah, should work...
[12:23] <Loevborg> is there any reason why suspend-to-disk in breezy doesn't even try to resume?
[12:23] <ompaul> dalamar, is the supply side drive and the burner on the same ide by any chance?
[12:23] <alllanon> dalamar: wait, 8x DVD or CD?
[12:23] <dalamar> alllanon, dvd
[12:23] <dalamar> ompaul, yessir, same channel
[12:23] <alllanon> that IS quite fast. both source and target on same cable could slow it down that much.
[12:23] <Loevborg> it doesn't poweroff on suspend, either.
[12:24] <dalamar> lemme guess same cable is not good?
[12:24] <ompaul> dalamar, well now when you share a bus with the source and destination you are asking to loose bandwidth on the ide channel
[12:24] <alllanon> i would put the dvd writer as master on the other cable.
[12:24] <dalamar> because I only have one hdd and one burner
[12:24] <ompaul> dalamar, I suppose, in a word, to be exact, yes
[12:24] <Jowi> dalamar: a burner should be secondary master
[12:25] <apokryphos> Seveas: hi :)
[12:25] <dalamar> I will look into this for sure tonight then, will this have any bad effets on my ubuntu config or will hotplug find everything right?
[12:25] <alllanon> then again... if he got better performance in windows with the same setup... then it probably is not it.
[12:25] <alllanon> dalamar: no bad effect.
[12:25] <alllanon> dalamar: maybe reconfigure K3b.
[12:25] <ompaul> apokryphos,  Seveas cya*
[12:25] <alllanon> will be /dev/hdb1, I guess.
[12:25] <dalamar> alllanon, honestly I never used a program that showed my burn speed so I can't compare to windows
[12:25] <asfra> a crossover cable is the one where the colours are mixed in the plug right?
[12:26] <ompaul> apokryphos, about 5 mins ago
[12:26] <malin> gnite people
[12:26] <alllanon> asfra: yep
[12:27] <dalamar> with udma set to its highest right now and everything on same cable I'm getting about 3x for a dvd
[12:27] <asfra> alllanon: thanks again!
[12:28] <dalamar> anyone have a clue on what kind of performance gain I might expect from using seperate ide channels for drive and hdd?
[12:28] <alllanon> dalamar: actually, that could also be the media.
[12:28] <dalamar> tdk .. is that crap? haven't ever burned a coaster
[12:28] <durt> breezy seems to work alright... must configure now
[12:28] <dalamar> dvd-r
[12:29] <knowledge_> My current ubuntu install is on a 10 gig drive, (laptop)...I want to move it to my 60 gig, how can I do that?
[12:29] <alllanon> tdk: don't know about the one you have, but e.g. plextor drives will first try to determine quality of the media, then adjust the speed accordingly.
[12:29] <knowledge_> well I mean how can I move my home partition without any sort of problems
[12:29] <alllanon> verbatim will often burn on faster speeds than what is specified on the disc :}
[12:29] <alllanon> uh. dalamar, not tdk.
[12:30] <adam_> lol;
[12:30] <vader1102> partimage then expand the space
[12:30] <knowledge_> vader1102: that's a reply to me?
[12:30] <vader1102> yes
[12:30] <alllanon> i used to work on a helpdesk for all those companies. it is all crap, all oem, and everyone is blaming someone else :\
[12:31] <vader1102> that will copy the entire disk then just expend the home
[12:31] <knowledge_> that sounds nice and complicated, I can only fit one drive at a time in my laptop
[12:31] <alllanon> ompaul: you mean installing archlinux?
[12:31] <dalamar> alllanon, well price isnt an issue, if a certain disk will make it burn faster I'm all ears .. whats a real good burner in your opinion that -isnt- crap, good linux support?
[12:31] <ompaul> alllanon, no I mean rebuilding my ubuntu because I did a few things I did not mean to :-/
[12:32] <vader1102> partimage runs off of CD and if you have an external hdd, put the image on it
[12:32] <Jowi> knowledge_: a normal copy should be fine: cp -r -p /home /mountforseconddrive. after that you need to change fstab to point to your new /home. (-p in cp preserves all permissions)
[12:32] <alllanon> ompaul: yes, bad joke :] 
[12:32] <alllanon> dalamar: good media is verbatim.  but burner is a bit harder...
[12:32] <knowledge_> Jowi: yeah, but there is no way of doing that on my laptop
[12:32] <ompaul> alllanon, one of them was a rather silly thing to do with backports which in and of themselves are not evil but are very close :-)
[12:32] <jamie> wow... lot's of people in here, yes?
[12:33] <alllanon> dalamar: all ide drives should work equally fine on linux.  Earlier I would recommend plextor, but now...
[12:33] <dalamar> alllanon, btw, the burner wasn't oem but it is a memorex so heh .. they're not exactly known for hardware
[12:33] <adam_> 493 on this channel
[12:33] <ompaul> jamie, if you consider 493 in a channel a lot yes :)
[12:33] <alllanon> dalamar: you think memorex made the drive themselves? I doubt it very very much :9
[12:33] <alllanon> :}
[12:33] <jamie> have you seen more on a channel ompaul?
[12:33] <ompaul> jamie, yes
[12:33] <Jowi> knowledge_: if you can not copy your homedirectory how would you imagine to move it?
[12:34] <dalamar> alllanon, yeah, well I won't try to pronounce the name of the generic japanese company that probably DID make it lol
[12:34] <knowledge_> I have a windows desktop with a lot of room
[12:34] <jamie> knowledge_... I HATE windows
[12:34] <Jowi> knowledge_: ah so you can copy the homedir over the network
[12:34] <alllanon> even Philips, which oftren have very good burners, sometimes repack something they have licensed.
[12:34] <knowledge_> jamie: the 60 gig used to be dedicated to windows...not anymoorrreeee
[12:34] <alllanon> Benq and Philips both OEM'ed eachother, I think.
[12:35] <ompaul> knowledge_, why do you think you need windows?
[12:35] <knowledge_> Jowi: I guess I should have asked that first...that'll work? I mean there isn't any sort of problems in doing so?
[12:35] <jamie> everyone, brb
[12:35] <alllanon> NEC might be a good choice. Never used it myself, but people that seems to be into burners usually speak well of them.
[12:35] <benkong2> ndiswrapper says you must have a link to "ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build" I have sources for 2.6.10 kernel but now I want to use the 2.6.10-k7 kernel and there is no build subdir. What do I do now?
[12:35] <Jowi> knowledge_: easiest way of doing it = create a ext3 partition on the desktop HDD. copy the files over the network with either ssh or samba.
[12:35] <knowledge_> ompaul: I know I don't, I oficially announced that my laptop (My computer) will no longer run windows.....ever
[12:36] <iotc247> Anyone know why Ubuntuforums.org isnt loading for me?
[12:36] <knowledge_> Jowi: I see
[12:36] <alllanon> of course, the warranty service of Plextor (in Europe, anyway) is very good, you don't even have to leave the house.... but no, still, i will not recommend plextor.
[12:36] <Jowi> knowledge_: you want to preserve the attributes on the files (owner, group, permissions etc)
[12:36] <dalamar> alllanon, I guess I'll just do some googling and look at reviews for burners and linux, it works for now and speed is the only issue now heh, other things higher on the list like bigger hdd and more ram ;)
[12:36] <knowledge_> Jowi: that's why I need the ext3 partition?
[12:37] <Jowi> knowledge_: yes. fat32 can not hold any of those details.
[12:37] <knowledge_> NTFS?
[12:37] <Kyral> You can't write to NTFS :P
[12:37] <iotc247> Ah did anyone just answer as to why ubuntuforums isnt loading? I accidently closed out gaim..
[12:37] <Jowi> not compatible as far as i know
[12:37] <ompaul> knowledge_, great
[12:37] <alllanon> dalamar: http://club.cdfreaks.com/ - there you will find people with sKiLLZ :)
[12:37] <knowledge_> Kyral: I've done it
[12:37] <Kyral> Whats he trying to do again?
[12:37] <iotc247> Yeah the kernel doesnt support anything but overwriting current files.
[12:37] <dalamar> alllanon, thanks ;)
[12:37] <Kyral> Under Linux I mean :P
[12:37] <Kyral> I mean, any STABLE way :P
[12:38] <knowledge_> Kyral: my current ubuntu install is on a 10 gig, I want to move it to a 60 gig which used to be windows...(now formatted)....I'm trying to do it without having any problems moving my /home dir
[12:38] <Kyral> easy
[12:38] <knowledge_> and this is on a laptop
[12:38] <knowledge_> not so easy
[12:38] <Kyral> wait, can you exchange data between the drives?
[12:39] <Kyral> ie, fire up a LiveCD?
[12:39] <knowledge_> unless I can't think of it
[12:39] <knowledge_> which is most likely the case
[12:39] <iotc247> Anyone here can tell me if the ubuntuforums are down? They are loading so slow I finally just got the title to display...
[12:39] <knowledge_> Kyral: nope, only one drive at a time on my laptop
[12:39] <Kyral> ick
[12:39] <ompaul> knowledge_, how much stuff is in your home partition [df -h <-- will tell u] 
[12:39] <knowledge_> and only one IDE connector on my desktop
[12:39] <Kyral> I'd backup /home to CDs
[12:39] <ompaul> knowledge_, for get that
[12:39] <crube> When I have no ral problems I make them. I like my desktop Res higher than I'm able to run my games, but my xserver randomly crashes becouse of the Res change when starting or closing the game :/
[12:40] <ompaul> knowledge_, cd /home; du -h and wait for it to run
[12:40] <knowledge_> ompaul: home has 2.6Gigs
[12:40] <Kyral> or get an external inclosure for the second drive
[12:40] <Kyral> and connect it via Firewire or USB (preferably Firewire)
[12:41] <vader1102> or USB 2.0 pcmcia card
[12:41] <dalamar> burn it to a dvd! ;)
[12:41] <pfp> knowledge_: how about putting both 2.5" drives into the desktop machine, you'd only need two cheap laptop->desktop ide adapters
[12:41] <knowledge_> pfp: only one ide controller on my desktop (it's a mini pc....was gonna use it for the car)
[12:41] <Kyral> hmm, I should get one of those and rip the 30 GB outta my old laptop :P
[12:42] <pfp> knowledge_: jumper the 2nd drive as a slave?
[12:42] <knowledge_> oh wait...I'm a dipshit
[12:42] <knowledge_> I don't need my cdrom for it
[12:42] <knowledge_> !
[12:42] <ubotu> knowledge_: Are you on ritalin?
[12:42] <knowledge_> duhhh
[12:42] <dalamar> haha
[12:42] <Kyral> lol
[12:42] <Kyral> !lart ubotu
[12:42] <Kyral> HAH!
[12:42] <pfp> heh
[12:42] <knowledge_> why would the bot say that?.....typing to much?
[12:43] <iotc247> *Is pissed that forums wont load*
[12:43] <Kyral> no, you did a !
[12:43] <knowledge_> oh
[12:43] <Kyral> thats a preface to an Ubotu command
[12:43] <knowledge_> I see
[12:43] <dalamar> !botsnack
[12:43] <ubotu> thanks dalamar :)
[12:43] <Kyral> !java
[12:43] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:43] <ompaul> !ubotu
[12:43] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:44] <bina> woo
[12:44] <dalamar> ubotu your the coolest!
[12:44] <ubotu> dalamar: I don't know
[12:44] <dalamar> oh im sure
[12:44] <Kyral> !anyone
[12:44] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:44] <iotc247> Since no one seemed to answer I will ask again, are the ubuntuforums down? they are not loading for me.
[12:44] <knowledge_> hmmm.....so install ubuntu on my laptop....put both the drives in the desktop, boot a live cd...and copy the directory?
[12:44] <Kyral> iotc247, no clue
[12:44] <dalamar> yes they are down
[12:45] <ompaul> knowledge_, if you have the space and the wire go for it
[12:45] <iotc247> Great... When is colony 3 going up? thats why I tried to get to them.. Im installing it again since I think I fixed my stupid dvd drive to boot properly...
[12:45] <dracflamloc> anyone have any knowledge of how to get an ALPS touchpad to work in ubuntu?
[12:45] <knowledge_> ompaul: well I'm going to install on the 60, while it's on my laptop, then take both the drives, and boot live...then transfer...that'll work?
[12:45] <Kyral> !start an irc client war
[12:45] <ubotu> xchat is better than gaim !
[12:45] <apokryphos> iotc247: going *up*?
[12:46] <dalamar> xchat is the spiff.
[12:46] <iotc247> You know available on the ftp server..
[12:46] <apokryphos> iotc247: it's been available for some time
[12:46] <apokryphos> iotc247: see /topic
[12:46] <dracflamloc> anyone?
[12:46] <dracflamloc> are ubuntuforums down?
[12:46] <apokryphos> yes
[12:46] <Kyral> yes
[12:46] <Stormx> I LOVE UNUNTU <3 <3 <3
[12:46] <iotc247> http://us.cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-3/ Gives The requested URL /cdimage/releases/breezy/colony-3/ was not found on this server.
[12:46] <knowledge_> dracflamloc: are you talking about the features? or the actual pad?
[12:47] <dracflamloc> the actual pad
[12:47] <dracflamloc> my laptop the touchpad doesnt work
[12:47] <martin> Question: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?
[12:47] <ompaul> knowledge_, but I would actually bzip the contents into a single file and see if it gets nice and small
[12:47] <apokryphos> iotc247: hm, interesting.
[12:47] <ompaul> knowledge_, you might be able to put it all on one CD
[12:47] <apokryphos> iotc247: it's been taken down, apparently. I wonder why.
[12:47] <knowledge_> dracflamloc: should work by default, mine did on my dell
[12:47] <Kyral> I heard that rzip has an INSANE compression ratio
[12:47] <iotc247> I also browsed the file directories so its not like its a mistyped url..
[12:47] <knowledge_> ompaul: i have no problem waiting
[12:47] <dracflamloc> knowledge_, mine only works if i plug in a usb mouse first
[12:47] <Kyral> but also it takes forever
[12:48] <dalamar> rzip is supposedly slow and mem hungry as well though
[12:48] <sorush21> why is my cpu spped at 3245 ghz when I only have a few small programs running.. what the hell is going on ..
[12:48] <knowledge_> oh damn!...I wouldn't be able to do it...can't boot a cd, no cd rom drive if both drives are in the comp
[12:48] <iotc247> Ok for some reason now all of a sudden the uk link seemed to work.. Before it was giving me an error with document contains no data (firefox) (ie just didnt load)
[12:48] <Kyral> sorush20, its always supposed to go that speed....
[12:48] <Kyral> doesn't matter the load
[12:48] <matt__> hey, I'm getting a MD5sum mismatch when running apt-get update, it seems there's a problemhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz with
[12:48] <ompaul> knowledge_, that would mean that you could sit down and divide up the disk into lots of slices (okay okay partitions) and then get full and planned use of the disk
[12:49] <pfp> knowledge_: you can boot from either of the hd's and then transfer your home (if that was what you're after?), can you not?
[12:49] <knowledge_> dracflamloc: fresh install? or did this happen out of no where?
[12:49] <ompaul> knowledge_, have you a second machine?
[12:49] <dracflamloc> knowledge_, its a fresh install
[12:49] <sorush21> Kyral: why.. wouldn't it be more eco friendly if it was smarter in running at lower speed when I have low load..
[12:49] <knowledge_> pfp: yeah
[12:49] <knowledge_> ompaul: yaep
[12:50] <Kyral> sorush20, laptops do that kinda, but I don't know how...
[12:50] <knowledge_> dracflamloc: hmm, that's odd, what kind of pc?
[12:50] <dracflamloc> hp zv5260
[12:50] <Kyral> and right now, I don't care much about how much power my CPU takes up :P
[12:50] <WartyBo> Hello??
[12:50] <matt__> does anyone know what could be causing the md5sum mismatch?
[12:50] <dalamar> bad iso
[12:50] <netdur> it is safe to upgrade to breezy? I wanna do tests
[12:51] <matt__> bad iso?
[12:51] <WartyBo> Can anyone help me here?? I have a request of Cds, but it is large, anyone here from Shipit info team?????????
[12:51] <flgr> moin, is it possible to have one task bar per monitor? I'm running the Gnome server -- thanks!
[12:51] <flgr> WartyBo: I think it is probably best to mail them about it
[12:51] <brett604> how do i boot runlevel 3 without X?
[12:51] <dracflamloc> OH
[12:51] <dracflamloc> hey i figured something out
[12:51] <sorush21> what is the command to remove a dpkg.. is it dpkg -e
[12:51] <sorush21> or not..
[12:51] <bina> brett604.  theres a program called bum you can use to change run level stuff i think
[12:51] <ompaul> knowledge_, then tarball the /home directory - (tar cvf my.tar /home/*) then sftp/scp this across to the other box - ohh and copy your repos list /etc/apt/sources.list in case you have something interesting and you want it again to do this with least effort if your not at linux long I would use a program called putty have fun
[12:52] <Kyral> sorush20, you use Apt for it
[12:52] <dracflamloc> if i do: rmmod psmouse, and then modprobe psmouse, the touchpad works
[12:52] <iotc247> dpkg --remove I think..
[12:52] <Kyral> sudo apt-get -remove <package>
[12:52] <iotc247> or that..
[12:52] <brett604> isn't there a way to just change it off a config file? like all other linux os's?
[12:52] <WartyBo> Hello? does anyone know if I can make a request of 1500 Cd`s of Warty ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[12:52] <apokryphos> no hyphen before remove
[12:53] <jtan325> WartyBob, you'd better get 1500 new users haha
[12:53] <apokryphos> WartyBo: so many question marks: gratuitous.
[12:53] <jtan325> no idea
[12:53] <dracflamloc> how can i add the command rmmod psmouse and modprobe psmouse to startup?
[12:53] <bina> brett604: probably :) i dont know it though
[12:53] <knowledge_> dracflamloc: gedit /etc/modules
[12:53] <dracflamloc> its in there
[12:53] <dracflamloc> but doesnt work
[12:53] <brett604> that sucks
[12:53] <brett604> :-(
[12:53] <ompaul> WartyBo, why warty hoary would be handier and have a longer support cycle
[12:53] <apokryphos> WartyBo: email ubuntu or Canonical and give them a substantiated reason, and perhaps
[12:53] <Stormx> <3 ubuntu
[12:53] <Stormx> Go ubuntu go
[12:53] <dracflamloc> i think that this laptop doesnt work the first time because it has one of those toggle buttons to turn off the pad
[12:53] <knowledge_> hmm
[12:53] <Stormx> w00p w00p
[12:54] <WartyBo> jtan325, hehe. It`s for a distribution to my University for its 100 years old Aniversary.
[12:54] <crube> WartyBo, I'm sure you can always ma a request, but I doubt it'll get you anywhere D:
[12:54] <dracflamloc> but when i run it again it works
[12:54] <dracflamloc> so if i could add it to the X.org startup or something it should be fine
[12:54] <WartyBo> crube, I think so, but thanks anyway "D
[12:54] <ompaul> WartyBo, so get hoary for them all
[12:54] <ompaul> bed beckons
[12:54] <WartyBo> apokryphos, thank s a lot, I will right now.
[12:54] <Kyral> hmm
[12:55] <knowledge_> I"m pretty much out of ideas for you dracflamloc, but someone else should be able to help you
[12:55] <Kyral> RZip is breaking on me
[12:55] <nakata> #gentoo / 881 :O
[12:55] <apokryphos> WartyBo: info @ubuntu.com or @canonical.com
[12:55] <sorush21> why do computers crash and freeze when they are overclocked
[12:55] <jamie> amount of ppl went down..,...
[12:55] <nakata> that's a pretty large ark
[12:56] <brett604> anyone know how do i can boot runlevel 3 without X?
[12:56] <WartyBo> apokryphos, thanks a lot, i`ve just know about shipit @info.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <dalamar> sorush21, heat is a big issue
[12:56] <dracflamloc> who knows how to add command to the X startup?
[12:56] <apokryphos> WartyBo: that'll probably do, too.
[12:56] <nakata> dalamar, "you're"
[12:56] <dalamar> nakata, ?
[12:56] <jamie> anyone know any commands for ubuntu?
[12:56] <Jowi> dracflamloc: make a small script: nano mytouchpad + add the lines: #!/bin/sh + rmmod psmouse && modpobe psmouse . then make the script executable and put it in your /etc/rcwhatever/
[12:56] <apokryphos> jamie: no-one knows any, unfortunately.
[12:57] <jamie> darn
[12:57] <WartyBo> I`ll mail them, don`t think will be a problem, don`t you think?
[12:57] <apokryphos> jamie: command for *what*?
[12:57] <jamie> no idea... any command
[12:57] <apokryphos> WartyBo: dunno; partly depends on whether they think they'll be used etc
[12:57] <apokryphos> jamie: test
[12:57] <jamie> i jsut am trying to fiure it out
[12:57] <jamie> thanks
[12:57] <jamie> will try out?
[12:58] <crube> Hey I was wondering if it's possible to change desktop resolution in gnome (while gnome is running) I was able to do this in KDE easily from kcontrol but I don't seem to be able to do this in gnome
[12:58] <apokryphos> jamie: or... whoami :P
[12:58] <juanej> does anyone know how do i make rox the default file manager?
[12:58] <apokryphos> crube: there should be a resolution option from Settings or whatever
[12:58] <dalamar> crube, system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[12:58] <dracflamloc> Jowi, i want it to happen right before x windows starts, which rc do i add it in
[12:58] <Jowi> jamie: type in "a" and then press <tab> twice. that will give you all commands starting with that letter.
[12:58] <dalamar> any program for ubuntu that will play a mounted dvd image?
[12:59] <crube> apokryphos,  yes but it tell me that my x-server doesn't support XRandR
[12:59] <darkheart> dracflamloc add it into your ~/.xsession file
[12:59] <neels> hey all! How can i fix THUNDERBIRD just popping up if it is ALREADY RUNNING?
[12:59] <dracflamloc> but that only does it for this user
[12:59] <dracflamloc> i need it for any user. isnt there a global X startup script?
[12:59] <apokryphos> jamie: check the Wiki for a few basic commands: wiki.ubuntu.com ; for a introductory guide to Linux, check the rute manual...
[12:59] <apokryphos> !rute
[12:59] <ubotu> from memory, rute is a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/
[12:59] <darkheart> dracflamloc For all users, you need to edit a file inside /etc/X11. can't remember exactly which file.
[01:00] <WartyBo> apokryphos: I think distribution to all human kind would be a good reason for them to accept my request, hehe, well, assuming "all human kind" would be almost 1500 pc users at my faculty.
[01:00] <jamie> Jowi: thanks
[01:00] <apokryphos> dracflamloc: what are you trying to do?
[01:00] <Jowi> dracflamloc: i think rc2.d. the scripts get started by name. for examplt S20autofs starts before S89anacron
[01:00] <apokryphos> WartyBo: if they're going to be genuinely distributed, then you have a good case going for you.
[01:01] <dalamar> free woth a cheeseburger and fries
[01:01] <dalamar> with too
[01:01] <apokryphos> dracflamloc: you can use the xserverrc file, probably
[01:01] <Jowi> dracflamloc: type "runlevel" to find out which rc you should use
[01:01] <neels> How can i fix mozilla-thunderbird to just pop up if it is already running?
[01:01] <nakata> as in "you are"
[01:02] <dracflamloc> N 2?
[01:02] <dalamar> who was saying your? or you're? and since when was this english class?
[01:02] <jamie> god... i don't need another english class!
[01:02] <neels> my mozilla-thunderbird brings up a sessions dialog if i click the launcher twice. CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
[01:03] <WartyBo> apokryphos: what do you mean with a "good case" ..
[01:03] <jamie> neels: I don't know what to say. Maybe, click it only once?
[01:03] <neels> lol
[01:03] <apokryphos> WartyBo: good chance
[01:03] <WartyBo> apokryphos: ?
[01:03] <neels> well the problem are the mailto links from firefox
[01:03] <neels> they also bring up the sessions
[01:03] <neels> :(
[01:03] <Jowi> dracflamloc: number 2
[01:03] <matt__> hi, how can i install uuencode on ubuntu?
[01:04] <neels> still no help, jamie?
[01:04] <jamie> sorry
[01:04] <jamie> no help tehre
[01:04] <neels> didnt think so :)
[01:04] <dracflamloc> yea i figured
[01:04] <dracflamloc> rebooting now, to try
[01:04] <neels> scheisse mann
[01:05] <Dekker_tripper> Hi people!
[01:05] <dalamar> Hi!
[01:06] <jamie> Hi!
[01:06] <Dekker_tripper> Do you speak to Russian?
[01:06] <dalamar> only if im really drunk
[01:06] <mindmedic> we speak to everyone
[01:06] <dalamar> no actually ;)
[01:06] <jamie> nein, aber ich spreche der Deutsch! und only ein sehr klein amount... like so
[01:07] <Jowi> Dekker_tripper: i think there should be a #ubuntu-ru or #ubuntu.ru channel
[01:07] <Dekker_tripper> Do you speak to Deutsch?
[01:07] <dalamar> i speak english .. and have a had time at that sometimes lol
[01:07] <dalamar> case in point i cant spell hard
[01:07] <jamie> Deutsch is actually German
[01:07] <dracflamloc> thanks for the help. it worked =)
[01:07] <Dekker_tripper> Who admin?
[01:07] <crube> I speak Finnish, english, a little swedish and a little latin :)
[01:07] <Jowi> good man dracflamloc
[01:08] <mindmedic> jamie, polish your german sills :D
[01:08] <Dekker_tripper> Who admin?
[01:08] <darkheart> !ops
[01:08] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[01:08] <Dekker_tripper> this admins?
[01:08] <dalamar> i know some spanish but only from what i've learned from the taco bell menu
[01:08] <jamie> mindmedic: I am 14, in the eighth grade, and have only been taking it two years!
[01:08] <apokryphos> darkheart: not a good idea to alert them for nothing...
[01:09] <dalamar> jamie, dont feel bad im 10 years older than you and dont know any ;)
[01:09] <darkheart> apokryphos Yeah, didn't really think that would happen before I typed it.
[01:09] <Dekker_tripper> o hlopcy vam menia pridetsia kicknut'!
[01:09] <mindmedic> jamie, schade, sprachen knnen ist immer gut
[01:09] <Dekker_tripper> i prosto tak ne uidu!
[01:09] <mindmedic> muss aber nicht deutsch sein
[01:09] <Dekker_tripper> XAXAXAXA
[01:09] <Dekker_tripper> Veselo!
[01:09] <jamie> god... now I am confused, considering i only knowq about half of what you two just said...
[01:10] <dracflamloc> man
[01:10] <mindmedic> g00d night :D
[01:10] <dracflamloc> ubuntu was by far the easiest linux install on a laptop i've ever had to do
[01:10] <Dekker_tripper> by
[01:10] <Dekker_tripper> pisec
[01:10] <icewt> dracflamloc, and it's still the best ;)
[01:10] <jamie> gute nacht
[01:11] <Epix> hello
[01:11] <dalamar> ubuntu was the easiest linux install i've ever had period .. was running fc4 previously, its nice but too structured and ubuntu caters to more of what I'm looking for
[01:11] <dracflamloc> how come the "sound server" fopr gnome blocks sound from games like tuxracer?
[01:11] <WartyBo> omg I was so lagged
[01:11] <Epix> im wondering where i get the quake3 linux point release file. I cant find it!
[01:11] <Dekker_tripper> Kick Epix
[01:11] <neels> jamie: he had some empty remarks on language skills. dont worry
[01:11] <Xappe> anyone here that recently compiled linuxdc++ on ppc?
[01:11] <dracflamloc> if i disable it i get sounds in tuxracer but not event sounds
[01:11] <Dekker_tripper> i new admin
[01:11] <jamie> bye bye everyone
[01:11] <techii> umm, i have a problem with copying a image to a floppy with dd
[01:11] <Epix> Dekker_tripper: you wish...
[01:12] <neels> hasn't anyone here fixed their thunderbird??
[01:12] <Jowi> dracflamloc: its the hideous esd. killall esd will solve it temporarily
[01:12] <Epix> Dekker_tripper: Usually admins are people who use proper grammer.
[01:12] <Epix> grammar*
[01:12] <apokryphos> dracflamloc: it's actually not that easy an install compared to a few
[01:12] <apokryphos> dracflamloc: still no graphical installer in yet...
[01:12] <dalamar> i fixed it, i deleted it ;)  rm'd ... sorry
[01:12] <neels> i mean, you could ALWAYS just click a darn mailto link in firefox, and thunderbird came up. what are they thinking?
[01:12] <dracflamloc> as far as hardware compatibility its the easiest i've done
[01:12] <crube> Epix if you have the original quake you should be able to find the necessary files at least from torrent sites
[01:12] <Dekker_tripper> sorry za my english
[01:12] <apokryphos> neels: /me does prefer Kontact :P
[01:13] <neels> no shit
[01:13] <icewt> Epix, ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/linux/linuxq3apoint-1.32.x86.run ?
[01:13] <Epix> crube: i have quake three, like a real copy
[01:13] <neels> never boy, thunderbird is the standard for me.
[01:13] <crube> Epix,  just wanted to make sure you're no pirate! Yarrr!
[01:13] <dalamar> haha
[01:14] <dalamar> real pirates are the coolest, not computer ones
[01:14] <Epix> crube: nobody ever said that my real copy was a legit one... :P
[01:14] <neels> ok now i'll find it out and be the first, harr harr
[01:14] <dalamar> shun!
[01:14] <Dekker_tripper> (^ ^)
[01:14] <asfra> I'm trying to use firestarter to share an internet-connection. However when I start it I get the message that eth0 is not ready. eth0 is the card to my local network. Why is that? I've set it to use DHCP...
[01:14] <Dekker_tripper> ( . )( . )
[01:14] <Epix> icewt: 550! FTP's version of the 404
[01:14] <Dekker_tripper> titty
[01:15] <Dekker_tripper> siski
[01:15] <dalamar> no battleship for me, just a schooner with some serious cannons! make way the long nines!
[01:15] <neels> asfra: i had to do some "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" to get it going.
[01:15] <neels> the eth0, that is.
[01:15] <Dekker_tripper> bad bots!
[01:15] <icewt> Epix, then you've just to use google. or, actually, i already used ftp://fileserver.battlefoundry.net/games/q3/linuxq3apoint-1.32.x86.run
[01:15] <dracflamloc> how hard is it to use kde in ubuntu and still have a choice to switch to gnome or kde?
[01:15] <crube> Pirates always remind me of those good ol' Monkey Island games :P
[01:16] <Dekker_tripper> USA FOREVER!! :)))))
[01:16] <Deep6> guys anyone got the correct apt source for enlightenment beta?
[01:16] <mindmedic> Epix, id software is one of the very few ones supporting the linux platform. so if you pirate their games just be sure to play online :))
[01:16] <neels> dracflamloc: just install it and you should be able to select upon login between gnome and kde
[01:16] <dracflamloc> great
[01:16] <Jowi> crube: that is fantastic. i played monkey island (1) on a monochrome tandy for the first time
[01:16] <rob_p> asfra:  Your local network interface should have a static IP if it's going to provide connectivity to the outside world via NAT...
[01:16] <LinuxJones> Dekker_tripper, stop spamming the channel please
[01:16] <Dekker_tripper> go to korea!
[01:16] <dalamar> dracflamloc, fairly simple, although if they are install for the same user the menus overlap ie gnome apps show on kde menu and vice versa
[01:16] <neels> dracflamloc: you can always run kde programs from gnome and vice versa
[01:16] <crube> Jowi,  I've played 1,2 and 3 :)
[01:16] <dracflamloc> yea
[01:16] <Epix> mindmedic: im doing this to run a server! :P
[01:17] <LinuxJones> bob2, / Seveas, ping
[01:17] <dracflamloc> i'm just wanting to try out kde. i've been a fluxbox and gnome user all the time
[01:17] <dracflamloc> kinda curious to try a differnt one
[01:17] <neels> gee, have fun, i'll be off
[01:17] <asfra> neels: could it be a problem that I'm using eth1 to the internet while eth0  to the local network. eth1 is my wireless-card?
[01:17] <apokryphos> dracflamloc: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <Jowi> crube: same here. over and ove again. then i tried the 4 demo and was not impressed at all. that 3d looks bloody awful :-)
[01:17] <rob_p> asfra:  mainly because it's IP address will become the default gateway for all of the internal hosts.  If it's dynamic, it causes problems...
[01:17] <neels> asfra: no. they should not interfere
[01:17] <crube> Jowi,  well I didn't even want to try that one :P
[01:17] <neels> CHEERS!!
[01:17] <dalamar> monkey island games are the coolest, funny as hell
[01:18] <dalamar> and hell is funny let me tell you!
[01:18] <Jowi> asfra: eth1 to the internet should get dhcp. eth0 should have a static ip since your other computer is gonna use it as a gateway
[01:18] <andril> goodnight all - hopefully the repositories come back soon - I got to get ready for a Hurricane: Katrina
[01:18] <Epix> dalamar: monkey island?
[01:18] <crube> I'm Guybrush Threepwood! A mightry pirate!
[01:18] <crube> mighty*
[01:18] <dracflamloc> apokryphos, oops, i just selected the kde package in synaptic
[01:19] <Jowi> night all. need some sleep
[01:19] <apokryphos> dracflamloc: not too good an idea
[01:19] <dalamar> Epix, yeah, you dont know monkey island?
[01:19] <icewt> dalamar, but Arcade Volleyball is the best game ever. luckily there's also gav ;)
[01:19] <xulMunkee> i think KQ is the best
[01:19] <apokryphos> dracflamloc: if the download hasn't finished, best to cancel and just go for kubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <dalamar> xulMunkee, king quest is the master of point and click rpg ;)
[01:20] <asfra> rob_p: yes, I see that my eth0 card isn't getting an ip-adress. What adress should I give it then? I gave the internal machine 192.168.0.1. My wireless card is using DHCP by the way
[01:20] <Epix> dalamar: what is it
[01:20] <medamaybe> hm..random question...does anyone know how I can get the icon to the trash can back?
[01:20] <dalamar> Epix, classic point and click rpg series about pirates
[01:20] <Epix> heh
[01:20] <xulMunkee> dalamar, not king quest.. the KQ game pkg in synaptic
[01:21] <dracflamloc> apokryphos, ok i'll cancel
[01:21] <asfra> Jowi: ok, so I need to fill in the static ip I give my eht0 card as an gateway to my internal machin
[01:21] <dalamar> xulMunkee, ah, never played
[01:21] <xulMunkee> dalamar, do try it out. it's quite good
[01:21] <dalamar> i spend my gaming hours on ubuntu in snes9x playing every rpg I ever loved and some other favorites
[01:21] <xulMunkee> i love ubuntu. the whole world is but an apt-get away :)
[01:22] <apokryphos> xulMunkee: thank Debian for a lot of that :P
[01:22] <dalamar> super punchout, bomberman, zelda, chrono trigger, secret of mana, illlusions of gaia, the list goes on ;)
[01:22] <Dekker_tripper> ops
[01:22] <Ex-Cyber> dalamar: ever played Terranigma?
[01:22] <icewt> but we should all just play gav all the time
[01:22] <rob_p> asfra:  Ok, first, the box providing the Internet connection sharing should have a static IP on it's internal interface.  Usually something like 192.168.1.1.  The external interface may remain DHCP.  All the internal hosts that will be relying on your box for their Internet connection should then be assigned IP addresses within the 192.168.1.0/24 range.  This can be done with a local DHCP server or assigned manually.
[01:22] <dalamar> Ex-Cyber, no but I've heard the name before, what is it?
[01:23] <crube> Ex-Cyber,  Terranigma. That's pretty good
[01:23] <Dekker_tripper> rob_p: you lamer??
[01:23] <Ex-Cyber> dalamar: it's an action/adventure/rpg thingy (whatever you want to call the genre) from Quintet, the development house that did Actraiser/Soulblazer/Illusion of Gaia
[01:23] <Ex-Cyber> there was no US release but there was an English PAL release
[01:24] <asfra> rob_p: thanks alot! I think I'll fix it now
[01:24] <dalamar> Ex-Cyber, snes?
[01:24] <Dekker_tripper> rob_p: you lamo?
[01:24] <Ex-Cyber> dalamar: just thought I'd mention it since you mentioned Illusion of Gaia :)
[01:24] <Ex-Cyber> yes, SNES
[01:24] <dalamar> im on a mission to find it now ;)
[01:25] <medamaybe> does anyone know how I can see windowsboxes in my network?
[01:25] <Dekker_tripper> mother fucking
[01:25] <iotc247> Samba I think
[01:25] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Yes.  Use Samba.
[01:25] <medamaybe> I don't know how to use samba :(
[01:25] <apokryphos> Dekker_tripper: what are you doing?
[01:25] <Dekker_tripper> kama-sutra
[01:25] <crube> lol I was looking for help to my resolution problems and I accidently found a site linuxsucks.org :D A funny site it is
[01:25] <derFlo> ciao
[01:26] <Dekker_tripper> all by
[01:26] <Ex-Cyber> crube: I'm generally partial to the Unix Haters' Handbook... and funroll-loops.org
[01:26] <medamaybe> rob_p, is samba easy to use?
[01:26] <rob_p> asfra:  Don't forget to make sure that all the internal hosts use that box's internal IP address for their default gateways.
[01:27] <Raven> Ok, I ran into a problem...I don't have 2 Laptop adapters to put into my desktop
[01:27] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Yes, I think so.
[01:27] <Ex-Cyber> (I don't say this to bash Gentoo, actually I like it, but it inspires some truly mind-boggling stupidity in some people)
[01:27] <medamaybe> ok...
[01:27] <medamaybe> any hints on where to start?
[01:27] <rob_p> medamaybe:  It didn't seem too difficult to me when I set it up.
[01:27] <netdur> poeple, how do I remove kde?
[01:27] <medamaybe> well, the way I see it, there's not much to set up
[01:27] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Yes.  First go in and edit the smb.conf file.
[01:27] <knowledge_> Can I tar.bz2 a my home directory if it's being used?
[01:28] <nalioth> knowledge_: you are a quick one
[01:28] <apokryphos> netdur: your best luck is with debfoster; though, why do you want to? Low on space?
[01:28] <rob_p> medamaybe:  the config file for Samba is located in your /etc/samba directory.
[01:28] <netdur> I don't use kde
[01:28] <nalioth> knowledge_: better that it isnt (i.e. from another account)
[01:28] <medamaybe> ok...it's read only..lol
[01:29] <nalioth> knowledge_: cuz logs and such are constantly updating
[01:29] <rob_p> medamaybe:  use sudo
[01:29] <medamaybe> hmm..
[01:29] <apokryphos> netdur: and *no* kde apps? Removing kdelibs will remove most of the stuff...
[01:29] <Epix> hmm
[01:29] <TaxMan> When Ubuntu is already installed, how do I partition and format a new harddisk, /dev/sdb?
[01:29] <Epix> when i try to run the q3 point release installer: ./setup.sh: line 213: 31240 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>/dev/null
[01:29] <knowledge_> nalioth: so how would you copy my home dir to another laptop hard drive?
[01:29] <medamaybe> sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.cnf?
[01:29] <dalamar> Ex-Cyber, ooh, found it, thanks for the heads up ;)
[01:29] <dracflamloc> taxman, cfdisk
[01:29] <Epix> and then
[01:29] <Epix> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[01:29] <Epix> opps
[01:30] <nalioth> knowledge_: log out of the active machine (leave login screen up)
[01:30] <nalioth> knowledge_: then sftp your homedir from login-screen-machine to your laptop
[01:30] <nalioth> knowledge_: from your laptop
[01:30] <elvirolo> are the forums down ?
[01:30] <apokryphos> elvirolo: yes
[01:30] <elvirolo> apokryphos: ok thx
[01:30] <knowledge_> nalioth: you have lost me
[01:30] <rob_p> medamaybe:  yes, that should work :-)  I use vi 'cause it's hard to break old habits...
[01:31] <medamaybe> I hate vi
[01:31] <nalioth> knowledge_: on your machine with your good homedir (full of the things the way you like), make sure that machine has openssh-server installed
[01:31] <rob_p> medamaybe:  actually it's smb.conf not smb.cnf
[01:31] <medamaybe> yeah I noticed, typo
[01:31] <iotc247> when are the forums expected to be up? or is it not maintenance.
[01:31] <nalioth> knowledge_: then log out of your good homedir machine (leave it running, at a login screen)
[01:31] <TaxMan> dracflamloc, when running cfdisk it has disk drive: /dev/sda at the top. How do I run it for /dev/sdb?
[01:31] <apokryphos> iotc247: it probably isn't, no.
[01:31] <netdur> apokryphos, nice :) thank you
[01:32] <dracflamloc> TaxMan, cfdisk /dev/sdb
[01:32] <iotc247> Darn... That sucks..
[01:32] <medamaybe> there's so much in that file that I don't understand (yet)
[01:32] <nalioth> knowledge_: then get on your laptop, sftp into the machine you just logged out of (the one iwth the homedir you want to xfer) and sftp your homedir into your laptop
[01:32] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Yeah, I know.  Most folks do.  I like it because I am familliar with it and I know that it will be there on almost any box I need to maintain :-)
[01:32] <TaxMan> Ah :) Thanks.
[01:32] <knowledge_> ohhhh wait wait, nalioth: this is from laptop drive to laptop drie
[01:32] <knowledge_> ve*
[01:32] <teressa> hello boys
[01:32] <teressa> What do you all think of XFCE?
[01:33] <medamaybe> well, you're right about that...I might look into vi again
[01:33] <nalioth> knowledge_: again, you've lost me
[01:33] <apokryphos> teressa: decent light-weight DE
[01:33] <teressa> Is it worth it?
[01:33] <medamaybe> rob_p, do I have to restart anything after I edit that file?
[01:34] <apokryphos> teressa: if you specifically want a lightweight DE then I'd probably recommend fluxbox/enlightenment/xfce
[01:34] <VivaLaRoach> Any tips on backing up dvd
[01:34] <TaxMan> In cfdisk, under type, I don't see ext3... is cfdisk only for partitioning and not formating? If so, after I partition, how do I format a partition for ext3?
[01:34] <knowledge_> nalioth: My current ubuntu install is on a 10 gig (on my laptop)...I want to swap it onto a 60 gig (also laptop) same laptop...2 drives, only one spot for a drive
[01:34] <nalioth> VivaLaRoach: dvd::rip (in the repos as dvdrip)
[01:34] <teressa> hmmm
[01:34] <mjr> TaxMan, only; mke2fs -j /dev/whatever
[01:34] <nalioth> knowledge_: where is the target HD now?
[01:34] <apokryphos> teressa: if you want more features/power, I'd recommend KDE
[01:34] <teressa> What about a good html editor a la Dreamweaver?
[01:34] <apokryphos> or gnome
[01:34] <rob_p> medamaybe:  you might want to cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf_original or something similar before editing it.  That way you can go back to an original config file if you screw the working one up.  Yes.  You will need to restart samba after editing that file.
[01:34] <|Imp|> i have a laptop running warty
[01:34] <|Imp|> i want to update to hoary
[01:34] <|Imp|> i have a hoary cd
[01:34] <VivaLaRoach> can't download dvdrip, problem with dependencies
[01:34] <|Imp|> how do i do the update?
[01:35] <knowledge_> nalioth: it's getting an ubuntu install right now
[01:35] <apokryphos> teressa: you mean a HTML editor or a WYSIWYG HTML Editor?
[01:35] <apokryphos> !dreamweaver
[01:35] <ubotu> apokryphos: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:35] <medamaybe> hmm..how do I restart samba?
[01:35] <apokryphos> heh
[01:35] <knowledge_> nalioth in my laptop
[01:35] <teressa> ummm not sure
[01:35] <teressa> What is better?
[01:35] <mjr> medamaybe, /etc/init.d/samba restart
[01:35] <nalioth> knowledge_: so where is the HD with the homedir of your desires right now?
[01:35] <rob_p> medamaybe:  just do a, "sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload"
[01:35] <apokryphos> teressa: I think WYSIWYG editors are a joke, personally; the code they write is lame. Dreamweaver is one, though.
[01:35] <medamaybe> k, thanks
[01:35] <|Imp|> hullo?
[01:35] <knowledge_> nalioth: sitting next to the laptop...not doing anything (not connected)
[01:35] <rob_p> medamaybe:  That will cause samba to re-read it's config file.
[01:36] <teressa> Okay, so what is a good straight up html editor?
[01:36] <nalioth> apokryphos: i think mozilla composer comes closest to rendering w3w compliant code
[01:36] <dalamar> nano!
[01:36] <apokryphos> teressa: you'll have to write the code yourself :). But I think the best out there is Quanta+
[01:36] <nalioth> knowledge_: you must connect the orphan to a machine somewhere
[01:36] <apokryphos> dalamar: great highlighting ;-)
[01:36] <kaptaink> any help on increasing the mouse roll of my mouse whell in ubuntu gnome?
[01:36] <dalamar> i know nothing nevermind me ;)
[01:37] <|Imp|> how do i upgrade from warty to hoary if i have a hoary cd?
[01:37] <medamaybe> it says /etc/init.d/samba is not found
[01:37] <teressa> hmmm
[01:37] <teressa> quanta looks good
[01:37] <teressa> Can synaptic install it?
[01:37] <jbarbero> Hello, I'm a new Ubuntu user...
[01:37] <Velox> |Imp|: I think you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list then run an apt-get update, apt get dist-upgrade
[01:37] <drew> what is the file path for the repositories?
[01:38] <jbarbero> Just wondering how I can fetch the kernel sources?
[01:38] <apokryphos> teressa: it has many advanced features, and is perfect for [X] HTML, XML, PHP, and other languages
[01:38] <knowledge_> nalioth: I could connect one laptop drive at a time to my desktop maching...running windows (ntfs)...someone said something about the permissions will be lost if I transfer to a ntfs drive...so I need to tar.bz my home dir, dump it onto my windows box...then back onto my 60 gig
[01:38] <|Imp|> Velox, edit in what way?
[01:38] <rob_p> medamaybe:  It should be there if you installed samba.
[01:38] <medamaybe> well...I never did
[01:38] <Velox> |Imp|: add the Ubuntu Hoary CD to the sources.
[01:38] <medamaybe> it was just there
[01:38] <AdmiralSenn> okay, I have a very large 'what the heck' situation here
[01:38] <Stormx> okay
[01:38] <nalioth> knowledge_: you'll need to hook the orphan up to your windows box, initiate the ubuntu live cd, mount the orphan HD and follow my instructions above
[01:38] <kaptaink> drew     sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:38] <|Imp|> velox, yes, how?
[01:39] <apokryphos> teressa: sorry, it is in the repositories, yes.
[01:39] <AdmiralSenn> for some reason things aren't working right and it has to do with xorg.conf and the nvidia drivers
[01:39] <teressa> Is there one specifically for gnome?
[01:39] <knowledge_> nalioth: the orphan being the 10 gig?
[01:39] <Velox> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:39] <rob_p> medamaybe:  do a, "ls /etc/init.d | grep samba" and see if it finds it.
[01:39] <AdmiralSenn> every time I start ubuntu I have sound but certain things won't work until I reinstall the drivers
[01:39] <apokryphos> teressa: gedit can probably handle basic HTML highlighting, at least.
[01:39] <AdmiralSenn> and every time I do that, ALSA breaks
[01:39] <nalioth> knowledge_: the orphan being the one laying outside of a puter right now( with the homedir of your desires on it)
[01:39] <teressa> Quanta it is!
[01:39] <medamaybe> ok, what does grep do? does that search for a keyword in a filename?
[01:39] <teressa> h aha
[01:40] <AdmiralSenn> so I can have sound or video but not both
[01:40] <AdmiralSenn> any ideas anyone?
[01:40] <knowledge_> nalioth: I see
[01:40] <rob_p> medamaybe:  more or less, yes.
[01:40] <teressa> Thanks apokryphos :)
[01:40] <apokryphos> no worries
[01:40] <Stormx> AdmiralSenn: Theres a wizard that lets you edit the xorg file.
[01:40] <medamaybe> it didn't find anything
[01:40] <apokryphos> Stormx: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:40] <Stormx> AdmiralSenn: Maybe going through that will help reset defaults?
[01:40] <AdmiralSenn> Stormx: that's great but I don't know what I'm doing
[01:40] <AdmiralSenn> heh
[01:40] <AdmiralSenn> I don't WANT defaults
[01:40] <knowledge_> OHHH....I see what you mean nalioth
[01:40] <AdmiralSenn> I want the drivers to work
[01:41] <iotc247> Anyone test out the new colony 3 of Breezy? Is it any good (the new changes that is)
[01:41] <apokryphos> AdmiralSenn: nvidia drivers for graphics have *nothing* to do with alsa
[01:41] <AdmiralSenn> I shouldn't have to reinstall my graphics drivers every time I turn on the machine
[01:41] <AdmiralSenn> apokryphos: in theory no
[01:41] <rob_p> medamaybe:  basically your getting a listing of the /etc/init.d directory and then piping it through grep to search for the string, "samba"
[01:41] <apokryphos> iotc247: very much so, yes. Pacey.
[01:41] <teressa> I thought breezy was still borked?
[01:41] <AdmiralSenn> but when I uninstall/reinstall them, alsa breaks
[01:41] <apokryphos> AdmiralSenn: what changes, specifically, are you making?
[01:41] <AdmiralSenn> I'm not making ANY changes
[01:41] <apokryphos> teressa: not really; fairly stable at the mo
[01:41] <apokryphos> AdmiralSenn: then nothing is changing :)
[01:41] <AdmiralSenn> apokryphos: bull
[01:42] <AdmiralSenn> something is horribly wrong
[01:42] <medamaybe> well...it doesn't show any results
[01:42] <juanej> !packages
[01:42] <ubotu> You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <apokryphos> no change -> no change. Seems like a fairly basic premise. :P
[01:42] <AdmiralSenn> or I wouldn't have to uninstall reinstall every time I load ubuntu
[01:42] <nalioth> knowledge_: how many linux boxen do you have?
[01:42] <AdmiralSenn> it's getting rather tedious, and now the graphics installation bit is breaking ALSA
[01:42] <apokryphos> AdmiralSenn: then something *is* changing, isn't it? You're restarting
[01:42] <jbarbero> what package are the kernel sources?
[01:42] <AdmiralSenn> the damn machine froze....
[01:42] <Epix> when trying to install quake3 point release, i get this error: The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[01:42] <AdmiralSenn> and I don't always leave it on for weeks on end
[01:43] <AdmiralSenn> nothing should be changing
[01:43] <rob_p> medamaybe:  It really should be there if you installed samba.  Hmm, strange...
[01:43] <medamaybe> I never installed it manually
[01:44] <sweatybob> Hey, im installing ubuntu tommorow, on my only harddrive and i only have 5 Gb of un allocated space... is that enough =/
[01:44] <apokryphos> sweatybob: indeed
[01:44] <kaptaink> does anyone know how to configure a mouse wheel in ubuntu?
[01:44] <medamaybe> I thought samba was installed automatically
[01:44] <apokryphos> kaptaink: edit your xorg.conf and add in the X-axis; or, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:44] <apokryphos> s/X-axis/Z-axis
[01:45] <Epix> i have libc5 and i still get that error
[01:45] <jbarbero> what package are the kernel sources?
[01:45] <AdmiralSenn> I reiterate: when I boot into ubuntu, I must reinstall my nvidia drivers to get everything working. Doing so somehow breaks alsa. Restarting fixes alsa, requiring me to fix the graphics driver again... etc
[01:45] <sweatybob> apokryphos: And... ubuntu will make a partition from my unallocated space i DO NOT want to format my NTFS partition with windows and all my files on it.
[01:45] <TeHHerzog> dose any one know the link to a good irc bot that is easy to use?
[01:45] <kaptaink> will that allow me to increase the speed of my wheel?
[01:45] <kaptaink> as in the one that scrolls up and down pages?
[01:45] <medamaybe> rob_p, does the fact that I have a /etc/samba/ directory mean samba is installed?
[01:45] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Nope.  I think I had to install it manually.
[01:45] <medamaybe> hmm....damn
[01:45] <apokryphos> sweatybob: if you don't tell it to, no, it won't do that
[01:46] <rob_p> do a, sudo apt-get install samba
[01:46] <sweatybob> apokryphos: ok so i just have to read what im doing and be careful, right?
[01:46] <medamaybe> ok
[01:46] <iotc247> Oh since Im going to be installing ubuntu breezy soon (waiting for cd to finish downloading) I wanted to know how do I get firefox to upgrade to the trunk.. Is there like a firefox-trunk package or something?
[01:46] <medamaybe> so why is there a smb.conf  file if samba is not installed?
[01:46] <apokryphos> sweatybob: basically, yes.
[01:46] <adam_> is breezy out yet?
[01:46] <sweatybob> whats ubuntu breezy?
[01:46] <Stormx> no
[01:46] <cafuego> adam_: october
[01:46] <adam_> aha;
[01:46] <Stormx> !breezy
[01:46] <ubotu> breezy is, like, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[01:47] <adam_> oh ic
[01:47] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Couldn't tell you...  Just install it.
[01:47] <adam_> thanks for telling me
[01:47] <sweatybob> How long do the CDs from the unbuntu website normaly take to ship?
[01:47] <AdmiralSenn> sweatybob: depends..
[01:47] <sweatybob> on?
[01:47] <dalamar> are you in BFE?
[01:48] <adam_> it took me 2 months
[01:48] <AdmiralSenn> where you live
[01:48] <sweatybob> UK
[01:48] <AdmiralSenn> when you ordered
[01:48] <adam_> and i live in Canada
[01:48] <Stormx> sweatybob: Where you live / how many you order / current queue
[01:48] <AdmiralSenn> I'm in the US and it took about 6 weeks
[01:48] <sweatybob> UK. 6 CDS.
[01:48] <Stormx> I ordered my friend 130 and they got their pretty fast.
[01:48] <Stormx> ^_^
[01:48] <adam_> wow;
[01:48] <Stormx> sweatybob: I live in UK and it took me a couple of months to get 20. Things could have impoved, mind.
[01:48] <dalamar> find  some serious bandwidth and download it ;)
[01:48] <iotc247> Ok I dont even wanna know what kind of party you are having (I take it for coasters?)
[01:49] <Xappe> what are they doing with the forums?
[01:49] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Did you get it installed yet?
[01:49] <sweatybob> i've downloaded it.
[01:49] <medamaybe> yeah
[01:49] <dalamar> iotc247, trap shooting
[01:49] <medamaybe> I installed it
[01:49] <sweatybob> ive got it here on CD waiting for me to install tommorow.
[01:49] <medamaybe> I'm trying to figure out how to configure it
[01:49] <AdmiralSenn> hmm
[01:50] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Ok.  Now you should be able to edit that config file we discussed earlier.  I'd make a backup of the original beforehand.
[01:50] <jbarbero> will someone /please/ help me?
[01:50] <iotc247> *Waits patiently while forums are down.. Ok patients over. Out of Patients. Please insert new Patients[4]  to continue.*
[01:50] <AdmiralSenn> in the terminal I get this when I try to run xmms: libmp4v2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:50] <jbarbero> kernel-source is the 2.4 sources package
[01:50] <AdmiralSenn> and again reinstalling nvidia drivers fixes that
[01:50] <jbarbero> How can I install the kernel sources?
[01:50] <medamaybe> ok, I made a backup of that file and edited everything I think I needed to change
[01:50] <jbarbero> iotc247: the forums were slashdotted, weren't they?
[01:50] <crimsun_> jbarbero, linux-tree-2.6.10
[01:50] <medamaybe> and I reloaded samba
[01:50] <jbarbero> crimsun_: thanks!
[01:50] <crimsun_> jbarbero, unless you want just the headers, which are linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:51] <iotc247> @jbarbero Huh?
[01:51] <sweatybob> opps sorry.
[01:51] <rob_p> medamaybe:  The main things are the workgroup name, the authentication (user level or share level - you probably want share level), and then you need to create a share.  That should get you going.
[01:51] <asfra> rob_p: I can now ping both eth0 and eth1 form my internal computer, however, it wont connect to any remote adresses. Do you know what it could be? perhaps a firewall-setting?
[01:52] <medamaybe> I have to create a share? even if I only want to view other computers?
[01:52] <rob_p> asfra:  perhaps...
[01:52] <rob_p> asfra:  what are you using to configure the NAT routing for you?
[01:52] <AdmiralSenn> okay clearly nobody is able or willing to help...
[01:53] <rob_p> asfra:  firestarter or something?
[01:53] <AdmiralSenn> so I'm going to uninstall nvidia drivers, reboot, then reinstall and see what happens
[01:53] <firez> astra: do you have 2 network cards, right?
[01:54] <firez> You must enable port-forwarding first
[01:54] <asfra> rob_p: I haven't done any NAT stuff yet, I assumed the firestarter would take care of it?
[01:54] <rob_p> asfra:  the fact that you can ping both interfaces from the inside is a good thing!  You're almost there :-)
[01:54] <reiki> what's the command I'd use to get fetchmail to go check messages right now even though I had started it in daemon mode?
[01:54] <rob_p> asfra:  You need to have firestarter enable the connection sharing feature.
[01:54] <asfra> rob_p: I can't traceroute any of the interfaces.. could that mean anything
[01:55] <asfra> rop_p that feature is enabled
[01:55] <medamaybe> hm...it's not working :(
[01:55] <rob_p> asfra:  If you can ping them and get replies back, just proceed with the configuration of firestarter.
[01:55] <asfra> rop_p forget the traceroute, that was just slow
[01:55] <rob_p> asfra:  did you re-apply it?
[01:55] <lexmark> my sound card is not being detected.. its a turtle beach brand Model is Santa CRuz ... tried the wiki resource its no help
[01:56] <crimsun_> lexmark, using snd_cs46xx?
[01:56] <sweatybob> you guys know your stuff
[01:56] <lexmark> never used snd_cs46xx before
[01:57] <lexmark> how do I do that?
[01:57] <Xappe> anyone here that feels that lifw is boring and screams for fun? in that case that person is free to tell me how to compile the latest update of linuxdc++ on ppc :) othesa are also free to join in
[01:57] <asfra> rob_p: yeah, did it now
[01:57] <medamaybe> rob_p, are you sure I need samba to view my network? from what I've read it's a server
[01:58] <rob_p> medamaybe:  It is both a client and a server :-)
[01:58] <rob_p> asfra:  did it work?
[01:58] <johnio> is there a bug with linux-restricted-modules in breezy, even though I have it installed it gives me ----FATAL: Module nvidia not found.
[01:58] <medamaybe> mmkay
[01:59] <medamaybe> well, the client part isn't working either :)
[01:59] <floppyears> hi
[01:59] <floppyears> I'm having problems with apache1.3
[01:59] <apokryphos> johnio: the latest linux-restricted-modules is missing a few nvidia things, like nvidia.ko
[01:59] <floppyears> I have two vhosts, and when I use both of the different domain names I get the same document ;(
[01:59] <johnio> apokryphos: oh, ok, so the best thing is to try to downgrade
[02:00] <TaxMan> When I do "extract_compressed_fs mnt/casper/filesystem.cloop > extracted_fs" (even as a su), it says "bash: extracted_fs: Permission denied". extracted_fs does not exist and if I do create it then it says "bash: extracted_fs: Is a directory". How do I get permission? I tried sudo... I don't get it.
[02:00] <asfra> rob_p: still can't ping a remote adress. It doesn't look like I can manually do anyting with NAT either...  It really isn't much to configure in the firestarter.
[02:00] <apokryphos> johnio: to the 2.6.10 one, yes, but it's no longer in breezy :/
[02:00] <apokryphos> johnio: I got in just in time :P
[02:00] <johnio> apokryphos: tnx
[02:00] <johnio> apokryphos: hmm maybe I wil jsut have to install it manually
[02:01] <medamaybe> rob_p,  do I have to change this "server string = %h server (Samba, Ubuntu)" ?
[02:01] <johnio> apokryphos: do you know why thay left it out, is ther a bug for it?
[02:01] <floppyears> can somebody help me with apache?
[02:02] <apokryphos> johnio: I'm not sure if it's intentional; there've been problems with drivers (and X) in breezy for some time
[02:02] <iiiears> floppyears - "Circle the wagons!"  - ???? - grin
[02:02] <rmflagg> Is there anyone that can help me out with a GDM problem?
[02:02] <asfra> rob_p: I've got the outbound policy permissive by default, no entries in the table. I'll try to add the internal computers ip in the inbound policy
[02:04] <apokryphos> rmflagg: no-one can without knowing the problem. Don't ask to ask. :)
[02:04] <johnio> rmflagg: whats your problem
[02:04] <johnio> ...
[02:05] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me what to change in the smb.conf file to make me ubuntu box see the LAN maintained by a win2k server?
[02:05] <crube> Hey I've got a problem with changing my desktop resolution under Gnome. I've trie reconfiguring my xorg.conf using fglrxconfig, and I made a working config file with multiple resolutions. Still I get the error message that my xserver doesn't support XRandR. This problem occured after changing from KDE to GNOME. I was able to change REs under KDE with no problems before
[02:05] <thechitowncubs> how is windows performance through VMware?
[02:05] <rmflagg> I have to ask first, otherwise people tend to just ignore the question...just the way it is!
[02:05] <NoUse> !resolution
[02:05] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:05] <thechitowncubs> !resizepratition
[02:05] <ubotu> thechitowncubs: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:06] <thechitowncubs> !resizepartition
[02:06] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, thechitowncubs
[02:06] <rmflagg> GDM no longer asks to change the default session, what do I have to change to get it to ask again?
[02:06] <thechitowncubs> What is required to resize an ext3 partition?
[02:06] <apokryphos> crube: do you have xrandr stuff installed?
[02:06] <iiiears> qtparted or gparted
[02:07] <knowledge_> nalioth, I got both computers up and running...what did you say I need to install for them to recognise each other?
[02:07] <thechitowncubs> iiiears: what type of livecd can i use that doesn't mount the hard drive, so i can edit the partitions?
[02:07] <thechitowncubs> or wait, can i resize them with the ubuntu installer cd?
[02:07] <westermann> hey
[02:07] <apokryphos> hi there
[02:08] <westermann> ich hab mir nen kernel selber kompiliert und vergessen ne initrd zu erstellen, kann ich das nachtrglich machen?
[02:08] <nalioth> knowledge_: on your machine with the 10gb HD, make sure openssh-server is installed
[02:08] <nalioth> westermann: im #ubuntu-de, bitte
[02:08] <medamaybe> any samba specialists ?
[02:09] <buulian> seveas: is it possible to have a picture come up while linux is loading, instead of the prompt text?
[02:09] <knowledge_> nalioth, ok, then what?
[02:09] <Stormx> Yo, can I write you guys a fan letter?
[02:09] <rmflagg> johnio: GDM no longer asks to change the default session, what do I have to change to get it to ask again?
[02:09] <westermann> nalioth, sorry
[02:09] <crube> apokryphos,  yes I have XRandR stuff installed.
[02:09] <nalioth> on your new install, sftp into your 10gb machine (use gftp with ssh2 mode)
[02:09] <juanej> anyone using xfce?
[02:09] <buulian> juanej: fluxbox
[02:09] <juanej> i want that maximized windows can't be resized
[02:09] <buulian> juanej: it's better
[02:10] <juanej> i didnt like it
[02:10] <buulian> juanej: for every one their own
[02:10] <juanej> hehe
[02:10] <asfra> rob_p: still here?
[02:10] <buulian> does anyone know if it possible to have a picture come up while linux is loading, instead of the prompt text?
[02:10] <knowledge_> nalioth, Logout and use tty1?
[02:10] <rob_p> asfra:  Yeah... sorry about that!  My connection has been suffering today :-)
[02:11] <nalioth> knowledge_: nah, go ahead and do it from your account, then logout and back in
[02:11] <GazaM> hey... could someone tell me if ubuntuforums.org is down? I keep getting connection refused when trying to get to it.
[02:11] <knowledge_> oh ok
[02:11] <nalioth> knowledge_: use gftp (ssh2) for easy xfer
[02:11] <johnio> nakata: same for me
[02:11] <rob_p> asfra:  The weather isn't particularly poor either... not sure what is causing it.  Anyway, did you get it to work yet?
[02:11] <johnio> nalioth: it seems to be
[02:12] <buulian> does anyone know if it possible to have a picture come up while linux is loading, instead of the prompt text?
[02:12] <kemik> buulian:  think they're fixing that in breezy
[02:12] <buulian> awesome
[02:12] <asfra> rob_p: I understodd from google that my eth0 card shouldn't have the eth1 card as gateway. However, I cant ping a remote adress from my eth0 card either.
[02:12] <reiki> run fetchmail as daemon or cron?
[02:12] <buulian> when's breezy coming out?
[02:12] <buulian> soon right?
[02:12] <Xappe> october
[02:12] <buulian> how do you do that manually?
[02:12] <johnio> reiki: i ran it as a cron
[02:12] <reiki> buulian: October
[02:12] <lvraab> october
[02:12] <buulian> ONE MORE MONTH!!!???
[02:13] <buulian> NOOOOOOOO
[02:13] <asfra> rob_p: and when I traceroute the eth1 card from my internal computer it doesn't list the eth0 card
[02:13] <buulian> another question: how do you make ubuntu "hibernate" ???
[02:13] <TaSSiS> Ubuntu cames with KDE?
[02:13] <iiiears> buulian i believe you can add a simple low res pic to grub on boot up no?
[02:13] <asfra> rob_p: should my local card on the external computer have the wireless card as gateway?
[02:13] <reiki> johnio: when run as a cron.... you can still run fetchmail between cron timings... correct?
[02:14] <lvraab> TaSSiS: Kubuntu does
[02:14] <rob_p> asfra:  The box providing the NAT services uses the gateway specified by your router, ISP, etc.  Don't put a gateway for the internal interface.  Otherwise your box will try to use the internal interface for it's gateway which is NOT what you want.
[02:14] <buulian> iiiears: i'd like the picture to take the place of the prompt text- like a bootscreen under windows os
[02:14] <iiiears> sounds nice
[02:14] <nalioth> buulian: there will be a bootsplash editor in breezy, i believe
[02:15] <buulian> where can i find out for sure?
[02:15] <buulian> forum?
[02:15] <rmflagg> apokryphos: This is what I was talking about.  I ask the question and I get ignored...if I ask to ask, at least I get a response of some sort.
[02:15] <apokryphos> rmflagg: why does that mean you should ask to ask?
[02:16] <durt> does anybody know how to disable clicking when the touchpad is tapped?
[02:16] <iiiears> buulian google images grub splash screen  - some nice pics
[02:16] <solidunit> are the english forums down?
[02:16] <ilba7r> anyone know how to run a boot script with specific shell like open box /enlightenment
[02:16] <rmflagg> So that someone who might have a clue could be targeted with the question at hand.
[02:16] <buulian> iiiears: will that do the same as a bootscreen>
[02:17] <rmflagg> ...and it IS polite.
[02:17] <buulian> oh
[02:17] <ilba7r> I used to do it before usin .xsession
[02:17] <buulian> iiiears: google is a charm
[02:17] <rob_p> asfra:  Here's what you need to achieve, the box providing the NAT services will get it's IP, DNS, gateway, etc. from your router/ISP/whatever.  It's internal interface will have an IP address that you assign manually (usually something like 192.168.1.1).  Then, all the internal hosts that will be relying on that box for their connections need to have IP addresses assigned within the 192.168.1.0/24 network range.  They will
[02:17] <rob_p> also have to have their default gateway set to the NAT box's internal IP address.
[02:17] <sorush20> I need help.. I'm trying to install a plug in gkerllm and i don't know how to do it.. can some one help please..
[02:18] <medamaybe> rob_p, guess what....it's not working :)
[02:18] <buulian> Grub Splashimages aren't the same thing
[02:18] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Can you ping the computer you want to access?
[02:19] <tristanmike> forums are still down!?
[02:19] <medamaybe> yeah I can, the computer I want to access provides my internet connection
[02:19] <macgyver2> yeah, tristanmike, still down...
[02:19] <buulian> basically i'd like the same thing as RedHat- the "Non-Verbose" startup
[02:19] <tristanmike> wow, they've been down since early this afternoon
[02:20] <tristanmike> macgyver2, thanx
[02:20] <TheRaginAsian> anyone else lose clearlooks-olive and the update-notifier after latest updates?
[02:20] <macgyver2> tristanmike, np
[02:20] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: in Breezy?
[02:20] <TheRaginAsian> yep
[02:20] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: please don't upgrade AT ALL for at least the next 6 hours.
[02:20] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Ahhh, so you're using something to provide Internet connection sharing... this means that you are probably using a firewall that configures this for you.  In that case, you need to unblock ports 137-139 and 445.
[02:20] <TheRaginAsian> lol o really?
[02:20] <NoUse> buulian I think it requires a kernel patch or two, if you google ubuntu bootsplash you might find some HOWTOs
[02:21] <TheRaginAsian> no one told me that WAHH!H! lol
[02:21] <TheRaginAsian> whats up?
[02:21] <TaxMan> I'm trying to follow LiveCDCustomizationHowTo in the wiki, but I got confused at the customizations stage. "Updating Specific Packages" is quite confusing. What is this "dir-holding-all-packages"? Obviously it doesn't exist. What should I replace it with when I follow that section?
[02:21] <TheRaginAsian> crimsun: what goin on right now?
[02:21] <buulian> MoUse: that'll accomplish what i'm after?
[02:21] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: there's a good chance that if you're not paying attention, you'll lose all of ubuntu-desktop
[02:21] <medamaybe> hmm..I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[02:21] <sjg> oo
[02:21] <TheRaginAsian> oh really why?
[02:21] <medamaybe> I'll describe my LAN
[02:21] <NoUse> buulian I believe so
[02:21] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: (well, not all, but anything that depends on libcairo2)
[02:21] <TheRaginAsian> yeah I noticed it pulled cairo
[02:21] <TheRaginAsian> whats up with that
[02:22] <medamaybe> I have a win2000 server, which is connected to the internet and that's the pc I want to access.. then there's my workstation, which is ubuntu, and I want to be able to access the shared drives on my win2k server
[02:22] <crimsun> the Debian maintainer rebuilt cairo without glitz, which essentially means Ubuntu has to rebuild everything that depends on cairo.
[02:22] <seanj> hilo
[02:22] <medamaybe> I have a firewall on the server
[02:22] <seanj> crimsun, is that why GPG sigs aren't matching or missing ?
[02:22] <sjg> crimsun, ack
[02:22] <medamaybe> and it's set to allow all connections from my workstation
[02:22] <TheRaginAsian> crimsun: do you know whats happening?
[02:23] <TheRaginAsian> yeah I definetly lost cairo
[02:23] <seanj> GPG error: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[02:23] <tristanmike> that sounds pretty crappy
[02:23] <knowledge_> nalioth, I'm sorry to keep bothering you but, how do I share the folder over samba?
[02:23] <crimsun> seanj: that has nothing to do with GPG.
[02:23] <knowledge_> I can't seem to view it
[02:23] <buulian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplash
[02:23] <Flonne> So (almost) every component of Gnome is being rebuilt?
[02:23] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: the safe thing to do is simply to refrain from updating/dist-upgrading for at least 6 hours
[02:23] <seanj> -.- ok then can i assume none of the ubuntu repo stuff is reliable and go use fuddora or something instead ?
[02:24] <TheRaginAsian> well its a little late from me lol
[02:24] <TheRaginAsian> *for
[02:24] <claude> Hi, anyone know how can I use my dvi output instead of my analog output of my video card ?
[02:24] <rob_p> medamaybe:  the server, as in the machine on which you want to access windows shares?
[02:24] <TheRaginAsian> is there a posting somewhere about this you could link me to?
[02:24] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: eh, I lost X.Org and all of GNOME.
[02:24] <seanj> welp, i think i'll go get exploited with my critically vulernable system
[02:24] <seanj> cya
[02:24] <TheRaginAsian> OMG seriously?
[02:24] <TheRaginAsian> holy crap
[02:24] <TheRaginAsian> whats going on!!!
[02:24] <medamaybe> the server is on the win2000 pc
[02:24] <asfra> rob_p: yeah, I understand. thanks alot for your help. The machine connected to the internet connects trought a wlan card which is eth1, same machine connects to another not connected to the internet, it then uses the eth0 card. when trying to ping remote adresses with the eth0 card, it fails. I think this is what it all comes down to, since the eth0 card is the gateway for the other machine...
[02:24] <medamaybe> so yes
[02:25] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: yeah, I lost a lot more thanks to my stupid use of dist-upgrade. I would have been fine with upgrade.
[02:25] <nalioth> knowledge_: i dont do windows, so have very little knowledge about samba
[02:25] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: moral of the story: don't touch any upgrading for a bit
[02:25] <nalioth> knowledge_: i recommend booting a ubuntu livecd
[02:25] <medamaybe> uhm..the firewall is on the windows2000 pc, which has the files I want to access
[02:25] <TheRaginAsian> so i take it you reinstalled then?
[02:25] <TheRaginAsian> what exactly are they doing?
[02:25] <knowledge_> nalioth, no no...desktop is running the 10 gig..with a live cd, and my laptop is running a fresh install
[02:25] <Flonne> TheRaginAsian, cairo is a fairly central library. A *ton* of graphical elements have it as an inherited dependency.
[02:25] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Did you allow filesharing in the firewall?
[02:25] <TaxMan> I fail to understand the commands under "Updating Specific Packages" in wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo. Can someone help me understand what I need to replace "dir-holding-all-packages" with?
[02:26] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: no, I thanked $deity for /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:26] <buulian> once breezy comes out, all i have to do is "apt-get upgrade" right?
[02:26] <nalioth> knowledge_: then again, your samba question is confusing me
[02:26] <apokryphos> buulian: you will need to change your sources first
[02:26] <Flonne> buulian, apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:26] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: everything that depends on gtk2 is being rebuilt. As you might guess, that's a LOT.
[02:26] <buulian> cool thanks
[02:26] <medamaybe> well, the other computers (all windows) in my LAN don't have a problem connecting and viewing the shares on the win2000 pc
[02:26] <TheRaginAsian> wow... why the rebuild?
[02:26] <crube> !resolution
[02:26] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:26] <TheRaginAsian> how do you know all this too lol I cant find where to get info like this on Ubuntu
[02:26] <knowledge_> nalioth, I was trying to figure out a "graphical" way of swaping the files
[02:26] <TheRaginAsian> I only started using Ubuntu the other night
[02:27] <nalioth> knowledge_: use gftp from your new install
[02:27] <TheRaginAsian> last time I did an upgrade everything went well
[02:27] <Tortel> is there a way to acess a windows partition?
[02:27] <apokryphos> crimsun: any idea bout problems with drivers in breezy? Latest linux-restricted-modules doesn't have i.e. nvidia.ko; few people have had problems with that here...
[02:27] <apokryphos> Tortel: yes, mount it.
[02:27] <dooglus> Tortel: if it's NTFS, you can mount it but only for reading.
[02:27] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: like I mentioned above, the Debian maintainer pulled glitz from cairo, which means that Ubuntu has to resync and rebuild - quite an ugly build process.
[02:27] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: I just read -devel scrollback.
[02:27] <monkey89> im sure tons of people are asking this if its true, but are the ubuntu forums down?
[02:27] <crimsun> monkey89: yes
[02:28] <monkey89> ok, thank you
[02:28] <TheRaginAsian> ohhh... devel scrollback?
[02:28] <nalioth> crimsun: when is the onjoin msg coming?
[02:28] <nalioth> crimsun: re the downed forums?
[02:28] <rob_p> asfra:  Once you get your network setup properly, the Internet connection sharing is pretty easy but until your network is configured correctly, you don't have a prayer :-)
[02:29] <crube> Ok I give up :( After reconfiguring xorg.config and setting up loads of things I still can't change the Res in Gnome :P Well I think I'll continue tomorrow. :)
[02:29] <dooglus> Tortel: I use "mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/c"
[02:29] <Tortel> oo
[02:29] <Tortel> thanks
[02:29] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Then apparently your Windows server isn't firewalling that type of traffic.  So that means you're down to configuration issues with Samba...
[02:29] <matt_> Hi, how can I add squashfs to ubuntu? is there a kernel module?
[02:30] <medamaybe> lol..I could've told you that..;)
[02:30] <solidunit> are there e17 packages for hoary?
[02:30] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I'm looking for the command, to start fglrxconfig JUST for the monitor-setup
[02:30] <apokryphos> Tortel: for it to be done whenever you start up your computer etc you will have to put in an entry into /etc/fstab
[02:30] <jamie_1> i am back... anyone else seill here?
[02:30] <ray> im here
[02:30] <medamaybe> I changed the workgroup and the security level,  I don't know what else to change
[02:30] <apokryphos> Tortel: i.e.   /dev/hdb3       /media/windoze  ntfs    umask=0222      0       0
[02:30] <jamie_1> well....... i am jamie... anyone i have run into earlier still here?
[02:30] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Are you using share level or user level authentication?
[02:31] <TheRaginAsian> so if I wait for everything to get updated then upgrade will my missing stuff come back or am I fuxord until I either reinstall Colony 3 or wait for final?
[02:31] <medamaybe> share
[02:31] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Ok.  That is typical for most users.
[02:31] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: you should be fine updating && upgrading (and reinstalling just the removed packages) in about a day
[02:31] <rob_p> medamaybe:  did you set the right workgroup name in the config file?
[02:32] <medamaybe> yeah I did
[02:32] <medamaybe> I double checked it
[02:32] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Did you specify a share and make it available, etc?
[02:32] <apokryphos> solidunit: yes, in the nooms repo
[02:32] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell solidunit about e
[02:32] <apokryphos> gah, someone deleted the factoid. Annoying.
[02:33] <matt_> Hi, how can I add squashfs to ubuntu? is there a kernel module?
[02:33] <medamaybe> on the win2000, yeah, there's a share, the windows computers can see it
[02:33] <apokryphos> solidunit: deb http://ubuntu.nooms.de/ hoary/
[02:34] <TheRaginAsian> crimsun: thanks. how do i track down what needs to be install lol
[02:34] <asfra> rob_p: portscan from my internal machine says that the machine connected to the internet only has ports 21,22 and 2628 open. Firestarter says that the internal interface is trying send packages to a bunch of other different ports. Could this be it, or should NAT do the trick?
[02:34] <TheRaginAsian> *be reinstalled that is
[02:34] <TheRaginAsian> is there an apt log
[02:34] <TaxMan> I fail to understand the commands under "Updating Specific Packages" in wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo. Can someone help me understand what I need to replace "dir-holding-all-packages" with?
[02:34] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Oh yeah, I forgot that you were trying to see a share on the Windoze box and not the Linux one.  Do this, specify a share and make it viewable, available, etc. and see if you can browse it from the Windows box.
[02:34] <medamaybe> ok
[02:34] <medamaybe> back in a few
[02:35] <fluvvell> I have previously compiled and installed 536ep modem drivers under Mandrake, but am having trouble figuring whats missing under ubuntu.  Can someone enlighten me?
[02:35] <jamie_1> mandrake?
[02:36] <HrdwrBoB> 536ep?
[02:36] <jamie_1> fluvvell: my dad said that mandrake didn't even work anymore!
[02:36] <HrdwrBoB> jamie_1: no because it's not madriva
[02:36] <HrdwrBoB> mandriva
[02:36] <ray> its mandriva now
[02:36] <fluvvell> yes
[02:36] <HrdwrBoB> pronounced 'man driver'
[02:36] <xulMunkee> lol
[02:36] <jamie_1> sorry
[02:36] <rob_p> asfra:  Since I don't know exactly how firestarter configures things, I could only give guesses.  However, you do need some sort of NAT services active if you want the internal hosts to have access to the outside world through the Linux box.
[02:36] <apokryphos> Mandrake+Connectiva
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: I was taking the piss :)
[02:37] <xulMunkee> lol
[02:37] <fluvvell> lol, sorry
[02:37] <ray> anybody try mandriva?
[02:37] <medamaybe> rob_p,  I can see the share on my ubuntu box from my windows box
[02:37] <jamie_1> well, so did I
[02:37] <Inkeh> or Mandrivoris xD
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: ok, your model driver is most likely in linux-restricted-mofules
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: ok, your model driver is most likely in linux-restricted-modules
[02:37] <TheRaginAsian> so what exactly does it mean if it says "Depends: package_foo But is not going to be installed"
[02:37] <solidunit> are there e17 packages for hoary?
[02:37] <fluvvell> oh, I had dl'd the tar.gz from intel.
[02:37] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop|egrep '^(p|n)'
[02:38] <crimsun> err
[02:38] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Cool!  This is good.  I'd say you're almost there :-)
[02:38] <crimsun> make that p|r
[02:38] <medamaybe> lol
[02:38] <kermitvanfrosch> Hello :)
[02:38] <medamaybe> almost there is not good enough ;)
[02:38] <jamie_1> hi
[02:38] <kermitvanfrosch> I'm considering switching from SuSE 9.3 pro to Ubuntu and have a few questions
[02:39] <xulMunkee> egrep '^(p|r)' is same as grep '^[pr] ' no?
[02:39] <kermitvanfrosch> How usable is Colony 3 ?
[02:39] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Ok, so when you go to, Places --> Network Servers, do you see the Windows machine?
[02:39] <fluvvell> HrdwrBob: it says ltwinmodem, but not specifically 536 ham
[02:39] <kermitvanfrosch> Or is Ubuntu 5.04 still the best choice?
[02:40] <xulMunkee> kermitvanfrosch, i love ze ubuntu yaho!
[02:40] <kermitvanfrosch> I especially need good out-of-the-box hardware-support
[02:40] <jamie_1> i think 5.04 is till the best..... nicht sure
[02:40] <medamaybe> no, I don't
[02:41] <TheRaginAsian> kermitvanfrosch Colony 3 is very usable... just dont upgrade right now lol
[02:41] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: it's pretty much as simple as reinstalling ubuntu-desktop after updating in a day
[02:41] <ray> anyone here like fedora?
[02:41] <kermitvanfrosch> How easy would it be to keep the 5.10 betas stable? Should be no big deal with apt or is it?
[02:41] <medamaybe> I see "windows network", and when I click on it I see nothing
[02:41] <TheRaginAsian> oh why thank you crimsun
[02:41] <TheRaginAsian> will that fix Clearlooks you think?
[02:41] <kermitvanfrosch> sorry: I meant "current" nbot "stable"
[02:41] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: it'll fix everything
[02:41] <TheRaginAsian> is there any reason that Olive got removed?
[02:41] <TheRaginAsian> oh alright neat
[02:41] <TheRaginAsian> kewl thanks that makes life easy
[02:41] <rob_p> medamaybe:  I can't remember if I asked you this already but are you running a local firewall on your Linux box?
[02:41] <TheRaginAsian> so crimsun are you a devel or something?
[02:41] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: basically anything with a dependency on gtk2 got yanked if you used dist-upgrade
[02:42] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: I'm a MOTU
[02:42] <kermitvanfrosch> @raginasian, I don't want to upgrade, I'm considering a clean install
[02:42] <medamaybe> you didn't ask that, and no, not running a firewall on the local box
[02:42] <TheRaginAsian> MOTU?
[02:42] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:42] <TheRaginAsian> kermitvanfrosch: yeah, clean install from Colony 3 I did and it worked great
[02:42] <crimsun> kermitvanfrosch: a clean of Colony 3 should work fine.
[02:42] <crimsun> kermitvanfrosch: just don't update/upgrade past it for the next day.
[02:42] <knowledge_> how do I reconfigure X (command line)
[02:43] <kermitvanfrosch> Keeping it current after that?
[02:43] <fluvvell> HrdwrBob: are you familiar with the
[02:43] <fluvvell> In
[02:43] <crimsun> knowledge_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:43] <fluvvell> tel
[02:43] <kermitvanfrosch> aptg-get update or apt-get upgrade?
[02:43] <fluvvell> 536ep
[02:43] <TheRaginAsian> ohhh neat
[02:43] <kermitvanfrosch> big deal or no problem?
[02:43] <crimsun> kermitvanfrosch: correct. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[02:44] <kermitvanfrosch> That will update to the latest beta release, top the "current" branch or?
[02:44] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: no
[02:44] <TheRaginAsian> kewl title crimsun lol
[02:44] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: I just did some brief research, looks like a giant pain in the bum
[02:45] <rob_p> medamaybe:  When you open, Places --> Network Servers and then select, "reload" under the, "view" tab, do you get an icon that says, "Windows Network?"
[02:45] <medamaybe> yes
[02:45] <knowledge_> crimsun, you're the mann!
[02:45] <sorush20> I need help.. I'm trying to install a plug in gkerllm and i don't know how to do it.. can some one help please..
[02:46] <medamaybe> that icon has always been there
[02:46] <rob_p> medamaybe:  If so, when you open, "Windows Network", does a reload on that window show your Windows box?
[02:46] <fluvvell> HrdwrBob: hmm, if I could get compiling to happen, I'd feel a lot better
[02:46] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: apt-get install build-essential
[02:46] <medamaybe> no, it doesn't
[02:46] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: what I've read indicates the driver is only for 2.4?
[02:46] <kermitvanfrosch> How easy is it in ubuntu to give gtk+ apps a qute-like-look under kde and the other way round ... like SuSE and Fedora do it?
[02:47] <kermitvanfrosch> I like it when things look consistent
[02:47] <fluvvell> HrdwrBob:the intel site has it working under 2.6
[02:47] <nalioth> kermitvanfrosch: ubuntu is LINUX, so its as easy as in any other linux
[02:47] <kermitvanfrosch> I do know that ...
[02:47] <TheRaginAsian> lol, I just realized...
[02:47] <kermitvanfrosch> but other distos do it out-of-the-box ... there's nothing easier than that :)
[02:47] <TheRaginAsian> I was going to ask if there was a blog or something to know when to upgrade or not
[02:48] <kermitvanfrosch> just wondering if I just need to install a few packages or if it's a great deal of configuration-work
[02:48] <jamie_1> gtg, bb
[02:49] <nalioth> kermitvanfrosch: there are many themes available
[02:49] <kermitvanfrosch> It's not about the seems
[02:49] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Then I'm out of ideas for the moment...  The fact that you can access the Linux box's share from the Windows box means that things are functioning.  Why you can't see the shares on the Windows box from the Linux box is beyond me.  It should work though.
[02:49] <kermitvanfrosch> Under SuSE if I run Firefox in KDE it uses qute-like-qidgets
[02:50] <medamaybe> :(
[02:50] <kermitvanfrosch> under ubunut 5.04 firefox uses plain gtk+ widgets without any skin
[02:50] <medamaybe> thanks for trying
[02:50] <drew> I get an error that says: could not stat (insert hoary extras or backports URL here)
[02:50] <fluvvell> HrdwrBob: thanx, am installing build-essentials now
[02:50] <codecaine> Anyone in here help me on auto-loading python scripts for xchat2?
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: cool
[02:50] <codecaine> I put them in .xchat2 home and they don't auto-load
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> fluvvell: you will also need linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:51] <rob_p> medamaybe:  give it some time... maybe it takes some time for the cache list of windows hosts to be updated or something similar.
[02:52] <fluvvell> HrdwrBob: think I have them already, its now looking for autoconf.h - but wait, these are in /usr/include, whys it looking in ...
[02:52] <Tripp> I've install Pengaol, and it requires QTkylix to run, but the file Pengui is missing, any ideas?
[02:52] <pfp> hey, is there any documentation on how booting on raid (R-1) is done in hoary?
[02:53] <crimsun> kermitvanfrosch: you need gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[02:53] <crimsun> kermitvanfrosch: then configure it in KControl
[02:53] <rob_p> medamaybe:  You could even try rebooting the Windows box to see if it shows up in the list after the reboot...
[02:53] <fluvvell> HrdwrBob: should I copy autoconf.h into the directory maybe?
[02:53] <codecaine> Tripp, mdadm, md are part of the process
[02:53] <medamaybe> ok, I'll try that tomorrow
[02:53] <rob_p> medamaybe:  Anyway, good luck with it.
[02:53] <medamaybe> it's 3am at the moment :)
[02:53] <medamaybe> thanks rob
[02:53] <kermitvanfrosch> @crimsun
[02:53] <kermitvanfrosch> thanks
[02:53] <rob_p> medamaybe:  for me too!
[02:53] <Tripp> What is part of the process?
[02:54] <medamaybe> in fact, thanks A LOT :)
[02:54] <asfra> rob_p: I CAN connect to remote adresses now. However, it is a DNS problem. When I type the ip-it works, but not the name. Any clues on what I can do?
[02:54] <rob_p> medamaybe:  No problem!  Take care.
[02:54] <c0rrupt_> whats the program in kubuntu that automaticaly searches for programs not added to the panel?
[02:54] <medamaybe> tc
[02:54] <rob_p> asfra:  Did you specify DNS ip addresses in the network configurations on the internal hosts?
[02:54] <sjg> mmm psp just bought for 110 bucks :P
[02:55] <vader1102> medamaybe, are you sure it isn't WINS?
[02:55] <asfra> rob_p: nope, I have not.. Then I can just type the ones used in the external computer?
[02:55] <rob_p> asfra:  Do a, "cat /etc/resolv.conf" on the box providing the NAT services.  Then use those IP addresses for the DNS entries on the internal hosts.
[02:55] <rob_p> asfra:  yes
[02:56] <pfp> ... i'm familiar with mdadm and the kernel autodetecting swraid arrays, but hoary uses some initrd magick it seems :O
[02:56] <asfra> rob_p: great, I think it will work now. It just have to!! :-)
[02:56] <medamaybe> vader1102, WINS...how?
[02:56] <juanej> hey, azureus downloaded from repositories doesnt work for me
[02:56] <TheRaginAsian> so what is the big White Bar in the Bootsplash for?
[02:56] <juanej> i cant update
[02:56] <TheRaginAsian> future upgrade
[02:56] <bleck> is anyone running e17?
[02:56] <juanej> is there a .deb or something?
[02:56] <crimsun> TheRaginAsian: it'll be a progress bar eventually
[02:56] <vader1102> well, if you are trying to use the pc name it would be WINS wouldn't it be?
[02:56] <TheRaginAsian> oh neat
[02:57] <TheRaginAsian> jeez crimsun can you tell me my future too?
[02:57] <TheRaginAsian> lol
[02:57] <crimsun> hah, nope
[02:57] <TheRaginAsian> you seem to be able to answer everything else
[02:57] <crimsun> only a small subset of "everything else"
[02:57] <medamaybe> I'm not using any pc names
[02:57] <TheRaginAsian> haha, enough to make me go "wow"
[02:58] <TheRaginAsian> I just cant believe how impressed I am with Ubuntu
[02:58] <vader1102> sorry mis-read then
[02:58] <medamaybe> np
[02:58] <c0rrupt_> whats the program in kubuntu that automaticaly searches for programs not added to the panel?
[02:58] <HrdwrBoB> c0rrupt_: that would be #kubuntu
[02:58] <TheRaginAsian> I mean, im using a snapshot release, which happenes to run beautifully and excellently
[02:58] <c0rrupt_> heh
[02:58] <Tortel> gah
[02:58] <TheRaginAsian> its absoluetly amazing
[02:59] <rob_p> asfra:  By the way, if you are interested in an alternative to firestarter, I wrote a stateful firewall specifically for Ubuntu Linux that also provides NAT functionality if you care to try it out.  You can get more details here: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/27/1/
[02:59] <Tortel> how do i mount a device when im not the root user?
[02:59] <sorush20> is there a firewall like alramzone for Ubuntu
[02:59] <TheRaginAsian> and the level of usablitiy that Gnome has in Ubuntu is just unmatched
[02:59] <c0rrupt_> sudo
[02:59] <c0rrupt_> -.-
[02:59] <sorush20> how can I find out my cpu temp..
[02:59] <c0rrupt_> touch it
[02:59] <c0rrupt_> gkrellm
[02:59] <sorush20> c0rrupt_: ha ha
[02:59] <nalioth> sorush20: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[02:59] <kevin_> how do i burn music cd's?
[03:00] <kevin_> In nautilus all it does is burn the files...
[03:00] <c0rrupt_> throw them in the microwave
[03:00] <TheRaginAsian> oh wow im going to just avoid upgrading anything for awhile...
[03:00] <kevin_> Hahah.. very funny
[03:00] <TheRaginAsian> all I wanted to do was install the nvidia driver and it wanted to pull rhythmbox on me lol
[03:00] <nalioth> kevin_: use k3b
[03:00] <kevin_> ink
[03:00] <TheRaginAsian> I agree with nalioth
[03:00] <kevin_> in gnome?
[03:00] <Tortel> how do i mount a device when im not the root user?
[03:01] <TheRaginAsian> there is Gnomebaker or Graveman if you dont want K3B but K3B really is the best
[03:01] <crimsun> Tortel: by prefacing mount with sudo
[03:01] <smoet> I have a silly question... how on earth can you configure services?
[03:01] <sorush20> nalioth: thanks for the firewall tip..
[03:01] <sorush20> is anyone here using GKrellM
[03:01] <|QuaD-> how can i tell if X is crashing, or gdm is grashing?
[03:02] <TimmahDaP> has anyone here tried to install ubuntu just to recover files from a broken windows xp?
[03:02] <kermitvanfrosch> Is it possible to "install" the grub bootloader into a single binary-file so I can integrate it into the NT-bootloader?
[03:02] <kermitvanfrosch> or do I need to install it somewhere and do a dd later on?
[03:02] <HrdwrBoB> kermitvanfrosch: the NT bootloader is an abomination
[03:02] <|QuaD-> TimmahDaP: thats what livecds are for
[03:02] <HrdwrBoB> .. just quietly
[03:02] <kermitvanfrosch> I know ... grub is better ...
[03:02] <crimsun> kermitvanfrosch: GRUB works fine with NT's loader.
[03:02] <HrdwrBoB> you can easily reinstall grub with a liveCD
[03:02] <crimsun> kermitvanfrosch: just install GRUB to the MBR.
[03:02] <asfra> rob_p: thanks for the help, and the tip, I'll check it out!
[03:03] <rob_p> asfra:  I take it that worked?
[03:03] <sorush20> apt-get install acroread installs and old version 5.0 , however the mozilla pluging for acrobat reader needs adobe acrobat reader 7 has somone fixed this problem..
[03:03] <kermitvanfrosch> But I test a lot of Windows OS and since they love to overwrite the MBR it's easiest to just let grub be loaded be the nt-bootloader
[03:03] <codecaine> just chroot to / and run grub-install right?
[03:03] <TimmahDaP> quad: i can do that but then I want to burn them to CD
[03:03] <Copland> Where do I get the Java JRE so I can use java applets in my browser
[03:03] <Copland> and so i can use azuerus
[03:03] <TimmahDaP> only one CD-ROM drive
[03:04] <Kyral> ubotu tell Copland about java
[03:04] <|QuaD-> TimmahDaP: you aren't going to burn anything with a CD-ROM drive :)
[03:04] <TimmahDaP> lol...
[03:04] <TimmahDaP> CD-RW i guess
[03:04] <Kyral> !botsnack
[03:04] <ubotu> :)
[03:05] <|QuaD-> so no one has any hints to see if X or gdm or gnome is crashing?
[03:05] <Kyral> good bot...
[03:05] <c0rrupt_> where are all of the network interfaces and their config located
[03:05] <TheRaginAsian> |QuaD: logout of Gnome
[03:05] <TheRaginAsian> and see what happenes
[03:05] <|QuaD-> TheRaginAsian: if it wasn't frozen i would :)
[03:05] <TheRaginAsian> if GDM catches you I dont think its GDM
[03:05] <TheRaginAsian> oh lol
[03:05] <rob_p> c0rrupt_:  /etc/network/interfaces
[03:05] <TheRaginAsian> can you ctrl+alt+bkspace
[03:06] <|QuaD-> TheRaginAsian: that doesn't work
[03:06] <dracflamloc> ubuntu rocks =)
[03:06] <|QuaD-> its completely frozen
[03:06] <|QuaD-> if that doesn't work... its X?
[03:06] <TheRaginAsian> yeah, are you using a hardware driver
[03:06] <c0rrupt_> at my boot
[03:07] <c0rrupt_> it hangs at configuring network
[03:07] <|QuaD-> TheRaginAsian: currently using nv, does the same with nvidia though
[03:07] <c0rrupt_> i dont know why..
[03:07] <c0rrupt_> i also cant ping localhost
[03:07] <smoet> why isn't there a standard option that let me configure services...
[03:07] <TheRaginAsian> hmm... I dunno then
[03:07] <|QuaD-> c0rrupt_: you try sudo dhclient?
[03:07] <asfra> rob_p: Yeah, now it actually works! I should have thought of DNS earlier, to late at night I guess. However, thanks alot..
[03:07] <crimsun> smoet: "configure" how?
[03:07] <c0rrupt_> well
[03:07] <c0rrupt_> im connected just fine
[03:07] <c0rrupt_> someone in here fixed it before
[03:07] <c0rrupt_> but i forgot how
[03:07] <c0rrupt_> :'(
[03:07] <TheRaginAsian> |QuaD: id love you help you out but im just a ubuntu convert like 2 days ago so I dont have a clue
[03:08] <smoet> crimsun: like shutting down ipp or smtp
[03:08] <crimsun> smoet: sure there is: man update-rc.d
[03:08] <TheRaginAsian> In arch if X froze it was the nvidia driver lol
[03:08] <TheRaginAsian> well, im going to go eat though, ill be bakc later
[03:08] <|QuaD-> TheRaginAsian: no worries, i have been using since oct, and i can't figure htis one out (and before oct, i used debian for a few years)
[03:08] <|QuaD-> ttyl
[03:08] <crimsun> smoet: if you need to configure the actual programs, dpkg-reconfigure $package
[03:08] <rob_p> asfra:  Cool!  Glad it's working for you now.  Take care.
[03:08] <c0rrupt_> ok |QuaD-
[03:08] <c0rrupt_> a quick
[03:08] <|QuaD-> i am not leaving
[03:09] <smoet> just a program that let's me view all the services and if they are running or not. like with most distro's
[03:09] <smoet> guess that isn't possible thanks though crimsun
[03:09] <c0rrupt_> /etc/init.d/networking restart fixed it
[03:09] <c0rrupt_> but i think something is fu*king up at boot
[03:09] <c0rrupt_> it freezes
[03:09] <c0rrupt_> until i ctrl+C
[03:09] <c0rrupt_> "configuring network interfaces"
[03:09] <|QuaD-> c0rrupt_: i am not that good with the networking
[03:09] <c0rrupt_> bleh
[03:09] <vitriol> wnere can i find docs on the ubuntu installer and how it works? i want to check out a copy of the latest installer from cvs/svn/whatever
[03:09] <c0rrupt_> seveas
[03:10] <c0rrupt_> is
[03:10] <c0rrupt_> ;)
[03:10] <vitriol> i know the ubuntu installer is essentially d-i but i wanna get it directly from ubuntu complete with any modifications...
[03:10] <jeye> hello
[03:11] <codecaine> anyone in here help me get python scripts auto-loaded in xchat?
[03:12] <knowledge_> ok...I've tried everything...how do I get the files from my desktop (ubuntu) to my laptop (ubuntu)?!!??!..
[03:12] <knowledge_> this is driving me nuts
[03:12] <NoUse> knowledge_ ssh
[03:13] <knowledge_> anything with a graphical interface?
[03:13] <dooglus> knowledge_: use ftp or scp?
[03:13] <knowledge_> I'm terrible with command
[03:13] <jeye> dooglus: try sftp :D
[03:13] <NoUse> Gnome network places support sftp I believe
[03:13] <nooneelse> i'm trying install some packages using apt-get install package
[03:13] <nalioth> knowledge_: what procedure have you done?
[03:14] <nooneelse> but it isnt installing the dependencies
[03:14] <nooneelse> why its happening ?
[03:14] <knowledge_> nalioth, places, network servers, uNtouhced
[03:14] <vitriol> knowledge_: how do you want to do it? you can set up an ftp server
[03:14] <knowledge_> and NOTHING comes up
[03:14] <kevin_> it says the file type is FLAC...
[03:14] <kevin_> and the lenght is Zero..
[03:14] <kevin_> what is FLAC?
[03:14] <vitriol> knowledge_: or you can use scp
[03:14] <titaniululz> i just downloaded a theme from gnome-look.org which uses the clearlook engine. i can't find any instructions on where to put the files; anyone know? :)
[03:15] <knowledge_> I'm about 3 seconds away from launching my laptop...I don't have the patience for this
[03:15] <TimmahDaP> i've had audio files that were flac before
[03:15] <vitriol> haha
[03:15] <bob2> FLAC = lossless music format
[03:15] <vitriol> knowledge_: apt-get install proftpd
[03:15] <bob2> rather excellent for storing your ripped cs
[03:15] <nooneelse> someone ?
[03:15] <nalioth> knowledge_: you dont need any of that
[03:15] <vitriol> knowledge_: once you install proftpd you should be able to just use an ftp client on the other computer
[03:15] <kevin_> what does lossless mean?
[03:15] <NoUse> kevin_ you don't loss any quality
[03:16] <knowledge_> nalioth, any of what?
[03:16] <bob2> nooneelse: so, the entire point of apt is that it handles dependencies
[03:16] <bob2> nooneelse: if it's not installing dependencies, it's because you pointed it at broken apt sources
[03:16] <kevin_> ok.. but if i burn it it will play in a cd player?
[03:16] <nooneelse> bob2,  it just says
[03:16] <bob2> nooneelse: so, paste the full error, and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[03:16] <titaniululz> nooneelse, don't use backports. :O
[03:16] <bob2> kevin_: no
[03:16] <kevin_> Well how do i get it to?
[03:16] <vitriol> so, i ask again...does anyone know where i can find svn/cvs or whatever of the ubuntu installer?
[03:16] <titaniululz> kevin_, convert it to .wav
[03:16] <kevin_> How?
[03:16] <vitriol> i want to check out a copy of it
[03:17] <nooneelse> bob2,   Depends: tcltls but it is not going to be installed
[03:17] <nooneelse> titaniululz,  and what mean to be backports ?
[03:17] <titaniululz> kevin_, i'm not sure how on linux but on windows if you use Winamp you can go to Output -> Disk Writer and it will write it as a .wav instead of playing the song as audio. perhaps XMMS (if you use it) has a similar feature? i don't know, i don't have a souncard on my ubuntu machine
[03:18] <titaniululz> nooneelse, follow bob's instructions and paste your sources.list in #flood
[03:18] <nooneelse> titaniululz,  ok
[03:18] <titaniululz> nooneelse, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[03:18] <kevin_> i just changed the file to .wav and it says that its a wav file now.. lol that was easy enough hope it works .
[03:18] <bob2> nooneelse: so, paste the information I asked for to #flood
[03:18] <titaniululz> kevin_, that won't work
[03:18] <bob2> kevin_: no, that will not work at all
[03:18] <titaniululz> kevin_, what are the files right now
[03:18] <bur[n] er_> cat blah.mp3 > blah.wav  <---that work?
[03:18] <titaniululz> flac?
[03:18] <bob2> kevin_: use k3b or mp3burn to convert it to something you can put on an audio cd
[03:19] <titaniululz> bur[n] er_, uhh no
[03:19] <nooneelse> bob2,  its in there
[03:19] <kirtis> Is anyone else in breezy having their nautilus crash on startup?
[03:19] <bob2> bur[n] er_: cat doesn't know how to decode mp3 anymore than mv does
[03:19] <bur[n] er_> well cat blah.mpg > blah.??? something works
[03:19] <bob2> nooneelse: that's really the entire file?
[03:19] <nooneelse> bob2,  yeap
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: my cat plays mp3s
[03:19] <kevin_> the files are .wav now..
[03:19] <bob2> bur[n] er_: no it doesn't
[03:19] <bob2> kevin_: and still in FLAC format
[03:19] <bob2> 11:18:54 @         bob2 | kevin_: use k3b or mp3burn to convert it to something you can put on an audio cd
[03:19] <kevin_> No..
[03:20] <HrdwrBoB> bur[n] er_: you are simply renaming the file
[03:20] <bob2> kevin_: renaming a file does not change the contents. at all.
[03:20] <titaniululz> kevin_, your goal right now is to change the format of the file, not just the extension. ie if it's mp3 or flac right now, it's compressed in a certain way (format). you need to decompress it back to "wav", which is the standard cd audio format. just renaming the files does not decompress it. it's like if you .ZIP a word document and rename the zip file to .doc; you don't get your document back. you have to decompress first.
[03:20] <bur[n] er_> nah... i swear... maybe the source was bunk
[03:20] <bob2> nooneelse: really?  you actually deleted all the comments from the file?
[03:20] <nooneelse> bob2,  ahh sure
[03:20] <nooneelse> just to fit better in paste
[03:20] <kevin_> ok..
[03:20] <kevin_> how do i convert it through k3b?
[03:21] <titaniululz> kevin_, google for 'linux flac decoder' or something similar. you need to convert your files (which are probably around 5mb each right now) to uncompressed wav files, which will be about 40mb give or take.
[03:21] <bob2> nooneelse: so, you neglected to show us the backports apt sources you now have commented out?
[03:21] <titaniululz> kevin_, check the help for it on the website, in the program, or try man k3b. i've never used it personally
[03:21] <synd> anyone part of orkut
[03:21] <nooneelse> bob2, ahh ok i'll paste with the comments
[03:21] <bob2> kevin_: install it and try, it's pretty intuitive (or so I hear)
[03:21] <bob2> mp3burn is ridiculously simple, too
[03:22] <nooneelse> bob2, now with the comments
[03:23] <bob2> nooneelse: and the error from apt, including the command line you're running
[03:23] <nooneelse> bob2, its in there too
[03:24] <titaniululz> holy crap the GNOME theme browser is RIDICULOUSLY easy to install/use new themes with; it's ten times easier than windows. i'm impressed :)
[03:24] <adriyel> titan, Linux can be easier or harder to use than Windows, its completely up to the user
[03:24] <adriyel> Lycoris was drop dead simple
[03:24] <bob2> nooneelse: try using archive.ubuntu.com; that should work
[03:24] <titaniululz> adriyel, yeah i was especially impressed with Synaptic
[03:25] <dalamar> could anybody shed some light on this error trying to compile gxmms? Using the wiki's instructions .. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1587
[03:25] <adriyel> synaptic is great step towards GUI package management, I'm also impressed with how stable its gotten in the past year
[03:25] <pfp> hey, is there any documentation on how booting on raid (R-1) is done in hoary?  i'm familiar with mdadm and the kernel autodetecting swraid arrays, but not with the initrd system hoary uses
[03:25] <nooneelse> bob2, how you mean ?
[03:25] <titaniululz> adriyel, my only experience with *nix is using a solaris server at school over ssh (CS student). i wasn't expecting what ubuntu turned out to be at all :)
[03:25] <bob2> nooneelse: replace "us.archive.ubuntu.com with "archive.ubuntu.com"
[03:25] <adriyel> I've been a Linux user for 3 years, I've seen Linux go from slightly more difficult to EASY cheezy
[03:26] <titaniululz> also the awesome ubuntu community helps a lot
[03:26] <bob2> dalamar: gxxms is in ubuntu already...
[03:26] <nooneelse> bob2, from all ?
[03:26] <bob2> nooneelse: yeah
[03:26] <kermitvanfrosch> Is there a DVD-Image of (k)ubunut that conatains both Gnome and KDE?
[03:26] <adriyel> titaniululuz, I started out with Dos, Windows later on. then my first OS after that was BSD, then I started tinkering with Linux. I've tried nearly every Linux distro and flavor of Unix known to God
[03:26] <bob2> kermitvanfrosch: I'd imagine the ubuntu dvd images contain both
[03:27] <adriyel> I like Linux the best out of the unices, although BSD is arguably better for general purpose servers (Linux is better for clusters)
[03:27] <kevin_> how do i convert it with k3b?
[03:27] <nooneelse> bob2,  ok i'l'll try
[03:27] <kermitvanfrosch> I thought they would ... but why are there ubunut AND kubuntu-DVDs?
[03:27] <TimmahDaP> so when i copy my files from XP using the live CD... the only other storage i have is empty CD's but the drive is in use =\
[03:27] <adriyel> kermit, the difference is the DEFAULT desktop environment, not whats provided
[03:28] <kermitvanfrosch> So they bascially contain the same packages? That would be neat :)
[03:28] <pfp> hmm, my actual problem is, how to tell the (mk)initrd about which raid1 component partition is where..
[03:28] <adriyel> you have to remember, they customize and tightly integrate the GUI's, and put a good deal of effort into doing so. The difference in the iso's is what gets integrated and used by default
[03:28] <bob2> kermitvanfrosch: perhaps the defauls just differ
[03:28] <bob2> I'm not sure
[03:28] <adriyel> bob2, you're correct
[03:28] <adriyel> I already said this :( noone listens to me
[03:28] <bob2> TimmahDaP: what are you trying to do?
[03:28] <TimmahDaP> recover files from XP on my laptop
[03:28] <kermitvanfrosch> I listened, just wanted confirmation :)
[03:28] <kermitvanfrosch> thanks
[03:29] <dalamar> bob2, thanks, thats rather silly the wiki still shows the need to compile etc
[03:29] <kermitvanfrosch> So I'll get KDE, Gnome AND a live-system ...
[03:29] <adriyel> confirmation? pffft. I wouldn't speak unless I knew of what I speaking of
[03:29] <bob2> TimmahDaP: send them over the network, I guess, or buy some usb storage
[03:29] <kermitvanfrosch> nice :)
[03:29] <adriyel> if I don't know, I won't say a d4mn thing
[03:29] <kermitvanfrosch> @adriyel
[03:29] <nooneelse> bob2, same thing
[03:29] <kermitvanfrosch> How do I know ... I just know you since 5 minutes ;-)
[03:29] <kevin_> ok.. i got mp3burn how do i use it?
[03:29] <adriyel> meh.
[03:30] <bob2> kevin_: you need to have a bit more of a self-starter attitude, dude
[03:30] <kevin_> im sorry..
[03:30] <kevin_> this is frustrating
[03:30] <bob2> kevin_: for instance, "mp3burn --help"
[03:30] <TimmahDaP> yeah you're right
[03:30] <bob2> nooneelse: very odd
[03:30] <adriyel> kevin_, www.google.com works wonders man, asking for help is ok, but you really gotta spend at least 15-30 min poking around google and seeing if theres quickfix/answer
[03:31] <Buuyo^> Hi. Is it possible to /upgrade/ to ubuntu x64 (for em64t or the amd64) from the x86 one without reinstalling?
[03:31] <adriyel> the ubuntu community is extremely helpful, and avoids the typical, RTFM response, but if you push it, you will get slapped with it
[03:31] <bob2> Buuyo^: that's not an upgrade, and no
[03:31] <dalamar> bob2, would you know how to enable it ater installation? (gxmms)
[03:31] <adriyel> Buuyo^, in theory yes, but its not supported
[03:31] <bob2> that's a "reinstall the whole system with a different port of the OS"
[03:31] <adriyel> you'd have to replace/recompile everything yourself, kernel and libraries included
[03:31] <Buuyo^> yuck :)
[03:31] <adriyel> I suggest you do as bob2 suggested, and reinstall
[03:32] <Buuyo^> alright
[03:32] <adriyel> that is of course, unless you're a gentoo user like me and don't care
[03:32] <bob2> you can play chroot games if you like, or be very very overeager with dpkg --force-arch
[03:32] <bob2> dalamar: enable it?
[03:32] <frank_b> hi all. can anyone tell which is the file for making permanent "alias" in ubuntu?
[03:32] <dalamar> bob2, how?
[03:32] <Buuyo^> Thanks :)
[03:32] <adriyel> frank_b, check www.google.com for a script file or something, my memory can't recall it
[03:32] <adriyel> frank_b, I know for 99% that theres a text file for it though
[03:33] <bob2> dalamar: I don't know what you mean by "enable"
[03:33] <bob2> dalamar: do you mean "add it to the menu"?
[03:33] <bob2> frank_b: a shell alias? /etc/bash.bashrc might be a good choice
[03:33] <frank_b> adriyel: I've searched in google... but found referrences to two different files that I can't locate
[03:33] <drew> I tried to install kubuntu-desktop, but it now says that I have a broken packages
[03:33] <dalamar> bob2, i installed it and theres no command named 'gxmms', looked in xmms plugins not there either
[03:33] <drew> how do I fix this?
[03:34] <bob2> drew: you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list and the full output of apt to #flood
[03:34] <rob_p> frank_b:  You can put it in /home/username/.bash_aliases
[03:34] <frank_b> bob2: I'll try that one. that one I didn't saw the reference to
[03:34] <adriyel> frank_b, grep/find the files, you've probably already had the answer given to you, aka, grep filename
[03:34] <bob2> dalamar: it's an applet, not a program...
[03:34] <bob2> dalamar: you right click on the panel and choose add applet
[03:34] <medamaybe> does anyone know how I can get my trash_can icon back? :)
[03:34] <adriyel> if you can't find anything, frank_b , I'll look with google myself, momentarily
[03:34] <smoet_> well I found what I was looking for and it's called BUM, Boot Up Manager. I still think it's strange there isn't standard a tool like that in ubuntu.
[03:34] <bob2> probably after havign to restart the panel
[03:34] <bob2> medamaybe: n the desktop? with some conf fiddling.
[03:34] <smoet_> I don't think desktop users need a mail server running :p
[03:34] <dalamar> bob2, thank you, thats what I needed ;)
[03:34] <weryk> frank_b: If you use ~/.bash_aliases, you might have to uncomment where that's read from in ~/.bashrc
[03:34] <bob2> smoet_: in practice it's not that useful; if you don't want something to run, just don't install it.
[03:35] <medamaybe> well, it was on the bottom bar, next to the desktops
[03:35] <medamaybe> but I accidently removed it
[03:35] <frank_b> adriyel: I think I'll try rob_p's suggestion then...
[03:35] <Gatton> when you get his trash icon back tell me how to get it on the desktop and off the panel heh
[03:35] <kermitvanfrosch> do ubunut and kubuntu use the same apt-repositories?
[03:35] <frank_b> better option..
[03:35] <bob2> kermitvanfrosch: yes
[03:35] <rob_p> frank_b:  Oh, I almost forgot... you might need to uncomment a couple of lines in your .bashrc as well... just open it up and it should be very evident...
[03:35] <Gatton> kermitvanfrosch, yes. kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde as the default
[03:35] <frank_b> ok...
[03:35] <kermitvanfrosch> That's what I thought, great :)
[03:36] <kermitvanfrosch> I think I'll give the kubuntu-dvd a shot ...
[03:36] <medamaybe> bob2, would you know where I can find these config thingies ?
[03:36] <Gatton> dvd?
[03:37] <bob2> drew: perhaps a backports problem; try removing them, apt-get update and try aain
[03:37] <kermitvanfrosch> mainly since I#m used to KDE and don't really like nautilus
[03:37] <kermitvanfrosch> Yes, DVD
[03:37] <drew> bob2 okay
[03:37] <smoet_> bob2: that's true. but were talking about ubuntu here... these services i wanted to turn off are being installed by default.
[03:37] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, gnome grows on you, I promise
[03:37] <bob2> smoet_: ah, fair enough
[03:37] <kermitvanfrosch> seems to contain kubuntu + all packages from ubuntu plus a live-kubuntu :)
[03:37] <Gatton> heck i didn't even know they were on dvd
[03:37] <bob2> smoet_: postfix will go away eventually
[03:37] <bob2> maybe in breezy
[03:38] <Gatton> kermitvanfrosch, cool. good to know. that's very handy!
[03:38] <dalamar> gnome rocks ;)
[03:38] <kermitvanfrosch> @adriyel, yes I liked what I saw in the latest 2.11 gnome under suse ...
[03:38] <kairu0> hi fellow ubuntu users
[03:38] <kermitvanfrosch> ... until I broke it completely :S
[03:39] <smoet_> bob2: Aha, that was indeed one of the two that I don't needed.
[03:39] <Gatton> gnome 2.10 is the nicest i've used. but last night kde called to me again
[03:39] <kermitvanfrosch> Still, I hate the one-folder-one-window behaviour ...
[03:39] <Gatton> it's siren song convinced me to apt-get isntall kubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <Gatton> it's a very confusing time for me right now
[03:39] <nooneelse> bob2, could u send to me your sources.list ?
[03:39] <dalamar> kermitvanfrosch, that is configurable
[03:39] <kermitvanfrosch> is it now?
[03:39] <dalamar> yes
[03:40] <titaniululz> what version of gtk and clearlooks does ubuntu hoary ship with? im not sure how to check
[03:40] <dalamar> you can do all viewing in one window
[03:40] <smoet_> But without BUM I wouldn't even know postfix was running on 25.
[03:40] <kermitvanfrosch> does it also get a sidepanel when I do the one-window-thing?
[03:40] <cyphase> dalamar, yea, i know :)
[03:40] <kermitvanfrosch> still like to see my foldertree
[03:40] <HrdwrBoB> smoet_: ... on the localhost
[03:40] <smoet_> now I can deinstall it if I wasn't to lazy :p
[03:40] <nooneelse> drew, same error mine
[03:41] <drew> bob2, would it matter if I didn't get my GNOME updates yet?
[03:41] <cyphase> i just wanna see how many i can get before there's no more space
[03:41] <drew> bob2, cause I am just doing my software updates now
[03:41] <bob2> nooneelse: that wont help
[03:41] <bob2> drew: don't think so
[03:41] <bob2> hold on, I'm looking into it
[03:41] <dalamar> kermitvanfrosch, yes that is possible
[03:42] <bob2> drew: nooneelse i386?
[03:42] <bob2> smoet_: it's only listening on loopback, tho
[03:42] <bob2> so all it does is consume a bit of swap
[03:42] <drew> bob2, that's what the installation said, it told me I was installing i386 kernel
[03:42] <nooneelse> bob2, how do I see it ?
[03:42] <adriyel> <--- x86_64 kernel + libs +apps :P bishes.
[03:42] <nooneelse> ops
[03:42] <nooneelse> uanem
[03:42] <bob2> nooneelse: uname -a
[03:42] <smoet_> Hmm yeah, i missed that part
[03:42] <kermitvanfrosch> Mhhh, I guess ti should be easy to switch between KDE and Gnome on (k)ubuntu ...
[03:42] <nooneelse> bob2,  Linux nooneelse 2.6.10-5-386
[03:42] <bob2> ok
[03:43] <Gatton> kermitvanfrosch, yep it is. just apt-get install whichever one you don't have. then it will show up in your gdm (or kdm)
[03:43] <Gatton> at least it did for me
[03:44] <kermitvanfrosch> that's why I'm getting the dvd with both :)
[03:44] <bob2> so
[03:44] <bob2> I manually checked, and the archive is ok
[03:44] <Gatton> kermitvanfrosch, good idea :)
[03:44] <dalamar> bad part is for installation of both with same user the menu of the other still shows up and vice versa .. though you can change that with smeg or something similar
[03:44] <mic_> how do i upgrade my gnupg 1.2.4 to gnupg 1.4.2 in ubuntu 5.04?
[03:44] <robotgeek> does anyone know a reliable way to start network manager applet when i login into gnome. for nm-applet to run, it needs to be run as root
[03:44] <bob2> mic_: why do you want to do that?
[03:45] <mic_> because 1.4.2 is the latest and i don't know if my keys can still work with 1.2.4
[03:45] <medamaybe> so any suggestions on how to get my trash can back? I tried to search but I can't find it :)
[03:45] <adriyel> omg, you lost your trash can? thats AWESOME
[03:45] <bob2> mic_: try it and see
[03:45] <dalamar> medamaybe, on desktop or taskbar?
[03:45] <bob2> it's unlikely it won't
[03:45] <adriyel> no sarcasm medamaybe , that really is awesome
[03:45] <bob2> medamaybe: it's a gconf setting
[03:46] <adriyel> dalamar, I think he removed/deleted it
[03:46] <bob2> have you looked yet?
[03:46] <dalamar> ouch
[03:46] <kermitvanfrosch> How paionful is switching from suse to (k)ubuntu going to be?
[03:46] <adriyel> he's gonna hafta add it manually
[03:46] <kermitvanfrosch> deleted the trashcan?
[03:46] <adriyel> meh, so to speak @ kermitvanfrosch
[03:46] <kermitvanfrosch> maby its still in the trashcan then?
[03:46] <mic_> bob2: i'm using SHA512 will it still work with 1.2.4
[03:46] <Gatton> kermitvanfrosch, i went from Suse 9.2 to ubuntu and haven't missed anything
[03:46] <dalamar> your spose to delete whats IN the trashcan, not the trashcan itself ;)
[03:46] <adriyel> SuSE is, dodgy, in some of its apps.
[03:46] <robotgeek> heck, i went from OS X to ubuntu, and prefer it!
[03:46] <bob2> mic_: no idea; read the changelog or try it
[03:46] <drew> bob2, is there a command I can use to find broken packages on my system?
[03:47] <bob2> mic_: if you really think you need a newer one, download the source and compile it to /usr/local/
[03:47] <adriyel> I'm installing Ubuntu on my g/f's Mac soon
[03:47] <kermitvanfrosch> I like the way SuSE 10 seems to be going ...
[03:47] <bob2> drew: try installing anything with apt
[03:47] <kermitvanfrosch> ... and I like a the little details in SuSE#
[03:47] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, I have the x86_64 beta1 of SuSE 10 collecting dust
[03:47] <drew> bob2, like, just pick something randomly?
[03:47] <kermitvanfrosch> automount of all my windows partitions
[03:47] <Gatton> kermitvanfrosch, me too. i'll be checking out the release of 10 on a spare drive
[03:47] <mic_> bob2: i found 1.4.2 gnupg in breezy. can i download those and just compile it to work?
[03:47] <bob2> drew: or just do what you were doing before
[03:47] <drew> bob2, okay
[03:47] <bob2> drew: amarok is certainly in ubuntu, tho
[03:47] <kermitvanfrosch> qute-like-widgets for all gtk+ apps and vice-versa
[03:47] <bob2> mic_: the source package, probably
[03:48] <mic_> bob2: oki thanks, i'll try it
[03:48] <drew> bob2, it says that I need amarok, right?
[03:48] <Gatton> kermitvanfrosch, if you use kde make sure you install gtk-qt to make your gtk apps use look better under kde
[03:48] <bob2> drew: yes, but I don't know why it can't install it; perhaps reverting to a default sources.list with 'sudo apt-setup' would fix it for no reason
[03:48] <carambol> at bootup i getthis err messg: Temporiry name resolution ..[failed] 
[03:48] <kermitvanfrosch> where do I find information about ubuntu repositories?
[03:48] <n17r0> Hi anyone know a good file manager like total commander on windows?
[03:48] <Gatton> !repositories
[03:48] <ubotu> well, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[03:49] <drew> bob2, what do you mean exactly?  Can you give me specific instruction?
[03:49] <bob2> carambol: caused by not being connected to the network when you boot
[03:49] <kermitvanfrosch> I found out about universe and multivers ... just not the diofference yet :)
[03:49] <bob2> drew: run "sudo apt-setup".  try to install kubuntu. enjoy.
[03:49] <kermitvanfrosch> thanks ubotu :)
[03:49] <carambol> ut i am not at a network, cable connection
[03:49] <bob2> kermitvanfrosch: universe = unsupported free software, multiverse = unsupported non-free software
[03:49] <bob2> carambol: anyway, ignore it
[03:49] <drew> bob2, okay
[03:50] <Gatton> bob2, thanks. i was fuzzy on that too
[03:50] <carambol> buob2: but i have a small login screen
[03:50] <dalamar> lol, heres a question, had kde installed, changed the color scheme, removed it, now k3b in gnome still has the same scheme, can I change it to stock without reinstalling kde? ;)
[03:50] <Gatton> anyone had the cojones to try capture?
[03:50] <drew> bob2, will it matter that my software updates are going?
[03:50] <bob2> get rid of your kde settings
[03:50] <bob2> drew: I don't know what you mean by that
[03:50] <carambol> bob2 a small white screen ,telling me to configure it
[03:51] <bob2> carambol: that's too vague for me to guess what you mean
[03:51] <bob2> someone needs to write a "how to ask useful ubuntu questions" guide that's not as patronisign as esr's thing
[03:51] <drew> bob2, nevermind, my comp answered that question for me
[03:51] <carambol> bob2 i cant use the login-screen options
[03:52] <lui> hello!
[03:52] <carambol> onlybob2:
[03:52] <n17r0> Hi anyone know a good file manager like "total commander" on windows?
[03:52] <TimmahDaP> bob2:  i'd have to hack my own wireless network to transfer the files..........
[03:52] <kermitvanfrosch> Does anyone know how painful upgrading to breeze badger is going to be?
[03:52] <bob2> carambol: ok...
[03:52] <kermitvanfrosch> Is it better to already go for the badger on a clean install?
[03:52] <bob2> kermitvanfrosch: I wouldn't do it now unless you want to report bugs
[03:52] <bob2> no
[03:53] <bob2> TimmahDaP: ok
[03:53] <carambol> the conf file contains an invalid command line for the login dialog, so running hte default command. Plz fix your configuration.
[03:53] <kermitvanfrosch> I don't mean upgrading now :)
[03:53] <dalamar> distro upgrading is supposed to be fairly easy with ubuntu i would just wait until the official breezy release
[03:54] <smoet> so if you are running a service that listens to localhost or *:* you can't see that with a scan from outside?
[03:54] <kermitvanfrosch> I mean: since I want to set up my new system now ... maybe its nice to just go for the badger already instead of going through a noit-so-sooth upgrade process once its final
[03:54] <bob2> kermitvanfrosch: when breezy comes out, read the upgrade notes and upgrade, it will be no different to reinstalling
[03:54] <bob2> except for not wasting time
[03:54] <kermitvanfrosch> ok
[03:54] <carambol> i cant use the polished screens (login)...only  a improvised little white sreen
[03:54] <bob2> this is based on deabin, upgrades should be painless
[03:54] <carambol> i am in breezy,bob2
[03:55] <juanej> damn, i just restarted xfce (ctrl + alt + backspace) and now evrything is just like when i installed it, and the font is too small, i barely can see
[03:55] <bob2> there yo ugo then
[03:55] <bob2> welcome to unstable!
[03:55] <smoet> nvm... if it doesn't listen to the internet it can't be seen from the internet lol
[03:55] <carambol> this problem exist after dist-upgrade
[03:55] <bob2> carambol: then file a bug
[03:56] <carambol> ok
[03:56] <kevin_> still no luck i cant figure it out ..
[03:56] <kevin_> :(
[03:56] <Gatton> can someone remind me the command to use after updating your fstab so it re-loads it on the fly?
[03:56] <iotc247> I have a question. Does anyone know how to get firefox-trunk to replace the firefox package that is in breezy...
[03:56] <bob2> kevin_: eh?
[03:56] <kermitvanfrosch> is there a repository for hoary with current packages? Like KDE 3.4.2 or amaroK 1.4 ?
[03:56] <kevin_> i still cant figure out how to convert the flac to wav.
[03:57] <bob2> mp3burn -o dev=/dev/hdc path/to/flac/files/
[03:57] <bob2> kermitvanfrosch: if you want a stable distro, use a stable distro
[03:57] <kermitvanfrosch> sorry, amarok 1.3 :)
[03:58] <kermitvanfrosch> well, it's stable and final software ...
[03:58] <bob2> no
[03:59] <TimmahDaP> thanx for the help
[03:59] <n17r0> Hi anyone know a good file manager like "total commander" on windows?
[03:59] <kermitvanfrosch> amaroK 1.3 is final and stable ... just interested how long it takes to be integrated into (k)ubuntu
[03:59] <kevin_> is there a partition magic type program on linux?
[04:00] <avanspronsen> kermitvanfrosch: have you tried backports?
[04:00] <avanspronsen> !backports
[04:00] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[04:00] <kermitvanfrosch> beatiful :)
[04:00] <adriyel> !help
[04:01] <adriyel> !lobotomy
[04:01] <ubotu> adriyel: I don't know
[04:01] <drew> bob2, it asked me for a ubuntu disk, I put in the install CD, but it says it's a non ubuntu disk
[04:01] <adriyel> ubotu is a sweet bot.
[04:01] <ubotu> adriyel: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:01] <steveO_Laptop> hello all
[04:01] <dabar> hi.
[04:01] <snareguy> couple new-guy questions for you... trying to install some ati adapters... just need to know how to execute either a .run file or a .deb file
[04:01] <beabeanca> hai all
[04:01] <adriyel> ubotu, I love you
[04:01] <ubotu> adriyel: I give up, what is it?
[04:02] <dabar> snareguy: .debs are to be installed.
[04:02] <adriyel> its frickin cool ubotu
[04:02] <paulproteus> lol, adriyel
[04:02] <adriyel> paulproteus, I love that bot.
[04:02] <bob2> drew: get rid of it from /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <beabeanca> can somebody help me here
[04:02] <dalamar> ubotu is the coolest!
[04:02] <ubotu> dalamar: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:02] <bob2> snareguy: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:02] <drew> bob2, get rid of what?
[04:02] <adriyel> ubotu is the sh1t
[04:02] <ubotu> adriyel: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:02] <dalamar> only in holland
[04:02] <beabeanca> im newbie
[04:02] <beabeanca> in ubuntu
[04:02] <adriyel> thank you ubotu, I appreciate being insulted by you
[04:02] <steveO_Laptop> ? how do I re-configure my hardware from command line?
[04:02] <snareguy> dabar: thanks, i am recieving some errors when i try and extract and execute the archive
[04:02] <Tortel> same
[04:02] <dabar> snareguy: sudo dpkg -i file.deb. Do not install files that you dont know what they are, nor if they are debvian, or other distro .debs, only  ubuntu debs, ior ask here b4 you isntall.
[04:03] <kevin_> how do you resize the partition with ubuntu ?
[04:03] <kevin_> Without having to re-install everyting?
[04:03] <dalamar> very carefully
[04:03] <snareguy> ok.. trying right now
[04:03] <adriyel> or you could be 1337 and install it by source :D :D :D
[04:03] <adriyel> ./configure make make install
[04:03] <dabar> snareguy: other executable files, like .run can be run in several ways. but you first need to make them executable, chmod +x file.run,  and man chmod to learn more.
[04:03] <beabeanca> how to run samba in ubuntu
[04:04] <avanspronsen> !samba
[04:04] <ubotu> samba is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[04:04] <adriyel> !w00t
[04:04] <ubotu> Not a clue, adriyel
[04:04] <adriyel> darn.
[04:04] <dabar> snareguy: then you can either in a terminal sh file.run or ./file.run if you are in its dir, or you can even double click it through nautilus.
[04:04] <adriyel> !adriyel
[04:04] <dalamar> you crazy dual boot kids
[04:04] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, adriyel
[04:04] <adriyel> !anger
[04:04] <ubotu> adriyel: I don't know
[04:04] <dalamar> commit dammit!
[04:04] <drew> bob2, get rid of what?
[04:04] <dabar> !msg the bot
[04:04] <adriyel> !bin
[04:04] <ubotu> [msg the bot]  please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please.
[04:04] <ubotu> adriyel: Are you on ritalin?
[04:04] <avanspronsen> !spam
[04:04] <ubotu> avanspronsen: Are you smoking crack?
[04:04] <nate_> Does anybody know of a faster way to rip music from a cd to your hard drive then through Music player?
[04:05] <adriyel> !clutter
[04:05] <ubotu> Not a clue, adriyel
[04:05] <adriyel> lol...
[04:05] <dalamar> sound juicer
[04:05] <snareguy> thank you DABAR
[04:05] <dabar> welcome.
[04:05] <avanspronsen> adriyel: easy with the bot man
[04:05] <drew> bob2, get rid of what?
[04:05] <adriyel> I should code an IRC bot, kkz avanspronsen ...bots just amuse me
[04:05] <nate_> Sound Jucier is too slow also =\
[04:05] <Orborde> I'm trying to get the 32-bit version of Firefox installed on my Ubuntu 64-bit system, and I can only find it as an RPM. Should I use Synaptic to remove my current Firefox version and then install the new Firefox by converting the rpm to a deb and then installing it? Or is this utterly loony?
[04:05] <nate_> thats what I meant, actually
[04:06] <adriyel> Orborde, just update Firefox with synaptic and be done with it
[04:06] <dalamar> nate_, this is all dependent on your drive your ripping from too obviously
[04:06] <steveO_Laptop> ? how do I re-configure my hardware from command line?
[04:06] <adiabatic> I put the 5.04 Live CD in my old gateway and everything seems to be fine, but it's not running my 1024x768 flat panel at its native resolution on my ATI 3D Rage LT Pro. How can I find out if the Dead CD (sorry) can tweak X's setup to use the proper resolution?
[04:06] <Orborde> adriyel: Um....what do you mean? Synaptic gives me 64-bit Firefox...I think....
[04:06] <nate_> Yeah, but its a good drive, both the harddrive and the dvd burner =\
[04:06] <adriyel> additionally, Orborde , you might want to delete or move the file libflash-mozplugin.so out of your firefox directory
[04:06] <dabar> steveO_Laptop: like what?
[04:07] <dalamar> nate_, us dma on for the drive?
[04:07] <adriyel> I don't know if Synaptic gives you a 64 bit version of Firefox, but frankly man, does it bloody matter?
[04:07] <adriyel> its a web browser Orborde , not a physics simulator
[04:07] <beabeanca> ? what command to run any program in ubuntu root terminal :??
[04:07] <n17r0> Hi anyone know a good file manager like "total commander" on windows?
[04:07] <nate_> dma? dalamar?
[04:07] <dabar> beabeanca: that is too non-specific to be answered,
[04:07] <HrdwrBoB> nautilus
[04:07] <adriyel> besides, 64bit apps eat more memory space, which is more important with a web browser than OMG WEB PAGE LOADED IN 0.01ms INSTEAD OF 0.015ms
[04:07] <dalamar> replicant? where's a bladerunner when you need them? ;)
[04:07] <dalamar> !dma
[04:07] <Orborde> adriyel: I want Flash to work. It doesn't get along with 64-bit Firefox AFAIK, but I dunno.
[04:07] <n17r0> no other one, not nautilus
[04:08] <adriyel> what makes you think theres a 64bit flash plugin? *laughs*
[04:08] <steveO_Laptop> dabar,  I install ubuntu on my comapaq then put that harddrive back into a older computer so we need to reconfigure all hardware
[04:08] <adriyel> ask macromedia if they've compiled a 64bit plugin, or if they'll give you the source to do it...*chuckle*
[04:08] <dalamar> nate_, makes the drives go faster, might not be enabled, its in the wiki
[04:08] <nate_> well I'll just have to deal with whatI got I guess, but it takes about an hour a cd =\
[04:08] <beabeanca> ok nvm
[04:08] <dabar> I dont have a clue what you mean, maybe I am just not knowledgeable, or you should learn about ask... steveO_Laptop. /msg ubotu ask.
[04:08] <dalamar> an hour? WOW
[04:08] <Orborde> adriyel: I know there isn't. But I gather that running 32bit Firefox might work.
[04:09] <adriyel> in theory.
[04:09] <adriyel> I've had experience with the bug you're talking about
[04:09] <dalamar> my drive is crap and it takes like 20 minutes to half an hour
[04:09] <adriyel> I did a gdb backtrace
[04:09] <adriyel> its possible it might still crash/not work with a 32bit Firefox
[04:09] <adriyel> so, it might be all in vain
[04:09] <nate_> dalamar, could you link it?
[04:09] <adriyel> additionally, not using synaptic with a distro as heavily modified as Ubuntu, is, unwise, to say the least
[04:09] <beabeanca> ? i need build homepage in ubuntu...what software can i use for editing html file..like dreamviewer..ex.
[04:10] <D1> nvu
[04:10] <dabar> !nvu
[04:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[04:10] <medamaybe> anyone know how I can get my trashcan on my taskbar back? :)
[04:10] <adriyel> if you're sudo'ing or using root, its a good way to kill your Linux install
[04:10] <cafuego> beabeanca: Try nvu. it's still a bit shit, though.
[04:10] <dalamar> nate_, toss a '!dma' in channel and ubotu will
[04:10] <Orborde> adriyel: Okay.
[04:10] <adriyel> WYSIWYG
[04:10] <drew> I searched amarok on my Synaptic and marked it for installation, but it keeps saying that all the packages related to it including it will not be installed, what's wrong?
[04:10] <beabeanca> ?nvu
[04:10] <beabeanca> how to run it
[04:10] <nate_> !dma
[04:10] <iiiears> mozilla web editor
[04:11] <dalamar> drew, i get same prob, think that site may have pooped
[04:11] <cafuego> beabeanca: See what ubotu said about 12 lines ago?
[04:11] <steveO_Laptop> dabar, I have a old laptop with no cdrom so I took the harddrive out and put it into my compacq and installed ubuntu on it then placed that harddrive and booted it up on the old laptop now just need to reconfig the hard ware] 
[04:11] <adriyel> Orborde, if you're that thirsty for Flash, try a different browser to Firefox until the plugin gets fixed, I believe it will get fixed with 5.10/breezy, for now, see if any other browsers support a 64bit flash plugin (opera?)
[04:11] <drew> dalamar, so what now then?
[04:11] <adriyel> !opera
[04:11] <adriyel> [opera]  a very powerful and speedy web browser with a superfluity of features while placing stress upon visual aesthetics. Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get more information at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[04:11] <dalamar> drew, its not installed ;) i dont know
[04:11] <durt> opera is god
[04:11] <adriyel> opera is propietary.
[04:11] <dalamar> meh
[04:11] <adriyel> its demi-god.
[04:11] <dalamar> it has its uses
[04:12] <adriyel> Firefox is uber-hero
[04:12] <iiiears> a little pay for good programming isn't always a bad thing.
[04:12] <beabeanca> ?? :|
[04:12] <dabar> steveO_Laptop: never knew that can be done. I really dont know.
[04:12] <durt> the little ad bar is not too annoying
[04:12] <vladuz976> how do i add a dir to my path?
[04:12] <dalamar> meh the banners arent a big deal at all
[04:12] <iiiears> firefox was helped by being associated with aol.
[04:12] <dabar> beabeanca: there are two links above if you scroll up a little with help for you...
[04:13] <drew> is debian anywhere near as easy to install as ubuntu?
[04:13] <dabar> drew: sure, maybe.
[04:13] <beabeanca> ok im try
[04:13] <steveO_Laptop> dabar, lol yes  have done it many times just not with ubuntu
[04:13] <drew> dabar, like, is it a self guided installation like ubuntu, or is it complicated like gentoo?
[04:13] <cafuego> What's the tool for converting JPEG sequences to MPEG?
[04:13] <steveO_Laptop> power of linux rocks
[04:13] <dalamar> firefox wa assoiated with aol? news to me .. aol is like dinosaur shit
[04:13] <Gatton> aol bought netscape
[04:13] <dabar> drew: have you asked at #debian?
[04:14] <Gatton> netscape begat mozilla which begat firefox
[04:14] <Gatton> thus endeth the history lesson
[04:14] <kermitvanfrosch> Wait, did I get that right?
[04:14] <iiiears> lol
[04:14] <juanej> dsa
[04:14] <kermitvanfrosch> Firefox is 64bit default on the x86-64 version of hoary?
[04:14] <dalamar> so firefox is slow because netscape always was, i see
[04:14] <dabar> Gatton: thanks, I actually learned something from your history lesson...
[04:14] <cafuego> kermitvanfrosch: Yes, of course.
[04:14] <dabar> the present part...
[04:14] <kermitvanfrosch> :-S
[04:15] <cafuego> (it's also broken on breezy x86_64 atm)
[04:15] <kevman> Hey, I'm still trying to apt-get Hoary. Now I got this error: * (process:9228): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[04:15] <Gatton> <Dr Zoidberg> Yay I'm helping!
[04:15] <kermitvanfrosch> I don't like that ... hardly any plugin works in 64bit firefox ...
[04:15] <dalamar> woob woob woob woob!
[04:15] <paulproteus> cafuego: mjpegtools, iirc
[04:15] <kermitvanfrosch> that's why suse has 32bit default even in the 64bit version
[04:15] <paulproteus> That's the package name.
[04:15] <cafuego> kermitvanfrosch: Nobody is forcing you to run a 64bit install.
[04:15] <dalamar> futurama owns us all
[04:15] <jono> how can I find out which files processes are working on?
[04:15] <paulproteus> cafuego: I think I recognize your nick from #debian-kde back in the day.
[04:15] <paulproteus> jono: lsof or fopen
[04:16] <paulproteus> jono: or ls /proc/$PID/fd/
[04:16] <kermitvanfrosch> I do want a 64bit install ... I have to university-tools that highly benefit from this ...
[04:16] <adriyel> sigh.
[04:16] <kermitvanfrosch> two
[04:16] <cafuego> paulproteus: #debian maybe,
[04:16] <paulproteus> cafuego: Ah, perhaps it's that.
[04:16] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, what tools?
[04:16] <kermitvanfrosch> I just don't want a 64bit firefox :s
[04:16] <adriyel> meesa curious.
[04:16] <jono> paulproteus, is there a way to find out which files the process using the most cpu is using?
[04:16] <nalioth> cafuego: have i seen you on the post office wall?
[04:16] <cafuego> kermitvanfrosch: then install a 32bit one in a chroot.
[04:16] <paulproteus> jono: top + lsof , I guess.
[04:16] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, do a source install, set the CFLAGS manually. do it the gentoo way!
[04:16] <durt> im on breezy and i cant get nvidia-glx to install: synaptic says "to be removed libglu1-mesa", then it says it depends on libglu1-mesa. whats going on here?
[04:17] <cafuego> Which retard added FreeFormats to the RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[04:17] <durt> !nvidia-glx
[04:17] <ubotu> durt: Wish i knew
[04:17] <steveO_Laptop> ok lets try this How do I reconfig X from command line?
[04:17] <adriyel> cafuego, the same retard that didn't add restricted formats into the install CD, why?
[04:17] <kermitvanfrosch> Just two small math-applications ... written by a professor of mine ...
[04:17] <adriyel> interesting, have you compiled/optimized them yet?
[04:17] <nate_> uh...someone using Mozilla, go to greenday.com
[04:17] <iiiears> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:18] <cafuego> adriyel: It suggests Ogg Vorbis/Theora (not used by anone, really) is all you need.
[04:18] <nate_> tell me if they can see the main page news =\
[04:18] <adriyel> may I have those apps, and check out the source, or are they restricted?
[04:18] <adriyel> GPL?
[04:18] <TraceGreen>  Hello, can anyone help me with my bootsplash? i can just see blank screen when boot, and after X start, i check /proc/bootsplash,"Splash screen v3.1.6-2004/03/31 (0xf0, 640x480): off")
[04:18] <iiiears> !resolution
[04:18] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:18] <adriyel> cafuego, LOL, ogg is all you need....yeah...right...if you're a game developer and all you do is produce games maybe...
[04:18] <kermitvanfrosch> he did ... according to what I know they are suppose to run MUCh slwoer on 32bit ...
[04:18] <capisloque> hey, how do i change to 800x600 withoyt the elements of the screen becomind extremely big ?
[04:18] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, are they GPL'ed?
[04:18] <kermitvanfrosch> nope
[04:19] <adriyel> that doesn't mean I can tinker with the executables or the source does it?
[04:19] <kermitvanfrosch> well, not yet at least ...
[04:19] <adriyel> I've been delving into assembly, and tinkering with optimization s
[04:19] <adriyel> optimizations
[04:19] <kermitvanfrosch> no tinkering yet, don't have the sourcecode
[04:19] <kermitvanfrosch> dont know if I ever will
[04:19] <adriyel> I'm basically aiming to cheat on the pov-ray benchmark.
[04:19] <adriyel> OOH, I need to install that!
[04:19] <adriyel> *just remembered*
[04:19] <HrdwrBoB> kermitvanfrosch: what charset are you using?
[04:20] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, could you possibly finagle him into GPL'ing it?
[04:20] <kermitvanfrosch> good question
[04:20] <kermitvanfrosch> this is mirc under XP
[04:21] <kermitvanfrosch> some students already tried ot explain the benefits of that ...
[04:21] <kermitvanfrosch> ... I don't think he really cares that much about it
[04:21] <adriyel> *sigh*
[04:21] <adriyel> what do these apps do?
[04:21] <paulproteus> kermitvanfrosch: You should get him to BSD-license it.
[04:21] <adriyel> (I'll consider it a coding challenge) BSD license might be useful
[04:22] <adriyel> because then I can steal the code, and sell the apps for money
[04:22] <paulproteus> Fearmonger him into thinking that without a license, people will hold him responsible for warranty stuff.
[04:22] <kermitvanfrosch> he wrote his own "license" ... in five sentences ...
[04:22] <adriyel> paulproteus, YES, BRING ON THE ACADEMIC FUD!
[04:22] <paulproteus> adriyel: Heh, thanks. ;)
[04:22] <adriyel>  :)
[04:22] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, can you briefly tell me what these two apps simulate/calculate?
[04:23] <adriyel> again, I'd like to see if I could code something that does it
[04:23] <adriyel> and then opti-mah-size the sh1z out of it, gentoo style (lolz)
[04:23] <kermitvanfrosch> wait a second, I can give you his website ... its German though
[04:23] <adriyel> www.blah.de eh?
[04:23] <adriyel> (bring it on, google.com's translator will pwn your weak site :P )
[04:24] <paulproteus> s/weak site/weak language/
[04:24] <beabeanca> ok gys have a good day bye!!
[04:24] <paulproteus> beabeanca: Bye!
[04:24] <kermitvanfrosch> Argh, I hate that ... half of the university-websites are offline ...
[04:24] <kermitvanfrosch> they are re-doing the website ... since about 4 weeks now ...
[04:25] <iiiears> too many p2p client servers
[04:25] <kermitvanfrosch> ... since its semester-"vacation" now
[04:25] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch,
[04:25] <adriyel> crap.
[04:25] <adriyel> ok
[04:25] <adriyel> seriously, can you just tell me, or is it that bloody involved?
[04:25] <P8ntKid> !wine
[04:25] <kermitvanfrosch> all they did so far is take about half of it offline and make all the "new" things unaccessible :S
[04:25] <adriyel> just giving me a brief description will tell me if its out of my league
[04:25] <kermitvanfrosch> I get a password-request on: http://fhwww.tzm-giessen.de/
[04:26] <adriyel> I do too
[04:26] <adriyel> how gay.
[04:26] <adriyel> (Brief descrip pretty plz?)
[04:26] <kermitvanfrosch> one second :)
[04:27] <adriyel> kkz, thx
[04:27] <adriyel> oh...mah...gosh
[04:28] <adriyel> I unzipped a file, with a 64bit proggie
[04:28] <adriyel> it was instantaneous
[04:28] <adriyel> YES!!! :) :) :)
[04:28] <kermitvanfrosch> both are basically about prime-number-crunching ... trying to find some short definitions ...
[04:28] <Kyral> !prelink
[04:28] <ubotu> Kyral: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:28] <kermitvanfrosch> and translating them :)
[04:28] <adriyel> um, trying to find prime numbers up to a certain limit?
[04:28] <adriyel> based upon an algorithm developed by someone?
[04:28] <kermitvanfrosch> nopw, there are plenty of that :)
[04:28] <supernix>  anyone know about any conflict with hotplug in the latest kernel image ?
[04:29] <adriyel> eh
[04:29] <kermitvanfrosch> dammit, I have problembs translating things like primzahlzerlegung ....
[04:29] <adriyel> what kind of prime number crunching, are we talking encryption related?
[04:29] <kermitvanfrosch> yep
[04:29] <adriyel> eh.
[04:29] <adriyel> are we talking about the factorization of primes?
[04:30] <kermitvanfrosch> almost
[04:30] <adriyel> almost?
[04:30] <kermitvanfrosch> that's at least a big part of it ...
[04:30] <P8ntKid> does anybody know anyother mirrors to download Wine? Cuase the wine.sourforge.net/apt mirror doesnt work
[04:30] <durt> why do you need wine?
[04:30] <durt> its a pain
[04:30] <kermitvanfrosch> dammit ... I need to clean up my university-file-folder :)
[04:31] <smoet> thanks for the help everyone, bye
[04:31] <adriyel> dammit
[04:31] <adriyel> I dun think pov-ray is open source
[04:31] <Kyral> ubotu prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink
[04:31] <ubotu> Kyral: okay
[04:31] <adriyel> SOB>
[04:31] <Kyral> !prelink
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink
[04:31] <Gatton> P8ntKid, the Wine from the ubuntu repositories worked fine for me
[04:31] <Kyral> good bot
[04:31] <Kyral> !botsnack
[04:31] <ubotu> :)
[04:31] <Gatton> Kyral, good addition thanks :)
[04:31] <durt> !homosexuals
[04:31] <ubotu> durt: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:31] <P8ntKid> Gatton, Those repos that conatin wine arnt up
[04:32] <Gatton> P8ntKid, oops didn't realize. got mine the other day
[04:32] <jessid> thanks God for sending men and women who wrote and write Ubuntu Linux...to save humanity from hell...ups! Micro$oft
[04:33] <kermitvanfrosch> @adriyel If I do decide to install ubuntu (and it seriously looks like it) I'll be back more often to this channel
[04:33] <adriyel> *nods*
[04:33] <kermitvanfrosch> will give you more information as soon as the website is back up
[04:33] <adriyel> I typically just sit here, since I never reboot into windows
[04:33] <dabar> durt, how about your stinkbox?
[04:33] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, I take great pleasure in optimizing the utter crap out of any proggie I can get my hands on
[04:33] <kermitvanfrosch> I'm pretty sure there is a LOT to optimize ...
[04:34] <jessid> some of you know a program to save an entire web site, for example if I want to save a good tutorial, or something like that???
[04:34] <adriyel> I can offer alternative suggestions for a 64bit environment to run these applications in, but atm, I would suggest Ubuntu unless you're an experienced Linux user
[04:34] <adriyel> kermitvanfrosch, that depends on the program, some programs don't have much to be optimized, some do
[04:34] <kermitvanfrosch> ... I know those programms written by my professors ... most of them are just plain horrible ...
[04:35] <kermitvanfrosch> one love to write java-programms ... that use all the cpu-power they can get all the time ...
[04:35] <qatsi> hello everybody, im having trubble with the sound here. Fresh new install of Hoary with all upgrades.........volume levels are ok, and its playing a mp3....but i dont have sound....any idea ? thanx
[04:36] <kermitvanfrosch> Well, at the moment I'm using SuSE 9.4 64bit ...
[04:36] <kermitvanfrosch> 9.3
[04:36] <sjg> suse...uhg...
[04:36] <sjg> I dont like suse :P
[04:36] <kermitvanfrosch> dammit, those numbers are just right next to each other, how irritating
[04:37] <knowledge_> what's the command to find out how many files (total) are in my home dir?
[04:37] <factotum> i tried suse 6.3 when that came out, wasn't that bad at the time otherwise no opinion either way
[04:37] <kermitvanfrosch> Well, I do like that there is 64bit and 32bit firefox on suse and 32bit is default so there is no problem wth plugins ...
[04:38] <factotum> knowledge_, in a recursive way including sub directories?
[04:38] <kermitvanfrosch> If firefox is 64bit default in hoary that looks like quite a problem
[04:39] <knowledge_> factotum, yeap sir
[04:39] <factotum> sorry for the let down, but not sure
[04:39] <knowledge_> factotum, it's cool
[04:39] <mic_> bob2: tnx got my gnupg updated n working
[04:39] <knowledge_> no worries
[04:39] <dracflamloc> what typically takes more ram, gnome or kde?
[04:40] <sjg> kde imo
[04:40] <nate_> Anybody in here good with gaim?
[04:40] <qatsi> kde i think...
[04:40] <sjg> kde seems like a kludge
[04:40] <paulproteus> nate_: Sure.
[04:40] <qatsi> use fluxbox, runs like hell :)
[04:40] <dracflamloc> lol
[04:40] <dracflamloc> yea i've used fluxbox
[04:40] <adriyel> fluxbox is actually slow
[04:40] <dracflamloc> kinda not in the mood for it atm
[04:40] <dracflamloc> and blackbox
[04:40] <adriyel> use enlightenment if you want purespeed, although flux/bb are good for low memory usage
[04:41] <adriyel> it depends on how many windows you'll have open at the same time
[04:41] <dracflamloc> enlihgtenment eh
[04:41] <nate_> paulproteus: I can't see any of my yahoo friends avatars, at all, and this is a fresh Ubuntu installation.
[04:41] <dracflamloc> never tried it
[04:41] <adriyel> E17 no mods is the fastest window manager, but its not my fav
[04:41] <nate_> Would you have any idea?
[04:41] <qatsi> adriyeln strange, when i used to use fluxbox, it was very good....it might be because it was gentoo
[04:42] <jessid> some of you know the name of a good program to download an entire web site. For example a tutotial, or something like that??? thanks
[04:42] <iiiears> http://www.linux.com/howtos/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x700.shtml    <- counting files?
[04:42] <adriyel> qatsi, no fluxbox is fast, and works nice
[04:42] <paulproteus> nate_: Hmm, I don't know about Yahoo at all.  Try #gaim
[04:42] <jtan325> anyone here done ubuntu packaging/maintaining before?
[04:42] <paulproteus> qatsi: I use xfce4 when I want something light.
[04:43] <paulproteus> jtan325: I've built debs before.
[04:43] <adriyel> qatsi, but if you benchmarked it, you'd find its one of the slowest window managers for "draw time" and "draw latency" and "max load"
[04:43] <paulproteus> I read the Debian New Maintainers Guide, and it was fairly easy.
[04:43] <jtan325> yeah
[04:43] <adriyel> again, I like fluxbox better than E16/E17
[04:43] <jtan325> i am getting this package ready for upload
[04:43] <jtan325> i am trying to figure out this versioning though
[04:43] <qatsi> adriyel uhmm, i see :)......at the moment, im using gnome for ubuntu, and kde for gentoo.....kde 3.4 is great.....
[04:43] <jtan325> should the source folder be named, i.e. conky-1.3.0-0ubuntu1
[04:43] <bimberi> knowledge_: du | wc -l   <-- while in the come directory - not sure if exact but should be fairly close
[04:43] <R3b00t> hey guys!!
[04:44] <adriyel> I used to be a KDE user
[04:44] <qatsi> hey
[04:44] <jtan325> and then "conky" is the package name, and the rest is the version?
[04:44] <adriyel> now I use Gnome/Flux
[04:44] <R3b00t> got a poblem with doom3
[04:44] <adriyel> hi sean_
[04:44] <qatsi> adriyel what distro do you use.....( apart from ubuntu)
[04:44] <adriyel> Gentoo/Slackware/Ubuntu mostly
[04:44] <jtan325> paulproteus, any ideas?
[04:44] <adriyel> depends on what I am doing
[04:44] <R3b00t> at starting I've got this: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[04:44] <nate_> Nobody is saying anything in #gaim, its like a dead, lol.
[04:45] <bimberi> knowledge_: s/come/home     :)
[04:45] <R3b00t> any1 knows why?
[04:45] <claude> Hi, Anyone know how can I use my DVI output instead of my D-Sub (or VGA) output ?
[04:45] <nate_> Well since #gaim is dead, would anybody else know?
[04:45] <volvoguy> hey all. i just got another hand-me-down machine today with two identical hard drives. does anyone know of a *working* how-to for setting up a bootable raid array? hoary and breezy installers seem to choke on the boot manager.
[04:46] <knowledge_> bimberi, thank you kindly
[04:46] <iiiears> ls -R /etc | wc -l                   count + recurse
[04:46] <vladuz976> how is ubuntu differnent from debian?
[04:46] <P8ntKid> Arg, can someone help me with some apt repos
[04:46] <adriyel> volvoguy, you're prolly screwed. You gotta have a RAID enabled motherboard. Sorry.
[04:46] <dabar> volvoguy: ask ubotu about raid, if you have not yet.
[04:46] <qatsi> adriyel, great.....i had red hat for 5 minutes....i hated it......after that, i jumped to gentoo, and after many years of not doing anything in linux, i started with ubuntu, and againwith gentoo
[04:47] <nate_> Does anybody else have the problem in gaim were you can't see your YIM friends avatars?
[04:47] <cyphase> *sigh*
[04:47] <adriyel> Red Hat was my first distro qatsi , it was my first hatred too.
[04:47] <P8ntKid> Lets say the link to the packages i want is http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/hoary/   How could i get that into the apt sources list without it giving me an error?
[04:47] <bimberi> iiiears: ls -R produces a number of blank lines and multiple files per line (for me anyways)
[04:47] <adriyel> I like portage...what can I say?
[04:47] <cyphase> when is ubuntu going to have good ntfs support?
[04:47] <volvoguy> adriyel, thanks. i figured it might be a "chicken or the egg" scenario. i could put one boot partition at the beginning of one drive and a swap at the beginning of the other and then use the rest for RAID though right?
[04:48] <Nuckin_Futs> hello
[04:48] <adriyel> that and uber opta-mah-zations
[04:48] <bimberi> knowledge_: yvw :)
[04:48] <Agrajag> cyphase: when linux has good ntfs support
[04:48] <cyphase> yea, i meant linux :)
[04:48] <iiiears> Huh? - i got a count of like 5,286
[04:48] <adriyel> volvoguy, is your mobo RAID enabled or not?
[04:48] <volvoguy> dabar, yeah. i've scoured the wiki, guides and google already. thus my highlight of the word "working" how-to. :)
[04:48] <Nuckin_Futs> I've tried about everything, but I can
[04:48] <Nuckin_Futs> cant
[04:48] <Agrajag> oh, then when microsoft releases documentation for it
[04:48] <volvoguy> adriyel, nope.
[04:48] <Nuckin_Futs> get my sound to work
[04:48] <qatsi> adriyel, im trying to get into FreeBSD, but im afraid i wont understand a thing :p
[04:48] <Agrajag> and stops making it a moving target for reverse engineers
[04:48] <Nuckin_Futs> its very choppy
[04:49] <dabar> volvoguy: I had suspected that is what it meant, thus the "if you had not"...
[04:49] <volvoguy> adriyel, but if the boot partition is not part of the raid array, it should theoretically boot i think.
[04:49] <nate_> "Red Hat was my first distro qatsi , it was my first hatred too." <-----Same here, I hated Red Hat, and because of that I hated Linux for awhile, but now that I've tried Ubuntu, I am now in mad love with Linux.
[04:49] <paulproteus> Agrajag: Captive NTFS is good.
[04:49] <adriyel> volvoguy, then forget about RAID anything, just divvie up your partitions/parts of the root file system, putting the SWAP on the other drive might marginally help performance
[04:49] <adriyel> captive-ntfs with write capabilities is good
[04:49] <Agrajag> paulproteus: that's not good support in linux though, that's a hack using drivers from windows
[04:49] <adriyel> volvoguy, if your mobo isn't RAID enabled, there is NO raid array
[04:50] <volvoguy> adriyel, i have several machines doing software raid and perform great. i've just never tried *booting* from one.
[04:50] <qatsi> nate_: uhmm, i dont love so much ubuntu...i mean, its great....but idont feel like i have control :P
[04:50] <iiiears> No mystery in why they chose RED for the hat color. - red hat is bleeding edge painful. - the rpm and repos are difficult also
[04:50] <dabar> nate_: you have too ctrong feelings toward OSes.
[04:50] <adriyel> ahhh, software RAID
[04:50] <adriyel> me understands now
[04:51] <adriyel> you never clarified
[04:51] <qatsi> nate_: if you hated Red Hat, try using windows :p
[04:51] <Milk> heya... anyone have time to help me with a cups problem
[04:51] <dabar> love and hate should be practised in very small doses, and also not toward OSes, afaik.
[04:51] <adriyel> meh...you should be fine booting from it
[04:51] <adriyel> just make sure it boots
[04:51] <adriyel> fom
[04:51] <adriyel> from
[04:51] <adriyel> hmm *contemplates*
[04:51] <Nuckin_Futs> Has anyone else had trouble with choppy sound before?
[04:51] <jessid> nate_: the same happened to me with mandrake, then I knew suse, but there is nothing like Ubuntu Linux. Nothing!!! I love this one!!!
[04:52] <iiiears> ((((Ubuntu))))
[04:52] <nate_> "nate_: if you hated Red Hat, try using windows :p" So I did for 8 years XD But not that I'm using Ubuntu, there is no way in hell I'm going back!
[04:52] <dabar> ((dabaR))
[04:52] <Milk> my problem is that ubuntu can't seem to contact CUPS via the gui
[04:52] <volvoguy> adriyel, sorry. i thought a non-raid mobo implied i was trying to do it with software. :) you need a running system to use the array but you need the array to start the system. i'm going to go poke around and see what i can do.
[04:53] <adriyel> I don't think there'll be an issue if you stick by the defaults
[04:53] <adriyel> I don't see why people would use software RAID if you couldn't boot from it
[04:53] <kermitvanfrosch> How big are the chances that my saa7134 based hybrid (analogue/DVB-T) tv-card is going to work in hoary without modifying the kernel?
[04:53] <qatsi> nate_: good....im still stucked with it.....strange, cuz im switching from windows to ubuntu, and in my other computer i have gentoo, which runs great....i think thats the one i love most :p
[04:53] <iiiears> Give me one click install and similar performance for gaming  - pfft no more MS windows.
[04:53] <volvoguy> i use it more for redundancy than performance.
[04:54] <nate_> I've thought about trying other distros but don't want to waste cds when I have a great OS as it is ^_^'
[04:54] <volvoguy> but in this case i was going to experiment with the performance side of RAID. i'll report back on my findings. :)
[04:54] <adriyel> heh, I can tell you that
[04:54] <matt_> what is the ubuntu prescribed method for changing the window manager im going to use?
[04:54] <vladuz976> anybody know if the resolution issue after install will be fixed in breezy
[04:54] <adriyel> volvoguy,
[04:54] <adriyel> are you using two IDE drives?
[04:54] <adriyel> or two SATA
[04:54] <adriyel> or two SCSI even?
[04:55] <adriyel> or two FibreChannel
[04:55] <adriyel> or...or...or..
[04:55] <iiiears> can you HW raid two ide drives?
[04:55] <volvoguy> yep. it's not a performance machine... a freebie.
[04:55] <adriyel> yes iiiears , if the mobo has the ability to do it
[04:55] <volvoguy> two IDE on seperate busses.
[04:55] <iiiears> interesting
[04:55] <qatsi> ha, well guys, you didnt helped me with my sound....you just made me talk about os's.......
[04:55] <adriyel> the problem is that using PATA/IDE with RAID, software or not, has overhead
[04:55] <adriyel> SATA lacks that overhead
[04:55] <volvoguy> iiiears, yeah. i'm pretty sure they make IDE RAID controllers.
[04:56] <Nuckin_Futs> how do u change the play speed, as in the e.g 44kHz?
[04:56] <adriyel> I'd say you're going to get diminishing returns, particularly with software RAID, but the transfer rates will improve markedly
[04:56] <iiiears> 2 ide on seperate buses? - hm. does that create problems for other CD/DVD drives?
[04:56] <vladuz976> how do you send private messages?
[04:56] <adriyel> volvoguy, I know for a FACT they have HW IDE Raid controllers, my last mobo had it
[04:56] <iiiears> only 2 channels no?
[04:56] <adriyel> that depends
[04:56] <adriyel> on the mobo
[04:56] <volvoguy> they're being used in serial form though - they're on different busses.
[04:56] <Evil_Taco> How do I register my nick in IRC?
[04:57] <adriyel> you don't have to use one channel per drive necessarily, you can daisy chain, but it'll hurt performance
[04:57] <Nuckin_Futs>  /msg NickServ REGISTER <password>
[04:57] <volvoguy> adriyel, yep. exactly.
[04:57] <iiiears> Always learn something here. :)
[04:57] <Evil_Taco> thanks
[04:57] <Nuckin_Futs> np
[04:58] <adriyel> volvoguy, I think you'll find using two seperate channels won't necessarily be 100% serail
[04:58] <adriyel> the traces on PATA aren't as robust
[04:58] <P8ntKid> Whats the apt command to uninstall something?
[04:58] <volvoguy> my main machine has some kinda pseudo-hardware sata raid thingie, but i haven't bought a second sata drive to play with it yet.
[04:58] <Nuckin_Futs> so does anybodt know how to change the e.g 44kHz play speed thing?
[04:59] <apprentice> do ubuntu reposteries work with debian?
[04:59] <volvoguy> adriyel, i'm not really trying to compare it to "proper" RAID. i just wanted to see how it compared to using a single IDE drive.
[04:59] <adriyel> the transfer rates will improve
[04:59] <adriyel> nothing else, but its still going to be a marked improvement
[04:59] <bimberi> apprentice: no, mixing ubuntu and debian repos is bad news
[05:00] <iiiears> ubotu tell P8ntKid about apt
[05:00] <apprentice> well the debian peopel dont want to help me with debian
[05:00] <adriyel> bimberi, it leads to death
[05:00] <apprentice> and since i used ubunut like 5 miunutes ago
[05:00] <apprentice> i thought u could help me
[05:00] <bimberi> adriyel: well ... perhaps not :)
[05:00] <volvoguy> adriyel, i think so too. i may try doing some video recording on the machine. does anyone know how to diagnose a 60 cycle ground loop problem when cable tv is plugged into a PCI tv tuner? :)
[05:01] <orlok> volvoguy: dont use the pseudoraid!
[05:01] <adriyel> 60hz ground loop.
[05:01] <apprentice> some plz
[05:02] <volvoguy> i haven't found a comcast tech that even knows what a 60 cycle ground loop noise is.
[05:02] <volvoguy> orlok, i won't be doing any experimenting on my main machine for a while. :) thanks.
[05:03] <vladuz976> how do you set default webrowser or media player?
[05:03] <bimberi> apprentice: What's the problem?
[05:03] <adriyel> volvoguy, I am not a comcast tech, I am 17 y/o geek
[05:03] <apprentice> i cant install x
[05:04] <P8ntKid> what is the link to the place where i can put text in so that i can show people in IRC for ubuntu? Like i can show the error message i am getting
[05:04] <volvoguy> i'm thinking that the internet and tv coming in on the same cable (effectively) is what's causing the problem. *shrug*.
[05:04] <adriyel> prolly.
[05:04] <bimberi> apprentice: Any error message?
[05:05] <apprentice> it just wont find xfree this is a net isntall
[05:05] <apprentice> i need more reposteris
[05:05] <P8ntKid> Can someone help me with this error message i get when i try to install wine?
[05:05] <jamin> hey there
[05:05] <bimberi> apprentice: are you installing hoary?  it uses xorg
[05:05] <apprentice> umm dude im on debian
[05:06] <iiiears> P8ntKid - I hope someone can help you. - have a couple of questions on wine too. - spent a couple of hours and no result.
[05:07] <adriyel> I gave up on wine long ago
[05:07] <bimberi> apprentice: what did they say in #debian?
[05:07] <P8ntKid> iiiears, I cant even get it to download and install
[05:07] <jamin> I'm installing on an Apple G5, and I'm running into the yaboot problem that a lot of other people seem to have encountered, but I haven't been able to find a page that clearly describes a workaround... anyone know where I might look?
[05:07] <iiiears> P8ntKid - there is the #cedega channel on freenode. (usually just too quiet there.)
[05:07] <apprentice> they didnt get me resource for more repos
[05:08] <P8ntKid> iiiears, I might have goten it to work with synaptic
[05:08] <iiiears> P8ntKid - using synaptic and under settings add "Universe Communitty Supported" - synaptic will find it.
[05:08] <P8ntKid> ya
[05:09] <jamin> synaptic, you say?
[05:09] <iiiears> P8ntKid - Cedega is looking like a bargain at sixty dollars and an absolute steal at 15 dollars. - lol
[05:10] <adriyel> iiiears, how about you just go ahead and install cedega for 0 dollars?
[05:11] <adriyel> its CVS, you lazy bugger
[05:11] <bimberi> apprentice: hmm - appears debian.org isn't working atm (for me anyway)
[05:11] <adriyel> they even have a script made to make it easy-cheezie kraft style
[05:11] <P8ntKid> iiiears, Im not paying for anything, expecially when im using linux...
[05:11] <adriyel> hell, if you compile it from CVS, you can even compile it for 64bit and optimize it
[05:11] <iiiears> lol - i need someone to hold my hand the first time install. "emulator virgin"  -  rofl
[05:11] <apprentice> yeah damn debian. im switching to bsd
[05:13] <P8ntKid> iiiears, Can i PM you with my error im getting?
[05:13] <iiiears> i won't know enough to help- sigh
[05:14] <P8ntKid> iiiears, I got Wine to show up on synaptic, but it gives me a error and it tries to download and install it
[05:14] <iiiears> P8ntKid - one more wine question and i start to wring my hands and whine. - lol
[05:15] <iiiears> Huh - could the server at winehq be down?
[05:15] <P8ntKid> iiiears, There is a whole bunch of them, which one to i need to isntall?
[05:15] <whyameye> is there something I don't understand about the spell checker in OpenOffice? It's not catching spelling errors....
[05:15] <cafuego> apprentice: Debian/BSD or another one?
[05:16] <iiiears> i clicked and installed wine alsa and wine-setuptools
[05:16] <apprentice> im gonna do bsd cuase debian is being mean
[05:16] <iiiears> but like i said haven't had any luck with it. (sheepish grin)
[05:18] <castingpearls> is anyone in here currently switching back and forth between kde and gnome in ubuntu??
[05:18] <cafuego> apprentice: mean?
[05:18] <Ex-Cyber> anyone know if the ATI HDTV Wonder card has linux drivers available? I seem to be having trouble finding any chipset or driver info for it
[05:18] <cafuego> castingpearls: I was, until i realised KDE really sucked.
[05:19] <castingpearls> cafuego: does it give you the option of switching between the two at login??
[05:19] <cafuego> castingpearls: Yeah, that's a matter of choosing from the Session menu on the login window.
[05:19] <Crystufer> guys, somebody wanna tell me exactly what a kernel is, or point me at something that will?
[05:19] <castingpearls> cafuego: thanks, i just wanted to make sure before i installed kde
[05:19] <cafuego> Crystufer: a kernel is the thing that sits between the computer hardware and the user applications.
[05:20] <HrdwrBoB> Crystufer: the kernel is the core system drivers
[05:20] <cafuego> Crystufer: Ie: it allows your applications to talk to the hardware in an organised way.
[05:20] <dabaR> also wikipedia might help
[05:20] <Ex-Cyber> Crystufer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computer_science%29
[05:20] <juanej> how do i change xfce DPI?
[05:20] <benjamin1254> need working dvd player 4 gnome .... totem isent workin right
[05:21] <Crystufer> Also, I am running from a live cd cuz my drive was shot. yay for me!
[05:21] <concept10> benjamin1254, whats the problem?
[05:22] <benjamin1254> no sound
[05:22] <concept10> sound in other apps?
[05:22] <benjamin1254> but evrything oyside totem works
[05:22] <benjamin1254> yes
[05:22] <cafuego> Don't you think fixing the sound on totem might be  abetter option?
[05:22] <benjamin1254> idk how
[05:22] <mic_> how do get libstdc++.so.6 in 5.04?
[05:23] <PenguinOf> Is it possible to install Ubuntu over the Internet, without downloading a CD image?
[05:23] <cafuego> PenguinOf: Not really, you need a minimum set of files.
[05:23] <concept10> benjamin1254, why dont you try VLC
[05:23] <benjamin1254> vlc?
[05:23] <concept10> !vlc
[05:23] <ubotu> concept10: Wish i knew
[05:23] <PenguinOf> cafuego: Sure. Does something like that exist?
[05:23] <mic_> PenguinOf: i think it's better to download the image
[05:23] <durt> what do i need to install to be able to use "alsaconf"
[05:24] <concept10> !info vlc
[05:24] <PenguinOf> mic_: I can't boot a CD image over the network and I don't have a burner handy.
[05:24] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[05:24] <cafuego> PenguinOf: You could PROBABLY get away with using the debian netinst image, pointing that at the Ubuntu sources after the initial setup.
[05:24] <cafuego> PenguinOf: That's a still 100Mb of download, though.
[05:24] <durt> !alsaconf
[05:24] <ubotu> durt: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:24] <PenguinOf> cafuego: 35MB, AFAIK :P
[05:24] <cafuego> PenguinOf: Maybe the debian boot-floppies set with an ubuntu apt source...
[05:24] <PenguinOf> blarf
[05:25] <cafuego> or the tftp netboot image with an ubuntu source
[05:25] <TaxMan> Can anyone help me customize a livecd to have the JDK and IntelliJ IDEA? I followed the wiki about this, but I'm not sure how to install the JDK and IDEA on it because they are not packages available via apt-get.
[05:26] <PenguinOf> cafuego: I wonder if it's possible to netboot a small rescue disk, then deposit Ubuntu on the target hard drive.
[05:26] <pietro_spina> hey, Does anyone here know how to do an apt-cache search or something with apt-get to list packages that are upgradable?
[05:26] <PenguinOf> I mean the CD image. Then boot from it somehow.
[05:26] <benjamin1254> vlc-gnome.................. is ubuntu gnome?
[05:26] <Velox> TaxMan: You need to temporarily add the extra packages and backports to your /etc/apt/sources.list. See http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:26] <PenguinOf> grajkrgnfad
[05:26] <mic_> how do I install libstdc++.so.6?
[05:27] <concept10> ubotu, VLC is VLC (initially VideoLAN Client) is a highly portable multimedia player for various audio and video formats as well as DVDs, VCDs, and various streaming protocols. Read more at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[05:27] <ubotu> concept10: what are you talking about?
[05:27] <durt> OK - this is annoying as hell: i played with xorg.conf, but i still cant get rid of the touchpad click-on-tap. any ideas?
[05:27] <benjamin1254> dling now at 18.6
[05:27] <benjamin1254> kbs
[05:27] <benjamin1254> kb/s
[05:27] <concept10> ubotu vlc is VLC (initially VideoLAN Client,a highly portable multimedia player for various audio and video formats as well as DVDs, VCDs, and various streaming protocols. Read more at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[05:27] <ubotu> concept10: what are you talking about?
[05:28] <concept10> oh well
[05:28] <pietro_spina> yes I know Synaptic... would show them...  I just want to know the CL way also...
[05:28] <concept10> !ubotu vlc is VLC (initially VideoLAN Client,a highly portable multimedia player for various audio and video formats as well as DVDs, VCDs, and various streaming protocols. Read more at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[05:28] <Velox> mic_: I opened up Synaptic, entered libstdc++, and I was able to find libstdc++6 easily.
[05:28] <benjamin1254> the bot is anoying plz rad more a varyanoyyed.com
[05:29] <xav_> hi! where the hell the theme clearlooks quicksilver went ?? [breezy] 
[05:29] <mic_> Velox: i found it but how do i install it
[05:29] <juanej> what is that dpkg-reconfigure xorg command to reconfigure xorg?
[05:29] <cafuego> !test
[05:29] <ubotu> Crashed.
[05:29] <P8ntKid> iiiears, Did you get it to work? what error are you getting?
[05:29] <paganini> I have returned to bother all you friendly gurus again
[05:29] <ofer0> xav_, you can download it from gnome-look.org
[05:29] <ofer0> juanej, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <skpl> is it normal for ubuntu linux to sometimes not register my mouse clicks, for example having to click twice on dialougues etc to make them actually work?
[05:29] <juanej> that one thx
[05:29] <xav_> ofer0, thx
[05:30] <cafuego> skpl: no
[05:30] <Velox> mic_: Right click, hit Mark for Installation, and then click the Apply button on the toolbar.
[05:30] <iiiears> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45   Cedega from CVS looks like a clear explanation
[05:30] <skpl> cafuego: do you have any idea on what might be causeing that?
[05:30] <cafuego> skpl: are the dialogs maybe not active, so you click once to select the dialog, then again to hit  abutton...?
[05:31] <snareguy> has anyone fixed issues with a dell monitor/ati drivers?
[05:31] <P8ntKid> im just gona find a torrent for cedega
[05:32] <iiiears> P8ntKid - is that link a thorough walkthrough?  (got my fingers crossed)
[05:32] <snareguy> i can't seem to get my screen resolution past 1024 x 768
[05:32] <mic_> Volex: got it
[05:32] <Velox> Volex...thats new o.o
[05:33] <ofer0> snareguy, you will have to edit xorg.conf if you want other resolution in System -> Preferences -> Screen Reso
[05:33] <iiiears> P8nt, - hm - i worry about added "features" from a torrent d/l like stolen cedega.
[05:33] <concept10> benjamin1254, did you install VLC and try that?
[05:33] <paganini> The problem: I'm attempting to migrate my ubuntu install (this one here that I'm IRCing from) over to a machine that has leeter hardware. So, here what I have done: 1 - I took the Big Drive from the Leet Machine and plugged it into this machine. 2 - I repartitioned the drive with FDISK and MKFS. 3 - I rebooted the machine using a live disk (so that my current root filesystem would not be mounted as /). 4 - I mounted the two partitions (m
[05:33] <paganini> y usual root partition, and the target empty partition) on /mnt/ubuntusource and /mnt/ubuntudest respectively. 5 - I did cp -Rav * /mnt/ubuntudest while in the /mnt/ubuntusrc directory. 6 - I edited the new /boot/grub/menu.lst and /boot/grub/device.map and /etc/fstab files to agree with the new setup.
[05:33] <paganini> - more 9
[05:33] <benjamin1254> how do u use dual screen... one for 1 app the other 4 another
[05:33] <Velox> iiiears: Just shell out the $15 ($5/month, min 3 months) for Point2Play...best $15 I ever spent.
[05:34] <TomT64> what's the file that contains info on booting different partitions
[05:34] <iiiears> Exactly! :)
[05:34] <ofer0> snareguy, you can do it by "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:34] <skpl> cafuego: that must be it
[05:34] <mic_> Volex: so stupid of me. hehe. anyways tnx. i just got my skype running
[05:34] <Velox> TomT64: /etc/fstab
[05:34] <snareguy> i edited the resolution for depth 24.... do i need to change the xconf for every instance that i find mentioning resolutions?
[05:34] <TomT64> Velox: thanks
[05:34] <paganini> 7 - I moved the Big HD back over to the Leet Machine. IT wouldn't boot. IT said "operating system not found" which is a bios error. So, no biggie, grub not installed. 8 - I booted off the install disk in rescue mode, alt-F2ed to the virtual console chrooted to /target, and ran update-grub, then grub-install.
[05:35] <paganini> Grub says: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[05:35] <paganini> The file is there, and it is 512 bytes.
[05:35] <paganini> So... what should I try next?
[05:35] <iiiears> Velox - geez - it can't be easy to cut the gordian knot of MS direct-x    certainly worth a little money for their effort.
[05:36] <benjamin1254> 
[05:36] <nitin> guys i enabled the ldap module and apache spits this error when starting:
[05:36] <nitin>  Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2-prefork/mod_auth_ldap.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2-prefork/mod_auth_ldap.so: undefined symbol: util_ldap_connection_close
[05:36] <Velox> iiiears: Indeed...they tirelessly slave over their code to bring Linux users DirectX and better games support, its definately worth it.
[05:37] <Velox> nitin: Never used mod_auth_ldap, but does it have any depends?
[05:37] <iiiears> Loki bankruptcy is still fresh in my mind. - would be damn nice to have them be around still.
[05:37] <nitin> Velox: no clue
[05:38] <EasterSunshine> i have an unknown nvidia agp video card in front of me, i've been trying to identify it for quite some time now using pictures on the web, but to no success, any ideas?
[05:39] <iiiears> lspci - should tell the story of that unkown card
[05:39] <durt> EasterSunshine google its part number
[05:40] <iiiears> a little experimentation with ram settings and you'll be golden
[05:40] <iiiears> ram size
[05:40] <anekdoten> i installed unbuntu on ide2, i was expecting to be asked for a bootloader config and i wasnt, now it appears to have overwritten my mbr which was my 120gig ntfs drive, how can i fix this? the data on there is critical, and it would be hard to get the backups
[05:40] <skpl> how do i show...hidden files in my directories?
[05:40] <EasterSunshine> durt: sry i do not know the part number, but any site where i can find big pictures of them? nvidia site surprisingly doesnt have pics of their cards
[05:41] <EasterSunshine> skpl: doing `ls -a` will show all teh files in a directory
[05:41] <skpl> thank you EasterSunshine
[05:41] <jkindy> wat are some things to do in linux
[05:41] <EasterSunshine> skpl: includign the hidden ones, the ones that start their filename with a period
[05:41] <iiiears> EasterSunshine - ??? what do you need that lspci doesn't tell you?
[05:42] <EasterSunshine> iiiears: oh sry, its not inside my comp right now
[05:42] <skpl> EasterSunshine: thank you
[05:42] <Velox> jkindy: What do you mean?
[05:42] <Velox> Too late.
[05:42] <anekdoten> anyone?
[05:42] <EasterSunshine> iiiears: it would be cool if i could do lspci and get info on cards outside my comp
[05:43] <iiiears> EasterSunshine - Do you see an FCC ID# listed on the card somewhere?
[05:43] <Velox> anekdoten: Is the original MBR Windows?
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> skpl: np :)
[05:43] <anekdoten> yes
[05:43] <anekdoten> i think
[05:43] <billytwowilly> if you guys had to buy a wireless router(802.11g) for home right now, what would you buy?
[05:43] <anekdoten> or one of those segate drive overlays
[05:43] <billytwowilly> my wrt54g just died
[05:43] <Velox> anekdoten: You can load up the Windows CD and run /fixmbr I think it is.
[05:43] <iiiears> if so FCC.gov - has a list of -ALL- electrical devices
[05:43] <paganini> Anekdoten, you'll need to boot off of your Windows XP install disk and select "recovery mode"
[05:44] <paganini> From there you'll get a console where you can run fixmbr
[05:44] <anekdoten> ok
[05:44] <Velox> In recovery shell.
[05:44] <anekdoten> and the data will still be there eh?
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> iiiears: let me take a look, thx
[05:44] <ofer0> billytwowilly, i like Edimax BR6114WG
[05:44] <Velox> Look it up...god knows enough people want to restore their Window's bootloaders.
[05:44] <anekdoten> ok
[05:44] <billytwowilly> ofer0, linky?
[05:45] <anekdoten> well i mean it never had windows installed on it, it was just formatted as ntfs
[05:45] <anekdoten> i guess ill take a look on the web
[05:45] <anekdoten> it didnt have an OS at all on it, just a data disk
[05:45] <paganini> Oh, also, at boot I get "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
[05:45] <ofer0> billytwowilly, check it here: http://www.edimax.com.tw/html/english/products/BR-6114Wg.htm
[05:46] <billytwowilly> ofer0, only one antenna... lame...
[05:46] <paganini> So it did install when I ran "grub-install" before I took it out of the not-leet box
[05:46] <iiiears> !recoverubuntuafterinstallingwindows
[05:46] <ubotu> No idea, iiiears
[05:46] <iiiears> !recoverubuntu
[05:46] <ubotu> iiiears: What?
[05:46] <iiiears> !grub
[05:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:50] <benjamin1254> still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps even through vlc
[05:50] <halu> by
[05:51] <xav> can someone send the gtkrc file: /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks Quicksilver ?
[05:51] <benjamin1254> still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps even through vlc
[05:52] <vitriol> can anybody explain this to me: 64 Mobile Technology  is known _not_ to support power-saving. ( i get this when i boot up )
[05:52] <vitriol> but speed stepping works just fine with powernowd
[05:52] <vitriol> i dunno what that means, exactly
[05:52] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: it's because the script that says that is stupid
[05:52] <xav> can someone send the gtkrc file: /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks Quicksilver ? please
[05:52] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: okiedokie thanks for clearning that up :)
[05:53] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: no worries :)
[05:53] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: same hing on opterons
[05:53] <HrdwrBoB> thing
[05:53] <HrdwrBoB> which now support coolnquiet
[05:53] <vitriol> bwah
[05:53] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: do they support coolnquiet in 2.6.10?
[05:53] <NamShub> Hi
[05:53] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: powernowd wasn't working for me in 2.6.10 or 2.6.11 ubuntu kernels
[05:54] <vitriol> works fine with 2.6.12 though
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: yep
[05:54] <benjamin1254> still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps even through vlc
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: the script didn't load the module though
[05:54] <NamShub> I have problems installing (k)ubuntu on my laptop. It fails when trying to "install network devices"
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: you had to load it manually
[05:54] <vitriol> oohh
[05:54] <snareguy> display drivers are now working, thank you for the help
[05:54] <vitriol> HrdwrBoB: was it available as a module in those previous kernels?
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> vitriol: yes
[05:54] <vitriol> ok
[05:54] <HrdwrBoB> powernow-k8
[05:54] <vitriol> aha!
[05:54] <snareguy> now, i just have to get this sound blaster audigy 2 working and i'm good
[05:55] <snareguy> has anyone done this
[05:55] <NamShub> any clue? my laptop is a LG LW60
[05:55] <HrdwrBoB> !audigy
[05:55] <ubotu> it has been said that audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[05:55] <iiiears> !chmod
[05:55] <ubotu> iiiears: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:55] <NamShub> I dont care if the eth card isnt detected (i use wifi) but atleast I want to be able to continue the installation process :)
[05:55] <snareguy> i'll try that, thank you
[05:55] <vitriol> maybe breezy will have better detection of k8 cpus
[05:56] <vitriol> iiiears: what do you need to know about chmod?
[05:56] <benjamin1254> still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps even through vlc
[05:56] <vitriol> iiiears: man chmod will tell you pretty much everything you need to know, unless you are confused about that particular command ;)
[05:57] <NamShub> how can I disable network detection at install?
[05:58] <P8ntKid> Im having problems installing cedega on ubuntu
[05:58] <Velox> NamShub: Use the expert install.
[05:58] <EasterSunshine> ubotu chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[05:58] <ubotu> okay, EasterSunshine
[05:58] <NamShub> Velox: ok ill try that, thanks
[05:58] <iiiears>  a bunch of *.txt files recorded to DVD from windows have the execute bit set? - why is that?
[05:59] <zoexi> hey,  I have keyboard layout problems.  I can set the layout to spanish, and it all works except for the accent key, I should be able to type it before any vowel and I should end up with an accented vowel.  Instead I get a vowel with an accent mark sitting to its left. a e i o u.  Is there a way to fix this?
[05:59] <Velox> P8ntKid: Just invest in a download subscription from TransGaming, it saves alot of hassle.
[05:59] <xav> is someone having troubles with xine-ui ?? if xine tries to show a menu (right click for instance) it quits complaning about glibc
[05:59] <juanej> zoexi, use spanish layout, and pc105 or something
[05:59] <xav> any idea ?
[05:59] <juanej> works for me 
[05:59] <Velox> Besides that, it helps support TransGaming for them to program Cedega/Point2Play.
[06:00] <P8ntKid> Well, I would be using wine, but i cant seem to get that to work... and nobody can help me
[06:01] <TraceGreen>  Hello, something wrong with my bootsplash, if i add splash=silent nomce quiet in my grub, just black screen when boot.
[06:01] <talios> howdy - the other day my nautilus just up and dissapeared and no longer seems to run.  did a recent update in hoary break something?
[06:03] <zoexi> OK,  I tried changing the keyboard model and i get no luck,  Do I need to restart something before it works?
[06:04] <benjamin1254> still m not gettin ne sound out of ne of my dvd player apps ... this is getting to me.. i would like to watch my dvds
[06:04] <benjamin1254> vlc doesent even get audio but everything else plays audio
[06:04] <zoexi> benjamin1254, what apps?  does other audio work?
[06:05] <benjamin1254> my dvd audio dont wana show up
[06:05] <benjamin1254> vls does show video and so do others but no audio
[06:05] <zoexi> benjamin1254, it is probably the pipeline
[06:05] <Velox> ben_d: Your DVD software might be using an incorrect sound engine.
[06:05] <pcd927> whats a good site for ubuntu softwear
[06:05] <Velox> Ack
[06:05] <Velox> benjamin*
[06:06] <mae> guys i'm having a serious problem starting x in colony-1 .. i get "No input driver matching `keyboard'" and "Failed to load module "keyboard" (module does not exist, 0)"
[06:06] <benjamin1254> explain i dont get it
[06:06] <zoexi> benjamin1254, check multimedia systems selector under the system menu, make sure that the selected system matches those set in the prefs of your other apps
[06:07] <Velox> pcd927: You can get almost any software you need from the repositiory system. See http://www.ubuntuguide.org about adding extra repositories.
[06:07] <pcd927> i need a site for softwear
[06:07] <Velox> pcd927: Try opening the Synaptic package manager
[06:07] <mae> i've never had this kind of problem before
[06:07] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me with installing Wine?
[06:08] <NoUse> !wine
[06:09] <P8ntKid> NoUse, You have said that many times, that does not help with my problem.
[06:09] <mae> p8ntKid you havent tried the version in the apt repository
[06:09] <mae> ?
[06:10] <mae> P8ntKid: type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[06:10] <mae> its as simple as that
[06:10] <P8ntKid> mae, Its not as simple as that, there is dependanciy issues
[06:10] <ray> im getting the following error trying to open alsamixer   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[06:11] <drewfusmaximus> anyone available to help me?
[06:11] <mae> P8ntKid: apt takes care of dependency issues automatically, try what i just said
[06:11] <drewfusmaximus> im having a problem with my monitor
[06:11] <paganini> RAWWWWK!
[06:11] <mae> rather it automatically installs needed dependencies
[06:11] <paganini> It do be working.
[06:11] <NoUse> P8ntKid paste your output to http;//paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:11] <P8ntKid> mae, I have tried that probably over 100 times in the paste 3 hours.
[06:11] <paganini> For some reason, google didn't direct me to that page.
[06:11] <paganini> Thanks for the pointer!
[06:11] <mae> P8ntKid: don't get mad at me, i just got here.
[06:12] <mae> P8ntKid: you get some type of error
[06:12] <mae> P8ntKid: what is the error (i have no X right now so i can't lookup the pastebin)
[06:12] <lui> P8ntKid, just try what mae says that make all the things for you
[06:12] <NoUse> P8ntKid you could paste to #flood too
[06:12] <P8ntKid> lui, Stop.
[06:12] <Velox> P8ntKid: It sounds like ALSA is installed incorrectly.
[06:13] <mae> P8ntKid: please post the error in #flood
[06:13] <P8ntKid> im in flood
[06:13] <drewfusmaximus> is anyone able to help me out?
[06:14] <P8ntKid> i just posted it
[06:14] <benjamin1254> could i get xine for ubuntu?
[06:14] <benjamin1254> the gnome version
[06:14] <NoUse> P8ntKid try sudo apt-get -f install
[06:14] <Velox> drewfusmaximus: Whatcha need and I'll try to help.
[06:14] <P8ntKid> NoUse, I did.
[06:15] <P8ntKid> I have tried everything
[06:15] <kevman> I just apt-get updated from Warty to Hoary.
[06:15] <benjamin1254> could i get xine for ubuntu?
[06:15] <benjamin1254> the gnome version
[06:15] <drewfusmaximus> im having trouble with my monitor
[06:15] <ofer0> benjamin1254, sudo apt-get install gxine ?
[06:15] <kevman> Everything is fine, except I can no longer access my Internet connection through my NIC.
[06:15] <kevman> Is there some change that was made that I can revert?
[06:15] <Velox> drewfusmaximus: What kinds of problems?
[06:16] <drewfusmaximus> i just installed and when the gui logon started it was out of range of my monitor
[06:16] <titanium> my friend just said "ubuntu doesnt seem to be focused for any specific task ie for a server,  im looking for something more server related" -- to him a server being halflife or something. what should i say to refute him for great comedy
[06:16] <drewfusmaximus> so i took someones lcd monitor and im on it now, but i cant keep this one for long
[06:16] <EasterSunshine> my brother just told me nvidia's geforce 4 mx is worse than geforce 3? is that true?
[06:17] <dbw_> no.
[06:17] <Velox> drewfusmaximus: You can try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try automatic detection again. On one of my boxes it took a reconfig to detect my monitor.
[06:17] <dbw_> good night
[06:17] <drewfusmaximus> how do i do that
[06:17] <ofer0> EasterSunshine, if we are talking about GeForce 3 Ti200, then yeah, its true
[06:18] <ofer0> drewfusmaximus, run your system using recovery mode. just choose recovery in the grub menu
[06:18] <drewfusmaximus> sorry im new so i dont know much about the linux world of computers
[06:18] <Velox> drewfusmaximus: No problem. Are you at a command line right now? (just text)?
[06:18] <ofer0> drewfusmaximus, then run this command: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:18] <drewfusmaximus> no im in the gui
[06:18] <adam_> from what i know gforce 4mx indeed is worse than gforce 3
[06:18] <mojo243> does anyone know of a guide to show me how to set up Icon packages?
[06:18] <mae> can anyone help me with this strange "keyboard" issue with xorg
[06:19] <Velox> drewfusmaximus: So whats the problem?
[06:19] <adam_> mojo243: system > preference >  theme > install
[06:19] <drewfusmaximus> im on a moniter that i cant use for long
[06:19] <drewfusmaximus> im in a terminal now
[06:19] <drewfusmaximus> i just opened it
[06:19] <kevman> Could it be because of IPv6?
[06:19] <kevman> Can I disable ipv6 in Hoary?
[06:20] <ofer0> mojo243, just drag and drop the .tar.gz file into the system > preference >  theme (thanx to adam_) window
[06:20] <Velox> drewfusmaximus: You'd need to be on the old monitor to probe.
[06:20] <benplaut> hello everyone :)
[06:20] <mojo243> what extension does the icon pack have to be in?
[06:20] <drewfusmaximus> so nothing i do will matter if i do it now
[06:20] <adam_> mojo243: you don't have to untart it
[06:20] <adam_> just drag and drop
[06:20] <adam_> untar*
[06:21] <mae> untart, hah
[06:21] <adam_> +_+
[06:21] <benplaut> unfart is coming next?
[06:21] <ray> im getting the following error trying to open alsamixer   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[06:22] <drewfusmaximus> is the hardware the problem or is it my moniter
[06:22] <drewfusmaximus> or
[06:22] <mojo243> no luck.
[06:22] <mojo243> does anyone want to see the txt file that came with it?  It asks me to do a few things
[06:23] <adam_> mojo243: ohohoh i will!
[06:23] <adam_> mojo243: but not sure ican be helpful;
[06:23] <Velox> ray: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/349193 <-- there seems to be a solution at the bottom of the page.
[06:24] <bmecoli> yipee
[06:24] <bmecoli> didn't know there was a IRC chan until now
[06:24] <bmecoli> yay
[06:24] <mojo243> the thing is, I dont have a GTK folder in my custom theme area
[06:24] <TraceGreen>  Hello, can anyone help me with bootsplash?
[06:24] <bmecoli> um... anywho
[06:24] <bmecoli> I can't get gcc on here
[06:25] <bmecoli> it seems as so that I need a compiler to compile a... compiler
[06:25] <bmecoli> si I'm the screwed ;/
[06:25] <esc> does anyone know how I can open a windows .txt file in linux? I am getting an error saying the character coding was not detected.
[06:25] <NoUse> bmecoli what happens when you apt-get it?
[06:25] <adam_> mojo243: a... i lost the file; can you try that once more sorry >_<
[06:26] <bmecoli> apt-get it??
[06:26] <bmecoli> I'm a linux n00b :D
[06:26] <NoUse> bmecoli use synaptic
[06:26] <NoUse> !synaptic
[06:26] <ubotu> I guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[06:26] <bmecoli> ooooh
[06:26] <bmecoli> thank you.. I shall read that
[06:26] <NoUse> np
[06:27] <bimberi> bmecoli: install the build-essential package (includes the compiler plus a few other goodies)
[06:27] <EasterSunshine> when i run glxgears, it reports 90 fps, but it actually looks like 20, can it be possible that X can't keep up with the buffer swaps?
[06:27] <Velox> Ouch FPS. Thats not near enough for games.
[06:27] <adam_> mojo243: a... i think you have to create a folder named :gtk-2.0
[06:28] <adam_> mojo243: but..i'm not sure.. i'm a newbie also +_=
[06:28] <EasterSunshine> Velox: i don't have drivers installed on my savage3, 32 megs
[06:28] <EasterSunshine> Velox: what do you get? 1000+?
[06:29] <mojo243> ya, it just doest explain very well :( im spoiled by the forum howtoos.
[06:29] <bmecoli> oh that is cool! OOOH THAT IS COOL
[06:30] <bmecoli> package manager!
[06:30] <bmecoli> whooo!
[06:30] <tritium> hi nalioth
[06:30] <adam_> lol
[06:30] <ray> Velox, thaNKS
[06:30] <Velox> EasterSunshine: I get about 10000 FPS
[06:31] <EasterSunshine> jesus...
[06:32] <EasterSunshine> what card?
[06:32] <anekdoten> is there a way to reinstall grub from the ubuntu install cd?
[06:32] <mae> well brb
[06:32] <Velox> GeForce FX 5950 Ultra 256mb
[06:32] <mae> HEY
[06:32] <mae> i have the same card
[06:32] <mae> :)
[06:32] <Velox> !grub
[06:32] <ubotu> grub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:32] <anekdoten> ah thanks
[06:32] <Tripp> Does anyone know anyway of sending info to Ubuntu directy?
[06:33] <Burgundavia> Tripp, what do you mean?
[06:33] <Velox> mae: =)
[06:33] <Tripp> They support two laptops right now, I want them to know that there's a third, and there's no problems with it in anyway.
[06:34] <zoexi> OL, OL OL OL!!!
[06:34] <Burgundavia> Tripp, if you have enough time LaptopTestingTeam is for you
[06:34] <Burgundavia> Tripp, if you don't, you need HardwareSupportLaptops
[06:34] <Burgundavia> Tripp, both on wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <zoexi> fixed,  I saw the triangle next to spanish in the layout list, and figured it contained different flavours (like spanish vs. spanish iso in OS X) and was selecting those
[06:35] <dooglus> is there any known way of getting 'universe' bugs fixed?
[06:35] <Evil_Taco> Does anybody know how to convert OGG to MP3?
[06:35] <Belutz> anyone has tried google talk with gaim?
[06:35] <Velox> Belutz: I'm about to connect.
[06:36] <benplaut> Belutz, yup
[06:36] <benplaut> works fine for me
[06:36] <Belutz> Velox: why it won't connect...
[06:36] <Velox> Did you set it up as pet the guide?
[06:36] <Belutz> i follow the instructions on google website
[06:36] <zoexi> Evil_Taco, I was able to use mplayer/mencoder to do it once with fedora
[06:36] <benplaut> Belutz: got a firewall?
[06:37] <Evil_Taco> Uh, how?????
[06:37] <Belutz> benplaut: hmmm built in firestarter, it shouldn't be a problem right?
[06:37] <zoexi> Evil_Taco, lots of man page reading.  It was't easy, but it was possible
[06:37] <Burgundavia> dooglus, have you filed a bug?
[06:38] <Evil_Taco> hmm
[06:38] <benplaut> Belutz: can you use jabber without problems?
[06:38] <Evil_Taco> uh is FLAC audio the same as MP3?
[06:39] <adam_> Google Talk on Gaim : http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24073
[06:39] <_john> hey, i have a question about open office. (1.1.3).  How do i turn off the autocomplete word thing? like how if im typing "animal" and I had used the word "another" earlier, it will make "animal" "another"?
[06:39] <Velox> Belutz: I use Firestarter, and by default it allows outgoing connections just fine.
[06:39] <Evil_Taco> or with FLAC audio can windows media player play it?
[06:39] <Belutz> benplaut, Velox: sorry, my bad, i use xxx@gmail.com as my screen name, it suppose to be just xxx
[06:39] <Belutz> hmmm but it still won't connect, it keep asking me for my password
[06:39] <pinko> Evil_Taco: lossless.  it claims not to compress more than 30-50%, but it'll sound perfect
[06:39] <Velox> Belutz: That'd do it =)
[06:40] <Evil_Taco> uh can windows media player play it?
[06:40] <pinko> probably, if you install FLAC
[06:41] <mae> woot got xorg going again
[06:41] <pinko> C=codec
[06:41] <zoexi> Evil_Taco, not a clue.   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide#Audio_Codecs  if you want to give mencoder a try
[06:41] <ce_Nevo> hiiiiii
[06:41] <benplaut> hi
[06:41] <Evil_Taco> okay, thanks guys
[06:41] <Belutz> benplaut: can i have your gtalk id, i want to test messaging someone :)
[06:42] <benjamin1254> lol thanks for talking so much it keeps me awake seeing as everytime u guys talk my pc squeeks like a bat
[06:42] <Velox> benjamin1254: Heh
[06:43] <Yuusou> hello?
[06:43] <Velox> Hello
[06:43] <Yuusou> why can't I send messages to debian channel?
[06:43] <firez> Does anyone has uninstalled the Java SDK before?
[06:44] <Yuusou> I can't send messages to debian's channel, I'm on Knoppix Live CD, anyone know why this is happening?
[06:44] <NoUse> Yuusou not sure, what kind of problem are you having?
[06:44] <mae> well thats a lot of information to go on..
[06:45] <Yuusou> NoUse, it just says cannot send to channel
[06:45] <mae> Yuusou, i highly doubt it has something to do with knoppix
[06:45] <Yuusou> well, since I can't speak in debian, does anyone in here know anything about it?
[06:45] <Velox> Yuusou: The channel may be for registered users only.
[06:46] <NoUse> Velox good call
[06:46] <mae> Yuusou, yes, there is much similarity between ubuntu and debian..
[06:46] <Yuusou> Velox, I just registered my username and it still doesn't work
[06:46] <mae> maybe he lost his v
[06:46] <Velox> Yuusou: reenter the channel?
[06:46] <Yuusou> Velox, did that 3 or 4 times now
[06:46] <Velox> That reminds me as well...*makes a new username*
[06:47] <jtan325> is there a way to dpkg-buildpackage without the -k option, i.e. it looks up your id in a file or env. variable?
[06:48] <Yuusou> well, since I can't send to debian, can anyone help me with a display problem?
[06:48] <Velox> Yuusou: what kind of problem?
[06:48] <Yuusou> I boot into debian and it says: Cannot Display This Video Mode   or something like that
[06:48] <Yuusou> I can't see anything except that
[06:49] <odyssey> what is breezy like to use? any new amazing features?
[06:49] <Velox> Yuusou: No command line?
[06:49] <Yuusou> Velox, no, nothing except that
[06:49] <DeltaF> Is ubuntu the distro that's compatible with .debs from debian?
[06:49] <adriyel> I need help with Doom3
[06:49] <mae> odyssey, well for starters it has gnome 2.12 prerelease which features are outlined here: http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
[06:50] <adriyel> my sound isn't working on Doom3. I use Hoary, 64-bit
[06:50] <NoUse> DeltaF ubutnu uses debs but they aren't all necesarily compatbile
[06:50] <thrice`> adriyel: cool
[06:50] <adriyel> can anyone help?
[06:50] <adriyel> thrice`, not cool. I want sound
[06:50] <odyssey> mae, so apart from gnome 2.12 nothing else?
[06:51] <thrice`> adriyel: then fix it
[06:51] <Yuusou> Velox, it's a black screen exxcept for that error message
[06:51] <WeirdAl> Hey
[06:51] <adriyel> thrice`, are you trying to antagonize me?
[06:51] <DeltaF> Darn.. Well, is ubuntu fairly straightforward to setup as a development box for other architectures?
[06:51] <mae> odyssey, oh sure lots of changes under the hood, its all compiled with gcc 4 is another thing
[06:51] <WeirdAl> I'm getting a \kernel panic at startup
[06:51] <mae> ...
[06:51] <mae> usplash various updates
[06:51] <bimberi> !breezy
[06:51] <ubotu> methinks breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:51] <thrice`> adriyel: no; you come in expecting others to fix your problems
[06:52] <adriyel> thrice`, I am asking for help you arrogant bastard. I've already done the normal checks
[06:52] <mae> odyssey, gnome 2.12 is actually a quite significant update if you'll look at that link i gave you..
[06:52] <WeirdAl> It says "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[06:52] <zoexi> can help files and dictionaries for open office be apt-gotten?  If so what are they called?
[06:52] <WeirdAl> "
[06:52] <DeltaF> Insulting support isn't the way to get help..
[06:52] <thrice`> adriyel: no; you said "my sound doesn't work in doom3"
[06:52] <adriyel> and then I described my system
[06:52] <adriyel> 64 bit hoary, AC' 97 sound
[06:52] <adriyel> no crash
[06:52] <adriyel> no error
[06:52] <Velox> Yuusou: Try pressing CTRL + F2
[06:52] <adriyel> sound all works otherwise
[06:53] <WeirdAl> I think it started with the latest kernel update. I only just got it connected to the internet yesterday.
[06:53] <thrice`> you ran it from a termianl and found your sound error ?
[06:53] <adriyel> I tried telling doom3 to use alsa instead of oss, no change
[06:53] <durt> did you try... alsaconf
[06:53] <adriyel> *no error*
[06:53] <adriyel> I checked for muted items, nothing muted
[06:53] <adriyel> it acts like its muted
[06:53] <adriyel> the volume in doom3 isn't muted
[06:54] <WeirdAl> Anyone? Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[06:54] <dracflamloc> whats the command to configure firestarter
[06:54] <WeirdAl> :(
[06:54] <dracflamloc> ?
[06:54] <Yuusou> okay
[06:54] <Yuusou> oh
[06:54] <Yuusou> there we go
[06:54] <Yuusou> okay penny, what's next?
[06:54] <adriyel> I'm going to force it from the console to use Alsa
[06:55] <adriyel> if it still doesn't work, I am going beszerk
[06:55] <Yuusou> Velox, didn't work
[06:56] <Velox> Yuusou: Did that open a command line at least? (text login)
[06:56] <adriyel> no change
[06:56] <adriyel> alsa works fine durt
[06:56] <adriyel> its doom3
[06:56] <Yuusou> it minimized xchat is all
[06:56] <Yuusou> XD
[06:56] <adriyel> I'm gonna double check, and make absolutely certain nothing is muted
[06:56] <Yuusou> oh wait
[06:57] <Yuusou> you want me to boot into debian, then try that?
[06:57] <snareguy> would anyone know how to get my dell 5.1 speakers working with my sound blaster audigy 2 card?
[06:57] <adriyel> still no change
[06:57] <adriyel> *bangs head on desk*
[06:57] <adriyel> ...
[06:58] <Yuusou> Velox, do I do that when I see the error message?
[06:58] <mae> so, what do yall think of cairo
[06:59] <odyssey> mae, you can see the difference?
[06:59] <mae> odyssey, there is also one other subtle difference... if you read those gnome 2.12 release notes the ever annoying crappy cut/paste support has been fixed
[07:00] <odyssey> nice
[07:00] <mae> odyssey, i.e. now if you copy or cut something, then close that app, the clipboard will remain persistent as opposed to relying on that application to still be open for the paste data
[07:00] <Xolev> Yuusou: I have no idea...<-- Velox
[07:00] <durt> why doesnt gsynaptics have any effect?
[07:00] <WeirdAl> One more go? Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[07:00] <mae> odyssey, not sure :) i just installed it so i haven't had much time to play yet
[07:01] <Xolev> WeirdAl: Apparently its trying to mount at a non-existant drive/partition.
[07:02] <WeirdAl> It was working last night :/
[07:02] <Evil_Taco> Hi I installed LAME and can't find it =\
[07:02] <WeirdAl> I haven't changed anything, apart from last night I did an update
[07:03] <Evil_Taco> Does anyone know where to find LAME after installation through Sytapic manager/
[07:03] <Evil_Taco> *?
[07:03] <Xolev> Evil_Taco: I don't know where LAME is installed, but XMMS and amaroK seem to work fine.
[07:04] <WeirdAl> Xolev: If I start in recovery mode it tells me to append a correct "root=
[07:04] <WeirdAl> "
[07:05] <Evil_Taco> can I convert to MP3 with either?
[07:05] <Xolev> My root is root=(hd0,0)
[07:05] <WeirdAl> Could last night's update have affected anything?
[07:05] <nerdy2> WeirdAl: have you tried booting LinuxOLD ?
[07:06] <mae> breezy is still fairly broken odyssey i would stick with hoary for a bit longer if you don't want any nasty surprises
[07:06] <NoUse> Evil_Taco (in a terminal) which lame
[07:06] <thrice`> breezy isn't frozen is it?
[07:06] <mae> not even close
[07:06] <odyssey> mae, thats part of the fun. besides i think i will stick
[07:07] <mae> i mean, they aren't adding wildly new unstable features anymore
[07:07] <thrice`> gnome will go in right?
[07:07] <WeirdAl> Can anyone point me to a really tiny bash shell that I can put on CD and boot?
[07:07] <Burgundavia> thrice`, yes
[07:07] <odyssey> isnt it being released in september?
[07:07] <WeirdAl> This connection sucks bad
[07:07] <durt> ive managed to get breezy working fairly decently
[07:07] <Burgundavia> odyssey, Oct 13 for Breezy, Sept 7 for gnome 2.12
[07:07] <mae> durt, you have any problems with sound juicer crashing?
[07:08] <WeirdAl> All I need to do is browse the file system.
[07:08] <WeirdAl> Is there anything smaller than DSL?
[07:08] <Karol_18> ver ircchat.terra.cl 7000
[07:08] <Evil_Taco> Okay NoUse, I get a list of commands.
[07:09] <durt> mae: dont use that, but ive had problems with lots of things crashing that i think just need configuring
[07:09] <NoUse> Evil_Taco you should just get one, most likely '/usr/bin/lame'
[07:09] <Evil_Taco> yeah
[07:09] <Evil_Taco> Okay
[07:09] <Evil_Taco> I just typed lame
[07:10] <Xinex> Does anyone know of a command to automatically reconfigure xorg?
[07:11] <Xolev> Xinex: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg requires some user input, but is easy.
[07:11] <Evil_Taco> okay...when I run /usr/bin/lame I get a list of commands, just like when I ran lame in the terminal =\
[07:11] <Xolev> Were you looking for a lame gui?
[07:11] <Evil_Taco> uh is there one? if not can someone teach me how to use this?
[07:12] <WeirdAl> I'm gonna have to reinstall when I get home aren't I?
[07:12] <Xinex> thank Xolev
[07:12] <knowledge_> so it's official...you can't simply copy a "home" directory into a fresh install...it just doesn't work
[07:12] <Xinex> but I don't know the video card o r some of the things I need to input
[07:13] <Xolev> Xinex: I've found it autodetects for most
[07:13] <Xinex> already tried ^_^
[07:13] <NoUse> Evil_Taco are you just trying to rip CDs?
[07:13] <WeirdAl> Xolev: is there any chance I could have managed to get a corrupt kernel update?
[07:14] <WeirdAl> Xolev: and is there a way I can replace it without having to get a live boot CD of any form?
[07:14] <landotter> knowledge_, you can copy but you need to change ownership and uid on everything. ;)
[07:14] <knowledge_> landotter: yeah, I found that out the hard way, and a few formats and reinstalls later...the hard drive crashed...
[07:14] <Evil_Taco> I'm trying to rip my CDs to MP3. But the only options are WAV OGG and FLAC...
[07:14] <odyssey> Evil_Taco, get grip and make it use lame
[07:14] <Evil_Taco> and a friend said to use LAME to convert. =\
[07:15] <Xolev> knowledge_: Which you can do with chown -R newuser:newgroup /home/foo
[07:15] <Evil_Taco> apt-get install grip ?
[07:15] <odyssey> probably
[07:15] <NoUse> Evil_Taco yes
[07:15] <landotter> knowledge_, if it makes you feel any better, my Maxtor went titsup a week ago. Unrecoverable. :P
[07:15] <knowledge_> Xolev: what do you mean? that's all I had to type?!
[07:15] <Evil_Taco> thank you guys so much :D
[07:15] <Evil_Taco> deeply appreciated.
[07:15] <Xolev> Evil_Taco: LAME is a MP3 codec, go with what odyssey said and use grip to convert.
[07:15] <knowledge_> landotter: mann, I don't think there's a decent company for hd's anymore
[07:16] <Xolev> knowledge_: to change ownership, yes.
[07:16] <brandome> USB HD wont mount- any suggestions??
[07:16] <landotter> I'm just gonna run the Maxtor diagnostic a couple times per year.
[07:16] <brandome> it usally mounts on boot up- but not this time
[07:17] <landotter> knowledge_, if ya like gui stuff, emelfm is pretty nice for changing uid and permissions on huge groups of files. :)
[07:17] <Evil_Taco> Sorry I don't mean to be a pest...
[07:17] <Evil_Taco> but grip is now installed, how do I get LAME to work with it?
[07:17] <WeirdAl> Evil_Taco: guess you can't help what you are
[07:17] <WeirdAl> hah joking:)
[07:17] <brandome> me neither- any one got any ideas for me?
[07:18] <knowledge_> landotter: yeah, it's not that I don't like command, it's just that I suck at it...I'm the kind that would copy and paste what Xolev  wrote and expect it to work without any effort
[07:18] <durt> so, which is a better video format: Avi or Mpeg?
[07:18] <knowledge_> I'm still recovering from using windows for so many years
[07:18] <Evil_Taco> sorry
[07:18] <Evil_Taco> stupid me XD
[07:18] <odyssey> durt, they are completely different you cant compare them
[07:18] <Evil_Taco> Found it sorry!
[07:18] <brandome> USB HD- anyone?
[07:18] <zcat[1] >   wine: Depends: libwine (= 0.0.20050310-1.1) but 0.0.20050628-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[07:18] <Xinex> mpeg you can stream, avi you can't
[07:19] <zcat[1] > :-(
[07:19] <landotter> knowledge_, there's probably a 12 step group in your area <g>
[07:19] <knowledge_> lol
[07:19] <penny> hello
[07:19] <Xolev> knowledge_: On Linux, everything takes a bit more tweaking, but once it works, its normally rock-solid. No more bluescreens for moi.
[07:19] <WeirdAl> Guess I'll spend all night getting a 49MB file
[07:19] <knowledge_> you need a 34 step to recover from windows
[07:19] <Xinex> heh
[07:19] <zcat[1] > kids just got a game out of the library.. I guess they're gonna have to wait
[07:19] <penny> s/bluescreen/redscreen/g
[07:20] <zcat[1] > or I have to throw an old machine together and toss windows on it..
[07:20] <Madpilot> Xolev: there's a BSOD screensaver in with Xscreensaver in Ubuntu, if you miss it! ;)
[07:20] <Xinex> tweaking my ass, I've never been able to config linux to work
[07:20] <landotter> I agree with Xolev, even compared to more automagic distros like Mandrake and Suse, it seems Ubuntu doesn't break as easily once set up. Probably a very subjective thing. :P
[07:20] <bmecoli> that screensaver owns
[07:20] <Xolev> Madpilot: Dear lord! BSODs will kill us all!
[07:20] <odyssey> zcat[1] , its giving you that because you have more than one repo with wine it in.
[07:20] <bmecoli> it's fun to watch OSes go to shit
[07:20] <Evil_Taco> uh for my cd burner drive what do I put for CDROM DEVICE ?
[07:21] <landotter> bmecoli, I like that one and Bouncing Cows. LOL
[07:21] <bmecoli> hehe bouncing cows
[07:21] <NoUse> Evil_Taco the default should work
[07:21] <Xinex> <3 bouncing cows
[07:21] <zcat[1] > I thought apt was supposed to be smart and figure out a set of dependencies that work
[07:21] <bmecoli> I'm running on crap hardware, so it's choppy as all get out
[07:21] <Evil_Taco> for my cd burner? its set for my cd player, I have 2 different drives
[07:21] <Madpilot> the fireworks screensaver is cool - only one with sound effects that I know of...
[07:21] <Xolev> Evil_Taco: /mnt/cdrom0 is my default cdrom drive, not sure about your box though.
[07:21] <Evil_Taco> gotcha, I i got
[07:21] <Evil_Taco> it
[07:22] <zcat[1] > /media/cdrom0 -- what distro is /mnt/cdrom0 ?
[07:22] <landotter> bmecoli, my onboard loved openGL stuff once I bumped the color depth down to 16 from 24.
[07:22] <odyssey> zcat[1] , remove a repo that has the duplicate and it will install
[07:22] <vitriol> is there a gnome applet to show cpu temp?
[07:22] <brandome> USB hard drive not mounting
[07:22] <linukso> Hi! Trying to get a grip on bluetooth in ubuntu, I can connect to my phone, but I cant browse it with nautilus, and the limit for gnome-obex-send is 3 meg. Is this the way it should be?
[07:22] <fr500> linukso, afaik now all phones are browseable
[07:23] <Xolev> zcat[1] : My bad :P
[07:23] <Kuma> Can someone help me, when I try and install E17 I get this error: enlightenment:
[07:23] <Kuma> Package enlightenment has no available version, but exists in the database.
[07:23] <Kuma> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list
[07:23] <penny> virus is happy
[07:23] <linukso> fr500: ah, so it's not a bug in nautilus or gnome-bluetooth-utils when I can't open bluetooth:/// ?
[07:23] <zcat[1] > most linux's its /mnt .. ubuntu uses /media for removable drives.
[07:23] <fr500> Kuma, in the forums, there is a thread with a repository
[07:23] <Xolev> I've got a pounding headache right now, and thinking is running at below normal.
[07:23] <dennis__> Anyone here use myspace?
[07:23] <dennis__> Is it down for you?
[07:23] <Evil_Taco> how do I set were the files are ripped to?
[07:23] <landotter> Kuma, which version of Ubuntu? I had to compile it for Warty.
[07:23] <dennis__> Or the login part that is
[07:23] <Xinex> myspace gross
[07:23] <fr500> linukso, i have never been able to do that with my T616
[07:24] <Kuma> landotter: 5.6 I think
[07:24] <zcat[1] > pain too; I was using /media for all my media (movies and music) so I had to make it something different..
[07:24] <knowledge_> landotter: see what I was doing was gftp'ing the files from the desktop to the laptop, but I ran gftp as root in order to be able to move the files...and from there it went ape sh!t
[07:24] <Xinex> crap, I don't know which xserver driver to use
[07:24] <landotter> Kuma, search the forums as mentioned. ubuntuforums.org
[07:24] <linukso> fr500: ok, thanks. But do you have a limit on file tranfer to the phone?
[07:24] <Kuma> landotter, thanks
[07:25] <fr500> linukso, my phone has real little memory so noway to test
[07:25] <brandome> says my drive doesnt exist
[07:25] <landotter> knowledge_, live and learn. :P Been there. :D
[07:25] <fr500> linukso, what phone
[07:25] <linukso> fr500: Siemens M75
[07:25] <knowledge_> yeah...live and learn
[07:25] <fr500> never seen it
[07:25] <fr500> sorry
[07:26] <Xinex> anyone know what vid card an old p2 compaq would use by default?
[07:26] <fr500> Xinex, when nothing works i do vesafb
[07:26] <Evil_Taco> Does anyone know how to set where the MP3s are ripped to in Grip?
[07:26] <Xinex> ok
[07:26] <HrdwrBoB> Xinex: something horrible
[07:26] <Belutz> linukso: does Siemens M75 already out?
[07:26] <Xinex> HrdwrBoB, agreed
[07:26] <fr500> i think that is the name Xinex, maybe it's just vesa
[07:27] <linukso> Belutz: Its been out for a while..
[07:27] <Xinex> it's an old pc I'm turning into a home file server
[07:27] <Belutz> linukso: ic, what about S75 ?
[07:27] <fr500> Xinex, what do u need the GUI for?
[07:27] <Belutz> linukso: i'm kind of siemens mania hahaha
[07:28] <phlaegel> I've got an interesting problem with booting recent breezy kernels... it complains of a missing volume group and drops me to a shell, but I'm not using lvm. Any takers?
[07:28] <adriyel> yeah, don't use beta software
[07:28] <linukso> Belutz: Don't know 'bout that... :( sorry. But the M75 is nice, got a mmc reader, so I can stick 512 mb of ram in it :D
[07:28] <phlaegel> adriyel: wow. thanks.
[07:28] <adriyel> sorry, I was feeling callous
[07:28] <adriyel> in all seriousness
[07:29] <Belutz> linukso: so, the M75 has a lot of feature now... thx for the info linukso :)
[07:29] <adriyel> no lvm, complains of a volume group...
[07:29] <adriyel> have you google'd it?
[07:29] <bz0b> hey
[07:30] <adriyel> additionally, what kernel?
[07:30] <phlaegel> yeah... I found a post on the forums about something similar, but no solutions, and he *was* using lvm...
[07:30] <bz0b> does anyone know how to spoof their mac of their wireless card
[07:30] <Xinex> fr500: because I don't know how to use the command line
[07:30] <Evil_Taco> Where are the mp3s ripped to by default in Grip?
[07:30] <fr500> Xinex, what do u need for a fileserver? A gui wont work too well on that pc
[07:30] <adriyel> maybe lvm is broken?
[07:30] <zcat[1] > iwconfig the mac address I think..
[07:30] <adriyel> can you disable the module? is it even a module?
[07:31] <Xinex> what do you mean, fr500?
[07:31] <phlaegel> adriyel: any kernel after 2.6.12-6.6
[07:31] <fr500> Xinex, it will be unbearably slow
[07:31] <Xinex> I don't care
[07:31] <fr500> well
[07:31] <phlaegel> adriyel: the volume group it complains about is crazy, too. "301"
[07:31] <Xinex> I just need the internet to go fine
[07:32] <adriyel> are you using i386?
[07:32] <phlaegel> 686
[07:32] <adriyel> the kernel is 686, or is your machine 686?
[07:32] <fr500> Xinex, well, it will still be very slow, you will see it once you get it working
[07:32] <Xinex> and this comp ran win98 fine, fr500
[07:32] <phlaegel> both
[07:32] <adriyel> did you do the recompile yourself?
[07:32] <landotter-away> Evil_Taco, wherever you specify in the setting. ;)
[07:32] <phlaegel> no
[07:32] <phlaegel> stock kernel
[07:32] <adriyel> I wasn't aware that breezy had a stock 686
[07:32] <fr500> Xinex, get a lightweight window manager like XFCE4 or fluxbox
[07:32] <landotter-away> Evil_Taco, do give ripperX a try too, it does vbr encoding rather nicely. :)
[07:32] <phlaegel> linux-686...
[07:33] <Xinex> I know, fr500
[07:33] <Xinex> but I need to get this working first
[07:33] <adriyel> phlaegel, the default/standard for hoary is i386
[07:33] <bmecoli> YES I DID IT!
[07:33] <adriyel> is this some sort of change I've missed here?
[07:33] <bmecoli> I compiled my first program in Lnux!
[07:33] <Evil_Taco> I don't remember specifying it though, and I will :)
[07:33] <bmecoli> *linux
[07:33] <phlaegel> adriyel: on the cd, sure. but the athlon and p4 kernels are online, and in main.
[07:33] <bz0b> bmecoli, good job :-
[07:33] <bz0b> :-)
[07:33] <Xinex> congrats bmecoli, you're really a programmer now
[07:33] <zcat[1] > ./configure && make && make install  - yawn..
[07:34] <Xinex> you can't spell
[07:34] <fr500> Xinex, did u try vesafb in the dri section of xorg.conf file?
[07:34] <cafuego> zcat[1] : wrong
[07:34] <landotter> Evil_Taco, grip's bit hard to er, come to grips with lol, theres a config tab for it.
[07:34] <Xinex> not yet, fr500
[07:34] <bz0b> zcat[1] , hey hey hey, don't dis on people
[07:34] <fr500> ok
[07:34] <bmecoli> unfortunatly... it didn't compile X support... I well need the X dev files for that
[07:34] <bz0b> zcat[1] , i guarentee you had a problem the first time you tried
[07:34] <Xinex> I need to know what xorg server manager to use first
[07:34] <cafuego> zcat[1] : You just added stuff in /usr that the package system doesn't know about.
[07:34] <zcat[1] > 99% of the time that works :)
[07:34] <DjKritical> zcat[1] : yeah what bz0b said!
[07:34] <adriyel> phlaegel, wasn't aware of this, interesting. so the 686 kernels are optimized individually for athlon and p4...interesting
[07:34] <cafuego> zcat[1] : Just because it works doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
[07:34] <zcat[1] > hehe.. apt-get build-essential helps too..
[07:34] <adriyel> (I have an athlon3500, irrelevant to me)
[07:34] <phlaegel> adriyel: 686 is for p4, k7 for athlon, etc
[07:35] <Xinex> I need to know what xorg server module to use first, fr500
[07:35] <phlaegel> adriyel: and k8 for you :-)
[07:35] <adriyel> Hoary 64bit here
[07:35] <cafuego> Either use --prefix=/usr/local or run checkinstall.
[07:35] <adriyel> heh, yes.
[07:35] <adriyel> my Athlon3500 is a Venice, so it has SSE3
[07:35] <penny> k8 is for dummy
[07:35] <fr500> Xinex, i'm pretty sure it's called vesafb
[07:35] <zcat[1] > I can't even remember the first time I tried to compile something..
[07:35] <adriyel> anything optimized for a P4, I can run :)
[07:35] <cafuego> k8 isn't available in the i386 repositories.
[07:35] <phlaegel> cafuego: correct
[07:35] <adriyel> penny, wow nice inflammatory comment
[07:35] <zcat[1] > .. I do remember trying to compile the kernel on a 286 with 4M ram..
[07:35] <Evil_Taco> yeah I've been playing around the config tabs and can't find anything about it XD
[07:36] <Xinex> not driver, fr500, module
[07:36] <Xinex> dri?
[07:36] <fr500> i know, try modprobe vesafb
[07:36] <zcat[1] > .. I gave up after three days
[07:36] <fr500> or vesa
[07:36] <Xinex> I can't
[07:36] <phlaegel> jbailey: ping
[07:36] <cafuego> adriyel: So can I; there are heaps of P4's without SSE3.
[07:36] <bz0b> zcat[1] , winners never quit and quiiters never win!
[07:36] <fr500> Xinex, in that section try the same, it's either vesafb or vesa
[07:36] <adriyel> cafuego, indeed. but I can run Mac OS x86 on this thing, with rosetta with full acceleration
[07:37] <adriyel> which I've done
[07:37] <adriyel> which was a waste of time
[07:37] <penny> I wish ... P4+3dnow
[07:37] <Xinex> only vbe in the list, fr500
[07:37] <cafuego> adriyel: I run it on the Macs, much nicer.
[07:37] <fr500> hmmm
[07:37] <zcat[1] > that wasn't three days of trying, that was one config and three days of compiling.
[07:37] <fr500> weird, i could swear there was
[07:37] <adriyel> cafuego, only until the consumer intel macs come out
[07:37] <zcat[1] > it built a little faster with 8M of memory.
[07:37] <adriyel> penny, you wish P4 + HyperTransport
[07:37] <adriyel> fool. :P
[07:37] <cafuego> adriyel: That's YEARS away, though. '07 innit?
[07:38] <adriyel> nah, 06
[07:38] <penny> adriyel, HT = useless
[07:38] <penny> adriyel, HT < dual-core
[07:38] <cafuego> adriyel: Why would you prefer a P4 over an Athlon64? They cost more and do less. Marketing slaves :-P
[07:38] <adriyel> LOL, penny, thats why my AMD 3500 gets 6.7 gb/sec with its memory, and the fastest intel with DDR2 only gets 5 gigabyte/sec?
[07:38] <Xinex> fr500: PM?
[07:38] <fr500> Xinex, if i was on linux now, i could help more
[07:38] <fr500> Xinex, i was gaming
[07:39] <adriyel> penny, Athlon X2's have dual core AND hypertransport.
[07:39] <Xinex> ah
[07:39] <fr500> Xinex, ok
[07:39] <fr500> PM
[07:39] <HrdwrBoB> adriyel: that's primarily because the amd64's memory controller is on the cpu
[07:39] <mae> what package might i need for mono to make this error dissapear when attempting to compile a rudimentary program in monodevelop: /home/mae/test.cs(9) error CS0246: Cannot find type 'Window'
[07:39] <adriyel> HrdwrBoB, thanks, I know that
[07:39] <zcat[1] > ohhhh, wine does install when I get rid of all the backports repos..
[07:39] <adriyel> and what do you think that is attributed to HrdwrBoB? maybe....hypertransport?
[07:39] <bmecoli> yum
[07:39] <HrdwrBoB> ...
[07:39] <adriyel> the cache to cache speeds on the pentium D SUCK
[07:40] <HrdwrBoB> it's attributed to the fact that they put the memory controller on die
[07:40] <cafuego> mae: Not that i know C#, but in C that would imply a missing include.
[07:40] <penny> adriyel, but mmu-binding ...
[07:40] <penny> adriyel, bad design
[07:40] <HrdwrBoB> but yes, it's good
[07:40] <adriyel> HrdwrBoB, yes, but hypertransport was an aspect of the whole design concept, allowing for interconnected devices to have higher bandwidth
[07:40] <penny> adriyel, no chose is not good
[07:40] <cafuego> When I was buying a USB hub at the local pc shop last week, this guy was on the mobile to a colleague, jumping up and down to get him to check whether a Celeron D had sse3.
[07:41] <adriyel> memory to cache for example
[07:41] <HrdwrBoB> hahahah cafuego
[07:41] <adriyel> sure, on die is nice
[07:41] <cafuego> I didn't have the heard to tell him I'd already has OSx86 running in vmware for days ;-)
[07:41] <adriyel> but hypertransport affects this
[07:41] <HrdwrBoB> heh
[07:41] <cafuego> s/heard/heart/
[07:41] <HrdwrBoB> adriyel: is english your first language?
[07:41] <adriyel> on die is the main reason for the memory performance, yes, but hypertransport enables the whole machine to better be able to communicate with the cache/mem
[07:41] <penny> but ... how to upgrade?
[07:41] <HrdwrBoB> affect is not the right word
[07:42] <HrdwrBoB> enables, allows, yes
[07:42] <adriyel> HrdwrBoB, I just got done working a 12 hour shift, and its 1:42 am in the morning, hows your english under similar conditions?
[07:42] <cafuego> penny: You cannoy upgrade your P4 to an AMD64 without also buying a new mainboard (and possibly ram)
[07:42] <zcat[1] > effects?
[07:42] <HrdwrBoB> I tend to go to bed :)
[07:42] <adriyel> cafuego, duh. :P
[07:42] <adriyel> HrdwrBoB, some of us have responsibilities, thanks.
[07:43] <penny> so do this : amd -> intel
[07:43] <adriyel> ...
[07:43] <cafuego> penny: that would be a downgrade, not an upgrade.
[07:43] <adriyel> why should I switch to intel? they cost more, suck down more power, perform nowhere near as well
[07:43] <adriyel> generate more heat
[07:43] <penny> not always
[07:43] <xerath> hey
[07:43] <adriyel> heat/cost/power are non negotiable
[07:43] <HrdwrBoB> the dual core pentiums are cheap
[07:43] <adriyel> they are a given
[07:43] <cafuego> penny: No, sometimes they cost less and perform less well.
[07:43] <HrdwrBoB> they suck, but they are cheap
[07:43] <penny> not really
[07:44] <adriyel> yes, and the pentium D's perform like crap for what I'd want them for too
[07:44] <adriyel> like I am going to downgrade from my athlon 3500 to a 2.8ghz processor
[07:44] <HrdwrBoB> yes, they suck :)
[07:44] <HrdwrBoB> also, xeons are terrible.
[07:44] <cafuego> penny: yes, they do. Sorry if you wasted your money on one, but that's not our fault, now is it?
[07:44] <HrdwrBoB> opterons >> xeons
[07:44] <adriyel> penny, yes really. I know how D's perform on the apps I use, I'll fucking PASS ok?
[07:44] <bmecoli> ok
[07:44] <adriyel> opterons pwn xeon's.
[07:45] <penny> just wait a moment
[07:45] <cafuego> bmecoli: how about 'dosbox' ?
[07:45] <titanium> nerd war
[07:45] <bmecoli> now, I'm wondering... /mnt/ has nothing in it... whyyyy?
[07:45] <bmecoli> I want to get to my NTFS partition
[07:45] <cafuego> .. just let me find this Intel sponsored research that says a 3.6GHz HT Xeon is faster then an AthlonXP 2000+ ...
[07:45] <titanium> bmecoli: mkdir /mnt/helloworld
[07:45] <penny> p-m+3dnow+64bit+quad-core+high-freq
[07:45] <adriyel> penny, thats not a real processor fool
[07:45] <adriyel> ok, fine, wanna do some penis wagging?
[07:45] <bmecoli> titanuim: haha funny
[07:46] <adriyel> my athlon3500 is running at a front side bus of 300mhz, mem speed of 600mhz
[07:46] <cafuego> bmecoli: You can just mount it (read-only) in Linux.
[07:46] <bmecoli> ok, how do I go about viewing my pother NTFS formatted HD?
[07:46] <penny> +low-price+high-performence
[07:46] <orlok> I'm running an AMD64 3400+
[07:46] <orlok> at 1Ghz
[07:46] <adriyel> its got a core speed of around 2.6ghz
[07:46] <zcat[1] > my /mnt has nothing in it either :(
[07:46] <bmecoli> cafuego, how do you mount drives? ;/
[07:46] <adriyel> it's overclocked heavily
[07:46] <cafuego> !ntfs
[07:46] <bimberi> !mountwindows
[07:46] <ubotu> from memory, mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[07:46] <penny> maybe p-m 5g
[07:46] <cafuego> !tell bmecoli -about ntfs
[07:46] <zcat[1] >  /media!!
[07:47] <adriyel> my chip is runs @ 110 degrees fahrenheit, FULL LOAD, how many eggs is your prescott frying...n00b.
[07:47] <bmecoli> bimberi, thank you
[07:47] <cafuego> bmecoli: That script should see you sorted.
[07:47] <penny> 0.45nm
[07:47] <bimberi> bmecoli: yw :)
[07:47] <cafuego> adriyel: How much is that in sane units?
[07:47] <adriyel> penny, you're speaking of future tech
[07:47] <adriyel> cafuego, heh, you mean centigrade?
[07:47] <cafuego> adriyel: Kelvin will do
[07:47] <adriyel> a chemist huh?
[07:47] <adriyel>  *grins*
[07:47] <titanium> i love how penny is spitting out random factoids from a tech pdf he has open in the background
[07:48] <penny> no
[07:48] <cafuego> adriyel: Nah, not really (really not)
[07:48] <adriyel> 316.5 kelvin
[07:48] <titanium> 67 MILLION TRANSISTORS GUYS!!!! THERE I WIN THE ARGUMENT
[07:48] <sjg> Uhg, cant sleep :(
[07:48] <orlok> cat /proc/cpufreq
[07:48] <orlok>           minimum CPU frequency  -  maximum CPU frequency  -  policy
[07:48] <orlok> CPU  0      1000000 kHz ( 41 %)  -    2400000 kHz (100 %)  -  userspace
[07:48] <cafuego> titanium: Haha, I have way more brain cells than that. loser.
[07:48] <penny> I think ... intel is the bset
[07:48] <bmecoli> hey, where does wget save to??
[07:48] <adriyel> penny, you're not making any valid points
[07:48] <cafuego> bmecoli: `pwd`
[07:48] <Xinex> is there a way to "emulate" the install process with xorg and have it autodetect and reconfig?
[07:48] <penny> in the past and in the future
[07:49] <bmecoli> thanks again
[07:49] <sjg> penny, If youre paying for it, buy what you want, But dont expect anyone else to agree with you.
[07:49] <titanium> cafuego: this mobo supports upgraeds u stupid noob i can get more and play css at 309538fps u dum fukk.... ur ded
[07:49] <zcat[1] > bmecoli: '.'
[07:49] <orlok> ok.
[07:49] <crimsun_> Xinex, you can use: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:49] <orlok> OSX and Samba are driving me batshit
[07:49] <cafuego> Xinex: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:49] <adriyel> titanium, wtf?
[07:49] <penny> haha, let we see
[07:49] <Xinex> cafuego and crimsun_: tried, I don't know the vid card or what server module to use
[07:50] <durt> thats a lot of fps
[07:50] <bmecoli> you mean the same directory that console is in??
[07:50] <cafuego> titanium: l0l0lz! my eyes have aol dsl!! way leeter!
[07:50] <penny> in 90s... amd = ?
[07:50] <adriyel> wtf?
[07:50] <cafuego> Xinex: What does 'lspci' say about vga?
[07:50] <Xinex> dunno
[07:50] <adriyel> penny, do you have reality issues?
[07:50] <Xinex> I'm trying to get someone to tell me what server module to use, cafuego
[07:50] <zcat[1] > lspci | grep -i vga
[07:50] <penny> hehe
[07:50] <titanium> cafuego: ur eyes r noobs u dont no nething i have 4 atkins videocarbs in slp agi u cant touch this. ur owned
[07:50] <cafuego> Xinex: maybe you could check, say by running 'lspci'?
[07:50] <sjg> God penny, your english is horrible too.
[07:51] <penny> (silly)
[07:51] <adriyel> sjg, lol.
[07:51] <cafuego> titanium: you win ;-)
[07:51] <Xinex> I'm in the graphical configurator cafuego
[07:51] <cafuego> Xinex: So?
[07:51] <adriyel> sjg he's an Intel zealot. its amusing :)
[07:51] <cafuego> Xinex: alt-F2; login, lspci
[07:51] <sjg> adriyel, obviously
[07:51] <titanium> cafuego: thank god thats over im going to sleep >:(
[07:51] <cafuego> titanium: <heh> g'night :-)
[07:51] <adriyel> sjg, lol, you've been watching?
[07:51] <sjg> adriyel, Cannot sleep :(
[07:51] <penny> nooooo
[07:52] <adriyel> fancy that. that sucks
[07:52] <adriyel> I used to have insomnia, my woman changed that
[07:52] <cafuego> bmecoli: ^^ yes
[07:52] <sjg> lol
[07:52] <Xinex> haha cafuego: matrox graphics
[07:52] <adriyel> matrox parhelia? :P
[07:52] <ineedhelpbad> can some1 help me
[07:53] <ineedhelpbad> when i install ubuntu it installs but when it starts up my screen stays blank
[07:53] <ineedhelpbad> i have a dell laptop
[07:53] <Xinex> now what, cafuego?
[07:53] <bmecoli> hmm, I found a typo in gnome-console (or something else)
[07:53] <bmecoli> Tou should run this program as root or using sudo
[07:53] <cafuego> Xinex: use the 'mga' driver.
[07:53] <bmecoli> Tou?
[07:53] <bmecoli> ;p
[07:53] <Xinex> ok
[07:53] <Xinex> and what server module?
[07:53] <ineedhelpbad> can some1 pm me and help me
[07:53] <cafuego> Xinex: 'mga'
[07:54] <ineedhelpbad> ?
[07:54] <Evil_Taco> ^_^' Now I feel like a moron.
[07:54] <penny> me too
[07:55] <cafuego> as long as we're clear on tha
[07:55] <Xinex> whoa
[07:55] <cafuego> t
[07:55] <Xinex> coincidence
[07:55] <ineedhelpbad> my video card is a intel 915GM/GMS,910GML express chipset
[07:55] <bmecoli> NTFS drives will be mounted read-only! <-- :(
[07:55] <cafuego> bmecoli: yes.
[07:55] <penny> when I prefer amd,you prefer intel
[07:55] <bmecoli> this can be changed right?
[07:55] <cafuego> bmecoli: Linuyx cannot write to NTFS. Microsoft won't release the specs, so a driver can't be easily written.
[07:56] <penny> when I prefer amd, you prefer intel
[07:56] <bmecoli> well, fuck
[07:56] <cafuego> bmecoli: You can FORCE it to mount read-write, but that WILL destroy data.
[07:56] <Xolev> bmecoli: Writing to NTFS drives has a tendency to corrupt them.
[07:56] <bmecoli> I see
[07:56] <ineedhelpbad> CAN SOME1 REPLY TO ME
[07:56] <adriyel> wow
[07:56] <bmecoli> thank you for the info
[07:56] <adriyel> how do you unblock a user in gaim?
[07:56] <penny> I prefer intel now... you prefer amd
[07:56] <cafuego> ineedhelpbad: CAN YOU SWITCH OFF CAPSLOCK AND JUST ASK THE QUESTION ON THE CHANNEL?
[07:56] <ineedhelpbad> i did
[07:56] <ineedhelpbad> ok
[07:56] <cafuego> bmecoli: You can make windows read/write ext2 and ext3, though.
[07:56] <ineedhelpbad> here it is
[07:57] <ineedhelpbad> i installed ubuntu and i cant get the display workin
[07:57] <penny> brb
[07:57] <ineedhelpbad> its installs everyhign then goes to boot up and then nohtin
[07:57] <ineedhelpbad> blank screen
[07:57] <ineedhelpbad> does it with the live cd too
[07:57] <ineedhelpbad> my video card is a intel 915GM/GMS,910GML express chipset
[07:57] <ineedhelpbad> i have a dell laptop
[07:57] <Xinex> cafuego: no go
[07:58] <Xinex> there is no mga server module
[07:58] <cafuego> Xinex: Any specific errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[07:58] <Xinex> yes
[07:58] <ineedhelpbad> are u talkin to me
[07:58] <bmecoli> cafuego, that's nice and all, but I have no windows OSes installed :)
[07:58] <ineedhelpbad> and i dont know nothin aobut linux really
[07:58] <ineedhelpbad> so can some1 explain to me plz
[07:58] <ineedhelpbad> or can i fix it at all
[07:58] <bmecoli> a solution would be to repartition the disk back to FAT
[07:58] <Xinex> change your name first ineedhelpbad
[07:59] <cafuego> bmecoli: <heh>
[07:59] <Tech-N9ne> there
[07:59] <Tech-N9ne> lol
[07:59] <cafuego> bmecoli: Then you may as well go to ext3 anyway; just back up that data first
[08:00] <Xinex> cafuego: skipping /usr/x1R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a :m_debug_clip.o :no symbols found
[08:00] <bmecoli> I "could" copy all the NTFS files to /home/*myuser name*/backup/ and change the partition :)
[08:00] <Alfred1881> Alfred1881 hey all , in need to convert mp3 files to a format , that i can play on a CDplayer after burning a disc
[08:00] <Tech-N9ne> can i get help now
[08:00] <kevin06> Does anyone here have Mupen running sucessfully on Ubuntu?
[08:01] <_frank> Alfred1881: burn an audio cd
[08:01] <Madpilot> Alfred1881: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AudioCDCreation
[08:02] <Evil_Taco> Darn X(
[08:02] <Evil_Taco> I can't find out how to configure where Grip rips files to XD
[08:02] <bmecoli> sw33t!
[08:02] <bmecoli> it is seen!
[08:02] <Richie32> hi
[08:03] <odyssey> mae, dam this is nice
[08:03] <bmecoli> hello
[08:03] <Richie32> need some help please
[08:03] <bmecoli> trust me, you will get it ;)
[08:03] <Richie32> area51@mark:~/Desktop$ winedbg eMule.exe
[08:03] <Richie32> WineDbg starting on pid 0xf
[08:03] <Richie32> Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels
[08:03] <Richie32> to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file
[08:03] <Richie32> In 32 bit mode.
[08:03] <Richie32> 0x77b7539e: jmp 0x77b7538d
[08:03] <Madpilot> Evil_Taco: SoundJuicer goes to /Music by default (I think) but it's configurable
[08:03] <Richie32> Wine-dbg>
[08:03] <Madpilot> !tell Richie32 about pastebin
[08:03] <Richie32> sorry the flood
[08:03] <crimsun_> Richie32, try amule
[08:03] <Evil_Taco> yeah but I'm using Grip XD
[08:04] <Evil_Taco> I have looked and just can;t find it XD
[08:04] <Richie32> i can't use amule... i just have national downloads...i can't downloading international files :/
[08:04] <sataere> Hey everyone
[08:04] <Madpilot> Evil_Taco: no idea, but you could switch to SJ... ;)
[08:04] <Richie32> anyone ?
[08:05] <Evil_Taco> This is ripping to MP3 which is what I need Madpilot, but thanks :D
[08:05] <sataere> On one of my ubuntu installations, I have a submenu in gnome: Debian, where all my installed applications are listed.  On this fresh install, that same submenu is not there.  :(  I really like that menu.
[08:05] <zcat[1] > SJ does mp3
[08:05] <Madpilot> Evil_Taco: you can do that in SJ, I gather. Never bothered setting it up myself
[08:05] <sataere> Anyone know what I did wrong?
[08:05] <Richie32> guess not
[08:05] <crimsun_> Richie32, what limitation of amule prevents you?
[08:05] <Richie32> thanks
[08:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone try out enlightenment?
[08:06] <Richie32> crimsun, amule don't have an internation ip blocker
[08:06] <Evil_Taco> I looked into SoundJucier, and it only had OGG, WAV, and FLAC XD
[08:06] <Richie32> and i don't know how to make an perl script
[08:06] <Richie32> for that
[08:06] <Evil_Taco> as output XD
[08:06] <zcat[1] > install lame / liblame ?
[08:06] <crimsun_> Richie32, why would you need amule to do that? Wouldn't your ISP's routers do that?
[08:07] <sataere> BROKEN_LADDER, enlightenment is really nice looking, but not hugely functional I find.  You should try it out for yourself, and if you like it, go with it.
[08:07] <Richie32> crimsun,  nop
[08:07] <Evil_Taco> I'm using Grip with lame.
[08:07] <zcat[1] > hmm..
[08:07] <Richie32> i'm from Portugal, this is a third world answer
[08:07] <DjKritical> I can't wait to get home... Ubuntu would have finished downloading by now :D
[08:07] <crimsun_> Richie32, or are you saying that your ISP charges you additional for "international transfers"?
[08:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> sataere interesting
[08:07] <Richie32> thats it crimsun_
[08:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> i find that nothing ever really beats gnome
[08:08] <Evil_Taco> grrr what does the option create m3u files mean ? o_O
[08:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> even kde with all of its functionality and configurability, just falls short in look and feel
[08:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> playlist file?
[08:08] <Richie32> they charge me a lot if i download international
[08:08] <zcat[1] > crimsun_ most third-world countries do :(
[08:08] <zcat[1] > like NZ
[08:08] <Richie32> holland ?
[08:09] <Madpilot> zcat[1] : seriously? kind of defeats part of the purpose of the internet, doesn't it?
[08:09] <Xinex> well screw this
[08:09] <crimsun_> Richie32, another method would be to use a whois database to cull the .pt IPs, then filter them using netfilter+iptables
[08:10] <Evil_Taco> Well I found a folder called mp3 in my home/nate folder....but only 1 mp3 shows up at a time, and thats when its being ripped.
[08:10] <zcat[1] > well.. I have a 10G cap and then they slow me down to dialup speeds..
[08:10] <kevin06> Is anyone else here upset over the FCC's decision to de-regulate DSL service?
[08:10] <zcat[1] > so local traffix is preferred.
[08:10] <sataere> Does anyone know how to get that Debian menu?
[08:10] <Richie32> thats a lot to my little brain
[08:10] <String> somebody  speak spanish?
[08:10] <Xinex> I'm installing linux on a hard drive on another computer and then transferring to a different computer and xorg won't work
[08:10] <orlok> kevin06: Which country is that? :P
[08:10] <Richie32> ola eres de espana ?
[08:10] <crimsun_> String, #ubuntu-es
[08:10] <Xinex> any suggestions?
[08:10] <Richie32> :D
[08:10] <String> thank you
[08:10] <kevin06> orlok, United States
[08:10] <crimsun_> sataere, install menu and menu-xdg
[08:11] <orlok> well. not me then.
[08:11] <String> i have a question?
[08:11] <sataere> crimsun_, thank you very much :)
[08:11] <Richie32> quieres mamar en lo cullo con mi lolita cabron :P *
[08:11] <zcat[1] > hmm.. My SJ doesn't have mp3 either. curious
[08:12] <zcat[1] > I'm sure it used to!!
[08:12] <String> somebody can help me
[08:12] <crimsun_> String, have you asked in #ubuntu-es?
[08:13] <Richie32> cya
[08:13] <String> but, you can help me?
[08:13] <milksteak> zcat[1] , you in NZ on some crappy Xtra plan?
[08:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i install dr17?
[08:13] <crimsun_> String, you haven't stated your issue yet
[08:13] <Xinex> String, maybe
[08:13] <zcat[1] > it would be easier for you and us to get the answer in your native language..
[08:14] <String> i'am a prospect in GNU/linux
[08:14] <Oewyn> okay, i'm a complete linux noob, and i'm trying to install the ndiswrapper package from the CD, but the Gnome package installer isn't running (just hangs, and nothing shows up) what is the terminal command to install a package, or maybe i have to be logged on as root for it to work
[08:14] <zcat[1] > milksteak: crappy maxnet plan..
[08:14] <milksteak> heh
[08:14] <milksteak> ok
[08:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> how do i install dr17?
[08:15] <Xinex> String, what do you mean?
[08:15] <String> i use ubuntu
[08:15] <crimsun_> BROKEN_LADDER, have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476 ?
[08:15] <String> and i wanna install bmp
[08:15] <String> but i can
[08:16] <crimsun_> "bmp"? As in "beep-media-player"?
[08:16] <String> yes
[08:16] <String> right
[08:16] <crimsun_> Enable the universe repository, then install beep-media-player.
[08:16] <Madpilot> you need the Multiverse repo for beep, actually
[08:16] <Madpilot> !repos
[08:17] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:17] <Madpilot> String: see the URL just above ^^^
[08:17] <crimsun_> Madpilot, err, I certainly hope you don't, since I uploaded it...
[08:18] <bimberi> Oewyn: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[08:18] <Madpilot> crimsun_: gah, I guess I can't read tonight, it's in "Multimedia (universe)" and I read that as "Multiverse"....
[08:18] <String> so
[08:19] <Oewyn> then after it's installed, i can just do sudo ndiswrapper -i filename.ini?
[08:19] <adriyel> String, for what its worth, I've installed BMP, and its done nothing but crash
[08:19] <bimberi> Oewyn: dunno sorry.  But there is this...
[08:19] <adriyel> I use rhythmbox
[08:19] <bimberi> !ndiswrapper
[08:19] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:19] <adriyel> and totem
[08:19] <adriyel> with the gstreamer backend...
[08:19] <crimsun_> adriyel, when does it crash?
[08:19] <kevin06> Other than Mupen64, does anyone know of another linux N64 emulator?
[08:19] <adriyel> crimsun, whenever I try to play
[08:20] <adriyel> ***anything***
[08:20] <zcat[1] > w32codecs pwn!
[08:20] <crimsun_> adnans, are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[08:20] <crimsun_> adnans, sorry
[08:20] <adriyel> lol
[08:20] <crimsun_> ^^ adriyel
[08:20] <adriyel> Hoary
[08:20] <crimsun_> adriyel, are you using the default Ubuntu sound settings?
[08:20] <crimsun_> adriyel, (esound)
[08:20] <adriyel> *tilts head* I would assume so
[08:20] <Oewyn> what is the default root PW?
[08:20] <crimsun_> adriyel, did you change BMP's output plugin configuration to use esound, then?
[08:21] <adriyel> prolly not...*grins*
[08:21] <crimsun_> adriyel, that would - more than likely - explain those crashes
[08:21] <adriyel> it was using oss...SOB
[08:21] <barney_> y should i switch from debian (pure) to ubuntu - the only nice thing i see is the auto update function
[08:21] <adriyel> noob mistake, sorry.
[08:21] <zcat[1] > Oewyn: there is no root pw.. default sudo setting is that the first user gets access using own pw
[08:21] <Oewyn> okay
[08:22] <adriyel> FSCK, crimsun it worked
[08:22] <adriyel> lol, thx man
[08:22] <crimsun_> barney_, I suggest you give the Breezy Colony 3 live cd a twirl to gauge whether you should "switch"
[08:22] <Oewyn> synaptic doesn't work though :-(
[08:22] <crimsun_> adriyel, np
[08:23] <zcat[1] > odd..
[08:23] <bimberi> Oewyn: "doesn't work"?
[08:23] <_frank> crimsun is colony like a pre beta version of breezy/
[08:23] <barney_> is that the ubuntu live disc? of a differant ubuntu live disc?
[08:23] <nalioth> crimsun_: i'm really hopin breezy will work on my imac G5
[08:23] <adriyel> _frank, its just a beta
[08:23] <topyli> Oewyn: it will work when you give it your own password
[08:23] <crimsun_> _frank, the Colony images are release candidates, yes. There will be more.
[08:24] <_frank> i can wait
[08:24] <adriyel> crim, how many RC's do they need? lol.
[08:24] <crimsun_> adriyel, as many as we need.
[08:24] <adriyel> are you a member of the dev team crimsun_?
[08:24] <bimberi> :)
[08:24] <topyli> adriyel: until it's perfect :)
[08:24] <Oewyn> I run it
[08:24] <Oewyn> and nothing happens
[08:24] <crimsun_> adriyel, I'm a MOTU (wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU)
[08:24] <adriyel> perfect? no software is perfect, some gets closer than others
[08:24] <Oewyn> i assume that means it's not working
[08:25] <topyli> adriyel: true, some suck more, some less
[08:25] <crimsun_> adriyel, think of the Colony images as milestones.
[08:25] <adriyel> ahhh, a package maintainer
[08:25] <adriyel> NOT a job I'd want
[08:25] <adriyel> Windows, sucks more, guaranteed @ topyli  :)
[08:25] <bimberi> Oewyn: what if you run "gksudo synaptic" from a terminal?
[08:25] <zcat[1] > Oewyn: probably means you entered the password wrong or aren't in the admin group..
[08:26] <topyli> adriyel: that's for sure
[08:26] <crimsun_> adriyel, not much "glory" ;)
[08:26] <_frank> crimsun_: alot of people had sound problems with hoary, what will change in breezy so that things work better/
[08:26] <adriyel> audio and ALSA specialist @ crimsun_... LOL, I asked the right guy about BMP then!
[08:26] <Oewyn> well, i don't know because i logged in as the only user I created
[08:26] <Oewyn> and supposidly that has root access.
[08:26] <topyli> Oewyn: are you the first user created?
[08:26] <topyli> oh
[08:26] <zcat[1] > should have..
[08:26] <topyli> you should have administrative priviledges with your own password
[08:26] <adriyel> crimsun_ some of the most important jobs lack glory
[08:26] <crimsun_> _frank, (1) dmix is enabled for up to 9 devices by default; (2) there's a device selector in System> Preferences> Sounds
[08:27] <durt> sound is easier in breezy
[08:27] <Oewyn> I don't know, lemme try getting ndiswrapper to install and see if i can access internet via linux, that'll be easier...
[08:27] <benplaut> durt: agreed :P
[08:27] <durt> sort of
[08:27] <adriyel> I'd had no probs with sound in Hoary
[08:27] <adriyel> outside of my stupidity regarding BMP...lolz.
[08:27] <crimsun_> _frank, there are quite a few additional initscript cleanups that most people will not notice
[08:28] <crimsun_> (but they fix longstanding issues)
[08:28] <adriyel> crimsun, in the 64 bit version, are they going to fix the issue with libflash?
[08:28] <zcat[1] > ndis? hmm..
[08:28] <_frank> ok. will kubuntu be and official version in breezy/
[08:28] <adriyel> I've already spoken to several people about it
[08:28] <deFrysk> nvidia does not work anymore in breezy :(((
[08:28] <crimsun_> adriyel, libflash isn't my area, sorry
[08:28] <adriyel> deFrysk, why?
[08:28] <adriyel> crimsun_, crap, was hoping you'd know about that issue. Do you know who to contact?
[08:29] <_frank> crimsun_: and when will multiarch for amd64 and x86 coexistence be available
[08:29] <deFrysk> adriyel, a dependency conflict
[08:29] <crimsun_> _frank, yes, there will be a simultaneous Kubuntu release.
[08:29] <adriyel> _frank, I am multiarch with my amd64 install right now
[08:29] <ColonelKernel> theres a new ubuntu release coming out???
[08:29] <adriyel> ./lib32 and /lib64
[08:29] <_frank> adriyel: so you can install 32 bit packages with no tinkering/
[08:29] <crimsun_> _frank, most of the biarch was done immediately preceding Hoary's release, but it was too late to work in
[08:30] <adriyel> I am confused at the issue here....
[08:30] <deFrysk> ColonelKernel, new releases ara always in oct and april
[08:30] <ColonelKernel> thats dope
[08:30] <adriyel> _frank, flawlessly, yes. I installed doom3 half an hour ago and it works fine
[08:30] <_frank> adriyel: wow, i'll give the 64bit version a try again, then
[08:31] <adriyel> _frank, your issue might have been a fluke
[08:31] <fluffybunny_> how do I set an application as a default application (eg, I want XMMS as my default MP3 player)...
[08:31] <adriyel> _frank, the only 32/64 issue I've had, was that the libflash plugin for firefox wasn't clean, I backtraced it...had to remove it
[08:31] <_frank> adriyel: well getting flash in firefox and w32codecs to works was a pain. plus kaffeine crashed all the time, sound wasn't great
[08:32] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, klik properties of an mp3 and set the open with to your preferred player
[08:32] <adriyel> _frank, I dunno what to tell you, I haven't tinkered with any of that
[08:32] <fluffybunny_> deFrysk: I have done that, but the default still seems to me Media Player, not XMMS
[08:33] <adriyel> getting flash to work, is related to my issue
[08:33] <kaptaink> any ideas on how to share a partition with a ubuntu/windows dual boot without simply mounting it? (simply mounting it seems to freeze my system)
[08:33] <adriyel> crimsun_, can you help me with a doom3 issue?
[08:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm always trying so hard to make flash _not_ work.
[08:33] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, did you tic xmms ? in the open with tab of properties ?
[08:33] <adriyel> its sound related crimsun_
[08:34] <adriyel> lol @ broken
[08:34] <adriyel> I find it easy to disable flash
[08:34] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[08:34] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[08:34] <durt> thank you deFrysk
[08:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> it is..i was just joking
[08:34] <adriyel> mv ~/.mozilla/firefox/libflash-mozplugin.so /HELL
[08:34] <crimsun_> adriyel, if your libflash issue is related to the 32-bit layer, it's fixed in 1.0.10rc1 of ALSA. We may be able to see it in Breezy.
[08:34] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, ix xmms is not available use the add button to add xmms
[08:34] <fluffybunny_> deFrysk: I right-clicked, selected "Open with other application", and selected XMMS, if thats what you mean?
[08:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just wish i could eliminate all sound upon entering web pages.
[08:34] <adriyel> theres your solution broken :P
[08:34] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, I said properties
[08:34] <_frank> adriyel: i had to change the audio output from alsa to oss in doom3 to get it to works
[08:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> i wish i could tell a browser to NOT play sound in a flash or any other element.
[08:34] <fluffybunny_> deFrysk: woops :)
[08:34] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, properties first
[08:35] <deFrysk> fluffybunny_, ;p
[08:35] <adriyel> crimsun_, I can't get sound working in doom3. no crash, it just seems to be muted. I've checked and nothing pertinent seems muted. additionally, I've tried it with esound alsa and oss, all three don't work, suggestions?
[08:35] <fluffybunny_> thanks - it works now :)
[08:35] <deFrysk> k ;)
[08:35] <Madpilot> BROKEN_LADDER: in Opera you can - "Play Sound in Web Pages" is one of the quick-config options - just hit F12
[08:35] <crimsun_> adriyel, are you using Breezy?
[08:35] <adriyel> Hoary
[08:35] <crimsun_> adriyel, no, Hoary, correct?
[08:35] <adriyel> yes
[08:35] <adriyel> x86_64, stock kernel
[08:36] <durt> adriyel: have you tried running alsaconf?
[08:36] <adriyel> stock most everything.
[08:36] <adriyel> durt, everything else works
[08:36] <adriyel> why reconfig?
[08:36] <kaptaink> any ideas on how to share a partition with a ubuntu/windows dual boot, without simply mounting it? (simply mounting it seems to freeze my system)
[08:36] <Madpilot> Firefox isn't a *bad* browser - it's just got a ways to go to catch up to the best...
[08:36] <crimsun_> adriyel, ok, you'd need to update ALSA to see.
[08:36] <crimsun_> !tell adriyel about alsa-source
[08:36] <adriyel> crimsun_, I'll update it
[08:36] <durt> adriyel: i had the same problem with bzflag but everything else worked, alsaconf fixed it
[08:36] <zcat[1] > damn, was going so well... got the CD to install under wine, but it won't run
[08:37] <bmecoli> how do you list processes in console?
[08:37] <hardw1re> use top
[08:37] <bimberi> bmecoli: ps aux
[08:37] <bmecoli> I see
[08:38] <kaptaink> apps/ system tools/ system mon
[08:38] <hardw1re> whats the latest 2.6.x.amd64 kernel?
[08:38] <bmecoli> because xmms froze X up pretty bad
[08:38] <bmecoli> ;p
[08:38] <bimberi> er, console
[08:38] <kaptaink> oh
[08:38] <crimsun_> hardw1re, in Hoary?
[08:38] <hardw1re> yeah....
[08:38] <zcat[1] > hmmm...
[08:38] <crimsun_> 2.6.10-5-..._34.4
[08:38] <zcat[1] > too hard.
[08:39] <hardw1re> having alot of compatability issues with stuff in 10-5 and 11-1
[08:39] <_frank> can anyone think of a reason why shift and caps lock and num lock stopped working on my keyboard or a fix for that
[08:39] <bmecoli> anywho, I think I might look and see if I need any packages regarding codecs... because I need them :)
[08:39] <bmecoli> I mean... if they have any
[08:39] <bmecoli> oops
[08:39] <bimberi> !restricted
[08:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:41] <hardw1re> !kernel
[08:41] <hardw1re> :f
[08:42] <skpl> can someone tell me why it is possible to use some fonts in some programs but not in others?
[08:42] <bimberi> your own personal flood :P
[08:43] <Julian> Got a programming question for you.  Who's a coder here?
[08:43] <Julian> Anyone?
[08:43] <hardw1re> The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.12.5 <--- hmm but where from?!
[08:43] <adriyel> Julian, what you need?
[08:43] <adriyel> Julian, its been awhile since I coded, and I prolly won't be able to help you, but its worth a try
[08:43] <crimsun_> that's kernel.org. Ubuntu tracks versions differently. Hoary froze with 2.6.10+updates.
[08:43] <bimberi> hardw1re: kernel.org
[08:43] <HrdwrBoB> Julian: just ask
[08:44] <adriyel> HrdwrBoB, is right.
[08:44] <Julian> I'm trying to compile gdl-0.8.10, and some of the include files reference a header file that's not being found.
[08:44] <adriyel> unfound dependent header file
[08:44] <hardw1re> bimberi: i take it thats not in package form is it?
[08:44] <Julian> Most of the references use #include "full_path"
[08:44] <Julian> Whereas the include that's failing is #include <path_name>, as though it were an internal library.
[08:44] <bimberi> hardw1re: source code bzip iirc
[08:45] <ginger_> anyone here have problems with USB in Hoary? is this common? any simple way to deal with it?
[08:45] <crimsun_> Julian, it's quite simple to fix, actually: sudo apt-get build-dep libgdl-1-dev
[08:45] <Julian> How do I set up the environment so that those headers are found via <path_name>
[08:45] <HrdwrBoB> .win 22
[08:45] <hardw1re> ok im gonna need some guidance here....
[08:45] <Julian> OK.  I've gone that route, and I'm trying to build anjuta.
[08:45] <hardw1re> cause i've only ever used the apt-get for kernel's
[08:45] <Julian> Plenty of issues have arisen.
[08:45] <Julian> What I would give to have someone walk me through that...
[08:46] <bimberi> ubuntu's hardware identification is so good that I haven't had to compile a kernel for while
[08:46] <Julian> Why... Why...  I'd even donate to Ubuntu...
[08:46] <bimberi> :)
[08:46] <adriyel> Julian, did you see the apt-get solution?
[08:46] <crimsun_> Julian, are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[08:46] <Julian> Hoary.
[08:46] <bimberi> !kernelcompile
[08:46] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[08:46] <Julian> yeah, I saw that.
[08:46] <Phoinix> Hello.. I've just migrated from Debian to Ubuntu.. all ok. But i'm trying to recompile the kernel from the old .config tha i had in Debian ... ana ubuntu does not boot !!! I can't understand why, it just crashes in the booting sequency with no message at all. After decomperssing kernel...Done.  The kernel was compiled using make && make modules_install && make install
[08:47] <bimberi> hardw1re: that link (from ubotu) might help
[08:47] <Julian> Phoinix:  One thing I've found:  Ubuntu is based on debian, but it ain't debian.
[08:47] <hardw1re> cheers :)
[08:47] <punkass> I have just added a new rep to my sources.list but when I try and update it says "Ign" which I assume means ignore
[08:48] <punkass> I believe its because I have to gpg key..and i am not sure how to get one
[08:48] <Tonka> kubuntu is really cool. i used to have red hat. but how do I put the trash icon on the desk top. help. :-)
[08:48] <punkass> to = no*
[08:48] <Phoinix> Julian, This kernel has worked in a suse distribution in the same pc... :/
[08:48] <TraceGreen>  Hello, i have bootsplash now, but it don't have progressbar, how can i set it out?
[08:49] <sepht> apache2 doesn't serve php correcly????
[08:49] <Phoinix> IS there any kind of boot log, that i can track the problem down?
[08:49] <ubuntu> hello
[08:49] <ubuntu> i would like to know how to operate qemu
[08:49] <sepht> ubuntu: man it
[08:49] <ubuntu> i went on the site but the link does not work for me
[08:49] <sepht> anyone know why apache2 doesn't serve php
[08:49] <bimberi> Tonka: there should be one at the very bottom right (assuming you're using gnome)
[08:49] <sepht> ?
[08:49] <ubuntu> hellO!
[08:49] <ubuntu> can anyone tell me how to operate qemu!?!
[08:49] <hardw1re> !tar
[08:49] <ubotu> hardw1re: Are you smoking crack?
[08:50] <hardw1re> :x
[08:50] <ubuntu> bob2!
[08:50] <jon__> Does anybody here use irssi? If so, do you know how to set it so it autsend comands?
[08:50] <ubuntu> are u online?
[08:50] <hardw1re> !tar.gz
[08:50] <ubotu> hardw1re: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:50] <ubuntu> please
[08:50] <Madpilot> sepht: it does for me...
[08:50] <sepht> Madpilot: really?
[08:50] <ubuntu> SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO USE QEMU
[08:50] <Madpilot> !tell sepht about lamp
[08:50] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: stop being annoying
[08:50] <bmecoli> wow, xmms is being gay :)
[08:50] <ubuntu> !!!!TELL ME HOW TO OPERATE QEMU PLEASE....
[08:50] <ubotu> ubuntu: Wish i knew
[08:50] <Madpilot> sepht: PHP4 - see the URL ubotu just sent you
[08:50] <Tonka> Bimberi thanks so much. I have it at the bottom right but I like it in the desktop. so I can drag and drop.
[08:51] <sepht> seen that though..
[08:51] <ubuntu> darn
[08:51] <Madpilot> ubuntu: stop having a tantrum
[08:51] <sepht> it works in apache 1.3 ...
[08:51] <jon__> Does anybody here use irssi? If so, do you know how to set it so it autsend comands?
[08:51] <ubuntu> anyone know how to operate qemu?
[08:51] <robotgeek> jon__: autosend?
[08:51] <Evil_Taco> Hey, whats a good C++ program?
[08:51] <hardw1re> wats the command to unzip .bz2 again, i've completey forgotton :|
[08:51] <ubuntu> visual c++ express
[08:51] <ubuntu> u can download it free
[08:51] <ubuntu> :D:D
[08:51] <robotgeek> Evil_Taco: for what?
[08:51] <ubuntu> from da microsoft site
[08:51] <renedox> the
[08:52] <renedox> not da
[08:52] <Madpilot> sepht: I followed exactly those steps in the ApacheMySQLPHP page, and everything works for me...
[08:52] <robotgeek> ubuntu: now, u are being disruptive
[08:52] <Julian> adriyel:  apt reports that it can't find the package for libgdl.  I probably need to add to my sources.list.  Can you refer me to a url with a complete set that I'll need?
[08:52] <ubuntu> anyone know how to operate qemu
[08:52] <Evil_Taco> Just for writting small little programs, learning purposes. I know nothing about C++
[08:52] <ginger_> so, no problems with Hoary and zero USB recognition? no one? no help?
[08:52] <Agrajag> I think he's acting like a retard on purpose, note that he also recommended microsoft
[08:52] <ubuntu> use visual c++ express evil taco
[08:52] <ubuntu> its free from the microsoft site
[08:52] <ubuntu> just download it
[08:52] <hardw1re> !ban
[08:52] <ubotu> hardw1re: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:52] <robotgeek> Evil_Taco: you have c++ compiler included with ubuntu
[08:52] <atomicoz> there's a difference between acting and being Agrajag :)
[08:52] <Julian> Wierd, though I do have the headers that I need (netcdf.h)
[08:53] <ubuntu> robot geek
[08:53] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: obviously no one here currently can help - and repeating won't make a guru magically appear
[08:53] <robotgeek> ubuntu: welcome to my ignore list
[08:53] <ubuntu> .
[08:53] <hardw1re> lol
[08:53] <Agrajag> Evil_Taco: if you just need something to do syntax highlighting and that sort of thing, emacs or vim will do it
[08:53] <iiiears> Hello thoreauputic. :)
[08:53] <Madpilot> robotgeek: it's usually harder to get rid of idiots than that - thanks!
[08:53] <Evil_Taco> Where is it at robotgeek?
[08:53] <thoreauputic> iiiears: hi :)
[08:53] <Agrajag> or there's Anjuta, which is a full IDE, I've not used it much so I'm not sure how good it is
[08:54] <robotgeek> Evil_Taco: open up a terminal, and type g++
[08:54] <ian> kind of a random question, but related to Ubuntu (evolution): anyone know if the Delete key works in OSX's Trash folder (to *actually* delete the file)?
[08:54] <Julian> I'm currently trying to compile it.  Anyone help with that?
[08:54] <hardw1re> !bz2
[08:54] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, hardw1re
[08:54] <robotgeek> Madpilot: :)
[08:54] <Julian> Perhaps spend a few minutes on a private channel?
[08:54] <iiiears> !tar
[08:54] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you smoking crack?
[08:54] <hardw1re> :A
[08:54] <Agrajag> hardw1re: come on man, it's in the tar manual
[08:54] <robotgeek> don't abuse my cousin
[08:54] <bimberi> hardw1re: bunzip2
[08:54] <robotgeek> !lart hardw1re
[08:54] <Agrajag> tar xvjf whatever.tar.bz2
[08:54] <robotgeek> lol
[08:55] <Evil_Taco> I did and its saying command not found
[08:55] <iiiears> lol
[08:55] <Agrajag> Evil_Taco: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:55] <bimberi> hardw1re: ... although Agrajag's post is probably what you're after :)
[08:55] <renedox> sudo apt-get life
[08:55] <renedox> sudo apt-get install life
[08:55] <robotgeek> Evil_Taco: in the terminal, do apt-get install build-essential
[08:56] <robotgeek> renedox: apt is good, but i doubt it's that good :)
[08:56] <Agrajag> robotgeek: you forgot the sudo
[08:56] <Yabden> life is only available in rpm format, and not convertable by alien
[08:56] <skpl> can someone tell me how to set the default terminal in kde?
[08:56] <Agrajag> can't do that to newbies
[08:56] <renedox> robotgeek: haha :P
[08:56] <robotgeek> Agrajag: :(
[08:56] <Agrajag> just sayin' is all
[08:56] <robotgeek> Agrajag: good point, noted!
[08:56] <Evil_Taco> thanks guys, I appreciate it :D
[08:56] <bleachnaruto> anyone know how to operate qemu?
[08:57] <crimsun_> (forums up)
[08:57] <robotgeek> :)
[08:57] <robotgeek> crimsun_: someone stole your nick?
[08:57] <Oewyn> !ndiswrapper
[08:57] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:57] <crimsun_> robotgeek, no, both clients are mine
[08:58] <robotgeek> crimsun_: ah, okay! i got stuck in a screen like that once :)
[08:58] <bleachnaruto> anyone watch anime?
[08:58] <crimsun_> (different location)
[08:58] <robotgeek> bleachnaruto: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:58] <Oewyn> hrmmm... sudo modprobe ndiswrapper didn't work... hrmmmmmm
[08:58] <robotgeek> crimsun_: ah, ok
[08:58] <bleachnaruto> hi robotgeek
[08:58] <ian> does anyone use Mozilla Thunderbird?
[08:58] <Oewyn> got the package installed, and had the module created
[08:59] <hardw1re> bah i thought so, turns out i had the command right, just that it hadnt downloded right so it wasnt an actual .bz2 file lol
[08:59] <bleachnaruto> robotgeek, can u give me a link to the documentation part for qemu? cuz i am having a really great trouble finding it....
[08:59] <odyssey> how can i sudo into another username?
[08:59] <BROKEN_LADDER> i installed enlightenment but i can't see it as a choice in kdm..anyone?
[08:59] <dieman> mmmm
[09:00] <bleachnaruto> i tend to get to go to the bit for virtual machine, then, when i click qemu, it says "404 error"
[09:00] <dieman> love having a fast mirror
[09:00] <dieman> 750 kB/s :)
[09:00] <crimsun_> dieman, lucky umn.edu dog
[09:00] <NewUser> hallo
[09:00] <NewUser> anybody can help me
[09:00] <dieman> crimsun_: heh, where you at?
[09:00] <dieman> this is just at home
[09:00] <dieman> yay for comcast gold tier.
[09:01] <dieman> its like 6-7 now, but 8mbps evetually
[09:01] <dieman> and 10mbps someday
[09:01] <crimsun_> dieman, NC. I was at IBM Rochester earlier and used ftp.cs.umn.edu constantly
[09:01] <dieman> ahh
[09:01] <dieman> crimsun_: move to mirror.cs.umn.edu evetually
[09:01] <robotgeek> anyone know how to set ignore based on host?
[09:01] <robotgeek> in irssi?
[09:01] <dieman> crimsun_: and sorry when it stopped updaing sometime -- we were using tds.net as a mirror
[09:01] <crimsun_> dieman, yeah, I believe I ended up using mirror later
[09:01] <dieman> and tds kept on wacking out
[09:02] <bimberi> odyssey: su - <username>   <-- from the root terminal (or shell: "sudo -i")
[09:02] <bleachnaruto> anyone?
[09:02] <bleachnaruto> i really need help on qemu! but everyone is just treating me like a ghost
[09:02] <ekimus> hi, i'm setting up ion (ion3) right now and the docs (/usr/share/doc/ion3/README.Debian|dock) state that there should be a file dock.lua somewhere but not even find tells me about it. any hints?
[09:02] <bimberi> bleachnaruto: that's because we don't know
[09:02] <crimsun_> bleachnaruto, have you checked the documentation in /usr/share/doc/qemu*/ ?
[09:02] <bleachnaruto> thanks for that response
[09:03] <bimberi> bleachnaruto: yvw :)
[09:03] <thoreauputic> bleachnaruto: your affliction is known as "narcissism" - look it up
[09:03] <dieman> crimsun_: basically i only had a 80gb partition on ftp.cs, got a 300gb disk on mirror now
[09:03] <crimsun_> bleachnaruto, there also seems to be documentation at http://www.qemu.org/user-doc.html
[09:03] <crimsun_> dieman, excellent!
[09:03] <robotgeek> bleachnaruto is the same guy as ubuntu
[09:04] <dieman> now i just need to get gigE on that machine if the bw usage gets too high
[09:04] <bleachnaruto> ubuntu?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: I guess we knew that...
[09:04] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: no ops when they're needed for a little educational kicking... too bad
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> geez
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> ill just use vmware isntead...
[09:05] <crimsun_> bleachnaruto, I just gave you two pointers...
[09:05] <Julian> So, I have the library I need (netcfg) downloaded through synaptic/apt-get.  It won't let me do a build-dep on it.
[09:05] <Julian> What then?
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> ty
[09:05] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: sorry, i had that guy on ignore (i guess he changed his nick, and i din't get that message). so, how do i block this guy ?
[09:05] <ColonelKernel> what kind of job can I get if Im good enough at linux to not relaly have to ask questions anymore?
[09:05] <dieman> crimsun_: heh, but using half the disk now -- i put dvd images on there too
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> but anyway
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> thanks guys
[09:05] <ian> I have a quick question for anyone using Windows, OSX or KDE right now.  It's related to a bug report I'm filing. Please message me if you've got a minute!
[09:05] <dieman> and debian-amd64
[09:05] <bleachnaruto> for that information
[09:05] <ColonelKernel> pardon the typing skills im recovering from iv sedation
[09:06] <bleachnaruto> bye
[09:06] <dieman> which i should setup to get rsynced all the time
[09:06] <poningru> someone explain to me why mp3 playing capability is not in ubuntu out of the box?
[09:06] <Yabden> licensing issues
[09:06] <thoreauputic> poningru: licensing
[09:06] <poningru> decoding is not patented only encoding is
[09:06] <iiiears> patented file format mp3's
[09:06] <HrdwrBoB> poningru: wrong
[09:06] <poningru> ?
[09:06] <poningru> docs please
[09:07] <iiiears> *.ogg is every bit as good
[09:07] <bimberi> evidence of googling please
[09:07] <poningru> searching turned up nothing
[09:07] <poningru> well in the forums and ubuntu wiki
[09:07] <ian> iiiears: not when you have a .mp3 file... :)
[09:07] <poningru> maybe I should try google
[09:07] <Agrajag> iiiears: that does someone with a bunch of mp3s a whole lot of good
[09:08] <poningru> iiiears: the prob is .ogg is not as mature as .mp3 so it doesnt have as good decoders in the small players
[09:08] <crimsun_> poningru, http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/software.html
[09:08] <m> hi
[09:08] <adriyel> I might be nuts here or something, but its been my impression that ogg didn't sound as good as mp3's for music. this is from personal experience
[09:08] <m> hi
[09:08] <adriyel> if I wanted quality though, I'd use flac.
[09:09] <thoreauputic> adriyel: you're nuts ;-)
[09:09] <drummer87> hi all, quick question about breezy: if i install it alongside my hoary install on a separate partition, will it overwrite my current grub install?
[09:09] <adriyel> too bad I don't have any cd's, just dl'ed MP3's
[09:09] <poningru> wtf
[09:09] <siimo> anyone know where i can get some decorative cool fonts in ubuntu? like the ones knoppix live cd has
[09:09] <poningru> hmm ok
[09:09] <m> halo is there is any body who want to chat with me
[09:09] <poningru> I will bring this up thank you
[09:09] <m> halo poningru
[09:10] <crimsun_> poningru, note that a similar thread surfaced recently on debian-legal: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/07/msg00081.html
[09:10] <nalioth> siimo: get em off the knoppix cd
[09:10] <m> halo
[09:10] <m> halo
[09:10] <robotgeek> m: ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <bimberi> m: this is an ubuntu support channel, not for chat, if you have an ubuntu related question we'd love to help
[09:11] <adriyel> wtf @ m
[09:11] <adriyel> M$ fanboy?
[09:11] <adriyel>  :P
[09:11] <hardw1re> O-o
[09:12] <thoreauputic> heh, that guy didn't look very hard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo  I would imagine that might have been useful...
[09:12] <Madpilot> what's the license on those fonts in the Knoppix LiveCD? Any reason they can't be added to Ubuntu's distro?
[09:13] <leo1> can any help me!
[09:13] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, likely not DFSG-free
[09:13] <cafuego> Burgundavia: So they can go in extras, eh?
[09:13] <nalioth> Madpilot: get em for yourself from the knoppix disk
[09:13] <leo1> after i setup wireless router, my test web server is not work
[09:13] <drummer87> noone here using breezy??
[09:13] <robotgeek> leo1: just state your problem :)
[09:13] <iiiears> nice discussion of mp3 licensing. - never saw the numbers before.
[09:13] <Burgundavia> cafuego, if they can be redistributed, then can go in multiverse
[09:14] <robotgeek> drummer87: me on breezy!
[09:14] <Madpilot> nalioth: I actually pulled the Knoppix ISO down a while ago, I'll have to poke around...
[09:14] <cafuego> Madpilot: What's the font names?
[09:14] <Bobby_G> what kernel version is there in ubuntu 5.04
[09:14] <Bobby_G> ?
[09:14] <bimberi> 2.6.10
[09:14] <barney_> correct
[09:14] <cafuego> Bobby_G: 2.6.10 (with patches)
[09:15] <leo1> i think i made misconfuguraion with wireless router
[09:15] <Bobby_G> ok
[09:15] <robotgeek> leo1: okay, go ahead
[09:15] <ColonelKernel> 2.6.10-5-686-smp here but i use the breezy kernel sources to compile my own
[09:15] <drummer87> robotgeek, will it overwrite my current grub config from hoary?
[09:15] <barney_> 2.6.10-5-386 here
[09:15] <ColonelKernel> IM compiling now but I wiped my old 2.6.12 b/c I am still wasted from anesthestic
[09:15] <Madpilot> cafuego: don't know, actually. I did one liveCD boot of Knoppix, just to make sure the burn worked
[09:15] <robotgeek> drummer87: i am on ppc, and i upadted manually, not using the cdrmom :)
[09:16] <ColonelKernel> i dont remember anything today and I hope i didnt make an ass out of myself in teh recovery room
[09:16] <Bobby_G> what does smp mean ?
[09:16] <robotgeek> s/cdrmom/cdrom
[09:16] <cafuego> !smp
[09:16] <ubotu> cafuego: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:16] <cafuego> ubotu: useless pos
[09:16] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, cafuego
[09:16] <ColonelKernel> Bobby_G Symmetrical Multi processing I think
[09:16] <cafuego> Bobby_G: symmetric multi processing (multiple cpu's in a single computer)
[09:16] <hardw1re> bash: dch: command not found <--- anyone know why im getting this?
[09:16] <Bobby_G> I'm totally neew to this. Thechoice is between ubuntu and debian. have to use Linux in a school project . If I choose ubuntu I will come back here with many stupid questions =)
[09:16] <drummer87> robotgeek, hmm, k... i wanted to install both together.. and not on ppc ;)
[09:17] <cafuego> Bobby_G: If you have a Hyperthreaded p4, you also want an smp kernel.
[09:17] <drummer87> although i would like to get a ppc to play with :P
[09:17] <ColonelKernel> what im wondering is this - why is it symmetric ? its not like things are balanced
[09:17] <cafuego> hardw1re: You typed an incorrect command?
[09:17] <robotgeek> drummer87: you x86 boys have it easy :)
[09:17] <ColonelKernel> cpu0 gets used WAY more than cpu1
[09:17] <nalioth> drummer87: apple.com/store and click on the red tag at the bottom right
[09:17] <ColonelKernel> Im pretty sure the programs decide what cpu to use instead of the kernel
[09:17] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: Not if the scheduler isn't broken.
[09:18] <ColonelKernel> cafuego cpu1 aint gonna get used if the prog aint written for smp
[09:18] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: no, the kernel decides and can move them; soemtimes it's more cost effective to not move and and slightly overuse one of the cpus though.
[09:18] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: well duh.
[09:19] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: That doesn't mean prog1 can't run on cpu0 whilst the kernel runs on cpu1
[09:19] <pcharky> Hey people, can anybody help me with a firewall probem?
[09:19] <ColonelKernel> HMM
[09:19] <iiiears> can you use apt to fetch a package without installing it?
[09:19] <ofer0> hi, i write "sudo -i" and it probably changed something on my system because i cant log in to my username
[09:19] <nalioth> iiiears: yes you can
[09:19] <ColonelKernel> I never considered using cpu1 for kernel - that would make an insane performance increase!!
[09:19] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: Seeing as even an idle linux box tends to run at least 20-odd processes and/or kernel threads, SMP makes sense.
[09:19] <iiiears> Cool
[09:19] <Burgundavia> cafuego, hoary-extras is only for things like w32codecs (which is totally black) and libdvdcss2, which the dvda sues people over
[09:19] <Bobby_G> Is it easy to use an Intel Wireless Pro 2200 card in lastest ubuntu (5.04) ? I know some kernels have problems with that
[09:19] <Burgundavia> cafuego, despire have a nice license
[09:20] <bimberi> iiiears: apt-get -d
[09:20] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: The kernel already does this kind of scheduling. it can move kernel threads between cpus etc.
[09:20] <leo1> i use netgear wireless router
[09:20] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: if you enable SMP mode in top, you can see which CPU processes are running on.
[09:20] <iiiears> Thank You
[09:20] <bimberi> yw
[09:20] <ColonelKernel> cafuego well mine tends to keep pretty much everything on cpu0 - it still uses cpu1 but not as much
[09:20] <robotgeek> leo1: okay, go ahead and tell us your exact problem!
[09:20] <ofer0> please can somebody help me? with sudo -i ?
[09:20] <iiiears> man apt - was blinded with options - lol
[09:21] <curutz> hey can anyone tell me which folder is the bookmarks on firefox is stored?
[09:21] <leo1> before using router, webserver is work
[09:21] <leo1> after, not work
[09:21] <ofer0> curutz, its a file called "bookmarks.html"
[09:21] <ofer0> search for it
[09:21] <curutz> ok
[09:21] <curutz> ty
[09:21] <leo1> problem is misconfiguration in router
[09:21] <nalioth> curutz: you may start looking in ~/.mozilla-firefox
[09:21] <drummer87> nalioth, hehe.. still right out of my price range, i'm a student with no job
[09:21] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: if it runs ALL idle threads on cpu0 and ONE active one on cpu1, it's STILL redistributed the work optimally.
[09:21] <poningru> curutz: its should be in your profile folder
[09:22] <poningru> its in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[09:22] <robotgeek> leo1: you might want to look at forwarding a few ports, look at www.portforward.com
[09:22] <nalioth> drummer87: ebay, then.
[09:22] <robotgeek> drummer87: that's how i got this powerbook, 400$
[09:22] <leo1> yes,i read n tryed but
[09:22] <thoreauputic> ubotu qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[09:22] <ubotu> thoreauputic: okay
[09:23] <robotgeek> drummer87: btw, i am also a student with no job :((
[09:23] <bimberi> nice work thoreauputic :)
[09:23] <cafuego> ColonelKernel: I'm fairly sure the 2.6 kernels can (or are patchable to) set CPU affinity on a per-process basis, if you think you're smarter then the scheduler.
[09:23] <leo1> i made statis ip and point it, but no work
[09:23] <cafuego> (which admittedly isn't hard)
[09:23] <thoreauputic> bimberi: thanks - I think that guy needs to hone his google skills ;-)
[09:23] <bimberi> :)
[09:24] <drummer87> robotgeek, is it difficult to get ubuntu running nicely on the powerbook?
[09:24] <nalioth> drummer87: it is easy to get ubuntu on anything prior to the new imac G5
[09:24] <nalioth> drummer87: i've got it running nicely on my DP 1.8 powermac
[09:25] <ofer0> after running "sudo -i" probably my home dir changed or something, and i cant log in - it says "permission denied" even though in /etc/passwd it says that it is my home dir, and the owner is me.
[09:27] <cafuego> ofer0: did you change the owner of your homedir to root or something?
[09:28] <thoreauputic> ofer0: sudo -i plonks you into /root
[09:28] <thoreauputic> (root's home dir)
[09:28] <leo1> i run only 2 com behind router
[09:29] <leo1> 1 laptop with wirelass, test webserver on 1 desktop
[09:29] <iiiears> nalioth - the simple "YES" answer to the apt question forced a reread of "man apt-get" - some new knowledge snuck in.. - thanks a lot. - lol
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ofer0:  ctrl-d to exit the root shel, BTW (if you didn't know)
[09:30] <nalioth> iiiears: yes, knowledge is sneaky that way
[09:30] <thoreauputic> *shell
[09:30] <ofer0> thoreauputic, i know
[09:30] <ofer0> cafuego, no
[09:30] <hardw1re> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt <--- what do i need to install for that to work then?
[09:30] <cafuego> thoreauputic: sudo -i also *makes* you root, so you shouldn't be getting permission denied.
[09:30] <thoreauputic> ofer0: OK -just in case :)
[09:30] <cafuego> hardw1re: What are you compiling?
[09:30] <leo1> for webserver ip to pointout, i use internal Lan ip. is it right?
[09:30] <hardw1re> kernel
[09:31] <cafuego> hardw1re: use 'make menuconfig'
[09:31] <kevin06> Really dumb question. I just installed Visual Boy Advance with Synaptic, but what is the command to run it?
[09:31] <cafuego> hardw1re: install libncurses5-dev
[09:31] <hardw1re> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
[09:31] <hardw1re> ok cheers
[09:31] <thoreauputic> cafuego: I was wondering if maybe his ~/.Xauthority has changed owners...
[09:32] <cafuego> thoreauputic: That's possible; ofer0 can you log in OK on a console?
[09:33] <cafuego> ooher, -13-rc7 is out
[09:33] <ColonelKernel> rebooting brb
[09:33] <thoreauputic> ofer0: what does ls -l /home/youruser/.Xauthority say?
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[09:36] <leo1> robotgeek_ the problem now take 2 days but i can't still fix
[09:36] <m0r0n> Is there a tool to extract rar-files compressed on windows?
[09:36] <cafuego> m0r0n: unrar-nonfree
[09:37] <bateau> whats the apt-get command for glib and so on?
[09:37] <cafuego> bateau: apt-cache search glib
[09:37] <bmecoli> heyt what's the command to change permissions?
[09:37] <bateau> there was this in-one-command for all of that stuff :x
[09:37] <cafuego> bmecoli: chmod
[09:37] <bmecoli> I need to change some as root
[09:38] <cafuego> bmecoli: such as?
[09:38] <bmecoli> chmod *.* 777 would free everything in current directory right?
[09:38] <drummer87> what's the minimum requirements (CPU/RAM) for ubuntu on a ppc? same as PC?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> bateau: that's kind of vague... what are you wanting to do ?
[09:38] <bmecoli> a directory in xmms
[09:38] <cafuego> bmecoli: yes, but that would normally not be a good idea. What are you trying to do?
[09:38] <nalioth> drummer87: ubuntu will run on any new world machine (with the exception of the newer imacs)
[09:39] <bmecoli> add some files to the input plugin folder
[09:39] <nalioth> drummer87: i've also seen it running on an old-world 233mhz powerbook
[09:39] <cafuego> drummer87: It should run fine on anything G3 233 with probably 128 ram ABSOLUTE mimimum; 256 nice 512Mb comfortable.
[09:40] <cafuego> drummer87: I've run it on an old-word G3/233 with 192 mb just fine.
[09:40] <bonvenon> drummer87: same here
[09:40] <drummer87> hmm, same as for x86.. i think there are some old eMacs at my school, sounds like it'll work on those then :)
[09:40] <Kromonos> hallo :)
[09:41] <drummer87> i'm sure they don't need them there
[09:41] <cafuego> drummer87: If you have less than 128Mb ram, do a 'server' install, then add a lightweight wm like *box
[09:41] <bateau> where can i find a full repository list? there was this list in pastebin or something
[09:41] <Kromonos> huhu
[09:41] <nalioth> bateau: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:41] <thoreauputic> !list
[09:41] <ubotu> list is, like, you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:42] <thoreauputic> bah
[09:42] <thoreauputic> !sources
[09:42] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:43] <Kromonos> why doesn't work ubuntu with a resulution of 1024x768 at my laptop?
[09:43] <bateau> i just installed that other version breezy badger or what it was... should i use some other repository list?
[09:43] <cafuego> bateau: nah, it's going to be broken either way.
[09:44] <bateau> cafuego: what you mean?
[09:44] <hardw1re> hmm, im currently looking thru the kernel config and alot of it looks to be pre-configured...
[09:44] <iiiears> !topic
[09:44] <cafuego> bateau: breezy is broken
[09:44] <cafuego> bateau: as in: not stable
[09:45] <durt> anybody know how to disable the "tap-and-clicking" on a touchpad?
[09:45] <nalioth> iiiears: you want <nickname> see /topic
[09:45] <iiiears> Ah - okay.. - thx
[09:46] <Kromonos> why doesn't work ubuntu with a resulution of 1024x768 at my laptop?
[09:46] <bateau> aha
[09:46] <durt> Kromonos: is that your highest resolution?
[09:46] <Kromonos> 640x480
[09:46] <Tonka> please help me put the trash icon on my kubuntu desktop. right now its in the lower right hand corner.
[09:46] <Yabden> Kromonos try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the right stuff
[09:47] <durt> Kromonos: breezy or hoary?
[09:47] <Kromonos> ahh, ok. thx
[09:47] <Kromonos> hoary
[09:48] <Alfred1881> Alfred1881 i need a prog to convert mp3 to wav :)
[09:48] <ekimus> does kdm ignore the .xinitrc?
[09:49] <Yabden> ekimus yep
[09:49] <thoreauputic> ekimus: yes, you need .xsession ( and choose system session or whatver it is in kdm)
[09:50] <cafuego> Alfred1881: mpg321
[09:50] <thoreauputic> ekimus:  mv .xinitrc .xsession    (should work)
[09:50] <ofer0> after running "sudo -i" probably my home dir changed or something, and i cant log in - it says "permission denied" even though in /etc/passwd it says that it is my home dir, and the owner is me.
[09:50] <ekimus> thoreauputic: system session is for gdm? (i actually don't care about the login manager just)
[09:50] <iiiears> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/MP3-CD-Burning.html  nice tips
[09:50] <ekimus> thoreauputic: they are symlinked :)
[09:51] <cafuego> yes, KDM ignores them all. hence it's crap.
[09:51] <thoreauputic> ekimus: your .xsession and .xinitrc are symlinked?
[09:51] <ofer0> no ideas what could cause this problem?
[09:51] <theBrave> whats the default root password for ubuntu 5.04 ?
[09:51] <ekimus> thoreauputic: yes. since they actually use the same syntax (afaik) it worked for me so far
[09:51] <thoreauputic> cafuego: really? that's brain-damaged ...
[09:52] <Seveas> theBrave, there is none...
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ekimus: looks like gdm would work better for you...
[09:52] <Seveas> !tell theBrave about root
[09:52] <bonvenon> theBrave: it's the same as your user password
[09:52] <thoreauputic> ekimus: for gdm you can also put a *.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
[09:52] <ekimus> thoreauputic: dpkg-reconfigure is enough for ubuntu or do i have to update-rc.d as well?
[09:53] <ofer0> why the hell in ubuntulinux wiki they say to run "sudo -i" instead of "su" if it causes so much problems?!
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ekimus: um... thet doesn't make sense
[09:53] <Yabden> sudo is more secure
[09:53] <thoreauputic> ofer0: it doesn't, normally
[09:53] <ofer0> thoreauputic, you ever tried this command?
[09:53] <icec_76> hi, can you help me with firefox im trying to upgrade to1.0.6 ,after i removed 1.2 it says cannot be upgraded?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ofer0: of course
[09:54] <Seveas> ofer0, it causes no problems...
[09:54] <ekimus> thoreauputic: i meant to change the login manager from kdm to gdm ist dpkg-reconfigure gdm enough, or do I have to update the runlevels too with update-rc.d
[09:54] <ofer0> Seveas, i did "sudo -i" and it changed something, i dont know what exactly. i cant login to my regular username because of that. the reason: permission denied
[09:54] <Seveas> ekimus, that might be needed...
[09:54] <durt> !java
[09:54] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:54] <thoreauputic> ekimus: ah i see! dpkg-reconfigure should do it
[09:54] <Seveas> ofer0, that must have been your mistake
[09:54] <Seveas> i could have happened with su too
[09:55] <Seveas> what's the error on login?
[09:55] <ekimus> well I'll just try, a reboot a day keeps the kernel oops away :)
[09:55] <ofer0> Seveas, even though im the owner of /home/username, and in /etc/passwd its my correct home dir
[09:55] <Seveas> ekimus, *g*
[09:55] <Seveas> ofer0, what's the exact error on login?
[09:55] <icec_76> hi, can you help me with firefox im trying to upgrade to1.0.6 ,after i removed 1.2 it says cannot be upgraded?
[09:56] <thoreauputic> ekimus: have a look at /etc/X11/default-display-manager as well (quick way to change)
[09:56] <durt> use opera
[09:56] <icec_76> i like firefox
[09:56] <Seveas> icec_76, remove all traces of firefox
[09:56] <Seveas> and then retry
[09:56] <icec_76> i did
[09:56] <ofer0> Seveas, it logs me out immediatly, says permission denied on changing some file in /home/username/. even when i enter my /home/username using gnome recovery mode, i cant read /home/username. only with root
[09:56] <Seveas> icec_76, ten please paste the complete output/error on the pastebin
[09:56] <Yabden> icec_76 are you using the http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ source in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:57] <knowledge_> good night everyone
[09:57] <icec_76> yes
[09:57] <Yabden> comment it out and remove firefox
[09:57] <iiiears> g'nite
[09:57] <Yabden> it is a known problem that a few people have been having
[09:57] <Seveas> ofer0, if you can login as root, do this: chown -R username:username /home/username
[09:57] <ofer0> Seveas, did it already
[09:57] <icec_76> i'll try
[09:57] <Seveas> still no good?
[09:57] <Yabden> comment out both entries of that site if you have two
[09:57] <Yabden> it will definately fix your problem
[09:57] <ofer0> Seveas, yeah.
[09:58] <wahlau> anyone here tried installing networkmanager via alien using the rpm?
[09:58] <Seveas> ofer0, then chmod +w the_file_that_it_b0rks_about
[09:58] <ofer0> Seveas, +w is?
[09:58] <Seveas> writeable by anyone
[09:58] <ofer0> k thanx ill try and come back
[09:58] <Seveas> (you change it back later once it's solved)
[10:02] <wahlau> my hoary (Gnome to be specific) is crashing now
[10:02] <wahlau> cant even start terminal :(
[10:04] <wahlau> is breezy now pretty stable to test?
[10:06] <durt> wahlau: you might not want breezy if you have a touchpad... grargh!
[10:07] <wahlau> oh
[10:07] <wahlau> i have a touchpad :)
[10:07] <wahlau> but i use the red touch point
[10:07] <wahlau> :)
[10:07] <durt> maybe i just have no idea what im doing...
[10:07] <IceDC571> red touch point??
[10:08] <ofer0> Seveas, something very very strange. i did chmod -R +rw /home/user, AND I STILL CANT READ FROM IT!!!
[10:09] <IceDC571> ofer0: have you tried chmod 777 -R /home/user?
[10:09] <ofer0> IceDC571, giving execute permission to files that not supposed to run, is wrong
[10:09] <srijith> ofer0, I pity the poor "user" if you do 777 :)
[10:09] <ofer0> IceDC571, and no i didnt
[10:10] <ofer0> srijith, heh :P
[10:10] <ofer0> what could be the problem?? is that something related to gnome variables ?
[10:12] <benplaut> 'night
[10:12] <srijith> how do I adjust the laptop gamma in linux/ubuntu
[10:13] <srijith> laptop LCD I meant
[10:13] <durt> laptop what?
[10:14] <wahlau> what is the status of breezy now?
[10:14] <Seveas> ofer0, what is the EXACT error you get when logging in?
[10:14] <srijith> durt, gamma to calibrate the monitor
[10:14] <Seveas> wahlau, pretty good, but not stable enough fir everyday use
[10:14] <Seveas> srijith, xgamma
[10:15] <srijith> Seveas, I am looking for a frontend to xgamma, it is too primitive for layman user use..
[10:15] <wahlau> Seveas: thanks
[10:15] <wahlau> i need to consider because i screwed up my hoary
[10:15] <wahlau> :(
[10:15] <IceDC571> lol maybe thats why i run into problems when i give everything a chmod 777
[10:16] <hardw1re> hmmm, anyone know what this means, make[2] : *** No rule to make target `arch/x86_64/kernel/../../i386/kernel/bootflag.s', needed by `arch/x86_64/kernel/../../i386/kernel/bootflag.o'.  Stop.
[10:16] <srijith> haa .. got some.. lemme try them
[10:16] <Uthini-work> what are the permissions to make a drive mount with read-write permissions?
[10:16] <Uthini-work> i have 80 gigs that i can't write to
[10:17] <iiiears> where are the xgamma settings saved?
[10:17] <DrSpin> could someone send me a default hoary sources.list please ??
[10:17] <DrSpin> or tell me where I can find one LOL
[10:17] <iiiears> xgamma - neat tool
[10:17] <wahlau> guys, anyway i can reinstall gnome only?
[10:17] <wahlau> possible?
[10:17] <ofer0> Seveas, even thru the grub recovery console i cant enter my own /home/user, with +rw to all files, and user:user to all files.
[10:17] <AvatarofVirgo> Can some one tell me how to set up video cards manually in ubuntu.  Before I had suse and I ended up going to safe mode in grub and running sax2 after loggin into root.  I had to remove my video card plug in the monitor to my boards video and run sax2 because it would try to auto detect my card.  I have a very weird nvidia card that it gives a black screen when you load sax2.....
[10:18] <JairunCaloth> #crossover
[10:18] <JairunCaloth> meh
[10:18] <AvatarofVirgo> Any ways my video card is  a real chore to get to work in any distro.  How do I do it in ubuntu?
[10:18] <iiiears> Avatar, - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    - does it.
[10:18] <Yabden> AvatarofVirgo sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <ofer0> Seveas, IMHO, the exact error is not relevant, ofcourse i cant run gnome if my home directory is unaccessable.
[10:18] <iiiears> !resolution
[10:18] <ubotu> resolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:18] <DrSpin> !sources
[10:18] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:19] <DrSpin> !apt
[10:19] <ofer0> !sudo
[10:19] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[10:19] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:19] <iiiears> ubotu you are a real timesaver.
[10:19] <ubotu> iiiears: I think you lost me on that one
[10:20] <Madpilot> eventually this whole channel will consist of nothing but people asking ubotu things, and it answering...
[10:20] <durt> !xgamma
[10:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, durt
[10:20] <durt> !ubuto
[10:20] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, durt
[10:20] <durt> !ubotu
[10:20] <apokryphos> Madpilot: doubtful
[10:20] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:20] <AvatarofVirgo> What about setting up my dialup connection?
[10:20] <iiiears> xgamma settings written to xorg.conf   ?
[10:20] <Seveas> ofer0, if you don't tell the exact error I can't help you ....
[10:20] <apokryphos> durt: don't abuse the bot :P
[10:20] <AvatarofVirgo> It wouldn't detect my external serial modem for some odd reason.
[10:20] <ofer0> Seveas, ok, if you insist.. ill go check
[10:21] <Uthini-work> lol
[10:21] <hardw1re> http://paste.husk.org/3996
[10:21] <Madpilot> apokryphos: I happened to switch back to my channel view just as three people in a row !'ed ubotu, and the thought occured to me... ;)
[10:22] <cafuego> !hi
[10:22] <ubotu> cafuego: Not a clue
[10:22] <Seveas> hardw1re, use make-kpkg to build ubuntu kernels...
[10:22] <cafuego> That damn bot is _so_ broken
[10:22] <Seveas> the !hi command is a plugin right?
[10:22] <cafuego> Seveas: yeah, which is on, afaik
[10:23] <cafuego> !hello
[10:23] <ubotu> cafuego: What?
[10:23] <DrSpin> could I convince someone to paste a default hoary sources.list for me please??
[10:23] <apokryphos> !sources
[10:23] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:23] <Seveas> DrAwesome, pastebin/969
[10:23] <cafuego> ubotu: stop being broken
[10:23] <ubotu> Well, fix me then!
[10:23] <Seveas> hehehe
[10:24] <Uthini-work> once i get my 80g to mount with read write
[10:24] <Uthini-work> cos then i can backup
[10:24] <DrSpin> !repositories
[10:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:24] <DrSpin> ;)
[10:24] <iiiears> cafuego - nice work! :)   ubotu is getting really smart
[10:25] <cafuego> iiiears: hey, don't blame me
[10:26] <Uthini-work> !mount
[10:26] <ubotu> I guess mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[10:26] <Uthini-work> !windowsdrives
[10:26] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[10:26] <cafuego> apokryphos: factoids referring to vapourware aren't welcome ;-)
[10:27] <apokryphos> cafuego: I'm still hoping :P
[10:27] <DrSpin> why would apt be ignoring "IGN" hoary-backports ??
[10:27] <cafuego> apokryphos: I was hopeful back in 2002, but honestly...
[10:28] <apokryphos> cafuego: when was 0.16 released?
[10:28] <cafuego> 1998 or something
[10:28] <apokryphos> cafuego: :-O. Didn't know it was so long ago. Are they perfectionists or is it genuinely never ready?
[10:28] <ofer0> Seveas, ok i copied it by hand, here it is:
[10:28] <iiiears> Do the developers know how many people are using Ubuntu everyday?   - do they record the ntp check on boot up?
[10:28] <apokryphos> that's worse than Dabian 8)
[10:29] <hardw1re> my kernel wont compile :(
[10:29] <Nermal> hardw1re, why are you compiling a kernel ?
[10:29] <Cyberpred> Question : is there software on ubuntu to control web access time? (internet cafe for a school)
[10:29] <ofer0> "your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. if you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installtion problem or that you may be out of diskspace. Try logging with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.
[10:29] <ofer0> and than when i click "show details" it gives me the following 2 lines:
[10:29] <Uthini-work> tahts the thing with linux
[10:30] <Uthini-work> so much stuffs to install
[10:30] <Nermal> nah
[10:30] <Uthini-work> b4 u know it ur machine is flood with garbage
[10:30] <Nermal> at least with linux its all in one place
[10:30] <Nermal> rather than on loads of different cds / websites
[10:30] <ofer0> "(gnome-session:7717):libgnomevfs-WARNING **:Unable to create ~/.gnome dir : permission denied
[10:30] <Nermal> if you don't know what you're doing however..
[10:30] <hardw1re> cause there aint a 2.6.12 available on the apt-gets :P
[10:31] <Nermal> hardw1re, why do you need 2.6.12 ?
[10:31] <ofer0> "Could not create per-user gnome conf dir `/home/ofer/.gnome` : permission denied
[10:31] <DrSpin> it seems like the backports on #969 are rather outdated
[10:31] <DrSpin> 404
[10:31] <ofer0> Seveas, thats all..
[10:31] <Nermal> ofer0, make sure your home dir has the correct permissions
[10:31] <ofer0> Nermal, did it
[10:31] <Nermal> or do chown -R ofer:users /home/ofer/
[10:31] <hardw1re> cause i want to see if it'll run things better
[10:31] <Nermal> hardw1re, I doubt it
[10:32] <PPower> Extras are down AGAIN!
[10:32] <Nermal> anything in the changelogs significant ?
[10:32] <ofer0> Nermal, did it too ..
[10:32] <ofer0> =\
[10:32] <PPower> Needs authorization for the mirrormax one
[10:32] <Nermal> ofer0, disk space ?
[10:32] <ofer0> Nermal, atleast 150GB free
[10:32] <Nermal> hmmm
[10:32] <Nermal> mounted as rw
[10:32] <Nermal> ?
[10:32] <hardw1re> cause on 2.6.11 my quickcam doesnt work, does on 2.6.10-5, but then theres a problem with the nvidia drivers on 2.6.10-5, i think :S
[10:32] <ofer0> Nermal, yeap
[10:32] <apokryphos> PPower: there's several mirrors on about?
[10:32] <Nermal> hardw1re, you could just use a breezy kernel
[10:33] <Nermal> grab the .deb and install it
[10:33] <PPower> I know but they are all out of sync and it seems the ones on the forum are not working.
[10:33] <hardw1re> hmm, thats a smart suggestion
[10:33] <ofer0> Nermal, thanx for trying :)
[10:33] <Nermal> ofer0, sorry :|
[10:33] <DrSpin> I was getting the IGN for the mirrormax one
[10:33] <ofer0> Seveas -> any idea with the new info?
[10:33] <apokryphos> PPower: you're advised to not use the forum ones
[10:34] <Yabden> skip the mirrormax one, it has been giving people troubles, especially with firefox, gaim, and gimp-data
[10:34] <PPower> Then what should I use. PlanetMirror is down
[10:34] <Yabden> whatever sources you usually use minus the mirrormax entries
[10:35] <eliphas_> hello
[10:35] <PPower> Im trying this one with large hostingspace but that doesnt seem to have j2re or whatever on it
[10:35] <eliphas_> hello
[10:35] <Yabden> yeah someone i was talking to had to download the j2re package and install it manually
[10:35] <qiu> hello
[10:35] <m0rphx> hi
[10:36] <eliphas_> I have a problem with dns
[10:36] <eliphas_> when I surf I have to surf with the ip because I browser don't resolve the ip
[10:36] <eliphas_> hostname sorry
[10:36] <Yabden> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[10:36] <nalioth> eliphas_: by chance have you been using azureus?
[10:37] <eliphas_> long time ago
[10:37] <PPower> Thanks
[10:37] <eliphas_> why ?
[10:37] <apokryphos> PPower: planet mirror one is the worst -- it's often down. I always used the mirrormax one
[10:37] <hardw1re> Nermal: having some trouble finding the kernels for breezy :S
[10:37] <nalioth> eliphas_: how long ago, and how long has your machine not been resolving hostnames?
[10:37] <PPower> But mirrormax is down. Requires autorization
[10:38] <Nermal> hardw1re, one sec
[10:38] <DrSpin> PPower: apokryphos: I have the same problem
[10:38] <PPower> I wish someone would get their act together and merge it with official
[10:39] <hardw1re> wait think i've found it Nermal
[10:39] <apokryphos> PPower: hoary-extras is illegal
[10:39] <apokryphos> or, at least it was; haven't checked it lately
[10:39] <hardw1re> in the pool folder
[10:39] <PPower> Huh?
[10:39] <PPower> How can it be
[10:39] <apokryphos> Because of some of the software it holds/held; was not legal to do so
[10:39] <eliphas_> nalioth since yesterday but I change my isp and got a routeur
[10:39] <PPower> If it was well ill be annoyed because no way am I downloading Java of sun
[10:40] <PPower> Cant they just take thoses off
[10:40] <PPower> Better not be the nvidia drivers
[10:40] <apokryphos> I don't think java is in hoary-extras anymore
[10:40] <nalioth> eliphas_: i have the same problem, and i can't figure whether it's java or azureus. what version of java are you running?
[10:40] <Yabden> that link i pasted is to java, and it works fine
[10:40] <eliphas_> no when I surf to a friend I got no problem
[10:40] <PPower> Bother
[10:40] <Nermal> hardw1re, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.12%2Flinux-image-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb&md5sum=8675219cef87d1c29108bb4bda5f5926&arch=i386&type=main
[10:40] <eliphas_> I got problem only at my place
[10:41] <PPower> Is backports OK?
[10:41] <eliphas_> and I am using bittornado with no problem
[10:41] <Nermal> hardw1re, you can use packages.ubuntu.com to find it (search for linux-image) :)
[10:41] <apokryphos> PPower: yes; it's an Ubuntu project, now.
[10:41] <eliphas_> java is in backport I think
[10:41] <eliphas_> I got java from it
[10:41] <apokryphos> eliphas_: no
[10:41] <nalioth> eliphas_: what does "surf to a friend" mean?
[10:41] <apokryphos> eliphas_: removed from that quite some time ago
[10:41] <Nermal> hardw1re, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb also works :)
[10:41] <eliphas_> surf = browsing
[10:42] <PPower> Thats odd. Extras has just come up again. And its getting w32codecs. And thats legal cause I own 95, 98 and XP
[10:42] <DrSpin> I can't donlwoad java and the only server I'm having trouble with is for hoary-extras
[10:42] <ekimus> is there a way to nice memory usage not only cpu usage? or does nice all of that for me?
[10:42] <Yabden> download java from that link i posted damnit
[10:42] <PPower> Extras is definetly up now. Try refresh synaptic
[10:43] <DrSpin> PPower: mirrormax ??
[10:43] <DrSpin> PPower: just main worked...
[10:43] <PPower> Yep. If only IRC supported picturs
[10:43] <PPower> This is restricted
[10:43] <apokryphos> I've never seen mirrormax down, really...
[10:43] <PPower> Of extras
[10:44] <PPower> Yabden: I have downloaded it now
[10:44] <PPower> :-)
[10:44] <DrSpin> I'm getting "IGN" | Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restricted Packages
[10:44] <DrSpin> That's for everything except MAIN
[10:44] <eliphas_> but my problem is odd I can browse some site but some site like google I can't manage to reach it
[10:44] <DrSpin> eliphas_: are you behind a router?
[10:44] <PPower> Right. Now just for main.
[10:44] <nalioth> eliphas_: so you can browse to your friends computer? or at your friends computer?
[10:45] <eliphas_> I have a laptop if I go to to my friend I can browse but he isusing another isp
[10:46] <eliphas_> weird
[10:46] <nalioth> eliphas_: yes, very weird
[10:46] <PPower> I will test main soon
[10:47] <thespiritoftal> how can i connect to an address using ssh2 protocol?
[10:47] <esc> so, should I upgrade my kernel?
[10:47] <nalioth> thespiritoftal: ssh <address>
[10:48] <DrSpin> PPower: now main won't work -- I can browse it via normal HTTP --
[10:48] <DrSpin> :/ ??
[10:48] <PPower> Where is msstcorefonts from
[10:48] <nalioth> eliphas_: if your situation is anything like mine, it should correct itself within a week
[10:49] <Ng> thespiritoftal: as nalioth says, or -2 if you really want to force it
[10:50] <kreep-> hi, is there a way i can browse ubuntu packages with a browser, something like packages.debian.org
[10:50] <kreep-> oh wait, nevermind taht
[10:50] <Ng> kreep-: packages.ubuntu.com ;)
[10:50] <hardw1re> Nermal: hmm theres linux-images, but what about linux-headers?
[10:50] <churd-tzu> hey guys
[10:51] <kreep-> thabks Ng, today i`m just plain stupid
[10:51] <n> Anyone here know how to use d4x? I just left my PC on all night to download a few .isos and it says all 3 are 100% done but the files are nowhere to be found!
[10:51] <churd-tzu> I installed ubuntu, then installed windows on another partition... any idea how to get grub back on?
[10:51] <Ng> hehe
[10:51] <DrSpin> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras/main universe multiverse restricted
[10:51] <DrSpin> LOL oops
[10:51] <nalioth> churd-tzu: there is an article on the wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <eliphas_> like from my home if I go to google.com I got a connection refuse but i go to http://www.ubuntu.com it works
[10:51] <Yabden> churd-tzu http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation
[10:51] <Seveas> churd-tzu, wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:52] <churd-tzu> w00t
[10:52] <Seveas> Yabden, please don't advise ubuntuguide crud
[10:52] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[10:52] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[10:52] <Yabden> it works fine
[10:52] <Yabden> NEVER
[10:52] <robertbb> haha
[10:52] <saintFrance> hello guys! its been awhile
[10:52] <Seveas> Yabden, ubuntuguide is crap
[10:52] <Yabden> it is a decent resource
[10:52] <Seveas> poeple in here spent countless hours solving problems caused by it
[10:52] <nalioth> churd-tzu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:52] <Seveas> people*
[10:53] <Yabden> ill be more careful recommending it, but i know for a fact that what i linked works
[10:53] <saintFrance> hey guys how do i get linux to read the other drives i have and the my other operating system files and stuff
[10:53] <Nermal> hardw1re, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-headers-2.6.12-7-686_2.6.12-7.11_i386.deb
[10:53] <Nermal> same dir.. don't be lazy :)
[10:53] <PPower> Extras down again
[10:53] <PPower> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release.gpg [189B] 
[10:53] <PPower> Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release.gpg [189B] 
[10:53] <PPower> Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg [189B] 
[10:53] <PPower> Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release [16.9kB] 
[10:53] <PPower> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release
[10:53] <PPower> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release
[10:53] <PPower> Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages
[10:53] <Seveas> FOOL
[10:53] <Seveas> never paste in here
[10:53] <Nermal> lol
[10:53] <Seveas> you know that...
[10:53] <Yabden> saintFrance you need to edit /etc/fstab
[10:54] <saintFrance> how do i do that?
[10:54] <nalioth> saintFrance: read your private msgs
[10:54] <Seveas> saintFrance, windows/mac drives?
[10:54] <saintFrance> oh lol
[10:54] <Yabden> i already know how to mount drives damnit i dont need queries about it
[10:54] <Kyynara> My problem is this: I can't alt+tab away from a game (quake2) for some reason, but is it possible to start the game in another "X window" so that I can ctrl+alt+FX between the two X clients?
[10:55] <jebem> suomalaisia?
[10:55] <Seveas> Kyynara, you can use applications -> system tools -> new login to get that extra X
[10:56] <Kyynara> thanks
[10:56] <ali_> hi there i want to take the screen shots of my ubuntu installation ? is it possible ?
[10:56] <Seveas> ali_, yes
[10:56] <ali_> anybody have used qemu ? will it work to install ? over linux ?
[10:56] <Seveas> use the prt.scr button :)
[10:56] <Ng> I'm told qemu is goood enough
[10:56] <Seveas> !quemu
[10:56] <ubotu> Seveas: What?
[10:56] <Seveas> !qemu
[10:56] <ubotu> from memory, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[10:56] <Ng> someone asked a similar question on a lug ml yesterday ;)
[10:56] <Seveas> ^-- ali_
[10:57] <Kromonos|aFk> How can I install mp3?
[10:57] <Seveas> !mp3
[10:57] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:57] <Kromonos|aFk> thx
[10:57] <ali_> but Seveas how to take the shots
[10:57] <neo78> ahoy everyboydy!
[10:57] <Seveas> use the prt.scr button :)
[10:57] <ali_> Seveas, when i am installing /
[10:57] <ofer0> i have already take pictures of all ubuntu installtion screens. watch it here: http://www.imc-il.com/david/Project
[10:57] <neo78> my 2nd day of ubuntu...
[10:57] <Seveas> ali_, oh, you mean during install
[10:58] <ofer0> Soon will be translated to english.
[10:58] <ali_> Seveas how to save the pic ?
[10:58] <neo78> maybe i should write a blog
[10:58] <Seveas> in that case: no
[10:58] <ali_> yep
[10:58] <Kromonos|aFk> Why can't I install the streamripper?
[10:58] <DrSpin> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[10:58] <DrSpin> :/
[10:58] <neo78> anyways, how do i raise my screen resolution ?
[10:58] <ali_> i need to take pics of installation ? any way anyone knows ?
[10:58] <Seveas> DrSpin, grab a java deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:58] <neo78> (highest option i'm given is 1024 x 768)
[10:58] <Seveas> ali_, digital camera, photograph your screen :)
[10:58] <Yabden> neo78 do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:59] <Wombat> hello
[10:59] <ali_> i guess if you qemu can imulate the installation will be better
[10:59] <DrSpin> neo78: #sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:59] <Seveas> ofer0, how did you take these shots?
[10:59] <ali_> anyone have used qemu ?
[10:59] <nalioth> Seveas: you've been a busy little beaver
[11:00] <Danny|> Anyone here from Croatia? ^^
[11:00] <Wombat> I'm not from Croatia
[11:00] <Danny|> :|
[11:01] <neo78> i have a friend from croatia
[11:01] <Kromonos|aFk> What the fuck is going on there *argh*
[11:01] <thongta> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[11:01] <thongta> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[11:01] <thongta> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[11:01] <thongta> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[11:01] <thongta> ## repository.
[11:01] <Kromonos|aFk> No mpeg streaming
[11:01] <thongta> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[11:01] <thongta> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[11:01] <thongta> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[11:01] <Kromonos|aFk> no mp3 playing
[11:01] <apokryphos> thongta: don't paste in here
[11:01] <thongta> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[11:01] <thongta> ## team.
[11:01] <Danny|> neo78, doesnt help me much ^^ I'm asking due to probs with getting the croatian keyboard layout to work
[11:01] <Kromonos|aFk> *grml*
[11:01] <neo78> flooding...
[11:01] <thongta> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:01] <apokryphos> gah
[11:01] <thongta> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:01] <thongta> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[11:01] <thongta> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted
[11:01] <nalioth> Seveas: you must have blinked
[11:02] <thongta> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[11:02] <thongta> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[11:02] <thongta> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse
[11:02] <Seveas> jeez
[11:02] <neo78> *sigh* thanks Seveas
[11:02] <Seveas> i am away for 3 seconds
[11:02] <Wombat> whew
[11:02] <Seveas> thongta, get out, get some netiquette and don't come back before reading the channel topic
[11:02] <saintFrance> nalioth: how do i run the winmac_fstab
[11:03] <neo78> ./winmac_fstab methinks
[11:03] <nalioth> saintFrance: read the instructions at the top of it (it opens in a text editor)
[11:03] <Seveas> saintFrance, sudo bash winmac_fstab
[11:03] <apokryphos> Seveas: hi, did you delete the E factoid?
[11:03] <saintFrance> yes but it says
[11:03] <neo78> aah of course
[11:03] <saintFrance> it doesnt exist
[11:03] <saintFrance> in that folder
[11:03] <neo78> my memory doesn't last very long...
[11:03] <saintFrance> or something
[11:03] <Seveas> apokryphos, not that I can remember
[11:03] <nalioth> saintFrance: you have to execute things not in your $PATH with a ./  before the executable
[11:04] <apokryphos> ok
[11:04] <neo78> Yabden, i get a message saying xserver-org is not installed
[11:04] <Wombat> Where should I ask gtkmm questions? I am a computer programmer.
[11:04] <thongta1> hi all
[11:04] <thongta1> i'm real sorry
[11:05] <thongta1> i have mistake about my paste
[11:05] <apokryphos> thongta1: for long pieces of text, use a pastebin
[11:05] <Seveas> ban avoiding is a good way to get a permanent ban
[11:06] <ofer0> Seveas, i take these shots with KQemu
[11:06] <ofer0> you can take them if you want, GPL...
[11:06] <ofer0> GFDL
[11:07] <ali_> i am also using kubuntu
[11:07] <ali_> desktop on my ubuntu
[11:07] <saintFrance> guys it keeps saying "no such file or directory"
[11:07] <neo78> how do i raise the resolution on ubuntu (i can only push it up as far as 1024x768)
[11:07] <ofer0> !google kqemu
[11:07] <ubotu> ofer0: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:07] <nalioth> saintFrance: when you do "ls winmac*" what does it tell you?
[11:08] <Yabden> neo78 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:08] <Wombat> Any pointers on Gnome programming in C++? Where should I ask questions about gtkmm?
[11:08] <iiiears> Heya Seveas! - Thanks again.
[11:08] <saintFrance> i keep getting no such file or directory
[11:09] <nalioth> saintFrance: answer my last question, please
[11:09] <saintFrance> thats what it said
[11:09] <nalioth> saintFrance: then u need to find where you put it
[11:09] <tenco> i have problems setting up wpa_supplicant
[11:10] <tenco> i always get: Disconnect event - remove keys
[11:10] <saintFrance> k
[11:10] <saintFrance> got it sorry
[11:10] <saintFrance> haha
[11:10] <tenco> ?
[11:10] <hans__> !java
[11:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:11] <tenco> i have problems setting up wpa_supplicant
[11:12] <neo78> Yabden, thanks, i typed it in wrong the first time
[11:12] <NoHope> hello all
[11:13] <concept10> anyone with NFS experience
[11:13] <lemonsforbreakfa> install boot problems, any help appreciated
[11:13] <lemonsforbreakfa> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59723
[11:14] <neo78> Yabden, damnit, that's a complicated program....
[11:14] <neo78> i just wanna change my res!!!
[11:14] <churd-tzu> I tried doing the manual grub setup, but it told me I didn't have /boot/grub/stage2
[11:14] <neo78> not autodetect my mouse!
[11:14] <saintFrance> where can i get codecs/decoders for the media player?
[11:14] <concept10> !restricted
[11:14] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:16] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, have suggestion for you
[11:16] <lemonsforbreakfa> yes?
[11:16] <concept10> make three partitions on that drive
[11:17] <concept10> windows xp, NTFS... linux, ext3 ... share partition fat32
[11:17] <durt> night all - almost time to wake up :(
[11:17] <concept10> install windows first.
[11:18] <ofer0> its 12:20:18 here
[11:18] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, what size harddisc is it?
[11:18] <lemonsforbreakfa> 160GB
[11:19] <concept10> well, divide accordingly, but thats the path I would take.
[11:19] <concept10> works for me.
[11:20] <lemonsforbreakfa> that's what I'm trying at.  Ubuntu installation with Windows already there has issues
[11:20] <concept10> the only difference, I have a external USB drive, 80 gigs, with two partitions ext3 and fat32
[11:20] <wahlau> anyone done Gnome reinstallation b4?
[11:21] <ali_> what do you want to know
[11:21] <ali_> just upgrade
[11:21] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, if you install windows after installing ubuntu, you will not be able to boot it.  Windows overwrites the MBR
[11:22] <ali_> whalau use apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[11:22] <wahlau> very good
[11:22] <ali_> apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[11:22] <lemonsforbreakfa> I've found that much on my own, but GRUB and LILO won't install when an NTFS partition is there
[11:22] <wahlau> my gnome is crashing everytime i login
[11:22] <ali_> what is the error
[11:22] <wahlau> no idea
[11:22] <wahlau> i can't even open Terminal
[11:23] <wahlau> keep giving this dialog where i can restart, close or inform developer
[11:23] <concept10> how many drives do you have, just one?
[11:23] <lemonsforbreakfa> yes
[11:23] <ali_> try resinstall ;) good luck
[11:23] <concept10> are you trying to install GRUB or LILO   OR   GRUB and LILO
[11:24] <concept10> or?
[11:24] <wahlau> ali_: thans
[11:24] <lemonsforbreakfa> or
[11:24] <ali_> yw
[11:24] <ali_> ;)
[11:24] <wahlau> better than reinstall hoary :)
[11:24] <lemonsforbreakfa> as in they both fail
[11:25] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, I dont see what the problem could be, maybe if your trying to install on a fat32 system.
[11:25] <concept10> were you trying to install ubunu on a fat32 system?
[11:25] <HateSpawn> hey anyway to run geexbox with this
[11:26] <lemonsforbreakfa> no.  I installed Ubuntu to an ext3 partition.
[11:26] <lemonsforbreakfa> I'll print this all out and try it again.  I just hope Windows stays bootable this time
[11:27] <HateSpawn> with the live cd how do i get to the windows partitions?
[11:27] <Seveas> HateSpawn: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:27] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, partition drives as you like first, install windows, install ubuntu and use grub
[11:28] <lemonsforbreakfa> should the non-NTFS drives be formatted prior to Windows install?
[11:28] <cantrel29> hello, how can I reset the system time.
[11:28] <concept10> lemonsforbreakfa, you could do that.
[11:28] <Seveas> lemonsforbreakfa, the installer can format them too
[11:29] <wahlau> btw, anyway i can upgrade gnome instead of using the current Ubuntu one?
[11:29] <ubuntu_> heloo
[11:29] <concept10> Seveas, do you know how to setup an NFS client?
[11:29] <ubuntu_> what up
[11:29] <Seveas> wahlau, that's not recommended
[11:29] <lemonsforbreakfa> Saveas, it won't partition FAT32 on my machine
[11:29] <Seveas> concept10, there's no need to set it up
[11:29] <wahlau> Seveas: ok, just wondering
[11:29] <Seveas> just mount nfs partitions :)
[11:29] <Wizzo> Can someone please help, everytime I install Ubuntu on my other computer, when rebooting I get Grub Error 18.
[11:29] <wahlau> before i give up and turn to Sarge
[11:29] <wahlau> :D
[11:29] <Wizzo> It has only started happening in the new version of Ubuntu.
[11:29] <Wizzo> And Grub has also worked on any distro.
[11:30] <HateSpawn> winmac_fstab just loads in gedit
[11:30] <lemonsforbreakfa> nfs?
[11:30] <concept10> Seveas,  I am trying to get NFS working, im trying to mount a directory on my sarge server, but I think my client isnt setup right. I used this: sudo mount 192.168.2.31:/mnt/jukebox /media/nfs/ and got this: mount: RPC: Program not registered
[11:30] <HateSpawn> where might i place it
[11:30] <kemik> concept10:  get nfs-common on client ?
[11:30] <ubuntu> after booting up in kubuntu live, i much prefer the gnome ubuntu
[11:30] <Wizzo> can anyone help?
[11:30] <Wizzo> please.
[11:31] <kemik> !anyone
[11:31] <Wizzo> I currently have no os on either computer as Windows got some damn virus (typical).
[11:31] <ubotu> well, anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:31] <HateSpawn> winmac_fstab where do i save it to?
[11:31] <concept10> kemik, I have it already. thats why I dont understand the error
[11:31] <kemik> HateSpawn:  anywhere.. doesnt matter
[11:32] <kemik> concept10:  portmap ?
[11:32] <HateSpawn> kemik then restart the live cd?
[11:32] <concept10> kemik, yep, and running.
[11:32] <kemik> concept10:  rpc.statd ?
[11:32] <Wizzo> Please, I can't stand using a LiveCD...
[11:32] <cantrel29> hello, my system time is set to utc but I appear to be a day out. how do I synch time from the command line?
[11:32] <kemik> HateSpawn:  oh, a livecd.. i dunno =)
[11:32] <Wizzo> I really don't feel like a lecture on how to sask questions.
[11:32] <Wizzo> ask, even.
[11:32] <concept10> kemik, yep, running.
[11:33] <HateSpawn> people slow down,wait they'll get to u
[11:33] <kemik> Wizzo:  uhm.. grub error 18? never heard of :/
[11:33] <aleitner> does anybody know which xorg version will be shipped with breezy?
[11:33] <Wizzo> It's happened everytime I've tried installing the new version of ubuntu on that computer.
[11:33] <concept10> aleitner, the SUPER version
[11:34] <fabbione> aleitner: 6.9/7.0
[11:34] <aleitner> concept10: hmmm (; does that one have a number?
[11:34] <concept10> aleitner, seriously, maybe you could check packages.ubuntu.org
[11:34] <kemik> Wizzo:  http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[11:34] <aleitner> fabbione: aren't those two versions?
[11:34] <Wizzo> Thanks.
[11:34] <aleitner> concept10: packages says 6.8, but somehow I doubt that...
[11:34] <fabbione> aleitner: it means either 6.9 or 7.0
[11:35] <concept10> kemik, any more ideas?
[11:35] <aleitner> fabbione: ahh, so it is not decided yet?
[11:35] <fabbione> the server is still at 6.8.2
[11:35] <fabbione> all the other stuff is already 6.9/7.0
[11:35] <kemik> concept10:  the server is ssetup correctly ?
[11:35] <fabbione> aleitner: no, it's a bit different and more complex to explain
[11:35] <aleitner> fabbione: interesting. yes it seems it is not so trivial indeed (;
[11:35] <Wizzo> Ok I see the problem, Ubuntu put the boot in too far away from the start of the drive...
[11:36] <Wizzo> Can I make a custom partition and get ubuntu to install into it?
[11:36] <aleitner> fabbione: do you happen to know whether the r300 3d driver (open source) will make it in?
[11:36] <Wizzo> And if so, how large would the partition need to be?
[11:36] <aleitner> fabbione: thats the radeon driver for newer radeon cards...
[11:36] <fabbione> aleitner: no idea.. hounestly.. it seems it will, but i can't be sure
[11:36] <srijith> Wizzo, make /boot as first partition and restrict it to 100MB or so
[11:36] <Wizzo> Ok, thanks very much.
[11:36] <kemik> concept10:  http://www.freebsddiary.org/nfs-portmap.php
[11:37] <aleitner> fabbione: cool. thanks anyway. i guess i will have to wait and see...
[11:37] <Wizzo> I'll get back to you later if it works. :)
[11:37] <srijith> but it is strange cos I though bootloaders no longer had problems like these...
[11:37] <concept10> kemik, bsddiary, heh..
[11:37] <kemik> concept10:  yeah ;)
[11:38] <aleitner> ok, thanks and cu
[11:38] <bobmarley> hey
[11:38] <frisbebo1> where is the settings for if i wanne add a second g-card?
[11:38] <kemik> concept10:  dont copy-paste the stuff, just adapt it to your install.. the same procedure could work slightly adapted
[11:38] <concept10> kemik, it should be almost the same almost on any *nix box
[11:38] <frisbebo1> in gnome?
[11:39] <HateSpawn> brb
[11:39] <HateSpawn> wait
[11:39] <kemik> concept10:  seem like thay just restart the services on the server and tries mounting again on the client
[11:39] <kemik> concept10:  im running NFS too, (ubuntu client, debian server)
[11:40] <frisbebo1> any1 running ubuntu with two screens/g-cards?
[11:40] <HateSpawn> \whats the MIN requierments HD space for ubutu? and will it Use a Boot vloader and find My GEEXBOX ,And Windows  and Let me Choose Them
[11:40] <blaq> hey guys, is there a way for me to place a smb share into /etc/fstab through a graphical interface?
[11:41] <kemik> HateSpawn:  im not sure about the "official" requirements, but i'd say around 3gb... but im not sure ;)
[11:41] <blaq> when i used to use mandrake, it had a module in its system configuration and maintenance utility that would provide me with a nice graphical interface to /etc/fstab.conf and i was wondering if (k)ubuntu had the same
[11:41] <HateSpawn> 3 gigers eh
[11:41] <HateSpawn> k
[11:41] <frisbebo1> blaq: gedit /etc/fstab rather
[11:41] <kemik> blaq:  possibly, but you can do it with a simple texteditor too
[11:41] <HateSpawn> laters and thanks
[11:41] <blaq> yeah but it was a huge pain in the arse to get all the right settings
[11:42] <blaq> i'd love if there was some option somewhere where i can right click something and click mount
[11:42] <neo78> hello again...
[11:42] <blaq> remote:/ and smb:// just don't work for most applications
[11:42] <neo78> how do i import EVERYTHING from Outlook into Evolution?
[11:43] <neo78> most articles only seem to explain importing mail messages
[11:43] <neo78> what about calendar, contacts, memos, task list etc?
[11:44] <Madpilot> !list
[11:44] <ubotu> hmm... list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:44] <concept10> kemik, i restarted the server on the sarge box and now it says permission denied.  could you post an example from /etc/export?
[11:45] <setepo> is easy to install ubuntu in a pc with sata disks?
[11:46] <tenco_> the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\
[11:46] <concept10> neo78, from what I know, you must export everything individually
[11:46] <nalioth> setepo: it was cut-and-dried on my powermac with sata disks
[11:47] <Whistler> hi
[11:47] <Whistler> is it possible to upgrade to breezy?
[11:47] <Whistler> or should i do fresh install
[11:47] <Whistler> ?
[11:47] <kemik> concept10:   /share/directory      boxthatcanmountIP#(options)
[11:47] <nalioth> Whistler: if you want a headache, or two
[11:47] <Seveas> it's possible to upgrade
[11:47] <Seveas> but not advised to do it already
[11:47] <Whistler> hm.
[11:48] <concept10> kemik, /mnt/jukebox 192.168.2.31(rw,root_squash,insecure)
[11:48] <tenco_> no one has wpa running here? :\
[11:48] <Whistler> what a heck ill wait a few weeks
[11:48] <concept10> kemik, is that incorrect?
[11:48] <kemik> concept10:  try removing root_squash,insecure
[11:48] <kemik> concept10:  to try
[11:50] <wahlau> re
[11:51] <wahlau> i think i figured out what's wrong
[11:51] <concept10> kemik, BTW - I used this page: http://www.metaconsultancy.com/whitepapers/nfs.htm
[11:51] <neo78> tenco, i have a little bit of experience with WPA
[11:52] <wahlau> nothing was wrong with gnome, but it was due to the updated SCIM
[11:53] <fredforfaen> whats SCIM?
[11:53] <neo78> what's a good graphical DC++ client for ubuntu?
[11:53] <goldfish> google it.
[11:54] <ilba7r> anyone know what is the gam_server and why it is eating up my cpu?
[11:54] <icewt> neo78, DC++ under wine
[11:54] <m0rphx> scim is a input method for x, to enter chinese for example
[11:54] <ilba7r> !gam_server
[11:54] <ubotu> ilba7r: Syntax error in line 1
[11:54] <kemik> concept10:  mmh, that tutorial looks about right.. (i only skimmed it, but no glaring errors)
[11:54] <kemik> concept10:  still no luck ?
[11:54] <fredforfaen> !gam
[11:54] <ubotu> fredforfaen: Are you on ritalin?
[11:54] <m0rphx> ilba7r: gam_server watches your harddrive for changes
[11:55] <kemik> neo78:  DC++ for linux
[11:55] <m0rphx> nautilus uses it to update the desktop
[11:55] <kemik> !dcpp
[11:55] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, kemik
[11:55] <kemik> ubotu dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084
[11:55] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[11:55] <goldfish> apt-cache search dc++
[11:56] <ilba7r> thanx mOrphx but why it is eating my cpu & am not using nautilus am using enlightenment at the moment
[11:56] <kemik> ubotu no dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 , a porting of the popular DC++ client
[11:56] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[11:57] <goldfish> ubotu: forget dcpp
[11:57] <ubotu> i forgot dcpp, goldfish
[11:57] <kemik> goldfish:   ?
[11:57] <goldfish> kemik:
[11:58] <kemik> goldfish:  care  to explain why you did that ?
[11:59] <goldfish> kemik: Because it's useless information.
[11:59] <goldfish> And i'm bored.
[11:59] <kemik> is it really useless? why so ?
[12:00] <kemik> and "bored" is hardly justification for anything
[12:00] <goldfish> It is.
[12:00] <kemik> if you're "bored" mayb you should not be here?
[12:00] <goldfish> kemik: press up 5 times and put it back in.
[12:00] <kemik> why dont YOU do it ?
[12:00] <kemik> and stop trolling
[12:00] <ilba7r> !info dnotify
[12:00] <ubotu> dnotify: (Execute a command when the contents of a directory change), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.18.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 120 kB
[12:01] <ilba7r> !info gam_server
[12:01] <kemik> ubotu dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 , a porting of the popular DC++ client
[12:01] <_Devin_> when will be "Breezy RC1" released?
[12:01] <ubotu> kemik: okay
[12:03] <Adross> my comp seems to be maxxing out at idle. Two things, this only started today, and system monitor won'
[12:03] <Adross> t tell me whats using it
[12:04] <tvo> _Devin_, October 6th, ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule )
[12:04] <kemik> Adross:  try "top" from a commandline
[12:05] <Adross> kemik: everything's at 0, except for a few, which are below 2%, which certainly doesn't account for...this
[12:05] <Seveas> goldfish: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[12:05] <goldfish> Ok.
[12:05] <Adross> ah, never mind, killed beagle seemed to fix it
[12:05] <Adross> *killing
[12:06] <Seveas> and NEVER just delete things fromm ubotu...
[12:06] <goldfish> Ok/
[12:06] <Adross> thanks anyway everyone
[12:08] <xenomeliteforce> hi all. Anyone got a Trust Spacecam running? It only works with Video 4 Linux 2 (V4L2) for me, but AMSN, ... only use V4L :-/
[12:08] <xenomeliteforce> it's a Spacecam 120
[12:08] <DjKritical-> I'm getting an error while trying to install ubuntu for the first time.... dpkg error processing linux-restricted-modules - dependancy problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:10] <DjKritical-> anyone know why that might happen?
[12:11] <DjKritical-> any more importantly.. should I stop the installation?
[12:12] <Seveas> DjKritical-, whoah, which version is that?
[12:13] <DjKritical-> 5.04 I think
[12:13] <Seveas> official CD or home-baked?
[12:13] <DjKritical-> I downloaded it last night from the main site
[12:13] <DjKritical-> burnt it just now
[12:13] <DjKritical-> are you thinking currupted Image?
[12:14] <Wizzo> It worked.
[12:14] <Wizzo> Thanks for your help.
[12:15] <tenco_> the wpa howto on the wiki doesnt work - i get always the same error :-\
[12:16] <cas> hi, I've a problem when logging into my breezy pc. It takes almost three minutes before i'm in and then i have an error that my XKB configuration is wrong.
[12:16] <cas> can anyone tell me what could be wrong?
[12:17] <DjKritical-> okay.. I'm going to re-download ubuntu =(
[12:17] <twilight> cas, search in bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <twilight> it's a known problem
[12:18] <cas> tnx twilight found it
[12:18] <Seveas> DjKritical-, before burning verify the md5sum of the iso
[12:18] <Seveas> and burn at low speed
[12:18] <cyphase> DjKritical, try using Graveman
[12:18] <cyphase> better then the nautilus burning
[12:21] <DjKritical-> I downloaded the ISO in windows... I've never checked an MD5 sum before also..
[12:21] <cantrel29> hello, I would like to know how to reset my system clock from the command line.  Can anyone help?
[12:22] <cas> cantrel29: man date
[12:23] <otep> ei does anyone ever encounter this:
[12:23] <cantrel29> cas: right, but I thought the clock was supposed to be synched with a date server. so how can you force it to resynch?
[12:23] <otep> error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[12:24] <ali_> how to install from hard disk
[12:25] <cas> cantrel29: sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart
[12:25] <DjKritical> Can anyone tell me how to do an md5 check of the ubunti iso file in windows?
[12:25] <ali_> can anyone tell me how to install from the hard disk
[12:26] <cantrel29> cas: thankyou very much. that worked a charm!
[12:26] <ali_> i have the iso on my fat32 partition what is the possible way to access it and insall from the iso image ?
[12:26] <cas> DjKritical: there are many programs for that.
[12:26] <cas> DjKritical: http://www.fastsum.com/ was the first hit in google ;)
[12:27] <lemonsforbreakfa> http://wxchecksums.sourceforge.net/ from The Source
[12:28] <ali_> is there any possible floppy to boot because i tried to create a folder for boot and use grub for dos but that failed
[12:29] <lemonsforbreakfa> does anyone know of a program to format FAT32 partitions >32GB?
[12:29] <otep> hmmm
[12:29] <liable> um, isnt the limit on file size, not partition?
[12:30] <kemik> both
[12:30] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  FAT32 isnt capped on 32gb, only in windows paritioning
[12:30] <liable> hmm, was sure I had a 40G one at some stage..
[12:30] <otep> ei does anyone ever encounter this:
[12:30] <otep> error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[12:30] <lemonsforbreakfa> in FAT32 files have to be <4GiB and partitions have to be <2TiB
[12:30] <kemik> liable:  that is correct, the limit is far higher than 32gb
[12:30] <lemonsforbreakfa> I know it's only capped in windows.  I need a program to do it
[12:31] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  yup. i think Partition MAgic will do it for you
[12:31] <ali_> is there a way to install from image on the ?
[12:31] <liable> fdisk....
[12:31] <ali_> hard drive
[12:31] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  or any linux tool
[12:31] <lemonsforbreakfa> Ubuntu install fails to format it
[12:31] <kemik> ali_:  burn the image to a cd and boot?
[12:31] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  try using a livecd like knoppix perhaps ?
[12:32] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  not sure why ubuntu installer would fail
[12:32] <kemik> lemonsforbreakfa:  or use partition magic (for windows)
[12:32] <ali_> kemik, is there a way to directly install from the hard disk ?
[12:32] <lemonsforbreakfa> getting partition magic
[12:32] <ali_> i have read it is possible to install directly from the hard drive ?
[12:32] <neo78> when will we actually be able to play games on linux?
[12:33] <ali_> now can ?
[12:33] <neo78> i'm busy downloading the myst v demo
[12:33] <ali_> you dont have gnome ?
[12:34] <DjKritical> Okay I don't understand how to check an iso file against the md5sum.txt file contained inside the ubuntu iso file. I've downloaded 3 programs which make their own md5 sums... but none of them will check this existing one
[12:35] <lemonsforbreakfa> DjKritical: extract the contents to your HD then use WXChecksums for it
[12:35] <DjKritical> cheers =)
[12:35] <lemonsforbreakfa> I don't think any utilities check files inside an iso
[12:36] <DjKritical> okay because thats what I really didn't know
[12:36] <cas> lemonsforbreakfa: afaik is the checksum for the whole isofile, not it's contents
[12:36] <DjKritical> ?
[12:36] <Jowi> DjKritical: md5sum for windows with docs: http://theopencd.sunsite.dk/md5.php
[12:37] <lemonsforbreakfa> ...oh.  I thought he was talking about md5sum.txt inside the iso file, not the *.iso.md5
[12:37] <bateau> how can i fix so that my scroll wheel works on my mouse?
[12:37] <DjKritical> I am
[12:37] <lemonsforbreakfa> though at that rate why not use the *.iso.md5, fetching link
[12:37] <DjKritical> I don't have the *.iso.md5
[12:37] <DjKritical> I didn't even see a link for it
[12:38] <lemonsforbreakfa> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS
[12:38] <DjKritical> cheers
[12:38] <lemonsforbreakfa> close enough
[12:39] <Jowi> bateau: add this to your mouse "inputdevice" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[12:39] <Hello_World> Hi
[12:39] <DjKritical> hell world
[12:40] <srijith> did u mean hello? :
[12:40] <Hello_World> does anybody know if the j2re is available from the ubuntu servers?
[12:40] <srijith> :)
[12:40] <srijith> !java
[12:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:40] <DjKritical> haha yeah
[12:40] <lemonsforbreakfa> hello: you could get it from java.sun.com if you like
[12:41] <Hello_World> ty
[12:41] <bateau> Jowi: i dont have a folder named "X11" :/
[12:41] <Seveas> Hello_World, better not download from sub directly
[12:41] <bateau> oh
[12:41] <bateau> my bad
[12:41] <Seveas> use a .deb
[12:41] <Jowi> bateau: /etc/X11/xorg.conf. it's there
[12:41] <Hello_World> Hello_World, better not download from sub directly           <---i'd be to lazy anyway :D
[12:42] <Seveas> *g*
[12:43] <bateau> oki Jowi, its done :D do i need to reboot?
[12:43] <Jowi> bateau: you only need to restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:44] <bateau> oki
[12:44] <bateau> thnx :D
[12:44] <Jowi> np
[12:44] <Hello_World> startx starts X11 once again...
[12:44] <Hello_World> ctrl+alt+backspace only ends it
[12:45] <Jowi> Hello_World: it will restart by itself
[12:45] <bateau> oh, oki. so i need to save all and stuff?
[12:45] <Hello_World> y
[12:46] <Jowi> bateau: yeah, the whole X system with its application will be shutdown
[12:46] <Hello_World> Jowi: it didn't when i pressed Ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:46] <Hello_World> well, i guess u know better, i'm just a n4p :D
[12:46] <hardw1re> bah, yet another reinstall of ubuntu :(
[12:46] <Jowi> Hello_World: maybe a fluke. mine restarts fine :-)
[12:46] <hardw1re> how do i add my account into the sudoers ?
[12:47] <bimberi> hardw1re: sudo visudo
[12:47] <Jowi> hardw1re: add this line: hardwire ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:48] <hardw1re> cheers, thanks guyz :D
[12:48] <Seveas> hardw1re, or: adduser hardwie admin
[12:48] <Seveas> that adds the user to the admin group
[12:49] <Seveas> (which is in sudoers by default)
[12:49] <srijith> anyone here worked on xlib stuff ?
[12:49] <bimberi> ahh, mine is an upgraded warty... no admin group
[12:50] <Jowi> bimberi: easy to add: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[12:51] <Jowi> ...or did you mean no admin group at all?
[12:51] <bimberi> Jowi: none at all
[12:51] <Jowi> haha, ok
[12:52] <DjKritical> okay..
[12:52] <DjKritical> I just did an md5 check of my install iso
[12:52] <DjKritical> they match
[12:52] <DjKritical> so next step... try burning it at a slower speed and try again?
[12:52] <Seveas> yup
[12:52] <DjKritical> =( okey dokie
[12:52] <sweatybob> How long will ubuntu take to install?
[12:53] <ninnghizidha> about 30 miutes :-)
[12:53] <sweatybob> really?
[12:53] <Jowi> about 20-30 minutes
[12:53] <ninnghizidha> yeah, really.
[12:53] <ekimus> is there a way to remove unneeded locales?
[12:53] <sweatybob> you sure.............
[12:53] <Seveas> ekimus, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:53] <sweatybob> will it make a linux partition out of my un allocated space?
[12:53] <Seveas> sweatybob, on reasonably modern hardware 30 minutes is normal, and yes it can use unallocated space
[12:53] <Jowi> sweatybob: you can choose that option, yes
[12:53] <Wilf> it took me an hour, on a P1 166 with 64mb of ram
[12:54] <ekimus> Seveas: i thought that was only for adding locales? if i uncheck them they are automagically removed?
[12:54] <Seveas> Wilf, that's fast, server install?
[12:54] <sweatybob> Seveas: 512mb RAM. Amd Athlon Xp 2800+
[12:54] <Seveas> ekimus, yes
[12:54] <ninnghizidha> it will .. if you tell em so ... if you tell the installer to to this automatically, it will erase a whole hdd.
[12:54] <ekimus> great :)
[12:54] <Seveas> sweatybob, 20 minutes (depending on CD speed)
[12:54] <Wilf> Seveas, standard install
[12:54] <ninnghizidha> just read the text within the installer .. it is really helpfull.
[12:54] <sweatybob> omg im scared about whiping my hdd.
[12:54] <DjKritical> currently burning at 4x ;(
[12:54] <Seveas> DjKritical, *g*
[12:55] <Wilf> my P1 is giving me the shits >:(
[12:55] <ninnghizidha> dont be afraid .. the installer gives warnings whenever needed :-)
[12:55] <Seveas> slowly ubuntu is crawling on your cd :)
[12:55] <sweatybob> no im scared.
[12:55] <sweatybob> i know im going to fuck it up
[12:55] <Wilf> i got some upgrades for it today, but none of them had an effecr
[12:55] <bluesceada> how can i setup a network printer in ubuntu that my dad attached to his win-xp box ?
[12:55] <Seveas> bluesceada, system -> admin -> printing
[12:55] <sweatybob> im scared that it wil white my ntfs partiton
[12:55] <ninnghizidha> If you know about the partitions on your harddisk, you are probably not in danger of erasing something that is in use. :-)
[12:55] <Seveas> 'add printer'
[12:55] <bluesceada> Seveas: thx
[12:55] <cafuego> bluesceada: smb://user:host@sambabox/printer
[12:55] <Seveas> 'network printer' 'windows printer'
[12:55] <bluesceada> ah ok
[12:55] <DjKritical> Seveas: *g*?
[12:55] <bluesceada> sounds easy
[12:55] <cas> sweatybob: now slowly take a breath, say: "I can do this!" and put the cd in the tray
[12:56] <sweatybob> =/
[12:56] <ninnghizidha> hey, sweetbob .. wanna see screenshots of the installation-process?
[12:56] <Seveas> *g* is short for *grin*
[12:56] <sweatybob> ninnghizidha Ya.
[12:56] <DjKritical> lol
[12:56] <Hello_World> ll
[12:56] <sweatybob> give me big pointers of what NOT to push return. on.
[12:56] <ninnghizidha> just a second .. i'k looking for the URI.
[12:56] <Hello_World> the partition thingee
[12:56] <cas> sweatybob: ninnghizidha is right take some looks at the screenies
[12:56] <Seveas> Do NOT push return when it says 'do you want me to erase your disk'
[12:56] <sweatybob> it does say that tho.
[12:57] <Hello_World> not that clearly
[12:57] <Hello_World> iirc
[12:57] <sweatybob> http://imageheap.com/theheap/11928222.jpg
[12:57] <sweatybob> look. lol
[12:57] <Jowi> hahaha
[12:57] <sweatybob> Thats ubuntu desktop. lol
[12:58] <Hello_World> that is 0wnage
[12:58] <sweatybob> yup.
[12:58] <sweatybob> took me ages to install...
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> This is the Installer:
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=1
[12:58] <sweatybob> and then i got that
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> dont be afraid of it.
[12:58] <Seveas> wow, VPC really sucks :)
[12:58] <sweatybob> yea
[12:58] <sweatybob> ive done the install before
[12:58] <hardw1re> aggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh its a picture of windows!!!!!!!!!!
[12:58] <sweatybob> on my VPC
[12:58] <Seveas> hardw1re, relax :)
[12:59] <barney_> anyone using ISP internode in oz? need some help setting up apt mirrors in sources list
[12:59] <Hello_World> chill, chill
[12:59] <ninnghizidha> slide 10 could be interesting for you...
[12:59] <bimberi> phew, 106 slides!
[12:59] <ninnghizidha> .. it is about the formating-tools.
[12:59] <hardw1re> i will love the day when windows becomes obsolete... oh wait it has already :P
[12:59] <sweatybob> im trying ot find the friggin rite screenies
[12:59] <hardw1re> just a shame that linux is so complex to get things working on it :(
[01:00] <ninnghizidha> it is the blue one, with the grey window.
[01:00] <sweatybob> clem_yeats: screenshot 10. what should i select here?
[01:00] <DjKritical> hardw1re: yes thats true.. but not when you use APT-GET!
[01:00] <Hello_World> apt-get sucks
[01:00] <hardw1re> noooo
[01:00] <hardw1re> apt-get is only goood to an extent
[01:00] <sweatybob> but i dont know what partition will be listed as......
[01:00] <hardw1re> i've had to compile my own driver for my webcam
[01:01] <hardw1re> i've had to compile the cvs of aMSN for webcam support
[01:01] <cas> hardw1re: maybe you're right, but at least it is possible ;)
[01:01] <Hello_World> apt-get is good for linux-cracks-wannabe
[01:01] <Hello_World> normal people use synaptic or at least aptitude
[01:01] <hardw1re> lol
[01:01] <Hello_World> or kynaptic
[01:01] <hardw1re> thats apt-get with a gui :P
[01:01] <sweatybob> i dont know if i should use linux........... im scared.
[01:01] <DjKritical> well on my server apt-get is all I ever needed :P
[01:01] <Hello_World> i know, hardw1re
[01:02] <nerdy2> i tend to apt-get, and i'm normal :)
[01:02] <cas> sweatybob: you can only say that if you have tried it
[01:02] <srijith> I like rpm ;)
[01:02] <ninnghizidha> I was scared too, sweatybob
[01:02] <Hello_World> sweatybob: Linux won't bite u
[01:02] <Hello_World> (probably)
[01:02] <sweatybob> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=9 --------- see that one......
[01:02] <DjKritical> last time I tried rpm I got messed up with registration
[01:03] <cas> Hello_World: pinguins will
[01:03] <sweatybob> can't i.......... use partition magic.
[01:03] <ninnghizidha> ... if you know, HOW many GB the partition has, and no other partition has that size, it will be easy to identify.
[01:03] <Hello_World> they didd with L. T.
[01:03] <sweatybob> Well i've got a few gig of unallocated space im going to install ubuntu into.
[01:03] <hardw1re> good thing about linux, is if you create a seperate partition for home, and you screw up the linux os, its a doddle to reinstall and still have all your files :D
[01:03] <Hello_World> that's possible with Windows as well...
[01:03] <DjKritical> good idea
[01:03] <hardw1re> i used PM to resize my windows drives
[01:04] <ninnghizidha> i guess the installer will tell you about that space .. and i'm sure you can insert an linuxpartition into that space ...
[01:04] <sweatybob> hardw1re: yea i resized my C:\ so i can make a linux partition.
[01:04] <hardw1re> i got a 2GB swap, 2GB /boot, 15GB /, and a 30GB /home
[01:04] <ninnghizidha> partitioning took about 30 minutes at my first linux-installation .. it was frightening complex, but after 15 minutes i got it ...
[01:04] <bina> While trying to install wine, (apt-get install wine returns an error due to bad library versions) i get the error /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a is present on your system.  How to I get rid of this file?
[01:04] <bina> i fear just deleting it might break some programs
[01:04] <sweatybob> Maybe i should stick to Knoppix live CD....
[01:05] <Hello_World> knoppix sucks
[01:05] <Hello_World> sooooos sllloooooowwwwww
[01:05] <srijith> hardw1re, do you recompile kernel a lot?
[01:05] <Hello_World> -s
[01:05] <Nermal> Hello_World, running off cd ?
[01:05] <sweatybob> Hello_World yea it is slow.
[01:05] <sweatybob> off cd
[01:05] <bina> Hello_World: good for when ur computer breaks though :)
[01:05] <Hello_World> y
[01:05] <bina> or at least ur current distro
[01:06] <Hello_World> hm
[01:06] <ninnghizidha> knoppix is really ugly .. and not that funny as ubuntu
[01:06] <Nermal> oh hush
[01:06] <Nermal> all you fucking newbies
[01:06] <sweatybob> omg i dunn what to doooz!!!!!!!
[01:06] <bina> :)
[01:06] <Hello_World> what's funny about ubuntu?
[01:06] <ninnghizidha> give ubuntu a try and dare the installation .. TSCHAKA.
[01:06] <Nermal> just sod off and leave us in peace
[01:06] <DjKritical> what is knoppix built on?
[01:06] <Nermal> go on
[01:06] <Hello_World> does anybody know there i can gat hoary packages for amaroK 1.3?
[01:06] <sweatybob> google?
[01:06] <bina> DhKritical: Debian i think
[01:06] <ninnghizidha> i did an amarok.1.3-package
[01:06] <hardw1re> no, i havent been using linux that long tbh, it didnt compile in the end, i tried to get a breezy kernel, but it needed certain packages and that screwed things up, so i ended up reinstalling ubuntu, then i went to the doctors this morning
[01:06] <bina> DJKritical* sorry
[01:07] <ninnghizidha> i guess so too .. debian.
[01:07] <Hello_World> where do i find it?
[01:07] <ninnghizidha> are you able to read german?
[01:07] <Hello_World> knoppix is definately debian-based
[01:07] <Hello_World> ja
[01:07] <cafueg1> knoppix has an english version of its web pages too.
[01:07] <hardw1re> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[01:08] <hardw1re> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[01:08] <ninnghizidha> Hello_World, http://www.ubuntuusers.de/viewtopic.php?t=9135
[01:08] <cafueg1> oh look at that, those lovely OSX .dfont files work *fine* in Xorg.
[01:09] <hardw1re> anyone know if it is safe to use the latest nvidia drivers off of the nvidia site instead of using the ones that are on the apt-get, cause they're rather out dated...
[01:09] <cafueg1> hardw1re: Are they outdated or do they not work?
[01:09] <pl_ice_> hi
[01:10] <hardw1re> the old ones work.... but they're outdated
[01:10] <cafueg1> so you want to fix something that's not broken...
[01:10] <Hello_World> hardw1re: i've tried. it didn't work
[01:10] <bina> cagueg1: they dont work on my comp :'(
[01:10] <bina> grrcant type today
[01:10] <cafueg1> bina: Different issue
[01:10] <bina> i think ill just stop :)
[01:11] <bina> hehe, oh :P
[01:11] <Hello_World> u know, i still use Forceware 44.03 on windows
[01:11] <hardw1re> the 7676 worked on mine... but i;ve been having issues with hl2 / css
[01:11] <Hello_World> an everything works fine
[01:11] <hardw1re> lol
[01:11] <hardw1re> what gfx card u got?
[01:11] <Hello_World> Ti 4200
[01:11] <hardw1re> yeah
[01:11] <hardw1re> you dont want the latest then
[01:11] <Hello_World> ??
[01:11] <hardw1re> dont go any higher than 44.xx tbh with a GeForce 4 card
[01:12] <ubuntu> bom dia !!!!
[01:12] <Hello_World> nvdia keeps telling me the latest drivers are the best 1s
[01:12] <cafueg1> !pt
[01:12] <ubotu> cafueg1: Are you on ritalin?
[01:12] <cafueg1> !br
[01:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[01:12] <bina> hardw1re: how do you check the version? maybe thats why mine isnt working
[01:12] <hardw1re> the latest drivers are mainly aimed towards the GeForce FX and Gefore 6/7xxx range
[01:12] <Hello_World> yeah
[01:12] <Hello_World> but they should at least *work*
[01:12] <hardw1re> (Kernel):[Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic x86_64]  (Uptime):[1:39]  (Load):[0.11]  (CPUCount):[1]  (Model):[AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+]  (Clock):[1872.190MHz]  (Cache):[512 KB]  (Bogomips):[3710.97]  (Mem):[342/1023M]  (Total Space):[506.4G]  (Processes):[81] 
[01:12] <cafueg1> bina: dpkg -l nvidia-glx
[01:12] <Hello_World> and they don't
[01:12] <hardw1re> hmmm....
[01:13] <cafueg1> hardw1re: Do you need to do that?
[01:13] <Hello_World> they give me bluescreens
[01:13] <bina> cafueg1: thanks
[01:13] <hardw1re> (Graphics):[PCI device 10de:0045 (nVidia Corporation) (rev 161)]  (XFree86):[]  (Res):[1920x1200]  (Bits):[24] 
[01:13] <hardw1re> doesnt give the details of my card...
[01:13] <bina> wow that was crazy
[01:13] <cafueg1> hardw1re: Can you please make your script not spam the channel?
[01:13] <hardw1re> spam?
[01:13] <hardw1re> you call 1 line of text spam?
[01:14] <cafueg1> hardw1re: I do if it's script generatyed irrelevant cruft, yes.
[01:14] <hardw1re> what country are you from?
[01:14] <Ng> hardw1re: those kinds of scripts annoy people on IRC because otherwise you end up with everyone doing them and "I am currently listening to: SomeRandomRubbish.mp3" scripts ;)
[01:14] <athlon> !id
[01:14] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, athlon
[01:14] <cafueg1> hardw1re: That makes it not only pam, but also againt channel rules.
[01:14] <Hello_World> hardw1re: if that's no spam, what is?
[01:15] <hardw1re> omg
[01:15] <athlon> !de
[01:15] <ubotu> from memory, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[01:15] <cafueg1> (Kenrel): [Cafuego 2.1]  (Penis): [15 foot]  ... etc
[01:15] <hardw1re> *this doesnt work on my system* why do you want to use it on yours... etc. etc etc, cause a) i have a 6800GT, and b) im on an AMD 64 (x86_64 system) as shown by the data that i pasted above!
[01:16] <cafueg1> hardw1re: So if you'd said "athlon64 with a GT6800" you'd have been concise.
[01:16] <dbee> Does anyone know how I can get my hands on a libc library that can be used to install j2re ????
[01:17] <cafueg1> anyway, I don't make the rules here, I'
[01:17] <cafueg1> m just letting you know
[01:17] <DjKritical> Okay I'm going to try install again... this time the cd was burnt at 4x speed... wish me luck :D
[01:18] <hardw1re> no, cause linux isnt like that windows is :P in linux u need to be more specific about the actual hardware and software of your pc :P
[01:18] <cafueg1> hardw1re: The amount of disk space, the amount of ram, the uptime, the size of your penis are all COMPLETELY irrelevant. a libc6 and/or xorg version MAY have helped, but I didn't see those.
[01:19] <hardw1re> oh go eat some pies or summit im busy updating
[01:19] <uthini> !windowsdrives
[01:19] <ubotu> from memory, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[01:19] <webtoe> hmmmm i looove pies
[01:19] <Kromonos> re
[01:19] <liable> wenas!
[01:19] <bimberi> dbee: there are issues with the jre in hoary-extras
[01:19] <cafueg1> Yes, pretend you don't know what I mena. That's so useful.
[01:20] <webtoe> bimberi: what issues?
[01:20] <bimberi> dbee: There are some better packages available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:20] <liable> wenas!
[01:20] <Kromonos> when I close the screen of my laptop an open it again, I just see a black screen
[01:20] <Ng> there are too many repositories ;(
[01:20] <bimberi> webtoe: libc6 dependency issues
[01:20] <Ng> I was hoping this wasn't going to end up like fedora, but it has ;)
[01:20] <Kromonos> same when I change to tty1 or so and then back to tty7
[01:20] <hardw1re> i have a degree in computer engineering, do you think i really wanna sit here while some nerd has ago about a little bit of text?
[01:21] <Ng> hardw1re: you could just respect the way it works and stop whinging? ;)
[01:21] <liable> oooh, a degree..
[01:21] <cafueg1> hardw1re: The issue is that you're needlessly spamming the channel with script output. This is against channel rules. Consider yourself informed.
[01:21] <hardw1re> omg... im not the one whinging, im just arguing a point about a bit of text
[01:21] <cafueg1> hardw1re: if you disagree, take it up with an op.
[01:22] <hardw1re> omg this isnt support this is bugger off with telling us your system hardware and yoru fricking problems
[01:22] <Kromonos> where is my problem
[01:22] <Kromonos> ?
[01:22] <cafueg1> if you'd rather do that, feel free too.
[01:22] <hardw1re> thats what i did
[01:22] <hardw1re> and you moaned
[01:22] <cafueg1> I meant the "bugger off" part.
[01:23] <webtoe> bimberi: You get an error with a programe? or it just not work full stop? thought I had tried it out and it was fine...... though not with anything complex
[01:23] <hardw1re> all i was trying to do was have a disccusion and get some adivce/support with the latest nvidia driver files for linux
[01:23] <hardw1re> and you poke your nose in
[01:23] <Hello_World> ninnghizidha: thx for the package, works fine
[01:23] <dbee> bimberi: thanks, I've checked it out, do you reckon I should download a new jre or a new libc ??
[01:23] <cafueg1> dbee: a new libc? What did you break? and how?
[01:24] <ninnghizidha> great tu hear.
[01:24] <ninnghizidha> (to)
[01:24] <bina> Kromonos: im no expert in laptops, so this could be miles off.  Could it be something to do with ur power management?  Dont laptops go into suspend when u put the screen donw?
[01:24] <bimberi> dbee: the jre
[01:24] <Seveas> cafueg1, braind-dead hoary-extras packages require a backport libgcc
[01:24] <bina> ah, but that wouldnt explain why it happens from tty1 and tty7 :)
[01:24] <Seveas> hardw1re: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[01:24] <cafueg1> Seveas: haha. That's why the Java wiki is point at the wrong page.
[01:25] <Kromonos> bina: :)
[01:25] <cafueg1> hardw1re:  I have you on ignore, please do the same to me.
[01:25] <dbee> cafuegl: it just says that my libc is the wrong version or outdated ... this is strange because I only downloaded the Ubuntu ISO yesterday
[01:25] <hardw1re> ,,/,,
[01:25] <cafueg1> dbee: The jre package is broken. Just a moment.
[01:25] <DjKritical-> lol
[01:25] <Seveas> dbee, the java .deb files from hoary-extras are broken
[01:25] <Seveas> grab a .deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:25] <DjKritical-> excellent rebuttle :D
[01:25] <bimberi> webtoe: to clarify, the issue is that the j2re on hoary-extras are broken (god i wish i could type faster :) )
[01:25] <dabaR> Seveas: :O you are illegal now?:)
[01:25] <cafueg1> or use "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions"
[01:26] <Seveas> dabaR, I've always been :)
[01:26] <cafueg1> You will guaranteed not have libc issues.
[01:26] <DjKritical-> Oh my god I didn't get an error this time when installing!!!
[01:26] <Wilf> wierd
[01:26] <dbee> Seveas: which .deb ??
[01:26] <DjKritical-> Seveas: seems like your advice worked :D
[01:26] <cafueg1> DjKritical-: Okay, insert CD and reboot again ;-)
[01:26] <dabaR> Seveas: you have eh? good. heh.
[01:26] <Wilf> why do EDO ram based systems never see how much RAM you put in?
[01:27] <Wilf> ie) i just put in 2 32mb sticks, the system oinly sees 16mb
[01:27] <Wilf> same with my P1
[01:27] <DjKritical-> cafueg1: will do ;)
[01:27] <cafueg1> Wilf: is the ram mayhap broken or incorrectly seated (or not EDO)?
[01:28] <bimberi> dbee: sun-j2re1.5 (or 1.4) up to you
[01:28] <Wilf> it's EDO for sure (i mean, c'mon :\)
[01:28] <cafueg1> Wilf: you'd be amazed...
[01:28] <Wilf> RAM borked?
[01:28] <Wilf> maybe
[01:28] <webtoe> Wilf: is it the BIOS that isn't seeing all the RAM? or linux?
[01:28] <Wilf> BIOS
[01:29] <cafueg1> linux sees it?
[01:29] <Wilf> on both my P1 166 and AMD K6-2
[01:29] <Wilf> no idea.
[01:29] <webtoe> Wilf: are they a pairs
[01:29] <Seveas> k6-2 with EDO?
[01:29] <cafueg1> Do K6-2 mobos even support edo ram?
[01:29] <Wilf> yep
[01:29] <Wilf> it's a wierd machine, on a really tiny form factor
[01:29] <shawarma> I have a problem during installation of a linux-image.. When it's trying to configure it, I get a bunch of "file descriptor x left open" followed by a "/usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /dev/evms/.nodes/sdb3: Cannot find LVM device","failed to create initrd image"  and lastly apt-get tells me that configuring linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 has failed... Has anyone seen this before?
[01:29] <Hello_World> k6=socket7=pentium1 socket
[01:30] <Hello_World> super-socket7 is compatible
[01:30] <leitao> is there any ubuntu for 64 bits machine?
[01:30] <Hello_World> yes
[01:30] <shawarma> leitao: AMD, you mean?
[01:30] <dbee> bimberi: So I can just download the new repsoitories from Seveas site then, and that should work ???
[01:30] <Wilf> my P1 is on a ATrend ATC1000 mobo which supports not only P1 + K6, but some cyrix cpu's as well.
[01:30] <leitao> shawarma : yes
[01:30] <cafueg1> leitao: Yesp, and it works fine , except for the java web plugin and flash.
[01:30] <shawarma> leitao: Sure there is.
[01:30] <derFlo> my firefox always hangs. Anyone experiences the same problems?
[01:31] <Hello_World> don't use firefox then
[01:31] <cafueg1> leitao: (If you REALLY want java and/or flash on the web, sue the i386 cd)
[01:31] <Hello_World> use IE
[01:31] <webtoe> derFlo: what ubuntu you using? Hoary? coz breezy one chokes on me sometimes
[01:31] <Hello_World> with wine
[01:31] <Hello_World> :D
[01:31] <lemonsforbreakfa> what? IE over Opera?
[01:31] <webtoe> i think it was meant to be a joke
[01:31] <bimberi> dbee: yes, you can replace the hoary-extras line in your sources.list with the one at the top of that page.  Or alternatively just download the .deb file and install it using dpkg
[01:31] <cafueg1> lemonsforbreakfa: yeah, opera doesn't run on Longhorn.
[01:31] <leitao> cafueg1: could i get this in the ubuntu site?
[01:32] <derFlo> webtoe: yes
[01:32] <Hello_World> webtoe: that's why breezy is called "beta"
[01:32] <Hello_World> -.-
[01:32] <Kromonos> Who else has a laptop?
[01:32] <dbee> Thanks bimberi
[01:32] <cafueg1> leitao: Yes, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[01:32] <DjKritical-> My install seems to be stuck on "Configuring Apt - Testing network repository"
[01:32] <webtoe> i know i know i'm not stupid...i want to use the development branch on my laptop
[01:32] <bimberi> dbee: not yet, wait till it works :)
[01:32] <leitao> cafueg1: ok
[01:32] <cafueg1> leitao: You want version 5.04
[01:32] <hardw1re> !nvidia
[01:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or quick optimizations at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OptimizingNvidia
[01:33] <DjKritical-> oh no ;(
[01:33] <webtoe> derFlo: try starting firefox from a terminal and see what messages it spits out
[01:33] <cafueg1> webtoe: openoffice.org and mozilla-firefox seem to currently be broken on breezy here, gnome is missing its trash applet (completely) (again) and evolution crashes a lot.
[01:34] <DjKritical-> ahh it moved! false alarm!
[01:34] <webtoe> cafueg1: i know i tested it on my desktop and it was very mangled. But on my laptop its fine for some reason. Firefox wouldn't work for a while and the gnome-panel crashed but now it works fine
[01:34] <derFlo> webtoe: ok
[01:35] <derFlo> webtoe: it's not reproducable. sometime it hangs, sometimes not
[01:35] <webtoe> cafueg1: but it only appears to be on this laptop it works fine, my desktop machine just continually choked all the time
[01:35] <webtoe> derFlo: have you installed any plugins? or firefox extensions?
[01:36] <derFlo> florianq@flux:~$ firefox
[01:36] <derFlo> NP_Initialize
[01:36] <derFlo> New
[01:36] <derFlo> webtoe: only search plugins
[01:37] <derFlo> webtoe: but i have the same behaviour without any plugins
[01:37] <derFlo> webtoe: not so often, but it also hangs every once in a while
[01:37] <cafuego> derFlo: mv .mozilla/firefox ~/backup-foo; firefox
[01:37] <derFlo> cafuego: already did that
[01:38] <cafuego> still issues?
[01:38] <derFlo> yes
[01:38] <lemonsforbreakfa> still having install problems - cannot install a bootloader.  See http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59723 please.  Thank you.
[01:38] <derFlo> not so often, but also
[01:38] <derFlo> it doesn't crash. it hangs
[01:40] <derFlo> no updates available (apt-get update & apt-get upgrade)
[01:40] <derFlo> strange
[01:41] <derFlo> I could try to use mozilla....
[01:41] <Hello_World> mozilla is better anyway
[01:42] <derFlo> Hello_World: why do you think that?
[01:43] <Hello_World> no crippled sidebar
[01:43] <Hello_World> a proper options dialog
[01:43] <Hello_World> more mature
[01:44] <nerdy2> what option do you miss?
[01:44] <derFlo> but mozilla won't be supported in the future....
[01:44] <derFlo> I like the search-field
[01:44] <inc7> hi, first time usin ubantu, linux
[01:45] <pet>  ciao every body.. i have a problem maybe some one can halp me..
[01:45] <bimberi> hi inc7
[01:45] <inc7> i dont know how to run realplayer
[01:45] <inc7> hi
[01:45] <Hello_World> what option do you miss?  <--i don't want to hide the tabbar when only 1 tab is open
[01:45] <pet>  i m connected in a office with my laptop .. runs on ubuntu
[01:45] <wickedpuppy> inc7, have you installed it ?
[01:45] <Hmmmm> inc7, do u have real player installed?
[01:45] <Hello_World> and i generally miss any kind of logical structure in the ff dialogs
[01:46] <pet>  all the time i reboot the computer the connection in the office is kill
[01:46] <inc7> i installed using terminal, and instructions but now i cant run or have firefox recognize for a stream
[01:46] <pet> :(
[01:46] <uthini> cfdisk doesn't like my 80gb hd
[01:46] <pet> how comes ??
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> inc7, what you typed ??
[01:46] <uthini> i'm not too familiar with unix fdisk
[01:46] <uthini> !fdisk
[01:46] <ubotu> uthini: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> pet ... kill ??
[01:46] <inc7> to install, i installed in home folder
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> what you mean kill ?
[01:46] <pet> connection is off
[01:46] <pet> i have to restart the modem
[01:46] <Hmmmm> inc7, hit Alt+F2"
[01:46] <wickedpuppy> inc7, real player is not opensource ..you bought it ?
[01:46] <pet> how comes
[01:46] <pet> ?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> pet, ... that might be your network problem ?
[01:47] <inc7> no, downloaded for website
[01:47] <pet> yes
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> oh free ? hmms ...
[01:47] <inc7> alt f2--  . then?
[01:47] <wickedpuppy> pet ... why not contact your network admin ?
[01:47] <pet> with the other computer it doesn t make this problem
[01:47] <pet> only when i reboot with ubuntu
[01:48] <inc7> not listed?
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> pet, your network is detected i hope ??
[01:48] <pet> it disturb the connection
[01:48] <pet> yes
[01:48] <pet> but after i reboot the modem
[01:48] <pet> i m able to connect
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> modem ?
[01:48] <wickedpuppy> how to reboot the modem ?
[01:48] <pet> i just put off and on
[01:48] <pet> after connection is good agein
[01:48] <pet> i connect with wifi
[01:49] <wickedpuppy> oh wifi lan cable modem ?
[01:49] <pet> yes
[01:49] <pet> german adsl modem
[01:49] <Hmmmm> then type "realplay"
[01:49] <pet> Sinus
[01:49] <wickedpuppy> hmms ... i use wireless card in ubuntu at school ... never got this prob
[01:49] <pet> modem
[01:50] <pet> me also
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> network usually goes up and down but never cut off
[01:50] <pet> maybe i configure host in my network admin
[01:50] <inc7> can not display location file//:relplay
[01:50] <inc7> can i double click icon suposed to run?
[01:50] <wickedpuppy> inc7, you are suppoed to run it in terminal ... not browse
[01:50] <pet> is it a problem in the host settings
[01:50] <pet> ?
[01:50] <Hmmmm> inc7, just hit enter
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> pet, its possible ... what about your ESSID ?
[01:51] <pet> it is ok
[01:51] <pet> crypted
[01:51] <pet> wep key
[01:51] <pet> this is ok
[01:51] <wickedpuppy> ah ... well no idea about that one ... mine seems to work fine ... sorry dude
[01:51] <pet> but when i restart my computer the other computer have no connection anny mor
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> ?
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> two computers ?
[01:52] <pet> yes
[01:52] <DjKritical-> I just installed ubuntu and xwindows got an error.. is this common?
[01:52] <twibbler> pet do you use dhcp or hard code ip ?.
[01:52] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, no
[01:52] <inc7> home/inc7/RealPlayer
[01:52] <pet> i tried both
[01:53] <inc7> thats where it is, i type that in and it opens the folder?
[01:53] <pet> does the connection depends on my laptop ?
[01:53] <Jowi> pet: sounds like your router's got a problem. Probably interference from other wireless things. Try to change the channel in the router.
[01:53] <kemik> inc7:  so maybe thats a folder and not an executable
[01:53] <pet> ?
[01:54] <pet> i have also windows on this laptop
[01:54] <pet> when i start in windows i don t have this problem
[01:54] <pet> i have the impression there is some thing wrong in my host settings
[01:54] <pet> in network admin
[01:54] <DjKritical-> whats the default root password for ubuntu?
[01:54] <pet> do i need a Hostname ?
[01:55] <icewt> DjKritical-, it's your user password
[01:55] <dePOLL> erm.. what is an "upstream Alioth package"?
[01:55] <DjKritical-> icewt: that didn't work for me
[01:55] <inc7> i added another /home/inc7/RealPlayer/realplayer   to get the exe but nothin?
[01:55] <pet> ?
[01:55] <twibbler> pet: if when connecting to wireless you losing internet connection to the other computer does sound like an ip conflict ....
[01:55] <pet> yes
[01:56] <Aquasky> DIE WILF DIE
[01:56] <DjKritical-> is there anything else the root password might be set to?
[01:56] <bimberi> DjKritical-: log in as yourself, then type "sudo -i" (with your user password) to get a root shell
[01:56] <inc7> should i have installed on root termonal?
[01:56] <Kromonos> hmpf
[01:56] <bimberi> DjKritical-: ubuntu installs with root disabled
[01:56] <twibbler> pet: is main computer win or linux
[01:56] <Kromonos> why ist network:/// in nautilus empty?
[01:56] <pet> main computer is windows
[01:56] <Hmmmm> inc7, how did u install realplayer?
[01:56] <pet> i m just new here
[01:57] <Kromonos> I had a samba network in my LAN
[01:57] <twibbler> ok well first ceck ip on main comp ... ipconfig in dos promt.
[01:57] <inc7> i opend terminal, put in commant to make file i downloaded executable, then put in another command to install
[01:57] <pet> it seems like ubuntu set him self as main computer
[01:57] <pet> how can i put this off
[01:57] <inc7> it asked me where to install, i said home, it installed i see the folder , files
[01:58] <Hmmmm> ok inc7 do this
[01:58] <DjKritical-> Okay I've encountered major problems with my basic install of ubuntu.. now I'm in a root console.. and when I do 'apt-get -f install' I get an error
[01:58] <Hmmmm> "sudo apt-get install realplayer"
[01:58] <uthini> !format
[01:58] <ubotu> uthini: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:58] <uthini> oh c
[01:58] <kemik> pet:  im not sure what you're talking about.. isit the Bootmenu that defaults on running ubuntu? if so, you'll need to edit grub menu.lst
[01:58] <uthini> guys wots the format command?
[01:58] <Jowi> Kromonos: default samba workgroup name is MSHOME.
[01:58] <Kromonos> Jowi: I had changed this in smb.conf
[01:59] <Kromonos> but nothing happens. network:/// is still empty
[01:59] <pet> yes default is running on ubuntu
[01:59] <derFlo> mozilla also crashed
[01:59] <inc7> i hope i can get this workin, i hate xp
[01:59] <kemik> uthini:  fdisk
[01:59] <DjKritical-> error processing... blah/blah/gnome-icon-theme... corrupted filesystem tarbell...
[01:59] <derFlo> only fyi
[01:59] <derFlo> bye
[02:00] <uthini> kemik, i don't see a format option, i've changed the partitions, but its still an ntfs drive
[02:00] <DjKritical-> corrupted package archive
[02:00] <Jowi> Kromonos: ah very good. it can take a while for it to catch up though. sometimes it takes up to 3-4 minutes over here.
[02:00] <kemik> Kromonos:  /etc/samba/smb.conf is a configurationfile for your samba-server (if you're running one) not the client
[02:00] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, why you need -f ?? what are you installing ?
[02:00] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I got an error the first time I tried to load xwindows
[02:00] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I got into root and tried to do 'apt-get upgrade'
[02:00] <inc7> anyone know how i ues this program to connect to undernet
[02:01] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I got another error then it suggested 'apt-get -f install'
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> xwindows ?? after you install ubuntu you should get inside gnome
[02:01] <Kromonos> kemik: so far so good :) and where is the config file of the client?
[02:01] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: gnome didn't load
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, ... now then you got install problem
[02:01] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: it gave me an error... something like.... /usr/bin/X11 missing.. or something
[02:01] <XTC> inc7 anyone know how i ues this program to connect to undernet << xchat?
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> did you install cleanly ??
[02:01] <DjKritical-> well it looked like it did!
[02:01] <DjKritical-> I got almost to the end
[02:01] <inc7> what ya
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> XTC, inc7  ... ctrl+t
[02:01] <kemik> uthini:  oh. format =)
[02:02] <XTC> ??
[02:02] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: any suggestions? or do you suggest a reinstall?
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, what you mean almost ?
[02:02] <DjKritical-> well..
[02:02] <DjKritical-> at the end of the install
[02:02] <uthini> OMG!!!! no format command!!! whats going on here?
[02:02] <wickedpuppy> what was at the end of install ?
[02:02] <kemik> Kromonos:  you can mount the samba shares if you got "smbfs" installed using the mount command
[02:02] <DjKritical-> it moved me to some pakage installation program
[02:02] <DjKritical-> which I didn't know how to use
[02:02] <XTC> aaaaaaaaaaa.... menu: x-chat/server list....
[02:02] <DjKritical-> so I quit (which was accidental because I was trying to go back)
[02:02] <XTC> also works inc7
[02:02] <Kromonos> kemik: alright, but why is network:/// empty?
[02:03] <kemik> Kromonos:  or try browsing the network with Places-->Network Servers etc
[02:03] <Jowi> uthini: mkfs
[02:03] <uthini> kemik, when i tupe format is tjoons no such command?
[02:03] <uthini> mkay
[02:03] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, something is wrong ...  did you let your com reboot after you installed the first stage ?
[02:03] <kemik> Kromonos:  could be any number of reasons.. most likely you've not configured your network correctly
[02:03] <Kromonos> kemik: Places --> Network Servers = network:///
[02:03] <christ_> lol
[02:03] <DjKritical-> before that package installation screen... I got a message... "Some of the packages something something something"... you will be able to fix this from the package selector coming up
[02:03] <kemik> uthini:  i didnt mena "format" as the command rather "oh, you were asking about formatting" sorry for the confusion =)
[02:04] <Kromonos> kemik: If my network isn't configured correctly I wouldn't be here ;)
[02:04] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: yeah.. it rebooted fine... everything was perfect up to the restart... then it started configuring packages upon rebooting
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> yup
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> correct
[02:04] <kemik> Kromonos:  setting up internet sharing isnt the same as using a samba network
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> then it will download ... and ask you if you want to install
[02:04] <wickedpuppy> you said yes ... and it will configure and does everything and get you into gnome
[02:04] <DjKritical-> yeah
[02:04] <Kromonos> kemik: When I use the IP Adress of my Samba server, I get a connection
[02:05] <DjKritical-> then it tried to load gnome
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> then ?
[02:05] <kemik> Kromonos:  try typing in smb://servername
[02:05] <DjKritical-> and got a fatal error with X11
[02:05] <uthini> kemik, what is the format command? i know it exists!! i have my partition info setup already
[02:05] <Stormx> what is samba?
[02:05] <kemik> Kromonos:  do you have the correct workgroups on both client and server? they usually have to "match"
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> so the install didn't finish DjKritical-  ?
[02:05] <kemik> !samba
[02:05] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:05] <DjKritical-> well no because if it had finished I'd be in gnome =(
[02:05] <DjKritical-> quick question
[02:05] <Kromonos> kemik: Workgroup is same in smb.conf
[02:05] <wickedpuppy> if the install didn't finish ... pls reinstall ... easiest ... if install is done and no X then we debug
[02:06] <DjKritical-> at the package selection screen
[02:06] <Kromonos> smb://servername <-- this is working
[02:06] <DjKritical-> if I select 'q'
[02:06] <Jel> anyone know how I can set the login path for a single user with ssh and/or pam?  SSH doesn't seem to execute my .bash_login or .bashrc
[02:06] <kemik> uthini:  i think you'd want to use "mkfs"
[02:06] <DjKritical-> and quit that package installer
[02:06] <DjKritical-> is that okay?
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> no
[02:06] <kemik> uthini:  or fill the partition with 0's usgin "dd"
[02:06] <DjKritical-> because I don't know what to do at that point
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> its safe to do yes DjKritical-
[02:06] <wickedpuppy> unless you like console ...
[02:06] <uthini> sigh kemik. does make fs read from the partition table?
[02:07] <uthini> cos i've run out of time
[02:07] <uthini> i need to start something that will run on its own
[02:07] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: what is the point of that console package installer?
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, say yes to whatever the installer ask ... its perfectly safe ... if not there be nobody here
[02:07] <kemik> Kromonos:  and there's no firewalls? (im not sure if samba announces it's presence on a different port than the one you'd connect on)
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, it install the packages such as gnome
[02:07] <DjKritical-> do I need to tell it to do that?
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> before you reboot it only install base packahe
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> no
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> you just say yes
[02:07] <wickedpuppy> instead of q
[02:08] <DjKritical-> ahh I see!
[02:08] <DjKritical-> lol
[02:08] <kemik> uthini:  mkfs  is  used  to  build  a  Linux  file system on a device, usually a hard disk partition.
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> keep saying yes yes yes yes
[02:08] <Kromonos> kemik: No, there is no firewall between server and clients, but a firewall between server and internet :P
[02:08] <DjKritical-> I was hoping it was user error and not hardware/software related!
[02:08] <DjKritical-> thanks wickedpuppy!
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> user error alright
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> lol
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> np
[02:08] <uthini> kemik.... if i type sudo mkfs /dev/hdb1 will it read what i've put down on the partition table?
[02:08] <wickedpuppy> btw ...you never install windows too right ?
[02:08] <kemik> Kromonos:  ok.. is the client a ubuntu box and the server a windows or linux box ?
[02:08] <derreck> Jel, Try putting it in .bash_profile
[02:08] <inc7> how do u open that window to run programs again?
[02:09] <Jel> derreck: tried, no luck :(
[02:09] <inc7> i oressed alt f4 and it closed open windows
[02:09] <Kromonos> kemik: client is ubuntu and server is eisfair linux :)
[02:09] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: how do you mean?
[02:09] <wickedpuppy> oh nvm
[02:09] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I've gone through the windows installer so many times it's numbed my ability to think during install
[02:09] <kemik> uthini:  i'd go for "sudo -t filesystemtype<ntfs,vfat,ext3> /dev/hdb1"   and that would probably give you a partition with the FS you want...
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, ah lol ... so you keep pressing yes yes yes and ok ok ok ?
[02:10] <DjKritical-> haha yeah
[02:10] <DjKritical-> then when it asks me to make a choice I go "oh no!!! quit quit!"
[02:10] <kemik> eisfair? never heard of :)
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> well ... its same here ... :P ubuntu base is really small ...
[02:10] <wickedpuppy> so get all
[02:10] <Kromonos> http://www.eisfair.org
[02:11] <Kromonos> it's an easy to install linux inet server
[02:11] <Kromonos> :)
[02:11] <DjKritical-> It's only quarter past 12... there has to be enough time left to get this working! '_
[02:11] <DjKritical-> ;)
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, it takes an hour ... if the network is fast
[02:11] <nenduvel> ik heb een fat32 partitie op men pc maar hoe vind ik of het bv /hda1 of /hda2 of iets dergelijks is?
[02:11] <Stormx> english f00
[02:11] <kemik> Kromonos:  well.. im not sure what todo about your problem...
[02:11] <wickedpuppy> nenduvel, #ubuntu-de pls
[02:11] <DjKritical-> 1meg network
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> or #ubuntu.de ..
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> forgot which one
[02:12] <kemik> that was probably #ubuntu-nl
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> oh
[02:12] <wickedpuppy> nl ? lol
[02:12] <kemik> yes. dutch
[02:12] <eliyahu> got a quick question.
[02:12] <kemik> ;)
[02:12] <nenduvel> yes nl
[02:12] <nenduvel> :)
[02:12] <webtoe> ask away eliyahu
[02:12] <nenduvel> wrong window
[02:12] <nenduvel> sorry
[02:12] <Kromonos> hmpf
[02:12] <kemik> Kromonos:  but if all you got is linux OS's id go with NFS instead ;)
[02:12] <eliyahu> firefox has decided that its my default ftp program. I want it to go back to being nautilas.
[02:13] <Kromonos> kemik: I decited to use Samba because of my Windows Game PC
[02:13] <Kromonos> -t+d
[02:13] <kemik> mmh. im running both services... but i'm using linux 99% of the time ;)
[02:13] <Kromonos> ahh
[02:13] <Kromonos> I found it
[02:14] <kemik> isit browsable from windows ?
[02:14] <kemik> ok? what was it ?
[02:14] <Kromonos> I've restartet samba service on server
[02:14] <Kromonos> and now, it's shown in network:///
[02:14] <Kromonos> *gg*
[02:14] <kemik> you didnt restart after editing the .conf? ;)
[02:14] <nenduvel> i have a fat32 partition on my pc how can i mount it?
[02:14] <phreakys> hi
[02:14] <kemik> !ntfs
[02:14] <phreakys> how can i uninstall a package, installed with make install ?
[02:14] <Kromonos> kemik: The server is running until one week
[02:14] <kemik> the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions
[02:14] <milestone> hi all
[02:14] <eliyahu> can anyone tell me how to make nautalis my default ftp client?
[02:15] <kemik> nenduvel:  read that link
[02:15] <Kromonos> I just installed ubuntu today
[02:15] <nenduvel> i use win 2000
[02:15] <kemik> nenduvel:  or doit the hard way and learn the mountcommand "man mount" ;)
[02:15] <kemik> nenduvel:  read it all
[02:15] <gorilla> phreakys, you can't... the best you can do is to rea the Makefile for where it installed the program and other files.
[02:15] <nenduvel> ok
[02:15] <milestone> anyone know why my "ALT-GR" Key does not work with Breezy Badger anymore? it worked fine with Hoary Hedgehog
[02:15] <eliyahu> webtoe ? anyone?
[02:15] <Kromonos> I hadn't to edit and restart services on server
[02:16] <phreakys> ah, tnx gorilla
[02:16] <Kromonos> and at ubuntu box I restarted samba service more than twelve times ;)
[02:16] <gorilla> phreakys, that's the short answer anyway... :-)
[02:16] <kemik> Kromonos:  :P
[02:17] <kemik> Kromonos:  you dont have to run samba on the client-side really
[02:17] <eliyahu> can no one help me?
[02:17] <inc7> gonna try to reinstall
[02:17] <inc7> says
[02:17] <inc7> Ensure that the .bin file you downloaded is executable. You can make the .bin file executable by running the "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" command from a terminal window.
[02:17] <webtoe> sorry eliyah was away for a minute
[02:17] <webtoe> i'll have a look
[02:17] <Kromonos> kemik: I started samba on my ubuntu box because of sharing on lan partys :D
[02:17] <kemik> inc7:  why not install realplayer from the repositories
[02:18] <wickedpuppy> any of you installed j2sdk ?? know where to get .deb or repo for it ?
[02:18] <wickedpuppy> !repos
[02:18] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:18] <inc7> howw
[02:18] <inc7> where
[02:18] <kemik> !realplayer
[02:18] <ubotu> realplayer is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:18] <milestone> did something change between releases?
[02:18] <webtoe> eliyah: is this when you click a link in firefox or something?
[02:18] <webtoe> or a link on the desktop?
[02:18] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  yesterday there was some error in hoary-extras i think.. so ppl were unable to get the sdk
[02:19] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  but it should be in extras
[02:19] <wickedpuppy> ah i see
[02:19] <eliyahu> in my places menu webtoe
[02:19] <kemik> Kromonos:  ah ok.. make da*n sure you dont give out the wrong permissions then! so noone delets stuff etc ;)
[02:20] <eliyahu> i have several work related servers saved their
[02:20] <eliyahu> up until two days ago this never happened.
[02:20] <eliyahu> i've been through every bit of options that i can find
[02:20] <Kromonos> kemik: Sharing is just reading ;) writting is just permitted if I know the person :)
[02:20] <milestone> it is driving me crazy
[02:21] <webtoe> eliyah: what comes up instead of nautilus when you click on a places menu link for an ftp site?
[02:22] <eliyahu> it opens a new tab in firefox
[02:22] <eliyahu> ask me to confirm the password
[02:22] <eliyahu> and opens a ls of the dir in firefox
[02:22] <wickedpuppy> i got java installed ... but its not showing up in my path ... whereis java doesn't show either ... any ideas ?
[02:22] <eliyahu> which is fine (if annoying) for taking things off line but doesn't do me a whole hell of a lot of good when I need to upload something
[02:22] <webtoe> k
[02:22] <Kromonos> I'm away to work
[02:23] <webtoe> soudns like gnome being a pain possibly.
[02:23] <eliyahu> thats what i think
[02:23] <webtoe> i'm looking at the moment, give me a couple of secs
[02:23] <Kromonos> bye and thx kemik for help
[02:23] <eliyahu> but i cant find anywhere to reverse it
[02:23] <webtoe> i'm wondering whether its a setting in gconf (gnome's registry like thing)
[02:24] <eliyahu> how could i inspect that?
[02:24] <eliyahu> I;m a long time computer geek but a relatively new to linux (and happy I made the move)
[02:24] <webtoe> applications > sysytem tools> configuration editor
[02:25] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  "sudo locate -ucl 0" then "locate java" or "locate javac"
[02:25] <webtoe> i've been using linux for about 5 years and still a little rubbish
[02:25] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  it's probably in /usr/local/somewhere
[02:26] <inc7> how do i uninstall
[02:27] <inc7> like remove from registry, n dll files
[02:27] <inc7> not just folder?
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> inc7, apt-get remove *program*
[02:27] <inc7> thatks
[02:27] <wickedpuppy> inc7, type apt-get .... it will show you all the available options
[02:27] <eliyahu> webtoe, i dont see fire fox in the apps section. where woulod it be?
[02:28] <inc7> thanks
[02:28] <inc7> should i stick with this or just go back to windows
[02:28] <inc7> u ppl really like it , or just hate windows that much
[02:28] <wickedpuppy> inc7, you want to freedom or restriction ?
[02:29] <Aquasky> i use windows, i don't mind it
[02:29] <inc7> ya i know
[02:29] <inc7> ms sux
[02:29] <Rockett18> I use both.. have a Linbox and a Winbox
[02:29] <Rockett18> :)
[02:29] <inc7> win emulator?
[02:29] <wickedpuppy> Aquasky, neither do it ... i use windows time to time ... but then ubuntu is my primary box
[02:30] <Wilf> i have ubuntu for my sisters, set up amsn, firefox and oo on the desktop, they can't go wrong
[02:30] <DjKritical-> during install I've been given a choice of kernals... linux-386, linux-image-386, and linux-2.0.6...something
[02:30] <Wilf> beats allways reinstalling after spyware
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> Wilf, try gaim ... its so cool
[02:30] <Wilf> i don't use it
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, you sure you are using ubuntu ?
[02:30] <Wilf> i'm stuck with xp (3DS Max)
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> i didn't get the choice ...
[02:30] <wickedpuppy> Wilf, linux has maya...
[02:30] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: yeah... but I got an error during base components installl so I tol dit to do it again
[02:31] <DjKritical-> lol
[02:31] <Wilf> doesn't help me, school computers have 3DS Max
[02:31] <DjKritical-> now I have a choice
[02:31] <icewt> is there a way to enable the debian menu in gnome (in ubuntu)?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> ah eh ... that just choose one
[02:31] <Jerub> hah. installing a single gnome application reuqires reinstalling all the xorg packages.
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> icewt, what is debian menu ?
[02:31] <wickedpuppy> Jerub, which app ?
[02:31] <DjKritical-> bah big error... reinstall number 6 now
[02:32] <Jerub> gnome-pilot
[02:32] <DjKritical-> maybe this harddrive has problems?
[02:32] <T-One> good morning. Can anyone answer a question about VNC for me?
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> ... DjKritical-  are you reformatting the whole disk each time ?
[02:32] <DjKritical-> well re-partitioning
[02:32] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, let ubuntu do everything ... if you are wiping out the whole harddisk
[02:33] <inc7> inc7@inc:~$ apt-get remove realplayer
[02:33] <inc7> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:33] <inc7> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:33] <Seveas> inc7, do what the thing says
[02:33] <Seveas> run it as root
[02:33] <DjKritical-> well it's still trying to use my old partitions from an attempt at installing debian
[02:33] <inc7> anyone know whats thta about
[02:33] <DjKritical-> lol
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> inc7, only root can install remove programs
[02:33] <icewt> wickedpuppy, it's the menu which includes many of the programs that are not in the default ubuntu applications menu
[02:33] <DjKritical-> whoops?
[02:33] <Seveas> and don't paste in here...
[02:33] <inc7> so go to root terminal?
[02:33] <bimberi> T-One: ask away, hopefully someone can
[02:33] <eliyahu> found it!
[02:33] <wickedpuppy> icewt, get those programs ?
[02:33] <T-One> can I remove vnc-common and install vnc4 without any major issues?
[02:33] <inc7> alote of typin :P
[02:34] <T-One> (vnc-common has a dependency for ubuntu-desktop)
[02:34] <icewt> wickedpuppy, er.. what i mean is, there are quite many programs that don't appear in the applications menu when they are installed. however, they usually are in the debian menu, but debian menu is disabled in ubuntu for some reason
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> that i am confused ...
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> what is debian menu ...
[02:34] <wickedpuppy> Seveas, can help ?
[02:35] <icewt> wickedpuppy, ubuntu is based on debian
[02:35] <wickedpuppy> i know that
[02:35] <eliyahu> is there an undo in config edit?
[02:35] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I'm up to the stage "erase entire disk HDA1"... that will repartition and reformat that disk?
[02:35] <Seveas> icewt, install 'menu' or smeg
[02:35] <Seveas> eliyahu, afaik no
[02:35] <bimberi> T-One: that will be ok, BTW ubuntu includes vino (also a vnc server) in the basic install
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, yes
[02:36] <icewt> Seveas, i have smeg but i'm not able to enable debian menu with it
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> that will do everything for you
[02:36] <icewt> wickedpuppy, debian menu looks something like that http://www.hoamskool.net/david/misc/kde_menu.jpg
[02:36] <miojala> heij
[02:36] <eliyahu> webtoe u still around?
[02:36] <wickedpuppy> isn't that kde menu ?
[02:36] <T-One> umm...when I do apt-get remove vnc-common, it wants to take out the other three...how do I force without removing dependencies?
[02:36] <miojala> hej
[02:36] <icewt> wickedpuppy, i mean the debian part of it
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> i can't see it clearly ...
[02:37] <icewt> wickedpuppy, except that it seems to be somehow broken in that pic ;)
[02:37] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  did you find your java-install?
[02:37] <miojala> jhg
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> ah
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> its specific ...
[02:37] <eliyahu> i want to edit a key in config editor
[02:37] <miojala> hej gays
[02:37] <eliyahu> but i deleted the value
[02:37] <eliyahu> and not it will only let me put in an interger
[02:37] <wickedpuppy> icewt, in smeg make a new menu .... called it debian
[02:37] <miojala> hallo gays
[02:37] <eliyahu> how can i put in a string of characters?
[02:38] <webtoe> eliyah: i'm still here, what was the value?
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> and you can edit so it looks like your debian menu :P
[02:38] <Seveas> miojala: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> kemik, yah
[02:38] <kamstrup> eliphas_: select String as value.. in the dropdown
[02:38] <bimberi> T-One: what 3? ubuntu-desktop and ...
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> at Seveas  site ... slow though
[02:38] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:38] <T-One> ubuntu-desktop vnc-common xvncviewer
[02:38] <kemik> Seveas:  maybe he meant it like the "other" gay
[02:38] <eliyahu> it was something linke /user/bin/mozilla-firefox/etc/etc
[02:38] <kemik> heh
[02:38] <icewt> wickedpuppy, i guess you didn't really understand this thing..
[02:38] <kamstrup> eliphas_: In the new key dialog there is a "Type" dropdown. Select String
[02:38] <kemik> though it's highly unlikely ;)
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> icewt, yah ...
[02:39] <darksatanic> Maybe he meant "guys", but can't spell?
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> kemik, can help icewt  ?
[02:39] <webtoe> eliyah: you should right click the key you want to change
[02:39] <webtoe> and select edit
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> i don't get his problem :P
[02:39] <kemik> wickedpuppy:  i dont know :) not seen what's troubling him
[02:39] <inc7> is ubantu an external build or linux/x86?
[02:39] <eliyahu> i do that
[02:39] <webtoe> eliyahu: and it should let you selet string
[02:39] <bimberi> T-One: it's OK to remove those, if you must have vnc4
[02:39] <eliyahu> but the only thing i can enter is an interger
[02:39] <Seveas> inc7, what do you mean with that..?
[02:39] <kamstrup> inc7: ?
[02:39] <wickedpuppy> inc7, whats external build ???
[02:39] <T-One> what IS ubuntu-desktop?
[02:39] <eliyahu> the top two fields are greyed
[02:39] <eliyahu> meaning i can only type in the value field
[02:39] <kamstrup> T-One: A meta-package
[02:40] <Seveas> T-One, a meta package that provides a complete desktop
[02:40] <bimberi> T-One: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage with dependencies to what is considered a complete desktop
[02:40] <eliyahu> name and type are greyed out
[02:40] <inc7> wich one should i download, realplayer
[02:40] <keith_> hey how do you mount a usb stick?
[02:40] <bimberi> T-One: you're just replacing one of those elements with another
[02:40] <kamstrup> eliphas_: ... weird...
[02:40] <webtoe> eliyahu: hmmm, maybe you could delete the key and try creating it
[02:40] <keith_> is not doing it automatically
[02:40] <T-One> okay...if I remove that will something else break?
[02:40] <bimberi> T-One: no
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> keith_, i plug it in and its there :P
[02:40] <inc7> linux/ppc  or linux/x86
[02:40] <eliyahu> i made a new key
[02:40] <webtoe> eliyahu: i just tried it on mine also and I see your point
[02:40] <kamstrup> T-One: nope
[02:40] <wickedpuppy> keith_, try /media .. there should be usbdisk
[02:40] <eliyahu> so i deleted it
[02:40] <keith_> there isnt wickedpuppy
[02:40] <eliyahu> and am making a new one
[02:41] <inc7> https://player.helixcommunity.org/2004/downloads/
[02:41] <kemik> inc7:  ppc and x86 refers to cpu-architechture
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> oh there is nothing in media ?
[02:41] <kemik> inc7:  and ubuntu has builds for both
[02:41] <keith_> theres an sda1 but the file thats on there isnt showing up
[02:41] <inc7> amd64
[02:41] <Seveas> inc7, ubuntu comes for x86/ppc/amd64/sparc/hppa
[02:41] <eliyahu> what should i put as the value to get it to use nautlias?
[02:41] <keith_> so how do i mount it?
[02:41] <kamstrup> Seveas: sparc as well?
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> !usbdisk
[02:41] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Not a clue
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> !usb
[02:41] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Not a clue
[02:41] <Seveas> keith_, pmount /dev/sda1
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> !pmount
[02:41] <ubotu> wickedpuppy: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:41] <inc7> none for amd64, is that the prob maybe?
[02:41] <keith_> oooooh pmount
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> ah ...
[02:42] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I've got another major error
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> oh ah
[02:42] <fabbione> Seveas: you forget ia64 :)
[02:42] <inc7> wich one should i get u think?
[02:42] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, don't experiment with the bot in the channel please
[02:42] <webtoe> eliyah: what key are you changing?
[02:42] <Seveas> fabbione, aight, since when?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> opps sorry Seveas
[02:42] <fabbione> Seveas: since warty?
[02:42] <wickedpuppy> oh ah DjKritical- what is it ? lets see
[02:42] <ali_> hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?
[02:42] <ali_> thanks for the help
[02:42] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: ok here goes.. same old error
[02:42] <Seveas> fabbione, ia64 != amd64 right?
[02:42] <kemik> icewt:  the picture you've supplied is a screencap of KDE .. are you running gnome?
[02:42] <keith_> thanks wicked it worked
[02:42] <fabbione> Seveas: right.. ia64 is another processor
[02:42] <webtoe> Seveas: correct
[02:43] <keith_> wickedpuppy, its umount /media/sda1 for unmounting?
[02:43] <tjs> has anyone been working on compiling ubuntu kernels to act as xenU kernels?
[02:43] <webtoe> ia64 is iatanium 64 bit
[02:43] <Seveas> fabbione, hmm, never knew that there were ia64 builds :)
[02:43] <ompaul> intels world beater :-)
[02:43] <tjs> is it possible?
[02:43] <eliyahu> ROCK ON WEBTOE
[02:43] <ali_> hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> yup
[02:43] <ompaul> !
[02:43] <ubotu> ompaul: Wish i knew
[02:43] <eliyahu> that did it
[02:43] <eliyahu> thanks a ton
[02:43] <ompaul> !intel
[02:43] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, ompaul
[02:43] <kemik> inc7:  im sure the amd64 can run x86 builds.. the amd64 builds are only optimized for your cpu
[02:43] <fabbione> tjs: possible but difficult
[02:43] <DjKritical-> [!]  Install the base system - Unable to install the selected kernal -
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> but funny normally i just right click on the folder on the desktop to umount usb :P
[02:43] <ali_> hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?
[02:43] <webtoe> its perfectly alright eliyahu. what key did you change ?
[02:43] <kemik> inc7:  and the amd64 build is not as mature as the x86  from what i've seen
[02:43] <fabbione> tjs: there are no xen patches for 2.6.10 or 2.6.12
[02:43] <Ng> kemik: correct, normal i386 code runs fine on x86_64 (amd64)
[02:43] <DjKritical-> kernal package - 386
[02:43] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, ah you are using ubuntu hoary right ?
[02:43] <ali_> hi is there a "howto" for installing ubuntu from ftp and hard drive ?
[02:44] <eliyahu> desktop.url-handlers/ftp
[02:44] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: yes
[02:44] <tjs> fabbione, will ubuntu run on the standard xenU kernel?
[02:44] <fabbione> tjs: yes
[02:44] <webtoe> eliyahu: oh right, Mine doesn't have that. Maybe default action is to use nautilus. glad its working
[02:44] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: downloaded hoary yesturday... md5 checksum matched... burnt the CD twice... this one was burnt at 4x
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> DjKritical-, i don't remember being asked to choose kernel ... and i just installed one a few hours ago
[02:44] <DjKritical-> I didn't get asked this time
[02:44] <eliyahu> ok folks
[02:44] <DjKritical-> I only got asked once
[02:45] <eliyahu> i'm back to work
[02:45] <eliyahu> thanks for the help
[02:45] <eliyahu> i'll be back next time i have a question
[02:45] <webtoe> i think you get asked which kernel if you choose advanced install
[02:45] <eliyahu> peace from Israel
[02:45] <inc7> so get the x86
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> oh
[02:45] <kamstrup> eliphas_: do that
[02:45] <tjs> fabbione, great. You sound informed? do you know if there are any howtos for ubuntu as guest on xen?
[02:45] <inc7> should i have installed a diff ubantu
[02:45] <wickedpuppy> you did advanced install DjKritical-  ?
[02:45] <DjKritical-> I only got asked to choose a kernal after reciving an error message and trying to install the base system a second time...
[02:45] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: nope
[02:45] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I've been doing the most basic install I can
[02:45] <fabbione> tjs: it's pretty simple to do.. use debootstrap to create the xen guest and use your xenU kernel.. nothing too fancy
[02:46] <DjKritical-> It seems as if the error messages arn't at the same stages either
[02:46] <fabbione> tjs: but i am not aware of any howto
[02:46] <wickedpuppy> but i was never asked ... can anyone who done the advanced install confirm ?
[02:46] <tjs> fabbione, okay, thanks heaps
[02:46] <kemik> inc7:  if you installed the x86 then all is fine
[02:46] <fabbione> tjs: no problem
[02:46] <inc7> i installed amd64
[02:47] <DjKritical-> wickedpuppy: I'm leaning towards harddisk problem.. because even tho I'm intentionally not trying to sound as if I know anything about linux.. I have installed other linux distros fine before.. I'm currently running debain on this PC fine...
[02:47] <inc7> and now when i download to desktop nothin appears
[02:47] <kemik> inc7: that's fine too if you've got a AMD64 cpu
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> oh ah
[02:47] <inc7> i do
[02:47] <inc7> somethins screwy tho
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> but if its fine then there shouldn't be any prob
[02:47] <DjKritical-> this is my server PC
[02:47] <DjKritical-> I'm installing ubuntu onto my desktop PC
[02:47] <DjKritical-> it has 2 harddisks...
[02:47] <wickedpuppy> oh ... not production i hope
[02:47] <DjKritical-> a new 200gig sata with windows XP
[02:47] <kemik> inc7:  but as i said, it's not as mature build as the x86, so if you feel that youre very new to linux, maybe you should try the x86 to start with
[02:48] <DjKritical-> and an old 80gig IDE which I'm trying to install on to
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> oh
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> old 80 gig huh
[02:48] <DjKritical-> I havn't run an operating system on the 80gig HD for a long time
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> well maybe ... get gentoo and try memtest
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> :P
[02:48] <inc7> will it be compatable with my hardware?
[02:48] <DjKritical-> ?
[02:48] <kemik> memtest checks your RAM no ?
[02:48] <DjKritical-> what does that do?
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> it test your memory
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> wait should be harddisk test
[02:49] <DjKritical-> lol
[02:49] -FunFusion:#ubuntu- www.FunFusion.Net New Place 4 Fun (daily updates)
[02:49] <FunFusion> www.FunFusion.Net New Place 4 Fun (daily updates)
[02:49] <kemik> different types of memory ;)
[02:49] <kemik> nice
[02:49] <kemik> spam
[02:49] <DjKritical-> I'm almost thinking about using the 200 gig SATA HD
[02:49] <wickedpuppy> ah get livecd and do fsck
[02:49] <blaat> What kind of program do I need to create something like this navigation --> http://www.porsche.nl/
[02:49] <DjKritical-> ;O
[02:49] <kemik> DjKritical-:  partition youre 200gb and install ubuntu there
[02:49] <DjKritical-> oh my god...
[02:49] <DjKritical-> It's running my windows thats the only problem
[02:50] <kemik> DjKritical-:  use partition magic from windows, it's easy to use
[02:50] <DjKritical-> with all my personal files
[02:50] <kemik> DjKritical-:  resize the partition
[02:50] <DjKritical-> oh?
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> well you going to need
[02:50] <DjKritical-> thats not a bad idea
[02:50] <webtoe> DjKritical: I have ubuntu on my sata drive. and it installed without a hitch. Now installing windows 2000/XP is a pain
[02:50] <kemik> you hsould have some freespace
[02:50] <icewt> kemik, it doesn't really matter, it's the debian menu that matters. debian menu includes much more programs than the default applications menu in ubuntu. let's take an example. i install gav (GPL Arcade Volleyball). does it appear in the Applications -> Games menu? no. however, if debian menu was enabled, it would be in Applications -> Debian -> Games -> Arcade -> gav. In debian, the menu is enabled. In ubuntu, for some reason, it's disabled, even though
[02:50] <icewt> it's kind of handy.
[02:50] <DjKritical-> but isn't partition magic not free?...
[02:50] <DjKritical-> it doesn't actually write changes to the harddisk unless you pay money?
[02:50] <blaat> DjKritical- Partition magic = non free = paid
[02:50] <webtoe> DjKritical: I used ubuntu's partitioner and it worked fine
[02:50] <wickedpuppy> icewt, i don't know how to explain ... but debian menu only comes with debian ...
[02:51] <DjKritical-> ubuntus partitioner wont rezie windows partitions will it?
[02:51] <kemik> DjKritical-:  the ubuntu installer is said to be able to resize partitions aswell
[02:51] <Seveas> DjKritical-, it can
[02:51] <blaat> DjKritical- use QTparted (free OS partitioner)
[02:51] <DjKritical-> oh really?!
[02:51] <DjKritical-> !
[02:51] <ubotu> Not a clue, DjKritical-
[02:51] <DjKritical-> no s**t!
[02:51] <DjKritical-> :D
[02:51] <kemik> DjKritical-:  ppl say so, but i've not used it myself
[02:51] <Seveas> ubotu, don't interfere :p
[02:51] <ubotu> Seveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:51] <webtoe> DjKritical-: i used the installer one fine just make sure that you have defragmented windows drive before you start
[02:51] <Seveas> ubotu, yes
[02:51] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?
[02:51] <icewt> wickedpuppy, i can see it with smeg, but it can't be enabled
[02:51] <DjKritical-> I defragged ages ago...
[02:51] <DjKritical-> not so long ago rather
[02:51] <DjKritical-> I'm going to try now
[02:51] <kemik> DjKritical-:  time to do it again ;)
[02:51] <Seveas> icewt, evil suggestion: sudo smeg
[02:52] <blaat> Seveas, What kind of program do I need to create something like this navigation --> http://www.porsche.nl/
[02:52] <webtoe> DjKritical-: and remember we can't be held responsible if it hoses your hard drive
[02:52] <DjKritical-> if it's not fully defragged and I resize the partition what could happen?
[02:52] <webtoe> DjKritical-: The installer will just tell you you have a lot less space than you actually do. I think it reads from the end of the windows crud to the end of the drive
[02:52] <blaat> DjKritical- Data loss
[02:53] <icewt> Seveas, hmm.. doesn't seem to make a difference
[02:53] <webtoe> yeah or data loss
[02:53] <Seveas> blaat, a drawing program and an html editor
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> icewt, try this ... on the left debian menu .. click it .. and add new entry ...
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> did it make the debian menu appears ?
[02:53] <ali_> is it possible to install ubuntu via ftp ?
[02:53] <can-o-worms> does anyone know what this is -> kernel BUG at <bad filename>:64129! .... and whole more garble...
[02:53] <moe__> i have broken packages that were held back during a dist-upgrade
[02:53] <Seveas> ali_, yes, with a netboot install
[02:53] <moe__> how can i fix this?
[02:53] <Seveas> moe__, apt-get -f install
[02:53] <ali_> Seveas, do you have the howto for that ?
[02:53] <blaat> Seveas, I don't think it's hardcoded or something. How can something like this be autogenerated? Look at the crazy URL names for the sub-pages
[02:53] <moe__> did that
[02:54] <cafuego> blaat: and a nasty javascript menu generator or extensive javascript knowledge
[02:54] <DjKritical-> does ubuntu automatically mount fat32 partitions by default?
[02:54] <deFrysk> moe__, funny repo's ?
[02:54] <deFrysk> or missing ?
[02:54] <Seveas> DjKritical-, no(t yet)
[02:54] <Seveas> but it's easy to mount them
[02:54] <Ouarf> Yo
[02:54] <Seveas> blaat, then ask them, they built that site. How should I know what they use??
[02:54] <cafuego> and those porsche people could REALLY do with soem stealth whitespace removal
[02:54] <blaat> cafuego, hmmmm. Couldn't this be a CMS thingie? I'm asking because I'll have to build something like this
[02:55] <Ouarf> whats the root password in the ubuntu live ?
[02:55] <ekimus> Ouarf: there isn't one
[02:55] <Ouarf> seriously ????
[02:55] <Seveas> blaat, this discussion is highly off-topic in here, please ask in an appropriate channel
[02:55] <cafuego> blaat: No, that index page is done by hand/specific desktop app
[02:55] <Ouarf> ekimus, and can i save files in fat32 hardisk ?
[02:55] <deFrysk> Ouarf, just enter
[02:55] <ekimus> Ouarf: more correctly root login is disabled
[02:55] <Seveas> Ouarf, yes
[02:55] <Ouarf> how ?
[02:55] <blaat> cafuego, thnx :-)
[02:55] <Seveas> mount the drive and save to it
[02:56] <deFrysk> sudo -s <enter>
[02:56] <ekimus> Ouarf: passwd -l root
[02:56] <cafuego> they're running IIS too
[02:56] <ekimus> iis is cool
[02:56] <Ouarf> ekimus,  permission denied
[02:56] <ekimus> .....if you want to collect trojans and viruses
[02:56] <ekimus> Ouarf: what command?
[02:56] <Seveas> Ouarf, that command was showing how they disabled root login :)
[02:56] <cyprinus> i wanted to install a program, but apt-get give informations with errors back
[02:56] <Ouarf> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ passwd -l root
[02:56] <Ouarf> passwd: Permission refuse
[02:56] <deFrysk> moe__, I dont do (unrequested) privating
[02:56] <cafuego> Hahaah! "This page is best viewed with Internet Explorer, unfortunately"
[02:56] <cyprinus> whenever I ant to upgrade
[02:56] <Seveas> Ouarf: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[02:56] <cyprinus> ubuntu
[02:57] <cyprinus> i cant
[02:57] <Seveas> cyprinus, why not?
[02:57] <DjKritical-> Okay here's what I'm going to do... move all (important) files over to the 80gig...
[02:57] <cyprinus> bezause of errors with this package
[02:57] <DjKritical-> and use the 200 gig
[02:57] <ekimus> Ouarf: if you want to become root just type "sudo su"
[02:57] <cafuego> cyprinus: whenever I want to help someone, but they don't give any info or error messages, i can't
[02:57] <cyprinus> how can i remove instlling it by apt
[02:57] <cyprinus> ??
[02:57] <Seveas> ekimus, bad idea
[02:57] <Seveas> sudo -i
[02:57] <moe__> ok
[02:57] <Bags> Hello.
[02:57] <Ouarf> mmmh
[02:57] <Ouarf> ?
[02:57] <blaat> DjKritical- use Ubuntu and you will be set free
[02:57] <deFrysk> moe__, put your output in pastebin and give the url for us to check
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> do people know where i could aquire Linux friendly boot images for the tektronix nc200h?
[02:57] <Seveas> cyprinus, aptitude remove PACKAGE_NAME_HERE
[02:58] <Ouarf> sodu -i work :)
[02:58] <moe__> pastebin?
[02:58] <Seveas> !pastebin
[02:58] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:58] <ekimus> Seveas: what's su -i the manpage doesn't list it
[02:58] <cyprinus> Seveas: thx
[02:58] <Seveas> ^-- moe__
[02:58] <deFrysk> moe__, see topic
[02:58] <Seveas> sudo -i
[02:58] <Seveas> not su -i
[02:58] <Ouarf> hey, in xchat
[02:58] <DjKritical-> blaat: trust me... I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE UP NO MATTER HOW MANY ERRORS I GET
[02:58] <[FiDO] > I'm having a strange problem
[02:58] <icewt> wickedpuppy, hmm.. if the menu really is totally stripped off of ubuntu, i can only wonder why..
[02:58] <DjKritical-> as you guys can see
[02:58] <ekimus> Seveas: ah yeah i usually use sudo su - anyway :)
[02:58] <Seveas> :)
[02:58] <Ouarf> in xchat can i see all raw in same windows ?
[02:58] <[FiDO] > I'm running a webserver off ubuntu however it is only accessible from the outside intermittently
[02:58] <Ouarf> terminaaaaaaaaaaaaal
[02:59] <[FiDO] > works for 1/2 hour then nothing then 20 minutes later workign again
[02:59] <blaat> DjKritical- that's the spirit! I also helped a friend of mine installing Ubuntu on his PC. He didn't have internet, so he used my connection for the install (and all the programs and stuff)
[02:59] <Seveas> [FiDO] , :|
[02:59] <DjKritical-> I might be tempted to give kubuntu one try if I keep getting errors after formatting my windows drive! lol
[02:59] <blaat> DjKritical- I'm only using Windows for school-purposes (windows only programs :-S )
[02:59] <Bags> Having trouble printing to a HP7150 via USB and CUPS. I've a PPC G3 Powerbook and Ubuntu. It sees the printer but the jobs stop in the queue. This machine prints to the very same printer when it's served on a Windows XP machine, but when connected locally, it doesn't work.. .Any ideas?
[02:59] <[FiDO] > thought it was my nic but replaced it and still having same problem
[02:59] <ekimus> DjKritical-: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed
[02:59] <moe__> deFrysk, here is the url - http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1599
[03:00] <cyprinus> works;] 
[03:00] <Bags> I'm using Kubuntu too. It's very nice...
[03:00] <Ouarf> ekimus, , how i do to become a hacker ?
[03:00] <webtoe> Ouarf: you need to learn to love code!
[03:01] <apokryphos> Ouarf: a coder? You learn to program; learn a programming language
[03:01] <deFrysk> moe__, also put your sources.list in pastebin please
[03:01] <blaat> DjKritical- you'd have the same trouble with Kubuntu (KDE). Ubuntu (Gnome) is just a different window-manager. I use fluxbox nowadays :-)
[03:01] <moe__> ok
[03:01] <Ouarf> but its long !!!!
[03:01] <ekimus> Ouarf: not by asking :)
[03:01] <Ouarf> :p
[03:01] <blaat> DjKritical, sorry, I didn't follow all, but what errors do you get? (so what's your prob)
[03:01] <apokryphos> Ouarf: you need diligence, as in many things.
[03:01] <cafuego> oops, nautilus seems to have crashed
[03:01] <Ouarf> diligence ?
[03:01] <Ouarf> whats your countries ?
[03:01] <apokryphos> !dict diligence
[03:02] <DjKritical-> blaat: well.. I get errors at different stages
[03:02] <apokryphos> Ouarf: dedication, basically.
[03:02] <derek_> hi people wow ubuntu is a great os it almost does everything great
[03:02] <lurah> mmm...is there some easy way to find out mhz of my ram?
[03:02] <blaat> cafuego, nautilus crashes all the time @ my pc :-P
[03:02] <Ouarf> okay apokry
[03:02] <Ouarf> i cant
[03:02] <DjKritical-> blaat: and it's really hard to type these ones out =)
[03:02] <cafuego> Ouarf: I own Uganda, Mexico and Indonesia. Soon be invading Korea too.
[03:02] <Ouarf> need eating
[03:02] <Ouarf> my dogs  need eat too
[03:02] <Ouarf> ma guitar too :p
[03:02] <T-One> exit
[03:02] <cafuego> blaat: A simple 'killall -1 nautilus' solved it.
[03:02] <blaat> DjKritical, if you have a digital camera, take pictures :-)
[03:02] <wickedpuppy> lurah, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:03] <ekimus> Ouarf: how to become a hacker: 1. google 2. google 3. patience. 4 - 499 code 500 DONT'T TELL ANYONE :)
[03:03] <blaat> DjKritical, so you have trouble installing Ubuntu? Or do you have trouble with the partitioning part?
[03:03] <Ouarf> :)
[03:03] <lurah> wickedpuppy, thank =)
[03:03] <Ouarf> the only langage i know really
[03:03] <Ouarf> i knew
[03:03] <Ouarf> is a script
[03:03] <Ouarf> the MRC
[03:04] <Ouarf> :p
[03:04] <moe__> deFrysk, done :D
[03:04] <deFrysk> moe__, link ?
[03:04] <Ouarf> ekimus, how can i do to see all chans/pv/serv in same term in xchat?
[03:04] <Ouarf> *we can ?
[03:04] <ekimus> Ouarf: dunno i don't use xchat
[03:04] <moe__> same as before i just updated post
[03:04] <deFrysk> ok
[03:04] <lurah> wtf? --> cpu MHz         : 597.540
[03:04] <moe__> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1600
[03:04] <moe__> no it wan;t
[03:05] <lurah> is that 60mhz?
[03:05] <ekimus> lurah: what's bad about that?
[03:05] <Thunder000> for some reason, neither hoary nor breezy is able to detect my Laptop DVD-ROM during installation.. I tried Debian Sarge, it detected it.... what could be the problem ??
[03:05] <DjKritical-> blaat: lol
[03:05] <ekimus> lurah: no 600
[03:05] <cafuego> lurah: It's throttled to 600MHz because it's idle.
[03:05] <DjKritical-> blaat: I wish.. I've been typing them out for the last 3 hours
[03:05] <cafuego> lurah: Or do you have a 600MHz machine?
[03:05] <lurah> yeah
[03:05] <blaat> DjKritical, that's the problem when I just join in ;-)
[03:06] <blaat> DjKritical, just type them in a text editor and then dump them to pastebin :D
[03:06] <ekimus> 600MHz throttled? that's twice as much than my box has.....
[03:06] <cafuego> lurah: The numbers are always dumb, mine's 1.8GHz, but actually 1808.827 MHz
[03:06] <ekimus> i think it's time to lurk into some hardware store.....
[03:06] <deFrysk> Moder,  you dont have multiverse of ubuntu
[03:06] <blaat> DjKritical, but by now you should've defined the problem? 1. Does partioning work? 2. Does it install all? ...
[03:06] <lurah> lol
[03:06] <lurah> i ment RAM's speed :D
[03:06] <cafuego> ekimus: Mine throttles to 1004.903 MHz ;-)
[03:07] <deFrysk> moe__,   you dont have multiverse of ubuntu
[03:07] <ekimus> cafuego: shut up :)
[03:07] <DjKritical-> blaat: partitioning works.. but suspected harddisk error
[03:07] <lurah> lol, next time ill check first before copy/pastin :D
[03:07] <DjKritical-> blaat: It only ever installed it all once
[03:07] <DjKritical-> blaat: even then I think I did something wrong because gnome wouldn't boot
[03:07] <DjKritical-> I'm about to delete 120 gigs of windows crap
[03:07] <deFrysk> moe__,  line 26 and 29 you have to add multiverse behind universe
[03:07] <DjKritical-> and use my better harddisk
[03:07] <DjKritical-> and if that doesn't work...
[03:08] <ekimus> at least it has 768mb ram...
[03:08] <ekimus> about as much as hd space :)
[03:08] <DjKritical-> atleast I've got 4 other pcs around the house
[03:08] <DjKritical-> lol!
[03:08] <cafuego> ekimus: If it helps: "cpu MHz: 300.729"
[03:08] <blaat> DjKritical, partitioning = good (that's good). Install went OK (great). Gnome won't boot. Is that your only problem?
[03:08] <moe__> okies thx
[03:08] <DjKritical-> blaat: most of the time it wont get through the instal
[03:08] <webtoe> DjKritical-: I often wipe windows anyway. Keeps it freash and ticking along
[03:08] <blaat> ekimus, mine has 2048 :P
[03:08] <ekimus> cafuego: thanks, i thought i was the only one that acutally has use for old hardware
[03:08] <deFrysk> moe__,  then update and try again ;)
[03:08] <cafuego> (the other cpu in that box also runs at 300.729)
[03:08] <ekimus> blaat: i'd have more but the slots are full :)
[03:08] <blaat> DjKritical, did you ever think it could be a corrupt CD? (happened to me once)
[03:09] <DjKritical-> webtoe: mainly not the operating system,... but windows applications.. and movies...
[03:09] <cafuego> blaat: The Dual Xeon 3.6GHz has 3116968 Mb
[03:09] <ekimus> cafuego: yeah mine is dual too. the good old celeron A 300
[03:09] <DjKritical-> webtoe: there's a lot of that around my lan anyways.. no big loss
[03:09] <cafuego> ekimus: Just pretend you didn't see that
[03:09] <DjKritical-> blaat: yeah covered that
[03:09] <DjKritical-> blaat: did an md5 checksum
[03:09] <ekimus> cafuego: see what ;)
[03:09] <cafuego> ekimus: The 300 is a Dual P2 (Klamath)
[03:09] <blaat> DjKritical, you could also download the Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD) and use the harddisk tools to check your HD and run Memtest (Just to be sure) or even a CPU burnin test :D
[03:09] <webtoe> DjKritical-: i Know the feeling of deleting stuff like that. Its somehow relaxing to watch it go.....
[03:09] <deFrysk> moe__, not line 26 , just line 29
[03:09] <cafuego> it runs at my in-laws, as courier imap/webmail server
[03:10] <DjKritical-> blaat: but if this doesn't work I will be downloading ubuntu and kubuntu again...
[03:10] <moe__> thx for the help, newbie on ubuntu
[03:10] <dawkirst> Greetings.
[03:10] <moe__> been using debian previously
[03:10] <DjKritical-> webtoe: it's also a lot quicker than moving it all! lol
[03:10] <cafuego> Coming to think of it, the dual p2 is probably BUSIER then the dual xeon
[03:10] <DjKritical-> blaat: ultimate boot cd?.. that's an idea
[03:10] <deFrysk> moe__, then it should not be too hard just read the wiki on repositories
[03:10] <dawkirst> Is there any way for me to do a "remote desktop" type of thing to my Ubunu PC at home, from my Windows PC at work?
[03:10] <blaat> DjKritical, if you're on windows, just use Nero (or something) to burn the Ubuntu CD and then select "verify written data" (or something like that)
[03:10] <lurah> is there way to find out SDRAM's mhz from console?
[03:10] <webtoe> DjKritical-: I know, have you tried moving several gigs of stuff over wireless? 802.11b no less?
[03:11] <Thunder000> for some reason, neither hoary nor breezy /j #q8linux
[03:11] <Thunder000> oops
[03:11] <deFrysk> moe__, actually read the wiki all the way :D
[03:11] <blaat> dawkirst, remote desktop... it's in gnome (standard)
[03:11] <webtoe> lurah: no don't think so
[03:11] <lurah> ok
[03:11] <DjKritical-> blaat: I'm quite sure this second cd I burnt came out okay... but I will definately try that if these next steps dont work
[03:11] <moe__> i would like to set it up for my local ubuntu mirror (internode) rather then the us or au one
[03:11] <dawkirst> blaat: will it work between Windows and Ubuntu?
[03:11] <DjKritical-> okay time to repartition... brb
[03:11] <cafuego> lurah: For a 600MHz CPU, it's probably 133MHz, unless it's an RDRAM box.
[03:11] <blaat> DjKritical wait
[03:11] <moe__> do i realy need to mirrormax.net?
[03:11] <DjKritical-> bye bye pr0n!
[03:12] <blaat> DjKritical FIRST get the Ultimate boot cd.... and burn it!
[03:12] <DjKritical-> okay I'm still here blaat :D
[03:12] <lurah> lol. this is compaq (bad word, im sorry) so i guess its like a 75 or 100mhz :D
[03:12] <blaat> DjKritical and maybe Knoppix too. Just to be sure
[03:12] <deFrysk> moe__, I dont use mirrormax
[03:12] <deFrysk> !backports
[03:12] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[03:12] <cafuego> lurah: No, the bus speed on a p3? is 100 or 133.
[03:12] <DjKritical-> blaat: you recon?.. but if it were a ram problem.. I'd be experiencing problems in windows
[03:12] <lurah> ah
[03:12] <DjKritical-> and
[03:12] <blaat> DjKritical if something happens, Testdisk (UBCD) could save your behind and Knoppix could help you partition :D (it's faster than Ubuntu live CD :P)
[03:12] <lurah> ok
[03:12] <cafuego> lurah: more likely the latter
[03:12] <lurah> so only two coises anymore
[03:13] <lurah> choises*
[03:13] <DjKritical-> blaat: if it is a harddisk problem... then I'll be formating the windows drive and using it anyway?
[03:13] <dawkirst> blaat: will it work between Windows and Ubuntu?
[03:13] <webtoe> DjKritical-: RAM is a pain and linux may just be pushing the right sort of data through your RAM to show corruption
[03:13] <cafuego> lurah: Seeing as your CPU runs at UNDER 600MHz, it's probably clocked at 4.5 * 133
[03:13] <cafuego> !4.5*133
[03:13] <ubotu> 598.5
[03:13] <cafuego> See?
[03:13] <blaat> DjKritical, I just want to give you a couple of pointers (things you should look out for). You'll never know
[03:14] <Seveas> !133*2*2*1.25
[03:14] <ubotu> 665
[03:14] <Seveas> ahem
[03:14] <DjKritical-> blaat: Okay if it still doesn't work on this SATA drive... I'll be running hardware diagnostics on everything... I'm sorta happy to do this because isn't SATA faster anyway? so linux will run faster too?
[03:14] <Seveas> !133*2*2*1.125
[03:14] <ubotu> 598.5
[03:14] <blaat> DjKritical, A friend of mine had install probs with Windows XP. The RAM was bad (wrong slot, so many many errors)
[03:15] <lurah> cafuego, thanks
[03:15] <DjKritical-> blaat: but windows xp runs fine? o_O
[03:15] <DjKritical-> or does it...
[03:15] <blaat> DjKritical, I also have a SATA drive (2nd or 3rd HD). Works like a charm :-)
[03:15] <cafuego> !(100+33)*(2**2)*(5/4)
[03:15] <ubotu> 665
[03:15] <blaat> DjKritical, SATA isn't faster, only smaller cables
[03:15] <cafuego> blah ;-)
[03:15] <bluesceada> where to get the kdeedu packages for (k)ubuntu ?
[03:15] <moe__> yay that worked thxt
[03:15] <DjKritical-> I hadn't actually put much thought into it perhaps being a ram problem
[03:15] <cafuego> stupid stupid
[03:16] <cafuego> !(100+33)*(2**2)*(9/8)
[03:16] <ubotu> 598.5
[03:16] <moe__> now i just need to set up a preferenes file to tell it which repositorie to use before it goes to the next and so on
[03:16] <cafuego> yeah
[03:16] <DjKritical-> is there a program that will do diagnostic tests in windows? instead of downloading that ultimate cd?
[03:16] <Seveas> bluesceada, install the kdeedu package...
[03:16] <cafuego> !math
[03:16] <ubotu> bc -l
[03:16] <cafuego> goo'boy
[03:16] <blaat> DjKritical, Memtest could take up to 24-hours to run all the tests! I always do that when I get a new PC, checking everything so I don't regret it later on
[03:16] <moe__> is there a pritable version of the wiki? :P
[03:16] <bluesceada> Seveas: i cant do that ?
[03:16] <bluesceada> i cant find it
[03:16] <blaat> DjKritical, UBCD is better. And it's proven
[03:16] <Seveas> bluesceada, enable universe
[03:17] <bluesceada> ah
[03:17] <bluesceada> one mom
[03:17] <Seveas> !info kdeeudu
[03:17] <Seveas> !info kdeedu
[03:17] <brenner> moe__: file > print? :P
[03:17] <ubotu> kdeedu: (educational apps from the official KDE release), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 44 kB
[03:17] <Thunder000> how can debian sarge detects my laptop DVD-ROM and Ubuntu can't ? :/  I need Ubuntu for my laptop
[03:18] <bluesceada> Seveas: thx
[03:18] <cafuego> Thunder000: Differnt kernels
[03:19] <webtoe> Thunder000: what make laptop and dvd drive?
[03:19] <DjKritical-> blaat: okay... you're rite.
[03:19] <Thunder000> my laptop is Acer TravelMate 4150
[03:20] <brenner> what's sarges default kernel?
[03:20] <DjKritical-> blaat: I'm downloading UBCD with bittorrent now :D
[03:20] <DjKritical-> I wish it wern't so big tho
[03:20] <cafuego> brenner: Check in #debian (2.6.8 I thought)
[03:20] <bluesceada> hm if i want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu .. which packages do i need to remove after i installed the kubuntu ones ?
[03:20] <DjKritical-> might have to pull a sicky off work tomorrow... stay up and get this sorted out
[03:20] <DjKritical-> also...
[03:20] <Cronic> Wow, a real live place for help.
[03:20] <Cronic> Yay
[03:21] <bluesceada> hi
[03:21] <DjKritical-> I'm sure I was told that SATA was faster than IDE?1
[03:21] <Cronic> For some reason, I cannot login to my root account. The Ubuntu setup did not prompt for a root password.
[03:21] <brenner> cafuego: just asking to see if it was more recent....if ubuntu's is newer, i would assume the support issue would have been with the older kernel
[03:21] <bluesceada> Cronic: ubuntu is rootless ... you can sudo -s to get a root console, you then need to give your user password
[03:21] <Cronic> So I made another root account, and set it w/o a password, and logged into the system as this user. - Well when I use the passwd command on this user,a nd type in my password, it replied with I have no set a password
[03:21] <cafuego> brenner: Unless a bug was introduced
[03:21] <bluesceada> your user has admin privileges
[03:21] <Cronic> rootless!?
[03:21] <cafuego> (newer is not always better)
[03:22] <webtoe> DjKritical: SATA is technically faster, but PATA (normal IDE stuff) at 133Mhz will be comparable
[03:22] <brenner> cafuego: ah ok....i was going by the logic of newer kernel, more h/ware support
[03:22] <cafuego> Cronic: u!root
[03:22] <bluesceada> Cronic: it's a desktop linux .. time to make changes ^^ i also wondered first
[03:22] <cafuego> !root
[03:22] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:22] <cafuego> Cronic: Go and read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:22] <Cronic> Interestingly broken.
[03:22] <brenner> "probably disabled"? well is it or isn't it. :)
[03:23] <Seveas> it is
[03:23] <Bags> Having trouble printing to a HP7150 via USB and CUPS. I've a PPC G3 Powerbook and Ubuntu. It sees the printer but the jobs stop in the queue. This machine prints to the very same printer when it's served on a Windows XP machine, but when connected locally, it doesn't work.. .Any ideas?
[03:23] <Seveas> but ubotu has weird ideas about how to answer :)
[03:23] <cafuego> Cronic: (basically, the idea is you 1) run sudo from the shell and 2) X tools prompt for your USER password, if you're in the admin group
[03:23] <Cronic> Wild...
[03:23] <brenner> hehe
[03:23] <Cronic> Thanks guys.
[03:23] <hatake_kakashi> anyone would happen to know how to disable the use of IPv6 and use only IPv4?
[03:24] <cafuego> Cronic: That's a refreshing change from the usual "omg, ubuntu is retarded i need root!" response ;-)
[03:24] <pitti> pvanhoof: btw, I tried Lyx in the past, but never liked it -- vi foo.tex works much better for me :-)
[03:25] <pvanhoof> yeah :). But I'm new with latex and wanted to know what makes content not split on page break (and I dislike \pagebreak)
[03:25] <nenduvel> which decoder do you need to play avi and mpeg files?
[03:25] <pvanhoof> I was hoping Lyx was going to give me an answer :)
[03:25] <brenner> oooh, a wysiwyg LaTeX editor?  neat
[03:25] <cafuego> nenduvel: depends on what's in the avi
[03:25] <pitti> pvanhoof: but \pagebreak _does_ a break, not avoid it
[03:25] <cafuego> nenduvel: 'w32codecs' should see you sorted in most cases
[03:25] <pvanhoof> pitti, indeed, but I could use it just above the block etc
[03:26] <pitti> pvanhoof: \nopagebreak might do what you want, but only for 2 or 3 lines
[03:26] <pitti> brenner: WYSIAWYG (almost)
[03:26] <inc7> still cant get realplayer to work, also cant get helix to work, anyone know of a .bin file that they know works on amd64 ubuntu
[03:26] <pvanhoof> but I'm going to try your suggestion \begin{figure} \end{figure}
[03:26] <pitti> pvanhoof: no, that's evil
[03:26] <pvanhoof> right?
[03:26] <cafuego> inc7: No. Run them in a 32bit chroot.
[03:26] <pitti> pvanhoof: figure is a float object and probably not what you want
[03:26] <Ng> inc7: it works in a 32bit chroot, they don't have a 64bit version
[03:26] <inc7> how?
[03:26] <pvanhoof> quote?
[03:26] <pitti> pvanhoof: try a quote block for a start
[03:26] <Seveas> !chroot
[03:26] <ubotu> chroot is, like, at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:26] <pvanhoof> ok
[03:27] <inc7> how do i get in a 32bit root
[03:27] <cafuego> inc7: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:27] <inc7> thatks
[03:28] <cafuego> Maybe Ubuntu AMD64 needs a big displaimer-popup before it installs: "Java, Flash, DivX & XviD AVIs and DVDs will NOT work!"
[03:28] <moe__> thx for the help. i'm off cya
[03:29] <inc7> wow man, im a newbie to linux
[03:29] <Ng> cafuego: Ubuntu i386 doesn't install any of those things, so why should it? ;)
[03:30] <inc7> gonna take a bit to undertsnad what it s doin
[03:30] <cafuego> Ng: Because they _can_ work on i386, but not on amd64.
[03:31] <Ng> cafuego: I know what you're getting at, but it doesn't seem appropriate for Ubuntu to go out of its way to tell you that software which is against the good of Ubuntu isn't going to work ;)
[03:31] <batoms> does anyone else still get the .dmrc error when logging into X
[03:32] <batoms> i can't find anything in bugzilla about it
[03:33] <navilon> join /linux
[03:33] <cafuego> Ng: I thought that was the Debian policy, whereas Ubuntu was focusing on making it EASY for Desktop users to use Linux.
[03:33] <navilon> opps
[03:33] <navilon> sorry
[03:33] <cafuego> Ng: and they ALL want flash and Java in firefox
[03:34] <goomez> buenasssssssssssssss
[03:34] <navilon> hola
[03:34] <pitti> pvanhoof: btw, you know "info latex"? very helpful sometimes
[03:35] <goomez> pero este canal en que idioma es
[03:35] <goomez> jaja
[03:35] <pvanhoof> ok
[03:35] <navilon> sorry, that was about all the spanish i know
[03:35] <goomez> No hay nadie aqui que hable espaol?
[03:36] <goomez> soy el unico?
[03:36] <kemik> Ubuntu devels should try and make mediastuff easier to setup, ie; mp3, divx, flash etc.etc
[03:36] <batoms> yo puedo usar babelfish
[03:36] <brenner> !es
[03:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:36] <goomez> gracias
[03:36] <webtoe> kermik: ubuntu would love to but patents stop it
[03:36] <goomez> thanks
[03:37] <webtoe> kermik: you need licenses (or might need them) for most the things you just mentioned. or atleast the end user needs to agree to a contract
[03:37] <kemik> webtoe:  well, put all with nice packageing in extras ;)
[03:37] <kemik> or something.. as it is now it's just too hard for the newbi to install
[03:37] <kemik> (or so it seems)
[03:38] <brenner> obviously i need to read up on patent law, but if they're so bad, why are we allowed to install them as seperate packages?
[03:38] <webtoe> kermik: they would do but flash for example needs the user to agree to their terms through their webpage and legal obstacles stop ubuntu from distributing it
[03:38] <aigarius> webtoe, that is true, but that should not stop making a package called ubuntu-multimedia-extras that installs all the patented stuff (after enogh shouting at the user about patents and stuff)
[03:39] <aigarius> brenner, there are both patent issues (mp3, divx, ...) and copyright issues (Flash, Java)
[03:39] <webtoe> its not just patents but contracts. Most companies force as user to agree to a contract. this contract is written for the user to agree to and specifically deny people distributing it in any other form
[03:39] <Crystufer> thank god I finally made it in here.
[03:39] <brenner> ah, ok
[03:40] <brenner> i don't recall reading any disclaimers when i installed mp3/vid codecs capability though
[03:40] <Crystufer> Hey guys, is it worth trying to run ubuntu on a pentium 1?
[03:40] <kemik> webtoe:  mmh it sucks ;)
[03:40] <Seveas> Crystufer, yes, but not with gnome
[03:40] <Seveas> you need either no GUI or openbox
[03:40] <webtoe> divx makes you i think but don't remember. mp3's its a legal grey area where the patent holders could suddenly start asking for money
[03:40] <aigarius> still a programm that lets you click trough all needed disclaimers, EULAS and patent warning and then downloads and installs everything could be very usefull
[03:40] <Crystufer> So then I'd have to run it from the command line?
[03:41] <webtoe> aigarius: yes that would be better but probably not a priority i suppose
[03:41] <brenner> Crystufer: openbox is a more lightweight desktop environ.....there are others out there, xfce to name another
[03:41] <aigarius> webtoe, jep. we should propably propose it as a goal for the next release
[03:42] <dbee> Is anybody having problems connecting to Seavens blackbird test server repository lately ?????
[03:42] <brenner> Crystufer: in other words, no you don't *have* to use CL only, but running the default gnome might be sluggish
[03:42] <webtoe> hmmmm would of thought writing a small python/gtk app shouldn't be too hard but not sure
[03:42] <Crystufer> So it is gonna run uber slow until I switch desktop environments?
[03:42] <webtoe> not much of a programmer myself
[03:42] <aigarius> Crystufer, memory is also a very important issue
[03:42] <Crystufer> aigarius,  about 46 mb
[03:43] <brenner> 46?
[03:43] <Crystufer> lemme check
[03:43] <Seveas> Crystufer, :|
[03:43] <Seveas> that's gonna be slow anyway
[03:43] <Crystufer> 48
[03:43] <Crystufer> Yeah. I figured as much.
[03:44] <webtoe> Crystufer: maybe try another distro like slackware. then recompile your own kernel with stuff lopped out and pentium specific stuff in. then make sure the graphics card is set up right and run a light window manage
[03:44] <Crystufer> The alternative is windows. I'll go find a sharp stick.
[03:44] <Crystufer> webtoe, man, I can't do all that stuff.
[03:44] <aigarius> Crystufer, then it will be horribly slow, but I have run IceWm, sylpheed and some kind of a browser on 64 Mb and Pentium 233 MMX a few years ago
[03:45] <webtoe> well, even without recompiling the kernel it should be ok
[03:45] <kemik> Crystufer:  look into Vector Linux and icewm perhaps?
[03:45] <kemik> Crystufer:  i'm running debian-serverinstall and icewm on a p2-233 64mb ram box, and it's slow :)
[03:45] <webtoe> do you know what graphics card you have? i would try a different distro though. The only reason i suggested slack was because of its minimalism.
[03:46] <Crystufer> kemik, I'm just gonna deal with windows.
[03:46] <blaat> DjKritical, you still there?
[03:46] <chet> damn small linux for low powered systems?
[03:46] <aigarius> webtoe, debian is not fatter then slackware
[03:46] <Crystufer> thanks guys.
[03:46] <kemik> Crystufer:  well win98 is no walk in the park installing if you dont' have all the device-drivers
[03:46] <dbee> I'm having serious trouble trying to get a j2re running on my system, it tells me that the libc isn't right ?? anyone suggest a solution ?
[03:47] <Crystufer> I can download them. Toshiba has a nice collection of old drivers.
[03:47] <kemik> so have your driver-pack ready, and be prepared to reboot a trillion times ;)
[03:47] <Crystufer> good call kemik
[03:47] <blaat> DjKritical, one more thing. What kind of graphics card do you have??? (I think it was a Geforce 6800 problem, that Gnome wasn't booting). You'll need to search ubuntuforums.org
[03:48] <Crystufer> Anybody got a audigy zs?
[03:48] <chet> iven ever had a nice video card, but does ubuntu work well with nvidia?
[03:48] <webtoe> aigarius: i know its just i know slack default install has no x or anything set up, just drops you to command line and iknow it :D
[03:48] <Crystufer> And running ubuntu?
[03:48] <deprave> how do i go about having certain applications start when x starts?
[03:48] <aigarius> webtoe, same in debian :)
[03:49] <brenner> deprave: sys > prefs > sessions > startup progs maybe?
[03:49] <chet> good call brenner
[03:49] <brenner> need to be using gnome though
[03:49] <aigarius> deprave, either use gnome-session or make a new gdm session entery or make your own .xstartup script (if you use startx to start X)
[03:50] <webtoe> aigarius: ubuntu is my first debian like install
[03:51] <Crystufer> webtoe dito I'm running it on my mac.
[03:51] <hmrocha> hello
[03:52] <hmrocha> i need some help
[03:52] <deprave> hmrocha : ask your question
[03:52] <Xappe> ah, kyuss and forum surfing...that's life :)
[03:52] <webtoe> hmrocha: you came to the right place
[03:52] <eolo> hi, wich are the repositories for win32codecs?
[03:53] <brenner> webtoe: what if he wants someone to help him move furniture? :)
[03:53] <hmrocha> i'm switching all computers of my college from mandrake to ubuntu
[03:53] <aigarius> hmrocha, good call :)
[03:53] <webtoe> brenner: then i'll hop on a plane and be there as soon as possible :P
[03:53] <webtoe> i concur, good idea. never liked mandrake much...
[03:53] <hmrocha> we use a system that allows us to install the os in a box, and deploy the os to some computers
[03:53] <eolo> please reps for w32codecs
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> Seveas, i got errors installing sun jdk from Seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> can help ?
[03:53] <deFrysk> !w32codecs
[03:53] <hmrocha> what i want to do is, use the same image for all kinds of pc's
[03:54] <webtoe> hmrocha: over the network? server has the image and pushes it to the clients?
[03:54] <hmrocha> is that possible?
[03:54] <deFrysk> ! w32codecs
[03:54] <hmrocha> webtoe, yes, over the network
[03:54] <eolo> yes!! just to watch divx
[03:54] <hmrocha> all clients boot from PXE
[03:54] <deFrysk> ! restricted formats
[03:54] <ubotu> well, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:54] <webtoe> hmrocha: yes it is.  I have that at university (though they use a customised gentoo) not sure on the details though
[03:54] <hmrocha> a client turns on the computer and it prompts the user for winxp or ubuntu
[03:54] <webtoe> Linux Terminal Services is what you need i think
[03:54] <webtoe> yeah
[03:54] <webtoe> hang on and i'll google for it
[03:55] <hmrocha> they choose ubuntu and the system download the image to the hard disk
[03:55] <hmrocha> then boots
[03:55] <aigarius> hmrocha, is the sistem your are talking about already in place for Mandrake?
[03:55] <hmrocha> i created a script to configure the machine once i have ubuntu installed
[03:55] <webtoe> http://www.ltsp.org/
[03:55] <hmrocha> aigarius, yes, but they use a different image for each kind of pc
[03:56] <webtoe> think that's the system that's usually used
[03:56] <hmrocha> aigarius, previous system administrators
[03:56] <chet> i have a trackball mouse with like 7 buttons, are there any guides on getting it fully functional under ubuntu?
[03:56] <hmrocha> i'd like to use one image for all the pc's
[03:56] <aigarius> hmrocha, you could try to just try it. ubuntu handles hardware changes quite nicely
[03:56] <hmrocha> i have discovered one problem, ubuntu installation sets the hostname in /etc/hosts with the hostname set on the installation
[03:57] <Co> HI, anybody here knows about some good editor for PHP embedded in HTML for using on Ubuntu?
[03:57] <aigarius> hmrocha, try DHCP for that
[03:57] <hmrocha> aigarius, i tried, but it doesn't detect the cdrw on this machine
[03:57] <cheeby> hi.  has anyone here switched from gentoo for a production server?
[03:57] <apokryphos> Co: Quanta+
[03:57] <hmrocha> aigarius, the computer i installed the os is a dell with just a combo drive
[03:57] <chet> from gentoo to ubuntu for server? why not just use debian?
[03:57] <hmrocha> this computer is a fujitsu siemens with a cdrom drive and a cdrw
[03:57] <Co> thanks apokryphos
[03:58] <hmrocha> in Places->Computer only one drive appears
[03:58] <aigarius> hmrocha, yes, the devices have propably changed - if the writer was /dev/hdc at install and is /dev/hdd now, then the /etc/fstab will be wrong
[03:59] <hmrocha> aigarius, so, i'll have to create a script that changes the fstab for each kind of computer right?
[03:59] <aigarius> yes
[03:59] <cheeby> chet, I don't disagree.  just asking about ubuntu.  seems like less hassle to maintain.
[03:59] <Jowi> Hi all, when running "free -t" to see the "-/+ buffers/cache". 50% of my used up memory lies there as cached - 240MB. How can I see which program is using most cache?
[03:59] <webtoe> hmrocha: what sort of drive is it? weird that isn't not detected. Most ATAPI drivs should be detected at least for reading
[04:00] <aigarius> hmrocha, have you tried computers with different video cards? did the redetection go correctly there?
[04:00] <webtoe> hmrocha: still, you could have just one image, and in the boot script have a test for this one machine
[04:00] <aigarius> webtoe, IIRC ubuntu doesn't redetect IDE devices on bootup
[04:00] <hmrocha> aigarius, the video cards are different but it worked fine
[04:01] <aigarius> hmrocha, that is really good news. ubuntu X hackers worked quite a lot on that one :)
[04:01] <eolo> w32codecs repository FOR AMD64
[04:02] <brenner>  AMD64? See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:02] <brenner> [off ubotu's reply] 
[04:02] <hmrocha> aigarius, i'm very happy for changing by boss' mind, she wanted mandrake
[04:03] <dbee> Hi, I get a 'can't stat source package list' when I try to connect with seavas' server for the updated j2re package. Anybody have any suggestions ?
[04:03] <brenner> hmrocha: if they're used to kde, might be worth going for kubuntu
[04:03] <hmrocha> brenner, no, almost no one uses linux because the mandrake images were the worst thing ever
[04:04] <deFrysk> might even be worth switching to gnome ;)
[04:04] <brenner> ah, ok :)
[04:05] <brenner> *nod*  first time i've heard of mandrake being chosen for that role actually ... it's usually fedora
[04:05] <webtoe> airarius: doesn't ubuntu recheck? the kernel does each time it boots it searches for ide drives. Setting up mount points is the job of /etc/fstab but labs will probably have the same setup on each disk (and if not they shoudl!)
[04:05] <webtoe> hmrocha: I suggest reading up on the hotplug subsystem as well since it might be able to aid in autodetection
[04:05] <inc7> debian 386 for amd64?
[04:05] <inc7> or powerpc, is powerpc mac or?
[04:06] <Crystufer> powerpc is macs
[04:06] <hmrocha> brenner, everyone will like ubuntu (i hope so)
[04:07] <brenner> hmrocha: think you mistook me, kubuntu is pretty much ubuntu, but with kde instead of ubuntu's gnome
[04:07] <webtoe> hmrocha: if they dont like ubuntu send them on here and we'll give them a talking to
[04:07] <hmrocha> brenner, but i want students to use gnome ;)
[04:07] <inc7> not good for some programs tho
[04:07] <inc7> and i need realplayer for streams
[04:07] <inc7> should be priority for them workin on 64bit code
[04:07] <Sonderblade> i have configured a printer with system->administration->printers and i can print a test page but i can't print to it from any other program
[04:07] <hmrocha> webtoe, i'm good at changing people's minds too :)
[04:08] <aigarius> webtoe, the thing is that /etc/fstab is not updated on boot, so the new IDE devices are not usable until it updated by the admin.
[04:08] <inc7> gettin a 32 bit enviroment is crazy, should i install ubuntu 32 bit?
[04:08] <hmrocha> aigarius, i'll just do a "echo /dev/hda.... >> /etc/fstab"
[04:08] <hmrocha> it should work
[04:09] <inc7> i just dont wanna go back to ms but i want everythin to work
[04:09] <brenner> hmrocha: ah, ok... *i* misundestood you then. :)
[04:09] <hmrocha> aigarius, the only problem is knowing what kind of pc's i'm booting in
[04:10] <hmrocha> aigarius, i still don't know how to change the hostname on boot
[04:11] <frans-th> hi all
[04:11] <frans-th> back from work
[04:11] <frans-th> anyone canonical person here?
[04:11] <aigarius> hmrocha, if you are talking about that CD drive problem, then chect /proc/ide/
[04:11] <frans-th> i want asking about offline media repo
[04:11] <hmrocha> running dhclient should change the hostname?
[04:12] <aigarius> hmrocha, how about making a hostname from the last digit of the IP address
[04:12] <ginger_> usb on hoary? anyone?
[04:12] <frans-th> alo
[04:12] <rittap> hi all
[04:12] <brenner> usb what?
[04:12] <frans-th> anyone can help me?
[04:12] <frans-th> i need a how to make DVD based on hoary repo
[04:12] <apokryphos> frans-th: hi :). Did you not get a reply by email?
[04:12] <ginger_> i reinstalled and now have no signs of usb life
[04:12] <hmrocha> aigarius, dhcp gives hostnames like lab-1226 being 1 the building, 2 the floor and 26 the room
[04:13] <ginger_> it worked in warty
[04:13] <hmrocha> aigarius, with the room, i know the kind of the pc
[04:13] <ginger_> then i did a clean reinstall
[04:13] <ginger_> and upgraded to hoary from apt
[04:13] <frans-th> what email? i not receive your email but paul :P
[04:13] <ginger_> and no signs of life
[04:13] <frans-th> how r u there apokrypt
[04:13] <DjKritical-> if your computer turns off during the ram test included in UBCD... is that bad? :D
[04:13] <frans-th> the canonical guy not reply my email :(
[04:13] <apokryphos> very good thanks :)
[04:14] <apokryphos> frans-th: it's worth waiting, they're busy guys
[04:14] <apokryphos> frans-th: I'd say give it a week or so
[04:14] <Sonderblade> lpr filename prints, gedit prints but firefox and abiword are not able to print why?
[04:14] <frans-th> the good news, goverment agree to make the donation of PC become 80% ubuntu, 20% widnows :)
[04:14] <frans-th> see, who is the sponsor :P microsoft :P
[04:14] <apokryphos> frans-th: nice!
[04:14] <frans-th> and total PC is 800 :) see 800 ubuntu :)
[04:14] <frans-th> and they agree to use ubuntu hoary
[04:14] <aigarius> hmrocha, I am looking into /etc/dhcp3/ to see if there is an option to use hostname from dhcp
[04:15] <frans-th> and my team here will support it :) and we will do in voluntaire based:)
[04:15] <apokryphos> nice =)
[04:15] <hmrocha> aigarius, thanks
[04:15] <frans-th> so , i just must think how to make survive and the support of those pc stil can work
[04:15] <brenner> ginger_: search the forum while you wait
[04:15] <brenner> *for a response
[04:15] <frans-th> but need the how to or DVD of offline media to distribute
[04:16] <apokryphos> yeah
[04:16] <frans-th> what r u doing there apokrpt :P
[04:16] <frans-th> do you have skype :P
[04:16] <apokryphos> I don't unfortunately, no.
[04:17] <frans-th> :P
[04:17] <apokryphos> Not doing much; just staying here, addicted to IRC. :P
[04:17] <evanpro> I gotta question about OpenOffice.org2 on Breezy
[04:17] <evanpro> I just upgraded, and I get a message "no suitable windowing system found, exiting." when I try to start an oo.o program
[04:17] <frans-th> hehe,
[04:17] <frans-th> anyway, i still have question
[04:18] <frans-th> why in ubuntu no have a common repo, so the repo wil be use by all ubuntu, from warty to breezy
[04:18] <frans-th> can you help?
[04:18] <reagleBRKLN> how do i make entice the login manager? when i install it, it doesn't configure itself like {k,g}dm.
[04:18] <frans-th> i think wasting time managing several repo for one use, esp, upgrade mozilla :P
[04:18] <aigarius> hmrocha, you must make the /etc/hostname file empty or use "(none)" as hostname for the hostname replacement to work
[04:18] <dbee> Why does this connection string in scripts give me a can't stat source package list "http://seavas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu universe" ... pls help !
[04:19] <apokryphos> frans-th: because there's different versions
[04:19] <aigarius> hmrocha, see /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-script function set_hostname()
[04:19] <apokryphos> frans-th: breezy, for example, is going to be the new ones. It's what the devs are working on now. It was very unstable a few weeks ago
[04:19] <frans-th> apokrypt: and will breeze have a common repo?
[04:20] <frans-th> i think, my repo will work lie this, i will delete all the non newest repo, and push everyone to use the newest one
[04:20] <hmrocha> aigarius, thanks, i'll look into that
[04:20] <frans-th> what do you think apkrypt?
[04:20] <apokryphos> frans-th: breezy have a common repo  -- what do you mean?
[04:20] <benkong2> Is there one command that will let me install kde? apt-get install kde apt-get install kde-desktop kubuntu kubuntu-desktop etc. all fail. I ahve added the kubutu repos in synaptic. but no go. //:-p
[04:20] <brenner> dbee: probably 'cos you spelt seveas wrong. :)
[04:21] <ginger_> brenner, i'll keep looking. at this point it looks like most people have specific device issues
[04:21] <frans-th> common repo, is the repo that will use by breezy and newest ubuntu
[04:21] <aigarius> dbee, because the needed package list file ("Packages.gz" or .bz2) could not be downloaded. there must be other errors above - about "not found" or "connection error"
[04:21] <brenner> benkong2: install kubuntu-desktop
[04:21] <benkong2> brenner, i'll try thanks
[04:21] <brenner> benkong2: then choose it from the sessions menu at the login screen
[04:21] <apokryphos> frans-th: breezy *is* the newest ubuntu. But it's not out offically yet
[04:22] <Gul3> hello. i try to unrar a 2GB rar file, but unrar leavs me a CRC failed message.. what does that mean, and what do i do?
[04:22] <frans-th> apokryp: this is only a case :P,
[04:22] <frans-th> is my idea about make push to newest version is cool?
[04:22] <dbee> brenner: ya, sorry about that ... I miss spelt it on the irc only though ... the real connection string is ok
[04:22] <frans-th> so the ubuntu support from my repo only the newest - 1 version
[04:22] <Letis> hi, I installed ubuntu 5.04, shouldnt it be able to play MP3s as default or do I need special codecs? Because when I start Rhthmbox, i
[04:22] <apokryphos> That could be cool, yes.
[04:22] <aigarius> frans-th, breezy is not stable enough for broad use.
[04:22] <benkong2> brenner, I get Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <Letis> t does not see the file
[04:23] <frans-th> yah, my repo will start from hoary :P
[04:23] <aigarius> frans-th, too much work going on
[04:23] <apokryphos> frans-th: If Indonesia had repositories for the latest stable, then that would be good
[04:23] <apokryphos> frans-th: good idea
[04:23] <frans-th> and will add to breeze (the stable)...
[04:23] <brenner> dbee: why not ask the man himself?  (this is the 1st i've heard of Seveas having his own repo!) :)
[04:23] <frans-th> i think there is a repo for ubuntu in indonesia, vlsm.org that repo the debian, repo the ubuntu also :) i will take a look,
[04:23] <Gul3> hello. i try to unrar a 2GB rar file, but unrar leavs me a CRC failed message.. what does that mean, and what do i do? please..
[04:23] <apokryphos> frans-th: when breezy is stable you can have that there too, yes.
[04:24] <frans-th> bu the owner is not reply my email :( that is bad, i know the owner well :(
[04:24] <brenner> benkong2: seomthings up with your sources.list
[04:24] <apokryphos> frans-th: cool
[04:24] <apokryphos> frans-th: that's a shame :O
[04:24] <brenner> benkong2: try replacing it with this:
[04:24] <brenner> !repos
[04:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:24] <frans-th> yah, i will add breeze stable repo also, but i think our team will support onlye the newest -1 :)
[04:24] <brenner> benkong2: (the pastebin link) and then sudo apt-get update
[04:24] <frans-th> but i think unbuntu must have a common repo :)
[04:24] <frans-th> like apache2, php, it is coomon, will use by all ubuntu version right
[04:24] <benkong2> brenner, my repos are ##Kubuntu deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main deb-src http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342/ hoary-updates main
[04:24] <benkong2> ok
[04:24] <frans-th> i will manage the common repo here :P
[04:25] <apokryphos> frans-th: nope; because packages are built for different versions
[04:25] <dbee> aigarius: I seem to be getting a connection refused http err message ... all night long ... ahhh ! ... the web server is up though, cause I'm on his page at the moment
[04:25] <dePOLL> erm.. guys.. what is an "upstream Alioth package" resp. where do i get it?
[04:25] <brenner> benkong2: afaik, bad idea to use kubuntu repos with ubuntu :)
[04:25] <frans-th> apokrypt: build different? what is that mean..
[04:25] <frans-th> apok: i think apache2 is same :P
[04:25] <frans-th> it is webserver right
[04:26] <benkong2> brenner, oh going to pastebin brb
[04:26] <apokryphos> frans-th: my apache2 (on breezy) won't work on an apache2 for Hoary :)
[04:26] <brenner> dbee: what instructions are you following anyway? the wiki for java points to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[04:26] <StrikeForce> whats the command to find the UTC time
[04:26] <StrikeForce> time something?
[04:26] <dbee> brenner: that's probably a good idea, he was on here earlier and I would have thought that he'd mention if his server was down ... on the otherhand though he may not have known himself
[04:26] <brenner> dbee: i can't see any mention of a seveas repo in that
[04:26] <frans-th> apok: how can be? apache have different version?
[04:26] <frans-th> sarge and woody, share the same apache2 repo, this is a good idae
[04:27] <apokryphos> frans-th: partly, but also because the distributions change. The core (and essential) packages change, so when apache is made, it has different needs
[04:27] <dbee> brenner: I've been surfing the net most of the day, I got the instructions from here actually ... about 2hrs ago
[04:27] <apokryphos> frans-th: so that applications run faster in future versions
[04:27] <zblach> g'morning
[04:27] <brenner> dbee: define 'here'. :)
[04:27] <dbee> brenner: here as in #ubuntu irc
[04:27] <zblach> anyone know anything about wireless networking?
[04:27] <frans-th> apok: i have a case, i have warty, i want install apache 2.0.58,
[04:28] <frans-th> apok: i have hoary with apache 2.0.57, and the apache-2.0.58.deb
[04:28] <apokryphos> !find apache warty
[04:28] <brenner> dbee: maybe i should've asked "who"? :)
[04:28] <frans-th> how can i cannot install it :) it same source :(
[04:28] <apokryphos> frans-th: there is no apache2 in Warty
[04:28] <frans-th> what is cononical team doing with this both version? so make those different
[04:28] <zblach> i am unable to find any wireless networks using my card, but its fine in windows
[04:28] <apokryphos> frans-th: it was only built (made) for Hoary
[04:29] <bina> #debian-bot
[04:29] <bina> whoops :)
[04:29] <frans-th> apok: what is build made?
[04:29] <frans-th> apok: build on hoary?
[04:29] <bina> ok, that chan doesnt exist anyway :)
[04:29] <benkong2> brenner, look here at my repos please? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1601
[04:29] <apokryphos> frans-th: yes. Warty is very different to Hoary.
[04:29] <dbee> brenner: I wanted to use a repository if possible because I'm having a bit of trouble with the development tools .. namely the make program that is there - but isn't actually there at all ... I'm a bit of a unix newbie !
[04:29] <larsrohdin> hi, im trying to install java runtime environmetn so i can install azureus... but i don't really understand what iam supposed to do... I've downloaded the .bin file from Sun, and ran it with sh foo.bin.... then what?
[04:30] <apokryphos> frans-th: it's like trying to use Ubuntu apache package on Debian :)
[04:30] <dbee> brenner: seavas himself was posting here a while ago, I presume that it was the man himself
[04:30] <brenner> dbee: i would assume so
[04:30] <frans-th> alo
[04:30] <brenner> dbee: for make, you can install build-essential
[04:30] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell larsrohdin about java
[04:30] <brenner> dbee: but if you want to install java, i'd just follow the wiki
[04:31] <webtoe> !java
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:31] <webtoe> see that
[04:31] <hmrocha> aigarius, i was looking to the set_hostname function
[04:31] <hmrocha> aigarius, but i can't find where it sets $new_host_name
[04:31] <brenner> benkong2: personally, i'd comment out bakcports, extras, kubuntu ones, and cdrom
[04:31] <apokryphos> frans-th: just so you see, try typing apok and then hit the <tab> button
[04:31] <hmrocha> aigarius, strange
[04:32] <dbee> brenner: ya, I installed build-essential but I still have a make problem somewhere ... anyway I think you are right, I'll try the wiki method ... thanks and all the best
[04:32] <apokryphos> brenner: erm, why?
[04:32] <twibbler> does anybody know of any problems with skype under ubuntu ?.
[04:32] <icewt> twibbler, it works fine for me
[04:32] <rittap> no problems here too
[04:33] <frans-th> apok: sorry dics
[04:33] <brenner> apokryphos: apokryphos er, i was under the impression you should stick with main, uni amdn multi, only enabling others when you need a certain package, and to comment them out again after use
[04:33] <frans-th> apok: what is the different of those
[04:33] <twibbler> icewt: it keeps not sending the message like connection issue ...
[04:33] <aigarius> hmrocha, it is getting it from the caller script IIRC. try it
[04:33] <tcpip> is wiki updated for hoary/amd64
[04:33] <apokryphos> brenner: incorrect
[04:33] <apokryphos> frans-th: many, many differences
[04:33] <brenner> dbee: hopefully your future experiences with linux aren't as frustrating :)
[04:33] <zblach> no wireless gurus?
[04:33] <benkong2> brenner, ok working.....
[04:34] <frans-th> apok: i am glad if you can explain, so i can explain to the user also here
[04:34] <brenner> benkong2: goodo
[04:34] <webtoe> zblach: what card do you have and what drivers you using?
[04:34] <apokryphos> !breezy
[04:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[04:34] <icewt> twibbler, what do you mean?
[04:34] <brenner> apokryphos: so the others are safe to always have enabled?
[04:34] <apokryphos> frans-th: see that link above for changes in breezy
[04:34] <survivor> I have no clue how to setup ubuntu to use both monitors, can anyone point me into the right direction manpage-wise?
[04:34] <apokryphos> brenner: you shouldn't have marillat; hoary-extras is your own choice, really; it had packages which were of questionable legality. Kubuntu one of course is fine to always have
[04:34] <frans-th> apok: i am reading
[04:35] <apokryphos> Backports it is of course fine to always have; it's an Ubuntu sub-project
[04:35] <frans-th> apok: i just dont get the point, how can same apps, same distro, but have several version
[04:35] <twibbler> icewt: I type in an instant message and it doesn't send .. and I cant connect a phone conversation ...gaim irc etc all working great so I know its not the network or internet connection ...
[04:35] <twibbler> also works fine on windoze PC ...
[04:35] <icewt> twibbler, hm..
[04:35] <apokryphos> frans-th: it's exactly the same for all distributions. Check Mandrake, Redhat, Fedora, Debian etc etc
[04:35] <brenner> apokryphos: ok, then, thanks for the lesson. :)
[04:35] <twibbler> icwt: exactly ...
[04:35] <icewt> twibbler, are you sure you're online with it?-)
[04:36] <twibbler> I installed the debian package from skype site and it shows online ... as I can send two messages the it stops ..
[04:36] <frans-th> apok: but i think if we can get the common thing that will be cool, ubuntu is one manufacturer, redhat, mandriva and suse, 3 companies
[04:36] <brenner> apokryphos: but what about the times i've heard where people have broken their systems using backports?
[04:36] <tott> damn.. i need help.. :S
[04:36] <survivor> Anyone used ubuntu with more than one monitor?
[04:36] <frans-th> apok: hoary, breeze, is only version :(
[04:36] <nico_> hello
[04:36] <apokryphos> brenner: that was likely referring to the old backport system (which was backports + hoary-extras) -- didn't used to be official
[04:37] <Hoxzer> what is good place to search linux drivers?
[04:37] <frans-th> apok: i use debian repo : ) for apache 2 upgrade, work well :P
[04:37] <brenner> apokryphos: ah, ok
[04:37] <apokryphos> shaky
[04:37] <hmrocha> aigarius, i can't find that iirc script
[04:37] <frans-th> all: what is backport?
[04:37] <tott> anyone got time to help? got a resolution prob..
[04:37] <brenner> survivor: ati or nvidia?
[04:37] <survivor> nvidia
[04:37] <survivor> GeForce4 MX440
[04:38] <rittap> tott: what for resolution prob??
[04:38] <brenner> tott: let me guess, can't access higher res'?
[04:38] <tott> rittap: yeah!
[04:38] <twibbler> icewt: just got skype icon on start menu ... not had that before ...
[04:38] <rittap> tott: you sure your video supports it
[04:39] <brenner> tott: was that yeah for me?
[04:39] <tott_> yes.. sorry.
[04:39] <brice_> I've been having problems connecting to aim using naim...do I need to forward any ports to my linux box?
[04:39] <brenner> survivor: i'd search the forums
[04:39] <survivor> thanks, will do
[04:39] <brenner> tott:
[04:39] <brenner> !fixres
[04:39] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:39] <icewt> twibbler, all i know is that when i first fired it up and created an account, it somehow looked like it already was online, but it wasn't untill i did something i can't quite remember. but if you are able to send a few messages with it..
[04:40] <rittap> repost to tott: you sure your video card supports it
[04:40] <tott_> brenner: tried that..
[04:40] <rittap> tott: if it does:
[04:40] <twibbler> icewt: yep but now got Message "message" not delivered yet ... arrrgggghhhhh sounds like a wiki search .
[04:40] <benkong2> brenner, you and ubotu ; are awesome its working flawlessly \\:-D
[04:40] <rittap> then fixres is the option
[04:40] <brenner> benkong2: ubotu's a bot :)
[04:41] <brenner> tott: ok, then i'll walk you through ... post your xorg.conf to the pastebin in the topic
[04:41] <benkong2> brenner, I no but whoever made the bot it sure gives good info
[04:41] <inc7> hi, anyone know how i burn an iso imag to a cd
[04:41] <aigarius> hmrocha, I meant that if I recall correctly (IIRC), then it gets the params from another script
[04:41] <brenner> benkong2: everyone contributed to the trigger replies :)
[04:41] <Kyral> hey, anyone know how to set "universal" permissions on an ext3 drive?
[04:41] <apokryphos> benkong2: anyone can contribute to the bot
[04:41] <tott_> brenner: ok thanks.
[04:41] <inc7> gives me the option to extract, do i first then burn?
[04:41] <Kyral> ie, make it so anyone can have full access to it?
[04:42] <tsw> hi all, Im having strange problem with my ibm thinkpad. I booted it today and I cant get pcmcia to work. /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart says "pcmcia not present" (running 2.6.10-5-686) any ideas where to look. it worked fine few days ago
[04:42] <benkong2> cool I must learn how some day as my linux skill improves
[04:42] <rittap> inc7: many programs support burning an iso already
[04:42] <rittap> inc7: else unpacking is a good option
[04:42] <twibbler> icewt: could it be the port settings in advanced .....
[04:42] <brenner> !lis!tell benkong2 about list
[04:42] <ubotu> Wish i knew, brenner
[04:42] <rittap> inc7:but make sure that the folder structure remains intact
[04:42] <brenner> !tell benkong2 about list
[04:43] <brice_> When I connect with  naim...it prompts me for my password...but never completes the connection...it just sits tehre forever.  Any suggestions?
[04:43] <apokryphos> benkong2: just use the syntax: ubotu: X is at http://something.com
[04:43] <Kyral> anyone?
[04:43] <apokryphos> benkong2: you can do via /msg too
[04:43] <twibbler> cwert: like it says use port 80... but I have apache installed on the laptop.
[04:43] <bina> when using apt-get install wine, i get the error  wine: Depends: libwine (= 0.0.20050310-1.1) but 0.0.20050419-1~5.04ubp1 is to be installed.  Is there some way I can stop this, or change it so as that package wont be isntalled and the other will?
[04:43] <bina> will it do much damage if i just force it n ignore it :)
[04:44] <benkong2> apokryphos, brenner ; thanks
[04:44] <tsw> anyone with pcmcia knowledge?
[04:45] <tott_> brenner: pasted som stuff.. need more?
[04:46] <brenner> tott: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[04:46] <hmrocha> aigarius, reading the script, if the hostname is *null*, it sets the hostname
[04:47] <hmrocha> aigarius, so i changed the hostname to "" and ran dhclient, it worked perfectly
[04:47] <tott_> okie
[04:47] <aigarius> hmrocha, great
[04:47] <rod> hi
[04:47] <Thunder000> is there a way to insall ubuntu using a network installation ?
[04:47] <rod> im here to help
[04:47] <larsrohdin> ok, since you just pointed me to wiki.ubuntu.com/java, where it says "NB: the hoary-extras mirrors seem to have problems now (24 aug)." Maybe someone can tell me when it will be fixed?
[04:47] <brenner> tott: just checking: you wanted 1024 as your default res?
[04:47] <rod> Thunder000, you can do a server install and then apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <tott_> brenner: no.. that's what i got now.. would like 1600*1200
[04:48] <brenner> tott: ok, first things first, what did the command above return?
[04:48] <tott_> brenner: nothing
[04:49] <brenner> tott: eek, means we can't autodetect your monitor rates, we'll try using 1600 anyway
[04:49] <tott_> ok
[04:49] <brenner> tott: er, do you know how to use a console editor?  (in case things stuff up)
[04:50] <mrdeath> hello all
[04:50] <tott_> not really..
[04:50] <benji> Anyone here ever have a problem when connecting with naim?  It prompts me for my password, but never fully connects.
[04:50] <brenner> er, ok then: 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf etc/X11/xorg.backup'
[04:50] <tott_> brenner: but if things fuck up i could just boot win.
[04:50] <mrdeath> i'm trying to build new initrd for 2.6.12 kernel, and can't figure my problem out
[04:50] <mrdeath> mkinitrd -o./initrd.new 2.6.12-7-686
[04:51] <brenner> tott: booting win won't fix things though :)
[04:51] <mrdeath> at the end i'm got no such image
[04:51] <tott_> brenner: done
[04:51] <jbailey> mrdeath: What are you doing that needs a new initrd?
[04:51] <brenner> tott: do that to make a backup copy
[04:51] <tott_> brenne: hehe.. nope..
[04:51] <tott_> brenner: ok.. done
[04:51] <jbailey> mrdeath: -o really wants an absolute path.
[04:51] <brenner> tott: ok, we're gonna edit the file, before we do, write this down somewhere
[04:51] <mrdeath> jbailey: with default initrd  system come to kernel panic
[04:51] <jbailey> mrdeath: This is current breezy?
[04:52] <brenner> tott: sudo cp etc/X11/xorg.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:52] <mrdeath> jbailey: it seems that it try to boot with lvm
[04:52] <mrdeath> jbailey: yep
[04:52] <jbailey> mrdeath: Great, let's troubleshoot that first.
[04:52] <brenner> tott: that will revert to the original copy
[04:52] <jbailey> mrdeath: Are you using lilo or grub as your bootloader?
[04:52] <mrdeath> jbailey: lilo
[04:52] <brenner> tott: if X doesn't start for some reason after we edit this file, type that and you should be able to get back in
[04:53] <jbailey> mrdeath: For now, edit your /etc/lilo.conf file and add append = "root=/dev/FOO", replacing FOO with whatever is on the root line above that.
[04:53] <tott_> brenner: ok
[04:53] <brenner> tott: done? now, see the lines with 1024X768?
[04:53] <tott_> yes
[04:53] <Thunder000> how can I install Ubuntu from am image on another machine (Network Install ) ?
[04:54] <brenner> tott: insert 1600x1200 before 1024, so the line should look like:
[04:54] <mrdeath> jbailey: i allready have /dev/hda2 there. or F00 is new udev name?
[04:54] <brenner> Modes                "1600x1200" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[04:54] <tott_> okies
[04:54] <brenner> tott: correction: edit _all_ the mode lines to that
[04:54] <mrdeath> jbailey: /whois jbailey
[04:54] <tott_> ok.
[04:54] <mrdeath> ups
[04:55] <morbidi> Thunder000: do the machines are equal ?
[04:55] <brenner> tott_: tell me when you're done
[04:55] <jbailey> mrdeath: You already have append="root=/dev/hda2" ?
[04:55] <morbidi> I think if you want a equal instalation you can do rsync -a
[04:55] <jbailey> mrdeath: Or do you just have root=/dev/hda2 ?
[04:55] <tott_> brenner: will do
[04:55] <mrdeath> jbailey: nope. no append
[04:55] <mrdeath> okay. i will try to add it
[04:56] <jbailey> mrdeath: You need to add the append line for now.
[04:56] <mrdeath> okay
[04:56] <mrdeath> jbailey: be right back after reboot
[04:57] <kerry_> newbie
[04:57] <kerry_> I am having video problems after instal
[04:57] <kerry_> my monitor is blank
[04:57] <kerry_> anyone have any ideas
[04:57] <Kyral> Nothing at all?
[04:57] <cyprinus> compiling program give me an information back: error libz not found - please install libz-devel
[04:57] <kerry_> total darkness
[04:57] <brenner> when does it go blank?
[04:57] <cyprinus> how can I do it in the easiest way?
[04:58] <brenner> is the monitor still on though?
[04:58] <Kyral> cyprinus, I'm not seeing in the Repos
[04:58] <kerry_> I have gotten it completely through the install and I remove the cd and then it does the intial restart  and then it goes blank
[04:58] <cyprinus> how can I place it in Repos?
[04:59] <hmrocha> aigarius, ok, the hostname problem is solved, now, the *new* ide drive
[04:59] <Jowi> kerry_: you have to be more precise. do you get past the boormanager?
[04:59] <cyprinus> dpkg -i libz-devel*
[04:59] <cyprinus> doesn't do anything
[04:59] <hmrocha> aigarius, i should create a /media/cdrom1 and add the entry to the fstab
[04:59] <cyprinus> next error
[04:59] <cyprinus> Kyral?
[05:00] <hmrocha> Xenguy, :D
[05:00] <Kyral> I did an Apt-cache search for it
[05:00] <Xenguy> ;-)
[05:00] <Evil> elo all :)
[05:00] <mrdeath> jbailey: no luck
[05:00] <fluffybunny_> i seem to be having issues with sound -->  every mp3 or other sound file I play (using XMMS) seems to be distorted (you know like the sound you get when the volume is too loud?) --> how do I fix this?
[05:00] <jbailey> mrdeath: Did you rerun 'lilo' before you rebooted?
[05:00] <mrdeath> jbailey: kernel says that 'no /dev/hda2 found'
[05:00] <mrdeath> jbailey: yep
[05:00] <brenner> fluffybunny_: lower your volumes
[05:01] <webtoe> fluffybunny_: I used to have this problem if the volume was turned to hi for PCM in the volume control
[05:01] <jbailey> mrdeath: What's the output of lsmod | grep ^ide_core
[05:01] <jbailey>  ?
[05:01] <kerry_> any ideas on my monitor
[05:01] <mrdeath> jbailey: ide_core              130384  27 ide_disk,ide_generic,via82cxxx,trm290,triflex,slc90e66,sis5513,siimage,serverworks,sc1200,rz1000,piix,pdc202xx_old,opti621,ns87415,hpt366,hpt34x,generic,cy82c693,cs5530,cs5520,cmd64x,atiixp,amd74xx,alim15x3,aec62xx,pdc202xx_new
[05:01] <benkong2> brenner, apokryphos ; woopieeee it works of to check out KDE
[05:01] <brenner> kerry_: after the reboot? do you hear your HDD working?  that's when the packages are being configured
[05:01] <fluffybunny_> brenner: and webtoe: that doesn't seem to help?
[05:02] <kerry_> yeah
[05:02] <apokryphos> benkong2: nice!
[05:02] <mrdeath> jbailey: i use kernel from debian testing now
[05:02] <medamaybe> hi@all
[05:02] <kerry_> for awhile then it quits
[05:02] <brenner> fluffybunny_: what output plugin you using?
[05:02] <jbailey> mrdeath: Can you /msg me the entire output of your lsmod output?  (Don't flood it in here)
[05:02] <Poromies> fluffybunny_: try to adjust your mixer / alsamixer settings.. i had a problem like that, and it was coz alsamixer had my "line-out" at full 100%
[05:02] <medamaybe> does anyone know why I can't add my "volume control applet" to any panels?
[05:02] <mrdeath> jbailey: sure
[05:02] <Jowi> kerry_: you can try to turn off the framebuffer before installation (press F7 at install boot screen to see how)
[05:02] <brenner> kerry_: can you get to the grub menu?
[05:02] <Poromies> at 90% soundquality was perfect
[05:02] <Chadza> Anyoe have an idea as to a program that could save a webpage and everything that is up to 2 links away from it?
[05:03] <kerry_> grub?is that right at start up?
[05:03] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> can anyone help me please? i'm really noob though
[05:03] <fluffybunny_> brenner and Poromies : uhm.. noob here... how do I (a) check what output plugin I'm using, and/or adjust alsamixer?
[05:03] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> ah just read topic :P
[05:03] <brenner> fluffybunny_: for the plugin, ctrl+p in xmms, then look in the plugins area, change the output plugin to esound
[05:04] <brenner> fluffybunny_: for alsamixer, type alsamixer in a terminal
[05:04] <webtoe> Chadza: have you looked at curl or wget?
[05:04] <Oewyn> !ndiswrapper
[05:04] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:04] <tott> brenner: it worked.. thanks alot!  :D
[05:04] <webtoe> !curl
[05:04] <ubotu> webtoe: Are you smoking crack?
[05:04] <brenner> tott: nice
[05:05] <webtoe> lol
[05:05] <webtoe> !wget
[05:05] <ubotu> webtoe: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:05] <brenner> tott: copy the xorg.conf somewhere in case you need to do a reinstall
[05:05] <brenner> tott: but i guess you know how to fix it now anyways :)
[05:05] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> i got an error when installing ubuntu to my partition that i made for the install, and when i progress it asks me to log in with the account details i set up, so i do, but there is no graphics its all just text...
[05:05] <tott> brenner: yeah.. ;)
[05:06] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> i know that's the dumbest question ever posted here
[05:06] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> but i have nfi :(
[05:06] <Jowi> ScOrPiO-MoFF: there was no question in what you wrote.
[05:06] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> that makes it even dumber lol
[05:06] <xenomeliteforce> isn't it possible to use audio output for >1 applications simultaneously with alsa?
[05:06] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> erm well how can i fix that?
[05:07] <Jowi> ScOrPiO-MoFF: fix exactly what? your internet connection?
[05:07] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: yes it is
[05:07] <EasterSunshine> !info curl
[05:07] <Oewyn> whenever i run ndiswrapper , i get this error code when i try to load my winxp driver something about a parsing error... Do i need to use the latest version of Ndiswraper instead of the one that came with Hoary?
[05:07] <ubotu> curl: (Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server), section web, is optional. Version: 7.12.3-2ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 161 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[05:08] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> how can i get my ubuntu install to show me something that isn't just text... like GUI... if that's the right term
[05:08] <brenner> ScOrPiO-MoFF: so you log in, but you just get a command line prompt?
[05:08] <apokryphos> ScOrPiO-MoFF: what happens when you hit startx?
[05:08] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> yes
[05:08] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> there is no startx
[05:08] <brenner> ScOrPiO-MoFF: type it in
[05:08] <EasterSunshine> ScOrPiO-MoFF: did you do a server install?
[05:08] <Jowi> ScOrPiO-MoFF: are you talking about the installation process or after Ubuntu has installed?
[05:09] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> LOL i'm so stupid, sorry :(
[05:09] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> after it's installed
[05:09] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> but an error occurs in installation
[05:09] <ioboss> hi
[05:09] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> and takes me to that screen
[05:09] <brenner> ScOrPiO-MoFF: no, you're not stupid....not your fault
[05:09] <ioboss> where i can download new login-teme?
[05:09] <apokryphos> ScOrPiO-MoFF: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <survivor> I need a package that's only available for Breezy (Boost 1.32) but have Hoary.
[05:10] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> k i'll write that down, thanks
[05:10] <survivor> What's the best route to get that?
[05:10] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: But when I use XMMS (with ALSA output) and then start Unreal Tournament 2004, I get no sound in UT (here I can only choose "OpenAL") :/
[05:10] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[05:10] <Ng> survivor: upgrade to breezy (unstable), wait for breezy to be released (october) or try and recompile the package yourself
[05:10] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: at the bottom
[05:10] <EasterSunshine> survivor: i have heard of some that changes hoary to breezy in their sources.list, installed the package, and change their srouces.list back
[05:10] <fluffybunny_> Sound distortion: playing with alsamixer doesn't help at all. i've been told to ask if ubuntu uses arts or esd?
[05:10] <apokryphos> EasterSunshine: shaky business
[05:11] <Ng> EasterSunshine: that's asking for trouble ;)
[05:11] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: thank you. I'll read it
[05:11] <sproingie> fluffybunny_: ubuntu uses esd, kubuntu uses arts
[05:11] <brenner> fluffybunny_: did you try and change the output plugin?
[05:11] <xenomeliteforce> only used a German wiki before :)
[05:11] <survivor> Ng: How do I update to breezy?
[05:11] <EasterSunshine> sproingie: that's wierd, i'm on kubuntu using esd...
[05:11] <EasterSunshine> !upgrade2breezy
[05:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, upgrade2breezy is sudo sed -e 's/hoary/breezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:11] <sproingie> survivor: if you have to ask, grasshoppa, you are not ready
[05:11] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> apokryphos: thanks for the advice! i will try, and come back if i have any problems
[05:11] <znh> hello
[05:11] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: are you german? :)
[05:12] <Ng> survivor: see what ubotu just said, but be aware that it is unstable and not yet released - it may not work!
[05:12] <sproingie> uboto, upgrade2breezy is also if and when it breaks your computer, you get to keep both pieces
[05:12] <fluffybunny_> brenner: yes - I changed to esound output plugin - should i cycle through the other options and see if that helps?
[05:12] <znh> I just installed ubuntu with the 'server' prefix.. now I'd like to install a graphical X server.. but how?
[05:12] <sproingie> argh
[05:12] <sproingie> why do i keep misspelling the bot's name
[05:12] <brenner> fluffybunny_: no, changing it to anything else probably won't change much
[05:12] <ioboss> where i can download gnome teme
[05:12] <brenner> fluffybunny_: er, have you tried any other media players?
[05:12] <granden> If I use apt-get install on the live cd will that work and if yes where is the program being isntalled I dont wanna write anything to my hdd?
[05:12] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: Yes. And you are Austrian, right?
[05:12] <apokryphos> sproingie: ubo<tab> :P
[05:12] <brenner> fluffybunny_: beep-media-player maybe?
[05:12] <znh> apokryphos: hiya
[05:13] <apokryphos> hi
[05:13] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: lol, no, australian :)
[05:13] <znh> apokryphos: any idea's how to get the X server running from the base installation?
[05:13] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: Whoops :D I only read ".au" iin your hostmask ^^
[05:13] <fluffybunny_> brenner: well, i've tried media player, but that doesn't work at all - let me download and install beep-media-player and get back to you
[05:13] <granden> If I use apt-get install on the live cd will that work and if yes where is the program being isntalled I dont wanna write anything to my hdd?
[05:13] <apokryphos> znh: yes; install ubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <znh> apokryphos: I've get the xserver-xorg pacakge, but vncserver cries about 'can't found found fixed
[05:13] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: yes, easy to confuse ... i think austria is at
[05:13] <znh> apokryphos: ah ok :)
[05:14] <brenner> fluffybunny_: need to change the output plugin to esound in bmp
[05:14] <fluffybunny_> brenner: ok, will do
[05:15] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: Yes, that's right. And "Brenner" is a German word, so I thought you were located around Germany ;)
[05:15] <brenner> granden: afaik, you can't install stuff with the live cd
[05:15] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: lol.  no i chose it for something else. :)
[05:15] <pradeep> hi, can anyone tell me how to make my  my mouse scroll more lines?
[05:16] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: ok. "Brenner" means burner. Just for your information ;)
[05:16] <apokryphos> pradeep: have you not tried Settings -> Mouse (or whatever). I'd imagine it would be there
[05:16] <funky> hi
[05:16] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: ah, cool
[05:16] <EasterSunshine> what do i mean in german?
[05:16] <xenomeliteforce> Easter: ^^
[05:16] <levander`> There's is any way to open a mail file on the file system with thunderbird?
[05:16] <brenner> EasterSunshine: grumpy old man
[05:16] <pradeep> apokryphos: no it isnt , unfortunately
[05:16] <funky> too much months with no X system in my breezy, last time i try to use an ubuntu unstable branch :(
[05:17] <brenner> levander`: associate it with thunderbird
[05:17] <Funraiser> to launch a sh it's "sh blabla.sh" right?
[05:17] <znh> Funraiser: or if there's a #!/bin/sh tag at the beginning of the sh file, you can also do ./yourfilename.sh
[05:17] <xenomeliteforce> is the ubuntu wiki down atm?
[05:17] <Funraiser> oh
[05:17] <chrissturm> is there a time tracking program in ubuntu?
[05:18] <brenner> xenomeliteforce: seems ok
[05:18] <levander> brenner: associate it with thunderbird in nautilus? you sure that works?
[05:18] <chrissturm> i would like to create tasks, and then just click when i work on a trask
[05:18] <chrissturm> task
[05:18] <apokryphos> xenomeliteforce: no
[05:18] <Funraiser> znh, and how do u launch a jar?
[05:18] <brenner> levander: no. :)
[05:18] <znh> Funraiser: you need java runtimes for it
[05:18] <brenner> levander: but wortha  shot
[05:18] <Funraiser> i have
[05:18] <chrissturm> and when i stop working on it. and afterwards i would like to see what tasks took how long
[05:18] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: it's loading since you told me so read the article :(
[05:18] <znh> Funraiser: they are also called 'jre', try googling at jre 1.4 linux
[05:18] <Funraiser> znh, i already have it
[05:19] <Funraiser> znh (azureus)
[05:19] <zblach> where can I get VLC for hoary?
[05:19] <Funraiser> znh, when i double click on it it doesn't open
[05:19] <znh> Funraiser: they you do /yourjavapathinstallationhere/bin/java -jar myjarfile.jar
[05:19] <Funraiser> oh
[05:19] <znh> zblach: sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:19] <pradeep> apokryphos: is it set in xorg conf?
[05:19] <znh> Funraiser: *then, and it has to be done in a terminal
[05:19] <apokryphos> pradeep: No. It's a user setting; I know how to do it from KDE...
[05:19] <zblach> znh, thanks
[05:20] <znh> zblach: very welcome
[05:20] <xenomeliteforce> has anyone get a "Trust Spacecam 120" working with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04?
[05:20] <Funraiser> znh, ok thanks are u the new pro in da place?
[05:20] <znh> xenomeliteforce: trust is untrustable.. I broke two joysticks from those guys by just playing games with it
[05:20] <zblach> znh, E: Couldn't find package vlc
[05:20] <znh> Funraiser: new.. no, pro.. depends :)
[05:21] <Funraiser> thanks
[05:21] <pradeep> apokryphos: how for gtk apps?
[05:21] <znh> zblach: then you might have to run sudo apt-setup, and chose http or ftp
[05:21] <zblach> thanks
[05:21] <xenomeliteforce> zhn: I don't play with my webcam THAT extremely ;) Just wanna watch me from the distance
[05:21] <Funraiser> u wanna watch you?
[05:21] <znh> :P
[05:21] <Funraiser> :-)
[05:22] <znh> xenomeliteforce: I think you need to get special drivers for your webcam, isn't that easy as installing a package through apt-get
[05:22] <chrissturm> xenomeliteforce, maybe a mirror would work better
[05:22] <Funraiser> lol
[05:22] <Funraiser> it works on hoary (mirrors)
[05:22] <fluffybunny_> brenner: installed beep-media-player. sounds great when I use the ALSA output plugin, sound sucks (same as XMMS) when I use esound...
[05:22] <apokryphos> pradeep: no idea, I'm afraid
[05:22] <brenner> fluffybunny_: but alsa's ok?
[05:22] <znh> chrissturm: mirrors always break when you watch in it
[05:22] <xenomeliteforce> chrissturm: If you can tell me how my chat partner can see my mirror picture above the internet, that would be ok ;)
[05:23] <fluffybunny_> brenner: alsa's great (on beep-media-player) --> all the output plugins for XMMS suck
[05:23] <znh> xenomeliteforce: there a chat application that supports webcam afaik
[05:23] <tombs> hi ppl
[05:23] <znh> xenomeliteforce: *not
[05:23] <xenomeliteforce> znh: I tried using the nw802 drivers. I was able to build them, but I can't get them running :/
[05:23] <znh> xenomeliteforce: try sudo modprobe nw802
[05:23] <xenomeliteforce> znh: AMSN or Mercury Messenger supports webcam chat
[05:23] <Ignignokt> yo hello i am new to the whole linux scene and i am having some problems with my firefox profile, can anyone lend me a hand?
[05:24] <znh> xenomeliteforce: woot :/!
[05:24] <brenner> fluffybunny_: interesing, but anyway, you've got sound now :)
[05:24] <Funraiser> xenomeliteforce, gnomemeeting supports webcams chat
[05:24] <jhelgason> lving ubuntu hoary with enlightenment!
[05:24] <fluffybunny_> brenner: pity, cause I had heard that XMMS was "the best".. oh well, thanks for the help :)
[05:24] <jhelgason> luving*
[05:24] <Unreal_IX> How do I install the latest Gnome in Ubuntu?
[05:24] <znh> jhelgason: yeah.. E is awesome dudey
[05:24] <pradeep> all, can someone help me increase my mouse scroll rate?
[05:24] <znh> Unreal_IX: afaik I know, it's sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:25] <Ignignokt> whenever i open firefox, it forces me to make a new profile, and i cannot save the profile in the firefox directory, can anyone help?
[05:25] <brenner> fluffybunny_: no probs
[05:25] <xenomeliteforce> Funraiser: in gnomeeting my webcam works (but it's really bright. Adjusting the settings doesn't have any effect). I think the problem is, that AMSN and Mercury Messenger are using V4L. GnomeMeeting only works if I choose V4L2
[05:25] <znh> Ignignokt: I think firefox doesn't have permissions to write data to your firefox directory
[05:25] <xenomeliteforce> znh: FATAL: Module nw802 not found.
[05:25] <bina> some configure script is asking me to export the path to qt as QTDIR, problem is I dont know which to choose form.  would it be /etc/qt3 /usr/lib/qt3 /usr/linclude/qt3 or /usr/share/qt3?
[05:25] <znh> xenomeliteforce: hmm, have you done make install after building?
[05:25] <xenomeliteforce> znh: and insmod <.ko file> doesn't work, too
[05:26] <xenomeliteforce> znh: no. I did "make clean", "make" and then I tried "insmod"
[05:26] <znh> xenomeliteforce: hmm make install might do the last stuff
[05:26] <brenner> pradeep: i could be wrong, but that might be done through xorg
[05:26] <xenomeliteforce> znh: There is no rule for "make install" in the Makefile
[05:26] <webtoe> bina: i think /usr/includ/qt3 if you're compiling a program
[05:26] <znh> xenomeliteforce: aw.. that's a pitty
[05:26] <bina> webtoe: sweet, thanks
[05:26] <webtoe> bina: or maybe /usr/lib/
[05:26] <uthini> guys
[05:26] <webtoe> it will complain ifits wrong
[05:27] <znh> uthini: don't forget the girls
[05:27] <bina> webtoe: thanks.
[05:27] <Funraiser> xenomeliteforce, i think that gnomemeeting and netmeeting are compatible
[05:27] <xenomeliteforce> brenner: lol. Now I know why the whiki didn't load. On my virtual desktop a security window appeared -_-
[05:27] <uthini> hi girls
[05:27] <brenner> znh: there are none
[05:27] <Funraiser> xenomeliteforce, not sure though
[05:27] <pradeep> brenner, i increase the mousewheelinertia and restarted the X to no vail
[05:27] <znh> brenner: I think your wrong then
[05:28] <xenomeliteforce> Funraiser: Yes, they should be compatible with each other. But like I said: I can't adjust the camera brightness :-/
[05:28] <brenner> znh: i guess i am then :)
[05:28] <EasterSunshine> uthini: what would make you think that
[05:28] <brenner> pradeep: yeah, not sure really, sorry ... should be easily googable though
[05:28] <Seveas> znh, if you add vanity entries to ubotu one more time you will be banned permanently.
[05:29] <znh> Seveas: hi there
[05:29] <Funraiser> vanity entries?
[05:29] <znh> Seveas: I don't want to be anonying.. but I didn't do anything last months?
[05:29] <Seveas> you're luck I made a typo in the ban last time
[05:29] <Funraiser> that's illegal now?
[05:29] <Seveas> Funraiser, has always been..
[05:29] <chrissturm> seveas: fix the bot
[05:29] <Seveas> chrissturm, why?
[05:30] <Seveas> and what?
[05:30] <chrissturm> a bot like this needs authorized users
[05:30] <znh> chrissturm: no, the problem was at me.. I was just being anonying
[05:30] <Seveas> chrissturm, no, everybody should be able to contribute
[05:30] <chrissturm> ok
[05:30] <znh> Seveas: but why do you complain me..? I didn't do anything (except that !gnome, but that was a very while ago!)
[05:31] <Seveas>  !dixi and !znh entries were there z few days ago
[05:31] <ubotu> Seveas: Not a clue
[05:31] <Seveas> with your hostmask as adder...
[05:31] <znh> Seveas: so.. it was very seriouse?
[05:31] <MiPu> Mmm... got "little" problem with Ubunto... I mean... I installed it on my laptop... Acer Aspire 5020 serie (5024 WLMi)... It works fine... Exepect it does not find my laptop keyboard or mouse...
[05:31] <TokenBad> what was the file to edit for the apt-get servers again?
[05:31] <MiPu> I need to use my USB keyboard and mouse.
[05:31] <Seveas> znh, you have been warned before about bot abuse...
[05:31] <Ng> TokenBad: /etc/apt/source.list
[05:31] <Seveas> sources.list
[05:31] <Ng> TokenBad: sorry, sources.list
[05:31] <Ng> Seveas: ;)
[05:31] <znh> Seveas: I wasn't abusing, I don't get the clue
[05:31] <MiPu> Pease msg me if you got any idea how to fix this.
[05:32] <znh> Seveas: I just want to notice people that knew me, that I changed my name - ubotu was a great way too do that..
[05:32] <Funraiser> who would have guessed that the biggest censor of a community would be the community itself...
[05:32] <Seveas> znh, thats stupid.
[05:32] <Seveas> and pointless
[05:32] <Seveas> and bot abuse
[05:32] <znh> Seveas: well sorry then if you find it asusing :/
[05:32] <Funraiser> amusing?
[05:33] <Funraiser> lol
[05:33] <znh> *abusing
[05:33] <nebris> hi
[05:34] <TokenBad> thanks Ng
[05:34] <nebris> I want to remove hotplug from startup, but I can't find any link to it's start script under /etc/rc2.d where is it located?
[05:34] <Seveas> rcS.d
[05:35] <Funraiser> me/ is showing a mirror to znh
[05:35] <Funraiser> oupps...broken!
[05:35] <znh> oh that makes me happy :+
[05:35] <nebris> Seveas, but my default init level is the second
[05:35] <nebris> doesn't matter?
[05:35] <Seveas> nebris, rcS is always used
[05:35] <nebris> ok, thank you very much
[05:35] <znh> nebris: the S is the prefix for Start
[05:35] <Seveas> not in this case...
[05:36] <znh> oh :)
[05:36] <nebris> i thought it was the folder for single user scripts
[05:36] <MiPu> Did anyone even read my message? =)
[05:36] <monkeypoo> is there any difference between distros other than these: the kernel installed, the versions and types of packages, and the philosophy of how those packages should be updated?
[05:36] <znh> ...
[05:37] <Oewyn> whenever i run ndiswrapper , i get this error code when i try to load my winxp driver something about a parsing error... Do i need to use the latest version of Ndiswraper instead of the one that came with Hoary?
[05:37] <Ng> MiPu: laptop errors tend to be quite specific, it might be worth asking on the mailing list, or maybe reporting a bug if it's not working with the builtin keyboard?
[05:37] <znh> monkeypoo: yep there's difference
[05:37] <bina> is it quite safe to add debian sources to my apt-get sources list?
[05:37] <adjacent> does the us.releases.ubuntu.com throttle downloads?
[05:37] <znh> bina: that depends on WHAT repo
[05:37] <monkeypoo> what would those differences be then?
[05:37] <Seveas> monkeypoo, the speed of security updates
[05:37] <MiPu> Ng, builtin keyboard/mouse does not work
[05:37] <Seveas> the quality of packaging
[05:37] <Seveas> the quality of integration
[05:37] <Seveas> the support & community
[05:37] <MiPu> But, they worked on Live test...
[05:37] <znh> monkeypoo: ubuntu is more faced to be a up2date distrobution, and to be newbie friendly
[05:38] <bina> znh: well, i was gna add http://apt.agnula.org/demudi.  u heard nething bad about that one?
[05:38] <Seveas> bina, no it is NOT safe
[05:38] <Seveas> use ubuntu repositories
[05:38] <bina> Seveas: damn :'(
[05:38] <MiPu> And now I have installed it to hard drive, it does not work anymore
[05:38] <bina> ok
[05:38] <znh> bina: haven't heard of it, and follow Seveas advice.. he's more known with the repo's
[05:38] <Seveas> bina, that one might be ok
[05:38] <Ng> MiPu: that's very odd. I don't have a laptop unfortuantely, so I'm not very familiar with them, and I guess nobody else here at the moment is, so I would suggest reporting it to bugzilla.ubuntu.com and/or the ubuntu-users mailing list
[05:38] <Seveas> it's not a 'debian repository' but 'a repository with .deb files'
[05:38] <MiPu> Okey.
[05:39] <Seveas> and I heard good things about this specific one
[05:39] <granden> If I isntall an app with apt-get install when I am using the live cd where will the program be isntalled?
[05:39] <granden> on the hdd or ram memory?
[05:39] <xerath> lo
[05:39] <Seveas> granden, memory
[05:39] <bina> znh, Seveas: all I want to do is install an newer version of Muse. u think thatll be ok?
[05:39] <znh> granden: depends
[05:39] <granden> znh: depends on what?
[05:39] <Seveas> bina, if you get no odd dependency warnings it should be ok
[05:39] <monkeypoo> i'm thinking of switching distros. but i'm sure it won't do any good. i have an ati card. 9600 mobility to be exact.
[05:39] <Want3d> why wont my MS intellimouse work on the Breezy install version, but works fine on 5.04?
[05:40] <znh> granden: If you configured it too install it on harddisk, it would be installed on the harddisk - don't know if this is possible anywho
[05:40] <monkeypoo> i just got slackware to work with x and the drivers but can't get 3d. (that's another issue) but now I can't get the proper resolution 1280x800 and i've heard that ATI took out the option to pick that rez.
[05:40] <granden> Seveas so its no dangerous to isntall an app with apt get cause if it will be isntalled on the HDD my sysadmin at school will prolly kill me
[05:40] <Ng> Want3d: breezy is unstable, report a bug :)
[05:40] <Seveas> Want3d, check bugzille. If the bug isn;t files -> file it
[05:40] <bina> Seveas: wicked. Thanks. you too znh
[05:40] <znh> Ng: breezy is currently a bug :)
[05:40] <Seveas> granden, correct
[05:40] <granden> good
[05:40] <survivor>  X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h <- a lib I want to compile needs this; anyone got an idea which package I need to get that file?
[05:40] <snareguy> quick question- where do i input a cvs command within Gnome?
[05:40] <znh> bina: welcome as far I am helpfull
[05:40] <Want3d> anyway i can get my mouse working correctly on it?
[05:41] <Ng> survivor: you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search for filenames in packages
[05:41] <bretzel> I have to logout thankx all :-) I may be back under the diff. user tho :-) 67% download and still remaining 1 hour....I just hope that alinux.iso @ ibiblio foes have FTP::"resume" feature otherwize, my actual iso file is lost !
[05:41] <brenner> snareguy: using a terminal i would assume
[05:41] <Want3d> it wont scroll
[05:41] <brenner> snareguy: apps > sys tool > terminal
[05:41] <Ng> survivor: in this case it looks like you want libxxf86vm-dev
[05:41] <Seveas> Want3d, some Zaxis mapping thing
[05:41] <Seveas> hold on
[05:42] <Ignignokt> hello, i have encountered another problem, how do i get "owner" status on my PC, or change the permissions of folders -pm me or message with answer, ty
[05:42] <snareguy> oh... hmmm... says cvs command not recognized
[05:42] <Seveas> Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
[05:42] <Seveas> add that to xorg.conf in the mouse section
[05:42] <bretzel> OOOOOPSSSS!!!! sorry I am stupid - wrong channel!!!!!!!!
[05:42] <Ng> shame that X sucks at doing mice with lots of buttons and scrolling :/
[05:42] <EasterSunshine> Ignignokt: the command chown is used to change the owner of a file or folder, chmod changes the permissions
[05:42] <bretzel> hahahahaha
[05:42] <Oewyn> can anyone help me out with a ndiswrapper problem?
[05:42] <TokenBad> hmm
[05:42] <Ng> I have to jump through hoops to get my 10 button one working ;)
[05:42] <brenner> monkeypoo: fixing the res might be done by editing xorg.conf (or the xfree86 equiv.) (never used slack)
[05:43] <survivor> Ng: Thanks a lot! Makes sense, too.
[05:43] <Ignignokt> ty eastersunshin!
[05:43] <TokenBad> just tried to get the java stuff that says on howto page but says not there..and already updated the reps sites...and did the apt-get update
[05:43] <TokenBad> did that file change?
[05:43] <monkeypoo> i edited that but it keeps reverting to 1024x768
[05:43] <bina> Seveas, znh: hmm, ok then, I dont think ill use that.  Tried to get rid of half of KDE :)
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> Ignignokt: and if you can use sudo without problem, then you should already have like ownership over your computer
[05:43] <Seveas> bina *g*
[05:43] <snareguy> bash tells me that cvs is not a recognizable command
[05:43] <brenner> monkeypoo: what driver?
[05:43] <EasterSunshine> Ignignokt: it means you are in the admin group
[05:43] <Seveas> snareguy, then install cvs...
[05:44] <granden> what graphical editors is there in the live cd of ubuntu?
[05:44] <nate_> Does anyone know how to set the output directory in Grip?
[05:44] <brenner> gedit probably
[05:44] <chrismy> could anyone help me with http://imagebin.org/3269
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> granden: i'll get gedit
[05:44] <granden> ok
[05:44] <EasterSunshine> granden: and xemacs should be in the repos, not really a big install
[05:44] <monkeypoo> i use the latest 8.16.20 ati driver with xorg.
[05:45] <EasterSunshine> s/get/bet
[05:45] <TokenBad> did the file sun-j2re1.5 change?
[05:46] <rod> how to repair a rar archive in ubuntu breezy?
[05:46] <brenner> monkeypoo: well, can't really help 'cos you're using slackware, but what i think we have the fglrx drivers available which are different from official ati, iirc
[05:46] <apokryphos> TokenBad: it's no longer in hoary-extras
[05:46] <landotter> granden, if you want lighter than the default gedit, grab mousepad or leafpad via synaptic. :)
[05:46] <apokryphos> rod: repair?
[05:46] <TokenBad> so how install it apokryphos?
[05:46] <chrismy> how do i fix my packages?
[05:47] <apokryphos> !tell TokenBad about java
[05:47] <rod> apokryphos, i get some crc errors... In the windows version of rar i can repair it
[05:47] <rod> not sure how to repair it in ubuntu
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> rod: winrar had a archive repairing feature, i guess you could run that over wine if its not too much hassle, i don't konw if there are any pure linux archivers that can repair rars
[05:47] <apokryphos> check the man page for rar; if it's not possible, then I don't know
[05:47] <monkeypoo> i read a post somewhere saying someone updated to the new drivers and they lost the 1280x800 res.
[05:47] <snareguy> how do i get these blasted files off of the desktop? says i don't have permission, but I thouht there was no root account Ubuntu
[05:47] <apokryphos> snareguy: there isn't, but there is still root permissions, and files owned by root
[05:48] <rod> EasilyOdd, i have unrar-nonfree, guess that is the underlying command line which is also used in the windows version?
[05:48] <Seveas> snareguy, sudo chown 1000:1000 ~/Desktop
[05:48] <Seveas> snareguy, sudo chown -R 1000:1000 ~/Desktop
[05:48] <znh> hmm does the package 'smbfs' not exist anymore?
[05:48] <nate_> Has anybody else used Grip and knows how to set where the files are ripped to?
[05:48] <apokryphos> !info smbfs
[05:48] <ubotu> smbfs: (mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 340 kB, Installed size: 816 kB
[05:48] <Seveas> !info smbfs breezy
[05:48] <ubotu> smbfs: (mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 346 kB, Installed size: 820 kB
[05:48] <Seveas> there
[05:48] <znh> apokryphos: it says it's refered to some other package
[05:49] <apokryphos> znh: referred but doesn't exist?
[05:49] <znh> apokryphos: better said: "has no installation candidate"
[05:49] <Want3d> anyone know if gnome 2.12 will be added to Breezy (stable version of it)
[05:49] <rod> yes it will Want3d
[05:49] <apokryphos> znh: then apparently -- yes
[05:50] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> There was a problem installing the selected software. One or more packages failed to install. This may be due to bugs in the packages, or you may be out of diskspace or experiencing some other problem. <-- takes me to aptitude (well, tries, but because my ISP requires a heartbeat message to it's modems i can't connect :()
[05:50] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> what can i do to fix this?
[05:50] <jorgp2> Want3d: rc is in it now
[05:50] <Want3d> IMWheel going back into the respository?
[05:50] <Want3d> repsotiory*
[05:50] <pancho> hola
[05:50] <snareguy> Seveas I have no idea what that was, but thanks
[05:50] <snareguy> it worked
[05:51] <Seveas> ScOrPiO-MoFF, check your cd, installing requires no internet connection...
[05:51] <Vixus> i know this is horrendously off-topic for the channel, but how do I put colour in my console apps (ones I've programmed)?
[05:51] <Seveas> snareguy, you created the things on your desktop as root
[05:51] <eolo> which is the deb brepository for j2re1.5??
[05:51] <Seveas> that command made you the owner of it again
[05:51] <Seveas> eolo, no repsoitory but you can grab one of my server
[05:51] <Ignignokt> yes i just type chmod -rwxrwxrwx /etc/mozilla-firefox to change my firefox folder permissions, but instead of giving me permissions, it took all permissions away
[05:51] <Ignignokt> any help?
[05:51] <Seveas> Do /whois seveas to find the address :)
[05:52] <eolo> i've amd64 bit on hoary
[05:52] <Seveas> Ignignokt, rofl
[05:52] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> Seveas, I install, and at the end of the install I get an error saying that ^^... I sware my CD is ok, too
[05:52] <Seveas> -rwx does just that
[05:52] <Seveas> what do you want the permissions to be?
[05:52] <Ignignokt> i dont even know any more, i am n00b
[05:53] <Jowi> Ignignokt: - removes permissions. + adds them.
[05:53] <Seveas> then why did you want to change these permissions..?
[05:53] <derFlo> did anyone get festival working?
[05:53] <snareguy> are there any browser plugins that would emulate windows media 9?
[05:53] <Seveas> try: chmod 755 /etc/mozilla-firefox
[05:53] <Seveas> that is the normal set of permissions
[05:53] <Ignignokt> ty
[05:53] <eolo> Seveas you mean irc.freenode.net
[05:54] <Seveas> snareguy, mplayer
[05:54] <EasterSunshine> how would i force locate command to update the cache?
[05:54] <Seveas> eolo, no ;)
[05:54] <Seveas> hint: I'm connecting from it
[05:54] <Want3d> EasterSunshine, use updatedb
[05:54] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> i am so confused, how can i install this properly??
[05:54] <Ng> snareguy: firefox has a nice extension called MediaPlayerConnectivity that lets you use whatever media player you like to play embedded media (assuming the media player in question can handle it)
[05:54] <Want3d> ;p
[05:54] <sobersabre> hi
[05:54] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> i have tired installing Ubuntu twice now, same error
[05:54] <EasterSunshine> Want3d: sudo updatedb seems to work better
[05:54] <sobersabre> does anybody here have a problem to log into skype ?
[05:54] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> and i have 35.9GB free HDD space
[05:55] <EasterSunshine> Want3d: as it doesn't deny permission :)
[05:55] <Seveas> ScOrPiO-MoFF, I really think your cd is bad then..
[05:55] <Ng> a failing installation usually offers to test the CD doesn't it?
[05:55] <sobersabre> ScOrPiO-MoFF, which error again ?
[05:55] <Ng> the last one I did that failed offered at least
[05:55] <Seveas> eolo, if you cant find it: http://seveas.demon.nl
[05:55] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> Ubuntu base system configuration failure
[05:56] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> "One or more packages failed to install."
[05:56] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> etc
[05:57] <Want3d> EasterSunshine, i knew u were smart enough to figure it out
[05:57] <Vixus> Great, it's asking me to install fakeroot of the CD-Rom but it won't detect the CD.
[05:57] <Seveas> Vixus, then disable installing from cd :)
[05:57] <EasterSunshine> Want3d: not until i tryied it once and got a million errors =/
[05:57] <eolo> i have an amd64 still ok, Seveas?
[05:57] <Want3d> ha
[05:57] <Vixus> Seveas: How? :)
[05:57] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> So I should just burn to another CD?
[05:58] <Seveas> Vixus, remove the line with the cd from /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:58] <yuacht> how can i record both what i say and what i hear?
[05:58] <Seveas> ScOrPiO-MoFF, first check the md5sum of the iso
[05:58] <EasterSunshine> should i add updatedb to crontab or does does my system automatically update the db every now and then?
[05:58] <Seveas> and if it's correct, burn on low speed
[05:58] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, it's run daily
[05:58] <ScOrPiO-MoFF> kk
[05:58] <Seveas> (from crontab :))
[05:58] <whyameye> is there a good program to print CD labels using ubuntu?
[05:58] <Vixus> Seveas: Oh, thanks
[06:00] <ekimus> anyone could point me to the places to get a complete english system? i had german locales rebuild them with dpkg-reconfigure LC_ALL and LANG are set to C but still some manpages show up in german :(
[06:01] <Seveas> ekimus, /etc/environment
[06:01] <Vixus> Seveas: Just did it with Synaptic.
[06:01] <Seveas> and you should restart X or maybe reboot
[06:03] <nerdy2> ekimus: man mandb ?
[06:03] <pruttelpot> anybody knows something about the XMMS stream's patch since seeking doesn't work in astream?
[06:04] <snareguy> how would i install a tar.bz2 file
[06:04] <snareguy> ?
[06:05] <snareguy> thanks for putting up with me :)
[06:05] <ekimus> hmm i'll just try to remove all locales....
[06:05] <snareguy> (tring to install mplayer)
[06:05] <Vixus> snareguy: how do you install?
[06:05] <Vixus> snareguy: Double click it!
[06:05] <Dragon> isn't there an instruction in tar.bz2 file?
[06:06] <Seveas> snareguy, install mplayer from the repositories
[06:06] <Seveas> NOT from a tar.bz2 file
[06:06] <snareguy> the apt command line that i had would not work
[06:06] <pruttelpot> apt-get install mplayer
[06:07] <pruttelpot> (sudo infront of it)
[06:07] <Seveas> snareguy, then enable multiverse
[06:07] <chrissturm> how can i get a list of packages installed on my system?
[06:07] <Seveas> !repos
[06:07] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:07] <Seveas> chrissturm, dpkg -l
[06:07] <Seveas> or dpkg --get-selections
[06:07] <chrissturm> cool
[06:07] <chrissturm> thx
[06:07] <pruttelpot> or check ubuntuguide for soms more reps and a guide howto
[06:08] <chrissturm> is there a time logging application for gnome?
[06:08] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell pruttelpot about ubuntuguide
[06:08] <Seveas> blegh ubuntuguide repos...
[06:08] <Seveas> evil
[06:09] <apokryphos> hasn't ubuntuguide been down for quite some time, anyway?
[06:09] <pruttelpot> nop
[06:09] <Seveas> chrissturm, time logging app? You mean a clock?
[06:09] <pruttelpot> they just tell you how to ad repos
[06:09] <apokryphos> pruttelpot: they recommend marillat, don't they?
[06:09] <Seveas> in a bad way and with bad repos...
[06:09] <chrissturm> Seveas, a clock with a start and an end button
[06:09] <Seveas> ah, a stopwatch :)
[06:10] <chrissturm> seveas: what i need is a list of tasks, and a start and stop button besides
[06:10] <chrissturm> seveas: for clients billing
[06:10] <pruttelpot> no marillat
[06:10] <chrissturm> and it should write into a db
[06:10] <Seveas> aight
[06:10] <Vixus> is there a shortcut key to go up one directory level??
[06:10] <Seveas> cd ..
[06:11] <Vixus> no, in Gnome.
[06:11] <EasterSunshine> wow cd .. is a shortcut?
[06:11] <zone17> Hi, I am having some problems making my monitor use 80Hz frequence. I am using xorg.conf and the resolution is 1600x1200, it goes at 70Hz, but I know it can be 80, how do I force it to do 80Hz?
[06:11] <Seveas> [alt] [up arrow] 
[06:11] <pruttelpot> cd .. = up a level, cd ~ = homedir
[06:11] <chrissturm> vixus: backspace
[06:11] <Vixus> Seveas: thanks. opens in a new dir though
[06:11] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me why I have sound in the login screen in ubuntu, but not in the rest of gnome?
[06:11] <Vixus> chrissturm: thanks
[06:11] <pruttelpot> turn on the volume?
[06:12] <chrissturm> seveas: is there a list of nautilus shortcuts somewhere?
[06:12] <xenomeliteforce> gnihihi. Got two audio players to play the same song without no delay ^^
[06:12] <medamaybe> I can't turn on the volume...the volume control thing is...lost
[06:12] <Seveas> chrissturm, system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[06:12] <medamaybe> and besides, I don't think it's a volume problem
[06:12] <Seveas> medamaybe, hit [alt] [f2]  and type gnome-volume-control
[06:12] <pruttelpot> system -> prefrences -> multimedia systems
[06:12] <deFrysk> zone17, is it an iiyama LS90T ?
[06:13] <zone17> no, philips
[06:13] <leonel> to my very non nice  surprice  Ubuntu Breezy Has  Mono     should we cara about those  ms patents ?
[06:13] <medamaybe> Seveas: "No volume control elements and/or devices found."  that's what it tells me
[06:13] <chrissturm> seveas:nautilus shortcuts arent there
[06:13] <pruttelpot> here's a list of nautilus shortcuts
[06:13] <pruttelpot> http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnome/users-guide/shortcuts.html
[06:13] <Seveas> medamaybe, did you mess around with the sound before?
[06:13] <deFrysk> zone17, mine , the one i just mentioned does not go highr then 70 hz also in 1600x1200
[06:14] <medamaybe> yeah
[06:14] <Seveas> then undo whatever you did
[06:14] <deFrysk> luckily i prefer 1400x1050 wich gives me an 85 hz
[06:14] <medamaybe> I got the sound working yestrday
[06:14] <kotatsu> the version of nano in Breezy enables mouse support automatically no matter what... the -m switch is supposed to enable support, but I don't see a command line switch to *disable* it... is there an environment variable or something? I hate having to alt+m every single time I run nano
[06:14] <medamaybe> but then I rebooted, and it didn't work
[06:14] <landotter> thanks pruttelpot, first thing I did with Hoary is switch off Ubuntu-Spatial in favour of the regular spatial. ;)
[06:14] <pruttelpot> what is a spatial?
[06:15] <pruttelpot> (I'm dutch)
[06:15] <EasterSunshine> wine is eating 80%+ of my processor. is this normal? i am running a game on cedega atm, star wars episode 1 racer.
[06:15] <chrissturm> is breezy finally the end of ubuntu-spatial?
[06:15] <CapSoft> some one experience with wifi?
[06:15] <kotatsu> chrissturm: I believe they use browser mode by default now, yes
[06:15] <Seveas> chrissturm, it'll be the end of u-s by default
[06:15] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, duh...
[06:15] <CapSoft> i can't get an ip from my wireless router, my laptop does see the router. and connects but does not assign an ip
[06:16] <landotter> Those shortcuts for Nautilus do not work for spatial mode, but alt+ the arrow keys does. ;)
[06:16] <kotatsu> thank goodness... one less thing to scare new users off, a broken spatial mode
[06:16] <Vixus> CapSoft: wow, you can get wireless working that much?
[06:16] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: i haven't even started the game yet though, i'm still in the launcher...
[06:16] <CapSoft> lol @ Vixus
[06:16] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, then maybe it's broken
[06:16] <whyameye> I can't get the cd drive bay to open. The CD inside is unmounted. The eject button doesn't work. Anything I can try short of restarting Gnome?
[06:16] <CapSoft> it worked at school and i had a d/l speed from 550 kb/s
[06:16] <Vixus> CapSoft: I couldn't get it working at all :D
[06:16] <EasterSunshine> the game will probably go at .25 fps
[06:16] <landotter> kotatsu,  yeah, browser mode would be fine by default, those of us that prefer spatial can easily change that. :)
[06:17] <kotatsu> yeah, I love spatial myself but I use browser mode occasionally... but ubuntu spatial took the *worst* part of both and combined them
[06:17] <kotatsu> I'll never understand that one, but at least it's fixed now =)
[06:18] <Seveas> kotatsu, sabdfl has publibly apologized for it :)
[06:18] <kotatsu> sabdfl?
[06:18] <Seveas> Mark Shuttleworth
[06:18] <Seveas> aka The Boss
[06:18] <kotatsu> ahh, cool
[06:18] <medamaybe> any sound experts here?
[06:19] <Seveas> Self Appointed Beneficial Dictator For Life
[06:19] <kotatsu> anyone know how to disable mouse support in nano from the command line?
[06:19] <landotter> LOL, the borked spatial was Mr. Shuttleworth's doing? :D
[06:19] <ryguy> this is whre to come for help, right?
[06:19] <kotatsu> lol =)
[06:19] <Seveas> landotter, yup
[06:19] <kotatsu> landotter: yeah, but fiat hehe
[06:19] <Amaranth> hi guys
[06:19] <kotatsu> by*
[06:19] <Seveas> ryguy, correct
[06:19] <Seveas> hi Amaranth
[06:19] <ryguy> oh lord, thank you
[06:19] <Seveas> you need help that badly?
[06:19] <ryguy> does anyone know a lot about the GRUB loader?
[06:20] <medamaybe> does anyone have an idea  why I have sound in the login screen, but not in the rest of gnome (it's not a volume problem)
[06:20] <darkheart> When you install something w/ dpkg, how do you search for the name to use to uninstall the package?
[06:20] <Seveas> !anybody
[06:20] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:20] <Seveas> dang..
[06:20] <ryguy> well, sort of... i can log onto windows and i dont want to screw up my computer anymore than i have
[06:20] <Seveas> ahyway: it's better to just ask your question...
[06:20] <chrissturm> medamaybe, did you look at system/preferences/sound?
[06:21] <TraceGreen> Hello, does anyone here use captive sucessfully?
[06:21] <medamaybe> yes, but I don't know what tochange there
[06:21] <ryguy> k, well i posted it at a the ubuntu forums.. shall i send you in that direction?
[06:21] <chrissturm> medamaybe, what is selected there?
[06:21] <apokryphos> Seveas: it was !anyone
[06:21] <medamaybe> in the general tab: "enable sound server startup" is checked, "sounds for events"  is unchecked
[06:22] <Want3d> anyone know what package 'make' is included in?
[06:22] <chrissturm> medamaybe, "sounds for events" must be checked
[06:22] <Seveas> Want3d, build-essential
[06:22] <Seveas> what are you compiling?
[06:22] <medamaybe> chrissturm, I checked that, but I still don't have any sound
[06:23] <medamaybe> when I try to play an audio file I get this: "Could not open resource for writing"
[06:23] <_daniel> hello all. i've got problems with the ibook touchpad
[06:23] <mrdeath> guys, why ubuntu packages has such angry dependencies?
[06:23] <chrissturm> medamaybe, what app did you try to play sound?
[06:23] <landotter> medamaybe, alt+f2 run "esd"
[06:23] <Seveas> mrdeath, care to elaborate?
[06:23] <apokryphos> mrdeath: wait till you see dependencies on Grumpy
[06:23] <medamaybe> totem movie player
[06:24] <medamaybe> if I do  alt+f2, "esd"  nothing happens
[06:24] <mrdeath> xorg-driver-synaptics is keeping the following 61 packages installed: ...
[06:24] <Want3d> thanks
[06:24] <Want3d> :)
[06:24] <ryguy> seveas, is it okay to paste my forum thread in here for you?
[06:24] <chrissturm> medamaybe: run gnome-sound-properties
[06:25] <Seveas> ryguy, dure, paste the url
[06:25] <mrdeath> Seveas: i think that i make them look better :)
[06:25] <ryguy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59562
[06:25] <mrdeath> X11 drivers
[06:25] <benjamin1254> hey does ne one have ne knowledge about mac os 8 and how to boot into the mac disks?
[06:25] <medamaybe> sorry, I accidently closed irc
[06:25] <chrissturm> medamaybe: run gnome-sound-properties
[06:25] <medamaybe> if I do alt+f2  "esd"  nothing happens
[06:25] <nakata> hehe
[06:25] <nakata> alt+f4ed :D
[06:25] <medamaybe> lol, yeah I missed the F2 :P
[06:26] <_daniel> anyone can help me with the ibook touchpad?
[06:26] <medamaybe> ok, what do I do in the sound properties?
[06:26] <_daniel> it doesn't seem to be detected
[06:26] <benjamin1254> hey does ne one have ne knowledge about mac os 8 and how to boot into the mac disks?
[06:26] <Seveas> mrdeath, delete linspire again
[06:26] <_daniel> when the kernel scans for adb devices
[06:26] <Seveas> ack EWRONGPERSON
[06:26] <Seveas> ryguy, delete linspire again
[06:26] <mrdeath> Seveas: sorry?
[06:26] <mrdeath> oh
[06:26] <mrdeath> ic
[06:26] <Seveas> then boot from a windows boot floppy or install cd
[06:26] <Seveas> and run fdisk /mbr
[06:27] <Seveas> that will get rid of grub
[06:27] <benjamin1254> hey does ne one have ne knowledge about mac os 8 and how to boot into the mac disks?
[06:27] <Seveas> benjamin1254, booting on macs is done with yaboot iirc
[06:27] <kevin_> i'm trying to get the hybrid-ircd package working and i get the following error in the ircd logs (they're at debug level): /var/log/ircd/ircd-hybrid.log:[2005/8/25 17.02]  opening listener socket [127.0.0.1/6667] :Address family not supported by protocol
[06:27] <benjamin1254> ?
[06:28] <medamaybe> chrissturm, what do I do in the gnome-sound-properties?
[06:28] <benjamin1254> i have an oridginal mac os boot cd though
[06:28] <chrissturm> medamaybe, what do you have selected for sound output?
[06:28] <Seveas> benjamin1254, this is not a mac support channel, try ##apple
[06:28] <medamaybe> sound output? are you sure you mean gnome-sound-properties?
[06:29] <Dime> whats a good peer 2 peer program?
[06:29] <chrissturm> medamaybe, sorry :)
[06:29] <EasterSunshine> Dime: azureus and limewire and good
[06:29] <medamaybe> I found the multimedia systems selector, it says Default Sink->output: ESD - Enlightenment..    there
[06:29] <EasterSunshine> s/and/are
[06:29] <landotter> Dime, gtk-gnutella is worth a look.
[06:30] <Seveas> medamaybe, in a terminal type this:
[06:30] <Seveas> lsof /dev/dsp
[06:30] <Seveas> and paste the output in here (if it's not too much)
[06:31] <Amaranth> so, what have i missed in my two weeks of no internet access
[06:31] <medamaybe> Seveas, there is no output :/
[06:32] <chrissturm> medamaybe: then you dont have esd running
[06:32] <medamaybe> ...
[06:32] <medamaybe> how do I get it running?
[06:32] <Seveas> medamaybe, try this: pgrep -l esd
[06:32] <Seveas> does that give output?
[06:32] <medamaybe> no
[06:33] <Seveas> Amaranth, read sounder@lists :)
[06:33] <Amaranth> ack, no
[06:33] <Amaranth> i don't have a month
[06:33] <Seveas> medamaybe, in the same terminal, type: esd &
[06:33] <Seveas> Amaranth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i1524
[06:33] <Hitiek> hehe. I come in here because my sound isn't working and what do I see, someone else whos sound isn't working. Is this common on ubuntu?
[06:34] <medamaybe> ok, this is what it says:
[06:34] <medamaybe> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[06:34] <medamaybe> [1]  12255
[06:34] <medamaybe> [1]    Exit 2                  esd
[06:34] <Seveas> righhtt....
[06:34] <Amaranth> Seveas: hahahahahahaha
[06:34] <Seveas> medamaybe, why did you fool around with alsa things?
[06:34] <xerath> hey
[06:34] <Seveas> ubuntuguide crapola I guess?
[06:34] <Seveas> Amaranth, :))
[06:34] <xerath> when will breezy be out ?
[06:34] <Seveas> !breezy
[06:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:34] <medamaybe> I found that in the forum
[06:35] <medamaybe> and it worked yesterday, but then I rebooted my pc, and after that it didn't work anymore
[06:35] <Seveas> medamaybe, just as crappy
[06:35] <medamaybe> well...I'm new to ubuntu, I had no idea what to do
[06:35] <Seveas> then why follow random instructions found on a forum?
[06:35] <medamaybe> they were not random
[06:36] <medamaybe> the problem described there was very similar to mine
[06:36] <darkheart> I installed a custom kernel from a deb package I built, but I can't seem to get it uninstalled.
[06:36] <medamaybe> anyway, is there a way to fix this?
[06:36] <Amaranth> wait, smeg is installed by default now?
[06:37] <Seveas> Amaranth, on breezy: yes
[06:37] <Amaranth> yay
[06:37] <Amaranth> last time i got to look it was just in main
[06:37] <Seveas> darkheart, aptitude purge [your package name] 
[06:38] <guest43545> hi
[06:38] <To_Sem_Ideia_Pra> some one run adesklets on unbuntu?
[06:39] <medamaybe> Seveasm us there a way to fix it?
[06:39] <darkheart> Seveas Oddly enough, I can't seem to find the correct package. dpkg -l linux-image* should produce the kernels I've installed, right?
[06:39] <dracflamloc> hello
[06:40] <Seveas> darkheart, if you named them linux-image$SOMETHING
[06:40] <inc7> hi, ubuntu wont let me boot from a cdrom, i set the bios to check for cd first??
[06:40] <darkheart> Seveas How is the package name created from a deb file? Is it made from the name of the actual file?
[06:40] <Seveas> no
[06:41] <Amaranth> the name of the file comes from the package name
[06:41] <Seveas> you specify it in the control file in the package
[06:41] <medamaybe> so...does anyone know how I can fix my sound?
[06:41] <Amaranth> !sound
[06:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[06:41] <inc7> heh
[06:41] <Seveas> medamaybe, undo all the changes you made. Especially weird dmix things
[06:41] <inc7> how do i boot from cd?
[06:42] <inc7> should just do it right?
[06:42] <Seveas> put the cd in the drive and boot
[06:42] <inc7> if life were so easy
[06:42] <medamaybe> undo...that might be a problem
[06:42] <inc7> and because it dosnt, it means what? disable all other drives byt cdrom?
[06:42] <Seveas> medamaybe, surely you made backups before messing around with things you don't fully understand...
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[06:42] <medamaybe> yeah I did make backups
[06:43] <medamaybe> and I restored the backups
[06:43] <Seveas> inc7, check your bios
[06:43] <medamaybe> but it's still not working
[06:43] <inc7> can a bios ever get a virus?
[06:43] <Seveas> yes
[06:43] <Seveas> medamaybe, then reboot
[06:44] <medamaybe> I did...
[06:44] <Chadza> How do I get gnome to switch to openbox from metacity?
[06:44] <Seveas> Chadza, the same way as you made it use openbox..
[06:44] <batoms> can someone help me out. when loggin into my desktop everything hangs at the gnome splash screen and i can't find anything wrong in any log files
[06:44] <Seveas> Chadza, nvm -- misread it
[06:45] <hmrocha> how can i echo something that has the ' character
[06:45] <Seveas> batoms, login in text mode and remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedir
[06:45] <medamaybe> can someone explain to me the difference between alsa and esd?
[06:45] <Seveas> echo somethin\'foo
[06:45] <Seveas> alsa is the modern linux sound system
[06:45] <batoms> Seveas, alright, thanks. brb
[06:45] <Seveas> esd is a sound server on top of it
[06:45] <laserline> hello all, need help with CPU Scaling...on a P3 Laptop.
[06:45] <medamaybe> so  esd is the primary server?
[06:46] <EasterSunshine> if i shut down my box, swtich the video card from savage3 to gf3, and turn it back on, will it still work? last time, i got a kernal panic :(
[06:46] <Seveas> laserline, these don't scale afaik...
[06:46] <laserline> When powernowd runs, it says: "CPU frequency scaling not supported "
[06:46] <medamaybe> btw, I never changed anything with alsa,  all I changed was  /etc/esound/esd.conf
[06:46] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, before doing it, disable the savage drivers
[06:46] <laserline> Sevas: but i have speedstep in the bios...
[06:46] <hmrocha> Seveas, that doesn't help me
[06:46] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: lol i doubt i have drivers. i get 50 fps on glxgears
[06:46] <laserline> Seveas: but i have speedstep in the bios
[06:47] <hmrocha> Seveas, i want to echo bash code to a file
[06:47] <EasterSunshine> Seveas: and i thought linux drivers for s3 doesn't exist?
[06:47] <Seveas> hmrocha, echo bash\'code >> filename
[06:47] <hmrocha> Seveas, no, you don't understand
[06:47] <laserline> is there a possibility to enable cpu scaling in kernel level instead of using deamons ?
[06:47] <batoms> Seveas, no luck, even the failsafe gnome login doesnt work
[06:47] <hmrocha> Seveas, i have a shell script that must echo a function to a file
[06:47] <Seveas> EasterSunshine, it does use a driver, in xorg.conf set it to use 'nv' before switching them
[06:47] <Seveas> batoms, use *text mode* login
[06:48] <Seveas> hit [ctrl] [alt] [f1] 
[06:48] <batoms> Seveas, thats what i'm in right now
[06:48] <Seveas> hmrocha, use heredocs
[06:48] <batoms> Seveas, my xkb is messed up and doesn't allow that
[06:48] <hmrocha> Seveas, what's that?
[06:48] <batoms> Seveas, but i have a terminal open right now
[06:48] <zblach> hi
[06:48] <Seveas> echo <<EOF >filename
[06:49] <Seveas> any 't hing
[06:49] <Seveas> you " want here
[06:49] <Seveas> EOF
[06:49] <zblach> anyone here a wireless guru?
[06:49] <Seveas> !wifi
[06:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:49] <zblach> a little more complicated than that
[06:49] <zblach> rumour has it, thats incomplete
[06:50] <Seveas> :)
[06:50] <laserline> Seveas, could you try and help me ?
[06:50] <Seveas> what's the prob?
[06:50] <Seveas> laserline, probably not
[06:50] <zblach> Seveas, me?
[06:50] <laserline> Seveas, cpu scaling and speedstep in the bios is the same ?
[06:50] <Seveas> what's the prob? <-- abach yes you :)
[06:50] <Seveas> zblach*
[06:50] <Seveas> (/me needs coffee)
[06:51] <zblach> Seveas, i have a wireless router. Right now, i'm wired into it, and i'm connected no problem
[06:51] <zblach> i've ndiswrappered my wireless card
[06:51] <zblach> and set everything up correctly
[06:51] <zblach> even checked things out on my router
[06:51] <zblach> but, i'm unable to even detect the router wirelessly in ubuntu
[06:52] <zblach> its fine in winXP
[06:52] <Seveas> zblach, do you use a hidden essid?
[06:52] <zblach> Seveas, don't think so. it is broadcasted
[06:52] <Seveas> zblach, iwlist wlan0 scan return nothing?
[06:53] <batoms> anyone else have any ideas on why gnome would hang at login, sometimes i get the splash screen and sometimes not
[06:53] <zblach> Seveas, correct
[06:54] <batoms> what i always get is the xkb error message
[06:54] <batoms> there's nothing in the logs to indicate a problem
[06:54] <zblach> Seveas, i'm stumped. thats all i have to do to get my system up again
[06:55] <inc7> hi, im trying to burn a boot iso with ubuntu but the cd wont boot, anyone know why?
[06:55] <Seveas> zblach, I'm no less stumped
[06:55] <inc7> im extracting iso into a file then copying to cd
[06:55] <zblach> Seveas, where do i go from here?
[06:55] <Seveas> inc7, that's stupid
[06:55] <Seveas> that discards the boot sector
[06:55] <zblach> inc7, agreed. that is stupid
[06:55] <Seveas> just burn it as a disk image
[06:55] <inc7> does it have anythin to do with 64bit, burning 32 bit app?
[06:55] <zblach> no
[06:55] <inc7> how
[06:55] <inc7> how
[06:56] <zblach> get something like nero
[06:56] <Seveas> which program do you use?
[06:56] <inc7> i got last idea from here
[06:56] <darkheart> Seveas Hmm..no luck. Inside grub's menu.lst there is an entry for it (kernel 2.6.10dh-custom) and I've tried uninstalling linux-image-2.6.10dh-custom, but it says it can't find it.
[06:56] <inc7> i just have standard unbuntu 64bit
[06:56] <inc7> u tell me
[06:56] <deFrysk> rightclick the iso in nautilus
[06:56] <deFrysk> and burn
[06:56] <Seveas> which program do you use *for burning*?
[06:56] <deFrysk> thats it
[06:56] <inc7> i dont know
[06:56] <inc7> first time linux
[06:57] <Seveas> darkheart, dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image
[06:58] <darkheart> Seveas Doesn't seem to produce any useful results =\ ( http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1610 )
[06:59] <EasterSunshine> glxinfo|grep render returns: `direct render = no` is there anything i can do about this?
[07:00] <Seveas> darkheart, interesting...
[07:00] <Seveas> darkheart, download the pastebin script from that site
[07:00] <Seveas> and run: dpkg --get-selections | python pastebin
[07:00] <darkheart> Seveas Roger
[07:01] <batoms> Seveas, i deleted the .X* files you mentioned but not luck. any other ideas
[07:01] <Seveas> .ICEauthority is wiped too?
[07:01] <batoms> yep
[07:02] <Seveas> ok, then clean out /tmp
[07:02] <maan84> Anyone know a fast/easy way to unarchive *.rar files? ty
[07:02] <jacob> Anybody know anything about issues concerning firefox, Ubuntu, and certain routers causes enourmous waits and time out while resolving site names?  I've found a few sites that have some info on the problem, it may be a router issue.
[07:03] <batoms> Seveas, alright, have to log in and out again. brb
[07:03] <apokryphos> maan84: rar x {somepackage}
[07:03] <apokryphos> somearchive, rather.
[07:03] <jacob> sites load fine by ip address
[07:03] <maan84> apokryphos: Thank you, I'll try it out.
[07:04] <Seveas> jacob: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[07:04] <apokryphos> maan84: you'll need to install one of the rar packages; they're in Multiverse. If you have it enabled in your sources.list, then you should be able to apt/synaptic for it
[07:04] <jacob> thanks I'll try that
[07:04] <darkheart> Seveas Thanks a lot man. It turns out that it was actually kernel-image* and not linux-image*
[07:04] <spiral> hi
[07:05] <Chadza> When I was in windows, I had to set a path variable to point to the java jdk so I could call javac, how do I do that in 'nix?
[07:05] <tahorg> Duvel: that's a good nickname/username :)
[07:05] <deFrysk> almost as good as tiple
[07:05] <deFrysk> triple
[07:05] <maan84> apokyphos: I did a search and found: "rar - archiver for rar files (40 day shareware)" and "Unrar - nonfree version" is there freeware somewhere?
[07:05] <Duvel> tahorg, that's a good beer too
[07:06] <apokryphos> maan84: I don't think so, no.
[07:06] <darkheart> Seveas I have a question though, do you know what might cause a kernel panic when VFS tries to load? (I'm trying to get DMA working on my CD-ROMs, hdparm tells me operation not permitted when I try to use it on current kernel)
[07:06] <jacob> Wow, thanks Seveas, that did the trick :)
[07:06] <maan84> apokryphos, ok thanks, I'll try the shareware one then :)
[07:07] <eros> darkheart: did you use sudo ?
[07:07] <darkheart> eros Yes.
[07:07] <eros> I don't know then :(
[07:07] <eros> I need some help with samba
[07:07] <eros> It doesn't show up my local network :/
[07:07] <darkheart> eros =) It's okay, neither do I. I think I need to compile some support into the kernel maybe.
[07:07] <eros> when i type smb://workgroepname
[07:08] <eros> it says can't connect
[07:08] <eros> !dma
[07:08] <Seveas> eros only smb://hostname_or_ip_address links are supported..
[07:08] <eros> ah
[07:08] <Dr_Fate> Happy Birthday Linux!
[07:08] <eros> any idea how to get my local network going
[07:08] <batoms> Seveas, cleared /tmp and ~/.ICEauthority and still nothhing, metacity doesn't even start
[07:08] <eros> i read the guide
[07:09] <Seveas> 'the guide'?
[07:09] <eros> Yeah, the ones in the wiki
[07:09] <rober90> hello everybody
[07:09] <eros> hello rober90 :)
[07:09] <darkheart> eros You might try installing LinNeighborhood...graphical bit o' software that helps mounting smb partitions.
[07:10] <eros> do i need to mount other pc's ?
[07:10] <eros> I don't see any other network clients at all
[07:10] <darkheart> Seveas Do you know if being able to enable DMA on my CD-ROMs has anything to do w/ scsi emulation?
[07:10] <silentigger> someone uses powerpc ubuntu?/
[07:11] <znh> hmm.. how to get the dutch keyboard layout? - it's not listed in gnome->system->keyboard
[07:11] <batoms> eros, try smbclient -L //hostname where hostname is the name of the host your trying to connect to
[07:11] <mjr> darkheart, don't use scsi-emu if you want to use dma. And don't use even if you dont...
[07:12] <SolidRaven> can anybody tell me how i recover the hotplug system ?
[07:12] <SolidRaven> its not ndiswrapper that messed up the kernel like i tought it did
[07:12] <znh> !keyboard-layout
[07:12] <ubotu> znh: I give up, what is it?
[07:12] <znh> !lkeyboard
[07:12] <ubotu> znh: What?
[07:12] <darkheart> mjr Understood. Would you perhaps know why I am unable to enable dma on the drives? hdparm says operation not permitted, I figured I needed to add some kind of support to my kernel.
[07:12] <znh> ....
[07:12] <znh> how to get keyboard layouts?
[07:13] <SolidRaven> uh, can anybody tell me how to reset the hotplug sub system?
[07:13] <SolidRaven> or how its called
[07:13] <znh> SolidRaven, sudo apt-get remove hotplug --purge, sudo apt-get install hotplug
[07:13] <SolidRaven> mhh, goign to write that down
[07:13] <SolidRaven> i hope i am able to boot into recovery mode
[07:14] <znh> channel seems to be death :/..
[07:14] <znh> !layout
[07:14] <ubotu> Wish i knew, znh
[07:14] <znh> stupid bot
[07:14] <batoms> anyone know why gnome-session could hang
[07:14] <ztonzy> !UI
[07:14] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ztonzy
[07:15] <ztonzy> lol
[07:15] <SolidRaven> batoms > because xserv failed
[07:15] <ztonzy> the bot doesn't even know what a user interface is ;)
[07:15] <znh> ubotu, UI is the shortcut of "User Interface".
[07:15] <ubotu> znh: okay
[07:15] <SolidRaven> it does know this:
[07:15] <znh> !ui
[07:15] <ubotu> ui is, like, totally, the shortcut of "User Interface".
[07:15] <SolidRaven> !ubuntu
[07:15] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[07:16] <SolidRaven> !gnome
[07:16] <ubotu> I guess gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[07:16] <eros> batoms: do i need to put smb:// before that ?
[07:16] <wrtpeeps> does anyone else get a 404 error from security.ubuntu.com when trying to install certain packages?
[07:16] <Duvel> znh you want to set an other type of keyboard??
[07:16] <znh> Seveas, If I am wrong by adding this, then please tell me now!
[07:16] <znh> Duvel, yeah.. but it isn't listed in the layout list
[07:16] <apokryphos> "the shortcut for..."? ;-) 'Tis an acronym
[07:16] <Duvel> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:16] <batoms> eros, not if you mean on the smbclient command
[07:17] <apokryphos> znh: and no, of course it's fine to add
[07:17] <Duvel> or culd also be sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[07:17] <Thorondor> when trying to SVN i always get "svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/path' -- svn: PROPFIND of '/path': 200 OK (server)" - a friend of mine told me this could be a client problem. any suggestions?
[07:17] <znh> Duvel, that's not the problem.. I just don't have the keyboard layouts installed
[07:17] <batoms> eros, smbclient -L //hostname should tell you if you can connect to the host and if you can what shares are available
[07:18] <Duvel> that's where you configure your keyboard
[07:18] <znh> :-)
[07:19] <eros> hmm
[07:19] <eros> we found the problem
[07:19] <eros> i'm not connected
[07:19] <eros> what now :o?
[07:19] <batoms> SolidRaven, what do you mean xserv failed
[07:19] <batoms> eros, its probably a smb.conf problem
[07:19] <pirast> hi, I have Breezy. The problem is when I apt-get install nvidia-glx is says that libglu1-mesa is not installed. But it is installed.. What's the problem?
[07:20] <batoms> eros, type 'testparm' first and make sure you don't have any errors in smb.conf
[07:20] <silentigger> someone uses powerpc ubuntu?/
[07:21] <drewfusmaximus> i need to change my resolution but my only option is 640x480
[07:21] <apokryphos> !resolution
[07:21] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:21] <drewfusmaximus> can anyone help?
[07:21] <batoms> when i start gnome-session i get a bunch of _IceTrans* errors
[07:21] <drewfusmaximus> ok
[07:21] <apokryphos> !anyone
[07:21] <ubotu> I guess anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[07:21] <apokryphos> 8)
[07:21] <batoms> and my gnome login hangs
[07:22] <eros> hmm
[07:22] <eros> seems there are no problems
[07:22] <silentigger> i'm problem with sound level ubutun powerpc version
[07:22] <eros> should i try resseting the local modem?
[07:22] <eros> and restart the pcs
[07:22] <batoms> eros, do you know the IP address of the machine you are trying to connect to
[07:22] <batoms> eros, if so can you ping it
[07:22] <eros> let me see
[07:23] <silentigger> eros, can you help-me?
[07:23] <eros> we've got dhcp here
[07:23] <eros> silentigger: if I can
[07:23] <eros> whats the problem ?
[07:23] <silentigger> i'm problem with sound level ubutun powerpc version
[07:23] <silentigger> powerpc
[07:23] <maan84> Does anyone know if Gnomebakes is able to burn CD Image -> *.img or do I need a plugin or a diff program? ty
[07:23] <maan84> Gnomebaker*
[07:23] <silentigger> my iBook G4
[07:24] <eros> whats kind of sound problem ?
[07:24] <eros> *what
[07:24] <silentigger> level in audio files
[07:24] <eros> sorry, i cant help you there :(
[07:24] <yuacht> hello. where's the boot script located? want to add some lines to use at boot
[07:25] <LaserLine> Hello All !
[07:25] <silentigger> very short
[07:25] <LaserLine> I think my ext3fs is dying.........
[07:25] <silentigger> eros, ok thanks
[07:26] <LaserLine> anyone knows how to fix the filesystem ?
[07:26] <EasterSunshine> !info fsck
[07:27] <zblach> hi
[07:27] <zblach> still looking for a wireless guru. any takers?
[07:28] <yuacht> zblach, if by guru you mean a guy who never used it or don't know shit abt it, then yes, here i am ;)
[07:28] <bamiaux> hello, does anyone know how to add ubuntu breezy colony 3 iso to apt sources ? It would prevent me to download uneeded packages
[07:28] <robertbb> zblach: What is your question?
[07:28] <robertbb> You can pm if you like, but you will probably get more help in channel
[07:28] <zblach> robertbb, my wlan0 scan returns nothing
[07:29] <zblach> even tho the network is accessible though windows with the same settings
[07:29] <robertbb> Are you trying to sniff packets?
[07:29] <flogiston> Hi does anyone here got a thinkpad x41 with Ubuntu installed?
[07:29] <bamiaux> maybe the line is already here in the /etc/apt/sources.list for those who did install breezy with colony 3 iso
[07:29] <zblach> robertbb, i'm trying to connect to my network wirelessly
[07:29] <robertbb> So, in Windows you can connect..
[07:29] <zblach> i'm hardwired into it right now
[07:29] <robertbb> In Ubuntu you can't?
[07:29] <zblach> yeah,
[07:29] <robertbb> Do you have any weird wpa needs?
[07:29] <robertbb> Or should it be straight forward?
[07:30] <zblach> use WEP, but i've set taht up already
[07:30] <zblach> it should be straight forward
[07:30] <laserline> I need a little help with filesystem corruption.... anybody up for the job ? :-\
[07:30] <robertbb> What chipset does your card use?
[07:31] <zblach> *whew* it uses the broadcom chipset, but its a linksys card. i've ndiswrappered it successfully using the WMP11V27 drivers from linksys
[07:31] <laserline> I get a lot of INODE blah blah.... when trying to boot... ( I manage to boot - but i don't like the error messages)
[07:32] <WeirdAl> I'm getting a kernel panic when I boot up.
[07:32] <WeirdAl> The nature of it suggests that /dev/hda1 doesn't exist, but I've booted DSL and had a look and it's all there
[07:32] <robertbb> hmm..
[07:32] <medamaybe> hi@all
[07:32] <robertbb> I seriously have issues with NDISwrapper
[07:32] <zblach> oh? why's that?
[07:32] <robertbb> I've never had the pain of trying to get a chipset that requires it to work
[07:32] <medamaybe> is it true that the first user should be able to use sudo?
[07:32] <laserline> Is there a utility that checks the Health of the Hard-Drive physically ?
[07:33] <robertbb> zblach: Sorry, I can't help when it comes to NDISwrapper.  The blind shouldn't lead the blind, I've never used it..
[07:33] <iotc247> Is there a way to get a package for firefox-trunk so that the firefox in breezy is upgraded to trunk?
[07:33] <zblach> robertbb, ndiswrapper works fine. i'm just having troubles with iwlist
[07:33] <EasterSunshine> medamaybe: afaik, any user part of the admin group can use sudo
[07:34] <robertbb> Only advice I can give you is to flash the cards firmware if necessary, and find a good tutorial online
[07:34] <robertbb> oic....
[07:34] <robertbb> In that case
[07:34] <robertbb> Maybe that chipset doesn't support rfmon?
[07:34] <medamaybe> "afaik" ?
[07:34] <robertbb> As in, maybe the driver doesn't
[07:34] <zblach> rfmon?
[07:34] <zblach> radio-frequency monitor?
[07:34] <robertbb> Yeah
[07:34] <WeirdAl> Anywhere I can get the kernel from so I can see if it's corrupted?
[07:34] <medamaybe> EasterSunshine: well, my first user can't use sudo (I didn't change anything, I just installed ubuntu)
[07:35] <robertbb> I know that different chipsets under Linux have varying levels of functionality
[07:35] <robertbb> And I'm not sure whether, using NDISwrapper, all functions (e.g. iwlist) is supported or supposed to work
[07:36] <zblach> no errors are given
[07:36] <zblach> it just reports 'no networks found'
[07:36] <robertbb> Do you need to turn on something like 'promiscuous' mode?
[07:36] <robertbb> i.e. rfmon mode
[07:36] <robertbb> I know you do for the intel cards 2200/2915
[07:37] <EasterSunshine> !afaik
[07:37] <ubotu> EasterSunshine: I don't know
[07:37] <zblach> it have it broadcast the essid
[07:37] <robertbb> que?
[07:37] <medamaybe> someone here told me yesterday, that the first user is part of the group that can use sudo, but it can't :(
[07:38] <jAvier0> hi everyone. is here anybody in charge of the 'trademark' or 'marketing'?
[07:38] <robertbb> medamaybe: So add the desired user to sudoers file
[07:38] <maan84> Anyone know how I can burn a *.img file in Ubuntu, Gnomebaker only wanna work with *.iso? :)
[07:38] <iotc247> Is there a way to get firefox trunk to replace the current firefox package?
[07:38] <zblach> robertbb, dunno. i'm just reading things in the config menu
[07:38] <nophix> maan84: try k3b
[07:38] <maan84> nophix, k3b? =P
[07:39] <nophix> maan84: google
[07:39] <medamaybe> robertbb: k...but I just don't like the idea that something is supposed to work, but it's not working...and at this rate I'll probably screw everything up again
[07:39] <slask3n> I cant make my microphone work in linux :s What can I do? I've checked everything in alsamixer, but I still cant make it work properly...
[07:39] <maan84> nophix, I found k3b in synaptic, though it says it's for KDE? Using Ubuntu (Gnome) :(
[07:40] <nophix> maan84: don't matter, kde works in ubuntu too
[07:40] <pomalin> does somebody know why nvidia-glx is removed from my breezy, and replace by libdrm, and why I don't have direct rendering ?
[07:40] <maan84> nophix, I can just mark k3b for installation and I can find it in the menus and run it from gnome after installation?
[07:41] <nophix> maan84: of course
[07:41] <maan84> nophix, awesome :)
[07:41] <jAvier0> i'm working in a ubuntu site and i need to contact the trademark people, i've sent an email to the address listed in the website but i had never received an answer. anyone knows who can i contact?
[07:42] <iotc247> Is there a way to get firefox trunk to replace the current firefox package?
[07:43] <KING^^^> hello , i want to install vmware and i'm stuck here : What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[07:43] <KING^^^> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[07:43] <medamaybe> is there a shortkey to run the terminal?
[07:44] <WeirdAl> can someone explain to me what the line root (hd0,0) means in grub's boot script?
[07:44] <pomalin> nobody ?
[07:44] <X7C> everybody
[07:44] <pomalin> :D
[07:44] <pomalin> does somebody know why nvidia-glx is removed from my breezy, and replace by libdrm, and why I don't have direct rendering ?
[07:45] <X7C> :S
[07:45] <X7C> i dunno
[07:45] <X7C> :(
[07:45] <pomalin> ok
[07:45] <pomalin> someone under breezy here ?
[07:46] <slask3n> Anyone knows why my microphone wont work? I've already fixed the settings in alsamixer..
[07:47] <camilo> i was wondering if anybody could help me get the gnome menus under enlightenment, or use gnome and enlightenment at once, or something of that kind
[07:48] <KING^^^> nobody can't help me ?
[07:48] <jchico> hello, is it normal for apt-get not to install the dependecies?! it's driving me nuts on how it's telling me that I can't install it... I thought that was its job
[07:49] <znh> jchico, what are you trying to installate?
[07:50] <WeirdAl> Can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of the kernel from?
[07:50] <darkheart> KING^^^ Did you install the linux headers for your kernel?
[07:50] <darkheart> WeirdAl What do you mean a copy?
[07:51] <thrice`> has breezy updated ATI drivers ?
[07:51] <znh> WeirdAl, the kernel source you mean?
[07:51] <KING^^^> darkheart: i can't untar linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
[07:51] <medamaybe> does anyone know if there is a keyboard shortcut to open the terminal?
[07:51] <znh> KING^^^, try tar -xvjpf
[07:51] <thrice`> KING^^^, tar xvjf linux-
[07:51] <WeirdAl> znh: no, the built kernel.
[07:51] <jchico> like a library, for gstreamer or xmms, it won't let me install it
[07:51] <WeirdAl> I think my copy is corrupt because it won't boot.
[07:51] <znh> jchico, try running apt-setup again
[07:51] <KING^^^> linux-source-2.6.10/Documentation/networking/ifenslave.c
[07:51] <KING^^^> tar: linux-source-2.6.10/Documentation/networking/ifenslave.c: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[07:52] <thrice`> jchico, are you using sudo ?
[07:52] <jchico> yeah
[07:52] <darkheart> jchico Have you added the correct repositories?
[07:52] <jchico> do I need the CD-ROM for the setup to continue?
[07:52] <jchico> I've added a few, but i'm not sure how many I exactly need
[07:52] <zblach> any ideas why i can't detect my wireless network?
[07:52] <djinn_arthas> alguien sabe como confirar el video en ubuntu
[07:52] <znh> jchico, no.. it's better to download everything from the internet if it's fast enough
[07:52] <darkheart> !es
[07:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:53] <WeirdAl> darkheart: I mean a copy of the file /boot/vmlinuz-etc so I can overwrite my own copy, which appears to be corrupt because it panics at bootup
[07:53] <darkheart> WeirdAl Well, you might just tryin uninstall your kernel-image and then reinstalling it.
[07:53] <znh> WeirdAl, double check your /etc/fstab :-)
[07:54] <jchico> umm let me run the setup and see what happens znh
[07:54] <znh> jchico, it will ask you for the cdrom.. just hit enter..  :)
[07:54] <darkheart> WeirdAl It might help to know what the panic is also
[07:55] <darkheart> znh Did you figure out your keyboard layout problem?
[07:55] <slask3n> Anyone knows why my microphone wont work? I've already fixed the settings in alsamixer, without luck.
[07:55] <znh> darkheart, no not really, must be mising package or something - but it's not really needed :-)
[07:55] <WeirdAl> znh: what am I looking for in fstab?
[07:55] <WeirdAl> I can't do anything from within Ubuntu because it won't boot.
[07:55] <znh> WeirdAl, be sure that everything is okay
[07:55] <darkheart> znh Okay =) I don't know anything about it, but is there a dutch channel for Ubuntu?
[07:55] <WeirdAl> So I'm using DSL
[07:55] <znh> darkheart, yea there is
[07:55] <znh> WeirdAl, you can mount your linux partition from DSL
[07:56] <WeirdAl> Yeah I have
[07:56] <jchico> znh, ah seems to be working now, anymore repositories that I should have besides the two that the documenation had?
[07:56] <znh> WeirdAl, then what's the **** prob :P
[07:56] <WeirdAl> The prob is I don't know what I'm looking for in fstab
[07:56] <znh> jchico, I don't recommend you
[07:56] <medamaybe> can someone explain to me the  syntax of the sudoers file? I'm talking about this line "root    ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[07:56] <znh> WeirdAl, can you put it on pastebin or somethin
[07:56] <darkheart> WeirdAl Paste your fstab somewhere
[07:56] <znh> darkheart, :P
[07:57] <WeirdAl> Well it'll take me a while.
[07:57] <WeirdAl> Hang on
[07:57] <darkheart> znh Haha..I can't believe I asked if there was Dutch ubuntu channel..pastebin is hosted on the Dutch mirror isn't it?
[07:57] <Seveas> medamaybe, the syntax uf sudo is incomprehensible
[07:57] <znh> darkheart, yea the domain is from the netherlands
[07:57] <Seveas> read the manpage for sudoers and start crying :)
[07:57] <iotc247> Is there a way to get the places menu nautilus links to use --browser ?
[07:57] <znh> iotc247, right mouse button, and then you can configure it too use any browser
[07:57] <medamaybe> right...
[07:58] <slask3n> medamaybe: have you read manpages for sudoers?
[07:58] <iotc247> When I right click lets say Computer under places it just opens it up.. It wont let me change the command to use --browser
[07:58] <slask3n> medamaybe:
[07:59] <medamaybe> yes, I have, but I don't get it
[08:00] <Seveas> medamaybe, neither did I, and I must have read it 5 times :)
[08:00] <Seveas> I gave up trying to understand
[08:00] <WeirdAl> znh, darkheart: http://pastebin.com/346081
[08:00] <medamaybe> hmm..question...are you serious?
[08:00] <Seveas> medamaybe, unfortunately yes
[08:00] <medamaybe> :(
[08:01] <Seveas> but it was a few years ago in my new-to-sudo years
[08:01] <slask3n> medamaybe: what are you going to do? I just copied the line "root ALL=(ALL) ALL" and changed the "root" to te username  and than it works
[08:01] <medamaybe> the man page of sudoers is HUGE
[08:01] <Seveas> maybe my brain grew back since then
[08:01] <darkheart> WeirdAl Your fstab looks alright to me.
[08:01] <medamaybe> slask3n, I know, that's what I did and it works now,  I just wanted to understan what I was doing, that's all
[08:01] <WeirdAl> OK then
[08:01] <iotc247> Znh any ideas?
[08:01] <WeirdAl> I'll reboot and tell you what the panic is
[08:01] <darkheart> WeirdAl Okay
[08:01] <Lever> Are there any good apps for formatting drives? with GUI...
[08:02] <darkheart> Lever I think qtparted might do that.
[08:02] <darkheart> !qtparted
[08:02] <WeirdAl> I know there's nothing wrong with /dev/hda1 because I can browse it.
[08:02] <ubotu> darkheart: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:02] <goldfish> cfdisk tbh.
[08:02] <Thorondor> how can i add own programs to the "applications" menu in gnome?
[08:02] <slask3n> medamaybe: I don't know really, I wondered a little too. But I've never looked into it for real
[08:02] <goldfish> who needs that gui malarky :)
[08:03] <iotc247> @Thorondor try using smeg (Install by using sudo aptitude install smeg) It should allow you to do it.
[08:03] <Lever> Don't wanna read any man pages ;)
[08:03] <Thorondor> ok
[08:03] <WeirdAl> darkheart: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:03] <Duvel> lol @ Lever
[08:03] <znh> WeirdAl, openneing
[08:04] <goldfish> WeirdAl: did you build your own kernel?
[08:04] <WeirdAl> hell no
[08:04] <WeirdAl> :)
[08:04] <goldfish> hmm.
[08:04] <WeirdAl> Last time I used it I think I got a kernel update
[08:04] <phantom_> Hi, entered a DVD in Xine and got: I get the following error: The source can"t be read.  Maybe you
[08:04] <phantom_>  don"t have enough rights for this, or source doesn"t contain data (e.g:
[08:04] <phantom_>  not disk in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[08:04] <WeirdAl> Which is why I've been looking for a copy of the kernel, in case my update screwed up.
[08:04] <goldfish> From my experience that error meant there wasnt enough support for the hdd in the kernel.
[08:05] <iotc247> How can I edit the places menu so that the nautilus links use --browser?
[08:05] <znh> WeirdAl, you are using dualboot?
[08:05] <WeirdAl> znh: no
[08:05] <Duvel> WeirdAl, did you update the right version of kernel for your cpu?
[08:05] <Seveas> iotc247, make nautilus use browser mode by default
[08:05] <znh> iotc247, we've heard the question, can you question it in more detail please?
[08:05] <Sangoku> what's the game most played in ubuntu community ?
[08:05] <WeirdAl> I just let it update. I figured dpkg was smart enough to update to the right thing.
[08:06] <iotc247> The computer link under places doesnt use --browser
[08:06] <iotc247> I want it to.
[08:06] <darkheart> WeirdAl Is there a recovery mode option to boot your kernel?
[08:06] <Lever> Hmm qtparted just formatted an 80gb drive in 1sec?.. neat
[08:06] <WeirdAl> darkheart: yes, same problem there.
[08:07] <WeirdAl> There was another line, though. I'll get it.
[08:07] <darkheart> WeirdAl Hmm..odd. I had the same error as well when I tried to boot a custom kernel.
[08:07] <chrismy> could anyone help me on php4? why won't it work?
[08:07] <Seveas> chrismy, what's the prob?
[08:08] <WeirdAl> here we are
[08:08] <WeirdAl> Two lines:
[08:08] <WeirdAl> VFS: Mounted root (cramfs filesystem) readonly.
[08:08] <WeirdAl> VFS: Cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block (0,0)
[08:08] <chrismy> hi Seveas http://clch.zapto.org that is my apache2 server. but why php4 is not working?
[08:09] <lJlolel> i want to run a blog on my server easily ------ sooo i installed zope-coreblog and ran makezope2.7instance but.. yea how do i start blogging?
[08:09] <chicken-man> Hi every one
[08:09] <darkheart> chrismy It looks like you need to edit your apache config
[08:09] <Seveas> chrismy, install libapache2-mod-php4
[08:09] <chrismy> darkheart, hmm how?
[08:09] <chrismy> ok
[08:09] <slask3n> Anyone knows how to make my microphone work? I've already fixed the settings in alsamixer..
[08:09] <Seveas> chrismy, sudo a2enmod php4
[08:10] <Seveas> (the installer does that..)(
[08:10] <chrismy> what is a2anmod?
[08:10] <WeirdAl> darkheart: You see why I want to get a copy of the kernel? It's behaving like a bad copy.
[08:10] <Lever> apache 2 enable module
[08:10] <Seveas> a2enmod is for enabling apache modules
[08:10] <WeirdAl> If I can find the kernel that I'm supposed to have updated to, or the kernel that I had before I updated, then I can overwrite and see if that fixes it.
[08:11] <WeirdAl> ... right?
[08:11] <slask3n> Seveas: how do you disable apache mods then?
[08:11] <Lever> a2dismod
[08:11] <Seveas> a2dismod
[08:11] <slask3n> :)
[08:11] <Seveas> there's a2ensite and a2dissite too
[08:11] <darkheart> WeirdAl Yeah, I see what you mean. I'm not sure what the answer to your question is =\
[08:11] <lJlolel> enable site?
[08:12] <Seveas> which of course only work if you use the debian/ubuntu way of configuring the server (which you should!)
[08:12] <camilo> can anyone help with using enlightenment in ubuntu?
[08:12] <WeirdAl> Is the kernel specific to Ubuntu or can I get it from the Linux kernel archives?
[08:12] <Seveas> WeirdAl, you'd better start from ubuntu sources if you want to customize
[08:12] <WeirdAl> I don't want to customize
[08:12] <Seveas> and use the ubuntu build system
[08:13] <WeirdAl> I want to roll back a kernel update
[08:13] <slask3n> Seveas: You seems to know a lot :p Do you know what can make my mic not working?
[08:13] <chrismy> Seveas, it is still not working
[08:13] <Seveas> WeirdAl, why's that?
[08:13] <WeirdAl> I can't use the Ubuntu anything until I get a new kernel
[08:13] <Seveas> chrismy, restart apache
[08:13] <snpz> hi dudes
[08:13] <uthini> guys, small problemo
[08:13] <chrismy> Seveas, i did
[08:13] <darkheart> chrismy It is working
[08:13] <snpz> i have one interesting question
[08:13] <uthini> Seveas, wats the fstab abrievation for a straight linux partition?
[08:13] <chrismy> darkheart, it is already?
[08:14] <snpz> is it possible to connect Ubuntu desktop in Windows based domain?
[08:14] <darkheart> chrismy Your test page works.
[08:14] <Seveas> chrismy, yup it works
[08:14] <WeirdAl> Seveas: I've been having kernel panics ever since I updated my kernel the other day, and I can't boot
[08:14] <Seveas> snpz, yes
[08:14] <Seveas> with freenx
[08:14] <chrismy> AHHHHHH.....hmm it doesn't work locally! how come?
[08:14] <WeirdAl> I'm trying to find the kernel as it was before I updated.
[08:14] <Seveas> chrismy, close your browser :)
[08:14] <snpz> Seveas, how?
[08:14] <Seveas> probably it cached the page
[08:15] <chrismy> Seveas, jeez
[08:15] <uthini> !fstab
[08:15] <ubotu> uthini: Not a clue
[08:15] <snpz> might be there is some kind of manual?
[08:15] <uthini> come now you bout you
[08:15] <Seveas> snpz add 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ /' as repository
[08:15] <drewfusmaximus> is there any way i can access data on a windows formatted drive?
[08:15] <chrismy> thanks Seveas !
[08:15] <iotc247> Thanks Seveas for telling me what to search for.. I got it to work..
[08:15] <Seveas> and install the freenx package
[08:15] <snpz> then
[08:15] <uthini> !partitions
[08:15] <ubotu> uthini: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:15] <knowledge_> an dennnn
[08:15] <uthini> !mount
[08:15] <knowledge_> ?
[08:15] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:15] <chrismy> Seveas, but what is a2enmod php4????
[08:15] <Seveas> then come back and i'll guide you further, it's easy :)
[08:15] <uthini> guys pls
[08:16] <iiiears> !ntfs
[08:16] <uthini> pls
[08:16] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[08:16] <drewfusmaximus> what do you mean see !windowsdrives
[08:16] <drewfusmaximus> is that a command?
[08:16] <Seveas> chrismy, with a2dismod/a2enmod you can enable/disable modules
[08:16] <Lever> !windowsdrives
[08:16] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[08:16] <uthini> wots the linux fs name used in fstab?
[08:16] <chrismy> Seveas, hmm but why it does not work with apache?
[08:16] <drewfusmaximus> thanks
[08:16] <darkheart> uthini It depends on what fs you chose to use.
[08:16] <Lever> ext2/3?
[08:16] <Seveas> it's apache-2 specific
[08:16] <uthini> darkheart, linux, fs no 83 in the list
[08:16] <iiiears> roll up your pants leg that was a flood....
[08:17] <uthini> not 85 which is ext3
[08:17] <Seveas> iiiears, ?
[08:17] <darkheart> uthini That's either ext2 or ext3, can't remember.
[08:17] <WeirdAl> Seveas: so is there anywhere I can download the old kernel, put it on CD and copy it across to my dead PC?
[08:17] <snpz> Seveas, ok - i added this repository
[08:17] <iiiears> got the answer to mounting a windows drive three different  times
[08:17] <Seveas> snpz, apt-get update && apt-get install freenx
[08:17] <uthini> darkheart, thx
[08:17] <chrismy> wow as if this channel people know so much than the other specific channels.....weird
[08:17] <w1ng> hi
[08:17] <emile> ubuntulinux.nl looks like there's an active dutch community
[08:18] <Seveas> emile, de NL community is inderdaad redelijk actief
[08:18] <slask3n> Doesn't anyone know how to make a microphone work in Ubuntu?? I really thought it should just be plug-and-play like the ouput-device but it doesn't work...
[08:18] <w1ng> i have a little prob with my linux
[08:18] <uthini> darkheart, thx
[08:18] <darkheart> uthini I guess it's ext2 then. Np.
[08:18] <Seveas> !nl
[08:18] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[08:18] <uthini> its ext2
[08:18] <iiiears> Ubuntu "Humanity towards others"
[08:19] <uthini> darkheart, may i pvt?
[08:19] <drewfusmaximus> im sure this is a stupid question but where should i save that file for windows mounting
[08:19] <uthini> i need to mount 2 seperate partitions on 1 drive
[08:19] <chrismy> Seveas, i did sudo a2dismod apche-2 and sudo a2dismod apche-2 it says 'does not exist' why is that so?
[08:19] <darkheart> uthini If it's a question, best to ask here in case someone else has some idea.
[08:19] <iiiears> drew anywhere you like would be fine. - you can run it with suydo
[08:19] <w1ng> I installed ubuntu on an 400MHz PII with a network card built i
[08:20] <chrismy> Seveas, oops should be a2enmod
[08:20] <drewfusmaximus> it will automatically find it?
[08:20] <Derkommissar> why does apt-get keep saying this
[08:20] <Derkommissar> The following packages have been kept back:
[08:20] <Derkommissar>   gstreamer0.8-swfdec mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support
[08:20] <w1ng> Ubuntu runs, but can't establish a connection  with the internet
[08:20] <uthini> darkheart, how do i mount the 1st partition? i took my 80 gb drive and split it into 2 partitions
[08:20] <uthini> thinking it would make like easier
[08:20] <w1ng> it is able to ping other sites
[08:20] <uthini> i was wrong
[08:20] <Seveas> derek, because you enabled backports...
[08:20] <w1ng> but i can't access the sites with a browser
[08:20] <darkheart> uthini What's the name of the device? /dev/what?
[08:21] <mypapit> anybody has ubuntu universe list for me to include in my /etc/apt/source.list
[08:21] <chrismy> Seveas, ??
[08:21] <Seveas> !source
[08:21] <ubotu> Seveas: No idea
[08:21] <Seveas> !sources
[08:21] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:21] <Seveas> ^-- mypapit
[08:21] <mypapit> Seveas, yup
[08:21] <Seveas> chrismy, a2enmod takes a module name as argument
[08:22] <uthini> darkheart, the device is /dev/hdb1, if i try to mount /dev/hdb1 it doesn't load both partitions (obviously)
[08:22] <jchico> i seem to be having problems with my soundcard (SBAuidy 2), it detects it... but I can't hear anything! :(
[08:22] <Seveas> mypapit read that pastebin url
[08:22] <Seveas> !audigy
[08:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[08:22] <drewfusmaximus> its mounted but is read only, i gues ntfs is always read only?
[08:22] <darkheart> uthini Right, so you have to mount the other partition like /dev/hdb5 or whatever.
[08:22] <drewfusmaximus> so i should copy everything and reformat?
[08:22] <w1ng> is there a logfile which shows errors on accessing the internet?
[08:22] <mypapit> Seveas, thanks
[08:22] <w1ng> i am a linux n00b
[08:22] <jchico> oh wow, why does Ubuntu do that?!
[08:22] <Want3d> how long before the final release of the 'Breezy' version?
[08:23] <WeirdAl> Is it even possible to get an old kernel?
[08:23] <ompaul> !breezy
[08:23] <ubotu> breezy is probably the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[08:23] <Seveas> drewfusmaximus, write support for ntfs is non-existent
[08:23] <Seveas> jchico, it's an error in the alsa rules, fixed in breezy
[08:23] <Seveas> ( i thought)
[08:23] <ompaul> WeirdAl, you can get Warty and install that
[08:23] <Seveas> WeirdAl, I don't think you can go back a kernel version
[08:23] <WeirdAl> I'd rather avoid having to get an entire copy of Ubuntu.
[08:24] <Seveas> because it's overwritten on the server too
[08:24] <iiiears> A lot of near successes at writing to ntfs. - none that most would rely on.
[08:24] <WeirdAl> I might as well just wait until I go home and reinstall it.
[08:24] <bhappy> hi all
[08:24] <uthini> darkheart, i'm nt making much progress, i can only see dev hdb1
[08:24] <WeirdAl> Seveas: There's no archive?
[08:24] <chrismy> Seveas, 'a2enmod takes a module name as argument' in English would be?
[08:24] <jchico> so do I have to restart or something?
[08:25] <Want3d> wow a gui installer :X
[08:25] <WeirdAl> Seveas: is the kernel specific to Ubuntu?
[08:25] <Seveas> WeirdAl, yes...
[08:25] <WeirdAl> :/
[08:25] <bhappy> i'm trying to install ubuntu using FromWindows wiki page, the cd approach part
[08:25] <Seveas> chrismy, it means that you use 'a2enmod some_apache_module' and not 'a2enmod apache2'
[08:25] <chrismy> ahh thanks
[08:25] <w1ng> can someone in here help me with the f*cking intenet?
[08:26] <ryguy> hey seveas, sorry to interrupt, i just got back from doing some errands but i was wondering... does it matter whether i get win98 (then i have the option of OEM or custom) or win98 SE (OEM or custom)
[08:26] <lsuactiafner> breezy will have gcc 4?
[08:26] <bhappy> stuck on the can't find cdrom message :(
[08:26] <chrismy> w1ng, pretty hot there lol
[08:26] <WeirdAl> Seveas: can I download (through http) the *current* kernel?
[08:26] <darkheart> uthini Hmmm..Not too sure, but try 'sudo fdisk /dev/hdb' then hit 'p' in the menu to print the partitions.
[08:26] <ompaul> w1ng, not really, what do you mean that you are having problems accessing the internet
[08:26] <iiiears> 98se has better support for usb and network sharing
[08:26] <Seveas> ryguy, no it does not matter
[08:27] <w1ng> ompaul: i am able to ping other sites but i cannot access them via browser
[08:27] <uthini> darkheart, my partitions are hdb1p1 & hdb1p5, but the system wont let me mount those
[08:27] <Seveas> iiiears, he just wants his mbr back ;)
[08:27] <uthini> ses they don't exist
[08:27] <iiiears> ah okay
[08:27] <wulfy814> ok - so I am about to replace my first windows xp box with ubuntu
[08:27] <chrismy> Seveas, so how do find this module names?
[08:27] <lsuactiafner> qemu or something allows to write to ntfs, might be wrong tho
[08:27] <w1ng> and other ppl cannot access my server via ssh
[08:27] <wulfy814> how do I handle users on the network
[08:27] <wulfy814> they will be sharing files from a samba server
[08:27] <w1ng> but this may be another problem
[08:27] <darkheart> uthini Can you paste the output of the fdisk print command somewhere?
[08:27] <drewfusmaximus> i just installed ubuntu last night and have had a lot of trouble, but thanks to everyone on this channel ive solved almost everything, thanks everybody
[08:27] <wulfy814> mix of windoze and ubuntu stations
[08:27] <Seveas> chrismy, php already works so you don't need to
[08:27] <Seveas> :)
[08:27] <ompaul> w1ng, which browser
[08:27] <wulfy814> do I try and make sure that each user has the same uid, gid?
[08:27] <w1ng> doesn't matter
[08:27] <wulfy814> on each box, or doesn't it matter?
[08:28] <w1ng> it also cannot synchronize the time
[08:28] <Seveas> wulfy814, use nis :)
[08:28] <w1ng> when it starts up
[08:28] <w1ng> no access at all, except with ping
[08:28] <ompaul> w1ng, stick to one problem at a time or I will call you a troll
[08:28] <chrismy> Seveas, erm not that i meant. but like apache2 is apache-2. how about the rest? example : module45 is module-45 ? right?
[08:28] <Seveas> chrismy, no
[08:28] <ompaul> w1ng, which browser was it
[08:28] <Seveas> php4 is php4
[08:29] <w1ng> ompaul, it was firefox
[08:29] <medamaybe> does anyone know of a good php editor that runs on ubuntu?
[08:29] <Determinist> Seveas, is there any tool that will allow me to remap the available resolutions and refresh rates available for me?
[08:29] <Seveas> w1ng: Open firefox and go to about:config. Now search for network.dns.disableIPV6 and set that value to true. Restart Firefox to see the effect.
[08:29] <ompaul> w1ng, and which site did you not access?
[08:29] <darkheart> medamaybe vi =)
[08:29] <wulfy814> Seveas: like "apt-get install ypserv"
[08:29] <Seveas> Determinist, dpkg-reconfigure xseerver-xorg
[08:29] <medamaybe> lol
[08:29] <darkheart> !tell medamaybe about nvu
[08:29] <Seveas> wulfy814, apt-get install nis
[08:29] <chrismy> Seveas, yes i know. but then you said apache2 is apache-2 as module?
[08:29] <w1ng> ompaul, the internet doesn't seem to work at all
[08:29] <adjacent> i seem to be having major problems with my sound card. enough to cause the machine to hang just after loading gdm (i think). im using the emu10k alsa driver and have alot of unhandled interrupt warnings in kern.log just before the machine hangs
[08:29] <Seveas> chrismy, I never said that..
[08:30] <w1ng> neither http, nor anything else
[08:30] <wulfy814> Seveas: I'm running ClarkConnect (based on CentOS) as a server
[08:30] <NoUse> there is somethign quite funny about saying the internet doesn't work while on IRC
[08:30] <adjacent> i cant find any docs regarding this, is it a known problem?
[08:30] <medamaybe> thanks
[08:30] <Seveas> chrismy, ah, I see where this went wrong
[08:30] <w1ng> ompaul, i am looking for a logfile or something
[08:30] <wulfy814> Seveas: so I should install NIS server on it?
[08:30] <Seveas> I misunderstuud your question
[08:30] <lJlolel> how can i put a blog on my server?
[08:30] <ompaul> w1ng, none that I know
[08:30] <w1ng> hmm
[08:30] <Seveas> so my answer (with apache-2 in it) does not make sense :)(
[08:30] <chrismy> Seveas, hehe you did
[08:30] <NoUse> w1ng is dns working?
[08:31] <lJlolel> i can code a blog myself, but that would take a while, is there something like phpbb for blogs?
[08:31] <w1ng> NoUse, how do I check that?
[08:31] <Determinist> Seveas, i've just installed the nvidia drivers, any way this will not screw it all up? :)
[08:31] <ompaul> w1ng, do host www.iol.ie and see what comes back for a start
[08:31] <chrismy> Seveas, so lets say in future, how do i varify their 'names' to enable or disable them?
[08:31] <Seveas> wulfy814, yes
[08:31] <zenlunatic> anyone use a mp3 player in ubuntu? im thinking of getting one but i want to make sure they work in ubuntu
[08:31] <w1ng> ompaul, with firefox?
[08:31] <Seveas> chrismy, /etc/apache2/mods.availabe
[08:31] <ompaul> w1ng, no in a terminal
[08:31] <Seveas> lJlolel, wordpress
[08:31] <quitte> zenlunatic: i use xmms
[08:31] <iotc247> I take it in order to play mp3's and dvd's and such in Breezy I need to use the backports. I also take it that I use the hoary backports. Are they down as they are just ignored while updating the sources. If they are is there another place that I can get what I need to play dvd's and mp3's?
[08:32] <emile> zenlunatic, i use xmms
[08:32] <lJlolel> Seveas, i just apt-got it, but nothing is in v/ar/www/
[08:32] <zenlunatic> quitte: emile i mean hardware mp3 player, like ipod
[08:32] <chrismy> Seveas, erm i see a list of files...what should i do?
[08:32] <Seveas> lJlolel, put the output of dpkg -L wordpress  on a pastebin
[08:32] <Seveas> chrismy, eash of these files is a module :)
[08:32] <lJlolel> whats a pastebin?
[08:32] <Seveas> !pastebin
[08:32] <w1ng> one moment
[08:32] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:32] <Seveas> ^-- lJlolel
[08:32] <emile> zenlunatic, sorry haven't got hardware mp3 player
[08:32] <chrismy> Seveas, :O cool!
[08:33] <w1ng> have to log in via ssh to copy and paste it
[08:33] <Seveas> chrismy, for instance you have php4.conf and php4.load
[08:33] <Seveas> that means there is a module named php4
[08:33] <dawkirst> Hi.
[08:33] <dawkirst> Anyone from Holland here?
[08:33] <Lever> !nl
[08:33] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[08:33] <ompaul> w1ng, if you can log in via ssh then the 'internet' must be working - or you have some firewall rules in the way
[08:33] <chrismy> Seveas, ahh ok but then how you know apache2 should be apache-2?
[08:34] <WeirdAl> Anyone? All I want is to download the kernel through http :/
[08:34] <w1ng> ompaul, I am logging in via LAN. Logging in over WAN doen't work eather
[08:34] <w1ng> either
[08:34] <darkheart> WeirdAl The problem is that the repos only supply the package =\ so you'd have to install it if you got it from the servers.
[08:34] <phlaegel> anybody else notice that nautilus on breezy sorts uppercase before lowercase now?
[08:34] <Seveas> chrismy, discard that apache-2 answer, it made no sense as answer to your question
[08:34] <chrismy> Seveas, files in  /etc/apache2/mods-available do not have 'apache' on them
[08:35] <iiiears> weirdal,   list/search herehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:35] <WeirdAl> iiiears: I did.
[08:35] <ompaul> w1ng, so do this also tracepath www.iol.ie and show is the results in pastebin.ubuntu.nl
[08:35] <Seveas> pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:35] <WeirdAl> I searched "kernel" but I found loads of packages and I don't know which one I want
[08:35] <ompaul> w1ng, sorry what Seveas sayd
[08:35] <Seveas> (ubuntu.nl is hijacked by a crappy hosting provider)
[08:35] <ompaul> w1ng, sorry what Seveas said even
[08:35] <chrismy> Seveas, well that php has solved and easy to understand. but i would like to know about apache and others too
[08:36] <iiiears> apt-get -d -linux-kernel-    ?
[08:36] <WeirdAl> I can't apt-get because I can't boot!
[08:36] <iiiears> ouch! :s
[08:36] <WeirdAl> I need the kernel because I think I have a corrupt one
[08:37] <WeirdAl> And all I want to do is get it again and copy it over the top to see if that's the case.
[08:37] <iotc247> Hmm.. Maybe you could use a livecd to boot in and chroot and install it?
[08:37] <WeirdAl> Well I can boot into DSL
[08:37] <lJlolel> Seveas, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1617
[08:37] <WeirdAl> But then I don't have internet
[08:37] <iiiears> boot a live cd and mount the partitions to save the files you need or email them to yourself?
[08:37] <iotc247> Why wouldn't you have internet WierdAl?
[08:37] <WeirdAl> Well when I get home I can just install Ubuntu over again.
[08:37] <lJlolel> Seveas, i tried by moving evertyhing in /etc/wordpress/ to /var/ww/
[08:37] <w1ng> ompaul done
[08:38] <iiiears> use the default kernel "386" to boot?
[08:38] <WeirdAl> I won't have internet because I have a wireless card that I had to install using a Wiki tutorial
[08:38] <WeirdAl> I only have one kernel
[08:38] <hendra> hi
[08:38] <iotc247> Oh ok.
[08:38] <WeirdAl> it's vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386
[08:38] <hendra> hiiii....
[08:38] <Ignignokt> what is the command to make a directroy in the terminal?
[08:38] <iotc247> Hmm then you could do this. Do you have a usb drive or a cdrw?
[08:38] <Seveas> lJlolel, move that back please
[08:38] <NoUse> Ignignokt mkdir
[08:38] <WeirdAl> And it won't mount my root
[08:38] <Ignignokt> thanks
[08:38] <iotc247> Oh.
[08:38] <lJlolel> Seveas, done
[08:39] <Seveas> lJlolel, and ln -s /usr/share/wordpress /var/www/wordpress
[08:39] <adjacent> i cannot get sound to work properly. when i try to run esd i just get spammed by PCI errors and unhandled interrupts from emu10k1
[08:39] <Seveas> lJlolel, and read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/wordpress
[08:39] <medamaybe> omg...VI is impossible to use!
[08:39] <adjacent> im stumped as to how to fix this. any suggestions?
[08:39] <lJlolel> Seveas, oooh, isee, thanks!
[08:39] <darkheart> medamaybe vi is the best =)
[08:40] <adjacent> medamaybe: try running vimtutor
[08:40] <medamaybe> lol
[08:40] <medamaybe> k
[08:40] <phlaegel> medamaybe: you have to make friends with it...
[08:40] <quitte> medamaybe: vimtutor is a nice program.
[08:40] <medamaybe> alright, I'll take a look at vimtutor
[08:40] <dalamar> or use nano and make things easier ;)
[08:40] <darkheart> medamaybe Btw, if you want to use vi, you should get vim. More functionality.
[08:40] <adjacent> :s/easier/slower/g
[08:40] <medamaybe> yeah, I got vim
[08:40] <phlaegel> or cream... it's a pretty friendly vim (gui only)
[08:41] <iiiears> medamaybe - psst - often gksudo gedit will let you do what you need
[08:41] <ITguy> vi is much easier than nano
[08:41] <lJlolel> what percentage of servers have vim?
[08:41] <darkheart> dalamar nano sucks in some cases..like when you are remoted into something and pushing ctrl+button doesn't get you the desired effect.
[08:41] <ITguy> But not until you learn it's power
[08:41] <lJlolel> ITguy, nano is definetely easier to use, though vi's mroe pwoeful
[08:41] <medamaybe> gedit is alright I guess, but I have my mind set on vim now :)
[08:41] <lJlolel> more powerful
[08:41] <medamaybe> let's see if I can be friends with vim
[08:41] <dalamar> i wouldnt know , it edit text files without the : crap thats all I need
[08:41] <NoUse> and if you have 6-8 spare thumbs, you can use Emacs
[08:42] <adjacent> haha
[08:42] <ITguy> vi is easier for editing configuration files
[08:42] <iiiears> lol - pain is bad.  - vim is painful ergo vim is bad. ... ;)
[08:42] <ITguy> nano is easier for newbies
[08:42] <ITguy> d20d
[08:42] <lJlolel> iiiears, vim is plainful ergonomics?
[08:42] <ITguy> Thats all I have to type in vi to delete 20 lines below the cursor
[08:43] <Seveas> guys, let's not do editor warfare in here...
[08:43] <ITguy> Can you do that in 4 keystrokes in nano? Didn't think so
[08:43] <dalamar> which makes no sense
[08:43] <ITguy> So which one is easier?
[08:43] <ITguy> intuitive != easy
[08:43] <Seveas> ITguy, nano is easier to learn
[08:43] <iiiears> Seveas - you are right as usual. - pardon me.
[08:43] <Seveas> vim is more powerful
[08:43] <Seveas> and so each has its advantage
[08:43] <dalamar> its not obvious, I dont want to learn a new language to edit a file ;)
[08:43] <haakonn> and if you want something even more powerful, try emacs ;)
[08:44] <Seveas> dalamar, haakonn stop the editor war...
[08:44] <haakonn> sowwy
[08:44] <bhappy> the best tool is that you are used to
[08:44] <dalamar> simple opinion no war
 I think notepad is the best </troll>
[08:44] <kevman> HAHA.
[08:44] <medamaybe> who on earth would one use jkl and v  to change the cursor...that's what the cursor keys are for...:/ lol
[08:44] <Seveas>  /kick ITguy
[08:44] <Seveas> :p
[08:45] <iiiears> lol
[08:45] <Seveas> medamaybe, stop it.
[08:45] <darkheart> Hehe Seveas swung his foot but missed ITguy
[08:45] <ITguy> ok, no more editor wars
[08:45] <Seveas> darkheart, intentionally of course :)
[08:45] <NoUse> medamaybe try to use a terminal without arrow keys
[08:45] <darkheart> Seveas Of course =)
[08:45] <medamaybe> NoUse, why?
[08:46] <Seveas> NoUse, medamaybe...
[08:46] <lJlolel> Seveas, thanks a lot!! wordpress rocks
[08:46] <medamaybe> Seveas, ?
[08:46] <Seveas> lJlolel, have fun with it :)
[08:47] <medamaybe> k...sorry
[08:48] <WeirdAl> Bah
[08:48] <WeirdAl> I give up
[08:48] <WeirdAl> I'm going
[08:48] <WeirdAl> Thanks anyway :/
[08:49] <Seveas> 'navond _SWAT_
[08:49] <KG2056> hello everyone
[08:49] <snpz> is there any repository, where i can download games?
[08:50] <KG2056> anyone know what the listy of servers is for apt-get so i can get other applications? icewm, blackbox and fluxbox arent in the current list :(
[08:50] <lJlolel> how do i compile quake3 source ;-)?
[08:50] <snpz> as quake
[08:51] <lJlolel> KG2056, icewm is in my apt (from ubuntuguide)
[08:51] <KG2056> hmm, ok lemme take a look at it
[08:51] <liquidfire_> Anybody got the Lexmark x2230 working under Linux?
[08:51] <lJlolel> as is fluxbox (ubuntuguide.org)
[08:52] <Seveas> ubuntuguide is evil
[08:52] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[08:52] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[08:52] <darkheart> Seveas Some of the 'guides' in the wiki aren't very explanatory either.
[08:52] <lJlolel> Seveas, i found it pretty useful, though i agree that i dont understand what i did unless i was already familiar with it
[08:53] <ITguy> lJlolel: Correct me if I'm wrong someone else, but the Quake III source code was released. This doesn't mean the artwork and sounds are released too
[08:53] <ITguy> I dont think they are
[08:53] <dalamar> some of it is just plain wrong too
[08:53] <Seveas> darkheart, but the wiki is easy to improve, the editor of ubuntuguide does not cooperate..
[08:53] <lJlolel> ITguy, oh
[08:53] <puff> Hello.
[08:54] <dalamar> they need to change the gxmms section of the wiki for sure
[08:54] <liquidfire_> yeah
[08:54] <darkheart> Seveas That's true enough.
[08:54] <liquidfire_> you need to use custom sounds
[08:54] <lJlolel> eitherway, i'm glad breezy will have a good FAQ
[08:54] <ITguy> Seveas: I'm taking it you've contacted the ubuguide admin?
[08:54] <liquidfire_> and models
[08:54] <Seveas> ITguy, we've talked
[08:54] <liquidfire_> !ntfs
[08:54] <Seveas> and he does not want to cooperate and called me a whiner after I complained about some things (including possible fixes)
[08:54] <h08817> any1 in here have a gmail account? mine isn't working for some reason
[08:55] <liquidfire_> !mount
[08:55] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:55] <liquidfire_> !windowdrives
[08:55] <ubotu> Wish i knew, liquidfire_
[08:55] <Seveas> lol
[08:55] <liquidfire_> !windowsdrives
[08:55] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[08:55] <puff> Seveas: Thanks.
[08:55] <liquidfire_> !windowdrivesmenuts
[08:55] <ubotu> liquidfire_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:55] <puff> Seveas: At least I assume that's you.
[08:55] <liquidfire_> :p
[08:55] <ITguy> OT: Why is ubuntu making a "Ubuntu Engineer Certification"
[08:55] <kevman> ?
[08:55] <kevman> !mount
[08:55] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:55] <puff> ITguy: I would assume to make the PHB's happy.
[08:55] <kevman> Cooool.
[08:55] <ITguy> OT: Why is ubuntu making a "Ubuntu Engineer Certification"
[08:55] <ITguy> Wouldn't a generic Debian Cert be alot more useful?
[08:56] <Seveas> ITguy, no, Ubuntu isn't Debian
[08:56] <puff> ITguy: If the ubuntu guys controlled the Debian project, maybe they'd consider making a generic debian certification. As it is...
[08:56] <h08817> any1 having trouble with gmail
[08:56] <ray> can somebody help me with amixer and alsamixer?
[08:56] <milestone> i have upgraded to breezy yesterday
[08:56] <lJlolel> h08817, not here
[08:57] <milestone> and since then i am not able to type curly braces anywhere inside gnome
[08:57] <h08817> lJlolel: what is the url again i forget
[08:57] <ITguy> Seveas: I realize that Ubuntu is a debian fork, but wouldn't a debian cert have more credibility?
[08:57] <milestone> had hoary before
[08:57] <lJlolel> h08817, for gmail?
[08:57] <milestone> config is the same
[08:57] <h08817> lJlolel: ya i forget
[08:57] <milestone> i am lost
[08:57] <lJlolel> h08817, gmail.com?
[08:57] <h08817> lJlolel: i haven't checked my mail in like forever
[08:57] <ITguy> The ubuntu console config is mostly the same
[08:57] <bonvenon> can anyone help me with my epson perfection scanner? it's supposed to have "complete" support by sane, but I have som problems...
[08:57] <h08817> lJlolel: thats what i thought
[08:57] <Want3d> on verion Hoary, what version of Gnome comes with it?
[08:57] <h08817> lJlolel: isn't working for me right now
[08:58] <ITguy> Want3d: 2.10
[08:58] <n3t0> some one run adesklets on ubuntu
[08:58] <Seveas> ITguy, ubuntu is definitely NOT a fork of debian
[08:58] <lJlolel> milestone, i've hard of a problem like that: gnome automatically creates shortcuts
[08:58] <Want3d> anything for 2.11x in the repository for it?
[08:58] <puff> ITguy: Maybe the ubuntu people are more focused on building ubuntu's credibility than on piggybacking on debian's credibility.
[08:58] <lJlolel> milestone, so if you were in a meny and hit curly brace accidentally somehow, then that key becomes the shortcut for that menu
[08:58] <lJlolel> rather than what it should be, or something like that
[08:58] <Seveas> Want3d, no, and it's not advised to try it too
[08:58] <Hikaru79> Is there available an Ubuntu DVD that contains many of the repositories right on the DVD, to help people on dial-up, like there is for Debian?
[08:58] <Chadza> I just changed cursors with gcursor, does it take a X restart for that to go into effect?
[08:58] <ITguy> Seveas: I'm honestly not trolling... but if debain packages dont always work on ubuntu, how is that not a fork?
[08:59] <puff> Seveas: I must admit, I'm idly curious as to what the right answer to that question is.
[08:59] <Seveas> Hikaru79, yes
[08:59] <Hikaru79> Seveas, really? :) Where at? I couldn't find it on ubuntulinux.org
[08:59] <ITguy> Also, Ubuntu didnt join the DCC to unify debian based distros
[08:59] <milestone> lJlolel, what?
[08:59] <Seveas> Hikaru79, you can find a dvd mirror on wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:59] <bonvenon> ...it seems to be found by sane, but sometimes get an I/O error. and sometimes it seems not to respond at all. if I run Xsane as root it seems to be OK.
[08:59] <Hikaru79> They have a DVD there, but all it is is a combined livecd/install dvd.
[08:59] <milestone> so you think i should check the shortcut configuration?
[08:59] <Seveas> ITguy, read mako's blog at mako.cc/copyrighteous
[08:59] <n3t0> nozey, aeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:59] <Seveas> he recently gave a few presentations about it
[08:59] <Seveas> and links to the slides from his blog
[08:59] <nozey> n3t0, hi man =)
[09:00] <h08817> wow this is the quietest time this room has ever been that i have seen
[09:00] <Hikaru79> Thank you Seveas :)
[09:00] <lJlolel> Seveas, how is ubuntu  not a fork of debian?
[09:00] <ITguy> Seveas: Thanks, I'll read that and then come back
[09:00] <milestone> anyone here running breezy?
[09:00] <plagerism> I know Ubuntu doesnt officially support the multiverse?? But are bug reports on such packages appreciated anyways??
[09:00] <bonvenon> can anyone help me?!
[09:00] <Seveas> lJlolel, read what i told ITguy :)
[09:00] <Hikaru79> Seveas, can one actually install Ubuntu from that DVD, or just use it as a repository entry in sources.list ?
[09:00] <Want3d> milestone, I am
[09:00] <w1ng__> i need a logfile which lists general network-errors
[09:00] <Seveas> Hikaru79, both :)
[09:00] <milestone> i keep getting an error message from gdm whilst logging in something about wrong perms of $HOME/-dmrc but they are 644
[09:00] <ray> can somebody help me with amixer and alsamixer?
[09:01] <mako> lJlolel: it is a fork
[09:01] <Hikaru79> Awesome. Thanks Seveas, I love you.
[09:01] <ITguy> Seveas: $ ping mako.cc results in request timed out
[09:01] <liquidfire_> can somebody tell me the difference between kde/kdm etc and gnome
[09:01] <Seveas> the dvd is an install cd a live cd and a complete main/restricted repository
[09:01] <liquidfire_> it maybe a stupid question
[09:01] <milestone> Want3d, you have that error too?
[09:01] <mako> ITguy: it works fine
[09:01] <liquidfire_> but i don't really understand
[09:01] <ITguy> same with nmap -p 80 mako.cc
[09:01] <w1ng__> a
[09:01] <mako> http://mako.cc/writing/to_fork_or_not_to_fork.html
[09:01] <nozey> can someone help me with adesklets? i get a problem about the python include when i try to run the configure script =\
[09:01] <w1ng__> ompaul
[09:01] <mako> ITguy: dude, stop nmapping my machine
[09:01] <w1ng__> i posted the results
[09:01] <mako> ITguy: or i *will* ban your IP
[09:01] <ompaul> w1ng, I had to eat :-) where did you post those results
[09:02] <ITguy> mako: nmap -p 80 simply connects to port 80. It is NOT malicious
[09:02] <mako> ITguy, lJlolel: the url above is what you are looking for
[09:02] <h08817> lag
[09:02] <h08817> what is nmap?
[09:02] <Want3d> milestone, sorry i missed it, what error?
[09:02] <ITguy> mako: just the same as using a browser. I wanted to see if the port was open
[09:02] <mako> ITguy: sorry.. i overlooked the -p 80, sorry :)
[09:02] <w1ng__> postbin.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:02] <mako> ITguy: i'm perfectly aware of what it does, i just misread. sorry for overreacting
[09:02] <w1ng__> (or something like that)
[09:03] <Seveas> paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:03] <ITguy> mako: Perfectly understandable
[09:03] <Seveas> mako, OMG @ sunglasses
[09:03] <h08817> !nmap
[09:03] <ubotu> h08817: Syntax error in line 1
[09:03] <mako> Seveas: hot huh?
[09:03] <h08817> what is nmap?
[09:03] <Seveas> awesome :)
[09:03] <milestone> i keep getting an error message from gdm whilst logging in something about wrong perms of $HOME/-dmrc but they are 644
[09:03] <mako> h08817: something he could have used telnet for
[09:03] <darkheart> h08817 Tool for scanning ports.
[09:03] <ompaul> w1ng, so you have a connection that gets to the internet
[09:03] <h08817> o
[09:03] <Want3d> milestone, sorry, I dont have that error..
[09:04] <w1ng__> indeed, ompaul
[09:04] <mako> ITguy: tell me if you can't access that, i can just fine
[09:04] <Want3d> milestone, i have had no errors at all running Breezy, everything is smooth and seemlessly, kde and all :)
[09:04] <lJlolel> got it
[09:04] <Ng> milestone: they should be 600
[09:04] <zer0> cant wait for breezy
[09:04] <milestone> oh then you are using kdm
[09:04] <milestone> Ng, i will try that
[09:04] <ompaul> w1ng, so you still got browser problems?
[09:04] <liquidfire_> Anyone :)?
[09:04] <milestone> then although the error says 644
[09:04] <ITguy> works fine. I go through 2 cisco pix firewalls, 1 ichain proxy, and 1 bordermanager proxy here at work
[09:04] <liquidfire_> can somebody tell me the difference between kde/kdm etc and gnome:/?
[09:04] <w1ng__> yes
[09:05] <ITguy> It was being stupid
[09:05] <liquidfire_> and fluxbox
[09:05] <liquidfire_> and that stuff
[09:05] <Want3d> milestone, no i am using GDM
[09:05] <w1ng> but not only browser problems
[09:05] <kemik> liquidfire:  it's different windowmanagers
[09:05] <ompaul> w1ng_, so what does a browser say when you put www.iol.ie into it?
[09:05] <w1ng> Connecting to www.iol.ie
[09:05] <kvidell> anyone here a certified pilot?
[09:06] <mako> ITguy: perhaps one of them is blocking ping
[09:06] <w1ng> and later it will be saying "Timed out"
[09:06] <pomalin> why nvidia-glx go out my breezy ?
[09:06] <w1ng> same with ftp, ntp, ...
[09:06] <mako> Seveas: this place is a madhouse dude.. i don't know how you manage :)
[09:06] <ITguy> mako: It works now for some reason
[09:07] <w1ng> i wished i could check if this has something to do with my router
[09:07] <w1ng> but my windows machine accesses the net without problems
[09:07] <w1ng> even my Mac
[09:07] <Seveas> mako, lots of coffee :)
[09:07] <_frank> w1ng: can you ping the router?
[09:07] <\dev\goat> omg! fglrx works! 4048fps glxgears
[09:07] <w1ng> sure
[09:07] <Seveas> mako, like the rewrite of the CC agenda?
[09:08] <Seveas> mako, *do you* like the rewrite of the CC agenda?
[09:08] <Seveas> (i manage by not typing some words :))
[09:08] <w1ng> i can ping everything
[09:08] <w1ng> even sites on the net
[09:08] <ITguy> mako: Good paper
[09:08] <pomalin> dos somebody under breezy with a nvidia card do a dist-upgrade, and is nvidia-glx still there ?
[09:09] <ITguy> Seveas: Do you happen to know why Ubuntu chose NOT to join DCC? The DCC was formed to improve interoperability and I dont see why ubuntu wouldnt care about this?
[09:09] <adjacent> i need help resolving a sound card issue that is causing my hoary install to hang just after loading gdm.
[09:10] <adjacent> its a SBLive! 5.1 soundcard using the alsa emu10k1 driver
[09:10] <Seveas> ITguy, I have some ideas about why but it would be wrong to share these until they are confirmed
[09:10] <Seveas> otherwise it would be fud/gossip :)
[09:10] <ITguy> Could you PM them? I'm not interested in spreading fud, I'm just personally curious
[09:10] <liquidfire_> can somebody tell me what kdm,gnome,fluxbox,xfce,etc mean I don't really understand anymore?
[09:10] <adjacent> in recovery mode i see errors in kern.log just before the hang
[09:11] <adjacent> localhost kernel: emu10k1: unhandled interrupt: 0xe7400000
[09:11] <adjacent> localhost kernel: interrupt: PCI error
[09:11] <adjacent> localhost kernel: Aieee - PCI error! status 0x60008008, PCI status 0x8280
[09:11] <pomalin> somone under breezy with a nvidia card here ?
[09:11] <liquidfire_> pomalin,
[09:11] <girdappp> selam
[09:11] <liquidfire_> i am
[09:11] <liquidfire_> but i havent installed any driver yet
[09:11] <liquidfire_> getting compiling errors
[09:11] <pomalin> ok liquidfire thanks
[09:12] <pomalin> I was the nvidia-glx from synaptics before
[09:12] <liquidfire_> yeah
[09:12] <liquidfire_> but that causes alot of problems
[09:12] <puff> http://pastebin.com/346169
[09:12] <liquidfire_> for me
[09:12] <liquidfire_> pomalin, look on the forums
[09:13] <liquidfire_> there is a howto
[09:13] <puff> So, I'm a little unclear as to what he's saying here - does that mean I need to apt the separate package, or that it's in a separate package, but that package should be installed by default on an ubuntu install?
[09:13] <mako> Seveas: yes :)
[09:13] <mako> Seveas: more information is always apprecaited
[09:13] <mako> Seveas: until it becomes too much and get put on other pages
[09:13] <Seveas> indeed
[09:14] <tristanmike> good afternoon all
[09:14] <Seveas> that's why the page already links to a lot :)
[09:14] <pomalin> but last day the dist upgrade remove the nvidia-glx, and install libdrm, and I have no more direct rendering, and when I want to reinstal the nvidia-glx, synaptics wants to remove a lot of things
[09:15] <liquidfire_> pomalin, try to compile your own drivers then
[09:15] <liquidfire_> via the howto
[09:15] <pomalin> And the thing I want to know, is :I'm the only one with this issue ?
[09:15] <liquidfire_> oh
[09:15] <liquidfire_> dunno then
[09:15] <pomalin> yes I will try this liquidfire
[09:18] <ray> you guys are gonna shoot me
[09:18] <darkheart> quick shoot first, ask later
[09:19] <liquidfire_> lol
[09:19] <kvidell> ray: Why? :-D
[09:19] <kvidell> (best intro ever)
[09:19] <liquidfire_> what if someone came in you guys are going to bondage me and then shoot me
[09:19] <liquidfire_> :o
[09:20] <darkheart> Then everyone would be happy if it was a girl and sad if it was a guy.
[09:20] <liquidfire_> ;)
[09:20] <liquidfire_> but remember this Ah, the internet that place, where men are woman, woman are men, and little cute girls are FBI agents.: :p
[09:21] <liquidfire_> so you never know darkheart  :)
[09:21] <darkheart> Hahaha.
[09:22] <iiiears> ubotu games is FAQs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25723 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux-Gamers-HOWTO/ http://icculus.org/lgfaq/ News http://www.linux-gamers.net/  (add a link? ubotu games is also mylink)
[09:22] <ubotu> ...but games is already something else...
[09:22] <zenlunatic> how do you encode cds into vorbis files?
[09:22] <iiiears> !games
[09:22] <ubotu> well, games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153, or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers.
[09:22] <liquidfire_> haha check this link a random joke using man sex :) http://internet.ls-la.net/man-pages/sex.html
[09:22] <dalamar> sound juicer will rip em to ogg
[09:22] <zenlunatic> dalamar: whats sound juicer?
[09:23] <monkey89> hey - for breezy, im trying to get nvidia working.  i have nvidia.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.12-7-686/volatile, modprobe nvidia doesn't work - where's the module supposed to be?  whats going on?
[09:23] <dalamar> program in gnome .. it will rip it to ogg, dont know if it will encode to ogg if the cd is already on your hdd
[09:23] <iiiears> ubotu games is also News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[09:24] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[09:24] <paulj> hi guys, could someone give some advice on how to get opengl working with ATI notebok graphics?
[09:24] <Seveas> liquidfire_, apt-get install funny-manpages asr-manpages
[09:25] <iiiears> paulj - i can't help with ati. maybe ubotu has something.
[09:25] <iiiears> !ati
[09:25] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:26] <paulj> thx for help
[09:26] <paulj> found that howto
[09:26] <pirast> ping
[09:27] <mneptok> ubotu: status
[09:27] <iiiears> Seveas - How does Wordpress compare to XOOPS?
[09:27] <uthini> lolol, i lost alot data in a format i didn't need (it didn't remedy the issue i thought it would)
[09:28] <Seveas> wordpress vs xoops is no contest :)
[09:28] <Seveas> wordpress wins
[09:28] <ITguy> wordpress wins
[09:28] <ITguy> ha
[09:28] <Seveas> ;)
[09:28] <kvidell> <3 wordpress
[09:28] <iiiears> okay. - grin
[09:28] <uthini> Seveas, do you know how to recover info from a drive with messed up partions?
[09:28] <Seveas> uthini, no
[09:28] <mneptok> i think XOOPS won the bikini portion of the contest.
[09:28] <raven3x7> hi
[09:29] <uthini> peachy
[09:29] <bateau> hey! im trying to install java, i added the repository list and stuff. but it says it cant finde the package :x
[09:29] <uthini> disck recovery here i come
[09:29] <ITguy> uthini: txt or binary data?
[09:29] <kvidell> Do you have any links to XOOPs blogs in active use?
[09:29] <kemik> uthini:  possibly bu getting a recoverytool . but they're expensive
[09:29] <raven3x7> anyone know if it possible to have icons with nautilus in fluxbox?
[09:29] <uthini> ITguy, ?? how?
[09:29] <ITguy> uthini: I asked which, txt or binary?
[09:29] <uthini> oh binary
[09:30] <ITguy> uthini: Thats pretty ugly, what fs type?
[09:30] <uthini> ext2
[09:30] <mneptok> get a pad, 3 pens, and an electron microscope....
[09:30] <kemik> mneptok:  MacGyver style? ;)
[09:31] <ITguy> uthini: http://www.sleuthkit.org/autopsy/desc.php is your best bet
[09:31] <mneptok> *or
[09:31] <eliphas_> what about dotclear
[09:31] <uthini> thx ITguy
[09:31] <iiiears> Helix is also nice bootable knoppix based CD
[09:31] <ITguy> uthini: I would suggest using dd to make an image of the partition with deleted data and play with that
[09:32] <kemik> damn.. need a soft-tip pen :(
[09:32] <mneptok> is that a euphemism>
[09:32] <mneptok> ?
[09:32] <iiiears> dd is good but dd_rescue understands errors better
[09:33] <ITguy> iiiears: he didn't mention drive errors I dont think so dd will work without installing extra software
[09:34] <hardw1re> !nvidia
[09:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:35] <hardw1re> what happened to that configure tutorial? :|
[09:35] <uthini> yeah speaking of, i can't install the nvidia drivers
[09:35] <uthini> still..
[09:35] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[09:36] <ITguy> rm -rf /bin/laden
[09:36] <bateau> hey! im trying to install java, i added the repository list and stuff. but it says it cant finde the package. whats wrong?
[09:36] <EnsignRedshirt> Is it possible to prevent web sites from resizing the Firefox window?
[09:36] <Seveas> bateau, grab a deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:36] <ITguy> EnsignRedshirt: Turn off javascript
[09:37] <slask3n> Doesn't anyone know how to make a microphone work in Ubuntu?? I really thought it should just be plug-and-play like the ouput-device but it doesn't work...
[09:37] <hardw1re> ITguy: very funny ;)
[09:37] <zblach> anyone know how to access an existing wireless network?
[09:37] <iiiears> Seveas - (Do you need a fan club?) - lol
[09:37] <hardw1re> slask3n: yes i have my mic working on TS on ubuntu
[09:37] <iiiears> nice
[09:37] <hardw1re> slask3n: have you configured the alsamixer?
[09:37] <EnsignRedshirt> ITguy: Is is necessarily javascript that resizes the window?
[09:38] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, yes
[09:38] <ITguy> EnsignRedshirt: javascript is the only way to resize the window
[09:38] <slask3n> hardwire: yes ive checked everything in alsamixer and it looks good.. but still gnomemeeting can't grap any audio from the mic
[09:38] <slask3n> grab*
[09:39] <hardw1re> hmmm
[09:39] <hardw1re> in terminal type alsamixer
[09:39] <hardw1re> and make sure its the correct device thats showing up
[09:39] <whyameye> unzip does not unzip my zipped archive. It unzips fine in Windows. Anything I should try?
[09:39] <hardw1re> if it is, tab across to the capture section
[09:39] <hardw1re> and then push the volume up for mic
[09:39] <Want3d> whats the command to manually install a .deb ?
[09:40] <nightswim> dpkg -i
[09:40] <hardw1re> dpkg -i
[09:40] <hardw1re> bah :P
[09:40] <slask3n> hardw1re: yes i pushed F4 and got a list of all capture dvices
[09:40] <hardw1re> and you pushed the mic volume up?
[09:40] <slask3n> yes
[09:40] <slask3n> and unmuted it
[09:40] <hardw1re> hmm....
[09:40] <linukso> Hi! What date is set for the release of breezy?
[09:40] <EnsignRedshirt> I see. Resizing is really annoying, especially when it make the window fill the screen.  Then the bottom of the window falls below Gnome's tool bar, and it is impossible (as far as I can tell) to shrink the window again.
[09:40] <hardw1re> have you pluggeed it into the correct jacksocket? :P
[09:40] <hardw1re> october
[09:40] <hardw1re> sometime
[09:41] <hardw1re> brb foodage
[09:41] <JzE> Would Ubuntu work on my old comp... Specs are CPU 200 Mhz, Memory: 80 MB and 2gb harddisk
[09:41] <slask3n> hardwire: yes, i tried the other input slot now.. but that didn't worjk either
[09:41] <zblach> anyone here know hot to connect to a wireless network?
[09:41] <zblach> **how to
[09:41] <maan84> Excuse me, anyone know a program that would unarchive *.img files?
[09:41] <zblach> maan84, never heard of .img
[09:42] <hardw1re> hmmm, and are you getting sound output slask3n?
[09:42] <hardw1re> brb
[09:42] <maan84> zblach, an DVD image file :)
[09:42] <phantom_> Anyone installed Beneath a Steel Sky???
[09:42] <slask3n> maan84: .img is a part of an cue-bin image file
[09:42] <zblach> maan84, try UltraISO
[09:42] <kemik> maan84:  you can burn it with growisofs
[09:43] <slask3n> maan84: try burn it out with gnomebaker/k3b
[09:43] <phantom_> what does it mean that there is only dat files in Synaptic Package Manager???
[09:43] <plagerism> maan84 you can mount .img files
[09:43] <zblach> how to connect to a wireless network, anyone?
[09:43] <plagerism> and then burn em with growisofs
[09:43] <maan84> Thank you, I tried k3b to burn it and it worked fine, though now I want to unarchive the img file to my hd :)
[09:43] <slask3n> plagerism: can you mount imagefiles without using any tools like cdemu in linux?
[09:44] <maan84> plagerism, how do I mount it? :)
[09:44] <plagerism> maan84 you can mount it.  mount -o loop *.img temp
[09:44] <kemik> maan84:  you dont unarchive it, you mount it ;)
[09:44] <maan84> All right, thank you I'll try that :)
[09:44] <kemik> temp is the mountpoint
[09:44] <plagerism> maan84 you have to mount it as root though
[09:44] <slask3n> hardw1re: yes, the sound output are alright i just pluggged it in and it worked.. i bought a mic today but that doesnt work
[09:44] <plagerism> maan84 sudo
[09:44] <maan84> plagerism, I can try sudo mount -o loog *.img temp ?
[09:44] <kemik> slask3n:  .img isnt part of a cue-bin setup
[09:45] <kemik> maan84:  no
[09:45] <plagerism> well maan84 first you have to make the directory temp, and replace *.img with your image file
[09:45] <kemik> maan84:  "sudo mount -o loop filename.img /path/to/mountdirectory"
[09:45] <slask3n> kemik: ok, im sorry, I was thinking of the CloneCD image .ccd
[09:45] <T-One> I'm getting an authentication error using packages from multiverse
[09:46] <maan84> Ok hmm :) So for example it can be sudo mount -o loop filename.img /home/maan84/temp/ ?
[09:46] <phreakys> hi
[09:46] <zblach> hi
[09:46] <phreakys> sup?
[09:47] <Want3d> anyone running Breezy and having any issues?
[09:47] <Seveas>  <-- sup(erscript)
[09:47] <slask3n> hardwire: i just need to reboot.. ill be right back
[09:47] <kemik> maan84:  yes
[09:48] <kemik> crap.. md5sum checks out, but still i get "CRC Error" when booting the vector linux cd.. :/
[09:48] <maan84> kemik, plagerism : Ok I'll try it, thanks for the help
[09:48] <zblach> kemik, CRC error b/c you're burning too fast maybe?
[09:49] <hardw1re> back
[09:49] <kemik> zblach:  must be.. gotta tune down to 8x
[09:49] <GeoffDeGeoff> Question: I can no longer play wmv files, it has suddenly stopped working, I have all the relevant files installed. codes etc. Anyone any ideas?
[09:49] <zblach> kemik, had same error when i burned at 48x, turned it down to 12x, and it worked. Then i got a real cd
[09:50] <zblach> anyone here know anything of iwlist?
[09:51] <kemik> zblach:  oh crap, come to think of it it says 1-12x on the darn things
[09:51] <hardw1re> Want3d: i was running breezy, had to many issues for my liking so i've gone back to hoary for the time being
[09:51] <hardw1re> welcome back slask3n
[09:51] <tristanmike> i live with savages
[09:51] <Want3d> what kind of issues?
[09:51] <Nate> Hi can someone help me encode a wav into an MP3 with LAME?
[09:51] <zblach> kemik, lol. happens to all of us
[09:51] <Want3d> i havent had a single one
[09:51] <hardw1re> webcam, cant remember what else
[09:52] <bigmouth000> anyone have time to help a noob with cable modem problems ?
[09:52] <zblach> bigmouth000, sure
[09:53] <afaik> hey, how can you run a command from the console and ensure it is the
[09:53] <kemik> zblach:  yea, but it usually happens later at night, its only 22pm ! :)
[09:53] <kemik> afaik:   is the ?
[09:53] <zblach> kemik, 22pm = 10am?
[09:54] <tristanmike> 22:00 = 10pm
[09:54] <DragonFighter> Why isn't Ubuntuguide in the channel header?
[09:54] <DragonFighter> I found it very informative
[09:54] <zblach> tristanmike, kemik: its only 22pm! :)
[09:54] <factorx> about shellscripting: how can I put the return value of a command into a variable? i.e. number=who | wc -l doesnt work
[09:54] <yaru22> If I want to start off the computer at command mode, should I change id:2:initdefault: to id:N:initdefault: in /etc/inittab file?
[09:54] <darkheart> !ubuntuguide
[09:54] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[09:54] <DragonFighter> url is: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[09:54] <ray> how do i make a startup script
[09:55] <uthini> ITguy, that autopsy wants images of the disk
[09:55] <Fredde> Do I have to change anything to start the live cd?
[09:55] <ITguy> uthini: Yes, use dd and make an image
[09:55] <uthini> mkay
[09:55] <tristanmike> DragonFighter, if you think about it, at the top it says "Unofficial", that's not a joke
[09:56] <yaru22> If I want to start off the computer at command mode, should I change id:2:initdefault: to id:N:initdefault: in /etc/inittab file?
[09:56] <rob_p> rayde:  Copy one of the less complex ones from the /etc/init.d directory and then modify it for your purposes.  That's the easiest way.
[09:56] <DragonFighter> tristanmike: I know/knew about that but still if I need a quicky way of doing something the guide works for me.
[09:56] <yaru22> for redhat linux it was id:5:initdefault for x-window and id:3:initdefault for command line ; but dunno for ubuntu
[09:56] <rob_p> rayde:  oops!  wrong nick!!!
[09:57] <ITguy> yaru22: Ubuntu is debain based and doesnt use the concept of different runlevels
[09:57] <uthini> ITguy, e.g.? dd /dev/myDrive /myImage?
[09:57] <ITguy> *debian
[09:57] <rob_p> rayde:  Copy one of the less complex ones from the /etc/init.d directory and then modify it for your purposes.  That's the easiest way.
[09:57] <tristanmike> DragonFighter, it has NO instructions on how to use any of the commands, and for new people, it is the wrong way, the wiki is much better
[09:57] <DragonFighter> tristanmike: ok
[09:57] <rob_p> rayde:  ok then... rayde :-)
[09:57] <tristanmike> DragonFighter, plus the wiki everyone can contribute too :)
[09:57] <Dreamer3> ok
[09:58] <ITguy> uthini: input file and output file, 'dd if=/dev/myDrive of=/myImage'
[09:58] <ITguy> That might take awhile
[09:58] <Dreamer3> anyone know how to change the X DPI or whatever without restarting X?
[09:58] <Dreamer3> i switched from 1280x1024 to 1024x768 and now all my fonts are tiny
[09:58] <DragonFighter> uthini: someone in this channel once told me that dd is, how do you call it, when something is old and new better methods exists.
[09:58] <ITguy> Dreamer3: Ever try making your fonts bigger?
[09:58] <uthini> ITguy, for $3000 worth of data, i have the time
[09:58] <kemik> zblach:  oh christ.. im really confused.. i meant 10pm or 2200.. i managed to mess that up too ;)
[09:59] <ITguy> uthini: What got blasted?
[09:59] <darkheart> DragonFighter deprecated? obsolete?
[09:59] <Dreamer3> ITguy: well... ok... that's works for now... but then i guess i make them smaller when i switch back up?
[09:59] <DragonFighter> darkheart: deprecated
[09:59] <uthini> ITguy, 8 months worth of work
[09:59] <Nate> Would anybody please take time to give me some instructions on how to convert a WAV to MP3 file using lame?
[09:59] <ITguy> Ouch!
[10:00] <Dreamer3> ITguy: changing the default font in XFCE's config helped a lot... thanks for that no-brainer :)
[10:00] <dave> hello. windows broke. can i burn dvds from ubuntu?
[10:00] <zblach> dave, yes
[10:00] <ITguy> uthini: Take a look at this from now on. It works like a charm for personal desktops: http://www.mondorescue.org/
[10:00] <dave> with the default setup?
[10:00] <Dreamer3> ITguy: of course it hasn't changed ALL my fonts, just most of them... that's why i actually wanted to change the DPI, etc
[10:00] <ITguy> Dreamer3: np
[10:00] <DragonFighter> Dave gnomefiles has some options that you should also find in universe.
[10:01] <DragonFighter> universe repo that is.
[10:01] <dave> ok, sounds good. is there some ubuntu documentation i should be reading?
[10:01] <GeoffDeGeoff> Question: I can no longer play wmv files, it has suddenly stopped working, I have all the relevant files installed. codes etc. Anyone any ideas?
[10:03] <zblach> _anyone_ know wireless networking?
[10:03] <DragonFighter> dave: look at this list http://www.gnomefiles.com/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=103 and then look for the program you want in the repo's
[10:03] <dave> see, i dont even know what repos are :) i dont see anything on the ubuntu site about how to use them
[10:04] <raven3x7> !tell dave about repos
[10:04] <Nate> is there a LAME GUI?
[10:04] <ITguy> If your wireless card isn't officially supported its a pain. Ndiswrapper isn't very fun to set up
[10:04] <DragonFighter> dave: use that program, I don't remember its name, to download files or that you use to update ubuntu
[10:04] <uthini> thx ITguy, if this work's i'll consider getting u a mail-order bride
[10:04] <dave> this irc client isn't able to view private messages
[10:04] <ITguy> uthini: Could you get a german one?
[10:05] <raven3x7> dave if you're using xchat sure it is
[10:05] <Amairgon> 'lo ppl
[10:05] <Fredde> How do I start the live cd?
[10:05] <Fredde> Do I just put it in and reboot?
[10:05] <zblach> fredde, put cd in, reboot computer
[10:05] <Nate> Yeo
[10:05] <dave> i didnt say i was using xchat.
[10:05] <Fredde> Ok
[10:05] <lllmanulll> Fredde, Yes, exactly
[10:05] <zblach> sheesh
[10:05] <uthini> ITguy, i know some namibian ladies that speak german :P
[10:05] <bigmouth000> Anyone have any idea on where you can get drivers for Huawei modems ?
[10:05] <raven3x7> dave i was just guessing
[10:05] <ITguy> uthini: They make you do computer forensice as part of the SANS GSEC training. All you are doing is routine forensics
[10:05] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[10:06] <raven3x7> !repos
[10:06] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:06] <ITguy> uthini: Sure, send them my way
[10:06] <dave> apparently i already have dvdrwrtools installed. now i just need to figure out how to use it.
[10:06] <zblach> bigmouth000, www.huawei.com.cn
[10:06] <Amairgon> *sigh*
[10:06] <Spudchat> i just downloaded a file to the desktop but i cant see it...but when i cd to Desktop and ls there it is
[10:06] <uthini> lol ITguy :)
[10:06] <Spudchat> any ideas?
[10:06] <muffin_> help! my gain disconnects the whole time. is there an alternative?
[10:06] <ITguy> dave: growisofs from the command line. gnomebaker 0.4 for a gui
[10:06] <aeolist> say, has anybody got the num lock button going through numlockx and the stuff described in www.ubuntuguide.com?
[10:07] <muffin_> i mean gaim
[10:07] <dave> where do i get this gnomebaker?
[10:07] <nalioth_zZz> aeolist: be carefuel with stuff from ubuntuguide
[10:07] <muffin_> !esd#
[10:07] <ubotu> muffin_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:07] <muffin_> !esd
[10:07] <ubotu> I guess esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[10:08] <iiiears> dave - you can use synaptic package manager or apt-get gnomebaker
[10:08] <zblach> dave, gnomebaker is a standard package with gnomebutcher and gnomecandlestickmaker
[10:08] <aeolist> why is that nalioth ?
[10:08] <ITguy> no
[10:08] <ITguy> The ubuntu repos have gnomebaker 0.3
[10:08] <uthini> ITguy, do u know if linux kernel supports 7VM400AM-RZ series amd mobo's yet?
[10:09] <DragonFighter> dave: follow the instruction that ubuto send: ubotu: repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 To add the multiverse repo.
[10:09] <rebug> aside from the fact that linksys makes crap hardware, is there any reason for me not to buy a wmp54g pci card for an ubuntu box?
[10:09] <eliphas_> how to lanchu beneath a steel sky?
[10:09] <zone17> Hi, how do I force xorg to run at 85Hz? The v and h freq are set right. I can't get it higher than 70, but on windows it can run at 100hz
[10:09] <raven3x7> muffin_, i believe ther is one called everybody and ther is also the kde IM kopete
[10:09] <ITguy> 0.4 has dvd support. I know because I'm the one that emailed the gnomebaker devs requesting it
[10:09] <zblach> rebug, i have taht card
[10:09] <ITguy> uthini: not a clue
[10:09] <zblach> rebug, and it DOESN'T WORK
[10:09] <raven3x7> muffin_, everybuddie that is
[10:10] <zblach> rebug, oh, and thats a router, not a card
[10:10] <dave> what is there a link that will tell mewhat repositories are?
[10:10] <DragonFighter> I see that Ubuntu is the most popular distro over the whole last year: http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity
[10:10] <Seveas> !repos
[10:10] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:10] <raven3x7> !repos
[10:10] <muffin_> raven3x7, thx
[10:10] <Seveas> too late ;)
[10:10] <Spudchat> ok so i made another copy but how do i delete the old one?
[10:10] <raven3x7> im slow :p
[10:10] <rebug> zblach: it's a pci adapter....
[10:10] <dave> ok, this site doesnt tell me anything at all.
[10:10] <dave> i do not know what a multiverse is
[10:10] <husher> is there a .torrent of breezy colony 3?
[10:11] <zblach> rebug, ? my linksys router: WRT54G. my card: WMP11V27
[10:11] <Seveas> dave, read the seconl link...
[10:12] <rebug> zblach: http://tinyurl.com/dx5rt
[10:12] <dave> that has nothing to do with what i just says
[10:12] <Spudchat> whats the command to delete from the terminal?
[10:12] <dave> said*.
[10:12] <dave> delete? rm
[10:12] <muffin_> how can i install a newer gaim version than on ubuntu servers??
[10:13] <Spudchat> thanks
[10:13] <fl> hi all. good evening.
[10:13] <dave> hello there.
[10:13] <Seveas> muffin_, grab one from the backports
[10:13] <dave> this is extremely frustrating, isn't there some ridiculously easy GUI program i can use?
[10:13] <gnonthgol> you can download the gaim and install it with alian
[10:13] <zblach> rebug, i said WRT, now WMP
[10:13] <dave> to burn dvds
[10:13] <bigmouth000> need drivers for a huawei modem ...
[10:13] <muffin_> Seveas: is it newer than 1.1.4??
[10:14] <uthini> wow bigmouth000, u can get a c compiler and start typing
[10:14] <rebug> zblach: exactly...i'm asking if anyone has experience with the wmp54g. i've got one "does not work" so far, which is damning enough i suppose
[10:14] <Spudchat> allright everyone thanks
[10:14] <raven3x7> dave its a part of a repository. a repository is a server that contains programs for installation. it is split i varius categories (base(the ubuntu base system), universe(additional programs maintained by volunteers, multiverse whic includse closed source apps, etc..)
[10:14] <Seveas> muffin_, wouldn't know...
[10:15] <raven3x7> dave synaptic
[10:15] <chrismy> to all....how could i customise my own 404, 500, etc page?
[10:15] <iiiears> raven3x7 - applauds!
[10:15] <dave> ok. so i add these repositories, then i can download programs, yes?
[10:15] <bigmouth000> @uthini ... VERY helpful
[10:15] <raven3x7> dave k3b , gnomebaker, xcdroast
[10:15] <chrismy> which config file do i do the errordocument?
[10:16] <aeolist> can somebody tell me why i shouldnt trust ubuntuguide, as nalioth suggested?
[10:16] <lJlolel> what is a good pop daemon?
[10:16] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[10:16] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[10:16] <Seveas> chrismy, .htaccess in your web root folder
[10:16] <dave> raven3x7: gnomebaker doesnt seem to exist according to synaptic
[10:16] <zblach> ubuntuguide is fine, if you just want to do something. i.e. soundserver
[10:17] <chrismy> Seveas, ok i will try again(yes again)
[10:17] <Seveas> zblach, that part of the guide is exceptionally crackful
[10:17] <KillerSmurf> hello all.  Can anyone tell me why kanotix has overclocking with the nvidia settings on a 6600GT but not the ubuntu version.  Or am I mistaken?
[10:17] <aeolist> ok then
[10:18] <raven3x7> dave you need to enable multiverse then. and you only need to do this once. follow the instructions in the webpage about adding repositories.
[10:18] <iiiears> dave - under synaptic settings add a repository "universe community supported" -  refresh sources. gnomebaker will be there. :)
[10:19] <uthini> baah
[10:19] <uthini> now i can't install cedega cos i'm installing mondo
[10:20] <raven3x7> eh universe then... :o
[10:20] <iiiears> SRS-ROX - Welcome to Ubuntu. - ads to songs aren't fashionable here please turn them off. ;)
[10:21] <damsko> :~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i f4l_0.2-1_i386.deb
[10:21] <damsko> Selecting previously deselected package f4l.
[10:21] <damsko> (Reading database ... 72236 files and directories currently installed.)
[10:21] <damsko> Unpacking f4l (from f4l_0.2-1_i386.deb) ...
[10:21] <damsko> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of f4l:
[10:21] <damsko>  f4l depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:
[10:21] <damsko>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14.
[10:21] <damsko>  f4l depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.0-9); however:
[10:21] <damsko>   Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.0.0-7ubuntu6~5.04ubp1.
[10:21] <damsko>  f4l depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however:
[10:21] <damsko>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[10:21] <damsko>  f4l depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4-3); however:
[10:21] <raven3x7> damsko no pasting
[10:21] <damsko>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[10:21] <damsko>  f4l depends on libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0); however:
[10:21] <damsko>   Version of libfontconfig1 on system is 2.2.3-4ubuntu7.
[10:21] <damsko>  f4l depends on libxrender1 (>= 1:0.9.0-2); however:
[10:21] <muffin_> how do i install a "gaim-1.5.0.x86.package" ?
[10:21] <raven3x7> use pastebin
[10:21] <damsko>   Version of libxrender1 on system is 0.9.0-0ubuntu4.
[10:21] <damsko>  f4l depends on libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8-3); however:
[10:21] <damsko>   Version of libexpat1 on system is 1.95.8-1.
[10:21] <damsko> dpkg: error processing f4l (--install):
[10:21] <damsko>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:21] <tristanmike> STOP!
[10:21] <damsko> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:22] <damsko>  f4l
[10:22] <CookedGryphon> i don't think damsko 's listening
[10:22] <damsko> someone knows what i have to do?
[10:22] <damsko> sorry
[10:22] <iiiears> ubotu tell damsko about flood
[10:22] <muffin_> damsko: go to #flood
[10:22] <gnonthgol> muffin: download the package and install it with alien -i
[10:22] <muffin_> gnonthgol thx
[10:22] <raven3x7> damsko you got backports enabled?
[10:22] <tristanmike> !ubotu tell damsko about pastebin
[10:23] <KillerSmurf> ! nvidia settings
[10:23] <ubotu> KillerSmurf: Are you smoking crack?
[10:23] <KillerSmurf> !nvidia settings
[10:23] <ubotu> KillerSmurf: Wish i knew
[10:23] <KillerSmurf> !nvidia-settings
[10:23] <ubotu> KillerSmurf: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:23] <KillerSmurf> !nvidia
[10:23] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[10:23] <iiiears> nvidia-glx?
[10:23] <dave> can i mount my windows drive as a user?
[10:23] <KillerSmurf> no.... I've got the bin drivers installed
[10:23] <mjr> dave, yes, if you have the "user" option in fstab for it
[10:24] <fl> it's so much nicer once I squelch ubotu...
[10:24] <raven3x7> dave sure although ntfs is read only
[10:24] <iiiears> dave - Seveas was nice enough to write winmac_fstab a script to do that automatically.
[10:24] <iiiears> !ntfs
[10:24] <Xenguy> fl: or /ignore those who engage in bot abuse :p
[10:24] <dave> thats fine, i just need to back up ntfs stuff.
[10:24] <KillerSmurf> iiiears I'm tring to figure how kubuntu got o/c into the nvidia settings of there pacage
[10:24] <ITguy> raven3x7: CaptiveNTFS is full rw support for NTFS. It takes a few seconds to mount, but works perfectly
[10:24] <w1ng> hzi
[10:24] <KillerSmurf> not kubuntu kanotix
[10:24] <dave> or, could i just run gnomebaker as root? that sounds easier.
[10:24] <fl> Xenguy, yeah, but that's a moving target.
[10:24] <w1ng> hi again
[10:24] <tristanmike> oh, did Seveas write that? Awesome thanx Seveas.
[10:25] <Xenguy> fl: true, but they deserve it =)
[10:25] <iiiears> Killer, - good question
[10:25] <Viziri> anyone here use speedtouch adsl modem by any chance?
[10:25] <dave> is it safe to run sudo gnomebaker ?
[10:25] <gnonthgol> Viziri: I do
[10:25] <dave> am i missing any repercussions here
[10:25] <chrismy> Seveas, ErrorDocument 404 "hello" is that ok?
[10:25] <raven3x7> ITguy, yeah but ubuntu doesnt have captive(at least not by default) is there a package?
[10:25] <iiiears> dave absolutely
[10:25] <ITguy> RW NTFS supprot: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[10:25] <KillerSmurf> I like kanotix but I'm back to ubuntu.  The scripts they had were great but I wasn't learning anything
[10:26] <fl> Xenguy, yeah, but even if they deserve it, I have not yet heard of "adaptive auto-ignoring". I can't just ignore everyone who uses ubotu
[10:26] <Seveas> ITguy, did you get that to work on Ubuntu?
[10:26] <w1ng> does some1 know a good dyndns updater for linux?
[10:26] <Viziri> cool gnonthgol  - i was wondering if you know of easy to follow guide in making the modem work with ubuntu?
[10:26] <damsko> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1619
[10:26] <iiiears> ITguy - linux ntfs support is a bit sketchy and prone to heartbreak.
[10:26] <damsko> :D
[10:26] <dave> iiiears: some other guy just said it was perfect...
[10:26] <hundge> hi all
[10:26] <KillerSmurf> has anyone gotten penginTV working on hoary?
[10:26] <gnonthgol> Viziri: Just google it
[10:27] <dave> oh, ITguy sa id it
[10:27] <dave> well then.
[10:27] <w1ng> does some1 know a good dyndns updater for linux?
[10:27] <iiiears> dave - I'll cross my fingers and think good thoughts for you.
[10:27] <ITguy> iiiears: Captive uses the windows kernel, parts of reactos, and parts of wine for perfect rntfs
[10:27] <raven3x7> i know captive but building from source is to risky for me
[10:27] <KillerSmurf> kdm or gdm what should I use?
[10:27] <ITguy> Seveas: Yes it works fine
[10:27] <NoUse> w1ng apt-cache search dyndn
[10:27] <NoUse> dyndns*
[10:27] <Seveas> ITguy, hmm, never worked for me
[10:27] <kemik> KillerSmurf:  running KDE or Gnome? ;)
[10:27] <Seveas> how did you get it to work?
[10:27] <ITguy> Knoppix has had captive working for a year now
[10:27] <dave> reactos, when is that happening
[10:27] <damsko> can someone help me? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1619
[10:27] <Nate> I'm getting upset with Grip
[10:27] <ITguy> Seveas: followed the directions XD
[10:27] <Seveas> ITguy, which means it's obsolete and about to stop working...
[10:28] <hundge> I have a problem with my ipod and rhythmbox : the program crashes as soon as the device is connected ? I have looked the forums and didn't find a similar issue ?
[10:28] <KillerSmurf> kemik still up for debate.  depends if I can get digicam up for gnome
[10:28] <Seveas> ITguy, which ones?
[10:28] <gnonthgol> Rythembox suxs
[10:28] <iiiears> ITguy - if you can find the driver sysinternals sold for a bit before being sued you would have something.
[10:28] <w1ng> NoUse, this doesn't return results
[10:28] <muffin_> !multiverse
[10:28] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[10:28] <muffin_> !repositories
[10:28] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:28] <fl> should the Breezy Colony 3 i386 automatically recognize SMP and install the -smp kernel? I did not do that on my machine :-(
[10:28] <Nate> I'll rip a song, and I can find it in /home/nate/mp3/artist/ and AS its being ripped, but when its done ripping it dissapears and is no where to be found, I tried using filesearch, everything
[10:28] <LinuxJones> gnonthgol, why's that ?
[10:28] <qatsi> hello all !...im having some issues with the sounds in ubuntu , i can payback audio but i dont have any sound...:p
[10:28] <NoUse> ^-- w1ng - add those repostitories
[10:29] <Nate> but its no where to be found
[10:29] <w1ng> okay
[10:29] <KillerSmurf> qatsi ... is alsa unmuted?
[10:29] <ITguy> Seveas: Since FUSE got put in mainline, LUFS  development died.
[10:29] <qatsi> KillerSmurf: uhmm, checked the sound volumes and they are ok....
[10:29] <damsko> can someone help me? ---http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1619
[10:29] <raven3x7> damsko you got any unusual repos enabled (backports, etc..)
[10:29] <dave> ?
[10:29] <iiiears> ubotu ntfs is also Very nice script Seveas. - Thank You.
[10:29] <damsko> ok
[10:29] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[10:29] <gnonthgol> Rythembox cant play half the media types and are just causing bugs
[10:29] <dave> why doesnt this 695mb file fit on the 700mb disc>??!
[10:29] <ITguy> Seveas: the LUFS -> FUSE bridge does work for me
[10:30] <damsko> how do i fix them?
[10:30] <Seveas> iiiears, don't do that...
[10:30] <NoUse> damsko is that a deb meant for debian?
[10:30] <damsko> yes
[10:30] <dave> with gnomebaker, it says my 695mb file wont fit on a cd
[10:30] <NoUse> damsko it might not work with ubuntu
[10:31] <Seveas> !no, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[10:31] <hundge> is muine worth a try ?
[10:32] <damsko> :(
[10:32] <damsko> ok
[10:32] <ITguy> Seveas: is that to teach the bot?
[10:32] <Seveas> ITguy, yes
[10:32] <ITguy> nice
[10:32] <Fredde> The live cd is great :)
[10:32] <zevets> hi, I am trying to set it so that the GUI will not automatically start
[10:32] <sprowder> wow - my ubuntu is working... *ll
[10:32] <Nate> Please, can someone help me with Grip?
[10:32] <zevets> I tried setting it to runlevel 3
[10:33] <zevets> but it isn't working
[10:33] <iiiears> Seveas - Aw. - You wrote a very helpful script.
[10:33] <Seveas> iiiears, but that should not be blatantly spammed in the factoid
[10:34] <zevets> hi, I am trying to set it so that the GUI will not automatically start, I set it to run level 3, but it isn't staying that way
[10:34] <gnonthgol> zevets: prevent X from starting from the script in init.d
[10:34] <iiiears> Okay. - Just know i'll thank you then.
[10:34] <ITguy> zevets: Try searching the forums before asking here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6460 It  took me 10 seconds to find it
[10:34] <iiiears> ;)
[10:34] <one2> whats the best most secure local mail delivery app i have postfix running now
[10:34] <one2> ?
[10:34] <ITguy> postfix
[10:34] <nalioth> anyone know of any ubuntu project rss/xml feeds?
[10:34] <hubsi> how do i set a var @ bashscript?
[10:34] <Seveas> nalioth, planet.ubuntu.com
[10:35] <zevets> I saw that guy, but it doesn't make any sense to me
[10:35] <Seveas> nalioth, www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/hoary.xml
[10:35] <one2> dude this distro is go'in places
[10:35] <Seveas> (and warty.xml and breezy.xml and usn.xml)
[10:35] <one2> :}
[10:35] <iiiears> Seveas - Fan club now forming. - lol
[10:35] <muffin_> is there a repository search engine?
[10:36] <Seveas> muffin_, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <dave> does it matter whether i finalise my dvd or not?
[10:36] <zevets> hi, I am trying to set it so that the GUI will not automatically start, I set it to run level 3, but it isn't staying that way, I saw the thingy in the forums, but it doesn't make any sense to me
[10:37] <husher> is there a way on only install one package from the dev repositories and leave the rest alone?
[10:37] <gnonthgol> zevets: try prevent X to start
[10:38] <nalioth> ty seveas
[10:38] <dave> hello, in order to use gnomebaker, do i need to mount my cdrom first?
[10:38] <raven3x7> dave are you using gnmoe?
[10:38] <dave> i think so.
[10:39] <zevets> I don't understand what it wonts me to do
[10:39] <dave> zevets: tell us the part you don't understand.
[10:39] <zevets> all of it
[10:39] <zevets> im a noob
[10:39] <raven3x7> gnome automounts cds. but you should enable dma if that is supported by your drive(most probably)
[10:40] <raven3x7> !dma
[10:40] <dave> raven3x7: crap, i forgot all about DMA. is it any easier to do in linux?
[10:40] <dave> it's almost impossible in windows
[10:40] <jchico> is the java package broken for apt-get at the moment?
[10:40] <Belutz> finally i installed the latest ATI drivers!!! lol :D
[10:40] <dave> i would really like to burn this DVD.
[10:41] <\dev\goat> Belutz, they rule, don't they ^_^
[10:41] <dave> is there like a DVD burning distro i could get? rofl
[10:41] <Belutz> \dev\goat: yup... :)
[10:41] <iiiears> !dma
[10:41] <dave> that's not doing anything
[10:41] <raven3x7> type sudo hpdarm -d1 /dev/hd? replace ? with the approprite number
[10:41] <iiiears> ubotu tell dave dma
[10:41] <Belutz> dave: use hdparm
[10:41] <gnonthgol> zevets: if you (re)move a file called Xfree-common or simmelar in /etc/init.d X dont start and you got no gui, but why dont you just install the light version
[10:42] <dave> oh gee. why didnt i think of that!
[10:42] <dave> forget it, this is a waste of time.
[10:42] <zevets> I want a GUI
[10:42] <Belutz> lol
[10:42] <fl> dave, what is a waste of time? asking questions? :-)
[10:42] <zevets> but some of the stuff I need to do
[10:42] <iiiears> thanks dave - ;)
[10:43] <zevets> requires that it is down for part of the time
[10:43] <dave> pretty much. why should i need to ask how to burn a dvd?!
[10:43] <muffin_> where is the cedega config file?
[10:43] <zevets> and even when I ctrl alt backspace
[10:43] <zevets> it comes back up
[10:43] <Seveas> zevets, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:43] <zevets> I want it to boot to command line
[10:43] <Belutz> dave: don't forget the lighter.... j/k :D
[10:43] <dave> haha
[10:43] <fl> you could just use xcdroast, or k3b, or gnoe-whatever...
[10:44] <crube> What do I need to play WMV files?
[10:44] <Seveas> zevets, update-rc.d gdm start 3 4 5 . stop 0 1 2 6 .
[10:44] <dave> can i use k3b in gnome?
[10:44] <Belutz> i use nerolinux, it's great
[10:44] <raven3x7> dave yes
[10:44] <fl> sure. (it just loads all the KDE libs in the background)
[10:44] <dave> what is the hdparm command to check DMA?
[10:44] <gnonthgol> zevets: # sudo /etc/init.d/xfree86-common start to start and stop to stop
[10:45] <fl> man hdparm?
[10:45] <dave> nevermind, i found it.
[10:45] <dave> using dma, on.
[10:45] <fl> DMA isn't always useful. e.g., I use a USB DVD burner, which works just fine, but DMA does not apply here...
[10:46] <fl> just to stuff that's attached to your IDE bus
[10:46] <raven3x7> well dma is ussually needed fior eide devices
[10:46] <dave> indeed, i know.
[10:46] <fl> dave, nice, then I don't have to explain :-)
[10:47] <zevets> I am very confused
[10:47] <zevets> what do I do gnonthgol
[10:47] <zevets> I do not have a file xfree86-common
[10:47] <robotgeek> zevets: do u not want kdm/gdm to start up?
[10:47] <dave> this is very difficult. more difficult than it should be.
[10:47] <zevets> no
[10:47] <zevets> I want to boot to command line
[10:47] <zevets> and then type startx
[10:48] <zevets> then I get it
[10:48] <gnonthgol> zevets: but if you move the file #sudo cp /etc/init.d/xfree86-common /etc/ X would not start when the computer starts
[10:48] <one2> i want hardened kernel are there any provided by ubuntu or debian preferably with the grsecurity patches
[10:48] <zevets> ok
[10:48] <zevets> I do not have that file
[10:48] <dave> hopefully k3b does better than gnomebaker.
[10:48] <muffin_> where is the cedega config file?
[10:48] <gnonthgol> zevets: find a simmelar file
[10:48] <dave> although, i think it is because i am running the program as root that i am getting the error.
[10:48] <robotgeek> zevets: do this, "cd /etc/init.d/
[10:48] <zevets> done
[10:48] <dave> shouldn't root be able to access the cdrom drive?
[10:48] <Oewyn> Can anyone help me with a wireless card problem, ubuntu detected my card correctly, but it's not listed in network tools when i try to activate it.  I've tried using ndiswrapper with the drivers that came on a CD, but that didn't work either...
[10:49] <paganini> Hi all
[10:49] <gnonthgol> zevets: # ls
[10:49] <raven3x7> dave i would say k3b is the easiest to use burner for linux
[10:49] <mpn> Greetings. Is there any way to restart X so that the changes I made in xorgcfg come into effect?
[10:49] <zevets> k
[10:49] <mpn> Also, I'm on a LiveCD.
[10:49] <dave> i'm sure it's easy to use, but that's not the issue.
[10:49] <raven3x7> dave if its mounted
[10:49] <zevets> I have x org common
[10:49] <kemik> i find NeroLinux very nice
[10:49] <zevets> thats it
[10:49] <dave> i do not know if it is mounted.
[10:49] <Kyral> mpn, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[10:49] <robotgeek> zevets: do u have gdm or kdm?
[10:49] <Kyral> ...
[10:49] <tristanmike> i hear NeroLinux isn't very good, plus its proprietary
[10:49] <Kyral> I didn't mean RIGHT now
[10:50] <zevets> I think I am using gdm
[10:50] <zevets> pretty sure
[10:50] <robotgeek> Kyral: lol
[10:50] <zevets> its gnome
[10:50] <monkey89> has anyone gotten nvidia binary to work with breezy recently, the debian way?
[10:50] <marcin> hi
[10:50] <dave> i don't see any cdrom in the mount list.
[10:50] <rober90> aanybody using vmware?
[10:50] <robotgeek> zevets: do "sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove"
[10:50] <paganini> I've got a SmartLink modem I'm trying to install drivers for. The Unofficial Ubuntu Starter Guide mentions that the output of uname -r needs to be 2.6.10-5-386 for these drivers to work
[10:50] <kemik> tristanmike:  well, burning cue/bin and .iso etc etc ..
[10:50] <paganini> I have a celeron processor in my machine, so I'm using the 2.6.10-5-686 headers and image. Will that screw thigns up?
[10:50] <paganini> Do I have to downgrade?
[10:50] <marcin> can anyone tell me if ubuntu supprots Sagem Fast 800 modem (sorry form my english:>)
[10:50] <zevets> I still want to use gnome
[10:50] <raven3x7> i think NeroLinux at this point doesnt add anything that is not in other burning apps
[10:51] <zevets> I just don't want it to boot
[10:51] <tristanmike> kemik, oh yeah, that's ok then, just no dvd or data?
[10:51] <Kyral> K3b > NeroLinux
[10:51] <volvoguy> hey all. does anyone know where the vesa-fb module gets loaded so i can make it stop?
[10:51] <robotgeek> zevets: yeah, no problem with that..
[10:51] <Kyral> paganini, I don't think so...
[10:51] <raven3x7> dave does it show a disk on your desktop?
[10:51] <Kyral> if it boots its good :P
[10:51] <zevets> done
[10:51] <zevets> ctrl alt backspace?
[10:51] <paganini> Kyral, cool. I was hoping.
[10:51] <dave> i dunno
[10:51] <paganini> :)
[10:51] <kemik> tristanmike:  burns dvd and data fine aswell
[10:51] <dave> yes, it does.
[10:52] <robotgeek> zevets: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:52] <dave> it shows the disc on my desktop. but the device is not in the mount list.
[10:52] <raven3x7> double click it
[10:52] <Kyral> ubotu ctrlaltbackspace restarts X
[10:52] <ubotu> Kyral: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:52] <Kyral> tell ubotu ctrlaltbackspace restarts X
[10:52] <kdibble> which package do I need to install to get mp3 support in rhythmbox?
[10:52] <raven3x7> dave you mean fstab?
[10:52] <tristanmike> kemik, not that i've used it, what's the major difference?
[10:52] <Kyral> !mp3
[10:52] <ubotu> well, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:52] <dave> no. i mean the mount command output...
[10:52] <raven3x7> kdibble, gstreamer-mad
[10:53] <sn0n> hey kids..
[10:53] <gnonthgol> zevets: all files in /etc/init.d will start at boot, if you can remove the files that starts the gui
[10:53] <Kyral> ubotu tell kdibble about mp3
[10:53] <dave> anyway, the preferences of gnomebaker actually sees my drive, NEC 3500.
[10:53] <kemik> tristanmike:  difference from what?  ;)
[10:53] <tristanmike> kemik, from the windows version?
[10:53] <dave> i dont see why i shouldnt be able to access it
[10:53] <kdibble> rave3x7: thank you
[10:53] <robotgeek> gnonthgol: he left, i guess X shutdown!
[10:53] <gnonthgol> lol
[10:53] <bimberi> yes, stopping gdm kills X
[10:54] <dave> this truly confuses me.
[10:54] <rober90> anybody using vmware or similar?
[10:54] <kemik> tristanmike:  i didnt use nero that much in windows for the last year or so... mostly used DVD Decrypter
[10:54] <tristanmike> kemik, ahh, ok, thanx for the info :)
[10:54] <kemik> tristanmike:  but the GUI i'd say is very diff...
[10:54] <raven3x7> dave the cdrom should be liste as /dev/hd? in your mount list
[10:54] <raven3x7> listed
[10:55] <Oewyn> can anyone help me out with a wireless problem?
[10:55] <tristanmike> kemik, no doubt, maybe I'll check it out, does my windows serial work?
[10:55] <dave> i assure you it is not there.
[10:55] <selinium> Is bluetooth supposed to be so difficult?
[10:55] <kemik> tristanmike:  im not sure, i'm runing "demo version" it'll expire 31/8
[10:55] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: I can try
[10:56] <tristanmike> kemik, lol, ok thanx again
[10:56] <selinium> Trying to connect 2 different phones and still having no joy
[10:56] <fl> woah, Google maps is *soo* cool.
[10:56] <raven3x7> then type mount /dev/hd? to mount it although thats strange that you would have to do that
[10:56] <fl> Next thing I want from you is LatLon in you IRC whois :-)
[10:56] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: it detects my wireless card all right, as marvell g6800 (or something similar would have to reboot to check) but i don't see it on network tools, and ifup wlan0 does nothing... it's like it's there,detected and installed, but not working.
[10:57] <dave> mount /dev/hdc ?
[10:57] <raven3x7> well whatever your cdrom is
[10:57] <dave> well hdc froze
[10:57] <dave> this is very, very frustrating
[10:57] <phreakys> how can i shut off a process based on the pid?
[10:57] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: are you sure you got the driver?
[10:57] <dave> kill pidhere
[10:57] <phreakys> cool
[10:57] <phreakys> tnx
[10:57] <dave> itt should not be this difficult to burn a frigging dvd
[10:58] <Oewyn> well, when i installed ubuntu it auto-detected it, i tried doing ndiswrapper, but i don't think it's compatable with the driver that's on my cd (from the wireless card co)
[10:58] <dave> oh guess what, now the window with the mount command is frozen
[10:58] <dave> i am going to go kill myself.
[10:58] <raven3x7> no i my drive always automounts in gnome nec 3550A
[10:58] <raven3x7> frozen?
[10:58] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: try to use iwconfig
[10:59] <dave> jyes, very frozen
[10:59] <selinium> fl have you seen earth.googlr.com?
[10:59] <selinium> fl have you seen earth.google.com?
[10:59] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: okay, anything else i should try before i reboot into linux?
[10:59] <volvoguy> tristanmike, you can get an nerolinux serial if you own the windows version
[10:59] <dave> own?
[10:59] <dave> heh
[10:59] <dave> own or have?
[10:59] <fl> selinium, yeah, I have. But it's Win only...
[10:59] <muffin_> how do i add subfolders to gnome panels?
[10:59] <Akbar> own :P
[10:59] <sn0n> gah
[10:59] <raven3x7> are yoou sure dev/hdc is your cdro?
[10:59] <sn0n> gotta go
[11:00] <tristanmike> volvoguy, how, do you call them to get a NeroLinux serial?
[11:00] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: #iwconfig wlan0 essid any would fix the problem, and you got IRC on gaim to
[11:00] <volvoguy> i own. it's one of the only windows apps worth owning.
[11:00] <dave> no, i am not sure.
[11:00] <hans_> are there better drivers our for radeons yet?
[11:00] <dave> ill try the other one too
[11:00] <Akbar> hans_ proprietary fglrx?
[11:00] <Oewyn> well, if i could access the internet from linux, this wouldn't be a problem, because that would mean my wireless card is working :-)
[11:00] <dave> well, according to my fstab it is hdc.
[11:00] <Oewyn> brb in a few.
[11:00] <gnonthgol> ok
[11:00] <selinium> fl: I keep hearing about it, but I am now linux only.  Still only missout on a few things?
[11:00] <volvoguy> tristanmike, seems like i did it all online. i didn't reinstall it last time i installed Ubuntu, so they may have changed it.
[11:00] <hans_> Akbar i have that but the 2d performance is crappy
[11:01] <selinium> !bluetooth
[11:01] <hans_> and the 3d,too
[11:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, selinium
[11:01] <Akbar> hans_ do you have them properly installed?
[11:01] <Akbar> well fglrx is the best at the moment
[11:01] <Mulero> buenas
[11:01] <Mulero> alguien me puede ayudar?
[11:01] <selinium> Any bluetooth gurus about?
[11:01] <tristanmike> volvoguy, ok, thanx
[11:01] <dave> ok, so. am i supposed to mount a drive with  a blank CD in it?
[11:01] <hans_> akbar thx
[11:02] <raven3x7> dave there is a command to display all eide devices but i dont remember it right now
[11:02] <ompaul> dave, mp
[11:02] <ompaul> dave, no even :)
[11:02] <dave> ok, so why is gnomebaker telling me i need to mount it
[11:02] <dave> error, drive is not mounted! blah blah
[11:02] <muffin_> help: gaim is crashing after startup (when i dont force quit, it disconnects)
[11:03] <usuario> hi!
[11:03] <raven3x7> dave i dont think for burning it but im not sure about that. gnome can mount it and naautilus (gnome file-manager) can burn cds actually
[11:03] <raven3x7> nautilus
[11:03] <ompaul> dave, no idea, but I can tell you that you don't mount blank media
[11:03] <volvoguy> tristanmike, looks like they may have changed it. their site just offers a linux serial number for purchase now. perhaps i got a promotional thing when it was first released - http://ww2.nero.com/enu/NeroLINUX.html
[11:03] <gnonthgol> muffin: use a stable verion might help
[11:04] <tristanmike> volvoguy, you didn't have to go to the trouble, thanx dude :)
[11:04] <dave> well gee. i would like to burn a DVD. is this too much to ask?
[11:04] <dave> i am going to cry. :\
[11:04] <bateau> hmm, for some reason i cant watch movies on webpages. what can i do to fix it?
[11:04] <Akbar> dave or maybe you should try k3b
[11:04] <dave> i shall.
[11:04] <robotgeek> dave: hang in there, a perfecto linux system was not built in a day :)
[11:04] <Akbar> it got nice little menus like win-nero
[11:04] <robotgeek> dave: yeah, and k3b is nice. very easy to use!
[11:04] <kemik> tristanmike:  just e-mail them and ask, ;)
[11:04] <selinium> bateau: get the mplayer plugin
[11:04] <nalioth> brb
[11:05] <volvoguy> dave, i missed out on most of your conversation, but k3b is definitely worth the overhead of some KDE stuff loading with it.
[11:05] <bateau> i got that ( i belive )
[11:05] <moZer> in which package are the kernel headers located?
[11:05] <moZer> don't say "kernel-headers"
[11:05] <muffin_> how do i add subfolders to gnome panels?
[11:05] <dave> the conversatrion is, i can't burn a dvd.
[11:05] <Akbar> yeah I think k3b is the coolest kde app
[11:05] <selinium> bateau: have you installed the codecs?
[11:05] <dave> and i cant find k3b on the GOSH DARNED!!!! gnome menu
[11:05] <robotgeek> dave: apt-get install k3b
[11:05] <selinium> !tell bateau about codecs
[11:05] <bateau> selinium: yeah. all the codecs the guide told me to :)
[11:05] <dave> i have done that
[11:05] <dave> and i have refreshed the gnome panel as well
[11:06] <kemik> moZer:  think you have todo "kernel-headers-$(uname -r)"
[11:06] <robotgeek> dave: then just run it from a terminal
[11:06] <Akbar> dave just run it manually through "run application"
[11:06] <dave> it tells me it cant connect to the x server
[11:06] <qats1> KillerSmurff, now i have sound, but amarok isnt working :p ill have to do some forum search to find the issue
[11:06] <raven3x7> dave have yo tried running gnomebaker both as root and non-root?
[11:06] <gnonthgol> muffin: right clikking it and follow the menus
[11:06] <dave> oh, there you go
[11:06] <dave> i cant run gnomebaker as non root because i cant see my files otherwise
[11:06] <Akbar> ;/
[11:06] <dave> unless someone can tell me how to mount a drive so it is viisble by users. without using dstab
[11:06] <kemik> moZer:  or not. try "linux-kernel-headers"
[11:07] <Akbar> dave use a umask flag..
[11:07] <robotgeek> moZer: apt-get install linux-kernel-header-$(uname -r)
[11:07] <dave> umask flag
[11:07] <dave> thank you very much
[11:07] <volvoguy> i just installed hoary on a new (hand-me-down) machine with an nvidia TNT2 Pro card. (which i've used in several other machines). any idea why i'm getting completely garbled text until X loads? (X didn't load this last time and i can't see anything to troubleshoot). :(
[11:07] <dave> what are you talking about
[11:07] <robotgeek> moZer: apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:07] <Akbar> lol
[11:07] <robotgeek> dave: :)
[11:08] <dave> this is like comedy hour. why doesn't anything work?
[11:08] <Akbar> by setting a umask flag you can make your mounts world-readable
[11:08] <robotgeek> dave: it works, just not that way u want it to :)
[11:08] <dave> robotgeek: well, the way i want it to work is, i want the files to get on the CD.
[11:08] <dave> DVD, rather
[11:09] <robotgeek> dave: did u try k3b?
[11:09] <dave> now.. how do i go about setting this.. umask flag?
[11:09] <dave> k3b told me i needed some other package./ speaking of which, shouldnt that be automatic?
[11:09] <moZer> thx, found linux-headers-`uname -r` eventually
[11:09] <volvoguy> dave, i'm not at my main machine right now so i can't help troubleshoot, but i've burned DVD's right "out of the box" with gnomebaker.
[11:09] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: When i did iwconfig it listed the interfaces, and said that all of them had no wireless extensions.
[11:09] <dave> right, ill try as soon as i can mount my drive as my user
[11:09] <raven3x7> dave yes it should
[11:09] <KillerSmurf> can anyone tell me why kanotix had a different nvidiasetting package with overclocking (using binary driver) than we do?
[11:09] <dave> what is this umask flag
[11:09] <robotgeek> dave: u din't say yes?
[11:09] <eliphas_> your wireless shold be eth1
[11:10] <Oewyn> lo (i think the loopback) eth0 and sit0 or something like that.
[11:10] <dave> robotgeek: say yes to what?
[11:10] <dave> what are you on about
[11:10] <Akbar> set your "options" for the mount to umask=000
[11:10] <Akbar> it should be world-readable then..
[11:10] <dave> Akbar: can i do this through mount, instead of fstab
[11:10] <robotgeek> dave: apt-get install k3b , it would ask u to install other packages, (y/N) say yes
[11:10] <Akbar> dunno
[11:10] <Akbar> man mount
[11:10] <Akbar> :P
[11:11] <dave> i used synaptic
[11:11] <Oewyn> I went to the devices manager and my wireless card was listed as "Marvell W8300 802.11 Adapter" but under device it said "unknown" and for capabilities: unknown.
[11:11] <dave> it said it was going to install 80 billion packages so i clicked apply
[11:11] <Akbar> lol
[11:11] <dave> oh yay, man pages
[11:11] <robotgeek> dave: ah okay...yeah, good enuf
[11:11] <raven3x7> dave yes although for the syntax you would have to check man mount
[11:11] <dave> this is so ridiculous
[11:11] <Akbar> going too fast man
[11:11] <dave> i bet you this man page was written in 1978 and hasn't been changed since
[11:12] <zerboxx> The Ubuntu wiki says the WPC54Gver2 isn't working yet, but I'm not sure how up to date that is, does anyone know if its possible to setup?
[11:12] <KillerSmurf> i'm fianally getting around to setting up finale 2005 on my wife's machine under linux.  wish me luck
[11:12] <dave> it's fifty pages long and nonsensical.
[11:12] <Akbar> any reason why you shouldn't set it up through fstab?
[11:12] <dave> i guess not. let me go do that then.
[11:12] <raven3x7> dave i agree that its rather hard to read
[11:12] <Akbar> ok
[11:12] <robotgeek> lol
[11:12] <fl> dave, give me a break. mount(8) is pretty good.
[11:12] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: any ideas?
[11:12] <robotgeek> yeah, it even has examples :)
[11:13] <Akbar> lol
[11:13] <volvoguy> dave - mount's man page was last updated in 2004-12-16. :)
[11:13] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: It looks to me that eth0 is a normal network card
[11:13] <dave> i'm sure it was updated.
[11:13] <Newguy> could someone please give me the terminal commands for changing permissions on a set of desktop directories so that i may delete them?
[11:13] <raven3x7> fl well yeah but mount itself is complicated
[11:13] <Oewyn> yeah, it is, eth0 is a NIC
[11:13] <Oewyn> built into the compo.
[11:13] <robotgeek> Newguy: what do u want to delete?
[11:14] <dave> but look at the interface of all the mount pages. you have to skim through almost the entire document to find what you're looking for
[11:14] <dave> there are no headings
[11:14] <raven3x7> Newguy, chown
[11:14] <robotgeek> Newguy: alternatively, you can start nautilus as root by doing "sudo nautlius"
[11:14] <fl> always the whining about the man pages. Just because people don't read documentation on Windows. I _did_ actually, and was able to point out something interesting in the Indexing behavior, which was perfectly well documented. *Sigh*.
[11:14] <dave> just like.. 'command line switches' and then fifty switches and a description for each.
[11:14] <fl> maybe I should stop whining myself.
[11:14] <Newguy> ok thanks, i'll try
[11:14] <robotgeek> dave: then how would u prefer it?
[11:14] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: but you dont have any other network cards showing up in Linux, other than lo, sit0, and eth0?
[11:14] <Akbar> dave don't you find that handy as hell?
[11:14] <Akbar> :P
[11:14] <dave> christ. people dont need to read documentation on windows because its easy to use. mind you i could have burned forty DVDs on windows by now
[11:15] <Akbar> not really
[11:15] <dave> i would prefer they said "TO ALLOW USERS TO ACCESS DRIVES:  -u" or whatever
[11:15] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: nope that's why i assumed that it didn't install correctly, and tried to use ndiswrapper...
[11:15] <Kromonos> hi guys
[11:15] <dave> or even have both. because this is horribly frustrating. at least provide a search command from within the man program
[11:15] <rwabel> hi
[11:15] <fl> dave, " people dont need to read documentation on windows because its easy to use" is about as far off the mark as I've ever heard it. People who don't read documentation are going to hurt themselves, sooner or later. On whichever platform.
[11:15] <robotgeek> dave: "allow to install spyware - click yes to continue"
[11:16] <dave> dont get me started on spyware
[11:16] <dave> if i'm the only one in the world who hasn't been infected with spyware or a virus in over half a year, i must be a damn proficient user
[11:16] <dave> of windows^
[11:16] <Akbar> dave it's easy because you already know how this thing works in windows... you actually have to learn something new
[11:16] <fl> dave, to search in a man page, you could use "/" (a forward slash) to search forward, or a "?" to search backward, if you are displaying it in a terminal
[11:16] <rwabel> I've a strange behaviour in breezy. There is no sound. Under Multimedia Systems Selector I can play it, but I can't hear anything. Has someone an idea?
[11:16] <Newguy> ok that's no good, basically, i need to change the directory ownership to something that will allow me to delete... i know to use chown, just not "how" to use it
[11:16] <dave> that's interesting, thanks.
[11:17] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: ndiswraper works fine for me, the linux driver didnt find my kernl
[11:17] <dave> are there any good alternative GUIs for linux?
[11:17] <dave> gnome is a pile of crap.
[11:17] <robotgeek> dave: someone finally gave u some useful info, heh :)
[11:17] <raven3x7> dave you right sp2 is a huge improvement and a little care will make you rather safe.
[11:17] <Akbar> rwabel using alsa?
[11:17] <robotgeek> dave: please don't start a flmaewar :)
[11:17] <uthini> you know
[11:17] <robotgeek> *flamewar*
[11:17] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:17] <robotgeek> rapha: hi
[11:17] <uthini> its kinda hard to make an image of a disk if you only have 30 gb's and the disk is 80gb
[11:17] <selinium> Any bluetooth gurus about?
[11:18] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: I think the problem is the device driver i'm using with it isn't compatable w/ ndiswrapper, but then again, it might be because i didn't install the ndiswrapper-souce package because it doens't exist on the hoary i386 install.
[11:18] <raven3x7> dave there is kde for ubuntu
[11:18] <rwabel> akbar: yes
[11:18] <dave> you dont have to flame anything. it is my humble opinion that gnome is unworkable.
[11:18] <rapha> How do you tell Synaptic to use a specific version of a specific package?
[11:18] <dave> namely because of the focus problems
[11:18] <selinium> Or anybody who has got bluetooth connected to anything?
[11:18] <robotgeek> dave: i use gnome
[11:18] <Akbar> rwabel check to see if your sound isn't muted
[11:18] <selinium> dave: As do i
[11:18] <raven3x7> dave i find kde unworkable personally
[11:18] <rapha> (I want to install E17, but the version of E16 is higher, so Synaptic doesn't show E17)
[11:18] <fl> dave, do you want more clickty-clack or less? More -> KDE. Less -> FWVM.
[11:18] <Akbar> or in use by some sound-daemon
[11:18] <robotgeek> or openbox/fluxbox!
[11:19] <dave> well, in windows, i drag my windows above the top of the screen, just so i can grab them easily later, by reflex.
[11:19] <rwabel> akbar: I've also tried with esd and oss...same problem. alsamixer shows me master and PCM full
[11:19] <raven3x7> yeah fluxbox rules
[11:19] <chrismy> could anyone help me with errordocument?
[11:19] <dave> just so the titlebar goes above.
[11:19] <ginvent> Anyone use wine (the emulator... not the drink?)
[11:19] <dave> in gnome, if you try to do this, you end up resizing the window.
[11:19] <dave> it's very funny.
[11:19] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: I remember reading that the -utils package and -source package were both needed, but the cd didn't have the 2nd on it.
[11:19] <Kromonos> so, I've an Intel Brookdale graphics adapter, but with the i810 drivers, I just get a resolution of 640x480. With VESA I got my 1024x768 but it sucks when I close the lid of my laptop :( What can I do?
[11:19] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: I dont have the source, but are you shure you installed it correct?
[11:19] <dave> also, if you try to grab a window's titlebar in a passing sweep, if you do it too quickly, you have a very large chance of missing it.
[11:20] <monkey89> hey - i've gotten w32codecs, gstreamer-0.8-pitldll or whatever it is, and ran the gst update command - what else must I do for totem in breezy to play w32 files?
[11:20] <dave> the start menu has given me some trouble too..
[11:20] <Akbar> rwabel try shutting off gnome-sounddaemon
[11:20] <Newguy> cool, nautilus worked... thank you much... i really like Ubuntu now that I've gotten everything working... i like the very minimal look of Gnome as well... thank
[11:20] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:20] <robotgeek> dave: i don't use my mouse anymore :) all my windows run full screen. sorry, can't help u there!
[11:20] <Oewyn> I even did it through synaptic also and reinstalled it.
[11:20] <dave> robotgeek: that's worrying
[11:20] <selinium> dave: in gnome I use the workspace switcher and keep seperate workspaces for different applications
[11:20] <rwabel> akbar: how? I mean what is it called to disable it
[11:20] <dave> worrying still
[11:20] <Akbar> a sec
[11:21] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: when i try to add the inf file, i get 3 lines that say that there are parse errors in the file...
[11:21] <robotgeek> dave: try using this method, and maybe u will like it?
[11:21] <raven3x7> monkey89, avoid gstreamer and get totem-xine iinstead ;)
[11:21] <dave> i think if there was a competent GUI developed, that alone would entice many users to switch to linux
[11:21] <emile> rwabel, i had some sound trouble too, switching off iec958 capture monitor did the trick for me
[11:21] <Akbar> gnome-panel -> pref ->sound -> shut off 'enable sound'
[11:21] <benjamin1254> is it possab;le to burn a PPC iso on a pc then boot the cd on the PPC?
[11:21] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: then you install the win driver on ndiswraper, end insert the ndiswraper into the kernl
[11:21] <rapha> monkey89: I've gone back to totem-xine even in breezy. Just gives you less pain.
[11:21] <selinium> dave: have you used the workspace switcher?
[11:21] <GeoffDeGeoff> Question: I can no longer play wmv files, it has suddenly stopped working, I have all the relevant files installed. codes etc. Anyone any ideas?
[11:21] <robotgeek> dave: a competent gui doesn't make windows sell less than OS X
[11:21] <Kromonos> hmm, I think I try the i7xx drivers
[11:21] <raven3x7> dave you probably will find kde more to your liking
[11:21] <rwabel> emile: iec958 in alsamixer?
[11:21] <dave> kde is terrible.
[11:22] <Oewyn> gnonthgol: by the last part, you mean ndiswrapper -m or modeprobe ndiswrapper?
[11:22] <monkey89> rapha, hmm... ill do that if I can't get pitfdll to work, i'd really like it to
[11:22] <Oewyn> modprove*
[11:22] <Kromonos> kde sucks ;)
[11:22] <dave> by competent gui, i don't mean "throw a bunch of random crap all over the place"
[11:22] <Oewyn> er modprobe*
[11:22] <n1xt3r> benjamin125: I don't see why not
[11:22] <robotgeek> monkey89: yeah, totem-xine in breezy works very nicely :)
[11:22] <michael> any podcast client with ubuntu?
[11:22] <raven3x7> dave lol
[11:22] <Evil> ++ all :)
[11:22] <dave> gnome at least looks better than KDE at first glance. about how well they work, i don't know.
[11:22] <robotgeek> !start a wm war
[11:22] <ubotu> I don't know, robotgeek
[11:22] <emile> rwabel, it in your volume control but you have to set it visible via edit preferences
[11:23] <benjamin1254> kevin W explain ur theory
[11:23] <gnonthgol> Oewyn: modprobe, but have you tryed drivers to other windows versions?
[11:23] <selinium> dave: have you used the switcher?
[11:23] <robotgeek> dave: you would probably have to customize it to work the way it works
[11:23] <robotgeek> selinium: i use the switcher with devilspie, very very useful!
[11:23] <uthini> can I get the 2.6.3 kernel using apt-get?
[11:23] <dave> selinium: i've tried it, ic an't get used to it.
[11:23] <dave> it doesn't make any sense to me
[11:23] <dimitris> Can i have multiple dictionaries in openoffice?
[11:23] <malin> hey, can anyone help me with quodlibet?
[11:24] <malin> i installed it yesterday and it won't work
[11:24] <malin> i installed it from .tar.gz
[11:24] <dimitris> I want to be able to correct greek and english at the same time? Is that possible?
[11:24] <rwabel> emile: strange when I want to open the volume controler nothing happends.
[11:24] <malin> when i start it, nothing happens
[11:24] <dave> dimitris: how will you be able to distinguish gree from english?
[11:24] <malin> i just have python /usr/local/bin/quodlibet process
[11:25] <dave> dimitris: if you do that, it seems to me that every single word will be spelled wrtong
[11:25] <selinium> dave: you can drag apps of the desktop onto a workspace, or right click the topbar of an xwindow. Then you can click on each workspace when you need it. I found this sooo much better than windows.
[11:25] <malin> anyone knows what's wrong?
[11:25] <dave> selinium: well, i have mastered the windows interface, it works for me
[11:25] <rwabel> emile: how can I start the volume controler from shell?
[11:25] <emile> rwabel, doubleclick should appear in a few seconds not that i'm an expert with one week ubuntu ;-)
[11:25] <n1xt3r> benjamin125: unless there's something about big indian format or byte order that I'm not aware of, the iso should burn as it's intended format
[11:25] <dave> the only thing that is lacking is some sort of single-key task switcher
[11:25] <raven3x7> dimitris no
[11:25] <michael> podcast?
[11:25] <dave> a replacement for alt-tab
[11:25] <robotgeek> n1xt3r: endian?
[11:25] <rwabel> emile: well I know it should :-) but it doesn't...must be somehow fucked up
[11:25] <dimitris> dave, well i do it with office in windows. I write greek and english in the same document and i can correct mistakes in both languages
[11:26] <n1xt3r> robotgeek: haha yes
[11:26] <dave> ok. well then.
[11:26] <selinium> dave: I used to get one page filled up very quickly. This is why you drag it off the screen, with workspaces I can have many screens so no need to drag them out of sight.
[11:26] <thread> what's the frickin login?
[11:27] <dave> this is so frustrating
[11:27] <PhoenixDPI> hi zenlunatic, hi @all
[11:27] <dave> now /dev/hda5 is busy
[11:27] <n1xt3r> benjamin125: I admit I haven't tried it myself
[11:27] <dave> how could it POSSIBLY BE BUSY
[11:27] <raven3x7> dimitris hmm is that a recent option? older versions couldnt do tht if i remember correctly
[11:27] <thread> on this hoary livecd... the username is ubuntu
[11:27] <thread> password??
[11:27] <anatole> anyone got audioscribbler plugin compiled&working for xmms?
[11:27] <emile> rwabel, dunno the command sorry
[11:28] <rwabel> ok
[11:28] <dave> how od you unbusy a drive?
[11:28] <dimitris> raven3x7, i don't think so. I've been using greek and english dictionaries in the same document the same time since Office 97!!!
[11:28] <n1xt3r> benjamin125: on the flip side I burn iso's for pc's all the time on my ppc
[11:28] <dave> why is my drive busy?!?!
[11:28] <raven3x7> dimitris and correcting documents in both languages simultaneously?
[11:28] <robotgeek> dimitris: you might wanna ask at openoffice forums, or irc channel
[11:29] <husher> michael, i'm installing ipodder now
[11:29] <hussam> Does anybody else see this? some ubuntubackports packages appear as local in synaptic.
[11:29] <ginvent> I need some help setting up wine... anyone use it?
[11:29] <robotgeek> !wine
[11:29] <ginvent> ?
[11:29] <emile> rwabel, found it: gnome-volume-control
[11:29] <robotgeek> ubotu tell ginvent about wine
[11:29] <Akbar> ginvent yeah I use it for dvdshrink
[11:30] <ginvent> I can't get it to use the network... it keeps using the 127.0.0.1 loop instead of eth0
[11:30] <dimitris> raven3x7, yes! If i write a sentence in word that is part english and part greek and i make mistakes in both languages the mistakes are underlined and i can right click to correct them (both languages the same time!)
[11:30] <robotgeek> ginvent: did u "sudo ifup eth0"
[11:30] <raven3x7> dave try umount drive and then try to mount it again
[11:30] <dave> i cannot UMOUNT THE DRIVE. it's busy
[11:31] <dave> i give up.
[11:31] <DekaPink> Er... I'm having a bit of a problem... Kino won't load video files? :3
[11:31] <raven3x7> kill k3b gnomebaker etc
[11:31] <dave> nah, i'm going to bed.
[11:31] <ginvent> Yeah robot, it is already configured...
[11:31] <raven3x7> lol
[11:31] <dave> i'll figure this out tomorrow
[11:31] <monkey89> totem-xine isn't working either, grr
[11:31] <ginvent> I have no idea how to get wine to see it though.
[11:31] <dave> goodnight folks, i love ya
[11:31] <dave> :\
[11:31] <Cheetahfoot> what's the best way to get a rundown of all your system hardware, installed cards, etc. ?
[11:31] <dave> Cheetahfoot: lspci.. and.. uh
[11:32] <raven3x7> dimitris heh i never thought that was possible. btw apo pou?
[11:32] <dave> there are some other ones.
[11:32] <robotgeek> ginvent: did u "sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0" should get you back on the network
[11:32] <dimitris> raven3x7 I can live with correcting one language at a time :-D How can i change the dictionary language so that i can first check the english part of the document and then the greek part?
[11:32] <phoenixdpi_> Cheetahfoot: infobash -v2 or lspci
[11:32] <Cheetahfoot> phoenixdpi_: infobash? ok.
[11:32] <Cheetahfoot> dave: thx
[11:32] <ginvent> robot, the computer can see the eth0 no problem... wine can't.
[11:32] <dimitris> raven3x7 Cyprus :-D
[11:32] <phoenixdpi_> sry i meant to say infobash -v 2
[11:32] <ginvent> when I run a program through wine... it only sees the 127 network.
[11:32] <robotgeek> ginvent: oh, okay...sorry, i don't use wine, can't help u there :(
[11:32] <Akbar> that's odd
[11:33] <monkey89> i get the following error running totem (-xine) in breezy: *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid next size: 0x080b1e00 *** any ideas?
[11:34] <Akbar> *yawn*
[11:34] <zblach> anyone here know how to mend wireless networking woes?
[11:34] <raven3x7> dimitris, thessaloniki edw. it should be in tools spelcheck somewhere
[11:34] <robotgeek> zblach: what woes? i hope not ndiswrapper!
[11:34] <zblach> robotgeek, nope. it has to do with network detection
[11:35] <Ignignokt> hello, i am having some problems finding gstreamer0.8-mad with the synaptic package manager, i cant find that on the list and thus cannot play mp3's can anyone help me???
[11:35] <robotgeek> zblach: so, your card is not seeing the AP?
[11:35] <zblach> robotgeek, yes. that is correct
[11:35] <zblach> robotgeek, iwlist wlan0 scan turns up nothing
[11:35] <dimitris> raven3x7 Euxaristw file
[11:35] <robotgeek> zblach: which card do u use, and what does dmesg say?
[11:36] <zblach> dmesg?
[11:36] <zblach> robotgeek, card: WMP11V27, router WRT54G
[11:36] <malin> Ignignokt, try terminal: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:36] <robotgeek> zblach: okay...
[11:36] <Akbar> Ignignokt setup your /etc/apt/sources.list to use the universal repository
[11:37] <zblach> robotgeek, what is dmesg?
[11:37] <Akbar> or... universe..
[11:37] <robotgeek> zblach: run dmesg in a terminal
[11:37] <zblach> cool
[11:37] <zblach> it says tons
[11:37] <Ignignokt> yar malin your way would work
[11:38] <robotgeek> just look for the lines with wireless dmesg | less and press space to scroll. see if you can find anything useful :)
[11:38] <raven3x7> goodnight
[11:38] <yaru22> What does it mean by 'Totem Movie Player uses gstreamer backend'?
[11:38] <rwabel> how can I get a 2.6.10 kernel in breezy?
[11:39] <robotgeek> raven3x7: nite
[11:39] <Ng> yaru22: totem is a front end to different multimedia libraries. Either gstreamer or xine
[11:39] <juanej> hey, i have a problem with xfce, i just installed it and my fonts are too small
[11:39] <malin> i know, Ignignokt, i installed it yesterday :-)
[11:39] <yaru22> Ng, what is 'front end'?
[11:39] <Ng> yaru22: the graphical interface that you see and use.
[11:39] <yaru22> Ng, oh i c then...
[11:40] <yaru22> Ng, backend means text user interface?
[11:40] <Ng> yaru22: not necessarily, in this case gstreamer is a series of library files that other programs can use to encode/decode/play multimedia files
[11:41] <Ng> yaru22: but some graphical front end programs are just talking to text interface programs, for example a lot of cd burning interfaces do that with the cdrecord program
[11:42] <Hikaru79> juanej, XFCE uses GTK. Have you tried playing with your GTK theme settings?
[11:42] <yaru22> Ng, i c... thank you very much
[11:42] <selinium> anatole: i am trying to get it running now
[11:42] <Viziri> Hi - i'm going following the procedure here http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net/ to get my modem working, but an error pops up telling me the program needs gcc-make. Any advice on where to get this program. I'm a newbie
[11:42] <Hikaru79> Viziri, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:42] <drewfus> my system is having trouble recognizing my extra hard drive, sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt
[11:42] <anatole> selinium: you compiled it already?
[11:42] <drewfus> i was able to get all the data off but now what?
[11:42] <selinium> Trying to now.
[11:43] <Hikaru79> drewfus, what fs?
[11:43] <Viziri> ok Hikaru79
[11:43] <drewfus> right now ntfs
[11:43] <drewfus> or nfts i forget
[11:43] <Hikaru79> drewfus, Linux's support for NTFS is edgy at best.
[11:43] <anatole> selinium: tell me when you're done with the musicbrainz part.
[11:43] <remyforbes777>    has anyone installed ubuntu 64 on an amd laptop
[11:43] <drewfus> how do i format?
[11:43] <anatole> that's where i gave up ;)
[11:43] <Hikaru79> First of all, it is read-only, unless you are making write changes that do not affect the file size
[11:43] <selinium> anatole: if i get it done!
[11:43] <Hikaru79> drewfus, what do you want to make it? FAT, ext3, reiser?
[11:44] <drewfus> i used the read only to copy all the data
[11:44] <drewfus> whatever works best with ubuntu
[11:44] <Hikaru79> ext3.
[11:44] <drewfus> ok
[11:44] <Hikaru79> Just use "mkfs.ext3"
[11:44] <Hikaru79> I believe that is the name .. can't check, not on Ubuntu at the moment.
[11:44] <drewfus> use?
[11:44] <remyforbes777> anyone using ubuntu 64 bit
[11:44] <drewfus> is that a command or do i look it up online?
[11:45] <gnonthgol> command
[11:45] <Ng> remyforbes777: not on a laptop, but I have used it on desktop machines
[11:45] <w1ng> hi
[11:45] <gnonthgol> hei
[11:45] <Hikaru79> drewfus, it's a command that should already be in your path.
[11:45] <slask3n> what application is good to make images of CDs?
[11:45] <Ng> drewfus: you need to know which /dev/ file corresponds to the hard drive partition you want to format
[11:45] <w1ng> which file in linux is similar to the autostart-file in windows?
[11:45] <remyforbes777> Ng: i just bought a compaq laptop amd turion 64 512 MB,
[11:45] <zblach> slask3n, you need a camera for that
[11:46] <remyforbes777> how did it work for  you
[11:46] <drewfus> i typed it in and it just popped up with a bunch of options
[11:46] <slask3n> zblach: lol
[11:46] <drewfus> ok
[11:46] <Hikaru79> drewfus, read the options. They tell you what syntax you have to follow.
[11:46] <w1ng> i need to know which file is run when the system is starting up
[11:46] <Blissex> slask3n: thatn do you mean with that? To _create_ an image or to _copy_ it off an existing CD?
[11:46] <drewfus> anything else i need to know about it?
[11:46] <Hikaru79> Although I think just putting the device name of the drive after the command is enough.
[11:46] <Hikaru79> (As root, of course)
[11:46] <drewfus> yeah
[11:46] <gnonthgol> w1ng: Linux dont suport any autostart
[11:46] <Hikaru79> Nothign that isn't covered in mkfs.ext3 --help wouldn't cover.
[11:46] <X_tabay> ho
[11:46] <drewfus> ok thanks, if that doesnt work ill be back later
[11:47] <Hikaru79> =) Okay. Remember, formatting kills all data.
[11:47] <Ng> remyforbes777: ok. I switched to the 32bit version so things like flash/games would work more easily, but the 64bit version is fine if you don't care about those, or have a 32bit "chroot" install to run a few things from
[11:47] <Hikaru79> So backup.
[11:47] <slask3n> Blissex: to create an 1:1 imagefile of an CD
[11:47] <drewfus> i did
[11:47] <Blissex> slask3n: 'cp'
[11:47] <Hikaru79> Goodie.
[11:47] <emile> slask3n, i used to use something like this dd if=/dev/cdromdevice of=/tmp/image
[11:47] <gratuit> what is the next release of ubuntu going to be called?
[11:47] <Hikaru79> gratuit, Breezy Badger
[11:47] <w1ng> gnonthgol, when the system starts up, there has to be a batch file or something which tells the system which services it has to start
[11:47] <remyforbes777> nah i dont care about flash, i am going to dual boot it with windows anyhow in case I need it
[11:48] <Ng> slask3n: most if not all of the cd burning tools synaptic knows about will be able to do it
[11:48] <remyforbes777> i wonder how it will work with my internal wireless
[11:48] <Viziri> Hikaru79: could u give us that command again ( about gcc  make)
[11:48] <Ng> Blissex: cp is not going to make a cd image
[11:48] <Hikaru79> Viziri, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:48] <Viziri> thanks!
[11:48] <Hikaru79> :) NP.
[11:48] <zblach> Hikaru79, can you help me fix my network?
[11:48] <gnonthgol> w1ng: You put the script in /etc/init.d/ and remember that it have to suport the atrebute start and stop
[11:48] <Hikaru79> zblach, I don't know the first thing about wireless networks =(
[11:49] <Blissex> Ng: yes it is, exactly the same as 'dd'.
[11:49] <w1ng> okay, thanks a lot!
[11:49] <Hikaru79> I've never had one, or been on one.
[11:49] <w1ng> gnonthgol: are the scripts in the init.d startet as root?
[11:49] <Ng> Blissex: you are assuming that the cd is mounted and purely data?
[11:49] <gnonthgol> w1ng: yust look at the existing scripts and use them as a template
[11:49] <zblach> i'm being ignored in #networking, so i'm stuck here for a while
[11:49] <Blissex> Ng: I asked slask3n if he meant burning or not.
[11:49] <Hikaru79> zblach, you might also want to try #linux
[11:49] <Ng> Blissex: dd or a cd ripping tool will produce an exact cd image, which is what he asked for
[11:50] <gnonthgol> w1ng: the last thing started in the boot
[11:50] <jchico> what does the `.` in front of a command do? like if you were to type ". /usr/bin/appname" what does that do?
[11:50] <Ng> he said "1:1"
[11:50] <Blissex> Ng: 'dd' and 'cp' do exactly the same thing.
[11:50] <Hikaru79> jchico, '.' represents the current directory
[11:50] <Hikaru79> Because current dirs are not in your path by default
[11:50] <Ng> Blissex: please tell me how you expect cp to do it
[11:50] <slask3n> Ng: I know kb can create .ISO-files, but thats KDE and i try too use most gnome-apps like gnomebaker, but gnomebaker seems like it doesnt have the functionality of making ISO-images. And most burning-apps dont make 1:1 copies either
[11:50] <Blissex> Ng: cp /dev/cdrom /tmp/cdrom.img
[11:50] <Hikaru79> So if you have a script in your current dir called 'test' but your current dir is not in your path, runnign 'test' will not wrok
[11:50] <Hikaru79> However, running './test' will.
[11:51] <jchico> oh but I thought it had to be written like "./blah/blah" so you can also write it like ". /blah/blah" ?
[11:51] <warkoz> dfgdfgfdg
[11:51] <Hikaru79> jchico, no space...
[11:51] <Hikaru79> But yes
[11:51] <slask3n> Blissex: How the f*** do you mean you can copy the contents of an copyprotected game and run it afterwards?? Pkease be serious or go to bed!
[11:51] <jchico> thanks Hikaru79, maybe I'm just reading the command wrong...
[11:51] <Hikaru79> If you are in "/home/jchico" and there is a script there named myScript, then './myScript' is equivalent to writing out '/home/jchico/myScript'
[11:52] <Hikaru79> That's what './configure' is :) Running the 'configure' script in the current dir.
[11:52] <Ng> Blissex: my apologies, I've never noticed that before, I figured that would just copy the device file
[11:52] <slask3n> Ng: i ment k3b, but i need some app like clonecd or blindwrite just for linux.. these apps makes 1:1 sopies but is for windows only
[11:52] <Ng> slask3n: I'm not sure, I just use dd ;)
[11:52] <Hikaru79> There's a security-related reason why '.' is not in the path by default, so we just have to live with it =P
[11:52] <yoko-mo> can anyone help me with a problem?
[11:52] <juanej> hey, i have a problem with xfce, i just installed it and my fonts are too small
[11:52] <slask3n> Ng: ok
[11:52] <neighborlee> does anyone know if there is any decision as to whether or not to integrate admin and preferences menu structure into one  control panel ?? ( or some form thereof)
[11:53] <emile> there's nothing wrong with double-d dd ;-)
[11:53] <yoko-mo> when ubuntu boots, the mouse cursor is fine, then after running a while or something, the cursors all turn black
[11:53] <Blissex> slask3n: making a 1:1 CD copy in the general case is _impossible_. In the case of simple data discs it is possible, in the case of audio discs it is very difficult, in the case of copy-protected games one needs special applications and special drives...
[11:53] <yoko-mo> I am running gnome
[11:53] <volvoguy> i have 2 hard drives doing RAID0 that are on the same IDE bus. can i move one to the other ide bus without killing the array? (it'll still be /dev/hdb right?)
[11:53] <slask3n> Ng, Blissex, emile: dd and cp just copies the files on the disc, i need to have an 1:1 copy of the disc including the subchannels
[11:53] <maan84> Excuse me, I mounted an *.img file to /home/maan84/Movies/ before with mount -o loop filename mntdir , um dumb question, but how do I unmount it? :)
[11:54] <Blissex> maan84: 'umount <mountpoint>'
[11:54] <Blissex> volvoguy: yes.
[11:54] <zer0> or umount <device>
[11:55] <maan84> Blissex, thank you
[11:55] <volvoguy> Blissex, thanks. :) i'm really impressed with the performance even on the same bus. i'm sure it'll even be a little better on a separate bus. i'm gonna go play. be back in a bit.
[11:55] <|Imp|> i can't get java working
[11:55] <|Imp|> am i missing something?
[11:55] <maan84> It says device is busy, can I make it not busy in another way than rebooting? :)
[11:55] <Blissex> volvoguy: on the same bus is not that good an idea, but it still works.
[11:55] <emile> |Imp|, jre?
[11:55] <Blissex> maan84: not device, but mountpoint...
[11:55] <Seveas> |Imp|, what did you try?
[11:56] <|Imp|> emile, yes
[11:56] <|Imp|> i tried apt-get like ubuntuguide
[11:56] <emile> i saw in the wiki it was broken as of 24 august
[11:56] <slask3n> Blissex: Please go to bed! 1:1 copies ar n_NOT_ impossible! Yes you need special apps like CloneCD or Blindwrite or similar, yes. But you can use every CD-ROM of newer era to do it
[11:56] <|Imp|> it said package not found
[11:56] <maan84> Blissex, I wrote sudo umount /home/maan84/Movies/ and it said umount: /home/maan84/Movies: device is busy
[11:56] <Seveas> |Imp|, ubuntuguide is bad
[11:56] <Seveas> and hoary-extras no longer has java
[11:56] <Blissex> maan84: if there is any process/program, including a file explorer like nautilus, which has got files or directories open under the mountpoint.
[11:56] <|Imp|> Seveas, what do you recomend?
[11:56] <emile> |Imp|, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:56] <volvoguy> Blissex, yeah. i know. i was having problems getting it to work at all with the cdrom on the second bus also though. now that ubuntu is installed, i don't need that cdrom drive anymore. :)
[11:57] <Seveas> build a .deb yourself (it's not too hard) or grab one from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:57] <selinium> Hi all, anyone want to help me through my first compile? I am getting some errors. :D
[11:57] <Blissex> selinium: join #C for example
[11:57] <Seveas> selinium, errors at the pastebin please :)
[11:57] <Seveas> Blissex, the first errors are usually ubuntu-specific
[11:57] <Seveas> like missing packages :)
[11:58] <Blissex> maan84: you can discover which processes are keeping a directory CD'ed or a file open using 'lsof' or 'fuser'
[11:58] <Kromonos> re
[11:58] <maan84> Blissex, I can't find a process using it (I think) :) Though I find filename.img /home/maan84/Movies Udf under devices in the system monitor
[11:58] <maan84> Blissex,
[11:58] <whyameye> anybody know anything about adding menu items to Gnome? I've been trying SMEG with no success...
[11:58] <maan84> ok ill try that :)
[11:58] <Kromonos> so, i'm now using the right driver, but my keyboard is wrong :(
[11:59] <Blissex> whyameye: ask direct questions, not ''anyone'' questions, and the answer is: probably someone in #GNOME :-)
[11:59] <Kromonos> i can't using the shift key :(
[11:59] <selinium> Seveas: Here you go! http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1621  :)
[11:59] <fourcheeze> anyone got real player 10 running on ubuntu?
[11:59] <whyameye> Blissex, my question is direct: how do you add menu items in Gnome?
[11:59] <fourcheeze> or does anyone have a link to download realplayer 8/9 ?
[11:59] <Blissex> whyameye: no, _this_ question is direct, and the answer is still: better to ask in #GNOME :-)
[12:00] <maan84> Blissex, great it worked! Thanks :) it found gam_serve using it, is kill PID the best way to end the process? *new* :)