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jsgotangco | great | 04:01 |
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jsgotangco | we're only 2? | 04:01 |
ajmitch | hi jsgotangco | 04:01 |
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ajmitch | docteam? | 04:02 |
jsgotangco | yeah | 04:02 |
jsgotangco | wtf | 04:02 |
jjesse | where is everyone? | 04:02 |
jsgotangco | they requested 14UTC on friday and no one comes | 04:02 |
jjesse | or does no one have anything to contribute? | 04:02 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: that is sad | 04:02 |
jsgotangco | if that's the case | 04:02 |
jjesse | jsgotangco: i agree it is sad, there has been like no movement on the kubuntu docs except what i have done | 04:03 |
jjesse | people have dropped off :( | 04:03 |
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jsgotangco | jjesse: sorry if that is the case, I have been busy with other stuff... | 04:03 |
Mez | hehe :D | 04:03 |
jjesse | no worries jsgotangco | 04:03 |
Mez | at least you had a better turn out than my last NUN meeting | 04:03 |
jsgotangco | the Edubuntu project is taking too much time | 04:03 |
Mez | last time, I had noone turn up | 04:04 |
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mdke | hi all | 04:04 |
jsgotangco | ooo | 04:04 |
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mdke | sorry I'm a little late | 04:05 |
jsgotangco | mpt: sorry about that, my fault i didnt send an email :( | 04:05 |
jsgotangco | mdke: we're only 3 | 04:05 |
mdke | ah | 04:05 |
jsgotangco | hmmm | 04:06 |
mdke | so what's the plan? | 04:06 |
jsgotangco | we can't make a decision | 04:06 |
jsgotangco | i can just blabber about what im doing | 04:06 |
jsgotangco | and let jjesse talk as well | 04:06 |
jsgotangco | other than the currently murderous laptop testing i am involved, i am also being mauled by edubuntu... | 04:07 |
mdke | how is edubuntu? | 04:07 |
jsgotangco | the cookbook is doing well, i am awaiting highvoltage's troubleshooting guide | 04:07 |
jsgotangco | we can't meet up with doc freeze but ogra is ok with it | 04:07 |
mdke | is it getting a bit of testing on some networks? | 04:08 |
jsgotangco | yes | 04:08 |
mdke | that's cool | 04:08 |
jsgotangco | but there's a snag on some dhcp issues | 04:08 |
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jsgotangco | other than that, ogra was a prototype with gartoon icons and all | 04:08 |
mpt | ogra is a prototype? cool | 04:09 |
jsgotangco | hey jeffsch | 04:09 |
jsgotangco | s/was/has | 04:09 |
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jeffsch | howdy | 04:09 |
mpt | :-) | 04:09 |
mdke | hi there jeffsch | 04:09 |
jsgotangco | christ i cant focus on the meeting big brother is on tv | 04:09 |
jsgotangco | other than that, the only big project for edubuntu is the cookbook | 04:10 |
jsgotangco | but its so hard because im the only one doing it at the moment | 04:10 |
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jsgotangco | im not complaining really just saying the current situation | 04:10 |
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jsgotangco | Quick tour is being done by Burgundavia | 04:10 |
jsgotangco | he plans to do it in HTML | 04:11 |
jsgotangco | understandable though, it should be formatted accordingly | 04:11 |
mdke | i would like to know, where is the spec for the quick tour? | 04:11 |
jsgotangco | there's no spec really, but there's a draft | 04:11 |
mpt | jsgotangco: Try the power button | 04:11 |
jsgotangco | QuickTourDraft | 04:11 |
mdke | i heard a lot about a "respec" of the quickguide, but I never actually saw a spec | 04:11 |
jsgotangco | mpt: no way, they are playing in the pool | 04:12 |
mdke | does anyone have the ip of the docteam linode handy? | 04:12 |
jsgotangco | i don't even know it! | 04:12 |
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mdke | it starts with 65 | 04:12 |
mdke | ;) | 04:12 |
jsgotangco | 65.19.178.132 | 04:13 |
mdke | ty | 04:13 |
jsgotangco | so there that's what im gonna say about what i've been up to | 04:14 |
mdke | we still need a domain name for that | 04:14 |
jsgotangco | mdke: you have root access? | 04:14 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: your turn if you're ready | 04:15 |
mdke | yes, myself and henrik | 04:15 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: ? | 04:16 |
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jsgotangco | guys? | 04:17 |
jsgotangco | ok | 04:17 |
jsgotangco | yesterday james was on the room | 04:17 |
jsgotangco | (jblack) | 04:18 |
jsgotangco | he was selling baz to us | 04:18 |
jsgotangco | good thing a good number of people weere online | 04:18 |
jsgotangco | im not so sure if the others were convinced | 04:18 |
jsgotangco | jeffsch: ? | 04:18 |
jjesse | sorry | 04:18 |
jjesse | boss was here | 04:18 |
jsgotangco | oh alright | 04:18 |
jjesse | the question i need to know is what is going to be breezy's package management program? | 04:19 |
jsgotangco | mdke: ? | 04:19 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: for kubuntu? | 04:19 |
mdke | jsgotangco, sup? | 04:19 |
jjesse | yes for kubuntu | 04:19 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: did you ask Riddell or amu? | 04:19 |
jjesse | no i didn't kow who to ask | 04:20 |
jsgotangco | ok you can ask Riddell he's lead on all things Kubuntu with Amu | 04:20 |
jjesse | thanks i will ask then i can make the changes | 04:20 |
jsgotangco | sorry i don't know either | 04:20 |
jsgotangco | ( i havent been using kde for a while) | 04:20 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: what doc were you doing again? | 04:21 |
jjesse | kuserguide but kquickguide will need to be changed as well | 04:21 |
jjesse | if the package manager changes | 04:21 |
jjesse | we refrence kynaptic throughout all of the kubuntu docs | 04:22 |
jsgotangco | jjesse: ok i promise to review the doc this weekend for typos and consistency but i cannot promise to change the text | 04:22 |
jjesse | no problems. i will change what needs to be changed just let me know | 04:22 |
jsgotangco | alright, i will ask the kubuntu people as well, but you should try asking them yourself as well so they'll know who they are working with :) | 04:23 |
jsgotangco | Riddell is also open to reviewing the doc i talked to him before | 04:23 |
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jsgotangco | yay | 04:24 |
jeffsch | is anyone reviewing the faqguide? (other than me) | 04:24 |
jjesse | ok i will ask them directly and ask for help if i am not getting a response | 04:24 |
jsgotangco | jeffsch: i did, it's quite painful to read it in yelp :) | 04:24 |
Burgundavia | *yawn* | 04:25 |
jsgotangco | can it be exported to html? | 04:25 |
jsgotangco | the doc is profiled btw | 04:25 |
jeffsch | yes. cd ubuntu-doc/gnome | 04:25 |
jeffsch | make faq | 04:25 |
jeffsch | that will build all versions | 04:25 |
jjesse | also i'm trying to convice apokryphos who helps a lot of people on #kubuntu to help reviewing the docs | 04:25 |
jsgotangco | ahhh | 04:25 |
jeffsch | you can make faqi386 to build only i386 version | 04:25 |
jsgotangco | hmm | 04:26 |
jsgotangco | can we put the build instructions in a wiki page? | 04:26 |
mdke | i also hope to have a look at the faqguide | 04:26 |
jeffsch | jsgotangco: i will try to find the time. no promises though | 04:27 |
jsgotangco | jeffsch: no worries, i will build the docs later so i know what to do too | 04:27 |
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jeffsch | how often do the links from DocteamProjects get updated? | 04:28 |
jsgotangco | mdke: ? | 04:28 |
mdke | about twice a week | 04:28 |
mdke | but we really should be using the linode | 04:28 |
mdke | that updates every day | 04:29 |
jsgotangco | i thought the previews are already done in linode? | 04:29 |
jeffsch | how long before we get a name for the linode | 04:29 |
mdke | jeffsch, your guess is as good as mine, we've been waiting ages on elmo | 04:29 |
jjesse | can we move the previews of the kubuntu docs there as well, they haven't been updated in awhile :( | 04:29 |
jeffsch | maybe we can just go ahead and use the ip for now. change it to the domain name if and when it comes | 04:30 |
mdke | jjesse, it is all there already | 04:30 |
mdke | jeffsch, yeah i think that may be the best idea | 04:31 |
jsgotangco | it would have been faster if we got a .tk domain :) | 04:31 |
jsgotangco | or i paid $15 for a .us one | 04:31 |
mdke | or we could just add a dyndns domain | 04:31 |
mdke | for free | 04:31 |
mdke | i don't mind doing that | 04:31 |
jjesse | hmmm then we need to change the link on docteam projects cause the preview goes to the http://lnix.net/~froud/ site which hasn't been updated | 04:32 |
mdke | jjesse, yeah, we are still waiting on a domain name for the linode server | 04:32 |
mdke | ok i'll set up a dyndns for now | 04:33 |
jsgotangco | let's do the dyndns now | 04:33 |
mdke | ok | 04:34 |
mdke | any preferences? | 04:34 |
jsgotangco | let's see elmo's response | 04:34 |
jsgotangco | what does he mean by that? | 04:35 |
jsgotangco | ok we settle this later | 04:37 |
jsgotangco | Burgundavia: you got an update? | 04:37 |
Burgundavia | quicktour should go into HTML by today or tomorrow | 04:38 |
Burgundavia | then we can start taking screenshots | 04:39 |
jsgotangco | have you tried today's build its pretty solid | 04:39 |
mdke | Burgundavia, where is the spec for the respecced quicktour? | 04:39 |
Burgundavia | in my head? | 04:39 |
mdke | i see | 04:39 |
Burgundavia | cool new features from Breezy and cool features from Ubuntu | 04:39 |
Burgundavia | pretty simple doc actually | 04:40 |
mdke | so is this a docteam project at all? | 04:40 |
Burgundavia | yes | 04:40 |
jeffsch | Burgundavia: publish the spec. we cant help you if we don't know the point of the doc | 04:40 |
mdke | quite | 04:40 |
Burgundavia | jeffsch, mdke ok | 04:40 |
mdke | it's not a docteam project until then | 04:40 |
Burgundavia | I will put it at the top of QuickTourDraft | 04:40 |
mdke | you just said "i've respecced the quickguide", but we never saw it | 04:41 |
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jsgotangco | ok? | 04:43 |
Burgundavia | done | 04:44 |
jsgotangco | ? | 04:44 |
jsgotangco | wow | 04:44 |
jsgotangco | 1 sentence? | 04:45 |
Burgundavia | it is a very simple spec | 04:45 |
Burgundavia | for a simple doc | 04:45 |
jsgotangco | ahrr | 04:45 |
jsgotangco | ok anything more? | 04:47 |
jsgotangco | this is a terribly boring meeting | 04:47 |
Burgundavia | where are we at for shipping docs? | 04:48 |
jsgotangco | the lesson of the story here is next time, we do a spec at the very start | 04:48 |
Burgundavia | yes | 04:48 |
jsgotangco | it was my mistake not to do it before | 04:48 |
mdke | how can others contribute to quicktour? | 04:49 |
mdke | on the wiki? | 04:49 |
Burgundavia | yes | 04:50 |
Burgundavia | the html should be going into svn RSN | 04:50 |
mdke | do you think it would be good to send a call for contributions? | 04:50 |
Burgundavia | sort of did | 04:50 |
jsgotangco | i asked Burgundavia if it can be shown to the world 1 month before release | 04:51 |
jsgotangco | sort of a sneak preview | 04:51 |
jeffsch | so we have quicktour and faqguide that we should be working on | 04:52 |
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jeffsch | we need to have both done by sept 8, right? | 04:52 |
Burgundavia | yes | 04:52 |
jeffsch | so far myself and mdke have said we will be reviewing faqguide | 04:53 |
jeffsch | we need more volunteers if we are going to have it done in time | 04:53 |
Burgundavia | I may get a chance to | 04:53 |
mdke | rob will help | 04:53 |
jeffsch | see the changes i made to the first few questions in tips and tricks to see how things should be | 04:54 |
jeffsch | as it is now, the faq guide style is curt | 04:54 |
jeffsch | not good for new users | 04:54 |
Burgundavia | curt? | 04:55 |
jeffsch | it was written to get the info out there fast, but now it needs to be made more presentable | 04:55 |
Burgundavia | ah, ok | 04:56 |
jsgotangco | jeffsch: that's the problem. UbuntuHelp should fix that but its not really ready for primetime | 04:56 |
jeffsch | yes. after breezy we can deal with ubuntuhelp | 04:57 |
mdke | well the faqguide can be made presentable I'm sure | 04:57 |
jeffsch | right now though, we need faqguide to appear more friendly | 04:57 |
jeffsch | mdke: yes | 04:58 |
jsgotangco | we only have 2 weeks | 04:59 |
jsgotangco | can it be revised on time? | 04:59 |
mdke | we can try. | 04:59 |
jeffsch | we should get as much done as possible | 04:59 |
mdke | if we can also ask rob^ to amend some of the style, this will help because he spends lots of time working on it | 05:00 |
jeffsch | as long as he isn't sick of it by now :) | 05:00 |
mdke | ;) | 05:01 |
jsgotangco | he already put it up for review so i guess that's a go signal for us | 05:01 |
jeffsch | so me and mdke will be reviewing. anyone else? jsgotangco? | 05:01 |
jsgotangco | sure | 05:02 |
jsgotangco | im up for it | 05:02 |
jsgotangco | rob^ hasn't been updating for a while so i guess its a go | 05:02 |
jeffsch | ok. i have started at the back. someone take the front, and someone take the middle | 05:02 |
mdke | yes the relevant sections are marked for review | 05:02 |
mdke | see the status report | 05:02 |
jeffsch | in the faqguide, when you come across something like (for eg) Read Q10.1, change it to what it really is | 05:05 |
jeffsch | so Read Q 10.1 would become "Restart GNOME. (See Q 10.1) | 05:05 |
mdke | i've set up ubuntu-doc.ath.cx for the linode | 05:06 |
mdke | is that acceptable? | 05:06 |
jsgotangco | yes | 05:06 |
jeffsch | that's not the permanent one though, right? | 05:06 |
mdke | no the permanent one should be doc.ubuntu.com | 05:06 |
jeffsch | so why not just use the ip? | 05:07 |
jeffsch | is the ip going to change? | 05:07 |
jsgotangco | its a long story | 05:07 |
jeffsch | np. just curious. | 05:08 |
mdke | the ip shouldn't change | 05:08 |
mdke | it seems there is a problem with pointing doc.ubuntu.com to the linode | 05:08 |
mdke | elmo and henrik will sort it out together i hope | 05:09 |
jeffsch | ok. are we done yet? | 05:09 |
mdke | i'm off now | 05:09 |
jsgotangco | alright anythign else | 05:10 |
Burgundavia | nope | 05:10 |
jsgotangco | we can do in the list | 05:10 |
jsgotangco | don't forget to greet me happy birthday | 05:10 |
mdke | happy birthday | 05:10 |
jeffsch | jsgotangco: happy birthday | 05:10 |
jsgotangco | doh | 05:10 |
jsgotangco | errr baz? | 05:11 |
Burgundavia | best to discuss that post-Sept 8th | 05:11 |
jeffsch | let's keep baz discussion on #ubuntu-doc for now | 05:11 |
jsgotangco | ok | 05:12 |
jsgotangco | anything else? | 05:12 |
jsgotangco | alright were cool thanks all | 05:12 |
jeffsch | c ya | 05:13 |
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