[12:04] err, anyone a C++ transition guru [12:05] looking at this debian package, the author has made libexatractor1c2 provide: libexatractor1 [12:05] isnt that broken? [12:05] yes [12:05] so i wont merge taht [12:05] slap him round a bit [12:05] i'll mail him === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["So] [12:06] it means that exising packages will happily try & use the incompatible .so [12:06] and fail miserably in a screaming heap, in many cases [12:07] as i thought [12:07] the only case where it may work ok, is where he changed c102 -> c2 [12:07] and nothing actually depends on libexatractor1 [12:07] right, except he is providing libexatractor1 not libextractor1c2 [12:07] err, 1c102 [12:08] yep [12:08] if he had c102, he should have dropped it & not gone to c2, but that's another matter :) [12:09] +Conflicts: libextractor1, libextractor0, libextractor [12:09] +Replaces: libextractor1, libextractor0, libextractor +Provides: libextractor1, libextractor [12:09] fun :) [12:10] nasty, imho [12:10] quite [12:11] not sure why it eneds any of it really [12:12] hes also enforcing building with gcc4 [12:12] it doesn't [12:12] by modifying rules to specify CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.0 [12:12] that may have been excusable at one point [12:13] but not when 4.1 is made default, and has the same ABI [12:13] ok [12:13] well i can just leave out this entire merge then === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] not sure what to do tho [12:13] since i dont "want" to merge the changes :) [12:13] just leave the version where it is? [12:32] siretart: ? === Yagisan [n=jamie@220-245-83-189-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:54] who was working on packaging avahi? [12:55] lathiat [12:55] well, he got a DD to package it [12:55] yeh ross burton did it [12:55] ah [12:55] its ready, im just waiting for 0.2 before i upload [12:55] lathiat: got any updated stuff for me to upload, like a proper dbus reload? [12:55] which will be soon [12:55] ok.. [12:55] the package is all fixed up tho [12:55] great [12:55] as far as i can tell [12:55] ajmitch: what about the dbus reload? [12:56] i got the dbus restart removed [12:56] since that seemed to be the thing to do, im nto sure if that decision has been changed [12:56] right [12:56] it just didn't love me until I restarted debus, remember [12:57] hm. I was about to ask about starting avahi earlier in the boot process to enable nfs mounts on .local hostnames to work, but it occurs to me that avahi doesn't actually have to be running for that, does it... [01:03] ajmitch: right [01:03] ajmitch: but if you restart dbus, you break things [01:03] phlaegel: libnss-mdns doesnt need avahi to be running [01:04] phlaegel: the new version (0.6) will use it if available, but if not it'l fall back to its own code [01:05] lathiat: what currently breaks if you restart it? [01:05] lathiat: it's a sad thing, that restarting something makes programs break :) [01:05] ajmitch: yes it is, theres been a big uproar about it [01:06] flamefest with walters, etc [01:06] much fun [01:06] ajmitch: battstat applet crashes atm [01:06] right [01:06] it breaks other things too but i dont know about them [01:06] problem is [01:06] its hard to reconnect [01:06] so far I've only used it on my desktop [01:06] libdbus sucks [01:06] and keeps lots of internal state [01:06] and walters wont fix it because they dont recommend restarting [01:06] or something [01:06] argh [01:07] people will need to restart it at some point [01:07] they reboot [01:07] You now need to reboot your computer' [01:07] yes [01:07] exactly [01:07] welcome to windows 95 [01:07] yarr [01:07] so anyway [01:07] becase i waw filled with hate [01:07] i started writing a new dbus client library [01:07] that doesnt suck [01:07] haha [01:07] so we have libebus-client, but its far from ready yet :) [01:07] how well does it work? [01:08] got the code up anywhere? [01:08] not at all yet :) [01:08] naw its mostly just playing atm [01:08] 10 points if you have it in bzr or baz archive :) [01:08] yeh i was just thinking [01:08] might play with bzr [01:09] bah 7am [01:09] back to being shaped [01:10] i need more disk io so i can pbuilder 3 times at once without my laptop crying at me [01:10] yeah [01:10] I might need to put in the ata133 card I have on the shelf [01:10] and another disk [01:10] nice fat raid5 array woudlnt go astray [01:11] mmm [01:11] and quad dual core opterons [01:11] and 4GB of ram [01:11] maybe 8 :) [01:11] I've only got an 1800+ XP [01:11] 1GB [01:11] heh [01:11] im no a pentium-m 2ghz with 512M [01:11] laptop? [01:11] ya [01:11] i only have a laptop :) === ajmitch jealous [01:11] my gatway is an athlon 800 [01:11] which is now running an x server [01:11] for the pure purpose of x2xing its keyboard to said laptop :) [01:11] gateway is a p2-350 [01:12] 80GB disk, so it can run squid & apt-proxy [01:12] because slouching over the laptop is bad === ajmitch should move his ubuntu apt-proxy onto the gateway box [01:12] since it has 37GB free in /var [01:13] ok... good night everybody :) [01:13] night slomo :) [01:13] ajmitch: try apt-cacher, see if it works better :) === lathiat looks at his 98% iowait [01:15] it probably will [01:15] but the gateway box is sarge [01:15] ah [01:15] mine runs hoary [01:15] I might upgrade it to breezy [01:15] blah starting to get tired [01:15] last 3 packages for tonight i think [01:16] pbuilder is only up to 'f' for unmet deps here :) [01:18] configure: WARNING: regexp.h: present but cannot be compiled [01:18] configure: WARNING: regexp.h: check for missing prerequisite headers? [01:18] configure: WARNING: regexp.h: proceeding with the preprocessor's result [01:18] configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## [01:18] configure: WARNING: ## Report this to bug-autoconf@gnu.org. ## [01:18] configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## [01:18] hrm [01:19] I've seen that in the past [01:19] compiles anyway === lathiat shrugs [01:19] is there any way to determine packages that didnt coem from debian? [01:19] apt-get.org style? [01:19] just thinking of chasing up unmaintained stuff [01:20] lathiat: I figured that avahi didn't have to be running to resolve names, but then why do my nfs mount on .local names fail on boot most times? [01:20] yeah, I've got a list generated by my ugly scripts [01:20] phlaegel: no idea [01:20] hm [01:20] lathiat: http://ajmitch.dyndns.win.co.nz/debuild/ubuntu/merge-tool/current/rfp [01:21] lathiat: what's the changelog entry for libextractor, etc rebuild? [01:22] * Rebuild to lose libdps1 dependency. [01:22] feel free to DEBFULLNAME="Trent Lloyd" DEBEMAIL="lathiat@bur.st" *G* [01:23] i think i've got enough to convince the CC anyway :) [01:23] echo "libextractor vips drawtiming" > lathiat.dps1 [01:23] ./buildList.sh lathiat.dps1 transition "Rebuild to remove libdps1 dependency" [01:23] running now :) [01:23] ajmitch: while your at it [01:23] ajmitch: add sawfish, animal0, dvdauthor [01:24] heh [01:24] too late :) [01:24] I really need to add in testing hooks [01:25] this pkgstat is the best thing [01:25] makes it so easy yay [01:25] so I can put conditions on, eg "doesn't depend on libcairo1" [01:25] ajmitch: ah [01:25] ajmitch: thatd be usefull [01:25] indicates whether the binaries lost the dep, reduces the work for me :) [01:26] 07:26:09 up 9:20, 13 users, load average: 2.57, 2.80, 2.85 [01:26] poor thing [01:26] CPUs at 64C, running hot :) [01:27] Rebuilding libextractor, 0.4.2-2ubuntu2 [01:27] dch worked :) [01:27] cool :) [01:27] what's the pkgstat url? [01:28] bur.st/~lathiat/pkgstat.shs ? [01:28] http://bur.st/~lathiat/pkgstat.shs [01:28] let me upload again [01:28] hangon [01:28] done [01:28] ok [01:30] I might clean mine up & put it on the wiki [01:30] whats yours do [01:30] or just put up the bzr url :) [01:30] the buildList.sh [01:30] and the ugly python [01:31] ah === lathiat forces his laptop fan to full speed [01:32] im not sure it good to have it running so warm :) [01:33] hm, < 1GB free on /home [01:33] oops [01:33] hrm im down to 1.4G [01:33] that'l last me a while yet :) [01:34] hrm === lathiat wonders what happened to libxp-dev === lathiat wonders where one is supposed to get X11/extensions/Print.h now === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu ["So] === tritiu1 [n=Michael@67-42-207-145.albq.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritiu1 [n=Michael@67-42-207-145.albq.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:29] who does pull packages from Debian ? [02:30] sylpheed-claws-gtk2 isn't in universe [02:30] so I'm rebuilding it pulling the source of Debian [02:31] or shall I just upload it to REVU === rbelem is now known as rbelem-afk [02:49] Who was having the problem with a broken archive-mirror? [02:49] Hi all. :) === Yagisan [n=jamie@220-245-245-202-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] jblack: jsgotangco, wasn't it? === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] Yeah. [03:09] js: There? [03:09] Nope [03:09] hehe [03:10] if i've got a program that relies on a configuration file existing in the user's home directory, and i'd like to copy over a sample configuration to the home directory if one doesn't exist, would this be accomplished via maintainer scripts? [03:14] jtan325: No that wouldbe a bad idea, what you would do is put an example file in /usr/share/doc/ along with a README.Debian explaining what to do [03:14] no, it would have to be done by the program when it runs [03:14] creating a config file on first run is fairly common [03:14] or that [03:14] heya folks [03:14] since there can be many users on a box [03:14] what we have currently is what lathiat suggested [03:14] hello trulux [03:14] but [03:14] anyone has seen 'tritium' lately? [03:14] ajmitch: hey [03:14] no [03:14] ajmitch: how's going the summer? [03:14] our program complains that the file doesn't exist in ~/ if it doesn't [03:15] which is fine [03:15] but users keep coming to us and don't understand what's going on [03:15] jtan325: is it a gui program? [03:15] even though there exists a sample config file in /usr/share/doc/conky/examples [03:15] jtan325: perhaps you could patch the program to print out that they shoudl go look at the examples [03:16] lathiat, i wouldn't say gui, but it is graphical [03:16] and then theres the unfortunate fact that you'll get stupid users [03:16] that is a good idea [03:16] jtan325: more wondering if it should pop up an X dialog with a warning, if its launched froma menu [03:16] trulux: summer? we've just had winter [03:16] hmmm interesting [03:16] ajmitch: oh, right. I always forget it [03:16] will explore both options, thanks [03:17] then what are the "maintainer scripts" for? [03:17] ajmitch: talked to Russell lately? [03:17] i was undert the impression that postinst would be some place to do the copying over === rcliii [n=rcliii@cpe-65-26-158-102.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] trulux: no, not for a bit [03:18] jtan325: well you cant really know what user to copy it to [03:20] ah i see [03:20] ok thanks. === robitaille [n=daniel@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritiu1 [n=Michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritiu1 [n=Michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === tritium [n=tritium@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] how's new mexico again, mike? === chiefofthejojos [n=chiefoft@jaim.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] Hey there crimsun :) === SloMo_ [n=slomo@p5487FFB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] It's great to be home, and even better to have internet access after 3 weeks fighting with Comcast [05:25] ouch [05:25] Yeah, it's been a real bummer. And there's no chance of getting on IRC at work. === chiefofthejojos [n=chiefoft@jaim.at] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:26] But I'm finally up and running again. [05:27] hi tritium [05:28] hello there ajmitch :) === LaserJock [n=LazerJoc@adsl-69-111-249-66.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tgall_foo [n=tgall@gentoo/developer/dr-who] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === marc__ [n=marc@dsl-202-72-174-149.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:28] hai alls [06:29] anyone here? [06:29] nope === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] hey ajmitch how are ya [06:30] ok [06:31] ajmitch: got a quick question I've got a python library thats linked into another library which is in breezy and the setup.py python script creates a build directory in the folder and I want to change that to the /tmp directory how do I parse that to the setup.py script? [06:31] e.g. dh_python setup.py build $(DESTDIR)/tmp === ajmitch tries to parse sentence [06:31] or does cdbs take care of that for you? [06:32] since its all working when I install it but I want it cleaner thats all [06:32] afaik you don't call dh_python that way === ajmitch could be wrong [06:33] ajmitch: I've commented out the whole script and just but include cdbs and it compiles and installs fine [06:33] will you be around to ask me in an hour or so? 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crimsun_ [n=crimsun@sh.nu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-65-26-216-107.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] kaffe is synced, looks like we need to do some fixing though === hub_ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === bur[n] er [n=norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@220-245-19-156.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:33] Can anyone tell me if there is an 'old' package in breezy and there is newer package available should I contact the packager or should I just basically slightly re-arrange his debian folder in the newer version and then upload it? [08:34] morning \sh [08:37] <\sh> StrikeForce_work: new debian version or new upstream? [08:37] <\sh> morning btw [08:39] I think he means the latter [08:39] <\sh> the latter means new upstream, so uupadte ;-) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:44] new upstream version \sh [08:44] sorry just updating it [08:45] e.g. mhash 0.9.1 is the current version in breezy however 0.9.2 is out and it fixes some bugs. I also need it for python-mhash :) made by the same guys === pef [n=pef@dyn-83-156-92-175.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] morning [08:46] morning pef [08:47] <\sh> StrikeForce_work: uupdate is your friend... [08:47] ahh k [08:48] subtle hints don't normally work :( === tvelocity [n=tony@chan530-a054.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:52] does openoffice.org2 use the gtktoolkit for you ? it uses qt toolkit on my laptop === tix [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Guest591 [i=JavaUser@p5092547D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:25] \sh: Thanks so much for the hint for uupdate saved me a crap load of time [09:26] <\sh> StrikeForce_work: well...I learned to love it sometimes as well :) [09:28] lol as long as the package gets built I'm getting it pbuilt now and then I'll do a lintian check then upload it if it all works I've added ubuntu1 to it because I think it was just a debian package [09:32] <\sh> StrikeForce_work: if it was a new debian upstream, sync it via elmo [09:35] huh can you give me a link on how more info? [09:35] so in other words send it to debian? [09:36] <\sh> no [09:36] <\sh> sync it from debian :) [09:36] <\sh> and elmo is our man for this :) [09:36] ahh k [09:36] elaborate that little bit more please I'm a bit dumb :) [09:38] <\sh> if there is a new debian package for the new upstream version, we sync the package from debian (after testing it by the requestor) and we don't upload it with "ubuntuX" version... [09:39] erm debian doesn't have 0.9.2 [09:39] <\sh> every package which is synced from debian, will be synced again for the next release cycle [09:39] <\sh> ok..that's something different [09:39] http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libmhash&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all [09:39] thats the debian package list [09:40] <\sh> then we need to upload it, if it's really fixing serious bugs...but think about the UVF and FV [09:40] <\sh> -FV+FF [09:40] http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4286 [09:40] thats the new version from the sourceforge page [09:40] unless the version is just a patching of 0.9.1 hence the -1 [09:41] maybe I can't remember debian's layout [09:41] looking in the debian directory it says that its mhash (0.9.1-1) unstable; urgency=low [09:41] * New upstream version. (closes: Bug#263093) [09:41] * Don't rebuild autoconf files to get static libraries. Just pass args [09:41] to configure script. [09:42] Which is true 0.9.1 'was' a new upstream version [09:42] however there was bugs which I was advised of and hence 0.9.2 has been released [09:42] <\sh> sorry...I have to stop here...meeting with the ISP director from iesy :( [09:42] <\sh> cu later [09:42] cya [09:44] if 0.9.2 has critical bugfixes, then I'd push it into breezy/uni === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-111-135.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:45] since after breezy freezes, there will be a period where we won't be working with newer versions (since there won't be a devel branch) [09:51] kk [09:51] Just I append the ubuntu1 crimsun ? [09:56] tseng: ping [09:56] morning [09:56] siretart_: morning [09:57] siretart_: Do you have time to answer a question? [09:57] StrikeForce_work: Don't ask to ask. just ask :) [09:58] Ok then :) === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] StrikeForce_work http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4286 [09:58] StrikeForce_work thats the new version from the sourceforge page [09:58] StrikeForce_work unless the version is just a patching of 0.9.1 hence the -1 [09:58] StrikeForce_work maybe I can't remember debian's layout [09:58] StrikeForce_work looking in the debian directory it says that its mhash (0.9.1-1) unstable; urgency=low [09:58] StrikeForce_work * New upstream version. (closes: Bug#263093) [09:58] StrikeForce_work * Don't rebuild autoconf files to get static libraries. Just pass args [09:58] StrikeForce_work to configure script. [09:58] StrikeForce_work Which is true 0.9.1 'was' a new upstream version [09:58] StrikeForce_work however there was bugs which I was advised of and hence 0.9.2 has been released [09:58] lol siretart_: thats the easiest way to ask it [09:58] what do I do? [09:59] I have packaged 0.9.2 which is a new upstream version however debian doesn't have it [09:59] StrikeForce_work: in future, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for longer pastes ;) [09:59] do I append ubuntu1 to it and upload it to revu? [09:59] ahh k sorry :) [10:00] libmhash? [10:01] yeah siretart_ [10:01] StrikeForce_work: hm. so you basically ask for exception of UVF, yes? [10:02] I'm not asking for anything I just need the updated one in so I can add another package which is python-mhash [10:02] StrikeForce_work: I need to know what bugs are fixed with the new version, and if all 12 depending package will still work and build with the new version [10:02] well I've done a pbuild and it works [10:03] in regards to building that is :P [10:03] well, you are asking :P [10:03] lol [10:03] I'll get you the link [10:06] StrikeForce_work: as far as I understand you, you need an update of libmesh [10:06] for another, NEW package. [10:06] libmhash yes [10:06] err, yes, sorry [10:06] because the old libmhash had bugs in it and so did the python-mhash [10:07] so they had new releases [10:07] I want to be convinced, that the new libmhash does not inflict problems in existing packages [10:07] fair enough [10:07] how do I find that out? [10:07] we have 12 packages in breezy depending on that. can you prove that these 12 packages still build and work with the new libmhash? [10:07] siretart_: it doesn't matter anyway [10:07] libmhash is in main [10:08] ajmitch: oh. good point [10:08] StrikeForce_work: now you have a much harder job: convince mdz :) [10:08] StrikeForce_work: and he really wants to see very good arguments ;) [10:08] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=7298501&forum_id=5134 [10:09] mmmh [10:09] memory leak.. delicious.. [10:09] so if the package was updated by debian would it be included in breezy? [10:09] is this the only change? if yes, you have good chances, I'd say [10:09] thats the only change but it includes to packages being libmhash2 and libmhash-dev [10:10] which is the concern [10:10] I've tested both after uupdating them [10:10] and the other package I was testing worked fine [10:10] which had a memory leak its a library for python [10:10] python-mhash [10:10] made by the same guy or one of them [10:11] I was in the process of uploading to revu when \sh told me not to so I cancelled it [10:11] StrikeForce_work: I'd say write an email to #ubuntu-devel with all information/links mdz needs to decide if an exception of UVF is appropriate [10:11] StrikeForce_work: it is in main. there is no point in uploading to revu, because MOTU's cannot upload to main anyway [10:11] yeah I didn't know that :( sorry [10:12] unless some uploader to main excplicitly ask to do so [10:12] ok [10:12] so that python library would have to go to main as well? [10:14] not necessereliy (how is that spelled correctly?) [10:14] so would I just email ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com? [10:14] jupp [10:14] http://sourceforge.net/projects/mhash/ [10:15] I've been searching and I can't find it anywhere in breezy or in hoary [10:15] I can't find it in debian either [10:15] which is very surprising [10:18] can someone upload kvpnc ? :) === mdke [n=matt@81-178-66-99.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] hello, is there an MOTU around who would be interested in preparing an updated package of ddclient? The one in current breezy is extremely old and lacks certain features that I for one would really appreciate being able to access in Breezy [10:25] siretart, is there a mailing list to make this sort of request on? [10:26] ddclient for dns? [10:26] i can try although im no MOTU [10:26] i can package [10:28] that would be awesome [10:28] well siretart: I've sent the email so I'm hoping they accept it [10:28] jsgotangco: that would be great, if you have some time leftover. just upload your updated package to revu [10:28] StrikeForce_work: great :) [10:29] now should I upload python-mhash or leave since it depends mhash-0.9.2 although breezy has 0.9.1 in it? [10:30] jsgotangco, if you are up for it, that would be great [10:31] mdke, i'll try to do it later i was thinking of packaging a popular local app here that can sms [10:32] jsgotangco, the debian package is also out of date so you'll have no help there, but you can use the ubuntu package for the current version I guess. [10:37] Can anyone tell me how I can get dh_python to build in a tmp directory under the debian/packagename directory? [10:37] for some wierd reason its compiling it in the packages directory :( [10:38] I'm using cdbs for the whole process [10:39] jsgotangco, lemme know how you get on :) === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mdke [n=matt@81-178-66-99.dsl.pipex.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janimo [n=pet@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host43-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] anyone? [11:12] hey \sh hope things went well with the isp [11:12] siretart: Have you received the email? [11:12] re-changing my pw [11:13] <\sh> StrikeForce_work: ah..we will get some new machines from our new mother company :) [11:13] beautiful damn good work there [11:13] StrikeForce_work: I answered you that I could not decipher your message [11:13] really? [11:13] <\sh> funny thing is, that we're using sparc+solaris (most of the services) and they're using HP+Linux :) will be fun [11:14] \sh: it will be interesting thats for sure [11:14] siretart: Is it a case of me uploading my key to another place? [11:15] StrikeForce_work: it is a case of you need to send me a message encrypted to my key, not yours ;) [11:16] siretart: ok how do I do that? [11:16] err. huh? [11:16] you have my keyid, have you? you need to import my key and encrypt against that key [11:16] I haven't got your keyid? [11:16] where is your keyid :P === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [11:17] look in the footer of my last mail [11:17]