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Blissexmaan84: usually it is OK.12:00
Kromonosso, i'm now using the right driver, but my keyboard is wrong :(  i can't use the shift key :(12:00
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maan84Ok :)12:00
BlissexKromonos: a bit more details would help those few of us that are not telepathic...12:00
flickerfly|homeI seem to be having problems with my browser freezing. Firefox and Epiphany are both affected by this.12:01
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Fionnhi. I just installed "network-manager". Unfortunately I seem to be unable to get the panel applet to appear anywhere. Does anyone here know how to get this going?12:01
emilewhat is epiphany?12:01
Fionnemile: a browser12:01
funkyHatflickerfly|home, is there anything particular that you do before just before the crash?12:01
Blissexemile: a derivative of Mozilla, specifically for GNOME.12:01
emileah is it any good?12:01
Blissexemile: it is better integrated with GNOME. Not a huge advantage, but it has more cool factor.12:02
Fionnemile: as good as any browser that does not support moz extensions ;-)12:02
yoko-mocan anyone help me with my mouse problem?12:02
flickerfly|homefunkyHat: not really, it does happen each time I go to gospelcon.com12:02
Blissexflickerfly|home: that can be because of a bug in the browser, or more likely some JavaScript loop.12:02
seliniumfourcheeze: sudo apt-get install realplayer12:03
Kromonosi tryed to configure my intel brookdale graphics adapter, i made it with xorgcfg, but then the maximum resolution is 640x480. so i tried with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. everything is working fine. just the shift key isn't accepted :(12:03
fourcheezeselinium: now that's what I thought12:03
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fourcheezehowever the download page now only has real player 1012:03
flickerfly|homeBlissex: I go to the same page in firefox on my Gentoo system without problems12:03
fourcheezeselinium: and the installer wants 8 I think12:04
slask3nBlissex: Why so sarcastic and grumpy?? This is supposed to be a nice channel with nice people helping newbies and others with problems. Not just grumpy people that is just f**king up the athmosphere... Have you been laid the last month? Cause it really doesnt sound like that!12:04
codecaineanyone in her efamiliar with the xchat identify script provided by freenode?12:04
Blissexflickerfly|home: Firefox is a different browser...12:04
fourcheezeso I installed realplayer 10 manually12:04
fourcheezeand it just sits there12:04
flickerfly|homeBlissex: it happens in firefox and epiphany12:04
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Fionnso... nobody here using network-manager?12:04
Blissexflickerfly|home: but not in Gentoo?12:04
robotgeekFionn: me using!12:05
flgood night, guys.12:05
seliniumfourcheeze: oh, I installed realplayer via apt and got no trouble. Did you enable the extras/backport repos before installing?12:05
slask3nSo what app under linux makes 1:1 copies of CD's?12:05
Blissexslask3n: it is a nice channel, and some people could ask better questions.12:05
Fionnrobotgeek: how did you get the panel applet to appear!?12:05
flickerfly|homeBlissex: Correct12:05
codecaineslask3n, gnomebaker12:05
fourcheezeselinium: no - how do I do that?12:05
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selinium!tell fourcheeze about repos12:05
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h08817!repositories12:06
ubotuI heard repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:06
fourcheezetks12:06
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flslask3n, dd if=/dev/your_cd of=copy.bin bs=2K12:06
robotgeekFionn: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start, "sudo nm-applet" to start applet, recommend a restart12:06
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Blissexslask3n: that's _in  the general case_ impossible. Moreover I think no free software utilities exist to do that, for the obvious reasons. However, however, you can get for fairly cheap Nero for Linux, and that might do something.12:06
flBlissex, beg to differ. Why should it be impossible?12:06
seliniumh08817: thats what the !tell does but it sends it to the user not the channel12:06
Blissexflickerfly|home: that's quite odd that Firefox freezes on Ubuntu but not Gentoo.12:06
KromonosBlissex: i tryed to configure my intel brookdale graphics adapter, i made it with xorgcfg, but then the maximum resolution is 640x480. so i tried with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. everything is working fine. just the shift key isn't accepted :(12:07
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Fionnrobotgeek: oh. on my system there is no init.d script. NM is started by dbus.  And why "sudo" for nm_applet?12:07
flickerfly|homeBlissex: Since it happens on both Epiphany and Firefox, I'm thinking its some plugin or something.12:07
slask3nBlissex: I agree, but most of the people asking here is not familiar with linux, and doesn't have the knowledge enough to express them self so accurate as others... Btw, Nero doesnt make 1:1 copies12:07
Blissexfl: because he wants ''copy protection'' bits copied too, and those often rely on illegal sector formats on the disc.12:07
robotgeekFionn: i know, but it refuses to start without the sudo12:07
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Blissexslask3n: Nero does _some_ copy protection workarounds...12:08
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Blissexflickerfly|home: that's possible, in that case it would be Flash.12:08
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slask3nBlissex: yes I know, but i want 1:1 copies not copyprotection work-arounds12:08
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robotgeekslask3n: u mean like clonecd?12:08
Fionnrobotgeek: I can start it as root or as user - no iconn appears in my panel.  :-(12:08
flBlissex, oh man, I forgot people use copy protected CDs. I just don't buy that sh*t.12:08
TrippDoes anyone know how to change mp3 to ogg?\12:08
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slask3nrobotgeek: yes something similar too clonecd just for linux12:09
flickerfly|homeBlissex: flash? I wouldn't have guessed that, but it could be.12:09
whyameyeBlissex, just so you know, nobody answered on #Gnome. One wouldn't think adding a menu item would be so hard...or uncommon.12:09
flbut a little playing with the tools should do the trick, even here...12:09
flickerfly|homeBlissex: thanks, I'll try updating that12:09
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flso, good night.12:09
fourcheezetripp I usually pipe a decoder into oggenc12:09
Fionnslask3n: k3b supports some kind of nibble copy mode12:09
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Fionnslask3n: I think it uses cdrdao for that12:09
seliniumTripp: have you tried sox?12:09
Blissexfl: and reading ''broken'' sectors and then writing them requires special drives/logic, even if many do support that.12:10
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juanejdo anyone know whats gnome default dpi???12:10
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Blissexslask3n: for example it is very difficult and often impossible to 1:1 copy audio CDs, because they are in a somewhat ''raw'' format...12:10
Blissexjuanej: nobody.12:10
Cardoeanyone seen Martin Pitt?12:10
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slask3nFionn: Its not making 1:1 copies including the subchannels12:10
fourcheezeselinium: ok, I've added the extras and now apt-get install realplayer installs realplayer 10 by itself12:10
robotgeekjuanej: it's 75, i guess12:11
juanejBlissex, i just installed xfce and fonts are too small12:11
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fourcheezeselinium:  however when I run it it just sits at the command prompt12:11
codecaineslask3n, you mean when i copy my music cd it's not an exact copy? what is it missing that's different?12:11
slask3nBlissex: I'm not going to make a audio-CD than i just rip it to mp3 or some equal format12:11
Fionnslask3n: well, usually you dont need that on linux, do you?12:11
fourcheezeselinium: if I strace it it seems to be doing waitpid(-1,12:11
Blissexwhyameye: OK, I dont use GNOME, I use KDE. IIRC there is no easy GUI program yet to edit the GNOME menu, you got to edit a text file...12:11
robotgeekjuanej: try to see if xfce has some method of increasing font size, maybe in style?12:11
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codecaineBlissex, smeg menu editor12:12
robotgeekBlissex: smeg12:12
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damskosmeg12:12
seliniumfourcheeze: what are you trying to listen to/view?12:12
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fourcheezeI'm just trying to open the thing12:12
Blissexslask3n: for audio CDs however 'cdparanoia' _tries_ to do a copy as close as possible, a bit like ExactAudioCopy under MS Windows, and usually succeeds.12:12
fourcheezeselinium: by typing realplay on the command line12:12
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juanejrobotgeek, already do that12:12
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juanejbut firefox websites12:12
Blissexjuanej: your problem is very familiar to me...12:13
juanejand other applications stay with the same font12:13
Milk_hello!12:13
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slask3nFionn: no I actually never came across a copy protected cd for linux. but i'm going to copy some WindoZe games12:13
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Blissexjuanej: and it is a mess :-). The DPI is usually computed from the monitor visible image size in millimiters and in pixels.12:13
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Blissexjuanej: the best thing to do is to ensure that the X configuration includes the monitor size in millimiters correctly.12:14
chrismycould anyone help me with apache 404 config?12:14
juanejon gnome it was ok12:14
mach1nehi everyone12:14
emileslask3n, i'm reading there's a hacked up version of dd called ddrescue which can do some tricks which dd cant. Never used it, but maybe the thing for you12:14
codecaineI didn't realize it didn't make an exact copy.12:14
seliniumfourcheeze: one mo...12:14
juanejBlissex, do i have to measure it? lol12:14
emilehttp://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/12:14
Blissexjuanej: the second best thing is to force the ''right'' DPI at X server startup.12:14
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Blissexjuanej: I did it with a ruler, really.12:14
juanejBlissex, what line do i have to add to xorg.conf?12:14
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Blissexjuanej: however for example LCD screens have the display image size in mm in the specs.12:14
robotgeekBlissex: there's a better way to do it, pulling up the link!12:14
mach1nei installed ubuntu yesterday and i think its great but how do i log on as root or how do i change my account to root?12:15
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Blissexjuanej: also, many monitors, if the support DDC, will tell the X server the size, but that's not as good12:15
slask3nIs there any apps that makes 1:1 copies of a CD including subchannels like CloneCD under WindoZe? I need it to make a 1:1 backup copies of some copy protected windows-games12:15
robotgeekubotu tell mach1ne about sudo12:15
Kromonosfuck12:15
Blissexjuanej: because the actual display image size depends on CRTs on the amount of black border for example...12:15
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pixelmonkeyHey, does anyone know if there's a halfway decent way to get NetworkManager running under Hoary without compiling it + all its libraries from source?  Is anyone maintaining an unofficial repository so I can just get it and the other libs?  I suppose I could just pin breezy to do so, but I'm being lazy at the moment :)12:15
Kromonossry, but .......12:15
h08817?12:15
Blissexjuanej: the right line id 'DisplaySize' in the 'Monitor' section.12:15
mach1nei installed ubuntu yesterday and i think its great but how do i log on as root or how do i change my account to root?12:15
chrismyanyone?? 404 error?12:15
robotgeekBlissex,juanej : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097612:16
rrm3mach1ne, use sudo.12:16
mach1nesudo?12:16
mach1newhats that?12:16
juanejlook, xdpyinfo | grep resolution reads 72x72 dots per inch12:16
rrm3mach1ne, it let's you execute things as root, so you don't have to log in as root.12:16
BlissexKromonos: you ''shift key'' problem is most likely because you got the keyboard type wrong in the C configuration.12:16
robotgeekmach1ne: check your pm12:16
chrismymach1ne, sudo means superuser do :D12:16
mach1neooh ok12:16
Oewynis there anyway to do Protected eap authenticaion over a wireless network with ndiswrapper?12:16
Kromonoswhen i activate vesa driver instead of i840 keyboard and resolution are good, but if i close the lit of my laptop, x sucks12:16
juanejrobotgeek, thx, im trying that12:17
h08817!tell mach1ne about sudo12:17
BlissexKromonos: use 'xkeycaps' to check the exact type of your keyboard (101/102/104/105 keys and layout).12:17
robotgeekh08817: already did that12:17
Blissexjuanej: 72 sounds a bit too low for a modern system.12:17
chrismymach1ne, change your root account password?12:17
h08817lol sry12:17
chrismyanyone friendly enough to help me on apache? :D12:17
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juanejchanging to 9612:18
juanejbrb12:18
mach1neim not really familiar with linux12:18
emileto get rootshell using sudo: sudo -s -u root12:18
iapx8088chrismy, what's on12:18
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namelessshello12:18
kemikemile:  why not "sudo -i"?12:18
seliniumfourcheeze: I have just installed it and it works fine for me, sorry. Maybe something that you did installing it has left some configs behind.  try sudo dpkg -P realplayer   then install again12:18
namelesssi have a problem, somebody can help me ?12:18
rrm3I need some boot options added permanently (it's a pain editing them from grub every time).  Where do I change the boot options?12:18
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fourcheezeselinium: ok, thanks for that I'll give it a go12:18
chrismyiapx8088, hey there! i want to know how to setup custom 404 error. could you please guide me?12:18
mach1nejust need it for C/C++12:18
seliniumnamelesss: not unless yu ask12:18
emilekemik, because i didnt know that ;-) thnx12:19
iapx8088rrm3, /boot/grub/menu.lst12:19
namelesss^^12:19
rrm3iapx8088, thanks!12:19
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namelesssok i want to install camllight12:19
kemiknp12:19
namelesssbut i only have a .rpm install file12:19
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namelessshow can i install it ?12:19
iapx8088chrismy, I can recall it at the moment, but I think it's simply a directive in http.conf, and fairly simple, just name the new 404 file.12:19
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Nevadoanyone with an nforce mobo, is there actually any point to installing the nvidia nforce drivers? my comp seems to work fine without them (although lspci has a whole raft of 'unknown device's)12:20
chrismyiapx8088, hold on how ? the first setp will be?12:20
chrismystep12:20
mach1neand how do install a flash plugin?12:20
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chrismyiapx8088, i am dumb sorry...12:20
seliniumnamelesss: use alien12:20
namelesssthat's what  i do12:20
iapx8088chrismy, at first you need the htm 404 custom page, do you12:20
namelesssbut now i have a .deb file12:20
tristanmikenamelesss, alien converts to .deb12:20
namelesssin home12:20
namelesssyes12:20
drewfusmy system wont recognize my slave drive unless i plug it into the cd ide controller as the master, any ideas?12:20
namelessshow install a .deb ?12:20
seliniumnamelesss: dpkg -i whatever.deb12:21
chrismyiapx8088, yes in my /var/www i named it error.html. content is just 'hello'12:21
dalamardpkg -i blah.deb12:21
iapx8088chrismy, just fine12:21
chrismyiapx8088, for testing that is12:21
namelesssok i try it12:21
chrismy:D12:21
seliniumnamelesss: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb12:21
Blissexdrewfus: thats really a generic hw question.12:21
KromonosBlissex: there my keyboard works12:21
chrismyiapx8088, so what is next?12:21
drewfusi dont know where to get help with it though12:21
drewfussorry12:21
iapx8088chrisn now you should edit your httpd.conf12:21
chrishey does does anyone know if theres are debs for the gnome 2.12 testing release?12:21
Crepusculoi dont obtain to mount a second HD thats in VFAT, my kernel is 2.6.10-5-386. would have as to reconfigure it?12:21
Blissexdrewfus: but typically its because you haven't changed the jumpers quite right.12:21
drewfusthey are12:22
namelessshey it works !!!12:22
chrismyiapx8088, ok i found 2 httpd.conf. so which you refer?12:22
namelesssthanks for all selinium12:22
drewfusuata using cable select12:22
iapx8088chrismy, first read it all, and search for something about custom errors12:22
seliniumnamelesss: np12:22
chrismyiapx8088, hold on12:22
iapx8088chrismy, tell me the path12:22
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drewfusive also tried normal jumper settings with the correct master slave jumpers12:22
iapx8088chrismy, or find a way to make apache show the one it's reading12:22
chrismyiapx8088, yes # Customizable error response (Apache style)12:23
seliniumfourcheeze: Any joy?12:23
chrismyiapx8088, i didn't understand. what path? how show?12:23
drewfusmight it have anything to do with the fact that when i boot up with both drives plugged in it says drive 1 not found drive 0 not found12:23
chrismyiapx8088, http://clch.zapto.org . see how you can help12:23
iapx8088chrismy, you have to edit the right one, or you changes will not be read by apache12:23
drewfuswhen i boot up with only my master it says drive 0 not found, but i press continue and it works fine12:24
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KromonosError activating XKB configuration.12:24
KromonosIt can happen under various circumstances:12:24
Kromonos- a bug in libxklavier library12:24
Kromonos- a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)12:24
Kromonos- X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation12:24
KromonosX server version data:12:24
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KromonosThe X.Org Foundation12:24
Kromonos6080200012:24
KromonosIf you report this situation as a bug, please include:12:24
Kromonos- The result of <b>xprop -root | grep XKB</b>12:24
Kromonos- The result of <b>gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd</b>12:24
chrismyiapx8088, ok i set it ErrorDocument 404 /error.html12:24
juanejdamn, i just do that xorg.conf thing and dpi stays at 7212:24
iapx8088chrismy, for understanding the right one, I believe you are on your own12:24
chrismyiapx8088, so i restart apache?12:24
iapx8088sure12:24
chrismyiapx8088, yes sure12:24
Oewynis there anyway to do Protected eap authenticaion over a wireless network with ndiswrapper?12:24
iapx8088Kromonos, that' s what I definitely call flood12:25
Kromonossry12:25
Kromonosbut this is the fucking error message that i got12:25
tristanmikeKromonos, that's why there is pastebin or #flood12:25
Kromonosok, sorry, i don't know about this12:26
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mach1nehow do reg my nick?12:27
seliniumKromonos: You are lucky the channel op isn't around, you could of earned yuorself an instant kickban12:27
EasterSunshineKromonos: that is because you didn't read the topic upon entering the channel12:27
iapx8088./ns help register12:27
Blissexjuanej: either add '-dpi <whatever>' to where the X server is started, or use 'DisplaySize' in the _right_ 'Monitor' section.12:27
Kromonosyes EasterSunshine, because i can't read it because of the fucking error message12:27
Blissexjuanej: what kind of monitor is yours BTW? inches, type and pixels you got on it.12:27
slask3nIs there any apps that makes 1:1 copies of a CD including subchannels like CloneCD under WindoZe? I need it to make a 1:1 backup copies of some copy protected windows-games12:28
Kromonosand of the *argh* resolution of 640x48012:28
lJlolelhow do i set the time from the command line?12:28
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Kromonosand my dead shift keys12:28
seliniumKromonos: EasterSunshine may of been the one to help you, not so sure he would now?12:28
juanejBlissex,  SyncMater 551c 15' 800x60012:28
iapx8088lJlolel, date12:28
juaneji already add DisplaySize211158 to the xorg.conf12:28
mach1ne./ns help register12:28
Blissexjuanej: that _may_ be a 72 DPI display.12:28
juanejbut it doesnt seem to help12:29
juanejBlissex, its already at 7212:29
seliniumKromonos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and follow the instructions.12:29
Blissexmach1ne: type "/msg NickServe help register"12:29
Kromonosselinium: i made this twenty times12:29
EasterSunshineKromonos: ah good point. and if you are in a console outside x, the resolution is actually 740x40012:29
dalamar-e12:29
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icewtanyone happen to know if there are xmms2 packages for ubuntu somewhere?12:29
smhi.. how can I make sudo remember my password for longer ?12:29
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Blissexjuanej: thats the point I was making -- 72 might be the right resolution. Wait a sec for me to check.12:30
juanejbrb, gonna see whats gnome dpi12:30
lJloleliapx8088, thanks!12:30
seliniumGood night all12:30
dalamaricewt, doubt it, xmms's website says its not at a state for public use yet even12:30
lJlolelthats perfect12:30
Blissexjuanej: BTW, why aren't you running it at 1024x768? That should be possible, if a little blurrier.12:30
Kromonosi couldn't get into a console outside x :( alt f1 ... aren't working too12:30
seliniumquit12:30
yathstay12:30
dalamarctrl + alt + f1?12:30
Kromonosnothin is working correctly with this fucking intel brookdale + xorg12:31
Kromonos*argh*12:31
Kromonosdalamar: doesn't work12:31
dalamarhm12:31
dalamarjust making sure you had the ctrl part ;)12:31
Kromonosand if i use vesa instead of i810 i just see a black screen after restarting x12:32
Crepusculoi dont obtain to mount a second HD thats in VFAT, my kernel is 2.6.10-5-386. would have as to reconfigure it?12:32
BlissexKromonos: that's very odd indeed. the 'vesa' driver should work with practically anything.12:32
Kromonosif i restart my laptop and x boots with vesa it works12:32
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Kromonosyes vesa works, as long as i don't close the lit or logoff the user12:32
juanejhehe12:33
juaneji just started gnome12:33
juanejand go back to xfce and it works12:33
icewtdalamar, well, there are packages for some distributions anyway12:33
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dalamaricewt, *shrug* I dont really know why its worth messing with if they say its not at a level for public use12:33
juanejgoing to reboot to see if it keeps that way12:33
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dalamarunless your looking to do devel on it12:34
icewtdalamar, because they need people to test it? and because i'm curious?-)12:34
dalamarwhy dont you compile it then? surely they offer the source12:34
jchicohow can I use Ubuntu with different WMs?12:35
EasterSunshinejchico: have you tried installing different wms?12:35
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icewtdalamar, i was just asking if there happens to be packages, don't start a fight with me because of that ;)12:35
EasterSunshinejchico: which wm do you want?12:35
Kromonosso, i will now activate vesa. but i'm sure, i'll get a black screen after restarting gdm without restarting my laptop12:35
jchicoaccording that the package manaer I already have one, it's the Window Maker12:36
Blissexjchico: depends; try 'xinit' and then type in the command to start the WM you want.12:36
dalamaruh im not, im giving you a solution12:36
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icewtdalamar, your first comments don't look like that12:36
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juanejnow it works perfect12:36
juanejthx very much12:36
icewtdalamar, i know i can compile it, but thanks anyway12:36
dalamarheh ooookay ...12:37
eliphas_I have a question how to disable ubuntu to boot directly into graphical environenemnt a start12:37
eliphas_? please12:37
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yatheliphas_: you want to login in the console?12:40
adjacenteliphas_: dont start gdm at boot12:40
yathchmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm12:40
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eliphas_that's all?12:41
eliphas_there is not a level to change some1 told me12:41
adjacenteliphas_: you could make it more complicated if you want12:41
yathchanging the runlevel is too drastic.12:41
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eliphas_but maybe is taht something to know?12:42
yatheliphas_: Ubuntu doesn't use runlevels that way.12:42
eliphas_ah ok12:43
yathThat advice might apply to Slackware12:43
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eliphas_tahnks for the tip adjacent and yath12:43
adjacenteliphas_: you could also remove or edit the links in each /etc/rc#.d/ dir12:43
nadjylahello12:43
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eliphas_adjacent lol sounds too complicated already now you said it12:43
eliphas_lol12:43
adjacentthere is a tool to auto config those though (or at least debian had one)12:44
yathupdate-rc.d12:44
adjacentthats it =)12:44
yathi prefer chmod tho12:44
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topylisysv-rc-conf is another, very easy tool12:45
DekaPinkOoooh. Clams.12:45
darkheartDekaPink Are you talking about e17?12:45
yathheh12:45
DekaPinkClams + e17 = love?12:45
DekaPinkUmm... Yes? :312:45
damskohow can i configure the screenshot program?12:46
topyliit's too pretty even :)12:46
darkheartDekaPink lol sorry, I looked at your post then turned to do something and forgot what I read.12:46
uthinidoing stuff brb12:46
yathdamsko: why?12:47
darkheartDekaPink There are repos that people have put up for e17 packages.12:47
DekaPinkxD No worries, darkheart12:47
topylidamsko: you can take a screenshot anyitime12:47
DekaPinkhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59568 <- I just saw this Howto and it sparked my interest.12:47
damskois there an option to not open a window asking me to save or cancel it?12:47
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DekaPinkThough I'm pretty comfortable in gnome, now... So... Heh, I don't know.12:48
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actarushello everybody12:48
yathdamsko: oh, you want it instantly?12:48
damskoor another screenshot program that doesnt asks12:48
damskoyes12:48
eliphas_I have a frie he just installed ubuntu on a windows/linux system he got a grub error 2112:48
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darkheartDekaPink Then e17 is probably not for you. That thread talks about using raster's get_e.sh script to download/compile/install e17. It is easy, but no easy way to remove things. You should add a repo that will install packages that you can uninstall easily.12:49
Kromonosso, intel driver and my keyboard are working right12:49
Kromonosbut i just get a resolution of 640x48012:49
Kromonos*argh*12:49
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darkheartDekaPink That way you can just try it out, then remove it if you want. If you are comfortable in gnome, then e17 will be a little painful. Since it's still under development, customization isn't too easy.12:49
actaruswho help me to install virtual machine for linux12:50
actarusI've VM512:50
DekaPinkdarkheart: Okay, thanks for the advice. :)12:50
yathdamsko: dunno12:50
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paulproteusactarus: qemu ?12:50
paulproteusactarus: aptitude install qemu12:51
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damskothank you anyway12:51
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actarusok I've done12:52
adjacentyikes, ubuntu just got me. i screwed up and did usermod -G blah user, and now it says user isnt in /etc/sudoers...12:52
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Kromonoswhat is dri?12:52
adjacenthow do i get back in sudoers12:52
Deededhey i wanna burn a copy of ubuntu. I downloaded the live verson. I wanna burn to boot but i found no iso file to burn the imamge. How do i burn it so it wil boot?12:52
actarusthank you12:52
yathDeeded: what did you download?12:53
steven__is there any way to know if somebody logs in into the box? Like if i am root, can i make a script to output a message?12:53
DeededUbuntu 5.0412:53
Deededlive12:53
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yathDeeded: what file I mean12:53
darkheartsteven__ There a few commands I think...You can try typing 'w' in the console.12:53
Deededubuntu-5.04-live-i38612:53
darkheartsteven__ You can try 'who' also.12:53
Deededit came down as a rar12:54
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eejit2change the ext to iso12:54
kevin__Is there a script on the hoary live cd to install to HD like there is on knoppix?12:54
yathDeeded: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso ??12:54
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DeededI'll try that12:55
eejit2Deeded, you mind finding out what the filesize is?12:55
darkheartadjacent Do you have access to sudo?12:55
adjacentdarkheart: nope12:55
yathwhere would you get a rar of the live CD I wonder.12:55
Deeded62412:55
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Deededmbs12:55
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CookedGryphonadjacent, y can't u log in as root and fix it?>12:56
Deededon your site12:56
eejit2Deeded, try changing the extension to iso.12:56
steven__darkheart:yea i know, but how could i make a script that if somebody logs in, it outputs a message12:56
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yathDeeded: what is the url you got it from?12:56
adjacentCookedGryphon: do you even use ubuntu?12:56
adjacentroot account is disabled by dfault12:56
adjacentsudo provides access12:56
darkheartadjacent Mine isn't12:56
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ghatakhi, i want to keep an eye on how much  data per month is being downloaded on my dsl connection, n e way to do that?12:57
Deededthink that might have worked12:57
Deededk just sec12:57
adjacenti never set a root password...12:57
CookedGryphonadjacent, i do use ubuntu, and i use root12:57
eejit2ghatak, usually your ISP will provide a service.12:57
Deededhttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/12:57
CookedGryphonadjacent, use the recovery mode on the boot cd12:57
darkheartsteven__ Yeah, you can do that. I'm not really sure where to put the code though =\ On OpenBSD if you are logged into a terminal as root, it will display messages like that on the screen.12:57
ghatakeejit2: that is the problem, they dont12:57
CookedGryphoni think i broke root12:57
adjacentdamn, i was afraid of that12:57
adjacentoh well.12:58
CookedGryphoni kept trying to log in as root n eventually it jsut let me in neway12:58
CookedGryphoni used my user password in the end n it let me log in as root12:58
eejit2you realise there's a reason why you shouldn't always log in as root?12:58
darkheartI set up root password in expert install.12:58
CookedGryphonyeah12:59
CookedGryphoni only log in n su when i need to do rooty things12:59
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CookedGryphonwhat do u do for ure root password when synaptic n things ask 4 it then?12:59
adjacentCookedGryphon: you use only sudo01:00
adjacentsudo -s for a root sheel01:00
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steven__darkheart: well i will need to think how would i make that script01:00
CookedGryphonadjacent, i use su myself, can't b bothered typing sudo if i need to do lots of things01:00
CookedGryphonbut sudo asks me for a password01:01
Jet2k5anyone here successfully installed the nforce4 drivers on ubuntu?01:01
darkheartCookedGryphon You can set sudo up not to ask for your password.01:01
adjacentCookedGryphon: sudo takes the user password01:01
CookedGryphoncool01:02
damskosomeone knows if there is a screenshot program that doesnt ask to save or cancel?01:02
CookedGryphonah, makes sense01:02
CookedGryphonbut i never use it neway01:02
adjacentCookedGryphon: yeh, it took me a while to come around to, but i really like it now01:02
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adjacentsorry for being a dick earlier ;)01:02
nakatasorry for being a harry earlier :/01:03
nakatabtw, where's tom?01:03
nakata<301:03
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tom__happy?01:03
tom__eh?01:03
tom__ah too soon01:03
nakatathere we are01:04
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diensthunds-_hey are any packagers in here?01:05
durtive got quite a package01:06
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damskosomeone knows if there is a screenshot program that doesnt ask to save or cancel?01:06
damsko:(01:06
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eejit2have you tried print screen?01:06
diensthunds-_funny durt but I need to fix a postinst problem with a .deb I made01:06
damskonut it ask for save it01:06
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svuis there any repository with libsvg-cairo?01:06
naliothdamned OSX01:07
robotgeeknalioth: :)01:07
robotgeeknalioth: why?01:07
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diensthunds-_I removed the postinit from the debian/ folder but still get a subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 201:08
naliothrobotgeek: i dual boot, and OSX just took a dump on me. diskwarrior reported "too much filesystem damage to repair" (call all$oft for more repair options)01:08
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diensthunds-_dam nalioth that has to suck01:08
cafuegonalioth: ouch. no luck with witk util either?01:08
naliothOSX is not my primary system01:08
robotgeeknalioth: okay, so the apple boot disk must not have worked,i presume!01:08
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naliothrobotgeek: that was first in line, and it "repaired" stuff, but not what was terribly damgd01:09
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raphaHi all!01:09
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Fingolfinnnalioth: i managed to fix my comp :)01:09
naliothdoesnt matter, was mounting the OSX hfsplus partition for more space on linux, i'll just move it to another HD01:09
robotgeeknalioth: maybe it's a sign from the Ubuntu god, to move to ubuntu, and bless the OS X hdd with holy linux pee?01:09
cafuegonalioth: How are you using that OSX partition under Linux?01:09
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naliothcafuego: automounted via fstab01:10
newborncan someone help me get my soundcard working? im noob01:10
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naliothcafuego: symlinked a dedicated 'linux' folder into my linux $HOMEDIR01:10
jchicowhat soundcard is it?01:10
robotgeeknalioth: i was doing that too, till it crashed on me too. and then, i moved to ubuntu completely. sounds like a pattern :)01:10
diensthunds-_mmmm perhaps I need to find a developers node01:10
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newbornjchico, its a hercules game theatre XP - it uses the cs46xx driver for alsa01:11
newbornbut it doesnt seem to work01:11
cafuegonalioth: won't mount (at all) under Linux anymore?01:11
naliothrobotgeek: i'm almost to that point01:11
robotgeek:)01:11
jchiconewborn: it detects it, it just doesn't play anything?01:11
naliothcafuego: it mounts, but with i/o errors if i try to write to it01:11
haakonni set my xorg resolution too low when i installed kubuntu, how can i increase it?01:11
cafuegonalioth: *nod* But in theory you can at least copy data *off* it?01:12
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newbornjchico, im assuming so - how can I tell if it was detected properly?01:12
robotgeeknalioth: backup your data and format :(01:12
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naliothcafuego: am attempting that right now01:12
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diensthunds-_well I"m off to figure01:12
raphaDoes somebody know how to build a software package using autotools?01:12
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cafuegonalioth: .. and here's how to suck an egg ;-)01:12
mach4hello everyone01:12
muffin_help! cant use keyboard in cedega!01:12
Fingolfinnnalioth: i have the ability to use Bash now in terminal01:13
jchiconewborn, well the speaker icon should be in your panel01:13
newbornyeah, ive got a speaker icon01:13
naliothrobotgeek: my thoughts exactly *but may just leave osx off of it01:13
CookedGryphonare your speakers plugged in?01:13
jchicoright click on it and open up volume control01:13
newborndone01:13
jchicowhat do you see?01:13
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newbornPCM and speaker are both at about 75%01:14
robotgeeknalioth: as long as got everthing working under linux , i don't see why not01:14
newbornthat was the first thing i checked =)01:14
mach4hoping someone can answer me a very quick question. I have an amd64 cpu, should I get 64 bit version of Ubuntu or will I have compatibility issues with certain drivers, programs?01:14
naliothFingolfinn: great01:14
CookedGryphonmach4, some media players ahve trouble with 64bit version01:14
mach4but the 32 bit version should work fine on my cpu, just like windows xp 32 bit does, right?01:15
cafuegomach4: Will you be using java and flash on websites, or watch xvid or divx video or encrypted dvds?01:15
nalioththis is sucking01:15
Fingolfinnnalioth: what was the applicable command you had said to run? it was something -l01:15
CookedGryphonas far as i know01:15
monkey_Is there some sort of super tweek to get ATI9700 driver to work in Ubuntu?01:15
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mach4thanks01:15
saintFrancehow come i cant write on the hard drives/files that i have mounted?01:15
CookedGryphonnp, that's probs the first useful advice i've been able to give in here01:16
jchiconewborn, have you gone to System > Preference > Multimedia System Selector?01:16
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cafuegosaintFrance: no permission? mounted re-adonly?01:16
newbornno, i will now01:16
saintFranceso how do i put permission or make it un-read only?01:16
cafuegosaintFrance: No idea. What fs is it? Where on it are you trying to write to?01:16
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osityanyone know how i can start a degraded array??01:17
saintFrancei have 2 hard drives01:17
newbornjchico, its on ESD.. if i change it to alsa and try and test i get 'failed to construct test pipeline for alsa'01:17
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saintFranceand my 2nd one i mounted so i can see my files01:17
saintFrancebut i cant write on it01:17
muffin_help! keyboard stays in system instead of changing to cedega. (if i type stuff, i can see it in console afterwards, instead of cedega)01:17
hardw1retry: /etc/fstab01:17
cafuegosaintFrance: is it NTFS?01:17
saintFrancei believe so01:17
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CookedGryphonsaintFrance, what type of filesystem is it?01:17
cafuegosaintFrance: You can't write to that.01:17
saintFranceahh i see01:17
cafuegosaintFrance: (as in ever)01:17
saintFrancei see01:18
hardw1reNTFS can only be mounted in read-only01:18
hardw1rewriting to ntfs is too complex for linux at this time01:18
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CookedGryphonunless u download some risky packages01:18
CookedGryphonthat could mess up ure whole hdd01:18
saintFranceso what file system should i make it then?01:18
jchiconewborn, must be your drivers then, did you pick that yourself or Ubuntu?01:18
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adjacentyou can write into ntfs, but its very limited01:18
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naliothwell folks01:19
CookedGryphonsaintFrance, you cna't convert it unless its blank01:19
naliothtime for a total systemic reinstall (bye bye data)01:19
ositygotta go ....sorry01:19
CookedGryphonfrom ntfs that is01:19
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saintFranceyah ill just erase all my media in it01:19
eliphas_!ubuntu01:19
ubotuI guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards01:19
newbornubuntu picked something which didnt work, then i started playing around with picking it myself, probably not well01:19
saintFrancei just have some anime in it01:19
saintFranceahha01:19
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newbornill try rebooting incase ive got some stupid modules loaded, brb01:20
CookedGryphonsaintFrance, reformat it as ext2 if its just gna b used in linux, or fat32 if u want to use it in woindows too01:20
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saintFrancealright so fat32 so it can be both linux and windows?01:20
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saintFrancegotcha01:20
saintFrancethank you01:21
drewfuscan anyone suggest a good graphics card they know works well with ubuntu01:21
HrdwrBoBdrewfus: 6600GT01:21
sjgdrewfus, nvidia based :P01:21
tristanmikedrewfus, pretty much anything from nvidia01:21
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CookedGryphondrewfus, i have nvidia Geforce FX5200, works well, ace card01:21
tristanmikehow much is the 6600GT?01:21
drewfuswhat about others that use nvidia technology01:21
saintFrance15001:21
drewfuslike bfg01:21
sjgI unfortunately currently have a ati based card and it does work as well.01:22
tristanmikeMe too on the FX5200, no complaints here either01:22
saintFrance$150 around that area01:22
jchicoi got a GeForce 6800 GT, works good.01:22
saintFrance6800gt = 30001:22
saintFranceahha01:22
sjgdrewfus, the branded nvidia cards works just fine01:22
jchicohehe :D01:22
HrdwrBoBtristanmike: cheap as01:22
drewfusdoes the 6600gt support dual monitor?01:22
saintFrancejchico: i want one!!!01:22
tristanmikeUSD??01:22
yaru22where can I download movie codecs ?01:22
HrdwrBoB!restrictedformats01:22
ubotusomebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'01:22
saintFrancewhat is another good messenger for linux? besides gaim? are there any other?01:23
drewfusis it pci or agp01:23
saintFranceboth01:23
saintFranceu can get it for both01:23
drewfussweet well im off to get it or one like it01:23
drewfusthanks01:23
saintFranceahh!!01:23
saintFrancewanna get me one too?01:23
saintFrancelol01:23
drewfussure just transfer me the money01:23
drewfusand a little extra01:23
drewfusyou know... gas01:23
saintFranceu know my b-day is about to come up.. *nudge nudge&01:23
drewfus:-)01:23
saintFrance:(01:24
saintFrancehaha01:24
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drewfusthanks, ill talk to you guys later01:24
naliothi am so screwed01:24
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naliothfirewire target disk mode isnt seein my primary HD on the stricken machine01:24
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saintFranceouch01:24
CookedGryphonsounds nasty01:25
ViziriI've spent the last few hours  trying to get connected to the net. I followed instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44763&page=1&pp=10&highlight=330 and think i'm missing something really obvious. i've done a 'ipconfig' 'route' and "tail -f /var/log/syslog" - anyone mind quickly checking my results?01:25
CookedGryphonthink that's the extent of the advice ure gna get01:25
saintFrancehow do you run windows on linux/01:25
qatsiok, i need to know of a filesystem which can be writen by linux and windows.....ntfs isnt writable with linux, fut ive heard about fat32 or something like that.....this is because i need a partition for info switching from win to linux....any idea ?01:25
CookedGryphonwow Viziri , i jsut put the modem applet on my panel n it worked01:25
CookedGryphonqatsi, fat32 works01:26
naliothqatsi: fat32 if you aint writing any files over 4gb in size (dvd iso images, for instance)01:26
CookedGryphonits the older windows filesystem01:26
CookedGryphonbut linux can write to it no problem01:26
qatsigreat !........01:26
Viziri?01:26
qatsiahh nope, the partition type will be 1gb, so i cant do that :p01:26
newbornjchico, ok, now i *sort of* have sound =)01:26
qatsithanx for the info !...01:26
naliothqatsi: huh?01:27
jchiconewborn, hehe how so?01:27
naliothfat32 has a "FILESIZE" limit of 4gb, not a partition size limit01:27
saintFrance4 gb each file?01:27
newbornjchico, well im getting sound but its really bad quality..01:27
adjacentok. ive made progress with my sound card. i moved it to another PCI slot, and now it is properly recognized by alsamixer, but the volume control app in gnome now says no audio device/controls found. am i missing a step?01:27
naliothsaintFrance: with fat32 you cant write an individual file over 4gb in size01:28
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saintFrancei see01:28
CookedGryphonnewborn, what r u playing the sound with?01:28
jchiconewborn, I think that might be the soundcard's fault here's some info if it helps: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Hercules#matrix01:28
Blissexnalioth: even worse: the limit is really 2GB.01:28
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jchicoit says that " (1) Output always resampled to 48khz."01:29
naliothBlissex: 2gb, 4gb, cant write dvd images to it01:29
newborni had it working when i had gentoo installed01:29
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Blissexnalioth: 8cm DVD images :-) (1.3GB)01:29
CookedGryphonnewborn, i found that a lot of media players either went really slow or sounded really low bitrate, beep-media-player seems to work best tho, i've tried like 501:29
newbornCookedGryphon, just playing a cd with the included cd player01:29
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naliothblasted brand new powermac already bodgered01:29
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BlissexCookedGryphon: sound system issue probably, look at troubleshooting and quality sections of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk201:30
saintFrancehey for all you linux only people.. how do you play video games?01:30
cafuegonalioth: Just send it to me, I'll send you the athlonxp.01:30
saintFrancelol01:30
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jchicosaintFrance: get a console01:30
saintFrancehahaa01:30
naliothcafuego: Athlon64x2?01:30
sjgagreed01:30
sjgconsole :P01:30
jchicoi like my xbox. :>01:30
saintFrancebah my ps2 is mean01:30
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saintFrancewait so is there a way to play windows games in linux?01:30
CookedGryphoni odn't play games much01:30
CookedGryphonsome, with wine01:31
nophixsaintFrance: www.transgaming.com01:31
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naliothcafuego: wonder if disk utility would work on a f/w mounted volume? (with my luck, it'd bodger my good machine)01:31
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Vizirican anyone take a look at my ipconfig results and tell me what's wrong? - only a few lines01:32
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CookedGryphonViziri, that's what #flood is 401:32
CookedGryphonor pastebin01:32
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thenukeViziri: try pasting them into pastebin01:32
htaccesshi im trying to compile something and im getting an error when i run make: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpq collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" how can i fix this?01:32
newborni think i might have screwed things up a bit installing a newer alsa.. any way to undo that damage? =)01:33
adjacentnewborn: at least you have sound =)01:33
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newbornit hurts to listen to though..01:33
adjacentfor me, running esd just sits there doing nothing, and my audio device seems to be invisible to everything _but_ alsa01:33
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CookedGryphonnewborn, have u tried all the different sound thingys?01:34
newbornnope01:34
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CookedGryphonif u think its alsa that's screwed, change to OSS or somethign01:34
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kemikawh :( new wine doesnt run Expekt pokerclient :(01:35
CookedGryphonsystem -> preferences -> multimedia system selector01:35
cafuegowhat's the facination with poker anyway?01:35
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kemikcafuego:  you earn money.. :)01:36
eliphas_yo01:36
Mekzayo01:36
kemikcafuego:  if you play it right that is01:36
Mekza:)01:36
kemikearn/win01:36
newbornchanging to OSS doesnt do anything01:36
cafuegofrom what I've seen on tv the idea is to lose all dress-sense and wear bad sunglasses01:36
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newbornim going to reboot and check that my onboard sound is definitely disabled01:36
kemikcafuego:  hehe.. well.. true dat ;)01:36
CookedGryphonpoker's all about drinking whiskey, from a bottle, with a straw, and jazz... at least in my experience01:37
Viziriok - pasted it here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/162201:37
adjacentxit01:37
kemikcafuego:  but i've managed to win a few hundreds of $ and its fun to play :) so i want to get a client running in linux01:37
kemikso i wont' have *any* reason to dualboot01:37
adjacentkemik: vmware is your best friend01:37
kemikCookedGryphon:  homegames are nice01:37
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kemikadjacent:  won't that actually run windows from linux?01:38
adjacentkemik: yep01:38
cafuegokemik: Yes, best way to run windows apps.01:38
kemikwell.. wine would be a sexier solution ;)01:38
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kemikbut maybe i'll have to use vmware.. how much overhead isit by running 2 OS's? 10% ?01:39
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chiwhats with java not being available anymore>?01:39
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CookedGryphonu can get jaa from Seveas' repository01:39
CookedGryphonjava*01:39
kemikchi:  im not sure, someone said it was temp. broken 2days ago... but it seems odd that it's not fixed... license issues?01:39
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Decker|Laptop|Zzsup all :)01:39
CookedGryphonor from www.java.com, but i got told off 4 tellin sum1 that yesterday, even tho i did n it works01:39
dalamari heard it has been taken out of extras period01:39
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kemikadjacent, cafuego; know how much overhead there is running windows with vmware ?01:40
cafuegochi: You can always build jre/jdk from the .bin from sun.01:40
newbornyay!01:40
tristanmikewhy would it be taken out?01:40
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adjacenti say use java.com too, then things look the same on every distro01:40
cafuegokemik: a fair bit; but then again: if you run win98 or soemthing, it'll still be snappy.01:40
newbornonboard el-crappy audio wasnt disabled.. turned it off in bios and everything sound sweet now01:40
newbornthanks guys01:40
adjacentkemik: no idea, i havent had to use vmware for ages01:40
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kemik*shudder* win98 .. the pain of rebooting01:40
ginventsnappy...01:40
newbornthe next thing i'll need a lot of help with: getting my DVB card to work ;)01:41
cafuegono point running XP Pro in vmware JUST for a poker client01:41
Dragonhm has anyone tried Gnome Power Manager?01:41
CookedGryphonwho wanted java package?01:41
ViziriHi - i've pasted my ifconfig result here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1622 - could anyone see if there is something obvious i should to to correct the problem?01:41
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kemikcafuego:  well, to identify my hardware etc it'll be hell using win9801:41
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kemikViziri:  there's no NIC configured01:42
dalamarwin98 and on board stuff dont like to talk in my experience01:42
Viziriah01:42
kemikViziri:  what are you trying to do? isit a WLAN card ?01:42
Vizirino - it's a speedtouch ADSL mdem (330)01:42
kemiki'll install my new 1gb ram tomorrow and maybe give vmware/xp a shot... maybe01:43
ViziriI followed instructions here perfectly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44763&page=1&pp=10&highlight=33001:43
cafuegokemik: to identify the hardware? in vmware?01:43
kemikViziri:  ok, so the modem is connected to a ethernet card right ?01:43
cafuegokemik: the vmware helpfile tells you *exactly* what it is.01:43
adjacentkemik: i had really good results with win2k01:43
cafuego(and yes, it's all outright suppoted)01:43
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kemikcafuego:  maybe i should readup on vmware ;) i though win98 still did the hardware detection etc..01:43
Vizirino ke01:43
Vizirikemik*01:44
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_SWAT_kemik, let me know about the perfomance you'll get from WinXP (on VMware :D)01:44
kemik_SWAT_:  i'll do some research on vmware first ;)01:44
kemiknever used it01:44
cafuegokemik: yes, but all it can detect is the hardware that's emulated by vmware, which is an intel ide controller, some dec eth chip.... etc.01:44
kemikViziri:  so where do you plug the cable from the modem in your computer?01:44
_SWAT_kemik, VMware emulates an entire pc (more or less)01:44
_SWAT_kemik, got a 3500+ here with 2048 of RAM. That should suffice :)01:45
Viziriit's USB modem kemik01:45
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adjacentargh. this is obnoxious. everything shows my sound card, but i cant get any sounds!01:45
kemik_SWAT_:  that system is lots-a-more hardcore than my 2year old baby ;) (2500+ 1gb)01:45
adjacentwhat good is 250G of music if you cant hear it ;)01:46
kemikViziri:  oh, they come as USB devices now..01:46
_SWAT_kemik, that should also suffice :). I've even got WinXP working on a 350Mhz 128MB SDRAM computer :D01:46
CookedGryphonadjacent, i bet u broke it on purpose to brag about it01:46
tristanmikelol01:46
kemikViziri:  cant help then..01:46
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adjacentCookedGryphon: i wish01:47
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ViziriIt's driving me nuts. I've followed 3 different tutorials and no luck01:47
CookedGryphonadjacent, tell u what, post ure hdd to me, n i'l llisten to ure music, that way at least its getting used01:47
kemik_SWAT_:  mmh, i installed Ubuntu on a p2-233 64mb system.. but oh isit slow.. takes >5minutes to boot and login to X01:47
_SWAT_kemik, were you running Gnome?01:47
kemikViziri:  well it's some weird hardware ;) how does it behave in windows?01:48
kemik_SWAT_:  yeah! ;)01:48
adjacentCookedGryphon: haha =) mail me a HD and ill load it up for you01:48
_SWAT_kemik, that's it. Just use flluxbox/openbox/enlightenment (much easier on the hardwar)01:48
Viziriit behaves perfectly kemik  - and i think it's a popular model, particuarly in UK01:48
CookedGryphonadjacent, .. interesting.... what kinda music r u into?01:48
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kemik_SWAT_:  i tried IceWm, but figuring it's my parents computer i couldnt leave them with a system that didnt autodiscover their USB-printer and camera01:48
kemik_SWAT_:  i also tried xfce401:48
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osityanyone know a bit about raid 101:49
_SWAT_kemik, right. For non-techies it's uhh... difficult01:49
kemikto say the least.. they find gnome a bit scary sooo01:49
_SWAT_osity, no, what is raid 1? ;-) :-P01:49
kemikosity:  isnt that mirroring ?01:49
codecainestripe01:49
codecaineor mirror?01:49
kemik0 is tripe01:49
codecainemirror01:49
ositymirror01:50
adjacentCookedGryphon: a fairly wide variety, lots of jam stuff and classic rock01:50
_SWAT_kemik, just buy a low-budget pc.... an old AMD system or something :)01:50
remyforbes777anyone using ubuntu 64 bit01:50
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CookedGryphonclassic rock i like01:50
CookedGryphonjam i like01:50
Viziriit's a pain going back and forth (rebooting) from xp (to use net)  to ubuntu to try new tutorial installation guides for this modem. Is there a easier way - is there a way to access ubuntu desktop on windows xp?01:50
CookedGryphonnot sure if i like jam music01:50
kemik_SWAT_:  yeah that's what i'm looking for.. something in the 150-dollar range should suffice01:50
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kemikP3-500mhz or something01:50
osityi had it working and then i unplugged a drive to test and it worked...but now it's plugged in and it says "active raid [2/1]  [u_] 01:50
codecaineyeah using vmware, xen or maybe even that emu loader program01:51
kemikViziri:  not really.. that'd involve using vmware etc01:51
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naliothremyforbes777: i am on my powermac01:51
kemikViziri:  and i dont think that's what you really want01:51
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CookedGryphonadjacent, i'm having to filter my music down to my fave 30 GB neway to take to uni on my laptop01:51
_SWAT_I mean.. just use the old pc case, cd/dvd drives, disk drive, hdd, graphics card, soundcard and NIC (if possible). Then you'll only need mobo/cpu/ram (or if the old ram fits... ) :-D01:51
codecaineQEMU will work for booting iso images too which is neat01:51
_SWAT_kemik, that was ment for you :D01:52
kemik_SWAT_:  no-can do.. it's a stupid Compaq01:52
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Viziriif i have the moden running on windows xp, will i be able to install firmware for it at the same time in linux? i'm not sure if it can handle 2 tasks at the ame time01:52
adjacentCookedGryphon: get a seagate 200G for cheap and an external fw/usb case01:52
kemik_SWAT_:  and you know what compaq and all other Brand-name PC's are... -EVIL01:52
_SWAT_kemik, ouch..... yeah... they're bitches allright01:52
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Viziriassuming i use vmware ^^01:52
_SWAT_kemik, just build your own :) (from spare parts or something)01:52
kemikbut they got it so damn cheap back in .98 ;)01:52
naliothadjacent: you are so behind the times, the new hotness is external SATA drives01:52
adjacentnalioth: i um with the times, just not with the $$ flow01:53
kemik_SWAT_:  mmh.. but i'm out of spare parts.. all i got is 512mb ddr-ram ;)01:53
_SWAT_kemik, I've got uhh..6 PC's up here. 1 = mine, 1= parents, 1= my server, 3 = ... don't know yet. At least spare parts :D01:53
CookedGryphoni have a budget of 300 for my laptop01:53
CookedGryphoni'm a student for chrissake01:53
kemik_SWAT_:  sort of like i used to have01:53
kemik_SWAT_:  but 2 were p166mmx's so i donated them01:54
CookedGryphon*think* i'm getting value 4 money, thinkpad 1.5ghz, 256 ram, wireless lan, etc for 30001:54
kemiknow i got my desktop, a server and a p2-233 laptop using debian/icewm... ;)01:54
_SWAT_it's 200Mhz, 166Mhz, 133Mhz01:54
Viziriwhere u getting that CookedGryphon ?01:54
CookedGryphonbrand new, n with winXP (spit) pre-installed which probs bumps the price up :(01:54
_SWAT_kemik, always good for a server of somekind01:54
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CookedGryphonaha, i ahve a mate who works 4 siemens n can get em uber cheap01:55
_SWAT_well, I'm going to bed know (school awaits in a few hours).01:55
kemik_SWAT_:  well, i used to live in a dorm so i really didnt need 5computers around ;)01:55
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kemikgnite01:55
Vizirithat's not fair, i could do with a 300 laptop with those specs01:55
tristanmikeI heard if you buy a laptop from dell, I can't put Ubuntu from it because of the disks they supply, is this true?01:55
kemiktristanmike:  is sounds like bollox01:55
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naliothtristanmike: you can put ubuntu on almost anything01:56
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tristanmikekemik, probably, I don''t know01:56
CookedGryphonu can put ubuntu on toast if u want01:56
tristanmikemmmmm ubuntu on toast01:56
chiamarok wont install either01:56
tristanmikeThey said that i have to put the os they provide01:56
naliothtristanmike: in fact, if it werent for m$ holding the fear of financial reprocussions over Dells head, theyd sell linux on their machines already01:56
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plonkerhello01:57
kemikMichael Dell said something about wanting to offer Linux as an OS too i think01:57
kemikin some article/interview01:57
Dragona.. has anyone tried Gnome Power Manager 0.1?01:57
tristanmikeso it isn't anything like their BIOS is locked off, or anything01:57
kemiktristanmike:  sounds highly unlikely01:57
tristanmikeok, I want to get one in the next couple of months and I wanna get a high end one, but not if I can't put Ubuntu on :)01:58
tristanmikethanx01:58
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Viziriok ok - i think i've probably tried one too many tutorials trying to install this modem and probably jumbled up configs. Is there a quickfire way to revert to original ubuntu setup (equivalent to reinstalling a seeing ubuntu first time) without having to reinstall?01:58
neelsdoes anyone know how to enable cpu frequency scaling on ubuntu amd6401:58
neels?01:58
kemiktristanmike:  if it's a desktop i'd recommend you to build your own..01:59
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remyforbes777anyone using ubunut 64 bit01:59
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kemikViziri:  can't say that i know how... what's the issue now? somethings not working at all ?01:59
nakataubunut, heh..02:00
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nakataobento!02:00
tristanmikekemik, no, not a desktop, if it were, I'd definiativly would build my own, kinda like the self built one I have now and gave me NO problems with Ubuntu ;)02:00
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Vizirisame issue - i'm just frustrated that nothing has helped and i've wasted soooo many hours trying :902:00
kemikViziri:  i know that feeling ;)02:00
tristanmikekemik, like an alienware or something would be nice02:00
CookedGryphonwhat modem type is it?02:00
karljpis http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ now an official place to get backports? or is there a better place?02:00
oceandeadoverpriced imo02:00
kemiktristanmike:  aint alienware ridiculously expensive?02:01
Vizirispeedtouch 330 adsl usb (silver)02:01
kemik!backports02:01
ubotubackports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section02:01
kemiko crap.. someone changed it...02:01
kemik!hoary-backports02:01
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, kemik02:01
tristanmikekemik, i was looking at some laptops and they were somewhat comperable to dells, a little more pricey but i like the case02:01
CookedGryphonhmm, i jsut ahve dialup modem n it just worked02:01
kemiktristanmike:  looks before functionality... -apple! ;) j/k02:02
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tristanmikekemik, touche02:02
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dalamarmy homebuilt desktop gave me no probs with ubnutu either, -everything- worked out of the box ;)02:02
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tristanmikeI was looking at "linux laptops" like laptops sold with linux and they were like 4 grand US, I couldn't believe it02:03
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oceandeadpsscht02:03
cafuegotristanmike: I believe Ubuntu has a laptop program with HP laptops. Find out which model and check the HP site :-)02:04
Viziriok - i'm reinstalling :(. I give it one more go, and if it messes up again i give up like i did with Mandrake....  and then go back to windows. The force is always pulling newbies back to windows....02:04
karljpkemik, what were you hoping the !backports trigger would itell me?02:04
dalamarlaptops are over-rated, im sorry ... too picky and too much generic shit built into them02:04
tristanmikecafuego, will do02:04
tristanmikethanx02:04
cafuegotristanmike: (Mine's an nx9005, which runs Ubuntu just dandy  -it IS about 3 years old, though)02:04
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karljppick a mirror from backports.ubuntuforums.org and knock myself out?02:04
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kemikViziri:  http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net/ <-- tried that ?02:05
dalamarthe day you can build a lappie like a desktop will be the coolest thing ever02:05
cjhapzlhello guys02:05
oceandeadyou can02:05
cafuegodalamar: the manufacturers will never let you eat their margin like that02:05
dalamarnot small and nice and cool  though02:05
oceandeadjust more of a pita02:05
Vizirikemik: that was the first thing i tried. Many people are having problems with that02:05
kemikkarljp:  that Backports are now official ;)02:05
oceandeadoh you can buy laptop components and put it together yourself02:06
kemikViziri:  mmh, M$ really has the plug'n'play edge02:06
oceandeadbut you dont save  all that much money and its more of a pain02:06
kemikoceandead:  well i'd hardly recommend that tho02:06
Viziriyeah :( ...  my ISP supply it free with new customers02:06
Vizirito*02:06
karljpso does that mean they're now a repository on [country] .archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports ?02:06
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kemikwhen it comes to laptops i'm sticking with brand-names.. due to quality issues02:06
dalamaroceandead, exactly, hardly close to building a desktop machine02:07
kemikhad a non-brand laptop and everthing broke init02:07
cafuegoViziri: Just coz it's free from the ISP doesn't mean you can't run your own, self-bought, ethernet dsl modem instead.02:07
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dalamarbrand names are key in everything, even desktop heh02:07
oceandeaddalamar: for sure not the same - i was just saying you can if you really want to02:07
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dalamarthe more ppl that use your hardware the more support it can possibly have imo02:07
kemikdalamar:  no, when it comes to desktops brand-names are more of a headache imo02:07
oceandeaddalamar: that, i disagree with02:08
dalamarkemik, thats the silliest thing ive ever heard02:08
webbyhi02:08
oceandeadalthough, i guess it depends on your budget...02:08
dalamarmy comp is all brand name and everything is smooth as glass02:08
karljpdalamar, I'm with kemik on this02:08
kemikdalamar:  they all have non-standard solutions so they force you to buy their overprice *shit*02:08
cafuegodalamar: Yes, because broadcom 802.11b (like the one EVERYONE uses) has *such* great support *smirk*02:08
karljpbrand name desktops are often junk and over priced.02:08
adjacentok. im buying a new sound card, this old sblive 5.1! is pissing me off too much02:08
tristanmikeI would never ever buy a dell for a desktop, I'd have to build my own, I don't trust commercial desktop systems02:08
karljpbrandname laptops actually work02:08
cafuegos/b/g/02:08
oceandeadif youve only got $500 for a desktop - you might as well get a brand name02:08
adjacentany opinions on the turtle beach riviera?02:09
CookedGryphoni ahve only ever had a brand pc, and it was shite, coul,dn't change everything, they stuck it in place with lil clips that broke as soon as u touched em02:09
darksliderIf you only have $500. . . you need to look in the right place for parts.02:09
oceandeadbut if youve got a few bucks - put it together yourself02:09
dalamarim not saying a -built- brand name desktop, im saying the parts you use in a custom built should be brand name heh02:09
cafuegoCookedGryphon: the idea is that you don't touch it, but pay them to do it.02:09
darksliderI built my own for only $400.02:09
oceandeaddarkslider, somewhere aside from ebay i hope ;)02:09
cafuegoCookedGryphon: See, you bought  abrand name PC< therefore you know nothing about computers and will NOT attempt to modify it yourself.02:09
CookedGryphoni kno, tha'ts my gripe02:09
tristanmikemine was $1200 after the monitor02:09
dalamari not talking dell's guys lol, i mean the guts should be brand name02:10
CookedGryphonbut i got given it, so felt obliged to take it02:10
CookedGryphonoh rite02:10
karljpdalamar, ok, that's completely different :)02:10
CookedGryphonthat's different02:10
oceandeadhahaha - then i agree dalamar02:10
karljpwe probably all agree with you then :)02:10
tristanmikeyup, yup02:10
darksliderOceandead: Not from Ebay. . .02:10
tristanmikelol02:10
dalamarindeed ;)02:10
cafuegodalamar: As long as the brand isn't Realtek.02:10
kemikrealtek for the win!02:10
naliothdell is selling lappys for $499 nowadays02:10
kemikheheehe02:10
kemik:/02:10
dalamarcafuego, i dont consider that brand name  .. lol and -anything- windows specific!02:11
cafuegonalioth: but they're dell... they stink.02:11
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oceandeadyep - check out the refurbished dell laptops for a deal too - same warranty as new ;)02:11
oceandeaddell laptops arent too bad - id rather have a toshiba but...02:11
CookedGryphonwhat about an ibm thinkpad?02:12
karljpis there any way to get a list of what's in hoary-backports?02:12
tristanmikei was impressed with the ibm ones02:12
cafuegooceandead: a pile of dead ones here say otherwise02:12
karljpthinkpads rock, but are far too expensive :(02:12
CookedGryphonyeah i'm getting one for 30002:12
karljpdell laptops are cheap, but not nearly as solid as  the thinkpads02:12
oceandeadpile of dead laptop whats -  dells or toshibas02:12
CookedGryphon1.5ghz 256 mb ram, wireless lan etc02:12
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karljpand everybody loves the nipple.02:13
cafuegokarljp: you get what you pay for. if you still want it to work in 5 years, a thinkpad is cheap.. whereas a dell will have been 'remanufactured' 8 times at that point.02:13
oceandeadyeah but we were talkin budget laptops02:13
juanejhow do i take a screenshot with console or the gimp?02:13
dalamarlinux and lappies have always had headaches .. its just one of those things where you cant control what hardware's inside it and support for matsushitagonnamukruasen hardware just isnt there ;)02:13
tristanmikeso spend the 2 grand on a tink-pad, ;)02:13
karljpcafuego, hehe sure.02:13
tristanmike??02:13
oceandeadthinkpads aint exactly $50002:13
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karljpdepends whether you still want to use the thinkpad in 5 years or not anyway :)02:13
karljpI'm more concerned with slining it around rough for 2 years, vs 6 months02:13
kemikIBM's designteam usually gives me nightmares02:13
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tristanmikedell and ibm let me "customize" the laptop, raised the price to make it more Ubuntu friendly02:14
dalamari've owned an old thinkpad and it still wasnt easier .. it may be diferent now though02:14
cafuegotristanmike: You don't like the Linux tax?02:14
rendiguy's i wanna download mp3 have program like winmx ??02:14
karljpsooo, is there any way to see what's actually in hoary-backports?02:14
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CookedGryphonrendi, beep-media-player's the best i've found02:14
tristanmikecafuego, i guess it's only fair, since i don't pay for the software :)02:14
cafuegorendi: doenloading mp3s is piracy, mate.02:14
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oceandeadlame02:14
CookedGryphonoh sry eyes not working02:15
kemikcafuego:  nah, it's not02:15
oceandeadnot all mp302:15
CookedGryphondownload, there's limwire02:15
kemikcafuego:  only copyright protected mp3s02:15
rendiin xp i usualy use winmx02:15
kemik!dcpp02:15
ubotumethinks dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 , a porting of the popular DC++ client02:15
rendimm like kazaa02:15
cafuegoif you NEED winmx, it probably is02:15
rendimp3 sharing02:15
medamaybecould someone please tell me why I even bother with making backup files?!?!02:15
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kemikrendi:  tried DC ?02:15
dalamarkazaa is poop ;)02:15
kemikrendi:  if not, see ubotu's link02:15
CookedGryphonrendi, limewire is like kazaa02:15
oceandead lame or amule etc02:15
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medamaybesamba worked, I messed the smb.conf file up, I restored the backup smb.conf file  and it doesn't work anymore!?!02:15
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tristanmikeboo-urns to limewire and kazza....C.R.A.P.02:16
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kemikmedamaybe:  maybe you messed up with the restoring part?02:16
eliphas_I have a friend he has a error 2& with grub02:16
eliphas_21*02:16
kemikmedamaybe:  and you've restarted the sambaserver ?02:16
medamaybeno, I'm absolutely sure I didn't mess up with the restoring part02:16
medamaybeI double checked it02:16
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medamaybeand yeah, I've restarted the samba server02:16
dalamarusenet is your friend for dling -anything- ;)02:16
oceandeadhahaha02:17
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karljpok, looks like gnomebaker 0.4 isn't in backports anyway :)02:17
dalamararrr!02:17
karljpback to the source02:17
kemikmedamaybe:  and you've gone over the smb.conf file again, made sure it's correct ?02:17
medamaybeyeah I have02:17
karljpusenet is like sucking the firehydrant of warez and porn02:18
medamaybeI only changed the workgroup and security02:18
kemikmedamaybe:  so what exactly isnt working now ?02:18
medamaybeuhm..I can't see anything in my LAN02:18
kemiktried accessing it with the IP number ?02:18
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adjacentaha. got sound through esd02:18
oceandeadmmm porn02:18
adjacentwhich sucks, but its way better than no sound at all02:18
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medamaybenot yet02:19
benplauthello :)02:19
tristanmikehi02:19
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oceandeadinternet would be a waste without it - well, ok, maybe not a _waste_ but ...02:19
medamaybeomg...it's working again02:19
medamaybeand I didn't change a thing02:19
dalamarmagic!02:19
kemikoceandead:  there would be no internet w/o porn02:19
durtyou can get great porn if you have a videosz.com pass...02:19
oceandeadthere would be but it would be boring as hell thats for sure02:20
dalamardvds, albums. games, there is internet without porn ;)02:20
mach4where do I get a videosz pass02:20
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kemikmmh, probably only for academics ,)02:20
kemikbut let's not turn this into a porn/warez channel02:20
kemikim sure some ppl would be very upset02:20
durtubuntu would be more popular if it shipped with some free porn02:21
oceandeadhahaha02:21
kemikdurt:  yeah it would be the OS of choice for many i'm sure02:21
dalamaryeah but some admins in the chan are a lil too uptight about 'off-topic' stuff imo .. i mean the whole ubuntu thing is about community and what are we spose to chat about if all our systems are working okay? ;p02:21
karljpanyone know which of the multitude of *gnomeui* packages gnomebaker needs?02:22
oceandeadthere is an off-topic channel02:22
kemikdalamar:  true that... ;) but still.. they're admins and not youme ;)02:22
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dalamaroceandead, which is always dead ;p02:22
dalamarkemik, true heh02:22
oceandeadi know ive been in it the whole time, not a word02:22
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dalamaroceandead, i talk more in my sleep than the people chat in that channel02:23
oceandeadthe whole time ive been in this channel as well i mean02:23
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oceandeaddalamar hahaha you too ?02:23
rendiwhere to download gnome theme ?02:23
rendihave any site ?02:23
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dalamaroh jeez, i give away all the secrets, cant sleep w/ the gf ;)02:23
iiiearsgnome-look.org02:23
Luna-Tickor http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//art.gnome.org/&ei=E2EOQ53kLMr2YODv7LcE02:23
naliothrendi: www.deviantart.com02:24
concept10what means does ubuntu use to automount usb hard disks?  my automounting isnt working today02:24
rendity02:24
Luna-Ticker... http://art.gnome.org/02:24
karljpbloody hell. gnome libraries are a mess02:24
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oceandeadgnome-volume-manager i believe02:25
g14Does anyone know how hard it is to remaster an ubuntu live cd?02:25
benplaut!remaster02:25
ubotubenplaut: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:25
benplautno, i didn;t02:25
g14I want to make a live cd for the hula project http://www.hula-project.org02:25
dalamaronly in holland02:25
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dalamarubotu your the coolest!02:25
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, dalamar02:25
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dalamarwell i dont know any other languages ubotu02:26
medamaybecould someone explain to me the difference between security = share  and security = user, in the smb.conf file?02:26
concept10g14, looking up remastering knoppix and probably more specifically gnoppix02:26
g14I was wondering if anyone has done it02:26
g14Im interested in using the ubuntu breezy live cd, not knoppix02:26
oceandeadsame principle ?02:27
concept10g14, you dont have to use knoppix, just the instructions, gnoppix is based on ubuntu now02:27
g14ok02:28
fanopnaicouch, are the newer lftp versions with TLS supposed to work with SSL?02:28
karljpanyone know how to hack around ubuntu's package names for gnome?  gnomebaker wants to use pkg-config to find libgnomeui-2.002:28
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Glenagehey all02:28
Luna-TickHi Glenage :_02:28
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Glenageokay02:29
Glenagequestion time02:29
avanspronsenmedamaybe: share = one password for the share, user = user id/password for each user02:29
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Glenageis this anything like sony sound forge in linux? doesnt have to be as complex or as good, just basic features02:29
g14karljp: hack around gnomebaker's make and autoconf files02:29
oceandeadaudacity02:29
karljpthat's one way I guess02:29
g14Glenage: Ardour02:29
benplautGlenage, is that an audio editor?02:29
Glenagebenplaut: yes02:30
benplautaudacity02:30
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benplautor pick up this month's Linux Format magazine... they review about 702:30
concept10Audacity will do the job, but it isnt close to being as robust as Sound Forge02:30
Glenagei have my decks connected to my PC via line-in on my sound card, i can record mixes using sony sound forge and was wounding if i could do it in linux02:30
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karljpbloody people that make cd burning software depend on vorbis and mp3 decoders02:31
karljpunhelpful.02:31
concept10Glenage, Audacity for stereo tracks, Im not sure about the multitrack recording capabilities of it.02:31
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benplauthow can i hook up an ubuntu laptop to log into a windows domain?02:31
concept10karljp, they cant include that stuff, along with all other 'free' software02:32
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karljpno, I wish they wouldn't but it is02:32
oceandeadautomagically or...02:32
karljpwell, not mp302:32
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karljpbut gnomebaker depends on libvorbis02:32
Glenageokay thanks concept1002:32
karljpand has no configure --option to disable it02:32
rendilol now how to instal that's theme02:32
concept10karljp, just install it02:32
g14gnomebaker 0.4 uses gstreamer, not libvorbis02:32
rendi!theme02:32
uboturendi: I give up, what is it?02:32
jkblitzhi if i instal ubuntu can i later on restor the pc back to windows02:32
karljpwell, it depends on vorbisfile02:33
karljpconcept10, sure, but I shouldn't have to!02:33
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concept10rendi, whats the problem02:33
CookdGryphonjkblitz, depends, do u want to retrieve all you rocs and programs?02:33
g14Ubuntu doesnt have gnomebaker 0.4 right now02:33
jimothykarl, do you have an ubuntu live cd:02:33
concept10karljp, you could have installed it by now02:33
rendii have already donwload theme from http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=15002:33
rendinow i can't find the readme02:33
karljpconcept10, much rather whine about it :)02:33
jkblitzno just if i dont like ubuntu02:33
rendihow to instal that theme02:33
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karljpjust about all the cd burning packages I've looked at wanted to install lots of audio codecs that I don't need/want02:34
CookdGryphonjkblitz, if u want to try out ubuntu without risk you could get the live cd to try out ubuntu02:34
concept10rendi, open folder that contains the theme, drag and drop the theme to the theme window02:34
renditheme window ?02:34
jkblitzreally02:34
concept10karljp, the mp3 codec is to turn the mp3's to wav files when you want to make a cd02:34
karljpI knwo what it's for silly02:35
karljpbut if I never burn cds like that, why should I be forced to install them?02:35
rendiin dir /home/admin/.themes ?02:35
concept10rendi, system > prefrences > theme02:35
CookdGryphonjkblitz, yea, dl the cd image, burn it to a cd, then u can boot from it without touching ure hard drive02:35
rendiand02:36
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ce33naI don't worry too much about extra codecs/libraries/etc. This is not windows. They will not break the system and they usually don't take up too much room.02:36
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karljpthey don't break them on windows either actually.02:36
concept10karljp, you shouldnt have to... but it might have hooks into the encoder for something else. You have to realize free software is built upon other free software and libraries02:36
concept10rendi, self explanitory02:36
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concept10rendi, drag the .tar.bz file into the theme window02:37
concept10and drop it like its hot02:37
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rendiit say format invalid02:38
concept10rendi, what theme are you talking about02:38
rendii'm download from this site http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1578302:38
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ce33nasystem-preferences-theme-install theme02:39
jkblitzso in theroy if i used a windeos restore disk i could go back from linux to the windeos os?02:39
ubuntu43243243hi02:39
volvoguyok folks. i moved hdb from my raid array from the first ide bus to the second and apparently it can't find it (wrong uuid?). will i need to boot a live cd or something to troubeshoot?02:39
rendiThe format is invalid02:39
concept10rendi, thats not a theme02:40
rendi15994-tuxmania.tar.gz02:40
rendilol02:40
ce33najkblitz: if you install linux and then want windows back...you will have to do a fresh windows installation (unless you did a dual boot setup)02:40
concept10that is the login for GDM02:40
ubuntu43243243I want to install ubuntu, but the installer doesnt see my partitions, I have 1 ntfs, 1 fat32, 1 reiserfs, 1swap02:40
rendioh ic02:40
hardw1re!kernel02:40
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ubuntu43243243but they dont appear on the manual partition menu02:40
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jkblitzwhat??02:41
volvoguyubuntu43243243, IDE or SATA?02:41
ubuntu43243243volvoguy, IDE02:41
concept10ubuntu43243243, install on whatever partition and mount them later02:41
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concept10so02:41
jamie_1guten tag.02:41
ubuntu43243243concept10, it tells me that it will create a big partitionin all the disk, soi wil loose all my partitions02:41
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Madpilothi everyone02:42
volvoguyubuntu43243243, hmm... i can't say i've ever run into that. how did you create the partitions?02:42
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concept10volvoguy, me either.02:42
ubuntu43243243with windaows, and Im running another linux02:42
volvoguyubuntu43243243, can you go back a step and tell it  you want to manually edit the partitions?02:42
karljphttp://pastebin.com/346447  gotta love patch searching02:42
ubuntu43243243thats what I select02:42
ce33naubuntu43243243: please run that by me again. It sounds like you want to manually edit02:42
ericzwhen you order cd's from shipit.ubuntu.com... do the install cd's include a way to install a bootloader?02:43
ce33naubuntu43243243: if you have another linux, you could create the partition from there if you have free space available02:43
ubuntu43243243I have 2 options -> erase the entire disk or manually edit the partitiontable02:43
volvoguyubuntu43243243, that IS weird. you can boot your other linux OS and mount the drives ok?02:43
concept10karljp, what are you doing? why did you just use synaptic, apt-get or aptitude?02:43
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ubuntu43243243I use the second one, but none of my partitions appear02:43
ubuntu43243243yeah02:43
concept10*didnt02:43
ubuntu43243243I can enter the other linux02:44
juanejanyone using xchat tray plugin on xfce??02:44
ubuntu43243243I just dont know why ubuntu doesnt see them02:44
karljpconcept10, no, that's after a checkinstall from source02:44
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concept10why dont you just use apt-get?02:44
volvoguyubuntu43243243, is it a weird motherboard or laptop or soemthing? i've just never even heard of ubuntu not detecting an ide drive.02:44
ce33nayep...set up the partitions from the side that works, then make sure and install ubuntu on those partitions.02:44
karljpconcept10, if you can show me gnomebaker 0.4.x in apt, then by all means :)02:45
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karljpyou think I do this for fun?02:45
ubuntu43243243mmm. I dont knowits a compaq presario 2100, Ive never had problems before02:45
dalamark3b owns anyway ;)02:45
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concept10karljp, yes, you seem you are looking for some fun today..... (I didnt know you wanted 0.402:46
volvoguyubuntu43243243, well i'm sure there's probably some poking around with the hardware while in your outher linux install, but i'm no expert. i probably can't help troubleshoot any further.02:46
karljpI need 0.4.1 to be able to add a volume label to a dvd02:46
karljpthough I should really jsut go and get nero for liinux and be done with it.02:46
ce33naubuntu43243243: if you get it working...I wouldn't worry too much about why. You only have to install debian based systems, such as ubuntu, once. You can upgrade on the fly from a single successful installation02:47
concept10karljp, just use a sticker02:47
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concept10:)02:47
ubuntu43243243ce33na, I have arch linux onit02:47
concept10or a sharpie02:47
karljpit will have writing on it as well.02:47
volvoguykarljp, nerolinux isn't really up to par with the open source burners yet. just fyi.02:47
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karljpvolvoguy, nice to know, thanks.02:48
dalamarsharpies are the coolest02:48
karljpwas sort of hoping for nero on windows, only for linux02:48
ubuntu43243243volvoguy, Im going to try again and I will write down what it shows me02:48
concept10karljp, your paste doesnt provide any debugging info02:48
ce33naubuntu43243243:  I have no experience woth arch linux. I'm sure the basic tools are there. This problem can be handled with tomsrtbt for that matter.02:48
jasoncohenkarljp, have you tried k3b or gnomebaker?02:49
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ubuntu43243243ce33na, maybe theres a bug on the installer02:49
volvoguykarljp, not to knock it - it does what their website says it does, but it's not anything like the windows version and the linux version usues a lot of older libraries.02:49
ubuntu43243243be right back02:49
karljpjason: you've obvioiusly not been paying attention to the conversation :)  this all started by trying to get a recent version of gnomebaker running02:49
karljpI've tried k3b, but I find qt's file dialog world to be just weird02:49
karljpit has different pros and cons to gnomebaker.02:50
rendianyone now can help me how to instal gnome icon ?02:50
karljpso neither of them are optimal really ;)02:50
dalamark3b is seckzy02:50
volvoguykarljp, i joined the conversation late. have you tried the typical "configure, make, make install" route instead of checkinstall?02:50
jasoncohenkarljp, i wasn't following. i just started reading02:50
concept10rendi, icons?02:50
rendiyup02:50
rendiicons02:50
karljpoh yeah, k3b wouldn't let me resize columns, so I couldn't see all the whole filename02:51
concept10rendi, drag and drop like before02:51
karljpvolvoguy, checkinstall just replaces the make install section02:51
ce33narendi: on the desktop?02:51
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karljpnot the rest of it.02:51
rendidrag and drop to ?02:51
rendiwhat place ?02:51
karljpyou still config/make, you jsut get a .deb made and isntalled for you at the end, that you can remove afterwards02:51
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ce33narendi: sorry, I'm not following02:51
diegovbi need help02:52
volvoguykarljp, ok. just checking. i've only needed to do one non-apt install thus far and it was for some silly little thing.02:52
karljphehe, lucky you :)02:52
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karljpI do plenty02:52
rendioh done02:52
concept10rendi, system > prefrences > theme > theme details button > theme tab02:52
rendiyes drag and drop02:52
rendity02:52
rendi:)02:52
naliothnow we play with the lovely livecd02:52
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diegovbcan you help me installing tibia?02:53
zerboxxHas anyone here setup the WPC54Gver2 with ndiswrapper?02:53
diegovb:O02:53
hari`diegovb, remove patella first, and be careful of ankle tendons.02:53
ce33natibia?02:53
ce33naisn't that a bone02:54
volvoguyrendi, do concept10's last suggestion. open up theme preferences and drag/drop in that window.02:54
diegovbTibia, the game, tibia.com02:54
ericzdoes anyone know if the install cd's shipped from "shipit" on ubuntus website has configuration for a bootloader?02:54
ericzor does it wipe the hard drive02:54
naliothericz: yes it does02:54
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naliothericz: you can choose either way02:54
ericzok, great02:54
ericzthanks02:54
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diegovbhow can ia install tibia?02:55
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eazel7hi ppl02:55
eazel7I have an obvious bug here, that seems that I will never solve by reinstalling another thousand times dbus or hal (packages.ubuntu.com says it's in devel/dbus, but I use the latest dbus packages02:55
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eazel7Failed to start message bus: Failed to open "/etc/dbus-1/system.conf": No such file or directory02:55
ce33nadiegovb: give me a second. I'm updating my package list to see if it is there02:55
eazel7I doesn't have that file, how can I get it? somebody had this problem or can help?02:56
eazel7(this leads into errors starting hal)02:56
ce33nadiegovb: have you ever installed from source?02:56
concept10!mount02:56
uboturumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives02:56
karljphmm, doesn't burn a dvd as fast as windows did, but at least it seems to be doing it :)02:56
volvoguywhich did you end up with karljp ?02:57
karljpgnomebaker is chugging away.02:57
volvoguykarljp, cool!02:57
karljpit's worked for cds in the past, but this is the first dvd I've stuck it with02:57
concept10anyone know anything about anyone and anything ?02:58
darkheart!dma02:58
karljpit's easier than the cli, but not nero for windows.02:58
volvoguyconcept10, yes. i do.02:58
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karljpso good enough I guess02:58
ce33nadiegovb: I'm using many extra package repositories and it is not there. I'll stick my kneck out and say that this is a source code install.02:58
concept10I need help with mounting my USB hard drive, it used to auto mount but it doesnt now.  Where should I start?02:59
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volvoguykarljp, i often email nero and encourage them to keep working on the linux version. i usually get a thank you message back saying that it isn't a high priority but they're still working on it.02:59
dennis__Guys02:59
karljpprobably getting done by a staff member at home during the night02:59
dennis__How would I start the esd service?02:59
ce33naconcept10: /etc/fstab02:59
darkheartdennis__ Type 'esd' in a console02:59
dennis__K03:00
volvoguykarljp, most likely. :)03:00
dennis__Thanks darkheart03:00
darkheartnp03:00
ce33nabe careful...make a backup copy if you have never been there before03:00
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volvoguyi guess i lost my RAID guru from earlier. he said i shouldn't have a problem moving one disk from an array to another IDE bus. i seem to be having issues with it though (even though it's still "hdb" as it was on the first ide bus).03:01
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orlokvolvoguy: what sorts of controllers?03:02
orloksome use different CHS translation methods03:02
bensoni need some help mounting a hdd03:02
concept10ce33na, usb hasnt been mounted using fstab03:02
volvoguyorlok, just regular IDE controllers. using linux software raid.03:02
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orlokvolvoguy: if its a different bus, how could it still be hdb?03:03
zerboxxAnybody here use a wireless PCMCIA card??03:03
orlokor did you remove one controller and add another?03:03
darkheart!usb03:03
ubotudarkheart: Are you on ritalin?03:03
durtzeroboxx: yes03:03
medamaybewhat do I have to do for my win2000 box to show up in the "network places" in ubuntu?03:03
orlokvolvoguy: and what chipset/brant is the ide controller?03:03
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ce33naconcept10: I'm going to back out on this one. I don't understand everything I know about how linux handles usb03:03
volvoguyorlok, once i got ubuntu installed i removed the cdrom drive and moved the second HDD to that bus. so each ide drive is on it's own bus by itself.03:04
volvoguythe one on the primary buss should still be hda, second drive on second controller still hdb.03:04
bensonif soemone coudl help me send me a PM please03:04
orlokvolvoguy: thats weird, secondary master is usually hdc03:05
volvoguyorlok, it's a hand me down computer. i didn't poke around much. i think it might be a via chipset.03:05
karljpbenson, just help clarify what you're trying to do03:05
orlokhda/hdb/hdc/hdd03:05
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zerboxxdurt: Do the lights on your card work? I just bought a new card, and ndiswrapper finds the hardware, but the power/link light isn't working03:05
volvoguyorlok, when i initially installed, both drives were on the first controller and were hda and hdb. cdrom was on the second bus and was hdc.03:06
durtzeroboxx: what type of card are you using?03:06
darkheartconcept10 Paste the output of 'mount' when you plug in your USB drive.03:06
bensonwell im trying to setup a duel boot, i installed windows, and i installed ubuntu, well, i rebooted and hit ESC to get to the menu and all i have were 3 linux choices, some people said i installed ubuntu over windows, but i knew i didnt, we finally found it and mounted it in /mnt/windows, im wondering if i need to reinstall windows or what am I missing for the dual boot to work?03:06
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orlokvolvoguy: so the primary slave is now on the secondary controller?03:06
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orlokvolvoguy: did you rejumper it?03:07
zerboxxdurt: WPC54G(ver2) with ndiswrapper03:07
Mr-Petahhi all, i have a problem mounting a iso image, here is the error: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/162403:07
volvoguyorlok, yep. primary slave moved to secondary master - and i moved the jumper to make it a master.03:07
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Mr-Petahneed help, support me plz ;)03:07
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avanspronsen!dualboot03:08
ubotu[dualboot]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo03:08
concept10darkheart, thanks, but i mounted them already03:08
durtzerboxx: good - have that too: you have to rmmod ndiswrapper, rmmod acx_pci, then modprobe ndiswrapper again03:08
darkheartconcept10 So you got it working?03:08
bensonwell i was able to mount the windows partition, but i cant find my other drive03:08
zerboxxdurt: Will that be constant now? light will always be on?03:09
volvoguyorlok, i'm going to move it back to it's original position and poke around to see if the config files are messed up somewhere.03:09
concept10darkheart, yes, but I was wondering why it didnt automount as usual.03:09
nadjylagood bye03:09
zerboxxdurt: and just curious, which driver did you install? (I used lstinds)03:09
darkheartconcept10 Yeah, sometimes that stuff is screwy..03:09
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iiiearsMr-Petah - I don't know if it means anything but NFSU2 is a securerom protected disk. - curious how were you able to make an iso? -  never had any luck myself.03:10
durtzerboxx: so it came on? if so, add "acx_pci" to /etc/hotplug/blacklist03:10
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volvoguyi'm off to go kick this thing around. be back in a bit.03:10
durtzerboxx: i loaded both INFs just in case03:10
zerboxxdurt: heh, good thinking03:10
zerboxxdurt: and last question (hopefully) what is ESSID?03:10
concept10I guess I will reboot and find out03:11
durtzerboxx: that's the name of the network you are trying to connect to03:11
zerboxxdurt: what if I'm not sure of the name?03:11
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durtzerboxx: run "iwlist"03:12
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morbidizerboxx: iwlist wlan0 scan03:12
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durthehe - thats what i meant03:13
naliothcafuego: you got a athlon64x2?03:13
zerboxxmodbidi, durt: Ah ok.  Kinda difficult for me right now, I'm not anywhere near my wireless network, so I'll have to try again when I'm closer :)03:13
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durtzerboxx: if your using a linksys router/switch, it might be called "linksys", assuming it hasnt been changed03:14
ngdhow can I load the default Ubuntu GTK theme if I'm not booting into gnome but my own window manager instead?03:14
zerboxxdurt: nope, I know it's changed, but if it were "linksys" when I type "iwlist wlan0 scan" it will show "linksys"?03:14
durtyup03:14
zerboxxdurt: perfect, hopefully it'll work when I'm back home.  Thanks!03:15
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ngdGTK themes anyone?03:15
medamaybedoes anyone know if there's a limit to length of the workgroupname in ubuntu?03:15
ngdI've tried putting it in .gtkrc but doesn't seem to fly03:15
damsko someone knows how to change xine splash image?03:16
iiiearshttp://gnome-look.org03:16
iiiearsnvm03:16
ngdiiiears: any idea how to load a gtk theme if your not booting into Gnome?03:17
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iiiearsngd - afraid i don't sorry..03:17
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ngdiiiears: np03:18
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Mr-Petahiiiears, the file is good, i play it in windows, but i can't mount this in my ubuntu03:18
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Dimei have a problem with mplayer03:18
durtzerboxx: one more thing: dont forget to run "ndiswrapper -m" and youre set03:18
Dimeits open and will not close03:18
Dimehow do i close it or shut it down03:18
zerboxxdurt: what does that do?03:19
ce33naDime: use xkill03:19
Mr-Petahiiiears, in windows, i can mount the file whit a nero tool03:19
durtDime: killall mplayer03:19
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vortekHello I'm a debian user by defualt .. BUt all I had was this ubuntu cd lying around.. Im impressed  :)03:19
HrdwrBoBheh03:19
durtzerboxx makes ndiswrapper load at boot03:19
vortekSo I installed it and its nice... A tad bit to user freindly though ;)03:19
HrdwrBoByes, ubuntu is like debian only it Just Works and is Pretty03:19
zerboxxdurt: I did that before I installed the other driver, do I have to do it again?03:19
HrdwrBoBvortek: HA! we can't be having that :P03:20
ce33navortek: me too. I was impressed enough to make the switch03:20
vortek;)03:20
bigbootayat work we use debian for servers and ubuntu and debian for desktops.03:20
bigbootaymore and more ubunut on the desktop, though.03:20
vortekAll though I mise kernel-package03:20
vortekbigbootay: yeah it does save time on confurations :)03:20
HrdwrBoBbigbootay: I've been using ubuntu for servers03:20
durtzerboxx, wont hurt03:21
vortekWhats the best way to make a custom kernel I need some speed and optimizations03:21
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bigbootaywhere are the servers, though?03:21
HrdwrBoBpretty much the same thing, but I only need to worry about a single distro03:21
HrdwrBoBin the server room03:21
nakatai don't wanna work03:21
HrdwrBoBvortek: no need03:21
nakatai just want to bang on de drum all day.03:21
nakata...or my gf03:21
zerboxxI was wondering, if I run gnome and put a cd in, /media/cdrom0 is linked to the cd/dvd but if I'm running fvwm (without gnome) it doesn't work BUT I can still listen to cd's or play dvd's how can I get it to automatically link to /media/cdrom0?03:21
HrdwrBoBvortek: if you REALLY must, you can use kernel-package the same as debian03:21
nakatabut... i don't have one :(03:21
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zerboxxnakata: drums or a gf? ;)03:22
fanopnaicCan some ubuntu guru tell me how the forwarding of ubuntu bug reports to debian, and vice versa, works in practise?03:22
vortekHrdwrBoB: sweet I do honestly notice speed differs :)03:22
neighborleeI  tried to open .deb. from website with gdeb..it said 'no action option was provided' ??03:22
bigbootayoops.  I'm in the wrong channel.  bloody carpetcrawlers switched tabs on me.03:22
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nakatazerboxx, ...both!!! *breaks out into tears*03:22
bigbootaygotta run... :)03:22
zerboxxnakata: heh03:22
vortekHrdwrBoB: unless you recomend some other options for optimizations03:22
nakatai guess i'll just work instead.03:22
HrdwrBoBvortek: there's not much you can do03:22
HrdwrBoByou can add preload03:22
HrdwrBoBand ensure you're using dma etc03:23
ce33nadma is really helpfull on these cheap boxes03:23
vortekpreload ?03:23
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durtwhat command can be used to make a launcher that will launch something in the terminal?03:24
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morbidignome-* 03:24
morbidi?03:24
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glen_where is samba in ubuntu?03:25
g14You need to install it03:25
g14Use synaptic03:25
glen_-_-03:25
g14Yeah it should be in main03:26
glen_what03:26
flodinehas anyone updated there ubuntu to kernel 2.6.1203:26
TrippDoes anyone know how to install a game in ubuntu?03:26
ce33nadurt: I cannot specifically answer that, but I do remember seeing a box saying "run in terminal"03:26
bob2glen_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:26
g14flodine: Yeah, its called breezy03:26
nakataTripp, i've done it, which game?03:26
bob2Tripp: you need to be a lot more specific03:26
naliothTripp: in synaptic, there is a 'games' section03:26
glen_k thanks03:26
bob2g14: that's non-trivial in hoary; why do you want to do that?03:26
nakataflodine, sure i have.03:26
bob2er03:26
bob2flodine: ^03:26
glen_does vnc viewer come with ubuntu?03:26
ce33nayep03:27
nakataglen_, look in synaptic03:27
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g14bob2: kernel reconfig / recompile isnt very hard. It is just time intensive03:27
nakataand cpu intensive03:27
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nakata:<03:27
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g14glen_: vino is a gnome vnc viewer03:27
flodinewhat bob203:27
vortekHrdwrBoB: what is preeload03:27
bob2g14: I know03:27
vortekProN00b: h0h0 sups bro03:27
bob2flodine: why do you want 2.6.12?03:27
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flodinejust wanted to know if it was possible03:27
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ce33naglen_: applications > internet > terminal server client03:28
vortekso should Is use a kernel source that is in the package list or dl raw source ?03:28
shefahi guys03:28
flodinecan i just update the kernel with apt03:28
Duvelflodine, yes03:28
ce33naflodine: yep...03:28
shefaI'm new to Ubuntu so need a bit of help03:28
flodinewhats the cammand03:28
Duvelhi dhefa what's the problem?03:29
Duvelshefa03:29
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ceghaHey03:29
HrdwrBoBvortek: do some googling etc03:29
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shefaWhen I lounche any of my musiv players, a can't read the id3 tags that a have in cyrillic on my mp303:29
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ce33naflodine: there is a package that automatically updates...I don't remember what it is called03:29
damskohow do i overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/03:29
damsko?03:29
zerboxxPopping in a cd automatically mounts it, same with dvd's, but is there a way to see what /dev/foos are currently connected?03:29
flodinesomeone help03:29
shefaanybody that knows a resolution03:29
ProN00bhm, is it normal that i still have kernel 2.6.10-5-386 ?03:30
ceghaHey, i have used ubuntu, and was wondering, if it is suitable enough to run a beowulf cluster from?03:30
fanopnaicProN00b: yes03:30
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ce33naflodine: if you don't understand what I just said..will you give me a minute to find the package name for you?03:30
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flodineyes sir03:30
Duvelshefa, can you play the songs?03:31
Drewfusim trying to get drivers for the card i just got, im supposed to get drivers for linux IA32 right?03:31
vortekHrdwrBoB: can you atleast recomend a key word google for preload linux has to many options03:31
g14cegha: Why would you want to run beowulf from ubuntu? Why not use a distro designed for beowulf?03:31
ceghalike?03:31
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mziegleri'm trying to install Insight II by accelrys I type sudo /media/cdrom/install but get permission denied03:31
damskohow do i overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/  ? :/03:31
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shefaHELP!!!03:31
c0rrupt_-.-03:31
g14cegha: Just a second03:32
ceghak thnx03:32
Duvelshefa, can you play the songs?03:32
ce33naflodine: install "linux-image-686" in place of the kernel that is selected. It will always use the latest stable kernel version03:32
ceghaim just board and have 4 old pc's sitting around at the moment and want to put them to use03:33
ce33naassuming you are using a 686 style processor03:33
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flodinemziegler yes03:33
flodineyes03:33
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flodinei use 68603:33
medamaybecan anyone tell me if smb.conf is the only file in which I have to set my network workgroup?03:33
shefaYes a can, everything works fine, it just that i can't read shit that is wqritten in cyrillic.03:33
damskohow do i overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/03:33
remyforbes777anyone using Ubuntu 64 bit03:33
g14cegha: You might be better off using clusterKnoppix03:34
ceghamedamaybe:yes thats all u need to edit, to make samba work on the network03:34
Duvelmedamaybe, yes03:34
ceghak03:34
ceghathnx03:34
ceghai'll look into it03:34
Duveldamsko, why would you want that?03:34
medamaybewel..apparently it doesn't work :)03:34
flodinece33na ok then what03:34
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medamaybedo you know if there's a limit to the length of a workgroup name in ubuntu?03:34
ce33naflodine: you are done03:34
damskocauz this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348&forummode=2&forumpage=1&forumexplevel=all03:34
flodinei have 686 already03:35
g14cegha: http://bofh.be/clusterknoppix/ I did the web design for this project when I first learned to make websites03:35
ceghahehe im already there03:35
ceghanice design BTW03:35
ce33naare you using the "linux-image-686" package?03:35
avanspronsenmedamaybe: workgroup name for samba config?03:35
flodineyes03:35
g14cegha: thx03:35
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ceghaya this will deintly be better, the network bootiing feature as im short a HD or 203:35
flodinece33na yes03:35
ce33nathen it will update when a new stable kernel image is ready03:36
medamaybeno, the workgroup name in general03:36
medamaybeI mean...could it be too long for samba to achknowledge it?03:36
g14medamaybe: the workgroup name for windows networking should be in smb.conf I believe03:36
cegha,edamabye: don't think so03:36
flodinece33na are you saying it will give me 686 2.6.12 auto03:36
medamaybeI set the workgroup name in smb.conf03:36
avanspronsenmedamaybe: I would keep it under 15 characters03:36
damskoso none knows? :(03:36
ceghaworkgroup name in samba config file has to match the one in windows03:36
kevmanHow can I change desktop resolutions?03:36
medamaybebut for some reason my ubuntu box is still in the mshome workgroup03:37
shefaHey Duval, are you there03:37
ceghachange your windows box to mshome03:37
ce33naflodine: when the ubuntu bunch has the bugs worked out of it, yes03:37
medamaybelol03:37
ceghawell i mean until u get it working properly03:37
medamaybethat's like using windows because you don't understand linux :)03:37
medamaybebut you're right...I'll try that03:38
damskosystem/preferences/screen resolution03:38
ceghai had samba setup and it worked fine for me03:38
ceghait just kinda ran03:38
Duveldamsko, in terminal it goes like sudo cp -frd newfile /usr/share/pixmaps/03:38
ceghai didnt have to do a load of troubleshooting03:38
damskothanks duvel03:38
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medamaybeis the workgroup case sensitive?03:38
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flodinece33na what if i dont wanna wait till then for the kernel what do i do to update03:39
chrismymay i know which application is best for video and audio compressing in ubuntu?\03:39
Duvelshefa i guess you will need to install something to support cyrillic for your mp3 player03:39
damskokevman, system/preferences/screen resolution03:39
Xinexok, so basically I need to get this win pc to recognize my linux computer on our wlan and share files between the computers, how do I do this?03:39
shefaYah, well, that's what I already assumed, but WHAT, and HOW03:40
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ceghaxinex: samba is wut u want03:40
flodinece33na what kernel are you on03:40
rendihi how to create wheather like this this is the capture03:40
Xinexok03:40
rendihttp://img17.echo.cx/my.php?image=pdk1wy.png03:40
medamaybexinex, be careful though, samba is evil03:40
rendisee that03:40
chrismymay i know which application is best for video and audio compressing in ubuntu?\03:40
ceghaxinex: you will need to edit the smb.conf file to get it to work03:40
Xinex-_-03:40
ce33naflodine: let me check03:41
kevmandamsko, I'm using Kubuntu03:41
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ce33naflodine: 2.6.1003:41
mrd`Hi.  Anyone familiar with prelink(1)?03:41
Duvelshefa, are the letters to small or just weird signs?03:42
shefaWeird signs-that's all-on some programs are just ? marks03:42
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ce33naflodine: I was away from the computer for a second. Are you wanting to do kernel compiling?03:43
karljpshefa: welcome to multilinugual hell.03:43
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flodinehell yeah03:43
flodineim not scared03:44
ceghawhoever helped me is there anyway to make a bootable floppy for cluster knoppix?03:44
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flodineheheh03:44
flodinewhat do i do03:44
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ce33nado you have another machine?03:44
zerboxxHow does ubuntu automount cd's and dvd's??03:44
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flodinelol03:44
flodinewhy is it going to mess up this computer03:44
ce33naseriously...do you have more than one machine?03:45
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flodineyes03:45
dbeeHi, I am having serious troubles installing j2re on Hoary Hedgehog. The Unofficial guides' apt-get method gives me a libc error ... wrong libc library. I've tried pointing it to another repository www.seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ but it's not available. Now the wiki method of installing fakeroot et al throws up a  'free(): invalid pointer' error ... I'm beginning to think that maybe trying to install Ubuntu isn't such a good idea afterall ... pls help !03:45
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ce33nacount on it messing up a machine03:45
mrd`zerboxx: There's some automounter code, but I'm not that familiar with it.  (You probably already knew that much though.)03:45
ce33nafor the first few tries03:45
flodinethen why is there a new kernel03:45
mrd`ce33na: Unless you uninstall your old kernel, it shouldn't make the machine unusable.03:45
zerboxxmrd`: Kinda, I'm just wondering what that automounter code is, and where it is etc :)03:45
airmikeyis there really a differenc if i update kernel03:46
iiiearsdbee - i have j2re installed and never saw that on an ubuntu install before03:46
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Duvelzerboxx, it is in /etc/fstab03:47
ceghawhoever helped me is there anyway to make a bootable floppy for cluster knoppix?03:47
g14zerboxx: The automounting for gnome?03:47
mrd`aatim: If you use java-package, it's not that difficult to ubuntu-ize one of the jre's from java.sun.com.03:47
g14cegha: I dont know03:47
cegha=/03:47
ce33naflodine: let me get this out of the way. If I was going to play with kernel compiling again, I would set up a slackware machine. Its a much cleaner system to learn on. Having that said; mrd is correct. You can bring it back if you do not remove the old kernel. Have a rescue disk handy before you start.03:47
zerboxxg14: Yeah, just wondering what it is, where it is, etc03:47
durtdbee: just download the deb from seveas. .... ....03:47
mrd`Erm.03:47
mrd`dbee: If you use java-package, it's not that difficult to ubuntu-ize one of the jre's from java.sun.com.03:48
iiiearsdbee - dpkg -i j2re   works  - could it be a bad package corrupted or something?03:48
naliothbrb, changing puters03:48
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flodinece33na does it make a diffrence on kernels03:48
ce33naflodine: it makes it easier03:48
g14zerboxx: It is a series of things under the auspies of "Project Utopia" by robert love the genius kernel hacker03:49
dbeedurt: so the seavas deb is definitely up then ?? I was trying last night and I was getting a TCP connection error03:49
ce33naflodine: there are numerous tutorials on the web, that will help you start kernel hacking03:49
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bored2kwhat file contains gtk+-2.0 ?03:49
g14zerboxx: Some hotplug enhancements to the 2.6 kernel, HAL, Dbus, and gnome-volume-manager are all parts of project utopia03:49
glen_which download of samba should I get?03:49
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zerboxxg14: Ah, ok, thanks gotta run, brb03:49
shefathanks, but I need a resolution to the problem. Can i set somewhere a support for non-unicode programms03:49
flodinece33na are you sure ubuntu will auto update for you when the kernels ready or just going to upgrade 2.6.10-503:49
flodineto 2.6.10-803:50
ce33nayep...mine has upgraded multiple times03:50
dbeemrd: so I should just download a java package straight from sun then do you think ???03:50
Luna-TickDoes anyone here know anything about gstreamer?03:50
fanopnaicLuna-Tick: like what?03:50
mrd`dbee: Yeah, and then install ``java-package'' from synaptic.03:50
flodinece33na yeah but your still on 2.6.1003:50
Luna-TickThere are a lot of things that their site says that it isn't, but not what it really is03:50
glen_which download of samba should I get?03:50
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g14gstreamer 0.9 wont be stable enough for breezy :(03:50
Luna-Tick:(03:50
durtdbee: i got it from there last night actually, but you can try this if that doesnt work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions03:51
mrd`dbee: Well, install java-package and read the documentation.  It'll tell you what to do.  (It's pretty simple.)03:51
ce33naflodine: what is the latest kernel available03:51
flodinece33na is it going to update to 2.6.12 when ready03:51
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g14ce33na: Check kernel.org for yourself03:51
mrd`g14: Why do you say that?03:51
mrd`(The gstreamer 0.9 thing.)03:51
fanopnaicLuna-Tick: As far as I understand it, it's similar to DirectShow. <quote />03:51
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ce33nag14: spttz03:52
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g14mrd`: Because I follow gstreamer development in the company that sponsors it, fluendo. It wont be ready03:52
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mrd`Hm.03:52
flodinece33na never seen a linux upgrade to a new kernel just to the sameone for security03:52
dbeemrd: I've tried the wiki, and when I try to install fakeroot, java-package, java-common, it gives me a free() pointer error03:52
ce33naflodine: the guys who maintain the kernel will decide which version is next03:52
Deckersup all03:52
flodineyes breezy03:52
mrd`Ah, hm, I still have gstreamer0.8 installed too... I'd have sworn 0.9 was installed...03:52
flodineis next03:52
flodineso why give you a kernel upgrade03:53
flodineuse breezy03:53
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morbidibtw, I have a repo that has been disabled, how do I know wich is wich ?03:53
mrd`flodine: Huh?03:53
glen_which download of samba should I get for ubuntu?03:53
mrd`dbee: Odd.03:53
Deckeranyone have any luck getting their centrino to work wirelessly?03:54
g14glen_ Use synaptic and install all of the samba packages. It shouldnt hurt anything03:54
ce33naflodine: read the package description for linux-image-68603:54
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g14glen_ If you read the descriptions, it will tell you which you need to share files with windows systems03:54
vortekehllo03:54
airmikeyDecker: yes03:54
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iiiearsdbee - j2re from sun.com is a headache - find a j2re.deb  much simpler greater chancew of success over the dozen step process of th official sun package.03:54
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vortekCan any one tell me how to get back my root acount in ubuntu  google is n't helping much03:54
Deckerairmikey, what am I doing wrong? :D03:55
g14sudo passwd root03:55
Duvelshefa, it's caused by the way id3 tags and mp3 files work... setting those id3tags in CAPITALS should make them readable, only small letters are affected.03:55
Deckeri active it03:55
mrd`iiiears: You just convert it to a .deb and install it.  It's pretty painless.03:55
Deckersetup the wep key03:55
Deckerbut nothing :S03:55
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ch107783Has there been any fixes for the slow smb transfers?03:55
g14vortek: sudo passwd root03:55
airmikeyu put in the key03:55
ch107783Oops Hello everyone!03:55
vortekthanxs03:55
rinihi03:55
ch107783Has anyone had any success in speeding up the SMB transfers?03:56
Duvel!botsnack03:56
ubotu:)03:56
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ch107783It's better when you mount the share but still way slow03:56
flodinece33na give me a link to that03:57
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firezCan anyone help me with my JDK installation, I get this message when I try to run a class after compile it from a java file:03:57
firezException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: myfirstprog03:57
dbeeiiiears: cool, I'll try seveas' repositories again and I'll see if I can download from there ...03:57
shefaAny idea how can i change them all at once, instead going one by one, cause i have over a 1000 files03:57
firezI followed the wiki guide03:58
ce33naflodine: open synaptic and use the search function03:58
iiiearsdbee - i have the package if you like.03:58
ce33nasearch for "linux" and you will find it03:58
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durtfirez: maker sure the class name is the same as the java file name03:59
naliothshefa: can you say "recursive"?03:59
firezdurt: uh yeah is different, i will fix that03:59
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Duvelshefa, there are more then one progs able to do that, try sudo apt-get install cantus304:00
dbeeiiiears: thanks, it looks like my frozen apt-get program has a lock on synaptics memory ... I'm locked out of synaptic ... I'm gonna do a reboot ... oh, wait a sec ... cool thanks iiears04:01
shefathanks a million guys. I'l give a shot.04:01
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Duvelshefa, yw04:01
flodinece33na i like ubuntu 5.04 i dont want breezy so will i be able to stay here and just keep updating my kernel04:01
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glen_so are there binaries for samba for ubuntu?04:02
firezDurt: thanks I get the hello world! in the terminal, but is weird that the java compiler changes the name of the class from the original java file, is it normal?04:02
bob2glen_: of course, I told you how to install it, earlier04:02
ce33naflodine: yes04:02
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shefaTake care now. I'll see you around04:03
ianhello pp..04:03
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ce33naI do not use breezy. I let the ubuntu kernel mainainers worry abou the kernel upgrades and I use the extra package repositories for my applications04:03
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dell500how do i print out 4 slides in open office on one page?04:03
ianwhere can i configure..so that there will be an trash, my computer..icons in my desktop..04:04
bob2ian: in gconf04:04
bob2you'll have to find it yourself, tho04:04
durtfirez: i have no more java experience than you, so i dont know :)04:04
Deckerso yeah04:04
ianbob2: what do you mean?04:04
dabaRhi04:04
ch107783firez: why don't you use the add-on cd?04:04
DeckerI still can't get my wireless network card running :'(04:04
firezdurt: thanks anyway, at least I know that the JDK installation worked04:05
Deckeranyone know how to tell to see if the WEP key isn't being accepted?04:05
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bob2ian: gconf-editor04:05
firezch1077: is there an addon cd?04:05
bob2Decker: disable WEP on the AP and see if it works04:05
firezlol04:05
ch107783Decker: what kind of wireless card?04:05
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Deckerit's onboard04:06
Deckercentrino04:06
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ch107783Firez: It's unofficial, but you can check it out at www.mrbass.org04:06
JslHelp....04:06
Deckerpart of my notebook :D04:06
Xinexhow do I get ubuntu to connect to this pc via VNC?04:06
Xinexover our lan04:06
Deckerbob2, it works in windows :S04:06
firezch107783: thanks, I will check that04:06
JslIm installed vhcs on my pc and need to uninstall everything the script installed my pc is messed up...04:06
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JslI need help bad.04:07
bob2reinstall04:07
ch107783Decker: that doesn't help much you can probably due an lspci to findout atleast the chipset04:07
bob2and don't use such broken crap04:07
DuvelXinex, install vnc, edit /etc/vnc.conf and start vncserver04:07
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Xinexedit it to what?04:07
flodineanyone get pekwm installed on ubuntu04:07
ch107783Firez: np, it's easy to get multimedia and Java installed using that04:07
bob2Jsl: or explain what "messed up" means, and tell us step by step how you broke your computer04:07
iiiears!vnc04:07
ubotuvnc is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html04:07
ianbob2: thanks04:07
ce33naXinex: have you tried the vnc client that is included with ubuntu?04:07
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Jslwell localhost is all messed up...04:07
Duvelor remove it completely with sudo apt-get remove packagename --purge04:08
XinexI'm trying it, ce33na04:08
ch107783Make sure you check for updates to the unofficial CD though04:08
JslIm locked out of vhcs04:08
Jsland ect.04:08
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oceandeadin soviet russia, computer breaks you!04:08
Xinexheh04:08
syndtrying to boot the live cd to a toshibal laptop04:08
dell500nm, figured it out04:08
syndtoshiba**04:08
Xinexwhat's the equivalent of ipconfig in linux?04:08
DuvelXinex, ifconfig04:08
syndand it loads fine, but then it just sits at a black screen04:09
cfaunXinex: what are you trying to do?04:09
JslBob2 >>I used the script from here  http://vhcs.net/new/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2249&forum=204:09
codecainecan someone in here running ubuntu run this command /exec df -h04:09
bob2yeah, running random scripts from web forums as root is a hot idea04:09
bob2Xinex: "ip"04:09
codecainei'm wondering what none is for on /dev04:09
JslI need to uninstall all it installed.....04:09
JslI had already used it before04:09
JslJust lost it...04:09
codecainebob2, whats the none filesystem mounted on /dev all about?04:09
bob2codecaine: it' not a real filesystem04:09
JslFount it again04:09
codecaineback to that virtual file system stuff eh bob2?04:10
bob2no04:10
bob2it's tmpfs04:10
bob2aka a real filesystem with no backing store04:10
Xinexcfaun, I'm trying to get vnc to work so I don't have to walk up and down two flights of stairs a million times04:10
durtsynd: dont know about the live cd, but the hoary install worked fine on my toshiba04:10
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airmikeyDecker: u get it04:10
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synddurt: its a toshiba satellite, p4 2.804:10
naliothsynd: are you in here causing trouble?04:11
syndnalioth: yes04:11
cfaunUgg...the security team still hasn't added mozilla 1.7.1104:11
naliothsynd: have mercy! can't take you nowhere!04:11
Jsl*needs help*04:11
syndnalioth: i know04:11
bob2Jsl: no one can help you unless you actually help yourself04:11
codecainebob2, how come it uses none instead of tmpfs like its used on /dev/shm04:11
iiiearssynd - Do you think it is just the display that needs to be configured? - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    will ask you questions to help set up the display.04:11
bob2Jsl: start by answering my question above04:11
syndiiiears: no idea.04:11
JslWhat question...04:11
ch107783Xinex: apt-get install xvnc4viewer04:11
ksmurfHow in the ehck do u get into the cups server.  It keeps asking for an administrator password and username but I have never configured one.04:11
bob212:07:35 @         bob2 | Jsl: or explain what "messed up" means, and tell us step by step how you broke your computer04:12
bob2Jsl: "undo what that script did" is not a useful statement of your aim04:12
Luna-TickAnyone know if there is a libdvdcss gstreamer plugin anywhere?04:12
bob2Jsl: if that's what you want to do, you need to go talk to whoever wrote the script04:12
iiiearssynd - were there any screen messages that hinted at what was wrong?04:12
bob2ksmurf: system -> administration -> printers04:12
JslMessed up means i need to unstall vhcs because i cant get into it (It locked me out)04:12
bob2Jsl: so, go talk to the vhcs people04:13
JslAnd i want to install everything from scratch to be safe04:13
nomasteryoda|wfinally got qemu to install on my main laptop with kqemu too...04:13
ch107783Xinex then after it installs type vncviewer on one and vncserver on the other04:13
ksmurfbob2 can u not also get in from the browser.... 127.0.0.1:631?04:13
nomasteryoda|wbut alas, it is in the bz install and I'm sure it will be toast in a day or 304:13
Jslbob2: Talk to the vhcs people....04:13
bob2ian: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqsection_view?section=Using%20Ubuntu04:13
bob2Jsl: they broke your system, you need to get them to help you unbreak it04:14
bob2ksmurf: you cannot04:14
DuvelJsl, remove it completely with sudo apt-get remove packagename --purge04:14
ksmurfbob2 I have the hpijs configured and have more options on the web interface04:14
ch107783Xinex: You also have to go to Remote Desktop and Allow others to view and control the desktop that you want to control04:14
bob2Duvel: it's not a package04:14
ksmurfbob2  S%^$ thanks04:14
syndiiiears: it got past the boot screen.. and started to load the kernel.. but it was going by to fast for me to catch anything.04:14
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ch107783Xinex: ?04:15
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Drewfuswould anyone be able to help me get my graphics drivers working?04:15
bob2Jsl: in general, if you use software from outside ubuntu, you'll need to talk to whoever wrote it, not us04:15
iiiearssynd - don't really have enough information yet. give this a try CTRL+ALT+F2   should give you a terminal - going to assume it is a problem with the display not being configured properly.04:15
ch107783Drewfus: ATI or Nvidia?04:15
Duvelsynd, you can read it with dmesg04:16
bob2Drewfus: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:16
Drewfusnvidia04:16
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ch107783Drewfus: ubuntu's way or nvidia's04:16
Drewfuswhichever works better?04:16
ce33naiiiears: less /var/log/syslog04:17
bob2Drewfus: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:17
Drewfusor maybe i should choose whichever is easier04:17
Drewfusim checking that now04:17
Xinexch107783, working on it04:17
Xinexapt didn't work04:17
iiiearsce33na an excellent idea. -04:17
ch107783I have had better luck with nvidia's way04:17
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nooneelsehi all04:17
Drewfushows that04:17
nooneelsei'm installing some programs by apt-get04:18
Drewfustheir read me didnt help me too much04:18
ch107783Xinex: have you added any repostories to /etc/apt/sources.list ?04:18
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Drewfusim having problems with the kernel part of the install04:18
nooneelsebut the icons arent appearing in applications menu04:18
durtDrewfus: just apt-get nvidia-glx04:18
volvoguyquick question. ATI Radeon 7500 (rv200). the DRI project website says it's supported by their driver. is that what Ubuntu uses by default for "ati" in xorg.conf, or do i need to install a package and use "radeon"?04:18
naliothnooneelse: they may appear after you log out and log back in04:18
Drewfushow do i do that04:18
glen_no ch10778304:18
ch107783glen what?04:18
Drewfusive heard about aptget but i dont understand it04:19
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nooneelsenalioth, no I mean... it appears04:19
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nooneelsenalioth, but the ICON IMAGE not appears04:19
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nooneelsejust the icon without the image icon04:19
Duvel!apt-get04:19
ubotuI heard apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/04:19
ch107783glen_: Whats wrong?04:19
aatimis there an sqlrelay-java for ubuntu?04:19
ch107783it's built in04:19
glen_ch107783, Im xinex04:19
naliothnooneelse: yes i know what you mean, the app appears in the menu, but not its specific icon04:19
ch107783OH04:19
naliothnooneelse: it will probably appear after a log out and log in04:19
cafuegoaatim: considering the java license, i doubt it.04:19
cafuego!find sqlrelay04:19
ianhow do i make a batch file like in windows.. ".bat" in ubuntu?04:19
nooneelsenalioth, ywap looks like a "console icon"04:19
nooneelse"terminal icon"04:20
naliothnooneelse: log out and log in and see04:20
nooneelsenalioth, lemme see04:20
aatimis there any site where i can find how to install one?04:20
Drewfuswhats this ch10778304:20
bob2volvoguy: doesn't matter, they're the same in this case04:20
adiabatician: The closest equivalent is writing a script in bash, the usual shell04:20
ce33naian: we use shell scripts04:20
ch107783I just asked for direct chat wo that I can explain to you guys what to do04:20
codecainebob2, you have a quick link explaining tmpfs and none using dev?04:20
hardw1recafuego smells :P04:20
ianok.. what would be the extension of a shell scripts?04:21
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Duvelian, nothing :)04:21
ce33na.sh04:21
adiabatician: either no extension or maybe .sh04:21
bob2codecaine: er, none is in the filesystem column, it just means it isn't being mounted from a device04:21
cafuegohardw1re: don't bother, you're still on ignore04:21
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Drewfusi clicked accept but nothing is happening04:21
ch107783ok04:21
nooneelsenalioth, well just one worked04:21
hardw1re:o04:21
glen_same04:21
bob2codecaine: tmpfs presumably has docs in the kernel Documentation dir04:21
ianthen how would we execute a shell script?04:21
maeis anyone else having issues with sound-juicier and rhythmbox crashing on colony-3 i have all the latest updates04:21
hardw1reoh well04:21
Duvelian, . script04:21
nooneelsenalioth, the AMSN icon still broken04:21
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bob2ian: sh ./blah.sh04:21
naliothnooneelse: sometimes no actual icons are available for specific programs04:21
hardw1resh name04:21
volvoguybob2, so if X works I'm all set? whatever degree of 3D acceleration is supported on this card is already working? i can't seem to run any of the glxgears or glxinfo things.04:21
nooneelsenalioth,  hmm ok04:21
ianok thanks a lot!04:21
naliothnooneelse: and some different icon themes have more icons than others04:22
bob2Duvel: that sources it, which is different to running it04:22
codecainebob2, i understand none is not a FS, but i just want to know the reason and functionality behind the /dev because i did not mount it04:22
bob2mae: please file a bug if no one else has04:22
adiabatician: set the executable bit and give it a shebang line OR do `bash foo.sh`04:22
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nooneelsenalioth, do u know the name of lib to play divx, mpeg1/2 and this kind of movies ?04:22
naliothnooneelse: try the bluecurve theme (search how to do it in the wiki)04:22
bob2codecaine: udev mounted it; udev gets hotplug events from the kernel, and then creates device nodes in /dev for them04:22
naliothnooneelse: you also need see restricted formats in the wiki04:22
bob2some people like / to be ro, so /dev is a tmpfs that udev can write to04:22
cafuegocodecaine: it's required (at a minumum) for IPC shared mem (SYSV inter-process communication)04:22
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[Spooky] im so tired of this... we use DHCP in windows i can get access to the internet but not in Ubuntu... dosent ubuntu understand like 192.168.1.x ?04:23
hardw1re:( this kernel compile is taking so long, andi wann goto bed :(04:23
cafuegocodecaine: previously it was inaccessible, in the kernel, it's just mapped to something on disk now.04:23
bob2volvoguy: it should get setup automatically, but I doubt the choice of driver is the problem04:23
adiabaticSpooky: Ubuntu does DHCP fine here....04:23
adiabatic(as a client)04:23
nooneelsenalioth, do u know the name of lib to play divx, mpeg1/2 and this kind of movies ?04:23
bob2[Spooky] : you're being too vague to be helped04:23
hardw1reim using dhcp here too04:23
bob2[Spooky] : DHCP works fine for millions of people, are you perhaps refering to a wireless network?04:23
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[Spooky] adiabatic yes at my home too, but not here...04:23
naliothnooneelse: check your private messages04:23
Concord_DawnHow can I change my Gnome splashscreen?04:23
bob2nooneelse: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:23
nooneelsenalioth,  oops ok04:23
maeSpooky type in ifconfig and tell me in #flood what you get04:24
volvoguybob2, ok. thanks. i'll just assume this card can't be 3d accelerated in linux. (which i thought was the case until I checked the DRI website) .04:24
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Duvel[Spooky] , what does cat /etc/network/interfaces say?04:24
Concord_Dawn!splash04:24
ubotuConcord_Dawn: I give up, what is it?04:24
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Concord_Dawn!splashscreen04:24
ubotusplashscreen is, like, to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)04:24
dabaRhi again.04:24
hardw1rethats a point, glxgears works fine, but under point2play the 3D acclerated test fails04:24
cafuegoConcord_Dawn: Has that repalced gdmconfig, has it?04:25
bob2hardw1re: #cedega04:25
maehardwire, what type of card do you have04:25
dbeeThis connection string should get me through to Seveas' repositories, correct ??  'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu universe'04:25
hardw1reyeah im in there :P04:25
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bob2volvoguy: mmm, I'd be surprised04:25
hardw1renvidia 6800GT04:25
durt!gsynaptics04:25
ubotudurt: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:25
hardw1regymnastics?04:25
naliothdbee: the address is on seveas site04:26
[Spooky] bob2 well the short story is... i have re-installed ubuntu and it didnt do anything when testing the apt-get repositories it took like 20 minutes for each one... when booting i get fail in setting the clock with NTP and i guess its not gonna download any new packages...04:26
bob2[Spooky] : that sounds a lot more like a dud cable04:26
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bob2or something similar, especially if it worked before you reinstalled04:26
hardw1rebob2: how do i build a .deb package?04:27
rubenHola... alguien me podria ayudar.. instale Ubuntu en mi celeron de 1.7 Ghz pero anda un poco lento. Que podra hacer?04:27
dbeenalioth: cool, I'm just wondering whether the bits at the end might be messing it up  ... namely 'ubuntu universe'04:27
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[Spooky] bob2 not in linux, just works in windows... (with the same cable)04:27
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cafuegoConcord_Dawn: gtweakui-session, specifically04:27
bob2hardw1re: of what?04:27
bob2!+spanish04:27
ubotuNo idea, bob204:27
hardw1rethe latest nvidia driver files04:27
cafuego!es04:27
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:27
hardw1rethe 767604:27
bob2ah04:27
rubenOK!04:27
bob2hardw1re: don't bother04:27
codecaineanyone wanting to know about tmpfs briefly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMPFS04:27
cafuegobob2: !+ functionality is disabled04:27
durt!fr04:28
bob2ah04:28
ubotufrom memory, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais04:28
[Spooky] bob2 can i force a ip/dns/gateway ?04:28
bob2[Spooky] : edit /etc/network/interfaces04:28
cafuego(upon request from um, amaranth i think)04:28
Duvel[Spooky] , the same cable? did you release the ip address on the win machine before you plugged the cable in the linux machine?04:28
nooneelseCan I use debian packages into ubuntu ?04:28
dbeenalioth: I seem to be getting a connection timed out when trying to connect ... I guess it's probably a network error then ... I have a fresh install of ubuntu and no firewall (that I know of)04:28
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bob2nooneelse: depends; usually not.04:28
hardw1rebob2: is there a reason why i shouldnt use 7676, or do u mean i should just install it as is from the nvidia site?04:29
nooneelsebob2, why? compatibility ?04:29
kairu0when i run oowriter i get "oowriter no suitable windowing system found, exiting."04:29
kairu0 anyone seen that before?04:29
naliothdbee: hmmm04:29
bob2hardw1re: do you have an actual reason to want that version?04:29
bob2nooneelse: differing dependencies04:29
[Spooky] Duvel used dual... now i just use ubuntu on the machine04:29
nooneelsebob2,  hmm04:29
bob2nooneelse: compiling source packages is generally ok04:29
Duvel[Spooky] , what does cat /etc/network/interfaces say?04:29
dbeenalioth: I'll try pinging him ...04:29
hardw1rewell, from what i can tell the ones on the apt-get are only 71.xx... which is rather out-dated from the 76.xx range04:29
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bob2as long as you tweak the version so it gets replaced by real ubuntu packages04:29
adiabaticRhythmbox is acting funky for me in that the import function seems to be hung on a null.ogg; should I head on over to irc.gnome.org and ask there, or should I wait here for bug reporting?04:30
bob2hardw1re: no, do you have an actual reason?04:30
bob2"OMG THEY R OLD" is not a reason04:30
iiiearsDuvel - do you think installing a gui firewall "Firestarter" would simplify things or just add more fud04:30
hardw1reto test for performance improvement04:30
bob2then I wouldn't bother04:30
nox_is there a way to install a minimal ubuntu, such as debian netinst, so i can choose what packages i want to install ?04:30
[Spooky] Duvel wait im not done with the install yet..04:30
bob2nox_: sure, read the installer options04:30
dabaRHEY, i USED SEVEAS' WIN_MAC PERL SCRIPT, AND sorry about the caps...the ntfs partition mounted, and it hasroot as owner, disallowing me to read files in it. only owner has rx permissions. What can I do?04:30
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bob2[Spooky] : you're still installing?  didn't dhcp time out and ask you to configure it manually?04:31
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dabaRThe permissions can not be changed by chmod.04:31
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[Spooky] bob2 btw i used the reiserfs its ok right?04:31
nox_bob2, is it inside the ubuntu cd or in ubuntuwiki ?04:31
naliothdbee: the site appears to be down atm04:31
cafuegodabaR: edit the fstab entry and add 'uid=1000' in the options section (or whatever YOUR uid is)04:31
[Spooky] bob2 nope04:31
EasterSunshinedabaR: pass uid=1000,gid=1000 to teh mount04:31
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Duveliiiears, it wouldnt hurt, and firestarter is not that hard04:31
bob2[Spooky] : I wouldn't use reiser04:31
cafuego[Spooky] : reiserfs is not the optimal choice, no.04:32
naliothiiiears: read this, but firewalls are not required for home/personal use imho  http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13004:32
bob2nox_: cd04:32
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belal122is there a ICEWM version of ubuntu?04:32
nox_bob2, thanx! :)04:32
dabaRkk, how do I remount them?04:32
naliothbelal122: if you install icewm04:32
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EasterSunshinebelal122: no, but icewm is in the repos, just install it04:32
cafuegobelal122: No, but you can install icewm ON Ubuntu04:32
[Spooky] hehe ok, ext3 is better then ?04:32
cafuego[Spooky] : yes04:32
Duvel[Spooky] , or reiserfs04:32
iiiearsnalioth true. - just a bit easier for new users to manipulate interfaces with a gui.04:32
dbeeiiiears: thanks for the download, only for some reason it couldn't connect ... can we try again ??? cheers04:32
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belal122well, i meant is there a customised version of it with icewm as the default desktop.04:33
Xorlevbelal122: It isn't hard to pop open Synaptic and install IceWM.04:33
iiiearsdbee - yes04:33
harlan_I have a usb kvm switch and when I jump to the other PC the ubuntu freezes ... any way to avoid that?04:33
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dbeenalioth: ya, it's down at the moment ... but yesterday I could point the web broswer at it but I still couldn't get the repositoires04:33
belal122i know xorlev, it's nto that difficult to install it via synaptic.  but a custom icewm distro would be better suited for low end systems.04:34
EasterSunshineis it against the rfc to have korean sylables in folders/files name on a http server?04:34
castingpearlsis anyone using a soundblaster 24-bit live sound card w/ ubuntu??04:34
Duvelbob2, why not use reiser?04:34
naliothdbee: when it comes back up, compare the string you are using to the one on the site04:34
belal122i heard something about a xfce version of ubuntu, but no one seems to be interested in icewm04:34
dabaRhow do I reload my /etc/fstab?04:34
dabaRmount -a?04:34
Xorlevbelal122: I'd much rather the [K] Ubuntu developers focus on improving Ubuntu04:34
ce33nacastingpearls: yes...but it is my son's machine04:34
XorlevdabaR: mount -a04:34
bob2Duvel: the recovery tools are terrible04:34
naliothbelal122: you may make an icewm version, if you like04:34
castingpearlsce33na: how did you configure it?04:34
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dbeenalioth: cool, I'm just wondering though ... how important are the distro and package strings ... is 'ubuntu universe' ok ???04:35
belal122i agree improving the base is and should be the first focus.04:35
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ce33nacastingpearls: to be honest...I don't remember.04:35
iiiearsdbee - something isn't configured. :s04:35
dakotahey i need some help with my screen resolution04:35
nooneelseno doubt... xine is much better than gsstreamer04:35
naliothdbee: they tell apt where to look for the stuff04:35
iiiearsdbee - let me restart xchat04:35
castingpearlsce33na: i'm having the same problem, i HAD it working, but then i did a fresk reinstall and i can't remember what i did04:35
belal122well nalioth, is it difficult to remaster ? i mean i am not that well established in linux but i can work with it04:35
dakotai cant get it to change out of 640 by 48004:35
naliothdbee: so it makes a difference if you want the string to do anything for you04:35
EasterSunshinebelal122: we can't have a different version of ubuntu for every big wm or desktop environment, it would get out of hand04:35
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DekaPinkIf I were to copy the fonts from my Windows XP fonts folder to the fonts directory in my Ubuntu... would that... work? :304:36
EasterSunshineDekaPink: worked for me04:36
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naliothbelal122: there are numerous articles on remastering live/install linux cds04:36
nooneelsedakota, check directly into X config file04:36
nooneelseand set it in there04:36
DekaPinkEasterSunshine: Ginchy. Thanks. :)04:36
dbeeiiiears: sorry, this is my second time using irc, I've just accpeted there ... the status reads connect but nothing's happening04:36
belal122nalioth, how about remastering ubuntu?04:36
dakotahow.... im kind of a noob04:36
iiiearsdbee - not a vteran user here either. sorry. - one last try.04:37
EasterSunshineDekaPink: i don't think i directly copied, i think i did some install thingy from a control panel type-thingie osmewhere04:37
naliothbelal122: http://www.google.com/search?q=remastering+ubuntu+install+cd&ie=UTF804:37
EasterSunshineDekaPink: i just threw in a lot of fonts directly copied from my windows font dir04:37
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belal122thanks nalioth04:37
dbeenalioth: I reckon the error is a TCP one, but if I do connect ... what should I put for distro and package ??04:37
[Spooky] well i dont have any internet on the linux box, and cat /etc/network/interfaces gave me a bunch... the last wrote: iface eth0 inet dhcp04:38
dakotahow to i set my screen resolution in the x config file04:38
dakotahow do i get to that?04:38
naliothdbee: i doubt you'll connect b4 the site gets reset04:38
ce33nacastingpearls: sorry...cant help. I'm in a rental house 80 miles from my real home (work, you know). My wife must have my ssh server box turned off because I cannot log in and go peek at my son's machine right now04:38
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naliothdbee: and when it does, you can check the string there b4 you add it to your apt-get04:38
iiiearsdbee - the filename should give google enough info to find another copy. - would of ben easier if the transfer worked tho.04:38
castingpearlsce33na:  thanks for the help04:38
nooneelsesomeone knows where to find a package to run WMV files ?04:39
dbeeiiiears: thanks anyway iiiears, I appreciate the effort :-)04:39
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ce33nanooneelse: xine will run it if you add the codecs04:39
EasterSunshinenooneelse: there is a w32 codecs pack although i've heard numerous times that it does not worked04:39
iiiearsnooneelse, w32codecs04:39
EasterSunshinenooneelse: it worked me however04:39
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dbeenalioth: it just gives the URI, and doesn't say anything else ...04:39
[Spooky] so anuone have any idea ?04:39
dakotanooneelse, could you show me how to do that plz04:39
dakota?04:39
naliothnooneelse: did you not find the answer at restricted formats?04:40
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naliothdbee: depending on how seveas has set up his repo, depends on what the string is you put in your apt04:40
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nooneelsenalioth, yeah I found the w32codecs04:41
dakotacould somebody help me change my screen resolution it wont do it in the system tools04:41
nooneelsenow I'm searching for it04:41
hardw1rew00t time to check out my kernel i just compiled :D04:41
jasmuzdoes anybody in here successfully run Captive NTFS, i need to know how to operate it04:41
bob2jasmuz: it has no instructions?04:42
darkhearthttp://navindra.blogspot.com/2004/10/kde-dot-news-ext3s-miserable-failure.html04:42
bob2bear in mind it can toast your partitions if it screws up04:42
naliothdakota: check your private msgs04:42
bob2(like any filesystem driver)04:42
ce33naI run Captive on a Red Hat machine once04:42
dakotathanks04:42
[Spooky] hm guess not... i dunno what to do hehe, i wouldnt wanna install windows just to get net running...04:42
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dbeeiiiears: I'm just wondering whether I'd get the same problem I have already though, when I install j2re off the repository it tells me I'm using the wrong libc ... do you reckon it would be worth trying with another jre off the net ???04:42
ce33najasmuz: the Captive NTFS website explained it very well04:42
ce33naIIRC, I made an addition to /etc/fstab04:43
naliothdbee: are you running an intel compatible box?04:43
nooneelsei dont think that write on ntfs is a good idea04:43
bob2[Spooky] : configure it manually then04:43
nooneelseeven using the captive driver04:43
dbeenalioth: yes04:43
iiiearsdbee - a good question wrong libc is a very different error.04:43
naliothnooneelse: not unless you are tired of windows, <snicker>04:43
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[Spooky] bob2 ok how ?04:43
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vader1102Good Evening everyone04:43
bob2darkheart: right, ext3 without hashed directories would be slow04:43
ce33nanooneelse: it really screws with the ntfs file system (is that redundant?)04:44
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cafuegodbee: It's a known bug.04:44
bob2darkheart: but at least yo ucould recover your data ;)04:44
cafuegodbee: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:44
bob2darkheart: (modern ext3 filesystems perform far far better with large dirs)04:44
nalioth_fscking apple hardware04:44
nalioth_fscking linux smp kernels04:44
EasterSunshinewhile we are on the topic, is there any problem with having absurdly big directories in ext3? i'm talking about 100,000 files under a singel dir?04:44
bob2nalioth_: ?04:44
iiiearscafuego - hm - nice link. thx. :)04:44
zblachanyone here know jack about wireless networking?04:44
nalioth_bob2: keeps locking up on my dual proc powermac04:44
bob2[Spooky] : restart the install.  when it probes for dhcp love, what happens?04:44
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dbeecafuego: it seems to be a number of bugs all at once ... I've tried the wiki when I try to install fakeroot, it throws up a free(): pointer error04:45
zblachbob2: shudders at sentence04:45
bob2nalioth_: and mac os X worked fine? (ie, it's not hardware?)04:45
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cafuegozblach: As long as I don't need to calculate angles04:45
bob2zblach: best to ask your question...04:45
nalioths_dogdbee: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 04:45
zblachcafuego, no angles required. i'll do the trig, you get this working04:45
cafuegodbee: installing fakeroot via apt-get gives you an error?04:45
[Spooky] bob2 nothing its doing that fine no complains...04:45
nalioth_bob2 not hardware04:46
zblachcafuego, bob2: card ndiswrappered okay, but it doesn't respond to iwconfig changes, and doesn't detect any wireless networks04:46
dbeecafuego: yes :-( ... I'll try it again04:46
darkheartbob2 =) I dunno either way. Haven't had any hands on testing.04:46
bob2nalioth_: file a bug!04:46
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bob2zblach: ah, you're probably screwed then; unless the ndiswrapper people have ideas.04:46
durtzblach: so the lights are on i assume...04:46
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cafuegozblach: Yeah, unload ndiswrapper, edit /etc/network/interfaces, reload using 'ifup', repeat until it works.04:46
nalioth_bob2 different things trigger the lockup04:46
zblachdurt, yhes04:46
bob2[Spooky] : so it gets a lease and address?04:46
zblachcafuego, serious?04:46
cafuegozblach: yep.04:46
nalioth_dbee: what the dog sent should work just fine for you04:47
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cafuegozblach: That (eventually) made my netgear work.04:47
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vader1102zblach, what card do you have?04:47
nomasteryoda|wzblach, cafuego is right04:47
nalioth_dbee: i've never had any luck d/l java from the repos04:47
jason^so hoary is the newest i can get right?  i can't use something like testing/unstable like in debian?04:47
nomasteryoda|wthat should work04:47
zblachvader1102, WMP11V2704:47
Duvelcafuego, it 'll be ifup eth0 i think?04:47
vader1102what manufacturer04:47
cafuegoDuvel: probably wlan004:47
zblachvader1102, linksys04:47
bob2jason^: you can, but it's more broken than testing and unstable04:47
nomasteryoda|wor ifconfig wlan0 up04:47
Ice9how do I install a program that has a bunch of .class files?04:47
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iiiearscafuego - libc error and java  - How does that happen?04:48
vader1102k hold on04:48
bob2Ice9: find the instructions04:48
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dbeecafuego: cool, it seems to work this time04:48
cafuegonomasteryoda|w: No, that doesn't use the wireless info from /etc/network/interfaces04:48
Ice9bob2 its not in the instructions04:48
bob2iiiears: apt complaining about the vesion of libc6?04:48
zblachcafuego, how to remove?04:48
bob2Ice9: then ask the author04:48
nomasteryoda|wcafuego, ok04:48
cafuegoiiiears: The extras jre package used an incorrect depend.04:48
nomasteryoda|wglad to know that04:48
bob2Ice9: .class files are just java bytecode, you can't do anything useful with them04:48
cafuegozblach: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper04:48
tgall_fooare there any ubuntu ppc users in here?  I'd like to know if the g5 support is running on a ppc64 or ppc kernel04:48
ce33naIce9: is it java04:48
iiiearsbob2 - dbee only said that java complained. - likely didn't get all of the info.04:48
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depravehola04:48
Ice9its called Dvd Ripper04:48
cafuegotgall_foo: iMac G5?04:49
dbeenalioth: ya, I reckon I'll try it via the wiki route again, it seems like fakeroot is behaving itself this time around ... and not freezing my synaptic04:49
tgall_foocafuego, dual g5 tower04:49
cafuegotgall_foo: nalioth should be able to help then, I think04:49
iiiearscafuego - you are going to teach me something yet. - wide grin04:49
iiiearsThanks04:49
cafuegotgall_foo: (I suspect they run 32bit though)04:49
nalioth_bob2: the pisser of it is: every time the machine locks up (doesnt shut down properly) i have to boot into osx and repermission my hfs partitions that i use under ubuntu04:49
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cafuegoiiiears: if only that eating yellow snow is bad...04:50
bob2Ice9: I wouldn't bother using a java application for that04:50
Totalhey guys i have a question?04:50
bob2Ice9: use drip or dvd::rip or thoggen or ..04:50
nalioth_bob2: otw, i cant write to them (not even remounting rw or using sudo)04:50
tgall_foonalioth_, see my q ?04:50
EasterSunshineTotal: don't ask to ask, just ask :)04:50
TraceGreenHello, there is something wrong with my bootsplash, when kernel start my init process, splash change from silent to verbose. what's wrong?04:50
cafuegoTotal: 4204:50
nooneelsenalioth_, I've found a workaround with essential codecs of mplayer libs :)04:50
bob2TraceGreen: on breezy?04:50
EasterSunshineTotal: although no one ever answers me when i ask...04:50
Ice9this one will rip and encode in one process04:50
Totalwhy does the Totem movie player not play dvds04:50
nalioth_tgall_foo: sorry, you didnt preface it with my nick04:50
TraceGreenbob2, sorry, but what is breezy?04:50
cafuegotgall_foo: Actually, it SHOULD be fully supported, I'm fairly sure Linus uses one himself :-)04:50
durtEasterSunshine: ditto04:50
EasterSunshine!breezy04:50
ubotuI heard breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/04:50
nalioth_tgall_foo: what was your question?04:51
iiiearsin a linux channel yellow snow comes from yellowdogs04:51
nooneelseTotal, maybe u need to install the libdvdcss204:51
ce33naIce9: GRIP does it also04:51
TraceGreenbob2, nice to meet you, you helped me a lot .:-)04:51
Totalhow do i do thAT04:51
cafuegoiiiears: I just sneezed onto some white snow...04:51
tgall_foonalioth_, on the g5 support that you have, are you runing the 64 bit kernel?04:51
EasterSunshinetotal: `sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2` perhaps04:51
nalioth_tgall_foo: i'm running power4-smp04:51
cafuegonalioth_: my mistake04:51
cafuegotgall_foo: oops ;-)04:52
tgall_foonalioth_,   uname == ppc64 ?04:52
nooneelseTotal, apt-get install libdvdcss204:52
nalioth_nooneelse: great!04:52
vader1102who was looking for wireless stuff?04:52
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vader1102z????04:52
nomasteryoda|wEasterSunshine, Total you need to add the Hoary backports to sources.list04:52
cafuegotgall_foo: I'm 99% sure it uses a 32bit kernel kernel compiled for G5 specifically and the standard userland.04:52
nalioth_tgall_foo: i think i need a more detailed uname command to get that (all mine says is ubuntu)04:52
nooneelseTotal, and I recommend but just recommend to u to use "apt-get install totem-xine"04:52
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EasterSunshinetotal: do you know about adding repos to your sources.list?04:53
tgall_foonalioth_, do uname -a04:53
nooneelseTotal, before installing the libdvdcss204:53
cafuegotgall_foo: nalioth_ has a dual G4, so it'll be 32bit regardless.04:53
nalioth_cafuego: dual G4?04:53
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nalioth_cafuego: i'm runnin a dual G5 powermac04:53
cafuegonalioth_: didn't you?04:53
cafuegonalioth_: d'oh04:53
dabaR/dev/hda5 /media/18\040GB\040Disk\040(hda5) ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 <--- is it proper? I mean, it is not, I would not ask, bu, what should I fix04:53
Totalno04:53
tgall_foocafuego, power4 != g404:53
Totalits not finding it04:53
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cafuegotgall_foo: yes, I know. The CPU types are different, but I'm sure they both run 32bit Linux04:54
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nooneelseTotal, maybe your mirrors dont have it04:54
Totali dont know04:54
senile_implantdoes anyone know what could cause programs to keep spontaneously closing on me with no sort of error message or anything?04:54
nooneelseTotal, I use the us mirrors04:54
Totalhow would i find out04:54
nomasteryoda|w!dvd04:54
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras04:54
nooneelseTotal, use apt-setup04:54
cafuegotgall_foo: as in: i had to specify a specific kernel on an imac G5 for the LiveCD, but the userland is the standard ppc lot.04:54
nomasteryoda|wTotal, just add that to your list04:54
tgall_foocafuego, well 32 bit user space doesn't mean a 32 bit linux tho ... as on a 64 bit kernel, applications in user space have access to the full 4 gig04:54
naliothtgall_foo: my uname output says nothing about ppc6404:54
EasterSunshinedabar: ntfs ro,umask=0222,uid=dabar,gid=dabar 0 004:54
nooneelseTotal, and set your mirrors to us.archive.ubuntu.org04:54
Totalit says i need a disk04:55
ce33naTotal: you need to add repositories. anyone know how to tell him how to do it without sending him to the webpage we are not supposed to mention04:55
nomasteryoda|wsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss204:55
nooneelseor just choose into HTTP options "united states"04:55
cafuegotgall_foo: SO I doubt it would use the ppc64 kernel - that would (to me) imply it would use ppc64 userland as well, which it doesn't; Ubuntu doesn't have one.04:55
EasterSunshinedabar: replace dabar with your username04:55
nooneelseTotal, no i don't04:55
nomasteryoda|w!repos04:55
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:55
nooneelsecancel this step04:55
tgall_foocafuego, ok .. if you're running on an imac g5 then that has to be ppc64  there's no ppc32 support04:55
nomasteryoda|whehe04:55
senile_implantce33na, why can't you mention a webpage?04:55
naliothcafuego: the installer said "power4" was for ibm power4 proc, and G5s04:55
EasterSunshineguys...please talk slower...04:55
Totalno It says when i typed apt-setup you need disk04:55
dabaREasterSunshine: replace what?04:56
cafuegotgall_foo: It doesn't run, it hands early on04:56
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naliothtgall_foo: i have yet to get ANY linux runnin on my imac G504:56
tgall_foocafuego, well actually you can run 32 bit user space on top of a ppc64 kernel just fine ... have a number of reasons for asking ... see I take care gentoo-ppc64 :-)04:56
ce33na!ubuntuguide04:56
ubotuubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned04:56
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tgall_foonalioth, O? It's actually quite easy .. want directions?04:56
tgall_foonalioth, further .. have you guys thought about supporting other ppc64 boxes besides apple machines ?04:56
nooneelseTotal, then... jump this step04:56
dabaRAlso, I want to let everyone use it, not just my user name, EasterSunshine.04:56
naliothtgall_foo: sure, join ##apple and tell me04:56
ce33nasenile_implant: did that make sense? :)04:56
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nomasteryoda|wTotal, you need to manually edit the file .... sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:56
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EasterSunshinedabaR: basically replace the column that says "ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000" with "ro,umask=0222,uid=dabar,gid=dabar"04:56
nooneelseTotal, cancel etc..etc.. it'll take u in a menu screen04:56
senile_implantce33na, yeah... but i find that site rather useful04:56
remyforbes777 any 64 bit Ubuntu users in here04:57
ce33name too04:57
ce33naI don't need an explanation04:57
nomasteryoda|wTotal, save, then close, then sudo apt-get update04:57
EasterSunshinedabaR: that will set you as the owner, but the permissions will be r-wr-wr-w04:57
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nomasteryoda|wTotal, apt is already installed04:57
jasmuzdoes anybody in here successfully run Captive NTFS, i need to know how to operate it (figured how to properly install but i dont know the commands)04:57
EasterSunshinedabaR: you HAVe to have an user and group owner, might as well make it yourself04:57
dabaRright04:57
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EasterSunshinedabaR: after you have updated fstab, unmount it, and remount it04:57
senile_implantdoes anyone know what could cause programs to keep spontaneously closing on me with no sort of error message or anything?04:57
senile_implantor how i would go about investigating it04:58
Totalah the apt-get install totem-xine worked04:58
zerboxxWhen I plug in my usbkey, it says that it's 19.9 megs, but it's actually 128...whats wrong?!?!04:58
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EasterSunshinesenile_implant: segmentation faults...04:58
jasmuzzerboxx: is it 128 on a windoze box?04:58
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Totalits unpacking something04:58
jchicohey, anybody good with wine knows what it means when it says "wineserver permission denied" ?04:58
EasterSunshinesenile_implant: maybe run them from a terminal, then at least you will be able to see the exit status, or if it returns an error to stdout04:58
senile_implantEasterSunshine, what would cause them to occur? (sorry if this is a really broad question)04:58
zerboxxjasmuz: I haven't checked, but it should be04:58
jchicothing is driving me nuts...04:58
dabaRstill not working. it says root is owner, and that only he can rx.04:59
bob2jchico: try #winehq04:59
EasterSunshinesenile_implant: i am not 100% sure they are segfaults, thats why run them from a terminal04:59
jasmuzzerboxx: souns like a corrupted fat16, you shoud repartition it if its not 128 under windows04:59
bob2dabaR: show us the output of "mount | grep /whever/you/mounted/it"04:59
jchicothanks bob204:59
dabaRchanged to user, saved, closed, umounted, mounted -a.04:59
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EasterSunshinesenile_implant: if anything goes wrong, there will definetely be something in the terminal for you04:59
senile_implantEasterSunshine, good idea... except sometimes they don't crash for days. And it's not always one particular program, there are at least 3 that crash on me04:59
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zerboxxjasmuz: Should I try that anyways?04:59
senile_implantEasterSunshine, thanks for the advice though, I'll try that04:59
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zblachback05:00
oniIs there a good way to view embbeded flash movies on firefox over PPC?05:00
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Br34chsorry for the bother, but could someone please link me to to the howto that explains installing Ubuntu on a low-spec computer? :x05:00
jasmuzzerboxx: no, first check05:00
[Spooky] well no luck in getting internet.... guess i have to use the shitty windows :/05:00
OrbordeI have a problem. I broke sudo.05:00
zerboxxjasmuz: Ok..lemme see what I can do :)05:00
zblachbob2, who was i talking to earlier?05:00
naliothBr34ch: wiki.ubuntu.com05:00
jasmuzciao ppl05:00
dbeenalioth: Hi, with regards to downloading the java bin files ... I can just dive right in and download the JDK .bin can't I ??? or should I try to install the JDK first05:00
Br34chthanks05:00
bob2[Spooky] : er, why?  install ubuntu, fix up network later.  enjoy!05:00
dabaRare you sure there is output? I dont htink I got any. I umounted it again, then sudo mount | grep /media/18whaeva05:01
OrbordeMy sudo command = busted. What do I do?05:01
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Luna-TickGuys,05:01
bob2dabaR: what? no.  run that while it's mounted.05:01
EasterSunshinedabar: what is the problem with it? can you cd into it and list the contents of the disk?05:01
dbeenalioth: oops, I meant to say should I install the JRE first !!05:01
bob2Orborde: you need to be a ton less vague05:01
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[Spooky] bob2 ubuntu is installed, and i dont have any use of it without internet...05:01
naliothdbee: follow the dogs directions, they work well05:01
Orbordebob2: Okay, let me get sample output.05:01
dabaRwait, wait, I se something.05:01
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naliothdbee: for most people05:01
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dabaRyay, I got what you wanted now.05:02
Luna-TickIs there a way to play DVDs with gstreamer totem? It all works fine with totem-xine, but I think that the lack of libdvdcss is stopping me playing dvds through the gstreamer setup05:02
dabaRyaya, rather.05:02
bob2[Spooky] : edit /etc/network/interfaces then05:02
nate_Okay quick question05:02
OrbordeThis is what I'm getting: $ sudo do stuff05:02
Orbordesudo: must be setuid root05:02
EasterSunshinedabaR: you got what YOU wanted or what WE wanted...?05:02
nate_I want to rip only a certain part of a song, anyway at all to do this?05:02
Br34ch[@bob2 ] : [Spooky] : er, why? install ubuntu, fix up network later. enjoy! <-- fix up network . . . hmm, how far to an extent can I "do" stuff from network? Because I have a laptop on which I installed ubuntu a few weeks ago . . . then crashed it. I went around everywhere desperately trying to somehow save the stuff that was on the hard drive.. but just today I decided I would simply start fresh :x05:02
bob2Orborde: paste the full output of "mount" to #flood05:02
[Spooky] bob2 with what, what should i put in there ?05:02
senile_implantEasterSunshine, if something does happen to cause a seg fault and I get some sort of an error in the terminal, how will I be able to debug that?05:02
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bob2nate_: sure, cdparanoia has options for that.  way way easier to rip the whole thing and snip the bit you want out later, tho.05:03
zblachbob2, can you repeat what you told me earlier? system crash05:03
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bob2[Spooky] : a text editor, join #flood05:03
bob2zblach: I don't remember05:03
dabaRgood fixed, thanks.05:03
ce33naOrborde: are you trying to access sudo from the first user account that was set up?05:03
dbeenalioth: all it says is to 'download the self-extracting linux files' ?? ... oh, well ... I guess I'll grab the jre first and then take it from there05:03
EasterSunshinesenile_implant: i don't think you can just FIX segfaults, they are usually problems in the programs design05:03
zblachbob2, something about removing ndiswrapper and using ifup a whole bunch05:03
bob2Br34ch: I don't get your question...05:03
nate_Okay ripping the whole thing and snipping it out can be done with cdparanoia? Also would I run apt-get install cdparanoia? bob2?05:03
EasterSunshinesenile_implant: but then there is always the option of trying other versions, if the segfault was on an unstable05:04
Orbordebob2: Pasted05:04
bob2zblach: if you're having problems with ndiswrapper, go talk to the ndiswrapper people, they're way mroe likely to know about it05:04
[Spooky] bob2 yes, but what should i type in it ? you see im not that guru in linux...05:04
bob2nate_: no05:04
zblach.join #ndiswrapper05:04
Orbordece33na: Yes. I have admin-rights enabled. I think.05:04
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EasterSunshinesenile_implant: a segfault is when your program tries to access memory outside its allocated space05:04
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bob2nate_: you rip it however you normally would (grip is nice), then use sweep to cut the bit of the track yo uwant05:04
senile_implantEasterSunshine, well the programs that are crashing regularly are kicker, mozilla-firefox and opera (to name a few) so i don't see how they could be poorly coded05:04
bob2[Spooky] : join the freaking channel and I'll show you05:04
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senile_implantEasterSunshine, could it be a hardware issue?05:04
EasterSunshinesenile_implant: then maybe its not a segfault. wait for another crash05:05
nomasteryoda|wsenile_implant, well we see the problem... kde05:05
nomasteryoda|w=)05:05
EasterSunshineyeah, i'll admit kde's pretty buggy05:05
senile_implantnomasteryoda|w, ...05:05
Br34chbob2: if ubuntu can be installed over network, could it maybe serve help troubleshooting the problems that are already on my laptop? Because X doesn't work.. and lots of things on the mere hard drive seem to have been erased, including a few very essential things. Although luckily, my personal files still seem to exist . . . I wish to somehow save those :x05:05
nomasteryoda|wkicker is kde app05:05
[Spooky] bob2 done05:05
bob2Orborde: and "ls -ld /usr/bin/sudo"05:05
oniwill neverwinter nights install in a PPC?05:05
bob2oni: do you have the linux/ppc version of the game?05:05
senile_implanti still like kde better than gnome05:05
EasterSunshinenomasteryoda|w: the other two aren't...05:05
nomasteryoda|wright05:05
EasterSunshinesenile_implant: watch out you'll start a major flame war =/05:06
nomasteryoda|wbut gtk causes issues with those05:06
Orbordebob2: Pasted to #flood05:06
naliothdbee: did you see what nalioths_dog sent you?05:06
senile_implantnomasteryoda|w, it was happening in gnome too before i switched to kde05:06
bob2Br34ch: yes, using the livecd is an excellent way to fiddle with broken systems05:06
onibob2: I'm downloading the resources05:06
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senile_implantEasterSunshine, lol i don't care05:06
nomasteryoda|wsenile_implant, do the memory test then05:06
bob2oni: is that a yes or a no?05:06
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bob2Orborde: "someone" removed the setuid bit05:06
senile_implantnomasteryoda|w, how do i do the memory test?05:06
nomasteryoda|wsenile_implant, on boot the bottom option should be Ubuntu memtest05:06
bob2Orborde: reboot to recovery mode and run "chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo"05:07
nomasteryoda|wer, hit Esc then choose it05:07
bob2Orborde: and tell that "someone" not to play with chmod in future...05:07
onibob2: I don't have the client yet if that is what you mean05:07
nomasteryoda|wi forget ... i turn off hiddenmenu05:07
senile_implantnomasteryoda|w, ok I'll try that if i can't figure it out without rebooting. thanks05:07
bushrat+i05:07
Br34chbob2: livecd eh, never had heard anything of it. Could you perhaps link me to somewhere precise (or keywords I could hit the search engines with) where I could get a bit more info? :o05:07
bob2oni: no, it's not what I mean05:07
nomasteryoda|wsenile_implant, you can do an strace05:07
volvoguycan i transform a RAID0 array into a RAID1 array? even though the device name is the same, it doesn't seem to want to boot when i move the second drive to the second ide bus.05:07
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bob2Br34ch: it's in the same dir as where you downloaded the ubuntu install cd from05:07
EasterSunshineBr34ch: look on ubuntulinux.org, download page05:08
nomasteryoda|wsenile_implant, type man strace to read about it05:08
onibob2: then you're meaning a PPC version of the client? I'm asking if it exists05:08
nomasteryoda|wquite handy debugging tool05:08
senile_implantnomasteryoda|w, already doing that :D05:08
volvoguyi don't think you can set one disk of a RAID0 array as missing temporarily.05:08
Orbordebob2: Actually, I did that myself, because I'm a MORON05:08
bob2volvoguy: if you're talking abotu software raid, best to include that keyphrase in your question ;)05:08
Br34chGot it, thanks05:08
senile_implantnomasteryoda|w, (the man part i mean, cuz i have no idea what strace is)05:08
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nomasteryoda|wsenile_implant, hehe05:08
volvoguybob2, sorry.... yes. software raid as configured during a hoary install.05:08
bob2oni: if there's a mac os x one, it might run in MOL05:08
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nate_I'm not getting sound through Grip, is there a fix?05:08
nomasteryoda|wsenile_implant, i never used until 3 days ago... to debug OpenSuSE 10b2 issue05:09
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[Spooky] bob2 im waiting...05:09
senile_implantnomasteryoda|w, did you figure it out?05:09
bob2nate_: er, weren't you trying to rip a song from a cd?05:09
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bob2[Spooky] : there you go05:09
onibob2: I want to run it native05:09
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bob2oni: and I want a pony05:10
nomasteryoda|wsenile_implant, well i was able to submit a bugzilla report to Novell... and they are working it... it was way to involved for my limited programming skilz05:10
jorgphow do I inject a package, make dpkg think it's installed?05:10
Totalhow do i get libdvdcss05:10
bob2jorgp: apt-cache show equivs05:10
onibob2: there IS a native version of NWN for Linux 05:10
bob2Total: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:10
[Spooky] bob2 and it dosent matter where i type it in the file ?05:10
bob2oni: for ppc?05:10
nomasteryoda|wbut then again, it was the YaST installer... lots of proprietary code there05:10
bob2[Spooky] : er05:10
onibob2: I'm just asking if that native version runs on PPC05:10
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bob2[Spooky] : put it at the end05:10
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[Spooky] bob2 ok05:10
Totalwithout having to go to a website05:10
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dbeenalioth: ???? who or what is nalioths_dog ?05:10
bob2presumably you wouldn't drop lines in the middle of the existign contents05:10
[Spooky] bob2 then reboot ?05:11
bob2Total: why can't you read the wiki?05:11
nalioths_dogdbee: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 05:11
bob2[Spooky] : after modifying to match your network, no05:11
cafuegodbee: how bout a dog, that belongs to nalioth?05:11
bob2[Spooky] : sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart05:11
naliothdbee: my helpful hound, full of knowledge (and other stuff)05:11
zblachcrap, my sound just died05:11
[Spooky] bob2 thanks, gonna try it out...05:11
bob2oni: so, you're asking "Will the Linux/i386 version of NWN run on Ubuntu/PPC?"?05:11
bob2"no"05:11
bob2try using qemu05:11
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jorgpbob2: thanks05:12
nate_yeah, bob2, but with Grip you can rip a certain part of a song by setting sectors, I just found this, but when I try to hear the music, I'm not hearing anything, and when i try to play CDs, I'05:12
nate_m not hearing anything05:12
dbeedbee: ahhhh ... I see now ... good boy nalioths_dog05:12
onibob2: nope at all, I'm asking "Is the NWN Linux Client aviliable for PPC?"05:12
ce33naTotal: there are a lot of files that need to be installed for flawless dvd playback. better read the instructions05:12
Luna-Ticktotal : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-678652e98460a8972499ef8dd9982e15f3e0d67105:12
bob2nate_: you can't play cds with grip if your computer is missing the 10c cable linking the sound card to the cd drive05:12
Luna-TickSorry05:12
nate_oh...o-o05:13
bob2Total: if you'd just read the website, you'd be watching a movie by now05:13
volvoguyback to my software raid issue.... when booting it seems to choke because the uuid is different when drive two is moved to IDE bus two. might it boot if i just comment out the uuid section of mdadm.conf?05:13
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zblachhey, what do i do to save my settings after running alsamixer?05:14
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naliothoni: if the source code is available, it will run on ppc (most things do, anyway)05:15
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ce33naTotal: when you get everything needed for dvd playback...study up on "hdparm"05:15
oniI'll try05:15
onithanks nalioth05:15
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J_Phi all05:15
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phayze2hmm, i'd like to comment05:16
phayze2ubuntu is amazing05:16
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oniphayze2 sure it is05:16
ce33naphaze2: new to linux?05:16
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phayze2i've tried fedora core 4 for awhile05:16
J_Ppeople, not are more diponible sun-j2re1.5 in backports ?05:16
phayze2it didn't seem all that stable05:17
J_Pacroread not too ?05:17
ce33naphayze2: ouch05:17
EasterSunshinece33na: do you know about nick completion? on most clients, you can press tab when you have typed someones name in halfway05:17
phayze2yeah, it was killer05:17
Viziriis there a quick way to install all codecs to play dvd's avi's quicktime etc05:17
ce33naEasterSunshine: old habits you know05:17
ce33naViziri: I don't know of a quick way05:17
EasterSunshineViziri: `apt-cache search codec` and then `sudo apt-get install all the codecs that you found`05:17
durtuse gpdf or evince05:18
J_Panyone can help install java in hoary ?05:18
naliothViziri: install all gstreamer plugins (after enabling all the official repos)05:18
ch107783Viziri you can go to mrbass.org and download the unofficial ubuntu add-on CD05:18
durt!java05:18
ubotusomebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:18
ch107783it will setup practically everything05:18
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EasterSunshineuh oh there are 87 packs with "codec" in it05:19
Vizirigood idea EasterSunshine :) - but will i be installing more codecs than i really need05:19
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Totalhey bob answer this please how do i get libdvdcss205:19
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EasterSunshineViziri: yes05:19
phayze2sudo apt-get libdvdcss205:19
naliothViziri: they dont take up much room05:19
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volvoguyTotal, it's in hoary-extras from the backports project.05:20
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tritiumhey nalioth :)05:20
EasterSunshineTotal: do `sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2` after you have updates your sources.list05:20
Drewfusch107783 it failed install again05:20
Drewfusit cant find the kernel05:20
ch107783it did05:20
Viziriok thanks guys. I was about to reinstall but finally got my speedtouch modem working ;)05:20
[Spooky] bob2 hm that didnt work :/05:20
ch107783you ran the sh NVIDIA from /usr/src?05:21
J_Pi i forget uncomment lines backports here :-)05:21
J_Psorry05:21
Totalhow do i update my source list05:21
tritiumAfter 3 weeks fighting with comcast, I'm back online05:21
Drewfusyeah05:21
ch107783that is crazy05:21
Totalapt-get upgrade source-list05:21
durtyes, comcast pisses me off sometimes05:21
jorgpis there a breezy extras?05:21
naliothjorgp: not yet05:21
tritiumno kidding, durt05:21
ch107783one last thing try this ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 linux05:21
ch107783then try it again05:22
nalioths_dogTotal: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3805:22
nalioths_dogTotal: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:22
Drewfusin a terminal with x?05:22
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Drewfusor without05:22
jorgpnalioth: will the hoary extras work?05:22
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ksmurf!alsa05:22
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206305:22
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jorgpnalioth: in breezy05:22
ch107783you can do it in a terminal preferably without so that you can try and run the command05:22
naliothjorgp: breezy is very new to have 'extras'05:22
ce33naTotal: you have to manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list    that is why you need to check the documentation05:23
naliothjorgp: you may havta install from source05:23
[Spooky] well back to windows then...05:23
oninoooooo!!05:23
onixD05:23
steveO_Laptophello all can some one tell me how to disable raid? dont need it on my laptop05:23
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ce33naslap that man on the ctrl-alt-del05:23
fabsoft#backports05:24
fabsoftdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted05:24
fabsoftdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted05:24
volvoguysteveO_Laptop, what kind of laptop?05:24
onihey! careful with Ethan tha man05:24
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onixD05:24
Drewfusok ill try that05:24
steveO_Laptoptoshbia 7010 300 mhz with 128 ram05:24
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onisomeone here reads Ctrl+Alt+Del Webcomic?05:25
steveO_Laptopvolvoguy,  toshbia 7010 300 mhz with 128 ram05:25
J_Phey, i think not have uncomment, but are uncomment yes backports lines..05:25
volvoguysteveO_Laptop, wow - they did raid way back then? on my portege S100 the only way to do it seems to be in the bios - which warns it will destroy all the data on the drive. (so i haven't done so yet).05:25
J_Pbut not found java.. :-905:25
J_P:-(05:25
J_P!java05:25
ubotujava is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:26
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steveO_Laptopvolvoguy,  the install was done on a HP then the harddrive was put into the old toshiba and re-config X and the hardware.. Im trying to speed up the boot time right now it takes 3 min and runs slow05:27
steveO_Laptopvolvoguy, that was a bad idea installing that way but couldnt the the cdrom to boot05:28
cafuego_!status05:28
volvoguysteveO_Laptop, i'm not sure then. i'm guessing my new Toshiba is pretty different than yours.05:28
ksmurfhow can I get my sound to load at startup instead of always having to go into alsa mixer and unmute?05:28
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volvoguysteveO_Laptop, on mine, hoary didn't recognize the cdrom at all during install - but that part is working better as of the Breezy Colony 3 release. i still wouldn't recommend that on a system that you need to keep working yet though.05:30
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steveO_Laptopvolvoguy, ok thanks05:30
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cafuegomuch better05:31
volvoguysteveO_Laptop, you could always join the laptop testing team and report how things work. then you could try and get laptop specific help in the ubuntu-laptop channel.05:31
c0rrupt_problem installing nessus please help____ http://pastebin.com/34654205:31
steveO_Laptopvolvoguy, thats a good idea for i have 8 laptops and 16 computers here05:32
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steveO_Laptop:)05:32
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volvoguysteveO_Laptop, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting05:32
remyforbes777i need a prod key for tablet XP05:32
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Totalapt-get upgrade source-list05:33
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amonkeyi have a ttf font, can i use that in gimp, and how?05:33
TotalI can find libdvdread305:33
cafuego_remyforbes777: Go ask for warez somewhere else, otherwise you'll get banned.05:33
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Drewfusch10778305:33
remyforbes777sorry05:33
Totalbut what am i supposed to do after that05:33
shamusCould someone reccomend me a good cd ripper for ubuntu?05:33
cafuego_AND it's not a ubuntu question05:33
Drewfusdo i go to linux-source?05:33
Drewfusthe dir05:33
Drewfusor am i supposed to run something05:33
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ch107783yeah05:33
Drewfuswhat do i do once im in that dir05:34
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ch107783where /usr/src05:34
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Drewfuslinux-source05:34
ce33nashamus: I like grip05:34
ch107783you creat a link in /usr/src05:34
Drewfusto what05:34
c0rrupt_problem installing nessus please help -> http://pastebin.com/34654205:34
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Drewfusto the folder?05:35
Drewfusor to the tar05:35
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zoexihey, this might be the wrong channel, but... does anyone know how to make gimp remember a save to location and file format?  I can't figure it out..05:35
ch107783like this: ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 linux05:35
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ch107783to the folder05:35
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cafuego_c0rrupt_: You're having a problem COMPILING nessus, not INSTALLING nessus.05:35
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ch107783type that exactly and you should get the link05:35
Drewfusi did that but now that im in the browser i dont see a link05:35
ch107783created05:35
cafuego_c0rrupt_: apt-get install nessus. Stop breaking your syste,/05:35
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ch107783ls -lah in a terminal you should see linux and it should have an l at the beginning05:36
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ch107783ls -lah /usr/src05:36
Vizirihmm, just to confirm Citrix ICA Client for Linux is not on install disc right?05:36
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ch107783lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     src        22 2005-08-07 22:17 linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-505:36
Drewfusi typed that and it doesnt say it did anything05:36
volvoguywe should have told remyforbes777 that we have an OS that doesn't require a key. ;-)05:37
ksmurfcafuego... if you install nessus that way why does the error about out of date plugins keep coming up in scans?05:37
Drewfuswhat?05:37
Drewfusoh05:37
ch107783Viziri you can dload it05:37
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cafuego_ksmurf: Lack of running /usr/sbin/nessus-update-pugins I expect05:37
ViziriI am right now05:37
linuxpoetHello folks05:37
linuxpoetWhat package am I missing05:37
linuxpoetchecking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:37
linuxpoetgcc is installed05:37
linuxpoetcpp is installed05:37
cafuego_ksmurf: ... of whatever that tool is called these days.05:38
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c0rrupt_cafuego,05:38
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c0rrupt_old nessus is crap05:38
Drewfuswhat is the link supposed to be named05:38
c0rrupt_i need the new one05:38
cafuego_c0rrupt_: No, you don't.05:38
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c0rrupt_..05:38
cafuego_c0rrupt_: install messus, run 'sudo nessus-update-plugins'05:38
c0rrupt_yes, because the old one has all of these update errors05:38
ch107783linux05:38
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Drewfuswhy linux05:38
linuxpoetAny thoughts?05:39
ch107783standard05:39
c0rrupt_i "can't" update plugins05:39
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Drewfusnamed what05:39
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cafuego_c0rrupt_: Then get the nessus source deb, replace the source with the tarball source you downloaded and build a NEW nessus using dpkg-buildpackage, so you get installable .deb files.05:40
ch107783it's a standard to link linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-505:40
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Drewfusheaders or source?05:40
cafuego_compiling (suid root!) stuff when you have no idea what you're doing is not clever.05:40
Drewfusoh i see05:40
c0rrupt_prolly05:40
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cafuego_though admittedly your error appears to be an erro in the nessus Makefile05:41
Drewfusok theres a link there, now do i go try the install again?05:41
ch107783Oh my bad05:41
ch107783yeah try it again05:41
ksmurfI'm recompiling alsa for my audigy 2 ... is there a walk though for the answers.....05:41
Drewfusok ill be back in a little05:42
cafuego_ksmurf: backport the 1.0.9a breezy packages05:42
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cafuego_ksmurf: they might even be in hoary-backports05:42
ksmurfk thanks05:42
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vortek_hello05:43
vortek_I just installed the k7 kernel image.. And It locks up on boot.. stating ACPI  VENDER COMAPQ "TYPO IN CODE" System Eagles Revision 0x6040000  has a know ACPI Bios problem .  Acpi : Reason : SCI issues (c2 disabled) this is a recoverable error.... AND IT JUST Hangs  ] for ever ..05:43
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vortek_know-known05:43
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coolguy!05:43
ubotuNot a clue, coolguy05:43
c0rrupt_cafuego, source at nessus.org?05:44
zblachwlan0 : No Scan results, when theres clearly a network available05:44
vortek_its a laptop05:44
c0rrupt_zblach, are you in managed mode?05:44
zblachyuo05:44
zblach***yes05:44
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bensonQuestion:  I'm trying to get access to a folder, but I do chmod commands and it says it changes it but it stays dx-r05:46
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EasterSunshinebenson: is it a non-ext3 mounted thingie?05:48
bensonyes05:48
EasterSunshinebenson: ntfs?05:48
bensonyes05:48
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zerboxxAnyone here who uses wireless with ubuntu, do you recommend any other programs?05:48
EasterSunshinebensom: `sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever /mount/point -o ro,umask=0222,uid=benson,gid=benson`05:48
EasterSunshinebenson: replace "bensom" with your username in that command05:49
bensonso i need to umount it first05:49
mark_hello!  i have a weird display issue I was hoping someone might be able to help with05:49
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mark_im using intel 810 on-board video.05:49
vortek_ahh well its obvious a stock k7 kernel is not gona work so ill have to make a custom one05:49
vortek_:P05:49
kirtisbenson, If you're trying to write to it, you can't ntfs is read-only by default.05:49
EasterSunshinebenson: otheriwse, if you want to do it via fstab, under the options column, put ro,umask=0222,uid=benson,gid=benson05:49
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EasterSunshinebenson: and then unmount and remount05:49
mark_for some reason when I open a properties window, then change tabs, i get white stripes through the properties window05:49
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TylerEWhats the proper way to install TTF fonts with ubuntu?05:50
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kirtisTylerE, copy them to ~/.fonts/05:50
darkheartvortek_ Try disabling ACPI in your BIOS.05:50
TylerEkirtis: then restart X?05:50
kirtisTylerE, no need.05:50
vortek_darkheart, no option to do  that05:50
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EasterSunshinebenson: yes, unmount it first05:50
ksmurf!alsa05:50
ubotusomebody said alsa was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206305:50
darkheartvortek_ Ouch05:50
vortek_darkheart, the install kernel works though but its slow05:50
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vortek_its generic 38605:51
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bensonok so give me that sudo mount line again, say if i wanted it to mount to /mnt/drive?05:51
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mark_could anybody help me with a weird display problem?  i have a screenshot05:51
bensonkirtis:  I learned the hard way about writing to NTFS05:51
EasterSunshinebenson: `sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/drive -o ro,umask=0222,uid=benson,gid=benson`05:51
EasterSunshinebenson: replace /dev/hdwhatever with teh proper partition, and benson with your username05:52
zoexiOK,  can someone recomend an alternative to GIMP for simple scanning with an Xsane compatible device?  I need to scan a large number of documents of equal size and save them directly to jpg format without editing/05:52
EasterSunshinebenson: unmount first with `sudo umount /mnt/drive`05:52
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bensonsweet, your a god send, thanks man05:52
Drewfusch107783 nothing05:53
|Imp|how do i reconfigure X from command line?05:53
EasterSunshinebenson: np ^_^05:53
|Imp|dpkg something...05:53
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|Imp|i forget what the command is05:53
kirtis|Imp|, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:53
|Imp|thankyou05:53
mark_hello?05:53
c0rrupt_www.nessus.org work for anyone?05:54
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Drewfuscan anyone help me with nvidia drivers?05:56
EasterSunshineDrewfus: have you tried the wiki?05:56
EasterSunshineDrewfus: most ppl come in asking that and find the answer on it05:56
Drewfusno i dont think so, i tried it the nvidia way but the installer cant find the kernel05:57
mattyJisnt there a bot to throw out links for that05:57
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Drewfusill try thi wiki05:57
mattyJ!nvidia05:57
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:57
vortek_hrmm i got these debian sarge cd's05:57
|Imp|Drewfus, that is because you need the kernel headers05:57
vortek_ill just pull the source off them05:57
cafuego_Drewfus: sudo apt-get install module-assistant; sudo m-a05:57
durtDrewfus: install nvidia-glx05:57
vortek_as long as its not the .6.7 buggy acpi05:57
mattyJlol like 5 people all told him different things05:57
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cafuego_nvidia-glx isn't going to do much good without the kernel driver05:58
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jameshow do I install dosbox?05:58
cafuego_Drewfus: Oh, you're running a precompiled kernel, right?05:58
Drewfusyeah05:58
kirtisjames, sudo apt-get install dosbox, or search for it in synaptic05:59
naliothcafuego_: how did you figure i was on dual-G4s?05:59
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cafuego_Drewfus: enable the 'restricted' repository05:59
naliothjames: use synaptic05:59
ksmurfwhat is that command to save your alsa settings?05:59
jamesthank you05:59
cafuego_nalioth: brain damage05:59
Drewfusenable what?05:59
naliothcafuego_: not dain bramage?05:59
cafuego_nalioth; I'm sure you'd told me before they were G5's.05:59
durtcafuego_: isnt it enable by default?05:59
cafuego_durt: No idea05:59
ixizGoodmorning for somebody I guess :P06:00
Drewfusi did the apt-get and im in the module assistant but i dont know what to do06:00
cafuego_Drewfus: the restricted repository. Run 'apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules' - is there anything that matches your kernel version?06:00
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Drewfusupdate?06:00
ian_is there a way to run an extension in firefox with out going to the menu of firefox? (example a softphone (mozphone))..06:00
cafuego_Drewfus: No, you don't need m-a if you run a precompiled kernel; there is a precompiled nvidia module for it.06:01
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user06malang06:01
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Drewfusi think so06:01
kirtisDrewfus, You're doing it the hard way.. easy way is sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, then open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"06:01
durtDrewfus: listen to kirtis06:02
ch107783http://ubuntuguide.org/ hit ctrl +f and search for NVIDIA06:02
ch107783it will tell you ubuntu's way06:02
cafuego_Drewfus: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'  - that will fetch the kernel and X modules.06:02
cafuego_Drewfus: Then run 'sudo /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config' to enable it.06:02
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Tribunekb3 burning program can intall in ubuntu?06:03
cafuego_Tribune: yes06:03
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Tribunesudo apt-get install kb3 ?06:04
kebantingtribune: yes ... use sudo apt-get install kb306:04
cafuego_Tribune: yes06:04
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Tribunethanks06:04
naliothTribune: actually its k3b06:04
Drewfus/usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config called with unknown command:06:04
DrewfusUsage: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config [enable|disable] 06:04
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Drewfus?06:05
kebantingtribune: for install kb3 ..06:05
cafuego_Drewfus: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config enable06:05
XIIIhi, how could i clean up my dev from cached downloaded packages?06:05
kebantingopppss ... k3b i mean ....06:05
cafuego_sudo apt-get (auto-)clean06:05
Drewfusnow do i go kill all and install drivers?06:05
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cafuego_Drewfus: logout, hit ctrl-alt-backspace06:06
Drewfusyeah06:06
kirtisXIII, remove the stuff in /var/cache/apt/archives/06:06
cafuego_Drewfus: that should be all there is to it.06:06
ksmurfwhat is that command to save your alsa settings?06:06
XIIIcafuego should i type it like that?06:06
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Drewfuswhat about installing the drivers?06:06
XIIIkirtis all of them?06:06
cafuego_XIII: No. either 'sudo apt-get autoclean' (this removed only OLD stuff, but leaves recent stuff) or 'sudo apt-get clean' (removed everything)06:06
durtksmurf: um... i think alsamixer saves them automatically06:07
Tribunekebanting? are you from jakarta?06:07
kirtisXIII, actually probably better to do what the other guy said.06:07
XIIIok06:07
XIIIthnx06:07
ksmurfdurt most times but there is a command to save them06:07
cafuego_Drewfus: If you installed the linux-restricted-modules-VERSION package for yuor kernel, they'll be there.06:07
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durtksmurf, just hit q to exit and i think youre fine06:07
Ahsanhello06:08
XIIIroot@server:/home/sting # apt-get autoclean06:08
XIIIE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:08
Ahsani wanted to ask something about the installation06:08
Drewfusi dont know if i did that06:08
XIIIthat's what i got06:08
Drewfusunless thats one of the things you told me to do06:08
ksmurfI've done that 15 times so far tonight and recompiled the alsa drivers....... I'm not fine.06:08
bimberiXIII: are you running synaptic?06:08
kirtisXIII, put an sudo in front06:08
Ahsani downloaded the CD image of linux06:08
cafuego_XIII: make sure apt, synaptic or aptitude aren't running06:08
ycomb I read not to update Breezy yesterday due to cairo-glitz being pulled upstream and thus gtk / gnome libs being rebuilt. Today update is trying to replace all the gnome / bonobo / cairo libs. Is it (relatively) safe to take these now?06:08
Ahsanand i burned it06:08
Ahsanbut i m not able to install it properly06:08
Ahsani read bout some installer06:08
Ahsanbut i cannot seem to make it work06:08
XIIIaha, thnx cafuego it's already in use, synaptic06:08
cafuego_ycomb: the trash applet and firefox are broken here06:09
Ahsancan anyone help me?06:09
XIIIkirtis i always log as root in the terminal06:09
ycombcafuego_: thx, that won't bother me at all :)06:09
kirtisXIII, yea i just noticed that.06:09
XIII:)06:09
Ahsancan anyone help me?06:09
XIIIkirtis i can't run realplayer06:09
XIIIit always says i've it installed but always doesn't run06:10
TribuneAhsan.... what type of help?06:10
Ahsancan anyone explain me the steps that I have to take inorder to install the installer and to get my installation started06:10
kirtisXIII, what happens when you run it from a terminal?06:10
XIIInever runs06:10
Ahsani downloaded the linux ubuntu06:10
kirtisXIII, okay, but do you get an error..?06:10
Ahsani burned the cd06:10
DekaPinkIs there a way I can capture streaming video clips?06:10
Ahsanbut when i boot my PC06:11
XIIIyeah wait06:11
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XIIIroot@server:/home/sting # realplayer06:11
XIIIbash: realplayer: command not found06:11
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Ahsanand use the BIOS for the computer to boot CD-ROM..it doesnt start06:11
durtAhsan: you burned it as an image, right?06:11
Ahsanis there any special step that i have to take tTribune06:11
Ahsanyeah ISO image06:11
cafuego_why are you running everything as root?06:11
Tribuneimage iso.....06:11
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kirtisXIII, well that just means that's not what the executable is called.. how'd you install it?06:11
deFryskXIII, realplay06:12
ksmurfdoes anyone know the command to save your alsa settings?06:12
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ycombahsan-what OS did you burn from06:12
Ahsanbut it doesnt start..it says Boot disk failure06:12
AhsanXP06:12
XIIIdeFrysk doesn't work too06:12
XIIIkirtis i installed it by rpm06:12
deFryskrpm ? !06:12
kirtisXIII, deFrysk was right, the command is realplay06:12
deFryskremove it06:13
XIIIhow?06:13
Tribuner u using Nero Ahsan?06:13
ycombahsan: ok from within XP when you open the cdrom do you see a file called blahblah.iso?06:13
Ahsanyes06:13
Ahsani m06:13
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deFryskrpm -e pakckage06:13
XIIIkirtis even realplay doesn't work06:13
Ahsani m using NERo06:13
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XIIIi used alien06:13
Drewfusi think i got the drivers in06:13
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Tribunedo you burn correctly with Nero?06:14
Ahsanwaht I did is that i loaded the ISO image first thru daemon tools06:14
Drewfusis there any way i can use both monitors06:14
zerboxxAnybody here use waproamd?06:14
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Ahsanand copied the exact CD in NERO when it says to burn Data Image.06:14
deFryskapt-get remove --purge realplayer06:14
Ahsanand it burned just fine..06:14
kirtisXIII, well i never use realplayer, maybe try typing real at a command prompt and hit tab twice to see what the possiblities are.06:14
Ahsanit doesnt autoplay06:14
ycombahsan: the problem with that is that you won't get the bootsector06:14
Ahsanooh k06:15
XIIIkirtis ok06:15
Ahsanis there ne solution to it?06:15
ycombahsan: if you are using nero try this06:15
Ahsanehem.?06:15
durtit might be :"realplay"06:15
syxi think its realplay06:15
ycombahsan: tell it to use nero express06:15
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XIIIthere is no real even06:15
hatake_kakashiwhere is the default dns config for ubuntu? there is a certain executable binary or script that is constantly getting the wrong dns servers and I want to set my own dns servers and make sure that it sticks. Does anyone happen to know06:15
XIIIjust real VNC06:15
Ahsanahaan06:15
Ahsani see it..06:15
XIIIthe network tool06:15
Drewfusdoes anyone know how to use dual monitors?06:15
ksmurfdoes a tv count06:16
ycombahsan: What would you like to burn: "Disc image or saved project"06:16
Drewfusno06:16
deFryskXII install realplayer from hoary-extras and remove the alieanated rpm06:16
kirtisXIII, well maybe it didn't install anywhere in your path.. look for it in /opt maybe.06:16
deFryskXIII06:16
hatake_kakashiDrewfus, editing the Xorg config I believe, I however don't have experience in it06:16
deFryskremove it06:16
kirtisXIII, actually yea the longterm solution is what deFrysk says.06:16
Ahsanand i just make a image file of it right then ycomb?06:16
ycombahsan: then in the file selction box change "files of type" to "Image files: (*.nrg, *.iso, *.cue)"06:16
deFryskthe rpm wont work XIII06:16
XIIIdeFrysk can u explain how could i do that?06:16
deFryskapt-get remove --purge realplayer06:17
ycombahsan: select your iso file and go normally from there06:17
Ahsangr806:17
Ahsansaw it..06:17
Ahsanis there anything i need to follow06:17
ycombahsan: ?06:17
Ahsanor shud u just let me go with it..06:17
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Ahsanits burning the image..06:17
XIIIdeFrysk then?06:17
hitestHi Folks!  I'm running 5.04, everything is going well.  I'd like to upgrade to 5.10 without re-installing as I've got everything set-up well on my Ubuntu computers.  Is there a link or help site someone could please direct me to to show mw how to upgrade to the new distro in October without formatting my HD?  Thanks for your replies.06:18
hatake_kakashianyone know how to adjust the dhcp script that is messing with the dns-servers that the dhcp server has provided?06:18
kirtishitest, It's easy.. when breezy is released, do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:18
deFryskXIII, ad this line to your sources.list : deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:18
syxhatake, smb.conf06:18
AhsanThanks a lot for ur help ycomb06:18
ycombahsan: this will put the exact bits in the iso image on your cd, including a small boot image located in a specified place on the CD to allow it to be bootable. You can google "el torito" to learn more. Once you boot with this cd, as long as your cdrom supports bootable cds, you will be in the installer.06:18
deFryskXIII, then sudo apt-get update06:19
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kirtishitest, But that may not be seamless, so you might be better off reinstalling.. which is easier if you have /home on it's own partition btw.06:19
hatake_kakashisyx, isn't that supposed to be something related to samba config? anyway I will check it, thanks for the heads up06:19
deFryskXIII, then sudo apt-get install realplayer06:19
Xinexhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver , can someone tell me what to do here?06:19
jasoncohenhitest, ubuntu is meant to allow distribution upgrades without having to re-install. You can also upgrade through synaptic by changing your sources from "hoary" to "breezy" and then installing all updates06:19
syxhatake: system, administration, networking    <- all in there06:20
XIIIok deFrysk06:20
syxxinex, exactly what it says ?06:20
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hatake_kakashisyx, I did that way before, after a few moments the dns servers has been changed.. I want to know the originator, the one that is causing it. I tried adjusting the dhclient.conf but no go06:21
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ycombahsan: NP, good luck06:21
XinexI'm not sure what do do, syx06:21
deFryskXIII, dont use alien again if possible java is also in that repo btw06:21
syxhatake, is your dhcp server giving your box the wrong address for dns ?06:21
hitestThank you, kirtis and jasoncohen:-)  I appreciate that a lot!06:21
syxxinex, what do you want to achieve ?06:21
hatake_kakashisyx, yes, and that is why I want to set my own06:21
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Tribunepalm os can communicate with ubuntu?06:21
syxok06:21
Tribunemodel zire3106:21
hatake_kakashithere is no way I can adjust the dhcp server, because it is beyond my reach..06:22
ycombcafuego_: just FYI I accepted all the available updates and firefox / trash applet are still working. No idea why. I'll see if this goodness survives a reboot.06:22
XIIIdeFrysk ok06:22
Xinexsyx, pm?06:22
syxhatake, you know i just had that, i manually set mine two minutes ago and they have changed back :)06:22
syxk06:22
syxhatake, looks like we got the same problem :P06:22
hatake_kakashisyx, yeah I had to keep doing it by hand.. I was looking at the cron daemon but it shoots off every minute or so, which is a bit slow06:23
hatake_kakashisyx, heh unfortunately :)06:23
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can-o-wormssomeone gave me a nice link for building a kernel the debian way the other day which i seem to have lost... does anyone else have a nice link?06:23
cafuego_ycomb: i386?06:23
syxhatake, can you manually set your ip address06:23
syxhateke, that should disable it from using dhcp06:23
cafuego_!kp06:24
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, cafuego_06:24
ycombcafuego_: yes - thinkpad x31 pentium m06:24
hatake_kakashisyx, doubt it, had a thought of that but the route may need to be edited06:24
cafuego_ycomb: ah, mind runs amd6406:24
cafuego_mine06:24
cafuego_the mind runs badly06:24
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kevmanubotu keeps seems to be worried about those pesky windmills.06:24
ubotukevman: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:24
syxhatake, your starting to get beyond me now. let me know if you figure it out :P06:25
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ycombcafuego_: ok I see - I'd love to get one to run 64-bit but it seems most distros still have issues, let alone unstable ones :)06:25
kirtiscan-o-worms, well there's always this: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html06:25
shamusHow do I make a folder into a .torrent on ubuntu?06:25
cafuego_ah, you know... :-)06:25
XIIIand what about thiz office how can i get it to install while the source cd doesn't work?06:26
deFryskXIII, what office ?06:26
cafuego_ycomb: I updated in order to get beagle; my imap mailbox was becoming FAR to unwieldy to search even with grep. (8-odd Gb)06:26
hatake_kakashisyx, will do heh :) I had a thought that this affects a couple other non highly configuratable distros as well... at least that it did happen on my rh8 box and I had a nasty trick that time which seemed to work for that distro but not sure about it now06:26
XIIIthiz office from thizlinux.com06:26
deFryskXIII, stop using external packages , or ask there06:27
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XIIIah, ok, sorry06:27
ycombcafuego_: yes it's always the pull of better software + more features vs everything working :)06:27
syxhatake, woudlnt it be easier to disable dhcp then manually set the rest, i reckon it would be easier, plus you get to learn how to do it manually :)06:28
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cafuego_ycomb: well, to a certain point anyway06:28
can-o-wormskirtis: it doesn't have the bit about initrd06:28
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kirtiscan-o-worms, Oh yea, that thing.. /me shrugs.06:29
cafuego_woo, holland has awakeneth eh06:29
kirtiscan-o-worms, Checked the wiki?06:29
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syxnow formy question :P, my box doesnt resolve the computer names on my network, i can only get to them by ip. Other boxes are winblows06:30
can-o-wormskirtis: no.. suppose that should be my next move06:30
hatake_kakashisyx, yeah but that is just the beginning of the complex problem you see? :) it is for me.. I mean, theres alot of regulations that I am under and all sorts of different circumstances.. I would be happier if I can get dhclient or whatever it is to work properly rather than disabling it because the nature of the situation I am in06:30
syxhatake, i see what you mean :006:31
syx*:)06:31
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PuGzhey guys06:32
PuGzi am at uni usin slackware06:32
PuGzon my laptop06:32
PuGzmy uni uses a vpn to get on its network06:32
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PuGzi heard ubuntu has tools for that06:32
PuGzis that correct?06:32
PuGzit would need mppe support in the kernel, and some kind of pptp client06:33
syxtry06:33
syxtyping06:33
PuGzand pptp support in ppp06:33
syxit06:33
syxall06:33
syxon06:33
syxone06:33
hatake_kakashiheh.. uni on ubuntu on my uni friend's laptop.. which I am trying to set it up properly :S06:33
syxline :P06:33
PuGzsyx: ok :P06:33
deFrysksyx, u set a poor example ;p06:33
syxy06:33
syxe06:33
syxa06:33
syxh06:33
syx:P06:33
jasoncohenPuGz, grr, trying to get PPTP support working in linux is such a pain06:33
deFrysk:D06:33
PuGzhatake_kakashi: you setting up vpn?06:33
PuGzi know!06:33
hatake_kakashiPuGz, not quite :) not there yet06:34
PuGzi have tried hard so far06:34
Vizirihmm, when i try to install new packages using synaptic package manager i get a warning about malicious hacking etc. Is there a way to automatically install software that is checked by ubuntu?06:34
jasoncoheni went with OpenVPN and never looked back. It's far more secure and much easier to setup- and definitely more expandable06:34
hatake_kakashiPuGz, I'm trying to solve the #@$@#!! thing with dhcp messing with the resolv.conf file06:34
syxcan you atp-get install openvpn on ubuntu without any hassles ?06:34
PuGzjasoncohen: so you just need mppe in kernel and openvpn software?06:34
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ianwhat is ubuntu calc application?06:34
ianwhat is ubuntu calculator application?06:35
PuGzhatake_kakashi: there is a way to set dhcp to not touch the resolv.conf file... if thats what your trying to do06:35
deFryskian, gcalctool06:35
durttiemu ;)06:35
deFryskI believe06:35
cafuego_YAAAAARRRGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!06:35
deFrysk! gcalctool06:35
PuGzian: or possibly xcalc06:35
ubotudeFrysk: Are you on ritalin?06:35
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cafuego_One of the cats just exploded a blackbird in the office06:35
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ianok thanks!06:36
ianok thanks a lot! i love ubuntu!06:36
jasoncohenPuGz, huh, openvpn uses TLS for handshake and AES, Blowfish etc. for the cipher. MPPE is crap06:36
TheRaginAsianohhh man why must gstreamer blow the big one?06:36
jasoncohenPuGz, only use PPTP If you have to. It's inherently weak and insecure06:36
mark_hi, i have a (hopefully) quick sound card question06:36
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cafuego_mppe is crap, BUT works byd efault on OSX and Windows06:36
dbeeHi, I've created a deb package from the j2sdk, but when I try to install it I get a 'error processing sun-j2sdk... cannot access archive: No such file or directory". Anybody got any ideas ? thanks06:36
PuGzjasoncohen: oh... so its completely separate from mppe and pptp? would it work with my uni vpn server?06:36
jkindyany good books to get on linux06:37
jasoncohenPuGz, i tried getting the pptp client to work on debian + mandrake and i never had luck even after building MPPE support into the kernel06:37
jasoncoheni don't know why06:37
mark_crimsun helped me disable my onboard sound card, but I changed motherboards and now want to use the onboard card.06:37
jasoncohenbut i just setup an openvpn server which has support on XP & linux06:37
TheRaginAsianany way to get a rhythmbox-xine package?06:37
PuGzjkindy: Linux in a nutshell, version 406:37
jkindythanks06:37
jasoncohenPuGz, no- why do you need the uni's vpn?06:37
mark_i forget what config files i changed to do that06:37
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XIIIhow can i get and setup some audio/video codecs?06:37
PuGzjasoncohen: to get on the net at uni06:38
ixizare literal's just representation's of integers, and strings?06:38
deFryskmark_, onboard sound on your new motherboard should be on by default06:38
jasoncohenPuGz, you need VPN to get on the internet? that's stupid06:38
jasoncohenfor their wireless?06:38
PuGzjasoncohen: i am not trying to set up a vpn server... trying to connect to my uni's vpn server06:38
hatake_kakashijasoncohen, most likely for viability06:38
PuGzjasoncohen: yes06:38
hatake_kakashijasoncohen, yeah06:38
jasoncohenhuh06:38
RangitotoI am thinking of buying a computer which has a 700MHz Celeron and 128Mb RAM. Is that satisfactory for Ubuntu?06:38
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jasoncohenhatake_kakashi, it's too bad only recent cards support WPA-PSK06:38
mark_deFrysk, thanks...  (hangs head in shame)06:38
jasoncohenand WPA enterprise06:39
deFryskmark_, open alsamixer and see if you can get it to run06:39
mark_:)06:39
kirtisRangitoto, Not really.  Get more memory.06:39
jasoncohenor 802.11i06:39
deFryskand open the muted channels if it does06:39
ycombXIII: there are a good number in w32codecs - see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:39
XIIIRangitoto yeah, it's enough06:39
TheRaginAsianRangitoto: how much are you paying for that "monster" as well call it06:39
mark_deFrysk, it was muted...  god i feel retarded...  the video setup was tricky, so i expected sound to be ugly too...  but it works fine...  i am an idiot... :)06:39
hatake_kakashijasoncohen, heh well, uni will do something else to compensate it I believe06:39
RangitotoKurtis: What is the minimum memory you recommend?06:39
kirtisRangitoto, To elaborate, nearly any processor is fine, but you really want 256+ to be comfortable.06:39
jasoncohenRangitoto, how much are you planning on paying? i spent $400 on a amd 64 3000+, 512 MB PC3200 DDR, 160 GB 7200 RPM seagate, DVD-RW dual-layer etc.06:39
kirtisRangitoto, 512 is the sweet spot though.06:40
PuGzok... so i need to use mppe and pptp to connect to my uni's vpn most likely?06:40
jasoncohenyou can get a good machine for very little06:40
jasoncohenPuGz, most likely06:40
dbeeActually my mistake ... I have it now06:40
PuGzjasoncohen: ok06:40
PuGzjasoncohen: is there  pptp stuff in ubuntu?06:40
jasoncohenRangitoto, 512 MB of DDR is under $5006:40
TheRaginAsianjasoncohen: yeah no shit, newegg it up06:41
cafuego_Rangitoto: I woudln't bother running Gnome or KDE with less than 256Mb.06:41
jasoncohenPuGz, pptp-linux is the client06:41
cafuego_Rangitoto: If you have less, consider a window manager like opebox or fluxbox (or maybe even xfce)06:41
RangitotoI am actually buying the computer to get the Windows 98 licence. I will then put Ubuntu on the computer for my kids, one of whom is keen on Linux.06:41
TheRaginAsianyeah XFCE would work good06:41
deFryskmade someone feel like an idiot ... thats where this helpchannel is all about hehe :p06:42
durtbut ubuntu itself is quite a bit slower than other distros06:42
TheRaginAsianbut its like, the point to running XFCE is fast GTK but your still running a lot of GTK so... eh...06:42
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cafuego_Rangitoto: *nod* what sort of specs does it have?06:42
TheRaginAsiandurt: ill trade the speed I got in arch ANY day for not having to babysit my distro half as much06:42
jasoncohenTheRaginAsian, i'm just telling him that there's no reason to buy such a slow system with such little RAM at today's computer prices06:42
jasoncohenwhere is kernel-patch-mppe?06:42
jkindyhow do i join a channel thats not listed?06:43
XIIIdeFrysk i finished setting up realplayer and as always it didn't work06:43
cafuego_jasoncohen: It's already in the ubuntu kernel sources06:43
TheRaginAsianwhats mppe?06:43
deFryskXIII, used the command realplay ?06:43
TheRaginAsianim just using 68606:43
jasoncohencafuego, not for hoary06:43
jasoncohencafuego, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mppe&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all06:43
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cafuego_jasoncohen: hah06:43
Rangitotocafuego: 700MHz Celeron, 128MHz RAM, 20Gb HDD.06:43
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ksmurfcafuego thanks06:44
XIIIdeFrysk yeah06:44
TheRaginAsianRangitoto: HOW MUCH BUDDY!06:44
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XIIIand it freezed06:44
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XIIIno errors even06:44
cafuego_Rangitoto: yeah, xfce or a *box WM06:44
ksmurfhey what's up with the java package?06:44
cafuego_Rangitoto: How much do they want for it?06:44
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TheRaginAsianspill the price buddy then well let ya kno06:44
KG2056anyone know a light webcam viewing app that can record mpegs06:44
syxjkindy: type /join #channelname06:44
jasoncoheni don't see kernel-patch-mppe in my repos06:44
Gazerhi all ... somebody has Synaptics Touchpad on an Ibook G4 working with Breezy/XOrG ?06:44
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jasoncoheni have universe enabled06:44
cafuego_jasoncohen: ubuntu-kernel-patches ?06:44
TheRaginAsianhey can someone throw me a link as to where to recommend packages?06:45
ilba7rwhat is the command line that run gnome sound mixer06:45
Rangitoto$160 New Zealand which would be very roughly US$80.06:45
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cafuego_Rangitoto: *nod* seems about right06:45
Drewfusyay i got my dual monitors working06:45
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TheRaginAsianyeah thats fair06:45
Drewfusat first i had them mixed up so when i moused over to the left it ended up on the right06:45
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jasoncohencafuego, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe doesn't even come up06:46
jasoncohenmaybe it was removed06:46
cafuego_!find mppe06:46
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deFryskXII cd /usr/lib/realplay-10.0.4/plugins/06:47
jasoncohen/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.ko06:47
K-Richi'm having a brain fart, what is the command i use to run for instance a compile, while i'm not logged in, ?06:47
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jasoncohenok, so you can just modprobe ppp_mppe06:47
jasoncohenyou don't need that package06:47
RangitotoIf Ubuntu is installed on a computer which already has Windows installed will the two automatically be dual bootable?06:47
kirtisK-Rich, screen?06:47
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cafuego_jasoncohen: according to ubotu ppp_mppe is in the precompiled 2.6.10-5 kernels06:47
XIIIRangitoto yeah06:47
jasoncohenPuGz left?06:47
syxRangitoto: yeah06:47
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XIIIby Grub boot loader06:47
TheRaginAsianGRUB will do it up06:48
K-Richkirtis: nope... its like '<the forgotten command> <program to run>'06:48
jasoncohencafuego, so pptp works "out of the box" with pptp-linux?06:48
hatake_kakashisyx, you still there? I have found a solution for that same problem we had.. the solution came from pfredl from the linux chan.. he suggested that we should use "chattr +i".. so check in man pages! :D the file is not editable.. unless if it was done by superuser :D06:48
Dingythe ubuntu installer didn't detect windows XP so it doesn't appear in grub, does anyone know how to manually add it?06:48
cafuego_jasoncohen: yeah06:48
jasoncohendamn...it sure wasn't that easy in mandrake or debian06:48
TheRaginAsianim searching but I cant find anywhere to do it, does anoyone know where i go to recommend a package?06:48
XIIIdeFrysk then?06:48
jasoncohencafuego, have you gotten it to work?06:48
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ilba7rDingy it detected windows xp but did not mount it you have to mount it your self06:48
cafuego_jasoncohen: yes, but i run it on Debian sarge, not on Ubuntu.06:48
deFryskXIII, sudo rm swfformat.so06:48
kirtisK-Rich, at?  I really don't have a great idea of what you're trying to accomplish.06:49
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deFryskXIII, sudo rm swfrender.so06:49
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syxhakate, k how the hell you do that :P06:49
deFryskand try realplay again06:49
Dingyilba7r, fair enough, how do I do that?06:49
cafuego_jasoncohen: So that's not highly useful for your cause ;-)06:49
node357hi people. ubuntu security updates available yet?06:49
jasoncohencafuego, can you help PuGz set it up? I gave up on debian when i found openvpn06:49
TheRaginAsianwell how about this: does render-accel have to be enable in xorg.conf in order to take advantage of nvidia driver?06:49
jasoncohenwhich i now run on my debian server and i have the client on my ubuntu desktop06:49
syxhakate, i see seems a bit of a dirty way to do it tho :(06:49
XIIIdeFrysk then?06:50
deFryskthats it06:50
ilba7rDimgy I guess you want it to be done automatically each time you boot in so you should edit fstab06:50
deFrysktry realplay again06:50
hatake_kakashisyx, you do it at the console.. run a root console and set your resolv.conf properly, once set add 'chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf' to it and that will stick it permanently :D06:50
K-Richkirtis: i want to ssh into another system, tell it to compile, and log off the system, with it still compiling06:50
XIIIok06:50
cafuego_jasoncohen: the docs that come with pptp are really straightforward; set up a pptp server; configure it; poke hole in firewall; set up client (there are samples); run.06:50
kirtisK-Rich, nohup06:50
|Imp|K-Rich, use screen ?06:50
syxhakate, cool thanks06:50
kirtisK-Rich, Actually my original suggestion of screen is best06:50
jasoncohencafuego, i never tried to setup a sserver06:50
jasoncohen*server06:50
node357guess not. figured i'd try06:50
XIIIthnx, finally it works06:50
XIII:))06:50
deFryskyw06:50
jasoncohencafuego, i merely tried to connect to my XP pptp server from linux06:50
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jasoncohencafuego, when i moved the XP box to debian for mythtv it became a moot point06:51
node357why do you people ignore simple questions06:51
kirtisK-Rich, screen, then do whatever you want and do Ctrl-A-D (i think) to detach from the screen session then logout.06:51
ksmurfdoes anyone else have issue with having no fonts in firefox?06:51
K-Richkirtis: nohup was it!!!! .... ummmm how do i use screen in this way... i've never used screen at all so i've no idea what to do with it06:51
jasoncohennode357, what's the question?06:51
kirtisK-Rich, then you can go back to it later and do screen -a to attach to it06:51
ksmurfI can't even use it06:51
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jasoncohenksmurf, what do you mean no fonts? you can't see anything?06:52
ksmurfpics i can see06:52
hatake_kakashisyx, I was checking in kernlogs for error but it seems to be none :D but oh well it sure is nice!06:52
node357jasoncohen, people couldn't get gpg signatures verified for security updates. i'm wondering if that's still a problem06:52
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node357i had to ditch ubuntu and wait it out06:52
ksmurfunderline links without the words i can see... but no text06:52
jasoncohennode357, when was this?06:52
node357a few days back.. 2, 306:52
syxhakate, thats reall handy for all sorts of things :D06:52
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jasoncohennode357, i never had that problem and i've been using ubuntu for several months06:53
jasoncohennode357, what server were you using?06:53
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kirtisnode357, apt-get update just worked fine for me so i'm guessing they worked it out.  This is on the canadian mirror though.06:53
node357not sure which server... whatever the default was06:53
node357Canada yeah06:53
jasoncohennode357, packages don't need to be verified. for example hoary-extras isn't and you can still install the packages06:53
node357ok, that sounds good06:53
node357ah06:53
node357<- not computer savvy06:53
node357so i could try again now06:53
node357kool :)06:53
ksmurfanyone...... I have no issues with anything but firefox that I know of06:53
jasoncohennode357, are you sure it was security updates?06:54
jasoncohenand not extras or backports?06:54
node357yes it was jasoncohen, updates with the default apt sources.list06:54
jasoncohenksmurf, try purging and re-installing06:54
Cardoejasoncohen: are you breaking your mythtv box06:54
XIIIok, thnx all, good bye06:54
deFryskksmurf, wat did you install before it happened ?06:54
jasoncohenksmurf, "sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox"06:54
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jasoncohenksmurf, "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"06:54
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jasoncohenCardoe, no- it's on debian sarge06:54
TheRaginAsianhey anyone?06:54
TheRaginAsianhelp me out right quick06:55
node357hi someone06:55
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hatake_kakashisyx, hell yeah :D06:55
Cardoejasoncohen: just giving you a hard time. later.06:55
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jasoncohennode357, you can alwyas just say yes even if it isn't verified but that's odd06:55
TheRaginAsianim sure it does, but does RenderAccel need to be set to true in xorg.conf for me to take advantage of nvidia driver?06:55
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hatake_kakashisyx, in the meantime, I will check in lsof to see if I can pick out which binary/script is causing the mess06:55
node357i was tempted, but it worried me is all06:55
jasoncohennode357, try the default servers06:55
node357it was the default06:55
node357lol06:55
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node357that's what worried me06:55
jasoncohennode357, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/06:55
Fabrihello...i from argentina and i need help to set my wireless conection06:55
jasoncohenand http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/06:56
drewfusi hate to sound like an idiot, its obvious how new i am, how do i install something like a game06:56
jasoncohennode357, i remember the .us servers were screwed up. don't use the mirrors...just use the main servers06:56
deFryskTheRaginAsian, all you need to do is sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable06:56
node357k jasoncohen, thanks much06:56
ksmurfmozilla-firefox: Depends: firefox but it is not installable06:56
deFryskTheRaginAsian, then restart x06:57
drewfushow do i install an rpm?06:57
deFryskdrewfus, you dont06:57
drewfuscrap06:57
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jasoncohenksmurf, oh- you're using backports06:57
Fabrihello ...anybody can help me?06:57
drewfusubuntu cant use rpms?06:57
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node357how about the 'alien' command for rpms.. evn tho it will probably break the apt system06:57
ollimahamoro06:57
eepimoro06:57
ollimahamit kuuluu06:57
jasoncohenksmurf, comment out hoary-backports in /etc/apt/sources.list or in synaptic06:57
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drewfuswhat about tar or gz?06:58
TheRaginAsiandeFrysk: I had to manually edit my xorg.conf in order to enable all the buttons on my Logitech MX500 mouse though06:58
jasoncohenksmurf, you don't need backports for firefox and you're better off with the ubuntu version for security updates06:58
deFryskdrewfus, avoid alien , many packages do not work even with the use of alien06:58
cafuego_drewfus: You can convert the rpm to deb using 'alien'.06:58
node357tar xzf file.tar.gz, or tar xf file.tar ?06:58
ollimahasaatana homo06:58
node357lol06:58
benplautGRRR, devs, GRRR for taking away Clearlooks-quicksilver!!!06:58
ollimahaeero on homo06:58
TheRaginAsiandoes "nvidia-glx-config enable" add Option RenderAccel to True?06:58
drewfusso dont use rpms period?06:58
ollimahasime rulaa06:58
deFryskTheRaginAsian, I rthought you talked about your videocard06:58
node357what's this about homo? as in milk?06:58
ksmurfstill no good06:58
deFryskdrewfus, bottom line...yes06:58
drewfuswhat about tar.gz06:59
node357.debs rule06:59
TheRaginAsiandeFrysk: hm?06:59
cafuego_ollimaha: Would you mind going and doing that somewhere else?06:59
jasoncohendrewfus, you don't use rpms. ubuntu uses debs and they are installed through synaptic or apt-get (or aptitude). synaptic is a nice graphical installer. it's easy to use and there are thousands of choices of packages. you won't be dissapointed.06:59
ksmurfit reinstall and nothing..... I'll restart and se if that helps06:59
node357tar.gz is like .zip06:59
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drewfushow do i install those06:59
deFryskdrewfus, why not use the ubuntupackages ?06:59
jasoncohendrewfus, tar.gz is just a compressed file like a zip06:59
Fabrihelppppppppppppppppp06:59
jasoncohentar.gz's are probably package source if you're seeing them on a software site06:59
TheRaginAsiantar.gz is like .zip which is like .rar which is like .cab which is like .you-get-the-point06:59
cafuego_drewfus: If they're slack packages, you can again use alien on them.06:59
drewfuswhy am i limited to ubuntu?06:59
DjKritical-cafuego: was it you I was talking to last night trying to install ubuntu?07:00
cafuego_drewfus: Because, uh, you installed Ubuntu?07:00
drewfusso what can i do with tar.gz?07:00
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jasoncohennode357, new users shouldn't be using alien07:00
deFryskdrewfus, cos u are using ubuntu perhaps ?07:00
ollimahatuuks eero tn meil pelaa halo kakkost07:00
ollimahasiel on yks paha kentt07:00
jasoncohennode357, in 99.99% of the cases ubuntu has the package the user is looking or07:00
jasoncohen*for07:00
drewfusbut id like to be able to use more linux files07:00
cafuego_ollimaha: We speak english here, thankyou.07:00
node357:/07:00
cafuego_None of that silly finnish.07:00
jasoncohenthey should be using ubuntu packages. if they don't know how they should probably be building from source.07:00
Fabrihelo....hello.....heloooo07:00
deFryskdrewfus, what program are you missing then so desperatly ?07:00
drewfusgames07:01
jasoncohenlol, if they can't install from an ubuntu package they should use source- not an rpm07:01
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deFryskdrewfus, what games ?07:01
jasoncohenbut the first choice should be an ubuntu package07:01
cafuego_DjKritical-: Depending on when "last night" was...07:01
TheRaginAsiandeFrysk: do you know if RenderAccel has to be added?07:01
drewfusthe rpm i found is kind of a 3d tron07:01
jasoncohenignore " if they don't know how they should probably be building from source."07:01
yo2hi07:01
drewfus3d games07:01
cafuego_TheRaginAsian: RenderAccel apaprently has a memory leak07:01
jasoncohendrewfus, did you search synaptic?07:01
jasoncohensearch in synaptic07:01
benplautFabri: just ask your question07:01
TheRaginAsiancafuego: eww that sounds nasty07:02
jasoncohendrewfus, ubuntu has armagetron07:02
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drewfusso the packs in synaptic are all i can use?07:02
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drewfuspretty much07:02
TheRaginAsiancafuego: so by memory leak you mean "dont enable renderaccel" lol07:02
deFryskTheRaginAsian, honestly I do not thinks so but you can turn it on safely afaIk07:02
jasoncohendrewfus, armagetron, gltron, ktron etc.07:02
drewfuswhere?07:02
ilba7ranyone having troubles with realplay and firestarter?07:02
yo2hi ,,, i just install ubuntu .. but it never ask for a root password /// witch will be ?07:02
cafuego_TheRaginAsian: Nothing to endanger a 3 week uptime on a box with a lot of ram07:02
ollimahafloodit ovat persiist07:02
jasoncohendrewfus, system > administration > synaptic package manager07:02
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cafuego_ollimaha: Hallo, ben je doof ofzo?07:02
drewfusyeah but where in there i dont see it under games07:02
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ksmurfDamn thing still didn't work07:02
ilba7rseems firestarter blooking everyconnection from or too realplay07:02
jasoncohendrewfus, search for "tron"07:02
deFryskcafuego, hartsikke07:03
TheRaginAsiansay im not too worried about uptime, try it anyways? lol07:03
FabriI HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE WIRELESS CONECTION07:03
jasoncohenFabri, no need for caps07:03
drewfuscool thanks a bunch07:03
deFryskFabri, and your CAPS not to forget07:03
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drewfusso i can only use the programs listed in synaptic?07:03
ksmurfI saw something in the forums about others having issues07:03
deFryskdrewfus, as long as u need to ask questions here..... yes07:03
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jasoncohendrewfus, if you don't see the programs i mentioned you need to add the universe source07:04
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ksmurfI'll just download it and see if it's the package07:04
jasoncohen!ubotu tell drewfus about repositories07:04
drewfusi found them07:04
drewfus?07:04
Fabriwhy nobody help me?07:04
ilba7r!firestarter07:04
ubotuilba7r: I give up, what is it?07:04
ilba7r!info firestarter07:05
jasoncohendrewfus, ubuntu has over 16,000 packages if you enable all components07:05
deFryskdrewfus, make sure to have all the proper repositories set up and you have acces to a vast amount of thrilling packages ready to blow your mind </avocacy>07:05
ubotufirestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2348 kB07:05
cafuego_drewfus: was there anything you wanted that's not listed?07:05
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drewfuswell i applied the package but where did it go?07:05
adriyelhola07:05
jasoncohendrewfus, 99% of software is in ubuntu and most likely everything you'll want or need07:05
adriyelg'night everyone07:05
Dragonhola07:05
ksmurfnight07:05
jasoncohenif you need something else you can compile it07:05
Fabriadriyel......hola!!!!07:05
drewfusi think that should be good, i dont feel limited when there are that many to choose from07:05
navilonhow can i save my color scheme and fonts for gVim?07:05
drewfusbut now that its installed where is it?07:06
jasoncohendrewfus, you hit apply and then installed it07:06
ilba7rFabri we all have troubles with wireless what is your problem07:06
drewfusyes07:06
yo2hi ,,, i just install ubuntu .. but it never ask for a root password /// witch will be ?07:06
jasoncohenit should now have a green box07:06
deFrysk! sudo07:06
ubotufrom memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:06
deFrysk! root07:06
ubotuI heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:06
jasoncohendrewfus, look in applications > games07:06
jasoncohendrewfus, what did you install?07:06
Fabriilba7r: Yes? why.....07:06
drewfusi dont see it07:06
Fabri?07:06
drewfusthe tron thing07:07
yo2thanks07:07
jasoncohenwhich one?07:07
jasoncohenthere are several07:07
drewfusarmagetron07:07
jasoncohensome of the universe apps don't have a menu entry07:07
navilonanybody wanna play a game of armagetron?07:07
drewfusand i got the common files and server07:07
cafuego_!dstats07:07
jasoncohenapplications > run application and type "armagetron"07:07
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.07:07
deFryskdrewfus, install smeg if you wist to add it in the menu manually07:07
ilba7rFabri just state your question perhaps we can help. And basically most wireless drivers are not native07:07
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drewfussmeg?07:07
ilba7r!wireless07:07
ubotuwell, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards07:07
durt!smeg07:08
ubotusomebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.07:08
jasoncohen!tell drewfus about smeg07:08
deFryskdrewfus, ugly word nice package ;p07:08
jasoncohendrewfus, SMEG is very nice07:08
durti love smeg07:08
cafuego_they're VERY nice stoves, thankyou :-P07:08
naliothdeFrysk: only ugly in america, i'd think07:08
jasoncohenit'll be included in breezy with gnome's menu editor07:08
deFryskdurt, in holland we dont ;p07:08
jasoncohenfor now it's in backports07:08
Fabrii have a usb wireless.and i cant conect to my router...07:08
drewfuswhat if you put an a on the end of that, i wonder who would know what that is =)07:09
drewfusma my bad07:09
ksmurfwhere would I get libxpcom07:09
drewfusarmagetron works07:09
ilba7rfabri look at the link ubotu gave for wireless07:09
cafuego_deFrysk:  http://www.omegasmeg.com.au/07:09
deFryskcafuego, dont dare to open it at this early hour07:09
cafuego_deFrysk: kitchen appliances07:10
cafuego_(no shitwhisking involved)07:10
deFrysk:D07:10
TheRaginAsianhmm... nevermind you guys were right I dont need to add the renderaccel option07:10
TheRaginAsianweird07:10
TheRaginAsianI always had to in Arch07:10
naliothcafuego_: wtf?!07:10
jasoncohendrewfus, just add a menu entry with smeg or a desktop icon07:10
deFryskcafuego, would never sell in holland hehe07:10
cafuego_nalioth: Hmm?07:10
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naliothcafuego_: "shitwhisking"?07:11
drewfussmegs website isnt working for me07:11
jasoncohendrewfus, unfortunately gnome 2.10 has no menu editor. breezy will have gnome's menu editor AND smeg07:11
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deFryskdrewfus, install flash07:11
cafuego_deFrysk: Just to red dwarf fans or did something happen in the past 5 years that made it a bad word?07:11
drewfuswhen is breezy?07:11
jasoncohendrewfus, october07:11
deFryskdrewfus, oct07:11
drewfuscool07:11
jasoncohenoct 14th is the scheduled release date07:11
Dragoni can't wait07:11
ollimahap kii07:11
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cafuego_nalioth; painful cherman sex mit kitchen implements, ja?!07:11
drewfusits not flash it says connection refused07:11
Dragonstill 2 more months07:11
naliothcafuego_: if you say so07:12
deFryskcafuego, put ma behind the word and do a search07:12
cafuego_deFrysk: <hehe>07:12
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jasoncohencafuego, thanks for helping me before with my clock going out of sync in sarge. I think the problem was APIC as you suggested07:12
ollimaha /join 3helvettinhelvettiperkele07:12
deFryskdrewfus, ask your isp07:13
drewfusit looks like i got smeg from synaptic07:13
TheRaginAsianhey how do I get glxgears to report framerate?07:13
cafuego_deFrysk: /j #ubuntu-nl07:13
drewfusyeah it seems like an isp problem doesnt it07:13
deFryskTheRaginAsian, enter it in your console07:13
deFryskcafuego, righto ;p07:13
TheRaginAsianyeah I did it wont report my fps though07:14
deFryskTheRaginAsian, in you console it shows the rates now07:15
Fabri!Wireless07:15
ubotu[wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards07:15
TheRaginAsianman page says that it outputs to stdout or something?07:15
ksmurfk it's definatly the firefox package and something I installed or upgraded tonight07:15
TheRaginAsianit wont show my my fps07:15
ksmurfI could install under my home account07:16
TheRaginAsianif I close it out it will just say "X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)."07:16
bob2TheRaginAsian: leave it running for a while07:16
benplautf**k07:16
TheRaginAsianlol how long, it looks like its going real slow07:16
benplautemacs is broken in breezy07:16
TheRaginAsiansomething must be wrong if its taking this long07:16
deFryskit shows it every 5 secs if I am corrrect07:16
drewfusyay armagetron07:17
cafuego_deFrysk: the one i have in breezy doesn't anymore07:17
deFrysknvidia works (again) in breezy :D07:17
deFryskcafuego, true , no glxgears in breezy07:17
cafuego_deFrysk: yes, i have glxgears, but it doesn't show the framerate07:18
TheRaginAsiancafuego_: same here07:18
TheRaginAsianrunning... but no framerate07:18
cafuego_mesa-utils: /usr/bin/glxgears07:18
TheRaginAsianglxinfo says I have direct rendering enabled too07:18
deFryskcafuego, in breezy I have no glxgears at all07:18
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Dragoni have a quick question, which is better Fresh intallation of Breezy or upgrade from Hoary?07:19
TheRaginAsiandeFrysk: I had to completely remove nvidia-glx and reinstall restriced-modules07:19
bob2Dragon: are yo usure you want to use breezay at all now?07:19
Dragonis there any cons about upgrading instead of freash installation ?07:19
deFryskTheRaginAsian, nvidia-glx-config enable sets xorg up for nvidiadriver usage correctly for direct rendering is my experience07:19
Dragonbob2: nope07:19
Dragonbob2: not yet, i can wait till it is released07:20
cafuego_Dragon: Stick with Hoary, upgrade when Breezy is released.07:20
bob2Dragon: then either way, as long as you read the upgrade notes07:20
naliothcafuego_: it does if you run it from the terminal w/o the trailing &07:20
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Dragoncafuego_ : so.. i don't have to do a fresh installation? 'cause on WIndows, I always have to do a fresh installation otherwise I encounter problems after07:20
naliothDragon: this is not windows07:21
Dragonbob2: oh ic..07:21
cafuego_nalioth: Not as of 3 seconds ago07:21
naliothDragon: forget all that you know about windows07:21
naliothcafuego_: strange07:21
Dragonnalioth: haha ok07:21
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bob2Dragon: that is, you'll end up with the same system either way, as long as you read the upgrade notes07:21
drewfusdont get mad cause this is off topic but are there any good 3d games?07:21
nate_Anyone know a good easy to use program that you use to make games07:21
Dragonbob2: oh ok :)07:21
nate_?07:21
deFryskDragon, deprogram yourself from M$07:22
cafuego_drewfus: Yep. tuxracer, bzflag, scorched3d07:22
drewfusthanks07:22
Dragonhaha lol07:22
deFrysknjam in breezy is VERY good07:22
Dragonit's kinda hard to forget about Windows after using it for half of my life time;07:22
cafuego_njam?07:22
deFryskexellent game07:22
Dragonthanks everyone07:23
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deFryskcafuego, since you are on breezy try it07:23
saggytitshey guys im having a problem im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop but it goes throught the begining of loading the install and just goes black07:23
saggytitsany ideas07:23
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cafuego_saggytits: try a bra07:23
TheRaginAsianLOL07:23
deFryskcafuego, LOL07:24
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cafuego_oh, about the laptop...07:24
TheRaginAsiansaggytits: what version07:24
cafuego_saggytits: boot with fbdev disabled07:24
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TheRaginAsianbrb restarting X... k actualyl know what I need to go to be lol07:24
TheRaginAsiannight all07:24
saggytitswell ubuntu-5.04-install-i38607:24
TheRaginAsianah that should work then... ill pass the torch07:24
TheRaginAsiannigth all07:24
cafuego_deFrysk: pacman!07:25
saggytitsany ideas?07:25
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deFryskcafuego, yes :)07:26
StrikeForce_workcafuego_ saggytits: boot with fbdev disabled07:26
saggytitshow do i disable fbdev07:26
cafuego_maybe pass video=vesafb:off07:26
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cafuego_google will tell you the exact param; also check the F1-F6 help screens07:27
StrikeForce_workwhen you load it up and it comes up with the opening page theres a help section that'll explain how to do it saggytits07:27
deFryskdog has to let me out , later folks07:27
cafuego_deFrysk: fetch teh stick!07:27
saggytitsi cant load it up07:27
deFrysknjam!07:27
saggytitsthats the problem07:27
saggytitsi just hit enter07:28
saggytitsit does its thing for like 2 seconds07:28
saggytitsand goes black07:28
jorgpI am trying to recover a file from a floppy, but floppy has 2 i/o errors, any suggestions on file recovery?07:28
cafuego_saggytits: Hit F1- F6 INSTEAD OF enter07:28
saggytitsok07:28
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cafuego_saggytits: it will explain about boot parameters, see if there is one pertaining to vifeo, specifically the framebuffer.07:29
saggytitsok07:29
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wolfiehey i was wondering if someone could help me with something07:31
naliothcafuego_: what is an easy way to get a 64bit gcc?07:32
cafuego_Wolfie: just ask07:32
cafuego_nalioth: get an amd64 and install 'gcc'07:32
cafuego_nalioth: you want  a64bit gcc for ppc?07:32
bob2getting a ppc64 toolchain will be fun07:32
naliothcafuego_: sorry, i have a 64bit powerpc box07:32
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bob2since you don't have a ppc64 libc07:32
zerboxxIs it possible to constantly search for wireless networks (instead of continuously entering iwlist...)???07:33
cafuego_nalioth: Yes, I know ;-)07:33
cafuego_nalioth: a dual 3 stage gcc bootstrap and a 3stage libc6 bootstrap would be the easiest way07:33
wolfieI have been trying to get it setup o my computer to be able to chat on yaho and on hotmail and it says that I need java plugins but downladed all the lugins and it says I still need them07:33
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cafuego_nalioth:... and that easiest way is HARD.07:33
naliothbob2: i found this, but am lacking the experience to make full use of it   http://kegel.com/crosstool/07:33
naliothcafuego_: yes, i know the treble-chained build sequence07:34
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cafuego_nalioth: I don't have access to the G5 iMac, apart from remote ssh into OSX, so I can't even experiment.07:35
ksmurfwhay are the transcode and java pacages gone?07:35
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bob2nalioth: toolchain-source probably has enough stuff to do it07:35
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naliothbob2: thx07:37
squareyesafternoon all, is it possible to generate a log file showing my dialup transfer rates per/5 seconds, for say 30 seconds?, something I can print out for my ISP07:38
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wolfieused kynaptic and synaptic package managers and downloaded all the plugins for it and downloaded jre-1-5-0-01-linux-i5...07:38
cafuego_nalioth: that matrix has recorded kernel fail for evey ppc97007:38
benplautthere was a really cool feature in OO.org 1.1.x where you could zoom in/out your toolbars. anyone know where it is (is it) in OO.org 1.9.122?07:38
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benplautn/m07:39
benplautfound it07:39
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ViziriI'm using the automate script for new users and get this - ERROR # 100 : There was an error in beep-media-player gstreamer0.8-mad w32codecs streamtuner xine-ui totem-xine installation.07:41
deFryskautomate script ?07:42
naliothguess i'll wait on breezy07:42
benplautcheck the forums07:42
naliothtoolchain-source has no rules for ppc6407:42
benplautnalioth: wait for breezy?! breezy is now! :P07:43
Vizirihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&page=1&pp=10&highlight=beep-media-player  - this is the script07:43
naliothbenplaut: not on my imac, it isnt07:43
benplautahhh07:43
cafuego_nalioth: You aware of any plans for a ppc64 Ubuntu flavour?07:44
deFryskViziri, maybe report the probs in that thread ?07:44
naliothcafuego_: yes i am07:44
cafuego_ooher :-)07:44
naliothbreezy will offer ppc/ppc64 support07:44
cafuego_cool, I'm just about to boot colonly3 on this mac07:45
naliothcafuego_: good luck07:45
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cafuego_It's a B&W G3, at least the hardware will be COMPLETELY supported07:45
bob2nalioth: don't think breezy will make it much easier07:45
naliothcafuego_: yes, there is that.07:46
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naliothbob2: won't breezy come with 64bit ppc binaries and such?07:46
cafuego_oh shit, they're going to mess with freenode07:46
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Dragonwhat does that mean ?07:46
IrcUser1hello07:46
Dragonis this channel being closed for a while ?07:46
cafuego_Dragon: No, they'll be killing and restarting servers one by one07:47
IrcUser1anyone here used the deadmoo method to install os x8607:47
IrcUser1t?07:47
Dragonoh ..ic..07:47
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cafuego_Dragon: I believe you can make lilo stop for around $150007:47
deFryska week07:47
cafuego_that long?07:47
cafuego_I was thinking perhaps a day ;-)07:47
deFrysk:D07:47
Dragonlol07:48
robert1123hello all!! This is my first time intall a linux box and I had a question if u dont mind answering.07:48
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deFryskrobert1123, dont ask to aks yust aks07:49
ravsCan anyone point me in the right direction as to what I should download to make a hoary boot cd for an iBook G3 500?07:49
nate_Name all the C++ packs I can get for Ubuntu through SYpatic manager. :D07:49
nate_Oh , please07:49
robert1123I am install mysql and I ran the script sudo apt-get install php4-mysql and i am getting an error message saying E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql07:50
robert1123how do i correct this07:50
robert1123?07:50
IrcUser1question: I'm using Ubuntu Live and have mounted a USB hd.. my question is, what's the location fo that mounted drive?07:50
IrcUser1i.e /dev/desktop/drive/ ?07:50
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IrcUser1I'm not familiar with the commands of linux07:51
bob2nalioth: don't think so, multi-arch (letting dpkg install packages from multiple architectures on the one machine) wont happen until breezy+1, afaik07:51
IrcUser1was suggested i use lspci, but that gave me specs07:51
deFryskrobert1123, open synaptic (sudo synaptic) and  and do a search for mysql and see what packages are available07:51
robert1123thanks07:51
deFryskrobert1123, as a new user it might be handy to use synaptic for package handling07:51
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Dragonwelcome back07:53
deFrysk:/07:53
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robert1123defrys thanks. forgive my ignorance I am new to linux this is a learning project for me07:53
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naliothbob2: so when i install breezy ppc64, it's not really gonna be ppc64? (sorry i'm clueless)07:53
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bob2there's a breezy ppc64 port?07:53
robert1123defrysk i am getting sudo: synaptic: command not found07:54
cafuego_robert1123: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager07:54
robert1123can u give that to me in command line? no gui.07:55
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HrdwrBoBbob2: not afaik07:55
deFryskrobert1123, in case you do not have synaptic sudo apt-get install synaptic07:55
cafuego_robert1123: You can't run synaptic without gui,.07:55
nate_anybody know of good C++ tools for Ubuntu07:55
bob2didn't think so07:55
cafuego_robert1123: In that case, sudo apt-get install aptitude; sudo aptitude'07:55
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bob2nalioth: if there was one, it would be, but afaik that doesn't exist07:55
bob2and probably won't07:55
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cafuego_nate_: 'rm'07:55
bob2nate_: to do what?  you mean a compiler?07:56
tritiumhi bob207:56
nate_Just like learning, writting small programs.07:56
bob2aloha, tritium07:56
zerboxxIs there a program which will constantly look at iwlist scan and display "visible" APs???07:56
ksmurfI'm upgrading to breezy but in the gnome mouse menu the is no open terminal..... can I put one in?07:56
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bob2nate_: install build-essential, that will give you a compiler and such07:56
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bob2zerboxx: kismet, netapplet07:56
zerboxxbob2: Use either?07:57
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bob2zerboxx: they do very different things07:57
nate_I previously installed a C++ program, and a folder under applications came up named Programming07:57
bob2but you didn't really explain how you want to use it07:57
bob2if you want an applet, netapplet07:57
nate_I'm wanting a GUI, if thats possible,07:57
naliothbob2: i'm crushed. i hadda earlier breezy disk with choices at the installer07:57
bob2nate_: you mean an IDE?07:57
nate_yeah.07:58
naliothnate_: kdevelop07:58
bob2nalioth: sure, there are 64-bit kernels, and maybe libc, but that does not a port make07:58
zerboxxbob2: I'm really not sure, is an applet something in the gnome panel?07:58
robert1123ok that answeres that how do i search to see what mysql packages i have.07:58
robert1123from command line07:58
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bob2zerboxx: yes07:58
naliothbob2: but with a 64bit kernel and libc, isnt gettin a 64-bit gcc easier?07:58
zerboxxbob2: Since I'm not using gnome I guess kismet is my choice then :)07:58
bob2robert1123: have installed? "dpkg -l | grep '^ii.*mysql'"07:58
ksmurfis the a way to put "open Terminal" back in the gnome menu?07:58
bob2nalioth: yes, but I don't know if there is a 64-bit libc07:59
nate_after running apt-get install kdevelop, will I need to run anything else?07:59
jasoncohenthis is strange. for some reason the gnome resolution tool won't allow me to select a higher refresh rate than 60 Hz. my LCD supports 1280x1024@ 7507:59
bob2zerboxx: you could just explain what you want to do with it...07:59
bob2nate_: if you're using GNOME anjuta is probably a better choice07:59
jasoncoheni entered the horizontal and vertical refresh as 30-80 and 60-8507:59
nate_apt-get install anjuta?07:59
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jasoncohenbut it gives 60 as the only option for every resolution08:00
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nate_WTF?08:00
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cafuego_nate: Freenode is getting a software update08:00
Dragonserver restarted08:00
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zerboxxbob2: Well I'd like an easy way to see visible networks to then connect to them (I go between school and 2 houses all with wireless) without the confusion of going into iwlist/ifconfig etc08:00
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(Dragon/#ubuntu) cooool08:00
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benplautwhat the hell?08:02
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benplautthis one is really bad...08:02
zerboxxI'd say, got me twice08:02
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cafuego_Hmmm.08:02
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_frankthey restarted a server or something08:02
zerboxxbob2: Well I'd like an easy way to see visible networks to then connect to them (I go between school and 2 houses all with wireless) without the confusion of going into iwlist/ifconfig etc08:02
benplautyeah08:02
bob2they're replacing the ircds08:03
deFryskok now who is flooding her ? ;p08:03
cafuego__frank: they're restarting ALL servers08:03
naliothnot too nice for conversations08:03
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naliothjasoncohen: you'll need to do the dpkg-reconfigure dance for your video08:03
benplautthere goes my 1000 line log...08:03
bob2zerboxx: netapplet is nice then, or whatever xfce/kde equivalent08:03
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nate_bob2: what was the name of the compiler you recommended? Anjunta?08:03
volvoguydid the internet just die, or was it just me?08:03
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jasoncohennalioth, i've already done so08:03
bob2nate_: it's not a compiler, it's an IDE08:03
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jasoncohennalioth, and i used the advanced setting to manually set the horizontal and vertical refresh08:03
benplautvolvoguy, freenode restarting servers08:03
robert1123bob2: I dont see php4-mysql in the list so does how do I get it08:03
nate_thats, what I meant08:03
naliothjasoncohen: sorry im late, was rudely disconnected08:03
bob2nate_: the only useful, common compiler on Linux is gcc08:03
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robotgeekis there a Network Manager channel anywhere?08:03
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jasoncohennalioth, the gnome tool seems to be ignoring my vertical refresh settings. it will only let me use 60 for any resolution when i can use 75 @ any res08:04
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ezsquirtdoes anyone use roor-portal here ?08:04
_frankbob2: isn't there a intel compiler for linux as well?08:04
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nate_I meant the IDE, whats it called and can I get it through apt-get?08:04
jasoncohennalioth, yeah, i was disconnected as well08:04
bob2robotgeek: if there was, it'd be on irc.gnome.org08:04
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bob2_frank: sure, but it's not common08:04
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robotgeekbob2: thanks08:04
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volvoguybenplaut, interesting. comcast did something too. i lost my IP addess and couldn't renew the DHCP for a few minutes.08:04
bob2robert1123: well, it's there; perhaps you didn't enable universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:04
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benplautvolvoguy, who knows...08:04
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robert1123bob2: how do I do that from cmd. Ubuntu only showed from a gui stand point08:05
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jtan325oh man08:05
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jasoncohennalioth, i'm not sure why it's doing this. it worked fine with my CRT08:05
jtan325the joins just keep flowing08:05
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bob2robert1123: I don't know what those sentences meant08:05
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jasoncohennalioth, i'm using a 19" LCD with DVI input08:05
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nate_bob2: Is it called Anjunta? Can I get it through apt-get?08:06
bob2robert1123: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to enable universe, tho08:06
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robotgeeknate_: anjuta08:06
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jasoncohennalioth, it doesn't really matter as 1280x1024 @60 is recommended and looks great. I was just wondering why it's doing this08:06
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bob2nate_: anjuta, yes08:06
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nate_Thank you, bob2, robotgeek08:06
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benplautjtan325, no kidding08:07
benplautwe were at about 490, so 60 more to go08:07
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jasoncohenanyone else having difficulty setting the max refresh rate on an LCD monitor"08:07
volvoguyanyway... i moved my one linux software raid drive to the other ide bus and it changed from hdb to hdc. i booted a live cd, assembled the array, mounted it and changed the setting in mdadm.conf, but upon reboot it was still looking for hdb. where else might i need to reconfigure things to look for hdc instead of hdb?08:07
robotgeekjasoncohen: LCD monitors have a refresh rate?08:07
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jasoncohenvertical refresh08:08
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bob2yo Husk08:08
robotgeekjasoncohen: okay, if you say so :)08:08
jasoncohenor vertical frequency08:08
cafuego_jasoncohen: yuou don't need to specify refreshs etting for LCD screens in X.08:08
jasoncohenrobotgeek, they don't?08:08
jasoncohencafuego, why?08:08
cafuego_jasoncohen: They run at 60Hz08:08
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jasoncohencafuego, is there an advantage to running at 75?08:09
cafuego_jasoncohen: When you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and it asks if you have an LCD, just say yes.08:09
jasoncohencafuego, yeah, that's been done08:09
cafuego_jasoncohen: No, that setting doesn't apply to LCDs. It's like enabling DMA on a scsi disk or asking what blue sounds like.08:09
jasoncohenoh, i didn't realize that- sorry08:10
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Whistlerhow do i remobe dir?08:14
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Whistlerfrom teminal?08:14
bimberiWhistler: rmdir08:14
Whistleroh08:14
Whistlerthx08:14
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bimberiWhistler: rm -rf <dir> (if it's not empty, use with care :) )08:15
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cafuego_Well, there's something. Can't use md on PPC unless you have  an msdos disklabel.08:15
jasoncohencafuego, that's strange. i ran through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again and it never asks if i have an LCD08:16
jasoncohencafuego, what question were you referring to?08:17
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imsickhello08:17
imsicki need some help08:17
imsickanyone?08:17
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robertbbWhat's the apache directive for allowing directory listings?08:17
robertbbOne that works in a .htaccess file08:17
tritiumimsick, just ask your question08:18
imsickthanks tri08:18
cafuego_Options +Indexes08:18
deFryskfirst ask if you can ask to ask08:18
imsicki have an mp3 file08:18
imsickhow do i get the codec08:18
robertbbcafuego: Thank you :-)08:18
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imsickand what player should i use08:18
jasoncohencafuego, i went through it once again. it never asks if i have an LCD.08:19
imsicki also need help re: div x files08:19
cafuego_Where do I send the breezy ppc bug reports?08:19
deFrysk! mp308:19
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support08:19
cafuego_jasoncohen: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg'08:19
robert1123bdb2: I am getting this when I enter edit /etc/apt/sources.list ' Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*" Error: no "edit" mailcap rules for type "application/"08:21
robert1123bob208:21
bob2use an actual editor08:21
bob2e.g. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list08:21
robert1123ohhhh!!!08:21
robert1123duh!!!08:21
robert1123thanks08:21
deFrysknano -w for wrapping long lines08:21
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jasoncohencafuego, i still don't see the option. after choosing resolutions it asks if i want to use simple, medium, or adanced modes for setting the monitor specs. i chose medium and used 1280x1024@ 60 Hz08:22
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cafuego_jasoncohen: shoulda chosen simple08:25
volvoguysince everyone is pretty much back, i'll ask again....08:25
volvoguyanyway... i moved my one linux software raid drive to the other ide bus and it changed from hdb to hdc. i booted a live cd, assembled the array, mounted it and changed the setting in mdadm.conf, but upon reboot it was still looking for hdb. where else might i need to reconfigure things to look for hdc instead of hdb?08:25
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ElvenProgrammermy cdrom drive is borken, it reads only for some minutes then it stops, is there an installation cd which only copies basic files then continue using internet?08:25
naliothcafuego_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, i believe08:26
jasoncohencafuego, simple just gives several sizes - up to 14, 15, 17, 19-20, 2108:26
cafuego_jasoncohen: hmm, odd08:26
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jasoncohencafuego, coudl it be because i'm using DVI input?08:26
jasoncohenor should it ask regardless of the monitor or input08:27
cafuego_jasoncohen: no, X wouldn't know about VDI vs VGA08:27
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nicholaspaulhello you beautiful people, you :)08:27
nicholaspaulis the resident php expert around ? i have a question.....08:28
bob2best to just ask your question08:28
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nicholaspauloh alright :) I have a test.php file in the apache folder that isnt parsing . what could be up?08:29
bob2more details08:29
bob2e.g. what version of apache, which php package you installed...08:29
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nicholaspaulok bob2 - Apache2, php4, Hoary. Thursday afternoon , i havent been drinking.08:30
onkarshindeIMHO while creating new user, in user profiles, default group for 'Desktop User' should be users and not $user. Any opinion about this?08:30
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naliothwow that was a rush08:30
bob2nicholaspaul: libapache2-mod-php408:30
volvoguybob2, nicholaspaul just used synaptic to install php4 (which pulls apache2 in as a dependency i think).08:30
cafuego_onkarshinde: vi /etc/adduser.conf08:30
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nicholaspaulthe file is simply <? phpinfo(); ?> bob208:30
cafuego_onkarshinde: You cna edit the suer you just did using the 'visudo' command.08:30
jasoncohencafuego, this is in hoary btw08:30
nicholaspaulyea bob2 i got that file08:30
bob2nicholaspaul: install that package08:30
cafuego_nicholaspaul: Did you enable short_open_tags ?08:30
nicholaspaulcafuego__ no, how do i do that?08:31
bob2nicholaspaul: it's not a file, it's a package08:31
onkarshindecafuego_: I know I can edit it. I am saying that this should be default. What is the meaning to create new group for every user by default.08:31
nicholaspaulyea bob2 its installed .08:31
bob2volvoguy: the php4 package doesn't have a DSO for apache208:31
cafuego_nicholaspaul: check /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini08:31
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bob2nicholaspaul: and you read it's README.Debian?  apache2's log says the php module is loaded?08:31
nicholaspaulthx cafuego__ i'll check08:32
nicholaspaulbob2 - i havent read that readme..08:32
ElvenProgrammeror maybe you can tell me how to go on with installation using network...08:32
bob2the log is the important bit08:32
cafuego_onkarshinde: yes, i realise that. This is why i told you about adduser.conf08:33
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onkarshindecafuego_: should I log a bug for it?08:33
cafuego_onkarshinde: the 'new group for each user' is just normal policy; easy on a multi-user desktop system (perhaps not so on a large mainframe, but then that's notreally what ubuntu is for)08:33
cafuego_onkarshinde: No, it's a feature.08:33
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Rimuhi all08:34
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Rimui am considering installing ubuntu on a second hard disk08:34
nicholaspaulthx cafuego__ i'll check : it says short_open_tag = On08:34
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Rimuthe wiki only talks about how to install it on an existing disk08:34
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Rimudoes anyone have links to an article i should read?08:35
bob2use the normal installer08:35
naliothRimu: are both disks in the same machine at the same time?08:35
bob2select second disk at the partitioning stage08:35
bob2enjoy!08:35
Rimuthere are a million "how to dual boot linux" web sites, they all say different things :(08:35
Rimuyes08:35
bob2ignore them all08:35
nicholaspaulbob2 - -where's the apache2 log?08:35
naliothRimu: bob2 gave you the answer08:35
Rimuhmm08:36
Rimuyeah..08:36
bob2nicholaspaul: /var/log/apache2/error.lgo08:36
volvoguyRimu, the installer can handle everything for you. the bootloader should see your other operating system and automagically add it.08:36
cafuego_nicholaspaul: Then you need to make sure php4 is enabled and the your browser isn't caching the incorrect file08:36
Rimuthat's how it should be! :D08:36
nicholaspaulenabled in the browser, cafuego__ ?08:36
nicholaspaulchecking now, bob208:36
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cafuego_nicholaspaul: How on earth would run run a php4 module in a BROWSER?08:37
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zerboxxIs there a place that documents what will be available in breezy?08:40
nicholaspauleh, cafuego__ ?08:40
nicholaspauli'm just trying to open a php file in a browser..08:40
Rimuyou need a web server08:40
nicholaspauloh i gots a browser:D08:40
volvoguynicholaspaul, php is processed on the server, not the browser.08:40
Rimuthe web server interprets PHP and spits out HTML, which browsers can handle08:40
bimberi!breezy08:40
ubotuhmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/08:40
nicholaspaulyea.. i know..08:40
nicholaspaul:D08:40
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onkarshindeI have one NTFS partition mounted as read only (default in fstab). I want that when I copy something from this drive to ubuntu partition it should have access permissions 644 for whoever copied the file. How do I achieve this?08:42
benplautubotu forget breezy08:42
ubotui forgot breezy, benplaut08:42
nicholaspaulvolvoguy, i use the ubuntu apache the same way the OSX apache - i have a link to the folder, then click on a site folder to open it - usually its index.php.08:42
benplautubotu breezy is hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/08:42
ubotubenplaut: okay08:42
benplautoops08:42
Rimuchmod 644 <filename>08:42
nicholaspaulbob2, what am i looking for in that log file?08:43
Rimuyou should also be able to change the access permissions by right-clicking on the file and going 'properties'08:43
bob2a mention of php08:43
Rimuanyway, gotta run. thanks for the help08:43
Madpilotbenplaut: you don't have to always do the forget thing with ubotu - try "ubotu, no, <foo> is <new blurb>"08:44
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benplautahh08:44
benplautthanks08:44
onkarshindeRimu: I know how chmod works. I want to do it automatically for any file copied from this particular partition.08:44
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dabarhi08:45
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benplauthi08:45
nicholaspaulbob2 - [Wed Aug 24 22:58:41 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations08:45
bob2no php then08:45
dabarI was wondering, to send an email, to my user name, on my computer(by IP, or dynamic DNS...) do I need an email server installed?08:45
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bob2of course08:46
dabarright.08:46
bob2that's what an MTA does08:46
dabarCause you can use internal email for user names.08:46
nicholaspauloh... dammit .. hold on bob208:46
dabarI think.08:46
volvoguyman. i don't remember having to configure anything to get php/apache working. :-|08:46
nicholaspaulbob2 - [Thu Aug 25 17:21:15 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4.1 configured -- resuming normal operations08:46
bob2dabar: you need a mta for that08:46
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dabarIs that not installed by default?08:46
bob2installing libapache2-mod-php4 is usually enough08:46
bob2dabar: postfix is installed by default, but only listens on localhost08:46
nicholaspaulthats ok, volvoguy, i didnt have to configure my wifi, or scanner, or digital camera :) i'm getting off lightly08:47
dabarok, great, I will look into it, should I read some manual?08:47
bob2dabar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix08:47
bob2tell it to be an internet site with smarthost08:47
dabarnicholaspaul: thats ok, youll have to configure a friends computer soon, and all heck will break loose on you:P08:47
bob2point it at your isp's mailserver08:47
nicholaspauldabar - noooooooo !!!!08:48
dabarWhy my ISP again?08:48
bob2allow it to receive mail on port 25 by configuring your router or whatever08:48
bob2dabar: because people sending mail directly from their home dsl/cable get mail dropped on the floor08:48
volvoguyi'm to blame for introducing Linux to nicholaspaul. ubuntu is to blame for making most everything so easy. :)08:48
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nicholaspaulvolvoguy is my hero!!!08:48
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dabarI am not sure I understand that last part, sorry.08:48
volvoguyit was sarcasm. sorry. :)08:49
naliothdabar: you need to to let postfix see your ISPs mail server otw, you may be mail-less08:49
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nicholaspaulnot from me, volvoguy :)08:49
bob2dabar: you send outgoing mail via your ISP, who then sends it on for you08:49
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dabarkk.08:49
dabarbrb when I test some stuff.08:50
bob2dabar: lots of people refuse mail that comes directly from people's dsl connections because the vast vast vast vast majority is spam08:50
damskohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/162608:50
dabarah, yeah, even other ISPs, and such.08:50
damskosomeone know what i have to do?08:50
naliothbob2: 4 'vasts' isn't a lot of spam <grin>08:50
bob2I was always philisophically opposed to blocking mail from dialup people08:50
bob2but it would cut out so so so so much spam08:51
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bob2nalioth: hah08:51
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onkarshindeI installed Hoary (custom HP laptop version) yesterday on an HP laptop which is not listed on the custom page. Whom should I mail for it?08:51
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volvoguyi have to configure my local linux mail server to send mail to my big colocated machine before it goes out to the public. lots of people don't accept mail from comcast cable modems.08:51
HrdwrBoBbob2: I'm not opposed to blocking everything from dialup people :)08:51
nicholaspaul'when life gives you spam, get some eggs'08:51
bob2hah08:51
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dabarheh, this is so not gonna work; )08:52
naliothdabar: nah, it'll work great08:52
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bob2I've stopped 90 spams from hitting my inbox in the past 8 hours using rbls and greylisting08:52
dabarNo, I mean, my setup...08:52
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bob2dabar: it will work fine unless your isp is shit and blocks incoming port 2508:52
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dabarno, no, my decisions during the setup had to have been wrong.08:53
imsickthanks tri08:53
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imsicki can play the mp3 file now08:53
bob2rerun the command again08:54
damskohttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/162608:54
dabarCould I ask you guys as to how to go through it, after I make sure it did not work?08:54
damskosomeone know what i have to do?08:54
volvoguyi'm going to try rephrasing my software raid question again. :) i moved half the raid to a different ide bus and changed mdadm.conf to reflect that change. when i boot though (/boot is on a non-raid partition) it's still looking for the second disk in the original position. where else might i need to reconfigure it?08:54
dabardont ask to ask...08:54
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bob2damsko: there are no errors in that output08:55
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bob2the warnings are there because the cdrecord author is an utter crackpot08:55
naliothbob2: if i want a full-on 64bit ppc linux, am i gonna have to follow the lfs method?08:56
damskolol08:56
benplautbob2: i couldn't agree more08:56
benplauthow to i connect/log into a windows domain?08:56
nicholaspaulbob2 - if all is well, so far, do you know where else i should look to make this darn php thingy work?08:56
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bob2nalioth: why do you want a full 64-bit ppc system?08:57
bob2damsko: no, seriously08:57
naliothbob2: because i've got 64bit processors08:57
cafuego_colony3 ppc did poo08:57
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benplaut(flag me, i'm not actively watching)08:57
bob2cdrecord doesn't work without warnings unless you're like on solaris with a scsi cd writer08:57
dabarmine did not install on a i386, cafuego.08:57
bob2benplaut: depends what you want to do in it08:57
dabarCan not install the base system at all, get a red screen.08:57
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dabarof DEATH!:) heh, sorry.08:58
cafuego_dabar: Honestly, who gives a crap about i386?08:58
bob2nicholaspaul: well, it's working; what is your test file called?08:58
benplautbob2: log in and have a roaming profile, like the windows clients can (and the macs used to)08:58
nicholaspaultestphp.php08:58
dabarIt would appear that apple does now...08:58
bob2nalioth: right, and are you sure ppc64 binaries work faster?08:58
benplautie, log in via GDM, etc08:58
damskoi cant make it burn the cd T___T08:58
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bob2benplaut: PAM will let you login08:58
benplautPAM, thansk08:58
benplauti'll look into it08:58
bob2benplaut: I don't know what a "roaming profile" would do on linux08:58
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naliothbob2: <sigh>08:59
bob2damsko: so show the entire output of it, including your command line08:59
dabarDo I then check the /var/mail folder after I send to myUSer@myDomain?08:59
benplautbob2: all your files and settings travel with you when you log in08:59
nicholaspaulbob2: its called testphp.php08:59
bob2nalioth: but if yo ureally decide it's a good idea, you'd need something other than ubuntu, yes08:59
damskowait it is working08:59
damsko:D08:59
bob2nalioth: it's likely slower in general, tho08:59
durtholy cow the packs in the ubuntu breezy repositories are fudged up, tilp doesnt work, bzflag doesnt work, whereas the debian packs work normally08:59
damskoi love you :*08:59
Thunder000is there a way to upgrade from debian to breezy ?08:59
bob2dabar: no, "tail -f /var/log/mail.log", then send yourself mail09:00
benplautThunder000: how borked a system do you mind having?09:00
bob2dabar: but it will end up there if all went well09:00
naliothThunder000: if you're running woody09:00
bob2benplaut: yeah, but how would that work?  rsyncing my /home when I log off?09:00
bob2durt: please file bugs!09:00
durtbob2 how do i do that?09:00
damskoThunder000 , http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy09:00
naliothdamsko: oooh, don't do that09:01
ThardasI'm having troubles installing smbfs:09:01
ThardasThe following packages have unmet dependencies: smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1) but 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 is installed.09:01
bob2durt: bugzilla.ubuntu.com for main, launchpad.net for universe09:01
benplautbob2: yup... syncing off the server when logging in, syncing off again on logoff09:01
dabarubp:)09:01
damskonalioth, why not? :(09:01
bob2Thardas: ask on the backports forum on www.ubuntuforums.org09:01
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durtok09:01
benplautnot sure how it works, but it does (for windows and mac, anyway)09:01
dabarthe tail does what? I understand the command, just wondering why I am doing it. Just to see whether I got any mail from where I sent it from?09:01
bob2dabar: number one unix admin lesson: watch your logs09:02
damskonalioth , ok sorry :P09:02
bob2it will show you if the other side manages to connect to you or not09:02
bob2then what happens to the mail09:02
bob2etc09:02
naliothdamsko: we spend a lot of time in here fixing problems caused by it09:02
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dabarOk, in /var/log?09:03
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bob217:00:01           bob2 | dabar: no, "tail -f /var/log/mail.log", then send yourself mail09:03
damskonalioth: i didnt know it , i will not do it again09:04
dabarhow did I not see that part at the end, anyhow, no, I was asking, all logs usually at /var/log?09:04
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dabarhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1627 does that mean I sent, and received it? I think it does...09:04
naliothdamsko: it's not a bad resource for *nix veterans coming to ubuntu, but it seems to lead a whole lot of new (to *nix) users into screwdom09:04
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dabarok.09:05
Thardasbob2: there's already been a question but no one answered it. :(09:05
bob2dabar: right09:05
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dabarsee ya.09:05
bob2Thardas: go backports!09:05
dabarI mean, her.09:05
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dabarbob2: so I sent and received the mail?09:06
benQ: how can find out if i  got a AMD winchester processor instead of an Venice from my dealer?09:06
dabarbob2: I feel I should read about this, know a good resource on email admin? Cause I know I need to set up some kind of security settings, I could just feel my computer being filled up with files after I set no limit to the mailbox in dpkg-reconfigure.09:07
dabarI should likely just google.09:07
naliothdabar: you know uncle google loves you09:07
bob2don't know of a guide09:07
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dabargood.09:07
dabarUncle Google - We Want You - *points finger*09:08
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dabarThank you a lot, although I have not figured it out yet at all.09:08
benplautUncle_Google: we want you to provide open source linux versions of all your goodies. In return, you can have us,09:08
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onkarshindewhat does 'rebbot=b' kernel boot option do exactly? My laptop won't reboot. No trouble for shutdown.09:09
naliothdabar: there are many howtos out there on postfix, start at www.tldp.org first09:09
bob2onkarshinde: in breezy?09:09
onkarshindehoary09:09
benthe processor details in the device manager does not show me sse3, so i wonder...09:09
onkarshindehoary hp custom version on hp laptop09:10
dabarI just opened that page: )09:10
onkarshindebob2: hoary hp custom version on hp laptop09:10
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bz0bhey guys09:11
dabaryo.09:12
bz0bbob2, hey man, i hate to bug you again, but I just got this new wifi card, and actually its a usb one, and I tried installing it according to the aircrack document, because it is the Railink or something chipset, but it still doesnt work, by the way, its a dlink dwl g12209:12
dabarDo you guys know how to stop postfix from running, I fell a little breeze here...09:12
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bob2bz0b: unlikely to work09:13
bob2dabar: sudo invoke-rc.d postfix stop09:13
bz0boh really?09:13
bz0bis there any way to get it to work?09:13
naliothdabar: bob2 told you the easy way09:13
durtbz0b: do you need ndiawrapper?09:13
bob2usb wireless adapters are generally utter crap09:13
bob2ralink especially09:13
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dabarheh, I typed in stop postfix...09:13
dabarand I was like, why not working...09:13
bob2go see if kistmet/airsnort supports it09:13
naliothbz0b: read the ubuntu compatibility document and THEN spend your money09:14
bz0bdurt, I can't inject packets or put my card on monitor mode with ndiswrapper09:14
dabarman, I am tied sloppy, see ya,.09:14
cafuego_Okay, after  abit of manual raid array arrangement, colony3 is not booting ;-)09:14
cafuego_s/not/now/09:14
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X7Cbz0b which chipset is it?09:14
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bz0bnalioth, but my laptop is being gay, after about 10 minutes of being connect to the internet, without having it on the power cord, it freezes my notebook09:14
benplautRailink09:14
bz0band its a Railink09:14
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bz0bnailoth, that is with all pcmcia cards09:15
bob2getting it fixed and using a pcmcia adapter is likely to be way less suck than any usb adapter09:16
bz0bnalioth*, that is the same on windows09:16
bz0bbob2, do you think it might be a battery problem?09:16
bz0b'cause that is what the guy at office max said09:16
bz0bbut I wasen't sure09:17
bz0bbecause it doesnt happen with usb wifi cards09:17
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benQ: how can find out if i  got an AMD Winchester processor instead of an Venice from my dealer (the processor details in the device manager does not show me sse3, so i wonder...)?09:17
naliothbz0b: then it is definitely a hardware problem09:17
bob2that sounds like utter crap09:17
bob2ben: cat /proc/cpuinfo + google09:17
benQ: how can find out if i  got an AMD Winchester processor instead of an Venice from my dealer (the processor details in the device manager show me no sse3, so i wonder...)?09:17
benahhh, thx!09:18
bz0bwhat is sse3? nevermind google time!09:18
bob2also, repeating twice in 17 seconds is non-optimal09:18
zboxHi folks. I have a question. Is it may imagination or is Hoary not as stable as Warty?09:18
bob2it's more gaseous09:18
zboxLOL09:18
bob2or do you have a specific issue?>09:18
zboxi loved warty. it was a rock. but yah i do have issues wit hoary. nautilus crashes for no reason sometimes. and i'm still having issues with firefox even after doing the fix for it09:19
HrdwrBoBmy kitten prefers hoary, she says it makes the power supply warmer09:19
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durt/proc/cpuinfo says my speed is 1.7ghz, but the gnome panel thingy says 1.2ghz... wtf?09:20
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HrdwrBoBdurt: it has throttled your cpu down09:20
HrdwrBoBdurt: because you're not using it09:20
topylimy only serious hoary bug is with gnome-terminal crashing quite often09:21
cafuego_How rude, he PAID for those mhz!09:21
zboxand naturally i have had no problems with gnome terminal LOL09:21
HrdwrBoBcafuego_: though ironically he also pays for the watts :)09:21
bz0bby any chance does anyone know of any channels were I can post up one of my PC's for sale?09:21
topylizbox: use ncurses apps, and you might get it to crash too :)09:21
durtbut toshset is supposed to make it fast, and i know that function of toshset was working earlier09:22
cafuego_HrdwrBoB: Well, actually, in many cases mum&dad do.09:22
bz0bsorry for being off topic09:22
naliothbz0b: #ubuntu-offtopic09:22
zboxwhat ya got for sale bz0b?09:22
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cafuego_!$#$#!%^ initrd image is missing /dev/md009:22
ubotuokay, cafuego_09:22
cafuego_oh lord09:22
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bz0bzbox, not much, just an amd 64 3200+, 1gb ram, 200gb hd, 128mb nvidia video card09:22
cafuego_!forget $#$#!%^ initrd image09:23
ubotucafuego_: i didn't have anything called '$#$#!%^ initrd image'09:23
zboxhow much bz0b?09:23
naliothcafuego_: that is a most excellent factoid09:23
bz0b509:23
bz0b50009:23
cafuego_meh, now i need to go and mysql it09:23
durt"battery percent: 237%"09:23
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zboxooooooo09:23
bz0bzbox, i dont think that's too much09:23
zboxdang and i haven't sold my house yhet09:24
naliothdurt: thats ok, i just logged into kde on my powermac and it said i had low bettery, please plug in soon09:24
zboxno i don't think that is too much for that rig09:24
bz0bzbox, hehe09:24
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bz0bzbox, my father just sold our house for 1.5 mil, that we paid 330,000 6 years ago09:25
bz0b:-)09:25
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durtjesus dude09:25
durtcanadian?09:25
bz0bno09:25
durtor normal...09:25
bz0bUSD!09:25
bz0bcalifornia09:25
zboxwell bz0b be gald yall be glad yall don't live in Atlanta Texas ROFL09:25
bz0b20 minutes from LA09:25
bz0bAtlanta, TX?09:26
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zboxi think i said yall too many times <G>09:26
bz0byall hear?09:26
bz0bhehe09:26
zboxyah the other atlanta. ~;-)09:26
naliothbz0b: texas is a world state, we have paris, moscow, atlanta, etc09:26
bz0breally?09:26
bz0bwow cool09:26
bz0band really nice oc192 buildings09:26
bjorn_how its now to update too brezzy ?09:26
bz0bto leach internet off of09:26
bz0b:-)09:27
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zboxTexas is also interplanetary, we have mars texas, jupiter texas09:27
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bz0bWHAT?09:27
bz0b#ubuntu-offtopic09:27
bz0bsorry09:27
bz0bbut we are getting out of hand09:27
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bz0bwell, i should speak for myself09:27
bz0bbut yeah09:27
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durtholy shit! i can see the sun rising - better go sleep soon09:28
bz0bhehe09:28
bz0bdurt, where you live?09:28
bz0bjesus christ man09:28
zboxok i digressed. sorry. so is the consensus that hoary is just as stable as warty is?09:28
bz0bwhat09:29
bz0bno way09:29
naliothdurt: better run for the basement b4 the rays ignite something09:29
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bz0bI can crack root on warty with one command09:29
bz0bon any kernel09:29
durtlol09:29
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bz0bwell09:29
bz0bgcc -o **** ****.c09:29
ThePyromaniachello ubuntu fans09:29
bz0b./****09:29
bz0bbut yeah09:29
zboxbz0b i'm a noob  and have no idea what that means LOL09:29
mypapithello...09:29
bz0bhello ThePyromaniac09:29
mypapithow do i enable disable services in ubuntu?09:29
omegHey guys. Maybe there are bash experts that can help me. Could you give me a bash command that finds all directories called "test" (with case variations, like Test) and then deletes them?09:30
bz0bzbox, means that I can have root access to your computer, with access to one of your users09:30
ThePyromaniaccan anyone tell me why it is that ubuntu installation hates me?09:30
topyliThePyromaniac: as jdub says, "good morning freedom lovers!" :-)09:30
ThePyromaniachehe09:30
durtlocate test09:30
durtright?09:30
bob2mypapit: normally you uninstall things if you don't want them to run anymore09:30
cafuego_!test09:30
ubotuPassed.09:30
naliothdurt: that's only the first part of what omeg wanted to know09:30
durtoh09:31
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mypapitbob2, i see.. ok..09:31
naliothomeg: remember the pipe is your friend09:31
omegYeah, I usually make test folders to put random testing crap in, and I thought that using a bash command might be an easy way to get rid of them on a monthly or so basis.09:31
ThePyromaniaci tried breezy colony 3 and it freezes each time on "Installed language-en" which is 88%. I figured it was a bug so i tried 5.04 and i keep getting "Bufffer I/O Error on device hdc"09:31
zboxthats good in theory bz0b09:31
zboxbut then there is reality09:31
naliothomeg: make sure you test this bash script b4 you unleash it for real09:32
naliothomeg: are you familiar with the pipe? |09:32
ThePyromaniacthat means it installs a few packages badly at the end, and sends me to a crazy package program i cant use. then it does a buggered install that only installs the command line version09:32
bz0bzbox, actually, with ssh access to any user you create on a warty box, i can crack root, no joke09:32
omegNo, I'm a total noob when it comes to bash, and I don't even really know what "the pipe" is. :)09:32
cafuego_Hmm. How do I add /dev/md0 to the automatically generated initrd images?09:33
Madpilotomeg: | <-- that is a pipe09:33
ThePyromaniacanyone?09:33
naliothomeg: a pipe is the symbol above the windows slash (idk what it's called)09:33
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omegAh, I see.09:33
zboxthats nice bz0b09:33
naliothomeg: a pipe (like it carries water) 'pipes' output from one command to another one09:34
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bz0bzbox, you don't believe me? in a screen on the warty server i just installed, I can prove it to you09:34
durtwhich ones the slash and which ones the backslash?09:34
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omegnalioth: I see. So I could first find the folders and then delete them? Still, I don't know the necessary commands.09:34
naliothdurt: a pipe is not a question mark09:34
yahalomanyone here know of a firewall that uses white and black lists to block sites?09:34
ThePyromaniacslash is / backslash is \09:34
bz0byup09:34
bob2mypapit: or us sysv-rc-conf or bum or update-rc.d09:34
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mypapitbob2, thanks man.. :)09:34
naliothomeg: now that you know about the pipe, the rest is simple (i bet you already know the commands, and just don't know you do)09:35
zboxbz0b i hate to tell you this but frankly i don't care LOL09:35
ThePyromaniacis there anyone to help with my problem i posted earlier?09:35
bz0bxbox, dont get all scurred now!09:35
zboxLOL09:35
omeguh... "locate test|del ./test" ?09:35
omegI had the tendency to type "rd"09:35
omegGood old dos days.09:36
zboxbz0b are you like that german guy that was in that thing that was going around who insisted he was going to "wipe your hard drive any second now"?09:36
topyliomeg: just make an alias. i have md and rd :)09:36
naliothomeg: actually it's "rm <file>", but i'd just locate what you're after b4 i removed it09:36
ThePyromaniaci tried breezy colony 3 and it freezes each time on "Installed language-en" which is 88%. I figured it was a bug so i tried 5.04 and i keep getting "Bufffer I/O Error on device hdc"09:36
bz0bzbox, no, I am just proving the point on what you said, how warty was not as safe as hoary09:37
omegSo... wait. How would I remove the files that it found with "locate"?09:37
nicholaspaulbob2: thx for  your help. but it aint working. I'll wrestle another day - thanks for all your advice tho :)09:37
zboxhow is breezy doin these days yall? stable enough for real life work yet?09:37
cafuego_ThePyromaniac: file a bug, stop trying09:37
imsickhello09:37
ThePyromaniac:(09:37
nicholaspauland thanks cafuego__ for yr help too :) i'll fight another day!09:37
zboxbz0b i never said anythig about saftey between warty and hoary. i said stability.09:37
nicholaspaulGnite09:37
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imsickanyone here managed gizmo to work?09:37
bz0bzbox ok i digressed. sorry. so is the consensus that hoary is just as stable as warty is?09:38
PoromiesThePyromaniac: have you checked md5sum of the installation medias iso?09:38
imsickgizmo linux09:38
bz0bwoops09:38
imsickanyone here managed gizmo to work?09:38
topyliomeg: should be something like "rm < locate foo" i guess09:38
bz0bi thought you said i disaggreed09:38
ThePyromaniacPoromies: No i havent, you think its not fully downloaded?09:38
zboxi don't know bz0b. that is why i was asking LOL09:38
bz0bstupid old me09:38
bz0bjust point and laugh09:38
cafuego_topyli: NO!09:38
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cafuego_topyli: find / -name foo -exec rm {}\;09:38
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armor98926hey people09:38
topyliah, of course09:38
zboxmy experience so far is that hoary is not as stable as warty.09:39
bz0bwell09:39
armor98926what version of wine do you think would be best to get if you want yahoo instant messaging?09:39
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bz0bin my experience for security it is09:39
durtum.. gaim09:39
topyliarmor98926: gaim, no wine09:39
zboxbut that's just my experience. i'm going to try a fresh install here soon, and see what happens then09:40
parabolizeomeg, auto removeing any test folder would be a bad idea. try locate test now and see all the system files you will delete09:40
omeg[09:38]  <cafuego_> topyli: find / -name foo -exec rm {}\; <-- so... "find / -name test -exec rm {}\;"?09:40
armor98926well i have gaim but how can i see webcams from it then?09:40
zboxwas talking about stability09:40
armor98926and display pics?09:40
omegIf there are system folders named "test" then that is pretty stupid.09:40
cafuego_omeg: Run it as "find / -name test -print" first09:40
naliotharmor98926: use gaim for yahoo09:40
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hrothbeortomeg, just a thought but what about creating your test folders in /tmp ?09:40
bz0bzbox, in my opinion, security is part of stability09:40
topyliarmor98926: ah, that's different09:40
cafuego_omeg: OR: "unalias rm; find / -name test -exec rm -i {}\;"  - that will ask before deleting.09:41
zboxoh man my brother zerboxx just left09:41
naliothomeg: dont do things you dont understand with linux. this way leads to an empty hard drive09:41
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armor98926so what version of wine would you recommend09:41
omegI don't want to navigate to a certain folder when making test files, especially web-related ones that need to work with a relative path.09:41
zboxok thanks for your opinion bz0b09:41
omegAnyway, thanks for helping, cafuego_ and others.09:41
omeg:)09:42
bz0bI gaurentee at least 1 other person in here feels that security should be considered when it comes to stability?09:42
atomicozi use gyach, armor98926. it supports webcam,display pics, audio etc.. not in the apt-get repos though.09:42
omegI guess I'll be a little careful.09:42
zbox1 person out of 400??09:42
topylibz0b: i'd call them two different things09:42
armor98926atomicoz; is gyach  type of messenger or whath?09:42
atomicozyahoo messenger only09:42
atomicozbut it does it good in my opinion. :)09:42
bz0bso you dont think a distro's stability is included on how secure it is?09:42
bz0bwow09:42
zboxagreed topyli09:43
armor98926oh ok then how would i install it for ubuntu?09:43
fekmoin09:43
zboxno bz0b that is secuity. that is totally different than stability09:43
bz0bok09:43
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armor98926alright i guess you cant help me see you people09:44
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atomicozaaa09:44
naliotharmor98926: download the source and build it09:44
atomicozDon't go!09:44
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atomicozarmor98926: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/09:44
armor98926how do i do that09:44
durtread the INSTALL file09:44
atomicozit's precompiled already09:44
atomicozif im not tired and mistaken09:44
naliotharmor98926: easy, install "build-essential" and "checkinstall"09:45
ThePyromaniachas anyone else expierienced bugs with installing breezy?09:45
armor98926alright thanx09:45
armor98926c ya09:45
atomicozcya :)09:45
ThePyromaniaccause i was wondering if its a better idea to use 5.04, 5.10 col 3 or the daily updates?09:45
naliotharmor98926: unzip the gyach source code and change into that directory09:45
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naliothand i speak to nobody09:45
NoUse!compile09:45
ubotu[compile]  tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>09:45
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bz0bzbox, i guess i will keep my opions to my self from now on09:46
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durtmaybe ill try gyach09:46
zboxbz0b opinions are fine.09:46
naliothdurt: only if you need yahoo video chat09:46
durtnever mind...09:47
PoromiesThePyromaniac: well breezy is the current "testing" branch of ubuntu, so my guess is that most people installing it are having some sort of troubles with it.. it's still highly unstable09:47
cafuego_nalioth: Can you tell me what fstype a recompiled ppc initrd image is?09:47
twibblerWonder if somebody could help ... I have used ssh to make two connections to other machines. These apeared as desktop items. I then removed them. But every time I boot up I am asked for the passwords to login. What have I missed ?.09:48
naliothcafuego_: not anymore than i could tell you the color of a baboons spleen09:48
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cafuego_nalioth: not usibng a precompiled kernel or have one installed?09:48
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durti dont think its "highly" unstable09:48
naliothcafuego_: i've got whatver apt got for me09:48
cafuego_nalioth: that's ok: "file /boot/initrd.img-2.6.xxxxx"09:48
cafuego_nalioth: .. if you could?09:49
ThePyromaniacPoromies: fair enough. its understandable to be so impatient with it when u have seen the changelog, right? ^_^09:49
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bz0bto tell you all the truth, i think kubuntu is more stable then ubuntu09:49
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naliothcafuego_: at this time of morning, i need more instructions than that, but hang on while i fix it09:49
cafuego_<heh>09:49
ThePyromaniackubuntu is no fun tho, tried that and didn't like09:50
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ThePyromaniacinstallation of somethings is ridiculous! tried installing kftpgrabber. that required compiling so downloaded gcc. that ALSO required compiling so downloaded about 50 libs, and so on for 2 hours. no thanks!09:50
ThePyromaniacubuntu is a simple apt-get away from having most useful programs that kde doesn't even seem to have09:51
bob2wtf09:51
haakonnmy breezy64 freezes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59993 -- any suggestions are appreciated09:51
Poromieshmm, i haven't had any problems like that with kubuntu, strange O.o09:51
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bob2ThePyromaniac: please tell me you're kidding09:51
ThePyromaniacnope09:52
naliothThePyromaniac: that's funny, i compiled kftpgrabber t'other night in about 10 minutes09:52
ThePyromaniacwell it took me damn long time09:52
naliothThePyromaniac: you need to install "build-essential"09:52
ThePyromaniacindeed i did09:52
bob2wtf09:52
ThePyromaniacthen spend ages downloading each and every package for it to install right09:52
bob2you do not need to compile anything to have gcc work09:52
cafuego_nalioth: cool, thankyou :-)09:52
ThePyromaniacyes you fo09:52
bob2no, you do not09:52
naliothThePyromaniac: nah, just kde*-dev09:53
bob2if you had to, you did something wrong09:53
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naliothcafuego_: did that answer your question? that was from my currently running kernel09:53
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cafuego_nalioth: yeah (i'ms tuck ina  rescue term on colony3, coz the default initrd image doesn't have /dev/md0 on it, which is what my / is on)09:54
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cafuego_Now I should be able to mount the sucker and check09:55
naliothcafuego_: at least your cd booted, mine didnt boot at all (and it kernel panicked my osx when i booted into it)09:55
ThePyromaniacwhat did i do wrong other than sudo apt-get install build-essentials? this was from a clean install09:55
naliothThePyromaniac: i believe bob2 misunderstood you (or you misspoke your situation)09:56
bob2ThePyromaniac: why did you think you had to compile?09:56
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Ice9when I try to play something in xmms, I get this  "please check that: your soundcard is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selection, no other program is blocking the soundcard"09:56
naliothbob2: kftpgrabber is (to my knowledge) not available via apt09:56
bob2right09:56
bob2compiling that is fine09:56
bob2compiling gcc is not09:56
bob2Ice9: configure it to use esound for output09:56
andre80I need help on reading ntfs09:57
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andre80anybody can help me please09:57
NoUse!sound09:57
ubotusound is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/09:57
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maan84Hello, I'm having problem watching a *.mkv file, I've tried using Xine,Vlc,Totem,Mplayer, anyone have a suggestion?09:57
Ice9bob2, still same message09:57
naliothbob2: ThePyromaniac never mentioned compiling gcc, just having to apt it09:57
bob2"that required compiling so downloaded gcc. that ALSO required  compiling"09:58
ubuntuI am in live cd, how do i download codecs to play avi files in totem?09:58
cafuego_yes, use windows to view windows-created pirated movies09:58
bob2ubuntu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:58
naliothubuntu: system > admin > synaptic package manager09:58
ubuntuok09:58
ubuntuim in synaptoc09:58
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naliothubuntu: go the URL bob2 showed ya09:59
ubuntuok09:59
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zboxhey does anyone know of a good near realtime weather radar app for linux desktops?09:59
naliothzbox: aside from the weather applet?09:59
zboxyah aside from that nalioth10:00
Sonderbladehow do you setup ubuntu with iptables?10:00
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zboxthe gnome weather applet is ok, but i live in tornado alley. i need more up to date doppler radar LOL10:00
bob2Sonderblade: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian10:00
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naliothSonderblade: read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13010:00
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bob2or do you mean "How do I setup a firewall on Ubuntu?"?10:01
cafuego_zbox: move. I suggest a different country.10:01
Sonderbladethanks10:01
daakuis there a ppc channel?10:01
guillemWhere (repositories) can I find acrobat 7?10:01
naliothdaaku: you are in it10:01
zboxnice cafuego10:01
cafuego_#ubuntu-ppc, or you could ask us10:01
Sonderbladebob2: yes thats what i mean :) isn't iptables and firewall the same thing?10:01
orlokguillem: acrobat 7?10:01
orlokguillem: hmm, inneresting, most people use ghostscript/xpdf rather than acroread10:02
guillemorlok, acroread 7, I mean10:02
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orlokyou in the pdf business?10:02
naliothSonderblade: iptables is a firewall and more10:02
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guillemorlok, acroread has some features xpdf has not. I use them both10:02
naliothSonderblade: read the URL i sent, or the link bob2 sent10:02
daakunalioth, cafuego: i think i'll stick around then. just gotta get used to the damn powerbook kb10:02
zboxand actually cafuego i am moving soon to oregon, but it will be a while until i even trust the weather there ROFL10:02
naliothdaaku: got any ppc questions?10:02
bob2Sonderblade: iptables is the core kernel part of linux's firewalling, but normally you don't use it directly10:03
guillemorlok, nope, but I like acrobat antialiasing of figures at my presentations10:03
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daakunalioth: just installed ubuntu, compiling the newest kernel with fn support. hopefully all will be well10:03
Sonderbladebob2: what do you use instead?10:03
freewoodyHi, my system can't seem to detect one of my Nic cards10:04
daakunalioth, looking for recommendations for a pcmcia 802.11 card though10:04
helloyowhats the address of the bug tracker?10:04
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naliothdaaku: see the wiki.ubuntu.com for hardware compatibility10:04
naliothdaaku: then spend your money10:04
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guillemorlok, I found it, it is at backports10:05
daakunalioth, cool, thanks10:05
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freewoodyby the way, How do I share my Internet connection with this Ubuntu box of mine10:05
freewoodyWhat do I need to do ?10:05
bob2Sonderblade: shorewall is a nice wrapper for it10:05
naliothfreewoody: we need more info. are you sharing from your ubuntu box, to your ubuntu box, what?10:05
zboxis your other machine with the connection windows or linux?10:06
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bob2helloyo: bugzilla.ubuntu.com10:06
helloyothanks bob10:06
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freewoodySorry but I just closed this box10:07
Sonderbladebob2: thanks10:07
zboxfreeewoody: is the other machine with your connection windows or linux?10:07
freewoodyI was needing help to share an Internet connection with 100 PCs using the an Ubuntu box10:07
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freewoody90 PCs are running Windows10:08
freewoody10 are running Linux10:08
naliothfreewoody: you'll need a few switches or hubs for that10:08
freewoodyNo problem10:08
zboxfreewoody and the machine providing the connection is running what?10:08
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helloyobreezy isn't working for me due to my network not being configured correctly (8139cp instead of 8139too), how do i fix this?10:08
naliothzbox: his ubuntu box10:08
freewoodyI am using Ubuntu with the machine providing the connection10:09
ubuntuHow do i enable ssh in the live cd?10:09
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naliothubuntu: it is default on the lived, or install "openssh-server"10:09
maeis anyone having problems with sound-juicer/totem/rhythmbox _all_ crashing on breezy colony-310:09
ubuntuso are you saying it is already on?10:10
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maeon startup mind you, not after use10:10
helloyocould somebody please help me with a showstopper breezy bug?10:10
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ubuntuI want to make ssh server10:10
naliothubuntu: a ssh client is default in the livecd10:10
ubuntuset up one10:10
naliothubuntu: then install "openssh-server"10:10
ubuntuok10:11
dalamarrunning unstable versions do these things10:11
jtan325helloyo, why are you using breezy?10:11
helloyojtan325, thats the thing, i can't install it10:11
jtan325... i wouldn't recommend it, unless you really know what you're doing10:11
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travelleris anyone using ubuntu amd64 and hearing small beeps from their speakers (not the system speaker) everytime a key is pressed or repeated?10:12
helloyojtan325, i'm not expert, but i can usually fix little things, just its using the wrong network module, and i modprobe the right one in, but then i dont know what to do10:12
benplautwhat's the command to bring up the theme chooser?10:12
jtan325you could try #ubuntu-devel10:13
naliothbenplaut: system > preferences > themes10:13
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benplautn/m...10:13
benplautit's gnome-theme-manager10:13
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dalamarubuntu-devel does not support breezy at this time10:13
dalamarits a run at your own risk type of thing atm10:14
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mae:)10:14
helloyotheres got to be someone who knows how to configure my network properly! i have been trying for days!!!10:14
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dalamarwhy not use hoary then which would most likely work?10:15
peterretiefHey all, I got a problem with ubuntu not finding a serial mouse?10:15
helloyodalamar, because i'm over hoary10:15
Vizwhich modem u using helloyo?10:16
peterretiefhelloyo, whats the prob10:16
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robert1123thanks to all for you help10:17
helloyoViz, peterretief, i have a dhcp setup, which has always automatically setup my network until now. network isn't initiliased, and i get an error at startup saying something along the lines of 8139cp not supported, use 8139too10:17
robert1123I got my web server up10:17
ubuntuI get this error There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file you might need to install the corresponding plugins10:17
ubuntui just installed w32codecs10:17
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freewoodySo how do I share my Internet with my Ubuntu box10:17
ubuntuand how do i change root password in the root terminal?10:17
naliothubuntu: have you installed realplayer?10:17
ubuntuno10:17
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ubuntuits an avi file10:18
peterretiefhave you tried setting up manual10:18
helloyopeterretief, no, i can't find that setting, is it in "expert" mode?10:19
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ubuntuWhats the command to install vlc media player? as that will have the codecs?10:19
dalamarlol10:19
helloyoubuntu, give totem-xine a go10:19
naliothubuntu: use synaptic10:19
peterretiefI assume you are using gnome - xorg10:19
ubuntuok10:19
Fionndoes anyone here happen to have the evolution2.3.7 packages? I installed 2.3.8 and it always crashes on me right at the start. I need to get back10:20
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helloyopeterretief, i can't get breezy to install at all, the network doesn't configure10:20
peterretiefhelloyo, its under sytem => administration => networking10:20
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ubuntuit wont come up with  totem-xine10:20
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ubuntuwhen i search for it10:20
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helloyoubuntu, have you enabled more repositories?10:21
Sonderbladewould it be a good idea to use ubuntu installed as a server as a dedicated firewall?10:21
peterretiefI though t breezy hadnt been released10:21
ThePyromaniacalthought this isnt strictly ubuntu question, its involved with the proccess of installation ^^, how do i remove an OS from the OS boot menu?10:22
ubuntuyeh repositories have been added10:22
Madpilotubuntu: you need Universe/Multiverse repos enabled10:22
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ubuntuthey are10:22
helloyopeterretief, it hasn't, but i want to give it a go10:22
ThePyromaniaci accidenetally almost installed a 2nd version of win64, then deleted the partition. now it wont go away10:22
Madpilot!info totem-xine10:22
NgThePyromaniac: the boot menu is /boot/grub/menu.lst10:22
ubotutotem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB10:22
NgThePyromaniac: edit it and remove the one you don't want. Obviously be *very* careful and take a copy first ;)10:22
helloyoi've install e17 off smoons repository, but when i log into it, i get a black screen, which changes white, then doesn't do anything10:23
ubuntufine10:23
peterretiefhelloyo, i run my dhcp from a separate machine10:23
peterretiefi need some clues on setting up a serial mouse10:23
FionnPLEASE, does anyone here happen to have the evolution2.3.7 packages? I installed 2.3.8 and it always crashes on me right at the start. I need to get back10:23
peterretiefhelp10:23
naliothSonderblade: ubuntu is a *nix like any other, it's all how you configure your iptables10:24
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ThePyromaniacNg: How would i go about editing that? can windows see it?10:24
cafuego_Fionn: /var/cache/apt/archives10:24
ThePyromaniacoh, i removed grub. i have windows on a totally separate harddrive10:24
Vizis anyone else getting "unmet dependencies" errors when trying to install stuff, including kde?10:24
NgThePyromaniac: ah, if you're using the windows boot menu thing then I have no idea :)10:24
mrdeathhello. how i set ask gnome mixer to handle oss mixer?10:24
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naliothViz: you must have unofficial repos10:24
ThePyromaniacdamn, heh10:24
ThePyromaniacthanks anyway Ng10:24
mrdeathhow i can set10:24
Vizunofficial?10:25
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Ngmrdeath: the one on the panel? right click on it and choose preferences10:25
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_danieli have problems compiling appletouch module10:25
Ngmrdeath: if you mean the full gnome mixer application in Applications->SoundandVideo then go into its file menu and use the Change Device submenu :)10:25
mrdeathNg: preferences window don't apear :(10:25
Ngmrdeath: odd, it's not behind another window or something?10:26
mrdeathNg: oh, okay. thanks10:26
mrdeathnope10:26
mrdeathjust no window10:26
Ngbizarre :o10:26
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twibblerCan anybody help me with getting skype working on ubuntu please ..10:27
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mrdeathNg: when i try to load gnome-volume-control i get 'No volume control elements and/or devices found.'10:27
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Ngmrdeath: does sound work at all? I'm thinking maybe it's not configured properly10:28
mrdeathNg: it works with oss module10:28
mrdeathNg: my i855 don't work with alsa :(10:28
mrdeathNg: i'm listening music now10:29
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mrdeathaumix works fine10:29
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Ngmrdeath: that's a bit of a pain. I'm not sure how you can persuade the gnome volume things to use oss without them already being running and working :/10:29
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Ngyou might be able to change the gconf keys directly, but I'm not sure I'm afraid10:30
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mrdeathNg: okay. i will try to figure this situation our myself10:30
Fionncafuego_: only the new version is there, not the old one10:30
mrdeathdon't like gnome. maybe it will be a good idea to back to kde10:31
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Fionncafuego_: apt-get needs an UNDO ;-)10:32
armor98926i want the actual yahoo messenger how do i get it?10:32
Fionnarmor98926: apt-get -f install gaim10:32
SorinNhi there ..is here someone who can install and use Beagle (desktop search ) in Ubuntu ?10:32
armor98926what the other one that gives me webcam and stuff like that/10:32
NgSorinN: I believe there are instructions in the wiki10:33
SorinNk ..thanks10:33
SorinNI''' searc there10:33
SorinNsearch10:33
osfameronannoyingly you can't just install beagle from synaptic/apt-get iirc10:34
armor98926im trying to get webcam on gaim how do i do iti10:34
ycombsorinN: I am on breezy - installed with apt and it Just Worked(tm)10:34
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osfameronthere's instructions on beagle site on which order you have to add the packages, I thought10:34
Fionnarmor98926: you want gaimvv (on sourceforge) or gnome-meeting.10:35
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armor98926i have gaim i just dont have wecam how do i get that10:35
Fionnarmor98926: standard gaim cant do video10:35
xulMunkeehelp! my gnome desktop has disappeared; no icons, no background image, nothing!10:35
armor98926is their any other chat one that i can get that can?10:36
Fionnarmor98926: gnome-meeting can do that10:36
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Fionnarmor98926: it is a netmeeting[tm]  comaptible messaging system.10:36
ThePyromaniachas anyone here ever used win32 on a computer that used to have a 32 bit proccessor, then upgraded to 64-bit?10:36
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FionnThePyromaniac: hehe, sounds like fun10:37
armor98926it says hte command is not found how do i get it10:37
Fionnarmor98926: open a root shell and type: "apt-get -f install gnome-meeting"10:37
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broncohowdy. I'm trying to play a file with vlc, I know the file works, since I've viewed it before, but now, nothing is happening when it tries to play10:38
xulMunkeecan anyone help?10:38
armor98926is that the same as the terminal?10:38
Fionnarmor98926: sorry, the name is "gnomemeeting", not "gnome-meeting"10:38
ThePyromaniachmm, it says to me "hardware change, bla" and it gives the Safe Mode, Safe Mode with command prompt, reboot with last known good config settings page, ya'll know the one. anyone ever had that?10:38
Fionnarmor98926: yes, it it the terminal. and you must be the root user when you enter the command.10:39
ThePyromaniacoh and i found the way to remove a broken OS from the boot menu if anyone wants to know, ask me and i will tell ^^10:39
armor98926it says could not open lake of fie10:39
armor98926file*10:39
Fionnarmor98926: if you aint root, then type "su -" first and enter your administrator apssword10:39
MadpilotFionn: Ubuntu uses "sudo", remember10:39
FionnThePyromaniac: sorry, never had windows actually ;-)10:40
FionnMadpilot: is that so.10:40
Madpilot!sudo10:40
ubotumethinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:40
armor98926it says command not found10:40
ThePyromaniacFionn: you are a lucky guy/gal10:40
armor98926i have to put10:41
broncohowdy. I'm trying to play a file with vlc, I know the file works, since I've viewed it before, but now, nothing is happening when it tries to play10:41
brennerbronco: define 'nothing' ... does vlc load at all?10:41
armor98926su-apt-get -f install gnomemeeting10:41
broncovlc loads10:41
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broncobut won't load the file10:41
brennerbronco: but no sound or video?10:42
Fionnarmor98926: try: "sudo apt-get -f install gnomemeeting"10:42
broncono, neither10:42
brennerbronco: any errors?10:42
broncono10:42
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brennerbronco: run vlc from terminal, and check for any error output10:42
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armor98926it says i have the newest version now what10:42
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xulMunkeemy gnome desktop has disappeared: no icons, no background image either. what can i do?10:43
FionnxulMunkee: so what did you do before it vanished?10:44
I_C_WIENERxulMunkee, what about a restart?10:44
mypapitI_C_WIENER? that guy that ordered pizza from fry?10:44
xulMunkeeI did log-out and log back in, but no change10:44
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broncobrenner - it says "no suitable access module" for the file name10:44
xulMunkeeFionn, i don't know :(10:44
I_C_WIENERsure mypapit10:44
Fionnarmor98926: then start it. type "gnomemeeting" at the command prompt and press ENTER10:45
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I_C_WIENERmypapit, I_C_WIENER rules :)10:45
FionnxulMunkee: wow, no desktop and no memory. must have been a fun night.10:45
brennerbronco: weird ... can you think of any system changes you made to make it stop working?10:45
armor98926now it works thanx10:45
mypapitI_C_WIENER, hehe10:45
brennerxulMunkee: reconfifure the xorg package10:45
brenner*reconfigure even10:46
xulMunkeebrenner, how?10:46
bronconone at all...it worked when I left for work, then I came back from work, restarted, and now nothing:/10:46
Fionnarmor98926: you can also start gnome meeting from your start menu. it is in the internet folder10:46
brennersudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:46
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brennerbronco: [1]  what's the file type? [2]  tried other media players?10:47
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broncoits avi10:47
Fionnbrenner: i'd bet his WM is gone or gnome-session is stuck. Dont know if reconfiguring xorg will be a good idea10:47
broncoand totem doesn't work either10:47
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brennerbronco: totem requires w32codecs10:48
ilba7rbronco are you using the default installed totem10:48
brennerbronco: switching to toem-xine helps as well10:48
broncoyes10:48
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ilba7ryou need to change it as brenner said10:48
brennerFionn: i've heard of someone losing their panels, reconfiguring xorg fixed it ... just a stab10:48
broncowell the problem is, the computer I am trying to view it on currently doesn't have internet access10:48
brennerbronco: well, maybe try reinstall the vlc package thru synaptic10:49
broncocan I do that without internet?10:49
ilba7rbrenner did he try typing gnome-panel in a terminal10:49
brennerbronco: should be10:50
brennerilba7r: who?10:50
ilba7rthe one who have trouble with the gnome-panel10:50
bronconope, can't :/10:51
brennerilba7r: i think he did... long time ago10:51
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brennerbronco: you marked for reinstallation?10:51
robotgeekdamn, vlc is broken in breezy!10:51
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broncoyes10:51
broncosays can't access http://whatever the repository is10:51
toadyhi, where is the bugtracker for ubuntu ?10:51
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brennerbronco: are you using breezy?10:51
broncono10:51
ilba7rok just there is a default gnome session /etc/gnome/default.session copying it to .gnome2 always worked for me :)10:52
armor98926Fionn: can i now view webcam off of Gaim?10:52
brennerbronco: dunno then ... when can you get net access back up?10:52
broncotomorrow night10:52
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brennerilba7r: you should be telling xulMunkee. he's the one with gnome probs. :)10:53
armor98926is fionn still here?10:53
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brennerbronco: how are you talking to us then?10:53
broncothis computer has working internet10:54
brennerbronco: anyway, i'd google for that error you got then10:54
broncoI'm going to get a new nic for the other one tomorrow10:54
brennerwhile you wait for tomorrow10:54
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Thorondorhow to search&replace directory-wide including subdirs?10:55
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brenner!tell toady about bug10:56
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Tonkahow do I place trash icon on the desktop? thanks.10:56
toadybrenner: :) tx10:57
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Fionnhehe. hpfblle10:57
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Fionnoops10:57
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w1nggood morning10:58
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w1ngi have a prob with my ssh10:58
mypapitmorning w1ng10:58
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Julia1morning all!10:58
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w1ngi can't access my server in the LAN from the Internet10:58
twibblerok Ive asked about skype problem and have been investigating .... I have managed to resolve skype by removing esound ... however I need esound for music etc .. has anybody come acroos this10:58
w1ngI have a connection somehow10:58
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w1ngI am asked for a password10:59
MadpilotTonka: right-click on either taskbar, select "Add to Panel" and scroll down until you see Trash10:59
w1ngbut when i type it in nothing happens10:59
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ilba7rare you running sshd on the server pc?11:00
w1ngwhat is that?11:00
brennerMadpilot: that's the panles, not the desktop. :)11:00
brenner*panels even11:00
Julia1I have a stupid unix question:  In windows, if you activate tab-complete for the shell, if there are several possible completions after typing a portion of a path, repeatedly pressing tab will cycle through the various options.  When you get the right one, you press enter.  With bash, if there's several possible options, it farts and throws up the possible solutions, expecting you to type more to resolve the ambiguity.  Is there a way t11:00
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ilba7rw1ng are you connecting to a server or just on a home lan11:01
Madpilotbrenner: heh, missed the "on the desktop" part of Tonka's question - need more sleep11:01
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j-miHi everyone, I'm having some troubles with a penndrive11:02
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Julia1No one know bash config?11:02
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j-miafter I mount it, I can only write/delete as root user11:02
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j-miis this normal?11:03
kemikJulia1:  what do you mean ?11:03
Julia1I've been googling it, and have found nothing.11:03
brennerJulia1: it's pretty quiet atm in here, tried #linux?11:03
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kemikj-mi:  maybe have to set umask, or mount it with "uid=youruser, gid=yourgroup"11:03
Julia1OK,  I'll go to linux.11:03
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Thorondorhow can i search&replace in a whole directory including subdirectories?11:03
kemikrename11:04
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j-miI had umask=000 in the /etc/fstab, but it's the same11:04
kemikbut i'm not sure if rename can go recursive, perhaps you need to use find and pipe it to rename11:05
CoyctecmIs those colony different than array was in hoary?11:05
CoyctecmI mean is colony more unstable than array?11:06
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kemikj-mi:  umask=000 would give noone any rights i think11:06
CoyctecmI remember when hoary was published I was installed my hoary in array 5 cd =)11:07
clem_yeatsumask 000 gives a default 777 permission11:07
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clem_yeatsrights to everybody11:07
kemikah :)11:07
frisbeboyrwx 2 everybody11:07
j-miwell, that's what I have for my fat32 partitions and work fine ;)11:07
MadpilotCoyctecm: no idea about stable, but the names are based on the collective nouns for the animals - a sounder of warthogs or a colony of badgers11:07
I_C_WIENERdoes somebody use the latest cedega?11:07
clem_yeatssubstract the umask value to 777. The result is the default chmod value11:07
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frisbeboydefault chmod value?11:08
ubuntuWhy is totem xine not apt-gettng?11:08
Madpilotgood night/morning/$time_of_day, everyone. I need sleep11:08
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kemikubuntu:  totem-xine ?11:08
ubuntuYes11:08
brennerubuntu: cos it's called totem-xine11:08
brennernight Madpilot11:08
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ubuntuthat doesnt help Brenner11:09
ubuntustill not apting11:09
brennerubuntu: need to enable universe11:09
ubuntuHow11:09
brenner!repos11:09
ubotuwell, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96911:09
leymanhey, so is breezy generally broken right now, or is it just my setup?11:09
naliothleyman: breezy is broken11:09
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leymannalioth, like, broken in really strange glibc-ways?11:10
naliothleyman: like not ready for your production machine11:10
leymannalioth, yeah, that i know. but see latest three days or so it has rather regressed in to the depths of total unusability11:11
naliothleyman: and until you see the fanfare of "Preview Release X of Breezy Badger" it will continue to be a roller coaster11:12
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clem_yeatsfrisbeboy : default chmod value... I mean, the permission which is given to any new file when created.11:12
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leymannalioth, yes i know that thank you. i just want a confirmation as to this specific breakage is general or just my causing11:13
brennernalioth: hello, haven't seen _you_ in a while. (reka here)11:13
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naliothbrenner: how do you expect to get abused by your peers, if you keep changing your nick?11:14
xerathhi, I wanna format my 160gig to fat11:14
mypapitxerath, 160 to fat? omg... lot's of space will be wasted..11:14
xerathI wanna format my 160 gig to fat so I can read it from windows and linux, whats the best program to do this with in linux, cfdisk? fdisk?11:14
brennernalioth: in general, i like avoiding abuse. :)11:14
naliothxerath: there are ext2/3 drivers for XP11:15
mypapitxerath, mkfs.vfat will do, assuming you already have 160gig partition11:15
xerathnalioth: really? since when?11:15
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kamstrupnalioth: True? I've been searching for that11:15
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xerathI know vfat is a shit partition type11:15
naliothxerath: kamstrup y'all search at sourceforge11:15
mypapitxerath, ext2fs driver have been there for windows quite some time...11:15
xerathnalioth: do they support write access11:15
naliothxerath: yup11:15
mypapitxerath, they do support write access... but no journalling support though11:16
raphaHi all!11:16
raphaHow can you tell apt-get not to update some packages?11:16
kamstrupxerath: setup the partitions with fdisk and do 'mkfs.vfat /dev/hdX'11:16
ilba7rxerath you can write or read from them only but you can not open files from window11:16
xerathumm ok well then I'll format my drive as ext3 and install kamstrup on xp, better than vfat I think11:16
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j-miis there a way to install splashy with the actual official version of libc6 (dsl-22ubuntu14)?11:17
kamstrupxerath: Install _me_ on XP?11:17
naliothrapha: search the wiki.ubuntu.com for "pinning"11:17
raphathx nalioth!11:17
kamstrupxerath: :-D11:17
j-miI mean 20ubuntu-1411:17
xerathhaha typo11:17
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kamstrupxerath: I'm not sure I'd be comfy in your hd...11:17
brenneris kamstrup really better than vfat?11:18
kemikrapha:  or use synaptic11:18
kamstrupbrenner: yes I'm atomic and journaling11:18
mypapitkamstrup, seems that your nick have received a new meaning..11:18
brenner:)11:18
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kamstrupbrenner: Just showe a slice of pizza through the cd-drive every week and I'll be happy11:19
xerathilba7r: isnt read access , opening the files?11:19
ws010solo11:19
ws010hi................11:19
clem_yeatsxerath : he probably meant opening folders..11:20
ilba7rxerath if you use ext2fs it just a small program (utility) to copy files from unix partition to a window one.11:20
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ilba7ror vice versa11:21
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ilba7rat least that the ver i am using11:21
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j-miis there a way to install splashy with the actual official version of libc6 (dsl-20ubuntu14)?11:22
naliothxerath: kamstrup: y'all have a look at sourceforge for ext2fs11:22
ilba7rnalioth was it updated recently ?11:23
naliothilba7r: not sure, i run ppc so have no use for it11:23
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ilba7rnalioth fair enough11:24
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ubuntuI just downloaded totem-xine which works thank god, but i dont have any sound11:26
ubuntuwhat can i do11:26
xerathhey11:27
kamstrupnalioth: Ok found... Looks like the ext2fsd driver from ext2fs is the right solution11:27
xerathanyone know of a cool cpu monitor I can stick on my desktop...11:27
xerathubuntu: try mplayer11:27
brennerubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/11:27
xerathkamstrup: for?11:27
Uthiniyeah ubuntu, mplayer is the leet11:27
kamstrupnalioth, xerath : does ext2fs really work? I didn't know that you could write FS drivers for win11:28
ubuntuok11:28
ubuntuapt-get mplayer11:28
brennerflippin mplayer lovers. :)11:28
Uthinilol brenner, its okay, well save sum luvin 4 u :P11:28
kamstrupxerath: for making an ext2 partition visible in windows11:28
ubuntuit wont find mplayer11:29
raphanalioth: that helped11:29
raphakemik: thx; i'd rather stay on the command line right now11:29
raphabye!11:29
kamstrupxerath: it has to show up as an odinary filesystem or else WinAmp won't be able to use it I guess11:29
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ubuntuwhat repository was mplayer in so i can simply add it11:30
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brennerok, my turn to ask a question ... aattempting an apt-get upgrade, i get this: The following packages have been kept back: <list of packages>   what's up with that?11:30
brennerubuntu: multiverse iirc11:30
xerathubuntu: search for synaptic package manager11:31
xerathI mean in it11:31
Uthinibrenner, output msg?11:31
ubuntuI am in synaptic11:31
ubuntuI need the http or deb for the repository11:31
maan84Anyone know how I build Mplayer from CVS? I read that I might have to do that to be able to play H264 encodes? (MKV)11:31
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ubuntulink11:31
brennerUthini: you want the full thing?11:31
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Uthiniyeah ubuntu try sudo apt-cache search mplayer11:31
brenner!repos11:31
ubotumethinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96911:31
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kamstrupbrenner: Breezy I assume?11:31
brennerkamstrup: er, nope11:32
Uthinibrenner: put on one of the paste thingies, or paste to me in PVT11:32
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brenneri *have* enabled backports though11:33
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cyphasedoes ubuntu have any thing that allows you to switch users while staying logged on?11:34
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cyphasebesides XNest11:34
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brennerUthini: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/163111:34
Uthinicyphase: you meant without using the System Tools -> New Login screen?11:35
cyphaseyea11:35
cyphaseor the fullscreen one11:35
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ompaulcyphase, what exactly would this tool look like?11:35
xerathanyone know of a cool cpu monitor I can stick on my desktop...11:35
cyphasebecause with XNest (and the fullscreen login), when you log off the nested account, your asked for the password of the original account11:35
lirazhas anyone here got a bluetooth headset up and running in linux or is familiar with bluez? I have a problem(my stuff worked fine in fedora, so I know it's not the hardware)...11:35
maeoh man, ooo 2.0 is nice11:35
maewatchout redmond!11:36
brennerxerath: gkrellm maybe?11:36
Nermalxerath, gdesklets ?11:36
lirazI get Error: Failed to connect to SDP server: Permission denied. and Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Permission denied11:36
cyphaseis there anyhing that makes it work like XP's Switch User functionality?11:36
naliothxerath: gdesklets or superkaramba have much eyecandy of that sort11:36
ompaulcyphase, that is to protect the user of the first desktop - so there is no insecure way to do that securely11:36
brennerUthini: any ideas?11:36
cyphasei know...11:36
JavaManiaChiii all ....11:36
Uthinibrenner: all repositories are enabled?11:36
ompaulcyphase, to coin  phrase11:36
JavaManiaCim from Indonesia11:36
ompaulcyphase, to coin  a phrase even11:36
JavaManiaCim beginer in Linux11:36
Uthinibut some of those are in the ubuntu repos11:37
NermalJavaManiaC, thanks for the info11:37
brennerUthini: src repos are disbaled11:37
cyphasebut i want people to be able to log off and on without the user of the first desktop having to type in a password11:37
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cyphasei don't want their to be a "first desktop"11:37
Uthinibrenner: doesn't make sense tho, cos all those packages are from the ubuntu repos11:38
ompaulcyphase, I do not consider such a thing useful so I will not develop it, otoh you have expressed an interest, so I will leave it with you :)11:38
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cyphaselol, so there isn't anything like that11:38
Uthinicyphase: why would u want that neways?11:38
cyphasei don't have any use for it really..11:38
cyphasebut most people would need something like that11:39
ompaulcyphase, no they would not11:39
cyphasehow would they do it then?11:39
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cyphasekeep creating new logins with Syetm -> New Login11:39
cyphase?11:39
cyphasewaaaait a second11:40
ompaulcyphase, just because some random company has insecure ways for allowing people to share a machine does not mean that the rest of the world should go over the edge to follow them11:40
Uthinicyphase: u do realise that ctrl + alt + F7 - F12 flicks between those desks11:40
ompauland the screensaver password will kick in11:40
naliothcyphase: and i see a massive system drain when you open 4 or 5 xservers11:40
ompaulnalioth, some crystal ball that :)11:41
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cyphaselemme give you an example..11:41
cyphaseJohn is using the computer to download something..11:42
JavaManiaChiii all11:42
Uthinihi JavaManiaC11:42
ompaulJavaManiaC, hello11:42
cyphaseSue wants to use the computer, but John doesn't want to log off, or else the download will stop..11:42
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JavaManiaCwhy ?11:42
cyphasewhat would they do?11:42
xerathis ext2fsd stable?11:43
Uthinicyphase: system -> new login11:44
Uthiniand sue gets to work11:44
cyphaseok..11:44
naliothxerath: it's as stable as Windows XP11:44
cyphasebut what if she wants to log off..11:44
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cyphaseand Sam wants to log in11:44
funkyHatcyphase, this is already possible in debian (the X Screensaver password prompt has a button for new session) i assume it would be quite easy to get the same thing working in ubuntu11:44
cyphasei mean..11:44
cyphasewhat if she wants to stay on11:44
cyphaseand sam wants to log in11:44
ompaulcyphase, the screen for john gets password protected - and sue gets to work - where is the problem11:44
funkyHatthat's what that does11:45
Uthinicyphase: sys -> new login?11:45
naliothompaul: cyphase wants 3 users on 3 xservers at the same time11:45
leymanfunkyHat, it's there in breezy11:45
cyphasenalioth, no, i don't11:45
redguycyphase: since John propably doesn't want Sue to find out that he is downloading pr0n, he locks the screen and Sue creates e new session and logs in. After Sue has done her work she logs off and John has to give his password to unlock his display.11:45
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funkyHatthere you go cyphase ;) (what leyman said ^)11:45
ompaulcyphase, ctrl+F7 back to johns screen and when sue wants to finish her download ctrl+F811:45
cyphaseredguy, what if she wants to stay on too?>11:45
naliothcyphase: you want john logged in d/l, sue logged in ,and sam wants in too (thats 3 folks)11:46
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Uthinicyphase: learn your shortcuts, you can switch between active screens11:46
Whistlersudo chown admin /home/admin/Desktop/planeshift11:46
Uthiniand leave them active11:46
Whistleri do this11:46
Uthinicyphase: what are are areguing for exists11:46
Whistlerbut it only makes the main folder belong to me11:46
Whistleri want all subfolders and files to belong to me11:46
funkyHatcyphase, locking the screen is staying logged on11:47
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Uthiniis there no recursive switch?11:47
cyphaseUthini, is there a GUi like thing for it11:47
Uthinilike -r?11:47
cyphasei can use shortcuts np..11:47
ompaulcyphase, I just answered you, read it you can swap back and forth but you willllllllllll put in a password as you jump back and forth - now if you wanted to think about this a little you could 'share the desktop' using the desktop switcher which is located on the bottom right of your screen offering you 4 screens and ...11:47
cyphasebut not everyone can11:47
Uthinicyphase: ctrl + desk number11:47
cyphaselol11:48
Uthiniwhy you want GUI for what can be done in 2 keystrokes?11:48
cyphasemaybe i'm not putting my point across well11:48
ompaulcyphase, leave the theory for some with a real problem to get help with - and read what I said you are now trolling11:48
Uthiniits a waste of code and resources11:48
cyphaseit's late..11:48
ompaulcyphase, no its 10:48 am :)11:48
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cyphaseyea, exactly11:48
ompaulit is always morning on irc and always sunday11:48
Tom_Wlol11:49
funkyHatcyphase, also, once 'sue' logs out, it will go to the display manager, and there will be an extra button at the bottom- 'quit' which will take you back to 'john's locked screen11:49
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cyphasefunkyHat, actually, it doesn't even go to the display screen11:49
cyphasejust so you know:)11:49
ompaulI suggest we leave cyphase to troll alone11:49
cyphaseompaul, i'm not trolling11:49
funkyHatdoes for me ;)11:49
cyphasei was just speaking in a stupid way :)11:49
Uthiniguys, what cyphase wants is 1 central screen that manages all the desks, shows which users are logged in and allows u to click 1 to log in, mite i suggest windows?11:50
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Uthinirhyemes with XP i think11:50
cyphase*sigh*11:50
ompaulcyphase, see what Uthini suggested that seems like what you want11:50
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ompaulUthini, not powerful enough for me though :)11:50
Uthinilol ompaul, i shunned the evils of windows11:51
UthiniLOL11:51
ompaulUthini, I did 10 years ago11:51
Uthinialthough windows is for more idiot friendly11:51
Uthiniits way too easy for an idiot like me to lose 10GB of data on rotten partitions LOLOL11:51
ompaulUthini, perhaps, don't hang out in those circles :)11:51
Tom_Wtry Gentoo its easy enough :)11:51
Uthinithats what i did last nite11:51
cyphaselol11:51
Tom_Wits what ive got on this laptop11:52
Uthinithen i tried to create an image of my 80gb hd so i could try & salvage it11:52
cyphaseone more question..11:52
funkyHatTom_W, yeah, you can install it with only 3 lines right? ;)11:52
cyphasewhat if more then 6 people log on?11:52
cyphase;)11:52
funkyHatshame the first one is 6 pages long11:52
Uthinineedless to say I have 2 drives, a 30gb, and a 80gb, if i was making an image of the 80gb where was it going u mite ask?11:52
Tom_Wone emerge ---------------11:53
Uthinicyphase: then the 7th sap uses a command prompt :P11:53
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Tom_WVERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.11-gentoo-r2-prostar [i686/3.80GHz/SMP] 11:53
noobiedoobiedohi, the command "apt-get install sun-j2re1.5" fails 4 me11:54
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Tom_Wjava stinks11:54
SolidRavenuh, how do you uninstall or reset the hotplug system without beign able to boot into ubuntu?11:54
noobiedoobiedoand i've added the extra repos...11:54
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ompaulcyphase, you need more licences for Windows to do that of and if you that as a _trolling_ question you can actually have F1-12 as the buttons but it not best practice you really should get another machine11:54
funkyHatnoobiedoobiedo, did you add the repositories that the tutorial told you to add, and then do 'apt-get update'11:54
Tom_Wwell Sun does and that makes java have a stinch11:54
noobiedoobiedofunkyHat, I did11:54
yoavhi11:54
Tom_Whi11:55
yoavI am new to Ubuntu and trying to install Java11:55
Uthininoobiedoobiedo: error/fail msg11:55
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Uthiniyoav: pay close attention to noobiedoobiedo's questions/answers he is doing the same as you11:55
noobiedoobiedoE: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.511:55
Tom_Wis the jre in the universe packages?11:55
Tom_Wive never looked11:55
SolidRavencan somebody tell me how to uninstall the hotplug system without beign able to boot into ubuntu?11:55
funkyHat!tell yoav and noobiedoobiedo about java11:55
Uthininoobiedoobiedo: apt-cache search sun11:56
=== funkyHat wonders if ubotu will cope with that
yoavI got stuck on the make-jpkg11:56
yoavseems like I don't have this11:56
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Uthiniyoav: are you using apt?11:56
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highvoltageHi, how do I enable the web configuration from cups again?11:56
funkyHatyoav, you need to install it "apt-get install make-jpkg"11:57
andre80help11:57
andre80help11:57
SolidRavenyoav > you do have gcc installed, do you?11:57
yoavUthini: I donwloaded the .bin from Sun11:57
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noobiedoobiedoUthini, what am I looking for?11:57
andre80help11:57
yoavI tried to apt-get make-jpkg11:57
highvoltageI know i have to change something in the cupsd.conf file, but i forgot what.11:57
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Uthininoobiedoobiedo: sun-j2re11:57
yoavbut it doesn't work, says package is unknown11:57
andre80I m running on an internet shared11:57
Uthinisumthing along those lines11:57
funkyHatyoav, apt-get INSTALL make-jpkg11:57
ompaul!tell andre80  about question and ask11:57
Uthinii can't be more specific cos i'm @ the office in winbloze11:57
noobiedoobiedoUthini, it's not there.11:57
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ompaul!tell andre80  about question11:57
funkyHatoh right11:57
ompaul!tell andre80  about ask11:57
funkyHatyoav, have you added universe and multiverse repositories?11:58
highvoltage!cups11:58
ubotuhighvoltage: I give up, what is it?11:58
Uthininoobiedoobiedo: try searching with wild cards11:58
SolidRaven!coffee11:58
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, SolidRaven11:58
yoavstill get 'can't find package'11:58
andre80I m using an internet shared, the server is windows, after sometimes idle, I cannot connect to internet again until Irestart ubuntu11:58
SolidRaven:|11:58
yoavon  make-jpkg11:58
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noobiedoobiedoapt-cache search jre2 = no results11:59
andre80I m using an internet shared, the server is windows, after sometimes idle, I cannot connect to internet again until Irestart ubuntu11:59
Uthiniandre80: thats a magical error, what kind of connection are you one?11:59
andre80please help11:59
yoavhow do I add the multiverse reps?11:59
yoavwhat is the line to add to sources.list11:59
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Uthiniandre80: don't spam there are over 400 ppl in here11:59
funkyHat!repositories11:59
ubotuwell, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96911:59
andre80GPRS11:59
funkyHatyoav, see what ubotu said12:00
yoavyea, I am looking into it, thanks12:00
Uthini!GPRS12:00
ubotuUthini: I give up, what is it?12:00
Uthinilol12:00
Uthinidarn can't cop out on this one12:00
SolidRavennoobiedoobiedo > try to search for jre and not for jre2 for once :)12:00
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UthiniSolidRaven has a point noobiedoobiedo12:00
SolidRavenif you install the first version you should be able to upgrade it :)12:00
noobiedoobiedoSolidRaven, 4 results, none to do with jre.12:01
SolidRavenmhh, the java sdk has the runtime to12:01
andre80I use GPRS connection shared on a windows box12:02
andre80I connect via network cable12:02
andre80using an ubuntu box12:02
clem_yeatsJRE is a subset of JDK12:02
SolidRaveni know12:02
Uthinibut JDK is huge12:02
Uthiniin south african terms12:02
UthiniLOL12:02
clem_yeats60 Mb..12:02
noobiedoobiedoi have 4 universe sources and 2 multiverse12:02
SolidRavennot that huge12:02
andre80why not download jre from sun ?12:03
andre80I use j2se from sun and its fine12:03
SolidRaveni downloaded it over a ultra slow wireless network in 10minutes12:03
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noobiedoobiedoi'm trying to get everything apt-get style12:03
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funkyHatnoobiedoobiedo, the sun-j2re pakage isn't in any of the repositories you have12:05
funkyHatit's in hoary extras12:05
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funkyHat(or something ;))12:05
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mazwow this is cool12:06
=== Uthini thinks we should create gaming / gfx repo
noobiedoobiedofunkyHat, oh because the unofficial guide says "add these reposo's" then "do this apt-get command" ... which fails.12:06
mazhas anyone been able to get wmv files to play?  I can't play them in either xmms or realplayer12:06
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Tom_Wmplayer12:06
TraceGreenmaz, play **.wav12:06
yoavI got all the reps enabled, beside two source reps, but still I can't get make-jpkg, and get a package not found, I even added the unofficial hoary extras rep, but nothing12:06
mazi downloaded all the codecs on the ubuntuguide12:06
mazok thanks Tom and Trace12:07
andre80do apt has eclipse ?12:07
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noobiedoobiedoi have 12 sources total12:07
funkyHatnoobiedoobiedo, we don't like the unofficial guide ;) follow the wiki on installing java12:07
noobiedoobiedofunkyHat, thanks12:07
funkyHat!tell noobiedoobiedo about java12:07
helloyousing the fantastic e17, but i can't install eutils without eterm, which can't be installed, any ideas?12:07
noobiedoobiedomaz, try mplayer or xine12:07
mazthanks peeps - just tried 'play' and the command wasn't found12:07
Tom_Wyea xine is a good video tool as well12:07
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andre80test12:08
andre80ping12:08
Tom_Wavifile plays divx movies12:08
andre80.ping andre8012:08
Tom_Wpong12:08
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Uthiniandre80: search it12:08
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mazso does this mean xmms is inherently unable to play wmv files?12:09
Ngmaz: do you have the w32codecs package installed?12:09
yoavabout the make-jpkg, anyone?12:09
helloyohow do i get apt-get to install with an unmet dependancy?12:09
Tom_Wgoogle is your friend............12:09
azolre. Where can I explanation about ununtu "distrivution's". I mean: hoary, hoary-security, hoary-updates, hoary-backports and sections main, restricted, universe, multiverse. Who is who?12:09
mazyes Ng, I installed w32codecs12:09
mazthey are up to date too12:09
thoreauputicSeveas: ping ?12:10
scanwinderwhen i have an msn(havent tried other ones) convo in gaim, the scrollbar wont default to been at the bottom and i have to scroll down every time that i send/get a new message, anyone know of a solution to this problem?12:10
mazextremely happy with ubuntu - it spanks my old Win98 and red hat 912:10
clem_yeatsazol : these are called repositories12:10
helloyohow do i force apt-get to install?12:10
clem_yeats!repositories12:10
ubotu[repositories]  probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:10
Ngmaz: that's a shame, it could be that the stream is encoded with all the very latest WMP things and the w32codecs package is just lagging :/12:10
Tom_Wxmms is for mp3's and audio real well it speaks for its self Real content .. xine or mplayer is a shure bet12:10
mazcan even do video editing... never worked that out on red had nine12:10
mazthat's possible Ng - see what Tom_W just wrote too12:10
Ngyeah12:10
tencowhy is adept over 50 megs big?12:11
helloyohow do i force apt-get to install?12:11
Nghelloyo: generally you really don't want to ;)12:11
tencosorry, false chan...12:11
mazby the way folks, this is my first time in a chatroom, so let me know if I'm breaching the etiquette12:11
maz:)12:11
Tom_Wyour fine12:11
helloyoNg, yeah, i'm just being really impatient playing with e17, eutils wont install because eterm isn't there12:11
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clem_yeatsmaz: careful, this is highly addictive ! :)12:12
Uthinilol @ maz, if you stay that polite you wouldn't breach the etiquette with a barge pole12:12
Nghelloyo: it may be too old, but eterm is in universe (0.9.2)12:12
mazTom_W - Thanks mate - I am now watching my fatman scoop filmclips and bopping like a champ12:12
mazlol thanks clem, I'll be careful12:12
helloyoNg, thanks12:12
clem_yeatsmaz: if you begin to have it in the morning... you known you've gone too far. :)12:12
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mazlol clem - not speaking from experience are ya?12:13
helloyoNg, awesome! i missed those repositories on this box12:13
Nghelloyo: :)12:13
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Tom_Wwell ive always said the beast thig about Linux is the people who use it!12:13
Tom_Wbest12:13
Tom_Wtypo12:13
Uthiniclem_yeats: i sign on too irc as part of my settling into the office routine12:13
helloyohas everyone tried e17? all i can say is... amazing...12:13
clem_yeatsUthini : same here :)12:13
helloyoi haven't seen eye candy this good ever, let along this damn fast12:14
clem_yeatsUthini : a bit of chat between two builds12:14
mazTom_W you're not Tom Waits by any chance?  I'm a great fan of the "Rain Dogs" album12:14
maz;-)12:14
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clem_yeatshelloyo : it looks really nice. Frugalware comes with it preinstalled I think12:14
Uthinilol maz, i found tim willits' ICQ UIN once, needless to say he never spoke to me :)12:15
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mazlol Uthini12:15
Tom_Wsorry im just me12:15
mazwell Tom_W just quit, maybe I blew his cover12:15
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mazoh ok you're back now lol12:15
Uthinilol12:15
Tom_W?12:15
Tom_Wnever left12:16
clem_yeatsTom_W : rename as "me" :) Tom_W is highly misleading :))12:16
mazoh ok... I had "Tom_W has quite (Read error etc...)"12:16
Tom-Wi left on my ubuntu box12:16
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Ngit was just a small network blip :)12:16
mazwho else is in Australia?12:16
clem_yeatsmy sister's there at the moment.12:16
scanwinderwhen i have an msn(havent tried other ones) convo in gaim, the scrollbar wont default to been at the bottom and i have to scroll down every time that i send/get a new message, anyone know of a solution to this problem?12:17
clem_yeatsshe's not connected to the chat though12:17
helloyomaz, me!12:17
Tom_Wim in NC12:17
Tom_Wusa12:17
mazcool helloyo, Canberra here12:17
helloyomaz, sydneysider here12:17
scanwinderim in australia...perth12:17
mazcool clem, where is she in Aust?12:17
mazI'm keen to get to NY, probably next year Tom_W12:17
clem_yeatsmaz: do you also live in Canberra or you just work there ?12:17
Whistlerhow is nvu editor package called?12:17
concept10ahhh...perth12:17
concept10i love perth12:17
mazfrom Perth originally, but now live and work in Canberra12:17
UthiniTom-W: north carolina?12:17
clem_yeatsmaz: at the moment she's in Alice Springs12:17
mazPerth is cool12:17
mazoops I read NY instead of NC lolo12:18
mazlol12:18
clem_yeatsmaz: there's nothing much in Canberra is there ?12:18
Tom_Wwhy not go to Boston to the Linux Trade show there12:18
mazah, never been to Alice12:18
mazcool TomW is that always on?12:18
mazclem - how much does one need?  :)12:18
Tom_WNo its in april 0612:18
andre80how to search using apt-get ?12:18
mazsounds good, I could go then - will have to look into it12:18
clem_yeatsmaz : I like the kind of cemetery in Canberra.. with the fake people standing up... I though that was really cool.12:18
mazandre - start up synaptic12:19
mazlol clem, you just need to find the right "in"12:19
dooglushi all.  is X broken in breezy at the moment?12:19
mazfine pubs, restaurants, lots of motorbike riders, skiing, what more could anyone want?12:19
andre80I need libxvid12:19
noobiedoobiedoi tried what the wiki said for JAVA , that didnt work either12:19
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clem_yeatsmaz : well.. it was interesting.. I staid there for two days.12:20
concept10maz, are you talking about perth?12:20
clem_yeatsno, Canberra12:20
Tom_Whttp://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12BOS06A/12:20
mazCanberra, concept, but Perth is the best of the bunch12:20
dooglusandre80: "libxvidcore4"?12:20
clem_yeatsI'd love to go to Perth, never got the opportunity12:20
maz$400 will get ya there clem - worth every cent12:20
mazvery fine town12:20
scanwinderlol i wanna get out of perth........(never been out of perth)12:20
concept10I was in the US Navy and I have been to 5 different Australian cities, the women love sailors :)12:21
andre80I need to play divx12:21
clem_yeatswell, it's a bit more expensive than that from where I am.. (Ireland)12:21
Tom_Wavifile12:21
mazsome of those sailors are trouble12:21
mazhome you're not one of those concept12:21
concept10maz, true :)12:21
mazlol ok clem, thought you were in Sydney12:21
clem_yeatsI've been there, but that was holidays12:21
Tom_Wandre80 try avifile it plays divx movies well also mplayer and xine12:21
dooglusis X broken in breezy at the moment?12:21
clem_yeatsI'm in Galway/Athlone in Ireland12:22
concept10maz, Is it true the Aussie guys dont like the sailors? (I never had trouble myself)12:22
mazsome of the sailors start fights12:22
Tom_Wwhy the americans try to take there wemon?12:22
mazit depends which women.  if her boyfriend is there of course trouble will ensue12:23
clem_yeatsI thought the aboriginal in general took really badly alcohol..12:23
concept10Tom_W, thats not true12:23
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Tom_Wi just ask why?12:23
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Ngshould this conversation not be in #sailors? ;)12:23
Tom_Wwhy dont they like salors then?12:23
clem_yeatsthey tend to become aggresive when drunk, while they're usually quite peaceful during the day.12:23
concept10What do you mean, *take*12:23
clem_yeatsof course this is a generality.12:23
Uthinimaz: how many south african ppl have you met?12:23
mazlmao ... i'd better withdraw from this discussion12:23
maza fair few Uthini, there's a lot in Perth12:24
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concept10j/k12:24
clem_yeatsoh my !!12:24
dooglusthis should be in #ubuntu-offtopic probably12:24
Tom_Wflame war12:24
scanwinder..we dont have flamethrowers in perth...............12:24
Uthinimaz: i'm south african, half our population is all over the world :P12:25
Tom_Wlol12:25
mazlol12:25
andre80where can I get avifile ?12:25
mazsorry to cause trouble in here peeps12:25
mazi'm off to get a beer12:25
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mazloll12:25
Uthiniandre80: what?12:25
Tom-Wsynaptic12:26
andre80where can I get avifile ?12:26
Tom-Wits in the universe packages12:26
bimberi!find avifile12:26
clem_yeatsUthini : same story here with the Irish :)12:26
Uthini:) clem_yeats12:26
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bimberi!+find avifile12:26
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'avifile' (10 shown): avifile-divx-plugin ;; avifile-mad-plugin ;; avifile-mjpeg-plugin ;; avifile-player ;; avifile-utils ;; avifile-vorbis-plugin ;; avifile-win32-plugin ;; avifile-xvid-plugin ;; libavifile-0.7-dev ;; libavifile-0.7c102.12:26
Uthiniandre80: avifile.sourceforge.net12:26
dooglusis there a script to start GNOME if gdm isn't running?12:26
Tom-Wapplications/system tools/ add remove programs/ advanced12:27
bimberiandre80: avifile-player perhaps12:27
clem_yeatsdooglus : can't relaunch gdm ?12:27
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dooglusclem_yeats: if I run GNOME from gdm it hangs as soon as I log in.12:27
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Tom-Wit is a fine program ive used it since version .1012:28
dooglusclem_yeats: all I see is a brown screen.  no wallpaper, just dark brown12:28
andre80I open synaptic and I don't see avifile12:28
Tom-Wsearch12:28
clem_yeatsdooglus : try startx12:29
andre80can I use apt-get ?12:29
dooglusclem_yeats: "startx startkde" runs KDE.  I'm wondering which script to tell startx to run for GNOME12:29
Ngavifile is in universe and split into several packages (e.g. avifile-player)12:29
dooglusclem_yeats: if I just run "startx" on its own I get 3 xterms and no window manager.12:29
Ngand yes you can use apt-get to install it12:29
andre80I search for avi and finds nothing, it looks like I have to build from source, no ?12:29
Tom-Wedit /etc/apt/sources.list and unselect universe12:29
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clem_yeatsdooglus: you have to set your default wm in one of the X conf file... I just don't know which one :)12:30
Tom-Wand then search and it will be there12:30
onkarshindeWhat is purpose of backports repository?12:30
Ngandre80: you need to enable the universe repository, then do "apt-cache search avifile", you should see about 11 matches12:30
concept10im installing movable type, what cgi-bin directory should I use?12:30
clem_yeatsdooglus : look on google for "default wm" "startx"12:30
Ngonkarshinde: for people who are too impatient to wait for the next release of ubuntu12:30
Ngonkarshinde: it includes newer versions of a few programs than are found in the base hoary repositories12:31
onkarshindeNg: Are these backports for new features in apps or just bug fixes?12:31
Tom-Wi see 7 you dont need the dev stuff12:31
onkarshindeNg: Ok got the answer12:31
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dooglusclem_yeats: I can't really google - I can't run GNOME.12:31
clem_yeatsdooglus : you can use links12:31
scanwinderwhen i have an msn(havent tried other ones) convo in gaim, the scrollbar wont default to been at the bottom and i have to scroll down every time that i send/get a new message, anyone know of a solution to this problem?12:31
clem_yeatsdooglus : or lynx, or links212:31
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twibblerdoes anybody know which package contains the qmake command ?.12:32
onkarshindeWhat is 'reboot=b' kernel boot option for? I am having trouble rebooting my laptop.12:32
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andre80how to enable the universe repository ?12:32
Uthiniandre80: !repositories12:33
Tom-W edit /etc/apt/sources.list and unselect universe12:33
onkarshindeandre80: Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment universe12:33
Tom-Wremove the #12:33
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cuscohello!12:33
onkarshindeWhat is 'reboot=b' kernel boot option for? I am having trouble rebooting my laptop.12:33
Uthinihi cusco12:33
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andre80!repositories12:33
ubotu[repositories]  probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:33
cuscoI have a small problem!!! ubuntuguide has my ip blocked or something12:33
deFryskcusco, its a bad resource anyway12:34
Uthinicusco: mite i advise against forum hacking :P12:34
bimberitwibbler: qt3-dev-tools (tip: http://packages.ubuntu.com provides a package search facility :) )12:34
twibblerthank you bimberi...12:34
cuscololol! oki dooki then12:34
bimberitwibbler: yvw :)12:34
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Thunder000which kernel does breezy have ?  can anyone do uname -a plz ?12:36
andre80thank you12:36
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ilba7r!info gaim-vv12:37
onkarshinde!breezy kernel12:37
ubotuonkarshinde: Syntax error in line 112:37
onkarshinde!breezy12:37
ubotuI guess breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/12:37
ilba7rwill gaim-vv be included in breezy?12:37
Ngilba7r: you can search breezy packages on packages.ubuntu.com12:37
mazrandom question:  why do I need to be sudo to run "pon dsl-provider"?12:37
ilba7rthanx ng12:38
onkarshindeilba7r: Supposed to be in universe12:38
Ngand it's in feature freeze now, so that list shouldn't change, although it might not be completely up to date, I'm not sure where it feeds from12:38
mazand more importantly, how can I set it up so that's not needed?12:38
ilba7rthanx onkarshinde12:38
ilba7ryou are the best guys take care12:38
onkarshindeilba7r: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates12:39
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Ngmaz: what does it say if you run it without sudo?12:40
onkarshindeNg: Can you please tell me what is reboot=b kernel boot option for?12:40
_adamAnyone got any links to where I can get some ge neral linux help, primarily with compiling and installing files?12:40
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mazhmm i'll check that next time I log off Ng - dont' want to do it now as I'm half way through downloading a Tom Waits interview12:41
Ngonkarshinde: according to a quick google search it means the kernel will use a different method of rebooting the computer to the standard method (which is to use the keyboard controller)12:41
Thunder000which kernel version does breezy colony 3 have ??12:41
Ngmaz: fair enough. I don't use it, but from what I can see it should allow any user in the "dip" group to initiate a connection12:42
phenadam: did you try the linux documentation project?  http://www.tldp.org/12:42
webtoe_adam: try wiki.linuxquestions.org or just www.linuxquestions.org they have guides12:42
mazdip hey, thanks I'll give that a try12:42
NgThunder000: looks like 2.6.1212:42
Uthinionkarshinde: its if there is a kernel hang12:42
_adamAlright, thanks12:42
NoobieDoobieDothx all12:42
mazalthough a "groups" reveals that I have the dips group12:42
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Ngmaz: yeah, you should be by default12:43
Uthinionkarshinde: did ur last shutdown fail?12:43
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Ngmaz: well make a note of the error for when you next come online and ask here, hopefully someone will help :)12:43
Thunder000how do i upgrade my kernel via apt-get ? i did dist-upgrade but my kernel is the same12:43
onkarshindeNg: Uthini: I am having trouble rebooting my HP laptop. No problem in shutdown. And I see this option as default boot option to kernel.12:44
mazcool Ng that's what I'll do12:44
Uthinimaz: if u ever feel like having random talk then join #randomtalk :P12:44
mazlol cool Uthini12:44
Uthinionkarshinde: what problems do u have?12:44
onkarshindeThunder000: Have you enabled security repository?12:44
mazUthini where can I get a list of the available chatrooms?12:44
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Uthinimaz type /list12:44
Uthinibe warned12:45
Uthinithers alot12:45
onkarshindeUthini: When I say reboot, it sends tem signal to all processes. Finalyy it sys rebooting and just hangs.12:45
Thunder000onkarshinde: ye si did12:45
mazuh-oh, just typed it... is it about to explode??12:45
clem_yeatsmaz: get away from the screen !! :)12:45
Uthinionkarshinde: that would count as a fail dont u think, the reboot=b is to recover from that12:45
clem_yeatsmaz: what kind of channel are you looking for ?12:45
Thunder000onkarshinde: security repository is enabled12:45
onkarshindeThunder000: If you want to install latest kernel probably you will have to compile it yourself. Through repositories you will get only bugfixes and security fixes12:46
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Thunder000from hoary to breezy i have to compile the kernel ?12:46
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mazclem:  channels about tom waits, harleys, athletics, and long walks down the beach lol12:46
onkarshindeUthini: Right. But I haven't tried removing that option. So I am not sure that option itself is causing trouble. I have custom version of HP laptop.12:47
clem_yeatsmaz... oh.. :)12:47
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onkarshindeThunder000: Sorry. I thought you were talking about just normal upgrade. In any case breezy is not stable yet. Why do you want to use it?12:47
clem_yeatsmaz : the freenode network is full of geeks and most of its channels are computer related..12:47
mazcool clem, I'll give it a look12:48
Uthinionkarshinde: i doubt that option is causing the issue here, but try disabling none the less, actually don't take my advice lol.12:48
clem_yeatsmaz : to chat about "life" outside the computer room try quakenet, dalnet, efnet, ircnet etc etc12:48
onkarshindeUthini: Ok. I will listen to you about not taking your advice. ;-)12:48
Uthinimaz: goto blabber.net12:48
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clem_yeatsmaz : these are IRC networks, not channels.12:48
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mazah ok, I get it... so now we're on the freenode IRC network?12:49
bimberimaz: http://irc.netsplit.de/  <- sortofa irc index site12:50
Uthinigood point yeats12:50
clem_yeatsyes12:50
mazok12:50
Uthiniyup maz12:50
clem_yeatsUthini : you can call me clem12:50
Uthiniaight clem12:50
clem_yeats:)12:50
clem_yeatswithin a network there are servers.. which act like mirrors. When you connect to a server you get connected to the network.. and then you can join channels.12:51
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mazThanks bimberi - are you from Canberra??12:51
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clem_yeatsthere is a good website to find good IRC channels whatever network they're on : http://www.searchirc.com12:52
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mazah, i see12:52
bimberimaz: aye12:52
mazcool bimberi... though so12:52
mazcheers for the link clem12:52
Uthinirite12:52
clem_yeatsno problem12:52
Uthinihome time12:52
krashedi have ubuntu installed on vmware and when i install vmware-tools, i get an error12:53
bimberimaz: from the nick i guess :)12:53
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krashedWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running12:53
krashedkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 12:53
krashedThe path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.12:53
mazlol yeah12:53
Uthiniruns*12:53
maz<------------ hiker12:53
krashedany advise as to what needs to be done12:53
Tom-Wwoo hoo.. ive got 50 apt mirrors now.. every package known to man :) not to kludge the system into a stand still12:53
phenmaybe you should install them?12:53
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krashedhow?12:53
bimberi<---- former hiker (waiting for kids to get old enough)12:53
phensynaptics12:54
clem_yeatsno ... Krashed..12:54
mazah ok... well i guess you could take them on daywalks!12:54
phensearch for linux12:54
Sojekguys, looking for program for quick switching keyboard layout eg. from franch to spanish12:54
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Seveaskrashed, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:54
clem_yeatsKrashed : you need to install the linux source headers and to make a symbolic link from linux to the headers directory12:54
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bimberimaz: yes, quite often12:55
krashedthanks :)12:55
fluffybunny_are there any good plugins available for BMP and where would I find them?12:55
clem_yeatsfor BMP ??12:55
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Sojekbeep media player12:56
clem_yeatsoh ok..12:56
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Seveasfluffybunny_, the beep media player homepage lists a few12:58
Seveasthey are however not in .deb format and have to be compiled12:59
Bjerrkcould anyone drop me a link to a working script for mounting all my disks? :)12:59
fluffybunny_Seveas: ah... i think not then :D12:59
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phenfluffy: compiling them isn't a problem12:59
phenyou simply have to install build-essential01:00
phenand some other things.01:00
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SeveasBjerrk, not for all disks but for fat/ntfs/hfs+: ubutnulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab01:00
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Tom-W*LOL* BMP : This release is actually really working now, as in it starts up and runs and doesn't crash (well, eventually still but not as bad as 0.6 ;).01:00
BjerrkSeveas: fine :)01:00
fluffybunny_phen: for a noob? is build-essential in the package manager :) (exWindows user)01:00
phenit is01:00
phenquery me if you need help. just installed my bmp yesterday :)01:00
onkarshindeI just installed Ubuntu custom version on HP laptop that is not listed. How do I intimate it to Ubuntu developers what works and what not?01:01
fluffybunny_do you have the bmp home page url handy?01:01
Seveasfluffybunny_, for a noob it might be a tad difficult, but not too much01:01
Seveasinstall the build-essential and beep-media-player-dev packages01:01
BjerrkSeveas: i'm a total n00b :D... Is there any such script? And if there is; could you drop me a link?01:01
Seveasand read all README files :)01:01
phengoogle: http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/BMP_Homepage01:01
SeveasBjerrk, I just gave you the link :)01:01
Bjerrkoh01:02
Bjerrksry...01:02
Seveasfluffybunny_, beepmp.sourceforge.net01:02
BjerrkSeveas: does not work :(01:02
fluffybunny_Seveas: as long as there are readme's that are understandable, i could probably muddle through - its the dependency thing that gets me bogged down sometimes01:02
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phenfluffy: look around your irc client. there should be a privat chat window somewhere :)01:03
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SeveasBjerrk, what's the problem01:04
Seveasfluffybunny_, installing beep-media-player-dev overcomes almost all these problems01:04
Seveasif you have a problem, just let us know :)01:04
Bjerrkno such page. ubuntulinux.nl aparently doesn't exist...01:04
mazdid anyone ever try using that xsublim package?  this was around a few years ago01:04
SeveasBjerrk, ehm, I own that page. it exists.01:05
Tom-Wif i search synaptic it shows version .9.7 and this page shows .6 so i think one is bmp and one is bmpx ......01:05
Bjerrki'm unable to connect, though my network is fine.01:05
Tom-Wthere not the same i take it :))01:05
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SeveasBjerrk, try connecting to www.kaarsemaker.net01:05
Seveasdoes that work?01:05
webtoei can connect to the server fine.....01:05
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BjerrkSeveas: it does01:06
_adamI was reading a guide to installing tar.gz files and it said to save to usr/local/src01:06
_adamhowever, for some reason i am unable to save to that directory01:06
Akbaryeah his repository is working..01:06
Bjerrk_adam: you're not root?01:06
_adamI am the only account01:06
Bjerrkbut not root?01:06
SeveasBjerrk, that's the same server as ubuntulinux.nl so check whether you spelled the name correctly01:07
_adamHow do I switch?01:07
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Bjerrkyou have to enable the root account first01:07
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Seveasdo NOT enable the root password01:07
Seveasyou do not need it01:07
Akbaruse sudo01:08
Seveasjust use sudo for commands that need elevated privileges01:08
BjerrkSeveas: i'd prefer root anytime01:08
_adamWell...I don't prefer anything01:08
_adamSo which one then01:08
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Bjerrkand another thing, Seveas. The link you posted was ubutnulinux.nl. No wonder i couldn't connect.01:09
SeveasBjerrk, ghe, ok01:09
_adamHow do I enable root password?01:09
Bjerrknp :D01:09
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Bjerrk_adam: in user manager01:09
Seveas_adam, seriously don't01:09
Akbarlol01:10
_adamSecurity risk?01:10
Seveasit's bad security practice01:10
BjerrkSeveas: not at all'01:10
_adamThen how do I access sudo?01:10
Akbarnot if you know what you're doing :)01:10
Bjerrk- the '01:10
Seveas_adam, like: sudo mkdir /usr/local/src/foo01:10
Bjerrk_adam: you just type sudo <command>01:10
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Bjerrkand the the command01:10
Bjerrk*then01:11
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_adamalright thanks01:11
Bjerrknp.01:11
_adamAny of you two have AIM?01:11
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Bjerrkno... I prefer MSN :D01:11
_adamWhat's your msn name?01:11
Bjerrkbjerrk@hotmail.com01:12
cyprinuswith which options i should mount NTFS partition to make "cyprinus" user able to have access to it?01:12
Bjerrkjust add me01:12
Bjerrk:D01:12
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dbzdeathhey i'm having trouble installing vmware workstation on ubuntu amd64 during the configuring of it i get sh: /usr/bin/vmware-ping: No such file or directory trying to execute some of the other binaries via ./filename creates the same result although the files do exist can someone please help me?01:12
_adamalright, see ya01:12
Akbardemon:P01:12
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_adamoops, what was your name again01:12
Bjerrkbjerrk@hotmail.com01:12
cyprinus?01:12
Bjerrki'll be online in a min.01:12
_adamthanks01:12
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xmachineei guys, need help. my X freezes after gdm login.01:13
xmachineim using x.org01:13
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Seveascyprinus, uid=cyprinus,gid=cyprinus01:13
Seveaslogin in text mode, remove ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority and clean out /tmp01:13
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Seveas^-- xmachine01:14
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Kromonoshi01:15
Kromonoshow can I install XFree86?01:15
Seveasdon't01:15
Kromonoswhy?01:15
Seveasit's unsupported, will not be upgraded and will soon be removed01:15
bimberiubuntu uses xorg01:16
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Kromonosyes, ok, but an i810 Graphics card just made prolems with xorg01:16
xmachineSeveas, thanks. i'll try that one01:17
tahorgKromonos: it should'nt01:17
Kromonosbut it is01:17
Seveasthen solve that problem instead of trying obsolete unsupported software...01:17
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mazOK folks is ".asf" a fair dinkum movie format?  or is it a trojan on limewire?  I've never heard of them is all...01:18
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nox_!ati drivers01:18
ubotunox_: I give up, what is it?01:18
nox_!ati01:18
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:18
dbzdeathmaz: real format01:18
KromonosAt the moment I use VESA with an Intel Brookdale graphics card, because if I use i810, my keyboard is just working half the time and the maximum resolution is 640x48001:18
Seveas.asf is avi streaming format or something loke that01:18
Tom-WUbuntu is stooge proof.. geez compaired to Gentoo installing packages is a breeze01:18
Kromonosbut with VESA, X get black, when I close the lit, logoff user or change to tty01:18
SeveasTom-W, but on gentoo you wait for KDE to compile for 18 hours and it's 0.001% faster !!!!1111!!!1101:19
Seveas</sarcasm>01:19
mazdbzdeath:  cheers mate01:19
mazSeveas: cool01:19
Tom-Wyea that .0000000000000001 % is why im faster than you..01:19
Seveas:)01:19
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Kromonos0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)01:19
deFryskSeveas, 0.01101:19
Tom-Wive got Gentoo on my laptop and ubuntu on this desktop01:19
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dbzdeathcan anyone here help me please?01:20
Tom-Wask away01:20
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dbzdeath[19:12]  <dbzdeath> hey i'm having trouble installing vmware workstation on ubuntu amd64 during the configuring of it i get sh: /usr/bin/vmware-ping: No such file or directory trying to execute some of the other binaries via ./filename creates the same result although the files do exist can someone please help me?01:21
Tom-Wwhy ask for help just ask and save the key stroaks01:21
dbzdeathbecause i already did ask :/01:21
Tom-Wi see01:22
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Tom-Woh was reading and didnt notice that01:22
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KromonosAt the moment I use VESA with an Intel Brookdale graphics card, because if I use i810, my keyboard is just working half the time and the maximum resolution is 640x480 but with VESA, X get black, when I close the lit, logoff user or change to tty. lspci output: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Whats wrong?01:22
Tom-Wvmware to run a win program i take it01:22
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Tom-Wwhy not just use Wine ?01:23
dbzdeathfunny that i have the vmware-any-any-update93.tar.gz and the binary in that has the same problem... but it has the source file... so i recompiled it and that works... but of course the other vmware files are closed source :/01:23
dbzdeathTom-W: i use vmware for a lot more than windows :P01:23
Tom-W:-)01:23
dbzdeathubuntu should have a vmware package like gentoo :(01:23
Tom-W Do not you use devfs, by any chance?01:24
Akbarbut vmware has modules to compile01:24
dbzdeathTom-W: i'm not sure... ubuntu uses udev by default? doesn't it?01:24
Akbarright01:25
dbzdeaththen i am using udev01:25
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Tom-Whumm google is your friend.....01:26
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Tom-Wsorry i dont use vmware so im not going to be any help01:27
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slask3nAre there really no good apps that makes 1:1 copies including the subchannels of copy protected windows games for linux?? I need something similar to CloneCD just for linux... Or doesn't it exist?01:27
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dbzdeathhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1634 have a look at that... weird...01:27
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dbzdeathgot me puzzled :/01:28
Seveasslask3n, linux is not about doing illegal things01:28
Seveasso such programs are less likely to be found.01:28
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slask3nSeveas: Whats illegal of making an backup of my games??01:28
_danieli'm having trouble with using a touchpad with synaptics01:29
fanopnaicslask3n: doesn't look good. just bug some friend who still has windows :)01:30
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dbzdeathslask3n: try nerolinux ...nero does basically all it does01:30
Kromonoshmpf01:30
slask3nSeveas: In my country (Norway) it's perfectly legal to make an backup-copy of a game/movie/CD that I already have bought!01:30
Seveasin mine too01:30
dbzdeathi don't think it is in my country (Australia) ... but i'm not sure01:30
fanopnaicusually it depends on whether you have to circumvent a copy protection or not.01:31
deFryskdbzdeath, nothing is sure in australia mate01:31
digis_i think everywhere is legal, to have a backup copy, of legal product01:31
Ngdigis_: not if you have to circimvent a protection technology, that is becoming more and more illegal around the world after DMCA01:31
dbzdeathdeFrysk: haha yeah ... it sucks here01:31
Ng"circumvent" rather01:32
slask3ndbzdeath: nero doesn't make a 1:1 copy, it bypasses the copy protection and don't copy the copy protection as well..01:32
KromonosAt the moment I use VESA with an Intel Brookdale graphics card, because if I use i810, my keyboard is just working half the time and the maximum resolution is 640x480 but with VESA, X get black, when I close the lit, logoff user or change to tty. lspci output: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Whats wrong?01:32
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SeveasKromonos: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.01:32
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Kromonosk01:32
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dbzdeathslashk3n i have no idea if this will work... but i think cat /dev/cdromdevice > file.iso works on linux... then maybe try burning it01:33
webtoecat won't work but dd will01:33
dbzdeathyeah there you go01:33
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webtoedd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso01:33
webtoei use that to make copy's of dvd's01:34
dbzdeathgive that a shot slask3n01:34
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Nafallohi! anyone know how to bring a SB Audigity 2 NX (USB) to life in hoary?01:35
dbzdeathafaik that you create a copy of everything.. including the protection01:35
dbzdeath*should01:35
VincentMXmy x won't work. i've done a server install so i can install windowmaker instead of gnome or kde, but now x won't start. even after i have installed it01:36
VincentMXXIO:  fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"01:36
VincentMXafter 0 requests (0 unknown proccesed) with 0 events remaining01:36
dbzdeathhow are you starting it VincentMX ?01:36
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VincentMXstartx01:37
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dbzdeathyou have xserver-xorg installed? right?01:37
mazdo people here use gaim or amsn?  does gaim work better?01:37
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VincentMXyes i have01:37
slask3nwebtoe: does dd work on encrypted DVD's?01:37
dbzdeathmaz: amsn here... for msn only i'd use amsn ... basically because it did? have better support01:37
deFryskmaz, try both ans see wich you prefer01:38
Akbaramsn is ugly as hell :P01:38
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fanopnaicdbzdeath: It's worth a try, but I wouldn't count on it (the backupping solution)01:38
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Nafalloanyone have an answer to my question above?01:38
deFrysk</messengerwars>01:38
Masterkongheh it's really me who's asking the audigity question... jabber?01:39
Masterkongoops01:39
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mazdbzdeath: thanks01:40
mazdefrysk: thanks too i guess that's the best way lol01:40
Kromonoshmpf01:41
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mazthat is quite true akbar lol01:41
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mazit's only up to version 0 though lol01:42
NafalloMasterkong: have you searched the forum btw? :-)01:42
dbzdeath.... is fedora core up to version 9?01:42
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Akbargaim works fine .. only no voice/cam support01:42
maznow another question:  I've tried working out gnucash but it seems more complicated than I need for personal budgets.  Anyone use a good personal budget application?01:42
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Masterkongwhat forum?01:42
mazakbar: i'm not bothered about voice/cam... I've got skype for voice, and I'd rather not be on cam when at the computer lol01:43
NafalloMasterkong: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/01:43
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mazany aussies - have you got JJJ coming through internet radio?01:44
deFryskdbzdeath, who cares it sucks anyway01:44
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dbzdeathdeFrysk: i know.. but i'm trying to find a mirror to the vmware rpm(i need a local copy.... i'm capped) ... maybe the tar.gz is screwed01:45
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Ngmaz: there are other budget apps, search the bunty repositories for "finance" or "financial" or something like that01:45
deFryskdbzdeath, DUNNO BOUT THAT STUFF01:45
deFryskoops caps sorry01:45
pmfpWhenever I press the open button the CD/DVD, it closes immediately after opening, automatically. Same thing if I use the "Eject" function from within Ubuntu... what's wrong?01:46
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mazNg:  bunty??  What is that?01:46
Ngmaz: I mean ubuntu, sorry01:46
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Ngmy friends all started calling it bunty ;)01:46
osfameronbunty :-)01:47
robertsmaz, gnucash works for me.  Used to use a simpler perl-based program called cbb.  Years ago though.01:47
mazlol ok01:48
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mazOK I might search for finance in the forums then01:48
MyQe7hello01:48
MyQe7how can i upgrade to breezy?01:48
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milanrespect01:48
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dbzdeathMyQe7: set your /etc/apt/sources.list to breezy and do apt-get dist-upgrade ... i believe01:49
milanwho use Maya on Ubuntu???01:49
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MyQe7so all i need is to change hoary to breezy?01:49
mazroberts: i'll check out cbb then01:50
dbzdeathyeah and run apt-get dist-upgrade ... least it is that simple on debian...01:50
robertsmaz, good luck.01:50
MyQe7thanks dbzdeath01:50
dbzdeathhttp://linus.yhspatriot.net/cs/docs/ubuntu_howto/UpgradingtoBreezy01:50
dbzdeathpretty sure thats the same thing though01:51
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mazI've now left windows for good... ubuntu does everything my Win98 did and a hell of a lot more01:51
mazand there's better support when things do go wrong01:51
mazand it's free lol01:51
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Kromonosyes, and it has problemz01:52
dbzdeathhahaha one problem with ubuntu i've found is the lack of packages... at least on amd6401:52
robertsAt least it doesn't have problem$01:52
Kromonosyes, and whats about my i810 problem?01:52
digis_after upgrading hoary->breezy, X stopped working, then I installet fresh hoary, and everything worked perfectly01:52
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mazsee i'm only on 386 architecture01:53
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digis_X error dialog just freezed, and I nothing could, do, and starting X manuall, doesnt hellped, It said something about missing fixed fonts, and didn't boot01:53
dbzdeathdigis_: install a fresh breezy?01:54
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Gadjetanyone had any problems with upgrading the kernel to 2.6.12-6 on hp lpr1000 (uses megaraid scsi) ? (i just get the generic error of not being able to pivot_root, 'no such file or directory dev/console')01:54
mazany Aussies (or anyone else lol) listen to JJJ radio through ubuntu?  If so?01:54
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digis_dbzdeath, yes, I installed fresh breezy, and everything works like a charm, few days ago I had problems with gnome-panel, which kept craching01:54
dbzdeathdigis_: mmm... and you want help with??01:55
PoromiesYES! SUCCES! (sorry for the caps :<) I got OS-flash working on amd64-hoary \o/01:55
Mariuxhow does apt-get handle multiple versions? can i choose which version i want (say two differente respositories has two differente versions)01:55
Poromieswithout chroot shiaz01:55
dbzdeathPoromies: OS-flash?01:55
digis_dbzdeath, I had no access upgrading hoary to breezy :/01:55
Akbarthat's odd you should be able to upgrade from hoary to breezy without problems right like in Debian?01:55
digis_*success01:55
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Mariuxthat is, multiple versions of the same program?01:55
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dbzdeathAkbar: i would think so... gotta love debian01:55
Poromiesyea, opensource-flash, seems to work fine01:55
dbzdeathdigis_: access?01:55
digis_*success01:56
digis_:)01:56
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digis_sorry01:56
dbzdeathohhh01:56
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chicken-manHello every one :-P01:56
dbzdeathbeats me... did you do fresh hoary to breezy? probably smarter to start with a server hoary install01:56
Poromiesatleast im surfing on the web now with some flash-sites, and it shows them, no idea about sound&browser-games support though01:56
Akbarif not would that mean I had to doe a fresh reinstall every six months? :S01:56
digis_dbzdeath, no, I used daily breezy install cd01:56
robertsMariux, apt lets you specify versions in /etc/apt/preferences.01:57
digis_cause, I crewed up hoary, wiorh upgrading to breezy :/01:57
dbzdeathAkbar: haha oh know... well it should only be a problem for breezy because it isn't classed stable yet01:57
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digis_*screwed01:57
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dbzdeath*no01:57
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Akbarohh01:57
Gadjetanyone had any problems with upgrading the kernel to 2.6.12-6-smp on a hp lpr1000 (uses megaraid scsi) ?01:58
Akbarwell I was running Debian stable before01:58
Kromonoswhen I try to install xserver-xfree86, the system wants to remove ubuntu-desktop01:58
Akbarbroken packages at the moment :P01:58
Kromonoscould I remove it, without having problemz?01:58
Akbar*stable/unstable01:58
NgKromonos: why do you want xfree86?01:58
Ngubuntu uses xorg by default01:58
dbzdeathKromonos: as was said ... shouldn't be installing it... nor should xfree86 be any help because xfree86 and xorg are basically the same01:58
digis_Kromonos, ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package01:59
digis_U can remove it, but xorg is much better then xfree8601:59
Kromonos(13:24:25) Kromonos: At the moment I use VESA with an Intel Brookdale graphics card, because if I use i810, my keyboard is just working half the time and the maximum resolution is 640x480 but with VESA, X get black, when I close the lit, logoff user or change to tty. lspci output: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Whats wrong?  <-- becuase of this ng01:59
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Akbarjust edit your xorg.conf02:00
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NgKromonos: ok, well as dbzdeath says, they're the same02:00
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kemikdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, perhaps ?02:01
Kromonoskemik: I made this .... 24 times02:01
kemikouch02:01
Kromonosnothin happens, just the same shit02:01
pirastThe text in xmms and gpmplayer is very fat. Is there a workaround or a bug report?02:01
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Seveasl02:01
Akbartext?02:01
Akbaryou mean fonts?02:02
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dbzdeathhas anyone here actually successfully debootstrapped ubuntu?02:02
digis_pirast, u should try configing gtk1 fonts, but better use beep-media-player and vlc or totem02:02
pirastakbar: yes, I mean the fonts02:02
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Akbarthose are gtk1 fonts02:02
digis_U can change fonts in .gtkrc02:02
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pirastHow to change gtk1 fonts?02:03
Akbarwhat you should do is try to configure your gtk1 fonts through ~/.gtkrc or a app called 'switch'02:03
Akbar:P02:03
pirastok02:03
pirastthx02:03
Akbargtk-theme-switch - GTK+ theme switching utility02:03
dooglusI'm running KDE.  Whenever I try to start a terminal window, I see "KDE seems to be already running on this display" and then the terminal window closes itself.  WTF?02:04
twibblerhelp please ... with rt2400 wireless card ..02:04
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Zealot^quick question: why can't totem play any files at all? mp3, mpg, etc. --- it says i need the plugins02:06
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Seveas!tell Zealot^ about restricted02:06
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pirast!tell pirast about restricted02:07
pirastjust a test :-)02:07
dbzdeath!tell dbzdeath about restricted02:07
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dbzdeathha cool02:07
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pirastaaahhh nice02:07
Seveas!play02:07
ubotuAll work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg02:07
Zealot^thanks Seveas, i'm reading now02:07
dbzdeathhaha!02:07
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pirastlol02:08
chezhey, is there an easy way to install the java plugin for firefox?02:08
Akbar:P02:08
ubuntuguyanyone: how does the release of debian "sarge" affect ubuntu?02:08
pirastnice, a chatbot02:08
Seveasubuntuguy, not too much, why?02:08
aleksichez: ubuntuguide.org tells you how02:08
dbzdeathubuntuguy: ... it doesn't?02:08
_nereoschez:  $ apt-cache show java-package02:08
Seveasububtuguide is bad...02:08
Akbaruse http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ :P02:09
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Seveaschez, read wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and specifically the text in bold at the top02:09
chezubuntu guides command don't work for that02:09
Seveasand follow that link02:09
pirast!tell nvidia02:09
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Seveaspirast, don't play with it02:09
pirastok :-)02:10
ubuntuguyso ubuntu doesn't take very much from debian anymore?02:10
LordBurritoG'day all.  Is it my imagination, or does "ifup" not behave as advertised?  It appears to be bringing up interfaces not listed in the "auto" stanza?02:10
dbzdeathbloody hell vmware needs ia32-libs ... i didn't know02:10
VincentMXwhy don't ubuntu have netinstall like debian? it would make downloading images faster.02:10
Seveasubuntuguy, au contraire02:10
SeveasVincentMX, it has...02:10
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VincentMXok02:10
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ubuntuguyseveas: explain?02:10
bimberi!debian02:11
Seveasubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship02:11
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/02:11
chez_nereos, Package: java-package Version: 0.23~5.04ubp1 Priority: optional Section: contrib/misc02:11
ubuntuguyso how can the release of sarge not have much of an impact on ubuntu?02:11
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Seveaschez, disable backports...02:12
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dbzdeathdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_0.5ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib32/libGL.so.1', which is also in package nvidia-glx does anyone know why i get that error?02:12
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VincentMXhi02:13
chezSeveas, what then?02:13
dbzdeathubuntuguy: because sarge has been around a long time before it was "released"02:13
bimberiubuntuguy: what impact do you feel it should have?02:13
kentI have a python-script that tries to run #!/bin/env python,  but it complains about lack of /bin/env.  Which package is it in?02:14
ubuntuguydbzdeath: ahh... ok now I understand. thanks02:14
_nereoschez:  apt-get update ;-)02:14
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kentsorry, found it. It was in /usr/bin/env02:14
dbzdeaththat and debian is quite different from ubuntu... for example ubuntu has a amd64 release thats marked stable... debian doesn't02:14
dooglusI'm running KDE.  Whenever I try to start a terminal window, I see "KDE seems to be already running on this display" and then the terminal window closes itself.  WTF?02:15
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chez_nereos, what now?02:17
dbzdeathum... why is there a package glibc-doc when there is no glibc pacakge..02:18
_nereoschez:  Try to install the package via apt-get / synaptic02:18
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chez_nereos, nope still can't find package02:19
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Seveasdbzdeath, libc602:20
dbzdeathSeveas: sure its the same thing?02:21
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digis_is there any way to install software with synaptic, just using options from shell?02:21
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Seveasdbzdeath, 100%02:23
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Zealot^Seveas: i installed the gstreamer plugins using synaptic; they were downloaded successfully. when i try to open a .mdw file i get the same error. any thoughts?02:24
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Zealot^Seveas: the error is "the stream is of a different type than handled by this element"02:25
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Kromonoswhen xorg and xfree86 are the same, why upgrading to xorg?02:25
dbzdeath.... i have no idea what i did but vmware seems to magically be working properly... at least sofar02:25
manu_ hello.. i just installed ubuntu on a pc pentium 3, but he didn t recognize my network card.. what can i do ???02:25
dbzdeath*sp far02:25
dbzdeath*so far02:25
dbzdeathstupid typing02:25
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manu_ i have an other possibility.. i have a sinus 111 wireless usb adapter02:27
sdschulzeHi; are there any plans about including software suspend?02:27
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dbzdeathsdschulze: isn't that something in the kernel?02:27
manu_ but i don t know how to make it work ??02:27
sdschulzedbzdeath: It is.02:27
dbzdeathsdschulze: build your own kernel?02:27
manu_some one knows how to install a usb wireless adapter on my ubuntu02:28
manu_?02:28
sdschulzedbzdeath: I know how to do that, but I was asking whether there are plans about setting that option for the default packages.02:28
dbzdeathah i see02:28
Seveassdschulze, it's been included since hoary02:29
sdschulzeSeveas: It has?  Sorry, I'm upgrading from Warthy right now, and 2.6.8-5 doesn't seem to have it.02:30
sdschulzethanks02:30
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Seveassdschulze, hoary has 2.6.10-502:30
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dbzdeathYAY! vmware is working... but i'll bet that now nvidia-glx is screwed02:31
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manu_some one knows how to install a usb wireless adapter on my ubuntu02:31
manu_?02:31
ZhukovHello there02:31
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Zhukovmanu_, conceptronic?02:31
Seveasinstall linux-686 (intel) linux-k7 (amd) or linux-ppc (mac) to keep your kernel current02:31
manu_no sinus02:31
Zhukovc54ru something?02:31
Zhukov:S02:31
manu_sinus 111 data02:31
Zhukovim afraid i may have bad news for you02:31
Zhukovusb wireless dongles arent very kind with linux02:32
dbzdeathSeveas: is it me or is the latest kernel seem to conflict with nvidia-glx? i had to install 2.6.10-5 to get both to run02:32
manu_yes02:32
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(dbzdeath/#ubuntu) woah02:32
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(manu_/#ubuntu) you have an idear how to detect the network card manualy02:32
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(manu_/#ubuntu) ?02:32
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Zhukov_:D02:33
manu_:)02:33
Albarahamanu_, did you try lspci?02:33
Seveassplit splat02:33
Seveasnetsplit02:33
manu_how ?02:34
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Zhukov_conse02:34
Zhukov_ole02:34
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dbzdeathin case you missed it...02:34
Seveasdbzdeath, the latest kernel IS 2.6.10-502:34
dbzdeath[20:32]  <dbzdeath> Seveas: is it me or is the latest kernel seem to conflict with nvidia-glx? i had to install 2.6.10-5 to get both to run02:34
Albarahait's a command, manu_02:34
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manu_:)02:34
Zhukov_manu_, try lsusb instead (isnt the dongle usb?)02:34
ThePyromaniacdoes anyone know why when i install ubuntu and kubuntu on the same pc, same versions and same settings, ubuntu reads "Buffer I/O Error on device HDC"?02:35
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Zhukov_ThePyromaniac, how did you installed them exactly?02:36
SeveasThePyromaniac, take the cd out before rebooting :)02:36
manu_and after02:36
manu_?02:36
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manu_i have a fritz network card in it02:36
Zhukov_is the dongle displayed?02:36
ThePyromaniacindeed, i take out the cd then it asks me to put it back in02:36
manu_but i couldn t recognize it02:36
manu_so i trying with usb wlan adapter02:36
ThePyromaniacit says it cant install some packages. most get thru ok, but some random ones don't work02:37
Zhukov_ThePyromaniac, try install them without the cd02:37
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ThePyromaniachow can i install without the cd?02:37
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El_Chehi,02:38
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SeveasThePyromaniac, do you have an installed system and are you trying to install extra packages or is this during installation of Ubuntu?02:38
Albarahamanu_, is it a pci network card?02:38
El_CheI just discovered there is a HP iso from ubuntu. Do i need to reinstall my system or are the extra packages and setting apt-gettable02:38
Zhukov_ThePyromaniac, sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list and add a # to the line of the cd (the first i think), then go to ubuntuguide.org and read the part about enabling extra repositories02:39
dbzdeathSeveas: hm... root@Administrator:/opt # apt-cache search linux-image | grep 2.6.11 linux-image-2.6.11-1-amd64-generic - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on x86_64.02:39
Zhukov_sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu02:39
ThePyromaniacit has installed weird, it gives me command line and i can do sudo commands and stuff02:39
Seveasthose are test builds, unsupported and located in universe02:39
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Seveasmoreover: known to be broken02:39
manu_yes02:39
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dbzdeathSeveas: ah!02:39
dbzdeaththanks02:39
manu_pci v2.0 isdn02:40
Albarahawhat do you get with this command:02:40
Albarahadmesg | grep -i ether02:40
ThePyromaniacZhukov_: that i will try, its almost finished installing kubuntu as a test ^^02:40
Seveasdbzdeath, so let me rephrse it: the latest *stable* kernel *package in ubuntu* IS 2.6.10-502:40
Zhukov_ThePyromaniac, kubuntu isnt wort it :D im afraid02:40
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ThePyromaniaci don't like kubuntu, that's why i have this problem :( i started with it then wanted to install ubuntu. spent 3 days trying02:41
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manu_can t regognize it02:41
ThePyromaniaci have just reinstalled kub to see if it was hardware or software02:41
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dbzdeathSeveas: yeah i figured :)02:41
haakonnisn't kubuntu the exact same as ubuntu, just with additional kde packages?02:41
Zhukov_ThePyromaniac, you can just install ubuntu and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu02:42
ThePyromaniacKDE instead of GNOME, changes alot02:42
Zhukov_and then you can chose wich one to use02:42
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haakonnThePyromaniac: from kubuntu, just install ubuntu-desktop, and you'll have an ubuntu system :)02:42
ThePyromaniacso if i have kubuntu installed, i can sudo apt-get install ubuntu? :D02:42
ThePyromaniacyay02:42
john_help02:42
Zhukov_Damn, im i the only one with problems with the backports?02:42
ThePyromaniacthanks guys, hope this works02:42
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john_can someone tell where to how to download02:44
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Ngjohn_: what are you trying to download?02:44
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MezZhukov_, whats your problem?02:44
john_video player02:45
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Ngjohn_: could you give a little more detail? like, what you're trying to do?02:45
Ngbut ubuntu does include a video player (totem)02:46
webtoejohn_: like what sort of video file you want to play02:46
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john_Yes I want to first learn how to download things02:47
webtoejohn_: to install programs?02:47
youngcoderis there a GUI that will allow me to quickly switch back and forth between different language inputs?02:47
webtoeyonugcoder: there's a gnome applet which will02:48
youngcoderi need to be able to type in russian but have no idea how to set it up02:48
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youngcoderwebtoe, what is it?02:48
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Zhukov_Mez, broken dependencies02:48
Seveasjohn_, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:48
webtoeyoungcoder: actually, it is just for keyboard input? the keyboard input applet02:48
El_CheI just discovered there is a HP iso from ubuntu. Do i need to reinstall my system or are the extra packages and setting apt-gettable02:48
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bz0bhey guys02:48
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bz0bdoes anyone recommend toshiba notebooks for linux?02:49
youngcoderwebtoe, yes.. sort of like windows will allow you to change your imput to a different language in the Regional Settings02:49
john_I 'am new to linux you can put what I know in eye drop02:49
webtoeyoungcoder: right click on the gnome panel at the top of the screen and select 'add to panel'02:49
bilboHow can I access my Windows partition from within Linux02:49
g0suhola02:49
webtoeyoungcoder: then choose the keyboard indicator selection02:49
dbeeHi guys, newbie question here ... I'm hooking ubuntu up to dyndns as per unofficial guide ... the script has created a ipcheck.err file somewhere that I have to delete ... unfortunately I can't find it ... I've tried 'whereis ipcheck.err', also 'find ipcheck.err' and 'ls -all directory' ... anybody got a suggestion ?02:50
Seveasbilbo: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically02:50
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bz0bbilbo, google ubuntu faq, an it should be the first link02:50
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Seveasdbee, sudo updatedb02:50
bz0band look through that02:50
youngcoderwebtoe, thank you very much02:50
Seveas[wait a while] 02:50
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bz0bhey Seveas02:50
Seveasslocate ipcheck.err02:50
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dbeeSeveas: updatedb ??? would that work ??02:51
webtoedbee: and to use the find command type find / -name ipcheck.err but it will take aggggges02:51
Seveasdbee, that updates the slocate database :)02:51
bz0bSeveas, in your opinion, do toshiba notebooks make good linux notebooks? as where as compatibilty wise, i already know the atheros wireless card it comes with would be, but in general?02:51
Seveasbz0b, wouldn't know02:52
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Ngbz0b: www.linux-laptop.net is a good place to investigate compatibility02:52
webtoebz0b: it all depends on what's inside each particular laptop. check google02:52
bz0bNg thanks02:52
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dbeeSeveas webtoe: nice one guys ... I'll try those now :-)02:52
kokaanyone get skype installed on amd64 ubuntu system?02:53
phenbz0b: check www.tux-mobile.org02:53
bz0bk02:53
phenor the wiki on ubuntu.com02:53
bz0bk02:53
webtoekoka: i think peopel were saying yesterday that there might be probelms on amd6402:53
Ngnot problems as such02:53
kokathanks02:53
webtoekoka: though i could be wrong. have you tried google?02:53
Ngit works fine on amd6402:53
bz0bphen, sure its not tuxmobil.org?02:53
Ngthere are just some things that don't work in 64bit because they are 32bit02:54
phenwell try it :)02:54
webtoeNg: i only vaguely remember the conversation, wasn't paying attentino :P02:54
john_ng  where should I look to learn todownload doc's gide what02:54
bz0bI did02:54
bz0band it didnt work02:54
phenthen without -02:54
phenit is mobilE02:54
phenthe e at the end02:54
Ngwebtoe: s'ok, it'd be pretty hard to keep track of everything said in here at some times :)02:54
Ngjohn_: I'm not quite sure what you mean?02:55
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Ngjohn_: if you're looking for general linux docs/guides, www.tldp.org has lots02:55
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Zhukovhey anyone have the package?02:56
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john_Ng I didn't get book with this dic lost02:57
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john_I've been xp user02:58
Whistlergood for you02:59
Whistler:)02:59
ThePyromaniacif i run apt-get install ubuntu should i run remove kubuntu after? or shud i purge? i forget how02:59
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TraceGreenHello, i want to a light file manager for copying and deleting files , any ideas?02:59
ZhukovTraceGreen, xffm02:59
webtoeTraceGreen: this for the command line or for GUI?02:59
survivorIs there anything close to Windows' Explorer for ubuntu? Like, with a tree view?03:00
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webtoesurvivor: nautilus has a tree view03:00
ZhukovThePyromaniac, if you aint gonna use kubuntu remove it after03:00
TraceGreenZhukov, I want a gui tool03:00
Zhukovsurvivor, nautilus03:00
survivorI couldn't find it then03:00
ZhukovTraceGreen, xffm03:00
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ThePyromaniacwould it be like dual boot then if i leave kubuntu there? or would it just be wasted space i cant log into?03:00
Seveassurvivor, you can make nautilus use browser mode03:00
ZhukovDid anyone found a package called transcode???Please!03:00
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Seveasopen the nautilus preferences and go to the 'behaviour' tab03:00
webtoesurvivor: in nautilus go to edit > preferences and on the second tab select browser mode03:00
SeveasZhukov, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl03:01
survivorI'll try it, thanks!03:01
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webtoesurvivor: and once nautilus is in browser mode on the left hand side there's a drop down menu where you can select tree03:01
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tawhow can i make mails sent by postfix not be considered spam ;-p ?03:01
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Seveasby not advertising viagra in them...03:02
tawit might have to do something with the HELO/EHLO request, it probably doesn't know my fqdn03:02
youngcoderbah i cant find a driver for my printer03:02
Seveastaw, edit /etc/mailname03:02
Seveasmake sure it has your hostname in it03:02
taw(it worked in debian's exim, week ago)03:02
Kromonosok, xorg is running but my resulution ist still 640x480 and I cannot scale it up :( apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work. What else can I do?03:02
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SeveasKromonos: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:03
ZhukovSeveas, you go to heaven for this03:03
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youngcoderanyone use a Lexmark P6250?03:03
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bilboSeveas: thanks - very helpful piece of code!03:05
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tawnice, it seems to work03:05
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Chrustinhodoes anybody run Gajim 0.8 successfully with Ubuntu?03:06
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grintChrustinho: : i use gajim 0.8 on hoary amd64 withou problems03:07
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Chrustinhogrint: did you compiled it by yourself or used a package?03:07
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grintChrustinho: i compile it03:08
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Chrustinhogrint: ok, i search a package for Ubuntu :)03:08
youngcoderanyone use a Lexmark P6250 printer?03:09
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ixizdoes Ubuntu don't have the 'import' command?03:10
ixizHow do I get that?03:10
vertzi got a minor problem, my norwegian charatures dont work properly, i see them as they should be, but for others they look like weird chars.. whats wrong?03:10
webtoeyoungcoder: i doni't think anyone does use that printer. have you looked at www.linux-printing.org03:10
webtoeixiz: what do you mean by import command? import what?03:11
youngcoderwebtoe, yes i have looked everywhere03:11
vertzixiz: import comes with imagemagick03:11
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ixizyes I ment that import to make screenshots :)03:11
vertzinstall imagemagick03:12
vertz: >03:12
ixizanother problem I have is, when I try to do sudo apt-get install irssi03:12
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ixizI get E: Package irssi has no installation candidate03:12
Seveasixiz, enable network downloads...03:13
Seveas!info irssi03:13
Seveas!info irssi-text03:13
ubotuirssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 779 kB, Installed size: 2520 kB03:13
ixiznetwork downloads?03:13
youngcoderthis is very annoying03:13
Seveasright, the package is called issi-text :)03:13
youngcoderi bought the one printer that doesnt have a linux driver03:13
ixizso I should apt-get install irssi-text ?03:13
Seveasyes03:13
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thoreauputicSeveas: is it OK to pm you briefly re: our conversation yesterday?03:13
Seveasthoreauputic, very briefly - am about to leave :)03:14
thoreauputicOK03:14
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ZhukovThanks Seveas03:14
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janne__hi all!03:15
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webtoesorry youngcoder. linuxprinting.org appears down to me but google doesn't turn anything up.03:15
janne__help me in this: Where goes my installed progs when i use wine?03:15
Zhukovjanne__, /home/username/.wine03:16
janne__i see....i check03:16
Zhukovthere is something there like fake c or fake windows03:16
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codomaniac!autoconf03:17
ubotucodomaniac: Syntax error in line 103:17
can-o-wormswhen i do make menuconfig the setting from the current kernel are being read from somewhere... can someone tell me how to stop that03:18
can-o-worms?03:18
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codomaniac!ubotu03:18
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:18
codomaniac!aclocal03:18
ubotucodomaniac: No idea03:18
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webtoe!info aclocal03:18
codomaniac!info aclocal03:19
Ngcan-o-worms: in the top level of the kernel source check for a .config file and move it out of the way03:20
codomaniacwebtoe, you there ?03:20
Ngcodomaniac: what are you trying to find out?03:20
webtoeyeah03:20
Ngignore ubotu, it's stupid ;)03:20
webtoewhat you looking for?03:20
webtoeinfo is usd to look up packages03:20
codomaniacheh it is like emacs M-X doctor program :) ?03:20
webtoelol03:20
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webtoehow are you feeling.....03:20
janne__i dont have director like .wine....but program is working....strange03:20
webtoe:P03:21
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codomaniachmm i am doing CVS install of E17 ;)03:21
codomaniacdid CVS download03:21
janne__cd ./.wine03:21
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{Seb}what is going on with backports?03:21
Kamping_Kaisercan anyone lend a hand with my DHCP server config? it says "No subnet declaration for eth1 (192.168.1.154). Not configured to listen on any interfaces!", but i don't see where to add one in03:21
can-o-wormsNg: i can do that... but i downloaded the source from kernel.org, but it still managed to find all this crap from somewhere03:21
codomaniacnow acc to the INSTALL there in the dir I am supposed to ./autogen.sh03:21
{Seb}no new packages? no posts being answered on forums03:21
Kamping_Kaiseri havent had this problem b efore :|03:21
codomaniacbut when i run that i get this error ./autogen.sh: line 8: aclocal: command not found03:21
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Ngcan-o-worms: that's quite odd, I don't think it should be doing that03:21
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codomaniacwhy is that any idea webtoe ?03:22
codomaniacNg, also noticed my problem ?03:22
webtoecodomaniac: hmmm that's strange. aclocal is to do with language settings etc.03:22
Ngcodomaniac: you need to install the automake package03:22
Zhukovanyone uses pan here?03:22
codomaniacumm. okay03:22
webtoecodomanias: Ng is right me thinks....s/he always is....03:22
Ngcodomaniac: or possibly automake1.403:22
Ngwebtoe: I am not always right ;)03:23
can-o-wormsNg: it did it again, i moved .config, but it still knows03:23
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webtoe:P03:23
codomaniacwill do an apt-get install automake :) ng ?03:23
Ngcodomaniac: should be ok :)03:23
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codomaniacaclocal is part of that ? Ng ?03:24
Ngcan-o-worms: hmm, I'm just wondering if it's the default config and looks like the ubuntu one03:24
Ngcodomaniac: yes03:24
codomaniacah fine.03:24
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can-o-wormsNg: not a chance, i have some pretty specific stuff set up in the graphics support section for a matrox card03:25
webtoeNg: I don't suppose you have any good ideas for learning to program C? resources etc.? under linux...03:25
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Subson1xhi. someone wants to help me with www.ubuntux.org?03:25
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Ngwebtoe: firstly you need the K&R book, then something like Anjuta to develop in. There are some developing gnome applications books too, so maybe the K&R C reference, a Teach Yourself C type book and a linuxy related C book?03:26
Frederickguys I got a P4 1.6 Ghz but only 64mb ram can I install ubuntu? how much swap do you recommend? thx in advance03:26
can-o-wormswebtoe: or just learn perl03:26
Ngcan-o-worms: that's really odd. There is a feature in new kernels to expose the running config in /proc/config.gz or something like that, but I don't think the vanilla kernel source is supposed to look for it03:26
g0suplease one question, for change clock to UTF -> local?03:27
webtoeNg: i've looked at perl and its fun to a point but it bugs me. And I have one or two C books (i.e. basic C programming) but looking for specific linux/gnome03:27
Ngcan-o-worms: you could dig around in arch/i386/ and find a more default config03:27
Subson1xFrederick: it will run, but very slowly because of constant swapping. 512mb swap at least, better 1gb03:27
FrederickSubson1x, thx a lot03:27
Ngwebtoe: I'd say that perl/python will get you to writing applications quicker, but I can understand wanting to learn C, it's a nice language :)03:28
Subson1xFrederick: does it run with the live-cd?03:28
webtoeNg: the main reasons is a.) a lot of stuff under linux is still programmed in C/C++ and b.) doing a Msci computer science and think it would be useful03:29
Subson1xdoes someone want to blog his/her experiences made with ubuntu? /msg me03:29
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dbeeHi, should you expect to encounter problems connecting dyndns to a computer behind a home router ??? or am I barking up the wrong tree here <woof><woof> ?03:29
codomaniacnow what is libtoolize part of Ng ?03:30
janne__how it can be true that i see driver c: when im using wine?03:30
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janne__i mean when im installing game....?03:30
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Subson1xdbee: should be no problem03:30
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Zhukovjanne__, thet c drive ios the fake windows or fake c folder under .wine03:31
janne__and: How can i start programs in that drive c:?03:31
Zhukovgotcha?03:31
Zhukov:D03:31
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peterretiefcant get my mouse to work (serial port geflunkt)03:31
can-o-wormsSubson1x: sure man.... here is my blog -> P.I.T.A03:31
janne__Where is that fake drive?03:31
Ngcodomaniac: libtool1.4 I think03:31
Subson1xcan-o-worms: url?03:31
Zhukovjanne__, under your home folder, .wine03:32
can-o-wormsSubson1x: that's it man... ubuntu is a pita03:32
codomaniacthanks Ng :)03:32
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Subson1xcan-o-worms: and why is that? sorry i don't understand :)03:32
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webtoecodomaniac: you can use dpkg --search to look which package provides a file (i think)03:33
webtoePITA = pain in the ass/arse03:33
clem_yeatsnice :))03:33
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webtoeright i got to go away for a couple of minutes, be back soon03:34
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Ngcodomaniac: take a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ you can search for the filenames to find out what package something is in :)03:34
codomaniachmm thanks03:35
dbeeSubson1x: I run the dyndns_update script and don't get any errors, the ipcheck.dat file seems fine - but when I point the browser to the url I get a www.myhostname.homeunix.com cannot be found. Is it a problem at their end ?? or mine ???03:35
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Subson1xdbee: try ping www.myhostname.homeunix.com and compare to your current ip03:36
zer0~/.wine/drive_c03:36
Subson1xthen you know if it was updated correctly03:36
zer0i installed mirc there03:36
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Dr_Willisewwww...03:36
Dr_Willis:P03:36
Subson1xzer0: take KVIrc, runs native :)03:36
zer0mirc has great scripting03:36
bensonQuestion: I quickly learn that even if you have write permissions to a NTFS drive, you cant write to it in linux (I did it out of habit) but I have my NTFS mounted with Read only now, so say i did the same thing again, i got the read only error, so its different than the messege I got last time, I just want to make sure I didn't just screw it up03:37
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janne__thanks for all those helps....now i actually find those files....using command: cd ~/.wine/drive_c03:38
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Subson1xbenson: that should be alright, you can't write now because linux blocked it because of your r-o mount03:40
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bensonalso, I came in here yesterday, cuz I could mount my NTFS drive, but i didnt have permissions,  I was just doing mount -r -t NTFS blah blah blah, and some guy gave me a line of sudo mount blah -o and then my name and like GUI-and stuff, anyone know that command so I can write it down for future reference03:40
Dr_Williszer0,  that statement is one of some debate.03:40
bensonall i did was i was listening to mp3z and tried to change the ID file and it said read only error, and I was like OH DUH, i just want to make sure its not likely a problem03:41
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bensonI dont think Ubuntu is exactly the easiest linux to start learning with :-)03:41
bensonmy cousin uses linux and I was asking him all these question and hes like dude with Mandrake i dont have to do any of that03:42
Dr_Willisbenson,  the design goal is sort of to becomne a disrto that anyone could use with no learning. :P03:42
dbeeSubson1x: I pinged the url but got no answer ... I double checked the account details at dyndns ... it's definitely a dynamic dns account set up at that URL. I don't really know what to do now ... I've updated the sh and the db03:42
Dr_Willisthen gain - each disrto has its own strengths and weaknesses.03:42
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Dr_WillisIve had to do things with mandrake. that i dont ever have to touch in Ubuntu.03:42
bensonbelieve me, i dont mind screwing up my hard drive and having to reboot because of some mistake I make, thats the best way to learn these things, point is, I have to know Linux, and multiple distros, so I might as well get started learning03:43
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medamaybedoes anyone know how I can set up (something in ubuntu) so I can use http://computername, instead of http://computer-ip  ?03:43
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Ngbenson: the wiki has information about mounting ntfs drives03:43
bensonbut does anyone know that command line I mentioned?  I know it was like Sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/blah r-o? GID-benson something like that03:43
smykesI'm trying to get Alexandria installed in my classroom, it just kind of sits there when I try to search for a book03:44
jockel__what does "backports" mean in detail ? are "backports" the plain debian packages ?03:44
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bensonyeah ive looked and followed it, but i didnt see that command I had to come here for help cuz it mounted I just had no permissions to view it03:44
Ngjockel__: backports are packages of programs that were released after the current ubuntu release03:44
Ngjockel__: so newer versions of things in hoary, mostly03:44
jockel__Ng, thanks03:44
jockel__sorry for ask this question at all as i just found it in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:45
Ngfinding the wiki is always good :)03:45
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bensonanyone ever fooled with the 3D desktop?03:45
Dr_Willismedamaybe,  you could edit the hosts file - thats the simplest way.. unless the pcs are using dhcp.03:45
medamaybethey're not using dhcp,  where can I find the hosts file?03:46
Dr_Willisbenson, ages ago i twiddled with it - it seemed to be more of a college-project then a usable tool at the time.03:46
Dr_Willismedamaybe,  in /etc :P with all the other config files03:46
medamaybelol03:46
medamaybesorry  :(03:46
medamaybethanks03:46
bensonyeah, it kinda just looks cool, but evenutally i think it would grow old03:47
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dbeeHi, I'm trying to get dyndns to work with my ubuntu ... I've registered and ran the dyndns_update script with no errors, but when I try to ping my chosen URL, I get no reply ... anybody got any ideas ?03:47
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Dr_Willisbenson,  yea - it was neat eye candy. but really i dont see it adding much to real usability.03:47
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bensonbut thats one thing I really think is cool about linux is the additional workspaces,03:48
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Dr_Willisbenson,  in this day and age - seems people rarely use the 'multi-desktop' features much less all this 3d stuff.03:48
bensoni think its a good idea atleast03:48
dinummmm03:48
dini use my 8 desktops religously03:48
Dr_Willisthe idea of multi-workspaces has been around for years. :P MS has just decided users are too dumb to handle it.03:48
survivorNo matter how hard I tried, I never got used to multiple desktops.03:48
Dr_Willisdin,  and you are not a typical user. :P03:48
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dinwell no03:49
Lefungushello03:49
dinheh03:49
Gadjeti rarely use multidesktops... higher res is the solution i use :)03:49
bensonyou know, you got a huge file copying or something and dont want to see it on your screen or something, u know03:49
Dr_WillisI got the same feature under windows..03:49
Zhukovsurvivor, multiple desktop are heaven :D03:49
LefungusI'm on breezy, new to apt-get, I'm trying to find the name of xorg headers package03:49
bensoni dont know mine was on 1280 and it was just too small for me to see comforatably03:49
Lefungusanyone has a clue ?03:49
Dr_WillisMulti Monitor support - is finially getting decent at least!03:49
bensonlefungus wouldnt it be listen in the package manager?03:49
dinmy desk is 2560x1024 and most days i have at least half my workspaces filled03:49
survivorMulti monitoring = heaven03:50
bensonwhat size moniter you have, din03:50
saiguranhave anyone used octave, python, gnuplot to plot geographical/climatic systems on a map using three variable e.g longitude, latitude and temperature/rainfall/wind/etc?03:50
dinbenson: dual head, 2 19" monitors03:50
survivorBut I never thought multiple desktops were intuitive03:50
Gadjetohh, multi monitoring is great03:50
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Gadjetat work, we've got 3 lcd's03:50
Gadjetit sucks coming home to my lonely 1 CRT :(03:50
bensonmines 17" i cant really see if mines 1280,03:50
survivorIt's like, I click somewhere in the main panel to get to a specific desktop, then on the task bar to get to a window and then every app has it's own tabbing system03:50
Dr_Willisoften - i find the window managers are too brain dead to make multi-monitors that usable.. but they have all gotten better. :P03:51
survivorway too deep of a hierarchy for me03:51
dinGadjet: i feel your pain03:51
medamaybeafter I edit the hosts file, do I have to restart/reload anything?03:51
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dinexcept i only have 1 lcd at home03:51
dinmedamaybe: no03:51
survivorDr: Yep, I needed a freeware tool to get two task bars even on Windows03:51
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medamaybehm..that's easy03:51
Dr_Willissurvivor,  i spend hrs on ever new windows install - to get it into a usable system . :P03:52
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LokeDKI'm using a clearlooks theme, but synaptic and the update manager has the "default" theme .. old fashion.. what's wrong?03:52
survivorHow often do you do that? :D03:52
survivorI installed Win2K three years ago03:52
Dr_Willissurvivor,  depends on how engertic the wife is with downloading crud-ware. :P03:52
survivorand didn't even bother to keep it clean03:52
dinmy wife uses linux03:52
dinwell she really has no choice in the matter03:52
dinheh03:53
depravemy cat uses linux03:53
din<-- linux sys admin03:53
Dr_Willismy wife just HAS to get into the XXX yahoo rooms. :P I got no choice in the matter.03:53
Dr_Willis:P03:53
XappeLokeDK: that's because you run them as root03:53
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spolais that where you met?03:53
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Unifiedhi03:53
depravedin: my cat just rolled his eyes.03:53
Dr_Willisnah - i got my wife off of. Russianbrides.com03:53
Dr_Willis:P03:53
spolarofl >:)03:53
dindeprave: did he chase them too? :p03:54
LokeDKXandriX, It does that as standard doesn't it?03:54
Unifiedi've installed breezy colony 3, but when I boot for the first time after installation it gives me an oops with hw_random: RNG not detected and freezes. what can i do?03:54
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depravei hear india is outsourcing their linux outsourcing staffs to a farm of chimpanzees03:54
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ZhukovDAMN!! MY CAT RIPPED MY MOUSE CORD!03:54
Gadjetanyone had any problems with upgrading the kernel to 2.6.12-6 (SMP) on hp lpr1000 (uses megaraid scsi) i'm currently running breezy dev ? (i just get the generic error of not being able to pivot_root, 'no such file or directory dev/console')03:54
medamaybeDr_Willis,  what if the computers ARE using dhcp? is it possible to make http://computername  work then?03:54
Lefungusbenson, well, I don't find it03:55
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Dr_Willismedamaybe,  not sure then. run your own dns server perhaps..03:55
Lefungustrying to search with "xorg headers"03:55
Zhukovno wonder it wanst working03:55
medamaybewell, all the computers are connected to a server03:55
medamaybewin2k03:55
medamaybeand from all the windows PCs I can type:  http://computername  and it works, but in ubuntu it didn't work03:56
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dinmedamaybe: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_a_Dynamic_DNS_with_an_Updating_Daemon03:56
dinthat may help you03:56
Zhukovbuaaa im mouseless03:56
benson/dev/hda6 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [/] 03:56
benson   Does that mean there are Errors?03:56
medamaybethaanks din, I'll take a look03:56
dinalthough it's gentoo, it has very useful info03:56
XappeLokeDK: so maybe if you change the system wide theme setting they will show up looking as the rest of your desktop, but now i'm only guessing :)03:57
LokeDKXappe, How do I do that?03:57
XappeLokeDK: i'm not sure...have never bothered trying that myself03:58
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bytefoosup :|03:58
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bytefoois there a lean and mean guide around for ubuntu :|03:58
LokeDKoh okay03:58
ajdnooby question :P, I just have linux installed on my comp and i want to format it (not with installation after) and I was sure you lovely people could tell me how :P03:59
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spola!ubuntuguide04:00
ubotuspola: Syntax error in line 104:00
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dinlol04:00
Dr_Willisheh04:00
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bytefoonah, lean and mean guide04:00
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Dr_Willisajd,  what are you going to do with it afterwards? want a totally new/clean hard drive?04:00
LokeDKSomething is wrong with xchat.. is crashes when i choose "Load Plugin or Script.." from menu..04:01
spolait gives a link to a better one (or should)04:01
ajdyeah04:01
mjbuninkWell... not exactly04:01
bytefooso i can get rid of all these useless services that are on by default04:01
bytefooand making it pokey :o04:01
Gadjetfdisk is fun :)04:01
bytefoo!ubuntuguide04:01
ubotubytefoo: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:01
bytefoo:/04:01
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din!ubuntuguide04:01
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, din04:01
spoladamn bot not being able to guess what we want even if it's soooo obvious04:01
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Dr_Willisajd,  use a live cd and the fdisk, or qt_parted or similer disk partining tools to delete all the partitions.04:02
bytefooi gotta make it speedy :-/04:02
bytefoolike arch or vector :|04:02
ajdok thanks :)04:02
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mjbuninkI'm having trouble playing mp3's (I know I'm not the only one), but installed all the codecs specified in ubuntuguide. Still no go (could not determine type of stream). Any thoughts on that one?04:02
ajdcya04:02
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Dr_Willismjbunink,  check the wikis yet? they tend to be more up-to-date04:03
d2dchathey, im having problems with my wireless card04:03
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d2dchatlspci shows that its there04:03
CarlFKwhere are some hints on how to setup vsFTP so that all local users can read/write to /home/ftp (other than 777)04:03
d2dchatand i had it working04:04
janne__hi all gain!04:04
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d2dchatbut it doesnt show up in iwconfig04:04
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mofhi04:04
CarlFKd2dchat - dmesg|less - see if the driver is trying to load04:04
d2dchathow do i do that?04:04
dinbahahaha my boss just came in and gave me a qmail beer cuzzi04:04
CarlFKd2dchat - or lsmod to see if the driver is loaded04:04
d2dchatthen what?04:05
mjbuninkDr_Willis, Hmmm... not yet. good suggestion. will try. Btw. Ubuntu is (feels) way snappier than Mdk or FC!04:05
janne__1 prob: how i can move folder with one blank spot between names: like this : Matrix Games ?04:05
spolaubotu wiki UbotuUsage04:05
d2dchatif it isnt, install the driver and if it is?04:05
Dr_Willismjbunink,  lol :P04:05
CarlFKd2dchat - then tell us what you find04:05
d2dchatk04:05
d2dchatbrb04:05
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d2dchat:)04:05
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Zhukovjanne__, go to the folder that contaisn taht folder04:05
janne__yes? and?04:05
Dr_Willisjanne__,  with bash you mean?04:05
janne__bash?04:06
Zhukovand do mv Matr(and it tab)   the console auto completes04:06
slisthello guys, im having problems with my graphics card, i buyed a better one than before (it was msi  6600 pci-e) and what i bought is asus 6600 pci-e GT... anyways i can't get it work in 3d mode, i tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg and install nvidia drivers again, but it won't work, is there something i should do to get rid of those old drivers or something, it seems that my system is locked up or something04:06
mofjanne__, '...'04:06
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Subson1xre04:06
Dr_Willisthe shell :P04:06
janne__i try04:06
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Dr_Willismv 'foo bar' 'foobar'04:06
Zhukovlol04:06
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CarlFKjanne__ - how are you currently trying to move it?04:07
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CarlFKjanne__ (this will help figure out what flavor of anwer to give)04:07
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janne__Thanks very much for helping me....now i can play Steel Panthers....04:10
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janne__i learn a lot today...04:11
www-ubuntux-org:)04:11
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moflearning by playing ??04:11
janne__Ubuntu rules!04:11
janne__Bye!04:11
youngcoderdoes anyone know anything concerning a driver compatibility with Lexmark P6250 printer?04:11
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mofyoungcoder, try turboprint if in doubt04:12
youngcodergot a link?04:12
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mofsearch it by yourself04:13
mofat google04:13
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sproingieturboprint is canon, epson, and hp only, no?04:14
youngcoderi did04:14
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mofhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/turboprint/04:14
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youngcoderi was wondering if someone had compiled something04:14
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sproingiehell their drivers on windows barely work04:14
filip_i have now run ubuntu for 2 weeks and now wonder how can ubuntu be that good? i meen i can have and internte browser, musicplayer, gaim valknut xchat synaptic and an game nnd my computer is running whitout problem. In Win2k i cant have an webbbrowser, winamp, MSN running whitout problem.04:15
CarlFK"search it by yourself" = "yes" + "arch it by ourself" ;)04:15
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sproingiefilip_: welcome to linux04:15
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survivorYou have a poor Win2K then, though.04:15
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JzEHey.... Is there boot floppies for Ubuntu?04:16
sproingietho i must say that browser+winamp+msn isn't exactly high load04:16
mofsproingie, sorry, you'r right04:16
CarlFKJzE - kinda... SBM04:16
filip_thanx, how long does i need to wait for my cd from shipit ? I live in Sweden04:16
slisthmm, now i got glxgears work, but it can make only 600fps, it should do over 4000, any tips?04:16
CarlFKJzE - you have a CD but it won't boot, right?04:16
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JzECarlFK: Umm... What's that? I need floppies because my old comp won't boot cd's04:16
mofmaybe lexmark offers drivers04:17
JzECarlFK: Yep04:17
d2dchati did lsmod and it gave me a bunch of things but i didnt see anything about wireless04:17
www-ubuntux-orgfilip_: a few weeks i think04:17
spolai saw this thing in my bash_profile about adding ~/bin to the PATH if it exists, but it's not added ... what could cause this?04:17
d2dchator at least i dont think i did04:17
filip_ok04:17
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CarlFKJzE - look on the ubuntu wiki (i forgot the url.. duh) for SBM (smart boot manager) it is a floppy that will boot a CD04:17
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JzECarlFK: ok.. thanks :)04:18
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lexmarkdoes anyone know if there are yahoo messenger clients that works with ubuntu?04:18
Zhukovlexmark, gaim04:18
slistgaim?04:18
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slistbitlbee also04:18
CarlFKJzE - if you find it, post the link here.. I have something to add to it04:18
slistit's a messenger "software" for irc-clients04:19
zer0slist what does it say when you type  glxinfo | grep renderer04:19
JzECarlFK: ok04:19
slistzer0: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect04:19
zer0oh you have no hardware acceleration04:19
zer0what graphisc card ?04:19
lexmarkgaim? is that available in package manager?04:19
slistasus 6600 gt pci-e04:20
www-ubuntux-orglexmark: for sure04:20
JzECarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto?highlight=%28boot%29%7C%28smart%29%7C%28manager%2904:20
survivorIt's included in ubuntu's standard installation04:20
slistlexmark: it's installed by default04:20
spolalexmark, should be installed by default (so yes)04:20
JzECarlFK: Is it that?04:20
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noodleis there a way to "alternate" the default os from windows to ubuntu automatically between reboots?04:20
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Zhukovnoodle, no04:21
CarlFKJzE - yup04:21
osfameronheh, that's a cute idea though :-)04:21
lexmarkthanx04:21
noodledoh04:21
slistzer0: i said my problem earlier, i can't get this new card drivers work i did have msi 6600 non-gt version, and i bought 6600 gt, now it won't work in 3d mode, do you have any advice in this?04:21
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spolait's prolly doable to specify what should boot next from within ubuntu, but not from windows04:21
CarlFKJzE - when you boot from sbm floppy, you may think you need to install it to the HD - you can, but you dont need to.  somewhere is a "boot from CD" option04:22
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mofslist, install nvidia driver04:22
Dr_WillisHmm.. wonder if the google messenger thing will get a linux port also.04:22
bytefoodid skype get a port?04:22
pybenoodle, i have seen somthing you can do in grub for this i thought. Have you googled?04:22
JzECarlFK: Ok.. I try it04:22
Dr_Willisactually its all open spec. isent it?04:22
depraveit does, it's called gaim04:22
noodlepybe: well no wasn't sure what to google for04:22
Dr_Willisgaim works with the new google chat?04:22
slistmof: i have done that many times, won't help04:22
zer0slist is there a linux driver on asus' website ?04:22
bytefooDr_Willis, it is just jabber04:22
depraveyes it does, just set it as a jabber protocol04:22
spolaDr_Willis, i think so (i heard it used yapster)04:23
spolaor yabber, LOL04:23
Dr_Willisbytefoo,  cool. :P heh - ive not any 'friends' to talk to. so it just shows my gmail info.04:23
pybenoodle, you want it to keep booting windows if thats what was manually chosen for example?04:23
bytefooye04:23
mofslist, did you edit your xorg.conf ?04:23
noodlepybe: if i'm in linux and i reboot, i want grub to default to windows on the next boot, and vice versa if i'm on windows :)04:24
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Dr_Willisgoogle is getting some very handy tools out.  Picisa2 - saved my wife a lot of time.04:24
depravewhat's picasa?04:24
slistmof: yes04:24
Dr_Willisgrub has a feature where it can rember what you last selected.04:24
Dr_Willisdeprave,  google's image browser/thumbnail/database program.04:24
www-ubuntux-orgk3wl04:24
Dr_Willisdeprave,  no linux port yet however. :( that i know of.04:24
depravefor unix?04:24
depraveoh04:24
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www-ubuntux-orgthat's bad04:25
slistzer0: i can only find windows driver04:25
mofwith comment the lines with 'GLcore' and 'dri'04:25
noodleDr_Willis: can it set it to boot the last !selected?04:25
ZhukovDr_Willis, but i think what is want is something like, now windows, now linux, now windows, now linux04:25
noodleyep that's what i want04:25
noodle:)04:25
Zhukov:)04:25
bytefooi wonder if gensplash is available04:26
Dr_Willisit rembers the last item you booted to noodle .   any other way would be odd. ;p what if you had 100 entries.. :P you may be able to MAke your grub menus change the default for the next boot. not sure how..04:26
Dr_WillisI find that it alwyas defaults to the WRONG os whatever i do.04:26
noodleback to google i guess :|04:26
Dr_Willis:P04:26
Dr_Willisi just set the timeout to be somthing real long. like 60 sec.. so i can be sure to catch it and tell it what to boot to04:27
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Dr_Willisi find it hard to belive that you KNOW you want to go from Linux/windows/linux/windows regullary. :P04:27
noodlemy entire motivation for doing this is because i want to go to the fridge between reboots without waiting to select the os > <04:27
sproingiewell one usually reboots linux when they want to go to windows04:28
sproingieand when one reboots windows, they're disgusted enough with it to do linux for a while04:28
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Dr_Willisactually i think theres a way you can shutdown linux, and tell it what os to reboot to.04:28
Dr_Willisseen that in some disrtos.. Not sure how they did it however.04:28
humppa_czhi. i've got problems with binutils (same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37516), but apt-get update; apt-get upgrade doesn't help me.. :( which version of binutils is in repository just now?04:28
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Dr_Willismust of been some tweaking of the grub.conf right befor it reboots.04:28
sproingieDr_Willis: it's not hard to set the next boot from linux04:28
dentalciao04:28
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humppa_cz..i've got binutils 2.15-5ubuntu2.204:29
sproingieDr_Willis: good luck doing it from windows.  i don't know if grub even reads fat04:29
Dr_Willisthen again - on my current machine - i got 2 hard drives. I hit F11 for the bios boot menu to pick my hd to boot. :P04:29
Dr_Willisso none of this is even testable by me right now.04:29
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sproingieDr_Willis: you could put /boot on a fat partition, or do something with colinux on windows.  either hack seems a little bit of a steep price04:30
slistDr_Willis: i'd like to have that function in my old machine, which runs smootwall right now04:30
sproingieprobably easier to just hack grub04:30
Dr_Willisheh - have a mini disrto just to handle the boot loader. :P04:30
Dr_Willisbeen there done that!04:30
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Dr_WillisGrubLinux :P no that wasent the name...04:31
www-ubuntux-orgwhat is the best RSS news feed aggregator for gnome?04:31
CarlFKthere is a free ext2 fs driver for win04:31
www-ubuntux-orgit should be capable of RSS and Atom04:31
mjbuninkDr_Willis, thanx for the advice. With some comman thinking I could have thought of the wiki's myself, but no, I had to grep in /etc and plough through libs. It actually works now! Thanks for pointing me in the right drection instead of flaming. I think i'm going to enjoy this distro.04:31
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slistsmoothwall is awesome but i'd like to install few more stuff in it, like ftp server04:31
spolawww: i drag the rss links to my firefox bookmarks so they expand into the newsstories they contain, works great04:31
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www-ubuntux-orgspola: hmm i like firefox, but the rss thing isn't perfect in there :(04:32
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www-ubuntux-orgit should regularly visit these blogs and inform me about news04:33
Dr_Willismjbunink,  glad i could help... i just cant rember what i helped you do....... :)04:33
CarlFKhttp://www.fs-driver.org  "s Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access)."04:33
Lefunguswhere is the same thing for reiserfs ?04:33
CarlFKLefungus - in the future ;)04:34
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www-ubuntux-orgi don't think it exists04:34
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www-ubuntux-orgbtw. reiserFS or ext3? what to prefer?04:34
Lefungusanyway, it's cool04:34
CarlFKindeed04:34
Lefungusit means vfat can die peacefully at last04:34
bytefooi think it depends :-/04:34
CarlFKwww-ubuntux-org - whatever is the default ;)04:34
slistcan you tell me more about reiserFS?04:34
pybenoodle, i dont have ubuntu here at the mo, is there an app called rebootin installed or in apt-cache search04:35
bytefoolike reiser is really fast as i understand it, but not so good for laptops since it accesses the ahrddrive way too much :X04:35
www-ubuntux-orgCarlFK: i think there are more tools supportings ext3 than reiserFS04:35
noodlepybe checking04:35
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bytefoobecause always updating the inodes04:35
noodleno :(04:35
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www-ubuntux-orgbytefoo: good to know04:36
bytefooi *think*04:36
bytefoodon't quote me :-X04:36
www-ubuntux-orgext3 is default in ubuntu, i guesS?04:36
bytefooi use ext3 :-/04:36
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derek_Hi there i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to enable DMA from boot on my dvdrom drive04:36
pybenoodle: search for it it allows you to specify an os to reboot into 1 time only from linux04:36
_frank_derek: edit /etc/hdparm.conf04:36
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CarlFKhttp://packages.ubuntu.com for whoever wanted to search the repos04:37
noodleok04:37
pybenoodle:  or there is this that might do it for you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=75640404:37
humppa_cz_hi. i've got problems with binutils (same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37516), but apt-get update; apt-get upgrade doesn't help me.. :( which version of binutils is in repository just now?04:37
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handohi there04:37
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filip_what is the easiest way to setup an ftp server in ubuntu?04:38
daSeincan anyone help04:38
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Subson1xhttp://www.ubuntux.org/poll :)04:38
mjbuninkDr_Willis, mp3 codecs, am enjoying muine in full effect at the very moment04:38
saintFrancehow do i make my desktop all pretty and stuff? like ive seen some crazy desktops04:38
derek_ok got that file open04:38
pybefilip_ apt-get install vsftpd then nano /etc/vsftpd.conf then /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart all don04:39
slistfilip_: with aptitude install proftp04:39
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galathalionhelp me please..04:39
yuckyzhi04:39
CarlFKfilip_ - apt-get install vsftpd04:39
galathalion:<04:39
daSeinhas ubuntu linux installation menus like mandriva or suse? or is it as all previous debians?04:39
slistfilip_: or im not sure is it the easiest, but least it it's not the hardest04:39
SeveasdaSein, like debians, but less questions04:39
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slistis there a support for anonymous accounts in vsftpd?04:40
Subson1xnot graphical yet04:40
mjrdaSein, I'm not sure what you mean by installation menus; Ubuntu install uses debian-installer, but much streamlined04:40
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yuckyzi read the support and my 3com nic isnt supported by ubuntu, can the driver used in fedora or whitebox of that 3com nic work in ubuntu too?04:40
daSeini mean does it auto install grafical desktops or have you got to 'di it yourself'04:40
Subson1xbut installation is very fast and works, that's the main point04:40
daSeindo it04:40
mofsaintFrance, http://www.directupload.net/show/d/428/9ZJOT8rv.jpg like this04:40
mjrdaSein, Gnome is automatically installed04:40
SeveasdaSein, by default it installs a desktop04:40
daSeinexcellent04:40
filip_pybe: should i restard my computer?04:40
mjr(or KDE, if installing from a Kubuntu CD)04:40
daSeini tried to install woody04:40
Seveaseither gnome or kde, depending on whether you have an ubuntu cd or kubuntu04:40
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slistfilip_: leave that for windows users04:41
pybefilip_ no04:41
daSeinand cound not manage to install X04:41
daSeincould04:41
filip_slist: ha!04:41
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CarlFKpybe - know of any example vsftp configs?04:41
yuckyzmy first time to see linux that my lancard or nic cant be detected by ubuntu but can be detected by fedora or whitebox or openbsd. any help pls?04:41
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daSeinthanks people04:41
Nermalis there an easy way to get a service started at boot ? something like insserv in suse or rc-update in gentoo ?04:41
derek_frank ive got that file open what do i need to edit, sorry only been using linux for a week04:42
daSeini hope next time we'll talk i had already installed this distro!04:42
bytefoogoooooo breezy!04:42
Subson1xkubuntu doesn't make sense imho, because you can install KDE with ubuntu as well04:42
daSeini saw gnome desktop04:42
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daSeinon a friends laptop04:42
mofNermal, update-rc.d name defaults04:42
CarlFKsubterrific - you can, but with ku you don't need to ;)04:42
Nermalmof, cheers04:42
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daSeinbeautiful04:42
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jurihey, decided to give the official kernel a go for the first time, and ran into some problems i'm having trouble solving as i'm not familiar with initrd, lvm or even udev very much04:42
yuckyzwhat i love of ubuntu is tht it can run gaim-vv without any problem making me use webcam of yahoo messenger hehhehehe04:43
thoreauputicSeveas: ok I seem to have gnupg signing mail, and I exported public key to two servers - is that all I need to do to sign email?04:43
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juriit tells me, while trying to boot, that /dev/cdrom: open failed: No medium find, Unable to find volume group 306 and 306 does not exist04:43
filip_pybe: what should i restart?04:43
Seveasthoreauputic, yup04:43
jurii found some hits with google, but nothing very helpful04:43
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spolayuckyz, you have a webcam that works with ubuntu? what's it called?04:43
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jbaileyjuri: This is breezy, riht?04:43
juriyes04:43
jbaileyjuri: Which CD did you install from?04:43
jurijust apt-get dist-upgraded04:43
slistSubson1x: what if you don't want to download kde or you can't download it because your installing it to machine which has slow internet connection for an example04:43
jbaileyjuri: When was this?04:43
yuckyzspola yes use gaim-vv04:44
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jurii don't think i've reinstalled this box since debian 0.93 or something like that :-)04:44
CarlFKfilip_ - no.  the only time you need to restart is when you upgrade the kernel04:44
jurijbailey, er, yesterday or the day before04:44
filip_carlFK: okej04:44
jbaileyjuri: That problem ought to have been fixed as of yesterday afternoon. =)04:44
marco__hi to all ! I have some question about ppc ubuntu04:44
jurioh, great04:44
yuckyzcreative webcam can work with gaim-vv04:44
spolayuckyz, lol, i was referring to the hardware :p i'm dead afraid im gonna buy a webcam and it's not gunna work04:44
juriwill have to try it the next time i reboot04:44
spolaoh, thx04:44
Subson1xgo and vote for ubuntu :) http://www.ubuntux.org/poll04:44
twibbleron gstreamer getiing this error Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' can anybody help please ..04:44
jurithanks :-)04:44
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jbaileyjuri: The trick now is to upgrade your initramfs-tools to 0.23, and then regenerated the initramfs.04:44
noodlepybe: grub-reboot will do it i think, :)04:44
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Timmu_Hello04:45
pybeCarlFK:  the one in /etc/ is a basic sample just need to tweak a bit for you.04:45
somedude_ive got a folder namne: "-=Cartoons=-" and i cant rename it or move it???04:45
jbaileyjuri: You can either do that through apt-get --reinstall the kernel, or just mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-7-686 2.6.10-7-686  (Substituting the appropriate version for your setup)04:45
Timmu_Anyone using Avaks Roadrunner 10 Pci network card in ubuntu04:45
yuckyzand i find it so difficult to install  gaim-vv in whitebos or fedora :((04:45
juriok, thank you!04:45
somedude_i get this error:  mv -\=Cartoons\=- Cartoons04:45
somedude_mv: invalid option -- =04:45
somedude_Try `mv --help' for more information.04:45
pybefilip_:  you will need to restart the service if you edit the config file so it picks up the new sttings04:45
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monkey89somedude_, try mv -- "-=Cartoons-=" Cartoons04:46
monkey89or whatever it is04:46
mof mv -r '-\=Cartoons\=-' Cartoons04:46
CarlFKpybe - I am tying to setup anonymous: read from pub/, write to incoming, and the local shell users have full read/write to both04:46
jbaileyjuri: No prob.  Please ping me if you have further problems.04:46
pybefilip_:  thats the command #: /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart04:46
pybeCarlFK:  one sec04:46
somedude_mv: invalid option -- r04:46
filip_pybe: it works, how can i edit so they download from another directory, not /home/ftp04:46
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mof-R04:47
CarlFKmof what is the -R for?04:47
somedude_mof still the same04:47
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monkey89somedude_, so try what I said. it works.04:47
CarlFKif the dir starts with a - you need mv --  "-=Cartoons-=" Cartoons04:47
mofsomedude_, only one '-'04:47
Timmu_Someone who use Roadrunner 10 pci network card pm me /msg Timmu_04:47
monkey89no, two04:48
CarlFKdo i hear 3?04:48
monkey89hehe04:48
CarlFKI say you need 3....04:48
somedude_yaaay monkey89, u rule! :)04:48
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monkey89:)04:48
thoreauputicSeveas: pastebin info in /msg04:48
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somedude_any chance in u explaining what i just did? ;)04:48
CarlFK2 for the -- and one for the -04:48
monkey89for reference, the -- (at least as far as I know) shuts off the command line04:48
pybefilip_ man vsftpd.conf04:48
monkey89otherwise, mv considered the - to be a command line option and bonked out04:49
CarlFKI think -- is a bash thing?04:49
pybeCarlFK: you just need to allow anonymous and also chroot04:49
monkey89might be... i dont know04:49
somedude_ok, thanks monkey89!! and mof, thanks for trying! :)04:49
somedude_(no pun intended!)04:49
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galathalioncould anyone help me?04:50
monkey89(there's a pun there?)04:50
damskowhat i have to do to play .wma files in bmp04:50
Gadjetdoesn't \- work too?04:50
Gadjetor ./-filename04:50
monkey89i think ./ might04:50
marco__some body have ubuntu on ibook g3 500 mhz ?04:51
SeveasCarlFK, -- is a gnu getopt thing04:51
Timmu_where i can find Drivers For newest ubuntu ? some website or something04:51
Seveasmeans that any arguments after that are not command line option04:51
Seveass04:51
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CarlFKSeveas - explains why man mv didn't mention it.  thanks.04:51
Subson1xTimmu_: see http://www.ubuntux.org/forum/104:51
SeveasSubson1x, stop spamming your site04:52
Timmu_i hate this win xp... so slow04:52
Thunder000Where can I find the breezy kernel ?04:52
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SeveasThunder000, /boot/vmlinuz-*04:52
somedude_monkey89, well.. mof didnt solve it and well.. hmm.. nevermind! :)04:52
filip_pybe: where can i find an log of the server04:52
filip_?04:52
monkey89not much of a play on words is all I'm saying :)04:52
mofsomedude, without -r04:53
Thunder000Seveas: I mean I want to get the breezy kernel package... either via apt-get or website downlad04:53
damskowhat i have to do to play .wma files in bmp?04:53
mof mv '-\=Cartoons\=-' Cartoons04:53
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somedude_too late mof :(04:53
monkey89mv '-=Cartoons=-' Cartoons04:54
monkey89mv: invalid option -- =04:54
monkey89:)04:54
galathalionim a girl help me.. :S04:54
monkey89brb04:54
mofmonkey89, '...'04:54
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SeveasThunder000, running a breezy kernel on hoary is a very bad idea...04:54
somedude_heres one for u mof: "find . -type f ! -iname *.jpg" <-- this works but i want to ad more options to it *.jpeg for example do i have to pipe it?04:55
Seveasgalathalion, we can't help you with the fact you're a girl...04:55
_frank_galathalion: ask your question, if someone can help, they will04:55
galathalioni new that would help04:55
yuckyzwhere can i download a driver for my 3com nic?04:55
Thunder000Seveas: I did an upgrade to breezy.. and i need the newer kernel04:56
Seveasyuckyz, 3com cards should work out of the bocs...04:56
SeveasThunder000, in that case you can simply install linux-686 (intel cpu) linux-k7 (amd) or linux-ppc (mac)04:56
galathalionim trying to watch a dvd on my laptop.. ut it doesnt go any well.. its bumpy04:56
_frank_!dma04:56
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galathalionanyone know what to do?04:56
Seveasgalathalion, enable dma on your dvd player04:56
Seveas!tell galathalion about dma04:56
mofsomedude_, write a script04:56
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galathalionSeveas: how do you do that?04:56
iaphallo04:57
Seveasgalathalion, ubotu just sent you some info04:57
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Thunder000Seveas: linux-686 is the name of the kernel package ?04:57
iapfor one time, i have a big problem. My ubuntu just hangs after gdm login04:57
yuckyzSeveas no it didnt i even tried using live cd and still the same, only in ubuntu that that nic wasnt detected04:57
iapI suspect some dns problem04:57
somedude_mof, haha.. ok.. i thought i could add multiple queries..but thanks! :)04:57
SeveasThunder000, yes04:57
iapI mean some localhost issue and so on.04:57
Seveasyuckyz, very odd, does ifconfig list it04:57
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iaphave you any ideas? that network-admin really pissed me off.04:58
n1xt3rquit04:58
Timmu_ftp://ftp.a-link.com/old/rr10/ << i found roadrunner 10 drivers but they are 4 redhat 7.1 :/ so old kernel..04:58
yuckyznope only loopback or lo Seveas04:58
pybeiap: whats in your /etc/hosts file04:58
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Ngyuckyz: what about "ifconfig -a"04:58
galathalionSeveas: cant u just tell me how to do it? im in a middle of a friggin family movie-night04:58
iappybe: I'll se, a moment04:58
Seveasgalathalion, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd04:58
yuckyzand i even checked the device management the nic wasnt there nor in the dmesg command04:58
Timmu_i go in ubuntu now.. i try get that working :/04:59
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Seveasgalathalion, but that only lasts until you reboot -- read what ubotu sent you if you want to make it permanent04:59
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galathalionSeveas: thats it?04:59
Thunder000Seveas: which kernel version is this ? linux-686 ?04:59
yuckyzi havent tried ifconfig -a but only ifconfig and i assume it should be able to display the nic if recognized04:59
iappybe: coming back from that pc, after 4 minuts it logged in.04:59
Seveasgalathalion, yes04:59
galathalionSeveas: ok.. thank you. ill see if it works. :D04:59
SeveasThunder000, on breezy it's 2.6.12-something04:59
iapx8088pybe04:59
pybeh04:59
iapx8088do you want a cat, o prefer from network-admin05:00
pybewhats the localhost line05:00
galathalionSeveas: i love you05:00
Thunder000Seveas: is there a command or something that shows me the version of the kernel of linux-686 ?05:00
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SeveasThunder000, apt-cache depends linux-68605:00
iapx8088pybe:cat /etc/hosts05:00
iapx8088127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost deviantmind05:00
Seveasthe linux-686 package always depends on the most recent kernel package05:01
pybeiapx8088: thats ok05:01
_frank_Thunder000: uname -a05:01
Thunder000I see05:01
Seveasthat's why it's a good thing to have it installed05:01
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monkey89somedude_, find -name *.jpg -o -name *.jpeg05:01
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NgThunder000: packages.ubuntu.com will let you explore the current repositories05:01
lexmarkis the best way to uninstall gaim is through the synaptic package manager?05:01
pybeiapx8088: whats in /etc/resolv.conf05:01
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iapx8088pybe: this habit started a) when I did the update last night b)I had to quarrel with network-admin.05:01
Seveaslexmark, yes05:01
somedude_aaaaaah.. yes.. thanks! !:)05:02
Seveasmonkey89, -name *.jp*g :)05:02
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Thunder000ok05:02
pybeiapx8088: what was updated lastnight05:02
yuckyzSeveas will the driver used in other linux distro work in ubuntu?05:02
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iapx8088pybe, I'll show you, but I'm wondering if networking-admin is changing those under my *ss. Libpcre was updated.05:02
monkey89hehe, that works too, but you would get .jpBLAHBLAHg as well... not that that ever happens05:02
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Seveasyuckyz, you might need to simply modprobe it05:02
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frogtone25hello05:02
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frogtone25i have a problem05:03
iapx8088pybe, a pastebin is one the way05:03
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derek_excellent thanks frank thats sorted05:03
Ngfrogtone25: ask your question :)05:03
frogtone25does anybody know why the hoary extras server is down05:03
iapx8088pybe, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/163605:03
frogtone25im trying to download java05:03
yuckyzSeveas havent used modprobe and forgot what tht would do, by the way what is the command to detect the devices in fedora it is kudzu i guess, what about in ubuntu?05:03
lexmarkI tried that, I get this msg "the chosen action will affect other packages- the following has to be removed.  Ubuntu-desktop"05:03
dwixsgdsgfsdfgsdg05:03
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frogtone25and it wont let me download it05:03
Seveasyuckyz, modprobe loads the driver05:04
monkey89ack... mailnotification can't do gmail05:04
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yuckyzic05:04
Seveascan you put the output of lspci on the pastebin please05:04
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Ngfrogtone25: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ has a java package, no idea what it's like though05:04
yuckyzdo you think when booting the modprobe is being ran?05:04
Ngfrogtone25: I used the java-package instructions in the wiki05:04
monkey89ooh, there it goes05:04
yuckyzSeveas sorry that box isnt in here. ill paste it tomorrow05:05
SeveasNg, it's a java-package package05:05
NgSeveas: fair enough, it's just impossible to tell atm because world+dog are offering java packages :/05:05
decaffrogtone25: you can download original binary (.bin) from Sun and build your package with make-jpg (from java-package)05:05
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frogtone25how do you do that05:05
frogtone25make-jpg05:05
Thunder000which kernel is most fit for Intel Pentium M 740 Processor (Centrino)? linux-386 or linux-686 ?05:05
Ngfrogtone25: the java page in the ubuntu.com wiki explains it05:06
lexmarkI get this msg when I try to remove gaim "the chosen action will affect other packages- the following has to be removed.  Ubuntu-desktop"05:06
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lexmarkcan anyone help?05:06
dwixshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh05:06
iapx8088Thunder000, I believe linux-38605:06
Nglexmark: gaim is part of the ubuntu desktop05:06
Burgundavialexmark, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package05:06
iapx8088ops05:06
iapx8088Thunder000, the contrary05:06
thoreauputicblech.. lunchpad is excruciatingly slow...05:06
spolalexmark, it doesn't matter05:06
Burgundavialexmark, you can remove ti safely, but it makes upgrades a nightmare05:06
thoreauputic*launchpad05:06
damskowhat i have to do to play .wma files in bmp?05:06
Thunder000iapx8088: you mean linux-686 ?05:07
decaffrogtone25: fakeroot make-jpkg sunjava.bin05:07
iapx8088Thunder000, yes05:07
frogtone25java isnt on the saveas page05:07
Seveasit is05:07
Ngfrogtone25: scroll down to "sun-j2re"05:07
Thunder000ok. thanks05:07
iapx8088Thunder000, I'm using right now -386 with no probs.05:07
Seveasfrogtone25, sun-jre-something05:07
spoladamsko, i figure you'd have to install w32codecs, or (much much better) find a way to convert wma to ogg05:07
Seveasfrogtone25, I sent you a username/password for it in private message05:07
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lexmarkok, I just downloaded the Gaim autopackage 1.5.0 from the Gaim website... thats why I am trying to uninstall the older Gaim that I have05:08
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Thunder000iapx8088: what is your system ?05:08
iapx8088Thunder000, a centrino dothan 1.705:08
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lexmarkI have to uninstall the older Gaim before I can install the newer one from the gaim website right?05:09
Ngprobably05:09
phenlex right05:09
maverickfolk, clicking the gnome help icon gives me this error - "cannot launch icon, failed to execute child process "help" (no such directory or file) "05:09
chris^Hi Guys05:09
maverickpls help05:09
Seveasautopackage packages are evil...05:09
Nglexmark: unless you really have/want to, I'd leave it alone though ;)05:09
phenbut this one works05:09
phen:)05:09
damskospola, ok thanks05:09
lexmarkyou mean the autopackage works phen?05:10
chris^On my Test-PC is running Breezy.. but here is something Broken -> http://pastebin.com/346920 -> Anyone know how 2 fix this? i found nothing with google or on ubuntuforums.org.. i know its developeing, but i want, that my test-pc is running :P05:10
phenyes05:11
JuhazThunder000, iapx8088, both should work okay, but centrino is i686, so it may be bit faster05:11
lexmarkcool05:11
lexmarkthanx05:11
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frogtone25hey seveas does it matter if i download stand java or the the sdk package05:12
Seveasfrogtone25, if you want to compile you need the sdk, otherwise just the jre05:12
frogtone25ok05:12
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Thunder000Juhaz: thanks05:13
frogtone25Seveas:  thanks05:13
slistany idea why gaim send files so slow?05:14
CarlFKdern it... what is the command to add a user to a group?05:14
NgCarlFK: sudo adduser username groupname05:14
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CarlFKI have fogotten this 3 times in the last 6 mopnths05:14
Seveasslist, because the files are sent via the microsoft server...05:14
SeveasCarlFK, adduser user group05:14
CarlFKNg - right.  I knew it was "odd"05:14
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CarlFKthanks Ng and Seveas05:14
Thunder000Breezy installer didn't find my DVDRW ... So i installed Debian Sarge netinstall minimal .. and then upgraded to Breezy .. now upgrading the kernel... hope everthing goes fine05:15
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slistSeveas: so it always sends something like 5kB/s?05:15
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Seveasif you're lucky :)05:15
Thunder000I'm just giving it a try05:16
Thunder000so far so good05:16
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PDanihi05:16
slistSeveas: can you recommend some way to send my files to friends, im behind a router in this machine so it's kind of hard05:16
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Seveasslist, e-mail :)05:17
frogtone25thank you Seveas05:17
PDaniwhen will be the gaim >=1.4 in hoary?05:17
frogtone25i have java05:17
bluefoxicySeveas:  current breezy doesn't work with nvidia?  I have work in 10 minutes so I must leave now, heh.05:17
frogtone25thank you so much05:17
monkey89PDani, probably not.  hoary's released, so its security fixes05:17
monkey89use breezy if you want 1.5 :)05:17
PDanithx05:17
monkey89it might be in backports, i dont know the deal with that05:17
noodleis there a better vnc viewer than "vncviewer"?05:17
monkey89noodle, rdesktop05:18
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noodleok05:18
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monkey89noodle, wait, my bad.  there's a frontend to it - tsclient05:19
monkey89it should come with ubuntu05:19
noodleok05:19
zenroxya ts client is easy to use05:20
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monkey89i always mix them up05:20
frans-thanyone can help me to make ubuntu brand renamed05:20
noodleis there a better vnc server than gnome remote desktop?05:20
somedude_goto go, thanks all for your help! :)05:20
frans-thour goverment agree to make ubuntu become national desktop, formally05:20
frans-thbut of course must use indonesian name05:20
frans-thwe will use pigeon name05:20
frans-thcan help?05:20
monkey89noodle, you might be interested in nxserver, which is a lot faster (but needs a different client)05:21
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noodlemonkey89: hmm ok05:22
Seveasnx is awesome05:22
Seveasfreenx is the open source variant05:22
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DVSoftwareone quick question05:22
uthinihey ppl05:22
noodlewould it work mac to linux and vice versa though?05:22
monkey89Seveas, eh?  where05:22
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Seveasnoodle, don't know about mac actually, check nomachine.com05:23
Seveasmonkey89, it's diabled now ;)05:23
monkey89i stopped using nx because i couldn't find the client, iirc05:23
DVSoftwarei'm running firefox in 32bit chroot here05:23
monkey89i mean, what web client05:23
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DVSoftwarecan somebody tell me name of the java package05:23
Seveasmonkey89, they released the 'nx web companion' a fw weeks ago05:23
monkey89ah05:23
maverickfolk, clicking the gnome help icon gives me this error - "cannot launch icon, failed to execute child process "help" (no such directory or file) " pls help me05:23
uthini!windowsdrives05:23
Seveasit's on nomachines download page05:23
ubotuI guess windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically05:23
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monkey89awesome, thanks much05:23
kiwikiojoin # ubuntu-fr05:23
_frank_DVSoftware: sun-j2re1.505:24
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DVSoftwaretnx05:24
_frank_DVSoftware: install that in the chroot?05:24
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vontrappDVSoftware: this might help: http://von.fugal.net/blog/2004/10/04#java-debian05:24
DVSoftwarei know that :)05:24
DVSoftwareerrm05:25
DVSoftwareE: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.505:25
_frank_DVSoftware: its in backports05:25
DVSoftwareahh05:25
SeveasDVSoftware, debs can be found at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl05:25
_frank_DVSoftware: hoary-extras I think05:25
Seveasbackports no longer has it05:25
_frank_what?05:25
monkey89Seveas, can you use the web companion with freenx?05:25
Seveasvontrapp, that guide is on serious crack05:25
Seveasit's exactly the way NOT to install java..05:25
Seveasmonkey89, yes05:25
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monkey89awesome... i remember now, the reason i didn't use nx was because the client needed to be installed, and i don't have admin privs on my school comps05:26
PDaniis it safe to install the libc6 from breezy with all of the other packages from hoary?05:26
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monkey89this is great, vnc is slooow05:26
SeveasPDani, NO!05:26
NgPDani: if you need to ask, you don't want to replace libc ;)05:26
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vontrappSeveas: it is if you want the newest sun vm05:26
Seveasvontrapp, no way05:26
Ngvontrapp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions05:26
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Ngrandom unpackaged alternatives are a nightmare waiting to happen05:27
_frank_Seveas: its true, backports doesn't have java anymore. Why is that?05:27
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Seveas_frank_, ENOCLUE05:27
DVSoftwareSeveas, can i get user id and pass please :)05:27
janne__Hi all!05:27
SeveasDVSoftware, of course :)05:27
Seveas /msg me the desired user/pass05:27
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janne__How can remove programs in wine?05:27
janne__can i just delete folder05:28
DVSoftwarejanne__, yes05:28
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janne__k....05:28
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janne__does it leave behind scrap files....?05:28
vontrappok, so whenever i upgrade firefox to 1.0.6, the middle click load url feature stops working05:28
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vontrappanyone else experience this?05:28
Seveasvontrapp, which 1.0.6 do you use?05:28
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vontrapp1.0.6-0ubuntu0.105:29
bilbohi: does anyone know if it is possible to turn my laptop with a wireless network card into a wireless access point?05:29
Seveasbilbo, it is05:29
vontrappbilbo: depends on the wireless card05:29
Seveasput your card in maste mode (and install a dhcp server if wanted)05:29
vontrappbut yes, if it has master mode, that will do it05:30
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bilbois there any site with a recipe for that?05:30
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mcrawforhey folks, when trying to compile various things, I get the message:05:30
mcrawforerror: You must have pthreads to compile05:30
mcrawfordoes anyone know what dev library I should get from apt to address this?05:31
lexmarkdoes unbuntu see fat32 partitions?05:31
kiwikioyes05:31
DVSoftwarelittle offtopic question, but does anyone knows some invision power board lyrics addon?05:31
_frank_Seveas: how did you build your java package? what should we say to new users to do to get java installed easily?05:31
Seveasmcrawfor, build-essential should do it05:31
survivorlexmark, yes, there are scripts floating around for it to see both FAT32 and NTFS partitions05:31
Seveaslexmark: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically05:31
lexmarkthats what I thought05:31
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Seveas_frank_, my packages are pure java-package packages05:31
mcrawforSeveas: I'll give that a shot, apt-getting some other software right now05:32
lexmarkjust another question.... why are ppl still using windows when OS like unbuntu are available?05:32
lexmarklol05:32
Seveas_frank_, but most new users don't understand java-package or want to do the hassle :)05:32
DVSoftwarelexmark, 'cos they're stupid :D05:32
mcrawforSeveas: wonderful, that did it... well, got to the next library i need ;)05:32
Seveaslexmark, why is bush still president of the US ;)05:32
mcrawforI love new installs05:32
mjbuninkGaming ofcourse. It doesn't matter if that locks up05:33
ubuntuguyinstalling Java is easy: just download the bin file, run it, and set your path correctly05:33
Seveasubuntuguy, that's the bad way of doing it...05:33
Ngubuntuguy: having it in a proper package is better05:33
DVSoftwaremjbunink, i play games on my ubuntu box05:33
lexmarkyeah, thats what I thought... only reason I installed unbuntu is to learn some linux.. didnt expect this to be this easy05:33
Seveaslexmark, disappointed? ;)05:33
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Seveastry gentoo if you want to have a hard time ;)05:33
lexmarkof course I have not mastered command line parameters yet05:34
Ngor turn X off :)05:34
lexmarkbut I think most ppl can handle Linux05:34
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lexmarkor unbuntu05:34
uthinierm Seveas, how is it possible, that yesterday i managed to mount and read a drive, but today, after i formatted the system drive (not the drive i'm trying to read) i cannot find any data on the drive? i know i messed up the partitiontable, is it possible to correct the partition table, or will that scramble the data on the drive?05:34
mjbuninkDVSoftware, what? Solitaire? pingu? xbill? ;)05:34
PDanihow can i build gaim with apt-get from breezy with hoary deps?05:34
ubuntuguyseveas: why is that bad? what's wrong with it?05:34
PDaniwith apt-get or some dpkg tools05:34
Seveasubuntuguy, it does not integrate cleanly in your system, making removing/upgrading tough05:34
Seveasbelieve me, I tried it :)05:35
survivorlexmark: Sure, they can handle it. But they can't handle being disconnected from all their loved software.05:35
Seveasand don't even think about having 2 java versions installed :D05:35
uthinii'm having issues with apt-get, its not finding headers05:35
NgSeveas: you can have loads of java vms installed, I have at least 3 :)05:35
survivor(Like me.)05:35
uthiniand if i leave it running, when i come back my system is very very quite05:35
deFryskubuntuguy, debfiles wont recognise the java you installed so it can couse problems during install of some package05:35
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Seveasuthini, please elaborate a bit more about the disk problem, output of fdisk -l and the name of the failing drive would help05:35
SeveasNg, with debfiles it's easy indeed :)05:36
DVSoftwaremjbunink, cedega can run a lot of windows games05:36
vontrappthat's why you set the alternatives and install the dummy-virtual-machine05:36
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NgSeveas: absolutely, I would always recommend that way if at all possible :)05:36
survivorI tried converting to Linux once, together with my whole family. Setting up Linux wasn't even hard back then.05:36
Seveasvontrapp, bull05:36
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ubuntuguyseveas: incorrect, in this case. All the files are in one directory. You want to remove java just rm that dir. as far as integration is concerned, setting the path is the only thing that needs to be done, with a deb package or without.05:36
Seveasdon't do the hassle if there's a *clean* way of doing it05:36
survivorBut it's what comes afterwards that matters...05:36
mjbuninkcedega? Don't you mean wine?05:36
Seveasubotu, incorrect :)05:36
ubotuSeveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:36
Seveasubuntuguy, incorrect :)05:36
Seveasjava installers install stuff in /etc and /usr/share too05:37
ubuntuguyseveas: how so?05:37
Seveasjava installers install stuff in /etc and /usr/share too <-- that's how05:37
mjbuninkDVSoftware, a quick google later I see I have to apologise ;)05:37
uthiniSeveas, /dev/hdb1   *           1       10011    80413326    7  HPFS/NTFS05:37
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uthinibut Seveas, there are sub partitions.05:37
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mjbuninkDVSoftware, does it work well for you?05:38
ubuntuguyseveas: I don't think that's true with the bin file, but I will check. Thanks for the info.05:38
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DVSoftwaremjbunink, well, i've played a lot of games05:38
Seveasubuntuguy, it's true :)05:38
janne__how i can remove directory full of files....?05:38
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deFryskjanne__, rm -rf05:38
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DVSoftwarefar cry, hl2, nfsu1/2, flatout, wc3, starcraft, wow, anarchy online, settlers 5...05:38
uthiniSeveas, i dl'ed sleuth recovery, but i don't have enough disk space to create an image of the drive05:38
janne__oh...thanks!05:38
deFryskjanne__, rm -rf <directory>05:39
deFryskto be more specific05:39
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uthiniDVSoftware, did u play nfsu2 on linux?05:39
DVSoftwareyep05:39
_frank_Seveas: the backport problems are only temporary I think. you still can download manually at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ the hoary-extras packages05:39
uthiniDVSoftware, i'm having troubles with it, can you help me please?05:39
DVSoftwareuthini, you need cedega and installer from loki05:39
vontrappSeveas: i don't recall the jdk installer putting anything anywhere except the directory i ran it in, but it _has_ been a long time05:39
janne__Thanks very much deFrysk....job done =)05:39
uthiniDVSoftware, it's installed already, but it won't run05:40
DVSoftwarethen you need no-cd patch05:40
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uthiniDVSoftware, r u certain? it doesn't mention the CD issue, should i get the no-cd patch regardless? it just freezes @ the splash screen05:40
PDanidoes the dpkg-buildpackage apply the patches on the source?05:41
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DVSoftwareuthini, try with no cd patch05:41
janne__bye!05:41
DVSoftwareit worked flawlessly here (with no cd patch)05:41
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vontrappi take it nobody has the middle click problem with firefox? i was hoping someone might know how to fix it05:42
deFryskvontrapp, middleclick in firefox open link in net tab for me05:43
Ngvontrapp: it still works fine for me after upgrading. maybe disable the option and re-enable it? or try a new firefox user profile?05:43
thoreauputiccan anyone confirm that https://launchpad.net/ is currently b0rked ?05:43
slisthow can i burn iso dvd file with nautilus?05:43
deFryskdid I type that ?05:43
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monkey89slist, right click the iso, "burn image"05:43
Ngthoreauputic: it loads here05:44
uthiniDVSoftware, i think my computer is biased against me :P05:44
deFryskvontrapp, middleklick in firefox opens link in new tab for me05:44
slistmonkey89: haha thanks :D05:44
thoreauputicNg: :/05:44
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vontrappno, not middle clicking a link, but middle click (pasting) the clipboard to the content to load the url in the clipboard05:44
PDani  libgnutls11-dev: Depends: libgnutls11 (= 1.0.16-13) but 1.0.16-13ubuntu0.1 is to be installed05:44
DVSoftwareuthini, did you tried no cd?05:44
thoreauputicNg: I just get an error message05:44
blackpearli need help... i dont have any user in sudoers group05:44
uthiniDVSoftware, i'm in south africa, you gotta give it time to download05:44
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blackpearlpls help me05:44
PDaniany idea?05:44
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Ngthoreauputic: what kind of error?05:44
blackpearlhow do i log in as sudo05:44
blackpearlroot05:45
Ngblackpearl: boot into rescue mode and you get a root shell05:45
deFrysk! sudo05:45
ubotufrom memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:45
DVSoftwareuthini, 56k?05:45
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vontrappblackpearl: it should have added the first user you created during install to the sudoers group05:45
thoreauputicaha! it just loaded on the umpteenth try05:45
uthiniDVSoftware, 128K05:45
Ngthoreauputic: :)05:45
blackpearlyes, but i changed that my mistake05:45
DVSoftwarewell i have 64k in serbia :)05:45
blackpearlhow do i enable it now ?05:45
DVSoftwarehere in czech republic05:45
Subson1xare there any good ubuntu blogs out there? my rss feed needs fresh ubuntu information :)05:45
DVSoftwarei have 100mbits05:46
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vontrappblackpearl: do the rescue thing suggested then05:46
blackpearlafter going into rescue mode, how shld i proceed ?05:46
mjbuninkQ for any Ubuntu developer present: What was the reason for making dbl-click the top border of a window (un)max a window? Why not stay with the roll-up?05:47
vontrappadduser <user> <admin>05:47
jacobCan anybondy help? I can't find winbind in the package list for Unbuntu 5.04, also apt-get install winbind gets me package not found error.  Is there another name for winbind?05:47
frans-thanyone have try canon scanner in ubuntu, ?? anyone know how to setup TWAIn in linux?05:47
deFryskvontrapp, pasting works fine here05:47
Ngblackpearl: "adduser username admin" where "username" is the user you want to have sudo access05:47
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blackpearlokie thanks05:47
medamaybecan anyone tell me where I can change the " default application"  for a certain filetype?05:47
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Ngmedamaybe: right click on the file, choose properties and it's the "open with" tab05:48
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medamaybeNg, ok, but what if I want to change it for a lot of filetypes?05:48
medamaybeI mean...I saw a list somewhere, just can't remember where I saw it05:49
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vontrappwell, there's the mailcap, not sure how many programs use it anymore05:49
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lexmarkI just ran the script that detects fat32 and ntfs..but when I go to "computer" I only see file system that lists the unbuntu files05:49
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DrSpin!repositories05:49
ubotufrom memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:49
lexmarkI should be able to see at least fat32 files05:50
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lexmarkmight be going to the wrong place, is it under "computer"05:50
Ngmedamaybe: afair they are stored as gconf keys05:50
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spiralhi05:51
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monkey89does anyone know where to get libXp.so.6 on breezy05:52
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Ngmonkey89: according to packages.ubuntu.com you want libxp605:53
monkey89not in the breezy repos, afaik05:53
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m0rphxhi05:54
Ngmonkey89: no idea then, packages.ubuntu.com is clearly wrong05:54
salkinmjbunink: system-preferences-windows titlebar action will let you change from maximize to roll-up05:54
m0rphxis rhythmbox crashing for someone else on breezy?05:54
monkey89no, i think its right for hoary05:54
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monkey89but maybe it's part of the x11 split05:54
frogtone25i have a question05:54
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frogtone25whats the name of that theme for ubuntu that looks like mac os x05:55
frogtone25you can get it from synaptic05:55
Subson1xKroller05:55
salkinm0rphx: I talked someone through a breezy install the other night and his rhythmbox also would vanish05:55
namElEzhelp i installed ubuntu+grub it said it will boot to ubuntu now but it booted to windows wtf?05:55
DrSpinare there any working hoary-extras or hoary-backports servers -- Apt just IGN mirrormax and PLANETMIRROR05:55
spolayeah i had the same thing, segfaults with rythmbox05:55
spolait had something to do with an invalid ogg file i think, cuz when i deleted it eevrything was AOK05:56
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namElEzno one help?05:57
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PDaniwhere can i find ubuntu breezy-to-hoary backports?05:57
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vontrappnamElEz: does it give you multiple options when you boot?05:57
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namElEzno strait to windows05:57
namElEzjust like always05:57
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vontrappdid you get a grub screen at all?05:57
namElEzno05:57
m0rphxspola: mine crashes right on startup05:58
spolanamElEz, did you (re)install windows after installing ubuntu?05:58
namElEzwhy the hell would i done that05:58
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spolam0rphx, try opening it in a terminal and see what happens05:58
vontrappwhen you installed grub did you install it to the MBR or just to the partition?05:58
DrSpinAPT-get update will "IGN" both the planetmirror and mirrormax haroy-extras and hoary-backports -- any clue why or how I can fix it??05:58
namElEzi dunno it just asked do i want to install it05:58
namElEzi pressed yes it said it was safe05:58
m0rphxspola: crashes right after [0x80f6b38]  [rb_shell_construct]  rb-shell.c:822 (17:58:46): Constructing shell05:59
marcinhi all05:59
monkey89k, this will probably break something but im installing it from the hoary package05:59
salkinm0rphx: my rbox will come up. No audio files on this machine to test with though. Breezy current05:59
marcinI got a question - I need to fix some broken ntfs partition05:59
namElEzi have windows on sata drive and ubuntu on ide does it mater05:59
DrSpin!java05:59
ubotuI guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:59
marcinand I would like to scan this hdd and find bad blocks or something06:00
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vontrappnamElEz: yeah, it's probably booting off the sata drive first, and grub would be on the ide06:00
marcinis there any linux tool to scan hdd with ntfs partition?06:00
namElEzso i need to change bootdrive on bios?06:00
Subson1xare there any good ubuntu blogs out there?06:00
salkinSubson1x: planet.ubuntu.com06:00
spolam0rphx, well that's a bit beyond me ... try temporarely moving you configuration to a seperate location and restarting it, if that doesn't fix it i'd file a bug06:00
vontrappnamElEz: if you can do that, then yes06:00
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namElEzi go and try06:00
m0rphxspola: yep, tried that. still crashes06:01
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vontrappdoes hoary have alsa 1.0.9 yet?06:01
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m0rphxvolvoguy: yes06:02
m0rphxaeh, s/volvoguy/vontrapp/06:02
franco64greats to everyone06:03
spolam0rphx, file a bug :)06:03
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vontrappm0rphx: awesome06:03
thehil If sum and size are int value, does (float)sum/(float)size calculate their quotient?06:03
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franco64my first couple of weeks with the ubuntu distro06:03
franco64not bad06:03
m0rphxspola: I looked at the changelog right now, I think it's already fixed in cvs06:04
m0rphxfranco64: that's cool06:04
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franco64well i am still a little novice on the linux  at the moment and a friend of mine said top try this06:05
franco64i had the fedora discs but i do not want another redhat linux type06:06
franco64i think it's better to get to the dirty stuff and learn the coding method of installation06:07
bytefooooooh06:07
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bytefooi hit ctrl+c while doing a dist-upgrade >_<06:07
bytefoothat's not gonna be good :X06:07
vontrappbytefoo: i think you should be fine if you just run it again06:07
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bytefoosays dpkg is locked :-/06:08
m0rphxtry dpkg --configure -a06:08
m0rphxor something like that06:08
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franco64 can anyone help me getting clamav showing as a app on the applications option06:09
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franco64i have it installed and works fine in the back ground06:09
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janne__how can i make short cuts to files....like game what im playing in root and using wine to open it?06:09
spolahmm i downloaded a file and i don't know what it is, when i file it it says "data"06:11
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janne__can someone help me to make shortcut? To wine game....06:12
WinuxHello06:12
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WinuxCan anybody help me?06:12
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andydavidhola mundo06:13
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WinuxDoes anybody know how to create a second user?06:13
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franco64well u can use the ln -s command to make a symlink06:13
franco64if u want any info on ubuntu i would recommand going to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/06:14
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franco64Winux: has what u want06:14
qt2err, is thre a way to restore the default permissions of a certain directory?06:15
ivoksqt2: which one?06:15
qt2someone at my house somehow managed to chmod my /etc dir... <.<;06:15
franco64janne__ u see my commant on creating a symlink06:15
andydavidnadie habla espanol aqui06:15
ivoksqt2: chown root:root /etc06:15
ivoksqt2: chmod 755 /etc06:15
qt2thanks ;)06:16
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qt2ivoks, is that recursive?06:16
ivoksqt2: no06:16
Masterkongwhat's the best music and movie players for linux?06:16
qt2because i'm pretty sure the command used was chown -R06:17
ivoksheh06:17
ivoksreinstall :)06:17
maeMasterkong, the most tried and true ones would be either mplayer or xine .. youll also need libdvdread3 and libdvdcss for playing dvd's and the win32 codecs to play various non-free codecs06:18
Malin`does ubuntu have php installed by default?06:18
ivoksno06:18
maeno06:18
maephp sucks06:18
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mae:)06:18
Malin`thx06:18
ivokspython rulz06:18
maepython s'ok06:18
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frisbeboyfaster than php?06:18
DrSpinSun's Java download page is hosed06:18
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maefrisbeboy, speed really isn't the issue, the issue is that php is not good for large projects it gets really sloppy06:19
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f_newtonSeveas, are you around?06:19
Subson1xmae: what is better? JSP`06:19
frisbeboymae: what do you mean?06:19
DrSpinmae: any coded program gets sloppy --06:19
Xenguybetter for what?06:19
DrSpinlook at Xfree8606:19
DrSpin;)06:19
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haakonnsloppy? it's more that the code becomes hard to maintain :)06:20
f_newtonhow about thoreauputic ?06:20
frisbeboyaaa mm06:20
maeSubson1x, JSP is O.K. python is pretty good, ruby on rails is good, they use fully object oriented languages.. (well python.. almost)06:20
salkinSubson1x: common lisp06:20
f_newton!partitioning06:20
ubotuf_newton: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:20
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namElEzit started ubuntu06:20
f_newtonI need to partition a dual boot box...\06:20
cobbHello, I thought usermod -G added groups to a user. Next time I will remember to include previous groups the user was member of. At least groups needed for sudo. Ok, thanks06:20
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namElEzbut it when it tried to read cd it complained about I/O error on hda06:21
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namElEzthen some package handling program started06:21
Subson1xmae: but JSP only if you make use of netbeans, the plain JSP is similar to PHP, isn't it?06:21
salkinSubson1x: check out http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/06:21
f_newtonI am sure how to do that with the partitioner available with ubuntu06:21
maeOff i go to have some all-bran cereal to make me more regular06:21
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namElEzand i acccidently exited it06:21
f_newton!dual boot06:21
ubotuf_newton: What?06:21
namElEzhow do i get ubuntu to graphic interface06:22
f_newton!installation06:22
ubotuf_newton: No idea06:22
f_newtonyeah06:22
f_newtongreat06:22
thenukenamElEz: startx06:22
namElEzdidnt work06:22
maeSubson1x, err, netbeans is an IDE.. plain JSP still uses Java which is object oriented, PHP is a "quick and dirty" abominiation/combination of perl/c syntax with less features06:22
namElEzso the installation didnt complete06:22
thenukereboot06:22
DrSpinnamElEz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:22
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Subson1xmae: i meant javabeans, sorry06:22
namElEzbut how can i complete installation06:23
franco64namElez; what did u install KDE or Gnome06:23
DrSpinnamElEz: are you in the installer now?06:23
namElEzno im in windows06:23
maeSubson1x, hehe well still even without the beans, java is still a bit better than php, but you can't beat php for quick and dirty stuff06:23
f_newtonDrSpin, do you know where i can find out how to dual boot a win/ubuntu box?06:23
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DrSpinnamElEz: when you boot to linux it just comes up to a prompt ?06:23
maebut long-term maintainability, it sucks :)06:23
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DrSpinf_newton: yes wiki.ubuntu.com06:23
f_newtonthanks06:23
Subson1xmae: but i thought the new version of php is fully object orientated?06:23
DrSpinf_newton: np06:24
salkinSubson1x: oriented06:24
cobbcan someone please run id and tell me which groups their primary (sudo-able) account is a member off?06:24
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namElEzwhen i booted 1st time to ubuntu it asked for ubuntu cd i put it in and press enter. it said something about I/O errors on hda and put me in some packga handling program06:24
maeSubson1x, I am not sure about the new version.. version 6? .. well it might be but if it is, it is just _now_ achieving that :)06:24
Subson1xmae: hehe, ok :)06:24
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uthiniDVSoftware, it worked, the no CD patch, kinda dumb tho, i buy the game ligitimately now i gotta crack it :) its like Maya, maya is easier to crack than to license LOL06:25
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namElEzi accidentaly quited it i didnt know what to do with it06:25
DrSpinadm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin cole musicfiles06:25
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ivokswho's for a game of njam?06:25
sdfgHi everybody.. I need some help :) trying to install 5.04 on a brand new PC (with serial ATA), and it hangs for ever on the "configuring main archive" screen... heeeeelp :(06:25
DrSpinsudo nano -w /etc/suders06:25
DrSpinand put your username in there06:25
salkincobb:  groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(my username)06:25
cobbuthini: Easier to crack by yourself or by others? hehe ;-)06:25
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cobbsalkin: Thank you a bunch06:25
ivoksno one?06:25
ivoks:(06:25
salkincobb: np06:25
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funkyHatcan i make screen start up automatically when i open a terminal/log into a terminal?06:26
uthinilol cobb, its easier to use a cracked version than to license the software properly, found that out at college06:26
namElEzso theres no solution for me?06:26
maeSubson1x, don't get me wrong, theres some good stuff written in php, like that forum i forgot its name.. but i am not a glutton for punishment like that :)06:26
sdfgso is it possible to install 5.04 on a 80GB serail ATA system ?06:26
DrSpinnamElEz: saving you some heartache -- I would just restart the installer...06:26
sdfgserial ATA06:26
funkyHati'm guessing i add something to ~/.bashrc but i don't understand the layout of it06:26
ivoksnamElEz: your CD is dirty06:26
namElEzso i need to reinstall ubuntu?06:26
maephpbb06:26
DrSpinnamElEz: if it doesn't work -- syre06:26
Subson1xmae: phpbb is one big security hole :)06:27
Subson1xvbulletin is good, but commercial06:27
namElEzdamn this sucks06:27
funkyHatSubson1x, what about phpbb with php safe mode enabled?06:27
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sdfgplease anyboy. any idea why my ubuntu install hangs forever ????????06:28
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unk^lapI LOVE UBUNTU :D06:28
Subson1xfunkyHat: depends on the provider, most users have no influence on that06:28
tronicasame here06:28
sdfgso do I, that's why I'm trying to install it06:28
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maesdfg, try this on the boot prompt: "linux pci=noacpi noapic nolapic"06:28
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funkyHatcan anyone aswer my question about screen? ^06:28
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sdfgmae.. thanks a million.. will try this06:29
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namElEzdo i need to delete ubuntu partitons before reinstalling?06:29
_frank_DrSpin: you still there?06:29
_[MUPPETS] Gonzoformat them, this should be enough :)06:29
_frank_Seveas: the backport problems are only temporary I think. you still can download manually at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ the hoary-extras packages06:29
DrSpin_frank_: ???06:30
_frank_DrSpin: you can download java there06:30
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namElEzhow do i format them lol windows cant format them to ext3 or swap06:30
sdfgmae do you think it has something to do with serial ATA ? looks like he found the disk correctly06:30
_frank_DrSpin: and install with dpkg06:30
maesdfg, i don't know, it depends where it freezes on install06:31
maesdfg, did that line not help?06:31
DrSpin_frank_: as soon as I read manual download I was on it :)06:31
funkyHatnamElEz, you can do it in the installer06:31
DrSpin_frank_: thanks06:31
DrSpinbecause the SUN download page won't load -- it just sits there  LOL06:31
namElEzohh ill try with other dvd drive then06:31
_frank_DrSpin: its annoying when things that should work don't!06:31
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DrSpinnamElEz: WinXP works VERY well with EXT2FSD -- +RW and has a mkefs -j utility :)06:32
mr06:32
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DrSpinmr: That guy says some astounding things :S LOL06:33
monkey89ah, gnome games 2.11 is SO nice06:33
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monkey89minesweeper is easier, solitaire is fixed up06:34
monkey89considering that i spend 90% of my time there, its nice :)06:34
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benjamin1254my browser keeps on shutting down on me06:34
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benjamin1254i open it and it quits on me few min later06:35
monkey89benjamin1254, try running it in a terminal to see what it crashes on06:35
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benjamin1254how?06:35
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monkey89benjamin1254, Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal, then "firefox"06:35
c0rrupt_lmao06:35
monkey89then if/when it crashes, there will probably be an error message in the terminal window06:35
DrSpinhooray for JAVA06:35
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_jefffunkyHat: I don't know if you got the last thing I said since my internet connection went down06:36
benjamin1254terminal termintated for an unknown reason when i started it up06:36
DrSpin!audio06:36
ubotuDrSpin: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:36
DrSpin!burn06:36
ubotuDrSpin: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:36
funkyHat_jeff, looks like i didn't06:36
DrSpin!audioCD06:36
ubotuDrSpin: I don't know, could you explain it?06:36
SeveasDrSchlauf, don't play with it06:36
SeveasDrSpin*06:36
_jeffDon't put it in .bashrc, since screen starts up bash06:36
\dev\goathooray for super fast page transitions in deerpark alpha 2 !~06:36
monkey89benjamin1254, sounds like you have some bigger problem if terminal doesn't run... i dont know06:36
DrSpinwhat does #ubuntu reccomend to burn audio CD's for MP3, OGG, AAC06:36
monkey89DrSpin, serpentine?06:37
h08817i have a problem starting linux06:37
DrSpinnever even heard of it06:37
Seveasgraveman/gnomebaker/k3b06:37
monkey89it comes w/ breezy, don't know about hoary06:37
_jeffAnd infinite recursion isn't fun.06:37
h08817i have ubuntu06:37
Seveasand for breezy: serpentine06:37
_jeff If you're using the gnome terminal, go to file and create a new profile.06:37
adriyel___jeff GNU's Not Unix :P06:37
_frank_DrSpin: java worked?06:37
DrSpingnomebaker doesn't work -- libao "do you have write permissions" so I chmoded it but doesn't fix it06:37
DrSpin_frank_: yup06:37
monkey89Seveas, btw, i tried getting nxplugin - when I try running the applet on this computer, it dies :(06:37
DrSpinjava-version06:37
monkey89and nxclient hard locks trying to connect to localhost06:38
DrSpinjava version "1.5.0_04"06:38
monkey89i have to check it out downstairs06:38
Seveasmonkey89, talk to me later about that, have to go dogwalking now06:38
monkey89ok, bye06:38
h08817i get a t3-fs error ext3_find_entry: reading directory #655393 0[fail] 106:38
sdfgmae.. stragely it freezes on the "preparring main archive for install" line (or something like that) (french translation...)06:38
h08817then it tells me to run fsck manually06:38
_frank_DrSpin: great maybe now I should upgrade mine, don't know what has changed since _02 though06:38
h08817what does it mean?06:38
shamusI just downloaded and isntalled a bittorrent .deb, how do I run the program?06:38
monkey89shamus, dpkg -i whatever.deb06:38
monkey89hope its legal :)06:39
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maesdfg, which cd are you using?06:39
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h08817do u think reinstalling ubuntu will fix my problem?06:39
sdfgmae ISO install CD 5.0406:39
shamusmonkey89, I've already installed it, i want to run the program itself06:39
monkey89shamus, depends on what the .deb is, see what files it installed in synaptic06:39
_frank_shamus: what bt client is it?06:39
maehrmm06:39
sdfgmae it worked no problem on my old PC.. seems like this new hardware makes trouble06:39
DrSpinoooh Graveman is MUCH nicer than last time I used it06:40
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shamus_frank_, bittorrent; it was the only one I could find for linux, besides Azureus.. which for some reason won't run06:40
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h08817any developers in here right now?06:40
maesdfg, what chipset?06:40
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storrQUESTION - How do I export the address book from Evolution? /usr/lib/2.2/evolution-addressbook-export --format=csv does not work and Openoffice data source 'addressbook' displays blank valuses. tnks!06:41
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h08817i can't even get into ubuntu06:42
DekaPinkDoes gunzip delete the file it was extracting from after it finishes extracting? :306:42
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nightswimDekaPink: yes06:42
h08817i could yesterday but now i can't06:42
_frank_shamus: azureus works for me. Also bittornado is in synaptic06:42
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reagenthi06:42
monkey89doesn't ubuntu come with a torrent client on hoary06:42
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DrSpinLOL06:42
DrSpin"cannot open input file (NULL)06:43
reagentI must be stupid, but I can't find the ubuntu netinstall images...06:43
h08817monkey89: yes06:43
DrSpink3b i is06:43
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SymGeosisIs anybody else having problems installing flash, lame, Sun JRE or mjpegtools from the repos? apt-cache can't find them nor can synaptic.06:43
DrSpindoes k3b still require root permissions to work??06:43
monkey89SymGeosis, did you add multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list06:43
SymGeosismonkey89, I have.06:43
monkey89SymGeosis, and ran apt-get update?  apologies if this is obvious06:43
DrSpinSymGeosis: the backports and extras servers are having problems ---06:44
SymGeosismonkey89 yes. (it is but I don't mind as you're trying to help)06:44
monkey89different thing, you shouldnt need that for at least flash/lame06:44
SymGeosisDrSpin, I see. Thanks.06:44
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monkey89SymGeosis, flashplayer-mozilla doesn't exist?06:44
DrSpinSymGeosis: you can get em from the mirrormax server as a downloaded .deb and then install with dpkg -i FILE.deb06:44
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franco64symgeosis: have u added the extra repo06:45
Malin`how can i uninstall a program i installed from .tar.gz file?06:45
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SymGeosismonkey89, Negative. I imported the sources.lst first from my other Ubuntu box and then Ubuntuguide which includes mirrormax, neither of them work.06:45
DrSpinis there a program that will burn cd's without ROOT privelages -- this is getting rediculous06:45
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SymGeosisfranco64, Affirmative.06:45
monkey89Malin`: if it was a ./configure/make/make install, a make uninstall or maybe deinstall from the directory should work06:45
Jhairwould an installation from netinstall images only be successful if you can connect to a DHCP server?06:45
SymGeosisI even added the new official backport server.06:45
h08817what is fsck06:45
alex_hey what can I use to listen to a oggvorbis stream06:45
Malin`thanks monkey8906:46
DrSpinSymGeosis: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/06:46
Subson1xh08817: a filesystem check06:46
Subson1xman fsck06:46
monkey89SymGeosis, that's very odd then... I'm on breezy, so I don't know if it's a hoary specific problem, but i have flash no problem here.  sorry06:46
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h08817Subson1x: well i have a problem and i can't get into ubuntu06:46
SymGeosisI got this after a clean install. I used the same sources list that I had before so it's really strange.06:46
alex_anyone has an idea or should I install XMs ?06:46
franco64strange becuase i run apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it works fine for me06:47
franco64have all those apps that u mention working on my system06:47
reagentcan anyone tell me where I can find the ubuntu netinstall images?06:47
SymGeosisI even copied exactly what ubuntuguide has which has worked before in the past so I don't know what's up.06:47
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sdfgmae via vt630706:48
h08817Subson1x: i get a t3-fs error ext3_find_entry: reading directory #655393 0[fail] 106:48
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h08817Subson1x: then it says run fsck manually and it crashes06:48
franco64u might have to recompile some programs06:48
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Belutz!fonts06:49
ubotuI heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto06:49
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clubwinsbojour06:49
Belutzthx ubotu06:49
Subson1xh08817: boot with a rescue cd and start fsck manually06:49
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h08817Subson1x: with the cd which i installed ubuntu?06:50
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benjamin1254hey this is wha i get in root terminal for when firefox dies out06:50
benjamin1254*** loading the extensions datasource06:50
benjamin1254*** loading the extensions datasource06:50
benjamin1254Segmentation fault06:50
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monkey89segfault=bad06:50
monkey89as to why its happening... hmm06:50
openBackhi, I copied all of /usr to another partition, and am using that as /usr now, but I'm wondering what the best way to delete the file in the original /usr is06:50
catfoxdoes anyone know if oggenc has any option to speed up encoding? it's quite slow compared to lame with "preset fast standard" option06:50
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shamusHow can I make a .torrent file ?06:51
DrSpinlmfao -- k3b is the ONLY burning application that will work without root privelages06:51
benjamin1254shamus why would u need 2?06:51
maesdfg, hrmm.. well look at the help on bootup and see what else they reccomend for crashing or maybe via chipsets06:51
DrSpinthat blows my mind06:51
maei think its like f5 or something06:51
decafshamus: use azureus for all bittorrent needs06:51
DrSpinoh and t freezes mid burn :/06:52
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franco64i would love to use azureus but it will not work for me06:53
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benjamin1254mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search06:53
Fish-FaceIs it possible to tell apt that a broken package isn't?06:53
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storrQuestion - Evolution Addressbook. Howto export the data. Any ideas?06:54
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maesdfg, did you check the integrity of your cd?06:54
jepeltwhello all. I'm trying to install ndiswrapper 1.2 from source. I installed the kernel-source-2.6.10 package and linked /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10, but make reports that the directory does not contain the kernel source06:54
mc_flurryiros todos a tomar por culo i'm spanish06:54
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shamusdecaf, I installed Azureus but I'm getting an error when trying to run it, unknown source over and over in the terminal. I get the spalsh screen and that's it06:55
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reagentwell now I understand why so many people are asking ubuntu questions in #debian... being simply ignored is not very nice...06:55
c0rrupt_how can you run something in a terminal in a daemon type mode even though its not daemonized06:56
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monkey89reagent - maybe no one knows?06:56
benjamin1254mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search06:56
monkey89what's your question again06:56
c0rrupt_so it returns to the prompt with the process still running in the backround06:56
reagentmonkey89: so how do you install ubuntu then...06:56
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reagentmonkey89: I'm looking for the netinstall images...06:56
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openBackc0rrupt_: add & to the end of the command06:56
JBEI'm trying to install Sylpheed-Claws-1.0.4 from Universe.06:57
decafshamus: can you paste it to #flood or pastebin ?06:57
monkey89reagent, ftp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/06:57
monkey89nothing a quick google can06:57
monkey89can't fix06:57
JBE However, when I type 'sudo apt-get install -f sylpheed-claws=1.0.4-1 libc6>=2.3.4-1 sylpheed-claws-i18n=1.0.4-1' the only message is "E: Broken packages"06:57
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monkey89reagent, and a howto here http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=7106:57
Deterministreagent, being lazy doesnt give you the right to criticize. people here do what they do because they want to. no one owes you anything.06:57
reagentmonkey89: great, thank you06:58
monkey89no problem06:58
c0rrupt_thanks!06:58
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reagentDeterminist: I googled for it06:58
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shamus!paste06:58
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:58
monkey89"ubuntu netinstall", first result06:58
monkey89hehe06:58
DrSpinunmaskIRQ -- CD burning works much better06:58
Deterministi rest my case.06:58
monkey89just replace warty with hoary on the page06:58
openBackhi, I copied all of /usr to another partition, and am using that as /usr now, but I'm wondering what the best way to delete the file in the original /usr is06:59
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reagentmonkey89: well ok ubuntu netinstall image not first result06:59
monkey89the fourth one :)06:59
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monkey89im just kidding around, but googling for a while generally helps06:59
shamusdecaf, here's a big chunk of the errors http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/163706:59
Tortelhow do i log in as the root user?07:00
Tortel:P07:00
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benjamin1254mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search07:00
monkey89Tortel: any reason why sudo doesn't work07:00
reagentmonkey89: well I got 504 results for ubuntu netinstall image so I guessed there were no netinstall images at all...07:00
cyprinushow to extract .bin file?07:00
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Tortelsudo?07:00
Tortelsorry, im new with linux07:00
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monkey89Tortel, sure.  if you want to run a command as root, prefix it with "sudo"07:01
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Torteloh07:01
monkey89then just enter your password and it runs as root07:01
monkey89part of the ubuntu philosophy is not to need the root user07:01
apokryphosubotu: tell Tortel about sudo07:01
monkey89!sudo07:01
ubotusudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:01
monkey89:)07:01
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cyprinuscan anyone advise me? 'bout .bin's?07:01
monkey89.bin's are usually self-executables.  chmod +x whatever.bin, ./whatever.bin07:02
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_frank_shamus: how did you install azureus and java?07:02
cyprinusthx07:02
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Deterministanyone here ever tried NX?07:03
Deterministis it any better than VNC?07:03
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reagentmonkey89: The link to the ftp archive is for netboot, not netinstall07:03
franco64_frank_: for java i use the following apt-get install sun-j2re1.507:03
alex_excuse me but I am not sure where you specifiy the mountpoint in the conf file or in the source client ?07:03
monkey89Determinist, much better, but it needs a client installed (not just running vncview)07:03
qt2err, is thre a way to restore the default permissions of everything recursivly in my /etc directory?07:03
maeDeterminist, for low bandwidth-connections definitely, yes07:03
monkey89reagent, oh... but the howto mentions netinstall, doesn't it?07:04
spolapainless p2p in ubuntu, is it possible yet?07:04
thoreauputicSeveas: OK nothing I do seems capable of convincing launchpad that I have signed the CoC - despite following directions. You *might* say I'm thoroughly pissed off with launchpad... Of course no doubt *I'm* at fault :/07:04
shamus_frank_, apt-get to install java and followed azureus' instructioons, I believe all they said was untar, cd and run ./azureus .. which is what i'm doing07:04
Deterministmae, for a connection with 16kbps upload?07:04
monkey89reagent, by netinstall... do you mean doing stuff like that, or do you just want it to install packages from the repositories instead of the cdrom?07:04
medamaybehow do I kill a crashed process (xmms is crashing :/)07:04
Deterministthat's bytes, not bits :)07:04
reagentmonkey89: yes, but I think it means netboot :). Anyway I'll look at the files and maybe it's even possible to pack them together on a cdrom07:04
maeDeterminist, Kb or KB07:04
monkey89Determinist, well, vs. VNC, yes07:04
maeoh ya, no problem07:04
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maeit can do good overa  modem connection07:04
Deterministmedamaybe, ps ax | grep <name of program> then killall name of program07:05
reagentmonkey89: yeah I want to install ubuntu from an online repo using a small iso image to boot07:05
monkey89reagent, if thats all you need to do, whats wrong with doing a standard install and then doing apt-get upgrade07:05
spolamedamaybe, "killall xmms", or "xkill"07:05
adjacenthow do i set my system up to automount USB flash drives?07:05
medamaybethanks07:05
redguy!e1707:05
uboturedguy: What?07:05
Deterministmae, KB.07:05
reagentmonkey89: I don't have a CD and it would take me 2 hourse to download the image07:05
Deterministmonkey89, thanks mate.07:05
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_frank_shamus: you can install azureus with synaptics. If you're on amd64, you need to download the right version from the website07:05
reagenthours*07:05
monkey89reagent, and probably just as long to download the updated files? :)07:05
Deterministmonkey89, any idea if the listening port is configurable? i only have port 443 open for outgoing traffic at work07:05
monkey89then how do you intend to boot from an iso07:05
reagentmonkey89: no we have a local mirror07:05
monkey89Determinist, nx server runs through ssh07:05
Deterministmonkey89, i see07:06
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franco64shamus: what linux distro version of azureus did u download07:06
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Subson1xis there a good howto somewhere to compile the kernel with ubuntu?07:06
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shamusfranco64, the linux gtk version07:07
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spekkieCan anyone tell me a way to install mono 1.1.7 && devel tools through synaptic/apt-get without needing these ignored repositories?07:07
shamus_frank_, i searched synaptic for azureus, but it didn't find anything07:07
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monkey89reagent, ok.  i can't say im sure how to make a custom CD... but perhaps looking somewhere (google/ubuntu forums) for install cd creation scripts might help07:08
spolaif only there was a website where we could find documents published on the internet so we could find stuff outselves instead of endlessly asking the #ubuntu dewdz07:08
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reagentmonkey89: ok, thank you anyway for your efforts07:08
Subson1xspola: check out www.ubuntux.org07:08
_frank_shamus: what version of ubuntu are you using?07:08
problematici need to download the jre plugin for ubuntu07:08
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problematici'd like to ask what to pick07:08
Malin`spola, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryDocumentation07:08
monkey89sun-j2re1.4 seems to work on mine07:08
shamus_frank_, hoary, x8607:09
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monkey89er, without the sun-07:09
monkey89j2re1.307:09
problematiclinux amd64 or linux amd64rpm?07:09
monkey89j2re1.3407:09
monkey89arr07:09
adriyel__mmm...amd64 :)07:09
adriyel__!name07:09
ubotuadriyel__: Do they come in packets of five?07:09
spolathat was a rethorical question :p (i was talking about googling)07:09
_frank_shamus: azureus is in backports, I suggest you install azureus that way07:09
problematici've already finished the installation for that but it still won't work :P07:09
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shamus_frank_, sorry, but what is backports?07:09
problematicweird... plus my firefox always hangs after a while07:10
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_frank_!backports07:10
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports07:10
adriyel__problematic, are you using the 64-bit?07:10
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problematiccurrently installed, yeah :)07:10
JBEHi all I can see Sylpheed Claws 1.0.4-1 here:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/sylpheed-claws/07:10
adriyel__problematic, I have an AMD350007:10
moomooboyhello07:10
problematicoh that...07:10
Deterministi gotta admit, working with a 19" TFT monitor can really change your habbits. had a 15" TFT for 2 years since yesterday ... just a different ballgame.07:10
adriyel__problematic, I've already encountered, debugged, and solved this problem07:10
JBEI have  universe in my sources.lst07:10
h08817well i guess i gotta do a lovely reinstall of ubuntu just what i am looking forward too07:10
problematici'm on a lower processor thingy07:11
problematic:">07:11
namElEzubuntu wont finalize installation on 1st it cant read cd and throws me to aptitude07:11
adriyel__problematic, you need to move the libflash plugin in your firefox directory out of there, its not 64-bit clean07:11
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problematicamd duron 900mhz07:11
adriyel__problematic, until you do, Firefox will crash everytime you run into flash07:11
moomooboycan someone explain to me.. why ubuntu is only 1 CD.. while other distros are like 3-4 CD's?07:11
JBEIf I so a "sudo apt-get install sylpheed-claws=1.0.4-1 sylpheed-claws-i18n=1.0.4-1" it tells me that version 1.0.4-1 cannot be found.  Anyone know why?07:11
adriyel__problematic, I thought you said you had 64bit?07:11
adriyel__wtf?07:11
monkey89moomooboy, not a large install.  you're expected to get packages you like from the repositories07:11
spekkiethere is a problem with the hoary-extras repos07:11
spekkiei was told earlier on07:12
_frank_moomooboy: you download the rest07:12
monkey89while things like fedora come with all the needed software on the CD07:12
Deterministmoomooboy, better handling of packages, no unneeded devel packages. it's a user oriented linux distro07:12
survivormoomoo: Because ubuntu only comes with one app per task, not all of them.07:12
namElEzso i cant get this thing to install properly?07:12
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adriyel__moomooboy, its called bloat. Fedora literally has 6 apps for one task half the time07:12
h08817spekkie: like what?07:12
moomooboyoh i see07:12
gratuitI just installed breezy, and I'm having trouble running aterm I get the error "aterm: can't load color "Black", colorID = 0, (29)" and though xterm runs, I do get the errors xterm: Cannot allocate color magenta07:12
gratuitxterm: Cannot allocate color green07:12
gratuitxterm: Cannot allocate color black07:12
gratuitxterm: Cannot allocate color red307:12
monkey89so do we, but in the repositories07:12
Tortelok, how do i install identd? ( http://www.fukt.bth.se/~per/identd/ ) I need it to connect to irc.quakenet.org07:12
moomooboythank you ^^07:12
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moomooboyi guess ill be seeking a lot of help from you guys ^^.. since im new to linux07:12
adriyel__moomooboy, Ubuntu takes a different approach in that, it decides what is probably best, most of the time, thats correct for the majority07:12
moomooboyany books you guys can recommend me to get me started :D07:12
adriyel__I hate bloat07:12
gratuitany ideas?07:12
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problematicthanks adriyel :)07:13
saggytits:( i cant install ubuntu .. blah07:13
adriyel__yeah, its called the Internet moomooboy07:13
spekkieh08817, like I just installed on this box and can't get my mono env up to speed cuz of Ignored repositories07:13
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adriyel__ :P07:13
moomooboywell the reason im about to install ubuntu is because its the ONLY LINux i found that works with my WIRELESS card ! ^^07:13
h08817hmm i never had any problems with repos07:13
namElEzwhere is ubuntu forum?07:13
moomooboy:P thanks for that adriyel :P07:13
monkey89moomooboy, what card?07:13
namElEzoh i found07:13
reagentmonkey89: ftp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch05s01.html section 5.1.2 is closest to what I want to do07:13
moomooboyhmm gotta check its on my laptop07:13
problematici tried veryfying the installation for jre but it still won't work07:14
adriyel__moomooboy, heh, I like Ubuntu's hardware support :). no seriously, use google all the time, I do07:14
moomooboythats why i was happy when sound works.. + wireless card works07:14
saggytitsanyone had the problem that when you hit enter to install it .. it goes through the loading and then just turns black07:14
adriyel__moomooboy, here's a bash tutorial you'll want to read07:14
monkey89reagent, yeah, thats netboot07:14
monkey89i guess07:14
adriyel__http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/lts0060.html07:14
spekkieh08817, http://rafb.net/paste/results/gnoldm58.html07:14
kevin06I have a question about GIMP, and the channel is dead. How do I invert balck to white and vice versa. Tutorials say go to Image -> Color- Invert, but I don't have a Color sub-menu07:14
problematici didn't receive any error message upon the installation of the jre07:14
reagentmonkey89: no that's boot from a kernel and initrd which is on the harddisk07:14
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moomooboywell i will take a look @ that..07:14
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moomooboyi only did a fundamental class.. for linux cli07:14
moomooboyso i dont even know how to install a software properly -.-...07:15
Deterministi gotta write some script to turn backports on and off from sources.list :D07:15
adriyel__Ubuntu got my SATA drive, my sound, my nvidia-glx/6800GT, and my network all working out of the box. and my hardware is "exotic" :)07:15
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moomooboybut im welling to learn!.. cause linux is DA FUTURE!07:15
medamaybeis it me, or is xmms unstable as hell?07:15
Deterministmoomooboy, got that right mister.07:15
lazlofruvousi'm sysadmin of a lab at swarthmore college... we're looking at using ubuntu for our client machines, but wondering what the best automatic install/update system is? previously we've used FAI/Debian Sarge, is there an FAI for Ubuntu?07:15
adriyel__moomooboy, installing software is easy with Ubuntu, just use synaptic. Heh, some form of Unix is the future, not necessarily Linux. We'll see if Linux can get its act together on the desktop, although Ubuntu is helping that greatly07:15
_frank_Determinist: I just use synaptics to turn repos on and off07:16
adriyel__I don't use XMMS anymore, I use Beep-Media-Player, which is a fork of XMMS07:16
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adriyel__XMMS isn't developed or maintained anymore moomooboy07:16
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I_C_WIENERmedamaybe, its yoi07:16
Determinist_frank_, ummm, you delete them from the repo list? or is there some enable/disable command i'm missing here?07:16
adriyel__sudo apt-get install beep-media-player07:16
moomooboyyeh i agree on that.. im quite suprised on how easy ubuntu is..07:16
adriyel__moomooboy, my first Linux distro was Slackware...lol.07:16
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adriyel__I don't wanna hear a damn complaint about synaptic, *laughs*07:16
Deterministadriyel__, poor you :)07:17
moomooboyadriyel .. how do i install codecs on ubuntu??07:17
medamaybe"E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player"  ?07:17
monkey89moomooboy, depends on the app07:17
adriyel__Determinist, I still like Slackware, thank you very much, due in no small part to slapt-get07:17
adriyel__moomooboy, get the gstreamer plugins07:17
_frank_Determinist: click show disabled software sources in the repositories settings07:17
monkey89for totem/rhythmbox, gstreamer0.8-whatever07:17
Determinist_frank_, thanks07:17
sjg!restrictedformats07:17
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'07:17
adriyel__moomooboy, search for gstreamer and just install everything that looks related07:17
moomooboyhow about i come in after i install ubuntu now ^^07:17
sjgmoomooboy, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'07:17
_frank_Determinist: then you can check/uncheck them07:17
adriyel__use xChat07:17
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moomooboyill come back and ask the same questions in about 1hr ^^..07:17
adriyel__hello sjg07:17
sjg'lo adriyel__07:17
openBackis there a way to remove one of the default packages without apt or synaptic trying to uninstall ubuntu-base?07:17
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moomooboybeeriteback :)07:18
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vajidyelo07:18
adriyel__openBack, apt-get remove?07:18
XorlevOkay, I'm trying to mount my NTFS drive on bootup, but it says "Special device /dev/sda1 not found". Its a SATA drive, which leads me to believe I need to compile SCSI device support into the kernel, not just a module.07:18
mz2is anybody else having problems with ati framebuffer & usplash?07:18
Determinist_frank_, yes, i wasnt aware of these options, thank you sir07:18
monkey89openBack, i dont think so...07:18
XorlevSuggestions/comments?07:18
adriyel__Xorlev, no you don't, I was using SATA right from the install07:19
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prowerI stopped using Slackware a while ago, there were never enough pre-compiled packages for stuff available :> Unless you used Linuxpackages, but it's hard to verify their security07:19
adriyel__Xorlev, did it detect your windows install from the Ubuntu install? also try mount JUST /dev/sda, not with a #07:19
monkey89openBack, get smeg and hide it from the menu :)07:19
_frank_Determinist: it took me a long time to find that. before I would always edit sources.list manually07:19
vajidwher can i get game torrents?07:19
adriyel__prower, I compiled from source frequently07:19
_frank_vajid: wrong channel!07:19
monkey89vajid, keep it legal in here.07:19
vajidsowwie07:19
Xorlevadriyel__: Once my system is booted a mount -a works fine, its just on boot that it doesn't work.07:19
Determinist_frank_, same here, i dont feel like having the update manager install all sorts of packages i have no use for :)07:19
openBackmonkey89: yeah, I did that for some, but it's just not right! :P07:20
monkey89openBack, hmm07:20
adriyel__*tilts head @ Xorlev* huh?07:20
jepeltwAnyone here use NDISwrapper?07:20
monkey89openBack, what if you install ubuntu-minimal instead of ubuntu-desktop07:20
monkey89(i dont know at all, but maybe)07:20
proweradriyel__: I did as well, but it's more complicated for some packages than others07:20
adriyel__how do you mean @ boot it doesn't work07:20
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namElEzhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=319689#post319689    all07:20
Tortelhow do i install pidentd? (http://www.lysator.liu.se/~pen/pidentd/)07:20
adriyel__prower, which is why I installed portage on Slackware...lol.07:20
openBackmonkey89: you know, that would probably be best, but my system's already installed07:20
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monkey89openBack, so?07:20
Whistleris it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop?07:20
adriyel__Whistler, yeah, but it'll go to ugly defaults.07:21
Whistleri heard that this is a dummy package07:21
adriyel__I like the Ubuntu desktop.07:21
monkey89its safe, but it apparently makes upgrades harder07:21
Xorlevadriyel__: When its booting up (initial /etc/fstab load) it says Special device not found: /dev/sda1. Then once I'm booted up fully (console, Konsole, etc.) I can remount and it mounts it just fine.07:21
adriyel__monkey89, yeahs.07:21
monkey89adriyel__, isn't artwork stored in another package07:21
Whistleroh so i better leave it alone07:21
monkey89(ubuntu-artwork)07:21
adriyel__Xorlev, so whats the problem? if it works, leave it be.07:21
openBackmonkey89: but reconfiguring things is a hassle07:21
adriyel__monkey89, meh? I thought the package included theming and such07:21
monkey89your call07:21
monkey89adriyel__, no, i tihnk its just a meta package referring to everything that comes on the gnome desk07:22
adriyel__*shrugs* oh well07:22
Xorlevadriyel__: I'd rather not have to remount every time I reboot to get it to mount.07:22
XorlevWhistler: I went through Synaptic and left the libraries and Synaptic07:22
openBackmonkey89: I have yet to find an easy way to reinstall a whole system :'/07:22
XorlevI removed everything else07:22
adriyel__Xorlev, write an entry into the cron daemon07:22
qt2so... i can use normal debian apt servers right? they're jsut not supported?07:22
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adriyel__Xorlev, have it mount after you've logged in07:22
adriyel__since fstab is being gay...07:22
Xorlevadriyel__: I could do that.07:22
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adriyel__*nods* indeed you could.07:22
_frank_qt2: no installing debian packages is asking for trouble07:22
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problematichow do i remove the libflash plugin in my firefox directory?07:23
WhistlerXorlev so i can remove it safely?07:23
qt2_frank_, ah, okay... i guess?07:23
adriyel__for what its worth, fstab has given me mouth about that stuff before, but I have a set up where /dev/sda1 is windows, /dev/sda2 is Ubuntu, fstab mounts /dev/sda1 to /crappyos07:23
sjglol adjacent07:23
_frank_qt2: If something is not in the ubuntu repositories, its better to compile from source07:23
adriyel__problematic, mv ~/.mozilla/firefox/libflash-mozplugin.so ~07:23
sjgerr, lol adriyel__07:23
adriyel__thats one way07:23
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adriyel__sjg, you like my mountpoint for win32 eh?07:23
monkey89ew, dont give it a / directory, stuff it in /media07:24
XorlevWhister: I removed GNOME stuff manually (in Synaptic to see that it didn't kill anything I needed), but don't remove ubuntu-desktop07:24
problematicthanks adriyel :)07:24
adriyel__np07:24
sjgadriyel__, Thats how mine is too lol07:24
adriyel__lol.07:24
adriyel__I gave it a root directory because I access it frequently07:24
Tortel how do i install pidentd? (http://www.lysator.liu.se/~pen/pidentd/)07:24
adriyel__and I wasn't gonna toss it in home07:24
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adriyel__sudo apt-get install package?07:24
Doonz6 episode onto 1 dvdr07:24
problematicadriyel... it says no such file or directory :P07:24
monkey89yeah, but if you manage to fix auto mounting in hoary, putting it in /media has it show up on your desktop automagically07:24
_frank_adriyel__: the "proper" place to put it is /media07:24
sjgmines just /mnt/microsloth07:24
adriyel__problematic, browse to ~/.mozilla/firefox07:24
adriyel___frank_, "Proper" have never been my thing :)07:25
adriyel__problematic, I prolly typo'ed it or something, just move the plugin out of there07:25
adriyel___frank_, I installed portage on Slack, is that an indication?07:25
monkey89hehe07:25
_frank_adriyel__: I guess... ;-)07:26
adriyel__someone needs to develop a secure version of IRC07:26
adriyel__encrypted with IP masking07:26
monkey89ip masking occurs on most servers07:26
monkey89and other networks already support https07:26
monkey89not freenode now thouh07:26
sjgThat would be more of a ircd problem adriyel__07:26
monkey89er, not https, ssl07:26
adriyel__monkey89, not on some of the ones I go into.07:26
sjgAnd dancer ircd can do that afaik07:27
adriyel__sjg, why aren't proper defaults set that way then?07:27
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monkey89true, but its a problem with their server, not IRC :)07:27
adriyel__seriously.07:27
_frank_adriyel__: on freenet, I think there is a super slow, super secure IRC07:27
adriyel___frank_, note to self: new meeting place for clients07:27
sjgadriyel__, This network is setup how they want :P07:27
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adriyel__sjg, I know, but its annoying nonetheless07:27
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adriyel__lol, I tricked my dad into thinking I generated a hash of the Microsoft Office 2003 Corporate edition .iso07:28
Deterministany of you remmember where i can get that script that adds fat32 partitions to fstab?07:28
SeveasDeterminist: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically07:28
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adriyel__he was being paranoid and I wanted him to shut up, so I fed him some bullshit about it07:28
DeterministSeveas, i'm gonna stop saying thanks soon :P07:28
problematicthe only libflash thing i was able to find was the one used by openoffice07:29
problematicno other libflash thingy in there :P07:29
Doonzanyone know why when i try to open the file manager it says starting then never opens?07:29
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adriyel__Seveas, why is that script necessary? my /dev/sda1 is mounted automagically by FSTAB with no probs, I don't understand why everyone is ahving difficulty... :|07:29
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adriyel__has anyone had experience with SATA-RAID on Ubuntu? does it work ok?07:29
adriyel__I'm gonna upgrade to a RAID rig soon07:29
sjgIll be doing it soon Adr.. :P07:30
adriyel__me knoez it.07:30
adriyel__ :)07:30
sjgLike in a few hours, the gear came in this morning :P07:30
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adriyel__yours will prolly be more comprehensive though07:30
adriyel__oh, SWEET07:30
adriyel__nice shipping :)07:30
sjgOvernight :P07:30
adriyel__no kiddin.07:30
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adriyel__I get free 2nd day of zipzoomfly...I like ZZF...07:30
adriyel__from07:30
Seveasadriyel__, only removable drives are autom-mounted07:31
dalamarhow can i prevent the cd/dvd writer window opening when I insert a blank dvd/cd?07:31
adriyel__Seveas, it asked me about my windows partition on the ubuntu install, and it made an FSTAB entry07:31
adriyel__its worked since, again, whats the issue with people's win32 installs here?07:31
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adriyel__oh THATS interesting.07:32
sjg?07:32
adriyel__how is that party getting mounted?07:32
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adriyel__theres no fstab entry07:32
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adriyel__yet its getting mounte07:33
adriyel__mounted at boot07:33
carthikHI all, how can I find out what wireless card I have without open my pc?07:33
adriyel__wtf?07:33
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carthikopening my pc, that is07:33
Tortelhow do you make it so you can modify /etc/07:33
adriyel__sudo passwd07:33
adriyel__su07:33
adriyel__?07:33
sjgor, sudo su07:34
sjg:P07:34
tswsudo -s07:34
ycombsudo -s from a shell ...07:34
adriyel__lol @ sjg07:34
puslingwhat kde version is in breezy right now ?07:34
_frank_carthik: lspci07:34
adriyel__pseudo-root. yay.s07:34
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adriyel__isn't sudo -s equivalent to sudo $SHELL ?07:35
adriyel__(insert shell of choice)07:35
adriyel__breezy has a kubuntu version out?07:35
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sjgI guess sudo -s works, im just still used to using sudo su07:36
carthik_frank_, thanks: that says, among other things "Network Controller: RALink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01) ---- does that seem to be the one?07:36
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Tortelwhat do i do after that?07:36
adriyel__sudo /bin/bash sudo -s sudo su all do the same thing (with a slight diff with su)07:36
Torteli dont know much about commands07:36
adriyel__http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/lts0060.html now you do07:36
adriyel__have at it son.07:36
shamus_frank_, I added backports to my repositories, but still no azureus07:36
shamusand i ran apt-get update07:36
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adriyel__ahhh, thats how you print from console.07:37
adriyel__sweet.07:37
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adriyel__nano > emacs > vi07:37
adriyel__ :P07:37
sjgwrong07:37
adriyel__indeed.07:38
sjgvi >  .07:38
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adriyel__pico && nano > *.*07:38
adriyel__printf("pwnt");07:38
adriyel__ :P07:38
sjg*rolls eyes*07:38
adriyel__I like my starry eyes. :D07:38
adriyel__in all seriousness, I am curious about vi07:38
adriyel__why use it?07:38
sjgMore that, im just used to it07:39
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adriyel__(not to start a holy war)07:39
Torteldamnit, is there a simple way to copy a file into /ect/?07:39
adriyel__lol, pico/nano just seem more intuitive07:39
sjgused pico a little, but mostly im just used to vi07:39
sjgand vi is powerful :P07:39
adriyel__sudo cp /filetobecopied /etc07:39
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depravevi annoys me07:39
depravei don't know why07:39
franco64tortel why not use the cp command07:39
adriyel__define "powerful"...can it make gcc compile faster?07:39
adriyel__deprave, it annoys me too, its ok. Gentoo broke me in to nano.07:39
sjgNo adriyel__ lol07:40
adriyel__that was sarcasm sjg07:40
dalamarthe dreaded : commands07:40
ubuntuhackerHi people07:40
adriyel__:QUIT07:40
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sjgNow I absolutely hate emacs07:40
adriyel__:SHUTTHEFUCKOFFVI07:40
adriyel__:REBOOT07:40
depraveahah07:40
sjglol07:40
adriyel__I seriously got trapped in vi one time07:40
_frank_carthik: yeah that would be your wireless card07:40
adriyel__had to switch consoles07:40
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adriyel__and kill the process07:40
depraveme too07:40
sjgjust memorize the : commands and youre ok07:40
dalamaradjacent, LOL me too07:40
sjg:wq07:40
ubuntuhackerhi room07:40
sjg:q!~07:40
adriyel__thank you, now I won't get trapped in vi anymore07:40
adriyel__WTF?07:40
depravepine is the first thing i install on all unix boxes i create07:40
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carthik_frank_, thank you - so now I will try and get the rt2500 module installed07:40
dalamaropened a new console and checked the man page just to get out of the damn thing first time07:40
ubuntuhackeri just intall my ubuntu07:40
adriyel__q!~ <--- thats usability?07:40
ubuntuhackeri need some help07:41
sjgwell :q!07:41
sjgnot :q!07:41
depraveubuntuhacker : and you're already hacking?!?!!?!? cheers!~07:41
adriyel__...07:41
sjgerr :q!~ isnt valid07:41
sjg:q! is07:41
ubuntuhackerlol07:41
ubuntuhackertht's just a joke deprave07:41
sjg:q! is quit app without saving07:41
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adriyel__deprave, running the metasploit framework isn't hacking, he's disqualified07:41
snpzhi, is there precompiled valknut package for ubuntu?07:41
ubuntuhackerlol07:41
adriyel__sjg how do I save my progress in this new game called vi?07:41
sjg:wq07:41
depraveno way he's a nitko and nessus ninja, leaving no trace in tripwire databases07:42
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adriyel__*laughs* do I buy a Unix memory card?07:42
ubuntuhackeri really like ubuntu07:42
adriyel__kkz, wq...q!07:42
adriyel__hmm, lets hope I dun screw those up07:42
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ubuntuhackerhow do u people like it ?07:42
dalamarseckzy.07:42
adriyel__deprave, I can defeat the tripwire :)07:42
sjgvi, :read /etc/passwd, insert > fookthx, :wq07:42
sjg:P07:42
adriyel__deprave, just leave the some pr0n in /root, he'll look the other way07:42
depraveubuntuhacker : it's nice for getting MS people's feet in the unix doorway.07:43
adriyel__ubuntuhacker, I fucking hate Ubuntu, really.07:43
ubuntuhackernaw i don't if i any of u can help me out with this07:43
adriyel__thats exactly why I use it, and why I tech support for users of it07:43
adriyel__lol07:43
ubuntuhackeri want to configure ubuntu as a gate way07:43
ubuntuhackeris there anyway out ?07:43
depraveo.O07:43
adriyel__deprave, seriously, leaving pr0n in /root is ninja-style, like leaving poisoned rice somewhere07:44
sjgNo youre trapped07:44
depraveadriyel__ : word07:44
sjgHi I like rice?07:44
adriyel__lol @ sjg07:44
prowerI've used pretty much all the popular distributions out between 1997 to now, and the two favourites I have are Gentoo and Ubuntu :>07:44
sjgmmmm yay goood song07:44
dalamarits the best personal desktop distro period imo regardless if your switching from win or a linux guru07:44
sjgrockell - love :p07:44
adriyel__I like rice too, I'd better be careful, maybe I'll get ricer pr0n07:44
adriyel__dalamar, AGREED!07:44
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sjglol adriyel07:44
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depraveubuntu is ok for desktop operations, but for name/web/mail servers i prefer fbsd myself.07:44
adriyel__ubuntuhacker, are you talking about a firewall/dhcp gateway?07:44
adriyel__deprave, agreed. stability is King.07:45
depraveyep07:45
ubuntuhackeryea sure07:45
sjgHeh my name/web/mail is all on a ancient sgi indigo 207:45
dalamaryeah the server thing I would be cluess about, just desktop stuff for me07:45
adriyel__can't beat FBSD security07:45
sjggogo irix07:45
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ubuntuhackerinternet sharing07:45
Coyctecmhmm is safe upgrade to breezy?07:45
Coyctecm:D07:45
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XinexAnyone know why it crashes explorer to try and view the workgroup of computers now?07:45
adriyel__ubuntuhacker, I can't HEAR YOU SOLDIER! yea sure don't cut it son. DO YOU WANT A DHCP GATEWAY? HUH? SO RUN 10 MILES! (said in sergeant voice)07:45
adriyel__Xinex, do not tell me you came here with a win32 question07:46
sjglol07:46
Xinexno07:46
Gorthhow can I disable services? Isn't there a graphical tool for that?07:46
dalamar'explorer'?07:46
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dalamarshun07:46
Cody_Hello07:46
adriyel__Xinex, what is explorer then?07:46
XinexIt happened since I got ubuntu up07:46
Cody_I was hoping someone could help me setup a samba share.07:46
adriyel__sudo apt-get install samba07:46
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adriyel__I figured I'd get that out of the way, to begin with07:46
ubuntuhackerlike i want other computers to access internet from the ubuntu box07:46
depraveXinex : are you trying to write to ntfs via a unix box?07:46
Xinexno07:47
XinexI'm trying to view the workgroup of computers07:47
adriyel__Gorth, ps -aux will list processes... use kill to DESTROY THEM! BWAHAHAHAHAHA07:47
Xinexto view the ubuntu box07:47
qt2Gorth? In ubuntu? that'd be BUM(Boot-Up Manager)07:47
depravethen ubuntu isn't relivent to your MS problem, your problem is MS itself.07:47
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sjgadriyel__, hrm, kill -9 -107:47
Gorthadriyel__: sorry, i mean the bootup services in /etc/init.d07:47
depravedefine "view"07:47
Cody_I installed samba via apt-get, I just am n ot sure how to setup what folders are shared (setup a share) and which uesrs can access it?07:47
Gorthqt2: ahh, thanks man :)07:47
adriyel__Gorth, just move them out of there07:47
adriyel__like, mv /etc/init.d/service /dev/null07:48
snpzanybody?07:48
adriyel__*snickers*07:48
snpzi try to compile valknut from source, but i have some kind of error07:48
XinexI mean see the ubuntu computer on the network then read/write files to and from a few win boxes to *nix07:48
adriyel__I'm a bad person sjg.07:48
ReleaseXapt-get install sun-j2re1.5 returns couln't find package, what's the problem?07:48
adriyel__ReleaseX search for JRE on synaptic07:48
Coyctecmget java from sun microsystems site07:48
adriyel__meh @ Coyctecm might not be a wise choice.07:48
Gorthqt2: you wouldn't know another alternative that can be run from the console?07:48
adriyel__its better if he gets it from an Ubuntu repository07:48
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adriyel__Gorth, use the move command!07:49
sjgadriyel__, Ive used both the java out of rep and off the sun site07:49
snpzmaybe there is allready precompiled valknut package07:49
adriyel__Gorth, just move the services into a back up folder07:49
sjgboth work fine07:49
dalamarit was broke in the repos last few days07:49
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adriyel__sjg, kkz, makin sure, I've had issues with mixin packages of various kinds before (EEK, PORTAGE EATS YOUR SOUL IF YOU DO THAT)07:49
snpz?07:49
sjglol07:49
adriyel__lol07:49
adriyel__seriously, it does.07:49
Xinexwould vnc being on mess up the network?07:49
Gorthadriyel__: ok07:49
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qt2Gorth, err, *shrug* all i know is that BUM just is a graphical interface that edits a few files, so just find out what those files are ;)07:50
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sjgXinex, no07:50
adriyel__qt2, where is this magical interface?07:50
qt2as least that's what i've been lead to believe. ;)07:50
Coyctecmanyone knows any organisations using ubuntu?e.g universitys? or is this just distro for newbies to learn how to use linux?07:50
adriyel__I see nothing in gnome07:50
Gorthqt2: i know there is one but I just can't remember its name ;)07:50
adriyel__edubuntu is for educational facilities07:50
qt2adriyel__, System > Administration > Boot-Up Manager?07:50
adriyel__everyone can use ubuntu07:50
adriyel__I'm an intermediate user of Linux, and I use it07:50
sjgCoyctecm, My former university uses ubuntu in their open computer labs ><07:51
adriyel__(does a stage 1 tarball of gentoo successfully installed qualify me for level 10 dwarf?)07:51
monkey89haha07:51
sjgadriyel__, level 1107:51
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CoyctecmI'm am not newbie at all..using linux since 1996...07:51
monkey89all it is is reading commands and entering them07:51
adriyel__SWEET!07:51
adriyel__I'm a Linux advanced user then07:51
franco64i have to say that ubuntu is great07:51
adriyel__and I use ubuntu07:51
Coyctecmbut I really like ubuntu..it's great.07:51
franco64for any person that want'07:51
sjgDitto coy07:51
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adriyel__Coyctecm, and franco64 = double post :P07:51
dalamaryay for ubuntu ;)07:52
Coyctecm=)07:52
sjgIve been a unix user pretty much since about 1991 or so, And I love ubuntu07:52
theineyay for vim!07:52
franco64learn linux from beginner to advance there is always thing to learn07:52
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adriyel__lets all thank mark shuttleworth for providing the fund$$$ for this project07:52
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Blind-Guardianhi07:52
spekkiedoes anybody here have the same problem with installing mono-jit (dep for mono) which can't install mono-assemblies-base-1.1.7 ?07:52
adriyel__franco64, yes, for example, I could start dev'ing for a project or something, but thats a bit of a timesink...(understatement)07:52
dalamarcrazy rich people that have been in space, thanks07:52
CoyctecmI can't figure out why all newbies start first using ubuntu...there is much more easier(graphical tools) in other distros..07:53
Blind-Guardiani would like to host a server of a online game, ubuntu is good for this ?07:53
Cody_Anyone know about this samba question?07:53
CoyctecmI hate too much graphics...I love the command line =)07:53
Blind-Guardiancommand line for the win =)07:53
sjgCoyctecm, shrug. ubuntu just works :p07:53
franco64coyctecm: to learn any linux u first have to go beyond yourself07:53
Coyctecmyada yada07:53
JhairI want to find out which files do not belong to any package on my system. Any ideas how this can be done?07:53
franco64and this is a great start for anyone07:54
depraveBlind-Guardian : as long as your game has a ported version for debian based systems, and you have everything needed to run the server (physical resources too) it should be no problem.07:54
monkey89ack.  anyone know why authentication would fail with freenx?  im getting "ERROR: wrong pasword or login" which is definitely not true.07:54
judaxCoyctecm: ubuntu is red-hot, lots of press, plus ubuntu is all about linux-to-the-masses07:54
Coyctecmyes it's true. it's better start from the terminla07:54
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franco64there is plenty of info and irc chats for people to get to grips with this07:54
Blind-Guardianrofl nobody's can help me ?07:54
Coyctecmterminal than clicking with mouse07:54
depraveBlind-Guardian i just answered your question07:54
Blind-Guardianurf sorry, thx07:54
franco64u have to push yourself or why go to linux07:54
lewionwhere is java?07:54
Coyctecmis here any ubuntu developers? I have one wish07:55
deprave!tell lewion about java07:55
slask3nBlind-Guardian: Help yuou with what?07:55
adriyel__Coyctecm, you're in the wrong channel for devs07:55
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lewionyeah tell me07:55
dalamar#uvubtu-devel07:55
adriyel__Coyctecm, go to #ubuntu-devel07:55
Coyctecmok07:55
dalamarubuntu even07:55
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franco64stay with windows (aarrgghh) or mac (which i have to say i do love) have loads of macs07:55
Blind-Guardianthx deprave07:55
adriyel__or ubuntu-dev07:55
adriyel__I dunno07:55
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sjg#ubuntu-devel07:55
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adriyel__franco64, install Linux on all the win32/mac machines07:56
adriyel__then cluster them07:56
adriyel__then own the world.07:56
sjgLol07:56
adriyel__ :)07:56
franco64and the mac os is just another linux (sort of distro) and that is what got me interested in linux07:56
depravecorrection07:56
depraveit's fbsd based07:56
sjgTake over the world, pinky and the brain style07:56
lewionlol07:56
adriyel__sjg, one of my pranks on the admins, was using their own computers, to crack the hash of their password. I used Clusterknoppix to cluster 2 classroom fulls of computers to crack it07:56
Xinexis there someone willing to help me with my win/ubuntu network problem that won't yell at me?07:56
adriyel__I bribed my favorite teacher into letting me, she hates the admins07:56
franco64well adriyel i have a pc that has windows and ubuntu twin boot07:56
sjglol adriyel__07:57
adriyel__70 computers tends to get a hash dealt with quickly07:57
adriyel__*ahhhh* that was glorious.07:57
slask3nBlind-Guardian: What was it you wanted to do?07:57
depraveXinex what are you trying to do again?07:57
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franco64i have three macs which i love to do graphics (which i have to say that linux is not the great at)07:57
sjgagreed, especially dumb admins that use easy passwords :P07:57
adriyel__theres 3 admins07:57
medamaybeok, let me rephrase what I asked earlier: is it me or is ESD unstable as hell?!07:57
Xinexoh wait, deprave, I think I got it07:57
adriyel__their password = 3stooges07:57
franco64and linux for system admin stuff07:57
_Jonas_Hey, everybody. I got a question, maybe someone can help: I want to install ubuntu on my mom's old notebook. Its cdrom drive is broken so I can't use it. Is there any way to boot from an USB external harddrive?07:57
sjglol adriyel__07:57
Xinexwhat is the command to start samba?07:57
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adriyel__I'm serious.07:58
Blind-Guardianslask3n it is a bomberman online game07:58
decafmedamaybe: yes!07:58
adriyel__my dad and I cracked up when I told him07:58
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sjgI dont blame you07:58
Blind-Guardian( http://bomberman.epiknet.net )07:58
medamaybedecaf: so why does ubuntu come with esd?07:58
adriyel__they're such morons...07:58
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sjgThats a weeeeeeeeeak password07:58
depravefranco64: ......system administration is done on macs, unix boxes, xbox's, TI83 graphing calculators. you're just making excuses not to learn07:58
adriyel__they really should have seti@home or folding or something on the schools computers, they do NOTHING all night07:58
decafmedamaybe: becouse alsa's multichannel support is worse. it's getting better now07:58
franco64deprave: maybe07:59
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adriyel__I'm gonna force them into making the school my personal supercomputer if they don't install folding...07:59
survivorfolding?07:59
adriyel__(or maybe I'll do that myself *wicked grin*)07:59
medamaybedecaf: is there no alternative?07:59
lenny_how's it goin07:59
adriyel__its like seti@home, its a distributed work load model07:59
depraveadriyel__ : worm and virus propogation targeting windows machines, a diabolical plot to end the monopoly07:59
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franco64i ahve done many admin stuff on the mac ( i am a network admin for a company that only really uses macs)07:59
adriyel__they divvie up the work07:59
adriyel__deprave, why do you think I support my local virus writer?07:59
adriyel__lol.07:59
depravehah07:59
adriyel__I wrote a simple one not too long ago, just to piss off the admins07:59
decafmedamaybe: for gnome users, no. KDE people have "arts". it's a memory eater like all other KDE apps.08:00
franco64but the really good stuff is beyond the GUI interface which is all linux based08:00
adriyel__it had a habit of making the explorer shell flash like a kid with ADHD on crack08:00
adriyel__and then forcing a reboot08:00
adriyel__randomly.08:00
depraveahah08:00
adriyel__erm, pseudo-randomly, sorry, no fuzzy there08:00
franco64so linux is what makes mac tick when it comes to admin stuff08:00
CoyctecmIs official ubuntu repos support for fluxbox or something similar window manager?08:00
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adriyel__it was quite funny, because norton couldn't pick it up (didn't have a typical virus signature)08:00
Xinexwhat is the command to start samba and how do I get samba to start automatically with the computer?08:00
GerriallDoes anybody have a recommendation for configuring Dual Monitor inside Ubuntu?08:00
medamaybedecaf: so basically....KDE kinda somewhat sucks?08:00
adriyel__they couldn't figure out WHAT was going on08:00
depravefranco64 : no, linux isn't.08:00
franco64pc's i have to say i try to avoid08:00
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adriyel__PC's are faster, deal with it.08:01
adriyel__they're cheaper too08:01
lancer285can anyone help me, I'm having problems killing a process08:01
slask3nBlind-Guardian: And you can't make it work correctly?08:01
franco64viruses viruses08:01
adriyel__I hate to disappoint you, but a dual Athlon X2 4800 is gonna pwn a dual G508:01
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medamaybeKDE sucks and gnome doesn't have a good sound server...that's kinda sad08:01
decafmedamaybe: that's just my own opinion. you should try yourself08:01
depravefranco64: OSX is powered on a FreeBSD based system, which is not Linux. being a system administrator i would hope you could differentiate the two08:01
Xinexwhat is the command to start samba and how do I get samba to start automatically with the computer?08:01
adriyel__medamaybe, whats wrong with sound in gnome? mine works fine08:01
Blind-Guardianslask3n yep, it pratically finish08:01
adjacent_medamaybe: we all need aqua08:01
anacroncan you guys tell me what was the name of that winmac mounting script08:01
adriyel__deprave, um, what about OS 9? gotta give NeXT some love08:02
adriyel__lolz.08:02
medamaybeadjacent_: what's aqua?08:02
lancer285I need help killing a process.08:02
adriyel__its actually darwin BSD08:02
XinexO_o08:02
franco64deprave: the structure is still the same08:02
Blind-Guardianbut i can't disgn it :/08:02
depraveit's fbsd with a different name08:02
adjacent_medamaybe: mac's wm08:02
franco64bravo adriyel08:02
medamaybeadriyel_:  I can't play any sound files...xmms crashed, beep-media-player crashed, rhythembox crashed...:/08:02
depravefranco64: hardly, maybe the core principals08:02
lancer285if I type kill -9 773508:02
lancer285it doesn't go away08:02
adriyel__medamaybe, use rhythmbox08:02
JhairXinex, /etc/init.d/smbd AFAIK08:02
anacron"winmac" automatic mounting script anyone?, what's the real name?08:02
lancer285if I do killall wineserver it doesn't die08:02
Blind-GuardianI need disigneur08:03
medamaybeadriyel__: rhythmbox keeps crashing as well08:03
franco64well if u where to do any admin stuff what would u rather use linux or mac08:03
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depravelancer285 : killall -9 wineserver maybe08:03
adriyel__medamaybe, install the gstreamer plugins from synaptic08:03
Blind-GuardianI need designer08:03
Blind-Guardian*08:03
franco64mac has still a few things that do cause problems08:03
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carthiklancer do ps aux | grep wine then note the pid of the process you want to kill and kill that08:03
franco64it nice and it simple to work with08:03
lancer285deprave it's not killing it ):08:03
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medamaybeok, I'll try that (although last time I did that, it killed the rest of the sound server08:03
anacronFrancis,  like linux doesn't?08:03
depravefranco64 : i haven't used mac since i was in grade school, i use unix for desktop operations and 'system administration' as you put it08:03
Tortelhow do i copy a file from my home directory to /ect/ using sudo? i know "sudo cp {file} " but i dont know how to make it /ect/08:03
carthiklancer285, worst case, restart gnome and be done with it :)08:04
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depravelancer285: ps aux | grep wine, then kill -9 PID08:04
chrishey all, quick question what file deterimines if gdm or kdm starts?08:04
lancer285carthik I just did that. the process won't die when I do kill -9 pid08:04
lancer285or when I do killall wineserver08:04
anacrontoran, first is the file you want to copy and then where you want to copy it08:04
depraveare you doing sudo killall -9 wineserver?08:04
lancer285just restart gnome then?08:04
adjacent_im glad we all use linux for a desktop. one day when the linux desktop becomes a reality we will be considered pioneers!08:04
franco64deprave mac's curent version 10.4 is all fancy and i do love it for basic things like graphics and even programming08:04
lancer285no, I'm not doing sudo08:04
Tortelwell, to make my question simple, how do i edit the ect/inetd.conf file?08:04
carthiklancer restart gnome then... that would be ctrl+alt+backspace : before you do this, save whatever else you have to save08:04
Tortelwhats the command to do that?08:05
lancer285k08:05
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carthikTortel, what text editor do you like?08:05
franco64but admin stuff u have to say that linux is more stable and u can adapt to your needs more easy08:05
medamaybeadriyel__ ALL of them?08:05
Duvel!gdesklets08:05
ubotuDuvel: Are you on ritalin?08:05
Duvelyes08:05
carthikTortel, try sudo gedit /etc/inetd.conf08:05
Tortelwhatever works08:05
anacronwe drink ritalin!08:05
Tortelok08:05
depravefranco64: anything you can do on your little mac boxes i can do on any pc, and probably better. and also my dad can beat your dad up08:06
franco64that's not nice deprave08:06
depraves/pc/unix boxes08:06
depravefranco64 : it's a joke08:06
franco64are u still in your teens deprave08:06
depraveyou know, like recess quarrals etc08:06
sjgdeprave, my govenor can beat your govenor up.08:06
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chrisanyone know an easy way to change from kdm to gdm?08:06
depravefranco64: yes but i read at a college level08:06
Tortelyay that worked08:06
DuvelI apt-got gdesklets and gdesklets-data, now it says i need lmsensors... what can i do?08:06
Tortelbrb08:06
franco64i hope so08:06
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lenny_!repos08:06
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:06
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slask3nDuvel: Install lmsensor08:07
franco64pc,mac,linux war08:07
Duvelslask3n, yes but how, they are not in apt?08:07
depravewell, pc can mean anything really08:07
slask3nGoogle is your friend ;)08:07
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franco64what can i say they all steal from each other and we all bicker about it08:07
Xinexugh, when I try to star samba it says the daemons fail08:08
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Xinexstart*08:08
spekkieis anyone else  having trouble getting restricted packages from hoary-extras? it happens with every mirror here. i would like to install mono-1.1.7 with monodevelop etc but it has unresolved dependencies and i don't have a clue as to what is causing this08:08
Duvelslask3n, i did google before i came here, found no help08:08
slask3nDuvel: Google for debian+lmsensor08:08
depravefranco64 : your theory is humerous08:08
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slask3nDuvel: Or lmsensor+download08:08
ubuntufunhi08:08
NoUse!info lm-sensors08:08
ubotulm-sensors: (Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 453 kB, Installed size: 1404 kB08:08
Gnurduxi cant find the downlaod for Kubuntu and a friend needs it08:08
Xinexugh, when I try to start samba it says the daemons fail, what should I do?08:08
Gnurduxah just foudn it08:09
Coyctecmis there anyway to install ubuntu without x-server?08:09
Gnurduxsry for the trouble08:09
depraveprobably read a manual or something08:09
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Duvelah there that should help thx08:09
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depraveCoyctecm : yes, in the beginning, it asks you if you want to install normal or server08:09
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franco64gnurdux: see what happens when u use google08:10
Coyctecmdeprave: ok, but will this "server" install all servers too?openssh and so on..?08:10
franco64like everyone google is king08:10
franco64i think everone can agree on that08:10
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franco64well maybe with firefox08:10
franco64soory me being stupid08:10
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depraveCoyctecm : it prompts you just like installing the regular way what software you want to install, and besides, what's so difficult about typing sudo apt-get install openssl?08:11
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lenny_!kde08:12
ubotuA powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/08:12
Goshawkin which packages is "glade--" located?08:12
depravesomeone just walked up to me and called me a dork ass08:12
Coyctecmdeprave: ok...good. No i was just asking cause I don't wan't servers, I just want ubuntu without X :)08:12
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lenny_How do I get kde to be an option under sessions on the ubuntu login screen?08:13
Coyctecmdeprave: Then I can install X anf fluxbox and so on without too much bloat =)08:13
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adriyel__Coyctecm, if you wish, yes.08:13
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slask3nCoyctecm: try reinstall with server install08:14
Duvelnow if is for example start the system/misc sysinfo gdesklet, i only get a small square on the desktop, and clicking configure doesn't do anything08:14
Coyctecmyes that I will do, not with this machine but another one =)08:14
medamaybeadriyel__ do I have to install ALL of the gstreamer plugins? even the ones for alsa?08:14
Coyctecmthanks08:14
ubuntufunHi anybody with the idea of using ubuntu for gateway server08:15
slask3nCoyctecm:  type server during install instead of just pressing enter08:15
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cyberixIs there any player which understands OGG/Flac ?08:15
depraveyeah, reading stuff is much better than arbitrarily pressing buttons08:16
Hoxzerwhat is good sofware for doing C++ in ubuntu?08:16
depraveuh08:16
depravepico08:16
Duvelstarting a gdesklet only gives a small square instead of the info it should show08:16
ubuntufuni can't play videos in ubuntu08:16
lenny_cyberix:  I think xmms does if you install the packages for them... also available via apt I believe08:16
adjacent_Hoxzer: g++ works well for me08:16
JhairHoxzer, g++08:16
Hoxzerok08:16
deprave!tell ubuntufun about win32codec08:16
ubuntufunis it possible to play videos in ubuntu?08:16
Tortelwhat will this command do?08:16
Tortelrsh machine /usr/sbin/identd08:16
deprave!tell ubuntufun about win32codecs08:16
Doonzcan you guys think of anyreason why i cvant get nautilis to open up?08:16
depravewtf08:16
depravewhat's the activator08:16
medamaybecan anyone tell me which gstreamer plugins are useful for esd?08:17
cyberixlenny_: Too bad. Xmms crashes before I can see the GUI.08:17
HoxzerIm thinking about buying a laptop so I can program in school08:17
deprave!codec08:17
ubotudeprave: Bugger all, i dunno08:17
Tortel!tell Tortel about win32codecs08:17
Duvel!tell ubuntufun about w32codecs08:17
depravethanks08:17
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depravethanks Duvel08:17
anacron!mount08:17
ubotufrom memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives08:17
keithhey i got a q about the boot loader provided on the ubuntu cd08:17
Xinexwhy do the samba daemons fail when I try to start it?08:17
nerdy2medamaybe: gstreamer0.8-esd   ?08:17
Doonzcan anyone recomend another file manager instead of nautilis?08:17
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medamaybenerdy2: nothing more?08:17
keithif i install windows on the other partition for a dual boot and it overwrites the current bootloader (which it will)08:17
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keithcan i just put in the cd and you know replace the boot loader with lilo or something?08:17
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cyberixI'd also need a cd-ripper that'd support tagging the OGG/Flacs. It seems that abcde does not :-(08:18
Doonz!file manager08:18
Duvelanybody installed gdesklets succesfully?08:18
Doonz!filemanager08:18
ubotuDoonz: Are you smoking crack?08:18
Doonzyour a crack bot08:18
nerdy2medamaybe: that's the esd specific part  :)  you probably want other things  like the cdparanoia and vorbis plugins to play certain media08:18
Duvel!botsnack08:18
ubotuthanks duvel :)08:18
Duvela snackbot08:19
depraveanyone have success getting gaim-vv running properly on ubuntu?08:19
Tortel!tell Tortel about w32codecs08:19
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bikram_./test08:19
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medamaybenerdy2: thanks08:21
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nerdy2medamaybe: you can "apt-cache search gstreamer0.8" and see what things you will want  (e.g. get the dvd plugin if you want to...)08:22
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nerdy2medamaybe: or search for gstreamer0.8 in synaptic :)08:22
medamaybecool, I'll try that08:23
bikram_MySQL packages are installed but I am not being able to use mysql. Why?08:23
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XinexWhy do the samba daemons fail to start?08:23
NoUsebikram_ have you started the server?08:24
bikram_i don't know where to look for that.08:25
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NoUsebikram_ make sure you have the server installed apt-get install mysql-server08:27
keithhey if i boot the ubuntu cd will it let me install lilo and just lilO/08:27
bikram_Hey NoUse: I'm trying for that,08:27
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bikram_NoUse: could not install, the error message:-08:28
lenny_Is there a sun jdk package available from apt, or should I just use the bin from the sun web site08:28
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bikram_Package mysql-server is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:28
bikram_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:28
bikram_is only available from another source08:28
bikram_E: Package mysql-server has no installation candidate08:28
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lenny_also, how do you change your login path in ubuntu, i.e. where would I add /usr/java/jdk/bin in the login scripts08:28
lenny_!java08:29
ubotuit has been said that java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:29
keith!lilo08:29
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, keith08:29
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bibliocan anyone let me know how to change the language from english to spanish_08:30
anacroni found cedega deb file somewhere, should i install it instead of cedega cvs?08:30
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pcharkybiblio: apt-get install localeconf08:31
ubuntufunhey i got to go and switch back to windows if i can't play videos in ubuntu08:31
bibliothanks!08:31
pcharkyubuntufun: What's the problem?08:31
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anacronubuntufun: install vlc and they work08:32
ubuntufuni can't play back my videos08:32
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ubuntufunhow is it done ?08:33
TortelAnyone know a good and easy to use/install ident server?08:33
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bigmouth000hey room08:33
pcharkyubuntufun: sudo apt-get install vlc08:33
xhakerTortel.. apt-get install oidentd08:33
titaniululz2how do i restart the entire x interface?08:34
robotgeekbigmouth000: hey, state your problem08:34
ubuntufunthanx pcharky08:34
anacronubuntufun, if you have alsa then use vlc-alsa08:34
xhakertitaniululz, ctrl + alt + backspace08:34
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anacronor "if you use alsa"08:34
floppyearshi08:34
bigmouth000yea ... avi fil probly divx ripped plays great vid but no audio08:34
bigmouth000sound works great otherwise08:34
floppyearsI'm trying to create a ssh key, but I'm not sure if I should use dsa or rsa as the algorithm, could somebody explain me which one is better?08:34
bigmouth000in vlc i.e08:34
robotgeekcrimsun_ is the sound guy, let's see if your timing is right :)08:35
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pcharkyfloppyears: I believe rsa is better, but i'm not sure, and (very bad) I don't know why08:35
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bigmouth000also, does it make a diff if the file is being read from an ntfs partition,08:35
robotgeekbigmouth000: do u have all vlc packages, like vlc-alsa etc?08:35
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nalioth_wrknfloppyears: an ssh key or gpg?08:35
Tortel:(08:36
titaniululz2is there anything else i can try besides ctrl alt backspace to reset things? i'm using freenx to control this computer and occasionally it 'breaks' (stops using the correct font, theme, icons, colors, etc and just basically goes retarded). rebooting the server always fixes it, so there must be something i can reset aside from rebooting the machine (which takes forever). ideas?08:36
anacronbigmouth000, i can watch all my videos from ntfs partition with no problems08:36
bigmouth000i installed only vlc through synaptic08:36
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Tortelit says couldent find package oidentd08:36
floppyearspcharky: what do you mean by very bad ?08:36
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floppyearsnalioth_wrkn: ssh key08:36
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robotgeekbigmouth000: you might want to get vlc-alsa also, and while u are there...get vlc-esd too :)08:36
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XinexI can't get samba to start, can anyone help me?08:36
pcharkyfloppyears: the fact that i don't know why ;)08:36
lenny_how do I permanently add a directory to my path?08:36
nalioth_wrknfloppyears: rsa08:36
bigmouth000looking that up now08:37
pcharkylenny_: sudo gedit /etc/profile08:37
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lenny_cool08:37
lenny_thanx08:37
robotgeekbigmouth000: sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-alsa08:37
monkey89has anyone gotten freenx to work in breezy?08:37
floppyearspcharky: thanks though08:37
floppyearsnalioth_wrkn: thanks08:37
bigmouth000robotgeek, thanks .. got that08:37
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bytefooshould i be worried that chmod is not found when booting up?08:38
bigmouth000aah .. problem solved, thanks robotgeek08:38
pcharkybytefoo: what exactly to you mean by "booting up"08:38
robotgeekbigmouth000: it's a good idea to use aptitude, it get's all relevent packages automagically08:38
bytefoowell when i load the kernel, after group08:38
robotgeekbigmouth000: great!08:38
bytefooits like /init : line 89 : chmod : not found08:39
bytefooor something like that08:39
XinexI can't get samba to start, can anyone help me?08:39
bytefoogroup = grub08:39
pcharkybytefoo: I guess that's quite bad :(08:39
bytefoo:-/08:39
pcharkybytefoo: is it there when the system is fully booted?08:40
bytefooim about to check :o08:40
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bytefooyah08:40
bytefooit's wierd08:40
bytefooi guess i shouldn't worry :|08:40
lenny_I'm getting some wierd xml error all the time and its starting to freak me out.  I am getting the same thing from different sites08:41
lenny_I think every time I send form data08:41
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Tortelanyone know any other ident servers besides oident and xident?08:42
crimsunapt-cache search identd08:43
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Deterministany idea if amule creates the same type of .part files and .met files the windows official emule client does?08:44
Tm_Tum, how usable breezy is atm?08:44
crimsunTm_T, quite.08:44
XinexHow do I start samba?08:44
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crimsunXinex, sudo invoke-rc.d samba start08:44
Tm_Tcrimsun: ok, so I'll test it some day soon then :)08:44
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lenny_XML Parsing Error: syntax error08:45
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lenny_Location: chrome://global/content.commonDialog.xul08:45
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lenny_Line Number 1, Column 1:08:45
lenny_ing);08:45
DeterministTortel, you trying to get on dalnet?08:45
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Xinexcrimsun, didn't work08:45
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Xinexstarting samba daemons.. [fail] 08:46
ncpi have just setup postfix on a ubuntu an it works fine, but if use nmap port 25 i closed, why is that? all other ports is open...08:46
crimsunXinex, pgrep smbd08:46
ncpfrom another client, lan and wan08:46
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ncpan there is no firewall blocking08:46
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Xinexcrimsun, it didn't return anything08:47
crimsunXinex, is samba installed?08:47
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Xinexyes08:47
TortelDeterminist Tortel, you trying to get on dalnet? <-No, Quakenet08:47
Torteli can connect, but it takes 30-40 tries08:47
ReleaseXapt-get install sun-j2re1.5 returns couln't find package, what's the problem?08:48
Goshawkwhere is glade-- located?08:48
pcharkyXinex: Look for samba errors with: tail -n 20 /var/log/syslog08:48
confreyhi everybody08:48
emileReleaseX: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:48
Goshawkin which package?08:48
DeterministTortel, i know how that's like.08:48
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confreyhow can I read the command of a menu item in gnome?08:48
DeterministTortel, try www.dal.net , they have links to good ident servers there you can use08:48
TortelAnd i *should* have installed a ident server, but it doesnt want to ork08:48
Tortelok08:49
pcharkyGoshawk: glade-208:49
Xinexpcharky, what am I looking for?08:49
Goshawkpcharky, are you sure?08:49
Goshawki installed it an i have an error08:49
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pcharkyGoshawk: apt-cache show glade-208:49
pcharkyXinex: can you post the output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:49
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mz2where could i adjust the time delay for sudo? so that i shouldn't have to write the password all the time08:50
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Xinexyeah pcharky, one sec08:50
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Xinexpcharky, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/163908:52
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vict0rdoes anyone know where the backport servers are now?08:53
vict0ror have they simply ceased to be?08:54
Goshawkpcharky, same error08:54
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Goshawkpcharky, glade-- not found08:54
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titaniululzcan anyone recommend a good editor? DON'T SAY VI, I HATE IT >:(08:54
vict0rvim then08:54
Goshawktitaniululz, nano08:54
xhakervict0r, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org08:54
titaniululzvict0r, argh i hate you08:54
pcharkyXinex: hmm, nothing in there. anything in /var/log/samba/smbd.log?08:54
titaniululzGoshawk, nano is alright but is there something more 'complete' ie for programming in?08:54
pcharkyGoshawk: it's in universe08:54
xhakertitaniululz, GUI or Console?08:54
pcharky!repositories08:54
ubotuwell, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:54
Goshawktitaniululz, use and ide instead08:55
titaniululzxhaker: preferably console but if you know of some nice gui ones i'd take those as well :)08:55
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Goshawktitaniululz, or the gnome edit tool08:55
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titaniululzgedit = the gnome edit tool?08:55
Goshawktitaniululz, yep08:55
illscihey where does ubuntu read and write its iptables rules too ?08:55
titaniululzyeah i was using it earlier, it's pretty nice08:55
xhakergedit is pretty good. scite is another one.. GUI08:55
Goshawktitaniululz, if you wanna program08:55
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Xinexpcharky, it isn't there08:55
Goshawktitaniululz, use a ide instead08:55
xhakerconsole.. there is not much to choose from.. nano or vi08:55
titaniululzany other general purpose editors and/or ide's you would recommend? i'm used to eclipse and MS VS.net on windows08:55
Goshawktitaniululz, like anjuta for c7c++08:55
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titaniululzinstalling scite now to try it out08:56
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xhakertitaniululz, you can use eclipse on ubuntu, and install the cdt plugin to code c++08:56
pcharkyXinex: are you sure you've samba installed? check: dpkg -l samba08:56
xhakerwhat languages do you usually code?08:57
titaniululzxhaker, this machine is a p3 450 with 256mb of ram. i'd rather not use eclipse :)08:57
xhakerhehe08:57
titaniululzjava, c, c++. learning ruby and python right now08:57
ReleaseXemile: any idea when hoary-extras is going to be working again?08:57
xhakeri need a good python IDE/Editor08:57
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xhakeri'm using gedit now08:57
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xhakeri heard Eric is cool08:57
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Tortelheh08:58
Tortelmy computer is a 3.27ghz P4 w/1gig o ram08:58
davrotitaniululz: for python try boa-constructor08:58
emileReleaseX: no i haven't i just had the same problem two days ago and i build a java package using that wiki08:58
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emileReleaseX: now azureus is running ;-)08:58
xhakerdavro, boa constructor has debugging capabilities?08:58
Xinexpcharky, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/164008:59
titaniululzscite seems fairly nice, much faster than gedit08:59
Goshawkpcharky, i know that glade-2 is in the universe, i've it installed and there is not any glade-- executable08:59
tahorgGoshawk: gazpacho is better09:00
titaniululzdavro, how heavy is it?09:00
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xhakertitaniululz, i cant use scite now, it's kinda broken in breezy09:00
Goshawktahorg, ok i've it, and i don't find how to build the source09:00
pcharkyGoshawk: type glade, then hit the <tab> key numerous times ;)09:00
pcharkyGoshawk: it's there if you installed glade-209:00
unk^lapwhat do i type to delete a mount, i only got a empty folder... ?09:00
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tahorgGoshawk: build the source ?09:01
titaniululzxhaker, :(09:01
titaniululzi'm going to install boa i guess, see how it is09:01
davropersonally have only used boa-constructor a few time's under ubuntu, debbugging it there, runs nice on my 1.4gig laptop09:02
Goshawktahorg, yep build the source of the gui that i've done09:02
xhakertitaniululz, tell me when you get there :P09:02
pcharkyXinex: sorry, it's  /var/log/samba/log.smbd09:02
titaniululzalso know of any good ruby ides i can use in ubuntu?09:02
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Tortelok, i installed oidentd using the ./configure, make, make install commands, is that all i should do?09:02
fraggstaI have a problem with my shiny new mp3 player which should connect via USB..09:02
tahorgGoshawk: gazpacho gives you a .glade file, wich is a description of you interface in xml09:02
Goshawkpcharky, i'm developing on amd64 and installing glade-2 there is only the glade-2 executable09:02
fraggstaInstead of working, get get:09:02
tahorgGoshawk: you have to import it with libglade09:02
fraggstausb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 309:02
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fraggstausb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -7109:02
titaniululzholy moley boa needs a lot of stuff. "After unpacking 25.5MB of additional disk space will be used." :O09:02
Goshawktahorg, yep, my problem is that i've not the glade-- executable to build the source09:03
pcharkyGoshawk: that's the executable for glade2 then..09:03
davrotitaniululz: have been learning ruby myself, i also lust to find an ide for ruby.09:03
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Xinexpcharky, there's a bunch of errors there09:03
tahorgGoshawk: it's a really bad idea to "build the source" using glade09:03
pcharkyGoshawk: if you need 1, install the "glade" package.09:03
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pcharkyXinex: post?09:03
fraggstaso can't I just force a device descriptor or..something?09:04
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Goshawktahorg, so how should i build the sources of my gui?09:04
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tahorgGoshawk: you don't need this09:04
Goshawktahooie, pcharky : glade-2 wants glade-- to build my sources...09:04
Xinexpcharky, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/164109:04
tahorgGoshawk: you want to build your app in C ?09:04
Goshawktahorg, c++09:04
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tahorgGoshawk: well, find a tutorial for libglade in c++09:05
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tahorgyou don't want glade-- generating the callback for you09:05
pcharkyXinex: The logfile sais you have a section without any parameters in it.09:06
Xinexok...09:06
tahorgGoshawk:09:06
tahorgoops09:06
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Xinexso what should I do pcharky?09:07
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pcharkyXinex: Check out which section is empty, and either fill it, or remove it: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf09:07
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vict0rok got them working.... thanks09:08
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ncpi have just setup postfix on ubuntu, everything works fine, but port 25 isn't it open, when postfix i running? no firewall is blocking, if i nmap its just closed because i have port 25 open in my firewall, any ideas?09:08
titaniumthis supposedly does python/ruby -- www.widestudio.org09:09
pcharkyXinex: the samba configuration is like windows' .ini files. sections are specified by [] 09:09
xhakertitanium, that one is great.. but is not free09:09
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Xinexok pcharky, but it's weird, # is only for a comment on a single line, right?09:09
titaniumxhaker, it looks free, the source is available09:09
Newguyhow do i access Realplayer? Using sudo apt-get install Realplayer I am told that I already have the newest version09:10
rob_pncp:  Probably because Postfix on Ubuntu is setup by default to only listen on local loopback (127.0.0.1).09:10
pcharkyXinex: I believe so09:10
Newguyhowever, I can't find it in Gnome09:10
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Belutzis there a good equalizer soft for gnome?09:11
ncprob_p: okay :\09:11
Newguyalso, how do i execute a .bin file in ubuntu09:12
landotterNewguy: run "realplay"09:12
anacroni downloaded some font's where should i put them to make them work?, or does it matter?09:12
naliothNewguy: there is a wiki article on realplayer09:12
landotterput fonts in a directory named .fonts in your home directory.09:12
naliothNewguy: wiki.ubuntu.com09:12
anacronthanks09:12
Newguythanks09:12
Xinexyes!!! thanks pcharky09:13
landotterRealplayer10 doesn't like esd in Gnome, so you'll have to do a "killall esd" before running "realplay"09:13
XinexIt was an messed up shared folder09:13
rob_pncp:  Did you need it to listen on other interfaces?  If so, have a look at the config file (/etc/postfix/main.cf) and modify it appropriately.09:13
titaniumhow do you add things to the gnome menu?09:13
pcharkylandotter: unless Newguy's got a sb card.09:13
naliothtitanium: smeg menu editor09:14
naliothtitanium: check your priv msgs09:14
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titaniumthanks09:15
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iobosshii09:16
iobosswhere i found cedega?09:16
ncprob_p: no just want i to accept incomming connections to it, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-June/091017.html there it says i just have to change 2 lines to the one below, but is correkt, smtp inet n - - - - smtpd09:16
pcharkyioboss: http://www.transgaming.com09:17
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linuxdaveI booted up for the first time a few minutes ago. The first thing I wanted to do was to configure the network. Clicking "Configure", I am aksed for the root password. My regular user pass doesn't work, and pressing enter doesn't work. I know root is disabled by default, do I really have to enable it to use the GUI config stuff?09:17
naliothlinuxdave: check your PMs09:17
ReleaseXanyone know when hoary-extras is going to be working again?09:17
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Xeni was hoping someone could help me get my prism2 based usb wireless card working? ive tried everything i could see on the forum with wlanctl-ng etc, the best i can do is make the led blink09:19
theineHi, is there a TeX channel on freenode?09:19
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GoClickI've got an isssue, I installed samba, set the security to user and I can see the server on the windows machine but when I click on it it asks me for my username and password which are the same on the Windows and the Ubuntu machine but it doesn't accept it09:21
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adjacent_theine: #LaTex?09:21
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lJlolelgrub doesn't load my window drive, how do  i replace grub with lilo (lilo worked)09:21
landotterpcharky, how does a sb card deal with esd/RP differently? :S09:22
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theineadjacent, thanks, me idiot tried #tex and #tetex...09:23
iobosswhere i found cedega for 64 bit???09:23
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iobossit exist?09:23
naliothioboss: you will look for 64bit cedega for a long time09:23
iobossthere isn't????09:24
ioboss:09:24
bluefoxicynope09:24
bluefoxicy64 bit wine doesn't work.09:24
iobossnope?09:24
iobossO_O09:24
iobossnoooooooooooooooooooooooooo09:24
carthik At http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver : It says Insert the following line into the new file09:24
Dekkardis anyone here running e17?09:24
iobosswhy.. :09:24
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carthiksystem_username = "network username"09:24
bluefoxicyif they made wine or its derivatives 64 bit, it wouldn't run 32 bit windows apps.09:24
carthikso should I be typing exactly that text, or something like < carthik = "network username" > or < carthik = "carthik" > ?09:24
naliothcarthik: be careful what you get from ubuntuguide09:25
GoClickDoes anyone know why DNS would be really slow on the Linux machines (both Ubuntu and Fedora) in the same office as Windows machines for which DNS is fast?09:25
carthiknalioth, okay so what do I follow or do then?09:26
bluefoxicyGoClick:  no idea.  Install bind9 though to speed it up?09:26
robotgeekcarthik: hi09:26
theineSorry for asking in here, but is there a way to let latex write its dvi output to stdout?09:26
nerdy2GoClick: is it really the dns  (host  <any hostname> is slow?)09:26
robotgeektheine: you mean to log file?09:27
iobosssorry but now i can install cedega 32 bit if my ubuntu is 6409:27
GoClicknerdy2, Yeah it's the lookups that are slow09:27
theinerobotgeek, well, actually i'd like to pipe the dvi file to dvips (or rather dvipng)09:27
naliothcarthik: if you come to ubuntu from another distro, take the guide for what it is, if you are new to linux, seek other sources (like wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation)09:28
ncpi'm not sure how to change the postfix master.cf so postfix allows connections on port 25, anyone know a guide ect. ?09:28
nerdy2GoClick: and the lookups are fast (with nslookup or whatever) on the windows machines?   what sort of dns server is running?09:29
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ReleaseXanyone know when hoary-extras is going to be working again?09:29
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vict0rdoes anyone have the a site where i can get a deb java package?09:30
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robotgeektheine: okay, explain it to be...u get the dvi file after u run the latex command, what do u want to do after that?09:30
nalioths_dogvict0r: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 09:31
GoClicknerdy2, their servers from our provider and on windows lookups with nslookup are fast and on linux they are not09:31
GoClickI just got this for some reason when running gedit from my root terminal09:31
GoClick(gedit:8830): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:09:31
GoClickAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.09:31
theinerobotgeek, the point is that i don't want to get the dvi file but pipe it directly to dvips09:31
nerdy2GoClick: that's because of how X authentication works, if you really want to run an X program as a different user, copy over your .Xauthority file say09:32
robotgeektheine: then just pipe it to that file latex <file> | dvipng ?09:32
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vict0ryah right...09:32
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nerdy2GoClick: and of course be wary that many gui programs are not written with running as root in mind09:32
naliothvict0r: install "fakeroot" and then follow the instructions the dog sent ya09:33
NewguyOk, yet another question... I have installed RealPlayer but still have no .mpg support... how do I go about getting support for mpg, avi, and wmv?09:33
naliothGoClick: nerdy2 has got that right, some guis will tear up your homedir when they're run as root09:33
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robotgeektheine: nope, that doesn't work..gimme a minute09:34
theinerobotgeek, okidoki09:34
lJlolelcan i just apt-get install lilo and that will replace grub?09:34
robotgeektheine: but why do u want to do that?09:34
nerdy2GoClick: hmm can't think of a reason offhand the lookups would be slow...  is everything alright at the network level (are lookups the only slow thing, is there packet loss, is there a firewall somewhere and if so is it set up correctly?)09:35
theinerobotgeek, it would simply be neater...09:36
nerdy2GoClick: and of course it's always possible that the windows lookups are fast because they are caching them   (have you tried to defeat this by comparing the times of nslookup/host  with names you haven't looked up recently?)09:36
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DekaPinkhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513&page=2&pp=10&highlight=qemu <- I'm trying to do this, but it keeps doing this when I try to checkinstall: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/164309:36
paulproteuslJlolel: You should apt-get remove grub first.09:36
paulproteuslJlolel: But be afraid of mucking too much with the boot process.09:36
theinerobotgeek, but if there's no trivial way of doing that I could also live with creating a temporary dvi file...09:36
naliothDekaPink: you have 2 options: dont install it, or install using "make install"09:38
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naliothDekaPink: although i'm sure you can --force install with dpkg, i've just never had any luck with that09:38
GoClicknerdy2,  yes even on hostnames that are never looked up before :(09:38
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nitinguys, what do you think is the recommended permissions level (chmod xxx) for files that a storage system creates - > admins and php should be able to read,modify,delete but others shouldnt09:38
DekaPinknalioth: Thanks. :)09:39
GoClickDoes anyone know why Samba wouldn't authenticate in (security=user mode) when the username and password are exactly the same?09:39
GoClickIt didn't seem to log anything to the log file for that ip address either, no failed atempt or anything09:39
robotgeektheine: i dunno, what i tht should work doesn't :(09:39
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GoClickalso if someone could post their sources.list file to a pastebin with the extras universe I'd appreciate it because I think mine got buggered09:40
robotgeektheine: but, why can't you just run all those commands in a script09:40
lJlolelpaulproteus, yea, i am a bit afraid, any major tips?09:41
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athlon!amarok09:41
ubotu[amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/09:41
nerdy2GoClick: no idea about the lookups then,  but you can run your own nameserver (or if you want to use theirs,  run your own as a caching proxy)09:41
nerdy2GoClick: and that's probably a reasonable thing to do if their setup is buggered09:42
GoClickThat's just sad09:42
GoClickOh well09:42
Deterministi'll never understand why ubuntu installs chinese/korean/japanese/indic/punjabi or whatever fonts by default. cant be all that hard putting some extra screen that asks what bloody fonts you want installed other than the default english ones.09:42
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athlonany of you know if amarok 1.3 is going to be backported to hoary soon ?09:42
GoClicknerdy2, do you know why samba would be being weird?09:42
jaramillohello there09:42
theinerobotgeek, i'm already doing that of course09:42
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robotgeektheine: :)09:42
crimsunDeterminist, we're open to suggestions for Breezy+109:42
paulproteuslJlolel: Well, why stop using GRUB?09:43
paulproteusIt's fine, isn't it?09:43
chris_unfalterinis anyone familiar with the averatec 5400?09:43
Deterministcrimsun, good, where can i drop off comments? i'll be more than happy to try and assist in implementing these changes, cept i suppose it'll take me a while to get going09:43
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crimsunDeterminist, -devel mailing list, bugzilla, etc.09:44
Hikaru79Wheee, I'm on the Breezy LiveCD :)09:44
lJlolelpaulproteus, grub wasnt loading my XP drive (lilo did ona  previous ubuntu install)09:44
unk^lapWhat do i type to remove folders ?09:44
Deterministcrimsun, thanks09:44
nerdy2GoClick: i don't,  my experience with samba (when trying to deal with windows computers) is to mess around with it, and it'll randomly get better/worse  (maybe reboot the windows comp. if you feel like it)     [it works fine with other samba things, and fwiw the same advice goes for trying to get windows computers to play nice with each other :)] 09:44
paulproteuslJlolel: Well, you could try configuring grub. :)09:44
jaramillohow do i install gl headers ? ;o09:44
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jaramillowhats the name of the package09:44
chris_unfalterinI'm having trouble getting my Averatec 5400 laptop to run the Ubuntu install CD.09:44
chris_unfalterinIs this the wrong place to ask?09:45
lJlolelpaulproteus, it had windows xp as a drive, but when i select it , it says drive type unknown or something09:45
gigaclonno09:45
nerdy2[actually even better advice for getting windows computers to play nice with each other is to install a samba machine on the same lan and mess around with the parameters so that they defer to it for everything] 09:45
GoClicknerdy2, I did reboot both machines, it's been doing this for days :(09:45
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lJlolelpaulproteus, shit, install-mbr failed: system may not be bootable...09:45
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chris_unfalterinanyone?09:45
janne__Help needed...Can u tell me where i get libbluecurve.so09:45
nerdy2GoClick: hmm, smbclient has a debuglevel parameter09:46
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paulproteuschris_unfalterin: Be more specific about your problem.09:46
lJlolelpaulproteus, okay, fixed, nowi'm restarting, if it doesn't boot i can always boot from disk right?09:46
nerdy2GoClick: so try it with -d 5 or -d 10 ...09:46
janne__synaptic: check! Repositors: some missing?09:46
paulproteuslJlolel: Yeah, e.g. the Live CD.09:46
GoClicknerdy2,  what would I type in?09:46
lJlolelpaulproteus, thanks, seeya09:46
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crimsunjanne__, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libbluecurve.so&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i38609:47
nerdy2GoClick: sorry 5 is too high :),   try "smbclient -d 3  [service] "09:47
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GoClickWhat do you mean by [service]  ?09:47
chris_unfalterinpaulproteus:  I had XP installed on my Averatec 5400 laptop.  I removed the hard drive, put it in an external adapter, and formatted it completely with another laptop running Ubuntu.  Now the 5400 won't boot from either the Ubuntu install CD, or an XP install CD.09:47
poningruguys question09:47
nerdy2where service is something like \\computer\share      (put quotes around it to escape \ for the shell)09:47
poningruis firefox 1.5 going to make it into hoary?09:48
nerdy2sorry, where [service]  is that ...09:48
poningrucause its going to be released in 2.009:48
poningruerr september09:48
chris_unfalterin(of course, I reinserted the HDD into the 5400 first)09:48
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dennis_Is there a way to play .wmv files in ubuntu?09:48
nerdy2(smbclient -d 3 "\\computer\share")09:48
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dennis_Totem plays the sound just not the video09:48
nerdy2dennis_: try totem-xine09:48
poningrudennis_: package: totem-xine09:48
dennis_k09:48
janne__ok...i found it....09:49
Doonzwhats the command to link a folder to another folder?09:49
janne__Thanks!09:49
nerdy2Doonz: ln09:49
spolaDoonz, make a soft link, ln -s09:49
Doonzln dir dir09:49
Hikaru79I'm on the breezy livecd and it seems to be missing the Nautilus "Open Terminal Here" right-click menu entry ... this WILL be in the actual Breezy install, right? Since I found it uber-useful!!09:49
chris_unfalterinDoes anyone have any ideas?09:49
Doonzand how do i make that link permenant09:49
nerdy2Doonz: ln -s dir dir09:49
spolachris_unfalterin, what does the laptop say? just blank screen? any errors at all?09:50
GoClicknerdy2, what do I put for [service]  the server is ninja the workgroup is saleient09:50
GoClickI did \\ninja\ and didn't get anything09:50
nerdy2Doonz: that link will be permanent (it will persist until you delete the link)  --   (however if you delete the original directory that will break the link)09:50
GoClicknoah@babyninja:/var/log$ smbclient -d 3 \\ninja\noah\09:51
GoClick>09:51
poningruchris_unfalterin: what file system did you format it as?09:51
chris_unfalterinOK, it is blank, except for a blinkin underscore at the top left.  The CD drive makes an odd sound (I know it works, though!) a bunch of times, then gives up, and it says at the top left, "Operating System not found"09:51
chris_unfalterinI left it completely unpartitioned09:51
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poningruchris_unfalterin: thats because it doesnt have an operating system09:51
nerdy2GoClick: quote it,   "\\ninja\noah\"09:51
chris_unfalterinright...09:51
dennis_well09:52
dennis_the xine thing didn't work09:52
dennis_:/09:52
poningruyou sure you did put an install cd in?09:52
dennis_It opens the file and then closes it09:52
GoClicknerdy2, I still get a >09:52
Doonzsweet thnx guys09:52
chris_unfalterinbut the ubuntu/xp CDs should boot w/ or w/o OS09:52
nerdy2dennis_: it will,  you should also install w32codecs09:52
dennis_I already did09:52
dennis_;?09:52
nerdy2oh ok09:52
dennis_A while ago09:52
dennis_I think xine fucked everything up :/09:52
poningruchris_unfalterin: you sure the cdrom is supposed to be checked for boot?09:52
poningrucheck the bios09:52
poningrumake sure the cdrom is before the hd09:52
GoClicknoah@babyninja:/var/log$ noahsmbclient -d 3 "\\ninja\noah\"09:53
GoClick>09:53
chris_unfalterinponingru: boot order: CD --> HDD --> external device09:53
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poningruthen it has to be either a bad cd or a bad cd drive09:53
lJlolelpaulproteus, okay, grub was still there (even though i removed it) lilo wasnt, even thoughi wrote to mbr....09:53
poningrusince you tried xp install cd and an ubuntu install cd09:53
poningruI would say that its a bad cd driver09:53
chris_unfalterinponingru: the CD drive is good, I'm absolutely positive.  And I have a stack of ten ubuntu cds...none work'09:53
nerdy2dennis_: hmm, totem-xine + w32codecs should work   [i've got that here]        [there is an alternative of messing with pitfdll + totem-gstreamer but that's not for mortals :)] 09:54
paulproteuslJlolel: Okay, good, I guess.09:54
lJlolelpaulproteus, i'm just going to change BIOS boot order when i want to switch drives09:54
dennis_:/09:54
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dennis_Well I have all the w32 codecs09:54
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dennis_and just installed totem-xine09:54
dennis_And totem won't play it09:54
paulproteusdennis_: Did you quit and reopen totem?09:54
dennis_Yes09:54
poningruchris_unfalterin: try a bootable cd like the live cd09:54
poningruor knoppix09:54
dennis_Now all totem does is open and close when I try and view that file09:54
poningruor system rescue09:54
chris_unfalterinponingru: both the XP and Ubuntu CDs worked on the laptop when I had an XP partition09:55
nerdy2GoClick: sorry the quoting is doing bad things,  try smbclient -d 3  \\\\ninja\\noah09:55
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nerdy2GoClick: or smbclient -d 3 "\\ninja\noah"09:55
chris_unfalterinShould I pull the HDD out again, add three partitions (ntfs, swap, ext3), and try again?09:55
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poningruchris_unfalterin: it may be as simple as a tiny dirt particle on the head09:55
GoClicknerdy2, that first one gave me some output, give me some time to read it09:56
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poningrutry a presurised air can on the cd head09:56
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chris_unfalterinponingru: oh...ok, I'll try that.  I have been working lying on a carpet...09:56
frogtone25does anyone know where i can get a brushed metal color scheme for kde at09:56
poningrumake sure to be extremely careful09:57
frogtone25kdelook.org doesnt have any09:57
poningrucause those things on a laptop are extremel flimsy09:57
GoClicknerdy2, it would seem that it doesn't like my username and password combo however it's the combo I use to logon to this machine and the windows machine09:57
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nerdy2GoClick: try it in uppercase09:57
chris_unfalterinponingru:oh?09:57
GoClicknerdy2,  which part? my username and password are both all lowercase (both machines)09:58
poningruyeah the cd drive if its a pull out then is flimsy09:58
naliothfrogtone25: kde-art.com, i believe09:58
poningruatleast mine is, compaq 214009:58
poningruand I treat it like a baby09:58
leonelI'm sad !    Mono will be on  Ubuntu Breezy09:58
nerdy2GoClick: try uppercasing the password, sorry09:58
lJlolelis it bad to change the BIOS settings many times?09:59
GoClicknerdy2,  fails09:59
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nerdy2GoClick: ok, that shouldn't have had any effect anyways09:59
poningruleonel: and thats bad because?09:59
chris_unfalterinponingru: ok i dusted the laser head and that's not it09:59
leonelponingru, it's mono  and mono it's a big mistake on free software09:59
GoClickWell this is infuriating09:59
GoClickIt's not like I don't have access to my own home dir either :P10:00
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frogtone25there is no kde-art.com10:00
GoClicknerdy2, would you mind posting your sources.list file to the pastebin for me?10:00
poningruchris_unfalterin: you sure the cds are not dirty or anything?10:00
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naliothfrogtone25: kde-look.com (i dont run kde)10:00
chris_unfalterinponingru:  Will any install CD, XP/Ubuntu/whatever, not work if the HDD is completely formatted (ie no partitions)?10:00
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spolachris_unfalterin, nah that won't have any effect10:01
frogtone25kdelook.com doesnt have a brushed metal color scheme10:01
poningruit should not matter10:01
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poningrucurses I have a class right now10:01
poningruchris_unfalterin: sorry dude I am out of ideas10:01
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poningrujust for fun try system rescue cd10:01
poningrugoogle it10:01
nerdy2GoClick: i don't really have anything interesting,  the only interesting line is "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe10:01
nerdy2"      (and i have a sister deb-src line for that, and the apt repo for w32codecs)10:01
chris_unfalterinponingru: Because when I had an XP partition, before I started all of this dualboot business, the bott disks worked fine10:01
GoClicknerdy2, no it's just my file is mangled10:01
seliniumHi,  Seveas. You were going to help with my first compile last night. Any chance you could have a look know?10:02
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chris_unfalterinOK, thanks anyhow.  Can anyone else help?10:02
GoClicknerdy2, and for some reason I can't get extras either which is bad because I need Java :P10:02
seliniumnow*10:02
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spolachris_unfalterin, so if i understand then stuff stopped working after you opened it to take out the hd?10:02
seliniumHI all, anyone here got bluetooth working?10:03
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spolamaybe you fubar'd it10:03
LokeDKHi. How do I remove kde and its packages? i just installed kde .. and not kubuntu-desktop10:04
GoClickCould SOMEBODY who has the horay-extras post their /etc/apt/sources.list file to the pasebin at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ so I can fix mine?10:04
nerdy2GoClick: well i don't have the extras in mine10:04
Hikaru79LokeDK, just install kubuntu-desktop over it. It will skip kde because it's already installed. No worries :)10:04
chris_unfalterinI took out the HD, made it external with a USB adapter, and was able to read files, etc. on another Ubuntu laptop10:04
nerdy2GoClick: and i don't know how to use the pastebin :),  but my sources.list is at http://jgarrett.org/sources.list10:04
GoClicknerdy2, ok, think I should uninstall and reinstall samba?10:04
selinium!tell GoClick about repos10:04
chris_unfalterinthen i formatted it while external, and replaced it within the 540010:05
nerdy2GoClick: doubtful that will help10:05
spolalol, doesn't know how to use the pastebin but can publish the data on a http server10:05
LokeDKHikaru79, but I want to get rid of it.. not get kubuntu-desktop.. because i prefer xfce10:05
GoClickselinium, yes very nice thank you I've read it, that doesn't fix the fact that someone mangled my file10:05
seliniumGoClick: the official list can be found there10:05
seliniumGoClick: Have you read the info?10:05
seliniumGoClick: The http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 bit?10:06
GoClickMan I wish this DNS weren't so slow10:06
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GoClickThank you selinium10:07
seliniumGoClick: np10:07
_adamDoes kubuntu have issues with 64bit?10:07
_adamCause I keep getting lockups10:07
_adamprimarily when I'm online, everything freezes except for the mouse10:07
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GoClick_adam,  I don't use it myself I'm an i386 GNOME man myself but I've heard a few people complain about lockups with KDE on 64 so it's a possability10:08
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naliothchris_unfalterin: sounds like you may have other hardware trouble10:09
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user01what males ubuntu better then slack for eg?10:09
jasoncohenwhat's the difference between flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree. I have flashplugin-nonfree installed and flash works. don't both packages provide flash?10:09
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Ignignokthello, i am new to the whol linux scene, and i am wondering if it is possible to play .wmv , for i cannot seem to get any to work10:10
GoClickI added the horay-extras repo refreshed my list and searched for j2re and got no packages10:10
naliothjasoncohen: what does "apt-cache showpkg" tell about each one?10:10
seliniumjasoncohen: nonfree is from Macromedia and is not open source. Flashplayer is open source10:10
twibbleranybody help trying to get skype working and it is a problem with esd when changed as per ns on wiki I get this message when testing sound ...Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'10:10
user01to GoClick dnld all from www.sun.com10:11
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GoClickuser01, is it hard to install? I'm just getting into Linux, and I need my boss to be able to replicate the setup later10:11
jasoncohenselinium, then why are they bothin multiverse?10:11
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GoClickuser01, plus what worries me is that if it can't find it now doesn't that mean it's not searching the extras?10:11
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chris_unfalterinok, i'm going to externalize it again, hook it up to this ubuntu laptop i'm using, reformat, and re-internalize10:12
jasoncohenselinium, if flashplayer-mozilla is open source it should be in main or universe- not multiverse10:12
chris_unfalterincheerio.  I'll probably be back,10:12
durt!java10:12
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:12
GoClickdurt,  I've read it, I've added horay-extras and refreshed my lists and then I search for jre and sun- and get NO packages10:13
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jasoncohenGoClick, search for j2re10:14
jasoncohenGoClick, sun-j2re1.510:14
seliniumGoClick look at http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/    or apply http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/ ./ to your sources.list10:14
GoClickjasoncohen, done, no packages10:14
jasoncohenGoClick, then you haven't added hoary-extras or you didn't reload10:14
durtGoClick: its not in extras anymore, but you can find it at seveas... something let me check10:14
seliniumGoClick:  :)10:14
jasoncohendurt, it's still in extras10:14
GoClickjasoncohen, I have and I have would you like me to take a screenshot, :P10:15
jasoncohensorry, not extras10:15
jasoncohenit's in backports10:15
LasseLi got my java from backports10:15
GoClickdurt, then shouldn't someone update the wiki?10:15
jasoncohenGoClick, sorry, you need to install from backports10:15
chris_unfalterinIs anyone here an official Ubuntu developer (ie hired by Canonical)10:16
GoClickselinium, how do I add that reposatory, what's the line?10:16
LasseL*someone* is always you :)10:16
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LasseL!backports10:16
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports10:16
seliniumGoClick: Through Synaptic or through an editor?10:16
GoClickselinium, either or10:16
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jasoncohenGoClick, once you add it , you probably want to disable backports10:16
Ignignoktwhere can i find the w32 codecs at?10:16
Frafrahi all10:16
jasoncohenor you won't get security updates for gaim and other packages10:17
jasoncohenIgnignokt, it's in hoary-extras10:17
jasoncohen!tell Ignignokt about multimedia repositories10:17
seliniumGoClick: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:17
jasoncohen!tell Ignignokt about multimedia10:17
chris_unfalterinAgain, Is anyone here an official Ubuntu developer (ie hired by Canonical)?  I must give my mad props.10:17
Ignignoktk ty, mad eprops10:17
LasseLjasoncohen, you what?10:17
Ignignoktim new to the whole linux scene.10:17
Frafrai need to download build-essential package and him dependency because i must install it on a pc that haven't a internet connection. what i should do?10:18
chris_unfalterinIgnignokt: you develop for Ubuntu?10:18
GoClickselinium, done10:18
LasseLjasoncohen, you don't get security updates if you have backports enabled??10:18
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rebugcan ubuntu read ufs2 disks?10:19
hussamif I uninstall firestarter + dpkg --purge firestarter, I should still be protected but Iptables firewall?10:20
chris_unfalterinI LOVE UBUNTU!!!10:20
durtheres where i got java: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/10:20
jasoncohenLasseL, you won't get security updates for backport packages10:20
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rebugi'm considering installing ubuntu 5.04 over a freebsd 5 install, but need to know if my ufs2 formatted disks will be available10:21
jasoncohenLasseL, for example, if you install firefox and gaim from backports when a security update comes out for hoary, you won't get it10:21
user01WHAT MAKES UBUNTU SO GOOD I SAY SLACK BETTER!10:21
nightswimit's the users that use a lot of caps that makes slack crap10:21
jasoncohenLasseL, that's because backports has newer packages from breezy (which you generall don't need). I only use backports if there's a package that's not available in hoary like smeg10:21
naliothhussam: without iptables, your box will not work. so firestarter is just a frontend to manipulate them10:21
spolauser01, then use slack, this ain't the inquisition y'know10:21
user01Ubuntu sucks distro really....confesss it.10:21
chris_unfalterindoes anyone know why gparted might hang while I mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1/ ?10:22
user01because ubuntu is a mess10:22
rebugnobody expects choice in their linux distributions!10:22
jasoncohenLasseL, for example backports has gaim 1.40 from breezy and hoary has 1.1.4 but hoary's 1.14 has all the security patches through gaim 1.5. backport's 1.4 is vulnerable to several DoS's10:22
chris_unfalterinrebug: ???10:22
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chris_unfalterinI repeat: does anyone know why gparted might hang while I mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1/ ?10:23
user01yeah...ok folks I'm leaving your kindergarden10:23
zer0`it asks for username and pass when i try to get java jre from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/10:23
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melodie_:quit10:23
spolayou'll be missed </sarcasm>10:23
LasseLjasoncohen, what a mess10:23
jasoncohenso, blackdown java can be packaged by ubuntu but not the official java package?10:23
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jasoncohenLasseL, well, my recommendation is just not to use backports unless you need it10:23
crimsunheh10:24
jasoncohenLasseL, there are very few packages that you would really need from backports. Once you have them, you can disable it10:24
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rebugchris_unfalterin: amongst our weaponry are such elements as fear, surprise, etc...10:24
LasseLjasoncohen, I see, I just hate to have to think about it10:24
Frafraexcuseme, if i want install build-essential, what packages i need?10:24
crimsunFrafra, just build-essential10:24
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jasoncohenLasseL, this won't really be an issue with breezy. Breezy will include smeg and several other packages currently missing from hoary obviating the need for backports10:25
Frafracrimsun: build-install want gcc ecc.. i must download all the packages that it want, because i must install they on a pc with no internet connection10:25
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jasoncohenLasseL, and remember, backports isn't enabled by default. You have to enable it yourself10:25
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LasseLjasoncohen, but not a proper version i java i bet10:25
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jasoncohenLasseL, breezy will include blackdown java 1.4 in multiverse10:26
jasoncohenwhich will work fine10:26
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jasoncohenand you can always build java from java-package or use backports for java. there are many options10:26
crimsunFrafra, apt-cache depends build-essential10:26
chris_unfalterinHow should i best partition my external hard drive with gparted?10:26
jasoncoheni installed java from backports and then disabled it10:26
chris_unfalterinMy goal is to dual-boot XP and Ubuntu.10:26
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jasoncohenif you think this is bad look at fedora. Ubuntu has over 16,000 packages- nearly everything you might want. There's very little need for backports10:27
adriyel__chris_unfalterin, have you succeeded in your goal?10:27
LasseLjasoncohen, i am a java developer so i just hate to think about people running with old and slow versions with possible incompatabilities :)10:27
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chris_unfalterinwhich is that?10:27
adriyel__jasoncohen, not quite caught up with portage though <--- gentoo user10:28
adriyel__I still like Ubuntu's repository though :)10:28
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LasseLadriyel__, i will catch up with gentoo before you are done compiling :p10:28
zer0`is this the line for installing java    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:28
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adriyel__LasseL, dual core, already done compiling10:28
chris_unfalterinwhich goal, adriyel?10:28
spolachris_unfalterin, i'd take one part for xp, one for /home, one swap (twice yr ram) and a 20G for installing ubuntu on10:28
rrm3linux-header-2.5.10-5-386 contains a 'scripts' link that does not work!  I need that directory to compile madwifi.  Anyone been through this already?10:29
adriyel__LasseL, in all seriousness, if you have a 64bit AMD, the compile/installation times are NOT that bad10:29
spolahome on a diffrent partition WILL save your ass sooner or later10:29
adriyel__chris_unfalterin, the goal of dual booting10:29
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chris_unfalterinwhat is /home?10:29
spolait's like my documents, each user has a subdirectory in it10:29
adriyel__your home directory storing the files/documents of each user10:29
adriyel__such as, /home/adriyel10:29
chris_unfalterinok, will ubuntu automaticall mount /home?10:29
adriyel__the home directory for root is /root10:29
spolait's the only place where files that don't belong to root should reside10:29
adriyel__chris_unfalterin, don't worry about it, everything is taken care of by Ubuntu if you don't screw with it10:30
LasseLadriyel__, I have been running gentoo for the last 2.5 years and I know the drill. I am sick of it10:30
adriyel__LasseL, This is why my main distro's are Slack + slapt-get and Ubuntu10:30
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chris_unfalterinoh....i have been using /home10:30
adriyel__you DO know that portage provides precompiled binaries over the net right?10:30
spolachris_unfalterin, you can edit /etc/fstab when you're done and then it to auto mount10:31
chris_unfalterinon this laptop, but i d idn't kmnow it was its own directory10:31
chris_unfalterin*partition10:31
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LasseLadriyel__, booting into gentoo was like going to work (and a boring version of that), booting into ubuntu made me scrap windows within a week :)10:31
zer0`is this the line for installing java    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted10:31
chris_unfalterinok, so is this correct:10:31
chris_unfalterinXP - ntfs.  Ubuntu - ext3.  Swap (2x RAM) - linux-swap.10:32
adriyel__LasseL, after the installation Gentoo's not that bad, particularly if you have portage use precompiled binaries. The inherent problem here is that I am a speed-nut. So, when Yoper's new version comes out I will likely check that out10:32
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adriyel__I use ubuntu 6410:32
adriyel__I use Slack10.1 and slamd64, depending on my mood10:32
durtslack is quite impressive10:33
adriyel__chris_unfalterin, I use reiserfs for my format, I find ext3 to be bleh.10:33
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adriyel__durt, slack was my first love.10:33
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hondjeMine was a girl10:33
chris_unfalterinwhat's the dif?\10:33
adriyel__slackware/gentoo combined taught me a LOT about Linux10:33
LasseLadriyel__, i never had gentoo work half as well as the default ubuntu install even though i spent countless hours tweaking it10:33
spolachris_unfalterin, if you leave space open on your hd you can always add a seperate /home later10:33
spolai think the nicest thing about reiserfs is that you can resize it10:34
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adriyel__LasseL, I don't deny that. But I wish Slackware would come out with an official tweaked 64-bit version, the reason I use slamd6410:34
spolaLasseL, same here, same here10:34
chris_unfalterinwhy is reiserfs preferable to ext3?  What is the difference?10:34
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adriyel__reiserfs in my experience is more adaptable, stable, and faster10:34
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chris_unfalterinok...10:34
adriyel__there is no loss to using reiserfs, to my knowledge10:34
spolaext3 is also rock stable10:34
Deter[ZZzzZZz] nn guys, enjoy your weekends :D10:34
GoClickSeveas, would I be able to get a password from you so that I could download java?10:35
adriyel__I guess some people are just stuck on ext310:35
chris_unfalterin???10:35
LasseLchris_unfalterin, you can read and write ext3 from windows10:35
adriyel__wtf? @ lassel10:35
adriyel__you can?10:35
chris_unfalterinext3/reiserfs ???10:35
chris_unfalterinreally?10:35
LasseLchris_unfalterin, well I read that anyways .. let me google it10:35
chris_unfalterinthat's sweet, esp. since i'm dual-booting10:35
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adriyel__I'd suggest ReiserFS, personally. (don't use Reiser4, its still being dev'ed heavily)10:35
Malin`can anyone do "apt-cache search teamspeak" and tell me if there's a result?10:35
spolai dunno about writing, but i have a proggie to read from ext2/310:35
nerdy2adriyel__: ext3 is based on ext2, which is readable/writable from windows10:35
rox__i need help guys, none of my xvids will play10:35
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adriyel__LasseL why in the Lord's name would Windows support a Linux partition format?10:36
naliothadriyel__: search ext2fs at sourceforge.net10:36
rox__it keeps sayig the file is empty but i know its not10:36
adriyel__nerdy2, ahhh. secondary piece of software and @ nalioth10:36
LasseLadriyel__, windows has pluggable filesystems too10:36
adriyel__nerdy2, ext3 is the same as ext2, it just has journaling10:36
rox__anyone, i dont have internet for very long, please help10:36
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nerdy2adriyel__: nothing can be done with windows alone, everything's secondary10:36
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adriyel__nerdy2, I know this. thank you10:36
adriyel__nerdy2, thats why I use Linux, except for games10:37
chris_unfalterinso.... ext3 can be read from xp10:37
adriyel__Linux meowbox 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic #1 Tue Apr 5 12:21:57 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux10:37
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nerdy2adriyel__: tried battle for wesnoth? :)10:37
chris_unfalterinwo i should use it for dualboot10:37
adriyel__chris_unfalterin, only if you install 3rd party software, and I don't know how stable that is10:37
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nerv99hello10:37
chris_unfalterin*so10:37
adriyel__nerdy2, I play games that require skill, sorry.10:37
rox__my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty10:37
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spolai just decided to stop playiing games, except for Enemy territory10:37
janne__hi...!10:37
rox__i've used them before10:37
rox__my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty10:37
adriyel__<--- semi-pro/competitive gamer, I don't accept 40-50% performance from Linux10:37
spolaET > *10:37
rox__i've watched the xvid before on the same player10:38
rox__and now there's nothing10:38
adriyel__yes, I have doom3 installed, no it doesn't run how it should on my 6800GT10:38
LasseLnerdy2, i just tried BfW but i got my ass kicked at the FIRST map10:38
LasseLchris_unfalterin, http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html10:38
janne__I got some basic problem: How i uninstall/remove .run -files? (game etc...)10:38
GoClickI still can't get SAMBA to authenticate properly, I just did a fresh install of it from Synaptic and I tried to connect to it and it won't accept my username and password (which is the same on Windows and on Ubuntu)10:38
rox__need help, anyone, my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty... i wont have internet very long10:38
adriyel__chris_unfalterin, do you have ANY reason to be writing to your Linux partition from windows? it requires 3rd party software, which may or may not have bugs10:38
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rox__i need help if anyone can offer it10:38
rox__quickly before my cable loses connection again10:39
LasseLadriyel__, FUD10:39
adriyel__rox__, don't repeat yourself, somehow I have the feeling the PEBKAC10:39
chris_unfalterinIt would be nice to access Linux documents/files from XP and vice-versa10:39
spolai once talked to this guy he always EOF'd if someone said 'fuck'10:39
adriyel__in which case use Ext3 @ chris_unfalterin10:39
spolahe had some kind of cyber sitter or something it was hilarious10:39
black13can build a new kernel 2.6 cause the creation of an initial ram disk initrd.img as a by product?10:40
adriyel__you'll still be able to access Windows from linux, if you use reiser, you just won't be able to do the reverse10:40
jayparadisechris_unfalterin, try crossover office10:40
naliothadriyel__: 3d party is not the point. ext2fs runs on windows! that should say it all10:40
chris_unfalterinbut that reqs 3rd-p software...10:40
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knowledge_how can I rebuild dependancies?10:40
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janne__How can uninstall .run file programs?10:40
jayparadiseit supports certain propietary apps10:40
mjrjanne__, basically by hand10:40
rox__adriyel__, if you're going to be helpful, please dont respond to me10:40
adriyel__nalioth, I have no purpose for gimping the speed of my Linux partiton just so windows can read it. Repeat: I only use Windows for games, all I have installed is Win32/ overclocking software, games, and DX9.0c10:40
rox__if you're not*10:40
chris_unfalterinok, so i can go back and forth between XP and Ubuntu, w/o any mods...?10:41
janne__oh...folder and some?10:41
adriyel__rox__, watch the mouth, I was asking you not to repeat yourself, if noone has answered, try #ubuntu-devel, even though they'll prolly redirect you to here10:41
adriyel__additionally, setting an ultimatum/deadline OMG CABLE GOING OUT, won't make anyone respond faster10:41
adriyel__some people have already commented on your problem10:41
cyphaseanyone know of a web based ssh system that i can install on my server?10:41
rox__watch my mouth how? did i curse? i just asked you not to talk to me if you can't be helpful, im putting you on ignore i dont need your attitude, thanks!10:42
adriyel__but you were too busy pecking away saying, XVID BROKEN CABLE GOING AWAY CRY CRY10:42
adriyel__to notice10:42
seliniumcyphase: sshd?10:42
adriyel__watch your mouth as in sass.10:42
adriyel__not cursing.10:42
spolacyphase, web based ssh ??? what excactly do you want cause this makes little sense to me10:42
LasseLrox__, try some other players10:42
rox__you should do the same10:42
adriyel__right, anyways.10:42
LasseLrox__, totem, mplayer, gxine10:42
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rox__thanks lassel, i tried mplayer totem xine10:42
rox__vlce10:42
adriyel__install gstreamer plugins10:42
rox__vlc10:42
adriyel__first.10:42
rox__already did sdriyel10:42
rox__first thing i did10:42
adriyel__then the problem is not the player10:42
cyphasespola, a web based client i can install on a server that will let me log onto ssh10:42
rox__when i first loaded ubuntu10:42
naliothadriyel__: my point was: do you want a windows driven file system tool mucking about on your linux partition? (i dont)10:43
rox__but i've seen these episodes before but they wont open anymore10:43
adriyel__how were these xvids downloaded?10:43
rox__torrent10:43
adriyel__nalioth, that was exactly my point that I was trying to make10:43
depravenow now kids, i'll send you to bed without any dessert.10:43
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adriyel__nalioth, nerdy2 tried to say that that point was invalid, however10:43
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adriyel__rox__, you dumbass, the files ARE empty10:43
twibblerget error message can't connect to aRts soundserver anybody help for I thought I had installed the required package ..10:43
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rox__they are not empty10:43
adriyel__bit torrent preallocates the space, making the file look full, when it might actually not have been downloaded10:43
adriyel__try again. check the binary10:44
rox__i've watched the episodes before10:44
spolacyphase, i think you'll want to google for a java applet10:44
adriyel__ok, and what if the connection failed and all it did was preallocate the space?10:44
depraveare you jonesing for some anime bukkake!?10:44
adriyel__then you have an empty file taking up space10:44
adriyel__gg.10:44
rox__i've seen the episodes before10:44
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depraverox__: that particular ep?10:44
adriyel__you've already said that rox__10:44
rox__yes10:44
depravethe same file?10:44
rox__yes deprave10:44
rox__the exact same one10:44
adriyel__and under what conditions did it function?10:44
jayparadisewins ps3 supposed to come out?10:44
depraveTHEN IT'S A RERUN10:44
rox__i've tried about five of them10:45
adriyel__repeat/emulate/imitate those functions10:45
chris_unfalterinadriyel__: will it matter?  (using xp to read linuxfs)10:45
LasseLrox__, try this (again) http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs10:45
depraverox__: what does it do?10:45
cyphasespola, i was looking for something besides a java applet..10:45
cyphasean AJAX client maybe..10:45
rox__let me go there lassel10:45
adriyel__chris_unfalterin, if you want the feature, install the package from sourceforge and use ext3. as nalioth said, I don't want to risk some windows program mucking up my fucking partition10:45
rox__when i open vlc in terminal10:45
chris_unfalterinok.10:45
rox__it tells me that the file is empty10:45
rox__it tells me that twice then tells me it cannot access the directory10:46
chris_unfalterinnow what about primary/extended?  which of my part'ns should be which?10:46
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spolacyphase, hmm that would be pretty cool but i haven't heard of any of those ... i'd have a hard time believing some kid hasn't hacked it together on ruby on rails tho10:46
depravetry a different application10:46
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adriyel__the fact of the matter, is that most of the programs/programmers written on sourceforge are amateurs and youngsters, not necessarily a bad thing in most cases, and not necessarily true either (gaim is on sourceforge, very well dev'ed), however, something as critical as my data isn't about to be managed by A. Windows, B. a 3rd party windows app, C. an app made by someone who didn't make windows10:46
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cyphasespola, i would do it, but i don't have the time :(10:47
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spolai'll do it if you pay me :p10:47
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cyphasealthough it isn't all bad, seeing as i don't have time because of a cool project :)10:47
rox__deprave, i've tried vlc, mplayer, xine and totem10:47
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n1xt3r_adriyel__: the best software in life is free :)10:48
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depravepermissions ok etc? did you download it from torrent?10:48
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rox__yep downloaded from torrent10:48
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rox__after it was done10:48
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chris_unfalterinnow what about primary/extended?  which of my partitions should be which?10:48
rox__i double-checked episodes 3-5-6 to be sure they worked10:48
rox__and they did10:48
rox__and now, not working...10:48
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Frafrawhat i must do for install ati proprietary driver?10:48
crimsunFrafra, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:49
Frafrathx10:49
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_ubuntu504hi10:50
naliothchris_unfalterin: most intel boxen can only see 4 primary partitions10:50
_ubuntu504I have some questions10:50
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ProwerHmm...something weird is going on, I'm getting messages from half of those people dropping in and out10:50
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_ubuntu504has anyone used ubuntu with the NF7-s rv 2 motherboard?10:50
spolahmm, im under attack???10:50
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mustafuheh, same here10:51
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chris_unfalterinnalioth: ok, i just need 3 partns. (XP,swap,ubuntu)10:51
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naliothchris_unfalterin: so i'd suggest 1 primary, and one logical (with as many as 16 partitions inside it)10:51
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spolaFUCKERS ARE ATTACKING #UBUNTU THATS MAKIN IT PERSONAL10:51
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rebugsilliness10:51
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apokryphosThere were major Freenode innovations today with a primary server10:51
mustafuheh, this isn't EFNet, calm down10:51
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apokryphosI doubt it's anything malicious10:51
_ubuntu504why are people pming me?10:51
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naliothSeveas: onjoins10:51
chris_unfalterinWhat is happening?10:51
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chris_unfalterinWhat is happening?10:52
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_ubuntu504I want to shwitch to ubuntu sooo bad...10:52
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naliothchris_unfalterin: some script kiddie is playing10:52
_ubuntu504so I want to knkow if anyone has had any luck with this hardware10:52
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Frafrahttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/xorg-driver-fglrx <= i can't download it. 404 error10:52
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chris_unfalterindoing what? (new to irc)10:52
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TTiluslooks like everybody else is getting empty private messages from random people10:52
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TTilus..too10:52
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Virtuallwhat a stupidity10:52
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chris_unfalterinttilus: yah that is happening to me10:53
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Virtuallclonebots ;( hate the idiots that do that10:53
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TTilusVirtuall: mm...  metoo10:53
_ubuntu504ubuntu NF7-srv2 MB, SATA HD, ATI Radeon, AMD ATH XP 280010:53
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_ubuntu504any bad in there for ubuntu?10:53
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chris_unfalterinOK this stinks majorly.10:53
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HoxzerUbuntu: I have heard it might be hard to find drivers for ati10:54
_ubuntu504really?10:54
_ubuntu504ubuntu comes with them10:54
TTilusHoxzer: how come?10:54
HoxzerI don't know so well10:54
HoxzerI just heard10:54
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TTilusHoxzer: it wasn't to me10:54
_ubuntu504other than that?10:54
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NoUse!ati10:54
ubotuit has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:54
_ubuntu504do I need a specian kernel for a AMD processor?10:54
jayparadiseanyuone getting a lot of random nicks messaging empty messages?10:54
Virtuall...hey motherf*r, if you hear me, f*k you!10:54
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Virtualljayparadise, everybody10:54
paulproteusjayparadise: Yes.10:54
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TTilusjohns^: everybody10:55
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paulproteusjayparadise: They seem to all have been disconnected from FreeNode, those nicks.10:55
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TTilusjohns^: uups, sorry, malicious tab-completion10:55
paulproteusApparently not all of them.10:55
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_ubuntu504is there a special kernel for AMD ATHLON XP 2800+?10:55
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REBELinBLUEhey10:55
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spolait's probably microsoft !! :p10:56
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theplateaui think one just tried to trick me into giving my nickserv password10:56
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nalioth_ubuntu504: k7 or k8  i believe10:56
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REBELinBLUEoya?10:56
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Virtuallsomeone must die here10:56
_ubuntu504nalioth... I have had 10 cd's mailed to me10:56
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_ubuntu504nalioth I think I got the i386 kernel10:57
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nalioth_ubuntu504: then use the x86 disc for install and then worry about specific kernels10:57
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faddathmmmm10:57
nalioth!help10:57
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nalioth!ops10:57
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!10:57
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_ubuntu504naloith I am dialup... can't download and recompile a new kernal10:57
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lenny_hello.  I have a question:  I am trying to add the jdk/bin directory I created to my path.  I added it to the path at the top of the /etc/profile file, but for some reason it is not appearing in my user path.  Can someone tell me what I have to do?10:57
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REBELinBLUEanyone know why today when I plug in my iPod I can no longer use it? gtkpod just freezes, using both the USB and firewire connection on both my desktop and laptop10:57
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nalioth_ubuntu504: the i386 will work well enough10:58
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faddatanyone know of Wifi adapters (USB 802.11g, especially) that will work out-of-the-box with Ubuntu?10:58
_ubuntu504nalioth I didn't see a special version for AMD ATHLON10:58
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apokryphos_ubuntu504: there isn't one10:58
x[x] .10:58
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apokryphos_ubuntu504: but there is AMD-specific10:58
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nalioth_ubuntu504: there are kernels for most every processor, the i386 will get you running nicely10:59
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ProwerIt'd be nice if you could actually speak in #freenode to tell the ops about it :>10:59
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lenny_why the hell are all these tabs appearing when I log in?10:59
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Prowerlenny_: The channel is being flooded by clonebots10:59
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Virtuallmay I say it in russian?  * ,  ,  !10:59
_ubuntu504this is running soo good on my PC10:59
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apokryphosit is annoying, they should be banned at least temporarily (Freenode staff contacted etc)10:59
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apokryphos!ops10:59
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!10:59
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seamushello10:59
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_ubuntu504I am in the ubuntu live cd right now10:59
Prowerapokryphos: I tried to mention it in #freenode but it wouldn't go through10:59
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apokryphosPrower: yes, you need to have voice especially11:00
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lenny_f'n clone bot bastards11:00
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naliothclonebots are everywhere on freenode, it's not just us in here11:00
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apokryphosAnother case of where the ops aren't around :(11:00
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Virtuallthey're all from different IPs ;( must be open proxies11:00
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Prowerapokryphos: Ahh...must be another convenient #freenode policy to help users out, like the rest they've come up with lately ;>11:00
jepeltwjust parted and they still continue11:00
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apokryphosheh11:00
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TTilus_ubuntu504: *-k6, *-k7 and *-k8 -packages are those amdies11:00
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funkyHatguys, do /ignore *!*@* priv11:00
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faddatSo, yeah, anyone have reccomendations on a wifi product that will work gloriously with Ubuntu11:01
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sjguhg11:01
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sjgfreaking bots11:01
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sjgdie11:01
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selinium_HI all, i appear to be very popular, I am having lots of peolple msg me. Is this some kind off IRC spam11:01
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Prowerselinium_: Ignore all private messages for now, it's a bot flood11:01
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inva|idselinium_: it is bot spam11:01
TTilusselinium_: y11:01
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_ubuntu504TTtilus are they big?11:02
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Prowerselenium_: /ignore *!*@* priv worked for me, thanks for whoever suggested it :>11:02
Frafraif i want a optimized kernel, i must install linux-image-2.6.10-5-[...]  and restricted-modules?11:02
selinium_Cheers guys.11:02
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TTilus_ubuntu504: depends, talking about kernels or?11:02
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goldfishjesus.11:02
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Juhazand /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS will help for the channel flood11:02
selinium_funkyhat cheers for the pointer. How do I switch it back on later?11:02
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goldfishindeed.11:02
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Juhazfor irssi that is, xchat et all will have other options11:02
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TTilus_ubuntu504: if i recall correct they are downloadable over dialup11:02
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funkyHatselinim /unignore and then the same11:02
afonitthanks funkyhat11:02
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goldfishgentoo and ubuntu being attack simultaneously11:03
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qt2err, /mode +E yournick will get rid of all thoase pm's. ;)11:03
goldfish*attacked11:03
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_ubuntu504TTilus it automatically used a special kernal for my motherboard11:03
GoClickWhy do random nicks keep sending me black querys?11:03
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ProwerGoClick: Bot flood11:03
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nalioththe clonebots are all ove freenode11:03
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_ubuntu504TTilus a nvidia kernal11:03
selinium_funkyhat: cheers, what tw*t thinks that it takes some kind of genious to do that?11:03
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apokryphos:/11:03
GoClickah11:03
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ProwerReally ineffective bot flood at that :>11:03
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TTilus_ubuntu504: umm... nvidia kernel?  can't tell11:04
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selinium_GoClick:   /ignore *!*@* priv11:04
Frafrause /mode +E11:04
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lenny_so, in order to add a path to all users who log into this machine.. what file do I edit?11:04
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Frafrabah11:04
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lenny_I'm trying to add /usr/java/jdk/bin11:04
TTilus_ubuntu504: i would guess that readily build kernels come with pretty much all chipsets supported11:04
VirtuallIs that all you can, sucker?! Show yourself!...11:04
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TTilus_ubuntu504: how come?11:04
theplateauhow ami going to unigornore all priv messages later on?11:04
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rox__LasseL?11:04
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naliothattentions folks: you can /mode <yournick> +E and get rid of most of the spam11:05
x[x] hmm11:05
theplateauas in reversaing /ignore *!*@*11:05
Virtuallwhat does +E do?11:05
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nalioth+E keeps unidentified nicks from sending you msgs11:05
_ubuntu504TTilus I am useing a NF7-s Rv2 motherboard11:05
x[x] it SHOULD be +R like every other damned Network11:05
theplateauignores registered nicks11:05
theplateauunre4gisterd*11:05
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_ubuntu504TTilus it uses a nvidia chipset... not for graphics though11:05
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qt2'/mode +E yournick' is much more effective and doesnt block legitmate pm's...11:06
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theplateauhow do i undo /ignore !*@*11:06
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TTilus_ubuntu504: and  you have problems?11:07
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lenny_so, in order to add a path to all users who log into this machine.. what file do I edit?11:07
lenny_I'm trying to add /usr/java/jdk/bin11:08
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bimberilenny_: /etc/profile11:08
nicholaspauli have a really bare xfce setup... and want to install the network settings panel so i can enter WEP key. Anyone know what that panel is called?11:08
lenny_and: If I change /etc/profile (the 2 path statements at the top) and they don't appear when I next login, what is the problem?11:08
inva|idnicholaspaul:  xcfe4-panel11:08
naliothnicholaspaul: at a terminal, type "apt-cache search network"11:09
nicholaspaul:) fanks inva|id "D11:09
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bimberilenny_: (although I've just joined and have no background to your issue :) )11:09
mike_hey peoples11:09
mike_-s11:09
nicholaspaulfanks nalioth.11:09
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lenny_:) This is the only background11:09
mike_does anyone here ever use hercules11:09
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lenny_Someone told me before to edit /etc/profile, but it doesn't seem to work... I'm sure I'm doing something wrong11:10
bimberilenny_: k :)11:10
mike_i'm getting an old ibm z series, and i'd like to experiment with the emulator before i get it so i don't fubar the machine11:10
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bimberilenny_: hmm ok11:11
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zer0`lenny_ you can use the 'last' command, i think11:11
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amonkeyhow do i mount a dvd iso? is it the same as a cd iso(iso9660)? it mounts wiht iso9660 but totem does't recognize it as a dvd11:11
TTilusmike_: z series?  are we talking about that huge noisy electrical air heater  :)11:11
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bimberilenny_: i recall that you need to edit ~/.gnomerc (or something like that) for setting the environment for individual users.  Unfortunately i don't know what the global equivalent is11:13
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lenny_for some reason my PATH = /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games11:14
lenny_ok11:14
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lenny_ok11:14
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lenny_nevermind :).  I thought there were duplicates in that path statement11:14
funkyHathow do i identify myself as an oper (different server, it's a standard ircd afaik)?11:14
nicholaspaulinva|id - xfce4-panel doesnt seem to exist11:15
=== bimberi really should try to work this path thing out sometime :)
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lenny_ok:  What is the last rc directory run after login?11:15
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mike_TTilus, yeah noisy 64bit mainframe sweetness11:15
mike_hahah11:15
Drewfusi think i need help mounting a hard drive11:15
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Drewfusi just got a new hard drive but i dont see it anywhere11:16
lexmarkhow do I install debian packages...  I have a package with extension *.deb11:16
Drewfusit is in the device list though11:16
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funkyHatDrewfus, you need to add it in /etc/fstab11:16
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Drewfusis fstab a program?11:17
shamusHow can I remove all of the sun java I have installed? I'm tryinh to install azureus and getting errors, someone said to remove all traces of the sun java and install it via synaptic11:17
funkyHatno, it's a text file11:17
Drewfusok ill try it11:17
funkyHatsudo gedit /etc/fstab11:17
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user1is anyone running Oracle on Ubuntu?11:18
Drewfusthanks i think i can figure it out from here11:18
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Drewfusif not ill ask some more11:18
Mr_Rockhi11:18
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daakuanyone using the appletouch driver on a powerbook? cant seem to get it to work right!11:18
lexmarkcan anyone tell me how to install debian packages on ubuntu?11:18
Mr_Rocksomebody can tell me how to configure my adsl?11:18
shamuslexmark, dpkg -i filename.deb11:19
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mike_Mr_Rock, is it pppoe?11:19
mike_if so pppoeconfig11:19
Mr_Rocki think11:19
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lexmarkthanks shamus11:19
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shamusno problem11:19
mike_it will search for the adsl connection from your ethernet, and ask for username/password stuff11:19
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naliothdaaku: what is the appletouch thing?11:20
shamuswhat can I use on ubuntu to make a folder a .torrent file?11:20
user1no one is using Oracle?11:20
naliothshamus: any torrent client11:20
Drewfuson the fstab do i just need to put the device address or do i need to add anything else11:20
flodinea guys is there a way to make your wallpaper scale with feh11:20
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naliothflodine: the feh homepage didnt have that info?11:21
shamusnalioth, apparently not the one I'm using11:21
shamusqtorrent11:21
ekimusflodine: what's feh?11:21
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user1I'm going to try installing Oracle on Suse and then transplanting it to Ubuntu. Does anyone know why this might not work?11:21
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naliothshamus: try "createtorrent"11:21
flodinesomething to set wallpapers11:21
lenny_why isn't smeg in the repos?11:21
naliothekimus: an imlib based image viewer11:21
shamusnalioth, nevermind I figured it out11:21
naliothlenny_: it will be in breezy11:22
shamusjust right click > create archive, and use a .torrent extension11:22
Drewfusfunkyhat: what all do i need to change on fstab, just the device addres?11:22
lenny_lame11:22
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funkyHatDrewfus, you need to add a new line for each partition on your new drive11:23
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Drewfusi havent formatted it yet11:23
naliothDrewfus: ask uncle google "sample fstab"11:23
shamusactually, no i didn't. it says archive type not supported.11:23
funkyHatif you haven't formatted the drive yet, you need to do so with a tool like gparted11:23
shamusi figured since it changed the icon to a torrent icon it worked :?11:23
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naliothshamus: use regular bittorrent (i've nver used qtorrent)11:23
funkyHator kparted if you prefer kde ;)11:23
naliothshamus: or bittornado11:24
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medamaybecould someone please tell me why ALL music players I install crash everytime I try to play a file??? :)11:24
mike_...11:24
Jowihi all11:24
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mike_wtf is going on. i keep getting private (empty) messages from people11:24
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medamaybemike_, same here, I don't know where they are coming from11:24
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flodinewho was i talking to last night about the kernel update11:24
flodineare you here11:25
Jowimike_: same here. and i just got in11:25
nalioth_wrknmike_: type "/mode <yournick> +E" and it will filter them all out (this mode filters msgs from non identified users)11:25
mike_i forgot how to disallow private messages anyway11:25
Drewfusmike_: i keep getting empty pms too11:25
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daakunalioth: the trackpad works, but its not being recognized as a synaptics device11:25
mike_and there we go11:25
mike_hah11:25
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daakunalioth: and even to get it to work, i have to load X, rmmod the module, and modprobe it again11:25
eamonnturn off "auto open dialog windows" under the IRC menu to stop the empty dialogs.11:25
ekimusmike_: me too, seems like some script kiddie ist testing his/her brandnew "I h4x0r3d the n3t t00lk1t"11:26
flodine'is there anyone running kernel 2.6.12 on 5.0411:26
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Jowinalioth_wrkn: should be a whole lot of non-reg users in here though :-)11:26
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shamusnalioth_wrkn, I installed bittorrent via synaptic, but hwo do i run it?11:26
mike_god installing linux on an ibm server doesnt seem straight forward11:26
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flodinewhy dont ubuntu update my kernel like fedora411:26
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Jowishamus: it will run automaticly if you click a torrent link in firefox11:27
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ekimusflodine: why should it? the generic kernel for ubuntu is quite ok11:27
Jowishamus: you will get an option to either save the torrent or run it with gnome-btsomething11:27
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InitMasswhat the hell. why are so many people flooding me?11:28
flodinetrue11:28
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Drewfusim totally lost formatting this, im new to linux so im still used to the point and click world of win11:28
JowiInitMass: same here. eamonn had a good idea though. turn off "auto open dialog window" in the IRC menu11:29
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funkyHatDrewfus, follow the wiki tutorial on adding extra repositories to synaptic,11:29
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othernoobhow do i restart KDE?11:29
funkyHat!repositories11:29
ubotufrom memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96911:29
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Drewfusif its a secondary hard drive just for extra storage can i get away with one massive partition11:29
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funkyHatDrewfus, yes11:29
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Drewfusthanks ill look that wiki up11:29
lexmarkI get this error when attempting to install debian package in the root terminal11:29
lexmarkdpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb (--install):11:29
lexmark cannot access archive: No such file or directory11:29
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funkyHatDrewfus, then use synaptic to install gparted11:29
Drewfusi did im in it now11:30
funkyHatoh cool (Y)11:30
daakuJowi:  thats useful!11:30
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InitMassJowi, under which menu?11:30
Drewfusi labeled the drive but im not sure how to partition it11:30
funkyHat*sorry msn thumbs up smiley ;)11:30
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streetsbiri yardim etsin..11:30
Kurzhello...11:30
JowiInitMass: X-Chat IRC menu. top one11:30
ak007can anyone tell me that how do i install a boot screen for ubuntu?11:30
Drewfuswhat file system11:30
funkyHatext311:30
Jowidaaku: i thought so too :-)11:30
InitMassJowi, i found it. thank you11:30
munirHello all.11:30
lexmarkcan anyone help with that problem?11:31
Kurzhow can i give more permissions to users in ubuntu?11:31
shamusJowi, thanks, but how do I make a .torrent file with it?11:31
gentoo_junkiedepends hehe11:31
Drewfusfunkyhat do i need any freespace before or after?11:31
lexmarknot sure what I am doing wrong.. I am following instructions closely11:31
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JowiKurz: you can add them to the /etc/sudoers file if you want to make them admin11:31
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daakuDrewfus:  not unless you plan to do something with it11:31
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ak007and how do i access windows files from ubuntu?11:31
tck_hi11:31
tck_getting  OpenSSL crypto library missing error11:31
nicholaspauldoes anyone know what the network manager in XFCE is called?11:31
Drewfuswhat do you mean do something with it11:31
tck_how do i fix it ?11:31
ompaul!ntfs11:31
munirI am new to Linux. Is ubuntu fine to me?11:32
Jowilexmark: be sure you are in the same directory and that you type in the filename correctly. dpkg -i filename.deb11:32
streetsI can't see the some part of my hdd.. how can I see it.. ( file system is ntfs )11:32
whyameyeI am trying to install the java runtime environment in Firefox as instructed on the ubuntu guide. When I get to sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 it tells me this package doesn't exist. I have already added the extra repositories.11:32
nicholaspaulyes munir - ubuntu is the easiest distro, and the best :)11:32
ompaul!tell ak007 about ntfs11:32
daakuDrewfus: if its a second drive where you're only gonna store data, then you dont need freespace before or after11:32
CookedGryphonHi, I'm buying a laptop from ebay, and there's one here that i like the look of, but it says that it is designed for windows XP and there are no drivers for other operating systems. Is this true, or jsut bullshit. It's a Versa C140, specifications : http://help.nec-computers.com/uk/pib.asp?platform=platform_Mangusta&layout=190211:32
KurzJovi: but, if i do that, can have any problemam with the sistem? or this normal...11:32
Drewfusdaaku thanks11:32
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_frank_whyameye: It's a problem with the reposiroty... not your fault11:32
CookedGryphoncos i want to install ubuntu on it but if i can't find drivers its useless11:32
munirThanks <nicholaspaul>. Can you compare it with SuSE?11:33
lexmarkjowi, I open the root terminal and I type "Dir".. it tells me I am in desktop.. thats when I start typing in that command11:33
whyameye_frank_, so how can I install JRE?11:33
_frank_whyameye: : the backport problems are only temporary I think. you still can download manually at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ the hoary-extras packages11:33
_frank_whyameye: then use dpkg to install11:33
Drewfuscan anyone suggest a good music player for a library of 10,000+ songs11:33
daakuDrewfus: be careful with partitioning though, it has the potential to destroy data, make sure you've got backups11:33
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Drewfusits brand new drive11:33
whyameye_frank_, any disadvantage to this?11:33
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Jowilexmark: you must be in the same directory as your .deb file to make sure. the error tells me that dpkg can not find the file with that name....11:34
daakuDrewfus: amarok on kde, rhythmbox on gnome, there's many other depending on how you access it11:34
_frank_no the end result is the same. you're only avoiding the problem in the repository this way11:34
shamusHow can I make a .torrent file with bittorrent?11:34
ak007the channel is overloaded!!11:34
Drewfusdaaku do those have easy support for .mp3 .aac .wma11:35
Jowilexmark: use tab-completion to make sure. dpkg -i ymess<tab>11:35
lexmarkthe .deb file in the desktop Jowi....  there where the root terminal opens up to right?11:35
ak007can anyone one tell me how do i add a boot screen?????11:35
nicholaspaulmunir - no i dont know Suse... but from what i've heard, Ubuntu is easier to use. You can custom install it from a slim, fast 500Mb distro up to a couple gigs if you want.11:35
NoUseak007 google probably knows11:35
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cafuego_if you can explain what a 'boot screen' is, sure.11:35
nicholaspaulGoogle knows :)11:35
_frank_whyameye: you run i386 right?11:35
daakuDrewfus: never used .wma or .aac files, so not quite sure11:35
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eamonnak007, that's coming in the next version: breezy.11:35
lexmarkI'll try that11:35
whyameye_frank_, yes.11:35
Drewfusdaaku thanks11:35
nicholaspaulhey cafuego_, i think i fixed my php prob from last night!!11:36
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whyameye_frank_, I'm downloading now...11:36
cafuego_nicholaspaul: woo!11:36
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streetsCAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW CAN I MOUNT MY HDD PARTITION..11:36
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munirThanks nicholaspaul.11:36
Jowistreets: no need to shout man11:36
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streetssorry for the caps..11:36
nicholaspaulcafeugo_... yea... i should have pointed the browser to the folder and clicked the file. Also i had trouble with 'any' file labelled testphp.php for some reason. Renaming it was fine!!11:36
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cafuego_nicholaspaul: odd, very odd.11:37
NoUse!mount11:37
ubotumount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives11:37
Jowi!windowsdrives11:37
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically11:37
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Jowistreets: look up!11:37
nicholaspaulcafuego_ yea!! :) oh well! course, now i have a problem with xfce , i need a network manager.11:37
Drewfusdaaku i dont see rythmbox on synaptic where can i find it11:37
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_frank_cafuego_ expands the english vocabulary!11:37
nicholaspaullol11:37
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streetsthanks11:38
Jowinp11:38
nicholaspaul:-(11:38
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cafuego__frank_: For profit and entertainment!11:38
janne__HI All!11:38
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lenny_it's so much nicer running ubuntu i386 than amd6411:38
daakuDrewfus: its probably in universe or multiverse, cause apt-get shows it here11:38
ak007can i add a boot screen in 5.04 ?11:38
vader1102why are people private messaging me?11:38
cafuego_lenny_: omg lolz yo eye not leet tho!11:38
_frank_lenny_: I know... breezy might be better for amd64 hopefully11:38
NoUse!info rhythmbox11:38
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CookedGryphoni'm gettgin that, blank messages11:38
daakuDrewfus: actually, i've got a stock ubuntu install here, and its a part of it11:38
uboturhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-7ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4268 kB11:38
cafuego_ak007: Do you mean a bootsplash in grub? Yes.11:39
Drewfuswhere? daaku11:39
nicholaspaulyea, i'm getting blank PMs too.11:39
shamusvader1102, some kind of bot attack11:39
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Jowivader1102: some scriptkiddie is having a blast. disable "auto open dialog window" in the IRC menu in Xchat11:39
vader1102k11:39
Drewfusdaaku i dont see it under audio11:39
janne__How can i remove icons from menus, like GAMES --->Enemy Territory (icon is gone, but frames is still in there)?11:39
daakuDrewfus: Music Player in Sound & Audio11:39
nicholaspaulvader1102, use the force against those bots... heheh11:39
cafuego_vader1102: '/mode vader1102 +CE'11:39
whyameye_frank_, beautiful! Worked like a charm!11:39
lenny_I hope so.  I was going to install breezy until I saw some horrible posts about the repos being full of broken apps :)11:39
Drewfusdaaku i think i tried that and it said it didnt have the mp3 codec11:39
_frank_whyameye: great!11:39
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vader1102cafuego, do I type that in?11:39
cafuego_vader1102: if you're an identified user, that will automatically ignore messages from non-indetified users.11:40
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vader1102I should be11:40
vader1102I registered this nick11:40
janne__How can i remove icons from menus, like GAMES --->Enemy Territory (icon is gone, but frames is still in there)?11:40
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ompaulfor those getting annoyed by these muppets with their blank messages  /ignore *!*@*85.186.194.249 all and /ignore *!*@*241.221.97-84.rev.gaoland.net all11:40
cafuego_non-identified as well11:40
Jowijanne__: all menu items are in /usr/share/applications11:41
daakuDrewfus: ah. try 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad', should fix it11:41
Drewfusdaaku thanks again11:41
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nicholaspauli'm registered too, and i still get the messages11:41
cafuego_ompaul: Or download an run the delayed-join irssi script, what just doesn't display them (AT ALL) if they join, then leave before saying anything :-)11:41
ak007no when the boot screen when ubuntu is loading11:41
vader1102how do I set IRC to auto log in?11:41
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Jowijanne__: there should be a menu editor somewhere as well, but i can not recall its name.... hmmmm....11:42
CookedGryphonsmeg11:42
ompaulcafuego_ if I wanted to use irssi :-)11:42
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cafuego_ak007: Like an image or something whilst the kernel loads? That's being added to breezy.11:42
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JowiCookedGryphon: cheers :-)11:42
cafuego_ompaul: If you don't, you deserve all the spammage you get.11:42
Jowi!smeg11:42
ubotumethinks smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.11:42
ak007is there anyway i can add to my 5.04?11:42
janne__oh...but there isnt game icon at all....those must be somewhere else...(?)11:42
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cafuego_ak007: ... so with the correct kernel patches, hoary should be able to do it too.11:42
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cafuego_ak007: You're after 'bootsplash'11:42
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nicholaspaulHas anyone installed a net-watch app so you can watch people on your network?11:43
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nicholaspaulput it this way.. i have kids!!11:43
Jowijanne__: yes, the icons are in different places. one is /usr/share/icons, /usr/share/pixmaps etc11:43
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ak007and is there any way i can replace my Gnome file browser?11:43
cafuego_nicholaspaul: that was your first mistake...11:43
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lenny_How do I get KDE as an option on the session list of the logon screen?11:44
nicholaspaulhaha cafuego_11:44
cafuego_ak007: I doubt it; you could install one in addition to nautilus, though.11:44
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Jowinicholaspaul: i installed tcpspy. it logs all internet traffic (including from which machine accessed which webpage)11:44
nicholaspaulthing is, cafuego_, they didnt come with an uninstall app;)11:44
ak007how?11:44
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_frank_lenny_: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?11:44
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funkyHatlenny_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:44
nicholaspaulhows it work, jowi?11:44
vader1102the best NET NANNY is you sitting there watching, other than that I have a PASSWORD invironment11:44
spolai know the easiest way to stop being attacked by these bots ...11:44
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cafuego_nicholaspaul: Didn't you know abortion is legal until they can do higher maths?11:44
nicholaspauli'm in canada, i think its when they can talk here.11:45
lenny_ouch 330 MG :(11:45
ak007cafuego_: do u know any except  nautilus?11:45
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lenny_er MB11:45
cafuego_ak007: nah11:45
cafuego_ak007: apt-cache search file manager11:45
janne__i see....now i know where icons are....but where games or other programs save their informations in menus?11:45
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cafuego_nicholaspaul: does that mean if Bush went to canada, he could be aborted? :-)11:45
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tck_hi11:45
nicholaspaulyou got it cafuego_ :)11:46
tck_i get this error 'configure: error: OpenSSL crypto library missing' when compiling a program11:46
tck_any ideas ?11:46
ak007can i install KDE on ubuntu?11:46
lenny_holy crap11:46
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cafuego_whctacha compiling?11:46
nicholaspaulyes ak00711:46
funkyHatak007, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:46
nicholaspaulak007 - it works great, i use it all the time :D11:46
lenny_in canada you can kill your 1 year old and say - "I changed my mind"?11:46
lenny_heh11:46
ak007o11:46
nicholaspaullenny_ haah! but you cant use a gun;)11:46
cafuego_lenny_: Seems only fair, no?11:46
Jowinicholaspaul: its a daemon. runs silently. it logs all connections to /var/log/syslog i think. it will show you date/time - from ip - to ip - www/ftp/etc11:46
ak007im u know a newbie11:46
Drewfusis there an easier way to use another hard drive other than editing fstab11:47
RichardPhi people, whats ubuntu like for general server tasks?  Looking to install something on my recently ressurected SMP system11:47
nicholaspauloh we've all been there ak00711:47
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CookedGryphontck, do u have the ssl libraries?11:47
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cafuego_Speak for yourself, I was born 133+.11:47
vader1102RichardP, is it a USB hard drive?11:47
Jowinicholaspaul: it even say "www:216.239.59.99 (google)" or something like that. i haven't looked for awhile since i am the only user herer11:47
Jowi!info tcpspy11:47
lexmarkhow do I log in as root btw?11:47
ubotutcpspy: (Incoming and Outgoing TCP/IP connections logger), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.7d-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 36 kB, Installed size: 156 kB11:47
ompaulcafuego, maybe just maybe I start to use irssi :(11:48
ak007do i have to compile the source?11:48
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_frank_ak007: for what? Kde? no11:48
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RichardPvader1102: no, standard PATA, just looking for a webserver with php5, mysql, mailserver etc.  people keep mentioning ubuntu everywhere i go, so i thought id look into it :)11:48
eamonnlexmark, sudo -s, then type your password (*your* password)11:48
ak007so where can i download kde for my ubuntu?11:48
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RichardPand why do people keep messaging me but not say anything?11:49
lexmarkthanx eamonn11:49
_frank_ak007: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop you type that in a console11:49
vader1102oh, sorry for some reason I keep thinking everyone is on a laptop lol11:49
eamonnlexmark, welcome11:49
CookedGryphonRichardP, every1's gettin that11:49
nicholaspaulat the terminal ak007. i think someone said it was 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:49
RichardPCookedGryphon: only seems to be in this chan tho11:49
_frank_ak007: or you can also use synaptic to install that package11:49
CookedGryphoni meant every1 in this channel11:49
RichardPahh11:49
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Drewfuswhen i edit this fstab will it change for all users?11:50
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zeedoRichardP: /mode richardp +E11:50
JowiDrewfus: fstab is for the system, so yes.11:50
zeedoRichardP: that should stop it11:50
Drewfusthanks11:50
rob_pCookedGryphon:  Not me :-)  At least yet...11:50
RichardPwhats mode +E?11:50
zeedoRichardP: only registered users can message you11:50
RichardPahhh11:50
RichardPcheers11:51
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nicholaspaulTHIS has to be the best channel - there are always some super helpful chaps here :D hehe11:51
ak007 _frank_ : i get an error E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop11:51
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RichardPso, worth installing ubunu for mundane server type tasks or is it strictly a desktop distro?11:51
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nicholaspaulRichardP : depends what you mean by mundane. I have one machine running xfce and all it does is play mp3s.11:52
CookedGryphonak007, Y NOT USE SYNAPTIC?11:52
ttyS0i didn't get an answer on #kubuntu & #kde, so: "hello. i've a problem with russian encodings in KDE. i've installed KDE not a long time ago (i prefered Gnome). A Big part  of apps is working normally, but there are problems with internet application, for example Kopete. It doesn't show russian nicknames in ICQ. What should I do?"11:52
medamaybedoes anyone know how I can set my screen resolution without having to set it again everytime I boot?11:52
RichardPnicholaspaul: apache, php, mysql, email, ftp, etc11:52
NoUse!tell ak007 about synaptic11:52
ak007what is  SYNAPTIC?11:52
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tritiummedamaybe, have you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?11:52
JowiRichardP: you can choose at installation if you want server (stripped) or desktop version.11:52
medamaybeuhm...no11:52
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medamaybewhat's that?11:53
CookedGryphonak007, its a package manager11:53
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nicholaspaulak007 - its the way to download all apps. Go to Terminal and type sudo synaptic.11:53
RichardPJowi: that sounds exactly what i want :)11:53
tritiummedamaybe, it's a way to reconfigure the xserver settings, including resolution11:53
RichardPcheers, i guess i will start downloading11:53
medamaybetritium: is it noob-secure?11:53
ak007o so how do i run it?11:53
nicholaspaulrichardp: Have fun, and if you need a light/fast setup, use xfce not gnome11:53
p8ntballerahhh somebody help me i cant change my video resolution!! i tryed what it said on wiki but it didnt work11:53
nicholaspaulak007 - sudo synaptic.11:53
RichardPnicholaspaul: there wont be a gui at all11:53
CookedGryphonak007,  and you can just search for kde and it will come up with all the packages related to that, n mark kubuntu-desktop for installation n it will sort the dependencies11:53
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tritiummedamaybe, more or less11:53
nicholaspaulrichardp xfce is a gui yes11:53
JowiRichardP: i use it mostly for Desktop but am running ftp, samba, vnc, apache and ssh server on it as well11:54
medamaybek, I'll give it a try, thanks11:54
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daakui'm a little new to linux-ppc, can someone recommened a good bootable rescue cd for ppc, with support for the wierd powerbook keyboards hopefully?11:54
RichardPnicholaspaul: i know it is, i wont be running x11:54
nicholaspaulrichardp: but you dont 'need' a desktop, no.11:54
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nicholaspaulrichardp: oh ok, gotcha. :)11:54
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p8ntballeri cant change my screen res any help....?11:54
JowiRichardP: if you choose server install, not even X is installed11:54
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RichardPnicholaspaul: im not a n00b :) just never touched ubuntu before11:54
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RichardPcurrently got openbsd on there11:55
nicholaspaulrichardp: ok.. sorry. I got my Linux feet wet with Ubuntu and cant think of a reason to use anything else.11:55
lexmarkcan someone tell me what I am doing wrong... I logged in as root, and then typed in dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb to install yahoo messenger...  but I get this error root@94544:~# dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb11:55
lexmarkdpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb (--install):11:55
lexmark cannot access archive: No such file or directory11:55
lexmarkErrors were encountered while processing:11:55
lexmark ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb11:55
RichardPnicholaspaul: i use openbsd at work, and OSX at home11:55
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ak007it can find anything maybe i have to add repos?11:56
p8ntballercan somebody help me with my screen resolution i cant get it to work??11:56
nicholaspaulRichardP.. good man :) i use OSX for all work. Linux for everything else.11:56
Drewfuswhere should my moint point be for my extra hard drive?11:56
Jowilexmark: it can not find the file you are trying to install. make sure you're in the same directory as the file you downloaded.11:56
RichardPhoary or warty?11:56
tritiump8ntballer, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", abd make sure you select the resolutions you want11:56
pax!resolution11:56
uboturesolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:56
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RichardPahh hoary is the latest11:56
NoUse!tell ak007 about repositories11:56
lexmarkjowi, when I am in the root... I type in "dir" and tells me I am in desktop11:57
ak007i know but where can i find ubuntu repositories?11:57
Jowilexmark: yes, but is your file there?11:57
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nalioth_wrknlexmark: type in "pwd" instead of 'dir'11:57
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lexmarkyes, file is in the desktop... looking at it right now11:57
NoUseak007 ubotu told you, it says where to find official repositories11:57
p8ntballertritium, i tryed that nothing happened11:57
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lexmarksitting on the brown ubuntu screen11:57
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luserhello all, I'm a very new linux use, but am trying to give a go with ubuntu. I'm having a problem with loading programs or updates because of a repository problem11:57
tritiump8ntballer, nothing?11:57
nicholaspaulak007 - are you registered on the forum?11:57
p8ntballernope11:58
Drewfuswhere should i set the mount point for my extra hard drive11:58
ompaulRichardP, hoary, beta is breezy, due in Oct - DI makes it fun - and apt-get beats pkg_install most of the time :)11:58
misfit_toyany good recommendations for games for little kids? like from 3 and up?11:58
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p8ntballerits stuck at 640 by 48011:58
lenny_I hate that changing /etc/profile didn't work11:58
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daakuDrewfus: whereever you want, just make sure the directory exists. usually mount points are in /mnt11:58
RichardPompaul: cheers :)11:58
eamonnmisfit_toy, tuxracer.11:58
cafuego_ak007: Start SYnaptic,  choose Settings -> Repositories -> click Add11:58
p8ntballerthis is pissing me off11:58
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misfit_toyeamonn, too demanding on the video11:58
Drewfusthanks11:58
tritiump8ntballer, it should do _something_11:58
pfpp8ntballer: did you restart X too?11:58
luserI used the beginning user guide, but I keep getting this11:59
eamonnmisfit_toy, my kids like it. For a while (you get bored quickly).11:59
p8ntballerhow to i restart x?11:59
nicholaspaulp8ntballer - there should be info on the forum. I cant remember exactly how.11:59
p8ntballerim a noob11:59
misfit_toyeamonn, she's on a laptop with no acceleration11:59
Jowilexmark: if you're sure then you're not doing anything wrong. maybe a corrupt file.11:59
luserW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/u niverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-secu rity_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)11:59
cafuego_p8ntballer: logout, hit ctrl-alt-backspace11:59
naliothhowdy tritium cafuego_11:59
ompaulmisfit_toy, have a look at the debian educational stuff it is useful11:59
lexmarklet me try downloading it again11:59
tritiumhola, nalioth11:59
cafuego_nalioth: mornin'11:59
luserbut as far as I can tell that is the correct repository path11:59
eamonnmisfit_toy, ahh. There's lots of Web-based flash games for kids. Maybe try a few of those?12:00
nicholaspauli guess p8ntballer logged out...12:00
CookedGryphonI'm buying a laptop from ebay, and there's one here that i like the look of, but it says that it is designed for windows XP and there are no drivers for other operating systems. Is this true, or jsut bullshit. It's a Versa C140, specifications : http://help.nec-computers.com/uk/pib.asp?platform=platform_Mangusta&layout=190212:00

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