[12:00] <Blissex> maan84: usually it is OK.
[12:00] <Kromonos> so, i'm now using the right driver, but my keyboard is wrong :(  i can't use the shift key :(
[12:00] <maan84> Ok :)
[12:00] <Blissex> Kromonos: a bit more details would help those few of us that are not telepathic...
[12:01] <flickerfly|home> I seem to be having problems with my browser freezing. Firefox and Epiphany are both affected by this.
[12:01] <Fionn> hi. I just installed "network-manager". Unfortunately I seem to be unable to get the panel applet to appear anywhere. Does anyone here know how to get this going?
[12:01] <emile> what is epiphany?
[12:01] <Fionn> emile: a browser
[12:01] <funkyHat> flickerfly|home, is there anything particular that you do before just before the crash?
[12:01] <Blissex> emile: a derivative of Mozilla, specifically for GNOME.
[12:01] <emile> ah is it any good?
[12:02] <Blissex> emile: it is better integrated with GNOME. Not a huge advantage, but it has more cool factor.
[12:02] <Fionn> emile: as good as any browser that does not support moz extensions ;-)
[12:02] <yoko-mo> can anyone help me with my mouse problem?
[12:02] <flickerfly|home> funkyHat: not really, it does happen each time I go to gospelcon.com
[12:02] <Blissex> flickerfly|home: that can be because of a bug in the browser, or more likely some JavaScript loop.
[12:03] <selinium> fourcheeze: sudo apt-get install realplayer
[12:03] <Kromonos> i tryed to configure my intel brookdale graphics adapter, i made it with xorgcfg, but then the maximum resolution is 640x480. so i tried with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. everything is working fine. just the shift key isn't accepted :(
[12:03] <fourcheeze> selinium: now that's what I thought
[12:03] <fourcheeze> however the download page now only has real player 10
[12:03] <flickerfly|home> Blissex: I go to the same page in firefox on my Gentoo system without problems
[12:04] <fourcheeze> selinium: and the installer wants 8 I think
[12:04] <slask3n> Blissex: Why so sarcastic and grumpy?? This is supposed to be a nice channel with nice people helping newbies and others with problems. Not just grumpy people that is just f**king up the athmosphere... Have you been laid the last month? Cause it really doesnt sound like that!
[12:04] <codecaine> anyone in her efamiliar with the xchat identify script provided by freenode?
[12:04] <Blissex> flickerfly|home: Firefox is a different browser...
[12:04] <fourcheeze> so I installed realplayer 10 manually
[12:04] <fourcheeze> and it just sits there
[12:04] <flickerfly|home> Blissex: it happens in firefox and epiphany
[12:04] <Fionn> so... nobody here using network-manager?
[12:04] <Blissex> flickerfly|home: but not in Gentoo?
[12:05] <robotgeek> Fionn: me using!
[12:05] <fl> good night, guys.
[12:05] <selinium> fourcheeze: oh, I installed realplayer via apt and got no trouble. Did you enable the extras/backport repos before installing?
[12:05] <slask3n> So what app under linux makes 1:1 copies of CD's?
[12:05] <Blissex> slask3n: it is a nice channel, and some people could ask better questions.
[12:05] <Fionn> robotgeek: how did you get the panel applet to appear!?
[12:05] <flickerfly|home> Blissex: Correct
[12:05] <codecaine> slask3n, gnomebaker
[12:05] <fourcheeze> selinium: no - how do I do that?
[12:05] <selinium> !tell fourcheeze about repos
[12:06] <h08817> !repositories
[12:06] <ubotu> I heard repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:06] <fourcheeze> tks
[12:06] <fl> slask3n, dd if=/dev/your_cd of=copy.bin bs=2K
[12:06] <robotgeek> Fionn: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start, "sudo nm-applet" to start applet, recommend a restart
[12:06] <Blissex> slask3n: that's _in  the general case_ impossible. Moreover I think no free software utilities exist to do that, for the obvious reasons. However, however, you can get for fairly cheap Nero for Linux, and that might do something.
[12:06] <fl> Blissex, beg to differ. Why should it be impossible?
[12:06] <selinium> h08817: thats what the !tell does but it sends it to the user not the channel
[12:06] <Blissex> flickerfly|home: that's quite odd that Firefox freezes on Ubuntu but not Gentoo.
[12:07] <Kromonos> Blissex: i tryed to configure my intel brookdale graphics adapter, i made it with xorgcfg, but then the maximum resolution is 640x480. so i tried with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. everything is working fine. just the shift key isn't accepted :(
[12:07] <Fionn> robotgeek: oh. on my system there is no init.d script. NM is started by dbus.  And why "sudo" for nm_applet?
[12:07] <flickerfly|home> Blissex: Since it happens on both Epiphany and Firefox, I'm thinking its some plugin or something.
[12:07] <slask3n> Blissex: I agree, but most of the people asking here is not familiar with linux, and doesn't have the knowledge enough to express them self so accurate as others... Btw, Nero doesnt make 1:1 copies
[12:07] <Blissex> fl: because he wants ''copy protection'' bits copied too, and those often rely on illegal sector formats on the disc.
[12:07] <robotgeek> Fionn: i know, but it refuses to start without the sudo
[12:08] <Blissex> slask3n: Nero does _some_ copy protection workarounds...
[12:08] <Blissex> flickerfly|home: that's possible, in that case it would be Flash.
[12:08] <slask3n> Blissex: yes I know, but i want 1:1 copies not copyprotection work-arounds
[12:08] <robotgeek> slask3n: u mean like clonecd?
[12:08] <Fionn> robotgeek: I can start it as root or as user - no iconn appears in my panel.  :-(
[12:08] <fl> Blissex, oh man, I forgot people use copy protected CDs. I just don't buy that sh*t.
[12:08] <Tripp> Does anyone know how to change mp3 to ogg?\
[12:09] <slask3n> robotgeek: yes something similar too clonecd just for linux
[12:09] <flickerfly|home> Blissex: flash? I wouldn't have guessed that, but it could be.
[12:09] <whyameye> Blissex, just so you know, nobody answered on #Gnome. One wouldn't think adding a menu item would be so hard...or uncommon.
[12:09] <fl> but a little playing with the tools should do the trick, even here...
[12:09] <flickerfly|home> Blissex: thanks, I'll try updating that
[12:09] <fl> so, good night.
[12:09] <fourcheeze> tripp I usually pipe a decoder into oggenc
[12:09] <Fionn> slask3n: k3b supports some kind of nibble copy mode
[12:09] <Fionn> slask3n: I think it uses cdrdao for that
[12:09] <selinium> Tripp: have you tried sox?
[12:10] <Blissex> fl: and reading ''broken'' sectors and then writing them requires special drives/logic, even if many do support that.
[12:10] <juanej> do anyone know whats gnome default dpi???
[12:10] <Blissex> slask3n: for example it is very difficult and often impossible to 1:1 copy audio CDs, because they are in a somewhat ''raw'' format...
[12:10] <Blissex> juanej: nobody.
[12:10] <Cardoe> anyone seen Martin Pitt?
[12:10] <slask3n> Fionn: Its not making 1:1 copies including the subchannels
[12:10] <fourcheeze> selinium: ok, I've added the extras and now apt-get install realplayer installs realplayer 10 by itself
[12:11] <robotgeek> juanej: it's 75, i guess
[12:11] <juanej> Blissex, i just installed xfce and fonts are too small
[12:11] <fourcheeze> selinium:  however when I run it it just sits at the command prompt
[12:11] <codecaine> slask3n, you mean when i copy my music cd it's not an exact copy? what is it missing that's different?
[12:11] <slask3n> Blissex: I'm not going to make a audio-CD than i just rip it to mp3 or some equal format
[12:11] <Fionn> slask3n: well, usually you dont need that on linux, do you?
[12:11] <fourcheeze> selinium: if I strace it it seems to be doing waitpid(-1,
[12:11] <Blissex> whyameye: OK, I dont use GNOME, I use KDE. IIRC there is no easy GUI program yet to edit the GNOME menu, you got to edit a text file...
[12:11] <robotgeek> juanej: try to see if xfce has some method of increasing font size, maybe in style?
[12:12] <codecaine> Blissex, smeg menu editor
[12:12] <robotgeek> Blissex: smeg
[12:12] <damsko> smeg
[12:12] <selinium> fourcheeze: what are you trying to listen to/view?
[12:12] <fourcheeze> I'm just trying to open the thing
[12:12] <Blissex> slask3n: for audio CDs however 'cdparanoia' _tries_ to do a copy as close as possible, a bit like ExactAudioCopy under MS Windows, and usually succeeds.
[12:12] <fourcheeze> selinium: by typing realplay on the command line
[12:12] <juanej> robotgeek, already do that
[12:12] <juanej> but firefox websites
[12:13] <Blissex> juanej: your problem is very familiar to me...
[12:13] <juanej> and other applications stay with the same font
[12:13] <Milk_> hello!
[12:13] <slask3n> Fionn: no I actually never came across a copy protected cd for linux. but i'm going to copy some WindoZe games
[12:13] <Blissex> juanej: and it is a mess :-). The DPI is usually computed from the monitor visible image size in millimiters and in pixels.
[12:14] <Blissex> juanej: the best thing to do is to ensure that the X configuration includes the monitor size in millimiters correctly.
[12:14] <chrismy> could anyone help me with apache 404 config?
[12:14] <juanej> on gnome it was ok
[12:14] <mach1ne> hi everyone
[12:14] <emile> slask3n, i'm reading there's a hacked up version of dd called ddrescue which can do some tricks which dd cant. Never used it, but maybe the thing for you
[12:14] <codecaine> I didn't realize it didn't make an exact copy.
[12:14] <selinium> fourcheeze: one mo...
[12:14] <juanej> Blissex, do i have to measure it? lol
[12:14] <emile> http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/
[12:14] <Blissex> juanej: the second best thing is to force the ''right'' DPI at X server startup.
[12:14] <Blissex> juanej: I did it with a ruler, really.
[12:14] <juanej> Blissex, what line do i have to add to xorg.conf?
[12:14] <Blissex> juanej: however for example LCD screens have the display image size in mm in the specs.
[12:14] <robotgeek> Blissex: there's a better way to do it, pulling up the link!
[12:15] <mach1ne> i installed ubuntu yesterday and i think its great but how do i log on as root or how do i change my account to root?
[12:15] <Blissex> juanej: also, many monitors, if the support DDC, will tell the X server the size, but that's not as good
[12:15] <slask3n> Is there any apps that makes 1:1 copies of a CD including subchannels like CloneCD under WindoZe? I need it to make a 1:1 backup copies of some copy protected windows-games
[12:15] <robotgeek> ubotu tell mach1ne about sudo
[12:15] <Kromonos> fuck
[12:15] <Blissex> juanej: because the actual display image size depends on CRTs on the amount of black border for example...
[12:15] <pixelmonkey> Hey, does anyone know if there's a halfway decent way to get NetworkManager running under Hoary without compiling it + all its libraries from source?  Is anyone maintaining an unofficial repository so I can just get it and the other libs?  I suppose I could just pin breezy to do so, but I'm being lazy at the moment :)
[12:15] <Kromonos> sry, but .......
[12:15] <h08817> ?
[12:15] <Blissex> juanej: the right line id 'DisplaySize' in the 'Monitor' section.
[12:15] <mach1ne> i installed ubuntu yesterday and i think its great but how do i log on as root or how do i change my account to root?
[12:15] <chrismy> anyone?? 404 error?
[12:16] <robotgeek> Blissex,juanej : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[12:16] <rrm3> mach1ne, use sudo.
[12:16] <mach1ne> sudo?
[12:16] <mach1ne> whats that?
[12:16] <juanej> look, xdpyinfo | grep resolution reads 72x72 dots per inch
[12:16] <rrm3> mach1ne, it let's you execute things as root, so you don't have to log in as root.
[12:16] <Blissex> Kromonos: you ''shift key'' problem is most likely because you got the keyboard type wrong in the C configuration.
[12:16] <robotgeek> mach1ne: check your pm
[12:16] <chrismy> mach1ne, sudo means superuser do :D
[12:16] <mach1ne> ooh ok
[12:16] <Oewyn> is there anyway to do Protected eap authenticaion over a wireless network with ndiswrapper?
[12:16] <Kromonos> when i activate vesa driver instead of i840 keyboard and resolution are good, but if i close the lit of my laptop, x sucks
[12:17] <juanej> robotgeek, thx, im trying that
[12:17] <h08817> !tell mach1ne about sudo
[12:17] <Blissex> Kromonos: use 'xkeycaps' to check the exact type of your keyboard (101/102/104/105 keys and layout).
[12:17] <robotgeek> h08817: already did that
[12:17] <Blissex> juanej: 72 sounds a bit too low for a modern system.
[12:17] <chrismy> mach1ne, change your root account password?
[12:17] <h08817> lol sry
[12:17] <chrismy> anyone friendly enough to help me on apache? :D
[12:18] <juanej> changing to 96
[12:18] <juanej> brb
[12:18] <mach1ne> im not really familiar with linux
[12:18] <emile> to get rootshell using sudo: sudo -s -u root
[12:18] <iapx8088> chrismy, what's on
[12:18] <namelesss> hello
[12:18] <kemik> emile:  why not "sudo -i"?
[12:18] <selinium> fourcheeze: I have just installed it and it works fine for me, sorry. Maybe something that you did installing it has left some configs behind.  try sudo dpkg -P realplayer   then install again
[12:18] <namelesss> i have a problem, somebody can help me ?
[12:18] <rrm3> I need some boot options added permanently (it's a pain editing them from grub every time).  Where do I change the boot options?
[12:18] <fourcheeze> selinium: ok, thanks for that I'll give it a go
[12:18] <chrismy> iapx8088, hey there! i want to know how to setup custom 404 error. could you please guide me?
[12:18] <mach1ne> just need it for C/C++
[12:18] <selinium> namelesss: not unless yu ask
[12:19] <emile> kemik, because i didnt know that ;-) thnx
[12:19] <iapx8088> rrm3, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:19] <namelesss> ^^
[12:19] <rrm3> iapx8088, thanks!
[12:19] <namelesss> ok i want to install camllight
[12:19] <kemik> np
[12:19] <namelesss> but i only have a .rpm install file
[12:19] <namelesss> how can i install it ?
[12:19] <iapx8088> chrismy, I can recall it at the moment, but I think it's simply a directive in http.conf, and fairly simple, just name the new 404 file.
[12:20] <Nevado> anyone with an nforce mobo, is there actually any point to installing the nvidia nforce drivers? my comp seems to work fine without them (although lspci has a whole raft of 'unknown device's)
[12:20] <chrismy> iapx8088, hold on how ? the first setp will be?
[12:20] <chrismy> step
[12:20] <mach1ne> and how do install a flash plugin?
[12:20] <chrismy> iapx8088, i am dumb sorry...
[12:20] <selinium> namelesss: use alien
[12:20] <namelesss> that's what  i do
[12:20] <iapx8088> chrismy, at first you need the htm 404 custom page, do you
[12:20] <namelesss> but now i have a .deb file
[12:20] <tristanmike> namelesss, alien converts to .deb
[12:20] <namelesss> in home
[12:20] <namelesss> yes
[12:20] <drewfus> my system wont recognize my slave drive unless i plug it into the cd ide controller as the master, any ideas?
[12:20] <namelesss> how install a .deb ?
[12:21] <selinium> namelesss: dpkg -i whatever.deb
[12:21] <chrismy> iapx8088, yes in my /var/www i named it error.html. content is just 'hello'
[12:21] <dalamar> dpkg -i blah.deb
[12:21] <iapx8088> chrismy, just fine
[12:21] <chrismy> iapx8088, for testing that is
[12:21] <namelesss> ok i try it
[12:21] <chrismy> :D
[12:21] <selinium> namelesss: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[12:21] <Blissex> drewfus: thats really a generic hw question.
[12:21] <Kromonos> Blissex: there my keyboard works
[12:21] <chrismy> iapx8088, so what is next?
[12:21] <drewfus> i dont know where to get help with it though
[12:21] <drewfus> sorry
[12:21] <iapx8088> chrisn now you should edit your httpd.conf
[12:21] <chris> hey does does anyone know if theres are debs for the gnome 2.12 testing release?
[12:21] <Crepusculo> i dont obtain to mount a second HD thats in VFAT, my kernel is 2.6.10-5-386. would have as to reconfigure it?
[12:21] <Blissex> drewfus: but typically its because you haven't changed the jumpers quite right.
[12:22] <drewfus> they are
[12:22] <namelesss> hey it works !!!
[12:22] <chrismy> iapx8088, ok i found 2 httpd.conf. so which you refer?
[12:22] <namelesss> thanks for all selinium
[12:22] <drewfus> uata using cable select
[12:22] <iapx8088> chrismy, first read it all, and search for something about custom errors
[12:22] <selinium> namelesss: np
[12:22] <chrismy> iapx8088, hold on
[12:22] <iapx8088> chrismy, tell me the path
[12:22] <drewfus> ive also tried normal jumper settings with the correct master slave jumpers
[12:22] <iapx8088> chrismy, or find a way to make apache show the one it's reading
[12:23] <chrismy> iapx8088, yes # Customizable error response (Apache style)
[12:23] <selinium> fourcheeze: Any joy?
[12:23] <chrismy> iapx8088, i didn't understand. what path? how show?
[12:23] <drewfus> might it have anything to do with the fact that when i boot up with both drives plugged in it says drive 1 not found drive 0 not found
[12:23] <chrismy> iapx8088, http://clch.zapto.org . see how you can help
[12:23] <iapx8088> chrismy, you have to edit the right one, or you changes will not be read by apache
[12:24] <drewfus> when i boot up with only my master it says drive 0 not found, but i press continue and it works fine
[12:24] <Kromonos> Error activating XKB configuration.
[12:24] <Kromonos> It can happen under various circumstances:
[12:24] <Kromonos> - a bug in libxklavier library
[12:24] <Kromonos> - a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
[12:24] <Kromonos> - X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[12:24] <Kromonos> X server version data:
[12:24] <Kromonos> The X.Org Foundation
[12:24] <Kromonos> 60802000
[12:24] <Kromonos> If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
[12:24] <Kromonos> - The result of <b>xprop -root | grep XKB</b>
[12:24] <Kromonos> - The result of <b>gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd</b>
[12:24] <chrismy> iapx8088, ok i set it ErrorDocument 404 /error.html
[12:24] <juanej> damn, i just do that xorg.conf thing and dpi stays at 72
[12:24] <iapx8088> chrismy, for understanding the right one, I believe you are on your own
[12:24] <chrismy> iapx8088, so i restart apache?
[12:24] <iapx8088> sure
[12:24] <chrismy> iapx8088, yes sure
[12:24] <Oewyn> is there anyway to do Protected eap authenticaion over a wireless network with ndiswrapper?
[12:25] <iapx8088> Kromonos, that' s what I definitely call flood
[12:25] <Kromonos> sry
[12:25] <Kromonos> but this is the fucking error message that i got
[12:25] <tristanmike> Kromonos, that's why there is pastebin or #flood
[12:26] <Kromonos> ok, sorry, i don't know about this
[12:27] <mach1ne> how do reg my nick?
[12:27] <selinium> Kromonos: You are lucky the channel op isn't around, you could of earned yuorself an instant kickban
[12:27] <EasterSunshine> Kromonos: that is because you didn't read the topic upon entering the channel
[12:27] <iapx8088> ./ns help register
[12:27] <Blissex> juanej: either add '-dpi <whatever>' to where the X server is started, or use 'DisplaySize' in the _right_ 'Monitor' section.
[12:27] <Kromonos> yes EasterSunshine, because i can't read it because of the fucking error message
[12:27] <Blissex> juanej: what kind of monitor is yours BTW? inches, type and pixels you got on it.
[12:28] <slask3n> Is there any apps that makes 1:1 copies of a CD including subchannels like CloneCD under WindoZe? I need it to make a 1:1 backup copies of some copy protected windows-games
[12:28] <Kromonos> and of the *argh* resolution of 640x480
[12:28] <lJlolel> how do i set the time from the command line?
[12:28] <Kromonos> and my dead shift keys
[12:28] <selinium> Kromonos: EasterSunshine may of been the one to help you, not so sure he would now?
[12:28] <juanej> Blissex,  SyncMater 551c 15' 800x600
[12:28] <iapx8088> lJlolel, date
[12:28] <juanej> i already add DisplaySize	211	158 to the xorg.conf
[12:28] <mach1ne> ./ns help register
[12:28] <Blissex> juanej: that _may_ be a 72 DPI display.
[12:29] <juanej> but it doesnt seem to help
[12:29] <juanej> Blissex, its already at 72
[12:29] <selinium> Kromonos: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and follow the instructions.
[12:29] <Blissex> mach1ne: type "/msg NickServe help register"
[12:29] <Kromonos> selinium: i made this twenty times
[12:29] <EasterSunshine> Kromonos: ah good point. and if you are in a console outside x, the resolution is actually 740x400
[12:29] <dalamar> -e
[12:29] <icewt> anyone happen to know if there are xmms2 packages for ubuntu somewhere?
[12:29] <sm> hi.. how can I make sudo remember my password for longer ?
[12:30] <Blissex> juanej: thats the point I was making -- 72 might be the right resolution. Wait a sec for me to check.
[12:30] <juanej> brb, gonna see whats gnome dpi
[12:30] <lJlolel> iapx8088, thanks!
[12:30] <selinium> Good night all
[12:30] <dalamar> icewt, doubt it, xmms's website says its not at a state for public use yet even
[12:30] <lJlolel> thats perfect
[12:30] <Blissex> juanej: BTW, why aren't you running it at 1024x768? That should be possible, if a little blurrier.
[12:30] <Kromonos> i couldn't get into a console outside x :( alt f1 ... aren't working too
[12:30] <selinium> quit
[12:30] <yath> stay
[12:30] <dalamar> ctrl + alt + f1?
[12:31] <Kromonos> nothin is working correctly with this fucking intel brookdale + xorg
[12:31] <Kromonos> *argh*
[12:31] <Kromonos> dalamar: doesn't work
[12:31] <dalamar> hm
[12:31] <dalamar> just making sure you had the ctrl part ;)
[12:32] <Kromonos> and if i use vesa instead of i810 i just see a black screen after restarting x
[12:32] <Crepusculo> i dont obtain to mount a second HD thats in VFAT, my kernel is 2.6.10-5-386. would have as to reconfigure it?
[12:32] <Blissex> Kromonos: that's very odd indeed. the 'vesa' driver should work with practically anything.
[12:32] <Kromonos> if i restart my laptop and x boots with vesa it works
[12:32] <Kromonos> yes vesa works, as long as i don't close the lit or logoff the user
[12:33] <juanej> hehe
[12:33] <juanej> i just started gnome
[12:33] <juanej> and go back to xfce and it works
[12:33] <icewt> dalamar, well, there are packages for some distributions anyway
[12:33] <dalamar> icewt, *shrug* I dont really know why its worth messing with if they say its not at a level for public use
[12:33] <juanej> going to reboot to see if it keeps that way
[12:34] <dalamar> unless your looking to do devel on it
[12:34] <icewt> dalamar, because they need people to test it? and because i'm curious?-)
[12:34] <dalamar> why dont you compile it then? surely they offer the source
[12:35] <jchico> how can I use Ubuntu with different WMs?
[12:35] <EasterSunshine> jchico: have you tried installing different wms?
[12:35] <icewt> dalamar, i was just asking if there happens to be packages, don't start a fight with me because of that ;)
[12:35] <EasterSunshine> jchico: which wm do you want?
[12:35] <Kromonos> so, i will now activate vesa. but i'm sure, i'll get a black screen after restarting gdm without restarting my laptop
[12:36] <jchico> according that the package manaer I already have one, it's the Window Maker
[12:36] <Blissex> jchico: depends; try 'xinit' and then type in the command to start the WM you want.
[12:36] <dalamar> uh im not, im giving you a solution
[12:36] <icewt> dalamar, your first comments don't look like that
[12:36] <juanej> now it works perfect
[12:36] <juanej> thx very much
[12:36] <icewt> dalamar, i know i can compile it, but thanks anyway
[12:37] <dalamar> heh ooookay ...
[12:37] <eliphas_> I have a question how to disable ubuntu to boot directly into graphical environenemnt a start
[12:37] <eliphas_> ? please
[12:40] <yath> eliphas_: you want to login in the console?
[12:40] <adjacent> eliphas_: dont start gdm at boot
[12:40] <yath> chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[12:41] <eliphas_> that's all?
[12:41] <eliphas_> there is not a level to change some1 told me
[12:41] <adjacent> eliphas_: you could make it more complicated if you want
[12:41] <yath> changing the runlevel is too drastic.
[12:42] <eliphas_> but maybe is taht something to know?
[12:42] <yath> eliphas_: Ubuntu doesn't use runlevels that way.
[12:43] <eliphas_> ah ok
[12:43] <yath> That advice might apply to Slackware
[12:43] <eliphas_> tahnks for the tip adjacent and yath
[12:43] <adjacent> eliphas_: you could also remove or edit the links in each /etc/rc#.d/ dir
[12:43] <nadjyla> hello
[12:43] <eliphas_> adjacent lol sounds too complicated already now you said it
[12:43] <eliphas_> lol
[12:44] <adjacent> there is a tool to auto config those though (or at least debian had one)
[12:44] <yath> update-rc.d
[12:44] <adjacent> thats it =)
[12:44] <yath> i prefer chmod tho
[12:45] <topyli> sysv-rc-conf is another, very easy tool
[12:45] <DekaPink> Ooooh. Clams.
[12:45] <darkheart> DekaPink Are you talking about e17?
[12:45] <yath> heh
[12:45] <DekaPink> Clams + e17 = love?
[12:45] <DekaPink> Umm... Yes? :3
[12:46] <damsko> how can i configure the screenshot program?
[12:46] <topyli> it's too pretty even :)
[12:46] <darkheart> DekaPink lol sorry, I looked at your post then turned to do something and forgot what I read.
[12:46] <uthini> doing stuff brb
[12:47] <yath> damsko: why?
[12:47] <darkheart> DekaPink There are repos that people have put up for e17 packages.
[12:47] <DekaPink> xD No worries, darkheart
[12:47] <topyli> damsko: you can take a screenshot anyitime
[12:47] <DekaPink> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59568 <- I just saw this Howto and it sparked my interest.
[12:47] <damsko> is there an option to not open a window asking me to save or cancel it?
[12:48] <DekaPink> Though I'm pretty comfortable in gnome, now... So... Heh, I don't know.
[12:48] <actarus> hello everybody
[12:48] <yath> damsko: oh, you want it instantly?
[12:48] <damsko> or another screenshot program that doesnt asks
[12:48] <damsko> yes
[12:48] <eliphas_> I have a frie he just installed ubuntu on a windows/linux system he got a grub error 21
[12:49] <darkheart> DekaPink Then e17 is probably not for you. That thread talks about using raster's get_e.sh script to download/compile/install e17. It is easy, but no easy way to remove things. You should add a repo that will install packages that you can uninstall easily.
[12:49] <Kromonos> so, intel driver and my keyboard are working right
[12:49] <Kromonos> but i just get a resolution of 640x480
[12:49] <Kromonos> *argh*
[12:49] <darkheart> DekaPink That way you can just try it out, then remove it if you want. If you are comfortable in gnome, then e17 will be a little painful. Since it's still under development, customization isn't too easy.
[12:50] <actarus> who help me to install virtual machine for linux
[12:50] <actarus> I've VM5
[12:50] <DekaPink> darkheart: Okay, thanks for the advice. :)
[12:50] <yath> damsko: dunno
[12:50] <paulproteus> actarus: qemu ?
[12:51] <paulproteus> actarus: aptitude install qemu
[12:51] <damsko> thank you anyway
[12:52] <actarus> ok I've done
[12:52] <adjacent> yikes, ubuntu just got me. i screwed up and did usermod -G blah user, and now it says user isnt in /etc/sudoers...
[12:52] <Kromonos> what is dri?
[12:52] <adjacent> how do i get back in sudoers
[12:52] <Deeded> hey i wanna burn a copy of ubuntu. I downloaded the live verson. I wanna burn to boot but i found no iso file to burn the imamge. How do i burn it so it wil boot?
[12:52] <actarus> thank you
[12:53] <yath> Deeded: what did you download?
[12:53] <steven__> is there any way to know if somebody logs in into the box? Like if i am root, can i make a script to output a message?
[12:53] <Deeded> Ubuntu 5.04
[12:53] <Deeded> live
[12:53] <yath> Deeded: what file I mean
[12:53] <darkheart> steven__ There a few commands I think...You can try typing 'w' in the console.
[12:53] <Deeded> ubuntu-5.04-live-i386
[12:53] <darkheart> steven__ You can try 'who' also.
[12:54] <Deeded> it came down as a rar
[12:54] <eejit2> change the ext to iso
[12:54] <kevin__> Is there a script on the hoary live cd to install to HD like there is on knoppix?
[12:54] <yath> Deeded: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso ??
[12:55] <Deeded> I'll try that
[12:55] <eejit2> Deeded, you mind finding out what the filesize is?
[12:55] <darkheart> adjacent Do you have access to sudo?
[12:55] <adjacent> darkheart: nope
[12:55] <yath> where would you get a rar of the live CD I wonder.
[12:55] <Deeded> 624
[12:55] <Deeded> mbs
[12:56] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, y can't u log in as root and fix it?>
[12:56] <Deeded> on your site
[12:56] <eejit2> Deeded, try changing the extension to iso.
[12:56] <steven__> darkheart:yea i know, but how could i make a script that if somebody logs in, it outputs a message
[12:56] <yath> Deeded: what is the url you got it from?
[12:56] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: do you even use ubuntu?
[12:56] <adjacent> root account is disabled by dfault
[12:56] <adjacent> sudo provides access
[12:56] <darkheart> adjacent Mine isn't
[12:57] <ghatak> hi, i want to keep an eye on how much  data per month is being downloaded on my dsl connection, n e way to do that?
[12:57] <Deeded> think that might have worked
[12:57] <Deeded> k just sec
[12:57] <adjacent> i never set a root password...
[12:57] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, i do use ubuntu, and i use root
[12:57] <eejit2> ghatak, usually your ISP will provide a service.
[12:57] <Deeded> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[12:57] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, use the recovery mode on the boot cd
[12:57] <darkheart> steven__ Yeah, you can do that. I'm not really sure where to put the code though =\ On OpenBSD if you are logged into a terminal as root, it will display messages like that on the screen.
[12:57] <ghatak> eejit2: that is the problem, they dont
[12:57] <CookedGryphon> i think i broke root
[12:57] <adjacent> damn, i was afraid of that
[12:58] <adjacent> oh well.
[12:58] <CookedGryphon> i kept trying to log in as root n eventually it jsut let me in neway
[12:58] <CookedGryphon> i used my user password in the end n it let me log in as root
[12:58] <eejit2> you realise there's a reason why you shouldn't always log in as root?
[12:58] <darkheart> I set up root password in expert install.
[12:59] <CookedGryphon> yeah
[12:59] <CookedGryphon> i only log in n su when i need to do rooty things
[12:59] <CookedGryphon> what do u do for ure root password when synaptic n things ask 4 it then?
[01:00] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: you use only sudo
[01:00] <adjacent> sudo -s for a root sheel
[01:00] <steven__> darkheart: well i will need to think how would i make that script
[01:00] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, i use su myself, can't b bothered typing sudo if i need to do lots of things
[01:01] <CookedGryphon> but sudo asks me for a password
[01:01] <Jet2k5> anyone here successfully installed the nforce4 drivers on ubuntu?
[01:01] <darkheart> CookedGryphon You can set sudo up not to ask for your password.
[01:01] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: sudo takes the user password
[01:02] <CookedGryphon> cool
[01:02] <damsko> someone knows if there is a screenshot program that doesnt ask to save or cancel?
[01:02] <CookedGryphon> ah, makes sense
[01:02] <CookedGryphon> but i never use it neway
[01:02] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: yeh, it took me a while to come around to, but i really like it now
[01:02] <adjacent> sorry for being a dick earlier ;)
[01:03] <nakata> sorry for being a harry earlier :/
[01:03] <nakata> btw, where's tom?
[01:03] <nakata> <3
[01:03] <tom__> happy?
[01:03] <tom__> eh?
[01:03] <tom__> ah too soon
[01:04] <nakata> there we are
[01:05] <diensthunds-_> hey are any packagers in here?
[01:06] <durt> ive got quite a package
[01:06] <damsko> someone knows if there is a screenshot program that doesnt ask to save or cancel?
[01:06] <damsko> :(
[01:06] <eejit2> have you tried print screen?
[01:06] <diensthunds-_> funny durt but I need to fix a postinst problem with a .deb I made
[01:06] <damsko> nut it ask for save it
[01:06] <svu> is there any repository with libsvg-cairo?
[01:07] <nalioth> damned OSX
[01:07] <robotgeek> nalioth: :)
[01:07] <robotgeek> nalioth: why?
[01:08] <diensthunds-_> I removed the postinit from the debian/ folder but still get a subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[01:08] <nalioth> robotgeek: i dual boot, and OSX just took a dump on me. diskwarrior reported "too much filesystem damage to repair" (call all$oft for more repair options)
[01:08] <diensthunds-_> dam nalioth that has to suck
[01:08] <cafuego> nalioth: ouch. no luck with witk util either?
[01:08] <nalioth> OSX is not my primary system
[01:08] <robotgeek> nalioth: okay, so the apple boot disk must not have worked,i presume!
[01:09] <nalioth> robotgeek: that was first in line, and it "repaired" stuff, but not what was terribly damgd
[01:09] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:09] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i managed to fix my comp :)
[01:09] <nalioth> doesnt matter, was mounting the OSX hfsplus partition for more space on linux, i'll just move it to another HD
[01:09] <robotgeek> nalioth: maybe it's a sign from the Ubuntu god, to move to ubuntu, and bless the OS X hdd with holy linux pee?
[01:09] <cafuego> nalioth: How are you using that OSX partition under Linux?
[01:10] <nalioth> cafuego: automounted via fstab
[01:10] <newborn> can someone help me get my soundcard working? im noob
[01:10] <nalioth> cafuego: symlinked a dedicated 'linux' folder into my linux $HOMEDIR
[01:10] <jchico> what soundcard is it?
[01:10] <robotgeek> nalioth: i was doing that too, till it crashed on me too. and then, i moved to ubuntu completely. sounds like a pattern :)
[01:10] <diensthunds-_> mmmm perhaps I need to find a developers node
[01:11] <newborn> jchico, its a hercules game theatre XP - it uses the cs46xx driver for alsa
[01:11] <newborn> but it doesnt seem to work
[01:11] <cafuego> nalioth: won't mount (at all) under Linux anymore?
[01:11] <nalioth> robotgeek: i'm almost to that point
[01:11] <robotgeek> :)
[01:11] <jchico> newborn: it detects it, it just doesn't play anything?
[01:11] <nalioth> cafuego: it mounts, but with i/o errors if i try to write to it
[01:11] <haakonn> i set my xorg resolution too low when i installed kubuntu, how can i increase it?
[01:12] <cafuego> nalioth: *nod* But in theory you can at least copy data *off* it?
[01:12] <newborn> jchico, im assuming so - how can I tell if it was detected properly?
[01:12] <robotgeek> nalioth: backup your data and format :(
[01:12] <nalioth> cafuego: am attempting that right now
[01:12] <diensthunds-_> well I"m off to figure
[01:12] <rapha> Does somebody know how to build a software package using autotools?
[01:12] <cafuego> nalioth: .. and here's how to suck an egg ;-)
[01:12] <mach4> hello everyone
[01:12] <muffin_> help! cant use keyboard in cedega!
[01:13] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: i have the ability to use Bash now in terminal
[01:13] <jchico> newborn, well the speaker icon should be in your panel
[01:13] <newborn> yeah, ive got a speaker icon
[01:13] <nalioth> robotgeek: my thoughts exactly *but may just leave osx off of it
[01:13] <CookedGryphon> are your speakers plugged in?
[01:13] <jchico> right click on it and open up volume control
[01:13] <newborn> done
[01:13] <jchico> what do you see?
[01:14] <newborn> PCM and speaker are both at about 75%
[01:14] <robotgeek> nalioth: as long as got everthing working under linux , i don't see why not
[01:14] <newborn> that was the first thing i checked =)
[01:14] <mach4> hoping someone can answer me a very quick question. I have an amd64 cpu, should I get 64 bit version of Ubuntu or will I have compatibility issues with certain drivers, programs?
[01:14] <nalioth> Fingolfinn: great
[01:14] <CookedGryphon> mach4, some media players ahve trouble with 64bit version
[01:15] <mach4> but the 32 bit version should work fine on my cpu, just like windows xp 32 bit does, right?
[01:15] <cafuego> mach4: Will you be using java and flash on websites, or watch xvid or divx video or encrypted dvds?
[01:15] <nalioth> this is sucking
[01:15] <Fingolfinn> nalioth: what was the applicable command you had said to run? it was something -l
[01:15] <CookedGryphon> as far as i know
[01:15] <monkey_> Is there some sort of super tweek to get ATI9700 driver to work in Ubuntu?
[01:15] <mach4> thanks
[01:15] <saintFrance> how come i cant write on the hard drives/files that i have mounted?
[01:16] <CookedGryphon> np, that's probs the first useful advice i've been able to give in here
[01:16] <jchico> newborn, have you gone to System > Preference > Multimedia System Selector?
[01:16] <cafuego> saintFrance: no permission? mounted re-adonly?
[01:16] <newborn> no, i will now
[01:16] <saintFrance> so how do i put permission or make it un-read only?
[01:16] <cafuego> saintFrance: No idea. What fs is it? Where on it are you trying to write to?
[01:17] <osity> anyone know how i can start a degraded array??
[01:17] <saintFrance> i have 2 hard drives
[01:17] <newborn> jchico, its on ESD.. if i change it to alsa and try and test i get 'failed to construct test pipeline for alsa'
[01:17] <saintFrance> and my 2nd one i mounted so i can see my files
[01:17] <saintFrance> but i cant write on it
[01:17] <muffin_> help! keyboard stays in system instead of changing to cedega. (if i type stuff, i can see it in console afterwards, instead of cedega)
[01:17] <hardw1re> try: /etc/fstab
[01:17] <cafuego> saintFrance: is it NTFS?
[01:17] <saintFrance> i believe so
[01:17] <CookedGryphon> saintFrance, what type of filesystem is it?
[01:17] <cafuego> saintFrance: You can't write to that.
[01:17] <saintFrance> ahh i see
[01:17] <cafuego> saintFrance: (as in ever)
[01:18] <saintFrance> i see
[01:18] <hardw1re> NTFS can only be mounted in read-only
[01:18] <hardw1re> writing to ntfs is too complex for linux at this time
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> unless u download some risky packages
[01:18] <CookedGryphon> that could mess up ure whole hdd
[01:18] <saintFrance> so what file system should i make it then?
[01:18] <jchico> newborn, must be your drivers then, did you pick that yourself or Ubuntu?
[01:18] <adjacent> you can write into ntfs, but its very limited
[01:19] <nalioth> well folks
[01:19] <CookedGryphon> saintFrance, you cna't convert it unless its blank
[01:19] <nalioth> time for a total systemic reinstall (bye bye data)
[01:19] <osity> gotta go ....sorry
[01:19] <CookedGryphon> from ntfs that is
[01:19] <saintFrance> yah ill just erase all my media in it
[01:19] <eliphas_> !ubuntu
[01:19] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[01:19] <newborn> ubuntu picked something which didnt work, then i started playing around with picking it myself, probably not well
[01:19] <saintFrance> i just have some anime in it
[01:19] <saintFrance> ahha
[01:20] <newborn> ill try rebooting incase ive got some stupid modules loaded, brb
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> saintFrance, reformat it as ext2 if its just gna b used in linux, or fat32 if u want to use it in woindows too
[01:20] <saintFrance> alright so fat32 so it can be both linux and windows?
[01:20] <saintFrance> gotcha
[01:21] <saintFrance> thank you
[01:21] <drewfus> can anyone suggest a good graphics card they know works well with ubuntu
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> drewfus: 6600GT
[01:21] <sjg> drewfus, nvidia based :P
[01:21] <tristanmike> drewfus, pretty much anything from nvidia
[01:21] <CookedGryphon> drewfus, i have nvidia Geforce FX5200, works well, ace card
[01:21] <tristanmike> how much is the 6600GT?
[01:21] <drewfus> what about others that use nvidia technology
[01:21] <saintFrance> 150
[01:21] <drewfus> like bfg
[01:22] <sjg> I unfortunately currently have a ati based card and it does work as well.
[01:22] <tristanmike> Me too on the FX5200, no complaints here either
[01:22] <saintFrance> $150 around that area
[01:22] <jchico> i got a GeForce 6800 GT, works good.
[01:22] <saintFrance> 6800gt = 300
[01:22] <saintFrance> ahha
[01:22] <sjg> drewfus, the branded nvidia cards works just fine
[01:22] <jchico> hehe :D
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> tristanmike: cheap as
[01:22] <drewfus> does the 6600gt support dual monitor?
[01:22] <saintFrance> jchico: i want one!!!
[01:22] <tristanmike> USD??
[01:22] <yaru22> where can I download movie codecs ?
[01:22] <HrdwrBoB> !restrictedformats
[01:22] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[01:23] <saintFrance> what is another good messenger for linux? besides gaim? are there any other?
[01:23] <drewfus> is it pci or agp
[01:23] <saintFrance> both
[01:23] <saintFrance> u can get it for both
[01:23] <drewfus> sweet well im off to get it or one like it
[01:23] <drewfus> thanks
[01:23] <saintFrance> ahh!!
[01:23] <saintFrance> wanna get me one too?
[01:23] <saintFrance> lol
[01:23] <drewfus> sure just transfer me the money
[01:23] <drewfus> and a little extra
[01:23] <drewfus> you know... gas
[01:23] <saintFrance> u know my b-day is about to come up.. *nudge nudge&
[01:23] <drewfus> :-)
[01:24] <saintFrance> :(
[01:24] <saintFrance> haha
[01:24] <drewfus> thanks, ill talk to you guys later
[01:24] <nalioth> i am so screwed
[01:24] <nalioth> firewire target disk mode isnt seein my primary HD on the stricken machine
[01:24] <saintFrance> ouch
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> sounds nasty
[01:25] <Viziri> I've spent the last few hours  trying to get connected to the net. I followed instructions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44763&page=1&pp=10&highlight=330 and think i'm missing something really obvious. i've done a 'ipconfig' 'route' and "tail -f /var/log/syslog" - anyone mind quickly checking my results?
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> think that's the extent of the advice ure gna get
[01:25] <saintFrance> how do you run windows on linux/
[01:25] <qatsi> ok, i need to know of a filesystem which can be writen by linux and windows.....ntfs isnt writable with linux, fut ive heard about fat32 or something like that.....this is because i need a partition for info switching from win to linux....any idea ?
[01:25] <CookedGryphon> wow Viziri , i jsut put the modem applet on my panel n it worked
[01:26] <CookedGryphon> qatsi, fat32 works
[01:26] <nalioth> qatsi: fat32 if you aint writing any files over 4gb in size (dvd iso images, for instance)
[01:26] <CookedGryphon> its the older windows filesystem
[01:26] <CookedGryphon> but linux can write to it no problem
[01:26] <qatsi> great !........
[01:26] <Viziri> ?
[01:26] <qatsi> ahh nope, the partition type will be 1gb, so i cant do that :p
[01:26] <newborn> jchico, ok, now i *sort of* have sound =)
[01:26] <qatsi> thanx for the info !...
[01:27] <nalioth> qatsi: huh?
[01:27] <jchico> newborn, hehe how so?
[01:27] <nalioth> fat32 has a "FILESIZE" limit of 4gb, not a partition size limit
[01:27] <saintFrance> 4 gb each file?
[01:27] <newborn> jchico, well im getting sound but its really bad quality..
[01:27] <adjacent> ok. ive made progress with my sound card. i moved it to another PCI slot, and now it is properly recognized by alsamixer, but the volume control app in gnome now says no audio device/controls found. am i missing a step?
[01:28] <nalioth> saintFrance: with fat32 you cant write an individual file over 4gb in size
[01:28] <saintFrance> i see
[01:28] <CookedGryphon> newborn, what r u playing the sound with?
[01:28] <jchico> newborn, I think that might be the soundcard's fault here's some info if it helps: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Hercules#matrix
[01:28] <Blissex> nalioth: even worse: the limit is really 2GB.
[01:29] <jchico> it says that " (1) Output always resampled to 48khz."
[01:29] <nalioth> Blissex: 2gb, 4gb, cant write dvd images to it
[01:29] <newborn> i had it working when i had gentoo installed
[01:29] <Blissex> nalioth: 8cm DVD images :-) (1.3GB)
[01:29] <CookedGryphon> newborn, i found that a lot of media players either went really slow or sounded really low bitrate, beep-media-player seems to work best tho, i've tried like 5
[01:29] <newborn> CookedGryphon, just playing a cd with the included cd player
[01:29] <nalioth> blasted brand new powermac already bodgered
[01:30] <Blissex> CookedGryphon: sound system issue probably, look at troubleshooting and quality sections of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[01:30] <saintFrance> hey for all you linux only people.. how do you play video games?
[01:30] <cafuego> nalioth: Just send it to me, I'll send you the athlonxp.
[01:30] <saintFrance> lol
[01:30] <jchico> saintFrance: get a console
[01:30] <saintFrance> hahaa
[01:30] <nalioth> cafuego: Athlon64x2?
[01:30] <sjg> agreed
[01:30] <sjg> console :P
[01:30] <jchico> i like my xbox. :>
[01:30] <saintFrance> bah my ps2 is mean
[01:30] <saintFrance> wait so is there a way to play windows games in linux?
[01:30] <CookedGryphon> i odn't play games much
[01:31] <CookedGryphon> some, with wine
[01:31] <nophix> saintFrance: www.transgaming.com
[01:31] <nalioth> cafuego: wonder if disk utility would work on a f/w mounted volume? (with my luck, it'd bodger my good machine)
[01:32] <Viziri> can anyone take a look at my ipconfig results and tell me what's wrong? - only a few lines
[01:32] <CookedGryphon> Viziri, that's what #flood is 4
[01:32] <CookedGryphon> or pastebin
[01:32] <thenuke> Viziri: try pasting them into pastebin
[01:32] <htaccess> hi im trying to compile something and im getting an error when i run make: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpq collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" how can i fix this?
[01:33] <newborn> i think i might have screwed things up a bit installing a newer alsa.. any way to undo that damage? =)
[01:33] <adjacent> newborn: at least you have sound =)
[01:33] <newborn> it hurts to listen to though..
[01:33] <adjacent> for me, running esd just sits there doing nothing, and my audio device seems to be invisible to everything _but_ alsa
[01:34] <CookedGryphon> newborn, have u tried all the different sound thingys?
[01:34] <newborn> nope
[01:34] <CookedGryphon> if u think its alsa that's screwed, change to OSS or somethign
[01:35] <kemik> awh :( new wine doesnt run Expekt pokerclient :(
[01:35] <CookedGryphon> system -> preferences -> multimedia system selector
[01:35] <cafuego> what's the facination with poker anyway?
[01:36] <kemik> cafuego:  you earn money.. :)
[01:36] <eliphas_> yo
[01:36] <Mekza> yo
[01:36] <kemik> cafuego:  if you play it right that is
[01:36] <Mekza> :)
[01:36] <kemik> earn/win
[01:36] <newborn> changing to OSS doesnt do anything
[01:36] <cafuego> from what I've seen on tv the idea is to lose all dress-sense and wear bad sunglasses
[01:36] <newborn> im going to reboot and check that my onboard sound is definitely disabled
[01:36] <kemik> cafuego:  hehe.. well.. true dat ;)
[01:37] <CookedGryphon> poker's all about drinking whiskey, from a bottle, with a straw, and jazz... at least in my experience
[01:37] <Viziri> ok - pasted it here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1622
[01:37] <adjacent> xit
[01:37] <kemik> cafuego:  but i've managed to win a few hundreds of $ and its fun to play :) so i want to get a client running in linux
[01:37] <kemik> so i wont' have *any* reason to dualboot
[01:37] <adjacent> kemik: vmware is your best friend
[01:37] <kemik> CookedGryphon:  homegames are nice
[01:38] <kemik> adjacent:  won't that actually run windows from linux?
[01:38] <adjacent> kemik: yep
[01:38] <cafuego> kemik: Yes, best way to run windows apps.
[01:38] <kemik> well.. wine would be a sexier solution ;)
[01:39] <kemik> but maybe i'll have to use vmware.. how much overhead isit by running 2 OS's? 10% ?
[01:39] <chi> whats with java not being available anymore>?
[01:39] <CookedGryphon> u can get jaa from Seveas' repository
[01:39] <CookedGryphon> java*
[01:39] <kemik> chi:  im not sure, someone said it was temp. broken 2days ago... but it seems odd that it's not fixed... license issues?
[01:39] <Decker|Laptop|Zz> sup all :)
[01:39] <CookedGryphon> or from www.java.com, but i got told off 4 tellin sum1 that yesterday, even tho i did n it works
[01:39] <dalamar> i heard it has been taken out of extras period
[01:40] <kemik> adjacent, cafuego; know how much overhead there is running windows with vmware ?
[01:40] <cafuego> chi: You can always build jre/jdk from the .bin from sun.
[01:40] <newborn> yay!
[01:40] <tristanmike> why would it be taken out?
[01:40] <adjacent> i say use java.com too, then things look the same on every distro
[01:40] <cafuego> kemik: a fair bit; but then again: if you run win98 or soemthing, it'll still be snappy.
[01:40] <newborn> onboard el-crappy audio wasnt disabled.. turned it off in bios and everything sound sweet now
[01:40] <newborn> thanks guys
[01:40] <adjacent> kemik: no idea, i havent had to use vmware for ages
[01:40] <kemik> *shudder* win98 .. the pain of rebooting
[01:40] <ginvent> snappy...
[01:41] <newborn> the next thing i'll need a lot of help with: getting my DVB card to work ;)
[01:41] <cafuego> no point running XP Pro in vmware JUST for a poker client
[01:41] <Dragon> hm has anyone tried Gnome Power Manager?
[01:41] <CookedGryphon> who wanted java package?
[01:41] <Viziri> Hi - i've pasted my ifconfig result here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1622 - could anyone see if there is something obvious i should to to correct the problem?
[01:41] <kemik> cafuego:  well, to identify my hardware etc it'll be hell using win98
[01:42] <kemik> Viziri:  there's no NIC configured
[01:42] <dalamar> win98 and on board stuff dont like to talk in my experience
[01:42] <Viziri> ah
[01:42] <kemik> Viziri:  what are you trying to do? isit a WLAN card ?
[01:42] <Viziri> no - it's a speedtouch ADSL mdem (330)
[01:43] <kemik> i'll install my new 1gb ram tomorrow and maybe give vmware/xp a shot... maybe
[01:43] <Viziri> I followed instructions here perfectly http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44763&page=1&pp=10&highlight=330
[01:43] <cafuego> kemik: to identify the hardware? in vmware?
[01:43] <kemik> Viziri:  ok, so the modem is connected to a ethernet card right ?
[01:43] <cafuego> kemik: the vmware helpfile tells you *exactly* what it is.
[01:43] <adjacent> kemik: i had really good results with win2k
[01:43] <cafuego> (and yes, it's all outright suppoted)
[01:43] <kemik> cafuego:  maybe i should readup on vmware ;) i though win98 still did the hardware detection etc..
[01:43] <Viziri> no ke
[01:44] <Viziri> kemik*
[01:44] <_SWAT_> kemik, let me know about the perfomance you'll get from WinXP (on VMware :D)
[01:44] <kemik> _SWAT_:  i'll do some research on vmware first ;)
[01:44] <kemik> never used it
[01:44] <cafuego> kemik: yes, but all it can detect is the hardware that's emulated by vmware, which is an intel ide controller, some dec eth chip.... etc.
[01:44] <kemik> Viziri:  so where do you plug the cable from the modem in your computer?
[01:44] <_SWAT_> kemik, VMware emulates an entire pc (more or less)
[01:45] <_SWAT_> kemik, got a 3500+ here with 2048 of RAM. That should suffice :)
[01:45] <Viziri> it's USB modem kemik
[01:45] <adjacent> argh. this is obnoxious. everything shows my sound card, but i cant get any sounds!
[01:45] <kemik> _SWAT_:  that system is lots-a-more hardcore than my 2year old baby ;) (2500+ 1gb)
[01:46] <adjacent> what good is 250G of music if you cant hear it ;)
[01:46] <kemik> Viziri:  oh, they come as USB devices now..
[01:46] <_SWAT_> kemik, that should also suffice :). I've even got WinXP working on a 350Mhz 128MB SDRAM computer :D
[01:46] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, i bet u broke it on purpose to brag about it
[01:46] <tristanmike> lol
[01:46] <kemik> Viziri:  cant help then..
[01:47] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: i wish
[01:47] <Viziri> It's driving me nuts. I've followed 3 different tutorials and no luck
[01:47] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, tell u what, post ure hdd to me, n i'l llisten to ure music, that way at least its getting used
[01:47] <kemik> _SWAT_:  mmh, i installed Ubuntu on a p2-233 64mb system.. but oh isit slow.. takes >5minutes to boot and login to X
[01:47] <_SWAT_> kemik, were you running Gnome?
[01:48] <kemik> Viziri:  well it's some weird hardware ;) how does it behave in windows?
[01:48] <kemik> _SWAT_:  yeah! ;)
[01:48] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: haha =) mail me a HD and ill load it up for you
[01:48] <_SWAT_> kemik, that's it. Just use flluxbox/openbox/enlightenment (much easier on the hardwar)
[01:48] <Viziri> it behaves perfectly kemik  - and i think it's a popular model, particuarly in UK
[01:48] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, .. interesting.... what kinda music r u into?
[01:48] <kemik> _SWAT_:  i tried IceWm, but figuring it's my parents computer i couldnt leave them with a system that didnt autodiscover their USB-printer and camera
[01:48] <kemik> _SWAT_:  i also tried xfce4
[01:49] <osity> anyone know a bit about raid 1
[01:49] <_SWAT_> kemik, right. For non-techies it's uhh... difficult
[01:49] <kemik> to say the least.. they find gnome a bit scary sooo
[01:49] <_SWAT_> osity, no, what is raid 1? ;-) :-P
[01:49] <kemik> osity:  isnt that mirroring ?
[01:49] <codecaine> stripe
[01:49] <codecaine> or mirror?
[01:49] <kemik> 0 is tripe
[01:49] <codecaine> mirror
[01:50] <osity> mirror
[01:50] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: a fairly wide variety, lots of jam stuff and classic rock
[01:50] <_SWAT_> kemik, just buy a low-budget pc.... an old AMD system or something :)
[01:50] <remyforbes777> anyone using ubuntu 64 bit
[01:50] <CookedGryphon> classic rock i like
[01:50] <CookedGryphon> jam i like
[01:50] <Viziri> it's a pain going back and forth (rebooting) from xp (to use net)  to ubuntu to try new tutorial installation guides for this modem. Is there a easier way - is there a way to access ubuntu desktop on windows xp?
[01:50] <CookedGryphon> not sure if i like jam music
[01:50] <kemik> _SWAT_:  yeah that's what i'm looking for.. something in the 150-dollar range should suffice
[01:50] <kemik> P3-500mhz or something
[01:50] <osity> i had it working and then i unplugged a drive to test and it worked...but now it's plugged in and it says "active raid [2/1]  [u_] 
[01:51] <codecaine> yeah using vmware, xen or maybe even that emu loader program
[01:51] <kemik> Viziri:  not really.. that'd involve using vmware etc
[01:51] <nalioth> remyforbes777: i am on my powermac
[01:51] <kemik> Viziri:  and i dont think that's what you really want
[01:51] <CookedGryphon> adjacent, i'm having to filter my music down to my fave 30 GB neway to take to uni on my laptop
[01:51] <_SWAT_> I mean.. just use the old pc case, cd/dvd drives, disk drive, hdd, graphics card, soundcard and NIC (if possible). Then you'll only need mobo/cpu/ram (or if the old ram fits... ) :-D
[01:51] <codecaine> QEMU will work for booting iso images too which is neat
[01:52] <_SWAT_> kemik, that was ment for you :D
[01:52] <kemik> _SWAT_:  no-can do.. it's a stupid Compaq
[01:52] <Viziri> if i have the moden running on windows xp, will i be able to install firmware for it at the same time in linux? i'm not sure if it can handle 2 tasks at the ame time
[01:52] <adjacent> CookedGryphon: get a seagate 200G for cheap and an external fw/usb case
[01:52] <kemik> _SWAT_:  and you know what compaq and all other Brand-name PC's are... -EVIL
[01:52] <_SWAT_> kemik, ouch..... yeah... they're bitches allright
[01:52] <Viziri> assuming i use vmware ^^
[01:52] <_SWAT_> kemik, just build your own :) (from spare parts or something)
[01:52] <kemik> but they got it so damn cheap back in .98 ;)
[01:52] <nalioth> adjacent: you are so behind the times, the new hotness is external SATA drives
[01:53] <adjacent> nalioth: i um with the times, just not with the $$ flow
[01:53] <kemik> _SWAT_:  mmh.. but i'm out of spare parts.. all i got is 512mb ddr-ram ;)
[01:53] <_SWAT_> kemik, I've got uhh..6 PC's up here. 1 = mine, 1= parents, 1= my server, 3 = ... don't know yet. At least spare parts :D
[01:53] <CookedGryphon> i have a budget of 300 for my laptop
[01:53] <CookedGryphon> i'm a student for chrissake
[01:53] <kemik> _SWAT_:  sort of like i used to have
[01:54] <kemik> _SWAT_:  but 2 were p166mmx's so i donated them
[01:54] <CookedGryphon> *think* i'm getting value 4 money, thinkpad 1.5ghz, 256 ram, wireless lan, etc for 300
[01:54] <kemik> now i got my desktop, a server and a p2-233 laptop using debian/icewm... ;)
[01:54] <_SWAT_> it's 200Mhz, 166Mhz, 133Mhz
[01:54] <Viziri> where u getting that CookedGryphon ?
[01:54] <CookedGryphon> brand new, n with winXP (spit) pre-installed which probs bumps the price up :(
[01:54] <_SWAT_> kemik, always good for a server of somekind
[01:55] <CookedGryphon> aha, i ahve a mate who works 4 siemens n can get em uber cheap
[01:55] <_SWAT_> well, I'm going to bed know (school awaits in a few hours).
[01:55] <kemik> _SWAT_:  well, i used to live in a dorm so i really didnt need 5computers around ;)
[01:55] <kemik> gnite
[01:55] <Viziri> that's not fair, i could do with a 300 laptop with those specs
[01:55] <tristanmike> I heard if you buy a laptop from dell, I can't put Ubuntu from it because of the disks they supply, is this true?
[01:55] <kemik> tristanmike:  is sounds like bollox
[01:56] <nalioth> tristanmike: you can put ubuntu on almost anything
[01:56] <tristanmike> kemik, probably, I don''t know
[01:56] <CookedGryphon> u can put ubuntu on toast if u want
[01:56] <tristanmike> mmmmm ubuntu on toast
[01:56] <chi> amarok wont install either
[01:56] <tristanmike> They said that i have to put the os they provide
[01:56] <nalioth> tristanmike: in fact, if it werent for m$ holding the fear of financial reprocussions over Dells head, theyd sell linux on their machines already
[01:57] <plonker> hello
[01:57] <kemik> Michael Dell said something about wanting to offer Linux as an OS too i think
[01:57] <kemik> in some article/interview
[01:57] <Dragon> a.. has anyone tried Gnome Power Manager 0.1?
[01:57] <tristanmike> so it isn't anything like their BIOS is locked off, or anything
[01:57] <kemik> tristanmike:  sounds highly unlikely
[01:58] <tristanmike> ok, I want to get one in the next couple of months and I wanna get a high end one, but not if I can't put Ubuntu on :)
[01:58] <tristanmike> thanx
[01:58] <Viziri> ok ok - i think i've probably tried one too many tutorials trying to install this modem and probably jumbled up configs. Is there a quickfire way to revert to original ubuntu setup (equivalent to reinstalling a seeing ubuntu first time) without having to reinstall?
[01:58] <neels> does anyone know how to enable cpu frequency scaling on ubuntu amd64
[01:58] <neels> ?
[01:59] <kemik> tristanmike:  if it's a desktop i'd recommend you to build your own..
[01:59] <remyforbes777> anyone using ubunut 64 bit
[01:59] <kemik> Viziri:  can't say that i know how... what's the issue now? somethings not working at all ?
[02:00] <nakata> ubunut, heh..
[02:00] <nakata> obento!
[02:00] <tristanmike> kemik, no, not a desktop, if it were, I'd definiativly would build my own, kinda like the self built one I have now and gave me NO problems with Ubuntu ;)
[02:00] <Viziri> same issue - i'm just frustrated that nothing has helped and i've wasted soooo many hours trying :9
[02:00] <kemik> Viziri:  i know that feeling ;)
[02:00] <tristanmike> kemik, like an alienware or something would be nice
[02:00] <CookedGryphon> what modem type is it?
[02:00] <karljp> is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ now an official place to get backports? or is there a better place?
[02:00] <oceandead> overpriced imo
[02:01] <kemik> tristanmike:  aint alienware ridiculously expensive?
[02:01] <Viziri> speedtouch 330 adsl usb (silver)
[02:01] <kemik> !backports
[02:01] <ubotu> backports are applications with newer versions on a stable distributions. Ubuntu backports can be found in the hoary-backports section
[02:01] <kemik> o crap.. someone changed it...
[02:01] <kemik> !hoary-backports
[02:01] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, kemik
[02:01] <tristanmike> kemik, i was looking at some laptops and they were somewhat comperable to dells, a little more pricey but i like the case
[02:01] <CookedGryphon> hmm, i jsut ahve dialup modem n it just worked
[02:02] <kemik> tristanmike:  looks before functionality... -apple! ;) j/k
[02:02] <tristanmike> kemik, touche
[02:02] <dalamar> my homebuilt desktop gave me no probs with ubnutu either, -everything- worked out of the box ;)
[02:03] <tristanmike> I was looking at "linux laptops" like laptops sold with linux and they were like 4 grand US, I couldn't believe it
[02:03] <oceandead> psscht
[02:04] <cafuego> tristanmike: I believe Ubuntu has a laptop program with HP laptops. Find out which model and check the HP site :-)
[02:04] <Viziri> ok - i'm reinstalling :(. I give it one more go, and if it messes up again i give up like i did with Mandrake....  and then go back to windows. The force is always pulling newbies back to windows....
[02:04] <karljp> kemik, what were you hoping the !backports trigger would itell me?
[02:04] <dalamar> laptops are over-rated, im sorry ... too picky and too much generic shit built into them
[02:04] <tristanmike> cafuego, will do
[02:04] <tristanmike> thanx
[02:04] <cafuego> tristanmike: (Mine's an nx9005, which runs Ubuntu just dandy  -it IS about 3 years old, though)
[02:04] <karljp> pick a mirror from backports.ubuntuforums.org and knock myself out?
[02:05] <kemik> Viziri:  http://speedtouchconf.sourceforge.net/ <-- tried that ?
[02:05] <dalamar> the day you can build a lappie like a desktop will be the coolest thing ever
[02:05] <cjhapzl> hello guys
[02:05] <oceandead> you can
[02:05] <cafuego> dalamar: the manufacturers will never let you eat their margin like that
[02:05] <dalamar> not small and nice and cool  though
[02:05] <oceandead> just more of a pita
[02:05] <Viziri> kemik: that was the first thing i tried. Many people are having problems with that
[02:05] <kemik> karljp:  that Backports are now official ;)
[02:06] <oceandead> oh you can buy laptop components and put it together yourself
[02:06] <kemik> Viziri:  mmh, M$ really has the plug'n'play edge
[02:06] <oceandead> but you dont save  all that much money and its more of a pain
[02:06] <kemik> oceandead:  well i'd hardly recommend that tho
[02:06] <Viziri> yeah :( ...  my ISP supply it free with new customers
[02:06] <Viziri> to*
[02:06] <karljp> so does that mean they're now a repository on [country] .archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports ?
[02:06] <kemik> when it comes to laptops i'm sticking with brand-names.. due to quality issues
[02:07] <dalamar> oceandead, exactly, hardly close to building a desktop machine
[02:07] <kemik> had a non-brand laptop and everthing broke init
[02:07] <cafuego> Viziri: Just coz it's free from the ISP doesn't mean you can't run your own, self-bought, ethernet dsl modem instead.
[02:07] <dalamar> brand names are key in everything, even desktop heh
[02:07] <oceandead> dalamar: for sure not the same - i was just saying you can if you really want to
[02:07] <dalamar> the more ppl that use your hardware the more support it can possibly have imo
[02:07] <kemik> dalamar:  no, when it comes to desktops brand-names are more of a headache imo
[02:08] <oceandead> dalamar: that, i disagree with
[02:08] <dalamar> kemik, thats the silliest thing ive ever heard
[02:08] <webby> hi
[02:08] <oceandead> although, i guess it depends on your budget...
[02:08] <dalamar> my comp is all brand name and everything is smooth as glass
[02:08] <karljp> dalamar, I'm with kemik on this
[02:08] <kemik> dalamar:  they all have non-standard solutions so they force you to buy their overprice *shit*
[02:08] <cafuego> dalamar: Yes, because broadcom 802.11b (like the one EVERYONE uses) has *such* great support *smirk*
[02:08] <karljp> brand name desktops are often junk and over priced.
[02:08] <adjacent> ok. im buying a new sound card, this old sblive 5.1! is pissing me off too much
[02:08] <tristanmike> I would never ever buy a dell for a desktop, I'd have to build my own, I don't trust commercial desktop systems
[02:08] <karljp> brandname laptops actually work
[02:08] <cafuego> s/b/g/
[02:08] <oceandead> if youve only got $500 for a desktop - you might as well get a brand name
[02:09] <adjacent> any opinions on the turtle beach riviera?
[02:09] <CookedGryphon> i ahve only ever had a brand pc, and it was shite, coul,dn't change everything, they stuck it in place with lil clips that broke as soon as u touched em
[02:09] <darkslider> If you only have $500. . . you need to look in the right place for parts.
[02:09] <oceandead> but if youve got a few bucks - put it together yourself
[02:09] <dalamar> im not saying a -built- brand name desktop, im saying the parts you use in a custom built should be brand name heh
[02:09] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: the idea is that you don't touch it, but pay them to do it.
[02:09] <darkslider> I built my own for only $400.
[02:09] <oceandead> darkslider, somewhere aside from ebay i hope ;)
[02:09] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: See, you bought  abrand name PC< therefore you know nothing about computers and will NOT attempt to modify it yourself.
[02:09] <CookedGryphon> i kno, tha'ts my gripe
[02:09] <tristanmike> mine was $1200 after the monitor
[02:10] <dalamar> i not talking dell's guys lol, i mean the guts should be brand name
[02:10] <CookedGryphon> but i got given it, so felt obliged to take it
[02:10] <CookedGryphon> oh rite
[02:10] <karljp> dalamar, ok, that's completely different :)
[02:10] <CookedGryphon> that's different
[02:10] <oceandead> hahaha - then i agree dalamar
[02:10] <karljp> we probably all agree with you then :)
[02:10] <tristanmike> yup, yup
[02:10] <darkslider> Oceandead: Not from Ebay. . .
[02:10] <tristanmike> lol
[02:10] <dalamar> indeed ;)
[02:10] <cafuego> dalamar: As long as the brand isn't Realtek.
[02:10] <kemik> realtek for the win!
[02:10] <nalioth> dell is selling lappys for $499 nowadays
[02:10] <kemik> heheehe
[02:10] <kemik> :/
[02:11] <dalamar> cafuego, i dont consider that brand name  .. lol and -anything- windows specific!
[02:11] <cafuego> nalioth: but they're dell... they stink.
[02:11] <oceandead> yep - check out the refurbished dell laptops for a deal too - same warranty as new ;)
[02:11] <oceandead> dell laptops arent too bad - id rather have a toshiba but...
[02:12] <CookedGryphon> what about an ibm thinkpad?
[02:12] <karljp> is there any way to get a list of what's in hoary-backports?
[02:12] <tristanmike> i was impressed with the ibm ones
[02:12] <cafuego> oceandead: a pile of dead ones here say otherwise
[02:12] <karljp> thinkpads rock, but are far too expensive :(
[02:12] <CookedGryphon> yeah i'm getting one for 300
[02:12] <karljp> dell laptops are cheap, but not nearly as solid as  the thinkpads
[02:12] <oceandead> pile of dead laptop whats -  dells or toshibas
[02:12] <CookedGryphon> 1.5ghz 256 mb ram, wireless lan etc
[02:13] <karljp> and everybody loves the nipple.
[02:13] <cafuego> karljp: you get what you pay for. if you still want it to work in 5 years, a thinkpad is cheap.. whereas a dell will have been 'remanufactured' 8 times at that point.
[02:13] <oceandead> yeah but we were talkin budget laptops
[02:13] <juanej> how do i take a screenshot with console or the gimp?
[02:13] <dalamar> linux and lappies have always had headaches .. its just one of those things where you cant control what hardware's inside it and support for matsushitagonnamukruasen hardware just isnt there ;)
[02:13] <tristanmike> so spend the 2 grand on a tink-pad, ;)
[02:13] <karljp> cafuego, hehe sure.
[02:13] <tristanmike> ??
[02:13] <oceandead> thinkpads aint exactly $500
[02:13] <karljp> depends whether you still want to use the thinkpad in 5 years or not anyway :)
[02:13] <karljp> I'm more concerned with slining it around rough for 2 years, vs 6 months
[02:13] <kemik> IBM's designteam usually gives me nightmares
[02:14] <tristanmike> dell and ibm let me "customize" the laptop, raised the price to make it more Ubuntu friendly
[02:14] <dalamar> i've owned an old thinkpad and it still wasnt easier .. it may be diferent now though
[02:14] <cafuego> tristanmike: You don't like the Linux tax?
[02:14] <rendi> guy's i wanna download mp3 have program like winmx ??
[02:14] <karljp> sooo, is there any way to see what's actually in hoary-backports?
[02:14] <CookedGryphon> rendi, beep-media-player's the best i've found
[02:14] <tristanmike> cafuego, i guess it's only fair, since i don't pay for the software :)
[02:14] <cafuego> rendi: doenloading mp3s is piracy, mate.
[02:14] <oceandead> lame
[02:15] <CookedGryphon> oh sry eyes not working
[02:15] <kemik> cafuego:  nah, it's not
[02:15] <oceandead> not all mp3
[02:15] <CookedGryphon> download, there's limwire
[02:15] <kemik> cafuego:  only copyright protected mp3s
[02:15] <rendi> in xp i usualy use winmx
[02:15] <kemik> !dcpp
[02:15] <ubotu> methinks dcpp is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084 , a porting of the popular DC++ client
[02:15] <rendi> mm like kazaa
[02:15] <cafuego> if you NEED winmx, it probably is
[02:15] <rendi> mp3 sharing
[02:15] <medamaybe> could someone please tell me why I even bother with making backup files?!?!
[02:15] <kemik> rendi:  tried DC ?
[02:15] <dalamar> kazaa is poop ;)
[02:15] <kemik> rendi:  if not, see ubotu's link
[02:15] <CookedGryphon> rendi, limewire is like kazaa
[02:15] <oceandead>  lame or amule etc
[02:15] <medamaybe> samba worked, I messed the smb.conf file up, I restored the backup smb.conf file  and it doesn't work anymore!?!
[02:16] <tristanmike> boo-urns to limewire and kazza....C.R.A.P.
[02:16] <kemik> medamaybe:  maybe you messed up with the restoring part?
[02:16] <eliphas_> I have a friend he has a error 2& with grub
[02:16] <eliphas_> 21*
[02:16] <kemik> medamaybe:  and you've restarted the sambaserver ?
[02:16] <medamaybe> no, I'm absolutely sure I didn't mess up with the restoring part
[02:16] <medamaybe> I double checked it
[02:16] <medamaybe> and yeah, I've restarted the samba server
[02:16] <dalamar> usenet is your friend for dling -anything- ;)
[02:17] <oceandead> hahaha
[02:17] <karljp> ok, looks like gnomebaker 0.4 isn't in backports anyway :)
[02:17] <dalamar> arrr!
[02:17] <karljp> back to the source
[02:17] <kemik> medamaybe:  and you've gone over the smb.conf file again, made sure it's correct ?
[02:17] <medamaybe> yeah I have
[02:18] <karljp> usenet is like sucking the firehydrant of warez and porn
[02:18] <medamaybe> I only changed the workgroup and security
[02:18] <kemik> medamaybe:  so what exactly isnt working now ?
[02:18] <medamaybe> uhm..I can't see anything in my LAN
[02:18] <kemik> tried accessing it with the IP number ?
[02:18] <adjacent> aha. got sound through esd
[02:18] <oceandead> mmm porn
[02:18] <adjacent> which sucks, but its way better than no sound at all
[02:19] <medamaybe> not yet
[02:19] <benplaut> hello :)
[02:19] <tristanmike> hi
[02:19] <oceandead> internet would be a waste without it - well, ok, maybe not a _waste_ but ...
[02:19] <medamaybe> omg...it's working again
[02:19] <medamaybe> and I didn't change a thing
[02:19] <dalamar> magic!
[02:19] <kemik> oceandead:  there would be no internet w/o porn
[02:19] <durt> you can get great porn if you have a videosz.com pass...
[02:20] <oceandead> there would be but it would be boring as hell thats for sure
[02:20] <dalamar> dvds, albums. games, there is internet without porn ;)
[02:20] <mach4> where do I get a videosz pass
[02:20] <kemik> mmh, probably only for academics ,)
[02:20] <kemik> but let's not turn this into a porn/warez channel
[02:20] <kemik> im sure some ppl would be very upset
[02:21] <durt> ubuntu would be more popular if it shipped with some free porn
[02:21] <oceandead> hahaha
[02:21] <kemik> durt:  yeah it would be the OS of choice for many i'm sure
[02:21] <dalamar> yeah but some admins in the chan are a lil too uptight about 'off-topic' stuff imo .. i mean the whole ubuntu thing is about community and what are we spose to chat about if all our systems are working okay? ;p
[02:22] <karljp> anyone know which of the multitude of *gnomeui* packages gnomebaker needs?
[02:22] <oceandead> there is an off-topic channel
[02:22] <kemik> dalamar:  true that... ;) but still.. they're admins and not youme ;)
[02:22] <dalamar> oceandead, which is always dead ;p
[02:22] <dalamar> kemik, true heh
[02:22] <oceandead> i know ive been in it the whole time, not a word
[02:23] <dalamar> oceandead, i talk more in my sleep than the people chat in that channel
[02:23] <oceandead> the whole time ive been in this channel as well i mean
[02:23] <oceandead> dalamar hahaha you too ?
[02:23] <rendi> where to download gnome theme ?
[02:23] <rendi> have any site ?
[02:23] <dalamar> oh jeez, i give away all the secrets, cant sleep w/ the gf ;)
[02:23] <iiiears> gnome-look.org
[02:23] <Luna-Tick> or http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//art.gnome.org/&ei=E2EOQ53kLMr2YODv7LcE
[02:24] <nalioth> rendi: www.deviantart.com
[02:24] <concept10> what means does ubuntu use to automount usb hard disks?  my automounting isnt working today
[02:24] <rendi> ty
[02:24] <Luna-Tick> er... http://art.gnome.org/
[02:24] <karljp> bloody hell. gnome libraries are a mess
[02:25] <oceandead> gnome-volume-manager i believe
[02:25] <g14> Does anyone know how hard it is to remaster an ubuntu live cd?
[02:25] <benplaut> !remaster
[02:25] <ubotu> benplaut: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:25] <benplaut> no, i didn;t
[02:25] <g14> I want to make a live cd for the hula project http://www.hula-project.org
[02:25] <dalamar> only in holland
[02:25] <dalamar> ubotu your the coolest!
[02:25] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, dalamar
[02:26] <dalamar> well i dont know any other languages ubotu
[02:26] <medamaybe> could someone explain to me the difference between security = share  and security = user, in the smb.conf file?
[02:26] <concept10> g14, looking up remastering knoppix and probably more specifically gnoppix
[02:26] <g14> I was wondering if anyone has done it
[02:26] <g14> Im interested in using the ubuntu breezy live cd, not knoppix
[02:27] <oceandead> same principle ?
[02:27] <concept10> g14, you dont have to use knoppix, just the instructions, gnoppix is based on ubuntu now
[02:28] <g14> ok
[02:28] <fanopnaic> ouch, are the newer lftp versions with TLS supposed to work with SSL?
[02:28] <karljp> anyone know how to hack around ubuntu's package names for gnome?  gnomebaker wants to use pkg-config to find libgnomeui-2.0
[02:28] <Glenage> hey all
[02:28] <Luna-Tick> Hi Glenage :_
[02:29] <Glenage> okay
[02:29] <Glenage> question time
[02:29] <avanspronsen> medamaybe: share = one password for the share, user = user id/password for each user
[02:29] <Glenage> is this anything like sony sound forge in linux? doesnt have to be as complex or as good, just basic features
[02:29] <g14> karljp: hack around gnomebaker's make and autoconf files
[02:29] <oceandead> audacity
[02:29] <karljp> that's one way I guess
[02:29] <g14> Glenage: Ardour
[02:29] <benplaut> Glenage, is that an audio editor?
[02:30] <Glenage> benplaut: yes
[02:30] <benplaut> audacity
[02:30] <benplaut> or pick up this month's Linux Format magazine... they review about 7
[02:30] <concept10> Audacity will do the job, but it isnt close to being as robust as Sound Forge
[02:30] <Glenage> i have my decks connected to my PC via line-in on my sound card, i can record mixes using sony sound forge and was wounding if i could do it in linux
[02:31] <karljp> bloody people that make cd burning software depend on vorbis and mp3 decoders
[02:31] <karljp> unhelpful.
[02:31] <concept10> Glenage, Audacity for stereo tracks, Im not sure about the multitrack recording capabilities of it.
[02:31] <benplaut> how can i hook up an ubuntu laptop to log into a windows domain?
[02:32] <concept10> karljp, they cant include that stuff, along with all other 'free' software
[02:32] <karljp> no, I wish they wouldn't but it is
[02:32] <oceandead> automagically or...
[02:32] <karljp> well, not mp3
[02:32] <karljp> but gnomebaker depends on libvorbis
[02:32] <Glenage> okay thanks concept10
[02:32] <karljp> and has no configure --option to disable it
[02:32] <rendi> lol now how to instal that's theme
[02:32] <concept10> karljp, just install it
[02:32] <g14> gnomebaker 0.4 uses gstreamer, not libvorbis
[02:32] <rendi> !theme
[02:32] <ubotu> rendi: I give up, what is it?
[02:32] <jkblitz> hi if i instal ubuntu can i later on restor the pc back to windows
[02:33] <karljp> well, it depends on vorbisfile
[02:33] <karljp> concept10, sure, but I shouldn't have to!
[02:33] <concept10> rendi, whats the problem
[02:33] <CookdGryphon> jkblitz, depends, do u want to retrieve all you rocs and programs?
[02:33] <g14> Ubuntu doesnt have gnomebaker 0.4 right now
[02:33] <jimothy> karl, do you have an ubuntu live cd:
[02:33] <concept10> karljp, you could have installed it by now
[02:33] <rendi> i have already donwload theme from http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150
[02:33] <rendi> now i can't find the readme
[02:33] <karljp> concept10, much rather whine about it :)
[02:33] <jkblitz> no just if i dont like ubuntu
[02:33] <rendi> how to instal that theme
[02:34] <karljp> just about all the cd burning packages I've looked at wanted to install lots of audio codecs that I don't need/want
[02:34] <CookdGryphon> jkblitz, if u want to try out ubuntu without risk you could get the live cd to try out ubuntu
[02:34] <concept10> rendi, open folder that contains the theme, drag and drop the theme to the theme window
[02:34] <rendi> theme window ?
[02:34] <jkblitz> really
[02:34] <concept10> karljp, the mp3 codec is to turn the mp3's to wav files when you want to make a cd
[02:35] <karljp> I knwo what it's for silly
[02:35] <karljp> but if I never burn cds like that, why should I be forced to install them?
[02:35] <rendi> in dir /home/admin/.themes ?
[02:35] <concept10> rendi, system > prefrences > theme
[02:35] <CookdGryphon> jkblitz, yea, dl the cd image, burn it to a cd, then u can boot from it without touching ure hard drive
[02:36] <rendi> and
[02:36] <ce33na> I don't worry too much about extra codecs/libraries/etc. This is not windows. They will not break the system and they usually don't take up too much room.
[02:36] <karljp> they don't break them on windows either actually.
[02:36] <concept10> karljp, you shouldnt have to... but it might have hooks into the encoder for something else. You have to realize free software is built upon other free software and libraries
[02:36] <concept10> rendi, self explanitory
[02:37] <concept10> rendi, drag the .tar.bz file into the theme window
[02:37] <concept10> and drop it like its hot
[02:38] <rendi> it say format invalid
[02:38] <concept10> rendi, what theme are you talking about
[02:38] <rendi> i'm download from this site http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=15783
[02:39] <ce33na> system-preferences-theme-install theme
[02:39] <jkblitz> so in theroy if i used a windeos restore disk i could go back from linux to the windeos os?
[02:39] <ubuntu43243243> hi
[02:39] <volvoguy> ok folks. i moved hdb from my raid array from the first ide bus to the second and apparently it can't find it (wrong uuid?). will i need to boot a live cd or something to troubeshoot?
[02:39] <rendi> The format is invalid
[02:40] <concept10> rendi, thats not a theme
[02:40] <rendi> 15994-tuxmania.tar.gz
[02:40] <rendi> lol
[02:40] <ce33na> jkblitz: if you install linux and then want windows back...you will have to do a fresh windows installation (unless you did a dual boot setup)
[02:40] <concept10> that is the login for GDM
[02:40] <ubuntu43243243> I want to install ubuntu, but the installer doesnt see my partitions, I have 1 ntfs, 1 fat32, 1 reiserfs, 1swap
[02:40] <rendi> oh ic
[02:40] <hardw1re> !kernel
[02:40] <ubuntu43243243> but they dont appear on the manual partition menu
[02:41] <jkblitz> what??
[02:41] <volvoguy> ubuntu43243243, IDE or SATA?
[02:41] <ubuntu43243243> volvoguy, IDE
[02:41] <concept10> ubuntu43243243, install on whatever partition and mount them later
[02:41] <concept10> so
[02:41] <jamie_1> guten tag.
[02:41] <ubuntu43243243> concept10, it tells me that it will create a big partitionin all the disk, soi wil loose all my partitions
[02:42] <Madpilot> hi everyone
[02:42] <volvoguy> ubuntu43243243, hmm... i can't say i've ever run into that. how did you create the partitions?
[02:42] <concept10> volvoguy, me either.
[02:42] <ubuntu43243243> with windaows, and Im running another linux
[02:42] <volvoguy> ubuntu43243243, can you go back a step and tell it  you want to manually edit the partitions?
[02:42] <karljp> http://pastebin.com/346447  gotta love patch searching
[02:42] <ubuntu43243243> thats what I select
[02:42] <ce33na> ubuntu43243243: please run that by me again. It sounds like you want to manually edit
[02:43] <ericz> when you order cd's from shipit.ubuntu.com... do the install cd's include a way to install a bootloader?
[02:43] <ce33na> ubuntu43243243: if you have another linux, you could create the partition from there if you have free space available
[02:43] <ubuntu43243243> I have 2 options -> erase the entire disk or manually edit the partitiontable
[02:43] <volvoguy> ubuntu43243243, that IS weird. you can boot your other linux OS and mount the drives ok?
[02:43] <concept10> karljp, what are you doing? why did you just use synaptic, apt-get or aptitude?
[02:43] <ubuntu43243243> I use the second one, but none of my partitions appear
[02:43] <ubuntu43243243> yeah
[02:43] <concept10> *didnt
[02:44] <ubuntu43243243> I can enter the other linux
[02:44] <juanej> anyone using xchat tray plugin on xfce??
[02:44] <ubuntu43243243> I just dont know why ubuntu doesnt see them
[02:44] <karljp> concept10, no, that's after a checkinstall from source
[02:44] <concept10> why dont you just use apt-get?
[02:44] <volvoguy> ubuntu43243243, is it a weird motherboard or laptop or soemthing? i've just never even heard of ubuntu not detecting an ide drive.
[02:44] <ce33na> yep...set up the partitions from the side that works, then make sure and install ubuntu on those partitions.
[02:45] <karljp> concept10, if you can show me gnomebaker 0.4.x in apt, then by all means :)
[02:45] <karljp> you think I do this for fun?
[02:45] <ubuntu43243243> mmm. I dont knowits a compaq presario 2100, Ive never had problems before
[02:45] <dalamar> k3b owns anyway ;)
[02:46] <concept10> karljp, yes, you seem you are looking for some fun today..... (I didnt know you wanted 0.4
[02:46] <volvoguy> ubuntu43243243, well i'm sure there's probably some poking around with the hardware while in your outher linux install, but i'm no expert. i probably can't help troubleshoot any further.
[02:46] <karljp> I need 0.4.1 to be able to add a volume label to a dvd
[02:46] <karljp> though I should really jsut go and get nero for liinux and be done with it.
[02:47] <ce33na> ubuntu43243243: if you get it working...I wouldn't worry too much about why. You only have to install debian based systems, such as ubuntu, once. You can upgrade on the fly from a single successful installation
[02:47] <concept10> karljp, just use a sticker
[02:47] <concept10> :)
[02:47] <ubuntu43243243> ce33na, I have arch linux onit
[02:47] <concept10> or a sharpie
[02:47] <karljp> it will have writing on it as well.
[02:47] <volvoguy> karljp, nerolinux isn't really up to par with the open source burners yet. just fyi.
[02:48] <karljp> volvoguy, nice to know, thanks.
[02:48] <dalamar> sharpies are the coolest
[02:48] <karljp> was sort of hoping for nero on windows, only for linux
[02:48] <ubuntu43243243> volvoguy, Im going to try again and I will write down what it shows me
[02:48] <concept10> karljp, your paste doesnt provide any debugging info
[02:48] <ce33na> ubuntu43243243:  I have no experience woth arch linux. I'm sure the basic tools are there. This problem can be handled with tomsrtbt for that matter.
[02:49] <jasoncohen> karljp, have you tried k3b or gnomebaker?
[02:49] <ubuntu43243243> ce33na, maybe theres a bug on the installer
[02:49] <volvoguy> karljp, not to knock it - it does what their website says it does, but it's not anything like the windows version and the linux version usues a lot of older libraries.
[02:49] <ubuntu43243243> be right back
[02:49] <karljp> jason: you've obvioiusly not been paying attention to the conversation :)  this all started by trying to get a recent version of gnomebaker running
[02:49] <karljp> I've tried k3b, but I find qt's file dialog world to be just weird
[02:50] <karljp> it has different pros and cons to gnomebaker.
[02:50] <rendi> anyone now can help me how to instal gnome icon ?
[02:50] <karljp> so neither of them are optimal really ;)
[02:50] <dalamar> k3b is seckzy
[02:50] <volvoguy> karljp, i joined the conversation late. have you tried the typical "configure, make, make install" route instead of checkinstall?
[02:50] <jasoncohen> karljp, i wasn't following. i just started reading
[02:50] <concept10> rendi, icons?
[02:50] <rendi> yup
[02:50] <rendi> icons
[02:51] <karljp> oh yeah, k3b wouldn't let me resize columns, so I couldn't see all the whole filename
[02:51] <concept10> rendi, drag and drop like before
[02:51] <karljp> volvoguy, checkinstall just replaces the make install section
[02:51] <ce33na> rendi: on the desktop?
[02:51] <karljp> not the rest of it.
[02:51] <rendi> drag and drop to ?
[02:51] <rendi> what place ?
[02:51] <karljp> you still config/make, you jsut get a .deb made and isntalled for you at the end, that you can remove afterwards
[02:51] <ce33na> rendi: sorry, I'm not following
[02:52] <diegovb> i need help
[02:52] <volvoguy> karljp, ok. just checking. i've only needed to do one non-apt install thus far and it was for some silly little thing.
[02:52] <karljp> hehe, lucky you :)
[02:52] <karljp> I do plenty
[02:52] <rendi> oh done
[02:52] <concept10> rendi, system > prefrences > theme > theme details button > theme tab
[02:52] <rendi> yes drag and drop
[02:52] <rendi> ty
[02:52] <rendi> :)
[02:52] <nalioth> now we play with the lovely livecd
[02:53] <diegovb> can you help me installing tibia?
[02:53] <zerboxx> Has anyone here setup the WPC54Gver2 with ndiswrapper?
[02:53] <diegovb> :O
[02:53] <hari`> diegovb, remove patella first, and be careful of ankle tendons.
[02:53] <ce33na> tibia?
[02:54] <ce33na> isn't that a bone
[02:54] <volvoguy> rendi, do concept10's last suggestion. open up theme preferences and drag/drop in that window.
[02:54] <diegovb> Tibia, the game, tibia.com
[02:54] <ericz> does anyone know if the install cd's shipped from "shipit" on ubuntus website has configuration for a bootloader?
[02:54] <ericz> or does it wipe the hard drive
[02:54] <nalioth> ericz: yes it does
[02:54] <nalioth> ericz: you can choose either way
[02:54] <ericz> ok, great
[02:54] <ericz> thanks
[02:55] <diegovb> how can ia install tibia?
[02:55] <eazel7> hi ppl
[02:55] <eazel7> I have an obvious bug here, that seems that I will never solve by reinstalling another thousand times dbus or hal (packages.ubuntu.com says it's in devel/dbus, but I use the latest dbus packages
[02:55] <eazel7> Failed to start message bus: Failed to open "/etc/dbus-1/system.conf": No such file or directory
[02:55] <ce33na> diegovb: give me a second. I'm updating my package list to see if it is there
[02:56] <eazel7> I doesn't have that file, how can I get it? somebody had this problem or can help?
[02:56] <eazel7> (this leads into errors starting hal)
[02:56] <ce33na> diegovb: have you ever installed from source?
[02:56] <concept10> !mount
[02:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[02:56] <karljp> hmm, doesn't burn a dvd as fast as windows did, but at least it seems to be doing it :)
[02:57] <volvoguy> which did you end up with karljp ?
[02:57] <karljp> gnomebaker is chugging away.
[02:57] <volvoguy> karljp, cool!
[02:57] <karljp> it's worked for cds in the past, but this is the first dvd I've stuck it with
[02:58] <concept10> anyone know anything about anyone and anything ?
[02:58] <darkheart> !dma
[02:58] <karljp> it's easier than the cli, but not nero for windows.
[02:58] <volvoguy> concept10, yes. i do.
[02:58] <karljp> so good enough I guess
[02:58] <ce33na> diegovb: I'm using many extra package repositories and it is not there. I'll stick my kneck out and say that this is a source code install.
[02:59] <concept10> I need help with mounting my USB hard drive, it used to auto mount but it doesnt now.  Where should I start?
[02:59] <volvoguy> karljp, i often email nero and encourage them to keep working on the linux version. i usually get a thank you message back saying that it isn't a high priority but they're still working on it.
[02:59] <dennis__> Guys
[02:59] <karljp> probably getting done by a staff member at home during the night
[02:59] <dennis__> How would I start the esd service?
[02:59] <ce33na> concept10: /etc/fstab
[02:59] <darkheart> dennis__ Type 'esd' in a console
[03:00] <dennis__> K
[03:00] <volvoguy> karljp, most likely. :)
[03:00] <dennis__> Thanks darkheart
[03:00] <darkheart> np
[03:00] <ce33na> be careful...make a backup copy if you have never been there before
[03:01] <volvoguy> i guess i lost my RAID guru from earlier. he said i shouldn't have a problem moving one disk from an array to another IDE bus. i seem to be having issues with it though (even though it's still "hdb" as it was on the first ide bus).
[03:02] <orlok> volvoguy: what sorts of controllers?
[03:02] <orlok> some use different CHS translation methods
[03:02] <benson> i need some help mounting a hdd
[03:02] <concept10> ce33na, usb hasnt been mounted using fstab
[03:02] <volvoguy> orlok, just regular IDE controllers. using linux software raid.
[03:03] <orlok> volvoguy: if its a different bus, how could it still be hdb?
[03:03] <zerboxx> Anybody here use a wireless PCMCIA card??
[03:03] <orlok> or did you remove one controller and add another?
[03:03] <darkheart> !usb
[03:03] <ubotu> darkheart: Are you on ritalin?
[03:03] <durt> zeroboxx: yes
[03:03] <medamaybe> what do I have to do for my win2000 box to show up in the "network places" in ubuntu?
[03:03] <orlok> volvoguy: and what chipset/brant is the ide controller?
[03:03] <ce33na> concept10: I'm going to back out on this one. I don't understand everything I know about how linux handles usb
[03:04] <volvoguy> orlok, once i got ubuntu installed i removed the cdrom drive and moved the second HDD to that bus. so each ide drive is on it's own bus by itself.
[03:04] <volvoguy> the one on the primary buss should still be hda, second drive on second controller still hdb.
[03:04] <benson> if soemone coudl help me send me a PM please
[03:05] <orlok> volvoguy: thats weird, secondary master is usually hdc
[03:05] <volvoguy> orlok, it's a hand me down computer. i didn't poke around much. i think it might be a via chipset.
[03:05] <karljp> benson, just help clarify what you're trying to do
[03:05] <orlok> hda/hdb/hdc/hdd
[03:05] <zerboxx> durt: Do the lights on your card work? I just bought a new card, and ndiswrapper finds the hardware, but the power/link light isn't working
[03:06] <volvoguy> orlok, when i initially installed, both drives were on the first controller and were hda and hdb. cdrom was on the second bus and was hdc.
[03:06] <durt> zeroboxx: what type of card are you using?
[03:06] <darkheart> concept10 Paste the output of 'mount' when you plug in your USB drive.
[03:06] <benson> well im trying to setup a duel boot, i installed windows, and i installed ubuntu, well, i rebooted and hit ESC to get to the menu and all i have were 3 linux choices, some people said i installed ubuntu over windows, but i knew i didnt, we finally found it and mounted it in /mnt/windows, im wondering if i need to reinstall windows or what am I missing for the dual boot to work?
[03:06] <orlok> volvoguy: so the primary slave is now on the secondary controller?
[03:07] <orlok> volvoguy: did you rejumper it?
[03:07] <zerboxx> durt: WPC54G(ver2) with ndiswrapper
[03:07] <Mr-Petah> hi all, i have a problem mounting a iso image, here is the error: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1624
[03:07] <volvoguy> orlok, yep. primary slave moved to secondary master - and i moved the jumper to make it a master.
[03:07] <Mr-Petah> need help, support me plz ;)
[03:08] <avanspronsen> !dualboot
[03:08] <ubotu> [dualboot]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[03:08] <concept10> darkheart, thanks, but i mounted them already
[03:08] <durt> zerboxx: good - have that too: you have to rmmod ndiswrapper, rmmod acx_pci, then modprobe ndiswrapper again
[03:08] <darkheart> concept10 So you got it working?
[03:08] <benson> well i was able to mount the windows partition, but i cant find my other drive
[03:09] <zerboxx> durt: Will that be constant now? light will always be on?
[03:09] <volvoguy> orlok, i'm going to move it back to it's original position and poke around to see if the config files are messed up somewhere.
[03:09] <concept10> darkheart, yes, but I was wondering why it didnt automount as usual.
[03:09] <nadjyla> good bye
[03:09] <zerboxx> durt: and just curious, which driver did you install? (I used lstinds)
[03:09] <darkheart> concept10 Yeah, sometimes that stuff is screwy..
[03:10] <iiiears> Mr-Petah - I don't know if it means anything but NFSU2 is a securerom protected disk. - curious how were you able to make an iso? -  never had any luck myself.
[03:10] <durt> zerboxx: so it came on? if so, add "acx_pci" to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[03:10] <volvoguy> i'm off to go kick this thing around. be back in a bit.
[03:10] <durt> zerboxx: i loaded both INFs just in case
[03:10] <zerboxx> durt: heh, good thinking
[03:10] <zerboxx> durt: and last question (hopefully) what is ESSID?
[03:11] <concept10> I guess I will reboot and find out
[03:11] <durt> zerboxx: that's the name of the network you are trying to connect to
[03:11] <zerboxx> durt: what if I'm not sure of the name?
[03:12] <durt> zerboxx: run "iwlist"
[03:12] <morbidi> zerboxx: iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:13] <durt> hehe - thats what i meant
[03:13] <nalioth> cafuego: you got a athlon64x2?
[03:13] <zerboxx> modbidi, durt: Ah ok.  Kinda difficult for me right now, I'm not anywhere near my wireless network, so I'll have to try again when I'm closer :)
[03:14] <durt> zerboxx: if your using a linksys router/switch, it might be called "linksys", assuming it hasnt been changed
[03:14] <ngd> how can I load the default Ubuntu GTK theme if I'm not booting into gnome but my own window manager instead?
[03:14] <zerboxx> durt: nope, I know it's changed, but if it were "linksys" when I type "iwlist wlan0 scan" it will show "linksys"?
[03:14] <durt> yup
[03:15] <zerboxx> durt: perfect, hopefully it'll work when I'm back home.  Thanks!
[03:15] <ngd> GTK themes anyone?
[03:15] <medamaybe> does anyone know if there's a limit to length of the workgroupname in ubuntu?
[03:15] <ngd> I've tried putting it in .gtkrc but doesn't seem to fly
[03:16] <damsko>  someone knows how to change xine splash image?
[03:16] <iiiears> http://gnome-look.org
[03:16] <iiiears> nvm
[03:17] <ngd> iiiears: any idea how to load a gtk theme if your not booting into Gnome?
[03:17] <iiiears> ngd - afraid i don't sorry..
[03:18] <ngd> iiiears: np
[03:18] <Mr-Petah> iiiears, the file is good, i play it in windows, but i can't mount this in my ubuntu
[03:18] <Dime> i have a problem with mplayer
[03:18] <durt> zerboxx: one more thing: dont forget to run "ndiswrapper -m" and youre set
[03:18] <Dime> its open and will not close
[03:18] <Dime> how do i close it or shut it down
[03:19] <zerboxx> durt: what does that do?
[03:19] <ce33na> Dime: use xkill
[03:19] <Mr-Petah> iiiears, in windows, i can mount the file whit a nero tool
[03:19] <durt> Dime: killall mplayer
[03:19] <vortek> Hello I'm a debian user by defualt .. BUt all I had was this ubuntu cd lying around.. Im impressed  :)
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> heh
[03:19] <durt> zerboxx makes ndiswrapper load at boot
[03:19] <vortek> So I installed it and its nice... A tad bit to user freindly though ;)
[03:19] <HrdwrBoB> yes, ubuntu is like debian only it Just Works and is Pretty
[03:19] <zerboxx> durt: I did that before I installed the other driver, do I have to do it again?
[03:20] <HrdwrBoB> vortek: HA! we can't be having that :P
[03:20] <ce33na> vortek: me too. I was impressed enough to make the switch
[03:20] <vortek> ;)
[03:20] <bigbootay> at work we use debian for servers and ubuntu and debian for desktops.
[03:20] <bigbootay> more and more ubunut on the desktop, though.
[03:20] <vortek> All though I mise kernel-package
[03:20] <vortek> bigbootay: yeah it does save time on confurations :)
[03:20] <HrdwrBoB> bigbootay: I've been using ubuntu for servers
[03:21] <durt> zerboxx, wont hurt
[03:21] <vortek> Whats the best way to make a custom kernel I need some speed and optimizations
[03:21] <bigbootay> where are the servers, though?
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> pretty much the same thing, but I only need to worry about a single distro
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> in the server room
[03:21] <nakata> i don't wanna work
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> vortek: no need
[03:21] <nakata> i just want to bang on de drum all day.
[03:21] <nakata> ...or my gf
[03:21] <zerboxx> I was wondering, if I run gnome and put a cd in, /media/cdrom0 is linked to the cd/dvd but if I'm running fvwm (without gnome) it doesn't work BUT I can still listen to cd's or play dvd's how can I get it to automatically link to /media/cdrom0?
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> vortek: if you REALLY must, you can use kernel-package the same as debian
[03:21] <nakata> but... i don't have one :(
[03:22] <zerboxx> nakata: drums or a gf? ;)
[03:22] <fanopnaic> Can some ubuntu guru tell me how the forwarding of ubuntu bug reports to debian, and vice versa, works in practise?
[03:22] <vortek> HrdwrBoB: sweet I do honestly notice speed differs :)
[03:22] <neighborlee> I  tried to open .deb. from website with gdeb..it said 'no action option was provided' ??
[03:22] <bigbootay> oops.  I'm in the wrong channel.  bloody carpetcrawlers switched tabs on me.
[03:22] <nakata> zerboxx, ...both!!! *breaks out into tears*
[03:22] <bigbootay> gotta run... :)
[03:22] <zerboxx> nakata: heh
[03:22] <vortek> HrdwrBoB: unless you recomend some other options for optimizations
[03:22] <nakata> i guess i'll just work instead.
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> vortek: there's not much you can do
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> you can add preload
[03:23] <HrdwrBoB> and ensure you're using dma etc
[03:23] <ce33na> dma is really helpfull on these cheap boxes
[03:23] <vortek> preload ?
[03:24] <durt> what command can be used to make a launcher that will launch something in the terminal?
[03:24] <morbidi> gnome-* 
[03:24] <morbidi> ?
[03:25] <glen_> where is samba in ubuntu?
[03:25] <g14> You need to install it
[03:25] <g14> Use synaptic
[03:25] <glen_> -_-
[03:26] <g14> Yeah it should be in main
[03:26] <glen_> what
[03:26] <flodine> has anyone updated there ubuntu to kernel 2.6.12
[03:26] <Tripp> Does anyone know how to install a game in ubuntu?
[03:26] <ce33na> durt: I cannot specifically answer that, but I do remember seeing a box saying "run in terminal"
[03:26] <bob2> glen_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:26] <g14> flodine: Yeah, its called breezy
[03:26] <nakata> Tripp, i've done it, which game?
[03:26] <bob2> Tripp: you need to be a lot more specific
[03:26] <nalioth> Tripp: in synaptic, there is a 'games' section
[03:26] <glen_> k thanks
[03:26] <bob2> g14: that's non-trivial in hoary; why do you want to do that?
[03:26] <nakata> flodine, sure i have.
[03:26] <bob2> er
[03:26] <bob2> flodine: ^
[03:26] <glen_> does vnc viewer come with ubuntu?
[03:27] <ce33na> yep
[03:27] <nakata> glen_, look in synaptic
[03:27] <g14> bob2: kernel reconfig / recompile isnt very hard. It is just time intensive
[03:27] <nakata> and cpu intensive
[03:27] <nakata> :<
[03:27] <g14> glen_: vino is a gnome vnc viewer
[03:27] <flodine> what bob2
[03:27] <vortek> HrdwrBoB: what is preeload
[03:27] <bob2> g14: I know
[03:27] <vortek> ProN00b: h0h0 sups bro
[03:27] <bob2> flodine: why do you want 2.6.12?
[03:27] <flodine> just wanted to know if it was possible
[03:28] <ce33na> glen_: applications > internet > terminal server client
[03:28] <vortek> so should Is use a kernel source that is in the package list or dl raw source ?
[03:28] <shefa> hi guys
[03:28] <flodine> can i just update the kernel with apt
[03:28] <Duvel> flodine, yes
[03:28] <ce33na> flodine: yep...
[03:28] <shefa> I'm new to Ubuntu so need a bit of help
[03:28] <flodine> whats the cammand
[03:29] <Duvel> hi dhefa what's the problem?
[03:29] <Duvel> shefa
[03:29] <cegha> Hey
[03:29] <HrdwrBoB> vortek: do some googling etc
[03:29] <shefa> When I lounche any of my musiv players, a can't read the id3 tags that a have in cyrillic on my mp3
[03:29] <ce33na> flodine: there is a package that automatically updates...I don't remember what it is called
[03:29] <damsko> how do i overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/
[03:29] <damsko> ?
[03:29] <zerboxx> Popping in a cd automatically mounts it, same with dvd's, but is there a way to see what /dev/foos are currently connected?
[03:29] <flodine> someone help
[03:29] <shefa> anybody that knows a resolution
[03:30] <ProN00b> hm, is it normal that i still have kernel 2.6.10-5-386 ?
[03:30] <cegha> Hey, i have used ubuntu, and was wondering, if it is suitable enough to run a beowulf cluster from?
[03:30] <fanopnaic> ProN00b: yes
[03:30] <ProN00b> ok
[03:30] <ce33na> flodine: if you don't understand what I just said..will you give me a minute to find the package name for you?
[03:30] <flodine> yes sir
[03:31] <Duvel> shefa, can you play the songs?
[03:31] <Drewfus> im trying to get drivers for the card i just got, im supposed to get drivers for linux IA32 right?
[03:31] <vortek> HrdwrBoB: can you atleast recomend a key word google for preload linux has to many options
[03:31] <g14> cegha: Why would you want to run beowulf from ubuntu? Why not use a distro designed for beowulf?
[03:31] <cegha> like?
[03:31] <mziegler> i'm trying to install Insight II by accelrys I type sudo /media/cdrom/install but get permission denied
[03:31] <damsko> how do i overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/  ? :/
[03:31] <shefa> HELP!!!
[03:31] <c0rrupt_> -.-
[03:32] <g14> cegha: Just a second
[03:32] <cegha> k thnx
[03:32] <Duvel> shefa, can you play the songs?
[03:32] <ce33na> flodine: install "linux-image-686" in place of the kernel that is selected. It will always use the latest stable kernel version
[03:33] <cegha> im just board and have 4 old pc's sitting around at the moment and want to put them to use
[03:33] <ce33na> assuming you are using a 686 style processor
[03:33] <flodine> mziegler yes
[03:33] <flodine> yes
[03:33] <flodine> i use 686
[03:33] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me if smb.conf is the only file in which I have to set my network workgroup?
[03:33] <shefa> Yes a can, everything works fine, it just that i can't read shit that is wqritten in cyrillic.
[03:33] <damsko> how do i overwrite the gaim directory located in /usr/share/pixmaps/
[03:33] <remyforbes777> anyone using Ubuntu 64 bit
[03:34] <g14> cegha: You might be better off using clusterKnoppix
[03:34] <cegha> medamaybe:yes thats all u need to edit, to make samba work on the network
[03:34] <Duvel> medamaybe, yes
[03:34] <cegha> k
[03:34] <cegha> thnx
[03:34] <cegha> i'll look into it
[03:34] <Duvel> damsko, why would you want that?
[03:34] <medamaybe> wel..apparently it doesn't work :)
[03:34] <flodine> ce33na ok then what
[03:34] <medamaybe> do you know if there's a limit to the length of a workgroup name in ubuntu?
[03:34] <ce33na> flodine: you are done
[03:34] <damsko> cauz this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22348&forummode=2&forumpage=1&forumexplevel=all
[03:35] <flodine> i have 686 already
[03:35] <g14> cegha: http://bofh.be/clusterknoppix/ I did the web design for this project when I first learned to make websites
[03:35] <cegha> hehe im already there
[03:35] <cegha> nice design BTW
[03:35] <ce33na> are you using the "linux-image-686" package?
[03:35] <avanspronsen> medamaybe: workgroup name for samba config?
[03:35] <flodine> yes
[03:35] <g14> cegha: thx
[03:35] <cegha> ya this will deintly be better, the network bootiing feature as im short a HD or 2
[03:35] <flodine> ce33na yes
[03:36] <ce33na> then it will update when a new stable kernel image is ready
[03:36] <medamaybe> no, the workgroup name in general
[03:36] <medamaybe> I mean...could it be too long for samba to achknowledge it?
[03:36] <g14> medamaybe: the workgroup name for windows networking should be in smb.conf I believe
[03:36] <cegha> ,edamabye: don't think so
[03:36] <flodine> ce33na are you saying it will give me 686 2.6.12 auto
[03:36] <medamaybe> I set the workgroup name in smb.conf
[03:36] <avanspronsen> medamaybe: I would keep it under 15 characters
[03:36] <damsko> so none knows? :(
[03:36] <cegha> workgroup name in samba config file has to match the one in windows
[03:36] <kevman> How can I change desktop resolutions?
[03:37] <medamaybe> but for some reason my ubuntu box is still in the mshome workgroup
[03:37] <shefa> Hey Duval, are you there
[03:37] <cegha> change your windows box to mshome
[03:37] <ce33na> flodine: when the ubuntu bunch has the bugs worked out of it, yes
[03:37] <medamaybe> lol
[03:37] <cegha> well i mean until u get it working properly
[03:37] <medamaybe> that's like using windows because you don't understand linux :)
[03:38] <medamaybe> but you're right...I'll try that
[03:38] <damsko> system/preferences/screen resolution
[03:38] <cegha> i had samba setup and it worked fine for me
[03:38] <cegha> it just kinda ran
[03:38] <Duvel> damsko, in terminal it goes like sudo cp -frd newfile /usr/share/pixmaps/
[03:38] <cegha> i didnt have to do a load of troubleshooting
[03:38] <damsko> thanks duvel
[03:38] <medamaybe> is the workgroup case sensitive?
[03:39] <flodine> ce33na what if i dont wanna wait till then for the kernel what do i do to update
[03:39] <chrismy> may i know which application is best for video and audio compressing in ubuntu?\
[03:39] <Duvel> shefa i guess you will need to install something to support cyrillic for your mp3 player
[03:39] <damsko> kevman, system/preferences/screen resolution
[03:39] <Xinex> ok, so basically I need to get this win pc to recognize my linux computer on our wlan and share files between the computers, how do I do this?
[03:40] <shefa> Yah, well, that's what I already assumed, but WHAT, and HOW
[03:40] <cegha> xinex: samba is wut u want
[03:40] <flodine> ce33na what kernel are you on
[03:40] <rendi> hi how to create wheather like this this is the capture
[03:40] <Xinex> ok
[03:40] <rendi> http://img17.echo.cx/my.php?image=pdk1wy.png
[03:40] <medamaybe> xinex, be careful though, samba is evil
[03:40] <rendi> see that
[03:40] <chrismy> may i know which application is best for video and audio compressing in ubuntu?\
[03:40] <cegha> xinex: you will need to edit the smb.conf file to get it to work
[03:40] <Xinex> -_-
[03:41] <ce33na> flodine: let me check
[03:41] <kevman> damsko, I'm using Kubuntu
[03:41] <ce33na> flodine: 2.6.10
[03:41] <mrd`> Hi.  Anyone familiar with prelink(1)?
[03:42] <Duvel> shefa, are the letters to small or just weird signs?
[03:42] <shefa> Weird signs-that's all-on some programs are just ? marks
[03:43] <ce33na> flodine: I was away from the computer for a second. Are you wanting to do kernel compiling?
[03:43] <karljp> shefa: welcome to multilinugual hell.
[03:43] <flodine> hell yeah
[03:44] <flodine> im not scared
[03:44] <cegha> whoever helped me is there anyway to make a bootable floppy for cluster knoppix?
[03:44] <flodine> heheh
[03:44] <flodine> what do i do
[03:44] <ce33na> do you have another machine?
[03:44] <zerboxx> How does ubuntu automount cd's and dvd's??
[03:44] <flodine> lol
[03:44] <flodine> why is it going to mess up this computer
[03:45] <ce33na> seriously...do you have more than one machine?
[03:45] <flodine> yes
[03:45] <dbee> Hi, I am having serious troubles installing j2re on Hoary Hedgehog. The Unofficial guides' apt-get method gives me a libc error ... wrong libc library. I've tried pointing it to another repository www.seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ but it's not available. Now the wiki method of installing fakeroot et al throws up a  'free(): invalid pointer' error ... I'm beginning to think that maybe trying to install Ubuntu isn't such a good idea afterall ... pls help !
[03:45] <ce33na> count on it messing up a machine
[03:45] <mrd`> zerboxx: There's some automounter code, but I'm not that familiar with it.  (You probably already knew that much though.)
[03:45] <ce33na> for the first few tries
[03:45] <flodine> then why is there a new kernel
[03:45] <mrd`> ce33na: Unless you uninstall your old kernel, it shouldn't make the machine unusable.
[03:45] <zerboxx> mrd`: Kinda, I'm just wondering what that automounter code is, and where it is etc :)
[03:46] <airmikey> is there really a differenc if i update kernel
[03:46] <iiiears> dbee - i have j2re installed and never saw that on an ubuntu install before
[03:47] <Duvel> zerboxx, it is in /etc/fstab
[03:47] <cegha> whoever helped me is there anyway to make a bootable floppy for cluster knoppix?
[03:47] <g14> zerboxx: The automounting for gnome?
[03:47] <mrd`> aatim: If you use java-package, it's not that difficult to ubuntu-ize one of the jre's from java.sun.com.
[03:47] <g14> cegha: I dont know
[03:47] <cegha> =/
[03:47] <ce33na> flodine: let me get this out of the way. If I was going to play with kernel compiling again, I would set up a slackware machine. Its a much cleaner system to learn on. Having that said; mrd is correct. You can bring it back if you do not remove the old kernel. Have a rescue disk handy before you start.
[03:47] <zerboxx> g14: Yeah, just wondering what it is, where it is, etc
[03:47] <durt> dbee: just download the deb from seveas. .... ....
[03:47] <mrd`> Erm.
[03:48] <mrd`> dbee: If you use java-package, it's not that difficult to ubuntu-ize one of the jre's from java.sun.com.
[03:48] <iiiears> dbee - dpkg -i j2re   works  - could it be a bad package corrupted or something?
[03:48] <nalioth> brb, changing puters
[03:48] <flodine> ce33na does it make a diffrence on kernels
[03:48] <ce33na> flodine: it makes it easier
[03:49] <g14> zerboxx: It is a series of things under the auspies of "Project Utopia" by robert love the genius kernel hacker
[03:49] <dbee> durt: so the seavas deb is definitely up then ?? I was trying last night and I was getting a TCP connection error
[03:49] <ce33na> flodine: there are numerous tutorials on the web, that will help you start kernel hacking
[03:49] <bored2k> what file contains gtk+-2.0 ?
[03:49] <g14> zerboxx: Some hotplug enhancements to the 2.6 kernel, HAL, Dbus, and gnome-volume-manager are all parts of project utopia
[03:49] <glen_> which download of samba should I get?
[03:49] <zerboxx> g14: Ah, ok, thanks gotta run, brb
[03:49] <shefa> thanks, but I need a resolution to the problem. Can i set somewhere a support for non-unicode programms
[03:49] <flodine> ce33na are you sure ubuntu will auto update for you when the kernels ready or just going to upgrade 2.6.10-5
[03:50] <flodine> to 2.6.10-8
[03:50] <ce33na> yep...mine has upgraded multiple times
[03:50] <dbee> mrd: so I should just download a java package straight from sun then do you think ???
[03:50] <Luna-Tick> Does anyone here know anything about gstreamer?
[03:50] <fanopnaic> Luna-Tick: like what?
[03:50] <mrd`> dbee: Yeah, and then install ``java-package'' from synaptic.
[03:50] <flodine> ce33na yeah but your still on 2.6.10
[03:50] <Luna-Tick> There are a lot of things that their site says that it isn't, but not what it really is
[03:50] <glen_> which download of samba should I get?
[03:50] <g14> gstreamer 0.9 wont be stable enough for breezy :(
[03:50] <Luna-Tick> :(
[03:51] <durt> dbee: i got it from there last night actually, but you can try this if that doesnt work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[03:51] <mrd`> dbee: Well, install java-package and read the documentation.  It'll tell you what to do.  (It's pretty simple.)
[03:51] <ce33na> flodine: what is the latest kernel available
[03:51] <flodine> ce33na is it going to update to 2.6.12 when ready
[03:51] <g14> ce33na: Check kernel.org for yourself
[03:51] <mrd`> g14: Why do you say that?
[03:51] <mrd`> (The gstreamer 0.9 thing.)
[03:51] <fanopnaic> Luna-Tick: As far as I understand it, it's similar to DirectShow. <quote />
[03:52] <ce33na> g14: spttz
[03:52] <g14> mrd`: Because I follow gstreamer development in the company that sponsors it, fluendo. It wont be ready
[03:52] <mrd`> Hm.
[03:52] <flodine> ce33na never seen a linux upgrade to a new kernel just to the sameone for security
[03:52] <dbee> mrd: I've tried the wiki, and when I try to install fakeroot, java-package, java-common, it gives me a free() pointer error
[03:52] <ce33na> flodine: the guys who maintain the kernel will decide which version is next
[03:52] <Decker> sup all
[03:52] <flodine> yes breezy
[03:52] <mrd`> Ah, hm, I still have gstreamer0.8 installed too... I'd have sworn 0.9 was installed...
[03:52] <flodine> is next
[03:53] <flodine> so why give you a kernel upgrade
[03:53] <flodine> use breezy
[03:53] <morbidi> btw, I have a repo that has been disabled, how do I know wich is wich ?
[03:53] <mrd`> flodine: Huh?
[03:53] <glen_> which download of samba should I get for ubuntu?
[03:53] <mrd`> dbee: Odd.
[03:54] <Decker> anyone have any luck getting their centrino to work wirelessly?
[03:54] <g14> glen_ Use synaptic and install all of the samba packages. It shouldnt hurt anything
[03:54] <ce33na> flodine: read the package description for linux-image-686
[03:54] <g14> glen_ If you read the descriptions, it will tell you which you need to share files with windows systems
[03:54] <vortek> ehllo
[03:54] <airmikey> Decker: yes
[03:54] <iiiears> dbee - j2re from sun.com is a headache - find a j2re.deb  much simpler greater chancew of success over the dozen step process of th official sun package.
[03:54] <vortek> Can any one tell me how to get back my root acount in ubuntu  google is n't helping much
[03:55] <Decker> airmikey, what am I doing wrong? :D
[03:55] <g14> sudo passwd root
[03:55] <Duvel> shefa, it's caused by the way id3 tags and mp3 files work... setting those id3tags in CAPITALS should make them readable, only small letters are affected.
[03:55] <Decker> i active it
[03:55] <mrd`> iiiears: You just convert it to a .deb and install it.  It's pretty painless.
[03:55] <Decker> setup the wep key
[03:55] <Decker> but nothing :S
[03:55] <ch107783> Has there been any fixes for the slow smb transfers?
[03:55] <g14> vortek: sudo passwd root
[03:55] <airmikey> u put in the key
[03:55] <ch107783> Oops Hello everyone!
[03:55] <vortek> thanxs
[03:55] <rini> hi
[03:56] <ch107783> Has anyone had any success in speeding up the SMB transfers?
[03:56] <Duvel> !botsnack
[03:56] <ubotu> :)
[03:56] <ch107783> It's better when you mount the share but still way slow
[03:57] <flodine> ce33na give me a link to that
[03:57] <firez> Can anyone help me with my JDK installation, I get this message when I try to run a class after compile it from a java file:
[03:57] <firez> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: myfirstprog
[03:57] <dbee> iiiears: cool, I'll try seveas' repositories again and I'll see if I can download from there ...
[03:57] <shefa> Any idea how can i change them all at once, instead going one by one, cause i have over a 1000 files
[03:58] <firez> I followed the wiki guide
[03:58] <ce33na> flodine: open synaptic and use the search function
[03:58] <iiiears> dbee - i have the package if you like.
[03:58] <ce33na> search for "linux" and you will find it
[03:59] <durt> firez: maker sure the class name is the same as the java file name
[03:59] <nalioth> shefa: can you say "recursive"?
[03:59] <firez> durt: uh yeah is different, i will fix that
[04:00] <Duvel> shefa, there are more then one progs able to do that, try sudo apt-get install cantus3
[04:01] <dbee> iiiears: thanks, it looks like my frozen apt-get program has a lock on synaptics memory ... I'm locked out of synaptic ... I'm gonna do a reboot ... oh, wait a sec ... cool thanks iiears
[04:01] <shefa> thanks a million guys. I'l give a shot.
[04:01] <Duvel> shefa, yw
[04:01] <flodine> ce33na i like ubuntu 5.04 i dont want breezy so will i be able to stay here and just keep updating my kernel
[04:02] <glen_> so are there binaries for samba for ubuntu?
[04:02] <firez> Durt: thanks I get the hello world! in the terminal, but is weird that the java compiler changes the name of the class from the original java file, is it normal?
[04:02] <bob2> glen_: of course, I told you how to install it, earlier
[04:02] <ce33na> flodine: yes
[04:03] <shefa> Take care now. I'll see you around
[04:03] <ian> hello pp..
[04:03] <ce33na> I do not use breezy. I let the ubuntu kernel mainainers worry abou the kernel upgrades and I use the extra package repositories for my applications
[04:03] <dell500> how do i print out 4 slides in open office on one page?
[04:04] <ian> where can i configure..so that there will be an trash, my computer..icons in my desktop..
[04:04] <bob2> ian: in gconf
[04:04] <bob2> you'll have to find it yourself, tho
[04:04] <durt> firez: i have no more java experience than you, so i dont know :)
[04:04] <Decker> so yeah
[04:04] <ian> bob2: what do you mean?
[04:04] <dabaR> hi
[04:04] <ch107783> firez: why don't you use the add-on cd?
[04:04] <Decker> I still can't get my wireless network card running :'(
[04:05] <firez> durt: thanks anyway, at least I know that the JDK installation worked
[04:05] <Decker> anyone know how to tell to see if the WEP key isn't being accepted?
[04:05] <bob2> ian: gconf-editor
[04:05] <firez> ch1077: is there an addon cd?
[04:05] <bob2> Decker: disable WEP on the AP and see if it works
[04:05] <firez> lol
[04:05] <ch107783> Decker: what kind of wireless card?
[04:06] <Decker> it's onboard
[04:06] <Decker> centrino
[04:06] <ch107783> Firez: It's unofficial, but you can check it out at www.mrbass.org
[04:06] <Jsl> Help....
[04:06] <Decker> part of my notebook :D
[04:06] <Xinex> how do I get ubuntu to connect to this pc via VNC?
[04:06] <Xinex> over our lan
[04:06] <Decker> bob2, it works in windows :S
[04:06] <firez> ch107783: thanks, I will check that
[04:06] <Jsl> Im installed vhcs on my pc and need to uninstall everything the script installed my pc is messed up...
[04:07] <Jsl> I need help bad.
[04:07] <bob2> reinstall
[04:07] <ch107783> Decker: that doesn't help much you can probably due an lspci to findout atleast the chipset
[04:07] <bob2> and don't use such broken crap
[04:07] <Duvel> Xinex, install vnc, edit /etc/vnc.conf and start vncserver
[04:07] <Xinex> edit it to what?
[04:07] <flodine> anyone get pekwm installed on ubuntu
[04:07] <ch107783> Firez: np, it's easy to get multimedia and Java installed using that
[04:07] <bob2> Jsl: or explain what "messed up" means, and tell us step by step how you broke your computer
[04:07] <iiiears> !vnc
[04:07] <ubotu> vnc is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[04:07] <ian> bob2: thanks
[04:07] <ce33na> Xinex: have you tried the vnc client that is included with ubuntu?
[04:07] <Jsl> well localhost is all messed up...
[04:08] <Duvel> or remove it completely with sudo apt-get remove packagename --purge
[04:08] <Xinex> I'm trying it, ce33na
[04:08] <ch107783> Make sure you check for updates to the unofficial CD though
[04:08] <Jsl> Im locked out of vhcs
[04:08] <Jsl> and ect.
[04:08] <oceandead> in soviet russia, computer breaks you!
[04:08] <Xinex> heh
[04:08] <synd> trying to boot the live cd to a toshibal laptop
[04:08] <dell500> nm, figured it out
[04:08] <synd> toshiba**
[04:08] <Xinex> what's the equivalent of ipconfig in linux?
[04:08] <Duvel> Xinex, ifconfig
[04:09] <synd> and it loads fine, but then it just sits at a black screen
[04:09] <cfaun> Xinex: what are you trying to do?
[04:09] <Jsl> Bob2 >>I used the script from here  http://vhcs.net/new/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2249&forum=2
[04:09] <codecaine> can someone in here running ubuntu run this command /exec df -h
[04:09] <bob2> yeah, running random scripts from web forums as root is a hot idea
[04:09] <bob2> Xinex: "ip"
[04:09] <codecaine> i'm wondering what none is for on /dev
[04:09] <Jsl> I need to uninstall all it installed.....
[04:09] <Jsl> I had already used it before
[04:09] <Jsl> Just lost it...
[04:09] <codecaine> bob2, whats the none filesystem mounted on /dev all about?
[04:09] <bob2> codecaine: it' not a real filesystem
[04:09] <Jsl> Fount it again
[04:10] <codecaine> back to that virtual file system stuff eh bob2?
[04:10] <bob2> no
[04:10] <bob2> it's tmpfs
[04:10] <bob2> aka a real filesystem with no backing store
[04:10] <Xinex> cfaun, I'm trying to get vnc to work so I don't have to walk up and down two flights of stairs a million times
[04:10] <durt> synd: dont know about the live cd, but the hoary install worked fine on my toshiba
[04:10] <airmikey> Decker: u get it
[04:10] <synd> durt: its a toshiba satellite, p4 2.8
[04:11] <nalioth> synd: are you in here causing trouble?
[04:11] <synd> nalioth: yes
[04:11] <cfaun> Ugg...the security team still hasn't added mozilla 1.7.11
[04:11] <nalioth> synd: have mercy! can't take you nowhere!
[04:11] <Jsl> *needs help*
[04:11] <synd> nalioth: i know
[04:11] <bob2> Jsl: no one can help you unless you actually help yourself
[04:11] <codecaine> bob2, how come it uses none instead of tmpfs like its used on /dev/shm
[04:11] <iiiears> synd - Do you think it is just the display that needs to be configured? - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    will ask you questions to help set up the display.
[04:11] <bob2> Jsl: start by answering my question above
[04:11] <synd> iiiears: no idea.
[04:11] <Jsl> What question...
[04:11] <ch107783> Xinex: apt-get install xvnc4viewer
[04:11] <ksmurf> How in the ehck do u get into the cups server.  It keeps asking for an administrator password and username but I have never configured one.
[04:12] <bob2> 12:07:35 @         bob2 | Jsl: or explain what "messed up" means, and tell us step by step how you broke your computer
[04:12] <bob2> Jsl: "undo what that script did" is not a useful statement of your aim
[04:12] <Luna-Tick> Anyone know if there is a libdvdcss gstreamer plugin anywhere?
[04:12] <bob2> Jsl: if that's what you want to do, you need to go talk to whoever wrote the script
[04:12] <iiiears> synd - were there any screen messages that hinted at what was wrong?
[04:12] <bob2> ksmurf: system -> administration -> printers
[04:12] <Jsl> Messed up means i need to unstall vhcs because i cant get into it (It locked me out)
[04:13] <bob2> Jsl: so, go talk to the vhcs people
[04:13] <Jsl> And i want to install everything from scratch to be safe
[04:13] <nomasteryoda|w> finally got qemu to install on my main laptop with kqemu too...
[04:13] <ch107783> Xinex then after it installs type vncviewer on one and vncserver on the other
[04:13] <ksmurf> bob2 can u not also get in from the browser.... 127.0.0.1:631?
[04:13] <nomasteryoda|w> but alas, it is in the bz install and I'm sure it will be toast in a day or 3
[04:13] <Jsl> bob2: Talk to the vhcs people....
[04:13] <bob2> ian: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqsection_view?section=Using%20Ubuntu
[04:14] <bob2> Jsl: they broke your system, you need to get them to help you unbreak it
[04:14] <bob2> ksmurf: you cannot
[04:14] <Duvel> Jsl, remove it completely with sudo apt-get remove packagename --purge
[04:14] <ksmurf> bob2 I have the hpijs configured and have more options on the web interface
[04:14] <ch107783> Xinex: You also have to go to Remote Desktop and Allow others to view and control the desktop that you want to control
[04:14] <bob2> Duvel: it's not a package
[04:14] <ksmurf> bob2  S%^$ thanks
[04:14] <synd> iiiears: it got past the boot screen.. and started to load the kernel.. but it was going by to fast for me to catch anything.
[04:15] <ch107783> Xinex: ?
[04:15] <Drewfus> would anyone be able to help me get my graphics drivers working?
[04:15] <bob2> Jsl: in general, if you use software from outside ubuntu, you'll need to talk to whoever wrote it, not us
[04:15] <iiiears> synd - don't really have enough information yet. give this a try CTRL+ALT+F2   should give you a terminal - going to assume it is a problem with the display not being configured properly.
[04:15] <ch107783> Drewfus: ATI or Nvidia?
[04:16] <Duvel> synd, you can read it with dmesg
[04:16] <bob2> Drewfus: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:16] <Drewfus> nvidia
[04:16] <ch107783> Drewfus: ubuntu's way or nvidia's
[04:16] <Drewfus> whichever works better?
[04:17] <ce33na> iiiears: less /var/log/syslog
[04:17] <bob2> Drewfus: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:17] <Drewfus> or maybe i should choose whichever is easier
[04:17] <Drewfus> im checking that now
[04:17] <Xinex> ch107783, working on it
[04:17] <Xinex> apt didn't work
[04:17] <iiiears> ce33na an excellent idea. -
[04:17] <ch107783> I have had better luck with nvidia's way
[04:17] <nooneelse> hi all
[04:17] <Drewfus> hows that
[04:18] <nooneelse> i'm installing some programs by apt-get
[04:18] <Drewfus> their read me didnt help me too much
[04:18] <ch107783> Xinex: have you added any repostories to /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:18] <Drewfus> im having problems with the kernel part of the install
[04:18] <nooneelse> but the icons arent appearing in applications menu
[04:18] <durt> Drewfus: just apt-get nvidia-glx
[04:18] <volvoguy> quick question. ATI Radeon 7500 (rv200). the DRI project website says it's supported by their driver. is that what Ubuntu uses by default for "ati" in xorg.conf, or do i need to install a package and use "radeon"?
[04:18] <nalioth> nooneelse: they may appear after you log out and log back in
[04:18] <Drewfus> how do i do that
[04:18] <glen_> no ch107783
[04:18] <ch107783> glen what?
[04:19] <Drewfus> ive heard about aptget but i dont understand it
[04:19] <nooneelse> nalioth, no I mean... it appears
[04:19] <nooneelse> nalioth, but the ICON IMAGE not appears
[04:19] <nooneelse> just the icon without the image icon
[04:19] <Duvel> !apt-get
[04:19] <ubotu> I heard apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[04:19] <ch107783> glen_: Whats wrong?
[04:19] <aatim> is there an sqlrelay-java for ubuntu?
[04:19] <ch107783> it's built in
[04:19] <glen_> ch107783, Im xinex
[04:19] <nalioth> nooneelse: yes i know what you mean, the app appears in the menu, but not its specific icon
[04:19] <ch107783> OH
[04:19] <nalioth> nooneelse: it will probably appear after a log out and log in
[04:19] <cafuego> aatim: considering the java license, i doubt it.
[04:19] <cafuego> !find sqlrelay
[04:19] <ian> how do i make a batch file like in windows.. ".bat" in ubuntu?
[04:19] <nooneelse> nalioth, ywap looks like a "console icon"
[04:20] <nooneelse> "terminal icon"
[04:20] <nalioth> nooneelse: log out and log in and see
[04:20] <nooneelse> nalioth, lemme see
[04:20] <aatim> is there any site where i can find how to install one?
[04:20] <Drewfus> whats this ch107783
[04:20] <bob2> volvoguy: doesn't matter, they're the same in this case
[04:20] <adiabatic> ian: The closest equivalent is writing a script in bash, the usual shell
[04:20] <ce33na> ian: we use shell scripts
[04:20] <ch107783> I just asked for direct chat wo that I can explain to you guys what to do
[04:20] <codecaine> bob2, you have a quick link explaining tmpfs and none using dev?
[04:20] <hardw1re> cafuego smells :P
[04:21] <ian> ok.. what would be the extension of a shell scripts?
[04:21] <Duvel> ian, nothing :)
[04:21] <ce33na> .sh
[04:21] <adiabatic> ian: either no extension or maybe .sh
[04:21] <bob2> codecaine: er, none is in the filesystem column, it just means it isn't being mounted from a device
[04:21] <cafuego> hardw1re: don't bother, you're still on ignore
[04:21] <Drewfus> i clicked accept but nothing is happening
[04:21] <ch107783> ok
[04:21] <nooneelse> nalioth, well just one worked
[04:21] <hardw1re> :o
[04:21] <glen_> same
[04:21] <bob2> codecaine: tmpfs presumably has docs in the kernel Documentation dir
[04:21] <ian> then how would we execute a shell script?
[04:21] <mae> is anyone else having issues with sound-juicier and rhythmbox crashing on colony-3 i have all the latest updates
[04:21] <hardw1re> oh well
[04:21] <Duvel> ian, . script
[04:21] <nooneelse> nalioth, the AMSN icon still broken
[04:21] <bob2> ian: sh ./blah.sh
[04:21] <nalioth> nooneelse: sometimes no actual icons are available for specific programs
[04:21] <hardw1re> sh name
[04:21] <volvoguy> bob2, so if X works I'm all set? whatever degree of 3D acceleration is supported on this card is already working? i can't seem to run any of the glxgears or glxinfo things.
[04:21] <nooneelse> nalioth,  hmm ok
[04:21] <ian> ok thanks a lot!
[04:22] <nalioth> nooneelse: and some different icon themes have more icons than others
[04:22] <bob2> Duvel: that sources it, which is different to running it
[04:22] <codecaine> bob2, i understand none is not a FS, but i just want to know the reason and functionality behind the /dev because i did not mount it
[04:22] <bob2> mae: please file a bug if no one else has
[04:22] <adiabatic> ian: set the executable bit and give it a shebang line OR do `bash foo.sh`
[04:22] <nooneelse> nalioth, do u know the name of lib to play divx, mpeg1/2 and this kind of movies ?
[04:22] <nalioth> nooneelse: try the bluecurve theme (search how to do it in the wiki)
[04:22] <bob2> codecaine: udev mounted it; udev gets hotplug events from the kernel, and then creates device nodes in /dev for them
[04:22] <nalioth> nooneelse: you also need see restricted formats in the wiki
[04:22] <bob2> some people like / to be ro, so /dev is a tmpfs that udev can write to
[04:22] <cafuego> codecaine: it's required (at a minumum) for IPC shared mem (SYSV inter-process communication)
[04:23] <[Spooky] > im so tired of this... we use DHCP in windows i can get access to the internet but not in Ubuntu... dosent ubuntu understand like 192.168.1.x ?
[04:23] <hardw1re> :( this kernel compile is taking so long, andi wann goto bed :(
[04:23] <cafuego> codecaine: previously it was inaccessible, in the kernel, it's just mapped to something on disk now.
[04:23] <bob2> volvoguy: it should get setup automatically, but I doubt the choice of driver is the problem
[04:23] <adiabatic> Spooky: Ubuntu does DHCP fine here....
[04:23] <adiabatic> (as a client)
[04:23] <nooneelse> nalioth, do u know the name of lib to play divx, mpeg1/2 and this kind of movies ?
[04:23] <bob2> [Spooky] : you're being too vague to be helped
[04:23] <hardw1re> im using dhcp here too
[04:23] <bob2> [Spooky] : DHCP works fine for millions of people, are you perhaps refering to a wireless network?
[04:23] <[Spooky] > adiabatic yes at my home too, but not here...
[04:23] <nalioth> nooneelse: check your private messages
[04:23] <Concord_Dawn> How can I change my Gnome splashscreen?
[04:23] <bob2> nooneelse: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:23] <nooneelse> nalioth,  oops ok
[04:24] <mae> Spooky type in ifconfig and tell me in #flood what you get
[04:24] <volvoguy> bob2, ok. thanks. i'll just assume this card can't be 3d accelerated in linux. (which i thought was the case until I checked the DRI website) .
[04:24] <Duvel> [Spooky] , what does cat /etc/network/interfaces say?
[04:24] <Concord_Dawn> !splash
[04:24] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I give up, what is it?
[04:24] <Concord_Dawn> !splashscreen
[04:24] <ubotu> splashscreen is, like, to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[04:24] <dabaR> hi again.
[04:24] <hardw1re> thats a point, glxgears works fine, but under point2play the 3D acclerated test fails
[04:25] <cafuego> Concord_Dawn: Has that repalced gdmconfig, has it?
[04:25] <bob2> hardw1re: #cedega
[04:25] <mae> hardwire, what type of card do you have
[04:25] <dbee> This connection string should get me through to Seveas' repositories, correct ??  'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu universe'
[04:25] <hardw1re> yeah im in there :P
[04:25] <bob2> volvoguy: mmm, I'd be surprised
[04:25] <hardw1re> nvidia 6800GT
[04:25] <durt> !gsynaptics
[04:25] <ubotu> durt: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:25] <hardw1re> gymnastics?
[04:26] <nalioth> dbee: the address is on seveas site
[04:26] <[Spooky] > bob2 well the short story is... i have re-installed ubuntu and it didnt do anything when testing the apt-get repositories it took like 20 minutes for each one... when booting i get fail in setting the clock with NTP and i guess its not gonna download any new packages...
[04:26] <bob2> [Spooky] : that sounds a lot more like a dud cable
[04:26] <bob2> or something similar, especially if it worked before you reinstalled
[04:27] <hardw1re> bob2: how do i build a .deb package?
[04:27] <ruben> Hola... alguien me podria ayudar.. instale Ubuntu en mi celeron de 1.7 Ghz pero anda un poco lento. Que podra hacer?
[04:27] <dbee> nalioth: cool, I'm just wondering whether the bits at the end might be messing it up  ... namely 'ubuntu universe'
[04:27] <[Spooky] > bob2 not in linux, just works in windows... (with the same cable)
[04:27] <cafuego> Concord_Dawn: gtweakui-session, specifically
[04:27] <bob2> hardw1re: of what?
[04:27] <bob2> !+spanish
[04:27] <ubotu> No idea, bob2
[04:27] <hardw1re> the latest nvidia driver files
[04:27] <cafuego> !es
[04:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:27] <hardw1re> the 7676
[04:27] <bob2> ah
[04:27] <ruben> OK!
[04:27] <bob2> hardw1re: don't bother
[04:27] <codecaine> anyone wanting to know about tmpfs briefly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TMPFS
[04:27] <cafuego> bob2: !+ functionality is disabled
[04:28] <durt> !fr
[04:28] <bob2> ah
[04:28] <ubotu> from memory, fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:28] <[Spooky] > bob2 can i force a ip/dns/gateway ?
[04:28] <bob2> [Spooky] : edit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:28] <cafuego> (upon request from um, amaranth i think)
[04:28] <Duvel> [Spooky] , the same cable? did you release the ip address on the win machine before you plugged the cable in the linux machine?
[04:28] <nooneelse> Can I use debian packages into ubuntu ?
[04:28] <dbee> nalioth: I seem to be getting a connection timed out when trying to connect ... I guess it's probably a network error then ... I have a fresh install of ubuntu and no firewall (that I know of)
[04:28] <bob2> nooneelse: depends; usually not.
[04:29] <hardw1re> bob2: is there a reason why i shouldnt use 7676, or do u mean i should just install it as is from the nvidia site?
[04:29] <nooneelse> bob2, why? compatibility ?
[04:29] <kairu0> when i run oowriter i get "oowriter no suitable windowing system found, exiting."
[04:29] <kairu0>  anyone seen that before?
[04:29] <nalioth> dbee: hmmm
[04:29] <bob2> hardw1re: do you have an actual reason to want that version?
[04:29] <bob2> nooneelse: differing dependencies
[04:29] <[Spooky] > Duvel used dual... now i just use ubuntu on the machine
[04:29] <nooneelse> bob2,  hmm
[04:29] <bob2> nooneelse: compiling source packages is generally ok
[04:29] <Duvel> [Spooky] , what does cat /etc/network/interfaces say?
[04:29] <dbee> nalioth: I'll try pinging him ...
[04:29] <hardw1re> well, from what i can tell the ones on the apt-get are only 71.xx... which is rather out-dated from the 76.xx range
[04:29] <bob2> as long as you tweak the version so it gets replaced by real ubuntu packages
[04:30] <adiabatic> Rhythmbox is acting funky for me in that the import function seems to be hung on a null.ogg; should I head on over to irc.gnome.org and ask there, or should I wait here for bug reporting?
[04:30] <bob2> hardw1re: no, do you have an actual reason?
[04:30] <bob2> "OMG THEY R OLD" is not a reason
[04:30] <iiiears> Duvel - do you think installing a gui firewall "Firestarter" would simplify things or just add more fud
[04:30] <hardw1re> to test for performance improvement
[04:30] <bob2> then I wouldn't bother
[04:30] <nox_> is there a way to install a minimal ubuntu, such as debian netinst, so i can choose what packages i want to install ?
[04:30] <[Spooky] > Duvel wait im not done with the install yet..
[04:30] <bob2> nox_: sure, read the installer options
[04:30] <dabaR> HEY, i USED SEVEAS' WIN_MAC PERL SCRIPT, AND sorry about the caps...the ntfs partition mounted, and it hasroot as owner, disallowing me to read files in it. only owner has rx permissions. What can I do?
[04:31] <bob2> [Spooky] : you're still installing?  didn't dhcp time out and ask you to configure it manually?
[04:31] <dabaR> The permissions can not be changed by chmod.
[04:31] <[Spooky] > bob2 btw i used the reiserfs its ok right?
[04:31] <nox_> bob2, is it inside the ubuntu cd or in ubuntuwiki ?
[04:31] <nalioth> dbee: the site appears to be down atm
[04:31] <cafuego> dabaR: edit the fstab entry and add 'uid=1000' in the options section (or whatever YOUR uid is)
[04:31] <[Spooky] > bob2 nope
[04:31] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: pass uid=1000,gid=1000 to teh mount
[04:31] <Duvel> iiiears, it wouldnt hurt, and firestarter is not that hard
[04:31] <bob2> [Spooky] : I wouldn't use reiser
[04:32] <cafuego> [Spooky] : reiserfs is not the optimal choice, no.
[04:32] <nalioth> iiiears: read this, but firewalls are not required for home/personal use imho  http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[04:32] <bob2> nox_: cd
[04:32] <belal122> is there a ICEWM version of ubuntu?
[04:32] <nox_> bob2, thanx! :)
[04:32] <dabaR> kk, how do I remount them?
[04:32] <nalioth> belal122: if you install icewm
[04:32] <EasterSunshine> belal122: no, but icewm is in the repos, just install it
[04:32] <cafuego> belal122: No, but you can install icewm ON Ubuntu
[04:32] <[Spooky] > hehe ok, ext3 is better then ?
[04:32] <cafuego> [Spooky] : yes
[04:32] <Duvel> [Spooky] , or reiserfs
[04:32] <iiiears> nalioth true. - just a bit easier for new users to manipulate interfaces with a gui.
[04:32] <dbee> iiiears: thanks for the download, only for some reason it couldn't connect ... can we try again ??? cheers
[04:33] <belal122> well, i meant is there a customised version of it with icewm as the default desktop.
[04:33] <Xorlev> belal122: It isn't hard to pop open Synaptic and install IceWM.
[04:33] <iiiears> dbee - yes
[04:33] <harlan_> I have a usb kvm switch and when I jump to the other PC the ubuntu freezes ... any way to avoid that?
[04:33] <dbee> nalioth: ya, it's down at the moment ... but yesterday I could point the web broswer at it but I still couldn't get the repositoires
[04:34] <belal122> i know xorlev, it's nto that difficult to install it via synaptic.  but a custom icewm distro would be better suited for low end systems.
[04:34] <EasterSunshine> is it against the rfc to have korean sylables in folders/files name on a http server?
[04:34] <castingpearls> is anyone using a soundblaster 24-bit live sound card w/ ubuntu??
[04:34] <Duvel> bob2, why not use reiser?
[04:34] <nalioth> dbee: when it comes back up, compare the string you are using to the one on the site
[04:34] <belal122> i heard something about a xfce version of ubuntu, but no one seems to be interested in icewm
[04:34] <dabaR> how do I reload my /etc/fstab?
[04:34] <dabaR> mount -a?
[04:34] <Xorlev> belal122: I'd much rather the [K] Ubuntu developers focus on improving Ubuntu
[04:34] <ce33na> castingpearls: yes...but it is my son's machine
[04:34] <Xorlev> dabaR: mount -a
[04:34] <bob2> Duvel: the recovery tools are terrible
[04:34] <nalioth> belal122: you may make an icewm version, if you like
[04:34] <castingpearls> ce33na: how did you configure it?
[04:35] <dbee> nalioth: cool, I'm just wondering though ... how important are the distro and package strings ... is 'ubuntu universe' ok ???
[04:35] <belal122> i agree improving the base is and should be the first focus.
[04:35] <ce33na> castingpearls: to be honest...I don't remember.
[04:35] <iiiears> dbee - something isn't configured. :s
[04:35] <dakota> hey i need some help with my screen resolution
[04:35] <nooneelse> no doubt... xine is much better than gsstreamer
[04:35] <nalioth> dbee: they tell apt where to look for the stuff
[04:35] <iiiears> dbee - let me restart xchat
[04:35] <castingpearls> ce33na: i'm having the same problem, i HAD it working, but then i did a fresk reinstall and i can't remember what i did
[04:35] <belal122> well nalioth, is it difficult to remaster ? i mean i am not that well established in linux but i can work with it
[04:35] <dakota> i cant get it to change out of 640 by 480
[04:35] <nalioth> dbee: so it makes a difference if you want the string to do anything for you
[04:35] <EasterSunshine> belal122: we can't have a different version of ubuntu for every big wm or desktop environment, it would get out of hand
[04:36] <DekaPink> If I were to copy the fonts from my Windows XP fonts folder to the fonts directory in my Ubuntu... would that... work? :3
[04:36] <EasterSunshine> DekaPink: worked for me
[04:36] <nalioth> belal122: there are numerous articles on remastering live/install linux cds
[04:36] <nooneelse> dakota, check directly into X config file
[04:36] <nooneelse> and set it in there
[04:36] <DekaPink> EasterSunshine: Ginchy. Thanks. :)
[04:36] <dbee> iiiears: sorry, this is my second time using irc, I've just accpeted there ... the status reads connect but nothing's happening
[04:36] <belal122> nalioth, how about remastering ubuntu?
[04:36] <dakota> how.... im kind of a noob
[04:37] <iiiears> dbee - not a vteran user here either. sorry. - one last try.
[04:37] <EasterSunshine> DekaPink: i don't think i directly copied, i think i did some install thingy from a control panel type-thingie osmewhere
[04:37] <nalioth> belal122: http://www.google.com/search?q=remastering+ubuntu+install+cd&ie=UTF8
[04:37] <EasterSunshine> DekaPink: i just threw in a lot of fonts directly copied from my windows font dir
[04:37] <belal122> thanks nalioth
[04:37] <dbee> nalioth: I reckon the error is a TCP one, but if I do connect ... what should I put for distro and package ??
[04:38] <[Spooky] > well i dont have any internet on the linux box, and cat /etc/network/interfaces gave me a bunch... the last wrote: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:38] <dakota> how to i set my screen resolution in the x config file
[04:38] <dakota> how do i get to that?
[04:38] <nalioth> dbee: i doubt you'll connect b4 the site gets reset
[04:38] <ce33na> castingpearls: sorry...cant help. I'm in a rental house 80 miles from my real home (work, you know). My wife must have my ssh server box turned off because I cannot log in and go peek at my son's machine right now
[04:38] <nalioth> dbee: and when it does, you can check the string there b4 you add it to your apt-get
[04:38] <iiiears> dbee - the filename should give google enough info to find another copy. - would of ben easier if the transfer worked tho.
[04:38] <castingpearls> ce33na:  thanks for the help
[04:39] <nooneelse> someone knows where to find a package to run WMV files ?
[04:39] <dbee> iiiears: thanks anyway iiiears, I appreciate the effort :-)
[04:39] <ce33na> nooneelse: xine will run it if you add the codecs
[04:39] <EasterSunshine> nooneelse: there is a w32 codecs pack although i've heard numerous times that it does not worked
[04:39] <iiiears> nooneelse, w32codecs
[04:39] <EasterSunshine> nooneelse: it worked me however
[04:39] <dbee> nalioth: it just gives the URI, and doesn't say anything else ...
[04:39] <[Spooky] > so anuone have any idea ?
[04:39] <dakota> nooneelse, could you show me how to do that plz
[04:39] <dakota> ?
[04:40] <nalioth> nooneelse: did you not find the answer at restricted formats?
[04:40] <nalioth> dbee: depending on how seveas has set up his repo, depends on what the string is you put in your apt
[04:41] <nooneelse> nalioth, yeah I found the w32codecs
[04:41] <dakota> could somebody help me change my screen resolution it wont do it in the system tools
[04:41] <nooneelse> now I'm searching for it
[04:41] <hardw1re> w00t time to check out my kernel i just compiled :D
[04:41] <jasmuz> does anybody in here successfully run Captive NTFS, i need to know how to operate it
[04:42] <bob2> jasmuz: it has no instructions?
[04:42] <darkheart> http://navindra.blogspot.com/2004/10/kde-dot-news-ext3s-miserable-failure.html
[04:42] <bob2> bear in mind it can toast your partitions if it screws up
[04:42] <nalioth> dakota: check your private msgs
[04:42] <bob2> (like any filesystem driver)
[04:42] <ce33na> I run Captive on a Red Hat machine once
[04:42] <dakota> thanks
[04:42] <[Spooky] > hm guess not... i dunno what to do hehe, i wouldnt wanna install windows just to get net running...
[04:42] <dbee> iiiears: I'm just wondering whether I'd get the same problem I have already though, when I install j2re off the repository it tells me I'm using the wrong libc ... do you reckon it would be worth trying with another jre off the net ???
[04:42] <ce33na> jasmuz: the Captive NTFS website explained it very well
[04:43] <ce33na> IIRC, I made an addition to /etc/fstab
[04:43] <nalioth> dbee: are you running an intel compatible box?
[04:43] <nooneelse> i dont think that write on ntfs is a good idea
[04:43] <bob2> [Spooky] : configure it manually then
[04:43] <nooneelse> even using the captive driver
[04:43] <dbee> nalioth: yes
[04:43] <iiiears> dbee - a good question wrong libc is a very different error.
[04:43] <nalioth> nooneelse: not unless you are tired of windows, <snicker>
[04:43] <[Spooky] > bob2 ok how ?
[04:43] <vader1102> Good Evening everyone
[04:43] <bob2> darkheart: right, ext3 without hashed directories would be slow
[04:44] <ce33na> nooneelse: it really screws with the ntfs file system (is that redundant?)
[04:44] <cafuego> dbee: It's a known bug.
[04:44] <bob2> darkheart: but at least yo ucould recover your data ;)
[04:44] <cafuego> dbee: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:44] <bob2> darkheart: (modern ext3 filesystems perform far far better with large dirs)
[04:44] <nalioth_> fscking apple hardware
[04:44] <nalioth_> fscking linux smp kernels
[04:44] <EasterSunshine> while we are on the topic, is there any problem with having absurdly big directories in ext3? i'm talking about 100,000 files under a singel dir?
[04:44] <bob2> nalioth_: ?
[04:44] <iiiears> cafuego - hm - nice link. thx. :)
[04:44] <zblach> anyone here know jack about wireless networking?
[04:44] <nalioth_> bob2: keeps locking up on my dual proc powermac
[04:44] <bob2> [Spooky] : restart the install.  when it probes for dhcp love, what happens?
[04:45] <dbee> cafuego: it seems to be a number of bugs all at once ... I've tried the wiki when I try to install fakeroot, it throws up a free(): pointer error
[04:45] <zblach> bob2: shudders at sentence
[04:45] <bob2> nalioth_: and mac os X worked fine? (ie, it's not hardware?)
[04:45] <cafuego> zblach: As long as I don't need to calculate angles
[04:45] <bob2> zblach: best to ask your question...
[04:45] <nalioths_dog> dbee: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[04:45] <zblach> cafuego, no angles required. i'll do the trig, you get this working
[04:45] <cafuego> dbee: installing fakeroot via apt-get gives you an error?
[04:45] <[Spooky] > bob2 nothing its doing that fine no complains...
[04:46] <nalioth_> bob2 not hardware
[04:46] <zblach> cafuego, bob2: card ndiswrappered okay, but it doesn't respond to iwconfig changes, and doesn't detect any wireless networks
[04:46] <dbee> cafuego: yes :-( ... I'll try it again
[04:46] <darkheart> bob2 =) I dunno either way. Haven't had any hands on testing.
[04:46] <bob2> nalioth_: file a bug!
[04:46] <bob2> zblach: ah, you're probably screwed then; unless the ndiswrapper people have ideas.
[04:46] <durt> zblach: so the lights are on i assume...
[04:46] <cafuego> zblach: Yeah, unload ndiswrapper, edit /etc/network/interfaces, reload using 'ifup', repeat until it works.
[04:46] <nalioth_> bob2 different things trigger the lockup
[04:46] <zblach> durt, yhes
[04:46] <bob2> [Spooky] : so it gets a lease and address?
[04:46] <zblach> cafuego, serious?
[04:46] <cafuego> zblach: yep.
[04:47] <nalioth_> dbee: what the dog sent should work just fine for you
[04:47] <cafuego> zblach: That (eventually) made my netgear work.
[04:47] <vader1102> zblach, what card do you have?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> zblach, cafuego is right
[04:47] <nalioth_> dbee: i've never had any luck d/l java from the repos
[04:47] <jason^> so hoary is the newest i can get right?  i can't use something like testing/unstable like in debian?
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> that should work
[04:47] <zblach> vader1102, WMP11V27
[04:47] <Duvel> cafuego, it 'll be ifup eth0 i think?
[04:47] <vader1102> what manufacturer
[04:47] <cafuego> Duvel: probably wlan0
[04:47] <zblach> vader1102, linksys
[04:47] <bob2> jason^: you can, but it's more broken than testing and unstable
[04:47] <nomasteryoda|w> or ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:47] <Ice9> how do I install a program that has a bunch of .class files?
[04:48] <iiiears> cafuego - libc error and java  - How does that happen?
[04:48] <vader1102> k hold on
[04:48] <bob2> Ice9: find the instructions
[04:48] <dbee> cafuego: cool, it seems to work this time
[04:48] <cafuego> nomasteryoda|w: No, that doesn't use the wireless info from /etc/network/interfaces
[04:48] <Ice9> bob2 its not in the instructions
[04:48] <bob2> iiiears: apt complaining about the vesion of libc6?
[04:48] <zblach> cafuego, how to remove?
[04:48] <bob2> Ice9: then ask the author
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> cafuego, ok
[04:48] <cafuego> iiiears: The extras jre package used an incorrect depend.
[04:48] <nomasteryoda|w> glad to know that
[04:48] <bob2> Ice9: .class files are just java bytecode, you can't do anything useful with them
[04:48] <cafuego> zblach: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper
[04:48] <tgall_foo> are there any ubuntu ppc users in here?  I'd like to know if the g5 support is running on a ppc64 or ppc kernel
[04:48] <ce33na> Ice9: is it java
[04:48] <iiiears> bob2 - dbee only said that java complained. - likely didn't get all of the info.
[04:48] <deprave> hola
[04:48] <Ice9> its called Dvd Ripper
[04:49] <cafuego> tgall_foo: iMac G5?
[04:49] <dbee> nalioth: ya, I reckon I'll try it via the wiki route again, it seems like fakeroot is behaving itself this time around ... and not freezing my synaptic
[04:49] <tgall_foo> cafuego, dual g5 tower
[04:49] <cafuego> tgall_foo: nalioth should be able to help then, I think
[04:49] <iiiears> cafuego - you are going to teach me something yet. - wide grin
[04:49] <iiiears> Thanks
[04:49] <cafuego> tgall_foo: (I suspect they run 32bit though)
[04:49] <nalioth_> bob2: the pisser of it is: every time the machine locks up (doesnt shut down properly) i have to boot into osx and repermission my hfs partitions that i use under ubuntu
[04:50] <cafuego> iiiears: if only that eating yellow snow is bad...
[04:50] <bob2> Ice9: I wouldn't bother using a java application for that
[04:50] <Total> hey guys i have a question?
[04:50] <bob2> Ice9: use drip or dvd::rip or thoggen or ..
[04:50] <nalioth_> bob2: otw, i cant write to them (not even remounting rw or using sudo)
[04:50] <tgall_foo> nalioth_, see my q ?
[04:50] <EasterSunshine> Total: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[04:50] <TraceGreen> Hello, there is something wrong with my bootsplash, when kernel start my init process, splash change from silent to verbose. what's wrong?
[04:50] <cafuego> Total: 42
[04:50] <nooneelse> nalioth_, I've found a workaround with essential codecs of mplayer libs :)
[04:50] <bob2> TraceGreen: on breezy?
[04:50] <EasterSunshine> Total: although no one ever answers me when i ask...
[04:50] <Ice9> this one will rip and encode in one process
[04:50] <Total> why does the Totem movie player not play dvds
[04:50] <nalioth_> tgall_foo: sorry, you didnt preface it with my nick
[04:50] <TraceGreen> bob2, sorry, but what is breezy?
[04:50] <cafuego> tgall_foo: Actually, it SHOULD be fully supported, I'm fairly sure Linus uses one himself :-)
[04:50] <durt> EasterSunshine: ditto
[04:50] <EasterSunshine> !breezy
[04:50] <ubotu> I heard breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[04:51] <nalioth_> tgall_foo: what was your question?
[04:51] <iiiears> in a linux channel yellow snow comes from yellowdogs
[04:51] <nooneelse> Total, maybe u need to install the libdvdcss2
[04:51] <ce33na> Ice9: GRIP does it also
[04:51] <TraceGreen> bob2, nice to meet you, you helped me a lot .:-)
[04:51] <Total> how do i do thAT
[04:51] <cafuego> iiiears: I just sneezed onto some white snow...
[04:51] <tgall_foo> nalioth_, on the g5 support that you have, are you runing the 64 bit kernel?
[04:51] <EasterSunshine> total: `sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2` perhaps
[04:51] <nalioth_> tgall_foo: i'm running power4-smp
[04:51] <cafuego> nalioth_: my mistake
[04:52] <cafuego> tgall_foo: oops ;-)
[04:52] <tgall_foo> nalioth_,   uname == ppc64 ?
[04:52] <nooneelse> Total, apt-get install libdvdcss2
[04:52] <nalioth_> nooneelse: great!
[04:52] <vader1102> who was looking for wireless stuff?
[04:52] <vader1102> z????
[04:52] <nomasteryoda|w> EasterSunshine, Total you need to add the Hoary backports to sources.list
[04:52] <cafuego> tgall_foo: I'm 99% sure it uses a 32bit kernel kernel compiled for G5 specifically and the standard userland.
[04:52] <nalioth_> tgall_foo: i think i need a more detailed uname command to get that (all mine says is ubuntu)
[04:52] <nooneelse> Total, and I recommend but just recommend to u to use "apt-get install totem-xine"
[04:53] <EasterSunshine> total: do you know about adding repos to your sources.list?
[04:53] <tgall_foo> nalioth_, do uname -a
[04:53] <nooneelse> Total, before installing the libdvdcss2
[04:53] <cafuego> tgall_foo: nalioth_ has a dual G4, so it'll be 32bit regardless.
[04:53] <nalioth_> cafuego: dual G4?
[04:53] <nalioth_> cafuego: i'm runnin a dual G5 powermac
[04:53] <cafuego> nalioth_: didn't you?
[04:53] <cafuego> nalioth_: d'oh
[04:53] <dabaR> /dev/hda5 /media/18\040GB\040Disk\040(hda5) ntfs ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0 <--- is it proper? I mean, it is not, I would not ask, bu, what should I fix
[04:53] <Total> no
[04:53] <tgall_foo> cafuego, power4 != g4
[04:53] <Total> its not finding it
[04:54] <cafuego> tgall_foo: yes, I know. The CPU types are different, but I'm sure they both run 32bit Linux
[04:54] <nooneelse> Total, maybe your mirrors dont have it
[04:54] <Total> i dont know
[04:54] <senile_implant> does anyone know what could cause programs to keep spontaneously closing on me with no sort of error message or anything?
[04:54] <nooneelse> Total, I use the us mirrors
[04:54] <Total> how would i find out
[04:54] <nomasteryoda|w> !dvd
[04:54] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[04:54] <nooneelse> Total, use apt-setup
[04:54] <cafuego> tgall_foo: as in: i had to specify a specific kernel on an imac G5 for the LiveCD, but the userland is the standard ppc lot.
[04:54] <nomasteryoda|w> Total, just add that to your list
[04:54] <tgall_foo> cafuego, well 32 bit user space doesn't mean a 32 bit linux tho ... as on a 64 bit kernel, applications in user space have access to the full 4 gig
[04:54] <nalioth> tgall_foo: my uname output says nothing about ppc64
[04:54] <EasterSunshine> dabar: ntfs ro,umask=0222,uid=dabar,gid=dabar 0 0
[04:54] <nooneelse> Total, and set your mirrors to us.archive.ubuntu.org
[04:55] <Total> it says i need a disk
[04:55] <ce33na> Total: you need to add repositories. anyone know how to tell him how to do it without sending him to the webpage we are not supposed to mention
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[04:55] <nooneelse> or just choose into HTTP options "united states"
[04:55] <cafuego> tgall_foo: SO I doubt it would use the ppc64 kernel - that would (to me) imply it would use ppc64 userland as well, which it doesn't; Ubuntu doesn't have one.
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> dabar: replace dabar with your username
[04:55] <nooneelse> Total, no i don't
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> !repos
[04:55] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:55] <nooneelse> cancel this step
[04:55] <tgall_foo> cafuego, ok .. if you're running on an imac g5 then that has to be ppc64  there's no ppc32 support
[04:55] <nomasteryoda|w> hehe
[04:55] <senile_implant> ce33na, why can't you mention a webpage?
[04:55] <nalioth> cafuego: the installer said "power4" was for ibm power4 proc, and G5s
[04:55] <EasterSunshine> guys...please talk slower...
[04:55] <Total> no It says when i typed apt-setup you need disk
[04:56] <dabaR> EasterSunshine: replace what?
[04:56] <cafuego> tgall_foo: It doesn't run, it hands early on
[04:56] <cafuego> hangs
[04:56] <nalioth> tgall_foo: i have yet to get ANY linux runnin on my imac G5
[04:56] <tgall_foo> cafuego, well actually you can run 32 bit user space on top of a ppc64 kernel just fine ... have a number of reasons for asking ... see I take care gentoo-ppc64 :-)
[04:56] <ce33na> !ubuntuguide
[04:56] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned
[04:56] <tgall_foo> nalioth, O? It's actually quite easy .. want directions?
[04:56] <tgall_foo> nalioth, further .. have you guys thought about supporting other ppc64 boxes besides apple machines ?
[04:56] <nooneelse> Total, then... jump this step
[04:56] <dabaR> Also, I want to let everyone use it, not just my user name, EasterSunshine.
[04:56] <nalioth> tgall_foo: sure, join ##apple and tell me
[04:56] <ce33na> senile_implant: did that make sense? :)
[04:56] <nomasteryoda|w> Total, you need to manually edit the file .... sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: basically replace the column that says "ro,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000" with "ro,umask=0222,uid=dabar,gid=dabar"
[04:56] <nooneelse> Total, cancel etc..etc.. it'll take u in a menu screen
[04:56] <senile_implant> ce33na, yeah... but i find that site rather useful
[04:57] <remyforbes777>  any 64 bit Ubuntu users in here
[04:57] <ce33na> me too
[04:57] <ce33na> I don't need an explanation
[04:57] <nomasteryoda|w> Total, save, then close, then sudo apt-get update
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: that will set you as the owner, but the permissions will be r-wr-wr-w
[04:57] <nomasteryoda|w> Total, apt is already installed
[04:57] <jasmuz> does anybody in here successfully run Captive NTFS, i need to know how to operate it (figured how to properly install but i dont know the commands)
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: you HAVe to have an user and group owner, might as well make it yourself
[04:57] <dabaR> right
[04:57] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: after you have updated fstab, unmount it, and remount it
[04:57] <senile_implant> does anyone know what could cause programs to keep spontaneously closing on me with no sort of error message or anything?
[04:58] <senile_implant> or how i would go about investigating it
[04:58] <Total> ah the apt-get install totem-xine worked
[04:58] <zerboxx> When I plug in my usbkey, it says that it's 19.9 megs, but it's actually 128...whats wrong?!?!
[04:58] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: segmentation faults...
[04:58] <jasmuz> zerboxx: is it 128 on a windoze box?
[04:58] <Total> its unpacking something
[04:58] <jchico> hey, anybody good with wine knows what it means when it says "wineserver permission denied" ?
[04:58] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: maybe run them from a terminal, then at least you will be able to see the exit status, or if it returns an error to stdout
[04:58] <senile_implant> EasterSunshine, what would cause them to occur? (sorry if this is a really broad question)
[04:58] <zerboxx> jasmuz: I haven't checked, but it should be
[04:58] <jchico> thing is driving me nuts...
[04:59] <dabaR> still not working. it says root is owner, and that only he can rx.
[04:59] <bob2> jchico: try #winehq
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: i am not 100% sure they are segfaults, thats why run them from a terminal
[04:59] <jasmuz> zerboxx: souns like a corrupted fat16, you shoud repartition it if its not 128 under windows
[04:59] <bob2> dabaR: show us the output of "mount | grep /whever/you/mounted/it"
[04:59] <jchico> thanks bob2
[04:59] <dabaR> changed to user, saved, closed, umounted, mounted -a.
[04:59] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: if anything goes wrong, there will definetely be something in the terminal for you
[04:59] <senile_implant> EasterSunshine, good idea... except sometimes they don't crash for days. And it's not always one particular program, there are at least 3 that crash on me
[04:59] <zerboxx> jasmuz: Should I try that anyways?
[04:59] <senile_implant> EasterSunshine, thanks for the advice though, I'll try that
[05:00] <zblach> back
[05:00] <oni> Is there a good way to view embbeded flash movies on firefox over PPC?
[05:00] <Br34ch> sorry for the bother, but could someone please link me to to the howto that explains installing Ubuntu on a low-spec computer? :x
[05:00] <jasmuz> zerboxx: no, first check
[05:00] <[Spooky] > well no luck in getting internet.... guess i have to use the shitty windows :/
[05:00] <Orborde> I have a problem. I broke sudo.
[05:00] <zerboxx> jasmuz: Ok..lemme see what I can do :)
[05:00] <zblach> bob2, who was i talking to earlier?
[05:00] <nalioth> Br34ch: wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:00] <jasmuz> ciao ppl
[05:00] <dbee> nalioth: Hi, with regards to downloading the java bin files ... I can just dive right in and download the JDK .bin can't I ??? or should I try to install the JDK first
[05:00] <Br34ch> thanks
[05:00] <bob2> [Spooky] : er, why?  install ubuntu, fix up network later.  enjoy!
[05:01] <dabaR> are you sure there is output? I dont htink I got any. I umounted it again, then sudo mount | grep /media/18whaeva
[05:01] <Orborde> My sudo command = busted. What do I do?
[05:01] <zblach> join #linux
[05:01] <Luna-Tick> Guys,
[05:01] <bob2> dabaR: what? no.  run that while it's mounted.
[05:01] <EasterSunshine> dabar: what is the problem with it? can you cd into it and list the contents of the disk?
[05:01] <dbee> nalioth: oops, I meant to say should I install the JRE first !!
[05:01] <bob2> Orborde: you need to be a ton less vague
[05:01] <[Spooky] > bob2 ubuntu is installed, and i dont have any use of it without internet...
[05:01] <nalioth> dbee: follow the dogs directions, they work well
[05:01] <Orborde> bob2: Okay, let me get sample output.
[05:01] <dabaR> wait, wait, I se something.
[05:01] <nalioth> dbee: for most people
[05:02] <dabaR> yay, I got what you wanted now.
[05:02] <Luna-Tick> Is there a way to play DVDs with gstreamer totem? It all works fine with totem-xine, but I think that the lack of libdvdcss is stopping me playing dvds through the gstreamer setup
[05:02] <dabaR> yaya, rather.
[05:02] <bob2> [Spooky] : edit /etc/network/interfaces then
[05:02] <nate_> Okay quick question
[05:02] <Orborde> This is what I'm getting: $ sudo do stuff
[05:02] <Orborde> sudo: must be setuid root
[05:02] <EasterSunshine> dabaR: you got what YOU wanted or what WE wanted...?
[05:02] <nate_> I want to rip only a certain part of a song, anyway at all to do this?
[05:02] <Br34ch> [@bob2 ] : [Spooky] : er, why? install ubuntu, fix up network later. enjoy! <-- fix up network . . . hmm, how far to an extent can I "do" stuff from network? Because I have a laptop on which I installed ubuntu a few weeks ago . . . then crashed it. I went around everywhere desperately trying to somehow save the stuff that was on the hard drive.. but just today I decided I would simply start fresh :x
[05:02] <bob2> Orborde: paste the full output of "mount" to #flood
[05:02] <[Spooky] > bob2 with what, what should i put in there ?
[05:02] <senile_implant> EasterSunshine, if something does happen to cause a seg fault and I get some sort of an error in the terminal, how will I be able to debug that?
[05:03] <bob2> nate_: sure, cdparanoia has options for that.  way way easier to rip the whole thing and snip the bit you want out later, tho.
[05:03] <zblach> bob2, can you repeat what you told me earlier? system crash
[05:03] <bob2> [Spooky] : a text editor, join #flood
[05:03] <bob2> zblach: I don't remember
[05:03] <dabaR> good fixed, thanks.
[05:03] <ce33na> Orborde: are you trying to access sudo from the first user account that was set up?
[05:03] <dbee> nalioth: all it says is to 'download the self-extracting linux files' ?? ... oh, well ... I guess I'll grab the jre first and then take it from there
[05:03] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: i don't think you can just FIX segfaults, they are usually problems in the programs design
[05:03] <zblach> bob2, something about removing ndiswrapper and using ifup a whole bunch
[05:03] <bob2> Br34ch: I don't get your question...
[05:03] <nate_> Okay ripping the whole thing and snipping it out can be done with cdparanoia? Also would I run apt-get install cdparanoia? bob2?
[05:04] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: but then there is always the option of trying other versions, if the segfault was on an unstable
[05:04] <Orborde> bob2: Pasted
[05:04] <bob2> zblach: if you're having problems with ndiswrapper, go talk to the ndiswrapper people, they're way mroe likely to know about it
[05:04] <[Spooky] > bob2 yes, but what should i type in it ? you see im not that guru in linux...
[05:04] <bob2> nate_: no
[05:04] <zblach> .join #ndiswrapper
[05:04] <Orborde> ce33na: Yes. I have admin-rights enabled. I think.
[05:04] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: a segfault is when your program tries to access memory outside its allocated space
[05:04] <bob2> nate_: you rip it however you normally would (grip is nice), then use sweep to cut the bit of the track yo uwant
[05:04] <senile_implant> EasterSunshine, well the programs that are crashing regularly are kicker, mozilla-firefox and opera (to name a few) so i don't see how they could be poorly coded
[05:04] <bob2> [Spooky] : join the freaking channel and I'll show you
[05:04] <senile_implant> EasterSunshine, could it be a hardware issue?
[05:05] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: then maybe its not a segfault. wait for another crash
[05:05] <nomasteryoda|w> senile_implant, well we see the problem... kde
[05:05] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:05] <EasterSunshine> yeah, i'll admit kde's pretty buggy
[05:05] <senile_implant> nomasteryoda|w, ...
[05:05] <Br34ch> bob2: if ubuntu can be installed over network, could it maybe serve help troubleshooting the problems that are already on my laptop? Because X doesn't work.. and lots of things on the mere hard drive seem to have been erased, including a few very essential things. Although luckily, my personal files still seem to exist . . . I wish to somehow save those :x
[05:05] <nomasteryoda|w> kicker is kde app
[05:05] <[Spooky] > bob2 done
[05:05] <bob2> Orborde: and "ls -ld /usr/bin/sudo"
[05:05] <oni> will neverwinter nights install in a PPC?
[05:05] <bob2> oni: do you have the linux/ppc version of the game?
[05:05] <senile_implant> i still like kde better than gnome
[05:05] <EasterSunshine> nomasteryoda|w: the other two aren't...
[05:05] <nomasteryoda|w> right
[05:06] <EasterSunshine> senile_implant: watch out you'll start a major flame war =/
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> but gtk causes issues with those
[05:06] <Orborde> bob2: Pasted to #flood
[05:06] <nalioth> dbee: did you see what nalioths_dog sent you?
[05:06] <senile_implant> nomasteryoda|w, it was happening in gnome too before i switched to kde
[05:06] <bob2> Br34ch: yes, using the livecd is an excellent way to fiddle with broken systems
[05:06] <oni> bob2: I'm downloading the resources
[05:06] <senile_implant> EasterSunshine, lol i don't care
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> senile_implant, do the memory test then
[05:06] <bob2> oni: is that a yes or a no?
[05:06] <bob2> Orborde: "someone" removed the setuid bit
[05:06] <senile_implant> nomasteryoda|w, how do i do the memory test?
[05:06] <nomasteryoda|w> senile_implant, on boot the bottom option should be Ubuntu memtest
[05:07] <bob2> Orborde: reboot to recovery mode and run "chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo"
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> er, hit Esc then choose it
[05:07] <bob2> Orborde: and tell that "someone" not to play with chmod in future...
[05:07] <oni> bob2: I don't have the client yet if that is what you mean
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> i forget ... i turn off hiddenmenu
[05:07] <senile_implant> nomasteryoda|w, ok I'll try that if i can't figure it out without rebooting. thanks
[05:07] <bushrat> +i
[05:07] <Br34ch> bob2: livecd eh, never had heard anything of it. Could you perhaps link me to somewhere precise (or keywords I could hit the search engines with) where I could get a bit more info? :o
[05:07] <bob2> oni: no, it's not what I mean
[05:07] <nomasteryoda|w> senile_implant, you can do an strace
[05:07] <volvoguy> can i transform a RAID0 array into a RAID1 array? even though the device name is the same, it doesn't seem to want to boot when i move the second drive to the second ide bus.
[05:07] <bob2> Br34ch: it's in the same dir as where you downloaded the ubuntu install cd from
[05:08] <EasterSunshine> Br34ch: look on ubuntulinux.org, download page
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> senile_implant, type man strace to read about it
[05:08] <oni> bob2: then you're meaning a PPC version of the client? I'm asking if it exists
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> quite handy debugging tool
[05:08] <senile_implant> nomasteryoda|w, already doing that :D
[05:08] <volvoguy> i don't think you can set one disk of a RAID0 array as missing temporarily.
[05:08] <Orborde> bob2: Actually, I did that myself, because I'm a MORON
[05:08] <bob2> volvoguy: if you're talking abotu software raid, best to include that keyphrase in your question ;)
[05:08] <Br34ch> Got it, thanks
[05:08] <senile_implant> nomasteryoda|w, (the man part i mean, cuz i have no idea what strace is)
[05:08] <nomasteryoda|w> senile_implant, hehe
[05:08] <volvoguy> bob2, sorry.... yes. software raid as configured during a hoary install.
[05:08] <bob2> oni: if there's a mac os x one, it might run in MOL
[05:08] <nate_> I'm not getting sound through Grip, is there a fix?
[05:09] <nomasteryoda|w> senile_implant, i never used until 3 days ago... to debug OpenSuSE 10b2 issue
[05:09] <[Spooky] > bob2 im waiting...
[05:09] <senile_implant> nomasteryoda|w, did you figure it out?
[05:09] <bob2> nate_: er, weren't you trying to rip a song from a cd?
[05:09] <bob2> [Spooky] : there you go
[05:09] <oni> bob2: I want to run it native
[05:10] <bob2> oni: and I want a pony
[05:10] <nomasteryoda|w> senile_implant, well i was able to submit a bugzilla report to Novell... and they are working it... it was way to involved for my limited programming skilz
[05:10] <jorgp> how do I inject a package, make dpkg think it's installed?
[05:10] <Total> how do i get libdvdcss
[05:10] <bob2> jorgp: apt-cache show equivs
[05:10] <oni> bob2: there IS a native version of NWN for Linux 
[05:10] <bob2> Total: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:10] <[Spooky] > bob2 and it dosent matter where i type it in the file ?
[05:10] <bob2> oni: for ppc?
[05:10] <nomasteryoda|w> but then again, it was the YaST installer... lots of proprietary code there
[05:10] <bob2> [Spooky] : er
[05:10] <oni> bob2: I'm just asking if that native version runs on PPC
[05:10] <bob2> [Spooky] : put it at the end
[05:10] <[Spooky] > bob2 ok
[05:10] <Total> without having to go to a website
[05:10] <dbee> nalioth: ???? who or what is nalioths_dog ?
[05:10] <bob2> presumably you wouldn't drop lines in the middle of the existign contents
[05:11] <[Spooky] > bob2 then reboot ?
[05:11] <bob2> Total: why can't you read the wiki?
[05:11] <nalioths_dog> dbee: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[05:11] <bob2> [Spooky] : after modifying to match your network, no
[05:11] <cafuego> dbee: how bout a dog, that belongs to nalioth?
[05:11] <bob2> [Spooky] : sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[05:11] <nalioth> dbee: my helpful hound, full of knowledge (and other stuff)
[05:11] <zblach> crap, my sound just died
[05:11] <[Spooky] > bob2 thanks, gonna try it out...
[05:11] <bob2> oni: so, you're asking "Will the Linux/i386 version of NWN run on Ubuntu/PPC?"?
[05:11] <bob2> "no"
[05:11] <bob2> try using qemu
[05:12] <jorgp> bob2: thanks
[05:12] <nate_> yeah, bob2, but with Grip you can rip a certain part of a song by setting sectors, I just found this, but when I try to hear the music, I'm not hearing anything, and when i try to play CDs, I'
[05:12] <nate_> m not hearing anything
[05:12] <dbee> dbee: ahhhh ... I see now ... good boy nalioths_dog
[05:12] <oni> bob2: nope at all, I'm asking "Is the NWN Linux Client aviliable for PPC?"
[05:12] <ce33na> Total: there are a lot of files that need to be installed for flawless dvd playback. better read the instructions
[05:12] <Luna-Tick> total : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-678652e98460a8972499ef8dd9982e15f3e0d671
[05:12] <bob2> nate_: you can't play cds with grip if your computer is missing the 10c cable linking the sound card to the cd drive
[05:12] <Luna-Tick> Sorry
[05:13] <nate_> oh...o-o
[05:13] <bob2> Total: if you'd just read the website, you'd be watching a movie by now
[05:13] <volvoguy> back to my software raid issue.... when booting it seems to choke because the uuid is different when drive two is moved to IDE bus two. might it boot if i just comment out the uuid section of mdadm.conf?
[05:14] <zblach> hey, what do i do to save my settings after running alsamixer?
[05:15] <nalioth> oni: if the source code is available, it will run on ppc (most things do, anyway)
[05:15] <ce33na> Total: when you get everything needed for dvd playback...study up on "hdparm"
[05:15] <oni> I'll try
[05:15] <oni> thanks nalioth
[05:15] <J_P> hi all
[05:16] <phayze2> hmm, i'd like to comment
[05:16] <phayze2> ubuntu is amazing
[05:16] <oni> phayze2 sure it is
[05:16] <ce33na> phaze2: new to linux?
[05:16] <phayze2> i've tried fedora core 4 for awhile
[05:16] <J_P> people, not are more diponible sun-j2re1.5 in backports ?
[05:17] <phayze2> it didn't seem all that stable
[05:17] <J_P> acroread not too ?
[05:17] <ce33na> phayze2: ouch
[05:17] <EasterSunshine> ce33na: do you know about nick completion? on most clients, you can press tab when you have typed someones name in halfway
[05:17] <phayze2> yeah, it was killer
[05:17] <Viziri> is there a quick way to install all codecs to play dvd's avi's quicktime etc
[05:17] <ce33na> EasterSunshine: old habits you know
[05:17] <ce33na> Viziri: I don't know of a quick way
[05:17] <EasterSunshine> Viziri: `apt-cache search codec` and then `sudo apt-get install all the codecs that you found`
[05:18] <durt> use gpdf or evince
[05:18] <J_P> anyone can help install java in hoary ?
[05:18] <nalioth> Viziri: install all gstreamer plugins (after enabling all the official repos)
[05:18] <ch107783> Viziri you can go to mrbass.org and download the unofficial ubuntu add-on CD
[05:18] <durt> !java
[05:18] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:18] <ch107783> it will setup practically everything
[05:19] <EasterSunshine> uh oh there are 87 packs with "codec" in it
[05:19] <Viziri> good idea EasterSunshine :) - but will i be installing more codecs than i really need
[05:19] <Total> hey bob answer this please how do i get libdvdcss2
[05:19] <EasterSunshine> Viziri: yes
[05:19] <phayze2> sudo apt-get libdvdcss2
[05:19] <nalioth> Viziri: they dont take up much room
[05:20] <volvoguy> Total, it's in hoary-extras from the backports project.
[05:20] <tritium> hey nalioth :)
[05:20] <EasterSunshine> Total: do `sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2` after you have updates your sources.list
[05:20] <Drewfus> ch107783 it failed install again
[05:20] <Drewfus> it cant find the kernel
[05:20] <ch107783> it did
[05:20] <Viziri> ok thanks guys. I was about to reinstall but finally got my speedtouch modem working ;)
[05:20] <[Spooky] > bob2 hm that didnt work :/
[05:21] <ch107783> you ran the sh NVIDIA from /usr/src?
[05:21] <J_P> i i forget uncomment lines backports here :-)
[05:21] <J_P> sorry
[05:21] <Total> how do i update my source list
[05:21] <tritium> After 3 weeks fighting with comcast, I'm back online
[05:21] <Drewfus> yeah
[05:21] <ch107783> that is crazy
[05:21] <Total> apt-get upgrade source-list
[05:21] <durt> yes, comcast pisses me off sometimes
[05:21] <jorgp> is there a breezy extras?
[05:21] <nalioth> jorgp: not yet
[05:21] <tritium> no kidding, durt
[05:21] <ch107783> one last thing try this ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 linux
[05:22] <ch107783> then try it again
[05:22] <nalioths_dog> Total: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:22] <nalioths_dog> Total: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:22] <Drewfus> in a terminal with x?
[05:22] <Drewfus> or without
[05:22] <jorgp> nalioth: will the hoary extras work?
[05:22] <ksmurf> !alsa
[05:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[05:22] <jorgp> nalioth: in breezy
[05:22] <ch107783> you can do it in a terminal preferably without so that you can try and run the command
[05:22] <nalioth> jorgp: breezy is very new to have 'extras'
[05:23] <ce33na> Total: you have to manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list    that is why you need to check the documentation
[05:23] <nalioth> jorgp: you may havta install from source
[05:23] <[Spooky] > well back to windows then...
[05:23] <oni> noooooo!!
[05:23] <oni> xD
[05:23] <steveO_Laptop> hello all can some one tell me how to disable raid? dont need it on my laptop
[05:23] <ce33na> slap that man on the ctrl-alt-del
[05:24] <fabsoft> #backports
[05:24] <fabsoft> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[05:24] <fabsoft> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[05:24] <volvoguy> steveO_Laptop, what kind of laptop?
[05:24] <oni> hey! careful with Ethan tha man
[05:24] <oni> xD
[05:24] <Drewfus> ok ill try that
[05:24] <steveO_Laptop> toshbia 7010 300 mhz with 128 ram
[05:25] <oni> someone here reads Ctrl+Alt+Del Webcomic?
[05:25] <steveO_Laptop> volvoguy,  toshbia 7010 300 mhz with 128 ram
[05:25] <J_P> hey, i think not have uncomment, but are uncomment yes backports lines..
[05:25] <volvoguy> steveO_Laptop, wow - they did raid way back then? on my portege S100 the only way to do it seems to be in the bios - which warns it will destroy all the data on the drive. (so i haven't done so yet).
[05:25] <J_P> but not found java.. :-9
[05:25] <J_P> :-(
[05:25] <J_P> !java
[05:26] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:27] <steveO_Laptop> volvoguy,  the install was done on a HP then the harddrive was put into the old toshiba and re-config X and the hardware.. Im trying to speed up the boot time right now it takes 3 min and runs slow
[05:28] <steveO_Laptop> volvoguy, that was a bad idea installing that way but couldnt the the cdrom to boot
[05:28] <cafuego_> !status
[05:28] <volvoguy> steveO_Laptop, i'm not sure then. i'm guessing my new Toshiba is pretty different than yours.
[05:28] <ksmurf> how can I get my sound to load at startup instead of always having to go into alsa mixer and unmute?
[05:30] <volvoguy> steveO_Laptop, on mine, hoary didn't recognize the cdrom at all during install - but that part is working better as of the Breezy Colony 3 release. i still wouldn't recommend that on a system that you need to keep working yet though.
[05:30] <steveO_Laptop> volvoguy, ok thanks
[05:31] <cafuego> much better
[05:31] <volvoguy> steveO_Laptop, you could always join the laptop testing team and report how things work. then you could try and get laptop specific help in the ubuntu-laptop channel.
[05:31] <c0rrupt_> problem installing nessus please help____ http://pastebin.com/346542
[05:32] <steveO_Laptop> volvoguy, thats a good idea for i have 8 laptops and 16 computers here
[05:32] <steveO_Laptop> :)
[05:32] <volvoguy> steveO_Laptop, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[05:32] <remyforbes777> i need a prod key for tablet XP
[05:33] <Total> apt-get upgrade source-list
[05:33] <amonkey> i have a ttf font, can i use that in gimp, and how?
[05:33] <Total> I can find libdvdread3
[05:33] <cafuego_> remyforbes777: Go ask for warez somewhere else, otherwise you'll get banned.
[05:33] <Drewfus> ch107783
[05:33] <remyforbes777> sorry
[05:33] <Total> but what am i supposed to do after that
[05:33] <shamus> Could someone reccomend me a good cd ripper for ubuntu?
[05:33] <cafuego_> AND it's not a ubuntu question
[05:33] <Drewfus> do i go to linux-source?
[05:33] <Drewfus> the dir
[05:33] <Drewfus> or am i supposed to run something
[05:33] <ch107783> yeah
[05:34] <Drewfus> what do i do once im in that dir
[05:34] <ch107783> where /usr/src
[05:34] <Drewfus> linux-source
[05:34] <ce33na> shamus: I like grip
[05:34] <ch107783> you creat a link in /usr/src
[05:34] <Drewfus> to what
[05:34] <c0rrupt_> problem installing nessus please help -> http://pastebin.com/346542
[05:35] <Drewfus> to the folder?
[05:35] <Drewfus> or to the tar
[05:35] <zoexi> hey, this might be the wrong channel, but... does anyone know how to make gimp remember a save to location and file format?  I can't figure it out..
[05:35] <ch107783> like this: ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 linux
[05:35] <ch107783> to the folder
[05:35] <cafuego_> c0rrupt_: You're having a problem COMPILING nessus, not INSTALLING nessus.
[05:35] <ch107783> type that exactly and you should get the link
[05:35] <Drewfus> i did that but now that im in the browser i dont see a link
[05:35] <ch107783> created
[05:35] <cafuego_> c0rrupt_: apt-get install nessus. Stop breaking your syste,/
[05:36] <ch107783> ls -lah in a terminal you should see linux and it should have an l at the beginning
[05:36] <ch107783> ls -lah /usr/src
[05:36] <Viziri> hmm, just to confirm Citrix ICA Client for Linux is not on install disc right?
[05:36] <ch107783> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     src        22 2005-08-07 22:17 linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[05:36] <Drewfus> i typed that and it doesnt say it did anything
[05:37] <volvoguy> we should have told remyforbes777 that we have an OS that doesn't require a key. ;-)
[05:37] <ksmurf> cafuego... if you install nessus that way why does the error about out of date plugins keep coming up in scans?
[05:37] <Drewfus> what?
[05:37] <Drewfus> oh
[05:37] <ch107783> Viziri you can dload it
[05:37] <cafuego_> ksmurf: Lack of running /usr/sbin/nessus-update-pugins I expect
[05:37] <Viziri> I am right now
[05:37] <linuxpoet> Hello folks
[05:37] <linuxpoet> What package am I missing
[05:37] <linuxpoet> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:37] <linuxpoet> gcc is installed
[05:37] <linuxpoet> cpp is installed
[05:38] <cafuego_> ksmurf: ... of whatever that tool is called these days.
[05:38] <c0rrupt_> cafuego,
[05:38] <c0rrupt_> old nessus is crap
[05:38] <Drewfus> what is the link supposed to be named
[05:38] <c0rrupt_> i need the new one
[05:38] <cafuego_> c0rrupt_: No, you don't.
[05:38] <c0rrupt_> ..
[05:38] <cafuego_> c0rrupt_: install messus, run 'sudo nessus-update-plugins'
[05:38] <c0rrupt_> yes, because the old one has all of these update errors
[05:38] <ch107783> linux
[05:38] <Drewfus> why linux
[05:39] <linuxpoet> Any thoughts?
[05:39] <ch107783> standard
[05:39] <c0rrupt_> i "can't" update plugins
[05:39] <Drewfus> named what
[05:40] <cafuego_> c0rrupt_: Then get the nessus source deb, replace the source with the tarball source you downloaded and build a NEW nessus using dpkg-buildpackage, so you get installable .deb files.
[05:40] <ch107783> it's a standard to link linux -> linux-headers-2.6.10-5
[05:40] <Drewfus> headers or source?
[05:40] <cafuego_> compiling (suid root!) stuff when you have no idea what you're doing is not clever.
[05:40] <Drewfus> oh i see
[05:40] <c0rrupt_> prolly
[05:41] <cafuego_> though admittedly your error appears to be an erro in the nessus Makefile
[05:41] <Drewfus> ok theres a link there, now do i go try the install again?
[05:41] <ch107783> Oh my bad
[05:41] <ch107783> yeah try it again
[05:41] <ksmurf> I'm recompiling alsa for my audigy 2 ... is there a walk though for the answers.....
[05:42] <Drewfus> ok ill be back in a little
[05:42] <cafuego_> ksmurf: backport the 1.0.9a breezy packages
[05:42] <cafuego_> ksmurf: they might even be in hoary-backports
[05:42] <ksmurf> k thanks
[05:43] <vortek_> hello
[05:43] <vortek_> I just installed the k7 kernel image.. And It locks up on boot.. stating ACPI  VENDER COMAPQ "TYPO IN CODE" System Eagles Revision 0x6040000  has a know ACPI Bios problem .  Acpi : Reason : SCI issues (c2 disabled) this is a recoverable error.... AND IT JUST Hangs  ] for ever ..
[05:43] <vortek_> know-known
[05:43] <coolguy> !
[05:43] <ubotu> Not a clue, coolguy
[05:44] <c0rrupt_> cafuego, source at nessus.org?
[05:44] <zblach> wlan0 : No Scan results, when theres clearly a network available
[05:44] <vortek_> its a laptop
[05:44] <c0rrupt_> zblach, are you in managed mode?
[05:44] <zblach> yuo
[05:44] <zblach> ***yes
[05:46] <benson> Question:  I'm trying to get access to a folder, but I do chmod commands and it says it changes it but it stays dx-r
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> benson: is it a non-ext3 mounted thingie?
[05:48] <benson> yes
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> benson: ntfs?
[05:48] <benson> yes
[05:48] <zerboxx> Anyone here who uses wireless with ubuntu, do you recommend any other programs?
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> bensom: `sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever /mount/point -o ro,umask=0222,uid=benson,gid=benson`
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> benson: replace "bensom" with your username in that command
[05:49] <benson> so i need to umount it first
[05:49] <mark_> hello!  i have a weird display issue I was hoping someone might be able to help with
[05:49] <mark_> im using intel 810 on-board video.
[05:49] <vortek_> ahh well its obvious a stock k7 kernel is not gona work so ill have to make a custom one
[05:49] <vortek_> :P
[05:49] <kirtis> benson, If you're trying to write to it, you can't ntfs is read-only by default.
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> benson: otheriwse, if you want to do it via fstab, under the options column, put ro,umask=0222,uid=benson,gid=benson
[05:49] <EasterSunshine> benson: and then unmount and remount
[05:49] <mark_> for some reason when I open a properties window, then change tabs, i get white stripes through the properties window
[05:50] <TylerE> Whats the proper way to install TTF fonts with ubuntu?
[05:50] <kirtis> TylerE, copy them to ~/.fonts/
[05:50] <darkheart> vortek_ Try disabling ACPI in your BIOS.
[05:50] <TylerE> kirtis: then restart X?
[05:50] <kirtis> TylerE, no need.
[05:50] <vortek_> darkheart, no option to do  that
[05:50] <EasterSunshine> benson: yes, unmount it first
[05:50] <ksmurf> !alsa
[05:50] <ubotu> somebody said alsa was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[05:50] <darkheart> vortek_ Ouch
[05:50] <vortek_> darkheart, the install kernel works though but its slow
[05:51] <vortek_> its generic 386
[05:51] <benson> ok so give me that sudo mount line again, say if i wanted it to mount to /mnt/drive?
[05:51] <mark_> could anybody help me with a weird display problem?  i have a screenshot
[05:51] <benson> kirtis:  I learned the hard way about writing to NTFS
[05:51] <EasterSunshine> benson: `sudo mount /dev/hdwhatever /mnt/drive -o ro,umask=0222,uid=benson,gid=benson`
[05:52] <EasterSunshine> benson: replace /dev/hdwhatever with teh proper partition, and benson with your username
[05:52] <zoexi> OK,  can someone recomend an alternative to GIMP for simple scanning with an Xsane compatible device?  I need to scan a large number of documents of equal size and save them directly to jpg format without editing/
[05:52] <EasterSunshine> benson: unmount first with `sudo umount /mnt/drive`
[05:52] <benson> sweet, your a god send, thanks man
[05:53] <Drewfus> ch107783 nothing
[05:53] <|Imp|> how do i reconfigure X from command line?
[05:53] <EasterSunshine> benson: np ^_^
[05:53] <|Imp|> dpkg something...
[05:53] <|Imp|> i forget what the command is
[05:53] <kirtis> |Imp|, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:53] <|Imp|> thankyou
[05:53] <mark_> hello?
[05:54] <c0rrupt_> www.nessus.org work for anyone?
[05:56] <Drewfus> can anyone help me with nvidia drivers?
[05:56] <EasterSunshine> Drewfus: have you tried the wiki?
[05:56] <EasterSunshine> Drewfus: most ppl come in asking that and find the answer on it
[05:57] <Drewfus> no i dont think so, i tried it the nvidia way but the installer cant find the kernel
[05:57] <mattyJ> isnt there a bot to throw out links for that
[05:57] <Drewfus> ill try thi wiki
[05:57] <mattyJ> !nvidia
[05:57] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:57] <vortek_> hrmm i got these debian sarge cd's
[05:57] <|Imp|> Drewfus, that is because you need the kernel headers
[05:57] <vortek_> ill just pull the source off them
[05:57] <cafuego_> Drewfus: sudo apt-get install module-assistant; sudo m-a
[05:57] <durt> Drewfus: install nvidia-glx
[05:57] <vortek_> as long as its not the .6.7 buggy acpi
[05:57] <mattyJ> lol like 5 people all told him different things
[05:58] <cafuego_> nvidia-glx isn't going to do much good without the kernel driver
[05:58] <james> how do I install dosbox?
[05:58] <cafuego_> Drewfus: Oh, you're running a precompiled kernel, right?
[05:58] <Drewfus> yeah
[05:59] <kirtis> james, sudo apt-get install dosbox, or search for it in synaptic
[05:59] <nalioth> cafuego_: how did you figure i was on dual-G4s?
[05:59] <cafuego_> Drewfus: enable the 'restricted' repository
[05:59] <nalioth> james: use synaptic
[05:59] <ksmurf> what is that command to save your alsa settings?
[05:59] <james> thank you
[05:59] <cafuego_> nalioth: brain damage
[05:59] <Drewfus> enable what?
[05:59] <nalioth> cafuego_: not dain bramage?
[05:59] <cafuego_> nalioth; I'm sure you'd told me before they were G5's.
[05:59] <durt> cafuego_: isnt it enable by default?
[05:59] <cafuego_> durt: No idea
[06:00] <ixiz> Goodmorning for somebody I guess :P
[06:00] <Drewfus> i did the apt-get and im in the module assistant but i dont know what to do
[06:00] <cafuego_> Drewfus: the restricted repository. Run 'apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules' - is there anything that matches your kernel version?
[06:00] <Drewfus> update?
[06:00] <ian_> is there a way to run an extension in firefox with out going to the menu of firefox? (example a softphone (mozphone))..
[06:01] <cafuego_> Drewfus: No, you don't need m-a if you run a precompiled kernel; there is a precompiled nvidia module for it.
[06:01] <user06> malang
[06:01] <Drewfus> i think so
[06:01] <kirtis> Drewfus, You're doing it the hard way.. easy way is sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, then open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia"
[06:02] <durt> Drewfus: listen to kirtis
[06:02] <ch107783> http://ubuntuguide.org/ hit ctrl +f and search for NVIDIA
[06:02] <ch107783> it will tell you ubuntu's way
[06:02] <cafuego_> Drewfus: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx'  - that will fetch the kernel and X modules.
[06:02] <cafuego_> Drewfus: Then run 'sudo /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config' to enable it.
[06:03] <Tribune> kb3 burning program can intall in ubuntu?
[06:03] <cafuego_> Tribune: yes
[06:04] <Tribune> sudo apt-get install kb3 ?
[06:04] <kebanting> tribune: yes ... use sudo apt-get install kb3
[06:04] <cafuego_> Tribune: yes
[06:04] <Tribune> thanks
[06:04] <nalioth> Tribune: actually its k3b
[06:04] <Drewfus> /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config called with unknown command:
[06:04] <Drewfus> Usage: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config [enable|disable] 
[06:05] <Drewfus> ?
[06:05] <kebanting> tribune: for install kb3 ..
[06:05] <cafuego_> Drewfus: /usr/sbin/nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:05] <XIII> hi, how could i clean up my dev from cached downloaded packages?
[06:05] <kebanting> opppss ... k3b i mean ....
[06:05] <cafuego_> sudo apt-get (auto-)clean
[06:05] <Drewfus> now do i go kill all and install drivers?
[06:06] <cafuego_> Drewfus: logout, hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:06] <Drewfus> yeah
[06:06] <kirtis> XIII, remove the stuff in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:06] <cafuego_> Drewfus: that should be all there is to it.
[06:06] <ksmurf> what is that command to save your alsa settings?
[06:06] <XIII> cafuego should i type it like that?
[06:06] <Drewfus> what about installing the drivers?
[06:06] <XIII> kirtis all of them?
[06:06] <cafuego_> XIII: No. either 'sudo apt-get autoclean' (this removed only OLD stuff, but leaves recent stuff) or 'sudo apt-get clean' (removed everything)
[06:07] <durt> ksmurf: um... i think alsamixer saves them automatically
[06:07] <Tribune> kebanting? are you from jakarta?
[06:07] <kirtis> XIII, actually probably better to do what the other guy said.
[06:07] <XIII> ok
[06:07] <XIII> thnx
[06:07] <ksmurf> durt most times but there is a command to save them
[06:07] <cafuego_> Drewfus: If you installed the linux-restricted-modules-VERSION package for yuor kernel, they'll be there.
[06:07] <durt> ksmurf, just hit q to exit and i think youre fine
[06:08] <Ahsan> hello
[06:08] <XIII> root@server:/home/sting # apt-get autoclean
[06:08] <XIII> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:08] <Ahsan> i wanted to ask something about the installation
[06:08] <Drewfus> i dont know if i did that
[06:08] <XIII> that's what i got
[06:08] <Drewfus> unless thats one of the things you told me to do
[06:08] <ksmurf> I've done that 15 times so far tonight and recompiled the alsa drivers....... I'm not fine.
[06:08] <bimberi> XIII: are you running synaptic?
[06:08] <kirtis> XIII, put an sudo in front
[06:08] <Ahsan> i downloaded the CD image of linux
[06:08] <cafuego_> XIII: make sure apt, synaptic or aptitude aren't running
[06:08] <ycomb>  I read not to update Breezy yesterday due to cairo-glitz being pulled upstream and thus gtk / gnome libs being rebuilt. Today update is trying to replace all the gnome / bonobo / cairo libs. Is it (relatively) safe to take these now?
[06:08] <Ahsan> and i burned it
[06:08] <Ahsan> but i m not able to install it properly
[06:08] <Ahsan> i read bout some installer
[06:08] <Ahsan> but i cannot seem to make it work
[06:08] <XIII> aha, thnx cafuego it's already in use, synaptic
[06:09] <cafuego_> ycomb: the trash applet and firefox are broken here
[06:09] <Ahsan> can anyone help me?
[06:09] <XIII> kirtis i always log as root in the terminal
[06:09] <ycomb> cafuego_: thx, that won't bother me at all :)
[06:09] <kirtis> XIII, yea i just noticed that.
[06:09] <XIII> :)
[06:09] <Ahsan> can anyone help me?
[06:09] <XIII> kirtis i can't run realplayer
[06:10] <XIII> it always says i've it installed but always doesn't run
[06:10] <Tribune> Ahsan.... what type of help?
[06:10] <Ahsan> can anyone explain me the steps that I have to take inorder to install the installer and to get my installation started
[06:10] <kirtis> XIII, what happens when you run it from a terminal?
[06:10] <XIII> never runs
[06:10] <Ahsan> i downloaded the linux ubuntu
[06:10] <kirtis> XIII, okay, but do you get an error..?
[06:10] <Ahsan> i burned the cd
[06:10] <DekaPink> Is there a way I can capture streaming video clips?
[06:11] <Ahsan> but when i boot my PC
[06:11] <XIII> yeah wait
[06:11] <XIII> root@server:/home/sting # realplayer
[06:11] <XIII> bash: realplayer: command not found
[06:11] <Ahsan> and use the BIOS for the computer to boot CD-ROM..it doesnt start
[06:11] <durt> Ahsan: you burned it as an image, right?
[06:11] <Ahsan> is there any special step that i have to take tTribune
[06:11] <Ahsan> yeah ISO image
[06:11] <cafuego_> why are you running everything as root?
[06:11] <Tribune> image iso.....
[06:11] <kirtis> XIII, well that just means that's not what the executable is called.. how'd you install it?
[06:12] <deFrysk> XIII, realplay
[06:12] <ksmurf> does anyone know the command to save your alsa settings?
[06:12] <ycomb> ahsan-what OS did you burn from
[06:12] <Ahsan> but it doesnt start..it says Boot disk failure
[06:12] <Ahsan> XP
[06:12] <XIII> deFrysk doesn't work too
[06:12] <XIII> kirtis i installed it by rpm
[06:12] <deFrysk> rpm ? !
[06:12] <kirtis> XIII, deFrysk was right, the command is realplay
[06:13] <deFrysk> remove it
[06:13] <XIII> how?
[06:13] <Tribune> r u using Nero Ahsan?
[06:13] <ycomb> ahsan: ok from within XP when you open the cdrom do you see a file called blahblah.iso?
[06:13] <Ahsan> yes
[06:13] <Ahsan> i m
[06:13] <deFrysk> rpm -e pakckage
[06:13] <XIII> kirtis even realplay doesn't work
[06:13] <Ahsan> i m using NERo
[06:13] <XIII> i used alien
[06:13] <Drewfus> i think i got the drivers in
[06:14] <Tribune> do you burn correctly with Nero?
[06:14] <Ahsan> waht I did is that i loaded the ISO image first thru daemon tools
[06:14] <Drewfus> is there any way i can use both monitors
[06:14] <zerboxx> Anybody here use waproamd?
[06:14] <Ahsan> and copied the exact CD in NERO when it says to burn Data Image.
[06:14] <deFrysk> apt-get remove --purge realplayer
[06:14] <Ahsan> and it burned just fine..
[06:14] <kirtis> XIII, well i never use realplayer, maybe try typing real at a command prompt and hit tab twice to see what the possiblities are.
[06:14] <Ahsan> it doesnt autoplay
[06:14] <ycomb> ahsan: the problem with that is that you won't get the bootsector
[06:15] <Ahsan> ooh k
[06:15] <XIII> kirtis ok
[06:15] <Ahsan> is there ne solution to it?
[06:15] <ycomb> ahsan: if you are using nero try this
[06:15] <Ahsan> ehem.?
[06:15] <durt> it might be :"realplay"
[06:15] <syx> i think its realplay
[06:15] <ycomb> ahsan: tell it to use nero express
[06:15] <XIII> there is no real even
[06:15] <hatake_kakashi> where is the default dns config for ubuntu? there is a certain executable binary or script that is constantly getting the wrong dns servers and I want to set my own dns servers and make sure that it sticks. Does anyone happen to know
[06:15] <XIII> just real VNC
[06:15] <Ahsan> ahaan
[06:15] <Ahsan> i see it..
[06:15] <XIII> the network tool
[06:15] <Drewfus> does anyone know how to use dual monitors?
[06:16] <ksmurf> does a tv count
[06:16] <ycomb> ahsan: What would you like to burn: "Disc image or saved project"
[06:16] <Drewfus> no
[06:16] <deFrysk> XII install realplayer from hoary-extras and remove the alieanated rpm
[06:16] <kirtis> XIII, well maybe it didn't install anywhere in your path.. look for it in /opt maybe.
[06:16] <deFrysk> XIII
[06:16] <hatake_kakashi> Drewfus, editing the Xorg config I believe, I however don't have experience in it
[06:16] <deFrysk> remove it
[06:16] <kirtis> XIII, actually yea the longterm solution is what deFrysk says.
[06:16] <Ahsan> and i just make a image file of it right then ycomb?
[06:16] <ycomb> ahsan: then in the file selction box change "files of type" to "Image files: (*.nrg, *.iso, *.cue)"
[06:16] <deFrysk> the rpm wont work XIII
[06:16] <XIII> deFrysk can u explain how could i do that?
[06:17] <deFrysk> apt-get remove --purge realplayer
[06:17] <ycomb> ahsan: select your iso file and go normally from there
[06:17] <Ahsan> gr8
[06:17] <Ahsan> saw it..
[06:17] <Ahsan> is there anything i need to follow
[06:17] <ycomb> ahsan: ?
[06:17] <Ahsan> or shud u just let me go with it..
[06:17] <Ahsan> its burning the image..
[06:17] <XIII> deFrysk then?
[06:18] <hitest> Hi Folks!  I'm running 5.04, everything is going well.  I'd like to upgrade to 5.10 without re-installing as I've got everything set-up well on my Ubuntu computers.  Is there a link or help site someone could please direct me to to show mw how to upgrade to the new distro in October without formatting my HD?  Thanks for your replies.
[06:18] <hatake_kakashi> anyone know how to adjust the dhcp script that is messing with the dns-servers that the dhcp server has provided?
[06:18] <kirtis> hitest, It's easy.. when breezy is released, do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:18] <deFrysk> XIII, ad this line to your sources.list : deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:18] <syx> hatake, smb.conf
[06:18] <Ahsan> Thanks a lot for ur help ycomb
[06:18] <ycomb> ahsan: this will put the exact bits in the iso image on your cd, including a small boot image located in a specified place on the CD to allow it to be bootable. You can google "el torito" to learn more. Once you boot with this cd, as long as your cdrom supports bootable cds, you will be in the installer.
[06:19] <deFrysk> XIII, then sudo apt-get update
[06:19] <kirtis> hitest, But that may not be seamless, so you might be better off reinstalling.. which is easier if you have /home on it's own partition btw.
[06:19] <hatake_kakashi> syx, isn't that supposed to be something related to samba config? anyway I will check it, thanks for the heads up
[06:19] <deFrysk> XIII, then sudo apt-get install realplayer
[06:19] <Xinex> http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver , can someone tell me what to do here?
[06:19] <jasoncohen> hitest, ubuntu is meant to allow distribution upgrades without having to re-install. You can also upgrade through synaptic by changing your sources from "hoary" to "breezy" and then installing all updates
[06:20] <syx> hatake: system, administration, networking    <- all in there
[06:20] <XIII> ok deFrysk
[06:20] <syx> xinex, exactly what it says ?
[06:21] <hatake_kakashi> syx, I did that way before, after a few moments the dns servers has been changed.. I want to know the originator, the one that is causing it. I tried adjusting the dhclient.conf but no go
[06:21] <ycomb> ahsan: NP, good luck
[06:21] <Xinex> I'm not sure what do do, syx
[06:21] <deFrysk> XIII, dont use alien again if possible java is also in that repo btw
[06:21] <syx> hatake, is your dhcp server giving your box the wrong address for dns ?
[06:21] <hitest> Thank you, kirtis and jasoncohen:-)  I appreciate that a lot!
[06:21] <syx> xinex, what do you want to achieve ?
[06:21] <hatake_kakashi> syx, yes, and that is why I want to set my own
[06:21] <Tribune> palm os can communicate with ubuntu?
[06:21] <syx> ok
[06:21] <Tribune> model zire31
[06:22] <hatake_kakashi> there is no way I can adjust the dhcp server, because it is beyond my reach..
[06:22] <ycomb> cafuego_: just FYI I accepted all the available updates and firefox / trash applet are still working. No idea why. I'll see if this goodness survives a reboot.
[06:22] <XIII> deFrysk ok
[06:22] <Xinex> syx, pm?
[06:22] <syx> hatake, you know i just had that, i manually set mine two minutes ago and they have changed back :)
[06:22] <syx> k
[06:22] <syx> hatake, looks like we got the same problem :P
[06:23] <hatake_kakashi> syx, yeah I had to keep doing it by hand.. I was looking at the cron daemon but it shoots off every minute or so, which is a bit slow
[06:23] <hatake_kakashi> syx, heh unfortunately :)
[06:23] <can-o-worms> someone gave me a nice link for building a kernel the debian way the other day which i seem to have lost... does anyone else have a nice link?
[06:23] <cafuego_> ycomb: i386?
[06:23] <syx> hatake, can you manually set your ip address
[06:23] <syx> hateke, that should disable it from using dhcp
[06:24] <cafuego_> !kp
[06:24] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, cafuego_
[06:24] <ycomb> cafuego_: yes - thinkpad x31 pentium m
[06:24] <hatake_kakashi> syx, doubt it, had a thought of that but the route may need to be edited
[06:24] <cafuego_> ycomb: ah, mind runs amd64
[06:24] <cafuego_> mine
[06:24] <cafuego_> the mind runs badly
[06:24] <kevman> ubotu keeps seems to be worried about those pesky windmills.
[06:24] <ubotu> kevman: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:25] <syx> hatake, your starting to get beyond me now. let me know if you figure it out :P
[06:25] <ycomb> cafuego_: ok I see - I'd love to get one to run 64-bit but it seems most distros still have issues, let alone unstable ones :)
[06:25] <kirtis> can-o-worms, well there's always this: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html
[06:25] <shamus> How do I make a folder into a .torrent on ubuntu?
[06:25] <cafuego_> ah, you know... :-)
[06:26] <XIII> and what about thiz office how can i get it to install while the source cd doesn't work?
[06:26] <deFrysk> XIII, what office ?
[06:26] <cafuego_> ycomb: I updated in order to get beagle; my imap mailbox was becoming FAR to unwieldy to search even with grep. (8-odd Gb)
[06:26] <hatake_kakashi> syx, will do heh :) I had a thought that this affects a couple other non highly configuratable distros as well... at least that it did happen on my rh8 box and I had a nasty trick that time which seemed to work for that distro but not sure about it now
[06:26] <XIII> thiz office from thizlinux.com
[06:27] <deFrysk> XIII, stop using external packages , or ask there
[06:27] <XIII> ah, ok, sorry
[06:27] <ycomb> cafuego_: yes it's always the pull of better software + more features vs everything working :)
[06:28] <syx> hatake, woudlnt it be easier to disable dhcp then manually set the rest, i reckon it would be easier, plus you get to learn how to do it manually :)
[06:28] <cafuego_> ycomb: well, to a certain point anyway
[06:28] <can-o-worms> kirtis: it doesn't have the bit about initrd
[06:29] <kirtis> can-o-worms, Oh yea, that thing.. /me shrugs.
[06:29] <cafuego_> woo, holland has awakeneth eh
[06:29] <kirtis> can-o-worms, Checked the wiki?
[06:30] <syx> now formy question :P, my box doesnt resolve the computer names on my network, i can only get to them by ip. Other boxes are winblows
[06:30] <can-o-worms> kirtis: no.. suppose that should be my next move
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> syx, yeah but that is just the beginning of the complex problem you see? :) it is for me.. I mean, theres alot of regulations that I am under and all sorts of different circumstances.. I would be happier if I can get dhclient or whatever it is to work properly rather than disabling it because the nature of the situation I am in
[06:31] <syx> hatake, i see what you mean :0
[06:31] <syx> *:)
[06:32] <PuGz> hey guys
[06:32] <PuGz> i am at uni usin slackware
[06:32] <PuGz> on my laptop
[06:32] <PuGz> my uni uses a vpn to get on its network
[06:32] <PuGz> i heard ubuntu has tools for that
[06:32] <PuGz> is that correct?
[06:33] <PuGz> it would need mppe support in the kernel, and some kind of pptp client
[06:33] <syx> try
[06:33] <syx> typing
[06:33] <PuGz> and pptp support in ppp
[06:33] <syx> it
[06:33] <syx> all
[06:33] <syx> on
[06:33] <syx> one
[06:33] <hatake_kakashi> heh.. uni on ubuntu on my uni friend's laptop.. which I am trying to set it up properly :S
[06:33] <syx> line :P
[06:33] <PuGz> syx: ok :P
[06:33] <deFrysk> syx, u set a poor example ;p
[06:33] <syx> y
[06:33] <syx> e
[06:33] <syx> a
[06:33] <syx> h
[06:33] <syx> :P
[06:33] <jasoncohen> PuGz, grr, trying to get PPTP support working in linux is such a pain
[06:33] <deFrysk> :D
[06:33] <PuGz> hatake_kakashi: you setting up vpn?
[06:33] <PuGz> i know!
[06:34] <hatake_kakashi> PuGz, not quite :) not there yet
[06:34] <PuGz> i have tried hard so far
[06:34] <Viziri> hmm, when i try to install new packages using synaptic package manager i get a warning about malicious hacking etc. Is there a way to automatically install software that is checked by ubuntu?
[06:34] <jasoncohen> i went with OpenVPN and never looked back. It's far more secure and much easier to setup- and definitely more expandable
[06:34] <hatake_kakashi> PuGz, I'm trying to solve the #@$@#!! thing with dhcp messing with the resolv.conf file
[06:34] <syx> can you atp-get install openvpn on ubuntu without any hassles ?
[06:34] <PuGz> jasoncohen: so you just need mppe in kernel and openvpn software?
[06:34] <ian> what is ubuntu calc application?
[06:35] <ian> what is ubuntu calculator application?
[06:35] <PuGz> hatake_kakashi: there is a way to set dhcp to not touch the resolv.conf file... if thats what your trying to do
[06:35] <deFrysk> ian, gcalctool
[06:35] <durt> tiemu ;)
[06:35] <deFrysk> I believe
[06:35] <cafuego_> YAAAAARRRGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!
[06:35] <deFrysk> ! gcalctool
[06:35] <PuGz> ian: or possibly xcalc
[06:35] <ubotu> deFrysk: Are you on ritalin?
[06:35] <cafuego_> One of the cats just exploded a blackbird in the office
[06:36] <ian> ok thanks!
[06:36] <ian> ok thanks a lot! i love ubuntu!
[06:36] <jasoncohen> PuGz, huh, openvpn uses TLS for handshake and AES, Blowfish etc. for the cipher. MPPE is crap
[06:36] <TheRaginAsian> ohhh man why must gstreamer blow the big one?
[06:36] <jasoncohen> PuGz, only use PPTP If you have to. It's inherently weak and insecure
[06:36] <mark_> hi, i have a (hopefully) quick sound card question
[06:36] <cafuego_> mppe is crap, BUT works byd efault on OSX and Windows
[06:36] <dbee> Hi, I've created a deb package from the j2sdk, but when I try to install it I get a 'error processing sun-j2sdk... cannot access archive: No such file or directory". Anybody got any ideas ? thanks
[06:36] <PuGz> jasoncohen: oh... so its completely separate from mppe and pptp? would it work with my uni vpn server?
[06:37] <jkindy> any good books to get on linux
[06:37] <jasoncohen> PuGz, i tried getting the pptp client to work on debian + mandrake and i never had luck even after building MPPE support into the kernel
[06:37] <jasoncohen> i don't know why
[06:37] <mark_> crimsun helped me disable my onboard sound card, but I changed motherboards and now want to use the onboard card.
[06:37] <jasoncohen> but i just setup an openvpn server which has support on XP & linux
[06:37] <TheRaginAsian> any way to get a rhythmbox-xine package?
[06:37] <PuGz> jkindy: Linux in a nutshell, version 4
[06:37] <jkindy> thanks
[06:37] <jasoncohen> PuGz, no- why do you need the uni's vpn?
[06:37] <mark_> i forget what config files i changed to do that
[06:37] <XIII> how can i get and setup some audio/video codecs?
[06:38] <PuGz> jasoncohen: to get on the net at uni
[06:38] <ixiz> are literal's just representation's of integers, and strings?
[06:38] <deFrysk> mark_, onboard sound on your new motherboard should be on by default
[06:38] <jasoncohen> PuGz, you need VPN to get on the internet? that's stupid
[06:38] <jasoncohen> for their wireless?
[06:38] <PuGz> jasoncohen: i am not trying to set up a vpn server... trying to connect to my uni's vpn server
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> jasoncohen, most likely for viability
[06:38] <PuGz> jasoncohen: yes
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> jasoncohen, yeah
[06:38] <jasoncohen> huh
[06:38] <Rangitoto> I am thinking of buying a computer which has a 700MHz Celeron and 128Mb RAM. Is that satisfactory for Ubuntu?
[06:38] <jasoncohen> hatake_kakashi, it's too bad only recent cards support WPA-PSK
[06:38] <mark_> deFrysk, thanks...  (hangs head in shame)
[06:39] <jasoncohen> and WPA enterprise
[06:39] <deFrysk> mark_, open alsamixer and see if you can get it to run
[06:39] <mark_> :)
[06:39] <kirtis> Rangitoto, Not really.  Get more memory.
[06:39] <jasoncohen> or 802.11i
[06:39] <deFrysk> and open the muted channels if it does
[06:39] <ycomb> XIII: there are a good number in w32codecs - see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:39] <XIII> Rangitoto yeah, it's enough
[06:39] <TheRaginAsian> Rangitoto: how much are you paying for that "monster" as well call it
[06:39] <mark_> deFrysk, it was muted...  god i feel retarded...  the video setup was tricky, so i expected sound to be ugly too...  but it works fine...  i am an idiot... :)
[06:39] <hatake_kakashi> jasoncohen, heh well, uni will do something else to compensate it I believe
[06:39] <Rangitoto> Kurtis: What is the minimum memory you recommend?
[06:39] <kirtis> Rangitoto, To elaborate, nearly any processor is fine, but you really want 256+ to be comfortable.
[06:39] <jasoncohen> Rangitoto, how much are you planning on paying? i spent $400 on a amd 64 3000+, 512 MB PC3200 DDR, 160 GB 7200 RPM seagate, DVD-RW dual-layer etc.
[06:40] <kirtis> Rangitoto, 512 is the sweet spot though.
[06:40] <PuGz> ok... so i need to use mppe and pptp to connect to my uni's vpn most likely?
[06:40] <jasoncohen> you can get a good machine for very little
[06:40] <jasoncohen> PuGz, most likely
[06:40] <dbee> Actually my mistake ... I have it now
[06:40] <PuGz> jasoncohen: ok
[06:40] <PuGz> jasoncohen: is there  pptp stuff in ubuntu?
[06:40] <jasoncohen> Rangitoto, 512 MB of DDR is under $50
[06:41] <TheRaginAsian> jasoncohen: yeah no shit, newegg it up
[06:41] <cafuego_> Rangitoto: I woudln't bother running Gnome or KDE with less than 256Mb.
[06:41] <jasoncohen> PuGz, pptp-linux is the client
[06:41] <cafuego_> Rangitoto: If you have less, consider a window manager like opebox or fluxbox (or maybe even xfce)
[06:41] <Rangitoto> I am actually buying the computer to get the Windows 98 licence. I will then put Ubuntu on the computer for my kids, one of whom is keen on Linux.
[06:41] <TheRaginAsian> yeah XFCE would work good
[06:42] <deFrysk> made someone feel like an idiot ... thats where this helpchannel is all about hehe :p
[06:42] <durt> but ubuntu itself is quite a bit slower than other distros
[06:42] <TheRaginAsian> but its like, the point to running XFCE is fast GTK but your still running a lot of GTK so... eh...
[06:42] <cafuego_> Rangitoto: *nod* what sort of specs does it have?
[06:42] <TheRaginAsian> durt: ill trade the speed I got in arch ANY day for not having to babysit my distro half as much
[06:42] <jasoncohen> TheRaginAsian, i'm just telling him that there's no reason to buy such a slow system with such little RAM at today's computer prices
[06:42] <jasoncohen> where is kernel-patch-mppe?
[06:43] <jkindy> how do i join a channel thats not listed?
[06:43] <XIII> deFrysk i finished setting up realplayer and as always it didn't work
[06:43] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: It's already in the ubuntu kernel sources
[06:43] <TheRaginAsian> whats mppe?
[06:43] <deFrysk> XIII, used the command realplay ?
[06:43] <TheRaginAsian> im just using 686
[06:43] <jasoncohen> cafuego, not for hoary
[06:43] <jasoncohen> cafuego, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mppe&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[06:43] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: hah
[06:43] <Rangitoto> cafuego: 700MHz Celeron, 128MHz RAM, 20Gb HDD.
[06:44] <ksmurf> cafuego thanks
[06:44] <XIII> deFrysk yeah
[06:44] <TheRaginAsian> Rangitoto: HOW MUCH BUDDY!
[06:44] <XIII> and it freezed
[06:44] <XIII> no errors even
[06:44] <cafuego_> Rangitoto: yeah, xfce or a *box WM
[06:44] <ksmurf> hey what's up with the java package?
[06:44] <cafuego_> Rangitoto: How much do they want for it?
[06:44] <TheRaginAsian> spill the price buddy then well let ya kno
[06:44] <KG2056> anyone know a light webcam viewing app that can record mpegs
[06:44] <syx> jkindy: type /join #channelname
[06:44] <jasoncohen> i don't see kernel-patch-mppe in my repos
[06:44] <Gazer> hi all ... somebody has Synaptics Touchpad on an Ibook G4 working with Breezy/XOrG ?
[06:44] <jasoncohen> i have universe enabled
[06:44] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: ubuntu-kernel-patches ?
[06:45] <TheRaginAsian> hey can someone throw me a link as to where to recommend packages?
[06:45] <ilba7r> what is the command line that run gnome sound mixer
[06:45] <Rangitoto> $160 New Zealand which would be very roughly US$80.
[06:45] <cafuego_> Rangitoto: *nod* seems about right
[06:45] <Drewfus> yay i got my dual monitors working
[06:45] <TheRaginAsian> yeah thats fair
[06:45] <Drewfus> at first i had them mixed up so when i moused over to the left it ended up on the right
[06:46] <jasoncohen> cafuego, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe doesn't even come up
[06:46] <jasoncohen> maybe it was removed
[06:46] <cafuego_> !find mppe
[06:47] <deFrysk> XII cd /usr/lib/realplay-10.0.4/plugins/
[06:47] <jasoncohen> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ppp_mppe.ko
[06:47] <K-Rich> i'm having a brain fart, what is the command i use to run for instance a compile, while i'm not logged in, ?
[06:47] <jasoncohen> ok, so you can just modprobe ppp_mppe
[06:47] <jasoncohen> you don't need that package
[06:47] <Rangitoto> If Ubuntu is installed on a computer which already has Windows installed will the two automatically be dual bootable?
[06:47] <kirtis> K-Rich, screen?
[06:47] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: according to ubotu ppp_mppe is in the precompiled 2.6.10-5 kernels
[06:47] <XIII> Rangitoto yeah
[06:47] <jasoncohen> PuGz left?
[06:47] <syx> Rangitoto: yeah
[06:47] <XIII> by Grub boot loader
[06:48] <TheRaginAsian> GRUB will do it up
[06:48] <K-Rich> kirtis: nope... its like '<the forgotten command> <program to run>'
[06:48] <jasoncohen> cafuego, so pptp works "out of the box" with pptp-linux?
[06:48] <hatake_kakashi> syx, you still there? I have found a solution for that same problem we had.. the solution came from pfredl from the linux chan.. he suggested that we should use "chattr +i".. so check in man pages! :D the file is not editable.. unless if it was done by superuser :D
[06:48] <Dingy> the ubuntu installer didn't detect windows XP so it doesn't appear in grub, does anyone know how to manually add it?
[06:48] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: yeah
[06:48] <jasoncohen> damn...it sure wasn't that easy in mandrake or debian
[06:48] <TheRaginAsian> im searching but I cant find anywhere to do it, does anoyone know where i go to recommend a package?
[06:48] <XIII> deFrysk then?
[06:48] <jasoncohen> cafuego, have you gotten it to work?
[06:48] <ilba7r> Dingy it detected windows xp but did not mount it you have to mount it your self
[06:48] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: yes, but i run it on Debian sarge, not on Ubuntu.
[06:48] <deFrysk> XIII, sudo rm swfformat.so
[06:49] <kirtis> K-Rich, at?  I really don't have a great idea of what you're trying to accomplish.
[06:49] <deFrysk> XIII, sudo rm swfrender.so
[06:49] <syx> hakate, k how the hell you do that :P
[06:49] <deFrysk> and try realplay again
[06:49] <Dingy> ilba7r, fair enough, how do I do that?
[06:49] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: So that's not highly useful for your cause ;-)
[06:49] <node357> hi people. ubuntu security updates available yet?
[06:49] <jasoncohen> cafuego, can you help PuGz set it up? I gave up on debian when i found openvpn
[06:49] <TheRaginAsian> well how about this: does render-accel have to be enable in xorg.conf in order to take advantage of nvidia driver?
[06:49] <jasoncohen> which i now run on my debian server and i have the client on my ubuntu desktop
[06:49] <syx> hakate, i see seems a bit of a dirty way to do it tho :(
[06:50] <XIII> deFrysk then?
[06:50] <deFrysk> thats it
[06:50] <ilba7r> Dimgy I guess you want it to be done automatically each time you boot in so you should edit fstab
[06:50] <deFrysk> try realplay again
[06:50] <hatake_kakashi> syx, you do it at the console.. run a root console and set your resolv.conf properly, once set add 'chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf' to it and that will stick it permanently :D
[06:50] <K-Rich> kirtis: i want to ssh into another system, tell it to compile, and log off the system, with it still compiling
[06:50] <XIII> ok
[06:50] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: the docs that come with pptp are really straightforward; set up a pptp server; configure it; poke hole in firewall; set up client (there are samples); run.
[06:50] <kirtis> K-Rich, nohup
[06:50] <|Imp|> K-Rich, use screen ?
[06:50] <syx> hakate, cool thanks
[06:50] <kirtis> K-Rich, Actually my original suggestion of screen is best
[06:50] <jasoncohen> cafuego, i never tried to setup a sserver
[06:50] <jasoncohen> *server
[06:50] <node357> guess not. figured i'd try
[06:50] <XIII> thnx, finally it works
[06:50] <XIII> :))
[06:50] <deFrysk> yw
[06:50] <jasoncohen> cafuego, i merely tried to connect to my XP pptp server from linux
[06:51] <jasoncohen> cafuego, when i moved the XP box to debian for mythtv it became a moot point
[06:51] <node357> why do you people ignore simple questions
[06:51] <kirtis> K-Rich, screen, then do whatever you want and do Ctrl-A-D (i think) to detach from the screen session then logout.
[06:51] <ksmurf> does anyone else have issue with having no fonts in firefox?
[06:51] <K-Rich> kirtis: nohup was it!!!! .... ummmm how do i use screen in this way... i've never used screen at all so i've no idea what to do with it
[06:51] <jasoncohen> node357, what's the question?
[06:51] <kirtis> K-Rich, then you can go back to it later and do screen -a to attach to it
[06:51] <ksmurf> I can't even use it
[06:52] <jasoncohen> ksmurf, what do you mean no fonts? you can't see anything?
[06:52] <ksmurf> pics i can see
[06:52] <hatake_kakashi> syx, I was checking in kernlogs for error but it seems to be none :D but oh well it sure is nice!
[06:52] <node357> jasoncohen, people couldn't get gpg signatures verified for security updates. i'm wondering if that's still a problem
[06:52] <node357> i had to ditch ubuntu and wait it out
[06:52] <ksmurf> underline links without the words i can see... but no text
[06:52] <jasoncohen> node357, when was this?
[06:52] <node357> a few days back.. 2, 3
[06:52] <syx> hakate, thats reall handy for all sorts of things :D
[06:53] <jasoncohen> node357, i never had that problem and i've been using ubuntu for several months
[06:53] <jasoncohen> node357, what server were you using?
[06:53] <kirtis> node357, apt-get update just worked fine for me so i'm guessing they worked it out.  This is on the canadian mirror though.
[06:53] <node357> not sure which server... whatever the default was
[06:53] <node357> Canada yeah
[06:53] <jasoncohen> node357, packages don't need to be verified. for example hoary-extras isn't and you can still install the packages
[06:53] <node357> ok, that sounds good
[06:53] <node357> ah
[06:53] <node357> <- not computer savvy
[06:53] <node357> so i could try again now
[06:53] <node357> kool :)
[06:53] <ksmurf> anyone...... I have no issues with anything but firefox that I know of
[06:54] <jasoncohen> node357, are you sure it was security updates?
[06:54] <jasoncohen> and not extras or backports?
[06:54] <node357> yes it was jasoncohen, updates with the default apt sources.list
[06:54] <jasoncohen> ksmurf, try purging and re-installing
[06:54] <Cardoe> jasoncohen: are you breaking your mythtv box
[06:54] <XIII> ok, thnx all, good bye
[06:54] <deFrysk> ksmurf, wat did you install before it happened ?
[06:54] <jasoncohen> ksmurf, "sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-firefox"
[06:54] <jasoncohen> ksmurf, "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[06:54] <jasoncohen> Cardoe, no- it's on debian sarge
[06:54] <TheRaginAsian> hey anyone?
[06:55] <TheRaginAsian> help me out right quick
[06:55] <node357> hi someone
[06:55] <hatake_kakashi> syx, hell yeah :D
[06:55] <Cardoe> jasoncohen: just giving you a hard time. later.
[06:55] <jasoncohen> node357, you can alwyas just say yes even if it isn't verified but that's odd
[06:55] <TheRaginAsian> im sure it does, but does RenderAccel need to be set to true in xorg.conf for me to take advantage of nvidia driver?
[06:55] <hatake_kakashi> syx, in the meantime, I will check in lsof to see if I can pick out which binary/script is causing the mess
[06:55] <node357> i was tempted, but it worried me is all
[06:55] <jasoncohen> node357, try the default servers
[06:55] <node357> it was the default
[06:55] <node357> lol
[06:55] <node357> that's what worried me
[06:55] <jasoncohen> node357, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[06:55] <Fabri> hello...i from argentina and i need help to set my wireless conection
[06:56] <jasoncohen> and http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[06:56] <drewfus> i hate to sound like an idiot, its obvious how new i am, how do i install something like a game
[06:56] <jasoncohen> node357, i remember the .us servers were screwed up. don't use the mirrors...just use the main servers
[06:56] <deFrysk> TheRaginAsian, all you need to do is sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:56] <node357> k jasoncohen, thanks much
[06:56] <ksmurf> mozilla-firefox: Depends: firefox but it is not installable
[06:57] <deFrysk> TheRaginAsian, then restart x
[06:57] <drewfus> how do i install an rpm?
[06:57] <deFrysk> drewfus, you dont
[06:57] <drewfus> crap
[06:57] <jasoncohen> ksmurf, oh- you're using backports
[06:57] <Fabri> hello ...anybody can help me?
[06:57] <drewfus> ubuntu cant use rpms?
[06:57] <node357> how about the 'alien' command for rpms.. evn tho it will probably break the apt system
[06:57] <ollimaha> moro
[06:57] <eepi> moro
[06:57] <ollimaha> mit kuuluu
[06:57] <jasoncohen> ksmurf, comment out hoary-backports in /etc/apt/sources.list or in synaptic
[06:58] <drewfus> what about tar or gz?
[06:58] <TheRaginAsian> deFrysk: I had to manually edit my xorg.conf in order to enable all the buttons on my Logitech MX500 mouse though
[06:58] <jasoncohen> ksmurf, you don't need backports for firefox and you're better off with the ubuntu version for security updates
[06:58] <deFrysk> drewfus, avoid alien , many packages do not work even with the use of alien
[06:58] <cafuego_> drewfus: You can convert the rpm to deb using 'alien'.
[06:58] <node357> tar xzf file.tar.gz, or tar xf file.tar ?
[06:58] <ollimaha> saatana homo
[06:58] <node357> lol
[06:58] <benplaut> GRRR, devs, GRRR for taking away Clearlooks-quicksilver!!!
[06:58] <ollimaha> eero on homo
[06:58] <TheRaginAsian> does "nvidia-glx-config enable" add Option RenderAccel to True?
[06:58] <drewfus> so dont use rpms period?
[06:58] <ollimaha> sime rulaa
[06:58] <deFrysk> TheRaginAsian, I rthought you talked about your videocard
[06:58] <node357> what's this about homo? as in milk?
[06:58] <ksmurf> still no good
[06:58] <deFrysk> drewfus, bottom line...yes
[06:59] <drewfus> what about tar.gz
[06:59] <node357> .debs rule
[06:59] <TheRaginAsian> deFrysk: hm?
[06:59] <cafuego_> ollimaha: Would you mind going and doing that somewhere else?
[06:59] <jasoncohen> drewfus, you don't use rpms. ubuntu uses debs and they are installed through synaptic or apt-get (or aptitude). synaptic is a nice graphical installer. it's easy to use and there are thousands of choices of packages. you won't be dissapointed.
[06:59] <ksmurf> it reinstall and nothing..... I'll restart and se if that helps
[06:59] <node357> tar.gz is like .zip
[06:59] <drewfus> how do i install those
[06:59] <deFrysk> drewfus, why not use the ubuntupackages ?
[06:59] <jasoncohen> drewfus, tar.gz is just a compressed file like a zip
[06:59] <Fabri> helppppppppppppppppp
[06:59] <jasoncohen> tar.gz's are probably package source if you're seeing them on a software site
[06:59] <TheRaginAsian> tar.gz is like .zip which is like .rar which is like .cab which is like .you-get-the-point
[06:59] <cafuego_> drewfus: If they're slack packages, you can again use alien on them.
[06:59] <drewfus> why am i limited to ubuntu?
[07:00] <DjKritical-> cafuego: was it you I was talking to last night trying to install ubuntu?
[07:00] <cafuego_> drewfus: Because, uh, you installed Ubuntu?
[07:00] <drewfus> so what can i do with tar.gz?
[07:00] <jasoncohen> node357, new users shouldn't be using alien
[07:00] <deFrysk> drewfus, cos u are using ubuntu perhaps ?
[07:00] <ollimaha> tuuks eero tn meil pelaa halo kakkost
[07:00] <ollimaha> siel on yks paha kentt
[07:00] <jasoncohen> node357, in 99.99% of the cases ubuntu has the package the user is looking or
[07:00] <jasoncohen> *for
[07:00] <drewfus> but id like to be able to use more linux files
[07:00] <cafuego_> ollimaha: We speak english here, thankyou.
[07:00] <node357> :/
[07:00] <cafuego_> None of that silly finnish.
[07:00] <jasoncohen> they should be using ubuntu packages. if they don't know how they should probably be building from source.
[07:00] <Fabri> helo....hello.....heloooo
[07:00] <deFrysk> drewfus, what program are you missing then so desperatly ?
[07:01] <drewfus> games
[07:01] <jasoncohen> lol, if they can't install from an ubuntu package they should use source- not an rpm
[07:01] <deFrysk> drewfus, what games ?
[07:01] <jasoncohen> but the first choice should be an ubuntu package
[07:01] <cafuego_> DjKritical-: Depending on when "last night" was...
[07:01] <TheRaginAsian> deFrysk: do you know if RenderAccel has to be added?
[07:01] <drewfus> the rpm i found is kind of a 3d tron
[07:01] <jasoncohen> ignore " if they don't know how they should probably be building from source."
[07:01] <yo2> hi
[07:01] <drewfus> 3d games
[07:01] <cafuego_> TheRaginAsian: RenderAccel apaprently has a memory leak
[07:01] <jasoncohen> drewfus, did you search synaptic?
[07:01] <jasoncohen> search in synaptic
[07:01] <benplaut> Fabri: just ask your question
[07:02] <TheRaginAsian> cafuego: eww that sounds nasty
[07:02] <jasoncohen> drewfus, ubuntu has armagetron
[07:02] <drewfus> so the packs in synaptic are all i can use?
[07:02] <drewfus> pretty much
[07:02] <TheRaginAsian> cafuego: so by memory leak you mean "dont enable renderaccel" lol
[07:02] <deFrysk> TheRaginAsian, honestly I do not thinks so but you can turn it on safely afaIk
[07:02] <jasoncohen> drewfus, armagetron, gltron, ktron etc.
[07:02] <drewfus> where?
[07:02] <ilba7r> anyone having troubles with realplay and firestarter?
[07:02] <yo2> hi ,,, i just install ubuntu .. but it never ask for a root password /// witch will be ?
[07:02] <cafuego_> TheRaginAsian: Nothing to endanger a 3 week uptime on a box with a lot of ram
[07:02] <ollimaha> floodit ovat persiist
[07:02] <jasoncohen> drewfus, system > administration > synaptic package manager
[07:02] <cafuego_> ollimaha: Hallo, ben je doof ofzo?
[07:02] <drewfus> yeah but where in there i dont see it under games
[07:02] <ksmurf> Damn thing still didn't work
[07:02] <ilba7r> seems firestarter blooking everyconnection from or too realplay
[07:02] <jasoncohen> drewfus, search for "tron"
[07:03] <deFrysk> cafuego, hartsikke
[07:03] <TheRaginAsian> say im not too worried about uptime, try it anyways? lol
[07:03] <Fabri> I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE WIRELESS CONECTION
[07:03] <jasoncohen> Fabri, no need for caps
[07:03] <drewfus> cool thanks a bunch
[07:03] <deFrysk> Fabri, and your CAPS not to forget
[07:03] <drewfus> so i can only use the programs listed in synaptic?
[07:03] <ksmurf> I saw something in the forums about others having issues
[07:03] <deFrysk> drewfus, as long as u need to ask questions here..... yes
[07:04] <jasoncohen> drewfus, if you don't see the programs i mentioned you need to add the universe source
[07:04] <ksmurf> I'll just download it and see if it's the package
[07:04] <jasoncohen> !ubotu tell drewfus about repositories
[07:04] <drewfus> i found them
[07:04] <drewfus> ?
[07:04] <Fabri> why nobody help me?
[07:04] <ilba7r> !firestarter
[07:04] <ubotu> ilba7r: I give up, what is it?
[07:05] <ilba7r> !info firestarter
[07:05] <jasoncohen> drewfus, ubuntu has over 16,000 packages if you enable all components
[07:05] <deFrysk> drewfus, make sure to have all the proper repositories set up and you have acces to a vast amount of thrilling packages ready to blow your mind </avocacy>
[07:05] <ubotu> firestarter: (gtk program for managing and observing your firewall), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 518 kB, Installed size: 2348 kB
[07:05] <cafuego_> drewfus: was there anything you wanted that's not listed?
[07:05] <drewfus> well i applied the package but where did it go?
[07:05] <adriyel> hola
[07:05] <jasoncohen> drewfus, 99% of software is in ubuntu and most likely everything you'll want or need
[07:05] <adriyel> g'night everyone
[07:05] <Dragon> hola
[07:05] <ksmurf> night
[07:05] <jasoncohen> if you need something else you can compile it
[07:05] <Fabri> adriyel......hola!!!!
[07:05] <drewfus> i think that should be good, i dont feel limited when there are that many to choose from
[07:05] <navilon> how can i save my color scheme and fonts for gVim?
[07:06] <drewfus> but now that its installed where is it?
[07:06] <jasoncohen> drewfus, you hit apply and then installed it
[07:06] <ilba7r> Fabri we all have troubles with wireless what is your problem
[07:06] <drewfus> yes
[07:06] <yo2> hi ,,, i just install ubuntu .. but it never ask for a root password /// witch will be ?
[07:06] <jasoncohen> it should now have a green box
[07:06] <deFrysk> ! sudo
[07:06] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:06] <deFrysk> ! root
[07:06] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:06] <jasoncohen> drewfus, look in applications > games
[07:06] <jasoncohen> drewfus, what did you install?
[07:06] <Fabri> ilba7r: Yes? why.....
[07:06] <drewfus> i dont see it
[07:06] <Fabri> ?
[07:07] <drewfus> the tron thing
[07:07] <yo2> thanks
[07:07] <jasoncohen> which one?
[07:07] <jasoncohen> there are several
[07:07] <drewfus> armagetron
[07:07] <jasoncohen> some of the universe apps don't have a menu entry
[07:07] <navilon> anybody wanna play a game of armagetron?
[07:07] <drewfus> and i got the common files and server
[07:07] <cafuego_> !dstats
[07:07] <jasoncohen> applications > run application and type "armagetron"
[07:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.
[07:07] <deFrysk> drewfus, install smeg if you wist to add it in the menu manually
[07:07] <ilba7r> Fabri just state your question perhaps we can help. And basically most wireless drivers are not native
[07:07] <drewfus> smeg?
[07:07] <ilba7r> !wireless
[07:07] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:08] <durt> !smeg
[07:08] <ubotu> somebody said smeg was a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[07:08] <jasoncohen> !tell drewfus about smeg
[07:08] <deFrysk> drewfus, ugly word nice package ;p
[07:08] <jasoncohen> drewfus, SMEG is very nice
[07:08] <durt> i love smeg
[07:08] <cafuego_> they're VERY nice stoves, thankyou :-P
[07:08] <nalioth> deFrysk: only ugly in america, i'd think
[07:08] <jasoncohen> it'll be included in breezy with gnome's menu editor
[07:08] <deFrysk> durt, in holland we dont ;p
[07:08] <jasoncohen> for now it's in backports
[07:08] <Fabri> i have a usb wireless.and i cant conect to my router...
[07:09] <drewfus> what if you put an a on the end of that, i wonder who would know what that is =)
[07:09] <drewfus> ma my bad
[07:09] <ksmurf> where would I get libxpcom
[07:09] <drewfus> armagetron works
[07:09] <ilba7r> fabri look at the link ubotu gave for wireless
[07:09] <cafuego_> deFrysk:  http://www.omegasmeg.com.au/
[07:09] <deFrysk> cafuego, dont dare to open it at this early hour
[07:10] <cafuego_> deFrysk: kitchen appliances
[07:10] <cafuego_> (no shitwhisking involved)
[07:10] <deFrysk> :D
[07:10] <TheRaginAsian> hmm... nevermind you guys were right I dont need to add the renderaccel option
[07:10] <TheRaginAsian> weird
[07:10] <TheRaginAsian> I always had to in Arch
[07:10] <nalioth> cafuego_: wtf?!
[07:10] <jasoncohen> drewfus, just add a menu entry with smeg or a desktop icon
[07:10] <deFrysk> cafuego, would never sell in holland hehe
[07:10] <cafuego_> nalioth: Hmm?
[07:11] <nalioth> cafuego_: "shitwhisking"?
[07:11] <drewfus> smegs website isnt working for me
[07:11] <jasoncohen> drewfus, unfortunately gnome 2.10 has no menu editor. breezy will have gnome's menu editor AND smeg
[07:11] <deFrysk> drewfus, install flash
[07:11] <cafuego_> deFrysk: Just to red dwarf fans or did something happen in the past 5 years that made it a bad word?
[07:11] <drewfus> when is breezy?
[07:11] <jasoncohen> drewfus, october
[07:11] <deFrysk> drewfus, oct
[07:11] <drewfus> cool
[07:11] <jasoncohen> oct 14th is the scheduled release date
[07:11] <Dragon> i can't wait
[07:11] <ollimaha> p kii
[07:11] <cafuego_> nalioth; painful cherman sex mit kitchen implements, ja?!
[07:11] <drewfus> its not flash it says connection refused
[07:11] <Dragon> still 2 more months
[07:12] <nalioth> cafuego_: if you say so
[07:12] <deFrysk> cafuego, put ma behind the word and do a search
[07:12] <cafuego_> deFrysk: <hehe>
[07:12] <jasoncohen> cafuego, thanks for helping me before with my clock going out of sync in sarge. I think the problem was APIC as you suggested
[07:12] <ollimaha>  /join 3helvettinhelvettiperkele
[07:13] <deFrysk> drewfus, ask your isp
[07:13] <drewfus> it looks like i got smeg from synaptic
[07:13] <TheRaginAsian> hey how do I get glxgears to report framerate?
[07:13] <cafuego_> deFrysk: /j #ubuntu-nl
[07:13] <drewfus> yeah it seems like an isp problem doesnt it
[07:13] <deFrysk> TheRaginAsian, enter it in your console
[07:13] <deFrysk> cafuego, righto ;p
[07:14] <TheRaginAsian> yeah I did it wont report my fps though
[07:15] <deFrysk> TheRaginAsian, in you console it shows the rates now
[07:15] <Fabri> !Wireless
[07:15] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:15] <TheRaginAsian> man page says that it outputs to stdout or something?
[07:15] <ksmurf> k it's definatly the firefox package and something I installed or upgraded tonight
[07:15] <TheRaginAsian> it wont show my my fps
[07:16] <ksmurf> I could install under my home account
[07:16] <TheRaginAsian> if I close it out it will just say "X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)."
[07:16] <bob2> TheRaginAsian: leave it running for a while
[07:16] <benplaut> f**k
[07:16] <TheRaginAsian> lol how long, it looks like its going real slow
[07:16] <benplaut> emacs is broken in breezy
[07:16] <TheRaginAsian> something must be wrong if its taking this long
[07:16] <deFrysk> it shows it every 5 secs if I am corrrect
[07:17] <drewfus> yay armagetron
[07:17] <cafuego_> deFrysk: the one i have in breezy doesn't anymore
[07:17] <deFrysk> nvidia works (again) in breezy :D
[07:17] <deFrysk> cafuego, true , no glxgears in breezy
[07:18] <cafuego_> deFrysk: yes, i have glxgears, but it doesn't show the framerate
[07:18] <TheRaginAsian> cafuego_: same here
[07:18] <TheRaginAsian> running... but no framerate
[07:18] <cafuego_> mesa-utils: /usr/bin/glxgears
[07:18] <TheRaginAsian> glxinfo says I have direct rendering enabled too
[07:18] <deFrysk> cafuego, in breezy I have no glxgears at all
[07:19] <Dragon> i have a quick question, which is better Fresh intallation of Breezy or upgrade from Hoary?
[07:19] <TheRaginAsian> deFrysk: I had to completely remove nvidia-glx and reinstall restriced-modules
[07:19] <bob2> Dragon: are yo usure you want to use breezay at all now?
[07:19] <Dragon> is there any cons about upgrading instead of freash installation ?
[07:19] <deFrysk> TheRaginAsian, nvidia-glx-config enable sets xorg up for nvidiadriver usage correctly for direct rendering is my experience
[07:19] <Dragon> bob2: nope
[07:20] <Dragon> bob2: not yet, i can wait till it is released
[07:20] <cafuego_> Dragon: Stick with Hoary, upgrade when Breezy is released.
[07:20] <bob2> Dragon: then either way, as long as you read the upgrade notes
[07:20] <nalioth> cafuego_: it does if you run it from the terminal w/o the trailing &
[07:20] <Dragon> cafuego_ : so.. i don't have to do a fresh installation? 'cause on WIndows, I always have to do a fresh installation otherwise I encounter problems after
[07:21] <nalioth> Dragon: this is not windows
[07:21] <Dragon> bob2: oh ic..
[07:21] <cafuego_> nalioth: Not as of 3 seconds ago
[07:21] <nalioth> Dragon: forget all that you know about windows
[07:21] <nalioth> cafuego_: strange
[07:21] <Dragon> nalioth: haha ok
[07:21] <bob2> Dragon: that is, you'll end up with the same system either way, as long as you read the upgrade notes
[07:21] <drewfus> dont get mad cause this is off topic but are there any good 3d games?
[07:21] <nate_> Anyone know a good easy to use program that you use to make games
[07:21] <Dragon> bob2: oh ok :)
[07:21] <nate_> ?
[07:22] <deFrysk> Dragon, deprogram yourself from M$
[07:22] <cafuego_> drewfus: Yep. tuxracer, bzflag, scorched3d
[07:22] <drewfus> thanks
[07:22] <Dragon> haha lol
[07:22] <deFrysk> njam in breezy is VERY good
[07:22] <Dragon> it's kinda hard to forget about Windows after using it for half of my life time;
[07:22] <cafuego_> njam?
[07:22] <deFrysk> exellent game
[07:23] <Dragon> thanks everyone
[07:23] <deFrysk> cafuego, since you are on breezy try it
[07:23] <saggytits> hey guys im having a problem im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop but it goes throught the begining of loading the install and just goes black
[07:23] <saggytits> any ideas
[07:23] <cafuego_> saggytits: try a bra
[07:23] <TheRaginAsian> LOL
[07:24] <deFrysk> cafuego, LOL
[07:24] <cafuego_> oh, about the laptop...
[07:24] <TheRaginAsian> saggytits: what version
[07:24] <cafuego_> saggytits: boot with fbdev disabled
[07:24] <TheRaginAsian> brb restarting X... k actualyl know what I need to go to be lol
[07:24] <TheRaginAsian> night all
[07:24] <saggytits> well ubuntu-5.04-install-i386
[07:24] <TheRaginAsian> ah that should work then... ill pass the torch
[07:24] <TheRaginAsian> nigth all
[07:25] <cafuego_> deFrysk: pacman!
[07:25] <saggytits> any ideas?
[07:26] <deFrysk> cafuego, yes :)
[07:26] <StrikeForce_work> cafuego_ saggytits: boot with fbdev disabled
[07:26] <saggytits> how do i disable fbdev
[07:26] <cafuego_> maybe pass video=vesafb:off
[07:27] <cafuego_> google will tell you the exact param; also check the F1-F6 help screens
[07:27] <StrikeForce_work> when you load it up and it comes up with the opening page theres a help section that'll explain how to do it saggytits
[07:27] <deFrysk> dog has to let me out , later folks
[07:27] <cafuego_> deFrysk: fetch teh stick!
[07:27] <saggytits> i cant load it up
[07:27] <deFrysk> njam!
[07:27] <saggytits> thats the problem
[07:28] <saggytits> i just hit enter
[07:28] <saggytits> it does its thing for like 2 seconds
[07:28] <saggytits> and goes black
[07:28] <jorgp> I am trying to recover a file from a floppy, but floppy has 2 i/o errors, any suggestions on file recovery?
[07:28] <cafuego_> saggytits: Hit F1- F6 INSTEAD OF enter
[07:28] <saggytits> ok
[07:29] <cafuego_> saggytits: it will explain about boot parameters, see if there is one pertaining to vifeo, specifically the framebuffer.
[07:29] <saggytits> ok
[07:31] <wolfie> hey i was wondering if someone could help me with something
[07:32] <nalioth> cafuego_: what is an easy way to get a 64bit gcc?
[07:32] <cafuego_> Wolfie: just ask
[07:32] <cafuego_> nalioth: get an amd64 and install 'gcc'
[07:32] <cafuego_> nalioth: you want  a64bit gcc for ppc?
[07:32] <bob2> getting a ppc64 toolchain will be fun
[07:32] <nalioth> cafuego_: sorry, i have a 64bit powerpc box
[07:32] <bob2> since you don't have a ppc64 libc
[07:33] <zerboxx> Is it possible to constantly search for wireless networks (instead of continuously entering iwlist...)???
[07:33] <cafuego_> nalioth: Yes, I know ;-)
[07:33] <cafuego_> nalioth: a dual 3 stage gcc bootstrap and a 3stage libc6 bootstrap would be the easiest way
[07:33] <wolfie> I have been trying to get it setup o my computer to be able to chat on yaho and on hotmail and it says that I need java plugins but downladed all the lugins and it says I still need them
[07:33] <cafuego_> nalioth:... and that easiest way is HARD.
[07:33] <nalioth> bob2: i found this, but am lacking the experience to make full use of it   http://kegel.com/crosstool/
[07:34] <nalioth> cafuego_: yes, i know the treble-chained build sequence
[07:35] <cafuego_> nalioth: I don't have access to the G5 iMac, apart from remote ssh into OSX, so I can't even experiment.
[07:35] <ksmurf> whay are the transcode and java pacages gone?
[07:35] <bob2> nalioth: toolchain-source probably has enough stuff to do it
[07:37] <nalioth> bob2: thx
[07:38] <squareyes> afternoon all, is it possible to generate a log file showing my dialup transfer rates per/5 seconds, for say 30 seconds?, something I can print out for my ISP
[07:38] <wolfie> used kynaptic and synaptic package managers and downloaded all the plugins for it and downloaded jre-1-5-0-01-linux-i5...
[07:38] <cafuego_> nalioth: that matrix has recorded kernel fail for evey ppc970
[07:38] <benplaut> there was a really cool feature in OO.org 1.1.x where you could zoom in/out your toolbars. anyone know where it is (is it) in OO.org 1.9.122?
[07:39] <benplaut> n/m
[07:39] <benplaut> found it
[07:41] <Viziri> I'm using the automate script for new users and get this - ERROR # 100 : There was an error in beep-media-player gstreamer0.8-mad w32codecs streamtuner xine-ui totem-xine installation.
[07:42] <deFrysk> automate script ?
[07:42] <nalioth> guess i'll wait on breezy
[07:42] <benplaut> check the forums
[07:42] <nalioth> toolchain-source has no rules for ppc64
[07:43] <benplaut> nalioth: wait for breezy?! breezy is now! :P
[07:43] <Viziri> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&page=1&pp=10&highlight=beep-media-player  - this is the script
[07:43] <nalioth> benplaut: not on my imac, it isnt
[07:43] <benplaut> ahhh
[07:44] <cafuego_> nalioth: You aware of any plans for a ppc64 Ubuntu flavour?
[07:44] <deFrysk> Viziri, maybe report the probs in that thread ?
[07:44] <nalioth> cafuego_: yes i am
[07:44] <cafuego_> ooher :-)
[07:44] <nalioth> breezy will offer ppc/ppc64 support
[07:45] <cafuego_> cool, I'm just about to boot colonly3 on this mac
[07:45] <nalioth> cafuego_: good luck
[07:45] <cafuego_> It's a B&W G3, at least the hardware will be COMPLETELY supported
[07:45] <bob2> nalioth: don't think breezy will make it much easier
[07:46] <nalioth> cafuego_: yes, there is that.
[07:46] <nalioth> bob2: won't breezy come with 64bit ppc binaries and such?
[07:46] <cafuego_> oh shit, they're going to mess with freenode
[07:46] <Dragon> what does that mean ?
[07:46] <IrcUser1> hello
[07:46] <Dragon> is this channel being closed for a while ?
[07:47] <cafuego_> Dragon: No, they'll be killing and restarting servers one by one
[07:47] <IrcUser1> anyone here used the deadmoo method to install os x86
[07:47] <IrcUser1> t?
[07:47] <Dragon> oh ..ic..
[07:47] <cafuego_> Dragon: I believe you can make lilo stop for around $1500
[07:47] <deFrysk> a week
[07:47] <cafuego_> that long?
[07:47] <cafuego_> I was thinking perhaps a day ;-)
[07:47] <deFrysk> :D
[07:48] <Dragon> lol
[07:48] <robert1123> hello all!! This is my first time intall a linux box and I had a question if u dont mind answering.
[07:49] <deFrysk> robert1123, dont ask to aks yust aks
[07:49] <ravs> Can anyone point me in the right direction as to what I should download to make a hoary boot cd for an iBook G3 500?
[07:49] <nate_> Name all the C++ packs I can get for Ubuntu through SYpatic manager. :D
[07:49] <nate_> Oh , please
[07:50] <robert1123> I am install mysql and I ran the script sudo apt-get install php4-mysql and i am getting an error message saying E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql
[07:50] <robert1123> how do i correct this
[07:50] <robert1123> ?
[07:50] <IrcUser1> question: I'm using Ubuntu Live and have mounted a USB hd.. my question is, what's the location fo that mounted drive?
[07:50] <IrcUser1> i.e /dev/desktop/drive/ ?
[07:51] <IrcUser1> I'm not familiar with the commands of linux
[07:51] <bob2> nalioth: don't think so, multi-arch (letting dpkg install packages from multiple architectures on the one machine) wont happen until breezy+1, afaik
[07:51] <IrcUser1> was suggested i use lspci, but that gave me specs
[07:51] <deFrysk> robert1123, open synaptic (sudo synaptic) and  and do a search for mysql and see what packages are available
[07:51] <robert1123> thanks
[07:51] <deFrysk> robert1123, as a new user it might be handy to use synaptic for package handling
[07:53] <Dragon> welcome back
[07:53] <deFrysk> :/
[07:53] <robert1123> defrys thanks. forgive my ignorance I am new to linux this is a learning project for me
[07:53] <nalioth> bob2: so when i install breezy ppc64, it's not really gonna be ppc64? (sorry i'm clueless)
[07:53] <bob2> there's a breezy ppc64 port?
[07:54] <robert1123> defrysk i am getting sudo: synaptic: command not found
[07:54] <cafuego_> robert1123: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[07:55] <robert1123> can u give that to me in command line? no gui.
[07:55] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: not afaik
[07:55] <deFrysk> robert1123, in case you do not have synaptic sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:55] <cafuego_> robert1123: You can't run synaptic without gui,.
[07:55] <nate_> anybody know of good C++ tools for Ubuntu
[07:55] <bob2> didn't think so
[07:55] <cafuego_> robert1123: In that case, sudo apt-get install aptitude; sudo aptitude'
[07:55] <bob2> nalioth: if there was one, it would be, but afaik that doesn't exist
[07:55] <bob2> and probably won't
[07:55] <cafuego_> nate_: 'rm'
[07:56] <bob2> nate_: to do what?  you mean a compiler?
[07:56] <tritium> hi bob2
[07:56] <nate_> Just like learning, writting small programs.
[07:56] <bob2> aloha, tritium
[07:56] <zerboxx> Is there a program which will constantly look at iwlist scan and display "visible" APs???
[07:56] <ksmurf> I'm upgrading to breezy but in the gnome mouse menu the is no open terminal..... can I put one in?
[07:56] <bob2> nate_: install build-essential, that will give you a compiler and such
[07:56] <bob2> zerboxx: kismet, netapplet
[07:57] <zerboxx> bob2: Use either?
[07:57] <bob2> zerboxx: they do very different things
[07:57] <nate_> I previously installed a C++ program, and a folder under applications came up named Programming
[07:57] <bob2> but you didn't really explain how you want to use it
[07:57] <bob2> if you want an applet, netapplet
[07:57] <nate_> I'm wanting a GUI, if thats possible,
[07:57] <nalioth> bob2: i'm crushed. i hadda earlier breezy disk with choices at the installer
[07:57] <bob2> nate_: you mean an IDE?
[07:58] <nate_> yeah.
[07:58] <nalioth> nate_: kdevelop
[07:58] <bob2> nalioth: sure, there are 64-bit kernels, and maybe libc, but that does not a port make
[07:58] <zerboxx> bob2: I'm really not sure, is an applet something in the gnome panel?
[07:58] <robert1123> ok that answeres that how do i search to see what mysql packages i have.
[07:58] <robert1123> from command line
[07:58] <bob2> zerboxx: yes
[07:58] <nalioth> bob2: but with a 64bit kernel and libc, isnt gettin a 64-bit gcc easier?
[07:58] <zerboxx> bob2: Since I'm not using gnome I guess kismet is my choice then :)
[07:58] <bob2> robert1123: have installed? "dpkg -l | grep '^ii.*mysql'"
[07:58] <ksmurf> is the a way to put "open Terminal" back in the gnome menu?
[07:59] <bob2> nalioth: yes, but I don't know if there is a 64-bit libc
[07:59] <nate_> after running apt-get install kdevelop, will I need to run anything else?
[07:59] <jasoncohen> this is strange. for some reason the gnome resolution tool won't allow me to select a higher refresh rate than 60 Hz. my LCD supports 1280x1024@ 75
[07:59] <bob2> zerboxx: you could just explain what you want to do with it...
[07:59] <bob2> nate_: if you're using GNOME anjuta is probably a better choice
[07:59] <jasoncohen> i entered the horizontal and vertical refresh as 30-80 and 60-85
[07:59] <nate_> apt-get install anjuta?
[08:00] <jasoncohen> but it gives 60 as the only option for every resolution
[08:00] <nate_> WTF?
[08:00] <cafuego_> nate: Freenode is getting a software update
[08:00] <Dragon> server restarted
[08:00] <zerboxx> bob2: Well I'd like an easy way to see visible networks to then connect to them (I go between school and 2 houses all with wireless) without the confusion of going into iwlist/ifconfig etc
[08:00] (Dragon/#ubuntu) cooool
[08:02] <zerboxx> geez I guess the netsplits are getting both sides
[08:02] <benplaut> what the hell?
[08:02] <benplaut> this one is really bad...
[08:02] <zerboxx> I'd say, got me twice
[08:02] <cafuego_> Hmmm.
[08:02] <_frank> they restarted a server or something
[08:02] <zerboxx> bob2: Well I'd like an easy way to see visible networks to then connect to them (I go between school and 2 houses all with wireless) without the confusion of going into iwlist/ifconfig etc
[08:02] <benplaut> yeah
[08:03] <bob2> they're replacing the ircds
[08:03] <deFrysk> ok now who is flooding her ? ;p
[08:03] <cafuego_> _frank: they're restarting ALL servers
[08:03] <nalioth> not too nice for conversations
[08:03] <nalioth> jasoncohen: you'll need to do the dpkg-reconfigure dance for your video
[08:03] <benplaut> there goes my 1000 line log...
[08:03] <bob2> zerboxx: netapplet is nice then, or whatever xfce/kde equivalent
[08:03] <nate_> bob2: what was the name of the compiler you recommended? Anjunta?
[08:03] <volvoguy> did the internet just die, or was it just me?
[08:03] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i've already done so
[08:03] <bob2> nate_: it's not a compiler, it's an IDE
[08:03] <jasoncohen> nalioth, and i used the advanced setting to manually set the horizontal and vertical refresh
[08:03] <benplaut> volvoguy, freenode restarting servers
[08:03] <robert1123> bob2: I dont see php4-mysql in the list so does how do I get it
[08:03] <nate_> thats, what I meant
[08:03] <nalioth> jasoncohen: sorry im late, was rudely disconnected
[08:03] <bob2> nate_: the only useful, common compiler on Linux is gcc
[08:03] <robotgeek> is there a Network Manager channel anywhere?
[08:04] <jasoncohen> nalioth, the gnome tool seems to be ignoring my vertical refresh settings. it will only let me use 60 for any resolution when i can use 75 @ any res
[08:04] <ezsquirt> does anyone use roor-portal here ?
[08:04] <_frank> bob2: isn't there a intel compiler for linux as well?
[08:04] <nate_> I meant the IDE, whats it called and can I get it through apt-get?
[08:04] <jasoncohen> nalioth, yeah, i was disconnected as well
[08:04] <bob2> robotgeek: if there was, it'd be on irc.gnome.org
[08:04] <bob2> _frank: sure, but it's not common
[08:04] <robotgeek> bob2: thanks
[08:04] <volvoguy> benplaut, interesting. comcast did something too. i lost my IP addess and couldn't renew the DHCP for a few minutes.
[08:04] <bob2> robert1123: well, it's there; perhaps you didn't enable universe in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:04] <benplaut> volvoguy, who knows...
[08:05] <robert1123> bob2: how do I do that from cmd. Ubuntu only showed from a gui stand point
[08:05] <jtan325> oh man
[08:05] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i'm not sure why it's doing this. it worked fine with my CRT
[08:05] <jtan325> the joins just keep flowing
[08:05] <bob2> robert1123: I don't know what those sentences meant
[08:05] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i'm using a 19" LCD with DVI input
[08:06] <nate_> bob2: Is it called Anjunta? Can I get it through apt-get?
[08:06] <bob2> robert1123: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to enable universe, tho
[08:06] <robotgeek> nate_: anjuta
[08:06] <jasoncohen> nalioth, it doesn't really matter as 1280x1024 @60 is recommended and looks great. I was just wondering why it's doing this
[08:06] <bob2> nate_: anjuta, yes
[08:06] <nate_> Thank you, bob2, robotgeek
[08:07] <benplaut> jtan325, no kidding
[08:07] <benplaut> we were at about 490, so 60 more to go
[08:07] <jasoncohen> anyone else having difficulty setting the max refresh rate on an LCD monitor"
[08:07] <volvoguy> anyway... i moved my one linux software raid drive to the other ide bus and it changed from hdb to hdc. i booted a live cd, assembled the array, mounted it and changed the setting in mdadm.conf, but upon reboot it was still looking for hdb. where else might i need to reconfigure things to look for hdc instead of hdb?
[08:07] <robotgeek> jasoncohen: LCD monitors have a refresh rate?
[08:08] <jasoncohen> vertical refresh
[08:08] <bob2> yo Husk
[08:08] <robotgeek> jasoncohen: okay, if you say so :)
[08:08] <jasoncohen> or vertical frequency
[08:08] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: yuou don't need to specify refreshs etting for LCD screens in X.
[08:08] <jasoncohen> robotgeek, they don't?
[08:08] <jasoncohen> cafuego, why?
[08:08] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: They run at 60Hz
[08:09] <jasoncohen> cafuego, is there an advantage to running at 75?
[08:09] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: When you run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and it asks if you have an LCD, just say yes.
[08:09] <jasoncohen> cafuego, yeah, that's been done
[08:09] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: No, that setting doesn't apply to LCDs. It's like enabling DMA on a scsi disk or asking what blue sounds like.
[08:10] <jasoncohen> oh, i didn't realize that- sorry
[08:14] <Whistler> how do i remobe dir?
[08:14] <Whistler> from teminal?
[08:14] <bimberi> Whistler: rmdir
[08:14] <Whistler> oh
[08:14] <Whistler> thx
[08:15] <bimberi> Whistler: rm -rf <dir> (if it's not empty, use with care :) )
[08:15] <cafuego_> Well, there's something. Can't use md on PPC unless you have  an msdos disklabel.
[08:16] <jasoncohen> cafuego, that's strange. i ran through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again and it never asks if i have an LCD
[08:17] <jasoncohen> cafuego, what question were you referring to?
[08:17] <imsick> hello
[08:17] <imsick> i need some help
[08:17] <imsick> anyone?
[08:17] <robertbb> What's the apache directive for allowing directory listings?
[08:17] <robertbb> One that works in a .htaccess file
[08:18] <tritium> imsick, just ask your question
[08:18] <imsick> thanks tri
[08:18] <cafuego_> Options +Indexes
[08:18] <deFrysk> first ask if you can ask to ask
[08:18] <imsick> i have an mp3 file
[08:18] <imsick> how do i get the codec
[08:18] <robertbb> cafuego: Thank you :-)
[08:18] <imsick> and what player should i use
[08:19] <jasoncohen> cafuego, i went through it once again. it never asks if i have an LCD.
[08:19] <imsick> i also need help re: div x files
[08:19] <cafuego_> Where do I send the breezy ppc bug reports?
[08:19] <deFrysk> ! mp3
[08:19] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:19] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg'
[08:21] <robert1123> bdb2: I am getting this when I enter edit /etc/apt/sources.list ' Warning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*" Error: no "edit" mailcap rules for type "application/"
[08:21] <robert1123> bob2
[08:21] <bob2> use an actual editor
[08:21] <bob2> e.g. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <robert1123> ohhhh!!!
[08:21] <robert1123> duh!!!
[08:21] <robert1123> thanks
[08:21] <deFrysk> nano -w for wrapping long lines
[08:22] <jasoncohen> cafuego, i still don't see the option. after choosing resolutions it asks if i want to use simple, medium, or adanced modes for setting the monitor specs. i chose medium and used 1280x1024@ 60 Hz
[08:25] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: shoulda chosen simple
[08:25] <volvoguy> since everyone is pretty much back, i'll ask again....
[08:25] <volvoguy> anyway... i moved my one linux software raid drive to the other ide bus and it changed from hdb to hdc. i booted a live cd, assembled the array, mounted it and changed the setting in mdadm.conf, but upon reboot it was still looking for hdb. where else might i need to reconfigure things to look for hdc instead of hdb?
[08:25] <ElvenProgrammer> my cdrom drive is borken, it reads only for some minutes then it stops, is there an installation cd which only copies basic files then continue using internet?
[08:26] <nalioth> cafuego_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, i believe
[08:26] <jasoncohen> cafuego, simple just gives several sizes - up to 14, 15, 17, 19-20, 21
[08:26] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: hmm, odd
[08:26] <jasoncohen> cafuego, coudl it be because i'm using DVI input?
[08:27] <jasoncohen> or should it ask regardless of the monitor or input
[08:27] <cafuego_> jasoncohen: no, X wouldn't know about VDI vs VGA
[08:27] <nicholaspaul> hello you beautiful people, you :)
[08:28] <nicholaspaul> is the resident php expert around ? i have a question.....
[08:28] <bob2> best to just ask your question
[08:29] <nicholaspaul> oh alright :) I have a test.php file in the apache folder that isnt parsing . what could be up?
[08:29] <bob2> more details
[08:29] <bob2> e.g. what version of apache, which php package you installed...
[08:30] <nicholaspaul> ok bob2 - Apache2, php4, Hoary. Thursday afternoon , i havent been drinking.
[08:30] <onkarshinde> IMHO while creating new user, in user profiles, default group for 'Desktop User' should be users and not $user. Any opinion about this?
[08:30] <nalioth> wow that was a rush
[08:30] <bob2> nicholaspaul: libapache2-mod-php4
[08:30] <volvoguy> bob2, nicholaspaul just used synaptic to install php4 (which pulls apache2 in as a dependency i think).
[08:30] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: vi /etc/adduser.conf
[08:30] <nicholaspaul> the file is simply <? phpinfo(); ?> bob2
[08:30] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: You cna edit the suer you just did using the 'visudo' command.
[08:30] <jasoncohen> cafuego, this is in hoary btw
[08:30] <nicholaspaul> yea bob2 i got that file
[08:30] <bob2> nicholaspaul: install that package
[08:30] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: Did you enable short_open_tags ?
[08:31] <nicholaspaul> cafuego__ no, how do i do that?
[08:31] <bob2> nicholaspaul: it's not a file, it's a package
[08:31] <onkarshinde> cafuego_: I know I can edit it. I am saying that this should be default. What is the meaning to create new group for every user by default.
[08:31] <nicholaspaul> yea bob2 its installed .
[08:31] <bob2> volvoguy: the php4 package doesn't have a DSO for apache2
[08:31] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: check /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini
[08:31] <bob2> nicholaspaul: and you read it's README.Debian?  apache2's log says the php module is loaded?
[08:32] <nicholaspaul> thx cafuego__ i'll check
[08:32] <nicholaspaul> bob2 - i havent read that readme..
[08:32] <ElvenProgrammer> or maybe you can tell me how to go on with installation using network...
[08:32] <bob2> the log is the important bit
[08:33] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: yes, i realise that. This is why i told you about adduser.conf
[08:33] <onkarshinde> cafuego_: should I log a bug for it?
[08:33] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: the 'new group for each user' is just normal policy; easy on a multi-user desktop system (perhaps not so on a large mainframe, but then that's notreally what ubuntu is for)
[08:33] <cafuego_> onkarshinde: No, it's a feature.
[08:34] <Rimu> hi all
[08:34] <Rimu> i am considering installing ubuntu on a second hard disk
[08:34] <nicholaspaul> thx cafuego__ i'll check : it says short_open_tag = On
[08:34] <Rimu> the wiki only talks about how to install it on an existing disk
[08:35] <Rimu> does anyone have links to an article i should read?
[08:35] <bob2> use the normal installer
[08:35] <nalioth> Rimu: are both disks in the same machine at the same time?
[08:35] <bob2> select second disk at the partitioning stage
[08:35] <bob2> enjoy!
[08:35] <Rimu> there are a million "how to dual boot linux" web sites, they all say different things :(
[08:35] <Rimu> yes
[08:35] <bob2> ignore them all
[08:35] <nicholaspaul> bob2 - -where's the apache2 log?
[08:35] <nalioth> Rimu: bob2 gave you the answer
[08:36] <Rimu> hmm
[08:36] <Rimu> yeah..
[08:36] <bob2> nicholaspaul: /var/log/apache2/error.lgo
[08:36] <volvoguy> Rimu, the installer can handle everything for you. the bootloader should see your other operating system and automagically add it.
[08:36] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: Then you need to make sure php4 is enabled and the your browser isn't caching the incorrect file
[08:36] <Rimu> that's how it should be! :D
[08:36] <nicholaspaul> enabled in the browser, cafuego__ ?
[08:36] <nicholaspaul> checking now, bob2
[08:37] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: How on earth would run run a php4 module in a BROWSER?
[08:40] <zerboxx> Is there a place that documents what will be available in breezy?
[08:40] <nicholaspaul> eh, cafuego__ ?
[08:40] <nicholaspaul> i'm just trying to open a php file in a browser..
[08:40] <Rimu> you need a web server
[08:40] <nicholaspaul> oh i gots a browser:D
[08:40] <volvoguy> nicholaspaul, php is processed on the server, not the browser.
[08:40] <Rimu> the web server interprets PHP and spits out HTML, which browsers can handle
[08:40] <bimberi> !breezy
[08:40] <ubotu> hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[08:40] <nicholaspaul> yea.. i know..
[08:40] <nicholaspaul> :D
[08:42] <onkarshinde> I have one NTFS partition mounted as read only (default in fstab). I want that when I copy something from this drive to ubuntu partition it should have access permissions 644 for whoever copied the file. How do I achieve this?
[08:42] <benplaut> ubotu forget breezy
[08:42] <ubotu> i forgot breezy, benplaut
[08:42] <nicholaspaul> volvoguy, i use the ubuntu apache the same way the OSX apache - i have a link to the folder, then click on a site folder to open it - usually its index.php.
[08:42] <benplaut> ubotu breezy is hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[08:42] <ubotu> benplaut: okay
[08:42] <benplaut> oops
[08:42] <Rimu> chmod 644 <filename>
[08:43] <nicholaspaul> bob2, what am i looking for in that log file?
[08:43] <Rimu> you should also be able to change the access permissions by right-clicking on the file and going 'properties'
[08:43] <bob2> a mention of php
[08:43] <Rimu> anyway, gotta run. thanks for the help
[08:44] <Madpilot> benplaut: you don't have to always do the forget thing with ubotu - try "ubotu, no, <foo> is <new blurb>"
[08:44] <benplaut> ahh
[08:44] <benplaut> thanks
[08:44] <onkarshinde> Rimu: I know how chmod works. I want to do it automatically for any file copied from this particular partition.
[08:45] <dabar> hi
[08:45] <benplaut> hi
[08:45] <nicholaspaul> bob2 - [Wed Aug 24 22:58:41 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) configured -- resuming normal operations
[08:45] <bob2> no php then
[08:45] <dabar> I was wondering, to send an email, to my user name, on my computer(by IP, or dynamic DNS...) do I need an email server installed?
[08:46] <bob2> of course
[08:46] <dabar> right.
[08:46] <bob2> that's what an MTA does
[08:46] <dabar> Cause you can use internal email for user names.
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> oh... dammit .. hold on bob2
[08:46] <dabar> I think.
[08:46] <volvoguy> man. i don't remember having to configure anything to get php/apache working. :-|
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> bob2 - [Thu Aug 25 17:21:15 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4.1 configured -- resuming normal operations
[08:46] <bob2> dabar: you need a mta for that
[08:46] <dabar> Is that not installed by default?
[08:46] <bob2> installing libapache2-mod-php4 is usually enough
[08:46] <bob2> dabar: postfix is installed by default, but only listens on localhost
[08:47] <nicholaspaul> thats ok, volvoguy, i didnt have to configure my wifi, or scanner, or digital camera :) i'm getting off lightly
[08:47] <dabar> ok, great, I will look into it, should I read some manual?
[08:47] <bob2> dabar: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[08:47] <bob2> tell it to be an internet site with smarthost
[08:47] <dabar> nicholaspaul: thats ok, youll have to configure a friends computer soon, and all heck will break loose on you:P
[08:47] <bob2> point it at your isp's mailserver
[08:48] <nicholaspaul> dabar - noooooooo !!!!
[08:48] <dabar> Why my ISP again?
[08:48] <bob2> allow it to receive mail on port 25 by configuring your router or whatever
[08:48] <bob2> dabar: because people sending mail directly from their home dsl/cable get mail dropped on the floor
[08:48] <volvoguy> i'm to blame for introducing Linux to nicholaspaul. ubuntu is to blame for making most everything so easy. :)
[08:48] <nicholaspaul> volvoguy is my hero!!!
[08:48] <dabar> I am not sure I understand that last part, sorry.
[08:49] <volvoguy> it was sarcasm. sorry. :)
[08:49] <nalioth> dabar: you need to to let postfix see your ISPs mail server otw, you may be mail-less
[08:49] <nicholaspaul> not from me, volvoguy :)
[08:49] <bob2> dabar: you send outgoing mail via your ISP, who then sends it on for you
[08:49] <dabar> kk.
[08:50] <dabar> brb when I test some stuff.
[08:50] <bob2> dabar: lots of people refuse mail that comes directly from people's dsl connections because the vast vast vast vast majority is spam
[08:50] <damsko> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1626
[08:50] <dabar> ah, yeah, even other ISPs, and such.
[08:50] <damsko> someone know what i have to do?
[08:50] <nalioth> bob2: 4 'vasts' isn't a lot of spam <grin>
[08:50] <bob2> I was always philisophically opposed to blocking mail from dialup people
[08:51] <bob2> but it would cut out so so so so much spam
[08:51] <bob2> nalioth: hah
[08:51] <onkarshinde> I installed Hoary (custom HP laptop version) yesterday on an HP laptop which is not listed on the custom page. Whom should I mail for it?
[08:51] <volvoguy> i have to configure my local linux mail server to send mail to my big colocated machine before it goes out to the public. lots of people don't accept mail from comcast cable modems.
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: I'm not opposed to blocking everything from dialup people :)
[08:51] <nicholaspaul> 'when life gives you spam, get some eggs'
[08:51] <bob2> hah
[08:52] <dabar> heh, this is so not gonna work; )
[08:52] <nalioth> dabar: nah, it'll work great
[08:52] <bob2> I've stopped 90 spams from hitting my inbox in the past 8 hours using rbls and greylisting
[08:52] <dabar> No, I mean, my setup...
[08:52] <bob2> dabar: it will work fine unless your isp is shit and blocks incoming port 25
[08:53] <dabar> no, no, my decisions during the setup had to have been wrong.
[08:53] <imsick> thanks tri
[08:53] <imsick> i can play the mp3 file now
[08:54] <bob2> rerun the command again
[08:54] <damsko> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1626
[08:54] <dabar> Could I ask you guys as to how to go through it, after I make sure it did not work?
[08:54] <damsko> someone know what i have to do?
[08:54] <volvoguy> i'm going to try rephrasing my software raid question again. :) i moved half the raid to a different ide bus and changed mdadm.conf to reflect that change. when i boot though (/boot is on a non-raid partition) it's still looking for the second disk in the original position. where else might i need to reconfigure it?
[08:54] <dabar> dont ask to ask...
[08:55] <bob2> damsko: there are no errors in that output
[08:55] <bob2> the warnings are there because the cdrecord author is an utter crackpot
[08:56] <nalioth> bob2: if i want a full-on 64bit ppc linux, am i gonna have to follow the lfs method?
[08:56] <damsko> lol
[08:56] <benplaut> bob2: i couldn't agree more
[08:56] <benplaut> how to i connect/log into a windows domain?
[08:56] <nicholaspaul> bob2 - if all is well, so far, do you know where else i should look to make this darn php thingy work?
[08:57] <bob2> nalioth: why do you want a full 64-bit ppc system?
[08:57] <bob2> damsko: no, seriously
[08:57] <nalioth> bob2: because i've got 64bit processors
[08:57] <cafuego_> colony3 ppc did poo
[08:57] <benplaut> (flag me, i'm not actively watching)
[08:57] <bob2> cdrecord doesn't work without warnings unless you're like on solaris with a scsi cd writer
[08:57] <dabar> mine did not install on a i386, cafuego.
[08:57] <bob2> benplaut: depends what you want to do in it
[08:57] <dabar> Can not install the base system at all, get a red screen.
[08:58] <dabar> of DEATH!:) heh, sorry.
[08:58] <cafuego_> dabar: Honestly, who gives a crap about i386?
[08:58] <bob2> nicholaspaul: well, it's working; what is your test file called?
[08:58] <benplaut> bob2: log in and have a roaming profile, like the windows clients can (and the macs used to)
[08:58] <nicholaspaul> testphp.php
[08:58] <dabar> It would appear that apple does now...
[08:58] <bob2> nalioth: right, and are you sure ppc64 binaries work faster?
[08:58] <benplaut> ie, log in via GDM, etc
[08:58] <damsko> i cant make it burn the cd T___T
[08:58] <bob2> benplaut: PAM will let you login
[08:58] <benplaut> PAM, thansk
[08:58] <benplaut> i'll look into it
[08:58] <bob2> benplaut: I don't know what a "roaming profile" would do on linux
[08:59] <nalioth> bob2: <sigh>
[08:59] <bob2> damsko: so show the entire output of it, including your command line
[08:59] <dabar> Do I then check the /var/mail folder after I send to myUSer@myDomain?
[08:59] <benplaut> bob2: all your files and settings travel with you when you log in
[08:59] <nicholaspaul> bob2: its called testphp.php
[08:59] <bob2> nalioth: but if yo ureally decide it's a good idea, you'd need something other than ubuntu, yes
[08:59] <damsko> wait it is working
[08:59] <damsko> :D
[08:59] <bob2> nalioth: it's likely slower in general, tho
[08:59] <durt> holy cow the packs in the ubuntu breezy repositories are fudged up, tilp doesnt work, bzflag doesnt work, whereas the debian packs work normally
[08:59] <damsko> i love you :*
[08:59] <Thunder000> is there a way to upgrade from debian to breezy ?
[09:00] <bob2> dabar: no, "tail -f /var/log/mail.log", then send yourself mail
[09:00] <benplaut> Thunder000: how borked a system do you mind having?
[09:00] <bob2> dabar: but it will end up there if all went well
[09:00] <nalioth> Thunder000: if you're running woody
[09:00] <bob2> benplaut: yeah, but how would that work?  rsyncing my /home when I log off?
[09:00] <bob2> durt: please file bugs!
[09:00] <durt> bob2 how do i do that?
[09:00] <damsko> Thunder000 , http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[09:01] <nalioth> damsko: oooh, don't do that
[09:01] <Thardas> I'm having troubles installing smbfs:
[09:01] <Thardas> The following packages have unmet dependencies: smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1) but 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 is installed.
[09:01] <bob2> durt: bugzilla.ubuntu.com for main, launchpad.net for universe
[09:01] <benplaut> bob2: yup... syncing off the server when logging in, syncing off again on logoff
[09:01] <dabar> ubp:)
[09:01] <damsko> nalioth, why not? :(
[09:01] <bob2> Thardas: ask on the backports forum on www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:01] <durt> ok
[09:01] <benplaut> not sure how it works, but it does (for windows and mac, anyway)
[09:01] <dabar> the tail does what? I understand the command, just wondering why I am doing it. Just to see whether I got any mail from where I sent it from?
[09:02] <bob2> dabar: number one unix admin lesson: watch your logs
[09:02] <damsko> nalioth , ok sorry :P
[09:02] <bob2> it will show you if the other side manages to connect to you or not
[09:02] <bob2> then what happens to the mail
[09:02] <bob2> etc
[09:02] <nalioth> damsko: we spend a lot of time in here fixing problems caused by it
[09:03] <dabar> Ok, in /var/log?
[09:03] <bob2> 17:00:01           bob2 | dabar: no, "tail -f /var/log/mail.log", then send yourself mail
[09:04] <damsko> nalioth: i didnt know it , i will not do it again
[09:04] <dabar> how did I not see that part at the end, anyhow, no, I was asking, all logs usually at /var/log?
[09:04] <dabar> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1627 does that mean I sent, and received it? I think it does...
[09:04] <nalioth> damsko: it's not a bad resource for *nix veterans coming to ubuntu, but it seems to lead a whole lot of new (to *nix) users into screwdom
[09:05] <dabar> ok.
[09:05] <Thardas> bob2: there's already been a question but no one answered it. :(
[09:05] <bob2> dabar: right
[09:05] <dabar> see ya.
[09:05] <bob2> Thardas: go backports!
[09:05] <dabar> I mean, her.
[09:06] <dabar> bob2: so I sent and received the mail?
[09:06] <ben> Q: how can find out if i  got a AMD winchester processor instead of an Venice from my dealer?
[09:07] <dabar> bob2: I feel I should read about this, know a good resource on email admin? Cause I know I need to set up some kind of security settings, I could just feel my computer being filled up with files after I set no limit to the mailbox in dpkg-reconfigure.
[09:07] <dabar> I should likely just google.
[09:07] <nalioth> dabar: you know uncle google loves you
[09:07] <bob2> don't know of a guide
[09:07] <dabar> good.
[09:08] <dabar> Uncle Google - We Want You - *points finger*
[09:08] <dabar> Thank you a lot, although I have not figured it out yet at all.
[09:08] <benplaut> Uncle_Google: we want you to provide open source linux versions of all your goodies. In return, you can have us,
[09:09] <onkarshinde> what does 'rebbot=b' kernel boot option do exactly? My laptop won't reboot. No trouble for shutdown.
[09:09] <nalioth> dabar: there are many howtos out there on postfix, start at www.tldp.org first
[09:09] <bob2> onkarshinde: in breezy?
[09:09] <onkarshinde> hoary
[09:09] <ben> the processor details in the device manager does not show me sse3, so i wonder...
[09:10] <onkarshinde> hoary hp custom version on hp laptop
[09:10] <dabar> I just opened that page: )
[09:10] <onkarshinde> bob2: hoary hp custom version on hp laptop
[09:11] <bz0b> hey guys
[09:12] <dabar> yo.
[09:12] <bz0b> bob2, hey man, i hate to bug you again, but I just got this new wifi card, and actually its a usb one, and I tried installing it according to the aircrack document, because it is the Railink or something chipset, but it still doesnt work, by the way, its a dlink dwl g122
[09:12] <dabar> Do you guys know how to stop postfix from running, I fell a little breeze here...
[09:13] <bob2> bz0b: unlikely to work
[09:13] <bob2> dabar: sudo invoke-rc.d postfix stop
[09:13] <bz0b> oh really?
[09:13] <bz0b> is there any way to get it to work?
[09:13] <nalioth> dabar: bob2 told you the easy way
[09:13] <durt> bz0b: do you need ndiawrapper?
[09:13] <bob2> usb wireless adapters are generally utter crap
[09:13] <bob2> ralink especially
[09:13] <dabar> heh, I typed in stop postfix...
[09:13] <dabar> and I was like, why not working...
[09:13] <bob2> go see if kistmet/airsnort supports it
[09:14] <nalioth> bz0b: read the ubuntu compatibility document and THEN spend your money
[09:14] <bz0b> durt, I can't inject packets or put my card on monitor mode with ndiswrapper
[09:14] <dabar> man, I am tied sloppy, see ya,.
[09:14] <cafuego_> Okay, after  abit of manual raid array arrangement, colony3 is not booting ;-)
[09:14] <cafuego_> s/not/now/
[09:14] <X7C> bz0b which chipset is it?
[09:14] <bz0b> nalioth, but my laptop is being gay, after about 10 minutes of being connect to the internet, without having it on the power cord, it freezes my notebook
[09:14] <benplaut> Railink
[09:14] <bz0b> and its a Railink
[09:15] <bz0b> nailoth, that is with all pcmcia cards
[09:16] <bob2> getting it fixed and using a pcmcia adapter is likely to be way less suck than any usb adapter
[09:16] <bz0b> nalioth*, that is the same on windows
[09:16] <bz0b> bob2, do you think it might be a battery problem?
[09:16] <bz0b> 'cause that is what the guy at office max said
[09:17] <bz0b> but I wasen't sure
[09:17] <bz0b> because it doesnt happen with usb wifi cards
[09:17] <ben> Q: how can find out if i  got an AMD Winchester processor instead of an Venice from my dealer (the processor details in the device manager does not show me sse3, so i wonder...)?
[09:17] <nalioth> bz0b: then it is definitely a hardware problem
[09:17] <bob2> that sounds like utter crap
[09:17] <bob2> ben: cat /proc/cpuinfo + google
[09:17] <ben> Q: how can find out if i  got an AMD Winchester processor instead of an Venice from my dealer (the processor details in the device manager show me no sse3, so i wonder...)?
[09:18] <ben> ahhh, thx!
[09:18] <bz0b> what is sse3? nevermind google time!
[09:18] <bob2> also, repeating twice in 17 seconds is non-optimal
[09:18] <zbox> Hi folks. I have a question. Is it may imagination or is Hoary not as stable as Warty?
[09:18] <bob2> it's more gaseous
[09:18] <zbox> LOL
[09:18] <bob2> or do you have a specific issue?>
[09:19] <zbox> i loved warty. it was a rock. but yah i do have issues wit hoary. nautilus crashes for no reason sometimes. and i'm still having issues with firefox even after doing the fix for it
[09:19] <HrdwrBoB> my kitten prefers hoary, she says it makes the power supply warmer
[09:20] <durt> /proc/cpuinfo says my speed is 1.7ghz, but the gnome panel thingy says 1.2ghz... wtf?
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> durt: it has throttled your cpu down
[09:20] <HrdwrBoB> durt: because you're not using it
[09:21] <topyli> my only serious hoary bug is with gnome-terminal crashing quite often
[09:21] <cafuego_> How rude, he PAID for those mhz!
[09:21] <zbox> and naturally i have had no problems with gnome terminal LOL
[09:21] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego_: though ironically he also pays for the watts :)
[09:21] <bz0b> by any chance does anyone know of any channels were I can post up one of my PC's for sale?
[09:21] <topyli> zbox: use ncurses apps, and you might get it to crash too :)
[09:22] <durt> but toshset is supposed to make it fast, and i know that function of toshset was working earlier
[09:22] <cafuego_> HrdwrBoB: Well, actually, in many cases mum&dad do.
[09:22] <bz0b> sorry for being off topic
[09:22] <nalioth> bz0b: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:22] <zbox> what ya got for sale bz0b?
[09:22] <cafuego_> !$#$#!%^ initrd image is missing /dev/md0
[09:22] <ubotu> okay, cafuego_
[09:22] <cafuego_> oh lord
[09:22] <bz0b> zbox, not much, just an amd 64 3200+, 1gb ram, 200gb hd, 128mb nvidia video card
[09:23] <cafuego_> !forget $#$#!%^ initrd image
[09:23] <ubotu> cafuego_: i didn't have anything called '$#$#!%^ initrd image'
[09:23] <zbox> how much bz0b?
[09:23] <nalioth> cafuego_: that is a most excellent factoid
[09:23] <bz0b> 5
[09:23] <bz0b> 500
[09:23] <cafuego_> meh, now i need to go and mysql it
[09:23] <durt> "battery percent: 237%"
[09:23] <zbox> ooooooo
[09:23] <bz0b> zbox, i dont think that's too much
[09:24] <zbox> dang and i haven't sold my house yhet
[09:24] <nalioth> durt: thats ok, i just logged into kde on my powermac and it said i had low bettery, please plug in soon
[09:24] <zbox> no i don't think that is too much for that rig
[09:24] <bz0b> zbox, hehe
[09:25] <bz0b> zbox, my father just sold our house for 1.5 mil, that we paid 330,000 6 years ago
[09:25] <bz0b> :-)
[09:25] <durt> jesus dude
[09:25] <durt> canadian?
[09:25] <bz0b> no
[09:25] <durt> or normal...
[09:25] <bz0b> USD!
[09:25] <bz0b> california
[09:25] <zbox> well bz0b be gald yall be glad yall don't live in Atlanta Texas ROFL
[09:25] <bz0b> 20 minutes from LA
[09:26] <bz0b> Atlanta, TX?
[09:26] <zbox> i think i said yall too many times <G>
[09:26] <bz0b> yall hear?
[09:26] <bz0b> hehe
[09:26] <zbox> yah the other atlanta. ~;-)
[09:26] <nalioth> bz0b: texas is a world state, we have paris, moscow, atlanta, etc
[09:26] <bz0b> really?
[09:26] <bz0b> wow cool
[09:26] <bz0b> and really nice oc192 buildings
[09:26] <bjorn_> how its now to update too brezzy ?
[09:26] <bz0b> to leach internet off of
[09:27] <bz0b> :-)
[09:27] <zbox> Texas is also interplanetary, we have mars texas, jupiter texas
[09:27] <bz0b> WHAT?
[09:27] <bz0b> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:27] <bz0b> sorry
[09:27] <bz0b> but we are getting out of hand
[09:27] <bz0b> well, i should speak for myself
[09:27] <bz0b> but yeah
[09:28] <durt> holy shit! i can see the sun rising - better go sleep soon
[09:28] <bz0b> hehe
[09:28] <bz0b> durt, where you live?
[09:28] <bz0b> jesus christ man
[09:28] <zbox> ok i digressed. sorry. so is the consensus that hoary is just as stable as warty is?
[09:29] <bz0b> what
[09:29] <bz0b> no way
[09:29] <nalioth> durt: better run for the basement b4 the rays ignite something
[09:29] <bz0b> I can crack root on warty with one command
[09:29] <bz0b> on any kernel
[09:29] <durt> lol
[09:29] <bz0b> well
[09:29] <bz0b> gcc -o **** ****.c
[09:29] <ThePyromaniac> hello ubuntu fans
[09:29] <bz0b> ./****
[09:29] <bz0b> but yeah
[09:29] <zbox> bz0b i'm a noob  and have no idea what that means LOL
[09:29] <mypapit> hello...
[09:29] <bz0b> hello ThePyromaniac
[09:29] <mypapit> how do i enable disable services in ubuntu?
[09:30] <omeg> Hey guys. Maybe there are bash experts that can help me. Could you give me a bash command that finds all directories called "test" (with case variations, like Test) and then deletes them?
[09:30] <bz0b> zbox, means that I can have root access to your computer, with access to one of your users
[09:30] <ThePyromaniac> can anyone tell me why it is that ubuntu installation hates me?
[09:30] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: as jdub says, "good morning freedom lovers!" :-)
[09:30] <ThePyromaniac> hehe
[09:30] <durt> locate test
[09:30] <durt> right?
[09:30] <bob2> mypapit: normally you uninstall things if you don't want them to run anymore
[09:30] <cafuego_> !test
[09:30] <ubotu> Passed.
[09:30] <nalioth> durt: that's only the first part of what omeg wanted to know
[09:31] <durt> oh
[09:31] <mypapit> bob2, i see.. ok..
[09:31] <nalioth> omeg: remember the pipe is your friend
[09:31] <omeg> Yeah, I usually make test folders to put random testing crap in, and I thought that using a bash command might be an easy way to get rid of them on a monthly or so basis.
[09:31] <ThePyromaniac> i tried breezy colony 3 and it freezes each time on "Installed language-en" which is 88%. I figured it was a bug so i tried 5.04 and i keep getting "Bufffer I/O Error on device hdc"
[09:31] <zbox> thats good in theory bz0b
[09:31] <zbox> but then there is reality
[09:32] <nalioth> omeg: make sure you test this bash script b4 you unleash it for real
[09:32] <nalioth> omeg: are you familiar with the pipe? |
[09:32] <ThePyromaniac> that means it installs a few packages badly at the end, and sends me to a crazy package program i cant use. then it does a buggered install that only installs the command line version
[09:32] <bz0b> zbox, actually, with ssh access to any user you create on a warty box, i can crack root, no joke
[09:32] <omeg> No, I'm a total noob when it comes to bash, and I don't even really know what "the pipe" is. :)
[09:33] <cafuego_> Hmm. How do I add /dev/md0 to the automatically generated initrd images?
[09:33] <Madpilot> omeg: | <-- that is a pipe
[09:33] <ThePyromaniac> anyone?
[09:33] <nalioth> omeg: a pipe is the symbol above the windows slash (idk what it's called)
[09:33] <omeg> Ah, I see.
[09:33] <zbox> thats nice bz0b
[09:34] <nalioth> omeg: a pipe (like it carries water) 'pipes' output from one command to another one
[09:34] <bz0b> zbox, you don't believe me? in a screen on the warty server i just installed, I can prove it to you
[09:34] <durt> which ones the slash and which ones the backslash?
[09:34] <omeg> nalioth: I see. So I could first find the folders and then delete them? Still, I don't know the necessary commands.
[09:34] <nalioth> durt: a pipe is not a question mark
[09:34] <yahalom> anyone here know of a firewall that uses white and black lists to block sites?
[09:34] <ThePyromaniac> slash is / backslash is \
[09:34] <bz0b> yup
[09:34] <bob2> mypapit: or us sysv-rc-conf or bum or update-rc.d
[09:34] <mypapit> bob2, thanks man.. :)
[09:35] <nalioth> omeg: now that you know about the pipe, the rest is simple (i bet you already know the commands, and just don't know you do)
[09:35] <zbox> bz0b i hate to tell you this but frankly i don't care LOL
[09:35] <ThePyromaniac> is there anyone to help with my problem i posted earlier?
[09:35] <bz0b> xbox, dont get all scurred now!
[09:35] <zbox> LOL
[09:35] <omeg> uh... "locate test|del ./test" ?
[09:35] <omeg> I had the tendency to type "rd"
[09:36] <omeg> Good old dos days.
[09:36] <zbox> bz0b are you like that german guy that was in that thing that was going around who insisted he was going to "wipe your hard drive any second now"?
[09:36] <topyli> omeg: just make an alias. i have md and rd :)
[09:36] <nalioth> omeg: actually it's "rm <file>", but i'd just locate what you're after b4 i removed it
[09:36] <ThePyromaniac> i tried breezy colony 3 and it freezes each time on "Installed language-en" which is 88%. I figured it was a bug so i tried 5.04 and i keep getting "Bufffer I/O Error on device hdc"
[09:37] <bz0b> zbox, no, I am just proving the point on what you said, how warty was not as safe as hoary
[09:37] <omeg> So... wait. How would I remove the files that it found with "locate"?
[09:37] <nicholaspaul> bob2: thx for  your help. but it aint working. I'll wrestle another day - thanks for all your advice tho :)
[09:37] <zbox> how is breezy doin these days yall? stable enough for real life work yet?
[09:37] <cafuego_> ThePyromaniac: file a bug, stop trying
[09:37] <imsick> hello
[09:37] <ThePyromaniac> :(
[09:37] <nicholaspaul> and thanks cafuego__ for yr help too :) i'll fight another day!
[09:37] <zbox> bz0b i never said anythig about saftey between warty and hoary. i said stability.
[09:37] <nicholaspaul> Gnite
[09:37] <imsick> anyone here managed gizmo to work?
[09:38] <bz0b> zbox ok i digressed. sorry. so is the consensus that hoary is just as stable as warty is?
[09:38] <Poromies> ThePyromaniac: have you checked md5sum of the installation medias iso?
[09:38] <imsick> gizmo linux
[09:38] <bz0b> woops
[09:38] <imsick> anyone here managed gizmo to work?
[09:38] <topyli> omeg: should be something like "rm < locate foo" i guess
[09:38] <bz0b> i thought you said i disaggreed
[09:38] <ThePyromaniac> Poromies: No i havent, you think its not fully downloaded?
[09:38] <zbox> i don't know bz0b. that is why i was asking LOL
[09:38] <bz0b> stupid old me
[09:38] <bz0b> just point and laugh
[09:38] <cafuego_> topyli: NO!
[09:38] <cafuego_> topyli: find / -name foo -exec rm {}\;
[09:38] <armor98926> hey people
[09:38] <topyli> ah, of course
[09:39] <zbox> my experience so far is that hoary is not as stable as warty.
[09:39] <bz0b> well
[09:39] <armor98926> what version of wine do you think would be best to get if you want yahoo instant messaging?
[09:39] <bz0b> in my experience for security it is
[09:39] <durt> um.. gaim
[09:39] <topyli> armor98926: gaim, no wine
[09:40] <zbox> but that's just my experience. i'm going to try a fresh install here soon, and see what happens then
[09:40] <parabolize> omeg, auto removeing any test folder would be a bad idea. try locate test now and see all the system files you will delete
[09:40] <omeg> [09:38]  <cafuego_> topyli: find / -name foo -exec rm {}\; <-- so... "find / -name test -exec rm {}\;"?
[09:40] <armor98926> well i have gaim but how can i see webcams from it then?
[09:40] <zbox> was talking about stability
[09:40] <armor98926> and display pics?
[09:40] <omeg> If there are system folders named "test" then that is pretty stupid.
[09:40] <cafuego_> omeg: Run it as "find / -name test -print" first
[09:40] <nalioth> armor98926: use gaim for yahoo
[09:40] <hrothbeort> omeg, just a thought but what about creating your test folders in /tmp ?
[09:40] <bz0b> zbox, in my opinion, security is part of stability
[09:40] <topyli> armor98926: ah, that's different
[09:41] <cafuego_> omeg: OR: "unalias rm; find / -name test -exec rm -i {}\;"  - that will ask before deleting.
[09:41] <zbox> oh man my brother zerboxx just left
[09:41] <nalioth> omeg: dont do things you dont understand with linux. this way leads to an empty hard drive
[09:41] <armor98926> so what version of wine would you recommend
[09:41] <omeg> I don't want to navigate to a certain folder when making test files, especially web-related ones that need to work with a relative path.
[09:41] <zbox> ok thanks for your opinion bz0b
[09:41] <omeg> Anyway, thanks for helping, cafuego_ and others.
[09:42] <omeg> :)
[09:42] <bz0b> I gaurentee at least 1 other person in here feels that security should be considered when it comes to stability?
[09:42] <atomicoz> i use gyach, armor98926. it supports webcam,display pics, audio etc.. not in the apt-get repos though.
[09:42] <omeg> I guess I'll be a little careful.
[09:42] <zbox> 1 person out of 400??
[09:42] <topyli> bz0b: i'd call them two different things
[09:42] <armor98926> atomicoz; is gyach  type of messenger or whath?
[09:42] <atomicoz> yahoo messenger only
[09:42] <atomicoz> but it does it good in my opinion. :)
[09:42] <bz0b> so you dont think a distro's stability is included on how secure it is?
[09:42] <bz0b> wow
[09:43] <zbox> agreed topyli
[09:43] <armor98926> oh ok then how would i install it for ubuntu?
[09:43] <fek> moin
[09:43] <zbox> no bz0b that is secuity. that is totally different than stability
[09:43] <bz0b> ok
[09:44] <armor98926> alright i guess you cant help me see you people
[09:44] <atomicoz> aaa
[09:44] <nalioth> armor98926: download the source and build it
[09:44] <atomicoz> Don't go!
[09:44] <atomicoz> armor98926: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/
[09:44] <armor98926> how do i do that
[09:44] <durt> read the INSTALL file
[09:44] <atomicoz> it's precompiled already
[09:44] <atomicoz> if im not tired and mistaken
[09:45] <nalioth> armor98926: easy, install "build-essential" and "checkinstall"
[09:45] <ThePyromaniac> has anyone else expierienced bugs with installing breezy?
[09:45] <armor98926> alright thanx
[09:45] <armor98926> c ya
[09:45] <atomicoz> cya :)
[09:45] <ThePyromaniac> cause i was wondering if its a better idea to use 5.04, 5.10 col 3 or the daily updates?
[09:45] <nalioth> armor98926: unzip the gyach source code and change into that directory
[09:45] <nalioth> and i speak to nobody
[09:45] <NoUse> !compile
[09:45] <ubotu> [compile]  tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[09:46] <bz0b> zbox, i guess i will keep my opions to my self from now on
[09:46] <durt> maybe ill try gyach
[09:46] <zbox> bz0b opinions are fine.
[09:46] <nalioth> durt: only if you need yahoo video chat
[09:47] <durt> never mind...
[09:47] <Poromies> ThePyromaniac: well breezy is the current "testing" branch of ubuntu, so my guess is that most people installing it are having some sort of troubles with it.. it's still highly unstable
[09:47] <cafuego_> nalioth: Can you tell me what fstype a recompiled ppc initrd image is?
[09:48] <twibbler> Wonder if somebody could help ... I have used ssh to make two connections to other machines. These apeared as desktop items. I then removed them. But every time I boot up I am asked for the passwords to login. What have I missed ?.
[09:48] <nalioth> cafuego_: not anymore than i could tell you the color of a baboons spleen
[09:48] <cafuego_> nalioth: not usibng a precompiled kernel or have one installed?
[09:48] <durt> i dont think its "highly" unstable
[09:48] <nalioth> cafuego_: i've got whatver apt got for me
[09:48] <cafuego_> nalioth: that's ok: "file /boot/initrd.img-2.6.xxxxx"
[09:49] <cafuego_> nalioth: .. if you could?
[09:49] <ThePyromaniac> Poromies: fair enough. its understandable to be so impatient with it when u have seen the changelog, right? ^_^
[09:49] <bz0b> to tell you all the truth, i think kubuntu is more stable then ubuntu
[09:49] <nalioth> cafuego_: at this time of morning, i need more instructions than that, but hang on while i fix it
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[09:50] <ThePyromaniac> kubuntu is no fun tho, tried that and didn't like
[09:50] <ThePyromaniac> installation of somethings is ridiculous! tried installing kftpgrabber. that required compiling so downloaded gcc. that ALSO required compiling so downloaded about 50 libs, and so on for 2 hours. no thanks!
[09:51] <ThePyromaniac> ubuntu is a simple apt-get away from having most useful programs that kde doesn't even seem to have
[09:51] <bob2> wtf
[09:51] <haakonn> my breezy64 freezes: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59993 -- any suggestions are appreciated
[09:51] <Poromies> hmm, i haven't had any problems like that with kubuntu, strange O.o
[09:51] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: please tell me you're kidding
[09:52] <ThePyromaniac> nope
[09:52] <nalioth> ThePyromaniac: that's funny, i compiled kftpgrabber t'other night in about 10 minutes
[09:52] <ThePyromaniac> well it took me damn long time
[09:52] <nalioth> ThePyromaniac: you need to install "build-essential"
[09:52] <ThePyromaniac> indeed i did
[09:52] <bob2> wtf
[09:52] <ThePyromaniac> then spend ages downloading each and every package for it to install right
[09:52] <bob2> you do not need to compile anything to have gcc work
[09:52] <cafuego_> nalioth: cool, thankyou :-)
[09:52] <ThePyromaniac> yes you fo
[09:52] <bob2> no, you do not
[09:53] <nalioth> ThePyromaniac: nah, just kde*-dev
[09:53] <bob2> if you had to, you did something wrong
[09:53] <nalioth> cafuego_: did that answer your question? that was from my currently running kernel
[09:54] <cafuego_> nalioth: yeah (i'ms tuck ina  rescue term on colony3, coz the default initrd image doesn't have /dev/md0 on it, which is what my / is on)
[09:55] <cafuego_> Now I should be able to mount the sucker and check
[09:55] <nalioth> cafuego_: at least your cd booted, mine didnt boot at all (and it kernel panicked my osx when i booted into it)
[09:55] <ThePyromaniac> what did i do wrong other than sudo apt-get install build-essentials? this was from a clean install
[09:56] <nalioth> ThePyromaniac: i believe bob2 misunderstood you (or you misspoke your situation)
[09:56] <bob2> ThePyromaniac: why did you think you had to compile?
[09:56] <Ice9> when I try to play something in xmms, I get this  "please check that: your soundcard is configured properly, you have the correct output plugin selection, no other program is blocking the soundcard"
[09:56] <nalioth> bob2: kftpgrabber is (to my knowledge) not available via apt
[09:56] <bob2> right
[09:56] <bob2> compiling that is fine
[09:56] <bob2> compiling gcc is not
[09:56] <bob2> Ice9: configure it to use esound for output
[09:57] <andre80> I need help on reading ntfs
[09:57] <andre80> anybody can help me please
[09:57] <NoUse> !sound
[09:57] <ubotu> sound is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[09:57] <maan84> Hello, I'm having problem watching a *.mkv file, I've tried using Xine,Vlc,Totem,Mplayer, anyone have a suggestion?
[09:57] <Ice9> bob2, still same message
[09:57] <nalioth> bob2: ThePyromaniac never mentioned compiling gcc, just having to apt it
[09:58] <bob2> "that required compiling so downloaded gcc. that ALSO required  compiling"
[09:58] <ubuntu> I am in live cd, how do i download codecs to play avi files in totem?
[09:58] <cafuego_> yes, use windows to view windows-created pirated movies
[09:58] <bob2> ubuntu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:58] <nalioth> ubuntu: system > admin > synaptic package manager
[09:58] <ubuntu> ok
[09:58] <ubuntu> im in synaptoc
[09:59] <nalioth> ubuntu: go the URL bob2 showed ya
[09:59] <ubuntu> ok
[09:59] <zbox> hey does anyone know of a good near realtime weather radar app for linux desktops?
[09:59] <nalioth> zbox: aside from the weather applet?
[10:00] <zbox> yah aside from that nalioth
[10:00] <Sonderblade> how do you setup ubuntu with iptables?
[10:00] <zbox> the gnome weather applet is ok, but i live in tornado alley. i need more up to date doppler radar LOL
[10:00] <bob2> Sonderblade: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian
[10:00] <nalioth> Sonderblade: read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[10:01] <bob2> or do you mean "How do I setup a firewall on Ubuntu?"?
[10:01] <cafuego_> zbox: move. I suggest a different country.
[10:01] <Sonderblade> thanks
[10:01] <daaku> is there a ppc channel?
[10:01] <guillem> Where (repositories) can I find acrobat 7?
[10:01] <nalioth> daaku: you are in it
[10:01] <zbox> nice cafuego
[10:01] <cafuego_> #ubuntu-ppc, or you could ask us
[10:01] <Sonderblade> bob2: yes thats what i mean :) isn't iptables and firewall the same thing?
[10:01] <orlok> guillem: acrobat 7?
[10:02] <orlok> guillem: hmm, inneresting, most people use ghostscript/xpdf rather than acroread
[10:02] <guillem> orlok, acroread 7, I mean
[10:02] <orlok> you in the pdf business?
[10:02] <nalioth> Sonderblade: iptables is a firewall and more
[10:02] <guillem> orlok, acroread has some features xpdf has not. I use them both
[10:02] <nalioth> Sonderblade: read the URL i sent, or the link bob2 sent
[10:02] <daaku> nalioth, cafuego: i think i'll stick around then. just gotta get used to the damn powerbook kb
[10:02] <zbox> and actually cafuego i am moving soon to oregon, but it will be a while until i even trust the weather there ROFL
[10:02] <nalioth> daaku: got any ppc questions?
[10:03] <bob2> Sonderblade: iptables is the core kernel part of linux's firewalling, but normally you don't use it directly
[10:03] <guillem> orlok, nope, but I like acrobat antialiasing of figures at my presentations
[10:03] <daaku> nalioth: just installed ubuntu, compiling the newest kernel with fn support. hopefully all will be well
[10:03] <Sonderblade> bob2: what do you use instead?
[10:04] <freewoody> Hi, my system can't seem to detect one of my Nic cards
[10:04] <daaku> nalioth, looking for recommendations for a pcmcia 802.11 card though
[10:04] <helloyo> whats the address of the bug tracker?
[10:04] <nalioth> daaku: see the wiki.ubuntu.com for hardware compatibility
[10:04] <nalioth> daaku: then spend your money
[10:05] <guillem> orlok, I found it, it is at backports
[10:05] <daaku> nalioth, cool, thanks
[10:05] <freewoody> by the way, How do I share my Internet connection with this Ubuntu box of mine
[10:05] <freewoody> What do I need to do ?
[10:05] <bob2> Sonderblade: shorewall is a nice wrapper for it
[10:05] <nalioth> freewoody: we need more info. are you sharing from your ubuntu box, to your ubuntu box, what?
[10:06] <zbox> is your other machine with the connection windows or linux?
[10:06] <bob2> helloyo: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <helloyo> thanks bob
[10:07] <freewoody> Sorry but I just closed this box
[10:07] <Sonderblade> bob2: thanks
[10:07] <zbox> freeewoody: is the other machine with your connection windows or linux?
[10:07] <freewoody> I was needing help to share an Internet connection with 100 PCs using the an Ubuntu box
[10:08] <freewoody> 90 PCs are running Windows
[10:08] <freewoody> 10 are running Linux
[10:08] <nalioth> freewoody: you'll need a few switches or hubs for that
[10:08] <freewoody> No problem
[10:08] <zbox> freewoody and the machine providing the connection is running what?
[10:08] <helloyo> breezy isn't working for me due to my network not being configured correctly (8139cp instead of 8139too), how do i fix this?
[10:08] <nalioth> zbox: his ubuntu box
[10:09] <freewoody> I am using Ubuntu with the machine providing the connection
[10:09] <ubuntu> How do i enable ssh in the live cd?
[10:09] <nalioth> ubuntu: it is default on the lived, or install "openssh-server"
[10:09] <mae> is anyone having problems with sound-juicer/totem/rhythmbox _all_ crashing on breezy colony-3
[10:10] <ubuntu> so are you saying it is already on?
[10:10] <mae> on startup mind you, not after use
[10:10] <helloyo> could somebody please help me with a showstopper breezy bug?
[10:10] <ubuntu> I want to make ssh server
[10:10] <nalioth> ubuntu: a ssh client is default in the livecd
[10:10] <ubuntu> set up one
[10:10] <nalioth> ubuntu: then install "openssh-server"
[10:11] <ubuntu> ok
[10:11] <dalamar> running unstable versions do these things
[10:11] <jtan325> helloyo, why are you using breezy?
[10:11] <helloyo> jtan325, thats the thing, i can't install it
[10:11] <jtan325> ... i wouldn't recommend it, unless you really know what you're doing
[10:12] <traveller> is anyone using ubuntu amd64 and hearing small beeps from their speakers (not the system speaker) everytime a key is pressed or repeated?
[10:12] <helloyo> jtan325, i'm not expert, but i can usually fix little things, just its using the wrong network module, and i modprobe the right one in, but then i dont know what to do
[10:12] <benplaut> what's the command to bring up the theme chooser?
[10:13] <jtan325> you could try #ubuntu-devel
[10:13] <nalioth> benplaut: system > preferences > themes
[10:13] <benplaut> n/m...
[10:13] <benplaut> it's gnome-theme-manager
[10:13] <dalamar> ubuntu-devel does not support breezy at this time
[10:14] <dalamar> its a run at your own risk type of thing atm
[10:14] <mae> :)
[10:14] <helloyo> theres got to be someone who knows how to configure my network properly! i have been trying for days!!!
[10:15] <dalamar> why not use hoary then which would most likely work?
[10:15] <peterretief> Hey all, I got a problem with ubuntu not finding a serial mouse?
[10:15] <helloyo> dalamar, because i'm over hoary
[10:16] <Viz> which modem u using helloyo?
[10:16] <peterretief> helloyo, whats the prob
[10:17] <robert1123> thanks to all for you help
[10:17] <helloyo> Viz, peterretief, i have a dhcp setup, which has always automatically setup my network until now. network isn't initiliased, and i get an error at startup saying something along the lines of 8139cp not supported, use 8139too
[10:17] <robert1123> I got my web server up
[10:17] <ubuntu> I get this error There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[10:17] <ubuntu> i just installed w32codecs
[10:17] <freewoody> So how do I share my Internet with my Ubuntu box
[10:17] <ubuntu> and how do i change root password in the root terminal?
[10:17] <nalioth> ubuntu: have you installed realplayer?
[10:17] <ubuntu> no
[10:18] <ubuntu> its an avi file
[10:18] <peterretief> have you tried setting up manual
[10:19] <helloyo> peterretief, no, i can't find that setting, is it in "expert" mode?
[10:19] <ubuntu> Whats the command to install vlc media player? as that will have the codecs?
[10:19] <dalamar> lol
[10:19] <helloyo> ubuntu, give totem-xine a go
[10:19] <nalioth> ubuntu: use synaptic
[10:19] <peterretief> I assume you are using gnome - xorg
[10:19] <ubuntu> ok
[10:20] <Fionn> does anyone here happen to have the evolution2.3.7 packages? I installed 2.3.8 and it always crashes on me right at the start. I need to get back
[10:20] <helloyo> peterretief, i can't get breezy to install at all, the network doesn't configure
[10:20] <peterretief> helloyo, its under sytem => administration => networking
[10:20] <ubuntu> it wont come up with  totem-xine
[10:20] <ubuntu> when i search for it
[10:21] <helloyo> ubuntu, have you enabled more repositories?
[10:21] <Sonderblade> would it be a good idea to use ubuntu installed as a server as a dedicated firewall?
[10:21] <peterretief> I though t breezy hadnt been released
[10:22] <ThePyromaniac> althought this isnt strictly ubuntu question, its involved with the proccess of installation ^^, how do i remove an OS from the OS boot menu?
[10:22] <ubuntu> yeh repositories have been added
[10:22] <Madpilot> ubuntu: you need Universe/Multiverse repos enabled
[10:22] <ubuntu> they are
[10:22] <helloyo> peterretief, it hasn't, but i want to give it a go
[10:22] <ThePyromaniac> i accidenetally almost installed a 2nd version of win64, then deleted the partition. now it wont go away
[10:22] <Madpilot> !info totem-xine
[10:22] <Ng> ThePyromaniac: the boot menu is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:22] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 633 kB, Installed size: 3788 kB
[10:22] <Ng> ThePyromaniac: edit it and remove the one you don't want. Obviously be *very* careful and take a copy first ;)
[10:23] <helloyo> i've install e17 off smoons repository, but when i log into it, i get a black screen, which changes white, then doesn't do anything
[10:23] <ubuntu> fine
[10:23] <peterretief> helloyo, i run my dhcp from a separate machine
[10:23] <peterretief> i need some clues on setting up a serial mouse
[10:23] <Fionn> PLEASE, does anyone here happen to have the evolution2.3.7 packages? I installed 2.3.8 and it always crashes on me right at the start. I need to get back
[10:23] <peterretief> help
[10:24] <nalioth> Sonderblade: ubuntu is a *nix like any other, it's all how you configure your iptables
[10:24] <ThePyromaniac> Ng: How would i go about editing that? can windows see it?
[10:24] <cafuego_> Fionn: /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:24] <ThePyromaniac> oh, i removed grub. i have windows on a totally separate harddrive
[10:24] <Viz> is anyone else getting "unmet dependencies" errors when trying to install stuff, including kde?
[10:24] <Ng> ThePyromaniac: ah, if you're using the windows boot menu thing then I have no idea :)
[10:24] <mrdeath> hello. how i set ask gnome mixer to handle oss mixer?
[10:24] <nalioth> Viz: you must have unofficial repos
[10:24] <ThePyromaniac> damn, heh
[10:24] <ThePyromaniac> thanks anyway Ng
[10:24] <mrdeath> how i can set
[10:25] <Viz> unofficial?
[10:25] <Ng> mrdeath: the one on the panel? right click on it and choose preferences
[10:25] <_daniel> i have problems compiling appletouch module
[10:25] <Ng> mrdeath: if you mean the full gnome mixer application in Applications->SoundandVideo then go into its file menu and use the Change Device submenu :)
[10:25] <mrdeath> Ng: preferences window don't apear :(
[10:26] <Ng> mrdeath: odd, it's not behind another window or something?
[10:26] <mrdeath> Ng: oh, okay. thanks
[10:26] <mrdeath> nope
[10:26] <mrdeath> just no window
[10:26] <Ng> bizarre :o
[10:27] <twibbler> Can anybody help me with getting skype working on ubuntu please ..
[10:27] <mrdeath> Ng: when i try to load gnome-volume-control i get 'No volume control elements and/or devices found.'
[10:28] <Ng> mrdeath: does sound work at all? I'm thinking maybe it's not configured properly
[10:28] <mrdeath> Ng: it works with oss module
[10:28] <mrdeath> Ng: my i855 don't work with alsa :(
[10:29] <mrdeath> Ng: i'm listening music now
[10:29] <mrdeath> aumix works fine
[10:29] <Ng> mrdeath: that's a bit of a pain. I'm not sure how you can persuade the gnome volume things to use oss without them already being running and working :/
[10:30] <Ng> you might be able to change the gconf keys directly, but I'm not sure I'm afraid
[10:30] <mrdeath> Ng: okay. i will try to figure this situation our myself
[10:30] <Fionn> cafuego_: only the new version is there, not the old one
[10:31] <mrdeath> don't like gnome. maybe it will be a good idea to back to kde
[10:32] <Fionn> cafuego_: apt-get needs an UNDO ;-)
[10:32] <armor98926> i want the actual yahoo messenger how do i get it?
[10:32] <Fionn> armor98926: apt-get -f install gaim
[10:32] <SorinN> hi there ..is here someone who can install and use Beagle (desktop search ) in Ubuntu ?
[10:32] <armor98926> what the other one that gives me webcam and stuff like that/
[10:33] <Ng> SorinN: I believe there are instructions in the wiki
[10:33] <SorinN> k ..thanks
[10:33] <SorinN> I''' searc there
[10:33] <SorinN> search
[10:34] <osfameron> annoyingly you can't just install beagle from synaptic/apt-get iirc
[10:34] <armor98926> im trying to get webcam on gaim how do i do iti
[10:34] <ycomb> sorinN: I am on breezy - installed with apt and it Just Worked(tm)
[10:34] <osfameron> there's instructions on beagle site on which order you have to add the packages, I thought
[10:35] <Fionn> armor98926: you want gaimvv (on sourceforge) or gnome-meeting.
[10:35] <armor98926> i have gaim i just dont have wecam how do i get that
[10:35] <Fionn> armor98926: standard gaim cant do video
[10:35] <xulMunkee> help! my gnome desktop has disappeared; no icons, no background image, nothing!
[10:36] <armor98926> is their any other chat one that i can get that can?
[10:36] <Fionn> armor98926: gnome-meeting can do that
[10:36] <Fionn> armor98926: it is a netmeeting[tm]  comaptible messaging system.
[10:36] <ThePyromaniac> has anyone here ever used win32 on a computer that used to have a 32 bit proccessor, then upgraded to 64-bit?
[10:37] <Fionn> ThePyromaniac: hehe, sounds like fun
[10:37] <armor98926> it says hte command is not found how do i get it
[10:37] <Fionn> armor98926: open a root shell and type: "apt-get -f install gnome-meeting"
[10:38] <bronco> howdy. I'm trying to play a file with vlc, I know the file works, since I've viewed it before, but now, nothing is happening when it tries to play
[10:38] <xulMunkee> can anyone help?
[10:38] <armor98926> is that the same as the terminal?
[10:38] <Fionn> armor98926: sorry, the name is "gnomemeeting", not "gnome-meeting"
[10:38] <ThePyromaniac> hmm, it says to me "hardware change, bla" and it gives the Safe Mode, Safe Mode with command prompt, reboot with last known good config settings page, ya'll know the one. anyone ever had that?
[10:39] <Fionn> armor98926: yes, it it the terminal. and you must be the root user when you enter the command.
[10:39] <ThePyromaniac> oh and i found the way to remove a broken OS from the boot menu if anyone wants to know, ask me and i will tell ^^
[10:39] <armor98926> it says could not open lake of fie
[10:39] <armor98926> file*
[10:39] <Fionn> armor98926: if you aint root, then type "su -" first and enter your administrator apssword
[10:39] <Madpilot> Fionn: Ubuntu uses "sudo", remember
[10:40] <Fionn> ThePyromaniac: sorry, never had windows actually ;-)
[10:40] <Fionn> Madpilot: is that so.
[10:40] <Madpilot> !sudo
[10:40] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:40] <armor98926> it says command not found
[10:40] <ThePyromaniac> Fionn: you are a lucky guy/gal
[10:41] <armor98926> i have to put
[10:41] <bronco> howdy. I'm trying to play a file with vlc, I know the file works, since I've viewed it before, but now, nothing is happening when it tries to play
[10:41] <brenner> bronco: define 'nothing' ... does vlc load at all?
[10:41] <armor98926> su-apt-get -f install gnomemeeting
[10:41] <bronco> vlc loads
[10:41] <bronco> but won't load the file
[10:42] <brenner> bronco: but no sound or video?
[10:42] <Fionn> armor98926: try: "sudo apt-get -f install gnomemeeting"
[10:42] <bronco> no, neither
[10:42] <brenner> bronco: any errors?
[10:42] <bronco> no
[10:42] <brenner> bronco: run vlc from terminal, and check for any error output
[10:42] <armor98926> it says i have the newest version now what
[10:43] <xulMunkee> my gnome desktop has disappeared: no icons, no background image either. what can i do?
[10:44] <Fionn> xulMunkee: so what did you do before it vanished?
[10:44] <I_C_WIENER> xulMunkee, what about a restart?
[10:44] <mypapit> I_C_WIENER? that guy that ordered pizza from fry?
[10:44] <xulMunkee> I did log-out and log back in, but no change
[10:44] <bronco> brenner - it says "no suitable access module" for the file name
[10:44] <xulMunkee> Fionn, i don't know :(
[10:44] <I_C_WIENER> sure mypapit
[10:45] <Fionn> armor98926: then start it. type "gnomemeeting" at the command prompt and press ENTER
[10:45] <I_C_WIENER> mypapit, I_C_WIENER rules :)
[10:45] <Fionn> xulMunkee: wow, no desktop and no memory. must have been a fun night.
[10:45] <brenner> bronco: weird ... can you think of any system changes you made to make it stop working?
[10:45] <armor98926> now it works thanx
[10:45] <mypapit> I_C_WIENER, hehe
[10:45] <brenner> xulMunkee: reconfifure the xorg package
[10:46] <brenner> *reconfigure even
[10:46] <xulMunkee> brenner, how?
[10:46] <bronco> none at all...it worked when I left for work, then I came back from work, restarted, and now nothing:/
[10:46] <Fionn> armor98926: you can also start gnome meeting from your start menu. it is in the internet folder
[10:46] <brenner> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:47] <brenner> bronco: [1]  what's the file type? [2]  tried other media players?
[10:47] <bronco> its avi
[10:47] <Fionn> brenner: i'd bet his WM is gone or gnome-session is stuck. Dont know if reconfiguring xorg will be a good idea
[10:47] <bronco> and totem doesn't work either
[10:48] <brenner> bronco: totem requires w32codecs
[10:48] <ilba7r> bronco are you using the default installed totem
[10:48] <brenner> bronco: switching to toem-xine helps as well
[10:48] <bronco> yes
[10:48] <ilba7r> you need to change it as brenner said
[10:48] <brenner> Fionn: i've heard of someone losing their panels, reconfiguring xorg fixed it ... just a stab
[10:48] <bronco> well the problem is, the computer I am trying to view it on currently doesn't have internet access
[10:49] <brenner> bronco: well, maybe try reinstall the vlc package thru synaptic
[10:49] <bronco> can I do that without internet?
[10:49] <ilba7r> brenner did he try typing gnome-panel in a terminal
[10:50] <brenner> bronco: should be
[10:50] <brenner> ilba7r: who?
[10:50] <ilba7r> the one who have trouble with the gnome-panel
[10:51] <bronco> nope, can't :/
[10:51] <brenner> ilba7r: i think he did... long time ago
[10:51] <brenner> bronco: you marked for reinstallation?
[10:51] <robotgeek> damn, vlc is broken in breezy!
[10:51] <bronco> yes
[10:51] <bronco> says can't access http://whatever the repository is
[10:51] <toady> hi, where is the bugtracker for ubuntu ?
[10:51] <brenner> bronco: are you using breezy?
[10:51] <bronco> no
[10:52] <ilba7r> ok just there is a default gnome session /etc/gnome/default.session copying it to .gnome2 always worked for me :)
[10:52] <armor98926> Fionn: can i now view webcam off of Gaim?
[10:52] <brenner> bronco: dunno then ... when can you get net access back up?
[10:52] <bronco> tomorrow night
[10:53] <brenner> ilba7r: you should be telling xulMunkee. he's the one with gnome probs. :)
[10:53] <armor98926> is fionn still here?
[10:53] <brenner> bronco: how are you talking to us then?
[10:54] <bronco> this computer has working internet
[10:54] <brenner> bronco: anyway, i'd google for that error you got then
[10:54] <bronco> I'm going to get a new nic for the other one tomorrow
[10:54] <brenner> while you wait for tomorrow
[10:55] <Thorondor> how to search&replace directory-wide including subdirs?
[10:56] <brenner> !tell toady about bug
[10:56] <Tonka> how do I place trash icon on the desktop? thanks.
[10:57] <toady> brenner: :) tx
[10:57] <Fionn> hehe. hpfblle
[10:57] <Fionn> oops
[10:58] <w1ng> good morning
[10:58] <w1ng> i have a prob with my ssh
[10:58] <mypapit> morning w1ng
[10:58] <Julia1> morning all!
[10:58] <w1ng> i can't access my server in the LAN from the Internet
[10:58] <twibbler> ok Ive asked about skype problem and have been investigating .... I have managed to resolve skype by removing esound ... however I need esound for music etc .. has anybody come acroos this
[10:58] <w1ng> I have a connection somehow
[10:59] <w1ng> I am asked for a password
[10:59] <Madpilot> Tonka: right-click on either taskbar, select "Add to Panel" and scroll down until you see Trash
[10:59] <w1ng> but when i type it in nothing happens
[11:00] <ilba7r> are you running sshd on the server pc?
[11:00] <w1ng> what is that?
[11:00] <brenner> Madpilot: that's the panles, not the desktop. :)
[11:00] <brenner> *panels even
[11:00] <Julia1> I have a stupid unix question:  In windows, if you activate tab-complete for the shell, if there are several possible completions after typing a portion of a path, repeatedly pressing tab will cycle through the various options.  When you get the right one, you press enter.  With bash, if there's several possible options, it farts and throws up the possible solutions, expecting you to type more to resolve the ambiguity.  Is there a way t
[11:01] <ilba7r> w1ng are you connecting to a server or just on a home lan
[11:01] <Madpilot> brenner: heh, missed the "on the desktop" part of Tonka's question - need more sleep
[11:02] <j-mi> Hi everyone, I'm having some troubles with a penndrive
[11:02] <Julia1> No one know bash config?
[11:02] <j-mi> after I mount it, I can only write/delete as root user
[11:03] <j-mi> is this normal?
[11:03] <kemik> Julia1:  what do you mean ?
[11:03] <Julia1> I've been googling it, and have found nothing.
[11:03] <brenner> Julia1: it's pretty quiet atm in here, tried #linux?
[11:03] <kemik> j-mi:  maybe have to set umask, or mount it with "uid=youruser, gid=yourgroup"
[11:03] <Julia1> OK,  I'll go to linux.
[11:03] <Thorondor> how can i search&replace in a whole directory including subdirectories?
[11:04] <kemik> rename
[11:04] <j-mi> I had umask=000 in the /etc/fstab, but it's the same
[11:05] <kemik> but i'm not sure if rename can go recursive, perhaps you need to use find and pipe it to rename
[11:05] <Coyctecm> Is those colony different than array was in hoary?
[11:06] <Coyctecm> I mean is colony more unstable than array?
[11:06] <kemik> j-mi:  umask=000 would give noone any rights i think
[11:07] <Coyctecm> I remember when hoary was published I was installed my hoary in array 5 cd =)
[11:07] <clem_yeats> umask 000 gives a default 777 permission
[11:07] <clem_yeats> rights to everybody
[11:07] <kemik> ah :)
[11:07] <frisbeboy> rwx 2 everybody
[11:07] <j-mi> well, that's what I have for my fat32 partitions and work fine ;)
[11:07] <Madpilot> Coyctecm: no idea about stable, but the names are based on the collective nouns for the animals - a sounder of warthogs or a colony of badgers
[11:07] <I_C_WIENER> does somebody use the latest cedega?
[11:07] <clem_yeats> substract the umask value to 777. The result is the default chmod value
[11:08] <frisbeboy> default chmod value?
[11:08] <ubuntu> Why is totem xine not apt-gettng?
[11:08] <Madpilot> good night/morning/$time_of_day, everyone. I need sleep
[11:08] <kemik> ubuntu:  totem-xine ?
[11:08] <ubuntu> Yes
[11:08] <brenner> ubuntu: cos it's called totem-xine
[11:08] <brenner> night Madpilot
[11:09] <ubuntu> that doesnt help Brenner
[11:09] <ubuntu> still not apting
[11:09] <brenner> ubuntu: need to enable universe
[11:09] <ubuntu> How
[11:09] <brenner> !repos
[11:09] <ubotu> well, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:09] <leyman> hey, so is breezy generally broken right now, or is it just my setup?
[11:09] <nalioth> leyman: breezy is broken
[11:10] <leyman> nalioth, like, broken in really strange glibc-ways?
[11:10] <nalioth> leyman: like not ready for your production machine
[11:11] <leyman> nalioth, yeah, that i know. but see latest three days or so it has rather regressed in to the depths of total unusability
[11:12] <nalioth> leyman: and until you see the fanfare of "Preview Release X of Breezy Badger" it will continue to be a roller coaster
[11:12] <clem_yeats> frisbeboy : default chmod value... I mean, the permission which is given to any new file when created.
[11:13] <leyman> nalioth, yes i know that thank you. i just want a confirmation as to this specific breakage is general or just my causing
[11:13] <brenner> nalioth: hello, haven't seen _you_ in a while. (reka here)
[11:14] <nalioth> brenner: how do you expect to get abused by your peers, if you keep changing your nick?
[11:14] <xerath> hi, I wanna format my 160gig to fat
[11:14] <mypapit> xerath, 160 to fat? omg... lot's of space will be wasted..
[11:14] <xerath> I wanna format my 160 gig to fat so I can read it from windows and linux, whats the best program to do this with in linux, cfdisk? fdisk?
[11:14] <brenner> nalioth: in general, i like avoiding abuse. :)
[11:15] <nalioth> xerath: there are ext2/3 drivers for XP
[11:15] <mypapit> xerath, mkfs.vfat will do, assuming you already have 160gig partition
[11:15] <xerath> nalioth: really? since when?
[11:15] <kamstrup> nalioth: True? I've been searching for that
[11:15] <xerath> I know vfat is a shit partition type
[11:15] <nalioth> xerath: kamstrup y'all search at sourceforge
[11:15] <mypapit> xerath, ext2fs driver have been there for windows quite some time...
[11:15] <xerath> nalioth: do they support write access
[11:15] <nalioth> xerath: yup
[11:16] <mypapit> xerath, they do support write access... but no journalling support though
[11:16] <rapha> Hi all!
[11:16] <rapha> How can you tell apt-get not to update some packages?
[11:16] <kamstrup> xerath: setup the partitions with fdisk and do 'mkfs.vfat /dev/hdX'
[11:16] <ilba7r> xerath you can write or read from them only but you can not open files from window
[11:16] <xerath> umm ok well then I'll format my drive as ext3 and install kamstrup on xp, better than vfat I think
[11:17] <j-mi> is there a way to install splashy with the actual official version of libc6 (dsl-22ubuntu14)?
[11:17] <kamstrup> xerath: Install _me_ on XP?
[11:17] <nalioth> rapha: search the wiki.ubuntu.com for "pinning"
[11:17] <rapha> thx nalioth!
[11:17] <kamstrup> xerath: :-D
[11:17] <j-mi> I mean 20ubuntu-14
[11:17] <xerath> haha typo
[11:17] <kamstrup> xerath: I'm not sure I'd be comfy in your hd...
[11:18] <brenner> is kamstrup really better than vfat?
[11:18] <kemik> rapha:  or use synaptic
[11:18] <kamstrup> brenner: yes I'm atomic and journaling
[11:18] <mypapit> kamstrup, seems that your nick have received a new meaning..
[11:18] <brenner> :)
[11:19] <kamstrup> brenner: Just showe a slice of pizza through the cd-drive every week and I'll be happy
[11:19] <xerath> ilba7r: isnt read access , opening the files?
[11:19] <ws010> solo
[11:19] <ws010> hi................
[11:20] <clem_yeats> xerath : he probably meant opening folders..
[11:20] <ilba7r> xerath if you use ext2fs it just a small program (utility) to copy files from unix partition to a window one.
[11:21] <ilba7r> or vice versa
[11:21] <ilba7r> at least that the ver i am using
[11:22] <j-mi> is there a way to install splashy with the actual official version of libc6 (dsl-20ubuntu14)?
[11:22] <nalioth> xerath: kamstrup: y'all have a look at sourceforge for ext2fs
[11:23] <ilba7r> nalioth was it updated recently ?
[11:23] <nalioth> ilba7r: not sure, i run ppc so have no use for it
[11:24] <ilba7r> nalioth fair enough
[11:26] <ubuntu> I just downloaded totem-xine which works thank god, but i dont have any sound
[11:26] <ubuntu> what can i do
[11:27] <xerath> hey
[11:27] <kamstrup> nalioth: Ok found... Looks like the ext2fsd driver from ext2fs is the right solution
[11:27] <xerath> anyone know of a cool cpu monitor I can stick on my desktop...
[11:27] <xerath> ubuntu: try mplayer
[11:27] <brenner> ubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[11:27] <xerath> kamstrup: for?
[11:27] <Uthini> yeah ubuntu, mplayer is the leet
[11:28] <kamstrup> nalioth, xerath : does ext2fs really work? I didn't know that you could write FS drivers for win
[11:28] <ubuntu> ok
[11:28] <ubuntu> apt-get mplayer
[11:28] <brenner> flippin mplayer lovers. :)
[11:28] <Uthini> lol brenner, its okay, well save sum luvin 4 u :P
[11:28] <kamstrup> xerath: for making an ext2 partition visible in windows
[11:29] <ubuntu> it wont find mplayer
[11:29] <rapha> nalioth: that helped
[11:29] <rapha> kemik: thx; i'd rather stay on the command line right now
[11:29] <rapha> bye!
[11:29] <kamstrup> xerath: it has to show up as an odinary filesystem or else WinAmp won't be able to use it I guess
[11:30] <ubuntu> what repository was mplayer in so i can simply add it
[11:30] <brenner> ok, my turn to ask a question ... aattempting an apt-get upgrade, i get this: The following packages have been kept back: <list of packages>   what's up with that?
[11:30] <brenner> ubuntu: multiverse iirc
[11:31] <xerath> ubuntu: search for synaptic package manager
[11:31] <xerath> I mean in it
[11:31] <Uthini> brenner, output msg?
[11:31] <ubuntu> I am in synaptic
[11:31] <ubuntu> I need the http or deb for the repository
[11:31] <maan84> Anyone know how I build Mplayer from CVS? I read that I might have to do that to be able to play H264 encodes? (MKV)
[11:31] <ubuntu> link
[11:31] <brenner> Uthini: you want the full thing?
[11:31] <Uthini> yeah ubuntu try sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[11:31] <brenner> !repos
[11:31] <ubotu> methinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:31] <kamstrup> brenner: Breezy I assume?
[11:32] <brenner> kamstrup: er, nope
[11:32] <Uthini> brenner: put on one of the paste thingies, or paste to me in PVT
[11:33] <brenner> i *have* enabled backports though
[11:34] <cyphase> does ubuntu have any thing that allows you to switch users while staying logged on?
[11:34] <cyphase> besides XNest
[11:34] <brenner> Uthini: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1631
[11:35] <Uthini> cyphase: you meant without using the System Tools -> New Login screen?
[11:35] <cyphase> yea
[11:35] <cyphase> or the fullscreen one
[11:35] <ompaul> cyphase, what exactly would this tool look like?
[11:35] <xerath> anyone know of a cool cpu monitor I can stick on my desktop...
[11:35] <cyphase> because with XNest (and the fullscreen login), when you log off the nested account, your asked for the password of the original account
[11:35] <liraz> has anyone here got a bluetooth headset up and running in linux or is familiar with bluez? I have a problem(my stuff worked fine in fedora, so I know it's not the hardware)...
[11:35] <mae> oh man, ooo 2.0 is nice
[11:36] <mae> watchout redmond!
[11:36] <brenner> xerath: gkrellm maybe?
[11:36] <Nermal> xerath, gdesklets ?
[11:36] <liraz> I get Error: Failed to connect to SDP server: Permission denied. and Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Permission denied
[11:36] <cyphase> is there anyhing that makes it work like XP's Switch User functionality?
[11:36] <nalioth> xerath: gdesklets or superkaramba have much eyecandy of that sort
[11:36] <ompaul> cyphase, that is to protect the user of the first desktop - so there is no insecure way to do that securely
[11:36] <brenner> Uthini: any ideas?
[11:36] <cyphase> i know...
[11:36] <JavaManiaC> hiii all ....
[11:36] <Uthini> brenner: all repositories are enabled?
[11:36] <ompaul> cyphase, to coin  phrase
[11:36] <JavaManiaC> im from Indonesia
[11:36] <ompaul> cyphase, to coin  a phrase even
[11:36] <JavaManiaC> im beginer in Linux
[11:37] <Uthini> but some of those are in the ubuntu repos
[11:37] <Nermal> JavaManiaC, thanks for the info
[11:37] <brenner> Uthini: src repos are disbaled
[11:37] <cyphase> but i want people to be able to log off and on without the user of the first desktop having to type in a password
[11:37] <cyphase> i don't want their to be a "first desktop"
[11:38] <Uthini> brenner: doesn't make sense tho, cos all those packages are from the ubuntu repos
[11:38] <ompaul> cyphase, I do not consider such a thing useful so I will not develop it, otoh you have expressed an interest, so I will leave it with you :)
[11:38] <cyphase> lol, so there isn't anything like that
[11:38] <Uthini> cyphase: why would u want that neways?
[11:38] <cyphase> i don't have any use for it really..
[11:39] <cyphase> but most people would need something like that
[11:39] <ompaul> cyphase, no they would not
[11:39] <cyphase> how would they do it then?
[11:39] <cyphase> keep creating new logins with Syetm -> New Login
[11:39] <cyphase> ?
[11:40] <cyphase> waaaait a second
[11:40] <ompaul> cyphase, just because some random company has insecure ways for allowing people to share a machine does not mean that the rest of the world should go over the edge to follow them
[11:40] <Uthini> cyphase: u do realise that ctrl + alt + F7 - F12 flicks between those desks
[11:40] <ompaul> and the screensaver password will kick in
[11:40] <nalioth> cyphase: and i see a massive system drain when you open 4 or 5 xservers
[11:41] <ompaul> nalioth, some crystal ball that :)
[11:41] <Uthini> so this is officially off-topic for me
[11:41] <cyphase> lemme give you an example..
[11:42] <cyphase> John is using the computer to download something..
[11:42] <JavaManiaC> hiii all
[11:42] <Uthini> hi JavaManiaC
[11:42] <ompaul> JavaManiaC, hello
[11:42] <cyphase> Sue wants to use the computer, but John doesn't want to log off, or else the download will stop..
[11:42] <JavaManiaC> why ?
[11:42] <cyphase> what would they do?
[11:43] <xerath> is ext2fsd stable?
[11:44] <Uthini> cyphase: system -> new login
[11:44] <Uthini> and sue gets to work
[11:44] <cyphase> ok..
[11:44] <nalioth> xerath: it's as stable as Windows XP
[11:44] <cyphase> but what if she wants to log off..
[11:44] <cyphase> and Sam wants to log in
[11:44] <funkyHat> cyphase, this is already possible in debian (the X Screensaver password prompt has a button for new session) i assume it would be quite easy to get the same thing working in ubuntu
[11:44] <cyphase> i mean..
[11:44] <cyphase> what if she wants to stay on
[11:44] <cyphase> and sam wants to log in
[11:44] <ompaul> cyphase, the screen for john gets password protected - and sue gets to work - where is the problem
[11:45] <funkyHat> that's what that does
[11:45] <Uthini> cyphase: sys -> new login?
[11:45] <nalioth> ompaul: cyphase wants 3 users on 3 xservers at the same time
[11:45] <leyman> funkyHat, it's there in breezy
[11:45] <cyphase> nalioth, no, i don't
[11:45] <redguy> cyphase: since John propably doesn't want Sue to find out that he is downloading pr0n, he locks the screen and Sue creates e new session and logs in. After Sue has done her work she logs off and John has to give his password to unlock his display.
[11:45] <funkyHat> there you go cyphase ;) (what leyman said ^)
[11:45] <ompaul> cyphase, ctrl+F7 back to johns screen and when sue wants to finish her download ctrl+F8
[11:45] <cyphase> redguy, what if she wants to stay on too?>
[11:46] <nalioth> cyphase: you want john logged in d/l, sue logged in ,and sam wants in too (thats 3 folks)
[11:46] <Uthini> cyphase: learn your shortcuts, you can switch between active screens
[11:46] <Whistler> sudo chown admin /home/admin/Desktop/planeshift
[11:46] <Uthini> and leave them active
[11:46] <Whistler> i do this
[11:46] <Uthini> cyphase: what are are areguing for exists
[11:46] <Whistler> but it only makes the main folder belong to me
[11:46] <Whistler> i want all subfolders and files to belong to me
[11:47] <funkyHat> cyphase, locking the screen is staying logged on
[11:47] <Uthini> is there no recursive switch?
[11:47] <cyphase> Uthini, is there a GUi like thing for it
[11:47] <Uthini> like -r?
[11:47] <cyphase> i can use shortcuts np..
[11:47] <ompaul> cyphase, I just answered you, read it you can swap back and forth but you willllllllllll put in a password as you jump back and forth - now if you wanted to think about this a little you could 'share the desktop' using the desktop switcher which is located on the bottom right of your screen offering you 4 screens and ...
[11:47] <cyphase> but not everyone can
[11:47] <Uthini> cyphase: ctrl + desk number
[11:48] <cyphase> lol
[11:48] <Uthini> why you want GUI for what can be done in 2 keystrokes?
[11:48] <cyphase> maybe i'm not putting my point across well
[11:48] <ompaul> cyphase, leave the theory for some with a real problem to get help with - and read what I said you are now trolling
[11:48] <Uthini> its a waste of code and resources
[11:48] <cyphase> it's late..
[11:48] <ompaul> cyphase, no its 10:48 am :)
[11:48] <cyphase> yea, exactly
[11:48] <ompaul> it is always morning on irc and always sunday
[11:49] <Tom_W> lol
[11:49] <funkyHat> cyphase, also, once 'sue' logs out, it will go to the display manager, and there will be an extra button at the bottom- 'quit' which will take you back to 'john's locked screen
[11:49] <cyphase> funkyHat, actually, it doesn't even go to the display screen
[11:49] <cyphase> just so you know:)
[11:49] <ompaul> I suggest we leave cyphase to troll alone
[11:49] <cyphase> ompaul, i'm not trolling
[11:49] <funkyHat> does for me ;)
[11:49] <cyphase> i was just speaking in a stupid way :)
[11:50] <Uthini> guys, what cyphase wants is 1 central screen that manages all the desks, shows which users are logged in and allows u to click 1 to log in, mite i suggest windows?
[11:50] <Uthini> rhyemes with XP i think
[11:50] <cyphase> *sigh*
[11:50] <ompaul> cyphase, see what Uthini suggested that seems like what you want
[11:50] <ompaul> Uthini, not powerful enough for me though :)
[11:51] <Uthini> lol ompaul, i shunned the evils of windows
[11:51] <Uthini> LOL
[11:51] <ompaul> Uthini, I did 10 years ago
[11:51] <Uthini> although windows is for more idiot friendly
[11:51] <Uthini> its way too easy for an idiot like me to lose 10GB of data on rotten partitions LOLOL
[11:51] <ompaul> Uthini, perhaps, don't hang out in those circles :)
[11:51] <Tom_W> try Gentoo its easy enough :)
[11:51] <Uthini> thats what i did last nite
[11:51] <cyphase> lol
[11:52] <Tom_W> its what ive got on this laptop
[11:52] <Uthini> then i tried to create an image of my 80gb hd so i could try & salvage it
[11:52] <cyphase> one more question..
[11:52] <funkyHat> Tom_W, yeah, you can install it with only 3 lines right? ;)
[11:52] <cyphase> what if more then 6 people log on?
[11:52] <cyphase> ;)
[11:52] <funkyHat> shame the first one is 6 pages long
[11:52] <Uthini> needless to say I have 2 drives, a 30gb, and a 80gb, if i was making an image of the 80gb where was it going u mite ask?
[11:53] <Tom_W> one emerge ---------------
[11:53] <Uthini> cyphase: then the 7th sap uses a command prompt :P
[11:53] <Tom_W> VERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.11-gentoo-r2-prostar [i686/3.80GHz/SMP] 
[11:54] <noobiedoobiedo> hi, the command "apt-get install sun-j2re1.5" fails 4 me
[11:54] <Tom_W> java stinks
[11:54] <SolidRaven> uh, how do you uninstall or reset the hotplug system without beign able to boot into ubuntu?
[11:54] <noobiedoobiedo> and i've added the extra repos...
[11:54] <ompaul> cyphase, you need more licences for Windows to do that of and if you that as a _trolling_ question you can actually have F1-12 as the buttons but it not best practice you really should get another machine
[11:54] <funkyHat> noobiedoobiedo, did you add the repositories that the tutorial told you to add, and then do 'apt-get update'
[11:54] <Tom_W> well Sun does and that makes java have a stinch
[11:54] <noobiedoobiedo> funkyHat, I did
[11:54] <yoav> hi
[11:55] <Tom_W> hi
[11:55] <yoav> I am new to Ubuntu and trying to install Java
[11:55] <Uthini> noobiedoobiedo: error/fail msg
[11:55] <Uthini> yoav: pay close attention to noobiedoobiedo's questions/answers he is doing the same as you
[11:55] <noobiedoobiedo> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[11:55] <Tom_W> is the jre in the universe packages?
[11:55] <Tom_W> ive never looked
[11:55] <SolidRaven> can somebody tell me how to uninstall the hotplug system without beign able to boot into ubuntu?
[11:55] <funkyHat> !tell yoav and noobiedoobiedo about java
[11:56] <Uthini> noobiedoobiedo: apt-cache search sun
[11:56] <yoav> I got stuck on the make-jpkg
[11:56] <yoav> seems like I don't have this
[11:56] <Uthini> yoav: are you using apt?
[11:56] <highvoltage> Hi, how do I enable the web configuration from cups again?
[11:57] <funkyHat> yoav, you need to install it "apt-get install make-jpkg"
[11:57] <andre80> help
[11:57] <andre80> help
[11:57] <SolidRaven> yoav > you do have gcc installed, do you?
[11:57] <yoav> Uthini: I donwloaded the .bin from Sun
[11:57] <noobiedoobiedo> Uthini, what am I looking for?
[11:57] <andre80> help
[11:57] <yoav> I tried to apt-get make-jpkg
[11:57] <highvoltage> I know i have to change something in the cupsd.conf file, but i forgot what.
[11:57] <Uthini> noobiedoobiedo: sun-j2re
[11:57] <yoav> but it doesn't work, says package is unknown
[11:57] <andre80> I m running on an internet shared
[11:57] <Uthini> sumthing along those lines
[11:57] <funkyHat> yoav, apt-get INSTALL make-jpkg
[11:57] <ompaul> !tell andre80  about question and ask
[11:57] <Uthini> i can't be more specific cos i'm @ the office in winbloze
[11:57] <noobiedoobiedo> Uthini, it's not there.
[11:57] <ompaul> !tell andre80  about question
[11:57] <funkyHat> oh right
[11:57] <ompaul> !tell andre80  about ask
[11:58] <funkyHat> yoav, have you added universe and multiverse repositories?
[11:58] <highvoltage> !cups
[11:58] <ubotu> highvoltage: I give up, what is it?
[11:58] <Uthini> noobiedoobiedo: try searching with wild cards
[11:58] <SolidRaven> !coffee
[11:58] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, SolidRaven
[11:58] <yoav> still get 'can't find package'
[11:58] <andre80> I m using an internet shared, the server is windows, after sometimes idle, I cannot connect to internet again until Irestart ubuntu
[11:58] <SolidRaven> :|
[11:58] <yoav> on  make-jpkg
[11:59] <noobiedoobiedo> apt-cache search jre2 = no results
[11:59] <andre80> I m using an internet shared, the server is windows, after sometimes idle, I cannot connect to internet again until Irestart ubuntu
[11:59] <Uthini> andre80: thats a magical error, what kind of connection are you one?
[11:59] <andre80> please help
[11:59] <yoav> how do I add the multiverse reps?
[11:59] <yoav> what is the line to add to sources.list
[11:59] <Uthini> andre80: don't spam there are over 400 ppl in here
[11:59] <funkyHat> !repositories
[11:59] <ubotu> well, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:59] <andre80> GPRS
[12:00] <funkyHat> yoav, see what ubotu said
[12:00] <yoav> yea, I am looking into it, thanks
[12:00] <Uthini> !GPRS
[12:00] <ubotu> Uthini: I give up, what is it?
[12:00] <Uthini> lol
[12:00] <Uthini> darn can't cop out on this one
[12:00] <SolidRaven> noobiedoobiedo > try to search for jre and not for jre2 for once :)
[12:00] <Uthini> SolidRaven has a point noobiedoobiedo
[12:00] <SolidRaven> if you install the first version you should be able to upgrade it :)
[12:01] <noobiedoobiedo> SolidRaven, 4 results, none to do with jre.
[12:01] <SolidRaven> mhh, the java sdk has the runtime to
[12:02] <andre80> I use GPRS connection shared on a windows box
[12:02] <andre80> I connect via network cable
[12:02] <andre80> using an ubuntu box
[12:02] <clem_yeats> JRE is a subset of JDK
[12:02] <SolidRaven> i know
[12:02] <Uthini> but JDK is huge
[12:02] <Uthini> in south african terms
[12:02] <Uthini> LOL
[12:02] <clem_yeats> 60 Mb..
[12:02] <noobiedoobiedo> i have 4 universe sources and 2 multiverse
[12:02] <SolidRaven> not that huge
[12:03] <andre80> why not download jre from sun ?
[12:03] <andre80> I use j2se from sun and its fine
[12:03] <SolidRaven> i downloaded it over a ultra slow wireless network in 10minutes
[12:03] <noobiedoobiedo> i'm trying to get everything apt-get style
[12:05] <funkyHat> noobiedoobiedo, the sun-j2re pakage isn't in any of the repositories you have
[12:05] <funkyHat> it's in hoary extras
[12:05] <funkyHat> (or something ;))
[12:06] <maz> wow this is cool
[12:06] <noobiedoobiedo> funkyHat, oh because the unofficial guide says "add these reposo's" then "do this apt-get command" ... which fails.
[12:06] <maz> has anyone been able to get wmv files to play?  I can't play them in either xmms or realplayer
[12:06] <Tom_W> mplayer
[12:06] <TraceGreen> maz, play **.wav
[12:06] <yoav> I got all the reps enabled, beside two source reps, but still I can't get make-jpkg, and get a package not found, I even added the unofficial hoary extras rep, but nothing
[12:06] <maz> i downloaded all the codecs on the ubuntuguide
[12:07] <maz> ok thanks Tom and Trace
[12:07] <andre80> do apt has eclipse ?
[12:07] <noobiedoobiedo> i have 12 sources total
[12:07] <funkyHat> noobiedoobiedo, we don't like the unofficial guide ;) follow the wiki on installing java
[12:07] <noobiedoobiedo> funkyHat, thanks
[12:07] <funkyHat> !tell noobiedoobiedo about java
[12:07] <helloyo> using the fantastic e17, but i can't install eutils without eterm, which can't be installed, any ideas?
[12:07] <noobiedoobiedo> maz, try mplayer or xine
[12:07] <maz> thanks peeps - just tried 'play' and the command wasn't found
[12:07] <Tom_W> yea xine is a good video tool as well
[12:08] <andre80> test
[12:08] <andre80> ping
[12:08] <Tom_W> avifile plays divx movies
[12:08] <andre80> .ping andre80
[12:08] <Tom_W> pong
[12:08] <Uthini> andre80: search it
[12:09] <maz> so does this mean xmms is inherently unable to play wmv files?
[12:09] <Ng> maz: do you have the w32codecs package installed?
[12:09] <yoav> about the make-jpkg, anyone?
[12:09] <helloyo> how do i get apt-get to install with an unmet dependancy?
[12:09] <Tom_W> google is your friend............
[12:09] <azol> re. Where can I explanation about ununtu "distrivution's". I mean: hoary, hoary-security, hoary-updates, hoary-backports and sections main, restricted, universe, multiverse. Who is who?
[12:09] <maz> yes Ng, I installed w32codecs
[12:09] <maz> they are up to date too
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ping ?
[12:10] <scanwinder> when i have an msn(havent tried other ones) convo in gaim, the scrollbar wont default to been at the bottom and i have to scroll down every time that i send/get a new message, anyone know of a solution to this problem?
[12:10] <maz> extremely happy with ubuntu - it spanks my old Win98 and red hat 9
[12:10] <clem_yeats> azol : these are called repositories
[12:10] <helloyo> how do i force apt-get to install?
[12:10] <clem_yeats> !repositories
[12:10] <ubotu> [repositories]  probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:10] <Ng> maz: that's a shame, it could be that the stream is encoded with all the very latest WMP things and the w32codecs package is just lagging :/
[12:10] <Tom_W> xmms is for mp3's and audio real well it speaks for its self Real content .. xine or mplayer is a shure bet
[12:10] <maz> can even do video editing... never worked that out on red had nine
[12:10] <maz> that's possible Ng - see what Tom_W just wrote too
[12:10] <Ng> yeah
[12:11] <tenco> why is adept over 50 megs big?
[12:11] <helloyo> how do i force apt-get to install?
[12:11] <Ng> helloyo: generally you really don't want to ;)
[12:11] <tenco> sorry, false chan...
[12:11] <maz> by the way folks, this is my first time in a chatroom, so let me know if I'm breaching the etiquette
[12:11] <maz> :)
[12:11] <Tom_W> your fine
[12:11] <helloyo> Ng, yeah, i'm just being really impatient playing with e17, eutils wont install because eterm isn't there
[12:12] <clem_yeats> maz: careful, this is highly addictive ! :)
[12:12] <Uthini> lol @ maz, if you stay that polite you wouldn't breach the etiquette with a barge pole
[12:12] <Ng> helloyo: it may be too old, but eterm is in universe (0.9.2)
[12:12] <maz> Tom_W - Thanks mate - I am now watching my fatman scoop filmclips and bopping like a champ
[12:12] <maz> lol thanks clem, I'll be careful
[12:12] <helloyo> Ng, thanks
[12:12] <clem_yeats> maz: if you begin to have it in the morning... you known you've gone too far. :)
[12:13] <maz> lol clem - not speaking from experience are ya?
[12:13] <helloyo> Ng, awesome! i missed those repositories on this box
[12:13] <Ng> helloyo: :)
[12:13] <Tom_W> well ive always said the beast thig about Linux is the people who use it!
[12:13] <Tom_W> best
[12:13] <Tom_W> typo
[12:13] <Uthini> clem_yeats: i sign on too irc as part of my settling into the office routine
[12:13] <helloyo> has everyone tried e17? all i can say is... amazing...
[12:13] <clem_yeats> Uthini : same here :)
[12:14] <helloyo> i haven't seen eye candy this good ever, let along this damn fast
[12:14] <clem_yeats> Uthini : a bit of chat between two builds
[12:14] <maz> Tom_W you're not Tom Waits by any chance?  I'm a great fan of the "Rain Dogs" album
[12:14] <maz> ;-)
[12:14] <clem_yeats> helloyo : it looks really nice. Frugalware comes with it preinstalled I think
[12:15] <Uthini> lol maz, i found tim willits' ICQ UIN once, needless to say he never spoke to me :)
[12:15] <maz> lol Uthini
[12:15] <Tom_W> sorry im just me
[12:15] <maz> well Tom_W just quit, maybe I blew his cover
[12:15] <maz> oh ok you're back now lol
[12:15] <Uthini> lol
[12:15] <Tom_W> ?
[12:16] <Tom_W> never left
[12:16] <clem_yeats> Tom_W : rename as "me" :) Tom_W is highly misleading :))
[12:16] <maz> oh ok... I had "Tom_W has quite (Read error etc...)"
[12:16] <Tom-W> i left on my ubuntu box
[12:16] <Ng> it was just a small network blip :)
[12:16] <maz> who else is in Australia?
[12:16] <clem_yeats> my sister's there at the moment.
[12:17] <scanwinder> when i have an msn(havent tried other ones) convo in gaim, the scrollbar wont default to been at the bottom and i have to scroll down every time that i send/get a new message, anyone know of a solution to this problem?
[12:17] <clem_yeats> she's not connected to the chat though
[12:17] <helloyo> maz, me!
[12:17] <Tom_W> im in NC
[12:17] <Tom_W> usa
[12:17] <maz> cool helloyo, Canberra here
[12:17] <helloyo> maz, sydneysider here
[12:17] <scanwinder> im in australia...perth
[12:17] <maz> cool clem, where is she in Aust?
[12:17] <maz> I'm keen to get to NY, probably next year Tom_W
[12:17] <clem_yeats> maz: do you also live in Canberra or you just work there ?
[12:17] <Whistler> how is nvu editor package called?
[12:17] <concept10> ahhh...perth
[12:17] <concept10> i love perth
[12:17] <maz> from Perth originally, but now live and work in Canberra
[12:17] <Uthini> Tom-W: north carolina?
[12:17] <clem_yeats> maz: at the moment she's in Alice Springs
[12:17] <maz> Perth is cool
[12:18] <maz> oops I read NY instead of NC lolo
[12:18] <maz> lol
[12:18] <clem_yeats> maz: there's nothing much in Canberra is there ?
[12:18] <Tom_W> why not go to Boston to the Linux Trade show there
[12:18] <maz> ah, never been to Alice
[12:18] <maz> cool TomW is that always on?
[12:18] <maz> clem - how much does one need?  :)
[12:18] <Tom_W> No its in april 06
[12:18] <andre80> how to search using apt-get ?
[12:18] <maz> sounds good, I could go then - will have to look into it
[12:18] <clem_yeats> maz : I like the kind of cemetery in Canberra.. with the fake people standing up... I though that was really cool.
[12:19] <maz> andre - start up synaptic
[12:19] <maz> lol clem, you just need to find the right "in"
[12:19] <dooglus> hi all.  is X broken in breezy at the moment?
[12:19] <maz> fine pubs, restaurants, lots of motorbike riders, skiing, what more could anyone want?
[12:19] <andre80> I need libxvid
[12:19] <noobiedoobiedo> i tried what the wiki said for JAVA , that didnt work either
[12:20] <clem_yeats> maz : well.. it was interesting.. I staid there for two days.
[12:20] <concept10> maz, are you talking about perth?
[12:20] <clem_yeats> no, Canberra
[12:20] <Tom_W> http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12BOS06A/
[12:20] <maz> Canberra, concept, but Perth is the best of the bunch
[12:20] <dooglus> andre80: "libxvidcore4"?
[12:20] <clem_yeats> I'd love to go to Perth, never got the opportunity
[12:20] <maz> $400 will get ya there clem - worth every cent
[12:20] <maz> very fine town
[12:20] <scanwinder> lol i wanna get out of perth........(never been out of perth)
[12:21] <concept10> I was in the US Navy and I have been to 5 different Australian cities, the women love sailors :)
[12:21] <andre80> I need to play divx
[12:21] <clem_yeats> well, it's a bit more expensive than that from where I am.. (Ireland)
[12:21] <Tom_W> avifile
[12:21] <maz> some of those sailors are trouble
[12:21] <maz> home you're not one of those concept
[12:21] <concept10> maz, true :)
[12:21] <maz> lol ok clem, thought you were in Sydney
[12:21] <clem_yeats> I've been there, but that was holidays
[12:21] <Tom_W> andre80 try avifile it plays divx movies well also mplayer and xine
[12:21] <dooglus> is X broken in breezy at the moment?
[12:22] <clem_yeats> I'm in Galway/Athlone in Ireland
[12:22] <concept10> maz, Is it true the Aussie guys dont like the sailors? (I never had trouble myself)
[12:22] <maz> some of the sailors start fights
[12:22] <Tom_W> why the americans try to take there wemon?
[12:23] <maz> it depends which women.  if her boyfriend is there of course trouble will ensue
[12:23] <clem_yeats> I thought the aboriginal in general took really badly alcohol..
[12:23] <concept10> Tom_W, thats not true
[12:23] <Tom_W> i just ask why?
[12:23] <Ng> should this conversation not be in #sailors? ;)
[12:23] <Tom_W> why dont they like salors then?
[12:23] <clem_yeats> they tend to become aggresive when drunk, while they're usually quite peaceful during the day.
[12:23] <concept10> What do you mean, *take*
[12:23] <clem_yeats> of course this is a generality.
[12:23] <Uthini> maz: how many south african ppl have you met?
[12:23] <maz> lmao ... i'd better withdraw from this discussion
[12:24] <maz> a fair few Uthini, there's a lot in Perth
[12:24] <concept10> j/k
[12:24] <clem_yeats> oh my !!
[12:24] <dooglus> this should be in #ubuntu-offtopic probably
[12:24] <Tom_W> flame war
[12:24] <scanwinder> ..we dont have flamethrowers in perth...............
[12:25] <Uthini> maz: i'm south african, half our population is all over the world :P
[12:25] <Tom_W> lol
[12:25] <maz> lol
[12:25] <andre80> where can I get avifile ?
[12:25] <maz> sorry to cause trouble in here peeps
[12:25] <maz> i'm off to get a beer
[12:25] <maz> loll
[12:25] <Uthini> andre80: what?
[12:26] <Tom-W> synaptic
[12:26] <andre80> where can I get avifile ?
[12:26] <Tom-W> its in the universe packages
[12:26] <bimberi> !find avifile
[12:26] <clem_yeats> Uthini : same story here with the Irish :)
[12:26] <Uthini> :) clem_yeats
[12:26] <bimberi> !+find avifile
[12:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'avifile' (10 shown): avifile-divx-plugin ;; avifile-mad-plugin ;; avifile-mjpeg-plugin ;; avifile-player ;; avifile-utils ;; avifile-vorbis-plugin ;; avifile-win32-plugin ;; avifile-xvid-plugin ;; libavifile-0.7-dev ;; libavifile-0.7c102.
[12:26] <Uthini> andre80: avifile.sourceforge.net
[12:26] <dooglus> is there a script to start GNOME if gdm isn't running?
[12:27] <Tom-W> applications/system tools/ add remove programs/ advanced
[12:27] <bimberi> andre80: avifile-player perhaps
[12:27] <clem_yeats> dooglus : can't relaunch gdm ?
[12:27] <dooglus> clem_yeats: if I run GNOME from gdm it hangs as soon as I log in.
[12:28] <Tom-W> it is a fine program ive used it since version .10
[12:28] <dooglus> clem_yeats: all I see is a brown screen.  no wallpaper, just dark brown
[12:28] <andre80> I open synaptic and I don't see avifile
[12:28] <Tom-W> search
[12:29] <clem_yeats> dooglus : try startx
[12:29] <andre80> can I use apt-get ?
[12:29] <dooglus> clem_yeats: "startx startkde" runs KDE.  I'm wondering which script to tell startx to run for GNOME
[12:29] <Ng> avifile is in universe and split into several packages (e.g. avifile-player)
[12:29] <dooglus> clem_yeats: if I just run "startx" on its own I get 3 xterms and no window manager.
[12:29] <Ng> and yes you can use apt-get to install it
[12:29] <andre80> I search for avi and finds nothing, it looks like I have to build from source, no ?
[12:29] <Tom-W> edit /etc/apt/sources.list and unselect universe
[12:30] <clem_yeats> dooglus: you have to set your default wm in one of the X conf file... I just don't know which one :)
[12:30] <Tom-W> and then search and it will be there
[12:30] <onkarshinde> What is purpose of backports repository?
[12:30] <Ng> andre80: you need to enable the universe repository, then do "apt-cache search avifile", you should see about 11 matches
[12:30] <concept10> im installing movable type, what cgi-bin directory should I use?
[12:30] <clem_yeats> dooglus : look on google for "default wm" "startx"
[12:30] <Ng> onkarshinde: for people who are too impatient to wait for the next release of ubuntu
[12:31] <Ng> onkarshinde: it includes newer versions of a few programs than are found in the base hoary repositories
[12:31] <onkarshinde> Ng: Are these backports for new features in apps or just bug fixes?
[12:31] <Tom-W> i see 7 you dont need the dev stuff
[12:31] <onkarshinde> Ng: Ok got the answer
[12:31] <dooglus> clem_yeats: I can't really google - I can't run GNOME.
[12:31] <clem_yeats> dooglus : you can use links
[12:31] <scanwinder> when i have an msn(havent tried other ones) convo in gaim, the scrollbar wont default to been at the bottom and i have to scroll down every time that i send/get a new message, anyone know of a solution to this problem?
[12:31] <clem_yeats> dooglus : or lynx, or links2
[12:32] <twibbler> does anybody know which package contains the qmake command ?.
[12:32] <onkarshinde> What is 'reboot=b' kernel boot option for? I am having trouble rebooting my laptop.
[12:32] <andre80> how to enable the universe repository ?
[12:33] <Uthini> andre80: !repositories
[12:33] <Tom-W>  edit /etc/apt/sources.list and unselect universe
[12:33] <onkarshinde> andre80: Just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment universe
[12:33] <Tom-W> remove the #
[12:33] <cusco> hello!
[12:33] <onkarshinde> What is 'reboot=b' kernel boot option for? I am having trouble rebooting my laptop.
[12:33] <Uthini> hi cusco
[12:33] <andre80> !repositories
[12:33] <ubotu> [repositories]  probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:33] <cusco> I have a small problem!!! ubuntuguide has my ip blocked or something
[12:34] <deFrysk> cusco, its a bad resource anyway
[12:34] <Uthini> cusco: mite i advise against forum hacking :P
[12:34] <bimberi> twibbler: qt3-dev-tools (tip: http://packages.ubuntu.com provides a package search facility :) )
[12:34] <twibbler> thank you bimberi...
[12:34] <cusco> lolol! oki dooki then
[12:34] <bimberi> twibbler: yvw :)
[12:36] <Thunder000> which kernel does breezy have ?  can anyone do uname -a plz ?
[12:36] <andre80> thank you
[12:37] <ilba7r> !info gaim-vv
[12:37] <onkarshinde> !breezy kernel
[12:37] <ubotu> onkarshinde: Syntax error in line 1
[12:37] <onkarshinde> !breezy
[12:37] <ubotu> I guess breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[12:37] <ilba7r> will gaim-vv be included in breezy?
[12:37] <Ng> ilba7r: you can search breezy packages on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <maz> random question:  why do I need to be sudo to run "pon dsl-provider"?
[12:38] <ilba7r> thanx ng
[12:38] <onkarshinde> ilba7r: Supposed to be in universe
[12:38] <Ng> and it's in feature freeze now, so that list shouldn't change, although it might not be completely up to date, I'm not sure where it feeds from
[12:38] <maz> and more importantly, how can I set it up so that's not needed?
[12:38] <ilba7r> thanx onkarshinde
[12:38] <ilba7r> you are the best guys take care
[12:39] <onkarshinde> ilba7r: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[12:40] <Ng> maz: what does it say if you run it without sudo?
[12:40] <onkarshinde> Ng: Can you please tell me what is reboot=b kernel boot option for?
[12:40] <_adam> Anyone got any links to where I can get some ge neral linux help, primarily with compiling and installing files?
[12:41] <maz> hmm i'll check that next time I log off Ng - dont' want to do it now as I'm half way through downloading a Tom Waits interview
[12:41] <Ng> onkarshinde: according to a quick google search it means the kernel will use a different method of rebooting the computer to the standard method (which is to use the keyboard controller)
[12:41] <Thunder000> which kernel version does breezy colony 3 have ??
[12:42] <Ng> maz: fair enough. I don't use it, but from what I can see it should allow any user in the "dip" group to initiate a connection
[12:42] <phen> adam: did you try the linux documentation project?  http://www.tldp.org/
[12:42] <webtoe> _adam: try wiki.linuxquestions.org or just www.linuxquestions.org they have guides
[12:42] <maz> dip hey, thanks I'll give that a try
[12:42] <Ng> Thunder000: looks like 2.6.12
[12:42] <Uthini> onkarshinde: its if there is a kernel hang
[12:42] <_adam> Alright, thanks
[12:42] <NoobieDoobieDo> thx all
[12:42] <maz> although a "groups" reveals that I have the dips group
[12:43] <Ng> maz: yeah, you should be by default
[12:43] <Uthini> onkarshinde: did ur last shutdown fail?
[12:43] <Ng> maz: well make a note of the error for when you next come online and ask here, hopefully someone will help :)
[12:43] <Thunder000> how do i upgrade my kernel via apt-get ? i did dist-upgrade but my kernel is the same
[12:44] <onkarshinde> Ng: Uthini: I am having trouble rebooting my HP laptop. No problem in shutdown. And I see this option as default boot option to kernel.
[12:44] <maz> cool Ng that's what I'll do
[12:44] <Uthini> maz: if u ever feel like having random talk then join #randomtalk :P
[12:44] <maz> lol cool Uthini
[12:44] <Uthini> onkarshinde: what problems do u have?
[12:44] <onkarshinde> Thunder000: Have you enabled security repository?
[12:44] <maz> Uthini where can I get a list of the available chatrooms?
[12:44] <Uthini> maz type /list
[12:45] <Uthini> be warned
[12:45] <Uthini> thers alot
[12:45] <onkarshinde> Uthini: When I say reboot, it sends tem signal to all processes. Finalyy it sys rebooting and just hangs.
[12:45] <Thunder000> onkarshinde: ye si did
[12:45] <maz> uh-oh, just typed it... is it about to explode??
[12:45] <clem_yeats> maz: get away from the screen !! :)
[12:45] <Uthini> onkarshinde: that would count as a fail dont u think, the reboot=b is to recover from that
[12:45] <clem_yeats> maz: what kind of channel are you looking for ?
[12:45] <Thunder000> onkarshinde: security repository is enabled
[12:46] <onkarshinde> Thunder000: If you want to install latest kernel probably you will have to compile it yourself. Through repositories you will get only bugfixes and security fixes
[12:46] <Thunder000> from hoary to breezy i have to compile the kernel ?
[12:46] <maz> clem:  channels about tom waits, harleys, athletics, and long walks down the beach lol
[12:47] <onkarshinde> Uthini: Right. But I haven't tried removing that option. So I am not sure that option itself is causing trouble. I have custom version of HP laptop.
[12:47] <clem_yeats> maz... oh.. :)
[12:47] <onkarshinde> Thunder000: Sorry. I thought you were talking about just normal upgrade. In any case breezy is not stable yet. Why do you want to use it?
[12:47] <clem_yeats> maz : the freenode network is full of geeks and most of its channels are computer related..
[12:48] <maz> cool clem, I'll give it a look
[12:48] <Uthini> onkarshinde: i doubt that option is causing the issue here, but try disabling none the less, actually don't take my advice lol.
[12:48] <clem_yeats> maz : to chat about "life" outside the computer room try quakenet, dalnet, efnet, ircnet etc etc
[12:48] <onkarshinde> Uthini: Ok. I will listen to you about not taking your advice. ;-)
[12:48] <Uthini> maz: goto blabber.net
[12:48] <clem_yeats> maz : these are IRC networks, not channels.
[12:49] <maz> ah ok, I get it... so now we're on the freenode IRC network?
[12:50] <bimberi> maz: http://irc.netsplit.de/  <- sortofa irc index site
[12:50] <Uthini> good point yeats
[12:50] <clem_yeats> yes
[12:50] <maz> ok
[12:50] <Uthini> yup maz
[12:50] <clem_yeats> Uthini : you can call me clem
[12:50] <Uthini> aight clem
[12:50] <clem_yeats> :)
[12:51] <clem_yeats> within a network there are servers.. which act like mirrors. When you connect to a server you get connected to the network.. and then you can join channels.
[12:51] <maz> Thanks bimberi - are you from Canberra??
[12:52] <clem_yeats> there is a good website to find good IRC channels whatever network they're on : http://www.searchirc.com
[12:52] <maz> ah, i see
[12:52] <bimberi> maz: aye
[12:52] <maz> cool bimberi... though so
[12:52] <maz> cheers for the link clem
[12:52] <Uthini> rite
[12:52] <clem_yeats> no problem
[12:52] <Uthini> home time
[12:53] <krashed> i have ubuntu installed on vmware and when i install vmware-tools, i get an error
[12:53] <bimberi> maz: from the nick i guess :)
[12:53] <krashed> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:53] <krashed> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[12:53] <krashed> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[12:53] <maz> lol yeah
[12:53] <Uthini> runs*
[12:53] <maz> <------------ hiker
[12:53] <krashed> any advise as to what needs to be done
[12:53] <Tom-W> woo hoo.. ive got 50 apt mirrors now.. every package known to man :) not to kludge the system into a stand still
[12:53] <phen> maybe you should install them?
[12:53] <krashed> how?
[12:53] <bimberi> <---- former hiker (waiting for kids to get old enough)
[12:54] <phen> synaptics
[12:54] <clem_yeats> no ... Krashed..
[12:54] <maz> ah ok... well i guess you could take them on daywalks!
[12:54] <phen> search for linux
[12:54] <Sojek> guys, looking for program for quick switching keyboard layout eg. from franch to spanish
[12:54] <Seveas> krashed, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:54] <clem_yeats> Krashed : you need to install the linux source headers and to make a symbolic link from linux to the headers directory
[12:55] <bimberi> maz: yes, quite often
[12:55] <krashed> thanks :)
[12:55] <fluffybunny_> are there any good plugins available for BMP and where would I find them?
[12:55] <clem_yeats> for BMP ??
[12:56] <Sojek> beep media player
[12:56] <clem_yeats> oh ok..
[12:58] <Seveas> fluffybunny_, the beep media player homepage lists a few
[12:59] <Seveas> they are however not in .deb format and have to be compiled
[12:59] <Bjerrk> could anyone drop me a link to a working script for mounting all my disks? :)
[12:59] <fluffybunny_> Seveas: ah... i think not then :D
[12:59] <phen> fluffy: compiling them isn't a problem
[01:00] <phen> you simply have to install build-essential
[01:00] <phen> and some other things.
[01:00] <Seveas> Bjerrk, not for all disks but for fat/ntfs/hfs+: ubutnulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[01:00] <Tom-W> *LOL* BMP : This release is actually really working now, as in it starts up and runs and doesn't crash (well, eventually still but not as bad as 0.6 ;).
[01:00] <Bjerrk> Seveas: fine :)
[01:00] <fluffybunny_> phen: for a noob? is build-essential in the package manager :) (exWindows user)
[01:00] <phen> it is
[01:00] <phen> query me if you need help. just installed my bmp yesterday :)
[01:01] <onkarshinde> I just installed Ubuntu custom version on HP laptop that is not listed. How do I intimate it to Ubuntu developers what works and what not?
[01:01] <fluffybunny_> do you have the bmp home page url handy?
[01:01] <Seveas> fluffybunny_, for a noob it might be a tad difficult, but not too much
[01:01] <Seveas> install the build-essential and beep-media-player-dev packages
[01:01] <Bjerrk> Seveas: i'm a total n00b :D... Is there any such script? And if there is; could you drop me a link?
[01:01] <Seveas> and read all README files :)
[01:01] <phen> google: http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/BMP_Homepage
[01:01] <Seveas> Bjerrk, I just gave you the link :)
[01:02] <Bjerrk> oh
[01:02] <Bjerrk> sry...
[01:02] <Seveas> fluffybunny_, beepmp.sourceforge.net
[01:02] <Bjerrk> Seveas: does not work :(
[01:02] <fluffybunny_> Seveas: as long as there are readme's that are understandable, i could probably muddle through - its the dependency thing that gets me bogged down sometimes
[01:03] <phen> fluffy: look around your irc client. there should be a privat chat window somewhere :)
[01:04] <Seveas> Bjerrk, what's the problem
[01:04] <Seveas> fluffybunny_, installing beep-media-player-dev overcomes almost all these problems
[01:04] <Seveas> if you have a problem, just let us know :)
[01:04] <Bjerrk> no such page. ubuntulinux.nl aparently doesn't exist...
[01:04] <maz> did anyone ever try using that xsublim package?  this was around a few years ago
[01:05] <Seveas> Bjerrk, ehm, I own that page. it exists.
[01:05] <Tom-W> if i search synaptic it shows version .9.7 and this page shows .6 so i think one is bmp and one is bmpx ......
[01:05] <Bjerrk> i'm unable to connect, though my network is fine.
[01:05] <Tom-W> there not the same i take it :))
[01:05] <Seveas> Bjerrk, try connecting to www.kaarsemaker.net
[01:05] <Seveas> does that work?
[01:05] <webtoe> i can connect to the server fine.....
[01:06] <Bjerrk> Seveas: it does
[01:06] <_adam> I was reading a guide to installing tar.gz files and it said to save to usr/local/src
[01:06] <_adam> however, for some reason i am unable to save to that directory
[01:06] <Akbar> yeah his repository is working..
[01:06] <Bjerrk> _adam: you're not root?
[01:06] <_adam> I am the only account
[01:06] <Bjerrk> but not root?
[01:07] <Seveas> Bjerrk, that's the same server as ubuntulinux.nl so check whether you spelled the name correctly
[01:07] <_adam> How do I switch?
[01:07] <Bjerrk> you have to enable the root account first
[01:07] <Seveas> do NOT enable the root password
[01:07] <Seveas> you do not need it
[01:08] <Akbar> use sudo
[01:08] <Seveas> just use sudo for commands that need elevated privileges
[01:08] <Bjerrk> Seveas: i'd prefer root anytime
[01:08] <_adam> Well...I don't prefer anything
[01:08] <_adam> So which one then
[01:09] <Bjerrk> and another thing, Seveas. The link you posted was ubutnulinux.nl. No wonder i couldn't connect.
[01:09] <Seveas> Bjerrk, ghe, ok
[01:09] <_adam> How do I enable root password?
[01:09] <Bjerrk> np :D
[01:09] <Bjerrk> _adam: in user manager
[01:09] <Seveas> _adam, seriously don't
[01:10] <Akbar> lol
[01:10] <_adam> Security risk?
[01:10] <Seveas> it's bad security practice
[01:10] <Bjerrk> Seveas: not at all'
[01:10] <_adam> Then how do I access sudo?
[01:10] <Akbar> not if you know what you're doing :)
[01:10] <Bjerrk> - the '
[01:10] <Seveas> _adam, like: sudo mkdir /usr/local/src/foo
[01:10] <Bjerrk> _adam: you just type sudo <command>
[01:10] <Bjerrk> and the the command
[01:11] <Bjerrk> *then
[01:11] <_adam> alright thanks
[01:11] <Bjerrk> np.
[01:11] <_adam> Any of you two have AIM?
[01:11] <Bjerrk> no... I prefer MSN :D
[01:11] <_adam> What's your msn name?
[01:12] <Bjerrk> bjerrk@hotmail.com
[01:12] <cyprinus> with which options i should mount NTFS partition to make "cyprinus" user able to have access to it?
[01:12] <Bjerrk> just add me
[01:12] <Bjerrk> :D
[01:12] <dbzdeath> hey i'm having trouble installing vmware workstation on ubuntu amd64 during the configuring of it i get sh: /usr/bin/vmware-ping: No such file or directory trying to execute some of the other binaries via ./filename creates the same result although the files do exist can someone please help me?
[01:12] <_adam> alright, see ya
[01:12] <Akbar> demon:P
[01:12] <_adam> oops, what was your name again
[01:12] <Bjerrk> bjerrk@hotmail.com
[01:12] <cyprinus> ?
[01:12] <Bjerrk> i'll be online in a min.
[01:12] <_adam> thanks
[01:13] <xmachine> ei guys, need help. my X freezes after gdm login.
[01:13] <xmachine> im using x.org
[01:13] <Seveas> cyprinus, uid=cyprinus,gid=cyprinus
[01:13] <Seveas> login in text mode, remove ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority and clean out /tmp
[01:14] <Seveas> ^-- xmachine
[01:15] <Kromonos> hi
[01:15] <Kromonos> how can I install XFree86?
[01:15] <Seveas> don't
[01:15] <Kromonos> why?
[01:15] <Seveas> it's unsupported, will not be upgraded and will soon be removed
[01:16] <bimberi> ubuntu uses xorg
[01:16] <Kromonos> yes, ok, but an i810 Graphics card just made prolems with xorg
[01:17] <xmachine> Seveas, thanks. i'll try that one
[01:17] <tahorg> Kromonos: it should'nt
[01:17] <Kromonos> but it is
[01:17] <Seveas> then solve that problem instead of trying obsolete unsupported software...
[01:18] <maz> OK folks is ".asf" a fair dinkum movie format?  or is it a trojan on limewire?  I've never heard of them is all...
[01:18] <nox_> !ati drivers
[01:18] <ubotu> nox_: I give up, what is it?
[01:18] <nox_> !ati
[01:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:18] <dbzdeath> maz: real format
[01:18] <Kromonos> At the moment I use VESA with an Intel Brookdale graphics card, because if I use i810, my keyboard is just working half the time and the maximum resolution is 640x480
[01:18] <Seveas> .asf is avi streaming format or something loke that
[01:18] <Tom-W> Ubuntu is stooge proof.. geez compaired to Gentoo installing packages is a breeze
[01:18] <Kromonos> but with VESA, X get black, when I close the lit, logoff user or change to tty
[01:19] <Seveas> Tom-W, but on gentoo you wait for KDE to compile for 18 hours and it's 0.001% faster !!!!1111!!!11
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[01:19] <maz> dbzdeath:  cheers mate
[01:19] <maz> Seveas: cool
[01:19] <Tom-W> yea that .0000000000000001 % is why im faster than you..
[01:19] <Seveas> :)
[01:19] <Kromonos> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[01:19] <deFrysk> Seveas, 0.011
[01:19] <Tom-W> ive got Gentoo on my laptop and ubuntu on this desktop
[01:20] <dbzdeath> can anyone here help me please?
[01:20] <Tom-W> ask away
[01:21] <dbzdeath> [19:12]  <dbzdeath> hey i'm having trouble installing vmware workstation on ubuntu amd64 during the configuring of it i get sh: /usr/bin/vmware-ping: No such file or directory trying to execute some of the other binaries via ./filename creates the same result although the files do exist can someone please help me?
[01:21] <Tom-W> why ask for help just ask and save the key stroaks
[01:21] <dbzdeath> because i already did ask :/
[01:22] <Tom-W> i see
[01:22] <Tom-W> oh was reading and didnt notice that
[01:22] <Kromonos> At the moment I use VESA with an Intel Brookdale graphics card, because if I use i810, my keyboard is just working half the time and the maximum resolution is 640x480 but with VESA, X get black, when I close the lit, logoff user or change to tty. lspci output: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Whats wrong?
[01:22] <Tom-W> vmware to run a win program i take it
[01:23] <Tom-W> why not just use Wine ?
[01:23] <dbzdeath> funny that i have the vmware-any-any-update93.tar.gz and the binary in that has the same problem... but it has the source file... so i recompiled it and that works... but of course the other vmware files are closed source :/
[01:23] <dbzdeath> Tom-W: i use vmware for a lot more than windows :P
[01:23] <Tom-W> :-)
[01:23] <dbzdeath> ubuntu should have a vmware package like gentoo :(
[01:24] <Tom-W>  Do not you use devfs, by any chance?
[01:24] <Akbar> but vmware has modules to compile
[01:24] <dbzdeath> Tom-W: i'm not sure... ubuntu uses udev by default? doesn't it?
[01:25] <Akbar> right
[01:25] <dbzdeath> then i am using udev
[01:26] <Tom-W> humm google is your friend.....
[01:27] <Tom-W> sorry i dont use vmware so im not going to be any help
[01:27] <slask3n> Are there really no good apps that makes 1:1 copies including the subchannels of copy protected windows games for linux?? I need something similar to CloneCD just for linux... Or doesn't it exist?
[01:27] <dbzdeath> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1634 have a look at that... weird...
[01:28] <dbzdeath> got me puzzled :/
[01:28] <Seveas> slask3n, linux is not about doing illegal things
[01:28] <Seveas> so such programs are less likely to be found.
[01:28] <slask3n> Seveas: Whats illegal of making an backup of my games??
[01:29] <_daniel> i'm having trouble with using a touchpad with synaptics
[01:30] <fanopnaic> slask3n: doesn't look good. just bug some friend who still has windows :)
[01:30] <dbzdeath> slask3n: try nerolinux ...nero does basically all it does
[01:30] <Kromonos> hmpf
[01:30] <slask3n> Seveas: In my country (Norway) it's perfectly legal to make an backup-copy of a game/movie/CD that I already have bought!
[01:30] <Seveas> in mine too
[01:30] <dbzdeath> i don't think it is in my country (Australia) ... but i'm not sure
[01:31] <fanopnaic> usually it depends on whether you have to circumvent a copy protection or not.
[01:31] <deFrysk> dbzdeath, nothing is sure in australia mate
[01:31] <digis_> i think everywhere is legal, to have a backup copy, of legal product
[01:31] <Ng> digis_: not if you have to circimvent a protection technology, that is becoming more and more illegal around the world after DMCA
[01:31] <dbzdeath> deFrysk: haha yeah ... it sucks here
[01:32] <Ng> "circumvent" rather
[01:32] <slask3n> dbzdeath: nero doesn't make a 1:1 copy, it bypasses the copy protection and don't copy the copy protection as well..
[01:32] <Kromonos> At the moment I use VESA with an Intel Brookdale graphics card, because if I use i810, my keyboard is just working half the time and the maximum resolution is 640x480 but with VESA, X get black, when I close the lit, logoff user or change to tty. lspci output: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Whats wrong?
[01:32] <Seveas> Kromonos: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[01:32] <Kromonos> k
[01:33] <dbzdeath> slashk3n i have no idea if this will work... but i think cat /dev/cdromdevice > file.iso works on linux... then maybe try burning it
[01:33] <webtoe> cat won't work but dd will
[01:33] <dbzdeath> yeah there you go
[01:33] <webtoe> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[01:34] <webtoe> i use that to make copy's of dvd's
[01:34] <dbzdeath> give that a shot slask3n
[01:35] <Nafallo> hi! anyone know how to bring a SB Audigity 2 NX (USB) to life in hoary?
[01:35] <dbzdeath> afaik that you create a copy of everything.. including the protection
[01:35] <dbzdeath> *should
[01:36] <VincentMX> my x won't work. i've done a server install so i can install windowmaker instead of gnome or kde, but now x won't start. even after i have installed it
[01:36] <VincentMX> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
[01:36] <VincentMX> after 0 requests (0 unknown proccesed) with 0 events remaining
[01:36] <dbzdeath> how are you starting it VincentMX ?
[01:37] <VincentMX> startx
[01:37] <dbzdeath> you have xserver-xorg installed? right?
[01:37] <maz> do people here use gaim or amsn?  does gaim work better?
[01:37] <VincentMX> yes i have
[01:37] <slask3n> webtoe: does dd work on encrypted DVD's?
[01:37] <dbzdeath> maz: amsn here... for msn only i'd use amsn ... basically because it did? have better support
[01:38] <deFrysk> maz, try both ans see wich you prefer
[01:38] <Akbar> amsn is ugly as hell :P
[01:38] <fanopnaic> dbzdeath: It's worth a try, but I wouldn't count on it (the backupping solution)
[01:38] <Nafallo> anyone have an answer to my question above?
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[01:39] <Masterkong> heh it's really me who's asking the audigity question... jabber?
[01:39] <Masterkong> oops
[01:40] <maz> dbzdeath: thanks
[01:40] <maz> defrysk: thanks too i guess that's the best way lol
[01:41] <Kromonos> hmpf
[01:41] <maz> that is quite true akbar lol
[01:42] <maz> it's only up to version 0 though lol
[01:42] <Nafallo> Masterkong: have you searched the forum btw? :-)
[01:42] <dbzdeath> .... is fedora core up to version 9?
[01:42] <Akbar> gaim works fine .. only no voice/cam support
[01:42] <maz> now another question:  I've tried working out gnucash but it seems more complicated than I need for personal budgets.  Anyone use a good personal budget application?
[01:42] <Masterkong> what forum?
[01:43] <maz> akbar: i'm not bothered about voice/cam... I've got skype for voice, and I'd rather not be on cam when at the computer lol
[01:43] <Nafallo> Masterkong: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:44] <maz> any aussies - have you got JJJ coming through internet radio?
[01:44] <deFrysk> dbzdeath, who cares it sucks anyway
[01:45] <dbzdeath> deFrysk: i know.. but i'm trying to find a mirror to the vmware rpm(i need a local copy.... i'm capped) ... maybe the tar.gz is screwed
[01:45] <Ng> maz: there are other budget apps, search the bunty repositories for "finance" or "financial" or something like that
[01:45] <deFrysk> dbzdeath, DUNNO BOUT THAT STUFF
[01:45] <deFrysk> oops caps sorry
[01:46] <pmfp> Whenever I press the open button the CD/DVD, it closes immediately after opening, automatically. Same thing if I use the "Eject" function from within Ubuntu... what's wrong?
[01:46] <maz> Ng:  bunty??  What is that?
[01:46] <Ng> maz: I mean ubuntu, sorry
[01:46] <Ng> my friends all started calling it bunty ;)
[01:47] <osfameron> bunty :-)
[01:47] <roberts> maz, gnucash works for me.  Used to use a simpler perl-based program called cbb.  Years ago though.
[01:48] <maz> lol ok
[01:48] <maz> OK I might search for finance in the forums then
[01:48] <MyQe7> hello
[01:48] <MyQe7> how can i upgrade to breezy?
[01:48] <milan> respect
[01:49] <dbzdeath> MyQe7: set your /etc/apt/sources.list to breezy and do apt-get dist-upgrade ... i believe
[01:49] <milan> who use Maya on Ubuntu???
[01:49] <MyQe7> so all i need is to change hoary to breezy?
[01:50] <maz> roberts: i'll check out cbb then
[01:50] <dbzdeath> yeah and run apt-get dist-upgrade ... least it is that simple on debian...
[01:50] <roberts> maz, good luck.
[01:50] <MyQe7> thanks dbzdeath
[01:50] <dbzdeath> http://linus.yhspatriot.net/cs/docs/ubuntu_howto/UpgradingtoBreezy
[01:51] <dbzdeath> pretty sure thats the same thing though
[01:51] <maz> I've now left windows for good... ubuntu does everything my Win98 did and a hell of a lot more
[01:51] <maz> and there's better support when things do go wrong
[01:51] <maz> and it's free lol
[01:52] <Kromonos> yes, and it has problemz
[01:52] <dbzdeath> hahaha one problem with ubuntu i've found is the lack of packages... at least on amd64
[01:52] <roberts> At least it doesn't have problem$
[01:52] <Kromonos> yes, and whats about my i810 problem?
[01:52] <digis_> after upgrading hoary->breezy, X stopped working, then I installet fresh hoary, and everything worked perfectly
[01:53] <maz> see i'm only on 386 architecture
[01:53] <digis_> X error dialog just freezed, and I nothing could, do, and starting X manuall, doesnt hellped, It said something about missing fixed fonts, and didn't boot
[01:54] <dbzdeath> digis_: install a fresh breezy?
[01:54] <Gadjet> anyone had any problems with upgrading the kernel to 2.6.12-6 on hp lpr1000 (uses megaraid scsi) ? (i just get the generic error of not being able to pivot_root, 'no such file or directory dev/console')
[01:54] <maz> any Aussies (or anyone else lol) listen to JJJ radio through ubuntu?  If so?
[01:54] <digis_> dbzdeath, yes, I installed fresh breezy, and everything works like a charm, few days ago I had problems with gnome-panel, which kept craching
[01:55] <dbzdeath> digis_: mmm... and you want help with??
[01:55] <Poromies> YES! SUCCES! (sorry for the caps :<) I got OS-flash working on amd64-hoary \o/
[01:55] <Mariux> how does apt-get handle multiple versions? can i choose which version i want (say two differente respositories has two differente versions)
[01:55] <Poromies> without chroot shiaz
[01:55] <dbzdeath> Poromies: OS-flash?
[01:55] <digis_> dbzdeath, I had no access upgrading hoary to breezy :/
[01:55] <Akbar> that's odd you should be able to upgrade from hoary to breezy without problems right like in Debian?
[01:55] <digis_> *success
[01:55] <Mariux> that is, multiple versions of the same program?
[01:55] <dbzdeath> Akbar: i would think so... gotta love debian
[01:55] <Poromies> yea, opensource-flash, seems to work fine
[01:55] <dbzdeath> digis_: access?
[01:56] <digis_> *success
[01:56] <digis_> :)
[01:56] <digis_> sorry
[01:56] <dbzdeath> ohhh
[01:56] <chicken-man> Hello every one :-P
[01:56] <dbzdeath> beats me... did you do fresh hoary to breezy? probably smarter to start with a server hoary install
[01:56] <Poromies> atleast im surfing on the web now with some flash-sites, and it shows them, no idea about sound&browser-games support though
[01:56] <Akbar> if not would that mean I had to doe a fresh reinstall every six months? :S
[01:56] <digis_> dbzdeath, no, I used daily breezy install cd
[01:57] <roberts> Mariux, apt lets you specify versions in /etc/apt/preferences.
[01:57] <digis_> cause, I crewed up hoary, wiorh upgrading to breezy :/
[01:57] <dbzdeath> Akbar: haha oh know... well it should only be a problem for breezy because it isn't classed stable yet
[01:57] <digis_> *screwed
[01:57] <dbzdeath> *no
[01:57] <Akbar> ohh
[01:58] <Gadjet> anyone had any problems with upgrading the kernel to 2.6.12-6-smp on a hp lpr1000 (uses megaraid scsi) ?
[01:58] <Akbar> well I was running Debian stable before
[01:58] <Kromonos> when I try to install xserver-xfree86, the system wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <Akbar> broken packages at the moment :P
[01:58] <Kromonos> could I remove it, without having problemz?
[01:58] <Akbar> *stable/unstable
[01:58] <Ng> Kromonos: why do you want xfree86?
[01:58] <Ng> ubuntu uses xorg by default
[01:58] <dbzdeath> Kromonos: as was said ... shouldn't be installing it... nor should xfree86 be any help because xfree86 and xorg are basically the same
[01:59] <digis_> Kromonos, ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package
[01:59] <digis_> U can remove it, but xorg is much better then xfree86
[01:59] <Kromonos> (13:24:25) Kromonos: At the moment I use VESA with an Intel Brookdale graphics card, because if I use i810, my keyboard is just working half the time and the maximum resolution is 640x480 but with VESA, X get black, when I close the lit, logoff user or change to tty. lspci output: 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) Whats wrong?  <-- becuase of this ng
[02:00] <Akbar> just edit your xorg.conf
[02:00] <Ng> Kromonos: ok, well as dbzdeath says, they're the same
[02:01] <kemik> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, perhaps ?
[02:01] <Kromonos> kemik: I made this .... 24 times
[02:01] <kemik> ouch
[02:01] <Kromonos> nothin happens, just the same shit
[02:01] <pirast> The text in xmms and gpmplayer is very fat. Is there a workaround or a bug report?
[02:01] <Seveas> l
[02:01] <Akbar> text?
[02:02] <Akbar> you mean fonts?
[02:02] <dbzdeath> has anyone here actually successfully debootstrapped ubuntu?
[02:02] <digis_> pirast, u should try configing gtk1 fonts, but better use beep-media-player and vlc or totem
[02:02] <pirast> akbar: yes, I mean the fonts
[02:02] <Akbar> those are gtk1 fonts
[02:02] <digis_> U can change fonts in .gtkrc
[02:03] <pirast> How to change gtk1 fonts?
[02:03] <Akbar> what you should do is try to configure your gtk1 fonts through ~/.gtkrc or a app called 'switch'
[02:03] <Akbar> :P
[02:03] <pirast> ok
[02:03] <pirast> thx
[02:03] <Akbar> gtk-theme-switch - GTK+ theme switching utility
[02:04] <dooglus> I'm running KDE.  Whenever I try to start a terminal window, I see "KDE seems to be already running on this display" and then the terminal window closes itself.  WTF?
[02:04] <twibbler> help please ... with rt2400 wireless card ..
[02:06] <Zealot^> quick question: why can't totem play any files at all? mp3, mpg, etc. --- it says i need the plugins
[02:06] <Seveas> !tell Zealot^ about restricted
[02:07] <pirast> !tell pirast about restricted
[02:07] <pirast> just a test :-)
[02:07] <dbzdeath> !tell dbzdeath about restricted
[02:07] <dbzdeath> ha cool
[02:07] <pirast> aaahhh nice
[02:07] <Seveas> !play
[02:07] <ubotu> All work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg
[02:07] <Zealot^> thanks Seveas, i'm reading now
[02:07] <dbzdeath> haha!
[02:08] <pirast> lol
[02:08] <chez> hey, is there an easy way to install the java plugin for firefox?
[02:08] <Akbar> :P
[02:08] <ubuntuguy> anyone: how does the release of debian "sarge" affect ubuntu?
[02:08] <pirast> nice, a chatbot
[02:08] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, not too much, why?
[02:08] <aleksi> chez: ubuntuguide.org tells you how
[02:08] <dbzdeath> ubuntuguy: ... it doesn't?
[02:08] <_nereos> chez:  $ apt-cache show java-package
[02:08] <Seveas> ububtuguide is bad...
[02:09] <Akbar> use http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ :P
[02:09] <Seveas> chez, read wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and specifically the text in bold at the top
[02:09] <chez> ubuntu guides command don't work for that
[02:09] <Seveas> and follow that link
[02:09] <pirast> !tell nvidia
[02:09] <Seveas> pirast, don't play with it
[02:10] <pirast> ok :-)
[02:10] <ubuntuguy> so ubuntu doesn't take very much from debian anymore?
[02:10] <LordBurrito> G'day all.  Is it my imagination, or does "ifup" not behave as advertised?  It appears to be bringing up interfaces not listed in the "auto" stanza?
[02:10] <dbzdeath> bloody hell vmware needs ia32-libs ... i didn't know
[02:10] <VincentMX> why don't ubuntu have netinstall like debian? it would make downloading images faster.
[02:10] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, au contraire
[02:10] <Seveas> VincentMX, it has...
[02:10] <VincentMX> ok
[02:10] <ubuntuguy> seveas: explain?
[02:11] <bimberi> !debian
[02:11] <Seveas> ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[02:11] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[02:11] <chez> _nereos, Package: java-package Version: 0.23~5.04ubp1 Priority: optional Section: contrib/misc
[02:11] <ubuntuguy> so how can the release of sarge not have much of an impact on ubuntu?
[02:12] <Seveas> chez, disable backports...
[02:12] <dbzdeath> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_0.5ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib32/libGL.so.1', which is also in package nvidia-glx does anyone know why i get that error?
[02:13] <VincentMX> hi
[02:13] <chez> Seveas, what then?
[02:13] <dbzdeath> ubuntuguy: because sarge has been around a long time before it was "released"
[02:13] <bimberi> ubuntuguy: what impact do you feel it should have?
[02:14] <kent> I have a python-script that tries to run #!/bin/env python,  but it complains about lack of /bin/env.  Which package is it in?
[02:14] <ubuntuguy> dbzdeath: ahh... ok now I understand. thanks
[02:14] <_nereos> chez:  apt-get update ;-)
[02:14] <kent> sorry, found it. It was in /usr/bin/env
[02:14] <dbzdeath> that and debian is quite different from ubuntu... for example ubuntu has a amd64 release thats marked stable... debian doesn't
[02:15] <dooglus> I'm running KDE.  Whenever I try to start a terminal window, I see "KDE seems to be already running on this display" and then the terminal window closes itself.  WTF?
[02:17] <chez> _nereos, what now?
[02:18] <dbzdeath> um... why is there a package glibc-doc when there is no glibc pacakge..
[02:18] <_nereos> chez:  Try to install the package via apt-get / synaptic
[02:19] <chez> _nereos, nope still can't find package
[02:20] <Seveas> dbzdeath, libc6
[02:21] <dbzdeath> Seveas: sure its the same thing?
[02:21] <digis_> is there any way to install software with synaptic, just using options from shell?
[02:23] <Seveas> dbzdeath, 100%
[02:24] <Zealot^> Seveas: i installed the gstreamer plugins using synaptic; they were downloaded successfully. when i try to open a .mdw file i get the same error. any thoughts?
[02:25] <Zealot^> Seveas: the error is "the stream is of a different type than handled by this element"
[02:25] <Kromonos> when xorg and xfree86 are the same, why upgrading to xorg?
[02:25] <dbzdeath> .... i have no idea what i did but vmware seems to magically be working properly... at least sofar
[02:25] <manu_>  hello.. i just installed ubuntu on a pc pentium 3, but he didn t recognize my network card.. what can i do ???
[02:25] <dbzdeath> *sp far
[02:25] <dbzdeath> *so far
[02:25] <dbzdeath> stupid typing
[02:27] <manu_>  i have an other possibility.. i have a sinus 111 wireless usb adapter
[02:27] <sdschulze> Hi; are there any plans about including software suspend?
[02:27] <dbzdeath> sdschulze: isn't that something in the kernel?
[02:27] <manu_>  but i don t know how to make it work ??
[02:27] <sdschulze> dbzdeath: It is.
[02:27] <dbzdeath> sdschulze: build your own kernel?
[02:28] <manu_> some one knows how to install a usb wireless adapter on my ubuntu
[02:28] <manu_> ?
[02:28] <sdschulze> dbzdeath: I know how to do that, but I was asking whether there are plans about setting that option for the default packages.
[02:28] <dbzdeath> ah i see
[02:29] <Seveas> sdschulze, it's been included since hoary
[02:30] <sdschulze> Seveas: It has?  Sorry, I'm upgrading from Warthy right now, and 2.6.8-5 doesn't seem to have it.
[02:30] <sdschulze> thanks
[02:30] <Seveas> sdschulze, hoary has 2.6.10-5
[02:31] <dbzdeath> YAY! vmware is working... but i'll bet that now nvidia-glx is screwed
[02:31] <manu_> some one knows how to install a usb wireless adapter on my ubuntu
[02:31] <manu_> ?
[02:31] <Zhukov> Hello there
[02:31] <Zhukov> manu_, conceptronic?
[02:31] <Seveas> install linux-686 (intel) linux-k7 (amd) or linux-ppc (mac) to keep your kernel current
[02:31] <manu_> no sinus
[02:31] <Zhukov> c54ru something?
[02:31] <Zhukov> :S
[02:31] <manu_> sinus 111 data
[02:31] <Zhukov> im afraid i may have bad news for you
[02:32] <Zhukov> usb wireless dongles arent very kind with linux
[02:32] <dbzdeath> Seveas: is it me or is the latest kernel seem to conflict with nvidia-glx? i had to install 2.6.10-5 to get both to run
[02:32] <manu_> yes
[02:32] (dbzdeath/#ubuntu) woah
[02:32] (manu_/#ubuntu) you have an idear how to detect the network card manualy
[02:32] (manu_/#ubuntu) ?
[02:33] <Zhukov_> :D
[02:33] <manu_> :)
[02:33] <Albaraha> manu_, did you try lspci?
[02:33] <Seveas> split splat
[02:33] <Seveas> netsplit
[02:34] <manu_> how ?
[02:34] <Zhukov_> conse
[02:34] <Zhukov_> ole
[02:34] <dbzdeath> in case you missed it...
[02:34] <Seveas> dbzdeath, the latest kernel IS 2.6.10-5
[02:34] <dbzdeath> [20:32]  <dbzdeath> Seveas: is it me or is the latest kernel seem to conflict with nvidia-glx? i had to install 2.6.10-5 to get both to run
[02:34] <Albaraha> it's a command, manu_
[02:34] <manu_> :)
[02:34] <Zhukov_> manu_, try lsusb instead (isnt the dongle usb?)
[02:35] <ThePyromaniac> does anyone know why when i install ubuntu and kubuntu on the same pc, same versions and same settings, ubuntu reads "Buffer I/O Error on device HDC"?
[02:36] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, how did you installed them exactly?
[02:36] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, take the cd out before rebooting :)
[02:36] <manu_> and after
[02:36] <manu_> ?
[02:36] <manu_> i have a fritz network card in it
[02:36] <Zhukov_> is the dongle displayed?
[02:36] <ThePyromaniac> indeed, i take out the cd then it asks me to put it back in
[02:36] <manu_> but i couldn t recognize it
[02:36] <manu_> so i trying with usb wlan adapter
[02:37] <ThePyromaniac> it says it cant install some packages. most get thru ok, but some random ones don't work
[02:37] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, try install them without the cd
[02:37] <ThePyromaniac> how can i install without the cd?
[02:38] <El_Che> hi,
[02:38] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, do you have an installed system and are you trying to install extra packages or is this during installation of Ubuntu?
[02:38] <Albaraha> manu_, is it a pci network card?
[02:38] <El_Che> I just discovered there is a HP iso from ubuntu. Do i need to reinstall my system or are the extra packages and setting apt-gettable
[02:39] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list and add a # to the line of the cd (the first i think), then go to ubuntuguide.org and read the part about enabling extra repositories
[02:39] <dbzdeath> Seveas: hm... root@Administrator:/opt # apt-cache search linux-image | grep 2.6.11 linux-image-2.6.11-1-amd64-generic - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on x86_64.
[02:39] <Zhukov_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[02:39] <ThePyromaniac> it has installed weird, it gives me command line and i can do sudo commands and stuff
[02:39] <Seveas> those are test builds, unsupported and located in universe
[02:39] <Seveas> moreover: known to be broken
[02:39] <manu_> yes
[02:39] <dbzdeath> Seveas: ah!
[02:39] <dbzdeath> thanks
[02:40] <manu_> pci v2.0 isdn
[02:40] <Albaraha> what do you get with this command:
[02:40] <Albaraha> dmesg | grep -i ether
[02:40] <ThePyromaniac> Zhukov_: that i will try, its almost finished installing kubuntu as a test ^^
[02:40] <Seveas> dbzdeath, so let me rephrse it: the latest *stable* kernel *package in ubuntu* IS 2.6.10-5
[02:40] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, kubuntu isnt wort it :D im afraid
[02:41] <ThePyromaniac> i don't like kubuntu, that's why i have this problem :( i started with it then wanted to install ubuntu. spent 3 days trying
[02:41] <manu_> can t regognize it
[02:41] <ThePyromaniac> i have just reinstalled kub to see if it was hardware or software
[02:41] <dbzdeath> Seveas: yeah i figured :)
[02:41] <haakonn> isn't kubuntu the exact same as ubuntu, just with additional kde packages?
[02:42] <Zhukov_> ThePyromaniac, you can just install ubuntu and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu
[02:42] <ThePyromaniac> KDE instead of GNOME, changes alot
[02:42] <Zhukov_> and then you can chose wich one to use
[02:42] <haakonn> ThePyromaniac: from kubuntu, just install ubuntu-desktop, and you'll have an ubuntu system :)
[02:42] <ThePyromaniac> so if i have kubuntu installed, i can sudo apt-get install ubuntu? :D
[02:42] <ThePyromaniac> yay
[02:42] <john_> help
[02:42] <Zhukov_> Damn, im i the only one with problems with the backports?
[02:42] <ThePyromaniac> thanks guys, hope this works
[02:44] <john_> can someone tell where to how to download
[02:44] <Ng> john_: what are you trying to download?
[02:44] <Mez> Zhukov_, whats your problem?
[02:45] <john_> video player
[02:45] <Ng> john_: could you give a little more detail? like, what you're trying to do?
[02:46] <Ng> but ubuntu does include a video player (totem)
[02:46] <webtoe> john_: like what sort of video file you want to play
[02:47] <john_> Yes I want to first learn how to download things
[02:47] <webtoe> john_: to install programs?
[02:47] <youngcoder> is there a GUI that will allow me to quickly switch back and forth between different language inputs?
[02:48] <webtoe> yonugcoder: there's a gnome applet which will
[02:48] <youngcoder> i need to be able to type in russian but have no idea how to set it up
[02:48] <youngcoder> webtoe, what is it?
[02:48] <Zhukov_> Mez, broken dependencies
[02:48] <Seveas> john_, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:48] <webtoe> youngcoder: actually, it is just for keyboard input? the keyboard input applet
[02:48] <El_Che> I just discovered there is a HP iso from ubuntu. Do i need to reinstall my system or are the extra packages and setting apt-gettable
[02:48] <bz0b> hey guys
[02:49] <bz0b> does anyone recommend toshiba notebooks for linux?
[02:49] <youngcoder> webtoe, yes.. sort of like windows will allow you to change your imput to a different language in the Regional Settings
[02:49] <john_> I 'am new to linux you can put what I know in eye drop
[02:49] <webtoe> youngcoder: right click on the gnome panel at the top of the screen and select 'add to panel'
[02:49] <bilbo> How can I access my Windows partition from within Linux
[02:49] <g0su> hola
[02:49] <webtoe> youngcoder: then choose the keyboard indicator selection
[02:50] <dbee> Hi guys, newbie question here ... I'm hooking ubuntu up to dyndns as per unofficial guide ... the script has created a ipcheck.err file somewhere that I have to delete ... unfortunately I can't find it ... I've tried 'whereis ipcheck.err', also 'find ipcheck.err' and 'ls -all directory' ... anybody got a suggestion ?
[02:50] <Seveas> bilbo: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[02:50] <bz0b> bilbo, google ubuntu faq, an it should be the first link
[02:50] <Seveas> dbee, sudo updatedb
[02:50] <bz0b> and look through that
[02:50] <youngcoder> webtoe, thank you very much
[02:50] <Seveas> [wait a while] 
[02:50] <bz0b> hey Seveas
[02:50] <Seveas> slocate ipcheck.err
[02:51] <dbee> Seveas: updatedb ??? would that work ??
[02:51] <webtoe> dbee: and to use the find command type find / -name ipcheck.err but it will take aggggges
[02:51] <Seveas> dbee, that updates the slocate database :)
[02:51] <bz0b> Seveas, in your opinion, do toshiba notebooks make good linux notebooks? as where as compatibilty wise, i already know the atheros wireless card it comes with would be, but in general?
[02:52] <Seveas> bz0b, wouldn't know
[02:52] <Ng> bz0b: www.linux-laptop.net is a good place to investigate compatibility
[02:52] <webtoe> bz0b: it all depends on what's inside each particular laptop. check google
[02:52] <bz0b> Ng thanks
[02:52] <dbee> Seveas webtoe: nice one guys ... I'll try those now :-)
[02:53] <koka> anyone get skype installed on amd64 ubuntu system?
[02:53] <phen> bz0b: check www.tux-mobile.org
[02:53] <bz0b> k
[02:53] <phen> or the wiki on ubuntu.com
[02:53] <bz0b> k
[02:53] <webtoe> koka: i think peopel were saying yesterday that there might be probelms on amd64
[02:53] <Ng> not problems as such
[02:53] <koka> thanks
[02:53] <webtoe> koka: though i could be wrong. have you tried google?
[02:53] <Ng> it works fine on amd64
[02:53] <bz0b> phen, sure its not tuxmobil.org?
[02:54] <Ng> there are just some things that don't work in 64bit because they are 32bit
[02:54] <phen> well try it :)
[02:54] <webtoe> Ng: i only vaguely remember the conversation, wasn't paying attentino :P
[02:54] <john_> ng  where should I look to learn todownload doc's gide what
[02:54] <bz0b> I did
[02:54] <bz0b> and it didnt work
[02:54] <phen> then without -
[02:54] <phen> it is mobilE
[02:54] <phen> the e at the end
[02:54] <Ng> webtoe: s'ok, it'd be pretty hard to keep track of everything said in here at some times :)
[02:55] <Ng> john_: I'm not quite sure what you mean?
[02:55] <Ng> john_: if you're looking for general linux docs/guides, www.tldp.org has lots
[02:56] <Zhukov> hey anyone have the package?
[02:57] <john_> Ng I didn't get book with this dic lost
[02:58] <john_> I've been xp user
[02:59] <Whistler> good for you
[02:59] <Whistler> :)
[02:59] <ThePyromaniac> if i run apt-get install ubuntu should i run remove kubuntu after? or shud i purge? i forget how
[02:59] <TraceGreen> Hello, i want to a light file manager for copying and deleting files , any ideas?
[02:59] <Zhukov> TraceGreen, xffm
[02:59] <webtoe> TraceGreen: this for the command line or for GUI?
[03:00] <survivor> Is there anything close to Windows' Explorer for ubuntu? Like, with a tree view?
[03:00] <webtoe> survivor: nautilus has a tree view
[03:00] <Zhukov> ThePyromaniac, if you aint gonna use kubuntu remove it after
[03:00] <TraceGreen> Zhukov, I want a gui tool
[03:00] <Zhukov> survivor, nautilus
[03:00] <survivor> I couldn't find it then
[03:00] <Zhukov> TraceGreen, xffm
[03:00] <ThePyromaniac> would it be like dual boot then if i leave kubuntu there? or would it just be wasted space i cant log into?
[03:00] <Seveas> survivor, you can make nautilus use browser mode
[03:00] <Zhukov> Did anyone found a package called transcode???Please!
[03:00] <Seveas> open the nautilus preferences and go to the 'behaviour' tab
[03:00] <webtoe> survivor: in nautilus go to edit > preferences and on the second tab select browser mode
[03:01] <Seveas> Zhukov, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:01] <survivor> I'll try it, thanks!
[03:01] <webtoe> survivor: and once nautilus is in browser mode on the left hand side there's a drop down menu where you can select tree
[03:01] <taw> how can i make mails sent by postfix not be considered spam ;-p ?
[03:02] <Seveas> by not advertising viagra in them...
[03:02] <taw> it might have to do something with the HELO/EHLO request, it probably doesn't know my fqdn
[03:02] <youngcoder> bah i cant find a driver for my printer
[03:02] <Seveas> taw, edit /etc/mailname
[03:02] <Seveas> make sure it has your hostname in it
[03:02] <taw> (it worked in debian's exim, week ago)
[03:02] <Kromonos> ok, xorg is running but my resulution ist still 640x480 and I cannot scale it up :( apt-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work. What else can I do?
[03:03] <Seveas> Kromonos: To find out how you can change your display resolution, go to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:03] <Zhukov> Seveas, you go to heaven for this
[03:03] <youngcoder> anyone use a Lexmark P6250?
[03:05] <bilbo> Seveas: thanks - very helpful piece of code!
[03:05] <taw> nice, it seems to work
[03:06] <Chrustinho> does anybody run Gajim 0.8 successfully with Ubuntu?
[03:07] <grint> Chrustinho: : i use gajim 0.8 on hoary amd64 withou problems
[03:07] <Chrustinho> grint: did you compiled it by yourself or used a package?
[03:08] <grint> Chrustinho: i compile it
[03:08] <Chrustinho> grint: ok, i search a package for Ubuntu :)
[03:09] <youngcoder> anyone use a Lexmark P6250 printer?
[03:10] <ixiz> does Ubuntu don't have the 'import' command?
[03:10] <ixiz> How do I get that?
[03:10] <vertz> i got a minor problem, my norwegian charatures dont work properly, i see them as they should be, but for others they look like weird chars.. whats wrong?
[03:10] <webtoe> youngcoder: i doni't think anyone does use that printer. have you looked at www.linux-printing.org
[03:11] <webtoe> ixiz: what do you mean by import command? import what?
[03:11] <youngcoder> webtoe, yes i have looked everywhere
[03:11] <vertz> ixiz: import comes with imagemagick
[03:11] <ixiz> yes I ment that import to make screenshots :)
[03:12] <vertz> install imagemagick
[03:12] <vertz> : >
[03:12] <ixiz> another problem I have is, when I try to do sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:12] <ixiz> I get E: Package irssi has no installation candidate
[03:13] <Seveas> ixiz, enable network downloads...
[03:13] <Seveas> !info irssi
[03:13] <Seveas> !info irssi-text
[03:13] <ubotu> irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 779 kB, Installed size: 2520 kB
[03:13] <ixiz> network downloads?
[03:13] <youngcoder> this is very annoying
[03:13] <Seveas> right, the package is called issi-text :)
[03:13] <youngcoder> i bought the one printer that doesnt have a linux driver
[03:13] <ixiz> so I should apt-get install irssi-text ?
[03:13] <Seveas> yes
[03:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: is it OK to pm you briefly re: our conversation yesterday?
[03:14] <Seveas> thoreauputic, very briefly - am about to leave :)
[03:14] <thoreauputic> OK
[03:14] <Zhukov> Thanks Seveas
[03:15] <janne__> hi all!
[03:15] <webtoe> sorry youngcoder. linuxprinting.org appears down to me but google doesn't turn anything up.
[03:15] <janne__> help me in this: Where goes my installed progs when i use wine?
[03:16] <Zhukov> janne__, /home/username/.wine
[03:16] <janne__> i see....i check
[03:16] <Zhukov> there is something there like fake c or fake windows
[03:17] <codomaniac> !autoconf
[03:17] <ubotu> codomaniac: Syntax error in line 1
[03:18] <can-o-worms> when i do make menuconfig the setting from the current kernel are being read from somewhere... can someone tell me how to stop that
[03:18] <can-o-worms> ?
[03:18] <codomaniac> !ubotu
[03:18] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:18] <codomaniac> !aclocal
[03:18] <ubotu> codomaniac: No idea
[03:18] <webtoe> !info aclocal
[03:19] <codomaniac> !info aclocal
[03:20] <Ng> can-o-worms: in the top level of the kernel source check for a .config file and move it out of the way
[03:20] <codomaniac> webtoe, you there ?
[03:20] <Ng> codomaniac: what are you trying to find out?
[03:20] <webtoe> yeah
[03:20] <Ng> ignore ubotu, it's stupid ;)
[03:20] <webtoe> what you looking for?
[03:20] <webtoe> info is usd to look up packages
[03:20] <codomaniac> heh it is like emacs M-X doctor program :) ?
[03:20] <webtoe> lol
[03:20] <webtoe> how are you feeling.....
[03:20] <janne__> i dont have director like .wine....but program is working....strange
[03:21] <webtoe> :P
[03:21] <codomaniac> hmm i am doing CVS install of E17 ;)
[03:21] <codomaniac> did CVS download
[03:21] <janne__> cd ./.wine
[03:21] <{Seb}> what is going on with backports?
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> can anyone lend a hand with my DHCP server config? it says "No subnet declaration for eth1 (192.168.1.154). Not configured to listen on any interfaces!", but i don't see where to add one in
[03:21] <can-o-worms> Ng: i can do that... but i downloaded the source from kernel.org, but it still managed to find all this crap from somewhere
[03:21] <codomaniac> now acc to the INSTALL there in the dir I am supposed to ./autogen.sh
[03:21] <{Seb}> no new packages? no posts being answered on forums
[03:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> i havent had this problem b efore :|
[03:21] <codomaniac> but when i run that i get this error ./autogen.sh: line 8: aclocal: command not found
[03:21] <Ng> can-o-worms: that's quite odd, I don't think it should be doing that
[03:22] <codomaniac> why is that any idea webtoe ?
[03:22] <codomaniac> Ng, also noticed my problem ?
[03:22] <webtoe> codomaniac: hmmm that's strange. aclocal is to do with language settings etc.
[03:22] <Ng> codomaniac: you need to install the automake package
[03:22] <Zhukov> anyone uses pan here?
[03:22] <codomaniac> umm. okay
[03:22] <webtoe> codomanias: Ng is right me thinks....s/he always is....
[03:22] <Ng> codomaniac: or possibly automake1.4
[03:23] <Ng> webtoe: I am not always right ;)
[03:23] <can-o-worms> Ng: it did it again, i moved .config, but it still knows
[03:23] <webtoe> :P
[03:23] <codomaniac> will do an apt-get install automake :) ng ?
[03:23] <Ng> codomaniac: should be ok :)
[03:24] <codomaniac> aclocal is part of that ? Ng ?
[03:24] <Ng> can-o-worms: hmm, I'm just wondering if it's the default config and looks like the ubuntu one
[03:24] <Ng> codomaniac: yes
[03:24] <codomaniac> ah fine.
[03:25] <can-o-worms> Ng: not a chance, i have some pretty specific stuff set up in the graphics support section for a matrox card
[03:25] <webtoe> Ng: I don't suppose you have any good ideas for learning to program C? resources etc.? under linux...
[03:25] <Subson1x> hi. someone wants to help me with www.ubuntux.org?
[03:26] <Ng> webtoe: firstly you need the K&R book, then something like Anjuta to develop in. There are some developing gnome applications books too, so maybe the K&R C reference, a Teach Yourself C type book and a linuxy related C book?
[03:26] <Frederick> guys I got a P4 1.6 Ghz but only 64mb ram can I install ubuntu? how much swap do you recommend? thx in advance
[03:26] <can-o-worms> webtoe: or just learn perl
[03:26] <Ng> can-o-worms: that's really odd. There is a feature in new kernels to expose the running config in /proc/config.gz or something like that, but I don't think the vanilla kernel source is supposed to look for it
[03:27] <g0su> please one question, for change clock to UTF -> local?
[03:27] <webtoe> Ng: i've looked at perl and its fun to a point but it bugs me. And I have one or two C books (i.e. basic C programming) but looking for specific linux/gnome
[03:27] <Ng> can-o-worms: you could dig around in arch/i386/ and find a more default config
[03:27] <Subson1x> Frederick: it will run, but very slowly because of constant swapping. 512mb swap at least, better 1gb
[03:27] <Frederick> Subson1x, thx a lot
[03:28] <Ng> webtoe: I'd say that perl/python will get you to writing applications quicker, but I can understand wanting to learn C, it's a nice language :)
[03:28] <Subson1x> Frederick: does it run with the live-cd?
[03:29] <webtoe> Ng: the main reasons is a.) a lot of stuff under linux is still programmed in C/C++ and b.) doing a Msci computer science and think it would be useful
[03:29] <Subson1x> does someone want to blog his/her experiences made with ubuntu? /msg me
[03:29] <dbee> Hi, should you expect to encounter problems connecting dyndns to a computer behind a home router ??? or am I barking up the wrong tree here <woof><woof> ?
[03:30] <codomaniac> now what is libtoolize part of Ng ?
[03:30] <janne__> how it can be true that i see driver c: when im using wine?
[03:30] <janne__> i mean when im installing game....?
[03:30] <Subson1x> dbee: should be no problem
[03:31] <Zhukov> janne__, thet c drive ios the fake windows or fake c folder under .wine
[03:31] <janne__> and: How can i start programs in that drive c:?
[03:31] <Zhukov> gotcha?
[03:31] <Zhukov> :D
[03:31] <peterretief> cant get my mouse to work (serial port geflunkt)
[03:31] <can-o-worms> Subson1x: sure man.... here is my blog -> P.I.T.A
[03:31] <janne__> Where is that fake drive?
[03:31] <Ng> codomaniac: libtool1.4 I think
[03:31] <Subson1x> can-o-worms: url?
[03:32] <Zhukov> janne__, under your home folder, .wine
[03:32] <can-o-worms> Subson1x: that's it man... ubuntu is a pita
[03:32] <codomaniac> thanks Ng :)
[03:32] <Subson1x> can-o-worms: and why is that? sorry i don't understand :)
[03:33] <webtoe> codomaniac: you can use dpkg --search to look which package provides a file (i think)
[03:33] <webtoe> PITA = pain in the ass/arse
[03:33] <clem_yeats> nice :))
[03:34] <webtoe> right i got to go away for a couple of minutes, be back soon
[03:34] <Ng> codomaniac: take a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ you can search for the filenames to find out what package something is in :)
[03:35] <codomaniac> hmm thanks
[03:35] <dbee> Subson1x: I run the dyndns_update script and don't get any errors, the ipcheck.dat file seems fine - but when I point the browser to the url I get a www.myhostname.homeunix.com cannot be found. Is it a problem at their end ?? or mine ???
[03:36] <Subson1x> dbee: try ping www.myhostname.homeunix.com and compare to your current ip
[03:36] <zer0> ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:36] <Subson1x> then you know if it was updated correctly
[03:36] <zer0> i installed mirc there
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> ewwww...
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:36] <Subson1x> zer0: take KVIrc, runs native :)
[03:36] <zer0> mirc has great scripting
[03:37] <benson> Question: I quickly learn that even if you have write permissions to a NTFS drive, you cant write to it in linux (I did it out of habit) but I have my NTFS mounted with Read only now, so say i did the same thing again, i got the read only error, so its different than the messege I got last time, I just want to make sure I didn't just screw it up
[03:38] <janne__> thanks for all those helps....now i actually find those files....using command: cd ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:40] <Subson1x> benson: that should be alright, you can't write now because linux blocked it because of your r-o mount
[03:40] <benson> also, I came in here yesterday, cuz I could mount my NTFS drive, but i didnt have permissions,  I was just doing mount -r -t NTFS blah blah blah, and some guy gave me a line of sudo mount blah -o and then my name and like GUI-and stuff, anyone know that command so I can write it down for future reference
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> zer0,  that statement is one of some debate.
[03:41] <benson> all i did was i was listening to mp3z and tried to change the ID file and it said read only error, and I was like OH DUH, i just want to make sure its not likely a problem
[03:41] <benson> I dont think Ubuntu is exactly the easiest linux to start learning with :-)
[03:42] <benson> my cousin uses linux and I was asking him all these question and hes like dude with Mandrake i dont have to do any of that
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> benson,  the design goal is sort of to becomne a disrto that anyone could use with no learning. :P
[03:42] <dbee> Subson1x: I pinged the url but got no answer ... I double checked the account details at dyndns ... it's definitely a dynamic dns account set up at that URL. I don't really know what to do now ... I've updated the sh and the db
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> then gain - each disrto has its own strengths and weaknesses.
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Ive had to do things with mandrake. that i dont ever have to touch in Ubuntu.
[03:43] <benson> believe me, i dont mind screwing up my hard drive and having to reboot because of some mistake I make, thats the best way to learn these things, point is, I have to know Linux, and multiple distros, so I might as well get started learning
[03:43] <medamaybe> does anyone know how I can set up (something in ubuntu) so I can use http://computername, instead of http://computer-ip  ?
[03:43] <Ng> benson: the wiki has information about mounting ntfs drives
[03:43] <benson> but does anyone know that command line I mentioned?  I know it was like Sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/blah r-o? GID-benson something like that
[03:44] <smykes> I'm trying to get Alexandria installed in my classroom, it just kind of sits there when I try to search for a book
[03:44] <jockel__> what does "backports" mean in detail ? are "backports" the plain debian packages ?
[03:44] <benson> yeah ive looked and followed it, but i didnt see that command I had to come here for help cuz it mounted I just had no permissions to view it
[03:44] <Ng> jockel__: backports are packages of programs that were released after the current ubuntu release
[03:44] <Ng> jockel__: so newer versions of things in hoary, mostly
[03:44] <jockel__> Ng, thanks
[03:45] <jockel__> sorry for ask this question at all as i just found it in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:45] <Ng> finding the wiki is always good :)
[03:45] <benson> anyone ever fooled with the 3D desktop?
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> medamaybe,  you could edit the hosts file - thats the simplest way.. unless the pcs are using dhcp.
[03:46] <medamaybe> they're not using dhcp,  where can I find the hosts file?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> benson, ages ago i twiddled with it - it seemed to be more of a college-project then a usable tool at the time.
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> medamaybe,  in /etc :P with all the other config files
[03:46] <medamaybe> lol
[03:46] <medamaybe> sorry  :(
[03:46] <medamaybe> thanks
[03:47] <benson> yeah, it kinda just looks cool, but evenutally i think it would grow old
[03:47] <dbee> Hi, I'm trying to get dyndns to work with my ubuntu ... I've registered and ran the dyndns_update script with no errors, but when I try to ping my chosen URL, I get no reply ... anybody got any ideas ?
[03:47] <Dr_Willis> benson,  yea - it was neat eye candy. but really i dont see it adding much to real usability.
[03:48] <benson> but thats one thing I really think is cool about linux is the additional workspaces,
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> benson,  in this day and age - seems people rarely use the 'multi-desktop' features much less all this 3d stuff.
[03:48] <benson> i think its a good idea atleast
[03:48] <din> ummmm
[03:48] <din> i use my 8 desktops religously
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> the idea of multi-workspaces has been around for years. :P MS has just decided users are too dumb to handle it.
[03:48] <survivor> No matter how hard I tried, I never got used to multiple desktops.
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> din,  and you are not a typical user. :P
[03:49] <din> well no
[03:49] <Lefungus> hello
[03:49] <din> heh
[03:49] <Gadjet> i rarely use multidesktops... higher res is the solution i use :)
[03:49] <benson> you know, you got a huge file copying or something and dont want to see it on your screen or something, u know
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> I got the same feature under windows..
[03:49] <Zhukov> survivor, multiple desktop are heaven :D
[03:49] <Lefungus> I'm on breezy, new to apt-get, I'm trying to find the name of xorg headers package
[03:49] <benson> i dont know mine was on 1280 and it was just too small for me to see comforatably
[03:49] <Lefungus> anyone has a clue ?
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Multi Monitor support - is finially getting decent at least!
[03:49] <benson> lefungus wouldnt it be listen in the package manager?
[03:49] <din> my desk is 2560x1024 and most days i have at least half my workspaces filled
[03:50] <survivor> Multi monitoring = heaven
[03:50] <benson> what size moniter you have, din
[03:50] <saiguran> have anyone used octave, python, gnuplot to plot geographical/climatic systems on a map using three variable e.g longitude, latitude and temperature/rainfall/wind/etc?
[03:50] <din> benson: dual head, 2 19" monitors
[03:50] <survivor> But I never thought multiple desktops were intuitive
[03:50] <Gadjet> ohh, multi monitoring is great
[03:50] <Gadjet> at work, we've got 3 lcd's
[03:50] <Gadjet> it sucks coming home to my lonely 1 CRT :(
[03:50] <benson> mines 17" i cant really see if mines 1280,
[03:50] <survivor> It's like, I click somewhere in the main panel to get to a specific desktop, then on the task bar to get to a window and then every app has it's own tabbing system
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> often - i find the window managers are too brain dead to make multi-monitors that usable.. but they have all gotten better. :P
[03:51] <survivor> way too deep of a hierarchy for me
[03:51] <din> Gadjet: i feel your pain
[03:51] <medamaybe> after I edit the hosts file, do I have to restart/reload anything?
[03:51] <din> except i only have 1 lcd at home
[03:51] <din> medamaybe: no
[03:51] <survivor> Dr: Yep, I needed a freeware tool to get two task bars even on Windows
[03:51] <medamaybe> hm..that's easy
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> survivor,  i spend hrs on ever new windows install - to get it into a usable system . :P
[03:52] <LokeDK> I'm using a clearlooks theme, but synaptic and the update manager has the "default" theme .. old fashion.. what's wrong?
[03:52] <survivor> How often do you do that? :D
[03:52] <survivor> I installed Win2K three years ago
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> survivor,  depends on how engertic the wife is with downloading crud-ware. :P
[03:52] <survivor> and didn't even bother to keep it clean
[03:52] <din> my wife uses linux
[03:52] <din> well she really has no choice in the matter
[03:53] <din> heh
[03:53] <deprave> my cat uses linux
[03:53] <din> <-- linux sys admin
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> my wife just HAS to get into the XXX yahoo rooms. :P I got no choice in the matter.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:53] <Xappe> LokeDK: that's because you run them as root
[03:53] <spola> is that where you met?
[03:53] <Unified> hi
[03:53] <deprave> din: my cat just rolled his eyes.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> nah - i got my wife off of. Russianbrides.com
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:53] <spola> rofl >:)
[03:54] <din> deprave: did he chase them too? :p
[03:54] <LokeDK> XandriX, It does that as standard doesn't it?
[03:54] <Unified> i've installed breezy colony 3, but when I boot for the first time after installation it gives me an oops with hw_random: RNG not detected and freezes. what can i do?
[03:54] <deprave> i hear india is outsourcing their linux outsourcing staffs to a farm of chimpanzees
[03:54] <Zhukov> DAMN!! MY CAT RIPPED MY MOUSE CORD!
[03:54] <Gadjet> anyone had any problems with upgrading the kernel to 2.6.12-6 (SMP) on hp lpr1000 (uses megaraid scsi) i'm currently running breezy dev ? (i just get the generic error of not being able to pivot_root, 'no such file or directory dev/console')
[03:54] <medamaybe> Dr_Willis,  what if the computers ARE using dhcp? is it possible to make http://computername  work then?
[03:55] <Lefungus> benson, well, I don't find it
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> medamaybe,  not sure then. run your own dns server perhaps..
[03:55] <Lefungus> trying to search with "xorg headers"
[03:55] <Zhukov> no wonder it wanst working
[03:55] <medamaybe> well, all the computers are connected to a server
[03:55] <medamaybe> win2k
[03:56] <medamaybe> and from all the windows PCs I can type:  http://computername  and it works, but in ubuntu it didn't work
[03:56] <din> medamaybe: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_a_Dynamic_DNS_with_an_Updating_Daemon
[03:56] <din> that may help you
[03:56] <Zhukov> buaaa im mouseless
[03:56] <benson> /dev/hda6 on / type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro) [/] 
[03:56] <benson>    Does that mean there are Errors?
[03:56] <medamaybe> thaanks din, I'll take a look
[03:56] <din> although it's gentoo, it has very useful info
[03:57] <Xappe> LokeDK: so maybe if you change the system wide theme setting they will show up looking as the rest of your desktop, but now i'm only guessing :)
[03:57] <LokeDK> Xappe, How do I do that?
[03:58] <Xappe> LokeDK: i'm not sure...have never bothered trying that myself
[03:58] <bytefoo> sup :|
[03:58] <bytefoo> is there a lean and mean guide around for ubuntu :|
[03:58] <LokeDK> oh okay
[03:59] <ajd> nooby question :P, I just have linux installed on my comp and i want to format it (not with installation after) and I was sure you lovely people could tell me how :P
[04:00] <spola> !ubuntuguide
[04:00] <ubotu> spola: Syntax error in line 1
[04:00] <din> lol
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> heh
[04:00] <bytefoo> nah, lean and mean guide
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> ajd,  what are you going to do with it afterwards? want a totally new/clean hard drive?
[04:01] <LokeDK> Something is wrong with xchat.. is crashes when i choose "Load Plugin or Script.." from menu..
[04:01] <spola> it gives a link to a better one (or should)
[04:01] <ajd> yeah
[04:01] <mjbunink> Well... not exactly
[04:01] <bytefoo> so i can get rid of all these useless services that are on by default
[04:01] <bytefoo> and making it pokey :o
[04:01] <Gadjet> fdisk is fun :)
[04:01] <bytefoo> !ubuntuguide
[04:01] <ubotu> bytefoo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:01] <bytefoo> :/
[04:01] <din> !ubuntuguide
[04:01] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, din
[04:01] <spola> damn bot not being able to guess what we want even if it's soooo obvious
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> ajd,  use a live cd and the fdisk, or qt_parted or similer disk partining tools to delete all the partitions.
[04:02] <bytefoo> i gotta make it speedy :-/
[04:02] <bytefoo> like arch or vector :|
[04:02] <ajd> ok thanks :)
[04:02] <mjbunink> I'm having trouble playing mp3's (I know I'm not the only one), but installed all the codecs specified in ubuntuguide. Still no go (could not determine type of stream). Any thoughts on that one?
[04:02] <ajd> cya
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> mjbunink,  check the wikis yet? they tend to be more up-to-date
[04:03] <d2dchat> hey, im having problems with my wireless card
[04:03] <d2dchat> lspci shows that its there
[04:03] <CarlFK> where are some hints on how to setup vsFTP so that all local users can read/write to /home/ftp (other than 777)
[04:04] <d2dchat> and i had it working
[04:04] <janne__> hi all gain!
[04:04] <d2dchat> but it doesnt show up in iwconfig
[04:04] <mof> hi
[04:04] <CarlFK> d2dchat - dmesg|less - see if the driver is trying to load
[04:04] <d2dchat> how do i do that?
[04:04] <din> bahahaha my boss just came in and gave me a qmail beer cuzzi
[04:04] <CarlFK> d2dchat - or lsmod to see if the driver is loaded
[04:05] <d2dchat> then what?
[04:05] <mjbunink> Dr_Willis, Hmmm... not yet. good suggestion. will try. Btw. Ubuntu is (feels) way snappier than Mdk or FC!
[04:05] <janne__> 1 prob: how i can move folder with one blank spot between names: like this : Matrix Games ?
[04:05] <spola> ubotu wiki UbotuUsage
[04:05] <d2dchat> if it isnt, install the driver and if it is?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> mjbunink,  lol :P
[04:05] <CarlFK> d2dchat - then tell us what you find
[04:05] <d2dchat> k
[04:05] <d2dchat> brb
[04:05] <d2dchat> :)
[04:05] <Zhukov> janne__, go to the folder that contaisn taht folder
[04:05] <janne__> yes? and?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> janne__,  with bash you mean?
[04:06] <janne__> bash?
[04:06] <Zhukov> and do mv Matr(and it tab)   the console auto completes
[04:06] <slist> hello guys, im having problems with my graphics card, i buyed a better one than before (it was msi  6600 pci-e) and what i bought is asus 6600 pci-e GT... anyways i can't get it work in 3d mode, i tried to reconfigure xserver-xorg and install nvidia drivers again, but it won't work, is there something i should do to get rid of those old drivers or something, it seems that my system is locked up or something
[04:06] <mof> janne__, '...'
[04:06] <Subson1x> re
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> the shell :P
[04:06] <janne__> i try
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> mv 'foo bar' 'foobar'
[04:06] <Zhukov> lol
[04:07] <CarlFK> janne__ - how are you currently trying to move it?
[04:07] <CarlFK> janne__ (this will help figure out what flavor of anwer to give)
[04:10] <janne__> Thanks very much for helping me....now i can play Steel Panthers....
[04:11] <janne__> i learn a lot today...
[04:11] <www-ubuntux-org> :)
[04:11] <mof> learning by playing ??
[04:11] <janne__> Ubuntu rules!
[04:11] <janne__> Bye!
[04:11] <youngcoder> does anyone know anything concerning a driver compatibility with Lexmark P6250 printer?
[04:12] <mof> youngcoder, try turboprint if in doubt
[04:12] <youngcoder> got a link?
[04:13] <mof> search it by yourself
[04:13] <mof> at google
[04:14] <sproingie> turboprint is canon, epson, and hp only, no?
[04:14] <youngcoder> i did
[04:14] <mof> http://freshmeat.net/projects/turboprint/
[04:14] <youngcoder> i was wondering if someone had compiled something
[04:14] <sproingie> hell their drivers on windows barely work
[04:15] <filip_> i have now run ubuntu for 2 weeks and now wonder how can ubuntu be that good? i meen i can have and internte browser, musicplayer, gaim valknut xchat synaptic and an game nnd my computer is running whitout problem. In Win2k i cant have an webbbrowser, winamp, MSN running whitout problem.
[04:15] <CarlFK> "search it by yourself" = "yes" + "arch it by ourself" ;)
[04:15] <sproingie> filip_: welcome to linux
[04:15] <survivor> You have a poor Win2K then, though.
[04:16] <JzE> Hey.... Is there boot floppies for Ubuntu?
[04:16] <sproingie> tho i must say that browser+winamp+msn isn't exactly high load
[04:16] <mof> sproingie, sorry, you'r right
[04:16] <CarlFK> JzE - kinda... SBM
[04:16] <filip_> thanx, how long does i need to wait for my cd from shipit ? I live in Sweden
[04:16] <slist> hmm, now i got glxgears work, but it can make only 600fps, it should do over 4000, any tips?
[04:16] <CarlFK> JzE - you have a CD but it won't boot, right?
[04:16] <JzE> CarlFK: Umm... What's that? I need floppies because my old comp won't boot cd's
[04:17] <mof> maybe lexmark offers drivers
[04:17] <JzE> CarlFK: Yep
[04:17] <d2dchat> i did lsmod and it gave me a bunch of things but i didnt see anything about wireless
[04:17] <www-ubuntux-org> filip_: a few weeks i think
[04:17] <spola> i saw this thing in my bash_profile about adding ~/bin to the PATH if it exists, but it's not added ... what could cause this?
[04:17] <d2dchat> or at least i dont think i did
[04:17] <filip_> ok
[04:17] <CarlFK> JzE - look on the ubuntu wiki (i forgot the url.. duh) for SBM (smart boot manager) it is a floppy that will boot a CD
[04:18] <JzE> CarlFK: ok.. thanks :)
[04:18] <lexmark> does anyone know if there are yahoo messenger clients that works with ubuntu?
[04:18] <Zhukov> lexmark, gaim
[04:18] <slist> gaim?
[04:18] <slist> bitlbee also
[04:18] <CarlFK> JzE - if you find it, post the link here.. I have something to add to it
[04:19] <slist> it's a messenger "software" for irc-clients
[04:19] <zer0> slist what does it say when you type  glxinfo | grep renderer
[04:19] <JzE> CarlFK: ok
[04:19] <slist> zer0: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:19] <zer0> oh you have no hardware acceleration
[04:19] <zer0> what graphisc card ?
[04:19] <lexmark> gaim? is that available in package manager?
[04:20] <slist> asus 6600 gt pci-e
[04:20] <www-ubuntux-org> lexmark: for sure
[04:20] <JzE> CarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto?highlight=%28boot%29%7C%28smart%29%7C%28manager%29
[04:20] <survivor> It's included in ubuntu's standard installation
[04:20] <slist> lexmark: it's installed by default
[04:20] <spola> lexmark, should be installed by default (so yes)
[04:20] <JzE> CarlFK: Is it that?
[04:20] <noodle> is there a way to "alternate" the default os from windows to ubuntu automatically between reboots?
[04:21] <Zhukov> noodle, no
[04:21] <CarlFK> JzE - yup
[04:21] <osfameron> heh, that's a cute idea though :-)
[04:21] <lexmark> thanx
[04:21] <noodle> doh
[04:21] <slist> zer0: i said my problem earlier, i can't get this new card drivers work i did have msi 6600 non-gt version, and i bought 6600 gt, now it won't work in 3d mode, do you have any advice in this?
[04:21] <spola> it's prolly doable to specify what should boot next from within ubuntu, but not from windows
[04:22] <CarlFK> JzE - when you boot from sbm floppy, you may think you need to install it to the HD - you can, but you dont need to.  somewhere is a "boot from CD" option
[04:22] <mof> slist, install nvidia driver
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. wonder if the google messenger thing will get a linux port also.
[04:22] <bytefoo> did skype get a port?
[04:22] <pybe> noodle, i have seen somthing you can do in grub for this i thought. Have you googled?
[04:22] <JzE> CarlFK: Ok.. I try it
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> actually its all open spec. isent it?
[04:22] <deprave> it does, it's called gaim
[04:22] <noodle> pybe: well no wasn't sure what to google for
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> gaim works with the new google chat?
[04:22] <slist> mof: i have done that many times, won't help
[04:22] <zer0> slist is there a linux driver on asus' website ?
[04:22] <bytefoo> Dr_Willis, it is just jabber
[04:22] <deprave> yes it does, just set it as a jabber protocol
[04:23] <spola> Dr_Willis, i think so (i heard it used yapster)
[04:23] <spola> or yabber, LOL
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> bytefoo,  cool. :P heh - ive not any 'friends' to talk to. so it just shows my gmail info.
[04:23] <pybe> noodle, you want it to keep booting windows if thats what was manually chosen for example?
[04:23] <bytefoo> ye
[04:23] <mof> slist, did you edit your xorg.conf ?
[04:24] <noodle> pybe: if i'm in linux and i reboot, i want grub to default to windows on the next boot, and vice versa if i'm on windows :)
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> google is getting some very handy tools out.  Picisa2 - saved my wife a lot of time.
[04:24] <deprave> what's picasa?
[04:24] <slist> mof: yes
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> grub has a feature where it can rember what you last selected.
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> deprave,  google's image browser/thumbnail/database program.
[04:24] <www-ubuntux-org> k3wl
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> deprave,  no linux port yet however. :( that i know of.
[04:24] <deprave> for unix?
[04:24] <deprave> oh
[04:25] <www-ubuntux-org> that's bad
[04:25] <slist> zer0: i can only find windows driver
[04:25] <mof> with comment the lines with 'GLcore' and 'dri'
[04:25] <noodle> Dr_Willis: can it set it to boot the last !selected?
[04:25] <Zhukov> Dr_Willis, but i think what is want is something like, now windows, now linux, now windows, now linux
[04:25] <noodle> yep that's what i want
[04:25] <noodle> :)
[04:25] <Zhukov> :)
[04:26] <bytefoo> i wonder if gensplash is available
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> it rembers the last item you booted to noodle .   any other way would be odd. ;p what if you had 100 entries.. :P you may be able to MAke your grub menus change the default for the next boot. not sure how..
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> I find that it alwyas defaults to the WRONG os whatever i do.
[04:26] <noodle> back to google i guess :|
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> :P
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> i just set the timeout to be somthing real long. like 60 sec.. so i can be sure to catch it and tell it what to boot to
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> i find it hard to belive that you KNOW you want to go from Linux/windows/linux/windows regullary. :P
[04:27] <noodle> my entire motivation for doing this is because i want to go to the fridge between reboots without waiting to select the os > <
[04:28] <sproingie> well one usually reboots linux when they want to go to windows
[04:28] <sproingie> and when one reboots windows, they're disgusted enough with it to do linux for a while
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> actually i think theres a way you can shutdown linux, and tell it what os to reboot to.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> seen that in some disrtos.. Not sure how they did it however.
[04:28] <humppa_cz> hi. i've got problems with binutils (same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37516), but apt-get update; apt-get upgrade doesn't help me.. :( which version of binutils is in repository just now?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> must of been some tweaking of the grub.conf right befor it reboots.
[04:28] <sproingie> Dr_Willis: it's not hard to set the next boot from linux
[04:28] <dental> ciao
[04:29] <humppa_cz> ..i've got binutils 2.15-5ubuntu2.2
[04:29] <sproingie> Dr_Willis: good luck doing it from windows.  i don't know if grub even reads fat
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> then again - on my current machine - i got 2 hard drives. I hit F11 for the bios boot menu to pick my hd to boot. :P
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> so none of this is even testable by me right now.
[04:30] <sproingie> Dr_Willis: you could put /boot on a fat partition, or do something with colinux on windows.  either hack seems a little bit of a steep price
[04:30] <slist> Dr_Willis: i'd like to have that function in my old machine, which runs smootwall right now
[04:30] <sproingie> probably easier to just hack grub
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> heh - have a mini disrto just to handle the boot loader. :P
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> been there done that!
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> GrubLinux :P no that wasent the name...
[04:31] <www-ubuntux-org> what is the best RSS news feed aggregator for gnome?
[04:31] <CarlFK> there is a free ext2 fs driver for win
[04:31] <www-ubuntux-org> it should be capable of RSS and Atom
[04:31] <mjbunink> Dr_Willis, thanx for the advice. With some comman thinking I could have thought of the wiki's myself, but no, I had to grep in /etc and plough through libs. It actually works now! Thanks for pointing me in the right drection instead of flaming. I think i'm going to enjoy this distro.
[04:31] <slist> smoothwall is awesome but i'd like to install few more stuff in it, like ftp server
[04:31] <spola> www: i drag the rss links to my firefox bookmarks so they expand into the newsstories they contain, works great
[04:32] <www-ubuntux-org> spola: hmm i like firefox, but the rss thing isn't perfect in there :(
[04:33] <www-ubuntux-org> it should regularly visit these blogs and inform me about news
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> mjbunink,  glad i could help... i just cant rember what i helped you do....... :)
[04:33] <CarlFK> http://www.fs-driver.org  "s Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access)."
[04:33] <Lefungus> where is the same thing for reiserfs ?
[04:34] <CarlFK> Lefungus - in the future ;)
[04:34] <www-ubuntux-org> i don't think it exists
[04:34] <www-ubuntux-org> btw. reiserFS or ext3? what to prefer?
[04:34] <Lefungus> anyway, it's cool
[04:34] <CarlFK> indeed
[04:34] <Lefungus> it means vfat can die peacefully at last
[04:34] <bytefoo> i think it depends :-/
[04:34] <CarlFK> www-ubuntux-org - whatever is the default ;)
[04:34] <slist> can you tell me more about reiserFS?
[04:35] <pybe> noodle, i dont have ubuntu here at the mo, is there an app called rebootin installed or in apt-cache search
[04:35] <bytefoo> like reiser is really fast as i understand it, but not so good for laptops since it accesses the ahrddrive way too much :X
[04:35] <www-ubuntux-org> CarlFK: i think there are more tools supportings ext3 than reiserFS
[04:35] <noodle> pybe checking
[04:35] <bytefoo> because always updating the inodes
[04:35] <noodle> no :(
[04:36] <www-ubuntux-org> bytefoo: good to know
[04:36] <bytefoo> i *think*
[04:36] <bytefoo> don't quote me :-X
[04:36] <www-ubuntux-org> ext3 is default in ubuntu, i guesS?
[04:36] <bytefoo> i use ext3 :-/
[04:36] <derek_> Hi there i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to enable DMA from boot on my dvdrom drive
[04:36] <pybe> noodle: search for it it allows you to specify an os to reboot into 1 time only from linux
[04:36] <_frank_> derek: edit /etc/hdparm.conf
[04:37] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com for whoever wanted to search the repos
[04:37] <noodle> ok
[04:37] <pybe> noodle:  or there is this that might do it for you: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=756404
[04:37] <humppa_cz_> hi. i've got problems with binutils (same as http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37516), but apt-get update; apt-get upgrade doesn't help me.. :( which version of binutils is in repository just now?
[04:37] <hando> hi there
[04:38] <filip_> what is the easiest way to setup an ftp server in ubuntu?
[04:38] <daSein> can anyone help
[04:38] <Subson1x> http://www.ubuntux.org/poll :)
[04:38] <mjbunink> Dr_Willis, mp3 codecs, am enjoying muine in full effect at the very moment
[04:38] <saintFrance> how do i make my desktop all pretty and stuff? like ive seen some crazy desktops
[04:38] <derek_> ok got that file open
[04:39] <pybe> filip_ apt-get install vsftpd then nano /etc/vsftpd.conf then /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart all don
[04:39] <slist> filip_: with aptitude install proftp
[04:39] <galathalion> help me please..
[04:39] <yuckyz> hi
[04:39] <CarlFK> filip_ - apt-get install vsftpd
[04:39] <galathalion> :<
[04:39] <daSein> has ubuntu linux installation menus like mandriva or suse? or is it as all previous debians?
[04:39] <slist> filip_: or im not sure is it the easiest, but least it it's not the hardest
[04:39] <Seveas> daSein, like debians, but less questions
[04:40] <slist> is there a support for anonymous accounts in vsftpd?
[04:40] <Subson1x> not graphical yet
[04:40] <mjr> daSein, I'm not sure what you mean by installation menus; Ubuntu install uses debian-installer, but much streamlined
[04:40] <yuckyz> i read the support and my 3com nic isnt supported by ubuntu, can the driver used in fedora or whitebox of that 3com nic work in ubuntu too?
[04:40] <daSein> i mean does it auto install grafical desktops or have you got to 'di it yourself'
[04:40] <Subson1x> but installation is very fast and works, that's the main point
[04:40] <daSein> do it
[04:40] <mof> saintFrance, http://www.directupload.net/show/d/428/9ZJOT8rv.jpg like this
[04:40] <mjr> daSein, Gnome is automatically installed
[04:40] <Seveas> daSein, by default it installs a desktop
[04:40] <daSein> excellent
[04:40] <filip_> pybe: should i restard my computer?
[04:40] <mjr> (or KDE, if installing from a Kubuntu CD)
[04:40] <daSein> i tried to install woody
[04:40] <Seveas> either gnome or kde, depending on whether you have an ubuntu cd or kubuntu
[04:41] <slist> filip_: leave that for windows users
[04:41] <pybe> filip_ no
[04:41] <daSein> and cound not manage to install X
[04:41] <daSein> could
[04:41] <filip_> slist: ha!
[04:41] <CarlFK> pybe - know of any example vsftp configs?
[04:41] <yuckyz> my first time to see linux that my lancard or nic cant be detected by ubuntu but can be detected by fedora or whitebox or openbsd. any help pls?
[04:41] <daSein> thanks people
[04:41] <Nermal> is there an easy way to get a service started at boot ? something like insserv in suse or rc-update in gentoo ?
[04:42] <derek_> frank ive got that file open what do i need to edit, sorry only been using linux for a week
[04:42] <daSein> i hope next time we'll talk i had already installed this distro!
[04:42] <bytefoo> goooooo breezy!
[04:42] <Subson1x> kubuntu doesn't make sense imho, because you can install KDE with ubuntu as well
[04:42] <daSein> i saw gnome desktop
[04:42] <daSein> on a friends laptop
[04:42] <mof> Nermal, update-rc.d name defaults
[04:42] <CarlFK> subterrific - you can, but with ku you don't need to ;)
[04:42] <Nermal> mof, cheers
[04:42] <daSein> beautiful
[04:42] <juri> hey, decided to give the official kernel a go for the first time, and ran into some problems i'm having trouble solving as i'm not familiar with initrd, lvm or even udev very much
[04:43] <yuckyz> what i love of ubuntu is tht it can run gaim-vv without any problem making me use webcam of yahoo messenger hehhehehe
[04:43] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ok I seem to have gnupg signing mail, and I exported public key to two servers - is that all I need to do to sign email?
[04:43] <juri> it tells me, while trying to boot, that /dev/cdrom: open failed: No medium find, Unable to find volume group 306 and 306 does not exist
[04:43] <filip_> pybe: what should i restart?
[04:43] <Seveas> thoreauputic, yup
[04:43] <juri> i found some hits with google, but nothing very helpful
[04:43] <spola> yuckyz, you have a webcam that works with ubuntu? what's it called?
[04:43] <jbailey> juri: This is breezy, riht?
[04:43] <juri> yes
[04:43] <jbailey> juri: Which CD did you install from?
[04:43] <juri> just apt-get dist-upgraded
[04:43] <slist> Subson1x: what if you don't want to download kde or you can't download it because your installing it to machine which has slow internet connection for an example
[04:43] <jbailey> juri: When was this?
[04:44] <yuckyz> spola yes use gaim-vv
[04:44] <juri> i don't think i've reinstalled this box since debian 0.93 or something like that :-)
[04:44] <CarlFK> filip_ - no.  the only time you need to restart is when you upgrade the kernel
[04:44] <juri> jbailey, er, yesterday or the day before
[04:44] <filip_> carlFK: okej
[04:44] <jbailey> juri: That problem ought to have been fixed as of yesterday afternoon. =)
[04:44] <marco__> hi to all ! I have some question about ppc ubuntu
[04:44] <juri> oh, great
[04:44] <yuckyz> creative webcam can work with gaim-vv
[04:44] <spola> yuckyz, lol, i was referring to the hardware :p i'm dead afraid im gonna buy a webcam and it's not gunna work
[04:44] <juri> will have to try it the next time i reboot
[04:44] <spola> oh, thx
[04:44] <Subson1x> go and vote for ubuntu :) http://www.ubuntux.org/poll
[04:44] <twibbler> on gstreamer getiing this error Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture' can anybody help please ..
[04:44] <juri> thanks :-)
[04:44] <jbailey> juri: The trick now is to upgrade your initramfs-tools to 0.23, and then regenerated the initramfs.
[04:44] <noodle> pybe: grub-reboot will do it i think, :)
[04:45] <Timmu_> Hello
[04:45] <pybe> CarlFK:  the one in /etc/ is a basic sample just need to tweak a bit for you.
[04:45] <somedude_> ive got a folder namne: "-=Cartoons=-" and i cant rename it or move it???
[04:45] <jbailey> juri: You can either do that through apt-get --reinstall the kernel, or just mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-7-686 2.6.10-7-686  (Substituting the appropriate version for your setup)
[04:45] <Timmu_> Anyone using Avaks Roadrunner 10 Pci network card in ubuntu
[04:45] <yuckyz> and i find it so difficult to install  gaim-vv in whitebos or fedora :((
[04:45] <juri> ok, thank you!
[04:45] <somedude_> i get this error:  mv -\=Cartoons\=- Cartoons
[04:45] <somedude_> mv: invalid option -- =
[04:45] <somedude_> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[04:45] <pybe> filip_:  you will need to restart the service if you edit the config file so it picks up the new sttings
[04:46] <monkey89> somedude_, try mv -- "-=Cartoons-=" Cartoons
[04:46] <monkey89> or whatever it is
[04:46] <mof>  mv -r '-\=Cartoons\=-' Cartoons
[04:46] <CarlFK> pybe - I am tying to setup anonymous: read from pub/, write to incoming, and the local shell users have full read/write to both
[04:46] <jbailey> juri: No prob.  Please ping me if you have further problems.
[04:46] <pybe> filip_:  thats the command #: /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[04:46] <pybe> CarlFK:  one sec
[04:46] <somedude_> mv: invalid option -- r
[04:46] <filip_> pybe: it works, how can i edit so they download from another directory, not /home/ftp
[04:47] <mof> -R
[04:47] <CarlFK> mof what is the -R for?
[04:47] <somedude_> mof still the same
[04:47] <monkey89> somedude_, so try what I said. it works.
[04:47] <CarlFK> if the dir starts with a - you need mv --  "-=Cartoons-=" Cartoons
[04:47] <mof> somedude_, only one '-'
[04:47] <Timmu_> Someone who use Roadrunner 10 pci network card pm me /msg Timmu_
[04:48] <monkey89> no, two
[04:48] <CarlFK> do i hear 3?
[04:48] <monkey89> hehe
[04:48] <CarlFK> I say you need 3....
[04:48] <somedude_> yaaay monkey89, u rule! :)
[04:48] <monkey89> :)
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Seveas: pastebin info in /msg
[04:48] <somedude_> any chance in u explaining what i just did? ;)
[04:48] <CarlFK> 2 for the -- and one for the -
[04:48] <monkey89> for reference, the -- (at least as far as I know) shuts off the command line
[04:48] <pybe> filip_ man vsftpd.conf
[04:49] <monkey89> otherwise, mv considered the - to be a command line option and bonked out
[04:49] <CarlFK> I think -- is a bash thing?
[04:49] <pybe> CarlFK: you just need to allow anonymous and also chroot
[04:49] <monkey89> might be... i dont know
[04:49] <somedude_> ok, thanks monkey89!! and mof, thanks for trying! :)
[04:49] <somedude_> (no pun intended!)
[04:50] <galathalion> could anyone help me?
[04:50] <monkey89> (there's a pun there?)
[04:50] <damsko> what i have to do to play .wma files in bmp
[04:50] <Gadjet> doesn't \- work too?
[04:50] <Gadjet> or ./-filename
[04:50] <monkey89> i think ./ might
[04:51] <marco__> some body have ubuntu on ibook g3 500 mhz ?
[04:51] <Seveas> CarlFK, -- is a gnu getopt thing
[04:51] <Timmu_> where i can find Drivers For newest ubuntu ? some website or something
[04:51] <Seveas> means that any arguments after that are not command line option
[04:51] <Seveas> s
[04:51] <CarlFK> Seveas - explains why man mv didn't mention it.  thanks.
[04:51] <Subson1x> Timmu_: see http://www.ubuntux.org/forum/1
[04:52] <Seveas> Subson1x, stop spamming your site
[04:52] <Timmu_> i hate this win xp... so slow
[04:52] <Thunder000> Where can I find the breezy kernel ?
[04:52] <Seveas> Thunder000, /boot/vmlinuz-*
[04:52] <somedude_> monkey89, well.. mof didnt solve it and well.. hmm.. nevermind! :)
[04:52] <filip_> pybe: where can i find an log of the server
[04:52] <filip_> ?
[04:52] <monkey89> not much of a play on words is all I'm saying :)
[04:53] <mof> somedude, without -r
[04:53] <Thunder000> Seveas: I mean I want to get the breezy kernel package... either via apt-get or website downlad
[04:53] <damsko> what i have to do to play .wma files in bmp?
[04:53] <mof>  mv '-\=Cartoons\=-' Cartoons
[04:53] <somedude_> too late mof :(
[04:54] <monkey89> mv '-=Cartoons=-' Cartoons
[04:54] <monkey89> mv: invalid option -- =
[04:54] <monkey89> :)
[04:54] <galathalion> im a girl help me.. :S
[04:54] <monkey89> brb
[04:54] <mof> monkey89, '...'
[04:54] <Seveas> Thunder000, running a breezy kernel on hoary is a very bad idea...
[04:55] <somedude_> heres one for u mof: "find . -type f ! -iname *.jpg" <-- this works but i want to ad more options to it *.jpeg for example do i have to pipe it?
[04:55] <Seveas> galathalion, we can't help you with the fact you're a girl...
[04:55] <_frank_> galathalion: ask your question, if someone can help, they will
[04:55] <galathalion> i new that would help
[04:55] <yuckyz> where can i download a driver for my 3com nic?
[04:56] <Thunder000> Seveas: I did an upgrade to breezy.. and i need the newer kernel
[04:56] <Seveas> yuckyz, 3com cards should work out of the bocs...
[04:56] <Seveas> Thunder000, in that case you can simply install linux-686 (intel cpu) linux-k7 (amd) or linux-ppc (mac)
[04:56] <galathalion> im trying to watch a dvd on my laptop.. ut it doesnt go any well.. its bumpy
[04:56] <_frank_> !dma
[04:56] <galathalion> anyone know what to do?
[04:56] <Seveas> galathalion, enable dma on your dvd player
[04:56] <Seveas> !tell galathalion about dma
[04:56] <mof> somedude_, write a script
[04:56] <galathalion> Seveas: how do you do that?
[04:57] <iap> hallo
[04:57] <Seveas> galathalion, ubotu just sent you some info
[04:57] <Thunder000> Seveas: linux-686 is the name of the kernel package ?
[04:57] <iap> for one time, i have a big problem. My ubuntu just hangs after gdm login
[04:57] <yuckyz> Seveas no it didnt i even tried using live cd and still the same, only in ubuntu that that nic wasnt detected
[04:57] <iap> I suspect some dns problem
[04:57] <somedude_> mof, haha.. ok.. i thought i could add multiple queries..but thanks! :)
[04:57] <Seveas> Thunder000, yes
[04:57] <iap> I mean some localhost issue and so on.
[04:57] <Seveas> yuckyz, very odd, does ifconfig list it
[04:58] <iap> have you any ideas? that network-admin really pissed me off.
[04:58] <n1xt3r> quit
[04:58] <Timmu_> ftp://ftp.a-link.com/old/rr10/ << i found roadrunner 10 drivers but they are 4 redhat 7.1 :/ so old kernel..
[04:58] <yuckyz> nope only loopback or lo Seveas
[04:58] <pybe> iap: whats in your /etc/hosts file
[04:58] <Ng> yuckyz: what about "ifconfig -a"
[04:58] <galathalion> Seveas: cant u just tell me how to do it? im in a middle of a friggin family movie-night
[04:58] <iap> pybe: I'll se, a moment
[04:58] <Seveas> galathalion, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[04:58] <yuckyz> and i even checked the device management the nic wasnt there nor in the dmesg command
[04:59] <Timmu_> i go in ubuntu now.. i try get that working :/
[04:59] <Seveas> galathalion, but that only lasts until you reboot -- read what ubotu sent you if you want to make it permanent
[04:59] <galathalion> Seveas: thats it?
[04:59] <Thunder000> Seveas: which kernel version is this ? linux-686 ?
[04:59] <yuckyz> i havent tried ifconfig -a but only ifconfig and i assume it should be able to display the nic if recognized
[04:59] <iap> pybe: coming back from that pc, after 4 minuts it logged in.
[04:59] <Seveas> galathalion, yes
[04:59] <galathalion> Seveas: ok.. thank you. ill see if it works. :D
[04:59] <Seveas> Thunder000, on breezy it's 2.6.12-something
[04:59] <iapx8088> pybe
[04:59] <pybe> h
[05:00] <iapx8088> do you want a cat, o prefer from network-admin
[05:00] <pybe> whats the localhost line
[05:00] <galathalion> Seveas: i love you
[05:00] <Thunder000> Seveas: is there a command or something that shows me the version of the kernel of linux-686 ?
[05:00] <Seveas> Thunder000, apt-cache depends linux-686
[05:00] <iapx8088> pybe:cat /etc/hosts
[05:00] <iapx8088> 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost deviantmind
[05:01] <Seveas> the linux-686 package always depends on the most recent kernel package
[05:01] <pybe> iapx8088: thats ok
[05:01] <_frank_> Thunder000: uname -a
[05:01] <Thunder000> I see
[05:01] <Seveas> that's why it's a good thing to have it installed
[05:01] <monkey89> somedude_, find -name *.jpg -o -name *.jpeg
[05:01] <Ng> Thunder000: packages.ubuntu.com will let you explore the current repositories
[05:01] <lexmark> is the best way to uninstall gaim is through the synaptic package manager?
[05:01] <pybe> iapx8088: whats in /etc/resolv.conf
[05:01] <iapx8088> pybe: this habit started a) when I did the update last night b)I had to quarrel with network-admin.
[05:01] <Seveas> lexmark, yes
[05:02] <somedude_> aaaaaah.. yes.. thanks! !:)
[05:02] <Seveas> monkey89, -name *.jp*g :)
[05:02] <Thunder000> ok
[05:02] <pybe> iapx8088: what was updated lastnight
[05:02] <yuckyz> Seveas will the driver used in other linux distro work in ubuntu?
[05:02] <iapx8088> pybe, I'll show you, but I'm wondering if networking-admin is changing those under my *ss. Libpcre was updated.
[05:02] <monkey89> hehe, that works too, but you would get .jpBLAHBLAHg as well... not that that ever happens
[05:02] <Seveas> yuckyz, you might need to simply modprobe it
[05:02] <frogtone25> hello
[05:03] <frogtone25> i have a problem
[05:03] <iapx8088> pybe, a pastebin is one the way
[05:03] <derek_> excellent thanks frank thats sorted
[05:03] <Ng> frogtone25: ask your question :)
[05:03] <frogtone25> does anybody know why the hoary extras server is down
[05:03] <iapx8088> pybe, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1636
[05:03] <frogtone25> im trying to download java
[05:03] <yuckyz> Seveas havent used modprobe and forgot what tht would do, by the way what is the command to detect the devices in fedora it is kudzu i guess, what about in ubuntu?
[05:03] <lexmark> I tried that, I get this msg "the chosen action will affect other packages- the following has to be removed.  Ubuntu-desktop"
[05:03] <dwixs> gdsgfsdfgsdg
[05:03] <frogtone25> and it wont let me download it
[05:04] <Seveas> yuckyz, modprobe loads the driver
[05:04] <monkey89> ack... mailnotification can't do gmail
[05:04] <yuckyz> ic
[05:04] <Seveas> can you put the output of lspci on the pastebin please
[05:04] <Ng> frogtone25: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ has a java package, no idea what it's like though
[05:04] <yuckyz> do you think when booting the modprobe is being ran?
[05:04] <Ng> frogtone25: I used the java-package instructions in the wiki
[05:04] <monkey89> ooh, there it goes
[05:05] <yuckyz> Seveas sorry that box isnt in here. ill paste it tomorrow
[05:05] <Seveas> Ng, it's a java-package package
[05:05] <Ng> Seveas: fair enough, it's just impossible to tell atm because world+dog are offering java packages :/
[05:05] <decaf> frogtone25: you can download original binary (.bin) from Sun and build your package with make-jpg (from java-package)
[05:05] <frogtone25> how do you do that
[05:05] <frogtone25> make-jpg
[05:05] <Thunder000> which kernel is most fit for Intel Pentium M 740 Processor (Centrino)? linux-386 or linux-686 ?
[05:06] <Ng> frogtone25: the java page in the ubuntu.com wiki explains it
[05:06] <lexmark> I get this msg when I try to remove gaim "the chosen action will affect other packages- the following has to be removed.  Ubuntu-desktop"
[05:06] <lexmark> can anyone help?
[05:06] <dwixs> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:06] <iapx8088> Thunder000, I believe linux-386
[05:06] <Ng> lexmark: gaim is part of the ubuntu desktop
[05:06] <Burgundavia> lexmark, ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[05:06] <iapx8088> ops
[05:06] <iapx8088> Thunder000, the contrary
[05:06] <thoreauputic> blech.. lunchpad is excruciatingly slow...
[05:06] <spola> lexmark, it doesn't matter
[05:06] <Burgundavia> lexmark, you can remove ti safely, but it makes upgrades a nightmare
[05:06] <thoreauputic> *launchpad
[05:06] <damsko> what i have to do to play .wma files in bmp?
[05:07] <Thunder000> iapx8088: you mean linux-686 ?
[05:07] <decaf> frogtone25: fakeroot make-jpkg sunjava.bin
[05:07] <iapx8088> Thunder000, yes
[05:07] <frogtone25> java isnt on the saveas page
[05:07] <Seveas> it is
[05:07] <Ng> frogtone25: scroll down to "sun-j2re"
[05:07] <Thunder000> ok. thanks
[05:07] <iapx8088> Thunder000, I'm using right now -386 with no probs.
[05:07] <Seveas> frogtone25, sun-jre-something
[05:07] <spola> damsko, i figure you'd have to install w32codecs, or (much much better) find a way to convert wma to ogg
[05:07] <Seveas> frogtone25, I sent you a username/password for it in private message
[05:08] <lexmark> ok, I just downloaded the Gaim autopackage 1.5.0 from the Gaim website... thats why I am trying to uninstall the older Gaim that I have
[05:08] <Thunder000> iapx8088: what is your system ?
[05:08] <iapx8088> Thunder000, a centrino dothan 1.7
[05:09] <lexmark> I have to uninstall the older Gaim before I can install the newer one from the gaim website right?
[05:09] <Ng> probably
[05:09] <phen> lex right
[05:09] <maverick> folk, clicking the gnome help icon gives me this error - "cannot launch icon, failed to execute child process "help" (no such directory or file) "
[05:09] <chris^> Hi Guys
[05:09] <maverick> pls help
[05:09] <Seveas> autopackage packages are evil...
[05:09] <Ng> lexmark: unless you really have/want to, I'd leave it alone though ;)
[05:09] <phen> but this one works
[05:09] <phen> :)
[05:09] <damsko> spola, ok thanks
[05:10] <lexmark> you mean the autopackage works phen?
[05:10] <chris^> On my Test-PC is running Breezy.. but here is something Broken -> http://pastebin.com/346920 -> Anyone know how 2 fix this? i found nothing with google or on ubuntuforums.org.. i know its developeing, but i want, that my test-pc is running :P
[05:11] <phen> yes
[05:11] <Juhaz> Thunder000, iapx8088, both should work okay, but centrino is i686, so it may be bit faster
[05:11] <lexmark> cool
[05:11] <lexmark> thanx
[05:12] <frogtone25> hey seveas does it matter if i download stand java or the the sdk package
[05:12] <Seveas> frogtone25, if you want to compile you need the sdk, otherwise just the jre
[05:12] <frogtone25> ok
[05:13] <Thunder000> Juhaz: thanks
[05:13] <frogtone25> Seveas:  thanks
[05:14] <slist> any idea why gaim send files so slow?
[05:14] <CarlFK> dern it... what is the command to add a user to a group?
[05:14] <Ng> CarlFK: sudo adduser username groupname
[05:14] <CarlFK> I have fogotten this 3 times in the last 6 mopnths
[05:14] <Seveas> slist, because the files are sent via the microsoft server...
[05:14] <Seveas> CarlFK, adduser user group
[05:14] <CarlFK> Ng - right.  I knew it was "odd"
[05:14] <CarlFK> thanks Ng and Seveas
[05:15] <Thunder000> Breezy installer didn't find my DVDRW ... So i installed Debian Sarge netinstall minimal .. and then upgraded to Breezy .. now upgrading the kernel... hope everthing goes fine
[05:15] <slist> Seveas: so it always sends something like 5kB/s?
[05:15] <Seveas> if you're lucky :)
[05:16] <Thunder000> I'm just giving it a try
[05:16] <Thunder000> so far so good
[05:16] <PDani> hi
[05:16] <slist> Seveas: can you recommend some way to send my files to friends, im behind a router in this machine so it's kind of hard
[05:17] <Seveas> slist, e-mail :)
[05:17] <frogtone25> thank you Seveas
[05:17] <PDani> when will be the gaim >=1.4 in hoary?
[05:17] <frogtone25> i have java
[05:17] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  current breezy doesn't work with nvidia?  I have work in 10 minutes so I must leave now, heh.
[05:17] <frogtone25> thank you so much
[05:17] <monkey89> PDani, probably not.  hoary's released, so its security fixes
[05:17] <monkey89> use breezy if you want 1.5 :)
[05:17] <PDani> thx
[05:17] <monkey89> it might be in backports, i dont know the deal with that
[05:17] <noodle> is there a better vnc viewer than "vncviewer"?
[05:18] <monkey89> noodle, rdesktop
[05:18] <noodle> ok
[05:19] <monkey89> noodle, wait, my bad.  there's a frontend to it - tsclient
[05:19] <monkey89> it should come with ubuntu
[05:19] <noodle> ok
[05:20] <zenrox> ya ts client is easy to use
[05:20] <monkey89> i always mix them up
[05:20] <frans-th> anyone can help me to make ubuntu brand renamed
[05:20] <noodle> is there a better vnc server than gnome remote desktop?
[05:20] <somedude_> goto go, thanks all for your help! :)
[05:20] <frans-th> our goverment agree to make ubuntu become national desktop, formally
[05:20] <frans-th> but of course must use indonesian name
[05:20] <frans-th> we will use pigeon name
[05:20] <frans-th> can help?
[05:21] <monkey89> noodle, you might be interested in nxserver, which is a lot faster (but needs a different client)
[05:22] <noodle> monkey89: hmm ok
[05:22] <Seveas> nx is awesome
[05:22] <Seveas> freenx is the open source variant
[05:22] <DVSoftware> one quick question
[05:22] <uthini> hey ppl
[05:22] <noodle> would it work mac to linux and vice versa though?
[05:22] <monkey89> Seveas, eh?  where
[05:23] <Seveas> noodle, don't know about mac actually, check nomachine.com
[05:23] <Seveas> monkey89, it's diabled now ;)
[05:23] <monkey89> i stopped using nx because i couldn't find the client, iirc
[05:23] <DVSoftware> i'm running firefox in 32bit chroot here
[05:23] <monkey89> i mean, what web client
[05:23] <DVSoftware> can somebody tell me name of the java package
[05:23] <Seveas> monkey89, they released the 'nx web companion' a fw weeks ago
[05:23] <monkey89> ah
[05:23] <maverick> folk, clicking the gnome help icon gives me this error - "cannot launch icon, failed to execute child process "help" (no such directory or file) " pls help me
[05:23] <uthini> !windowsdrives
[05:23] <Seveas> it's on nomachines download page
[05:23] <ubotu> I guess windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[05:23] <monkey89> awesome, thanks much
[05:23] <kiwikio> join # ubuntu-fr
[05:24] <_frank_> DVSoftware: sun-j2re1.5
[05:24] <DVSoftware> tnx
[05:24] <_frank_> DVSoftware: install that in the chroot?
[05:24] <vontrapp> DVSoftware: this might help: http://von.fugal.net/blog/2004/10/04#java-debian
[05:24] <DVSoftware> i know that :)
[05:25] <DVSoftware> errm
[05:25] <DVSoftware> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[05:25] <_frank_> DVSoftware: its in backports
[05:25] <DVSoftware> ahh
[05:25] <Seveas> DVSoftware, debs can be found at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:25] <_frank_> DVSoftware: hoary-extras I think
[05:25] <Seveas> backports no longer has it
[05:25] <_frank_> what?
[05:25] <monkey89> Seveas, can you use the web companion with freenx?
[05:25] <Seveas> vontrapp, that guide is on serious crack
[05:25] <Seveas> it's exactly the way NOT to install java..
[05:25] <Seveas> monkey89, yes
[05:26] <monkey89> awesome... i remember now, the reason i didn't use nx was because the client needed to be installed, and i don't have admin privs on my school comps
[05:26] <PDani> is it safe to install the libc6 from breezy with all of the other packages from hoary?
[05:26] <monkey89> this is great, vnc is slooow
[05:26] <Seveas> PDani, NO!
[05:26] <Ng> PDani: if you need to ask, you don't want to replace libc ;)
[05:26] <vontrapp> Seveas: it is if you want the newest sun vm
[05:26] <Seveas> vontrapp, no way
[05:26] <Ng> vontrapp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[05:27] <Ng> random unpackaged alternatives are a nightmare waiting to happen
[05:27] <_frank_> Seveas: its true, backports doesn't have java anymore. Why is that?
[05:27] <Seveas> _frank_, ENOCLUE
[05:27] <DVSoftware> Seveas, can i get user id and pass please :)
[05:27] <janne__> Hi all!
[05:27] <Seveas> DVSoftware, of course :)
[05:27] <Seveas>  /msg me the desired user/pass
[05:27] <janne__> How can remove programs in wine?
[05:28] <janne__> can i just delete folder
[05:28] <DVSoftware> janne__, yes
[05:28] <janne__> k....
[05:28] <janne__> does it leave behind scrap files....?
[05:28] <vontrapp> ok, so whenever i upgrade firefox to 1.0.6, the middle click load url feature stops working
[05:28] <vontrapp> anyone else experience this?
[05:28] <Seveas> vontrapp, which 1.0.6 do you use?
[05:29] <vontrapp> 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1
[05:29] <bilbo> hi: does anyone know if it is possible to turn my laptop with a wireless network card into a wireless access point?
[05:29] <Seveas> bilbo, it is
[05:29] <vontrapp> bilbo: depends on the wireless card
[05:29] <Seveas> put your card in maste mode (and install a dhcp server if wanted)
[05:30] <vontrapp> but yes, if it has master mode, that will do it
[05:30] <bilbo> is there any site with a recipe for that?
[05:30] <mcrawfor> hey folks, when trying to compile various things, I get the message:
[05:30] <mcrawfor> error: You must have pthreads to compile
[05:31] <mcrawfor> does anyone know what dev library I should get from apt to address this?
[05:31] <lexmark> does unbuntu see fat32 partitions?
[05:31] <kiwikio> yes
[05:31] <DVSoftware> little offtopic question, but does anyone knows some invision power board lyrics addon?
[05:31] <_frank_> Seveas: how did you build your java package? what should we say to new users to do to get java installed easily?
[05:31] <Seveas> mcrawfor, build-essential should do it
[05:31] <survivor> lexmark, yes, there are scripts floating around for it to see both FAT32 and NTFS partitions
[05:31] <Seveas> lexmark: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[05:31] <lexmark> thats what I thought
[05:31] <Seveas> _frank_, my packages are pure java-package packages
[05:32] <mcrawfor> Seveas: I'll give that a shot, apt-getting some other software right now
[05:32] <lexmark> just another question.... why are ppl still using windows when OS like unbuntu are available?
[05:32] <lexmark> lol
[05:32] <Seveas> _frank_, but most new users don't understand java-package or want to do the hassle :)
[05:32] <DVSoftware> lexmark, 'cos they're stupid :D
[05:32] <mcrawfor> Seveas: wonderful, that did it... well, got to the next library i need ;)
[05:32] <Seveas> lexmark, why is bush still president of the US ;)
[05:32] <mcrawfor> I love new installs
[05:33] <mjbunink> Gaming ofcourse. It doesn't matter if that locks up
[05:33] <ubuntuguy> installing Java is easy: just download the bin file, run it, and set your path correctly
[05:33] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, that's the bad way of doing it...
[05:33] <Ng> ubuntuguy: having it in a proper package is better
[05:33] <DVSoftware> mjbunink, i play games on my ubuntu box
[05:33] <lexmark> yeah, thats what I thought... only reason I installed unbuntu is to learn some linux.. didnt expect this to be this easy
[05:33] <Seveas> lexmark, disappointed? ;)
[05:33] <Seveas> try gentoo if you want to have a hard time ;)
[05:34] <lexmark> of course I have not mastered command line parameters yet
[05:34] <Ng> or turn X off :)
[05:34] <lexmark> but I think most ppl can handle Linux
[05:34] <lexmark> or unbuntu
[05:34] <uthini> erm Seveas, how is it possible, that yesterday i managed to mount and read a drive, but today, after i formatted the system drive (not the drive i'm trying to read) i cannot find any data on the drive? i know i messed up the partitiontable, is it possible to correct the partition table, or will that scramble the data on the drive?
[05:34] <mjbunink> DVSoftware, what? Solitaire? pingu? xbill? ;)
[05:34] <PDani> how can i build gaim with apt-get from breezy with hoary deps?
[05:34] <ubuntuguy> seveas: why is that bad? what's wrong with it?
[05:34] <PDani> with apt-get or some dpkg tools
[05:34] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, it does not integrate cleanly in your system, making removing/upgrading tough
[05:35] <Seveas> believe me, I tried it :)
[05:35] <survivor> lexmark: Sure, they can handle it. But they can't handle being disconnected from all their loved software.
[05:35] <Seveas> and don't even think about having 2 java versions installed :D
[05:35] <uthini> i'm having issues with apt-get, its not finding headers
[05:35] <Ng> Seveas: you can have loads of java vms installed, I have at least 3 :)
[05:35] <survivor> (Like me.)
[05:35] <uthini> and if i leave it running, when i come back my system is very very quite
[05:35] <deFrysk> ubuntuguy, debfiles wont recognise the java you installed so it can couse problems during install of some package
[05:35] <Seveas> uthini, please elaborate a bit more about the disk problem, output of fdisk -l and the name of the failing drive would help
[05:36] <Seveas> Ng, with debfiles it's easy indeed :)
[05:36] <DVSoftware> mjbunink, cedega can run a lot of windows games
[05:36] <vontrapp> that's why you set the alternatives and install the dummy-virtual-machine
[05:36] <Ng> Seveas: absolutely, I would always recommend that way if at all possible :)
[05:36] <survivor> I tried converting to Linux once, together with my whole family. Setting up Linux wasn't even hard back then.
[05:36] <Seveas> vontrapp, bull
[05:36] <ubuntuguy> seveas: incorrect, in this case. All the files are in one directory. You want to remove java just rm that dir. as far as integration is concerned, setting the path is the only thing that needs to be done, with a deb package or without.
[05:36] <Seveas> don't do the hassle if there's a *clean* way of doing it
[05:36] <survivor> But it's what comes afterwards that matters...
[05:36] <mjbunink> cedega? Don't you mean wine?
[05:36] <Seveas> ubotu, incorrect :)
[05:36] <ubotu> Seveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:36] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, incorrect :)
[05:37] <Seveas> java installers install stuff in /etc and /usr/share too
[05:37] <ubuntuguy> seveas: how so?
[05:37] <Seveas> java installers install stuff in /etc and /usr/share too <-- that's how
[05:37] <mjbunink> DVSoftware, a quick google later I see I have to apologise ;)
[05:37] <uthini> Seveas, /dev/hdb1   *           1       10011    80413326    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:37] <uthini> but Seveas, there are sub partitions.
[05:38] <mjbunink> DVSoftware, does it work well for you?
[05:38] <ubuntuguy> seveas: I don't think that's true with the bin file, but I will check. Thanks for the info.
[05:38] <DVSoftware> mjbunink, well, i've played a lot of games
[05:38] <Seveas> ubuntuguy, it's true :)
[05:38] <janne__> how i can remove directory full of files....?
[05:38] <deFrysk> janne__, rm -rf
[05:38] <DVSoftware> far cry, hl2, nfsu1/2, flatout, wc3, starcraft, wow, anarchy online, settlers 5...
[05:38] <uthini> Seveas, i dl'ed sleuth recovery, but i don't have enough disk space to create an image of the drive
[05:38] <janne__> oh...thanks!
[05:39] <deFrysk> janne__, rm -rf <directory>
[05:39] <deFrysk> to be more specific
[05:39] <uthini> DVSoftware, did u play nfsu2 on linux?
[05:39] <DVSoftware> yep
[05:39] <_frank_> Seveas: the backport problems are only temporary I think. you still can download manually at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ the hoary-extras packages
[05:39] <uthini> DVSoftware, i'm having troubles with it, can you help me please?
[05:39] <DVSoftware> uthini, you need cedega and installer from loki
[05:39] <vontrapp> Seveas: i don't recall the jdk installer putting anything anywhere except the directory i ran it in, but it _has_ been a long time
[05:39] <janne__> Thanks very much deFrysk....job done =)
[05:40] <uthini> DVSoftware, it's installed already, but it won't run
[05:40] <DVSoftware> then you need no-cd patch
[05:40] <uthini> DVSoftware, r u certain? it doesn't mention the CD issue, should i get the no-cd patch regardless? it just freezes @ the splash screen
[05:41] <PDani> does the dpkg-buildpackage apply the patches on the source?
[05:41] <DVSoftware> uthini, try with no cd patch
[05:41] <janne__> bye!
[05:41] <DVSoftware> it worked flawlessly here (with no cd patch)
[05:42] <vontrapp> i take it nobody has the middle click problem with firefox? i was hoping someone might know how to fix it
[05:43] <deFrysk> vontrapp, middleclick in firefox open link in net tab for me
[05:43] <Ng> vontrapp: it still works fine for me after upgrading. maybe disable the option and re-enable it? or try a new firefox user profile?
[05:43] <thoreauputic> can anyone confirm that https://launchpad.net/ is currently b0rked ?
[05:43] <slist> how can i burn iso dvd file with nautilus?
[05:43] <deFrysk> did I type that ?
[05:43] <monkey89> slist, right click the iso, "burn image"
[05:44] <Ng> thoreauputic: it loads here
[05:44] <uthini> DVSoftware, i think my computer is biased against me :P
[05:44] <deFrysk> vontrapp, middleklick in firefox opens link in new tab for me
[05:44] <slist> monkey89: haha thanks :D
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Ng: :/
[05:44] <vontrapp> no, not middle clicking a link, but middle click (pasting) the clipboard to the content to load the url in the clipboard
[05:44] <PDani>   libgnutls11-dev: Depends: libgnutls11 (= 1.0.16-13) but 1.0.16-13ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[05:44] <DVSoftware> uthini, did you tried no cd?
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Ng: I just get an error message
[05:44] <blackpearl> i need help... i dont have any user in sudoers group
[05:44] <uthini> DVSoftware, i'm in south africa, you gotta give it time to download
[05:44] <blackpearl> pls help me
[05:44] <PDani> any idea?
[05:44] <Ng> thoreauputic: what kind of error?
[05:44] <blackpearl> how do i log in as sudo
[05:45] <blackpearl> root
[05:45] <Ng> blackpearl: boot into rescue mode and you get a root shell
[05:45] <deFrysk> ! sudo
[05:45] <ubotu> from memory, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:45] <DVSoftware> uthini, 56k?
[05:45] <vontrapp> blackpearl: it should have added the first user you created during install to the sudoers group
[05:45] <thoreauputic> aha! it just loaded on the umpteenth try
[05:45] <uthini> DVSoftware, 128K
[05:45] <Ng> thoreauputic: :)
[05:45] <blackpearl> yes, but i changed that my mistake
[05:45] <DVSoftware> well i have 64k in serbia :)
[05:45] <blackpearl> how do i enable it now ?
[05:45] <DVSoftware> here in czech republic
[05:45] <Subson1x> are there any good ubuntu blogs out there? my rss feed needs fresh ubuntu information :)
[05:46] <DVSoftware> i have 100mbits
[05:46] <vontrapp> blackpearl: do the rescue thing suggested then
[05:46] <blackpearl> after going into rescue mode, how shld i proceed ?
[05:47] <mjbunink> Q for any Ubuntu developer present: What was the reason for making dbl-click the top border of a window (un)max a window? Why not stay with the roll-up?
[05:47] <vontrapp> adduser <user> <admin>
[05:47] <jacob> Can anybondy help? I can't find winbind in the package list for Unbuntu 5.04, also apt-get install winbind gets me package not found error.  Is there another name for winbind?
[05:47] <frans-th> anyone have try canon scanner in ubuntu, ?? anyone know how to setup TWAIn in linux?
[05:47] <deFrysk> vontrapp, pasting works fine here
[05:47] <Ng> blackpearl: "adduser username admin" where "username" is the user you want to have sudo access
[05:47] <blackpearl> okie thanks
[05:47] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me where I can change the " default application"  for a certain filetype?
[05:48] <Ng> medamaybe: right click on the file, choose properties and it's the "open with" tab
[05:48] <medamaybe> Ng, ok, but what if I want to change it for a lot of filetypes?
[05:49] <medamaybe> I mean...I saw a list somewhere, just can't remember where I saw it
[05:49] <vontrapp> well, there's the mailcap, not sure how many programs use it anymore
[05:49] <lexmark> I just ran the script that detects fat32 and ntfs..but when I go to "computer" I only see file system that lists the unbuntu files
[05:49] <DrSpin> !repositories
[05:49] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:50] <lexmark> I should be able to see at least fat32 files
[05:50] <lexmark> might be going to the wrong place, is it under "computer"
[05:50] <Ng> medamaybe: afair they are stored as gconf keys
[05:51] <spiral> hi
[05:52] <monkey89> does anyone know where to get libXp.so.6 on breezy
[05:53] <Ng> monkey89: according to packages.ubuntu.com you want libxp6
[05:53] <monkey89> not in the breezy repos, afaik
[05:54] <m0rphx> hi
[05:54] <Ng> monkey89: no idea then, packages.ubuntu.com is clearly wrong
[05:54] <salkin> mjbunink: system-preferences-windows titlebar action will let you change from maximize to roll-up
[05:54] <m0rphx> is rhythmbox crashing for someone else on breezy?
[05:54] <monkey89> no, i think its right for hoary
[05:54] <monkey89> but maybe it's part of the x11 split
[05:54] <frogtone25> i have a question
[05:55] <frogtone25> whats the name of that theme for ubuntu that looks like mac os x
[05:55] <frogtone25> you can get it from synaptic
[05:55] <Subson1x> Kroller
[05:55] <salkin> m0rphx: I talked someone through a breezy install the other night and his rhythmbox also would vanish
[05:55] <namElEz> help i installed ubuntu+grub it said it will boot to ubuntu now but it booted to windows wtf?
[05:55] <DrSpin> are there any working hoary-extras or hoary-backports servers -- Apt just IGN mirrormax and PLANETMIRROR
[05:55] <spola> yeah i had the same thing, segfaults with rythmbox
[05:56] <spola> it had something to do with an invalid ogg file i think, cuz when i deleted it eevrything was AOK
[05:57] <namElEz> no one help?
[05:57] <PDani> where can i find ubuntu breezy-to-hoary backports?
[05:57] <vontrapp> namElEz: does it give you multiple options when you boot?
[05:57] <namElEz> no strait to windows
[05:57] <namElEz> just like always
[05:57] <vontrapp> did you get a grub screen at all?
[05:57] <namElEz> no
[05:58] <m0rphx> spola: mine crashes right on startup
[05:58] <spola> namElEz, did you (re)install windows after installing ubuntu?
[05:58] <namElEz> why the hell would i done that
[05:58] <spola> m0rphx, try opening it in a terminal and see what happens
[05:58] <vontrapp> when you installed grub did you install it to the MBR or just to the partition?
[05:58] <DrSpin> APT-get update will "IGN" both the planetmirror and mirrormax haroy-extras and hoary-backports -- any clue why or how I can fix it??
[05:58] <namElEz> i dunno it just asked do i want to install it
[05:58] <namElEz> i pressed yes it said it was safe
[05:59] <m0rphx> spola: crashes right after [0x80f6b38]  [rb_shell_construct]  rb-shell.c:822 (17:58:46): Constructing shell
[05:59] <marcin> hi all
[05:59] <monkey89> k, this will probably break something but im installing it from the hoary package
[05:59] <salkin> m0rphx: my rbox will come up. No audio files on this machine to test with though. Breezy current
[05:59] <marcin> I got a question - I need to fix some broken ntfs partition
[05:59] <namElEz> i have windows on sata drive and ubuntu on ide does it mater
[05:59] <DrSpin> !java
[05:59] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[06:00] <marcin> and I would like to scan this hdd and find bad blocks or something
[06:00] <vontrapp> namElEz: yeah, it's probably booting off the sata drive first, and grub would be on the ide
[06:00] <marcin> is there any linux tool to scan hdd with ntfs partition?
[06:00] <namElEz> so i need to change bootdrive on bios?
[06:00] <Subson1x> are there any good ubuntu blogs out there?
[06:00] <salkin> Subson1x: planet.ubuntu.com
[06:00] <spola> m0rphx, well that's a bit beyond me ... try temporarely moving you configuration to a seperate location and restarting it, if that doesn't fix it i'd file a bug
[06:00] <vontrapp> namElEz: if you can do that, then yes
[06:00] <namElEz> i go and try
[06:01] <m0rphx> spola: yep, tried that. still crashes
[06:01] <vontrapp> does hoary have alsa 1.0.9 yet?
[06:02] <m0rphx> volvoguy: yes
[06:02] <m0rphx> aeh, s/volvoguy/vontrapp/
[06:03] <franco64> greats to everyone
[06:03] <spola> m0rphx, file a bug :)
[06:03] <vontrapp> m0rphx: awesome
[06:03] <thehil>  If sum and size are int value, does (float)sum/(float)size calculate their quotient?
[06:03] <franco64> my first couple of weeks with the ubuntu distro
[06:03] <franco64> not bad
[06:04] <m0rphx> spola: I looked at the changelog right now, I think it's already fixed in cvs
[06:04] <m0rphx> franco64: that's cool
[06:05] <franco64> well i am still a little novice on the linux  at the moment and a friend of mine said top try this
[06:06] <franco64> i had the fedora discs but i do not want another redhat linux type
[06:07] <franco64> i think it's better to get to the dirty stuff and learn the coding method of installation
[06:07] <bytefoo> ooooh
[06:07] <bytefoo> i hit ctrl+c while doing a dist-upgrade >_<
[06:07] <bytefoo> that's not gonna be good :X
[06:07] <vontrapp> bytefoo: i think you should be fine if you just run it again
[06:08] <bytefoo> says dpkg is locked :-/
[06:08] <m0rphx> try dpkg --configure -a
[06:08] <m0rphx> or something like that
[06:09] <franco64>  can anyone help me getting clamav showing as a app on the applications option
[06:09] <franco64> i have it installed and works fine in the back ground
[06:09] <janne__> how can i make short cuts to files....like game what im playing in root and using wine to open it?
[06:11] <spola> hmm i downloaded a file and i don't know what it is, when i file it it says "data"
[06:12] <janne__> can someone help me to make shortcut? To wine game....
[06:12] <Winux> Hello
[06:12] <Winux> Can anybody help me?
[06:13] <andydavid> hola mundo
[06:13] <Winux> Does anybody know how to create a second user?
[06:13] <franco64> well u can use the ln -s command to make a symlink
[06:14] <franco64> if u want any info on ubuntu i would recommand going to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[06:14] <franco64> Winux: has what u want
[06:15] <qt2> err, is thre a way to restore the default permissions of a certain directory?
[06:15] <ivoks> qt2: which one?
[06:15] <qt2> someone at my house somehow managed to chmod my /etc dir... <.<;
[06:15] <franco64> janne__ u see my commant on creating a symlink
[06:15] <andydavid> nadie habla espanol aqui
[06:15] <ivoks> qt2: chown root:root /etc
[06:15] <ivoks> qt2: chmod 755 /etc
[06:16] <qt2> thanks ;)
[06:16] <qt2> ivoks, is that recursive?
[06:16] <ivoks> qt2: no
[06:16] <Masterkong> what's the best music and movie players for linux?
[06:17] <qt2> because i'm pretty sure the command used was chown -R
[06:17] <ivoks> heh
[06:17] <ivoks> reinstall :)
[06:18] <mae> Masterkong, the most tried and true ones would be either mplayer or xine .. youll also need libdvdread3 and libdvdcss for playing dvd's and the win32 codecs to play various non-free codecs
[06:18] <Malin`> does ubuntu have php installed by default?
[06:18] <ivoks> no
[06:18] <mae> no
[06:18] <mae> php sucks
[06:18] <mae> :)
[06:18] <Malin`> thx
[06:18] <ivoks> python rulz
[06:18] <mae> python s'ok
[06:18] <frisbeboy> faster than php?
[06:18] <DrSpin> Sun's Java download page is hosed
[06:19] <mae> frisbeboy, speed really isn't the issue, the issue is that php is not good for large projects it gets really sloppy
[06:19] <f_newton> Seveas, are you around?
[06:19] <Subson1x> mae: what is better? JSP`
[06:19] <frisbeboy> mae: what do you mean?
[06:19] <DrSpin> mae: any coded program gets sloppy --
[06:19] <Xenguy> better for what?
[06:19] <DrSpin> look at Xfree86
[06:19] <DrSpin> ;)
[06:20] <haakonn> sloppy? it's more that the code becomes hard to maintain :)
[06:20] <f_newton> how about thoreauputic ?
[06:20] <frisbeboy> aaa mm
[06:20] <mae> Subson1x, JSP is O.K. python is pretty good, ruby on rails is good, they use fully object oriented languages.. (well python.. almost)
[06:20] <salkin> Subson1x: common lisp
[06:20] <f_newton> !partitioning
[06:20] <ubotu> f_newton: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:20] <namElEz> it started ubuntu
[06:20] <f_newton> I need to partition a dual boot box...\
[06:20] <cobb> Hello, I thought usermod -G added groups to a user. Next time I will remember to include previous groups the user was member of. At least groups needed for sudo. Ok, thanks
[06:21] <namElEz> but it when it tried to read cd it complained about I/O error on hda
[06:21] <namElEz> then some package handling program started
[06:21] <Subson1x> mae: but JSP only if you make use of netbeans, the plain JSP is similar to PHP, isn't it?
[06:21] <salkin> Subson1x: check out http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/
[06:21] <f_newton> I am sure how to do that with the partitioner available with ubuntu
[06:21] <mae> Off i go to have some all-bran cereal to make me more regular
[06:21] <namElEz> and i acccidently exited it
[06:21] <f_newton> !dual boot
[06:21] <ubotu> f_newton: What?
[06:22] <namElEz> how do i get ubuntu to graphic interface
[06:22] <f_newton> !installation
[06:22] <ubotu> f_newton: No idea
[06:22] <f_newton> yeah
[06:22] <f_newton> great
[06:22] <thenuke> namElEz: startx
[06:22] <namElEz> didnt work
[06:22] <mae> Subson1x, err, netbeans is an IDE.. plain JSP still uses Java which is object oriented, PHP is a "quick and dirty" abominiation/combination of perl/c syntax with less features
[06:22] <namElEz> so the installation didnt complete
[06:22] <thenuke> reboot
[06:22] <DrSpin> namElEz: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <Subson1x> mae: i meant javabeans, sorry
[06:23] <namElEz> but how can i complete installation
[06:23] <franco64> namElez; what did u install KDE or Gnome
[06:23] <DrSpin> namElEz: are you in the installer now?
[06:23] <namElEz> no im in windows
[06:23] <mae> Subson1x, hehe well still even without the beans, java is still a bit better than php, but you can't beat php for quick and dirty stuff
[06:23] <f_newton> DrSpin, do you know where i can find out how to dual boot a win/ubuntu box?
[06:23] <DrSpin> namElEz: when you boot to linux it just comes up to a prompt ?
[06:23] <mae> but long-term maintainability, it sucks :)
[06:23] <DrSpin> f_newton: yes wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:23] <f_newton> thanks
[06:23] <Subson1x> mae: but i thought the new version of php is fully object orientated?
[06:24] <DrSpin> f_newton: np
[06:24] <salkin> Subson1x: oriented
[06:24] <cobb> can someone please run id and tell me which groups their primary (sudo-able) account is a member off?
[06:24] <namElEz> when i booted 1st time to ubuntu it asked for ubuntu cd i put it in and press enter. it said something about I/O errors on hda and put me in some packga handling program
[06:24] <mae> Subson1x, I am not sure about the new version.. version 6? .. well it might be but if it is, it is just _now_ achieving that :)
[06:24] <Subson1x> mae: hehe, ok :)
[06:25] <uthini> DVSoftware, it worked, the no CD patch, kinda dumb tho, i buy the game ligitimately now i gotta crack it :) its like Maya, maya is easier to crack than to license LOL
[06:25] <namElEz> i accidentaly quited it i didnt know what to do with it
[06:25] <DrSpin> adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin cole musicfiles
[06:25] <ivoks> who's for a game of njam?
[06:25] <sdfg> Hi everybody.. I need some help :) trying to install 5.04 on a brand new PC (with serial ATA), and it hangs for ever on the "configuring main archive" screen... heeeeelp :(
[06:25] <DrSpin> sudo nano -w /etc/suders
[06:25] <DrSpin> and put your username in there
[06:25] <salkin> cobb:  groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(my username)
[06:25] <cobb> uthini: Easier to crack by yourself or by others? hehe ;-)
[06:25] <cobb> salkin: Thank you a bunch
[06:25] <ivoks> no one?
[06:25] <ivoks> :(
[06:25] <salkin> cobb: np
[06:26] <funkyHat> can i make screen start up automatically when i open a terminal/log into a terminal?
[06:26] <uthini> lol cobb, its easier to use a cracked version than to license the software properly, found that out at college
[06:26] <namElEz> so theres no solution for me?
[06:26] <mae> Subson1x, don't get me wrong, theres some good stuff written in php, like that forum i forgot its name.. but i am not a glutton for punishment like that :)
[06:26] <sdfg> so is it possible to install 5.04 on a 80GB serail ATA system ?
[06:26] <DrSpin> namElEz: saving you some heartache -- I would just restart the installer...
[06:26] <sdfg> serial ATA
[06:26] <funkyHat> i'm guessing i add something to ~/.bashrc but i don't understand the layout of it
[06:26] <ivoks> namElEz: your CD is dirty
[06:26] <namElEz> so i need to reinstall ubuntu?
[06:26] <mae> phpbb
[06:26] <DrSpin> namElEz: if it doesn't work -- syre
[06:27] <Subson1x> mae: phpbb is one big security hole :)
[06:27] <Subson1x> vbulletin is good, but commercial
[06:27] <namElEz> damn this sucks
[06:27] <funkyHat> Subson1x, what about phpbb with php safe mode enabled?
[06:28] <sdfg> please anyboy. any idea why my ubuntu install hangs forever ????????
[06:28] <unk^lap> I LOVE UBUNTU :D
[06:28] <Subson1x> funkyHat: depends on the provider, most users have no influence on that
[06:28] <tronica> same here
[06:28] <sdfg> so do I, that's why I'm trying to install it
[06:28] <mae> sdfg, try this on the boot prompt: "linux pci=noacpi noapic nolapic"
[06:28] <funkyHat> can anyone aswer my question about screen? ^
[06:29] <sdfg> mae.. thanks a million.. will try this
[06:29] <namElEz> do i need to delete ubuntu partitons before reinstalling?
[06:29] <_frank_> DrSpin: you still there?
[06:29] <_[MUPPETS] Gonzo> format them, this should be enough :)
[06:29] <_frank_> Seveas: the backport problems are only temporary I think. you still can download manually at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ the hoary-extras packages
[06:30] <DrSpin> _frank_: ???
[06:30] <_frank_> DrSpin: you can download java there
[06:30] <namElEz> how do i format them lol windows cant format them to ext3 or swap
[06:30] <sdfg> mae do you think it has something to do with serial ATA ? looks like he found the disk correctly
[06:30] <_frank_> DrSpin: and install with dpkg
[06:31] <mae> sdfg, i don't know, it depends where it freezes on install
[06:31] <mae> sdfg, did that line not help?
[06:31] <DrSpin> _frank_: as soon as I read manual download I was on it :)
[06:31] <funkyHat> namElEz, you can do it in the installer
[06:31] <DrSpin> _frank_: thanks
[06:31] <DrSpin> because the SUN download page won't load -- it just sits there  LOL
[06:31] <namElEz> ohh ill try with other dvd drive then
[06:31] <_frank_> DrSpin: its annoying when things that should work don't!
[06:32] <DrSpin> namElEz: WinXP works VERY well with EXT2FSD -- +RW and has a mkefs -j utility :)
[06:32] <mr> 
[06:33] <DrSpin> mr: That guy says some astounding things :S LOL
[06:33] <monkey89> ah, gnome games 2.11 is SO nice
[06:34] <monkey89> minesweeper is easier, solitaire is fixed up
[06:34] <monkey89> considering that i spend 90% of my time there, its nice :)
[06:34] <benjamin1254> my browser keeps on shutting down on me
[06:35] <benjamin1254> i open it and it quits on me few min later
[06:35] <monkey89> benjamin1254, try running it in a terminal to see what it crashes on
[06:35] <benjamin1254> how?
[06:35] <monkey89> benjamin1254, Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal, then "firefox"
[06:35] <c0rrupt_> lmao
[06:35] <monkey89> then if/when it crashes, there will probably be an error message in the terminal window
[06:35] <DrSpin> hooray for JAVA
[06:36] <_jeff> funkyHat: I don't know if you got the last thing I said since my internet connection went down
[06:36] <benjamin1254> terminal termintated for an unknown reason when i started it up
[06:36] <DrSpin> !audio
[06:36] <ubotu> DrSpin: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:36] <DrSpin> !burn
[06:36] <ubotu> DrSpin: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:36] <funkyHat> _jeff, looks like i didn't
[06:36] <DrSpin> !audioCD
[06:36] <ubotu> DrSpin: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:36] <Seveas> DrSchlauf, don't play with it
[06:36] <Seveas> DrSpin*
[06:36] <_jeff> Don't put it in .bashrc, since screen starts up bash
[06:36] <\dev\goat> hooray for super fast page transitions in deerpark alpha 2 !~
[06:36] <monkey89> benjamin1254, sounds like you have some bigger problem if terminal doesn't run... i dont know
[06:36] <DrSpin> what does #ubuntu reccomend to burn audio CD's for MP3, OGG, AAC
[06:37] <monkey89> DrSpin, serpentine?
[06:37] <h08817> i have a problem starting linux
[06:37] <DrSpin> never even heard of it
[06:37] <Seveas> graveman/gnomebaker/k3b
[06:37] <monkey89> it comes w/ breezy, don't know about hoary
[06:37] <_jeff> And infinite recursion isn't fun.
[06:37] <h08817> i have ubuntu
[06:37] <Seveas> and for breezy: serpentine
[06:37] <_jeff>  If you're using the gnome terminal, go to file and create a new profile.
[06:37] <adriyel__> _jeff GNU's Not Unix :P
[06:37] <_frank_> DrSpin: java worked?
[06:37] <DrSpin> gnomebaker doesn't work -- libao "do you have write permissions" so I chmoded it but doesn't fix it
[06:37] <DrSpin> _frank_: yup
[06:37] <monkey89> Seveas, btw, i tried getting nxplugin - when I try running the applet on this computer, it dies :(
[06:37] <DrSpin> java-version
[06:38] <monkey89> and nxclient hard locks trying to connect to localhost
[06:38] <DrSpin> java version "1.5.0_04"
[06:38] <monkey89> i have to check it out downstairs
[06:38] <Seveas> monkey89, talk to me later about that, have to go dogwalking now
[06:38] <monkey89> ok, bye
[06:38] <h08817> i get a t3-fs error ext3_find_entry: reading directory #655393 0[fail] 1
[06:38] <sdfg> mae.. stragely it freezes on the "preparring main archive for install" line (or something like that) (french translation...)
[06:38] <h08817> then it tells me to run fsck manually
[06:38] <_frank_> DrSpin: great maybe now I should upgrade mine, don't know what has changed since _02 though
[06:38] <h08817> what does it mean?
[06:38] <shamus> I just downloaded and isntalled a bittorrent .deb, how do I run the program?
[06:38] <monkey89> shamus, dpkg -i whatever.deb
[06:39] <monkey89> hope its legal :)
[06:39] <mae> sdfg, which cd are you using?
[06:39] <h08817> do u think reinstalling ubuntu will fix my problem?
[06:39] <sdfg> mae ISO install CD 5.04
[06:39] <shamus> monkey89, I've already installed it, i want to run the program itself
[06:39] <monkey89> shamus, depends on what the .deb is, see what files it installed in synaptic
[06:39] <_frank_> shamus: what bt client is it?
[06:39] <mae> hrmm
[06:39] <sdfg> mae it worked no problem on my old PC.. seems like this new hardware makes trouble
[06:40] <DrSpin> oooh Graveman is MUCH nicer than last time I used it
[06:40] <shamus> _frank_, bittorrent; it was the only one I could find for linux, besides Azureus.. which for some reason won't run
[06:40] <h08817> any developers in here right now?
[06:40] <mae> sdfg, what chipset?
[06:41] <storr> QUESTION - How do I export the address book from Evolution? /usr/lib/2.2/evolution-addressbook-export --format=csv does not work and Openoffice data source 'addressbook' displays blank valuses. tnks!
[06:42] <h08817> i can't even get into ubuntu
[06:42] <DekaPink> Does gunzip delete the file it was extracting from after it finishes extracting? :3
[06:42] <nightswim> DekaPink: yes
[06:42] <h08817> i could yesterday but now i can't
[06:42] <_frank_> shamus: azureus works for me. Also bittornado is in synaptic
[06:42] <reagent> hi
[06:42] <monkey89> doesn't ubuntu come with a torrent client on hoary
[06:42] <DrSpin> LOL
[06:43] <DrSpin> "cannot open input file (NULL)
[06:43] <reagent> I must be stupid, but I can't find the ubuntu netinstall images...
[06:43] <h08817> monkey89: yes
[06:43] <DrSpin> k3b i is
[06:43] <SymGeosis> Is anybody else having problems installing flash, lame, Sun JRE or mjpegtools from the repos? apt-cache can't find them nor can synaptic.
[06:43] <DrSpin> does k3b still require root permissions to work??
[06:43] <monkey89> SymGeosis, did you add multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:43] <SymGeosis> monkey89, I have.
[06:43] <monkey89> SymGeosis, and ran apt-get update?  apologies if this is obvious
[06:44] <DrSpin> SymGeosis: the backports and extras servers are having problems ---
[06:44] <SymGeosis> monkey89 yes. (it is but I don't mind as you're trying to help)
[06:44] <monkey89> different thing, you shouldnt need that for at least flash/lame
[06:44] <SymGeosis> DrSpin, I see. Thanks.
[06:44] <monkey89> SymGeosis, flashplayer-mozilla doesn't exist?
[06:44] <DrSpin> SymGeosis: you can get em from the mirrormax server as a downloaded .deb and then install with dpkg -i FILE.deb
[06:45] <franco64> symgeosis: have u added the extra repo
[06:45] <Malin`> how can i uninstall a program i installed from .tar.gz file?
[06:45] <SymGeosis> monkey89, Negative. I imported the sources.lst first from my other Ubuntu box and then Ubuntuguide which includes mirrormax, neither of them work.
[06:45] <DrSpin> is there a program that will burn cd's without ROOT privelages -- this is getting rediculous
[06:45] <SymGeosis> franco64, Affirmative.
[06:45] <monkey89> Malin`: if it was a ./configure/make/make install, a make uninstall or maybe deinstall from the directory should work
[06:45] <Jhair> would an installation from netinstall images only be successful if you can connect to a DHCP server?
[06:45] <SymGeosis> I even added the new official backport server.
[06:45] <h08817> what is fsck
[06:45] <alex_> hey what can I use to listen to a oggvorbis stream
[06:46] <Malin`> thanks monkey89
[06:46] <DrSpin> SymGeosis: http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/
[06:46] <Subson1x> h08817: a filesystem check
[06:46] <Subson1x> man fsck
[06:46] <monkey89> SymGeosis, that's very odd then... I'm on breezy, so I don't know if it's a hoary specific problem, but i have flash no problem here.  sorry
[06:46] <h08817> Subson1x: well i have a problem and i can't get into ubuntu
[06:46] <SymGeosis> I got this after a clean install. I used the same sources list that I had before so it's really strange.
[06:46] <alex_> anyone has an idea or should I install XMs ?
[06:47] <franco64> strange becuase i run apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 and it works fine for me
[06:47] <franco64> have all those apps that u mention working on my system
[06:47] <reagent> can anyone tell me where I can find the ubuntu netinstall images?
[06:47] <SymGeosis> I even copied exactly what ubuntuguide has which has worked before in the past so I don't know what's up.
[06:48] <sdfg> mae via vt6307
[06:48] <h08817> Subson1x: i get a t3-fs error ext3_find_entry: reading directory #655393 0[fail] 1
[06:48] <h08817> Subson1x: then it says run fsck manually and it crashes
[06:48] <franco64> u might have to recompile some programs
[06:49] <Belutz> !fonts
[06:49] <ubotu> I heard fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[06:49] <clubwins> bojour
[06:49] <Belutz> thx ubotu
[06:49] <Subson1x> h08817: boot with a rescue cd and start fsck manually
[06:50] <h08817> Subson1x: with the cd which i installed ubuntu?
[06:50] <benjamin1254> hey this is wha i get in root terminal for when firefox dies out
[06:50] <benjamin1254> *** loading the extensions datasource
[06:50] <benjamin1254> *** loading the extensions datasource
[06:50] <benjamin1254> Segmentation fault
[06:50] <monkey89> segfault=bad
[06:50] <monkey89> as to why its happening... hmm
[06:50] <openBack> hi, I copied all of /usr to another partition, and am using that as /usr now, but I'm wondering what the best way to delete the file in the original /usr is
[06:50] <catfox> does anyone know if oggenc has any option to speed up encoding? it's quite slow compared to lame with "preset fast standard" option
[06:51] <shamus> How can I make a .torrent file ?
[06:51] <DrSpin> lmfao -- k3b is the ONLY burning application that will work without root privelages
[06:51] <benjamin1254> shamus why would u need 2?
[06:51] <mae> sdfg, hrmm.. well look at the help on bootup and see what else they reccomend for crashing or maybe via chipsets
[06:51] <DrSpin> that blows my mind
[06:51] <mae> i think its like f5 or something
[06:51] <decaf> shamus: use azureus for all bittorrent needs
[06:52] <DrSpin> oh and t freezes mid burn :/
[06:53] <franco64> i would love to use azureus but it will not work for me
[06:53] <benjamin1254> mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search
[06:53] <Fish-Face> Is it possible to tell apt that a broken package isn't?
[06:54] <storr> Question - Evolution Addressbook. Howto export the data. Any ideas?
[06:54] <mae> sdfg, did you check the integrity of your cd?
[06:54] <jepeltw> hello all. I'm trying to install ndiswrapper 1.2 from source. I installed the kernel-source-2.6.10 package and linked /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build to /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10, but make reports that the directory does not contain the kernel source
[06:54] <mc_flurry> iros todos a tomar por culo i'm spanish
[06:55] <shamus> decaf, I installed Azureus but I'm getting an error when trying to run it, unknown source over and over in the terminal. I get the spalsh screen and that's it
[06:55] <reagent> well now I understand why so many people are asking ubuntu questions in #debian... being simply ignored is not very nice...
[06:56] <c0rrupt_> how can you run something in a terminal in a daemon type mode even though its not daemonized
[06:56] <monkey89> reagent - maybe no one knows?
[06:56] <benjamin1254> mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search
[06:56] <monkey89> what's your question again
[06:56] <c0rrupt_> so it returns to the prompt with the process still running in the backround
[06:56] <reagent> monkey89: so how do you install ubuntu then...
[06:56] <reagent> monkey89: I'm looking for the netinstall images...
[06:56] <openBack> c0rrupt_: add & to the end of the command
[06:57] <JBE> I'm trying to install Sylpheed-Claws-1.0.4 from Universe.
[06:57] <decaf> shamus: can you paste it to #flood or pastebin ?
[06:57] <monkey89> reagent, ftp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[06:57] <monkey89> nothing a quick google can
[06:57] <monkey89> can't fix
[06:57] <JBE>  However, when I type 'sudo apt-get install -f sylpheed-claws=1.0.4-1 libc6>=2.3.4-1 sylpheed-claws-i18n=1.0.4-1' the only message is "E: Broken packages"
[06:57] <monkey89> reagent, and a howto here http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[06:57] <Determinist> reagent, being lazy doesnt give you the right to criticize. people here do what they do because they want to. no one owes you anything.
[06:58] <reagent> monkey89: great, thank you
[06:58] <monkey89> no problem
[06:58] <c0rrupt_> thanks!
[06:58] <reagent> Determinist: I googled for it
[06:58] <shamus> !paste
[06:58] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:58] <monkey89> "ubuntu netinstall", first result
[06:58] <monkey89> hehe
[06:58] <DrSpin> unmaskIRQ -- CD burning works much better
[06:58] <Determinist> i rest my case.
[06:58] <monkey89> just replace warty with hoary on the page
[06:59] <openBack> hi, I copied all of /usr to another partition, and am using that as /usr now, but I'm wondering what the best way to delete the file in the original /usr is
[06:59] <reagent> monkey89: well ok ubuntu netinstall image not first result
[06:59] <monkey89> the fourth one :)
[06:59] <monkey89> im just kidding around, but googling for a while generally helps
[06:59] <shamus> decaf, here's a big chunk of the errors http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1637
[07:00] <Tortel> how do i log in as the root user?
[07:00] <Tortel> :P
[07:00] <benjamin1254> mokey i have been through ebay and paypal alot and everytime it  crashes it gets even worse w/ java and javascript turned on... i need thoes cuz some of thoes sites need it to work... it cutss out alot in the midst of a search
[07:00] <monkey89> Tortel: any reason why sudo doesn't work
[07:00] <reagent> monkey89: well I got 504 results for ubuntu netinstall image so I guessed there were no netinstall images at all...
[07:00] <cyprinus> how to extract .bin file?
[07:00] <Tortel> sudo?
[07:00] <Tortel> sorry, im new with linux
[07:01] <monkey89> Tortel, sure.  if you want to run a command as root, prefix it with "sudo"
[07:01] <Tortel> oh
[07:01] <monkey89> then just enter your password and it runs as root
[07:01] <monkey89> part of the ubuntu philosophy is not to need the root user
[07:01] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Tortel about sudo
[07:01] <monkey89> !sudo
[07:01] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:01] <monkey89> :)
[07:01] <cyprinus> can anyone advise me? 'bout .bin's?
[07:02] <monkey89> .bin's are usually self-executables.  chmod +x whatever.bin, ./whatever.bin
[07:02] <_frank_> shamus: how did you install azureus and java?
[07:02] <cyprinus> thx
[07:03] <Determinist> anyone here ever tried NX?
[07:03] <Determinist> is it any better than VNC?
[07:03] <reagent> monkey89: The link to the ftp archive is for netboot, not netinstall
[07:03] <franco64> _frank_: for java i use the following apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[07:03] <alex_> excuse me but I am not sure where you specifiy the mountpoint in the conf file or in the source client ?
[07:03] <monkey89> Determinist, much better, but it needs a client installed (not just running vncview)
[07:03] <qt2> err, is thre a way to restore the default permissions of everything recursivly in my /etc directory?
[07:03] <mae> Determinist, for low bandwidth-connections definitely, yes
[07:04] <monkey89> reagent, oh... but the howto mentions netinstall, doesn't it?
[07:04] <spola> painless p2p in ubuntu, is it possible yet?
[07:04] <thoreauputic> Seveas: OK nothing I do seems capable of convincing launchpad that I have signed the CoC - despite following directions. You *might* say I'm thoroughly pissed off with launchpad... Of course no doubt *I'm* at fault :/
[07:04] <shamus> _frank_, apt-get to install java and followed azureus' instructioons, I believe all they said was untar, cd and run ./azureus .. which is what i'm doing
[07:04] <Determinist> mae, for a connection with 16kbps upload?
[07:04] <monkey89> reagent, by netinstall... do you mean doing stuff like that, or do you just want it to install packages from the repositories instead of the cdrom?
[07:04] <medamaybe> how do I kill a crashed process (xmms is crashing :/)
[07:04] <Determinist> that's bytes, not bits :)
[07:04] <reagent> monkey89: yes, but I think it means netboot :). Anyway I'll look at the files and maybe it's even possible to pack them together on a cdrom
[07:04] <mae> Determinist, Kb or KB
[07:04] <monkey89> Determinist, well, vs. VNC, yes
[07:04] <mae> oh ya, no problem
[07:04] <mae> it can do good overa  modem connection
[07:05] <Determinist> medamaybe, ps ax | grep <name of program> then killall name of program
[07:05] <reagent> monkey89: yeah I want to install ubuntu from an online repo using a small iso image to boot
[07:05] <monkey89> reagent, if thats all you need to do, whats wrong with doing a standard install and then doing apt-get upgrade
[07:05] <spola> medamaybe, "killall xmms", or "xkill"
[07:05] <adjacent> how do i set my system up to automount USB flash drives?
[07:05] <medamaybe> thanks
[07:05] <redguy> !e17
[07:05] <ubotu> redguy: What?
[07:05] <Determinist> mae, KB.
[07:05] <reagent> monkey89: I don't have a CD and it would take me 2 hourse to download the image
[07:05] <Determinist> monkey89, thanks mate.
[07:05] <_frank_> shamus: you can install azureus with synaptics. If you're on amd64, you need to download the right version from the website
[07:05] <reagent> hours*
[07:05] <monkey89> reagent, and probably just as long to download the updated files? :)
[07:05] <Determinist> monkey89, any idea if the listening port is configurable? i only have port 443 open for outgoing traffic at work
[07:05] <monkey89> then how do you intend to boot from an iso
[07:05] <reagent> monkey89: no we have a local mirror
[07:05] <monkey89> Determinist, nx server runs through ssh
[07:06] <Determinist> monkey89, i see
[07:06] <franco64> shamus: what linux distro version of azureus did u download
[07:06] <Subson1x> is there a good howto somewhere to compile the kernel with ubuntu?
[07:07] <shamus> franco64, the linux gtk version
[07:07] <spekkie> Can anyone tell me a way to install mono 1.1.7 && devel tools through synaptic/apt-get without needing these ignored repositories?
[07:07] <shamus> _frank_, i searched synaptic for azureus, but it didn't find anything
[07:08] <monkey89> reagent, ok.  i can't say im sure how to make a custom CD... but perhaps looking somewhere (google/ubuntu forums) for install cd creation scripts might help
[07:08] <spola> if only there was a website where we could find documents published on the internet so we could find stuff outselves instead of endlessly asking the #ubuntu dewdz
[07:08] <reagent> monkey89: ok, thank you anyway for your efforts
[07:08] <Subson1x> spola: check out www.ubuntux.org
[07:08] <_frank_> shamus: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:08] <problematic> i need to download the jre plugin for ubuntu
[07:08] <problematic> i'd like to ask what to pick
[07:08] <Malin`> spola, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryDocumentation
[07:08] <monkey89> sun-j2re1.4 seems to work on mine
[07:09] <shamus> _frank_, hoary, x86
[07:09] <monkey89> er, without the sun-
[07:09] <monkey89> j2re1.3
[07:09] <problematic> linux amd64 or linux amd64rpm?
[07:09] <monkey89> j2re1.34
[07:09] <monkey89> arr
[07:09] <adriyel__> mmm...amd64 :)
[07:09] <adriyel__> !name
[07:09] <ubotu> adriyel__: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:09] <spola> that was a rethorical question :p (i was talking about googling)
[07:09] <_frank_> shamus: azureus is in backports, I suggest you install azureus that way
[07:09] <problematic> i've already finished the installation for that but it still won't work :P
[07:09] <shamus> _frank_, sorry, but what is backports?
[07:10] <problematic> weird... plus my firefox always hangs after a while
[07:10] <_frank_> !backports
[07:10] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[07:10] <adriyel__> problematic, are you using the 64-bit?
[07:10] <problematic> currently installed, yeah :)
[07:10] <JBE> Hi all I can see Sylpheed Claws 1.0.4-1 here:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/sylpheed-claws/
[07:10] <adriyel__> problematic, I have an AMD3500
[07:10] <moomooboy> hello
[07:10] <problematic> oh that...
[07:10] <Determinist> i gotta admit, working with a 19" TFT monitor can really change your habbits. had a 15" TFT for 2 years since yesterday ... just a different ballgame.
[07:10] <adriyel__> problematic, I've already encountered, debugged, and solved this problem
[07:10] <JBE> I have  universe in my sources.lst
[07:10] <h08817> well i guess i gotta do a lovely reinstall of ubuntu just what i am looking forward too
[07:11] <problematic> i'm on a lower processor thingy
[07:11] <problematic> :">
[07:11] <namElEz> ubuntu wont finalize installation on 1st it cant read cd and throws me to aptitude
[07:11] <adriyel__> problematic, you need to move the libflash plugin in your firefox directory out of there, its not 64-bit clean
[07:11] <problematic> amd duron 900mhz
[07:11] <adriyel__> problematic, until you do, Firefox will crash everytime you run into flash
[07:11] <moomooboy> can someone explain to me.. why ubuntu is only 1 CD.. while other distros are like 3-4 CD's?
[07:11] <JBE> If I so a "sudo apt-get install sylpheed-claws=1.0.4-1 sylpheed-claws-i18n=1.0.4-1" it tells me that version 1.0.4-1 cannot be found.  Anyone know why?
[07:11] <adriyel__> problematic, I thought you said you had 64bit?
[07:11] <adriyel__> wtf?
[07:11] <monkey89> moomooboy, not a large install.  you're expected to get packages you like from the repositories
[07:11] <spekkie> there is a problem with the hoary-extras repos
[07:12] <spekkie> i was told earlier on
[07:12] <_frank_> moomooboy: you download the rest
[07:12] <monkey89> while things like fedora come with all the needed software on the CD
[07:12] <Determinist> moomooboy, better handling of packages, no unneeded devel packages. it's a user oriented linux distro
[07:12] <survivor> moomoo: Because ubuntu only comes with one app per task, not all of them.
[07:12] <namElEz> so i cant get this thing to install properly?
[07:12] <adriyel__> moomooboy, its called bloat. Fedora literally has 6 apps for one task half the time
[07:12] <h08817> spekkie: like what?
[07:12] <moomooboy> oh i see
[07:12] <gratuit> I just installed breezy, and I'm having trouble running aterm I get the error "aterm: can't load color "Black", colorID = 0, (29)" and though xterm runs, I do get the errors xterm: Cannot allocate color magenta
[07:12] <gratuit> xterm: Cannot allocate color green
[07:12] <gratuit> xterm: Cannot allocate color black
[07:12] <gratuit> xterm: Cannot allocate color red3
[07:12] <monkey89> so do we, but in the repositories
[07:12] <Tortel> ok, how do i install identd? ( http://www.fukt.bth.se/~per/identd/ ) I need it to connect to irc.quakenet.org
[07:12] <moomooboy> thank you ^^
[07:12] <moomooboy> i guess ill be seeking a lot of help from you guys ^^.. since im new to linux
[07:12] <adriyel__> moomooboy, Ubuntu takes a different approach in that, it decides what is probably best, most of the time, thats correct for the majority
[07:12] <moomooboy> any books you guys can recommend me to get me started :D
[07:12] <adriyel__> I hate bloat
[07:12] <gratuit> any ideas?
[07:13] <problematic> thanks adriyel :)
[07:13] <saggytits> :( i cant install ubuntu .. blah
[07:13] <adriyel__> yeah, its called the Internet moomooboy
[07:13] <spekkie> h08817, like I just installed on this box and can't get my mono env up to speed cuz of Ignored repositories
[07:13] <adriyel__>  :P
[07:13] <moomooboy> well the reason im about to install ubuntu is because its the ONLY LINux i found that works with my WIRELESS card ! ^^
[07:13] <h08817> hmm i never had any problems with repos
[07:13] <namElEz> where is ubuntu forum?
[07:13] <moomooboy> :P thanks for that adriyel :P
[07:13] <monkey89> moomooboy, what card?
[07:13] <namElEz> oh i found
[07:13] <reagent> monkey89: ftp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch05s01.html section 5.1.2 is closest to what I want to do
[07:13] <moomooboy> hmm gotta check its on my laptop
[07:14] <problematic> i tried veryfying the installation for jre but it still won't work
[07:14] <adriyel__> moomooboy, heh, I like Ubuntu's hardware support :). no seriously, use google all the time, I do
[07:14] <moomooboy> thats why i was happy when sound works.. + wireless card works
[07:14] <saggytits> anyone had the problem that when you hit enter to install it .. it goes through the loading and then just turns black
[07:14] <adriyel__> moomooboy, here's a bash tutorial you'll want to read
[07:14] <monkey89> reagent, yeah, thats netboot
[07:14] <monkey89> i guess
[07:14] <adriyel__> http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/lts0060.html
[07:14] <spekkie> h08817, http://rafb.net/paste/results/gnoldm58.html
[07:14] <kevin06> I have a question about GIMP, and the channel is dead. How do I invert balck to white and vice versa. Tutorials say go to Image -> Color- Invert, but I don't have a Color sub-menu
[07:14] <problematic> i didn't receive any error message upon the installation of the jre
[07:14] <reagent> monkey89: no that's boot from a kernel and initrd which is on the harddisk
[07:14] <moomooboy> well i will take a look @ that..
[07:14] <moomooboy> i only did a fundamental class.. for linux cli
[07:15] <moomooboy> so i dont even know how to install a software properly -.-...
[07:15] <Determinist> i gotta write some script to turn backports on and off from sources.list :D
[07:15] <adriyel__> Ubuntu got my SATA drive, my sound, my nvidia-glx/6800GT, and my network all working out of the box. and my hardware is "exotic" :)
[07:15] <moomooboy> but im welling to learn!.. cause linux is DA FUTURE!
[07:15] <medamaybe> is it me, or is xmms unstable as hell?
[07:15] <Determinist> moomooboy, got that right mister.
[07:15] <lazlofruvous> i'm sysadmin of a lab at swarthmore college... we're looking at using ubuntu for our client machines, but wondering what the best automatic install/update system is? previously we've used FAI/Debian Sarge, is there an FAI for Ubuntu?
[07:15] <adriyel__> moomooboy, installing software is easy with Ubuntu, just use synaptic. Heh, some form of Unix is the future, not necessarily Linux. We'll see if Linux can get its act together on the desktop, although Ubuntu is helping that greatly
[07:16] <_frank_> Determinist: I just use synaptics to turn repos on and off
[07:16] <adriyel__> I don't use XMMS anymore, I use Beep-Media-Player, which is a fork of XMMS
[07:16] <adriyel__> XMMS isn't developed or maintained anymore moomooboy
[07:16] <I_C_WIENER> medamaybe, its yoi
[07:16] <Determinist> _frank_, ummm, you delete them from the repo list? or is there some enable/disable command i'm missing here?
[07:16] <adriyel__> sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[07:16] <moomooboy> yeh i agree on that.. im quite suprised on how easy ubuntu is..
[07:16] <adriyel__> moomooboy, my first Linux distro was Slackware...lol.
[07:16] <adriyel__> I don't wanna hear a damn complaint about synaptic, *laughs*
[07:17] <Determinist> adriyel__, poor you :)
[07:17] <moomooboy> adriyel .. how do i install codecs on ubuntu??
[07:17] <medamaybe> "E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player"  ?
[07:17] <monkey89> moomooboy, depends on the app
[07:17] <adriyel__> Determinist, I still like Slackware, thank you very much, due in no small part to slapt-get
[07:17] <adriyel__> moomooboy, get the gstreamer plugins
[07:17] <_frank_> Determinist: click show disabled software sources in the repositories settings
[07:17] <monkey89> for totem/rhythmbox, gstreamer0.8-whatever
[07:17] <Determinist> _frank_, thanks
[07:17] <sjg> !restrictedformats
[07:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:17] <adriyel__> moomooboy, search for gstreamer and just install everything that looks related
[07:17] <moomooboy> how about i come in after i install ubuntu now ^^
[07:17] <sjg> moomooboy, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:17] <_frank_> Determinist: then you can check/uncheck them
[07:17] <adriyel__> use xChat
[07:17] <moomooboy> ill come back and ask the same questions in about 1hr ^^..
[07:17] <adriyel__> hello sjg
[07:17] <sjg> 'lo adriyel__
[07:17] <openBack> is there a way to remove one of the default packages without apt or synaptic trying to uninstall ubuntu-base?
[07:18] <moomooboy> beeriteback :)
[07:18] <vajid> yelo
[07:18] <adriyel__> openBack, apt-get remove?
[07:18] <Xorlev> Okay, I'm trying to mount my NTFS drive on bootup, but it says "Special device /dev/sda1 not found". Its a SATA drive, which leads me to believe I need to compile SCSI device support into the kernel, not just a module.
[07:18] <mz2> is anybody else having problems with ati framebuffer & usplash?
[07:18] <Determinist> _frank_, yes, i wasnt aware of these options, thank you sir
[07:18] <monkey89> openBack, i dont think so...
[07:18] <Xorlev> Suggestions/comments?
[07:19] <adriyel__> Xorlev, no you don't, I was using SATA right from the install
[07:19] <prower> I stopped using Slackware a while ago, there were never enough pre-compiled packages for stuff available :> Unless you used Linuxpackages, but it's hard to verify their security
[07:19] <adriyel__> Xorlev, did it detect your windows install from the Ubuntu install? also try mount JUST /dev/sda, not with a #
[07:19] <monkey89> openBack, get smeg and hide it from the menu :)
[07:19] <_frank_> Determinist: it took me a long time to find that. before I would always edit sources.list manually
[07:19] <vajid> wher can i get game torrents?
[07:19] <adriyel__> prower, I compiled from source frequently
[07:19] <_frank_> vajid: wrong channel!
[07:19] <monkey89> vajid, keep it legal in here.
[07:19] <vajid> sowwie
[07:19] <Xorlev> adriyel__: Once my system is booted a mount -a works fine, its just on boot that it doesn't work.
[07:19] <Determinist> _frank_, same here, i dont feel like having the update manager install all sorts of packages i have no use for :)
[07:20] <openBack> monkey89: yeah, I did that for some, but it's just not right! :P
[07:20] <monkey89> openBack, hmm
[07:20] <adriyel__> *tilts head @ Xorlev* huh?
[07:20] <jepeltw> Anyone here use NDISwrapper?
[07:20] <monkey89> openBack, what if you install ubuntu-minimal instead of ubuntu-desktop
[07:20] <monkey89> (i dont know at all, but maybe)
[07:20] <prower> adriyel__: I did as well, but it's more complicated for some packages than others
[07:20] <adriyel__> how do you mean @ boot it doesn't work
[07:20] <namElEz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=319689#post319689    all
[07:20] <Tortel> how do i install pidentd? (http://www.lysator.liu.se/~pen/pidentd/)
[07:20] <adriyel__> prower, which is why I installed portage on Slackware...lol.
[07:20] <openBack> monkey89: you know, that would probably be best, but my system's already installed
[07:20] <monkey89> openBack, so?
[07:20] <Whistler> is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[07:21] <adriyel__> Whistler, yeah, but it'll go to ugly defaults.
[07:21] <Whistler> i heard that this is a dummy package
[07:21] <adriyel__> I like the Ubuntu desktop.
[07:21] <monkey89> its safe, but it apparently makes upgrades harder
[07:21] <Xorlev> adriyel__: When its booting up (initial /etc/fstab load) it says Special device not found: /dev/sda1. Then once I'm booted up fully (console, Konsole, etc.) I can remount and it mounts it just fine.
[07:21] <adriyel__> monkey89, yeahs.
[07:21] <monkey89> adriyel__, isn't artwork stored in another package
[07:21] <Whistler> oh so i better leave it alone
[07:21] <monkey89> (ubuntu-artwork)
[07:21] <adriyel__> Xorlev, so whats the problem? if it works, leave it be.
[07:21] <openBack> monkey89: but reconfiguring things is a hassle
[07:21] <adriyel__> monkey89, meh? I thought the package included theming and such
[07:21] <monkey89> your call
[07:22] <monkey89> adriyel__, no, i tihnk its just a meta package referring to everything that comes on the gnome desk
[07:22] <adriyel__> *shrugs* oh well
[07:22] <Xorlev> adriyel__: I'd rather not have to remount every time I reboot to get it to mount.
[07:22] <Xorlev> Whistler: I went through Synaptic and left the libraries and Synaptic
[07:22] <openBack> monkey89: I have yet to find an easy way to reinstall a whole system :'/
[07:22] <Xorlev> I removed everything else
[07:22] <adriyel__> Xorlev, write an entry into the cron daemon
[07:22] <qt2> so... i can use normal debian apt servers right? they're jsut not supported?
[07:22] <adriyel__> Xorlev, have it mount after you've logged in
[07:22] <adriyel__> since fstab is being gay...
[07:22] <Xorlev> adriyel__: I could do that.
[07:22] <adriyel__> *nods* indeed you could.
[07:22] <_frank_> qt2: no installing debian packages is asking for trouble
[07:23] <problematic> how do i remove the libflash plugin in my firefox directory?
[07:23] <Whistler> Xorlev so i can remove it safely?
[07:23] <qt2> _frank_, ah, okay... i guess?
[07:23] <adriyel__> for what its worth, fstab has given me mouth about that stuff before, but I have a set up where /dev/sda1 is windows, /dev/sda2 is Ubuntu, fstab mounts /dev/sda1 to /crappyos
[07:23] <sjg> lol adjacent
[07:23] <_frank_> qt2: If something is not in the ubuntu repositories, its better to compile from source
[07:23] <adriyel__> problematic, mv ~/.mozilla/firefox/libflash-mozplugin.so ~
[07:23] <sjg> err, lol adriyel__
[07:23] <adriyel__> thats one way
[07:23] <adriyel__> sjg, you like my mountpoint for win32 eh?
[07:24] <monkey89> ew, dont give it a / directory, stuff it in /media
[07:24] <Xorlev> Whister: I removed GNOME stuff manually (in Synaptic to see that it didn't kill anything I needed), but don't remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:24] <problematic> thanks adriyel :)
[07:24] <adriyel__> np
[07:24] <sjg> adriyel__, Thats how mine is too lol
[07:24] <adriyel__> lol.
[07:24] <adriyel__> I gave it a root directory because I access it frequently
[07:24] <Tortel>  how do i install pidentd? (http://www.lysator.liu.se/~pen/pidentd/)
[07:24] <adriyel__> and I wasn't gonna toss it in home
[07:24] <adriyel__> sudo apt-get install package?
[07:24] <Doonz> 6 episode onto 1 dvdr
[07:24] <problematic> adriyel... it says no such file or directory :P
[07:24] <monkey89> yeah, but if you manage to fix auto mounting in hoary, putting it in /media has it show up on your desktop automagically
[07:24] <_frank_> adriyel__: the "proper" place to put it is /media
[07:24] <sjg> mines just /mnt/microsloth
[07:24] <adriyel__> problematic, browse to ~/.mozilla/firefox
[07:25] <adriyel__> _frank_, "Proper" have never been my thing :)
[07:25] <adriyel__> problematic, I prolly typo'ed it or something, just move the plugin out of there
[07:25] <adriyel__> _frank_, I installed portage on Slack, is that an indication?
[07:25] <monkey89> hehe
[07:26] <_frank_> adriyel__: I guess... ;-)
[07:26] <adriyel__> someone needs to develop a secure version of IRC
[07:26] <adriyel__> encrypted with IP masking
[07:26] <monkey89> ip masking occurs on most servers
[07:26] <monkey89> and other networks already support https
[07:26] <monkey89> not freenode now thouh
[07:26] <sjg> That would be more of a ircd problem adriyel__
[07:26] <monkey89> er, not https, ssl
[07:26] <adriyel__> monkey89, not on some of the ones I go into.
[07:27] <sjg> And dancer ircd can do that afaik
[07:27] <adriyel__> sjg, why aren't proper defaults set that way then?
[07:27] <monkey89> true, but its a problem with their server, not IRC :)
[07:27] <adriyel__> seriously.
[07:27] <_frank_> adriyel__: on freenet, I think there is a super slow, super secure IRC
[07:27] <adriyel__> _frank_, note to self: new meeting place for clients
[07:27] <sjg> adriyel__, This network is setup how they want :P
[07:27] <adriyel__> sjg, I know, but its annoying nonetheless
[07:28] <adriyel__> lol, I tricked my dad into thinking I generated a hash of the Microsoft Office 2003 Corporate edition .iso
[07:28] <Determinist> any of you remmember where i can get that script that adds fat32 partitions to fstab?
[07:28] <Seveas> Determinist: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[07:28] <adriyel__> he was being paranoid and I wanted him to shut up, so I fed him some bullshit about it
[07:28] <Determinist> Seveas, i'm gonna stop saying thanks soon :P
[07:29] <problematic> the only libflash thing i was able to find was the one used by openoffice
[07:29] <problematic> no other libflash thingy in there :P
[07:29] <Doonz> anyone know why when i try to open the file manager it says starting then never opens?
[07:29] <adriyel__> Seveas, why is that script necessary? my /dev/sda1 is mounted automagically by FSTAB with no probs, I don't understand why everyone is ahving difficulty... :|
[07:29] <adriyel__> has anyone had experience with SATA-RAID on Ubuntu? does it work ok?
[07:29] <adriyel__> I'm gonna upgrade to a RAID rig soon
[07:30] <sjg> Ill be doing it soon Adr.. :P
[07:30] <adriyel__> me knoez it.
[07:30] <adriyel__>  :)
[07:30] <sjg> Like in a few hours, the gear came in this morning :P
[07:30] <adriyel__> yours will prolly be more comprehensive though
[07:30] <adriyel__> oh, SWEET
[07:30] <adriyel__> nice shipping :)
[07:30] <sjg> Overnight :P
[07:30] <adriyel__> no kiddin.
[07:30] <adriyel__> I get free 2nd day of zipzoomfly...I like ZZF...
[07:30] <adriyel__> from
[07:31] <Seveas> adriyel__, only removable drives are autom-mounted
[07:31] <dalamar> how can i prevent the cd/dvd writer window opening when I insert a blank dvd/cd?
[07:31] <adriyel__> Seveas, it asked me about my windows partition on the ubuntu install, and it made an FSTAB entry
[07:31] <adriyel__> its worked since, again, whats the issue with people's win32 installs here?
[07:32] <adriyel__> oh THATS interesting.
[07:32] <sjg> ?
[07:32] <adriyel__> how is that party getting mounted?
[07:32] <adriyel__> theres no fstab entry
[07:33] <adriyel__> yet its getting mounte
[07:33] <adriyel__> mounted at boot
[07:33] <carthik> HI all, how can I find out what wireless card I have without open my pc?
[07:33] <adriyel__> wtf?
[07:33] <carthik> opening my pc, that is
[07:33] <Tortel> how do you make it so you can modify /etc/
[07:33] <adriyel__> sudo passwd
[07:33] <adriyel__> su
[07:33] <adriyel__> ?
[07:34] <sjg> or, sudo su
[07:34] <sjg> :P
[07:34] <tsw> sudo -s
[07:34] <ycomb> sudo -s from a shell ...
[07:34] <adriyel__> lol @ sjg
[07:34] <pusling> what kde version is in breezy right now ?
[07:34] <_frank_> carthik: lspci
[07:34] <adriyel__> pseudo-root. yay.s
[07:35] <adriyel__> isn't sudo -s equivalent to sudo $SHELL ?
[07:35] <adriyel__> (insert shell of choice)
[07:35] <adriyel__> breezy has a kubuntu version out?
[07:36] <sjg> I guess sudo -s works, im just still used to using sudo su
[07:36] <carthik> _frank_, thanks: that says, among other things "Network Controller: RALink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01) ---- does that seem to be the one?
[07:36] <Tortel> what do i do after that?
[07:36] <adriyel__> sudo /bin/bash sudo -s sudo su all do the same thing (with a slight diff with su)
[07:36] <Tortel> i dont know much about commands
[07:36] <adriyel__> http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/lts0060.html now you do
[07:36] <adriyel__> have at it son.
[07:36] <shamus> _frank_, I added backports to my repositories, but still no azureus
[07:36] <shamus> and i ran apt-get update
[07:37] <adriyel__> ahhh, thats how you print from console.
[07:37] <adriyel__> sweet.
[07:37] <adriyel__> nano > emacs > vi
[07:37] <adriyel__>  :P
[07:37] <sjg> wrong
[07:38] <adriyel__> indeed.
[07:38] <sjg> vi >  .
[07:38] <adriyel__> pico && nano > *.*
[07:38] <adriyel__> printf("pwnt");
[07:38] <adriyel__>  :P
[07:38] <sjg> *rolls eyes*
[07:38] <adriyel__> I like my starry eyes. :D
[07:38] <adriyel__> in all seriousness, I am curious about vi
[07:38] <adriyel__> why use it?
[07:39] <sjg> More that, im just used to it
[07:39] <adriyel__> (not to start a holy war)
[07:39] <Tortel> damnit, is there a simple way to copy a file into /ect/?
[07:39] <adriyel__> lol, pico/nano just seem more intuitive
[07:39] <sjg> used pico a little, but mostly im just used to vi
[07:39] <sjg> and vi is powerful :P
[07:39] <adriyel__> sudo cp /filetobecopied /etc
[07:39] <deprave> vi annoys me
[07:39] <deprave> i don't know why
[07:39] <franco64> tortel why not use the cp command
[07:39] <adriyel__> define "powerful"...can it make gcc compile faster?
[07:39] <adriyel__> deprave, it annoys me too, its ok. Gentoo broke me in to nano.
[07:40] <sjg> No adriyel__ lol
[07:40] <adriyel__> that was sarcasm sjg
[07:40] <dalamar> the dreaded : commands
[07:40] <ubuntuhacker> Hi people
[07:40] <adriyel__> :QUIT
[07:40] <sjg> Now I absolutely hate emacs
[07:40] <adriyel__> :SHUTTHEFUCKOFFVI
[07:40] <adriyel__> :REBOOT
[07:40] <deprave> ahah
[07:40] <sjg> lol
[07:40] <adriyel__> I seriously got trapped in vi one time
[07:40] <_frank_> carthik: yeah that would be your wireless card
[07:40] <adriyel__> had to switch consoles
[07:40] <adriyel__> and kill the process
[07:40] <deprave> me too
[07:40] <sjg> just memorize the : commands and youre ok
[07:40] <dalamar> adjacent, LOL me too
[07:40] <sjg> :wq
[07:40] <ubuntuhacker> hi room
[07:40] <sjg> :q!~
[07:40] <adriyel__> thank you, now I won't get trapped in vi anymore
[07:40] <adriyel__> WTF?
[07:40] <deprave> pine is the first thing i install on all unix boxes i create
[07:40] <carthik> _frank_, thank you - so now I will try and get the rt2500 module installed
[07:40] <dalamar> opened a new console and checked the man page just to get out of the damn thing first time
[07:40] <ubuntuhacker> i just intall my ubuntu
[07:40] <adriyel__> q!~ <--- thats usability?
[07:41] <ubuntuhacker> i need some help
[07:41] <sjg> well :q!
[07:41] <sjg> not :q!
[07:41] <deprave> ubuntuhacker : and you're already hacking?!?!!?!? cheers!~
[07:41] <adriyel__> ...
[07:41] <sjg> err :q!~ isnt valid
[07:41] <sjg> :q! is
[07:41] <ubuntuhacker> lol
[07:41] <ubuntuhacker> tht's just a joke deprave
[07:41] <sjg> :q! is quit app without saving
[07:41] <adriyel__> deprave, running the metasploit framework isn't hacking, he's disqualified
[07:41] <snpz> hi, is there precompiled valknut package for ubuntu?
[07:41] <ubuntuhacker> lol
[07:41] <adriyel__> sjg how do I save my progress in this new game called vi?
[07:41] <sjg> :wq
[07:42] <deprave> no way he's a nitko and nessus ninja, leaving no trace in tripwire databases
[07:42] <adriyel__> *laughs* do I buy a Unix memory card?
[07:42] <ubuntuhacker> i really like ubuntu
[07:42] <adriyel__> kkz, wq...q!
[07:42] <adriyel__> hmm, lets hope I dun screw those up
[07:42] <ubuntuhacker> how do u people like it ?
[07:42] <dalamar> seckzy.
[07:42] <adriyel__> deprave, I can defeat the tripwire :)
[07:42] <sjg> vi, :read /etc/passwd, insert > fookthx, :wq
[07:42] <sjg> :P
[07:42] <adriyel__> deprave, just leave the some pr0n in /root, he'll look the other way
[07:43] <deprave> ubuntuhacker : it's nice for getting MS people's feet in the unix doorway.
[07:43] <adriyel__> ubuntuhacker, I fucking hate Ubuntu, really.
[07:43] <ubuntuhacker> naw i don't if i any of u can help me out with this
[07:43] <adriyel__> thats exactly why I use it, and why I tech support for users of it
[07:43] <adriyel__> lol
[07:43] <ubuntuhacker> i want to configure ubuntu as a gate way
[07:43] <ubuntuhacker> is there anyway out ?
[07:43] <deprave> o.O
[07:44] <adriyel__> deprave, seriously, leaving pr0n in /root is ninja-style, like leaving poisoned rice somewhere
[07:44] <sjg> No youre trapped
[07:44] <deprave> adriyel__ : word
[07:44] <sjg> Hi I like rice?
[07:44] <adriyel__> lol @ sjg
[07:44] <prower> I've used pretty much all the popular distributions out between 1997 to now, and the two favourites I have are Gentoo and Ubuntu :>
[07:44] <sjg> mmmm yay goood song
[07:44] <dalamar> its the best personal desktop distro period imo regardless if your switching from win or a linux guru
[07:44] <sjg> rockell - love :p
[07:44] <adriyel__> I like rice too, I'd better be careful, maybe I'll get ricer pr0n
[07:44] <adriyel__> dalamar, AGREED!
[07:44] <sjg> lol adriyel
[07:44] <deprave> ubuntu is ok for desktop operations, but for name/web/mail servers i prefer fbsd myself.
[07:44] <adriyel__> ubuntuhacker, are you talking about a firewall/dhcp gateway?
[07:45] <adriyel__> deprave, agreed. stability is King.
[07:45] <deprave> yep
[07:45] <ubuntuhacker> yea sure
[07:45] <sjg> Heh my name/web/mail is all on a ancient sgi indigo 2
[07:45] <dalamar> yeah the server thing I would be cluess about, just desktop stuff for me
[07:45] <adriyel__> can't beat FBSD security
[07:45] <sjg> gogo irix
[07:45] <ubuntuhacker> internet sharing
[07:45] <Coyctecm> hmm is safe upgrade to breezy?
[07:45] <Coyctecm> :D
[07:45] <Xinex> Anyone know why it crashes explorer to try and view the workgroup of computers now?
[07:45] <adriyel__> ubuntuhacker, I can't HEAR YOU SOLDIER! yea sure don't cut it son. DO YOU WANT A DHCP GATEWAY? HUH? SO RUN 10 MILES! (said in sergeant voice)
[07:46] <adriyel__> Xinex, do not tell me you came here with a win32 question
[07:46] <sjg> lol
[07:46] <Xinex> no
[07:46] <Gorth> how can I disable services? Isn't there a graphical tool for that?
[07:46] <dalamar> 'explorer'?
[07:46] <dalamar> shun
[07:46] <Cody_> Hello
[07:46] <adriyel__> Xinex, what is explorer then?
[07:46] <Xinex> It happened since I got ubuntu up
[07:46] <Cody_> I was hoping someone could help me setup a samba share.
[07:46] <adriyel__> sudo apt-get install samba
[07:46] <adriyel__> I figured I'd get that out of the way, to begin with
[07:46] <ubuntuhacker> like i want other computers to access internet from the ubuntu box
[07:46] <deprave> Xinex : are you trying to write to ntfs via a unix box?
[07:47] <Xinex> no
[07:47] <Xinex> I'm trying to view the workgroup of computers
[07:47] <adriyel__> Gorth, ps -aux will list processes... use kill to DESTROY THEM! BWAHAHAHAHAHA
[07:47] <Xinex> to view the ubuntu box
[07:47] <qt2> Gorth? In ubuntu? that'd be BUM(Boot-Up Manager)
[07:47] <deprave> then ubuntu isn't relivent to your MS problem, your problem is MS itself.
[07:47] <sjg> adriyel__, hrm, kill -9 -1
[07:47] <Gorth> adriyel__: sorry, i mean the bootup services in /etc/init.d
[07:47] <deprave> define "view"
[07:47] <Cody_> I installed samba via apt-get, I just am n ot sure how to setup what folders are shared (setup a share) and which uesrs can access it?
[07:47] <Gorth> qt2: ahh, thanks man :)
[07:47] <adriyel__> Gorth, just move them out of there
[07:48] <adriyel__> like, mv /etc/init.d/service /dev/null
[07:48] <snpz> anybody?
[07:48] <adriyel__> *snickers*
[07:48] <snpz> i try to compile valknut from source, but i have some kind of error
[07:48] <Xinex> I mean see the ubuntu computer on the network then read/write files to and from a few win boxes to *nix
[07:48] <adriyel__> I'm a bad person sjg.
[07:48] <ReleaseX> apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 returns couln't find package, what's the problem?
[07:48] <adriyel__> ReleaseX search for JRE on synaptic
[07:48] <Coyctecm> get java from sun microsystems site
[07:48] <adriyel__> meh @ Coyctecm might not be a wise choice.
[07:48] <Gorth> qt2: you wouldn't know another alternative that can be run from the console?
[07:48] <adriyel__> its better if he gets it from an Ubuntu repository
[07:49] <adriyel__> Gorth, use the move command!
[07:49] <sjg> adriyel__, Ive used both the java out of rep and off the sun site
[07:49] <snpz> maybe there is allready precompiled valknut package
[07:49] <adriyel__> Gorth, just move the services into a back up folder
[07:49] <sjg> both work fine
[07:49] <dalamar> it was broke in the repos last few days
[07:49] <adriyel__> sjg, kkz, makin sure, I've had issues with mixin packages of various kinds before (EEK, PORTAGE EATS YOUR SOUL IF YOU DO THAT)
[07:49] <snpz> ?
[07:49] <sjg> lol
[07:49] <adriyel__> lol
[07:49] <adriyel__> seriously, it does.
[07:49] <Xinex> would vnc being on mess up the network?
[07:49] <Gorth> adriyel__: ok
[07:50] <qt2> Gorth, err, *shrug* all i know is that BUM just is a graphical interface that edits a few files, so just find out what those files are ;)
[07:50] <sjg> Xinex, no
[07:50] <adriyel__> qt2, where is this magical interface?
[07:50] <qt2> as least that's what i've been lead to believe. ;)
[07:50] <Coyctecm> anyone knows any organisations using ubuntu?e.g universitys? or is this just distro for newbies to learn how to use linux?
[07:50] <adriyel__> I see nothing in gnome
[07:50] <Gorth> qt2: i know there is one but I just can't remember its name ;)
[07:50] <adriyel__> edubuntu is for educational facilities
[07:50] <qt2> adriyel__, System > Administration > Boot-Up Manager?
[07:50] <adriyel__> everyone can use ubuntu
[07:50] <adriyel__> I'm an intermediate user of Linux, and I use it
[07:51] <sjg> Coyctecm, My former university uses ubuntu in their open computer labs ><
[07:51] <adriyel__> (does a stage 1 tarball of gentoo successfully installed qualify me for level 10 dwarf?)
[07:51] <monkey89> haha
[07:51] <sjg> adriyel__, level 11
[07:51] <Coyctecm> I'm am not newbie at all..using linux since 1996...
[07:51] <monkey89> all it is is reading commands and entering them
[07:51] <adriyel__> SWEET!
[07:51] <adriyel__> I'm a Linux advanced user then
[07:51] <franco64> i have to say that ubuntu is great
[07:51] <adriyel__> and I use ubuntu
[07:51] <Coyctecm> but I really like ubuntu..it's great.
[07:51] <franco64> for any person that want'
[07:51] <sjg> Ditto coy
[07:51] <adriyel__> Coyctecm, and franco64 = double post :P
[07:52] <dalamar> yay for ubuntu ;)
[07:52] <Coyctecm> =)
[07:52] <sjg> Ive been a unix user pretty much since about 1991 or so, And I love ubuntu
[07:52] <theine> yay for vim!
[07:52] <franco64> learn linux from beginner to advance there is always thing to learn
[07:52] <adriyel__> lets all thank mark shuttleworth for providing the fund$$$ for this project
[07:52] <Blind-Guardian> hi
[07:52] <spekkie> does anybody here have the same problem with installing mono-jit (dep for mono) which can't install mono-assemblies-base-1.1.7 ?
[07:52] <adriyel__> franco64, yes, for example, I could start dev'ing for a project or something, but thats a bit of a timesink...(understatement)
[07:52] <dalamar> crazy rich people that have been in space, thanks
[07:53] <Coyctecm> I can't figure out why all newbies start first using ubuntu...there is much more easier(graphical tools) in other distros..
[07:53] <Blind-Guardian> i would like to host a server of a online game, ubuntu is good for this ?
[07:53] <Cody_> Anyone know about this samba question?
[07:53] <Coyctecm> I hate too much graphics...I love the command line =)
[07:53] <Blind-Guardian> command line for the win =)
[07:53] <sjg> Coyctecm, shrug. ubuntu just works :p
[07:53] <franco64> coyctecm: to learn any linux u first have to go beyond yourself
[07:53] <Coyctecm> yada yada
[07:53] <Jhair> I want to find out which files do not belong to any package on my system. Any ideas how this can be done?
[07:54] <franco64> and this is a great start for anyone
[07:54] <deprave> Blind-Guardian : as long as your game has a ported version for debian based systems, and you have everything needed to run the server (physical resources too) it should be no problem.
[07:54] <monkey89> ack.  anyone know why authentication would fail with freenx?  im getting "ERROR: wrong pasword or login" which is definitely not true.
[07:54] <judax> Coyctecm: ubuntu is red-hot, lots of press, plus ubuntu is all about linux-to-the-masses
[07:54] <Coyctecm> yes it's true. it's better start from the terminla
[07:54] <franco64> there is plenty of info and irc chats for people to get to grips with this
[07:54] <Blind-Guardian> rofl nobody's can help me ?
[07:54] <Coyctecm> terminal than clicking with mouse
[07:54] <deprave> Blind-Guardian i just answered your question
[07:54] <Blind-Guardian> urf sorry, thx
[07:54] <franco64> u have to push yourself or why go to linux
[07:54] <lewion> where is java?
[07:55] <Coyctecm> is here any ubuntu developers? I have one wish
[07:55] <deprave> !tell lewion about java
[07:55] <slask3n> Blind-Guardian: Help yuou with what?
[07:55] <adriyel__> Coyctecm, you're in the wrong channel for devs
[07:55] <lewion> yeah tell me
[07:55] <dalamar> #uvubtu-devel
[07:55] <adriyel__> Coyctecm, go to #ubuntu-devel
[07:55] <Coyctecm> ok
[07:55] <dalamar> ubuntu even
[07:55] <franco64> stay with windows (aarrgghh) or mac (which i have to say i do love) have loads of macs
[07:55] <Blind-Guardian> thx deprave
[07:55] <adriyel__> or ubuntu-dev
[07:55] <adriyel__> I dunno
[07:55] <sjg> #ubuntu-devel
[07:56] <adriyel__> franco64, install Linux on all the win32/mac machines
[07:56] <adriyel__> then cluster them
[07:56] <adriyel__> then own the world.
[07:56] <sjg> Lol
[07:56] <adriyel__>  :)
[07:56] <franco64> and the mac os is just another linux (sort of distro) and that is what got me interested in linux
[07:56] <deprave> correction
[07:56] <deprave> it's fbsd based
[07:56] <sjg> Take over the world, pinky and the brain style
[07:56] <lewion> lol
[07:56] <adriyel__> sjg, one of my pranks on the admins, was using their own computers, to crack the hash of their password. I used Clusterknoppix to cluster 2 classroom fulls of computers to crack it
[07:56] <Xinex> is there someone willing to help me with my win/ubuntu network problem that won't yell at me?
[07:56] <adriyel__> I bribed my favorite teacher into letting me, she hates the admins
[07:56] <franco64> well adriyel i have a pc that has windows and ubuntu twin boot
[07:57] <sjg> lol adriyel__
[07:57] <adriyel__> 70 computers tends to get a hash dealt with quickly
[07:57] <adriyel__> *ahhhh* that was glorious.
[07:57] <slask3n> Blind-Guardian: What was it you wanted to do?
[07:57] <deprave> Xinex what are you trying to do again?
[07:57] <franco64> i have three macs which i love to do graphics (which i have to say that linux is not the great at)
[07:57] <sjg> agreed, especially dumb admins that use easy passwords :P
[07:57] <adriyel__> theres 3 admins
[07:57] <medamaybe> ok, let me rephrase what I asked earlier: is it me or is ESD unstable as hell?!
[07:57] <Xinex> oh wait, deprave, I think I got it
[07:57] <adriyel__> their password = 3stooges
[07:57] <franco64> and linux for system admin stuff
[07:57] <_Jonas_> Hey, everybody. I got a question, maybe someone can help: I want to install ubuntu on my mom's old notebook. Its cdrom drive is broken so I can't use it. Is there any way to boot from an USB external harddrive?
[07:57] <sjg> lol adriyel__
[07:57] <Xinex> what is the command to start samba?
[07:58] <adriyel__> I'm serious.
[07:58] <Blind-Guardian> slask3n it is a bomberman online game
[07:58] <decaf> medamaybe: yes!
[07:58] <adriyel__> my dad and I cracked up when I told him
[07:58] <sjg> I dont blame you
[07:58] <Blind-Guardian> ( http://bomberman.epiknet.net )
[07:58] <medamaybe> decaf: so why does ubuntu come with esd?
[07:58] <adriyel__> they're such morons...
[07:58] <sjg> Thats a weeeeeeeeeak password
[07:58] <deprave> franco64: ......system administration is done on macs, unix boxes, xbox's, TI83 graphing calculators. you're just making excuses not to learn
[07:58] <adriyel__> they really should have seti@home or folding or something on the schools computers, they do NOTHING all night
[07:58] <decaf> medamaybe: becouse alsa's multichannel support is worse. it's getting better now
[07:59] <franco64> deprave: maybe
[07:59] <adriyel__> I'm gonna force them into making the school my personal supercomputer if they don't install folding...
[07:59] <survivor> folding?
[07:59] <adriyel__> (or maybe I'll do that myself *wicked grin*)
[07:59] <medamaybe> decaf: is there no alternative?
[07:59] <lenny_> how's it goin
[07:59] <adriyel__> its like seti@home, its a distributed work load model
[07:59] <deprave> adriyel__ : worm and virus propogation targeting windows machines, a diabolical plot to end the monopoly
[07:59] <franco64> i ahve done many admin stuff on the mac ( i am a network admin for a company that only really uses macs)
[07:59] <adriyel__> they divvie up the work
[07:59] <adriyel__> deprave, why do you think I support my local virus writer?
[07:59] <adriyel__> lol.
[07:59] <deprave> hah
[07:59] <adriyel__> I wrote a simple one not too long ago, just to piss off the admins
[08:00] <decaf> medamaybe: for gnome users, no. KDE people have "arts". it's a memory eater like all other KDE apps.
[08:00] <franco64> but the really good stuff is beyond the GUI interface which is all linux based
[08:00] <adriyel__> it had a habit of making the explorer shell flash like a kid with ADHD on crack
[08:00] <adriyel__> and then forcing a reboot
[08:00] <adriyel__> randomly.
[08:00] <deprave> ahah
[08:00] <adriyel__> erm, pseudo-randomly, sorry, no fuzzy there
[08:00] <franco64> so linux is what makes mac tick when it comes to admin stuff
[08:00] <Coyctecm> Is official ubuntu repos support for fluxbox or something similar window manager?
[08:00] <adriyel__> it was quite funny, because norton couldn't pick it up (didn't have a typical virus signature)
[08:00] <Xinex> what is the command to start samba and how do I get samba to start automatically with the computer?
[08:00] <Gerriall> Does anybody have a recommendation for configuring Dual Monitor inside Ubuntu?
[08:00] <medamaybe> decaf: so basically....KDE kinda somewhat sucks?
[08:00] <adriyel__> they couldn't figure out WHAT was going on
[08:00] <deprave> franco64 : no, linux isn't.
[08:00] <franco64> pc's i have to say i try to avoid
[08:01] <adriyel__> PC's are faster, deal with it.
[08:01] <adriyel__> they're cheaper too
[08:01] <lancer285> can anyone help me, I'm having problems killing a process
[08:01] <slask3n> Blind-Guardian: And you can't make it work correctly?
[08:01] <franco64> viruses viruses
[08:01] <adriyel__> I hate to disappoint you, but a dual Athlon X2 4800 is gonna pwn a dual G5
[08:01] <medamaybe> KDE sucks and gnome doesn't have a good sound server...that's kinda sad
[08:01] <decaf> medamaybe: that's just my own opinion. you should try yourself
[08:01] <deprave> franco64: OSX is powered on a FreeBSD based system, which is not Linux. being a system administrator i would hope you could differentiate the two
[08:01] <Xinex> what is the command to start samba and how do I get samba to start automatically with the computer?
[08:01] <adriyel__> medamaybe, whats wrong with sound in gnome? mine works fine
[08:01] <Blind-Guardian> slask3n yep, it pratically finish
[08:01] <adjacent_> medamaybe: we all need aqua
[08:01] <anacron> can you guys tell me what was the name of that winmac mounting script
[08:02] <adriyel__> deprave, um, what about OS 9? gotta give NeXT some love
[08:02] <adriyel__> lolz.
[08:02] <medamaybe> adjacent_: what's aqua?
[08:02] <lancer285> I need help killing a process.
[08:02] <adriyel__> its actually darwin BSD
[08:02] <Xinex> O_o
[08:02] <franco64> deprave: the structure is still the same
[08:02] <Blind-Guardian> but i can't disgn it :/
[08:02] <deprave> it's fbsd with a different name
[08:02] <adjacent_> medamaybe: mac's wm
[08:02] <franco64> bravo adriyel
[08:02] <medamaybe> adriyel_:  I can't play any sound files...xmms crashed, beep-media-player crashed, rhythembox crashed...:/
[08:02] <deprave> franco64: hardly, maybe the core principals
[08:02] <lancer285> if I type kill -9 7735
[08:02] <lancer285> it doesn't go away
[08:02] <adriyel__> medamaybe, use rhythmbox
[08:02] <Jhair> Xinex, /etc/init.d/smbd AFAIK
[08:02] <anacron> "winmac" automatic mounting script anyone?, what's the real name?
[08:02] <lancer285> if I do killall wineserver it doesn't die
[08:03] <Blind-Guardian> I need disigneur
[08:03] <medamaybe> adriyel__: rhythmbox keeps crashing as well
[08:03] <franco64> well if u where to do any admin stuff what would u rather use linux or mac
[08:03] <deprave> lancer285 : killall -9 wineserver maybe
[08:03] <adriyel__> medamaybe, install the gstreamer plugins from synaptic
[08:03] <Blind-Guardian> I need designer
[08:03] <Blind-Guardian> *
[08:03] <franco64> mac has still a few things that do cause problems
[08:03] <carthik> lancer do ps aux | grep wine then note the pid of the process you want to kill and kill that
[08:03] <franco64> it nice and it simple to work with
[08:03] <lancer285> deprave it's not killing it ):
[08:03] <medamaybe> ok, I'll try that (although last time I did that, it killed the rest of the sound server
[08:03] <anacron> Francis,  like linux doesn't?
[08:03] <deprave> franco64 : i haven't used mac since i was in grade school, i use unix for desktop operations and 'system administration' as you put it
[08:03] <Tortel> how do i copy a file from my home directory to /ect/ using sudo? i know "sudo cp {file} " but i dont know how to make it /ect/
[08:04] <carthik> lancer285, worst case, restart gnome and be done with it :)
[08:04] <deprave> lancer285: ps aux | grep wine, then kill -9 PID
[08:04] <chris> hey all, quick question what file deterimines if gdm or kdm starts?
[08:04] <lancer285> carthik I just did that. the process won't die when I do kill -9 pid
[08:04] <lancer285> or when I do killall wineserver
[08:04] <anacron> toran, first is the file you want to copy and then where you want to copy it
[08:04] <deprave> are you doing sudo killall -9 wineserver?
[08:04] <lancer285> just restart gnome then?
[08:04] <adjacent_> im glad we all use linux for a desktop. one day when the linux desktop becomes a reality we will be considered pioneers!
[08:04] <franco64> deprave mac's curent version 10.4 is all fancy and i do love it for basic things like graphics and even programming
[08:04] <lancer285> no, I'm not doing sudo
[08:04] <Tortel> well, to make my question simple, how do i edit the ect/inetd.conf file?
[08:04] <carthik> lancer restart gnome then... that would be ctrl+alt+backspace : before you do this, save whatever else you have to save
[08:05] <Tortel> whats the command to do that?
[08:05] <lancer285> k
[08:05] <carthik> Tortel, what text editor do you like?
[08:05] <franco64> but admin stuff u have to say that linux is more stable and u can adapt to your needs more easy
[08:05] <medamaybe> adriyel__ ALL of them?
[08:05] <Duvel> !gdesklets
[08:05] <ubotu> Duvel: Are you on ritalin?
[08:05] <Duvel> yes
[08:05] <carthik> Tortel, try sudo gedit /etc/inetd.conf
[08:05] <Tortel> whatever works
[08:05] <anacron> we drink ritalin!
[08:05] <Tortel> ok
[08:06] <deprave> franco64: anything you can do on your little mac boxes i can do on any pc, and probably better. and also my dad can beat your dad up
[08:06] <franco64> that's not nice deprave
[08:06] <deprave> s/pc/unix boxes
[08:06] <deprave> franco64 : it's a joke
[08:06] <franco64> are u still in your teens deprave
[08:06] <deprave> you know, like recess quarrals etc
[08:06] <sjg> deprave, my govenor can beat your govenor up.
[08:06] <chris> anyone know an easy way to change from kdm to gdm?
[08:06] <deprave> franco64: yes but i read at a college level
[08:06] <Tortel> yay that worked
[08:06] <Duvel> I apt-got gdesklets and gdesklets-data, now it says i need lmsensors... what can i do?
[08:06] <Tortel> brb
[08:06] <franco64> i hope so
[08:06] <lenny_> !repos
[08:06] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:07] <slask3n> Duvel: Install lmsensor
[08:07] <franco64> pc,mac,linux war
[08:07] <Duvel> slask3n, yes but how, they are not in apt?
[08:07] <deprave> well, pc can mean anything really
[08:07] <slask3n> Google is your friend ;)
[08:07] <franco64> what can i say they all steal from each other and we all bicker about it
[08:08] <Xinex> ugh, when I try to star samba it says the daemons fail
[08:08] <Xinex> start*
[08:08] <spekkie> is anyone else  having trouble getting restricted packages from hoary-extras? it happens with every mirror here. i would like to install mono-1.1.7 with monodevelop etc but it has unresolved dependencies and i don't have a clue as to what is causing this
[08:08] <Duvel> slask3n, i did google before i came here, found no help
[08:08] <slask3n> Duvel: Google for debian+lmsensor
[08:08] <deprave> franco64 : your theory is humerous
[08:08] <slask3n> Duvel: Or lmsensor+download
[08:08] <ubuntufun> hi
[08:08] <NoUse> !info lm-sensors
[08:08] <ubotu> lm-sensors: (Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 453 kB, Installed size: 1404 kB
[08:08] <Gnurdux> i cant find the downlaod for Kubuntu and a friend needs it
[08:08] <Xinex> ugh, when I try to start samba it says the daemons fail, what should I do?
[08:09] <Gnurdux> ah just foudn it
[08:09] <Coyctecm> is there anyway to install ubuntu without x-server?
[08:09] <Gnurdux> sry for the trouble
[08:09] <deprave> probably read a manual or something
[08:09] <Duvel> ah there that should help thx
[08:09] <deprave> Coyctecm : yes, in the beginning, it asks you if you want to install normal or server
[08:10] <franco64> gnurdux: see what happens when u use google
[08:10] <Coyctecm> deprave: ok, but will this "server" install all servers too?openssh and so on..?
[08:10] <franco64> like everyone google is king
[08:10] <franco64> i think everone can agree on that
[08:10] <franco64> well maybe with firefox
[08:10] <franco64> soory me being stupid
[08:11] <deprave> Coyctecm : it prompts you just like installing the regular way what software you want to install, and besides, what's so difficult about typing sudo apt-get install openssl?
[08:12] <lenny_> !kde
[08:12] <ubotu> A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/
[08:12] <Goshawk> in which packages is "glade--" located?
[08:12] <deprave> someone just walked up to me and called me a dork ass
[08:12] <Coyctecm> deprave: ok...good. No i was just asking cause I don't wan't servers, I just want ubuntu without X :)
[08:13] <lenny_> How do I get kde to be an option under sessions on the ubuntu login screen?
[08:13] <Coyctecm> deprave: Then I can install X anf fluxbox and so on without too much bloat =)
[08:13] <adriyel__> Coyctecm, if you wish, yes.
[08:14] <slask3n> Coyctecm: try reinstall with server install
[08:14] <Duvel> now if is for example start the system/misc sysinfo gdesklet, i only get a small square on the desktop, and clicking configure doesn't do anything
[08:14] <Coyctecm> yes that I will do, not with this machine but another one =)
[08:14] <medamaybe> adriyel__ do I have to install ALL of the gstreamer plugins? even the ones for alsa?
[08:14] <Coyctecm> thanks
[08:15] <ubuntufun> Hi anybody with the idea of using ubuntu for gateway server
[08:15] <slask3n> Coyctecm:  type server during install instead of just pressing enter
[08:15] <cyberix> Is there any player which understands OGG/Flac ?
[08:16] <deprave> yeah, reading stuff is much better than arbitrarily pressing buttons
[08:16] <Hoxzer> what is good sofware for doing C++ in ubuntu?
[08:16] <deprave> uh
[08:16] <deprave> pico
[08:16] <Duvel> starting a gdesklet only gives a small square instead of the info it should show
[08:16] <ubuntufun> i can't play videos in ubuntu
[08:16] <lenny_> cyberix:  I think xmms does if you install the packages for them... also available via apt I believe
[08:16] <adjacent_> Hoxzer: g++ works well for me
[08:16] <Jhair> Hoxzer, g++
[08:16] <Hoxzer> ok
[08:16] <deprave> !tell ubuntufun about win32codec
[08:16] <ubuntufun> is it possible to play videos in ubuntu?
[08:16] <Tortel> what will this command do?
[08:16] <Tortel> rsh machine /usr/sbin/identd
[08:16] <deprave> !tell ubuntufun about win32codecs
[08:16] <Doonz> can you guys think of anyreason why i cvant get nautilis to open up?
[08:16] <deprave> wtf
[08:16] <deprave> what's the activator
[08:17] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me which gstreamer plugins are useful for esd?
[08:17] <cyberix> lenny_: Too bad. Xmms crashes before I can see the GUI.
[08:17] <Hoxzer> Im thinking about buying a laptop so I can program in school
[08:17] <deprave> !codec
[08:17] <ubotu> deprave: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:17] <Tortel> !tell Tortel about win32codecs
[08:17] <Duvel> !tell ubuntufun about w32codecs
[08:17] <deprave> thanks
[08:17] <deprave> thanks Duvel
[08:17] <anacron> !mount
[08:17] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:17] <keith> hey i got a q about the boot loader provided on the ubuntu cd
[08:17] <Xinex> why do the samba daemons fail when I try to start it?
[08:17] <nerdy2> medamaybe: gstreamer0.8-esd   ?
[08:17] <Doonz> can anyone recomend another file manager instead of nautilis?
[08:17] <medamaybe> nerdy2: nothing more?
[08:17] <keith> if i install windows on the other partition for a dual boot and it overwrites the current bootloader (which it will)
[08:17] <keith> can i just put in the cd and you know replace the boot loader with lilo or something?
[08:18] <cyberix> I'd also need a cd-ripper that'd support tagging the OGG/Flacs. It seems that abcde does not :-(
[08:18] <Doonz> !file manager
[08:18] <Duvel> anybody installed gdesklets succesfully?
[08:18] <Doonz> !filemanager
[08:18] <ubotu> Doonz: Are you smoking crack?
[08:18] <Doonz> your a crack bot
[08:18] <nerdy2> medamaybe: that's the esd specific part  :)  you probably want other things  like the cdparanoia and vorbis plugins to play certain media
[08:18] <Duvel> !botsnack
[08:18] <ubotu> thanks duvel :)
[08:19] <Duvel> a snackbot
[08:19] <deprave> anyone have success getting gaim-vv running properly on ubuntu?
[08:19] <Tortel> !tell Tortel about w32codecs
[08:19] <bikram_> ./test
[08:21] <medamaybe> nerdy2: thanks
[08:22] <nerdy2> medamaybe: you can "apt-cache search gstreamer0.8" and see what things you will want  (e.g. get the dvd plugin if you want to...)
[08:22] <nerdy2> medamaybe: or search for gstreamer0.8 in synaptic :)
[08:23] <medamaybe> cool, I'll try that
[08:23] <bikram_> MySQL packages are installed but I am not being able to use mysql. Why?
[08:23] <Xinex> Why do the samba daemons fail to start?
[08:24] <NoUse> bikram_ have you started the server?
[08:25] <bikram_> i don't know where to look for that.
[08:27] <NoUse> bikram_ make sure you have the server installed apt-get install mysql-server
[08:27] <keith> hey if i boot the ubuntu cd will it let me install lilo and just lilO/
[08:27] <bikram_> Hey NoUse: I'm trying for that,
[08:28] <bikram_> NoUse: could not install, the error message:-
[08:28] <lenny_> Is there a sun jdk package available from apt, or should I just use the bin from the sun web site
[08:28] <bikram_> Package mysql-server is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:28] <bikram_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:28] <bikram_> is only available from another source
[08:28] <bikram_> E: Package mysql-server has no installation candidate
[08:28] <lenny_> also, how do you change your login path in ubuntu, i.e. where would I add /usr/java/jdk/bin in the login scripts
[08:29] <lenny_> !java
[08:29] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:29] <keith> !lilo
[08:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, keith
[08:30] <biblio> can anyone let me know how to change the language from english to spanish_
[08:30] <anacron> i found cedega deb file somewhere, should i install it instead of cedega cvs?
[08:31] <pcharky> biblio: apt-get install localeconf
[08:31] <ubuntufun> hey i got to go and switch back to windows if i can't play videos in ubuntu
[08:31] <biblio> thanks!
[08:31] <pcharky> ubuntufun: What's the problem?
[08:32] <anacron> ubuntufun: install vlc and they work
[08:32] <ubuntufun> i can't play back my videos
[08:33] <ubuntufun> how is it done ?
[08:33] <Tortel> Anyone know a good and easy to use/install ident server?
[08:33] <bigmouth000> hey room
[08:33] <pcharky> ubuntufun: sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:33] <xhaker> Tortel.. apt-get install oidentd
[08:34] <titaniululz2> how do i restart the entire x interface?
[08:34] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: hey, state your problem
[08:34] <ubuntufun> thanx pcharky
[08:34] <anacron> ubuntufun, if you have alsa then use vlc-alsa
[08:34] <xhaker> titaniululz, ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:34] <anacron> or "if you use alsa"
[08:34] <floppyears> hi
[08:34] <bigmouth000> yea ... avi fil probly divx ripped plays great vid but no audio
[08:34] <bigmouth000> sound works great otherwise
[08:34] <floppyears> I'm trying to create a ssh key, but I'm not sure if I should use dsa or rsa as the algorithm, could somebody explain me which one is better?
[08:34] <bigmouth000> in vlc i.e
[08:35] <robotgeek> crimsun_ is the sound guy, let's see if your timing is right :)
[08:35] <pcharky> floppyears: I believe rsa is better, but i'm not sure, and (very bad) I don't know why
[08:35] <bigmouth000> also, does it make a diff if the file is being read from an ntfs partition,
[08:35] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: do u have all vlc packages, like vlc-alsa etc?
[08:35] <nalioth_wrkn> floppyears: an ssh key or gpg?
[08:36] <Tortel> :(
[08:36] <titaniululz2> is there anything else i can try besides ctrl alt backspace to reset things? i'm using freenx to control this computer and occasionally it 'breaks' (stops using the correct font, theme, icons, colors, etc and just basically goes retarded). rebooting the server always fixes it, so there must be something i can reset aside from rebooting the machine (which takes forever). ideas?
[08:36] <anacron> bigmouth000, i can watch all my videos from ntfs partition with no problems
[08:36] <bigmouth000> i installed only vlc through synaptic
[08:36] <Tortel> it says couldent find package oidentd
[08:36] <floppyears> pcharky: what do you mean by very bad ?
[08:36] <floppyears> nalioth_wrkn: ssh key
[08:36] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: you might want to get vlc-alsa also, and while u are there...get vlc-esd too :)
[08:36] <Xinex> I can't get samba to start, can anyone help me?
[08:36] <pcharky> floppyears: the fact that i don't know why ;)
[08:36] <lenny_> how do I permanently add a directory to my path?
[08:36] <nalioth_wrkn> floppyears: rsa
[08:37] <bigmouth000> looking that up now
[08:37] <pcharky> lenny_: sudo gedit /etc/profile
[08:37] <lenny_> cool
[08:37] <lenny_> thanx
[08:37] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-alsa
[08:37] <monkey89> has anyone gotten freenx to work in breezy?
[08:37] <floppyears> pcharky: thanks though
[08:37] <floppyears> nalioth_wrkn: thanks
[08:37] <bigmouth000> robotgeek, thanks .. got that
[08:38] <bytefoo> should i be worried that chmod is not found when booting up?
[08:38] <bigmouth000> aah .. problem solved, thanks robotgeek
[08:38] <pcharky> bytefoo: what exactly to you mean by "booting up"
[08:38] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: it's a good idea to use aptitude, it get's all relevent packages automagically
[08:38] <bytefoo> well when i load the kernel, after group
[08:38] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: great!
[08:39] <bytefoo> its like /init : line 89 : chmod : not found
[08:39] <bytefoo> or something like that
[08:39] <Xinex> I can't get samba to start, can anyone help me?
[08:39] <bytefoo> group = grub
[08:39] <pcharky> bytefoo: I guess that's quite bad :(
[08:39] <bytefoo> :-/
[08:40] <pcharky> bytefoo: is it there when the system is fully booted?
[08:40] <bytefoo> im about to check :o
[08:40] <bytefoo> yah
[08:40] <bytefoo> it's wierd
[08:40] <bytefoo> i guess i shouldn't worry :|
[08:41] <lenny_> I'm getting some wierd xml error all the time and its starting to freak me out.  I am getting the same thing from different sites
[08:41] <lenny_> I think every time I send form data
[08:42] <Tortel> anyone know any other ident servers besides oident and xident?
[08:43] <crimsun> apt-cache search identd
[08:44] <Determinist> any idea if amule creates the same type of .part files and .met files the windows official emule client does?
[08:44] <Tm_T> um, how usable breezy is atm?
[08:44] <crimsun> Tm_T, quite.
[08:44] <Xinex> How do I start samba?
[08:44] <crimsun> Xinex, sudo invoke-rc.d samba start
[08:44] <Tm_T> crimsun: ok, so I'll test it some day soon then :)
[08:45] <lenny_> XML Parsing Error: syntax error
[08:45] <lenny_> Location: chrome://global/content.commonDialog.xul
[08:45] <lenny_> Line Number 1, Column 1:
[08:45] <lenny_> ing);
[08:45] <Determinist> Tortel, you trying to get on dalnet?
[08:45] <Xinex> crimsun, didn't work
[08:46] <Xinex> starting samba daemons.. [fail] 
[08:46] <ncp> i have just setup postfix on a ubuntu an it works fine, but if use nmap port 25 i closed, why is that? all other ports is open...
[08:46] <crimsun> Xinex, pgrep smbd
[08:46] <ncp> from another client, lan and wan
[08:46] <ncp> an there is no firewall blocking
[08:47] <Xinex> crimsun, it didn't return anything
[08:47] <crimsun> Xinex, is samba installed?
[08:47] <Xinex> yes
[08:47] <Tortel> Determinist Tortel, you trying to get on dalnet? <-No, Quakenet
[08:47] <Tortel> i can connect, but it takes 30-40 tries
[08:48] <ReleaseX> apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 returns couln't find package, what's the problem?
[08:48] <Goshawk> where is glade-- located?
[08:48] <pcharky> Xinex: Look for samba errors with: tail -n 20 /var/log/syslog
[08:48] <confrey> hi everybody
[08:48] <emile> ReleaseX: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:48] <Goshawk> in which package?
[08:48] <Determinist> Tortel, i know how that's like.
[08:48] <confrey> how can I read the command of a menu item in gnome?
[08:48] <Determinist> Tortel, try www.dal.net , they have links to good ident servers there you can use
[08:48] <Tortel> And i *should* have installed a ident server, but it doesnt want to ork
[08:49] <Tortel> ok
[08:49] <pcharky> Goshawk: glade-2
[08:49] <Xinex> pcharky, what am I looking for?
[08:49] <Goshawk> pcharky, are you sure?
[08:49] <Goshawk> i installed it an i have an error
[08:49] <pcharky> Goshawk: apt-cache show glade-2
[08:49] <pcharky> Xinex: can you post the output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:50] <mz2> where could i adjust the time delay for sudo? so that i shouldn't have to write the password all the time
[08:50] <Xinex> yeah pcharky, one sec
[08:52] <Xinex> pcharky, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1639
[08:53] <vict0r> does anyone know where the backport servers are now?
[08:54] <vict0r> or have they simply ceased to be?
[08:54] <Goshawk> pcharky, same error
[08:54] <Goshawk> pcharky, glade-- not found
[08:54] <titaniululz> can anyone recommend a good editor? DON'T SAY VI, I HATE IT >:(
[08:54] <vict0r> vim then
[08:54] <Goshawk> titaniululz, nano
[08:54] <xhaker> vict0r, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[08:54] <titaniululz> vict0r, argh i hate you
[08:54] <pcharky> Xinex: hmm, nothing in there. anything in /var/log/samba/smbd.log?
[08:54] <titaniululz> Goshawk, nano is alright but is there something more 'complete' ie for programming in?
[08:54] <pcharky> Goshawk: it's in universe
[08:54] <xhaker> titaniululz, GUI or Console?
[08:54] <pcharky> !repositories
[08:54] <ubotu> well, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, use and ide instead
[08:55] <titaniululz> xhaker: preferably console but if you know of some nice gui ones i'd take those as well :)
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, or the gnome edit tool
[08:55] <titaniululz> gedit = the gnome edit tool?
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, yep
[08:55] <illsci> hey where does ubuntu read and write its iptables rules too ?
[08:55] <titaniululz> yeah i was using it earlier, it's pretty nice
[08:55] <xhaker> gedit is pretty good. scite is another one.. GUI
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, if you wanna program
[08:55] <Xinex> pcharky, it isn't there
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, use a ide instead
[08:55] <xhaker> console.. there is not much to choose from.. nano or vi
[08:55] <titaniululz> any other general purpose editors and/or ide's you would recommend? i'm used to eclipse and MS VS.net on windows
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, like anjuta for c7c++
[08:56] <titaniululz> installing scite now to try it out
[08:56] <xhaker> titaniululz, you can use eclipse on ubuntu, and install the cdt plugin to code c++
[08:56] <pcharky> Xinex: are you sure you've samba installed? check: dpkg -l samba
[08:57] <xhaker> what languages do you usually code?
[08:57] <titaniululz> xhaker, this machine is a p3 450 with 256mb of ram. i'd rather not use eclipse :)
[08:57] <xhaker> hehe
[08:57] <titaniululz> java, c, c++. learning ruby and python right now
[08:57] <ReleaseX> emile: any idea when hoary-extras is going to be working again?
[08:57] <xhaker> i need a good python IDE/Editor
[08:57] <xhaker> i'm using gedit now
[08:57] <xhaker> i heard Eric is cool
[08:58] <Tortel> heh
[08:58] <Tortel> my computer is a 3.27ghz P4 w/1gig o ram
[08:58] <davro> titaniululz: for python try boa-constructor
[08:58] <emile> ReleaseX: no i haven't i just had the same problem two days ago and i build a java package using that wiki
[08:58] <emile> ReleaseX: now azureus is running ;-)
[08:58] <xhaker> davro, boa constructor has debugging capabilities?
[08:59] <Xinex> pcharky, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1640
[08:59] <titaniululz> scite seems fairly nice, much faster than gedit
[08:59] <Goshawk> pcharky, i know that glade-2 is in the universe, i've it installed and there is not any glade-- executable
[09:00] <tahorg> Goshawk: gazpacho is better
[09:00] <titaniululz> davro, how heavy is it?
[09:00] <xhaker> titaniululz, i cant use scite now, it's kinda broken in breezy
[09:00] <Goshawk> tahorg, ok i've it, and i don't find how to build the source
[09:00] <pcharky> Goshawk: type glade, then hit the <tab> key numerous times ;)
[09:00] <pcharky> Goshawk: it's there if you installed glade-2
[09:00] <unk^lap> what do i type to delete a mount, i only got a empty folder... ?
[09:01] <tahorg> Goshawk: build the source ?
[09:01] <titaniululz> xhaker, :(
[09:01] <titaniululz> i'm going to install boa i guess, see how it is
[09:02] <davro> personally have only used boa-constructor a few time's under ubuntu, debbugging it there, runs nice on my 1.4gig laptop
[09:02] <Goshawk> tahorg, yep build the source of the gui that i've done
[09:02] <xhaker> titaniululz, tell me when you get there :P
[09:02] <pcharky> Xinex: sorry, it's  /var/log/samba/log.smbd
[09:02] <titaniululz> also know of any good ruby ides i can use in ubuntu?
[09:02] <Tortel> ok, i installed oidentd using the ./configure, make, make install commands, is that all i should do?
[09:02] <fraggsta> I have a problem with my shiny new mp3 player which should connect via USB..
[09:02] <tahorg> Goshawk: gazpacho gives you a .glade file, wich is a description of you interface in xml
[09:02] <Goshawk> pcharky, i'm developing on amd64 and installing glade-2 there is only the glade-2 executable
[09:02] <fraggsta> Instead of working, get get:
[09:02] <tahorg> Goshawk: you have to import it with libglade
[09:02] <fraggsta> usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[09:02] <fraggsta> usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:02] <titaniululz> holy moley boa needs a lot of stuff. "After unpacking 25.5MB of additional disk space will be used." :O
[09:03] <Goshawk> tahorg, yep, my problem is that i've not the glade-- executable to build the source
[09:03] <pcharky> Goshawk: that's the executable for glade2 then..
[09:03] <davro> titaniululz: have been learning ruby myself, i also lust to find an ide for ruby.
[09:03] <Xinex> pcharky, there's a bunch of errors there
[09:03] <tahorg> Goshawk: it's a really bad idea to "build the source" using glade
[09:03] <pcharky> Goshawk: if you need 1, install the "glade" package.
[09:03] <pcharky> Xinex: post?
[09:04] <fraggsta> so can't I just force a device descriptor or..something?
[09:04] <Goshawk> tahorg, so how should i build the sources of my gui?
[09:04] <tahorg> Goshawk: you don't need this
[09:04] <Goshawk> tahooie, pcharky : glade-2 wants glade-- to build my sources...
[09:04] <Xinex> pcharky, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1641
[09:04] <tahorg> Goshawk: you want to build your app in C ?
[09:04] <Goshawk> tahorg, c++
[09:05] <tahorg> Goshawk: well, find a tutorial for libglade in c++
[09:05] <tahorg> you don't want glade-- generating the callback for you
[09:06] <pcharky> Xinex: The logfile sais you have a section without any parameters in it.
[09:06] <Xinex> ok...
[09:06] <tahorg> Goshawk:
[09:06] <tahorg> oops
[09:07] <Xinex> so what should I do pcharky?
[09:07] <pcharky> Xinex: Check out which section is empty, and either fill it, or remove it: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:08] <vict0r> ok got them working.... thanks
[09:08] <ncp> i have just setup postfix on ubuntu, everything works fine, but port 25 isn't it open, when postfix i running? no firewall is blocking, if i nmap its just closed because i have port 25 open in my firewall, any ideas?
[09:09] <titanium> this supposedly does python/ruby -- www.widestudio.org
[09:09] <pcharky> Xinex: the samba configuration is like windows' .ini files. sections are specified by [] 
[09:09] <xhaker> titanium, that one is great.. but is not free
[09:09] <Xinex> ok pcharky, but it's weird, # is only for a comment on a single line, right?
[09:09] <titanium> xhaker, it looks free, the source is available
[09:10] <Newguy> how do i access Realplayer? Using sudo apt-get install Realplayer I am told that I already have the newest version
[09:10] <rob_p> ncp:  Probably because Postfix on Ubuntu is setup by default to only listen on local loopback (127.0.0.1).
[09:10] <pcharky> Xinex: I believe so
[09:10] <Newguy> however, I can't find it in Gnome
[09:11] <Belutz> is there a good equalizer soft for gnome?
[09:11] <ncp> rob_p: okay :\
[09:12] <Newguy> also, how do i execute a .bin file in ubuntu
[09:12] <landotter> Newguy: run "realplay"
[09:12] <anacron> i downloaded some font's where should i put them to make them work?, or does it matter?
[09:12] <nalioth> Newguy: there is a wiki article on realplayer
[09:12] <landotter> put fonts in a directory named .fonts in your home directory.
[09:12] <nalioth> Newguy: wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:12] <anacron> thanks
[09:12] <Newguy> thanks
[09:13] <Xinex> yes!!! thanks pcharky
[09:13] <landotter> Realplayer10 doesn't like esd in Gnome, so you'll have to do a "killall esd" before running "realplay"
[09:13] <Xinex> It was an messed up shared folder
[09:13] <rob_p> ncp:  Did you need it to listen on other interfaces?  If so, have a look at the config file (/etc/postfix/main.cf) and modify it appropriately.
[09:13] <titanium> how do you add things to the gnome menu?
[09:13] <pcharky> landotter: unless Newguy's got a sb card.
[09:14] <nalioth> titanium: smeg menu editor
[09:14] <nalioth> titanium: check your priv msgs
[09:15] <titanium> thanks
[09:16] <ioboss> hii
[09:16] <ioboss> where i found cedega?
[09:16] <ncp> rob_p: no just want i to accept incomming connections to it, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-June/091017.html there it says i just have to change 2 lines to the one below, but is correkt, smtp inet n - - - - smtpd
[09:17] <pcharky> ioboss: http://www.transgaming.com
[09:17] <linuxdave> I booted up for the first time a few minutes ago. The first thing I wanted to do was to configure the network. Clicking "Configure", I am aksed for the root password. My regular user pass doesn't work, and pressing enter doesn't work. I know root is disabled by default, do I really have to enable it to use the GUI config stuff?
[09:17] <nalioth> linuxdave: check your PMs
[09:17] <ReleaseX> anyone know when hoary-extras is going to be working again?
[09:19] <Xen> i was hoping someone could help me get my prism2 based usb wireless card working? ive tried everything i could see on the forum with wlanctl-ng etc, the best i can do is make the led blink
[09:19] <theine> Hi, is there a TeX channel on freenode?
[09:21] <GoClick> I've got an isssue, I installed samba, set the security to user and I can see the server on the windows machine but when I click on it it asks me for my username and password which are the same on the Windows and the Ubuntu machine but it doesn't accept it
[09:21] <adjacent_> theine: #LaTex?
[09:21] <lJlolel> grub doesn't load my window drive, how do  i replace grub with lilo (lilo worked)
[09:22] <landotter> pcharky, how does a sb card deal with esd/RP differently? :S
[09:23] <theine> adjacent, thanks, me idiot tried #tex and #tetex...
[09:23] <ioboss> where i found cedega for 64 bit???
[09:23] <ioboss> it exist?
[09:23] <nalioth> ioboss: you will look for 64bit cedega for a long time
[09:24] <ioboss> there isn't????
[09:24] <ioboss> :
[09:24] <bluefoxicy> nope
[09:24] <bluefoxicy> 64 bit wine doesn't work.
[09:24] <ioboss> nope?
[09:24] <ioboss> O_O
[09:24] <ioboss> noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:24] <carthik>  At http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver : It says Insert the following line into the new file
[09:24] <Dekkard> is anyone here running e17?
[09:24] <ioboss> why.. :
[09:24] <carthik> system_username = "network username"
[09:24] <bluefoxicy> if they made wine or its derivatives 64 bit, it wouldn't run 32 bit windows apps.
[09:24] <carthik> so should I be typing exactly that text, or something like < carthik = "network username" > or < carthik = "carthik" > ?
[09:25] <nalioth> carthik: be careful what you get from ubuntuguide
[09:25] <GoClick> Does anyone know why DNS would be really slow on the Linux machines (both Ubuntu and Fedora) in the same office as Windows machines for which DNS is fast?
[09:26] <carthik> nalioth, okay so what do I follow or do then?
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> GoClick:  no idea.  Install bind9 though to speed it up?
[09:26] <robotgeek> carthik: hi
[09:26] <theine> Sorry for asking in here, but is there a way to let latex write its dvi output to stdout?
[09:26] <nerdy2> GoClick: is it really the dns  (host  <any hostname> is slow?)
[09:27] <robotgeek> theine: you mean to log file?
[09:27] <ioboss> sorry but now i can install cedega 32 bit if my ubuntu is 64
[09:27] <GoClick> nerdy2, Yeah it's the lookups that are slow
[09:27] <theine> robotgeek, well, actually i'd like to pipe the dvi file to dvips (or rather dvipng)
[09:28] <nalioth> carthik: if you come to ubuntu from another distro, take the guide for what it is, if you are new to linux, seek other sources (like wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation)
[09:28] <ncp> i'm not sure how to change the postfix master.cf so postfix allows connections on port 25, anyone know a guide ect. ?
[09:29] <nerdy2> GoClick: and the lookups are fast (with nslookup or whatever) on the windows machines?   what sort of dns server is running?
[09:29] <ReleaseX> anyone know when hoary-extras is going to be working again?
[09:30] <vict0r> does anyone have the a site where i can get a deb java package?
[09:30] <robotgeek> theine: okay, explain it to be...u get the dvi file after u run the latex command, what do u want to do after that?
[09:31] <nalioths_dog> vict0r: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[09:31] <GoClick> nerdy2, their servers from our provider and on windows lookups with nslookup are fast and on linux they are not
[09:31] <GoClick> I just got this for some reason when running gedit from my root terminal
[09:31] <GoClick> (gedit:8830): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:31] <GoClick> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:31] <theine> robotgeek, the point is that i don't want to get the dvi file but pipe it directly to dvips
[09:32] <nerdy2> GoClick: that's because of how X authentication works, if you really want to run an X program as a different user, copy over your .Xauthority file say
[09:32] <robotgeek> theine: then just pipe it to that file latex <file> | dvipng ?
[09:32] <vict0r> yah right...
[09:32] <nerdy2> GoClick: and of course be wary that many gui programs are not written with running as root in mind
[09:33] <nalioth> vict0r: install "fakeroot" and then follow the instructions the dog sent ya
[09:33] <Newguy> Ok, yet another question... I have installed RealPlayer but still have no .mpg support... how do I go about getting support for mpg, avi, and wmv?
[09:33] <nalioth> GoClick: nerdy2 has got that right, some guis will tear up your homedir when they're run as root
[09:34] <robotgeek> theine: nope, that doesn't work..gimme a minute
[09:34] <theine> robotgeek, okidoki
[09:34] <lJlolel> can i just apt-get install lilo and that will replace grub?
[09:34] <robotgeek> theine: but why do u want to do that?
[09:35] <nerdy2> GoClick: hmm can't think of a reason offhand the lookups would be slow...  is everything alright at the network level (are lookups the only slow thing, is there packet loss, is there a firewall somewhere and if so is it set up correctly?)
[09:36] <theine> robotgeek, it would simply be neater...
[09:36] <nerdy2> GoClick: and of course it's always possible that the windows lookups are fast because they are caching them   (have you tried to defeat this by comparing the times of nslookup/host  with names you haven't looked up recently?)
[09:36] <DekaPink> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513&page=2&pp=10&highlight=qemu <- I'm trying to do this, but it keeps doing this when I try to checkinstall: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1643
[09:36] <paulproteus> lJlolel: You should apt-get remove grub first.
[09:36] <paulproteus> lJlolel: But be afraid of mucking too much with the boot process.
[09:36] <theine> robotgeek, but if there's no trivial way of doing that I could also live with creating a temporary dvi file...
[09:38] <nalioth> DekaPink: you have 2 options: dont install it, or install using "make install"
[09:38] <nalioth> DekaPink: although i'm sure you can --force install with dpkg, i've just never had any luck with that
[09:38] <GoClick> nerdy2,  yes even on hostnames that are never looked up before :(
[09:38] <nitin> guys, what do you think is the recommended permissions level (chmod xxx) for files that a storage system creates - > admins and php should be able to read,modify,delete but others shouldnt
[09:39] <DekaPink> nalioth: Thanks. :)
[09:39] <GoClick> Does anyone know why Samba wouldn't authenticate in (security=user mode) when the username and password are exactly the same?
[09:39] <GoClick> It didn't seem to log anything to the log file for that ip address either, no failed atempt or anything
[09:39] <robotgeek> theine: i dunno, what i tht should work doesn't :(
[09:40] <GoClick> also if someone could post their sources.list file to a pastebin with the extras universe I'd appreciate it because I think mine got buggered
[09:40] <robotgeek> theine: but, why can't you just run all those commands in a script
[09:41] <lJlolel> paulproteus, yea, i am a bit afraid, any major tips?
[09:41] <athlon> !amarok
[09:41] <ubotu> [amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[09:41] <nerdy2> GoClick: no idea about the lookups then,  but you can run your own nameserver (or if you want to use theirs,  run your own as a caching proxy)
[09:42] <nerdy2> GoClick: and that's probably a reasonable thing to do if their setup is buggered
[09:42] <GoClick> That's just sad
[09:42] <GoClick> Oh well
[09:42] <Determinist> i'll never understand why ubuntu installs chinese/korean/japanese/indic/punjabi or whatever fonts by default. cant be all that hard putting some extra screen that asks what bloody fonts you want installed other than the default english ones.
[09:42] <athlon> any of you know if amarok 1.3 is going to be backported to hoary soon ?
[09:42] <GoClick> nerdy2, do you know why samba would be being weird?
[09:42] <jaramillo> hello there
[09:42] <theine> robotgeek, i'm already doing that of course
[09:42] <robotgeek> theine: :)
[09:42] <crimsun> Determinist, we're open to suggestions for Breezy+1
[09:43] <paulproteus> lJlolel: Well, why stop using GRUB?
[09:43] <paulproteus> It's fine, isn't it?
[09:43] <chris_unfalterin> is anyone familiar with the averatec 5400?
[09:43] <Determinist> crimsun, good, where can i drop off comments? i'll be more than happy to try and assist in implementing these changes, cept i suppose it'll take me a while to get going
[09:44] <crimsun> Determinist, -devel mailing list, bugzilla, etc.
[09:44] <Hikaru79> Wheee, I'm on the Breezy LiveCD :)
[09:44] <lJlolel> paulproteus, grub wasnt loading my XP drive (lilo did ona  previous ubuntu install)
[09:44] <unk^lap> What do i type to remove folders ?
[09:44] <Determinist> crimsun, thanks
[09:44] <nerdy2> GoClick: i don't,  my experience with samba (when trying to deal with windows computers) is to mess around with it, and it'll randomly get better/worse  (maybe reboot the windows comp. if you feel like it)     [it works fine with other samba things, and fwiw the same advice goes for trying to get windows computers to play nice with each other :)] 
[09:44] <paulproteus> lJlolel: Well, you could try configuring grub. :)
[09:44] <jaramillo> how do i install gl headers ? ;o
[09:44] <jaramillo> whats the name of the package
[09:44] <chris_unfalterin> I'm having trouble getting my Averatec 5400 laptop to run the Ubuntu install CD.
[09:45] <chris_unfalterin> Is this the wrong place to ask?
[09:45] <lJlolel> paulproteus, it had windows xp as a drive, but when i select it , it says drive type unknown or something
[09:45] <gigaclon> no
[09:45] <nerdy2> [actually even better advice for getting windows computers to play nice with each other is to install a samba machine on the same lan and mess around with the parameters so that they defer to it for everything] 
[09:45] <GoClick> nerdy2, I did reboot both machines, it's been doing this for days :(
[09:45] <lJlolel> paulproteus, shit, install-mbr failed: system may not be bootable...
[09:45] <chris_unfalterin> anyone?
[09:45] <janne__> Help needed...Can u tell me where i get libbluecurve.so
[09:46] <nerdy2> GoClick: hmm, smbclient has a debuglevel parameter
[09:46] <paulproteus> chris_unfalterin: Be more specific about your problem.
[09:46] <lJlolel> paulproteus, okay, fixed, nowi'm restarting, if it doesn't boot i can always boot from disk right?
[09:46] <nerdy2> GoClick: so try it with -d 5 or -d 10 ...
[09:46] <janne__> synaptic: check! Repositors: some missing?
[09:46] <paulproteus> lJlolel: Yeah, e.g. the Live CD.
[09:46] <GoClick> nerdy2,  what would I type in?
[09:46] <lJlolel> paulproteus, thanks, seeya
[09:47] <crimsun> janne__, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libbluecurve.so&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386
[09:47] <nerdy2> GoClick: sorry 5 is too high :),   try "smbclient -d 3  [service] "
[09:47] <GoClick> What do you mean by [service]  ?
[09:47] <chris_unfalterin> paulproteus:  I had XP installed on my Averatec 5400 laptop.  I removed the hard drive, put it in an external adapter, and formatted it completely with another laptop running Ubuntu.  Now the 5400 won't boot from either the Ubuntu install CD, or an XP install CD.
[09:47] <poningru> guys question
[09:47] <nerdy2> where service is something like \\computer\share      (put quotes around it to escape \ for the shell)
[09:48] <poningru> is firefox 1.5 going to make it into hoary?
[09:48] <nerdy2> sorry, where [service]  is that ...
[09:48] <poningru> cause its going to be released in 2.0
[09:48] <poningru> err september
[09:48] <chris_unfalterin> (of course, I reinserted the HDD into the 5400 first)
[09:48] <dennis_> Is there a way to play .wmv files in ubuntu?
[09:48] <nerdy2> (smbclient -d 3 "\\computer\share")
[09:48] <dennis_> Totem plays the sound just not the video
[09:48] <nerdy2> dennis_: try totem-xine
[09:48] <poningru> dennis_: package: totem-xine
[09:48] <dennis_> k
[09:49] <janne__> ok...i found it....
[09:49] <Doonz> whats the command to link a folder to another folder?
[09:49] <janne__> Thanks!
[09:49] <nerdy2> Doonz: ln
[09:49] <spola> Doonz, make a soft link, ln -s
[09:49] <Doonz> ln dir dir
[09:49] <Hikaru79> I'm on the breezy livecd and it seems to be missing the Nautilus "Open Terminal Here" right-click menu entry ... this WILL be in the actual Breezy install, right? Since I found it uber-useful!!
[09:49] <chris_unfalterin> Does anyone have any ideas?
[09:49] <Doonz> and how do i make that link permenant
[09:49] <nerdy2> Doonz: ln -s dir dir
[09:50] <spola> chris_unfalterin, what does the laptop say? just blank screen? any errors at all?
[09:50] <GoClick> nerdy2, what do I put for [service]  the server is ninja the workgroup is saleient
[09:50] <GoClick> I did \\ninja\ and didn't get anything
[09:50] <nerdy2> Doonz: that link will be permanent (it will persist until you delete the link)  --   (however if you delete the original directory that will break the link)
[09:51] <GoClick> noah@babyninja:/var/log$ smbclient -d 3 \\ninja\noah\
[09:51] <GoClick> >
[09:51] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: what file system did you format it as?
[09:51] <chris_unfalterin> OK, it is blank, except for a blinkin underscore at the top left.  The CD drive makes an odd sound (I know it works, though!) a bunch of times, then gives up, and it says at the top left, "Operating System not found"
[09:51] <chris_unfalterin> I left it completely unpartitioned
[09:51] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: thats because it doesnt have an operating system
[09:51] <nerdy2> GoClick: quote it,   "\\ninja\noah\"
[09:51] <chris_unfalterin> right...
[09:52] <dennis_> well
[09:52] <dennis_> the xine thing didn't work
[09:52] <dennis_> :/
[09:52] <poningru> you sure you did put an install cd in?
[09:52] <dennis_> It opens the file and then closes it
[09:52] <GoClick> nerdy2, I still get a >
[09:52] <Doonz> sweet thnx guys
[09:52] <chris_unfalterin> but the ubuntu/xp CDs should boot w/ or w/o OS
[09:52] <nerdy2> dennis_: it will,  you should also install w32codecs
[09:52] <dennis_> I already did
[09:52] <dennis_> ;?
[09:52] <nerdy2> oh ok
[09:52] <dennis_> A while ago
[09:52] <dennis_> I think xine fucked everything up :/
[09:52] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: you sure the cdrom is supposed to be checked for boot?
[09:52] <poningru> check the bios
[09:52] <poningru> make sure the cdrom is before the hd
[09:53] <GoClick> noah@babyninja:/var/log$ noahsmbclient -d 3 "\\ninja\noah\"
[09:53] <GoClick> >
[09:53] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: boot order: CD --> HDD --> external device
[09:53] <poningru> then it has to be either a bad cd or a bad cd drive
[09:53] <lJlolel> paulproteus, okay, grub was still there (even though i removed it) lilo wasnt, even thoughi wrote to mbr....
[09:53] <poningru> since you tried xp install cd and an ubuntu install cd
[09:53] <poningru> I would say that its a bad cd driver
[09:53] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: the CD drive is good, I'm absolutely positive.  And I have a stack of ten ubuntu cds...none work'
[09:54] <nerdy2> dennis_: hmm, totem-xine + w32codecs should work   [i've got that here]        [there is an alternative of messing with pitfdll + totem-gstreamer but that's not for mortals :)] 
[09:54] <paulproteus> lJlolel: Okay, good, I guess.
[09:54] <lJlolel> paulproteus, i'm just going to change BIOS boot order when i want to switch drives
[09:54] <dennis_> :/
[09:54] <dennis_> Well I have all the w32 codecs
[09:54] <dennis_> and just installed totem-xine
[09:54] <dennis_> And totem won't play it
[09:54] <paulproteus> dennis_: Did you quit and reopen totem?
[09:54] <dennis_> Yes
[09:54] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: try a bootable cd like the live cd
[09:54] <poningru> or knoppix
[09:54] <dennis_> Now all totem does is open and close when I try and view that file
[09:54] <poningru> or system rescue
[09:55] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: both the XP and Ubuntu CDs worked on the laptop when I had an XP partition
[09:55] <nerdy2> GoClick: sorry the quoting is doing bad things,  try smbclient -d 3  \\\\ninja\\noah
[09:55] <nerdy2> GoClick: or smbclient -d 3 "\\ninja\noah"
[09:55] <chris_unfalterin> Should I pull the HDD out again, add three partitions (ntfs, swap, ext3), and try again?
[09:55] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: it may be as simple as a tiny dirt particle on the head
[09:56] <GoClick> nerdy2, that first one gave me some output, give me some time to read it
[09:56] <poningru> try a presurised air can on the cd head
[09:56] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: oh...ok, I'll try that.  I have been working lying on a carpet...
[09:56] <frogtone25> does anyone know where i can get a brushed metal color scheme for kde at
[09:57] <poningru> make sure to be extremely careful
[09:57] <frogtone25> kdelook.org doesnt have any
[09:57] <poningru> cause those things on a laptop are extremel flimsy
[09:57] <GoClick> nerdy2, it would seem that it doesn't like my username and password combo however it's the combo I use to logon to this machine and the windows machine
[09:57] <nerdy2> GoClick: try it in uppercase
[09:57] <chris_unfalterin> poningru:oh?
[09:58] <GoClick> nerdy2,  which part? my username and password are both all lowercase (both machines)
[09:58] <poningru> yeah the cd drive if its a pull out then is flimsy
[09:58] <nalioth> frogtone25: kde-art.com, i believe
[09:58] <poningru> atleast mine is, compaq 2140
[09:58] <poningru> and I treat it like a baby
[09:58] <leonel> I'm sad !    Mono will be on  Ubuntu Breezy
[09:58] <nerdy2> GoClick: try uppercasing the password, sorry
[09:59] <lJlolel> is it bad to change the BIOS settings many times?
[09:59] <GoClick> nerdy2,  fails
[09:59] <nerdy2> GoClick: ok, that shouldn't have had any effect anyways
[09:59] <poningru> leonel: and thats bad because?
[09:59] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: ok i dusted the laser head and that's not it
[09:59] <leonel> poningru, it's mono  and mono it's a big mistake on free software
[09:59] <GoClick> Well this is infuriating
[10:00] <GoClick> It's not like I don't have access to my own home dir either :P
[10:00] <frogtone25> there is no kde-art.com
[10:00] <GoClick> nerdy2, would you mind posting your sources.list file to the pastebin for me?
[10:00] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: you sure the cds are not dirty or anything?
[10:00] <nalioth> frogtone25: kde-look.com (i dont run kde)
[10:00] <chris_unfalterin> poningru:  Will any install CD, XP/Ubuntu/whatever, not work if the HDD is completely formatted (ie no partitions)?
[10:01] <spola> chris_unfalterin, nah that won't have any effect
[10:01] <frogtone25> kdelook.com doesnt have a brushed metal color scheme
[10:01] <poningru> it should not matter
[10:01] <poningru> curses I have a class right now
[10:01] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: sorry dude I am out of ideas
[10:01] <poningru> just for fun try system rescue cd
[10:01] <poningru> google it
[10:01] <nerdy2> GoClick: i don't really have anything interesting,  the only interesting line is "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe
[10:01] <nerdy2> "      (and i have a sister deb-src line for that, and the apt repo for w32codecs)
[10:01] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: Because when I had an XP partition, before I started all of this dualboot business, the bott disks worked fine
[10:01] <GoClick> nerdy2, no it's just my file is mangled
[10:02] <selinium> Hi,  Seveas. You were going to help with my first compile last night. Any chance you could have a look know?
[10:02] <chris_unfalterin> OK, thanks anyhow.  Can anyone else help?
[10:02] <GoClick> nerdy2, and for some reason I can't get extras either which is bad because I need Java :P
[10:02] <selinium> now*
[10:02] <spola> chris_unfalterin, so if i understand then stuff stopped working after you opened it to take out the hd?
[10:03] <selinium> HI all, anyone here got bluetooth working?
[10:03] <spola> maybe you fubar'd it
[10:04] <LokeDK> Hi. How do I remove kde and its packages? i just installed kde .. and not kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <GoClick> Could SOMEBODY who has the horay-extras post their /etc/apt/sources.list file to the pasebin at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ so I can fix mine?
[10:04] <nerdy2> GoClick: well i don't have the extras in mine
[10:04] <Hikaru79> LokeDK, just install kubuntu-desktop over it. It will skip kde because it's already installed. No worries :)
[10:04] <chris_unfalterin> I took out the HD, made it external with a USB adapter, and was able to read files, etc. on another Ubuntu laptop
[10:04] <nerdy2> GoClick: and i don't know how to use the pastebin :),  but my sources.list is at http://jgarrett.org/sources.list
[10:04] <GoClick> nerdy2, ok, think I should uninstall and reinstall samba?
[10:04] <selinium> !tell GoClick about repos
[10:05] <chris_unfalterin> then i formatted it while external, and replaced it within the 5400
[10:05] <nerdy2> GoClick: doubtful that will help
[10:05] <spola> lol, doesn't know how to use the pastebin but can publish the data on a http server
[10:05] <LokeDK> Hikaru79, but I want to get rid of it.. not get kubuntu-desktop.. because i prefer xfce
[10:05] <GoClick> selinium, yes very nice thank you I've read it, that doesn't fix the fact that someone mangled my file
[10:05] <selinium> GoClick: the official list can be found there
[10:05] <selinium> GoClick: Have you read the info?
[10:06] <selinium> GoClick: The http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 bit?
[10:06] <GoClick> Man I wish this DNS weren't so slow
[10:07] <GoClick> Thank you selinium
[10:07] <selinium> GoClick: np
[10:07] <_adam> Does kubuntu have issues with 64bit?
[10:07] <_adam> Cause I keep getting lockups
[10:07] <_adam> primarily when I'm online, everything freezes except for the mouse
[10:08] <GoClick> _adam,  I don't use it myself I'm an i386 GNOME man myself but I've heard a few people complain about lockups with KDE on 64 so it's a possability
[10:09] <nalioth> chris_unfalterin: sounds like you may have other hardware trouble
[10:09] <user01> what males ubuntu better then slack for eg?
[10:09] <jasoncohen> what's the difference between flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree. I have flashplugin-nonfree installed and flash works. don't both packages provide flash?
[10:10] <Ignignokt> hello, i am new to the whol linux scene, and i am wondering if it is possible to play .wmv , for i cannot seem to get any to work
[10:10] <GoClick> I added the horay-extras repo refreshed my list and searched for j2re and got no packages
[10:10] <nalioth> jasoncohen: what does "apt-cache showpkg" tell about each one?
[10:10] <selinium> jasoncohen: nonfree is from Macromedia and is not open source. Flashplayer is open source
[10:10] <twibbler> anybody help trying to get skype working and it is a problem with esd when changed as per ns on wiki I get this message when testing sound ...Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[10:11] <user01> to GoClick dnld all from www.sun.com
[10:11] <GoClick> user01, is it hard to install? I'm just getting into Linux, and I need my boss to be able to replicate the setup later
[10:11] <jasoncohen> selinium, then why are they bothin multiverse?
[10:11] <GoClick> user01, plus what worries me is that if it can't find it now doesn't that mean it's not searching the extras?
[10:12] <chris_unfalterin> ok, i'm going to externalize it again, hook it up to this ubuntu laptop i'm using, reformat, and re-internalize
[10:12] <jasoncohen> selinium, if flashplayer-mozilla is open source it should be in main or universe- not multiverse
[10:12] <chris_unfalterin> cheerio.  I'll probably be back,
[10:12] <durt> !java
[10:12] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:13] <GoClick> durt,  I've read it, I've added horay-extras and refreshed my lists and then I search for jre and sun- and get NO packages
[10:14] <jasoncohen> GoClick, search for j2re
[10:14] <jasoncohen> GoClick, sun-j2re1.5
[10:14] <selinium> GoClick look at http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/    or apply http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/ ./ to your sources.list
[10:14] <GoClick> jasoncohen, done, no packages
[10:14] <jasoncohen> GoClick, then you haven't added hoary-extras or you didn't reload
[10:14] <durt> GoClick: its not in extras anymore, but you can find it at seveas... something let me check
[10:14] <selinium> GoClick:  :)
[10:14] <jasoncohen> durt, it's still in extras
[10:15] <GoClick> jasoncohen, I have and I have would you like me to take a screenshot, :P
[10:15] <jasoncohen> sorry, not extras
[10:15] <jasoncohen> it's in backports
[10:15] <LasseL> i got my java from backports
[10:15] <GoClick> durt, then shouldn't someone update the wiki?
[10:15] <jasoncohen> GoClick, sorry, you need to install from backports
[10:16] <chris_unfalterin> Is anyone here an official Ubuntu developer (ie hired by Canonical)
[10:16] <GoClick> selinium, how do I add that reposatory, what's the line?
[10:16] <LasseL> *someone* is always you :)
[10:16] <LasseL> !backports
[10:16] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[10:16] <selinium> GoClick: Through Synaptic or through an editor?
[10:16] <GoClick> selinium, either or
[10:16] <jasoncohen> GoClick, once you add it , you probably want to disable backports
[10:16] <Ignignokt> where can i find the w32 codecs at?
[10:16] <Frafra> hi all
[10:17] <jasoncohen> or you won't get security updates for gaim and other packages
[10:17] <jasoncohen> Ignignokt, it's in hoary-extras
[10:17] <jasoncohen> !tell Ignignokt about multimedia repositories
[10:17] <selinium> GoClick: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:17] <jasoncohen> !tell Ignignokt about multimedia
[10:17] <chris_unfalterin> Again, Is anyone here an official Ubuntu developer (ie hired by Canonical)?  I must give my mad props.
[10:17] <Ignignokt> k ty, mad eprops
[10:17] <LasseL> jasoncohen, you what?
[10:17] <Ignignokt> im new to the whole linux scene.
[10:18] <Frafra> i need to download build-essential package and him dependency because i must install it on a pc that haven't a internet connection. what i should do?
[10:18] <chris_unfalterin> Ignignokt: you develop for Ubuntu?
[10:18] <GoClick> selinium, done
[10:18] <LasseL> jasoncohen, you don't get security updates if you have backports enabled??
[10:19] <rebug> can ubuntu read ufs2 disks?
[10:20] <hussam> if I uninstall firestarter + dpkg --purge firestarter, I should still be protected but Iptables firewall?
[10:20] <chris_unfalterin> I LOVE UBUNTU!!!
[10:20] <durt> heres where i got java: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:20] <jasoncohen> LasseL, you won't get security updates for backport packages
[10:21] <rebug> i'm considering installing ubuntu 5.04 over a freebsd 5 install, but need to know if my ufs2 formatted disks will be available
[10:21] <jasoncohen> LasseL, for example, if you install firefox and gaim from backports when a security update comes out for hoary, you won't get it
[10:21] <user01> WHAT MAKES UBUNTU SO GOOD I SAY SLACK BETTER!
[10:21] <nightswim> it's the users that use a lot of caps that makes slack crap
[10:21] <jasoncohen> LasseL, that's because backports has newer packages from breezy (which you generall don't need). I only use backports if there's a package that's not available in hoary like smeg
[10:21] <nalioth> hussam: without iptables, your box will not work. so firestarter is just a frontend to manipulate them
[10:21] <spola> user01, then use slack, this ain't the inquisition y'know
[10:21] <user01> Ubuntu sucks distro really....confesss it.
[10:22] <chris_unfalterin> does anyone know why gparted might hang while I mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1/ ?
[10:22] <user01> because ubuntu is a mess
[10:22] <rebug> nobody expects choice in their linux distributions!
[10:22] <jasoncohen> LasseL, for example backports has gaim 1.40 from breezy and hoary has 1.1.4 but hoary's 1.14 has all the security patches through gaim 1.5. backport's 1.4 is vulnerable to several DoS's
[10:22] <chris_unfalterin> rebug: ???
[10:23] <chris_unfalterin> I repeat: does anyone know why gparted might hang while I mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1/ ?
[10:23] <user01> yeah...ok folks I'm leaving your kindergarden
[10:23] <zer0`> it asks for username and pass when i try to get java jre from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:23] <melodie_> :quit
[10:23] <spola> you'll be missed </sarcasm>
[10:23] <LasseL> jasoncohen, what a mess
[10:23] <jasoncohen> so, blackdown java can be packaged by ubuntu but not the official java package?
[10:23] <jasoncohen> LasseL, well, my recommendation is just not to use backports unless you need it
[10:24] <crimsun> heh
[10:24] <jasoncohen> LasseL, there are very few packages that you would really need from backports. Once you have them, you can disable it
[10:24] <rebug> chris_unfalterin: amongst our weaponry are such elements as fear, surprise, etc...
[10:24] <LasseL> jasoncohen, I see, I just hate to have to think about it
[10:24] <Frafra> excuseme, if i want install build-essential, what packages i need?
[10:24] <crimsun> Frafra, just build-essential
[10:25] <andydavid> join #ubuntu-es
[10:25] <jasoncohen> LasseL, this won't really be an issue with breezy. Breezy will include smeg and several other packages currently missing from hoary obviating the need for backports
[10:25] <Frafra> crimsun: build-install want gcc ecc.. i must download all the packages that it want, because i must install they on a pc with no internet connection
[10:25] <andydavid> join #ubuntu-es
[10:25] <jasoncohen> LasseL, and remember, backports isn't enabled by default. You have to enable it yourself
[10:25] <andydavid> join # ubuntu-es
[10:25] <LasseL> jasoncohen, but not a proper version i java i bet
[10:25] <andydavid> join#ubuntu-es
[10:26] <jasoncohen> LasseL, breezy will include blackdown java 1.4 in multiverse
[10:26] <jasoncohen> which will work fine
[10:26] <jasoncohen> and you can always build java from java-package or use backports for java. there are many options
[10:26] <crimsun> Frafra, apt-cache depends build-essential
[10:26] <chris_unfalterin> How should i best partition my external hard drive with gparted?
[10:26] <jasoncohen> i installed java from backports and then disabled it
[10:26] <chris_unfalterin> My goal is to dual-boot XP and Ubuntu.
[10:27] <jasoncohen> if you think this is bad look at fedora. Ubuntu has over 16,000 packages- nearly everything you might want. There's very little need for backports
[10:27] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, have you succeeded in your goal?
[10:27] <LasseL> jasoncohen, i am a java developer so i just hate to think about people running with old and slow versions with possible incompatabilities :)
[10:27] <chris_unfalterin> which is that?
[10:28] <adriyel__> jasoncohen, not quite caught up with portage though <--- gentoo user
[10:28] <adriyel__> I still like Ubuntu's repository though :)
[10:28] <LasseL> adriyel__, i will catch up with gentoo before you are done compiling :p
[10:28] <zer0`> is this the line for installing java    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:28] <adriyel__> LasseL, dual core, already done compiling
[10:28] <chris_unfalterin> which goal, adriyel?
[10:28] <spola> chris_unfalterin, i'd take one part for xp, one for /home, one swap (twice yr ram) and a 20G for installing ubuntu on
[10:29] <rrm3> linux-header-2.5.10-5-386 contains a 'scripts' link that does not work!  I need that directory to compile madwifi.  Anyone been through this already?
[10:29] <adriyel__> LasseL, in all seriousness, if you have a 64bit AMD, the compile/installation times are NOT that bad
[10:29] <spola> home on a diffrent partition WILL save your ass sooner or later
[10:29] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, the goal of dual booting
[10:29] <chris_unfalterin> what is /home?
[10:29] <spola> it's like my documents, each user has a subdirectory in it
[10:29] <adriyel__> your home directory storing the files/documents of each user
[10:29] <adriyel__> such as, /home/adriyel
[10:29] <chris_unfalterin> ok, will ubuntu automaticall mount /home?
[10:29] <adriyel__> the home directory for root is /root
[10:29] <spola> it's the only place where files that don't belong to root should reside
[10:30] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, don't worry about it, everything is taken care of by Ubuntu if you don't screw with it
[10:30] <LasseL> adriyel__, I have been running gentoo for the last 2.5 years and I know the drill. I am sick of it
[10:30] <adriyel__> LasseL, This is why my main distro's are Slack + slapt-get and Ubuntu
[10:30] <chris_unfalterin> oh....i have been using /home
[10:30] <adriyel__> you DO know that portage provides precompiled binaries over the net right?
[10:31] <spola> chris_unfalterin, you can edit /etc/fstab when you're done and then it to auto mount
[10:31] <chris_unfalterin> on this laptop, but i d idn't kmnow it was its own directory
[10:31] <chris_unfalterin> *partition
[10:31] <LasseL> adriyel__, booting into gentoo was like going to work (and a boring version of that), booting into ubuntu made me scrap windows within a week :)
[10:31] <zer0`> is this the line for installing java    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:31] <chris_unfalterin> ok, so is this correct:
[10:32] <chris_unfalterin> XP - ntfs.  Ubuntu - ext3.  Swap (2x RAM) - linux-swap.
[10:32] <adriyel__> LasseL, after the installation Gentoo's not that bad, particularly if you have portage use precompiled binaries. The inherent problem here is that I am a speed-nut. So, when Yoper's new version comes out I will likely check that out
[10:32] <adriyel__> I use ubuntu 64
[10:32] <adriyel__> I use Slack10.1 and slamd64, depending on my mood
[10:33] <durt> slack is quite impressive
[10:33] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, I use reiserfs for my format, I find ext3 to be bleh.
[10:33] <adriyel__> durt, slack was my first love.
[10:33] <hondje> Mine was a girl
[10:33] <chris_unfalterin> what's the dif?\
[10:33] <adriyel__> slackware/gentoo combined taught me a LOT about Linux
[10:33] <LasseL> adriyel__, i never had gentoo work half as well as the default ubuntu install even though i spent countless hours tweaking it
[10:33] <spola> chris_unfalterin, if you leave space open on your hd you can always add a seperate /home later
[10:34] <spola> i think the nicest thing about reiserfs is that you can resize it
[10:34] <adriyel__> LasseL, I don't deny that. But I wish Slackware would come out with an official tweaked 64-bit version, the reason I use slamd64
[10:34] <spola> LasseL, same here, same here
[10:34] <chris_unfalterin> why is reiserfs preferable to ext3?  What is the difference?
[10:34] <adriyel__> reiserfs in my experience is more adaptable, stable, and faster
[10:34] <chris_unfalterin> ok...
[10:34] <adriyel__> there is no loss to using reiserfs, to my knowledge
[10:34] <spola> ext3 is also rock stable
[10:34] <Deter[ZZzzZZz] > nn guys, enjoy your weekends :D
[10:35] <GoClick> Seveas, would I be able to get a password from you so that I could download java?
[10:35] <adriyel__> I guess some people are just stuck on ext3
[10:35] <chris_unfalterin> ???
[10:35] <LasseL> chris_unfalterin, you can read and write ext3 from windows
[10:35] <adriyel__> wtf? @ lassel
[10:35] <adriyel__> you can?
[10:35] <chris_unfalterin> ext3/reiserfs ???
[10:35] <chris_unfalterin> really?
[10:35] <LasseL> chris_unfalterin, well I read that anyways .. let me google it
[10:35] <chris_unfalterin> that's sweet, esp. since i'm dual-booting
[10:35] <adriyel__> I'd suggest ReiserFS, personally. (don't use Reiser4, its still being dev'ed heavily)
[10:35] <Malin`> can anyone do "apt-cache search teamspeak" and tell me if there's a result?
[10:35] <spola> i dunno about writing, but i have a proggie to read from ext2/3
[10:35] <nerdy2> adriyel__: ext3 is based on ext2, which is readable/writable from windows
[10:35] <rox__> i need help guys, none of my xvids will play
[10:36] <adriyel__> LasseL why in the Lord's name would Windows support a Linux partition format?
[10:36] <nalioth> adriyel__: search ext2fs at sourceforge.net
[10:36] <rox__> it keeps sayig the file is empty but i know its not
[10:36] <adriyel__> nerdy2, ahhh. secondary piece of software and @ nalioth
[10:36] <LasseL> adriyel__, windows has pluggable filesystems too
[10:36] <adriyel__> nerdy2, ext3 is the same as ext2, it just has journaling
[10:36] <rox__> anyone, i dont have internet for very long, please help
[10:36] <nerdy2> adriyel__: nothing can be done with windows alone, everything's secondary
[10:36] <adriyel__> nerdy2, I know this. thank you
[10:37] <adriyel__> nerdy2, thats why I use Linux, except for games
[10:37] <chris_unfalterin> so.... ext3 can be read from xp
[10:37] <adriyel__> Linux meowbox 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic #1 Tue Apr 5 12:21:57 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:37] <nerdy2> adriyel__: tried battle for wesnoth? :)
[10:37] <chris_unfalterin> wo i should use it for dualboot
[10:37] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, only if you install 3rd party software, and I don't know how stable that is
[10:37] <nerv99> hello
[10:37] <chris_unfalterin> *so
[10:37] <adriyel__> nerdy2, I play games that require skill, sorry.
[10:37] <rox__> my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty
[10:37] <spola> i just decided to stop playiing games, except for Enemy territory
[10:37] <janne__> hi...!
[10:37] <rox__> i've used them before
[10:37] <rox__> my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty
[10:37] <adriyel__> <--- semi-pro/competitive gamer, I don't accept 40-50% performance from Linux
[10:37] <spola> ET > *
[10:38] <rox__> i've watched the xvid before on the same player
[10:38] <rox__> and now there's nothing
[10:38] <adriyel__> yes, I have doom3 installed, no it doesn't run how it should on my 6800GT
[10:38] <LasseL> nerdy2, i just tried BfW but i got my ass kicked at the FIRST map
[10:38] <LasseL> chris_unfalterin, http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html
[10:38] <janne__> I got some basic problem: How i uninstall/remove .run -files? (game etc...)
[10:38] <GoClick> I still can't get SAMBA to authenticate properly, I just did a fresh install of it from Synaptic and I tried to connect to it and it won't accept my username and password (which is the same on Windows and on Ubuntu)
[10:38] <rox__> need help, anyone, my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty... i wont have internet very long
[10:38] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, do you have ANY reason to be writing to your Linux partition from windows? it requires 3rd party software, which may or may not have bugs
[10:38] <rox__> i need help if anyone can offer it
[10:39] <rox__> quickly before my cable loses connection again
[10:39] <LasseL> adriyel__, FUD
[10:39] <adriyel__> rox__, don't repeat yourself, somehow I have the feeling the PEBKAC
[10:39] <chris_unfalterin> It would be nice to access Linux documents/files from XP and vice-versa
[10:39] <spola> i once talked to this guy he always EOF'd if someone said 'fuck'
[10:39] <adriyel__> in which case use Ext3 @ chris_unfalterin
[10:39] <spola> he had some kind of cyber sitter or something it was hilarious
[10:40] <black13> can build a new kernel 2.6 cause the creation of an initial ram disk initrd.img as a by product?
[10:40] <adriyel__> you'll still be able to access Windows from linux, if you use reiser, you just won't be able to do the reverse
[10:40] <jayparadise> chris_unfalterin, try crossover office
[10:40] <nalioth> adriyel__: 3d party is not the point. ext2fs runs on windows! that should say it all
[10:40] <chris_unfalterin> but that reqs 3rd-p software...
[10:40] <knowledge_> how can I rebuild dependancies?
[10:40] <janne__> How can uninstall .run file programs?
[10:40] <jayparadise> it supports certain propietary apps
[10:40] <mjr> janne__, basically by hand
[10:40] <rox__> adriyel__, if you're going to be helpful, please dont respond to me
[10:40] <adriyel__> nalioth, I have no purpose for gimping the speed of my Linux partiton just so windows can read it. Repeat: I only use Windows for games, all I have installed is Win32/ overclocking software, games, and DX9.0c
[10:40] <rox__> if you're not*
[10:41] <chris_unfalterin> ok, so i can go back and forth between XP and Ubuntu, w/o any mods...?
[10:41] <janne__> oh...folder and some?
[10:41] <adriyel__> rox__, watch the mouth, I was asking you not to repeat yourself, if noone has answered, try #ubuntu-devel, even though they'll prolly redirect you to here
[10:41] <adriyel__> additionally, setting an ultimatum/deadline OMG CABLE GOING OUT, won't make anyone respond faster
[10:41] <adriyel__> some people have already commented on your problem
[10:41] <cyphase> anyone know of a web based ssh system that i can install on my server?
[10:42] <rox__> watch my mouth how? did i curse? i just asked you not to talk to me if you can't be helpful, im putting you on ignore i dont need your attitude, thanks!
[10:42] <adriyel__> but you were too busy pecking away saying, XVID BROKEN CABLE GOING AWAY CRY CRY
[10:42] <adriyel__> to notice
[10:42] <selinium> cyphase: sshd?
[10:42] <adriyel__> watch your mouth as in sass.
[10:42] <adriyel__> not cursing.
[10:42] <spola> cyphase, web based ssh ??? what excactly do you want cause this makes little sense to me
[10:42] <LasseL> rox__, try some other players
[10:42] <rox__> you should do the same
[10:42] <adriyel__> right, anyways.
[10:42] <LasseL> rox__, totem, mplayer, gxine
[10:42] <rox__> thanks lassel, i tried mplayer totem xine
[10:42] <rox__> vlce
[10:42] <adriyel__> install gstreamer plugins
[10:42] <rox__> vlc
[10:42] <adriyel__> first.
[10:42] <rox__> already did sdriyel
[10:42] <rox__> first thing i did
[10:42] <adriyel__> then the problem is not the player
[10:42] <cyphase> spola, a web based client i can install on a server that will let me log onto ssh
[10:42] <rox__> when i first loaded ubuntu
[10:43] <nalioth> adriyel__: my point was: do you want a windows driven file system tool mucking about on your linux partition? (i dont)
[10:43] <rox__> but i've seen these episodes before but they wont open anymore
[10:43] <adriyel__> how were these xvids downloaded?
[10:43] <rox__> torrent
[10:43] <adriyel__> nalioth, that was exactly my point that I was trying to make
[10:43] <deprave> now now kids, i'll send you to bed without any dessert.
[10:43] <adriyel__> nalioth, nerdy2 tried to say that that point was invalid, however
[10:43] <adriyel__> rox__, you dumbass, the files ARE empty
[10:43] <twibbler> get error message can't connect to aRts soundserver anybody help for I thought I had installed the required package ..
[10:43] <rox__> they are not empty
[10:43] <adriyel__> bit torrent preallocates the space, making the file look full, when it might actually not have been downloaded
[10:44] <adriyel__> try again. check the binary
[10:44] <rox__> i've watched the episodes before
[10:44] <spola> cyphase, i think you'll want to google for a java applet
[10:44] <adriyel__> ok, and what if the connection failed and all it did was preallocate the space?
[10:44] <deprave> are you jonesing for some anime bukkake!?
[10:44] <adriyel__> then you have an empty file taking up space
[10:44] <adriyel__> gg.
[10:44] <rox__> i've seen the episodes before
[10:44] <deprave> rox__: that particular ep?
[10:44] <adriyel__> you've already said that rox__
[10:44] <rox__> yes
[10:44] <deprave> the same file?
[10:44] <rox__> yes deprave
[10:44] <rox__> the exact same one
[10:44] <adriyel__> and under what conditions did it function?
[10:44] <jayparadise> wins ps3 supposed to come out?
[10:44] <deprave> THEN IT'S A RERUN
[10:45] <rox__> i've tried about five of them
[10:45] <adriyel__> repeat/emulate/imitate those functions
[10:45] <chris_unfalterin> adriyel__: will it matter?  (using xp to read linuxfs)
[10:45] <LasseL> rox__, try this (again) http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[10:45] <deprave> rox__: what does it do?
[10:45] <cyphase> spola, i was looking for something besides a java applet..
[10:45] <cyphase> an AJAX client maybe..
[10:45] <rox__> let me go there lassel
[10:45] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, if you want the feature, install the package from sourceforge and use ext3. as nalioth said, I don't want to risk some windows program mucking up my fucking partition
[10:45] <rox__> when i open vlc in terminal
[10:45] <chris_unfalterin> ok.
[10:45] <rox__> it tells me that the file is empty
[10:46] <rox__> it tells me that twice then tells me it cannot access the directory
[10:46] <chris_unfalterin> now what about primary/extended?  which of my part'ns should be which?
[10:46] <spola> cyphase, hmm that would be pretty cool but i haven't heard of any of those ... i'd have a hard time believing some kid hasn't hacked it together on ruby on rails tho
[10:46] <deprave> try a different application
[10:46] <adriyel__> the fact of the matter, is that most of the programs/programmers written on sourceforge are amateurs and youngsters, not necessarily a bad thing in most cases, and not necessarily true either (gaim is on sourceforge, very well dev'ed), however, something as critical as my data isn't about to be managed by A. Windows, B. a 3rd party windows app, C. an app made by someone who didn't make windows
[10:47] <cyphase> spola, i would do it, but i don't have the time :(
[10:47] <spola> i'll do it if you pay me :p
[10:47] <cyphase> although it isn't all bad, seeing as i don't have time because of a cool project :)
[10:47] <rox__> deprave, i've tried vlc, mplayer, xine and totem
[10:48] <n1xt3r_> adriyel__: the best software in life is free :)
[10:48] <deprave> permissions ok etc? did you download it from torrent?
[10:48] <rox__> yep downloaded from torrent
[10:48] <rox__> after it was done
[10:48] <chris_unfalterin> now what about primary/extended?  which of my partitions should be which?
[10:48] <rox__> i double-checked episodes 3-5-6 to be sure they worked
[10:48] <rox__> and they did
[10:48] <rox__> and now, not working...
[10:48] <Frafra> what i must do for install ati proprietary driver?
[10:49] <crimsun> Frafra, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <Frafra> thx
[10:50] <_ubuntu504> hi
[10:50] <nalioth> chris_unfalterin: most intel boxen can only see 4 primary partitions
[10:50] <_ubuntu504> I have some questions
[10:50] <Prower> Hmm...something weird is going on, I'm getting messages from half of those people dropping in and out
[10:50] <_ubuntu504> has anyone used ubuntu with the NF7-s rv 2 motherboard?
[10:50] <spola> hmm, im under attack???
[10:51] <mustafu> heh, same here
[10:51] <chris_unfalterin> nalioth: ok, i just need 3 partns. (XP,swap,ubuntu)
[10:51] <nalioth> chris_unfalterin: so i'd suggest 1 primary, and one logical (with as many as 16 partitions inside it)
[10:51] <spola> FUCKERS ARE ATTACKING #UBUNTU THATS MAKIN IT PERSONAL
[10:51] <rebug> silliness
[10:51] <apokryphos> There were major Freenode innovations today with a primary server
[10:51] <mustafu> heh, this isn't EFNet, calm down
[10:51] <apokryphos> I doubt it's anything malicious
[10:51] <_ubuntu504> why are people pming me?
[10:51] <nalioth> Seveas: onjoins
[10:51] <chris_unfalterin> What is happening?
[10:52] <chris_unfalterin> What is happening?
[10:52] <_ubuntu504> I want to shwitch to ubuntu sooo bad...
[10:52] <nalioth> chris_unfalterin: some script kiddie is playing
[10:52] <_ubuntu504> so I want to knkow if anyone has had any luck with this hardware
[10:52] <Frafra> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/xorg-driver-fglrx <= i can't download it. 404 error
[10:52] <chris_unfalterin> doing what? (new to irc)
[10:52] <TTilus> looks like everybody else is getting empty private messages from random people
[10:52] <TTilus> ..too
[10:52] <Virtuall> what a stupidity
[10:53] <chris_unfalterin> ttilus: yah that is happening to me
[10:53] <Virtuall> clonebots ;( hate the idiots that do that
[10:53] <TTilus> Virtuall: mm...  metoo
[10:53] <_ubuntu504> ubuntu NF7-srv2 MB, SATA HD, ATI Radeon, AMD ATH XP 2800
[10:53] <_ubuntu504> any bad in there for ubuntu?
[10:53] <chris_unfalterin> OK this stinks majorly.
[10:54] <Hoxzer> Ubuntu: I have heard it might be hard to find drivers for ati
[10:54] <_ubuntu504> really?
[10:54] <_ubuntu504> ubuntu comes with them
[10:54] <TTilus> Hoxzer: how come?
[10:54] <Hoxzer> I don't know so well
[10:54] <Hoxzer> I just heard
[10:54] <TTilus> Hoxzer: it wasn't to me
[10:54] <_ubuntu504> other than that?
[10:54] <NoUse> !ati
[10:54] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:54] <_ubuntu504> do I need a specian kernel for a AMD processor?
[10:54] <jayparadise> anyuone getting a lot of random nicks messaging empty messages?
[10:54] <Virtuall> ...hey motherf*r, if you hear me, f*k you!
[10:54] <Virtuall> jayparadise, everybody
[10:54] <paulproteus> jayparadise: Yes.
[10:55] <TTilus> johns^: everybody
[10:55] <paulproteus> jayparadise: They seem to all have been disconnected from FreeNode, those nicks.
[10:55] <TTilus> johns^: uups, sorry, malicious tab-completion
[10:55] <paulproteus> Apparently not all of them.
[10:55] <_ubuntu504> is there a special kernel for AMD ATHLON XP 2800+?
[10:55] <REBELinBLUE> hey
[10:56] <spola> it's probably microsoft !! :p
[10:56] <theplateau> i think one just tried to trick me into giving my nickserv password
[10:56] <nalioth> _ubuntu504: k7 or k8  i believe
[10:56] <REBELinBLUE> oya?
[10:56] <Virtuall> someone must die here
[10:56] <_ubuntu504> nalioth... I have had 10 cd's mailed to me
[10:57] <_ubuntu504> nalioth I think I got the i386 kernel
[10:57] <nalioth> _ubuntu504: then use the x86 disc for install and then worry about specific kernels
[10:57] <faddat> hmmmm
[10:57] <nalioth> !help
[10:57] <nalioth> !ops
[10:57] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[10:57] <_ubuntu504> naloith I am dialup... can't download and recompile a new kernal
[10:57] <lenny_> hello.  I have a question:  I am trying to add the jdk/bin directory I created to my path.  I added it to the path at the top of the /etc/profile file, but for some reason it is not appearing in my user path.  Can someone tell me what I have to do?
[10:57] <REBELinBLUE> anyone know why today when I plug in my iPod I can no longer use it? gtkpod just freezes, using both the USB and firewire connection on both my desktop and laptop
[10:58] <nalioth> _ubuntu504: the i386 will work well enough
[10:58] <faddat> anyone know of Wifi adapters (USB 802.11g, especially) that will work out-of-the-box with Ubuntu?
[10:58] <_ubuntu504> nalioth I didn't see a special version for AMD ATHLON
[10:58] <apokryphos> _ubuntu504: there isn't one
[10:58] <x[x] > .
[10:58] <apokryphos> _ubuntu504: but there is AMD-specific
[10:59] <nalioth> _ubuntu504: there are kernels for most every processor, the i386 will get you running nicely
[10:59] <Prower> It'd be nice if you could actually speak in #freenode to tell the ops about it :>
[10:59] <lenny_> why the hell are all these tabs appearing when I log in?
[10:59] <Prower> lenny_: The channel is being flooded by clonebots
[10:59] <Virtuall> may I say it in russian?  * ,  ,  !
[10:59] <_ubuntu504> this is running soo good on my PC
[10:59] <apokryphos> it is annoying, they should be banned at least temporarily (Freenode staff contacted etc)
[10:59] <apokryphos> !ops
[10:59] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[10:59] <seamus> hello
[10:59] <_ubuntu504> I am in the ubuntu live cd right now
[10:59] <Prower> apokryphos: I tried to mention it in #freenode but it wouldn't go through
[11:00] <apokryphos> Prower: yes, you need to have voice especially
[11:00] <lenny_> f'n clone bot bastards
[11:00] <nalioth> clonebots are everywhere on freenode, it's not just us in here
[11:00] <apokryphos> Another case of where the ops aren't around :(
[11:00] <Virtuall> they're all from different IPs ;( must be open proxies
[11:00] <Prower> apokryphos: Ahh...must be another convenient #freenode policy to help users out, like the rest they've come up with lately ;>
[11:00] <jepeltw> just parted and they still continue
[11:00] <apokryphos> heh
[11:00] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: *-k6, *-k7 and *-k8 -packages are those amdies
[11:00] <funkyHat> guys, do /ignore *!*@* priv
[11:01] <faddat> So, yeah, anyone have reccomendations on a wifi product that will work gloriously with Ubuntu
[11:01] <sjg> uhg
[11:01] <sjg> freaking bots
[11:01] <sjg> die
[11:01] <selinium_> HI all, i appear to be very popular, I am having lots of peolple msg me. Is this some kind off IRC spam
[11:01] <Prower> selinium_: Ignore all private messages for now, it's a bot flood
[11:01] <inva|id> selinium_: it is bot spam
[11:01] <TTilus> selinium_: y
[11:02] <_ubuntu504> TTtilus are they big?
[11:02] <Prower> selenium_: /ignore *!*@* priv worked for me, thanks for whoever suggested it :>
[11:02] <Frafra> if i want a optimized kernel, i must install linux-image-2.6.10-5-[...]  and restricted-modules?
[11:02] <selinium_> Cheers guys.
[11:02] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: depends, talking about kernels or?
[11:02] <goldfish> jesus.
[11:02] <Juhaz> and /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS will help for the channel flood
[11:02] <selinium_> funkyhat cheers for the pointer. How do I switch it back on later?
[11:02] <goldfish> indeed.
[11:02] <Juhaz> for irssi that is, xchat et all will have other options
[11:02] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: if i recall correct they are downloadable over dialup
[11:02] <funkyHat> selinim /unignore and then the same
[11:02] <afonit> thanks funkyhat
[11:03] <goldfish> gentoo and ubuntu being attack simultaneously
[11:03] <qt2> err, /mode +E yournick will get rid of all thoase pm's. ;)
[11:03] <goldfish> *attacked
[11:03] <_ubuntu504> TTilus it automatically used a special kernal for my motherboard
[11:03] <GoClick> Why do random nicks keep sending me black querys?
[11:03] <Prower> GoClick: Bot flood
[11:03] <nalioth> the clonebots are all ove freenode
[11:03] <_ubuntu504> TTilus a nvidia kernal
[11:03] <selinium_> funkyhat: cheers, what tw*t thinks that it takes some kind of genious to do that?
[11:03] <apokryphos> :/
[11:03] <GoClick> ah
[11:03] <Prower> Really ineffective bot flood at that :>
[11:04] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: umm... nvidia kernel?  can't tell
[11:04] <selinium_> GoClick:   /ignore *!*@* priv
[11:04] <Frafra> use /mode +E
[11:04] <lenny_> so, in order to add a path to all users who log into this machine.. what file do I edit?
[11:04] <Frafra> bah
[11:04] <lenny_> I'm trying to add /usr/java/jdk/bin
[11:04] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: i would guess that readily build kernels come with pretty much all chipsets supported
[11:04] <Virtuall> Is that all you can, sucker?! Show yourself!...
[11:04] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: how come?
[11:04] <theplateau> how ami going to unigornore all priv messages later on?
[11:04] <rox__> LasseL?
[11:05] <nalioth> attentions folks: you can /mode <yournick> +E and get rid of most of the spam
[11:05] <x[x] > hmm
[11:05] <theplateau> as in reversaing /ignore *!*@*
[11:05] <Virtuall> what does +E do?
[11:05] <nalioth> +E keeps unidentified nicks from sending you msgs
[11:05] <_ubuntu504> TTilus I am useing a NF7-s Rv2 motherboard
[11:05] <x[x] > it SHOULD be +R like every other damned Network
[11:05] <theplateau> ignores registered nicks
[11:05] <theplateau> unre4gisterd*
[11:05] <_ubuntu504> TTilus it uses a nvidia chipset... not for graphics though
[11:06] <qt2> '/mode +E yournick' is much more effective and doesnt block legitmate pm's...
[11:06] <theplateau> how do i undo /ignore !*@*
[11:07] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: and  you have problems?
[11:07] <lenny_> so, in order to add a path to all users who log into this machine.. what file do I edit?
[11:08] <lenny_> I'm trying to add /usr/java/jdk/bin
[11:08] <bimberi> lenny_: /etc/profile
[11:08] <nicholaspaul> i have a really bare xfce setup... and want to install the network settings panel so i can enter WEP key. Anyone know what that panel is called?
[11:08] <lenny_> and: If I change /etc/profile (the 2 path statements at the top) and they don't appear when I next login, what is the problem?
[11:08] <inva|id> nicholaspaul:  xcfe4-panel
[11:09] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: at a terminal, type "apt-cache search network"
[11:09] <nicholaspaul> :) fanks inva|id "D
[11:09] <bimberi> lenny_: (although I've just joined and have no background to your issue :) )
[11:09] <mike_> hey peoples
[11:09] <mike_> -s
[11:09] <nicholaspaul> fanks nalioth.
[11:09] <lenny_> :) This is the only background
[11:09] <mike_> does anyone here ever use hercules
[11:10] <lenny_> Someone told me before to edit /etc/profile, but it doesn't seem to work... I'm sure I'm doing something wrong
[11:10] <bimberi> lenny_: k :)
[11:10] <mike_> i'm getting an old ibm z series, and i'd like to experiment with the emulator before i get it so i don't fubar the machine
[11:11] <bimberi> lenny_: hmm ok
[11:11] <zer0`> lenny_ you can use the 'last' command, i think
[11:11] <amonkey> how do i mount a dvd iso? is it the same as a cd iso(iso9660)? it mounts wiht iso9660 but totem does't recognize it as a dvd
[11:11] <TTilus> mike_: z series?  are we talking about that huge noisy electrical air heater  :)
[11:13] <bimberi> lenny_: i recall that you need to edit ~/.gnomerc (or something like that) for setting the environment for individual users.  Unfortunately i don't know what the global equivalent is
[11:14] <lenny_> for some reason my PATH = /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[11:14] <lenny_> ok
[11:14] <lenny_> ok
[11:14] <lenny_> nevermind :).  I thought there were duplicates in that path statement
[11:14] <funkyHat> how do i identify myself as an oper (different server, it's a standard ircd afaik)?
[11:15] <nicholaspaul> inva|id - xfce4-panel doesnt seem to exist
[11:15] <lenny_> ok:  What is the last rc directory run after login?
[11:15] <mike_> TTilus, yeah noisy 64bit mainframe sweetness
[11:15] <mike_> hahah
[11:15] <Drewfus> i think i need help mounting a hard drive
[11:16] <Drewfus> i just got a new hard drive but i dont see it anywhere
[11:16] <lexmark> how do I install debian packages...  I have a package with extension *.deb
[11:16] <Drewfus> it is in the device list though
[11:16] <funkyHat> Drewfus, you need to add it in /etc/fstab
[11:17] <Drewfus> is fstab a program?
[11:17] <shamus> How can I remove all of the sun java I have installed? I'm tryinh to install azureus and getting errors, someone said to remove all traces of the sun java and install it via synaptic
[11:17] <funkyHat> no, it's a text file
[11:17] <Drewfus> ok ill try it
[11:17] <funkyHat> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:18] <user1> is anyone running Oracle on Ubuntu?
[11:18] <Drewfus> thanks i think i can figure it out from here
[11:18] <Drewfus> if not ill ask some more
[11:18] <Mr_Rock> hi
[11:18] <daaku> anyone using the appletouch driver on a powerbook? cant seem to get it to work right!
[11:18] <lexmark> can anyone tell me how to install debian packages on ubuntu?
[11:18] <Mr_Rock> somebody can tell me how to configure my adsl?
[11:19] <shamus> lexmark, dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:19] <mike_> Mr_Rock, is it pppoe?
[11:19] <mike_> if so pppoeconfig
[11:19] <Mr_Rock> i think
[11:19] <lexmark> thanks shamus
[11:19] <shamus> no problem
[11:19] <mike_> it will search for the adsl connection from your ethernet, and ask for username/password stuff
[11:20] <nalioth> daaku: what is the appletouch thing?
[11:20] <shamus> what can I use on ubuntu to make a folder a .torrent file?
[11:20] <user1> no one is using Oracle?
[11:20] <nalioth> shamus: any torrent client
[11:20] <Drewfus> on the fstab do i just need to put the device address or do i need to add anything else
[11:20] <flodine> a guys is there a way to make your wallpaper scale with feh
[11:21] <nalioth> flodine: the feh homepage didnt have that info?
[11:21] <shamus> nalioth, apparently not the one I'm using
[11:21] <shamus> qtorrent
[11:21] <ekimus> flodine: what's feh?
[11:21] <user1> I'm going to try installing Oracle on Suse and then transplanting it to Ubuntu. Does anyone know why this might not work?
[11:21] <nalioth> shamus: try "createtorrent"
[11:21] <flodine> something to set wallpapers
[11:21] <lenny_> why isn't smeg in the repos?
[11:21] <nalioth> ekimus: an imlib based image viewer
[11:21] <shamus> nalioth, nevermind I figured it out
[11:22] <nalioth> lenny_: it will be in breezy
[11:22] <shamus> just right click > create archive, and use a .torrent extension
[11:22] <Drewfus> funkyhat: what all do i need to change on fstab, just the device addres?
[11:22] <lenny_> lame
[11:23] <funkyHat> Drewfus, you need to add a new line for each partition on your new drive
[11:23] <Drewfus> i havent formatted it yet
[11:23] <nalioth> Drewfus: ask uncle google "sample fstab"
[11:23] <shamus> actually, no i didn't. it says archive type not supported.
[11:23] <funkyHat> if you haven't formatted the drive yet, you need to do so with a tool like gparted
[11:23] <shamus> i figured since it changed the icon to a torrent icon it worked :?
[11:23] <nalioth> shamus: use regular bittorrent (i've nver used qtorrent)
[11:23] <funkyHat> or kparted if you prefer kde ;)
[11:24] <nalioth> shamus: or bittornado
[11:24] <medamaybe> could someone please tell me why ALL music players I install crash everytime I try to play a file??? :)
[11:24] <mike_> ...
[11:24] <Jowi> hi all
[11:24] <mike_> wtf is going on. i keep getting private (empty) messages from people
[11:24] <medamaybe> mike_, same here, I don't know where they are coming from
[11:24] <flodine> who was i talking to last night about the kernel update
[11:25] <flodine> are you here
[11:25] <Jowi> mike_: same here. and i just got in
[11:25] <nalioth_wrkn> mike_: type "/mode <yournick> +E" and it will filter them all out (this mode filters msgs from non identified users)
[11:25] <mike_> i forgot how to disallow private messages anyway
[11:25] <Drewfus> mike_: i keep getting empty pms too
[11:25] <daaku> nalioth: the trackpad works, but its not being recognized as a synaptics device
[11:25] <mike_> and there we go
[11:25] <mike_> hah
[11:25] <daaku> nalioth: and even to get it to work, i have to load X, rmmod the module, and modprobe it again
[11:25] <eamonn> turn off "auto open dialog windows" under the IRC menu to stop the empty dialogs.
[11:26] <ekimus> mike_: me too, seems like some script kiddie ist testing his/her brandnew "I h4x0r3d the n3t t00lk1t"
[11:26] <flodine> 'is there anyone running kernel 2.6.12 on 5.04
[11:26] <Jowi> nalioth_wrkn: should be a whole lot of non-reg users in here though :-)
[11:26] <shamus> nalioth_wrkn, I installed bittorrent via synaptic, but hwo do i run it?
[11:26] <mike_> god installing linux on an ibm server doesnt seem straight forward
[11:26] <flodine> why dont ubuntu update my kernel like fedora4
[11:27] <Jowi> shamus: it will run automaticly if you click a torrent link in firefox
[11:27] <ekimus> flodine: why should it? the generic kernel for ubuntu is quite ok
[11:27] <Jowi> shamus: you will get an option to either save the torrent or run it with gnome-btsomething
[11:28] <InitMass> what the hell. why are so many people flooding me?
[11:28] <flodine> true
[11:28] <Drewfus> im totally lost formatting this, im new to linux so im still used to the point and click world of win
[11:29] <Jowi> InitMass: same here. eamonn had a good idea though. turn off "auto open dialog window" in the IRC menu
[11:29] <funkyHat> Drewfus, follow the wiki tutorial on adding extra repositories to synaptic,
[11:29] <othernoob> how do i restart KDE?
[11:29] <funkyHat> !repositories
[11:29] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:29] <Drewfus> if its a secondary hard drive just for extra storage can i get away with one massive partition
[11:29] <funkyHat> Drewfus, yes
[11:29] <Drewfus> thanks ill look that wiki up
[11:29] <lexmark> I get this error when attempting to install debian package in the root terminal
[11:29] <lexmark> dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:29] <lexmark>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:29] <funkyHat> Drewfus, then use synaptic to install gparted
[11:30] <Drewfus> i did im in it now
[11:30] <funkyHat> oh cool (Y)
[11:30] <daaku> Jowi:  thats useful!
[11:30] <InitMass> Jowi, under which menu?
[11:30] <Drewfus> i labeled the drive but im not sure how to partition it
[11:30] <funkyHat> *sorry msn thumbs up smiley ;)
[11:30] <streets> biri yardim etsin..
[11:30] <Kurz> hello...
[11:30] <Jowi> InitMass: X-Chat IRC menu. top one
[11:30] <ak007> can anyone tell me that how do i install a boot screen for ubuntu?
[11:30] <Drewfus> what file system
[11:30] <funkyHat> ext3
[11:30] <Jowi> daaku: i thought so too :-)
[11:30] <InitMass> Jowi, i found it. thank you
[11:30] <munir> Hello all.
[11:31] <lexmark> can anyone help with that problem?
[11:31] <Kurz> how can i give more permissions to users in ubuntu?
[11:31] <shamus> Jowi, thanks, but how do I make a .torrent file with it?
[11:31] <gentoo_junkie> depends hehe
[11:31] <Drewfus> funkyhat do i need any freespace before or after?
[11:31] <lexmark> not sure what I am doing wrong.. I am following instructions closely
[11:31] <Jowi> Kurz: you can add them to the /etc/sudoers file if you want to make them admin
[11:31] <daaku> Drewfus:  not unless you plan to do something with it
[11:31] <ak007> and how do i access windows files from ubuntu?
[11:31] <tck_> hi
[11:31] <tck_> getting  OpenSSL crypto library missing error
[11:31] <nicholaspaul> does anyone know what the network manager in XFCE is called?
[11:31] <Drewfus> what do you mean do something with it
[11:31] <tck_> how do i fix it ?
[11:31] <ompaul> !ntfs
[11:32] <munir> I am new to Linux. Is ubuntu fine to me?
[11:32] <Jowi> lexmark: be sure you are in the same directory and that you type in the filename correctly. dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:32] <streets> I can't see the some part of my hdd.. how can I see it.. ( file system is ntfs )
[11:32] <whyameye> I am trying to install the java runtime environment in Firefox as instructed on the ubuntu guide. When I get to sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 it tells me this package doesn't exist. I have already added the extra repositories.
[11:32] <nicholaspaul> yes munir - ubuntu is the easiest distro, and the best :)
[11:32] <ompaul> !tell ak007 about ntfs
[11:32] <daaku> Drewfus: if its a second drive where you're only gonna store data, then you dont need freespace before or after
[11:32] <CookedGryphon> Hi, I'm buying a laptop from ebay, and there's one here that i like the look of, but it says that it is designed for windows XP and there are no drivers for other operating systems. Is this true, or jsut bullshit. It's a Versa C140, specifications : http://help.nec-computers.com/uk/pib.asp?platform=platform_Mangusta&layout=1902
[11:32] <Kurz> Jovi: but, if i do that, can have any problemam with the sistem? or this normal...
[11:32] <Drewfus> daaku thanks
[11:32] <_frank_> whyameye: It's a problem with the reposiroty... not your fault
[11:32] <CookedGryphon> cos i want to install ubuntu on it but if i can't find drivers its useless
[11:33] <munir> Thanks <nicholaspaul>. Can you compare it with SuSE?
[11:33] <lexmark> jowi, I open the root terminal and I type "Dir".. it tells me I am in desktop.. thats when I start typing in that command
[11:33] <whyameye> _frank_, so how can I install JRE?
[11:33] <_frank_> whyameye: : the backport problems are only temporary I think. you still can download manually at http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/ the hoary-extras packages
[11:33] <_frank_> whyameye: then use dpkg to install
[11:33] <Drewfus> can anyone suggest a good music player for a library of 10,000+ songs
[11:33] <daaku> Drewfus: be careful with partitioning though, it has the potential to destroy data, make sure you've got backups
[11:33] <Drewfus> its brand new drive
[11:33] <whyameye> _frank_, any disadvantage to this?
[11:34] <Jowi> lexmark: you must be in the same directory as your .deb file to make sure. the error tells me that dpkg can not find the file with that name....
[11:34] <daaku> Drewfus: amarok on kde, rhythmbox on gnome, there's many other depending on how you access it
[11:34] <_frank_> no the end result is the same. you're only avoiding the problem in the repository this way
[11:34] <shamus> How can I make a .torrent file with bittorrent?
[11:34] <ak007> the channel is overloaded!!
[11:35] <Drewfus> daaku do those have easy support for .mp3 .aac .wma
[11:35] <Jowi> lexmark: use tab-completion to make sure. dpkg -i ymess<tab>
[11:35] <lexmark> the .deb file in the desktop Jowi....  there where the root terminal opens up to right?
[11:35] <ak007> can anyone one tell me how do i add a boot screen?????
[11:35] <nicholaspaul> munir - no i dont know Suse... but from what i've heard, Ubuntu is easier to use. You can custom install it from a slim, fast 500Mb distro up to a couple gigs if you want.
[11:35] <NoUse> ak007 google probably knows
[11:35] <cafuego_> if you can explain what a 'boot screen' is, sure.
[11:35] <nicholaspaul> Google knows :)
[11:35] <_frank_> whyameye: you run i386 right?
[11:35] <daaku> Drewfus: never used .wma or .aac files, so not quite sure
[11:35] <eamonn> ak007, that's coming in the next version: breezy.
[11:35] <lexmark> I'll try that
[11:35] <whyameye> _frank_, yes.
[11:35] <Drewfus> daaku thanks
[11:36] <nicholaspaul> hey cafuego_, i think i fixed my php prob from last night!!
[11:36] <whyameye> _frank_, I'm downloading now...
[11:36] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: woo!
[11:36] <streets> CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW CAN I MOUNT MY HDD PARTITION..
[11:36] <munir> Thanks nicholaspaul.
[11:36] <Jowi> streets: no need to shout man
[11:36] <streets> sorry for the caps..
[11:36] <nicholaspaul> cafeugo_... yea... i should have pointed the browser to the folder and clicked the file. Also i had trouble with 'any' file labelled testphp.php for some reason. Renaming it was fine!!
[11:37] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: odd, very odd.
[11:37] <NoUse> !mount
[11:37] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[11:37] <Jowi> !windowsdrives
[11:37] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[11:37] <Jowi> streets: look up!
[11:37] <nicholaspaul> cafuego_ yea!! :) oh well! course, now i have a problem with xfce , i need a network manager.
[11:37] <Drewfus> daaku i dont see rythmbox on synaptic where can i find it
[11:37] <_frank_> cafuego_ expands the english vocabulary!
[11:37] <nicholaspaul> lol
[11:38] <streets> thanks
[11:38] <Jowi> np
[11:38] <nicholaspaul> :-(
[11:38] <cafuego_> _frank_: For profit and entertainment!
[11:38] <janne__> HI All!
[11:38] <lenny_> it's so much nicer running ubuntu i386 than amd64
[11:38] <daaku> Drewfus: its probably in universe or multiverse, cause apt-get shows it here
[11:38] <ak007> can i add a boot screen in 5.04 ?
[11:38] <vader1102> why are people private messaging me?
[11:38] <cafuego_> lenny_: omg lolz yo eye not leet tho!
[11:38] <_frank_> lenny_: I know... breezy might be better for amd64 hopefully
[11:38] <NoUse> !info rhythmbox
[11:38] <CookedGryphon> i'm gettgin that, blank messages
[11:38] <daaku> Drewfus: actually, i've got a stock ubuntu install here, and its a part of it
[11:38] <ubotu> rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-7ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 1517 kB, Installed size: 4268 kB
[11:39] <cafuego_> ak007: Do you mean a bootsplash in grub? Yes.
[11:39] <Drewfus> where? daaku
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> yea, i'm getting blank PMs too.
[11:39] <shamus> vader1102, some kind of bot attack
[11:39] <Jowi> vader1102: some scriptkiddie is having a blast. disable "auto open dialog window" in the IRC menu in Xchat
[11:39] <vader1102> k
[11:39] <Drewfus> daaku i dont see it under audio
[11:39] <janne__> How can i remove icons from menus, like GAMES --->Enemy Territory (icon is gone, but frames is still in there)?
[11:39] <daaku> Drewfus: Music Player in Sound & Audio
[11:39] <nicholaspaul> vader1102, use the force against those bots... heheh
[11:39] <cafuego_> vader1102: '/mode vader1102 +CE'
[11:39] <whyameye> _frank_, beautiful! Worked like a charm!
[11:39] <lenny_> I hope so.  I was going to install breezy until I saw some horrible posts about the repos being full of broken apps :)
[11:39] <Drewfus> daaku i think i tried that and it said it didnt have the mp3 codec
[11:39] <_frank_> whyameye: great!
[11:39] <vader1102> cafuego, do I type that in?
[11:40] <cafuego_> vader1102: if you're an identified user, that will automatically ignore messages from non-indetified users.
[11:40] <vader1102> I should be
[11:40] <vader1102> I registered this nick
[11:40] <janne__> How can i remove icons from menus, like GAMES --->Enemy Territory (icon is gone, but frames is still in there)?
[11:40] <ompaul> for those getting annoyed by these muppets with their blank messages  /ignore *!*@*85.186.194.249 all and /ignore *!*@*241.221.97-84.rev.gaoland.net all
[11:40] <cafuego_> non-identified as well
[11:41] <Jowi> janne__: all menu items are in /usr/share/applications
[11:41] <daaku> Drewfus: ah. try 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad', should fix it
[11:41] <Drewfus> daaku thanks again
[11:41] <nicholaspaul> i'm registered too, and i still get the messages
[11:41] <cafuego_> ompaul: Or download an run the delayed-join irssi script, what just doesn't display them (AT ALL) if they join, then leave before saying anything :-)
[11:41] <ak007> no when the boot screen when ubuntu is loading
[11:41] <vader1102> how do I set IRC to auto log in?
[11:42] <Jowi> janne__: there should be a menu editor somewhere as well, but i can not recall its name.... hmmmm....
[11:42] <CookedGryphon> smeg
[11:42] <ompaul> cafuego_ if I wanted to use irssi :-)
[11:42] <cafuego_> ak007: Like an image or something whilst the kernel loads? That's being added to breezy.
[11:42] <Jowi> CookedGryphon: cheers :-)
[11:42] <cafuego_> ompaul: If you don't, you deserve all the spammage you get.
[11:42] <Jowi> !smeg
[11:42] <ubotu> methinks smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[11:42] <ak007> is there anyway i can add to my 5.04?
[11:42] <janne__> oh...but there isnt game icon at all....those must be somewhere else...(?)
[11:42] <cafuego_> ak007: ... so with the correct kernel patches, hoary should be able to do it too.
[11:42] <cafuego_> ak007: You're after 'bootsplash'
[11:43] <nicholaspaul> Has anyone installed a net-watch app so you can watch people on your network?
[11:43] <nicholaspaul> put it this way.. i have kids!!
[11:43] <Jowi> janne__: yes, the icons are in different places. one is /usr/share/icons, /usr/share/pixmaps etc
[11:43] <ak007> and is there any way i can replace my Gnome file browser?
[11:43] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: that was your first mistake...
[11:44] <lenny_> How do I get KDE as an option on the session list of the logon screen?
[11:44] <nicholaspaul> haha cafuego_
[11:44] <cafuego_> ak007: I doubt it; you could install one in addition to nautilus, though.
[11:44] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: i installed tcpspy. it logs all internet traffic (including from which machine accessed which webpage)
[11:44] <nicholaspaul> thing is, cafuego_, they didnt come with an uninstall app;)
[11:44] <ak007> how?
[11:44] <_frank_> lenny_: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[11:44] <funkyHat> lenny_, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <nicholaspaul> hows it work, jowi?
[11:44] <vader1102> the best NET NANNY is you sitting there watching, other than that I have a PASSWORD invironment
[11:44] <spola> i know the easiest way to stop being attacked by these bots ...
[11:44] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: Didn't you know abortion is legal until they can do higher maths?
[11:45] <nicholaspaul> i'm in canada, i think its when they can talk here.
[11:45] <lenny_> ouch 330 MG :(
[11:45] <ak007> cafuego_: do u know any except  nautilus?
[11:45] <lenny_> er MB
[11:45] <cafuego_> ak007: nah
[11:45] <cafuego_> ak007: apt-cache search file manager
[11:45] <janne__> i see....now i know where icons are....but where games or other programs save their informations in menus?
[11:45] <cafuego_> nicholaspaul: does that mean if Bush went to canada, he could be aborted? :-)
[11:45] <tck_> hi
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> you got it cafuego_ :)
[11:46] <tck_> i get this error 'configure: error: OpenSSL crypto library missing' when compiling a program
[11:46] <tck_> any ideas ?
[11:46] <ak007> can i install KDE on ubuntu?
[11:46] <lenny_> holy crap
[11:46] <cafuego_> whctacha compiling?
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> yes ak007
[11:46] <funkyHat> ak007, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> ak007 - it works great, i use it all the time :D
[11:46] <lenny_> in canada you can kill your 1 year old and say - "I changed my mind"?
[11:46] <lenny_> heh
[11:46] <ak007> o
[11:46] <nicholaspaul> lenny_ haah! but you cant use a gun;)
[11:46] <cafuego_> lenny_: Seems only fair, no?
[11:46] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: its a daemon. runs silently. it logs all connections to /var/log/syslog i think. it will show you date/time - from ip - to ip - www/ftp/etc
[11:46] <ak007> im u know a newbie
[11:47] <Drewfus> is there an easier way to use another hard drive other than editing fstab
[11:47] <RichardP> hi people, whats ubuntu like for general server tasks?  Looking to install something on my recently ressurected SMP system
[11:47] <nicholaspaul> oh we've all been there ak007
[11:47] <CookedGryphon> tck, do u have the ssl libraries?
[11:47] <cafuego_> Speak for yourself, I was born 133+.
[11:47] <vader1102> RichardP, is it a USB hard drive?
[11:47] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: it even say "www:216.239.59.99 (google)" or something like that. i haven't looked for awhile since i am the only user herer
[11:47] <Jowi> !info tcpspy
[11:47] <lexmark> how do I log in as root btw?
[11:47] <ubotu> tcpspy: (Incoming and Outgoing TCP/IP connections logger), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.7d-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 36 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[11:48] <ompaul> cafuego, maybe just maybe I start to use irssi :(
[11:48] <ak007> do i have to compile the source?
[11:48] <_frank_> ak007: for what? Kde? no
[11:48] <RichardP> vader1102: no, standard PATA, just looking for a webserver with php5, mysql, mailserver etc.  people keep mentioning ubuntu everywhere i go, so i thought id look into it :)
[11:48] <eamonn> lexmark, sudo -s, then type your password (*your* password)
[11:48] <ak007> so where can i download kde for my ubuntu?
[11:49] <RichardP> and why do people keep messaging me but not say anything?
[11:49] <lexmark> thanx eamonn
[11:49] <_frank_> ak007: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop you type that in a console
[11:49] <vader1102> oh, sorry for some reason I keep thinking everyone is on a laptop lol
[11:49] <eamonn> lexmark, welcome
[11:49] <CookedGryphon> RichardP, every1's gettin that
[11:49] <nicholaspaul> at the terminal ak007. i think someone said it was 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:49] <RichardP> CookedGryphon: only seems to be in this chan tho
[11:49] <_frank_> ak007: or you can also use synaptic to install that package
[11:49] <CookedGryphon> i meant every1 in this channel
[11:49] <RichardP> ahh
[11:50] <Drewfus> when i edit this fstab will it change for all users?
[11:50] <zeedo> RichardP: /mode richardp +E
[11:50] <Jowi> Drewfus: fstab is for the system, so yes.
[11:50] <zeedo> RichardP: that should stop it
[11:50] <Drewfus> thanks
[11:50] <rob_p> CookedGryphon:  Not me :-)  At least yet...
[11:50] <RichardP> whats mode +E?
[11:50] <zeedo> RichardP: only registered users can message you
[11:50] <RichardP> ahhh
[11:51] <RichardP> cheers
[11:51] <zeedo> np
[11:51] <nicholaspaul> THIS has to be the best channel - there are always some super helpful chaps here :D hehe
[11:51] <ak007>  _frank_ : i get an error E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[11:51] <RichardP> so, worth installing ubunu for mundane server type tasks or is it strictly a desktop distro?
[11:52] <nicholaspaul> RichardP : depends what you mean by mundane. I have one machine running xfce and all it does is play mp3s.
[11:52] <CookedGryphon> ak007, Y NOT USE SYNAPTIC?
[11:52] <ttyS0> i didn't get an answer on #kubuntu & #kde, so: "hello. i've a problem with russian encodings in KDE. i've installed KDE not a long time ago (i prefered Gnome). A Big part  of apps is working normally, but there are problems with internet application, for example Kopete. It doesn't show russian nicknames in ICQ. What should I do?"
[11:52] <medamaybe> does anyone know how I can set my screen resolution without having to set it again everytime I boot?
[11:52] <RichardP> nicholaspaul: apache, php, mysql, email, ftp, etc
[11:52] <NoUse> !tell ak007 about synaptic
[11:52] <ak007> what is  SYNAPTIC?
[11:52] <tritium> medamaybe, have you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[11:52] <Jowi> RichardP: you can choose at installation if you want server (stripped) or desktop version.
[11:52] <medamaybe> uhm...no
[11:53] <medamaybe> what's that?
[11:53] <CookedGryphon> ak007, its a package manager
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> ak007 - its the way to download all apps. Go to Terminal and type sudo synaptic.
[11:53] <RichardP> Jowi: that sounds exactly what i want :)
[11:53] <tritium> medamaybe, it's a way to reconfigure the xserver settings, including resolution
[11:53] <RichardP> cheers, i guess i will start downloading
[11:53] <medamaybe> tritium: is it noob-secure?
[11:53] <ak007> o so how do i run it?
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> richardp: Have fun, and if you need a light/fast setup, use xfce not gnome
[11:53] <p8ntballer> ahhh somebody help me i cant change my video resolution!! i tryed what it said on wiki but it didnt work
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> ak007 - sudo synaptic.
[11:53] <RichardP> nicholaspaul: there wont be a gui at all
[11:53] <CookedGryphon> ak007,  and you can just search for kde and it will come up with all the packages related to that, n mark kubuntu-desktop for installation n it will sort the dependencies
[11:53] <tritium> medamaybe, more or less
[11:53] <nicholaspaul> richardp xfce is a gui yes
[11:54] <Jowi> RichardP: i use it mostly for Desktop but am running ftp, samba, vnc, apache and ssh server on it as well
[11:54] <medamaybe> k, I'll give it a try, thanks
[11:54] <daaku> i'm a little new to linux-ppc, can someone recommened a good bootable rescue cd for ppc, with support for the wierd powerbook keyboards hopefully?
[11:54] <RichardP> nicholaspaul: i know it is, i wont be running x
[11:54] <nicholaspaul> richardp: but you dont 'need' a desktop, no.
[11:54] <nicholaspaul> richardp: oh ok, gotcha. :)
[11:54] <p8ntballer> i cant change my screen res any help....?
[11:54] <Jowi> RichardP: if you choose server install, not even X is installed
[11:54] <RichardP> nicholaspaul: im not a n00b :) just never touched ubuntu before
[11:55] <RichardP> currently got openbsd on there
[11:55] <nicholaspaul> richardp: ok.. sorry. I got my Linux feet wet with Ubuntu and cant think of a reason to use anything else.
[11:55] <lexmark> can someone tell me what I am doing wrong... I logged in as root, and then typed in dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb to install yahoo messenger...  but I get this error root@94544:~# dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:55] <lexmark> dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:55] <lexmark>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:55] <lexmark> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:55] <lexmark>  ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[11:55] <RichardP> nicholaspaul: i use openbsd at work, and OSX at home
[11:56] <ak007> it can find anything maybe i have to add repos?
[11:56] <p8ntballer> can somebody help me with my screen resolution i cant get it to work??
[11:56] <nicholaspaul> RichardP.. good man :) i use OSX for all work. Linux for everything else.
[11:56] <Drewfus> where should my moint point be for my extra hard drive?
[11:56] <Jowi> lexmark: it can not find the file you are trying to install. make sure you're in the same directory as the file you downloaded.
[11:56] <RichardP> hoary or warty?
[11:56] <tritium> p8ntballer, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", abd make sure you select the resolutions you want
[11:56] <pax> !resolution
[11:56] <ubotu> resolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:56] <RichardP> ahh hoary is the latest
[11:56] <NoUse> !tell ak007 about repositories
[11:57] <lexmark> jowi, when I am in the root... I type in "dir" and tells me I am in desktop
[11:57] <ak007> i know but where can i find ubuntu repositories?
[11:57] <Jowi> lexmark: yes, but is your file there?
[11:57] <nalioth_wrkn> lexmark: type in "pwd" instead of 'dir'
[11:57] <lexmark> yes, file is in the desktop... looking at it right now
[11:57] <NoUse> ak007 ubotu told you, it says where to find official repositories
[11:57] <p8ntballer> tritium, i tryed that nothing happened
[11:57] <lexmark> sitting on the brown ubuntu screen
[11:57] <luser> hello all, I'm a very new linux use, but am trying to give a go with ubuntu. I'm having a problem with loading programs or updates because of a repository problem
[11:57] <tritium> p8ntballer, nothing?
[11:57] <nicholaspaul> ak007 - are you registered on the forum?
[11:58] <p8ntballer> nope
[11:58] <Drewfus> where should i set the mount point for my extra hard drive
[11:58] <ompaul> RichardP, hoary, beta is breezy, due in Oct - DI makes it fun - and apt-get beats pkg_install most of the time :)
[11:58] <misfit_toy> any good recommendations for games for little kids? like from 3 and up?
[11:58] <p8ntballer> its stuck at 640 by 480
[11:58] <lenny_> I hate that changing /etc/profile didn't work
[11:58] <daaku> Drewfus: whereever you want, just make sure the directory exists. usually mount points are in /mnt
[11:58] <RichardP> ompaul: cheers :)
[11:58] <eamonn> misfit_toy, tuxracer.
[11:58] <cafuego_> ak007: Start SYnaptic,  choose Settings -> Repositories -> click Add
[11:58] <p8ntballer> this is pissing me off
[11:58] <misfit_toy> eamonn, too demanding on the video
[11:58] <Drewfus> thanks
[11:58] <tritium> p8ntballer, it should do _something_
[11:58] <pfp> p8ntballer: did you restart X too?
[11:59] <luser> I used the beginning user guide, but I keep getting this
[11:59] <eamonn> misfit_toy, my kids like it. For a while (you get bored quickly).
[11:59] <p8ntballer> how to i restart x?
[11:59] <nicholaspaul> p8ntballer - there should be info on the forum. I cant remember exactly how.
[11:59] <p8ntballer> im a noob
[11:59] <misfit_toy> eamonn, she's on a laptop with no acceleration
[11:59] <Jowi> lexmark: if you're sure then you're not doing anything wrong. maybe a corrupt file.
[11:59] <luser> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/u niverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-secu rity_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[11:59] <cafuego_> p8ntballer: logout, hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:59] <nalioth> howdy tritium cafuego_
[11:59] <ompaul> misfit_toy, have a look at the debian educational stuff it is useful
[11:59] <lexmark> let me try downloading it again
[11:59] <tritium> hola, nalioth
[11:59] <cafuego_> nalioth: mornin'
[11:59] <luser> but as far as I can tell that is the correct repository path
[12:00] <eamonn> misfit_toy, ahh. There's lots of Web-based flash games for kids. Maybe try a few of those?
[12:00] <nicholaspaul> i guess p8ntballer logged out...
[12:00] <CookedGryphon> I'm buying a laptop from ebay, and there's one here that i like the look of, but it says that it is designed for windows XP and there are no drivers for other operating systems. Is this true, or jsut bullshit. It's a Versa C140, specifications : http://help.nec-computers.com/uk/pib.asp?platform=platform_Mangusta&layout=1902