=== regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-115-118.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === scotdb [n=scotdb@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/scotdb] has joined #kubuntu === pluh [n=pluh@195.70.144.69.adsl.nextra.cz] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] greetings ... sorry if this is some old topic but can someone help me? i have a fresh and clean ubuntu instalation and xmms and mplayer just end at the startup daying something about segmenation fault ... did i miss something? [12:25] did you install the codecs === _mephisto [n=mephisto@dsl-201-129-173-127.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #kubuntu === Glin|Jol [n=bobo@cpe-66-108-244-133.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _thomas [n=thomas@lns-th2-15-poi-82-64-235-32.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _thomas is now known as Solal [12:40] which codecs? [12:41] i did not do anything instead of typing 'apt-get install xmms' [12:41] crimsun: you ever get amaroK 1.3 debs to go? [12:41] pluh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs === _static [n=static@adsl-209-30-116-92.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === scotdb [n=scotdb@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/scotdb] has left #kubuntu [] [12:48] well i dont think codecs are the issue since the apps crashed without displaying or playing anything === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === marsh [n=marsh@82-33-193-196.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:50] hey guys... can anyone help me with a network problem? === wirwzd [n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === pax [n=pax@pdpc/supporter/student/pax] has joined #kubuntu [12:52] simple question: if I conect 2 machines with crossover cable (1 ubuntu, 1 kubuntu) with one net card set to 192.168.0.1 & the other 192.168.0.2, is there anything to stop them talking? (destination host unreachable) [12:52] as far as i know theres no firewall rules set at all [12:52] and both net cards are 'up' [12:53] There shouldn't be, as long as they're on the same subnet. [12:53] (according to ifconfig) [12:53] subnet? [12:53] Yes. [12:54] they're connected by crossover [12:54] There are still subnets while networking by crossover. [12:54] the second machine has another card - it's the broadband one i'm talking on [12:54] inet addr:192.168.0.102 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 <-- subnet [12:55] Make sure they're both on the same subnet (mask) [12:55] Aha! one is 255.0.0.0 - the other is 255.255.255.0 [12:56] :) [12:56] That'd do it then [12:56] i can change it with ifconfig? [12:56] I'll check it out... [12:56] I believe so, try Googling it. [12:56] ifconfig eth0 netmask 255.255.255.0 [12:56] Hehehe... - cheers Xorlev [12:56] I can't remember how, or I'd tell you, fortunately gnumdk knew =) [12:57] Oh, no... I lied - that was the loopback subnet - they ARE both the same... :( [12:57] erf [12:57] Ah, damn. [12:58] both broadcast & subnet are the same :(( [12:58] so they should talk to each other fine then? [12:58] Whats the inet addr? [12:58] 192.168.0.1 & 2 [12:58] k [12:59] (1 on the broadband machine) [12:59] think I'll have to make up a new cable... [12:59] So you can't ping 192.168.0.2 at all? [12:59] no... unreachable host [01:00] 'destination host unreachable' - both ways [01:00] Maybe the cable is bad? [01:00] just gonna make another... [01:01] I'll brb in about 20 minutes, let me know if it works. <-- likes to hear solutions [01:01] cool [01:03] marsh, so two boxes, one with two interfaces and the other with one? === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] Xorlev: yr a diamond - cable was dodgy ;) === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] marsh: Good to hear thats what was wrong! =) === incubii [i=incubii@iBurst-034.isp.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] xorlev - yr not kidding! === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [01:28] Xorlev: now it's going, if I add routes with route commands to share the connection, do i have to restart a service (routing service)? [01:30] Or reload it I'd think [01:31] Not sure, I never have done connection sharing...I run all my stuff through switches and routers. [01:32] Xorlev: right - it's different like that then...? /me is a bit ignorant to it all... [01:32] <-- struggling newbie Hehehe... [01:33] Heh, mine I just plug into the router and it uses DHCP to get the IP address, subnet, and such, then it works :P [01:33] Never had to mess with connection sharing, except once on Windows. [01:35] bloody show off! [01:35] ;) [01:35] still - 's educational [01:35] ;) === n17r0 [n=n17r0@s5590409d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Bjerrk [n=bjerrk@83.73.140.244.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #kubuntu === Bjerrk [n=bjerrk@83.73.140.244.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has left #kubuntu [] [01:55] #ubuntu === Phantom^^ [n=john@82-71-19-153.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] Hey can anyone here recommend a firewall for kubuntu ? === _jeff [n=jeff@host-66-205-125-240.classicnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:14] Phantom^^, iptables frontend? [02:15] umm something easy i'm a n00b [02:16] guarddog or apt-cache search firewall | grep kde to see what's out there [02:16] never new you could search in apt-get [02:16] thats very cool === _jeff is now known as JeffAMcGee [02:17] I did not really know what i was doing but i typed in sudo apt-get upgrade [02:17] I hope i'm not going to mess things up [02:17] lol [02:17] that's it, just run sudo apt-get update first [02:17] yeah i did [02:18] now its going nuts [02:18] yeah i think guarddog looks good it says in the description its good for begginers. I also jsut installed this thing called snort and i havent any idea how to use it but it looks very cool [02:18] if you don't mind gtk programs, firestarter is an easy 'firewall' ala windoz [02:19] what does gtk mean ? [02:20] snort is a sniffer, if you use the box as desktop, just close unused ports/shut down unused services [02:21] ahh ok [02:21] might try arnos firewall script [02:21] I'll read up on that. [02:21] its a shell script but it works and is easy enough [02:21] never could figure out the gui ones [02:21] Phantom^^, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK [02:22] I'm having problems telling a second machine (connected with crossover) to share my connection. [02:23] wow pax gimp looks very good [02:23] marsh, speaking of the devil, firestarter can help you with that (setting NAT) [02:23] I have 192.168.0.0 set (in route) [02:24] pax - it's on it's way... - do I need it on both machines? [02:24] nop just the one connected to the net [02:24] or have to set anything on the client machine? [02:24] cool!!!! [02:24] ;)) [02:24] right i guess i'll try arnos [02:25] i need to get the hang of using the commandline and i bet this is a good way of doing it [02:26] Phantom^^, read up http://www.linuxcommand.org/ === Shadowing [n=antoine@dsl-131-104.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu [02:27] damn [02:27] the efficiency of apt-get is awe inspiring [02:27] yeah too bad we can't use it in wars :c) === __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] lol even guarddog is confusing me oh well [02:32] night everybody [02:33] thanks for the heads ups [02:34] try firestarter then === martin [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:34] other than 4 mouse clicks to set it up, you never have to touch it [02:35] #ubuntu [02:36] what about it martin? === ghetek2 [n=Alex@c-67-169-1-47.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:38] i cant get into a folder via ftp [02:38] i installed ftpd, what now? [02:40] ok this sounds really silly but if i close firestarter in kde does it stop runnning ? === martin is now known as ManLord [02:41] Phantom^^, nop [02:42] you'll have to /etc/init.d/firestarter stop to stop it, ot simply click on the stop button, exiting, closing the program doesn't stop it [02:42] s/ot/or [02:42] sweat [02:42] lol sweet* [02:43] linux is all about sweat, correct. [02:43] Aaaaarggg! >:( === _Jeevan [n=jeevan@pe17503.lrdns.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:44] so ftp? folder? [02:44] if I set a gw route on my client machine it dissapears when I restart the network (along with the card itself from ifconfig) - it's driving me MAD! [02:45] why cant I share the connection? === KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [02:45] lol im generating a key pair or something in KGP [02:45] its taking a while [02:45] does anyone know the answer to this teaming headache I seem to be developing? [02:45] drink lots of water [02:46] AHA!!! I have it! [02:46] marsh look at /etc/netwrok/interfaces you'll get it [02:47] now can anyone tell me - do I have to write script to do this every time I startup [02:47] ? [02:47] do what? [02:48] or is that what your saying, pax - will /etc/network/interfaces make it the default setup when I startup? [02:48] wep === n17r0 [n=n17r0@s5590409d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [02:48] pax set the route & gateway on the client.. [02:48] correct === __static [n=static@adsl-209-30-116-92.dsl.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] I'm with ya - thanks pax... === nxv_ [n=matrix@dsl-084-056-080-096.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:50] <-- strolls down the clear coridor pax has cleared for him on the way to debian enlightenment... [02:50] cheers pax ;) [02:50] np, just make sure you have 'auto ethX' somewhere in that file === nxv__ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-080-096.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === utta [n=brandon@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:59] pax - auto ethX? [03:00] is that how I get it to set itself up?? sort of like a dhcp on the client? [03:00] correct [03:02] thx again pax - ya know - after hours of googling, none of this is explained - at least, if it is, it's not understandable! [03:03] rewarding hours tho === Phantom^ [n=john@82-71-19-153.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [03:05] marsh, check this out http://www.aboutdebian.com/index.htm who knows, maybe you'll find some it interesting === Xorlev [n=xorlev@wsu195-111.ctelco.net] has joined #kubuntu === fromoze is now known as fromoze_away === ghetek2 [n=Alex@c-67-169-1-47.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.47] has joined #kubuntu [03:20] anyone know how I deslelct all this stuff in vim, I must have pressed a weird key combo or sumpin [03:21] whole blocks of text are selected and cant get out of it [03:22] nm its gone! === _adam [n=adam@ip70-188-254-171.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:26] <_adam> Is there any way to fix the lock-ups I get when using KDE with a 64bit processer? [03:26] <_adam> anyone in here === Mens [n=w00t@s5590409d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu === ubotu [n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Carson [i=Gadjet@CPE-60-226-247-207.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === DrDogwelder [n=none@b-6c.lcom.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] _adam, when does it lock up [04:00] Riddle me this: a few of the programs I use have abnormally large fonts, though I believe they aren't meant to be that way. LinNeighborhood for one, XMMS right-click menu, Xine right-click menu. Screenshot of LinNeighborhood: http://munimentum.nanoshock.net/fonts-big.jpg [04:02] if you are in kde and using a gnome app some adjustments can be made to make the fonts more compatibile [04:02] Such as? [04:03] sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt -- that will allow you to adjust some gnome things in kcontrol [04:03] that should help [04:03] Thanks [04:03] np [04:03] :) [04:04] <_adam> Can someone help me with my lock-up problem === kpow3r [n=kpow3r@200-112-136-68.bbt.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [04:05] <_adam> it Happens when I'm using the web browser === kpow3r is now known as pow3r [04:05] <_adam> and I'm running a 64bit processor [04:06] _adam, maybe it is one of the plugins. or a specific site.. which web browser konq [04:07] Hmm, installed that package, saw it in kcontrol, reopened LinNeighborhood, still looks the same. Uses the KDE fonts and KDE theme [04:07] <_adam> Yeah, konq [04:07] bummer.. i wonder if that is a gtk1 program [04:07] <_adam> It seems to look up on the wiki ubuntu site [04:08] <_adam> By the way, how can I play DVD on this thing? [04:08] <_adam> I have kaffeine [04:08] _adam, I have the worst luck with kaffeine [04:08] i use mplayer and firefox [04:09] XMMS looks the same too o.o [04:09] <_adam> Where can I find mplayer [04:09] xmms is gtk1 i think.. beep is gtk2 [04:09] (the display font is fine, but the right click font == >_<) [04:09] I'll give mplayer a whirl. === pow3r [n=kpow3r@200-112-136-68.bbt.net.ar] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:10] use synaptic along with these docs -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [04:10] _adam, you will not need to compile anything [04:10] just enable the repositories and use synaptic [04:11] <_adam> How can I enable repositories, on the wiki site it locks up at that pge [04:11] firefox [04:11] <_adam> What? [04:11] you have more browser than konq right? [04:11] <_adam> No [04:11] <_adam> I downloaded opera, but I don't know how to compile. [04:12] sudo apt-get install firefox [04:12] <_adam> I get a couldnt find firefox error [04:12] _adam, sudo apt-get install synaptic [04:13] <_adam> alright, synaptic is done [04:13] then kdesu synaptic to install software. === pow3r [n=kpow3r@200-112-136-68.bbt.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu [04:13] but you will need to enable repositories [04:13] !sources [04:13] sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 [04:14] follow that paste link [04:14] <_adam> That page locks me up everytime [04:14] <_adam> I can not go there [04:14] wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 [04:15] then bring it up in kate [04:15] well konqueror would be better than kate [04:16] <_adam> alright, its saved [04:16] <_adam> how do I bring it up [04:16] konqueror 969 [04:16] <_adam> is that a command [04:16] yeah [04:16] are you using hoary [04:16] kde 3.4.1 [04:16] <_adam> 3.4.0 [04:17] hoary [04:17] <_adam> I guess [04:17] <_adam> lol [04:18] <_adam> What do I do with this document I saved and opened? [04:19] Bah, what program has all the keyboard shortcuts? I found it earlier. I wanted to disable the one that hibernated me or put me in standby. [04:19] at the bottom it has sources.list.. if you do not know what that is.. then i am done [04:19] sorry [04:19] <_adam> Which source do I need === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33] has joined #kubuntu === pow3r [n=kpow3r@200-112-136-68.bbt.net.ar] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === guilhermee [n=guilherm@200165114028.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] how i update my kubuntu to breezy ? [04:37] change hoary to breezy in your sources.list perhaps? === pax_ [n=pax@pdpc/supporter/student/pax] has joined #kubuntu [04:41] redguy, only this ? [04:41] apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and maybe a apt-get dist-upgrade as well [04:42] guilhermee: beware that breezy might not work as you would expect [04:43] maybe you just want kde 3.4.2 ? look at the topic [04:46] redguy, uhm... have still many bugs in Breezy ? [04:46] guilhermee: not sure, but a lot of people coming to #ubuntu and complaining [04:47] I hope it's full of bugs as it should, it won't be ready for release until October, so file bugs as you find them. [04:50] raphinou, you recommends keep my system in hoary yet ? [04:52] ops [04:52] redguy === _Jeevan is now known as Jeevan [04:55] if your first reaction to finding a bug is 'Great! got one' then Breezy is for you, if it's to complain then keep hoary .. updated :c) [04:58] pax_, ok, you convinced me to leave exactly with hoary. :D === dargo [n=dargo@245.Red-80-39-84.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === dabux [n=jburks@24-240-70-182.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === gdiebel [n=gdiebel@66-168-30-219.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [i=incubii@iBurst-034.isp.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === Glin|Jol [i=bobo@cpe-66-108-244-133.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@ppp-216-106-101-202.storm.ca] has joined #kubuntu === ndazza [n=dazza@203-173-18-16.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === dan2_ [i=dan@pdpc/supporter/professional/dan2] has joined #kubuntu === frogtone25 [n=frogtone@pcp01030724pcs.dothan01.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] how do you change the boot screen on kubuntu [06:44] can anyone answer that [06:46] the boot screen? [06:46] as in, the grub background image? === kpow3r [n=kpow3r@200-112-136-68.bbt.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu === kpow3r [n=kpow3r@200-112-136-68.bbt.net.ar] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:52] where do i find the grub background image [06:52] i want to change it [06:52] i have a boot screen package [06:52] and i need to know how to use it [06:54] someone spambotted the #ubuntu channel [06:55] hope that they dont come into here [06:55] i hope they dont === xbourvel [n=xbourvel@lns-vlq-35-bor-82-253-47-109.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:03] how do you change boot screens on here [07:03] === dazza [n=dazza@203-173-18-16.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === dhonn [n=dhonn@ip68-8-245-95.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === dhonn [n=dhonn@ip68-8-245-95.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === syahira2 [n=syahira2@222.124.76.226] has joined #kubuntu === syahira2 is now known as khanaya === VeloxS [n=xorlev@wsu195-111.ctelco.net] has joined #kubuntu === skalpel [i=skalpel@adsl-69-153-206-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:54] yohe kunu [07:54] how do i capture screen in kde? [07:55] there's a snapshot tool in the K menu === incubii [i=incubii@cor9-ppp1780.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === VeloxS is now known as Xorlev === Carson [i=Gadjet@CPE-60-226-247-207.sa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === dazza is now known as ndazza [08:16] Hmm, so I use that gtk2-engine thing, and it makes all my GTK apps look better (X-Chat, Gaim, etc.), and when I run Synaptic from command line (sudo synaptic) it looks great with the styles, but when I run it from the KMenu, it looks like a shitty ripoff of Windows 98. [08:17] Is it kdesu screwing up the styles? [08:17] Somehow. === yasser [n=yasser@59.93.163.227] has joined #kubuntu === yasser is now known as skyred === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu [08:32] Xorlev, hmm not here. works fine with sudo or kdesu [08:32] what wud happen if i update kaff+xine? [08:33] Xorlev, you running 3.4.2? [08:33] Yes [08:33] Its to do with kdesu not keeping my environment methinks. [08:36] Fixed...copied over some stuff to root. [08:38] Xorlev, yeah I think /root needs to have .gtkrc-2.0 from your ~ [08:38] It needed .qt as well. [08:39] I think I might add onto that one bash "first run" script [08:39] For KDE users [08:40] Add in gtk2-engine-gtk-qt, have it use the qt theme (which looks mostly like everything else does in Kubuntu), etc. [08:41] Gnome libs, Synaptic. === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-36-43.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [08:43] good idea, using the gtk-qt engine should be default for kubuntu, I mean even kubuntu users want to be able to run firefox, gimp, synaptic and have them look nice [08:43] Gaim also get a big improvement. [08:44] Before I found this package I resorted to a theme for FF and Thunderbird, which look pretty good. 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[10:07] you're not identified [10:11] hmm, how can i make me identified then? === spiral [n=spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:12] hi [10:12] filip_: /msg nickserv help === winnie_ [n=winnie@65.11.90.85.dyn.pero.cust.eefpowernet.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:18] i have write /msg nickserv help but what should i do then ? === filip_ [n=filip@s180h105hbby2.dyn.tyfon.se] has left #kubuntu ["Lmnar"] === grimse [n=grimse@p5481C964.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === Tazur [n=taz@p5091A481.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === VeloxS [n=xorlev@wsu195-111.ctelco.net] has joined #kubuntu === VeloxS is now known as Xorlev === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu === don [n=don@alf94-5-82-226-42-151.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:28] is there somebody out there?? [10:28] so bye! [10:29] hi. [10:29] hi! [10:29] Just a test with konversation on my new kubuntu!! [10:29] ah :) [10:29] hope you feel fine! [10:30] have a good day... [10:30] I do.. actually.. after 2 bottles of wine yesterday i feel much better than expected. [10:30] :) [10:31] :-) === Tazur [n=taz@p5091A481.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:31] (no debugging symbols found) [10:31] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1". [10:31] (no debugging symbols found) [10:31] `system-supplied DSO at 0xffffe000' has disappeared; keeping its symbols. [10:31] (no debugging symbols found) [10:31] (no debugging symbols found) [10:31] (no debugging symbols found) === don [n=don@alf94-5-82-226-42-151.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === don [n=don@alf94-5-82-226-42-151.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:32] How do i disable ALL sound in Kubuntu? >:P [10:32] I mean the system sounds :) [10:34] control center - sound and multimedia - system sounds (or something) - check the 'use on all applications' box.. and press the 'disable all' button. [10:36] Thanks [10:36] :) === rafy [n=rafy@84-72-82-22.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:45] What mediaplayer can display subtitleS? [10:45] mplayer? [10:46] Johnny-: could be, but xine should also [10:47] Johnny-: kaffeine under kde also === Samout [n=quesswho@r11.ip2.netikka.fi] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [10:49] hey i'm having a problem [10:50] i uninstalled my amarok but now i'd like to get it back [10:50] amarok: [10:50] Depends: amarok-arts but it is not going to be installed or [10:50] amarok-engines but it is not going to be installed or [10:50] amarok-engine [10:50] but when using symaptic i get the error: [10:51] *synaptic [10:51] there was a guide on ubuntuforums to make your own kernel debs. how would you go about making restricted modules deb for those kernel debs? [10:51] hussam: get the l-r-m source and compile it. [10:52] and when i try to install for example amarok-arts it says it depends on amarok [10:52] amarok-arts: [10:52] Depends: amarok but it is not going to be installed [10:53] so anyon know what could make this :D [10:54] it's like they all semm to depend on eachother but none of them gets installed [10:54] crimsun_: aren't those kernel specific? [10:55] hussam: of course [10:55] hussam: the source package isn't arch-specific, though [10:55] Samout: are you using backports? [10:56] yeah [10:56] i have them on my sources.list [10:56] crimsun_: I apt-get source what ? [10:56] samout: disable it, remove any amarok packages from your system, then install the version from Hoary [10:56] hussam: apt-get source linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r), of course [10:56] ok, thanks i'll try that:D [10:58] crimsun_: that's downloading the l-r-m source for kernel 2.6.10 My custom kernel is 2.6.12.5 [10:58] hey it works! [10:58] thanks a lot [10:58] hussam: you misunderstand how l-r-m is compiled [10:59] hussam: it's compiled against a specific set of kernel headers [10:59] so get the l-r-m source and compile it against your 2.6.12.5 headers [11:01] So if it is downloading linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10_2.6.10.5.orig.tar.gz, this will still compile against 2.6.12.5 headers? [11:01] perhaps with some minor tweaking, yes === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [11:05] crimsun_: if I just want the nvidia kernel module, I just do m-a a-i nvidia , right? === golanz [n=golan@85.116.131.5] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [n=incubii@61.68.52.39] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-16-194.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === wks04 [n=wks04@219.83.3.70] has joined #kubuntu === smux [n=smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Phantom^^ [n=john@82-71-19-153.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:42] anyone alive at this god forsaken hour ? === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === dargo [n=dargo@245.Red-80-39-84.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === peaker [n=peaker@bzq-179-142-248.pop.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] Phantom^^: god forsaken? 11am ? === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-16-194.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu [] === ralph [n=ralph@p54BF7E4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [n=spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] hehe nikkia [12:10] I'm trying to set up Kpgp [12:10] i mean KGpg === wincide [n=nomeansy@177.Red-83-57-134.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] I guess i'll have to take a crash course in encryption [12:13] damn i'm really starting to love linux and this apt-get thing is seriously cool === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === pv_ [n=pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu === golanz [n=golan@85.116.131.5] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === fromoze_away is now known as fromoze === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp198-121.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === winnie [n=winnie@34.8.90.85.dyn.pero.cust.eefpowernet.ch] has joined #kubuntu === hunger [n=tobias@p54A61D36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [12:38] my HDDs baffle me [12:38] what WAS my /home drive, was horribly slow, <5MB read speed when it was /home, now its a seperate drive just for downloads, i get 45-50MB/s sustained from it [12:39] granted, it shares a controller with one of my XP drives, but that shouldn't matter, its not like i'm constantly reading from the XP drives [12:45] lol [12:45] Phantom^^: ? [12:46] this is confusing me [12:46] so i encrypt a message with my private key [12:46] yes... [12:46] then the other dude can decrpt it with my public key ? [12:46] you missed an important part out of that :) [12:46] eek [12:46] you encrypt it with y our private key, and his/her public key [12:46] then they can decrypt with their private key, and your public key [12:46] ahh ok [12:47] rock on i see [12:47] when you see it in the context that a pair of public and private keys form the encryption key, it makes more sense :) [12:47] nikkia: That should be "your public key and his/her public key" I think. [12:47] hunger, no [12:47] hunger, you use your private key, they use their private key [12:48] if you could encrypt using 2 public keys, it would be a security no-win, as anyone can get your public key [12:48] nikkia: Ah.... you are refering to signing, not to "I want to be able to read the stuff I wrote again":-) [12:48] hunger, no, i'm referring to the gpg 'encryption/signing' system [12:48] if i encrypt a message, it uses my priv/their public [12:49] its the only way it could work, if i used my pub and their pub, you could download my pub key, and their pub key, and pretend to be me, or them [12:53] actually nikkia, if you encrypt with your private key, they can decrypt ONLY with your public key [12:53] Mez, yes, but they need their private key too [12:53] Mez, as their public key is used in the encryption process [12:53] nikkia, no [12:54] nikkia is right [12:54] nikkia, if you encrypt something, only the other of the keypair can decrypt it [12:54] if I want to send to them, I'd encrypt with their public key [12:54] mez, yes, but when you encrypt a message TO someone, their public key is used also [12:54] ONLY their private key is used [12:55] unless you sign the message aswell [12:55] public * [12:55] mez, thats not been my experience with gpg/pgp [12:55] if you encrypt with a public key, only the corresponding private key can decrypt === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] so, say I wanted to send nikkia an encypted email [12:56] I'd download nikkia's public keyt, znd then encrypt it with that [12:56] and then only nikkia would be able to decrypt it [12:56] using your priv / there public on the same email, enables you to see exactly who sent the message as they to the first decryption with their private then try the other keys they have and that can tell them who sent it. [12:57] cos if not it could be anyone sending them the message and it could be an "enemy" [12:57] however, then they have no authenticity fwho it si from so, usually it is SIGNED not encypted by tyhe senders private key [12:58] "signing" i basically adding a little bit at the end, which says, yes, this is what the message is meant to say, and It's from me. [12:58] I thought the idea was that you never let anyone know your private key even the frienlees we are sending the message [12:58] It uses certain alororithms to check whether the message matches, and then checks the signature with the persons public key [12:59] Phantom^^, you never do [12:59] Phantom: You don't hand out your private key, ever. [12:59] when you sign with your private key, it baiscally takes a "hash" of the message, and thenn "encyprts" that hash with your pricvate key [12:59] so if i send jim a message i encrypt with their public then sign with my private ... or i could not sign with my private but encrypt aswell ? === hettar [n=hettar@ppp113-236.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:00] the other person then decrypts that hash with your public key, and checks whether the hash is correct [01:00] if you wanted to send jim an encyrypted message, then you'd encrypt it with HIS public key [01:00] but sign it with you private key [01:00] ok [01:00] then, he can use HIS private key to decrypt it and YOUR public key to check the signature [01:01] Phantom^^: Usually you sign with your private key (so the other can check with your public key whether the message is indeed by you) and then encrypt with your and your recipients publc keys (so both you and the recipient can decrypt the message with their own private keys). [01:02] you dont need to encypt it twice" [01:02] there is NO POINT in doing that unless you like wasting CPU cycles [01:02] ahh ok so in KGpg where it has a option to sign key does that mean once i import his or her key into KGpg I sign it so when i encrpt with it, it is automatically signed ? [01:02] no [01:03] signing a KEY is saying that you have checked who the person is and are saying that that key is the valid key for them [01:03] say for example, in ubuntu, you need another dev to check your passport, and then sign the key you give them the fingerprint for in person [01:03] the meeting in person thing means that 1) you can verify they are who they say they are and 2) you know you've got the right key for that person to sig [01:04] hmm so say i encrpyt a message in KGpg how do i sign it with my praivate key asfter i have encrypted it [01:05] Phantom^^: No, signing a key is to mark it as trusted: You are basically saying when signing a key that you know the guy the key is from and are reasonably sure it is his key. [01:06] Phantom, get your meszage ,and go into kgpg, and select "sign/verify" [01:06] Phantom^^: With gpg there is no central authority that hands out keys to people after checking their ID... so you need a decentraliced mechanism of building up trust as well. [01:06] then, enter your passphrase, and you will be presented with a signed version of that [01:06] ok back up a sec before you said when i send jim a message i encrypt with their public key, but i also sign with my private key to tell them its me when they recieve the message? === _P_ [n=princosc@host-84-220-139-67.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #kubuntu ["Hello,] [01:06] yes === kainos [n=kainos@210.213.151.251] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] btw - #gnupg is probably a better place for this discussion [01:07] k [01:08] so in KGpg i encrpy the email or document or whatever with his public then sign/ verify with my private === kainos is now known as katrina [01:09] help on fax [01:10] i am strying to send fax using commandline sendfax -n -d 2553334 /etc/passwd but wen i pass my passwd it always says 530 login incorrect === incubii [n=incubii@61.68.52.39] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:11] but i already changed my privileges to fax n faxmanager to enabled === incubii [n=incubii@61.68.52.39] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] can anybody here help? [01:20] may fax? === frans-th [n=frans@202.73.108.220] has joined #kubuntu === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === _timo [n=timo@dsl-kpogw6i59.dial.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu === ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-135-82.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu === JensK [n=JensK@p549031B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] sorry katrina never used that program before === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === eggi_ [n=einstein@dsl-084-059-194-074.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === tenco [n=tenco@p549A53AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc3-lich4-3-0-cust227.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu === jpatrick [n=patrick@15.Red-83-39-156.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === MrPoke [n=athul@67.109.209.66.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #kubuntu === hunger_ [n=tobias@p54A61D36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu === Paradoxx [n=matthewm@port0190-abj-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #Kubuntu [02:12] do I do 'make upgrade' to upgrade a program from source? === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-227.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu === martin [n=martin@h143220.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu [02:16] Question: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong? === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-20-177.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] martin: do you have the lastest KDE? [02:18] jpatrick: As far as hoary has the latest; yes [02:19] :/ === KaiL [i=kl@p548F719B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-20-177.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === martin is now known as _martin_ === frans-th [n=frans@202.73.108.220] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:23] <_martin_> any idea? [02:25]