[12:11] <jbailey> How does suspend to disk and encrypted swap interact?
[12:11] <jbailey> I'm just looking at the cryptroot stuff now for initramfs.
[12:13] <Mithrandir> jbailey: if encrypted swap as in "random key"?  Very badly, I'd imagine
[12:13] <jbailey> Mithrandir: Well, I'm more thinking, does it actually run the suspend through the encryption layer?
[12:13] <infinity> Why should it be a problem at all?.. Isn't encrypted swpa supposed to be cleared on reboot anyway?
[12:13] <Mithrandir> probably, and fails to resume.
[12:13] <infinity> jbailey : I should hope not.
[12:14] <jbailey> infinity: Why?  Encrypted suspend might be nice.
[12:14] <Mithrandir> jbailey: you can't do it unless you have non-random keys, though.
[12:14] <jbailey> Right.
[12:14] <jbailey> It would have to be the same key as your root filesystem or something.
[12:18] <infinity> Yeah, which would work fine, but encrypted swap doesn't do that.
[12:19] <infinity> So, "running suspend through the encrypted swap layer" would be Very Bad.
[12:19] <infinity> But having your suspend match your encrypted /, if you have one, would be a slick feature.
[12:22] <jbailey> Mm.  /me imagines the last message on your screen before it goes black: "BTW: Your key this session is asdfjkl91234yadsflh''1
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[12:24] <jbailey> g'n Tollef
[06:49] <zul> heylo
[06:53] <Mithrandir> heyhi
[06:54] <zul> how is it going Mithrandir 
[06:54] <Mithrandir> good
[06:54] <Mithrandir> on my way out the door to a party, just had dinner.
[06:55] <zul> cool..
[06:55] <Mithrandir> attended a wedding earlier today (for my fiancee's cousin or something)
[06:57] <zul> neet...i had a poker night last night
[07:05] <slomo> BenC_: are you there? i have a problem with initramfs on ppc
[07:05] <slomo> BenC_: jbailey told me to talk to you ;)
[07:06] <jbailey> BenC_: He's getting a compressed ram imagei recognised note, and then a kernel crash, no messages in between.
[07:06] <jbailey> BenC_: I'm hoping you can give him something to get more debug info out of the kernel without me having him rebuild with a pile of printk's.
[07:07] <jbailey> I would've expected a failure message of some sort saying *why* it's not able to go on.
[07:07] <slomo> BenC_: and the kernel panic tells something about unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[07:08] <jbailey> slomo: Hmm, humour me a sec - You can unpack the initramfs the same way we did the other one, yes?
[07:09] <slomo> jbailey: sure... just wait for the rescue system to boot again
[07:11] <slomo> jbailey: does the rescue system also use initramfs or something else?
[07:12] <slomo> jbailey: what was the command to unpack the initrd? any parameters to cpio?
[07:13] <BenC_> hmm
[07:13] <slomo> jbailey: any other than -i
[07:13] <BenC_> is that the bug I just got this morning?
[07:13] <slomo> BenC_: i had this bug since maybe 2 weeks ;)
[07:14] <BenC_> I'm on ppc (G4) and not seeing that message
[07:14] <BenC_> not saying you don't have the problem, just that I can't reproduce it
[07:15] <BenC_> what kernel?
[07:15] <slomo> 2.6.12-7-powerpc (on an ibook g4)
[07:15] <BenC_> ok, I haven't booted to 2.6.12-7 yet
[07:15] <BenC_> maybe I should try that
[07:15] <BenC_> do you still have 2.6.12-6?
[07:16] <slomo> nope... i tried to install from the daily iso from yesterday... with the hope to fix the bug ;)
[07:17] <BenC_> did you try booting back to 2.6.12-6 afterwards?
[07:17] <BenC_> before doing a re-install
[07:18] <slomo> yes... same problem... iirc only rebooting to -3 worked but this used a much older initrd (i believe without initramfs)
[07:22] <slomo> jbailey: anything i can look for in the unpacked initrd?
[07:26] <zul> yay...external-drivers-net-sk98lin-vendor-support_wacky-syskonnect.dpatch
[07:57] <BenC_> slomo: but did 2.6.12-6 work before upgrading?
[07:58] <zul> bbl
[07:58] <slomo> BenC: sorry... i don't really remember :(
[07:59] <BenC> that's important
[07:59] <BenC> sounds to me like a bug in yaboot or initramfs
[07:59] <BenC> I'll reboot in a few minutes
[08:00] <slomo> thanks... and i try to remember... but as my memory isn't the best don't expect too much :/
[08:01] <jbailey> slomo: Sorry, had wandered off.
[08:02] <jbailey> (Guests showed up)
[08:02] <slomo> jbailey: np :)
[09:08] <BenC> yeah
[09:08] <BenC> 2.6.12-7 works for me
[09:08] <BenC> only thing I can guess is your initramfs
[09:08] <BenC> which would be mkinitrd's fault, I would think
[09:45] <slomo> mkinitramfs... well, i'll retest with 0.24 later... i'm currently downloading the daily install iso from today, maybe that works