[12:00] <nicholaspaul> CookedGryphon - thats BS !
[12:00] <cafuego> nicholaspaul: ... first step to restarting X.
[12:00] <misfit_toy> eamonn, I guess that's true I could just send her to disney.com or something...but yes ompaul I would like it to be semi-educational
[12:00] <nicholaspaul> heheheh cafuego
[12:01] <nicholaspaul> CookedGryphon I would say anything P2/P3 and up would be fine for Ubunut.
[12:01] <nicholaspaul> or Ubuntu
[12:01] <misfit_toy> ompaul, do you know the package name for debian educational games? or is it a one by one thing?
[12:01] <ompaul> misfit_toy, also www.squeakland.org <-- a little messy to setup after you do the obvious dpkg -i the two packages it needs a bundle of updates but then it was great
[12:01] <ak007> where do i save the repos file source.lst?
[12:01] <oblib> Question: I updated my kernel and now my nvidia drivers don't work. Is there an easy way to get that working again?
[12:01] <Jowi> CookedGryphon: looks fine at first glance. S3 graphics (driver is in xorg already). Realtech ac'97 audio should be fine as well.
[12:01] <misfit_toy> ompaul, thanks I'll give it a try
[12:01] <lexmark> btw jowi, is there another way to install debian packages?
[12:01] <ompaul> misfit_toy, gcompris
[12:01] <ompaul> misfit_toy, gcompris <-- is the package
[12:01] <misfit_toy> ompaul, cool! thx
[12:02] <misfit_toy> all my kids are now running ubuntu
[12:02] <misfit_toy> 2 boys, one girl
[12:02] <ompaul> misfit_toy, apt-cache search education
[12:02] <RichardP> misfit_toy: what arch are your kids?
[12:02] <lenny_> ok... I'll throw this out here again.
[12:02] <ompaul> RichardP, X86
[12:02] <RichardP> misfit_toy: did you get them from Dell?
[12:02] <Jowi> lexmark: yes, with aptitude. aptitude install filename.deb should work
[12:02] <misfit_toy> RichardP, 8, 5, 3
[12:02] <nalioth> cafuego_: your pet is AFU
[12:02] <cafuego> what is wrong with you, why are you BREEDING!
[12:02] <lexmark> do I run it from the root jowi?
[12:02] <nicholaspaul> i have a cold, cafuego, i cant breed.
[12:02] <RichardP> cafuego: Linux usage has to go up somehow!
[12:03] <cafuego> nalioth: did you wreck it?
[12:03] <Jowi> lexmark: all package installations need root/sudo, yes.
[12:03] <Mez> o_O
[12:03] <Mez> why are people sending me blankness
[12:03] <cafuego> !test
[12:03] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:03] <lexmark> cool, let me try that
[12:03] <cafuego> !test
[12:03] <TTilus> cafuego: people actually do that, geeks too
[12:03] <Jowi> Mez: there is a scriptkiddie running amok
[12:03] <cafuego> TTilus: it's WRONG
[12:03] <ak007> where do i copy the file file that contains repos for synaptic?
[12:03] <ompaul> Mez, /mode mez +e
[12:03] <TTilus> cafuego: how come?
[12:03] <cafuego> +CE
[12:03] <eamonn> Mez, happening to everyone. Turn off Auto Open Dialog Windows
[12:03] <ompaul> whats with the C cafuego ?
[12:03] <cafuego> TTilus: chidren are annoying
[12:03] <Mez> I already am +e
[12:04] <misfit_toy> cafuego, go talk to your parents
[12:04] <lenny_> I am trying to add java path to the system wide profile.  I edited the /etc/profile file in order to accomplish this.  The path line in it now is:   PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_04/bin"
[12:04] <lenny_> .   However:  Nothing seems to happend.  What did I do wrong?  (I asked this once or twice before)
[12:04] <cafuego> ompaul: ctcp as well
[12:04] <nicholaspaul> cafuego...thats what your parents said ;) hehehe
[12:04] <cafuego> ompaul: note UPPERCASE
[12:04] <ompaul> cafuego, doh!
[12:04] <cafuego> nicholaspaul: No, that's what me & my wife say
[12:04] <TTilus> cafuego: you think children are annoying and that's why breeding is generally taken wrong?
[12:04] <cafuego> TTilus: Indeed.
[12:04] <TTilus> cafuego: does word 'logic' sound familiar to you?  :)
[12:05] <cafuego> TTilus: Well, people can breed, as long as they keep the spawn out of public places
[12:05] <nalioth> Mez: set yourself +E
[12:05] <nicholaspaul> ok cafuego;) heheh
[12:05] <Jowi> cafuego: please stop making horrorstories. i have first one coming in 6,5 month :-/ Scary stuff
[12:05] <cafuego> TTilus: Do a google for "Society for voluntary human extinction"
[12:05] <nicholaspaul> haha Jowi... its all good, dont worry. Your own kids are better than other peoples
[12:05] <nalioth> anyone know where to get the "human" ubuntu calendars?
[12:06] <TTilus> cafuego: doya know Pentti Linkola?
[12:06] <TTilus> (about that extinction)
[12:06] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: haha,i sure hope! the thing i hate most in the whole world is peoples kids screaming non-stop on the bus - especially if my mp3 is out of batteries. drives me nuts :-D
[12:06] <Drewfus> daaku i think i got it mounted but i dont see it, it just says i have all the free space
[12:06] <vader1102> if it is someone else's kid you can send them back when bad, if you're own, you stuck... I have a 10 year old trust me lol
[12:06] <cafuego> TTilus: he's old enough to be soylent green now
[12:06] <Drewfus> daaku how can i have it mount like a cd drive where i see it on the desktop
[12:06] <reiki> how do I totally refresh my gnome desktop without logging out and back in? I can't find the  command and I could swear I've seen it somewhere
[12:07] <ofer> i installed windows xp (i need ASP for my brother), and it probably overwrited my MBR. how do i get grub back?
[12:07] <TTilus> cafuego: softened indeed
[12:07] <nicholaspaul> dont worry jowi.. my kids never did that. They knew what was good for them;) heehee
[12:07] <reiki> and I have some wonky graphics thing going on since I woke up the machine :)
[12:07] <lenny_> reiki:  I *THINK* (I am a n00b :) ) you can do /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:07] <pv_> By the way, where is lndir in Breezy?
[12:08] <luser> killall gnome-panel
[12:08] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: you tricked them with icecream?
[12:08] <nalioth> ofer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:08] <TTilus> Jowi: you'll get used to it, and your own kids screaming sounds _a lot_ better than others doing the same  :)
[12:08] <ofer> thank you nalioth
[12:08] <nicholaspaul> jowi bribed them with their lives!
[12:08] <shamus> does anyone know how to make a .torrent file with bittorrent?
[12:08] <nicholaspaul> true TTlius
[12:08] <cafuego> !forums
[12:08] <dalamar> how can i prevent the cd/dvd writer window opening when I insert a blank dvd/cd in gnome?
[12:08] <cafuego> !guide
[12:08] <ubotu> cafuego: Are you on ritalin?
[12:08] <cafuego> ubotu: no, but i think YOU are
[12:08] <ubotu> cafuego: Not a clue
[12:09] <daaku> Drewfus: i dont have a fully working system in front of me right now, but a simple symbolic link might work.
[12:09] <nicholaspaul> lol ubotu
[12:09] <luser> well thank you all for the help
[12:09] <ak007> how do i set my proxy that the update manager use it
[12:09] <ompaul> !ubotu
[12:09] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:09] <misfit_toy> trolls...sheesh
[12:09] <Drewfus> daaku thanks
[12:09] <Jowi> TTilus, nicholaspaul: sounds great. actually, i can't wait :-)
[12:09] <TTilus> Jowi: you're wellcome  :)
[12:09] <ttyS0> !kde localization
[12:09] <ubotu> Wish i knew, ttyS0
[12:09] <lexmark> btw jowi, can tell me the command to change the directory to /home/lexmark/Desktop
[12:09] <nalioth> cafuego: paying attention, or are you near broke?
[12:09] <nicholaspaul> Good for you TTilus :) personally, i think my kids are the best in the world - but then other people tell me how great they are too - I'm very proud :D
[12:09] <lexmark> from the terminal root
[12:09] <ak007> how do i set my update manager proxy?
[12:10] <Jowi> lexmark: cd /home/lexmark/Desktop
[12:10] <inva|id> lexmark: cd /home/lexmark/Desktop
[12:10] <daaku> Drewfus: in the Desktop directory, try 'ln -s /mnt/otherdrive .'
[12:10] <reiki> ack... it reloaded with the same wonkyness... back in a bit
[12:10] <cafuego> nalioth: Just checking the DB, which seems fine..
[12:10] <lexmark> cool, almost similar to dos :)
[12:10] <misfit_toy> ompaul, cool, gcompris is perfect!
[12:10] <misfit_toy> thx
[12:10] <ak007> anyone wana help me?
[12:11] <ekimus> anyone can recommend me some eye candy desklets (useless ones are preferred :)
[12:11] <oblib> Question: I updated my kernel and now my nvidia drivers don't work. Is there an easy way to get that working again?
[12:11] <nicholaspaul> ok ak007 , wassup?
[12:11] <nalioth> cafuego: was tryin to send some1 the 'ubuntuguide' factoid, and the overweight glob of grease feigned ignorance
[12:11] <ompaul> misfit_toy, no worries, the fee is you help others here :-)
[12:11] <ak007> how do i configure my update manager proxy?
[12:11] <misfit_toy> ompaul, been doing that for years, just not in #ubuntu! lol
[12:11] <nalioth> anyone know where to get the "human" ubuntu calendars?
[12:11] <nicholaspaul> :| i dont knw.. i'm sorry... Are you reg. with the foum?
[12:11] <misfit_toy> ompaul, thx again, she's already entranced.
[12:11] <ak007> cuz i can't browse without proxy
[12:11] <nicholaspaul> oops.. i mean, ak007 i dunno - are you reg. with the forum?
[12:12] <ompaul> misfit_toy, well I did say 'here' :D
[12:12] <ak007> nope
[12:12] <cafuego> nalioth: It's certainly in the DB. Just weird.
[12:12] <pfp> ak007: maybe set http_proxy="http://proxy.foo.com:8080/" ?
[12:12] <cafuego> ubotu: your time has come
[12:13] <Seveas> hehe
[12:13] <ubuntu> hi
[12:13] <Seveas> what's up with him?
[12:13] <nicholaspaul> ak007 - Best thing when youre starting out with ubuntu is to search for stuff on www.ubuntuforums.org - you'll find almost everything you need there. And you'll learn stuff on the way too :)
[12:13] <ubuntu> hello
[12:13] <cafuego> Seveas: severe brain damage
[12:13] <nalioth> cafuego: don't whip em too hard, dust buildup, ya know
[12:13] <Seveas> ouch
[12:13] <reiki> dain bramage
[12:13] <nicholaspaul> ak007: if you search first, then post, you'll find your answer :D
[12:13] <pfp> poor ubotu :'(
[12:13] <nalioth> Seveas: good eve
[12:13] <Seveas> he worked fine a few sec.s ago
[12:14] <_frank_> ak007: for help, check the wiki as well
[12:14] <cafuego> Seveas: No, he's claiming certain factoids don't exist; they are in the DB, but have STRANGE meta-info
[12:14] <nalioth> Seveas: ubotu was feigning ignorance of common factoids (when i tried to enlighten folks)
[12:14] <misfit_toy> man, there's a wacked out bot in #fedora that opens xchat tabs all over the place....they can't fix it...
[12:14] <nalioth> misfit_toy: its a clone attack and it seems to be fixed in here
[12:14] <cafuego> misfit_toy: Fix your client; duh.
[12:14] <nalioth> misfit_toy: it was freenode-wide at its beginning
[12:14] <lJlolel> how do i rip a dvd?
[12:14] <misfit_toy> cafuego, talk to your parents
[12:14] <oblib> any ideas as to why I can't mount DVDs if 'nohide' is set in fstab?
[12:14] <nalioth> lJlolel: dvdrip
[12:15] <cafuego> misfit_toy: No, they can talk to the hand
[12:15] <Seveas> misfit_toy: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[12:15] <lJlolel> nalioth, it says it depends on transcode which isn't in my sources
[12:15] <hypn0> nyone have a quickcam pro 4000, i been thinking ot getting one
[12:15] <nalioth> lJlolel: ah. well good luck (transcode seems to be the holy grail of ubuntu)
[12:15] <nalioth> lJlolel: then again, seveas may be of help
[12:15] <Seveas> lJlolel, -> seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:15] <misfit_toy> Seveas you might want to remind cafuego of that, not me.
[12:15] <lexmark> cool jowi, I think I managed to install it successfully... however, it says i would need to go to Run /usr/bin/ymessenger from X Window to launch the application
[12:16] <cafuego> nalioth: ere he comes
[12:16] <lexmark> any idea what that is in ubuntu?
[12:16] <ompaul> lexmark, lots of the best stuff you can get
[12:16] <Jowi> lexmark: just type it into a terminal (NOT root)
[12:16] <nalioth> lexmark: click "applications" > "run application" and type ymessenger in the blank
[12:16] <brownie17> hey everyone
[12:16] <Seveas> ubotu, yes
[12:16] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, seveas?
[12:16] <brownie17> i have a technical problem
[12:16] <brownie17> can anyone hlep me
[12:16] <lJlolel> why isnt trnascode in the normal repository?
[12:16] <Jowi> wb ubotu
[12:17] <Seveas> brownie17, not unless you tell us what the problem is
[12:17] <Seveas> ompaul -> aptitude >> dselect
[12:17] <Seveas> lJlolel, it is in breezy now
[12:17] <brownie17> for some reason i cannot boot from my second hard disk
[12:17] <Seveas> brownie17, ok, be a bit more descriptive...
[12:17] <brownie17> when i try to run ubuntu with multi os's, it comes up with GRUN error 21
[12:17] <lJlolel> oh, weird it's not in backports either
[12:17] <Seveas> lJlolel, -> seveas.ubuntulinux.nl <--
[12:17] <lexmark> cool I'll try that
[12:18] <ompaul> Seveas, yeah, but there is the fun factor some tomes
[12:18] <ompaul> Seveas, *times
[12:18] <brownie17> GRUB* not GRUN
[12:18] <phil_> how can I run Microsoft Windows applications on my Ubuntu?
[12:18] <Seveas> phil_, wine might help
[12:18] <nicholaspaul> phil_ oo oo i know this one.. hangone.
[12:18] <ompaul> phil_, have a look at wine
[12:18] <brownie17> SEVEAS, i think there is a problem with my second hard disk. i cannot boot from it.
[12:18] <nicholaspaul> hangon, i mean
[12:19] <inva|id> phil_: wine
[12:19] <shamus> phil_, there's wine or cedega
[12:19] <Seveas> brownie17, looking at the error, sec...
[12:19] <shamus> but neither work well enough to rely upon
[12:19] <nicholaspaul> phil_ try www.win4lin.com
[12:19] <oblib> www.winehq.com
[12:19] <oblib> for phil
[12:20] <Seveas> brownie17, check your grub config -- error 21 means disk does not exist
[12:20] <nicholaspaul> i'm looking for a network interface setup gui :( anyone? i want to sudo aptget it for my xfce system...
[12:20] <brownie17> but it does
[12:20] <brownie17> how do i edit my GRUB config
[12:20] <brownie17> Seveas, at the very least, i want to remove it from the master boot record
[12:20] <brownie17> seveas, i cannot run any os except the live version, without fixing this problem
[12:21] <Jowi> brownie17: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:21] <cafuego> !tell nalioth about ubuntuguide
[12:21] <Drewfus> how can i make something shared over my network?
[12:21] <Seveas> Drewfus, install samba
[12:21] <cafuego> !goo'boy
[12:21] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[12:21] <Drewfus> ok
[12:21] <nicholaspaul> yea, drewfus, go thru the starter guide.
[12:21] <ompaul> !botsnack
[12:21] <ubotu> :)
[12:21] <nicholaspaul> It works great
[12:21] <oblib> any ideas as to why I can't mount DVDs if 'nohide' is set in fstab?
[12:21] <brownie17> "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" is this a directory on my hard drive?
[12:21] <Drewfus> wheres the starter guide?
[12:22] <cafuego> brownie17: No, it's a command that would edit a file as root using the nano text editor.
[12:22] <nalioth> Drewfus: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[12:22] <Drewfus> thanks
[12:22] <oblib> Drewfus: www.ubuntuguide.com is pretty good to
[12:22] <Seveas> oblib, no it's not
[12:22] <nicholaspaul> drewfus, thats the one i meant. It should be the home page on your Brand New Browser.
[12:22] <Seveas> !tell oblib about ubuntuguide
[12:22] <cafuego> oblib: Only for monkeys
[12:22] <Zugwrack> anyone answer a simple question about phpmyadmin? should not http://localhost/directory_name/ work to fire it up? I have php enabled in the httpd.conf file for apache?
[12:22] <lJlolel> anytime i run a gui based on Qt, the letters are skinny and pushed together, barely readable
[12:23] <nicholaspaul> cafuego: i like bananas
[12:23] <Jowi> brownie17: sudo (admin) nano (texteditor) /boot/grub/(directory)menu.lst(grub boot menu file)
[12:23] <Drewfus> is there any way i can share with windows computers?
[12:23] <nalioth> oblib: please, dude, no open advising of the 'guide
[12:23] <Seveas> Drewfus, install samba <---
[12:23] <Jsl> IF anybody knows....How do i add an account for a different user in proftp? I looked for help for days
[12:23] <oblib> ?  okay . . .
[12:23] <Drewfus> that allows windows sharing?
[12:23] <nalioth> Drewfus: samba
[12:23] <brownie17> JOWI, i do not follow, i am a complete newbie
[12:23] <Drewfus> thanks
[12:23] <Seveas> Drewfus, apt-get install samba swat
[12:24] <Seveas> enable the root password and the swat deamon
[12:24] <avanspronsen> !samba
[12:24] <ubotu> somebody said samba was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:24] <nicholaspaul> drewfus. i have samba installed and share quite happily with windows. Works great :)
[12:24] <Drewfus> ok thanks
[12:24] <Jsl> !i
[12:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Jsl
[12:24] <Jsl> !samba
[12:24] <ubotu> [samba]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:24] <Jowi> brownie17: nano is a texteditor. to edit your grub boot file (the one you see at startup of your computer) run the following command: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst - that was what you asked for.
[12:24] <Jsl> !pop
[12:24] <ubotu> Jsl: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:25] <Seveas> Jsl, don't play with the bot.
[12:25] <brownie17> Jowi, where do i get nano
[12:25] <brownie17> where do i run the command
[12:25] <Jsl> i wondered why i saw people doing that
[12:25] <brownie17> i am confused
[12:25] <lJlolel> brownie17, terminal
[12:25] <Jowi> brownie17: do you have Ubuntu installed on your PC?
[12:25] <Zugwrack> brownie17: From the console is where you type the command
[12:26] <eamonn> brownie17, right click on the desktop and choose terminal.
[12:26] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> How do I mount a floppy?
[12:26] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[12:26] <CookdGryphon> i was gna say that
[12:26] <brownie17> JOWI, i have it installed, but cannot boot from it. i am using the live cd
[12:26] <Jowi> sorry CookdGryphon
[12:26] <Zugwrack> Crys: Ummmm... mount /dev/floppy /mountpoint
[12:26] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Thanks so much
[12:26] <CookdGryphon> lol its ok, u win
[12:27] <CookdGryphon> eh, i jstu wuit
[12:27] <CookdGryphon> quit*
[12:27] <CookdGryphon> odd
[12:27] <Seveas> that was the old you :)
[12:27] <shamus> how can I uninstall all the sun java stuff on my computer? decaf said i'm gogin to need to do that before i can get azureus working
[12:27] <lJlolel> does anybody know why the fonts are all unreadable in some gui frontends?
[12:28] <Seveas> shamus, just apt-get remove it...
[12:28] <brownie17> Jowi, i went to the Grub editor thing, but there is no text in the document, just a header and the keyboard shortcuts
[12:28] <oblib> any ideas as to why I can't mount DVDs if 'nohide' is set in fstab?
[12:28] <Jowi> brownie17: ahhhhh, that makes sence. hmmm.. makes it a tad more complex.
[12:28] <Seveas> cafuego, possibly...
[12:28] <shamus> Seveas, I didn't use apt-get to install it
[12:28] <Seveas> shamus, then that's a problem.
[12:28] <shamus> indeed
[12:28] <pfp> lJlolel: what guis, GTK-1? (eg. xmms)
[12:28] <zerboxx> If I want to set up a network with windows computer (and share folders) do I need samba?
[12:29] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu # mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[12:29] <CrysCrysCrysCrys>  like that?
[12:29] <lJlolel> pfp, right now, in dvdrip, but this happens in all Qt-based guis (ithink) i'm in
[12:29] <eamonn> zerboxx, yes.
[12:29] <brownie17> Jowi, can we do a private chat, where there are not lots of other people?
[12:29] <Jowi> Seveas: do you have a quickfix for brownie17 grub problem ?
[12:29] <Seveas> zerboxx, if you want to access files easily from lin to win, then ye
[12:29] <inva|id> CrysCrysCrysCrys: use sudo infront of it
[12:29] <nalioth> anyone know where to get the "human" ubuntu calendars?
[12:29] <zerboxx> Seveas, eamonn: Then I'm having a prroblem installing samba
[12:29] <LinuxJones> zerboxx, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba
[12:29] <Seveas> zerboxx, the problem being?
[12:29] <cafuego> inva|id: Why? He's in a root shell.
[12:29] <inva|id> cafuego: yeah i missed that
[12:29] <Seveas> brownie17, sis you mount your ubuntu partition already?
[12:29] <inva|id> cafuego: saw it after I sent the message
[12:30] <cafuego> :-)
[12:30] <eamonn> zerboxx, did "sudo apt-get install samba" not work? Or via Synaptic?
[12:30] <zerboxx> eamonn: neither
[12:30] <brownie17> Seveas, what do you mean by mounting it? it is a "primary" partition i think.
[12:30] <eamonn> zerboxx, what happened? Any messages displayed?
[12:30] <zerboxx> Seveas, LinuxJones, eamonn: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1646
[12:30] <oblib> where is the file that lists the installed apt-get programs?
[12:31] <pfp> lJlolel: dvd::rip is a gtk gui, not qt, there's a trivial fix for that...
[12:31] <shamus> Does anyone know of a bittorrent client that i can make torrents with besides Azureus?
[12:31] <Seveas> brownie17, paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on the pastebin
[12:31] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I did that floppy mounty thingy in the root, and it didn't pass anything back
[12:31] <lJlolel> pfp, oh, gtk then, why is this happening and what can i do?
[12:31] <Seveas> zerboxx, disable backports crud
[12:31] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: no error = success
[12:31] <brownie17> Seveas, i do not follow
[12:31] <eamonn> zerboxx, oh, dear. You have backport problems.
[12:31] <pfp> lJlolel: i'm looking for the page :)
[12:31] <zerboxx> Seveas: how do I do that?
[12:32] <Seveas> brownie17, open a terminal and type: sudo fdisk -l
[12:32] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> jowi how about no result?
[12:32] <cafuego> oblib: 'dpkg -l'
[12:32] <Seveas> paste the result on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:32] <brownie17> Seveas, where pastebin?
[12:32] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys: does cd /media/floppy give you anything
[12:32] <zerboxx> Seveas: via terminal, not general ubuntu menus :)
[12:32] <Seveas> zerboxx, same way you enabled it...
[12:32] <brownie17> Disk /dev/sda: 519 MB, 519569408 bytes
[12:32] <brownie17> 129 heads, 32 sectors/track, 245 cylinders
[12:32] <brownie17> Units = cylinders of 4128 * 512 = 2113536 bytes
[12:32] <brownie17>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:32] <brownie17> /dev/sda1               1         246      507376    4  FAT16 <32M
[12:32] <brownie17> Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
[12:32] <Seveas> .csop
[12:32] <brownie17>      phys=(249, 128, 32) logical=(245, 106, 32)
[12:32] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: cd /media/floppy should take you to your floppy
[12:32] <brownie17> Disk /dev/hda: 8622 MB, 8622931968 bytes
[12:32] <Seveas> ON THE PASTEBIN FOOL!
[12:32] <oblib> thanks cafuego
[12:32] <LinuxJones> heh
[12:32] <cafuego> omg! Seveas is Mr. T!
[12:32] <Jowi> lol
[12:32] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> No such directory
[12:33] <lJlolel> who are these random people messaging me with no text?
[12:33] <lexmark> jowi, can you give that info to me one more time.... about chaging dir in root to the desktop?
[12:33] <Seveas> in fact, i need 100 of'em :)
[12:33] <cafuego> Seveas: no, you don't foo' me
[12:33] <Jowi> lexmark: cd /home/lexmark/Desktop ?
[12:33] <lexmark> thanx again
[12:33] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> can I mount it to the desktop?
[12:33] <Juhaz> lJlolel, freenode is under spambot attack
[12:34] <lJlolel> for what purpose?
[12:34] <Seveas> it's odd, i'm not on +E but get no private message spam
[12:34] <dpowers> is there an unstable version that i should know about?
[12:34] <Seveas> spammers don't like me :D
[12:34] <Juhaz> haven't got any spam either
[12:34] <cafuego> lJlolel: /mode lJlolel +CE
[12:34] <dpowers> and a webpage that details some of that info?
[12:34] <Jowi> Seveas: it's respect after that banning business :-)
[12:34] <zerboxx> Seveas: Same problem
[12:34] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys: do you know how to look at /etc/fstab? that will tell you where the system expects the floppy to go
[12:34] <cafuego> Seveas: they probably scan on-join
[12:34] <Xorlev> lJlolel: Sometimes there is no purpose.
[12:34] <dalamar> how can i prevent the cd/dvd writer window opening when I insert a blank dvd/cd in gnome? I've lookedthrough the wiki and can't seem to find anything
[12:34] <Seveas> zerboxx, apt-get update
[12:34] <zerboxx> Seveas: did that
[12:35] <Seveas> zerboxx, aptitude purge samba-common
[12:35] <mjr> dalamar, volume properties from desktop preferences
[12:35] <dpowers> right now, i have the community maintained universe updates
[12:35] <dpowers> is that the most unstable?
[12:35] <Seveas> no dpowers
[12:35] <cafuego> lJlolel: it's probably a gentoo user who got told they were an idiot for running gentoo. They soemtimes somehow take that completely the wrong way and react like this. Pointless. Wasteful. Sad.
[12:35] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, I am running from the live cd.
[12:35] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: your floppy should be present in /etc/fstab. make sure it is first of all.
[12:36] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: ah
[12:36] <dpowers> Seveas, what do I need to look for
[12:36] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Jowi, I wanted to make sure my floppy is connected correctly, cuz windows won't use it.
[12:36] <lJlolel> weird
[12:36] <ak007> ive choosed all kde related packages but it giveing me error that the following packages have u resolvable dependicies....
[12:36] <cafuego> lJlolel: OR it's supposed to spam you with a porn url, but badly configured (spammers aren't smart)
[12:36] <ak007> and also added  all the resop
[12:37] <Jowi> brownie17: when someone asks you to use pastebin to make sure you don't flood the channel. do it. paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:37] <cafuego> ak007: choose 'kubuntu-desktop', install.
[12:37] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> what is +CE?
[12:37] <Seveas> CrysCrysCrysCrys, it keeps you spam-free :)
[12:37] <pfp> lJlolel: http://pastebin.com/347243 - if that doesn't help, search the forums/wiki for "gtk1 font" or "gtk font" etc
[12:37] <cafuego> CrysCrysCrysCrys: It's how us identified users can block messages and ctcps from you, unregistered ones.
[12:38] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> mount: can't find dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:38] <Seveas> CrysCrysCrysCrys, /dev/fd0
[12:38] <nalioth> anyone know where to get the "human" ubuntu calendars?
[12:38] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I think I figured out why I cant mount it.
[12:38] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Oh.
[12:38] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> nm
[12:38] <lJlolel> nalioth, whats a human ubuntu calendar?
[12:38] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: ls -la /dev/fd0
[12:38] <cafuego> nalioth: just the pics? or paper?
[12:38] <Seveas> nalioth, ubuntu-calendar-{october,november,december} etc..
[12:38] <xcore> hey people.... on ubuntu 5.04, in the cups, i dont know the admin pass of cups... exist any default pass?
[12:38] <Seveas> xcore, adduser cupsys shadow
[12:39] <Seveas> then do what you need to do
[12:39] <Seveas> and remove cupsys from shadow again
[12:39] <oblib> has anyone tried compiling winex in Ubuntu?
[12:39] <xcore> thanks Seveas
[12:39] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> brw-rw----  1 root floppy 2, 0 2005-08-26 18:18 /dev/fd0
[12:39] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> What does that mean?
[12:40] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: that means that the floppy is at least detected even if it is not set up in fstab
[12:40] <cafuego> CrysCrysCrysCrys: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /floppy
[12:40] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib I went on that trek, there's a wine package in synaptic
[12:40] <cafuego> CrysCrysCrysCrys: (that assumes /floppy is an existing directory)
[12:40] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I don't know if that is the one you want
[12:40] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys it's no good for games though
[12:41] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Okay, lemme know if you find the answer. I need the one you want too.
[12:41] <ak007> ive configured dual boot windows+ubuntu how do i access my windows files? on other distos it was mnt/windows
[12:41] <tuxlifan> Why on earth does /etc/profiles put /usr/local/[s] bin BEFORE the /usr/[s] bin? I always thought system comes first, anything we mess with comes after?!!
[12:41] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: make a dir at /media/floppy and then try to mount it the way cafuego said.
[12:41] <xcore> Seveas hey man, i set the cupsys pass and dont work .....
[12:42] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> do I want the command makedir then?
[12:42] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys mkdir
[12:42] <Jowi> CrysCrysCrysCrys: mkdir
[12:42] <medamaybe> I'm trying to update using apt-get dist-upgrade, but I keep getting this:  "The following packages have been kept back:  gaim gimp mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox-gnome-support smbclient" does anyone know wju?
[12:42] <lJlolel> pfp, Thanks a lot! may i recommend changing MEDIUM to LARGE in that line
[12:42] <medamaybe> why*
[12:42] <Xorlev> CrysCrysCrysCrys: the command is mkdir
[12:42] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys mkdir /mount/floppy
[12:42] <cafuego> /media/floppy if you please
[12:42] <Seveas> guys, /dev/fs0 is in fstab...
[12:42] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys mount /dev/fd0 /mount/floppy
[12:43] <Seveas> mounting to /mdeia/floppy
[12:43] <Jowi> medamaybe: i would think that you have "backports" enabled that make it clash. try to comment it out before installing.
[12:43] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> blcok device is read only. Yay!
[12:43] <cafuego> Seveas: Oh is it? I haven't used a box with a floppy controller for YEARS.
[12:43] <medamaybe> Jowi: backports? what's that?
[12:43] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Oh...Cand read superblock
[12:44] <Jowi> medamaybe: have you modified your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:44] <medamaybe> yes
[12:45] <rebug> wow, that's the most annoying thing ever...is someone spamming this channel with msgs for some reason?
[12:45] <Jowi> medamaybe: something you put into sources.list also have the package you are trying to install. there are now conflicts in your repos. the same packages exist on several servers.
[12:45] <CookdGryphon> what was that spam blocking command again? i dint bother with it, left my computer n my screen's full of em now
[12:45] <Seveas> CookdGryphon, /umode +CE
[12:45] <CookdGryphon> ta
[12:46] <medamaybe> Jowi: I see...so how do I disable these backports?
[12:46] <cafuego> Seveas: Mebbe throw it in teh topic...
[12:46] <lJlolel> thanks Seveas
[12:46] <oblib> any ideas as to why I can't mount DVDs if 'nohide' is set in fstab?
[12:46] <Jowi> rebug: first - try to put a # infront of the lines you added, then do a 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:46] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> so when I mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy it just blanks out.
[12:46] <Jowi> medamaybe:  first - try to put a # infront of the lines you added, then do a 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:46] <cafuego> CrysCrysCrysCrys: As in: doesn't print anything? This is good.
[12:46] <Jowi> rebug: sorry, that was not ment for you
[12:47] <Xorlev> Gah this bloody spambot thing is pissing me off.
[12:47] <CarlFK> how do I (or where is the url that splains) setup fstab so JoeUser can mount a CD?
[12:47] <Seveas> Everybody: I just disabled non-registered users from joing/talking in here
[12:47] <Seveas> PLEASE register your nickname
[12:47] <cafuego> Seveas: Yay! Party!
[12:47] <Jowi> lol
[12:47] <Xorlev> Seveas: Thank you =)
[12:47] <Seveas> to register: /msg nickserv help register
[12:47] <medamaybe> ok
[12:47] <rebug> Will ubuntu read ufs2 disks? I'm a linux noob coming over from FreeBSD 5...
[12:47] <Seveas> Send me a private message if you need help
[12:47] <Xorlev> It was rather annoying to come back to X-Chat and see 40 or so PMs.
[12:48] <cafuego> rebug: yes, it should (I think)
[12:48] <CarlFK> I wonder how many peopel are saying "how? how?" right now?
[12:48] <dv_> hello
[12:48] <Jowi> Xorlev: how can you help that you are popular? :-)
[12:48] <nalioth> Seveas: you're not +E are you? lol
[12:48] <cafuego> Xorlev: Seems like a nice excuse to start using a decent irc client eh?
[12:48] <Seveas> no :)
[12:48] <lJlolel> cafuego, xchat isn't good?
[12:48] <Xorlev> Jowi: I wouldn't mind if it was a real person, but it was spambots.
[12:48] <cafuego> lJlolel: Of course not.
[12:48] <Seveas> xchat is fine :)
[12:49] <nicholaspaul> :( yea... cafuego.. whats wrong with XChat?
[12:49] <nicholaspaul> lets gang up on cafuego..
[12:49] <cafuego> nicholaspaul: It seems to spawn windows by default. I'd call that wrong.
[12:49] <dv_> man
[12:49] <dv_> i need fox 1.4
[12:49] <dv_> but ubuntu has 1.0
[12:49] <Seveas> dv_, nonsense
[12:49] <Seveas> ubuntu has 1.0.6
[12:49] <Xorlev> dv_: Can't you update? :P
[12:50] <dv_> 1.0.6
[12:50] <lJlolel> cafuego, lol then what is good?
[12:50] <dv_> fine
[12:50] <Seveas> enable the security repositories
[12:50] <Jowi> Xorlev: :-) awwww
[12:50] <nicholaspaul> cafuego.. well i'm not into windows.. hehe
[12:50] <dv_> thats still too old :)
[12:50] <cafuego> blah
[12:50] <cafuego> !helpme
[12:50] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[12:50] <Xorlev> dv_: FireFox 1.0.6 is the newest out right now.
[12:50] <cafuego> nicholaspaul: irssi is nice, isn't it?
[12:50] <dv_> no
[12:50] <dv_> not firefox
[12:50] <dv_> FOX
[12:50] <nicholaspaul> irrsi, cafuego? never tried it.
[12:51] <nalioth> cafuego: irssi IS nice, except it doesnt play well with python
[12:51] <dv_> fox toolkit
[12:51] <Xorlev> Then update fox
[12:51] <cafuego> nalioth: DON'T get me started on python...
[12:51] <Seveas> dv_, sorry
[12:51] <nalioth> nickrud: give irssi a try
[12:51] <dv_> Xorlev, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=fox&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[12:51] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: give irssi a try
[12:51] <nicholaspaul> ok, i need a network config tool for xfce, something small, nice and not too expensive, what can i use?
[12:51] <nicholaspaul> irssi... ok :)
[12:52] <cafuego> irssi is text-mode.
[12:52] <medamaybe> Jowi are you still there?
[12:52] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: network-admin not good enough
[12:52] <Jowi> medamaybe: yeah. having a beer
[12:52] <cafuego> There is an X version, it's called 'rxvt -e irssi'
[12:52] <medamaybe> Jowi: beer is good :)
[12:52] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: irssi is a terminal client (which means it's much more adaptable to many situations)
[12:52] <nicholaspaul> jowi i couldnt download it with xfce..
[12:52] <Jowi> medamaybe: very. 4th Carlsberg down the drain.
[12:52] <Xorlev> dv_: http://freshmeat.net/projects/fox/?branch_id=2819&release_id=192577
[12:52] <medamaybe> Jowi: if I comment out the backports, the upgrades can't be found at all
[12:52] <nicholaspaul> oh i shee, nalioth.. but is it OSX?
[12:53] <medamaybe> Jowi: ahh sounds good, I wish I had some :)
[12:53] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Hey guys.
[12:53] <Jowi> medamaybe: exactly what are you updating?
[12:53] <nicholaspaul> jowi - yea, cant find network-admin sith sudo apt-get install
[12:53] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I just had to register.
[12:53] <Xorlev> Just download the newest from there.
[12:53] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys "it"? "blanks out"?
[12:53] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: irssi runs under osx, also try xirssi or macirssi
[12:54] <kemik> what's up with the required registration?
[12:54] <nicholaspaul> nalioth. cool :)
[12:54] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, the terminal, but I was wrong. It's just slow.
[12:54] <cafuego> kemik: unregistered bots are spamming all of freenode.
[12:54] <medamaybe> Jowi: well, I used the ubuntu updates. and it said "gaim, gimp, mozilla-firefox, mozilla-firefox-gnome-support and smbclient" were held back and I had to use apt0get dist-upgrade to update those
[12:54] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys So does it work?
[12:54] <nicholaspaul> Jowi : thanks :) I'm more of a guinness man myself.. got any?
[12:54] <lJlolel> medamaybe, me too
[12:54] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> it said to specify the fs type.
[12:55] <medamaybe> lJlolel: can you get it to work?
[12:55] <kemik> ahh i c
[12:55] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I ran the line: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[12:55] <marcus^^> hi
[12:55] <cafuego> kemik: .. this way they can't join #ubuntu unless they're also registered.
[12:55] <kemik> cafuego:  what's wrong with python? =)
[12:55] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: not since i moved to France. I lived in Dublin for some years an i really miss a good, dark Guinness :-(
[12:55] <marcus^^> how do i install DEB files?
[12:55] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys vfat?
[12:55] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> is that wrong?
[12:55] <Seveas> marcus^^, dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:55] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys try mount /media/floppy0
[12:55] <cafuego> marcus^^: dpkg -i foo.deb
[12:55] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> it is a fat 32 I think.
[12:55] <nicholaspaul> oo Jowi now i'm jealous! i live in Canada and can at least buy it here, but when i'm back in England next, i'm taking a trip to Ireland :)
[12:56] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: network-admin is installed by default for me... no idea what package its in... hmmm....
[12:56] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys did you already say it wasn't in your fstab?
[12:56] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib no man, it can't find it in fstab
[12:56] <nicholaspaul> oh right, jowi.. i installed a server install and then got xfce. A really bare system...
[12:56] <nicholaspaul> i've been trying to use iwconfig, jowi
[12:57] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: hang on, trying to find network-admin. it's really easy gui
[12:57] <nicholaspaul> :) jowi
[12:57] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> When i tell it to mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy, it says that It can't read the superblock.
[12:57] <medamaybe> Jowi: do you have any suggestions?
[12:57] <Jowi> medamaybe: if you really want those update, maybe you can force them with the -f option. not sure if thats advisable though since they are in conflict with other versions....
[12:57] <ak007> can anyone tell me where synaptic caches all packages?
[12:57] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys try it without the -t vfat (after umounting of course)
[12:58] <nicholaspaul> ak007 - no. It usually just installs where they should be. It doesnt download a package for you to unzip or anything - it installs too
[12:58] <medamaybe> Jowi: k, I don't want to risk that,  thanks
[12:58] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib,  how do I unmount?
[12:58] <ak007> k
[12:59] <nalioth> ak007: /var/apt/cache
[01:00] <ITS_FOR_REAL> How do i make files and folders with an diffrent charset then utf-8 ?   All my files and folders created in Linux doesnt read right to winmachines....
[01:00] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, why isn't there a little list of devices to mount/unmount or something?
[01:00] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys umount /media/floppy  or whatever directory you ended up with
[01:00] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys umount /mount/floppy
[01:00] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> unmount: command not found
[01:01] <ITS_FOR_REAL> CHECK SPELLING
[01:01] <oblib> umount
[01:01] <oblib> not unmount
[01:02] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> it says it wasn't mounted. Hey, thanks for wasting your time like this, btw.
[01:02] <nicholaspaul> geez....
[01:02] <Drewfus> im having trouble sharing with my network
[01:02] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Wasting? ;)
[01:02] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys np, I can't get answers to my questions, so nothing better to do
[01:02] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib,  did you say to mount again without -t?
[01:02] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys have you tried mounting it without the -t?
[01:03] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys yeah
[01:03] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Hey i got solutions to all of u! Install ms win XP :D
[01:03] <nicholaspaul> laughing hysterically...
[01:03] <cafuego> Oh look, it's a troll.
[01:03] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Hehe
[01:03] <Drewfus> its not a solution if it crashes all the time
[01:03] <nicholaspaul> or gets viruses
[01:03] <Prower> That's much better :>
[01:04] <dalamar> *hork* @ xp
[01:04] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> ITS_FOR_REAL,  good idea, except it won't read the floppy for my raid controller.
[01:04] <Jowi> cafuego: do you know which package network-admin is in?
[01:04] <Drewfus> im having trouble sharing with my network can anyone help?
[01:04] <nicholaspaul> H2S04 is a good solution for windows...
[01:04] <cafuego> !find network-admin
[01:04] <cafuego> Jowi: not yet
[01:04] <Yukimaruo> Hey guys, Im have some problem with my Ununtu install... you guys willing to listen and help? Please...
[01:04] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Anyways, I'm trying to dual boot.
[01:04] <Jowi> :-)
[01:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'network-admin' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/network-admin, /usr/share/omf/gnome-system-tools/network-admin-C.omf, /usr/share/gnome/help/network-admin/C/network-admin.xml) in gnome/gnome-system-tools.
[01:04] <Prower> Yukimaruo: I'm sure there's more than a few people here that will try to help, sure
[01:04] <Jowi> ah
[01:04] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> And my ubuntu disks all came up with bad burn messages.
[01:05] <Yukimaruo> okeay I'll give it a try...
[01:05] <cafuego> !find network-admin breezy
[01:05] <nicholaspaul> ubotu, can i install it with apt-get then?
[01:05] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, nicholaspaul
[01:05] <nicholaspaul> doh... :'( ubotu
[01:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'network-admin' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/network-admin, /usr/share/omf/gnome-system-tools/network-admin-C.omf, /usr/share/gnome/help/network-admin/C/network-admin.xml) in gnome/gnome-system-tools.
[01:05] <Jowi> nicholaspaul: unfortunatley gnome-system-tools
[01:05] <nicholaspaul> oh right...
[01:05] <Yukimaruo> Hello, I ude to run Fedora core 3 on my box, and I want to covert to Ubuntu but before I did that I tryed out Gentoo... but my install failed, and I fear that I did something wrong with the install because now I tryed to install Ununtu and when it boots up I cant use the keyboard to hit "Enter" and I though it might be the CD but I also tryed the Fedora CDs and they did not work as well. I also checked the keyboard on another computer and
[01:05] <cafuego> Yep, 'gnome-system-tools' on both.
[01:05] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> isn't ubotu a bot?
[01:05] <nicholaspaul> i found iwconfig, but cant configure it grr (cafuego)
[01:05] <Jowi> cafuego: cheers
[01:06] <Yukimaruo> I think its a geometry problem, does anyone know how i can wipe my entire HD out without an OS
[01:06] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> yukimaruo is the keyboard still attached to the other computer?
[01:06] <Jowi> cafuego: that search is great. no idea it was in ubotu's powers
[01:06] <oblib> Yukimaruo does the keyboard work in BIOS?
[01:07] <cafuego> !bot
[01:07] <ubotu> Indeed, that is what I am.
[01:07] <Yukimaruo> CrysCrysCrysCrys, its attached to the computer Im trying to install on
[01:07] <Yukimaruo> oblibm i dont know... how do i get to BIOS?
[01:07] <cafuego> broken bot at that
[01:07] <cafuego> fo, ubotu
[01:07] <nicholaspaul> k, i have a wireless card that worked fine before configuring a WEP, now all i need to do is enter a a WEP somewhere.. where? (xfce)
[01:07] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  usually you hit "DEL" when booting
[01:08] <oblib> Yukimaruo when you reboot and the screen comes up that says "push F2 to enter some screen" or "press delete to enter so and so"
[01:08] <kemik> Yukimaruo: during POST
[01:08] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Yukimaruo, I was joking. I'm sorry I'm not funny
[01:08] <lJlolel> Yukimaruo, or F2 or another F key
[01:08] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys I thought it was pretty good
[01:08] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  it doesnt sound like an issue with your Harddisk that your keyboard is nto responing
[01:08] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: do you have a USB or wireless keyboard?
[01:08] <kemik> responing
[01:08] <kemik> erhgfg
[01:08] <Jowi> kemik: lol
[01:09] <kemik> responding*
[01:09] <Yukimaruo> USB
[01:09] <Yukimaruo> and no, it doent even work in BIOS
[01:09] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, thanks. what is the modifier for fat 32 in the mount command again?
[01:09] <kemik> oh.. usb crap
[01:09] <kemik> :)
[01:09] <Yukimaruo> i cant even get to BIOS, it wont register the DEL i do
[01:09] <cafuego> CrysCrysCrysCrys: vfat
[01:09] <lJlolel> Yukimaruo, it says to hit hte delete key to entery bios?
[01:09] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: try to remove all things connected to your ports. then insert only the keyboard
[01:09] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> hmm.
[01:10] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys are you sure it's not msdos?
[01:10] <Yukimaruo> Jowi, i think something might be wrong with my hard drive, b/c i was trying to install freebsd...
[01:10] <Yukimaruo> i tihnk that might have fucked with it somehow..
[01:10] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: remove it all - printers, mouse, usb-devices, modems. if your keyboard does not respond in BIOS it has nothing to do with what you have on your harddisk
[01:10] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, you mean a fat16?
[01:10] <lJlolel> Yukimaruo, in a lot of computers it's different, F1,F2, etc.. i just slam all of the keys at startup
[01:10] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  if you boot from CD, then the harddisk isnt relly 'involved' in the process
[01:10] <patrickj> llo
[01:11] <dpowers> hmm, i am having a problem with apt
[01:11] <avanspronsen> ;;==;;;
[01:11] <Yukimaruo> Jowi, nothing is attached to the computer other then a keyboard and mouse
[01:11] <kemik> (in addition to what Jowi said.. ;) )
[01:11] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, I don't know. I rande makedisk in win2k
[01:11] <oblib> Yukimaruo did the keyboard work on the other computer?
[01:11] <dpowers> when i try to do an update, it is telling that it can't update gaim, because gaim has a dependency on gaim-data that is not in my apt database
[01:11] <nicholaspaul> xfce net admin, anyone? anyone?
[01:11] <lJlolel> Yukimaruo, do you have a PS/2 keyboard lying around?
[01:11] <Yukimaruo> I dont think something is wrong iwth my computer...
[01:11] <oblib> CrysCrysCrysCrys maybe ntfs? anyone know?
[01:12] <Yukimaruo> Yes...
[01:12] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: try to insert your keyboard into another USB slot.
[01:12] <Jowi> lJlolel: good idea :-)
[01:12] <Yukimaruo> I tryed it in every port and right now im using a ps2 one
[01:12] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, I don't think windows formats floppys in ntfs cuz it's not backwards compatible, but I'll check on my laptop.
[01:12] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> BRB
[01:12] <kemik> isit really called a PS/2 keyboard ?
[01:12] <_frank_> dpowers: gaim-data is in main
[01:13] <_frank_> dpowers: you should have it available
[01:13] <lJlolel> kemik, lol i dont know, i guess?
[01:13] <dpowers> _frank_, i have it available, it's just i have the wrong version
[01:13] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> kemik yes it is the name of the style of mainboard it first came on I think.
[01:13] <dpowers> my version is way downrevved
[01:13] <lJlolel> keyboards first came on playstation 2s?
[01:13] <kemik> hahaha
[01:13] <kemik> lJlolel:  :P
[01:13] <_frank_> dpowers: what version of gaim did you install? from what repository?
[01:14] <oblib> what's the IRC command to leave one channel?
[01:14] <oblib> brain cramp
[01:14] <Yukimaruo> any other tip guys?
[01:14] <Yukimaruo> tips/ hints?
[01:14] <Seveas> oblib, /part #channelna,e
[01:14] <oblib> thanks
[01:14] <nicholaspaul> i just found out there is a community just for women using Ubuntu....... :S
[01:14] <corvus_ferrum> i'm having trouble getting my wireless card to work on my laptop, anyone have any suggestions?
[01:14] <kemik> CrysCrysCrysCrys:  cool. didnt know that =)
[01:14] <_frank_> dpowers: you're right... gaim-data is missing from backports
[01:14] <dpowers> _frank_, i have lots of entries in /etc/apt/sources.list, how do i now which one it's choosing?
[01:14] <dpowers> _frank, ya backports
[01:14] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  it doenst sound like a software-issue to me
[01:15] <dpowers> _frank_, others too, gimp, mozilla, etc
[01:15] <nicholaspaul> oh yea, corvus_ferrum. Have you searched the wiki for compatibility?
[01:15] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  f.ex if the Keyboard has been working with a FC3 bootable cd before, and not now, it really has nothing todo with your harddrive nor it's content
[01:15] <zer0`> dpowers, apt-cache policy gaim
[01:15] <corvus_ferrum> not yet
[01:15] <corvus_ferrum> nicholaspaul: not yet
[01:15] <Yukimaruo> kemik, what should i do then...
[01:16] <Yukimaruo> it's not working now... with anything
[01:16] <nicholaspaul> its  a good place to start... corvus_ferrum
[01:16] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  try another keyboard would be the simples solution imo
[01:16] <oblib> Yukimaruo: if you can't even get to bios then it has to be hardware
[01:16] <_frank_> dpowers: backports is having problems. you can download what you need manually from http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/main/binary-i386/
[01:16] <Yukimaruo> kemik, i already tryed 3 keoboards
[01:16] <dpowers> zer0`, thanks for that
[01:16] <oblib> Mobo fried then
[01:16] <lJlolel> Yukimaruo, what exactly happens when the mobo boots?
[01:16] <dpowers> _frank_, thanks glad it's not me
[01:16] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  all USB keyboards ?
[01:16] <CookdGryphon> is wine on that? cos i'm trying to dl it, and it got all the libraries, but not the actual wine program
[01:17] <nicholaspaul> corvus_ferrum	: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:17] <_frank_> dpowers: and install with dpkg.
[01:17] <dpowers> _frank_, do i need to let anyone know?
[01:17] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  as oblib says, if you cannot access BIOS.. then somethings fubar with your hardwere
[01:17] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: last solution I would try is to reset the BIOS by removing the CMOS battery. beware that all your bios settins will be lost though...
[01:17] <_frank_> dpowers: I think they know.
[01:17] <lJlolel> Jowi, what bios settiings does he care about?
[01:17] <_frank_> dpowers: The backport forums are full of this problem
[01:17] <dpowers> ok
[01:18] <kemik> usually there's not much to keep in bios
[01:18] <Yukimaruo> Jowi, do i have to open my computer for that?
[01:18] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: yes. it's a battery.
[01:18] <lJlolel> he's never accessed the bios, nothing's changed
[01:18] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  yes, usually, consult your manual
[01:18] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  there's usually a jumper that you'll have to set/unset
[01:18] <Yukimaruo> no manual, this computer is like 7 years old
[01:18] <lJlolel> probably has nomanual
[01:18] <Yukimaruo> i've had it scince i was in 5th grade...
[01:18] <Jowi> lJlolel: good point. should be safe.
[01:18] <kemik> just pull the battery then
[01:18] <oblib> Yukimaruo: That's a good idea - usually there is a jumper that you can short instead of removing the battery though
[01:19] <Yukimaruo> oblib, i still have to open the computer?
[01:19] <oblib> Three questions for anyone:
[01:19] <oblib> Question: I updated my kernel and now my nvidia drivers don't work. Is there an easy way to get that working again?
[01:19] <oblib> any ideas as to why I can't mount DVDs if 'nohide' is set in fstab?
[01:19] <loirmbs> im trying to install gimpshop, can you help me a bit, it says that: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3.4' not found (required by gimp)
[01:19] <oblib> and has anyone tried compiling winex in ubuntu?
[01:19] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: the battery is one of those wrist-watch batteries. easy to spot. just remove it for 30 seconds or so.
[01:20] <oblib> Yukimaruo: definitely
[01:20] <cafuego> loirmbs: you're uing a broken package. Stoppit.
[01:20] <_frank_> oblib: reinstall the drivers. the modules need to be compiled again I think
[01:20] <kemik> loirmbs:  apt-get install libglibc-dev or something
[01:20] <cafuego> !info libc6 hoary
[01:20] <ubotu> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 (hoary), Packaged size: 4708 kB, Installed size: 15416 kB
[01:20] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: you could also reset the BIOS/CMOS if your keyboard worked :-)
[01:20] <hubsi> how do i get my xawtv fullscreen and not this little window?
[01:20] <Yukimaruo> okay, i will try this..
[01:20] <cafuego> kemik: no, he's not using an ubuntu package.
[01:20] <jbailey> loirmbs: If you're really brave, you can try upgrading to Breezy.  The glibc in Hoary is too old for what you want to do.
[01:20] <loirmbs> cafuego: what do you mean by broken package :/
[01:20] <kemik> cafuego:  oops.. i assumed too much =)
[01:20] <nicholaspaul> a package wont dont work no more
[01:20] <cafuego> loirmbs: that gimpshop package is not a ubuntu Hoary one.
[01:20] <oblib> _frank_ modules don't like the new kernel and want to recompile, but then can't find kernel source
[01:20] <jbailey> loirmbs: But you need to upgrade the whole system.  Just glibc on its own will cause you problems.
[01:21] <cafuego> !info libc6 breezy
[01:21] <loirmbs> ...
[01:21] <ubotu> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 4772 kB, Installed size: 15436 kB
[01:21] <CarlFK> a full install will mount CD's when they are inserted.  what do I need to isntall to get that to happen on a server?
[01:21] <loirmbs> oh man
[01:21] <lJlolel> is there really that much left to do for breezy?
[01:21] <_frank_> oblib: are you doing this with the nvidia installer?
[01:21] <jbailey> lJlolel: Define 'that much'? =)
[01:21] <Jowi> Yukimaruo: please do not forget to pull the power before opening the computer
[01:21] <lJlolel> shouldn't it be pretty stable now
[01:21] <kemik> we wouldnt want an accident
[01:21] <jbailey> lJlolel: We're in FeatureFreeze now, and Preview Freeze is ina week I think.
[01:21] <oblib> _frank_ I've tried that and apt-get
[01:21] <jbailey> But it means that everything is getting bug fixing love now, rather than feature development.
[01:22] <kemik> Yukimaruo:  and make sure you're grounded before touching the greenstuff with silicon ;)
[01:22] <CarlFK> jbailey - "that much" = the amount needed to be done ;)
[01:22] <jbailey> But there are a decent amount of bugs still to fix.
[01:22] <loirmbs> seems that i won't be using gimpshop yet...
[01:22] <lJlolel> do you start making CDs after preview freeze?
[01:22] <Seveas> lJlolel, no, only after release
[01:22] <_frank_> oblib: where did you get your new kernel?
[01:22] <_frank_> oblib: what is your new kernel?
[01:23] <kemik> Breezy - a Breeze to install... eh ?
[01:23] <jbailey> lJlolel: We have had 3 colony CDs so far, and there are nightly ones.  Otherwise, as Seveas sais.
[01:23] <juanej> is there any option to nautilius or rox? i didnt like rox, and im using xfce so no nautilius
[01:23] <lJlolel> what is the diff between the preview freeze and release?
[01:23] <oblib> _frank_ apt-get --- both 386 2.6.11-0.2 and 686 (whatever the most recent one it)
[01:23] <kemik> juanej:  mc
[01:23] <oblib> *is)
[01:23] <_adam> Can anyone take the time to have a private conversation to help out a newbie?
[01:24] <Jowi> juanej: rox-filer is the best i've seen
[01:24] <Seveas> lJlolel, the bugs fixed in between...
[01:24] <kemik> _adam:  why not ask in the channel, your real question
[01:24] <juanej> Jowi, i dont like that keyboard shortcuts
[01:24] <loirmbs> _adam: it's better to ask you questions in channel
[01:24] <Seveas> oblib, the 2.6.11 packages should NOT be used
[01:24] <Seveas> these are known to be broken
[01:24] <juanej> ctrl+x to delete? come on
[01:24] <_adam> I just want someone to show me around for the most part
[01:24] <oblib> I think we're too late for Yukimaruo
[01:24] <_adam> like how to install/compile downloaded software, etc
[01:24] <loirmbs> _adam: theres a wiki and forums for that
[01:24] <oblib> Seveas then why did apt-get update me to them?
[01:25] <_frank_> oblib: make sure you get the headers for your new kernel. the nvidia installer will need them. You can't apt-get the nvidia driver now because the restricted modules are not in the repositories for your new kernel
[01:25] <Seveas> oblib, impossible.
[01:25] <Jowi> juanej: you won't find anything faster, that's for sure. :-)
[01:25] <Seveas> well, update should give them in your lists
[01:25] <loirmbs> _adam: also seveas will kill me, but www.ubuntuguide.org is handy
[01:25] <lJlolel> who thought of ubuntu (and making it so great?)
[01:25] <kemik> _adam:  reading the wiki's/forums will probably teach you more than getting the "ready-to-use" commands
[01:25] <Seveas> but they ar not meant to be installed
[01:25] <juanej> i dont like that shortcuts
[01:25] <cafuego> lJlolel: I did.
[01:25] <lJlolel> lol
[01:25] <_adam> Alright, I'll head over there, can I have a link?
[01:25] <kemik> _adam:  you'll get a better understadning of it all
[01:25] <Jowi> juanej: but doesn't xfce have its own filemanager?
[01:25] <kemik> !wiki
[01:25] <oblib> seveas: ii  linux-image-2. 2.6.10-34.4    Linux kernel image for version 2.6.10 on 386
[01:25] <rob^> is anyone else getting hit by a million bots that say nothing?
[01:25] <oblib> ii  linux-image-2. 2.6.11-0.2     Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on 386
[01:25] <oblib> ri  linux-image-2. 2.6.11-0.2     Linux kernel image for version 2.6.11 on PPr
[01:25] <oblib> ii  linux-image-38 2.6.10-7       Linux kernel image on 386.
[01:25] <_frank_> oblib: and why did you change the kernel?
[01:26] <juanej> Jowi, yep but it is worse
[01:26] <_adam> is it a channel here?
[01:26] <Seveas> jeez, spammers, pasters...
[01:26] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, this is friggin nuts
[01:26] <kemik> _adam:  no its on the www
[01:26] <Jowi> juanej: yeah, i seem to remember that part
[01:26] <Seveas> can't I just have an easy night :/
[01:26] <cafuego> lJlolel: I didn't actually do any of the work, but I did think about it often ;-)
[01:26] <rob^> wtf is the point of having bots that do nothing on here, they don't even spam anything..
[01:26] <juanej> damn i miss nautilius
[01:26] <juanej> :(
[01:26] <loirmbs> Seveas: yeah right :D
[01:26] <cafuego> rob^: They're probably misconfigured.
[01:27] <rob^> cafuego, I think its deliberate
[01:27] <juanej> didnt like mc, any options?
[01:27] <cafuego> rob^: Please visit a random pr0n url when you have a moment .. ;-)
[01:27] <zerboxx> Has anyone here sucessful setup the linksys wpc54g(ver2) pcmcia card??
[01:27] <Seveas> rob^, did you get spammed by bots still in this channel?
[01:27] <kemik> _adam:  its wiki.ubuntuforums.org or wiki.ubuntusomething.something.. i dont remember right now =)
[01:27] <Seveas> if so, let me know
[01:27] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:27] <kemik> oh
[01:27] <nicholaspaul> any iwconfig Kings in the house?
[01:28] <cafuego> zerboxx: No. I have one. it doesn't work.
[01:28] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib, shouldn't the light on the front of my floppy be lighting up or something?
[01:28] <zerboxx> cafuego: even with ndiswrapper?
[01:28] <rob^> he ^
[01:28] <cafuego> zerboxx: The drivers load, it says it's fine, but it never EVER gets an IP. Even without wep/wpa.
[01:28] <cafuego> zerboxx: yes.
[01:28] <cafuego> zerboxx: Return it, get soemthing else.
[01:28] <zerboxx> cafuego: That's the problem I have, I can see networks, but can't connect
[01:28] <Jowi> time to hit the sack. 'night all
[01:28] <BeatYou> silly spam attackers
[01:29] <nicholaspaul> nite jowi:)
[01:29] <zerboxx> cafuego: *sigh* that's more trouble than it should be :@
[01:29] <cafuego> zerboxx: Well you know...
[01:29] <cafuego> zerboxx: check this stuff BEFORE purchase ;-)
[01:29] <cafuego> zerboxx: .. then buy what is known to work.
[01:29] <nalioth> rob^: just make yourself +E
[01:29] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> oblib,  you still there?
[01:29] <zerboxx> cafuego: very true
[01:30] <glick> hi
[01:30] <zerboxx> cafuego: recommend d-link or netgear? (those are my other 2 options, other than linksys)
[01:30] <loirmbs> can i make my own "bootloader" which comes after gmd right when you log in?
[01:30] <cafuego> zerboxx: if you can, a revision one (1) netgear WG511T
[01:30] <glick> hey i found out that evolution sucks
[01:30] <glick> what else is there that will give me calendering and event scheduling and email at one place
[01:30] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> okay, how do you mount a zip drive?
[01:30] <loirmbs> glick: congrats.
[01:30] <nalioth> zerboxx: there is a hardware compatibility page on wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:30] <rob^> whats +E do?
[01:30] <Yukimaruo> whats the cmos jumper?
[01:31] <nalioth> rob^: keeps unregistered users from PMing you
[01:31] <cafuego> zerboxx: make 8sure* the revision numbers match, newer ones (again) won't work.
[01:31] <rob^> nalioth, ah good, thanks
[01:31] <glick> loirmbs, huh?
[01:31] <dalamar> anyone here using the upower bootsplash tool talked aboutin the wiki?
[01:31] <glick> congrats for what?
[01:31] <zerboxx> cafuego: Ok, thanks
[01:31] <_frank_> zerboxx: for a wifi card, the easiest ones to setup are those with atheros chipset. (maybe some other chipsets work well too)
[01:31] <loirmbs> glick: evolution sucks.
[01:31] <dirkhaim> hi
[01:31] <glick> what else is there
[01:31] <robotgeek> zerboxx: also a ralink chipset
[01:31] <dirkhaim> can anyone help me with upgrading the kernel?
[01:31] <glick> kontact?
[01:32] <loirmbs> mozilla thunderbird?
[01:32] <cafuego> _frank_: Yes, Actual prism3 cards.
[01:32] <cafuego> _frank_: they don't require atheros or other ugly 3rd party drivers.
[01:32] <loirmbs> Yukimaruo: if you remove the battery it's the same thing :D
[01:32] <glick> loirmbs, but that just does email
[01:32] <nalioth> glick: aside from evolution, idk of any all-in-one proggy for what you want
[01:32] <Seveas> dirkhaim: TO keep your kernel current install one of linux-686 (for intel cpu) linux-k7 (for amd) or linux-ppc (for mac)
[01:32] <loirmbs> Yukimaruo: it got too hard to explain what it is
[01:32] <dirkhaim> I am looking for the apt-get source to upgrade the kernel to the latest stable version
[01:33] <_frank_> cafuego: isnt't madwifi used by atheros open source?
[01:33] <Yukimaruo> loirmbs, ok.. i though maybe for the coms jumper i didnt have to open my computer.. but now i find out that coms jumper is in the comp ike it to
[01:33] <glick> how is kontact?
[01:33] <Seveas> _frank_, it has a binary-only part
[01:33] <dirkhaim> any idea where I can find what to add to my sources.list to apt-get the kernel?
[01:33] <glick> can i run kontact in gnome?
[01:33] <Yukimaruo> loirmbs, battery = the one thats big right?
[01:33] <loirmbs> glick: yeah? would you like to have it make coffee for you or something?
[01:33] <glick> and will kontact run in the task bar so that it can remind me of updates and stuff?
[01:33] <Yukimaruo> the power supply?
[01:33] <_frank_> Seveas: hmmm. I didn't know that
[01:33] <loirmbs> Yukimaruo: yeah...
[01:33] <lJlolel> is there a competing calendaring program called creationism?
[01:34] <loirmbs> Yukimaruo: there's only one so you can't pick the wrong one :D
[01:34] <Yukimaruo> i need to go find tools to open the comp
[01:34] <dalamar> thumb screws are your friend ;)
[01:34] <CrackersKeenan> anyone know what's going on if mplayer and totem play an avi file with the sound out of sync with the video?  and why can't XMMS play such files at all?  (it's 130Mb, would that make a difference?)
[01:35] <nalioth> Yukimaruo: a sawzall works wonders
[01:35] <_frank_> dalamar: he has a 7 year old computer... thumb screws?? ;-)
[01:35] <dalamar> _frank_, doh heh
[01:35] <glick> damn cant i just uninstall evolution without it uninstalling the entire ubuntu-desktop?
[01:35] <nalioth> glick: just leave it, it doesnt take up much room
[01:35] <BeatYou> glick: ive wondered the same thing but about the gnome games
[01:35] <BeatYou> it wants to remove the entire desktop instead of just the games
[01:35] <loirmbs> CrackersKeenan: xmms is for music
[01:35] <BeatYou> pisses me off
[01:36] <JDahl> Does anyone know if Breezy will include openafs 1.3.x, or still use 1.2.x. ?
[01:36] <CookdGryphon> can't you jsut find the package in synaptic n mark for uninstall?
[01:36] <CookdGryphon> ah wll, i use it neway
[01:36] <CrackersKeenan> loirmbs: ah ok, I thought it played videos as well
[01:36] <dalamar> CrackersKeenan, I believe it might with a plugin but not stock
[01:36] <loirmbs> dalamar: does it mean that you can't change the part of you computer if you have an old computer :D
[01:36] <JDahl> Debian testing has 1.3.x, so I would think Breezy would have that also
[01:36] <loirmbs> parts*
[01:36] <BeatYou> CookdGryphon but try selecting the gnome games for removal, it tries to remove gnome desktop as well
[01:36] <cafuego> !info openafs breezy
[01:37] <cafuego> blah
[01:37] <loirmbs> CrackersKeenan: try vlc, if you haven't already
[01:37] <dalamar> loirmbs, not without a toolbox ;)
[01:37] <loirmbs> dalamar: that's not the point
[01:37] <_adam> What is you guy's preference, Limewire or emule?
[01:37] <nicholaspaul> HMV, _adam
[01:38] <CrackersKeenan> loirmbs:  vlc?  I'll give it a run.  sudo apt-get install vlc?
[01:38] <nalioth> _adam: i like non-java apps
[01:38] <glick> i wish ubuntu allowed more flexability with what is installed
[01:38] <dirkhaim> any idea how I can install the latest stable kernel on Ubunutu using apt-get?
[01:38] <glick> the desktop should not depend on gnome games
[01:38] <nalioth> dirkhaim: you probably already have it
[01:38] <CrackersKeenan> dalamar:  i tried downloading the extra codecs as per ubuntuguide
[01:38] <loirmbs> CrackersKeenan: yeah, but you should use aptitude instead of apt-get
[01:38] <nalioth> CrackersKeenan: ubuntuguide will lead you into darkness
[01:38] <CrackersKeenan> aptitude?  is that synaptic?
[01:39] <JDahl> is there a webpage similar to Debian's package search that lists packages and version numbers in Breezy Universe? I haven't seen one
[01:39] <CrackersKeenan> nalioth: lol... i've found it pretty good I have to say.
[01:39] <nalioth> CrackersKeenan: aptitude and synaptic are frontends to apt-get
[01:39] <loirmbs> CrackersKeenan: no, it's aptitude.
[01:39] <nalioth> CrackersKeenan: aptitude is console and synaptic is gui
[01:39] <lJlolel> JDahl, apt-cache policy <packagename> gets version
[01:39] <nicholaspaul> synaptic has aptitude tho.. ;)
[01:39] <JDahl> (or could someone running Breezy do me the favor of searching for it with apt-cache?)
[01:40] <CrackersKeenan> diagnosis on my previous issue:  running mplayer from the command line, there were comments about "your system is too slow to play this".  There's a few options they give so I'll look into those
[01:40] <dalamar> CrackersKeenan, well xmms would need a plugin in addition to any codecs to play vids .. vlc is your best bet regardless
[01:40] <Seveas> JDahl, packages.ubuntu.com
[01:40] <nalioth> JDahl: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:40] <zerboxx> cafuego: Any idea if the card will work with _any_ other OS other than M$?
[01:40] <CrackersKeenan> nalioth:  the console is a frightening and dangerous place
[01:40] <loirmbs> i'll go to bed, good night everyone
[01:40] <nicholaspaul> gnoit
[01:40] <JDahl> Seveas, nalioth. great! thanks
[01:40] <nalioth> CrackersKeenan: the console is your friend, it will be there after your xserve packs it in and goes home
[01:41] <dalamar> haha
[01:41] <CrackersKeenan> nalioth: lol that is true
[01:41] <CrackersKeenan> anyway I have vlc, i'll try it now
[01:41] <K-Rich> Anyone know how to scp to a windows machine?
[01:41] <dalamar> crazy CLI hackers
[01:41] <K-Rich> heh
[01:41] <dalamar> i like pictures ;)
[01:42] <CrackersKeenan> vlc is working like a charm
[01:42] <corvus_ferrum> i'm trying to install a driver for my linksys wpc54gs wireless card using ndiswrapper, but i get an error message after i type sudo modprobe ndiswrapper that says: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[01:42] <K-Rich> i'm on the windows machine and need some files from my hoary system at home  :/
[01:42] <corvus_ferrum> any suggestions?
[01:42] <zerboxx> corvus_ferrum: wpc54g(2)?
[01:43] <corvus_ferrum> yea
[01:43] <Seveas> corvus_ferrum, use a 686 or k7 kernel
[01:43] <corvus_ferrum> wpc54gs
[01:43] <shamus> how do i switch to the defualt user of firefox? i rebooted and it made me create a new user
[01:43] <zerboxx> corvus_ferrum: First, are you using sudo? and secondly I've been told it wont work (that's what I have)
[01:43] <Seveas> and that card will indeed not work
[01:43] <CookdGryphon> Does anyone know if there's a beep-media-player plugin to put a track skipper thing on my panel?
[01:43] <corvus_ferrum> zerboxx: yeah, i am using sudo, but i tried just logged in as root and i got the same results
[01:44] <zerboxx> Seveas: Know if it will work with any other OS other than M$? (I doubt I can return it (another city, no reciept, etc) and dont make me go back)
[01:44] <Seveas> CookdGryphon, check beepmp.sourceforge.net
[01:44] <CookdGryphon> kk, thanks
[01:44] <robotgeek> zerboxx: obviously everyone has been telling you about the niceties of having a Prism based card?
[01:44] <Seveas> zerboxx, ENOCLUE
[01:44] <corvus_ferrum> Seveas: how do i do that?
[01:45] <glick> kontact is where its at!
[01:45] <glick> kontact owns evolution
[01:45] <zerboxx> Seveas: You say it doesn't work, but what about this? (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25643.html) (the link wont work for me, and I have both drivers anyways)
[01:45] <salkin> Has anyone else noticed that emacs won't start in breezy? (x86)
[01:46] <robotgeek> salkin: all hail breezy!
[01:46] <Seveas> zerboxx, I never tried the card. I just trust cafuego when he says it won't work :)
[01:46] <cafuego> salkin: Upgrade your CPU and double your ram.
[01:46] <zerboxx> Seveas: Ah, gotcha let me bug him then ;)
[01:46] <salkin> cafuego: ha :)
[01:46] <zerboxx> cafuego: You say it doesn't work, but what about this? (http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25643.html) (the link wont work for me, and I have both drivers anyways)
[01:46] <salkin> robotgeek: hello bot
[01:46] <salkin> robotgeek: all hail robots!
[01:47] <robotgeek> salkin: this robot is a vim fan!
[01:47] <drewfus> how do i get irc links to work in firefox?
[01:47] <salkin> robotgeek: I too am a vim fan. I cut my unix teeth with vi. But there are few if any superior alternatives to emacs for some tasks.
[01:47] <drewfus> sorry if its too off topic
[01:48] <glick> kontact may well be the greatest groupware app ever developed
[01:48] <glick> it does it all!
[01:48] <K-Rich> I'm on a windows machine and need files from my linux machine, can i use scp for this?, not sure how to display windows folders, as unix or dos :/
[01:48] <cafuego> zerboxx: looks promising, too bad tudelft has crapped itself (not surprising)
[01:48] <robotgeek> salkin: really ?
[01:48] <K-Rich> or should i stick to sftp?
[01:49] <nalioth> krischan: scp or sftp as long as you have a ssh server on your windows box
[01:50] <salkin> robotgeek: yes, really. For example, the Superior Lisp Interaction Mode for Emacs (SLIME) is among the best Lisp development environments ever.
[01:50] <K-Rich> no scp server on the windows box, i'm using puTTy to ssh into the linux box
[01:50] <robotgeek> salkin: ah, lisp. but then again, vim is a text editor :)
[01:50] <cafuego> zerboxx: I'll give it  atry, once I remembers what I've done with that card (if it didn't go out with the garbage)
[01:50] <robotgeek> salkin: u have tried the lisp mode in vim?
[01:50] <LasseL> K-Rich, get winscp
[01:51] <oblib_> _frank_ you still there? Should I not update the kernel?
[01:51] <salkin> :) I think someone did write a mode for emacs that lets you edit text ...
[01:51] <nalioth> K-Rich: then use whateve putty provides for sftp, then
[01:51] <K-Rich> thanks and LasseL i'll look into winscp
[01:51] <K-Rich> thanks nalioth
[01:51] <robotgeek> salkin: :)
[01:52] <Xenguy> K-Rich: yeh, pscp (CLI) or winscp (GUI)
[01:52] <salkin> robotgeek: I have. And, for a text editor mode, it's not awful. But it's not the same as having a connection to a running lisp image that I can change, reload, debug, etc. directly as I add code.
[01:53] <ghetek2> i cant open a folder from the command line
[01:53] <ghetek2> i purposely dont have x
[01:53] <robotgeek> salkin: okay, whatever floats your boat :)
[01:54] <salkin> robotgeek: :) but sadly my "boat" is silently failing before the window appears, even when launched from console.
[01:54] <robotgeek> salkin: not good, not good
[01:55] <salkin> robotgeek: well off to check bugzilla...
[01:55] <robotgeek> anyways, gotta head out now...grub time!
[01:55] <oblib_> I just installed a bunch of programs from Synaptic, and not all of them got put in the menus. Where would I find all of the executables?
[01:55] <nicholaspaul> gnite all !;)
[01:55] <_adam> night
[01:56] <salkin> oblib_: In synaptic if you right click an installed package and select properties, you can view a list of files in the package on one of the tabs. This may help.
[01:57] <_adam> When I try to apt-get bittorrent I get an invalid operation error in Terminal
[01:57] <salkin> oblib_: look for things added to /usr/bin or any of the bin directories
[01:57] <_adam> I did a apt-cache search and I'm typing the correct name...
[01:57] <salkin> /usr/share/menu files also have clues
[01:57] <oblib_> thanks seveas
[01:57] <oblib_> accidental paste
[01:57] <nalioths_dog> _adam: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:57] <nalioths_dog> _adam: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:58] <oblib_> thanks salkin -- new to Linux ya know
[01:58] <_adam> Thanks, where can I find a guide on compiling and installing apps that have been downloaded?
[01:58] <Seveas> _adam, you should not have to do that
[01:58] <salkin> oblib_: np, good luck with it
[01:58] <Seveas> you should install packages via the package manager
[01:58] <nalioth> Seveas: _adam is interested in bittornado, for example
[01:58] <Seveas> ah
[01:59] <Seveas> well in that case: install build-essential and read the README and INSTALL files that come with the application
[01:59] <_adam> Can I apt-get that directly
[01:59] <nalioth> _adam: i know that inside the bittornado zip, are instructions on how to install it
[01:59] <_adam> bittorado is supposed to already be compiles
[01:59] <cute_bettong> !codec
[01:59] <nalioth> _adam: yes, build-essential is available via apt
[01:59] <ubotu> cute_bettong: Are you smoking crack?
[02:00] <nalioth> foamy, wtf?
[02:00] <cute_bettong> anyone know how to get the mp3 codeces?
[02:00] <Seveas> !mp3
[02:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[02:01] <cute_bettong> and there was another codec that i got that i can't seem to remember what it was
[02:02] <ghetek2> so i have a folder that i cant get into...
[02:02] <can-o-worms> how can i get some modules loaded when the machine boots?
[02:02] <dv_> hi
[02:02] <Seveas> can-o-worms, add their names to /etc/modules
[02:02] <_adam> Whenever I try to apt-get now I keep getting an invalid operation error...
[02:02] <_adam> no matter what it is
[02:02] <dv_> is it possible to install fonts without restarting X?
[02:02] <can-o-worms> Seveas: too easy, thanks
[02:03] <cafuego> dv_: Yes
[02:03] <cafuego> dv_: copy them to ~/.fonts; run 'set fp rehash', done.
[02:03] <dv_> I have a couple of TTF's
[02:03] <dv_> ok
[02:03] <can-o-worms> Seveas: could yyou also tell me how to stop the powernowd at boot?
[02:03] <Shefa> Hello everybody
[02:03] <cafuego> dv_: sorry, 'xset fp rehash'
[02:03] <Seveas> can-o-worms, does it have its own initscript?
[02:04] <Seveas> if so: update-rc.d -f initscript_name_here remove
[02:04] <juanej> anyone using thunar?
[02:04] <cafuego> or if you don't want powernowd, just uninstall it
[02:04] <can-o-worms> Seveas:  Seveas ok, thanks again
[02:04] <Shefa> I have a huge problem. My Ubuntu was loading up, and the power went out. After it came up again, i started Ubuntu again, but after it loaded everything, the screen went black(it is write before the login screen). What should I do
[02:05] <can-o-worms> cafuego: Seveas i thought powernowd was only for amd64
[02:05] <ghetek2> mmm
[02:05] <Shefa> I wuold appreciate any help. Is there anything like Mandrake, to check the file system, or something like scandisk
[02:05] <cafuego> can-o-worms: No. it's for ANY cpu that can do frequency scaling.
[02:05] <ncp> Shefa:  reinstall ?
[02:05] <cafuego> can-o-worms: Including athlonxp, pentium4, pemtium m
[02:05] <_adam> Can someone help me with a simple apt-get problem?
[02:05] <ncp> _adam:  just ask
[02:06] <nalioth> _adam: ask your question
[02:06] <nalioth> Shefa: can you hit <ctrl-alt-f3> and log in?
[02:06] <_adam> I keep getting a invalid operation error now, no matter what I am trying to retrieve.
[02:06] <nalioth> _adam: is it a single line error?
[02:06] <cafuego> _adam: What is the command you typed in?
[02:06] <_adam> yes
[02:06] <Shefa> Comncp: come on. You can't be serious. There should be an easier way
[02:06] <lJlolel> when i transcode in dvd::rip, I keep getting a failing to start/load encoder for any of the video codecs
[02:06] <Shefa> Nop. I have only black screen and nothing else
[02:06] <_adam> I typed "sudo apt-get bittorrent"
[02:07] <_adam> or similar, nothing will work
[02:07] <nalioth> Shefa: so hitting ctrl-alt-f3 does nothing?
[02:07] <Shefa> Can i just go into repair mode and do some checking from there(if it is possible) or at least to fix it up
[02:07] <nalioth> _adam: it's "sudo apt-get install bittorrent"
[02:07] <cafuego> Shefa: If there was an error on disk, the disk would have been scanned at boot time. More liklely a file WAS broken and got moved to /lost+found.  Log in at the console, check that dir, replac the original file.
[02:07] <ncp> _adam:  post error?
[02:07] <LasseL> Shefa, select rescue mode in the boot menu?
[02:07] <_adam> Let me try it.
[02:08] <_adam> There we go, thank you very much!
[02:08] <Shefa> nalioth: Nothing, absolutly nothing
[02:09] <Shefa> Ok, I'll do that now. I'll try it and I'll be back with an update. Thank you guys in advance
[02:09] <nalioth> Shefa: do as cafuego and LasseL have advised
[02:09] <lJlolel> actually, it says "failed to init encoder"
[02:10] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> how do I make something accesible through the file browser that I can acces only in the terminal as root?
[02:10] <LasseL> CrysCrysCrysCrys, change the owner and group to root
[02:10] <Xenguy> and shorten the nick :P
[02:10] <Shefa> Ok, thanks
[02:11] <Camo> :3
[02:11] <LasseL> CrysCrysCrysCrys, and make sure it isn't readable for 'world'
[02:11] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> LasseL, I don't know how to do all that.
[02:11] <Camo> im using AMD64 ubuntu.. and it is working great.. but i would like to switch it to I386, is this possible?
[02:12] <LasseL> CrysCrys, open a file browser (nautilus)
[02:12] <marsh> okok... more questions:
[02:12] <CrysCrys> Xenguy, if you were serious, it is done.
[02:12] <Seveas> CrysCrys, what would you like to make accessible?
[02:12] <Xenguy> CrysCrys: are you trying to prove you are a reasonable person? ;-)
[02:13] <LasseL> CrysCrys, find the file, right click it, select properties, then select the permissions tab
[02:13] <CrysCrys> Xenguy, It was a reasonable request.
[02:13] <marsh> networking/sharing connection - I have kubuntu machine on web & network, and route says default gateway is set (eth0) and eth1 is set to 192.168.0.0 (mask 255.255.255.0)
[02:14] <Xenguy> CrysCrys: my thanks
[02:14] <ncp> CrysCrys:  as root in terminal type "chmod 700 <file name>"
[02:14] <CrysCrys> LasseL, It says I am not the owner, and as such cannot alter permissions.
[02:14] <marsh> but what do I have to set on the other machine (ubuntu) to have it find that gateway? I've tried a few different combinations, but can't get a connection...
[02:14] <Seveas> marsh, 192.168.0.0 is an invalid address
[02:15] <mike_> i shall kill this hercules.
[02:15] <marsh> it's the destination in route, Seveas - it illegal in there?
[02:15] <LasseL> CrysCrys, ok the hard way then ... you only want root to read the file -- or is the other way around?
[02:15] <Seveas> marsh, no it's fine in there, sorry
[02:16] <marsh> Seveas: np... now I know it's an illegal adress to try to set it to on the network
[02:16] <nalioths_dog> _adam: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:16] <nalioths_dog> _adam: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:16] <LasseL> CrysCrys, sudo chown root:root /path/to/file && sudo chmod 600 /path/to/file makes it exclusive to root
[02:16] <marsh> Seveas: what do I have to do to the other machine to tell it to look here for a connection?
[02:17] <Seveas> marsh, do you want to share your internet connection?
[02:17] <marsh> Seveas: yes please!!!
[02:17] <CrysCrys> LasseL, I need to be able to read the mounted filesystem as a user on a livecd.
[02:17] <tag> java!
[02:18] <marsh> but can't seem to get my head around how to set the other machine to use the shared connection
[02:18] <Seveas> marsh, just install firestarter on the pc that has 2 NIC's
[02:18] <CrysCrys> so would I go do that same line except with group everywhere root is?
[02:18] <Seveas> and a dhcp server that listens only on the internal NIC
[02:18] <Camo> how would i convert an AMD64 system into an I386 system without completely reinstalling.. is there a way to change it?
[02:18] <Seveas> then the client can simply use dhcp
[02:18] <Seveas> Camo, no
[02:18] <LasseL> Crys, no
[02:19] <Seveas> reinstall is the only way
[02:19] <Camo> ok
[02:19] <poptones> can I get a bit of help regarding beagle cvs?
[02:19] <CrysCrys> camo, the everything needs to be reconfigured to your arch
[02:19] <marsh> Seveas: - sorry mate - noob - you lolst me on the 'dhcp that listens only on the internal card' bit :9
[02:19] <Camo> guess i just have to back everything up then :P thanks
[02:20] <CrysCrys> have fun, camo
[02:20] <Camo> should my xorg.conf be copyable to the new install?
[02:20] <Seveas> marsh, did you install firestarter?
[02:20] <Camo> it was a pain setting that thing up ><
[02:21] <CrysCrys> Lasell, if I am in the root terminal, I should be able to modify it, right?
[02:21] <Seveas> Camo, yes it should
[02:21] <Camo> yay!
[02:22] <Seveas> Camo, in fact: almost all config files should be copyable
[02:22] <Camo> i found the guide on how to copy everything to a archive file, so i got that handled i thinks
[02:23] <lJlolel> dvdrip says my encoders arent installed but they obviously are
[02:23] <lJlolel> since i can play xvids
[02:23] <ekimus> lJlolel: encoders aren't the same as decoders
[02:24] <ekimus> decoders are for playback
[02:24] <lJlolel> ekimus, oh, well i installed transcode form seveas's repository
[02:24] <lJlolel> but it keeps saying transcode's init failed
[02:24] <ekimus> sry i don't do encoding stuff just know some theory about it
[02:24] <lJlolel> k
[02:24] <CrysCrys> Okay, does noone know how?
[02:25] <Shefa> Ok guys I'm back
[02:26] <Camo> im using gparted to make a partition to backup.. what is a good filesystem?
[02:26] <ekimus> ext3
[02:26] <Seveas> (spam bot)
[02:26] <ekimus> or ext2 those are practically unbreakable
[02:26] <Shefa> So here is what I did-1:I tried again Crtl+ALT+F3 and nothing happens. 2.I checked the lost+found but it was empty. 3. I tied to run gnome or kde from the recovery mode, but it gave me again the black screen, but this time there was a mouse cursor as X right in the middle and it is not moving
[02:26] <Camo> k.. using ext3
[02:27] <Shefa> Any ither suggestions
[02:28] <ncp> Shefa:  reinstall takes like 1 hour :)
[02:28] <ekimus> yay all seven parts of nightmare on elmstreet...fially :)
[02:28] <ekimus> err finally
[02:28] <nalioth> Shefa: did you choose the rescue option at the boot prompt?
[02:29] <Shefa> ncp: Yap, I know that, but I can't reinstall the whole system every ime when the poer goes out, or there is a hard reboot, ot something like that-plus i'll loose everything that I previously installed. It took me a whole day to configure it properly and to make it according to wwhat i need
[02:30] <Camo> i am using tar cvpzf backup.tgz / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys to back up now
[02:30] <nalioth> Shefa: the rescue option
[02:30] <Shefa> nalioth: I don't have that option. I only have 1. The boot, 2. Rescu, 3.My other OS
[02:31] <nalioth> Shefa: choose rescue and run fsck
[02:31] <ncp> Shefa:  you should try reading about NFS if you got a server, mount your /home folder on your workstation, if something goes wrong i can always reinstall without losing any of my things
[02:32] <Camo> fsck! ><
[02:32] <Camo> hehe
[02:33] <Shefa> nalioth:what does the "fsck" do
[02:33] <darkheart> Shefa Filesystem check
[02:33] <nalioth> Shefa: File System ChecK
[02:33] <yonil> hello, i want to buy new speakers, and they come with a wired remote. how can i check the compatabilty of them with linux ?
[02:33] <Shefa> ncp: I don't have a server-it is a workstation that I have
[02:34] <ncp> also wrote if you had a server
[02:34] <nalioth> Shefa: ncp meant an nfs server, not your box
[02:34] <Shefa> nalioth: when Ubuntu is loading, it is checking the file system and it gives me no errors
[02:35] <Shefa> It is just when it tried to load up Ubuntu log in screen when it stalls
[02:36] <nalioth> Shefa: do you have a liveCD?
[02:36] <Shefa> Sorry guys if I am asking dumb questions but I'm just another guy who is new to Linux, and hates anything that has to do with Microsoft
[02:36] <Shefa> noalith:No, but i can make one
[02:37] <ekimus> Shefa: 1.) there are only dumb answers 2.) you don't have to hate microsoft to use linux
[02:37] <nalioth> Shefa: if you type the first letters of some1s nickname, and hit <tab> it will autocomplete
[02:37] <Seveas> Shefa, try this: sudo aptitude purge x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gdm
[02:37] <Seveas> and then reinstall them
[02:37] <Shefa> ekimus: You got a point, but honestly, XP is full of sh.....
[02:38] <ekimus> shiny icons?
[02:38] <ekimus> don't know last time i saw a windows desktop was NT4
[02:38] <Shefa> nalioth: thanks-good trick
[02:38] <shammy> How can I switch back to my default firefox profile? I hit the surgeprotector and caused and unexpected reboot
[02:39] <Seveas> aren't surgeprotectors meant to prevent this from happening *g*
[02:39] <Seveas> firefox -profilechooser
[02:40] <Shefa> Seveas: reinstall them from where
[02:40] <Seveas> firefox -ProfileManager
[02:40] <Seveas> ^-- shammy
[02:40] <Seveas> with aptitude
[02:40] <Seveas> sudu aptitude install ubuntu desktop
[02:40] <Seveas> (and everything else that gets removed
[02:40] <Seveas> )
[02:40] <cyphase> sudo*
[02:41] <Seveas> *g*
[02:41] <Seveas> I have about 10 aliases for sudo
[02:42] <ekimus> hehe, i bet my box is the "most secure" in here speaking of sudo and NOPASSWD: ;)
[02:42] <Shefa> Thanks a lot. I'll try to fix it up again
[02:42] <shammy> Seveas, it's still telling me that default is in use, what do i need to do?
[02:42] <zeus1_> get akk
[02:43] <zeus1_> hey all*
[02:43] <darkheart> Nice typo =)
[02:43] <shammy> how can i kill the firefox process, i'm used to windows where you would just go into processes and end it
[02:43] <zeus1_> Um....is it possible to set up a DUAL BOOT with ubuntu and XP
[02:43] <ekimus> shammy: alt+f2 xkill enter click on     firefox...
[02:43] <silverton> yes
[02:43] <darkheart> shammy You can try 'killall firefox'
[02:43] <gigaclon> yeah
[02:43] <zeus1_> cuz i want to have linux....but want windows for compatability reasons
[02:44] <gigaclon> install windows first
[02:44] <zeus1_> i did....its been installed for weeks
[02:44] <niran> is muine crashy for anyone else?
[02:44] <Shefa> zeus1_: Yap, tha's what i have, but first you need to install Xp, and after Ubuntu
[02:44] <zeus1_> i just  reformated 2 weeks ago
[02:44] <zeus1_> so can i install it now...since xp has been installed for a few weeks
[02:44] <gigaclon> yeah
[02:44] <Shefa> YAP
[02:44] <zeus1_> cause i have the iso burned on the cd
[02:45] <Shefa> zeus
[02:45] <zeus1_> ye
[02:45] <shammy> ahk i killed the wrong program, terminatred xchat
[02:45] <darkheart> We noticed =)
[02:45] <Seveas> shammy, pkill firefox
[02:45] <Shefa> zeus1_: You can do that. Make sure that they are on different drives, ot partitions
[02:45] <ekimus> shammy: unlikely you're still here
[02:45] <zeus1_> ya....i have 2 HDs
[02:45] <zeus1_> a new one 160 gigs....and the slave 80 gig
[02:46] <shammy> Seveas, it didn't work
[02:46] <zeus1_> i want 2 have windows xp as the master 160 gig and linux as the slave
[02:46] <Shefa> zeus1_: Try it. I works fine on my machine.
[02:46] <shammy> default is still in use
[02:46] <zeus1_> how
[02:46] <zeus1_> how do u make it on seperate hard drives
[02:46] <shammy> ekimus, what's unlikely?
[02:46] <ekimus> shammy: if you'd killed your irc client you wouldn't be here...
[02:47] <shammy> ekimus, exactly, and that's why i disconnected :P
[02:47] <Camo> oops.. i forgot to backup using root.. is that gonna cause any problems?
[02:47] <Agniruco> hi all, i want install the kylix 3 enterprise on my ubuntu 5.04 box ...
[02:47] <Agniruco> someone can help me?
[02:47] <darkheart> Camo Only if some files were only readable by root
[02:47] <zeus1_> can any1 tell me how i can have linux on one HD and xp on the other...
[02:48] <shammy> zeus1_, are you on windows right now?
[02:48] <_SWAT_> zeus1_, winxp and ubuntu works perfectly (have it running here)
[02:48] <zeus1_> yes
[02:48] <shammy> well, when you install ubuntu
[02:48] <zeus1_> i no it works....but how do u put it on another HD to install
[02:48] <shammy> tell it to install to the slave harddrive
[02:48] <_SWAT_> exactly
[02:48] <zeus1_> ahh
[02:48] <shammy> and when it talks about the bootloader, put it on the master boot record of /dev/hda
[02:49] <zeus1_> master boot record....what if that gets messed up
[02:49] <shammy> it won't
[02:49] <zeus1_> will i b screwed
[02:49] <shammy> but if it does
[02:49] <shammy> you can pop in the xp disc
[02:49] <shammy> press r
[02:49] <shammy> and run the command fixmbr
[02:49] <zeus1_> h/o....writing this down
[02:49] <shammy> but i've never had it mess up my mbr
[02:49] <ncp> i run xfce4 as desktop, but gnome has some good utils to samba an windows share, could anyone give the names of those programs?
[02:50] <_SWAT_> ncp, you mean the ones in the gnome menu?
[02:50] <ncp> _SWAT_:  yes :)
[02:51] <_SWAT_> ncp, if I remember correctly you just need to enter (in a browser or something) smb://ipofyourwindowspc/sharename/
[02:51] <shammy> So what is another way to kill the firefox process? pkill firefox didn't do it, apparently
[02:51] <_SWAT_> then you can access the windows share :)
[02:51] <zeus1_> so....
[02:51] <ekimus> open a console enter "killall -9 firefox-bin"
[02:51] <_SWAT_> shammy, do a "ps -aux | grep firefox" then just kill the pid
[02:51] <zeus1_> whats the worst that could happen....
[02:52] <shammy> you don't get ubuntu working
[02:52] <shammy> i suppose
[02:52] <zeus1_> i mean...what if the bios gets mesed
[02:52] <shammy> the bios?
[02:52] <shammy> how would it
[02:52] <ncp> _SWAT_:  well gnome has a good tool where you can add shourtcuts to your desktop, an its possible to input username an passwd ...
[02:52] <rimu> hmm
[02:52] <zeus1_> because your messing around with the mbr
[02:52] <rimu> have i made it??
[02:52] <rimu> looks like it :)
[02:52] <shammy> zeus1, the mbr doesn't affect the bios
[02:52] <zeus1_> o
[02:53] <shammy> zeus1_, have yo installed the second harddrive?
[02:53] <zeus1_> uhh ya
[02:54] <shammy> just making sure you knew what you were doing
[02:54] <zeus1_> tis empty at the moment
[02:54] <shammy> you put it on the slave right?
[02:54] <zeus1_> im going 2
[02:54] <zeus1_> when i install
[02:54] <rimu> heh
[02:54] <_SWAT_> ncp, just look it up in the samba docs, or google it. Or open the gnome shortcuts in a texteditor and look how it was used there
[02:55] <ncp> _SWAT_:  allready on it, but dont have gnome installede on my system :S
[02:55] <shammy> _SWAT_, i ran that command,.. but I have no idea which thing it returned is the proccess ID
[02:55] <rimu> by putting it on 'slave' he means moving the jumper so that you can  have 2 drives on the same cable
[02:55] <zeus1_> umm....what
[02:55] <shammy> the jumper
[02:55] <shammy> on the harddrive
[02:56] <orlok> always there are two.. a master and a slave..
[02:56] <shammy> needs to be set
[02:56] <shammy> as well as the one on the master
[02:56] <orlok> i find your lack of scsi... disturbing.
[02:56] <_adam> lol
[02:56] <zeus1_> i want it so.....that i have a choice of which OS to boot when i start up
[02:56] <dv_> what about serial ATA?
[02:56] <_adam> What distro is he using
[02:56] <ekimus> zeus1_: the small plastic thingie on the harddisk. you mostly find it on the side where the plugs are
[02:56] <_SWAT_> ncp, then just google it. It shouldn't be hard to find. Just learn to use google (or ubuntuforums.org for example)
[02:57] <zeus1_> ya....wats that got 2 do with installing this ubuntu
[02:57] <zeus1_> i am a bit confused :(
[02:57] <shammy> on your XP harddrive zeus1_ you need to set it to "master with slave present", and on the other harddrive you need to set it to slave. there should be diagrams on the drive itself
[02:57] <rimu> zeus1: i installed ubuntu last night. during the install process it takes care of all that for you. i now get a choice of XP or ubuntu
[02:57] <_adam> Same with me, GNOME comes stock.
[02:57] <shammy> zeus1_, on the back of a harddrive, there is a set of 6 pins
[02:57] <_adam> And is there a jumper?
[02:57] <shammy> and there's a little plastic thing that fits over two
[02:57] <ncp> _SWAT_:  iknow :) dont you use gnome? its a multi tool, where you can connect to ftp/nfs/windows share/samba/ssh just need the name :P
[02:58] <shammy> you need it in a specific spot
[02:58] <ekimus> shammy: that's the jumber
[02:58] <shammy> which the harddrive will say
[02:58] <rimu> how to add a  hard drive: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=%2Fdirectory%2Fworldwide%2Fen-gb%2Fharddrive.asp
[02:58] <shammy> ekimus, i'm well aware
[02:58] <shammy> but he isn't
[02:58] <ekimus> shammy: yeah misstyped :)
[02:58] <blrich> can someone help? trying to get wireless working with wpa_supplicant. already have my card working, just can't connect to the router
[02:58] <shammy> 's ok
[02:58] <zeus1_> but.....I can see the slave drive from "my computer"
[02:58] <zeus1_> so i guess its working
[02:58] <rimu> yes, that is a very good sign
[02:58] <rimu> you can probably just go ahead and install ....
[02:59] <zeus1_> ahh
[02:59] <zeus1_> whats all this buisness about jumper cables on the HD
[02:59] <rimu> forget it
[02:59] <zeus1_> and what does it have to do with installing ubuntu
[02:59] <zeus1_> oh
[02:59] <blrich> can someone help? trying to get wireless working with wpa_supplicant. already have my card working, just can't connect to the router
[02:59] <rimu> sounds like it's  all good. you're lucky
[02:59] <ekimus> damn "pi" is a somewhat sick movie
[02:59] <_adam> Anyone know the website for all the tutorials on installing things and compiling apps?
[03:00] <zeus1_> ya....my dad upgraded the hard drive...he does all the physical computer stuff....i kno the programming and graphic stuff
[03:00] <shammy> zeus1_, you should look in your bios before you assume anything
[03:00] <_SWAT_> ncp, dunno, can't see a name here
[03:00] <_SWAT_> ncp, just do it manually. Then you rock :D
[03:00] <ekimus> _adam: what you mean?
[03:00] <rimu> stick the CD in and reboot. the installer should start automatically. when it asks to install to hard disk 1 or hard disk 2, tell it 2
[03:00] <rimu> 1 is the windows one
[03:00] <zeus1_> ya the master right
[03:00] <ncp> _SWAT_:  hehe :) thing i'm just gonna use NFS, works alot better
[03:00] <rimu> yeah
[03:00] <shammy> ekimus, I think he wants to know the differnt ways to install, and how to compile from source
[03:00] <zeus1_> because i heard windows must ALWAYS be the master drive...or u have to trick it into thinking it is
[03:00] <ekimus> ah ok
[03:01] <orlok> ekimus: yeah, it is
[03:01] <_adam> There was some website that I was linked to earlier that had turorials on alot of ubuntu stuff including many of the apt-get commands
[03:01] <_SWAT_> I've just started using Fluxbox. Yet, I'm missing handy stuff like Gnome automounting (usb stick/digicam). How can I mount it automatically/easy and use it? Because I can't find my usbstick/digicam in /dev/
[03:01] <ekimus> _adam: wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[03:01] <rimu> yeah windows isn't really designed to play nice with others ;)
[03:01] <orlok> ekimus: thats by the guy that  did.. that other movie, right?
[03:01] <_SWAT_> ncp, NFS is faster than Samba, but less secure
[03:01] <shammy> _SWAT_, which of these is the pid james     8882  0.0  0.1   3032   724 pts/1    S+   20:54   0:00 grep firefox
[03:01] <kirtis> _SWAT_, add an entry for it in /etc/fstab and use mount
[03:01] <_adam> I think so.
[03:01] <ekimus> orlok: exactly :)
[03:01] <ncp> _SWAT_:  well its on a lan, so dont matter
[03:01] <orlok> ekimus: the junkie one!
[03:02] <zeus1_> k well....does ubuntu have a "Ctrl alt del" equivilent task manager
[03:02] <rimu> i dunno. i'm a noob too
[03:02] <rimu> it must do...
[03:02] <zeus1_> ah
[03:02] <blrich> can someone help? trying to get wireless working with wpa_supplicant. already have my card working, just can't connect to the router
[03:02] <zeus1_> so ubuntu is kinda for noobs to linux
[03:02] <_SWAT_> shammy, it should be 8882, but "grep firefox" is the thing you've just typed. There should be something else there
[03:02] <_SWAT_> kirtis, therefore I need a /dev/ entry :P
[03:02] <rimu> 8shrug*
[03:02] <rimu> *shrug*
[03:03] <rimu> it's just the fist one i've managed to get working
[03:03] <rimu> all others have been shit
[03:03] <ekimus> orlok: i have no idea i usually don't remember the actors. most of the time i don't even recognize the famous ones. but i can remember most of the dialogs once i saw it
[03:03] <kirtis> _SWAT_, it's probably called /dev/sda? where ? is some number
[03:03] <rimu> have tried about 5 different ones now...
[03:03] <zeus1_> which other ones did u use rimu
[03:03] <zeus1_> fedora...or something
[03:03] <rimu> redhat 8
[03:03] <rimu> phat linux
[03:03] <rimu> umm
[03:03] <zeus1_> dont u have to pay for red hat
[03:03] <rimu> some other linux
[03:03] <rimu> and some other one
[03:03] <rimu> i forget
[03:04] <rimu> no
[03:04] <shammy> _SWAT_, nope, that is the full message
[03:04] <zeus1_> i tryed knoppix on live cd....it was...ight
[03:04] <nalioth> zeus1_: noobs? i've been using linux for over 5 years and ubuntu is the best distro i've found
[03:04] <rimu> oh yeah i tried knoppix too
[03:04] <orlok> ekimus: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180093/
[03:04] <zeus1_> oh....i meant easy for noobs to use nalioth
[03:04] <shammy> zeus1_, it is
[03:04] <rimu> i think most of my problems came from the fact that i had 2 monitors
[03:04] <nalioth> zeus1_: easy for us old-timers to use, too
[03:04] <rimu> on the one computer....
[03:04] <shammy> that's what he meant I beleive
[03:04] <zeus1_> so....is it the perfect linux
[03:04] <rimu> now i don't
[03:04] <rimu> that is a matter of opinion
[03:04] <ekimus> nalioth: ubuntu is the one that suits best for desktop. (although i wouldn't put linux on a server, i tend to use bsd for that kind of stuff)
[03:05] <rimu> everyone will say different things
[03:05] <shammy> zeus1_, you need to find what the perfect linux for you is
[03:05] <nalioth> zeus1_: it is getting to that point
[03:05] <zeus1_> because i heard from my friend who is pro at linux that "mandrake/mandriva" is the bestt
[03:05] <nalioth> ekimus: true
[03:05] <zeus1_> or he claims to be pro
[03:05] <_SWAT_> shammy, then I guess firefox is dead @ your pc :D
[03:05] <rimu> if they're all free, then there is little risk in just trying out lots of them until you find one you like....
[03:05] <rimu> except time
[03:06] <zeus1_> rimu...do u have a dual boot going on
[03:06] <rimu> yeah
[03:06] <zeus1_> with linux and xp
[03:06] <zeus1_> nice
[03:06] <rimu> although i haven't tried to boot xp yet.....
[03:06] <zeus1_> o
[03:06] <rimu> not since the install
[03:06] <rimu> i DO get the choice though
[03:06] <_SWAT_> kirtis, that means that the name is variable. So if I use multiple USB storage devices, the fstab won't work properly, will it?
[03:06] <rimu> so i assume it hasn't busted XP! haha
[03:06] <zeus1_> can u play half life 2 on ubuntu....with the WINE emulator
[03:06] <ncp> zeus1_:  it depends on what dist. you like the most, gentoo,slackware,bsd,redhat,mandrake... they all have good an bad sides, choose the one you like best
[03:06] <nalioth> zeus1_: mandrake/mandriva is good except for one thing: RPM
[03:06] <rimu> i strongly doubt it
[03:07] <rimu> yeah, apt-get rocks
[03:07] <zeus1_> hmm thats a bad thing for me i guess....cuz i like to play PC games...the compatability might be an issue
[03:07] <ekimus> i think mandriva is the worst, don't know about suse atm but that _was_ definitely the worst a while ago, on the other hand suse is afaik the only distro that complies fully to FHS2
[03:07] <rimu> solves so many of the problems i had when i was banging my head against redhat
[03:07] <ncp> zeus1_:  linux isnt good with games, i would recommend windows for that
[03:07] <zeus1_> ahh
[03:07] <ekimus> ncp: depends on what you play
[03:07] <zeus1_> so i can boot up windows when i wanna game and ubuntu for other stuff
[03:07] <rimu> yeah
[03:07] <rimu> that's a common thing to do
[03:07] <ekimus> ncp: nethack :)
[03:07] <ncp> ekimus:  thats true
[03:07] <zeus1_> ahh
[03:07] <ncp> ekimus:  haha :P
[03:07] <rimu> zeus: want me to try booting up xp?
[03:07] <zeus1_> sure
[03:08] <rimu> ok. i'll be back in 5 - 10 minutes, i expect.
[03:08] <zeus1_> k
[03:08] <ekimus> hmm booting xp.... vmware does that nicely :)
[03:08] <zeus1_> vmware
[03:08] <zeus1_> ive herad of that
[03:08] <zeus1_> from my uncle...is it any good
[03:08] <ekimus> not for games
[03:08] <ekimus> no directx support
[03:08] <ekimus> quite handy to test network setups
[03:09] <zeus1_> oh
[03:09] <ekimus> but it eats a lot of ram
[03:09] <zeus1_> i c
[03:09] <ekimus> .oO(not to self: keep away from the enter key a bit more)
[03:10] <Camo> ack.. my backup is backuping my backup file.. even though i told it to exclude it ><
[03:10] <Seveas> orlok, switch that highly obnoxious script off in here
[03:10] <ekimus> Seveas: at least it's not an away nick :)
[03:10] <zeus1_> can ubuntu stream updates to itself ... like windows xp
[03:10] <ekimus> yes
[03:10] <Seveas> ekimus, this is more annoying...
[03:11] <zeus1_> nice...so i guess its very user friendly
[03:11] <din> brb
[03:12] <ekimus> hmm i define user friendly by adaptable to my needs. it's kind of a design question either let the user decide over every little detail or provide a better integrated system/framework/$favorite_term_here
[03:12] <zeus1_> ahh I see
[03:12] <zeus1_> uhh
[03:12] <zeus1_> you can run programs like photoshop with WINE on ubuntu right
[03:12] <zeus1_> or visual basic
[03:12] <ekimus> dunno no wine here
[03:13] <zeus1_> can u put it on ubuntu
[03:13] <shammy> Ok, everytime I try to go to this site, my wifi connection goes down
[03:13] <shammy> that's very strange
[03:14] <rimu> yeah, XP boots fine
[03:14] <zeus1_> nice....
[03:14] <Camo> backup..taking...so...long
[03:14] <zeus1_> and u can install it at any time right
[03:14] <ekimus> i _think_ wine can run photoshop now. but you could always use gimp or other equivalents of windows software
[03:14] <nalioth> zeus1_: there are linux programs that do simliar things to photoshop and visual basic
[03:15] <rimu> yeah
[03:15] <zeus1_> ya...I know about GIMP but i have PS which is obviously better so I dont see any reason not to use it...
[03:15] <nalioth> zeus1_: so use it on windows via qemu
[03:15] <ekimus> zeus1_: visualbasic isn' a very good choice if you run linux you'd still be developing windows apps. try something like python or ruby to develop apps
[03:15] <rimu> i've been looking into python. i currently do a lot of VB
[03:15] <zeus1_> ah....what about java isnt that X-paltform
[03:15] <rimu> it's quite a chnge
[03:15] <rimu> change....
[03:15] <Seveas> for the better :)
[03:15] <zeus1_> X - Platform *
[03:16] <rimu> yes, supposedly
[03:16] <rimu> in practice, you often need to do a bit of extra work to get java working on all platforms...
[03:16] <ekimus> java _is_ a plattform (an ugly one) but yes there's a linux version for x86 architecture
[03:16] <rimu> to get a java app working on all platforms, i meant
[03:16] <Camo> little question about archiving.. if i make an archive then it sends the archive to where i just CD'd to right?
[03:16] <zeus1_> ah i see
[03:16] <ekimus> Camo: yes
[03:17] <Camo> thanks
[03:17] <z3r0_d> is there a graphical config tool to edit xorg.conf? or another preferred method? [ubuntu is starting at 640x480 at 60hz] 
[03:17] <rimu> yeah there is
[03:17] <dabar> Is talk that program that splits a terminal in two, to talk to another user?
[03:17] <ekimus> yes
[03:18] <dabar> yes me?
[03:18] <rimu> system->preferences->screen resolution
[03:18] <ekimus> dabar: yes
[03:18] <zeus1_> so .... ubuntu can run bigger than 640 x 480
[03:18] <rimu> yes to z3r0
[03:18] <z3r0_d> rimu, it shows only 640x480
[03:18] <rimu> ahh
[03:18] <zeus1_> my screen is 1280 x 1042....does ubuntu support that
[03:18] <rimu> yeah
[03:18] <rimu> zeus
[03:18] <ekimus> zeus1_: for the sake of it get a cd and just try it out
[03:18] <rimu> it does
[03:18] <zeus1_> k
[03:18] <rimu> zeus: you can use the live CD, to try it out WITHOUT it installing anything on your hard disk
[03:19] <rimu> it runs off the CD
[03:19] <zeus1_> live cd I will try that tonight
[03:19] <zeus1_> ya...i did knoppix live cd
[03:19] <rimu> right
[03:19] <ekimus> zeus1_: if you are developing you should have enough skill to work your way into it. and if you like it configure everything and if not get rid of it
[03:19] <rimu> z3r0: ubuntu probably hasn't detected your graphics card properly
[03:19] <rimu> it'll be using some default, most basic, works-with-everything driver
[03:19] <z3r0_d> the livecd did... but regardless, is there a less-manual way to make it work?
[03:20] <dabar> ekimus: do you know if there is a daemon that needs to be installed for it to work?
[03:20] <rimu> yeah i dunno, sorry. this is my 2nd day of ubuntu
[03:20] <dabar> whether there is, rather,.
[03:20] <z3r0_d> oh, okay rimu
[03:20] <ekimus> dabar: hmm talkd maybe
[03:20] <shammy> zeus1_ versions of BASIC run on linux
[03:20] <ekimus> dabar: man talk should tell you
[03:20] <Camo> how would i CD to dev/hdc1?
[03:20] <shammy> but aren't very widely used anymore
[03:20] <Camo> it says its not a directory
[03:20] <dabar> ekimus: didnt, Ill read again.
[03:20] <rimu> zeus: google shows many results for 'wine photoshop'
[03:21] <ekimus> Camo: you don't cd there because it's not a directory
[03:21] <zeus1_> ya
[03:21] <Camo> how would i make an archive go to there?
[03:21] <dabar> heh, there is a talkd.
[03:21] <rimu> which is promising...
[03:21] <ekimus> Camo: that is the first partition of your slave device on he ide channel (second harddisk for most people
[03:21] <ekimus> =
[03:22] <ekimus> Camo: you need to mount it to access /dev/hdb1
[03:22] <zeus1_> ight....DLing ubuntu live cd
[03:22] <rimu> has anyone managed to get 2 monitors working on ubuntu??
[03:22] <dabar> I <3 #ubuntu, thanks, ekimus.
[03:22] <rimu> good work
[03:23] <zeus1_> i cant wait to get this baby up and running
[03:23] <Camo> hehe.. that sounds dirty.. er.. i mean.. where do i find instructions for mounting HD?
[03:23] <ekimus> rimu: not ubuntu but some other distros. on tldp.org there's a generic howto about it
[03:23] <daini> is it possable to read logical volumes from a live ubuntu?
[03:23] <rimu> thanks
[03:23] <ekimus> Camo: man mount
[03:23] <yonil> Hello, i need help: I have a program which needs the module nvram. the thing is, it must be root in order to load the module, and i dont want the application to run as root. is there a way to make a module runnable not only by root ?
[03:23] <DarkFuture> i messed around with my respitory thingy and i messed it up any know where i can like fix it?
[03:23] <ekimus> daini: yes (if you mean partitions)
[03:24] <rimu> http://tldp.org/ looks like a good resource!
[03:24] <ekimus> yonil: load the module before you starrt the app
[03:24] <dabar> rimu, is an ok one, prolly the central linux one.
[03:25] <_adam> Is there any way to fix this annoying KDE lock-up when using a 64bit processer?
[03:25] <ekimus> _adam: the #kubuntu guys may know better
[03:25] <ekimus> damn i'm so bored...need to get some sleep
[03:25] <z3r0_d> what console text editors does ubuntu come with?
[03:25] <dabar> does anyone know about that where you chmod the command to have a S in the front of permissions, and does that make it run as root?
[03:26] <yonil> ekimus, i do (it is in /etc/modules) i still get Unable to open device /dev/nvram: Permission denied - unless i run it as root
[03:26] <_adam> thanks
[03:26] <ekimus> z3r0_d: nano
[03:26] <z3r0_d> cool, thanks ekimus
[03:26] <ekimus> yonil: "ls -l /dev/nvram" what does it say?
[03:26] <rimu> z3r0: probably all the usuals
[03:26] <DarkFuture> where can i get new respitory files??
[03:27] <yonil> ekimus, crw-rw----  1 root nvram 10, 144 2005-08-27 04:17 /dev/nvram
[03:27] <rimu> no emacs tho
[03:27] <cafuego> DarkFuture: uh, breathe in?
[03:27] <ekimus> yonil: modify your user so that he belongs to the nvram group and relogin
[03:27] <daini> ekimus: yup, have some files that need to be taken off them, but ubuntu doesnt auto mount if from the live cd
[03:27] <benplaut> can someone explain to me what a spambot is?
[03:27] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me where I can find the synaptic smart install?
[03:28] <ekimus> yonil: because the nvram group has read and write permissions to that device (as you can see from the command output)
[03:28] <zeus1_> ever played diablo 2 benplaut
[03:28] <ekimus> benplaut: a program to annoy others probably
[03:28] <yonil> ekimus, yes i see, i will do that thanks
[03:28] <rendi> sir
[03:28] <medamaybe> benplaut: a piece of software that spams irc, mail, or something like that
[03:28] <rendi> help me
[03:28] <benplaut> ahh
[03:28] <rendi> i wan to install gaim
[03:28] <rendi> sudo apt-get install gaim
[03:28] <nima> hello
[03:28] <rendi> and
[03:28] <rendi> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:28] <rendi>   gaim: Depends: gaim-data (= 1:1.4.0-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1) but 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.4 is to be installed
[03:28] <rendi> E: Broken packages
[03:29] <rendi> err like that
[03:29] <medamaybe> where can I find the synaptic smart install ?
[03:29] <benplaut> then why does making an #ubuntu-unregged make any difference?
[03:29] <ddtcomp> anyone has information on installing ati all in wonder 8500dv with tv capavility?
[03:29] <Seveas> rendi, do NOT paste in here
[03:29] <nima> I am really new to linux, i have download winrar for linux but i dont know how to run it ! .. ?
[03:29] <cafuego> DarkFuture: run 'apt-setup' to fix the sources.list
[03:29] <ShakeZula> Hiall
[03:29] <Seveas> and disable the friggen backports if they give errors
[03:29] <z3r0_d> rimu: I don't expect to find emacs, and I am not competent with vim
[03:29] <cafuego> benplaut: See rendi?
[03:29] <cafuego> benplaut: Like that, but in perl ;-)
[03:29] <medamaybe> lol@cafuego
[03:30] <ddtcomp> anyone has information on installing ati all in wonder 8500dv with tv capavility?
[03:30] <z3r0_d> ddtcomp, good luck
[03:30] <medamaybe> that's probably the best description of a spambot I've heard :)
[03:30] <benplaut> i'm hoping that was a jke
[03:30] <ShakeZula> Got a problem unzipping a program...
[03:30] <ekimus> Seveas: how does ubotu work? nima need to know about repos and unrar-nonfree
[03:30] <rendi> to many problem
[03:30] <rendi> what happen
[03:30] <Seveas> !repos
[03:30] <rendi> last nigh not today
[03:30] <ubotu> Seveas: I give up, what is it?
[03:30] <Seveas> !rar
[03:30] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you on ritalin?
[03:30] <Seveas> damn you ubotu
[03:30] <cafuego> ubotu: are you broken again?
[03:30] <ubotu> cafuego: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:30] <ekimus> ah ok "!"
[03:30] <Camo> ack.. backup is being a pain.. canceling operation till tomarrow
[03:30] <z3r0_d> ddtcomp, it isn't trivial in any linux install
[03:30] <Seveas> ubotu, you broken
[03:30] <cafuego> i swear...
[03:30] <ubotu> Seveas: What?
[03:30] <cafuego> ubotu: stupid bot
[03:30] <ubotu> cafuego: Not a clue
[03:30] <Seveas> ok, the thing is kaput
[03:31] <ekimus> nima: you want "sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree"
[03:31] <Seveas> !mp3
[03:31] <ubotu> Seveas: I give up, what is it?
[03:31] <cafuego> yeah, its busted (again) (again)
[03:31] <benplaut> !bad bot
[03:31] <ubotu> benplaut: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:31] <ShakeZula> I downloaded MAngband, and was trying to unzip it and I got the following error:
[03:31] <ShakeZula> cp: cannot stat `/tmp/fr-wWMYoY/mangclient-061.glibc-2.1.linux': No such file or directory
[03:31] <nima> wats dat ekimus? Sorry i am really nw to linux
[03:31] <daini> ekimus: ok, checked in the Device Manager, ubuntu can "see" the partition but is "unknown"
[03:31] <benplaut> apparently they do :P
[03:31] <cafuego> and stay out
[03:31] <Seveas> hmm, thought he would have auto-rejoin on
[03:31] <Seveas> sorry cafuego :)
[03:31] <rendi> can help me Sir ?
[03:31] <cafuego> Seveas: kill -9 trumps auto-rejoin ;-)
[03:31] <rendi> Sir cafuego
[03:31] <ekimus> nima: ok, go to synaptics and search for unrar. install it and then you should be able to unpack rar files
[03:31] <ShakeZula> Any ideas?
[03:32] <cafuego> rendi: Don't call me sir, please. It's offensive.
[03:32] <rendi> :P
[03:32] <Seveas> cafuego, *g*
[03:32] <amonkey> is there something like gspot for linux?
[03:32] <ekimus> daini: try "sudo mount /dev/<yourdevice> /mnt", then you should be able to access the data under /mnt
[03:32] <rendi> i wann to install gaim
[03:32] <rendi> it say's E: Broken packages
[03:33] <benplaut> whatever, Mr. Cafuego :P
[03:33] <ShakeZula> the file is called mangclient-061.glibc-2.1.linux.gz
[03:33] <ekimus> amonkey: most people don't even know about "gspot for women" why should it be so easy to find it in linux?
[03:33] <Seveas> rendi disable the friggen backports if they give errors <---
[03:33] <amonkey> ekimus, do you know the program i'm talking about?
[03:33] <nima> i have already downloaded Winrar but its got no bin file and i dont know how to install it ? same with mpg123! ..
[03:33] <cyphase> breezy should auto start an X client when you press F7 - F12
[03:33] <ekimus> amonkey: actually i have no idea :)
[03:34] <cafuego> rendi: run apt-get update; apt-get install gaim
[03:34] <ekimus> nima: winrar is not usable under ubuntu
[03:34] <nima> ohh ok i got linux version i tought ubuntu used linux
[03:34] <Seveas> nima, apt-get install mpg321 unrar-nonfree
[03:34] <ekimus> nima: ah there's a linux version?
[03:34] <Seveas> enable universe & multiverse
[03:35] <cafuego> !bot
[03:35] <ubotu> cafuego: Wish i knew
[03:35] <nima> yes theres a linux version here :
[03:35] <rendi> thank's Sir Cafuego it's work
[03:35] <rimu> rendi: isn't gaim installed with ubuntu already?
[03:35] <ekimus> nima: anyway use the synaptic package manager that will save you a lot of troubles
[03:35] <cafuego> still broken, eh?
[03:35] <rendi> going off now
[03:35] <nima> http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm  Then linux up there
[03:35] <rendi> not yet rimu
[03:35] <rendi> fresh instalation
[03:35] <nima> where can i get synaptic package manager from?
[03:35] <Seveas> nima, system->admin->synaptic
[03:35] <ekimus> nima: you can find it under System -> Systemsomething (i don't have an english install here) and then synaptic
[03:35] <nalioth> nima: it's installed by default
[03:36] <vader1102> dern that was wierd
[03:36] <nalioth> nima: system > admin > synaptic
[03:36] <rendi> !tweak
[03:36] <ubotu> rendi: I don't know
[03:36] <rendi> !tweaking
[03:36] <ubotu> rendi: What?
[03:36] <Seveas> rendi, don't play with the bot
[03:36] <cafuego> !bot
[03:36] <Seveas> !mp3
[03:36] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to cafuego? I think not. Bot, bot... rhymings sucks.
[03:36] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:36] <Seveas> right :)
[03:37] <Seveas> back on track
[03:37] <nima> ok found it
[03:37] <nima> soo now how do i install my mpg123 .. with that ? or other pgoramd that dont have BIN file
[03:37] <Seveas> nima, you want mpg321 not mpg123
[03:37] <pfp> hmm. hoary live didn't have gparted, right?
[03:37] <nalioth> nima: fire up synaptic and browse it's offerings
[03:37] <rimu> LOL. program names for linux are such BS
[03:38] <ekimus> nima: generally you install thru synaptic not with downloaded files
[03:38] <nalioth> pfp: any program can be installed onto the livecd session
[03:38] <zeus1_> it can??
[03:38] <nima> Okk i will try figure it out, and 321 is better than 123?
[03:38] <nalioth> zeus1_: yes, it can
[03:38] <cafuego> of that shit crashes again, I swear I'm updating mysql.
[03:38] <nalioth> nima: they do 2 different things
[03:38] <Seveas> cafuego, to postgres?
[03:38] <Seveas> ;)
[03:39] <pfp> nalioth: aight, thanks
[03:39] <ekimus> nalioth: you know of any somewhat complete doc about unnecessary packages on the live cd i'm working on a remastered version and running out of space
[03:39] <cafuego> Seveas: No, I'll wipe Linux, install W2k3 and run Oracle.
[03:39] <ekimus> nalioth: besides the games and obvious stuff
[03:39] <zeus1_> how do u install something on live cd linux
[03:39] <Seveas> *shiver*
[03:39] <nalioth> ekimus: unnecessary is in the eye of the user
[03:39] <nalioth> zeus1_: use synaptic
[03:40] <zeus1_> i see....
[03:40] <Seveas>  system->admin->synaptic
[03:40] <ekimus> nalioth: i know. but i already removed all the shiny stuff and don't want to waste time on fixing what already works. (need to get java postgres and some more on the cd)
[03:41] <ekimus> s/get/put
[03:41] <nalioth> ekimus: remaster it for what YOU want it to do
[03:42] <nima> ok there is download mpg321....i386.rpm, src.rpm, i386.deb, tar.gz... which 1 do i need?
[03:42] <ekimus> eeks win+oracle.... bad combination for my taste
[03:42] <cafuego> ekimus: it's for ubotu
[03:42] <ekimus> nima: what do you want to do?
[03:42] <daini> brb
[03:42] <nalioth> nima:  use synaptic
[03:42] <nima> i'm at the downlod page!...
[03:42] <nima> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=36274
[03:43] <rimu> zeus: when running the live CD you can't really install much, because it can't write to the hard disk
[03:43] <nima> but theres lots of dif ones i dont know which one to download?
[03:43] <nalioth> nima: use synaptic to install mpg321
[03:43] <ekimus> nima: just use synaptic. it will download all the necessary stuff for you. no need to surf the web and search for software
[03:43] <rimu> it's just good for trying it out and seeing if it'll run on your system
[03:43] <nima> ohh ok
[03:43] <nalioth> nima: it will install the correct files for you
[03:44] <nima> umm i cant find mpg123 in synaptic only mpeglib and mpack
[03:44] <nima> mpg321*
[03:45] <nalioths_dog> nima: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:45] <nalioths_dog> nima: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:45] <Seveas> nalioth, update the dog
[03:45] <Seveas> 969 is the latest pastebin sources.list
[03:47] <ekimus> hmmm shouldn't piping thru tar be a little faster than cp?
[03:48] <cafuego> ekimus: No, why?
[03:48] <ekimus> thought i read somewhere some theoretical stuff about it
[03:48] <nalioth> dog has been on vacation
[03:48] <nalioth> apologys
[03:49] <Seveas> please keep an eye on the chat
[03:49] <Seveas> I'm off to bed
[03:49] <c0rrupt_> Pz nig
[03:49] <geneo93> funny i of the mandrake guys switched to kubuntu and dont maintain rpms anymore
[03:50] <benplaut> 'night Seveas
[03:52] <benplaut> anyone here know how to set up ubuntu on a Windows domain so it can login and access the roaming profile?
[03:53] <Xyc0> What is another HTML editor like Bluefish?
[03:53] <darkheart> Xyc0 I dunno if it's like it, but I've heard of people talking about nvu
[03:53] <darkheart> !tell Xyc0 about nvu
[03:54] <benplaut> nvu is wysiwyg
[03:54] <pfp> hmm, i did the opposite of that a week ago (ubuntu as a PDC)
[03:54] <nima> ok i installed it where does it install to ?
[03:54] <Xyc0> thanks darkheart
[03:55] <durt> anybody know of a more gnome oriented program like texmacs?
[03:55] <jsubl2> benplaut, what will you gain from a windows roaming profile if you are on linux
[03:55] <Xyc0> nvu looks like exactly what I need
[03:56] <pfp> benplaut: the official samba howto is quite comprehensive, but i guess you knew that already
[03:57] <nima> I installed MPG123, where does it install to though? how can i get the run file to go into applications / sound and video?
[03:58] <ekimus> doubleclick the file
[03:58] <nalioth> nima: to my knowledge, mpg123 is a console program
[03:58] <NeoFax> Installed ubuntu breezy colony 3 earlier and have updated and installed the debs I wanted to include KDE.  I am having a problem starting kde now.
[03:58] <daini> ekimus: found the problem, ubuntu has loged me on as a normal user and locked access to the drive, you wouldn't know what the password for root is from the live cd?
[03:58] <nalioth> wtf?
[03:58] <nima> ok in synaptic it says its installed but i dont know where it is!.. ?
[03:58] <ekimus> or open a terminal and type "mpg123 /path/to/file"
[03:58] <nalioth> dang Seveas. op and run
[03:59] <NeoFax> It is saying can't contact kdeinit
[03:59] <ekimus> daini: "sudo su -" to become root
[03:59] <nalioth> nima: as ekimus says
[03:59] <redguy> nima: you won't find it in the menus, the executable is installed in /usr/bin propably if that's what you want
[03:59] <nima> okk i type that nothing happen except it shows >
[03:59] <dabar> I get a HAL error, in a dialog box, when I start gnome-session. I am raelly trying to mount my digi camera, and I tried what I think was before the device, /dev/sda1, it is not there, and also, I tried starting gnome-volume-manager, to see whether it automounts...
[04:00] <daini> cool
[04:00] <daini> getting there!
[04:00] <theplateau> instead of burning an iso cant you just add an iso image to grub?
[04:00] <redguy> theplateau: nope
[04:01] <theplateau> that sucks
[04:01] <NeoFax> Any suggestions?
[04:01] <redguy> theplateau: you might mount the iso and copy the contents to the filesystem and add the kernal from the iso to grub i suppose
[04:01] <fluvvell> whats the easiest way to get modem dial on demand with ubuntu?
[04:02] <redguy> theplateau: installing from hard drive is in the install guide
[04:02] <Shefa> Hi guys, i'm back again
[04:03] <Shefa> Seveas: I did what you told me to do, here what happend->It gave me the lof in scren, i inputed my user name, then my pass. From that oint it started to load up ubuntu, but just to show me the desktp(partially-no buttons ot menus) it took about an hour). Any suggestions
[04:04] <e0f> after i type sudo apt-get install tftpd, in what mode i start it?
[04:04] <NeoFax> I can't get into any window manager. WTF
[04:04] <geneo93> theplateau:  you might beable to with lilo
[04:04] <benplaut> jsubl2, having your files go with you ;)
[04:04] <nalioth> Shefa: you installed "ubuntu-desktop"?
[04:04] <benplaut> pfp: actually, i didn't knwo it was a samba thing... thanks
[04:05] <jsubl2> benplaut, really did not know that worked.. would like to see the docs on setting that up..
[04:05] <nima> i still cant figure this out, ok i installed mpg321 done, But how the hell do i use it!??
[04:05] <redguy> e0f: what mode are you reffering to? AFAIR tftpd is started from (x)inetd
[04:05] <redguy> e0f: by default
[04:05] <Shefa> nalioth: yap I did-it said that everything went fine. It's just that it takes a while(extremly slow) just to load up the outlines of the desktop itself(about an hour)
[04:06] <nalioth> nima: ekimus told you how earlier. open a terminal and type mpg321 /path/to/file
[04:06] <e0f> redguy:  i want to start tftpd server on my local machine but i don't know how
[04:06] <dabar> shefa, when I have login issues, I delete /tmp.
[04:06] <dabar> everything in it.
[04:06] <sanzky> hi, I ve just installed hoary in mi HP laptop, but the function keys doesnt work, I tried xev but gives me nothing
[04:06] <nalioth> Shefa: try installing "kubuntu-desktop" and see if you can log into that quicker
[04:06] <NeoFax> I get xset: unable to open dispaly""
[04:07] <NeoFax> Then xsetroot: unable to open display ''
[04:07] <geneo93> gtg
[04:07] <Shefa> nalioth: I already did that-befor i did it, i didn't even get the log in screen. After i installed it, it started to do, what i explained earlier
[04:07] <nalioth> Shefa: and as dabar says, deleting everything in your /tmp won't hurt anything
[04:08] <fluvvell> sankzy: which hp laptop? I have a 6120 with hoary working well...
[04:08] <nalioth> Shefa: i'm pretty lost at this point
[04:08] <nima> ok i did that nalioth then it comes up with "High Performance MPEG 1.0/2.0/2.5 Audio Player for Layer 1, 2, and 3.
[04:08] <nima> Version 0.59q (2002/03/23). Written and copyrights by Joe Drew.
[04:08] <nima> Uses code from various people. See 'README' for more!
[04:08] <nima> THIS SOFTWARE COMES WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
[04:08] <nima> "
[04:08] <Shefa> Ok, I;ll give it a shot-Be back again
[04:08] <nima> sorry! **
[04:08] <sanzky> fluvell, it is a ze5500
[04:08] <redguy> e0f: tftpd is started by inetd or xinetd by default. you might want to edit /etc/hosts.allow to allow connections to your tftpd port. if you don't have inetd or xinetd (which is higly unlikely) yo might want to run tftpd in daemon mode. read man tftpd (or man in.tftpd ?)
[04:08] <rimu> so ubuntu is compiled for a 386.... i obviously have a 686... how much performance am i losing?
[04:09] <sanzky> they used to work with warthy
[04:09] <pfp> benplaut: i'm not sure if it's a good idea to keep your home dir on a windows/samba server, since window's filesystem doesn't have unix-like permissions
[04:09] <NeoFax> Where is $DISPLAY stored at in Ubuntu?
[04:09] <pfp> benplaut: (if that's what you're after)
[04:09] <Pickle_Weasel> bah @ registered names
[04:09] <nalioth> nima: no flooding please. use #flood or a pastebin (read the /topic)
[04:09] <fluvvell> sanzky: thats a pavillion right?  Have you tried the key setup utility?
[04:09] <Pickle_Weasel> anymoo, i need intel extreme graphics drivers, where would i find this? =o
[04:10] <e0f> redguy: yep, but /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa don't answer me
[04:10] <sanzky> fluvell, yes, pavillion, where is that utility? at hp website?
[04:10] <Pickle_Weasel> no one knows where i can find intel extreme graphics drivers? =\
[04:11] <fluvvell> sanzky:  Um, part of hoary... I'll just go look.  I was impressed with hoary, my wireless worked with very little effort
[04:11] <nalioth> nima: perhaps a visit to the  mpg321 website for instructions?
[04:11] <cafuego> Pickle_Weasel: they're in the X server. i915 or somesuch.
[04:11] <redguy> e0f: why do you want to have tftp anyway?
[04:11] <Pickle_Weasel> that's gibberish to me =o
[04:11] <cafuego> Pickle_Weasel: choose i9xx when X is configured
[04:11] <Pickle_Weasel> how would i go about actually enabling them? i am stuck with only one resolution >_<
[04:11] <e0f> redguy: 'cause i want to upgrade my router firmware
[04:11] <daini> ekimus: YES!!! did it! thanx for that!! awsome stuff
[04:12] <cafuego> !fixres
[04:12] <ubotu> it has been said that fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:12] <cafuego> Pickle_Weasel: Check that page
[04:12] <Pickle_Weasel> =o
[04:12] <Pickle_Weasel> ty =)
[04:12] <redguy> e0f: and you want to install a tftp *server* on your box?
[04:12] <cafuego> thank me IF it works, not before ;-)
[04:12] <sanzky> fluvell, mine also, my only problem is this one, i cant adjust brigthness or change the monitor
[04:13] <CrackersKeenan> My computer has two NICs.  If I connect one to "the internet", and another to a laptop, can I somehow set up my computer to run as a router so desktop and laptop can both be online?
[04:13] <NeoFax> Anyone have a problem with the latest breezy updates to Xorg?
[04:13] <e0f> redguy: yes, 'cause i want to transfer the firmware from my box to my router
[04:14] <nalioth> CrackersKeenan: yes you can. read this http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[04:14] <fluvvell> sanzky: I'm prob. on the wrong track, I was talking about keyboard shortcuts, where I got my multimedia keys to work on the desktop machine.
[04:14] <CrackersKeenan> nalioth: Thanks mate - you're a champ!
[04:14] <fluvvell> sorry
[04:15] <Pickle_Weasel> being stuck at 640x480 = not fun ='(
[04:16] <vader1102> Pickle_Weasel, I am @ 800x600 but I am used to it sort of
[04:16] <redguy> e0f: you might want to look at atftp, it is a tftp *client*. Though I can't be sure, your router should have a tftp *server* running
[04:16] <vader1102> until O can get a newer laptop
[04:16] <vader1102> I
[04:16] <Pickle_Weasel> i don't have the problem myself, i'm at a nice 1600x1200, but my pal has a fresh ubuntu install and is runnin 640x480
[04:16] <e0f> redguy: my router got a tftp, i want to know only in what mode i start tftpd on my box
[04:16] <redguy> e0f: oops it seems that atftp is a server as well, but I think you need a client
[04:17] <e0f> redguy: i got a client too
[04:17] <nima> ok another thing is there anyway to get Games like Sims 2 ext to work on linux?
[04:17] <fluvvell> sanzky: so system preferences->keyboard was of no use to you?
[04:17] <redguy> e0f: then I can't help you since I don't understand your question
[04:17] <e0f> lol
[04:17] <redguy> e0f: try connecting to the router with a client
[04:17] <sanzky> fluvvell, Im talking about the fn key, for adjusting brightness, volume, numlock, etc.
[04:17] <nalioth> nima: wine. you can read about it at www.winehq.org
[04:17] <sanzky> fluvvell, preferences didnt help
[04:18] <fluvvell> sanzky: ok, my fn key seems to work... I'll just pop over and try a couple of other things
[04:18] <paradizelost> Hey All!!!
[04:18] <fabsoft> hi, anyone know how getting working a hfc-pci isdn card with mISDN ?
[04:18] <paradizelost> can anyone help me with starting a program or running a command at system startup?
[04:18] <z3r0_d> the /var/log/Xorg.0.log suggests my issue is that the xorg.conf doesn't have modelines setup for my display, it tries a bunch of resolutions complains hsync out of range, then complains my settings don't have modelines
[04:18] <fabsoft> i dont find the appropriate module parameters ..
[04:18] <redguy> e0f: if you are sure that you need a tftp server I can't help you with tftpd-hpa since I never used it. If you install tftpd it is set up to be run by (x)inetd. You just would have to configure it a bit
[04:19] <e0f> redguy: the problem is very simple, i want to upgrade the firmware of my router, so i donwload on my box a latest firmware, and now i want to move this firmware in my router by tftp, but i don't know in what mode i start tftpd lol
[04:19] <paradizelost> i'm trying to find the equivalent to rc.local or local.startup
[04:19] <redguy> e0f: it is very likely that tftpd-hpa is also run by inetd
[04:19] <redguy> e0f: what is this mode you are reffering to?
[04:19] <fluvvell> sanzky: my brightness works, but the blue number keys with (fn) dont
[04:20] <nalioth> z3r0_d: at a terminal type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[04:21] <sanzky> fluvvell, they worked since the  instalation or you did something to make them work?
[04:21] <redguy> e0f: what I am saying is that most propably you don't need the tftp*d*, you just need a tftp client to connect to your router
[04:21] <nima> I cant believe it is so hard to play ONE mp3!... doesnt linux have a program like Windows media player but for linux?
[04:21] <cafuego> nima: Did you INSTALL an mp3 player?
[04:21] <z3r0_d> nalioth: sure, will do
[04:21] <antix> cafuego, xmms?
[04:22] <cafuego> antix: *any*
[04:22] <nalioth> nima: have you been to wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats   ? you need to set ubuntu up for mp3 playback
[04:22] <redguy> !tell nima about restricted formats
[04:22] <paradizelost> nima: http://ubuntuguide.org
[04:22] <redguy> !tell nima about bmp
[04:22] <redguy> !tell paradizelost about ubuntuguide
[04:23] <e0f> redguy: yep, but tell me how i start tftpd ?
[04:23] <paradizelost> too bad that wiki.ubuntu.com doesn't work.
[04:23] <user1> I want to try to get Oracle to run on Ubuntu. Has anyone tried this?
[04:23] <durt> !ubuntuguide
[04:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[04:23] <paradizelost> now it does....
[04:23] <paradizelost> got a timeout
[04:24] <concept10> is the spamming gone?
[04:24] <nalioth> paradizelost: what?
[04:24] <nalioth> concept10: yes, you can put away your umbrella
[04:24] <concept10> heh
[04:24] <concept10> nalioth: what the hell was that?
[04:24] <cafuego> e0f: tftpf runs from inetd, it is started BY inetd when a packet is received on port .. what is it, 67?
[04:25] <e0f> cafuego: i setup tftpd but i don't find it
[04:25] <cafuego> e0f: /usr/share/doc/tftpd/
[04:25] <cafuego> e0f: read
[04:25] <e0f> thanks man
[04:25] <paradizelost> ubuntuguide may not have explanation, but it works to get everything for dvd playback, mp3 playback, xvid, etc... working on ubuntu
[04:25] <redguy> e0f: in.tftpd -l
[04:25] <nalioth> concept10: was just a clonebot attack (courtesy of wm gates)
[04:25] <fluvvell> sanzky: no, they worked since installation.  Mines a different model though, It's not clear where to look for help on this one
[04:26] <kdibble> smeg backport appears to create .local and .config owned by root instead of real user, can anyone confirm?
[04:26] <Xorlev> Bah, damn flash player. Those huge flash ads that hover over the actual site, but you click the X and it looks fine...but not to me. I see a huge white box.
[04:26] <nalioth> paradizelost: yes, for unix using folks coming to ubuntu, it works great. for new (to *nix) users, it can be quite a road in the wrong direction
[04:26] <cafuego> Xorlev: There is this nice firefox extension that  blocks flash.
[04:26] <sanzky> fluvvell, Ill continue searching, thanks for your time
[04:26] <sanzky> see ya
[04:26] <nalioth> Xorlev: you are really lucky. i had to script my system(s) not to play flash
[04:27] <paradizelost> how do i run a command on system startup,  not looking for something like inittab, but closer to startup.local or something like that.
[04:27] <cafuego> paradizelost: the problem is, people read and paste stuff (as root!) without ever understanding why or what it does.
[04:27] <paradizelost> that is true.
[04:27] <fluvvell> sanzky: good luck, if you find an answer, post it somewhere searchable
[04:27] <robertbb> paradizelost: Stick in an init script in a desired runlevel.
[04:27] <cafuego> paradizelost: That kind of thing shouldn't be encouraged
[04:28] <cafuego> paradizelost: You can plonk it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:28] <z3r0_d> nalioth: yay... much better
[04:28] <paradizelost> k.
[04:31] <moomooboy> FINALLY..
[04:31] <moomooboy> i was asking questions on the other channel :(
[04:32] <moomooboy> n i kept getting spammed >.<
[04:32] <cafuego> which other channel?
[04:32] <moomooboy> #ubuntu-unregister?
[04:32] <moomooboy> anyway i got a question guys/girls
[04:32] <cafuego> ah thanks, i'll join and annoucen (Seveas has gone to bed)
[04:32] <rob^> anyone know why the wheel on my mouse isn't working in breezy?
[04:32] <moomooboy> whats my root password to my ubuntu ><??
[04:33] <Xenguy> !root
[04:33] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:33] <moomooboy> disable?
[04:33] <cafuego> moomooboy: Yes, you don't need it.
[04:33] <Ignignoktt> the uboto knows all
[04:33] <pax_> your root password is what you set it to be, sudo passwd root
[04:33] <redguy> moomooboy: read the wiki
[04:33] <Xenguy> moomooboy: read :-)
[04:33] <Ignignoktt> could anyone help me installing Zsnes in ubuntu?
[04:33] <nalioth> z3r0_d: VESA will drive anything
[04:33] <moomooboy> arent i suppose to type in CLI su?
[04:33] <moomooboy> and then enter the password?
[04:33] <Xenguy> read
[04:34] <moomooboy> so its sudo for ubuntu?
[04:34] <guilhermee> how i update my kubuntu to breezy ?
[04:34] <moomooboy> okok
[04:34] <cafuego> moomooboy: No, 'sudo <command>'
[04:34] <z3r0_d> yeah, its probably what the livecd uses... which is why it worked
[04:34] <cafuego> moomooboy: Then your own password
[04:34] <z3r0_d> for now it is sufficent
[04:34] <pax_> guilhermee: ask in #kubuntu
[04:34] <nalioth> redguy: robertbb: sey yourselves +E and you will cut down on your incoming spam PMs
[04:34] <Xenguy> juanej: please turn that off
[04:34] <guilhermee> pax_, ok
[04:34] <moomooboy> this community rox ^^...
[04:34] <moomooboy> i guess ill start asking how to do perl in here too keke...
[04:35] <cafuego> moomooboy: too right mate
[04:35] <Ignignoktt> could anyone help me with the installation of amule or zsnes?
[04:35] <moomooboy> for my homework hehe.... ^^.. anyone perl master's here ? ^^?
[04:35] <cafuego> i think perl training australia has a mailing list ;-)
[04:36] <moomooboy> ill pay a $1/AUD an hour hehe.. thru paypal hehe.. anyone wanna take the job hahaa... and help me out with perl hehe
[04:36] <moomooboy> umm another question ..
[04:36] <moomooboy> what is eubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:36] <Ignignoktt> edbuntu is for like schools and stuff
[04:36] <Ignignoktt> i think kubuntu is like k12 stuff
[04:36] <pax_> in short kubuntu is unbuntu=KDE
[04:37] <pax_> s/=/+
[04:37] <moomooboy> whats the difference between KDE and GNOME?
[04:37] <moomooboy> they look the same to me?
[04:37] <cafuego> moomooboy: They do?
[04:37] <z3r0_d> natilus and konqueror
[04:38] <nalioth> kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde
[04:38] <moomooboy> i guess i havent really looked into it yet ^^..
[04:38] <moomooboy> ah i see..
[04:38] <nalioth> edubuntu is for educational use
[04:38] <NeoFax> Anyone know why KDE or GNOME do not work in Breezy right now?
[04:38] <nalioth> NeoFax: nothing works in breezy atm
[04:38] <redguy> NeoFax: maybe because Breezy is not radey yet?
[04:38] <nalioth> moomooboy: kde uses the QT toolkit and gnome uses GTK
[04:38] <redguy> s/radey/ready/
[04:39] <NeoFax> I am using fluxbox, but KDE and GNOME error out on can't connect to display""
[04:39] <moomooboy> *blink blink* - opens google.com what is QT toolkit GTK ...
[04:39] <moomooboy> i feel so noob i think ill go read up now ^^..
[04:40] <pfp> http://bulbasaur.ton.tut.fi/echramath/misc/desktop_enviroments/  the difference between gnome & kde...
[04:40] <cafuego> moomooboy: they're widget libraries. Ways of drawing/creating windowss checkboxes, text fields etc..
[04:40] <moomooboy> LOL @ Website
[04:41] <moomooboy> so gnome is stock.. and kde is modified
[04:41] <moomooboy> lol
[04:41] <pax_> no, Gnome is fat and KDE is obese.
[04:42] <moomooboy> but that pic...
[04:42] <cafuego> You're implying they're both american?
[04:42] <pax_> hehe you're bad
[04:42] <NeoFax> It seems KDM is not working.  Anyone know how to do dpkg-reconfigure gdm?
[04:43] <cafuego> moomooboy: I find it easiest to think of them as Gnome emulating MacOS (a bit) and KDE emulating Windows (a bit more)
[04:43] <cafuego> Although soon we have to think of windows emulating fvwm2 (a lot)
[04:43] <pax_> NeoFax: that command is only chose between kdm and gdm
[04:43] <levander`> anybody is using enlightenment 17 yet?
[04:44] <redguy> levander`: is it worth it yet?
[04:44] <pax_> yet?
[04:44] <moomooboy> argghh... easy website easy websites plss.. i need to study the linux slang from you guys...
[04:44] <levander`> redguy: dunno, that's why I'm asking.
[04:44] <moomooboy> i dont know what a fvwm2 is :(
[04:44] <levander`> enlightenment dr16 rocked, at least until it seemed to have gotten dated.
[04:45] <nalioth> moomooboy: yes, cafuego is correct, the gnome folks use the same human-interface-guidelines as apple does, and kde chose to emulate microsofts choice
[04:45] <pax_> ouch, that's harsh!
[04:45] <Ignignoktt> yes i have a problem with installing amule, can anyone help me?
[04:45] <moomooboy> nalioth you make it sounds so easy :).. like i understand what you say ^^..
[04:45] <redguy> Ignignoktt: if you tell us what the problem is we might try to help
[04:46] <moomooboy> nalioth: are you like a teacher by anychance ? :P?
[04:46] <Ignignoktt> redguy: excellent suggestion, but you see this is like my first day, so i just have a bunch of files waiting in a folder to be installed
[04:46] <cafuego> ubotus DB is termporarily going offline
[04:46] <nima> ok i fixed my mp3 but my computer sound doesnt work, i have it through coaxial, it worked with xp!.. do i need to install drivers or something??
[04:47] <moomooboy> what would you guy/girls recommend to use?.. ubuntu or kubuntu?
[04:47] <_adam> Is there a faster way to enable all repositories besides adding them one by one through synaptic
[04:47] <NeoFax> pax_: That is what I wanted.  KDM seems to be broken atm in breezy
[04:47] <cafuego> moomooboy: It doesn't matter. Pick oje. You can always install gnome on Kubuntu is you ant and vice versa.
[04:47] <nalioth> moomooboy: the big OS companies commissioned a study to see how we primates would interact with our technology
[04:47] <redguy> Ignignoktt: It seems that you downloaded amule source. Why dont you install it through synaptic?
[04:48] <Ignignoktt> redguy: excellent suggestion, got a link to a howto for me :D
[04:48] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Hello.
[04:48] <Madpilot> cafuego: cold in Oz meaning below 15C? ;)
[04:48] <_adam> How can I enable all repositories easier?
[04:48] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> That's a nice room you put the spambots in. Thanks for that.
[04:48] <redguy> Ignignoktt: since cafeugo brought ubotu down...
[04:48] <_adam> I have the 969 file, as well as synaptic
[04:48] <nalioth> Ignignoktt: synaptic is really simple. system > admin > synaptic
[04:48] <cafuego> Madpilot: It was 2C this morning
[04:48] <cafuego> !test
[04:48] <ubotu> Passed.
[04:49] <cafuego> redguy: you dreamin'
[04:49] <drewfus> im trying to install wine but it says broken packages, any clues?
[04:49] <Ignignoktt> i have figured out much of synaptic allready, i just had no idea you could install it via that
[04:49] <Ignignoktt> ty then
[04:49] <Madpilot> cafuego: OK, 2C is cold even by a Canadian's standards...
[04:49] <redguy> yet another time ubotu makes me look like a fool :/
[04:49] <Ignignoktt> ok i get an error when i try to do it though synaptic
[04:49] <Ignignoktt> amule:
[04:49] <Ignignoktt>   Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[04:49] <Ignignoktt>   Depends: libgcc1 (>=1:4.0.0-9) but 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 is to be installed
[04:49] <Ignignoktt>  Depends: libstdc++6 but it is not going to be installed
[04:49] <Ignignoktt>  Depends: libwxgtk2.6-0 but it is not going to be installed
[04:49] <z3r0_d> nalioth: once the hsync and vsync ranges were properly configured the 3dfx driver works properly... well if I ignore a lot of stuff in the xorg.0.log
[04:50] <Ignignoktt> its the same error i get while trying to install amule via root terminal to
[04:50] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> So, I know I've been asking too many questions, But here's another one. Anybody know of a way to set up an Ubuntu system on a disk through a live system and a network connection rather than the install disc?
[04:50] <z3r0_d> [I get the mode I desired] 
[04:50] <redguy> Ignignoktt: pate to #flood ot ubuntu.pastebin.com net time please
[04:50] <disasm> heya all, I'm trying breezy out and getting connection to ":0.0" refused by server when i run startx. X starts with the black and white background and cursor, but aside from that, it does nothing, after a while it gives up with xinit: Unable to connect to X Server
[04:50] <nalioth> z3r0_d: ok
[04:50] <drewfus> im trying to install wine but it says broken packages, any clues?
[04:50] <nima> How can i install my Sound / usb2 drivers my cd is for windows ( motherboard cd )
[04:50] <disasm> nima: what chipset?
[04:51] <Ignignoktt> redguy: pasted
[04:51] <zeus1_> umm
[04:51] <disasm> nima: most chipsets just work with linux
[04:51] <nima> Umm its ... K8NS Ultra pro 989 or something
[04:51] <z3r0_d> bye
[04:51] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Again, in good english: My Install discs are broke, can I download files using a live system and place them on the drive?
[04:51] <nima> K8NS Ultra-939
[04:51] <zeus1_> I burned the ubuntu live cd iso and tried to boot from cd and it gave me an error....anyone kno what i did wrong
[04:51] <redguy> Ignignoktt: it seems that you have non ubuntu repositories in your sources.list file. can you paste it as well?
[04:52] <Ignignoktt> redguy, wil get right on it
[04:52] <nima> and yea it works but my coaxial Cable doesnt work ( for audio ) it worked in windows ! .. ?
[04:52] <benplaut> anyone here know how to set up ubuntu on a Windows domain so it can login and access the roaming profile?
[04:52] <Madpilot> zeus1_: did you md5sum check the ISO before you burned it?
[04:52] <nalioth> zeus1_: check the md5 sums on the iso image and the cdr
[04:52] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus any number of things, first though, I'd like to ask if you md5sum'ed the iso, and did you burn at the correct speed?
[04:52] <Ignignoktt> redguy: posted
[04:53] <zeus1_> I burned at 8x....but i did not md5
[04:53] <zeus1_> and i verifyed files in nero
[04:53] <_adam> in synaptic, does it sometimes take a long time to "prepare packages" when installing 5 or so of them?
[04:53] <redguy> Ignignoktt: Is that all??
[04:53] <drewfus> can someone help me install wine?
[04:53] <redguy> !info amule
[04:53] <Ignignoktt> yess it is
[04:53] <nalioth> zeus1_: burn slower, check iso md5 b4 burning
[04:53] <dabar> I have x11forwarding yes set in the sshd_config file, but its not possible to connect with ssh -X, nor to -Y, I get an error.  --- /usr/bin/X11/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/dbernar1/.Xauthority ---
[04:53] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.6+rc7-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1992 kB, Installed size: 5888 kB
[04:53] <Ignignoktt> redguy: yes it is
[04:53] <zeus1_> where is the md5 sum
[04:53] <redguy> !tell Ignignoktt about repos
[04:54] <zeus1_> wait i mean
[04:54] <zeus1_> i found it
[04:54] <nima> what is best FTP program for linux as well?
[04:54] <zeus1_> but how do i check
[04:54] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_ it is in the cd right above allt he other folders.
[04:54] <Ignignoktt> redguy: should i remove the repos that i have added
[04:54] <cafuego> !test
[04:54] <ubotu> Failed.
[04:54] <Madpilot> nima: you can do some FTP stuff right from Nautilus (the file manager) or there's gFTP
[04:54] <cafuego> okay, sql update succeeded.
[04:54] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_,  I have no clue.
[04:54] <nalioth> nima: try gftp
[04:54] <zeus1_> everyones telling me to check the md5 sum....but how do i do it
[04:54] <redguy> Ignignoktt: read the link ubotu sent you and make your sources.list like these. amule is in the universe repository
[04:54] <codomaniac> what is libjpeg part of ?
[04:55] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Hey, one more time, does anybody know how to run from a live cd and install a fresh system on one of the mounted drives?
[04:55] <nalioth> zeus1_: where you d/l the iso image from has another link to 'md5sums'
[04:55] <CxfusionX> just a quick question: does the server-expert install include gnome?
[04:55] <nalioth> zeus1_: on your puter you have a program called md5
[04:55] <zeus1_> I kno I see it
[04:55] <zeus1_> I do
[04:55] <nalioth> run md5 on your iso image or mounted cdr and compare to the sums on the d/l site
[04:56] <Ebowles> um...where's my desktop? lol
[04:56] <nima> ok it worked gftp can i put that on my applications list?? how can i ?
[04:56] <redguy> Ignignoktt: if that was your *whole* sources.list file it means that you have disabled all ubuntu repositories. No security updates, no nothing.
[04:56] <Ebowles> I click the "hide all windows and show desktop" button, and it minimized everything, but my desktop is blank
[04:56] <_adam> Can someone Help me really quick?
[04:56] <nalioth> nima: it should be in your menu under "internet"
[04:56] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Ebowles, are you using linux for the first time, and looking for the folder to save things to? or are you blinded by the light?
[04:56] <redguy> Ignignoktt: read the synaptic wiki as well if you haven't read it already
[04:56] <darkheart> _adam I command you to ask.
[04:57] <Ebowles> CrysCrysCrysCrys - no, just never encoutered this issue before
[04:57] <zeus1_> i dont see a prog called "md5"
[04:57] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> ebowles, can you see the background?
[04:57] <drewfus> can anyone help me with wine
[04:57] <Ebowles> Yes
[04:57] <Ebowles> I can't right click and make folders or anything though
[04:57] <_adam> you know that 969 file?
[04:57] <x_or> How can you debug something running as a cron job.  It appears these things are not running properly.
[04:57] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Ebowles, did you have icons on you desktop before?
[04:57] <redguy> drewfus: if it's a good wine, sure
[04:57] <CxfusionX> err does the server-expert install of ubuntu include gnome?
[04:57] <Ebowles> Yes
[04:58] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Wow. that sucks.
[04:58] <drewfus> :-) installing the ap
[04:58] <nalioth> zeus1_: it's a terminal program
[04:58] <_adam> Can someone message me
[04:58] <redguy> CxfusionX: most likely not.
[04:58] <nima> nope it didnt go there nalioth but if i go run application and write gftp it comes ( progam comes )
[04:58] <drewfus> redguy: im new to linux so youd know better than me if its a good wine
[04:58] <pfp> Ebowles: maybe nautilus has died (if you're using gnome), try opening Places -> home folder
[04:58] <nalioth> _adam: yes we know the 969 file. whats up?
[04:58] <CxfusionX> oh ok thats allright then, thanks
[04:58] <_adam> Do I have to add them all one by one
[04:58] <zeus1_> What.....I did a search and I dont see md5 program
[04:58] <nalioth> nima: that is unusual, for it now to show up in the menu
[04:59] <Ebowles> pfp, I just drew that conclusion, how do I restart nautilus?
[04:59] <Ignignoktt> redguy: ty man, succesful installation, your like a noobs god
[04:59] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Ebowles, no clue. I'd assume it's freezing, but I have no clue.
[04:59] <nima> maybe i have to restart nalioth?
[04:59] <Madpilot> nima: Applications menu - Internet - gFTP
[04:59] <nalioth> _adam: you can copy and paste it all at once, if you desire
[04:59] <nima> yea it didtn come up ! ...
[04:59] <_adam> Where
[04:59] <nalioth> nima: shouldn't have to restart for anything less than a kernel upgrade
[04:59] <nima> its not there but if i go runa pplication and type gftp it works
[04:59] <redguy> Ignignoktt: hah, I didn't write those wikis you know :-)
[04:59] <Ignignoktt> all i need now is an amuel server to join
[04:59] <zeus1_> Where is the md5 prog
[04:59] <zeus1_> on windows
[04:59] <darkheart> _adam /etc/apt/sources.list, and next time just ask your question =)
[04:59] <pfp> Ebowles: it should start when you open something from the Places menu, if not, applications - run -> type "nautilus"
[04:59] <Ebowles> ah, I had to force quit nautilus
[05:00] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> it works now?
[05:00] <Ebowles> yea
[05:00] <Ebowles> thanks for your help!
[05:00] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> awesome for you dude.
[05:00] <redguy> drewfus: i might try to help you, though i hadn't much lick with wine. What dou you want to run?
[05:00] <drewfus> an ftp program
[05:00] <nalioth> zeus1_: you'll have to search one out. try www.freewarehome.com
[05:00] <drewfus> i cant find a linux ftp that will work for what i need it
[05:00] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Last time now, then I'm assuming there is no solution.
[05:01] <drewfus> but i know a windows ftp that will work
[05:01] <_adam> Where can I input them all
[05:01] <Madpilot> drewfus: gFTP isn't great, but it should work - what do you want to do?
[05:01] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_, did you say you need an ftp program for windows?
[05:01] <drewfus> connect to my xbox
[05:01] <rimu> no, he needs an md5 checking app
[05:01] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> cuz I think ie does that.
[05:01] <redguy> drewfus: hrm... don't know anything about networking in wine..
[05:01] <nalioth> _adam: you back up your existing sources.list and copy the one you see at 969 in its place
[05:01] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> did you check freenode?
[05:01] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I meant sourceforge
[05:01] <_adam> How do I do that
[05:02] <drewfus> well what other ftp clients are good
[05:02] <zeus1_> no i didnt crycryscryscryscryscryscrys
[05:02] <nima> Why the hell doesnt my sound work :(
[05:02] <cafuego> nalioth: I've upped mysql to 4.1 and set the max connections to 512. If it still breaks, I swear, it's the bot, not mysql.
[05:02] <rimu> welcome to the jungle, nima....
[05:02] <pfp> drewfus: ncftp is nice, if youre comfortable w/ cmd line apps
[05:02] <nalioth> cafuego: time for a new bot?
[05:02] <cafuego> nalioth: such as?
[05:02] <cafuego> nalioth: I'm not running an eggdrop.
[05:02] <drewfus> oh thats why i couldnt get it to work
[05:03] <nalioth> nima: wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:03] <cafuego> drewfus: lftp works fine.
[05:03] <drewfus> il ltry that
[05:03] <nalioth> cafuego: i have no idea on bots (i personally dislike them)
[05:03] <drewfus> also samba wont install correctly
[05:03] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_,  sourceforge.net I check there first for programs, especially simple ones like md5
[05:03] <redguy> drewfus: gftp didn't work for you? try nautilus perhaps?
[05:03] <vladuz976> ubuntu hoary has gcc 3.4?
[05:04] <redguy> drewfus: propably because you have backports enabled in sources.list
[05:04] <drewfus> nautilus?
[05:04] <cafuego> !info gcc hoary
[05:04] <drewfus> what?
[05:04] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[05:04] <zeus1_> got one
[05:04] <cafuego> !info gcc-3.4 hoary
[05:04] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-9ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 465 kB, Installed size: 4404 kB
[05:04] <nalioth> CrysCrysCrysCrys: he needs a windows md5 proggy
[05:04] <cafuego> vladuz976: Yes, but it's not the default.
[05:04] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Yeah. I'm mostly a windows user.
[05:04] <_adam> How can I gain access to my sources.list file, it says only owner can access it.
[05:04] <drewfus> redguy: backports?
[05:04] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> nalioth, They have windows programs, and some windows ports of linux programs.
[05:04] <skora> sudo ^
[05:04] <nalioth> _adam: use sudo
[05:05] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I think.
[05:05] <rimu> _adam
[05:05] <_adam> What is the command?
[05:05] <rimu> use the umm
[05:05] <nalioth> _adam: check your priv msgs
[05:05] <cafuego> _adam: sudo <whatever you were doing before>
[05:05] <rimu> applications->system tools->root terminal
[05:05] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Okay, here goes. I need to download the installation for my computer and configure it using my live cd, cuz I've exhausted my other options. Can I?
[05:05] <NeoFax> How easy is it to change grub and splash_console to 1024x768?
[05:05] <nalioth> rimu: no. root terminal is a vestigial carryover from debian
[05:06] <rimu> oh right
[05:06] <redguy> drewfus: nautilus is the file manager in gnome, you can connect to ftp hosts with ftp://hostname/path
[05:06] <rimu> i've found it works?
[05:06] <zeus1_> OK so....I did the checksum
[05:06] <rimu> meh
[05:06] <zeus1_> and the checksum for the original is 77a1a8be45e0cc93a14c9b9bf00f6648
[05:06] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_, where did you find the md5?
[05:06] <nalioth> zeus1_: do they match whats on the website (where you got the iso?)
[05:06] <rimu> zeus: now compare the resulting number that the program told you, with what the web site says it should be
[05:06] <zeus1_> and mine is 77A1A8BE45E0CC93A14C9B9BF00F6648
[05:06] <vladuz976> cafuego, for some reason aptitude finds both
[05:06] <drewfus> im trying to ftp a local connection
[05:06] <redguy> drewfus: can you paste your sources.list file and the output of sudo apt-get install samba to ubuntu.pastebin.com?
[05:06] <zeus1_> so they are the same
[05:06] <zeus1_> same number
[05:06] <nalioth> zeus1_: burn it slower
[05:06] <zeus1_> k
[05:06] <vladuz976> cafuego, so if i have both installed what happens
[05:07] <zeus1_> 4x?
[05:07] <zeus1_> or 8x
[05:07] <redguy> drewfus: so your hostname is propably an IP address
[05:07] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_, where did you find the proggy?
[05:07] <nalioth> zeus1_: as slow as you can handle
[05:07] <nalioth> zeus1_: quality over speed
[05:07] <zeus1_> uhh
[05:07] <rimu> go 4
[05:08] <rimu> it'll only take 15 minutes...
[05:08] <zeus1_> http://www.fastsum.com/
[05:08] <zeus1_> i got that 1
[05:08] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> darn.
[05:08] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Actually, thanks.
[05:08] <drewfus> i know the local ip because its on my network but i dont know my routers ip
[05:08] <flodine> anyone running fvwm here?
[05:09] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Okay, I'm gonna have to get creative, then.
[05:09] <redguy> drewfus: what do you need the router ip for?
[05:09] <shefa> ok, I'm back again
[05:09] <zeus1_> and
[05:09] <zeus1_> verify data after burning?
[05:09] <rimu> yeah, why not
[05:09] <zeus1_> ight
[05:09] <drewfus> the host
[05:09] <zeus1_> I did last time...didnt help obviously
[05:09] <rimu> heh
[05:10] <rimu> yeah chances are it's not a burning problem.... but it's worth a shot anyway
[05:10] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> so, If I want to load a swap partition for use under the system I'm currently running...how?
[05:10] <rimu> by the way.... do you remember what the error message you got was??
[05:10] <drewfus> my samba install is on pastebin
[05:10] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> Like this? mount /dev/sda3 swap?
[05:10] <drewfus> where is the sources.list
[05:10] <redguy> drewfus: you need the router ip for the host? sorry I don't follow
[05:11] <vladuz976> anybody know what "v" means in aptitude
[05:11] <redguy> vladuz976: a virtual package
[05:11] <vladuz976> redguy, what does that mean?
[05:11] <shefa> Seveas: Ok, this is what i did->removed xserver-xorg, x-window-system-core and gdm. After reinstalling ->same problem. Unistalled everything->installed first xserv->bott up OK, installed x-window->boot up OK, installed gdm->boot up FAIL
[05:11] <drewfus> ftp://hostname/path the path is the devices location on the network right
[05:12] <drewfus> whats the hostname
[05:12] <ryguy1233> does anyone know about removing the GRUB loader using a win98 bootdisk?
[05:12] <shefa> Any idea why is that
[05:12] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> ryguy why would you?
[05:12] <redguy> vladuz976: that is a package which doesn't install anything by itself, but has dependencies which install other packages
[05:12] <nalioth> shefa: Seveas has gone somewhere, and i'm frankly out of ideas
[05:12] <drewfus> redguy, where is sources.list
[05:12] <ryguy1233> because i took off ubuntu (dual boot) the other day at my brothers request
[05:13] <ryguy1233> and now i get error 22 from GRUB
[05:13] <drewfus> redguy, what would my host name be
[05:13] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> redguy, so then it would be a package that just installs a group of packages?
[05:13] <redguy> drewfus: no, hostname is the ip of the ftp server (the xbox i presume) and the path is the path on the ftp server
[05:13] <redguy> CrysCrysCrysCrys: yup
[05:13] <zeus1_> ok im burning
[05:13] <shefa> nalioth, Ir is really wierd. It doesn't make any sence to me at all
[05:13] <zeus1_> 4x .... verify after install
[05:13] <nalioth> shefa: nor to me
[05:13] <zeus1_> md5 was checked to be a-ok
[05:14] <drewfus> redguy, what path, like the drive?
[05:14] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> zeus1_,  yay for zeus.
[05:14] <nalioth> shefa: do you have multiple cd burners?
[05:14] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> anybody know how to mount drives?
[05:14] <vladuz976> hi, i've got automake 1.7 at the time, i wonder why apt or aptitude doesn't update it automatically
[05:14] <shefa> nalioth, Now the log in screen is KUBUNTU. I'm pretty sure that if i install gdm, it will stall again. For now, my system is running even faster than before
[05:14] <redguy> drewfus: try ftp://1.2.3.4/   where  1.2.3.4 is the ip of your xbox
[05:15] <drewfus> redguy,  in the file browser?
[05:15] <nalioth> shefa: so you're running kdm and kubuntu?
[05:15] <shefa> nalioth, nop, I have burner as primer, and a DVD reader as secondary
[05:15] <redguy> drewfus: and sources.list is in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <redguy> drewfus: yup
[05:15] <ryguy1233> is seveas in here?
[05:15] <nalioth> shefa: great! boot the livecd in the dvd drive and burn off your $HOMEDIR onto the cd-burner
[05:15] <nalioth> ryguy1233: seveas is not here
[05:15] <nalioth> shefa: then reinstall
[05:16] <ryguy1233> :-/ he was my helper yesterday
[05:16] <drewfus> Nautilus cannot display
[05:16] <shefa> nalioth, nope, I'm running(from what i see) log in screen kubuntu(kde desktop) but it logs in Gnome and it runs just fine, even faster
[05:16] <nalioth> shefa: well great!
[05:16] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> okay, does anyone know how to create a custom livecd?
[05:16] <redguy> drewfus: waht was that program you wanted to run in wine?
[05:16] <drewfus> FlashFXP
[05:17] <shefa> nalioth, Thanks a million man. You were a great help. I appreciate it a lot
[05:17] <ryguy1233> grub loader anyone?
[05:17] <zeus1_> what
[05:17] <drewfus> redguy, now both my sources and the samba install are on pastebin
[05:17] <nalioth> ryguy1233: ask your question
[05:17] <nalioth> ryguy1233: someone may know something
[05:18] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> ryguy1233, you still trying to delete your grub?
[05:18] <ryguy1233> seveas told me to use a win98 bootdisk to remove the grub loader (using fdisk/mbr) and when i tried it today i got the error invalid system disk
[05:18] <zeus1_> Im at thrizzle thirzzle percizzle
[05:18] <rimu> crys: mount drives using the mount command
[05:18] <zeus1_> (33%)
[05:18] <rimu> look it up in man
[05:18] <nalioth> ryguy1233: then you need to make another floppy
[05:18] <ryguy1233> i got it from bootdisk.com
[05:18] <rsgill> i need help!!
[05:18] <redguy> drewfus: ok, let's try with that one :-)
[05:19] <rimu> ie 'man mount'
[05:19] <ryguy1233> and i did windows 98 and win98 SE
[05:19] <ryguy1233> so its the floppy thats busted?
[05:19] <nalioth> ryguy1233: or you could try "the ultimate boot disk"
[05:19] <rsgill> upgraded to breezy amd64 and now when i login i get a .dmrc error
[05:19] <drewfus> redguy, with FlashFXP?
[05:19] <nalioth> ryguy1233: that msg indicated the floppy wasn't right
[05:19] <ryguy1233> how? and that will have the same effect?
[05:19] <rsgill> no answer to this request on the mailng lists
[05:19] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> I think you can do it from the 98 repair disc, if that's what you mean, but I'd suggest that in the mean time, I'd reinstall grub again.
[05:20] <CrysCrysCrysCrys> never mind.
[05:20] <nalioth> ryguy1233: the ubd is a cdrom image chock loaded with all kinds of nice things
[05:20] <cafuego> rsgill: breezy amd64 is broken
[05:20] <atomic_UE> Is there a boot.iso or other minimal iso that I can use to install Ubuntu from the hdd instead of burning the install iso to CD?
[05:20] <ryguy1233> ok, and will i still find the fdisk/mbr on that? and to find it i should just google it?
[05:21] <Ignignoktt> this is a total n00b question, but i cant seem to find where amule saved my files, can anyone help?
[05:21] <nalioth> ryguy1233: try this http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[05:21] <nima> if i cant fix my sound i'm soo going to install windows again! .. computer with no sound ! .. mehh
[05:21] <redguy> drewfus: no, I meant samba. Your last two lines in /etc/sources.list are the backport repositories. In order to install samba you might want to put a # before them
[05:21] <cafuego> nima: are you threatening your computer?
[05:22] <drewfus> redguy, ok ill do that
[05:22] <nima> LoLLLLLLLl
[05:22] <pfp> heh
[05:22] <nalioth> ryguy1233: yes, it will take care of your mbr, i believe
[05:22] <redguy> drewfus: after that do sudo apt-get update
[05:22] <nalioth> cafuego: and a VILE threat, too
[05:22] <vader1102> cafuego; I had to install win server 2003 on my desktop pc for my studies.......yuk
[05:22] <nima> is there umm .. look i think it might be because i need to install my motherboard drivers and stuff but linux dont read the cd coz there for windows ! ..
[05:22] <nima> wat can i do ! .. ?
[05:23] <BodaicousB> can anyone tell me how to make cedega stop giving me LANG=en_US errors?
[05:23] <drewfus> redguy, whats the terminal command to open sources up to edit
[05:24] <cafuego> nima: 1) Make sure your hardware is supported by the kernel.
[05:24] <ryguy1233> msg/ nalioth im using linspire livecd, will i be able to burn the ubd with that in
[05:24] <drewfus> redguy, nevermind
[05:24] <ryguy1233> well nevermind, i have two cd drives
[05:24] <nima> how do i do that cafuego?
[05:24] <nalioth> ryguy1233: do you have 2 burning drives?
[05:25] <zeus1_> gahhh....4x speed is so SLOOOW
[05:25] <ryguy1233> i could run linspire from the dvd-rom and burn the ubd in the burner, correct?
[05:25] <Ignignoktt> i have 2 questions, first off i cannot find the directory in which my amule songs are being downloaded, and i cannot find the directory where zsnes was installed, any help?
[05:25] <cafuego> nima: google would be a good start
[05:25] <nalioth> zeus1_: quality over convenience
[05:25] <Ignignoktt> nm, forget the zsnes problem
[05:26] <zeus1_> ya i guess ur right
[05:26] <zeus1_> hopefully this will work
[05:26] <drewfus> redguy, ok im updated
[05:27] <ryguy1233> i was looking at the contents of the cd.. looks like there are three types of fdisk (XFDISK and SPFDISK and free FDISK) does it matter which one?
[05:28] <redguy> drewfus: try sudo apt-get install samba now
[05:28] <nalioth> ryguy1233: i only have experience with free fdisk
[05:28] <nalioth> ryguy1233: read the info on each one. they all should do the thing you desire
[05:29] <ryguy1233> k... one more question... i clicked on the link to the site and it said it supports 128BG harddrives... i blieve mine is about 130GB will that matter?
[05:29] <redguy> drewfus: is it working now?
[05:29] <drewfus> ok i got samba and smbfs
[05:30] <drewfus> now where is samba
[05:30] <nalioth> ryguy1233: should'nt matter at all
[05:30] <nalioth> ryguy1233: you're only cleaning the /mbr
[05:30] <ryguy1233> k, oh my gosh, wish me luck
[05:30] <ryguy1233> thank you for all of your help
[05:31] <zeus1_> woot done writing....time to verify
[05:31] <nalioth> ryguy1233: np, just come back in here and help someone else
[05:31] <ryguy1233> absolutly
[05:31] <redguy> drewfus: cool, back to the ftp problem then. you might want to try ftp://username:password@1.2.3.4 in nautilus
[05:32] <kumakun> Yikes. What a pain getting in here tonight.
[05:32] <vader1102> lol
[05:32] <redguy> drewfus: where is samba?
[05:33] <drewfus> redguy,  yeah i dont see it anywehre, how do i use it
[05:33] <drewfus> redguy, still cannot display
[05:34] <nima> wats winrar program for linux called
[05:34] <zeus1_> im so close to linux i can almost taste it
[05:35] <redguy> drewfus: depends on what you want to do with it: if you want to browse windows shares only you didn't need samba in the first place. if you want to share folders it's another thing
[05:35] <nalioth> nima: unrar-nonfree
[05:35] <drewfus> redguy, no i need other computers to be able to browse my extra hard drive
[05:36] <remyforbes777>   hello
[05:36] <zeus1_> ok its done burning
[05:36] <zeus1_> wish me luck u guys
[05:36] <svu__> any chance to get libsvg-cairo in ubuntu?
[05:37] <nima> also that ftp program didnt work for my xbox needs ne other ones
[05:37] <drewfus> nima, i think we are having the same problem
[05:37] <nima> and.. is that unrar-nonfree meant to come up in my applications ?
[05:37] <klepas> anyone know when breezy is scheduled to come out?
[05:37] <klepas> :-)
[05:38] <nima> drewfus u tryin to connect to ur xbox? i used to do it all the time in windows / i modded xbox ext.. now im startin out in linux ! ..
[05:38] <apswartz> Isn't Breezy scheduled for october
[05:38] <drewfus> nima, yeah its horrible i cant watch movies on xbmc
[05:38] <nalioth> nima: no, it is a console app, but it will be used by ark or file-roller (these are gui programs)
[05:38] <nalioth> klepas: in october
[05:38] <redguy> drewfus: pff, you could install swat and enter localhost:901 in your web browser to set up samba
[05:38] <klepas> w00t
[05:38] <klepas> thanks
[05:39] <drewfus> redguy, ill try that, is swat in synaptic
[05:39] <redguy> drewfus: yup
[05:39] <redguy> drewfus: it'a a part of the samba-suite, so it might be already installed
[05:39] <drewfus> nima, so let me know if you figure something out
[05:40] <nima> ok u let me know 2 ;)
[05:40] <nima> also nalioth i still cnat open my rar files ! ..
[05:40] <nima> even after installing it  !..
[05:40] <dabar> -!
[05:40] <redguy> drewfus: as for your ftp problem I would advise you to try with gftp and/or looking on google, since I can't think of anything that might be wrong
[05:41] <nima> brb
[05:41] <drewfus> redguy, it refused my localhost
[05:41] <zeus1_> it didnt work
[05:41] <zeus1_> I burned at slowest speed possible
[05:41] <zeus1_> checked the md5 sum and still error
[05:42] <nima> yea same drefus how are u connected to xbox ?
[05:42] <nima> cable from pc 2 xbox ?
[05:42] <BodaicousB> can anyone tell me how to make cedega stop giving me "For language 'en' several language ids were found:"
[05:42] <redguy> http://localhost:901/ ,leave the localhost as it is
[05:42] <redguy> drewfus: ^
[05:42] <rimu> bummer
[05:42] <rimu> o well
[05:42] <drewfus> redguy, still not working
[05:43] <rimu> you might like to try another distro
[05:43] <nalioth> zeus1_: what is it (not) doing?
[05:43] <zeus1_> it keeps giving me an error!
[05:43] <rimu> yeah, what's the error message!
[05:43] <zeus1_> I told the bios to boot from cd
[05:43] <zeus1_> it said something like "boot failed insert system disk"
[05:43] <rimu> hahaha
[05:43] <dabar> -!
[05:43] <rimu> i tihnk i know what it is.....
[05:43] <zeus1_> ya
[05:43] <zeus1_> what
[05:43] <rimu> you can't just burn the file you downloaded onto the CD....
[05:43] <nima> Hey Drewfus how u connected to xbox?
[05:44] <zeus1_> u cant?
[05:44] <zeus1_> i burned the iso
[05:44] <rimu> do you know what a cd image is?
[05:44] <dabar> how? as an .iso file on the CD, or several directories?
[05:44] <dabar> whats on the CD?
[05:44] <zeus1_> just the iso
[05:44] <Ignignoktt> hello, i hate to bother you wondefull people again, but i cant find the folder where amule saves my mp3's? can anyone help
[05:44] <rimu> well there you go....
[05:44] <redguy> drewfus: you sure you have swat installed?
[05:44] <drewfus> nima, im not
[05:44] <rimu> you have just put the file on the CD... that's now what an ISO is intended for
[05:44] <dabar> ok, well, that is a CD image, rimu, tell zeus1 about cdImage;)
[05:45] <dabar> like you were a bot, get it?
[05:45] <drewfus> redguy, yes its green on synaptic
[05:45] <durt> !amule
[05:45] <ubotu> durt: No idea
[05:45] <BodaicousB> Ignignoktt, /home/*yourusername*/.amule
[05:45] <rimu> do you know what a zip file is?
[05:45] <zeus1_> yes...
[05:45] <nima> What u mean ur not?? I mean like Cable from pc --> xbox ?
[05:45] <rimu> right. an iso is kiiiinda like a zip file
[05:45] <rimu> only with no compression
[05:45] <Ignignoktt> i dont have that folder bodaciosb
[05:45] <BodaicousB> Ignignoktt, go to that directry and "ls"
[05:45] <Madpilot> Ignignoktt: you could file search for "*.mp3" - under Places menu - Find File
[05:45] <zeus1_> so how fix
[05:45] <BodaicousB> Ignignoktt, its a hidden folder
[05:45] <Ignignoktt> k
[05:45] <Xorlev> ls -a shows hidden folders.
[05:45] <rimu> you need to use the ISO to recreate a CD
[05:45] <nalioth> durt: you want to say "!info amule"
[05:45] <drewfus> nima, oh, xbox to router to pc through ethernet cable
[05:45] <rimu> umm.
[05:45] <rimu> i think
[05:46] <dabar> zeus1_: if its a cdr, no how. if it is a cdrw, reburn, are you ins windows?
[05:46] <Madpilot> Ctrl+H to show hidden files in Nautilus
[05:46] <nalioth> zeus1_: what program are you using to burn the cd?
[05:46] <zeus1_> Nero
[05:46] <rimu> in nero you have to somehow open up the iso and use that as the source
[05:46] <BodaicousB> Ignignoktt, if you using ubuntu, and not Kubuntu, hit view, and show hidden files
[05:46] <rimu> look it up in nero's help area
[05:46] <rimu> look for 'cd image' or 'burn from image' or 'burn from iso'
[05:46] <remyforbes777> you can double click on the iso imag
[05:46] <nalioth> zeus1_: you can select "burn image" or something and select your .iso
[05:46] <zeus1_> damn it...wasted 3 cd's then...
[05:46] <rimu> that sorta t hing
[05:46] <durt> !iso
[05:46] <ubotu> No idea, durt
[05:46] <dabar> zeus1_: that is simple, also, tehre is online docs, ya, burn from image, or so.
[05:46] <rimu> yeah, you did :)
[05:46] <nalioth> durt: like this
[05:46] <redguy> drewfus: wait a sec, gonna see on my box
[05:46] <dabar> !tell durt about msg the bot.
[05:46] <nalioth> !info amule
[05:46] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.6+rc7-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1992 kB, Installed size: 5888 kB
[05:46] <remyforbes777> what sre you using zeus
[05:47] <zeus1_> Nero
[05:47] <Xorlev> rimu: In Konqueror, you can also put a trailing slash and a period to show the hidden files in the dropdown.
[05:47] <klepas> just out of interest - is anyone here from the ubuntu-art or ubuntu-doc team? :-)
[05:47] <remyforbes777> if you are using roxio you can double click on the iso image
[05:47] <nalioth> klepas: what do you need?
[05:47] <Ignignoktt> thank you all
[05:47] <klepas> hold on
[05:47] <Ignignoktt> thank u all
[05:47] <durt> oh... sorry then
[05:47] <remyforbes777> i dont know if nero does that also
[05:47] <remyforbes777> but it probably does
[05:47] <dabar> klepas, the op there works on the documentation.
[05:47] <Discipulus> heh
[05:47] <Discipulus> what happened to #ubuntu?
[05:47] <remyforbes777> but in nero you have the option to burn an image
[05:48] <rimu> some sorta spamming bot
[05:48] <rob^> klepas, yes
[05:48] <dabar> durt, thats ok, you did not know
[05:48] <klepas> I'm interested in helping out in those respects
[05:48] <Discipulus> well, #ubuntu-unregged
[05:48] <nalioth> Discipulus: what happened when?
[05:48] <zeus1_> oh
[05:48] <zeus1_> oh
[05:48] <zeus1_> I see
[05:48] <remyforbes777> inside that iso image are more files
[05:48] <Discipulus> who's spamming us?
[05:48] <dabar> which is better than were you blind. which is also ok.
[05:48] <Discipulus> anyone know?
[05:48] <klepas> I've added myself to the mailing lists
[05:48] <remyforbes777> those are the files that your computer is looking for to boot from
[05:48] <dabar> Discipulus: noone is spamming us right now, except maybe you:)
[05:49] <rob^> Discipulus, set +E on yourself
[05:49] <cyphase> does anyone have any tips for using a webcam in ubuntu?
[05:49] <cyphase> it's an Intel Pro Shar WebCam in my case
[05:49] <fabsoft> xawtv
[05:49] <dabar> cyphase: the wiki has some, I think.
[05:50] <cyphase> k, thanx
[05:50] <fabsoft> u need also kernel driver works
[05:50] <Discipulus> rob^, I have
[05:50] <Discipulus> rob^, what's +C do?
[05:50] <fabsoft> see video4linux or v4l
[05:50] <rob^> Discipulus, dunno, but +E will stop unregistered nicks from pming you
[05:51] <dabar> ah, so someone is pming. I guess I have that by default on, so I never noticed...
[05:51] <durt> yes! i have disable the touchpad tapping - that was the most annoying thing ever
[05:51] <dabar> for me too.
[05:51] <Madpilot> klepas: there are always people keeping an eye on #ubuntu-doc, so you can join that channel and just ask questions there
[05:51] <jsubl2> on xchat i clicked IRC menu at the top and unchecked auto accept direct chat
[05:52] <klepas> Madpilot: cheers, already there :-)
[05:52] <drewfus> crap i tried using wine to install something but it wouldnt work
[05:52] <drewfus> what good is wine if you cant install something
[05:54] <flodine> anyone got the command to install fvwm
[05:54] <senile_implant> drewfus, wine is beta software
[05:54] <dabar> drewfus: if you are trying to get help, that is not a good way. Best way is to try fixing sdomething yourself, and asking a very simple yes no question. or so...
[05:54] <athlon> how do I see who has logged in to my computer, when and for how long ?
[05:54] <dabar> flodine: install fvwm? do you know how to install anything?
[05:54] <drewfus> i know its beta thats why im not asking for help, just venting
[05:54] <apswartz> athlon: type last
[05:55] <flodine> i just want the terminal command
[05:55] <dabar> exactly.
[05:55] <dabar> oh.
[05:55] <dabar> flodine: sudo aptitude install fvwm
[05:55] <nima> Can someone tell me how to Talk to someone ? Like so it goes red!??
[05:55] <dabar> on IRC nima?
[05:55] <senile_implant> I am trying to add windows to grub. how do I apply the changes after I save my menu.lst file?
[05:56] <drewfus> nima, type their name
[05:56] <nima> yea like wat u did
[05:56] <nima> ohh
[05:56] <durt> nima
[05:56] <nima> hehe ok thanks durt drefus dabar
[05:56] <dabar> senile_implant: update-grub, maybe.
[05:56] <dabar> as root. sudo in ubuntu.
[05:56] <drewfus> nima, it doesnt work if you spell the name wrong though :-)
[05:56] <dabar> welcome, nima:)
[05:56] <zeus1_> Soooo ok
[05:56] <dabar> hehe
[05:56] <zeus1_> I go to nero burning ROM
[05:56] <zeus1_> and load up the iso
[05:56] <dabar> !nicktab
[05:56] <rob^> hey, anyone know a quick way of installing lots of gnome themes at once?
[05:56] <senile_implant> dabar, when I do that, it just saves it as if I didn't make the changes
[05:56] <zeus1_> and select burn compilation right
[05:57] <nima> drewfus i was about to try WINE to install flashfxp
[05:57] <nima> and other xbox needed programs ! ..
[05:57] <drewfus> nima, i couldnt get it to work, you can try though
[05:57] <durt> can smeg or anything edit the places or system menus?
[05:57] <dabar> saves what? rechanges the file?
[05:57] <dabar> durt, try.
[05:57] <nima> ok whered u get wine from?
[05:57] <senile_implant> dabar, yeah it reverts the file on me
[05:57] <drewfus> synaptic
[05:57] <dabar> zeus, use the wizzard.
[05:58] <drewfus> or apt-get
[05:58] <dabar> zeus1_: use the wizzard.
[05:58] <zeus1_> what
[05:58] <dabar> is there a nero wizzard?
[05:58] <athlon> apswartz, thanks
[05:58] <zeus1_> hmm
[05:58] <dabar> taht lets you choose, data CD, audio CD, video CD, burn from image......
[05:58] <zeus1_> h/o
[05:59] <zeus1_> i selected....open files of type .iso
[05:59] <zeus1_> clicked on the ubuntu live cd
[05:59] <zeus1_> and im filling out the options
[05:59] <apswartz> athlon: ur welcome
[06:00] <dabar> zeus1_: go read this page, please: http://www.petri.co.il/how_to_write_iso_files_to_cd.htm .
[06:00] <nima> i couldnt find it on synaptic drewfus
[06:00] <nima> and wats apt-get ???
[06:00] <dabar> nima, what, wine?
[06:01] <dabar> apt-get is command line synaptic, or so.
[06:01] <nima> yea i found wine - documentation .. wtf documentation dabar
[06:01] <drewfus> nima, just click search and type in wine
[06:01] <dabar> nima what did you not find in synaptic?
[06:01] <nima> yea comes up wit wine-doc is dat the one?
[06:01] <dabar> no.
[06:01] <Madpilot> nima: do you have Univeserse repo installed?
[06:01] <drewfus> nima, only wine-doc?
[06:01] <Madpilot> Universe, even...
[06:01] <drewfus> oh yeah
[06:01] <drewfus> so doesnt he need to update apt-get?
[06:01] <Madpilot> !repos
[06:02] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:02] <dabar> ah, really is in universe.
[06:02] <nima> yes only wine-doc what is universal repo ?? drewfus madpilot dabar
[06:02] <nima> oh yea i think i did install that madpilot
[06:02] <Madpilot> nima: see the URL that ubotu just presented, above. it's got the info you need
[06:02] <drewfus> can you just add the repos by updating apt-get or something?
[06:03] <dabar> you could. apt-setup
[06:03] <Madpilot> If you've got Universe & Multiverse enabled, you should see wine and a whole pile of vaguely related stuff when searching for "wine"
[06:03] <drewfus> cause i dont remember adding any repos
[06:03] <zeus1_> its burning
[06:03] <zeus1_> lets hope this works
[06:03] <drewfus> whered redguy go?
[06:03] <redguy> drewfus: ok, you can remove swat since as far as I can see it needs the root password to get anything set up. You might want to read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-19280.html on how to setup the samba server. www.samba.org has some good docs as well
[06:03] <dabar> zeus1_: did you follow that page?
[06:04] <zeus1_> yes...
[06:04] <dabar> good. it helped me the other day, windows is so sux.
[06:04] <drewfus> redguy, why remove?
[06:04] <zeus1_> ya...but its good for gaming
[06:04] <dabar> and being that gaming is bad in itself...
[06:04] <dabar> not trying to debate that, tho.
[06:04] <pfp> you _can_ set a root pw if eg. swat needs one
[06:04] <dabar> you can think what you want.
[06:05] <drewfus> redguy, ill set it up under root but i just want to make sure i have everything i need before i switch over
[06:05] <Lucid[GL] > Ok, so i'm running Samba on an ubuntu box, configured up to snuff, i believe (lots of forum reading).  When I try to connect from my windows box (in the run prompt directly), i get a login/pass prompt, i enter it, click ok, but it just gives me the prompt again.  Thoughts?
[06:05] <drewfus> redguy, and everything ive done is in either root terminal or synaptic under root
[06:05] <drewfus> redguy, so why remove?
[06:06] <redguy> drewfus: you would have to set your root password which is disabled in ubuntu by default
[06:06] <rimu> that sounds like a samba question, rather than an ubuntu one :)
[06:06] <zeus1_> but its fun :(
[06:06] <Lucid[GL] > rimu, yes, i suppose it is...  still open for solutions though :)
[06:06] <zeus1_> i mean...i dont play 2 much games but they are a fun break from constantly programming or photoshopping
[06:06] <nima> Hey guys i already did universal b4 it is Ticked.. Still only one wine! ..
[06:07] <redguy> drewfus: maybe there are some tools to set up samba, I don't know of them
[06:07] <drewfus> redguy, ive already set up root
[06:07] <dabar> ya, I understand your viewpoint, zeus1_, I dont want to debate playing games.
[06:07] <zeus1_> k
[06:07] <redguy> drewfus: you have a root password set up? you sure?
[06:07] <dabar> I prefer other things...like, software development books...or maybe Im just jellaous I have to read that stuff while others play games.
[06:08] <drewfus> redguy, yeah i have it set up so i can log into it too
[06:08] <zeus1_> lol
[06:08] <durt> well i for one prefer porn
[06:08] <zeus1_> dabar u into game programming
[06:08] <zeus1_> direct x
[06:08] <zeus1_> or are u interested in doing that...
[06:09] <nima> drewfus universal is ticked only one WINE, wat did u do to fix urs? u said u did something else
[06:09] <blrich> can someone help? upgraded to breezy, now my xorg crashes on startup complaining of no core keyboard, and no driver 'keyboard' found
[06:09] <blrich> any clues?
[06:10] <blrich> tried kb and kbd, but these didn't work
[06:10] <redguy> drewfus: in that case edit /etc/inetd.conf and remove #off# in the line mentioning swat (somewhere at the bottom of the file), then run /etc/init.d/inetd so your changes will have effect
[06:10] <blrich> kbd b0rked my keyboard, in fact
[06:10] <dabar> blrich: did you try reconfiguring your xserver?
[06:10] <blrich> dabar: uh.... no =P
[06:10] <blrich> dabar: but i mean the same config should work
[06:10] <dabar> I mean.
[06:10] <durt> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:10] <redguy> drewfus: after that enter localhost:901 in your webbrowser and log in as root to swat. you will have nice documentation links there
[06:10] <dabar> not at all, thats even worse, its like, putting effort into making people waste their time, and be blind. I respect the complexness of game programming, like, it is advanced stuff, but...it is the panem et circaencaeas syndrome( i so misspelled that.) cause it gives people something to do while they are being lead to doom, and so on, yadda yadda. zeus1_.
[06:11] <redguy> Lucid[GL] : tried entering guest as the user?
[06:11] <Madpilot> nima: hit the Reload button in Synaptic
[06:11] <glick> howdy
[06:11] <dabar> blrich: make a backup of your config file b4 you reconfigure.
[06:11] <dabar> glick: yo.
[06:11] <rimu> dabar: only if you do it ALL the time
[06:12] <rimu> then it becomes escapism
[06:12] <glick> hey dabar
[06:12] <dabar> rimu, again, I dont wanna discuss this.
[06:12] <rimu> *shrug*
[06:12] <dabar> sorry, just is off topic, and highly personal opinion...
[06:12] <rimu> yeah fair enough.
[06:13] <dabar> whats up glick, what did you do that is cool lately regarding Ubuntu/Linux/whatever.
[06:13] <nima> did that madpilot ! ..
[06:13] <dabar> nima, got wine yet?
[06:13] <glick> dabar, heh nothin too exciting, did some school work on it thas about it
[06:13] <nima> Nope dabar doesnt come up
[06:13] <dabar> glick, I installed linux for a friend from work:)...
[06:14] <dabar> nima, ok, let us put this this way.
[06:14] <moomooboy-brb> can someone tell me what program i can use
[06:14] <moomooboy-brb> to play mp3
[06:14] <glick> nice
[06:14] <dabar> xmms, moomooboy-brb.
[06:14] <Madpilot> !tell moomooboy-brb about mp3
[06:14] <dabar> nima: your synaptic pulls a list of packages from a file, that is located at /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:14] <redguy> drewfus: any luck?
[06:15] <nima> yea!..
[06:15] <glick> kontact kicks ass
[06:15] <drewfus> i dont think so
[06:15] <glick> it totally ownz evolution
[06:15] <dabar> You can check it our some time. nima, also, it is not your file, so you would have to use sudo to edit it.
[06:15] <dabar> nima: also, synaptic has a function to add repositories, so, you could add the repository manually into the file, or you could do it through synaptic.
[06:16] <redguy> drewfus: you got into swat?
[06:16] <drewfus> redguy, no
[06:16] <moomooboy-brb> xmms?
[06:16] <moomooboy-brb> ok ill look for that
[06:16] <nima> dabar what are you trying to tell me to do ? chek the file?
[06:16] <ofer0> im trying to following this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:16] <blrich> dabar: durt that worked thanks =)
[06:16] <drewfus> redguy, refused again
[06:17] <nima> And i followed this link and yea didnt work : --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:17] <ofer0> and it gives me the error ?/dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[06:17] <redguy> drewfus: oops you should run /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[06:17] <redguy> sorry, my bad
[06:17] <dabar> nima, to learn how to do it through synaptic, visit http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto . to add it manually, you would open the file with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, and replace what is in it with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 , then save, close, and then reload your package list.
[06:17] <redguy> drewfus: it should display
[06:17] <nima> i also Ticked All the repositories maybe i'm not mean tto !??
[06:18] <d3mi4n> anyone know why i cannot load GED afte i install GLIB...it says GLIB is not installed?
[06:18] <dabar> nima, I am giving you knowledge, not instructions.
[06:18] <drewfus> redguy, what command do i used to restart?
[06:18] <redguy> drewfus: * Restarting internet superserver...                   [ ok ] 
[06:18] <drewfus> sudo run /etc/init.d/inetd {restart}
[06:18] <dabar> read as many times till you dont get it, cause that explains it above.
[06:18] <nima> yes thanks dabar i will try the manually fing
[06:18] <drewfus> command not found
[06:18] <redguy> drewfus: sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart
[06:19] <drewfus> fail
[06:19] <ofer0> guys any idea? im trying this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and it gives me the error: /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[06:19] <dabar> nima, to reload, you either hit the reload button in synaptic, or you do it in a terminal. in a terminal, you would type in sudo apt-get update, or sudo aptitude update. aptitude is the new preffered debian way.
[06:19] <nima> ok how can i change my Sources.list file as its READ ONLY?
[06:19] <dabar> preferred even.
[06:19] <redguy> drewfus: paste the /etc/inetd.conf file to pastebin
[06:19] <d3mi4n> anyone know why i cannot load GED afte i install GLIB...it says GLIB is not installed?
[06:19] <drewfus> nima, you probable have to be root
[06:19] <dabar> nima, I told you above, read as many times till you dont get it.
[06:19] <dabar> nima, I did not miss one thing.
[06:19] <nima> i have to use sudo
[06:20] <dabar> blrich: UI cant bvelieve that actually worked:P
[06:20] <Madpilot> nima: it should be read only. use "sudo gedit <whatever>" to get it editable - but read the AddingRepos URL, it really does explain all this stuff
[06:20] <CrackersKeenan> question about upgrades:  when breezy comes and I change my sources from hoary to breezy and do the upgrade-dist, will that mean I have to get mp3 codecs all over again?
[06:20] <nima> and may i ask what ROOT is ? i have to be root i don understand what that means
[06:20] <drewfus> its up
[06:20] <dabar> root is the superuser, the admin of your system.
[06:20] <redguy> nima: root is the user who can do anything on your system
[06:20] <nima> yea i am the root of my computer
[06:20] <CrackersKeenan> nima: root is the most priveleged user, who is allowed to install software etc
[06:21] <Madpilot> !tell nima about root
[06:21] <dabar> sudo replaces the root account, in that one user, or more, can use sudo to give commands superuser privileges.
[06:21] <CrackersKeenan> on ubuntu you are root when you type a sudo command
[06:21] <redguy> nima: including breaking it :-)
[06:21] <Madpilot> nima: another useful page to read
[06:21] <rimu> !tell rimu about root
[06:21] <Madpilot> rimu: beat you to it... ;)
[06:21] <rimu> i have no idea what the tell t hing does...
[06:21] <rimu> was trying it out
[06:21] <CrackersKeenan> Madpilot:  what is the !tell syntax about?
[06:21] <drewfus> !tell drewfus about root
[06:21] <drewfus> sweet
[06:22] <Madpilot> CrackersKeenan: it gets ubotu to pm people
[06:22] <Madpilot> !tell CrackersKeenan about mp3
[06:22] <drewfus> in my case, myself
[06:23] <nima> i think i'm just going to enable my root redguy madpilot !.. should i ?
[06:23] <durt> just use sudo su
[06:23] <drewfus> nima, i did it makes things easier sometimes
[06:23] <Madpilot> nima: use sudo - read that URL ubotu sent you
[06:24] <redguy> drewfus: pff, remove the space before swat and restart inetd again
[06:24] <nima> okk done nah i just enabled ROOT
[06:24] <nima> :D
[06:24] <drewfus> redguy, all that from a space?
[06:24] <CrackersKeenan> !tell CrackersKeenan he's a handsome lad
[06:24] <CrackersKeenan> well that didn't do anything different
[06:24] <drewfus> redguy, ok!
[06:24] <drewfus> redguy, now ill try the localhost
[06:25] <zeus1_> hey guys
[06:25] <zeus1_> im speaking to u all from
[06:25] <zeus1_> LINUX
[06:25] <zeus1_> ubuntu linux that is
[06:25] <CrackersKeenan> Madpilot:  that "!" didn't do anything weird in my last command
[06:25] <Madpilot> zeus1_: cool. Welcome to the Light Side
[06:25] <drewfus> redguy, awesome, thanks!
[06:25] <zeus1_> well...its only live cd for now
[06:25] <redguy> nima: that is really not recommended
[06:25] <zeus1_> but soon it will be a installation
[06:25] <zeus1_> dual boot installation
[06:25] <Madpilot> CrackersKeenan: it has to be a command that ubotu actually knows. try "list" for more info
[06:26] <nima> i enabled root guys but i still cant Chagne my File still read only, why not redguy?
[06:26] <redguy> drewfus: ufff, thought we'd never got it to run :-)
[06:26] <CrackersKeenan> ok thanks for the tip.  thought I must have not actually been handsome lol
[06:26] <drewfus> redguy, im suprised the space was it
[06:26] <drewfus> redguy and everyone else thanks for all the help today, im out and ill be back tomorrow
[06:27] <dabar> zeus1_: nice.
[06:27] <rimu> :-D
[06:27] <Madpilot> nima: please go and re-read that Repos page, you shouldn't have any trouble if you're careful
[06:27] <zeus1_> yep thank u all for the help;
[06:27] <dabar> !repos
[06:27] <zeus1_> i was not thinking correctly when i just burned the iso not the image
[06:27] <zeus1_> lo
[06:27] <zeus1_> lol*
[06:27] <CrackersKeenan> i'm hungry and will have to go to the markets soon.  I realise that's just a bit off topic.
[06:27] <dabar> which sucks.
[06:27] <zeus1_> ubuntu rules
[06:27] <redguy> !info swat
[06:27] <ubotu> swat: (Samba Web Administration Tool), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 3877 kB, Installed size: 9012 kB
[06:28] <QMario> Hello Seves!
[06:28] <QMario> Seveas.
[06:28] <QMario> Thank you for the information.
[06:28] <QMario> How did we get spammed anyway?
[06:28] <QMario> Does anyone know how to adjust the PKG_CONFIG_PATH?
[06:28] <CrackersKeenan> list
[06:29] <QMario> !gcc
[06:29] <ubotu> QMario: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:29] <QMario> !G++
[06:29] <CrackersKeenan> MadPilot:  where do I try this "list" you speak of?
[06:29] <benplaut> 'night
[06:29] <rickity> i am perplexed...I used rsync to backup a bunch of files with the --checksum option it ran with no errors...yet a few binary files differ after the rsync...how is this possible?
[06:29] <Madpilot> !tell CrackersKeenan about list
[06:29] <QMario> Benplaut, do you know?
[06:29] <rimu> wtf is with the ubotu bot?!
[06:29] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[06:29] <redguy> ubotu is a liar
[06:29] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:29] <ubotu> redguy: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:29] <QMario> Rimu, language... :'(.
[06:29] <nima> so i just copy this page into the file ?
[06:29] <nima> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:29] <zeus1_> is there a task manager for ubuntu
[06:29] <benplaut> QMario, i have no idea what you're talking about
[06:29] <crimsun_> you have to address ubotu properly
[06:30] <Tortel> !identd!!
[06:30] <ubotu> Tortel: Wish i knew
[06:30] <nima> which part of this page to i copy the bottom white part or top part in orange????
[06:30] <Tortel> !identd
[06:30] <rimu> yes zeus there is
[06:30] <ubotu> Tortel: Are you smoking crack?
[06:30] <Tortel> :(
[06:30] <rickity> zeus1 ps and kill ;)
[06:30] <Madpilot> nima: the orange part
[06:30] <QMario> Benplaut, "configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them."
[06:30] <rimu> applications->system tools->system monitor
[06:30] <Tortel> gAH
[06:30] <Tortel> i need a damn ident server
[06:31] <zeus1_> what was that rickity
[06:31] <zeus1_> sorry im new to linux
[06:31] <Tortel> i installed oidentd, pidentd
[06:31] <rickity> zeus1_, I was kidding
[06:31] <Tortel> but none works
[06:31] <zeus1_> what ok lol
[06:31] <QMario> Benplaut?
[06:31] <nima> OK done madpilot Still only one WINE
[06:31] <nima> OMG
[06:31] <rimu> but seriously. the ps and kill commands list out running processes and removes them
[06:32] <dabar> Tortel: ah, the isnt working issue, I know how to fix that one;)
[06:32] <CrackersKeenan> Madpilot: thanks for that... I get it now
[06:32] <Tortel> yay?
[06:32] <Tortel> how?
[06:32] <QMario>   Madpilot, "Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[06:32] <QMario> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable". What does that mean? 
[06:32] <redguy> QMario: maybe you need gtk2-dev or something like thaat?
[06:32] <Tortel> 
[06:32] <Tortel> tehe
[06:33] <Madpilot> QMario: haven't a clue, sorry. Nice musical note, though...
[06:33] <dabar> Tortel: I was referring to your non informative request for help.
[06:33] <QMario>  Tortel, heh.   ;)
[06:33] <Tortel> :(
[06:33] <QMario> Madpilot, thank you.
[06:33] <Madpilot> !doesn't work
[06:33] <ubotu> well, doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[06:34] <QMario> !Botsnack.
[06:34] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[06:34] <zeus1_> wow....ubuntu is a REALLY good operating system
[06:34] <dabar> its ok...I guess..:-/
[06:34] <zeus1_> woot it comes with the gimp
[06:34] <zeus1_> im def. going to install this tommorow
[06:34] <rickity> anybody ever use rsync with the --checksum option ?
[06:35] <dabar> no they put that one there so noone would use it;)
[06:35] <rickity> how does it work ?  it doesn't seem to flag files that differ
[06:35] <GlenC> how do you search for a file in command line?
[06:35] <redguy> GlenC: with find or locate (man find; man locate)
[06:36] <zeus1_> alright...back to windows to go DL the .iso file for the installer
[06:36] <zeus1_> brb
[06:36] <rimu> :)
[06:36] <Xorlev> How would I go about appending a file by using find? I have the files listing correctly, and using > to output to a file, but how to append to that file rather than overwrite?
[06:36] <QMario> Madpilot, how do I add stuff to environmental variables?
[06:36] <dabar> >>
[06:36] <Xorlev> dabar: Thanks
[06:37] <Madpilot> QMario: I'm not even sure what an enviromental variable is, to be honest...
[06:37] <dabar> I think, not suer anymore.
[06:37] <redguy> Xorlev: dabar is right
[06:37] <QMario> Okay, thank you.
[06:37] <dabar> QMario: DABAR=$DABARappendthisshizz
[06:37] <nima> OK everybody i disabled ALL repoostries Except Universal Haury Hedghog or wateva its called still only one WINE
[06:37] <QMario> Dabar, huh?
[06:38] <nima> WTF?
[06:38] <QMario> Tortel, huh?
[06:38] <dabar> nima, please do this. open a terminal, do sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:38] <dabar> no.
[06:39] <dabar> actually, do this in the terminal
[06:39] <nima> ok
[06:39] <nima> ... waitingg ..
[06:39] <QMario> Dabar, could you please be more specific?
[06:39] <redguy> one wine is enough for me...
[06:39] <QMario> What does Dabar mean in your answer?
[06:39] <dabar> QMario: could you? tell me what you want to append to what variable.
[06:39] <dabar> DABAR is the global variabnle
[06:40] <zeus1_> ahhh back to windows....
[06:40] <nima> waitingg dabar ! ......
[06:40] <dabar> wget www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list in that terminal, nima.
[06:40] <redguy> QMario: you sure you have gtk2+ development files?
[06:40] <QMario> Really. For everyone?
[06:40] <nima> ok
[06:40] <QMario> Redguy, let me try again.
[06:40] <dabar> QMario: that was an example.
[06:40] <nima> ok source list saved
[06:40] <nima> now ! .. refresh!?
[06:40] <dabar> nima, that downloads my sources.list file, from the server, to your folder.
[06:40] <QMario>  I am downloading them right now. 
[06:41] <dabar> nima, now, yuou need to put it into the right folder.
[06:41] <dabar> sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt
[06:41] <dabar> then, sudo aptitude update.
[06:41] <redguy> QMario: most likely that was your problem
[06:41] <dabar> then, aptitude search wine, and tell me whether there is a wine there.
[06:42] <dabar> nima, all those instructions are for you.
[06:42] <GlenC> how do you start samba?
[06:42] <dabar> hehe.
[06:42] <redguy> darn!
[06:42] <dabar> :D
[06:42] <QMario> Redguy, you were right.
[06:42] <redguy> GlenC: can you be more specific?
[06:42] <QMario> Dabar, heh.
[06:43] <QMario> Thank God.
[06:43] <QMario> Thank you Dabar and redguy. :)
[06:43] <dabar> QMario: all environment variables have capital letters in their name. all capitals.
[06:43] <QMario>  Really? 
[06:43] <redguy> GlenC: actually to start samba you would run sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[06:43] <dabar> $ENVVAR in a terminal gets replaces by the value in that variable.
[06:44] <dabar> to set a variable, VAR=value.
[06:44] <dabar> to append to a global variable, DABAR=$DABARappendthisshizz.
[06:44] <dabar> get it?
[06:45] <dabar> redguy: you would actually in debian systems.... invoke-rc.d serverName start
[06:45] <dabar> as root, or sudo in ubuntu.
[06:45] <GlenC> ugh, redguy, that fails
[06:45] <GregAsche> guys, what's wrong with esd? any time I use it, my audio and video get out of sync on video files I play, but if I don't use it, /dev/dsp always gets hogged
[06:45] <nima> sorry i'm bak dabar
[06:45] <nima> yea i did it it downloaded something noww what?
[06:45] <dabar> nima, are you really sorry?
[06:45] <dabar> nima, I would like to point out the scroll up ability of todays windows.
[06:45] <rimu> LOL
[06:45] <redguy> dabar: isn't /etc/init.d/script start easier? Is there a difference?
[06:46] <QMario> Is Debian a good Operating System?
[06:46] <zerboxx> when one "modprobe"'s something, does it edit a file somewhere? if so, which file?
[06:46] <dabar> GregAsche: what files do these things get out of sync on?
[06:46] <redguy> GlenC: maybe you have it misconfigured?
[06:46] <gigaclon> i guess
[06:46] <GregAsche> dabar: any video file
[06:46] <gigaclon> but its a bit outdated
[06:46] <dabar> QMario: debian is ok, ya, great community support. ubuntu is based on debian.
[06:47] <dabar> redguy: yes, they [prefer you use invoke-rc.d other than that, I dont have a clue w t difference is.
[06:48] <dabar> GregAsche: sorry to hear that, too bad, too sad, I dont know how to fix that. what program do you play vids in?
[06:49] <GregAsche> i was playing them in totem
[06:49] <GregAsche> let me try them in mplayer
[06:49] <dabar> GregAsche: open a terminal, and type in aptitude search totem, and tell me whether there is an i on the left of totem-gstreamer, or totem-xine.
[06:49] <dabar> and, I ownt let you.
[06:50] <GregAsche> dabar: an i next to totem-xine
[06:51] <dabar> hows your mplayer doing?
[06:51] <GregAsche> i'm starting esd right now
[06:51] <redguy> dabar: it seems that invoke-rc.d won't run initscripts that aren't configured be run in the current runlevel. Neat
[06:51] <GregAsche> i'm not using it atm
[06:51] <dabar> good to kno.
[06:52] <aru> anyone have any experience with gdesklets, I started up the shell and now I have a tool bar following my mouse
[06:53] <dabar> nima, how'd that work?
[06:53] <GregAsche> hm, i'll be right back
[06:54] <nima> sorry had to go somwhere i'm bak i just downloaded ur file and now i dont know what to do !.. can you pls say it again
[06:55] <durt> is there a way to free memory and swap?i think ive got a mem leak somewhere, because my used mem and swap wont go down
[06:55] <theplateau> does this play videos?
[06:55] <theplateau> http://jaypara.sytes.net/videos.m3u
[06:55] <nima> sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt that didnt work dabar ! .. ?
[06:55] <Xinex> can someone help me diagnose this samba problem?
[06:55] <factotum> ugh, i gotta quit looking at 64-bit G5's, makes me want to drain my bank account
[06:55] <dabar> nima, did not work how?
[06:56] <redguy> Xinex: which is?
[06:56] <Xinex> the daemons won't start
[06:56] <Xinex> I looked in the log, said a param is missing
[06:56] <durt> wouldnt it be mv sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:57] <dabar> durt, it could, but my version also works.
[06:57] <durt> alright
[06:57] <dabar> if destination is an existing folder, the file gets moved to that folder.
[06:58] <redguy> Xinex: did it tell which parameter?
[06:59] <dabar> nima, if you have a sources.list file in your current folder, you will be able to do that command.
[06:59] <Xinex> not sure. Want me to "paste" the file, redguy?
[06:59] <dabar> if your current folder is not writable by you, you will not be able to wget the file from my server.
[06:59] <redguy> Xinex: paste to ubuntu.pastebin.com your smb.conf and the log if you may
[07:00] <dabar> im off, someone help that man get universe enabled:)
[07:00] <nima> holdon dabar
[07:00] <nima> u there?
[07:01] <GregAsche> hmm
[07:01] <GregAsche> hey dabar, now I can't get esd to work
[07:01] <dabar> kk
[07:01] <redguy> nima: what did sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt say?
[07:01] <Xinex> redguy, where is the smb.conf?
[07:01] <Xinex> I forget
[07:01] <dabar> GregAsche: whats it do, I cant guess, ...
[07:01] <redguy> Xinex:  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:02] <GregAsche> dabar: well, applications can access it, but i just don't get any sound
[07:02] <GregAsche> i just ran /usr/bin/esd
[07:02] <durt> how come "free" says i have 434/504 mb mem used, but system-monitor says i have used only 190?
[07:02] <Xinex> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347416 , redguy
[07:02] <dabar> ok, so you ran it, and it is still running in the terminal you ran it in?
[07:03] <GregAsche> yes
[07:03] <GregAsche> well, it's independent of the terminal
[07:03] <GregAsche> i used an &
[07:03] <Madpilot> GregAsche: try just typing "esd" at a prompt - you should get a musical tone
[07:03] <GregAsche> no musical tone
[07:03] <jorgp> what repos do I need for transcode using hoary?
[07:04] <Xinex> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347419 , redguy
[07:04] <Madpilot> !info transcode
[07:04] <jorgp> |transcode
[07:05] <jorgp> !info transcode
[07:06] <jorgp> heh, says packages does not exist
[07:06] <redguy> Xinex: hmm, you sure it's not running?
[07:06] <Xinex> pretty sure
[07:06] <Xinex> said the daemons failed
[07:06] <Xinex> hmmm
[07:06] <Xinex> I guess it is running
[07:06] <Xinex> weird
[07:07] <heatxsink> hello all, I know this is a dumb question but how can I get DVD's working on ubuntu
[07:07] <heatxsink> I have it working at home, but I forgot how I did it
[07:07] <nalioth> !tell heatxsink about restricted
[07:09] <redguy> Xinex: stop the daemons
[07:09] <Xinex> how and why?
[07:10] <heatxsink> aahaha
[07:10] <heatxsink> nalioth:  thanks
[07:10] <redguy> Xinex: how did you start samba?
[07:10] <Xinex> the way you told me I think
[07:10] <redguy> Xinex: ah. ok :-)
[07:11] <Xinex> I was glen
[07:11] <redguy> Xinex: so now killall smbd && killall nmbd
[07:11] <Xinex> I can't atm
[07:11] <Xinex> transferring a file
[07:12] <redguy> Xinex: check if the processes are actually killed
[07:12] <redguy> Xinex: you need printing in samba?
[07:12] <PurpleMotion> whats up people
[07:12] <Xinex> no, redguy
[07:12] <PurpleMotion> Seveas, you have a q&d two-liner for the java package,w hat is it?
[07:13] <nalioths_dog> PurpleMotion: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[07:13] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: is that what you are lookin for ?
[07:13] <PurpleMotion> you da m-f'in man, yo
[07:13] <redguy> Xinex: comment out [printers]  and [print$]  sections then
[07:14] <Xinex> is there a way to block comment?
[07:14] <Xinex> instead of ##?
[07:14] <redguy> Xinex: don't think so
[07:15] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: dont you mean my dog?
[07:15] <PurpleMotion> The dog just does tricks he's trained to do :>
[07:15] <redguy> Xinex: after that, after making sure that smbd and nmbd aren't running, start samba with sudo invoke-rc.s samba start
[07:16] <nalioth> never thought of it that way
[07:16] <Xinex> I tried that first, redguy
[07:16] <Madpilot> nalioth: is nalioths_dog another bot?
[07:16] <nalioth> nope, the dog is not a bot
[07:16] <damnhil> are bots allowed in this channel/canal?
[07:17] <PurpleMotion> the dog is a script?
[07:17] <nalioth> damnhil: only one....ubotu
[07:17] <nalioth> PurpleMotion: yep, just a script
[07:17] <holycow> http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ <-- why didn't anyone tell me about this before?
[07:17] <holycow> -_-
[07:17] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell Madpilot about yourself
[07:17] <redguy> Xinex: try that after commenting out the printers
[07:18] <antonio_> anyone have any luck with wireless sniffers on hoary?
[07:19] <kevogod> I am sure this has been asked 1 million times, but does anyone know what happened to the sun-j2re1.5 package on hoary-extras?
[07:19] <PurpleMotion> nope
[07:19] <PurpleMotion> just build it
[07:19] <redguy> it is no more
[07:19] <PurpleMotion> pretty simple stuff with the right instructions
[07:19] <kevogod> I know, but I am wondering what the reason is.
[07:20] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, quick-java is Quick And Dirty Java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[07:20] <ubotu> okay, PurpleMotion
[07:20] <redguy> Xinex: any luck with that?
[07:20] <PurpleMotion> there, now we have !quick-java
[07:20] <PurpleMotion> !quick-java
[07:20] <ubotu> I heard quick-java is Quick And Dirty Java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[07:21] <PurpleMotion> i need to fix it
[07:21] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, forget quick-java
[07:21] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: i forgot quick-java
[07:21] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, quick-java is Quick And Dirty Java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[07:21] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: okay
[07:21] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, thanks
[07:21] <ubotu> pas de quoi, PurpleMotion
[07:22] <jorgp> can someone please run
[07:22] <jorgp> gst-compprep-0.8 --gst-debug-level=0 > /dev/null
[07:22] <jorgp> my segfaults
[07:23] <Xinex> redguy, wait, I'm transferring a file
[07:23] <jorgp> using hoary
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> wow - i come back - and theres 1000+ msgs to me from some spambot attack. :P
[07:25] <antonio_> anyone have anyluck with wireless sniffers?
[07:26] <pagefault> I believe your wireless card need to support monitor mode to use those
[07:29] <PurpleMotion> jorgp, i will
[07:31] <PurpleMotion> {jay@shitbrick(~)}$: gst-compprep-0.8 --gst-debug-level=0 > /dev/null
[07:31] <PurpleMotion> {jay@shitbrick(~)}$:
[07:31] <PurpleMotion> nothing
[07:34] <Xinex> redguy, invoke-rc.s not found
[07:35] <noobler> anyone know any workarounds for vncviewer fullscreen f8 bug?
[07:36] <PurpleMotion> isnt it invoke-rcS.d?
[07:36] <PurpleMotion> just type invoke and hit tab
[07:37] <PurpleMotion> invoke-rc.d
[07:37] <Xinex> cool
[07:37] <Xinex> thanks
[07:37] <jorgp> anyone know what repos I need to add to get transcode installed?
[07:37] <PurpleMotion> i typed invoke and hit tab, heh
[07:37] <PurpleMotion> restricted
[07:37] <PurpleMotion> !restricted
[07:37] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:38] <redguy> Xinex: were cool?
[07:38] <vortek> hello
[07:38] <Xinex> I think so
[07:39] <vortek> I tried like 10 kernel compiles no matter what I do It says it cant sync and says unable to mount VFS.. I have DEVFS compiled directly into the kernel also
[07:39] <vortek> Why is it doing this ? I've never had to recompile a kernel 10 times
[07:39] <vortek> is this a glitch ?
[07:40] <vortek> in knoppix
[07:40] <vortek> don't be scared I don't bite
[07:41] <vortek>  why does this question scare the crap out of EVERY ONE all the timne
[07:41] <vortek> lol
[07:41] <IceDC571> is there any way to tell apt to ignore a package?
[07:41] <IceDC571> i keep getting errors with gnome-session
[07:41] <vortek> i also ran mkinitrd and added it to grub and in the .config
[07:42] <DjKritical> I have an NVidia graphics card... are the default video drivers good enough or should I install the nvidia restricted ones?\
[07:45] <DjKritical> okay easier question'
[07:45] <DjKritical> Is it safe to remove the ubuntu cd from the apt sources list?
[07:45] <deFrysk> yes
[07:46] <DjKritical> cool thanks =)
[07:46] <deFrysk> if you are on line that is
[07:46] <deFrysk> and if you want acceleration with your nvidia-card
[07:46] <deFrysk> ! nvidia
[07:46] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:46] <DjKritical> Awesome thanks :D
[07:46] <deFrysk> DjKritical, have fun :)
[07:48] <jorgp> ok, I have the hoary-extras in sources.list and it still says transcode not available
[07:49] <deFrysk> ! info transcode
[07:49] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, deFrysk
[07:49] <deFrysk> !info transcode
[07:52] <DjKritical> oh no... installing the nvidia drivers has screwed up gnome :O
[07:53] <deFrysk> jorgp, it should be in multiverse
[07:53] <DjKritical> everything is half as bright and the colours are all wrong
[07:53] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did the nvidia splash work ?
[07:54] <rimu> when i go to install the nvidia-glx package, synaptic warns me that it is going to remove the ubuntu-desktop package.....
[07:54] <rimu> that scares me a bit
[07:54] <rimu> so i stopped
[07:54] <rimu> is it normal?
[07:54] <rimu> ubuntu-desktop sounds kinda important!
[07:54] <DjKritical> deFrysk: yes it did
[07:55] <jorgp> deFrysk: I have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse in sources.list
[07:55] <deFrysk> ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage witch can safely be removed , but I am not sure why it would do that when installing nvidia-glx
[07:55] <No1Viking> I have two network cards. If I want to change and make the other one active and connected to Internet, how do I do?
[07:55] <rimu> possibly because nvidia-gls is one of ubuntu-desktop's dependencies?
[07:56] <DjKritical> deFrysk: any suggestions?...
[07:56] <holycow> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/08/25/whatisXwindow.html?CMP=OTC-0O724Z062301  <-- excellent article on x server architecture for noobs
[07:56] <jorgp> Package transcode is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:56] <deFrysk> DjKritical, system > preferences > screenresolution and check if its set properly
[07:57] <kevogod> NolViking: Go to System --> Administration --> Networking.
[07:58] <No1Viking> kevogod, thanks!  :)
[07:58] <DjKritical> deFrysk: yeah it is
[07:58] <nima> OMG GUYS
[07:58] <DjKritical> I tried other resolitions...
[07:58] <DjKritical> but couldn't change the 60hz
[07:59] <nima> Can somebody help me setting up synaptic.. so that i can get WINE i have been trying for 2 hours no joke ! ..
[07:59] <deFrysk> DjKritical, could be your screenresolutions are not set properly then , 60 hz is pretty low
[07:59] <kevogod> nima: Are you having a problem with libwine and having it as the wrong version?
[07:59] <JDahl> I thought tritium packaged matplotlib, but it's not listed in breezy :/
[07:59] <DjKritical> deFrysk: 60hz worked before installing the nVidia drivers?
[07:59] <nima> no kevogod it just doesnt find it !... it only finds one wine which is Wine-DOC
[08:00] <No1Viking> nima, update sources.list
[08:00] <deFrysk> DjKritical, ceck if xorg.conf recognized your monitor
[08:00] <kevogod> nima: You must enable universe.
[08:00] <DjKritical> ok brb
[08:00] <deFrysk> check*
[08:00] <nima> I did all that b4!..
[08:00] <nima> can u send me ur sources.list file
[08:00] <jorgp> heh, I am having same issue with transcode, it can only fine transcode-doc
[08:00] <nima> so i can just psate it ova mine! ... ?
[08:01] <No1Viking> !sources.list
[08:01] <ubotu> No1Viking: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:01] <jorgp> find
[08:01] <No1Viking> !sources
[08:01] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:01] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I just noticed... even my VC windows arn't showing properly!
[08:02] <DjKritical> where is xorg.conf?
[08:02] <deFrysk> do you know your hor and vert resolution settings DjKritical ?
[08:02] <Belutz> DjKritical: /etc/X11
[08:02] <Madpilot> nima: that paste URL in ubotu's post should have all you need, and if you're still screwed up after using it, I'm not sure what to suggest...
[08:02] <DjKritical> deFrysk: you mean 1024/9..?
[08:02] <deFrysk> DjKritical, its in /ect/X11/xorg.com
[08:02] <deFrysk> no horizontal and vertical refresh
[08:03] <DjKritical> vert rtefreash = 43-60
[08:03] <DjKritical> horiz sync = 28-60
[08:03] <Madpilot> cool. "find --help" has to be the most incomprhensible --help file I've seen yet...
[08:03] <deFrysk> those are the correct ones ?
[08:03] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I honestly have no idea?
[08:04] <deFrysk> DjKritical, does it state a monitortyp in your xorg.conf ?
[08:04] <DjKritical> generic
[08:04] <deFrysk> not recognized then
[08:05] <deFrysk> DjKritical, google specs <yourmonitor to find the hor and vert refresh rates
[08:05] <DjKritical> okay will do
[08:05] <DjKritical> (Thank god I have another pc close by :D)
[08:05] <deFrysk> :)
[08:05] <deFrysk> is it a new monitor ?
[08:05] <deFrysk> new as in new model
[08:06] <DjKritical> Philips 107s5
[08:06] <DjKritical> It's probably 1 or 2 years old?
[08:07] <DjKritical> maybe less?
[08:07] <DjKritical> I forgot to mention...
[08:08] <DjKritical> I'm running 2 pcs off this monitor... with a keyboard activated switch
[08:08] <DjKritical> Could I just get the settings from this PC (Debian)
[08:08] <DjKritical> ?
[08:08] <DjKritical> I'm not having much luck finding the v/h refreash rates on google
[08:08] <nima> madpilot just enabled community then went terminal and pasted all that from that site into my sources.list file ( overwrited the other stuff ) And search WINE and NOTHING
[08:08] <nima> omg this is pissing me off!!!!!!
[08:09] <nima> enabled univrse*
[08:09] <deFrysk> DjKritical, does it use the same monitor ?
[08:09] <DjKritical> yes
[08:09] <deFrysk> nima, apt-get update ?
[08:09] <nima> wats dat defrysk !?
[08:09] <DjKritical> I just his "Scroll lock, Scroll lock, Escape" and it switched pc
[08:10] <Madpilot> nima: do what deFrysk just suggested: type "apt-get update" at a regular command prompt
[08:10] <eob84> can anyone tell me how to change my resolution through the xorg.conf
[08:10] <Madpilot> that forces apt to check your sources.list and download the new lists...
[08:10] <deFrysk> hey Madpilot  :)
[08:10] <DjKritical> Inside XF86Config-4 it's got.... Horizontal Sync = 30-70,  Vertical Sync = 50-160
[08:10] <Madpilot> !fixres
[08:10] <eob84> I installed fglrx
[08:10] <ubotu> [fixres]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:10] <nima> where do i type that in madpilot?
[08:10] <deFrysk> DjKritical, use those and log the specs :)
[08:11] <DjKritical> log the specs?
[08:11] <Madpilot> nima: in your terminal
[08:11] <deFrysk> DjKritical, yes so that you know them for a next time
[08:11] <nima> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied
[08:11] <redguy> DjKritical: XF86Config-4 ?? which ubuntu are you using?
[08:11] <deFrysk> DjKritical, always log your needed info
[08:12] <deFrysk> redguy, no those are specs from a debian box ;)
[08:12] <nima> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:12] <redguy> nima: sudo apt-get update
[08:12] <Madpilot> nima: do you still have Synaptic running? if you do, close it
[08:12] <deFrysk> nima, close synaptic please
[08:12] <nima> ok
[08:12] <deFrysk> nima, and try again
[08:12] <redguy> deFrysk: ah!
[08:12] <geneo93> nima sudo apt-get update
[08:12] <nima> ok its doin some crap
[08:12] <nima> Done
[08:12] <nima> now go bak into synaptic?
[08:13] <Madpilot> nima: sure. search for wine
[08:13] <deFrysk> nima, make sure not to act as an experienced user when you are not
[08:13] <deFrysk> to avoid misunderstandings
[08:13] <nima> when did i act as an experienced user deFrysk?
[08:13] <nima> i just started usin linux today ! ....
[08:14] <deFrysk> nima, next time mention you are a new user so we can check the obvious
[08:14] <deFrysk> like apt-get update ;)
[08:14] <nima> Yep to bad it didnt work deFrysk
[08:14] <nima> I already tried all that someone even sent me there sources.list file ! ..
[08:14] <nima> and yea didnt work wine-doc is only file that comes up
[08:14] <Madpilot> nima: still?
[08:15] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I changed the settings to be exactly like my other PC... and it's still doing the same thing =(
[08:15] <redguy> !find wine
[08:15] <adriyel_rakham> hi guys
[08:15] <deFrysk> DjKritical, restarted X ?
[08:15] <Madpilot> !+find wine
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'wine' (14 shown): libwine ;; libwine-alsa ;; libwine-arts ;; libwine-capi ;; libwine-cil ;; libwine-dev ;; libwine-jack ;; libwine-nas ;; libwine-print ;; libwine-twain ;; wine ;; wine-doc ;; wine-utils ;; winesetuptk.
[08:15] <nima> Didnt WorK!
[08:15] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I restarted the entire PC!
[08:15] <adriyel_rakham> its adriyel, someone evidently took my name :(
[08:15] <redguy> !info wine
[08:15] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[08:15] <CrackersKeenan> to answer a question i was ansering earlier:  Any aussies who want to hear JJJ via internet radio, get realplayer and open the .ram location through it.  Great stuff :)
[08:15] <deFrysk> DjKritical, changed screenresolution in settings of gnome ?
[08:15] <Madpilot> adriyel_rakham: if you're registered here, use GHOST to kick the other user and get your nick back
[08:16] <adriyel_rakham> but I didn't register my real name
[08:16] <DjKritical> DjKritical: How do you mean?... I'll try now... it's very hard to do tho!.. I can't see much
[08:16] <deFrysk> DjKritical, system prefs screenresolution
[08:16] <adriyel_rakham> anyone here use Enlightenment Desktop?
[08:16] <redguy> nima, paste your sources.list and output of apt-get update to ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[08:17] <Madpilot> nima: if you're using the "official" sources.list - from that pastebin site - and you ran apt upgrade, I have NO idea why you aren't seeing a whole lot of wine stuff
[08:17] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I've tried changing the refreash rate a few times now... still no go..
[08:17] <redguy> nima: to be more specific, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[08:18] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I can't even see what I'm changing it to
[08:18] <nima> OK this is exactly wat i did.. i went sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list PAste from dat site overwrite it all then save.. then run it and yea didnt work
[08:18] <Madpilot> ubotu tell nima about pastebin
[08:18] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did you run the monitor on the debian box while installing ubuntu ?
[08:18] <nima> and ok i will paste my file to pastebin
[08:19] <DjKritical> deFrysk: yes?
[08:19] <deFrysk> DjKritical, then your X han never detected your monitor ;)
[08:20] <DjKritical> deFrysk: Ubuntu installed perfectly tho... and so did the xwindows?
[08:20] <nima> okk um here madpilot
[08:20] <nima> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347463
[08:20] <deFrysk> DjKritical, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:20] <DjKritical> okay will do
[08:20] <nima> dats my source.list file
[08:20] <durt> nvidia drivers are a pain
[08:20] <redguy> nima: you sure that the file is in /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[08:21] <deFrysk> durt, they are not if you do it properly
[08:21] <kevogod> durt: Well, then you must have never used ATI drivers.
[08:21] <geneo93> no there quite simple
[08:21] <Madpilot> nima: that looks exactly like mine, and I can find a pile of wine-related stuff thru Synaptic...
[08:21] <nima> redguy file is in /etc/apt
[08:21] <Xorlev> Hmm, so I use that gtk2-engine-gtk-qt thing, and it makes all my GTK apps look better (X-Chat, Gaim, etc.), and when I run Synaptic from command line (sudo synaptic) it looks great with the styles, but when I run it from the KMenu, it looks like a shitty ripoff of Windows 98. Ideas?
[08:22] <nima> and also in der is Secring.gpg source.list source.list.save.. ect!...
[08:22] <redguy> nima: ok, now shut down synaptic and paste output of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search wine
[08:22] <durt> i have a toshiba, so i get a black bar on the left in resolutions other than 1400x1050, and that took forever to figure out how to get
[08:22] <nima> ok redguy
[08:22] <DjKritical> deFrysk: Okay I did all that...
[08:23] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I'll tell you now tho... I didn't know the answers to 90% of those questions
[08:23] <deFrysk> ok gor the refresh correct now ? DjKritical  ?
[08:23] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I don't know.. I guess I need to restart X?
[08:23] <deFrysk> DjKritical, mostly use defaults in that
[08:24] <DjKritical> deFrysk: Whats the command to restart x again?
[08:24] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did you set the first to nv ?
[08:24] <redguy> DjKritical: press ctr-alt-backspace
[08:24] <nima> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347465 redguy
[08:24] <DjKritical> deFrysk: no I choose nvidia
[08:24] <geneo93> ctrl alt backspace
[08:24] <DjKritical> deFrysk: should I go back to nv?
[08:24] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did ir get your monito?
[08:25] <DjKritical> deFrysk: no it didn't look like it did
[08:25] <deFrysk> strange
[08:25] <redguy> nima: seems ok, now sudo apt-get install wine
[08:25] <DjKritical> strange?...
[08:25] <nima> and thats other one redguy http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347467
[08:25] <DjKritical> does it normally detect monitor settings?
[08:25] <nima> oh install
[08:25] <deFrysk> it should recognize yor monito DjKritical
[08:25] <nima> i wrote cache or something
[08:25] <Ick> unbuntu uses apt, right?
[08:26] <Ick> or something like it?
[08:26] <Xorlev> Ick: Yes
[08:26] <DjKritical> deFrysk: would having it plugged into this screen splitter screw it up?
[08:26] <deFrysk> DjKritical, likely yes
[08:26] <nima> dats install one redguy http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/347468
[08:26] <geneo93> nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:26] <geneo93>   this is important step
[08:26] <Madpilot> Ick: Synaptic for graphical stuff, apt or aptitude on the command line
[08:26] <deFrysk> is should recognize any 2 jr old monitor
[08:27] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I just reconfigured again and choose NV
[08:27] <DjKritical> and it's working again
[08:27] <Ick> what's the deal with sudo?
[08:27] <DjKritical> but I would really like to figure this out tho
[08:27] <deFrysk> DjKritical, if you are not a gamer it will do fine
[08:28] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I am a gamer =(
[08:28] <Madpilot> !sudo
[08:28] <ubotu> [sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:28] <Madpilot> Ick: see ubotu above ^^^
[08:28] <deFrysk> DjKritical, try to run the config without the splitter and it should detect fine
[08:28] <redguy> nima: what architecture do you have?
[08:28] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> I can't install ubuntu, and it's driving me nuts.
[08:28] <DjKritical> deFrysk: okay I'll do it now, you going to be here for 5 minutes?
[08:28] <nima> wat u mean redguy architecture ?
[08:28] <No1Viking> I try do do the following "sudo aptitude install xfree86-driver-fglrx" and get this "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:28] <No1Viking>   xfree86-driver-fglrx: Depends: xserver-xfree86 (>= 4.3) but it is not installable
[08:28] <No1Viking> ". What to do about it?
[08:28] <deFrysk> DjKritical, hurry its almost time for coffee ;p
[08:28] <geneo93> what the since of installing nvidia drivers if you dont enable them
[08:29] <DjKritical> deFrysk: okay brb asap
[08:29] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> nima what kind of processor is it?
[08:29] <redguy> nima: i386? AMD64?
[08:29] <No1Viking> And yes, it's the ATI driver
[08:29] <nima> AMD 64
[08:29] <nima> and i used AMD 64 cd
[08:29] <adriyel_rakham> ouch, ATI machine?
[08:29] <nima> to install
[08:29] <redguy> ah
[08:29] <adriyel_rakham> <--- AMD 64 + NV here.
[08:29] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> is it an amd64 or an amd?
[08:29] <nima> HuHHHHH?
[08:30] <nima> amd 64
[08:30] <No1Viking> ". What to do about it?
[08:30] <No1Viking>   xfree86-driver-fglrx: Depends: xserver-xfree86 (>= 4.3) but it is not installable
[08:30] <CrackersKeenan> there has to be something better than sound juicer for ripping my CDs
[08:30] <No1Viking> I try do do the following "sudo aptitude install xfree86-driver-fglrx" and get this "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:30] <nima> and i used Version 5.04 for AMD64/EM64T
[08:30] <No1Viking>   xfree86-driver-fglrx: Depends: xserver-xfree86 (>= 4.3) but it is not installable
[08:30] <nima> !..... redguy
[08:30] <ubotu> nima: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:30] <nima> do wat come in packet of 5 ?
[08:31] <No1Viking> !xfree86-driver-fglrx
[08:31] <ubotu> No1Viking: What?
[08:31] <nima> ubotu do wat come in packet of 5?
[08:31] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nima
[08:31] <No1Viking> !xfree86-driver
[08:31] <ubotu> No1Viking: No idea
[08:31] <geneo93> try xorg
[08:31] <redguy> nima: there is no wine version for your architecture in the repository
[08:31] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> I used the shipping service, and in addition to the install discs and some of the livecd's not working, I can't download the iso from the internet.
[08:31] <nima> OhH
[08:31] <redguy> nima: that's why you don't seem to see it
[08:31] <nima> dats shittttt
[08:32] <nima> wat if i install normal version linux ! .. ( not 64 ) den can i get it
[08:32] <geneo93> No1Viking:  hoary use xorg
[08:32] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> Yeah, but you can't cuz that's not your arch.
[08:32] <No1Viking> OK
[08:32] <No1Viking> Thanks
[08:32] <DjKritical> deFrysk: It detected the screen this time!
[08:32] <DjKritical> deFrysk: But when I choose the nvidia driver... same problem
[08:33] <DjKritical> deFrysk: all the colours are still screwy
[08:33] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> I couldn't get it for my ppc either.
[08:33] <nima> umm i was using Widnows xp before linux!.. when theres windows xp 64 bit out ! ....
[08:33] <deFrysk> now again go to the resolutionsetting in gnome
[08:33] <deFrysk> and set it if possible to a higher hz
[08:33] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> Yeah, I wish I could install xp. I could download and burn this disc in no time.
[08:33] <redguy> nima: but fear not! ask google for ubuntu 32-bit chroot. there should be a thread in the forums or on the wiki on how to do that
[08:34] <DjKritical> deFrysk: same issue
[08:34] <redguy> ah!
[08:34] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> what's faster, kubuntu or normal gnome based ubuntu?
[08:34] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I set it to quite a few different combinations...
[08:34] <redguy> !tell nima about chroot
[08:34] <deFrysk> then check if the hor. and vert. settings are corresponding with the debian ones
[08:35] <deFrysk> in xorg.conf
[08:35] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I see some horizonatal lines at some of them... but the colours always stay the same
[08:35] <Madpilot> you can run the 32bit version on 64bit architecture
[08:35] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I think I installed debian with the splitter in aswell :P
[08:35] <Madpilot> 32bit version of Ubuntu, that is
[08:35] <deFrysk> DjKritical, in hoary ?
[08:35] <AdmiralCrunch> Cry_ubuntu_livec, I think GNOME is faster, its less bloated
[08:35] <nima> so after i do that redguy i can get wine??? coz if i cant use wine den half the stuff i need wont be good ?? :(
[08:35] <DjKritical> deFrysk: yeah in hoary
[08:35] <deFrysk> a sec
[08:36] <Madpilot> nima: what do you need wine for, anyway?
[08:36] <nima> some programs for Xbox
[08:36] <redguy> nima: dont expect that every app wil run in wine
[08:36] <nima> transfering and stuff
[08:36] <deFrysk> DjKritical, sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[08:36] <nima> and games etc! ....
[08:36] <geneo93> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:37] <AdmiralCrunch> nima, the only way to make sure stuff works, is to make a vmware for Windows, Wine or Cedga wont do everything
[08:37] <nima> vmware for windows?
[08:37] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I think I already have
[08:37] <AdmiralCrunch> VMWare is for Linux, to run Windows
[08:38] <deFrysk> run nvidia-settings DjKritical
[08:38] <nima> also ! , MY Sound still doesnt work :( !... hehe ! .. vmware heyy
[08:38] <Madpilot> nima: VMware is payware...
[08:38] <deFrysk> maybe it helps
[08:38] <DjKritical> okay
[08:38] <HappyFool> or just dual-boot windows and ubuntu
[08:38] <redguy> AdmiralCrunch: isn't there VMWare for windows as well?
[08:38] <AdmiralCrunch> yes
[08:38] <DjKritical> gtk-warning - cannot open display
[08:38] <DjKritical> o_O?
[08:39] <deFrysk> DjKritical, did you run nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[08:41] <deFrysk> ?
[08:41] <DjKritical> deFrysk: good question
[08:41] <deFrysk> do it , now and restart x
[08:41] <DjKritical> I did the steps from ubuntoguide.org
[08:41] <deFrysk> DjKritical, wrong guide
[08:41] <nima> MmM is there anyway i can install windows and linux!? on at same time?
[08:41] <geneo93> if the nvidia drivers are installed the right wat there is no need to edit any files
[08:41] <DjKritical> I was just fooling around with nvidia-settings :D
[08:41] <deFrysk> DjKritical, the wike is god ubuntuguide = devel
[08:41] <deFrysk> wiki*
[08:42] <DjKritical> lol okay I will remember that =)
[08:42] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[08:42] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[08:42] <DjKritical> okay I'll run that command now
[08:42] <deFrysk> DjKritical, not even remembering what you did shows the evil of ubuntuguide
[08:42] <nima> Can u have multi operating system wit linux and windows ?
[08:42] <deFrysk> DjKritical, after that restart x
[08:42] <Madpilot> nima: of course.
[08:42] <Madpilot> !dualboot
[08:42] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:43] <CrackersKeenan> anyone use something better than sound juicer for ripping cds?
[08:43] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: grip
[08:43] <nerdy2> cdparanoia? :)
[08:43] <DjKritical> deFrysk: noooo =(
[08:43] <redguy> grip rox
[08:43] <CrackersKeenan> redguy: thanks - is it quicker?
[08:43] <geneo93> CrackersKeenan:  i use grip
[08:44] <nerdy2> sound juicer works for me
[08:44] <DjKritical> deFrysk: let me know when you're back
[08:44] <geneo93> slow as hell though
[08:44] <nima> UmM madpilot ... if i want to install windows now doi have to format / delete ubuntu again !?
[08:44] <CrackersKeenan> nerdy2:  it seems to be extremely slow
[08:44] <nerdy2> oh yea that it is
[08:44] <redguy> maybe slow, but perfect rips
[08:44] <Madpilot> nima: no. read that wiki page that ubotu posted above ^^^
[08:44] <CrackersKeenan> defrysk:  is ubuntuguide really so bad?
[08:44] <redguy> you can tweak it to be faster anyway
[08:45] <nalioth_zZz> Madpilot: nima will need the recover ubuntu after installing windows page
[08:45] <CrackersKeenan> redguy: are you talking about grip or sound juicer?
[08:45] <AdmiralCrunch> CrackersKeenan, its helped me before
[08:45] <Madpilot> nalioth_zZz: right, forgot about that...
[08:45] <CrackersKeenan> admiralcrunch: me too, many times.  some people pay out on it though
[08:45] <geneo93> redguy:  if you have 300+ cds to rip use musicmatch
[08:45] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: grip, the speed seems to heavily depend on the drive
[08:46] <redguy> geneo93: musicmatch you say?
[08:46] <CrackersKeenan> redguy:  mine will be slow then, my computer is a bit of a dinosaur
[08:46] <AdmiralCrunch> Tweaking you hdstat will make ripping faster
[08:46] <AdmiralCrunch> Grip is good program though
[08:46] <geneo93> redguy:  which drive the dual layer dvd or the harddrive
[08:47] <nima> that sounds easyy enough to have to OS
[08:47] <nima> but i have to formatt all ova again omg
[08:47] <redguy> geneo93: ?
[08:47] <nima> to have two OS*
[08:48] <geneo93> AdmiralCrunch:  i have a dually and i use both processors and its still slow
[08:48] <nima> What is best Winrar Program!?
[08:48] <geneo93> nima:  i have 7 oses
[08:48] <nima> Geneo .. wat da is der 7 OS ??? lol
[08:49] <nima> which 7 u haev?
[08:49] <geneo93> redguy:  it wont do more than 4x
[08:49] <redguy> geneo93: you were referring to "New Musicmatch Jukebox Plus 10"
[08:50] <nima> i need a Winrar tool and CD copying tool that u can copy ISO with ! ...
[08:50] <redguy> geneo93: I prefer amaroK, it doesn't cost 40$ and it runs on linux
[08:51] <Madpilot> nima: in Ubuntu or XP?
[08:51] <geneo93> suse mdk cooker mdk 10.2 ubuntu kubuntu beosR5 win98 se
[08:51] <geneo93> urar-nofree
[08:51] <nima> Ubuntu! ...
[08:51] <nima> yea unrar-nofree didnt work for me!.. or i dont know how to use it ! .....
[08:51] <Madpilot> nima: Ubuntu will burn ISOs right from Nautilus (the file manager)
[08:52] <geneo93> redguy:  i have old version of musicmatch from 2001
[08:52] <nima> ok and unrar-nofree how do i use it ( doesnt unrar the rar file i have )
[08:52] <redguy> geneo93: which runs on linux?
[08:52] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> Yay! I finally got it downloaded burning it now!
[08:52] <geneo93> redguy:  it rips at 18-19x
[08:52] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> btw has anybody run damn small?
[08:52] <GlenC> I have an old bad computer set up as a file server plugged into the router. Any movies I try to stream from it are choppy, is there a way I can speed up the network, or is the old pc just the problem?
[08:53] <redguy> geneo93: so like a cd in 3-4 minutes?
[08:53] <geneo93> redguy:  yes musicmatch on linux not available anymore
[08:54] <geneo93> redguy:  about 5 minutes
[08:54] <redguy> seems fast
[08:55] <redguy> GlenC: hi again :-)
[08:55] <GlenC> hi
[08:55] <geneo93> thats at 160kbs
[08:55] <redguy> GlenC: you might check if you have dma enabled on the file server
[08:55] <GlenC> ?
[08:56] <redguy> GlenC: I mean harddrive dma
[08:56] <GlenC> redguy: ?
[08:56] <zerboxx> If my university uses VPN for wireless connetions, what is a good vpn client for linux? (they recommend Cisco, but they dont know much about linux so I want to dbl check)
[08:56] <redguy> GlenC: do you have ubuntu there?
[08:56] <geneo93> GlenC:  how old is it
[08:56] <GlenC> yes, redguy
[08:57] <GlenC> geneo93, it had win98 so more than 5 years probably
[08:57] <geneo93> puke cisco
[08:57] <HappyFool> 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda' will tell you if dma is on (it should be)
[08:57] <geneo93> is that video your streaming
[08:58] <zerboxx> geneo93: "puke cisco" I assume then it's bad, so would you recommend anything else?
[08:59] <geneo93> anything but cisco
[08:59] <durt> let me see that thong
[08:59] <zerboxx> geneo93: lol, well since I'm not sure of the options, other then searching synaptic for "vpn" can you be any more specific? ;)
[09:00] <geneo93> zerboxx:  just search in synaptic for vpn it should give you lots of choices
[09:01] <geneo93> i cant do it at the momet have something going like apt getting todays updates for breezy
[09:02] <geneo93> thats why the lag
[09:02] <moomooboy-brb> hi can anyone tell me why my laptop cant run on 1024x768 .. :( its a 14.1 inch screen
[09:03] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> that sucks.
[09:03] <redguy> maybe it's broken?
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> lol
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> it will run
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> but it looks fizzy :(
[09:03] <durt> fizzy?
[09:03] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> did you try shouting at it? it worked in dune.
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> lol
[09:03] <moomooboy-brb> yeh like the letters arent focused
[09:04] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> in 800 or 1024?
[09:04] <moomooboy-brb> 1024
[09:04] <redguy> moomooboy-brb: just the letters?
[09:04] <durt> is it showing 96 dpi?
[09:04] <moomooboy-brb> 96 dpi?
[09:04] <geneo93> try 75
[09:04] <durt> system>preferences>font
[09:04] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> your name is durt.
[09:04] <moomooboy-brb> ill try now ^^..
[09:04] <durt> damn straight
[09:04] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> do pictures come through okay?
[09:05] <durt> is it just the text?
[09:05] <CrackersKeenan> anyone know how to convert oggs to mp3s?
[09:05] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> no
[09:06] <redguy> if it's just the text then font rendering should be set to subpixel rendering. I think you can do it in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:06] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: why would you want to do that?
[09:06] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: you would lose quality
[09:06] <HappyFool> use ogg123 to get them to .wav, and lame to get them to mp3. one apparently loses audio quality (how much, i don't know) doing this.
[09:07] <geneo93> use flac its much better
[09:07] <durt> no, use wav
[09:08] <CrackersKeenan> redguy: thinking of saving space.  will see how it goes using xmms with oggs.  But also one day I'll want to load these songs onto an mp3 player, and I"m thinking ahead  :)
[09:08] <xmachine> ei guys, need help. my X takes too long come up after gdm login. im using xorg.
[09:08] <xmachine> repeated xorg logs like
[09:08] <xmachine> (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
[09:08] <xmachine> (II) RADEON(0): [RESUME]  Attempting to re-init Radeon hardware.
[09:08] <xmachine> (II) RADEON(0): [agp]  Mode 0x1f000201 [AGP 0x8086/0x1a30; Card 0x1002/0x4c57] 
[09:08] <moomooboy-brb> nope it wasnt the fonts :(
[09:09] <moomooboy-brb> i really wanan run 1024x768 T.T .. 800x600 just looks ugly
[09:09] <durt> did you see if the fonts were at 96 dpi?
[09:09] <durt> and your screen too?
[09:09] <moomooboy-brb> yeh it was on 96
[09:10] <moomooboy-brb> my screen?
[09:10] <moomooboy-brb> i changed the font to 75
[09:10] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: your player doesn't support Vorbis files?
[09:10] <durt> you need to add a line to xorg.conf
[09:10] <adriyel_rakham> may I make a suggestion? use mplayer, all my media files work with it :)
[09:10] <durt> but im not sure what "DisplaySize" should be
[09:10] <CrackersKeenan> redguy: it does... but I thought the oggs would be huge.  in fact they seem to be only 3-4 megs just like an mp3.
[09:10] <Madpilot> use Totem, all my media files work with that... ;)
[09:11] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, ogg's are really just a sister format to Mp3, except its free and open
[09:11] <adriyel_rakham> Madpilot, oh yeah? what about windows audio/video?
[09:11] <adriyel_rakham>  :P
[09:11] <Madpilot> CrackersKeenan: .flac is the lossless, big format for music; .ogg is lossy like mp3
[09:11] <geneo93> flac is big
[09:12] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham - thanks for that... i didn't know that.  I also noticed sound recorder goes to ogg format.  so I can release my "spoken word" pieces on the web as oggs  ;)
[09:12] <Madpilot> adriyel_rakham: my install of Totem plays wmv perfectly; I don't seem to have any .wma files around, but I assume they work...
[09:12] <durt> moomooboy-grb: try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[09:12] <CrackersKeenan> madpilot: ok... I'll probably stick to oggs just cause they take up less space.  Does a typical mp3 player support oggs?
[09:12] <moomooboy-brb> i took a screenshot
[09:13] <moomooboy-brb> im gonna take a look @ it
[09:13] <adriyel_rakham> Madpilot, sweet. I just like Mplayer because it plays everything without installing libs and such
[09:13] <moomooboy-brb> if its the same in the pic
[09:13] <Madpilot> CrackersKeenan: no idea. I've heard that iRivers wil support .ogg, though
[09:13] <redguy> ogg isjust a container format, the sound codec is Vorbis
[09:13] <moomooboy-brb> then ill send it to one of you's :)
[09:13] <geneo93> CrackersKeenan:  what brand
[09:13] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, no it does not. Only a select few will
[09:13] <CrackersKeenan> everyone:  thanks.  I don't actually have an mp3 player yet but will be looking in the next few months.
[09:13] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, your largest audience in that respect will be the iPod, which does NOT support ogg atm
[09:13] <adriyel_rakham> iRiver support I believe is there
[09:14] <durt> has anybody ever purchased one of those really cheap music players on ebay?
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> durt, no?
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> music player is a little vague to me
[09:14] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham: do you reckon it is just a matter of time until they do?
[09:14] <redguy> CrackersKeenan: buy one supporting vorbis then :-)
[09:14] <durt> like a nomad zen for 20 bucks
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> meh...
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> I'd like to
[09:14] <adriyel_rakham> but I won't take the risk
[09:15] <durt> thats what im worried about
[09:15] <durt> its tempting though
[09:15] <moomooboy-brb> errr the screenshot looks perfect :|
[09:15] <geneo93> i have a rio 800 and use rioutils
[09:15] <moomooboy-brb> sigh ill take a look @ that link now durt
[09:15] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, I reckon its a matter of time, and about fscking time until a lot of open source/free things get supported, it'll all come in time, if I were you I'd keep an eye on opensource/multimedia news if you want to keep updated on that
[09:15] <intelikey> quite a bot swarm out there....
[09:15] <CrackersKeenan> this forum is very cool.  Everyone knows heaps of stuff.
[09:15] <durt> send me your screenshot
[09:15] <Madpilot> geneo93: do the Rios support .ogg?
[09:16] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham:  will do
[09:16] <geneo93> no CrackersKeenan
[09:16] <moomooboy-brb> but the screenshot looks perfect in the pic..
[09:16] <moomooboy-brb> im checking this on my winxp comp
[09:16] <intelikey> i need to configure X  and  i haven't got a clue where to start...   ?
[09:16] <geneo93> Madpilot:  no
[09:16] <moomooboy-brb> all i can say is.. it looks pixelated..
[09:16] <CrackersKeenan> I'm gonna see if kino supports my video camera in terms of taking captures this afternoon.  This stuff was unthinkable in red hat 7  :)
[09:17] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> how do you create a shortcut!
[09:17] <redguy> moomooboy-brb: you need subpixel rendering
[09:17] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> I can't figure out how to create a desktop shortcut in this thing.
[09:17] <durt> is it at its hights resolution?
[09:17] <eob84> does anyone know where I can download a deb package for qflash?
[09:17] <HappyFool> Cry_ubuntu_livec: right click, 'Create Launcher' is one way
[09:17] <CrackersKeenan> geneo93:  "no" to what?
[09:17] <moomooboy-brb> yeh 1024x768 .. 14inch on my lcd should be able to support that..
[09:17] <moomooboy-brb> subpixel?
[09:18] <geneo93> oh just no oggs in rio
[09:18] <durt> go to fonts again moo
[09:18] <moomooboy-brb> yup and thenz?
[09:18] <durt> eob84, why not get the binary?
[09:19] <intelikey> help with X  ???
[09:19] <durt> select the subpixel smoothing choice or whatever moo
[09:19] <durt> intelikey: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:19] <moomooboy-brb> yep.. it didnt work lol
[09:19] <eob84> durt, I did
[09:20] <PurpleMotion> hey folks, i got bored here at my brothers house, and decided to put together that inu yasha desktop ive been on about lately.. well, here it is.. http://www.daede.com/InuYasha-Desktop/
[09:20] <redguy> intelikey: why do you need to configure X?
[09:20] <eob84> durt, but I was wondering if there was a install for it
[09:20] <moomooboy-brb> its as if the fonts arent together .. its broken and aint focused together
[09:20] <intelikey> durt  ty
[09:20] <durt> eob84, did you read the readme or the install file?
[09:21] <eob84> durt yea
[09:21] <durt> and it didnt install?
[09:21] <eob84> durt it works fine... I would just prefer a deb package... if I can't find one no big deal
[09:21] <durt> oh
[09:21] <redguy> PurpleMotion: too red for me I would get aggresive :-)
[09:22] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> and the ubuntu md5 utility is?
[09:22] <moomooboy-brb> does anyone else have this problem?
[09:22] <moomooboy-brb> ive installed ubuntu on my toshiba tecra
[09:22] <HappyFool> Cry_ubuntu_livec: md5sum on the command line
[09:22] <PurpleMotion> redguy, inu yasha is an aggressive fellow
[09:23] <durt> moomoo: wanna send me your screen?
[09:23] <CrackersKeenan> Those who run the Firestarter firewall:  what do you do about "serious events"?
[09:23] <moomooboy-brb> sure.. but when you load it up ..
[09:23] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> md5sum /path/filename?
[09:23] <moomooboy-brb> its looks perfect lol. i dont know why lol..
[09:23] <HappyFool> moomooboy-brb: have you looked at the 'FixVideoRes' page on the wiki?
[09:23] <PurpleMotion> ever notice the kdm session and shutdown menus fonts are garbled..
[09:23] <HappyFool> Cry_ubuntu_livec: yeah; you can also specify a checksum file to check against
[09:23] <moomooboy-brb> ill take a look @ that now happy
[09:23] <redguy> moomooboy-brb: try restarting X after enabling that subpixel-something
[09:24] <HappyFool> !resolution
[09:24] <ubotu> it has been said that resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:24] <geneo93> CrackersKeenan:  its prolly your isp pinging you
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> !start a wm war
[09:24] <ubotu> No idea, PurpleMotion
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> grrr
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> !start a distro war
[09:24] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: Wish i knew
[09:24] <redguy> !start a language war
[09:24] <ubotu> VB.Net is better than C#!
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> BLAH
[09:24] <PurpleMotion> someone cleaned the bot
[09:25] <PurpleMotion> !start an editor war
[09:25] <ubotu> gvim is better than xemacs
[09:25] <intelikey> errr  durt "Please enter the video card's bus identifier.    PCI:0:14:0 "  but  lspci says "0000:00:0e.0 VGA"   what should i enter ?
[09:25] <CrackersKeenan> hey I wonder if I have latex
[09:25] <geneo93> ubotu:  python is better
[09:25] <ubotu> geneo93: okay
[09:25] <redguy> e=14
[09:25] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> the same. yay!
[09:25] <PurpleMotion> !python
[09:25] <ubotu> python is, like, better
[09:25] <PurpleMotion> lol
[09:25] <durt> intelikey: no idea, iguess just hit enter
[09:25] <PurpleMotion> you just assigned 'better' as the factoid for pythin
[09:26] <xavatar> hi... did someone manage to make mythtv work ???
[09:26] <geneo93> ubotu:  twisted
[09:26] <ubotu> geneo93: No idea
[09:26] <PurpleMotion> err python
[09:26] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> ubotu: I like candy.
[09:26] <ubotu> Cry_ubuntu_livec: Are you on ritalin?
[09:26] <moomooboy-brb> oh another problem lol.. when i click restart with ubuntu.. my laptop goes to a black screen and doesnt restart lol
[09:26] <xavatar> Not compiled with any useable video output method.
[09:26] <xavatar> it says ...
[09:26] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell geneo93 about bot-abuse
[09:26] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> ubotu: I used to be, but now I'm just...what was I saying?
[09:26] <ubotu> Cry_ubuntu_livec: Are you on ritalin?
[09:27] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, tell geneo93 about botabuse
[09:27] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, forget python
[09:27] <Cry_ubuntu_livec> okay, rebooting, and installing. see ya.
[09:27] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: i forgot python
[09:27] <CrackersKeenan> ubotu are you female?  care for a date tonight?
[09:27] <ubotu> CrackersKeenan: Are you smoking crack?
[09:27] <geneo93> anyone that use vb.net should have metal exame
[09:27] <CrackersKeenan> lmao
[09:28] <CrackersKeenan> that was awfully quick
[09:28] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, python is an easy-to-learn yet powerful programming language! http://www.python.org/
[09:28] <ubotu> okay, PurpleMotion
[09:28] <jtan325> python is sweet
[09:28] <rumo> was/is there a attack on this channel?
[09:28] <geneo93> and twisted is an extention of python
[09:28] <CrackersKeenan> is python like perl?
[09:28] <adriyel_rakham> rumo, a bot attack or something
[09:28] <jtan325> like any code - half its lines = python equivalent
[09:29] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, in its purpose yes, Perl and Python differ in many ways though, besides syntax
[09:29] <redguy> spambots perhaps
[09:29] <geneo93> perl anit even close to python
[09:29] <PurpleMotion> eh
[09:29] <redguy> hah
[09:29] <PurpleMotion> perl's pretty powerful
[09:29] <redguy> really geneo93 ?
[09:29] <adriyel_rakham> I prefer python, but perl is still very nice
[09:29] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham: thanks.  By the way, that ubotu *is* a bot, right?  did you see the smackdown it gave me above?
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> CrackersKeenan, it's a bot
[09:30] <redguy> ubotu is a liar
[09:30] <ubotu> redguy: Wish i knew
[09:30] <PurpleMotion> CrackersKeenan, pretty entertaining bot, at that
[09:30] <CrackersKeenan> purplemotion:  see what it did when I propositioned it?  It didn't miss a beat lol
[09:30] <durt> c is the best language
[09:30] <CrackersKeenan> durt: you're right but it sucks at strings
[09:30] <geneo93> ubotu:  needs a fix of morphine
[09:30] <ubotu> geneo93: I give up, what is it?
[09:31] <ompaul> !ubotu
[09:31] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> CrackersKeenan, it also does that if you mispell a factoid trigger
[09:31] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, Ubotu is a bot, but not a spambot like what we got earlier
[09:31] <CrackersKeenan> ubotu: you make me hot
[09:31] <ubotu> CrackersKeenan: I don't know
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, what is a bot?
[09:31] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: I think you lost me on that one
[09:31] <CrackersKeenan> lol ok
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> ubotu, ask me if im smoking crack
[09:31] <ubotu> PurpleMotion: Syntax error in line 1
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> etc
[09:31] <ompaul> hahah
[09:31] <adriyel_rakham> oh mah gosh...how long did it take you guys to figure that out?
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> he's fun
[09:31] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham:  we got a spambot??
[09:31] <adriyel_rakham> ubotu, whois PurpleMotion
[09:31] <ubotu> adriyel_rakham: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:31] <PurpleMotion> but dont talk to him too much in the channel
[09:31] <geneo93> ubotu:  gimme money
[09:31] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, geneo93
[09:32] <PurpleMotion> some people get anal about it
[09:32] <adriyel_rakham> CrackersKeenan, many spam bots, earlier, why?
[09:32] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[09:32] <ubotu> hmm... msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please.
[09:32] <durt> who takes anal?
[09:32] <CrackersKeenan> adriyel_rakham: i just never noticed.  Were they offering fake degrees?  Generic viagra?  penis enlargement?
[09:32] <adriyel_rakham> predictable humans...
[09:32] <adriyel_rakham> I said spambot, not spam-bot
[09:32] <adriyel_rakham> they were trying to crash via flooding
[09:32] <Madpilot> PurpleMotion: ouch. Got me... ;) missed your comment before I posted...
[09:33] <adriyel_rakham> I think.
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> Madpilot, ;)
[09:33] <adriyel_rakham> I'm too tired, its like 3:30am
[09:33] <redguy> Madpilot++
[09:33] <ompaul> my guess is that there are abbout 15 ips if we went on a banning spree
[09:33] <geneo93> adriyel_rakham:  same time here
[09:33] <durt> shit it is 330
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> yeah it is
[09:33] <ompaul> na it is 8:30 here
[09:33] <PurpleMotion> im gonna go to bed
[09:33] <ompaul> :)
[09:34] <intelikey> what is DRI ?
[09:34] <PurpleMotion> direct rendering interface
[09:34] <flankk> infrastructure.
[09:34] <PurpleMotion> whatever
[09:34] <m0r0n> hi, I cant get apache2 started. /etc/init.d/apache2 start does nothing. apache2 has been installed by apt-get install. Any idea what the problem may be?
[09:34] <PurpleMotion> same deal
[09:35] <adriyel_rakham> DRI is a piss poor excuse for a video driver, thats what it is
[09:35] <PurpleMotion> it allows your programs to interact directly with the rendering layer of your video card
[09:35] <adriyel_rakham> flankk, my compliments exactly.
[09:35] <PurpleMotion> pffft
[09:35] <adriyel_rakham> PurpleMotion, we have OpenGL and DirectX for that, THANK YOU.
[09:35] <PurpleMotion> dri works wonderfully on my radeon 9250
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> did you just say directx?
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> why are you using Linux with an ATI card again?
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> you're fired
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> you lost me @ radeon.
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> and uhh, dri and opengl work lovely together
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> (you aren't familiar with cedega are you?)
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> yah yah yah
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> not all games have Linux installers/binaries.
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> it's not linux native, and i dont use it to make money, so i couldn't care less about it :D
[09:36] <PurpleMotion> not everyone plays games
[09:36] <adriyel_rakham> cedega-cvs.
[09:37] <geneo93> well i'm off
[09:37] <adriyel_rakham> PurpleMotion, if you want to see Linux gain a huge margin, games gotta work, and work elegantly
[09:37] <m0r0n> but everyone should play games :-)
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> i couldnt care less if it gains a huge margin
[09:37] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, then make some for us :D
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> I've been using it exclusively for years, and conclusively for a decade
[09:37] <PurpleMotion> that's good enough for me
[09:38] <DjKritical> Whats the command to stop the X server?
[09:38] <redguy> m0r0n: about your apache, anything usefull in /var/log/apache2/?
[09:38] <adriyel_rakham> flankk, I am talking about commercial/popular games
[09:38] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:38] <tweekken__> conclusively        nice
[09:38] <adriyel_rakham> wait, which reminds me
[09:38] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: Doesn't that restart it?
[09:38] <m0r0n> redguy, no entry in these files
[09:38] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: I want to stop it completely
[09:38] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, who gives about a friggin' margin..  use whatever works for you.  I hate enthusiast freaks.
[09:38] <adriyel_rakham> I need to install enemy territory on this.
[09:38] <intelikey> oh crap there is no listing that covers my monitor....   800x600 @ 56hz    any chance that a 640x480 @ 60hz will work ?
[09:38] <adriyel_rakham> flankk, this has little do with enthusiast freaks. This has to do with Linux doing anything but dying off
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, no, kdm/gdm restarts itself. hit ctrl-alt-f1, login as yourself, type "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" (or kdm, whatever), then type "killall -9 X"
[09:39] <redguy> m0r0n: what does /etc/init.d/apache2 start do exactly? what is 'nothing'?
[09:39] <rumo> adriyel_rakham, ok. my irc seemed to got attacked too :o\
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> err
[09:39] <nerdy2> not to mention that has nothing to do with gaining a huge margin,   sure it seems like that's all that's useful when you are 17,  but i haven't met anyone in a long time who gives a crap about computer games
[09:39] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, ugh.
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> sudo before each of those
[09:39] <adriyel_rakham> this has to do with the fact that over 3/4's of the users using Windows who are savvy enough to pick up Linux without many issues, and would be more likely to welcome a change, ARE GAMERS
[09:39] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, I think I know an OS that is dying off, and it's certainly not Linux.
[09:39] <adriyel_rakham> these same GAMERS, are the same people who tech support for mom&pop
[09:39] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: thanks!
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> linux is never going to die off
[09:39] <PurpleMotion> you must be 'one of those'
[09:39] <adriyel_rakham> lol.
[09:40] <m0r0n> redguy, I dont get a message after the statement
[09:40] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, anytime :) service with a smile
[09:40] <intelikey> hehhe ooops  sudo is not installed here....
[09:40] <m0r0n> and it is not running
[09:40] <adriyel_rakham> anything can die off, if it fails enough, Linux won't die off anytime soon, especially given the zealotry behind it
[09:40] <nerdy2> it has nothing to do with zealotry, i can get so much more done in linux
[09:40] <adriyel_rakham> however, it'll never get much farther than it has in the desktop market unless games gain more compatibility, speed, support, and performance
[09:40] <tweekken__> linux will not die but fragmentation  due to  too many silly distributions hurt a bit
[09:40] <adriyel_rakham> tweekken__, too late
[09:41] <adriyel_rakham> nerdy2, I can get more done in Linux too, whats why I use it
[09:41] <redguy> m0r0n: try invoke-rd.d apache2 restart
[09:41] <nerdy2> it works better, it has a more powerful command line, one can script it easily -- it's not going to die off because it's easier to do things
[09:41] <adriyel_rakham> but joe average joe doesn't give a shit, his computer just works
[09:41] <PurpleMotion> but as it's currently setup, the ones who DO switch over, 80% of the time, end up being the ones we want anyways... i know *I* sure as hell don't want to see a massive influx of cl00bies who just figured out how to get advent rising to play on linux.....
[09:41] <JDahl> why would linux die? what alternative would people who like linux for programming with gnu etc. use?
[09:41] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: It says that Gnome isn't running.. but it is?
[09:41] <ompaul> adriyel_rakham, when you buy a game send a mail (snail mail) to -the company secretary- as the title on the mail, then it has to get read at board level - reason - the law says that communication with -the secretary- is communication with the board - you may get the first one though - the mail should say - produce for my platform maybe include some of the wrapper or a picture of the box or something - and tell them that although you en
[09:41] <ompaul> joy games you want to place them on something other than * where * is a games platform
[09:41] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, did I say it won't die off?  I said use what works for you.  Everything will die after I release a port of hurd for my cerebellum.
[09:41] <adriyel_rakham> JDahl allow me to introduce you to the OTHER panacea of Unix derivatives...lol
[09:41] <nerdy2> so for the small part of the population who do game, and for the small part of those who won't dualboot,  you claim that winning them over or not will make or break linux?   not at all
[09:41] <adriyel_rakham> lol @ flankk
[09:41] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, is it okay if you get logged out of the box and back in?
[09:42] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: huh?
[09:42] <adriyel_rakham> small part of the population who do game? are you FUCKING delerious?
[09:42] <intelikey> ok now howto startx ?
[09:42] <nerdy2> adriyel_rakham: it seems less so than you
[09:42] <adriyel_rakham> besides the millions of gamers who do exist, as it is
[09:42] <adriyel_rakham> they populate a huge % of the windows desktop market
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, if so, ctrl-alt-f1, then login and "init 1" once logged into single user mode, type "init 2"
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> that'll restart it
[09:42] <ompaul> adriyel_rakham, start the pressure
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> oh wait
[09:42] <adriyel_rakham> what ARE you smoking? theres more to an OS than administration and programming
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> nvm
[09:42] <PurpleMotion> you just want it to die
[09:43] <nerdy2> adriyel_rakham: yes, there's also getting work done
[09:43] <PurpleMotion> dude
[09:43] <PurpleMotion> seriously
[09:43] <adriyel_rakham> nerdy2, yes there is
[09:43] <PurpleMotion> who gives a shit
[09:43] <adriyel_rakham> thats why nvidia-glx has improved over the past few months significantly
[09:43] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: I'm trying to manually install the newest nvidia drivers.. and it says that I have to stop the x server
[09:43] <nerdy2> adriyel_rakham: for example, data entry, word processing whatever ...   every time i use microsoft word it craps out on me 5 times before i can do anything
[09:43] <PurpleMotion> i dont care if one more person ever gets 'converted' to linux.. *I* use it
[09:43] <adriyel_rakham> nerdy2, that isn't the case with the average user
[09:43] <intelikey> what is the normal command to start the x window system in ubuntu ?
[09:43] <nerdy2> adriyel_rakham: what?   i doubt that
[09:43] <adriyel_rakham> I contract out work for various small businesses, and word just works fine
[09:44] <durt> DJkritical, what's wrong with using nvidia-glx?
[09:44] <adriyel_rakham> not all M$ software is constantly buggy, just a margin of the time :)
[09:44] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, yeah, ctrl-alt-backspace, THEN ctrl-alt-f1 (once the screen comes up), then login as you, then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[09:44] <JDahl> adriyel_rakham, also for linux to "die off". there would have to be someone/something to steal the linux userbase... There may not be many linux users, but why should there be? and we're not going anywhere
[09:44] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, what's your point?  I only find Windows usefull as a gaming environment, is that impressive?
[09:44] <PurpleMotion> intelikey, /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:44] <hondje> hoest ompaul
[09:44] <adriyel_rakham> JDahl, by die off, I mean this, imagine for a moment, that Linux doesn't get much more of the desktop market
[09:45] <JDahl> which is bad?
[09:45] <adriyel_rakham> Mac is moving into x86 space, this is going to apply more pressure
[09:45] <PurpleMotion> adriyel_rakham, no it wont.
[09:45] <adriyel_rakham> JDahl which means a more niched user base, decreasing lifetime
[09:45] <PurpleMotion> adriyel_rakham, you have no idea what you're talking about
[09:45] <intelikey> no such file PurpleMotion .
[09:45] <adriyel_rakham> am I finished Purple?
[09:45] <flankk> Mac is switching to the x86 chipset, OS X is not switching to x86..
[09:45] <adriyel_rakham> No, shut the hell up.
[09:45] <JDahl> adriyel_rakham, the success of something like linux will never be measured by % of world domination
[09:45] <adriyel_rakham> flankk, os X *has* an x86 version, what ARE you talking about?
[09:45] <hondje> Some people value their Freedom too much to use OS X
[09:46] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: OKAY
[09:46] <DjKritical> okay rather
[09:46] <DjKritical> :D
[09:46] <adriyel_rakham> JDahl, I won't want Linux to have 95% market share, I want to it have a healthy slice of pie in everything, and for things to just work more frequently
[09:46] <PurpleMotion> adriyel_rakham, MAC-OS, though it will be working on x86 architecture, will ONLY run on Apple hardware. There will be absolutely NO stress from Apple's move into x86 architecture on either the Windows or *nix fronts
[09:46] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, if you're talking about the cheap hacks in the OSx86 project, then you have no point.
[09:46] <PurpleMotion> you have no clue
[09:46] <hondje> cheap hacks as in 'designed that way by Apple'?
[09:46] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, OS X is not, and will never be for mainstream PCs, only Apple computers, always.
[09:46] <JDahl> adriyel_rakham, do you see linux development decreasing? if no, why do we need you to convert your mom, dad, dog and uncle to linux?
[09:47] <adriyel_rakham> flankk...I can't even comment on that, Mac has already said they're using the existing OS X x86
[09:47] <PurpleMotion> yeah, that's not even close to a release candidate
[09:47] <adriyel_rakham> flankk, oh, you're referring to the DRM
[09:47] <hondje> Careful with the absolutes. I remember hearing Apple would never go to x86
[09:47] <adriyel_rakham> hahahaha, that'll get cracked
[09:47] <adriyel_rakham> Apple will go x86, just not "officially"
[09:47] <PurpleMotion> please tell me your mouth doesnt really work that far ahead of your brain
[09:47] <PurpleMotion> that'll get cracked
[09:48] <adriyel_rakham> yes, the DRM that will likely be in the Mactel chipsets
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> and microsoft will feel stress from someone's illegal advancement in os technology
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> my god you're an idiot
[09:48] <flankk> adriyel_rakham, omg.. it already is official; Apple is switching to x86 processors.  OS X won't ever be optimized for PC users, does this make sense?
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> someone please squelch this guy
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> seveas
[09:48] <PurpleMotion> anyone
[09:48] <redguy> #ubuntu-offtopic anyone?
[09:48] <nerdy2> we just shouldn't feed the trolls
[09:48] <adriyel_rakham> not that anyone has been seen asking for support
[09:48] <adriyel_rakham> lately.
[09:48] <hondje> nerdy2: But then we'd starve :(
[09:48] <adriyel_rakham> any takers?
[09:48] <flankk> That's where it ends.
[09:48] <redguy> maybe they are intimidated?
[09:49] <adriyel_rakham> lol.
[09:49] <adriyel_rakham> flaming back and forth is pointless.
[09:49] <adriyel_rakham> noone gets convinced of anything, and minds get closed shut
[09:49] <PurpleMotion> especially when im right
[09:49] <PurpleMotion> there's an old saying, bro
[09:49] <adriyel_rakham> riiight (arrogant fsck)
[09:49] <DjKritical> what is the apt-get package name for the kernal source tree?
[09:50] <PurpleMotion> it's far better to be thought a fool and remain silent, than to open your mouth (or in your case move your fingers) and remove all doubt...
[09:50] <adriyel_rakham> wow, well then I'm right too laa-dee-dah.
[09:50] <moomooboy-brb> anyone here run UBUNTU on a CENTRINO ?
[09:50] <m0r0n> yes
[09:50] <hondje> moomooboy-brb: yes
[09:50] <adriyel_rakham> you mean an intel laptop?
[09:50] <PurpleMotion> moomooboy-brb, heard it runs quite lovely
[09:50] <adriyel_rakham> lol.
[09:50] <HappyFool> DjKritical: linux-source-2.6.10, i think
[09:50] <adriyel_rakham> any issues with it moomooboy-brb ? got more reasons for me to stay with AMD? lol
[09:50] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, you dont need the sources
[09:50] <moomooboy-brb> lol
[09:50] <moomooboy-brb> nahh its fine
[09:51] <moomooboy-brb> its just that .. i wanan know if you guys  know
[09:51] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, you need the package "linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386"
[09:51] <HappyFool> DjKritical: you may also wish to read the releveant wiki pages
[09:51] <moomooboy-brb> any programs like CEntrino HArdware Controller but for linux
[09:51] <moomooboy-brb> i wanan get more battery life from my laptop ^^.. thats all
[09:51] <enchanter> anybody know how to join the wiki?
[09:51] <namElEz> CAn CD-RW disc cause problems if Ubuntu is installing from it?
[09:51] <DjKritical> oh my god... so much trouble over installing my nvidia drivers! I'm going to go have a good cry now.
[09:51] <deFrysk> DjKritical, got the nvidiadriver to work ?
[09:51] <flankk> moomooboy-brb, ACPI is all you need then..
[09:51] <enchanter> I hope to join the laptoptesting to report something/
[09:51] <moomooboy-brb> ACPI?
[09:51] <DjKritical> deFrysk: you're back! no I didn't!
[09:51] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, you're almost to the end of it, and it's really not so bad.. stick with it
[09:52] <deFrysk> DjKritical, very strange
[09:52] <enchanter> ACPI does not work well on my computer
[09:52] <deFrysk> is it an "old " card ?
[09:52] <namElEz> Can CD-RW disc cause the I/O errors?
[09:52] <enchanter> it does not support suspend
[09:52] <adriyel_rakham> can anyone help mahs with an enlightenment related question?
[09:52] <PurpleMotion> enchanter, one of those 300-way open ended standards
[09:52] <DjKritical> deFrysk: someone in the #nvidia channel suggested I try remove the nvidia pakaged drivers and install the newest ones manually
[09:52] <PurpleMotion> enchanter, everyone took their own interpretation of it and ran with it
[09:52] <deFrysk> DjKritical, its a thought
[09:52] <DjKritical> deFrysk: thats what I'm up to now... but I'm not having much luck....
[09:52] <HappyFool> enchanter: does the 'create an account' link here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserPreferences not work ?
[09:53] <enchanter> HappyFool, I have got it
[09:53] <DjKritical> deFrysk: I just got a massive error message saying "This nvidia installer need your linux source tree to install"
[09:53] <deFrysk> DjKritical, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[09:53] <redguy> namElEz: maybe the iso was corrupt? maybe you burned the disc too fast?
[09:53] <enchanter> Hackmo, But it said I need to copy something to the subpabe to it. I don't know how to do it
[09:53] <fek> moin
[09:54] <flankk> DjKritical, open Synaptic and install the kernel source tree then..
[09:54] <deFrysk> DjKritical, manual install manual
[09:54] <namElEz> i downloaded iso with getright and burned with 4x (max speed for cd)
[09:54] <hondje> DjKritical: Open a terminal, and run 'sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10'
[09:54] <enchanter> That is from the offical site "Copy data from LaptopTestingTeam/Template into a new subpage of LaptopTestingTeam named after your make and model."
[09:54] <DjKritical> hondje: thats better than flankk's advice :P
[09:54] <enchanter> How could I create the subpage there?
[09:54] <PurpleMotion> DjKritical, seriously... "apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 linux-source-2.6.10
[09:54] <hondje> DjKritical: It's actually the same advice :) More than one way to grandma's house
[09:54] <DjKritical> can't run synaptic without x windoiws! lol
[09:55] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: okay
[09:55] <hondje> touche
[09:55] <DjKritical> PurpleMotion: are you sure thats the right version?
[09:55] <PurpleMotion> should be
[09:55] <PurpleMotion> type
[09:55] <PurpleMotion> uname -a
[09:55] <DjKritical> ok
[09:55] <flankk> DjKritical, er.. you could do a search for "linux-source" and find the one to your related kernel, "uname -r".. ugh.
[09:55] <maradong> Hi all :)
[09:55] <PurpleMotion> should be 2.6.10-5-386
[09:55] <DjKritical> yeppers
[09:55] <PurpleMotion> cool
[09:55] <PurpleMotion> then all is well
[09:55] <intelikey> i'd like to ask a few questions.      1.  is this channel always like this ?     2.  would someone help me get X up and running     3.   is there a users guide to this os, or is it just the general linux howto's ?     4.  any chance of getting an answer to all of the privious questions ?   :)
[09:56] <PurpleMotion> what the driver _really_ needs is the headers
[09:56] <namElEz> what other linux distribution is good and fits on 1-3cds?
[09:56] <DjKritical> now I just have to copy out that awesome line of code =)
[09:56] <slibs> hi
[09:56] <hondje> intelikey: yes, yes, yes, yes
[09:56] <namElEz> intelikey try the forums
[09:56] <PurpleMotion> namElEz, knoppix is nice.. 1 live cd
[09:56] <maradong> I have just updated successfully from Hoary to Breezy and got two "small" problems.
[09:56] <Madpilot> intelikey: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:56] <namElEz> no live stuff
[09:56] <maradong> Is it for instance possible, that in Breezy the package glxgears has vanished?
[09:56] <PurpleMotion> namElEz, debian, slackware, fedora core
[09:57] <PurpleMotion> namElEz, knoppix hd-installs
[09:57] <flankk> DjKritical, and "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.10-5 linux-source-2.6.10-5", happy?
[09:57] <slibs> whats the 1280x1024 resolution number in grub if vga=792 is 1024x768?
[09:57] <adriyel_rakham> gentoo
[09:57] <hondje> intelikey: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good place for getting started
[09:57] <intelikey> ok i got the link. Madpilot ty.
[09:57] <DjKritical> It's downloading the 44 meg of packages now
[09:57] <PurpleMotion> slibs great question, m8
[09:57] <flankk> DjKritical, don't forget the headers, that's all you need.
[09:57] <PurpleMotion> when you find out, let me know ;)
[09:57] <namElEz> FC is 5 discs lol no way
[09:57] <DjKritical> flankk: I did both :D
[09:58] <redguy> slibs: you expect that people here remember such things? why not ask google?
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> guarantee 3 of those cd's are 150% optional shit
[09:58] <DjKritical> be back shortly with more problems =)(
[09:58] <maradong> I for my part at least have not been able to put my hands on glxgears. Google'ing on that particular topic didn't bring me any relevant information either.
[09:58] <PurpleMotion> ubuntu is the best though
[09:58] <topyli> maradong: in hoary it's in xbase-clients
[09:58] <slibs> redguy: yes, since someone told me in here last time, but i forgot it
[09:58] <intelikey> hondje were you violenteering to help ?
[09:58] <hondje> intelikey: indeedy
[09:59] <maradong> topyli I've got xbase-clients installed. No glxgears though
[09:59] <flankk> PurpleMotion, last time I installed custom FC4, it asked me for CD1 only :|
[09:59] <topyli> hmm
[09:59] <PurpleMotion> exactly
[09:59] <PurpleMotion> but it doesnt matter
[09:59] <PurpleMotion> rpm is junk
[09:59] <intelikey> ok hondje i had to install server (small hd)  but now i am trying to get X running
[09:59] <maradong> topyli, "apt-cache search gears" doesn't report anything interesting either
[09:59] <slibs> has anyone got gimpshop run in hoary?
[09:59] <hondje> intelikey: okay, do you have all the packages installed that you need?
[09:59] <tweekken__> I had a few nightmares with rpms in the past
[09:59] <intelikey> hondje i think everything needed is installed.
[09:59] <redguy> slibs: this is not a grub setting by the way but a kernel parameter, try asking google for resolution linux vesafb
[10:00] <PurpleMotion> wtf is gimpshop
[10:00] <flankk> maradong, 'which glxgears'
[10:00] <slibs> redguy: okay
[10:00] <moomooboy> sorry about that Flankk my cable modem dc..
[10:00] <PurpleMotion> !find gimpshop
[10:00] <moomooboy> anyway you were saying about ACPI?
[10:00] <intelikey> hondje i configured X  but now how do i start it ?
[10:00] <slibs> PurpleMotion: gimp with a layout and keyshortcuts of photoshop
[10:00] <cloudr> hello, my sources.list are a mess now. Can somebody share with me a good sources.list?
[10:00] <flankk> moomooboy, I was saying DAGS
[10:00] <moomooboy> dags
[10:00] <PurpleMotion> slibs, someone should do that for fireworks
[10:00] <maradong> flankk, it isn't installed. that's why "which glxgears" doesn't return anything
[10:01] <hondje> intelikey: two ways...one with 'startx', the other by installing gdm (sudo apt-get install gdm)
[10:01] <flankk> maradong, try as root
[10:01] <maradong> nothing either
[10:01] <intelikey> neither command exist hondje
[10:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'gimpshop' returned no results.
[10:01] <flankk> maradong, mine's in '/usr/bin/X11'
[10:01] <intelikey> what is not installed hondje  ?
[10:01] <hondje> intelikey: do you want a graphical login screen for X?
[10:02] <ashley3452> hi
[10:02] <cloudr> hi
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> hi
[10:02] <intelikey> hondje no
[10:02] <maradong> flankk, "ls /usr/bin/X11/ | grep gear" gives me nothing
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> intelikey, then youw ant to type "startx"
[10:02] <maradong> neither does "ls /usr/bin/ | grep gear"
[10:02] <hondje> intelikey: okay...you have your window manager installed?
[10:02] <intelikey> hondje i have very little space left
[10:02] <ashley3452> just a quick question : does anyone know how to forward audio along with X on ssh ?
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> then youw ant to run fluxbox
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> or xfce4
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> or blackbox
[10:02] <intelikey> hondje like xfce ?
[10:02] <PurpleMotion> all very very small
[10:02] <maradong> flankk, I've updated to Breezy just yesterday. I don't know whether you read the line of me claiming that ;-)
[10:03] <cloudr> no idea. and nobody seems to have sources.list either
[10:03] <hondje> ashley3452: MAS looks cool, but it's still in beta
[10:03] <redguy> ashley3452: NAS perhaps?
[10:03] <hondje> intelikey: yep, that'll work...try startxfce4
[10:03] <flankk> maradong, ah, you're on your own there.
[10:03] <ashley3452> ill check them out, thx
[10:03] <PurpleMotion> nerd
[10:03] <hondje> :(
[10:03] <PurpleMotion> hondje see my new desktop?
[10:03] <hondje> No, link me :)
[10:03] <PurpleMotion> im a nerd too its okay
[10:04] <PurpleMotion> hondje, http://www.daede.com/InuYasha-Desktop/ (it's red on purpose)
[10:04] <cloudr> can somebody paste a working sources.list for hoary?
[10:04] <maradong> flankk, I know ;-) and I know what I am doing. I mean. I have been using Linux since Debian Slink.
[10:04] <PurpleMotion> wow slink
[10:04] <PurpleMotion> heh
[10:04] <maradong> flankk, basically all this is just to go for sure that there is no such package, so that I can file it
[10:04] <HappyFool> !tell cloudr about sources
[10:04] <maradong> PurpleMotion, hm?
[10:04] <m0r0n> redguy, I have removed / deleted all files related to apache2 and reinstalled apache 2. Not it is started, but getting the message "Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName"
[10:05] <m0r0n> I mean now
[10:05] <flankk> maradong, then fork the package from slink and be off :|
[10:05] <cloudr> HappyFool: thanks a lot
[10:05] <hondje> PurpleMotion: looks nice :)
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> m0r0n, that's right
[10:05] <maradong> PurpleMotion, well, at that time I was like 10 or something, and not really into computers at all ;-)
[10:05] <maradong> flankk, ;-)
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> maradong, right on
[10:05] <HappyFool> cloudr: np
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> hondje, tyvm
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> im going to bed folks
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> peace
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> love
[10:05] <maradong> PurpleMotion, I wonder whether there is still anybody around who has been using SLS. That aside ;-)
[10:05] <PurpleMotion> and chicken grease
[10:05] <golfi> hello, I'm an ubuntu newbie and I cannot get my laptop keyboard working, only external USB keyboard. I'm using a packard bell laptop. Is there any way to update or whatever to get the keyboard working in ubuntu?
[10:06] <hondje> later PurpleMotion
[10:06] <PurpleMotion> heh
[10:06] <redguy> m0r0n: you positive that it's not running? what does `ps -A | grep apache` say?
[10:06] <PurpleMotion> l8r
[10:06] <maradong> PurpleMotion, cya
[10:06] <hondje> Packard Bell? I thought they died and got bought by NEC years ago :o
[10:06] <golfi> hondje, it's nearly 3 years old but still doing the job.. except for the keyboard :)
[10:07] <m0r0n> redguy, it's running: 15275 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[10:07] <Determinist> good morning guys
[10:07] <hondje> I was thinking like 10 years ago...but I cant' help you, so I'll stop boggling that PB is still around
[10:07] <redguy> tried http://localhost in the browser?
[10:07] <redguy> m0r0n: ^^
[10:08] <DjKritical> okay it worked! (nvidia problem)
[10:08] <DjKritical> now to reconfigre x
[10:08] <deFrysk> DjKritical, manual install did the trick ?
[10:08] <hondje> hehe, now that X is up he can read the manual install wiki thing I wrote
[10:08] <DjKritical> well.. I'm about to find out
[10:08] <m0r0n> yes, the apache placeholder site is loaded, still wondering why it cant determine the domain name
[10:08] <intelikey> hondje "apt-cache search xfce" comes up empty ?   i'm new to apt,  that is the correct command isn't it ?
[10:08] <DjKritical> I'm rebooting now
[10:08] <slibs> DjKritical: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:09] <ashley3452> bah there must be an easier way to tell remote machine to send app audio to me ?
[10:09] <DjKritical> slibs: I went in manually and did it
[10:09] <flankk> intelikey, 'apt-cache search xfce4'
[10:09] <Determinist> Seveas, if i dont use printing on this system, would it be safe to remove cupsys-* ?
[10:09] <hondje> intelikey: it's in Universe, do you ahve the repository enabled?
[10:09] <DjKritical> slibs: ph33r my l33t vi skillz!
[10:09] <flankk> intelikey, what hodje said too.
[10:09] <m0r0n> Is localhost not a FQDN? :-)
[10:09] <intelikey> blank ...
[10:10] <hondje> intelikey: okay, you need to enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <DjKritical> OH MY GOD... I THINK IT'S WORKING
[10:10] <intelikey> hondje yes ....but not src part of it ?
[10:10] <hondje> intelikey: should jsut require deleting two #'s from the lines with universe in them
[10:10] <redguy> m0r0n: localhost.localdomain might be... i think
[10:10] <hondje> intelikey: that's optional
[10:10] <slibs> DjKritical: oh no! what do we do!
[10:10] <intelikey> it is enabled already
[10:10] <hondje> intelikey: sudo apt-get update
[10:10] <redguy> m0r0n: or not?
[10:10] <flankk> hondje, not unless you will be compiling from source ;P
[10:11] <m0r0n> Ok, now I can do the job, I wanted to do 2 hours ago: configering web-dav for eclipse :-)
[10:11] <deFrysk> lol DjKritical
[10:11] <DjKritical> Whats a good way to test these nvidiadrivers?1
[10:11] <DjKritical> screensaver?
[10:11] <slibs> doom3
[10:11] <deFrysk> DjKritical, run glxgears
[10:11] <hondje> okay, sudo apt-get build-dep tons-of-stuff && sudo apt-get source -b more :)
[10:11] <flankk> DjKritical, Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc
[10:11] <maradong> I'll be back in a jiffy
[10:11] <flankk> lol
[10:11] <slibs> i get around 7300 fps in glxgears
[10:12] <flankk> slibs, what chipset?
[10:12] <deFrysk> slibs, average
[10:12] <DjKritical> glxgears gives me "segmentation fault"
[10:12] <spiral> hi
[10:12] <slibs> flankk: 6600 gt
[10:12] <hondje> I have a pci video card, I get like 3fps the second a bad guy shows up in doom3 :(
[10:12] <redguy> slibs, deFrysk: maximized??
[10:12] <slibs> maximized?
[10:12] <deFrysk> dito ?
[10:13] <hondje> deFrysk: did they put glxinfo in breezy?
[10:13] <DjKritical> glxgears gives me "segmentation fault" <-- ?
[10:13] <intelikey> ah no i only had "Hit http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/universe Packages"   fixing that now.
[10:13] <redguy> slibs: you get 7200 fps when the glxgears window is maximized?
[10:13] <hondje> I remember reading something about it on the devel list
[10:13] <slibs> no
[10:13] <deFrysk> hondje, nope
[10:13] <slibs> i haven't even thought of that
[10:14] <deFrysk> hondje, nvidia works fine though and love the new game njam
[10:14] <slibs> ~600 fps when maximized :/
[10:14] <hondje> !info njam
[10:14] <hondje> !breezy njam
[10:14] <ubotu> hondje: Are you on ritalin?
[10:14] <slibs> deFrysk: if im average whats the top score?
[10:15] <m0r0n> by the way, this is a great channel. It s allowed to ask questions that have little relation to Ubuntu :-)
[10:15] <hondje> no, but that's a good idea botboy
[10:15] <cloudr> where can I find a repository with gaim 1.5 ?
[10:15] <hondje> cloudr: backports
[10:15] <deFrysk> slibs, afaIk 12000 or something around that
[10:15] <Coyctecm> not wise to use backports...easily breaks the whole system
[10:15] <deFrysk> slibs, but not sure
[10:15] <cloudr> hondje: Are there more than one backports? I have backports but only 1.4 is available
[10:15] <hondje> cloudr: I dunno, I don't use them :)
[10:16] <slibs> deFrysk: do you have any idea of the card they'r using?
[10:16] <deFrysk> slibs, "fast" cards ?
[10:16] <slibs> yeah
[10:17] <deFrysk> generic branded
[10:17] <hondje> I have a .... nv5200?
[10:17] <cloudr> How do I turn off CPU frequency scaling? see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60262
[10:17] <hondje> it's PCI, so it's not very magical, but I only use it for bzflag and matlab
[10:17] <HappyFool> gah. how do I send a ^C using screen?
[10:17] <deFrysk> mine is FX-5200
[10:18] <cloudr> hondje: thanks, fair enough. You stick to firefox 1.02 and gaim 1.1??
[10:18] <hondje> Yes, they seem to work fine
[10:18] <tweekken__> I only have GAIM 1.1.4   likely due to  PPC
[10:18] <deFrysk> cloudr, firefox1.6 is in the usual updates of ubuntu afaIk
[10:18] <flankk> cloudr, 'cd /proc/acpi/processor' have a peek.
[10:18] <hondje> It's actually 1.06 though, couldn't patch the security stuff back without breaking everything
[10:18] <hondje> 10,000 bugs filed over that one :)
[10:19] <mrben> morning all
[10:19] <deFrysk> hondje, that makes is a swarm
[10:19] <cloudr> flankk: acpi id:1
[10:19] <hondje> hehe
[10:19] <flankk> cloudr, if it doesn't have any support, then disable ACPI completely, via grub.conf, or in the kernel.
[10:19] <cloudr> flankk: but I have a mere athlonXP2200
[10:19] <hondje> Seems I have gaim 1.1.4
[10:20] <tweekken__> I switched my Apple iBook to Ubuntu to be the full power out of it
[10:20] <cloudr> flankk: in grub I tried adding noacpi but I still got the same error on boot up
[10:20] <flankk> cloudr, it didn't work then.. check your syntax.
[10:20] <tweekken__> I now can run my epson  multifunction on my iBook using ubuntu when I could not on MacOSX
[10:20] <pirast> hi
[10:21] <pirast> yeah no spam
[10:21] <cloudr> deFrysk: not looking for firefox1.06 but for a repository with gaim 1.5 (the lastest for 2 weeks already)
[10:21] <pirast> it worked, thanks seveas
[10:21] <hondje> what's better about 1.5?
[10:21] <tweekken__> plus I can use my plextor usb2.0/firewire DVD burner on my iBook using ubuntu and cound NOT in MacOSX
[10:21] <tweekken__> therefore ubuntu rocks out loud
[10:22] <cloudr> flankk: what exactly I am looking for in proc/acpi/processor to find out if it supports ACPI?
[10:22] <deFrysk> cloudr, get the sourcerepo of breezy and rebuild gaim1.5 for hoary
[10:22] <pirast> in Gnome in Breezy I can't find "run application". What's up? Will this be added again?
[10:22] <tweekken__> not to mention MUCH better handing of USB devices
[10:22] <deFrysk> pirast, run app is in the add to feature in pannel (right klick panel)
[10:22] <cloudr> deFrysk: ok I will do that
[10:23] <tweekken__> I started to build GAIM but fell asleep due to GTK2 and my lameness
[10:23] <flankk> cloudr, 'cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info'
[10:23] <pirast> deFrysk: Can I add it to the Applications menu too?
[10:23] <moomooboy> does anyone know if theres a similar program like this one for linux "http://www.pbus-167.com"
[10:23] <deFrysk> pirast, not sure but guess not
[10:23] <pirast> hm :>
[10:23] <pirast> ok, thanks
[10:24] <cloudr> flankk: interesting i have no CPU0 but I have CPU1 and there it says processor id: 0 acpi id:1 busmastering: yes power manage. yes the rest no
[10:25] <deFrysk> pirast, you could also use Alt+F2
[10:25] <deFrysk> handy shortcut
[10:25] <cloudr> flankk: I modify menu.lst # kopt=root=/dev/hda5 ro adding noacpi and then do update-grub?
[10:25] <flankk> cloudr, then my suggestion is to check that the option is enabled in BIOS.  If you don't have any option, then what's so harsh about an message informing you that you don't have throttling?  You can disable that option in the kernel if you really want to get picky, and never see the message.
[10:26] <pirast> deFrysk: Thanks, that is really great :-)
[10:26] <deFrysk> pirast, ;)
[10:26] <moomooboy> anyone know any programs i could use to reduce the amount of voltages injected into my centrino cpu?
[10:26] <flankk> cloudr, yeah.. or just disable it completely, which I wouldn't do, since it's good to have when your board supports it.
[10:27] <tweekken__> moomooboy:  shutdown -h now  will reduce it to zero  likely
[10:27] <tweekken__> jk
[10:27] <tweekken__> :-)
[10:27] <cloudr> flankk: I don't want to see the error message and I don't want to break anything so what is the less invasive way?
[10:27] <flankk> cloudr, close your eyes until gdm displays..
[10:28] <moomooboy> -.- thanks for the help tweekken :P
[10:28] <cloudr> flankk: I will check my bios and and enable it there if if is disabled.
[10:28] <tweekken__> lol  sorry     just kinda  slap happy at this time
[10:28] <cloudr> flankk: that wouldnt' help because the STOP error is there after I log on and until I click OK on it
[10:28] <cloudr> flankk: the error message comes AFTER I log on to gdm
[10:29] <flankk> cloudr, okay, but just a little FYI: acpi throttling does nothing more than scale the CPU frequency _down_ to save power consumption.. you're probably not missing much.
[10:30] <moomooboy> i guess ill ask later tonight time for work
[10:30] <cloudr> flankk: Yeah, I am not too fuzzed about having acpi throttling on, just about Ubuntu giving me an error message because of that. It is not a crime if my CPU doesnt' support frequency scaling :-)
[10:30] <flankk> cloudr, I'd turn acpi off, research it if it'
[10:30] <flankk> cloudr, it's that important, and pop a few rids.
[10:31] <cloudr> flankk: pop a few rids?
[10:31] <slibs> cloudr: oh yes it is, your cpu is evil
[10:32] <cloudr> slibs: running Windows should get a big warning or stop message but my CPU, it isn't so bad! ;)
[10:32] <slibs> windows is evil too
[10:33] <jtan325> what's the easiest way to keep track of website statistics on a server on which you're not root?
[10:33] <cloudr> slibs: I agree with that
[10:33] <heatxsink_> hello all
[10:34] <flankk> jtan325, get root to give you permission to server log files..
[10:35] <jtan325> argh i'd probably do that, but i gotta get these statistics by tonight if possible
[10:38] <dynir> Hi.
[10:38] <flankk> Hullo dynir.
[10:38] <dynir> I'm checking out the Ubuntu live-cd.
[10:39] <dynir> First distribution I have found that didn't require me to fight to get wireless working.
[10:39] <dynir> Very nice.
[10:39] <jtan325> ubuntu's great
[10:39] <jtan325> i use it
[10:39] <jtan325> :-)
[10:40] <dynir> it uses the apt package system right?
[10:40] <crimsun_> yes
[10:42] <dynir> nice
[10:42] <slibs> haha
[10:42] <dynir> I think this is what I've been looking for.
[10:42] <slibs> steam on linux, this is madness
[10:42] <rox__> guys i need help, sometimes my avi's work and sometimes they dont
[10:42] <rox__> i dont understand it
[10:42] <nerdy2> do you have w32codecs installed?
[10:43] <rox__> it seems like a codec problem but i have them all installed and the same avi i opened earlier when i "fixed" the problem wont open now
[10:43] <rox__> i sure do nerdy
[10:43] <rox__> i got it from http://ubuntuguide/#codecs or something
[10:43] <nerdy2> what are you using to open them?  totem-xine?
[10:43] <rox__> totem, xine, vlc, mplayer
[10:43] <rox__> none of them work
[10:43] <rox__> but earlier when i "fixed" it they all worked
[10:43] <rox__> on this exact same file
[10:43] <dynir> cool.... now I can play HL on Linux :-)
[10:44] <ajd> howdy. whenever I boot from hard disk, ubuntu install cd, ubuntu live cd or windows install cd I get a grub loading error 17. As I don't have anything else I can boot from, I'm stuck lol.
[10:45] <dynir> ugh
[10:46] <HappyFool> ajd (from 'info grub') : 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[10:46] <HappyFool> ajd: you get grub errors on the live cd?
[10:46] <ajd> yeah
[10:46] <HappyFool> oh, what's probably happening is your computer is not set to boot from CD
[10:46] <ajd> i made sure to change it
[10:46] <rox__> can anyone help?
[10:47] <HappyFool> ajd: i think you need to make sure again ;)
[10:47] <ajd> I'll tell you the whole story :P...
[10:47] <aimaz> how do I close all xchat /msg windows?
[10:47] <HappyFool> a windows boot cd cannot possibly give a grub boot error
[10:48] <kargath64> damn spammers :9
[10:48] <kargath64> *:(
[10:48] <ajd> hmm :/
[10:48] <ajd> I definately changed it
[10:48] <ajd> about 50 times lol
[10:48] <cafuego> aimaz: /umode +CE
[10:49] <ajd> i installed ubuntu and it was fine but then my nooby dad decided to try to set up a partition and he did something or other then got halfway through the ubuntu install again for some reason then cancelled it
[10:49] <ajd> and now it's all dodgy
[10:49] <ajd> lol
[10:49] <kargath64> hey
[10:50] <kargath64> now that i actually managed to get in ... :)
[10:50] <ajd> I tried booting from my windows setup floppy as well and it did the same thing
[10:50] <kargath64> does ubuntu support .rpm installers as well as debian installers?
[10:51] <HappyFool> ajd: i think your first step is to make compeletely sure you're booting from CD; grub should be installed to your hard-drive, and should only be accessed if you're booting from there
[10:51] <cafuego> kargath64: no. You should convert them using alien.
[10:51] <ajd> I'm sure I was but I'll try again
[10:51] <ajd> thanks :)
[10:51] <HappyFool> kargath64: there's something called alien, which may help; what rpm do you want to install
[10:51] <HappyFool> !alien
[10:51] <ubotu> I heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[10:51] <kargath64> oooh
[10:51] <kargath64> thanks
[10:51] <ajd> might bbl :P
[10:51] <rox__> has anyone else here had sporadic avi activity?
[10:51] <HappyFool> ajd: try unplugging the hard-drive (assuming you're up to case-opening)
[10:52] <HappyFool> kargath64: alien should be installable using apt (or might be installed already)
[10:52] <kargath64> ah ok
[10:52] <topyli> kargath64: it should be installed by default
[10:53] <kargath64> it's just i have access to faster internet on a fedora machine at another location
[10:53] <kargath64> more time-efficient to get stuff there
[10:53] <kargath64> in some ways
[10:53] <samson_man> hey guys, having a problem with wifi, it won't work after the laptop sleeps/hibernates and I log in again. I seem to recall this is a common problem, but haven't found much with searches. any suggestions?
[10:53] <kargath64> also, another q
[10:53] <HappyFool> kargath64: i think alien is supposed to be a last resort
[10:53] <cloudr> cpufreq-applet is starting on start up and giving and error yet I see no such applet on the desktop. How can I find it and remove it?
[10:54] <kargath64> HappyFool: i'll keep that in mind
[10:54] <kargath64> my second q is to do with apt-get
[10:54] <kargath64> is there any way to keep the packages you download so you can burn them to cd?
[10:55] <AzMoo> Hi guys, I'm trying to mount a network share from my windows box, and it's telling me it can't because of a bad superblock ... How come?
[10:56] <AzMoo> 'sudo mount -t smbfs -o user=matt //azmoo/downloads mnt/azmoo-downloads' is the command I'm using.
[10:56] <HappyFool> kargath64: downloaded debs are put in /var/cache/apt/archives -- you can probably use that.
[10:56] <kargath64> cool
[10:57] <HappyFool> cloudr: look in System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup programs -- is the applet maybe there?
[10:58] <cloudr> HappyFool: Is not there but Sessions -> Current Session and it is listed there
[10:58] <kargath64> so i can just burn those to CD and then if i have to to re-install, i can just go to the cd instead of apt?
[10:58] <HappyFool> cloudr: i'm afraid i'm not too familiar with this, but try selecting and removing it
[10:59] <cloudr> HappyFool: thanks
[10:59] <HappyFool> kargath64: apt needs a particular repository setup; i'm not sure how easy that is to reproduce (possibly not too hard, but i don't know)
[10:59] <kargath64> damn
[10:59] <kargath64> just i have 56k
[10:59] <kargath64> and to have to re-download everything would suck
[10:59] <HappyFool> kargath64: me too ;)
[11:00] <topyli> kargath64: read "how to use apt locally" from the apt howto. it's not hard at all
[11:00] <kargath64> man apt?
[11:00] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get
[11:00] <kargath64> man apt-get then?
[11:00] <topyli> kargath64: the apt howto
[11:00] <cafuego> ugh
[11:00] <HappyFool> the apt-howto is a package you can (and should) install
[11:01] <kargath64> yeah
[11:01] <Bergcube> There is an example of a working sources.list for apt at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/sample/sources.list_extrarepositories
[11:01] <PDani> bey
[11:01] <kargath64> i'm still a n00b to all this linux stuff
[11:01] <cloudr> Anybody can help me with a glitch on sound? Trouble is the volume control doesn't work it is always on, BUT if I right-click and then click open volume control then I can control it from there.
[11:03] <m0r0n> Hm, my php scripts are still offered for download. I ve installed php4 libapache2-mod-php4 php4-cli and added the lines "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" and "AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps" to apache2-conf. I only get phpinfo() from the commandline. This is not my day
[11:04] <Determinist> FFS, flash is slowing my machine down so bad :/
[11:05] <Determinist> anyone else having problems with the FF flash plugin?
[11:05] <m0r0n> dont use it
[11:05] <m0r0n> Get rid of flash and be happy
[11:05] <HappyFool> m0r0n: i used the LAMP page on the wiki and everything Just Worked
[11:06] <HappyFool> !lamp
[11:06] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:06] <kargath64> !alien
[11:06] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:06] <kargath64> !apt-get
[11:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[11:09] <m0r0n> HappyFool, not for me
[11:10] <kargath64> cya ppl
[11:10] <kargath64> thanks for the help
[11:10] <kargath64> :)
[11:17] <Bergcube> Question: How do I keep my /home/MyUserName/ directory safe and intact?  This in connection with 1.) Reinstalling the entire OS on the same machine, or 2.) installing Ubuntu on a completely different machine, but wanting to keep my stuff.  I am not depending on keeping it on disk in (1.).  I can easilly copy it to a network server and get it back from there later.  But that spawns 1b.)  Should I copy / keep the /entire/ directory, or ju
[11:17] <Bergcube> st parts (what parts?) of it?  Apologies in advance for the high newbie-factor!  :-)
[11:19] <heatxsink> hello anyone else in here have a Latitude D810?
[11:20] <intelikey> command to list installed packages ?
[11:20] <crimsun_> dpkg -l
[11:20] <intelikey> ty
[11:22] <slibs> i have downloaded hl2 from valve now something like 30min, if i close it can it continue the downloading when i open it up again?, i know it can do it in windows but how 'bout linux, will cedega be able to do that?
[11:22] <iapx8088> what's going onm?
[11:23] <HappyFool> Bergcube: i think backing up /home/YourUserName ought to be ok
[11:23] <Frafra> hi all
[11:23] <HappyFool> Bergcube: some people put /home on a separate partition
[11:23] <slibs> hmm
[11:23] <Bergcube> HappyFool~ I've done that.  (Separate partition.)
[11:24] <slibs> is it worth of it?
[11:24] <Frafra> i must download the java package and save it in a usbdrive, because i should install the java package in a pc with no internet connection. what i must do?
[11:25] <HappyFool> Frafra: i'd read the java page one the wiki; it tells you what to do. You can download the required debs to the usb drive and install them with 'dpkg -i'
[11:25] <barongas> frafra: apt-get -d install <package>
[11:25] <HappyFool> !java
[11:25] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:25] <Bergcube> HappyFool~ But I'm wondering...  Several apps have made themselves hidden directories in my hone-dir.  Will these MUNG the new system, or actually help me get it as I'm used to?
[11:25] <barongas> frafra: Should download the package without installing it
[11:25] <Frafra> ok, thanks
[11:25] <Seveas> Frafra, you can download a java deb from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:25] <HappyFool> Bergcube: i'm not sure; i think it depends on the app
[11:26] <Frafra> ah, ok, thx Seveas
[11:26] <bina> just got redirected to #ubuntu-unregged or something
[11:26] <heatxsink>  I have a SATA dvd drive and hard drive and I'm trying to play a DVD in the drive, I cannot even turn on DMA because I get this error...  http://pastebin.com/347531
[11:26] <HrdwrBoB> bina: yes, bot attack
[11:27] <Bergcube> HappyFool~ Then it sounds somewhat risky to backup the /entire/ directory...  After all the point of doing a fresh install is to get it -well- fresh.
[11:27] <bina> HrdwrBoB: oh right, its still alright to use these chans though?
[11:27] <HrdwrBoB> bina: yep
[11:27] <HrdwrBoB> heatxsink: SATA dvd is not supported
[11:27] <bina> HrdwrBoB: sweet
[11:27] <znh> !sourcesa
[11:27] <ubotu> znh: I give up, what is it?
[11:27] <znh> !sources
[11:27] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:27] <znh> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:28] <heatxsink> HrdwrBoB:  even though I can read the DVD via nautilis?
[11:28] <topyli> Bergcube: you should always backup /home anyway
[11:28] <barongas> Bergcube, just copy the .files for programs you find annoying to set up or you don't wanna toss your settings away on then..?
[11:28] <HrdwrBoB> heatxsink: hrm
[11:28] <HrdwrBoB> heatxsink: tbh I'm not sure, SATA DVD is a terrible hack
[11:28] <heatxsink> okay
[11:28] <heatxsink> damn it
[11:29] <Bergcube> topyli~ Yeah, of course.  :-)
[11:29] <heatxsink> I should've researched this way more
[11:29] <heatxsink> before buying it
[11:29] <heatxsink> what sucks even more is that it's a laptop
[11:29] <Bergcube> barongas~ I agree.  I guess that must be the way to do it.  Thx.
[11:29] <barongas> Bergcube, np. Good luck
[11:30] <HrdwrBoB> heatxsink: oh, yeah, ugh
[11:31] <HrdwrBoB> heatxsink: kinda pointless having SATA DVD in a laptop
[11:31] <HrdwrBoB> considering the chipset most likely has IDE anyway
[11:31] <Frafra> i must download (for put they in my pendrive) gstreamer-plugins, with all him packages related. do you know how i can do?
[11:31] <heatxsink> HrdwrBoB:  I have no idea
[11:32] <uthini> !backportals
[11:32] <ubotu> uthini: Are you on ritalin?
[11:32] <uthini> !back portals
[11:32] <ubotu> uthini: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:32] <rob^> haha
[11:32] <uthini> !synaptic
[11:32] <ubotu> well, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:33] <slibs> !backports
[11:33] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:33] <slibs> uthini: how 'bout that :D
[11:34] <uthini> tx slibs
[11:34] <uthini> my dl's are failing in synaptic
[11:34] <uthini> and core stuff like the linux imiage
[11:34] <uthini> kernel image even
[11:35] <HappyFool> uthini: what error message do you get?
[11:35] <uthini> failed to retrieve package
[11:36] <HappyFool> uthini: and if you run from the command-line? e.g., 'sudo aptitude upgrade' ?
[11:36] <uthini> same
[11:37] <HappyFool> can you paste the output to the pastebin? and your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[11:37] <GNULinuxer>  /umode +CE
[11:37] <uthini> not for the next few hours
[11:37] <HappyFool> pastebin is here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:37] <uthini> lol
[11:38] <zappaap> How I connect ubuntu to my isp?
[11:38] <GNULinuxer> Seveas: what's happening [spam bots] ?
[11:39] <codomaniac> GNULinuxer, hey
[11:39] <GNULinuxer> codomaniac: yes
[11:39] <uthini> HappyFool, a slightly more critical issue tho, i dl'ed and installed the kernel source so that i could compile my sound driver, but there is no version.h do i now need to configure this kernel source?
[11:39] <codomaniac> GNULinuxer, i want to have private word....
[11:40] <HappyFool> uthini: the wiki page has a kernel compile howto
[11:40] <rob^> beagle is so cool..
[11:40] <HappyFool> !kernelhowto
[11:40] <ubotu> methinks kernelhowto is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto
[11:40] <uthini> HappyFool, i don't wanna compile the kernel tho, i just wanna get sound drivers
[11:40] <HappyFool> uthini: oh, in that case you need linux-headers-386
[11:41] <uthini> bah
[11:41] <uthini> lol
[11:41] <uthini> :)
[11:41] <Gavrila> hi there, how is breezy atm?
[11:41] <HappyFool> uthini: or maybe -k7 or -<something else>
[11:41] <uthini> HappyFool, it makes sense that i need linux headers :)
[11:41] <uthini> version.h
[11:41] <uthini> :)
[11:42] <Frafra> where can i download w32codecs?
[11:42] <uthini> !ac97
[11:42] <ubotu> uthini: Wish i knew
[11:42] <HappyFool> uthini: that package has a version.h; it may be what you want
[11:43] <HappyFool> Frafra: i think the usual place is hoary-extras
[11:43] <uthini> tx HappyFool, how big issit?
[11:43] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[11:43] <ubotu> hoary-extras is probably see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:43] <uthini> and btw, if i cancel a synaptic dl will it resume?
[11:43] <HappyFool> uthini: i'm not sure; not too big (nothing like linux-source)
[11:44] <HappyFool> uthini: sorry, i'm not sure about that either. apt-get does resume, afaik
[11:45] <holycow> *hmmm*
[11:45] <holycow> where is the latest ubuntu breezy beta?
[11:45] <holycow> i wann give it an install on an xcube and submit the hardware spec
[11:45] <rob^> holycow, get the latest daily .iso build
[11:46] <holycow> rob^, i can't find the dang thing is what i mean, i thought i would find it easily the the ubuntulinux.org site
[11:46] <holycow> the mirrors don't seem to have a breezy dir ... hmmm ...
[11:47] <bimberi> uthini, HappyFool: apt based tools will resume partial downloads (fyi :)
[11:47] <rob^> your not supposed to find it easy
[11:47] <holycow> ah!
[11:47] <holycow> fair enough
[11:47] <andy-d> Hey guys, anyone here have problems with their VIA VT1612A ? :/
[11:48] <uthini> tx bimberi
[11:48] <bimberi> uthini: yw :)
[11:49] <daniels> Seveas: i hear I missed the flood hilarity
[11:50] <dooglus> wow!  I just updated breezy and GNOME works again!  :)
[11:51] <uthini> lol dooglus
[11:52] <dooglus> uthini: it had been not working for a day or two.  I was getting sick of xfce4
[11:53] <dooglus> uthini: KDE was broken too, if that helps :)
[11:53] <HrdwrBoB> uthini: that's unfortunate for you
[11:53] <uthini> lol
[11:54] <uthini> HappyFool, so once i have the kernel headers i should be able to comple? will i need kernel dev?
[11:54] <rob^> uthini, if you know what you are doing it isn't, too much crap just gets in the way ala kde
[11:54] <dooglus> I don't like KDE much either.  In fact I didn't find any desktop for Linux that comes close to the Redmond effort.
[11:54] <HappyFool> uthini: you'll need build-essential, probably
[11:54] <dooglus> sad but true
[11:54] <uthini> lol
[11:54] <uthini> mkay
[11:54] <uthini> i prefered enlighten the most
[11:55] <dooglus> it's very flashy, true, but usable?  I'm not too sure.
[11:55] <uthini> dunno, last i used it was in 2002
[11:55] <rob^> its a shave the dev team is so small
[11:55] <HappyFool> uthini: linux-headers is on the CD, fwiw (possibly not the latest version); build-essential is also on the CD
[11:55] <dooglus> I must have tried 20 or 30 different environments looking for something I really like
[11:55] <rob^> shame*
[11:55] <uthini> i have the most pleasant memories from it
[11:56] <uthini> tx HappyFool
[11:56] <holycow> dooglus, to each his own, i have yet to see any worth even considering from redmond regarding a ui
[11:57] <holycow> the so called 'redmond effort' is nothing more than polishing a turd
[11:57] <holycow> don't forget
[11:57] <holycow> they put the task bar on the bottom to 'differentiate' them selves in the market place
[11:57] <rob^> the colour scheme of windows make me sick
[11:57] <holycow> not because it actually made sense
[11:57] <andy-d> anyone here have the VT1612A chipset ?
[11:58] <holycow> and the rest of their ideas are built up on top of the original dumb ideas
[11:58] <rob^> man my grammar is tops tonight
[11:58] <holycow> -_-
[11:58] <holycow> dooglus, that being said, nothing wrong with liking what they do, all good
[11:59] <topyli> holycow: taskbar at bottom seems like a usability bug to me, when the apps have controls at the top. you have to move you mouse more to manage windows
[12:00] <holycow> topyli, having used gnome now for over a year, i agree, its a huge mistake
[12:00] <HappyFool> i moved my ms-windows taskbar to the top, and now many of the windows start *under* the frikkin thing
[12:00] <Frafra> where can i download (not using apt, aptitude & co.), w32codecs?
[12:01] <holycow> from the repository, just go to the url and download
[12:01] <holycow> google the site tho to find the repo
[12:01] <holycow> keyword would be restricted formats i think
[12:02] <barongas> Anyone know what loopback module support means?
[12:02] <Frafra> thx
[12:02] <Gavrila> is breezy not broken atm?
[12:03] <HappyFool> barongas: /dev/loop0 etc, i would guess
[12:03] <HappyFool> barongas: if so, this module (on my machine) /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/block/loop.ko
[12:04] <Gavrila> !ubuntu-backports
[12:04] <ubotu> Gavrila: Are you smoking crack?
[12:04] <uthini> rite, i have a brand new problem, i have to recompile cos alsa is built into my kernel.....
[12:04] <deFrysk> ! backports
[12:04] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:04] <Frafra> i can't found w32codecs..
[12:05] <iapx8088> Frafra, what about google
[12:05] <holycow> when in doubt my friend, google it
[12:05] <Frafra> iapx8088: i'm searching
[12:06] <holycow> google contains the sum total of human conciousness afterall
[12:06] <iapx8088> holycow, I'm with ya
[12:06] <holycow> ^5
[12:08] <Frafra> where is the cd who provided ubuntuguide.org?
[12:08] <Frafra> (damn.. my english it's very bad)
[12:08] <rob^> what?
[12:09] <Frafra> on ubuntuguide.org there was a cd
[12:09] <Frafra> with a lot of add-on
[12:09] <rob^> what for?
[12:09] <Frafra> gstreamer-plugins, w32codecs, ecc.
[12:09] <Determinist> totem-xine just works so much better than totem-gstreamer, unbelievably better
[12:09] <iapx8088> I cannot immagine any addons you can't find in the repositories
[12:09] <rob^> just add the repos to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:09] <rob^> !repos
[12:09] <ubotu> from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:10] <Frafra> i need it because i must install a lot of those program in a computer, with no connection
[12:10] <HappyFool> w32codecs is in hoary-extras
[12:10] <rob^> Frafra, you could grab the dvd
[12:10] <iapx8088> brut
[12:11] <Frafra> rob^: dvd?
[12:12] <rob^> a quick google bought up http://nginyang.uvt.nl/
[12:12] <barongas> HappyFool, thanks, checking it out
[12:12] <LokeDK> Why is Sound Juicer ripping so slow? 3.6x .. DMA is activated..
[12:13] <Frafra> what's the difference between cd and dvd edition?
[12:13] <Frafra> i've know that the dvd edition is live+install cd, but no more
[12:14] <rob^> no, with 4-odd gig theres going to be a lot more on there
[12:14] <rob^> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/
[12:14] <HappyFool> last time i tried the dvd iso bittorrent link, it didn't work
[12:15] <Frafra> http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.list - i've see gstreamer-plugin, but not w32codecs ecc.
[12:16] <rob^> http://lwn.net/Articles/134223/ <-unofficial addon cd
[12:16] <dooglus> I'm trying to compile Emacs.  The configure step tells me I need gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.1.  Which package do I need?
[12:16] <rob^> the links are dead though
[12:16] <HappyFool> well, since w32codecs is illegal, canonical are not likely to distribute it ;)
[12:16] <HappyFool> look on hoary-extras for w32codecs
[12:16] <Frafra> 404 not found
[12:16] <rob^> http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/add-on-cd/ubuntu-5.04-add-on-cd-2005-08-01.tgz
[12:17] <Belutz> rob^: what's in add-on?
[12:17] <Frafra> thanks
[12:17] <HappyFool> dooglus: at a guess, libgtk2.0-dev
[12:17] <rob^> Belutz, its just an unofficial extra ubuntu cd
[12:17] <dooglus> HappyFool: I tried, but that only has: libgtk2.0-dev: usr/lib/pkgconfig/gtk+-2.0.pc
[12:17] <rob^> you dont need it, everything is in the repos
[12:17] <dooglus> I need gtk+-2.0.1.pc
[12:17] <bimberi> Frafra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30147
[12:18] <joefso3> Is there a way to net-install ubuntu?
[12:18] <bimberi> Frafra: oops - too late :)
[12:18] <rob^> joefso3, not yet
[12:20] <rob^> joefso3, there is this though: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-29358.html
[12:20] <HappyFool> dooglus: sorry, i'm not sure; i don't know the ins and outs of gtk version numbering
[12:21] <Determinist> Bergcube: there should be such an option available
[12:21] <rob^> theres a floppy that can do it Bergcube
[12:21] <dooglus> HappyFool: my mistake.  you were spot on.  thanks for the help
[12:21] <rob^> see the link I gave to joefso3
[12:22] <rob^> it doesn't do partitioning though
[12:22] <HappyFool> dooglus: what emacs you compiling? from CVS?
[12:22] <dooglus> HappyFool: yes, from CVS
[12:22] <HappyFool> dooglus: cool. let me know what it's like ;)
[12:23] <dooglus> what's odd is that I compiled it from CVS just last week and it was fine.  I always use the "--with-x-toolkit=gtk" option to 'configure'.  And today it started complaining that it needed libgtk-2.0 >= 2.0.1 ?
[12:23] <dooglus> turns out I didn't have libgtk-2.0dev installed at all?
[12:23] <Bergcube> rob^~ I just read the provided link.  The floppy is not able to start on an ENPTY empty system.  It's a possible workaround, not a complete solution.  Still light-years better than nothing.  :-)
[12:24] <dooglus> HappyFool: I always use the CVS Emacs.  I don't notice much difference between it and the latest released version other than one feature I can't live without...  After doing a "C-x e" to run last keyboard macro you can now press "e" over and over to repeat the macro again and again.  Great feature.
[12:24] <joefso3> rob^: is there a way to install breezy?
[12:24] <rob^> Bergcube, well I didn't say it was pretty
[12:24] <joefso3> rob^: without installing hoary first
[12:24] <Bergcube> :-)
[12:24] <rob^> joefso3, yes, but you probably don't want to
[12:25] <HappyFool> dooglus: ok. i thought there was a major emacs new version due out soonish (emacs 22?)
[12:25] <dooglus> a couple of days ago someone was asking whether breezy was usable yet or not.  I told them I'd been using it for months without a problem.  Then, an hour later breezy broke.  And stayed broken for a day or two.  That's what I get I suppose.  :)
[12:26] <rob^> yep pretty much
[12:26] <dooglus> HappyFool: it's been a long long time since the last release, yes.  I don't know if 22 is due out soon or not.  It's still being worked on.
[12:26] <ompaul> dooglus, that is what happens :)
[12:26] <joefso3> rob^: could you elaborate on that?
[12:26] <rob^> joefso3, breezy is the development version can can be very unstable at times
[12:27] <rob^> joefso3, see topic
[12:27] <zxc3> Hi, how can I from the live cd mount my ubuntu partition?
[12:27] <joefso3> rob^: I'm planning to install it on the 'playing machine'. Ofcourse I understand it could be unstable, so is sid.
[12:28] <ompaul> joefso3, it is like sid - but not like testing imo if I can have one
[12:30] <admx> Anyone running snort on ubuntu?
[12:30] <zxc3> fdisk -l does nothing on the livecd :/
[12:30] <rob^> probably
[12:31] <brunft> hi ... just trying to install ubuntu 5.04 on a fujitsu-siemens lifebook s (S-4546) and running into troubles after the base installation. After rebooting i see the idle mouse pointer for some seconds after that the screen goes black :( Guess, the monitor was not detected right ... tried it with an external monitor, there it says "Out of Range!"
[12:31] <ompaul> zxc3, fdisk -l /dev/hda or /dev/hdb etc
[12:31] <funkyHat> that's annoying, X-Chat doesn't quite authenticate quickly enough so i got sent to the other room
[12:32] <rob^> theres a kludge that can fix that
[12:32] <Bergcube> brunft~ Then the very easy (temporary) workaround is to borrow a better monitor.
[12:32] <zxc3> ompaul, that does nothing as well :/
[12:32] <ompaul> zxc3, you are using (A) root terminal or (B) sudo I take it
[12:32] <brunft> i've a 19'' tft ...
[12:33] <zxc3> ompaul, I type sudo like normal but I don't get a password request (because it's live?)
[12:33] <catfox> hi all. has anyone ever tried using mldonkey?
[12:33] <ompaul> correct
[12:33] <zxc3> ompaul, yeah it doesn't do anything :/
[12:33] <ompaul> zxc3, hmm
[12:34] <ompaul> zxc3, hoary or breezy?
[12:34] <zxc3> ompaul, hoary
[12:34] <catfox> i'm trying mldonkey out, and i've got it to connect. but no downloads ever start
[12:34] <ompaul> zxc3, let me have a look at that
[12:34] <zxc3> ompaul, basically I'm trying to mount my ubuntu partition (hoary) since my boot loaders fucked
[12:34] <Bergcube> brunft~ It's probably the screen refresh rate that's too high for your monitor; not the size.  In my humble experience cathode ray tube monitors tend to be able to tackle higher rates than TFTs.
[12:35] <zxc3> ompaul, well my computer in general- I just wanna get my files off before I delete everything and do a fresh install
[12:35] <Almindor> anyone knows of a repository with wxPython 2.6 ?
[12:35] <brunft> is there a way, i can set the refresh rate manually?
[12:36] <ompaul> zxc3, if you want I can burn a CD here and see if it works here, can't find my live CD but have iso image and CDs that might help a little
[12:36] <HappyFool> 'sudo fdisk -l' should list all the hard-drive partitions ubuntu can find
[12:36] <zxc3> ompaul, if it's no trouble- I've been trying for like a week. :)
[12:37] <Bergcube> brunft~ Sure.  But so far I only know the GUI way.  Hence my idea about borrowing a tube...  I am sure you can do it with an editor in a config file as well.  I am not sure about what file tho'.....
[12:37] <ompaul> zxc3, I will also try breezy live burning atm
[12:38] <zxc3> ompaul, thanks...appreciated
[12:38] <Gavrila> when is breezy coming out?
[12:38] <ompaul> zxc3,  cdrecord -pad dev=/dev/hdd hoary-live-i386.iso
[12:38] <HappyFool> october
[12:38] <FLeiXiuS> Garathor: October
[12:38] <reiki> gee.. I wake up this morning and see a bunch of tabs opened. We get attacked by a bot that opens PM chats?
[12:38] <ompaul> !tell Gavrila about breezy
[12:39] <FLeiXiuS> reiki: SPAM bot, typical attack from script kiddies thinking their cool.
[12:39] <Bergcube> Maybe /etc/x11/xorg.conf ???  Perhaps not...
[12:39] <zxc3> ompaul, what does the above command do?
[12:39] <reiki> FLeiXiuS: ahhh... somehow I thought that didn't happen on freenode. :)
[12:40] <ompaul> zxc3, that is me burning the iso which is in the same directory that I am in and on this box the burner is an atapi on hdc
[12:40] <uthini> rite
[12:40] <Gavrila> is it sin your opinion, will upgrading now to breezy lead me to a really unusable system?
[12:40] <uthini> recompile time
[12:40] <Gavrila> in your oipnion*
[12:40] <brunft> @bergcube thx, i will try it with a tube, brb ...
[12:40] <ompaul> Gavrila, well yes, and no it may work today and tomorrow or five minutes or the day after it could be totally dead
[12:40] <FLeiXiuS> reiki: It happens anywhere...all you do is force users to authenticate
[12:40] <zxc3> ompaul, ah ok
[12:41] <Gavrila> ompaul: cause i'd really would like to use gnome beta2, have you got any advice then?
[12:41] <ompaul> Gavrila, that is why I had ubotu tell you
[12:41] <Viziri> When i goto System>Help I get a window with a help logo but no links to important docs
[12:41] <ompaul> Gavrila, wait, it will not be that far away
[12:42] <FLeiXiuS> Gavrila: I wouldn't recommend you to do so now.  With GCC4 out and the changes in the C API I'd stick to hoary for now.  Wait till the full release.
[12:42] <ITS_FOR_REAL> How do i change in "locale" from <utf-8> to <ISO-8859-15>
[12:42] <Determinist> my system is now officially set up the way i like it :D
[12:42] <Gavrila> FLeiXiuS: yes, this is a good point. Anyway gnome 2.12 has some features i'd really like and need like the new evince and cairo and the new browser
[12:43] <deFrysk> ITS_FOR_REAL, utf-8 is the new standard
[12:43] <FLeiXiuS> You can compile those your self right now.
[12:43] <Gavrila> FLeiXiuS: then why aren't them in backports?
[12:43] <ITS_FOR_REAL> deFrysk,  its not compatible with my winmachines....
[12:43] <bimberi> ITS_FOR_REAL: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:44] <Mez> Gavrila ... ?
[12:44] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Can i somehow fuck up things when changing?
[12:44] <FLeiXiuS> Gavrila: Maybe Jdong felt they're not "stable"
[12:44] <Mez> ITS_FOR_REAL, please, mind your language
[12:44] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Sorry about language can programs or so stop working if i change charset?
[12:45] <Goek> I've downloaded a tv-series as a DVD-ROM. The files lies in a folder and they're called stuff like .vob .vts .ifo and so on and so on. How do i burn them to a dvd-r so that the menu works?(in my dvd player)
[12:45] <brunft> just tried it on a tube monitor, i saw the login screen for some seconds but then the monitor resigned (went off) also ... :(
[12:46] <FLeiXiuS> Gavrila: Or, they depend on packages which would completely destroy your current stable system.  Who knows, there's thousands of reasons.
[12:46] <Determinist> is there any NX client for windows you guys recommend?
[12:46] <Stormx2> Gah
[12:47] <Stormx2> who the hell would spam bot ubuntu.
[12:47] <Gavrila> FLeiXiuS: the latter would then mean I shouldn't compile them as well ehehe
[12:47] <FLeiXiuS> Gavrila: No all I'm just saying is...Jdong hasn't either gotten any request for the new packages..or he feels that they aren't ready to be released.  For who knows why, maybe I'll talk with him about it.
[12:48] <Gavrila> FLeiXiuS: thanks for your informations
[12:48] <FLeiXiuS> Go to the forums and request these new packages..see what he thinks.
[12:50] <frans-th> hi all
[12:50] <frans-th> anyone can share the ubuntu development process, and ubuntu brand license?
[12:51] <Gorth-> Does Ubuntu support some sort of hdinstall? Fedora has something where you can boot with 'linux askmethod'
[12:51] <HappyFool> frans-th: look here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/
[12:52] <frans-th> do you know the url for ubuntu license?
[12:52] <ITS_FOR_REAL> when entering sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales i first got several charsets.... but when comming to dialog "Which locale should be the default in the system environment?" I can only choose UTF-8  ??? what to do?  i want ISO-8859-15 or ISO-8859-1
[12:52] <frans-th> how free is ubuntu brand?
[12:52] <HappyFool> frans-th: that page has links to the license and trademark policy
[12:52] <FLeiXiuS> frans-th: ubuntulinux.org buddy.
[12:53] <f_newton> frans-th, what are you trying to do?
[12:53] <Coyctecm> Will breezy support wpa?
[12:53] <ompaul> who was asking me for fdisk stuff
[12:53] <frans-th> i just want to know, the plus and minus of development on ubuntu
[12:53] <ompaul> who was asking me for fdisk -l
[12:54] <frans-th> there is a "regulation" from our goverment to make ubuntu become national linux, we must use indonesian brand
[12:54] <HappyFool> zxc3, but he seems to have left
[12:54] <zxc3> me
[12:54] <frans-th> but i think i have several idea to make ubuntu can be national linux, without change the brand
[12:54] <frans-th> can share
[12:54] <zxc3> ompaul, *waves* :P
[12:54] <HappyFool> frans-th: reed this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/document_view
[12:54] <HappyFool> zxc3: oops, my apologies
[12:55] <barongas> I'm trying to umount a drive and typed sudo umount /dev/hdc1 and now it has frozen. Shall I ctrl-c or wait and hope or what?
[12:55] <f_newton> well frans-th i would bet that they wouldnt particularly want someone marketing their own packages under the ubuntu name
[12:55] <zxc3> HappyFool, no problem
[12:55] <ompaul> zxc3, hiya it works here it appears that you have hardware problems - check your ide cable for a start :(
[12:55] <zxc3> ompaul, whaddha mean hardware problems? Like the harddrive isn't connected? :S
[12:55] <ompaul> start there
[12:56] <ompaul> zxc3,  or cable is loose
[12:56] <zxc3> ompaul, it can't really be that since my windows partition can boot
[12:56] <frans-th> f_newton: that is right
[12:56] <ompaul> zxc3, that is a fair comment - but fdisk -l in the root terminal works - sata by any chance?
[12:57] <f_newton> yes... it almost sounds like you are trying to make a commercial venture out of ubuntu.
[12:57] <zxc3> ompaul sata?
[12:57] <ompaul> zxc3, at type of drive connection to mother board
[12:57] <nertzy> hello, is there any way to get ndiswrapper to work with the ubuntu livecd?  or do you know another livecd with working ndiswrapper
[12:57] <zxc3> ompaul, ahh it works in root terminal...sudo musn't work on livecd
[12:58] <ompaul> hmm
[12:58] <ITS_FOR_REAL> bimberi,  u know what to do
[12:58] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ?
[12:58] <frans-th> f_newton: what is commercial venture
[12:58] <HappyFool> ITS_FOR_REAL: can you describe what problems you're having with windows?
[12:58] <f_newton> yeah whatever
[12:58] <HappyFool> ITS_FOR_REAL: i mean, with utf-8 vs ISO-* ?
[12:59] <ompaul> zxc3,  http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1648
[12:59] <ITS_FOR_REAL> HappyFool, when using sharing of units and ftp server all my swedish letters doesnt read right...
[01:00] <zxc3> ompaul, very odd...doesn't do anything this side...but root terminal is fine
[01:00] <bimberi> ITS_FOR_REAL: no, sorry
[01:00] <ITS_FOR_REAL> And when using irc on quakenet i use ISO-8859-15 and also when typing documents.
[01:00] <ompaul> zxc3, that is strange
[01:00] <ompaul> zxc3, corrupted image perhaps - but that does not really make sense
[01:00] <ITS_FOR_REAL> HappyFool, so what problems for using my native language?
[01:01] <ompaul> zxc3, when you get the machine working do a md5sum on the cdrom and we must compare notes
[01:01] <ITS_FOR_REAL> HappyFool,  i cant change all my pals charsets on their winmachines ;)
[01:02] <HappyFool> ITS_FOR_REAL: i'm not an expert, sorry. Is it possible to get an ftp client which understands utf-8 filenames? i.e., does some kind of translation?
[01:02] <Napalmz> hello
[01:03] <Napalmz> where can i see the list of ubuntu software? i mean instalable via apt? is there another list than the one from debian.org for universe or?
[01:03] <HappyFool> Napalmz: maybe packages.ubuntu.com is what you want?
[01:03] <zxc3> ompaul, my linux partition is /dev/sda3 but when I say "mount /dev/sda3" it says mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mstab
[01:03] <Napalmz> HappyFool i suppose ;) thanks!
[01:04] <albacker> zxc3, mkdir sda3; mount /dev/sda3 sda3
[01:04] <ITS_FOR_REAL> HappyFool, when pal uploading stuff the filename says: ?rs fest (invalid encoding)          And its not only FTP...
[01:04] <HappyFool> ITS_FOR_REAL: i can't see anything about encoding in smb.conf, unfortunately
[01:04] <albacker> zxc3, and add one line in /etc/fstab so when you do mount /dev/sda3 it will find the directory itself.
[01:04] <zxc3> albacker, it exists but is not a directory
[01:04] <Napalmz> btw, ne1 have a suggestion for me for a CMS?(content management system) except than php-nuke, zope, slashcode?
[01:05] <HappyFool> don't do 'mkdir sda3' in /dev ;)
[01:05] <Gavrila> what's the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile?
[01:05] <albacker> zxc3, try this as root .      mkdir /mnt/sda3; mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/sda3
[01:06] <albacker> Gavrila, i think that .bashrc has the commands to be excecuted when bash starts..
[01:06] <HappyFool> Gavrila: .bash_profile is only read for a 'login shell'
[01:06] <ITS_FOR_REAL> HappyFool, so use Ubuntu in sweden is impossible then if u want it to be compatible with other machines?  i mean in irc "Quakenet" ISO-8859-15 is standard... Due to there are mostly swedes.  This seems very weird to me....  Who can i talk with this problem about? I guess Ubuntu should work for swedes also
[01:06] <zxc3> albacker, on live cd how do I check if it's worked :/
[01:07] <Gavrila> HappyFool: thanks
[01:07] <dooglus> I used "mount -t smbfs" to mount a windows share.  After that, there was a constant 1k/s network usage going on.  Is that normal?
[01:07] <albacker> zxc3, you are using a livecd, and want to mount your hdd and see whats there ?
[01:07] <Jhair> hm. hoary ships with two different compilers (gcc-3.4 and gcc-3.3) I suppose mainly because firefox depends on a newer version of the C++ library...
[01:07] <dooglus> I wasn't using the shared drive - I just had it mounted, and that caused 1k/s upload and 1k/s download.  umount'ing it stopped the traffic, too.
[01:07] <HappyFool> ITS_FOR_REAL: sorry, i don't really know
[01:07] <zxc3> albacker, yeah basically I need to get my files of it before wiping my hard drive
[01:07] <kemik> dooglus:  i'd imagine it'd start some network traffic yes
[01:07] <Jhair> Is this dependency aready fixed in breezy? I mean, I want to have ONE compiler version installed on my machine
[01:08] <mcphail> Hi. I'm getting "Connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com[82.211.81.176] :80... failed: Connection refused." when trying to wget colony 3. Any ideas?
[01:08] <HappyFool> ITS_FOR_REAL: look at your ftp server config files, for starters; i'm not sure about irc
[01:08] <Viziri> I can't install KDE - keep getting dependency errors. I've updated repositories
[01:08] <dooglus> ITS_FOR_REAL: I think it was a concious decision to exclude Swedes from using ubuntu.
[01:08] <albacker> zxc3, ok, create a dir and mount the /dev/sda3 into that dir. for ex. go into home. and do:     mkdir sda3mounted; mount /dev/sda3 sda3mounted
[01:08] <dooglus> ITS_FOR_REAL: it was either going to be the Swedes or the Dutch, and the Dutch offered a bigger bribe.
[01:08] <ITS_FOR_REAL> HappyFool,  if i :`/etc/locale.gen', which you can also edit manually     if i reconfigure manually to my iso standard would it find the correct charset?
[01:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> dooglus,  hahaha very funny
[01:09] <HappyFool> ITS_FOR_REAL: i think it might be more complicated than that
[01:09] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  use xchat and choose layout in the server tab
[01:09] <albacker> zxc3, than write the files you want into the CD, and than wipe out your hdd..
[01:09] <dooglus> ITS_FOR_REAL: can't you guys just use English, like civilised people?
[01:09] <w1ng> good morgning
[01:09] <w1ng> someone here who can me help out with setting up a webcam?
[01:10] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  and i also think there's a mount option to mount stuff with diff.charsets
[01:10] <ITS_FOR_REAL> dooglus,  why cant we use our native language when creating files?
[01:10] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  you can.. i can for one
[01:10] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  you're probably doing something wrong
[01:10] <kemik>  ;)
[01:10] <dooglus> ITS_FOR_REAL: you can, if you use Swedux, or something.  If you want to use an English OS (like Linux), speak English.  Um...
[01:10] <kemik> dooglus:  stop trolling please
[01:11] <Gavrila> dooglus: wth are saying?
[01:11] <dooglus> ok.  I'm not very good at it, am I...
[01:11] <deFrysk> ITS_FOR_REAL, http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html
[01:11] <HappyFool> to be honest, i would've thought the ftp client (and windows sharing client) would specify the charset, and the ftp server (or samba) would do the Right Thing, but i guess not
[01:11] <Adross> send word to torvalds
[01:11] <Adross> we are at way
[01:11] <Adross> *war
[01:11] <ITS_FOR_REAL> kemik, yes in irc.... but what about when ur talking with winmachines in ftp or sharing folders etc... to change charset in irc its just typing /charset....
[01:12] <albacker> zxc3, so did you mount it ?
[01:12] <zxc3> albacker, I just used your example- now where can I access"sda3mounted"...what folder would it be iin
[01:12] <Adross> are the forums being dos'd?
[01:12] <zxc3> albacker...ah yes it's in my home directory
[01:12] <zxc3> albacker- hmm it's corrupted...damn
[01:13] <ITS_FOR_REAL> kemik, the problem is that all winmachines in sweden use iso standard and ubnunt utf-8  .....  i cant change all my pals computer... easier to change mine... i thought ;)
[01:13] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  tried playing with the "iocharset" option in mount ?
[01:13] <ITS_FOR_REAL> kemik, nope i will try that then
[01:13] <zukalk> ITS_FOR_REAL, i have the exact same problem with portuguese characters
[01:13] <albacker> zxc3, :S
[01:13] <mcphail> Is cdimage.ubuntu.com being attacked? If so, does anyone have a bittorrent tracker or mirror for colony 3?
[01:13] <ailleantsian> can anyone tell me how to delete a dir thats protected?
[01:13] <ITS_FOR_REAL> zukalk, good... im not the only one then ;)
[01:13] <albacker> zxc3, are you root when trying to access it !?
[01:14] <Adross> mcphail: everything's being attacked
[01:14] <mcphail> ok
[01:14] <HappyFool> mcphail: i can browse cdimage.ubuntu.com
[01:14] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  im a swede too, but i've not had much trouble with this charset thing..
[01:14] <dooglus> I have the same problem with Czech characters.
[01:14] <Adross> from some server were.not.microsoft.com
[01:14] <HappyFool> mcphail: oops, sorry, i can't
[01:14] <ITS_FOR_REAL> kemik,  what charser are u running? typ locale in terminal....
[01:14] <Adross> or no.really.were.not.microsoft.com
[01:14] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  UTF-8 ;)
[01:14] <mcphail> HappyFool: I think it just went down a minute ago
[01:14] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, you should be able to do it given that Linus is a native Swedish speaker, like some percentage of people from Finland :)
[01:15] <zxc3> albacker, I'm accessing it through nautilus
[01:15] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  but then i usually use english as the language of choice in both windows / linux..
[01:15] <ITS_FOR_REAL> kemik,  then ure getting problem when using ftp and  or sharing folders to winmachines...
[01:15] <albacker> zxc3, open your terminal, get root. and do        cd ~/sda3mounted
[01:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, yes i can choose SWEDISH UTF8 but winmachines are using iso standars.... argh
[01:16] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  maybe.. not bothered to check.. but try using the iocharset option
[01:16] <Adross> mcphail: no, i refuse to believe any linux user would stoop this low
[01:16] <Gavrila> ITS_FOR_REAL: I have the same problem with accented italian characters... my solution was still retaining utf but not using acceented anymore :P
[01:16] <dooglus> mcphail: install or live?
[01:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> kemik, yes im on my way
[01:16] <Adross> most probably by ubuntu01
[01:16] <mcphail> Adross: must be BSD then!
[01:16] <mcphail> dooglus: install
[01:16] <Adross> no, no unix brother would do this
[01:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Gavrila,  yes ok very good then.... U cant use native language in ubuntu! gg!
[01:17] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  of course you can, blame M$ for their nonstandards :(
[01:17] <Gavrila> ITS_FOR_REAL: you can indeed use your native language in ubuntu
[01:17] <zxc3> albacker, I'll just get the files of windows, that's mounted fine- I just ubuntu would be easier to mount. Does live have a cd burner?
[01:17] <Gavrila> ITS_FOR_REAL: simply you can't make special characters be read by windows if use utf
[01:18] <ITS_FOR_REAL> kemik, erhm..
[01:18] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Gavrila, yes i know but.... Argh  seems that it would be easier to change to iso in ubuntu....
[01:18] <Gavrila> ITS_FOR_REAL: otherwise use the iso charset for sweden
[01:18] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Gavrila, i cant change to iso... thats the problem
[01:18] <dooglus> mcphail: I was thinking I could use Azureus to get a 'magnet link' for you, but I found that Azureus has stopped working...  Looks like another problem with Breezy...
[01:18] <Gavrila> ITS_FOR_REAL: indeed it is, it's all up yo you
[01:19] <Gavrila> ITS_FOR_REAL: why can't you
[01:19] <Gavrila> ?
[01:19] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Its not possible....
[01:19] <ITS_FOR_REAL> i can only choose utf-8
[01:19] <Gavrila> ITS_FOR_REAL: that's not true
[01:19] <mcphail> dooglus: maybe not the best time to try it out then? ;)
[01:19] <HappyFool> ITS_FOR_REAL: have you tried the 'dos charset' option in smb.conf ?
[01:19] <Gavrila> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[01:19] <^dave> holla
[01:19] <dooglus> mcphail: I've been using it for months, but the last few days have been messy.  I only just got back the ability to run GNOME and KDE...
[01:19] <kemik> dos.charset almost sounds like 8.3 convention ;)
[01:19] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Gavrila, yes but when entering next screen there are only UTF-8
[01:19] <dooglus> mcphail: I'd leave it a while if I was you.  :)
[01:20] <DjKritical> Quick question... is Wine or Qemu better for 3d gaming?
[01:20] <HappyFool> kemik: yeah, i can't tell if it applies to windows too
[01:20] <zxc3> Does live come with a cd burner?
[01:20] <^dave> 'looking around'  this is the linux helpchannel?
[01:20] <ITS_FOR_REAL> HappyFool, no i havent
[01:20] <mcphail> dooglus: yeah, but I've got a new hard disk and time to spare
[01:20] <dooglus> mcphail: I really don't see much that's changed to be honest.  Certainly nothing worth messing up your hoary for anyway.
[01:20] <linuxboy> ^dave: ubuntu help channer
[01:20] <HappyFool> ^dave: this is a support channel for ubuntu (a linux distribution)
[01:20] <ompaul> ^dave, where a subset of linux is ubuntu :-)
[01:20] <^dave> ok good
[01:20] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  edit your .bash_profile and add the charset there. .then all your screens would "remmeber" your setting
[01:20] <bimberi> zxc3: You can use nautilus.  Paste files into the burn:/// location.  When ready choose File -> Write to Disc
[01:20] <^dave> because i need help
[01:21] <^dave> just a little
[01:21] <dooglus> mcphail: you could install hoary on the new hard disk, and then update it to breezy.  you don't need to download the whole image then, just the bits you use.
[01:21] <ompaul> !tell dave about ask
[01:21] <spiffykendo> hi  guys
[01:21] <kemik> ITS_FOR_REAL:  and ask in #ubuntu.se how they've done
[01:21] <ailleantsian> what is the command to delete a folder?
[01:21] <zxc3> can you remove the live cd while it's running...?
[01:21] <^dave> how do i suspend my thinkpad t21 to ram?
[01:21] <ompaul> kemik, would that be #ubuntu-se
[01:21] <dooglus> ailleantsian: "rmdir" will remove an empty folder
[01:22] <kemik> ompaul:  no. ubuntu.se
[01:22] <ompaul> kemik, ahh
[01:22] <dooglus> ailleantsian: or "rm -r" will remove a folder and all its contents recursively.
[01:22] <spiffykendo> rm /S will remove any folder full or not
[01:22] <zxc3> Ordinarily I would just try it but I've done too much configuring to risk losing it
[01:22] <mcphail> dooglus: I've only got the warty cd. Dist-upgraded to hoary (and reconfigured X etc etc). Was looking for something a little bit simpler. I suppose I might be able to upgrade directly from warty to breezy?
[01:22] <dooglus> spiffykendo: /S?
[01:22] <Gavrila> ^dave: google
[01:22] <kemik> ompaul:  dont ask me why they named it .se and not -se ;)
[01:22] <ITS_FOR_REAL> kemik, gr8 didnt know they had a .se :P
[01:22] <spiffykendo> it works rm /S
[01:22] <dooglus> "rm /S" will remove a file called "S" from the root directory...
[01:22] <frans-th> hi kemik :) how r u
[01:22] <ompaul> kemik, might be a swedish thing :)
[01:22] <spiffykendo> or is it rm-s
[01:22] <dooglus> rm: cannot lstat `/S': No such file or directory
[01:23] <kemik> ompaul:  heh, yea ;)
[01:23] <spiffykendo> it one or the other
[01:23] <frans-th> Jeff email me, and now he in discussion with goverment :P
[01:23] <kemik> frans-th:  im fine ty ;)
[01:23] <dooglus> there's no -s flag to my rm...
[01:23] <xukun> when try to play dvd's whith xine I get the next errors. Any idea's? "libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[01:23] <xukun> libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
[01:23] <xukun> libdvdread: Could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss.
[01:23] <xukun> libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[01:23] <xukun> "
[01:23] <spiffykendo> its rm -r
[01:23] <spiffykendo> thats it
[01:23] <mcphail> ailleantsian: rm -rf
[01:23] <ompaul> xukun, do not paste in here please - use a pastebin
[01:23] <frans-th> kemik: we are in process to make ubuntu become an exception for goverment to make it indonesian formally national desktop :P
[01:23] <zxc3> Thanks for all your help guys
[01:23] <kemik> frans-th:  really? that sounds really cool =)
[01:23] <ompaul> zxc3, hope it works
[01:24] <frans-th> kemik: that is because all of you help us, dude :P
[01:24] <knt> i've connected a usb storage device to my pc and mounted usbfs in /proc/bus/usb. i can see /proc/bus/usb{devices,001/001,001/002,001/003} files but now how can i mount its filesystem to a directory?
[01:24] <spiffykendo> windows with keep poping up in this room, is that the spambot
[01:24] <frans-th> kemik: i said to the goverment, why we have to rebranding, if ubuntu is as open as you think :)
[01:24] <zxc3> ompaul, I'm just gonna use a usb stick to transfer things over. It's slow but it works...just glad I've got my files :))
[01:24] <ompaul> spiffykendo, yes, do /umode +CE
[01:24] <HappyFool> knt: didn't it auto-mount
[01:24] <ompaul> spiffykendo, it stops the spamming
[01:24] <spiffykendo> cool, thanks
[01:25] <Adross> anyone have any experience with the cowon iAudio m3?
[01:25] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Well thx everyone for trying to help me... going to .se and try to get solutions there
[01:25] <ITS_FOR_REAL> bbl
[01:25] <frans-th> kemik: i just propose that the linux development funding from our goverment donate to ubuntu :)
[01:25] <kemik> frans-th:  the ubuntu community is a much friendlier place than then debiancommunity
[01:25] <spiffykendo> has any one got breezy installed
[01:25] <knt> HappyFool, no. how can i mount it manually?
[01:25] <frans-th> kemik: :) i know it
[01:25] <ompaul> kemik, and what makes you say that :-) [chortle] 
[01:25] <ailleantsian> and how do you delete files using shell as the r isnt working
[01:25] <frans-th> kemik: this is the value that make an exception for anything, why invest in another brand, if ubuntu is the most open and friendly distro :P
[01:25] <HappyFool> knt: usb devices appear as /dev/sd*, i think
[01:25] <xukun> ompaul: sorry
[01:25] <kemik> frans-th:  indeed :)
[01:25] <spiffykendo> aillenantsian use the command rm -r
[01:25] <HappyFool> knt: can you paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' to the pastebin?
[01:26] <HappyFool> knt: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:26] <spiffykendo> does brezzy auto mount NTFS/FAt drives
[01:26] <Adross> ping 85.99.1.166
[01:26] <Adross> who's up for some poorly thought out retialiation?
[01:26] <frans-th> kemik: what is indeed? never use that word :P
[01:26] <kemik> ompaul:  well, 2 visits in #debian ;) although im still running 2 debian machines (too lazy for re-install)
[01:26] <ompaul> xukun, no need to be sorry, ;-) just remember pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:26] <HappyFool> spiffykendo: Seveas wrote a script to do that for hoary; might work on breezy
[01:26] <knt> HappyFool, there's only /dev/hd.. devices. not any sd one.
[01:26] <HappyFool> knt: hmm
[01:26] <spiffykendo> happyfool were do i get this script
[01:26] <frans-th> anyone can explain the wording of ubuntu trademark: we will sponsor registration fees for approved domains, and leave technical administrative control in the hands of the website operator.
[01:27] <spiffykendo> i have horay
[01:27] <bimberi> !mountwindows
[01:27] <frans-th> what is that mean?
[01:27] <ubotu> mountwindows is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[01:27] <kemik> frans-th:  indeed; Without a doubt; certainly: very cold indeed; was indeed grateful.
[01:27] <ompaul> kemik, if I could get a kernel organised for my slice of a ZEN machine I would be using ubuntu there - but as it is I have a few boxes with it installed
[01:27] <kemik> frans-th:  www.dictionary.com is a great resource.. i use it often myself ;)
[01:27] <frans-th> kemik: :P thx
[01:27] <frans-th> kemik: do you know, is ubuntu license = Apache license?
[01:27] <rob^> kemik, the panel applet is even better
[01:27] <knt> HappyFool, i've a personal kernel. i'm not sure if i'd installed the all required modules: usb_storage, uhci_hcd, usbcore.
[01:27] <HappyFool> knt: unfortunately i don't have my memory stick with me
[01:27] <HappyFool> knt: aahhh
[01:28] <kemik> rob^:  ahh gotta try it out i guess ;)
[01:28] <spiffykendo> Will ubuntu devs fix this in the next release
[01:28] <xukun> I cant play dvd with xine. please help if you can: this is the error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1649
[01:28] <ailleantsian> rmdir: invalid option -- r
[01:28] <kemik> frans-th:  i dont know much about the different licenses :/
[01:28] <rob^> kemik, sometimes I wish xchat had it built in :)
[01:28] <HappyFool> spiffykendo: did you see the link bimberi posted?
[01:28] <knt> HappyFool, what's the mean of devices under usbfs/001/00{1,2,3}
[01:28] <kemik> rob^:  maybe script a tcl-plugin ;)
[01:28] <spiffykendo> ailleantsin dont use the command rmdir -r its just rm -r
[01:28] <ailleantsian> ahh sorted it
[01:28] <spiffykendo> yea
[01:29] <ompaul> frans-th, talk to canonical directly
[01:29] <ailleantsian> thanks its gone ! :D
[01:29] <HappyFool> knt: i'm not a kernel hacker, but i think those are 'raw' devices (in some sense); the kernel emulates the storage device as a scsi device
[01:29] <HappyFool> knt: did you include scsi-emulation (i think that's what it's called) in your kernel? It can be a module
[01:29] <spiffykendo> but i would like breezy to do it automatilyy,  when i use this script will they show in my computer
[01:29] <ompaul> frans-th, thats two types of directly :) one where you do the talking and two where you do it now
[01:29] <frans-th> ompaul: talk what?
[01:30] <HappyFool> spiffykendo: file a feature request; bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[01:30] <frans-th> ompul: cannot get your point, can explain more
[01:30] <knt> HappyFool, thanks so much.
[01:30] <ompaul> frans-th, about getting ubuntu registered in your country and all sorts of funky stuff there
[01:30] <spiffykendo> why should it be a feature, most other distro do it.  will the hal bug be fixed do you think in breezy. Cause i used to mount in media in warty and they would show
[01:31] <frans-th> ok
[01:31] <spiffykendo> in my computer
[01:31] <frans-th> i am asking jeff now
[01:31] <ompaul> frans-th, enjoy
[01:32] <__HaNgMaNz__> Question about Eclipse 3.2 with Sun JDK 1.5.0.04:  Why won't Eclipse save/remember JDK's I add?  It insists on using on the jdk-1.4 installed by Ubuntu and the repositories...
[01:32] <spiffykendo> I can easily mount my partitions but i like them to show in my computer, makes life a little easier
[01:32] <rob^> geez if you don't know how to mount ntfs partitions you shouldn't be using breezy yet
[01:32] <frans-th> ompaul: jeff said that ubuntu is own by canonical
[01:32] <HappyFool> __HaNgMaNz__: asked in #eclipse ?
[01:32] <__HaNgMaNz__> Any one else had that problem with Eclipse before?
[01:32] <frans-th> ompaul: do you know what is the restriction of ubuntu?
[01:32] <^dave> how do i check if dma is turned on?
[01:32] <spiffykendo> i dont use breezy, but i would to now if the HAL bug will be fixed in it
[01:33] <__HaNgMaNz__> Not yet, thought I'd ask here since everyone's usually so helpful.
[01:33] <HappyFool> ^dave: on which device?
[01:33] <ompaul> frans-th, talk to canonical - the people who own it - there are very very few restrictions - they are all good ones
[01:33] <HappyFool> __HaNgMaNz__: fair enough; just a suggestion
[01:33] <^dave> on the harddrive eg hda1
[01:33] <ompaul> frans-th, read the GPL
[01:33] <HappyFool> ^dave: 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda'
[01:33] <ailleantsian> and the last of my hassles ... my sound only sometimes loads is there any way to make it load every time ?
[01:33] <onno> I want to install transcode to rip a DVD but it wont work
[01:33] <HappyFool> ^dave: not /dev/hda1 -- that's a partition
[01:33] <^dave> i try that   thx
[01:33] <onno> synaptic doesn't allow it... Do you have some idea?
[01:34] <rob^> onno, you need to add some unofficial repos to get transcode
[01:34] <onno> wich?
[01:34] <dooglus> the java vw has stopped working in breezy for me.  what's the suggested way of installing it?  I think I'll try a re-install.
[01:34] <rob^> onno, or download it from the net somewhere
[01:34] <rob^> dooglus, use suns one
[01:34] <spiffykendo> I have two DVD+r/rw drives i can only enable DMa on one, when i try to enable the second one it crashes GNOME
[01:34] <admx> Interesting short read @ http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/340767p-290757c.html
[01:35] <frans-th> ompaul: i know GPL :) but the logo? is it GPL?
[01:35] <rob^> no
[01:35] <rob^> the logo is copyrighted
[01:36] <rob^> see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/licensing/document_view
[01:36] <HappyFool> frans-th: have you read this? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/document_view    -- and if you have contact with Jeff Waugh, i imagine he knows much better than any of us what the policies of canonical/ubuntu are
[01:36] <admx> So  the moral of the story (Russian roulette) is.........
[01:36] <ompaul> frans-th, for definitive answers talk to canonical - the logo has copyrights - they will allow you use it if you can comply with certain restrictions - they know what they are - if you want to do something with their stuff you need to talk to them
[01:36] <admx> Take chances at your own risk!
[01:37] <rob^> for info on the logo see: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/document_view
[01:37] <onno> rob^, wich rep. do I need for transcode
[01:38] <rob^> #deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[01:38] <rob^> thats all I'll say
[01:38] <HappyFool> sans '#' ;)
[01:39] <rob^> copy/pasted from sources.list :)
[01:39] <rob^> bbl tv
[01:40] <^dave> HappyFool but how can i make the system remember the changed dma status of a drive
[01:40] <HappyFool> ^dave: the wiki have some info on this
[01:40] <HappyFool> !dma
[01:41] <HappyFool> hrm
[01:41] <HappyFool> !tell ^dave about dma
[01:41] <HappyFool> see point 4 on that page
[01:41] <KillerKiwi2005> ahh made it
[01:41] <bimberi> !+dma
[01:42] <ubotu> I guess dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA
[01:42] <KillerKiwi2005> whoever made the register instruction line its not very clear for noobs like me :)
[01:42] <bimberi> use the "+" with care :)
[01:42] <bimberi> some factoids are very long
[01:43] <Hoxzer> finaly :)
[01:44] <uthini> hey peepes
[01:44] <Seveas> hi
[01:45] <uthini> Seveas, maybe you know whats potting, i've compiled most of the alsa packages....... driver,oss,lib
[01:45] <uthini> but i can't get plugins or utils to compile
[01:45] <uthini> got any ideas?
[01:45] <funkyHat> how can i make my standard CLI (tty1 etc) have a higher resolution?
[01:45] <ompaul> Seveas, pm?
[01:46] <Seveas> ompaul, be my guest
[01:46] <topyli> funkyHat: use the framebuffer
[01:46] <Determinist> funkyHat: xorg.conf
[01:46] <Seveas> uthini, my alsa knowledge is very limited i'm afraid
[01:46] <Seveas> maybe #alsa can help
[01:46] <Determinist> funkyHat: erm, well, no... that would be for X
[01:47] <Determinist> !lamp
[01:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:47] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[01:47] <topyli> funkyHat: i have "vga=791" on my default kernel line in grub's menu.lst and get 1024x780 (or whatever it is)
[01:47] <funkyHat> uthini, i've upgraded to alsa 1.0.9b, but only lib and base... have you tried just using the ubuntu versions of the other parts?
[01:48] <uthini> funkyHat, not yet, haven't run the modprobe stuffs
[01:48] <funkyHat> well, that works for me anyway :)
[01:49] <funkyHat> (i had alsa from apt installed already, and i compiled alsa-base and alsa-lib)
[01:50] <admx> Is LAMP required for Snort?
[01:50] <Seveas> no
[01:50] <admx> Sounds like it is
[01:50] <uthini> !alsa
[01:50] <ubotu> I guess alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:50] <uthini> well
[01:50] <uthini> onto the modprobe stuffs
[01:50] <funkyHat> 1024x768 would be great :)
[01:51] <funkyHat> topyli, can you #flood the relevant part of your menu.lst please?
[01:52] <admx> About to turn my 5 year old loose on Ubuntu with VMware for his Windows apps
[01:52] <Determinist> any of you guys know or use a firewall that's better than firestarter?
[01:53] <dooglus> define 'better'?
[01:53] <topyli> funkyHat: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=791 quiet splash
[01:53] <topyli> that's my default kernel's kernel line
[01:53] <Determinist> hmmm, has a better UI, better config options etc
[01:53] <funkyHat> thanks :)
[01:53] <dooglus> I used to use firestarter but switched to 'ipkungfu'.  but it has no gui.
[01:54] <Fr0Gs> hey all i need some help
[01:54] <topyli> funkyHat: just add the vga option at the end of the line
[01:54] <Fr0Gs> can someone messsage me who knows how to make links
[01:54] <dooglus> Fr0Gs: "ln" makes links
[01:54] <admx> "ipkunfu" what a interesting name
[01:54] <Seveas> ln -s /path/to/source /path/to/destination
[01:54] <dooglus> or do you mean "cd links; make" ?
[01:55] <admx> I'll have to google that one
[01:55] <dooglus> admx: just "apt-get install ipkungfu"
[01:55] <topyli> funkyHat: for other resolutions, search the web for their hex codes, you might not like 791
[01:56] <admx> I meant google it to read up on it
[01:56] <dooglus> admx: you configure it by editing a set of text files.  it's pretty simple.
[01:57] <KillerKiwi2005> can you install rpm packages ? how?
[01:58] <funkyHat> :| finding the codes for that is pretty hard
[01:58] <dooglus> KillerKiwi2005: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:58] <funkyHat> putting in hex and 1280x1024 or things like that just brings up loads of web design forum topics
[01:59] <ompaul> KillerKiwi2005, you can if you use alien, but given that there are over 16000 programs for ubuntu maybe just maybe it is a matter of setting up the correct repositories
[01:59] <Fr0Gs> Seveas, private message
[01:59] <mirak> I have read an article in a magazin
[01:59] <Seveas> Fr0Gs, it's not very polite to invade with a private message. Good way to get ignored
[01:59] <mirak> and ubuntu have little notes for software availability
[02:00] <Fr0Gs> ok
[02:00] <ompaul> mirak, what do you mean? I do not understand you
[02:01] <mirak> they say in comparison of redhat there is less packages
[02:01] <mirak> available
[02:01] <mirak> don't know if they means commerical rpms
[02:01] <Seveas> mirak, that's nonsense.
[02:01] <mirak> but the availability should have been the same than debian
[02:01] <mirak> yes
[02:01] <mirak> it's stupid
[02:01] <mirak> I was stunned seeing how ridiculous it was
[02:02] <ompaul> mirak, so don't repeat fud without calling it fud notice as read in magazine *blah*
[02:02] <Fr0Gs> i got a folder called firefox in home/dean how do i make a link so i can just type firefox instead of browsing to the folder and typing ./firefox
[02:02] <Seveas> Fr0Gs, don't install firefox yourself
[02:02] <Seveas> use the ubuntu packages...
[02:02] <HappyFool> maybe they meant on the install cd -- fedora comes on 4 cd's, after all
[02:02] <Fr0Gs> i want to
[02:02] <Fr0Gs> ubuntu packages are old
[02:02] <Seveas> nonsense
[02:02] <Seveas> ubuntu has 1.0.6
[02:02] <mirak> ompaul: what ? You should be able to understand this at first
[02:03] <Fr0Gs> im on 4.10
[02:03] <Seveas> 4.10 has 1.0.6 too
[02:03] <Seveas> and if you don't want old packages, don't use an old Ubuntu version...
[02:03] <dooglus> Fr0Gs: edit ~/.bashrc and add a line at the end saying:     alias ff="~/firefox/firefox"
[02:04] <dooglus> Fr0Gs: then start a new bash and you'll be able to type "ff" to run firefox
[02:04] <KillerKiwi2005> this install thing all seems a little crazy.... Not saying win is better but when was the last time I had to command line to install a downloaded app.....
[02:04] <dooglus> KillerKiwi2005: so use synaptic?
[02:04] <HappyFool> KillerKiwi2005: what are you trying to install?
[02:04] <funkyHat> dooglus, he said a downloaded app
[02:04] <reiki> KillerKiwi2005, you don't have to command line. You can use Synaptic
[02:04] <ompaul> mirak, if you are going to state fud, let everyone know that it is fud from the off (fear uncertainity and doubt) so they can laugh rather than be concerned with the fact that you may need to be told otherwise that is all
[02:05] <mcphail> Fr0Gs: sudo mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox.old; sudo ln -s /path/to/your/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox
[02:05] <funkyHat> reiki, can you do that with a .deb you've downloaded?
[02:05] <hatake_kakashi> KillerKiwi2005, it doesn't hurt to use CLI :)
[02:06] <reiki> funkyHat, I have no idea. Haven't installed a deb yet. No need so far
[02:06] <ncp> CLI is the best way to move around the system :)
[02:06] <funkyHat> reiki, that's what KillerKiwi2005 was talking about ;)
[02:06] <Fr0Gs> thanks mcphail thats what i neeeded :)
[02:06] <KillerKiwi2005> not saying fud just saying it would be nice if there was an install app item on the menu that did some magic and install my package regardless of what format it is in... ie rpm, deb ehatever
[02:06] <mirak> ompaul: I don't know what means fud
[02:06] <mirak> I guess what it is though
[02:06] <reiki> funkyHat,  doh!  that'll teach me to type without reading back a few pages :)
[02:06] <topyli> funkyHat: found it: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3
[02:06] <mcphail> Fr0Gs: n.p. I used this for a while, but nowadays the Ubuntu Firefox is kept up to date.
[02:06] <HappyFool> KillerKiwi2005: what app is it?
[02:07] <sml> test
[02:07] <funkyHat> i got it topyli, i've put in 794
[02:07] <funkyHat> thanks :)
[02:07] <sml> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[02:08] <sml> Anyone see this error please? :(
[02:08] <ompaul> mirak, FUD Fear Uncertainty and Doubt is a method used by salesmen by providing misleading information. - like the get the facts campaign from microsoft -
[02:08] <KillerKiwi2005> LIT for converting ebooks to html
[02:08] <sml> when doing an dist-upgrade
[02:08] <funkyHat> topyli, they are all different:S
[02:08] <mirak> I am flooded by PV, what the hell is that ?
[02:08] <Seveas> sml, close all other instances of synaptic/apt-get/dpkg etc...
[02:08] <mirak> ompaul: get the facts ?
[02:08] <mirak> don't know that
[02:09] <KillerKiwi2005> its not in the repos cause the file is an ms format which is fair enough.. but i still want to read it
[02:09] <ompaul> mirak, read this please http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUD
[02:09] <mirak> ompaul: that's what polticians uses here lol
[02:09] <sml> Seveas ... thanks .. i looked all through #ps aux and there was nothing that I could see
[02:09] <dooglus> "get the facts" was a microsoft campaign where they proved once and for all that windows is better than linux (lower total cost of ownership and so on) by using rigged examples and lying a lot
[02:10] <sml> Sevea .. tried a reboot .. went straight to command line and even failed then.
[02:10] <ompaul> mirak, for the floods do this /umode +EC
[02:10] <topyli> funkyHat: must be an old howto :-(
[02:10] <Seveas> sml, then delete the lockfile
[02:10] <funkyHat> topyli, i found this one anyway: http://www.webservertalk.com/archive112-2004-1-80916.html
[02:11] <ompaul> dooglus, read the front page of www.linux.ie for a take on TCO there is a link to some article on linuxtoday.com which was rather good
[02:11] <topyli> funkyHat: that looks better
[02:11] <knesz> need a little help...how do I convince my ISA AWE64 to work in ubuntu?
[02:11] <mirak> ompaul: what does it do exactly ?
[02:11] <sml> Seveas ... what is the lockfile .. are you saying delete ... config.dat?
[02:11] <funkyHat> i'll test it, if it breaks i can always fix it with a livecd or something
[02:11] <ompaul> mirak, stops the spam from the bots
[02:11] <mirak> ok
[02:12] <Seveas> sml, nooo
[02:12] <sml> Seveas ... :)  huh  :) what is the lockfile ?
[02:13] <uthini> !modprobe
[02:13] <ubotu> uthini: I give up, what is it?
[02:13] <Drajka> Hey Guys. ;]  I'm a linux noob, having issues installing ubuntu. :[
[02:13] <topyli> funkyHat: you may lose the console, but you should still have X :)
[02:13] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, such as?
[02:13] <ompaul> uthini, you going to write that factoid?
[02:13] <sml> go for ti Drajka!
[02:13] <funkyHat> topyli, gnome terminal windows will still work anyway won't they?
[02:13] <Drajka> I'm actually... a first time.. linux... user.. so... yea... it's not fun having fsked up issues trying to install
[02:13] <dooglus> does anyone have the Sun Java VM working with Breezy?
[02:13] <Seveas> dooglus, sure
[02:14] <funkyHat> actually, not that that matters, i can still get at the file to edit
[02:14] <topyli> funkyHat: yes, they should
[02:14] <topyli> yep, you can
[02:14] <Drajka> Well.. I get to a point.. when I suppose it tries to initialize a GUI... after it selects and unpackages a whole bunch of files...
[02:14] <Drajka> that takes like 5-10 mins..
[02:14] <funkyHat> brb
[02:14] <Seveas> Drajka, that's normal
[02:14] <dooglus> Seveas: I had the JVM working up until a few days ago, but now it just hangs (and takes FireFox with it)
[02:14] <Drajka> it's just a colorful screen, obvious error. :/
[02:14] <Seveas> hmm
[02:14] <Drajka> after that point
[02:14] <Drajka> i tried it twice
[02:14] <Seveas> does it give an error message?
[02:14] <Drajka> er installing twice
[02:15] <Drajka> no, it just has a colorful screen........
[02:15] <Drajka> I don't really know how else to describe it
[02:15] <Drajka> then I reboot back into the linux install..
[02:15] <sml> Drajka .. could you explain what you meant by the 'lockfile'? please.
[02:15] <dooglus> Seveas: it hangs if I visit any page with an applet on it.  but also:  $ javaws
[02:15] <dooglus> Java Web Start splash screen process exiting .....
[02:15] <dooglus> Splash: sysCreateListenerSocket failed: No such file or directory
[02:15] <wickedpuppy> no words???
[02:15] <Seveas> if you happen to have a digicam, make a picture of it
[02:15] <Drajka> and it goes to another colorful screen.. and flashes
[02:15] <Seveas> dooglus, java -version
[02:15] <Drajka> sml... I didn't say anything about lockfiles
[02:15] <Drajka> o.O
[02:16] <uthini> !sound
[02:16] <ubotu> somebody said sound was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[02:16] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, what sort of video card you got?
[02:16] <ompaul> Drajka, when you say flashes how long does it flash for?
[02:16] <dooglus> java version "1.5.0_04"
[02:16] <Seveas> sml, no idea what the lock file is here, i've been looking for it
[02:16] <sml> Drajka ... eee sorry ..meant Seveas!
[02:16] <Drajka> it's about...
[02:16] <dooglus> Seveas: I just downloaded it 5 minutes ago from Sun
[02:16] <mirak> I have some questions about ubuntu64 bits
[02:16] <knesz> ubotu: thanks
[02:16] <ubotu> no worries, knesz
[02:16] <Seveas> dooglus, did you install java from a .deb file?
[02:16] <mirak> is it "stable"
[02:16] <mirak> ?
[02:16] <Drajka> it changes colors ..
[02:16] <dooglus> yup.  I used https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[02:16] <Drajka> one every second
[02:16] <Seveas> mirak, yes
[02:16] <Drajka> hatake_kakashi: i have..
[02:16] <Drajka> (GFX Card) NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT, (Display) 1024x768/32bit/75Hz
[02:17] <Seveas> dooglus, then remove & reinstall the package
[02:17] <mirak> Seveas: what do I lose going 64 bits ?
[02:17] <sml> Drajka .. sounds like a graphics/video problem .. obviously!
[02:17] <dooglus> Seveas: I have done.  Twice.
[02:17] <thoreauputic> Seveas: sorted out the signing, working on a wiki page (maybe it's a bit verbose... *grin* )
[02:17] <Seveas> mirak, flash, several codecs...
[02:17] <Drajka> Perhaps <.<
[02:17] <mirak> can I still use java and other 32 bits binaries ?
[02:17] <sml> Drajka ... ctrl-alt-backspace
[02:17] <mirak> Seveas: ah
[02:17] <Drajka> O.o
[02:17] <Seveas> mirak, in a chroot environment you can
[02:17] <Drajka> What does that do :p
[02:17] <dooglus> Seveas: removing the package removed about 6 other packages too
[02:17] <sml> Drajka ... then #sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:17] <Seveas> dooglus, odd
[02:17] <mirak> Seveas: doesn't the free version of flash can be used ?
[02:17] <Seveas> mirak, it can
[02:18] <Drajka> :s
[02:18] <Seveas> but gplflash is still no good
[02:18] <mirak> Seveas: there is no workaround with qemu emulator ?
[02:18] <Drajka> As I said earlier.... I'm a linux nub. =S
[02:18] <funkyHat> :D that is cool
[02:18] <sml> Drajka ... stops the video/graphics running and gets you back to real thing ... ie text
[02:18] <Drajka> I see...
[02:18] <Seveas> mirak, in a chroot environment you can use 32bit things
[02:18] <ompaul> Drajka, press ctrl+F2 then you will see a black screen with the word login on it - after that type >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << it will ask you for a password it is your password - when this is done it may be okay
[02:18] <dooglus> Seveas: it said: The following packages will be REMOVED:
[02:18] <dooglus>   bsh libgnujaxp-java libjaxp1.2-java libxalan2-java libxerces2-java
[02:18] <dooglus>   libxt-java sun-j2re1.5
[02:18] <funkyHat> hmm.... clamav is protesting that it is out of date (the engine not the database)
[02:18] <dooglus> (so I let it)
[02:18] <Seveas> dooglus, hmm, you have a free java vm installed too
[02:19] <Seveas> that may have fubar'ed things
[02:19] <dooglus> I do?  What's the package name?
[02:19] <ompaul> Drajka, ehh login then you can do what I suggested
[02:19] <mirak> Seveas: and is there a significant performance gain ?
[02:19] <Seveas> no
[02:19] <ompaul> Drajka, this is providing you have rebooted and the install CD is no longer in the machine
[02:19] <mirak> Seveas: no ?
[02:19] <mirak> ah
[02:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: may I pm you for a minute ?
[02:20] <Drajka> k.. I'll try it :(
[02:20] <Drajka> but..
[02:20] <Drajka> even after I do that
[02:20] <sml> Drajka ... or just just reboot and select the option for the 'safe' install .. get to the command line ... type #sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerserver-xorg
[02:20] <Drajka> I won't know what to do afterwards
[02:20] <ompaul> thoreauputic, yeap
[02:20] <Drajka> I'm a 100% nub. :/ Sooooo..... I really don't know what to expect.
[02:20] <dooglus> Seveas: if I try to remove "libgcj6", it tries to take "gnome-common" with it...
[02:21] <Seveas> dooglus, breezy?
[02:21] <dooglus> Seveas: yes.
[02:21] <Drajka> I'll be back.. :(
[02:21] <hardw1re> windows user >_<
[02:21] <Xappe> forums are down again?
[02:21] <Seveas> dooglus, oh... breezy has changed java policy, don't know the details of it...
[02:21] <hardw1re> yeah i was wondering the same thing about the forums
[02:22] <dooglus> Seveas: do you have libgcj6 installed?
[02:22] <sml> Anybody seen this error before  ...... debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[02:22] <mirak> is breezy getting more stable now ?
[02:22] <dooglus> 14:13 < dooglus> does anyone have the Sun Java VM working with Breezy?
[02:22] <dooglus> 14:14 <@Seveas> dooglus, sure
[02:22] <dooglus> ^-- I thought that meant you had Sun's Java VM working with Breezy.  No?
[02:23] <Seveas> dooglus, misread that :/
[02:23] <jnc> interesting.
[02:23] <hatake_kakashi> sml: do lsof in console
[02:23] <Seveas> missed the breezy part
[02:23] <dooglus> heh.  ok.
[02:23] <sml> Hatake .. what does that do?
[02:23] <frans-th> hi all
[02:23] <frans-th>  i want to install mc, can help?
[02:23] <frans-th> you said that is it not good to get it from debian repo.
[02:23] <frans-th> so, any tips?
[02:23] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install mc
[02:23] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install mc
[02:24] <hatake_kakashi> sml: lists processes and files to which they use.. and few more other information, 'man lsof' if you want exact details
[02:24] <Seveas> !info mc
[02:24] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[02:24] <frans-th> !info mc?
[02:24] <deFrysk> no more tips I guess
[02:24] <Seveas> it's in universe, enable universe
[02:24] <Seveas> !repos
[02:24] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:24] <frans-th> ok
[02:24] <sml> hatake ... ahhh ok .. cool
[02:24] <deFrysk> mc should be in main i think
[02:24] <_martin_> Question: When i choose logout in the KDE startmenu and after that one of the three options (log out, restart,shutdown) nothing happens. Only when i do this a second time the action is performed. Any idea what's wrong?
[02:24] <frans-th> i use synaptic
[02:24] <frans-th> there is no mc in the pacakge list
[02:24] <hatake_kakashi> sml, maybe.. you should do lsof| grep config.dat
[02:24] <hardw1re> anyone got the repos's for the amd64 users?
[02:25] <dooglus> mc is in universe
[02:25] <Napalmz> i just installed UBUNTU(server) and want to know how can i get a ANSI configure dialog like debian when installing new packages, exemple installing SSHD and asking me question in a dialog windows?
[02:25] <frans-th> how to add universe?
[02:25] <deFrysk> !repositories
[02:25] <ubotu> repositories is probably probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:25] <hatake_kakashi> hardw1re, you mean ubuntu repos for amd64?
[02:25] <hardw1re> yeah
[02:25] <Seveas> Napalmz, aptitude
[02:25] <hardw1re> the ones that are on the forum
[02:25] <Napalmz> Seveas no other solution?
[02:25] <Napalmz> like apt-get install ssh and a ansi dialog windows pop-up?
[02:26] <Seveas> sure
[02:26] <frans-th> oh, i must uncomment the sources.lst first :P
[02:26] <onkarshinde> How do i enable sound for my internal modem on HP laptop?
[02:26] <hatake_kakashi> hardw1re, try what ubotu mentioned
[02:26] <Seveas> that's debconf, used in all packages needing answers
[02:26] <sml> lsof |grep config.dat
[02:26] <hardw1re> yeah there on the forum... but forum is down so i cant get the url's for them lol
[02:26] <sml> ok .. thanks hatake
[02:27] <nessmuk> I'm happy with Ubuntu, but find that Evolution and FireFox tend to take up a _lot_ of ram if left open. So I decided to compare by loading konqueror and kmail....but I'm wondering if this can make things flaky...mixing kde in with gnome?
[02:27] <hatake_kakashi> sml: that should narrow the long list down.. *hopefully*
[02:27] <frans-th> onkarshinde: is your modem sl link?
[02:28] <onkarshinde> frans-th: Yes. I have installed custom version of Ubuntu for HP laptop
[02:28] <hardw1re> i need the java runtime environment :(
[02:28] <hatake_kakashi> nessmuk, interesting question.. I guess it really depends on how its made.. rh does that cross-windowmanager sort of thing
[02:28] <hatake_kakashi> hardw1re, you can get that from sun website
[02:28] <sml> hatake ... yes .. thanks ..i learnt something :)  ... it is 'frontend' but it keeps coming back :(
[02:29] <frans-th> onkarshinde: go to ubuntuguide.org, i got the way to solve my sl modem :) work here
[02:29] <Seveas> hardw1re, grab a deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:29] <Seveas> frans-th, ubuntuguide is bad
[02:29] <Seveas> !tell frans-th about ubuntuguide
[02:29] <frans-th> SEveas: where is the good stuff?
[02:29] <nessmuk> well...the PS/2 mouse port stopped working, and some apps got flaky....pan, and the konq would quit
[02:29] <benkong2> ping
[02:29] <Seveas> frans-th, wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:30] <frans-th> Seveas, ok ok :)
[02:30] <frans-th> sorry
[02:30] <zappaap> anyone played .rm files in ubuntu?
[02:30] <frans-th> is it possible for me to copy the wiki to my notebook, so i can read it localy, internet here is bad...
[02:30] <paulproteus> !realplayer
[02:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:31] <zappaap> !realplayer
[02:31] <deFrysk> zappaap, you can take that as a yes
[02:31] <onkarshinde> frans-th: My modem is working. Just that I can't hear sound while it dials up
[02:31] <paulproteus> frans-th: wget --mirror https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[02:31] <hardw1re> Seveas: its asking for a password
[02:31] <frans-th> paul: how r u? receive my email?
[02:31] <frans-th> paul: i am applying become indonesian ubuntu supporter now :P
[02:31] <benkong2> can someone tell me how to stop auto eth0 and auto wlan0 from being rewritten to my /etc/network.interfaces? My laptop waits for ever to boot when I have no connection.
[02:31] <frans-th> jdub help me :P
[02:31] <hatake_kakashi> nessmuk, hmm it could be different buikd or the two different wm are not able to use each other's apps
[02:31] <sml> does anybody know how to kill 'frontend' app?
[02:32] <Seveas> hardw1re, in private message
[02:32] <deFrysk> sml, killall <app>
[02:32] <frans-th> Seveas: cannot help? i am bad in this case :P
[02:32] <paulproteus> frans-th: I received it, but I haven't had time to reply.
[02:33] <zappaap> what is PPC?
[02:33] <benkong2> what's the difference in +e that I get when I log onto freenode and +E?
[02:33] <hatake_kakashi> zappaap, from where?
[02:33] <deFrysk> power pc
[02:33] <Seveas> !ppc
[02:33] <ubotu> methinks ppc is PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer then Intel.
[02:34] <frans-th> aha, :) the mc is in my synaptic now :)
[02:34] <hatake_kakashi> benkong2, +e is registered nick.. +E is to prevent getting spams (I think)
[02:34] <topyli> heh. ubotu is taking sides now :)
[02:34] <benkong2> hatake_kakashi; thanks \\:-)
[02:34] <Determinist> actually, it is nicer than intel, but too expensive for most.
[02:34] <sml> deFrysk ... that didnt work .. it keeps coming back!!
[02:35] <benkong2> ppc getting cheaper now
[02:35] <hatake_kakashi> PPC in hardware-wise.. is actually somewhat quite powerful.. but expensive, and lack of 'hardware market'
[02:35] <deFrysk> sml, what app ?
[02:35] <sml> deFrysk .. frontend
[02:35] <hatake_kakashi> benkong2, np
[02:35] <deFrysk> what frontend ?
[02:35] <sml> that is the process ?
[02:35] <Determinist> still dont think we'll see intel announcing their special flavour PPC CPUs anytime soon lol
[02:35] <benkong2> anybody help on wireless config problem?
[02:35] <deFrysk> ?
[02:35] <benkong2> Determinist; next year
[02:35] <Determinist> benkong2: explain please
[02:36] <benkong2> Apple will have intel based pc out next year
[02:36] <hatake_kakashi> Determinist, Mac OSX is going to be running on PC platforms somewhat soon
[02:36] <sml> deFrysk ... i am trying to do a dist-upgrade .. but a config.dat file is being used by another app. the app is 'frontend'
[02:36] <Determinist> ohh, yes, i know that. i was talking about Intel making PPC CPUs , not OSX running on intel X86
[02:36] <zenlunatic> hatake_kakashi: it already is if you know where to get it
[02:36] <hatake_kakashi> there is a thing called 'open darwin' already, which is based off Mac OSX 10.3 I think
[02:37] <sml> hatake .. i think versions of x86 mac osx are out now for developers
[02:37] <benkong2> Determinist; look here http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4612951.stm
[02:37] <hatake_kakashi> Determinist, I doubt it :) plus intel is not that great ;)
[02:37] <deFrysk> sml, not sure what u mean but u have synaptic running ?
[02:37] <zenlunatic> sml: they have hacked versions
[02:37] <Determinist> hatake_kakashi: ohh, i agree
[02:37] <hatake_kakashi> sml: yeah the Panther one.. darwin is already out for i686
[02:38] <sml> deFrysk .. no .. already checked .. even tried a fresh reboot and touched nothing .. logged in a command line and tried the dist-upgrade and failed :(
[02:38] <deFrysk> sml, try apt-get -f install
[02:38] <deFrysk> sudo  apt-get -f install
[02:39] <sml> Need to get 0B of archives.
[02:39] <sml> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[02:39] <sml> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[02:39] <sml> :(
[02:39] <hatake_kakashi> sml, did you find out which process was using config.dat?
[02:39] <sml> root@ubuntu:/home/sml # lsof | grep config.dat
[02:39] <sml> frontend  9290       root    4rW     REG        3,1   65296    4146106 /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[02:39] <deFrysk> sml, is the updater running ?
[02:39] <Seveas> sml, ls -la /var/cache/debconf/
[02:40] <Seveas> put it on the pastebin
[02:40] <sml> updater .. you mean synaptic ?
[02:40] <deFrysk> sml, listen to Seveas
[02:40] <deFrysk> ignore me for now
[02:40] <Drajka> pfff
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> sml: and killing 'frontend' still keeps spawning back? :/ it could be a daemon garding it
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> s/garding/guarding
[02:41] <sml> root@ubuntu:/home/sml # ls -la /var/cache/debconf/
[02:41] <sml> total 3844
[02:41] <sml> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    4096 2005-08-27 22:04 .
[02:41] <sml> drwxr-xr-x  9 root root    4096 2005-08-26 05:50 ..
[02:41] <sml> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   65296 2005-08-27 22:04 config.dat
[02:41] <sml> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   65296 2005-08-27 22:04 config.dat-old
[02:41] <sml> -rw-------  1 root root     368 2005-08-27 22:04 passwords.dat
[02:41] <sml> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1887097 2005-08-27 22:04 templates.dat
[02:41] <sml> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 1887097 2005-08-27 22:04 templates.dat-old
[02:41] <HappyFool> pastebin, dude
[02:41] <hatake_kakashi> o.O
[02:41] <deFrysk> sml, thats not pastebin
[02:41] <deFrysk> thats flooding sml
[02:41] <Drajka> well it gave me a login screen, but somehow I can't remember my info? i don't understand. =|
[02:41] <sml> eee .. sorry what is pastebin?
[02:41] <Drajka> I'm pretty sure I named it "w00t"
[02:41] <hatake_kakashi> from chantopic 'Do NOT paste in here; use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl'
[02:41] <deFrysk> sml, /topic
[02:41] <Drajka> So it says w00t login: and I can't remember what the hell it is
[02:42] <deFrysk> Seveas, you are tough on the poor guy
[02:42] <Seveas> bad luck
[02:42] <Seveas> i'm touchy today with all the spammers
[02:42] <Napalmz> how to APT-GET and optimize using SOURCE?
[02:42] <hardw1re> :/
[02:42] <Drajka> <.<
[02:42] <hardw1re> i have a hangover :| :P
[02:42] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, what do you mean you cannot remember info? you don't know your login? at setup you were prompted with user and password for that user
[02:42] <ekimus> anyone knows of an emacs that looks a bit nicer? (using gtk widgets or qt won't matter)
[02:42] <Drajka> i know =/
[02:42] <deFrysk> Napalmz, the standard packages are perfectly optimized in general
[02:43] <Drajka> I'm like.. 99% sure I put in the right info at the login screen
[02:43] <Drajka> not only that though
[02:43] <Drajka> but i did that stuf fyou guys told me to do
[02:43] <Drajka> i tried to set up my gfx info
[02:43] <HappyFool> 'perfectly optimized', see gentoo ;)
[02:43] <Napalmz> yeah yeah
[02:43] <deFrysk> HappyFool, :)
[02:43] <Napalmz> i know something like APT-BUILD
[02:43] <Napalmz> dunno if it is good
[02:43] <Napalmz> though
[02:43] <HappyFool> ekimus: i use whatever normal emacs is provided by ubuntu; maybe you could try xemacs
[02:43] <Drajka> but when i got to the login screen it came up with a window that said I cannot initialize X Server with this info" or something
[02:43] <Drajka> <.<
[02:43] <hatake_kakashi> HappyFool, lol.. that is soo wrong :) it only optimises the dependency tree
[02:44] <Drajka> Or.. Could not initialize the graphics server.. Hell I don't know
[02:44] <deFrysk> Napalmz, its good but usually not needed
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, ok, you need to get the latest drivers from nvidia for linux
[02:44] <Drajka> .....
[02:44] <Drajka> I can't even log in dude
[02:44] <Drajka> =/
[02:45] <Drajka> I've never even been logged into linux. Ever. In my life. Let alone be able to install drivers.
[02:45] <Drajka> :o
[02:45] <Napalmz> and if i desperatly NEED and DREAM and WANT and LIVE only for SOURCES using "APT" , then, what is my solution? :)
[02:45] <haakonn> is www.ubuntuforums.org down or is it just me?
[02:45] <ekimus> HappyFool: i use it too. but it would be cool if there was some nicer looking version than (x)emacs
[02:45] <deFrysk> Napalmz, fakeroot apt-get source -b <package> --target=<arch>
[02:45] <nlitement> what happened to the "normal" ubuntu? :( spambot? :( can't it be glined?
[02:46] <deFrysk> Napalmz, to squeeze out the 0.00001% optimazation
[02:46] <Drajka> meh
[02:46] <Seveas> nlitement, spambot proxynet
[02:46] <Napalmz> deFrysk alright! ;)
[02:46] <nlitement> why? >:I
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, there should be guides on how to get the nvidia drivers working on linux
[02:46] <Seveas> freenode staff is killing them, but there are a lot of them...
[02:46] <HappyFool> ekimus: sorry, not sure. i think emacs22 might support gtk or something, but i don't know
[02:46] <Drajka> ;/
[02:47] <ekimus> HappyFool: time will show :)
[02:47] <Drajka> for a first time linux user.. I"m certainly not seeing linux in a loving light :[
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, well, nothing in life is perfect
[02:47] <HappyFool> ekimus: emacs22 being as yet unreleased. dooglus was compiling cvs emacs, maybe he knows
[02:47] <Drajka> There's a difference between perfection and not working at all
[02:47] <Drajka> :P
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> "Built by humans, for humans".. the old saying is always correct
[02:48] <deFrysk> sometimes its perfection that prevents things from working
[02:48] <Ng> Drajka: do you know what kind of graphics card you have?
[02:48] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, well, ubuntu cannot cover every single files
[02:48] <Drajka> O.o
[02:48] <Drajka> Ng, I'm a linux n00b, not a computer n00b ;)
[02:48] <Drajka> yep
[02:48] <Drajka> (GFX Card) NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT, (Display) 1024x768/32bit/75Hz
[02:49] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, one has to be patient in everything :p show your patience and persistence in it and you will overcome the problem
[02:49] <deFrysk> re sml be careful nxt time :D
[02:50] <HappyFool> Drajka: what have you done so far? just installed from CD?
[02:50] <Ng> Drajka: ok, well when X has failed to load you should still be able to get console logins, which will let you fix this if you want to? It could be that the 6600 is too new for the basic nvidia driver included
[02:50] <dwerf> am i save from spambot attacks now?
[02:50] <hatake_kakashi> Ng: that's what I would have thought
[02:50] <Drajka> hrm... I suppose.
[02:50] <dwerf> safe, i mean
[02:50] <Seveas> dwerf, if you do /umode +CE
[02:50] <Drajka> I thought I knew what I put in though
[02:51] <Drajka> I only have 2 passwords that I use for everything
[02:51] <Ng> Drajka: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - read that - the only difference is that you can't use synaptic, so to install nvidia-glx you need to log in to the console and do "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[02:51] <Drajka> I don't understand what it's asking at the login prompt though.. it says "w00t login:" I'm pretty sure I named it w00t.. so.. what is it asking me to input?
[02:51] <haakonn> yes, www.ubuntuforums.org is down :(
[02:51] <deFrysk> Drajka, and for the rest ?
[02:51] <HappyFool> Drajka: your username
[02:51] <deFrysk> haakonn, thats a good thing
[02:51] <Drajka> .. which would be w00t?
[02:51] <HappyFool> Drajka: then press enter, and then your password
[02:51] <haakonn> deFrysk: how so?
[02:51] <HappyFool> Drajka: what user did you create during install?
[02:52] <Drajka> I don't know.. I'm pretty sure it was w00t.
[02:52] <Drajka> ;/
[02:52] <haakonn> i wanted to see if i got any replies on my "help, my system freezes randomly" post
[02:52] <HappyFool> Drajka: try 'w00t' then -- you can't break it ;)
[02:52] <dwerf> seveas, are these attacks tracable?
[02:52] <Drajka> I've come pretty close to breaking my keyboard in the past.. ;)
[02:52] <Seveas> dwerf, yes, but it's useless
[02:52] <Ng> Drajka: you can find out by rebooting into recovery mode and running "grep 1000 /etc/passwd" (the first part is the username), then you can reset the password for it with "passwd yourusername"
[02:52] <kevor_> wtf is going on :)
[02:52] <Seveas> it's a loarge drone-net
[02:52] <Drajka> ok
[02:53] <sml1> how did you go Drajka?
[02:53] <dwerf> seveas, i don't know what that is, but it sounds like the matrix...
[02:53] <Seveas> dwerf, :)
[02:53] <Drajka> what first part?
[02:53] <Drajka> <.<
[02:53] <kevor> drone-nets are cute
[02:53] <HappyFool> part before the first colon
[02:53] <Ng> Drajka: hmm?
[02:53] <Ng> ah, yeah
[02:54] <Drajka> O.o
[02:54] <Ng> Drajka: It'll look like this: cmsj:x:1000:1000:Chris Jones,,,:/home/cmsj:/bin/bash
[02:54] <Ng> in that case my username is cmsj
[02:54] <sml1> I pastebinned .. the #ls -la /var/cache/debconf/
[02:54] <Drajka> ....... What if mine dosen't have all that junk in it =P
[02:54] <kemik> Ng:  thats good, now all i need todo is figure out your password ;)
[02:54] <sml1> any ideas whereto from here :) ?
[02:54] <Ng> Drajka: it should do
[02:54] <Ng> kemik: good luck ;)
[02:54] <Ng> kemik: and get a key :)
[02:55] <kemik> ick
[02:55] <kemik> .)
[02:55] <Drajka> k.. i'm going to try this.
[02:55] <HappyFool> sml1: the url on the pastebin?
[02:55] <Ng> Drajka: good luck :)
[02:55] <Drajka> I'm sure I'll be back in 10 minutes, with more complaints
[02:55] <Drajka> =]  Thanks guys
[02:55] <Ng> Drajka: I'm expecting success ;)
[02:55] <sml1> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1651
[02:56] <sml1> Thanks Seveas ... I am a newbie on irc! sorry
[02:57] <HappyFool> according to this http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=frontend&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386 frontend is part of debconf, though I don't seem to have it
[02:57] <HappyFool> oh, i do
[02:58] <sml1> now .. how can i stop it?
[02:59] <HappyFool> you tried 'sudo pkill frontend' ? i just wonder if that'll cleanup the lockfile...
[02:59] <sml1> QUOTE ... "Installing this package is rather dangerous now. It will break debconf. You have been warned!"
[02:59] <HappyFool> which package?
[02:59] <sml1> that was the frontend notes!
[02:59] <HappyFool> oh, that's cdebconf
[03:00] <HappyFool> i don't what it is, but it's probably not relevant (unless you *have* installed it)
[03:00] <linukso> Hi! Anyone here using ubuntu and bluetooth
[03:00] <jhaa> me
[03:00] <frans-th> anyone have try ubuntu on pentium II?
[03:00] <debiz> me too ;-)
[03:00] <HappyFool> sml1: have you tried the pkill command?
[03:00] <sml1> HappyFool - that command didn;t work ... frontend comes back
[03:01] <dwerf> one silly question: where can i see a list of all my installed executable programs?
[03:01] <sml1> HappyFool - ill try deleting frontend!
[03:01] <HappyFool> sml1: no
[03:02] <HappyFool> sml1: let's try to find out what the parent process is
[03:02] <deFrysk> dwerf, /usr/lbin
[03:02] <debiz> dwerf: /usr/bin ??
[03:02] <hatake_kakashi> dwerf, imo.. they are scattered throughout the different directories.. such as /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin
[03:02] <deFrysk> dwerf, /usr/bin/
[03:02] <HappyFool> sml1: i'm busy scanning 'man ps' to see how to do that...
[03:02] <deFrysk>  /opt/
[03:02] <sml1> ok
[03:02] <hatake_kakashi> sml1, its some daemon or something that is keeping it alive
[03:02] <dwerf> ok thanx
[03:02] <sml1> hmm .. i am learning at least :)
[03:02] <Seveas> find / -perm +x
[03:03] <Seveas> that should find executables :)
[03:03] <deFrysk> sml1, did you install anything before this all happened to you ?
[03:03] <Napalmz> how to use the debian packages with ubuntu?
[03:03] <Napalmz> i mean
[03:03] <hatake_kakashi> Seveas, I wonder if locate can do something similar to that :)
[03:03] <Seveas> hatake_kakashi, afaik not
[03:03] <Napalmz> how to use the debian packages with ubuntu? -exemple: a line to add in sourceslist
[03:03] <kemik> Napalmz:  you probably dont want to do that
[03:03] <Seveas> indeed
[03:04] <Seveas> it's a bad idea to mix
[03:04] <deFrysk> Napalmz, read the docs in the wiki
[03:04] <sml1> deFrysk .. yes .. I just did the breezy updates .. but didnt have all the package downloaded .. a few of them errored and did not download. i installed the ones I had!
[03:04] <deFrysk> about repositories
[03:04] <Napalmz> okay!
[03:04] <hatake_kakashi> Seveas, bah! thanks, well, that kinda makes hard disk busy for a bit/while
[03:04] <sml1> deFrysk .. then went back to a new repo and finished the rest!
[03:04] <deFrysk> sml1, so you forced thins a bit
[03:04] <kemik> Napalmz:  adding debian repos may very well (and most likely) break your system
[03:04] <Seveas> hatake_kakashi, *g*
[03:05] <chrissturm> hey guys, anyone using ubuntu with a vodaphone umts card?
[03:05] <sml1> deFrysk .. well only by installed 80 packages and not the 100 full updates. there were no caution messages
[03:05] <deFrysk> Napalmz, and breaking your system would brak your heart :(
[03:05] <deFrysk> breake
[03:06] <HappyFool> sml1: try 'ps -p $(pgrep frontend) -f'
[03:06] <deFrysk> sml1, still it broke your updatesystem so it was not all that good ;)
[03:07] <sml1> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1652
[03:07] <dooglus> ha.  after re-downloading Java, reinstalling in several times, trying everything I could think of... you know what fixed it in the end?  A REBOOT!  What is this I'm running, Windows???
[03:08] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus, what problem are you having?
[03:08] <sml1> deFrysk .. yes it was a bit disapponting .. particularly after spending weeks geting my wlan card working and finally things were perfect!!
[03:08] <HappyFool> sml1: and    'ps -p 9787 -f' ?
[03:08] <HappyFool> sml1: 9787 is what is starting these frontend processes
[03:09] <sml1> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1653
[03:09] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: firefox was hanging whenever I visited a page with a java applet on it, and azureus was hanging when I tried to start it.  This is on breezy.  I fixed it by reinstalling the JVM from Sun and rebooting.
[03:09] <sml1> ahh ok
[03:09] <HappyFool> sml1: hmm
[03:09] <HappyFool> sml1: where is base-config running?
[03:10] <HappyFool> sml1: anyway, maybe you can kill it, but it sounds like your system is in a precarious state overall
[03:10] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus, hmm that's odd.. 5.04 release.. I used the jre and it worked after I did exactly what the sun website mentioned.. well similar but yeah it worked
[03:10] <sml1> HappyFool .. base-config .. not sure ?
[03:11] <Drajka> k o.O I got the ubuntu login screen up
[03:11] <Drajka> but i still can't login
[03:11] <Drajka> =|
[03:11] <sml1> HappyFool ... it was only a fresh install the other day .. this doesn't sound easy to fix .. so maybe a reinstall is the best option!
[03:11] <kemik> dooglus:  breezy isnt stable so you'll have to expect more bugs
[03:11] <Drajka> I don't know the info >.<!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:11] <Drajka> :x
[03:11] <kemik> Drajka:  well that's not good
[03:11] <HappyFool> sml1: indeed. i'd recommend sticking with hoary for the moment
[03:11] <Drajka> I'm pretty sure my pass is kthx
[03:11] <Paprika> I have a problem. I didn't got a chance to set the root password on install. What can I do?
[03:11] <kemik> Drajka:  follow NG's advice on how to reset the password
[03:11] <HappyFool> sml1: if you like, try 'sudo pkill base-config'
[03:11] <Drajka> because i did the command.. and that's wh at cmae up
[03:11] <Drajka> It's not hte pass
[03:11] <Drajka> I don't know the user name
[03:12] <Drajka> =|
[03:12] <sml1> HappyFool .. yes I would have .. but I had problems with it freezing on start-up that I couldn't resolve :(
[03:12] <hatake_kakashi> Paprika, you can use sudo bash
[03:12] <Seveas> Drajka, reboot into recovery mode
[03:12] <kemik> that's shown in plaintext in youer /etc/passw
[03:12] <kemik> that's shown in plaintext in youer /etc/passwd
[03:12] <Ng> Drajka: you can find out by rebooting into recovery mode and running "grep 1000 /etc/passwd" (the first part is the username), then you can reset the password for it with "passwd yourusername"
[03:12] <sml1> HappyFool .. at least breezy didnt have the start-up problem :)
[03:12] <hatake_kakashi> Paprika, btw, I don't think there is a root password according to the documentation
[03:12] <Seveas> Drajka, then hit enter to login as root and type: cat /etc/passwd | grep 1000
[03:12] <Seveas> that will show you your username
[03:12] <Drajka> o.O ok
[03:12] <hatake_kakashi> Paprika, and you use your login password, that will work
[03:12] <HappyFool> sml1: ok, can't help you there, sorry
[03:13] <sml1> HappyFool .. ok here goes with that command!! hopefully I will still be here :)
[03:13] <spare\sov> hey
[03:13] <Drajka> kk :x
[03:13] <Paprika> hatake_kakashi: Thanks!
[03:13] <hatake_kakashi> Paprika, np
[03:14] <sml1> HappyFool ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1654
[03:14] <sml1> no good :(
[03:14] <SpareXX> if i've choosed to delete the slave disk first in the install, does it install on the slave disk then? i deleted the slave(you know what i mean) and now it's installing, is it installing on the slave disk then?
[03:15] <sml1> HappyFool .. do you think I should reinstall ?
[03:15] <kemik> SpareXX:  if you choose to put / on that drive then yes
[03:15] <HappyFool> sml1: i don't know; probably easiest
[03:15] <deFrysk> sml1, if you have a hard time cofigging your hoary better not to upgrade te breezy (yet)
[03:17] <sml1> deFrysk ... I was planning to stick with hoary .. but it was freezing on start-up with my notebook. luckily breezy solved that problem.
[03:17] <lightning_manu> hi
[03:17] <deFrysk> sml1, then make sure to run the updates properly without forcing anything
[03:18] <sml1> deFrysk ... yes .. for sure .. lesson learnt  .. although I am blaming the mirror  - mirror.pacific.net.au
[03:19] <SpareXX> kemik: ok, thanks
[03:19] <deFrysk> sml1, any probs with any repo , just ask here or check the wiki
[03:19] <SpareXX> kemik: but i should install it on the master disk right?
[03:19] <deFrysk> sml1, and stay away from ubuntuguide ;)
[03:20] <kemik> SpareXX:  no, you should install it where you have freespace
[03:20] <kemik> !ubuntuguide
[03:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[03:21] <Drajka> :O
[03:21] <kemik> success Drajka ?
[03:21] <sml1> deFrysk .. ok .. i would like to ask ... why would I have been able to downoad only 80 out of the approx 100 updates on that mirror - was it some sort of syncing problem?
[03:21] <uthini> wooohoooo
[03:21] <uthini> i got sound to work!
[03:21] <uthini> i'm leet :P
[03:21] <Drajka> I'm on freaking linux =S
[03:21] <Drajka> lol
[03:21] <uthini> erm does this server have ajoin?
[03:21] <kemik> Drajka:  next time, remember your username/password ;)
[03:22] <deFrysk> sml1, could be the unstable repo gets synced regurarly (often)
[03:22] <Seveas> uthini, no
[03:22] <Drajka> well... it was kthx/kthx
[03:22] <Drajka> LOL
[03:22] <Drajka> I don't even know where w00t came from, though I'm sure I typed it in somewhere.
[03:22] <Drajka> It's something I'd do. :)
[03:22] <sml1> deFrysk .. so I should have just waited for a bit then?
[03:22] <deFrysk> sml1, if its stops downloading working , just apt-get update and then again apt0get upgrade
[03:23] <deFrysk> or dist-upgrade
[03:23] <sml1> deFrysk .. yes i tried all that for 5 mins, then bailed and looked for a new mirror
[03:23] <Drajka> oops lol
[03:24] <sml1> deFrysk .. anyway i had better get into my reinstall :(
[03:24] <Drajka> it seems to take a long time to resolve the irc srver in linuz..
[03:24] <Drajka> <.<
[03:24] <deFrysk> sml1, just use apt-get and dont install the downloaded packages manually
[03:24] <Drajka> maybe I'm just paranoid.. >.>
[03:24] <Seveas> Drajka, install pidentd if you want to connect to freenode faster
[03:24] <deFrysk> sml1, and have some patience of and on
[03:24] <Seveas> and if you're behind a NAT router, forward port 113 to your machine
[03:24] <Drajka> Oh, I see, and how does a noob install that. :] 
[03:24] <Drajka> I'm installing ubuntu updates now..
[03:25] <DjKritical> When you tell synaptic to "remove completely" is that the same as apt-get --purge?
[03:25] <Seveas> DjKritical, yes
[03:25] <sml1> deFrysk .. i thought synaptic would have highlighted any dependcy problems though? it didn't, so i just pressed on and installed!
[03:25] <Seveas> Drajka, system -> admin -> synaptic
[03:25] <Seveas> search for pidentd in there
[03:26] <Drajka> stupid xchat.. :[
[03:26] <deFrysk> sml1, with synaptic ?
[03:26] <Drajka> Dosen't understand /server -m commands.
[03:26] <Drajka> And I know there's never going to be any mIRC support for Linux.. so...
[03:27] <rob^> pfft
[03:27] <sml1> deFrysk .. yes.
[03:27] <SpareXX> should i install some antivirus and firewall? Or don't i need that?
[03:27] <deFrysk> and did you wait till synaptic was fully done ?
[03:27] <rob^> if you *really* want mirc use wine
[03:27] <kemik> Drajka:  xchat has multipleserver support
[03:27] <kemik> Drajka:  and mirc can be run using Wine
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, short answer no, long answer yes
[03:28] <hatake_kakashi> Drajka, Ctrl+T will open new server tab
[03:28] <hatake_kakashi> SpareXX, you should configure firewall, yes.. antivirus? maybe if you really wanted to
[03:29] <sml1> deFrysk ... if you are interested .. the synaptic history to death is here .... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1655
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[03:30] <Drajka> Seveas, pastebin. ;) Just kidding.. really.. I'm kidding.. don't kick me :s
[03:30] <Seveas> damnit!
[03:30] <Seveas> (sorry folks)
[03:30] <hatake_kakashi> o.O
[03:30] <chrissturm> that was funny
[03:30] <funkyHat> lmao @ Drajka
[03:31] <SpareXX> hatake_kakashi which firewall do you recommend?
[03:31] <Seveas> sorry for the floofing folks, just trying to combat spambots
[03:31] <hatake_kakashi> SpareXX, by default literally every linux distribution has a firewall called iptables
[03:31] <DonL> Seveas, I'm glad you're doing that, but I'm still trying to figure out what happened
[03:31] <deFrysk> sml1, honestly , to bad it did not work but it seems to me that its just the unstable version is the reason it did not work
[03:31] <nalioth_zZz> Seveas: shouldnt you better send your info to the overlords in freenode, so they can globally kill them?
[03:32] <hatake_kakashi> SpareXX, but doing it by hand is a pain and unless if you really want to have fun with the messing around, otherwise I'm sure there are iptable scripts that you can get
[03:32] <Seveas> nalioth_zZz, they are doing so, but I want to get the -r removed asap
[03:32] <sml1> deFrysk ... no worries .. what is your involvement with ubuntu anyway? just curious?
[03:32] <Drajka> I can't believe I"m on linux ;)
[03:32] <Drajka> lol
[03:32] <tombs> hi ppl
[03:32] <chrissturm> hmm, why do i get SSL not supported when trying to check out from a https url with svn?
[03:33] <Drajka> It's very shiny.
[03:33] <liquidfire> Oo?
[03:33] <deFrysk> sml1, interest , thats all , I like the distro and open source is about giving something back to the comunity
[03:34] <Seveas> [ATTENTION]  +r mode has been removed. If anybody gets private message spam, LET ME KNOW!
[03:34] <Paradoxx> hello all...
[03:34] <hatake_kakashi> Paradoxx, hi
[03:34] <Paradoxx> a little help needed
[03:34] <hatake_kakashi> Paradoxx, ?
[03:34] <Paradoxx> when i update, it updates all my packages except 5..
[03:34] <dooglus> what is +r mode?
[03:34] <nalioth> or you guys can register your nicks, and then set +E on yourselves (+E keeps unregged users from PMing you)
[03:34] <Paradoxx> that is, gaim, gimp, firefox and 2 others
[03:34] <deFrysk> Seveas, does that mean we can all pm you again Seveas  ? ;p
[03:35] <Seveas> deFrysk, good call, I'll -CE myself
[03:35] <deFrysk> :D
[03:35] <sml1> deFrysk  ... ok .. thanks for your help anyway ... luckily the installs are quick and easy!
[03:35] <Paradoxx> it says that it is hold back those 5 apps..
[03:35] <Paradoxx> how can i correct this?
[03:35] <funkyHat> dooglus, registered nicks only
[03:35] <HappyFool> Paradoxx: what command are you running?
[03:35] <dooglus> how long does it take to register a new nick?  less than a second?
[03:35] <Drajka> Thanks guys.
[03:35] <Paradoxx> from synaptic
[03:36] <liquidfire> Can I use gnomebaker for burning ripped dvd's?
[03:36] <nalioth> Paradoxx: if you are running official ubuntu repos, then there is a reason known to the devs why you arent getting your things
[03:36] <liquidfire> I don't see any videomode option in it
[03:36] <liquidfire> or do i need to use the data mode option
[03:36] <Paradoxx> and when i try todo them manually i get the same thing...
[03:36] <nalioth> liquidfire: i find k3b to work best of the -burners
[03:36] <deFrysk> Paradoxx, holding back packs means its missing deps so they cannot be installed
[03:36] <Paradoxx> eg, apt-get dist-upgrade gaim
[03:36] <HappyFool> Paradoxx: this is when you do 'Mark all upgrades' and then 'Apply' ?
[03:36] <Seveas> Paradoxx, did you enable backports?
[03:36] <Paradoxx> yea, and i just tried to get the deps, and still have prob
[03:36] <Paradoxx> yep
[03:37] <Seveas> disable them
[03:37] <liquidfire> nalioth, is there a video-dvd burning option in it ?
[03:37] <Paradoxx> y is that?
[03:37] <nalioth> liquidfire: you mean like "burn a video dvd"?
[03:37] <funkyHat> Paradoxx, backports are likely to break your system
[03:37] <nalioth> liquidfire: yes i believe so
[03:38] <liquidfire> dvd yes
[03:38] <Stormx2> Hey Seveas, i'm having some problems compiling packages from source. A lot of them complain GLIB 1.2.2 or higher isn't installed, but I have the package installed (from synaptic)
[03:38] <Paradoxx> kk
[03:38] <Paradoxx> i gtg
[03:38] <Paradoxx> talk to u all later
[03:38] <Seveas> they have server problems and are generally bad news
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> Stormx2, check your glib version
[03:38] <nalioth> Stormx2: have apt build the pkg for you (if applicable)
[03:38] <liquidfire> or do i need to make video_ts and audio_ts myslf?
[03:38] <Seveas> Stormx2, install glib-$VERSION-dev
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> maybe they have installed the later ones into different directory\
[03:38] <Stormx2> Seveas: OK.
[03:38] <Stormx2> I'll give that a go.
[03:38] <Stormx2> (and btw I have GLIB 1.2.10 installed)
[03:38] <nalioth> liquidfire: enable all official repos (except backports) and then browswe synatpic for video tools
[03:39] <nalioth> liquidfire: i believe you'll be pleased
[03:40] <dooglus> can someone help me set up iptables to allow me to mount an smbfs windows share please?
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> dooglus, did you use a script to configure iptables or did you do it by hand?
[03:41] <root_> Whelp
[03:41] <dooglus> hatake_kakashi: I use ipkungfu
[03:41] <nalioth> dooglus: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[03:42] <sugoruyo> hi
[03:42] <sugoruyo> anyone using e16 on ubuntu hoary?
[03:42] <dooglus> thanks nalioth
[03:42] <persia> Could someone suggest a resource where I could learn how to enable a Wastebasket on my desktop?
[03:42] <Seveas> persia, it's in the panel
[03:43] <Seveas> bottom right
[03:43] <persia> Seveas: It's not in my panel, it crashes whenever I load it, and I'd like it on my desktop anyway.  I realize it's supposed to be in the panel, and the reason it doesn't work is my own fault, but...
[03:43] <sugoruyo> anyone using e16 on ubuntu hoary?
[03:44] <Seveas> persia, open gconf-editor
[03:44] <persia> Seveas: Thanks.
[03:44] <Seveas> go to the key /apps/nautilus/desktop/
[03:44] <Seveas> it has a 'show_wastebasket' key or something like that
[03:45] <persia> Seveas: Works great!  Thanks again.
[03:45] <Blue-Omega> thanks Seveas
[03:45] <Seveas> yw
[03:45] <ubuntuser> hello, i wanted to enter that server several times before 2day, and sth was wrong?
[03:45] <ubuntuser> i was redirected
[03:46] <liquidfire> read the topic ubuntuser
[03:46] <liquidfire> it said we had an attack
[03:47] <DjKritical> anyone know when the Wine (Universe) package will be fixed/updated?
[03:47] <sugoruyo> anyone using e16 on ubuntu hoary?
[03:48] <Bols> What is going on with the searching on ubuntuforums ?!
[03:48] <Seveas> ubuntuser, in the redirect channel ist is in the topic and the periodic announcements
[03:49] <acidborg> hello
[03:49] <ubuntuser> yhm
[03:49] <ubuntuser> i get it
[03:49] <acidborg> my cdrom device doesn't open, neither executing eject nor manually
[03:49] <sugoruyo> so noone uses enlightenment on ubuntu hoary/
[03:49] <ubuntuser> i that ive done sth wrong with my net
[03:50] <ubuntuser> aciborg: umount it
[03:50] <ubuntuser> umount /dev/cdrom
[03:50] <ubuntuser> if it isn'i used by any programm
[03:50] <persia> acidborg: Do you have anything currently accessing the CDROM?  I usually discover aI've left a shell open when that happens to me.
[03:51] <nlitement> ieuentero who teh fuck is that little bot shit?
[03:51] <HappyFool> acidborg: if all of that doesn't help, try 'sudo eject -s' -- i had to do that even though my cdrom was unmounted
[03:51] <nlitement> sorry for the cuss
[03:51] <nalioth> sugoruyo: lots of people do, they're just not here atm
[03:51] <liquidfire> oke thats it
[03:52] <liquidfire> how the hell do i create video-dvds under linux
[03:52] <sugoruyo> with 430 ppl in the channel i thought someone would be using it
[03:52] <liquidfire> k3b can't do it
[03:52] <liquidfire> gnomebaker cant do it
[03:52] <nalioth> sugoruyo: not all 430 are in channel atm
[03:52] <liquidfire> anyone got a idea >_<?
[03:52] <Drajka> Apparently flash isn't supported on x86_64? :(
[03:52] <nalioth> liquidfire: did you enable all repos but backports and browse synaptic for video tools?
[03:52] <walde>  /umode +CE
[03:52] <liquidfire> yes
[03:52] <sugoruyo> especially since those in #enlightenment seem to have dropped dead without turning the pc off
[03:52] <nalioth> liquidfire: you reloaded your apt-get after you enabled?
[03:53] <sugoruyo> i mean in this channel there are 430 ppl
[03:53] <sugoruyo> so...
[03:53] <liquidfire> yes
[03:53] <nalioth> sugoruyo: some of these people haven't been seen in weeks
[03:53] <liquidfire> i did it a while ago nalioth
[03:53] <Drajka> >.>
[03:53] <persia> liquidfire: Have you tried dvdauthor?
[03:53] <liquidfire> no
[03:53] <liquidfire> where can I get it :o?
[03:53] <nalioth> liquidfire: there are lots of tools for video, (just dont ask me their names)
[03:54] <persia> liquidfire: packages.ubuntu.com tells me it's in hoary universe.
[03:54] <liquidfire> i just need to burn dvd's
[03:54] <liquidfire> nothing more
[03:54] <liquidfire> =] 
[03:54] <liquidfire> I've got the ivo/vob files
[03:54] <liquidfire> so i don't need to encode/recode the files
[03:54] <acidborg> eject as root works
[03:55] <SpareXX> anyone knows Azureus?
[03:55] <manu_> hi
[03:55] <acidborg> but as a normal user doesn't work
[03:55] <Drajka> heh..
[03:55] <Drajka> Does flash not work on 64 bit procs yest?
[03:55] <Drajka> yet*
[03:56] <persia> acidborg: Is the normal user in the cdrom group?  I think you need to be in this group to have eject access to the device.
[03:56] <HappyFool> liquidfire: maybe dvdrtools is what you want?
[03:56] <manu_> I like to get Id3 Information with musicbrainz, but it doesn't work. the guys from amarok said, it's an ubuntu error. can somebody help me?
[03:56] <liquidfire> maybe
[03:57] <liquidfire> Is it in the repos HappyFool ?
[03:57] <Seveas> Drajka, nope
[03:57] <HappyFool> !info dvdrtools
[03:57] <acidborg> persia: yes,it is
[03:57] <ubotu> dvdrtools: (DVD writing program), section multiverse/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.1.5-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 126 kB, Installed size: 328 kB
[03:57] <nalioth> liquidfire: if you've got the ifo/vob then just drop em into a video_ts and be done with it
[03:57] <nalioth> liquidfire: i dont think you browsed very hard in your synaptic
[03:58] <liquidfire> well maybe i didn't
[03:58] <acidborg> now,after executing eject as root, i can open the cdrom manually but no by "eject"
[03:58] <liquidfire> but i only came across some encoding tools
[03:58] <HappyFool> i see there's also a dvd+rw-tools; don't what the difference is
[03:58] <HappyFool> !info dvd+rw-tools
[03:58] <ubotu> dvd+rw-tools: (DVD+-RW/R tools), section utils, is optional. Version: 5.21.4.10.8-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 91 kB, Installed size: 304 kB
[03:58] <spiral> hi
[03:58] <uthini> !bavkports
[03:58] <ubotu> uthini: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:58] <uthini> !backports
[03:58] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:58] <HappyFool> it is in main, rather than multiverse, if that matters
[03:59] <Drajka> Aww...
[03:59] <HappyFool> hmm. the splash screen for blender is very weird
[04:00] <Drajka> Alrighty.. I suppose I'll just stay in here, since I'm hella noob.. I couldn't possibly NOT need your guys help. :]  Linux is pretty cool, though I would like an app that let's me monitor network bandwidth in real time... If anyone has ever used Bandwidth Monitor Pro for windows.. I mean something similar to that
[04:00] <walde> I am using Ubuntu-standard-kernel. In the cryptopart of /boot/config.... aes seems to be compiled as module (CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_586=m). But I cannot find this module (Yes, I have problems with AES)
[04:00] <lee> this may a stupid question but how do you mount a floppy drive when booted from the hoary livecd?
[04:00] <persia> acidborg: Does eject -v tell you anything useful?
[04:00] <Seveas> Drajka, bwm
[04:00] <Drajka> =x
[04:01] <acidborg> does nautilus-cd-burning work? i insert a blank disk but it always asks me to insert a blank disk instead of burning
[04:01] <manu_> I like to get Id3 Information with musicbrainz, but it doesn't work. the guys from amarok said, it's an ubuntu error. can somebody help me?
[04:01] <HappyFool> walde: you mean this: kernel/arch/i386/crypto/aes-i586.ko ? (relative to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[04:01] <ubuntuser> when i want od apt-get update i get:
[04:02] <ubuntuser> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[04:02] <ubuntuser> W: Naley uruchomi apt-get update aby naprawi te problemy.
[04:02] <ubuntuser> never mind last sentence
[04:02] <ubuntuser> whats wrong?
[04:03] <HappyFool> lee: try 'sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy' ?
[04:03] <nlitement> why are these shit SPAMMING ON FREENODE? god's sake it's a "support channel community" network, even efnet doesnt have as much spam as this despite the ddos-problems
[04:03] <nlitement> *these shits
[04:03] <HappyFool> lee: maybe just 'mount /dev/fd0' will work
[04:03] <persia> ubuntuser: You've the marillat repositories enabled.  You'll need to add that key to your keyring, accept the unverified packages, or remove that repository.
[04:03] <HiddenWolf> Guys, I have a problem. I backed up my mail files from Thunderbird, but forgot to backup ~/.Mozilla-thunderbird. I now want to import my old mail into thunderbird. How do I do this?
[04:03] <walde> HappyFool, I know where the modules are stored. There are several cryptomoduls, but no aes. When I am using losetup I got no errormessage. But somehow the devices are not mountable. I used a aes-256 encryption
[04:04] <HappyFool> walde: sorry, that's beyond my knowledge
[04:04] <Drajka> Meh.. Suppose I need help again. ;) I need to put a script in the xchat folder, but I don' thave write permissions?
[04:04] <walde> HappyFool, thank you anyway
[04:04] <ubuntuser> i want to download package gstreamer0.8-lame
[04:04] <_adam> I'm trying to install the DVD reading packages through synaptic, but whenever I try to install them it just stays at the preparing packages screen forever.
[04:04] <ubuntuser> and :/
[04:05] <HappyFool> ubuntuser: tried hoary-extras?
[04:05] <HappyFool> !hoary-extras
[04:05] <ubotu> methinks hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:05] <BSG75> anyone know why I can't install j2re1.5?
[04:05] <rolo> anybody knows a p2p client for ubuntu..?
[04:05] <Determinist> would an intel CPU with HT require kernel SMP support? if not would it do any good if installed?
[04:06] <BSG75> rolo: try emule, edonkey, limewire
[04:06] <Determinist> rolo: amule for ED2k
[04:06] <Seveas> BSG75, breezy?
[04:06] <persia> Determinist: A SMP kernel will take advantage of HT.
[04:06] <rolo> !limewire
[04:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, limewire is at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[04:06] <Determinist> persia: thanks
[04:06] <Seveas> Determinist, if you enable HT that is...
[04:06] <rolo> ty
[04:06] <Seveas> by default the SMP kernels have HT disabled
[04:06] <Drajka> Meh.. Suppose I need help again. ;) I need to put a script in the xchat folder, but I don' thave write permissions?
[04:06] <Determinist> Seveas: any reason why i shouldnt or wouldnt want to?
[04:07] <Seveas> there's I minor security bug in the hardware design of HT
[04:07] <BSG75>  whenever I try to apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 it says package can't be found
[04:07] <Determinist> Seveas: anything that would bother an avrage user?
[04:07] <liquidfire> BSG75, what version are you using
[04:07] <liquidfire> 64bit ?
[04:07] <persia> Determinist: If you run encryption, another user on the same box has a very slight chance of collecting your key.
[04:07] <BSG75> 5.04
[04:07] <Seveas> Determinist, nothing that would bother anyone but true paranoid people...
[04:07] <uthini> Seveas, i'm getting bad headerlines from apt-get when i try to update? whats causing it?
[04:08] <liquidfire> i mean
[04:08] <Determinist> Seveas: i see
[04:08] <Seveas> uthini, how would I know...
[04:08] <Determinist> persia: thanks
[04:08] <liquidfire> do you use the 64 or 32bit release ?
[04:08] <Seveas> BSG75, grab a deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:08] <uthini> Seveas, i thought u mite know whats causing the error, cos now i can't update my system, ohwell, gonna install kde and run away
[04:09] <ompaul> Drajka, you don't have permissions to your own .xchat2/ directories?
[04:10] <nalioths_dog> BSG75: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[04:10] <Drajka> I don't know o.O
[04:10] <Drajka> That's what it said >.<
[04:10] <boma> hi there
[04:11] <BSG75> Seveas: 401 error
[04:11] <Seveas> BSG75, PM
[04:11] <nalioth> BSG75: the dogs method will work
[04:13] <liquidfire> how can i make a shortcut to a program ?
[04:13] <DjKritical> anyone know the package name for the X development headers?
[04:13] <liquidfire> i installed java but i need to start it trough the console
[04:13] <liquidfire> i mean
[04:14] <liquidfire> azureus
[04:14] <ompaul> liquidfire, on your desktop for instance?
[04:14] <dwerf> liquidfire > use control + drag
[04:14] <liquidfire> yeah
[04:14] <liquidfire> ompaul,
[04:14] <liquidfire> dwerf, that doesn't work
[04:14] <liquidfire> I get a tabe asking me what to do
[04:14] <liquidfire> =/
[04:14] <liquidfire> *tab
[04:14] <ompaul> liquidfire, do this right click on the desktop and choose create launcher
[04:15] <nalioth> liquidfire: you are after a command called "ln"
[04:15] <rolo> http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire, it all works but then I can't open Limewire, anybody knows what to do?
[04:15] <DjKritical> anyone know the package name for the X development headers?
[04:15] <liquidfire> nalioth, where should i put the command ?
[04:15] <Seveas> rolo, yeah, ditch ubuntuguide :)
[04:15] <Seveas> DjKritical, xlibs-dev
[04:15] <ompaul> liquidfire, then use name to provide your discription and for command the command line and fill in as many  more details as you want
[04:16] <Seveas> DjKritical, what are you compiling?
[04:16] <DjKritical> Wine
[04:16] <aftertaf> hi all....
[04:16] <nalioth> Seveas: i wish i had your memory (sorry forgot the experiemental solid-state core you have)
[04:16] <aftertaf> got a grub n00bie problem :/
[04:16] <Seveas> damn it
[04:17] <liquidfire> hmm
[04:17] <liquidfire> i just copied the command
[04:17] <liquidfire> java used
[04:17] <Seveas> more spambots...
[04:17] <liquidfire> to exec azureus :o
[04:17] <liquidfire> That works :D
[04:18] <Hoxzer> ;/ somebody else getting porn spam by pm?
[04:18] <Seveas> Hoxzer, yes, use /umode +CE
[04:18] <ubuntuser> HappyFool: what do you mean hoary-extras?
[04:18] <ubuntuser> :>
[04:18] <ompaul> HappyFool, pm?
[04:18] <HappyFool> !tell ubuntuser about hoary-extras
[04:18] <liquidfire> can i give azureus permissions to write/change files
[04:19] <liquidfire> because it wants to update itself
[04:19] <liquidfire> but then it says can't update
[04:19] <liquidfire> No write permission
[04:19] <ubuntuser> yhm
[04:19] <ubuntuser> thx
[04:19] <HappyFool> ompaul: have pm'd you
[04:19] <liquidfire> !pastebin
[04:19] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:20] <aftertaf> i have googled for help & stuff about grub but i can't find anything that helps me!!!
[04:20] <thread> what's the password on the hoary livecd? username ubuntu, pass ?
[04:20] <DjKritical> more spam
[04:20] <DjKritical> ASLI^ = spambot
[04:20] <Seveas> thread, no pass
[04:20] <HappyFool> thread: try just <neter> ?
[04:21] <thread> that didn't work...
[04:21] <HappyFool> enter, even
[04:21] <thread> when the screen locked
[04:21] <Seveas> it looked so hopeful...
[04:21] <thread> and the screensaver came on
[04:21] <thread> the username was ubuntu
[04:21] <thread> but a blank pass didn't work
[04:21] <Seveas> thread, that unfortunately is a bug
[04:21] <thread> ew
[04:22] <thread> a nasty one at that!
[04:22] <Seveas> switch to a console with [ctrl] [alt] [f1] 
[04:22] <Seveas> login
[04:22] <Seveas> and type: killall -q xscreensaver
[04:22] <Seveas> then go back with [alt] [f7] 
[04:22] <thread> Seveas: nod
[04:22] <thread> thx
[04:23] <liquidfire> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1656 can somebody help me with this :)?
[04:23] <aftertaf> when i recompile a kernel and install with kpkg, do i need to update the boot loader like lilo needs to?
[04:23] <ubuntuser> another question: is it possible that apt-get download missing packages to currently instelled
[04:23] <ubuntuser> ?
[04:23] <ubuntuser> because gstreamer0.8-lame requires libglame0
[04:24] <dooglus> nalioth: I'm still having a problem with iptables and smbfs.
[04:24] <ubuntuser> do I have to manually install all required packs
[04:24] <ubuntuser> ??
[04:24] <Seveas> aftertaf, no
[04:24] <dooglus> when I try to mount a windows share, I see an incoming connection on port 32795.  or port 32786.  or something slightly different each time.
[04:24] <Seveas> the kernel packages take care of that
[04:24] <aftertaf> ok.. cheers!
[04:25] <aftertaf> i followed the making of an initrd as per ->mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8.1 2.6.8.1
[04:25] <persia> ubuntuuser: If you cannot find a repository that contains the packages for apt-get to find them, you'll need to install the dependencies manually.  Have you looked at hoary-extras?
[04:25] <ubuntuser> yes
[04:26] <ubuntuser> persia: and its missing liblame0
[04:26] <aftertaf> and how do i add my zindope to the boot menu? i know how to with lilo (debian) but i'm new to kubuntu + grub.
[04:26] <ubuntuser> what can I do to automatically install all missing
[04:26] <SpareXX> which drivers shall i download for nvidia drivers freebsd x86? or linux ia 32 ?
[04:26] <aftertaf> bugs me to have to ask, but google no joy <:-(
[04:26] <dwerf> how can i check if a server had perl installed - remote?
[04:26] <rolo> anybody knows how to install macromedia flash, since apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla doesn't wor?
[04:26] <rolo> work?
[04:26] <persia> ubuntuser: It's in multiverse.  Sorry for the misdirection.
[04:27] <ubuntuser> ;] 
[04:27] <aftertaf> rolo: swf-player ?? does that work?
[04:27] <rolo> let's c
[04:27] <rolo> !swf-player
[04:27] <ubotu> rolo: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:27] <rolo> uups
[04:27] <rolo> lol
[04:28] <SpareXX> which drivers shall i download for nvidia drivers freebsd x86? or linux ia 32 ?
[04:28] <Seveas> none
[04:28] <hatake_kakashi> Seveas, bah! thanks for that before :) I can't believe these script-kiddies.. they are making a very nice living for others
[04:28] <Seveas> use the drivers provided by ubuntu
[04:28] <rolo> can't find that package eather
[04:28] <aftertaf> dunno if it works as a plugin with konqueror though..
[04:28] <aftertaf> rolo: really??? you added any more repositories?
[04:28] <SpareXX> Seveas uhm, ok, and they are installed within?
[04:29] <rolo> aftertaf uups didn't see that line
[04:29] <rolo> =)
[04:29] <Seveas> SpareXX: To keep your kernel current install one of linux-686 (for intel cpu) linux-k7 (for amd) or linux-ppc (for mac)
[04:29] <liquidfire> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1656 can somebody help me with this :)?
[04:29] <Lathiat> f
[04:29] <aftertaf> SpareXX: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:30] <aftertaf> no idea if it works, havent rebooted yet since...
[04:30] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, ls -al /home/liquidfire/azureus/plugins/azplugins/azplugins_1.5.1.jar
[04:30] <Determinist> Seveas: is 2.6.11 stable? if memory doesnt fail me, kernel releases ending with uneven numbers are usually unstable releases
[04:31] <Seveas> Determinist, that hold for 2.3, 2.5, 2.13 etc...
[04:31] <aftertaf> nope...
[04:31] <hatake_kakashi> Determinist, I thought it would be 2.3, 2.5
[04:31] <Seveas> but the ubuntu 2.6.11 packages are not meant to be used
[04:31] <Determinist> Seveas: i see, so every 2.6.XX release is stable?
[04:31] <aftertaf> er. really?
[04:31] <Seveas> Determinist, not the ubuntu packaged
[04:31] <dwerf> how can i check if a server had perl installed - remote?
[04:31] <Seveas> the 2.6.11 were testbuilds
[04:32] <Determinist> Seveas: i see those available for install
[04:32] <Seveas> Determinist, but don't use them
[04:32] <Seveas> Determinist: To keep your kernel current install one of linux-686 (for intel cpu) linux-k7 (for amd) or linux-ppc (for mac)
[04:32] <aftertaf> ive just comp=iled the 2.6.11 too :/
[04:32] <Determinist> Seveas: i have 2.6.10-686
[04:32] <Seveas> good
[04:32] <Seveas> but have linux-686 installed too
[04:32] <Seveas> it's merely a metapackage'
[04:32] <rolo> aftertaf, thanks, it works
[04:33] <Seveas> will help you keeping the kernel uptodate
[04:33] <chrissturm> seveas: in 2.6 odd minor numbers are unstable
[04:33] <Determinist> Seveas: that too, and the header files too (needed those for the nvidia installer)
[04:33] <persia> chrissturm: Isn't that only true for 2.6.11 and 2.6.13?
[04:34] <aftertaf> Seveas: Should I remove the  2.6.10 & 2.6.11 packages then?
[04:34] <Determinist> according to that, breezy should include 2.6. what?
[04:34] <chrissturm> persia, dunno. maybe they change it again :)
[04:34] <aftertaf> rolo: that's a jammy 1st for me then ;)
[04:34] <Seveas> Determinist, .12
[04:34] <Determinist> mmkay
[04:35] <carnilo> I don't know how! but my php doesn't seem to be working. is there setting for apache to use php or not?
[04:35] <rolo> does anybody know why I don't have any sound when watching a flash movie?
[04:35] <BSG75> umm I just got spammed for webcamera sex movie
[04:35] <Determinist> carnilo: whats not working?
[04:36] <liquidfire> I doesn't work hatake_kakashi  :/
[04:36] <carnilo> it seems that php module is not loaded
[04:36] <aftertaf> BSG75: /umode +CE
[04:36] <Seveas> rolo, wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:36] <BSG75> thanks
[04:36] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, no no, I wanted to see the output of it.. I forgot to mention that part
[04:36] <Determinist> carnilo: are you sure you have all the right packages installed?
[04:36] <rolo> Seveas, thanks.
[04:37] <aftertaf> BSG: Seveas told us a bit ago, i just remembered ;)
[04:37] <funky> hi
[04:37] <carnilo> Determinist: apt-get install apache2, also php4
[04:37] <Viziri> for some reason i can't search the forums. I'm having problems installing kde - anyone else get those unmet dependent errors? I updated ubuntu and did all that stuff with repositories but still no good
[04:37] <ubuntuser> persia: it still demands liblame0 and it cannot install gstreamer0.8-lame
[04:38] <ubuntuser> it cant find it
[04:38] <Determinist> carnilo: you need afew more packages installed for php to work with apache...
[04:38] <Determinist> !lamp
[04:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:38] <letschatt> does anyone know if the default kernel that comes with ubuntu has acpi or apm support built in?
[04:38] <Determinist> carnilo: what ubotu just posted
[04:38] <carnilo> but I was looking into https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:38] <aftertaf> letschatt: run make menuconfig and load the config file in /bot
[04:38] <funky> how can i downgrade a program, i have the breezy version installed and i want the hoary version, i have both reps. in source.list but Im using breezy by default, thx
[04:38] <aftertaf> boot/
[04:38] <persia> ubuntuser: At this point, you've enabled multiverse, and updated your apt cahce, right?
[04:38] <Determinist> carnilo: hmm, just a sec, i'll check which ones i had installed. never used that lamp one
[04:39] <letschatt> aftertaf, are you saying recompile from source?
[04:39] <aftertaf> nope but that way you can see what is selected ;)
[04:39] <letschatt> aftertaf, or just make menuconfig?
[04:39] <Determinist> carnilo: pm
[04:39] <letschatt> excellent i'd love to see that. thanks
[04:39] <ubuntuser> persia: I've added that link to sources.list and done apt-get update
[04:39] <ubuntuser> anything mor
[04:39] <ubuntuser> e
[04:40] <liquidfire> sorry hatake_kakashi i was getting something to drink
[04:40] <rolo> thanks saveas ot wprled
[04:40] <rolo> uups
[04:40] <rolo> it worked
[04:40] <letschatt> also, on windows my sound card has the same controls as linux, but the bass and treble i get are far higher
[04:40] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, np
[04:40] <_adam> Where can I find libdvdcss
[04:40] <aftertaf> letschatt: linux powa :)
[04:40] <liquidfire> it says file doesn't exsist
[04:40] <letschatt> hey that's spam
[04:40] <sean____> wow steavas :p
[04:40] <liquidfire> Seveas, at cleaning duty
[04:40] <liquidfire> =] 
[04:40] <letschatt> hehe ok
[04:40] <Determinist> Seveas: how do i look at installed packages from command line? apt-?
[04:41] <letschatt> i thought someone was pasting some config file
[04:41] <sean____> lol
[04:41] <liquidfire> wow
[04:41] <youngcoder> lol
[04:41] <liquidfire> my monitor is acting wierd
[04:41] <persia> ubuntuser: OK.  Are you installing gstreamer0.8-lame from a repository, or locally?
[04:41] <liquidfire> the screen is getting blurry
[04:41] <aftertaf> so to recompile a new kernel on a 'fresh' kubuntu, i shouldn't install the packages linux-source-2.6.11 or 2.6.10... but the k7 (amd)
[04:41] <Seveas> apt-get
[04:41] <BSG75> LOL
[04:41] <SpareXX> what is the newest version of java?
[04:41] <letschatt> which irc client are you guys using? xchat's colours are crap
[04:41] <liquidfire> 1.5
[04:41] <funky> how can i downgrade a program, i have the breezy version installed and i want the hoary version, i have both reps. in source.list but Im using breezy by default, thx
[04:41] <Seveas> 1.5
[04:42] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, that's weird I thought you have that file there, what did you do to it?
[04:42] <Seveas> sun-j2re1.5 (1.5.0+update04 )
[04:42] <liquidfire> i didn't do anything lol
[04:42] <liquidfire> it downloaded
[04:42] <liquidfire> the file
[04:42] <liquidfire> And now it says its gone
[04:42] <topyli> letschatt: change the colors :)
[04:42] <SpareXX> ok, but when i type "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5" it says package not found
[04:42] <BSG75> anyone else have gnome slow down to a crawl when copying files over 1gb over the network?  (doesn't if I do scp from terminal)
[04:42] <ubuntuser> persia: repository
[04:42] <ubuntuser> only:p
[04:43] <Seveas> SpareXX, grab a deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:43] <sean____> anyone had any luck installing NeroLinux on ubunutu?
[04:43] <ubuntuser> redguy: Poland:d??
[04:43] <OculusAquilae> sean____: yes
[04:44] <nalioth> letschatt: use irssi (or give it a try)
[04:44] <cfaun> When I try to install software, I get the error: "dpkg: ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed." How can this be resolved?
[04:44] <sean____> OculusAquilae, u install from the .deb?
[04:44] <redguy> ubuntuser: yup
[04:44] <OculusAquilae> sean____: yea
[04:44] <letschatt> i don't understand the colouring in xhcat .. :(  and i keep installing packages i amupto 1.5 gigs that's Xtreme Pain territory
[04:44] <ubuntuser> ;] 
[04:44] <sean____> damn, im getting failed dependncy issues..
[04:44] <OculusAquilae> hm
[04:44] <nalioths_dog> SpareXX: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[04:44] <rolo> !emule
[04:44] <ubotu> I don't know, rolo
[04:44] <OculusAquilae> sean____: which ubuntu do you have?
[04:44] <rolo> !amule
[04:44] <ubotu> rolo: I give up, what is it?
[04:44] <sean____> hoary
[04:44] <rolo> !mule
[04:44] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, rolo
[04:45] <rolo> w/e.
[04:45] <redguy> ubuntuser: tpsa as well I see :-)
[04:45] <sean____> breezy crashes my system
[04:45] <nalioth> rolo: you want "!info <pkgname>"
[04:45] <nalioth> rolo: as in this
[04:45] <OculusAquilae> sean____: i have hoary too
[04:45] <ubuntuser> 2 months discount:D
[04:45] <nalioth> !info emule
[04:45] <rolo> !info emule
[04:45] <nalioth> !info amule
[04:45] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2.6+rc7-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1992 kB, Installed size: 5888 kB
[04:45] <sean____> odd... i guess it scratch my head time and fix it :p
[04:45] <rolo> ubotu Someone already said that 5 seconds ago
[04:45] <ubotu> rolo: Not a clue
[04:45] <rolo> lol
[04:45] <ubuntuser> how to:  You must register and identify with NickServ before talking to this user
[04:45] <sean____> rofl rolo, uboto is a bot :p
[04:46] <rolo> duh
[04:46] <rolo> :P
[04:46] <ubuntuser> any help
[04:46] <rolo> i'm just copy-pasting it because I thought Uboto was pm'ing it to Nalioth
[04:46] <SpareXX> Seveas username and pass?
[04:46] <rolo> but Nalioth, thanks
[04:46] <OculusAquilae> ubuntuuser: for whar?
[04:46] <OculusAquilae> s/whar/what
[04:46] <rolo> !limewire
[04:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, limewire is at http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[04:46] <Seveas> SpareXX, msg me a username and pass you want :)
[04:47] <SpareXX> Seveas how do i login on this server?
[04:47] <aftertaf> letschatt: Kirc :)
[04:47] <Seveas> SpareXX, msg me a username and pass you want :) <---
[04:47] <aftertaf> back in 2. rebooting xserver for nvidia test.....
[04:47] <remyforbes777>   what would be a good program to use to sort my comic books
[04:47] <SpareXX> Seveas is blocking messages from unidentified users.  You must register and identify with NickServ before talking to this user.
[04:47] <Gnonthgol> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[04:47] <letschatt> aftertaf, i remember a time when modconf was the default utility and far far simpler to understand. you just used /etc/modules.conf how do you configure modprobe and look at what modules are loaded every time?
[04:47] <sean____> "/msg nickserv register <pass>
[04:48] <chrissturm> how can i block unidentified users?
[04:48] <SpareXX> i have register
[04:48] <liquidfire> hatake_kakashi, heh i'm downloading Naruto now asuming when I watch your name
[04:48] <liquidfire> you watch it too
[04:48] <Seveas> chrissturm, /umode +CE
[04:48] <DjKritical> naruto kicks ass! =)
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, lol, I'm regettiing them again :) I have watched it, and missed some, watched it again but yeah :)
[04:48] <liquidfire> :>
[04:48] <Viziri> help! - I've changed my source.list and have all current repositories i believe but get this error "kubuntu-desktop: Depends: amarok but it is not going to be installed" everytime!!!!!!
[04:48] <liquidfire> I'm downloading 1-75
[04:48] <liquidfire> now
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> once I get it again this time I'm going to burn it
[04:49] <liquidfire> I lost them a while ago :/
[04:49] <liquidfire> Yeah, i have 1-15 burned
[04:49] <liquidfire> my dad said don't you waste those DVD's
[04:49] <liquidfire> lol
[04:49] <Viziri> can someone reply to let me know i'm getting though here?
[04:49] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, heh, I had mine deleted by a staff here :/ no not freenode.. I mean where I am at :)
[04:49] <Viziri> through*
[04:49] <HiddenWolf> Does anyone here have an Audigy2 working under Breezy?
[04:49] <sean____> Viziri, hear ya fine
[04:50] <HappyFool> Viziri: are you using breezy? or backports?
[04:50] <nalioth> Viziri: where ya tryin to get thru to?
[04:50] <Viziri> I'm using Hoary 5.04
[04:50] <hatake_kakashi> at least for now I am enjoying the speeds that one would dream of getting if they could only get T1 here :)
[04:51] <liquidfire> you on a private school or something ?
[04:51] <liquidfire> or at work ?
[04:51] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: try # apt-get install amarok
[04:51] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, uni :D
[04:51] <Viziri> I'm an absolute new to linuxb. I followed instructions to install kubuntu from disc using package manager
[04:51] <liquidfire> ah :D
[04:51] <liquidfire> and then the staff deletes perfectly legal videofiles Oo?
[04:51] <rayo> hi, i installed ubuntu on a notebook, but the console only flickers and the xserver doesn't show on the lcd, it works on a external crt. what must i change that this work (res should ok)
[04:51] <liquidfire> wierd, thats private property isn't it hatake_kakashi  Oo
[04:52] <Viziri> Gnonthgol:  that gives me unmet errors too
[04:52] <liquidfire> why should they mess in your pc
[04:52] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, they come around 'reimaging' these machines, unfortunately I had somewhat a student staff that told me approximately when they will do so but they did it way before I assumed..
[04:52] <hatake_kakashi> lol, my own 'real' box is dead :S
[04:52] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: uou have to install every package until uou get to the package that makes the problem
[04:52] <liquidfire> hatake_kakashi, thats just wierd
[04:53] <liquidfire> if my computers is at a university
[04:53] <liquidfire> its my property
[04:53] <liquidfire> nobody else's
[04:53] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, I'm using uni computers, normally they don't allow one to store such data, etc but here, they are not that strict..
[04:53] <liquidfire> ah
[04:53] <liquidfire> Thats something different :)
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> and these @#@$@$ machines are win32 :S the linux boxes in the same block I'm in does not give me enough access to whatever I want to do
[04:54] <Viziri> jeez....  why is ubuntu making life so hard? the surely must be a simpler way? - this is such a tedious thing to do! - All a user should have to do is click install kbuntu and all dependent packages should install automatically too... so f annoying
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> so I end up trying to pick up and help out where possible with other linux users
[04:54] <liquidfire> well i just started using linux
[04:54] <hatake_kakashi> Viziri, well, automation is coming around, one just needs to be patient for the time being :)
[04:54] <liquidfire> hehe about 2 weeks
[04:55] <liquidfire> But i think its great
[04:55] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, not bad, at least you made a move
[04:55] <liquidfire> ;)
[04:55] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: This is not a uduntu problem but an error in Debian that dont have a smart apt-get program
[04:55] <liquidfire> But somethings i just want to have some more friendlyness
[04:55] <liquidfire> like burning
[04:55] <hatake_kakashi> I tried teaching my younger bro about linux but he just thinks that win32 is far too superior :/ oh well, I'll wait until he regrets
[04:55] <liquidfire> I have no idea howto burn DVD files, i have k3b and gnomebaker installed
[04:56] <liquidfire> but i only can burn datadiscs and adio
[04:56] <liquidfire> audio
[04:56] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, hmm someone had a solution in the linux chan
[04:56] <hatake_kakashi> dunno if it would work though :/
[04:56] <nalioth> liquidfire: drop your ifo/vob into a video_ts folder and burn it as video with k3b
[04:56] <Viziri> I hope u guys fix it soon. I have to say that Ubuntu is great, it's just these big errors that make people go back to winfows
[04:56] <Gnonthgol> I gave Ubuntu to my economy teacher hwo just knew Exel and he loved it
[04:57] <hatake_kakashi> Viziri, well, its not really ubuntu :) its more of that program, but patience is really the key
[04:57] <hatake_kakashi> Gnonthgol, nice
[04:57] <LinuxJones> Viziri, kubuntu should install just
[04:57] <LinuxJones> Viziri, did you upgrade to breezy ?
[04:57] <liquidfire> whats this lol
[04:58] <liquidfire> nalioth, i'm blind or something
[04:58] <Viziri> I'm using Hoary 5.04
[04:58] <Gnonthgol> Viziri: I tryed Linux a couple of years ago and gave up, Linux have come a long way since then
[04:58] <liquidfire> i feel so ashame right now
[04:58] <GoLiaT> hi
[04:58] <hatake_kakashi> Viziri, I'm sure you have gone through the horrid days of when win9x box crashes leaving you with the black and white screen? :)
[04:58] <liquidfire> I just overlooked something :(
[04:58] <letschatt> do I need kernel headers to do make menuconfig ? on make menuconfig i get /usr/src/linux-source.... /scripts/gcc-version.sh not found
[04:58] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, you're only human ;)
[04:58] <liquidfire> :/ well but i feel plain stupid
[04:58] <GoLiaT> Im at an Ubuntu Live CD and I want to mount an external drive, how can i do that?
[04:59] <Ex-Cyber> Viziri: I think what makes people go back to Windows is that they prefer the stupid, annoying problems that they're familiar with, rather than the new and exciting stupid, annoying problems offered by Ubuntu :)
[04:59] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, meh, well learn :)
[04:59] <liquidfire> Yeah Ex-Cyber , thats why I made the switch
[04:59] <hatake_kakashi> Ex-Cyber, or they want to be monitored
[04:59] <liquidfire> I'm no power user in windows
[04:59] <liquidfire> but the problems in linux have more support
[04:59] <Gnonthgol> GoGiaT: try the mount command
[05:00] <liquidfire> !dma
[05:00] <Viziri> well I have to say my experiences with windows have not been that bad to be honest...  except for spyware/virus (typical things people complain about). I have several remote desktop to uni's that i have successfully got working with Ubuntu (which are pretty fast) which gives me good reason to use linux again. Previous experience with Mandrake forced me to reinstall windows..
[05:00] <Determinist> Viziri: typical... for windows
[05:00] <hatake_kakashi> heh, linux = pure freedom for me :) anything from those windoze
[05:00] <liquidfire> I need to use windows for gaming though :/
[05:01] <letschatt> hello? you must install ncurses-devel to run make menuconfig where do i find ncurses-devel? it's not in packages' list
[05:01] <liquidfire> too bad cedega isn't 100% working
[05:01] <aru> liquidfire: thats what the xbox is for :)
[05:01] <f_newton> hatake_kakashi, all internet traffic in the usa is monitored by law by isps but windows does give them a handy database log
[05:01] <liquidfire> aru, i'm no console gamer
[05:01] <hatake_kakashi> Viziri, one has to be patient :) if you aren't patient, you won't get anywhere :)
[05:01] <liquidfire> I tried alot of games
[05:01] <Determinist> Viziri: the fact that people recognize such problems as typical only shows the OS needs alot of work while microsoft hardly ever acknowledges that
[05:01] <GoLiaT> Gnonthgol, it says.. mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device
[05:01] <hatake_kakashi> liquidfire, yeah that's somewhat true :?
[05:01] <aru> hmm, same thing
[05:01] <hatake_kakashi> f_newton, yeah
[05:01] <liquidfire> The only things i like console are the rpg's
[05:01] <nlitement> ubuntu got 9,3 points on mbnet yay
[05:01] <liquidfire> i mainly play RTS and alot of FPS games
[05:01] <aftertaf> set /UMODE +CE
[05:01] <nlitement> is ubuntu a "easy-to-use" type of linux?
[05:01] <liquidfire> like painkiller
[05:01] <aftertaf> oops
[05:02] <liquidfire> nlitement, yes =] 
[05:02] <liquidfire> for me it is
[05:02] <aftertaf> me
[05:02] <liquidfire> And great userbase :>
[05:02] <hatake_kakashi> f_newton, afaik, I would love to avoid windows where possible.. when I get my own box workiing, definetly it will have linux on it as main
[05:02] <aftertaf> after  years of debian.....
[05:02] <Determinist> nlitement: quite, yes. most things work out of the box as opposed to other distros
[05:02] <hatake_kakashi> nlitement, somewhat yes
[05:02] <rayo> hi, i installed ubuntu on a notebook, but the console only flickers and the xserver doesn't show on the lcd, it works on a external crt. what must i change that this work? (res should be ok)
[05:02] <Ex-Cyber> the underlying OS in XP is actually really good, but the security and licensing (Product Activation... yuck) aspects of it drove me away
[05:02] <nlitement> hmm.. is ubuntu new?
[05:02] <f_newton> data microsoft gleans from its operating systems is for "corporate use only"
[05:02] <aftertaf> even got my firewire working for DV encoding :)
[05:02] <nlitement> i never heard of it a year ago
[05:02] <nlitement> i used suse, debian, mandrake
[05:03] <Seveas> nlitement, ubuntu is little over a year old now
[05:03] <Drajka> I'm back ;) I need a program to watch a dvd with :] 
[05:03] <liquidfire> btw thanks nalioth and your dog nalioths_dog for helping me >_>
[05:03] <f_newton> hatake_kakashi, when you get your own box working?
[05:03] <nlitement> that's cute <3
[05:03] <GoLiaT> any help please_
[05:03] <liquidfire> Drajka, use VLC or totem
[05:03] <letschatt> can someone help me with this hello? you must install ncurses-devel to run make menuconfig where do i find ncurses-devel? it's not in packages' list
[05:03] <liquidfire> i prefer vlc though :)
[05:03] <hatake_kakashi> Ex-Cyber, yeah there is no doubt of windows flexibility, however, windows kinda treats you as a dumb user when you really wanted to fix up a nasty backdoor that is acting like a service, etc
[05:03] <aru> nlitement: ubuntu is much cleaner and easier than suse and mandrake in my opinion.
[05:03] <aftertaf> apt-cache search ncurses
[05:03] <nalioth> liquidfire: np, just come back in here and spread the help
[05:03] <liquidfire> aru, i had a discussion with a friend of mine he just started using linux too
[05:03] <aftertaf> i think its ncurses-dev
[05:03] <nlitement> aru: that's good for me then :) mandrake was ALL THAT Messy =(
[05:03] <Drajka> I have no idea how to use VLC with breezy..
[05:03] <liquidfire> he said suse is the best for starters
[05:04] <aftertaf> slooooow to update too mandrake
[05:04] <liquidfire> Drajka, add the repo's from hoary
[05:04] <aru> nlitement: ubuntu is fairly minimal but it's very easy to get the software you need
[05:04] <nlitement> =0
[05:04] <Viziri> Yes, windows is bad for those reasons people typically complain about (spyware/virus), but i imagine if a particular linux distro became mainstream then it would also experience those problems, since those problems are due to hackers targeting products which are popular and have more potential victims
[05:04] <liquidfire> but i said ubuntu is best for starters
[05:04] <Drajka> and Totem.... is being retarded
[05:04] <hatake_kakashi> f_newton, someday, soon :) but I may run some other distro :) I'm here is because one of my uni friend has laptop running ubuntu and we have had problems with kubuntu and sometimes network config :)
[05:04] <Drajka> o.O
[05:04] <letschatt> aftertaf, there's no candidate package for ncurses-dev  there is libncurses5-dev
[05:04] <aru> nlitement: you can walways try the live cd first, just to see if you like it
[05:04] <liquidfire> Viziri, the great thing about linux is
[05:04] <nalioth> letschatt: open synaptic and search for "-dev" and i think you'll find what you are looking for
[05:04] <liquidfire> that the source code is free
[05:04] <nickrud> letschatt, that's the one you want.
[05:04] <nlitement> aru: does it take hd space?
[05:04] <Drajka> All I get
[05:04] <letschatt> thanks fellas
[05:04] <liquidfire> that means we can see the problems before it happens
[05:05] <Drajka> is "Totem could not play dvd://"
[05:05] <aru> nlitement: the live cd runs completly from your cdrom
[05:05] <aru> and memory
[05:05] <nlitement> yay! =)
[05:05] <aftertaf> ok...
[05:05] <Drajka> "Could not read from resource."
[05:05] <nlitement> on windows ?
[05:05] <letschatt> is there a list of packages someone's listed on their web page you can safely remove and get some disk moolah back?
[05:05] <liquidfire> Drajka, try /dev/dvd
[05:05] <liquidfire> hmm wait
[05:05] <aftertaf> booted with 2.6.11 and nvidia proprietary drivers....
[05:05] <Drajka> for the location?
[05:05] <liquidfire> thats wrong Oo
[05:05] <Drajka> o.O
[05:05] <aru> nlitement: it boots from the cd instead of booting from your hard drive, lets you experience an entire ubuntu setup before actually installing
[05:05] <liquidfire> I think i forgot a part
[05:05] <aftertaf> now to test hardware...
[05:05] <nlitement> aahha
[05:06] <aftertaf> still no windows in boot meny though..... anyone got a webpage giving help un setting up Grub (graphical menu + windows partiton adding to menu...?)
[05:06] <Drajka> <.<
[05:06] <liquidfire> /dev/hda/dvd
[05:06] <HiddenWolf> Does anyone here have an audigy2 card working in ubuntu Breezy?
[05:06] <liquidfire> or dev hda
[05:06] <liquidfire> lol
[05:06] <liquidfire> HiddenWolf, i have
[05:06] <Drajka> for the location..?
[05:06] <liquidfire> yes
[05:06] <liquidfire> try it
[05:06] <JBLoudG20> what options do I have for an anti-virus program? I tried to search the forums, but the database seems to be down
[05:07] <Viziri> yeah, i agree with that 100%. Great philosophy behind Linux, and particuarly Ubuntu. From what i've read the founder is a pretty generous guy. It's the main reason i chose this distro instead of others ...
[05:07] <HiddenWolf> liquidfire, did it work out of the box?
[05:07] <liquidfire> HiddenWolf, op terminal
[05:07] <liquidfire> yeah
[05:07] <Seveas> JBLoudG20, clamav
[05:07] <dgottfried> aftertaf: it's shown in /boot/grub/menu.lst as an example.
[05:07] <ofer0> hi, i installed ubuntu from "base system" and i need to know what packages needed for gnome. i already installed: gnome-desktop-environment, x-window-system, gdm & xserver-xorg
[05:07] <JBLoudG20> thanks
[05:07] <Drajka> no.. that's not working
[05:07] <Drajka> cannot open file "file:///dev/hda/"
[05:07] <liquidfire> just enable everything in alsamixer "type alsamixer in the terminal"
[05:07] <bored2k> what file contains gtk+-2.0 ?
[05:07] <AzMoo> Hey people. Is there a way I can extract a whole bunch of tar files at once?
[05:07] <HiddenWolf> liquidfire, Tried that, it's not working
[05:07] <liquidfire> are you sure
[05:07] <liquidfire> it works here
[05:07] <hatake_kakashi> AzMoo, tar -xvf *.tar
[05:07] <HiddenWolf> yes
[05:08] <persia> AzMoo: `for i in *tar; do tar xf $i; done`
[05:08] <liquidfire> what about the graphical version
[05:08] <AzMoo> hatake_kakashi, doesn't work
[05:08] <liquidfire> doubleclick on the speaker icon
[05:08] <aru> AzMoo: I right click and mine and click Extract Here, so I suppose you could highlight a bunch then right click :)
[05:08] <ofer0> please guys nobody knows? im stuck =[
[05:08] <AzMoo> persia, that'll work, cheers :)
[05:08] <liquidfire> in top right if using gnome
[05:08] <hatake_kakashi> AzMoo, bah.. try what persia said
[05:08] <liquidfire> that switch to audigy 2zs
[05:08] <liquidfire> other that that i don't know
[05:08] <liquidfire> =/
[05:08] <f_newton> Viziri, actually nix systems do things a bit differently.   While a few worms are malignant on linux boxes the general rule is that almost every new worm is a strain off of a previous one due to the actual inabilities of malware writers to come up with anything new
[05:08] <nickrud> bored2k, libgtk2.0-0
[05:08] <HiddenWolf> liquidfire, Everything is on, maxed
[05:08] <Drajka> liquidfire, ..
[05:09] <Drajka> I'm completly clueless
[05:09] <Drajka> :S
[05:09] <ofer0> hi, i installed ubuntu from "base system" and i need to know what packages needed for gnome. i already installed: gnome-desktop-environment, x-window-system, gdm & xserver-xorg
[05:09] <liquidfire> HiddenWolf, did you unmute everthing ?
[05:09] <HiddenWolf> yes
[05:09] <liquidfire> Drajka, me too =/
[05:09] <hatake_kakashi> f_newton, and another rule is to avoid doing too many things as root :) which is what ubuntu is already doing
[05:09] <f_newton> Viziri, that fact coupled with the way linux files are written and stored fairly well precludes any major linux problem
[05:09] <liquidfire> HiddenWolf, i don't know that :(
[05:09] <liquidfire> it worked for me
[05:09] <liquidfire> *that=then
[05:09] <bored2k> nickrud, i have libgtk2.0-0 installed, yet my app wont compile :/
[05:10] <f_newton> hatake_kakashi, Ubuntu is a perfect desktop becuase of its disabled root shell.  it is good for users and admin alike
[05:10] <Viziri> didn't realise that f_newton. That's encouraging to know :)
[05:10] <nickrud> bored2k, then libgtk2.0-dev
[05:10] <letschatt> hi everyone how long does it take to recompile a kernel?
[05:11] <ofer0> depends on CPU
[05:11] <bored2k> nickrud, thnx, trying out
[05:11] <letschatt> athlon 600 :(
[05:11] <ofer0> 30 minutes
[05:11] <persia> letschatt: About 45 minutes
[05:11] <aftertaf> dgottfried: thx... will check it out!
[05:11] <ofer0> something like that
[05:11] <dgottfried> aftertaf: np
[05:11] <letschatt> what? are you serious?
[05:11] <f_newton> Viziri, dont misunderstand now, there are insecurities and there are program hacks... but the basic os is fairly free from destruction
[05:11] <hatake_kakashi> f_newton, heh that is somewhat true
[05:11] <nickrud> bored2k, the library stuff needed for compiling will nearly always be in a -dev package.
[05:11] <ofer0> i compiled my kernel on 600mhz P3, and it took me 30 minutes
[05:11] <aftertaf> ;)
[05:12] <bored2k> thanks nickrud
[05:12] <liquidfire> i fucked up when i compiled my kernell =/
[05:12] <liquidfire> couldn't use my mouse or anything
[05:12] <liquidfire> hehe
[05:12] <letschatt> ok i see some make menuconfig options. now these options i suppose are shown if i were to compile my current kernel-source, how do i see what's in my kernel right now?
[05:12] <ofer0> i installed ubuntu from "base system" and i need to know what packages needed for gnome. i already installed: gnome-desktop-environment, x-window-system, gdm & xserver-xorg
[05:13] <persia> letschatt: `zcat /proc/config.gz | less`
[05:13] <letschatt> thanks
[05:13] <nickrud> ofer0, that will get you a basic gnome desktop. Assuming all elsle is well, what you have should be sufficent.
[05:13] <nalioth> nickrud: are you in here causing trouble?
[05:13] <letschatt> config.gz no such file
[05:14] <Gnonthgol> ofer0: you might need nautulus
[05:14] <nickrud> ofer0, if you want what ubuntu considers a gnome desktop, just install ubuntu-desktop.
[05:14] <Frafra> hi all
[05:14] <f_newton> nickrud, what ubuntu "considers" a gnome desktop?
[05:14] <persia> letschatt: My /boot doesn't mount, but I think there's also a /boot/config.<version> file that has the same information.
[05:14] <liquidfire> can i install gnome and kde at the same time Oo?
[05:15] <liquidfire> or would one fuck up the other
[05:15] <nalioth> f_newton: lots of gnome-candy missing
[05:15] <Seveas> liquidfire, you can
[05:15] <ofer0> nickrud: it doesnt work... "no screens found". after checking the logs: "screen found but no usable configuration detected"
[05:15] <nalioth> liquidfire: you can have as many DMs as you can find, and won't hurt anything
[05:15] <liquidfire> ah k
[05:15] <liquidfire> cool :)
[05:15] <aftertaf> ok... got into menu.lst and found the windows example..... new question!
[05:15] <liquidfire> but what about KDM
[05:15] <liquidfire> wouldn't it give a conflict with GDM
[05:15] <ofer0> Gonztel: i have nautilus.. its not it
[05:15] <CameroonLoser> !crossover
[05:15] <ubotu> CameroonLoser: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:16] <ofer0> read the error:
[05:16] <f_newton> nalioth, all I notice is the lack of rh gnome dev... it seems pretty standard ximian to me
[05:16] <CameroonLoser> !crossover office
[05:16] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, CameroonLoser
[05:16] <aftertaf> my zin partition is hda1, do i put (hd0,1)
[05:16] <CameroonLoser> w/e
[05:16] <nickrud> ofer0, that's an X problem; try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to fix it.
[05:16] <letschatt> persia, yeah i see what you're saying. i wish there was a tool to help me understand that file.  i want to be able to set a monitor shutdown and system standby timeout and you need apm or acpi to do it
[05:16] <dgottfried> aftertaf: yup
[05:16] <aftertaf> cheers again mate...
[05:16] <f_newton> CameroonLoser, what about cx office?
[05:16] <nickrud> f_newton, I have a few extra apps installed, that's what I consider a gnome desktop :)
[05:16] <ofer0> nickrud: did it already, 3 times, and im sure that i have putted the right options
[05:16] <aftertaf> and no need to rerun to update it?
[05:16] <letschatt> persia, monitor shutdown and system standby work flawlessly in windows for me.. not in linux
[05:16] <Frafra> excuseme, i must install the driver for a winmodem (intel 536ep). who can help me?
[05:16] <_adam> How can I run script files ending in "SH"?
[05:17] <aftertaf> sudo sh scrpitname.sh
[05:17] <dgottfried> aftertaf: no, grub doesn't need a script to run to initialize things
[05:17] <nickrud> ofer0, I've got a few minutes; how about posting your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on pastebin?
[05:17] <ofer0> _adam: "sh bla.sh"
[05:17] <persia> letschatt: copy this to .config in your kernel directory, and then run menuconfig: it will start with the options in the current kernel
[05:17] <aftertaf> great...
[05:17] <_adam> Do I have to be in the directory running terminal to do it?
[05:17] <liquidfire> if i don't come back in 10 minutes
[05:17] <aftertaf> i uncomment the 'active' and chainloader parts too?
[05:17] <liquidfire> i fucked up my pc
[05:17] <liquidfire> hehe
[05:17] <aftertaf> lol lqf
[05:17] <ofer0> nickrud: i cant, i dont have graphical interface
[05:17] <letschatt> persia, thanks sounds dope
[05:17] <f_newton> liquidfire, please watch the language
[05:18] <liquidfire> sorry :)
[05:18] <liquidfire> I messed up my pc =] 
[05:18] <ubuntuser> what means that packages can't be verified??
[05:18] <ubuntuser> veryfied
[05:18] <nickrud> ofer0, you can run that command on a console.
[05:18] <aftertaf> not signed...
[05:18] <Gnonthgol> ofer0: cltl + alt + F1
[05:18] <ofer0> nickrud: and how do i paste it to pastebin ?
[05:18] <dgottfried> ubuntuser: the sig's on them aren't official ubuntu packages.  Using backports perhaps?
[05:19] <ubuntuser> yhm
[05:19] <ubuntuser> ;] 
[05:19] <ubuntuser> ist sth bad?
[05:19] <ofer0> ubuntuser: it means that you are using backports. that guy that runs this project dont know how to do verification.
[05:19] <persia> ubuntuser: It means the packages aren't signed.  Usually this also means you aren't using a ubuntu repository, and the subtle differences between ubuntu and debian may cause issues.
[05:19] <dgottfried> ubuntuser: nope, it's just a warning is all
[05:19] <_adam> I can't seem to install dvdlibcss, can someone help me
[05:19] <Seveas> _adam, grab it from backports manually
[05:19] <Seveas> libdvdcss2
[05:19] <Drajka> I need help watching a dvd :/
[05:19] <ubuntuser> ;] 
[05:19] <Drajka> And liquidfire ..
[05:20] <Drajka> Compared tome
[05:20] <scale> hey, i installed ubuntu a few days ago and works great so far...
[05:20] <Drajka> You aren't clueless
[05:20] <Drajka> I'm a complete noob
[05:20] <aftertaf> apt-get install lame says lame can't be found :/
[05:20] <scale> except for the sound. i can't get my sound working.
[05:20] <Drajka> Before today
[05:20] <Drajka> I never even booted linux
[05:20] <Drajka> :/
[05:20] <persia> aftertaf: Enable multiverse
[05:20] <scale> any suggestions?
[05:20] <nickrud> ofer0, if all else fails, put it on a floppy and use windows. (There's gotta be a way using w3m or something, but I don't know it :)
[05:20] <aftertaf> persia.. thx, but i have :/
[05:20] <liquidfire> Drajka, me too
[05:20] <liquidfire> i'm just using 2 weeks
[05:20] <aftertaf> says it exists but must be missing or obsolete
[05:21] <persia> !info lame
[05:21] <aftertaf> lame, not multiverse...
[05:21] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[05:21] <_adam> How can I access backports?
[05:21] <scale> same here... 2 days new to linux
[05:21] <liquidfire> I can just choose my DE in the login manager "gdm" ?
[05:21] <liquidfire> And it will work with the other desktops ?
[05:21] <persia> aftertaf: This is in hoary?
[05:21] <aftertaf> scale: what sound card do you have?
[05:21] <Seveas> liquidfire, yup
[05:21] <aftertaf> persia yep
[05:21] <liquidfire> cool :>
[05:21] <aftertaf> weird hu?
[05:22] <liquidfire> Seveas, which one do you use :o?
[05:22] <Seveas> gnome
[05:22] <liquidfire> k
[05:22] <Gnonthgol> I installed hoary yesturday and didnt get the sount to work on my SB Live! It workd on warty.
[05:22] <Seveas> aftertaf, if that is a script: turn it off now
[05:22] <persia> aftertaf: You might try a different mirror, but outside that, I've not a clue.  Apologies.
[05:22] <Determinist> !sound
[05:22] <liquidfire> enlightment is also a DE ?
[05:22] <ubotu> it has been said that sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[05:22] <scale> aftertaf: it's an ac '97 integrated into my MB... the chip is a CMI 9739, if that helps
[05:22] <Seveas> liquidfire, yes
[05:22] <chi> are the forums down? i cant seem to search them at all
[05:22] <Frafra> excuseme, i must install the driver for a winmodem (intel 536ep). who can help me?
[05:23] <liquidfire> k thanks for the help Seveas
[05:23] <liquidfire> =] 
[05:23] <scale> ubotu: i checked out all the wiki stuff on sound problems but none of it has helped me yet
[05:23] <ubotu> scale: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:23] <Determinist> any idea if we're going to have drivers for those new nifty X-Fi sound cards anytime soon?
[05:23] <liquidfire> !dma
[05:23] <Drajka> liquidfire, ... you don't understand... I'm much more n00b lol
[05:23] <Frafra> !winmodem
[05:23] <ubotu> No idea, Frafra
[05:23] <scale> i checked out the wiki info on sound problems on hoary but it hasn't helped me yet...
[05:23] <Frafra> !linmodem
[05:23] <ubotu> Frafra: Are you smoking crack?
[05:23] <nalioth> liquidfire: enlightenment, xfce4, fluxbox, blackbox, etc etc
[05:23] <liquidfire> Drajka, type !sound
[05:23] <liquidfire> and read it
[05:23] <liquidfire> maybe there is something usefull
[05:23] <Seveas> scale, please note that ubotu is a bot :)
[05:23] <scale> ahh
[05:23] <Determinist> lol
[05:23] <scale> hehe
[05:23] <chi> !ubuntu forums
[05:23] <ubotu> chi: Not a clue
[05:23] <Coyctecm> what?spamming here?damn
[05:23] <Frafra> !modem
[05:23] <ubotu> Frafra: Not a clue
[05:23] <Coyctecm> scriptkiddies
[05:24] <_adam> !lindvdcss
[05:24] <ubotu> _adam: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:24] <scale> seveas: thanks... are you a person? or a bot whose purpose is to tell people ubotu is a bot? hehe
[05:24] <ofer0> ok guys thanx anyway, X is running. there was a problem with GLCore module probably...
[05:24] <_adam> !libdvdcss
[05:24] <ubotu> _adam: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:24] <Determinist> scale: he's a person.
[05:24] <Seveas> scale, some say I'm a highly advanced AI
[05:24] <nalioth> scale: seveas is advanced
[05:24] <Seveas> others think i'm a person
[05:24] <aftertaf> lol
[05:24] <_adam> !libdvdcss3
[05:24] <aftertaf> ubotu is a good bot?
[05:24] <ubotu> _adam: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:24] <ubotu> :)
[05:24] <aftertaf> or a dark side anakin style ot?
[05:25] <Gnonthgol> !ubotu
[05:25] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:25] <_adam> Hey seveas, check your pm
[05:25] <Seveas> don't play with the bot
[05:25] <chi> !mount bin
[05:25] <ubotu> chi: Wish i knew
[05:25] <Seveas> _adam, unsollicited pm's are ignored..
[05:25] <Drajka> I don't need sou nd though ;X
[05:25] <Drajka> The video wont play :S
[05:25] <aftertaf> lol drak
[05:25] <Drajka> weoll...
[05:25] <Drajka> I suppose sound is important..
[05:25] <Drajka> ;x
[05:25] <paganini> Has anyone here been able to get midi working with a SouldBlasterLive card?
[05:25] <Drajka> But the video is the most important part for a video =x
[05:25] <chi> how would i go about mounting a .bin .cue ?
[05:25] <letschatt> persia, i have 2.6.10-5 kernel that came with ubuntu. if i recompile mine will i have 2 kernels on my pc - the first one being redundant?
[05:26] <paganini> I've searched around the forums and the net, and this seems like an old problem. But I couldn't find a solution.
[05:26] <_adam> Can you help me access backports seveas?
[05:26] <aftertaf> !lame
[05:26] <ubotu> I don't know, aftertaf
[05:26] <liquidfire> oops
[05:26] <liquidfire> now all my kde apps are appearing in gnome
[05:27] <persia> letschatt: If you install a second kernel, you will usually be able to choose between them in your boot manager (grub, lilo, yaboot, etc.).  I don't recommend uninstalling the default until you know yours is working well.
[05:27] <Seveas> _adam, backports.ubuntuforums.prg
[05:27] <Seveas> org*
[05:27] <zerboxx> To install something, I need my kernel source or headers, where would I find these?
[05:27] <aftertaf> brenner!! you"re a serial kille rin a bokk i just finished :)
[05:27] <aftertaf> lol
[05:27] <paganini> Borkk! Borkk! Borkk!
[05:27] <chi> zerboxx apt-get instal yourkernal-headers
[05:27] <letschatt> persia, so the compilation command i am assuming is make and make install to compile i suppose
[05:28] <persia> letschatt: Do you have kernel-package installed?
[05:28] <Seveas> aftertaf, switch of the public away announce crap
[05:28] <zerboxx> chi: Perfect! And what is the best way to find "yourkernel"?
[05:28] <Seveas> uname -r
[05:28] <persia> letschatt: If so, you probably want to read the docs it installs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package before doing anything.
[05:28] <paganini> zerboxx uname -r
[05:28] <chi> uname -r
[05:29] <brenner> :)
[05:29] <chi> heh im slow
[05:29] <letschatt> no i don't :( just source, image and headers
[05:29] <liquidfire> anybody knows howto stop kde apps apreaing in gnome :/?
[05:29] <persia> letschatt: You will want to install it.  It will make a deb for you to install or remove (or otherwise manage), and take care of updating your boot manager, etc.
[05:30] <letschatt> that's cool thanks i'll look at into. man this takes a loooot of time :P
[05:30] <aftertaf> ok, no sweat!!
[05:31] <cyphase> are there any plans in ubuntu to allow non-admin users to install software on their account?
[05:31] <brenner> anyway, how'd i get sent to #ubuntu-unregged when i was already registered with nickserv?
[05:31] <Seveas> brenner, you did not identify
[05:31] <cyphase> hmm, nvm
[05:31] <_adam> brenner, you have to use the nicserv identify command
[05:31] <aftertaf> he IS a bot !!
[05:31] <aftertaf>  :)
[05:31] <DjKritical> what comes after 'make install'?
[05:32] <Seveas> shutdown -h now
[05:32] <aftertaf> DJK: prayers!
[05:32] <brenner> ah, my auto-identify must've been turned off somehow
[05:32] <DjKritical> o_O?
[05:33] <carnilo> Determinist: sorry to bother again, but now I have php -version working.
[05:33] <DjKritical> but seriously, what usually comes after make install?
[05:33] <Determinist> carnilo: that's good
[05:33] <aftertaf> djk: if you have lili, run lilo.
[05:33] <persia> DjKritical: $program &
[05:33] <aftertaf> otherwise, reboot... i think!
[05:33] <brenner> DJ_Mirage: *cough* if it successfully installed, run the program
[05:33] <Determinist> carnilo: ok, create test.php file with <?php phpinfo(); ?>  in it and put it in /var/www/
[05:33] <DjKritical> I was running through the Wine compile script.. and it goes "enter your root password".... now we all know ubuntu doesn't have a root acount =)
[05:34] <DjKritical> so I did the make install myself
[05:34] <DjKritical> and no more instructions?
[05:34] <carnilo> no, doesn't work
[05:34] <brenner> isn't wine in the repos?
[05:34] <DjKritical> yeah but it didn't work for me using the distros
[05:34] <DjKritical> bash: wine: command not found
[05:34] <DjKritical> there must be another step?
[05:34] <Determinist> carnilo: does apache work right tho? can you serve pages?
[05:35] <carnilo> yep
[05:35] <DjKritical> (also the wine distros are VERY outdated)
[05:35] <aftertaf> which repository is lame in again???
[05:35] <neo78> hello folks!
[05:35] <carnilo> Determinist:  plain html works fine
[05:35] <Seveas> !info lame
[05:35] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[05:35] <Determinist> carnilo: gimme a sec
[05:35] <chi> how can i mount .bin .cue files?
[05:35] <Seveas> aftertaf, so it's multiverse
[05:35] <persia> DjKritical: If you built from ubuntu source (apt-get build-dep wine; apt-get -b install wine), it would "just work", or not.  `make install` goes well into needing upstream documentation.
[05:35] <Seveas> chi, you convert them to an iso with bchunk
[05:35] <chi> werd thanks
[05:35] <Seveas> and then you can mount them
[05:35] <aftertaf> i'm sure ive enabled multiverse...
[05:36] <aftertaf> checking my sources.lst
[05:36] <shefa> nalioth, : How are you man
[05:36] <DjKritical> persia: well it didn't "just work" from the distros.. I got errors... and also it's an older version which doesn't have opengl compiled?... this is what I've been told anyway
[05:37] <shefa> nalioth, Thnaks again about last night's help
[05:37] <aftertaf> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:37] <DjKritical> persia, what will those apt-get commands do for me? do you suggest I try them?
[05:37] <aftertaf> should i add multiverse to the end?
[05:37] <shefa> Hi everybody
[05:38] <nalioth> shefa: np, glad to
[05:38] <brenner> ubotu: tell aftertaf about repos
[05:38] <nalioth> shefa: just hang out and help others is all i ask
[05:38] <DjKritical> persia: well I'm trying them (with sudo included ofcourse)
[05:38] <neo78> dang, linux dc++ is pretty featureless compared to strong dc++ for windows
[05:38] <letschatt> any xfce4 users here?
[05:39] <DjKritical> /usr/bin/wineprefixcreate: line 168:  8257 Segmentation fault      ${WINELOADER:-wine} rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultInstall 128 wine.inf
[05:39] <aftertaf> thx brenner
[05:39] <DjKritical> back to where I started 6 hours ago!
[05:39] <nalioth> letschatt: ask your question
[05:39] <shefa> Listen, gyes, how can is there a menu in Ubuntu(gnome) to configure my video card. I'm using ATI wih video out. I want to enable the video out
[05:39] <DjKritical> and it's 3am!
[05:39] <persia> DjKritical: I'm not sure why not, but I don't use wine.  The build logs seem to indicate that it built successfully.  The commands I suggested would compile locally using ubuntu sources: I don't know if this is helpful to you now.  My apologies.
[05:39] <shefa> nalioth, NP man. You got. I'll try to help as much as I can
[05:39] <Determinist> carnilo: look if you have the files php4.conf and php4.load under /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[05:39] <letschatt> nalioth, do you mean use ? symbols
[05:40] <DjKritical> persia: I honestly don't know how to do that... I just tried compiling the source directly from the winehq site... which has taken me almost an hour...
[05:40] <aftertaf> brenner: i dont have a settings button and synaptic dont look that way...
[05:40] <DjKritical> persia: like I said.. it stopped when it needed to be root... because ubuntu doesn't even have a root account
[05:40] <aftertaf> i have to add the categories myself...
[05:40] <carnilo> Determinist: I don't have php4.load
[05:40] <Determinist> DjKritical: actually, you can enable the root account if you absolutely have to
[05:41] <carnilo> let me check what to do ...
[05:41] <brenner> aftertaf: ubotu should have given you a pastebin link to a sample sources.list, you can check with that
[05:41] <Determinist> carnilo: ok, can you create a file called that? i'll paste you the content in PM
[05:41] <aftertaf> ok cheers!
[05:41] <Seveas> carnilo, sudo a2enmod php4
[05:41] <aftertaf> ubotu definitely not darkside then ;)
[05:41] <ubotu> aftertaf: What?
[05:41] <aftertaf> hehe
[05:41] <persia> DjKritical: ubuntu does have a root account, it just doesn't have a password.  You can set a password if you need, but there ought to be a way to get wine to work without it.  If you need to set the password, try `sudo passwd root`, but realize this is a bit of a security issue, as then your root account is enabled.
[05:41] <nalioth> letschatt: gnome doesnt take up all that much room, just log into xfce4 instead
[05:42] <nalioth> letschatt: also, gnome progs work under xfce4
[05:42] <Seveas> DjKritical, alias su sudo
[05:42] <Seveas> then start the wine install script
[05:42] <letschatt> nalioth, fair enough. i'll keep it for now
[05:43] <lee> how do you unpack a debian package?  that is, I want to just get at the contents of the package, NOT install it anywhere
[05:43] <Seveas> dpkg-deb -x
[05:43] <f_newton> use an archive manager
[05:43] <Seveas> or: ar x
[05:44] <Lefungus> hello, I was wondering if I can safely use sendmail to send emails with ubuntu hoary instead of my isp smtp server ?
[05:44] <chi> thanks Seveas its working perfectly ;] 
[05:44] <letschatt> lee, see apt-get options there's a download only i think
[05:44] <Lefungus> and what are the disadvantages of using sendmail with evolution ?
[05:44] <letschatt> lee, there's a dpkg option to unpack
[05:44] <lee> thanks Seveas
[05:44] <persia> Lefungus: sendmail.conf
[05:44] <lee> letschatt: yeah, the --unpack option wante dto unpack the files in their place, -x was it =)
[05:45] <shefa> nalioth: , how can is there a menu in Ubuntu(gnome) to configure my video card. I'm using ATI wih video out. I want to enable the video out
[05:46] <Determinist> shefa: you need the ATI drivers installed
[05:46] <nalioth> Lefungus: most folks don't accept email from local servers (spam risk is high)
[05:46] <Determinist> !ati
[05:46] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:46] <nalioth> shefa: i'm not so advanced about video, sorry
[05:46] <Lefungus> nalioth, thanks, that's the kind of things I was afraid of
[05:47] <shefa> Determinist: I do have them installed, I even installed some other add on, for te TV Out, but for some reson i don't know how to configure it. In KDE there is an option where tou can do that, but n gnome, i can't find it
[05:48] <Determinist> shefa: hmmm, if memory doesnt fail me , that ATI installer adds an ATI control panel that has that option. dont have an ATI card anymore so cant really say right now
[05:48] <shefa> nalioth, Ok, Thanks. Any idea hoe can I make Ttem or MEdia player to read non-Unicode ecoding for meta tagsa-ISO-8859-1
[05:48] <DjKritical> persia, IT WORKS!!!!!
[05:48] <shefa> Determinist, Where did you get the drivers though
[05:49] <DjKritical> persia, I was being silly.. and didn't notice the file named 'wine'
[05:49] <Determinist> shefa: hmm, ATI site, actually...
[05:49] <heartEye> How do I get better drivers for my monitor so that i can increase the screen size from 600x400 to 1000x700?
[05:49] <shefa> Determinist, Tey don't support anymore the drivers for my card for Linux-any other places
[05:49] <nalioth> shefa: you've lost me. i dont speak those languages
[05:49] <Paprika> How do I change the system charset? I want ISO 8859-1 instead of UTF-8.
[05:49] <shefa> nalioth,
[05:49] <brenner> shefa: question is, where did *you* get your drivers from?
[05:49] <Seveas> Paprika, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:49] <aftertaf> dpkg-reconfigure locales ??
[05:49] <nalioth> heartEye: what card to you have?
[05:50] <aftertaf> yesssssssss
[05:50] <brenner> heartEye: usually don't need to
[05:50] <Determinist> shefa: what card is that?
[05:50] <[czech] mila> hello
[05:50] <brenner> ubotu: tell heartEye about fixres
[05:50] <shefa> nalioth, hahahhahahha. Basicly what it does is making the program able to read different fonts than latin
[05:50] <ssb_> hello there
[05:50] <shefa> Determinist, ATI Rage 128
[05:50] <ompaul> hellp ssb_
[05:50] <Determinist> shefa: dear god lol
[05:51] <carnilo> thanks Determinist, thanks Seveas
[05:51] <[czech] mila> i have problem with system variables and I don't know ho to solve that problem (i'm new debian user (gentoo previous))
[05:51] <Determinist> shefa: just go get some FX5200 for like 20$ or something mate
[05:51] <shefa> Determinist, Hahahahhaha, I know, time to upgrade
[05:51] <[czech] mila> can anybody help me please?
[05:51] <Determinist> carnilo: np mate, have fun :)
[05:51] <Determinist> [czech] mila: with?
[05:51] <ompaul> !tell [czech] mila about ask
[05:51] <Determinist> heh, with that nick the bot went on vacation lol
[05:51] <heartEye> rumour has it that:thank you brenner and ubotu
[05:52] <[czech] mila> i would like to set an enviromental property (JAVA_HOME, CATALINA_HOME) and i would like to create start script for Tomcat
[05:52] <ssb_> question please? can anyone show me just how to install java on ubuntu as i am very new to ubuntu and linux :) please
[05:52] <[czech] mila> but the catalina.sh say me, that the JAVA_HOME is not set
[05:53] <[czech] mila> when I run: su - wwwuser -c "echo $JAVA_HOME" i got the right value
[05:53] <Determinist> !java
[05:53] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:53] <nalioths_dog> ssb_: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 
[05:53] <Determinist> ssb_: that ubotu just said
[05:53] <ssb_> thx ubotu
[05:54] <ompaul> ssb_, ubotu is the channel bot
[05:54] <ssb_> ok ;_)
[05:54] <[czech] mila> ubotu: i read this manuall before
[05:54] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, [czech] mila
[05:55] <Determinist> ahh crap, i'm toast, late for a BBQ dinner with my GF's folks :O
[05:55] <Determinist> bbl guys
[05:55] <brenner> Determinist: at 3am?
[05:55] <ompaul> Deter[LATE] , ehh you could determine that :)
[05:55] <scale> hah. when computer fights girlfriend, girlfriend wins... but not immediately.
[05:55] <Deter[LATE] > brenner: try 7 PM here... Israel Time
[05:55] <brenner> sorry, was DjKritical who said that :D
[05:56] <QMario> Hello Seveas. :)
[05:57] <QMario> How do I change the graphics card driver for my computer?
[05:57] <QMario> I am using Hoary Ubuntu Linux.
[05:57] <aftertaf> back in 5, testing grub.....
[05:57] <QMario> Is there something similar to YaST2 on Ubuntu?
[05:57] <aftertaf> can u have a graphical menu with grub, buy the way?
[05:57] <Deter[LATE] > phew, it's at 8
[05:58] <QMario> Aftertaf, it depends on what you mean by graphical. ;)
[05:58] <ompaul> QMario, there are several tools - part of yast2 do you want
[05:58] <Determinist> QMario: apt-get? synaptic (GUI)?
[05:58] <nalioth> QMario: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose your poison (i like VESA)
[05:59] <aftertaf> as in, with a picture and all...
[05:59] <ompaul> QMario, which configuration do you want to change?
[05:59] <aftertaf> splashimage (hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash/grub-debian.xpm.gz
[05:59] <Determinist> aftertaf: not that i know.
[05:59] <QMario> Ompaul, I want to use the 3d acceleration.
[05:59] <aftertaf> found it.
[05:59] <aftertaf> goooooogle :)
[05:59] <QMario> s/d/D
[06:00] <hybrid_goth> where is the link to the torrent downloads?
[06:00] <Determinist> erm, isnt yast like yum??
[06:00] <QMario> Aftertaf, I was trying to be funny...
[06:00] <persia> aftertaf: You can, but it's not set up by default.  I haven't used it in a couple years, but the explanation I used last time I set it up was in the grub-doc pacakge.
[06:00] <hybrid_goth> Determinist: iirc YAST > YUM
[06:00] <ompaul> QMario, so question one is what kind of graphic card do you have
[06:00] <Determinist> hybrid_goth: same functionality tho?
[06:00] <JBLoudG20>  i have another question... when I go to print (i'm using cups) i am able to print one document, then after that the prineter is "stopped" and wont accept another job until I reboot... anyone know why?
[06:01] <Belutz> !sources
[06:01] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:01] <hybrid_goth> Determinist: err i think YaST does more
[06:01] <hybrid_goth> !torrents
[06:01] <ubotu> hybrid_goth: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:01] <Determinist> hybrid_goth: like what? make coffee?
[06:01] <QMario> Ompaul, Nvidia GeForce2.
[06:01] <QMario> !graphics
[06:01] <ubotu> QMario: Are you on ritalin?
[06:01] <QMario> !video
[06:01] <ubotu> QMario: I give up, what is it?
[06:01] <Determinist> QMario:  just install the nvidia drivers
[06:01] <QMario> !DVD
[06:01] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[06:02] <Paprika> Now I have only one more question, I think.
[06:02] <hybrid_goth> Determinist: lol iirc but i am not for sure, YUM is mainly package management when YaST does .rpms and networking and hardware config etc
[06:02] <QMario> Determinist, where?
[06:02] <ompaul> Determinist, yast2 convers everything from setting up disks through package management and all the way to X configuration back across to network setup back out to repository management (except they don't call it that) and around to what can be found in gnome-control-centre
[06:02] <QMario> !Botsnack
[06:02] <hybrid_goth> YaST installs SuSe
[06:02] <ubotu> :)
[06:02] <Belutz> !wine
[06:02] <hybrid_goth> !download
[06:02] <ubotu> I guess download is get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:02] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: what are you after?
[06:02] <cyphase> very nice
[06:02] <ompaul> !tell QMario about nvidia
[06:02] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: the torrent link
[06:03] <Paprika> On boot, Ubuntu seems to edit resolv.conf. How can I stop it from doing that?
[06:03] <Determinist> QMario: www.ubuntuforums.org , go for customization section, there's a list of howtos, one of those is the nvidia drivers howto
[06:03] <Determinist> ompaul: i see
[06:04] <ssb_> hello again is it me or did anyone experience this problem, if i click on any link with mozilla firefox. it takes a longtime for the page to display, i mean any link at all, but if i use the same link in windows with IE it works, is it a known bug?
[06:04] <JBLoudG20> it seems as if there is a problem with CUPS, after one prnt job
[06:04] <hybrid_goth> what is on the DVD compared to the CD?
[06:04] <persia> Could anyone help me troubleshoot problems mounting /boot under 2.6.12-7?  I have confirmed it's not a hardware problem by booting many times under 2.6.10, all with successful /boot mounts.  The only message I receive is "/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0: p1".
[06:04] <Alternity> what does cogent mean in relation to dns and BIND?
[06:05] <Determinist> ssb_: depends on the link. if the page doesnt support any non-IE pages
[06:05] <QMario> Okay, thank you ompaul, Determinist, and the rest. Let me restart Gnome right now.... :)
[06:05] <ompaul> Determinist, it is to put it politely a one stop shop
[06:05] <Determinist> ompaul: sounds nice actually.
[06:05] <brenner> JBLoudG20: google/search the forum while you wait
[06:05] <Determinist> ompaul: but could be a source for many problems
[06:05] <ompaul> Determinist, and some days it is nice and on others it will break your heart
[06:06] <ssb_> example this link : http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp and any link on the page for me to download the java bin it just hangs :-(
[06:06] <ompaul> Determinist, however I have not had those days in quite a while :)
[06:06] <Determinist> dunno why, but it keeps pissing me off that there are too many esoteric linux projects out there instead of just afew good and strong ones :/
[06:07] <Determinist> ompaul: you a Suse user?
[06:07] <brenner> persia: could be wrong, but sounds like a kernel bug if .10 works fine
[06:07] <ompaul> Determinist, it is something called freedom
[06:07] <ompaul> Determinist, not for a long time
[06:07] <f_newton> Determinist, there are several very good linux offerings circulating the popular schools of linuxfish
[06:07] <persia> brenner: Any ideas what information would be helpful to submit a bug?  I don't want to just complain if I can help fix it.
[06:07] <Determinist> ompaul: ohh, i know. but there's something else called common good and having a PPC distro 4 people use isnt what i would call common sense or good decision making.
[06:08] <ompaul> Determinist, four - heh that number is a little low
[06:08] <Determinist> ompaul: fine, 20 lol
[06:08] <brenner> persia: i haven't dealt with kernel bugs, but i'd google the heck out of the error you get before you submit a bug. :)
[06:08] <ssb_> we all need to help one another to get linux off the ground and attract more people to use linux :-)
[06:08] <Determinist> still. good open source programmers are so scarce and yet so scattered
[06:08] <ompaul> Determinist, if something did not do the job you want you can if you have the skills do it, if not pay for it, or get skills or money to make it happen
[06:09] <f_newton> Determinist, I am confused... what ARE you talking about?
[06:09] <aftertaf> qpaul: ok :) hehe being dense !
[06:09] <persia> brenner: Nothing in google posted in the 2.6 series :(
[06:09] <ssb_> lol Determinist lolllll
[06:09] <aftertaf> !grub
[06:09] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:09] <Determinist> f_newton: the number of small linux distros hardly used that contribute just about nothing to the big picture
[06:10] <QMario> Ompaul, why were we spammed?
[06:10] <QMario> !Nvidia
[06:10] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:10] <Determinist> ompaul: making my first steps in learning the API and gnome programming, should try and attempt doing something productive with the knowledge soon
[06:10] <QMario> !Botsnack
[06:10] <ubotu> :)
[06:10] <aftertaf> ok, testing grub...
[06:10] <f_newton> most of the small distro releases are efforts by individuals to build their own linux os... some of them turn out to be winners.... like debian for example ...
[06:10] <JBLoudG20> soo ive googled like mad, can't find a solution
[06:10] <ompaul> ompaul, I had ubotu send you a message to tell you what you had asked about -
[06:10] <thesamet> Is it usual to submit bug report about out of date version of a package in breezy?
[06:11] <ssb_> the only problem most people find with linux, is that it doesn't have installers like in windows, and you have to know the command lines to be able to install the very basic things such as java Jre or any other plugin shame shame :-(
[06:11] <f_newton> I think Determinist you are not looking at the big picture with a wide angle lense
[06:11] <ompaul> ssb_, incorrect, you have to know that you can use synaptic
[06:11] <QMario> Ompaul, are you talking to yourself?
[06:11] <QMario> !Spam
[06:11] <ubotu> Not a clue, QMario
[06:11] <er0mmer> gday ompaul
[06:11] <QMario> !Snack
[06:11] <ubotu> QMario: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:12] <Determinist> f_newton: well, perhaps
[06:12] <QMario> !Ubotu
[06:12] <ompaul> QMario, I am getting confussed :)
[06:12] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:12] <f_newton> ssb that really isnt true either
[06:12] <QMario> !Discovery
[06:12] <ubotu> QMario: Wish i knew
[06:12] <f_newton> it is a lot easier to make one package fit all by making sh installers and tar.gz files instead of deb files and rpm files etc
[06:12] <QMario> Ompaul, how did we get spammed?
[06:13] <ompaul> QMario, in #ubuntu-unregged?
[06:13] <Determinist> f_newton: it's just my feeling that so much more could be accomplished if people just sat and talked. i mean, yes, freedom is fantastic and all, but think of how much more could be accomplished if more programmers spent time debugging and fixing existing distros instead of going and making their own
[06:13] <dwerf> that spambot is incredibly annoying
[06:13] <brenner> persia: in that case, filing a bug report might be the way to go....do you really need to use the .12 kernel?
[06:14] <nalioth> dwerf: register with nickserv and set yourself +CE
[06:14] <ssb_> Brb
[06:14] <QMario> Ompaul, yes.
[06:14] <dwerf> nalioth > i know, i was just complaining, thanx
[06:14] <persia> brenner: Nothing less supports my hardware, and I don't like to compile the upstream sources, so haven't tried anything newer.  I'll go look at some kernel bugs...
[06:15] <ompaul> QMario, if you are referring to  #ubuntu-unregged then point at some kiddie who thinks it is l33t to screw around with 400 peoples days because they can with their network of broken windows boxes most likely
[06:15] <brenner> persia: *nod* good luck
[06:15] <dwerf> what would be a good alternative if i don't like gftp, but want an advanced and graphical ftp app?
[06:15] <Determinist> dwerf: wish i knew. been looking for one myself
[06:16] <filip_> how can i run c:/pm/PM99.exe in wine?
[06:16] <dwerf> Determinist > it's just so ... click intensive
[06:16] <nalioth> dwerf: try kftpgrabber
[06:16] <dwerf> nalioth > thanks
[06:17] <Determinist> dwerf: ohh, i know. very unintuitive and feels like you gotta do too many things to accomplish simple tasks
[06:17] <dwerf> nalioth > it's not in synaptic
[06:17] <zerboxx> I was wondering.  If I'm connected through a router, my internal IP address keeps changing (...100, ...101 etc) is it possible to have it always give me the same one?
[06:18] <QMario> Ompaul, what is your idea?
[06:18] <FlexionDotOrg> dwerf: nautilus and gnome vfs make a nice ftp client.
[06:18] <delltony> zerboxx, yes you set it to static
[06:18] <nalioth> dwerf: lots of good things arent in the repos
[06:18] <delltony> in the /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:18] <nmoore> zerboxx: couldn't you decline to use DHCP, just choose an address statically
[06:18] <dwerf> nalioth > i'll google it
[06:19] <JBLoudG20> any ideas why cups would die after one print job?
[06:19] <nmoore> zerboxx: my router also allows an address to be assigned to a particular MAC address
[06:19] <nalioth> dwerf: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//kftpgrabber.sourceforge.net/&ei=a5IQQ_SLGKWMsgH74MyrCg
[06:19] <filip_> does someone know about wine?
[06:19] <dwerf> nalioth > you're so fast...
[06:19] <redguy> zerboxx: or you could configure your router so it assigns the same IP to your network card
[06:19] <FlexionDotOrg> filip_: Yes, whats up?
[06:19] <persia> Does bugzilla share authentication services with malone?
[06:19] <zerboxx> redguy, nmoore: I'm trying to figure that out with my linksys router..so I assume MAC address wont change ever?
[06:19] <nalioth_zZz> y'all be good
[06:20] <nmoore> zerboxx: it stays the same as long as you keep the same interface card
[06:20] <brenner> dwerf: his girlfriend says that too ;)
[06:20] <nalioth_zZz> brenner: that's girlfriend(S)
[06:20] <filip_> FlexionDotOrg: i whant to run the c/pm/PM99.exe
[06:20] <zerboxx> nmoore: Perfect! Now to figure out if mine can do that ;)
[06:20] <FlexionDotOrg> what is PM99.exe?
[06:20] <nmoore> zerboxx: best bet is probably to locate the router manual
[06:20] <dwerf> nalioth > that looks very good!
[06:20] <dwerf> nalioth > must i compile it myself?
[06:20] <brenner> hehe
[06:20] <filip_> an game.
[06:21] <ompaul> FlexionDotOrg,  a virus or worm more than likely
[06:21] <delltony> anyone here have an older v220 motorola phone? my company gave me this crap phone and i'm wanting to pull some pictures off it and my understanding is moto4lin supports it but when i put the p2k id and the at id in there and do an update list i don't see the phone listed at all as i do with my v551. i have the device set to /dev/ttyACM0 it works fine with my v551 but the v220 no luck
[06:21] <nalioth_zZz> dwerf: if you are looking for cool things NOT in the repos, search sourceforge.net or freshmeat.net
[06:21] <Gnonthgol> zerboxx: you have to tell dhcpclient your mac addres
[06:21] <redguy> zerboxx: by reading your router docs?
[06:21] <nalioth_zZz> goodnight
[06:21] <QMario> Ompaul, how do I know what kernel version I am running?
[06:21] <zerboxx> Gnonthgol: ...what? :)
[06:21] <FlexionDotOrg> ompaul: Yep, which is why I was asking ;-)
[06:21] <brenner> nalioth_zZz: night
[06:21] <delltony> uname -a
[06:21] <QMario> Good night.
[06:21] <ompaul> QMario, uname -a
[06:21] <filip_> FlexionDotOrg: you know how to do?
[06:22] <QMario>  kik 
[06:22] <FlexionDotOrg> filip_: First of all you need to be sure Wine is configured correctly.
[06:22] <brenner> neat quavers
[06:22] <brenner> or whatever they're called
[06:22] <FlexionDotOrg> I suggest you use wine-sidenet to do that.
[06:22] <Gnonthgol> zerboxx: the dhcp client have to send your mac adress to the dhcp server. you can chose the mac addres to send in the config file
[06:22] <QMario> Ompaul, have you hear of PlaneShift before?
[06:23] <hybrid_goth> brenner: yea my ex girlfriend told him that too
[06:23] <FlexionDotOrg> I also don't use the wine version in the repos, use The October 19th 2004 version.
[06:23] <delltony> zerboxx, why not just make it real simple like i told you and just change the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[06:23] <ompaul> QMario, no - why would it interest me?
[06:23] <redguy> Gnonthgol: not always true, I think
[06:23] <filip_> FlexionDotOrg: why dont use the new?
[06:23] <dwerf> nalioth_zZz > i've never manually installed in linux - where do i place the files?
[06:23] <bjw> what library is needed for kde so that i can easily remove anything dealing w/ kde
[06:23] <bjw> kdebase?
[06:23] <delltony> just change dhcp to static then give it an ip address subnet and gateway and thats it
[06:23] <hybrid_goth> nalioth is a pimp
[06:24] <FlexionDotOrg> It breaks alot of stuff.
[06:24] <filip_> okej.
[06:24] <FlexionDotOrg> The Octber 19th 2004 version is known to be stable for most things.
[06:24] <zerboxx> delltony: What will happen if I connect directly, then wont it be looking for that static ip?
[06:24] <Gnonthgol> redguy: I had to, but some instll programs could have done it
[06:24] <QMario> Ompaul, it is a god game for Linux.
[06:24] <QMario> s/god/good
[06:24] <delltony> its just assigning your computer to that ip much like your doing with the dhcpclient assigning it
[06:24] <FlexionDotOrg> filip_: Give me a few mins. I will post my Wine guide on my website...
[06:24] <brenner> dwerf: that's called installing from source.  you can use checkinstall to make a nice deb package which you can then install with dpkg -i
[06:25] <brenner> dwerf: most apps should have a readme file or isntall documentation you can read
[06:25] <filip_> FlexionDotOrg: ok, nice of you
[06:25] <ompaul> QMario, it has licence issues not in th code but the images
[06:26] <nalioth_zZz> brenner: actually, the ubuntu checkinstall installs the debs it makes
[06:26] <FlexionDotOrg> filip_: I have some Ubuntu stuff available here : http://www.flexion.plus.com/
[06:26] <delltony> you beat me to it
[06:26] <delltony> thats what i was gonna say :
[06:26] <FlexionDotOrg> You want this page : http://www.flexion.plus.com/windows.html
[06:26] <delltony> checkinstall is nice
[06:27] <bigmouth000> hey. while using synaptic, i installed enlightenment with a few other themes
[06:27] <brenner> nalioth_zZz: neat
[06:27] <bigmouth000> where do i access those seperately installed themes ?
[06:27] <brenner> nalioth_zZz: get to work you lazy bum. :)
[06:27] <delltony> not to bash windows or anythinig but my buddy has hosed his system about 10 times this year and i got tired of messing with his problems and gave him ubuntu haven't heard from him in about 5 months
[06:27] <dv_> hi
[06:27] <zerboxx> delltony: I can figure out the IP I want, and I assume just use the same subnet that dhcp automatically gives, but what about gateway? How can I figure out what to put there?
[06:28] <delltony> the gateway iis your router
[06:28] <dv_> is it possible to find out which packages need to be downloaded?
[06:28] <Seveas> delltony, *g*
[06:28] <delltony> example 192.168.1.1
[06:28] <dv_> I cant download 267 MB here
[06:28] <nalioth_zZz> brenner: i work at 18hrs local
[06:28] <zerboxx> delltony: Oh ok, thanks
[06:28] <nalioth_zZz> night again
[06:28] <dv_> but I can in the university network
[06:28] <delltony> np
[06:28] <dv_> however, I need a list of files to be downloaded
[06:28] <brenner> nalioth_zZz: later
[06:28] <bigmouth000> where to the themes installed for enlightenment via synaptic go to ?
[06:28] <delltony> zerboxx, after you do that then you need to of course save the file you edited
[06:29] <delltony> and then sudo ifdown <yourcardhere>
[06:29] <brenner> dv_: packages for what?
[06:29] <delltony> then sudo ifup <yourcardhere>
[06:29] <dwerf> brenner > why the hell does ubuntu, after "sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall", ask for my ubuntu-cd?
[06:29] <dv_> brenner, KDE, anjuta, libfox, etc. etc.
[06:30] <redguy> dwerf: because you have it in your sources.list file
[06:30] <dv_> I cant find a switch in apt-get which shows me the files
[06:30] <delltony> the files as what it downloads?
[06:30] <dv_> yes
[06:30] <dwerf> where is that file and how do skip?
[06:30] <dwerf> i skip
[06:30] <dv_> since I need to know what I have to download in the university
[06:30] <delltony> apt-cache show <packagename>
[06:30] <Gnonthgol> dwerf: try puting the cd line at the botom of the sources.list file
[06:30] <dv_> (cant move the computer over there :) )
[06:31] <dwerf> thanx
[06:31] <delltony> or dpkg -L <packagename>
[06:31] <delltony> its l or L
[06:31] <delltony> i forget
[06:31] <brenner> dv_: you probably mean downloading packages for local install ... that's gonna be icky :)
[06:31] <dv_> yeah
[06:31] <brenner> dpkg -L for a package already installed
[06:31] <hellekin> dwerf simply comment the CD line (starting with #), than sudo apt-get update
[06:31] <hellekin> then =then
[06:31] <dwerf> thanx
[06:31] <hellekin> oops
[06:31] <bigmouth000> anyone have an idea bout installing themes for guifications in gaim ?
[06:31] <brenner> apt-cache show package name for the list of depended pacakges
[06:31] <bigmouth000> i got an xml file here
[06:31] <dv_> hm
[06:31] <dv_> I dont have kubuntu-desktop installed
[06:32] <bigmouth000> shouldn't there be a noob room or something for tiny queries ?
[06:32] <h0sl3r> My school has wireless with WEP security. I use to be able to get on before they enabled the WEP key. All the Windows computers can successfully connect, but my ubuntu computer still does not connect even after I enter the WEP. Do linux need a different format?
[06:33] <delltony> did you use iwconfig?
[06:33] <hellekin> bigmouth000 I guess there is the Search feature of the website?
[06:33] <brenner> dv_: apt-cache show it ... you need all those packages in the depends: section....gross
[06:33] <dv_> ow
[06:33] <delltony> type sudo iwconfig and see what it says
[06:33] <h0sl3r> delltony: no
[06:33] <hellekin> h0sl3r do you have the wireless-tools installed?
[06:33] <h0sl3r> delltony: I used the gnome thing
[06:34] <brenner> dv_: someone might know of a better way though
[06:34] <brenner> dv_: i.e. one that will get dependencies ffor you
[06:34] <dv_> heh
[06:34] <dv_> k
[06:34] <h0sl3r> delltony: what am I looking for?
[06:34] <delltony> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <nameofrouterhere> key <yourkeygoeshere>
[06:34] <hellekin> dv_ can you restate your question?
[06:35] <delltony> paste me what the output is in a pm
[06:35] <dv_> hellekin, I want to install some big stuff, but I cant download hundreds of MB here (traffic limit)
[06:35] <h0sl3r> hellekin: no
[06:35] <delltony> do yyou use xchat?
[06:35] <h0sl3r> ok
[06:35] <flodine1> can some tell me how to get a password i forgot in irssi
[06:35] <dv_> so I want to download it in the university and install it locally then
[06:35] <iamtehking> there we go
[06:35] <dv_> that is, all needed .deb's
[06:35] <delltony> if so pm me and type /exec -o sudo iwconfig and it will show me what you see on your screen so i can help
[06:35] <dv_> but, I have to find out which files are needed
[06:35] <ITS_FOR_REAL> If im making a script how can i put the sudo password in the same line so i dont get asked about it all the time?
[06:36] <iamtehking> hey does anybody know how to fix the error that whenever i try to send a file to another computer with gaim, nothing happens?  the Send File action just doesnt work
[06:36] <iamtehking> in gaim the Send File action doesnt wrok
[06:36] <iamtehking> whats the deal?
[06:36] <hellekin> dv_ dpkg -l package
[06:36] <zerboxx_> delltony: Thanks! Works like a charm.  But when I connect directly to the internet (outside router) will it work alright?
[06:36] <dv_> hellekin, its not installed yet
[06:36] <hellekin> oh sorry
[06:36] <ITS_FOR_REAL> iamtehking,  what version?
[06:36] <h0sl3r>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 00:13:46:0B:81:D0
[06:36] <h0sl3r>           Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity:1/3
[06:36] <h0sl3r>           Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[06:36] <h0sl3r>           Encryption key:off
[06:36] <HappyFool>  dv_: maybe something like apt-zip will help
[06:36] <h0sl3r>           Power Management:off
[06:36] <h0sl3r>           Link Quality=57/92  Signal level=-49 dBm  Noise level=-106 dBm
[06:36] <filip_> someone is running Qemu here?
[06:36] <h0sl3r>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[06:36] <delltony> not in here man
[06:36] <h0sl3r>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[06:36] <delltony> in a pm
[06:36] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Hoho
[06:36] <Seveas> FOOL
[06:36] <hellekin> dv_ man apt-cache I guess you can find things there
[06:37] <Seveas> read the goddamn topic
[06:37] <timtux> Hum, this channel has just to many pepole
[06:37] <iamtehking> ITS_FOR_REAL, um the latest ubuntu version
[06:37] <Seveas> and get some common sense
[06:37] <iamtehking> ITS_FOR_REAL, 1.1.4
[06:37] <dv_> ok
           Encryption key:off
[06:37] <delltony> zerboxx, thats why you make two sections
[06:37] <Seveas> (yes, I am touch today)
[06:37] <dv_> and when I get the .deb packages
[06:37] <ITS_FOR_REAL> iamtehking, ok i also got that one and no problem here.... sorry dont know then
[06:37] <dv_> I can simply copy then over to /var/cache/apt/archives?
[06:37] <hellekin> delltony you need to pass it to iwconfig
[06:37] <hellekin> sorry h0sl3r (what am i doing?)
[06:37] <dv_> or do I have to register something somewhere?
[06:38] <brenner> dv_: the way i did it when i had to resort to that was put them all in a dir and then dpkg -i *
[06:38] <delltony> hellekin, see you have key:off
[06:38] <dv_> brenner, heh
[06:38] <delltony> or h0sl3r or whoever i was helping haha
[06:38] <timtux> Hum, tried to update from hoary to breezy today, evrything fuckt up :D
[06:38] <dv_> nioce solution :)
[06:38] <timtux> shit happens
[06:39] <ITS_FOR_REAL> How do i get firestarter to run in usermode or something... in every reboot its asking for password to start..!?
[06:39] <hellekin> dv_ apt-cache search depends packagename
[06:39] <persia> dv_: apt-zip is designed for doing just the sort of offline file management you seek.
[06:39] <hellekin> dv_ will list you the packages you need
[06:39] <dv_> kool.
[06:39] <brenner> ooh, will have to look at apt-zip meself then :)
[06:39] <hellekin> delltony confusing isn't it? ;o)
[06:39] <dv_> thanks
[06:39] <delltony> haha
[06:39] <delltony> yeah a little
[06:40] <Xorlev> ITS_FOR_REAL: Your firestarter should start up at boottime, and then the client will ask for a password to access it.
[06:40] <hellekin> now, my question =8)
[06:40] <delltony> zerboxx, you can type dhcp instead of static
[06:40] <brenner> dv_: i knew someone would know of a better way :)
[06:40] <delltony> and leave he other info there and i should work
[06:40] <delltony> works fine on mine
[06:40] <delltony> but you wll have to maybe type sudo dhclient to probe the router for an ip
[06:40] <delltony> or the network i mean
[06:41] <hellekin> I added some repositories in /etc/apt/sources.lists, including hoary and hoary-security. Of course, I want hoary-security packages to take over hoary packages.
[06:41] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Xorlev, yes seems right but how do i get it to not ask for password every boot?
[06:41] <delltony> like if your not on the router do dhcp instead of static and it will probe like comcast and ge your ip for you
[06:41] <hellekin> However, I couldn't find the preferences entries to allow hoary-security to take over and I have to select all dependencies manually
[06:41] <Xorlev> ITS_FOR_REAL: It shouldn't be asking for a password during boot time, unless the startup is somehow being run as non-superuser.
[06:41] <persia> hellekin: hoary-security packages have a newer version than hoary packages.  `sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude upgrade` will install all the hoary-security updates.
[06:42] <hellekin> persia ah... no preferences then
[06:42] <hellekin> persia: is hoary similar to debian testing at the moment?
[06:42] <persia> hellekin: No, it' supposed to be easy :)
[06:42] <Coyctecm> anybody?How to disable synaptics touchpad?
[06:42] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Xorlev, i dont know i just made an default installation on ubuntu and firestarter via synaptec
[06:42] <hellekin> Coyctecm try a hammer =8)
[06:43] <Coyctecm> yes it would bee great :D
[06:43] <brenner> Coyctecm: touchpad?
[06:43] <Coyctecm> yes...laptopmouse
[06:43] <persia> hellekin: Umm... not really.  Hoary was released before sarge, so the packages are older, and nothing has come in from sid since May.  On the other hand, Hoary has a newer version of GNOME than sarge: I doun't know about etch-to-be.
[06:44] <dwerf> why do some directories not open, like cd /home/myname ?
[06:44] <brenner> er, how is that a synaptics issue?
[06:44] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Xorlev, how do i change my only installed user to superuser then?
[06:44] <brenner> dwerf: what's the error?
[06:44] <Xorlev> ITS_FOR_REAL: I'm not sure, I did a default install as well.
[06:44] <Coyctecm> my laptop touchpad uses drivers called synaptics
[06:44] <timtux> My 2
[06:44] <timtux> :-)
[06:45] <dwerf> brenner > command not found
[06:45] <dwerf> brenner > this seems nonsense
[06:45] <brenner> ah, ok ... thought you meant synaptic the package manager
[06:45] <Coyctecm> =)
[06:45] <brenner> Coyctecm: search the forum, i'm sure someone's asked that b4
[06:45] <dwerf> brenner > hahaha, just discovering linux, and loving it all the way
[06:45] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Xorlev, and u using firestarter and does not gotten a password dialog from firestarter in any time?
[06:45] <brenner> dwerf: as in cd: command not found?
[06:45] <delltony> dwerf, your home dir is not opening?
[06:46] <dwerf> delltony > exactly
[06:46] <Xorlev> When I open the firestarter client it asks for my password, but not on system boot to run the daemon.
[06:46] <ITS_FOR_REAL> Xorlev, yes same here... but how do i get it to not ask for password? or maybe thats just the deal for security reasons?
[06:47] <hellekin> persia: now I put preferences and apt.conf aside, an update wants to upgrade pacakges with the same version...
[06:47] <delltony> see what the chmod is set to on it
[06:47] <dwerf> brenner, delltony > my username is displayed in the /home folder, but it just won't open from te shell
[06:47] <brenner> dwerf: what's the exact error?
[06:47] <delltony> sudo chmod 770 ~
[06:48] <hellekin> dwerf, can you copy-paste ls -l /home
[06:48] <persia> hellekin: Did you have a number of repositories enabled, or compile some packages locally?  The only time that happens for me is when I've built something locally, and it's unverified.
[06:48] <Xorlev> ITS_FOR_REAL: Its running under root, using kdesu. You want the client (which can stay closed at all times) to be run as root.
[06:48] <dwerf> brenner, delltony > bash: cd: No such file or directory
[06:48] <dwerf> brenner, delltony > bash: cd: /username: No such file or directory, actually
[06:48] <delltony> sudo chmod 770 /home/<whoeveryouare>
[06:48] <brenner> dwerf: that means the thing that comes after cd doesn't exist
[06:48] <Xorlev> ITS_FOR_REAL: Running as root and asking for the password to run is alot more secure.
[06:48] <brenner> dwerf: i.e. /username :)
[06:48] <hellekin> persia i didn't build locally except skype, but in the list, i have libc6 and friends =8\
[06:49] <dwerf> brenner > i know, but i can see it!!!
[06:49] <ompaul> dwerf, if I understand you correctly you are running a command line program, you have done (for example) 'cd /home/dwerf' and you are seeing something on the screen that makes you think it is broken - please put the output of 'cd /home/username' into  pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl and then tell us the URL
[06:49] <brenner> dwerf: home directory is /heom/<username> or tou can use ~ as shorthand ... they're equivalent
[06:49] <brenner> dwerf: you can see /username ?
[06:49] <delltony> ompaul, i don't think he has permission to vew the dir
[06:49] <delltony> as his chmod is borked
[06:49] <persia> hellekin: If you're sure the packages weren't modified locally, and you're only using ubuntu repositories, it shouldn't hurt anything to upgrade to the current version, even for libc*.  Emphasis is on shouldn't.
[06:49] <dwerf> ompaul > that i don't understand
[06:50] <ompaul> dwerf, what program are you using for this action?
[06:50] <poningru> anyone know why the udu stuff is gone?
[06:50] <hellekin> persia: that's not an update AFAIK, as both versions are identical. Maybe some cache weirdness?
[06:50] <poningru> or rather why I cant find it?
[06:50] <persia> poningru: It's been merged in the general wiki.
[06:50] <poningru> oh
[06:50] <persia> hellekin: Exactly.
[06:50] <dwerf> brenner > if i type [cd /home]  and then [ls] , a folder is there
[06:50] <poningru> k thanks
[06:50] <delltony> i'm curious on something and this would explain my permission theory
[06:50] <delltony> sudo su
[06:50] <delltony> type in your password
[06:50] <delltony> then ls /home/<whatever>
[06:50] <brenner> ompaul: his output is bash: cd: /username: No such file or directory
[06:51] <brenner> dwerf: yes but you're using an absolute path
[06:51] <hellekin> persia OK, it's debian-based, it should work ;o)
[06:51] <brenner> dwerf: i.e. /username
[06:51] <brenner> dwerf: to cd into a subdirectory, you just use cd username
[06:51] <persia> hellekin: Yes, *should*
[06:51] <dwerf> delltony > that worked!
[06:51] <delltony> if it list it then then there is a permission issue
[06:52] <mveers> hi
[06:52] <delltony> the su did?
[06:52] <brenner> delltony: but he used an absolute path that time.
[06:52] <dwerf> delltony > yes
[06:52] <ompaul> delltony, so now perhaps pastebin would be useful with ls -al
[06:52] <dwerf> what means sudo su?
[06:52] <delltony> aww good point brenner
[06:52] <delltony> means your root
[06:52] <ompaul> delltony, from within home
[06:52] <dwerf> i know sudo is temp root
[06:52] <delltony> so be careful
[06:52] <brenner> dwerf: try this: cd /home/username
[06:52] <dwerf> brenner > it's working now
[06:52] <hellekin> persia: oh, actually, *subversions* differ, aka: security updates
[06:53] <delltony> brenner, remember he is root
[06:53] <delltony> i thnk its his permission on the dir
[06:53] <delltony> type ls -la
[06:53] <dwerf> brenner, delltony > thanx guys!
[06:53] <delltony> and look to see if its root
[06:53] <hellekin> dwerf: did you change your shell?
[06:53] <brenner> delltony: really? i reckon it's not a permissions issue...he's using an absolute path when you shouldn't be
[06:53] <dwerf> hellekin > what do you mean?
[06:53] <dopry> does anyone know of any plans to add gpac to the ubuntu distribution?
[06:54] <delltony> if its root thats your problem
[06:54] <delltony> it should be dwerf:dwerf or whatever
[06:54] <dwerf> delltony > yes
[06:54] <hellekin> dwerf, i hardly followed the conversation but it reminded me when a friend changed his shell from bash to zsh *before* he installed zsh (how silly that can be)
[06:54] <persia> hellekin: Good.  I was wondering.  All will be good.
[06:54] <delltony> yes as in what dwerf ?
[06:54] <delltony> be specific
[06:54] <dwerf> delltony > yes, it is dwerf
[06:55] <delltony> then its brenner's solution then
[06:55] <hellekin> wrong shell and you're out of home
[06:55] <delltony> that rules mine out
[06:55] <dwerf> delltony > what do you mean with dwerf:dwerf?
[06:55] <brenner> so he just got mixed up with CL syntax?
[06:55] <delltony> type sudo dwerf
[06:55] <delltony> so your back to normal user
[06:55] <delltony> means user dwerf
[06:55] <dwerf> ok
[06:55] <delltony> group dwerf
[06:55] <delltony> like i can add users to my computer for webadmin
[06:56] <brenner> dopry: security updates only for hoary.  i think you can request for it to be included for breezy iirc.  not sure though
[06:56] <delltony> that would be the group
[06:56] <delltony> like hommie:webadmin  jimmy:webadmin
[06:56] <delltony> then you set the rules for the group and so on
[06:56] <dopry> brenner: thanks... I'm doing a bunch of mpeg4 development and I'd like to see a good mpeg4 client in ubuntu... I'm trying to escape the confines of flash / quicktime ;)
[06:57] <dopry> brenner: do you knwo where I would put a request or suggestion?
[06:57] <delltony> brenner, thanks for helping me help him :)
[06:57] <brenner> delltony: so what was the problem?
[06:58] <delltony> well i'm going with absolute path cause i ruled out the permissiion issue
[06:58] <persia> dopry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseNewPackages
[06:58] <dopry> thanks..
[06:58] <delltony> cause he stated the ls -la said dwerf:dwerf
[06:58] <delltony> so his user and his group has permission to access that dir
[06:58] <brenner> delltony: ah ok.
[06:58] <brenner> dwerf: so you get what the problem was?
[06:59] <brenner> dwerf: you tried to cd into /username, which doesn't exist. /home/username does however.  to cd into a subdir, you just use 'cd username' in the parent dir
[06:59] <dwerf> brenner > not quite, but i've just been using linux for about a week
[06:59] <walde> Hello, is there something similiary to taskel from Debian?
[06:59] <Balduran> Hello
[07:00] <dopry> dwer: or for simplicity you can use cd ~username
[07:00] <delltony> hey a little off topic but i thought this was just something you hear on the news. i had to beat this guys butt yesterday for taking a picture up my girlfriends skirt with a camphone. and actually had him arrested.
[07:00] <Balduran> few minutes ago ive installed some stuff for my gnome-desktop (themes, backgrounds...) then the pc crashed and x wont start anymore... usa
[07:00] <brenner> dwerf: tldp.org might help for learning the basics
[07:00] <Bizmark> does anyone know if there is a version of java that will work on ubuntu?
[07:00] <dwerf> brenner > but if i first type cd /home, wouldn't cd /dwerf take me further?
[07:00] <Balduran> usually it starty automaticly but now i have to login and write startx
[07:00] <delltony> no
[07:00] <dwerf> brenner > i'll check that right now
[07:00] <f_newton> lol dell500 `
[07:00] <Balduran> but the only thing i get is an black screen
[07:00] <delltony> cause your iniside the dir
[07:00] <brenner> dwerf: no, becuase you're using abs path by putting the slash there
[07:01] <f_newton> uh I mean delltony...
[07:01] <dwerf> brenner > cool! i get it...
[07:01] <persia> dopry: My apologies: I misdirected you, rather it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[07:01] <dopry> dwerf: / is an absolute path... cd /home/username; works, cd /home; cd username works
[07:01] <f_newton> Bizmark yes
[07:01] <dwerf> brenner > linux is a very high quality system ... so consistent
[07:02] <dopry> dwerf: the / tells it to start at the root directory if you leave off the leading slash its is relative to the current directory
[07:02] <delltony> if i see her on mobileasses i'm gonna be really pissed off
[07:02] <brenner> delltony: *very* off-topic.  interesting nonetheless :)
[07:02] <delltony> ok ill stop sorry
[07:02] <Bizmark> thanx f_newton... so the one on the ubuntu website works great right?
[07:02] <GregAsche> can someone help me get esd working? i'm so lost
[07:02] <f_newton> delltony dont waste your anger on things you can do nothing about.... as a matter of fact try to keep anger from invading your sanity
[07:02] <f_newton> backports Bizmark
[07:03] <brenner> dwerf: i'm sure windows and other OSes do this too(?)
[07:03] <delltony> yeah true i guess i should take it as a compliment
[07:03] <f_newton> !java
[07:03] <ubotu> hmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[07:03] <delltony> cause if she was ugly he wouldn't have done it
[07:03] <brenner> heh...was this in a club or something?
[07:03] <persia> GregAsche: What are you trying to do with esd?
[07:03] <GregAsche> persia: get it running
[07:03] <delltony> oh anyone know of a sourceforge project or whatever for java games that i can use moto4lin to put on my phone?
[07:03] <f_newton> delltony...he was probabl just seeing if it would work  using his cellphone like that
[07:04] <GregAsche> whenever I run esd I get the error "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:868:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[07:04] <persia> GregAsche: Locally, or over the network?
[07:04] <GregAsche> locally
[07:04] <Tadej`Certanc> hi
[07:04] <dwerf> brenner > i was addressing linux more broadly than just this issue
[07:04] <persia> GregAsche: Do you have ALSA sound working?
[07:04] <Tadej`Certanc> Where do I have to put scripts that need te be run at startup?
[07:05] <GregAsche> persia: I think so, but when I search for it in processes, it's not there
[07:05] <persia> GregAsche: ALSA doesn't show in a process, but you'd hear sound when you tried to do something noisy.
[07:05] <ompaul> walde, did you mean tasksel ?
[07:05] <GregAsche> persia: I can't get any sound
[07:06] <GregAsche> i had sound working before, and then I tried to start esd, and now I have no sound at all
[07:07] <persia> GregAsche: OK.  For sound problems, you probably want to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DebuggingSoundProblems/.  For the dmix error, I recommend stopping all other sound processes before starting esd.
[07:07] <CypherNix> Hi everyone, I managed to do a stupid thing, edited /etc/sudoers with gedit and now I'm getting a parse error which I can't fix. Tried recovery mode but that didn't do. If anyone is able to help me out please keep in mind I'm very much a beginner in the world of *nix.
[07:08] <persia> GregAsche: Oops: I take too long to type.
[07:08] <GregAsche> hm?
[07:08] <JDahl> Tadej`Certanc, I thought there was a /etc/init.d/local script for exactly that, but I cant seem to find it now... anyone else knows abot that?
[07:08] <Jason_L> is anyone else having a problem searching ubuntuforums.org? I keep getting a database error
[07:09] <CypherNix> Jason_L, am getting it as well.
[07:09] <brenner> CypherNix: so you can't login and get to a terminal in any way?
[07:09] <CypherNix> brenner, well I'm logged in to Ubuntu now but I can't edit that file to remove the bad entry, since sudo doesn't work.
[07:09] <ekimus> JDahl: there isn't one in hoary just create it...
[07:09] <brenner> ah, good point :)
[07:10] <CypherNix> Tried logging in to Root Terminal but that failed as well, for obvious reasons (I think).
[07:10] <HappyFool> Tadej`Certanc, JDahl: maybe /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[07:11] <Jason_L> My Ubuntu system keeps locking up after logging in - gnome loads and the desktop appears, but just as the taskbars are coming up it freezes - I thought I ran into this before and had to edit something in the grub.conf but I can't figure out what it was - any suggestions? I am using the k7 kernel
[07:11] <persia> GregAsche: I've looked a but for your error, and don't have an easy solution.  My apologies.  It looks like dmix gives this error when the sound device listed as the slave (default output pcm) is already in use.  lsof | grep pcm may provide a guide as to which process is using it.
[07:11] <CypherNix> It was later that I found out that I should be using visudo for that, not gedit but now it's to late.
[07:11] <funkyHat> CypherNix, use a ubuntu liveCD if you have one, if not any linux bootable system will do
[07:11] <funkyHat> you can use that to edit the file
[07:12] <CypherNix> Hmm.
[07:12] <GregAsche> persia: lsof | grep pcm returns nothing
[07:12] <GregAsche> i'm going to reboot now, i think i might get it working
[07:12] <CypherNix> funkyHat,  So I would just pop that in and edit if using the LiveCD no other way?
[07:12] <Tadej`Certanc> HappyFool: Ill try it
[07:12] <Tadej`Certanc> thanks
[07:13] <funkyHat> CypherNix, for future reference, if you want to add someone to sudoers, you just need to add them to the 'admin' group (or tick the relevant box in the user manager)
[07:13] <GlenC> which lightweight wm should I get and how do I install it?
[07:13] <CypherNix> funkyHat, I was already added I wanted a command to execute.
[07:13] <funkyHat> oh right
[07:14] <ompaul> GlenC, fluxbox has a good name, with people I know and trust
[07:14] <CypherNix> Firestarter GUI to be more precise.
[07:14] <funkyHat> hmm
[07:14] <brenner> GlenC: i like xfce, you can install it through apt-get install xfce4
[07:14] <ompaul> GlenC, I have used it and found it useful, however I use Gnome myself
[07:14] <GlenC> well this computer is old
[07:15] <ompaul> GlenC, then fluxbox or xfce4 are useful
[07:15] <funkyHat> firestarter shouldn't have to be run as root to see the GUI. it's annoying that it does
[07:15] <GlenC> uses a pII
[07:15] <bpuccio> any jabber users here?
[07:15] <GlenC> I'll try xfce4
[07:15] <ce33na> I need to add a user to the admin group. I don't recall ever having to do this. Any one have a suggestion?
[07:15] <GlenC> bpuccio, don't come to irc looking for people to im
[07:15] <funkyHat> ce33na, use the user manger graphical UI
[07:16] <persia> ce33na: `sudo vi /etc/group`, and append the username to the desired group.
[07:16] <CypherNix> funkyHat, exactly...I wouldn't be in this mess if that wasn't the case. Well that and the fact I made a huge error.
[07:16] <Coyctecm> hmm....I did not manage to disable touchpad..is there anyway to get the button in keyboard to work? It's button for disabling touchpad
[07:16] <brenner> ompaul: OOI, does fluxbox set itself up nicely like xfce? (i.e. adds itself to the sessions menu, gives you a workable desktop on first run?)
[07:16] <ce33na> persia: thats what I was looking for...thanks
[07:16] <persia> ce33na: use funkyHat's solution - it's easier.
[07:16] <funkyHat> or do that ;)
[07:16] <bpuccio> GlenC: sorry, wasn't looking for a buddy to talk with, just wanted to see if my ubuntu jabber server was properly setup to talk to other people on other jabber servers
[07:16] <funkyHat> ce33na, system > administration > users and groups
[07:16] <bpuccio> GlenC: I figured with a few hundred people in here, someone might be willing to spend 3 seconds to let me double check
[07:16] <ce33na> persia: Im an old user. I prefer the hard way. I felt stupid having to ask something so simple.
[07:17] <bpuccio> GlenC: sorry if you think I'm attempting to do otherwise
[07:17] <ce33na> thanks guys
[07:17] <ompaul> brenner, been a while I think it is useful from the off let me check
[07:18] <CypherNix> funkyHat, I started downloading the LiveCD do I need any more pointers as to how to fix this, or will I be able to do it on my own?
[07:18] <GregAsche> persia: back, I didn't get it working though
[07:19] <funkyHat> CypherNix, as far as i'm aware, you should just be able to mount the drive (it may have an automount set by the liveCD, which makes it even easier), and edit the file
[07:19] <ce33na> persia: vi works like a charm
[07:20] <GlenC> ok, I apt-getted xfce4, now how do I use it?
[07:20] <funkyHat> CypherNix, you can always come on here from the liveCD if you have any trouble :)
[07:20] <persia> GregAsche: No, the reboot wouldn't work.  There's a thread in the ubuntu forums that suggests changing a couple settings in the config file, but it didn't work for the person reporting the problem there.  As you've maybe not started esd yet this boot, is your sound working again?
[07:20] <brenner> GlenC: select it from the sessions menu at login
[07:20] <GregAsche> persia: no
[07:20] <CypherNix> funkyHat, sounds easy enough, almost to easy. I mean anyone can use that to add themselfs as admin, well with physical access.
[07:20] <GregAsche> can I pm you?
[07:21] <CypherNix> funkyHat, I have a feeling I will be back ;)
[07:21] <Gnonthgol> I am having problems with python when using hoary and debian packages
[07:21] <JDahl> anyone knows why matplotlib is not listed in Breezy? Are there specific problems with it (or the packages Tritium made), or do maintainers need a helping hand with it? IMO, it's the best 2D plotting library for python (and relatively complicated to compile from source because of the many dependencies)
[07:21] <funkyHat> CypherNix, unless you change your boot sequence and set a bios password ;)
[07:21] <QMario> Is ompaul still here?
[07:21] <dwerf> what is multiverse?
[07:22] <nickrud> !tell dwerf about components
[07:22] <CypherNix> funkyHat, Of course ;) Well 45 mins and the download should be complete. I'll see your around then. Thank you very much.
[07:22] <funkyHat> np :)
[07:22] <QMario> Ompaul and everyone else, do you know where I can get a cheap Intel Pentium III Processor?
[07:23] <brenner> QMario: *cough* you do know people live in different places from you, right? :)
[07:23] <Gnonthgol> QMario: ebay?
[07:23] <GlenC> how do I get rid of the password and username for samba?
[07:23] <QMario> Brenner, do you have a "cold"? ;)
[07:24] <QMario> Brenner, sorry. I meant on the Internet.
[07:24] <QMario> !Botsnack
[07:24] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[07:24] <QMario> Ubotu, tell Seveas about Botsnack.
[07:24] <brenner> QMario: thought you might like some phlegm
[07:25] <ompaul> brenner, after some messing around I conclude that it is not great off the blocks but you can do some nice things to it  (flux)
[07:25] <QMario> Brenner, ewww.
[07:25] <brenner> ompaul: in otherwords, needs config? :)
[07:25] <QMario> Ompaul, did you see my question?
[07:25] <dwerf> nickrud > i have all the repositories ticked in synaptic - i just get the message "E: couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:26] <brenner> QMario: why does ompaul get special treatment? :(
[07:26] <brenner> dwerf: did you reload?
[07:26] <ompaul> brenner, that is a nice way of saying it
[07:26] <dwerf> brenner reload what? the tree?
[07:27] <KingsRobot> Hey all, got a bit of a problem - new ubuntu hoary install - everything looks good, except one of my drives from my previous installation is coming of as SFS instead of ext3 - I didn't change the partition tabl, but that sure looks like what happened. Any ideas?
[07:27] <dwerf> brenner > i did
[07:27] <funkyHat> with the reload button in the synaptic window
[07:27] <dwerf> funkyhat > i might have not
[07:27] <QMario> Brenner, he doesn't. You and him are equal. :)
[07:27] <Gnonthgol> I am having problem with python when using a debian mirror instead of an ubuntu mirror
[07:27] <QMario> Brenner, I know you saw my question. I just don't know if he saw it. ;)
[07:28] <dwerf> brenner > i did reload
[07:28] <funkyHat> Gnonthgol, use an ubuntu mirror then ;)
[07:28] <Gnonthgol> funkyHat: but ubuntu is a bit outdated
[07:28] <ompaul> QMario, vis a pIII no idea, and personally if I was you I would use google or ebay for something like that
[07:29] <brenner> dwerf: in that case, i'd double-check if you have multiverse enabled, 'cos that's where you'll find that package
[07:29] <Russ1> Hello! Could anyone help me configure my sound board?
[07:29] <funkyHat> Gnonthgol, you could try compiling, that is probably more likely to work than a package designed for a different distro :)
[07:29] <dwerf> ok
[07:29] <funkyHat> allbeit the distro ubuntu is based on ;)
[07:29] <Drewfus> how can i get video codecs like mpeg
[07:30] <ompaul> KingsRobot, was there something important on it?
[07:30] <QMario> Ompaul, I thought it was a bad idea to buy used processors.
[07:30] <JDahl> Gnonthgol, can't you use backports if you must have something newer than hoary?
[07:30] <QMario> Ompaul, what about this: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=PIII800FC&cm_ven=Froogle&cm_cat=Shopping&cm_ite=total .
[07:30] <QMario> It is used, but too good to be true.
[07:30] <dwerf> brenner > this irc-channel makes me too lazy, i'm noticing - i'm going to read now - thank you so much, brenner!
[07:31] <Russ1> Hello! Could anyone help me configure my sound board? I have a SoundBlaster AWE64!
[07:31] <KingsRobot> ompaul - well, yes - but I have a relatively recent backup.
[07:31] <Gnonthgol> Ubuntu takes the Debian packages and rewrits it a bit and it comed out months behind.
[07:31] <Almindor> hello, I've just updated to BREEZY and my X broke with "cannot initialize core devices: keyboard"
[07:31] <egglet> hi guys, i have a question about CGI with apache2 on ubuntu - i've installed libapache2-mod-perl2 but i can't seem to get scripts to exectute on the server. putting AddHandler in apache2.conf just results in a 403 error
[07:31] <brenner> dwerf: yeah! stop making us do your work. :)
[07:31] <KingsRobot> ompaul - really, I'm more interested finding out how this happened.
[07:31] <Almindor> anyone got anything like this before
[07:31] <Almindor> I'm really lost..
[07:32] <funkyHat> Almindor, read the channel topic
[07:32] <KingsRobot> Is there a way to find the modification date of a partition table?
[07:32] <funkyHat> oh... it's gone :$
[07:32] <brenner> funkyHat: breezy disclaimer's gone :)
[07:32] <Almindor> funkyHat: what with it?
[07:32] <brenner> Almindor: try a reconfigure of the xorg package
[07:32] <Almindor> ok
[07:32] <QMario> Ompaul, are you here?
[07:33] <funkyHat> Almindor, it _used_ to say breezy doesn't work, don't upgrade `_`
[07:33] <QMario>  Ompaul?
[07:33] <ompaul> QMario, what about it, it is not a #ubuntu question, and really you should address your questions to the channel and if someone helps you so be it, if they don't so be it asking someone who helped you before is a and demanding of them a solution for your wants is not fair on them as they may not have an answer for you and a good way to have someone tell you you are about to be put on /ignore
[07:33] <QMario> Sorry, ompaul. :'(
[07:33] <redguy> ah? it's ok to use breezy now?
[07:33] <Almindor> funkyHat: damn, and I just read on a page it worked ok ;(
[07:33] <brenner> redguy: at your own risk
[07:34] <QMario> Almindor, language... :(
[07:34] <funkyHat> Almindor, maybe it does :), try what brenner suggested ^^
[07:34] <Almindor> brenner: can you give me a hint on the package name?
[07:34] <Almindor> QMario: damn? are you a a catholic?
[07:34] <Almindor> brenner: x11, xorg, X11, Xorg I can't find it :)
[07:34] <brenner> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:34] <QMario> Almindor, no.
[07:34] <Almindor> xserver-xorg oh cool :)
[07:35] <[t0rc] > Is there an ubuntu repository that I can download packages for Ubuntu through my browser? (similar to like, Fedora Extras or something)?
[07:35] <JBLoudG20> can anyone help me with lm_sensors? I installed it using synaptec, and I didnt see any errors, but I also cannot find where it was installed, nevermind actually try to run the program
[07:35] <funkyHat> [t0rc] , there is a hoary-extras, that you can add to your sources.list
[07:35] <brenner> JBLoudG20: try typing 'lm_sensors' in a terminal
[07:35] <JBLoudG20> ok ill give that a try
[07:35] <QMario>  /me sings "I'm Sorry" to ompaul. 
[07:35] <brenner> note: never used it before
[07:36] <brenner> JBLoudG20: dpkg -L <package> to see what files a package installed
[07:36] <QMario>  /me  sings "I'm Sorry" to ompaul. 
[07:36] <[t0rc] > funkyHat: URL?
[07:36] <JBLoudG20> lm_snesors, command not found
[07:36] <Russ1> Hello! Could anyone help me configure my sound board? I have a SoundBlaster AWE64!
[07:36] <funkyHat> !extras
[07:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:36] <funkyHat> [t0rc] , ^ see what ubotu said
[07:36] <onkarshinde> I am unable to find libdvdcss2 on web. Can anyone help me?
[07:37] <JBLoudG20> brenner, do you knwo the name of the lm_sensors package, so I can install it from a terminal
[07:37] <QMario> Ubotu, tell onkarshinde about DVD.
[07:37] <brenner> JBLoudG20: you typed it wrong btw
[07:38] <QMario> Ubotu, tell onkarshinde about hoary-extras.
[07:38] <JBLoudG20> oh i saw the typo, no its right in my terminal
[07:38] <xulMunkee> does anyone know what's required to have the computer automatically mount cdroms and usb drives?
[07:38] <QMario> !libdvdcss
[07:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, QMario
[07:38] <xulMunkee> what packages, i mean
[07:38] <brenner> JBLoudG20: lm-sensors
[07:38] <crimsun_> xulMunkee: works out of the box in Warty, Hoary, and Breezy Colon 3
[07:38] <michele> hello
[07:38] <fdr> hi... can anybody suggest me a good GUI front-end for gpg supported by ubuntu? thank you!
[07:38] <QMario> Hello, xulMunkee.
[07:38] <brenner> JBLoudG20: apt-cache search <keywords> to find stuff
[07:38] <funkyHat> xulMunkee, they should be included in the base set of packages
[07:38] <crimsun_> Colony^
[07:39] <michele> is it just me or network-manager is not installable in brezy?
[07:39] <xulMunkee> oh okay
[07:39] <JBLoudG20> brenner, thanks a lot
[07:39] <brenner> JBLoudG20: then apt-cache show <package> to show details
[07:39] <funkyHat> xulMunkee, you can try changing your settings in System > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media (if you're having problems)
[07:39] <brenner> JBLoudG20: or use synaptic... :)
[07:39] <[t0rc] > mm thnx funkyHat and ubotu
[07:40] <JBLoudG20> thaks a lot
[07:40] <xulMunkee> funkyHat, no problems.. i'm just wondering what daemon actually handles the mounting
[07:40] <crimsun_> xulMunkee: gnome-volume-manager, hotplug, udev
[07:40] <xulMunkee> crimsun_, thanks
[07:40] <hablandocontigo> I heard of an ubuntu light being worked in progress for older machines. Can someone give me some information on this?
[07:40] <redguy> dbus and hal are also needed I think
[07:40] <redguy> xulMunkee: ^^
[07:40] <mcphail> fdr: i think seahorse is there
[07:41] <crimsun_> hablandocontigo: search for ubuntu lite
[07:41] <redguy> hablandocontigo: yes, google
[07:41] <hablandocontigo> crimsun_, ah, thanks, I was trying "light" before
[07:41] <fdr> mcphail: thanks, I will give it a try
[07:42] <crimsun_> redguy: gnome-volume-manager depends on hal and udev
[07:43] <joefso3> How do I configure my ubuntu to use dhcp, and when it does it has to request a certain adress x.x.x.x
[07:43] <xulMunkee> crimsun_, gnome-volume-manager did the trick. thx :)
[07:44] <joefso3> 5
[07:46] <redguy> joefso3: is requesting certain IPs supported by the dhcp? I know that the dhcp *server* can assign certain IPs  to certain MACs
[07:47] <joefso3> redguy: requesting is possible afaik.
[07:47] <joefso3> redguy: it's just a simple broadband router.
[07:49] <hablandocontigo> I don't understand why Gnome/KDE take all my ram up according to top. How is this possible if Windows interface takes less than half as much?
[07:49] <crimsun> joefso3: man dhclient.conf
[07:49] <hablandocontigo> I have 256M ram
[07:50] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, are you using a laptop?
[07:50] <crimsun> hablandocontigo: free -m | grep ^- | awk '{ print $4 }'
[07:50] <hablandocontigo> QMario, I'm using a Dell OptiPlex GX 200 workstationesque PC
[07:51] <QMario> It says my CPU usage is 100%, and yet I am not using many programs.
[07:51] <hablandocontigo> crimsun, 127 was returned
[07:51] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, get more RAM.
[07:51] <crimsun> hablandocontigo: so you have 127 MB of usable free memory
[07:51] <davieP> Like, i get the "starting hotplug subsystem" freeze every time i boot with my USB mouse pluged in
[07:51] <davieP> make it stop?
[07:51] <QMario> What kind of RAM do you have?
[07:51] <hablandocontigo> crimsun, okay, great
[07:51] <QMario> Hello drewfus.
[07:52] <drewfus> im having a problem with synaptic
[07:52] <hablandocontigo> QMario, I'm not sure, they're both 128 sticks
[07:52] <hablandocontigo> QMario, I wrote down information before, let me find it
[07:52] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, how old is the computer?
[07:52] <drewfus> thats the first time anyone has said hello when i cam in, qmario, hi
[07:52] <brenner> crimsun: so 'top' is not a reliable method of working it out?
[07:52] <davieP> how do i check how much free space i have on my HD?
[07:52] <drewfus> can anyone help me with synaptic real quick
[07:52] <hablandocontigo> QMario, more than 5 years, but that's not the problem; I have tested it on Windows, also
[07:52] <redguy> davieP: df
[07:52] <brenner> davieP: df -h
[07:52] <hablandocontigo> QMario, top is deceiving
[07:53] <drewfus> whenever i run it i get this Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[07:53] <drewfus>  Child terminated with 1 status
[07:53] <hablandocontigo> QMario, I have nearly as much free ram as I do on windows
[07:53] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, it probably is SDRAM.
[07:53] <davieP> ty
[07:53] <QMario> Are you using Windows XP or 2000?
[07:53] <drewfus> anyone?
[07:53] <hablandocontigo> QMario, they have different teeth from the sdram I have in my other computer
[07:53] <mebaran151> anyone here know anything about xul
[07:53] <mebaran151> or any resources to make gui with it
[07:53] <crimsun> brenner: look at the correct field in free -m
[07:54] <brenner> drewfus: just ask :)
[07:54] <zeus1_> WOOT GUYS remember me from yessterday
[07:54] <drewfus> i did ill ask again i guess
[07:54] <QMario> Hblandocontigo, most likely it might be a PC133 or maybe as old as PC100.
[07:54] <davieP> is the only way to fix the "starting hotplug subsystem" quasi-freeze to boot with my USB mouse ubplugged?!
[07:54] <zeus1_> well now I have ubuntu FULL INSTALL on a dual boot with XP
[07:54] <drewfus> whenever i run synaptic i get this error
[07:54] <zeus1_> props to all u guys
[07:54] <drewfus> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[07:54] <drewfus>  Child terminated with 1 status
[07:54] <michele> mebaran151, www.xulplanet.com
[07:54] <hablandocontigo> QMario, yes, I was told it was in the 66/100/133 family
[07:54] <crimsun> davieP: try booting with pci=noacpi and/or noapic
[07:54] <mebaran151> michele, do you know if you can write the backend in a language like ruby
[07:55] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, shop on newegg.com, outpost.com, and/or microcenter.com.
[07:55] <ce33na> drewfus: sounds like a permission issue
[07:55] <mebaran151> I am writing a db app at the moment
[07:55] <brenner> drewfus: ah, sorry. :) you probably have another synaptic instance running already
[07:55] <brenner> or that :)
[07:55] <drewfus> no i just rebooted
[07:55] <drewfus> yes this is not on the root but it is a fully enabled user
[07:55] <mebaran151> drewfus, sounds like it crashed
[07:55] <zeus1_> the install for linux took a long time...but now i have it fully installed
[07:55] <mebaran151> you might have to delete a lockfile, drewfus
[07:55] <drewfus> yes it does but thats not normal
[07:55] <drewfus> ?
[07:55] <mebaran151> yeah
[07:55] <drewfus> mebaran151, lockfile?
[07:55] <hablandocontigo> QMario, thanks for the store recommendations
[07:56] <QMario> Drewfus, you could always use apt-get or aptitude for the time being... :)
[07:56] <mebaran151> drewfus, a file synaptic creates
[07:56] <mebaran151> just to make sure that no other instance starts
[07:56] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, no problem.
[07:56] <drewfus> QMario, this is my brothers account he doesnt know how to use commands
[07:56] <mebaran151> that is why you get an error when you try to start to instances of apt or synaptic or whatever
[07:56] <QMario> Drewfus, oh. :-/
[07:56] <drewfus> mebaran151, how do i fix it
[07:56] <brenner> zeus1_: really? how long?
[07:57] <zeus1_> umm like 15-20 mins
[07:57] <mebaran151> drewfus
[07:57] <mebaran151> go into /tmp
[07:57] <davieP> ubuntu is nice!
[07:57] <zeus1_> but its worth it
[07:57] <zeus1_> ubuntu rules
[07:57] <davieP> (=
[07:57] <mebaran151> though you say you rebooted right?
[07:57] <zeus1_> yes
[07:57] <zeus1_> it installed all those packagesw
[07:57] <drewfus> mebaran151, yeah
[07:57] <zeus1_> packages*
[07:57] <brenner> zeus1_: you call that long?!
[07:57] <davieP> i used to use fc4.. ubuntu is bettar
[07:57] <zeus1_> lol...sry im just impatient
[07:57] <mebaran151> hmmm lock files are supposed to be deleted on boot
[07:58] <mebaran151> part of the whole tmpfs thing
[07:58] <mebaran151> what error are you getting
[07:58] <davieP> ...anyways any good recording software for *nix, and more specifically ubuntu rather than Audacity?
[07:58] <drewfus> mebaran151, everytime i do anything where i enter the root password it gives me that error
[07:58] <zeus1_> brb...gonna try booting XP
[07:58] <zeus1_> ill get back to yas
[07:58] <drewfus> Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator:
[07:58] <drewfus>  Child terminated with 1 status
[07:59] <davieP> any good recording software for ubuntu other than Audacity?
[07:59] <GlenC> I'm trying to stream a movie from my linux box connected to the router but I'm only getting about 70 kb/s, not enough to stream without hops, is it the old computer being slow or is it the network?
[07:59] <hablandocontigo> davieP, I've only found Audacity as the only free program of its kind, but that doesn't answer your question directly
[07:59] <persia> davieP: How high end do you want?  snd does a good job for simple things, and then there's Ardour for those with special needs.
[07:59] <davieP> fairly high end
[07:59] <davieP> audacity is buggy.
[08:00] <GlenC> ...
[08:00] <davieP> it's quite buggy actually
[08:00] <Gnonthgol> I was just wondering if anybody knew how to change the language that bugs are displayd in, for sending them on english speaking comunitys like this one
[08:00] <persia> davieP: Yes, audacity has several issues.  I've heard great things about ardour, but I don't understand the entire interface.  Worked for me for simple 2-track recording though...
[08:00] <youngcoder> cant you install a theme by dragging the tar file into the theme manager?
[08:00] <davieP> persia: i'll check out ardour now, thanks
[08:01] <youngcoder> because i keep getting invalid file format error
[08:01] <dopry> ardour is great... especially if you are used to a protools like interface
[08:01] <persia> Gnonthgol: You can temporarily tun any program in English by prefacing the command with LANG=en, which may help (depending on the nature of the error)
[08:02] <drewfus> mebaran151, i have to go, i'll have to come back and deal with it later
[08:02] <Gnonthgol> thanks persia
[08:02] <zeus1_> hey guys....XP booted fine...my dual boot system works amazingly
[08:02] <drewfus> mebaran151, thanks
[08:02] <zeus1_> mission accomplished....i have entered the world of linux
[08:02] <davieP> persia: installing ardour ;)
[08:02] <brenner> zeus1_:have fun :)
[08:02] <Cody`> may I get some help with nvidia drivers? I installed following the ubuntuguide.org directions
[08:02] <persia> davieP: You probably also want qjackctl
[08:02] <zeus1_> thanks
[08:03] <Cody`> and I end up getting blurs of color
[08:03] <zeus1_> and thank u to everyone who helped me out last night with linux
[08:03] <davieP> persia: this is alot more high tech than audacity, too high end!!
[08:03] <dopry> zeus1: congrats... and there is Jamin for post production...
[08:03] <Cody`> http://www.crxgames.com/private_ftp/imag0002.jpg
[08:03] <Cody`> that is what my screen looks like
[08:04] <persia> davieP: Sorry: I don't know anything in between.  Ardour has a *lot* of features, but the docs aren't too bad.  May as well play around a little.
[08:04] <Almindor> well.. atleast E works
[08:04] <Cody`> and it will run if I nvidia-glx-config disable
[08:04] <dopry> davieP: meant to tell you, there is also JaMin for post/digital mastering...
[08:04] <Cody`> but won't use nvidia drivers :x
[08:04] <Almindor> half of the packages are badly broken, qt-fonts are broken(gtk works tho)
[08:04] <dopry> davieP: just a bunch of high quality eq/compression/etc plugins
[08:04] <Almindor> just an advisory to breezy-wannabies like me :)
[08:04] <davieP> ardour: [ERROR] : Could not connect to JACK server as  "ardour"
[08:05] <Almindor> is there a way to reconfigure all packages?
[08:06] <davieP> qjackctl?
[08:06] <Almindor> I think my locale was broken good half of the installations..
[08:06] <dopry> davieP do you have jack installed and running?
[08:06] <Cody`> anyone have any ideas?
[08:06] <persia> davieP: qjackctl lets you start and manage jack: you'll need to manually link your sound card inputs to jack jacks to connect to the ardour inputs.  Like you said, it's fairly high end.
[08:07] <userc479> Hello there people
[08:07] <davieP> dopry & persia: i'll stick to audacity.
[08:07] <davieP> )=
[08:07] <userc479> does this ubuntv also work with Windows Application?
[08:08] <MrLaminar> hi everyone
[08:08] <Cody`> anyone have an ideas why the nvidia driver isn't working? http://www.crxgames.com/private_ftp/imag0002.jpg is what happens when you install it
[08:08] <ce33na> userc479: there is a project called WINE which allows some windows apps to run under linux, but generally...no
[08:08] <topyli> user1: not really
[08:08] <persia> Almindor: dpkg-reconfigure `dpkg -l | awk '{ print $2 }'` should do it, but you may not really want to do this.
[08:08] <MrLaminar> my thinkpad a22m uses acpi, but does not power off automatically after showing "Power Down."
[08:09] <MrLaminar> does anyone now how to fix it?
[08:09] <userc479> topyli-that's a bit of blow isn't it-it would be brilliant if it did
[08:09] <ce33na> userc479: we are reaching a point in the linux world where there is a linux equivalent to most windows apps anyway.
[08:09] <persia> userc479: What do you want to run that isn't available?
[08:09] <userc479> i got 25 of these CD hoping it's gonna be a great life if it did take on Windows-I need it to take AOL and Worms Armageddon
[08:10] <userc479> and Frontpage and a few other application
[08:10] <Cody`> eww frontpage
[08:10] <Cody`> ick
[08:10] <Cody`> Quanta is great on linux
[08:10] <topyli> userc479: worms armageddon would be really nice
[08:10] <GoClick> Seveas may I private message you?
[08:10] <userc479> lol  - it is vital WA works on it!
[08:11] <Seveas> GoClick, be my guest
[08:11] <Seveas> (if your nickname is registered that is)
[08:11] <hellekin> re all (my upgrade went perfectly well)
[08:11] <D1> to breezy?
[08:11] <persia> userc479: There are several alternatives to Frontpage: which to choose depends on your environment too much for a specific recommendation.  There is a limited AOL client, but I'm not familiar enough with Worms Armaggeddon to know if that would work.
[08:11] <topyli> userc479: it's windows's killer app :)
[08:11] <userc479> anyway-thanks for your help guys-i have gtg
[08:12] <ce33na> well...at least he asked
[08:12] <GoClick> Wow an AOL user that knows what Linux is?
[08:12] <Gnonthgol> Had Linux got the grafics eqivelent to windows I think every gamer would use Linux
[08:12] <ce33na> GoClick: no doubt
[08:12] <hellekin> I'm trying to use a small digital camera with gphoto2. Connection via USB. With sudo it works fine, but I'd like my user to be able to mount it. Does it need SUID or changing groups?
[08:13] <traveller> some unicode characters are not displayed properly...us there a package i can install to get them displayed?
[08:13] <crimsun> hellekin: it should mount automatically (an icon should appear on the desktop)
[08:13] <traveller> *is there...
[08:13] <hellekin> D1: no, to Hoary but via some weird path
[08:13] <persia> hellekin: Check which group owns the /dev entry for your camera: you should be able to add your user to the group.
[08:13] <ce33na> hellekin: its a user permission problem
[08:14] <hellekin> persia Yes, I thought that... But which device is it? It's USB
[08:14] <persia> traveller: That's usually a font problem.  Add more fonts until you find one that has all the characters you need.
[08:14] <traveller> persia: alright, thanks
[08:14] <hellekin> thank you guys. I'm ignorant of udev and such
[08:14] <HiddenWolf> Crimsun, I just installed Breezy today on a fresh harddrive. Popped in my audigy2, opened all amixer channels, and heard nothing but static. When I do the same on my audigy1 card, I can hear some music, but still the static is overwhelming.
[08:14] <unvs> are there no netinstall images available for ubuntu?
[08:15] <persia> hellekin: If you unplug it, and plug it back in, you may see something useful in the output of `dmesg | tail`
[08:15] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: daily Breezy or Colony 3?
[08:15] <HiddenWolf> Daily
[08:15] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: try with Colony 3. If it still appears, file a bug, and I'll try to push ALSA 1.0.10rc in.
[08:16] <joefso3> I'm following the ubuntu guide, I added the extra repositorys but I can't install sun-jre!!
[08:16] <redguy> !dirty-java
[08:16] <ubotu> redguy: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:16] <HiddenWolf> Right, I'll download colony3
[08:16] <Cody`> joefso3, do a synaptic search for sun
[08:16] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: keep in mind with your bug report, I'll need the contents of /proc/asound/
[08:16] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: as well as the lspci -v|grep -i audio information
[08:17] <HiddenWolf> Now that's the info I was looking for.
[08:17] <persia> joefso3: The ubuntu guide is not very explanatory.  Try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=Java15
[08:17] <Whistler> where can i find things that starts with my systems
[08:17] <Whistler> ?
[08:17] <Whistler> all deamons
[08:18] <hellekin> persia: the usual USB addressing, but I don't know how to 'ls -l /dev/whatisthat' to see which group and what perms
[08:18] <Cody`> Would anyone be willing to help with my nvidia driver issue?
[08:18] <topyli> Whistler: the init scripts are in /etc/init.d
[08:18] <hellekin> Cody` go ahead
[08:18] <Cody`> I installed the driver using ubuntuguide.org's directions
[08:18] <persia> Whistler: you can see which scripts are started in each runlevel in /etc/rc?.d/
[08:18] <spstarr> can I upgrade from Debian unstable to ubuntu unstable?
[08:18] <Cody`> when I restart x
[08:19] <spstarr> or do i need to reinstall ? :)
[08:19] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, I'll go to colony 3 and recap the bug.
[08:19] <Cody`> I get a blurred screen
[08:19] <Cody`> that is white and black
[08:19] <GoClick> In Synaptic I try and install apache (1.3.33-4) and it tells me it's going to install apache2-utils, is that going to be an issue with it being 1.3.33-44?
[08:19] <GoClick> ignore that last 4
[08:19] <Seveas> spstarr, it will be tricky
[08:19] <Whistler> persia thx
[08:19] <Seveas> *very* tricky even
[08:19] <Cody`> any ideas?
[08:19] <spstarr> Seveas: it is possible to do?
[08:19] <Cody`> works without the driver
[08:19] <spstarr> or i need to do a dist-upgrade with ubuntu?
[08:19] <hellekin> let me check the guide's instructions
[08:20] <Cody`> k
[08:20] <Seveas> basically: pin hoary to 1001, sid to 50, dist-upgrade and install ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <spstarr> 1001 50?
[08:20] <spstarr> whats this numbers
[08:20] <Seveas> 1001 means: downgrading allowed, 50 means get rid of this
[08:20] <spstarr> is there a wiki on this?
[08:20] <timtux> Wired, i cant install Ubuntu from an orderd CD. But my own burned from an ISO works. And it is driffrence in the installer.
[08:21] <timtux> I think it was same shit diffrent cd
[08:21] <timtux> :-D
[08:21] <reiki> !mp3
[08:21] <spstarr> i cant just edit sources.list put ubuntu's into the list?
[08:21] <ubotu> mp3 is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:21] <dryhump> When I was installing Ubuntu it did not connect to my DHCP server with my wireless NIC, but worked fine with my integrated NIC.  How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my wireless NIC during install or after install?
[08:21] <hellekin> Cody` Check if your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf mentions 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' for the driver
[08:21] <spstarr> then do a dist-upgrade?
[08:22] <spstarr> Seveas: what about debian unstable -> ubuntu unstable
[08:22] <spstarr> they are close aren't they?
[08:22] <persia> hellekin: It looks like it is supposed to mount as an additional SCSI drive.  Try `ls -l /dev/sd*`
[08:22] <Seveas> spstarr, same difference
[08:23] <Seveas> upgrading to ubuntu unstable is always trick
[08:23] <hellekin> persia: oh yes, sd* thanks!
[08:23] <Seveas> once the next version is released an upgrade from stable to stable is easier
[08:23] <spstarr> so i cant just put the ubuntu apt lists in sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?
[08:23] <spstarr> :)
[08:23] <persia> spstarr: Some packages in debian unstable are newer even than breezy.  You're best bet is to stop upgrading sid for six months, and then migrate to breezy+1.
[08:24] <spstarr> persia: debian unstable doesnt even have kde 3.4.2 though
[08:24] <spstarr> ubuntu does
[08:24] <Whistler> can i stop powernowd from booting?
[08:24] <Whistler> will it be safe?
[08:24] <persia> spstarr: Yes, but some packages are in the other direction.  Changing will be painful (Seveas is *always* right(.
[08:25] <dryhump> Does anyone have any suggestions for getting Ubuntu to work with a Belkin wireless NIC?
[08:25] <hellekin> persia: no mounted partition and I have only two sd* devices with rather secure permissions: 0750 root.plugdev
[08:25] <Seveas> spstarr, wait a month and upgrade to breezy
[08:25] <spstarr> so if i do a dist-upgrade it will break my system? :)
[08:25] <Seveas> that's the easiest route
[08:25] <persia> hellekin: Is your user a member of plugdev?
[08:25] <hellekin> so even if I add my user to plugdev he would only be able to read
[08:25] <Seveas> spstarr, breezy is too unstable now
[08:25] <spstarr> Seveas: i could do that
[08:25] <Seveas> and sarge/sid -> hoary is a difficult route
[08:25] <reiki> I want to play MP3 files I just transferred over from my old WinXP install. I read teh wiki how to install gstreamer stuff so totem can play these files. Is this the best way? Is there a better app for playing media files?
[08:25] <spstarr> Seveas: well how do you define 'too unstable'
[08:26] <spstarr> since im using debian unstable/experimental
[08:26] <spstarr> its not even sid/sarge
[08:26] <liquidfire> !dma
[08:26] <Seveas> spstarr, it's worse like experimental at times ;)
[08:26] <Cody`> hellekin, it does
[08:26] <Seveas> but it's quite allright already
[08:26] <^thehatsrule^> hdparm -d1 /dev/xxx
[08:26] <Gnonthgol> Whistler: /etc/init.d/* is the scripts that controls the deamons
[08:26] <Seveas> if you know your way around X problems, you can give it a shot
[08:26] <spstarr> yes I do
[08:26] <ubuntuser> im finally registered
[08:26] <Baskerville> can someone help me?
[08:26] <spstarr> im using Xorg-HEAD from cvs
[08:26] <Seveas> spstarr, *g*
[08:26] <spstarr> so not even the deb Xorg packages
[08:27] <spstarr> hehe
[08:27] <Seveas> then it should not be a problem :D
[08:27] <crimsun> Baskerville: please don't ask to ask
[08:27] <spstarr> ok so i just need to drop in a ubuntu apt mirror and do a dist-upgrade?
[08:27] <crimsun> just ask
[08:27] <Whistler> Gnonthgol can i remove powernowd from /etc/rc01.d ?
[08:27] <Whistler> will it stop ir from booting?
[08:27] <Baskerville> i have a sound problem
[08:27] <Baskerville> It says it can't find the sound device
[08:28] <persia> hellekin: I'm not sure if you want to, but you can change the permissions in /etc/udev/udev.rules
[08:28] <spstarr> Seveas: the closest mirror being ubuntu.yorku.ca
[08:28] <persia> hellekin: Oops: permissions.ruls
[08:28] <Gnonthgol> Whistler: try she script with stop to test it
[08:28] <spstarr> http://debian.yorku.ca/ubuntu/
[08:28] <Seveas> spstarr, have ubuntu-base installed
[08:28] <carthik> hi, though I have added the backports repos to sources.list, i can't find the sun-j2re1.5 package there
[08:28] <Seveas> ubuntu-desktop may be a bad idea if you use xorg head
[08:28] <carthik> can someone let me know what i am doing wrong?
[08:29] <Seveas> carthik, backports has problems
[08:29] <spstarr> right but whats the apt mirror repo
[08:29] <Gnonthgol> Whistler: # /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[08:29] <crimsun> Baskerville: what says that?
[08:29] <timtux> carthik, i cant to
[08:29] <Seveas> spstarr, ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <Ave> is it safe to upgrade into breezy yet?
[08:29] <carthik> Seveas, is this temporary, or are we in for a long run of problems?
[08:29] <timtux> Ave, NO
[08:29] <crimsun> Baskerville: you have to be very precise when providing details for troubleshooting
[08:29] <Ave> I read about some X package splitting and related problems
[08:29] <liquidfire> taoyer^^
[08:29] <carthik> I installed it a couple of days ago just fine
[08:29] <liquidfire> is a spam bot
[08:29] <hellekin> persia: that sounds perfect.
[08:29] <Seveas> spstarr, full list: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:29] <timtux> i did it today, hole my system crashed
[08:29] <Ave> I run debian unstable on my desktop :-\
[08:29] <carthik> also with acroread the backport version is not there... 7.x.x.///
[08:29] <liquidfire> How can I list all my harddisks?
[08:29] <hellekin> Cody` could you please put your Modules Section on pastebin.com?
[08:29] <liquidfire> I want to enable DMA
[08:29] <Whistler> Gnonthgol my pc still works so that means i can remove it?
[08:30] <GoClick> Is there a way to get samba to not keep it's on password database and just rely on the passwords already on the system for users so as to avoid them getting out of synch?
[08:30] <Seveas> GoClick, no
[08:30] <Gnonthgol> whistler: yes, but just move it to another dir.
[08:30] <liquidfire> How can I list all my harddisks? I want to enable DMA :)?
[08:30] <GoClick> Is there a reason why that I'd like to know about?
[08:30] <persia> Ave:You may do better with Colony 3 than today's random packages.
[08:30] <spstarr> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy ?
[08:30] <ce33na> liquidfire: do you know about the hdparm command?
[08:31] <liquidfire> yes
[08:31] <liquidfire> but i want a list
[08:31] <dryhump> Does anyone know of any suggestions for getting UBuntu to work with Belkin wireless nics
[08:31] <Seveas> spstarr, full list: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 <-- read that and add ca. at appropriate places
[08:31] <liquidfire> so i can add them to the hdparm.config
[08:31] <GoClick> Seveas, is it a security thing?
[08:31] <liquidfire> or is it hdparm -l ?
[08:31] <Ave> persia: I thought that doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list would get me colony3?
[08:31] <Seveas> GoClick, yup
[08:31] <Seveas> Ave, no
[08:31] <Seveas> it will give you the current
[08:31] <hellekin> persia: can't find any mention of plugdev in udev.permissions. All I see is 0660 perms for sd* devices!
[08:31] <Seveas> which is more recent than C3
[08:31] <Ave> gotcha, how to get C3 then?
[08:32] <GoClick> Does the samba package that 'comes with' Ubuntu synch properly using smbpasswd ?
[08:32] <spstarr> thats for hoary
[08:32] <persia> hellekin: huh?  permissions.rules doesn't list plugdev?
[08:32] <Seveas> GoClick, yep
[08:32] <spstarr> what is the equiv for 'debian experimental/unstable' for ubuntu?
[08:32] <spstarr> breezy right now?
[08:32] <Seveas> spstarr, yes
[08:32] <spstarr> there's no static name?
[08:32] <Cody`> hellekin: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1D555J46.html
[08:32] <GoClick> How do I install a .deb file?
[08:32] <liquidfire> anyone :/?
[08:32] <Seveas> spstarr, it's in the make
[08:32] <spstarr> or it will change as new releases happen
[08:32] <liquidfire> btw
[08:32] <liquidfire> whats up with the forums
[08:32] <liquidfire> getting alot of erros
[08:32] <liquidfire> :(
[08:33] <Seveas> a rolling sid-like unstable will be created soon
[08:33] <spstarr> ahh ok
[08:33] <spstarr> thats fine let me add breezy
[08:33] <ce33na> liquidfire: I'm trying to figure out how to tell you how to do this
[08:33] <reiki> Synaptic question. ..I just clicked a box in front of non-free multiverse (so I could add some gstreamer stuff) and now.... how do get rid of those non-free multiverse repos I just added?
[08:33] <carthik> GoClick, http://www.google.com/search?q=How+do+I+install+a+.deb+file%3F&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[08:33] <liquidfire> ce33na, thanks
[08:33] <ce33na> liquidfire: brb
[08:33] <Ave> what happens when mr shuttleworth runs out of money or interest for ubuntu?
[08:33] <liquidfire> i know to do hdparm -d1 devicename
[08:33] <liquidfire> but i'm adding those to the hdparm.config
[08:33] <liquidfire> Ave, look for other investors ?
[08:34] <liquidfire> there should be plenty
[08:34] <persia> hellekin: I suspect the discrepancy is because I've made a mess of my workstation.  Try `grep plugdev /etc/udev/*` to find a useful file.
[08:34] <Ave> yeah but, is there plans for this
[08:34] <carthik> reiki edit /etc/apt/source.list
[08:34] <carthik> sources.list
[08:34] <liquidfire> dunno
[08:34] <ce33na> liquidfire: have you typed df
[08:34] <Cody`> hellekin, I just pasted the whole xorg so I wouldn't need to paste more later
[08:34] <ce33na> or should I say...used df
[08:34] <Ave> I'm afraid to deploy ubuntu beyond simple testing bc I dont want to end up stranded
[08:34] <Cody`> xorg.conf*
[08:34] <liquidfire> nope
[08:34] <liquidfire> thanks
[08:34] <liquidfire> =] 
[08:34] <spstarr> ok aptitude sycronized
[08:34] <Ave> there has been plans to merge ubuntu stuff into debian so..
[08:34] <liquidfire> Ave, :o
[08:34] <christos> hello, i can't find package "gdl-1.0". can anyone help?
[08:35] <ce33na> it will not show your cd's or dvd's unless one is mounted
[08:35] <liquidfire> they should get one big thing thne
[08:35] <liquidfire> imo
[08:35] <Ave> so hmm, did I miss it, how to get from hoary to C3?
[08:35] <Seveas> spstarr, don't forget to install ubuntu-base and an ubuntu kernel
[08:35] <Antarez> depending on how well this all goes
[08:35] <crimsun> Ave: stranded? Why? There's paid support, and the support runs for 18 months or LONGER.
[08:35] <spstarr> hrm
[08:35] <liquidfire> plus you have more developers
[08:35] <Antarez> I'm rather disappointed in multimedia capabilities out-of-the-box
[08:35] <liquidfire> which "can" make things go faster
[08:35] <nooneelse> someone knows where to find the libdvdcss2 for ubuntu ?
[08:35] <liquidfire> Antarez, thats because of the copy/trademark rights
[08:36] <liquidfire> =/
[08:36] <spstarr> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver, Resolve generated breaks, this may have caused held packages
[08:36] <persia> Ave: grab a Colony 3 CD, add the cd to /etc/apt/sources.list, and then upgrade normally.
[08:36] <Seveas> Ave, don't install development versions on production sites
[08:36] <Seveas> that's silly
[08:36] <unvs> are you serious... i CANT burn the ubuntu cd-image to a dvd :x
[08:36] <spstarr> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packags cannot be installed
[08:36] <spstarr> hahaha
[08:36] <unvs> how 2005
[08:36] <spstarr> ok so it didnt like me trying to do a dist-upgrade yet
[08:36] <Ave> persia: woo, no other way than cd update? theres no repository?
[08:36] <Seveas> spstarr, any more details?
[08:37] <spstarr> trying to install unbuntu-base needs ubuntu-minimal
[08:37] <Ave> Seveas: I'm not, I'm just testing ubuntu on my laptop and I'm very impressed
[08:37] <spstarr> cannot install ubuntu-minimal
[08:37] <spstarr> needs libc-i686
[08:37] <nooneelse> someone ?
[08:37] <spstarr> ouch
[08:37] <persia> Ave: Not for colony 3: it was a preview snapshot, for those who wanted a taste.  IF you can wait another six weeks, there'll be a real repository for Breezy.
[08:37] <spstarr> i cannot upgrade from debian experimental -> breezy
[08:37] <Ave> ok, thanks for the info
[08:37] <Ave> I can wait!
[08:37] <Seveas> spstarr, hmm, the libc badness
[08:37] <hellekin> Cody` where is your file?
[08:38] <spstarr> indeed
[08:38] <liquidfire> !pastebin
[08:38] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:38] <Ave> crimsun: well you know the ubuntu boauty system etc, but the money has to come from somewhere, ubuntu has riesn from nowhere in no time
[08:38] <spstarr> i guess i need to reinstall to ubuntu stable -> breezy
[08:38] <rickity> anyone know if the --checksum flag for rsync works for local coping?
[08:38] <hellekin> oh, another pastebin ;o)
[08:38] <Ave> I'm just curious how ubuntu's future is being secured for
[08:38] <Cody`> hellekin: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1D555J46.html
[08:38] <Seveas> spstarr, trick: mkdir partial
[08:38] <Seveas>  apt-get -o"Dir::Cache::archives=`pwd`" -o"Debug::NoLocking=true" -o"Dir::State::status=/dev/null" -d install ubuntu-base
[08:38] <persia> spstarr: You can shortcut that with Colony 3
[08:38] <liquidfire> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1662 <[08:38] <ce33na> Ave: my wife was having severe problems with a $2000 Sager laptop a couple of months back. XP sp2 was severely hosed from the factory. It would only run a few minutes. Works perfect with Ubuntu. A couple of drivers are lacking, but it is overall working great.
[08:38] <Seveas> dpkg -i --force-downgrade *.deb
[08:39] <crimsun> Ave: it has secure financial backing. Check the Canonical Web site for more information.
[08:39] <Ave> I find ubuntu faster than stock debian-sarge for example, weird stuff, is it psychological or have they done something to speed it up
[08:39] <rickity> i tried copying a directory using rsync and the files don't match..even though i used --checksum
[08:40] <spstarr> Seveas: that returns a huge list
[08:40] <Seveas> list of what?
[08:40] <Ave> ubuntu foundation and 10 mill start, ok.
[08:40] <hellekin> Cody` well, except if your BusID is incorrect, I don't see any weird thing here.
[08:40] <Ave> and ambitious plans regarding release and support cycles
[08:41] <ce33na> Ave: the guy behind Canonical is one of the few dot com success stories if I remember correctly
[08:41] <spstarr> its downloading 195MB
[08:41] <nooneelse> hey folks
[08:41] <Cody`> hellekin: hmm
[08:41] <Ave> ce33na: yeah, thawte
[08:41] <Cody`> hellekin: any ideas then?
[08:41] <robotgeek> spstarr: it does :)
[08:41] <Seveas> spstarr, that's normal
[08:41] <spstarr> interesting... Seveas its downloading all of that
[08:41] <spstarr> never used apt in this mannor before
[08:41] <Ave> I'm aware of mark's accomplishments etc, I'm not doubting him per se
[08:41] <spstarr> :)
[08:41] <rickity> ubuntu is the first distro to find its way on everyone of my machines...and is now my primary os
[08:41] <nooneelse> I'm trying to see a dvd in totem but its returning that "im trying to see a dvd without libdvdcss", what could this be ?
[08:41] <hellekin> Cody` try using the proprietary installer from Nvidia
[08:41] <Seveas> spstarr, it's a trick I learned from planet debian a few days ago :)
[08:41] <Cody`> hellekin: Can do
[08:42] <robotgeek> ubotu tell nooneelse about codecs
[08:42] <Ave> I've been using linux on my desktop from '96 and ubuntu was the first thing in many years that was really something else, it just works
[08:42] <rickity> guess I'll have to check the source code for rsync
[08:42] <unvs> 38 seeds and i'm getting 1.2kb/s
[08:42] <unvs> yay
[08:42] <rickity> seems to me like rsync is not honoring the --checksum flag
[08:42] <unvs> :D
[08:42] <spstarr> Seveas: thats one interesting trick
[08:42] <hellekin> Cody` wait
[08:42] <spstarr> but how does it resolve dependencies now? :)
[08:42] <robotgeek> Ave: yeah, i've used YDL, debian and ubuntu. ubuntu just works!
[08:42] <Cody`> hellekin: k
[08:42] <spstarr> or it'll just remove the old packages
[08:42] <nooneelse> robotgeek, doesnt matter if there restricted formats I just want to find out those packages and install it
[08:43] <Seveas> spstarr, it downloads all dependencies :)
[08:43] <hellekin> Cody` start with adding other modes like 1280x1024 1024x768
[08:43] <robotgeek> nooneelse: instructions are present there!
[08:43] <Seveas> it uses an empty dpkg status
[08:43] <nooneelse> robotgeek, ok i'll see
[08:43] <robotgeek> unvs: what client are u using?
[08:43] <Seveas> with --force-downgrade you may have luck installing the debs
[08:43] <hellekin> Cody` 1680x1050 looks weird =8)
[08:43] <spstarr> if that doesn't work?
[08:43] <Cody`> hellekin: Doubt that would fix it, as that mode works using regular vesa via X, it's widescreen
[08:43] <durt> is it ok to add multiple modelines to xorg.conf?
[08:44] <robotgeek> spstarr: don't u have a separate /home partition?
[08:44] <Ave> now with X.org advances (they are porting kdrive/kaa in replacing crappy old XAA architecture) we'll get something comparable to OSX eyecandy maybe in few years time
[08:44] <Ave> but if there will be x86 OSX...
[08:44] <spstarr> no
[08:44] <spstarr> download done
[08:44] <spackes1> howdy, just got ubuntu up and running on my amd64 box with sata, and it worked like a champ
[08:44] <spstarr> its doing downgrade
[08:44] <hellekin> Cody` I have an nVidia on a 1280x800 display that works fine with nvidia driver, but vesa doesn't like it
[08:44] <robotgeek> spstarr: cool
[08:44] <spackes1> now I just can't get ant to work via apt-get
[08:44] <spackes1> anyone got a a nice apt source that I can install ant from on amd64?
[08:45] <ce33na> I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a version of OSX for commodity grade pcs
[08:45] <spackes1> dies on some glibc install
[08:45] <spstarr> some conflicting packages
[08:45] <Cody`> hellekin, this is odd then, because the driver should work, but it's not :/
[08:45] <hellekin> durt with a multisync screen yes
[08:45] <ce33na> I always feel like I am draggin an anchor with osX anyway.
[08:45] <ce33na> I still prefer linux
[08:46] <robotgeek> ce33na: same here
[08:46] <ReleaseX> is the hoary-extras repository still not working correctly?
[08:46] <Ave> I've been lusting over powerbook/ibook for ages but... argh
[08:46] <neighborlee> is the sun j2re package still in ubuntu or was it removed temporarily ???
[08:46] <neighborlee> friend says he can't find it so making sure
[08:46] <Ave> linux has the freedom but also the endless tuning associated with it, but now, with ubuntu I dont have to tune quite so much if ANY
[08:46] <robotgeek> Ave: they are good machines, but if you are running linux, better x86 than ppc :)
[08:46] <spstarr> still going
[08:46] <Seveas> backports has problems neighborlee
[08:46] <liquidfire> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1662 <[08:46] <Ave> yeah well I'm looking for the new LG laptops maybe..
[08:47] <Seveas> liquidfire, yes, the forums have problems. just wait.
[08:47] <Ave> small, thin, and I hope, durable
[08:47] <neighborlee> Seveas, hmm dain what happeend ?
[08:47] <liquidfire> Ah, thanks Seveas :)
[08:47] <persia> neighborlee: The repository where it is stored is not working correctly right now.  It will probably get better, but no schedule at this point.
[08:47] <nooneelse> I hate depend of packages
[08:47] <nooneelse> back to slackware again
[08:47] <neighborlee> persia, kewl ok thx for verify..
[08:47] <spackes1> hello?
[08:48] <Ave> I think if apple goes OSX they have to dicth their only good assett, controlled hardware, which means they'll have as crappy OS with buggy kernel level drivers for weird hardware
[08:48] <robotgeek> Ave: i think someone will say #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:48] <Ave> sorry
[08:48] <spstarr> done
[08:48] <Ave> ubuntu is great!
[08:48] <crimsun> spackes1: you're not looking too hard. ant is in universe.
[08:48] <spstarr> Errors encountered:
[08:48] <robotgeek> Ave: join in there!
[08:48] <spstarr> bind, dhcp
[08:48] <WhiteRabbit> boot lickers
[08:48] <spstarr> e2fsprogs
[08:48] <spstarr> libc
[08:48] <spackes1> just chokes on the 64 part I think
[08:49] <spstarr> python minimal/python
[08:49] <spstarr> alsa-utils
[08:49] <spstarr> ubuntu-base/ubuntu-minimal
[08:49] <spstarr> but finished
[08:49] <Seveas> not bad
[08:49] <spstarr> now what? :)
[08:49] <spackes1> I have tried a few different repositories
[08:49] <hellekin> Cody` you tried with a classical resolution? As the instructions in the guide are fairly simple and it worked before, I don't see any solution ahead... Except retrying with the proprietary driver
[08:49] <crimsun> spackes1: it's in universe. I just installed it.
[08:49] <spackes1> amd64?
[08:49] <Seveas> try the libc again with --force-it-goddamnit or other obscure dpkg options :)
[08:49] <crimsun> yes
[08:49] <crimsun> spackes1: apt-cache policy ant
[08:49] <spstarr> --force-it-goddamnit
[08:49] <spstarr> hahahaha
[08:50] <Seveas> you get the point :)
[08:50] <Seveas> the manpage lists a lot of --force- parameters
[08:50] <spstarr> that option dosnt work :)
[08:50] <spackes1> yeah, it finds it at my nice arizona mirror
[08:50] <spstarr> oh apt not dpkg
[08:51] <spstarr> er dpkg
[08:51] <Seveas> anyhow, /me afk for a sec
[08:51] <spstarr> force --all
[08:51] <Cody`> hellekin, I just set it to one, I'll retry with the drivers
[08:51] <spstarr> force-downgrade libc
[08:52] <spstarr> its in
[08:52] <spstarr> forcing rest
[08:52] <Cody`> hellekin, nope. no luck
[08:53] <hellekin> Cody` that's weird...
[08:54] <spstarr> i have to remove some packages first
[08:54] <spstarr> since ubuntu-minimal won't force
[08:54] <crimsun> !tell Baskerville about alsa-source
[08:54] <spstarr> so im down to ubuntu-base/minimal as final packages
[08:54] <spstarr> after unpacking: 829MB will be *FREED*
[08:54] <spstarr> heheheh!
[08:54] <Shacham> how can i edit /etc/asound.conf (ALSA config)? i open it using 'sudo gedit' but its still read only
[08:54] <remyforbes777> just installed ubuntu 64 on an amd 64 turion and its freezing after login
[08:55] <remyforbes777> im using kubuntu desktop
[08:55] <spstarr> ok so now its going to rip out debian unstable completely...
[08:55] <spstarr> this should be interesting
[08:55] <spstarr> if my x dies, you'll know why :)
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  this is coverrted in the forums - you will be having some BIG issues.. i also have similer setup
[08:56] <remyforbes777> why is that Dr_willis
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  for a start you need to use the svga, or use the noacell option to get X going ok.. but then there is some other issues
[08:56] <flugh> i gotta get xchat to identify before joining. yeesh. i feel dirty after all that
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  the thing has some oddities it seems. I did find that knoppix 4.0 worked Very well on my laptop
[08:56] <remyforbes777> how do i use svga
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  also check if you can enable 'dma' with 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hda'  - i couldent enable it on my laptop
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  i edited my xorg.conf
[08:57] <spstarr> Seveas: this is interesting indeed
[08:57] <flugh> what can i add to ignore to stop these incoming msg's?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  the ubuntu forums had a few articals on it - the things are so new that most disrtos have issues. :(
[08:57] <Ave> cheers, toodles
[08:57] <spstarr> deb's dependency tree is so amazing it knows all the remaining packages on my system are not correct for ubuntu
[08:57] <spstarr> ;)
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> - flugh  i used some /mode  option mentioned in the other #ubuntu-whateveritwas topic.
[08:58] <remyforbes777> is that the command to enable dma
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  also check if you can enable 'dma' with 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hda'  - i couldent enable it on my laptop
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> i just told ya there. :P
[08:59] <remyforbes777> ok
[08:59] <remyforbes777> thanks
[08:59] <remyforbes777> i will try th at
[08:59] <spstarr> ok
[08:59] <flugh> Dr_Willis, thanks. i'll check back into it. seems to have stopped.
[08:59] <spstarr> ubuntu-minimal is now in
[08:59] <spstarr> ubuntu-base is now in
[08:59] <spstarr> :D
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  my  oponion - at this timne - the thing is just got too many issues. But i bet in a month or so with the newer kenels and so forth - it will be much better supported.
[08:59] <spstarr> im half debian / ubuntu now
[09:00] <Shacham> how can i edit /etc/asound.conf (ALSA config)? i open it using 'sudo gedit' but its still read only
[09:00] <remyforbes777> so you just use knoppix 4.0
[09:00] <spstarr> so now i have to migrate all the packages manually Seveas ?
[09:00] <spstarr> since the remaining ones are marked as kept back (old debian)
[09:00] <flugh> Dr_Willis, got it, thanks.
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  not using any linux on it at the moment. :P
[09:00] <cute_bettong> is there a way to limit the physical ram that ubuntu has access too?
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> theres a few other Turion laptop users in this channel from time to time.
[09:01] <cute_bettong> i have a memory chip that reads 1024 and it's only 512
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> check back later  :) i got to go to work right now. take care
[09:01] <spackes1> well, gonna do a fresh install and just try universe, thanks
[09:01] <cute_bettong> so i want to limit linux to that 512
[09:01] <remyforbes777> thanks
[09:02] <spackes1> crimsun: thanks, never done universe
[09:02] <cute_bettong> any idea?
[09:02] <funkyHat> cute_bettong, is it causing any problems?
[09:02] <cute_bettong> yes
[09:02] <cute_bettong> lots when i game
[09:02] <mebaran151> cute_bettong, what kind of memory you buying
[09:02] <mebaran151> that is a pretty bad thing
[09:03] <cute_bettong> i have ddr 512
[09:03] <cute_bettong> and it's being read as 1024
[09:03] <mebaran151> but ddr 512 should register as ddr 512
[09:03] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:03] <mebaran151> check your BIOS
[09:03] <hellekin> Rhaaaa... gtkam has issues with UTF-8. Some messages break in French.
[09:03] <cute_bettong> yea the chips goofed up some how
[09:03] <mebaran151> first
[09:03] <cute_bettong> it's some no name brand
[09:03] <mebaran151> and then if worst comes to worst
[09:03] <mebaran151> I think you can manually set it as a kernel argument
[09:03] <mebaran151> like
[09:03] <mebaran151> vmlinuz26 mem=512
[09:04] <mebaran151> but that is a BAD sign
[09:04] <cute_bettong> ok so how do i go about doing this?
[09:04] <cute_bettong> yea i know
[09:04] <EasterSunshine> when i start my kubuntu installation, what user is xorg run as?
[09:04] <cute_bettong> >.<
[09:04] <mebaran151> cute_bettong, very bad, I would in fact recoment getting new memory if you could
[09:04] <mebaran151> because if the chips think they are 512
[09:04] <spackes1> I have been using debian for a year or two and ubuntu seems exactly what I want by the way
[09:04] <cute_bettong> i can't thats why i'm using this stick
[09:04] <spstarr> dist-upgrade .....
[09:04] <mebaran151> they might mess up bound things, as they wont know how to access anything
[09:05] <cute_bettong> a freind gave me it
[09:05] <spstarr> i am now unbutu :)
[09:05] <haakonn> i'm trying to install amarok, but i get: "Depends: amarok-arts but it is not going to be installed", etc. am i missing a repository or something?
[09:05] <spackes1> just do the server install and the apt-get what I like
[09:05] <spstarr> now that was rather interesting Seveas .. time to reboot
[09:05] <spstarr> thank you
[09:05] <cute_bettong> so where do i put this argument in?
[09:05] <cute_bettong> so that i limit linux to 512
[09:06] <mebaran151> I dont think it will help
[09:06] <mebaran151> see
[09:06] <mebaran151> if the chips themselves think they are 512
[09:06] <mebaran151> they will internally try to put things over the 512 boudnary
[09:07] <mebaran151> because they think they have 1024 mb to work with
[09:07] <cute_bettong> oh ok
[09:07] <mebaran151> most modern chips I dont think directly translate things liek they should
[09:07] <mebaran151> they jsut pretend to
[09:07] <mebaran151> so you still might have a bad time
[09:07] <mebaran151> the only thing worth checking
[09:08] <mebaran151> is to see if you misset the bios
[09:08] <cute_bettong> yea thats the isshue the stick reads 1024 but theres only 512 it works fine untill it starts trying to wright to the other portion of the 512 that dosen't exist
[09:08] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:08] <cute_bettong> no the bios is fine
[09:08] <mebaran151> does the bios read it as 1024
[09:08] <cute_bettong> i checked and rechecked it to make shure
[09:08] <cute_bettong> yes
[09:08] <mebaran151> it shoudnt....
[09:08] <cute_bettong> but the stick is labled 512
[09:08] <rata_> someone from smeg team?
[09:08] <mebaran151> can you manually set how much mem is accessible in the BIOS
[09:08] <mebaran151> if you can fix it in the BIOS
[09:08] <mebaran151> the kernel will probably read its value
[09:08] <haakonn> anyone successfully installed amarok on hoary? seems i have unresolvable dependencies
[09:08] <mebaran151> use the BIOS value
[09:09] <spackes1> so, yeah, just reinstalled and I already have shell
[09:09] <cute_bettong> hmmm you know i'm not shure i will have to check i'll be right back and let you know
[09:09] <crimsun> haakonn: you're not using backports, are you?
[09:10] <mveers> bye
[09:10] <haakonn> crimsun: yeah, i am
[09:10] <spackes1> judging from my timestamp of 13:02:10, that means I installed in like seven minutes
[09:10] <flugh> 4 years ago, my bud's wife buys me a computer chair for $7 at a yard sale. 1 year ago, i move away, no room, give chair to another friend. i move back a year later. last night help my friend move, no room for the chair. so, i have my old computer chair back :)
[09:10] <spackes1> that kicks!
[09:10] <flugh> guess you had to be here. just struck me as funny
[09:11] <durt> spackes1, you live in south park?
[09:11] <rata_> someone from smeg team?
[09:11] <Seveas> rata_, it's a one-man team :)
[09:11] <spackes1> huh?
[09:11] <PurpleMotion> Hai, fsckers!
[09:11] <crimsun> haakonn: disable it, update, and install amarok
[09:12] <haakonn> crimsun: yeah, i did that now, seems to work, thanks. i'd like to use backports though, if possible
[09:12] <spstarr> Seveas: that was actually less painful as I thought
[09:12] <Seveas> great spstarr
[09:12] <spstarr> but now i need to install KDE :) since the moment i quit X im not going to have a desktop
[09:12] <spstarr> heh
[09:12] <crimsun> !addingrepositories
[09:12] <ubotu> crimsun: Are you on ritalin?
[09:12] <spackes1> wow, apt-get install ant is only like 240 megs from universe
[09:13] <spackes1> guess it likely gets the whole java world
[09:13] <rata_> do you know who he is?
[09:13] <benplaut> !tell Baskerville about repos
[09:14] <rata_> Seveas, do you know who he is?
[09:14] <Seveas> who?
[09:14] <topyli> breezy's lyx-qt still seems to depend on a qt package that's not available
[09:15] <damsko> :D
[09:15] <rata_> the one-man
[09:15] <rata_> the guy from smeg team
[09:15] <topyli> doesn't seem to be here
[09:16] <damsko> has someone installed f4l?
[09:16] <rata_> and what is his nick?
[09:16] <youngcoder> ok i tried to install some themes.. are there only certain themes that work with ubuntu?
[09:16] <youngcoder> cuz i tried dragging them into the theme window
[09:17] <Viziri> hmm, i've managed to install java but it isn't working with firefox.. any ideas?
[09:17] <youngcoder> then tried to move them to the themes folder as root and they still dont work
[09:17] <youngcoder> Viziri, i think there is a mozilla plugin
[09:17] <youngcoder> not sure though
[09:17] <cute_bettong> ok no go
[09:17] <Cody`> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT~!
[09:17] <rata_> topyli, and what is his nick?
[09:17] <Cody`> nvidia drivers work
[09:18] <zeus1_> Hey all...I have a question..
[09:18] <Seveas> rata_, Amaranth
[09:18] <zeus1_> how do I install fluxbox on ubuntu
[09:18] <Seveas> but he's not here
[09:18] <Cody`> must be my crappy card, as the ones from nvidia.com worked great :D
[09:18] <cute_bettong> theres no setting in the bios to limit the memory
[09:18] <rata_> thanks
[09:18] <topyli> rata_: Amaranth
[09:18] <topyli> oh
[09:18] <dwerf> what is the 'make'-command?
[09:18] <Viziri> yes there is, but it's a manual install which takes place outside firefox.
[09:18] <zeus1_> i have got the .deb binary from the fluxbox site
[09:18] <zeus1_> but how do I install on ubuntu??
[09:19] <EasterSunshine> dwerf: it compiles stuff from source
[09:19] <Cody`> dkpg -i file.deb
[09:19] <EasterSunshine> dwerf: you shouldn't be using it since you have apt to install stuff
[09:20] <zeus1_> Cody I got an error
[09:20] <Viziri> another thing, which maybe connected to java plugin problem is when i go to "ubuntu update manager" and try to update, i get errors
[09:20] <dwerf> EasterSunshine > i just donwloaded a game from sourceforge.net
[09:20] <youngcoder> Seveas, can you tell me how to install a theme from Gnome-look.org.. i downloaded a GDM theme and a GTK 2.x theme and tried several methods of installing them and still they dont work
[09:20] <zeus1_> "bash: dkpg: command not found"
[09:20] <youngcoder> is there a trick to it?
[09:20] <dwerf> EasterSunshine > To install Crown and Cutlass in Linux, simply extract the source and type 'make'.
[09:20] <spstarr> nice
[09:20] <rata_> somebody knows how to uninstall smeg from the source?
[09:20] <spstarr> issue shows now Breezy 5.10
[09:20] <dwerf> EasterSunshine > what does that mean?
[09:20] <spstarr> development branch
[09:20] <spstarr> :)
[09:21] <zeus1_> any of u dudes that could help me to install fluxbox
[09:21] <rata_> does somebody know how to uninstall smeg from the source?
[09:21] <spstarr> Seveas: I guess I shouldn't be surprised to be able to upgrade from different debians
[09:22] <cute_bettong> hmm how do i play divx files in linux?
[09:22] <youngcoder> well i give up on installing themes
[09:22] <youngcoder> i spent 2 hours
[09:22] <youngcoder> im going to bed
[09:22] <EasterSunshine> dwerf: `tar xvzf /dir/to/source/tarball.tar.gz && cd /dir/to/source/tree && make`
[09:23] <cute_bettong> how do i play .divx files in linux?
[09:23] <EasterSunshine> dwerf: throw that into a console, replacing the paths with real paths
[09:23] <EasterSunshine> cute_bettong: i think you can rename them to .avi
[09:23] <cute_bettong> ok cool
[09:23] <zeus1_> Anyone that could help me install fluxbox on ubuntu linux
[09:23] <zeus1_> installing is a heck of a lot more complicated than XP
[09:24] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: not really, do you know about apt-get ?
[09:24] <timtux> Have Breezy any relase date yet?
[09:24] <benplaut> just the month
[09:24] <zeus1_> not yet easter
[09:24] <zeus1_> i just installed this
[09:24] <zeus1_> linux
[09:25] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell timtux about release
[09:25] <Viziri> I followed java installation instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions and got java working, but it isn't working in firefox. I did restart firefox too
[09:25] <rata_> does somebody know how to uninstall smeg from the source?
[09:25] <cute_bettong> hmmm dosen't seem to work
[09:25] <EasterSunshine> rata_: try `make uninstall` in the soruce dir
[09:25] <cute_bettong> >.<
[09:25] <cute_bettong> is there an actual plugin for .divx files?
[09:25] <EasterSunshine> cute_bettong: i read that the divx file extension is simply to assert that it is encoded in divx, but the video and audio container is still avi
[09:26] <EasterSunshine> cute_bettong: do .avi 's in divx codec work?
[09:26] <cute_bettong> oh ok
[09:26] <cute_bettong> i have never tryed
[09:26] <zeus1_> anyone kno how to install .deb files on ubuntu
[09:26] <cute_bettong> so i don't know
[09:26] <cute_bettong> but the file is marked by ubuntu as .avi
[09:26] <timtux> Does anyone know atleast if breezy gonna be released in what part of september?
[09:26] <cute_bettong> and i have the codecs
[09:26] <rata_> EasterSunshine, thanks, but it doesn't work like that
[09:26] <rata_> it is a python's program
[09:27] <zetor> zeus1: dpkg -i "file name"
[09:27] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[09:28] <cute_bettong> hmm how do i get the font's for mplayer
[09:28] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: you don't need to download the debs yourself, apt will solve the dependencies and install fluxbox for you
[09:28] <cute_bettong> i'm thinking that that could be the problem
[09:28] <Viziri> anyone???  - when i type "java -version" i get "java version "1.4.2" - so i know java is installed. But it isn't working in firefox, which is the main thing... anyone who can help???
[09:28] <carthik> cute_bettong, mplayer-fonts
[09:29] <zeus1_> ight east
[09:29] <zeus1_> i will try that
[09:29] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: it'll download a lot of stuff, hope you have a highspeed internet
[09:29] <zeus1_> "Package fluxbox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:29] <zeus1_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:29] <zeus1_> is only available from another source
[09:29] <zeus1_> E: Package fluxbox has no installation candidate
[09:29] <zeus1_> "
[09:29] <Seveas> zeus1_, don't paste !!!
[09:29] <zeus1_> oh
[09:29] <zeus1_> sry
[09:30] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: you need to update your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:30] <Mez> firefox seems so weird witht eh right fonty sizes
[09:30] <zeus1_> how do u do that
[09:30] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell zeus1_ about repos
[09:30] <dalamar> anyone running an ipod shuffle under hoary?
[09:30] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: follow ubotu's directions, and when you have your sources.list filled in, try `sudo apt-get install fluxbox` again
[09:31] <zeus1_> i will
[09:31] <zeus1_> thanks
[09:31] <auTONYmous> anybody here using XFCE?
[09:31] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell zeus1_ about paste
[09:32] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: and if you ever need to paste again, use that link ubotu gave you
[09:32] <spstarr> ubotu, bot snack
[09:32] <ubotu> :)
[09:32] <dwerf> what does "simply extract the source and type 'make'" mean?
[09:32] <spstarr> =)
[09:33] <black_13> i was black13 now im black_13
[09:33] <auTONYmous> I have a question about the menu editor in XFCE, if anyone can help
[09:33] <reiki> oooo... I think I just found something I can't do in Ubuntu... can't seem to find setting for my Epson R200 printer to print directly on CDs. Supposedly there's a driver out there that has this AND the ink level monitor in it...
[09:33] <black_13> what is sysfs?
[09:33] <spstarr> purge complete, reboot
[09:34] <spstarr> weeeeeeeeee
[09:34] <GlenC> can anyone suggest a way to make this old box serve files faster?
[09:35] <auTONYmous> new hard drive/drive controller?
[09:35] <GlenC> I might as well just buy a new computer then
[09:35] <ompaul> GlenC, knock down any services that do not need to be on including X
[09:35] <GlenC> will that help serve files faster?
[09:36] <GlenC> because I'm trying to stream a movie and it's pretty choppy
[09:36] <auTONYmous> it'll free ram and resources...couldn't hurt
[09:36] <GlenC> it's over my lan, too
[09:36] <GoClick> Is there an iptables gui?
[09:36] <liquidfire> how can i enable the 3ddesktop :P?
[09:36] <supergeek> Anyone able to give me some help with getting my wintv-go to work? I get sound, from a single channel, but no video.
[09:36] <liquidfire> i installed it
[09:36] <auTONYmous> so nobody here is good with XFCE?
[09:36] <damsko> !ping
[09:36] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, damsko.
[09:37] <GlenC> !ping
[09:37] <benji86> Hi, I just upgraded to Breezy, and I'm now having a problem with loading the nvidia kernel module.
[09:37] <auTONYmous> I'm wondering about that Breezy upgrade too...is it ready for prime time yet?
[09:37] <durt> and whats the problem?
[09:38] <ompaul> GoClick, there is a thing called gnome-lokkit
[09:38] <Seveas> auTONYmous, no
[09:38] <durt> breezy works for me
[09:38] <benji86> hmm
[09:38] <benji86> one sec :)
[09:38] <cute_bettong> hmm i even copyd the .avi file to my hard drive and it still won't play
[09:38] <dwerf> what does "simply extract the source and type 'make'" mean?
[09:38] <auTONYmous> okay...I was thinking of upgrading my old Pentium web server so I can do PHP5...
[09:39] <cute_bettong> i wonder if it could be the memory ishhue that i was talking about
[09:39] <spackes1> durt: south park?
[09:39] <GlenC> so no one can think of a way to get better speeds from this box?
[09:40] <benji86> where should my nvidia.ko be located at?
[09:40] <durt> spackes1: colorado
[09:41] <dwerf> what does "simply extract the source and type 'make'" mean?
[09:41] <spackes1> durt: close, utah
[09:41] <benji86> brb in about 2 mins :)
[09:41] <auTONYmous> GlenC: kill any unnecessary process (free up CPU cycles), get a 10/100 "switch" (not a "hub"... big difference), try using a different file access method (do you HAVE to use SMB?)
[09:41] <damsko> benji86, whereis nvidia.ko
[09:41] <GlenC> thanks auTONYmous, but how can I not use smb?
[09:42] <GlenC> and how do I kill/find processes?
[09:42] <auTONYmous> all the other boxes Windblows, huh?
[09:42] <GlenC> yup
[09:42] <GlenC> and linux isn't an option
[09:42] <slashzero> hey
[09:42] <slashzero> has anyone manage to do anything cool with linux and their bluetooth phone?
[09:42] <auTONYmous> you're stuck with it, so look at the server's processes first, then be sure the network is optimized (the "switch" I referred to a minute ago will help GREATLY)
[09:43] <durt> dwerf: that means youre compiling something
[09:44] <GlenC> what is the switch?
[09:44] <benji86> okay, after a few apt-get removes and installs of nvidia stuff...
[09:44] <auTONYmous> glenc: it's the central network device that ALL your other PC's are plugged into to create the "network"
[09:44] <benji86> it's trying to load the module from /lib/modules/2.6.12-7/volatile/nvidia.ko
[09:44] <benji86> it can't find it now heh
[09:45] <benji86> well because it's not there
[09:45] <mebaran151> anyone here know how to connect an xul app to a database
[09:45] <mebaran151> or where I could ask about such a thing
[09:45] <holycow> mebaran151, wrong channel
[09:45] <mebaran151> I am pretty sure javascript would be nasty nasty nasty to do it in
[09:45] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:45] <auTONYmous> glenc: if you have a "hub" now, all your pc's are sharing the total network speed...
[09:45] <mebaran151> trying to find the right one
[09:45] <holycow> mebaran151, there are books on xul programming
[09:45] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:45] <GlenC> auTONYmous, pm?
[09:45] <durt> benji86: are you using "modprobe nvidia"?
[09:45] <mebaran151> but I would like to quickly mock up something to see if it is the right technology
[09:46] <auTONYmous> glenc: replace the "hub" with a "switch" andy you'll get the full network speed to EACH PC and server
[09:46] <mebaran151> my other idea would be python/ruby/glade
[09:46] <neighborlee> forums ic are still messed up for posting...is this being worked on ??
[09:46] <benji86> durt: Yeah.  Okay the module is there now.  Forgot to install linux-restricted-modules stuff
[09:46] <durt> ok
[09:47] <tristanmike> hi?
[09:47] <zeus1_> OK so i have the package installed
[09:47] <zeus1_> for f box
[09:47] <zeus1_> now how do i replace gnome
[09:47] <zeus1_> w/ it
[09:47] <holycow> your probably going to get the most bang for your buck with py and pywx for a cross platform project in terms of speed from what i've seen
[09:47] <wozabuntu_> hi everyone. just downloaded hoary and installed it. but some packages are broken. anyone had the same experience?
[09:47] <holycow> xul is nice but doing the coding in javascript seems wrong to me
[09:49] <dwerf> is it possible to start a smaller text-based version from the grub command line?
[09:49] <haakonn> is it possible to run update-manager in kde, have it start automatically, and have the icon appear in the system tray as it does in gnome?
[09:49] <dwerf> is it possible to start a smaller text-based version of linux from the grub command line?
[09:49] <holycow> what dwerf?
[09:49] <holycow> well this is debian, you can pretty much rip out anything you want with a few commands
[09:49] <Gnonthgol> dwerf: The recovery mode dont start gui
[09:50] <benji86> durt: Okay, now I can't find nvidia.ko...lol
[09:50] <holycow> there are various distros that cater to that, damn small linux runs on a floppy or two if you want
[09:50] <dwerf> holycow, how do i start a session without graphical interface?
[09:50] <holycow> you can always roll your own
[09:50] <[t0rc] > I'm searching for an online repository for Ubuntu packages (so I can install apps to a pc that isn't networked (online))
[09:50] <benji86> I have nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel, and linux-restricted-module stuff
[09:50] <benji86> installed
[09:50] <benji86> er nvidia-kernel-common
[09:50] <holycow> dwerf, delete gdm from /etc/init.d dir
[09:50] <ShakeZula> Hiall
[09:50] <holycow> thats the fastest way, you can subsequently remove all of gnome and x if you want
[09:51] <ShakeZula> How can one log into root through a console session on the desktop?
[09:51] <Gnonthgol> or you can install the server version
[09:51] <carthik> ShakeZula, there is no "root" account
[09:51] <icaros> anyone have sound issues with doom3?
[09:52] <carthik> ShakeZula, you can do a sudo -s -H though
[09:52] <Gnonthgol> ShakeZula: try Ctrl + Alt+ F1-F7
[09:52] <benji86> Okay, my new problem.  I installed all of the nvidia packages and now I can't find nvidia.ko :)
[09:53] <durt> benji86: did you run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"?
[09:53] <ShakeZula> Here's the problem, then.  I'm trying to move an item from the desktop to /usr/games, and its saying I don't have permissions
[09:53] <durt> "locate nvidia.ko"
[09:53] <holycow> whats the command to make your self invisible to the spam bots again?  /something +AE?
[09:53] <zeus1_> I have no sound in ubuntu how do i fic
[09:53] <zeus1_> fix*
[09:53] <GlenC> ce
[09:54] <GlenC> /mode +CE
[09:54] <benji86> durt: I did now
[09:54] <holycow> thanks
[09:54] <benji86> it's only finding nvidia.ko in my /lib/modules/linux-2.6.10
[09:54] <icaros> anyone know when search will work again on ubuntuforums?
[09:54] <benji86> but not 6.12
[09:54] <Gnonthgol> Same problem as zeus1 help!!
[09:54] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC\'97 Audi o Controller
[09:54] <Baskerville> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[09:55] <durt> zeus1_: try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or "alsaconf"
[09:55] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you sudo modprobe snd_atiixp ?
[09:55] <crimsun> zeus1_: please rephrase the question intelligently: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:55] <spackes1> dumb question, but how I get /etc/mdadm.conf to get noticed at boot?
[09:55] <Baskerville> I did know
[09:56] <durt> btw, breezy seems to be easier to get sound working in
[09:56] <crimsun> "know"?
[09:56] <Baskerville> yes
[09:56] <Baskerville> Still no sound
[09:56] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you unmute the necessary mixer elements (Master, PCM, ...)?
[09:56] <Baskerville> how?
[09:56] <durt> alsamixer
[09:56] <crimsun> use the Volume Control, for instance
[09:56] <Baskerville> I can't
[09:57] <Baskerville> It says
[09:57] <Gnonthgol> Baskerville: what sound card?
[09:57] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC\'97 Audi o Controller
[09:57] <ShakeZula> What is the path to the gnome desktop?
[09:57] <carthik> Shakezula, if you are doing it thru the terminal, then type a "sudo" before the mv or cp ommand
[09:57] <crimsun> Baskerville: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:57] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC\'97 Audi o Controller
[09:57] <Baskerville> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[09:58] <Baskerville> 1 [Modem          ] : ATIIXP-MODEM - ATI IXP Modem
[09:58] <Baskerville>                      ATI IXP Modem rev 1 at 0xf0000500, irq 17
[09:58] <Baskerville> it came this
[09:58] <Baskerville> only the modem part
[09:58] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you compile the atixxp module?
[09:58] <Baskerville> how?
[09:59] <crimsun> Baskerville: I TOLD you to compile atiixp
[09:59] <benji86> durt: Still not finding an nvidia.ko after installing the packages.
[09:59] <crimsun> Baskerville: during those instructions that you copied and pasted, there was a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source step
[09:59] <Baskerville> yes, but came an error
[09:59] <Baskerville> wait
[09:59] <damsko> benji86 , whereis nvidia.ko
[09:59] <ompaul> Baskerville, pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl is useful when you have lots of data  you get a url that you can paste in here and its only one line
[09:59] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you select the 'all' or the 'atiixp' (NOT 'atiixpm') driver?
[10:00] <benji86> damsko: after 'find / -name nvidia.ko -print' ...
[10:00] <benji86> no where
[10:01] <Baskerville> crimsun, the error was:
[10:01] <zeus1_> i still aint nooo sound
[10:01] <durt> you might have to reinstall stuff benji86 - i dont know
[10:01] <benji86> I did :-/
[10:01] <crimsun> zeus1_: you haven't said anything useful
[10:01] <damsko> benji86: should be in /usr/lib/nvidia
[10:01] <crimsun> zeus1_: please actually describe your hardware
[10:01] <anthony__> is there a way to get openbox from apt in ubuntu?
[10:01] <Baskerville> aalsa.driver.tar.bz2: Archive not found
[10:01] <Baskerville> crimsun, the error was:
[10:01] <Baskerville> aalsa.driver.tar.bz2: Archive not found
[10:02] <crimsun> Baskerville: yes, I see - please don't repeat.
[10:02] <Baskerville> Sorry
[10:02] <benji86> to upgrade from hoary to breezy...i just changed hoary to breezy in my sources.list and did apt-get update, then dist-upgrade, then upgrade
[10:02] <benji86> that should be fine, right?
[10:02] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you follow the instructions EXACTLY?
[10:02] <Baskerville> yes
[10:02] <benji86> I have stuff in /usr/lib/nvidia, just no module
[10:02] <crimsun> zeus1_: do not dcc chat me. Address your questions to me publicly.
[10:02] <zeus1_> k
[10:02] <zeus1_> h/o let me check some things 1st b4 i talk 2 u
[10:03] <anthony__> is there a way to get openbox from apt in ubuntu?
[10:03] <ompaul> anthony__, sudo apt-get install openbox
[10:04] <crimsun> Baskerville: no, you didn't
[10:04] <anthony__> and there is no package it sees
[10:04] <crimsun> Baskerville: you would not have gotten such an error
[10:04] <crimsun> anthony__: enable universe
[10:04] <anthony__> how do i do that?
[10:04] <ompaul> !tell anthony__ about repos
[10:04] <crimsun> anthony__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:05] <anthony__> ok. i'll check that out
[10:05] <Baskerville> the sound driver should be on /dev, right=
[10:05] <Baskerville> the sound driver should be on /dev, right?
[10:06] <crimsun> Baskerville: ok, let's start over.
[10:06] <Baskerville> Thanks!
[10:06] <crimsun> Baskerville: dpkg -l alsa-source build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii
[10:06] <zeus1_> its not letting me edit esd.conf
[10:06] <zeus1_> its read onyl can I change that
[10:06] <anthony__> for some reason that website won't work for me, crimsun
[10:06] <crimsun> anthony__: works fine here.
[10:07] <crimsun> zeus1_: is your sound chipset actually detected?
[10:07] <anthony__> this is.. odd.. it just sits there at connected to wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:07] <benji86> hmm
[10:07] <zeus1_> idk...what was the command again to detect system hardware plz
[10:07] <crimsun> it's probably pulling down the certificate info
[10:07] <benji86> I have nvidia-agp.ko
[10:07] <Baskerville> ii  alsa-source    1.0.8-4ubuntu4 ALSA driver sources
[10:07] <Baskerville> ii  build-essentia 10.1ubuntu1    informational list of build-essential packag
[10:07] <Baskerville> ii  linux-headers- 2.6.10-34.4    Linux kernel headers 2.6.10 on 386
[10:07] <durt> lspci
[10:07] <crimsun> zeus1_: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[10:08] <zeus1_> thx
[10:08] <JBLoudG20> any ideas why the sound trials the video in Xine when im watching a dvd that is ripped on to my hard drive in vob format?
[10:08] <crimsun> Baskerville: ok, now cd /usr/src
[10:08] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: are you using esd?
[10:08] <Baskerville> done
[10:08] <JBLoudG20> let me check, because I believe so
[10:08] <crimsun> Baskerville: ls *.tar.bz2
[10:08] <Baskerville> alsa-driver.tar.bz2
[10:08] <benji86> Also, when I startx I get an error when it tries to load the "keyboard" module
[10:08] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, what should I be running?
[10:08] <zeus1_> crimsun it detected nvidia nforce multimedia audio and nvidia nforce2 ac97 audio controler
[10:09] <benji86> saying module does not exist
[10:09] <eamonn> JBLoudG20, I've not had good luck with Xine. My DVD player of choice is VLC.
[10:09] <anthony__> hmm firefox just locked up. i killed it and tried again, works now
[10:09] <durt> use opera
[10:09] <netdur> poeple, the kernel in breezy doesn't load speedtch model, so I can't get online... what to do?
[10:10] <Baskerville> done
[10:10] <spackes1> sorry to ask again, but anyone know how I get /etc/mdadm.conf to get noticed at boot?
[10:11] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: some people have much better luck wrt a/v sync when they configure their installation to use ALSA directly
[10:11] <benji86> Can you see if you have the nvidia or nvidia_agp module loaded...whoever is running breezy with nvidia drivers :)
[10:11] <crimsun> zeus1_: lsmod|grep ^snd_intel8x0
[10:11] <benji86> it loaded the nvidia_agp module fine
[10:11] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, ive tried that, but I cannot get it to work properly
[10:11] <Baskerville> alsa-driver.tar.bz2
[10:11] <benji86> i just don't have an "nvidia" module
[10:13] <Doonz> .3333333333
[10:13] <Baskerville> it came:
[10:13] <Baskerville> alsa-driver.tar.bz2
[10:13] <Gnonthgol> I am having problem with flash (font problem?)
[10:13] <JBLoudG20> also another question, how do I set up the extra keys on my keyboard to skip tracks in amaroK ( use KDE)
[10:13] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: what did you do?
[10:14] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, I ran through a bunch of steps that another person tried to help me with, I really dont remember them... if you have any advise im open to it
[10:14] <Baskerville> Sorry, Crimsun; what's my next step?
[10:14] <Baskerville> Thanks
[10:15] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink
[10:15] <crimsun> Baskerville: sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2
[10:15] <Baskerville> done
[10:16] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, ill try that to see if it syncs for me
[10:16] <Baskerville> Crimsun, I did it; no message appeared
[10:17] <crimsun> Baskerville: good. Now sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[10:17] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: you haven't changed anything yet
[10:17] <DonR> ng to install Ubuntu on a "old" HP machine that has a n AMD Athlon 1400 .
[10:18] <Baskerville> Do I select all drivers?
[10:18] <DonR> trying to install Ubuntu on a "old" HP machine that has a n AMD Athlon 1400 .
[10:18] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, no im finishing a few things, i have to log out to go into gnome
[10:18] <xulMunkee> !gnome
[10:18] <ubotu> methinks gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[10:18] <crimsun> Baskerville: to save time, only select atiixp
[10:19] <xulMunkee> !mozilla
[10:19] <ubotu> xulMunkee: Are you smoking crack?
[10:19] <xulMunkee> !iiimf
[10:19] <ubotu> xulMunkee: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:19] <DonR> I think I'm having trouble with disk petitioner
[10:19] <Baskerville> I see this:
[10:19] <Baskerville> * ]  todos
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  dummy (/dev/null card)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  seq-dummy (dummy MIDI-through client)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  virmidi (virtual MIDI card)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  loopback (loopback card)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  ad1816a (ISA: Analog Devices SoundPort AD 1815|1816A chips)
[10:19] <reiki> how do I make <user1> a member of <this_group>?  I want user1 to be a member of more than one group (they are already a member of group=user1)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  ad1848 (ISA: Analog Devices AD 1847|1848 / Cirrus Logic CS 4248 chips)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  ali5451 (PCI: AC97 on motherboards with ALi M5451 Audio Controller)
[10:20] <Baskerville> The first one means "All" in portuguese
[10:20] <Gnonthgol> I am having problem with flash, No text apears in an application exept for one message in an other font, can anyone tell me what fonts I need?
[10:21] <DonR> I guess this isn't the place to get "install" help ??
[10:21] <Baskerville> ok, I saw the atiixp
[10:22] <Seveas> Baskerville, goddamnit
[10:22] <Seveas> don't paste in here
[10:22] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, when i change the sink to alsa, it wont output sound at all
[10:22] <anatole> re
[10:22] <anatole> this is funny
[10:22] <Baskerville> done
[10:23] <anatole> when i connect, server drops me into #ubuntu-unregged
[10:23] <anatole> then i can join #ubuntu manually with no problem
[10:23] <carthik> reiki adduser <username> <groupname> ?
[10:23] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: no, use custom sink, and enter alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[10:23] <carthik> reiki read man adduser
[10:23] <reiki> ok thanks
[10:23] <carthik> reiki if you are not familiar with man, read man man first :)
[10:23] <Baskerville> i selected the one you told me (atiixp)
[10:24] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, WIERD.... the sound is fine in gnome
[10:24] <reiki> carthik: hahah... man man.... no... this adduser is for existing users as well? I used it in the old days to cline a new user, but don't recall using it on an existing user.... looking
[10:25] <carthik> reiki adduser user group will add an existing user to an existing group, without any options :)
[10:25] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: ok, and you're using totem-xine?
[10:25] <carthik> reiki, sorry if i sounded too.. er... patronizing earlier... :)
[10:25] <reiki> Seems in Ubuntu's user and group management... you can only set a user's default group. I want to add user1 to the group called lp
[10:25] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, im using xine... i just apt-get'ed it
[10:25] <crimsun> reiki: sudo adduser user1 lp
[10:26] <JBLoudG20> apt-got it
[10:26] <JBLoudG20> lol
[10:26] <Baskerville> done
[10:26] <reiki> carthik: no problem... I am not real good at this even though I've done it many different ways over the last 40 years or so :)
[10:27] <carthik> :O - that is longer than i have been alive! ;)
[10:27] <Baskerville> crimsun, what's my next stpe? (sorry)
[10:27] <chi> im having problems with bchunk. im trying to use it to convert a .bin & .cue to an .iso but it always makes two .iso files whats the deal?
[10:27] <zenlunatic> sometimes my machine shuts down for no reason
[10:27] <reiki> carthik: well... I got killed in 2001... so maybe I start over and I'm only 4 years old now instead of 52. :)
[10:28] <hunger> Anyone got the new ATI drivers running in breezy?
[10:28] <carthik> reiki, oh yeah...
[10:28] <fanopnaic> http://phpfi.com/75967     having ext3 problems with breezy. any ideas?
[10:29] <GoClick> How do I change the 'hostname' the my machine, I named it durring install but I don't want that name anymore
[10:29] <sproingie> fanopnaic: try removing the journal and recreating it.  tunefs oughta do it
[10:29] <fanopnaic> GoClick: echo "bla" > /etc/hostname
[10:29] <sproingie> fanopnaic: make sure you're not out of space
[10:29] <reiki> groups yardbird
[10:29] <reiki> damnit
[10:30] <Baskerville> Crimsun, is there anymore steps I should follow?
[10:30] <fanopnaic> sproingie: 10-4, will do.
[10:31] <Baskerville> Crimsun, is there anymore steps I should follow?
[10:31] <GoClick> Thank you fanopnaic
[10:33] <Baskerville> crimsun, what's my next step? (sorry)
[10:34] <GoClick> How do I get smbd to reload it's config?
[10:36] <twosharp> Seveas, could I please download the adobereader and sun-jre from your repository?
[10:36] <benji86> I'm stumped on how to get the nvidia module
[10:36] <benji86> after isntalling everything that is needed...I still don't have a nvidia.ko
[10:36] <Baskerville> Crimsun, is there any more move?
[10:36] <Baskerville> Crimsun, is there any more move?
[10:36] <GoClick> twosharp you have a private message
[10:36] <reiki> woot!  ok... now I can monitor ink levels in my epson R200... now to figure out how to get it to print directly on CDs... teh current driver doesn't have the settings for this
[10:37] <Seveas> twosharp, msg me a username and password
[10:37] <fanopnaic> GoClick: dunno if smbd supports "/etc/init.d/samba reload", but this will definitely work: "/etc/init.d/samba restart"
[10:37] <paulproteus> reiki: Ooh, how'd you pull off ink monitoring?
[10:37] <dalamar> whee, got my ipod shuffle to work under ubuntu ;)
[10:37] <GoClick> k
[10:38] <reiki> paulproteus: I installed mtink and fixed a couple permissions. mtink can do alignment, nozzle cleaning, ink level monitoring
[10:38] <paulproteus> reiki: Thanks!  /me googles the thing
[10:38] <reiki> paulproteus: you can get it through synaptic... it's a package already
[10:39] <paulproteus> reiki: I don't have an inkjet, but many friends do, so I'm just Googling to find out more info, not to download it.
[10:39] <reiki> ahhh
[10:40] <Gnonthgol> Anyone know where the kernel sources are?
[10:41] <__filip_> how can i unrar .rar in ubuntu?
[10:41] <JBLoudG20> how do I turn off the gnome sounds?
[10:42] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, apt-get install kernel-source
[10:42] <fanopnaic> __filip_: install the rar package, then type "rar x archive.rar"
[10:42] <Gnonthgol> System>user*>sound freely translated
[10:42] <fanopnaic> or use file-roller or something
[10:42] <melodie> JBLoudG20, System/Preferences/sound
[10:43] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, I meant: sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[10:43] <indigirl1> anyone using gmailfs with success?
[10:43] <JBLoudG20> melodie, thanks
[10:44] <melodie> JBLoudG20, welcome ;)
[10:45] <Gnonthgol> eamonn: not in 5.04
[10:46] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, hmm... that's what I have, and I just tried it to make sure. It's downloading and installing. It's at 8% now.
[10:46] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, have you tried Synaptic?
[10:46] <Gnonthgol> eamon: Yes
[10:46] <indigirl1> is a detached screen session supposed to outlast a reboot?
[10:46] <wolverian> indigirl1, not if screen is running on the computer that reboots
[10:46] <JDahl> indigirl1, no
[10:47] <__filip_> what is the command to renamn an file?
[10:47] <indigirl1> wolverian: guess the programs close, not much screen can do
[10:47] <Gnonthgol> eamon: strange, I tryes apt-get and now I am installing
[10:47] <indigirl1> __filip_: mv
[10:47] <wolverian> indigirl1, screen itself closes as well. :)
[10:48] <wolverian> (unless it's not running on that computer, of course. but then the ssh sessions inside it will be disconnected.)
[10:48] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, check that you have a deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, it'll probably be there but commented out, maybe.
[10:49] <indigirl1> why does wine get all the attention and bochs gets none?
[10:50] <JDahl> wolverian, you can still start a screen session remotely via ssh, and close your local terminal or even reboot, but maybe that's no what you mean?
[10:50] <wolverian> JDahl, right, no. I was just specifying that. with too much detail that I think confused everyone.
[10:50] <wolverian> sorry. :)
[10:51] <indigirl1> i split a sreen window but was unable to determine just how to use the other side. help please
[10:54] <indigirl1> sreen = screen
[10:54] <fanopnaic> indigirl1: wine and bochs and fundamentally different.
[10:55] <fanopnaic> ad screen: try C-a C-n
[10:55] <Gnonthgol> Installing kernel-sources did not help me. I am trying to install alsa-drivers and it cant find my kernel sources
[10:57] <indigirl1> fanopnaic: split with Ctrl-A S. C-A C-N is for other windows but not split windows. it doesn't work
[10:57] <indigirl1> Gnonthgol: kernel-headers perhaps
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> Package kernel-headers is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> is only available from another source
[10:59] <fanopnaic> C-a TAB then
[11:00] <fanopnaic> works for me :)
[11:03] <boze> hello all
[11:03] <durt> hello boze
[11:04] <boze> can anyone tell me how to login as root? I am trying to install nvidia drivers that will not install in X, and only install as root. This sudo is crap
[11:04] <durt> boot up in recovery mode
[11:05] <boze> rthanks durt, but how do I do that?
[11:06] <durt> boze, when you start your computer, hit esc when it says grub, and select recovery mode
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> checking for directory with kernel source... /usr/src/linux
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> checking for directory with kernel build...
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[11:06] <boze> ok durt, I will. And thanks so much for the help
[11:06] <spackes1> so booting off scsi isn't so hot I am guessing?
[11:06] <xulMunkee> does xchat use up lots of network bandwidth if i leave it on at night?
[11:07] <usrx> not if you're just idle in a chan
[11:07] <JBLoudG20> in gnome, how do I keep hide icons from displaying on the desktop (CD/ usb thumb drive for example)?
[11:08] <klumo> Hi all ! I just installed FLUXBOX , but my resolution sux-a-lot ... How to change it under fluxbox ? :\
[11:09] <usrx> gnon: what's in /etc/src/?
[11:10] <Seveas> Gnonthgol, NEVER paste in here
[11:10] <klumo> got same thing with resolution in Openbox
[11:11] <Gnonthgol> ok
[11:12] <Malin> can nano be enchanced with some kind of syntax highlighting?
[11:12] <Seveas> no
[11:12] <Malin> :/
[11:13] <crimsun> Malin: it's built-in, you just have to enable it
[11:14] <ryguy1233> hi, i have a question about  the ultimate boot cd and using it to get rid of  the GRUB loader...
[11:14] <crimsun> Malin: it depends on newer versions of nano, though
[11:14] <crimsun> Malin: see Google results
[11:15] <ryguy1233> does anyone know about removing the grub loader?
[11:17] <user1> anyone: I'm having a problem with x11 display when I type xclock I get the error
[11:17] <user1> Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
[11:17] <hunger> Anyone got the new ATI drivers (8.16.20) running in breezy?
[11:17] <hunger> all of X was moved around... this somewhat complicates the issue of installing the beast.
[11:18] <user1> I tried xhost +
[11:18] <ryguy1233> does anyone know about removing the grub loader?
[11:19] <Gnonthgol> ryguy: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-faq.en.html#q12
[11:20] <Gnonthgol> all: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[11:20] <ryguy1233> thank you
[11:20] <mrdeath> ryguy1233: can you boot dos from floppy?
[11:21] <ryguy1233> i tried that using the win 98 boot disk but i got the error invalid system disk
[11:22] <ryguy1233> then someone recommended that i use the ultimate boot cd (.com) and that wasnt being recognized becuase it was a .exe file on a cd ( i think)
[11:22] <Madeye> Gnonthgol, Google is sick these days http://easyhttp.com/jad/Google-schizophrenia
[11:22] <mrdeath> ryguy1233: so, you can boot to win98?
[11:22] <ryguy1233> im on a windows xp media center but no i cannot boot to it
[11:22] <ryguy1233> i get error 22 from the GRUB
[11:24] <ryguy1233> i was looking for the iso image of the ultimate boot disk (because thats how i would get my computer to recognize it at the start up, right) but i could not find it
[11:24] <mrdeath> ryguy1233: do you have a floppy drive?
[11:24] <ryguy1233> yes
[11:25] <ryguy1233> i tried both win98 and win98 SE boot disks courtesy of bootdisk.com and got invlid system disk (if that helps)
[11:26] <mrdeath> ryguy1233: you need to make a bootable dos diskete and boot with it
[11:28] <ryguy1233> ok, im running linspire live cd (becuase i coudnt get on an operating system otherwisE)
[11:28] <ryguy1233> would i just need to put the boot program onto a floppy or do i need to do something with it
[11:29] <ryguy1233> (i see a program called Floppy Formatter on linspire)
[11:31] <Mithsir> Hi! How do I make GIMP apear in german?
[11:31] <mpm2> I've followed a few howtos for setting up nfs (between to hoary systems) but keep getting "mount:RPC: Program not registered" error message, and am not having luck googling that error.. anyone know what's the minimum I need to get NFS working?
[11:32] <Napalmz> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:32] <Napalmz> how to fix error like this?
[11:32] <Napalmz> everytime i do APT-GET i get this
[11:33] <popey> Napalmz: are you using sudo?
[11:34] <topyli> Napalmz: do you have synaptic or aptitude running at the same time?
[11:34] <Napalmz> nmo
[11:34] <Napalmz> im root
[11:35] <Napalmz> and not using aptituder
[11:35] <nubbe> ryguy1233, Have u tried madboot?
[11:35] <ryguy1233> no
[11:35] <ryguy1233> should i google it?
[11:35] <nubbe> ryguy1233, http://www.madboot.com/
[11:36] <ryguy1233> alright, thanks and what will this do
[11:36] <nubbe> ryguy1233, or ultimatebootcd
[11:36] <ryguy1233> is there fdisk on it?
[11:36] <nubbe> I thought on ultimatebootcd, yes
[11:37] <ryguy1233> i have tried ultimate boot cd but the comp wouldnt recognize it on the start up
[11:37] <ryguy1233> do you know why that would be?
[11:37] <nubbe> ryguy1233, then try madboot floppy and see if u can access ultimatebootcd
[11:37] <ryguy1233> ok, thank you i have to go now
[11:37] <walde> ryguy1233, Do I understant right (Just come in) you dont get rid of grub?
[11:38] <ryguy1233> i hope it works nad i will be back
[11:38] <nubbe> I had a corrupted bios and ultimatebootcd didn't work, but madboot booted and let me use the cd
[11:39] <walde> weired :-)
[11:41] <nalioth> ryguy1233: the ubcd didnt work?
[11:42] <dylanrogers> anybody know how i can get Sound Juicer to rip CDs faster?  I already have cdrdao but nothing.
[11:42] <Seveas> dylanrogers, enable dma
[11:42] <Seveas> !dma
[11:42] <Seveas> !tell dylanrogers about dma
[11:43] <dylanrogers> is there a package that enables it?
[11:43] <Gnonthgol> !ubotu
[11:43] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:44] <dylanrogers> ubota is a great invention
[11:44] <dylanrogers> ubotu i mean
[11:44] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, dylanrogers
[11:46] <slowtek> Greetings :)
[11:46] <slowtek> Can any one tell me why ubuntu will not let me access shared memory ?
[11:47] <slowtek> root@Guadain:~ # synclient -l
[11:47] <slowtek> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[11:48] <slowtek> Is this some sort of security feature of ubuntu ?
[11:48] <slowtek> All I want to do is turn off the touch click feature of my synaptics touch pa
[11:48] <kentaur>  /join #ubuntu-devel
[11:48] <slowtek> er pa=pad;
[11:48] <crimsun> can't you just use gksudo?
[11:48] <slowtek> gksudu
[11:48] <slowtek> ?
[11:48] <crimsun> no, gksudo
[11:49] <__filip_> how does i make users in proftpd ?
[11:49] <slowtek> never heard of it
[11:49] <slowtek> im raw root right now and it aint working
[11:49] <slowtek> :P
[11:49] <crimsun> slowtek: then don't use raw root.
[11:50] <Pickle_Weasel> i am getting an error "no screens found" on bootup and X doesn't start
[11:50] <crimsun> slowtek: gksudo synclient -l
[11:50] <slowtek> well raw root should over ride anything
[11:50] <slowtek> Its ROOT
[11:50] <mititelu`> hello, how can i "mount --Bind" at startup
[11:50] <slowtek> :)
[11:50] <slowtek> ok il ltry gksudo
[11:50] <mititelu`> on a script or something
[11:50] <Pickle_Weasel> how would i configure X server?
[11:50] <slowtek> Pickle_Weasel dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[11:51] <Thrica> Any reason I would use Ubuntu over OS X that isn't purely philanthropic?
[11:51] <dylanrogers> after enabling dma, must i log off/reboot, etc?
[11:51] <durt> xorg probably not xfree86
[11:51] <mititelu`> how can i  make "mount --bind /dir /dir" at startup autmaticly?
[11:51] <nubbe> __filip_, There is a proftpd howto in ubuntuforums
[11:52] <ce33na> dylanrogers: how did you enable it?
[11:52] <dylanrogers> with the ubuntu wiki page
[11:52] <__filip_> nubbe: this http://ubuntuguide.org/#ftpserver ?
[11:52] <slowtek> ok I tired the gksudo
[11:52] <josh43> Quick question: Is it wise to install the .run drivers for ati/nvidia on a64?
[11:52] <slowtek> its just spews out the synclient -h options
[11:52] <ce33na> did you enter a command at the command line or did you make a config change? I havent read the wiki page
[11:53] <crimsun> slowtek: -h? Did you actually type -h instead of -l ?
[11:53] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: are you running hoary or breezy or warty?
[11:53] <dylanrogers> ce33na, i did both
[11:53] <mititelu`> how can i  make "mount --bind /dir /dir" at startup autmaticly? pls
[11:53] <Gnonthgol> mititelu: why not just mount it the corect plase the first time?
[11:53] <mititelu`> well
[11:53] <mititelu`> after restart
[11:53] <mititelu`> it's not there
[11:53] <slowtek> crimsun  nope
[11:53] <nubbe> __filip_, no in ubuntuforums.org
[11:53] <ce33na> dylanrogers: if you entered the hdparm command successfully, then you do not need to reboot
[11:53] <__filip_> okej
[11:53] <Pickle_Weasel> nalioth, hoary, sorry for the pause in my response
[11:54] <dylanrogers> ce33na, one last question:  is there a tool out there for linux that will convert mp3s to oggs?
[11:54] <crimsun> slowtek: what is synclient supposed to bring up, a window?
[11:54] <crimsun> slowtek: or is it cli?
[11:54] <nubbe> __filip_, it doesn't respond to me right now tho
[11:54] <slowtek> crimsun : also when I try to run gksudo syndaemon I also get  failed to acces shared memory
[11:54] <slowtek> cli
[11:54] <Gnonthgol> mititelu: change /etc/fstab to mount it corect
[11:54] <crimsun> slowtek: gksudo is only for graphical apps that require root access. In that case you just want sudo.
[11:54] <slowtek> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[11:54] <crimsun> sudo synclient -l
[11:54] <slowtek> k
[11:54] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: then at a terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and try the VESA driver
[11:55] <mititelu`> how can i add a bind there?, the filesystem yes, i got it in there, all i need is an automatic bind at startup
[11:55] <slowtek> crimsun : same error
[11:55] <ce33na> dylanrogers: yes. I did it in the reverse, so someone could use my ogg files. I do not remember what I used. I do remember checking out Audacity at that time so maybe that was it.
[11:55] <dylanrogers> ce33na, could you find out for me?  or does anybody else know?
[11:55] <crimsun> slowtek: df -h /dev/shm
[11:56] <slowtek> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[11:56] <slowtek> tmpfs                 110M     0  110M   0% /dev/shm
[11:56] <ilba7r> anyone have problems with gam_server where it increase the cpu load till the pc shutdown
[11:56] <ce33na> dylanrogers: a google search on ogg, mp3, and linux would tell you far more than I could
[11:56] <dylanrogers> ce33na, dma is not working
[11:56] <Gnonthgol> mititeiu: At boot all file systems in fstab is mounted, if you change where it is supose to mount you dont need to move it later
[11:56] <Pickle_Weasel> nalioth, i am trying to make nvidia drivers work right now, as it was looking for the onboard card and not the PCI card, i will try VESA if this fails
[11:56] <ce33na> then the command was not entered correctly
[11:56] <slowtek> crimsun: ya get that output ?
[11:57] <ce33na> let me check out the wiki
[11:57] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: you've disabled the onboard card in the bios?
[11:57] <mititelu`> ok... then how can i make linux run several commands at startup - start a program of mine or ...
[11:57] <crimsun> slowtek: please read the synclient readme
[11:57] <dylanrogers> ce33na, thanks
[11:57] <Pickle_Weasel> nalioth, not my PC, not sure, i'm guessing no, how would i do this?
[11:58] <slowtek> there isnt one
[11:58] <slowtek> crimsun : there is not one installed by unbuntu
[11:58] <ce33na> dylanrogers: it will take me a few minutes, my boy is playing online games...they are bandwidth hogs
[11:58] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: when the puter first starts up, hit "DEL" and you'll come to a bios screen
[11:59] <Pickle_Weasel> ok
[11:59] <crimsun> slowtek: look online
[11:59] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: find the onboard settings and disable the onboard video
[11:59] <slowtek> k
[11:59] <Pickle_Weasel> ok
[11:59] <josh43> where is my "Xwindow configuration file"?
[11:59] <Gnonthgol> mititeiu: all scripts in the dir. /etc/init.d is run at startup, it is used for starting daemons but you can altsoe run other programs at boot time, but make sure that the script get finishd or the bott prosess will stop
[11:59] <Pickle_Weasel> VESA drivers worked just now, howeer ^.^
[11:59] <Pickle_Weasel> however*
[11:59] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: yes, VESA will drive a tank