/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/09/02/#launchpad.txt

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Burgundaviaok, that is an odd error09:09
Burgundaviawhen I click on any page, it forces me to login again09:09
Burgundaviahmm, nev mind09:09
Virtuall:)09:28
lifelesslamont-away: pong09:29
lifelesskiko-zzz: pong09:29
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BjornTlifeless: pqm seems to have hung10:48
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robotgeekhi11:12
robotgeeklaunchpad says this bug "https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1138" is fixed, but maybe it's not?11:13
SteveAhow do you mean?11:32
SteveAdo you mean that someone has marked it as fixed, but it isn't really fixed?11:32
robotgeekSteveA: i get the same error, i filed a new bug. is that okay?11:32
SteveAor do you mean that no one has marked it as fixed, but launchpad is wrongly saying it is fixed11:32
robotgeekit says fixed11:32
SteveAi see that11:33
SteveAwhat i'm trying to find out is, are you saying that launchpad is working incorrectly?11:33
robotgeekno, i am saying that someone marked it as wrongly fixed11:33
SteveAor are you saying that the package in ubuntu Universe is still broken although it has been marked fixed11:33
SteveAokay11:33
robotgeekso, it was okay to file a new bug, right?11:34
SteveAi'm afraid the wrong people are on this channel to talk about that with you11:34
SteveAyou'll want to talk about it on #ubuntu-devel i think11:34
robotgeekSteveA: oh okay, sorry!11:34
SteveAno worries11:34
robotgeekSteveA: so u guys made launchpad :) cool11:34
SteveAyep, this is the channel for launchpad users and developers to talk about developing launchpad itself11:35
robotgeekSteveA: okay. me off to ubuntu-devel now. thanks, and sorry abt that!11:35
SteveAgood luck11:36
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SteveAhi james11:36
jameshhi11:36
SteveAdid you hear about the mess with the gettext validation checks?11:36
jameshno11:37
SteveAokay11:37
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SteveAwell, it turns out that the library you wrapped for use in python has these validation checks11:37
jameshyeah11:37
SteveAbut the program that creates .mo files has its very own validation checks11:37
SteveAand these are different11:38
jameshthey would be different versions of the same code11:38
SteveAthey do different things, anyway11:38
SteveAbecause this caused the langpack generation to fail11:38
SteveAuntil some fixing up of data had been done -- trailing whitespace checks iiuc11:38
SteveAi was wondering if you can look into the differences in what the mo generation program does, and what your library does11:39
SteveAand see if it is feasible to improve what is wrapped11:39
jameshthe pygettextpo code is using the gettext-0.14.2 code, because that was the first version of gettext that exposed the desired API11:39
SteveArather than us duplicate stuff in python11:39
SteveAcarlos and kiko know the full story 11:39
jameshthe copy of msgfmt would be from gettext-0.14.1 (what is packaged in hoary)11:40
jameshOnce breazy is rolled out onto the servers, I was planning on updating pygettextpo to not use its own copy of the code, and just dynamically link against the libgettextpo library11:40
jameshwhich would ensure that Rosetta's checks match the gettext command line utilities11:41
SteveAit seems there are still some checks missing from the library, though11:41
SteveAbut, that sounds like a good thing11:41
SteveAcan you mail the launchpad list saying what you're thinking of?11:41
SteveAthis will keep kiko and carlos in the loop11:41
SteveAunfortunately, this has been a big deal, as it has delayed the 1.0 launch of rosetta11:42
jameshone option would be to not perform the validity checks when producing .mo files, since the checks have theoretically been done already11:43
SteveAthat would also have produced poor quality langpacks in this case11:44
jameshactually, the trailing white space checks probably aren't handled by the check_format() method, since it just does format string checks11:45
jameshI'll see if I can find the where the whitespace check is done11:46
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cprovlifeless: ping, is PQM has hung again ? (or still being ...)08:06
kikoyeah, it's hung.09:03
kikojamesh, I think the whitespace check is done in msgfmt itself.09:04
cprovkiko: hi duderino09:17
kikohey man09:19
kikohow's england?09:19
cprovkiko: most of england saw til now is related to airport, train and debian UK life, prety good ;)09:22
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kikoheh09:39
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tvonIs Malone usable as a projects primary bug tracker or is it intended only for downstream use?11:49
kikotvon, it's designed for both, and we'd very much appreciate new upstreams using it11:53
tvonah, lovely11:53
kikotvon, if you have any questions or need help setting up, let me know11:54
tvonI just happen to be looking for a place to keep bugs11:54
tvonkiko: thanks11:54
kikoenjoy11:54

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