[06:31] <BenC> slomo?
[06:31] <fabbione> hey BenC
[06:31] <BenC> hey
[06:32] <BenC> did you see the bug where ppc is failing to boot because of unknown root block device (0,0)?
[06:32] <fabbione> BenC: expect a couple of updates soon for OCFS2 and RHCluster suite modules
[06:32] <BenC> well, my ppc is booting just fine, however, my i386 box is showing the same probelm
[06:32] <fabbione> i have no PPC :(
[06:32] <BenC> but I think it's initramfs related
[06:33] <fabbione> BenC: i guess that's because initramfs is missing modules
[06:33] <fabbione> but you can check that easily
[06:33] <BenC> I can see my ide is showing up
[06:33] <fabbione> compare the modules in the previous working initrd with the one included in the broken initramfs
[06:33] <BenC> thing is, I don't have a working one to go by
[06:34] <BenC> it never worked on this new box I installed
[06:34] <fabbione> you could try installing 2.6.10 from hoary
[06:34] <BenC> to tell the truth, this is a debian converted to ubuntu box :)
[06:34] <fabbione> to get an initrd
[06:34] <fabbione> and see if that one works :)
[06:34] <fabbione> hehehe
[06:34] <fabbione> yeah i am testing some debian -> ubuntu updates scenarios right now..
[06:34] <BenC> everything boots fine with my 2.4 kernel
[06:34] <BenC> and if I boot to single I can mount the root fs just fine
[06:35] <fabbione> hmmmm
[06:35] <fabbione> i wonder if that'a a hotplug/udev race in creating the devices before mounting root
[06:35] <fabbione> you can try this:
[06:35] <BenC> is there anything I would need installed that a simple dist-upgrade wouldn't pull in?
[06:35] <fabbione> edit /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions 
[06:36] <BenC> udev didn't get installed by default
[06:36] <fabbione> BenC: to be sure: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <fabbione> that will pull in everything
[06:36] <fabbione> at the of load_modules()
[06:36] <fabbione>         ide_boot_events
[06:36] <fabbione>         scsi_boot_events
[06:36] <fabbione> try to add a sleep 5
[06:36] <fabbione> to give time to the devices to settle
[06:37] <fabbione> and regenearte the initramfs
[06:37] <BenC> ok
[06:37] <fabbione> it's an attempt..
[06:37] <fabbione> i have seen some of these timing issues in non-common setups
[06:37] <fabbione> like /boot on hda
[06:37] <fabbione> and / on USB storage
[06:37] <BenC> 0 upgraded, 609 newly installed, 5 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[06:37] <fabbione> the latter takes eons to settle
[06:37] <fabbione> ehe not too bad :)
[06:38] <fabbione> time to upgrade? ;)
[06:38] <BenC> don't think I'll be installing ubuntu-desktop :)
[06:38] <fabbione> BenC: well you will need to at some point ;)
[06:38] <BenC> that's not an upgrade, that's all new :)
[06:38] <fabbione> yeah and that can include udev too :)
[06:38] <BenC> I installed udev by hand
[06:39] <fabbione> hotplug?
[06:40] <BenC> yeah
[06:40] <BenC> what about ubuntu-{base,minimal,standard}
[06:41] <BenC> which should I have for a non-X base system?
[06:41] <fabbione> they are a subset of ubuntu-desktop
[06:41] <fabbione> uh.. cant' remember
[06:41] <BenC> the names aren't very telling
[06:41] <BenC> base and minimal would seem to be the same thing
[06:41] <fabbione> Description: The Ubuntu standard system
[06:41] <fabbione>  This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu standard system.
[06:41] <fabbione>  This set of packages provides a comfortable text-only Unix-like
[06:41] <fabbione>  environment.
[06:42] <BenC> ok
[06:42] <BenC> -base is obsolete
[06:42] <fabbione> yeah
[06:42] <fabbione> i was checking now
[06:43] <BenC> ok, I'll install ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal
[06:43] <fabbione> the former will pull in the latter
[06:43] <fabbione> but i strongly suggest you to get a clean install too somewher
[06:43] <fabbione> +w
[06:43] <fabbione> +e
[06:54] <fabbione> AH COOL
[06:54] <fabbione> it seems they fixed the OCFS2 heartbeat problem...
[06:54] <fabbione> i will need to test it absolutely tomorrow
[06:54] <BenC> that require updating the kernel patch?
[06:54] <fabbione> BenC: yes, but i will do it for you
[06:54] <fabbione> dont' worry
[06:55] <fabbione> it's a few one liners here and there
[06:55] <fabbione> nothing too fancy
[06:55] <fabbione> but i need to test the fix first
[06:55] <fabbione> and today is sunday :)
[06:55] <fabbione> so it will be tomorrow as soon as i wake up
[06:56] <fabbione> when do you plan to upload the kernel?
[06:56] <BenC> was planning first thing in the morning, but it can wait
[06:56] <fabbione> BenC: hmm i guess it's still saturday there, isn't it?
[06:57] <BenC> sat night
[06:57] <BenC> oh, I mean first thing monday
[06:57] <fabbione> if so, remember that when you need to bump the ABI like this upload, you need to have at least elmo or mdz or kamion around
[06:57] <fabbione> otherwise the deb will not pass the NEW ;)
[06:57] <BenC> I'll email mdz and elmo tonight to let them know
[06:58] <fabbione> ok that's perfect
[06:58] <fabbione> keep Kamion in CC too.
[06:58] <fabbione> since he is the one that should do d-i
[06:58] <BenC> errors I get from the initramfs now are failure to mount "/root/dev on /dev/.static/dev"
[06:58] <fabbione> but given that he will be back tomorrow after 15 days of honeymoon, i doubt he will get to that :)
[06:58] <BenC> and then failure to "mount /dev on /root/dev"
[06:59] <BenC> ok
[06:59] <fabbione> that's clearly udev problems
[06:59] <BenC> any directories I need to create that might not be there by default on the rootfs?
[06:59] <fabbione> afaik udev takes care of creating them for you
[07:00] <fabbione> so no..
[07:00] <fabbione> once you install udev, it's a good idea to reboot, but i guess you have done that already
[07:10] <BenC> I can see one problem, and that's that devfs is getting mounted
[07:10] <BenC> it shouldn't should it?
[07:12] <BenC> oh wait, that's another kernel
[07:50] <fabbione> hmm no
[07:50] <fabbione> devfs is not required at all in ubuntu
[08:06] <fabbione> YAY
[08:06] <fabbione> ocfs2 crash seems to be fixed in 1.1.2
[08:17] <zul> meh...sk98lin-vendor is not building correctl yet
[08:49] <mjg59> BenC: I've just sent you some crack patches