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mititelu`thank you very much12:00
Pickle_Weaselthanks a lot =D12:00
Gnonthgolmititeiu: any time12:00
slowtekman this program has no readme12:00
slowteklol12:00
ce33nadylanrogers: the hdparm command in the wiki does not enable dma, it only shows your current setup12:01
ce33nadylanrogers: let me see if I can find some good documentation on hdparm12:01
hubsisomebody knows how i can send my hostname to router that it identifys me as "hubsi"12:01
hubsi?12:01
slowtekah hfound one finaly12:01
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ce33nadylanrogers: oops...I stand corrected. It does show how to enable dma12:02
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ce33na  "sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc" enables dma on hdc (usually the cdrom)12:03
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slowtekcrimsun : to bad ubuntu dont have a xorg.conf like the readme suggest ;)12:04
slowtekmaybe I can put them options in XF86config-412:05
jtan325hi. how do you do a cvs diff between the most recent previous version, and current version, without knowing the actual version numbers? is this even possible?12:05
dylanrogersce33na, ill try12:06
dylanrogersce33na, its on12:07
dylanrogersbut i can still only rip cds at 2.8x12:07
ce33nagood deal...I'm off to dinner12:07
xulMunkeeis there a iiimf-le-tools pkg for ubuntu?12:07
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waldeI have problems with losetup. I tried connecting to a device crypted with aes (256 Bit). But when I am trying 'losetup -e aes -k 256' it fails. I used gentoo before with the command 'losetup -e aes-256' which fails here. Any ideas?12:09
Seveasin which way does it fail?12:09
crimsunit depends whether gentoo used a loop-aes-patched losetup12:09
Seveasyou need to load at least the cryptoloop and aes module iirc12:10
waldecrimsun, gentoo used the kernel-module.12:10
naliothslowtek: no xorg.conf?12:11
waldeBoth modules are loaded. Ubuntu has a module called aes_i58612:11
naliothslowtek: are you using warty?12:11
xbisonti need help to install hoary or breezy on my notebook HP Pavilion ze2115us, AMD sempron12:12
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slowtekcrimsun : that readme does not help its for xorg.conf :( and in XF86Config-4 it whines about the syntax that the readme says to use12:12
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xbisonthoary finished the installation but it doesn't start the gnome session, and hoary just finish the basic installation but on reboot it doesn't find the hda devise12:14
xbisontsorry, and breezy just finish the basic installation but on reboot it doesn't find the hda devise12:14
dylanrogershow can i hack AIM passwords?  can you direct me to the place where i can get my aim password back?12:14
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Seveasdylanrogers, we do not support illegal activities in here12:16
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carthikdylanrogers, or legal, for that matter12:16
carthik;)12:16
spstarrSeveas12:16
spstarrproblems12:16
Seveasspstarr, 'sup?12:16
spstarrSetting up libpango1.0-common (1.8.2-1) ...12:16
spstarr--output-fd: unknown option12:16
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timtuxdylanrogers, use the "ive forgotten my password cous im an dumb ass" function ;)12:16
spstarrbad12:16
timtux:_D12:16
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Seveasyeah, pretty bad...12:16
carthiktimtux, ooh!12:16
Seveasn idea what it is actually12:16
spstarr--output-fd? broken apt/dpkg?12:16
waldecrimsun, I dont expect gentoo has used any weired patches in the crypto-algorithm12:16
spstarrolder version needed?12:17
Seveasare you using ubuntu apt/dpkg?12:17
CameroonLoserIs there any way to get photoshop without crossover office?12:17
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spstarrit says yes12:17
dylanrogersSeveas, its my password though12:17
CameroonLoserand I mean version 7.012:17
unvswhat kernel does Hoary Hedgehog ship with? I've got the Live/Install DVD12:17
Seveasand ubuntu libpango?12:17
dylanrogerstimtux, its my pw tho12:17
spstarryes12:17
Seveasunvs, 2.6.1012:17
Napalmzunvs uname -a12:17
spstarrohhh12:17
unvsNapalmz: i haven't installed it yet :)12:17
unvsSeveas: thanks!12:17
spstarrjust replaced debconf-utils with debian version12:18
spstarrtrying again12:18
Seveasis the complete ubuntu-desktop already installed?12:18
Seveasubuntu-base i mean12:18
spstarrit says so12:18
Seveasnice12:18
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spstarrlet mre uninstall it12:18
spstarrudev is broken i noticed12:19
spstarrneeded to use debian experimental version12:19
spstarrwith 2.6.13-rcX12:19
timtuxWhy use hoary now? Wait untill the final release (its just some days/weeks left)12:19
timtuxbreezy*12:19
zukalkdoes anyone here use the Official backports?12:19
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spstarr--output-fd: unknown option12:20
spstarrdebconf: whiptail output to the above errors, giving up!12:20
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spstarranyone know who might be asking for --output-fd ?12:21
funkyhi12:21
funkythe correct way to downgrade to hoary from breezy ?12:21
Seveasfunky, reinstall12:22
funkyHatgah12:22
funkySeveas: ok12:22
funkyHati have funky on my highlight list because so many people just call me 'funky' in other channels, but then it higlights when people just say funky :(12:22
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Seveasfunky :)12:23
funkyHatlol12:23
Seveas:p12:23
funkyHat!lart Seveas12:23
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Seveas:p12:23
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ce33naouch12:23
restrexare the X working on breezy right now? or.. don't upgrade! ?12:23
naliothoh no. not that rot here12:23
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naliothSeveas: why is that stupidness even enabled in ubotu?12:24
funkyanyone is getting an error when launch X server about keyboard driver ?12:24
timtuxI dont get why so many wanna use breezy now?12:24
mjryah, seems that !lart is rather contrary to the channel spirit :)12:24
Seveastimtux, because it's cool and new etc.. :)12:24
naliothtimtux: they want to bleed on the edge12:24
timtux:-P12:24
slowtekwhat the crap12:24
slowteklol12:24
timtuxBreezy is buggy as Windows12:25
timtux:-P12:25
slowtek i dont think you can config synaptics12:25
naliothtimtux: now now, that's rather harsh12:25
slowtekhow to you tell the version of ubuntu you got12:25
hubsiwindows isn't buggy if you use it right12:25
slowtekits just bloated :P12:25
naliothas a paperweight?12:25
timtuxhubsi, it is.12:25
Seveashubsi, even then it is buggy, but this is not the channel to discuss that...12:25
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slowtekman who would of thuaght it could be such a pain in the @## to turn of touchpad click in x in unbuntu12:26
timtuxUse it it witch way you want, you always got some encrypted messages whit no information how to fix it.12:26
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slowtekhow old is warty12:26
slowtekmaybe thats my problem12:27
hubsino it isn't .... not more than other os12:27
slowtekwhy nothing works hardly :P12:27
slowtekdoes any one know how to stop ubuntu from haning for 5 minutes on kernel boot .. it hangs at initializng device modes12:27
slowtekcause of UDEV wich gnome is dependent on12:28
slowtekand when you make a custom kernel and reboot you have to wait a very long time almost 3 minutes to be exact for it to create all the udev entries in order to boot12:28
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slowtek!warty12:29
ubotuslowtek: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:29
uglysmurfi have two "devices" for audio, one Alsa mixer, and one OSS mixer, but only one sound card...anyone know what's up with that, or where it's configured?12:29
timtux!hoary12:29
ubotuit has been said that hoary is a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet12:29
spstarrhrm12:29
spstarrbad12:29
Seveasslowtek, have grepmap installed...12:29
slowtekslowtek  : Seveaz its not even an option to install12:30
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spstarrhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=20301512:30
nicksirZi can't get my wireless device to work with Ubuntu12:30
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slowtekSeveaz : that package is not available12:30
spstarrreplace whiptail with new version12:30
slowtekSeveaz: could it be the fact that Im runnign WARTY ?12:31
kemikis there a way to change nautilus "listview" to look as the listview in windows-explorer (w/o the Date/size/type information, just filenames )12:31
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nicksirZI can't get wireless to work and everytime i go to Network Settings and try to run administrator mode it brings me to the main KDE Control center Screen12:32
nicksirZcan anybody help me out here?12:32
josh43ok, I just updated my display drivers, ran fglrxconfig, rebooted and was shocked when I got graphics, but now I can't run half the things.. it says:  error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:32
josh43I would google this, but firefox doesn't even run properly12:34
spstarrfixed Sevea12:34
spstarrreplace whiptail12:34
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intelikeyi get this error "alsactl: set_controls:1119: snd_ctl_open error: No such file or directory"  anyone know what to do about it?12:35
carthikcan someone remind me how to find what processor my computer has ? :)12:35
_frank_.... case fan is supposed to blow towards the outside of the case, right?12:35
spstarrbrb12:35
josh43_frank_: the rear exhaust fans, yes: Air in the front, through, and out the back12:35
scaleanyone here know anything about ALSA sound?12:35
crimsunscale: shoot12:36
intelikeycarthik cat /proc/cpuinfo12:36
carthikintelikey, that was it! thanks12:36
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scalei'm not getting any sound. i think i might need to install a driver for my sound card...12:36
nicksirZCan anybody help me out? Trying to set up wireless...12:36
scalebut the alsa documentation is being elusive.12:36
xulMunkeeare all ubuntu gnome apps built w/o pango support?12:36
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shaymhello12:36
intelikeyscale can you run alsamixer ?12:37
josh43hi shaym12:37
scaleintelikey: from a terminal? let me try...12:37
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_frank_josh43: just making sure. thanks!12:38
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haakonnhow can i get mplayer to use the whole screen in fullscreen? now it just uses a little area on the middle of the screen. (vo x11 as default)12:38
scaleintelikey: yeah, i can... looks like it should be working fine...12:38
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intelikeynot muted scale ?12:38
scalemaster and pcm aren't12:38
intelikeyk12:39
josh43haakonn: Try playing with the video output modules12:39
nicksirZi'm trying to run ndiswrapper to get my wireless working, but it tells me permission is not allowed, i am using sudo modprobe ndiswrapper12:39
scalei just unmuted surround, center, and LFE... lemme see if that did anything12:39
haakonnjosh43: using vo sdl works, but that seems a bit slower and has a grainier image12:39
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scaleno, still nothing.12:40
josh43haakonn: That's one of the bad parts.. when you scale a video, you are going to lose quality, even if it's the same size12:40
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liquidfireAnyone has an idea, my xine player just keeps closing when i right lcick on it12:40
Plukhaakonn, try vo xv12:40
josh43haakonn: The best you are probably going to get is one of the opengl outputs12:40
nicksirZwhen i type " sudo modprobe ndiswrapper " and then enter my password i get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5- 386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted12:41
Gnonthgolhkonn: Have you tryed the double tapping in the image, if that dont work somebody should make it work.12:41
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Plukor the option -zoom12:41
josh43ok, I just updated my display drivers, ran fglrxconfig, rebooted and was shocked when I got graphics, but now I can't run half the things.. it says:  error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:41
haakonnPluk: that worked quite well, thanks! now to figure out how to make it the default :)12:41
cute_bettonghow do i prevent linux from using anymore than 512mb of ram?12:41
Seveasnot.12:41
cute_bettongi have a stick of ram that reads more than it is12:42
Plukhaakonn, edit .mplayer/config12:42
Plukand just add vo = xv there12:42
haakonnPluk: there is a file in /etc too, remember what it is called?12:42
juanejdoes anyone know where can i download last libc6? i cant install gtk-gnutella because of that lib is not updated12:42
cute_bettongand i can't do anything becuase linux keeps trying to right to the portion of the ram that dosen't exist12:42
liquidfireAnyone has an idea, my xine player just keeps closing when i right click on it12:42
haakonnPluk: never mind, /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf12:43
cute_bettongso i want it to have access to nothing more than 51212:43
Plukits /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf12:43
cute_bettongcan anyone help?12:43
Pluklol just too late :)12:43
nicksirZcan anybody help me?12:43
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Gnonthgolcute_bettong: have you tryed to enter bios setup and tinker with the memmory thingie?12:43
cute_bettongthere isen't one12:43
cute_bettongit reads 102412:43
cute_bettongand theres only 512 in the box12:43
cute_bettongso i need to prevent linux from seeing that12:44
cute_bettongso that it regesters only 51212:44
remyforbes777 anyone using ubuntu  64 on a laptop12:44
josh43there is a way to do it.. I found one that involves editing kernel source and recompiling12:44
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cute_bettongi can't do to much here if the computer keeps wrighting to the 512+ range12:44
nicksirZhello?? can anybody help me out?12:45
intelikeycute_bettong have you tried passing a ram= option to the kernel?   man lilo/grub for howto12:45
cute_bettongwell i'm kinda new and would love to do that but don't know how can you walk me through it?12:45
zukalkwhat jabber client do you recommend? Gaim's giving me a hard time with the subscriptions12:46
cute_bettongi would really appriciate it12:46
durtnicksirz, you could try sudo su  maybe12:46
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nicksirZthen just type the same thing?12:46
GnonthgolnicksirZ: problem?12:46
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intelikeycute_bettong the man-page for lilo or grub should walk you through it...12:46
nicksirZwhen i type " sudo modprobe ndiswrapper " and then enter my password i get this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5- 386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted12:46
GoClickI changed the contents of /etc/hostname from (babyninja to ninjajr) and now when I boot the machine it complains it cant look it up and stuff, and when I do sudo etc12:46
cute_bettonghow do i even get to it?12:47
cute_bettongi use grub12:47
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nicksirZsudo su got the same error12:47
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cute_bettongalso could it be becuase ive switched from pentium to amd without redoing my box?12:48
intelikeycute_bettong "man grub "12:48
cute_bettongok12:48
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intelikeycute_bettong "man man"12:49
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cute_bettongoh ok12:50
intelikeyman is your friend.12:50
GoClickSomeone told me to change my hostname by changing the contents of /etc/hostname and now my system is buggered sudo won't work properly and it says it can't lookup the new name :P12:50
cute_bettongstill dosen't give me any info12:50
cute_bettongat least not that i can understand12:51
nicksirZI can log in as sudo su but as soon as i type "modprobe ndiswrapper" i get that fatal error Operation not permitted12:51
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nicksirZanyone have any idea why?12:51
cute_bettongjust a simple dirty way can do it12:51
owlmanattI can't get CSS encrypted DVDs to play back in Totem or Xine, but I have libdvdcss2 installed. I can get the FBI warning screens, but right as I should see the menu, both Totem and Xine spit up an error window saying I need libdvdcss. What's the deal?12:52
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cute_bettongi really need to do this or i'll have to switch back to my old box and i really don't want to do that cause it was a pIII12:52
cute_bettongand i'm using an amd 3200+12:52
cute_bettongnow12:52
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crazy2kHow do I do to enable a repository where more software is available? (Like games, and all.)12:54
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funkyHatubotu, tell crazy2k about repositories12:54
dylanrogersdoes anybody know how i can convert all my mp3s to ogg without damaging the quality?  will it sound like a nicely ripped ogg or not?12:54
crimsundylanrogers: there will be quality loss12:54
intelikeyat the grub prompt "E"  and edit the line by adding ram=<blah> then boot cute_bettong but i don't even use grub..... so if you want to get it right read the manule page on grub....12:54
nicksirZno one can help i take it?12:55
dylanrogerscrimsun, any way that i can make it the other way around?12:55
hardw1rei tend to do sudo modprobe ....12:55
intelikeynicksirZ you night ask in #linuxhelp12:55
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liquidfireAnyone has an idea, my xine player just keeps closing when i right click on it12:56
hardw1renope....12:56
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crazy2kI need to install the shockwave plugin, so I can see swf in Firefox. What should I do?12:59
slowtekok i give up12:59
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slowtekits imposible to adjust the synaptics touchpad touchclick option on warty01:00
tomajhow do you set x-chat up to identify automatically?01:00
dradulcrazy2k, you don't need the shockwave plugin. You need the flash lusing instead. In order to install it you need to activate the multiverse reposotories (in Synaptic).01:01
josh43liquidfire; drop to a shell prompt, and type xine - that'll show you the errors01:01
phayze2crazy2k: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla01:01
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tomaj!flash01:01
ubotuI heard flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:01
josh43crazy2k; are you on a64?01:01
spackes1anyone ever see this from ant?01:01
spackes1"Error starting modern compiler"01:01
AptGeti switched back to debian today01:01
AptGetfarewell guys01:02
tomajbye01:02
liquidfirethanks josh4301:04
liquidfire!pastebin01:04
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:04
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tomajhow do you install deb packages01:04
liquidfirehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/167001:04
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liquidfirejosh43, any idea :)?01:05
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spackes1tomaj: you mean dpkg -i?01:06
tomajthanx spackes101:06
liquidfireanyone else :D?01:06
liquidfirehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1670 i have no clue about these errors01:06
D1anyone use galeon and know if it has the RSS capability like firefox?01:07
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juanejhow do install some fonts?01:12
juaneji already extract them to /usr/share/fonts01:12
juanejbut i dont find them01:12
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cafuego_juanej: Remove them from there, put them in ~/.fonts/01:14
cafuego_juanej: Then run 'xset fp rehash'01:14
juanejthere is no .fonts :(01:14
cafuego_juanej: So make one01:14
juanejahmm ok01:15
juanej:)01:15
juanejthx01:15
cafuego_works fine for .ttf and .dfont fonts.01:15
draduljuanej, copy them *rather* to /usr/local/share/fonts, that's what that directory is there for. Then run the following commands on the directory: "fc-cache -fs", mkfntcache and mkfntdir. in that order; then make sure to add the path to the Xserver configuration file /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the proper section. If you don't want them available globally sure, you can use .fonts.01:15
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juanejlol01:16
juanejthx again01:16
liquidfirehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1670 i have no clue about these errors01:19
liquidfireany one lese :/?01:19
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LokeDKwhat is gam_server, and why does it take alot of my cpu?01:21
codecainefile monitor01:21
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EpixOk, heres a wierd thingy i wanna do with ubuntu01:21
juanejdradul, it doesnt seem to work01:21
Epixi have my computer plugged into the wall01:21
juaneji dont see the installed fonts01:21
LokeDKcan I kill it?01:21
draduljuanej, you need to reboot the Xserver. You can hit ctrl-alt-backspace and lose your session or wait for the next time you reboot..  :-)01:22
Epixnvm that01:22
codecaineLokeDK, you can but some apps use it to do certain things01:22
juanejok01:22
juanejbrb01:22
Epixok, i have a phone plugged into the modem.01:22
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Epixand i want to use that phone as a mic/speaker. possible?01:22
Stormx2Is the spambot attack still happening?01:23
LokeDKcodecaine, will it stop? it slows down my computer01:23
timtuxDDoS the spambot(s)?01:23
codecainetry it01:23
liquidfirehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1670 could someone help me with those errors :(?01:23
Epixso... could it be done?01:24
timtuxDont got any axss to an botnet.01:24
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GoClickGrrrr my boss bought me a desk and it's a POS this only agrivates my whole work situation further, they want me to demo a product that doesn't work yet on Tuesday and work from a desk that is for whatever the reason small and shaped like a peanut?!01:24
Seveasliquidfire: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.01:24
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liquidfiremailing list ?01:24
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GoClickObviously the peanut is the most effective work shape!01:25
timtuxBrnnvin !01:25
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shinuwhere should i look for the error log if ubuntu just hangs up without a reason?01:26
juanejthx01:26
juanejnow it works01:26
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reikianyone with an Epson R200 able to print directly on CDs? I'm trying to figure out a driver....01:29
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EasterSunshinereiki: wait...you are putting cds into your printer tray?01:30
scalelol01:30
codecaineanyone know where the "last login" hostname/time is stored?01:31
oceandeadi was wondering why my printer kept getting jammed...01:31
reikiEasterSunshine: the R200 has a CD holder and can print directly on printable CDs in windows... I wanna do that in Ubuntu01:31
EasterSunshinereiki: wow that is hot01:31
reikiVery hot! :)01:31
Stormx2super hot01:31
liquidfirelightscribe tech?01:31
liquidfirereiki,01:31
reikiespecially for a $100 printer01:31
liquidfire:)?01:31
Stormx2Hey can someone tell me a good way i can tell the world how much I love ubuntu?01:32
reikiI think the newer gimp-print driver does this but I'm having truble finding information01:32
EasterSunshinecodecaine: do you know about /var/log ?01:32
reikiStormx2: Tatoo the Ubuntu logo on your forhead?01:32
codecaineyes01:33
Stormx2reiki: Good Idea!!!01:33
reiki:)01:33
Stormx2I'll have it done tomorow.01:33
reikiexcellent!01:33
EasterSunshinecodecaine: and none of those log login's?01:33
GnonthgolStormx2: order 100cds and give them away on the streets01:34
Stormx2maybe not my forehead though.01:34
Stormx2Gnonthgol: Done, and it was 130.01:34
Stormx2Gnonthgol: I ordered 200 but they didn't have that many01:34
Gnonthgolkeep up the good work01:34
Stormx2Gnonthgol: Think I should send some to the MS headquaters?01:34
codecaineEasterSunshine, it's lastlog file /var/log/lastlog it's not in readable format, i wanted to change the value in a logout script01:35
EasterSunshinesend your puke while you are at it01:35
Stormx2xD01:35
Stormx2I looked round there01:35
Stormx2School visit01:35
Stormx2(the UK HQ)01:35
Stormx2I booted up ubuntu on a lot of their machines.01:35
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Stormx2knoppix, too, but thats another story.01:35
Stormx2no seriously01:36
Stormx2any other ways01:36
Stormx2Is there any big art I can print off?01:36
Stormx2I have an A3 printer here.01:36
GnonthgolMicrosoft uses alot MS Xion servers based on UNIX01:36
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Stormx2haha01:37
Gnonthgollol01:37
Stormx2no, honestly01:37
Stormx2any big artwork?01:37
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GnonthgolA Penguin01:37
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dabaRhi01:38
Stormx2but thats just linux01:38
Stormx2not ubuntu01:38
oceandeadhey dabaR01:38
GnonthgolYou all have to remember that there are other linux distros that could be beter then ubuntu for sertain things01:39
EasterSunshineGnonthgol: for example?01:39
Stormx2haha my thoughts exactly01:39
Stormx2but to be fair01:39
GnonthgolSkolelinux.no01:39
Stormx2some linux distros are built for very specific things01:40
Stormx2some run on ipods, for example.01:40
GnonthgolSkole means school01:40
Stormx2ubuntu can't do that without a lot of modification.01:40
xulMunkeei'm having problems seeing unicode fonts in ubuntu. this is what a webpage looked like in fedora core http://tinyurl.com/dqu8d  and here is what i see in ubuntu hoary http://tinyurl.com/87o2h01:40
Stormx2thats in crazy language.01:40
liquidfirewe're getting edubuntu :o01:40
Stormx2I WANT IT!!!01:41
dabaRgnu/linux distros are packages of software, really.01:41
Gnonthgolbut not for thinclients01:41
dabaRso, Ubuntu targets to have software for everyday users on the CD.01:41
Gnonthgoltrue01:41
dabaRAny distro can be set up to have packages pretty much as any other.01:41
Stormx2yeh01:41
Stormx2but ubuntu01:41
dabaRjust that its easier to havfe a prepackaged thing, so...01:41
Stormx2is just01:41
Stormx2perfect01:41
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Stormx2in my opinion01:42
dabaR:)01:42
oceandeada lot easier01:42
Stormx2yeh01:42
dabaRStormx2: in your need.01:42
xulMunkeeare ubuntu gnome pkgs missing pango or something?01:42
dabaRnot opinion.01:42
Stormx2i sing praises about it all the time01:42
dabaR!find pango01:42
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'pango' (6 shown): libpango1-ruby ;; libpango1.0-0 ;; libpango1.0-common ;; libpango1.0-dbg ;; libpango1.0-dev ;; libpango1.0-doc.01:42
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BergcubeGnonthgol~ I'm a norwegian computer consultant.  I have used Skolelinux, besides knowing a couple of the people behind the distro.  It's very good for pupils, esp. those that do not know any second language.  As an OS in general Skolelinux is unremarkable, and I consider Ubuntu to have several advantages if you're a grown-up user.01:42
Stormx2=)01:42
Gnonthgoleinig01:43
Stormx2I wanna say thanks to everyone who helped with ubuntu01:43
xulMunkeedabaR, do you know why i'm getting such crappy unicode font rendering in ubuntu?01:43
oceandeadsecond that01:43
Stormx2mozilla? xD01:43
dabaRno idea01:43
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nerdy2xulMunkee:  crappy font?01:43
liquidfirehmm01:43
reikiis there a way to search all repositories without activating tehm in my Synaptic repo list? I'm looking for a newer version of gimp-print or gutenprint.  Thanks...01:43
liquidfirethats it i'm going back to hoary01:44
dabaRreiki packages.ubuntu.com.01:44
liquidfire>_>01:44
xulMunkeenerdy2, ubuntu has the same OTF font used in FC401:44
reikidabaR: thanks!  I knew there was a way :)01:44
oceandeadtesting woes i guess01:44
codecainewhat do i use to execute a file in c language?01:44
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dracflamlochey01:44
BergcubeCompile it?01:44
dabaRa compiler, then jut its namr01:44
codecainewhat do i use gcc ?01:45
dabaRjust, name01:45
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dracflamlocin the new xchat, how do i make the nicknames have < > around them01:45
codecaineto compile it01:45
dabaRsure, yes01:45
GnonthgolBergcube: Is it ok if I quote you when trying to convince to install Skolelinux on schools01:45
helloyohow do i change gdm to say entrance?01:45
Stormx2dracflamloc: Not sure you can! Each IRC client handles it differently.01:45
xulMunkeeanyone know how to enable pango in gtk apps?01:46
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dracflamlocyea, but the old xchat (2.1.x) had <> around them01:46
JBLoudG20does anyone know how to disable the desktop icons in gnome?01:46
dabaRthe gdm login screen? helloyo? you want to change whast it looks like?01:47
oceandeadapplications > system tools > configuration editor01:47
BergcubeGnonthgol~ Of course!  If you think a random Yahoo in IRC will have any swing with the powers that be just go ahead.  I'll even do one better:  /msg me and I'll give you my daytime phone#  I can show up and tell them in person.  (Selling the product that is me...)01:47
Stormx2dabaR: System > Adminstration > Login Screen ?01:47
helloyodabaR, yeah, the login screen, just setup E17 beautifully, and want to use its login screen01:47
Gnonthgolcan I just remind people that there are chanels in other languages as well, #ubuntu-ll where ll is the contry code01:48
GoClickIt would seem that sambas password synch stuff didn't work :P01:48
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GoClickI'm going to lose my job :P01:48
dabaRStormx2: well, ya, that is where you change it, I am not sure what he exactly wants, but I go to gnome-look.org, or art.gnome.org when I want to play with themes.01:48
dabaR!themes01:48
uboturumour has it, themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com01:48
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oceandeadJBLoudG20: applications > system tools > configuration editor - then go to apps > nautilus > desktop01:49
Stormx2I'm gonna try again as more people are chatting:01:49
JBLoudG20oceandead, thanks a lot01:49
oceandeadnp01:49
Stormx2Does anyone have some Hi-Res ubuntu artwork I can print off?01:49
oceandeadyou can customize gdm theme01:50
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GoClickStormx2 I don't know if there is but it'd be cool if there were a marketing project where people could upload brochures and stuff01:50
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Stormx2http://www.gnome-look.org/content/files/28246-ubuntu.jpg I'll gimp some text onto that01:51
Stormx2I have an A3 Photo Printer ^_^01:52
GnonthgolGoClick: Like spreadfirefox.com?01:53
Lie-Algebrahi, wanted to know something about qtparted : when resizing a partition, the new free space conservs its file system?01:53
Stormx2Lie-Algebra: Hmmmm01:53
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Lie-AlgebraI want to resize my win partition and i am just wondering some questions ;p01:54
scalehow do i install a different driver for alsa?01:55
scaleshould it be automatic?01:55
BergcubeStormx2~ How about http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Antarctica_satellite_orthographic.jpg ?  I like that image a lot...01:55
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BergcubeStormx2~ Oh sorry!  I missed the wish for UBUNTU images....  I thought you just wanted something hi-res.....  My bad.01:57
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Fr0Gsare ubuntu forums down?02:03
theineFr0Gs, works for me02:05
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dabaRping it.02:06
reikiok NOW I'm scared... :)  I have to compile a new printer driver. I haven't compiled ANYTHING since compiling slackware kernels *cough*many*cough* years ago. :)02:08
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BergcubedabaR~ Hmmm.  Wasn't that a hit by the paedophile formerly known as Michael Jackson?  ;-)02:11
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dabaRJust ping it?02:14
dabaRhehe.02:14
BergcubeCue guitar solo by Eddie Van....02:14
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gpdwtf happened to this channel?02:16
gpda month ago it was like a zoo in here...02:17
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gpdnow all is quiet...02:17
reikishould I be using cups printing or foomatic printing? And how do I tell which one I'm using now? :)02:17
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Fr0Gshey all i got ubuntu 4.10 warty how can i make a remote desktop connection to it so it goes to the desktop02:18
Bergcubegpd~ Perhaps the Chobits in this channel are talking some of the load....02:18
Fr0Gswith all the gnome panels etc...02:18
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tikkuhello02:18
tikkuokay here is the question, I'm about to install opera but im not sure how to install from a .deb file, could anyone help me with this problem?02:19
tikkuI mean someone02:19
dabaRFr0Gs: VNC.02:19
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dabaRI dont know further than that.02:19
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hussamwill breezy get xorg 6.9 or 7.0 or will it stay on 6.8.2 ?02:20
Gnonthgoltikku: #dpkg -i opera<tab>.deb02:20
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GoClickWhen is Breezy due out and will it come with any new tools?02:21
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dabaRGoClick: /topic02:21
dabaRhussam: wiki. search for breezy goals.02:21
zerboxxHow can I easily switch between wireless/wired network connections? right now I have to do way to much in the terminal to go from one to the other02:21
dabaRzerboxx: script it, or alias it.02:21
hardw1rewat do i need to use 2 untar a rar archive02:22
zerboxxdabaR: There's nothing already out there? ;)02:22
GoClickdabaR I looked at that earlier today but it was a little nebulous for me I was hopping for the reader digest HEY KIDS LOOK FORWARD TO THIS! kinda thing02:22
dabaRrar. hardw1re02:22
dabaRGoClick: it says dont it? Ill check it out, Ill find something for you.02:22
Gnonthgolzerboxx: it is an easy script nobody care to put out02:22
Fr0Gswhats this Vino thing02:23
tikkuGnonthgol, okay another question, how can i add it to the applications -> Internet ? :-)02:23
dabaRhey no more colony 3 link in the topic.02:23
zerboxxGnonthgol: Offhand, do you know what needs to be done, just incase I did more than necessary?02:23
gpdGoClick: edit sources.list s/hoary/breezy/ then apt-get -s dist-upgrade :)02:23
Gnonthgolzerboxx: I could try, you right click om the panel to create an icon02:24
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dabaRGoClick: for one... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59306&highlight=breezy+preview .02:25
dabaRsearch the forums.02:25
GoClickk02:25
GoClickDoes anyone know how to get WindowsXP to forget everything you've told it about your network, like usernames and passwords for shares?02:26
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GnonthgolGoClick: There is a program to reset the XP to just after the install (before any users) but I dont know how to get it02:28
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hardw1rehow do i unrar an archive thats split up into many archives?02:29
BROKEN_LADDERi have a list of programs i want to run when i startup into x.  is there anyway to specify at a command line which workspace they should run in?02:29
BROKEN_LADDERthree of them that i want to be in workspace 2 always start in 1 by default.02:29
BergcubeGoClick~ Killpart.02:29
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PlutoPrimehardw1re, rightclick on the file with .rar or .r01 extension and choose extract here02:30
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GnonthgolBROKEN: go into Sessions02:30
ikkyshi folks, just wondering the difference between ubuntu 5.04 and kubuntu 5.04? which should i download?02:30
PlutoPrimehardw1re, basically start with the file that is .rar and it will pickup the  rest by itself02:30
hardw1rehmmm i do and i get failed :(02:31
PlutoPrimehardw1re, your files could be bad02:31
hardw1re:'(02:31
PlutoPrimehardw1re, which unrar are you using?02:31
PlutoPrimehardw1re, unrar-nonfree 3.42 from universe?02:31
rob^ikkys, ubuntu  :)02:31
GoClickI just want it to forget about all of the shares on the network because I'm trying to configure out server and it's a mess now02:31
ikkysrob^, but what differences are there in the 2?02:32
mementorubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu kde..02:32
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rob^one is gnome, one is kde02:32
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ikkysoh, so ubuntu doesnt include both GUI?02:32
Fr0Gsdoes anyone know how to remote desktop from windows to the Ubuntu warty 4.10 desktop02:32
GoClickikkys nope02:32
rob^Fr0Gs, yes, grab an XLiveCD02:33
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Fr0Gshuh02:33
dabaRikkys: it does, just not by default.02:33
BergcubeGoClick~ On a serious note:  XP will discover if a server or share disappears.  After a reboot or two it won't look for it anymore.02:33
rob^forward X to your windows desktop running an x server02:33
dabaRsudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu, and sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop in kubuntu, makes it so both are installed.02:34
GoClickikkys nope02:34
ikkysnot by default, what u meant by that? i heard kde is much nicer graphically, so which do u guys prefer? gnome or kde?02:34
GoClicksorry I didn't mean to say that02:34
GoClickBergcube yeah it's around 12 minutes or so02:34
GnonthgolFrogs: both are dirs. so you can just copy them, but Linux does not suport the .lnk files (links)02:34
dabaRthis is the gnome channel.02:34
dabaR#kubuntu is the kde channel.02:35
GoClickikkys I like GNOME I personaly think it looks a lot better and it themes your apps but I also find it faster and I don't like Trolltech who makes Qt which is the toolkit used to make KDE02:35
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GoClickikkys also everything KDE starts with the letter k which bugs me silly, although to be fair a ton of GNOME apps start with G but they usally make it into a clever acronym02:36
dabaRikkys: by not by default, I mean that kubuntu by default does not install gnome, and ubuntu by default does not install kde, but the packages are there, so yes, ubuntu includes both GUIs.02:36
reikihmmm.... this needs a c compiler... that's gcc?  Am I remembering that right?02:36
dabaRalso, they are desktop environments.02:36
GoClickAlso, and I KNOW people will dissagree but it's easier to write GNOME apps which means there are lots of great little stupid programs02:36
GoClickCompetition is good..02:36
Gnonthgolreiki: yes02:36
ikkysso kde is slow? well, im a beginner like most of us, just wanted a second oppinion02:37
dabaRGoClick: so do kde apps make it into a clever acronym, yet they all sound russian:)02:37
dabaRkonsole...02:37
reikiGnonthgol:  thanks02:37
dabaRand german.02:37
GoClickdabaR hah02:37
BergcubeGoClick~ You've never run an IBM AS/400 then.  All (ALL) system objects and files have names starting with "Q"...   :-)02:37
GoClickikkys I'd say go with the default02:37
dabaRikkys: as I said....this is the gnome channel.02:37
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GoClickBergcube that's awful, why?!02:37
dabaRikkys: try both, tell us which is better, and also, if you have a good computer, they will both be fast, I would expect, otherwise everyone would use the faster.02:38
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dabaRikkys: if you have a slow computer, use xfce, and not neither of gnome or kde.02:38
QMarioHello everyone!02:38
ikkysim on p4 2.4ghz 51202:38
dabaRsounds excellent, either will work.02:38
QMarioHello DabaR. :)02:38
Gnonthgolhi02:38
dabaRyo QMario, I was about to say hi.02:38
BergcubeIBM's answer is that Q is so little used to "normal things" and it's good to separate system stuff from other stuff by a visible marker like that.  It actually gets to be a habit.  After a while you don't see the "Q"........  (Or perhaps it was my mind that was going...)02:39
QMarioDabaR, what is xfce?02:39
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BROKEN_LADDERGnonthgol i have used sessions.02:39
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BROKEN_LADDERGnonthgol in sessions, i tell it to run these apps.02:39
GoClickBergcube when you had something important to say did you start your sentances with q?02:39
vladuz976what exactly does built-essentials install?02:39
BROKEN_LADDERbut how can i tell it which workspace to run them in.02:39
BROKEN_LADDERbuild-essentials02:39
QMarioBergcube, are you talking about the "Q" in my name?02:39
BergcubeQMario~ No.  But don't feel left out anyway!02:40
BROKEN_LADDERvladuz976 i think it has something to do with dependencies.02:40
incineratorhi, what is the best way of reporting a bug against a package from multiverse?02:40
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QMario Bergcube, hee hee. 02:40
BROKEN_LADDERwoah..musical notes. cool.02:40
xulMunkeecool musical notes02:40
=== BROKEN_LADDER hugs unicode.
BROKEN_LADDERUnicode gives me  and  and  and  and  02:40
GnonthgolI dont get them, just 266b02:41
Vizirihmmm, just as a quick test could someone click this this link and see if they can hear the sound from the music vid?  http://www.findvideos.com/videos.php?id=1608   - today i made sure of installing sound files02:41
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QMarioGnonthgol, did you do Ctrl+Shift+266B?02:41
dabaRQMario: ask ubotu, and also, ask him about windowmanagers, and in private please, /msg ubotu.02:41
reikiI just installed gcc using synaptic. I'm trying to compile a print driver and the /.configure is telling me there's no c compiler in $PATH. Can I get a little help?02:41
BROKEN_LADDERGnonthgol did you see my question?02:41
Paradoxxthis is a newb question, but how do you install apps on linux02:42
incineratorreiki: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:42
Vizirigoto system and click the package manager Paradoxx02:42
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QMarioParadoxx, aptitude or apt-get install "packagename".02:42
GnonthgolBROKEN: The fact is, i dont know02:42
dull404Anyone know how to fix GRUB Error 1702:43
dull404?02:43
Paradoxxi want to install azureus02:43
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Viziriwhy not use the default client?02:43
QMarioHello bluefoxicy! :)02:43
reikiincinerator: thanks... that did the trick02:43
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dull404or how do i reinstall grub? or something....02:44
Fr0Gshey all i followed the instructions on Remote Desktop on ubuntuguide it still isnt working02:44
Paradoxxbut it says it dosen't exsist02:44
tikkuParadoxx, www.ubuntuguide.org02:44
tikkutehre is a guide02:44
Fr0Gshey all i followed the instructions on Remote Desktop on ubuntuguide it still isnt working http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#remotedesktop02:44
Bergcubedull404~ That was on the ubuntu-users mailing list recently.  You get that error if the partition with the boot image on is so large that the image isn't within the first 1024 sectors.  (I think.)02:45
Paradoxxthats the site i'm on02:45
rob^!ubuntuguide02:45
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.02:45
ViziriI've been having huge problems with that too Fr0Gs - i gave up :902:45
GnonthgolParadoxx: you have to download it02:45
tikkuParadoxx, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#azureus there, first you have to install the java02:45
bluefoxicyQMario:  forkbomb problems02:45
dull404Bergcube, never had that problem before.. been using several distros with grub02:45
Viziriparadox - just go to system> administrator> package manager - then search for Azureus - easy peasy02:46
dabaRViziri: 100% sure on that?02:46
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Viziriassuming he has java02:47
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dabaRViziri: sure its in apt?02:47
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dabaRor repos, rather?02:47
Bergcubedull404~ Sorry, brain misfiring a little there.  But your answer is here:  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml02:47
PlutoPrimeAzureus is in non official backports02:48
Fr0Gsi got ubuntu 4.10 how do i upgrade to 5.10 without the setup cd02:48
PlutoPrimeit's not in universe/multiverse02:48
Fr0Gsor 5. wat ever02:48
Fr0Gsi got ubuntu 4.10 how do i upgrade to 5 without the setup cd02:48
ViziriFr0Gs: if u want kde you'll still get errors like i have trying to install it. apparently ubuntu are working on it02:49
PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, open your /etc/apt/sources.lst and replace warty with hoary everywhere you see it02:49
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Fr0Gseven at the top02:49
PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, then type sudo apt-get update, and followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:49
Viziriand i have 5.04 Fr0Gs02:49
PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, ignore the comments (preceded by #)02:49
Bergcubedull404~ By the way; you're welcome!02:49
BROKEN_LADDERGnonthgol are you not familiar with tab completion?02:50
Fr0Gsdeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted02:50
dull404Bergcube, i was so eager to read it :) thanks dude02:50
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Fr0Gsdo i replace that?02:50
BROKEN_LADDERGnonthgol i missed your commetns because you typed broken instead of bro -tab-02:50
PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, you can remove that line altogether02:50
PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, that refers to your warty cdrom02:50
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Fr0Gsdone02:50
dull404Bergcube, damn those gentoo guys must have all the best docs.. happens all the time :P02:50
Paradoxxi' still now sure how to install it guys02:51
GnonthgolBROKEN_LADDER: I did not know tab completion workd in every program02:51
Paradoxxnot*02:51
Fr0Gsshit!02:51
Fr0Gswhat did i have to type to get the distro update02:51
Fr0Gsand stuff02:51
Fr0Gsi typed clear02:51
Bergcubedull404~ I think it must be a side-effect of their "compile everything yourself" credo.  They have to have extensive docs......02:51
BROKEN_LADDERGnonthgol oh..you should use a program that has it.  it's so cool.02:51
PlutoPrimesudo apt-get update,  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:51
Fr0Gscan i do that in sshd02:52
Fr0Gsor wont it work?02:52
Fr0Gsssh02:52
PlutoPrimeyou can do it in terminal , yes02:52
PlutoPrimeit has no gui02:52
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GnonthgolBROKEN_LADDER: I use gaim, its coooooooool02:52
Fr0Gsand this will update everything02:52
gpdor use aptitude02:52
Fr0Gslike gnome02:52
PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, it will upgrade your entire OS and all of it's packages02:52
Paradoxxwould i have to download the the tar for azurues and unpackage that, etc02:53
Paradoxx?02:53
Viziriok - it seems like I can't get sound for asf files... any quick advice? (btw i would use forums but search isn't working)02:53
Fr0Gsthanks PlutoPrime02:53
PlutoPrime;)02:53
Fr0Gsi only got 512kb net02:53
Fr0Gs512/128kb02:53
dull404where is grub.conf located in ubuntu??02:54
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GnonthgolParadoxx: you just use #alien -i *.tar.gz instead of unpacking and building02:54
Bergcubedull404~  In /boot/grub02:54
bigbootayin /boot/grub/menu.lst ;)02:54
PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, it's going to be a long download :)02:54
Fr0Gs478mb02:54
Fr0Gsill do it over night02:54
Fr0Gshopefully it doesnt fuck anything up02:54
ParadoxxGnonthgol: huh?02:54
robotgeekFr0Gs: what is 478 Mb?02:55
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dull404i know menu.lst .. but, no grub.conf then? ah.. okey good02:55
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Fr0Gsupdate from ubuntu 4.10 to ubuntu 5.0402:55
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robotgeekFr0Gs: hmmm, not bad...i had a gig download from hoary to breezy, lucky i have univ net!02:55
Fr0Gsim hungry but there is no food in the house :(02:56
GnonthgolParadoxx: ok, azareus can be downloaded and installed with synaptic02:56
dull404robotgeek did you download breezy while running hoary?02:56
PlutoPrimeuhhh02:56
durtwhats wrong with gnome-bittorrent?02:56
dull404huh02:56
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robotgeekdull404: yeah, replace all instances of hoary in sources.list with breezy, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade02:57
Gnonthgoldurt: Azareus gives more info, I use it until I am finishd with my own bittorrent client02:57
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BergcubeHmmmm.  Just how off-topic are we allowed to get before being kicked off the channel, hunted down and killed, and THEN treated in all sorts of nasty ways?02:58
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Fr0Gswhats breezy?02:58
QMario!Floppy02:58
alankelonhello!02:58
ubotuQMario: Not a clue02:58
shadeofgreyokay guys i need help getting dvd playback in totem.,..  i already installed dvdlibcss202:58
QMarioAre floppy drives well supported in Ubuntu?02:58
PlutoPrimeFr0Gs, ubuntu 5.1002:58
dull404robotgeek, ok good, you did the right way ;)02:58
alankelonwhat's the package containing the Arial and Verdana OpenOffice.org fonts?02:58
Fr0Gsis that out?02:58
PlutoPrimeno.. october02:58
PlutoPrimeit's in testing right now02:58
Fr0Gshow did he get it02:58
alankelonthe package mscorefonts include those, but the firefox fonts gets ugly02:58
durtalankelon: msttcorefonts?02:58
alankelon=(02:58
PlutoPrimeyou can use it right now.. but don't complain if things are broken02:58
Fr0Gsis it good robotgeek?02:58
PlutoPrimeI'm using it right and it works great02:59
PlutoPrimeright now*02:59
Fr0Gswhats different in it02:59
alankelondurt, I tried it, but made firefox too small02:59
PlutoPrimemany things :)02:59
PlutoPrimetoo many to list?02:59
Fr0Gscan you send me ur source.list please02:59
alankelonI used debian for a long time and I didn't have problem with openoffice fonts02:59
durtalankelon: are your fonts displayed at 96 dpi?02:59
PlutoPrimefor breezy?02:59
alankelondurt, I don't know.02:59
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Fr0Gsyeh02:59
robotgeekFr0Gs: me?02:59
alankelondurt, how can I check this?03:00
Fr0Gsnah PlutoPrime03:00
Fr0Gscan u send it03:00
Fr0Gsplease03:00
durtsystem>prefs>fonts and click on details ( if your useing an lcd screen make sure you have selected subpixel smoothing)03:00
QMarioFr0Gs, you could always ask him to paste it in pastebot. ;)03:01
shadeofgreyguys i need help with dvd playbacvk in totem03:01
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shadeofgreyi already installed dvdlibcss203:01
MrGardenHoseManwhat's a good avi editor for linux?03:02
rob^shadeofgrey,  is it working at all?03:02
QMario"Shunned." :'(03:02
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ParadoxxGnonthgol: its not there for me03:02
shadeofgrey\no03:02
MrGardenHoseManall i really wanna do is cap a screen from a vid03:02
josh43ok, this whole ati+a64 thing is driving me MENTAL03:02
QMarioHello Josh43! :)03:02
josh43has anyone done it? Esp when tied to an nforce chipset?03:02
shadeofgreyrob:  no not at all...03:02
josh43hey QMario :)03:03
unvsthe Software Updates tool only updates existing packages right? It won't install any thing extra?03:03
BergcubeMrGardenHoseMan~ According to the magazine LinuxFormat Kino sounds very good.  I had no problems doing easy editing tasks in it, but I'm no experienced user.  YMMV.03:03
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deprave--holy drunk.03:03
rob^shadeofgrey, have you installed libdvdcss2 using apt-get?03:03
shadeofgreyrob:  yes03:03
MrGardenHoseManthanks03:03
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rob^shadeofgrey, have you installed totem-xine?03:03
shadeofgreyand its crazy because thats all i had to do last time to get it working...  on the same exact system03:03
shadeofgreyrob:  no i havent.  apt-get install totem-xine?03:04
rob^yep03:04
shadeofgreyokay thank you03:04
shadeofgreybrb03:04
rob^its doesn't use gstreamer so it works better03:04
tikku"./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libavformat.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" where can i get and where should i install that libavformat.so ?03:04
alankelondurt, I'm using 96dpi03:05
Paradoxx>.<03:05
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alankelondurt, before: http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/6184/beforemsttcorefonts4ow.png03:05
Paradoxxlinux newby here, need help with the installation of s/w03:05
alankelondurt, afther: http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/7067/afthermsttcorefonts4ta.png03:06
rob^Paradoxx, go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic package manager03:06
alankelondurt, any clue?03:06
rob^Paradoxx, enter your password when asked03:06
Paradoxxazurues is not there for me..03:06
tikkuParadoxx, www.ubuntuguide.org/#azureus03:06
durtalankelon let me see03:06
Paradoxxthat dosen't work either03:06
Paradoxx>.<03:06
rob^tikku, do not recommend ubuntuguide03:06
alankelondurt, ok =)03:06
tikkuwell it worked for me03:06
reikiwhen I go to teh System ->Administration -> Printing dialogue.... is that foomatic behind that or cups? Like... do I need to install a cups admin to be able to add printers using cups printing?03:06
Paradoxxshould i enable backports?03:07
Paradoxxsome1 told me i shouldn't03:07
tikkuParadoxx, have you done this? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories03:07
Bergcuberob^~ Can I ask why?  (Not to recommend u.guide, that is...)03:07
melfykrob: whats wrong with ubuntuguide?03:07
rob^because it breaks peoples systems03:07
HrdwrBoB!ubuntuguide03:07
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.03:07
rob^rbr03:08
QMarioRob^, don't you mean "breaks". ;)03:08
rob^grr03:08
deprave--i just wget'd oreilly bookshelf, http://oreillylibrary.hopto.org if anyone is interested. lemme know what you think: deprave@puresimplicity.net03:08
rob^brb03:08
QMarioOkay.03:08
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rob^QMario, thats what I said03:08
rob^brb03:08
QMarioTikku, ubuntuguide supports backports which have broken packages, and can "break" your system.03:08
QMarioRob^, I meant "'breaks'".03:09
unvsthe Software Updates tool only updates existing packages right? It won't install any thing extra?03:09
QMario Hee hee hee! 03:09
Paradoxxso how do i go about installing azurues then?03:09
GnonthgolAnybody knuw anything about spreadubuntu.org?03:09
MrGardenHoseManParadoxx: sudo apt-get install azureus03:09
Josh43howabout "breaks" (which may mean 'breaks', "Breaks", "'breaks'", or even breaks)03:10
rob^azureus isn't in the repos03:10
BergcubeGnonthgol~ Sounds sort of like sometihng for Hustler magazine.......03:10
deprave--i just wget'd oreilly bookshelf, http://oreillylibrary.hopto.org if anyone is interested. lemme know what you think: deprave@puresimplicity.net03:10
tikkuQMario, okay thanks03:10
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rob^break;  1. To strain apart; to sever by fracture; to divide with03:11
rob^      violence; as, to break a rope or chain; to break a seal;03:11
rob^      to break an axle; to break rocks or coal; to break a lock.03:11
Josh43deprave-- is spamming.. why?03:11
rob^that would about sum up ubuntuguide03:11
QMarioRob^, I knew what you meant. I was just attempting to be "funny".03:11
durtyou might try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, alankelon, and/or this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2097603:11
Bergcuberob^~ .......or spin on your head while wearing baggy clothes.....  :-D03:11
QMarioJosh43, who is deprave?03:12
Josh43yes, dont recommend it; it braks rocks or coal03:12
Josh43QMario; not sure03:12
reiki!cups03:12
ubotureiki: I give up, what is it?03:12
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rob^if you think of rocks/coal as your system, yes03:12
zeus1_ok guys having trouble with sound..can anyone help\03:12
alankelondurt, let me try03:13
QMarioJosh43, "Josh43: deprave-- is spamming.. why?" I was just asking.03:13
alankelondurt, the problem seems to occur only with firefox03:13
QMario!printing03:13
ubotuI don't know, QMario03:13
QMario!print03:13
ubotuQMario: I haven't a clue03:13
zeus1_I cant hear anything at all on Ubuntu...Im using plantronics dsp 500 usb headset...03:13
QMario!samba03:13
ubotusamba is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently03:13
Josh43deprave-- i just wget'd oreilly bookshelf, http://oreillylibrary.hopto.org if anyone is interested. lemme know what you think: deprave@puresimplicity.net <-- shown a couple times, and is not on topic03:13
Gnonthgol!eps03:13
ubotuGnonthgol: I give up, what is it?03:13
QMario!HP03:14
ubotuQMario: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:14
QMario!LPD03:14
alankelondurt, thx03:14
ubotuQMario: I don't know, could you explain it?03:14
shadeofgreyokay rob.  still broken03:14
QMario!Botsnack03:14
ubotuthanks qmario :)03:14
durtalankelon: any luck?03:14
rob^shadeofgrey, have you enabled dma?03:14
shadeofgreyhow do i do that?03:14
Gnonthgolhow to train the bot?03:14
zeus1_I cant hear anything at all on Ubuntu...Im using plantronics dsp 500 usb headset...can anyone help03:14
rob^!factroid03:14
uboturob^: Are you on ritalin?03:14
rob^grr03:15
BergcubeJosh43~ I got the same msg.  I guess that's what the /umode +CE is meant for.......03:15
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rob^!ubotu03:15
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/03:15
funkyHatwhat is the name of the desktop environment that litestep is based on?03:15
Gnonthgol!gnonthgol03:15
ubotuGnonthgol: Do they come in packets of five?03:15
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Gnonthgollol03:15
Josh43funkyhat: darkstep03:15
funkyHatthanks :)03:16
Josh43np :)03:16
funkyHatow, not in ubuntu repos03:16
kitsuneofdoomI have a friend who is an ubuntu user, and he wants to set up a Netgear w111 wireless card03:16
funkyHatis there anything customisable in the same way as darkstep that is?03:16
Josh43funkyhat: you mean the same as litestep?03:16
funkyHatyeah03:16
Josh43short answer: no03:17
Josh43which I hate03:17
durtkitsuneofdoom, then do it for him :)03:17
funkyHat:(03:17
Josh43yeah03:17
shadeofgreyi dont understand why all this is necessary03:17
kitsuneofdoomdurt: he neads a driver03:17
Gnonthgolkitsuneofdoom: yea, what is the problem03:17
Josh43there are some good onesm tho.. alot of litestep themes work like blackbox03:17
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kitsuneofdoomI tried searching for one, but I can't find any03:17
zeus1_I cant hear anything at all on Ubuntu...Im using plantronics dsp 500 usb headset...can anyone help03:17
funkyHatis afterstep similar in any way?03:18
Josh43not any more03:18
durtmaybe madwifi?03:18
Bergcubeshadeofgrey~ If it's any comfort:  It's impossible to overestimate the meaninglessness of virtually anything.03:18
Gnonthgolkitsuneofdoom: du you find a windows driver?03:18
durtif not then ndiswrapper, kitsuneofdoom03:18
funkyHatwell. i'll continue looking around tomorrow. i'm off03:19
zeus1_I dont hear any sound on ubuntu...can anyone help03:19
EasterSunshinecan someone suggest a program that will let me read every single tcp packet sent and received by a particular program?03:19
Gnonthgolzeus1_: I probably gor the same problem03:20
GnonthgolEasterSunshine: ethereal03:20
zeus1_Gnonthgol do u have a usb headset03:20
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Gnonthgolzeus1_: no, but i am missing drivers03:20
zeus1_oh03:21
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paulwhi guys, anyone here had problems with SiS sound drivers?03:21
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kitsuneofdoomsorry...I tried to close a tab in ksirc, and I closed ksirc03:22
Gnonthgolpaulw: Welcome to the club03:22
paulwthx03:22
kitsuneofdoomso, I need an ubuntu driver for a Netgear w11103:22
kitsuneofdoomany help?03:22
paulwi have that same device, haven't tried it yet with ubuntu03:22
kitsuneofdoomI've searched for drivers, and one forum told me to go here03:24
paulwdoes netgear post anything about it being compatible with linux?03:24
ProN00bdaaamn, i just did a apt-get remove tor tsocks (tsocks just got installed with apt-get install tor), then apt get reported an error, cannot load libtsocks.so, and that error comes up every time i try to start apt-get, how do i get that damn lib back, grml03:24
durtkitsuneofdoom: you can use your windows drivers with ndiswrapper03:24
Paradoxxgrrr03:24
Paradoxxsome1 help me please03:24
Gnonthgolkitsuneofdoom: you can use ndiswraper to install a windows driver if you cant find a linux, and probably your linux driver wont install on ubuntu because of kernet difrenses03:24
kitsuneofdoomdurt: my friend tried that, it doesn't03:24
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Paradoxxi just wanna install azureus...03:25
Paradoxxlol03:25
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Paradoxxi d/led the .tar03:25
Paradoxxunpackaged it03:25
Paradoxxnow what?03:25
ProN00bwaah, can someone help me ?03:25
zeus1_I need help with sound03:25
zeus1_sound how fix sound03:25
Josh43GARRRRR... Kernel Module version does *not* match driver. in Xorg.0.log.. the only search results are a german and a russian that have no idea how to fix it and get hardware accellerated 3d03:25
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durtkitsuneofdoom: what model?03:25
GnonthgolParadoxx: what heapens when you type sudo apt-get install azareuz ?03:25
tikkuazureus03:26
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ManLordMy maxtor onetouch external firewire drive doesn't get recognised in ubuntu, only if i select restart. not on a clean boot, there is no sda units popping up when i plug it in03:26
paulwhow do you install ndiswrapper?03:26
ManLordhelp anyone!03:26
Paradoxxcouldn't find package azurues03:26
ManLord?03:26
Josh43azureous03:26
tikkuits azureus03:26
Agrajagyou're both wrong03:26
zeus1_It wont let me change esd.conf !!! how do i get rid of the read only!! I wanna fix sound!03:26
Agrajagyeah03:26
kitsuneofdoomdurt: it's not mine...all my friend said was Netgear w111...03:26
Gnonthgolmy mispell03:26
Paradoxxthats what i have03:27
durthttp://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page03:27
Josh43lol - azureus, yes03:27
paulwto install azureus just get the linuz gtk file from here03:27
paulwhttp://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php03:27
ParadoxxJosh43:  thats what i have03:27
zeus1_help someone please i need some help badly03:27
kitsuneofdoomdurt: and I can't try it out because I don't have either the device or ubuntu handy03:27
Paradoxxpaulw i downloaded it already03:27
paulwand you'll need a SL for jre03:28
black_13i am getting the following error "Using /lib/modules/2.6.12.5/kernel/lib/zlib/zlib_inflate/zlib_inflate.ko insmod: cannot insert '/lib/modules/2.6.12.5/kernel/lib/zlib_inflate/zlib_inflate.ko' invalide module format (-1) Exec format error"03:28
paulwhow do i reply to someone specifically in chat?03:28
black_13what does that mean?03:28
zeus1_my sound isnt working...are there any pplz that can help03:28
Gnonthgolzeus1_: does it help to know that my sound worked perfektly in 4.10?03:28
durtkitsuneofdoom: http://www.google.com/search?hs=8bq&hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+netgear+wg111&btnG=Search03:28
zeus1_no03:28
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kitsuneofdoomdurt: thanks03:29
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durtkitsuneofdoom: err.. google: ubuntu netgear wg1103:29
fanopnaicpaulw: /msg <nickname> <text>03:29
fanopnaicblack_13: when do you get that?03:29
jsubl2!find netgear wg1103:29
Bergcubepaulw~ Perhaps "/msg SOMEONE your message text" will cook your noodle.03:29
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black_13fanopanic i am build an initila ramdisk03:30
zeus1_how do i make a file NOT READ ONLY03:30
black_13when i say modprobe isofs03:30
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black_13i am using the busybox based modprobe03:30
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'netgear wg11' returned no results.03:30
zeus1_anyone03:31
vladuz976anybody know good howtos to learn how to build websites?03:31
fanopnaicblack_13: uh oh, sorry, can't help you on that :)03:31
black_13yeah this is tough stuff03:31
EasterSunshinevladuz976: oreilly's web design bookshelf03:31
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zblachhi03:31
EasterSunshinezeus1_: sudo chmod a+x /your/file03:31
vladuz976EasterSunshine, is there an online version?03:31
EasterSunshinevladuz976: not legally03:32
zeus1_what is a+x eastersunshine03:32
vladuz976EasterSunshine, illegally?03:32
EasterSunshinezeus1_: sry, that should be a+w03:32
ProN00bpleeease, i need help03:32
paulwhowto install ndiswrapper?03:32
fanopnaicvladuz976: also lots of stuff on w3.org ... not exactly meant for teaching though.03:32
EasterSunshinezeus1_: a+w means allow writing for you, your group members, and everyone else03:32
zblachanyone here know how to use BeepMediaLibrary03:32
zblachpaulw, i'll help03:32
zeus1_thanks easter03:33
Bergcubevladuz976~ At www.wired.org there are some OK tutorials.  I think they call it "webmonkey" or something like that.03:33
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zeus1_but eastersunshine: it wont let me save the file03:33
Josh43bbl03:33
EasterSunshinezeus1_: open it again03:34
EasterSunshinezeus1_: after closing it, cause it was read-only mode at the time you opened it03:34
Paradoxxany1 kno an ez way to install jre?03:34
zeus1_that didnt work03:34
durtpaulw: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu03:34
EasterSunshinezeus1_: do `ls -l /your/file` and paste the output here, if and only if it is one line03:35
zeus1_-rw-rw-rw-  1 root root 153 2005-02-16 13:49 /etc/esound/esd.conf03:36
zeus1_that was my output03:36
EasterSunshinezeus1_: -rw-rw-rw- means everyone has write permissions...what are you using to edit it?03:36
zeus1_umm...the basic linux textpad I guess...I jsut double clicked it03:37
EasterSunshinezeus1_: in a console, do `sudo vi /etc/esound/esd.conf`03:38
EasterSunshinezeus1_: then press INSERT to edit, change it up however you want03:38
EasterSunshinezeus1_: and then to save changes and exit, hit ESCAPE then type ":wq"03:39
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zeus1_k gona try that03:39
holycowdude, your asking a newb to use vi?03:39
holycowwhat the f is wrong with you?03:39
zeus1_wait nvm03:40
zeus1_i saved it03:40
EasterSunshineholycow: i am a newb as well03:40
holycowzeus1_, do everything he says except make the first command 'sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf'03:40
zeus1_i already edited and saved in open office03:40
zeus1_the .conf file03:40
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EasterSunshine...wouldn't open office add in format tags...? correct me if i'm wrong...03:41
holycowzeus1_, you couldn't have done that as user03:41
fanopnaicnot if you just save it.03:41
holycowdid you start up gedit/oo as root?03:41
i58not unless you alter the format at save03:41
EasterSunshineholycow: i had him set the permissions as -rw-rw-rw-03:41
holycowah okay03:41
Agrajagwhy did you do that03:42
EasterSunshineAgrajag: i didn't know it was a config file...03:42
zeus1_ok h/o got to reboot03:43
zeus1_lets hope my sound will work03:43
zeus1_lol03:43
EasterSunshinezeus1_: wait one sec03:43
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EasterSunshineeh...03:43
pfp:/03:43
EasterSunshinesomeone have him set the permissions back to 644 when he returns...03:44
pfphmm, is the mode to quiet non-registered nicks still on?03:45
pfpjust wondering about the channel being so quiet03:45
paulwso is SiS onboard sound not supported out of the box with ubuntu?03:46
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paulwcan anyone help me find and install the driver that i need?03:46
TomT64|2what is the file to edit for the boot manager that appears when your computer starts up (manual edit)03:46
pfpTomT64|2: /boot/grub/menu.lst03:47
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TomT64|2thank you03:47
zeus1_Nooooo!!! I still have NO SOUND!!!03:47
zeus1_and it says "Failed to initialize HAL" whenever I reboot03:47
zeus1_nooooo!03:47
TomT64|2heh03:47
zeus1_is my ubuntu install screwed now...03:48
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i58zeus1_: nah, this isn't windows you know03:48
BergcubeBut the HAL9000 is for all practical meanings of the word _incapable_ of errors!03:48
holycowzeus1_, most things can be uninstalled and fixed, but i don't know how to fix this particular issue03:48
holycowthe only time you need to reboot is when you update the kernel03:48
zeus1_the guide to fixing sound said reboot03:49
Bergcubeholycow~ Not even then, if you insist.  (have I been told by men more experienced in the ways of linux than I am.)03:49
zeus1_ok well what does the HAL error do03:50
zeus1_does it really affect anything...because im running ubuntu linux fine ATM03:50
holycowhal stands for hardware abstraction layer03:50
zeus1_oh03:50
holycowit lets applications talk to the hardware in a uniform way03:50
zeus1_is that y03:50
zeus1_my sound isnt working03:50
pfpzeus1_: what have you done so far?03:51
holycowi'm not exactly sure about how hal works system wide, thats a little l33t for me03:51
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TomT64|2pfp: is there a visual editor for grub?03:51
tomaji'm having trouble connecting to X from any tty other than 7 (which is gnome) can someone help me fix it?03:51
pfpTomT64|2: not that i know of03:52
zeus1_pfp: I followed a guide to fix it but no work03:52
TomT64|2pfp: how can I see the partitions on my system03:52
fanopnaicTomT64|2: fdisk -l03:52
pfpzeus1_: ubuntuguide.org / .com ?03:52
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oscarhhi! is the php binary included in any package?03:53
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zeus1_uhh03:53
zeus1_http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly03:53
pfpzeus1_: that was a question, not a suggestion to use that guide :)03:53
zeus1_i did that03:54
tomaj!sound03:54
ubotuI heard sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/03:54
tomajzeus1_ did you check that page?03:55
zeus1_umm...its hard to understand03:55
zeus1_i dont get that one03:55
pfpzeus1_: what kind of sound trouble did you have before trying to fix it?03:55
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zeus1_same thing....there was just no sound03:55
zeus1_then i followed the guide on ubuntuguide.org and rebooted...still nothing works03:56
zeus1_and i get an error of HAL failed to initialize03:56
zeus1_when i boot up ubuntu03:56
DonLzeus1_, does your sound work on Windows?03:57
zeus1_yes03:57
zeus1_perfectly03:57
ManLordMy maxtor onetouch external firewire drive doesn't get recognised in ubuntu, only if i select restart. not on a clean boot, there is no sda units popping up when i plug it in03:57
ManLordMy maxtor onetouch external firewire drive doesn't get recognised in ubuntu, only if i select restart. not on a clean boot, there is no sda units popping up when i plug it in03:57
tomajzeus1_ type lspci -v | grep audio in terminal and post results03:57
ManLordopps03:58
DonLSorry if I came in late on this, zeus1_ ,do you know the sound card?03:58
ManLordhelp anyone!03:58
zeus1_no idk the sound card03:58
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SimpletonHey03:58
zeus1_tomaj: http://pastebin.com/34812503:59
SimpletonI'm reading on the "Breezy Badger" Goals site that Network Manager has been deferred, does that mean it will not be in breezy badger?03:59
Bergcubezeus1_~ I keep wondering...  Have you tried booting a live CD like Knoppix or "our own" Ubuntu live CD?  And if so, does the sound work THERE?03:59
zeus1_Yes I tryed ubuntu live CD and sound did NOT work03:59
tomajzeus1_ what sound card do you have? is it intregrated?04:00
zeus1_idk...h/o brb Ill go find out04:00
DonLBergcube, good idea04:00
zeus1_ok it is04:00
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fanopnaicit says nForce2 audio, so it will pretty definitely be integrated04:01
zeus1_Nvidia Soundforce and its integrated04:01
tomajfanopnaic i just want to know if that is the actual soundcard he is using04:01
fanopnaici see04:01
DonLThere might be something somewhere turned down or muted04:02
fanopnaicwell, my nForce 2 was working out of the box... sure it is unmuted?04:02
zeus1_how do i chek04:02
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DonLfanopnaic, snap!04:02
zeus1_do I turn up volume for "speaker" cuz its really low04:02
zeus1_cause im using a usb headset04:02
zeus1_plantronics dsp 50004:03
DonLzeus1_, that would be the problem methinks04:03
fanopnaicsnap?04:03
zeus1_i still do not here any sound04:03
DonLfanopnaic, just means we came to the same idea at almost the same time04:03
fanopnaicah ok :)04:04
pfpzeus1_: the usb headset and your integrated sound card have separate vol. controls04:04
zeus1_I see04:04
zeus1_how do I move the headset volume04:04
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SimpletonIs there anyway to link two audio channels together?04:05
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EasterSunshinezeus1_: have your tried alsamixer?04:05
zeus1_um i think04:05
fanopnaicSimpleton: you mean like overlay them?04:05
pfpzeus1_: if you rightclick on the speaker icon and choose open volume control, you get a mixer, from there you can (should) chose the sond device04:05
linuxgeekeryHello. Anyone know what the xorg devel package for apt is?04:05
SimpletonMy subwoofer and stero speakers on my laptop seem to only be able to be set independtly, and I can only set the speakers minus the subwoofer through the panel04:05
SimpletonNo, i mean the volume controls for them04:06
fanopnaicAhh.04:06
zeus1_what sound device...04:06
linuxgeekeryAnyone?04:06
Simpletonzeus, are you referring to me?04:06
zeus1_no...pfp04:06
pfpzeus1_: the nforce / the usb headset, you can see the available devices under File -> Change device04:07
i58linuxgeekery: sudo apt-cache search xorg04:07
pfplinuxgeekery: apt-cache search xorg development04:07
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paulwsomeone help me with alsamixer?04:08
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fanopnaicpaulw: what' s up?04:08
lJlolel I have an encrypted .wma file I want to put onto my sony clie, but I can't open it in linux (or open it on the clie)04:08
zeus1_pfp: I see the devices04:08
zeus1_pfp: they are not muted and I tryed messing around w/ tjem04:08
zeus1_still no luck04:08
pfpzeus1_: so you can see both the nvidia and the usb thing there?04:09
zeus1_Yes04:09
pfpgood, at least the drivers exist, then :)04:09
zeus1_when i mess with the volume, I can hear the crackling/noise of the volume adjusting in the headset04:10
zeus1_but i still cant hear my music04:10
zeus1_which is playing04:10
pfpand the music doesn't come out of the headset either?04:10
zeus1_no04:10
pfphmm04:10
zeus1_its supposed to come out of the headset04:11
durtyou guys have tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"? that always seems to help folks04:11
pfpah, so you want to use the h/set to listen to music04:11
zeus1_yes04:12
zeus1_it works perfectly on windows xp04:12
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pfpheh, but then you won't be using your integrated sound at all... i guess, if you'd connect something to the integrated sound card now, you'd hear the stuff playing04:13
Bergcube"It came out of the headset"....  Coming soon to a theatre near you!04:13
pfp:P04:13
Madpilot:P04:13
zeus1_so how do you make it use the headset04:13
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zeus1_for sond04:13
zeus1_sound04:13
CrackersKeenanwow... after a long battle I'm finally in the real room04:14
CrackersKeenanis it possible to explain in simple terms what happened to the other one?04:14
DonLCrackersKeenan, yes, me too. Can't use the old shortcut it seems04:14
CrackersKeenanyeah I finally worked out how to do the register thing04:15
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DonLI'd like to know too04:15
incubiifreenode was/is being spammed by bots04:15
Fanskapetanyone here have any knowledge of dovecot ?04:15
lJlolelhah are the spambots spamming each other?04:15
pfpzeus1_: hmm, you could disable the nvidia thing altogether (in bios) if you don't use it04:15
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Bergcubezeus1_~ Not to be rubbing chloric acid in the wounds or anything, but I used to have a set of USB speakers.  The sound from them was so sucky compared to normal speakers connected to the soundcard, I gave the USB speakers away.04:15
XorlevCrackersKeenan: Some nasty spambots were in #ubuntu (and others), so many channel owners made non-regged overflow channels.04:16
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DonLWhat do the people that set up these spambots hope to gain? Access to passwords?04:16
XorlevNon-regged being for those unregistered.04:16
XorlevDonL: There is no point.04:16
qt2damnit, anyone happen to know any sites which give instructions on how to wire a telephone jack to the telephone wire over here in the us?04:16
SimpletonHeh04:16
SimpletonOnly one line?04:16
SimpletonOr multiple lines?04:16
DonLXorlev, sorry, what do you mean no point?04:16
Simpleton@qt204:17
CrackersKeenanXorlev ok, cheers04:17
Bergcubeqt2~ You've got three wires to chose from, right?04:17
zeus1_the sound quality is very good frm this head set...04:17
XorlevDonL: Someone gets pissed, and they decide "lets get revenge on them!" And thus the creation of spambots.04:17
SimpletonPhone lines are 2 or 4, I haven't seen 304:17
zeus1_and pfp...I run the nvidia thing in windows along with the headset drivers and it works great04:17
qt2Simpleton, err, i believe it's one line to a bunch of different jacks in the house.04:17
XorlevProbably a gentoo user :P04:17
CrackersKeenanso are people saying you may as well stick to soundcard jack headsets rather than USB?04:18
Gnonthgolzeus1_: did you get sound?04:18
zeus1_no04:18
intelikeyok i'm ready one more time to try to make X run on this P1_133mmx box.    i've hit a snag though.   i installed xfce4 and xserver-xorg but when i try to run startxfce4 it errors out with "/usr/bin/startxfce4: line 45: exec: xinit: not found"  i did  apt-cache search xinit  and came up with two packages "xbase-clients & lg-issue93"  so i installed "xbase-clients"  but it didn't change anything.    so anyone want to advise me04:18
Simpletonok04:18
zeus1_not in linux04:18
DonLXorlev, thanks for the explanation04:18
SimpletonWell, I recently wired one in my room04:18
qt2Bergcube, theres 5 it seems.04:18
SimpletonAre you using leviton's quick snap jack?04:18
i58zeus1_: have you tried not using the headset just to see if that's the problem?04:18
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CrackersKeenanDoes anyone use a USB headset for skype?  Is the sound better than with the pink-and-green jacks that plug into soundcard04:19
CrackersKeenan?04:19
XorlevDonL: DDoS attacks usually follow the same philosophy. Kiddies with botnets get pissed at network for banning them, then they packet the network.04:19
zeus1_no i havent...theres ppl nearby and its loud04:19
mjrCrackersKeenan, a headset is rather a different thing than some crappy set of speakers; I'd probably get USB speaker headphones were I in the market for those now04:19
Simpleton@qt04:19
DonLXorlev, I have seen that before on Mirc04:19
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Gnonthgoli58: I can ashure you that the head set is working presisly as it is suposed to do when you unplug them04:20
qt2Simpleton, nah, it's the jack that was alraedy there, just trying to get it wokring.04:20
lJlolelis there an open source streaming-audio capture tool?04:20
i58zeus1_: you need to try using normal speakers and see if the card is working. if it is, then you at least know that the headset is the problem and can troubleshoot the right problem04:20
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zeus1_k i iwll04:20
zeus1_h/o04:21
CrackersKeenanmjr:  why is that?  do USB headsets sound better?  One would hope so given the price difference04:21
moomooboyhey guys any difference between breezy and 5.04?04:21
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AgrajagI don't see how they could, they offload all the sound processing to the cpu04:21
Simpletonqt2, try and figure out which ports on the in wall side of the jack corresponds to the center two pins where the phone cable will plug into to go to the phone04:21
Simpletonyou need to use those two pins04:21
XorlevDonL: I've lived it. Many a time ago I've run large IRC networks (which I later shut down)...had packet kiddies hang out on there. They'd try to bring their bots on the network, they'd get caught and I'd ban them all, and then my network would get packeted.04:21
mjrCrackersKeenan, haven't tried, frankly, but that's what people tell me and it's rather logical too, considering the low quality of the mic connection (I'm talking mic quality here, to clarify)04:22
CrackersKeenanmjr:  makes sense i guess.  I also hope the mic would be better.  People always say I sound crackly over Skype, and I wonder if that's partly due to the mic I use04:22
[NF] Quakei want to play sound files with xmms but when i start playing a file it just hangs up without errormessage etc.04:22
DonLXorlev, My wife uses Mirc, and goes to one room all the time. A kid with a vengeance got in there and they had a hell of a time getting rid of him04:23
qt2Simpleton, i'd probably understand what you were saying if i had it in my hands, but i'm actually trying to help someone else get theirs working over the phone :P04:23
mach_4is there an easy way to repair sound? it was working fine but after a restart it's all gone now. /dev/dsp doesnt link to anything, alsamixer doesnt even run, etc.. its all gone04:23
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XorlevDonL: Indeed.04:23
pussfellerlJlolel: streamripper04:23
zeus1_i58...speakers are on i hear NO SOUND04:23
i58[NF] Quake: dmesg | tail might show something04:23
SimpletonOh04:24
SimpletonWell04:24
i58zeus1_: ok so you know its the sound card.04:24
pfpzeus1_: what prog. do you use for playing?04:24
SimpletonBasically what I did was this04:24
lJlolelpussfeller, thanks04:24
SimpletonI looked at the phone wire that i was using for my phone04:24
zeus1_pfp: what do you mean04:24
Simpletonsaw the two wires it used04:24
Simpletonand used a multimeter to beep out which wires connected to which on the back04:24
Madpilotzeus1_: what format are you trying to play? (got all the relevant codecs installed?)04:25
pfpzeus1_: you are playing music, but with what program? xmms? Music Player (rhythmbox)?04:25
Simpletonafter that, i simply connected a wire to those two pins, and ran it down cellar, then i crimped on a new rj 11 end and plugged it into a splitter04:25
zeus1_Gnome  CD player....and XMMS04:25
CrackersKeenanwith USB headsets, are they plug and play?  the CD that comes with them usually has win/mac drivers.  What have people found with ubuntu?04:25
zeus1_and I also did the test sounds in the preferences04:25
reikiyikes!  I may just have to pay the money for this turboprint driver for my R200. Looks like they have it set to print on printable CDs. This might just work (otherwise I gotta boot to WinXP for this)04:26
mach_4hello, anyone? is there package for what I want? reinstalling esd, alsa, all that stuff... I tried reinstalling some packages that looked like that but it didnt change anything.. basically I want is what was done during install to be repeated, but just for the sound part, dont want a full reinstall04:26
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DonLzeus1_, does sound work when not using the headphones?04:26
[NF] Quakef'i58:  no it shows nothing04:26
zeus1_no...i turned on the speakers and its not working04:26
DonLzeus1_, I'm lost, I'm afraid, but I bet it turns out to be something simple04:27
lJlolelpussfeller, would audacity work too?04:27
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i58[NF] Quake: does the system sound work?04:27
mjrCrackersKeenan, they basically are plug'n'play, USB sound is pretty much standard. Breezy will have more sophisticated pnp sound handling though.04:28
zeus1_Ya...I have to jump through hoops to get sound working on this and it works perfect on windows...04:28
pussfellerlJlolel: not to rip pls streams04:28
mach_4zeus, do you have an audigy sound card?04:28
mjr(currently the pnp sound thingies should be registered, but not made default or anything, that'll be in breezy)04:28
i58zeus1_: what sound card do you have again?04:28
DonLzeus1_, don't lose hope. Sometimes you have to walk away for a while, sleep on it04:28
zeus1_Nvidia Sound Force04:28
DonLdidn't know Nvidia did sound.04:29
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mach_4onboard right?04:29
pfpzeus1_: have you tried using ALSA output in xmms, and selecting the output device there?04:30
mach_4not a separate sound card04:30
lJlolelpussfeller, what is a pls stream?04:30
SimpletonIs there a way to apt-get eclipse?04:30
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AzmodanI am looking for a wifi card supported out-of-the-box under Ubuntu.  Any suggestions ?04:30
mach_4simpleton, you dont need to install, just extract it and you're set04:30
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pfpzeus1_: i.e. preferences -> output plugin: ALSA -> configure -> audio device  -- there should be a list w/ both the internal card and the headset04:31
durtazmodan: look for one with a Prism chip set04:31
pussfellerlJlolel: i thot you were asking about internet radio streams04:31
Virtuallpussfeller, afaik pls is not a stream, but a playlist file, and stream is mp3 :04:32
Azmodandurt: Any manufacturer you suggest ?04:32
zeus1_uhh04:32
zeus1_i see the headset04:32
delltonyanyone here happen to own a motorola v220 phone and have it working with moto4lin?04:32
zeus1_I set the output plugin as ALSA04:32
pfpk, choose that, close the preferences, stop the current song and start it again04:32
lJlolelpussfeller, well there is a site but that doesn't have a specific url stream, i'm also trying to make a useful copy of this audiobook i have04:33
durtazmodan: the only card i have and experience with is the linksys wpc54g, which took a little tinkering to get working, but works fine now04:33
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durtany*04:33
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zeus1_its not working04:33
zeus1_i still hear nothing04:33
pussfellerlJlolel: what, you want to rip cds? kaudiocreator or grip04:33
Azmodandurt: Ok, thanks04:33
mach_4so does ubuntu have a repair mode for installation? how can I run the sound configuring thing again?04:33
SimpletonThanks mach_404:34
SimpletonDoes anyone know how to04:34
SimpletonGet the touchpad scrolling on the Inspiron 9300 working?04:34
pussfellerlJlolel: audacity is for editing and recording sound files, like cutting and pasting and tweaking mp3/wavs04:34
zeus1_pfp: what volume thing do i set it at04:35
zeus1_software volume contrl04:35
pussfellerlJlolel: streamripper is for saving those internet radio streams into individual mps04:35
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pussfellermp3s04:35
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drewfusis there any way to read an ext3 hard drive in windows04:36
^thehatsrule^matrox isnt bad04:36
MadpilotSimpleton: have you checked the wiki? lots of laptop stuff going on there right now04:37
delltonySimpleton, if you figure it out let me know i have been trying for ages to figure that one out04:37
Simpletondelltony04:37
^thehatsrule^matrox has nice hdds :p04:37
benplautwha's Matrox?04:37
pussfellerdrewfus: there is an ext3 explorer for windows04:37
SimpletonI just found something that looks like it it might do it04:37
delltonylink me please04:37
pfpzeus1_: depends, if the volume slider  on xmms doesn't work, software vol. control04:37
drewfuspussfeller, any idea where to find it?04:37
Simpletonhttp://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ << requires handediting of xorg config file04:37
maximausexplore2fs works for reading ext304:37
maximausfrom XP04:37
pussfellerthats the one04:37
persiadrewfus: There is a driver at http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm which works OK, but it's not perfect yet.04:38
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zeus1_didnt work pfp any other suggestions04:38
Bergcube^thehatsrule^~ I don't think the graphics card is bad.  But I still hate the company.04:38
maximaushttp://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm04:38
pussfelleri think i tried the driver but found it to be a hassle04:38
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drewfuspersia, what is the driver for? the explorer04:38
pfpzeus1_: hmmh... i'm running out of ideas, sorry04:39
Agrajagwhat, matrox doesn't make hdds04:39
Virtuallzeus1_, did it work before and then stopped working or it never worked?04:39
DonLzeus1_, the only thing I can think of is: go to any app that uses volume and see if there's a slider or a mute for it that's in the wrong place. Ive had to do that in the past04:39
persiadrewfus: IT allows you to use Disk Manager to access any ext2 or ext3 volumes, apparently by the same people who wrote the explorer.04:39
delltonySimpleton, thanks gonna go and compile it now and see what happens04:39
BergcubeNo bleeding amount of googling the net or searching the matrox.com website lets me find out the tech. specs for my MGA G400 AGP Dual Head.  Grrr...04:40
mach_4any ideas at all guys? at least where to look for guide on how to install sound from scratch? it was all working fine and now after a restart its gone, i get no such device and so on..04:40
maximausexplore2fs is a file manager not just a driver. ;)04:40
drewfuspersia, disk manager? so would i be able to transfer the files on the ext3 drive to a windows ntfs drive?04:40
drewfusmaximaus, so id be able to transfer those files04:40
drewfus?04:41
lJlolelpussfeller, one is classical.com streams, but they play that through a flash player, so i dont think i can use streamripper04:41
maximausYup04:41
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maximausI realized that persia gave a link to a driver, thought it was the same as mine.04:41
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lJlolelpussfeller, I also want to get the info from this audiobook I have (wma) so ican play it on my clie04:41
persiadrewfus: Yes, you would.  You first need to assign a drive letter.  The site has docs, although the explorer pussfeller and maximus mentioned might be easier.04:41
maximausexplore2fs works just fine, its just slow.04:41
maximausno install needed, just run the executable.04:42
drewfuspersia, maximaus i belive ill try the explorer04:42
drewfusunfortunately i believe im going to have to switch back to windows04:42
maximausYou'll be glad ya did. It works with little to complain about.04:42
drewfusmaximaus, windows?04:42
Virtualldrewfus, too bad ;04:43
maximauswhat about windows, drewfus?04:43
drewfusyeah i know im not proud but im running into network problems file problems and user problems04:43
drewfusmaximaus, you said there isnt much to complain about?04:43
persiadrewfus: what sort of problems?04:43
pussfellerthose kinda problems are easy to solve04:44
maximausOh the program explore2fs is what I was referring to. Windows has a litany of things to complain about, as does linux. :P04:44
drewfuspersia, all the mp3, aac, and so on music i have, then all the movies i have in multiple codecs that seem hard to get in linux04:44
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drewfusthen the whole root thing, my brother cant install anything04:44
DonLdrewfus, everyone to his own, but where are you going to get this kind of help on the other side?04:45
drewfusand my network, i cant get samba working04:45
pussfellerdrewfus: find the unnofficial ubuntu faq and install all the codecs, and all that stuff will play, and smoother than in windows04:45
maximausThe codecs are pretty easy, 'cept for the latest wm and wma. Sudo for your brother is super easy04:45
persiadrewfus: Enable the multiverse repository for the mp3s and most movies.  Some people find the totem-xine engine works for more codecs then totem gstreamer.04:45
Bergcubepussfeller~ I agree.  The girlfriend or wife pissed off due to spouse geekiness problems are a lot harder to fix.04:45
drewfuspussfeller, persia i did install them04:45
drewfusstill wont work for some reason04:45
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pussfellerand almost all samba errors have to do with passowrds and user names, at least in my experience04:46
mach_4can anyone read this? or is it just that nobody had any idea on where to get started to reconfigure sound?04:46
DonLBergcube, true, I still can't get my wife and kid to ditch windows04:46
drewfusmaybe ill just build a maching just for linux04:46
drewfusbecause its way more stable04:46
drewfusjust not as user friendly as windows04:46
pussfellerxp is pretty stable for me04:46
drewfusfor some people04:46
kevogodI accidently deleted Slashdot and I didn't make a backup.04:46
BergcubeDonL~ ROTFL!  Kids can be strongarmed, wife has to be tricked......04:46
drewfusmaybe my machine is subpar then04:47
pussfellerbut I never do anything on it xept play doom304:47
DonLlol04:47
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drewfuspussfeller, oh :-)04:47
maximaushttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositoriesj04:47
Madpilot!repos04:47
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:47
drewfusi am amazed at how much help i got on here, but i just dont have enough time to work on this that much04:47
persiadrewfus: You'll get better success from the wiki links than from ubuntuguide.04:47
pussfelleri hate hate hate watching movies on windows now that I am used to mplayer and xine04:47
pussfellerwhat a freakin disaster04:47
maximausthe link I gave has hints for configuring everything, including repositories, it's pretty much the ultimate guide. :)04:48
Madpilotubotu tell maximaus about ubuntuguide04:48
drewfuspussfeller, why whats the difference? hops and stuff or something?04:48
pussfellerand you still have the freakin codec problems on windows except with like wmv which is a freakin abortion04:48
persia!ubuntuguide04:48
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.04:48
Madpilotmaximaus: the wiki has far, far more info..04:48
kevogodUbuntuguide is to be linked to at all costs.04:48
pussfellerthe wiki is a mess04:48
drewfusi like the wiki04:48
pussfellerinfo is scattered like the sands of the seas04:49
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DonLdrewfus, it's taken me a bit to get to the point I'm at now with Linux and Ubuntu, but trust me, there's no going back now. I hate having to deal with the other stuff at work. Just find it doesnt' work as well04:49
kevogodUbuntuguide has everything upfront.04:49
drewfusthats what search is for04:49
zblachquestion. how to install BeepMediaLibrary plugin?04:49
mach_4hello can somebody at least confirm that you can read this?04:49
drewfusi miss some of my games though04:49
bpucciomach_4: yes, I can read you04:49
zblachmach_4, pong.04:49
pussfellermach_4: no cant read this04:49
mach_4thanks04:49
drewfusim going through battelfield withdrawl04:49
zblachlol. i went through HL2 withdrawl last week.04:50
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zblachwasn't fun04:50
drewfuswhat about dual boot, does that work well?04:50
mach_4just surprised I got nobody could help me04:50
zblachattacked the neighbours cat with a crowbar. they weren't too happy04:50
Bergcubedrewfus~ I hear you.  I remember my months of Myst withdrawal......04:50
Simpletonis it possible to restart the entire x server to reflect changes to xorg.conf without restarting completely04:50
kevogodI went through FreeBSD withdrawl. It wasn't fun.04:50
DonLdrewfus, been there. Almost gave up a few times, but I learned a lot and that's worth something. I wouldn't have learned dick with the other04:50
Madpilotpussfeller: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation  <-- has links to pretty much everything new users should need, and lots of extras04:50
drewfusdoes anyone on hear now use dual boot?04:51
SimpletonI do, why?04:51
pussfellerbut the ubuntuguide has step by step directions to meet users needs, not instruct them about philosphy04:51
DonLUsed to04:51
drewfusdoes it work well?04:51
SimpletonIt works fine04:51
drewfuson both systems?04:51
NeoFaxAnyone have a acx111 wifi card with wpa working?04:51
SimpletonYes04:51
SimpletonBrb04:51
Bergcubedrewfus~ Can having three separate computers and an KVM switch count as triple boot?  :-)04:51
persiapussfeller: Yes, but many times users follow the steps in ubuntuguide, get confused, and end up with a system that doesn't work the way they expect.  Education is more useful than prescription.04:51
DonLIf you don't mind rebooting every time you want to change04:52
drewfusi may have to set that up, im sure i have enough space and ram04:52
drewfusid say so Bergcube04:52
Madpilot!dualboot04:52
ubotudualboot is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo04:52
Madpilotdrewfus: ^^^04:52
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kevogodI still don't understand how people could get confused with Ubuntuguide.04:52
dylanrogerswhat will be different or changed in breezy that i should know about?04:52
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pussfellerkevogod: ubuntu attracts alot of noobies....04:53
kevogod!breezy04:53
Dragon513!breezy04:53
drewfusso install windows first, or should i partition then install windows?04:53
kevogoddylanrogers: Type !breezy04:53
dylanrogers!breezy04:53
zblach!breezy04:54
bpucciodylanrogers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals has some information04:54
pussfelleryes install win first, or rerun grub after you have installed win and booted with a live cd04:54
drewfus!breezy04:54
DonLdrewfus, I think Windows has to go first, hog that it is04:54
bpuccio!breezy04:54
Dragon513someone alreaday said that 16 seconds ago < << < this is all i get when i tiype breezy !04:54
drewfusi cant partition after installing windows can i?04:54
zblachare you typing it 16 seconds apart?04:54
pussfellerdrewfus: win will rewrite the mbr on install04:54
dylanrogersthanks guys04:54
Lie-AlgebraHi, I am using qtparted to create a new partition (one single HDD :dual boot system) on free space I have just created by resizing another partition; the problem is that  the status of the device  appears to be  busy, how am I supposed to get it formatted ?04:54
Dragon513breezy!04:54
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persiakevogod: As an example, in the "fixing sound" section, it suggests doing very odd things to esd, rather than using the ubuntu supplied dmix config (in /usr/share/doc/libasound2/examples) or any of the explanations on the wiki (ask ubotu about sound for a link)04:54
EasterSunshineguys open a privmsg with ubotu and type in "tell me about breezy"04:54
Bergcubedrewfus~ Make a partition for Win first, then install Win, then install Ubuntu on the remainder of the disk.  It'll install grub automagically.04:54
Dragon513!breezy04:54
ubotu[breezy]  the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/04:54
pussfellerubuntu will rewrite the mbr on install too, for that matter04:54
drewfusbefore installing win do i just make one partition the entire drive04:55
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Bergcubedrewfus~ You CAN, but then Ubuntu has to resize the win.part. and that can be risky / lossy.04:55
DonLdrewfus, if you have a running version of Windows (running for a while,) do a defrag just before your Ubuntu install04:55
MadpilotDragon513: ubotu will tell ppl off if they type something too soon after someone else has just done it. not sure what the delay is set to04:55
SimpletonBah04:55
intelikeyok ubuntu specific question here,  what CLI app is used to configure X ?04:55
Lie-Algebradrewfus, the best is : make a clean install of Win on a HDD wich should not be totally formatted, then  install ubuntu on the remaining space :)04:56
Dragon513oh ic...04:56
pussfellerdoes ubuntu resize now, without destroying data?04:56
SimpletonDo I have to load a module to activate synaptics04:56
Dragon513thank you Madpilot : )04:56
persiaintelikey: I use `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`04:56
kevogodpussfeller: I wouldn't count on it.04:56
drewfusshould i just go ahead and make two partitions, half each?04:56
kevogodmake a backup first04:56
Lie-Algebrapussfeller, I have just resized my win parition using sysrecuecd, have a look ;)04:56
intelikeydpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <--- that's it  thanks persia04:56
pussfellerdrewfus: what i do is make 3 partitions, one for win, one for /boot and one for /04:56
Lie-Algebrasysrescue*04:57
MadpilotSimpleton: do you mean a synaptic touchpad, or the Synaptic Package manager in Ubuntu?04:57
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DonLpussfeller, I've never had a problem as long as I did a defrag JUST before. Then Linux uses the open space04:57
intelikeyis it ok to idle here and help a little as i can ?04:57
Bergcubepussfeller~ I trid it, just to see how it worked out.  (With an "empty" win install.)  Worked fine, but still resizing a partition with data on IS risky, and you should have a backup.04:57
drewfusso half win quarter /boot quarter /?04:57
kevogodalthough like it says with QtParted, NTFS resizing is still in testing.04:57
persiaintelikey: Please.04:57
SimpletonThe touchpad, i'm trying to get my scroll panel to work, but i'm either not modifying xorg.conf correctly, or synaptics isnt running04:57
Lie-Algebradepends drewfus on your use...04:57
Madpilotdrewfus: your /boot only needs to be 5Gb or so04:57
Simpleton@Madpilot04:57
drewfusoh ok04:57
kevogodSo do not cry if it deletes all of your worms04:57
pussfellerdrewfus: easiest to make win the first and the boot 2 and then the swap and then the /04:57
persiadrewfus: You don't need more than ~50MB for /boot04:58
EasterSunshineomg, the ubuntu error sound scared me half to death...04:58
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DonLkevogod, lol04:58
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pussfellerno boot doesnt need to be more than like 100 mb max04:58
MadpilotSimpleton: search the wiki, I saw something there about Synaptics touchpads04:58
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drewfuswhat if i partition half for windows and leave the rest alon until install, will it figure it out?04:58
_lui_hello people04:58
Madpilotsorry, mistaking /boot for /root on linux - my mistake (need to actually *read* what I'm replying to...)04:59
benplautEasterSunshine, i have mine set to HAL9000's "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid i can't do that."04:59
Bergcubedrewfus~ Yes.  Ubuntu can do it by itself.04:59
pussfellerbenplaut: you have that as a wav?04:59
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drewfuswell i need to go, ill be back someday04:59
pussfellerthats cool :)04:59
zeus1_Ummm ok that was REALLY weird04:59
drewfusthanks you guys ill read up on dual boot05:00
zeus1_the internet just randomly stopped working, i rebooted ubuntu and it works05:00
intelikeyi like about  65m /boot ext2   6g / rieserfs          or 1g / ext3  with no /boot and  4-6g /usr      but  that is my preferances...05:00
benplautpussfeller: yeah, i found it on linuxforums... it's really cool05:00
DonLthe sound?05:00
zeus1_no05:00
Virtuallzeus1_, did you check the cable? ;)05:00
zeus1_internet05:00
Madpilotbe back later, need to get food...05:00
zeus1_lol05:00
zeus1_and05:00
zeus1_the HAL error was gone when I took out my music cd05:00
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zeus1_interesting no?05:01
DonLSometimes stuff just happens05:01
_lui_seveas r u here*?05:01
Simpletondelltony, are you still here?05:01
EasterSunshineoh crap i just realized that i can't play mp3's :(05:01
kevogodAre there any other Linux distributions that default to the sudo model of security?05:01
BergcubeTalking about partitions....  What exactly are these 5% of the partition that the install tool usually reserves to system use?  What system use?  And does it have to be like that on ALL partitions, or just (perhaps) / ?05:01
persiaEasterSunshine: Why not?05:01
EasterSunshinepersia: i dunno, guess i never relized taht everyone i listened to was ogg...05:02
Virtuall:(05:02
persiaBergcube: It's to allow root to fix things when some user fills the filesystem 100%.  It is adjustable when creating the filesystem, although smaller percentages are not recommended.05:02
bpucciokevogod: I think OSX does, it's not a linux, but a unix05:02
Simpletonbrb05:02
DonLkevogod, don't know for sure, but I've really learned to like it05:02
EasterSunshinekevogod: kubuntu05:02
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kevogodEasterSunshine: :-)05:03
sanmarcosis wikipedia working for anybody *?05:03
kevogodbpuccio: Yes, I know OS X does.05:03
zeus1_idk05:03
zeus1_Still no sound :(05:03
DonLI use it sometimes, sanmarcos05:03
Bergcubepersia~ Ah.  I sort of thought so.  Thanks.05:03
Virtuallzeus1_, tried rm -rf / and reinstall ubuntu? :( sometimes that really can help05:03
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zeus1_reinstall??????????????/05:04
zeus1_i dont see how that will change anything05:04
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EasterSunshinethx, persia05:04
persiaVirtuall: There's never a good reason for rm -rf /!!!  Even reinstalling doesn't require this.05:04
Virtuall(but if it doesn't then it feels even worse)05:04
Virtuallpersia, yes, it doesnt _require_, but some mess can be left if you don't05:05
sanmarcosDonL: I asked if its online, does it work for oyu?05:05
EasterSunshinerm -fr / is good for nothing05:05
_lui_to install the java for firefox, help please :)05:05
nerdy2Virtuall: then get rid of that mess05:05
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nerdy2this is very easy05:05
kevogod!quick-java05:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, quick-java is Quick And Dirty Java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file] 05:05
DonLsanmarcos, I just go to the website, and it works05:05
Virtuallrm -rf / is good for everything ;)05:05
persiaVirtuall: Reformatting will clean everything - rm-rf / will usually fail part way through.05:05
zeus1_there has GOT to be another way...i dont see how reinstalling ubuntu will fix the prob05:06
intelikeyok in  Select the X.Org server modules that should be loaded by default.  is "GLcore" or "v4l" needed ?05:06
kevogodOh wait, he fixed the Java package.05:06
persiazeus1_: You have no sound, right?  What have you tried?05:06
Virtuallpersia, well, i didnt mean actually "rm -rf /" i meant booting from somewhere else and removing everything except /home /root etc.05:06
nerdy2zeus1_: no reinstalling won't fix anything05:06
intelikeyi know i don't need v4l  but what is GLcore ?05:07
BergcubeWhen I do a complete re-install I usually boot the UBCD ( http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ ) and wipe the disk, then repartition and boot the install CD.05:07
persiaintelikey: It's the core support for OpenGL.  You probably want this if you have a newer graphics card.05:07
intelikeyok then no :)05:07
Virtuallzeus1_, well it did for me. not sure it was the same problem but it looked the same05:08
pussfellerdoes doom3 play well on linux05:08
DonLzeus1_, is there a spare slot in your computer for a sound card?05:08
intelikeyhehhe this is a p1-133mmx with isa cards persia :)05:08
EasterSunshinepussfeller: nope05:08
Bergcubepussfeller~ Pink Floyd plays best, no matter platform or player.05:08
zeus1_hmm05:08
persiaintelikey: Yes, you probably don't want GLcore: even mesa would swamp you.05:08
tomaji'm having trouble connecting to X from any tty other than 7 (which is gnome) can someone help me fix it?05:09
EasterSunshinepussfeller: some claim it does, but those guys are crazy, theres no way you can get doom3 working on your first try05:09
kevogodI strangely find myself listening to Pink Floyd.05:09
zeus1_donl: ya but we dont have any05:09
pussfellerEasterSunshine: i thot id released it for linux05:09
BergcubeI usually find myself listening to Pink Floyd.  :-)05:09
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zeus1_persia: I have tried numerous techniques on forums and sites...to no avail05:09
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EasterSunshinepussfeller: oh yeah...i did. i thought you were trying cedega05:09
DonLzeus1_, I know it sounds like a last resort, but I never could get my on board sound working. Just happened to have a SB Live card nearby that I could commadeer05:09
persiatomaj: Have you looked in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?05:09
pussfelleri listened to enough pink floyd as a teen to make up for the rest of my life05:10
tomajill check it out persia05:10
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dylanrogerswill beagle be included by default in breezy?05:10
DonLpussfeller, me too, and I'm still not tired of it05:10
zeus1_but i dont have one...05:10
BergcubeI guess _I_ got hooked for good.....05:10
zeus1_there has got to be a way to fix this05:10
DonLzeus1_, is there a way to borrow a card from someone just to try?05:11
kevogoddylanrogers: I do not think it will be.05:11
Virtuallzeus1_, of course there is, just nobody knows it ;(((05:11
dylanrogerskevogod, that blows05:11
persiazeus1_: Does the kernel load sound drivers when you boot?05:11
kevogoddylanrogers: You will still be able to use it.05:11
zeus1_uhh05:11
intelikeyok i use SVGATextMode on this box.   i can get a V-sync and H-sync setting from there will that work for X-org ?05:11
dylanrogerskevogod, can i install it in hoary05:11
zeus1_idk05:11
kevogoddylanrogers: Yes, you can.05:11
zeus1_DonL: no, there is not...05:11
vader1102zeus1; when Seveas comes in ask him... he knows a whole lot05:11
dylanrogerskevogod, would you mind helping?05:12
tomajpersia: where is the file that's used by the startup launcher in gnome?05:12
kevogoddylanrogers: OK, one second.05:12
dylanrogersthanks05:12
persiatomaj: Startup Launcher?05:12
DonLzeus1_, You know, I think I could have got the on board system working if I played with it some more, but the other card was the quickest route for me.05:12
EasterSunshinezeus1_: if you're still stuck with ssound, catch crimsun, the channel sound guru05:12
kevogoddylanrogers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto?highlight=%28beagle%2905:12
dylanrogerskevogod, thans05:13
dylanrogersthanks05:13
intelikeywhat country is ubuntu based in ?05:13
persiazeus1_: in a terminal, run `lsmod | grep snd`.  Does anything show?05:13
tomajpersia: in sessions > startup programs05:13
kevogoddylanrogers: Pay close attention.05:13
dylanrogerskevogod, it will not be installed in hoary....said it cant be05:13
tomajpersia: well system > preferences >sessions... in the gnome menu05:14
kevogoddylanrogers: You will have to use Debian packages.05:14
dylanrogerskevogod, why wont beagle be installed by default in breezy?  thats disappointing.05:14
vader1102what is Beagle?05:15
DonLintelikey, someone correct me if I'm wrong. The guy who created Ubuntu is from South Africa. I believe now he lives in London, and his company is based on the Isle of Man05:15
dylanrogersvader1102, this awesome search tool05:15
kevogod!beagle05:15
ubotuit has been said that beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto05:15
zeus1_uhh05:15
zeus1_h/o05:15
zeus1_persia: yes...05:15
kevogoddylanrogers: http://beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall05:15
vader1102ok, just wondering, seen it being asked about but never seen it in action05:15
kevogoddylanrogers: That link may be a little easier.05:16
persiatomaj: MY apologies.  I cannot find the config file right now.05:16
dylanrogershas anybody heard that beagle wil be installed by default?05:16
dylanrogersin breezy?05:16
kevogoddylanrogers: It is still in testing, as well as mono.05:16
persiazeus1_: Excellent.  Your sound hardware is supported, just not working.  Next, if you run `alsamixer` do any of master, pcm, or front show a little MM at the bottom of the column?05:17
tomajpersia: that's alright :)05:17
kevogoddylanrogers: What does it matter if is installed by "default"? You will still be able to install it.05:17
dylanrogerskevogod, once it comes out of testing, will it be?05:17
dylanrogerskevogod, im a noob05:17
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EasterSunshinewhat is the standard way of inputting utf8 in X, especaially cjk chars?05:17
kevogoddylanrogers: Not Breezy, but the next release of Ubuntu perhaps.05:17
EasterSunshineand what is the standard way of inputting utf8 in terminals or consoles?05:18
kevogodBreezy is relatively close to release.05:18
persiaEasterSunshine: It depends on which of CJK you use.  I use uim-anthy for Japanese, and am very satisfied.05:18
dylanrogersah05:18
hardw1rehello :)05:18
zeus1_persia: ya05:18
kevogodIt comes out October 5th I believe.05:18
zeus1_wait05:18
zeus1_I dont see a front05:19
persiazeus1_: OK.  That's the problem.  Using the arrow keys, move the the column with MM, and press the M key.  Keep doing this until all of master, pcm, and front have OO at the bottom.05:19
zeus1_where is front05:19
zeus1_master and pcm are not MM05:19
zeus1_but i dont see front05:19
vader1102<---waiting for his Ubuntu cd's to appear in the mail05:19
dylanrogershow did you guys learn to use linux so well?05:19
persiazeus1_: No "Front" just means you don't have that channel (5.1 or 7.1 surround).  It's not a problem.05:19
zeus1_ok well05:19
zeus1_master and pcm are not MM05:19
vader1102playing with it and LOTS of reinstalls05:19
zeus1_so that cant be the prob05:20
_Ron_dylanrogers: They more than likely work with it every day =)05:20
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kevogoddylanrogers: Downloading lots of ISOs and messing up systems.05:20
persiazeus1_: OK.  And both master and front are >50%05:20
dylanrogerskevogod, define messing up05:20
zeus1_what?05:20
zeus1_master is 10005:20
vader1102kevigid.....you are right lol05:20
dylanrogerskevogod, i could do sudo rm -rf / and that would do it05:20
zeus1_pcm is 8405:20
DonLTotally crapping out systems and trying to get them back running again05:20
tomajpersia: i can't seem to find anything related, but im not sure what i'm looking for lol any tips?05:20
persiazeus1_: Sorry - my misthought.  Both master and PCM have volumes above 50%?  Sometimes there are issues with low volume settings.05:21
zeus1_yes they are05:21
Adrossanyone here use wired for sound editing?05:21
zeus1_persia : yes they are05:21
tomajzeus1_ are you sure the problem isnt with your usb headphones/speakers?05:21
dylanrogerswill breezy have good wireless support or does ubuntu hoary already?05:21
tomajzeus1_ have you tried normal speakers or headphones?05:21
vader1102Adross, not yet... will sometime in the next week or 205:21
zeus1_tomaj: they work fine in windows05:21
persiatomaj: The general X sesssion is in .xsession, but I would look in ~/.gnome2 first.  I'll look for it again.05:21
Adrossvader1102: kk05:21
zeus1_tomaj: I tryed speakers...doesnt work05:22
vader1102dylanrogers, it does now05:22
EasterSunshineis it just me or is the volume meter on totem movie player in an inverse logarithmic scale?05:22
DonLzeus1_, do your headphones have their own volume control - drawing at straws05:22
dylanrogersvader1102, ah....so if i was to go outside with my hoary laptop or to a hotspot everything would work automatically?05:22
zeus1_DonL: yes but ive been messing with them, nothing works05:22
persiazeus1_: OK.  Do you know that your speakers or headphones are working, and are connected to the right jack?05:22
vader1102what card?05:22
tomajpersia: the problem is that when i try to run azuerus throught DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/azureus i get an error saying that connection was refused to the xserver05:22
persiatomaj: I found it: ~/.gnome2/session.05:22
vader1102I run the dwl-g650 and it worked out of the box05:22
tomajzeus1_ usb is usually a bit more tricky in linux than in windows so make sure the problem isnt with that05:23
tomajthanx persia05:23
zeus1_persia: I know there working in windows so idk05:23
dylanrogersvader1102, i dont know what card05:23
persiatomaj: Ah: that sounds like an x permissions error.  The method I used to use for that is widely considered harmful, and I haven't found a new one.  I probably can't help with that.  Sorry.05:23
tomajpersia where did you find yours?05:24
vader1102dylanrogers, the athros chips have decent support05:24
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DonLzeus1_, did you plug your speakers in when the system was off or on?05:24
persiatomaj: my what?05:24
tomajpersia: your method for solving the permissions problem05:24
persiatomaj: Some old docs that came with SunOS 4.1.4: it's not useful current information.05:25
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dylanrogersvader1102, im a linux noob and am frankly REALLY nervous about learning it....i dont necessarily want to mess up my system either.  is there a good linux tutorial for a noob like me?  im a windows expert but just got into linux05:25
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zeus1_DonL: they were already plugged in...and have been for quite a long time05:25
tomajpersia: ok dasted dard nakone05:25
tomajdastet*05:25
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: do you live near a library?05:25
JBLoudG20what should I look for when my mp3 player (amaroK) does not output sound, but xine works fine? It was working earlier, then it just stopped05:26
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: like a real one with physical tangible books05:26
vader1102dylanrogers, I need to figure out how to get ubotu to give you the link05:26
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DonLzeus1_, was your system off or on when they were plugged. Seems to me I read somewhere that linux usb works better when it's hot plugged05:26
persiadylanrogers: Try a livecd: that lets you play with linux without installing it.05:26
tomaj!livecd05:26
ubotutomaj: No idea05:26
tomajdamn05:26
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kevogodIs anyone having trouble installing the libgda2-1 package?05:26
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vader1102!tell dylanrogers about wireless05:27
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nicksirZcan someone help me please, everytime i log into KDE Control Center it kicks me out and i can't change anything i would need to in administrator mode05:27
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, i do not live near a library05:27
vader1102ha....got it lol05:27
EasterSunshineubotu livecd is useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it. grab one from the download page at www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.05:27
ubotuokay, EasterSunshine05:27
tomajdylanrogers: just so you know the livecd might not work whilst the real thing does, that happened for me, but it's at your own risk05:28
dylanrogerstomaj, yes i know05:28
zeus1_DonL: umm, it was off I think05:28
dylanrogerstomaj, do you know of a good tutorial tho05:28
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EasterSunshinedylanrogers: maybe take out book about linux or debian (ubuntu is debian based so most of it applies)05:28
kevogodWhen I try to install libgda2-1, it says that libgda2-3 is to be installed.05:28
tomajdylanrogers: whta for?05:28
tomajwhat do you want to learn?05:28
paulwstill having sound problems with SiS 7012 onboard soundcard, anyone wanna take a stab at it?05:28
DonLdylanrogers, if you welcome the chance to get your hands dirty and the ability to make changes, you'll be smitten05:29
EasterSunshineubotu no livecd is useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.05:29
ubotuokay, EasterSunshine05:29
nicksirZEvery time i log into KDE COntrol Center as Administrator Mode it kicks me back out to the menu, please help05:29
vader1102then your board wouldn't work paulw05:29
persia!livecd05:29
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, livecd is useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at http://www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.05:29
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EasterSunshinenicksirZ: that is a commonly known bug. in a console, do `kdesu kcontrol`05:29
dylanrogerstomaj, general use and learning the terminal like a jedi master lol05:29
nicksirZoh, well thank you05:29
EasterSunshinenicksirZ: that will automatically put you in everything as root, or as administrative mode05:29
dylanrogerstomaj, i also want to know where everything is under /05:30
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nicksirZthat is definitely some easter sunshine05:30
EasterSunshinenicksirZ: sry, not console, in a Konsole*05:30
nicksirZi knew what you meant ;d05:30
JBLoudG20ok so amarok wont give me sound, but everyhting else works fine05:30
DonLdylanrogers, google can be your friend05:30
JBLoudG20i checked amarok, and its not muted05:30
tomajdylanrogers: the best way would be to get a second hand hdd install it and ask questions to learn the specifics, it can be intimidating at first but you'll learn it as you go, im still relatively new05:30
EasterSunshineDonL: you hardly get good linux intro help from google05:30
dylanrogerstomaj, so just get on an IRC channel like this one, eh? lol05:30
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EasterSunshineDonL: not that the books are any better05:30
zeus1_google solves all....05:31
DonLEasterSunshine, I've had wonderful luck for some reason05:31
dylanrogerszeus1_, google is just lots of pages, not much relevancy05:31
vader1102usually05:31
tomajdylanrogers: all you really need to know is that all your stuff is in /home/nickname05:31
EasterSunshinegoogle is a big reference book, not an introduction tutorial05:31
tomajdylanrogers: actually this irc channel specifically ;)05:31
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DonLEasterSunshine, mind you, some of the stuff on the net is a bit old05:31
persiadylanrogers: There is a lot of useful documentation under /usr/share/doc05:31
dylanrogerstomaj, so i dont need to learn the guts?05:32
kevogodall of my stuff is in ~/05:32
EasterSunshineDonL: some of the stuff on the internet is older than i am05:32
tomajdylanrogers: not with ubuntu, at least not straight away05:32
DonLI think the most useful help I've had is Ubuntu's web site05:32
DonLEasterSunshine, lol05:32
dylanrogerstomaj, ok....i mean, im kinda just using ubunbu for general use05:32
vader1102DonL, agreed05:32
zeus1_godd if i could get my sound working i would be so happ05:32
zeus1_happy05:32
tomajdylanrogers: you will learn the guts as you go05:32
dylanrogersDonL, im just kinda scared with the guts of linux and the terminal05:32
dylanrogerstomaj, ok dude...thanks ;)05:32
DonLdylanrogers, done any dos?05:32
tomajdylanrogers: i recomend install manuals!! that helped me a lot05:32
kevogoddylanrogers: Then use *BSD if you are scared with the guts of Linux.05:33
persiazeus1_: Have you tried making sound with alsaplayer?  Sometimes this works even when everything else is broken, and can help confirm your hardware is workng.05:33
EasterSunshinekevogod: isn't bsd more intimidating that linux?05:33
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Madpilotdylanrogers: with Ubuntu you don't need to have much contact with the "guts", not in depth. (most of the time, that is...)05:33
zeus1_where is alsa playe05:33
kevogodEaserSunshine: Well, he was talking about the guts!05:33
Xyleneis colony 3 still available? i can't find any mirrors with it05:33
tomajdylanrogers: download the debian and gentoo install manuals, that goes over a lot of stuff05:33
dylanrogersDonL, i have done dos05:33
dylanrogersDonL, i am a windows master05:33
JBLoudG20any ehlp with muted mp3's?05:34
DonLYou'll feel right at home. No problem05:34
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persiazeus1_: alsaplayer-alsa is in universe.05:34
dylanrogersDonL, but its not exactly the same.05:34
zeus1_dylan dont be scared...i am a complete NOOB at linux just installed it today...im starting to get the hang of the terminal05:34
Madpilotdylanrogers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands <-- basic command line stuff05:34
dylanrogersDonL, unix prompts are kinda unwelcoming05:34
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DonLNo. Commands are different, but hey. You learned Dos didn't you?05:34
dylanrogersMadpilot, thanks for the link05:34
DonLForget the backspace. lol05:35
tomajlol my first distro was gentoo, THAT was a mistake05:35
MadpilotJBLoudG20: do you have mp3 codecs installed?05:35
EasterSunshinewhat pakcage should i install to allow me to input utf8 cjk chars into X? like scim or uim or something?05:35
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JBLoudG20Madpilot, yes everything was working fine like an hour ago, then it just stopped05:35
dylanrogersDonL, yes i learned dos05:35
kevogodGentoo is the simplest of the Linux distributions.05:35
zeus1_not what I heard kevogod....05:35
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: unix prompts a lot more welcoming than dos prompts05:35
dylanrogerskevogod, but the install is a shitpile05:35
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dylanrogersEasterSunshine, how is that?05:35
tomajkevogod yeah, if you know about linux lol05:35
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zeus1_my friend says its gonna take 2 DAYS to install05:35
MadpilotJBLoudG20: ouch. no idea...05:36
JBLoudG20it shows that its playing in amarok, there just isnt sound coming out05:36
zeus1_gentoo05:36
kevogodWell, not simple as in easy.05:36
nicksirZEasterSunshine: uhm, that stopped working now, kdesu kcontrol isn't unlocking it now05:36
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: you can't do jack from a dos console...05:36
persiaEasterSunshine: which language do you want to use?05:36
MadpilotJBLoudG20: checked the speaker plugs & cables? ;)05:36
tomajkevogod, i got like a terminal and i was like uhh ok so i learned all the terminal commands that way at least05:36
kevogodBut simple as in fast and to the point05:36
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, yes i know05:36
DonLdylanrogers, When I made my first install back five or so years ago, I missed the prompt that asked me if I wanted to take over the whole drive. I dumped everything off the family computer. I was sleeping in the doghouse for weeks05:36
drewfushow do i burn an image?05:36
EasterSunshinepersia: hiragana, kanji, and katakana05:36
drewfusbesides using a lighter05:36
kevogod(granted compiling KDE does take ages)05:36
JBLoudG20madpilot, lol yes, the sound works fine in xine and in the system, just not for my mp3s05:36
dylanrogersDonL, yeah i can see that....lol i dual booted my sys with WinVista and Ubu05:37
tomajkevogod yeah its definately lean05:37
EasterSunshinenicksirZ: its time to ask in #kde, my knowledge ends here05:37
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drewfuscan anyone give me a hint to burning an iso05:37
vortekwhats the latest version of ubuntu05:37
EasterSunshinenicksirZ: or even #kubuntu, because #ubuntu is gnome oriented05:37
vortek!version05:37
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, vortek05:37
EasterSunshinevortek: latest stable is hoary, 5.0405:37
DonLdylanrogers, on the bright side, my wife said if I was going to insist on playing with this linux stuff, I would have to get my own computer. Bonus.05:37
zeus1_alright well...back to windoes ... ill try to catch crimsun tommorow to fix the sound05:38
DonLNever had to dual boot again05:38
vortekEasterSunshine : is it like debian raw  were I just chane the sources.list to hoary ?05:38
EasterSunshinevortek: the current unstable latest is colony 3, which is a preview of breezy, 5.1005:38
dylanrogersDonL, AMAZING05:38
persiaEasterSunshine: uim-applet-gnome, uim-anthy,05:38
vortekEasterSunshine : and do apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade ?05:38
drewfusanyone?05:38
dylanrogersDonL, you're lucky....i live with my girlfriend and thank god she knew linux before i did05:38
drewfushow do i burn an iso?05:38
dylanrogerslol i fucked that machine up05:38
DonLlol05:38
zeus1_LOL05:38
zeus1_a girl that can use linux lmao05:38
EasterSunshinevortek: if you are upgrading from warty, then yes, just replace warty with hoary in sources.list05:38
vortekhrm i wonder If I should try unstable on a 1.1 ghz laptop05:38
dylanrogerszeus1_, shes really hot tho....05:39
EasterSunshinevortek: and do that upgrade stuff05:39
dylanrogerslol05:39
persiavortek: From what distribution are you upgrading?05:39
vortekword05:39
zeus1_sry...in my experiences women+technology = RUNNN05:39
vortekwarty05:39
drewfusa girlfriend that knows more about linux than a guy? awesome05:39
vortekpersia warty05:39
zeus1_ya ... amen to that brotha05:39
vortekim having to many issues with synaptics touch pad and such05:39
zeus1_lol05:39
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DonLzeus1_, not so uncommon really05:39
vorteknone of the google results show any thing that works05:39
Madpilotdrewfus: for burning ISO, check the wiki05:39
zeus1_u for real05:39
drewfusthats like my friend who says the day he finds a girl who kicks his ass at battelfield or halo hes marrying her05:39
persiavortek: Yes, you can just change the sources, and run `sudo aptitude dist-upgrade`05:39
drewfusok thanks Madpilot05:39
vortekand I want the latest05:39
dylanrogerszeus1_, well i just installed ubuntu as my first linux distro this morning05:39
zeus1_same dylan05:40
EasterSunshinewhere do you find girls that know linux?05:40
dylanrogersi kinda dont remember the last distro name05:40
EasterSunshinethey sure as hell don't live on earth05:40
zeus1_i just install ubuntu this morning05:40
vortekpersia : ill just use apt-get dist-upgrade :)05:40
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, my school05:40
mjrEasterSunshine, at the local CS department ;)05:40
vortekpersia : how stable is unstable lol I mean is it as stable as debian unstalbe wich is pretty much stable05:40
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, Loyola University Chicago.05:40
EasterSunshine(no offense to anyone)05:40
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vortekunstalbe=unstable05:40
persiavortek: Hoary is stable.  Breezy is broken.05:40
vortekk05:40
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: don't tell me what school you go to...i might be here to abduct you05:41
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, i see......hmmm.05:41
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, thats not good05:41
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kevogodI go to Anne Mary Pitsch Elementary05:41
FatBatHi how do I set xine to be my default media player?05:41
DonLWell, I must go folks. Hope you get your sound working zeus. I know you will05:41
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: i now have enough information to track you down and kidnap you...05:41
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MadpilotEasterSunshine: stop scaring the newbies... ;)05:42
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: the internet is full of dangerous ppl, be careful05:42
dabaREasterSunshine: dfor example, you install linux on some girls computer...and you give them your email adress, you set up an admin axccount for yourself, and you set up dynamic dns on their comptuer.05:42
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dabaRAlso, you give her your ph#.05:42
zombicsther is a way to eject a cdrom when he's being in use?05:42
dabaRso, she can have support.05:42
kevogodAlso, you set up VNC on her computer05:42
vortekis there an easy way to get ride of gnome and replace it with another wm ?05:42
dabaRand, then, she learns fast, cause she wants to use the comptuer, and you can ssh into it to fix it...05:42
kevogodso you can watch her every move05:42
dabaRhaha.05:43
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, are you really this killer?05:43
EasterSunshinekevogod, dabaR: ...05:43
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dabaRya, then hyou can read her logs.05:43
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: ...05:43
persiavortek: It's easy to install another wm, and not use GNOME.  Why do you want to remove it, are you low on space?05:43
Madpilotkevogod: there's a line somewhere between tech support and stalking... :)05:43
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, perhaps one that rides a rhino and shoots gumballs from a Super Soaker?05:43
dabaREasterSunshine: this is something I did a few days ago.05:43
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: i am not gonna do anything, don't worry, i'm just showing you that you are doing things pretty dangerously05:43
kevogodMadpilot: Well you only turn on viewing, duh.05:43
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EasterSunshinedabaR: seriously? how did it work out?05:43
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, are there really that many scary folks online?05:43
dabaRIll bring her over now.05:44
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: on irc, yes05:44
EasterSunshinedylanrogers: maybe not on this server though05:44
dabaREasterSunshine: so far so good.05:44
dylanrogersEasterSunshine, well images do not show up on IRC....its all text05:44
kevogodThey are all in #ubuntu-unregged.05:44
dabaRI can ssh over to her box at any time, cause I know the domain name, and I have a user name.05:44
EasterSunshineyou kids are inside...to the membrane05:45
drewfusMadpilot, the reason i asked is because its not working, and all the wiki says is follow the instructions05:45
zeus1_wehn will breezy be released05:45
vortekpersia : it needs udev wich makes my new kernel take 3 minutes to boot cause it says  , initializing device modes , right before it boots and hangs for like 3 minutes literly05:45
dylanrogerszeus1_, october05:45
zeus1_oh05:45
dabaREasterSunshine: thats how you do stuff.05:45
persiazeus1_: On or around October 10th (I think)05:45
EasterSunshineubotu tell zeus1_ about release05:45
zeus1_so breezy has got the skills to put the thrills on the chills bill right05:45
dabaRzeus1_: each six months there is a release. in october, and in april.05:45
vortekpersia : the whole reason i switched and made a new optimized kernel was to speed up the laptop and boot time :P05:45
dabaRpersia: there is a date on the web site somewhere, I think on the wiki.05:45
dabaRpersia: and its after the 20th, I believe.05:46
EasterSunshinedabaR: and she approves of it?05:46
EasterSunshinedabaR: if i were her, that would be an invasion of my privacy05:46
kevogodSo far, Ubuntu has met its release deadlines and I am loving them for it.05:46
persiavortek: OK.  I don't recommend trying to pull gnome out, as there are a *lot* of dependencies.  On the other hand, if you install xfce or wm or something, you can select that in gdm, and the gnome session and dsktop will not load.05:46
zeus1_so whats new in breezy05:46
dabaRapproves of what? Im not a stalker...I dont care what she does + i know she's dirty anyhow...so...05:46
dabaRkevogod: to meet deadlines for SW development, you manage scope.05:47
EasterSunshinedabaR: lol...this is offtopic but...i AM a stalker05:47
dabaRyour prob.05:47
zeus1_GOD IF YOUR OUT THERE HELP ME GET MY SOUND WORKING IN LINUX!05:47
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dabaRhehe.05:47
EasterSunshinezeus is already at the top of the greek pantheon...05:47
dabaRzeus1_: I know a sound god type-o-person that hangs out here.05:47
EasterSunshineis anyone can do something, zeus can05:47
zeus1_where is god....where is jesus to save me from my linux woes??????/05:47
dabaRzeus1_: catch crimsun when he is here.05:48
EasterSunshinezeus1_: jesus did not use linux, it was not released then05:48
zeus1_i caut him earlyer05:48
zeus1_he helped me with some stuff05:48
dabaRok, well catch him later too.05:48
drewfusthey didnt have open source back then05:48
drewfusit was all proprietary05:48
zeus1_crimsun is leet....he has DEFINITLY got the skills to put the thrills on the chills bill05:48
dabaRjesus owns you...05:48
EasterSunshinezeus1_: back then, doze was the os05:48
zeus1_lol05:48
nickruddrewfus, not actually, there were factories of slaves that copied anything that would sell.05:49
EasterSunshineoh no i have said that jesus used doze...that is blasphemous05:49
persiazeus1_: I'm not the individual you've just described, and I assume you've already investigated http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/.  Does your card show when you look at the output of `aplay -l`?05:49
drewfusif it sold its not full open source05:49
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drewfusright?05:49
nickrud:)05:49
zeus1_persia:  yes....the card shows05:49
dabaRdrewfus: wrong.05:50
kevogoddrewfus: No05:50
drewfusdamn05:50
persiazeus1_: Oops: that was supposed to be http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/05:50
zeus1_what about red hat05:50
drewfusi was trying to sound like i knew what i was saying05:50
drewfus:-D05:50
vortekpersia : I just want to remove udev05:50
zeus1_thats not free is it05:50
Madpilotdrewfus: people sell open source apps all the time - you can buy Ubuntu from people, if you really wanted to05:50
persiazeus1_: And it is Card 0?05:50
zeus1_yes05:50
vortekpersia : it makes my kernel take like 3minutes to boot and gnome depends on it05:50
drewfusthat hardly counts05:50
dabaRdrewfus: read on it, there is http://www.debian.org/intro/free05:50
zeus1_umm05:50
zeus1_is fluxbox better than gnome05:50
kevogodReal men release their code as public domain.05:50
zeus1_my friend says get fluxbox or i wont learn anything about linux05:50
drewfusi trust you its too late for reading05:51
persiavortek: Removing udev from ubuntu is very painful.  It can be done, but you'll need to modify many packages.05:51
dabaRzeus1_: that is not a good question. it is different, and is used for a different thing.05:51
zeus1_and i have it .... but i find it much harder to use than gnome05:51
EasterSunshinekevogod: and ppl like me obfuscate the code first05:51
drewfusanyways im having a lot of trouble burning an iso05:51
drewfuscan anyone help05:51
dabaRdrewfus: I dont think its ever too late for reading.05:51
vortekpersia  ouch05:51
dabaRdrewfus: in ubuntu?05:51
drewfusim illiterate then05:51
drewfusyeah05:51
dabaRwhy not right click on it and select burn to cd?05:51
drewfusi guess its hanging unless im doing it wrong05:52
vortekpersia : there must be  a way to stop the kernel from taking three minutes on "initialize device modes"05:52
kevogodEasterSunshine: So you are the one who leaked the Win2000 source?05:52
vortekit does it on the custom kernels05:52
persiavortek: Install less hardware :)05:52
dabaRzeus1_: your friend is a pretend-cool-geek.05:52
vortekvortek : i did tht05:52
vortekerps05:52
vortekpersia i did that05:52
zeus1_lol05:52
vortekpersia the problem is udev creats like 50 or more /dev/'s05:52
dabaRzeus1_: they always try to push stupid ideas like that, oh, kde is better than gnome, or you gotta use emacs or you dont learn anything, blah.05:53
vortekand it just hangs there on that statement for 3 minutes05:53
crimsunzeus1_: what do you need?05:53
EasterSunshinekevogod: doze2k source code is leaked?!05:53
zeus1_he told me that ubuntu sux and that hes getting gentoo05:53
vortekpersia : and it basicly locks up05:53
zeus1_:(05:53
dabaRtypical.05:53
drewfusam i burning wrong? i click burn to cd and it just sits at 1/505:53
vortekpersia : the kernel dont boot till itsdone and its like the 3rd line on reboot05:53
kevogodEasterSunshine: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/Feb04/02-12windowssource.mspx05:53
zeus1_crimsun!05:53
persiavortek: OK.  It really shouldn't take three minutes, especially as all the nodes should be created in tmpfs.05:53
zeus1_hey man my sound is NOT working05:53
vortekpersia : yeah thats what im saying05:53
vortekpersia : I need to find the glitch05:53
vortekpersia : but I guess Ill do that 2morrow05:54
dabaRare you using linux, yes, did you learn anything since you started using it? yes. ok, then you learned something about linux.05:54
vortekdabaR lol05:54
dabaRabnyhow, later.05:54
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kevogodThis is my favorite part of it:05:54
kevogod"On Monday, February 16, Microsoft began investigating a reported exploit on versions of Internet Explorer allegedly discovered by an individual studying the leaked source code."05:54
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zeus1_crimsun: im using nvidia soundforce card and plantronics USB DSP 500 headset05:55
zeus1_im getting absolutly no sound05:55
drewfuscan someone help me burn an iso? its not working05:56
paulwis there a way to hook your frontside audio cables to a soundblaster live card?05:56
ce33nadrewfus: what are you using05:57
crimsunzeus1_: cat /proc/asound/cards05:57
drewfusubuntu?05:57
paulwor can you only plug frontpanel into mboard?05:57
dabaRdrewfus: you are using nautilus.05:57
drewfusok im using nautilus05:57
zeus1_crimsun: ok...I saw my sound card come up05:58
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ce33nadrewfus: cdrecord -v -pad dev=/dev/hdc whateveryouhavenamedthefile.iso05:58
persiapaulw: (generic statement) Many cards have headers for remote audio ports.  If these don't work, you can also purchase cables that connect the rear ports to the jumpers.05:58
durtwow - yall are stiill having sound problems huh05:58
zeus1_ye05:58
dabaRdurt, where are you from?05:58
zeus1_but my man crimsun is here...hopefully he can help05:58
crimsunzeus1_: paste the output in #flood05:58
drewfusce33na, so right clicking doesnt work05:58
ce33nathats from the command line05:59
vortekthanxs for the help all :D :D05:59
durtdabar: north america05:59
dabaRno, I mean, texas, or where?05:59
durtdelaware05:59
dabaRWhat state is that in, durt?05:59
dabaRjust asking cause you said yall.05:59
dabaRis delaware a state?06:00
durtdabar: i always say yall06:00
zeus1_crimsun: maybe this will work better http://pastebin.com/34818506:00
durtlol06:00
durtwhere the hell are you from dabar, mars?06:00
paulwmy front panel audio can connect to my mboard just fine, the problem is i can't get my onboard audio to work with linux06:00
dabaRIm in WInnipeg, Canada right now, originally form Croatia, in Europe.06:00
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dabaRand, you guys have too many states for me to know.06:01
dabaRlike, 50, or 52 or something.06:01
crimsunzeus1_: I need amixer output, too06:01
drewfusce33na, how do i check which drive it is06:01
nickruddabaR, not fair :)06:01
dabaRI dont know much n.a. geography.06:01
durtyes delaware is a little tiny state06:01
drewfusce33na, nm06:01
dabaRnickrud: how so?06:01
zeus1_crimsun: http://pastebin.com/34818606:02
ce33nadrewfus: try it. it will either work or give an error message06:02
nickrudum, well, hiding more than you know? ;P06:02
ce33namay need to do it sudo06:02
drewfusit said no such directory06:03
ce33nadrewfus06:03
dabaRnickrud: I really dont know much n.a. geography at all as you just saw, probably.06:03
drewfusim sure i got the path righ ce33na06:04
EasterSunshinepostfix is reponsible for sending mail when i use kmail, mutt, or evolution, or thunderbird?06:04
dabaROk, I predict he has to mute IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA.06:04
ce33nadrewfus: do me a favor and put a data cd in. after it mounts, type df at the command line06:04
durtyeah mute all those iec things06:04
ce33nathat will tell you all mounted filesystems06:04
paulwhow do you mute IEC958?06:04
dabaRpaulw: I was not talking about your issue.06:05
drewfusi know its hdd06:05
ce33naok.06:05
drewfusslave on secondary ide06:05
ce33nawhat is the name of the iso file06:05
dabaRgood thinking.06:05
zeus1_http://www.astreet.com/article.php?sid=22106:05
zeus1_old article but funny06:05
drewfus/home/drew/desktop/XP2VOL_EN.iso06:06
ce33natry this....06:06
EasterSunshineshame on you drewfus...06:06
drewfusoh06:06
drewfusi think i see06:06
crimsunzeus1_: amixer sset 'External Amplifier' on06:06
drewfus:-D06:06
drewfussorry im an ass06:07
drewfusim used to the windows world where caps dont matter06:07
ce33nasudo cdrecord -v -pad dev=/dev/hdd pathtoimage.iso06:07
ce33naand yes...caps matter06:07
drewfusits working now06:07
ce33naI didn't see what you were burning....right?06:07
Madpilotdrewfus: spelling counts in Linux - so does capitalization! ;)06:08
drewfusdid i spell something wrong? Madpilot06:08
EasterSunshinewhy would someone make an os that isn't case sensitive? aside from n00b friendliness, it boggles my mind...06:08
zeus1_crimsun: now what do I do06:08
kevogodDon't know how to spell? Learn to use the tab key!06:08
drewfusce33na, im going to dual boot06:08
crimsunany noise?06:08
drewfusce33na, so no you didnt see06:08
ce33nadrewfus: what did you use to make the iso06:08
zeus1_crimsun: no noise06:08
drewfusi copied my other cd of windows xp pro ce33na06:08
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drewfus:-)06:09
ce33nawhat program06:09
drewfusi dont remember06:09
ce33nanext time try this06:09
kevogodEasterSunshine: Because in the English language there is no difference between a capitalized letter and a lowercase letter. They are the same letter.06:09
durtno they arent06:09
ce33nadd if=/dev/hdd of=foo.iso06:09
drewfuswhats that06:09
EasterSunshinekevogod: unix is in english as well...06:09
ce33nacommand line iso creation...substitue foo for whatever you want to call the image06:10
drewfushuh?06:10
EasterSunshinekevogod: for example, cat is short for concaternate, and man is short for manual06:10
crimsunzeus1_: what sound device are you using by default?06:10
ce33naok...your not ready for that06:10
drewfusno06:10
ce33nait skips the fancy crutches06:11
zeus1_what sound device?? umm....how do I check06:11
kevogodYes, but to the average person, "Cat" and "cat" are the same.06:11
drewfusoh, i depend on crutches i have no linux legs06:11
crimsunzeus1_: as in are your speakers plugged into the onboard?06:11
ce33na:)06:11
drewfusin fact i need a linux wheelchair06:11
zeus1_i think...06:11
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EasterSunshinekevogod: hm..i'm understanding now, windows is made for the casual user06:12
ce33na"dd" stands for data dump06:12
drewfusnot an automatic one though, im not that dependent :-)06:12
drewfusok06:12
cornflakeis breezy considered unstable?06:12
zeus1_i think06:12
EasterSunshinekevogod: i'm too used to unix, to understand my doze does everything so stupidly06:12
rob^cornflake, yes06:12
holycowcornflake, until its releases yes06:12
drewfusnow how can i verify that cd? ce33na06:12
EasterSunshinelater06:12
kevogodciao06:12
ce33narun it06:12
ce33na:)06:12
cornflakerob^: well.... i want to know how to downgrade then06:12
rob^cornflake, either don't, or just reinstall06:13
ce33nathere is a way...I havent explored it yet06:13
drewfusi think i saw something in the wiki about verifying06:13
cornflakerob^: main thing is that i fucked up my x server06:13
ce33naseems like you could do a checksum or something...I'm not up on that06:13
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drewfusthanks for your help ce06:13
ce33nanp06:14
drewfusce33na, ^^^06:14
durtbreezy works well cornflake06:14
crimsunzeus1_: please make sure06:14
rob^cornflake, just to: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:14
cornflakerob^: thanx06:14
ce33naI just find the command line easier for making cds and iso images06:14
durtrob^: that is always the answer ;)06:14
rob^heh06:14
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dabaRthere is no easy way to downgrade, cornflake. if you xserver is borked, first thing you can try is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and reconfigure that.06:15
zeus1_crimsun : WAIT its not plugged in....um where do u plug it in lol idk that physical computer stuff and my dads asleep :(06:15
crimsunzeus1_: um...into the line-out/speaker-out jack06:15
cornflakerob^: how much memory should i give a video card?06:16
zeus1_h/o let me mess wit some stuff06:16
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durthowever much it has06:16
durtor just skip it cornflake06:16
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cornflakedurt: thanx06:16
dabaRdead chan.06:16
dabaR!test06:16
ubotuCrashed.06:16
dabaR!something06:16
ubotusee http://something.com for a good way to waste time06:16
zeus1_SHIT!!!  i was getting down to find that jack and i hit my knee hard on the computer and i think i broke the face plate of the pc case!!!06:17
deFryskpc with a broken nose06:19
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rob^nickrud, theres a howto somewhere06:20
tejasdoes anyone know an equivalent of kjobviewer fo Ubuntu?06:20
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durtlook at gnomefiles.org tejas06:21
tejasdurt, thanks06:21
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zeus1_um wheres the speaker out jack06:23
candlelightanyone, how to choose what to install with ubuntu installation cd?06:23
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deFryskcandlelight, its easyer to uninstall after install06:24
volvoguycandlelight, you could try the expert install. otherwise the installer just installs everything.06:24
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cornflakethanx guys!06:26
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zeus1_crimsun!06:27
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zeus1_I plugged in the speakers06:27
candlelightdeFrysk, volvoguy, thanks.  which doc says about expert install?06:27
zeus1_there working06:27
crimsunzeus1_: so your sound is fine06:27
zeus1_ya06:28
zeus1_now to get it into the USB head set06:28
crimsuntell your alsa apps to use hw:1,006:28
volvoguycandlelight, when you boot the install cd, you can choose expert instead of just hitting enter. i've never needed to do it myself, so i'm not sure where the docs would be.06:28
zeus1_where?06:28
durtso wait - all this time you were trying to get sound working without speakers zeus1_?06:28
zeus1_Yes06:28
zeus1_lol06:28
zeus1_im listening to fear factory - transgression there new album06:29
griffhello, I seem to have broken gnome through fooling with a new firewire external hard drive06:29
griffany help would be much appreciated :)06:29
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codomaniac!lpy06:29
ubotucodomaniac: Bugger all, i dunno06:29
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zeus1_crimsun: where do I change the alsa apps to use hw 1.006:30
durthow so is it broken griff?06:30
griffwell, when I try and log in, even with the failsafe Gnome it just hangs06:30
durtso it doesnt boot?06:30
griffI have an e17 installation I can login to06:30
absinthe_I'm using dmix, and with beep/xmms every once and awhile my music starts crackling/reverbing badly. All I have to do to fix it is pause and unpause. Why?06:30
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griffwell it boots06:31
zeus1_does anyone kno where to change alsa apps06:31
ryguy1233hi06:31
griffunless, booting actually means logging in06:31
ryguy1233is seveas here tonight/06:31
durt/etc/asound.conf maybe06:31
griffunder e17, gnome programs (such as gnome terminal) don't work06:32
crimsunzeus1_: in their preferences, like in beep-media-player's or xmms's06:32
crimsunzeus1_: otherwise, you have to use a customsink in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink06:32
griffthankfully, xterm does06:32
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ryguy1233anyone know about grub and fdisk?06:33
deadinplasticwhat would be the equivalent of libcompat of redhat for ubuntu. i just don't know the name of the package. sybase db is linked to a particularly old version of libstdc06:34
durtmaybe you could reinstall gnome or something06:34
griffouch06:34
grifffair enough06:34
durtor try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"06:34
griffok hold on06:34
absinthe_I'm using dmix, and with beep/xmms every once and awhile my music starts crackling/reverbing badly. All I have to do to fix it is pause and unpause. Why?06:35
ryguy1233grub loaader anyone?06:35
zeus1_um anyone kno how to get into alsa preferences06:35
griffif it helps at all, I had just partitioned a new firewire drive and made it ext306:36
zeus1_i forgot how to i was there before...06:36
griffand mounted it using instructions from Linux from Scratch06:36
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durtzeus1_: try alsaconf maybe06:36
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griffI tried copying files to it, and cp kept skipping everything I tried06:36
glickhi06:37
zeus1_no such command durt06:37
glickman Kontact rules!06:37
glicki really dont get why there is ubuntu and kubuntu06:37
glickon ubuntu website06:37
durtwell ill be damned, i use to have that command06:37
glickjust have an iso with gnome as the default and an iso with kde as the default06:37
glickgeez06:37
griffaww crap06:38
nickrudglick, kde sucks, so some people had to put in the time to make it work :)06:38
candlelightglick, is that the only diff? i never know, thanks06:38
griffnow we run into my long ingnored e17 locales error06:38
griffoi06:38
glicknickrud, there is no need for name calling, kde is a mature desktop enviornment06:38
glickits not bad06:38
glickcandlelight, yeah thats the only diff06:38
zeus1_Umm06:39
nickrudto many options, I get lost06:39
zeus1_where is alsa preferences lol06:39
griffnever mind, got through06:39
glicki find KDE alot better intergrated than gnome06:39
glicklike kontact for example06:39
zeus1_OK WAIT06:39
zeus1_I set ALSA as the default audio output sink06:40
zeus1_and the test worked over the speakers06:40
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zeus1_so now how to put the sound into the usb headset?06:40
PhuzionHey, is there a way I can get my local IP address on my LAN?06:40
candlelightifconfig06:40
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zeus1_crimsun: I set alsa as the thing....now wat06:40
ryguy1233has anyone heard of madboot.com06:41
ryguy1233or ultimatebootcd.com06:41
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glickohhh yeah!06:41
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durtive got two tickets to paradise... wow what a great song06:42
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sockpuppe1is everything ok?06:42
sockpuppe1I have a quick question: how do I figure out what program/service is running on a certain port06:43
sockpuppe1?06:43
griffreconfiguring xorg didn't do anything06:43
Agrajagsockpuppe1: netstat -nptul06:44
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nickrudsockpuppe1, sudo netstat -tlp06:44
Agrajagwell, I think you just need p06:44
durtsorry griff, i dont know what to do :(06:44
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Agrajagsockpuppe1: netstat -nptul06:44
griffits ok06:44
griffthanks very much06:44
durtjust ask google i guess06:44
griffI'll post to the forums I guess06:45
sockpuppe1the reason I ask is because a weird thing keeps happening06:46
sockpuppe1my firewall tells me someone is atacking me on port 1026-102706:46
sockpuppe1and I thought it was a program06:46
sockpuppe1but nothing to my knowledge is running on those ports06:47
zeus1_can anyone help me with getting sound to work on ubuntu linux06:48
Dr_Williszeus1_,  what sound card? and have you checked the wiki's yet?06:48
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zeus1_nvidia soundforce and yes06:48
Dr_Willissmart man. :P06:48
zeus1_my sound works throguh the speakers06:48
bored2kis there a command i can run via terminal to shutdown the computer without the need for root/sudo access?06:48
zeus1_and I am listening to music i can here it jsut fine06:48
nickrudbored2k, no06:48
zeus1_just getting it to play in my plantronics headset is what i need06:49
bored2knickrud, ok thanks06:49
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Madpilotspeaking of netstat, what is "/tmp/orbit-$user/linc-<more numbers>" supposed to be?06:49
sockpuppe1anyone have a clue?06:49
candlelightbored2k: shutdown -h now06:49
nickrudcandlelight, with root/sudo :)06:49
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LaserLineIs there a tool for checking BAD SECTORS on the hard drive ?06:50
bored2kcandlelight, shutdown: you must be root to do that!06:50
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sockpuppe1my firewall tells me someone is atacking me on port 1026-102706:51
candlelightyeah, sorry06:51
nickrudbored2k, actually, now that I think on it, you can do that through the login screen.06:51
sockpuppe1but nothing to my knowledge is running on those ports06:51
zeus1_ahh dam it im so close to get this working some1 helppp!!!!06:51
summersi am really new to linux, how do i cange my screen resolution on ubuntu???? i can only make it 640X40006:52
bored2knickrud, i need a command so i can shutdown the pc via cron. i dont know how cron works, but that's step 206:52
nickrudbored2k, I'm working on the cron wiki page at the moment. pm me?06:52
bored2knickrud, yes sir.06:53
nickrudheh06:53
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candlelightbored2k, how about a user of wheel group -- not too sure about this though06:54
summershow do i edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf???06:54
bored2kcandlelight, not sure i understand what you even mean :/.06:54
Madpilotsummers: "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" - assuming you're running X06:54
summersk, thanks alot!06:55
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zeus1_can anyone help me fix my sound06:56
crimsunzeus1_: ?06:56
candlelightbored2k, i remembe last time when i use suse i could run that shutdown command, without sudo or root, but i belong to a wheel group, which has more access to the system06:56
zeus1_crimsun: i set the ALSA thing to default sink06:56
Dr_Williszeus1_,  some4 of these sound cards now a days have like 3 output that can 'change' some how with software to be say an input or a output.. not sure how they work under linux however06:57
crimsunzeus1_: do you mean that you set the default audio sink to custom sink, and then "alsasink device=plughw:1,0" in the box?06:57
bored2kcandlelight, hmm.. ill try playing with that now. I could also try playing with sudoers, but that's my last resort.06:57
zeus1_uhhh06:57
zeus1_i went into system-->preferences---> multimedia systems selector06:58
zeus1_and changed default sink to ALSA06:58
zeus1_is that how ur supposed to do it06:58
candlelightbored2k, wheel group users is just a group where the users can access some hardware or service06:58
crimsunzeus1_: no. change the default sink to custom sink.06:58
zeus1_k06:58
crimsunzeus1_: then in the box below that, type "alsasink device=plughw:1,0"06:58
zeus1_it is06:58
crimsunzeus1_: I assume that your usb headset is plugged in?06:58
zeus1_yes06:58
zeus1_now wat06:59
candlelightbored2k, so i suspect if we set up a group where its user has right on what we want, then we can start a cron job as the user06:59
crimsunzeus1_: and what is the output from cat /proc/asound/cards ?06:59
bored2kcandlelight, ill try and see playing with <users n groups> GUI what i can make07:00
zeus1_crimsun: http://pastebin.com/34821707:00
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candlelightbored2k, not too sure, i'm newbie :)07:00
bored2kcandlelight, im just -for some reason- avoiding sudoers07:00
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crimsunzeus1_: Are you sure that your usb headset is plugged in?07:01
zeus1_yes07:01
crimsunzeus1_: it certainly hasn't registered07:01
zeus1_h/o07:01
summershelp my screen is stuck on 640X480!! how do i change it?07:01
zeus1_let me take plug out then put back in07:01
zeus1_just in case07:01
crimsun!fixresolution07:01
ubotuNot a clue, crimsun07:01
zeus1_crimsun: its definitly plugged in07:02
Madpilot!fixres07:03
ubotuhmm... fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:03
zeus1_and I replugged , did the "cat" command and I still got the same exact result07:03
Madpilotsummers: see ubotu above ^^^07:03
zeus1_but07:03
zeus1_i swear it was showing up earlier07:03
summersk thanks again] 07:03
zeus1_it was under devices...then all of a sudden its done07:03
crimsunzeus1_: lsmod|grep ^snd_usb_audio07:03
zeus1_what did that do07:04
crimsunzeus1_: what was the output?07:06
zeus1_there was none07:06
zeus1_i copied the command right from ur post07:06
zeus1_and pasted and it didnt do anything07:07
crimsunso you need to insert it07:07
crimsunlooks like hotplugging isn't working properly07:07
zeus1_insert what? im confused on what u mean07:08
crimsunsudo modprobe snd-usb-audio07:08
zeus1_didnt do anything...07:09
zeus1_or had no output07:09
crimsungood07:09
crimsunnow cat /proc/asound/cards07:09
zeus1_still no change07:09
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zeus1_im guessing thats not good : \07:11
zeus1_is there an other command..07:11
delltonyanyone here ever use moto4lin? if so can you please explain how to install skins from motomodders?07:12
crimsunzeus1_: reboot, plug it in afterward07:12
zeus1_so pull it out now....reboot and once ubuntu is started up I shall plug it in crimsun?07:13
zeus1_ok well im going to go do that07:13
zeus1_brb07:13
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Lie-Algebrahi all, supposing i want to change the label of one of my partitions ( then the fstab file), would it be possible to rename  hda2 into hda4  ?07:16
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zeus1_ok rebooted and plugged in crimsun07:18
n1xt3rLie-Algebra: no, but maybe what you want is lvm07:19
zeus1_what was that command again...07:19
zeus1_DUDE NVM07:20
zeus1_it works07:20
zeus1_in the headset07:20
zeus1_thank u07:20
Lie-Algebrathks,  i am gonna have a look (its just because i get message like partition table entries are not in disk order & partition nx doesnt end on a cylinder boundary but all works fine..)07:21
zeus1_now how do I turn down the volume07:21
zeus1_lol07:21
zeus1_nvm got it07:23
zeus1_thanks for the help07:23
zeus1_now i can jam out.....on LINUX!07:23
zeus1_so props to u all...you helped me once again, g2g for tonight later07:24
summershow do i install amsn or any program at that??07:24
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Dr_Willistime to read up on 'apt-get' summers  :P07:25
summersyes i agree, how do i do that07:25
benplaut!apt-get07:25
ubotuhmm... apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/07:25
Madpilotsummers: gaim can do the aim thing, and a whole pile of other networks...07:25
summerskk07:26
Dr_Willisbehold the power of the Wiki!07:26
Dr_Willis:)07:26
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summersthanks07:27
LaserLineI would be glad for some assistance.07:27
LaserLineAnyone here could help me figure out what is wrong with my FileSystem ?07:28
Dr_Willisall the bits are loose. :P07:30
candlelightsummers: screen resolution: xf86cfg07:30
Madpilotcandlelight: pretty sure that's dead wrong. Ubuntu uses x.org - read that FixRes page...07:31
summersi got the res fixed07:32
summersworking on installing things lol07:32
MadpilotLaserLine: more specific questions might get better answers...07:32
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dsl_CrystuferHey all.07:35
LaserLineI get multiple INODE and EXT3 errors while Booting..07:37
LaserLineI use Ubuntu with the Dafault installation.07:37
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LaserLineI think it happens after Hibernating, but not sure. I added the resume=/dev/hda5 line in KOPT (Swap is hda5)07:38
persiaLaserLine: That usually either indicates problems with your hard drive, or that your machine was not shut down properly on the last boot.07:38
skullrihi all07:39
LaserLineToday i had problems loading X (GDM and GNOME) after shutdown and restart.07:39
robitaillequestion: I did the other day an installation on a Celeron-based laptop, and ended up with the -386 kernel instead of the -686.  Is that a bug of the installer with my particular hardware, or everyone gets the -386 kernel by default?07:39
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LaserLineSo I had to use the 686 kernel (recovery mode)07:39
persiaLaserLine: When restoring from hibernate, is your session restored, or is it a new session?07:39
skullriwell i'm having problem trying to install gaim07:39
LaserLinepersia: the session restores it self perfectly07:39
candlelightsummers: u try the "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" on fixvid wiki page and it works?07:39
Madpilotrobitaille: I think everyone gets the 386 kernel, this K7 machine had it on first install...07:39
skullrican someone help me07:40
LaserLineNow i insterted the Ubuntu LiveCD and in TTY2 wrote the command: "sudo fsck -C -c -f /dev/hda1"07:40
persiaLaserLine: Beyond me then.  It sounds like it might be hardware, but perhaps someone else can help.07:40
LaserLinealll chackes passs07:40
carthikrobitaile there are only amd64, 86 and powerpc install/live cds... guess it supports everyone and thats why07:40
Madpilotskullri: gaim is installed by default in Ubuntu - Applications menu - Internet - Gaim07:40
skullriyeah07:40
robitailleMadpilot:  thanks.  Since it was the first time with that laptop that I was doing an install with the installer, I had no idea that to expect07:41
skullribut i removed it and tried to install it from then source07:41
skullri1.5.007:41
skullribut i got some errors07:41
summershttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ did not help at all07:41
LaserLineand writes: "File System was modifies" 215470q1172736 (3.2% non-contiguous), 1167694/2345482 blocks07:41
summersim still confused07:41
carthiksummers what is it that you are confused about?07:42
Madpilotsummers: for install, try Synaptic, it's graphical not command line07:42
Madpilot!synaptic07:42
ubotuit has been said that synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto07:42
LaserLineThe filesystem Ubuntu uses with default installation is EXT3 or EXT2 ? ?07:42
summersk tahnkis07:42
Dr_Willisext307:42
carthikLaserLine, you could use what you like anyways...07:42
carthiknot an answer, i know - sorry about that07:42
LaserLinecarthik - I know, thanks :-)07:43
LaserLineIt's a Fujitsu Siemes S-4546 (P3-600) so performance issues aren't diffrent./.07:43
Dr_WillisYou did good - if you managed to mess up a ext3 filesystem :P07:43
Madpilotskullri: gaim 1.5 will be default in Breezy - why not just wait until early October?07:43
LaserLineDr_Willis: I didn't mess it up.... I rebotted the system and it just happend...07:44
Dr_Willisive never been able to do that. even with the dog unplugging the machine.07:44
Dr_WillisLaserLine,  ewww... that could be a hard drive going in to the great beyond. :P07:44
LaserLineIt first happend after Installing the damn Kubuntu (wanted to see how KDE is like... I HATE IT !)07:44
candlelightMadpilot: my system doesn't have xorg, what's the full name?07:45
Madpilotcandlelight: what are you running? Warty?07:45
LaserLinethen I had problems booting the 686 kernel...so i tried to delete it...using synaptics, and it always wrote an error in some directorey in the kernel modules (sound)...07:45
LaserLineso i wasn't able to reinstall..07:45
LaserLinewhen i loaded the live cd and wrote the about command (i needed to fsck w/o the drive being mounted) it fixed thoese directorys and i was home free :D07:46
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candlelightMadpilot: i install 4.1 warty, then run synaptic update07:46
LaserLinebut now, i get too many problems... it works great, bt i hate seeing erros !07:46
xds_beta3BARINDAR PAUL07:46
xds_beta3hey all07:46
LaserLineDr_Willis : Is there a way of running fsck and actually fixing a filesystem w/o using the livecd ?07:47
Madpilotcandlelight: that's over my head - I know Warty was x86 & Hoary is X.org, but have no idea what to do to switch up07:47
skullriMadpilot:to much time07:48
skullriMadpilot: too much time07:48
LaserLineAnyone....  Is there a way of running fsck and actually fixing a filesystem w/o using the livecd ?07:48
carthikLaserline, when it starts up and says "checking file system integrity' try doing a Ctrl+C then it will drop you into the # prompt07:49
persiacandlelight: If you're feeling brave, you can just install "xserver-xorg".  This will change from xfree86 to xorg, but the configuration is different, and there may be problems.07:49
carthikLaserLine, or maybe choose recovery mode from grub...07:49
summersi downloaded a program and its on my desktop, what do i do after that?07:50
LaserLineIs there a possibility to add to grub mode an option to load a the FSCK (like there is memtest86+) ??07:50
candlelightpersia, xorg is preffered ?07:51
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zeus1_ok...maybe im not done yet07:51
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ikkyshi guys, i have a machine that has windows and gentoo in it. i have downloaded ubuntu 5.04 and would like to install it, can anyone give me some pointers? do i just umerge root and leave boot/swap?07:51
Madpilotsummers: that depends what it is, and how it's packaged... and if it's available thru the Ubuntu repos, it's much, much easier to install it from there...07:51
zeus1_So the sounds playing thru the headset and everythings good....so I reboot linux and come back just as a test and sure enough...the headset sound is once again not working07:51
LaserLineMaybe the Hibernating skrews up my system ?07:52
zeus1_what the HELL is wrong with this thing07:52
summersits amsn messenger07:52
summersand its not on there07:52
Madpilotsummers: gAIM07:52
Madpilot!gaim07:53
ubotufrom memory, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/07:53
durtzeus1_: did you load any modules before rebooting?07:53
summersi have gaim, i dont like it07:53
zeus1_durt uhhh....what modules07:53
ikkysanyone?help07:53
xds_beta3gaim sucks07:53
zeus1_what ever onse that crimsun told me07:53
persiazeus1_: You may have to do that again.  The logs are in the topic...07:54
zeus1_like i said ... i took his advise and sound worked perfectly thru the headset...then I rebooted and it doesnt work again!!!07:54
persiazeus1_: You can make sure that modules load on boot by adding their names to /etc/modules07:54
xds_beta3try his advise again?07:54
zeus1_but im not going to do this everytime i have to start up ubuntu again...thats a bunch of BS07:54
zeus1_how07:54
durtwhat did he say to do zeus1_?07:55
persiazeus1_: You could also put all the commands in a file, and run `bash filename` after boot to restore your environment.07:55
ikkys!install07:55
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, ikkys07:55
zeus1_Will this be fixed in breezy?07:55
zeus1_to add USB headset support07:55
carthikcandlelight, the upgrad notes might be interst for the x.org issue : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes07:56
persiaikkys: Are you willing to reformat anything, or do you have some spare partitions?07:56
persiazeus1_: Adding better USB and hotplug audio control is a breezy goal.  I don't know if they're all done yet.07:56
ikkysi have /boot /swap /root from gentoo that i dont want anymore, so what should i do, but hda1,hda2 had windows on it07:57
persiaikkys: When you start the installer, load a console, and delete everything in the partitions you don't want.  Then finish the installer.07:58
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ikkysso i use the normal fdisk method?07:58
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ikkysdoes ubuntu creates its own partitions or i have to create them?07:58
persiaikkys: That should work.07:59
ciluukhi all07:59
persiaikkys: Ubuntu can either create it's own partitions, or you can control the partition creation (with expert mode)07:59
candlelightcarthik, thanks! so that's the upgrade to hoary? I'm going to do it now...07:59
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arcanistheroguehey, what is the ubuntu logo font?08:00
carthikcandlelight, read the notes at the bottom too - should help08:00
Ebowleshow can I find out which sound module I'm using?08:01
ikkyspersia, ok, i have grub installed, so i want the splash screen to still be there, so whats ure suggestion, basicly i have a working linux o/s, just wanna change it to ubuntu08:01
LaserLineIs there a possibility to add items to the GRUB Menu ?08:01
ciluukhow make apt can't search packages from CDROM again?... i wanna install gcc, but my CDROM broken..08:01
arcanistherogueciluuk08:01
arcanistherogueyes08:01
Madpilotdoes "killall gnome-panel" affect the rest of the apps I'm running, or will it leave them alone while gnome-panel restarts?08:01
syn-ackMadpilot: it would just kill the panel08:01
carthikarcanistherogue, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23773.html08:02
dalamaranyone running an ipod shuffle in ubuntu?08:02
syn-ackMadpilot: You would want to use a sighup though, to restart it08:02
Ebowleshow can I find out which sound module I'm using?08:02
arcanistherogueciluuk: i am trying to do the same thing and get slackware.  I have a topic on the ubuntu forums asking about th08:02
LaserLineMadpilot: Usuualy it won't affect, but if you have some software depending on the Gnomepanel or have an icon there they might crash, but that usually doesn't occur.08:02
carthikMadpilot, mine leaves them alone08:02
LaserLineIs there a possibility to add items to the GRUB Menu ?08:02
ikkyspersia, when i boot the computer, it doesnt read the cdrom, it just goes direct to grub, how do i enter the cdrom?08:02
carthikEbowles, right now?08:02
syn-ackLaserLine: Of course there is08:02
persiaikkys: I've never used gentoo, so I'm not familiar with the structure.  I would recommend making a backup of your grub configuration, and then modifying the ubuntu configuration after install.08:02
carthikby default it should be esd08:02
Madpilotsyn-ack: use a what? I thought gnome-panel would restart automaticaly?08:03
LaserLinesyn-ack, how do i do that ??08:03
EbowlesCarthik, how can I change it to alsa?08:03
durtlaserline edit /boot/grub/menu.lst08:03
carthikEbowles, using gmplayer or something?08:03
Virtuallikkys, it's probably your BIOS configuraion... change the boot orfer ?08:03
Virtuallorder*08:03
syn-ackLaserLine: man grub and then check out the docs on the FSF homepage08:03
carthikEbowles, doing a killall esd kills it leaving you free to use also - at elast that is my experience with gmplayer and such earlier...08:04
syn-ackMadpilot: if you kill it, it wont restart... sometimes it does, but it doesnt usually08:04
ciluukarcanistherogue, on mandrake, we can use urpmi-removemedia to romoved apt source08:04
Ebowlescarthik, well I'm trying to watch a video file, and the sound keeps going in and out, and in terminal, it says "alsa output failed unable to write broken pipe"08:04
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persiaEbowles: cat /proc/asound/cards: if your card is there, you're already using ALSA.08:04
Virtuallsyn-ack, it usually does for me08:04
Virtuallsyn-ack, actually it always does08:04
Madpilotsyn-ack: what's the command for kill+restart?08:04
LaserLinesyn-ack, ok. from your knowledge is it possible to add an option for an FSCK complete scan so i won't have to use the livecd to actually fix and scan my filesystem ?08:04
_youngcoderi keep getting invalid file format error when trying to install themes08:04
ciluukEbowles, how about alsactl ?08:04
carthikEbowles, try a "killall esd" if you will...08:04
_youngcoderanyone got any suggestions?08:04
happybabyhello, how can i prevent firefox from saying to website what country I'm from? Or, how can I make websites think that I'm from another country?08:05
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Virtuallhappybaby, lol. it's not firefox08:05
syn-ackLaserLine: you dont even have to do that. You can just run "shutdown -rF now" and it will do it08:05
Virtuallit's your IP08:05
ciluukyoungcoder, what themes?08:05
Ebowleskillall esd left me with no sound now08:05
carthikhappybaby, you can use an anonymizing website to browse anonymously - though i have never done that08:05
LaserLinesyn-ack - that's new to me !!!08:05
persiahappybaby: Depends on the website.  Easiest method is to adjust your locale, and then use a proxy in your target apparent country.08:05
youngcodersleekdragon and another i downloaded from GNOME-Look.org08:05
LaserLinesyn-ack, what kind of scan will it do ?08:05
dalamaranyone running an ipod shuffle in ubuntu?08:06
happybabyhow then can I mask my ip?08:06
syn-ackLaserLine: A full fsck08:06
ciluukyoungcoder, u mean desktop themes for gnome?08:06
Virtuallhappybaby, use anonymous proxies08:06
LaserLinesyn-ack with bad sectors ?08:06
carthikEbowles, doing an "esd" will restart esd08:06
youngcoderGDM theme and GTK2.x themes wont install08:06
happybabybut some websites don't work well with anonymous proxies08:06
syn-ackLaserLine: iirc, it does08:06
Virtuall(actually, anonimous proxy is a baaad thing. they must all die)08:06
youngcoderVirtuall, i agree08:07
LaserLinesyn-ack, you lost me here.........08:07
Ebowlescarthik, okay, so do you know what may be causing the problem?08:07
LaserLinesyn-ack - iirc?08:07
syn-ackLaserLine: If I recall correctly08:07
youngcoderciluuk, GDM theme and GTK2.x themes ..... neither will install08:08
LaserLinesyn-ack: LoL ! is there a way to make it do that, i mean add options to the shutdown command08:08
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syn-ackLaserLine: I just told you...08:08
ikkysso no one can help me?08:08
ciluukhappybaby, mask IP, just contact u r ISP08:08
LaserLinesyn-ack, i like to use "fsck -C -c -f /dev/hda108:08
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LaserLinesyn-ack, i meant for the fsck switc08:08
syn-ackLaserLine: just do "shutdown -rF now" and it will reboot, mount the fs in ro and scan them08:09
carthikEbowles, i am sorry but i dont know really08:09
xulMunkeei'm having problems seeing unicode fonts in ubuntu. this is what a webpage looked like in fedora core http://tinyurl.com/dqu8d  and here is what i see in ubuntu hoary http://tinyurl.com/87o2h08:10
ciluukyoungcoder, usually GDM themes have tar.gz format08:10
youngcoderyes they do08:10
LaserLinesyn-ack, doing it now on my laptop...and it works... but i'm not sure about the badsectors scan...08:10
LaserLinesyn-ack, any idea how do i make it scan badsectors also ? or add a grub line etc...?08:11
syn-ackLaserLine: man shutdown and man fskck and man badblocks08:11
LaserLinesyn-ack fsKsc ? (the extra k is a typo?) badblocks - that's new to me... will be glad to read !08:12
syn-ackyeah, that was a typo08:12
EbowlesI'm trying to watch a video file, and the sound goes off and on, anybody have any ideas?08:13
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LaserLinesyn-ack, I have a recovery question... let's say the system crashes and doesn't boot... fs is dead, how do i scan the fsck w/o the live cd... what i mean is that i don't get into a terminal and able to run the scan.08:13
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MadpilotAny other Opera 8.02 users here?08:14
carthikEbowles, in the player you are using can yyou set the sound output to use esd?08:14
LaserLineyup....08:14
durtoh yeah Madpilot08:14
LaserLinemadpilot - i use opera 8.0208:14
carthikEbowles, what player are you using, btw?08:14
syn-ackLaserLine: does it boot the kernel and then panic?08:14
Ebowlescarthik, that leaves me with no sound, all of them do, except "default"08:14
EbowlesI'm using vlc08:14
Madpilothave a question about something odd my Opera is doing - anyone else find it ramping up to 100% CPU usage just to load an ordinary page in the background?08:14
No1VikingAnyone know of a good FTP client with SSL?08:14
MadpilotOpera 8 & 8.01 didn't do this...08:14
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LaserLinesyn-ack, it used to but i was able to fix it... i'm asking in general..but let's say it does (it was kind of a fluk me fixing it).08:15
durtusing system-monitor madpilot?08:15
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persiaNo1Viking: ftp-ssl?08:15
syn-ackLaserLine: Honestly, Ive never had anything like that happen, so I dont know..08:15
Madpilotdurt: yeah, I've got CPU, Network & RAM windows at the bottom of my screen - but Opera gets sluggish, too, which is NOT normal...08:15
CrackersKeenanhas anyone had problems exporting to mpeg in KINO?08:16
carthikEbowles, there should be a package calleed vlc-plugin-esd - if you can get that and change the audio output to esd it should work fine08:16
durtMadpilot: nope mine doesnt do that08:16
carthikNo1Viking, gftp?08:16
durtopera is usually very fast08:16
Madpilotdurt: mine has just started in the last day or two, actually, it used to be fine...08:16
No1Vikingcarthik, gftp has SSH, not SSL08:17
carthikNo1Viking, oh - my bad08:17
durtMadpilot: and everything else works normally?08:17
LaserLinesyn-ack, Gee, thanks, if you'll ever have, I might be able to help, coz i'm learning tons about this on mmy laptop (it's quite interesting)... by the way, about badblocks, i'm reading the man now, but don't understand something.......the HD has to be unmoundet or is it ok to be mounted ?08:17
No1Vikingpersia, ftp-ssl is a server08:17
Madpilotdurt: the rest of Ubuntu? yeah.08:17
syn-ackLaserLine: Like any checks to the FS, it needs to be unmounted08:18
Madpilotdurt: I might do the Windows thing and try to reboot - this started after the last time I rebooted, three or four days ago...08:18
syn-ackrather mounted ro08:18
LaserLinesyn-ack, so I have to use the livecd or is there another way of runing this scan ? (what is mounted ro??)08:18
No1VikingAnyone know of a good FTP client with SSL support, with some kind of GUI?08:18
syn-ackLaserLine: Just remount the FS's ro08:19
carthikEbowles, the econd message on this thread should help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24345.html08:19
persiaNo1Viking: I've a package installed on my workstation called "ftp-ssl".  It provides an ftp binary, which works as a client.  I believe there is also a server package from the same source, but there is no requirement to install the server.08:19
syn-ackLaserLine: that would be found in man mount08:19
ciluukNo1Viking, how about GFTP ?08:19
LaserLinesyn-ack reading that now :D08:19
persiaNo1Viking: Ahh...  No GUI.  Sorry.08:19
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LaserLinesyn-ack - I don't undestand that man page at all!08:20
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persiaLaserLine: `mount /foo -o remount,ro`08:20
syn-ackpersia: heh, I know that theres an example in the man for that, thats why I refered him to it.08:21
LaserLinepersia, I don't like to copy-paste, I rather understand.... but It's kinda hard.... What is the logic behind me remounting ?08:21
syn-ackLaserLine: So you dont toast the filesystem08:21
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persiaLaserLine: I'm going to defer to syn-ack: he's leading you in a more suitable direction.08:21
LaserLinepersia, when the system boots, how is the hard-drive being mounted ?08:21
LaserLinepersia, don't get me wrong...I like reading the man - that's the only way to learn, but it uses terms i don't understand :-(08:22
syn-ackLaserLine: when it reboots, init will tell it to boot to reboot to whatever the clean state was when it was powered down08:22
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LaserLinesyn-ack ok... but in the menu.list there is a line says root=/dev/hda1 ro08:23
LaserLinesyn-ack what does that mean ?08:23
xulMunkeehow to enable pango in all GTK apps without recompling them?08:24
syn-ackright, that tells GRUB where the kernel is and how its initally mounted untill fsck checks the mount state and remounts it rw08:24
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xulMunkeea08:24
LaserLinesyn-ack ... ok - now i get it...08:24
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LaserLinesyn-ack so after fsck is done, it remounts to rw automatically?08:25
syn-ackLaserLine: The proceedure is rather simple to understand08:25
syn-ackLaserLine: now you're getting it08:25
LaserLinesyn-ack what is the /foo do ?08:26
syn-ackthats the mountpoint.08:26
syn-ackits all in the mount manpage. ;)08:26
LaserLinesyn-ack I can't find it there... I found the -o (now i understand)...08:27
LaserLinesyn-ack tryied to search in man - but i can't find the /foo :-(08:28
syn-acklook for "mountpoints"08:28
LaserLinesyn-ack I searched for "points" ---> Pattern not found....08:29
syn-ackbasically, the foo is the part of the FS that is that root or where the partiton is... what you are telling mount to do is mount that partition in such and such way08:29
LaserLinesyn-ack ok... so after i mount that as read only, I run the FSCK with the options i preffer and after the scan i need to remount it as rw or just continue as usuall ?08:30
syn-ackyou would remount as rw and then continue the normal boot or even just reboot and let init take its course08:31
LaserLinesyn-ack .....ohh so i have to reboot after ? i thought i could continue work...08:32
syn-ackDont have to, but its the easiest way to do it08:32
LaserLinesyn-ack - to understand properly (so me not frying my system) i boot normally... to X (gnome) open a root terminal. write the mount command, run fsck, run the mount command again, and continue work --- or i have to reboot?08:33
syn-ackno no, you dont want to be in x... Kill it and run in the console08:33
LaserLinesyn-ack ok... so easiest is to run recovery kerel, enter the root password for maintenece and the do all that...08:34
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LaserLinesyn-ack :D :D :D :D I got it ... hehe :D08:35
LaserLinesyn-ack (if i could only find these mountpoints in the man page...err !)08:35
syn-ackyeah, now remember, Ubuntu doesnt let you set the root pass, you would have to set that or sudo -s to the root console08:35
LaserLinesyn-ack already did that, i use ubuntu for 5 months now... but now after i got my laptop's battery fixed I'm trying to make it hibernate.08:36
LaserLinesyn-ack Hibernate works after adding the resume=/dev/hda5 (my swap) to the KOPT line08:36
syn-ackoooh, hibernate is a Bad Thing at this point08:36
syn-ackStill very much beta08:37
LaserLinesyn-ack and standby to memory kills half my system...08:37
durtmadpilot: maybe ask about your problem at #opera on efnet08:37
LaserLinesyn-ack so I got serious filesystem damage.......atleast HAD !08:37
LaserLinesyn-ack the FS recovery tools in Linux are amazing :-)08:37
LaserLinesyn-ack when i run FSCK -c it really calls badclocks, so I don't have to run that either, right ?08:38
syn-ackwell, not nessisarily serious, maybe some inconsitancy or some such08:38
syn-ackLaserLine: right08:38
LaserLinesyn-ack, You helped me alot !! thank you very very much ! (I hope i'd see you here again)08:39
LaserLinesyn-ack Bye for now :)08:40
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rob^does anyone have any idea where the OOo2 icons are on the system?08:42
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ciluuksplit08:43
rob^ya08:44
syn-ackLaserLine: Looks like they dont have the new servers bugs worked out all that well, eh08:44
Madpilottest?08:45
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durtrob^: /usr/lib/openoffice2/share/xdg i guess08:48
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rob^nup08:54
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scanwinderis there a command to hibernate?08:54
GNULinuxerscanwinder: echo mem > /sys/state/power08:55
GNULinuxerscanwinder: echo disk > /sys/state/power08:55
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scanwinderGNULinuxer: neither of those seemed 2 work08:56
GNULinuxerscanwinder: you don't have support for those things in that case08:57
scanwinderGNULinuxer: so its not possible?08:57
GNULinuxerscanwinder: just cat /sys/power/state and show me the output08:58
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scanwinderGNULinuxer: standby mem disk08:58
GNULinuxerscanwinder: hmm ... which laptop?08:59
scanwindercompaq armada 1560D (pentium 1, 166)08:59
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durthow in the hell did you get ubuntu on that thing?09:00
GNULinuxerscanwinder: my god09:00
syn-ackI can fit it on less.09:00
scanwinderlol i had to enable swap to get the installer to work09:00
scanwinder32mb ram isnt enough09:01
syn-ackIve done it on systems with a 486 in them09:01
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durtsure, if you dont install x09:01
scanwinderive got X on it09:01
scanwinderim usin openbox09:01
scanwinderruns ok09:01
CrackersKeenananyone had problems with exporting files in KINO?  I can capture but I can't export files as mpegs09:02
scanwinderanyway, how can i get standby/hibernation or something similar workin on it?09:02
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cyphaseThis is pretty old, but just in case you haven't seen it.. http://www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/09:03
klepascyphase: seen that - it was gold09:03
skullrican someone help me09:04
skullriwell i'm having problem trying to install gaim09:04
NoUseskullri what kind of problem?09:04
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scanwinderskullri: what's the problem?09:05
skullriwell i download the source09:06
skullriand i unpacked it09:06
NoUseskullri stop rigth there09:06
NoUseskullri sudo apt-get install gaim09:07
skullrino09:07
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skullrii want to install 1.5.009:07
skullriapt-get has 1.4.009:07
durtwhy not the auto package skullri?09:07
klepas# apt-get update09:07
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skullriauto package09:07
klepaswill update the lists09:08
skullrino klepas09:08
klepasand then you should be able to download 1.5.009:08
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skullriit should be in the repositories09:08
durtget the autopackage not the source09:08
NoUse!info gaim09:08
ubotugaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 825 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB09:08
skullri1.4.109:08
durt... or upgrade to breezy :)09:08
skullrinoo09:08
skullristill unstable09:09
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skullriwell09:09
durtyour not very cooperative skullri09:09
NoUseskullri try to stick to package whenever possible, mixing package databases and built from source software is asking for trouble09:09
skullrii tried ./configure09:09
skullriand i got an error09:09
hondjewhat does 1.5 have that 1.4 doesn't?09:09
hondjeEveryone seems so anxious to install it09:09
durtskullri: get the autopackage not the source!!!09:10
skullridurt, it is the guide do not upgrade to breezy09:10
hondjeor rebuild the .deb from breezy for gaim...09:10
durtyou dont have to!09:10
hondjemake it magic with /etc/apt/preferences09:10
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durtgo here! http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php09:10
hondjelots of options besides building it09:10
durtand click on the autopackage one09:11
skullribut anyway i have to learn how to install source09:11
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durtnot when you dont have to!09:11
durtwhen you want the latest cvs of something, etc., you can learn how to compile09:12
durtdont make it harder than it has to be09:12
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skullribut i want to learn how to compile source09:12
skullrithey run faster09:12
durtits the same thing09:13
klepasheck, my version of Gaim is 1.1.409:13
klepasdoesn't bother me...09:13
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NoUseskullri you really won't see a performance boost while chatting with your AIM friends09:13
hondjehaha, run faster09:13
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durtyeah, i really cannot tell the difference between the versions09:14
skullriopen faster09:14
klepas*why are you typing so much faster than me...!?* lol09:14
klepas:-)09:14
hondjethat's silly09:14
klepasskullri: just wait a month or so for breezy09:14
klepas:-)09:14
hondjecompiling gaim yourself isn't going to make the wm repaint it faster or something09:15
klepas!info synaptic09:15
ubotusynaptic: (Graphical package manager), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.55+cvs20050406-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1022 kB, Installed size: 4756 kB09:15
klepasmmh09:15
klepasneed to update that09:15
skullrihuh09:16
skullrithis is the error that i get09:17
skullrior got09:17
skullriNo package 'silcclient' found09:17
skullrichecking for silc... Package silc was not found in the pkg-config search path.09:17
skullriPerhaps you should add the directory containing `silc.pc'09:17
skullrito the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable09:17
skullriNo package 'silc' found09:17
skullrichecking sys/utsname.h usability... yes09:17
skullrichecking sys/utsname.h presence... yes09:17
skullrichecking for sys/utsname.h... yes09:17
klepasahh!09:17
klepasstop09:17
skullrichecking for uname... yes09:17
skullrichecking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/bin/pkg-config09:17
skullrichecking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0...09:17
klepasstick it into an empty channel!09:17
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skullri*** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.8.0, but GLIB (2.6.3)09:17
skullri*** was found! If pkg-config was correct, then it is best09:17
skullri*** to remove the old version of GLib. You may also be able to fix the error09:17
skullri*** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing09:17
skullri*** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is09:17
skullri*** required on your system.09:17
skullri*** If pkg-config was wrong, set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH09:17
klepasor not...09:17
skullri*** to point to the correct configuration files09:17
skullriohh09:17
klepas:-(09:17
durtwell get the newer glib09:17
skullrihaha09:18
skullrii did09:18
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skullribut its another source09:18
durtbut that will lead you on a painful path09:18
klepasskullri: wait for breezy09:18
Madpilot!tell skullri about pastebin09:18
durtbecause you will run into innumerable dependecies09:18
klepasthere really won't be much difference between gaim 1.4 and 1.509:18
hondjeyay, lets replace glib!09:18
skullrihow09:19
hondjeYou probably shouldn't do it09:20
skullrimaybe09:20
skullribut how can i do it09:20
durtyou are pissing me off skullri :)09:21
skullrihaha09:21
skullriwait09:21
skullrii'm just trying to learn09:21
klepasyou could get an RPM system?09:21
klepas:-P09:21
klepas[based system] 09:22
skullridurt, and then i'll give support09:22
hondjeseriously skullri, if you didn't get my joke you really shouldn't do it09:22
durti know youre just trying to lean09:22
durtbut trust me, this isnt the best way to do it09:22
durtits a good way to get really really frustrated though09:23
skullriyeah i know but i'll become crazy if i continue alone09:23
NoUseskullri to replace glib for gaim is like replacing your engine for new windshield wipers09:23
hondjelol09:24
hondjethat about sums it up :)09:24
skullribut HOW CAN i replace glib09:24
NoUsegoogle might tell you, cause I'm not going to09:24
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skullrihahaha09:25
skullrigoogle is going to block me09:25
SemionsiHi all09:25
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durthi09:26
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gantchevhi09:27
durthi09:27
gantchevi have a problem with mpeg stream09:27
gantchevmessage : there is no element present to handle the stream mime type audio/mpeg09:27
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gantchevsomeone with the same pb ?09:28
Madpilotgantchev: have you added the audio codecs to Ubuntu?09:28
Madpilot!mp309:28
ubotuhmm... mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support09:28
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gantchevi'll check the link09:29
Madpilotgantchev: ubotu's link above will have mpg support as well09:29
durtgantchev https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Codecs09:29
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pinpointdarn09:30
pinpointim i joining too fast for it to realize me09:30
hondjeskullri: so why were you going to replace gaim anyway?09:30
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candlelightis ubotu a bot?09:32
Madpilot!ubotu09:33
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:33
Madpilot!good bot09:33
ubotu:)09:33
durt!bad bot09:33
ubotubad durt!09:33
candlelightwow! ubotu can remember all the wiki pages... impressive09:33
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Madpilot!lart durt09:34
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durt!lart Madpilot09:34
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durtMadpilot: you fix opera yet?09:34
Madpilotcandlelight: ubotu only remembers what ppl tell it, not the entire wiki by default09:34
Madpilotdurt: it's still being odd. I'll reboot later and see what happens09:35
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durtmaybe you should try the beta version 8.1009:35
Madpilot(and yes, I know that's a recovering-Windows-victim thing to do, but it does work even with Linux...) ;)09:35
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JakGCHi folks. I have a question about upgrading to Hoary from Warty. I have the Hoary install from shippit. I understand I need to use apt (Synaptic actually). I have changed the repository references for distribution, except for the ref to the CD. What do I change cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / to?09:42
JakGCps Sorry its a long question09:42
candlelightjakgc: i think if u have the cd, you can add it to the synaptic09:43
JakGCYes candlelight... What is the string to use?09:43
JakGC.. the Warty one is above... I need the equivalent from thbe Hoary CD09:44
MadpilotJakGC: just removing the CD from sources should be fine09:44
NoUsedoesn't ubuntu prompt you to upgrade when you put a ubuntu CD in the drive?09:44
gorillaum, guys what's with #ubuntu-unregged?09:44
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JakGCMadpilot: then the upgrade will get the whole >480mb off the 'net... too slow from here09:44
phayze2gorilla: for users that aren't registered with nickserv09:45
JakGCNoUse: my understanding is that it will replace the whole partition... a bit destructive!!09:45
candlelightjakgc: i just learn from this channel:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes09:45
gorillaphayze2, oh.. it must have been becuase my client joined the channel before it registered my nic on startup :-(09:46
NoUseJakGC: ouch, yeah just a bit09:46
MadpilotJakGC: ah, OK09:46
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NoUse!upgrade09:46
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:46
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znhhello09:47
znhI am searching a firewall to block outbound ports09:48
gantchevMadpilot, ok i nstalled the codecs for the restricted formats.09:48
gantchevthere's no more error messages09:48
gantchevbut there's nos sound either :)09:48
JakGCTa Candlelight.  I read it before.. Its still not clear though...09:49
NoUse!firewall09:49
ubotusomebody said firewall was Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.09:49
Madpilotgantchev: ouch. no idea, sorry. My sound has always just worked...09:49
znhthanks NoUse09:50
NoUseznh np09:50
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gantchevMadpilot, ok thx anyway :)09:50
gorillawhat will play quicktime and/or divx files that is avlaible for hoary?09:50
Madpilotgantchev: he doesn't seem to be around right now, but look crimsun up at some point, he seems to be the resident sound guru09:50
NoUsegorilla mplayer or xine09:50
znhgorilla: vlc is awesome09:50
Madpilotgorilla: anything, if you've got the codecs installed09:51
Madpilot!restricted09:51
ubotumethinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:51
Madpilotgorilla: go to the URL that ubotu's got above ^^^09:51
gantchevMadpilot, ok i'll look for him.. thx09:51
gorillaMadpilot, thanks for that link... :-)09:51
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maeHey I know this is a bit O/T but  does anyone happen to know a good online guide to taking apart your ipod mini, at least how to get the outer casing off? I have been googling for probably an hour09:52
Adrosshas anyone succesfully install dashboard?09:52
spiralhi09:53
klepasmoin moin09:53
shinuis it normal that downloading mail from gmail makes me download whole conversation? (which means also the things i sent)09:57
JakGCOK ppl, and candlelight... Thanks: (In Synaptic "Click on "Edit/Add CD-ROM" as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryUpgradeNotes registers the new Hoary CD repository.)09:57
Adrossshinu: yes09:57
shinuor is it just something i didnt configure properly?09:57
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znhNoUse: firestarter doesn't have the function to block ports09:57
shinuAdross: any way to turn this conversation mode off or something?09:58
NoUseznh then you'll have to learn IP tables09:58
znhNoUse: nevermind, I see already that it's possible09:59
JakGC... Now I just 'Mark All Upgrades' and Apply' and go have a quick beer, not a slow one as the upgrades should come mostly straight from the CD.09:59
gantchevseeya09:59
Adrossshinu: not sure, poke around in the gmail page09:59
JakGCThanks again for the instant help.10:00
shinuAdross: you just put up with dling everything? :D10:00
JakGCbye10:00
Adrossshinu: i like that feature10:00
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shinuheh10:00
shinuok thanks10:00
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gantchevMadpilot, yes it works with xmms and libesdout.so10:05
gantchev:) cool10:05
shinuAdross: it appears that this option im looking for is not yet implemented :D10:06
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ikkyshi10:08
znhhmm I'd like to block ports to everyone except on my lan network.. but how?10:08
ikkyshow do i configure my resolution, the options that i have on gnome is only 640-48010:08
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NoUse!resolution10:08
uboturumour has it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:08
Madpilotgood night/morning/$time_of_day, everyone. need sleep...10:09
Malinare there any command list for ubotu?10:09
ikkysthanks10:09
Malin!ubotu10:09
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:09
Malin:-)10:09
Malin!add10:09
ubotufrom memory, add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets10:09
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frans-this this a real ubuntu channel?10:10
gantchevMadpilot, bye10:10
timtuxYhea10:10
timtuxThe official10:10
frans-thi join this, and Seveas move me to ubuntu-unregged10:10
frans-thwhat happen?10:10
timtuxfrans-th, you need to be authed/registred on FreeNode10:11
NoUsefrans-th your nick has to be registered with NickServ to be here I believe10:11
frans-thoh,10:11
frans-thi forgot to do a identify :P10:11
timtux:-)10:11
pinpointfrans-th, perhaps you are joining to fast10:11
candlelighthow to use lvm2 for ubuntu? assuming fresh install10:11
frans-thto fast?10:11
frans-th:)10:11
pinpointso the client doesnt identify in enough time for you to jump into #ubuntu10:11
frans-thi am not a good chat man :P10:12
pinpointusing xchat?10:12
frans-thi use mirc and xchat10:12
pinpointmirc should be fine but xchat... i doubt it10:12
timtuxxchat z310:13
timtux<3*10:13
pinpointyou'll have to do some... perl/python mods10:13
frans-thi am searching a mirc like chat client.10:13
frans-thmods?10:13
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gorillaxchat has an issue where it joins before identifying your nick :-(10:14
timtuxyhea10:14
frans-thanyway, who is belutz :) indonesian guy?10:14
Belutzfrans-th: yup :D10:14
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pinpointfrans-th, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nocloakxchat10:14
NapalmzQqun a un suggestion de CMS "Content management system" en dehors de dokuwiki, plone, zope, php-nuke?10:14
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frans-thplone is cool10:16
ikkyswhen walking thru the installation, the system ask to create a user, now i can login as user but how do i login as root?10:16
wolverianI like bricolage.10:16
Tomcat_!rootsudo10:17
ubotufrom memory, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:17
Tomcat_ikkys: Read that. :)10:17
ikkysthanks tomcat_10:17
frans-thhi all, know how to restart apache2?10:18
frans-thi got fail message10:18
frans-thbut of course not from /etc/init.d/apache2 start10:18
pinpointfrans-th, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart10:20
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Phantomcircuit-Aweird10:20
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Phantomcircuit-Aa ton of people just joined10:20
Phantomcircuit-Awhy does this smell like a botnet?10:20
No1VikingScript?10:20
No1VikingYeah10:21
bmecoli-I'm not one10:21
Phantomcircuit-Athey are joining at random intervels10:21
bmecoli-I swear10:21
bmecoli->.>10:21
frans-thpinpoint: i did that, i just asking may be like service apache2 restart10:21
bmecoli-<.<10:21
pinpointand from random places10:21
onkarshindeI am unable to play DVD on Hoary using totem. Can someone help me? I have installed all the necessary packages.10:21
frans-thpinpoint: which i found in fedora related.10:21
pinpointperhaps10:21
Tomcat_onkarshinde: libdvdcss2?10:22
bmecoli-hey, anyone having any luck plaing games with dosemu?10:22
DjKritical3Does anyone know of a guide for mounting other ext3 partitions in ubuntu?10:22
bmecoli-is it really slow at all?10:22
onkarshindeTomcat_: Yes. I did. Even mpeg2 plugin for gstreamer.10:23
bmecoli-in relation to dosbox (which is snail speed)10:23
Tomcat_onkarshinde: I doubt it'll work with totem-gstreamer... usually you have to get totem-xine.10:23
onkarshindeTomcat_: I am able to play dvds with vlc. But the video stops in between.10:24
pinpointxine works well on my box10:24
onkarshindeTomcat_: I will try xine10:24
frans-thonkar: what is vlc?10:24
pinpointvideolan10:25
pinpointvideolan.org10:25
pinpointits a media player10:25
pinpointcompact but very heavy duty10:25
frans-thnever hear :)10:25
pinpointimho10:25
markumanhi, does anyone use here gimp? how can i get on jpg rgb picture to one cmyk picture?10:26
bmecoli-um....10:26
bmecoli-did anyone hear me? ;p10:26
onkarshindefrans-th: vlc is good. It mostly works out of box. And avialable for win, lin & mac10:26
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Tomcat_bmecoli-: I have only tried dosbox so far and it worked well (though only on the speed of a fast 386), so I have nothing to tell you. ;)10:28
onkarshindeI am having smartlink modem on my dads HP laptop. I am able to dial. But there is no sound of dialling. How do i enable that sound?10:28
DjKritical3Does ubuntu have a drive partitioning program?... or something which sets up fstab?... or is it more appropriate to do it manually?10:28
DjKritical3post-install10:28
DjKritical3(second harddisk)10:29
frans-thDj: like diskdrake right10:29
DjKritical3oh okay? is that what it's called? =)10:29
frans-th:P10:30
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DjKritical3That doesn't seem to be apart of the supported repositories tho? universe?10:30
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NoUseDjKritical3 diskdrake is the partitioner mandrake uses, there is parted (or GUI qtparted) but that doesn't setup fstab for you10:33
frans-thqtparted? it is kde right...10:34
DjKritical3I should be able to do that... I was sort-of asking is that was still the correct way to do things in ubuntu10:34
NoUseit just written using the Qt toolkit10:34
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NoUseDjKritical3 I don't think there is a officially santioned way10:35
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DjKritical3ahh I see10:36
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DjKritical3That would be a really handy tool for future releases =)10:36
frans-thoh, will gforge become part of the universe?10:38
NoUsefrans-th not sure10:39
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brownie17hello?10:44
brownie17Seveas?10:44
brownie17Can anyone help me?10:44
brownie17i have a boot problem10:44
frans-thanyone know how to refresh my apache2, i try install gforge from rolan website, and now my apache wont run10:44
brownie17i have ubuntu dual booting with windows xp, and i changed the size of the windows xp partition, and deleted an old partition, and now windows xp won't run10:45
brownie17i did this to the partittion through windows, but now i cant get back to see whats wrong10:45
onkarshindebrownie17: What exactly do you mean by won't run?10:45
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brownie17it says "no such partition"10:46
brownie17from the grub boot loader10:46
onkarshindebrownie17: Most probably deleting the old partition changed the partition table. And not MBR is enable to find GRUB's configuration on expected partition.10:47
brownie17i dont know why, but i think maybe that the boot loader it went to after i clicked windows xp (that let me choose between 98 & xp) was actually from windows 9810:47
brownie17and when i deleted the partition with win 98 on it, GRUB now doesn't know where to take me10:48
brownie17Whats that about MBR?10:48
brownie17im confused10:48
brownie17do you know how i can rectify the situation?10:48
onkarshindebrownie17: No you are wrong10:48
brownie17because i really need that windows XP10:48
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brownie17i don't really know, that was a guess10:48
brownie17you would know more about it10:48
onkarshindeThe bootloader for 98 & Xp was from XP. So it might not be harmed at all10:49
robotgeekhi, would anyone know where to file a bug for breezy?10:49
onkarshindeDo one thing.10:49
brownie17whats that?10:49
robotgeekbrownie17: new version of ubuntu, out in october..now in testing :)10:49
onkarshindebrownie17: If you have Ubuntu CD, boot in rescue mode & try changing grub's config10:49
DjKritical3by default the main ubuntu partition is ext3 right?... I've got the system drive from another ubuntu pc in this pc... and I can't mount it using ext3? anyone know why it might be saying wrong fs type?10:49
robotgeekbrownie17: sorry, i misunderstood10:50
brownie17ok, but i dont really know anything about it, and i am a complete newbie, so i might have alot of difficulty, are there some more specific instructinos you can give me?10:50
brownie17will there be a tutorial of some sort on the internet?10:50
onkarshindebrownie17: Are you able to boot into Ubuntu?10:50
brownie17yes, i am in ubuntu now10:50
brownie17not the live version, but the installed one10:50
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deFryskbrownie17, thats cool :)10:51
onkarshindebrownie17: Then tell me output of 'fdisk -l'10:51
brownie17ok10:51
onkarshindesorry, fdisk -l /dev/hda10:51
brownie17ok10:51
brownie17cannot open /dev/hda10:52
brownie17thats what it says10:52
robotgeekis the bugzilla for breezy same as bugzilla at ubuntu? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com ?10:52
deFryskbrownie17, he forgot to mention to use sudo10:52
robotgeekbrownie17: sudo10:52
brownie17sudo?10:52
brownie17more specifically?10:52
brownie17i only just got my first installation of linux10:52
robotgeek!sudo10:52
ubotumethinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:52
deFrysk!sudo10:52
deFryskdrn L:10:53
onkarshindeJust wait. Do 'cat /boot/grub/menu.list' And tell me the lines that correspond to XP10:53
brownie17cat: /boot/grub/menu.list: No such file or directory10:53
robotgeekdeFrysk: :)10:53
deFrysk;p10:53
onkarshindebrownie17: sorry, meny.lst and not menu.list10:54
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robotgeekbrownie17: make that menu.lst10:54
ZincX/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl10:54
ZincXcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status10:54
ZincXmake[4] : *** [perl.la]  Error 110:54
ZincXmake[4] : Leaving directory `/home/sasquach/xchat-2.4.4/plugins/perl'10:54
ZincXi had that problem10:54
robotgeekZincX: use the pastebin10:55
brownie17cat: /boot/grub/meny.lst: No such file or directory10:55
brownie17i have no idea how to use the paste bin10:55
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robotgeek!pastebin10:55
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:55
sentinelhi, I just noticed that the timezone doesn't account for daylight savings... is there a way to change that?10:55
robotgeekyou just go to that link at the end, and paste whatever you want in there. then, paste back the url in here so that everyone can see10:55
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brownie17onkarshinde: what do i do!?10:56
dennis_pointless for stuff 3-4 lines though10:56
dennis_:/10:56
ZincXhmm10:56
dennis_So don't be like 'pastebin' because he only posted 3 lines during inactivity :/10:56
DjKritical3ETX-3 fs group discriptors corrupted o_O? is this fixable?10:57
ZincX4 lines10:57
robotgeekdennis_: i am mostly here during the day, ops generally would generally do that!10:57
dennis_How dumb10:57
ZincXhow can i correc that ?10:57
dennis_If it isn't busy who cares if he only posted 3 lines :/10:57
ZincXlperl thing10:57
robotgeekdennis_: it is a lot busier during the day :)10:57
dennis_i know10:58
dennis_It is 2 Am here :/10:58
brownie17http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/167310:58
robotgeekdennis_: it 4 am here !10:58
dennis_I'm scrambling to finish summer assignments10:58
brownie17onkarshinde: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/167310:58
dennis_i have 1 more day :/10:58
robotgeekhaha...i graduated!!10:58
sentinelI just noticed that the timezone doesn't account for daylight savings... is there a way to change that?10:58
dennis_I'm a sophmore in HS10:58
gorillasentinel, it should do if your hardware clock is in utc.10:58
ZincXsheesh :S u guys are too busy arguiing10:58
brownie17can someone help me?10:58
robotgeeki am a grad student, rather was!10:58
sentinelgorilla: I haven't used the hardware clock setting10:59
brownie17can you please talk about school and the like somewhere else? if you dont mind. this is a support channel10:59
robotgeeksentinel: try tzconfig, though i am not sure if it allows for utc setting10:59
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robotgeekbrownie17: i am on ppc, don't do grub11:00
brownie17onkarshinde?11:00
brownie17whats ppc?11:00
ZincXsoo.. tell me :)11:00
brownie17im confused11:00
sentinelrobotgeek: Your current time zone is set to Europe/London, Your time zone will not be changed, nothing there for daylight savings11:00
robotgeekbrownie17: apple, powerpc11:00
brownie17ok11:00
brownie17why dont do grub?11:00
brownie17can someone please just tell me , no jargon, how to fix this11:01
brownie17i need that windows xp, and i am not advanced enough to chance bootloader, or do anything hard11:01
robotgeeksentinel: open up /etc/default/rcS11:02
robotgeeksentinel: more details in "man tzconfig"11:02
brownie17Robotgeek: can you please help me?11:02
brownie17robotgeek: or refer me to someone who can?11:02
brownie17robotgeek: im despreate11:02
robotgeekbrownie17: lemme look11:02
cyphasewhy does synaptic want to remove at, lsb, mailx, mutt, and tripwire when i try to remove hula-manager?11:02
kemikbrownie17:  what do you mean "need windows xp" ? it doesnt show up as an option when you boot?11:02
brownie17it shows up, but i cant acces it, it says 'no such partition'11:03
robotgeeksentinel: set utc=no/yes in /etc/default/rcS11:03
brownie17i need it becasue i do not have drivers for my printer or anything i need in linux11:03
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kemikbrownie17:  try "fdisk -l"11:03
brownie17it doesnt work11:03
kemikor rather DO fdisk -l11:03
kemikwhat ?11:04
ciluukbrownie17 i need that windows xp, and i am not advanced enough to chance bootloader, or do anything hard --> mail to support@microsoft.com :))11:04
robotgeekkemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1673 is his grub.lst11:04
kemikrobotgeek:  yeah, but i wanna know where his NTFS partition is11:04
robotgeekkemik: k11:04
brownie17i have two harddrives, and microsoft are too crap to even try and help me11:04
kemikbrownie17:  are you sure there are no printerdrivers available for your printer btw ?11:05
brownie17very sure11:05
brownie17i looked for hours11:05
brownie17but thats not the only reason, the others are more important11:05
kemikbrownie17:  so windows is on one HD and linux on the other right ?11:05
brownie17yes11:05
brownie17kemik: yes your right11:05
kemiki think you can boot from the windows cd11:06
kemikand use fixmbr11:06
robotgeek!info vlc11:06
brownie17i do not have the windows cp11:06
kemikthat will render your ubuntu install useless of course11:06
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB11:06
brownie17cd11:06
kemikheh11:06
brownie17kemik: i borrowed a burnt copy11:06
cyphase!info ubuntu11:06
cyphasetsk tsk11:07
fekmoin11:07
kemikbrownie17:  should have made a copy yourself instead.. oh well11:07
brownie17kemik: linux is too difficult, there should be an easy way to acces the grub bootloader11:07
robotgeekcyphase: are u a victim of bot abuse?11:07
sentinelone other thing while i'm here... is there a way to speed up the login process? when logging in via ssh it seems to hang there for about 5secs before prompting for the password11:07
cyphaserobotgeek, no..11:07
kemikbrownie17:  you've never been able to boot winxp since you installed ubuntu?11:08
kemik(and yes, linux is still too hard for computer novices)11:08
robotgeekkemik: unless u have a old machine :(11:08
cyphasekemik, not all computer novices11:08
ZincX:S11:08
brownie17yes, i could. but then i resized the windows partititon, and deleted another partitino on the same drive11:08
ZincXhow do i mount my other hdd ?11:08
robotgeeksentinel: don't know abt that one!11:08
ZincXautomatically ?11:08
sentinel:)11:08
brownie17kemik: the other partition had windows 98 on it11:09
kemikhm. well do "fdisk -l" in a terminal window11:09
kemikrobotgeek:  what? =)11:09
robotgeekZincX: for your other problem, i would see if installing and reinstalling perl package with "apt-get install --reinstall perl-package" and see if that works11:09
brownie17Disk /dev/sda: 519 MB, 519569408 bytes11:09
brownie17129 heads, 32 sectors/track, 245 cylinders11:09
brownie17Units = cylinders of 4128 * 512 = 2113536 bytes11:09
brownie17   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System11:09
brownie17/dev/sda1               1         246      507376    4  FAT16 <32M11:09
brownie17Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:11:09
brownie17     phys=(249, 128, 32) logical=(245, 106, 32)11:09
kemikargh11:09
brownie17fraser@brownie:~$11:09
kemik!pastebin11:09
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:09
kemikNEVER paste in here11:09
brownie17ok11:09
brownie17i thought it was smaller11:09
brownie17sorry11:09
brownie17http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/167411:10
robotgeekZincX: you could put it in your fstab?11:10
brownie17Kemik: in recovery mode, how do i edit the grub boot loader?11:10
kemikbrownie17:  do this instead "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda"11:10
kemikand paste that11:11
kemik!ntfs11:11
ubotu[ntfs]  the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.11:11
kemikthat will probably help you ZincX11:11
kemikuse that script11:11
ZincXhmm11:12
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brownie17kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/167511:12
youngcoderanyone feel like helping me with samba?11:13
ZincXmy net connection is slow :@11:13
ZincXdamn my isp11:13
ikkysguys, is there a normal font thats not BOLD in linux or ubuntu?11:13
robotgeekZincX: most probably, u have the packages cached11:13
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brownie17Kemik: what now?11:15
youngcodercan anyone help me with samba?11:15
gorillayoungcoder, you are asking to ask, just ask :-)11:15
robotgeekyoungcoder: if you have a specific problem, please state it!11:15
kemikbrownie17:  edit your grubconfig as such: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/167611:15
kemikbrownie17:  it's in the bottom (4 rows from bottom)11:15
kemik!anyone11:15
ubotuanyone is, like, 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>11:15
ompaulikkys, lots, can you put your question in some context please11:16
youngcodermy windows box wont recognize my linux box11:16
youngcoderwhat is wrong?11:16
kemikyoungcoder:  lots of things11:16
brownie17Kemik: are you sure that will work?11:16
kemikyoungcoder:  can you ping between the boxes?11:16
youngcoderkemik, lol i know11:16
kemikbrownie17:  not 100% no.. try ;)11:16
youngcoderkemik, im not sure i dont know how11:16
brownie17kemik: ok, ill try it, i will be back in two minutes11:17
kemikin a terminal "ping IPnumberOfWindowsMachine"11:17
kemikyoungcoder:  if you have a firewall it may block pings etc11:17
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brownie17kemik: do i have to restart in recovery mode to acces bootloader?11:17
ZincXrobotgeek,11:17
ZincXReading package lists... Done11:17
ZincXBuilding dependency tree... Done11:17
ZincXE: Couldn't find package perl-package11:17
gorillabrownie17, no you don't... generally anyway..11:17
robotgeekZincX: okay, i meant if you were looking at a specific perl package, hol on11:18
robotgeekZincX: *hold on11:18
ikkysompaul, well, all the font from system font looks bold, is there like a true type font i can use? those like in windows, the thin type?11:18
ZincXrobotgeek, ok thnx. got it :D11:18
ompaulikkys, what which application / environment - there are 16k apps available11:19
robotgeekZincX: cool11:19
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ZincX:)11:20
ZincXthnx11:20
ZincXnow brb11:20
ompaulI wonder should some people be asked to type their 'thoughts' into pastebin and only converse through urls :-/11:21
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gorillaompaul, sounds like an html-to-irc gateway... what a concept!11:22
ikkyswell, im basicly talking bout ubuntut in general. im in the desktop now, but most things/fonts looks as if they are bold. when i change them to "regular" and "8px" they still look fat, i was wondering if ubuntu or linux itself has thin fonts11:22
ompaulikkys, I am interested but keeping track over 5 minutes of a three line conversation is a little hard11:22
ikkyswell, im basicly talking bout ubuntut in general. im in the desktop now, but most things/fonts looks as if they are bold. when i change them to "regular" and "8px" they still look fat, i was wondering if ubuntu or linux itself has thin fonts11:23
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kemikmy fonts look slim11:24
ompaulikkys, I do not experiance this myself, my onscreen fonts are slim11:24
ompaulikkys, what resolution are you using?11:24
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brownie17Kemik: im back11:24
brownie17Kemik: what did you sya just before i left?11:25
ikkys1024-76811:25
youngcoderkemik, ok i pinged the windows box11:25
ikkys30-60horiz 56-75vertrefresh11:25
ikkysim on a 15' tft lcd11:25
brownie17Kemik: you there? i asked do you hae to use recovery mode to acces grub boot loader, i didnt catch what you said11:25
ompaulikkys, no idea with that one, let me poke the web for a moment11:25
cyphase*sigh*11:27
cyphaseis brezzy going to have better support for python in apache?11:27
brownie17Kemik: !!!!!11:28
ikkysthx ompaul11:28
brownie17Kemik: got to go, back in 30 mins11:28
robotgeekikkys: do u have autohinting on?11:28
ikkyseven firefox browser titles are big11:28
ikkysautohinting? how do i check if its on?11:28
robotgeekikkys: do a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig" and select subpixel rendering11:29
kemikyoungcoder:  ah, so it works ? you got replies?11:29
youngcoderyes11:29
ikkyskemik, can u havea look at your desktop snapshot?11:29
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kemikyoungcoder:  are your linux anb windows boxes using the same "workgroup" ?11:30
ikkysrobotgeek, ok let me try that11:30
youngcoderkemik, yes MSHOME11:30
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robotgeekikkys: do u have a screenshot of your box so that we can understand better? :)11:30
bartphi11:30
kemikok11:30
robotgeekbartp: hi11:30
kemikyoungcoder:  tried manually mount the partitions?11:30
ikkysyes11:30
youngcoderkemik, that is where you lose me.. i have no clue about that11:31
robotgeekikkys: link?11:31
kemik(you'll need to apt-get install smbfs) then "sudo mount -t smbfs ipnumber\sharename  /path/to/mountpoint"11:31
ikkyshold on11:31
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ikkysrobotgeek, the reconfigure subpixel, wats that for?11:32
kemikyoungcoder:  tried "places --> network servers" ?11:32
ompaulikkys,  pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl  may be useful11:32
youngcoderkemik, can you send that to me in {PM please11:32
youngcoderkemik, let me look in places11:32
ikkyshold on, letme login from ubuntu11:32
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ikkyshi again folks11:34
ikkysok im on the ubuntu machine11:34
youngcoderkemik, how do i get to places network servers in KDE11:35
ikkyshow do i install apache?11:36
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dennis_sudo apt-get install apache211:36
ikkysdennis_ is there a precompiled apache/mysql/php package?11:37
dennis_For all your ubuntu needs, www.ubuntuguide.org11:37
kemikyoungcoder:  awh, KDE, no idea :/11:37
NoUse!ubuntuguide11:37
ubotumethinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.11:37
dennis_Tells you how to do everything you could possibly think of11:37
dennis_no11:37
dennis_www.ubuntuguide.org is better than the wiki11:37
kemikeh no11:38
robotgeekdennis_: not recommended if you are a newbie to linux11:38
dennis_:/11:38
dennis_I used it when I first started11:38
dennis_It was really easy :/11:38
kemikthe wiki is much better than the guide11:38
dennis_How much easier can it get?11:38
kemikeasy yeah, did you learn anything more than type the commands ?11:38
youngcoderkemik, let me switch to gnome be right back11:38
dennis_kemik, I learn by practice :)11:39
dennis_Therefore I learned alot from the guide11:39
cyphasei just registered this.. is ubuntu on a 6 month release cycle because gnome is as well?11:39
cyphase:)11:39
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NoUsedennis_ you're giving them a fish with the guide, the wiki teaches them to fish11:39
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dennis_lol11:39
dennis_Linux isn't that hard11:40
dennis_:P11:40
dennis_Learning to fish is really easy :011:40
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ompaulthe wiki is suggested to be the way to help new users11:40
dennis_okay11:40
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youngcoderkemik, ok im on gnome11:41
dennis_I was just saying that the guide helped me out a lot but what ever11:41
youngcodercan you resend that command via PM11:41
kemikyoungcoder:  try places>network server11:41
ompauldennis_, fine, but the wiki.ubuntu.com from now on for anyone else :)11:41
dennis_k11:41
youngcoderkemik, i have windows network folder in there and it is empty11:41
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dennis_G?11:42
kemikyoungcoder:  ok. thats a start11:42
kemikbbl11:42
robotgeekompaul: it worked!11:42
ompauldennis_, exactly :)11:42
dennis_oh11:43
dennis_guide ;P11:43
ompaul!kill dennis_11:43
ubotuompaul: What?11:43
ompaulheheh11:43
robotgeek!lart dennis_11:43
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dennis_Wtf does that do?11:43
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robotgeek!botsnack11:44
ubotu:)11:44
robotgeekdennis_: fun with bots!11:44
dennis_Any of you ever read the book "black boy"11:44
dennis_:o11:45
kemikyoungcoder:  you've shared stuff on the windows computer ?11:45
ompauldoes he do ubuntu?11:45
dennis_no11:45
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dennis_He makes me write reports :/11:45
dennis_:P11:45
scanwinderdoes anyone know howto change the homepage for dillo?(only asking here coz there dosent appear to be a dillo irc channel)11:45
youngcoderkemik, yes with other windows boxes but it has been reformatted and has never shared via samba11:45
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youngcoderkemik, but i do have file sharing active and firewall allowing it11:46
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frans-thhi all :P11:47
Shachami have a problem with ALSA. im not able to use my sound card in more than 1 software at a time11:47
Shachami followed this HOWTO but its still not working: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206311:47
frans-thseveral sound card event supported in linux, cannot run well :)11:47
Shacham:(11:47
Shachami have AC9711:48
frans-thi have 2 notebook with realtek AC97, the nec version the sound work well, but in my toshiba a6011:48
frans-thtoshiba is not designed to run linux :)11:48
Shachami use onboard sound card11:48
kemikyoungcoder:  filesharing acitve, but not actually sharing a folder?11:48
Shachamintel AC9711:48
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frans-thShacham: you have the same sound card with me :)11:48
frans-thShacham: mine here, detected, installed, but the sound gone :(11:49
youngcoderkemik, there are shared folders yes11:49
kemikok.. hmm weird11:49
kemiktry the mount command then11:49
Shachamfrans-th, i have sound but only in 1 software at a time :\11:49
frans-thShacham: what is one soft at one times?11:49
ompaulscanwinder, I suggest you look at the bottom of that page where it talks about the .dillorc and the nice text file - I presume you can find the system wide one and (A) modify it or (B) create a .dillorc file based on that infor and move on from there11:50
Shacham?11:50
tommi^Hi. I'm trying to get skype working and the current problem I'm facing is getting it work with esd. If I kill esd skype works fine. Skype's website mentions about using esddsp skype command to run skype with esd but I can't such command and apt-cache search esddsp gives no results either. What to do? Thanks11:50
robotgeekShacham: dual sound seems to be an issue, i think u have to mess around with esd or something. i am not sure11:50
youngcoderkemik, ok installing smbfs now11:51
Shachamfrans-th, you can here dual sound with your realtek AC97?11:51
Shachamcan you*11:51
frans-thoh, you are using 2 soundcard in one motherboard? what is dual sound mean?11:51
youngcoderkemik, in that command is the IP the linux box or windows box ip?11:52
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Shachamhmm11:52
Shachamfor example play a game and use skype at the same time11:52
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ompaultommi^,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1677 shows you a file I have that allows skype to work - but - and a bit but I can only have one thing at a time - skype or music or some other app doing sound11:54
ikkysguys, apt-get install apache2 returns an error, it said, the following package has unmet depedencies. then it asks me to do a apt-get -f install, but still same resutl11:54
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ompaulikkys, try apt-get update first11:55
tommi^ompaul, that's simply not good enough. Sorry, it really has to work.11:55
frans-thShacham: never try it :( sorry cannot help, here, my sound card work well, but in my toshiba, i hate toshiba11:55
youngcoderkemik, in that command is the IP the linux box or windows box ip?11:55
kemikyoungcoder:  the server IP ofcourse ;)11:55
tommi^ompaul, but thanks for your tip. Could anyone else give some insight on this?11:55
ompaultommi^, it works for me, you can hack it, there is enough info out there I just have not got the motivation11:55
youngcoderkemik, please excuse me i am very noob at linux... where do i find the server ip?11:56
kemikyoungcoder:  and /path/to/mountpoint is an empty folder11:56
ikkysactually, before i did the apt-get install apache2, i followed the guide and added repositories and apt-get update.11:56
kemikyoungcoder:  that's the IP of your windowsbox11:56
youngcoderok11:56
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ompaulikkys, are you using hoary?11:56
tommi^ompaul, but the problem is that skype uses directly /dev/dsp and not through esd. I don't see how modifying esd's config would get it working.11:57
ikkysompaul, hmm, ok now it worked, it was asking me to download firefox english language, some sort like that, hehe, but now apt-get install apache2 is downloading..11:58
youngcoderkemik, can i send you a pm so i dont spam the channel/11:58
youngcoder?11:58
ompaultommi^, I use skpe a lot - and that config works for me11:58
kemikyoungcoder:  keep spamming, but if it's > 2 lines use pastebin11:59
ompaultommi^, I have not bothered to get sound working on this hoary box - It is a lot better on breezy and it is not an imperative for me to make more happen,11:59
cyphasefor those people who were asking about tasklist notification, it's been added in Gnome 2.1211:59
ompaultommi^, let me rephrase that, working correctly11:59
youngcoderkemik, oops11:59
youngcoderkemik, btw i dont know what pastebin is12:00
kemik!pastebin12:00
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:00
tommi^ompaul, but you said that it doesn't work side by side. Anyway, I think I have found something from the skype's forums.12:01
ompaulenjoy12:01
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youngcoderkemik http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/167812:08
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Stormx2Hey people12:08
youngcoderhey Stormx212:09
kemikyoungcoder:  ah, use the -o username=yourusername,password=yourpassword12:09
Stormx2Has anyone here used multisync?12:09
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Stormx2Hello? Anyone used multisync?12:12
Belutzwhat cause the kernel panic when i'm trying to boot from live cd?12:13
youngcoderkemik, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/167912:13
Belutz<0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!12:14
robotgeekStormx2: me planning to, in a few days...too lazy!12:15
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robotgeeknite ppl12:15
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kemikyoungcoder:  well it'd be like "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=...,password=... windowsmachine\share /path/to/mountpoint"12:17
youngcoderlol12:17
youngcodersorry12:17
youngcoderok12:17
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youngcoderkemik, i got the same thing.. i have to leave for a week.. ill try to research while i am gone12:19
youngcoderthanks for the help12:19
kemikk12:19
Stormx2hey12:19
Stormx2./bootstrap: line 44: aclocal: command not found12:20
Stormx2Thats kinda annoyin12:20
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Tadej`Certanchello12:23
Tadej`CertancCan someone tell me something12:23
Tadej`CertancIf I install amavis-new from apt do I have to change postfix config file?12:24
kyncaniStormx2: me thinks you should use apt-file search12:24
procrastinatorNow who's the genius that made gaim-data 1.1.4 depend on gaim 1.1.4 without uploading gaim 1.1.4?12:24
Chousukethe maintainer? :P12:24
Chousuket12:24
Chousukestuff like that happens sometimes.12:25
ikkysis there a windows emulator for ubuntu12:25
Tadej`CertancFailed to fetch http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-backports/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net'12:25
Tadej`Certanchmm12:25
Tadej`CertancIs there another hostname for this?12:25
az[a] zelikkys, qemu? bochs? vmware?12:25
az[a] zelikkys, or you mean, wine?12:25
ikkyswine12:25
ikkysapt-get install wine?12:26
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az[a] zelapt-cache search wine12:26
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Tadej`Certancwell?12:27
Tadej`Certancanyone?12:27
ikkysok12:28
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topyliTadej`Certanc: sure there are other mirrors, as listed on the backports web page12:32
Stormx2contact.c: In function `strbuf_append_date':12:33
Stormx2contact.c:129: error: `TIME_FIELDS' undeclared (first use in this function)12:33
Stormx2while using make.12:33
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Tadej`Certanchmm12:34
Tadej`CertancThe following packages have unmet dependencies:12:34
Tadej`Certanc  clamav-daemon: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.85.1-2~5.04ubp1) but 0.83-2ubuntu1 is to be installed12:34
Tadej`Certancenyc: Broken packages12:34
Tadej`Certancso what do I have to do?12:34
Tadej`CertancIt says that clamav-base is installed12:35
Seveasfirst of all you DONT PASTE IN HERE12:35
Seveasand second: disable backports12:35
Tadej`CertancSeveas: how?12:35
Seveasthe same way as you enabled it...12:35
Tadej`CertancSeveas: I didnt as far as I know :)12:36
Tadej`Certancdo I coment it in sources.list?12:36
Seveasnonsense, you enabled or it would not ask for it.12:36
Seveasyes, you remove from sources.list12:36
Tadej`Certanchmm12:36
Tadej`Certancok12:36
Tadej`Certancwhat about clamav?12:36
Seveaswhat about it?12:37
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Tadej`Certancclamav-daemon: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.85.1-2~5.04ubp1) but 0.83-2ubuntu1 is to be installed12:37
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Tadej`Certancbut I have installed clamav-base12:37
guzuhello all12:37
Seveasand second: disable backports <-----------------12:37
Seveasthen you can install it12:37
Tadej`Certancok12:37
Tadej`Certancthanks12:38
topyliTadej`Certanc: as you can see, it's the wrong version. disable backports and fix broken packages first. then install clamav if it is removed12:38
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skullzBOFHhi!12:39
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ekimushi i think the gcc b0rked somehow on my system, or more precise some includes behave very strange. i did some coding yesterday and it compiled just fine: today the same code won't have a look at the compiler output please: http://pastebin.com/34830112:40
guzuhi12:40
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guzuanyone knows how to setup an isa sound card non pnp on ubuntu 5.04?12:41
qt2hm, is there an easy way to log out of an x session from the terminal...?12:41
ekimusqt2: you could always kill your xsession (if it belongs to that user)12:42
ikkyshow do i use wine? i have apt-get install, and i think its done now, how do i execute it?12:42
ekimusikkys: wine name_of_win_program12:42
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qt2ekimus, true... and how would i do that? XD12:43
guzuikkys, wine file.exe, or even better man wine :)12:43
ikkysso that means, i have to install that win program fist?12:43
ikkysman wine, ok let me check that12:43
qt2ekimus, killall -9 what?12:43
ekimusqt2: ps -u $USER will show you the processes you run. then "pkill processname"12:43
ikkysno manual for wine12:43
topyliikkys: well, you run the windows app's installer through wine of course12:44
topyliikkys: you don12:44
Belutzekimus: why i always failed in installing ie 6 in wine?12:44
Stormx2ekimus: GNOME has a frontend for that, you know.12:44
ekimusqt2: can't help you any further i'm not using gnome so i don't know what the process name is12:44
topyli't actually "run" wine12:44
ekimusStormx2: no i don't know, cause i don't use gnome :)12:44
Stormx2kde?12:44
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qt2ekimus, 'gnome-session' i'm guessing?12:44
ekimusStormx2: ion312:44
guzuBelutz, maybe the required things were not there12:44
Stormx2ekimus: Any good?12:44
ekimusqt2: sounds good to me12:45
ekimusStormx2: perfect for me12:45
ikkysso i download the file to the linux desktop and run  it thru wine, like that?12:45
Belutzguzu: such as?12:45
guzuBelutz, try to install ie6 and look at the output12:45
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guzuBelutz, sstart from terminal12:45
ekimusikkys: probably, i just read some stuff about it i don't use wine normally i use vmware for running windows12:45
topyliikkys: yes, something like "wine setup.exe". you really should read some documentation12:46
guzuanybody knows if there's an rc.local somewhere?12:46
guzuor should i touch it?12:46
ekimusguzu: there isn't just create one12:46
ikkysok i just apt-get install wine-doc, now how i read it?12:46
ikkysvmware? anylinks12:47
guzuekimus, wich are the relevant runlevels in ubuntu? 3 and 4?12:47
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guzuvmware.com12:47
topyliguzu: just 2 really12:47
ekimusguzu: just use update-rc.d12:47
Belutzguzu: here's the output http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168112:48
guzutopyli, ekimus thnx12:48
ikkyshow to execute read wine-doc?12:48
topyliikkys: find the files, read them that's all12:49
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ikkysya of course, its not like i never used windows...but, i type at root prompt: wine-doc, it said, command not found12:50
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Frafrahi all12:51
topyliikkys: they're probably in /usr/share /doc, it's not a command12:51
guzuBelutz, too much noise, paste only ie6 relevant please12:51
FrafraI'm using hoary for am64. What i must do for play dvd video?12:51
Belutzthat's the output of "wine ie6setup.exe"12:51
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Uthinii'm having some minor issues12:52
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topyliBelutz: probably "thank you for choosing IE6. IE just got better than ever" :-)12:52
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linuxboyis there any p2p software in linux?12:53
linuxboy(in ubuntu)12:53
az[a] zelazureus12:53
Uthini!bluetooth12:53
ubotuUthini: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:53
ikkysnope not there12:53
Belutztopyli: actually i don't want to install IE 6, but some apps require IE to be installed12:53
az[a] zellinuxboy, i pretty much just use bittorrent, and for that I use azureus (java required)12:54
az[a] zellinuxboy, but search for bittorrent in synaptic, and you'll find some gnome-torrent downloader thingy12:54
az[a] zeli guess there's also limewire (java required), but I've never used it12:54
az[a] zelalmost every other p2p app on linux bites it big time .. :/12:55
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Frafra!dvd12:56
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras12:56
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Frafra!dvd amd6412:56
ubotuFrafra: Are you on ritalin?12:56
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guzuFrafra, tried xine?12:56
Frafrayes12:56
az[a] zelI like totem for DVD playback these days12:56
az[a] zelsimple, and it works12:56
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lithiumhi all12:57
az[a] zelof course, it's just a fancy wrapper for xine12:57
brownie17Kemik: are you there?12:57
guzuhi lithium12:57
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brownie17can anyone help me?12:58
brownie17i want to know how to edit the GRUB bootloader12:58
guzubrownie17, wich editor?12:58
brownie17GUZU: what do you mean?12:58
lithiumi've updated my ubuntu test installation from hoary to breezy and now server gnome applets (like the clock, desktop switcher, etc) doesn't start anymore. since this is a test installation it doesn't relly matter, but is there a way to fix this, or is this a known problem and i just have to wait until the packages are updated?12:58
guzubrownie17, anyway, try this: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst as root, ofc12:59
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brownie17when you say root, do i have to log in as root, or just use root terminal?12:59
thenukebrownie17: terminal is ok12:59
guzuthenuke, is there a root terminal somewhere? :)01:00
thenukebrownie17: you can also use normal user terminal and type  sudo apt-get update  for example if you need to run some command as a root01:00
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thenukeguzu: should be on the desktop :)01:00
guzuthenuke, sudo gedit will work?01:00
thenukeguzu: I think so yes01:00
bimberiguzu: yes01:00
guzuthenuke, i have only windowmaker since my machine it's a tiny one :)01:00
topyliguzu: there is one in the apps menu01:01
bimberiApps -> System Tools -> Root Terminal01:01
thenukeguzu: ok :)01:01
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thenukeguzu: well, you can then fireup normal console, and use that sudo.. if you want to have an root terminal, you can type sudo su  and type in your password01:01
thenukeguzu: then  commanding exit returns you back to your normal user terminal01:02
Frafrait says that there aren't some plugins01:03
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guzuthenuke, no01:03
elverpppoeconf somehow runs "pon" on boot to start the pppoe session. I don't want that happening anymore. how can I remove it?01:04
guzuthenuke, sudo su is not working here, although su - works just fine01:04
thenukeguzu: very weird :)01:04
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guzuFrafra, it is possible that some plugins are not compiled for 64 bits but check it01:04
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guzuthenuke, maybe it's because first thing i did was start in single and reset the root pass to a known one :)01:05
thenukeguzu: that should not affect it afaik01:05
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dv_hi01:06
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thenukedv_: hi01:06
guzuthenuke, here sudo gedit doesn't work either01:06
dv_I have two problems with the kubuntu desktop01:06
guzudv_, hi01:06
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dv_first: I am using it on a laptop, and theres the "LCD Off" "LCD On" message popping up frequently01:06
brownie17Kemik: i did as you told me to do01:06
guzu!runlevel01:06
ubotuguzu: No idea01:06
guzu!runlevels01:06
ubotuguzu: I don't know01:06
elverUm. I can start services with /etc/init.d scripts. But how do I add those scripts to the boot sequence? In Gentoo I did something like "rc-update add scriptname bootlevel" What's the equivalent in Ubuntu?01:07
guzuok ubotu01:07
thoreauputicdv_: you know there's a #kubuntu, right ?01:07
dv_second, I heard about a way to synchronize kde and gnome themes01:07
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dv_oh :) sorry01:07
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thoreauputicdv_: no no - it's OK - just letting you know :)01:07
CentraXhello there01:07
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reikiwoot!  I think I have CD printing working on my Epson R200. But the driver from TurboPrint costs $37US. Will be worth it as I think this is among the lasy items I needed so I don't have to boot back toWinXP01:07
thoreauputicdv_: you aren't off topic :)01:08
CentraXwhere is the swedish irc channel for ubuntu linux?01:08
dv_so is it possible to synchronize the kde and gtk themes somehow?01:08
CentraX=/01:08
Gnonthgol#ubuntu-se01:08
CentraXthx01:08
thoreauputic #ubuntu.se ?01:08
gantchevhi01:08
priestCentraX:: #ubuntu.se01:08
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thoreauputicdv_: you might look for gtk-qt engine - I forget the exact name01:09
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gantchevis there someone who use Xinerama on ATI Radeon dual head ?01:09
brownie17can anyone at all help me, my GRUB boot sequence stopped working when i resized my winxp partition, and deleted my old win 98se partition. now GRUB won't let me get ot my windows os selector anymore01:09
GnonthgolCentraX: but feel free to join the norwegian chanel at #ubuntu-no01:09
dv_k01:09
sorush20hi... what the hell is going on with the freenode...01:09
thoreauputicdv_: apt-cache search gtk qt returns "gtk2-engines-gtk-qt - Makes your GTK 2 apps look like Qt ones"01:10
liablesorush20: /umode +E01:10
CrackersKeenananyone had trouble exporting files using KINO?01:11
sorush20liable: what does that code do..01:11
brownie17can anyone at all help me, my GRUB boot sequence stopped working when i resized my winxp partition, and deleted my old win 98se partition. now GRUB won't let me get ot my windows os selector anymore01:11
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sorush20did you use partition magic brownie1701:12
brownie17no01:12
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CentraXIs ubuntu a hard dist?01:12
Gnonthgolbrownie17: Try reinstalling Grub01:12
CentraX:/01:12
brownie17i used acronis partition editor01:12
CentraXi suck at linux01:12
bimberisorush20: prevents private messages from people who have not identified themselves to NickServ01:12
brownie17how do i reinstal GRUB without reinstalling linux01:12
ekimusanybody knows some fix to that compile error: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/3.3.5/include/stddef.h:213: error: Syntaxfehler before "typedef" (even happens with a simple hello world program)01:13
kemikbrownie17:  it didnt work ?01:13
brownie17gnonthgol: how do i reinstall grub without having to reinstall linux01:13
brownie17no it didnt kemik01:13
Gnonthgolbrownie17: grub just installs a intalation and configuring probram in linux01:13
brownie17it came up with another error01:13
kemikwhat error ?01:13
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brownie17can't remember exactly, but something equally annoying, i will restart and write down everything it says01:14
brownie17be right back everyone01:14
frans-thj/join #ubuntu-devel01:14
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sorush20guys what is happening with the freenode serv..01:15
sorush20is it crashing01:15
CentraXI get a lot of spam here01:15
CentraXy01:15
CentraXhelp01:15
az[a] zelCentraX, because people suck01:15
CentraX:/01:15
BergcubeCentraX~ Read the topic.01:15
CentraXoh i see01:15
az[a] zelCentraX, do /mode Centrax +E01:15
thenukeI cant ping any localhosts.. what could be the matter?01:15
CentraX13:15:50  Unknown command umode01:15
CentraXlol01:15
CentraX??01:15
sorush20who the hell is spamming..01:16
frans-thhi all01:16
frans-thany tips for moving apt cache from one computer to another computer, so i dont have to get it from the internet again01:16
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nalioth_wrknsorush20: there is a plague of spambots on the loose, set yourself +CE and it will cut out most of it01:17
nalioth_wrknfrans-th: just move it01:17
Bergcubefrans-th~ That was described in detail on the ubuntu-users mailinglist recently.  I must admit I'm to lazy to find the URL.01:17
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sorush20nalioth_wrkn: who the hell is responsible and is there a way to  find them01:18
naliothsorush20: it is freenode-wide (we are not priveldged in here)01:18
guzuyes01:19
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brownie17Kemik: i am back. i got it01:19
naliothsorush20: the global ops in #freenode and local ops on all affected channels are doing their best to ban the varmints01:19
bimberifrans-th: transfer /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb to the same location on the other computer (i burn a CD)01:19
brownie17Kemik: i am putting it in the paste bin now01:19
naliothsorush20: but when you have a zombie fleet (thank you Bill), there are lots and lots of IPs to play with01:19
naliothfrans-th: make very sure you maintain the same permissions on the files when you move them01:20
kemikthenuke:  what do you mean "cant ping any localhosts" ?01:20
kemikthenuke:  try "ifconfig"01:20
thenukekemik: I cant ping 192.168.0.1.. for example.. or 127.0.0.101:20
kemikand see if you have your nics configured etc01:20
thenukekemik: ifconfigs are ok01:20
kemikthenuke:  "ifconfig" and paste the output on pastebin01:20
kemikthenuke:  firewalls?01:20
kemiklocalhost should be ping-able01:21
thenukehmmmm.. Firewall is possible.. if I have activated one when I have been drinking for example.. cant remember :D01:21
GnonthgolDoes anyone know why sources.list does not contain the files I got asked if I wanted to copy from the cd?01:21
kemikthenuke:  well... iptables --list01:21
brownie17Kemik: here is my paste bin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168201:21
kemikGnonthgol:  ? do you want to copy them form cd ?01:22
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naliothGnonthgol: sorry, i didnt understand your question01:22
sorush20nalioth_wrkn: where you referring to Bill Gates01:22
thenukekemik: iptables is empty.01:22
kemikGnonthgol:  if you dont want to use the CD as a 'repository' remove the first line in your source.list (put a # infron of it )01:22
thenukekemik: http://pastebin.com/34832301:22
kemikthenuke:  paste your ifconfig01:22
kemikaihgth01:22
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brownie17Kemik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168201:23
naliothsorush20: yes, may he rot somewhere01:23
brownie17Seveas: cna you help me?01:23
GnonthgolIn the installation I got asked if I wanted to copy all packages from the cd. I did but in sources.list the cd is there but not the files I copyed01:23
sorush20nalioth he has contributed to the computre world alot..01:23
naliothsorush20: yes he has, both good and bad. zombie windows hordes are an example of the bad01:24
kemikbrownie17:  i think you're only option is to borrow a windowscd and use the fixmbr tool01:24
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Adrosswhoa, is this 'naughty time01:24
Adross' on freenode or what?01:24
kemikthenuke:  ipv6 addy for your loopback doesnt sound good01:24
brownie17kemik: are you absalutly sure? i got told that would ruin my linux installation01:24
Whistlerhow do i use bin files?01:24
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brownie17kemik: cna i just reinstall GRUB?01:24
sorush20nalioth zombie window hords.. hm.. I have to read on that.. but I'm sure he didn't program it or invent it..01:25
GnonthgolWhistler: run them as a normal script01:25
kemikbrownie17:  yes it will more or less ruin your grub-bootloader, but you can recover that afterwards01:25
kemik!grub01:25
Adrossi have an old mac, uber old, either version 8 or below, tops. WIll the standard ppc version of ubuntu work?01:25
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:25
WhistlerGnonthgol sh filename ?01:25
Adross!grub01:25
Adrossaww01:25
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thenukekemik: I have ipv4-6 tunneling01:25
sorush20is there a gui terminal..01:25
Adross!dashboard01:25
ubotuAdross: I give up, what is it?01:25
Adross!beagle01:25
DJ_Miragewhat is mode +CE ?01:25
ubotuit has been said that beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto01:25
GnonthgolWhistler: no, just like ./file.bin01:25
kemikthenuke:  do "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1"01:26
bimberiAdross: no, requires G3 or better iirc01:26
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WhistlerGnonthgol k thx01:26
Whistler:)01:26
Tadej`Certanchow do I send email with command mail in console01:26
Adrossbimberi: then is there a version of ubuntu linux i can put on it?01:26
Tadej`CertancI need to send a test mail01:26
frans-thjust a little question, why wiki in ubuntu.com, but there is another wiki also in ubuntulinux.org, 2 type of wiki in one place01:26
thenukekemik: righto, works now ok. Learned a lesson here :) thanks01:26
bimberiAdross: i don't think so - but am not certain01:26
GnonthgolTadej`Certanc: send to root@localhost01:26
Adrosshmm, damn01:27
JhairTerminX, echo "test" | mail -s your_email "test"01:27
Adrosswhen did they start putting the g3's in? Which version01:27
frans-thubotu: you said ubuntuguide.org is not good, but how can canonical set 2 wiki for ubuntu.01:27
ubotufrans-th: what are you talking about?01:27
frans-thubotu: you promoted to me  wiki.ubuntu.com, remember?01:28
ubotufrans-th: Do they come in packets of five?01:28
TerminXwatch it with that nick autocompletion eh01:28
frans-thubotu: what is packets of five?01:28
ubotufrans-th: what are you talking about?01:28
sorush20is there a gui terminal.. for example instead of doing a cd.../directory would it be possible to just select a dropdown menu form the terminal..01:28
Gnonthgol!ubotu01:28
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:28
kemikthenuke:  that's most likely just a temporary fix tho.. paste your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin01:28
lokhi all, I'm connected to my modem by wifi, but I can't do an apt-get update without problems (md5 mismatch) so is it possible that it's my wifi card (I'm using it with ndiswrapper) that lost too much packets ?01:28
kemikfrans-th:  www.ubuntuguide.org isnt an official resource01:29
thenukekemik: auto lo; iface lo inet loopback01:29
kemik!ubuntuguide01:29
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.01:29
sorush20how do I report a but with mplayer mozilla plugin..01:29
thenukekemik: I guess thats the relevant part01:29
kemikthenuke:  ok.. looks right..01:29
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sorush20a bug01:29
brownie17Kemik: what was the command for editing the GRUB again?01:29
Adrossbut ubotu, the cool kids say if i use ubuntu guide, i can sit with them at lunch01:30
Adrosswhatever should i do?01:30
tiglionabbitscrew the cool kids.  You use linux, so you're already a nerd01:30
kemikbrownie17:  really, you need to either reinstall grub or recover your mbr with the windows recovery tool01:30
Gnonthgol!grub01:30
ubotuwell, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:30
sorush20was ist das.. yea.. is it zeher goot.01:30
brownie17where can i find out how to reinstall grub?01:30
sorush20hmm.. Ich libe das Bill Gates.. .. Ich wona.. hmmm01:31
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brownie17ich spreche klein deutchse01:31
Adrosstiglionabbit: thats not what your mother said last night01:31
kemikkeep it in english01:31
Adrosssorry, reflex01:31
sorush20ich spreche.. groBe deutchse01:31
bimberiAdross: Still there?  -  Looks like i was wrong (sorry)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs01:31
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Adrossthankyou bimberi01:32
WhistlerGnonthgol i type sudo ./j2sdk-1_4_2_09-linux-i586.bin and i get no such command01:32
naliothDJ_Mirage: i'm not sure what +C does, but +E makes it so unregistered users can't PM you01:32
bimberiAdross: yvw :)01:32
brownie17Kemik: willthe guide to recovering GRUb after a windows installation help me? if so, which part of the guide?01:32
naliothAdross: old world macs are easy to install01:32
Adrosswell, i'm out01:32
Adrossbye01:32
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Adrossand thankyou01:32
Snarksamit01:32
Snarks/samit/salut/01:32
GnonthgolWhistler: I got the same problem but jist install from synaptic01:32
kemikbrownie17:  im not sure about that.. im pretty sure tho that fixmbr on te windows cd will help you01:32
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naliothbrownie17: what happened to your mbr?01:33
brownie17Kemik: remember, i dont have a windows cd, and it will take me approx 3 days to get one, and i need this fixed tonight01:33
kemikbrownie17:  and the mess you're in, well. you either read the grub-documentation or recover with a xp-cd01:33
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naliothbrownie17: you want windows? i take it?01:33
brownie17Kemik: thankyou for all yourr help01:33
kemikbrownie17:  i dont see that happening unless someone here knows any other workarounds01:33
brownie17nalioth: no, i want them to dual boot, and they wont01:34
kemiknalioth perhaps ;)01:34
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naliothbrownie17: so what are you after atm?01:34
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dylanrogersis there any reason that i would use SUSE Linux 10 or the latest version over Ubuntu?01:34
brownie17nalioth: my GRUB wont load XP anymore01:34
frans-thkemik: which one the official, wiki.ubuntu.com or ubuntulinux.org/wiki ?01:34
Gnonthgolbrownie17: tryed sudo update-grub ?01:34
naliothbrownie17: what errors do you get (given that it booted XP b4 now)01:34
brownie17gnonthgol: what will that do01:35
naliothfrans-th: they are the same thing01:35
brownie17nalioth, ill tell you01:35
Snarkhmmmm... is there a "known breakages and their solutions" somewhere?01:35
kemiknalioth:  he's resized / destroyed one of his partiotions so GRUB points to the wrong place01:35
Gnonthgolbrownie17: puting grub in your boot section01:35
brownie17nalioth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168201:35
naliothkemik: ah-ha01:35
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brownie17gnonthol: its in my boot section, it works fine, but it wont run xp01:35
sorush20how far is AI from making it into the consumer markets.. and will Linux open source have anything in it..01:35
dylanrogersany better linux distro than ubuntu?01:35
frans-thnalioth: i got it, ubuntulinux.org/wiki will be redirected to wiki.ubuntu.com :)01:36
kemikfrans-th:  i think i misread and you said "ubuntuguide" :)01:36
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naliothdylanrogers: that is a question that calls for opinion. we are in #ubuntu, what kind of answer do you think you'll get?01:36
brownie17sorush20: i have an AI. i keep it on my old windows 95 computer, so it can't do anything without crashing.... i dont want another terminator 301:36
kemikfrans-th:  there will be an official FAQ released with Breezy01:36
frans-thkemik: sorry :) i just studing the model of how ubuntu work and support the community01:36
oris_wolfbaneis ther a way to see the date i first installed ubuntu?01:36
naliothbrownie17: which partition did you resize?01:36
frans-thkemik: i order ubuntu.or.id, hopfeully can become ubuntu-id.org :)01:36
brownie17nalioth: my XP partition01:36
dylanrogersnalioth, well i understand your point, but i was maybe looking for #suse.  if you can tell me where that is i would be greatly appreciated01:37
kemik=)01:37
naliothbrownie17: have you edited your grub.conf?01:37
brownie17nalioth: and i deleted my old win98se partition01:37
brownie17nalioth: yes, but only becasue it wasnt working. only a small change, that  ican change back01:37
kemiknalioth:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/168201:37
naliothdylanrogers: if it's not where you printed (#suse) then i don't know01:37
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dylanrogersnalioth, ok01:37
kemiknalioth:  thats the error msg he gets now01:37
Bergcubesorush20~ We have lots of functioning AI systems already.  They're "just" very specialized.  We have no general AI more or less like HAL9000 yet.01:37
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kemiknalioth:  i had him change root (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) since his windows partition seem to be /dev/hda201:38
sorush20brownie17: Bergcube could you send a few links I could read. .thanks.01:38
kemikBergcube:  and maybe we'll never have...01:38
kemikBergcube:  a machine that would pass the Turing Test or Total Turing Test01:38
naliothbrownie17: kemik: i'm  not sure on grub (i havent run a intel box in years) but making grub reexamine the partitions or editing it to point to your new XP partition would do the trick01:38
brownie17sorush20: i was joking01:38
Bergcubekemik~ Very possible.01:39
frans-thall: know what is the category of open-ldap?01:39
sorush20I find that my computer crashed when I try to run the p2p programs at night..01:39
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kemiknalioth:  yes it could.. i've pointed him to the recoveringGrub01:39
brownie17nalioth: i tried iedting the GRUB01:40
brownie17Kemik: it will probably take me hours to find out how to use that guide01:40
brownie17but i saved it, so i should be fein01:40
DjKriticalCan someone tell me, is NFS installed into the Ubuntu kernel by default?01:40
kemiknalioth:  but im not 100% that recovering grub will work, since he get that nasty NTLDR missing *crap*01:40
kemikbrownie17:  you'll have to deal with it.. :/01:40
brownie17Kemik: what is NTLDR01:40
brownie17KEmik: what you mean, deal with it?01:41
kemikbrownie17:  read the recovering grub and try it out ..01:41
brownie17ok01:41
brownie17Kemik: i have to find which part of the guide applies to me, any suggestions?01:41
naliothkemik: ntldr can be found on the web (full of shite, i'm sure)01:41
kemikDjKritical:  no, nafaik01:41
Bergcubesorush20~ Sorry, I have no links ready available.  But I have a great book in Norwegian about the topic.  But Deep blue (and all the other chess playing SW for sale) is specialized AI.  There are AI systems doing geological surveys, as well as assisting in ER diagnostising of patients.  There are AI systems that help monitor _big_ LAN systems, and others that daytrade on the stock exchanges.  Neural networks is said to be a form of AI a01:41
Bergcubes well.01:41
naliothbrownie17: if you get a ntldr from the internet, run a linux AV on it b4 you place it01:41
kemikDjKritical:  but it's just a matter of apt-getting 2-3 things01:42
brownie17nalioth: i have no av, i just got linux, dont even know how to install shit right01:42
naliothbrownie17: synaptic is your friend01:42
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naliothbrownie17: and linux needs no AV, just has one for us to use b4 we send pR0n to our windows using friends01:42
Bergcubenalioth~ Ever played the RPG Paranoia?  "The computer is your friend!"01:43
brownie17nalioth: synaptic is difficult. i tried runnig the auto install thing that came with the newest version of firefox, that wouldnt even work01:43
naliothBergcube: everyone is my friend01:43
SnarkI'm stuck with the "could not open default font 'fixed'" problem :-/01:43
naliothbrownie17: firefox autoinstall is not synaptic01:43
kemik!tell kemik about grub01:43
brownie17nalioth: but i couldnt even do that, that shows you how dumb i am01:43
BergcubeI'm not!  :-P  :-D  :-D    (Sorry, too good a one-liner to waste!)01:43
frans-th!tell frans01:44
naliothbrownie17: dumb or ignorant (ignorance can be overcome, dumb is forever)01:44
DjKriticalkemik, I've got nfs-common and portmap... and I'm getting an error when trying to mount an NFS drive.... mount: RPC: Program not registered01:44
brownie17Kemik: do i have a seperate boot partition?01:44
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brownie17nalioth: i think maybe ignorance, because usually i can work stuff like this out, if i have some basic knowledge01:45
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naliothbrownie17: a good place to start is wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation01:46
kemikDjKritical: hmm, someone had the exact same problem earlier this week... helped him but dont remember :  theres info on google about that ho01:46
kemikthough01:46
naliothbrownie17: after that, www.tldp.org is a vast repository of knowledge of all things linux01:46
cyphase*whistle*01:46
cyphaseKatrina is blowing at 160 mph01:46
ThePyromaniacanyone know how to boot linux without grub?01:46
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ThePyromaniacim trying to dual boot and all i get when i turn on the pc is the single word GRUB, with no option to boot windows01:46
naliothThePyromaniac: chrott01:46
naliothThePyromaniac: chroot, even01:47
DjKriticalkemik, I havnt' setup hosts.allow on the server =)01:47
ThePyromaniacnalioth: gonna need more of a hint that that ^^01:47
Gnonthgolbrownie17: This is not realy an Ubuntu problemm, not even an Linux problem, but an Windows problem, have you tryed to contact Microsoft?01:47
DjKriticalkemik, just found something about it on google01:47
naliothThePyromaniac: this link touches on chroot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:48
naliothThePyromaniac: i suggest you read it (the parts on chroot) then ask uncle google for more info on chroot01:48
naliothThePyromaniac: and d/l a liveCd while you wait01:48
brownie17gnonthgol: no, microsoft wont be any help will they?01:49
ThePyromaniacthanks01:49
Fanskapethmm can you do mail-filters using fetchmail?01:49
Fanskapeteg. when a mail has "openbeos" included in the subject fetchmail will automaticly place it in "home/$user/MailDir/OpenBeOS" ?01:49
brownie17whats the code for editing GRUB again? i need to do it to follw that guide01:49
brownie17nalioth:what is the code for editing grub again?01:49
sapohi fellows.. anyone here knows something better than totem to play matroska and ogm? the totem subtitles are just UGLY01:49
naliothbrownie17: sure they will for $130US per question01:49
brownie17nalioth: hahah, bloody corrupt megalomaniacs01:50
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naliothbrownie17: code for editing grub?01:50
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brownie17nalioth: yeh01:50
twibblerhi all .....01:50
brownie17nalioth: btw, what current games are there that have a linux version?01:51
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kemikbrownie17:  are you refering to "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"?01:51
brownie17yes01:51
brownie17thankyou01:51
naliothbrownie17: sorry, bubba, i don't play games on linux01:51
Bergcubebrownie17~ Make a copy of menu.1st first.01:51
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topyliFanskapet: procmail is for filtering, fetchmail only fetches it really01:52
brownie17bergcube: done01:52
Fanskapetahh okey01:52
Fanskapetwell im running procmail via fetchmail.01:52
Fanskapetso a .procmailrc should just do the trick?01:53
Bergcubebrownie17~ Always good to be able to unfuck things later if you accidently fuck it up...01:53
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topyliFanskapet: yes, .procmailrc has your filter rules. you should also have a .forward file so that procmail will actually know it has some work to do01:53
Fanskapettopyli if one would like to have spamassasin.. how should you config it then?01:54
Fanskapetis spam-assasin some kind of filter for procmail or?01:54
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brownie17KEMIK: BERGCUBE: NALIOTH: brb, gotta go toilet! :)01:55
naliothFanskapet: you can also call clamav to filter your mail01:55
topyliFanskapet: yes, one of your procmail filters could pass your mail through SA01:55
BergcubeI just remembered something I've been wondering a bit about...  Is there any free/libre/open software that does the same things that Lotus Notes Domino server does?01:56
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Paulius`hi01:56
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Fanskapettopyli.. "mailassasin" istheshit.net or should i use another filter? :)01:56
Paulius`I was wondering why is ubuntu using esd while alsa has such a great sf mixing support by default in it;s current version01:57
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Paulius`I (and some ppl I know) run in to a problems with sound on ubuntu because of esd01:57
nerdy2what sort of problems?01:57
ilba7r!info cpu freq scaling01:57
twibblerPaulius: I have that problem at the moment but cant seem to get alsa working properly ...01:58
ilba7r!cpu freq scaling01:58
ubotuilba7r: Syntax error in line 101:58
Belutztopyli: can i reinstall ubuntu without losing my data?01:58
brownie17KEMIK:BERGCUBE NALIOTH: back01:58
topyliFanskapet: it's one i would recommend. i have another filter for the most common windows viruses, and you could define others based on subject, mailing list or whatever01:58
ilba7ranyone can help with cpu freq scaling?01:58
Paulius`well I didnt have sound of all, and my friend said his sone was crappy, stratches and etc01:58
nerdy2Paulius`: and there are multiple reasons to use esd over dmix, one of them is that dmix doesn't work flawlessly everywhere, another being transparent network support01:58
topyliBelutz: if your data is not on the system partition01:58
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Paulius`esd doesnt work propely everwhere too01:59
nerdy2if you aren't getting sound, there may well be more at work than the existence of a sound daemon01:59
Goekhello! how do i make a vcd file from a avi file?01:59
Belutztopyli: so i just have to backup the /home/$USER directory?01:59
Paulius`and transparent network support aint something that many users need01:59
twibblernerdy2: there is a problem with esd and skype ...01:59
naliothBelutz: back up your home directory, b4 you reinstall01:59
Paulius`nerdy2, well I disabled esd and it works nicely atm02:00
topyliBelutz: if /home is not on its own partition, you have to save it by other means, yes :)02:00
Fanskapettopyli so what's the name of that one then?02:00
Belutznalioth: any other files i should back up? such as xorg.conf and sources.list ?02:00
Paulius`and like twibbler said there are issues with programs not supporting esd02:00
brownie17brb everyoen02:00
naliothBelutz: are you running a standard hoary install?02:00
topyliFanskapet: nkvir-rc, just a script i found floating around the net02:00
Belutztopyli: so is it better to install with 3 partition? / , /home and /swap?02:01
Belutznalioth: yup standard install, but i have customize my system02:01
nerdy2Paulius`: yes, the alternative would be to not have any mixing at all possible, and not getting sound because one app is using the sound card, how good does that sound?02:01
topyliBelutz: well that's what i do anyway02:01
GoekGoek hello! how do i make a vcd file from a avi file?02:01
Goekplease help me, someone02:01
nerdy2and of course lack of transparent network support02:01
nerdy2which is useful02:01
naliothBelutz: then if you like, back up the files you mentioned02:01
Belutztopyli: will try that :)02:01
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naliothBelutz: and if you're really on a backup kick, you can save /var/apt/cache, too02:02
Paulius`nerdy2, better no mixing at all than no sound at all02:02
Belutznalioth: any other files you suggesting to be save?02:02
Belutzok02:02
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Paulius`I've lived without no mixining for 3 years and didnt have problem this it02:02
topyliBelutz: then you can switch systems at will and you can keep your data and settings. my /home is years old02:02
topyliBelutz: you might have something in /etc too. perhaps /var02:02
naliothBelutz: when you reinstall, make yourself a dedicated /home partition02:02
unvsi just installed amarok and when i try to play an mp3 it just starts/stops as if the mp3 was 0 seconds long or something. any ideas what this is?02:03
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Belutztopyli: yes, i was trying to do that, but the install HOWTO doesn't mentioned it lol02:03
Belutznalioth: i will :)02:03
ilba7ranyone can help with cpu freq scaling?02:03
naliothBelutz: you'll have to get some size info from others here on how big your /  should be,02:03
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Paulius`btw as I said have you tried new alsa versions, it;s mixing support works fine even with my ac97, which it didnt work before so I think it would be a good alternative02:03
dylanrogersok guys once again, why is ubuntu better than suse?02:03
Fanskapettopyli does it stop ordinary spam aswell?02:04
naliothdylanrogers: you are in one reason (#ubuntu)02:04
unvscause it's pretty :)02:04
Fanskapetor should one use both spamassasin and nkvir-rc?02:04
Belutznalioth, topyli: i only install ubuntu on 11GB partition, any suggestion of /home partition size?02:04
naliothBelutz: why only 11gb partitions?02:04
twibblerPaulius: how do I get alsa working properly ..... have sound but no input ..02:04
Paulius`dylanrogers, because it's not overloaded with much programs02:04
Belutznalioth: because I still have window$02:04
Malinhow do i uninstall programs i installed with make/make install from .tar.gz?02:04
topyliFanskapet: i think it does have basic rules for nigerian fraud messages, but i use spamassassin too02:04
Malinmake uninstall and make deinstall won't work02:04
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Belutznalioth: and i also have fat32 partition for data sharing between ubuntu and linux02:05
Belutz*ubuntu and windows02:05
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brownie17im back02:05
thoreauputicMalin: sometimes there's an "uninstall" script in the build directory ( make uninstall)02:05
Paulius`twibbler, what do you mean input? what problems do you get?02:05
unvsso anyone had problems with amarok not playing mp3s?02:05
Gnonthgolbrownie17: In what OS?02:05
thoreauputicMalin: ah sorry - you already tried that?02:06
Malinyeah, i did02:06
brownie17gnonthgol: still in ubuntu02:06
naliothBelutz: i'm gonna suggest a 4gb / though i'm sure others in here have other opinions (let's hear em)02:06
Fanskapettopyli just one dumb question :) how you you call the script from within procmailrc?02:06
thoreauputicMalin: well, you might have to manually delete the stuff ( usually in /usr/local )02:06
topyliBelutz: let's put it this way: my system uses 3.7G on / , and this is a huge installation02:06
twibblerPaulius: I am trying to get sype working but it wont connect . So I followed all the ins to install alsa .. Setup sound output no problem but when I set input to alsa viw gstreamer-properties I get failed error ...02:06
thoreauputicMalin: I recommend you install checkinstall - it makes a .deb for you when you compile stuff02:07
topyliFanskapet: INCLUDERC=/home/juha/.nkvir-rc :)02:07
Malinthanks thoreauputic02:07
Fanskapetso it's that simple? :)02:07
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topyliFanskapet: yes, as long as .nvir-rc is a valid procmail script02:08
Fanskapettopyli does it matter if i place that row at the top of the rc file or bellow the PATH/MAILDIR/DEAFULT options in procmailrc ?02:08
fakedhi, I can't find module-assistant in ubuntu, what do I have to add to sources.list to get module-assistant?02:08
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topylivs x02:08
topyliuhh02:08
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sorush20I have a pelantronics headset and the volume control button on the inline cable does not work..02:09
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topyliFanskapet: it does matter, .procmailrc runs from top to bottom02:09
ompaulfaked, it is in universe02:09
ompaul!tell faked about repos02:09
Fanskapettopyli so it must be at the top of the file ?02:09
Belutzok :) thx nalioth & topyli  :)02:09
Fanskapetelse it will just place all mail in my ordinary folders anywy?02:10
thoreauputicompaul: hi ;) No rest forthe wicked, eh ?02:10
fakedompaul: ah, thank you, it was commented out02:10
sorush20shouldn't have ubuntu made a repositories easy.. like auto repository addition just as you install..02:10
topyliFanskapet: the filter you want to run first (SA in my case) is the first rule, the other rule is last02:10
twoSharp_My computer wont load gnome! :S I updated the system yesterday and rebooted for a while ago, and now it fails during load gnome.. whats the command to load gnome from commandline?02:10
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sorush20is ther ea windows IRC channel...02:10
ompaulfaked, you need to install build-essential to get it and its friends02:10
jetflashand South Africans here02:10
Fanskapettopyli the other rule?02:11
topylisorush20: they probably have MSN chat rooms :)02:11
topyliFanskapet: the .nkvir include rule02:11
thoreauputicsorush20: heheh - yes but it's usually silent as he grave ;)02:11
fakedompaul: ok, I'll try it02:11
thoreauputic* the grave02:11
Gnonthgolsorush20: #windows02:11
jetflashand South Africans here02:11
jetflashand South Africans here02:11
sorush20why is it silent.. lik ethe grave..02:12
Fanskapethmm02:12
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ompaulthoreauputic, sorry did not see u there, ehh you got it, in  previous life I must have been very bad :)02:12
cyphaseare there any plans for a central download manager in ubuntu?02:12
Malinfor "apt-cache search quanta" i found:02:12
Malinquanta - web development environment for KDE02:12
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thoreauputicsorush20: this is "Freenode" - windows kind of doesn't fit the picture...02:12
Malincan it be installed in ubuntu on gnome?02:12
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LinuxJonescyphase, you mean like synaptic ?02:12
ThePyromaniaci really don't understand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:13
ThePyromaniacis there anyway windows can be booted by GRUB? it says it can02:13
ompaulcyphase, or if you want aptitude02:13
twoSharp_Whats the command to load gnome from commandline?02:13
guzuThePyromaniac,ofc02:13
WhistlertwoSharp_ startx02:13
ThePyromaniacguzu: how?02:13
twoSharp_ThePyromaniac thanks =)02:14
guzuThePyromaniac, wait a sec02:14
thoreauputicMalin: sure - it will install a bunch of KDE libs, but it can run on gnome02:14
naliothMalin: yes it can02:14
topyliFanskapet: take a look: http://siltala.net/comp/dot-procmailrc02:14
nalioth!info quanta02:14
ubotuquanta: (web development environment for KDE), section web, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 2192 kB, Installed size: 5316 kB02:14
ThePyromaniactwoSharp_: um... no problem, chuckle02:14
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twoSharp_quit02:14
twoSharp_oops02:14
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ThePyromaniaccyphase: they have synaptic which can work on KDE or they have kynaptic in core!02:15
cyphasenono02:15
cyphasei don't mean for packages02:15
cyphasei mean just general downloads02:15
ThePyromaniacfor updates?02:15
ThePyromaniacthey have that too don't they?02:15
cyphaseno02:15
ompaulcyphase, what is a general download?02:15
Fanskapettopyli spamassasin is a perl script isn't it?02:15
cyphaselol02:15
cyphaselike firefox has a download manager02:15
qt2anyone happen to know how to change the position skip amount in xine?02:15
topyliFanskapet: i have no idea :)02:15
cyphasei don't mean for packages02:15
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ompaulcyphase, well for downloading what then?02:16
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cyphaselol02:16
unvsanyone had problems with amarok not playing mp3s?02:16
thoreauputiccyphase: install downloader for X ( d4x I think is the package )02:16
ompaulcyphase, #define downloads02:16
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cyphase"central"02:16
DjKriticalMy gnome has crashed... ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work... ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't either... is there anything else I can try?02:16
cyphaseompaul, you download stuff with a browser, right?02:17
ompaulyes02:17
cyphasethat kind of download02:17
ilba7r!cpufreq-selector02:17
ubotuilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?02:17
zukalkhey, when doing a .po translation, what do i do when an english string starts like this: "  ?contact has status:  "  ? what do i do about the question mark?02:17
thoreauputicunvs: see ubotu's URl below02:17
ilba7r!info cpufreq-selector02:17
ompaulcyphase, thats what I use a browser for02:17
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thoreauputic!restricted02:17
ubotuit has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:17
cyphaseyea, but a browser isn't the only program that downloads stuff02:17
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cyphasemaybe not a download manager02:17
DjKriticalanyone have any ideas?... rebooting the machine will do FS damage is that right?02:17
cyphasejust a list of downloads02:17
ilba7r!info gnome-applets02:17
ubotugnome-applets: (Various applets for GNOME 2 panel - binaries files), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.10.1-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 370 kB, Installed size: 968 kB02:18
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Fanskapettopyli hmm where do you choose where to put the spam that isn't virus?02:18
unvsthoreauputic: ah it's probably libmad0 i've forgot. thanks02:18
Fanskapetor do you put them in your "virus" dir aswell?02:18
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Malin!shortcuts02:18
ubotuMalin: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:18
Malin:/02:18
ilba7ranyone worked with cpu freq scaling?02:18
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sorush20does anyone know what the bases of the crash is ..02:19
Malinwhat is the shortcut to switch between desktops?02:19
HappyFoolMalin: alt-<left> and alt-<right> ?02:19
HappyFooloops02:19
Malinnope :-)02:19
HappyFool<ctl>-<alt>-<left>, even02:19
nerdy2ilba7r: yea, what chipset you have?02:19
topyliFanskapet: look at the script, they go to ~/viruses/spam02:19
Malinyeah, that's it :-)02:19
Malinthanks HappyFool02:20
ilba7rnerdy2 AMD 2800+02:20
HappyFoolnp02:20
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ilba7rnerdy2 i just wana know should i install a new package or just try the gnome-applets cpufreq-selector02:21
xophErHi! In xscreensaver, how can I enable 'screen fading' ? I loved it in debian but its faded out in the xcreensaver options in ubuntu.. :/02:21
topyliFanskapet: and .nkvir-rc drops viruses to ~/viruses/$VIRUSNAME but that's devined in .nkvir-rc itself02:21
nerdy2ilba7r: i dunno if i set anything up explicitly, i have powernowd installed02:21
topylidefined even02:21
cyphaseumm..02:21
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cyphasedoes anyone know why totem is playing mp3's fast?02:21
cyphasemaybe a recent update?02:21
twoSharpI keep getting this error while trying to load gnome: "xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXau.so.6: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory" and the same just "xinit" instead of "xauth" and "libX11.so.6" instead of "libXau.so.6".. what can I do?02:21
ilba7rnerdy2 i have it installed to. The problem is sometimes the cpu runs at the max freq for too long that it heats and shutdown my notebook02:21
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ompaulDjKritical, can you ssh into it?>02:22
ilba7rnerdy2 so all i wana do is to change the default setting wich is cpu intensive.02:22
ThePyromaniaccan anyone help me? i have exhuasted  guzu's brain with this one02:22
ompaulDjKritical, can you alt-tab to bring a terminal to the fore?02:22
klumoPlease help with resolution... I've installed FLUXBOX on my Ubuntu 5.04 , and my resolution went to hell ... My monitor shows it is "1600x1200" and 75 Hz ... Please help , how to change resolution in fluxbox02:23
ompaulThePyromaniac, I don't know, I have no idea what you are asking about, and I guess lots of others here are in the same boat02:23
twoSharpwhere can i get the libs "libXau.so.6" and "libX11.so.6" ??02:23
klumoI'm getting blind:)02:23
thoreauputicklumo: resolution is an X issue - not a fluxbox issue02:23
HappyFooltwoSharp: what version of ubuntu are you running?02:24
klumobut how to change it ?02:24
klumoim gettttiing bliiinndd02:24
klumo:))02:24
twoSharpHappyFool: Hoary 5.0402:24
unvshmm now it plays, but no sound :/02:24
ompaulklumo, ctrl+alt+'+'02:24
thoreauputicklumo: is your resolution normal in gnome?02:24
HappyFooltwoSharp: and how did install?02:24
ompaulklumo, ctrl+alt+'-'02:24
klumoYeap , gnome runs perfect02:24
HappyFooltwoSharp: that is, how did you install02:24
klumoI can choose from "Screen REsolution"02:24
sorush20what is the limit for the file transfere size..02:24
ThePyromaniaci was abut to explain then i had an idea ^^02:24
thoreauputicklumo: try ompaul 's suggestion02:25
twoSharpHappyFool: i formatted yesterday and everything went fine, and then i updated, and this morning i rebooted, and now it won't load gnome02:25
twoSharpHappyFool I installed it in expert mode from an original ubuntu CD02:25
HappyFooltwoSharp: ok, do you have any guesses as to what's wrong? have you got any custom settings, non-standard software?02:26
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twoSharpHappyFool: i have the seveas, hoary-backports, and hoary-extras repositories.. and i updated my computer from these reps..02:27
GnonthgolDoes anybody know how to use grub to boot from a cdrom (hdb)?02:27
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klumohmmm , now it's better , but some type of "bug" is happening. I had same problem when used tv-out in windows on my Nvidia... On TV the "screen-background" was bigger than TV screen , and when I moved pointer - it moved a whole screen02:27
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klumoi just don't know how to describe this problem:)02:28
twoSharpHappyFool I also installed skype and adobereader02:28
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GnonthgolDoes anybody know how to use grub to boot from a cdrom (hdb)?02:28
HappyFooltwoSharp: ok, i guess we should check if you have libXau.so.6 first02:28
ompaulklumo, is this in flux?02:29
klumoyeap02:29
HappyFooltwoSharp: you know how to operate from the text console?02:29
ompaulklumo, or gnome ?02:29
twoSharpHappyFool where is it located?02:29
HappyFooltwoSharp: should be in /usr/X11R6/lib02:29
twoSharpHappyFool yes, mostly02:29
twibblerPaulius: it is looking hopeful no esd .... and skype phone working .... just not in to receive ...02:29
twoSharpHappyFool I installed bitchx now so i could chat in textmode02:29
HappyFooltwoSharp: ok, you can use alt-f2 to get a new console02:30
twoSharpHappyFool OK, ill check now02:30
klumoflux , and now resolution (my monitor settings showing it) is 1024x768 and refresh rate is 8502:30
HappyFooltwoSharp: then alt-f1 to get back02:30
twoSharpHappyFool I know =) But thanks anyway :)02:30
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klumobut bug witha screen "borders" (i sad , i don't have no ideas how to describe it)02:30
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klumodamn .. :\02:31
liquidfireWhats a good direct connect client for linux02:31
liquidfirelike dc++ for windows02:31
klumoi sugest Valknut02:31
twoSharpHappyFool Yes I have libXau.so.6 in /usr/X11R6/lib02:31
SinnerGI got problems installing my onboard realtek 8139 nic on ubuntu - it 'seems' to install, but the 'Ethernet' led on my cable modem doesnt light on, and it does light on windoze +> could anyone help?02:32
tiglionabbitdoes it work though?  It doesn't matter if it lights up =P02:32
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HappyFooltwoSharp: you pasted an error earlier -- was that the full text? If not, could you paste the full error to the pastebin02:32
SinnerGno02:33
HappyFool!pastebin02:33
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:33
tiglionabbityou can post screenshots on pastebin?02:33
SinnerGI get to the step of autoconfiguring thru dhpc => it fails02:33
liquidfire!dma02:33
SinnerGthe ethernet led isnt lighted so it seems that hardware-wise the nic didnt get activated02:33
twoSharpHappyFool I dont know how to copy and paste to pastebin in textmode, but yes, it was the full error.. the text was the same only the filename and command was changed.. it first reported an error of xauth abou02:34
GnonthgolDoes anybody know how to use grub to boot from a cdrom (hdb)?02:34
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sorush20I can't kill the xine.. gui.. can somone help02:34
HappyFooltwoSharp: seveas has a little script which will send text to the pastebin02:34
tiglionabbitGnonthgol: can't you instruct your bios to do that?02:34
twoSharpHappyFool first it reported an errror with xauth about 4 times, then it reported xinit and then xauth one more ti,me02:34
tiglionabbitor is this more complex than that..02:34
Gnonthgoltiglionabbit: I can but grub is cooler02:35
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keikozGnonthgol just indicate the image of the cd in your grub02:35
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tiglionabbitwhy not try adding an entry for it02:35
keikozlike for another partition02:35
tiglionabbitin /boot/grub/menu.lst02:35
GnonthgolFilesystem type unknown, partition type 0xf02:35
keikozarf yes that's normal02:36
HappyFooltwoSharp: hmm. you're starting X with 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' ?02:36
keikozif the cd-filesystem isnt build inside the kernel but as module, you cant02:36
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CentraXhi02:36
CentraXplease help me02:36
twoSharpHappyFool If you copy the eror i reported and copy it in 7 lines and change line number 6 to xxinit instead of xauth you get the complete error02:36
twoSharpHappyFool This error I got while writing startx in console02:37
Gnonthgolkeikoz: can I build it inside the kernet then?02:37
Gnonthgol*kernel02:37
SinnerGAnyone who can help me with installing a realtek 8139 onboard nic, pls query me => its the only thing stopping me from switching to linux ;)02:37
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klumoit's me :02:37
twoSharpHappyFool I didn't sudo startx i remember now.. maybe thats the reason?02:37
thoreauputictwoSharp: no02:37
nalioth_zZzSinnerG: is that a wired nic?02:38
thoreauputictwoSharp: you satrtx as your user02:38
keikozGnonthgol yes, but that mean recompiling the kernel, and putting it onto your cd-rom02:38
thoreauputic*startx02:38
twoSharpHappyFool same error while sudo startx02:38
SinnerGnalioth: what you mean by that?02:38
twoSharpthoreauputic OK =)02:38
nalioth_zZzSinnerG: do you plug a cable into  the nic or is it wireless?02:38
SinnerGcable in it02:39
Gnonthgolkeikoz: Ok, then I think I woud just boot from the cd instead02:39
nalioth_zZzSinnerG: go ahead and install ubuntu, your nic will be recognized02:39
SinnerGI tried..02:39
SinnerGaround 6 times ;)02:39
SinnerGit does get reconized02:39
SinnerGbut it doesnt seem to 'start' the nice02:40
HappyFooltwoSharp: hmm. i'm not terribly familiar with xauth, but what happens if you run that at the command line?02:40
keikozi think it's really easier Gnonthgol02:40
liquidfirewww.mplayerhq.hu/ can somebody get on that site02:40
nalioth_zZzSinnerG: i'm not understanding02:40
SinnerG*nic - the ethernet led on my cable modems doesnt light on02:40
liquidfireit keeps giving me timeout errors =/02:40
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nalioth_zZzSinnerG: the devil with lights, do you get on the network with it?02:40
SinnerGnalioth_zZz: no :P02:40
twoSharpHappyFool should i execute the command xauth in console now you mean?02:40
nalioth_zZzSinnerG: then it seems to me there is a hardware problem02:40
HappyFooltwoSharp: yeah02:40
GnonthgolThen I am off to install skolelinux02:40
nalioth_zZzSinnerG: go buy another nic (they're cheap)02:41
SinnerGnalioth_zZz: it does light on windows and it does work on it without problems :p02:41
nalioth_zZzSinnerG: yer kiddin02:41
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nalioth_zZzSinnerG: there's about a bazillion of those nics out there02:41
SinnerGnalioth_zZz: I know (googled)02:41
nalioth_zZzSinnerG: linux recognizes and works on everyone that i've installed02:41
SinnerGnalioth_zZz: I 'once' got it to work by altering the bios02:41
SinnerGnalioth_zZz: but I tried to change everything : not working anymore02:42
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twoSharpHappyFool: same error "xauth: error while loading shared libraries: libXau.so.6: could not open shared object file: No such file or directory"02:42
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nalioth_zZzgood night, all02:42
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twoSharpHappyFool but this time i just got one error..02:43
HappyFooltwoSharp: ok, i'd like to see output of some commands; we can either use pastebin or #flood02:43
guzuSinnerG, /sbin/ifconfig02:43
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twoSharpHappyFool could we take it in priv? its hard to see iff you write to me in bitchx cause i dot have highlighting02:43
HappyFooltwoSharp: might be easiest02:44
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HappyFoolanyone know how /exec works in bitchx? i want to see the output of a command someone else is /exec'ing02:49
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mirakhi02:53
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BergcubeI am using X-Chat and I'm very happy with it.  But my /whois information is rather bland.  I remember that long time ago in an OS far far away I used mIRC and there I could somehow format the /whois info and add more lines etc.  (But it's been a few years since I was on IRC much...)  Can I do the same thing in X-Chat?  How?  Do I have to install and run Inetd to do this?  And if so, will I need to open a port on my dedicated firewall as wel02:57
Bergcubel?02:57
HappyFoolBergcube: if you don't get any response here, try in #xchat02:58
HappyFoolBergcube: i believe there are xchat scripts etc, but i don't know where you'd find them -- maybe www.xchat.org02:59
BergcubeHappyFool~ Errr.  Hehe.  It's about now I should be slapping my forehead.  Well, this is what happens when you get very good help in a channel, you tend to ask everything in one place.02:59
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HappyFoolheh ;) np.03:00
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guzuthnx again lilo :)03:02
mirakis it possible to resize a ext3 partition ?03:02
guzumirak, check parted03:02
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fanopnaicmirak: /sbin/resize2fs03:03
Ngguzu: I'm quite impressed with how I haven't seen a single spambot, but lilo has been wittering endlessly for days at me ;)03:03
fanopnaicmirak: assuming you mean filesystem, not partition.03:03
mirakfanopnaic: can it shrink ?03:03
mirakpartition03:03
mirakI have done this resize once03:03
mirakthat's scary03:03
guzuNg, i have seen some, sunday :)03:04
guzuoh, no sunday it's today, that means i saw them friday :)03:04
EasterSunshine/mode $me +CE03:04
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unvswoohoo mp3 works :D03:05
guzuis there something like conf.modules in ubuntu 5.04?03:06
HappyFoolguzu: might be the same as /etc/modules or /etc/modprobe.d .. (?)03:08
guzuHappyFool, yes ,i tm y be but syntax looks different ... thnx03:08
guzuit may be03:09
shinuif i dont permit root to log in via ssh, does it just sit there with the pass prompt when i try to log in with root?03:09
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guzui'm just trying to make a sound card work03:09
HappyFoolshinu: i think it'll ``pretend'' the password is wrong every time03:10
xophErHi! How can I enable the 'fade out' option in xscreensaver? It seems to be disabled. Do I need to install something or?03:10
shinuHappyFool: it just gives me another prompt without saying anything, is it?03:10
HappyFoolguzu: you want to force a module to load on boot, force one not to load, or specify parameters for loading?03:10
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HappyFoolshinu: yeah, pretty much. same thing happens if you enter an incorrect password03:10
shinusee03:11
NoHopehello all03:11
shinuthanks03:11
HappyFoolshinu: i think the client (or server?) closes the connection after 3 tries03:11
shinuyes :D03:11
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icpichi all03:12
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icpicwondering if anyone can help me sort out a ubuntu install issue03:13
HappyFoolicpic: what's the problem?03:13
Bergcubeicpic~ I'm sure we can try........03:14
Uthini!cedega03:14
ubotucedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega03:14
Uthini!nvidiatweaks03:14
ubotuUthini: I don't know, could you explain it?03:14
Uthini!nvidiatweaks03:14
icpicwell actually I have successfully installed it and everything is working fine, but i am trying to get the hardware buttons working03:14
icpicI am using a laptop Dell inspiron 850003:15
icpicknow where I can get more information about hardware buttons on laptops?03:15
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HappyFoolicpic: for starters you can try system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts; select an action, and see what happens when you puch the button03:16
icpicok03:16
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unvswhat's a good stable (preferrably with gui) bittorrent client to use with ubuntu?03:19
Bergcubeicpic~I've read on the Ubuntu users mailing list that people aren't always happy with Dell laptops.  But that might be for other reasons.03:19
vader1102Bergcube; I am using one to speak to you03:19
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Bergcubeunvs~ Gnome Bittorrent.  Installed by default.  Works like a charm.03:20
unvsBergcube: oh. thanks :)03:20
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Bergcubevader1102~ Goes to show that mileages vary.  I have one too that I'm happy with.  (Even if I use it less than monthly...)03:21
Bergcubeunvs~ No problem.  Share and enjoy!03:21
vader1102this one is pretty old, a p2 366 with 256 MB RAM lol, runs Ubuntu like no problem03:22
snooodoes anyone else find the ppc version on unrar awful?03:23
snoooppc version of even03:23
snoooby which i mean the one that is packaged with ubuntu03:23
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icpichi again, pressed the wrong key and rebooted my laptop :)03:24
BergcubeTalking about Bittorrent.  The alternative editions of stuff you can get there is a very good help in deciding what to buy and what I don't like that well.  I use http://www.boxtorrents.com/ and http://thepiratebay.org/  Any other good suggestions?03:24
HappyFoolicpic: oops03:24
icpichaha03:24
HappyFoolicpic: does the keyboard preferences thing work?03:24
vader1102<-----going back to bed, the wife is away and so is the kid lol, so I have tottal quiet "first time in 7 years"03:25
icpici am trying to set my power button to sleep rather then turn laptop off03:25
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icpici don't know yet03:25
icpicis there some special script i need to set up for the PC to sleep rather then power down03:25
HappyFoolthat i don't know much about, sorry03:26
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icpicok I will keep trying03:26
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icpicbut thanks for trying to help anyway!!!03:26
Zukerohi03:26
Zukero anyone here knows about a good chan to help with windows security issues ?03:26
Bergcubeicpic~ A good friend of mine gave me the advice to never use sleep or hibernate in Linux.  Either keep it on (the default) or turn it off (weirdo).03:26
Zukerolike trojan and/or viruses03:26
HappyFoolZukero: try maybe #windows ?03:27
thoreauputicZukero: advice: install Linux ;)03:27
Zukerolol03:27
icpicyeah if it was my desktop I don't mind leaving it running, but the laptop, I dont want to constantly it running03:27
Zukeroi AM running ubuntu03:27
Zukerobut03:27
Zukerofor games03:27
Zukeroyou know03:27
BergcubeZukero~ Download and burn the UBCD.  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/  Boot your machine from the CD.  Fix your problem.  :-)03:27
icpicso i guess i will be turning the thing off03:27
icpicbut I will prob ask at my next Lug03:28
Zukerohmmm03:28
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kemikZukero:  this isnt a windows help channel, even if youre dualbooting ,)03:28
HappyFoolicpic: you can look mayb here for more:03:28
HappyFool!laptop03:28
ubotuI heard laptop is http://www.linux-laptop.net/03:28
Zukeroyeah i know03:28
LokeDKis it possible to have more than one ssh key in ~/.ssh/id_dsa ?03:28
Zukeroi was looking for an adress for a windows help chan :)03:28
icpicgreat thanks, will try that now03:28
guzuZukero, play in qemu/vmware under linux03:28
deufohi peeps, how come there is no difference on a firewall port scan whether i turn shorewall on or off?03:28
HappyFoolLokeDK: you can setup a config file to specify what key file to use with what host03:28
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thoreauputicdeufo: because ipables is running either way?03:29
liquidfirewhats the link of the icecast sum up03:29
vladuz976how can i add a dir to my PATH variable?03:29
liquidfirelike shoutcast03:29
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liquidfireI can't find it anymore03:29
liquidfire=/03:29
deufothoreauputic, but then if i turn shorewall on, iptales -L gives different things03:29
HappyFoolLokeDK: see 'man ssh_config' -- you want to tweak ~/.ssh/ssh_config03:29
liquidfireI mean the radiocasts03:29
thoreauputicdeufo: I don't know shorewall but I assume it's a front end for iptables, right ?03:29
ekimusvladuz976: export PATH=newdir:$PATH in bash03:30
deufothoreauputic, yep03:30
LokeDKHappyFool, oh thanks a lot03:30
LokeDK:)03:30
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Paradoxxwhat program would you all recommend for video playback..03:30
Paradoxxlike .avis etc03:30
BergcubeHappyFool~ I did ask in the #xchat channel.  That didn't help me one iota.  But thanks a lot for the suggestion.  Guess I've got to Google for howtos.03:30
HappyFool(!start a media player war ;)03:30
thoreauputicdeufo: hmm - well I use firestarter and whether the GUI is running or not makes no difference03:30
ekimusLokeDK: its ~/.ssh/config not ~/.ssh/ssh_config03:30
icpicubotu: THANKS, there is a few clues there that might help03:30
ubotuicpic: pas de quoi03:30
liquidfireParadoxx,03:30
HappyFoolBergcube: been to www.xchat.org?03:30
vladuz976ekimus, yeah but that will only be for that terminal right?03:31
liquidfirevideolan03:31
HappyFoolekimus: oops, sorry03:31
liquidfireits know as VLC in the repos03:31
ParadoxxHappyFool: hehe, i'd rather not, i'm a linux newb, and just trying to get replacements for all my W$ apps03:31
Paradoxxliquidfire: yes?03:31
liquidfirelol :)?03:31
LokeDKekimus, okay i'll have a look03:31
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liquidfirevlc = videolan client03:31
liquidfiregreat player :)03:31
ekimusvladuz976: yes, add it to your ~/.bashrc if you want it to be set everytime you login (there's even some example for the ~/bin directory in there)03:31
LokeDKekimus, does not exist03:31
ekimusLokeDK: so create it03:31
Paradoxxcan i aptget it?03:32
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BergcubeHappyFool~ Of course.  It left me unimpressed.  At least with regards to this feature.03:32
deufothoreauputic, ah ty03:32
ekimusLokeDK: manpage is ss_config (like HappyFool said said) filename is just config03:32
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vladuz976ekimus, .bashrc has nothing about the path in it03:33
Paradoxxwhat about like mplayer? or somthing like that?03:33
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liquidfireParadoxx,03:33
liquidfireyes03:33
liquidfireapt-get vlc03:33
liquidfirebut i think its in the universe servers03:33
Paradoxxkk03:33
liquidfireso you should enable the xtra servers first03:33
Paradoxxy that against say, mplayer?03:33
thoreauputic!info vlc03:33
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB03:33
LokeDKekimus, yeah found out now.. thanks03:34
liquidfireParadoxx, i can't say that03:34
Paradoxxkk dude03:34
liquidfireI love VLC :)03:34
Paradoxxty03:34
liquidfiregreat options etc03:34
icpicHappyFool: in case your interested, the solutions for my problem should be to use the Hotkeys package, but i have to test this solutions03:34
ekimusvladuz976: then just look at .bash_profile (the bash manpage although quite large is your friend here)03:35
Paradoxxkk, getting it03:35
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liquidfireCan somebody help me a sec, i'm looking for a shoutcast sumup like shoutcast.com but then for the ogg streams03:36
vladuz976nn03:36
liquidfireBut I can't find it :/03:36
HappyFoolicpic: ok, thanks03:36
moparfan90hello. i am trying to install mplayer. can some one help me with this? please03:36
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HappyFoolicpic: interesting. i have extra keys, and wasn't sure how to assign arbitrary actions -- looks like this package will let me do that03:37
ekimusmoparfan90: i think that's in universal just apt-get install mplayer after adding those repos03:37
ekimus!repos03:37
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:37
liquidfirenobody :?03:37
moparfan90i had all that but just reinstalled linux so i have to do it again03:38
HappyFoolliquidfire: google for icecast -- i think you'll find a directory of streams03:38
liquidfireHappyFool, i did03:38
liquidfireI'll try again03:38
icpicok all good night03:38
ekimusmoparfan90: yes03:38
thoreauputicliquidfire: install streamtuner - ogg streamsare listed03:38
liquidfiremaybe i overlooked something03:38
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HappyFoolliquidfire: dir.xiph.org/index.php03:39
Madeyedamn03:39
Madeyewhy ubuntu is being spammed?03:39
ekimusMadeye: topic03:39
\dev\goatbecause people have way too much free time03:39
liquidfirethanks HappyFool03:39
liquidfire:)03:39
liquidfire<303:39
vladuz976ekimus, hey i added it to /etc/profile but when i echo $PATH it still looks the same03:39
Madeyeekimus, my question was "Why"03:40
ekimusvladuz976: you have to either 'source /etc/profile' or open a new shell03:40
ekimusMadeye: metaquestion03:40
vladuz976ekimus, how do i source it?03:40
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ekimusvladuz976: i gave you the command, hence the "'"03:41
moparfan90can some one help me add multiverse and that other one i ddont get how to ??03:41
ekimus!repos03:41
thoreauputic!repos03:41
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:41
ekimushehe03:41
HappyFoolmoparfan90: have you read the wiki links?03:42
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moparfan90yeah03:42
moparfan90what do i type?03:42
thoreauputicekimus: heh - ubotu: Someone already said that 0 seconds ago03:42
thoreauputic;-)03:42
xeonaphobehi, could i steal a few minutes of someones time? having problems...03:43
thoreauputicxeonaphobe: just ask03:43
thoreauputic!ask03:43
ekimusthoreauputic: at least ubotu is smart enough not to paste it twice :)03:43
kemikmoparfan90:  read the wikipage until you understand what is said03:43
thoreauputicekimus: indeed :)03:43
xeonaphoberighto, well i'm sure you'll be surprised to hear it's a sound issue03:44
HappyFoolmoparfan90: tell us if something on the wiki is not clear03:44
xeonaphobei've been through wiki03:44
xeonaphobeand many forum posts03:44
xeonaphobenone of the solutions have helped03:44
thoreauputicxeonaphobe: weird, we never hear about sound issues <j/k>03:44
xeonaphobe:P03:44
liquidfirecan somebody of you guys open the mplayer page :o?03:45
liquidfireI can't seem to open it anymore03:45
kemikliquidfire:  seems to be down03:45
liquidfireyeah :/03:45
liquidfireAnybody  got the codec package ?03:45
kemikmaybe just temp.03:45
kemikyes i do actually03:45
ekimusliquidfire: mplayer.org is fine here03:45
liquidfirewierd03:46
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liquidfirekemik, could you send it ?03:46
liquidfirevia mail or something03:46
liquidfirebtw ekimus its www.mplayer.hu03:46
guzui don't think so03:47
thoreauputicxeonaphobe: so far you haven't said what the problem is or what errors you get - kind of hard for anyone to help03:47
thoreauputic!tell xeonaphobe about ask03:47
moparfan90ok i did it and dont think it worked03:48
liquidfirekemik, could you send it :o?03:48
ekimusliquidfire: 404 here03:48
kemikliquidfire:  pm03:48
liquidfireyeah ekimus same :)03:48
guzuliquidfire, last time i checked was down03:48
liquidfireI know i'm not the only one now03:48
guzumplayerhq, i mean03:48
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Fanskapettopyli still there?03:49
Fanskapet Subject: FileList.org account details03:49
Fanskapet  Folder: /var/mail/fanskapet                                              167103:49
FanskapetYou have new mail in /var/mail/fanskapet03:49
_lui_hello03:50
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Fanskapet.procmail seems to want to place some of my mail there instead of my Maildir in %HOME%03:50
topyliFanskapet: oh, it might wanna do that03:51
topyliFanskapet: that's the mailbox i use03:51
Fanskapethmm.. someway to change this?03:51
topylimust be03:51
Fanskapeti really want all the emails on one place :)03:51
Fanskapetelse i won't really have much use of the imapd :)03:51
_lui_anybody here lives in Louisiana or Mississippi?03:51
ekimusFanskapet: MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail/03:52
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ekimusFanskapet: man procmailrc :)03:52
Fanskapetekimus i've done that in procmailrc03:52
Fanskapetbut i guess this has todo with spam assasin03:52
Fanskapetsince those filelist account details probable is pointed out as spam by it03:53
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ekimusFanskapet: than either your spamassassin config is b0rked or your .procmailrc because here it works03:53
Fanskapetif i send a "normal" email to me then it's saved in my %HOME/Maildir/ folder03:53
ekimusFanskapet: and what's a "not so normal" mail?03:54
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Fanskapetekimus, http://pastebin.com/34841903:54
medamaybeI read on the forums that  "subo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1" will add sound to my flash player in firefox, I have had bad experiences with esd before...is it safe to use this command?03:55
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Fanskapetekimus, a mail that has been selected as spam or virus03:55
Fanskapetinstead of being just a plain mail03:55
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ekimusFanskapet: DEFAULT=INBOX03:55
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ekimusFanskapet: that will create an INBOX file relative to MAILDIR for all the mails not put somewhare with other filters03:56
fanopnaicmedamaybe: yes.03:57
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BergcubeBye all.03:57
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ekimusFanskapet: but i just saw you are using maildir as the format so maybe add the trailing slash03:58
ZincXim having trouble with my gaim .. i wanted to upgrade the current version(1.1.0) to 1.5.0 manually.. and then now gaim is messed up.. what can i do /03:58
medamaybefanopnaic, ok. in the man page of ln I read that ln makes a "link" to a file? what kind of link is that?03:59
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Fanskapetso DEFAULT=INBOX at the top of the file should do the trick?03:59
fanopnaicmedamaybe: a symbolic link is roughly a shortcut under windows.03:59
fanopnaicnothing dangerous. you can always delete it anyways.03:59
medamaybehow about a hard link?03:59
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moparfan90what package is the mplayer in? when i type sudo apt=get install mplayer i get 'E: Couldn't find package mplayer04:00
moparfan90'04:00
ZincXoops.. rong channel04:00
twibblerPaulius: Skype all working great thank you ....04:00
fanopnaicmedamaybe: a hard link is roughly an alias for a file. which means, if you delete the hard link, you delete the file as well.04:00
spo0nmanare there any official/unofficial e17 packages?04:00
medamaybeI see04:00
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ekimusFanskapet: well after you defined MAILDIR of course04:00
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fanopnaicmedamaybe: so don't use a hard link for the task at hand :)04:01
medamaybefanopnaic, and I can delete both hard links and symbolic links? and how do I do that exactly?04:01
ZincXhmm.. correct channel :S04:01
ekimusmedamaybe: unlink04:01
ekimusmedamaybe: or rm04:01
thoreauputic!E04:01
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105 Repo: deb http://ubuntu.nooms.de/ hoary04:01
Lodis4 I have a question: I have a 3 in 1 (network) printer I setup to print to that one in Ubuntu, can I also use the scanner with xsane? or does the scanner have to be locally connected?04:01
spo0nmanthanks thoreauputic.04:01
mirakI should have installed LVM04:02
thoreauputicspo0nman: :)04:02
medamaybeunlink <what?>04:02
mirak:-/04:02
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ZincXno one to help :S sheesh04:02
medamaybebut in this case /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 already exists, right? so if I unlink that, I will delete a file which may be needed by something else, right?04:03
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ekimusmedamaybe: you don't unlink the original you unlink (or rm) the link04:04
medamaybehow?04:04
ekimusmedamaybe: unlink filename04:05
scaleanyone have any advice on using a USB hard drive with ubuntu?04:05
scalei.e., what file system to use, permissions, etc?04:05
ekimusmedamaybe: read "man ln" and "man unlink"04:05
Kuolioscale, it works out-of-the-box for me O.o04:05
ekimusscale: if you interchange with windows either vfat or ext2. otherwise use the defaults04:06
scalewhat's the default?04:06
mjrscale, usually I'd use some filesystem with no native permissions and support for many operating systems on removable drives (eg. fat32, if performance is not an issue)04:06
medamaybeekimus: I read both of those pages, I just don't get how I can delete a link without deleting the actual files04:06
ce33nascale: I had problems with one of the cheaper drives that my inlaws purchased. Otherwise, everything just works.04:06
scalemjr: thanks... i'll give that a shot. the permissions thing was giving me trouble04:07
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thoreauputicmedamaybe: the link is just a pointer - you can rm it04:07
dv_hello04:07
dv_I have problems with localhost04:07
dalamaranyone running gtkpod w/ an ipod shuffle or any ipod? troubles with some songs vutting off at the end, wondering if its bad encoding of the songs or if I may be doing something wrong?04:07
dv_it is unusable04:07
scalece33: i guess this is one of the cheaper ones... it's a wd hd in a cheap diy casing...04:07
dv_I cant ping 127.0.0.1 or localhost, 100% packet loss04:07
ce33nadv:have you talked it out with him04:07
medamaybeok, I understand tht the "link" is a pointer, but unlink <filename> removes the file, right? so how do I remove the link?04:07
ce33nasorry04:07
dv_127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost lap19 <- this line is present in /etc/hosts04:08
ZincXim having trouble with my gaim .. i wanted to upgrade the current version(1.1.0) to 1.5.0 manually.. and then now gaim is messed up.. what can i do ?04:08
dalamarunlink removes the link, hence the name04:08
jkossenZincX: define manually04:08
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ekimusmedamaybe: open an shell go to your homedir do: "mkdir foo" "cd foo" "touch somefile" "ln -s somefile symboliclink" "ls -l" "unlink symboliclink" "ln somefile samefile" "ls -l" "rm samefile" "ls -l" "cd .." "rm -rf foo" and the next time please be so kind to try such things by yourself in your homedir, with files you don't really need.04:08
thoreauputicmedamaybe: if you run ls -l on the link you will see that it just ---> points at the file. You remove the file that shows as a link04:09
medamaybefanopnaic just showed me an example, I get it now04:09
medamaybethanks for the help04:09
xeonaphoberighty! I'll try that again...the problem I'm having is that I get no sound what so ever. I've followed the solution on the ubuntu FAQ page involving esd.conf04:09
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ekimus.oO(sometimtes i really can understand the rtfm guys :)04:10
xeonaphobei'm running a soundblaster 1024 and ubuntu does seem to recognise it04:10
thoreauputic!sound04:10
uboturumour has it, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/04:10
medamaybeekimus: the fm is not always clear enough04:10
brennerxeonaphobe: great! no problems then. :)04:10
dv_argh04:10
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thoreauputicxeonaphobe: try running alsamixer, use "m" to mute/unmute04:11
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dv_nobody has an idea :/#04:11
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xeonaphobehm no luck :(04:11
ekimusmedamaybe: but there wouldn't have been a problem if you cd'd to your home dir create a test directory and play there until you understand. another good thing about that way is that you will know for sure how to do that the next time04:12
kemikdv_:  do "ifconifg" and paste result04:12
kemikifconfig even04:12
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Lodis4xeonaphobe: make sure you have diabled onboards sound in the BIOS first, it cost me 2 days of searching and that was the simple solution04:12
thoreauputicxeonaphobe: then read ubotu's link above04:12
ekimusdv_: use a paste service don't paste here04:12
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Fanskapetekimus,  Subject: FileList.org password reset confirmation04:12
Fanskapet  Folder: /home/fanskapet/Maildir/.INBOX/new/1125238196.27243_0.router     192204:12
thoreauputicxeonaphobe:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/  in case you missed it04:12
xeonaphoberighty, i'll have another look04:12
xeonaphobethanks04:13
Fanskapetatleast it's in the right "maildir" :)04:13
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x[x] guys04:13
ekimusFanskapet: so?04:13
Fanskapetbut he uses another form of mail-folders.04:13
dv_http://rafb.net/paste/results/XeuaGe84.html04:13
x[x] how do u delete a file in linux?04:13
kemikekimus:  yea sometimes you wanna scream RTFM F* NOOB ;) ehehe04:13
ZincXjkossen, manually as in compiling from a tar.gz file.04:13
thoreauputicx[x] : rm <file>04:13
x[x] i tried that04:13
ekimuskemik: i really like "www.justfuckinggoogleit.com", love the guy who set up that site :)04:13
kemikdv_:  type "ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1" and it'll work04:13
thoreauputicx[x] : and it said premission denied, right?04:14
dv_yes, but every time I start up ubuntu, I have to do this04:14
x[x] yes04:14
x[x] no04:14
ekimusFanskapet: so just use the same identifier you use for your other maildirs04:14
x[x] it says invalid file or directory04:14
kemikekimus:  ah never seen that one ;)04:14
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kemikdv_:  look in you /etc/network/interfaces and paste that file too04:14
probonohi all, can the live cd be used to install?04:14
probonoor do i have to download the installer cd also?04:14
thoreauputicx[x] : erm, then you are pointing at a file that doesn't exist in that dir, I guess04:14
ekimusprobono: no04:14
x[x] well ok04:15
medamaybethese "noobs" are only noobs because a lot of the "gurus" **** at them if they don't understand something04:15
x[x] its in the main folder04:15
x[x] which is / right?04:15
x[x] and the file is called pup00104:15
x[x] i went rm -r pup00104:15
thoreauputicx[x] :  / is the root directory04:15
Fanskapetekimus, http://pastebin.com/34843104:15
x[x] so rm -r /pup001 ?04:15
HappyFoolrm -r is not needed for files04:15
Lodis4medamaybe : thank You04:15
probonoekimus: if I copied everything with cp -a to my hd and then changed the init scripts, why wouldn't it work?04:15
x[x] hmm04:15
dalamarsure its not in your home dir and not /?04:15
thoreauputicx[x] : what is that file doing in /  ?04:15
x[x] uhh04:15
ekimusprobono: ?04:16
x[x] i wanna get rid of ubuntu04:16
medamaybeLodis4: for what..?04:16
x[x] so i temporarily installed puppylinux04:16
Lodis4for the gurus comment04:16
probonoi would like to "clone" the live cd to my hd (like knoppix and kanotix do)04:16
ekimusFanskapet: looks fine to me DEFAULT and the other mailboxes have the same trailing character so the should be the same format04:16
kemikdv_:  died on me?04:16
medamaybeah ok :)04:16
jkossenZincX: perhaps there's a make uninstall, or you could move your ~/.gaim out of the way, or try reinstalling 1.1.0 from apt04:17
ekimusFanskapet: btw. for example on line 17, no need to specify $HOME/Maildir that's what MAILDIR is set for04:17
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HappyFoolx[x] : to remove ubuntu use a live cd or your new system's install CD, and wipe out the partition(s) ubuntu is on04:17
ekimusFanskapet: all mailboxes you define are relative to MAILDIR04:17
dv_kemik, yeah somehow the wlan card seems to prevent lo from being configured04:17
dv_disabled the wlan card on startup, works now04:17
kemikdv_:  so you've got a perm. solution ?04:17
dv_yes04:18
dv_I need to switch on the card manually anyway04:18
kemikok04:18
ekimusprobono: that won't work ubntu uses a quite different system (before boot there's no user on the cd, it's created during boot), just download the install iso. it's much easier04:18
dv_as well as the lan04:18
dv_you know, that would be a nice improvement.04:18
Fanskapetekimus hmm okey.04:19
dv_right now, ubuntu insists on configuring the network adapters on startup04:19
dv_but especially with laptops thats not a good idea04:19
probonoekimus: i'm pretty sure that one could do it technically, by just replacing the init scripts (a very small download)04:19
probonobut ok04:19
kemikdv_:  just remove the appropriate lines from interfaces would probably leave them alone04:19
ekimusprobono: sure, but the traidoff would be large. (traidoff betwee effort and downloading)04:20
dv_well I mean that it would be ok to automatically configure them if for example a network cable were plugged in04:20
dv_here, however, ubuntu doesnt care and tries to configure eth0 no matter if a cable is plugged in04:20
dv_thats why I disabled the automatic config completely for eth0 before04:20
probonoekimus: no, i think it would be sufficient to pack the /etc/init.d of a fresh install into a .tgz04:20
jkossenZincX: next time perhaps http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ is a better option04:20
unrealwhat would be the usual non-secure pop3 daemon to use?04:21
probonoekimus: i just saw that kubuntu now uses a combined live/install cd http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/kubuntu/dvd/current/04:21
ekimusprobono: never tried, i got tired off fiddling around with such things. i use ubuntu because i don't want to start configuring stuff that really has to work out of the box. for servers i use bsd anyways04:21
HappyFoolwell, from the URL, that's a DVD - the ubuntu dvd is also live/install04:22
ekimusprobono: that's the dvd you were asking about the cd04:22
delltonycan someone help me in installing kde-devel package i get dependencies out the ying yang04:22
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probonoaahh oops04:22
ekimusprobono: the live cd does contain the full installer. it's just "configured to configure itself" to set up an environment for the live session not for installing04:24
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ekimushmm should it be save to use realloc() on a pointer, where no malloc() or calloc() has been assigned before?04:26
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HappyFoolekimus: i think it maybe has to be null04:26
unrealanyone know of a decent non-secure pop3 daemon?04:26
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ekimusunreal: non-secure?04:26
unrealyeah, as in, non SSL04:27
fanopnaicekimus: yes.04:27
dylanrogerswhy will vista be so insecure04:27
HappyFoolekimus: yeah, from man realloc, if ptr is null, realloc is equivalent to malloc04:27
ekimusHappyFool: ah yeah true, otherwise realloc could think theres something assigned search for \0 and move just move some part of the kernel out of the (in the worst case)04:27
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ekimus+way04:28
bytefoohey, anyone know how I can test my video card? maybe a glxgears for ati or something of that nature?04:28
delltonycurious is there a command for aptitude to show all installed packages kinda like apt-get show or something?04:29
HappyFooldelltony: dpkg -l04:29
ekimusbytefoo: a benchmark?04:29
delltonyok i was wondering abut that thanks04:29
bytefooi suppose04:29
ekimusbytefoo: otherwise just "glxinfo | grep render" if it says yes everything's fine04:30
delltonyone other thing you wouldn't happen to know how to get the kde headers would you? i seen on the forum someone else had the same issue but not solution04:30
bytefooi think hardware acceleration isn't running so i want to check :X04:30
delltonyhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=290653#post29065304:30
bytefooi dont have glxinfo04:30
ekimusbytefoo: if you have X you have glxinfo, it's a shell program, open a terminal and type the command i gave you04:30
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bytefoolisten04:31
bytefooi dont have it04:31
HappyFooldelltony: i'm not a kde developer, but let me take a quick look04:31
bytefoobytefoo@junx:~$ glxinfo04:31
bytefoobash: glxinfo: command not found04:31
delltonythats fine i'm not a devel either just trying to compile kmobiletools04:31
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HappyFooldelltony: how about the 'kdelibs4-dev' package ?04:32
thoreauputicbytefoo: are you running breezy?04:32
delltonylet me try that04:32
ekimusbytefoo: apt-get install xbase-clients04:32
delltonyi get dependency errors out the butt04:32
bytefooyes thoreauputic04:33
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delltonythats the one i was tryinig before04:33
thoreauputicekimus: different package for breezy04:33
HappyFooldelltony: have you enabled the network repositories04:33
bytefoo:X04:33
delltonyi thought so04:33
thoreauputicbytefoo: apt-cache search glx maybe04:33
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delltonymaybe i'm missing one04:33
HappyFooldelltony: yeah; compare with the second link below04:33
HappyFool!repos04:33
chifinaly java is back!04:33
ubotusomebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:33
Dr_MelectausCan anyone tell me if there is a terminal command to get a system harware/ software spec?04:33
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Dr_Melectaushardware**04:34
delltonysecond link below sorry i'm confused04:34
HappyFooldelltony: what ubotu just posted04:34
delltonyoh ok04:34
thoreauputicDr_Melectaus: lshw, lspci04:34
brennerthoreauputic: why would lshw requre sudo?04:35
thoreauputicbrenner: I asume it has to read protected files - dunno04:35
brennerah, ok ... just curious04:36
Dr_Melectaus heers thoreauputic04:36
ekimusbrenner: not all files in /dev /proc /sys are by default world readable04:36
thoreauputicbrenner: it still outputs stuff as user though04:36
Paradoxxwhen you guys started useing linux... how hard did you find it?04:36
ZincXjkossen, no luck :(04:36
ZincXshit04:36
fanopnaicParadoxx: enormous.04:36
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MAPDhi04:37
liquidfirehow should i use nvclock ?04:37
ekimusParadoxx: well i'm a chaotic person so my cd set was everywhere i was not looking for :)04:37
thoreauputicParadoxx: pretty hard at first - you need to read a lot etc04:37
ekimusParadoxx: for that matter very hard ;)04:37
MAPDcan ubuntu change stuff on bios like the time because i entered linux and the hour is always wrong and i have dual boot and logged on windows and the hour was wrong too04:37
thoreauputicMAPD:  rerun  sudo base-config and choose the "other" time setting (not UTC)04:38
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ekimusMAPD: that's because ubuntu want's the bios time UTC and windows in local time i assume. and yes it can change stuff like the bios time as well as windows can04:38
thoreauputicMAPD: windows uses the system clock, ubuntu/linux uses UTC by default04:39
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brennerekimus: ah ok... interesting04:39
MAPDthoreauputic04:40
thoreauputic?04:40
MAPDand ekimus04:40
MAPDi logged04:40
MAPDon windows and it was differente04:40
MAPDon windows and it was different04:40
ekimusMAPD: just ask, please don't highlight nicknames for no reason04:40
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MAPDand i had to change on bios back04:41
HappyFoolerk. to compile one little python library I need to download 10MB of C dev libraries04:41
thoreauputicMAPD: yes, we understood - and base-config can reset it04:41
MAPDso now on my account the hour is correct04:41
ekimusMAPD: if you change the time in windows, windows changes the bios time to.04:41
MAPDand on linux hour is inccorrect04:41
MAPDekimus it didnt04:41
MAPDlol04:41
WarpedShadowHow do I enable/install a SMP kernel in hoary?04:41
MAPDeverytime i run linux offline04:41
MAPDit says it cant find a time server04:41
delltonyhappy i keep getting this crap when trying to install the kde libs Depends: libxml2-dev but it is not going to be installed04:41
delltony Depends: libxslt1-dev but it is not going to be installed04:41
MAPDand it makes an hour04:42
MAPDhow to fix?04:42
ekimusMAPD: it does, it's just because ubuntu thinks the time in the bios is set to utc and adjusts it's internal clock04:42
thoreauputicMAPD: just hit ctrl-c when it tries to connect to the time-server04:42
ekimusMAPD: 16:38 < thoreauputic> MAPD:  rerun  sudo base-config and choose the "other"04:42
MAPDok04:42
MAPDthank you04:42
MAPDill do it04:42
ekimusi did it :)04:42
ekimusseveral times actually04:43
ekimusoh, damn he's talking about another topic ;)04:43
brennerWarpedShadow: install linux-386/686-smp04:43
brennerWarpedShadow: that should set up a new grub entry for the kernel which you can then boot into.04:43
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LinuxJonesWarpedShadow, search for the smp kernel that best suites your system apt-cache search linux-image | grep smp04:43
wing`anyone there can help me please?04:43
MAPDother thing04:44
wing`i want to install windows xp in the same hd as ubuntu, is there any way doing that?04:44
MAPDi did that and it asked if it was GMT04:44
MAPDand its correct04:44
MAPDnow it asks04:44
MAPDwhere im located04:44
MAPDother european countries time are different from me04:44
LinuxJoneswing`, it's easiest to install XP first then install Linux04:44
ekimusso just answer it! windows asks that kind of stuff too...04:44
MAPDv system whats this?04:44
thoreauputicMAPD: leave everything else as the defaults04:44
fanopnaicwing`: if you want to do it painlessly, first install XP, leave some space for linux, then install linux.04:44
wing`LinuxJones, i know, but theres no options :/04:44
wing`there are no options*04:44
wing`i cant format this linux04:45
WarpedShadowbrenner, LinuxJones: thanks04:45
candlelightwing: you can do eithery way - linux 1st or winxp 1st04:45
wing`so i need to keep it, and install windows04:45
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LinuxJoneswing`, XP doesn't want any other operating system on your machine.04:45
MAPDthoreauputic there arent default04:45
MAPDthere04:45
wing`i know04:45
MAPDon the first part appears Africa04:45
candlelightwing: u mean u want to keep your linux and install window?04:45
wing`candlelight, yes04:45
WarpedShadowis there no 2.6.12 kernel for ubuntu yet?04:45
thoreauputicMAPD: just read it and answer the questions then04:45
wing`i need to play some games, like dungeon siege 2 :P04:45
fanopnaicWarpedShadow: in breezy there is04:46
MAPDthoreauputic the problem is that only UK04:46
candlelightwing: dd if=/dev/hda of=[somewhere]  bs=512 count=104:46
bytefoothis dist-upgrade is taking forever :(04:46
MAPDhas the same time as me04:46
candlelightwing: that's to backup your mbr04:46
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candlelightwing: then install winxp04:46
thoreauputicMAPD: arrow down to see other options04:46
lJlolelmode ce04:46
candlelightwing: then u can choose to edit winxp bootloader to load linxu04:46
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wing`in windows installation?04:46
candlelightwing: or restore the linux bootloader, add winxp to it04:47
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MAPDthoreauputic i chose none of the options04:47
MAPDlol04:47
xerxashi04:47
bytefoois there an rc.conf type file that specifies which daemons get loaded at boot04:48
bytefooi'd like to get rid of some of them to speed up ubuntu04:48
HappyFoolbytefoo: 'man update-rc.d'04:48
xerxasbytefoo: there is something to configure rc.d in gnome in breezy colony-304:49
xerxasdon't know if it's in hoary04:49
thoreauputicMAPD: you only needed to change the answer to the first question - the others should be irrelevant04:49
Tomcat_bytefoo: There are also programs in hoary...04:49
bytefooahh i see04:49
HappyFooloh, maybe breezy has 'bum' ?04:49
HappyFool!bum04:49
uboturumour has it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html04:49
lJlolelhow do i change my default file editor?04:49
lJloleltext04:50
thoreauputicHappyFool: I think gnome 2.12 has it's own boot up manager actually04:50
MAPDmy linux os crazy04:50
bytefooo_O04:50
MAPDis04:50
MAPDi inserted ubuntu cdrom and it says its not ubuntu04:50
MAPD!?04:50
ubotuMAPD: Syntax error in line 104:50
lJlolellol04:51
fanopnaichehehe04:51
xerxassome knows a package of avahi ?04:51
ekimusMAPD: have you set your bios to boot from cd?04:51
xerxasfor breezy04:51
lJlolelMAPD, it says, "I am not Ubuntu"?04:51
ekimuslJlolel: in the terminal?04:52
lJlolelekimus, yea04:52
ekimuslJlolel: export EDITOR=/paht/to/editor04:52
jdubxerxas: ross burton has been working on one for debian and ubuntu, it will probably turn up in universe soon04:52
lJlolelekimus, in bashrc?04:52
ekimuslJlolel: in baschrc EDITOR=.... is enough04:52
lJlolelekimus, thanks!04:53
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MAPDlJlolel yes04:54
MAPDim doing sudo base-config04:54
MAPDit asks for ubuntu cd04:54
MAPDits already in UBuntu 5.0.4 something04:54
lJloleloh04:55
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lJloleli'm not familiar with base-config04:55
xerxasjdub:  thanks (and I read your blogs, it's funny to have an answer from people I read blogs :) )04:55
MAPDweird04:55
MAPDhelp04:55
MAPD:\04:55
ekimusMAPD: so put the cd in...04:55
thoreauputicMAPD: you *do not need* to do the whole config - just escape, and do it again, but only answer the firdt question04:55
thoreauputic*first04:55
xerxassomeone having an i855GM vga with acceleration ?04:56
emilei just installed cups-pdf is there any configuration needed?04:56
thoreauputicMAPD: you only need to change the default time mode04:56
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vladuz976how do i permanently add a diretory to my search path?04:56
HappyFoolvladuz976: in command line (bash) or gui ?04:57
brennerjdub: you related to mark and steve? :)04:57
MAPDi hit cancel04:57
MAPDwhen it asks04:57
MAPDfor04:57
vladuz976HappyFool, anything04:57
MAPDupgrading thing04:57
MAPDekimus i put the cd in04:57
vladuz976HappyFool, bash maybe04:57
MAPDit says its not ubuntu04:57
MAPDbut it is!04:57
xerxasvladuz976: search path for ?04:57
HappyFoolvladuz976: for bash, add    export PATH=/what/ever/path/:$PATH    to ~/.bashrc04:58
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xerxasyou mean binary PATh ?04:58
vladuz976xerath, $PATH04:58
Lodis4What does Ubuntu use for a profile editor?? I am used to FC3 where I had .profile in my home folder.04:58
HappyFoolvladuz976: for gui, i believe you can add it to ~/.gnomerc04:58
vladuz976HappyFool, i don't use gnome04:58
thoreauputicMAPD: for the last time - you only need to answer the first question, then save the change and exit the utility04:58
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vladuz976HappyFool, wehree in .bashrc should i add this04:58
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jdubbrenner: no04:59
HappyFoolvladuz976: i'd put it below the # User specific aliases comment04:59
jdubnor am i related to tim waugh at red hat04:59
MAPDthoreauputic already changed that04:59
MAPDlo04:59
MAPDits working04:59
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ikkyshi05:00
ekimusLodis4: systemwide: /etc/profileper user: .baschrc .bash_profile05:00
ikkysis there a fonts package i can apt-get for ubuntu or linux?05:00
MAPDthank you05:00
MAPDvery much05:00
MAPDill reboot05:00
Chameleon22i dont recall the name, but its like wallpaper type of thing, sits on the desktop and shows weather or what ever... anyone remember the name/url?05:00
MAPDand see if its ok05:00
MAPD:p05:00
ekimusikkys: apt-cache search ^ttf05:00
HappyFoolekimus: i'm not sure that /etc/profile is ever sourced when gui login is used05:01
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MAPDone question, i did reboot and the screen became blue and red stripes05:01
MAPDwhat could be the problem?05:01
vladuz976HappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1689 line 2805:01
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ekimusHappyFool: it is otherwise you wouldn't have a path set05:01
vladuz976HappyFool, does that look ok?05:01
ikkyswhich family does the "verdana/times/helvetica" type font comes from?05:02
HappyFoolekimus: I think PATH etc is set in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*05:02
Lodis4ekimus: thanks!05:02
HappyFoolekimus: i will be most happy to be proved wrong ;)05:02
ekimusvladuz976: look at your ~/.bash_profile there's an example how to add ~/bin to your path in a save way05:02
Lodis4aww man, now there is contention, I just want to edit my $PATH05:03
vladuz976ekimus, ok05:03
MAPDi did control c05:03
xophErWhat is this spam-address Im getting in my queries?05:03
HappyFoolvladuz976: yeah, that's OK; you don't want the trailing / though05:03
MAPDand the time got wrong!05:03
vladuz976HappyFool, ok05:03
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emilei just installed cups-pdf trough synaptic and added a raw queue using printer setup but printing pdf dont work, any clues?05:04
ekimusHappyFool: grep PATH * in that directory shows none of the paths set up that i have in my $PATH05:04
fanopnaicxophEr: read topic05:04
HappyFoolekimus: yeah, i just grep'ed there too05:04
MAPDit changed bios again05:04
MAPD:\05:04
HappyFoolekimus: ok, i'll hack a variable into /etc/profile and see what happens on a second gui login05:04
topyliekimus: gdm sets its default path in gdm.conf, but it seems to also talk about "profile scripts" that will override it05:05
ekimusafaik /etc/profile is in FHS so it _should_ come from that location05:05
ekimusgdm is strange anyway, doesn't read .xsession .xinit .Xdefaults .Xressources by default05:06
MAPDworked finally05:06
MAPD.p05:06
vladuz976ekimus, where inthe bashrc file should i do as in the example from .bash_profile05:06
ikkyswhat does   ttf-kochi-mincho-naga10: Conflicts: ttf-kochi-mincho05:06
ikkysE: Broken packages05:06
ikkys means?05:06
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ekimusvladuz976: just add it to .bash_profile the same way the bin path is added (the if makes your .bash_profile portable, since you won't get errors if the path doesn't exist)05:07
ekimusikkys: those packages conflict, install either one or the other (just like the message says)05:07
OdiiiNtheres any way to restart the notification area of gnome after a gnome-panel crash without restarting X's?05:07
ikkysuhm, so to remove, is it apt-get remove <package>?05:08
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vladuz976bash: /home/vladuz976/.bashrc: line 28: syntax error near unexpected token `('05:08
vladuz976bash: /home/vladuz976/.bashrc: line 28: ` make less more friendly for non-text input files, see lesspipe(1)'05:08
vladuz976vladuz976@box:~$05:08
vladuz976ekimus, now i am getting this05:08
thoreauputicvladuz976: you need to comment the line with #05:09
ekimusvladuz976: pls paste your .bash_profile somewhere (you probably uncommented a line that should have a comment)05:09
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vladuz976ekimus, thoreauputic yeah just commented line 28 out and it works now05:09
HappyFoolekimus: fwiw, i added 'export FOOBARBAZ=23' to /etc/profile (just below export PATH), did a second GDM login and that variable is not set in a terminal.05:10
ekimusHappyFool: your gnome-terminal is set to be a login term?05:11
topyliobviously the value must be set below 20 in order to work :)05:11
HappyFoolekimus: nope05:11
nickrudHappyFool, ekimus, put any environment stuff you want preloaded for gnome in .gnomerc05:11
HappyFoolekimus: well, i don't think so; the point is that variable is not set in the GUI enviroment05:11
ekimusHappyFool: because here it works05:11
HappyFoolekimus: hmm05:11
ekimusnickrud: i know how to put that stuff, but since i don't use gnome .gnomerc will be of little use :)05:12
vladuz976http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169205:12
HappyFoolekimus: maybe your wm sources /etc/profile ?05:12
vladuz976ekimus, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169205:12
ekimusHappyFool: you (of course) need to have a login shell for it to source /etc/profile05:12
nickrudah, gdm implied gnome to me, sorry05:13
ekimusvladuz976: looks ok05:13
ekimusHappyFool: definitely not05:13
HappyFoolekimus: what about GUI apps not started from a shell?05:13
ikkys"apt-get remove <packagename>" is this how to remove a package???05:13
vladuz976ekimus, need to log out huh?05:13
ekimusHappyFool: don't know but it works too if i login from a console, so this definitely _is_ set there05:13
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HappyFoolekimus: yes, login shells do source /etc/profile, i don't dispute that05:14
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ekimusvladuz976: probably relogin is the easiest way to add it to your env shell05:14
thoreauputicikkys: yes, that removes the package but not the config files05:14
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ekimusHappyFool: non-login shell stuff should be set in the corresponding shell config files anyways05:14
candlelightsource /etc/profile05:15
HappyFoolekimus: my claim is simply that gdm does *not* look at /etc/profile, and that setting system wide variables is a pain because of that05:15
ekimusHappyFool: how often do you start a gui app while not being logged in?05:15
bytefooare breezy-extras on the same repository as hoary extras05:15
HappyFoolekimus: i login via gdm -- you could consider the whole of gnome as a 'login shell'05:15
MAPDis there any05:15
MAPDgraphic dvd burner05:15
MAPDsoftware?05:15
ekimusHappyFool: that's want i wanted to tell you. you have to have an initial login shell (or something alike)05:16
ekimusMAPD: k3b05:16
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MAPDok thanks05:16
thoreauputicMAPD: please, put things on one line and stop using the enter key as punctuation05:16
ekimusMAPD: and please don't hit enter that often05:16
MAPDok sorry!05:16
ikkysthoreauputic, so how do i remove all things related?05:16
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thoreauputicikkys: you mean dependencies or config?05:17
thoreauputicekimus: heheh - fool never differ ;-)05:17
topyliikkys: use --purge to remove the config files05:17
MAPDshould i update to breezy?05:17
ekimusMAPD: NO!05:17
thoreauputicekimus: or great minds think alike - take your pick :)05:17
ekimusMAPD: breezy is not stable05:17
HappyFoolheh05:17
ikkysapt-get remove --purge <package>?05:18
topyliyes05:18
ekimusthoreauputic: i'll thake the latter :)05:18
thoreauputicekimus: OK :)05:18
bytefooi upgraded to breezy :X05:18
bytefooi get some wierd screen on boot :X05:18
MAPD?? pastebin05:18
Fadeis anybody else having trouble with the locales package?05:18
ikkystopyli, is that yes for me?05:18
bytefoolike some strange gensplash or bootsplash that's misconfigured05:18
topyliikkys: yep05:18
Fadeabove and beyond this behaviour where it builds every locale on earth, and then fails on sr. ;)05:19
ikkysok thanks05:19
ekimusMAPD: google pastebin 1. link05:19
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MAPD1.?05:19
ekimusMAPD: 1st05:19
ekimusisn't 1. for first quite international?05:20
MAPDnope05:20
MAPD.P05:20
thoreauputicMAPD: you might find it easier to /join #ubuntu-pt05:20
topyliekimus: not at all05:20
MAPDekimus see i wasnt expecting you to answer me that i was looking for something else LOL05:20
ikkysThe following packages will be REMOVED:05:20
ikkys  ttf-kochi-gothic* ubuntu-desktop*05:20
ikkys, does this means the ubuntu-desktop is going to be deleted too?05:20
thoreauputicikkys: no, it's a meta-package05:21
ekimustopyli: so in lists other people don't write "1. .. 2. ..... 3."?05:21
thoreauputicikkys: it won't remove anything else05:21
topyliikkys: yes, but it contains nothing but dependencies05:21
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vladuz976ekimus, that didn't work, path still doesn't include the new dir05:21
topyliekimus: lists? it depends on the language05:22
ekimusikkys: no, that just means that ttf-kochi-gothic is in the dependencies of the meta package ubuntu-desktop (ubuntu-desktop just consists of dependencies)05:22
ekimusekimus: spoken language :)05:22
ekimusdamn05:22
ekimustopyli: spoken language05:22
Hoxzerfreeemeeee riiightt nooooow youu takeee me awayyyy05:22
ikkysekimus, so its ok to do this apt-get remove --purge ttf-kochi-gothic?05:22
ekimusikkys: yes05:22
ekimusikkys: try apt-get remove gedit --simulate before05:23
ekimusikkys: you will see that this also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop (because it is part of ubuntu-desktop)05:23
MAPDekimus see i was trying to find ubuntu pastebin so i didnt expect the 1. maybe you were telling how to make a pastebin like 1.x some version05:23
topyliekimus: writing 1. is probably a german habit, adapted by many other languages but not english for example05:23
MAPDekimus its correct using 1. i use it many times :)05:25
ekimus*lol* bash.org nice everytime you read it again05:25
nickrudikkys, the primary problem with removing ubuntu-desktop meta-package is when you upgrade to breezy after it's released.05:25
brennernickrud: so what's the fix for that?  just reinstall it?05:25
nickrudikkys, you won't automatically get any of the new packages that are part of the desktop.05:25
nickrudbrenner, yes05:26
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ikkysuhm, well i tried that command and it was successful but now when i do "apt-get install ^ttf" it display the same type of font in the list that have depedencies problems05:26
ikkyslike it wasnt deleted05:26
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emilei solved cups-pdf problem05:26
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brenneremile: nice...what was the fix?05:27
ikkyshelp05:27
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ikkyscan anyone determine wats my issue, let me paste to pastebin.com05:27
nickrudikkys, what kind of dependency issues?05:27
ikkysThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:28
ikkys  ttf-kochi-gothic: Conflicts: ttf-kochi-gothic-naga1005:28
ikkys  ttf-kochi-gothic-naga10: Conflicts: ttf-kochi-gothic05:28
ikkys  ttf-kochi-mincho: Conflicts: ttf-kochi-mincho-naga1005:28
ikkys  ttf-kochi-mincho-naga10: Conflicts: ttf-kochi-mincho05:28
ikkysE: Broken packages05:28
emilebrenner: set RunAsUser No in cupsd.conf and /etc/init.d/cupsd restart05:28
brennerikkys: don't paste05:28
ikkyssorry05:28
nickrudikkys, post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin05:29
emilei configured a raw device printer for it05:29
emilenow pdf is in my homedir under ~/cups-pdf05:29
MAPDbye thx05:30
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ikkysnickrud, here it is, http://pastebin.com/34847205:32
ikkysbasicly i want to do "apt-get install ^ttf" which is all types of font, but i got 4 dependecies issue. anyone might know the probs?05:33
Gnonthgolikkys: It looks like a standars sources.list for hoary05:33
ikkysGnonthgol, is there a better version?05:34
Gnonthgolikkys: No05:34
brennerikkys: you apt-get updated lately?05:34
ikkysyes, like 6 hours ago05:34
nickrudikkys, yes, some packages cannot be installed at the same time, and you've run into one of those conflicts.05:35
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moogmanHey all. I have an ext3 partition of 10GB and 10GB of free space before it (dont ask!), it's not a LVM drive, so how would I go about "expanding" the partition to fill the whole drive?05:35
nickrudin other words, you cannot have all ttf packages, only the ones that don't conflict with each other.05:35
nickrudso, apt-get install ^ttf will fail.05:35
AzMooHi there, I'm trying to compile eet, for dr17, but it's complaining that I don't have a suitable compiler. I've installed gcc 3.3, but it doesn't find it. Anyone know why?05:36
ikkysooh, so is there a way to apt-get install ^ttf -minus-package1 -minus-package2? cuz i wanna get them all05:36
brennerAzMoo: try installing build-essential05:36
nickrudikkys, what usually do when I'm loading up fonts is use aptitude interactively, and use the key command /^ttf05:37
ikkysuhm, dont quite get u, hows that?05:38
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nickrudthen, pressing \ will cycle thru all the ttf packages05:38
nickrudikkys, just sudo aptitude05:38
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ikkysu saying type "aptitute" in root?05:38
nickrudyes05:38
AzMoobrenner, that did it, thanks :)05:38
brennermoogman: sounds like you need to do a resze05:38
brenner*resize05:39
funkyHatcan i make screen _not_ invoke my default shell?05:39
brennerAzMoo: np05:39
funkyHati want to run screen as my shell05:39
ikkysnickrud, command not found05:39
Gnonthgolikkys: apt-get install aptitude05:40
nickrudikkys, sorry, typo again, it's aptitude05:40
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ikkysGnonthgol, nickrud, yes now im in the aptitude screen. so what should i do? i cant find font anywhere though05:42
nickrudikkys, press the '/' key, that will pop up a search window05:43
ompaul!winext2 is http://www.fs-driver.org/05:43
ubotuokay, ompaul05:43
Gnonthgol!winext205:43
ubotuwinext2 is probably http://www.fs-driver.org/05:43
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ikkysso what should this aptitude help me in this situation? i tried searching for ^ttf and hitting the key "g" and it returns, no update is available some sort like that05:46
moogmanbrenner: Ok, um... Could you expand a bit more on how I could go about doing it?05:47
nickrudselect the package you want, and press the + key to mark for installation.05:47
brennermoogman: well, i'm not sure how to go about it if an OS is already installed on that partition, but you should be able to resize it using something like qtparted05:48
Fanskapethmm anyone know what todo if you got two "trash" folders in your imapd ? :)05:48
Fanskapetguess squirrelwebmail did this05:48
brennermoogman: needless to say, it's a risky operation, i'd backup 1st05:48
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CameroonLoserAnybody knows a good web editor for ubuntu? Is DreamWeaver possible?05:49
vader1102I was using Kate05:50
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CameroonLoser!Kate05:50
ubotuCameroonLoser: Not a clue05:50
vader1102and there are others05:50
VarangerI have some ttf (TrueTrype) that I want to install in Ubuntu... how can I do that ?05:50
ompaul!kate05:50
ubotuompaul: No idea05:50
spayneCaneroonLoser: nvu05:50
vader1102or there is scram05:50
nickrudVaranger, put them in  a directory named ~/.fonts05:50
vader1102scream05:51
brenner!fonts05:51
ubotufonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto05:51
liquidfireanybody using azureus in herE ?05:51
VarangerYou, people, rule!05:51
brennerisn't Kate just a text editor?05:51
moogmanbrenner: Yeah, tried qtparted and it wont let me do any operations on a partition that isn't in an extended partition, it seems05:51
ompaul!kate05:51
ubotuI heard kate is an editor that has a fanbase, if that is good or bad is another days work05:51
CameroonLoserspayne: what's nvu05:51
CameroonLoser!nvu05:51
ubotunvu is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.05:51
spaynehttp://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.nvu.com/&ei=l90RQ5-XNb-kRailqOIK05:51
CameroonLoserok05:52
Gnonthgol!spreadubuntu05:53
ubotuGnonthgol: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:53
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Gnonthgol!spreadubuntu is http://www.spreadubuntu.org/05:54
ubotuGnonthgol: okay05:54
elmagohi all i have a problem with my printer05:54
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elmagosomebody there who can help me?05:54
Gnonthgolelmago: http://localhost:631/05:54
elmagoi get this error in my error log05:54
elmago[Job 20]  Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20COLOR%20680": No such device05:55
elmagowhat do i have to do?05:55
elmagohello can somebody help me?05:56
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vader1102elmago; I have no clue05:56
Kromonoshi guys05:56
elmagohmm05:56
Kromonoshow can I use Video In/Out from my laptop with ubuntu?05:56
VarangerI have added the ttf file to %HOME%/.fonts and run xlsfonts... and NO GOOD !!05:56
vader1102have you tried google elmlago?05:56
vader1102elmago05:56
elmagoi think there is something wrong with my usb device but i dont kown what05:57
HrdwrBoBKromonos: you may or may not be able to05:57
elmagoyes05:57
HrdwrBoBKromonos: what laptop, what video specifically05:57
Gnonthgolelmago: are you shure that it is the right device, try #cat <device>05:57
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Gnonthgolelmago: try hal and see what you can find05:58
KromonosHrdwrBoB: Its a Gericom Laptop with an Intel Brookdale Graphics adapter05:58
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VarangerI have added the ttf file to %HOME%/.fonts and run xlsfonts... and NO GOOD !!05:59
thoreauputic!seen Seveaz05:59
Xatuthoreauputic, Seveaz is right here!05:59
ubotuseveaz is currently on #ubuntu (1h 56m)05:59
thoreauputicok05:59
elmagohal?05:59
elmagowhats that?05:59
nickrudVaranger, try looking for the ttf file in fonts:/// in the file manager05:59
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__filip_i have setup an ftp server whit proftpd, i get help whit this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611 but what is the password in this guid?06:00
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sorush20is there a fit to one page option in Ubuntu open office..06:00
blurI need help with an Ubuntu install06:00
Gnonthgolelmago: System > administration > device manager06:00
blurI get the error "error loading operating system" on boot06:00
pres589Should there be any problems installing Ubuntu on a system using a Promise TX2 Ultra PCI IDE controller for a hard disk interface?06:00
nickrudsorush20, yes, for spreadsheets at least.06:00
thoreauputicSeveaz: I don't know the sory, but dazjorz is asking to be unbanned or +q ed (as I said , I don't know the story)06:00
HrdwrBoBKromonos: and you want the external vga to work>?06:00
Jatos hi06:00
sorush20nickrud: can it be for word too...06:01
brennerblur: need more info ... does it give you anything more in the error?06:01
KromonosYes, just for try :)06:01
sorush20hi06:01
blurno just "error loading operating system", so I guess the BIOS can't even find what to boot off of06:01
liquidfireDoes anybody know a bittorent client which doesn't use java but has trackerless  and multi tracker support + upnp and is very stable/fast ?06:02
pres589The install process keeps hanging up at 82% of hardware detection, where it says it's "Loading module 'ide-disk' for 'Linux ATA Module'"06:02
blurI have 1 IDE drive, prim master, and 1 SATA drive w/ 2 partitions.  win xp is on the first partition, ubuntu on the second06:02
Gnonthgolliquidfire: Why, what is wrong with Azureuz?06:02
liquidfirethe huge memory usage ;)06:02
liquidfirelol its currently using 1.5 gb06:03
Varangernickrud: The ttf are not there....06:03
HrdwrBoBKromonos: your best bet is google06:03
Kromonoshmm06:03
liquidfireof swap and hardware memory06:03
Kromonosok, I try. thx HrdwrBoB06:03
HrdwrBoBsee if people with the same or similar laptops have it working06:03
HrdwrBoBno prolbme06:03
__filip_does some one know about this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611 ?06:03
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brennerblur: can you boot into xp?06:04
nickrudVaranger, open a file manager window where you have the fonts. You should see a thumbnail of each font. If you do, just drag & drop into fonts:///06:04
jubileehi to all06:04
fanopnaicliquidfire: I doubt that such a thing exists.06:04
jubileei have a question06:04
jubileerigh now i have mepis on my machine but i want to try ubuntu06:04
blurno brenner, I get this error right away.  no boot menu or anything06:04
elmagoi m there what now?06:05
blurall I can do is boot to this live cd06:05
jubileei have 3 partition root-10g, swap 512mb and home 25g06:05
HrdwrBoBazureus uses memory something shocking, but it is good06:05
Gnonthgolblur: start from ubuntu install cd and type expert at the boot06:05
Varangernickrud: Should I do this as root ??06:05
brennerblur: so you don't even get to grub?06:05
nickrudVaranger, no, as yourself06:05
blurnope, no grub06:05
moogmanliquidfire: Trackerless support is specific to Azureus IIRC, as they made their own implementation before the "official" BT trackerless protocol was created06:05
Kromonosanother questen: I've installed mplayer and I can't start listening to a stream until I turn off GNome sounds. How can I change this?06:05
funkyHathmm.... if i want to use bmp to play audio CDs, how can set up removable drives and media preferences to make it automatically play?06:05
Gnonthgolblur: then install grub06:05
liquidfirek moogman06:05
blurgnonthgol: and then what?  unfortunately i'm talking from the pc i'm trying to fix, so i'm going to have to get all the directions, get off irc, and go try it06:05
liquidfirewell i know enough then06:05
jubileeif i want to install ubuntu, the installer will choose for the home directory my partition or i must set it in fstab?06:05
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liquidfirei shall endure the high memory from azureu06:06
liquidfires06:06
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moogmanliquidfire: Best bet is to look at the Azureus FAQ to try and reduce the memory usage and CPU load06:06
blurwhere do i install grub to06:06
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blurI don't want to lose my winxp partition06:06
Varangernickrud: I drag & drop the files but they are not added in fonts:///06:06
Jatosdev/hda or whichver parition is NOT using ntfs06:06
brenner!grub06:07
ubotufrom memory, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows06:07
Gnonthgolblur: I think grub is going to install just to the mbr06:07
Kromonosand totem player don't starts :( Just error message: "Totem could not startup. Could not get/set settings from/on resource." :(06:07
brennerblur: my guess would be to try the second link ubotu spat out06:07
funkyHatblur, did you by any chance change the boot flag to your linux / partition when you installed ubuntu?06:07
bluryes06:07
blurto ON06:07
funkyHatblur, try this:06:08
funkyHatrun the installer again, do everything exactly the same, but change the boot flag back to your winXP partition06:08
Gnonthgoljubilee: In The debian installer you can edit fstab in the partisoning manager06:08
Paradoxxliquidfire: can you help me please?...trying to get azureus installed06:08
Paradoxxand i'm not getting very far06:08
blurhmm, but then it will just boot to winxp right?06:08
funkyHatno06:08
liquidfireParadoxx,06:09
liquidfiresure06:09
liquidfirewhats up :o06:09
blurinteresting...06:09
Paradoxxwell, i apt-geted  and it dosen't work06:09
Paradoxx>.<06:09
funkyHatthe boot sector will still point to /boot/grub on your linux partition (that's my understanding anyway, may not be techincally correct, but that's how it works)06:09
liquidfirecompile it yourself06:09
liquidfiretheres an howto on the site06:09
liquidfire:)06:09
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blurokay funkyhat, i will try that and Gnonthgol's suggestion06:09
funkyHatdon't try them both at once ;)06:10
blurof course not :)06:10
blurthanks for the help!06:10
GnonthgolParadoxx: you are missing an archive in sources.list06:10
Fanskapetah well.. solved it06:10
Paradoxxliquidfire: how?06:11
Paradoxxgnothgol how do i get it?06:11
Gnonthgol!azureuz06:11
ubotuI don't know, Gnonthgol06:11
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Fanskapethmm thunderbird does not check the subfolders for new mail just the main inbox.. anyone know if this is the mail-clients fault or the imap-server?06:12
Fanskapet(have rules sending new mails with special subjects in other folders than the main inbox)06:12
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Fanskapetplacing new mails even.06:12
CameroonLoserIs there a way to de-block people with gaim? xP06:12
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funkyHatclick the block button again?06:12
hatake_kakashiCameroonLoser, as in unignore?06:13
CameroonLosernope06:13
CameroonLoser:P06:13
CameroonLoseryea06:13
CoyctecmHow to change mouse theme/cursor theme which is displayed in the login screen?06:13
CameroonLoserfunkyHat: nope doesn't work06:13
CameroonLoserhatake_kakashi: yea06:13
funkyHatheh, someone asked me about that yesterday too :(06:13
CameroonLoserlol06:13
CameroonLoserIt's pretty stupid.06:13
CameroonLoserI blocked my whole list. xD06:13
funkyHatohhhhhh fun06:13
cemchi06:14
cemci'm trying to connect to a running X server from another computer06:14
moogmanCameroonLoser: Yes06:15
cemcon the server side i just installed breezy06:15
cemcgdm is running,06:15
CameroonLosermoogman: Can you please tell me the way?06:15
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cemcin gdm.conf i enabled xdmcp06:15
moogmanCameroonLoser: Open the privacy list. Select "block only the users below", and remove the users you want to "unblock"06:15
moogmanAdmittedly it's a bit of a screwy way. This is being worked on in the next version of Gaim though, I do believe :)06:16
CameroonLosermoogman, thanks.06:16
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Coyctecmanyone?06:16
Gnonthgol!azureuz is http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#azureus06:16
ubotuGnonthgol: okay06:16
CameroonLoserShit I hit erase. Now everybody's unblocked xD06:17
CameroonLoserisn't azureuz spelled azureus?06:17
CameroonLoser!azureus06:17
ubotuI guess azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository06:17
CameroonLoser.06:17
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Gnonthgolok??06:18
bur[n] eranyone know how to get rhythmbox working again in Breezy?06:18
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bur[n] erit works on my laptop, but not desktop for some reason06:18
Belutzhelp.... my eth1 stop working... what should i do??06:19
brennerbur[n] er: define 'not works'06:19
bluefoxicybluefox@icebox:~$ sudo modprobe via82cxxx06:19
bluefoxicybluefox@icebox:~$ sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc06:19
bluefoxicy using_dma    =  1 (on)06:19
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bluefoxicyaight06:19
bluefoxicyquestion.06:19
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brenner'doesn't work' even06:19
bluefoxicyWHY THE FUCK doesn't this detect my IDE controller and load the module automatically?06:19
bluefoxicyit wasn't loaded, so I couldn't activate DMA06:19
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bluefoxicyalthough 32 bit IO makes burning a CD fast and easy06:20
bluefoxicyjust like DMA06:20
fakedbluefoxicy: why the fuck don't you write the name of the driver in /etc/modules? ;)06:20
bur[n] erbrenner: it closes right away with a "restart application, close, inform developers" dialog... and no console output whatsoever06:20
bluefoxicyfaked:  New users aren't going to know that.06:20
bur[n] erbrenner: i don't even see the screen or the systray icon... i've deleted ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox as well06:20
fakedbluefoxicy: np06:21
bluefoxicyfaked:  as much as I can write some stuff in my kernel :P06:21
bur[n] erbrenner: i did dpkg-reconfigure rhythmbox too, but that doesn't help either06:21
bluefoxicyfaked:  I don't do this for myself; I can handle it myself ;)06:21
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bur[n] eri have basically no error messages to work off of, but my sound works... bmp plays fine, as does totem06:21
fakedbluefoxicy: fine06:21
brennerbur[n] er: well, running breezy might be the problem...what file you trying to play?06:22
bluefoxicyand can somebody please alias bugs.ubuntu.com to bugzilla.ubuntu.com :p06:22
bur[n] erbrenner: no files.... just want to load rhythmbox06:22
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brennersorry, dunno06:23
bur[n] ereh, it's ok... i'll figure it out eventually... i konw it works in breezy as it works on my other PC, just some dpkg-reconfigure I gotta do on something I'm sure06:23
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kbreitHow can I get Ubuntu to re-read /etc/exports06:25
WarpedShadowGnome seems to be freezing after sign-in after I changed the kernel to 2.6.11 -smp06:25
WarpedShadowany ideas?06:25
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thoreauputickbreit: sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart  should do it I think06:26
ompaulWarpedShadow, breezy?06:26
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XyFeXfinally06:26
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XyFeXcrazy irc06:26
XyFeXanyways06:27
WarpedShadowompaul: Horary06:27
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deFryskCoyctecm, edit /etc/alternatives/x-cursor-theme06:27
deFrysk and set it to the theme you like, make sure you have installed the cursor-themes06:27
auTONYmouscan someone tell me quickly how to install a local .deb package I downloaded (nerolinux)06:27
blurso I set the winxp partition to boot06:27
blurand it just booted to winxp06:27
WarpedShadowfull system hang it seems...06:27
XyFeXi got an old imac ppc and i just burned an install cd but it wont recongnise/boot it...06:27
jkossenauTONYmous: dpkg -i packagename.deb06:27
blurso that didn't work06:27
ompaulhmm06:27
XyFeXdo i need a boot loader or somethin06:27
auTONYmousjkossen: thanks06:27
XyFeXcoz debian worked fine06:28
Coyctecmok I'll try06:28
XyFeXanyone would know why this is happening?06:28
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cemcanybody?06:29
thoreauputickbreit: I take it your silence means it worked?06:29
thingfishHi.  Using 5.04, not getting audio because my speakers are digital.  I need to be able to set the mixer to use Digital Audio Out, but that option is not available anywhere that I can see.  How do I do this?06:29
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XyFeXis there a reason why my install cd wont boot?06:29
ompaulWarpedShadow, only one question arises in my mind, have you also installed the  modules ?06:30
thoreauputicXyFeX: bad ISO file? bad burn? who can say?06:30
WarpedShadowompaul: "modules"?06:30
brennerthingfish: you get no sound at all?06:30
thingfishbrenner: no06:30
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AzMooHow do I add a new window manager to the gdm sessions?06:31
=== xester hi all
blurSo um, now that I have winxp and ubuntu both installed, how do I get a boot loader? should I do what Gnonthgol said and install GRUB through the EXPERT part of the installer?06:31
thingfishbrenner: if I were to switch my cables to the analog out, I would get sound fine.06:31
bluefoxicyshould I enter a bug "sound juicer is slow as shit," or does someone have a better summary?06:31
brennerthingfish: 1st i'd look at this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/ to see if there's anything there about digital audio....if not, search the forum for threads *shrug*06:31
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bluefoxicyI have 32 bit IO, unmask interrupt, and DMA enabled on a 52x CD drive and Sound Juicer barely rips at 3x06:32
auTONYmousI wish Nerolinux supported GTK...06:32
WarpedShadowompaul: oh right, those modules. :) Well checking "Installed Files" it seems so06:32
brennerblur: you reinstalled and still no luck?06:32
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: try turning "paranoia" off ( windows rippers don't do error checking AFAIK which is one reason they are fast)06:32
bluefoxicythoreauputic:  I used cdparanoia and abcde to rip CDs before and it was faster.06:32
Akbarcan I upgrade from hoary to breezy with dist upgrade?06:32
thoreauputicbluefoxicy: OK06:32
XyFeXweird... i burned at 2x06:33
bluri reinstalled, set the winxp partition's boot flag to ON, and now it boots into winxp instead of giving me the "error loading operating system" error06:33
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brennerAkbar: yes06:33
wifigeekhey06:33
thingfishok, brenner, thanks anyway.06:33
wifigeekwhats the default root pass in ubuntu?06:33
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AkbarI have been running debian unstable before.. so running unstable is not a prob06:33
brenner!root06:33
ubotusomebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:33
XyFeXso even on old macs there shouldent be a boot problem?06:33
bluefoxicythoreauputic: this takes like 20 minutes, it used to take me half that.  Still only 5-6x but that's better than 306:33
brennerwifigeek: when it asks for a password, it's *your* password it wants06:33
wifigeekk06:33
brennerwifigeek: read more at that wiki page06:33
ompaulWarpedShadow, sorry I was torrenting three different CDs and I could not find a web solution as all upstream was being sucked away :) okay you have 'those module' seems we need a wiki page on upgrading a kernel correctly06:34
XyFeXugh im too impatient to wait for my cds in the mail ...06:34
brennerXyFeX: someone was asking why they couldn't boot on an old mac as well ... i didn't stick around to find out the fix though06:34
blurbrenner: should I do this => http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation06:34
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blur(from the live cd)06:34
XyFeXoh06:34
bluefoxicyhey06:35
brennerblur: i'd use the wiki page instead as it probably explains it more06:35
bluefoxicywhy does grub-install not work on xfs anyway06:35
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bluefoxicyI mean06:35
WarpedShadowompaul: the process I did was using Synaptic, pick kernel. download, reboot?06:35
moomooboyhey everyone06:35
bluefoxicyit freezes for me on hoary and breezy installs still06:35
brennerXyFeX: search the forum maybe06:35
WarpedShadowwhere I go wrong?06:35
bluefoxicyit NEVER works even when run manually.06:35
bluefoxicywhat I do06:35
bluefoxicyI run 'grub'06:35
shinuis it only me or is the kernel 2.6.11-1 unstable?06:35
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bluefoxicyroot (hd0,5)06:35
bluefoxicysetup (hd0)06:35
moomooboyhey guy can someone tell me...06:35
bluefoxicyquit06:35
bluefoxicyand boom.06:35
XyFeXbut... that doesent make much sense... i read a tutorial on installing debian on the ppc imac g3 n they recommended installing ubuntu06:35
moomooboywhat programs i could download... " to make my desktop look very cool "06:35
WarpedShadowshinu: well, I just installed it, and can't get gnome to laod preroply06:36
thoreauputicshinu: it's highly unstable06:36
wifigeekanyone know how i start the ubuntu config software?06:36
XyFeXso im guessing there shouldent be a problem06:36
ompaulWarpedShadow, looks okay06:36
shinusee06:36
Dr_Melectausthoreauputic, You about mate?06:36
shinuhow stupid i am06:36
bluefoxicyso grub works, but a shell script doesn't.06:36
XyFeXyea im gonna go do a little search06:36
brennerXyFeX: dunno...just telling you you aren't alone i guess06:36
shinuit kept hanging up my comp for no reason...06:36
thoreauputicDr_Melectaus: erm yes...06:36
moomooboyanyone??06:36
XyFeXbrenner : thx anywyas06:36
shinuthoreauputic and WarpedShadow: thanks06:36
Dr_MelectausCool, thor. You familiar with torsmo ?06:36
XyFeXpeace06:36
thingfishbrenner: I had to download gnome-alsamixer from debian unstable to get the digital/analog out option.06:36
Dr_MelectausCool, thoreauputic ** You familiar with torsmo ?06:37
ompaulmoomooboy, whateverones you think look cool - usually it is a matter of personal taste06:37
brennermoomooboy: just google for gnome desktops.  they usually tell you what stuff they installed06:37
WarpedShadowompaul: any suggestions... fall back to another version...06:37
moomooboythanks ^^06:37
thoreauputicDr_Melectaus: nope, sorry :(06:37
brennerthingfish: so you got it working?06:37
Dr_MelectausOk then thoreauputic  cheers06:37
bluri can't find it brenner, which wiki?06:37
brenner!grub06:37
moomooboyi thought i was able to download it thru synaptic06:37
uboturumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows06:37
ompaulWarpedShadow, well it is where I would go for a moment - let me look at that for a sec06:37
brennerblur: 2nd one there06:37
WarpedShadowta06:38
blurty06:38
auTONYmousGRRR...my SD card slot stopped workin06:38
auTONYmous1st bootup, it worked...now, it doesn't06:38
thingfishbrenner: yes06:38
brennerthingfish: may i ask where you found the fix? :)06:39
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thingfishbrenner: I saw in one of the forum postings that another person used gnome-alsamixer.06:40
blurlet's say I mess this up: what is the easiest way to get back into windows?06:40
bluri.e. reset the mbr06:40
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brennerthingfish: cool.06:40
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AzMooMan, E17 is sexxxxy06:40
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thingfishmisfit_toy: you watching?06:42
seliniumSeveaz: is that you Seveas?06:42
brennerthe 'z' means his sleeping.06:43
brennerhe's even06:43
seliniumOh, ok :)06:43
brennerat least, it's meant to. :)06:43
seliniumWondering what the f*** was going on when I auto logged in!06:43
thoreauputicbrenner: seveaZzzz ould be clearer ;)06:44
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thoreauputic*would06:44
Gnonthgolblur: try the windows install cd, it can reset the mbr06:44
seliniumhi thoreauputic06:44
brennerthoreauputic: saves typing 2 letters though i guess :)06:44
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thoreauputicselinium: hi06:44
brennerGnonthgol: it can?06:45
thoreauputicbrenner: heh - in the grand tradition of nix commands like "dd" and "w" ;-)06:45
dalamarboot to prompt with win install cd and run 'fdisk /mbr'06:45
Gnonthgolbrenner: shure, for corrupted mbr06:45
dv_AzMoo, does it run stable on ubuntu?06:45
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brenner:)06:46
AzMoodv_, It's running beautifully at the moment06:46
dv_it has a problem with ghost xterm windows06:46
brenneri've shortened it to one l. :D06:46
dv_that is, xterm quits, but the window is still there06:46
thoreauputicdalamar: for XP I think it's " fixmbr"  or something now06:46
dv_I dont know if they fixed that bug yet06:46
AzMoodv_, xchat doesn't like transparency, either.06:46
dalamarah06:46
AzMoodv_, is it only xterm?06:46
dalamarnever ran xp06:46
brennerGnonthgol: ah, never tinkled with XP's "expert mode"06:47
seliniumRight then, I am trying to make a folder accessable by all /usr/share/zsnesRoms. I seem to be able to use the roms but the other users can see them but not use them. I know this is probably a security issue. But I still dont understand *nix style users:groups. Any help gratefully received! :)06:47
dv_AzMoo, it is only known with xterm06:47
AzMoodv_, well, I'm using Eterm, so it shouldn't be a problem :)06:47
dalamarive never had probs with transparency in xchat06:47
Gnonthgolbrenner: mine either, I just red the grub faq06:47
Gnonthgol*read06:48
thoreauputicselinium: are the other users in the group that owns that directory?06:48
thoreauputicselinium: what does ls -ld /usr/share/zsnesRoms  say?06:48
brennerselinium: totally unrelated to your question, but does zsnes seem to run slowly for you?  i think it's 'cos it's forcing 16 bit mode on my machine....i take a bit of a performance hit06:48
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ompaulthoreauputic, pm?06:49
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thoreauputicompaul: OK06:49
dalamari find snes9x runs alot better than zsnes on my machine06:49
seliniumbrenner: It doesn't run slowly for me, and I have an Athlon 90006:49
dv_AzMoo, some stuff is still missing though06:49
dv_like, some sort of taskbar06:49
brennerselinium: running it in console, do you get 16-bit force messages?06:49
dv_or an OSX-style bar showing the programs currently running06:50
brenner*terminal even06:50
seliniumbrenner: nope.06:50
dv_or does this exist already?06:50
AzMoodv_, yeah, you're right there. But it just looks absolutely beautiful.06:50
brennerweird06:50
seliniumbrenner: indeed :)06:50
dv_indeed06:50
brennerdalamar: i'm puzzled as to which package to install for snes9x. :)06:50
dv_I absolutely love the gold/grey style06:50
selinium thoreauputic:  drwxr-xr-x  2 root root06:50
dv_e17 is eye candy done right06:50
dv_since its amazingly fast06:51
AzMooThe clock and battery widgets in the corner are nice, and the animated app bar ...06:51
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brenneropengl binaries, x binaries, gtk frontend, gnome frontend? :D06:51
dalamarbrenner, just the core and the frontend (snes9xpress), can also install the GL package but its not needed and pretty much useless06:51
thoreauputicselinium: hmm well that would be readable and executable by all06:51
brennerdalamar: that clears things up a bit. thanks06:51
thoreauputicor rather, accessible to all06:51
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selinium thoreauputic:  that is what I thought. But the roms run fine from my account but not from my daughters....  Aaaargh!06:52
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thoreauputicompaul: you dissing my Pizza Timer ? *grin*06:52
brennerselinium: OT: what are you playing? :)06:52
Gnonthgolhow to stop spam?06:52
ompaulthoreauputic, not dissing it abusing it :)06:52
ompaulGnonthgol, in irc?06:52
seliniumbrenner: Zelda 306:52
thoreauputicompaul: why ?06:52
Gnonthgolja06:52
ompaul /umode +CE06:53
ompaulthoreauputic, its not a pizza I just want to do something in 10 mins -06:53
brennerselinium: i never got into that game. :-/06:53
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ompaul:)06:53
dalamarfinally got my ipod shuffle and gtkpod working, im psyched!06:53
Gnonthgolompaul: bin there done that06:53
selinium thoreauputic:  Sorry, the files inside the folder are not inthe right settings. time to chmod -r  :)06:53
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ompaulGnonthgol, are you saying it is not working>?06:54
thoreauputicompaul: oh well -  sleep 10m && dosomething ;_06:54
chrismurfCan someone point me at the Hoary full package list?06:54
seliniumbrenner: I used to play it when  it first came out... think i lost a girlfriend over it  lol06:54
ompaulthoreauputic, no echo Get off yer ***** :) will pop up06:54
brennerchrismurf: packages.ubuntu.org06:54
Gnonthgolompaul: yes, I am saying its not working06:54
thoreauputicompaul: hahah06:54
brenneror .com ... can't remember06:54
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chrismurfbrenner, tnx much06:55
dalamarselinium, you meant zelda: a link to the past right? That game is friggin awesome06:55
ompaulGnonthgol, are you also in #ubuntu-unregged ?06:55
ompaulGnonthgol, /part #ubuntu-unregged06:55
seliniumdalamar: Indeed! Stuck trying to get past the big worm that needs 16 hits at the mo...06:55
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Gnonthgolompaul: I am not in #ubuntu-unregged but I am in several other rooms06:56
dalamarselinium, yeah, he's a pest, I just save state right before he starts going real fast and do it over and over till I get it ;)06:56
ompaulGnonthgol, well then note I am not :)06:57
seliniumdalamar: I think that is what i am going to do, save state after every hit.06:57
selinium:)06:57
dalamarheh yeah06:57
ompaulGnonthgol, to be honest  no ideas really06:57
brennerdalamar: snes9x seems to be better....noticed it doesn't have res. choices though06:57
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oceandeadhow can i get rid of pw's saved in keyring06:58
dalamarbrenner, well you can set what video mode it uses, or go fullscreen, or I just drag the window as big as i want it since i play on desktop .. but yeah no 'official' res settings06:59
brennerdalamar: ah, ok....but geeze, maybe i never noticed it with zsnes in windows, but my cpu seems to be workng hard ... i can hear it. (found this in zsnes as well):)06:59
HappyFool oceandead: 'gpg --delete-key <keyname>' ?06:59
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dalamarbrenner, what speed cpu?07:00
brenner2.4Ghz07:00
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dalamarwowsers, I never see much and I have the window pretty big on a 1.8 ghz ... have a the cpu monitor sitting on the taskbar too heh07:01
brennerdalamar: it doesn't even go to 100?!07:01
dalamaroh no, not with just it and like xchat running etc07:02
dalamarheh when I play while im burning a dvd it does though obviously07:02
brennergoes to 100 even with it open by itself07:02
dalamarthats wierd07:03
brennerhmm, i think it might be my motherboard07:03
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brenneranyway ... sorry guys, back ontopic. :)07:03
Ubuntu-Pkhi07:04
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Ubuntu-PkThis is Ubuntu-Pakistan LoCo Team07:04
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__filip_i have 4 partions on my harddrive. i have heard that it is impossibel to make more then 4 partions. is that right?07:05
brennerthat's news to me07:05
dalamari believe thats filesystem specific07:05
HappyFool__filip_: four 'normal' partitions07:05
cemcyou can have only 4 primary, i think07:06
HappyFool__filip_: if you make extended partitions, you can have more07:06
anomalyAnyone had experience with the K8NF-9 Gigabyte AMD64? gigabyte website does not have linux drivers listed. I am only missing drivers so far for my pci-e vid card and nvidia networking controller.07:06
__filip_so i cant make any more partitions?07:06
HappyFoolsorry, primary, not 'normal'07:06
pfp__filip_: it's impossible to make >4 primary partitions, but if one of them is an extended partition, it can contain as many logical partitions as you want07:06
__filip_pfp: how can i look if thay are logical then?07:07
cemcfdisk -l07:07
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pfp__filip_: logical partitions are numbered from 5 ->07:07
pfp__filip_: even if you have lessa than 4 primary partitions07:07
anomalyguess not. :)07:08
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__filip_pfp: i have hda1 hda3 hda4 and hda5 so then i can make one more partition?07:09
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cemcanomaly: nvidia network controller?07:09
paulproteus__filip_: Yes.07:09
pfp__filip_: yep07:09
one2im tryin to add my firewall script to startup but its dose not run.07:09
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__filip_pfp: how? i whant to make an 2 gb partition. it should take the space from hda5.07:10
one2i put the script in /etc/init.d then made link to it in /etc/rc3.d07:10
one2but did not work07:10
one2?07:10
paulproteus__filip_: I suggest using Qtparted to modify your partitions.07:10
one2:[07:10
anomalycemc the onboard gigabit ethernet adapter by nvidia. and the pci-e card yes :)07:10
paulproteusIt's nice and graphical and does resizing for you.07:10
thoreauputicone2: try rc2.d07:11
one2help07:11
anomalyI had to toss in an old rtl card heh07:11
pfpone2: the default runlevel is 2 -> use /etc/rc2.d/07:11
paulproteusanomaly: I hear forcedeth should work.  Does it?07:11
cemcanatole: what does lspci | grep Ethernet say ?07:11
one2 k the link is named S20netfileter the number after S what should it be?07:11
cemcsorry :)07:11
__filip_ok07:12
cemcanomaly: what does lspci | grep Ethernet say ?07:12
one2so dose the number matter07:12
one2?07:12
paulproteusone2: It's the order it gets started.07:12
anomalypaulproteus haven't heard of that actually. but so far its working nice with 64bit07:12
pfp__filip_: gparted (or qtparted too i guess) should be able to shrink hda5 to make room for hda6, but you can't do it while hda5 is in use07:12
anomalycemc I was using a livecd, I am back in windows now.07:12
paulproteusWhat "it" is working nice with 64bit, forcedeth?  Or the RealTek?07:12
one2k i'll try rc2 then report back07:12
one2brb07:12
__filip_my hda5 is not in use now.07:13
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cemcanomaly: i have an asus whatever, with onboard gigabit,07:13
anomalypaulproteus amd64.07:13
cemcand i'm using sk98lin07:13
__filip_pfp: how can i run them?07:14
anomalycemc ty07:14
cemcanomaly: try: modprobe sk98lin07:14
InitMassanyone who has tried to sync evolution with either a mobile phone or a webcalendar??07:14
cemcthen: dmesg07:14
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cemcand look what it says07:14
pfp__filip_: incidentally, i tried to shrink a partition w/ gparted yesterday but it refused to co-operate, so caveat emptor... also, *take* *backups* ;;)07:14
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cemc__filip_: if you don't use hda5 and it's the last partition, you could try to delete it, and create one bigger07:15
pfp__filip_: apt-get install gparted ; it's found in applications-systemtoolssomething-gparted07:15
cemc__filip_: simply with fdisk07:16
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kismetizewhat is 'hoary'?07:16
cemc__filip_: make sure you dont have any data on it ;)07:16
deltronkismetize: hoary is a version of ubuntu07:17
pfpah, yes, cemc has a point, if hda5 doesn't have anything in it atm07:17
deltrona release if you will07:17
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__filip_cemc: i whant to make an new partition07:17
one2k it starts now but only after the last action before gnome comes up07:17
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kismetizehow can you tell what version you have?07:17
one2i want it running before ntp gose out to sync time with ubuntu.org07:17
cemc__filip_: do you actually have any more free space on the disk ?07:17
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__filip_yes i have free space on my hda5 an i whant to make an new partition.07:18
dwerfhi there, i regularly come across the 'make'-command in help-files for installation, but have no idea how to apply it07:18
pfpcemc: i think he wants to split hda5 -> hda5 and hda607:18
cemcyep, then you can just delete hda5,07:18
one2i linked the script in rc2.d an named it S15netfilter07:18
cemcand create a smaller hda5,07:18
cemcand a hda607:18
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one2lil help07:18
__filip_i whant to take about 2 or 3 GB from hda5 an make hda607:19
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pfp__filip_: if hda5 doesn't have _any_ data on it now, that is07:19
cemc__filip_: _if_ hda5 is not used...07:19
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wrtpeepswhy doesn't firefox update with sudo apt-get upgrade mozilla-firefox?07:19
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wrtpeepsit says it has been held back07:19
one2the firewall needs to be running before the ntp fetch07:19
pfpone2: you could add it right after the one that does ifup, which is...07:19
dwerfeverybody, was my question above just to stupid to answer?07:19
__filip_okej07:20
cemc__filip_: you can do it with fdisk07:20
dwerfhi there, i regularly come across the 'make'-command in help-files for installation, but have no idea how to apply it07:20
dwerfeverybody, was my question above just to stupid to answer?07:20
__filip_can i make hda6 whit fdisk?07:20
cemcyes,07:20
one2yeah i dont see the symlinks for ifup in and of the rc*.d dir07:20
wrtpeepsdwerf: you need to have make installed07:20
cemcbut only after you take some space away from hda507:20
wrtpeepsthen you cd to the directory with your source files07:20
one2so i dont know when its being started07:20
wrtpeepsdo a ./configure07:20
__filip_yes that is what i whant07:20
pfpone2: /etc/rcS.d/S39ifupdown07:20
wrtpeepsand then do sudo make && make install07:21
dwerfwrtpeeps > is make an install program like windows has?07:21
pfpone2: rcS.d is run before any rc[2-5] .d07:21
one2wow rcS.d thats early stuff ;] 07:21
wrtpeepsmake is compiling07:21
cemc__filip_: you run fdisk /dev/hda,07:21
wrtpeepseffectively, it will install your program :)07:21
dwerfwrtpeeps > install it through synaptic?07:21
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wrtpeepsno07:21
one2k thanks i didnt look in rcS.d cause i thought it was to early in boot phase07:21
wrtpeepswhat are you trying to compile?07:21
cemc__filip_: then do a "d" (delete), you select 5 (as in hda5), then you do a "w" (write),07:22
wrtpeepsor, install07:22
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liquidfirehmm07:22
one2later people ;-] 07:22
cemc__filip_: then i guess you have to reboot07:22
liquidfiremy firefox is acting wierd07:22
liquidfireit just randomly closes07:22
cemc__filip_: and then you can recreate hda5 and hda607:22
ce33nadwerf: make is a step in compiling from source07:22
wrtpeepsdwerf: what are you looking to install07:22
__filip_does all my data in hda5 deleted?07:22
cemc__filip_: YEP!07:22
dwerfwrtpeeps > a game called Crown Cutlass07:22
wrtpeepsok07:22
pfp__filip_: actually, you can d(elete) 5 and then create new 5 and 6 in one go07:22
__filip_ohh..i dont whant that07:23
wrtpeepsand it's in a tar.gz or tar.bz2 ?07:23
__filip_i whant to have my data in hda507:23
cemc__filip_: i thought you said that you don't use hda507:23
__filip_i dident understod you eight07:23
dwerfwrtpeeps > so everything that can't be installed through synaptic, must be created using make?07:23
__filip_right07:23
dwerfwrtpeeps > so everything that can't be installed through synaptic, must be created using make?07:23
cemc__filip_: if you have data on hda5,07:23
wrtpeepsno, if it's source, then yes07:23
dwerfwrtpeeps > i'll go read some now07:24
cemcthen first you have to back it up somewhere,07:24
dwerfwrtpeeps > thanx07:24
wrtpeepsdwerf: what is your file called07:24
wrtpeepssomething.tar.gz?07:24
__filip_okej i will do that07:24
cemc__filip_: move it to hda1,2,3, wherever you have space,07:24
__filip_soon back07:24
pfp__filip_: ok, in that case you can try to shrink hda5 with gparted, _in_theory_ that will not touch your data07:24
dwerfwrtpeeps > i have several files in a folder07:24
cemc__filip_: after that,07:24
cemcyou have to unmount hda5!07:24
cemcthen delete it07:24
wrtpeepswhen you downloaded it dwerf07:24
wrtpeepswas it compressed inside a tar ?07:24
dwerfwrtpeeps > yes07:24
dalamarargh trying to remove damn near -anything- in synaptic removes ubuntu-desktop and alot of other stuff that shouldn't need to be removed07:24
wrtpeepsok07:24
wrtpeepswhere is it now07:25
cemcthen i think fdisk will tell you to restart,07:25
cemci think...07:25
wrtpeeps/home/dwerf/ ?07:25
dwerf/home/dwerf/desktop07:25
wrtpeepsok07:25
wrtpeepsand what's the folder called07:25
dalamaris there anyway to remove a package without synaptic removing all the other stuff it -thinks- it should remove?07:25
cemcpfp: i don't really like to resize the partitions like that ;)07:26
dwerfCrownCutlass-Alhpa 1.4.tar.gz07:26
pfpcemc: yep, if any part of the disk is in use while you run fdisk, you have to reboot afterwards07:26
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pfpcemc: me neither, especially after yesterday :P07:26
cemc:)07:26
wrtpeepsdwerf: open a terminal, and tar zxvf ~/Desktop/CrownCutlass-Alhpa 1.4.tar.gz07:26
liquidfirehmm07:26
cemcwhat happened?07:26
liquidfirei'm wondering why the hell07:26
liquidfirealsa is so great07:26
liquidfiremy sound is much better then in windows07:27
dwerfwrtpeeps > ok07:27
liquidfireOo07:27
wrtpeepsdwerf: you should see a lot of things being uncompressed, yes?07:27
dwerfone moment07:27
pfpcemc: gparted refused to play nicely, so i have to run resize2fs by hand and edit the parttable by hand...07:27
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cemcpfp: oops ;)07:27
pfpcemc: nothing's been destroyed, at least yet :)07:28
cemc:)07:28
minime-hi, can someone tell how to change default sound device at ubuntu? Now it's using my integrated device and i want it to use my soundblaster07:28
dwerfwrtpeeps > nothing seems to be happening07:28
wrtpeepsdid you get an error07:28
dwerfwrtpeeps > no error07:29
wrtpeepsdid you type what i said07:29
dwerfwrtpeeps > and no new shell entry is possible07:29
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wrtpeepswtf07:29
ompaul!conduct07:29
ubotumethinks conduct is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view07:29
wrtpeepsdwerf: type here what you typed in the terminal07:29
dalamardoes dpkg -r remove all associated packages of the package your removing like synaptic or -just- the package you specify?07:29
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dwerftar zxcf /home/dwerf/Desktop/CrownCutlass-Alpha 1.4.tar.gz07:30
Sepheebeardoes anyone have the totem firefox plugin working in breezy?07:30
wrtpeepshmmm07:30
Sepheebearit starts a clip/song then stops after like 2 seconds07:31
cemcdwerf: and after that command,07:31
wrtpeepsi don't think there can be a space07:31
wrtpeepsin the filename07:31
cemcdwerf: it said anything ?07:31
Sepheebearplay button is greyed out07:31
wrtpeepswait07:31
wrtpeepswrong07:31
wrtpeepsthere can be07:31
dwerfnothing07:32
cemchow big is that file ?07:32
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flipyis there any way to mount a reiser4 partition?07:32
wrtpeepsdwerf:07:33
wrtpeepstype07:33
cemcdwerf: wait a sec...07:33
cemcyou're running another command already,07:33
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cemcas i see it...07:33
wrtpeepstar zxvf /home/dwerf/Desktop/CrownCutlass-Alpha\ 1.4.tar.gz07:33
wrtpeepshe didn't escape the space in the filename07:33
cemcyou didn't gave that command at the prompt07:33
cemcit's not that...07:33
thoreauputicwrtpeeps: tab complete would do it for him automatically07:34
cemche ran a program at the prompt,07:34
wrtpeepsyea07:34
dalamardoes dpkg -r remove all associated packages of the package your removing like synaptic or -just- the package you specify?07:34
cemcand now the program is running,07:34
wrtpeepsit would have given an error07:34
wrtpeepsif the filename was wrong or it was corrupt07:34
cemcyepp07:34
cemcdwerf: open a _new_ terminal07:34
cemcand try that command again07:34
dwerfcemc > ok07:34
cemcand or you have to escape the space with a "07:34
cemcwith a "\",07:35
cemcar you put the filename in " "07:35
dalamarjust hit tab07:35
cemcor that :)07:35
dwerfcemc > so instead of a space a \?07:35
cemc \ and then a space07:35
cemc[20:33:29]  <wrtpeeps> tar zxvf /home/dwerf/Desktop/CrownCutlass-Alpha\ 1.4.tar.gz07:35
thoreauputicdwerf: just hit tab to complete the file name07:35
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cemcdwerf: tab is your friend :)07:36
thoreauputicyup07:36
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topyliand find the sanity.pl script on the net and run it on your home dir, so you get sane filenames :)07:37
dwerfcemc > it's extracted now!07:37
wrtpeepsok07:37
BOBNIXhello07:37
wrtpeepsin terminal07:37
BOBNIXhello07:38
BOBNIXhello07:38
BOBNIXhello07:38
wrtpeepstype cd ~/Desktop07:38
dwerfyes07:38
dwerfwrtpeeps > yes07:38
cyphaseanyone interested in Tomboy having the capibility to link to files?07:38
wrtpeepsok07:38
cyphaseand having those links change if the files are moved, using inotify07:38
wrtpeepsnow type cd C07:38
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wrtpeepsand hit tab07:38
wrtpeepsbefore you hit enter07:38
dalamarhad to update libc6, used a dpkg -i to install the deb, program I needed it for works fine, but synaptic now cries that the old ver is a broken package, how do i remove without deleting all the extra stuff synaptic is trying to delete with it?07:38
wrtpeepsto cycle through the folders beginning with C07:39
wrtpeepsso, basically, cd C<tab>07:39
cemcwrtpeeps: actually... i think it was unpacked in ~ , no ?07:39
dwerftab is my friend indeed!07:39
wrtpeepshmm07:39
wrtpeepsmaybe07:39
wrtpeepsdid you find the correct folder dwerf ?07:39
Sepheebeardalamar: dpkg --force-help07:39
cemci mean it does unpack it in whatever directory you're in, no?07:39
wrtpeepsi don't know :P07:40
dwerfwrtpeeps > you mean where it got extracted to?07:40
wrtpeepsyes07:40
dwerfwrtpeeps > yes07:40
wrtpeepsoh07:40
wrtpeepswhere07:40
dwerfat the desktop07:40
flipyI'm trying to make a reiser4 partiton and to let everyone rw, how can I do this? do I have to manually compile the kernel?07:40
wrtpeepsok07:40
thoreauputicdalamar: messing with libc guarantees a world of pain...07:41
cemcflipy: try: modprobe reiserfs07:41
wrtpeepsdwerf: what is the name of the folder it created07:41
wrtpeepsCrownCutlass?07:41
cemcflipy: what does it say ?07:41
flipylet me check07:41
Sepheebearthoreauputic:  sure does07:41
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dalamarthoreauputic, not really, everything works fine the old was is not in use its just lying in limbo and synaptic wants to do something about it being broken and I need to remove it07:42
XKpehi07:42
dalamarwithout removing ubuntu-desktop and other things that clearly dont need to ve uninstalled07:42
XKpecan anyone help me or give me some info about configuring nvidia 6600 on ubuntu?07:42
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abarbacciaquick question about madwifi drivers.  I downloaded the cvs, built it - but don't know how to load the modules07:42
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{BOB}PSYCHOhello?07:43
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abarbacciahi07:43
flipycemc: no output, so a successfull modprobe I guess07:43
thoreauputicapokryphos: got a mic yet ? *g*07:43
{BOB}PSYCHOi'm trying to get the ubuntu live cd to work with an imac g5. does anyone know of a way?07:43
cemcflipy: lsmod | grep reiser07:43
cemc?07:43
apokryphosthoreauputic: haven't had any time to look so far :D07:44
moomooboyhello can someone tell me how to install macromedia flash 7.007:44
thoreauputicapokryphos: :)07:44
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flipycemc: done, it shows reiserfs07:45
moomooboyim having trouble downloading it :(07:45
funkyHatubotu, tell moomooboy about flash07:45
{BOB}PSYCHOhas anyone gotten a live cd to work on the imac g5?07:45
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ce33na!flash07:45
ubotu[flash]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:46
ce33nafash instructions are there07:46
funkyHatjust done it ce33na ;)07:46
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ce33naflash07:46
ce33na:)07:46
flipy!reiser407:46
ubotuflipy: Are you smoking crack?07:46
oceandeadi need some help - i share a drive from a w**doze box - i could see it and connect to it without a problem until i chose to "save this password in keyring" when nautilus  asked - now i can neither see nor connect to it -07:46
flodinehello07:46
ce33namissed it07:46
j-where might I find detailed release noites for Hoary?07:47
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j-Im considering making the switch from Gentoo but I need to knwo what kernel/xorg version etc hoary uses07:48
{BOB}PSYCHOis there a list of the ppc systems ubuntu supports?07:48
flipywell, anyways, how can I mount a reiser4 partitions and let all users rw?07:48
tvoj-: kernel 2.6.1007:49
cemcflipy: i guess you just try to mount it07:49
cemcand if it doesn't, then you don't have the support for it in the kernel07:49
tvoj-: X.org 6.8.207:50
cemcwhat kernel do you have ?07:50
flipycemc: but, do I have to modify something to load reiserfs at boot time? and how to set up fstab to let every user rw?07:50
j-excellent07:50
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j-I think mout -t resiserfs only mounts reiser3 ...07:50
j-the man page makes no mention of reiser4 anyways07:51
QMario!Webcam07:51
ubotuI heard webcam is Support for webcams with messenger-like programs will be available in the next version of amsn (already in the CVS version) and with gaim-vv, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47841 and GQcam http://cse.unl.edu/~cluening/gqcam/07:51
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cyphase!tomboy07:52
ubotuI haven't a clue, cyphase07:52
j-is hfs+ rw support stable?  I'd like to set up a partition for OSX and ubuntu to share07:52
cyphasewhat the..07:52
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cyphaseit's in apt07:53
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cemcflipy: hang on07:54
flipyok07:54
dalamar!bum07:54
ubotubum is, like, totally, a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html07:54
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zeus1_hey all...still having sound probs07:56
ce33naare there some docs for using the filter function of synaptic?07:57
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cemcflipy: first of all, you need kernel support for reiser407:58
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flipycemc: say I have one that support?07:59
ce33nanevermind...I found them07:59
cemcflipy: after that you put a line in fstab, something like this,07:59
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cemc/dev/hdaX /stuff reiser4 options 0 008:00
samrox2anybody out there08:00
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oceandeadkind of08:00
abarbacciacan someone help me with madwifi08:00
cemcflipy: i don't know about the filetype, if you have reiser3, you have to put reiserfs there...08:00
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flipycemc: ok! thanks a lot!08:00
cemcwith reiser4 i dunno, maybe reiser4... you have to try08:00
InitMassi can't uninstall apache2-common because it's complaining about broken packages08:01
cemcthen, after mounting it, i guess you can do a chroot on the directory,08:01
cemcwhere you mounted the partition08:01
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flipycemc08:01
samrox2i need help....can't get real player08:01
flipywhy do I need to chroot?08:01
cemcumm... i ment chmod :)08:02
cemcsorry08:02
flipyok xDD08:02
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awb4422I'm having a problem - apache will not start and when i try to start it via webmin I get this error:08:02
awb4422Failed to start apache : Apache does not appear to be running :08:02
awb4422apache is not executable, not starting08:02
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robitailleawb4422: warty or hoary?08:03
awb4422hoary08:04
cemcawb4422: if apache is not running, how do you use webmin?08:04
awb4422it has its own webserver08:04
flipycemc: options like defaults or rw, umask, and so on?08:04
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cemcawb4422: sorry ;)08:04
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cemcawb4422: did you tried to start it like /etc/init.d/httpd start ?08:05
awb4422yes, except its apache2 not httpd08:06
cemcwell... and what did it say ?08:06
awb4422no output08:06
XKpeis there a tool in ubuntu to detect hardware and generate XF86config?08:06
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paulproteusXKpe: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:07
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awb4422i think my problem might be that i had apache installed at one point, and now i want apache208:07
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paulproteusXKpe: These days, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf , no XFree8608:07
pingsweptawb4422: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start08:07
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oceandeadi fear i will have to reinstall just to be able to access a share again08:08
XKpei guess i should install xorg first08:08
CameroonLoseris breezy already worth trying?08:08
m0r0nSometime I dont understand apt-get. I wanted to remove xmms for new installation, but it prints the message that mozilla-mplayer* mplayer-586* mplayer-fonts* xmms will be removed.08:08
awb4422pingswept: ok we're one step closer - still no output, but now i get an internal service error08:09
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oceandeadoh well08:09
Leonikhow do i create a new user in terminal?08:09
pfpLeonik: adduser lusername08:10
cemcLeonik: man useradd08:10
Leonikok08:10
minime-how do i change printer names?08:10
Leonikdo i have to be root?08:10
minime-Leonik: yes08:10
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m0r0nWhat do I have to do to get xmms ready for mp3-streaming. It always crashed when chosing it as streaming player08:11
cemcawb4422: internal service error where? on the webpage?08:11
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minime-m0r0n: err, it was gstream-mad or xmms-mad -package which you should install08:11
awb4422cemc: yes08:11
RageLinkXhello peeps08:11
m0r0nah ok08:11
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cemcawb4422: internal _server_ error maybe?08:12
awb4422yeah08:12
awb4422server08:12
awb4422whatever08:12
QMarioDoes anyone use a webcam with Ubuntu?08:12
__filip_i know the winmac_fstab, that add windows and mac partition but how can i add linux partitions into fstab easy?08:12
oceandeadsee you in 3-4 hours or so08:12
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cemcawb4422: i guess then apache is running08:12
Dr_Willisheh - webcams and linux - can be a big hassle.08:12
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awb4422im reading the error_log, it says im trying to load a module that isnt included in the configuration08:12
Dr_WillisQMario,  google for your specific webcam and its linux support as a start.08:12
awb4422oh well ill check out mythtv now08:12
pfp__filip_: i'd edit /etc/fstab and copy and existing line08:13
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QMarioDr_Willis, I am just wondering which one I should buy.08:13
QMarioAnyway, what does +E do?08:13
Dr_WillisQMario,  heh - well a great many got No linux support whatever. :( sadly.08:13
__filip_pfp: what? i dont understand what you saying.08:13
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toxiclehello08:13
toxiclei just installed ubuntu and i must say it's great08:14
samrox2need help with java install08:14
RageLinkXSwitched from Debian to Ubuntu 2 days ago... all went ok but now after I login the Gnome Died on me i guess... after login it doesnt load the menu (Nautilus) or anythiong else... managed to get the failsafe terminal up and GAIM to run .... but i wish i could get some pointers?08:14
cemc__filip_: never mind :) how does the partitioning go? :)08:14
QMarioUbotu, tell samrox2 about java.08:14
pfpheh08:14
__filip_cemc: i well,08:14
cemcpfp: :-)08:14
awb4422ok i removed the .htaccess file, it works now, now it just wants me to dl php files instead of display them08:14
cemcawb4422: you don't have php support maybe?08:14
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awb4422no i have it08:15
samrox2QMario, can you help me install java08:15
toxiclei'm sorry for asking this ... but why is there a root password when I didn't set one up?08:15
Dr_WillisRageLinkX,  could remove your .gnome* dirs. and force gnome back to the defaults..08:16
QMarioSamrox2, unfortunately, I have trouble installing it too... :(08:16
QMarioSorry.08:16
__filip_i copy the data into hda1 then i delete hda5 whit gparted then i only resize hda5 and make an new partition on the new space. so now i need to mount it08:16
QMario!Java08:16
ubotuhmm... java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:16
RageLinkXDr_Willis I'll Try that08:16
RageLinkXbrb08:16
RageLinkXthanks08:16
__filip_how to do that?08:16
cemc__filip_: whoa... hold on... you deleted hda5, then you resized it?08:16
topylitoxicle: root doesn't have a password, root logins are disabled08:17
cemctoxicle: you wanna try: sudo su -08:17
__filip_hmm maybe i dont delete it dont remamber but it work now but i need to put hda6 into sftab and i dont remamber how i do that08:17
RageLinkXtoxicle... unless you do sudo su... and when in su then su -08:17
funkyHattoxicle, if you are asked for the root password, you use your own password, if you need a root terminal, use sudo -i08:17
cemc__filip_: did you format it ?08:18
RageLinkXand then hit passwd... then you technically could set up the password08:18
__filip_yes in Ext308:18
funkyHatRageLinkX, or he could just do sudo passwd ;)08:18
funkyHatalthough setting up a root password is not advised apparently08:18
RageLinkXhehe08:18
RageLinkXyah08:18
samrox2ubotu, thanks...i'll check it out08:18
RageLinkXtrue08:18
ubotusamrox2: graag gedaan08:18
cemc__filip_: copy the line containing hda5, change to hda6, change the mount point,08:18
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cemc__filip_: and that's it08:19
toxicletopyli: ok thanks ... another question. where can i setup my services?08:19
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__filip_cemc okej08:19
Dr_Willismake sure the new mount point exists also.08:19
RageLinkX{brb restarting GDM}08:19
cemc__filip_: then you give: mount /mountpoint08:19
durtubotu, are you smoking crack?08:19
ubotudurt: Not a clue08:19
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kamikazespongehello08:19
Leonikhow do i change permissions to a folder?08:20
nightswimchmod08:20
cemcLeonik: man chmod08:20
cemc:)08:20
kamikazespongeor chown08:20
kamikazespongebut that's ownership08:20
topylitoxicle: the debian way. update-rc.d, or you can use a gui such as sysv-rc-conf08:21
Leonikyea i need chown08:21
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RageLinkXhello08:21
RageLinkXso erm08:22
kamikazespongei tried to ./configure openvpn, and i managed to get until 'crypto headers not found' or something like that. so i browsed the support forums and one reply said i had to type export LDFLAGS="-lkrb5" before ./configure and then it should work. i don't know what it did but now it breaks on checking the compiler08:22
pfpLeonik: btw, adduser sets up the home directory automatically, if you're still on that new user thing ;)08:22
kamikazespongedoes anyone know what i did with export and how to fix it?08:22
pfpuseradd doesn't iirc08:22
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RageLinkXok i did the rm -Rf .gnome*08:23
cemckamikazesponge: you need openssl-devel, i think08:23
RageLinkXthen i get the cursor...08:23
RageLinkXno GUI after the splash login08:23
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kamikazespongecemc: think so, but i installed that already. now the problem is i don't even get past the first stages of configure08:23
robotgeekkamikazesponge: did u put that in your .bash profile?08:23
kamikazespongeno, i just typed it at the console08:24
robotgeekkamikazesponge: if not, just close that terminal, and open a new one :)08:24
kamikazespongerobotgeek: ok, thanks, will try. but.. what exactly did it do?08:24
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mikkelkHi. I can use mpg321 to play mp3 files, but i can't use XMMS or Amarok. Anybody know why?08:24
robotgeekkamikazesponge: i don't knw what it did, but it set some environment variables wrongly, i guess08:25
pfpkamikazesponge: posting the ./configure output would prolly help too...08:25
kamikazespongeahh08:25
RageLinkXIs there anyway to force applications to launch from tty1 on tty708:25
RageLinkX?08:25
kamikazespongepfp: i could paste the exact output in a query?08:25
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robotgeek!pastebin08:26
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:26
kamikazespongegood idea08:26
pfpkamikazesponge: pastebin rather :)08:26
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zeus1_anyone can help fix sound08:27
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QMario!Botsnack08:28
ubotu:)08:28
RageLinkX!Botsnack08:29
RageLinkX???08:29
robotgeekRageLinkX: ubotu says no to bot abuse!08:29
robotgeek!lart RageLinkX08:29
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RageLinkXhaha08:29
zeus1_sound doesnt work on linux :(08:30
kamikazespongepfp: this is the output i get: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169508:30
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DocTomoehas anyone here managed to getting the :-sign in dosbox with a german keyboard layout? (I know i should be Shift-, but this does not work)08:30
Dr_Williszeus1_,  has it ever worked?08:30
kamikazespongepfp: i included the piece of config.log that i think described the problem. but it doesn't make me much wiser08:30
zeus1_it works through the speakers! but not the headset08:30
Dr_Williszeus1_,  werent you in here yeasterday asking the same thing?08:30
mirakperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:08:30
mirak        LANGUAGE = (unset),08:30
mirak        LC_ALL = (unset),08:30
mirakI have this error08:31
cemc[21:23:12]  <cemc> kamikazesponge: you need openssl-devel, i think08:31
zeus1_yes08:31
QMario!Abuse08:31
ubotuQMario: Are you on ritalin?08:31
QMario!Bot abuse08:31
mirakI always have it I don't know how to fix it08:31
ubotuI heard bot abuse is a bannable offense08:31
Dr_Willismirak,  thats just a warning not an error.08:31
kamikazespongecemc: could be, but i installed that already08:31
zeus1_crimsun helped me fix but when I rebooted it DIDNT WORK ANYMORE!!!08:31
pfpzeus1_: at least some progres then :)08:31
cemckamikazesponge: you sure you installed it ?08:31
Dr_Williszeus1_,  lol.08:31
zeus1_no08:31
mirakDr_Willis: that's annoying then :)08:31
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QMarioUbotu, tell RageLinkX about bot abuse.08:31
zeus1_sound was working thru speakers always08:31
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zeus1_in ubuntu08:31
mirakDr_Willis: this happens during dist-upgrade08:31
Dr_Willismirak,  set those settings.. but seting them to what - i never could figure out.08:31
benplautwhat?! only 2 updates this morning?! :P08:31
kamikazespongecemc: i'll try again, but i believe it said 'already installed' or something with apt-get08:31
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zeus1_theres updates? where08:31
Dr_Willisexport LC_ALL=Somthing :P08:31
pirastbenplaut: I am confused, too :-)08:31
ElvenProgrammerok i corrupted my installation, how can i restore it?08:32
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cemckamikazesponge: try again, paste the output08:32
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zeus1_so pfp and dr_willis any suggestions on how 2 fix08:32
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RageLinkXunless the bot is really hot ....08:32
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kamikazespongecemc: it was different, i installed libssl-dev, not openssl-devel. apt-cache search openssl-devel doesn't show it, and openssl doesn't include openssl-devel either when i search for it08:33
Dr_Williszeus1_,  do whatever ya did yesterday :P08:33
atlantaHowdy, could someone tell me if ubuntu supports mx90008:33
kamikazespongecemc: and apt-get openssl-devel doesn't work either08:33
atlantalogitechs bluetooth keyboard and mouse that is08:33
pfpzeus1_: since crimsun apparently knows your problem, i suggest you ask him/her08:33
kamikazespongecemc: apt-get install*08:33
Dr_Williszeus1_,   then toss the commands in your rc.local (oh wait.. what does ubuntu do for that) i forget.08:33
RageLinkXBTW..... any clue on how i can make nautilus run in th backend again?08:33
Dr_Williszeus1_,  may want to check the ubuntu forums/wiki also.   proberly someone ahs documented what you need to do.08:34
zeus1_i posted on the forums last night...ill check the wiki tho08:34
kamikazespongeRageLinkX: i'm not sure what you mean but can't you ctrl+z, bg, or nautilus & (or whatever you use to start nautilus)?08:34
zeus1_noo!!!! dont make me go back to windows just to listen to my songs!!! noooo!!!08:35
X7Czeus1_ noo!!!! dont make me go back to windows just to listen to my songs!!! noooo!!! << read www.ubuntuguide.org08:35
Dr_Willismost of the times the answeres areall ready there in the forums. You just have to use the serch to find them. :P08:35
benplautRageLinkX, abusing the bot is pretty much playing with it :P08:35
Dr_Willislol.08:35
pirastatlanta: This will help I think: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59729&highlight=mx90008:35
zeus1_k thx x7c08:35
zeus1_btw i submitted a bug report08:35
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atlantapirast: thanks :)08:36
zeus1_so hopefully this will b fixed in breezeh08:36
RageLinkXkamikazesponge: thats the thing.... I dont know... i thought it was supposed to do that by itself aparently when i came into the office today it just loads a blank (brown) screen with the mouse pointer in it08:36
RageLinkXlooks soo sad and desolate it makes me want to cry08:36
kamikazespongeRageLinkX: strange..08:36
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kamikazespongeRageLinkX: lol08:36
pfpkamikazesponge: "checking openssl/evp.h presence... no", but the libssl-dev package has that file08:36
Dr_Williszeus1_,  if it defaulted to ehabling headphones - people would submit a bug - about the other speakers or whatever not workign right08:37
cemclibssl... damn ;)08:37
kamikazespongepfp: i installed that08:37
Dr_Willisthats the nature of these new cheap flexable cards.08:37
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pfpkamikazesponge: hm, then configure is not finding it for some reason....08:37
eklektikhelp! my gnome taskbar ahs vanished!08:37
Milk_spambot attack huh.. no fun!08:37
kamikazespongepfp: can i make it find it someway?08:37
RageLinkXhey another one08:37
pfpkamikazesponge: have you deleted configure's cache after you installed libssl-dev ?08:38
mirakhi08:38
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pirastbye08:38
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mirakhow to change the frame buffer size ?08:38
eklektikRageLinkX: you too?08:38
cemccan one search for packages with apt-get? :)08:38
kamikazespongepfp: never mind, i was being stupid! think i fixed it now.. libssl-dev somehow installed (maybe again, doubt it..) when i apt-getted it.. so i think i was just stupid08:38
RageLinkXeklektik: yeps08:38
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kamikazespongecemc: i use apt-cache search blah08:38
pfpkamikazesponge:  :)08:38
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eklektikouch08:39
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kamikazespongepfp: i'm going to try again..08:39
RageLinkXeklektik: tried to reload the GDM?08:39
eklektikRageLinkX: any idea why that happened?08:39
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eklektikRageLinkX: sorry, I'm a n00b, no idea how to do that08:39
RageLinkXlast time i was here i lost power 5 times in 1 day (no UPS)08:39
kamikazespongepfp: by the way, do you accidently know if openvpn must be run as root or as unpriviledged user?08:39
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RageLinkXbut it was working when i left it08:39
kamikazespongepfp: the readmy doesn't mention it i believe08:40
rustybucket /msg nickserv link <primary-nick> rustybucket08:40
cemckamikazesponge: i think it has some option08:40
cemcyou have to run it root, then it will change the user08:40
pfpkamikazesponge: i dunno, i've only used IPSec08:40
rustybucketCan anyone tell me how to become root?08:40
kamikazespongepfp: what's that?08:41
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RageLinkXeklektik: how did yours turn out? is it when you log in or did it disappear08:41
RageLinkXrustybucket: sudo su08:41
kamikazespongerustybucket: sudo passwd root08:41
rustybucketthat creates the root and password?08:41
pfpkamikazesponge: IPSec is the standard / de facto way of doing VPN, altough a bit complicated08:41
kamikazespongerustybucket: but then you enable the root account! don't do that unless you want that08:41
robotgeekubotu tell rustybucket about sudo08:41
cemcpfp: a bit too complicated if you ask me :-P08:41
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cyphaseDoes anyone know of a demo of Sahana?08:42
kamikazespongerustybucket: no, root is already there, but locked for security reasons, you can enable it by doing that08:42
pfpkamikazesponge: a lot of hardware "vpn boxes" exist for vpn, also an apt-gettable thing for ubuntu08:42
mikkelkHi. I can use mpg321 to play mp3 files, but i can't use XMMS or Amarok. Anybody know why?08:42
eklektikRageLinkX: I get the login screen, then it goes further. I even get my desktop, but after that nothing. my hard disk keeps reading, but nothing. no Applications. Places or System08:42
Deterministhas OO2 been officially released yet or is the version on the repos still a beta?08:42
kamikazespongepfp: ah, i see08:42
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pfpcemc: yeah, i've only done it when forced to :)08:42
kamikazespongepfp: but i've used openvpn already under windows, and i like it and understand it, so that's why i chose openvpn08:42
robotgeekmikkelk: you might want to install the gstremer packages, more here08:42
elvirolo/umode +CE08:42
Milk_anyone have experiance with xawtv or mythtv?08:42
RageLinkXeklektik: replaced any libraries?08:43
elvirolohi all08:43
kamikazespongepfp: and ./configure works! :D08:43
robotgeek!codecs08:43
ubotumethinks codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:43
eklektikRageLinkX: Nope. none that I can recall. Have you  been able to fix your problem08:43
pfpkamikazesponge: good :) from what i read on the openvpn page, it seems easier to set up08:43
elviroloone of my friends has an epson stylus C20 UX printer, and it's not detected by the printer manger08:43
elviroloaccording to linuxprinting.org, it should be supported08:43
damsko!ping08:43
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, damsko.08:43
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cemcpfp: much easier :)08:44
kamikazespongepfp: under windows it's really easy, especially with the gui. the only thing i had problems with were the ssl certificates, but i never did that before.. now i can make those too ^^08:44
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benplautdamsko, what the hell?!08:44
RageLinkXeklektik: still on that... i think it might be sorta the same issue... i already restarted GDM (removed it and re-installed it ) same with Gnome, and Nautilus, and the xorg packages08:44
pfpkamikazesponge: can you use openvpn for "road warrior" connections? i.e. a windows user w/ changing ip, connecting to the office?08:44
cemckamikazesponge: if you manage to make windows client -> linux server,08:45
cemcwith openvpn,08:45
cemci would be interested in that too ;)08:45
elviroloideas anyone?08:45
kamikazespongepfp: i don't see why not08:45
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cemci never got it working right,08:45
robotgeekRageLinkX: did  uupgrade to breezy ?08:45
cemci dunno why08:45
RageLinkXeklektik: i believe someof the subservices are just not loading08:45
RageLinkXwhat is breezy?08:45
kamikazespongecemc: i think you should be able too, that's what i'm trying to get done too08:45
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eklektikRageLinkX: oh ok. So how do I do that? I can boot into the terminal using the (recovery) option, yeah? then what's the procedure?08:45
robotgeekRageLinkX: okay..good :)08:45
kamikazespongeto*08:46
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robotgeek!breezy08:46
ubotusomebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/08:46
cemckamikazesponge: i managed to get it working with linux client and linux server,08:46
kamikazespongecemc: but i'll let you know as soon as i did it08:46
kamikazespongecemc: openvpn or some random vpn?08:46
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cemcopenvpm08:46
robotgeekRageLinkX: did u try to login with failsafe gnome?08:46
cemcopenvpn08:46
RageLinkXyeah.. same results08:46
kamikazespongecemc: hmm.. well, i hope it works08:46
cemckamikazesponge: 2.0_rc2108:46
kamikazespongecemc: i don't see why not actually08:47
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kamikazespongecemc: i'm using 2.0.208:47
cemckamikazesponge: well, the client on windows did connect to the server,08:47
RageLinkXusing failsafe terminal to open GAIM to talk to you guys :)08:47
cemcbut there were some routing problems,08:47
cemcor i dunno,08:47
cemcping didn't work :)08:47
kamikazespongecemc: i'm just going to keep trying :P08:47
cemclet me know08:48
cemcpls08:48
kamikazespongecemc: but do you think i can use the ssl-certificates i made in windows with the linux-version of openvpn?08:48
kamikazespongecemc: sure08:48
eklektikRageLinkX: good for you, I had to resort to Windoze :s08:48
RageLinkXrobotgeek: my Ubunty is uo to date with the CVS08:48
cemckamikazesponge: i don't see why not...08:48
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kamikazespongeeklektik: i'm on windoze now :P08:48
RageLinkXand i will never do it again08:48
robotgeekRageLinkX: cvs?08:48
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kamikazespongecemc: me neither, but i don't see a lot of things about certificates, i don't even know how they work, i just *remotely* know what they are08:49
robotgeekRageLinkX: so, u compile ubuntu from source?08:49
cemcactually i'm trying out ubuntu for the first time now ;)08:49
RageLinkXrobotgeek: nope.. i have the CD08:49
kamikazespongei'm planning on installing ubuntu next to windows08:49
RageLinkXtthe Hoary Hedgehog08:49
kamikazespongecemc: i like it already08:49
RageLinkXthen Synaptic updated everything08:49
robotgeekRageLinkX: okay,it's not cvs :)08:49
RageLinkXoops08:49
robotgeekRageLinkX: anyways, did u try to login with failsafe-gnome?08:50
HappyFool!start a scm war08:50
ubotuHappyFool: I don't know, could you explain it?08:50
cemci have one problem though... i don't seem to manage to connect to my ubuntu box to the X server...08:50
cemcgdm is running on breezy,08:50
robotgeek!start a language war08:50
ubotuGerman is better than C++!08:50
HappyFoolsvn is *way* better than cvs! :P08:50
eklektikrobotgeek: well, I have updated the main secutiry and system stuff. I did add the Marillat repository though.08:50
cemci enables xdmcp too08:50
kamikazespongecemc: i used fedora before, but that missed a load of dependencies so it took a loooong time before i got anything done, then i tried SuSE but that install really really really failed, don't know what happened08:50
RageLinkXrobotgeek:  yeah ... i still get a blank screen ... by blank i mean Ubunu brown i guess08:50
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eklektikrobotgeek: me too08:51
cemckamikazesponge: i'm using fedora actually right now08:51
kamikazespongecemc: but somehow even simple things like updatedb didn't work.. and it didn't have gcc, etc..08:51
kamikazespongecemc: fc4 or 3?08:51
cemcfc2 :)08:51
kamikazespongelol08:51
cemcfc3 and fc4 suxx (my opinion)08:51
cemca bit...08:51
robotgeekRageLinkX,eklektik : i would try to update the system, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and try again08:51
cemcanyway...08:51
kamikazespongei tried 3 for my server, but i couldn't get it to work the way i wanted it to08:52
RageLinkXrobotgeek: already up to date wif everything08:52
RageLinkXdid that just now08:52
cemcsomebody some hints about that remote X problem? :)08:52
kamikazespongenow i'm using ubuntu and i'm actually quite satisfied about how things work08:52
robotgeekRageLinkX,eklektik : if that doesn't work, try reinstalling gnome-panel-data package08:52
kamikazespongecemc: what problem?08:52
cemci installed a breezy,08:52
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cemcit's running gdm,08:52
rustybucketubotu tell rustybucket about sudo08:53
kamikazespongecemc: you're speaking chinese to me :P08:53
cemcand i want to connect to the X server from another computer08:53
cemcX -query host08:53
robotgeekRageLinkX,eklektik : "sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-panel data && sudo apt-get install gnome-panel-data"08:53
kamikazespongecemc: you mean remote desktop?08:53
cemcnot really,08:53
cemcthat works08:53
cemcwith vnc08:53
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kamikazespongeyeah08:53
cemci want to connect directly to the X server08:53
cemcthere is some protocol for this,08:54
cemcXDMCP,08:54
RageLinkXrobotgeek: trying that as we speak08:54
RageLinkXerm.. chat08:54
RageLinkXbrb... must reload GNOME08:54
cemcyou can connect to it, and log in through X08:54
eklektikrobotgeek, RageLinkX: I'll try that out, thanks08:54
kamikazespongecemc: never heard of it.. but i'm not working with linux for that long..08:54
eklektikbrb08:54
HappyFoolcemc: i'd recommend hoary instead of breezy, unless you're just messing about08:54
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cemcHappyFool: in fact, i'm just messing around, but i don't see why it's not working ;)08:55
kamikazespongeah wait, so breezy is a version of ubuntu. now i get it08:55
ElvenProgrammeri'm in the middle of the installation, but the installer seems to be not able to read from the cd, is there a way to complete the installation using the network?08:55
cemckamikazesponge: the next version, i guess08:55
HappyFoolcemc: (this is hoary, may be same for breezy): look in system -> admin -> login screen setup08:55
HappyFoolcemc: there's and xdmcp tab there08:55
kamikazespongecemc: ah, ok08:55
cemcHappyFool: lemme check08:55
HappyFoolkamikazesponge: breezy is the october 2005 release -- it's still under development08:56
kamikazespongecemc: ok, i managed to install openvpn, now i don't get it anymore :P08:56
kamikazespongeHappyFool: ah08:56
cemckamikazesponge: don't get what?08:56
HappyFoolcemc: if i recall correctly, this stuff is in gdm.conf, somewhere under /etc/X11/08:56
zeus1_hmm...kamikazesponge u are new to ubuntu does ur sound work08:56
cemcHappyFool: yepp08:56
cemci looked there,08:56
kamikazespongecemc: just about everything :P08:56
cemcactually the problem is not that i can't connect,08:57
cemccause i can,08:57
cemcand the login screen appears,08:57
kamikazespongezeus1_: i have no idea, i don't even have a sound card in my server08:57
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cemcbut when i try to log in,08:57
cemcit won't let me,08:57
cemci give the user and pass,08:57
zeus1_oh ok08:57
cemcthe login screen disappears for a second,08:57
cemcthen it reappears as if nothing happened08:57
cemcand that's it08:57
kamikazespongecemc: i guess i'll just go read the readme :P08:58
cemcusername, pass, all ok08:58
HappyFoolcemc: i'm afraid i can't help much more; it's been a year since i played with xdcmp, and to be honest breezy could be broken in weird ways08:58
cemckamikazesponge: read the howto on the site08:58
cemcfor openvpn 2.008:58
kamikazespongecemc: that's what i meant08:58
cemcok08:58
HappyFoolzeus1_: have you read the wiki regarding sound issues?08:58
HappyFool!sound08:58
ubotufrom memory, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/08:58
kamikazesponge:P08:58
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dalamarhow can I find out exactly whats in a package?08:58
HappyFooldalamar: dpkg -L <package-name>08:59
RageLinkXguess who's back08:59
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HappyFooldalamar: there's a way to look inside .deb files too -- see 'man dpkg-deb' for that08:59
RageLinkXrobotgeek: what is Ubuntu's wibndow manager?08:59
RageLinkX oops ....window08:59
zeus1_happyfool: kind of...but i dont get it :(08:59
pfpRageLinkX: metacity is the default for gnome09:00
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WhistlerRageLinkX gnome09:00
RageLinkXsweet.. i'll try re-installing that09:00
HappyFoolzeus1_: ok, do you hear any sounds at all?09:00
zeus1_happyfool: yes...the speakers work perfectly fine...just the headset thats malfunctioning09:00
zeus1_happyfool: and the headset works fine  in windows xp09:00
robotgeekRageLinkX: brb,phone trouble-shooting! :)09:00
HappyFoolzeus1_: 'malfunctioning' means? doesn't work at all, or .. ?09:00
RageLinkXrobotgeek: kewl09:01
pfpHappyFool: he has an usb headset, so what he probably need is a way to change the default sound device09:01
zeus1_happyfool: No sounds at all through the headset09:01
pfp.. or then maybe not, *shrug*09:01
HappyFoolpfp: eek09:01
zeus1_happyfool: Last night crimsun helped me fix it, but when I rebooted the problem arised again09:02
zeus1_the sound came through the headset just fine last night when he helped09:02
zeus1_but IDR what he told me to do again :(09:02
HappyFoolzeus1_: do you remember at all what it was he did? was it in the GUI (i.e., no command-line stuff)09:02
zeus1_uhh09:02
zeus1_something with changing the default audio sink to custom09:02
RageLinkXbrb.... rebooting GDM (again)09:02
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zeus1_and changing the pipeline09:02
zeus1_and also running a command to detect audio hardware09:03
HappyFoolzeus1_: ok, look in System -> Preferences -> Multimedia systems selector09:03
HappyFoolzeus1_: does that look familiar?09:03
zeus1_yes09:03
zeus1_yes happyfool09:03
zeus1_thats where i changed the sink09:03
HappyFoolzeus1_: ok, i'm afraid i don't know about custom pipelines09:03
zeus1_I changed it to custom and put the pipeline as "alsasink device=plughw:1,0"09:04
benplautwhat do you recommend for a text editor with an interface similar to Gedit, but no tabs, and a bit lighter weight?09:04
HappyFoolok09:04
HappyFoolzeus1_: sorry, i think this is beyond me09:04
zeus1_k :*(09:05
kamikazespongecemc: i edited the vars file correctly but when i do ./clean-all it whines about not defining KEY_DIR09:05
zeus1_looks like sound will never work for me on linux...09:05
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HappyFoolit worked yesterday ;)09:05
zeus1_yes! but when i rebooted it didnt09:05
HappyFooltry the forums or user mailing list09:05
zeus1_and I shut down my pc every night before i go to bed09:05
zeus1_so that wont work for me....09:05
HappyFoolor leave a memo for crimsun09:05
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robotgeekbenplaut: nedit09:05
benplautk09:05
robotgeekbenplaut: it does tabs though09:06
durtscratchpad maybe09:06
HappyFoolhow about nano (or vi) in a gnome-terminal ? ;)09:06
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cemckamikazesponge: hm,09:07
cemckamikazesponge: you have to do a....09:07
cemcwait a sec09:07
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cemcyou have to do a: . vars09:08
durtor leafpad09:08
cemclike this, in the easy-rsa directory09:08
cemc. vars09:08
bytefoodoes anyone know why gnome would lock up when trying to access an ntfs usb drive09:08
kamikazespongecemc: you mean ./vars? did that already09:08
bytefooit just sits there trying to load the filebrowser window forever :-/09:08
cemc[root@dummy easy-rsa] # . vars09:08
cemcNOTE: when you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on /etc/openvpn/openvpn-2.0_rc21/easy-rsa/keys09:08
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elviroloideas about my prob, guys ?09:09
kamikazespongecemc: huh, i did that too now and now it works.. how is . vars different from ./vars?09:09
RageLinkX!bot09:09
ubotuI'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to ragelinkx? I think not. Bot, spot, chicken... rhyming sucks.09:09
regeya!editor war09:09
uboturegeya: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:09
kamikazespongecemc: and it's even my own fault, the readme said . ./vars09:09
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regeya!start an editor war09:09
ubotuvim is better than xemacs09:09
zeus1_:O umm09:09
regeyaw0000000000t09:09
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RageLinkXyo eklektik09:10
zeus1_my plantronics does NOT show in the device manager09:10
regeya!start an os war09:10
zeus1_plantronics headset that is09:10
ubotuI haven't a clue, regeya09:10
regeya!start an OS war09:10
ubotuWish i knew, regeya09:10
pfpkamikazesponge: ". vars" reads the commands to the current shell, while "./vars" uses a new instance (process)09:10
regeyadang.09:10
regeyaubotu can't start an os war?09:10
uboturegeya: I don't know, could you explain it?09:10
durt!start a race war09:10
ubotudurt: I don't know, could you explain it?09:10
zeus1_How can I make my plantronics headset show in the device manager09:10
eklektikRageLinkX: how's it going with ya?09:10
kamikazespongepfp: ok, i get it now09:10
regeyaubotu: no, regeya is a prat09:10
uboturegeya: okay09:10
regeya!regeya09:11
ubotuwell, regeya is a prat09:11
zeus1_cat /proc/asound/modules09:11
RageLinkXeklektik: im about to bak everythign up and re-install09:11
zeus1_oops09:11
regeyarofflecopters09:11
zeus1_lol thout i was in terminal09:11
bytefoomy sound doesnt work :(09:11
bytefooafter i apt-get upgrade :(09:11
eklektikrobotgeek, RageLinkX: I'm back in failsafe GNOME - everything is so slow09:11
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RageLinkXgood for you eklektik.... what did the trick?09:11
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thoreauputic!doesn't work09:12
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ubotudoesn't work is, like, something you should never say.  Be more specific.09:12
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bytefoook...there is no sound?09:12
thoreauputicheheh09:12
cemcquestion...09:12
hector_acostais there a way to play wmv files in totem under 64bit ubuntu?09:12
bytefoothere was sound, and then after upgrading, there is none? lol ;X09:12
WeemsBRB09:12
cemcafter i started breezy, and logged in, in gnome,09:12
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cemcan icon appeared with some updates,09:12
eklektikRageLinkX: not good at all. I still don't have the applications panels :(09:12
Kakashi10is there some breezy channel?09:12
cemctelling me to update packages09:12
RageLinkXhector_acosta: there is.... as long as it is not ASF win32 enconding09:12
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thoreauputicbytefoo: maybe try starting some sound apps froma terminal and see what errors you get09:13
vader1102!wine09:13
cemci set up the proxy, but it doesn't seem to care,09:13
RageLinkXhector_acosta: try the following... mplayer or VLC (VideoLan)09:13
bytefooi didnt get any errors when playing a dvd with vlc09:13
cemcit downloads with 5 kb/s ...09:13
hector_acostaRageLinkX: i know it can be played because they play under xine09:13
thoreauputicbytefoo: or check alsamixer to see if sound is muted09:13
RageLinkXsure... just get the codecs then09:13
bytefooand this freaking usb drive keeps messing up gnome :-/09:14
RageLinkXif you install VLC it will update the codecs used bu totem as well09:14
RageLinkXthen you just use totem09:14
kamikazespongewee, did the certificates. in one time! i'm getting experienced :P09:14
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elviroloplease, at least, tell me if you _don't_ know, but don't leav as i i were talking to a dead vietnamese hedgehog09:14
hector_acostaRageLinkX: thing is i updated my sources.list to a place where iknow there is an mplayer package but it saids it cant download it09:14
elviroloas if*09:14
hector_acostaRageLinkX: maybe for the 64 bit thingy..09:14
eklektikoh this hurts09:15
RageLinkXhector_acosta:  you could also just get the codecs....  try the GNU site for em09:15
eklektik:s09:15
RageLinkXjust get the source and recompile09:15
kamikazespongebrb09:15
eklektikrobotgeek, RageLinkX: catch you guys later - it's 1am in my part of the world, and I've got work in a few hours. thanks guys09:15
hector_acostaRageLinkX: i do know how to compile but ive heard mplayer is a bit of a hard thing to do09:16
RageLinkXtry VLC then09:16
RageLinkXgoogle it09:16
hector_acostak09:16
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bytefoo:|09:17
zeus1_anyone know how to maek the USB headset show up in device manager09:17
zeus1_I dont see it...that could be the issue im having09:17
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cemchow can i make apt-get to use a proxy ?09:19
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kamikazespongeis there a command in ubuntu that substitutes the service command?09:19
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mikkelkI have a dir on a local server, and i want to mount that dir on my desktop. How do i do that?09:20
levanderWhat are people doing about a user directory on the server when people sftp into it via sshd?09:20
hector_acostakamikazesponge: i think you might want the bum package09:20
kamikazespongehector_acosta: what's that?09:20
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GuNNeRis there a way to emulate 32bit in ubuntu for amd64?09:21
pfpcemc: http_proxy="http://proxy.foo.com:port/" apt-get blblb i think09:21
hector_acostakamikazesponge: boot up manager09:21
pfpcemc: or man apt.conf and add a file to /etc/apt/conf.d/09:21
hector_acostaor something like that09:21
kamikazespongehector_acosta: but how can that substitute the service-command?09:21
elvirolohow do i know if a usb device is detected ?09:21
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HappyFoolelvirolo: try 'lsusb'09:22
hector_acostawell thats what the service command does.. doesnt it? it starts or stops a service or adds it or removes it form bootup09:22
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HappyFoolelvirolo: also, you can look at the output of 'dmesg' just before and after you plug it in09:22
ionrockhas anyone seen it when gaim shows a dialog such as disconnected or idle message that it pushes all the windows down on all the workspaces?09:22
elviroloHappyFool: oh i should have thought of that, thansks :)09:22
ionrockthis is in breezy bte09:23
ionrocks/bte/btw09:23
hector_acostabrb.09:23
kamikazespongehector_acosta: yes, but a boot manager does something else for as far as i know09:23
kamikazesponge..09:23
HappyFoolGuNNeR: there's something called a '32-bit chroot', but i don't know much about it09:23
zeus1_anyone know how to add my USB headset to the device manager....that could be my problem with no sound09:23
holycowgah!09:24
holycowholy f are windows xp fonts ugly!09:24
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holycowjesus, i haven't seen xp in over a year, this is very startling09:24
Whistlerwhahahahahha09:24
RageLinkXhaha09:24
Whistlerhttp://www.b0g.org/wsnm/uploads/banho5vm.jpg09:24
Whistlerthis one good09:25
Whistler:D09:25
cemcpfp: it works with http_proxy... apt-bla09:25
WhistlerROLF09:25
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cemcpfp: but i was wondering how can i tell the packet manager in gnome to use it...09:25
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GuNNeRHappyFool: yea I've tried that and got some programs running I was just hoping there'd be a better way09:25
GuNNeRheh09:25
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HappyFoolcemc: i think pfp is right; look at 'man apt.conf'09:27
h0sl3rHow do I get a boot up splash to work in linux?09:27
bytefoowiki bootsplash09:27
bytefooor gensplash :-/09:27
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holycowh0sl3r, depends, the easiest method is for you to wait for breezy to release09:28
topylior splashy09:28
holycowit should come with usplash09:28
cemcHappyFool: i will, no prob... the package manager in gnome uses apt ?09:28
h0sl3rok09:28
pfpit _is_ apt :)09:28
kamikazespongecemc: dh params take loooooong with linux :|09:28
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topylih0sl3r: you could use any of those :)09:28
HappyFoolcemc: yip; synaptic is an apt front-end, and i'm pretty sure the 'add software' doodad is also an apt frontend09:28
bytefooman this shit is hosed :(09:28
vader1102hehehe, I love this....I love getting confused trying to set something up and cannot find it propperly in google09:29
h0sl3rtopyli: are those programs, or what?09:29
cemcHappyFool, pfp: ok, i'll try09:29
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topylih0sl3r: splashy at least is a simple splash screen that just hides the boot stuff. it was pretty easy when i tried it09:29
bytefooi love how totem freezes when i try to play a dvd, but vlc can play it but no sound, and how my ntfs usb drive freezes gnome09:30
bytefooit's fantastic :|09:30
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cemcheh, i did an apt-get dist-upgrade, downloaded just around 160 packets :)09:30
topylih0sl3r: completely useless and rather annoying too :)09:30
h0sl3rtopyli: mandrake had one with a status bar. where can i get one like that?09:30
BROKEN_LADDERANYONE Know how to turn off the highlighting in list view in nautilus?09:30
EpixHow do i setup a Ad Hoc network from ubuntu?09:30
apokryphos!anyone09:30
ubotuanyone is probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>09:30
RageLinkXwhat does this do apt-get dist-upgrade ?09:30
HappyFoolfwiw, they're normally called packages ;)09:30
zeus1_anyone know how to add my USB headset to the device manager....that could be my problem with no sound09:30
apokryphosRageLinkX: man apt-get09:30
topylih0sl3r: splashy seemed to have that sort of thing09:30
rustybucketask ubuto about sudo09:30
durt!porn09:31
ubotudurt: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:31
h0sl3rok09:31
topylih0sl3r: mandrake probably uses bootsplash, which is a bit more advanced and may be hard to get working09:31
rustybucketrustybucket wants to know about man pages09:31
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kamikazespongewaaah finally the dh params are finished :|09:32
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h0sl3rtopyli: where can i get these?09:32
bytefoogensplash is the best :-/09:32
bytefooit supports animation :|09:32
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topylih0sl3r: oh i don't know. i guess they have home pages on the web ;)09:32
h0sl3rok09:32
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topylipersonally i like to see all the init scripts print OK's there :)09:34
vader1102Weems are you having a problem staying connected?09:34
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Weemsno09:34
WeemsI was getting rid of the white xchat background09:34
vader1102lol ok,09:35
Weemsand I was having trouble, but I fixed it :D09:35
h0sl3rSynaptic doesnt have my kernel source avaliable for download. Where can I get it?09:35
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RageLinkXis there a way to re-install ubuntu without reformatting?09:36
vader1102h0l3r; wish I could help you09:36
h0sl3r:/09:37
funkyHatRageLinkX, why do you want to reinstall ubuntu?09:37
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RageLinkXmy Gnome is not working09:37
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funkyHatRageLinkX, have you tried reinstalling gnome?09:37
RageLinkXfunkyHat: i can log in... but then nothing09:37
RageLinkXyeah09:38
RageLinkXapt-get remove gdm09:38
RageLinkXsorta thing09:38
funkyHathave you tried removing all the gnome related folders in your ~ directory?09:38
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funkyHatRageLinkX, gdm isn't gnome09:38
RageLinkXyeah09:38
RageLinkXoh09:38
RageLinkXtell me then09:38
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funkyHatthat's the login thing09:39
funkyHatgnome display manager09:39
RageLinkXahh09:39
RageLinkXso whats the Gmome [ackage then09:39
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RageLinkXplease09:39
funkyHati'm just looking09:39
funkyHat:)09:39
funkyHatgnome-desktop-environment09:40
RageLinkX8-)09:40
RageLinkXok ill give it a shot09:40
RageLinkXbrb either way09:40
funkyHatyou may have to remove other stuff too09:40
RageLinkXsure09:40
RageLinkXwill do09:40
funkyHatah, sorry, it's not that :(09:40
funkyHatthat's not installed on my system09:40
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funkyHatubuntu-desktop will install everything in gnome, but it won't remove it again if you remove that package... it's just a set of dependencies09:42
cemcwhat is better, dpkg or aptitude?09:42
funkyHatcemc, which ever one you prefer09:43
cemcehe :)09:43
zenlunaticaptitude09:43
zenlunaticdpkg09:43
Chousukecemc: aptitude is a frontend to dpkg09:43
Chousukeand it takes care of the dependencies.09:44
Chousukeand installs from apt-sources.09:44
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Chousukeso your question was a bit weird.09:44
cemchm, i thought aptitude and dpkg are frontends for apt :)09:45
mirak_I am rying breezy, and Totem still sucks bollocks09:45
Chousukeno, apt and aptitude and dselect and tasksel are frontends to dpkg09:45
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funkyHatChousuke, dpkg is also a frontend, but you are right that they do different things09:45
Chousukeaptitude is the best IMO.09:45
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ChousukefunkyHat: dpkg is a frontend to what?09:46
Chousukedpkg is the package manager :P09:46
Chousukelike rpm09:46
cemcwhich one is the actual package manager? :)09:46
cemcaha09:46
Chousukedpkg.09:46
cemcok09:46
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cemcand apt ?09:46
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funkyHat;)09:46
cemcapt is anoter package manager?09:47
cemcanother09:47
Chousukecemc: apt (the various apt-tools) are frontends to the package manager.09:47
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cemcyou mean to dpkg ?09:48
funkyHataptitude is a framebuffer program that serves the same process as synaptic09:48
Chousukethey handle fetching the packages from the net and they also check dependencies and try to satisfy them.09:48
Chousukeaptitude is basically same as apt, except it's just one tool and it has an optional curses based interface.09:48
funkyHat*purpose09:48
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Chousukeand synaptic is yet another dpkg frontend, this time with a GTK GUI09:49
jrattner1Im having trouble accessing my mounted NTFS partition because i can not su to root in ubuntu09:49
jrattner1any suggestions?09:49
Chousukebut all of these frontends use dpkg to actually install the packages :)09:49
Chousukeand synaptic in fact uses apt-get to download the packages iirc :P09:49
cemc       APT is a management system for software packages.  It is still under development; the snazzy front ends are not yet available.  In the meantime, please see apt-get(8).09:49
jrattner1/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user              0           009:50
jrattner1Why wouldnt that work?09:50
Chousukeyeah, it manages dependencies.09:50
Chousukebut it installs the packages using dpkg :)09:50
funkyHatjrattner1, add ,uid=1000,gid=100 after 'user'09:50
cemcuhh :) brrr :)09:50
jrattner1/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user,uid=1000,gid=100              0           009:51
jrattner1like that funkyHat ?09:51
funkyHatyep09:51
jrattner1funkyHat, do i have to reboot for it to get remounted or how do i test it with my new corrections?09:51
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Chousukehaa.09:51
funkyHator replace 1000 with your login(your uid is 1000), (and 100 is users)09:51
Chousukeapt joined. ask him :P09:51
cemc:)09:51
funkyHatjrattner1, to test it, do sudo umount /dev/hda109:52
funkyHatand then sudo mount -a09:52
ChousukeAptGet: Do you have super cow powers?09:52
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cemcor sudo mount /mnt/windows09:52
AptGetChousuke: i sure do09:52
jrattner1funkyHat, it says my GID is 1000 according to the id command09:52
ChousukeCool.09:52
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funkyHatyes, your gid is 1000, but a more useful configuration may be to set the gid to 'users' (which is 100)09:53
jrattner1funkyHat, ok sounds good09:53
cemcso dpkg does not handle dependencies ?09:53
funkyHatif you want the gid to be you, then 1000 would be correct09:53
cemcit just installs the .debs ?09:53
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cute_bettongi'm haveing some sound isshues can anyone help?09:53
funkyHatcemc, it will just complain that there are unresolved deps09:53
AptGetcemc: no it does not.........but if you have dependencies apt-get -f install will install them09:53
funkyHatcute_bettong, just ask09:53
RageLinkXwell folks... re-installing time09:54
RageLinkXthanks09:54
jrattner1funkyHat, great it worked thank you09:54
Dr_MelectausCould someone tell me how i mount a flash card (think thats what they are called) its a small blue memory card about the size of 2 simcards09:54
RageLinkXsee yas in a bit09:54
funkyHatnp09:54
kamikazespongecemc: where do i put the server.conf file?09:54
RageLinkX20 mins TOPS09:54
Dr_MelectausIts from a digi cam09:54
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cemckamikazesponge: how did you compile openvpn ?09:55
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kamikazespongecemc: just ./configure, make, make install09:55
cemckamikazesponge: did you specify any install directory ?09:55
cemcaha09:55
zeus1_my usb headset is not appearing in the device manager anyone know how to fix...this could be the source of my sound issues09:55
cemckamikazesponge: then, i guess try it in /etc/openvpn/server.conf09:55
kamikazespongeok09:55
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: do you have a card reader? I've seen a compact flash reader that plugs into the usb port09:55
cute_bettongok when i click system>prefrences> multimedia audio selector....and then run the audio test using the defualt soruce no sound come out but when i test the default sink i get a tone how come no matter what i do i can't get sound from the default source?09:55
Dr_MelectausHappyFool, its built into my laptop, so yea09:56
Dr_Melectausand when i had windows on this laptop it read it09:56
Dr_MelectausSo the device functions09:56
kamikazespongecemc: that dir doesnt exist09:56
Dr_MelectausJust it isnt auto mounting HappyFool09:56
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: ok, what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say when the card is plugged in?09:56
funkyHatDr_Melectaus, does your card reader have a line/lines in fstab?09:56
cute_bettonganyone know?09:56
topylikamikazesponge: it doesn't after a clean install. neither does the init script IIRC09:56
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: i presume you know not to paste here09:56
ChousukeDr_Melectaus: some builtin SD card readers aren't supported09:57
Dr_MelectausfunkyHat, i dont know09:57
Chousukedunno if yours is.09:57
kamikazespongecemc: but in windows i had a 'config' dir, do i just put the conf file in the base-dir of openvpn?09:57
cemckamikazesponge: create it09:57
kamikazespongeok09:57
cemcand see if it works...09:57
Dr_Melectaushow do you mean not to paste here?09:57
HappyFoolas in the output of fdisk -l ;)09:57
cemci installed it from an rpm...09:57
Dr_Melectausahh09:57
cemcso i don't really know where to put is ...09:57
HappyFoolone or two lines is ok, otherwise, use the pastebin09:57
Dr_MelectausHappyFool, ill pm you09:57
kamikazespongecemc: that's mean :P09:57
cemcit*09:57
HappyFoolpm is ok too09:58
kamikazespongecemc: i had to compile it from scratch09:58
funkyHatDr_Melectaus, put it in #flood or pastebin09:58
funkyHatthen others can help09:58
funkyHat!pastebin09:58
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:58
cemckamikazesponge: well...09:58
HappyFoolyeah, fair enough09:58
cemckamikazesponge: try making a .deb09:58
cemc:)09:58
cute_bettongso anyone know?09:58
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kamikazespongecemc: how do i do that?09:58
cemci have no idea :)09:58
kamikazespongelol09:58
jrattner1Can you play m4p from xmms?09:58
zeus1_my usb headset is not appearing in the device manager anyone know how to fix...this could be the source of my sound issues09:58
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Dr_MelectausHappyFool, / funkyHat i put it in flood09:59
cemci dont know what installs a .deb yet :))09:59
cemchehe09:59
HappyFoolheh. you need to tell us (me, anyway) before you do that09:59
HappyFoolcould you paste it again?09:59
Dr_MelectausHappyFool,09:59
Dr_Melectausin flood09:59
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: i wasn't in #flood10:00
cemcfunkyHat: soo... dpkg = rpm, right ?10:00
Dr_Melectausahhh sorry happy10:00
funkyHatcemc, pretty much10:00
cemcso, i can install, remove packages with dpkg,10:00
cemcand it will complain if a package needs another one10:00
cemcit won't install it, it will merely complain, right?10:01
linuxboycemc: yip10:01
funkyHatyep10:01
linuxboyI think you can force it though10:01
Dr_MelectausHappyFool, there. its pasted :)10:01
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HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: doesn't look like the card is there10:01
cemcthen if i want to install package X, which depends on package Y,10:01
cemci have to download it myself,10:01
cemcthen i can install them both,10:01
linuxboycemc: no, use apt-get10:01
cemcat the same time10:01
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cemcright ?10:01
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: how about   dmesg|tail10:01
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topylicemc: normally you use apt-get and forget about dependencies10:02
zeus1_my usb headset is not appearing in the device manager anyone know how to fix...this could be the source of my sound issues10:02
cemcso.. apt = yum10:02
topylisomething like that10:02
Dr_MelectausHappyFool, in flood10:02
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cemcso i can do without any apt, and nautilus and stuff, just with dpkg, if i handle the dependencies manually10:03
Dr_Melectausthere i pasted it in flood haakonn10:03
Dr_MelectausHappyFool, **10:03
topylicemc: and synaptic is like the Foo Software Management Center that distros tend to have too10:03
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: yeah, i see10:03
Dr_MelectausCool10:04
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: did you plug your card in after bootup?10:04
topylicemc: sure, but nobody does that10:04
Dr_Melectausyes happy10:04
Dr_MelectausHappyFool, **10:04
cemctopyli: yeah, well... in fedora i'm using mainly rpm only... and handle the dependencies manually10:04
cemctopyli: i thought so ;)10:04
jrattner1how do you  play m4p with XMMS?10:04
Dr_MelectausHappyFoo: does it only check for flash cards when it boots?10:04
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: ok, dmesg says nothing about it; my guess is your card reader is not supported, but i can't be sure10:04
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: i don't know, but i doubt it10:05
Dr_MelectausOk10:05
Dr_MelectausCheers happy10:05
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: however, when devices are plugged in, something usually happens in dmesg10:05
zeus1_my usb headset is not appearing in the device manager anyone know how to fix...this could be the source of my sound issues10:05
HappyFoolDr_Melectaus: maybe google for info on your laptop model and linux, or go here (see ubotu below)10:05
HappyFool!laptop10:06
ubotuhmm... laptop is http://www.linux-laptop.net/10:06
Dr_Melectauscheers HappyFool10:06
HappyFoolright, i must be off. sleep time. good night10:06
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kamikazesponge500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket10:09
kamikazespongeoops10:09
kamikazespongedunno what happened, but it wasn't supposed to send it yet.. but what i wanted to say is that when i start vsftpd i get this error10:10
kamikazespongeanyone know how to fix this?10:10
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ompaulkamikazesponge, that does not wash well, try this instead :)  http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum40/1190.htm10:12
zeus1_my usb headset is not appearing in the device manager anyone know how to fix...this could be the source of my sound issues10:12
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kemikkamikazesponge:  could be a number of reasons.. are you NIC(s) properly setup ? isit a portnumber > 1024 ?10:12
kamikazespongeit is running root kemik10:13
cemckamikazesponge: it could be that there is another ftp server running already10:13
kemikwell then >1024 isnt a problem ;)10:13
cemchm?10:13
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kemikdo a netstat | grep port#10:13
kemiksee if it's in use already10:13
zeus1_godd why wont anyone help10:13
ompaulport 2110:14
kamikazespongehmm no servers running on 2110:14
pussfelleranyone found a usb 2 pci-card that works with ubuntu10:14
cemckamikazesponge:  ps ax | grep ftp10:14
ompaulzeus1_, because maybe no body understands udev and sound10:14
cemc?10:14
zeus1_damn it :(10:14
kamikazespongecemc: nope :(10:14
zeus1_i would have thought such an amazing OS would not have a problem with something as simple as common as sound10:15
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hondjeit's not simple :)10:15
kamikazespongezeus1_: it's not the sound-server? i've read that arts messes things up sometimes10:15
hondjeThat's why no one understands it lol10:15
zeus1_sound serveR?10:15
zeus1_where is the sound server10:16
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kamikazespongezeus1_: dunno, sudo ps x|grep arts ?10:16
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kamikazespongecemc: i'm trying samba now but i don't know how to connect to that in windows10:17
zeus1_h/o i will try10:17
cemckamikazesponge: what do you mean?10:18
cemcyou have something shared in windows?10:18
cemcand you want to mount it in linux ?10:18
cemcor vice versa?10:18
zeus1_kamikazie...that command just asked me for my password and then did nothing10:18
kamikazespongecemc: vice versa10:18
thrushzeus1: did you try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18926 yet?10:18
cemckamikazesponge: is smbd running?10:19
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cemcdid you specify a share in /etc/samba/smb.conf,10:19
Xyleneis there a way to stop the ubuntu update program from starting when gnome starts?10:19
cemcor whatever10:19
zeus1_thrush: yes....I did it but it didnt detect my usb headset10:19
kamikazespongezeus1_: my name is not kamikazie. but it should ask for your password10:19
cemcXylene: right click on the icon, settings ?10:19
Xylenei didn't see anything there about disabling it10:20
zeus1_it did10:20
zeus1_now wat did it do10:20
kemikkamikazesponge:  need to edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf, run the samba daemon, and login from your windowsmachine to your linux-samba-share10:20
kamikazespongecemc: it's running, but i didn't edit smb.conf yet. i connected to it in windows with run: \\192.168.2.107 and it asked me for a password, so i used root-login because that's where the things i wanted to copy to my box are.. and it just told me my login didn't work10:20
Raskallcemc, zeus1 : agh.. this is frustrating. Here I have been struggling all weekend migrating from tdbsam to ldap backend in samba on a server named zeus.. the two of you are frustrating me. ;) (just kidding)10:20
kamikazespongei'm now going to edit my smb.conf10:20
Raskallcemc, zeus1: so smb.conf and zeus are triggers for my bad mood this weekend. :)10:21
cemckamikazesponge: if u dont need user level security,10:21
zeus1_what lol10:21
zeus1_idk10:21
zeus1_how do u make sound work on linux10:21
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funkyHat!sound10:22
ubotumethinks sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/10:22
zeus1_in usb head phones10:22
cemckamikazesponge: change the    security = to    security = share10:22
zeus1_thanks but i read that already10:22
zeus1_anyway brb10:22
kamikazespongeok10:22
funkyHatzeus1_, search this page http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=All#matrix for your device10:22
cemckamikazesponge: then, theoretically you don't have to specify any user10:22
kamikazespongeok10:22
cemcRaskall: sorry about that :)10:22
kamikazespongeok, now how do i restart smb ^^;;10:23
Raskallcemc: :) you couldn't know.10:23
kamikazespongewith fedora i could just service smb restart..10:23
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cemckamikazesponge: /etc/init.d/smbd restart ?10:23
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Raskall7ignore all *smb*10:23
Raskallagh..10:23
cemc:)10:23
Homerr'lo people10:24
Raskallwonder if the migration tomorrow will be as seamless as I hope.10:24
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Homerrneed some help over here with ubuntu installation, refusing to boot after10:24
Homerrany takers?10:24
cemcHomerr: any errors ?10:24
Homerr"error loading operating system" is all im getting, done a re install but its doing the same10:24
funkyHatHomerr, can we have some more info? do you have another operating system too?10:24
kamikazespongecemc: ok, i got further, but i'm only seeing a printer10:24
Homerryep, xp pro10:24
RaskallHomerr: you might get better response if you tell us where it stops booting and what errors you get10:24
kamikazespongecemc: is there a way to share stuff or something, to make them show up10:25
cemckamikazesponge: you have to specify some share,10:25
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Homerrstops booting where it should be loading the boot record id imagine10:25
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jamie_1that was weird10:25
cemckamikazesponge: look at the examples,10:25
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cemcin the .conf10:25
jamie_1how do you add java?10:25
cemcat the end10:25
Homerrsooo not sure what to do to fix it :/10:25
funkyHatHomerr, re run the ubuntu installer, only this time make sure the boot label is on your XP partition (change it back)10:25
funkyHat:)10:25
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HomerrfunkyHat did that, still doing it10:25
Homerrit didnt give an option either way :/10:26
cemcHomerr: where did you install grub ?10:26
funkyHatodd...10:26
Homerrhdb, drive where windows is and with the boot record10:26
cemcuhh :)10:26
cemchdb?10:26
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cemcwhat's with hda ?10:26
Raskallkamikazesponge: forget that service smb restart thing. That is some bullshit redhat/fedora has that no other linux has. all other linuxes control services by running the scripts in /etc/init.d/ with parameters start, stop, restart and status (and more on some services)10:26
Homerrno idea i dont know where on earth hda went10:26
jamie_1does anyone know how to install Java?!?!?10:26
topylijamie_1: see below:10:26
topyli!java10:27
ubotuwell, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java10:27
funkyHatcemc, does it matter :P10:27
cemcwell...10:27
Homerrill have another look though10:27
cemci dunno, does it? :)10:27
kemikcemc:  he has his harddrive connected to the slave on IDE channel110:27
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kamikazespongeRaskall: ok10:27
funkyHatHomerr, put grub in /boot/grub10:27
Raskallkamikazesponge: just a friendly hint. :)10:27
funkyHaton your linux partition10:27
cemcHomerr: you have one harddrive?10:27
Homerr310:27
kemikcemc:  think of how HDx correlates to hardware.10:27
cemchehe :)10:27
dvhartI can't seem to get my pcmcia ide adapter to show up in Nautius  when plugged in.  The devices is registered in /var/log/messages and hal-device-manager can see it.  If I mount it manually it shows up in Nautilus.10:27
kamikazespongeRaskall: i apreciate it, i'm from fedora <g>10:27
kemikcemc:  dont give him advice until you realize how this works10:27
cemcHomerr: maybe it's trying to boot from hda :)10:27
Raskallkamikazesponge: sadly I have gotten used to using the service command on the machines at work.10:28
Homerrmust be... just noticed something though the drive with windows on is runnig at ata33... wtf heh10:28
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kemikcemc:  see, the IDE controller has usually 2 channels per "port" (i dont know the correct terminology and im too lazy to google it right now)10:28
Homerrsomething else i need to fix, either way10:28
kamikazespongeRaskall: gheh10:28
cemcHomerr: have you any harddrive on primary master?10:28
Homerrdvdrw is primary master10:28
Homerrwindows drive is primary secondary10:28
pfpouch10:29
kemikso its hdb10:29
Homerrdrive im installing ubuntu to is secondary master10:29
cemcyou mean primary slave10:29
Homerryeah10:29
Raskallkamikazesponge: so I always have to do everything twice when I get home to my ubuntu network.10:29
cemcso hdc10:29
cemc:)10:29
cemchda = dvrw10:29
cemchdb = wind10:29
Homerrsorry for being silly atm, looong day10:29
cemchdc = ubuntu ?10:29
kemikyes10:29
Homerryeah10:29
kamikazespongeRaskall: heh10:29
ksmurfI'm using breezy and this is the error I'm getting when I try and use sudo gedit.... any solution? http://pastebin.com/34864010:29
kamikazespongecemc: i don't get it..10:30
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pfpfolklore (and possibly something else too) says that optical drives should be slave, if there's a hard rive on the same cable10:30
kamikazespongecemc: i can remember there being a way to add samba user status or something to a user on fedora..10:30
cemckamikazesponge: you don't get what?10:30
zeus1_funkyhat....is there support for headsets there too10:30
Homerrif i booted off the livecd is there anything i could do from that to fix this? maybe something in the grub confs10:30
funkyHatzeus1_, the headset is a 'soundcard' so yes10:30
kemikHomerr:  you installed ubuntu after you've installed Windows right?10:30
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Homerryup10:31
kamikazespongecemc: i vaguely remember some things but it's all getting a blur :P10:31
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zeus1_my speaker sound works....but I do not see my head set vendor there10:31
zeus1_there called Plantronics10:31
jamie_1is irc actually mirc?10:31
Homerrno10:31
Homerrmirc is a client10:31
Homerra crap one at that :p10:31
i58Homerr, check your bios and make sure the boot order is HD then DVD.10:31
Homerryup it is i5810:31
kemikHomerr:  try pasting your menu.lst on pastebin10:31
kemik( its in /boot/grub/menu.lst )10:31
kemikerh btw Homerr the bootloader doesnt even load ?10:32
Homerrit doesnt appear to be, its just saying error loading operating system after post10:32
jamie_1then how do i talk to others on mirc with gaim?10:32
zeus1_funkyhat is there another way to get it to work since i dont see my vendor (plantronics) on there10:32
cemc[23:24:44]  <Homerr> "error loading operating system" is all im getting, done a re install but its doing the same10:32
kemikah.. i should goto bed :)10:32
Homerrhehe10:33
funkyHatzeus1_, you may need to search for the maker of the chip, not your particular device10:33
cemcHomerr,10:33
ompauljamie_1, that is all organised at server level10:33
cemcin the BIOS,10:33
zeus1_oh10:33
cemcwhat is the boot order?10:33
cemcexactly?10:33
zeus1_I use nvidia soundforce10:33
zeus1_is that what u mean funkyhat10:33
cemcis there any HDD-0, HDD-1 ?10:33
cemcor just HDD ?10:33
cemcor what ?10:33
jamie_1ompaul: ... what do i have to do though?10:33
ompauljamie_1, you attach to the same servers you attached to before10:33
cemccould it be that ?10:33
ksmurfanyone know why I can't run sudo gedit in breezy?10:33
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HomerrCDROM -> HDD > CDROM > Disabled10:33
funkyHatzeus1_, that is your other soundcard, so no. your USB headset is actually a completely separate sound device10:34
kemikcemc:  it could be that, im not sure where grub installs itself10:34
ompauljamie_1, well for one identify what server you were attaching to, for two find the IRC channel10:34
Lefungushello, I was wondering if it was safe to use backports repository ?10:34
jamie_1ompaul: what server i was attached to. what does that mean i have to do10:34
ksmurfdefine sfae10:34
ksmurfsafe10:34
zeus1_funkyhat : my headset came with its own drivers that only work on mac/windows10:34
kemikHomerr:  usually you have the option to specify exactly which drive you want to boot from (ie: hdd0,1,2,3 sort of)10:34
funkyHatzeus1_, that is normal for most hardware ;)10:34
zeus1_so wait10:34
ompauljamie_1, when mirc started you choose a 'place' to connect to what was that?10:34
Lefungussafe= "no weird crap happening to ubuntu packages, bugs are only on new packages"10:35
kamikazespongei must be going.. thanks for the help everyone10:35
zeus1_funkyhat hwo do I no which one to get for my USB headset then10:35
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Homerrkemik in the setup?10:35
jamie_1ompaul: um...... i don't use mirc. i use gaim10:35
Dadoespretty much Lefungus10:35
cemcHomerr: yes10:35
Lefungusexample, I added the repository, and it wants to update libgcc110:35
kamikazespongecemc: i'll let you know about openvpn when i get it working10:35
Homerrill re install again, you guys talking about the grub part of the setup?10:35
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cemckamikazesponge: okk10:35
cemcHomerr: no10:35
funkyHatzeus1_, go to system > administration > device manager and find the headset (it will be under the USB hub and stuff in the tree)10:35
kemikHomerr:  yea in BIOS setup you  usualy get to specify which device to start from..10:36
DadoesLefungus, if something goes wrong you can always delete the repository and go back to the old version10:36
Lefungushmm, yes10:36
Homerronly has hdd/cdrom10:36
quintenhey, anyone know how to tell GRUB to boot windows from a slave drive?10:36
Lefungusit also wants to update synaptic10:36
ompauljamie_1, meet me half way here you said 'then how do i talk to others on mirc with gaim?' what server are these people using that you want to attach to?10:36
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zeus1_funkyhat, my headset is not in device manager...10:36
DadoesI just did that today Lefungus, worked fine10:36
Homerryeah its only hard disk / cd rom etc10:37
Homerrnothing specific10:37
quintenthe slave drive's MBR is set to boot windows, but of course, windows doesn't want to boot as a slave. i learned a trick a while ago for lilo, but haven't figured it out for grub10:37
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SymGeosisAnybody here use Gajim?10:37
ksmurfany ideas?10:37
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cemcquinten: something like title Windoz10:37
cemc        rootnoverify (hd1,0)10:37
cemc        chainloader +110:37
ompauljamie_1, if you click on chat maybe that gives you a clue to what info  you need, because that is what you want to use10:37
kemikHomerr:  ah well.. perhaps it goes through them in an ordered fashion.. im out of ideas for tonight10:37
jamie_1ompaul: the person says they are using aceirc10:37
KyralYanno thats annoying10:37
Homerryeah it dos kemik10:37
Homerrdoes even10:37
funkyHatzeus1_, did you find your USB  controller?10:37
Homerrim out of ideas *duuuuuuh*10:37
jamie_1SymGeosis: i do10:38
ompauljamie_1, and what is the server name?10:38
funkyHat(you may have more than one, check inside them all)10:38
Kyralseeing as I register via script10:38
SymGeosisjamie_1, do you know of a way so that offline contacts from say AIM or ICQ don't up?10:38
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cemcHomerr: i'm not a pro... but i would say you better put a harddisk on primary master... and not the dvdrw... (imho)10:38
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Weemshow can I remove and reinstall firefox?10:38
zeus1_funkyhat: i see 2 nForce2 USB controllers10:38
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jamie_1SymGeosis: Don't show up, you mean?10:38
Homerrcemc i cant with the way this case is :/10:38
SymGeosisjamie_1, exactly.10:38
cemcHomerr: suxx...10:39
kemikcemc:  it shouldnt matter though10:39
cemcand you sure you installed grub in hdb ?10:39
Homerryup10:39
EasterSunshinei have broked my kubuntu, i am going to reinstall ubuntu10:39
jamie_1SymGeosis: Go to Buddies, go down, and find10:39
cemckemik: well... no, it shouldn't...10:39
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EasterSunshineis there any disadvantage in server installing ubuntu, and then instaling kubuntu-desktop?10:39
cemchmmm...10:39
Dadoesnope, it's just more work :)10:39
cemccan it be,10:39
ompaulEasterSunshine, no as long as you have bandwitdh10:39
cemcthat it tries to boot from hdc ?10:40
cemcsecondary _master_ ?10:40
cemci mean,10:40
jamie_1SymGeosis: offline buddies, and click it. it should shut out all the offline ones, and ompaul: aceirc is what it is10:40
cemcprimary master -> secondary master -> primary slave -> sec. slave10:40
cemcin that order10:40
Homerrmust be but im not sure10:40
cemcmaybe you should try to install grub on hdc ...10:40
Homerrhmm10:40
Homerrdo you get an option to?10:40
EasterSunshineompaul: do you know around how much i will have to dl?10:40
kemiksilly BIOS if it's that10:40
EasterSunshineompaul: i just dled 240 mb approx to install gnome over kubuntu...10:40
kemikit should go through them and display that messge only if it comes up empty on all drives10:40
Dadoesany experts on alsa and .asoundrc around?10:41
SymGeosisjamie_1, that option only seems to work for my Jabber contacts. Unless I somehow mis-understand you.10:41
user1Anyone tried installing ORACLE on Ubuntu? I got the installer ruinning but ran into linking errors...10:41
ompaulEasterSunshine, what did you do that for?10:41
ompaulEasterSunshine, don't answer that10:41
cemckemik: hm... that's right too...10:41
cemchehh10:41
LefungusDadoes, using those repositories won't create issues when I'll upgrade to breezy using dist-upgrade ?10:41
SymGeosisjamie_1, are you talking about the "Show offline buddies" option in the main menu?10:41
bur[n] eranyone familiar enough with rhythmbox to help me fix it?  i'm using breezy... i've tried apt-get --purge remove rhythmbox; rm -rf ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox; apt-get install rhythmbox but that doesn't work.  I know rhythmbox in breezy should work as it does on my laptop, so maybe it'sa dpkg-reconfigure of some package?  Basically, rhythmbox starts, then dies without loading the gui and without displaying any term output10:41
jamie_1SymGeosis: yes, that is the one10:41
Homerrcemc in the grub part you get the option to change which drive it installs grub to?10:41
Dadoesthat I have not tested Lefungus, but most likely the packages will be the same10:41
SymGeosisHm, well I've tried that several times. It only seems to work for my Jabber contacts not my AIM or Yahoo ones.10:42
Lefungusbur[n] er, rhythmbox is currently broken in breezy10:42
ompauljamie_1, so click on chat and type in irc.aceirc.org or one of the links from this http://www.aceirc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11&Itemid=33 cheers10:42
SymGeosisThis is *annoying*.10:42
cemcHomerr: hm, that's a good question10:42
jamie_1ompaul: the person says aceirc as the server, and SymGeosis: I have no idea then10:42
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bur[n] erLefungus: thanks... odd it works on my laptop?  oh well, i'll just wait... thanks again10:42
ompaulEasterSunshine, no idea if you have *DSL then it should be okay - bit of time but okay10:42
Homerrim totally stumped by this :(10:43
ompauljamie_1, its kind of obvious10:43
quintenno, it's not enough to just use the chainloader +1, that's what i have now... with lilo i had to copy the boot sector to a specific location10:43
Lefungusbur[n] er, at least, it was broken on my laptop10:43
ompaulHomerr, tell me this can you boot using a live CD ?10:43
zeus1_funkyhat u there....10:43
Homerryes ompaul10:43
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ompaulHomerr, are you doing that at the moment?10:43
bur[n] erLefungus: as long as it's broken for you too, i feel ok ;)10:43
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Homerrno10:44
Homerrwant me to throw the livecd in?10:44
funkyHatzeus1_, yea, sorry, try unplugging the headset and plugging it in while the device manager is still running10:44
bytefoohey, how can i see the version of a driver? I want to make sure I have 1.06 for ipw220010:44
zeus1_got it10:44
zeus1_i mean10:44
zeus1_h/o i wil try that10:44
ttyS0Hi. I've a problem with Kylix on my Hoary. It works but after compilation (after "Linking..." text displayed) Kylix freezes. I'm using Kylix 3 Open Edition. So can anybody help me?10:44
ompaulHomerr, yeah if you can get a network connection it might be very useful10:44
Homerrone sec10:44
cemcbytefoo: try modinfo ipw220010:45
cemcmaybe...10:45
bytefoothanks yeah10:45
bytefooit shows it as 0.19 though10:45
bytefoothat can't be right :X10:45
Homerrstarting it now10:45
Lefungusand is it possible to remove the authentification warning when using the backports repositories ?10:45
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cemcbytefoo: then,10:45
cemctry to load the module,10:46
cemcmodprobe ipw2200, and look at dmesg output...10:46
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zeus1_funkyhat...I dont see it still10:46
bur[n] erbytefoo: dmesg | grep ipw10:46
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zeus1_in the deivice manage10:46
funkyHat:(10:46
bytefooyeah, it showed nothing10:47
bytefoo:X10:47
bur[n] eraww, too bad10:47
bytefoo:/10:47
=== bur[n] er isn't sure how then
cemcbytefoo: you did the modprobe thing ?10:47
bytefooyeh10:47
zeus1_so what now funkyhat10:47
bur[n] erbytefoo: just compile the ipw yourself?10:47
bytefoobytefoo@junx:~$ modprobe ipw220010:47
bytefoobytefoo@junx:~$ dmesg | grep ipw10:47
bytefoobytefoo@junx:~$10:47
funkyHati don't know zeus1_ sorry :(10:47
bytefooif i wanted to compile it myself i wouldnt use ubuntu :-/10:47
cemcbytefoo: give only dmesg,10:47
cemcand look at the end10:48
zeus1_nooooo goddd damn it!!! im so screwed10:48
bur[n] erbytefoo: sudo modprobe?10:48
bytefoowhoah :-/10:48
bytefoodmesg has mad hdc errors :X10:48
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Homerrboooork10:48
bur[n] erheh10:48
cemc:)10:48
zeus1_how do i make sound work in linux anyone10:48
cemcit happens :) nothing with ipw ?10:48
bur[n] erzeus1_: didn't automagically work?10:48
bytefoonope nothing10:48
bytefoobut it is working though, which is odd10:49
bytefooi mean it has associated itself with an access point10:49
ompaulzeus1_, the answer is available your just not looking in the right place, go take a walk and a glass of water or some such, then come back insult google with some new question10:49
ompaulzeus1_, it can be done10:49
cemcbytefoo: look in /proc/net/wireless something ...10:49
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ompaulzeus1_, start with a list of your hardware and check it out with the words Linux audio and you might get somewhere10:50
Jhairconsider the following http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169710:50
bytefoonah cemc, that's just link info like # of packets, signal strength, etc10:50
ompaulHomerr, what was with the boooork ?10:50
Jhairwhy does B) show 1000 instead of my username?10:50
ttyS0so noone uses kylix?10:50
EasterSunshineJhair: 1000 is your user id10:50
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Homer|ubuntuon livecd ompaul10:51
JhairEasterSunshine, yes I know but I don't know why ps doesn't show my username as it should...10:51
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EasterSunshineJhair: every user on your machine has a uid associated with it, real users start numbering from 1000, everything under that is reserved for like root, admin, stuff like that10:51
JhairI suspect a library is missing, but I am not sure10:51
Homer|ubuntuwhat shall i do now?10:51
cemcJhair: ps efu | grep ... ?10:51
JhairEasterSunshine, if you run ps -ef on your machine you see uids or the username10:51
Jhaircemc, ps efu still shows the uid10:52
EasterSunshineJhair: below 1000, i see the uname, but otherwise, i see 100010:52
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ompaulHomer|ubuntu, so fdisk -l and put that in pastebin10:52
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EasterSunshineJhair: so i see like root, postfix, daemon, then 1000 under the uid column10:53
cute_bettong>.<10:53
cute_bettongmy sound is still messed up10:53
cemcJhair: id jtocanci10:53
cemc?10:53
Homer|ubuntugot nothing back ompaul, sudo?10:53
cute_bettongand i don't know what to do10:53
JhairI see, so it seems the behaviour of ps is OK , then10:53
Homer|ubuntuyup sudo worked10:53
Jhaircemc, uid=100010:53
ompaulHomer|ubuntu, go for it :)10:53
radpHow can I install xmms and amsn using apt-get???10:53
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Jhairis this anywhere documented, I will look in the man page...10:53
Homer|ubuntuompaul http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/169810:54
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zeus1_ompaul: how do you do that10:54
radpHow can I install xmms and amsn using apt-get???10:54
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cemcHomer|ubuntu: grub.conf ?10:54
segfaultedradp,  apt-get install xmms amsn10:54
Raskallradp: i thought xmms was installed by default. But if not you can find info about the repositories at www.ubuntuguide.org10:55
EasterSunshineradp: something like $ sudo apt-get install xmms amsn10:55
Homer|ubuntuis in /boot right cemc, and will i need to mount hdc to get to it?10:55
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EasterSunshineubotu tell Raskall about ubuntuguide10:55
JamminBearcwhere do I find yast 2 to install my cc and gcc10:55
JamminBear?10:55
cute_bettonganyone know anything about getting a c-media CMI8738 6ch-MX to work right?10:55
cemcHomer|ubuntu: yepp10:55
thoreauputicJamminBear: you don't - this isn't SuSE10:55
RaskallEasterSunshine: I know about ubuntuguide.10:55
ompaulHomer|ubuntu, also the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst10:56
JamminBearthats right10:56
JamminBearlol10:56
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Kyralcute_bettong, mine works right now10:56
JamminBearwrong linux10:56
JamminBearhaha10:56
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ompaul!guide10:56
ubotuompaul: I give up, what is it?10:56
Homer|ubuntuk sec, cemc whats the syntax to mount again, mount ext3 /dev/hdc /path/to/mount right?10:56
thoreauputicJamminBear: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:56
ompaul!ubuntuguide10:56
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.10:56
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EasterSunshineJamminBear: to install cc and gcc, do $ sudo apt-get install build-essential10:56
cemcHomer|ubuntu: mount /dev/hdc1 /path/to/mount10:56
EasterSunshineRaskall: i was showing you the part that says "Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide."10:56
JamminBearhmmmm10:57
JamminBearbrb10:57
ompaulzeus1_, do what?10:57
radpsegfaulted, It says that cant find the package10:57
JamminBeardo I need root term?10:57
thoreauputic!tell radp about repos10:57
cute_bettongKyral how does it work mines onboard and does not work right10:57
Dadoesanyone with a Terratec Aureon Space here?10:57
Lefungusme10:57
zeus1_nvm10:57
cute_bettongit's an asus A7S333 motherboard10:57
segfaultedradp,  ok. you must be sure that you use universe repository. check /etc/apt/sources.list for that10:57
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Kyralcute_bettong, oh...mine the soundcard kind10:58
DadoesLefungus, is it working? ;)10:58
biffyjodoes anyone here use xfce? if so, does Tomboy work with it (or any other minimalist window-thingies?)10:58
RageLinkXYEY meeeee10:58
RaskallEasterSunshine: ok.. but I find ubuntuguide quite good for a lot of the people I have enlisted as ubuntu users. why is it wrong to refer to that?10:58
segfaultedradp,  then apt-get update10:58
ompaulHomer|ubuntu, if you don't use my name its is unlikey I will see your question :) and your right10:58
Homer|ubuntucemc http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1699 menu.lst10:58
cemcJhair: hm, that's odd... here on my ubuntu, ps shows uid for messagebus user10:58
cute_bettongdamnit i can't get this thing to run10:58
LefungusDadoes, yes, but I didn't try on ubuntu10:58
Kyral!samba10:58
ubotuhmm... samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently10:58
LefungusDadoes, what's the issue ?10:58
cute_bettongand it's driveing me nuts10:58
segfaultedradp,  and after that sudo apt-get install amsn (sudo might be needed and to the other commands)10:58
Homer|ubuntuwheres grub.conf ompaul i cant see it in /boot or /boot/grub10:58
Dadoeswell 5.1 works with ac3 streams, but playing mp3 I only get front speakers (no subwoofer)10:58
ompaulHomer|ubuntu, that is not what I asked for :)10:58
EasterSunshineRaskall: ubuntuguide first of all gives a lot of false information, leads you to do things that can break your system, and has you add unnofical repos without letting you konw what you are doing10:59
Jhaircemc, yes indeed, I tried now with ps -eo pid,user and the user is shown, at least, I've always used ps aux and never had such behaviour10:59
cemcHomer|ubuntu: please device.map too10:59
EasterSunshineRaskall: a lot of it does not work either10:59
JamminBearwhat about zlib?10:59
RaskallEasterSunshine: ok.10:59
Homer|ubuntugetting confused now argh, i think you and cemc asked for menu.lst right ompaul10:59
Jhairat least the owner of my files are shown correctly so it is only a ps issue10:59
ompaulHomer|ubuntu, ,  ompaul Homer|ubuntu, also the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst10:59
LefungusEasterSunshine, examples ?10:59
thoreauputicbiffyjo: run tomboy --tray-icon from a terminal10:59
Homer|ubuntuompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1699 menu.lst10:59
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Lefungusthe official ubuntu wiki is a nightmare to read10:59
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ompaulHomer|ubuntu, your nick does not lend to easy tab completeion11:00
EasterSunshineLefungus: whenever someone refers a n00b to ubuntuguide to fix their sound, they come back saying it didn't work11:00
ompaulHomer|ubuntu, your nick does not lend to easy tab completion even :)11:00
JamminBearthe file Im trieng to comfigure then say requires zlib... what from there?11:00
cemcHomer|ubuntu: menu.lst = grub.conf :)11:00
EasterSunshineLefungus: then we have him undo everything from ubuntuguide, then read the wiki, and it starts working11:00
Homer|ubuntudevice.map http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/170011:00
cemcHomer|ubuntu: wee need /boot/grub/device.map too11:00
EasterSunshineLefungus: not to mention that the wiki is more comprehensive11:00
Homer|ubuntuthere you go cemc :p11:00
dvhartanyone using a PCMCIA CF card read successfully with Hoary?  I can mount it manually, but for some reason it won't automount or even show up in Nautilus until I mount it11:00
Homer|ubuntuthat should make tab completion easier too11:01
biffyjothoreauputic - thanks!11:01
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BergcubeI can subscribe to EasterSunshine's sentiments about ubuntuguide.  I actually reached the same conclusions (parts of it doesn't work, parts of it is potentially destructible) myself, and that in turn lead me here.11:01
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DadoesLefungus, 5.1 works with ac3 streams, but playing mp3 I only get front speakers (no subwoofer)11:01
cemcHomer|ubuntu: hm, it seems alright ...11:01
vladuz976is there an application with which i can burn audio cds from mp3 files11:01
Homer|ubuntuits just insisting on being retarded though :(11:01
LefungusDadoes, ah sorry, I only used stereo, can't say if multichannel work11:01
thoreauputicvladuz976: k3b11:01
Dadoesok11:01
ompaulcemc, that was a wrong thing to say  - reason http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1702 :-)11:02
[2] BoxingFiendvladuz: i use burn11:02
cemcHomer|ubuntu: try another thing...11:02
JhairBergcube, the debian documentation has much better qualitiy and you can use it for your ubuntu system11:02
DadoesI think the official alsa docs are the worst I've ever seen lol11:02
Dadoes"here is our c api, have fun" :P11:02
cemcompaul: hm ?11:02
BergcubeJhair~ Good to know.  Thanks.11:02
JhairBergcube, e.g. the debian reference11:02
Homer|ubuntugot me confused too cemc heh11:02
cemcompaul: i don't get it11:02
Homer|ubuntuwhat you want me to try?11:02
Lefungusok, the sound entry in the unofficial guide is awful11:02
cemcHomer|ubuntu: hold on a se11:02
cemcc11:02
Homer|ubuntukk11:03
cemcompaul: what's wrong with http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/170211:03
cemc?11:03
ompaulcemc, you said that one file equalled another but they don't live where we asked H to look11:03
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dvhartLefungus, what's wrong with it?11:03
cemcompaul: i know... /etc/grub.conf -> /boot/grub/menu.lst11:04
cemcsorry about that11:04
Jhairjust removed quite 350MB of python crap on my system and it works fine as before... so much about python stuff in ubuntu :)11:04
cemcHomer|ubuntu: so, try this11:04
ksmurfI'm using breezy but ALL my media players have segmentaion faults... any idea what's happening?11:04
Lefungusdvhart, well, do you know what all those commands do ?11:04
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cemcyou have mounted /dev/hdc1 somewhere11:04
Jhairwell python + gstreamer stuff11:04
EasterSunshineJhair: agreed11:04
Homer|ubuntuyep cemc11:04
cemcwhere ?11:04
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Homer|ubuntujust to /hdc11:04
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EasterSunshineJhair: gnome had me install 800 megs, probably half of it is uselss python bindings to useless crap11:05
cemcok, try to: chroot /hdc11:05
dvhartLefungus, which section exactly?11:05
BlissexJhair: Python has become a bit of religion with the extremist fringes of the Linux developer community. Fools! They should look at Scheme instead...11:05
vladuz976is there something like autoCAD for linux?11:05
cemcHomer|ubuntu: ok, try to: chroot /hdc11:05
Lefungus"Q: How to configure sound to work properly in GNOME?"11:05
EasterSunshinevladuz976: do you know about wine?11:05
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Homer|ubuntudone cemc11:05
Blissexvladuz976: AutoCAD.11:05
ttyS0vladuz976, I've seen QCad11:05
funkyHatLefungus, what isn't working?11:05
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JhairEasterSunshine, there should be something *very* wrong in the python architecture that it needs to define a *different* binding for every possible C functionality out there11:05
vladuz976EasterSunshine, don't wanna use wine11:05
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dvhartLefungus, yeah I know what they do11:06
Plukvladuz976, blender and maya but theyre not really like autocad11:06
ompaulHomer|ubuntu, it seems to me that the menu.lst entry for windows is wrong - have a look and tell me what you think, perhaps it should read root            (hd0,1) just maybe11:06
cemcnow try this: grub-install /dev/hdb11:06
ttyS0EasterSunshine, btw I couldn't run Autocad installer with wine :)11:06
Lefungusdvhart, so why is he activating dmix ?11:06
EasterSunshineJhair: its because python is interpreted, and c is compiled11:06
cemcompaul: hm,11:06
JhairBlissex, heh python is banned on my systems11:06
ompaulcemc, we both know that, what I had a problem with is someone else might not and then they might make a mistke11:06
cemcno, i think that's right,11:06
dvhartLefungus, heh, I was just about to say - "except for parts of the alsa conf"... :-)11:06
cemchd0 = hdb11:06
zeus1_Breezy is going to be the sheezy11:07
cemchd0,0 = hdb111:07
Dadoeslol dvhart11:07
cemcthere is windowst installed, no ?11:07
dvhartLefungus, so your right, it could use some more explanation as to intent there11:07
zeus1_Im going to go boot up XP, so i can go listen to MUSIC!!!11:07
ompaulhd0 ide 0 and hd 0 , 1 hdb11:07
Homer|ubuntudone cemc, you want me to pastebin the result?11:07
Lefungusdvhart, why is he messing with symbolic links of libraries ?11:07
Homer|ubuntucemc yes11:07
zeus1_since it doesnt work in linux....11:07
EasterSunshinezeus1_: we need something like that in the topic11:07
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zeus1_what lol\11:07
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cemcompaul: in devices.lst hd0 = hdb11:07
Lefungusanyway, what he's doing is a fix for one sound issue11:08
dvhartLefungus, I believe that is because some app he uses is looking for libesd.so.1 and not .011:08
cemcompaul: so hd0,0 => hdb111:08
zeus1_so eastersunshine u have any more suggestions11:08
cemcHomer|ubuntu: yes pls11:08
ompaulyeap11:08
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Homer|ubuntuhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/170411:08
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cemcand hd0,0 = hdb1 = winXP11:09
cute_bettongso can anyone help me with my audio problem?11:09
cemcno ?11:09
BergcubeYou know, sound works /better/ in Ubuntu on my old P3 box than it ever did with win2000 or xp.  Seems I must be the odd one out though.11:09
IceDC571has anyone tried installing openoffice.org2?11:09
EasterSunshinezeus1_: pull the sound card out from your doze box and put it in your ubuntu box11:09
dvhartLefungus, I found that it general the guide would benefit from "this is what we are going to do and why" in each section11:09
funkyHatIceDC571, yes, it works great :)11:09
EasterSunshineBergcube: nope, i had that as well11:09
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Lefungusdvhart, I like the unofficial guide, except that entry and maybe a few others11:09
cemcHomer|ubuntu: seems right, i dunno about that XFS error, but now try to boot it11:09
Dadoeslol wtf, I switched to xine engine (in amaroK) and back to gestreamer and now I have multichannel sound.....11:09
dvhartLefungus, yup, I found it pretty helpful11:10
Homer|ubuntuk, let me just reconnect laptop here11:10
sreindlIceDC571: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenOffice2Beta (works fine up to now)11:10
dvhartif only it had one on pcmcia cf cards...11:10
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IceDC571funkyHat, well.. i downloaded it and i have no clue what these openofficeorg-core01 all the way to core10 packages are so i dont know if i should install em11:10
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funkyHatIceDC571, just get it from synaptic... you may have to add universe11:10
Homerrrebooting11:10
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zeus1_Eastersunshine, this is a dual boot machine....11:11
lJlolelis anybody here in breezy?11:11
cemclJlolel: yep11:11
lJlolelcemc, not buggy, right?11:11
Homerrsame old crap cemc :(11:11
cemcHomerr: no grub, just the operating system sh*t ?11:12
_SWAT_I have 2 dirs. I need to compare the files and see if the version of the files in dir1 are the same (in size) as the ones in dir2. Dir2 contains far more files. How can I do this?11:12
Homerryep error loading operating system11:12
LefungusI tried Breezy a little, and found it too unstable to use yet11:12
cemclJlolel: dunno yet, just installed it11:12
cemcHomerr: you took out the cd, and rebooted?11:13
lJlolelLefungus, when did you try?11:13
Homerrcemc aye11:13
cemcHomerr: or changed the boot order in the BIOS ?11:13
Homerrnope cant, goes cdrom then hdd's11:13
Homerrnothing specific11:13
Homerrunless theres a way i can use the windows boot loader to boot ubuntu?11:14
ompaulHomerr, does it say grub when it starts or just missing operating system?11:14
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Homerrafter post it just says error loading operating system, nothing more11:14
JamminBearhow to set my environment variables tcllib?11:14
cemcit just doesn't find the grub ...11:14
Homerryup :(11:15
cemci'm wondering...11:15
cemccould you set in the bios hdd first ?11:15
ompaulHomerr, emmmm http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=32667611:15
ompaulcemc, have a look at that11:15
cemchehhh :)11:16
Homerrim starting to go off this new motherboard11:16
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Homerryeah ill try that now cemc but i dont think it'll do anything11:16
Homerrworth a look though11:16
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cemcHomerr: asus ?11:16
cemcwhat mobo is it exactly ?11:16
ompaulHomerr, it won't your machine is trying to boot the windows disk that is where the error is coming from11:16
LefunguslJlolel, friday11:16
Homerra8n-sli deluxe11:16
Homerryou watch im expecting "oh theres known problems with that board and ubuntu" :P11:17
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cemcompaul: hm, but windows is on hdb...11:17
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cemcjust where we installed grub... (theoretically :)11:18
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cemcHomerr: what-deluxe? :)11:18
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Homerra8n-sli deluxe11:18
ompaulHomerr,  cemc,  http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/posts.php?topic=4552711:18
freddy_y0!11:18
cemcompaul: hm?11:19
cemcwhere?11:19
ksmurfI'm using breezy.  does anyone know why NONE of my media players are NOT working. not tomem mplayer xine xmms or vlc11:19
ompaulforget it11:19
Homerreh ompaul ?11:19
cemcompaul: what's on hdd ?11:19
Homerrsound worked in the livecd :p11:20
ompaulHomerr, cemc forget that11:20
ksmurfmy sound woks but nothing else11:20
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cemcsorry11:20
cemcHomerr: what's on hdd ?11:20
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Homerrjust my crap11:20
Homerrporn etc11:20
Homerr:p11:20
ksmurfall I get is segmentation faults11:20
freddy_omg i got the ubuntu cds!11:20
ompaulcemc, ,   /dev/hdd1               1       24321   195358401    7  HPFS/NTFS11:21
Jhairksmurf, which architecture? i386? amd64?11:21
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smsealhi all11:21
ksmurfi38611:21
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freddy_sent from switzerland!11:21
freddy_and i live in venezuela!11:21
freddy_:D11:21
cemcHomerr: what was on hdc,11:21
freddy_it took one month to get here11:21
cemcbefora ubuntu ?11:21
smseali need help installing xmms...11:21
cemcbefore*11:21
Homerrnothing it was a fresh partition from ubuntu cemc11:22
freddy_smseal, apt-get install xmms11:22
ksmurfthe 686 smp kernel11:22
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cemcHomerr: it's very strange that after installing grub on hdb, it's still booting with windows' boot manager11:22
smseali dont think u understand. i am lost in ubuntu. step-by-step please11:23
cemccould we try something ?11:23
funkyHathow can i make window sizes not change? my gaim IM windows keep opening bigger than i want them11:23
cemcHomerr:11:23
Homerrcemc go ahead?11:23
cemccould you remove hdc, then reboot ? disconnect the source11:23
Jhairksmurf, that xmms segfaults is pretty strange... maybe you could paste the output of the console when you run xmms (don't paste it here but use the page mentioned in the topic of the channel)11:23
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Homerrk one sec then11:24
ompaulsmseal, click on system - administration - synaptic package manager11:24
funkyHatcemc, Homerr maybe the windows boot loader is being called from hda?11:24
cemchda = dvdrw11:24
Jhairksmurf, I mean the output  when you run xmms from the console or from an xterm11:24
funkyHatand therefore you should try installing grub there... perhaps :P11:24
Homerrdisconnected... post...11:24
cemc:))11:24
HomerrDISK BOOT FALIURE INSERT SYSTEM DISK.. blablablabla11:25
cemchehh11:25
ompaulHomerr, that is a different error11:25
cemcmasters are gone11:25
cemcslaves don't boot ?11:25
Homerryup disconnected the drive with ubuntu on it11:25
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ompaulcemc, ohh fsck11:25
Homerrthe ubuntu drive was the sec master11:25
MrBeanheyy how do i install a .deb ?11:25
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Homerrwindows drive is pri slave11:25
JhairMrBean, dpkg -i .deb11:25
MrBeank thanks :D11:26
funkyHatMrBean, sudo dpkg -i ....deb11:26
cemcHomerr: hm,11:26
cemcone more thing,11:26
cemcthen we go to bed :),11:26
smsealwhat then?11:26
Homerr:P11:26
ompaulHomerr, if I understand this the issue was that windows wanted to be on a master11:26
Homerrsounds like windows, f'ing control freak that it is11:26
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cemcwindows wanted to boot from hdc,11:26
cemcno ?11:26
ssdd65ok i know this is a bad question but can somone snd me the link for the repo site?11:26
smsealwhats next ompaul?11:27
ompaulcemc, when windows saw a disk on a master it wanted to beit11:27
Homerrit *shouldnt* have as i did a re install earlier on to hdb11:27
cemcwhen you installed on hdb, it put the boot loader on hdc, hm?11:27
lJlolelwhere is a good vim tutorial (I can now use vim comfortably but I dontknow all the tricks experts know)11:27
cemcHomerr: now,11:27
cemcput back the hdc,11:27
Homerrif it did that, its thoroughly retarded lol11:27
cemcand we simply install grub on hdc11:27
Homerr'k11:27
c6h12o6what causes gnome to load slow on a p4 with HT? average time is about 8 mins, i don't have ipv6, and my host and domain are specified in /etc/hosts11:27
Homerrsec gonna put the drive back boot back into livecd11:27
ompaulsmseal, in the window on the right click [AWAY from the squares]  then type xmms11:27
Jhairksmurf, what does ldd /usr/bin/xmms say?11:28
ksmurfI'm going to try it in kde and see if that workd11:28
cemcompaul: are we so stupid, or is windows? :) or the mobo? :)11:28
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Jhairksmurf, you can also try strace xmms11:28
Homerrprobably a combo of the last to cemc11:28
ompaulcemc, i think it is windows their programmers never did figure out the idea of flexability11:28
Bergcubec6h12o6~ Can it be that it's waiting for an IP adress via DHCP that never comes and has to time out a few times vefore going on?11:28
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Jhairksmurf, that could say you the spot where xmms is segfaulting given you a hint where is the problem...11:29
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Homerroh for ****s sake now the whole thing is refusing to do anything11:29
Homerreven boot from cd11:29
cemcompaul: i think that it's the bios too,11:29
Homerrhang on11:29
cemcyou forgot to change the boot order11:29
cemc:)11:29
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c6h12o6Bergcube, no dhcp11:29
Homerrahhh hahaha cheers cemc  :P11:29
cemcompaul: i think it's the bios too...,11:30
Homerri was lke WTF for a second then cemc was smart :p11:30
Bergcubec6h12o6~ Then do you _know_ that your computer is set up with a static IP adress?  (Don't go ballistic, just making sure...)11:30
ompaulsmseal  then click the square beside 'xmms' and then click apply you should figure it out11:30
cemcotherwise without hdc, it should've booted from hdb...11:30
ksmurfnothing that I could see11:30
lJlolelApache2 keeps telling me no host is set so it's using 127.0.0.1, howdo i set the host?11:30
cemcbut it didn'nt11:30
Homerrcemc hopefully it should behave when i install it to hdc11:31
Homerryou want me to chroot to hdc again?11:31
cemcyepp11:31
Homerrkk11:31
c6h12o6eh, using a connection to my dsl modem11:31
cemcmount it, chroot, then grub-install /dev/hdc11:31
c6h12o6dhcpcd doesn't even run11:31
Homerrright11:31
funkyHatlJlolel, it will work fine if you ignore that, but i can be set quite easily in the apache conf file11:31
cemcwe install grub everywhere :))11:31
Homerrjust waiting on livecd to start now11:31
funkyHatif it bothers you :P11:31
ompaul!tell smseal about repos11:31
Jhairksmurf, that linux-gate.so.1 dependency looks strange...11:31
lJlolelfunkyHat, i can't find httpd.conf (that hasa ny info in it)11:31
Jhairoh well11:32
funkyHatit might be apache.conf11:32
funkyHati don't know where it is in ubuntu11:32
cemc/etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf ?11:32
cemc/etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf ?11:32
Bergcubec6h12o6~ No, but that would be if YOUR machine was to be the DHCP server.  In your setup it's likely that you have to _get_ an adress from your ISP.11:32
Homerrthats one of the things i like about cemc that is cemc... conf files from ports will be in /usr/local/etc no faffing around :p11:33
Homerri like about freebsd*11:33
c6h12o6yeah, pppoe takes care of it11:33
Homerri want to use ubuntu here at home though11:33
cemcwell, in linux, conf files are in /etc mostly ;)11:33
Homerrtrue :p11:33
c6h12o6don't have dhclient or anything like it installed either11:33
lJlolel!find httpd11:34
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'httpd' (4 shown): bozohttpd ;; dhttpd ;; thttpd ;; thttpd-util.11:34
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Bergcubec6h12o6~ I agree, it sounds strange for it to take so long in starting up.11:34
Homerrill reconfigure my drives someday11:34
c6h12o6well, i read about this before, and it said it was waiting for addresses to resolve11:35
Homerrill put the storage drive & dvdrw on secondary, windows drive as pri master and linux drive as pri slave11:35
c6h12o6well, the only thing it needs to worry about are my local addresses and hosts11:35
lJlolelit's /etc/apache2/apache2.conf for reference11:35
ompaulHomerr, well it would be a good way to go11:35
Bergcubec6h12o6~ I have no really good suggestions right off then.  Good luck.11:35
ompaulHomerr, but it would be better if you got rid of that other operating system* much better [* very loose use of language] 11:36
Homerrhahahaha11:36
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funkyHatc6h12o6, it could possibly be the time updater... see if it's set up to automatically get the time from the internet in system > administration > date and time11:36
Homerrompaul i would if more games were in linux11:36
Homerri hate windows :p11:36
lJlolelwhere is a good vim tutorial (I can now use vim comfortably but I dontknow all the tricks experts know)11:36
Homerranyway now the livecd is shouting at me to specify a filesystem type when mounting it, didnt want it before :/11:37
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ksmurfstill no luck11:37
lJlolelHomerr, a LOT more games work in linux now than last year11:37
cemcHomerr: mount /dev/hdc1 /where11:37
ompaulHomerr, that is cos you did it automagically on the last boot11:37
Homerrhaha i forgot the 111:37
cemc:)11:37
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Homerri need caffeine11:37
cemci thought so :)11:37
cemc(sh)it happens :)11:38
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ompaulHomerr, at 10:37pm you need coco :)11:38
Jhairksmurf, maybe you should try with another kernel11:38
ompaulHomerr, or horlicks11:38
cemcit's 00:40 here :)11:38
Homerrhaha cemc is it /dev/hdc on grub-install?11:38
Homerrheh you in the UK too ompaul ?11:38
ksmurfjhair... tried that .... no go.....11:38
cemcHomerr: grub-install /dev/hdc (after chroot )11:38
ompaulHomerr, no we told you for the last 800 years it ain't :)11:38
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Homerrblaaaaa :P11:39
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Homerrmoo11:39
Jhairksmurf, what did strace xmms said?11:39
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Homerrno error reported11:39
Homerrreboot?11:39
ompauly not11:39
Homerrhaha11:39
cemcreboot11:39
Homerryou didnt moo loud enough thats why :p11:40
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cemcstarting grub...11:40
cemc:)11:40
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abarbacciahey guys - i need to remove the madwifi modules that were installed in hoary as default - where would they be located11:40
Homerrcemc i bloody well hope11:40
Homerrright here goes....11:40
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HomerrPOST11:40
crimsunabarbaccia: in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/11:40
HomerrFOR ****S SAKE11:41
Homerrdisk boot faliure11:41
cemc?11:41
cemche?11:41
HomerrDISK BOOT FALIURE, INSET SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER11:41
Homerri hate you windows.11:41
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funkyHatanyone use BitchX?11:41
cemcHomerr: go in the BIOS :)11:41
cemcand take a look at the boot order11:41
EasterSunshinegelp! tjere is no us dvorak latout in the gnome ketboard latout options!11:41
ompaulHomerr, that is good (kind of) it means your MoBo ain't is not seeing a boot sector11:41
MaxKyotohey guys, i have a small but annoying problem... when i press my mute key, it works, but when i try to unmute later, it still reports a 0-level11:41
cemccdrom, _hdd_ ? :)11:42
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abarbacciacrimsun, thanks11:42
Homerryep cemc11:42
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redeemanhello, are there a guide to get ati drivers installed on ubuntu?11:42
EasterSunshine!ati11:42
ubotuI guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI11:42
Homerrok ive had an idea, throw the windows cd in and fixboot/fixmbr, reboot into ubuntu's livecd and reinstall grub... that should do it right?11:42
Jhairwell that linux-gate.so.1 is not that rare I've checked on a 32bit chroot and indeed is there11:42
redeemanthanks11:42
cemcfirst = cdrom, second = hdd ?11:42
BergcubeMaxKyoto~ I wish I had one of those "mute-only-buttons" that worked on people...  (Users.)11:42
Homerryes cemc11:43
funkyHatredeeman, you could try the ati drivers in synaptic first, they are easier to get working if they work (most likely will)11:43
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redeemanfunkyHat: its not for me11:43
funkyHati don't know which repository they are in though, the person may have to add multiverse and universe11:43
ksmurfJhair In hoary I tried to grab a package I needed for penginTV and it killed my hoary so I came to breezy11:43
MaxKyotobergcube... tell me about it... i've been using slackware for years, but this problem is eluding me11:43
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Homerrpong cemc :p11:44
Jhairksmurf, that's pretty rare... another possiblity is: serious hardware issues. maybe you should run memtest as last resource...11:44
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ompaulfunkyHat, if you type 'apt-cache show foo | grep section'  it tells you11:45
funkyHatthanks ompaul :)11:45
Homerrompaul would my idea work?11:46
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cemc_re11:46
cemc_Homerr: ssup? :)11:46
Homerrcemc got borked?11:46
Homerr:P11:46
cemc_some connection problems :)11:47
HomerrHomerr ok ive had an idea, throw the windows cd in and fixboot/fixmbr, reboot into ubuntu's livecd and reinstall grub... that should do it right? <-- would that work?11:47
MaxKyotodoes anyone know if there's a way to change the commands that are executed by the key-listener in gnome?11:47
MaxKyotoi miss my blackbox :(11:47
cemc_Homerr: fixboot/fixmbr of which hdX ?11:47
Homerrhdb11:48
Homerrrun it from recovery console on windows cd11:48
redeemanfunkyHat: he tried both things, he dont get direct rendering11:48
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funkyHatompaul, apparently it doesnt, that doesn't return anything11:48
ompaulHomerr, have a shot at it - it might11:49
Homerrhuge bastarding toothcahe isnt helping matters11:49
MaxKyotodoes anyone know if there's a way to change the commands that are executed by the key-listener in gnome?11:50
ompaulHomerr, emole your contotions, tanguage limiothy :)11:50
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Homerrawwe :p11:50
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Homerrpain pain pain11:50
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cemc_Homerr: mmm...,11:51
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cemc_where did you last install grub ?11:51
Homerrhdc11:51
cemc_ /dev/hdc, or hdc1 ?11:51
Homerr /dev/hdc11:51
Loki|muhhi11:51
ompaulfunkyHat, for which package?11:51
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HomerrBORK!11:52
funkyHatompaul, i think i figured it out now, i have to put the section in instead of 'section' ;)11:52
Loki|muhi switched to breezy today and now my fonts disappeared in my Xorg, only console is usable11:52
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cemc_hmm, that reminds me... where is xfs, the x font server ?11:52
ompaulLoki|muh, he who plays with unstable will find it to be unstable11:52
drraknis there any known reason why I'd see the "Unauthenticated packages, install anyway" message while installing Breezy Colony 3?11:53
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drraknI haven't seen any recent mailing list traffic regarding that11:53
Loki|muhompaul: yeah I know, but I know that it should work, too ;)11:53
cemc_Homerr: are you trying ?11:53
wildstoocan someone please tell me how to run the hoary livecd in a widescreen resolution (specifically 1680x1050)?11:53
Homerrcemc_ just about to fixboot/fixmbr then reinstall grub on hdc11:53
Loki|muhompaul: im just asking about anyone who knows something about this issue ;)11:53
cemc_wildstoo: hp nx8220? :)11:53
Homerrill test if windows boots up first though11:54
EasterSunshineis there a way to switch vi to be dvorak friendly?11:54
MaxKyotoecho.. echo.. echo11:54
wildstoocemc_: Dell 2005FPW11:54
Loki|muhompaul: since my webbrowser isnt very usable and textbrowsers suck irc is the best possibility ;)11:54
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ompaulLoki|muh,  this be true11:54
MaxKyotodoes anyone use media keys with gnome in ubuntu hoary?11:54
funkyHatEasterSunshine, i just switch back to qwerty when i use vim ;)11:54
funkyHatkeeps me practicing both11:55
cemc_wildstoo: you can specify some custom resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:55
cemc_i guess...11:55
Homerrfixboot/mbr'd11:55
cemc_oh wait...11:55
Homerrsee if windows boots11:55
wildstoolivecd11:55
cemc_Homerr: i doubt that :)11:55
cemc_hehe11:55
Homerryep its booting11:55
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cemcit boots??11:55
Homerrwindows has11:56
cemcwtf...11:56
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funkyHatcemc, it was suppsed to, he just repaired it :P11:56
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cemcHomerr: you did a fixboot/mbr on hdb ?11:56
Homerryes11:56
Homerrbrb sorting somebody out11:56
Webby`Hi, I can't load ./configure when trying to install fluxbox. I get an error. checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables11:56
EasterSunshineoh no my consoles aren't in dvorak11:57
halleyHow does one config firewall/iptables/whatnot in ubuntu gnome?11:57
crimsunWebby`: does fluxbox in universe not suffice?11:57
Homerrback11:57
Webby`Nope11:57
ompaulcemc, he did11:57
Homerryes i did cemc11:57
crimsunWebby`: then apt-get build-dep fluxbox11:57
MaxKyotois there an ubuntu room where people actually respond to you?11:57
Webby`crimsun: It's missing the start menu11:57
Webby`Ok11:58
Webby`I will try that11:58
cemcvery funny, indeed :)11:58
Homerrwhat to do next, install grub to hdb, or hdc, or hdc1?11:58
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crimsunMaxKyoto: patience goes a long way11:58
Webby`Thanks :)11:58
JhairWebby`, what does gcc -v say?11:58
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cemcHomerr: i would say hdb...,11:58
cemcbut i dunno why...11:58
cemc:)11:58
arikim on dual boot. how do i change order of my OS?11:58
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Homerrheh ok11:58
ompaul MaxKyoto does anyone know if there's a way to change the commands that are executed by the key-listener in gnome? see one listens one just does not know answer11:58
JhairWebby`, don't paste it here...11:58
abarbacciaarik, edit the /boot/grub.conf file11:58
crimsunMaxKyoto: that's a gnome question, not ubuntu-specific, and so you'll have better luck in gnome's irc channel11:58
MaxKyotoapologies... have been googling this problem for a while and i'm a bit unnerved :(11:58
Homerrcemc wouldnt that just put us where we were before?11:58
arikim a beginer ababaccia how do i do it11:59
crimsunMaxKyoto: to be more specific, please check the gnome developers' irc channel11:59
hussamanybody knows when will Gnome be getting a builtin composite extension like kde 3.4 and xfce 4.2.2 ?11:59
cemcHomerr: i'm guessing yes, but i don't get it why suddenly windows boots :)11:59
funkyHatHomerr, put it where windows is booting from...11:59
funkyHatprobably hd11:59
funkyHat*hda11:59
MaxKyotocrimsun: what's the channel name?11:59
funkyHatbut your system is confusing :P11:59
cemc:)11:59
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cemchda is the dvd-rom11:59
Homerrtell me about it funkyHat lol11:59
funkyHatah right12:00
funkyHatwhat is hdb?12:00
cemchdb is the windows12:00
funkyHatoh yeah the other 3 are hard drives12:00

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