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EvanCarrollAny plans on including the latest amarok in breezy?08:50
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verwilstRiddell: !10:18
verwilstyou're back!10:18
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tvoRiddell: ping11:07
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult || KDE 3.5 Alpha1 deb's under construction! || Adept alpha out - http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult || KDE 3.5 Alpha1 deb's under construction! || Adept alpha out - http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult || KDE 3.5 Alpha1 deb's under construction! || Adept alpha out - http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:irc.freenode.net] : Kubuntu 5.04 Released http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu || w00t for katapult :D - please idle in #katapult || KDE 3.5 Alpha1 deb's under construction! || Adept alpha out - http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
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hungerHiddenWolf: Not sicker than spamming in general.03:40
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tvoRiddell: ping07:00
Riddelltvo: yo07:01
tvoheh you finally there :)07:01
tvoanyway, did you read up on status reports?07:01
Riddellyeah, no internet access in lecture theatres here damnit07:01
tvo:)07:01
Riddellnot yet, it's top of my todo list now after these talk writeups07:02
Riddellis there a new version of kio-locate we should have in breezy?:07:02
Riddells/://07:02
tvoyes, I released kio-locate- 0.2 yesterday07:02
tvosee wiki for links07:02
tvoa sponsored upload would be nice :)07:03
Riddellkio-locate is now in main, means we have to get approval07:04
tvo[WWW]  http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/deb/kio-locate_0.4.2tvo0.2.{diff.gz,orig.tar.gz,dsc}07:04
tvooh did it already get in?07:04
Riddellis there a list of improvements and fixes?07:05
RiddellI just looked at it and it's in main :)07:05
tvothere's a ChangeLog inside the orig.tar.gz07:05
tvoI could up it somewhere07:06
tvomost importantly: uds_hidden, recursive hitcounting07:06
tvomeh, after looking at ChangeLog again, it might be a bit too summarized07:08
tvohttp://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/changelog-kio-locate--tvo--0.2.html07:09
tvo^^ there is more detailed changelog07:09
tvoRiddell: should I ask mdz for inclusion?07:09
Riddelltvo: sure07:18
tvoRiddell: mdz approved, do you have time for a sponsored upload?08:07
Riddellyep08:08
tvoRiddell: ok, cool, http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/deb/kio-locate_0.4.2tvo0.2.{diff.gz,orig.tar.gz,dsc}08:10
Riddellkio-locate# dpkg-source -x *dsc08:10
Riddelldpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `.diff'08:10
Riddellhmm, do you get that?08:10
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tvoRiddell: yes. That's a bug in dpkg-source, the fixed version should be repos.08:12
tvo*in repos08:13
tvo(details in status report)08:14
Riddellgolly, you're right08:15
tvo:)08:15
Riddelltvo: did you get a reply to "why the common-->../common symlink in doc dirs"?08:32
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tvoRiddell: yes, all kinds of arguments claiming it should stay there08:33
tvofor different language support, and because the docbook DTD has to be changed etc.08:33
tvoI didn't consider myself enough expertised to continue discussing, especially because it doesn't harm anyone08:34
Riddellyeah08:34
tvoI reported the bug to ita (he's there in Malaga) and he fixed it08:35
tvoin bksys08:35
Riddellhave you checked if the xrandr patch in breezy works?08:38
Riddell[breezy-changes]  Accepted kio-locate 0.4.2tvo0.2 (source)08:42
tvoyes, it works fine. I used it intensively for reading some mechanical vibration (study) pdf's :-)08:44
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Riddellcool08:46
Riddelltvo: could the about:konq locate box go above the Home/Storage icons but still in the box?08:47
tvoyes, it's a matter of moving the HTML around. Send a new patch?08:47
Riddellit's strange that inotify doesn't have an easy way for watching "all changes to the filesystem"08:47
Riddelltvo: I havn't found a patch from you08:48
tvooh I dropped a link in this channel a while ago.. nm, I'll move the HTML and then send a patch08:48
Riddellcould you e-mail me the link too so I have it for when I update kdebase (tomorrow with any luck)08:49
tvook08:50
Riddellwith inotify can you not just say "watch all files under this directory"?08:50
tvono, I read somewhere they didn't make it like that because it would require unpredictable amount's of kernel memory08:51
tvoif one doesn't know the depth of the tree08:51
Riddellhmm08:52
Riddellkinday limits its usefulness08:53
tvobtw, I should correct my status report about inotify locate: I think it shouldn't be needed to keep this entire tree in memory, so user memory wouldn't be a problem. Just kernel memory (ie. number of watches times sizeof(struct inotify_watch)).08:54
tvoI've started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RLocate about rlocate / inotify enabled locate08:55
Riddellmaybe that should be a breezy + 1 goal08:57
tvoyeah, that would be doable I think08:58
Riddellso...any plans to port google suggest support to the konqueror google plugin??08:59
Riddellyou know you want to08:59
tvodidn't even look at it :o, will do in a minute (after patch) if you want09:00
Riddellsomewhere on kde-apps.org there's a google toolbar for konqueror09:01
Riddellfar too many features but having google suggest support in the search bar is really fun09:02
Riddellprobably not too difficult to rip that out and add it to the normal konqueror google search plugin09:02
tvoif it's basically just a google.com?blah=foo link, then it's a matter of minutes to make a .desktop file..09:04
Riddellnaw, it's a nifty drop down box09:05
tvoRiddell: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/172609:05
tvoaccidentally I uninstalled kio-locate from my kdedev account, but SourceForge will do in the screenie :)09:05
tvo( it takes the default search provider )09:06
Riddellyeah, I think that's the best layout for it09:07
Riddell(going by screenshots rather than actually using it)09:07
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tvoRiddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/searchbar.diff <-- patch (searchbar at top)09:14
tvobasically, it shows the default searchprovider there, or the old about:konqueror page if none is selected as default09:15
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Riddelldid you find googlebar?09:15
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tvoI still had the tarball in my soc folder ;)09:18
Riddellit's got far too many features, but the google suggest is just so cool09:19
tvoah ok, you mean this auto-completion like feature?09:24
Riddellyep09:25
tvoand you want the suggest feature in the "default" searchbar?09:25
Riddellin the normal konqueror google plugin yes09:26
tvoit's "default searchprovider" which by default, is google. You can change it to any other webshortcut09:28
tvohmm the Google logo doesn't change if you choose another09:29
tvoRiddell: happen to know the KDE source module which contains this google plugin?09:29
Riddellin Settings->Configure Extentions it's called Google Bar Plugin09:29
Riddellkdeaddons?09:29
Riddellkdeaddons/konq-plugins/searchbar/ I think it is09:31
tvook, I'll checkout the SVN09:32
tvoyeah it seems to be that one09:43
Riddelltvo: while you're hacking that code another wishlist I have is for the google search bar to display all the time, not just on webpages09:44
tvosomething with the profiles probably..09:45
tvoI'll look at it09:45
Riddelljust incase you wanted to fulfil my every desire :)09:45
tvowon't make that anyways :-) still like 8 search engines on my todo list ;-)09:45
tvobut it's still 2 days SoC09:46
tvoso I have time :o09:46
Riddellanything else we should discuss tonight?09:48
tvohmm, do you use a todo list manager? I was looking for a better one than kwrite today..09:48
RiddellI don't, does kontact provide one?09:50
RiddellI know some kde groups share todo lists with kontact and kolab09:50
tvoI don't know, I started looking today (used kwrite all the time until now)09:51
tvofound KOrganizer does have one09:51
tvoI'm trying it out right now09:51
tvoI also asked at a forum but I'd probably too much wishes, because even bugzilla was mentioned :p09:52
tvos/I'd/I had/09:52
tvoback on topic: I don't think there's much more to discuss..09:54
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