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[08:50] <EvanCarroll> Any plans on including the latest amarok in breezy?
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[10:18] <verwilst> Riddell: !
[10:18] <verwilst> you're back!
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[11:07] <tvo> Riddell: ping
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[07:00] <tvo> Riddell: ping
[07:01] <Riddell> tvo: yo
[07:01] <tvo> heh you finally there :)
[07:01] <tvo> anyway, did you read up on status reports?
[07:01] <Riddell> yeah, no internet access in lecture theatres here damnit
[07:01] <tvo> :)
[07:02] <Riddell> not yet, it's top of my todo list now after these talk writeups
[07:02] <Riddell> is there a new version of kio-locate we should have in breezy?:
[07:02] <Riddell> s/://
[07:02] <tvo> yes, I released kio-locate- 0.2 yesterday
[07:02] <tvo> see wiki for links
[07:03] <tvo> a sponsored upload would be nice :)
[07:04] <Riddell> kio-locate is now in main, means we have to get approval
[07:04] <tvo> [WWW]  http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/deb/kio-locate_0.4.2tvo0.2.{diff.gz,orig.tar.gz,dsc}
[07:04] <tvo> oh did it already get in?
[07:05] <Riddell> is there a list of improvements and fixes?
[07:05] <Riddell> I just looked at it and it's in main :)
[07:05] <tvo> there's a ChangeLog inside the orig.tar.gz
[07:06] <tvo> I could up it somewhere
[07:06] <tvo> most importantly: uds_hidden, recursive hitcounting
[07:08] <tvo> meh, after looking at ChangeLog again, it might be a bit too summarized
[07:09] <tvo> http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/changelog-kio-locate--tvo--0.2.html
[07:09] <tvo> ^^ there is more detailed changelog
[07:09] <tvo> Riddell: should I ask mdz for inclusion?
[07:18] <Riddell> tvo: sure
[08:07] <tvo> Riddell: mdz approved, do you have time for a sponsored upload?
[08:08] <Riddell> yep
[08:10] <tvo> Riddell: ok, cool, http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/deb/kio-locate_0.4.2tvo0.2.{diff.gz,orig.tar.gz,dsc}
[08:10] <Riddell> kio-locate# dpkg-source -x *dsc
[08:10] <Riddell> dpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `.diff'
[08:10] <Riddell> hmm, do you get that?
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[08:12] <tvo> Riddell: yes. That's a bug in dpkg-source, the fixed version should be repos.
[08:13] <tvo> *in repos
[08:14] <tvo> (details in status report)
[08:15] <Riddell> golly, you're right
[08:15] <tvo> :)
[08:32] <Riddell> tvo: did you get a reply to "why the common-->../common symlink in doc dirs"?
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[08:33] <tvo> Riddell: yes, all kinds of arguments claiming it should stay there
[08:33] <tvo> for different language support, and because the docbook DTD has to be changed etc.
[08:34] <tvo> I didn't consider myself enough expertised to continue discussing, especially because it doesn't harm anyone
[08:34] <Riddell> yeah
[08:35] <tvo> I reported the bug to ita (he's there in Malaga) and he fixed it
[08:35] <tvo> in bksys
[08:38] <Riddell> have you checked if the xrandr patch in breezy works?
[08:42] <Riddell> [breezy-changes]  Accepted kio-locate 0.4.2tvo0.2 (source)
[08:44] <tvo> yes, it works fine. I used it intensively for reading some mechanical vibration (study) pdf's :-)
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[08:46] <Riddell> cool
[08:47] <Riddell> tvo: could the about:konq locate box go above the Home/Storage icons but still in the box?
[08:47] <tvo> yes, it's a matter of moving the HTML around. Send a new patch?
[08:47] <Riddell> it's strange that inotify doesn't have an easy way for watching "all changes to the filesystem"
[08:48] <Riddell> tvo: I havn't found a patch from you
[08:48] <tvo> oh I dropped a link in this channel a while ago.. nm, I'll move the HTML and then send a patch
[08:49] <Riddell> could you e-mail me the link too so I have it for when I update kdebase (tomorrow with any luck)
[08:50] <tvo> ok
[08:50] <Riddell> with inotify can you not just say "watch all files under this directory"?
[08:51] <tvo> no, I read somewhere they didn't make it like that because it would require unpredictable amount's of kernel memory
[08:51] <tvo> if one doesn't know the depth of the tree
[08:52] <Riddell> hmm
[08:53] <Riddell> kinday limits its usefulness
[08:54] <tvo> btw, I should correct my status report about inotify locate: I think it shouldn't be needed to keep this entire tree in memory, so user memory wouldn't be a problem. Just kernel memory (ie. number of watches times sizeof(struct inotify_watch)).
[08:55] <tvo> I've started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RLocate about rlocate / inotify enabled locate
[08:57] <Riddell> maybe that should be a breezy + 1 goal
[08:58] <tvo> yeah, that would be doable I think
[08:59] <Riddell> so...any plans to port google suggest support to the konqueror google plugin??
[08:59] <Riddell> you know you want to
[09:00] <tvo> didn't even look at it :o, will do in a minute (after patch) if you want
[09:01] <Riddell> somewhere on kde-apps.org there's a google toolbar for konqueror
[09:02] <Riddell> far too many features but having google suggest support in the search bar is really fun
[09:02] <Riddell> probably not too difficult to rip that out and add it to the normal konqueror google search plugin
[09:04] <tvo> if it's basically just a google.com?blah=foo link, then it's a matter of minutes to make a .desktop file..
[09:05] <Riddell> naw, it's a nifty drop down box
[09:05] <tvo> Riddell: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1726
[09:05] <tvo> accidentally I uninstalled kio-locate from my kdedev account, but SourceForge will do in the screenie :)
[09:06] <tvo> ( it takes the default search provider )
[09:07] <Riddell> yeah, I think that's the best layout for it
[09:07] <Riddell> (going by screenshots rather than actually using it)
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[09:14] <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/searchbar.diff <-- patch (searchbar at top)
[09:15] <tvo> basically, it shows the default searchprovider there, or the old about:konqueror page if none is selected as default
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[09:15] <Riddell> did you find googlebar?
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[09:18] <tvo> I still had the tarball in my soc folder ;)
[09:19] <Riddell> it's got far too many features, but the google suggest is just so cool
[09:24] <tvo> ah ok, you mean this auto-completion like feature?
[09:25] <Riddell> yep
[09:25] <tvo> and you want the suggest feature in the "default" searchbar?
[09:26] <Riddell> in the normal konqueror google plugin yes
[09:28] <tvo> it's "default searchprovider" which by default, is google. You can change it to any other webshortcut
[09:29] <tvo> hmm the Google logo doesn't change if you choose another
[09:29] <tvo> Riddell: happen to know the KDE source module which contains this google plugin?
[09:29] <Riddell> in Settings->Configure Extentions it's called Google Bar Plugin
[09:29] <Riddell> kdeaddons?
[09:31] <Riddell> kdeaddons/konq-plugins/searchbar/ I think it is
[09:32] <tvo> ok, I'll checkout the SVN
[09:43] <tvo> yeah it seems to be that one
[09:44] <Riddell> tvo: while you're hacking that code another wishlist I have is for the google search bar to display all the time, not just on webpages
[09:45] <tvo> something with the profiles probably..
[09:45] <tvo> I'll look at it
[09:45] <Riddell> just incase you wanted to fulfil my every desire :)
[09:45] <tvo> won't make that anyways :-) still like 8 search engines on my todo list ;-)
[09:46] <tvo> but it's still 2 days SoC
[09:46] <tvo> so I have time :o
[09:48] <Riddell> anything else we should discuss tonight?
[09:48] <tvo> hmm, do you use a todo list manager? I was looking for a better one than kwrite today..
[09:50] <Riddell> I don't, does kontact provide one?
[09:50] <Riddell> I know some kde groups share todo lists with kontact and kolab
[09:51] <tvo> I don't know, I started looking today (used kwrite all the time until now)
[09:51] <tvo> found KOrganizer does have one
[09:51] <tvo> I'm trying it out right now
[09:52] <tvo> I also asked at a forum but I'd probably too much wishes, because even bugzilla was mentioned :p
[09:52] <tvo> s/I'd/I had/
[09:54] <tvo> back on topic: I don't think there's much more to discuss..
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