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Madpilot!repos12:00
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:00
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Madpilottdn_: the 2nd url above ^^^ is an 'official' sources.list - cut and paste that, you'll be fine12:00
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tdn_maddler, ok. Thanks. I'll just edit my sources.list from the one in the pastebin and then run apt-get update and then synaptic again?12:01
intelikeyeeeek  i saved a webpage and now the dl manager is covering all the control buttons so i can't even close ff      ub 5.04   xfce4    any way to close the dlm without killind the gui ?12:01
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Madpilottdn_: you can update from inside Synaptic - hit the Reload button12:01
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Popeyej0ax12:01
Popeyecuanta pea12:01
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puffHm, so "apt-cache search ip2200" turns up nothing... what next?12:02
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Madpilotpuff: are you looking for printer drivers? (Canon ip2200?)12:03
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tdn_Madpilot, ok. Nice. Im not used to all this graphic stuff :)12:03
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|Imp|puff, wifi drivers?12:03
Madpilottdn_: you can actually do all the sources.list stuff right inside Synaptic as well12:03
puffMadpilot: Nah.  |Imp| Yah.12:03
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|Imp|puff, look up the windows drivers12:03
puffhm, according to this ubuntuforums.com post, it's in "the monster linux-image package"12:03
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|Imp|they don't make linux drivers12:03
|Imp|you'll need to set up ndiswrapper12:03
Madpilotubotu tell tdn_ about synaptic12:04
puff|Imp|: There's a sourceforge port for ipw2200.12:04
intelikeywhat is /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server ?12:04
|Imp|really?12:04
|Imp|i feel like a moron now then12:04
theinepuff, was your card working before by the way?12:04
puffhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32099.html12:04
|Imp|i spent hours setting up ndiswrapper for ubuntu12:04
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pufftheine: Yup, worked just fine out of the box, worked too well, the problem was both the wirelss and the wire were coming up and the wireless dhcp was taking priority.12:04
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theine|Imp|, actually, ipw2200 drivers are included in the official Ubuntu kernel as far as I know12:05
puffSo I had to ifdown it every time I resumed.12:05
robotgeekpuff: i swear i had seen the ipw2200 sources in my list before, doesn't show up now. maybe they come inbuilt in breezy!12:05
|Imp|hmm12:05
theinepuff, what do you mean priority?12:05
|Imp|maybe im thinking of the wrong i**220012:05
pufftheine: In the linux-image package, according to the dicsussion at the URL I just pasted.12:05
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intelikeyis there a way to move a window in xfce4 ?12:05
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NoUseintelikey gamin, its a file monitoring system12:05
pufftheine: I mean that the wireless router had a messed up dhcp server (long storY) and it was getting dhcp from the wireless router instead of from the wired router, and thus DNS was screwed up.12:06
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ArsonideHey my mouse just stopped working for no reason...any clues?12:07
tdn_Oh no! Now Synaptics gives me an error while trying to reload: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1732.12:07
theinepuff, and you didn't want to hardcode the dns ip into /etc/resolv./conf i suppose?12:07
ArsonideThe laser is on...12:07
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ryguy1233NoUse: i dont think i have the recovery xp disk12:07
ArsonideSo it's definately plugged in.12:07
puffhm, so this leads me to wonder what other modules might need upgrading.12:07
theineresolv.conf12:07
robotgeekArsonide: connect and reconnect!12:07
pufftheine: nope.12:07
GoClickI accidentaly went [sudo mv /* ../]  while I was in /home/apache/htdocs/  and that's bad. I've got a LiveCD in the machine now but where does the live CD mount the first SATA device?12:07
ArsonideDoes this happen a lot?12:07
pufftheine: I tend to spend my time bouncing around between several different networks.12:07
thrushlook directly into the eye of the laser you should see an error code12:07
ArsonideWhat do you mean connect and reconnect?12:07
icewtanyone using kaffeine for digital television?12:08
robotgeekArsonide: first time i've heard this happen12:08
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theinepuff, so what did you do to reach the current state?12:08
NoUseryguy1233 try the XP book disk from bootdisk.com but I'm not sure if it has the repair stuff on it12:08
Stormx2Hey, just a quick question. I've install kubuntu-desktop (and all the KDE to go with it), but i've decided against using it. Is there an easy way to remove the KDE packages from my GNOME menu?12:08
robotgeekArsonide: ur mouse!12:08
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pufftheine: So, is there a way to get the linux-image package appropriate for my kernel?  I'm kinda worried other modules  might need upgrading as well.12:08
lJlolelwhat? mp3's play just by mousing over them? Linux is so cool12:08
NoUsetdn_ its pretty self explanitory, you have two sources that are the same, remove one12:08
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ryguy1233NoUse: do you think there is a chance someone will have posted it as a torrent?12:08
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theinepuff, what cpu do you have12:08
intelikeyapt uninstall comand ?    purge ?12:08
ArsonideStill doesn't work12:08
Arsonidenow the laser is on but very very dim12:08
NoUseryguy1233 people pirate windows? ;-)12:08
Stormx2ryguy1233: What do you want, boot disk?12:09
robotgeekArsonide: i am not sure what's wrong :(12:09
ArsonideI'll try restarting12:09
Arsonidebrb12:09
GoClickDoes the LiveCD mount the local hard drive anywhere?12:09
intelikeyonly remove i guess.12:09
robotgeekintelikey: apt-get remove <package>12:09
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pufftheine: I don't have the log file in front o fme at the moment (was keeping it elsewhere) but i followed the advice from folks here on upgrading my kernel.12:09
lunitikStormx2, if you don't want kubuntu at all... install 'debfoster' and run it... its in universe.12:09
ryguy1233Stormx2: yeah, is that also known as a recovery disk?12:09
Stormx2ryguy1233: Not sure, what do you want to do with it? Put it in your floppy drive and boot xp with it?12:10
lunitikStormx2, then just say no to all the contents of kubuntu-desktop... and it will all be removed from the system12:10
theinepuff, I would try `sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-686'12:10
ryguy1233is there an easy way of send a message that beeps on the persons computer like you do for me?12:10
NoUseStormx2 he needs to fix his mbr12:10
Stormx2lunitik: Thanks a bunch ^_^12:10
puffso, hm, maybe i just need to apt-get reinnstall... yeah.12:10
puffcool, thanks.12:10
ryguy1233or is typing in their nick the easiest12:10
pufftheine: thanks.12:10
intelikeyhowto list all installed packages ?12:10
Stormx2ryguy1233: Include their name in it.12:10
theinepuff, unless you have a different cpou of course12:10
theinecpu12:10
lunitikintelikey, dpkg -l12:10
intelikeyty lunitik12:10
Stormx2NoUse: Surely install / reconfigure GRUB?12:10
lunitikintelikey, you likely want to do 'dpkg -l | less' though12:10
ryguy1233stormx2, i want to fix the mbr12:11
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NoUseStormx2 he has uninstalled Ubuntu so he just wants the XP boot loader back12:11
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intelikeyna the list is not that long   i might  | less lunitik12:11
ryguy1233oh he said it aleayd12:11
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Stormx2NoUse: Stuffed.12:11
Stormx2NoUse: Hmm12:11
confreyanybody using oregano, or geda?12:11
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Stormx2NoUse: Can he reinstall it from within XP?12:11
NoUseStormx2 I don't think so12:11
lunitikgrub-install /dev/hda12:12
NoUseryguy1233 google fixing XP mbr or something12:12
puffWarning: CPU frequency is 800000, cpufreq assumed 2133000 kHz.12:12
puffIn dmesg.12:12
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intelikeyonly 314 installed packages      that's a short list for a pinguin12:12
lunitikryguy1233, just add an XP entry into GRUB...12:12
lunitikryguy1233, GRUB > boot.ini  :/12:12
chumphriespuff: powernowd altering status?12:13
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ubuntuhello, im running ubuntu live on this xp box that just stopped booting... im trying to mount the drive with "mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /mnt/drive/" but im getting an error.... how do i know if my hdd is blown?  am i even mounting it right?12:13
GoClickHow do I mount my Ubuntu install (pootched) from the live cd?12:13
lunitikactually... I guess I mean GRUB > NTBOOTMGR.EXE   :/12:13
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Stormx2http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307654 any use?12:13
BlissexGoClick: 'mount /dev/hda... /mnt/hda...' for example12:13
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NoUselunitik the linux partitions are gone, meaning no grub.conf12:13
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lunitikGoClick, mount /dev/hda2 /some/where/here12:13
moeenwhat's the default password for root ?12:14
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NoUse!tell moeen about root12:14
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lunitikNoUse, he can manually make grub boot windows...12:14
puffhttp://pastebin.com/34958212:14
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GoClickBlissex, lunitik it's a SATA drive but I think it's sda2, will it autodetect the format?12:14
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BlissexGoClick: yes.12:14
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lunitikGoClick, yes...12:14
puffintel pentium M processor 2.13Ghz12:14
GoClickIt says I need to specify filesystem stype :(12:15
GoClicksudo mount /sda2 /mnt/sda212:15
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theinepuff, linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 it is12:15
lunitikGoClick, bah... likely -t ext312:15
ArsonideAlright either the mouse or the USB port died, cause my PS2 wireless mouse works fine.12:15
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lunitiktheine, you really shouldn't tell people that... 'linux-image-2.6-686' would suffice...12:15
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GoClickwrong fstype12:16
lunitiktheine, hell... even 'linux-2.6' ... but never specific kernel...12:16
theinelunitik, damn it, i know there wass more to that...12:16
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kertratsHey, I was trying to download mplayer but the site seems to be down, anyone know anything about this?12:16
hanesi have an xp drive (hdb), and im mounting it like this " mount -t hfs /dev/hdc /mnt/drive/"... but its tellin me "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb," what am i doing wrong?12:16
intelikeydpkg -l  shows "ii  xfce4-mcs-mana 4.2.1-1ubuntu1 Settings manager for Xfce4" but 'apt-get remove xfce4-mcs-mana'  yelds  "E: Couldn't find package xfce4-mcs-mana"   what's up with that ???12:16
theinelunitik, wait a minute, I didn't tell that12:16
NoUsehanes windows isn't hfs, ntfs12:17
lunitiktheine, will allow them to upgrade kernel without thinking about it... new users should do this as it lets them get kernel security upgrades etc...12:17
hanesNoUse, thanks, i did that too... same error.....12:17
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theinelunitik, why don't you try to follow the conversation before making comments like this12:17
intelikeyhanes -t ntfs  ?12:17
NoUsehanes try vfat12:17
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[t0rc] i'm trying to install libc6.deb and it's saying I have to kill gdm. I do so, and try from a black command line that comes up, and it still says I need to kill gdm...12:17
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theinelunitik, puff needs to reinstall the kernel-image12:18
intelikeyor even -t auto   maybe hanes12:18
hanesintelikey, yeah actually i just tried hfs in desperation./...12:18
crubehanes I think you should use /mount -t ntfs * *12:18
hanesmount: you must specify the filesystem type12:18
theinelunitik, so `sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6' won't do, now will it?12:18
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NoUsehanes try vfat12:18
crubeIf I remember right 200 and XP use ntfs12:18
crubeUsually12:18
lunitiktheine, you told him (puff) to install kernel-image-2.6.10-686 because his chip is fast enough... I miss anything?12:18
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Nevadoanyone here running breezy? I just updated to the latest usplash and it doesn't seem any different whatsoever, wondered if anyone else was experiencing the same?12:18
theinelunitik, yes, actually you did12:18
puffOkay, done.12:18
lunitiktheine, apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 will12:19
puffDo i need to reboot for this to take effect?12:19
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hanesNoUse, tried that " mount -t vfat /dev/hdb /mnt/drive/12:19
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hanesmount: /dev/hdb: can't read superblock"12:19
lunitikpuff, yes12:19
|Imp|puff, probably12:19
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intelikey<hanes> i have an xp drive (hdb), and im mounting it like this " mount -t hfs /dev/hdc /mnt/drive/" <---- lol    cant mount the disk   mount a partition hanes :)12:19
NoUsehanes you have to provide mount with the partion, /dev/hdb112:19
crubehanes try to use ntfs instead of vfat12:19
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lunitik|Imp|, probably reboot for a kernel to take effect?12:19
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puff|Imp|: How  windowsy :-)  But i can see it for a kernel upgrade.12:19
|Imp|lunitik, i wasn't sure if he was reffering to JUST the kernel12:19
Homerrrcemc12:19
Homerrrubuntus booting :)12:20
theinelunitik, since when do meta-packages reinstall their dependencies?12:20
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lunitikpuff, nah... kernel is the only thing you must reboot for   :)12:20
Homerrrbah hes not here12:20
intelikeymount -t ntfs /dev/hdc<partition_number> <mount_point>12:20
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ompaulHomerr, yippee12:20
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LittleWoodenBoyhey there, can somebody help me, i've just installed the cvs version of enlightenment but kdm is telling me that my xsession is now invalid, my /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop looks like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NC4YG580.html12:20
Homerrrompaul hey :D12:20
hanesok, ive tried ntfs AND vfat and i get the same error, bad superblock....  but every time i put a number  i get mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist12:20
ryguy1233nouse, do you know seveas?12:20
lunitiktheine, he currently probably has a -383 kernel... linux-image-2.6-686 would install the latest -686 kernel...12:20
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intelikeymount -t ntfs /dev/hdc<partition_number> <mount_point>12:21
Homerrri put my old 80gb drive in there, and disconnected everything bar the dvdrw12:21
lunitik386*12:21
intelikeyhanes ^12:21
Homerrrinstalled ubuntu to it12:21
NoUseryguy1233 I've seen him on here12:21
Homerrrand yay im watching it unpack packages12:21
DaDeadis there anywat to net install Ubuntu? im trying to get away from gentoo now12:21
ompaulHomerr, I was off doing stuff for a couple of hours, all legal and involved cars shops wife and DVD12:21
crubehanes try /dev/hda1 instead of hdb12:21
DaDeadaqap12:21
moeenUbuntu APT sources don't contain MC ?12:21
lunitik!install12:21
ubotulunitik: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!12:21
lunitik!installguide12:21
ubotulunitik: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:21
NoUsemoeen what is MC?12:21
hanescrube, mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist12:21
lunitik!botslap12:21
ubotulunitik: No idea12:21
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moeenNoUse, Midnight Commander12:21
ryguy1233i believe he was the one that told me to use the fdisk/mrb option from the win98 boot disk12:21
LittleWoodenBoyanyone got an idea how i fix my enlightenment xsession?12:21
NoUsehanes hdb, hda12:22
ompaul!lart lunitik12:22
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ryguy1233do you think that would be a wise idea?12:22
NoUsehanes sorry, hdb1, not hda112:22
ryguy1233i mean the first time it didnt work for me but i think its becuase i didnt format the floppy or something12:22
hanesNoUse, mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist12:22
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ompaulHomerr, there is a greater satisfaction, that is when you do fdisk -L and there is no ntfs :)12:22
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hanesim int the devive manager.. it says there is a hdb.....12:23
Homerrrompaul haha12:23
hanesdevice12:23
moeenI must add Debian Sources to install MC (Midnight Commander) ?12:23
lunitikDaDead, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot12:23
DaDeadwoot, thanks12:23
NoUsemoeen not a good idea to mix debian and ubuntu sources12:23
Daywalker_mhh whats the sense of apci cpu throttling?12:23
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Seveasmoeen, no12:23
tdn_How do I set my default term to be Eterm in stead of this gnome-terminal thingy?12:23
Seveas!info mc12:23
ubotumc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB12:23
crubehanes, try "/mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/drive"12:23
ryguy1233seveas! hey12:24
ompaulDaywalker_, battery saving heat reduction12:24
Pr1muZim having this problem with limewire its giving me a path error with java12:24
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Seveashry ryguy123312:24
NoUsehanes run sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb and put the output in pastebin12:24
ryguy1233how are you?12:24
pufflunitik: Wait, so you're saying I *don't* have to reboot for this linux-image reinstall to take effect?12:24
lunitikubotu, installguide is for instructions on several boot methods, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/12:24
ubotulunitik: okay12:24
Pr1muZStarting LimeWire...12:24
Pr1muZJava exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...12:24
Pr1muZls: /usr/lib/j*: No such file or directory12:24
Pr1muZOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy12:24
Pr1muZYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com12:24
Pr1muZJava exec found in  /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/12:24
NoUse!tell hanes about pastebin12:24
Pr1muZOOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java = Error] 12:24
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lunitik!installguide12:24
ubotuinstallguide is, like, totally, for instructions on several boot methods, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/12:24
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Daywalker_ompaul, I have it at 62% but my heat is still at 58C...12:24
SeveasDO NOT PASTE IN HERE12:24
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DaDeadaw no cd net boot12:24
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intelikeyyeah crube i think hanes was trying to mount a disk and not a partition on the disk12:24
lunitikpuff, yes you do.12:24
moeenSeveas, how can I install MC then ?12:24
GoClickThanks Blissex, lunitik12:24
crubeintelikey,  he said it's an XP partition.12:25
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hanesNoUse, i dont see any output from that at all....12:25
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Seveasmoeen, enable universe12:25
pufflunitik: Ah-hah.12:25
Seveas!repos12:25
lunitikGoClick, No problem  :)12:25
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:25
intelikeycrube nm12:25
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ompaul!tell moeen about repos12:25
Seveas^-- moeen12:25
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Daywalker_lunitik, do you need floppy disk network install=12:25
ompauldoh!12:25
hanesintelikey, that was because every time i put a number after it it says no partition12:25
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zum1rpi didnt fucking know, it doesnt say not to anywhere12:25
zum1rpyou got to freak out and ban me?12:25
ompaul!conduct12:25
ubotuconduct is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view12:26
theinepuff, could you check what directories you have under /lib/modules now?12:26
keithi have a weird problem when trying to install the sun package for java- i find it in the synaptic package manager, but it sayst his when attempting to install:12:26
zum1rpoh12:26
zum1rpnevermind12:26
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline12:26
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zum1rpx;12:26
intelikeyhanes i don't think you will have any luck mounting /dev/hd<letter-only>   :)12:26
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Stormx2who the hell told me to do debfoster!12:26
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lunitikDaywalker_, no12:26
ryguy1233seveas, i dont know where we left off but some other people were helping me too... one told me to ues the ultimate boot cd and from that use the free fdisk and today i tried that and it didnt work and i dont know if told you this but when i tried the window98 boot disk it gave me the error, invalid system disk...12:26
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Daywalker_oh ok12:27
lunitikDaywalker_, all you actually need is the netinst CD's it points to...12:27
hanesintelikey, i know, just trying :)12:27
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intelikeyhanes you can do a  "fdisk -l "  and see where it is....12:27
ryguy1233do i need to use windows to format the floppy?12:27
puff2.6.10-5-386  2.6.10-5-68612:27
Daywalker_lunitik, I recently installed ubuntu on my laptop which just comes with a fdd12:27
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hanesintelikey,  fdisk -l prints out NOTHING12:27
keithactually whatever i install is reporting E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline12:27
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lunitikDaywalker_, ok... then you probably do  ;)12:27
NoUsehanes if you don't see any ouput then there are no partiions on that disk12:27
lunitikDaywalker_, if you have another system... you can do the LocalNet option it talks about...12:28
crubehanes,  are you sure you didn't accidently format your whole drive while installing ubuntu? O.o12:28
hanesNoUse,  oh ... so partitions sometimes disappear over night? :)12:28
intelikeyhanes in a console/terminal ?12:28
Daywalker_fdd install is really easy ;)12:28
NoUsehanes apparently12:28
hanesintelikey, yeah........12:28
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Daywalker_just 4 3"5 dics and its done :D12:28
intelikeytry it as roof.12:28
intelikeyroot12:28
hanescrube, no i didnt do that hah12:28
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pufftheine: but I had both of those before.12:28
Madpilotintelikey: roof? ;)12:28
crubehanes,  good :D I accidenly did that once. But then again its just windows :D12:29
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hanesintelikey, i am root...12:29
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zum1rphow does that past site work12:29
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zum1rppaste *12:29
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NoUsezum1rp there are intructions there12:29
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hanescrube, yeah,,, you know incidentally if there are any ubuntu volunteers here you should try and incorporate the drake (mandrake) partition app... it makes stuff liek this and a lot simpler... of course mandrakemove crapped out on this box so.....12:30
Stormx2Im gonna fucking kill ubuntu doing this...12:30
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Stormx2jesus12:30
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zum1rpno12:30
zum1rpdude12:30
zum1rpi used it12:30
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zum1rpi just dont know what to do now12:30
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lunitikStormx2, chill... no one will help you if you show ignorance...12:30
zum1rpwait?12:30
zum1rplol12:30
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Madpilotzum1rp: now post your pastebin URL here and tell ppl what's in it12:30
hanesanyways thanks for the help12:30
Stormx2lunitik: And i won't like you if my gnome menu fucks up ^_^;;12:31
hanesawesome product btw12:31
lunitikStormx2, wtf do I have to do with it?12:31
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zum1rphttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1734 errors when trying to run limewire, has to do with java and paths12:31
intelikeyhanes no your not root.....  if you try fdisk -l as root it will work, if you run it as a user it prints nothing...... hanes  i just tried it both ways.12:31
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kdekorteI upgraded my breezy build today and now in Xorg.0.log I am getting the error "RADEONDRIScreenInit failed because of version mismatch. [dri]  libDRI version is 5.0.0 but version 4.0.x is needed. [dri]  disabling DRI. Is this a know issue I am using the xorg radeon driver and NOT fglrx12:31
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Stormx2lunitik: Hmm, you were the one who suggested debfoster.12:31
Madpilotzum1rp: you've got the JRE installed? (it's not pre-installed with Ubuntu...)12:31
zum1rpyes its installed12:31
theinepuff, so which one where you using?12:31
lunitikzum1rp, do you have java installed? is 'java' in your path? (at least as a symlink)12:31
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syndshould the upgarde to breezy as easy as changing all instances of hoary in the sources.list to breezy and doing an apt-get update || apt-get dist-upgrade12:32
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Webby`Help! How do I get gtkPod to work? i get an error like this: TunesDB '/media/RY-RICOS IP/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not match checksum12:32
lunitikStormx2, heh... debfoster shouldn't have broken anything if you said yes to ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop ...12:32
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zum1rpwhats the command to add it to path?12:32
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lunitikzum1rp, depends... where'd you put it?12:32
Stormx2lunitik: Yeh its almost worked12:32
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lunitikzum1rp, its easier to symlink though...12:33
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Stormx2lunitik: I just want to get rid of the "Debian" menu in my GNOME menu. Would SMEG do it?12:33
zum1rpi dont know what symlink is12:33
zum1rphow do i symlink12:33
lunitikStormx2, maybe... just remove 'menu' though...12:33
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intelikeyzum1rp man ln12:33
kdekortesymlink: ln -s [source]  [dest] 12:33
sickFLameguys is there another difference between ubuntu and kubuntu EXCEPT KDE ???12:33
ArsonideHey in Xchat my user information keeps resetting to my real name - is there any way to get it to save?12:33
Stormx2lunitik: ...how12:33
lunitikzum1rp, ln -s /where/java/bin/is /usr/bin/12:34
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crubesickFLame, I've noticed no difference. Been using both :P12:34
lunitikStormx2, use Synaptic ... the package 'menu' provides that crap Debian menu  :/12:34
NoUsesickFLame they are almost the same, its really just different install discs12:34
NoUsesickFLame you can install ubuntu and then apt-get instlal kubuntu-desktop and have kubuntu12:35
zum1rpok lunitik i did that, same error12:35
kdekorteAny idea why DRI on my machine broke after todays breezy update?12:35
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ColonelKernelif my room temperature is 82c, is it acceptable/stable to have an athlonXP barton 2500+ running at 57c under load? I want to be sure this box is stable for gaming.12:35
lunitikzum1rp, what did you type?12:35
kdekorteI have a libDRI version mismatch12:35
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sickFLamethanks for help !!!12:35
ColonelKerneli applied arctic silver to it and I have a copper heatsink on it, and the stock amd fan b/c its got good rpms on it12:35
zum1rpln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04 /usr/bin/12:35
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theinezum1rp, I'd be careful with the `ln -s' command that lunitik gave you, as ln links relatively12:36
MadpilotColonelKernel: 82 C is unlikely as a room temp - did you mean 82 F?12:36
ColonelKernelbut im thinking 57c under load is kinda high even for an Athlon - at least if one wants stable functioning with games12:36
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lunitikzum1rp, grrr... no... ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/java12:36
lunitikzum1rp, probably12:36
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zum1rpsame erorr.12:36
crubeColonelKernel,  you using your computer in SAUNA?12:36
ColonelKernelmaddler, yes, my apologies, 82c and my house would be on fire12:36
zum1rperror *12:36
ColonelKernelMadpilot i mean12:36
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ColonelKernelGD I hate booting into windows partition12:36
pufftheine: I presume I was using the 2.6.10-5-686, but it'd be nice to be sure.  How do I check?12:36
theinepuff, uname -a12:37
puffAlso, I'd like to understand this error in dmesg:  Warning: CPU frequency is 800000, cpufreq assumed 2133000 kHz.12:37
lunitiktheine, I told him to say /usr/bin/ before... thus it would link inside that dir...12:37
ColonelKernelpuff, I think they have different versions of that out12:37
zum1rpso what was the other thing i could try?12:37
theinepuff, tells you other things too12:37
puffYup, uname -a says i'm using 2.6.10-5-686.12:37
MadpilotColonelKernel: 82 F = 27 C, if it's that hot I'd say that 57 C from your CPU isn't unreasonable12:37
puffColonelKernel: Different versions of?12:37
theinelunitik, sure12:37
lunitikzum1rp, $JAVADIR/bin/java is what you want to link to /usr/bin/   ...12:37
zum1rp/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin to /usr/bin/12:38
zum1rpyeah12:38
Stormx2lunitik: I removed the menu package. Still there, mind.12:38
zum1rpi did that12:38
lunitikzum1rp, no12:38
ColonelKernelMadpilot, im looking specifically to see if that will hurt stability in game performance on the box12:38
theinepuff, right, and you did `sudo apt-get install -reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-686'?12:38
lunitik/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java  :|12:38
Stormx2lunitik: I'll log off and on, see if that makes any difference.12:38
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crubeColonelKernel,  for the stability you just have to test it. but I don't think it'll be a problem12:39
ColonelKernelMadpilot, ut2004 and im gonn attempt msfs2004 with cedega12:39
pufftheine: Yeah, still haven't rebooted though, cleaning up some open files, sessions, etc.12:39
zum1rpnetadmin@ubuntu:~$ sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/12:39
zum1rpln: `/usr/bin//java/java': File exists12:39
MadpilotColonelKernel: from what I've read, temp. stability is a very individual thing for computers - the only way to really know is to test the sucker12:39
zum1rpoops i wasnt suppose to paste that :X12:39
zum1rpsorry12:39
zum1rplol12:39
ColonelKerneldamn it12:39
Daywalker_how can I get the cpu load in percent via the shell?12:39
lunitikzum1rp, remove the file and do it again (from /usr/bin)12:39
theinepuff, ok, good luck12:39
ColonelKernelok then thanks12:39
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Stormx2Nope12:39
zum1rpremove which file12:39
lunitikzum1rp, you got the command right this time though  :D12:39
Stormx2"Debian" menu is still there.12:39
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zum1rplol12:40
lunitikzum1rp, /usr/bin/java12:40
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zum1rpok whats the command to do that12:40
ColonelKernelim doing the whole "heat up the arctic silver and then cool it off" deal now12:40
lunitikzum1rp, rm /usr/bin/java12:40
ColonelKernelwhen the room is cool the box runs @ 52 under load12:40
theinezum1rp, how did you actually install java?12:40
zum1rpyes12:40
zum1rpoh12:40
zum1rpuhh12:40
Stormx2lunitik: Removing the package "menu" didn't help...12:40
intelikeywhat is the smallest window manager i can get from the ubuntu sources ?       xfce4 not accepted(unusable)12:40
zum1rpi got a .rpg file alien'd it to a deb file dpkg'd config'd and made a make file12:40
lunitikzum1rp, then just hit up till you see that ln -s command and hit enter again...12:41
lunitikStormx2, it should have... strange...12:41
ColonelKernelI have this cpu fan that would make it significantly cooler but its SO loud, its like 54 decebels or something, so loud you couldnt take a nap in the same room with the thing12:41
zum1rplol12:41
ColonelKerneland thats unacceptable12:41
zum1rpi did the correct cmd12:41
zum1rpafter rm'ing the file12:41
zum1rpand get the same exact erorr12:41
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zum1rperorr *12:41
zum1rperrr12:41
zum1rperror *12:41
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Stormx2lunitik: The package has been completely removed and its still there :O12:41
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ColonelKernelthe fan pushes like 55cfm - as much as a bathroom vent fan, I couldnt beleive it12:41
ColonelKernelbut its unbeleivably loud12:42
MadpilotColonelKernel: I've heard good things about the big Zalman "flower" heatsinks, esp. the ones with 120mm fans, WRT being both cool and quiet12:42
Stormx2and to put on top of that I can't get smeg installed either.12:42
ColonelKernel7500 cfm too12:42
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Madpilotmight wind of getting one myself, because my CPU heatsink fan is by *far* the loudest fan in this box12:42
theinezum1rp, one option is to remove all the java stuff you installed this way and install it again from the hoary-extras repository12:42
Madpilot*wind up, even12:42
lunitikzum1rp, ugh... sudo rm -f /usr/bin/java ; sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/12:42
ColonelKernelMadpilot, a new heatsink aint a possibility right now, besides ive got an all copper heatsink and arctic silver on it12:42
zum1rpi did12:42
zum1rpand12:42
ColonelKernelmaybe in a week12:42
zum1rpit couldn't find the package12:42
lunitikStormx2, after logging in and out?12:43
intelikey? question, what is the smallest window manager i can get from the ubuntu sources ?       xfce4 not accepted(unusable)       anyone ?12:43
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ompaulonly 68 users ..12:43
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Stormx2dude12:44
Stormx2what the fuck.12:44
ompaulnet split12:44
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Stormx2hmm?12:44
ompaulthe nice networks were all out of sync12:44
Stormx2oh12:44
Stormx2fair enough12:44
Stormx2that makes me in-sync12:44
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ompaulokay so kornbluth ain't so hot today12:46
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sk545hey, has anyone not been able to set brightness in xine-ui?12:49
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sunhi im using kino and i want to export to mpeg, but it says "mplex: command not found" what package is mplex in?12:51
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-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else12:55
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>12:55
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HiddenWolflunitik, could you play some file in totem for me, go fullscreen (press F), then move the mouse, and wait a bit. See if the UI goes away again?12:55
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!Md:*! sorry for the troubles. today's ircd upgrade was a bit toxic. I just downgraded the ircds on the hubs12:55
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lunitikHiddenWolf, I don't have any codecs installed right now...12:55
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ArsonideSo wait does this Cedega thing work with all windows games?12:56
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NoUseArsonide no12:56
crubeArsonide, no12:56
Arsonideoh12:56
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HiddenWolflunatic any file will do, I just want to know if the UI times out and goes away after a reasonable time.12:56
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lunitikHiddenWolf, I suppose now is as good a time as any to get them though... you got a while?12:56
crubeArsonide,  I think you cant find a list of working games from cedegas website12:56
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lunitikHiddenWolf, I don't have any media files...12:56
ArsonideYeah I saw it. It's pretty big though.12:56
lunitikArsonide, no12:56
Stormx2lunitik.... suggestions? :(12:56
Stormx2lunitik: I found something.12:57
lunitikStormx2, you fucked up pretty bad... how much are you against reinstalling?12:57
HiddenWolflunitik, you don't even need a file really12:57
intelikeymy xterm is broke for user   ;(12:57
Stormx2lunitik: Uhg12:57
crubeArsonide,  it is. MANY other games that dont need the newest direct x work too.12:57
Stormx2lunitik: Yeh I could do that12:57
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Arsonideow.12:57
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Stormx2i've had problems with GAIM not removing itself properly, too.12:57
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holycowheh, i guess the bot kids are getting tired of note being able to spam so they are flooding12:58
chrismywhat is this? bots?12:58
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lunitikHiddenWolf, Totem won't even start here... (gstreamer)12:58
Stormx2ADMN'PWND12:58
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HiddenWolflunitik, ok, never mind12:58
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Stormx2someone said something about a "net split"?12:58
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ArsonideXChat is not remembering my user name, it keeps trying to use my real name for IRC...and I don't like that, I don't see any options to make it automatically remember Arsonide.12:58
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Stormx2Stormx2: Apparently you guys arn't synced.12:58
chrismyanyone can help me with booting??12:58
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Stormx2chrismy: I can try.12:59
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Stormx2rofl.12:59
chrismyStormx2: oh thank you12:59
dbw:D12:59
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Stormx2chrismy: What is the problem?12:59
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crubeArsonide,  does this happen when you restart from the menu, and choose to save your desktop layout12:59
!Md:*! sorry for the troubles. today's ircd upgrade was a bit toxic01:00
chrismywell i had much problem for 24 hours already. and no one has the best solution01:00
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chrismyStormx2: it is like this......01:00
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Arsonidecrube, Don't know what that means, if I leave XChat and come back, it tries to use my real name, not Arsonide, and I have to type it in every time.01:00
crubeArsonide, ok I dont know what the problem is sorry01:01
Stormx2lunitik: Any way I can order breezy CDs when they come out? I have already ordered some, but when they came i lost the packaging and there was something about a number I can quote01:01
crubeArsonide,  I dont have my real name used anywhere in ubuntu so I dont have that problem01:01
Stormx2FUCK IT SOUTH PARK IS ON! BYE LOSERS!01:01
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lunitikStormx2, shipit.ubuntu.com01:01
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DephtI think that says it all....01:01
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lunitikStormx2, will be a _while_ though...01:01
chrismyStormx2: i have 2 HDD. i want to have 2 OS. One with linux and the other with windows xp. so now i have reinstalled windows on the first HDD(primary master) but linux on the second HDD (secondary master) won't boot01:02
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lunitikchrismy, thats not a linux help question... you need to edit boot.ini now and add your ubuntu install...01:02
darkheartchrismy You don't really want to install Windows after you install Linux. It will overwrite your MBR.01:02
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lunitikchrismy, due to what darkheart just said...01:03
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chrismyi mean i have reinstalled windows. so now what should i do to have linux back?01:03
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guidedspirithello01:03
lunitikchrismy, it can be done... but its a pain... search around google...01:04
chrismyii ahve 2 HDD not dual OS in a HDD01:04
theinechrismy, use a live-0cd01:04
theinelive-cd01:04
lunitikguidedspirit, hey01:04
chrismytheine: ayayayaay thatis what i do not have. only installation CD :(01:04
guidedspiritubuntu is having prolblems with my pcmcia device on my laptop01:04
theeilcan windows be moved without a window manager?01:04
guidedspiritit doesnt work :(01:04
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crubechrismy,  when you reinstalled xp it made it's own mbr, and it doesn't know your ubuntu hd.01:04
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Dephttheeil: no01:04
darkheartchrismy Yes, use some form of media to boot into linux, then maybe you can replace the bootloader with something that will recognize both Windows and Linux.01:04
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theinechrismy, are you on dial up?01:04
chrismytheeil: i really do not know about booting that is why i need help and still not solve01:04
chrismysolved01:05
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chrismytheine: no broadband01:05
lunitikcrube, there is only one mbr... the first 8 megs on a disk...01:05
chrismydarkheart: how do you mean?01:05
theinechrismy, then I would recommend to download the ubuntu live-cd01:05
chrismytheine:  :(01:05
theinechrismy, you could also use damnsmalllinux i guess...01:05
guidedspiritcan anyone help me? ubuntu doesnt recognize my pcmcia port on my laptop01:05
darkheartchrismy Did you create a boot disk?01:06
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Stormx2chrismy: You need a boot disk.01:06
chrismytheine: ah i have that. but is it live? or can it do the boot? (grub)01:06
Stormx2chrismy: Or a live CD, and you need to install GRUB into the MBR01:06
chrismydarkheart: erm boot disk for window or linux?01:06
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theinechrismy, i never used it but i think it's a live cd01:06
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Stormx2Im reinstalling this now01:06
NoUsedoes the ubuntu Cd have any kind of rescue mode?01:06
theinechrismy, or live-stick or whatever...01:06
chrismyStormx2: how do i do the diskette? i think that will be the easiest way for me01:07
darkheartchrismy I meant Linux, but it looks like you are getting enough help =) I'll stop talking to create less confusion.01:07
Stormx2Im so pissed off that I could kill something, but by any rate, ubuntu is better than windows.01:07
crubeStormx2,  kill Bill gates? Solves 2 problems01:07
chrismyStormx2: same here. very frustrated01:07
guidedspiritim fustrated too01:07
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chrismyso guys. do you suggest that i install ONE OS AT A TIME?01:07
guidedspiritubuntu doesnt recognize my pcmcia port01:07
Stormx2chrismy: You can either make a boot floppy that boots your existing ubuntu, or get a Live CD and install from there01:07
Ngguidedspirit: what kind of laptop do you have?01:08
NoUsechrismy install windows first, then Ubuntu01:08
chrismyStormx2: ermm how do i do the boot floopy?01:08
theinechrismy, anyway, you need to boot the live-cd, mount your ubuntu partition, chroot into it, issue 'grub-install /dev/hda' (if /dev/hda is the harddisk you want to boot from) and reboot01:08
GoClickDNS lookups are insanly slow on my Ubuntu machine but very fast on my Windows machine, even for domains I've never looked up before, ideas?01:08
NoUsechrismy thats the best way01:08
darkheartchrismy You have to install one OS at a time. But if you want it w/ windows/linux, you have to install Windows first.01:08
Stormx2chrismy: No idea01:08
guidedspiritcompaq presario01:08
Stormx2!bootdisk01:08
ubotuStormx2: I haven't a clue01:08
Stormx2!boot01:08
chrismyNoUse: yes that is what i am doing all this while01:08
ubotuStormx2: I don't know, could you explain it?01:08
crubechrismy,  I suggest installing linux After xp, so that linux will install grub and you wil be able to boot to linux01:08
Stormx2gah.01:08
chrismyNoUse: i have 2 HDD remember01:08
guidedspiritng:compaq presario01:08
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spiderwormchrismy: if you come up with a way to install multiple os'es at once on the same machine etc etc, let me know01:08
chrismyNoUse: one OS for each HDD01:08
NoUsechrismy yeah but no matter what you have, Windows will blow away the boot record for it01:08
dug_____________Q about upgrading to breezy.  The colony 3 CD installer just hangs after I select the partition choice.  Anyone else see this problem?01:09
Stormx2chrismy: Would it be possible for you to reinstall Ubuntu01:09
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theinechrismy, but i have to warn you, things can go wrong, and if you don't feel like doing this, i would recopmmend to look for other solutions...01:09
chrismyspiderworm: hmm i tried 2 OS in one HDD but not seperate OS in seperated HDD01:09
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Madpilotdug: it's still a beta release, remember. that said, have you checked the md5sum of your downloads?01:09
chrismyStormx2: so i need to take of the windows HDD efore installing ubuntu?01:09
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guidedspiritNg: its a compaq presario01:10
chrismytheine: oh yes things go really wrong andi am very angry now01:10
crubechrismy,  No! keep it in so that linux will know where to install grub01:10
GoClickI changed the contents of /etc/hosts to include the new name which I've put in /etc/hosts and the machine still freaks out on me when I try and log in says it can't lookup the name and stuff, very confusing01:10
Arcanoidhi everyone01:10
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Stormx2OK Heres your options chrismy: 1]  Download and burn a live CD, and from the install GRUB into the master boot record 2]  Make a boot disk that boots to your existing ubuntu, and either use that when you want linux or use the opertunity to install grub 3]  Reinstall ubuntu, that will install grub automaticly.01:10
dug_____________Madpilot: thanks, I know, but I followed the other instructions for upgrading from hoary to breezy and it hosed my whole system.  I wanted to reinstall from CD but that doesn't work either.01:10
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chrismycrube: so i keep the first and second HDD.?01:10
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theinechrismy, I'm sorry to hear that01:10
crubechrismy,  yes and when installing grub it will know there's BOTH windows AND linux and it will make it possible to boot to BOTH01:10
synd_how do you check what version of ubuntu is installed?01:11
synd_via terminal01:11
chrismyStormx2: i can;t do that. not at least for now. i have no CD burner01:11
Stormx2hmm01:11
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Madpilotdug_____________: no idea, I'm still running Hoary myself. (also, could you please shorten your nick again? it's just a bit long...)01:11
Stormx2maybe a boot disk?01:11
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dug_____________the instructions here didn't work (plus the text doesn't even show up in firefox): http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy01:11
Stormx2Im not sure if anyone knows anything about making a ubuntu boot disk?01:11
synd_anyone?01:11
chrismycrube: but i did that and linux took over and windows cant be booted01:11
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Stormx2synd_: Umm01:11
chrismyStormx2: yes how do i do that boot disk?01:11
Arcanoidi did domething wrong with my ubuntu and i messed it all up. i uninstalled xorg trough synaptic and installed xfree. now system doesnt load x anymore not even from recovery mode. can i uninstall xfree with apt-get and reinstall xorg?01:12
Stormx2System > About Ubuntu?01:12
Madpilotdug_____________: check the wiki too, it usually has more info than the guide01:12
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Stormx2or do you want it specificly in terminal?01:12
chrismyStormx2: huh? i am totaly stucked in windows now01:12
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synd_Stormx2: in term.01:12
crubeArcanoid,  yes you can.01:12
theinechrismy, and when you couln't boot windows anymore, you reinstalled it (windows)?01:12
darkheartArcanoid If you want to keep xfree, you may fix things by running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'01:12
NoUseArcanoid apt-get remove xfree; apt-get install xorg01:12
Stormx2synd_: No idea.01:12
chrismytheine: yes and when i can't boot linux i reinstall ubuntu on and on01:13
Stormx2chrismy: Are you prepared to re-install ubuntu?01:13
chrismyStormx2: oh yes for the cost!01:13
Stormx2Hmm?01:13
chrismybut that is the best way?01:13
chrismyL(01:13
chrismy:(01:13
Stormx2chrismy: No01:13
Stormx2Best bet is a live CD01:13
theinechrismy, have you tried to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst in order to boot windows after you reinstalled ubuntu?01:13
Arcanoidcrube, i remember it was a longer name for xfree and xorg do you really think it's so short?01:13
chrismytheine: i have tried many things with many people's help01:14
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darkheartchrismy I don't know this for sure, but if your drive with Ubuntu is bootable, you may be able to boot into it if you make it the master drive.01:14
Arcanoidnouse, crube, i remember it was a longer name for xfree and xorg do you really think it's so short?01:14
Stormx2theine: *sigh*01:14
chrismydarkheart: that is the thing i do not understand01:14
Stormx2theine: Not the problem01:14
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NoUse!info xserver-xfree8601:14
ubotuxserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu26 (hoary), Packaged size: 5586 kB, Installed size: 15584 kB01:14
NoUse!info xserver-xorg01:14
ubotuxserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 15220 kB01:14
Stormx2theine: Winblows has installed its own bootloader, he can't reach linux01:14
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theineStormx2, I know, editing menu.lst still helps01:15
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Stormx2theine: Not in this case01:15
theineStormx2, smart ass01:15
Stormx2theine: GRUB has been removed from the MBR.01:15
chrismydarkheart: so how do you mean? i make a drive master then install one of the OS then disable it. then put in another disk as master to install windows?01:15
Stormx2theine: Therefore editting its config would be non-applicable01:15
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Stormx2theine: It wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference.01:16
crubechrismy, You could try making the boot disk for ubuntu. Googlefor it or something. one option is to use the boot disk every time you want to boot to ubuntu01:16
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Arcanoidok i give it a try01:16
theineStormx2, i recall that i specificly asked him whether he edited menu.lst _after_ he reinstall _ubuntu_01:16
chrismytheine: i have tried but just do not know why01:16
chris__hi,real linux newb here. i partioned my ext hard drive with ext3 partion and cant access it ,owne is root how do i change01:16
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Stormx2theine: as I recall I didn't.01:16
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theineStormx2, when there _was_ grub in the mbr01:16
Stormx2theine: Wait, misunderstood.01:16
Stormx2theine: Disregard that.01:16
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chrismycrube: sure but i am too weary trying now....zzzzzz01:17
Stormx2theine: Hmm. OK. So editting grub caused the problem01:17
darkheartchrismy No, sorry, disregard. It wouldn't work.01:17
Stormx2theine: But editting it now will not fix it01:17
chrismydarkheart: how do you mean?01:17
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theineStormx2, no, he should reinstall ubuntu and then edit it01:17
Stormx2theine: Because he reinstalled windows? Or is that incorrect01:17
ryguy1233theine, you have a grub/mbr problem too?01:17
theineryguy1233, no, chrismy has one01:18
Stormx2theine: Or if he couldn't face a reinstall make a boot disk to run his existing ubuntu system and install grub?01:18
chrismyyes i reinstall one after one because they can't boot and no menu for me to choose01:18
ryguy1233ohh, it is tricky..01:18
chrismyryguy1233: here :(01:18
Stormx2chrismy: You have windows installed?01:18
chrismyoh yes very very ricky and terrible01:18
theinechrismy, if i were you, i'd reinstall ubuntu now and then look at /boot/grub/menu.lst01:18
chrismyStormx2: yes i am in windows now01:18
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chrismywho made this server thing?01:19
Stormx2chrismy: Maybe you should reinstall ubuntu. That will reinstall GRUB and let you pick between ubuntu and windows01:19
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Quest-MasterThere are different Freenode servers linked together01:19
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ubotuOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of gnonthgol)01:19
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Stormx2Hi ubotu01:19
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Stormx2^_^01:19
chrismyStormx2: will you be here later or something? i need rest i am gonna collapse01:19
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Quest-MasterHence the names like Herbert and stuff01:19
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ryguy1233theine, so you know a thing or two about the grub?01:20
Quest-MasterSometimes they lose the connection between each other01:20
Quest-MasterWhich is when this happens, called Netsplit01:20
chrismyQuest-Master: so why they do that?01:20
Stormx2chrismy: Me too. Its 20 past midnight here.01:20
MadpilotI was on the wrong side of that netsplit...01:20
Quest-Masterchrismy: They don't.. it just happens.01:20
chrismyQuest-Master: something like CLASH?01:20
theinechrismy, there's actually an example for booting windows from any given partition01:20
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chris__hi,real linux newb here. i partioned my ext hard drive with ext3 partion and cant access it ,owne is root how do i change01:20
theineryguy1233, that would not be totally exaggerated i guess01:20
chrismytheine: i am not sure anymore. i have tried till i drop01:20
ryguy1233i was recommended to use a win98 bootdisk and the fdisk/mbr option but i have windows xp... is that a good idea?01:20
Stormx2chris__: Access it from what?01:20
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chrismyryguy1233: tried that01:21
chrismyfailed01:21
chris__cant read and write to it01:21
theinechrismy, try what? editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?01:21
chrismyno no01:21
ryguy1233should I? my situation is a little diff.,right?01:21
Stormx2chris__: Linux distro installers should format their own space01:21
chrismytheine: no but like what ryguy1233said about the win98 fdisk /MBR01:21
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chris__remormat with ubuntu?01:21
Stormx2:-/01:21
chrismytheine: by doing your way too failed01:21
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chrismytheine: so what is your code to trick windows xp?01:22
!Md:*! most important servers have been downgraded now, and the "can't talk with services" issue has been fixed. +E mode has been temporarily disabled until it can be fixed01:22
ryguy1233should i still try it? does anyone know if it would work?01:22
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theinechrismy, I don't know who the hell told you guys about using a win98 bootdisk, but editing /boot/grub/menu.lst is the way of getting it to work01:22
NoUseryguy1233 what are you going to tyr?01:22
chrismytheine: now now do not be rude. if we can't do it in one way we do and find another way01:23
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Stormx2yeh i agree with theine here, so long as grub is still on the MBR. If windows has installed its own bootloader, it won't make a difference.01:23
ryguy1233the win98 bootdisk, even tho i have winxp... would that not be the right way to go?01:23
chrismytheine: learning process hurts01:23
ryguy1233i couldnt find a recovery disk at the torrent site i use01:23
NoUseryguy1233 it won't work01:23
lunitikStormx2, umm... wrong.01:23
theinechrismy, sorry, i fully understand01:23
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NoUseryguy1233 win98 doesn't understand NTFS01:23
lunitikStormx2, Windows buts its own stuff in the MBR...01:23
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chrismytheine: yes the one  should swear is ME01:23
lunitikputs*01:24
chrismyhahahha01:24
theinechrismy, so did you actually try to edit menu.lst or not?01:24
chrismytheine: told ya :) EVERYTHING so far01:24
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NoUseryguy1233 did your computer company not give you a WinXP Cd?01:24
sk543anyone have trouble adjusting brightness in xine-ui?01:24
chrismytheine: i even did the stupid way you said about the win98 fdisk /mbr01:24
Stormx2lunitik: But would it remove/take priority over grub?01:24
chrismy:D01:24
ryguy1233i dont think they did... i got an hp media center M380n from compUSA01:25
chrismytheine: so what is your suggestion?01:25
chrismytheine: ok let me tell you again01:25
theinechrismy, I find it hard to believe that chainloading the windows partition won't work01:25
Stormx2chrismy: If your on the same machine, there are tools you can use From winblows to edit files on your ext3 partition.01:25
lunitikStormx2, yes01:25
Stormx2edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to include ubuntu in it.01:25
Stormx2That is, if grub is still there01:26
Stormx2^_^01:26
lunitikStormx2, he needs to run 'grub-install /dev/hda' from a livecd... or reinstall Ubuntu...01:26
chrismytheine: i have installed windows xo on the first HDD( primary master). so how do i install linux on the other HDD without interferring with the MBR or whatever you call that01:26
ryguy1233lunitik, should i try that too?01:26
chrismytheine: you better believe it01:26
lunitikryguy1233, you in a livecd right now? if so, yes...01:27
theinechrismy, you install ubuntu on the second harddrive, but grub on the first one (where windows is)01:27
chrismyStormx2: i have that..erm i think i have rmoved that all along :(01:27
ryguy1233im on a linspire live cd01:27
lunitikryguy1233, then you need to add Windows to your menu.lst ...01:27
NoUseryguy1233 linux is gone right?01:27
theinechrismy, no problem there01:27
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chrismytheine:no problem?01:27
theinechrismy, no01:27
lunitikryguy1233, Windows won't have touched your menu.lst, so ignore whoever is telling you that...01:27
ryguy1233yes, i right-clicked my computer, then manage, then deleted them that way01:27
Stormx2lunitik: But i've heard that grub is still there, and he could just edit the config to include ubuntu? Because he editted it when he first installed ubuntu and thats where the problems started?01:28
NoUselunitik ryguy1233 doens't have a menu.lst all his linux partitions are gone01:28
chrismytheine: so suppose to work? i mean first install windows on the first HDD the linux on the second HDD?01:28
ryguy1233ok, so i should find menu.lst on hda101:28
ryguy1233?01:28
lunitikStormx2, GRUB will still be installed on his Linux partition... but its no longer in his MBR ....01:28
theinechrismy, yes01:28
chrismytheine: ahhh what a relief01:28
apokryphosryguy1233: in /boot/grub01:28
NoUseryguy1233 if linux is gone, you don't have menu.list01:28
chrismytheine: well i do HOPE it works!:D01:28
lunitikNoUse, he has mounted / ?01:28
gabrielarkanoid here! hei guys! i dont rememberyour nicks but i removed xfree and installed xorg. all came back smooth. Thanks a lot!!!01:28
Stormx2lunitik: Damnit thats what I said all along. And another guy kept telling me different >_<01:28
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NoUselunitik he is on a live CD01:29
theinechrismy, and if windows doesn't show up in the boot menu, don't panic!01:29
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chrismytheine: erm that was what i have been...01:29
Stormx2chrismy: Get a live CD or reinstall01:29
theinechrismy, it's pretty easy to add the proper entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:29
lunitikNoUse, cool... he still needs to mount /   to allow him to edit the files on it...01:29
crubechrismy, in the install process it will ask you if you want to install grub to your windows drive. You should choose Yes to that. It should then ask you witch one you will like to boot in when you start your computer01:29
chrismytheine: you sure?01:29
theinechrismy, it probably will show up anyway...01:29
NoUselunitik he nuked the partions from inside windows01:29
theinechrismy, yes01:29
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NoUselunitik there is nothing to mount01:29
chrismyStormx2: aww please i can't do that and not for now01:29
lunitikNoUse, then he needs to reinstall Linux....01:29
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NoUselunitik he doesn't want Linux01:30
NoUselunitik he wants his Windows MBR back01:30
crubeNoUse,  who?01:30
ryguy1233and if it helps... i am getting error 22 from grub01:30
NoUsecrube ryguy123301:30
lunitikryguy1233, that means no fs ...01:30
crubeRydekull, g01:30
GoClickDNS lookups are insanly slow on my Ubuntu machine but very fast on my Windows machine, even for domains I've never looked up before, ideas?01:30
chrismycrube: hmm yes but that was(yes was) when i install them in the same HDD. but now i am seperating them. not all in one but one with their own housing:D01:30
Stormx2chrismy: Get a friend to download and burn a live CD, or if you fancy a wait you can order some CDs01:30
lunitikryguy1233, just throw in the Windows CD ... it will overwrite the MBR again01:30
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NoUselunitik he doesn't have one01:31
lunitikryguy1233, if this is what you want (no Linux)01:31
NoUselunitik thats the fun part01:31
cruberyguy1233, do you have windows xp?01:31
ryguy1233yes01:31
Stormx2f0001:31
ryguy1233i could DL a windows CD at a torrent site on a friends computer if i can find one01:31
lunitikryguy1233, Windows site has instructions of removing Linux from the system... this is the wrong place to ask!!!01:31
chrismyStormx2: friends? hahahhaah i can tell you in this huge town, i am the one here who has the initiative to learn linux commandlines01:32
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Stormx2you might want to try #windows lol01:32
gabrieli tryed installing xfree because i read that synaptics touchpad is different in xorg. i would like to activate the handy function that is in windows synaptics driver for long drag and drop. you need to tap before you release the drag and drop. is there a similar function in ubuntu?01:32
cruberyguy1233,  Boot to windows xp cd, and from the first screen choose R he recovery console. Type your administrator password, and type "fixmbr". It will create a new MBR to your windows and when you restart you should be able to boot in windows.01:32
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lunitikryguy1233, http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458   look at that... good day sir01:32
ryguy1233crube, i dont have a windows cd :(01:32
chrismyStormx2: generally as you know peple are sticked with windows due to its 'prettiness'01:32
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ryguy1233k, let me see...01:32
Stormx2chrismy: But they wouldn't burn you a CD?01:32
chrismyStormx2: come on :(01:33
lunitikryguy1233, if that doesn't work... call Microsoft... if your copy is licensed... you're shit out of luck01:33
lunitikryguy1233, either way... good day sir01:33
Stormx2chrismy: Where do you live?01:33
cruberyguy1233,  that's not good. You should get one so you could use it to fix mbr01:33
lunitiks/licensed/unlicensed/01:33
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guidedspiritim on a compaq presario laptop and i have kubuntu (latest version) and it wont detect my pcmcia card or port01:33
chrismyStormx2: but i have to download the image file and bring my computer to the computer shop and ask them to burn and have to pay them....and and hahha01:33
bob__is there an easy way to install java in ubuntu? eg a package01:33
NoUse!java01:34
ubotujava is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:34
lunitikcrube, stop helping him... its not an Ubuntu or even a linux issue.01:34
bob__thanks01:34
chrismyStormx2: where do i live? hmm very popular but not very popular at the same time01:34
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Stormx2chrismy: I'm guessing not england.01:34
guidedspiritim on a compaq presario laptop and i have kubuntu (latest version) and it wont detect my pcmcia card or port01:34
Stormx2chrismy: Otherwise i would have mailed it to you.01:34
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crubelunitik,  but it is a result he got from linux, so it's somehow relative anyways :)01:35
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chrismyStormx2: england?? hahah my english is neither proper nor the posh? :P01:35
Stormx2chrismy: Maybe you should just reinstall, yeh?01:35
lunitikcrube, no... he needs to contact Microsoft/his ISV   :/01:35
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chrismyStormx2: i guess that would be the ultimate choice :(01:36
iratsuHello. I can't get X working. Here is my X log: http://iratsu.dyndns.org:8080/~iratsu/Xorg.0.log01:36
lunitikcrube, fortunately... our license allows for no warrentee  8D01:36
chrismyi would try once again ...jeez01:36
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Stormx2chrismy: The only other option is getting a live CD01:37
lunitikiratsu, weird... no error... you get a black screen? or just nothing?01:37
Stormx2it might cost you a little money but it would save you losing any work.01:37
apokryphoslunitik: "WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY". Always hopeful seeing it when X crashes ;-)01:37
iratsulunitik: nothing01:37
chrismyStormx2: but thinking back breezy will be out on october. so i do not wish to waste money on that01:37
lunitikiratsu, X tries to start.... then returns to CLI?01:37
Stormx2chrismy: Hmm ok01:38
gabrielnobady knows how to activate function for long drag n drop with touch pad synaptics?01:38
lunitikapokryphos, pay for support?01:38
iratsulunitik: yes01:38
chrismyStormx2: therefore i will be wiser :D getting LIVE PLUS INSTALLATION CD yay!01:38
Stormx2lunitik: Will I be able to get breezy CDs if I havn't got my code from when I got my hoary ones?01:38
apokryphoslunitik: you could, of course; not that I'd want/need to01:38
Stormx2Im off01:39
lunitikiratsu, resolution settings are correct (ala /etc/X11/xorg.conf)  ?01:39
Stormx2im reinstalling tomorow morning though.01:39
chrismyStormx2: getting free CDs from ubuntu is ridiculous. i have heard many of them here saying it will take eaons to reach01:39
Stormx2fucking gnome.01:39
lunitikapokryphos, then such messages shouldn't bother you  :)01:39
Stormx2chrismy: The more you order the quicker they come01:39
chrismyStormx2: same here nighty night!01:39
chrismyStormx2: more? but i a not into busniess lol01:39
apokryphoslunitik: mild joke; nevermind 8)01:39
lunitikStormx2, just re-sign up for shipit ... should just be able to log back in and re-order though...01:39
chrismythat is odd!01:39
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iratsulunitik: looks right01:39
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apokryphosiratsu: try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:40
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eliphas_took me two month to receive my cd's but was so happy to dirtibute them01:40
chrismyStormx2: i will see you later if possible or just about anyone to help me out01:40
lunitikiratsu, hmm... for now... try 600x480 (remove the others for now from 24bit) just for now... to see if this is why...01:40
chrismytheine: even you could help me kicl MS ass hehe01:40
eliphas_I left some in my stairs01:40
Stormx2alright01:40
chrismykick01:40
Stormx2im off to bed now01:40
Stormx2Have fun01:40
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lunitikStormx2, night01:40
chrismyStormx2: so as to you01:40
chrismythanks01:40
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ArsonideUh how do I access my "C:" drive in Ubuntu?01:41
ArsonideI have some music I want to try to play.01:41
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chrismytheine: are you there?01:41
lunitikArsonide, fdisk -l  ... which one is vfat or ntfs?01:41
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falkoyay, IRC!01:41
Arsonidentfs01:41
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pfp!ntfs01:41
ubotuntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.01:41
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apokryphosubotu: tell Arsonide about windowsdrives01:41
lunitikArsonide, ok... let me rephrase... which one is ntfs01:41
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ArsonideC:01:41
chrismyhmm could anyone tell me , it is possible to install linux from USB pendrive?01:41
lunitikapokryphos, shush01:41
gabrieli meen: when i drag n drop how do you do long drags? just tapping?01:41
lunitikArsonide, RUN THE DAMN COMMAND (fdisk -l)01:42
pfpArsonide: check out that script link from ubotu01:42
chrismy!usb01:42
ubotuchrismy: Do they come in packets of five?01:42
chrismylol01:42
lunitikchrismy, look into hotplug01:42
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apokryphoslunitik: mwuahaha01:42
chrismylunitik: that is hotplug? wow..01:42
whyameyeI want to try "suspend to ram" but I don't even see how to choose the option from Gnome. I only see "hibernate"01:42
chrismy!hotplug01:42
ubotuI don't know, chrismy01:42
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lunitikchrismy, hotplug manages everything usb01:43
Arsonidelunitik, k, ran the damn command, it did nothing.01:43
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chrismylunitik: it says it does not know01:43
apokryphosArsonide: as sudo01:43
lunitikArsonide, impossible01:43
lunitikapokryphos, still would have said SOMETHING01:43
thrusharsonide type sudo fdisk -l hda01:43
NoUsechrismy ubotu, as smart as he is, is that the end all be all of linux knowledge01:43
chrismylunitik: hmm you mean everything but just USB?01:43
NoUses/that/not01:43
apokryphosArsonide: but if you want you can use the script ubotu just told you about... it will automount the partitions for you, if you like.01:43
lunitikchrismy, hotplug manages only USB01:43
Arsonidebah, I changed my password and now it doesn't work.01:43
apokryphosArsonide: use your new password01:44
lunitikArsonide, listen to apokryphos01:44
chrismyNoUse: yes. is ubotu your bot?01:44
apokryphosArsonide: you won't be able to function without it.01:44
ArsonideIt was capitalized and I made it uncapitalized, now neither works. For instance it was APPLE, now it's apple.01:44
rmflaggHas anyone encountered any login problems, like it no longer asking if you want to change the default session setting?01:44
lunitikArsonide, I think doing this manually is beyond you (no offense)01:44
chrismylunitik: thanks! i am smarter now :D01:44
NgArsonide: you can reset it by rebooting into recovery mode and running "passwd yourusername"01:44
apokryphoschrismy: cafuego owns him; belongs to the channel.01:44
lunitikchrismy, heh  :)01:44
chrismyapokryphos: ahhh so it must be tough to take care of it01:45
chrismyapokryphos: heard it need plenty of care01:45
chrismylunitik: :P01:45
apokryphoschrismy: not particularly; everyone can contribute to him (like a wiki), and he's a blootbot01:45
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chrismyapokryphos: :O he is wiki?????????01:45
Arsonidelunitik, It's not my fault you didn't include sudo, give me a break I just got this today.01:45
chrismygee....01:45
apokryphoschrismy: similar to one, yes01:45
chrismycool!01:45
diemanhrm01:46
funkyHatdoes anyone else get really annoyed with sloppy focus, focusing the windows immediately01:46
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diemananyone using breezy and autopano-sift?01:46
chrismyso how could i command it to give me info?01:46
NgfunkyHat: you can set a delay01:46
funkyHatthere could at least be an _option_ to delay focus:(01:46
funkyHatNg, there is no way to set a delay01:46
NoUse!tell chrismy about ubotu01:46
funkyHatyou can set an autoraise delay01:46
chrismyapokryphos: how do i learn about talking to this ubotu?01:46
funkyHatnot a focus delay01:46
crubeWhat's so cool about wiki? I don't even know what wiki is.01:46
lunitikArsonide, like I said, no offense intended... Linux is meant for people like you (users that aren't familier with Linux necissarily) ... its ok... but the script will likely be easier for you  :)01:46
apokryphoschrismy: best to investigate in /msg. So /msg ubotu01:46
bob__crube, plenty is cool about wiki01:46
NgfunkyHat: ah yes, it's a raise delay :(01:46
apokryphoschrismy: then just start typing; type help01:46
ArsonideI still don't know how to use the script. Is this a bat file or what?01:47
chrismyhelp01:47
NoUsecrube well if you don't know about it, it must not be cool01:47
chrismyerm...01:47
NgfunkyHat: I use sloppy focus though, what's wrong with instant focus? ;)01:47
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apokryphoscrube: What's so cool about wiki is that it's collaboration :)01:47
lunitikchrismy, /msg ubotu help01:47
apokryphoscompare Encarta to Wikipedia01:47
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funkyHati'm sure there used to be an option to delay focus01:47
chrismyhelp01:47
chrismyapokryphos: why i cant do it?01:47
bob__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki learn about wikis01:47
crubeapokryphos,  I've seen all kinds of wiki's, but I don't know what makes them so special :P01:47
NoUsechrismy message the boy01:47
apokryphoschrismy: type what lunitik said01:47
lunitikapokryphos, wikipedia > encarta ... not least because m$ owns encarta  ;)01:47
NoUsechrismy bot01:47
funkyHatwell, for a start windows thinking i've looked at them because they've had focus (mostly a problem with gaim)01:47
funkyHatand also it's just insanely annoying!01:47
chrismyermm nothing came out01:48
apokryphoscrube: the wealth of information. Find out how many articles Wikipedia gives you at the typing of a few keys01:48
NgfunkyHat: gaim is deeply annoying with any focus mode ;(01:48
chrismyhello01:48
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apokryphoslunitik: seeing the "Encarta article on X... pay to access it" makes me go straight to Wikipedia 8)01:48
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chrismybot01:48
funkyHat(yeah, i have the patched libwnck which means i have blinking taskbar items, but then moving the mouse over the chat window cancels the notification)01:48
crubeYou just hate to say "wiki" and the whole crowd goes all "Whooo" and "oooh" and then they start clapping their hands and making waves!01:48
dazvidHello everyone01:48
apokryphoschrismy: it should open a query for you with ubotu01:48
chrismydazvid: hi there :D01:48
NgfunkyHat: but fair enough. you could file a bug with a low priority (ie feature enhancement) asking for it?01:48
apokryphoschrismy: I think your nick has to be registered, if you're not already01:49
lunitikapokryphos, haha... can't remember the last time I used Encarta actually.. I know I have it on CD around here someplace though  :)01:49
chrismyapokryphos: yes something like ]  [PRIVMSG >>> ubotu] : ???01:49
ArsonideUbuntu never gets my password right, first it thought it was capitalized, when it wasn't, and now it thinks it's something else but it isn't.01:49
dazvidQuestion for you ubuntu users.. how good is ubuntu with supporting major game releases?01:49
lunitikchrismy, type '/msg ubotu help'01:49
apokryphoschrismy: what? that's the output?01:49
lunitikchrismy, in the channel01:49
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chrismyyes i did lunitik01:49
chrismyhe does not like me?:(01:50
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NgArsonide: it really should get it right, I'd be tempted to blame your equipment or you before md5 and strcmp() ;)01:50
lunitik!help01:50
chrismysee nothing came out01:50
ArsonideI've typed this password for over 5 years and I had to confirm it twice.01:50
apokryphoslunitik: long messages are only /msg01:50
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apokryphoslunitik: I don't think he's registered01:50
lunitikchrismy, eh... it farted a bunch of crap to me01:50
NgfunkyHat: bugzilla.gnome.org01:50
crubedazvid,  I've played hl2 under ubuntu. Ubuntu is not the *supporter* of these games.01:50
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chrismylunitik: huh?01:50
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chrismy!help01:51
dazvidcrube: can you play it online though?01:51
chrismylunitik: ahh yes01:51
chrismyheheh01:51
apokryphos=)01:51
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crubedazvid,  yes with no problems.01:51
dazvidah01:51
chrismybut how cani learn about it?01:51
dazvidwell thats all i need to hear :)01:51
ArsonideNg, how do you boot into recovery mode...01:51
apokryphoschrismy: so as you can see, to add to him you do "x is at http://x.com"01:51
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ArsonideI have to do simple things the hard way.01:51
funkyHatthanks Ng :)01:51
dazvidwell have to  be off, got uni in an hour -_-01:51
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crubedazvid,  ubuntu is not the one supporting games- There's other programs for linux that are made for gaming.01:51
NgArsonide: reboot your computer and just before it boots it prints a message about pressing escape for the boot menu, do that and there should be an Ubuntu Recovery entry listed, choose that01:52
kairuhi all! sometimes i start up my computer, log in, and i get this gnome desktop with everything but the system tray. anyone have this problem?01:52
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apokryphoschrismy: in your /msg with ubotu, type another word01:52
chrismyi try01:52
apokryphoschrismy: i.e. type   ubuntu01:52
chrismyubuntu01:52
chrismyhmmm01:52
reikihahah01:52
apokryphoschrismy: in your channel with ubotu01:52
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chrismyubuntu01:52
apokryphoss/channel/ubuntu01:52
NoUsechrismy you aren't messaging the bot, you are sending that to us01:52
apokryphosgah01:52
chrismyNoUse: yes i know01:52
apokryphoschrismy: where did ubotu respond to you? Well, go in there and type it01:53
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chrismy[07:52:39]  [PRIVMSG >>> ubuntu] :  i got that01:53
chrismyapokryphos: in there? in the channel?01:53
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apokryphoschrismy: in there with him, yes.01:53
crubeOk time to sleep. ->01:53
apokryphoschrismy: if it doesn't work, you need to register your nick I believe.01:53
chrismyapokryphos: this channel or the freenode wherei came in?01:53
chrismycrube: are you going or i am annoying?:(01:54
apokryphoschrismy: not the channel and not the Freenode, but in your chat with ubotu (the bot) :)01:54
eyequeuechrismy:  it's ubotu not ubuntu01:54
apokryphosyou should get this response...01:54
apokryphos!ubuntu01:54
uboturumour has it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards01:54
Chadza!awards01:54
uboturumour has it, awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks01:54
chrismy!ubuntu01:54
apokryphoschrismy: though you can search factoids here: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:54
|Imp|question, how to i login to gdm remotely?01:54
chrismylol01:54
eyequeueubotu:  tell chrimsy about help01:54
chrismyi think i need to register01:55
apokryphosas I said, yes :)01:55
chrismyeyequeue: nothing here01:55
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chrismyapokryphos: so how do i register myself?01:55
eyequeue<ubotu> told chrimsy about CMD 'help'01:55
chrismyeyequeue: erm..i have no popup01:55
eyequeuechrismy:  /msg NickServ help register01:56
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apokryphoschrismy: /msg nickserv {somepassword} {emailaddress}01:56
eyequeuechrismy:  popup?01:56
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|Imp|how do i do remote GDM login?01:56
apokryphoswhoop, forgot the register01:56
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apokryphoschrismy: /msg nickserv register {somepassword} {emailaddress}01:56
chrismyerm what now?01:57
chrismyami registered?01:57
chrismy!help01:57
eyequeuechrismy:  read the email01:57
chrismy!wiki01:57
chrismyi have email? ok wait01:57
|Imp|will somebody please help me?01:57
apokryphos!helpme01:58
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.01:58
lunitikchrismy, you don't need to enter an e-mail address... nickserv doesn't really care...01:58
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NoUse|Imp| you have to enable it while your at the machine01:58
lunitikchrismy, just type '/msg nickserv identify somepassword01:58
chrismylunitik: lol i am dumb you must know :P01:58
|Imp|NoUse, i did01:58
|Imp|what do i use as a client?01:58
NoUse|Imp| I don't know01:58
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apokryphoslunitik: no, you have to verify by email01:58
darkheart|Imp| vnc client01:59
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chrismy!register01:59
ubotuchrismy: Bugger all, i dunno01:59
chrismy;p;01:59
darkheart|Imp| But if you want to connect to the active session, you have to have set it so that you can connect to it and to allow remote users. Otherwise you  have to use a real vnc session.01:59
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|Imp|darkheart, what?02:00
Ng|Imp|: do you mean full remote X as in XDCMP? If so, gdm can browse xdcmp or you can use an X server like Exceed on windows02:00
ArsonideAlright, in Windows now...doing passwd (myname) brought up the UNIX password reset, I made sure capslock was off, looked at every single letter before I pushed it, and confirmed again looking at every letter.02:00
|Imp|yes02:00
|Imp|XDCMP02:00
|Imp|i wanna use that02:00
|Imp|how?02:00
chrismylunitik: so how will i know if i am registered? i have enter /msg nickserv identify <password>02:00
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ArsonideTried to log in and tried the password and it didn't work, turned caps lock on just in case, and it still didn't work.02:00
Ng|Imp|: what OS is the client computer?02:00
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|Imp|ubuntu02:00
ArsonideNow ubuntu won't let me on at all.02:01
apokryphoschrismy: did you check your mail and do what it says there?02:01
chrismyapokryphos: i am tryin. hotmail sucks!02:01
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chrismyyeah you tell me...02:02
Ng|Imp|: in gdmsetup's Security tab there's an option to allow running the XDMCP chooser, tick that on the client machine02:02
chrismyapokryphos: so what emial account you use?02:02
chrismyemail02:02
Ng|Imp|: that should let the gdm the client machine loads be used to connect to the server's xdmcp02:02
apokryphosGMail =)02:02
apokryphosand various others that forward to that02:02
chrismyapokryphos: gee i must need invitation02:02
apokryphoschrismy: no, anyone can join02:03
ArsonideSo uh, anybody want to tell me what my password really is?02:03
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Ng|Imp|: and obviously the gdmsetup on the server needs to be set to run xdmcp and allow remote logins :)02:03
ArsonideCause it's not the password I'm telling it to be.02:03
chrismyapokryphos: huh? i thought it is fussy02:03
apokryphosArsonide: you set it =)02:03
|Imp|ng, it was02:03
apokryphoschrismy: it used to be02:03
QMarioHow do I run a Unix binary.02:03
chrismyapokryphos: oki check it out now02:03
ArsonideNo, Ubuntu set it, it doesn't think it's what I typed in and I'm definately getting it right, I looked at every single key as I pressed it this time.02:03
apokryphoschrismy: https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount02:03
NgQMario: you can only run Linux binaries02:04
ArsonideI'm in windows now cause I can't log in02:04
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chrismyapokryphos: must i use my current email address to log in? my existing email addy is way too long@02:04
chrismy:P02:04
Ng|Imp|: actually you might well need to tell both gdmsetup's to enable tcp too02:04
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apokryphoschrismy: to log in to where?02:04
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chrismyI HEARD WINDOWS! :O02:04
bmecoli-anyone here know how to run dosemu02:04
|Imp|NG02:05
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|Imp|i did02:05
apokryphoschrismy: to register your nick you will have to go into the address you specified, yes.02:05
|Imp|but i can't get the client to connect02:05
NgArsonide: did you manage to reset it?02:05
bmecoli-is says it will but it only takes my back to "root@path"02:05
|Imp|i can't even get the client to give me the option to connect02:05
bmecoli-I don't understand02:05
chrismyapokryphos: the page asking for my current email address and tht will be my username to signin02:05
bmecoli-I can't find the process either02:05
ArsonideNo, I can't log in now, I made sure caps lock was off, and when I put the password in I hunt-and peck typed it looking at the keyboard, did that twice.02:05
QMarioNg, sorry. I meant a Linux binary.02:05
ArsonideThen I tried logging in with caps on and off, and neither worked.02:06
QMarioI created one from compiling C++ source code.02:06
QMarioHow do I run it?02:06
apokryphoschrismy: totally confused. What are you talking about?02:06
bmecoli-there is this Creating symbolic link for bootdirectory as /home/bmecoli/.dosemu/drives/c02:06
bmecoli-and I don't get it02:06
NoUseQMario ./file02:06
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Ng|Imp|: ah, are you using the graphical greeter?02:06
ArsonideIs there some sort of password format that I'm not following?02:06
bmecoli-because nothing else happens02:06
chrismyYour current email address :02:07
chrismye.g. myname@example.com. This will be your username and sign-in.02:07
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bmecoli-it just takes me back to bash02:07
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apokryphoschrismy: oh, whoop, must have given the wrong link there.02:07
chrismyapokryphos: lol02:07
ArsonideNg: me?02:07
ArsonideYeah.02:07
chrismyapokryphos: i am innocent...02:08
chrismy:P02:08
apokryphoschrismy: hm, they must have changed the system. I can give you an invite though. Just /msg  me your email address02:08
chrismyapokryphos:  you mean PM you?02:08
NgArsonide: yeah, didn't I just tell you about rebooting to recovery mode to reset your password?02:08
apokryphosyes02:08
chrismyapokryphos: as i am aware i am not allowed to PM02:08
apokryphoschrismy: you are, but not to Ubuntu02:09
apokryphos*ubotu02:09
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ArsonideNg: I'm telling you now, that's what I did, it said "New UNIX Password" and I did it twice, making sure I got it right.02:09
chrismyapokryphos: which means?02:09
bmecoli-hmm, is anyone going to help me... I'm pretty stumped02:09
chrismyapokryphos: ok i try02:09
apokryphoschrismy: type.... /msg apokryphos youremail@somedomain.com02:09
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NgArsonide: if it accepted it then that is your password. Are you sure you have the right username?02:09
chrismyok02:09
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ArsonideThat password is assigned to the user in "passwd user" right?02:10
Ngyes02:10
ArsonideThen yeah, I'm getting the username right.02:10
Ngwith that exact capitalisation02:10
lunitikchrismy, ahh... sorry... was gone for a sec... /msg nickserv identify password   (before should have been register not identify)02:10
|Imp|Ng, yes, i am using the graphical greeter02:10
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Ng|Imp|: bingo :)02:10
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Ng|Imp|: in gdmsetup switch to the standard greeter. the xdmcp chooser is in the actions menu :)02:11
ArsonideNg: I'll try it again but I'm pretty sure something's messed up. I may have capitalized the first letter of my name, but I doubt it.02:11
Arsonidebrb.02:11
NgArsonide: wait02:11
Arsonide?02:11
QMarioHow do I set myself to +CE?02:11
NgArsonide: when you boot back into ubuntu, if the graphical login doesn't work, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and try a console login too02:11
Arsonideok02:12
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Arsonidebrb02:12
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[t0rc] can you install rpms on ubuntu?02:13
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lunitik[t0rc] , sure... alien some.rpm02:13
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Ng[t0rc] : maybe, if you really really have to, but it's really not a good plan02:13
lunitik[t0rc] , then install the resulting deb as normal02:13
lunitikNg, shush... Ubuntu is LSB complient... that statement makes it sound like its not02:14
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Nglunitik: that assumes all RPMs are LSB compliant ;)02:14
lunitik[t0rc] , if it complains... 'alien --to-deb some.rpm'02:14
apokryphoslunitik: it's unfortunately a simple fact that bigger RPMs it won't work for. It is a debian-based system02:14
lunitikNg, rpm = an lsb standard.02:14
oroCan someone help me get my sound working?02:14
Nglunitik: I mean the contents02:14
cyphaseis breezy going to have better server management?02:15
[t0rc] k thnx both02:15
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|Imp|how do i add a user to the sudoers file?02:15
Ng|Imp|: you add the user to the admin group02:15
ivanodeni have mplayer and sound problem02:15
|Imp|ng, how02:15
Ng"sudo adduser username admin"02:15
ivanodenit cannot use alsa sound system02:15
Ngor with the graphical users and groups thingie02:15
apokryphos|Imp|: sudo visudo02:15
lunitikapokryphos, it'll work... just likely to take a LOT longer...02:15
apokryphos|Imp|: and then add {username} ALL=(ALL) ALL02:16
lunitikapokryphos, hard to believe he can't find a .deb though...02:16
ivanodenanyone had the same prob before?02:16
apokryphoslunitik: the alien system isn't perfect. Check the site.02:16
apokryphoslunitik: yes02:16
Ngapokryphos: there's no need to visudo, that's what the admin group does :)02:16
apokryphoseither way02:16
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codecainewhat's going on with these spammers on irc? ridiculous!02:17
Ars0nideOk awesome, it's taken 8 hours to raise my refresh rate from 60 to 85, and change my password from capitalize to uncapitalized.02:17
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[t0rc] anyone here compiled 64 bit blender on ubuntu?02:17
Ngapokryphos: generally it's best to do things the way the distro's own tools would have done, so there are no surprises later, imho02:17
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bmecoli-;/02:17
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ivanodenor someone can use mplayer02:17
ivanodenyet?02:17
apokryphosNg: that wouldn't produce any surprises, really. But, I don't know how to do it the other way; I don't use gnome.02:17
NgArs0nide: working now? :)02:17
[t0rc] codecaine: yes they are. quite annoying.02:17
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lunitikivanoden, totem-xine + w32codecs > mplayer02:17
Ars0nideYeah...now to try and access my windows drive.02:17
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|Imp|oh shit02:18
|Imp|i fucked up the sudoers file02:18
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ivanodenis totem player good for music player02:18
|Imp|how can i fix this02:18
lunitikivanoden, Rhythmbox is better for music...02:18
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Ngapokryphos: ^^ - another good reason to never mention visudo ;)02:18
Madpilotivanoden: yes - but for playing albums, try Rythymbox or Muibe02:18
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GerriallIs anybody else getting webcam spam messages?02:18
Madpilot*Muine02:18
zuuluu1212ivanoden: there are better...totem is boring :)02:18
MadpilotGerriall: yes02:18
|Imp|helphelphelp02:18
|Imp|;_;02:18
apokryphos|Imp|: how and why; you shouldn't play around with it.02:18
GerriallAny way to dump them?02:18
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Ng|Imp|: |Imp| there are only three lines in the default one:02:18
ivanodenlunitik, ok, but i think the problem is sound system02:18
NgDefaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn02:18
Ngroot    ALL=(ALL) ALL02:18
Ng%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL02:19
|Imp|apokryphos, I DID WHAT YOU TOLD ME TOO!!02:19
ivanodenit cannot use alsa02:19
|Imp|i can't edit it02:19
|Imp|i can't use sudo02:19
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Madpilotanyone know why "/umode <nick> +CE" isn't working for me? I get "UMODE unknown command"...02:19
lunitikivanoden, activate universe... and install gstreamer0.8-mad02:19
Ng|Imp|: write those three lines down, reboot into recovery mode and do it there02:19
apokryphos|Imp|: then you wouldn't have mucked up a single thing. No need to shout.02:19
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ivanodengstreamer-properties??02:19
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chrismyapokryphos: ok done what should i do now?02:19
ivanodenlunitik, i have it02:19
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chrismyapokryphos: re-regiester?02:20
chrismy*register02:20
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Ars0nideNg, where do I save this script?02:20
zuuluu1212im trying to get http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/request-tracker3.4/ installed but apt-get/cache only sees request-tracker3.2 .. i have straight server install...do i need to change sources.list?02:20
apokryphoschrismy: perhaps, but I don't know how to... it's waiting for you to verify from the hotmail address02:20
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NgArs0nide: which script?02:20
Ars0nideWindowsdrives02:20
chrismyapokryphos: means i can't register again?02:20
apokryphosperhaps you can, but I don't know how to.02:21
chrismyapokryphos: hotmail is still not opening!02:21
apokryphos|Imp|: did you save the file properly?02:21
|Imp|apokryphos, yea02:21
apokryphoschrismy: what browser?02:21
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apokryphos|Imp|: and your current user can't sudo? Hm.02:21
NgArs0nide: is that the winmac detection script? anywhere really, your home directory would be a good place02:21
|Imp|nobody can sudo02:21
chrismyapokryphos: you guess.it is IE02:21
|Imp|im rebooting the machien to fix it02:21
apokryphos|Imp|: it won't fix anything02:21
Ars0nideoh yeah, I forgot if it's like a bat I have to navigate to the folder for it to work.02:22
|Imp|apokryphos, yes it will02:22
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|Imp|recovery mode02:22
Ars0nideIs there a folder (ala windows) that I can put things where it will become a default command?02:22
apokryphos|Imp|: do this  su - {otheruser} (the one you gave sudoer permissions02:22
apokryphos|Imp|: there's an easier way02:22
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NgArs0nide: /usr/local/bin02:22
Octanewhich mode am I supposed to set for stopping all the spam?02:22
|Imp|nobody can use sudo02:22
|Imp|i already tried02:22
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lunitikArs0nide, put them in /home/you/bin02:22
apokryphos|Imp|: you said you edited the file appropriately02:22
rob_p|Imp|:  visudo shouldn't have let you save the file if it contained syntax errors.  Did you override it or something when it warned you of any errors?02:22
lunitikArs0nide, or what Ng said... although yeah... I wouldn't do that...02:23
|Imp|it didn't warn me02:23
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ssdd65how do i download the wma codec for xmms?02:23
lunitikArs0nide, same result really... but yeah... I dislike /usr/local  :/02:23
apokryphos|Imp|: then you evidently didn't do what I said, if you can't sudo with the other user02:23
chrismysjmurdoch: are you from blender too?02:23
cafuegodid you run 'visudo' or 'vi /etc/sudoers' ?02:23
lunitikssdd65, you need w32codec from hoary extras02:23
[t0rc] these spammers are getting real annoying02:23
|Imp|i added, below the existing user02:23
ivanodenlunitik, i try the rhythmbox but the problem is not the software?02:23
zuuluu1212this is just the universe repository correct? http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/request-tracker3.4/02:23
rob_p|Imp|:  hmm... odd.  Every time I've had errors in it, visudo wouldn't let me save it without giving me a second chance to fix it.02:24
ssdd65is hoary extras in any repo?02:24
|Imp|loki    ALL=(ALL) Al...oh02:24
Nglunitik: what's wrong with /usr/local? ;)02:24
apokryphos|Imp|: ?02:24
ivanodenlunitik, it notice that "Could not open resource for writing "02:24
|Imp|i let go of shift early typing the last all02:24
apokryphos:/02:24
chrismyapokryphos: can i use gmail to chat like yahoo?02:24
apokryphosthe one chance the root account would be useful02:25
apokryphoschrismy: I think so, yes. YOu can use it for msn etc02:25
lunitikNg, I just don't really see the point... if its for a user, put it in the user dir... if its for everyone, put it in /usr/bin ...02:25
MadpilotAnyone know why I can't set /umode properly to block this damned spam?02:25
apokryphos|Imp|: though it shouldn't have mucked up your current user permissions unless you changed anything...02:25
ivanodenlunitik, i try the rhythmbox but the problem is not the software?02:25
chrismyapokryphos: wow the it loads like no body's business! zoom!02:25
ivanodenlunitik, it notice that "Could not open resource for writing "02:25
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lunitikivanoden, did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?02:25
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Nglunitik: /usr/bin is for packaged binaries/scripts, /usr/local/bin is for sysadmin installed (ie unpackaged) binaries/scripts02:25
Madpilotivanoden: do you have all codecs installed?02:25
Madpilot!restricted02:25
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:25
ivanodeni have install lunitik02:26
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ivanodenand all the codecs02:26
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ivanodenbut where to put the codec in02:26
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lunitikivanoden, it should work then... no idea why it doesn't... sorry... breezy?02:26
ivanodenMadpilot02:26
David715anybody here familiar with openssl on ubuntu?02:26
lunitikivanoden, file a bug?02:26
Emoryhello, I'm trying to install ubuntu, every time I insert the CD..I get the splash screen, I hit enter, and then ubuntu boots again...whats wrong02:26
naliothDavid715: i'm sorta familiar02:26
Madpilotivanoden: just isntall the codecs via Synaptic, they should be found by Totem automatically02:26
naliothEmory: check your cd integrity (and .iso image integrity, if applicable)02:27
lunitikMadpilot, no...02:27
David715nalio, does the synaptic add the ca.pl?02:27
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lunitikMadpilot, they need to be added... the codecs are non-free... Ubuntu will never ship them02:27
David715I cannot seem to find it and I am following some instructions that use that batch02:27
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Emorywhat do you integrity..i just downloaded the iso and burned with nero02:27
lunitikMadpilot, you likely have hoary extras enabled... if so... tell him how to add them to his Ubuntu...02:27
NoUseEmory did you download it with bittorrent?02:28
Emoryyes02:28
Emorybitornado02:28
NoUseEmory thats fine, then the ISO should be fine02:28
NoUseEmory make sure the CD isn't damaged02:28
Ars0nideAlright, no plugins to play MP3s or movies of any kind.02:28
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Ars0nideThe disk did mount though, where do I find these plugins?02:28
EmoryI tried to burn it twice02:28
Madpilotlunitik: gstreamer-etc are all Free - it's just the w32codecs that are in -extras02:28
naliothDavid715: i'm not familiar with scripts associated with openssl.  i recommend updateing your locatedb and searching for it with "locate"02:28
NoUseEmory and then check some of the boot options for the ubuntu CD, there might be a failsafe option or something02:28
Madpilot!tell ivanoden about mp302:29
Madpilotivanoden: that page that ubotu just sent you has all the codec info, including how to add hoary-extras - see the very bottom of that page02:29
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David715nalioth, what is locatedb?02:30
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Ars0nideHey I finally died02:30
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naliothDavid715: you linux box has a database of every file on the system02:31
apokryphosDavid715: the cache that updatedb creates so that you can use locate command02:31
MadpilotArsonide: if you're registered, you can always ghost an old nick02:31
David715ok, how would I go about verifying/updating it?02:31
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naliothDavid715: so i suggest opening a terminal and typing "sudo updatedb"  . this will update your database02:31
apokryphosDavid715: sudo updatedb02:31
ivanodenMadpilot, thanks02:31
Arsonide!tell arsonide about mp302:32
David715ah, thanks, didnt know anything about that02:32
naliothDavid715: then you can (from a terminal) run "locate <filename_you_are_interested_in>02:32
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David715does it simply go and reindex the contents of the hd?02:32
naliothDavid715: updatedb runs every night around 2am (if you leave your puter running)02:32
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David715ah, ok.  What if it still does not find it after the dbupdate?02:32
chrismygot to go: will miss you all.....i shall be back! hahaha02:33
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David715I did the synaptic; when that did not work, I d/led the source and compiled it myself02:33
naliothDavid715: ask Uncle Google02:33
David715lol02:33
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apokryphosDavid715: updatedb. If it doesn't find it then it doesn't exist on your hd02:33
naliothDavid715: what did you ask synaptic for again?02:33
David715did, they gave me placed to d/l it (pull it from the tar) but it just gives me an error02:33
David715openssl02:33
|Imp|next thing im wondering02:33
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naliothDavid715: the server pkg is called "openssh-server"02:34
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David715?02:34
NoUse!openssl02:34
ubotuNoUse: I haven't a clue02:34
|Imp|how hard would it be to set up an ubuntu install that only installed enough to be a client for remote login?02:34
NoUse!info openssl02:34
ubotuopenssl: (Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.7e-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 879 kB, Installed size: 2132 kB02:34
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nalioth!info openssl02:34
NoUseDavid715 the package is there02:34
jasoncoheni just connected a MS wireless mouse and i'm having some strange issues with the scroll wheel. When i scroll up or down it seems as if it tries to scroll in both directions at once. It will scroll up a bit, then scroll down and then up quickly and then continue going up for example02:34
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nalioth!find openssl02:34
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jasoncohenthis doesnt' happen with my logitech optical mouse. any ideas?02:34
reikianyone using an Epson R200 or R300 with Turboprint drivers got a template to print on CD media? :)02:34
naliothDavid715: type in here "!info openssl"02:34
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naliothDavid715: when you do that, ubotu will send you info02:35
David715Im not on the linux box at the moment02:35
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NoUseDavid715 but you can apt-get it (or synaptic)02:35
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David715yes, I did for openssl02:35
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NoUseDavid715 what are you trying to compile?02:36
David715and it installed and worked for the most part02:36
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David715exvept that ca.pl was not there02:36
cafuegoCA.pl02:36
David715so I d/led and compiled myself02:36
cafuegonote the caps02:36
David715yes02:36
David715yes, I ran it with caps02:36
cafuegoMine is in /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl02:36
David715if I run w/o sudo, I get Permission denied02:36
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David715if I use sudo, I get command not found02:37
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Madpilotdamn - I still can't set "/umode +CE" to block spam - what's the trick now?02:37
David715mine is in /bin/ but if I do a locate, it does not find it02:37
cafuegoYou compiled your own openssl and dumpedmit in the filesystem at large?02:37
reikiwhen does one use gksudo instead of sudo?02:37
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NoUseDavid715 openssl provides CA.pl02:37
NoUseDavid715 http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=CA.pl&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i38602:37
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apokryphosreiki: whenever opening a GUI app as root, ideally02:37
jasoncohenreiki, if you want it to ask for your password in a graphical screen- for example for a desktop icon or menu entry02:38
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reikiapokryphos: ok... makes sense. thanks02:38
Madpilotreiki: "man gksudo" at a command prompt02:38
naliothMadpilot: guess they're getting smarter. have you /whois'd one of the nasty pR0nbots?02:38
Madpilotgot to go, everyone, be back later02:38
burneranyone know if the latest Breezy rhythmbox is supposed to be working again?02:38
David715ok, CA.pl is there, but it will not let me run it02:38
Madpilotnalioth: not yet, my ride's here, so I've got to go. Later...02:38
naliothcafuego: c'mon man, we're here to educate02:38
David715did realize locate was caps sens also02:39
gdarelanyoneknow of a god way to convertVOB files to something like Mov or AVI's?02:39
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cafuegoDavid715: You have another problem to contend with now, which is various OTHER openssl libs and binaries spread around your system.02:39
NoUseDavid715 change the permissions then02:39
Concord_DawnHi everyone02:39
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Knorriehi02:39
apokryphosburner: just checked mine and it crashes on startup. I take that as a no ;-)02:39
ArsonideI ran that script at the bottom of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and got an error.02:39
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ikkyshi folks02:39
David715ok, that is fixed with chmod, right?02:39
cafuegoDavid715: Do you remember which ones were copied bu 'make install' and can you remove them my hand?02:39
ikkyscan i copy windows font to ubuntu?02:39
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Concord_Dawnanyone know a good backup utility? I'd like to save everything in Ubuntu, including settings02:39
durtburner: mine didnt crash02:39
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apokryphosikkys: yes, or you can just install the MS font package02:40
reiki!msttcorefonts02:40
ubotureiki: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:40
burnerwell mine crashes too02:40
reikiack02:40
apokryphos!info msttcorefonts02:40
burnerdurt: do anything special?02:40
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB02:40
skalpelcan someone tell me what to do if my mouse behaves eratically?02:40
reikidoh!02:40
reikiI was close02:40
David715I can remove it by hand with a simple reinstall of the OS (Im using the box for testing)02:40
ikkysapokryphos, so hows that? emerge msttf?02:40
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cafuegoDavid715: Good, because you don't want those files hanging around02:40
David715how would I know where it installed? I thought it used default directories02:40
ikkysapt-get msttf?02:41
durtburner: nope, i did upgrade my packages today though02:41
TrippOk, I have a laptop set up with Ubuntu only no Windows, and I have no internet for it yet.  I'm trying to install a program called Penggy, without the use of internet, does anyone have any ideas?02:41
apokryphosikkys: no, this isn't gentoo :)02:41
burnerhrm...02:41
naliothConcord_Dawn: g4u02:41
burnerme too, oh well, thanks guys02:41
apokryphosikkys: sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts02:41
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NoUseDavid715 most of the time you can do 'make uninstall'02:41
naliothDavid715: the *nix way is install once, never "install" again02:41
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naliothDavid715: this is not windows where you reinstall every time a bird flies by the window02:41
gdarelanyone know of a good way to convertVOB files to something like Mov or AVI's?02:41
David715lol02:42
David715thanks nali02:42
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David715yeah, just trying to get used to linux :)02:42
ikkysapokryphos, so, whats the diffbetwenn aptitude and apt-get?02:42
cafuegoDavid715: Next time you run ./configure on anything, use --prefix=/usr/local02:42
ZodiacOh than god02:42
ZodiacIt is back up02:42
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David715ok02:42
naliothgdarel: dvdrip02:42
David715what does that do02:42
Zodiacthat was a rough couple of days :)02:42
apokryphosikkys: a few fine differences; aptitude installs recommended packages by default etc etc02:42
cafuegoDavid715: That will keep anything installed separate from the packaged files.02:42
ZodiacGuys, is Gdesklets worth it?02:42
ikkysso from now on use aptitude rather apt-get?02:43
apokryphosikkys: see google for more02:43
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cafuegoDavid715: it won't by default end up in your path; which can cause unexpected results further down the track.02:43
ZodiacIt looks neat in screenshots but I downloaded it and it seemed a damn nightmare02:43
apokryphosikkys: not necessarily, no.02:43
Concord_Dawncan someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.02:43
naliothDavid715: and the next time you compile something, use "checkinstall" (available via apt) instead of "make install" (checkinstall makes debs for easy removal of your stuff)02:43
cafuegoDavid715: Like "But I installed the openssl 2 package, why is it still using version 1.2 from /bin/ssl' ?02:43
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David715ah02:43
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naliothikkys: aptitude and synaptic are frontends to apt-get02:43
apokryphosikkys: you get an interface with aptitude, too, if you can handle its ugliness ;-)02:44
David715ok, you guys are awesome! :) trying so hard to learn this stuff02:44
Zodiacahhh there is still spam?02:44
ZodiacDamn02:44
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lunitikZodiac, /mode Zodiac +E will get rid of it  :)02:45
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lunitikSomeone should add that to the topic...02:45
Zodiacyea I checked the top and read it02:45
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ikkysoh02:45
ikkysok02:45
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skpltorbnaod?02:45
ZodiacWhat exactly happened?02:45
naliothDavid715: you have gained software freedom. and a whole nother mindset on how to do things02:45
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David715yup, trying...so hate windows02:45
ZodiacIs there a news brief on it?02:45
David715and enlightenment is starting to look really awesome02:46
ZodiacI didnt think so02:46
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naliothlunitik: recommend +CE, if you please (stops unregged users from sending you PMs or CTCPs)02:46
ZodiacI thought it looks sloppy... but the screenshots werent that good02:46
reikiis smeg in backports?02:46
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nalioth!smeg02:46
ubotufrom memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.02:46
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ikkysapokryphos: justwondering, i have 2 pc, side by side, 1 running windows, 1 on ubuntu, im opening 2 sites from these pcs using firefox, the problem is, fonts on the site on the windows pc looks just fine, slim and looks ok i guess, but font on the site running ubuntu looks think and big. how do i fix that if its possible?02:47
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Zodiacyou have to download the MS core fonts02:47
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naliothikkys: steal the windows fonts, put them in your homedirectory in a folder called .fonts02:47
Zodiacthen just change it in your settings02:47
apokryphosikkys: you could adjust the font size from firefox there; though note however that the ubuntu-firefox is ocmpiled differently to the windows one02:47
apokryphosikkys: plus you may need the MS fonts package02:47
Zodiac There should be a package02:47
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David715thanks for all your help guys...gonna try to go fix my mistakes now :)02:48
lunitiknalioth, any reason he shouldn't just sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts ?02:48
apokryphoslunitik: no :P02:48
chris__hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes?02:48
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naliothlunitik: no reason at all, but i used to have scads of fonts on my windows box (way back when i used windows)02:49
ikkysbut i have installed the ms font package. they still look the same. input box'es on ubuntu looks bigger, pictures or jpegs looks like its faded...i just dont get it, everything is like blurred, they arent sharp...02:49
oroI'm having problems with my sound.. can anyone help please?02:49
reikismeg on backports is "broken package".02:49
reiki:)02:49
lunitiknalioth, putting those into /usr/share/fonts is much more useful  ;)02:49
NoUse!tell oro about sound02:49
apokryphosikkys: you'll need to restart FF of course, if you hvaen't done so.02:49
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jasoncohenwhat's with all these porn bots tonight?02:50
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cafuegolunitik: Depends, popping 'em in ~/.fonts is quicker (or symlinking ~/.fonts)02:50
ikkysim wondering how it be like if i use css or edit my website, would it look different on windows02:50
oroi'll check that out.. thanks02:50
chris__hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes?02:50
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lunitikcafuego, true... it would work... just only for that user... maybe I'm overlooking that this is an Ubuntu system  ;)02:50
apokryphosikkys: fc-cache you need to run when you place them in /usr/share/fonts etc.. but not sure if that's the case with installing the package. Can't hurt to run it.02:50
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naliothlunitik: there are several places fonts can be placed. i recommend the simplest02:51
apokryphosnalioth: that's useless if they want them system-wide02:51
apokryphosno point having them all over the place if that's the case.02:51
chris__anyone?02:51
lunitiknalioth, you're not wrong... just like my privious statements about /usr/local... I simply have a different view...02:51
cafuegoapokryphos: Most ubuntu boxen are single-user systems, though.02:52
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naliothapokryphos: how many of these users in here now are running multiuser systems?02:52
apokryphosMost; but not all02:52
ianit seems that Tomboy has been broken in Hoary for months now.  anyone have it working?02:52
apokryphosputting them in /usr solves the problem for *all*02:52
naliothapokryphos: most users in #ubuntu are running multiuser boxes?02:52
lunitikcafuego, am I right in thinking that you lack a third leg?  :P02:52
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apokryphosnalioth: no, the opposite, as I said.02:52
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apokryphoswhoop, it came out wrong, I see. :)02:53
rob_pjasoncohen:  Yeah, I was getting a lot of those pornbot msgs too.  I set my umode to +E and I haven't gotten any since... (fingers crossed)02:53
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apokryphosmost are running single-user, sure. But not all.02:53
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naliothapokryphos: i'm sure the ones running multiuser, know where to put the fonts (and other things)02:53
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apokryphosnalioth: not a safe assumption.02:53
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apokryphosnalioth: when I first started out we had many users, as there's many people in our family. I had no clue where to put them for system-wide; I barely knew the bifurcation.02:53
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naliothapokryphos: i find it hard to believe that anyone who can set up a multiuser linux system wouldn't know how to maintain it (i dont think most of these users know you can log in with different users on the same hardware simultaneously)02:54
lunitikcafuego, haha... no really... I know either you or caphuso was female... I always get you both confused though  :(02:54
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apokryphosnalioth: you err in presupposing that "maintaining it" necessarily incldues "knowing where fonts go for system-wide things"02:55
jasoncohenrob_p, what is umode +E?02:55
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lunitikjasoncohen, no messages from non-registered users02:55
jasoncohenah02:55
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hector_acostahow do i close a window in irssi?02:55
ikkysok, i think the font problem isfixed. now i can seeverdana fonts on my website. ok thats cool...now, how do i make everything not anti-alias on linux? i can say just about everything on linux is anti-aliased. the pictures, fonts, everything, they look kinda blur. compare the white #FFFFFF color with your windows #FFFFFF, all i can say, the white is a bit off white as its blurred. has anyone...02:55
ikkys...came across this??? or i am the only person who got different settings?02:55
apokryphosnalioth: though of course I disagree with the latter point. You have ot login to get into gnome/kde etc. Seems fairly obvious that other usernames are possible there.02:55
robotgeekhector_acosta: /wc02:55
rob_pjasoncohen:  From the freenode page... " This umode prevents private messages from people who have not identified themselves to NickServ. They'll be told that their messages are bouncing."02:56
chris__hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes? xcursor ,xmouse something like that.02:56
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kcidxAnyone using breezy02:56
kcidx?02:56
hector_acostarobotgeek: thanks02:56
robotgeekkcidx: yeah02:56
jasoncohenchris__, gcursor?02:56
lunitikjasoncohen, +C = no ctcp's from unregistered users....02:56
chris__YES thats it thank you02:56
kcidxrobot did you just upgrade and have it break 3d rendering02:56
kcidx?02:56
jasoncohenchris__, that's what i used to change my cursor theme02:56
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chris__thanks jason02:57
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robotgeekkcidx: did u mean me? if so, please tab-complete my nick. otherwise, it doesn't highlight02:57
jasoncohenchris__, np02:57
Daywalkeris there really no way to get basic opengl support for old ati cards (ati rage)02:57
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naliothrob_p: jasoncohen: use +CE (stops PMs and CTCPs from unregged users)02:57
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kcidxnow when i run glxinfo i get this name of display: :0.002:57
kcidxXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".02:57
kcidxrobotgeek, its broken02:57
robotgeekkcidx: if u did mean me, no..worked fine02:57
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kcidxrobotgeek, any idea what that error is? i'm using fglrx02:58
Zodiacdamn I spilled beef steed on my keyboard, I dont think it will ever be the same :(02:58
rob_pnalioth:  Cool!  Tnx!  I'll add it to my auto login commands...02:58
robotgeekanyone help me with spam bots, i got queried here!02:58
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apokryphosrobotgeek: /topic02:58
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robotgeekthanks02:59
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apokryphos!spambots02:59
ubotuspambots is, like, totally, at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#spambots02:59
apokryphos...also02:59
robotgeekthanks :)02:59
carthikHI guys, i installed ubuntu on this 800Mhz pentium box, which has usb ports, but when I plugin a external usb harddrive, nothing automounts... it does work on my ubuntu laptop .. how can i try and figure out what's wrong?02:59
apokryphoscafuego: how can you make responses to actions in the channel02:59
apokryphoscafuego: i.e. "Root has landed!"02:59
cafuegoapokryphos: That's a perl module.02:59
robotgeekcarthik: it shud automount at /media/<label>03:00
carthikrobotgeek, butit does not...03:00
robotgeekcarthik: dmesg?03:00
iananyone use Tomboy?03:00
cafuegoapokryphos: what did you have in mind?03:00
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apokryphoscafuego: not an option as a response to factoid? Geh. Yes, I remember -- perl=evil.03:00
lunitikcafuego, sup at not answering me.... haha03:00
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robotgeekian: yeah03:00
cafuegolunitik: Did you miss me swinging the third leg and hitting you in the eye?03:01
apokryphoscafuego: i.e. "root has joined the channel"... ubotu: "Woo! Root has landed!" ... same as apt.03:01
lunitikcafuego, ahh... guess so.... *goes to find a magnifying glass*  8)03:01
cafuegoapokryphos: Yeah, that's an optional module, rootWarn.pl03:01
ianrobotgeek: so it's fixed in breezy?03:01
kcidxrobotgeek, are you using ATI drivers?03:01
robotgeekkcidx: i am on a powerbook, old one03:01
carthikdmesg says nothing about usb devices...all it says is "agpgart: found an AGP V2.0 compliant device...." but i dont know if that has anything to do with the usb hddd03:02
ttyS0is that possible to change brown background on startup? :)03:02
carthikrobotgeek, sorry ^^03:02
cafuegoapokryphos: Which is set to passive atm, not active.03:02
D1whats with all the spam?03:02
apokryphosright03:02
apokryphosD1: evil spambots.03:02
NoUseD1: /topic03:02
D1;[03:02
ianrobotgeek: does tomboy work without problem on breezy?03:02
kcidxrobotgeek,  this is the error from Xorg.log  (EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 5.0.0, expected 4.1.x). Disabling DRI.03:02
carthikttyS0 yes, choose and set a different background, and that will be maintained when you logout and then in03:02
apokryphosian: what is it?03:03
kcidxrobotgeek, any clues?03:03
NoUsekcidx there is a bug in bugzilla03:03
naliothD1: see the topic03:03
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Webby`Help me please03:03
carthikwe need more robotgeeks around here :)03:03
cafuegoapokryphos: Ought I rewrite it to say "Ubuntu users can't log in as root, you'r enot using ubuntu, go away!" when a root@user joins?03:03
carthikWebby`, can i help you?03:03
ttyS0carthik, I've blue background but on startup it becames brown & then blue :)03:03
Webby`I can't get gtkpod to work03:03
robotgeekbrb!03:03
ianapokryphos: http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/03:03
NoUseWebby` thats not a question03:03
Webby`How do I get gtkpod to work?03:03
robotgeekokay...03:03
NoUsepoint gtkpod to where your ipod is mounted03:04
lunitikWebby`, no idea... it apparently does though  :/03:04
lunitikWebby`, ask the devs?03:04
apokryphoscafuego: you could, sure ;-)03:04
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kcidxNoUse, so does that mean its being fixed....or is there a work around?03:04
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carthikttyS0, oh, so the splash screen...when the things get started and up and running? try changing the startup theme, or something to that effect...03:04
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ianapokryphos: one of the best linux apps, I think03:04
Webby`Anyone know how to get gtkpod to work in ubuntu?03:04
NoUsekcidx no I'm asking is there a bug filed?03:04
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NoUseWebby` I just told you03:04
ttyS0carthik, oh. thanks. i'll try03:04
kcidxNoUse, i haven't filed one.03:04
gdarelAnyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)03:04
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carthikWebby`, it used to work fine for me...03:04
NoUsekcidx have you searched?03:04
robotgeekcarthik: try to do lsmod and see if you see the usb modules, else load it03:04
carthikWebby`, what about it is not working?03:04
kcidxNoUse, yes. but came up short handed03:05
NoUseWebby` in gtkpod preferences, point it to the mount point of your ipod03:05
apokryphosian: hm, link doesn't load; I'll just install. Note program, eh.03:05
NoUsekcidx then you might want to file a bug03:05
carthikrobotgeek, i get usbcore, u/o/ehci_hcd ??03:05
cafuego!root03:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:05
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ianapokryphos: what ubuntu version are you using?  tomboy seems broken for me in Hoary03:05
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carthikian, worked for me, but like all things mono (apparently) mileage varies...03:06
robotgeekian: i am using breezy, so it's fixed there,i guess!03:06
apokryphosian: broken as in doesn't start up? Seems to load fine in breezy at least03:06
apokryphosian: though /me always uses KNotes :P03:06
cafuego!root again03:06
ubotucafuego: I give up, what is it?03:06
iancarthik: try adding a note?  that's when it dies for me03:07
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robotgeekcarthik: i get the same thing too..weird!03:07
carthikian, on hoary - it worked just fine...err.. except when i had tomboy running...03:07
gdarelAnyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)03:07
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Webby`NoUse: I point it to where my ipod is aand I get this error --> Could not open "iTunesDB.ext" for reading extended info.03:07
Webby`Extended info will not be used.03:07
Webby`iPod Database Import Failed: 'Illegal seek to offset 1035926 (length 4) in file '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'.'03:07
carthikrobotgeek, same thing? usb hdd not mounting?03:07
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carthikrobotgeek, yeah, i understand you, this is weird....03:07
robotgeekcarthik: i have the same modules loaded, but usb hdd works03:08
iancarthik: what?  tomboy worked fine except when you had tomboy running?03:08
robotgeeklol03:08
root_cafuego: though, it happens when sudo {irclient} too03:08
cafuego!rootwarn03:08
ubotuthere have been 10 rooters warned about root.03:08
carthikrobotgeek, would you know if, since, my desktop is old and prolly doesn't have usb 2.0 - would tht be the problem?03:08
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cafuegoroot_: I should certainly hope so.03:08
carthikian...oops, except when i had beagles indexer running at startup :) d'oh03:08
iancarthik: do you still use hoary and tomboy?03:09
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robotgeekcarthik: my laptop doesn't have usb 2.003:09
root_cafuego: so they would be using Ubuntu03:09
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vader1102'nor does mine03:09
cafuegogo away ubotu03:09
lunitikcafuego, damnit  :(03:09
carthikian-no - my laptop hdd crashed (totally unrelated incident) and i am in th process of installing stuff - only i am not too sure i want mono apps just yet03:09
apokryphosbingbang the witch is dead!03:09
Webby`Why do I get that error in gtkpod?03:09
robotgeek*waaaaaaaaah* my cousin died!03:10
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ianrobotgeek: what?  just now?03:11
NoUseWebby` put that error into google and see what you find03:11
Webby`ok03:11
NoUseWebby` I've never seen that before03:11
cafuegolunitik: what now?03:11
apokryphosian: he's referring to the bot in the channel :)03:11
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gdarelAnyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)03:11
apokryphosrobotgeek: ubuntulog is still alive, nevermind.03:11
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vader1102!botsnack03:12
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robotgeekian: ubotu is a far cousin!03:12
lunitikcafuego, getting rid of ubotu  ... he's useful  :(03:12
cafuego!test03:12
ubotuPassed.03:12
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robotgeek!lart cafuego03:12
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vader1102!botsnack03:12
ubotu:)03:12
cafuegolunitik: you're hallucinating03:12
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lunitikcafuego, hmm... just not paying attention... ubotu left for a second though... I saw it  ;)03:13
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root_ubotu: I think we'll get on fine.03:13
uboturoot_: Are you on ritalin?03:13
|Imp|ubotu: whats up dude?03:13
ubotu|Imp|: Wish i knew03:13
|Imp|:D03:13
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HrdwrBoB!play03:14
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ubotuAll work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg03:14
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|Imp|ubotu: you don't get out much do you?03:14
ubotuI haven't a clue, |Imp|03:14
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funkyHatubotu, |Imp| is someone who smokes a lot of crack03:14
ubotuokay, funkyHat03:14
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NoUsehaha03:14
|Imp|thats not fair03:14
|Imp|!|imp|03:14
HrdwrBoBwhat's with all the bots03:14
ubotuit has been said that |imp| is someone who smokes a lot of crack03:14
carthikrobotgeek, so any way of figuring out what the heck is wrong with my usb drivers/harddrive/port ?03:14
|Imp|aww crap03:14
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funkyHat:D03:14
robotgeekcarthik: okay, tried and tested method...did a reboot work :)03:15
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|Imp|ubotu, funkyHat is mean to |Imp|03:15
ubotuokay, |Imp|03:15
|Imp|:)03:15
funkyHat:D03:15
HrdwrBoBguys03:15
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cafuego!|Imp| =~ s/crack/crap/03:15
HrdwrBoB!play03:15
ubotuAll work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg03:15
ubotuOK, cafuego03:15
carthikrobotgeek, hah! going down NOW!03:15
cafuego#debian-bots is a playground as well (and there's MORE bots there)03:15
carthikrobotgeek, thanks for trying....03:16
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carthikwill be back03:16
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lunitikcafuego, you keep a log about what people do with the bot?03:16
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ianlunitik: sicko...03:16
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cafuegolunitik: the bot logs EVERYTHING03:16
apokryphoslunitik: view his searchable brain at /msg ubotu list03:16
Paradoxxbah, how do i block spammers?03:16
apokryphosubuntulog logs channel too ;-)03:17
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apokryphosParadoxx: /topic03:17
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ali4728newbie seeks help - name based virtual server for multiple sites on the same IP!03:17
greivancedoes anyone know how to change your mode in Chatzillia?  (So much spam!)03:17
apokryphosgreivance: /topic03:17
lunitikcafuego, fun  :)03:17
greivancethank you03:17
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cafuegolunitik: Waste of disk space, if you ask me.03:18
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gdarelAnyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)03:18
HrdwrBoBcafuego: disk space is $SFA03:18
HrdwrBoBgdarel: run 'dvdrip'03:18
Concord_Dawnali4728, you and I are in the same boat. I'd like to do that as well.03:18
vader1102!botsnack03:18
ubotuthanks vader1102 :)03:18
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lunitikcafuego, indeed... *cough*  :P03:18
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cafuegoHrdwrBoB: That depends on whether you host for $SFA at an ISP you work at, or pay a fee for a box in a datacenter.03:19
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lunitikcafuego, oh... you happen to have the bots code up anywhere? blootbot = horribly broken... nice to see how you fixed things...03:19
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: Sure I can add another 250GB disk at home, but that's not on a useful link and irc logs are STILL a waste of disk space ;-)03:19
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apokryphoscafuego: ubuntulog already does that, so there's no need to save it...03:20
cafuegolunitik: It's the CVS one with s/debian/ubuntu/ and different mirror sites03:20
cafuegoapokryphos: Yep03:20
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lunitikcafuego, ahh.... k... thanks  :)03:21
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cafuegoapokryphos: I logrotate 'em; just in case someone does fuck up the bot03:21
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cafuegogot about a months worth03:21
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apokryphosright03:21
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ali4728newbie seeks help - name based virtual server for multiple sites on the same IP!03:22
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cafuegoali4728: The apache docs are not at all difficult03:23
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Agrajagyou'd be better off asking in #apache probably03:23
Carpe_LibertatemI have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.03:23
cafuegoali4728: See /etc/apache2/sites-available/default? Copy that file to a new name, change the DocumentRoot and ServerName, voila, first new vhost.03:23
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vader1102bbl have a great night03:23
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ali4728cafuego, wish it was that easy!03:24
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cafuegoali4728: I've always found it to be03:25
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cafuegoali4728: Of course, adding the right ip/host combo to /etc/apache2/ports.conf helps.03:25
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Carpe_LibertatemI have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.03:26
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cafuegoSheesh,. maybe an op can re-enable +f or something03:28
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robotgeekcafuego: what's +f ?03:28
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lunitikrobotgeek, /help mode03:29
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cafuegorobotgeek: overflow channel for non-registered users03:29
blaedanyone know where the gdm.conf on the hoary livecd is generated/copied/customised from? trying to customise the live cd, but when i edit etc/gdm.conf on the compressed filesystem, some of the values are overriden? i want to use automaticlogin instead of timedlogin for gdm...03:29
cafuegorobotgeek:... to block these bots03:29
robotgeeku mean to boot to ubuntu-unregged?03:30
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puzzlehello03:30
cafuegoyah03:30
lunitikcafuego, thats what #fedora does i think... but its hardly far to users that are new to IRC...03:30
apokryphoslunitik: temporarily, most probably.03:30
Concord_Dawncan someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.03:30
cafuegolunitik: I don't see why people not new to irc should suffer because others cnanot read.03:30
puzzlei knew there was a site where you could go and it has programs for new users of ubuntu03:30
puzzleanyone have site03:30
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cafuegothe topic on #unregged is clear enough03:30
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puzzlecan someone help me03:30
puzzleplease03:30
carthiksay, how long would e2fsck take to complete a check on a 200 GB hdd?03:31
puzzlehello03:31
cafuegocarthik: Depends on how broken it is.03:31
puzzlesomone please tell me03:31
carthikpuzzle, if you let others help, they will.... just ask the question03:31
cafuegocarthik: .. and how fast it runs.03:31
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dionysuspuzzle, you're not being very specific, but ubuntuguide.org is a nice first stop03:31
carthikcafuego -- in hours or minutes?03:31
cafuegocarthik: Probably 10 to 20 minutes if there are no major errors.03:31
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apokryphoscarthik: minutes; also depends on your setup of course03:32
carthikcafuego - alright, though in the worst case it could be 1+ hour, eh?03:32
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apokryphosvery unlikely03:32
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Concord_Dawncan someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.03:32
{GuNNeR}has anyone here heard of broadcom wireless card only working with 64 bit drivers?03:32
cafuegocarthik: If it's full of tiny files you've got a problem, yes03:32
codecaineanyone know what this " 2>&1" is for in bash programming?03:32
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carthikit is still on Pass 1: checking inodes,... after about 15 minutes03:32
cafuego{GuNNeR}: No, I've only heard of them not working.03:32
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Agrajagredirect stderr to stdout03:32
carthikcodecaine, &1 &2 are all all standard streams...03:32
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fanopnaiccarthik: half an hour seems to be reasonable.03:33
Agrajag2> redirects stderr, &1 is stdout03:33
NoUsecodecaine that redirects stderr to stdout03:33
{GuNNeR}cafuego: it's weird, the only drivers I can find are 64 bit which work (of course) only in 64 bit linx of any distro...however when I try to use a 32 bit driver (all of this under ndiswrapper mind you) nothing will work at all03:33
fanopnaiccarthik: didn't you start it with -C0 ?03:33
cafuegocarthik: yes, passes 2 through 5 runs much, MUCH faster.03:33
Concord_Dawncan someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything03:33
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codecainethank you03:33
cafuego{GuNNeR}: You on a 32bit Linux kernel?03:33
carthikfanopiac, no... just e2fsck -v (hoping it would speak more.. but it's real shy :) )03:33
lexmarkis it possible to install .rpm package?03:33
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lexmarkon unbuntu?03:34
NoUse!alien03:34
ubotualien is, like, totally, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/03:34
cafuegolunitik: Yes, but it's NOT a good idea.03:34
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fanopnaiccarthik: anyway, -C0 gives you a progress bar and stuff03:34
{GuNNeR}cafuego: currently on nothing right now since I've formatted my hd - debating if I wanna go back to ubuntu or try FC403:34
robotgeekcarthik: mounted?03:34
carthikConcord_Dawn, on another hard drive, another machine? search for "rsync automated ssh backups"03:34
lexmarkthanx nouse03:34
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codecaineNoUse, do you know of a quick tutorial on these types of things, i dont want a whole book like the one on tldp.org03:34
codecainei just want to know about those types of things and like what -e and -a and -r and -x are all about03:34
{GuNNeR}cafeuego: however the only time I had success with my broadcom card was in 64 bit ubuntu with the 64 bit drivers03:34
carthikrobotgeek, no, i let the dude do his e2fsck in peace, after not letting it the last time i was impatient (different hdd though...)03:35
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robotgeekcarthik: okay03:35
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carthikfanopnaic, oh, i see.. that is what i wanted... next time, perhaps...03:35
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NoUsecodecaine http://linuxcommand.org/03:35
carthikfanopnaic, thanks :)03:35
fanopnaicnp :)03:35
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Concord_Dawncarthik, on this hdd to another03:35
codecaineNoUse, thank you!03:35
TylerEDoes anyone know a good TTF unicode font? Preferably monospaced03:35
cafuego{GuNNeR}: Yes, the 32bit drivers are never going to work on a 64bit kernel (and vice versa)03:35
carthikConcord_Dawn, ?? this is at start up, on a hdd that is mounted at /stuff ?03:36
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cafuegoTylerE: bitsream vera sans mono ?03:36
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ronald_Did you guys just get the spam messages from VgnaGirl and denizliAolg?03:36
Concord_Dawncarthik, I want to backup to an external HDD03:36
NoUseronald_ read the topic03:36
carthikConcord_Dawn, oh, sorry -- so you want to backup onto the same hdd? rsync is probably the best option - i beleive...03:36
TylerEcafuego: the characters I need are somewhat unusual and NOT in BS Vera03:36
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{GuNNeR}cafuego: I know, however the 32 bit drivers don't work in 32 bit but the 64 do in 64 bit03:36
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carthikConcord_Dawn, okay, great, search for what i suggested earlier.... minus the ssh03:36
Concord_Dawnrsync?03:37
robotgeeki find it hard to go understand the motive behind this attack!03:37
Carpe_LibertatemChrist. Why am I getting so much spam?03:37
lexmarkhow about these.. .i586.tar.bz2 packages? is it possible to install in Ubuntu?03:37
carthikConcord_Dawn, using rsync you can create rotating snapshot style backups that do no, afte rhte first, take up the entire space of whatever is being backed up03:37
codecaineCarpe_Libertatem, so am I!03:37
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem read the topic03:37
ChadzaAnyone wanna reccomend a mp3 player w/ a library aside from rhythmbox?03:37
robotgeekCarpe_Libertatem: /umode +CE03:37
apokryphosubotu: tell lexmark about spambots03:37
ronald_NoUse: Thank you. I have it set now03:37
Carpe_LibertatemDanke.03:37
funkyHatCarpe_Libertatem, read the channel topic, doing that should stop it03:37
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codecaineubotu: tell codecaine about spambots03:37
carthikConcord_Dawn, searching on google or del.icio.us would show you lots of articles...03:37
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Carpe_LibertatemCan someone help me with my other problem please?03:38
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carthikubotu: tell me about spambots03:38
gdarelAmarok03:38
NoUse!anyone03:38
ubotumethinks anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>03:38
Carpe_LibertatemI have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.03:38
Concord_Dawncarthik, I want to backup to a USB harddrive.03:38
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carthikConcord_Dawn, yes, dude... that is what i am talking about03:38
lexmarkhow about these.. .i586.tar.bz2 packages? is it possible to install in Ubuntu?03:38
carthikConcord_Dawn, do you want me to do the searching now? :)03:38
gdarelchadza: Amarok03:39
codecainewhat is +CE ?03:39
Concord_Dawnok03:39
Concord_Dawnjust checking03:39
Concord_Dawnsorry03:39
Concord_Dawn:-P03:39
carthiklexmark, try looking for a .deb of the same thing :)03:39
Chadzagdarel, checking03:39
HrdwrBoBConcord_Dawn: only accept messages from logged in users03:39
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem does fdisk see it correctly?03:39
carthikConcord_Dawn, not a problem at all.03:39
bimberi!umode03:39
ubotuThe freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml03:39
puzzlehello03:39
ronald_Hello puzzle03:39
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puzzlecan someone help me put java on ubuntu03:39
Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: How do I check that?03:40
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NoUse!tell puzzle about java03:40
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carthikpuzzle, look up the ubuntuguide.org guide...03:40
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb03:40
ronald_puzzle: Not to be rude but have you read the install guide for installing java?03:40
carthikubotu tell puzzle about java03:40
puzzlei went there and had a problem03:40
NoUse!ubuntuguide03:40
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.03:40
funkyHatsorry, didn't notice NoUse had just done it puzzle03:40
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Carpe_LibertatemNoUse - yep03:40
carthikpuzzle, what problem was that?03:40
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kad2hi all03:42
puzzlenvm i think i got it03:42
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puzzlei fixed it03:42
puzzlewhats the best music player for ubuntu03:42
robotgeekgr8!03:42
kad2does anyone know about wireless lan install using the ndiswrapper?03:42
Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: - it shows the NTFS as existing.03:42
robotgeek!ndiswrapper03:42
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper03:42
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carthikpuzzle, use xmms, or music player... or beep... try them all and see what you like best03:43
robotgeekkad2: read that link03:43
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kad2i am following the howto, but not sure how to get the windows drivers for the card03:43
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem and windows can't read any of those partitions?03:43
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robotgeekkad2: get it from your drivers cd?03:43
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bwlangwhat's with this webcamera spam... anybody know how to stop it?03:43
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kad2i downloaded the linksys drivers... it has 2 .inf files, i have tried both, but it says both are invalid driver files....03:43
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Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: right, the partition was unaltered and previously showed as drive D:, Drive D: is now one huge RAW disk that Windows wants me to format.03:44
robotgeekbwlang: /topic03:44
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dionysustrying to install freeciv from source, I get complaints about it not being able to find gtk-config (locate can't find it either, so it really isn't on my system)...I've hit problems like this before and never really been able to find a way around them, don't spose anyone has any suggestions?03:44
robotgeekkad2: links on the ndiswrapper wiki?03:44
ronald_bwlang...type in /umode +CE03:44
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robotgeekdionysus: mostly you would need to install the dev package, i guess03:44
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kad2no, i dont see any that will give the drivers.. i know its a broadcom chip via using the show pci command03:44
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem did you resize the partition or anything?03:45
dionysusah ok03:45
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kad2the file on ndiswrapper just shows the card as a broadcom also03:45
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Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: I said the partition was unaltered. =P03:45
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c0rrupt_what is the command to reset alsa to release it from the process its currently being used from03:45
c0rrupt_ban neon03:45
] BreliC[hey, ASLI is one of the person i received spam from03:45
c0rrupt_spam bot03:45
c0rrupt_is neon03:45
cafuego] BreliC[: register your nickname, then /umode +CE to stop the spam.03:46
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] BreliC[thanks cafuego .. but shouldn't he/it be kicked from the channel?03:46
c0rrupt_yea03:46
robotgeek] BreliC[: too many to kick03:46
c0rrupt_ban neon or w/e03:46
Chadzagdarel, Any non kde based?03:46
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NoUseCarpe_Libertatem well chalk it up to Windows sucking I guess03:47
c0rrupt_what is the command to reset alsa to release it from the process its currently being used from03:47
codecainei can still ctcp version myself, does +C just mean no one else can?03:47
] BreliC[i'll never understand spam... why on earth would I *ever* try/buy/visit/whatever something that comes from someone who annoys the hell out of me??03:47
robotgeekc0rrupt_: you can try to "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart"03:47
kcidxok when i run xdriinfo i get this output Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:47
kcidxlibGL is too old.03:47
kcidx any help with that? i'm using breezy and just ran the update and it banged my 3d all up03:47
Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: How can I format and make partitions in Ubuntu? I want to split the NTFS partition into two FAT32 partitions03:48
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naliothcodecaine: the +C keeps unregisted users from CTCPing YOU (not protect you from yourself)03:48
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dcunyHowdy! I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu onto an old Vaio laptop. I I think the issue has to do do with the libc library being compiled for a i686.03:48
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem qtparted is probably your best bet03:48
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robotgeekCarpe_Libertatem: or gparted03:48
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=== NoUse didn't realize there was a gparted
codecainenalioth, You'll still receive CTCP messages sent to a channel you are on, although the network will block your response to them. "that's why i say that"03:49
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pepehey03:49
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ChadzaHow do I view video files when I can't get wmp on firefox?03:50
pepeI need help installing a .deb package03:50
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nate_Does anyone know how to encode multiple files at a time with LAME? I've been encoding one at a time, at it takes too long XD03:50
pepeI did sudo dpkg -i03:50
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pepebut the program won't work03:50
overflowGuys .. this Ubuntu Is getting better and better since the last time I used.03:50
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codecainenalioth, how do u ctcp a channel?03:50
unvs_yeah, hoary is really nice03:50
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ronald_I'm really liking it overflow.03:50
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=== pepe is a gentoo user, installed ubuntu on grandpa's box....
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ronald_I like FC4 and Ubuntu but I find myself spending more time in Ubuntu.03:51
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overflowOne question, Why amsn still in Universe and It is not part of official Hoary repository?03:51
moparfan90hello. can someone help me install limewure03:51
unvs_gentoo gets to involved for me :)03:51
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=== pepe adores his gentoo
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pepeanyways03:51
ronald_...takes 3 days to install Gentoo =/03:52
naliothcodecaine: idk, but i do know you can automate a ctcp to all users on the channel03:52
pepeI downloaded a skype .deb package03:52
Chadza!win32codecs03:52
ubotuChadza: Syntax error in line 103:52
carthikronald_, and a LUG too.... :)03:52
pepeI did sudo dpkg -i skype*03:52
Concord_Dawn!w32codecs03:52
funkyHatoverflow, is that a problem? it still works doesn't it?03:52
pepeand it seems to install well03:52
pepeexcept it doesn't run03:52
Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: Also, do you know the app that automatically mounts NTFS/FAT32 partitions?03:52
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carthikpepe, it has some dependencies...03:52
codecainenalioth, ok just confused because i dont know what the "channel ctcp" is all about03:52
flughgood grief, the spam. gotta get xchat to set the umode automatically on connect. yeesh, ought to just join efnet or something :)03:52
pepesays there's an error loading shared libraries libqt-mt03:52
overflowfunkyHat, nobody says that was a problem03:52
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pepeI'm guessing I need to apt-get qt?03:53
pepegeez, this channel's swarming with porn bots03:53
carthikpepe- install lib-qt-mt3 i guess...03:53
unvs_yeh03:53
ArsonideHey I used Synaptic to download "3ddesktop", just interested in how it looks, but how do I activate it now? It installed...03:53
funkyHatpepe, /umode +CE (as the topic says)03:53
carthikpepe no, lib-qt-mt3-dev or something.... try searching in synaptic...03:53
overflowfunkyHat, In fact, Im asking coz maybe you need help to maintain that package or something03:53
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intelikeywhat's with this "[mango(n=^ece^@200.92.67.63)]  Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign  ... [yalniizM(n=erzuruml@81.214.94.129)]  Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign "   repeeting over and over.... ?03:54
carthikArsonide.... type 3ddesktop & at a terminal... your video card shoudl support 3dfx though....03:54
NoUse!tell Carpe_Libertatem about ntfs03:54
bimberiArsonide: type "3ddesk" in a terminal03:54
carthik3desk, sorry :|03:54
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carthik3ddesk, i mean03:54
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carthik /mode --no-verbose...03:54
bimberiand carthik's & is a good idea :)03:55
ArsonideWOW, NICE.03:55
Arsonidelol03:55
funkyHat:D <3 3ddesktop03:55
ArsonideNow how do I tie that in with the existing browser?03:55
linuxpoeto.k. ubuntu is now my default desktop **IF** I can find a way to rip mp3s03:55
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intelikeyare there any ircops around ?03:55
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ronald_ /msg nickserv link ronald n635835203:56
carthiklinuxpoet, many ways.... searching on google will lead you the right way03:56
robotgeekintelikey: read /topic03:56
funkyHatArsonide, right click on your gnome panel (where you want the button to go, mine is next to my VDM buttons) and click add applet, make it a launcher03:56
ChadzaApplications / Sound & Video / Sound Juicer CD Ripper03:56
ChadzaCheck that one out.03:56
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pepelinuxpoet - debian has a godlike package database, do a search in synaptik... I'm guessing it'll be one of KDE's apps, though03:56
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Paradoxxthey need to update the package they have for gaim03:56
Paradoxxso i can get the latest version...03:57
Paradoxxlol03:57
Concord_Dawnanyone know any NTFS drivers that allow you to write?03:57
Concord_DawnI don't care how experimental they are.03:57
moparfan90is there a way to report people sendin porn?03:57
moparfan90to get them banned?03:57
bimberiParadoxx: backports has later versions of gaim03:57
intelikeyrobotgeek yeah what about the topic ?03:57
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pepemoparfan90 /umode +CE03:57
robotgeekintelikey: to get rid of the spambots03:57
pepethat'll get rid of them03:57
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ParadoxxConcord_Dawn:  if i recall correctly, if you have 2.4+ (kernel that is) you can write to NTFS partitions, but its not all that safe03:58
Paradoxxit does?03:58
Concord_Dawnnot afaik.03:58
moparfan90okt thanks03:58
pepeI thought only 2.6+ kernels could write NTFS03:58
pepeand they can't edit, only overwrite03:58
Paradoxxbimberi:  but when i try to apt-get, i can get it03:58
Concord_Dawntbh, I have kernel 2.6.1103:58
moparfan90can someone help me install limewire? please.03:58
Concord_Dawnand it don't write.03:58
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bimberiParadoxx: gaim 1.4 iirc03:58
ParadoxxConcord_Dawn: you gotta mount it as a -rw i think03:58
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funkyHatmoparfan90, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella03:58
intelikeyhehhe yeah i missed that line    sorry.03:58
Concord_Dawnerm03:58
dcunywhat's the question about installing limewire?03:58
Paradoxxbimberi: huh?03:58
Concord_DawnIt's an external drive03:59
pepeedit your fstab03:59
pepe/etc/fstab03:59
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pepeand where under options for your NTFS partition, put rw03:59
pepeor -rw03:59
moparfan90funkyHat, whats that?03:59
pepeor something like that03:59
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pepehehehe ^^03:59
pepesame thing03:59
pepeit should have a device name03:59
{GuNNeR}grrrrrrr darn having to install 64 bit ubuntu only to get my wifi workin in ndiswrapper03:59
bimberiparadox iirc = "if I recall correctly" (if that was what huh? was related to)03:59
pepeyou could add it to fstab or just do mount -rw /dev/(device name)04:00
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dcunyHrm... I04:01
intelikeynew kernel support ntfs rw mode ?04:01
Paradoxxbimberi: i kno that 1.4 is the laterst version, but atm i have 1.1.5 and it won't update04:01
funkyHatArsonide, you got that working?04:01
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Paradoxxeverytime i try to update gaim it says that it is held back04:01
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Concord_Dawnherm04:01
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dcunyI've having trouble installing onto an older laptop. Any takers?04:01
{GuNNeR}is anyone here running ubuntu for amd64?04:01
Concord_Dawncan someone tell me where external devices are?04:01
Concord_Dawnand not /media04:02
Concord_Dawnthe /dev name04:02
jtan325argh i am getting spammed04:02
Concord_Dawnif there is one.04:02
jtan325when i close #ubuntu, no more spam04:02
funkyHatjtan325, /umode +CE04:02
Paradoxx!wiki04:02
jtan325what does that mean?04:02
funkyHatdo that, in here, it will stop the spammers04:02
bimberiParadoxx: ok - the official backports has 1.3.104:02
ArsonideOk I see, 3ddesk --goto # will go to the correct desktop, can I tie these commands to the buttons in the bottom right?04:03
ronald_How about /mnt?04:03
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ArsonideSo that pressing them does the effect?04:03
Paradoxxwhen i try to update it dosen't04:03
Paradoxxy is that?04:03
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pepehmm04:03
pepeso sound doesn't seem to work at all for me...04:03
] BreliC[Concord_Dawn, /dev/sdX ?04:03
gdarelCan someone help figure out what I need to do to intall/convert an RPM fle04:03
funkyHatArsonide, not the desktop switcher applet, but you could make your own set of buttons for it04:03
] BreliC[Concord_Dawn, my card reader and external drives mount as /dev/sda, etc04:03
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Arsonideah, so I can't tie it in seamlessly with ubuntu04:03
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kelly_hello ppl...04:04
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funkyHatArsonide, not with the desktop switcher applet no04:04
intelikeypepe not muted is it ?04:04
pepenope04:04
pepechecked alsamixer04:04
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kelly_please help me install my modem in my laptop..using ubuntu..04:04
funkyHat(you can remove that applet if you wish to just have a row of 3ddesk launchers)04:04
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pepeended up unmuting everything to make sure, everything's at decent levels, as well04:04
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ronald_gdarel: read here for converting: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/RPM-for-Unix-HOWTO-8.html04:04
ParisiI wiped mbr and with that lilo/grub, so i can only boot XP at the moment, whats an easy way to re install a boot loader?04:04
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gdarelthanks04:05
bimberiParadoxx: put your sources.list on a pastebin04:05
Parisieccem is spamming04:05
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intelikeyspeakers plugged in propperly ?04:05
kelly_please help me install my modem in my laptop..using ubuntu..:(04:05
pepeyup04:05
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kelly_im a newbe..04:05
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carthikConcord_Dawn, an easy way to find out is to plug in the external device and immediately after, trype "dmesg" in a terminal, and then to read the output....04:05
pepeunplugged them, tested them on another box, plugged them back in04:05
pepeno sound04:05
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jsubl2kelly_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=modem&titlesearch=Titles04:05
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kelly_jsubl2: thanks for the link..'04:06
Webby`Help! I can't get embedded video to work. I get a black screen with the tottem controls at the bottom04:06
pepeUbuntu uses OSS as default? what?04:07
enchanterit use OSS as default04:07
pepe...04:07
pepethat's silly04:07
pepeeven so, it still doesn't work04:07
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funkyHatenchanter, no it doesn't04:08
intelikeypepe try "play <some_audio_file> "  and see if it errors04:08
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funkyHatit uses esd on top of alsa04:08
Gazer_Hi.. I'm new to Hoary.. How do you make changes to the boot up kernel arguments on a PPC (G3)?  I see no GRUB menu at bootup as explained in the howtos..04:08
pepeif I had any audio files at hand I would04:08
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enchanterfunkyHat, But it is on my laptop04:08
funkyHatdid you upgrade from warty?04:08
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pepeI just installed this, and I have no mp3's at hand :P04:09
intelikeypepe then how do you know it is not working ?04:09
ParisiIs there an easy way to rebuild the bootloader after the mbr has been wiped?04:09
funkyHat* enchanter04:09
Webby`anyone?04:09
pepeI'm trying out a program that should give me some sound04:09
pepenamely skype ^^04:09
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bmecoli-synaptic won't run... it prompts ofr password, then it does nothing.... no errors... nothing04:09
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stoeptegelcan someone tell me why my sata drives aren't accessible in kubunu-live?04:09
intelikeypepe "find /usr -name *.au "  and see if you have an audio file you can test with04:09
funkyHatpepe, try opening a terminal and typing killall esd04:09
funkyHatand then launch sype again04:10
Concord_Dawnok04:10
enchanterif you like. you can try this cnspy.bokee.com to find something about the ESD04:10
Concord_DawnI can't mount my NTFS drive as rw04:10
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seth_kConcord_Dawn, writing to NTFS drives is not supported except with (buggy) software that is not included with Ubuntu; you'd have to install it yourself04:10
bmecoli-Concord_Dawn, you don't want to from what I heard04:10
bmecoli-if you could writing to it would corrupt your data04:11
seth_kConcord_Dawn, it's very easy to hose your system.04:11
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funkyHatpepe, if that fixes it, upgrading to alsa 1.0.9b should fix your problem04:11
intelikeyfunkyHat pepe i didn't mean to be butting in there. yall go ahead.04:11
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kelly_when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do?04:11
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pepeheh that's alright :P04:11
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Concord_Dawnwell04:11
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Webby`HELP! How do I get embedded video ro work? All I get is a black box with totem controls at the bottom04:11
Concord_DawnI want to rsync to my external HDD, which is formatted in NTFs04:11
ttyS0!wallpapers04:12
ubotuttyS0: What?04:12
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pepeI'll be back in a sec...04:12
kelly_when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,04:12
dcunystoeptegel, by default all the "real" drives are hidden under the live cd. I assume Hubuntu is similar.04:12
ParisiStupid spammers!04:12
Gazer_Hello?04:12
intelikey<Concord_Dawn>   last i knew, linux still doesn't support rw mode for ntfs,  or but no rw04:12
bmecoli-wait... I think I know now04:12
Concord_Dawnargh04:12
bmecoli-it might still be locked04:12
bmecoli-dur04:12
Concord_Dawnwell, I want to backup Ubuntu!04:13
Webby`no one wants to help me?04:13
Concord_DawnAnd I can't do that without my external.04:13
ParisiIs there a way to only have registered nicknames be able to private msg me?04:13
Concord_Dawnyes.04:13
Concord_DawnParisi, /umode +CE04:13
dcunyThere's a script somewhere that let's you automatically set them up under the live cd, but I don't know what it is...04:13
ParisiThank you!04:13
dcunyLet me look...04:13
ParisiStupid spammers04:13
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spiderwormhey all what's the trick to silence the spammers again?04:13
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intelikeysure Webby` i just don't know anything about your problem.04:13
bmecoli-shouldn't someone report them?04:13
Parisi/umode +CE does not work04:13
bmecoli-and have their ip address klined?04:13
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I unmount a partition?04:13
spiderwormbmecoli-: you really think they're humans?04:13
dennis_WTF04:14
Webby`intellikey: I'm trying to make embedded video work from launch.com04:14
funkyHatCarpe_Libertatem, umount04:14
spiderwormbmecoli-: that might work actually04:14
dennis_Why did I get like 200000 pms04:14
dennis_of spam04:14
kelly_when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,04:14
dcunyTry the script at:www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab04:14
dennis_from this server?04:14
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ronald_Concord_Dawn: If you happen to have a copy of Ghost laying around it makes great backups04:14
Webby`intellikey: And all I get is a black box04:14
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Concord_Dawnronald_, I need NTFS WRITE SUPPORT!04:14
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Webby`intellikey: I tried using the HOWTO from the forum and followed the directions but it doesn't work04:14
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ronald_I used Ghost for NTFS and Raw04:14
intelikeyyes Webby`  i read that.  but i still don't know anything about it...  :/04:14
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Carpe_LibertatemSo to unmount /dev/hdb1, an ntfs drive, I'd type...04:15
bmecoli-holy fuck another one04:15
Webby`oh04:15
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funkyHatumount /dev/hdb104:15
Concord_DawnCarpe_Libertatem, umount /dev/hdb104:15
funkyHat(yes, i spelled the command right ;))04:15
Parisi<china_Girl> Free WebCamera04:15
ParisiHow the hell to i block that?04:15
intelikey<Carpe_Libertatem>  umount /dev/hdb104:15
ParisiIts getting on my nerves guys04:15
funkyHatParisi, /umode +CE04:15
naliothf***ING hardware shite04:15
funkyHatParisi, it's in the channel topic04:16
ParisiUMODE Unknown command04:16
lunitikfunkyHat, XChat knows about /umode?04:16
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bmecoli-you could ignore all... but that means that no one else can send you a msg04:16
funkyHatlunitik, does here04:16
ParisiI am under MIRC04:16
Concord_DawnParisi, do /mode Parisi +CE in your status window then.04:16
funkyHatif not then try /raw umode +CE04:16
lunitikParisi, /mode <your_username> +CE04:16
gdarelHow do I install a Deb file?04:16
Parisi * Parisi sets mode: +CE got it04:16
funkyHator that ^04:16
ParisiThanks guys04:16
lunitikParisi, good job04:17
funkyHatgdarel, sudo dpgk -i package.deb04:17
lunitikParisi, you're welcome04:17
Concord_Dawnronald_, mind pointing me to an old copy of ghost?04:17
gdarelTHANKS!04:17
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dcunyI've got a question about installing Ubuntu on non-i686 hardware...04:17
funkyHatnp04:17
lunitik!tell ops to change /umode +CE to /mode <username> +CE in topic ... all clients support this.04:17
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funkyHatgood call lunitik04:18
lunitikcafuego, no way to make the bot tell the bots something?04:18
Concord_Dawnindeed04:18
ParisiAgreed04:18
lunitikcafuego, no way to make the bot tell the ops something?04:18
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Concord_Dawnjsut msg Seveas.04:18
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Concord_Dawnjust*04:18
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lunitikConcord_Dawn, rather not... me and Seveas don't exactly get along...04:18
ParisiIs there an easy way to rebuild the bootloader after the mbr has been wiped accidently?04:18
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Concord_DawnI'll msg then.04:18
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lunitikConcord_Dawn, plus it appears he's not online....04:19
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gdarelfunkyhat, when I type sudo dpgk -i cinelerra_1.2.2-2_i386.deb I get a comand not found04:19
Concord_Dawntrue.04:19
lunitikgdarel, dpkg04:19
Concord_Dawnleave him a memo then.04:19
funkyHatdpkg04:19
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funkyHatsorry if that was my typo04:19
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funkyHatyeah, it was, oops04:19
intelikey<gdarel> How do I install a Deb file?what you were told works but you might consider using apt-get insted,  read up on it "man apt-get"04:19
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ronald_bye guys... got to run.04:20
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Concord_Dawn[22:20:03] -MemoServ- [Seveas]  is rejecting all memos04:20
Concord_Dawnwell how f***ing nice04:20
lunitikhaha04:20
lunitikWho else is an op in here?04:20
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kelly_hello...ppl..when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,04:20
Concord_Dawndunno04:20
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Carpe_LibertatemI am trying to delete and format an NTFS partition. I am getting errors using qtparted.04:20
bimberi!tell lunitik about ops04:20
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Carpe_LibertatemNo Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.04:21
Carpe_LibertatemError: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an u nclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.04:21
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naliothCarpe_Libertatem: you are using the wrong tool, use cfdisk or fdisk instead04:21
Carpe_Libertatemnalioth, so what do I do if I want to delete the partition /dev/hdb1 ?04:22
intelikey<Carpe_Libertatem> I am trying to delete and format an NTFS partition. <---- i'm not sure i follow you.  are you trying to delete the partition, or format the partition ?   because if you delete a partition there is nothing there to format....04:22
Parisibrb04:22
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dcunyAnyone (help on installing on non-i686 hardware)? Beuller?04:22
dcuny*sigh*04:23
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: use fdisk or cfdisk and have them do it for you04:23
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fridimhi04:24
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pepewell, that didn't work04:24
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pepeI downloaded a wav file04:24
pepeI also tried that music player program, and turned on one of the radio station04:24
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CarlFKHP print/scan/fax thing bought new in the last year (don't know the model) - what are the chances of it showing up under "new printer/detected printers"?04:24
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lunitikpepe, you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?04:25
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pepeVolume Meter shows that there is, in fact, some form of sound going on, but my headphones aren't working04:25
fridimi've just installed ubuntu. During the installation it didn't ask me a root password. How can i do now ?04:25
pepehm, I'll apt-get it, one sec04:25
lunitikpepe, wait... thats not for wav files04:25
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pepeah roger...04:25
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lunitikpepe, yeah... you should get it anyways... mp3 support04:25
pepek04:25
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intelikey<CarlFK> usb devices ?04:25
puzzlehello04:25
CarlFKintelikey - huh?04:26
puzzledoes anyone know how i run batch files on ubuntu04:26
CarlFKhi puzzle04:26
pepeit does seem like a hardware problem04:26
bimberiCarlFK: I've got printing and scanning on my HP multifunction, let me find that page...04:26
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pepebut debian worked with sound just fine before I installed Ubuntu on this box04:26
lunitikpuzzle, batch files... as it .BAT? you don't04:26
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puzzleu cant04:26
CarlFKall I (er, friend on the phone) needs is print04:26
puzzleu cant rune .bat04:26
puzzlerun .bat04:26
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pepewine *.bat ^^04:27
naliothpuzzle: they are called 'scripts' and you run them from a terminal like so "./scriptname" or "sh scriptname"04:27
puzzlewell i am trying to run a client04:27
Carpe_Libertatemnalioth, how do I point cfdisk to /dev/hdb - right now it's on /dev/hda04:27
bimberiCarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters04:27
CarlFKpuzzle - you can run "bash scripts" which is like a "dos .bat file"04:27
intelikeypuzzle make them executable04:27
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: start it with "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb"04:27
CarlFKbimberi - thanks04:27
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puzzlewell wait what i mean is i have a java files04:27
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puzzleand i want to run them with the cleitn04:27
puzzleclient04:27
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puzzlehow04:28
puzzlei have all the .class files04:28
puzzlewho will let me show them or something04:28
bimberiCarlFK: yw :)04:28
bmecoli-damn04:28
bmecoli-still doesn't want to run04:28
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naliothpuzzle: see the /topic re pastebins or #flood04:28
bmecoli-whyyyyyyyyy?04:28
pepeso, anyone else got any ideas about how to get sound working properly?04:29
puzzleno basicly i have .class files for a game client and i want to run them and on windows u use client.bat04:29
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puzzleso how would i run them04:29
pepeit seems like Ubuntu just isn't working properly with my onboard sound card04:29
XRangeanyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox04:29
mebaran151why does everyone give abiword such a bad rap04:29
mebaran151it seems like a decent wordprocessor for all my work, and relatively well integrated too04:30
paulwpepe, i feel ya man04:30
puzzlewho wants to help m04:30
paulwpepe, same here, what chipset do you have?04:30
pepe0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) <-- that's the card04:30
pepeit's an onboard one04:30
puzzlei have that one04:30
puzzlelol04:30
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pepefunny, since VIA AC97 is pretty much what most people out there have :-\04:30
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Jazy84hey guys i got a question for you guys.04:30
puzzleso who can help me04:30
Jazy84how can i find out what the path is to my external dvd burner04:31
puzzlerun the java class files04:31
glaucoh man it looks like the wrong night for me to ask for help04:31
pepepuzzle, do you have jre?04:31
paulwanyone know how to manually setup a card that is obviosly recognized by the OS yet doesn't put out any sound for some reason?04:31
puzzleyes04:31
Jazy84when i plug it in i can see it and i can use it but i need to know the specfic path..04:31
Jazy84and ideas?04:31
glauchow do I make my Intel 82915G built-in driver compile?04:31
bimberipepe, paulw: have you tried this (it worked for me on two different PCs with onboard sound - easily undone if it doesn't work) - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=804:31
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puzzlewell who can help04:32
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pepebimberi I'll give that a shot...04:33
intelikeypaulw run alsamixer  as root and unmute it.04:33
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puzzle...04:33
bimberipepe: hope it helps :)04:33
puzzleanyone04:33
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nate_Does anyone know of an ISO creator for Linux?04:33
paulwintelikey, not muted04:33
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intelikeymkiso :)04:33
paulwintelikey, alsamixer looks goos04:34
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!lilo:*! Possible server splits may follow. Please bear with us.04:34
puzzlehttp://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png04:34
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puzzlehttp://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png04:34
lunitiknate_, intelikey really means mkisofs04:34
puzzlelook at taht04:34
pepepaulw04:34
pepeby the way04:34
lunitiknate_, apt-get it04:34
pepedid you set alsa as the standard sound driver? ^^04:34
XRangeanyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox04:34
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intelikeyif muted  [MM]  at the bottom of the column ...04:35
!lilo:*! Looks like we're good. Cancel the alert, and thanks. ;)04:35
puzzlehello04:35
puzzleomg no one here can help04:35
pepeApplications > Sound Video > Volume Control > File > change device04:35
pepe:P04:35
pepemine was OSS by default04:35
pepeof course, neither setting worked anyways04:35
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nate_how do I use this? Is it run right through terminal?04:35
puzzlehello04:36
puzzlehello hello04:36
puzzleam i muted04:36
puzzlecan no one hear me04:36
nate_Hello Puzzle04:36
puzzleNakkel,04:36
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intelikeypuzzle type  "google.com/linux" in your browser and search for "howto run java scripts"   :)04:36
kelly_i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my mode.. http://pastebin.com/34973704:36
pepebash: ro: command not found04:36
pepehm04:36
puzzleomg but i bet someone can help04:36
puzzleintelikey,04:36
puzzlethats what this channel is here for04:36
cafuegojava -jar foo.jar is how to run java.04:36
pepebimberi I can't really do what that link tells me, here :P04:36
intelikeyno it's not.04:37
cafuegoif you need javascript, get your head checked04:37
puzzlelol yea it is04:37
puzzlelook at ubuntuguide.org04:37
puzzlehttp://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png04:37
puzzlelook at that pic04:37
reikipuzzle: help comes faster to those that at least attempt to help themselves04:37
kelly_please help me..:(04:37
puzzlei have kept tryin and tryin04:37
kelly_i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model.. http://pastebin.com/34973704:37
kelly_please help..04:38
puzzlehttp://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png04:38
kelly_:(04:38
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bimberipepe: yes you'll need to edit that file (menu.lst) and reboot i'm afraid04:38
cafuegopuzzle: hint: a .BAT is for DOS.04:38
puzzleok04:38
Concord_Dawnis there any way for me to backup to NTFS?04:38
puzzlewell what do i do04:38
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cafuegopuzzle: See whati's in that file, run the Linux equivalent.04:38
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intelikeywell i could care less what some doc on ubuntu.org says about the perpose of the channel. puzzle i am not here to do web searches for you.   your question is java specific, not ubuntu specific.04:38
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pepewhich file?...04:38
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pepeohh04:38
pepenm ^^04:38
pepewhoops...04:38
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bimberik :)04:39
cafuegoit will be "java -cp SOmethingorother foo"04:39
puzzle@echo off04:39
puzzletitle The Revolution - By Spikes Of Christ [SOC]  and Tsunami www.rsrevolution.net04:39
puzzlejava -cp .;./BIN; client04:39
puzzlepause04:39
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puzzlethats what the .bat says04:39
XRangeanyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox prints from OpenOffice fine04:39
delltonyrainmen stop spamin you freakin dumbarse04:39
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puzzle.bat04:39
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puzzleclient .bat04:40
Concord_Dawnerm04:40
puzzle@echo off04:40
puzzletitle The Revolution - By Spikes Of Christ [SOC]  and Tsunami www.rsrevolution.net04:40
puzzlejava -cp .;./BIN; client04:40
puzzlepause04:40
kelly_i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model and brand of my modem.. http://pastebin.com/34973704:40
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cafuegopuzzle: "java -cp .;./BIN; client"04:40
delltonywhats with all the spam bots lately?04:40
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kelly_please help :(04:40
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cafuegopuzzle: ALso, please don't paste into the channel.04:40
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intelikeypuzzel read the topic04:40
puzzlesorry04:40
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puzzleim sorry04:40
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puzzleok04:40
puzzleim sorry04:40
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puzzlenow what file do i make to run that04:40
puzzlecafuego,04:40
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cafuegowhat do you mean make a file, just typ eit.04:40
paulwpepe, you still here?04:40
kelly_hello???? please help??????04:40
puzzleno not that04:40
delltonythere we go i nneed to read the topic haha04:40
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puzzlei cant run the .bat04:41
cafuegoactually, java -cp .:./BIN client04:41
paulwpepe, i don't see which line i need to add acpi_irq_isa=7 to04:41
puzzlethats what the .bat says04:41
cafuegopuzzle: I've told you TWICE now what to run04:41
puzzleso i can i make a linu04:41
puzzlehow do i run it04:41
puzzlehow04:41
puzzlecaf04:41
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puzzlecafuego,  please04:41
puzzlejust say04:41
kelly_hello?????04:41
puzzlei am not that smart when it comes to this04:41
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puzzlecafuego, please04:41
Concord_Dawnis there any way for me to backup to NTFS?04:42
puzzleomfg04:42
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puzzlecan someone just tell me04:42
naliothConcord_Dawn: writing to NTFS from linux is a good start to an all-linux system04:42
funkyHatpuzzle, maybe in a terminal window?04:42
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Concord_DawnI'm running a dual-boot.04:43
naliothpuzzle: .bat files run on windows04:43
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puzzlenalioth, a lil late i know that04:43
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naliothConcord_Dawn: writing to NTFS can cause total NTFS partition failure04:43
XRangeanyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox .                prints from OpenOffice fine04:43
xulMunkeecan LGPL software be modified and re-released as pure GPL?04:43
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Concord_Dawnnalioth, yeah, I know.04:43
intelikeyjava -cp .;./BIN; client             puzzle   if you are too lame to type the command from the .bat file    and to lazy to even read a howto      tell me why we should care if you get that to work or not ?     please tell me why ?04:43
Concord_DawnSo is there a way for me to do it from WindowS?04:43
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puzzlezzle   if you are too lame to type the command from the .bat file    and to lazy to even read a howto      tell me why we should care if you get that to work or not ?     please tell me why ?04:44
puzzleConcord_Dawn So is there a way for04:44
puzzleoops04:44
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puzzleit did not work04:45
ukjohndConcord_Dawn I use Acronis True image - works fine for me in XP04:45
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=== burner wonders whats with all the irc spam these days??
puzzledasameog@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ java -cp .:./BIN client04:45
puzzleException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: client04:45
naliothburner: see the /topic04:45
seth_kburner, it's an attack right now04:45
carthikalright, so what could be preventing my usb drives from being detected and mounted?04:45
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puzzlehello04:46
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puzzledid anyone see what i said04:46
pprince_Hi.  How do I get a newer irssi in Ubtunu 5.04 (HH)?  irssi-text is 0.8.9 and irssi-snapshot is "0.8.6+cvs.20031111".  With irssi-snapshot installed, irssi --version reports 0.8.604:46
pprince_irssi cvs is fine/great.04:46
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XRangeis there a channel for printing in Ubuntu04:46
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burnerpprince_, newer than .8.9?  compile from source? :)04:46
xulMunkeecan LGPL software be modified and re-released as pure GPL?04:46
pprince_burner: Yeah, exactly, but I was hoping there was a package to do it for me :P04:47
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lunitikWill Muine play .pls files? Rhythmbox is horribly broken  :(04:47
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burnerapt-get.org maybe?  be careful with those though04:47
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kelly_i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model and brand of my modem.. http://pastebin.com/34973704:47
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kelly_hello???? please help??????04:47
carthikalright, so if i wanted to manually mount the usb hdd, how would i figure out which /dev/* to mount?04:47
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carthikdmesg is not too helpful today on the desktop04:48
puzzleholly04:48
burnerlunitik, i've been using beep, xfmedia, & amarok for the time being04:48
puzzleno one here helps04:48
puzzlei did what they say04:48
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lunitikburner, beep maybe... hmm04:48
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pprince_Maybe I'm missing something about irssi-snapshot, but isn't that supposed to install a nightly development snapshot from CVS?04:48
carthikpuzzle, folks try to help - and say nothing when they can't help... thats the way it works... for free04:48
lunitikburner, assume its very much a known bug then?04:48
jsubl2kelly_, try running sudo wvdial   maybe you will get lucky04:48
burnerlunitik, in rhythmbox?  using breezy?04:48
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lunitikburner, yes04:49
puzzlethey are not sayin they cant help04:49
burneryep :)04:49
puzzlemy goodness04:49
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burnernew version was released today, but it didn't fix it for me04:49
burnersupposedly it did for another lucky soul04:49
lunitikburner, k... cool... saves me a trip to b-u-c   :)04:49
pprince_helin is a SPAMMER04:49
carthikpuzzle, what i intended to say is that there is no obligation :)04:49
burneri came here earlier today with the same question ;)04:49
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puzzlei know04:49
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puzzlebut still04:49
puzzlemy goodnes04:49
carthikwhat?04:49
kelly_jsubl2: no luck..:(04:49
kelly_any suggestion?04:49
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jsubl2kelly_, no sorry.  have not used a modem in a long time.04:50
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tod_ko1Hmm... this room has porn bots!04:50
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tod_ko1Later04:50
pprince_YES.04:50
Juhazpuzzle, would you rather every last of the 315 people on the channel explicitly told you that they do not, in fact, know the answer?04:50
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funkyHattod_ko1, read the /topic04:50
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lunitikburner, ooo... beep is quite nice... thanks   :)04:50
kelly_i realy dont know what is the modem of my laptop... i have tried scanmodem...but there are many txt..i dont know where is the model of my modem04:50
pepealright04:51
pepestill no go on the sound system04:51
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puzzlemy goodnness why do people come in here to help if they done04:51
bimberipepe: darn! oh well :(04:51
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pprince_OPs: Channel has coordinated spammers from different hostmasks, changing nicks and connecting from different hosts.04:52
naliothpuzzle: rewrite your batch file04:52
MaxKyotoi've switched my window manager to blackbox, but for some reason my xsession file in $HOME isn't being used... any ideas?04:52
puzzlehow04:52
puzzlenalioth,04:52
naliothpprince_: see the /topic04:52
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pprince_oh, sorry.04:52
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puzzledid u see what happens when i d that04:52
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robotgeekMaxKyoto: what are u using gdm/kdm?04:53
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MaxKyotogdm04:53
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carthiklets try this another way - /dev/sda1 on this desktop is a scsi harddrive... /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda5 are other partitions on the harddrive (boot - swap and / respectively). So now if i plug in a usb drive, what would it be recongnized as - sorry - dmesg tells me nothing about the usb device being plugged in....04:53
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robotgeekMaxKyoto: i think you might have to create a session or so, /etc/gdm/sessions04:54
pepeI'm on a VIA AC97 sound controller, and I can't get sound to come out of my headphones... I've tested them in other comps, and I used to get sound out of this box a couple days ago when I had Debian on it04:54
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intelikeykelly_ did you try setting modem to /dev/ttyS0   or /dev/ttyS1  or S2 S3  to see if it was a hardware moden04:54
pprince_carthik: actually, /dev/sda is the drive and /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc are all partitions.04:54
carthikrobotgeek, hi! the usb thingy still no worky04:54
pepeI've checked everything that's come to mind, including whether it's muted or not04:54
chucky_aumix and check sound levels an mute04:54
XRangehave you opened mixer to unmute04:54
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pepealso, Volume Meter shows that there's sound output going on, but I'm not getting anything04:54
robotgeekcarthik: not even lsusb output?04:54
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carthikpprince_, oh, alright... so where would the usb drives be, if at all?04:54
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MaxKyotoi have no /etc/gdm/sessions04:54
pprince_carthik: and, if dmesg said nothing, then the drive is probably not being recognized at all by the kernel because of lack of driver support (either compiled in or loaded as a module)04:54
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MaxKyotoshould i not use the session from the gdm chooser?04:55
pepesound is unmuted and at decent levels04:55
carthikrobotgeek, lsusb gives naught04:55
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ksmurfWOW! That was cool!  The startup in breezy hasn't done anything till this update.  I had a black screen with ubuntu refected during startup.... that was COOL!04:55
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GoClickAre there any good public DNS servers anyone knows of? My provider's servers keep crashing and that's not so good04:55
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carthikpprince_, how come it works just fine on my laptop though? (which also runs same ubuntu version etc)04:55
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pprince_carthik: I don't know.04:55
carthikpprince_, the usbmodules are loaded....04:55
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pprince_carthik: Compare lsmod on your desktop and your laptop.04:56
robotgeekMaxKyoto: make a copy of whatever session is present, and edit it to use blackbox04:56
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pepeanyone know what I can do to troubleshoot my sound system here?04:56
XRangeGoClick used your router gatway as dns04:56
robotgeekcarthik: maybe, the harddrive doesn't work without usb 2.0? :))04:56
ksmurfpepe ....  what's the issue04:56
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pepewell04:56
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pepeall my channels are unmuted04:56
GoClickXRange our router doesn't DO DNS :(04:56
pepebut I just can't get any sound04:56
MaxKyotoi already have a blackbox session in gdm (via apt-get install blackbox)04:57
ksmurfwhat card ?04:57
carthikpprince_, lsmod yields same results... on dektop it give u/o/ehci_hcd (usbcore)04:57
pepeVIA AC9704:57
pprince_carthik: huh?04:57
carthikrobotgeek, but it does, just fine on another desktop (i plugged into into another...)04:57
pepewhich is strange, because it's just about the most common sound controller I've seen :P04:57
ksmurfAC97 ...... Did you check the forums?04:57
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WillySillythe colony 3 cd isnt on the website04:57
pprince_carthik: Are you using the same kernel package on both machines?04:57
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burnerlunitik, glad you like beep :)04:57
carthikpprince_, lsmod | grep usb gives usbcore 3 uhci_hcd, ehci_hcd, ehci_hcd is what i meant04:57
pepethere seemed to be some sort of solution having to do with the grub booter but still no go04:57
carthikpprince_, yes04:58
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funkyHatpepe, have you tried it with anything other than skype?04:58
carthikpprince_, in fact i finished installing everything concurrently on both machines :)04:58
pepeyup04:58
robotgeekcarthik: do the usb ports work?04:58
pepeI've tried it with a .wav file, and with a radio station thing04:58
pepesame thing04:58
XRangeis there a channel for printing in Ubuntu04:58
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pprince_carthik: :/ sorry then, I don't have time to help, or experience with that particular issue to help well/quickly in any case.04:58
pepeVolume Meter shows sound output going on, but I get nothing on my headphones04:58
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ksmurfpepe ... sorry I don't have AC97 on this board so I won't be any help04:58
keithackness- im havinga ton of trouble getting hte synaptic package manager to work04:58
carthikrobotgeek, when i plug in a 128 sandisk cruzer, the lights on the 128MB card come on real bright04:58
keithit keeps reporting some kind of problem with kmix04:59
keithheres the error:04:59
robotgeekcarthik: ahhh!04:59
robotgeekcarthik: weird!!04:59
keithim attempting to install the sun java sdk04:59
carthikpprince_, i really appreciate your help.... i am too puzzled to know what to do next... really04:59
leeis there a way to tell the Software Update thingy in the panel next to the clock to ignore certain updates?  it's telling me there's an update for a java package, which I built manually, and there isn't04:59
WillySillythe colony 3 cd isnt on the website04:59
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline04:59
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kelly_intelikey: yes i have... when i set it to /dev/ttyS1 if i connect it will say modem not responding.. if i change it to the diferent../dev/ttySo or other tty the error is.. cannot open modem...:(04:59
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keithanyone know what i can do about this? its happening whenever i try to install ANYTHING05:00
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robotgeekcarthik: what usb hdd is this?05:00
Jazy84what program can be used to make dvd imgs05:00
carthikrobotgeek, i know.... well, my desktop must have had a real rough day, i suppose :)05:00
Jazy84exact05:00
Jazy84?05:00
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Jazy84not movies or anything like that. but data05:00
chucky_i didn't think java would run on ubuntu05:00
naliothchucky_: it does05:00
carthikrobotgeek, its a 200 gig seagate in a external usb enclosue (but even the sandisk 128 mb usb stick wont work)05:00
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depraveanyone have luck with installing scribus 1.3?05:01
robotgeekcarthik: i have a similar setup05:01
QMarioCan I use my Yahoo e-mail account with Evolution?05:01
pprince_I like how irssi-text refers to irssi-snapshot as "irssi-snapshot: Development version of the text-mode client" but it's not.05:01
depraveQMario : does yahoo have pop3?05:01
depraveor imap?05:01
depraveetc05:01
pepeah here we go05:01
depraveanyone have luck with installing scribus 1.3?05:01
pepehow do I disable esd again?05:01
intelikeylooks like it is /dev/ttyS1 (com2 in windows) but a winmodem  so if you are really lucky kelly_ you might find a driver for it,  check linmodem.com or something like that.05:01
pepeand use alsa instead05:01
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deprave!scribus05:01
ubotudeprave: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!05:01
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deprave!tell deprave about scribus05:02
depraveuseless.05:02
funkyHatQMario, if you can set up yahoo to use pop3 and smtp, then yes (i think you can do the pop3, not sure about smtp though, so you may not be able to send mail, unless you have another email account)05:02
naliothQMario: you'll need something like yahooPOPs or similar05:02
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master008hi05:02
naliothfunkyHat: yahoo doesnt do pop3 unless you pay05:02
robotgeekQMario: thunderbird has a nice webmail plugin05:02
pepeI think my problems may be with the esd sound daemon05:02
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QMarioHow do I stop these spam robots?05:02
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pprince_QMario: Topic.05:02
robotgeekQMario: /topic05:02
pepeQMario /umode +CE05:02
intelikeyi hate propritary hardware.....05:02
pprince_QMario: I wish they would just eliminate them, though.05:02
pprince_What is +CE anyway?05:02
bimberi!umode05:03
ubotuThe freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml05:03
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pprince_thx, trying to find that.05:03
master008i have wireless card,,, how do i install my wireless network card in my laptop.. im using ubuntu05:03
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depravecrap05:03
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QMarioThank you!05:03
master008anybody help me05:03
XRangepepe:  try system, perefences, multimedia system selector05:03
QMarioWho wants to look at pornography anyway? :'(05:04
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pepehmm05:04
QMarioNot me! >:o05:04
lunitiksup @ smeg being quite nice  :o05:04
pepeALSA doesn't work?...05:04
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pprince_eww, +CE breaks stuff for me.  Are the spam bots too smart to deal with properly?05:04
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intelikey!+wifi05:04
ubotuit has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:04
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XRangepepe:  thats if you use gnome05:04
naliothpprince_: what does it break?05:04
Concord_Dawnpprince_, Spam bots are too stupid to deal with it at all.05:04
master008any body wanna help me05:05
pepeI -am- using gnome05:05
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Concord_Dawnmaster008, with what?05:05
master008i want to install my wireless network card on my laptop.05:05
Concord_Dawnok05:05
Concord_Dawnwhat wireless card?05:05
pepewhen I picked ALSA instead of ESD, I got an error that it can't make a pipeline to ALSA...05:05
lunitikpprince_, people that aren't registered can't message you... if this is related to your 'breaks' ... tell your 'friend' to register...05:05
QMarioIs it possible to use Evolution with Gmail?05:05
intelikey!+tell master008 about wifi05:05
ubotutold master008 about wifi (rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto)05:05
pprince_Receiving (wanted) personal CTCP messages, sending (wanted) CTCP replies, and receiving (wanted) messages from unidentified users.05:05
master008its 11m wlan card05:05
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GoClickQMario not really no05:05
QMario!spam05:05
ubotuQMario: What?05:05
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Concord_Dawnpprince_, well, deal with it. It's either that or being flooded.05:05
bytefooman, 3ddesktop is kind of laggy huh05:05
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pprince_heh, whatever.05:05
Concord_Dawnbytefoo, yeah, but it's elite looking05:06
GoClickAlthough I predict Google will add IMAP interfaces to GMAIL eventually, OR someone will make one05:06
QMarioCan I use Gmail with Thunderbird?05:06
Concord_Dawnmaster008, check out the link ubotu just gave you05:06
Concord_DawnQMario, yes.05:06
bytefooyeah, but for me it freezes everything for a split second every few seconds :-/05:06
XRangemaster008: try system , admin , networking in gnome in ubuntu05:06
bytefoocan't even type lol :X05:06
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robotgeekQMario: yeah05:06
Concord_DawnI have it working05:06
QMarioHow do I set it up?05:06
bytefooit is sweet lookin though :-/05:06
Concord_Dawnone sec, lemme grab you the page05:06
Concord_DawnQMario: http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1328505:07
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master008thanks you so much guys05:07
Concord_Dawncan anyone here add definitions to ubotu05:07
Concord_Dawnno problem master00805:07
naliothQMario: log into your gmail account using a browser, and therer is a link there to set up your client05:08
Concord_Dawnnalioth, I just gave him the link :)05:08
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bimberiConcord_Dawn: you can :)05:08
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bimberi!tell Concord_Dawn about add05:08
naliothConcord_Dawn: great! concurrence is good security05:08
rendiguy's anyone know about change gateway ?05:09
XRangeis there channel for cups05:09
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cafuegoOooher05:09
XRangeis there channel for cups in ubuntu05:09
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XRangegot printer working in openoffice but not other apps05:09
krazikamikazeanyone here had any success getting the IT8212 raid controller to work in linux?05:09
krazikamikazeim sooo close but im completely stuck05:09
cafuegokrazikamikaze: Isn't that software raid?05:10
Concord_Dawnubotu gmail is Instructions to configure GMail with a POP3 client are located at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=%67mail&hl=en&answer=1210305:10
ubotuokay, Concord_Dawn05:10
XRangeevolution, mozilla-firefox want print05:10
krazikamikazeno its hw05:10
rendi!gateway05:10
uboturendi: I give up, what is it?05:10
levanderHow do I attach multiple terminal windows to the same screen session?05:10
cafuegokrazikamikaze: An on-mobo chip?05:10
krazikamikazeyeah05:10
Concord_Dawnlevander, what do you mean?05:10
cafuegosoftware then05:10
cafuegothe software being the bios on that chip05:10
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krazikamikazeeh.. ok05:10
funkyHatlevander, C-a c05:10
Concord_Dawnlike have a tabbed terminal?05:10
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cafuegoused it in ide mode and use the kernel 'md' driver05:10
bytefooyeah, there are very few HW raid cards :X05:10
levanderConcord_Dawn: I want to have two terminal windows attached to the same screen session.05:10
Concord_Dawnlike have a tabbed terminal?05:10
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levanderConcord_Dawn: screen is an application, you know the application screen?05:11
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Concord_Dawnno.05:11
Concord_DawnI don't.05:11
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pprince_screen rocks.05:11
masterlokihi there can't someone help me05:11
cafuegobytefoo: there's nots, but they're invariable NOT integrated into a mobo and cost at LEAST five times as much as the mobo you'll be using it with :-)05:11
funkyHatlevander, this guide is very good: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen05:11
XRangelevander: try gnome-terminal konsole05:11
krazikamikazewhat is md, its currently loaded on my system05:11
Concord_Dawnmasterloki, we can try :)05:11
XRangelevander: try gnome-terminal are konsole05:11
masterlokiI have no sound and I've already been on the forums05:11
bytefooexactly cafuego05:12
cafuego!raid05:12
ubotufrom memory, raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto05:12
masterlokiAlsa seems to have the proper driver05:12
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funkyHatXRange, that's probably not what levander wants05:12
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levanderfunkyHat: thanks, that does look like a good guide05:12
cafuegoAlthough, I think the one on my mobo won't run in IDE mode.05:12
XRangemasterloki : try system, perefences, multimedia system selector05:12
masterlokiand alsa mixer shows that master & PCM are at 100%05:12
levanderXRange: yeah, I use terminal applications for different stuff than screen.05:12
cafuegokrazikamikaze: Do you have spare normal DIE ports on the mobo?05:12
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cafuegos/DIE/IDE/05:12
intelikeymasterloki it's not muted ?    sudo alsamixer05:12
krazikamikazei have 105:12
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krazikamikazeso anyway, i can see the hd, i can see the partitions05:13
levanderfunkyHat: you use emacs and screen?  Need to remap screens C-a prefix to all it's commands, but not sure what a good thing to remap it is.  Emacs uses C-a to go to the beginning of the current line.  Having the two conflict really sux.05:13
cafuegokrazikamikaze: Ah that's fine then.05:13
masterlokiintelikey: nope, it's not muted05:13
krazikamikazebut every time i try to mount it says its busy or "already mounted"05:13
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funkyHatlevander, no, i use vim05:13
krazikamikazewhich its not05:13
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krazikamikazeim using the 2.6.11-ac705:13
Gazer_Evening.. how do you enable dma on a cdrom drive on a PPC G3 Lombard?  How do you know what the cdrom is referred to?05:14
funkyHatok, levander there is an escape code to use C-a in the application that is running, it's in that guide somewhere05:14
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XRangegot printer working in openoffice but not other apps like evolution & firefox05:14
rendiguy's05:14
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rendimany spamer there05:14
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cafuegoGazer_: it'd be /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc probably.05:14
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professor_chaosQuestion? With a new drive, do I need to fdisk, or can I just mkfs? To create ext3...05:14
konra`I am trying to run something, and I get an error: "error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" what do I need?05:15
cafuegoprofessor_chaos: fdisk to create a partition, then mkfs05:15
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krazikamikazeany idea why it would give me that error though?05:15
krazikamikazemount: /dev/hde5 already mounted or rdata0 busy05:15
professor_chaoscafuego, a new disk is not already a partiton???05:15
bytefoonow i have to fix my wireless :-/05:15
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keithack guys i really need help- no matter what i try to insatll on the package manager it returns a problem with kmix:05:15
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline05:15
krazikamikazeneither of which is true05:15
cafuegoprofessor_chaos: of course not05:15
keithand i cant install anything05:15
konra`professor_chaos, you have to create partitions, and then format them05:15
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levanderfunkyHat: yeah, but don't think I want to hit the escape code every time I want to go to the beginning of the line in emacs.  Think it would just be easier to remap C-a in screen to something else.  Not sure what the best thing to re-map it is, to avoid as many conflicts as possible with emacs.05:16
fanopnaickonra`: you probably need to install libsdl-image1.205:16
konra`professor_chaos, partitions are made by fdisk, formatted by mkfs05:16
professor_chaoskonra`, but a new disk doesn't have a partition?05:16
konra`fanopnaic, cna I do that from synaptic?05:16
fanopnaicYep05:16
funkyHatlevander, perhaps C-\05:16
konra`professor_chaos, it might, but safest bet is to make the partiton table anyways05:16
professor_chaoskonra`, cafuego Thanks05:17
konra`welcome05:17
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levanderfunkyHat: that's not a bad guess.  I just tried it in emacs.  C-\ enables some kind of multi-lingual input I'll never need, because I only speak one language.05:17
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funkyHat:)05:18
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funkyHatand you can escape it anyway if you ever do need it05:18
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professor_chaoswhats with the free sex cameras???05:18
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levanderfunkyHat: I would use C-q, but not sure if it would matter that I'm conflicting with the control flow sequence.  You know, C-q and C-s?05:18
intelikeymasterloki you can do "play <any-sound-file> & od /dev/dsp "  [ctro] +C to stop od   if it outputs lines of numbers to the screen the software is working, possably wrong card selected or other (hardware) problem    if no output setup alsa again05:18
levanderprofessor_chaos: free sex cameras?05:18
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bimberiprofessor_chaos: the channel is being infested by spambots - see last bit of /topic05:18
funkyHatlevander, the spambots05:18
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carthikprofessor_chaos, please read the /topic05:18
funkyHatprofessor, do /umode +CE05:18
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professor_chaosOK, I'm new to irc and this channel!05:19
rendidude05:19
rendimany many spam here05:19
carthikprofessor_chaos, it's all fine...05:19
intelikeywe need some boticide.....05:19
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funkyHatrendi, read the /topic05:19
carthikone more mention of spam, and that's it - i will get a job at walmart!!!05:20
funkyHathahaha05:20
carthik;)05:20
bimberispam :)05:20
intelikey:)05:20
masterlokiintelikey: got number, but I'm sure I got the right card and the right driver05:20
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funkyHat!spam05:20
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, funkyHat05:20
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masterloki!spam05:20
bimbericarthik: lol05:21
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intelikeycheck speakers speakerwires propper port plug ,,,,, masterloki05:21
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bytefoowhen a package is not available, but is referred to by another package...how do I find out which package is referring to it and what is it saying about the missing package? o_O05:21
funkyHatubotu, spam is a problem that is affecting #ubuntu at the moment, to overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter05:21
ubotufunkyHat: okay05:21
masterlokiintelikey: They're in the right jack, they work on XP05:21
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tjsIm running ubuntu on my dell inspiron 9200, having issues with the disks powering down to quickly. im not sure if its a laptop power management thing.. but stuff like tab completing paths is taking seconds while the disk spins up, its a PITA05:22
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masterlokiman someone is spamming me05:22
tjscan I make it stay powered up for a few minutes?05:22
bytefoo:|05:23
runelindI am having issues mounting a windows networked drive05:23
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bytefoomarital issues? :D05:23
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runelindI do mount -t smbfs username=username //ip/share /mount/point05:23
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intelikeyhmmmm masterloki you've got a good one then.  i don't know what to tell you...  if the software is outputing sound to the device and the hardware all works correctly it should work......05:23
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runelindand after putting in my password it seems happy05:23
runelindbut when I ls the dir I get permission denied05:23
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funkyHatmasterloki... see what i just said to ubotu ^05:24
Chrustinhohow can i delete softlinks?05:24
pprince_with rm05:24
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runelindanyone have any thoughts?05:25
intelikeyChrustinho man rm05:25
masterlokiintelikey: I was using FC4 and sound was right05:25
pprince_ln -s /path/to/realfile /path/to/newsymlink makes a symlink, rm /path/to/newsymlink removes it.05:25
Chrustinhois i sure that it doesn't delete the source files?05:25
Chrustinho+t05:25
pprince_Yes.05:25
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Chrustinhook, thanks05:25
intelikeyChrustinho man rm05:25
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masterlokibut I've erased FC4 totally so I can't get that config05:26
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masterlokiany ideas05:26
runelindthe user has full permissions on the windows side of thing05:26
runelinds05:26
lunitikmasterloki, you know what module you need?05:26
funkyHatmasterloki, try setting your default inputs and outputs to alsa, and run killall esd in a terminal window05:27
professor_chaosrunelind, why would linux care about M$ permissions...05:27
masterlokiLunitk: I have the module (snd-via82xx)05:27
runelindcause I'm mounting a windows drive05:27
Madpilothi everyone05:27
lunitikfunkyHat, thats bad advice... too many apps default to using esd... but gnome etc uses gstreamer (which is all that changes)05:27
bytefoowhat is PREFIX?05:28
masterlokifunkyHat: who do I set ins ans outs to alsa05:28
funkyHatlunitik, i'm just fishing for clues05:28
n1xt3rrunelind: read the man page for mount, try setting uid and gid or umask05:28
professor_chaosrunelind, I think you either have access or don't. Not read only. I might be wrong, prove it.05:28
funkyHatmasterloki, system, preferences, multimedia systems selector05:28
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lunitikmasterloki, that is loaded? sudo -i ... then in the resulting root environment... echo /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp05:29
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lunitikmasterloki, this sees if the module itself is working...05:29
funkyHatmasterloki, as lunitik said all that is changing is the gnome sounds, if that does work, you will have to chage your settings in other applications05:29
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intelikeylunitik a sound file would be better than /dev/urandom   ;/05:30
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ubuntuok, im so confused i can't find anything,lol, but I finally have run a live cd and connected to internet, can someone tell me link to how to save my live settings? im tired of searching.................05:30
masterlokiman let me change to Gnome05:30
lunitikintelikey, you know where one is located?  cuz I can't be asked to go in search of one  :/05:30
funkyHat/usr/share/sounds/*05:31
ubuntuin others words, is thee a specefi app?05:31
qt2shouldnt using synaptic to install nvidia drivers automatically set up 3d acceleration?05:31
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funkyHatqt2, there is an instruction in the description of the nvidia-glx package, did you follow it?05:32
ShadowUBHi, I am trying the live install of Ubuntu and am having some problems05:32
ShadowUBcan someone please help?05:32
ubuntuok.............05:32
paulproteus|laptShadowUB: It's not a "live install", just a "live CD".05:32
paulproteus|laptIt doesn't install anythingl.05:32
lunitikShadowUB, if you ask ... sure05:32
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ShadowUBi meant live cd05:32
paulproteus|lapt!asktoask05:32
ubotumethinks asktoask is We'll never know what your question is unless you ask it.  Don't ask if you can ask; don't ask if we can answer a question - ask a question!05:32
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lunitikubuntu, welcome to IRC... /nick somethingelse05:32
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ubuntucrap, i think im invissable05:32
ShadowUBok say i try to play a file, i get an error to check if totem was installed correctly05:32
ubuntulol05:32
ShadowUBand the same thing for almost all the other apps05:32
ShadowUBthe only stuff that works is firefox and gimp, even gimp throws some errors05:33
ShadowUBis this normal or .. what am i doing wrong?05:33
professor_chaosubuntu, why are you booting over and over to the live CD instead of installing???05:33
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ShadowUBme? this is the first time ive ever tried ubuntu period05:33
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ShadowUBi wanted to experience it a bit05:33
MadpilotShadowUB: there's no mp3 support on the LiveCD, of that's what you're trying with Totem...05:34
ShadowUBbut.. its not really working :)05:34
professor_chaosubuntu, I don't really know the answer to you question, I didn't think anyone would want to do that?05:34
ShadowUBah05:34
lunitikShadowUB, thats not normal... however I'm not sure exactly what the issue would be...05:34
ShadowUBso mpg files wont play either, i gather05:34
lunitikShadowUB, mdz would be the man to ask about all things livecd ... he maintains it ...05:34
ShadowUBgotcha05:34
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ShadowUBi like the look of this distro and am going to set it up, just wanted to get a feel for it :)05:34
lunitikShadowUB, the LiveCD doesn't include codecs etc... you can however grab them after install...05:34
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lunitikShadowUB, legally, Ubuntu cannot distribute these things... but others are kind enough to do so instead  :)05:35
ShadowUBi gotcha05:35
ShadowUBim impressed that it was able to read all my ntfs volumes05:35
lunitikShadowUB, simularly, GIMP can't open some document types by default...05:35
ShadowUBand find my windows network without problems05:35
ShadowUByep..05:35
lunitikShadowUB, :)05:36
ShadowUBthe errors i got with gimp.. uhh let me run it05:36
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ShadowUB"failed to open file /usr/share/gimp/2.0/menus/toolbox-menu.xml"05:36
ShadowUBfaled to open a bunch of other files.. but its running05:36
masterlokilunitik: Ok in the first option with pipeline alsasink I've got an error05:36
lunitikmasterloki, whats it say?05:37
MadpilotShadowUB: do all the GIMP toolboxes look like they're there?05:37
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ShadowUByes, Madpilot05:37
masterlokilunitik: can't not build testing pipeline fot ALSA05:37
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ShadowUBtrying the device manager, id like to see how much of my stuff it detected05:37
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lunitikmasterloki, blah... ls /dev/dsp  ... is it there?05:37
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masterlokilunitik: nope05:38
lunitikmasterloki, 'sudo pkill -HUP esd' if it is, and try again05:38
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lunitikmasterloki, ahh... lsmod | grep snd  ... you sure its there?05:38
lunitikmasterloki, (the module - snd-via82xx)05:39
masterlokilunitik: The module is there05:39
lunitikmasterloki, if its any consolation... I know Ubuntu works with it.. because thats what my other box uses  :)05:39
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Carpe_LibertatemHey - I need a distro reccomendation for a friend. It's a laptop with a P1 266mhz Chip, 2gb HDD, and 64 MB of RAM.05:39
|Imp|windows 9505:40
masterlokilunitik: I've killed esd now what05:40
intelikeylol05:40
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: damn small linux05:40
lunitikmasterloki, strange... 'dmesg | grep audio' return anything?05:40
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lunitikmasterloki, doesn't matter for now... your kernel isn't recognizing your sound...05:40
masterlokilunitik: Nothing05:40
lunitiks/sound/sound card/05:40
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ShadowUBquestion..05:41
phunkinayecan i run ubuntu on atari 800?05:41
masterlokilunitik: Should I rebuild the kernel05:41
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intelikeyCarpe_Libertatem that will run any linux distro, if you like cli .   other wise.   go with the  95 sujestion05:41
lunitikmasterloki,05:41
lunitikno05:41
masterlokilunitik05:41
ShadowUBi 'm missing a drive.. i have cdrom, E (USB) and an F (firewire) drive.. how do I access drives C and D: :)05:41
lunitikmasterloki, wait... is it a custom kernel?05:41
Carpe_LibertatemIt won't run anything with a GUI?05:41
ShadowUBtwo 120 gig drives.. any ideas?05:41
masterlokilunitik: Nope is the one packed05:41
|Imp|Carpe_Libertatem, nope05:42
ShadowUBthey're ntfs formatted, jsut like the externals05:42
|Imp|too little ram05:42
masterlokilunitik: but I've got K7 AMD05:42
lunitikmasterloki, ok... then no  :)05:42
|Imp|if you can get 256 ram into it05:42
|Imp|then you can run gui05:42
lunitikmasterloki, same exact thing I used to have... very strange  ;(05:42
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: try "damn small linux" you (and your friend) might be surprised05:42
intelikeyCarpe_Libertatem it will run a linux GUI but you will be into swap space all the time and with that setup they will dever be pleased.05:42
ShadowUBnautilus doesnt work..05:42
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Carpe_LibertatemCan DSL format a HDD and install itself onto it?05:43
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naliothCarpe_Libertatem: it is a live/installable distro all on one disk05:43
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naliothhowdy tritium05:43
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Carpe_LibertatemAll right. I reccomended that earlier in passing, but I did not know if it could install itself or not. :-P05:43
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Carpe_LibertatemDanke schoen.05:43
tritiumhey nalioth :)05:44
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Chrustinhodoes anyone know a fast audio cd ripper. I am using abcde, but i had some windows cd rippers which were much more faster...05:44
iratsuwhere can i fetch info about the CPU and motherboard i'm running?05:44
bytefooit's actually schoene ;)05:44
lunitikmasterloki, you have OSS modules loaded?05:44
bytefoosince you can't make an umlaut :o05:44
naliothChrustinho: try grip05:44
masterlokilunitik: dunno05:44
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naliothiratsu: at a terminal, type "cat /proc/cpuinfo"05:45
intelikeypci card lunitik05:45
Chrustinhodoes grip rip faster than with the original speed (1x)?05:45
masterlokilunitik: how do I check05:45
pepealright here goes again05:45
lunitikmasterloki, lsmod | grep snd   .... anything stating 'snd_pcm_oss'?05:45
pepeI've been working on this for a while, and I still have no sound whatsoever05:45
naliothChrustinho: try it. also you can search in synaptic for "ripper" or look at freshmeat.net or sourceforge.net05:45
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ShadowUBcould someone help me access the missing drives on my system?05:46
phunkinayehey, can anybody see me?05:46
MadpilotChrustinho: Sound Juicer gets up to 2.7x for me...05:46
pepeactually05:46
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lunitikphunkinaye, nope... sorry05:46
phunkinayehaha05:46
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phunkinayeok05:46
masterlokilunitik: snd_pcm_oss is emptu05:46
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masterlokilunitik: snd_pcm_oss is empty05:46
pepeI give up, I'll just throw gentoo on this box, and that'll fix everything05:46
deprave.deb packages are auto packages right?05:46
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Chrustinhonalioth: ok, i know, but perhaps someone had some experiences with a good and especially fast ripper05:46
pepeso much for giving Ubuntu a shot, geez05:46
lunitikmasterloki, thats fine...05:46
pprince_Chrustinho: If you asking, does a CD ripping program read data from a CD faster than the length of time it takes to play the music on it, then yes.05:46
bytefoo:/05:46
masterlokilunitik: but snd_pcm has snd_pcm_oss05:46
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deprave.deb packages are auto packages right?05:46
lunitikmasterloki, its loaded... thats a good thing...05:46
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pprince_pepe: haha, as a Gentoo and Ubuntu user I find your comment humorous.05:47
deprave.deb packages are auto packages right? or how do you go about installing them, dpkg -i?05:47
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Dragon513a.. I just installed the new ATI Radeon driver and on the ATI control panel it says "transfer mode" is "PCI"05:47
Dragon513i use 960005:47
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killapop[OFF TOPIC]  sorry - is there any way to avoid getting spammed?05:47
Dragon513shouldn't it be AGP 8X?05:47
lunitikmasterloki, bah.... enless intelikey has any better ideas... restart... Ubuntu really doesn't have any nice sound config tools  :/05:47
bytefoolook at the topic :|05:47
paulproteus|laptkillapop: Yes, see topic.05:47
Guardianwhats with all the spammers05:47
pepepprince: how come?05:47
pprince_deprave: They're best installed from the net, from an official Ubuntu repository, with Synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get.  They autoresolve dependencies.  Using dpkg like that is as bad as... rpm.05:47
killapopOoops!!!05:48
naliothChrustinho: i can't remember the last time i ripped a cd, so won't be much help05:48
masterlokilunitik: is something for a to-do list05:48
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naliothdeprave: .debs are not autopackages05:48
bytefooi can't remember the last time I owned a cd :X05:48
naliothkillapop: see /topic05:48
pepepprince: my two reasons thus far for not just installing gentoo on this are because emerging would take a while on this compy (it's pretty old), and I can't really teach my grandfather how to use gentoo -.-05:48
Chrustinhook, thanks, folks :)05:48
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naliothGuardian: see /topic05:48
lunitikmasterloki, indeed... someone really should work on porting Fedora's system-config-sound to Ubuntu... but I digress...05:48
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pprince_pepe: I've yet to encounter a system Ubuntu didn't run perfectly on, but of course there are some.  What's your issue?05:49
lunitikmasterloki, sometimes, rebooting fixes the sound... has here before (on that same configuration)05:49
Guardianthanks05:49
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stoeptegelargh damn spammers (why do they even think i'am gone hit the url? :s)05:49
pepemy sound refuses to work... at all05:49
pepewhich is strange because I'm on a VIA AC97, not some obscure sound card05:49
pprince_stoeptegel: It's a numbers game.  Apparently enough people do to make it worth the effort to spam.05:49
naliothstoeptegel: see /topic for a barrier to them05:49
masterlokilunitik: I read the forums and rebooted several times, with the thing posted there but let give it a try05:50
lunitiktritium, not everyone is using IRSSI ... tell people about /mode <your_nick> +CE instead05:50
pprince_pepe: Do you see your sound hardware being detected in dmesg?05:50
paulproteus|laptlunitik: /umode works for me in gaim, fwiw05:50
bytefoosomeone should port HWD from archlinux to ubuntu :|05:50
pepeI haven't noticed that05:50
pepelspci does detect it though05:50
pepehm05:50
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lunitikpaulproteus|lapt, it doesn't work in XChat... so its not a valid mechanism...05:50
pprince_lspci shows all PCI devices, supported or not.05:50
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pprince_pepe: ^^05:50
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paulproteus|laptbrb, all05:51
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tritiumlunitik, it works in xchat too05:51
lunitiktritium, no, no it doesn't.05:51
pepewhat should I grep to check that, then? O.o05:51
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tritiumlunitik, I'm using xchat, dude, and I did it...05:52
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pprince_pepe: dmesg | grep recently after a reboot, or perhaps /var/log/dmesg05:52
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pepewell yes, but what exactly do I grep? :P05:52
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pepedmesg | grep *?05:53
lunitikpprince_, uhhh... grepping for nothing?05:53
pprince_pepe: I would just read through it, or look for things like sound, 97, snd, etc05:53
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tritiumlunitik, make sure you're using capital letters ;)05:53
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pprince_lunitik: I thought he meant what file/command output does he grep, not what fo.05:53
masterlokilunitik: Back and no sound :-\05:53
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pepeanyways05:54
pepeI don't see it in there05:54
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lunitikmasterloki, I don't know what to tell you man... this is an ongoing issue with Ubuntu though... someone with the technical knowledge should do something about it...05:54
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pepehow do I get it to load, then? heh05:54
lunitikmasterloki, I have ran you through all the steps I take... and I always get sound to work.05:54
funkyHatlunitik, the issue is esd ;)05:54
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funkyHatit's nice if it works (and if you can cope with the delay ;);))05:54
lunitikfunkyHat, no... no its not... I'm using esd... and he killed esd  :/05:54
pepesound really does seem to be a huge issue in Ubuntu, forum's swarming with posts, yet no solutions05:54
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intelikeyyou can run any command from xchat that you can type in a command propmt.....      /exec <command>05:55
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depravehow do i install a .deb file05:55
lunitikintelikey, /exec -o even lets us see it  ;)05:55
pepewell, when I try to change the sound output system to ALSA, it says it can't make a test pipeline to it...05:55
intelikeyor any other irc client i've ever used05:55
lunitik 20:55:46 up  4:38,  2 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.11, 0.1605:55
Madpilotpepe: true - some of us where lucky enough to have it work out of the box, though. (AC/97 onboard sound, no problem at all...)05:55
tritiumdeprave, with dpkg -i05:55
lunitikhaha @ that being weak... but yeah  :)05:55
depravethanks thought so05:55
intelikeylunitik yeah i left the -o out on purpose05:56
tritiumdeprave, man dpkg for more info ;)05:56
|Imp|how can i use xnest to run two sessions at once?05:56
masterlokilunitik: let's see I've got VIA8235 card and snd-via82xx driver, alsamixer says PCM and Master are at 100%. Anything else??05:56
lunitikintelikey, its useless for seriously moronic users  ;)05:56
lunitikmasterloki, dude... you don't have a /dev/dsp ... this means the kernel has no idea about how to control your soundcard...05:57
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lunitikmasterloki, it knows about it to some extent due to it (likely) showing up fine in lspci ... but alas, it can't do anything with it...05:57
masterlokilunitik: How do I set this up05:57
|Imp|how can i use xnest to run two sessions at once?05:57
|Imp|i want to use gdm from a nested window05:58
lunitikmasterloki, grrr... it should be working... all your correct sound modules are loaded... idk what is wrong05:58
pepeI'm guessing there's no way to do a make menuconfig kernel edit to make sure everything's all set in the kernel for Ubuntu, is there?...05:58
pepenot without changing around tons of other settings that is05:58
tritiumpepe, if you want to compile your own, you can do that...05:58
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pepeI don't mind that ^^05:59
Dreamer3are changes to dev in ubuntu not sticky?05:59
Bored1edhello all05:59
intelikeypepe masterloki you both need to "man modprobe"05:59
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|Imp|hello?05:59
tritium|Imp|, is xnest installed?05:59
lunitikpepe, that won't do much... most you can do is compile the module into the actual kernel... but it won't fix the issue... the driver is loaded, and its not working05:59
|Imp|tritium, yup05:59
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lunitikintelikey, the modules are loaded.06:00
tritium|Imp|, you should be able to open a new login in a nested window from Applications->System Tools06:00
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|Imp|how do i reset gnome?06:00
masterlokiintelikey: I have the proper drivers06:00
bytefooctrl+alt+backspace06:00
lunitik|Imp|, you log out and back in06:00
bytefooor that :-/06:00
Dreamer3how do i make a changes to /dev/ stay in place?06:00
pepevery well, then what module should I modprobe? modprobe alsa?06:01
lunitikDreamer3, what are you trying to do?    modules.conf  :/06:01
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Dreamer3lunitik: the qemu install created an entry with certain permission in dev... and it's gone after a reboot06:01
intelikeyDreamer3 you script them and let the script run at startup or stop using udev  or edit udev.conf  or should i go on ?06:02
pepeoh interesting06:02
melfykImp: to restart the gui you press ctrl+alt+bkspace06:02
pepeapparently, I only have about 6 modules to be loaded at boot time06:02
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pepenone of which have anything to do with sound...06:02
Dreamer3intelikey: hmmmm, is not using udev a valid option?06:02
pepe...06:02
lunitikpepe, yeah... thats bad  ;)06:02
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lunitikpepe, you know the correct module?06:02
phunkinaye"Sessions" is how I would save my current settings, correct?06:03
pepeno :-\06:03
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lunitikpepe, what does lspci say about it?06:03
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masterlokilunitk intelikey pepe, hold on I read that id you install alsa-oss it might wotk06:03
pepe0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)06:03
intelikeyyes but it will eliminate 'hotplug' also   thus usb devices will require mounting and unmounting ...    not the best of ideas...06:03
tritiumintelikey, see /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz06:03
lunitikpepe, haha... same thing as masterloki ;)06:04
tritiumyou can disable udev06:04
pepe:P06:04
lunitikpepe, modprobe snd-via82xx06:04
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masterlokilunitk intelikey pepe, this won't work??06:04
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lunitikmasterloki, try it06:04
masterlokiOk06:04
lineagehello all, i need some help please...i'm trying install a dvd game by cedega, but appears this:06:04
pepelunitik I did... don't get nothing06:04
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depraveanyone have success installing scribus 1.3 ?06:05
intelikeyno error means no error.06:05
lineagehello all, i need some help please...i'm trying install a dvd game by cedega, but appears this::06:05
lineagearea51@mark:/cdrom$ sudo cedega  /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe06:05
lineagewine: '/home/area51/.transgaming/wineserver-mark' is not owned by you06:05
dreamiewhat is the program to watch dvds in ubuntu?06:05
|Imp|hey, how do i get XDMCP chooser to work with xnest?06:05
lunitikpepe, is /dev/dsp there06:05
paulproteus|laptlineage: Do:06:05
lunitik?06:05
pepealright, just double checking here, how do I check exactly what modules I have loaded again? I may have checked in the wrong place..06:05
deprave.j scribus06:05
paulproteus|laptsudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/06:05
Carpe_Libertatemdreamie: I use Xine, but you can use other programs.06:05
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lunitikpepe, lsmod06:06
pepeyup, dsp exists, thankfully06:06
paulproteus|laptCarpe_Libertatem: Good to see you back.06:06
pepeoh06:06
lunitikpepe, you want lsmod | grep snd though06:06
pepethere we go ^^06:06
dreamieCarpe_Libertatem , is that installed? or do i have to install it? where do i get it?06:06
lineagethanks paulproteus|lapt  i'll try06:06
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pepehmmm06:06
lunitikpepe, your sound should be ok then... try restarting GNOME and see if it makes any noise  :)06:06
pepealright...06:06
Bored1edhow do u use xine?06:06
Thread-xgnite fellows.. im working with ubuntu . . and im getting this the keyboard and06:06
Dreamer3intelikey: so, i have to script changes?06:06
Thread-x> mouse buttons go haywire. Keys repeat like ccccccccccraaazzzzzzzzyyy and06:06
Thread-x> mouse button clicks register erratically. As a result, the desktop is06:06
Thread-x> unusable.06:06
pepebrb then06:06
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Carpe_Libertatemdreamie: Not installed by default, you need to run a terminal and apt-get it, or use Synpatic. Type in Xine at the search.06:06
lineagenothing happens paulproteus|lapt06:07
lunitikpepe, if it does... type the module name in /etc/modules so you don't have to keep modprobing06:07
lunitikGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR06:07
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lunitikDreamer3, bed time?06:07
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paulproteus|laptlineage: If it finished, try Cedega again.06:08
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ksmurfhello all 2 questions.  First is there someway to uninstall the Official Driver for Nvidia.  2nd Is Nvidia-glx working?06:08
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ksmurffor Breezy06:08
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dreamiehow do i create a password for root?06:08
NoUse!root06:09
ubotuI heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:09
Carpe_Libertatemdreamie: You don't use root. Use sudo.06:09
pprince_dreamie: sudo passwd, but don't do it, as stated.06:09
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pprince_dreamie: you can do anything with sudo you can do with root, and sudo -s is handy.06:09
connorphi06:09
carthikdreamie, and if you are missing hte # prompt do sudo -s -H06:09
tritiumor sudo -i06:09
masterlokilunitik, any progress06:09
ksmurf!nvidia breezy06:10
ubotuksmurf: Syntax error in line 106:10
lunitikmasterloki, he hasn't come back yet  :/06:10
connorpim new to ubuntu..any tips for a new user?06:10
ksmurf!nvidia06:10
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:10
lunitikmasterloki, you install alsa-oss?06:10
dreamiei am in terminal and i want to install xine... how do i do this if it asks me for root06:10
masterlokilunitik, yep but didn't work06:10
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lunitikdreamie, sudo apt-get install foo06:10
intelikeyDreamer3 the changes you make to /dev   'for what ever reason'  can all be saved to one file.  close your terminal and open one then edit .bash_history and save the exact commands that fixed your /dev/  to one file. (note remove any 'sudo' s )  save the fils as S99fix_dev  chmod the file 740  and put it in /etc/rcS.d    there you go can i do it for you ?06:10
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pepestill no go on my sound system06:10
paulproteus|laptlineage: Any luck?06:11
lunitikpepe, did you restart the system... or just GNOME?06:11
pepethe system06:11
lineagepaulproteus|lapt,  nothing.06:11
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lunitikpepe, bah06:11
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dreamiecan't find package06:11
pepeO.o06:11
pepeooo06:11
pepewhoops? ^^06:11
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kelly_please help... my modem does not work...06:11
lineagejust one question, sudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/ <- this is exactly for what ?06:11
Dreamer3intelikey: thanks, that's almost step by step :)06:11
kelly_i have tried all...option...06:11
depravejesus the spam on this network is terrible06:11
lunitikpepe, sudo nano /etc/modules  ... and throw 'snd-via82xx' in there again06:11
ksmurfdoes nvidia glx work for breezy yet?06:11
bytefoowhat can i use to burn .iso files :|06:12
pepelsmod does say the snd_via82xx module is loaded though06:12
Dreamer3wow, are sex bots more active than usual?06:12
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pepeit's there lol06:12
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pepeit seems to be loading on startup anyways06:12
lunitikpepe, restarting will have put you in the same situartion again06:12
carthikDreamer3, yeah -- full-moon -- horny bots.. the works....06:12
pepeI don't think I changed anything though...06:12
Dreamer3carthik: that sucks06:12
lunitikpepe, bah... its in lsmod ... but isn't working?06:12
pepenope06:12
bytefooalsamixer? :D06:12
carthikDreamer try /umode +CE to bar them06:12
lunitikpepe, you mean yes?06:12
intelikeyDreamer3 if you really want it to be up to code,  start the file with "#!/bin/sh "   <--- that line without the quotes...06:13
pepeit's not working06:13
pepeI get no sound06:13
lunitikpepe, and /dev/dsp is still around?06:13
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pepethe Volume Meter, though, seems to think there's sound coming out pretty much ok whenever I play a sound file06:13
Dreamer3intelikey: i know how to write a bash (or sh) script :-)06:13
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dreamieis there another dvd viewer except xine?06:13
lineagejust one question, paulproteus|lapt,  sudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/ <- this is exactly for what ?06:13
pepeyup dsp still there06:13
Dreamer3intelikey: mostly i was just asking the repurcussions of ditching udev earlier06:13
Dreamer3lately seems like things i do in linux are harder06:13
pepemy volume meter bounces around happily whenever I play a sound file06:14
bimberipepe: btw, don't forget to remove that "acpi_irq_isa=7" kernel option if it didn't work for you06:14
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pepebut I'm getting no output06:14
net_benjodoes someone know how to get a city code for Toronto, ON from the weather.com website?????i've just spent 30 min looking for the darn thing06:14
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pepeah yes06:14
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pepewhere was that again?...06:14
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dasreichHi06:14
carthikdreamie, there is totem and there is gmplayer06:14
kelly_can somebody look up...my scanmodem data... http://pastebin.com/349776 i can not pin point what is model..type or model... please..06:14
bimberipepe: /boot/grub/menu.lst06:14
pepethanks06:14
kelly_im newbee...06:14
dreamiecarthik, talking to me?06:15
intelikeymajor repercutions are no hotplug   and possably having to use 'sudo mount /blah '  a lot more.06:15
dasreichi just installed ubuntu and I enter my login/password and it hangs and i can move the mouse, anyone know whats up?06:15
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kelly_can somebody look up...my scanmodem data... http://pastebin.com/349776 i can not pin point what is model..type or model... please.. im newbee....06:15
net_benjoanybody?? how do you find a code for your city for iWeather gdesklet???06:15
blrichcan somone help? i can't get my onboard graphics card to be recognised by X06:15
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Dreamer3yeah!06:15
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Dreamer3my first DSL works :)06:15
Dreamer3almost06:15
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blrichI have a gigabyte k8vm800m via chipset mobo, but the graphics isn't recognised by anything06:16
pufflunitik: Well, so reinstalling the linux-image package fixed the wireless module... until I suspended to disk and resumed, and it was back.06:16
carthikdreamie, you asked about dvd players, and i used your name/nick so yes i was talking to you, indeed06:16
lunitikDreamer3, you're hosting a pppoe?06:16
dreamiecarthik, how do i get those? i tried to apt-get install them but it doesnt work06:16
Dreamer3lunitik: no, building a package for damnsmall linux :)06:16
blrichcan anyone help me?06:16
carthikdasreich,  sounds like a bad x.org set up....06:16
puffReinstalling and rebooting again fixed it, then tested suspend-to-disk and resumed, problem's back. Reinstalled and rebooted, wireless is back and I got back online to ask for help :-(06:16
pepehmmm06:16
lunitikDreamer3, ohhh... you're leaving us?06:16
pepemaybe I should just try reinstalling the whole system?.....06:17
carthikdreamie, refer to http://ubuntuguide.org for step by step instructions.... ubuntuguide just has the instructions though.. things might still be unavailable etc... be forewarned :)06:17
dasreichcarthik: how do I change this though I mean it didn't prompt me to really do anything06:17
Dragon513I"m getting errors from running :fgl_glxgears"06:17
net_benjodoes anybody know how to find your city code for iWeather gdesklet, if you don't livein US????06:17
lunitikpepe, no harm in trying... chances are it'll work after...06:17
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NoUse!ubuntuguide06:17
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.06:17
depraveanyone have success installing scribus 1.3 on ubuntu hoary-hedgehog yet?06:17
Dreamer3lunitik: hardly :)06:17
lunitikDreamer3, kgood  :)06:17
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Dreamer3lunitik: different distros for different purposes :)06:17
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net_benjoiweather gdesklet? where is my city code located???????06:18
dasreichdreamer3: which is best if I don't know wtf im doing in linux but i want to play games?06:18
lunitikDreamer3, hehe... I never got that concept... I just customize one distro for everything  :)06:18
Madpilotnet_benjo: most of the world should be in the weather thing - search for your local airport06:18
lunitikdasreich, haha... SUSE comes with a lot of games... and is very easy to work with...06:18
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intelikeykelly_  Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Modem06:18
net_benjoMadpilot; thanks..i'll try that...06:18
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lineagepaulproteus|lapt, i made it! thanks man!06:18
dasreichno i mean like halflife2 i want to play halflife206:18
dasreichin linux06:19
lunitikdasreich, if you're really into gaming though... should just stick to Windows.... it is by far the best gaming platform...06:19
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Dreamer3dasreich: no idea, i do'nt play games06:19
lineagei am installing right now hl206:19
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Dreamer3lunitik: well, try, but some distros are closer to certain purposes than others...06:19
kelly_intelikey: thanks! does ubuntu support this?06:19
Dreamer3lunitik: as long as it's debian i'm in ;-)06:19
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lunitikDreamer3, ;)06:19
carthikdasreich, you can a) restart the x.org xserver by doing a ctrl+alt+backspace and see if that fixes it... else switch a prompt (ctrl+f1) and then do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  to reconfigure the xserver after noting down the values for the refresh rates etc for the monitor...06:19
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lunitikDreamer3, there is a certain convenience with starting closer to where you want to be  ;)06:20
bytefoogod i'm done06:20
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carthikdasreich, if you know what monitor it is, searching on google for the monitor name + ubuntu might be of some help too06:20
bytefoodumb :|06:20
dasreichcarthik: no keys actually work06:20
bytefooi spent all day wondering why my wireless didn't work after I fixed everything up06:20
lunitikDreamer3, damnsmall linux is a debian too?06:20
dasreichoh?06:20
bytefooand i just realized its because i'm using a different kernel :|06:20
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masterlokilunitik, GOD DAM IT I GOT IT06:20
net_benjoMadpilot: I found a code for toronto, but it doesnt work.......gdeskelt needs a different code06:20
dasreichthanks06:20
lunitikmasterloki, enlighten pepe then please  :)06:20
keithi need a lot of help wit hteh synaptic package finder06:21
keithanythign i try to install from it or sudo apt-get install returns the same error06:21
dasreichI actually tried to boot in ubuntu live and it didnt work06:21
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline06:21
masterlokilunitik, odd solution but I have sound now06:21
dasreichalso06:21
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keithi really need to install more stuff as i just reformatted but cant get around this problem06:21
lunitikmasterloki, I'm sure thats all pepe will care about also  :)06:21
masterlokipepe, I have it06:21
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masterlokipepe, do you read/speak spanish06:21
masterlokipepe, ??06:22
keithand y are the spammers so bad here now?06:22
lunitikmasterloki, guess he doesn't want it that bad...06:22
intelikeykelly_ no but you can go back to http://pastebin.com/349776 and save lines 53 - 88 and read them.06:22
lunitikmasterloki, use tab... he just left though06:22
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Madpilotnet_benjo: I don't use gdesklets, but the stock gnome weather thing (gWeather, I think) has lots and lots of Canadian weather stations06:22
lunitikmasterloki, just type like 3 chars... then hit tab key... and voila, it autocompletes  :)06:22
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masterlokilunitik, he is gone06:22
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intelikeykelly_ best advice go to ebay and find a good hardware/fax modem  and install it.06:22
masterlokilunitik, do you read spanish??06:23
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lineagearea51@mark:~/Desktop$ For language 'pt' several language ids were found:06:23
lineagept_BR - 0416; pt_PT - 0816;06:23
lineageInstead of using first in the list, suggest to define06:23
lineageyour LANG environment variable like this: LANG=pt_BR06:23
net_benjoMadpilot: thanks..i know aobut gweather...however iweather looks very very nice...and it does not use the same kind of input as gwweather06:23
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dasreichHey I figured it out, it actually freezes up like after 30 seconds with the mouse still available to work, i clicked on session and it crapped on me but i can still move the mouse around06:23
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lineagehow can i change this ?06:23
lineagearea51@mark:~/Desktop$ For language 'pt' several language ids were found:06:23
lineagept_BR - 0416; pt_PT - 0816;06:23
lineageInstead of using first in the list, suggest to define06:23
lineageyour LANG environment variable like this: LANG=pt_BR06:23
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masterlokiintelikey, do you read spanish??06:23
gpdwhile booting I get /dev/xxx not found... then i have to mount -a ???06:23
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intelikeyno06:23
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kelly_intelikey: i have installed ubuntu in laptop... so..it would be good if i can install this kind of modem...what you think? can it be done?06:24
dasreichyour guys robots are really annoying06:24
lunitikmasterloki: what you say?06:24
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masterlokiintelikey, Well I have to put an english version of this link06:24
masterlokihttp://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/687806:24
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Dr_Williswow - i see the spam bots are still about. :(06:24
pprince_girlfriend say!06:24
Dr_Williswhat was that umode setting again - i forget.06:24
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pprince_Dr_Willis: topic06:24
Dr_Willisthere we go. :P i need to learn how to auto-set that06:25
dasreichi think i found an error in ubuntu06:25
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intelikeyyes there are many good hardware modems that can be used in laptops. kelly_ linux can use any hardware modem06:25
frogtone25hey someone one named KiDXe is spamming on here06:25
frogtone25thought i would let you guys know06:25
Dr_Willisfrogtone25,  /umode +CE06:25
Dr_Willis:P06:25
lunitikhmm... it doesn't appear to be... anyone know how to get XChat to auto complete correctly? (ie, if I type 'd' it would return dasreich because he was the last username starting with d to say anything...06:25
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douglas I'm trying to compile ogre3d and I found a guide for ubuntu/kubuntu, but now I'm to the point where I'm running ./configure and it keeps giving me this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/ksmu1H85.html ... Can someone help, I don't know what they mean?06:26
naliothfrogtone25: see /topic06:26
lunitik)06:26
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intelikeyfrogtone25 read the topic please06:26
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Dr_Willisspam about the spam! :p06:26
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Dr_Williswhat is this Dalnet? heh heh.06:26
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lunitikDr_Willis: great idea  :)06:26
intelikeylol06:26
lunitikDr_Willis: looks like its getting close  :(06:26
kelly_intelikey: so you mean..this can be done? i can install this internal modem of my laptop?06:26
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lunitikDr_Willis: lilo is working on something to try to limit this crap though...06:26
dasreichhow do I boot ubuntu into graphical mode with a standard video driver and stuff?06:26
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paulproteus|laptlineage: It said you had permissions problems.06:27
lunitikdasreich: this is default action... if you mean 'how do I get a graphical installer' you don't06:27
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paulproteus|laptchown changes the ownership of files to you.06:27
dasreichno no no how do i go to safe mode06:27
dasreichor equivalent06:28
Dr_Willislunitik,  i wish him the best of luck. when on dalnet - i just ended up blocking all msgs from everyone sadly,.06:28
intelikeyi don't know what interface you plan to use but kelly_ yes,  a hardware modem that will plug into the computer you want to use it on will work.06:28
dasreichwhen im not loggeed in yet06:28
intelikeydasreich init 106:28
lunitikdasreich: hit ESC during boot as prompted... and choose 'failsafe'...06:28
brettCan someone tell me how I can change thepassword for Sudo?06:28
lunitikDr_Willis: +CE appears to be working for me...06:28
dasreichok i get the main gui screen right, and i click session to change it but when i change it to gui failsafe it freezes06:28
lunitikbrett: its your users password... change your users passwrod06:28
lunitikword06:28
intelikeydasreich init 1  <---- the linux safe mode persi   but that is not what you want....06:29
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Dr_Willislunitik,  yea - that does seem to work.. wonder if the server could just force that to be the default on everyone.06:29
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Madpilot!tell brett about sudo06:29
lunitikDr_Willis: it could... but I'm not sure how willing lilo is to do that...06:29
ksmurfis there a way to unistall the Nvidia driver?06:29
dasreichinit 1, whats the key combo for that?06:29
Carpe_LibertatemHow would I update GAIM through apt-get? sudo apt-get update gaim ?06:29
brettThanks. I'll look into it06:30
lunitikDr_Willis: politely 'approach' lilo about it... see what he says...06:30
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dasreichok wait what do i want06:30
lunitiklilo: hmm... you around?06:30
Dr_Willislol.06:30
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Dr_Willis:P06:30
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Dr_Willisjust get rid of /msg for 3 weeks  see if the bots vanish.06:30
paulproteus|laptCarpe_Libertatem: apt-get install gaim06:30
dabarhi.06:30
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dasreichfuck ubuntu im done with this bullshit06:31
lunitikDr_Willis: nah... but changing the default would be ok imo06:31
dabardasreich: true.06:31
kelly_intelikey: what can you advice how will i go with this...in installing SIS modem?06:31
frogtone25ok what does /umode  +CE and /topic mean anyways] 06:31
lunitikDr_Willis: anything else would reguire a server restart  :|06:31
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Dr_Willisdasreich,  you are saying X freezes?06:31
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dasreichit freezes but i can move the mouse around06:31
dabarfrogtone25: if you type those as your message tio the channel, the bots will stop.06:31
dasreichafter i login06:31
lunitikfrogtone25: the first is usermode... and turns off messages and ctcp's from unregistered users....06:31
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Dr_Willisinteresting.. what sort of machine?06:31
dasreichcustom06:32
dasreichp406:32
lunitikfrogtone25: /topic is a command that tells you... *g* what the channel topic is...06:32
ksmurfis there a way to unistall the Nvidia driver?06:32
intelikeykelly_ i think we have misunderstanding large06:32
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lunitikksmurf: you installed via Synaptic?06:32
frogtone25ok done06:32
dasreichit has dual monitors though but it detects one of them06:32
dasreichgeforce 680006:32
ksmurflunitik... No I'm in breezy and installed through nvidia06:32
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Dr_Willisdasreich,  sounds fairly standard.. I have identical video card. You using the default install drivers/X config for your video card?06:33
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dasreichyeah06:34
lunitikksmurf: then see if they have any intructions on removing :/06:34
Thread-xanyone knows how to fix this problem with ubuntu,, that makes yr keyboard repeat the letters and the mouse flickers. makiing the desktop unusable06:34
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dasreichit didnt prompt me for any driver installs06:34
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ksmurfK... next question .  Is nvidia glx working for breezy yet?06:34
Dr_Willisthere are the 'official' nvidia drivers that may help you out. plus you will get 3d acell and otehr stuff.06:34
keithanyone here? ive tried everything and this problem is still kicking my butt06:34
lunitikksmurf: you really should have waited for breezy to be released... using proprietary hardware on betaware is rarely a good idea...06:34
dabarkeith: we are here, yes.06:34
dabarall the people you see posting, are here.06:35
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dasreichsounds fine but how do i install them if i cant log in?06:35
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ksmurflunitik..... no one said I was smart06:35
bytefoohow can i burn an iso06:35
Dr_Willisboot to the console.06:35
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lunitikkeith: doubtful you've tried everything... what is your issue?06:35
keithwhy do ikeep getting spammed so badly with porn?06:35
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keithat least in this irc channel06:35
dabarDr_Willis: or just alt+ctrl+fNum06:35
lunitikksmurf: hahah  :)06:35
dasreichdamn06:35
Dr_Williscould try installing some alterantive window managers  and try changing to them, to see if its a gnome issue.06:35
keithlunitik, thanks for offering hte help06:35
keithheres my issue06:35
ksmurfkeith read the topic06:35
dasreichI don't know anything about linux06:35
lunitikkeith: /umode +CE06:35
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dabarkeith, that is fixable for the spam.06:36
keithk well heres my current issue06:36
lunitikdasreich: such things needn't be stated... its rather obvious  ;)06:36
Dr_Williswith linux - it pays to read, and learn, and learn how to learn. :P06:36
keithi go into synaptic and go to install something, anything. it started when i went to install sun-jre206:36
dasreichim not talking to you06:36
ksmurflunitik ..... Not bad for a noob huh....06:36
lunitikDr_Willis: mostly the last one... cuz then you don't have to read all the time  :)06:36
keithgimme just a sec ill get the exact error06:36
keiththat popsu p