[12:06] <Riddell> I'm surrounded by KDE hackers and not one of them knows a project which uses qmake
[12:07] <pef> :D
[12:13] <Riddell> pef: psi, qca-tls
[12:14] <pef> Riddell: thanks !
[12:18] <fromoze> OT- Little question
[12:18] <fromoze> Have the devs of Kubuntu ever think about Yast4Debian ?
[12:19] <Riddell> fromoze: I have thought about it.  havn't seen any working packages and I suspect it's not worth the effort
[12:22] <fromoze> ok :)
[12:22] <fromoze> thanks, I was curious about :D
[12:23] <Riddell> 90% of yast use is package installation and the porting of that means we might as well write our own package manager
[12:23] <Riddell> which is what we're doing
[01:32] <pef> I leave, good night !
[08:57] <hunger> Anything special to test for the next kubuntu release?
[10:28] <verwilst> Riddell: ping?
[10:29] <verwilst> tried with make, same prob :$
[10:29] <verwilst> Riddell: http://nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=47615
[10:44] <pef> hello
[11:15] <verwilst> i'm trying to build the latest snapshot now, hoping it'll be fine now
[11:20] <verwilst>     raise ("two targets named '%s' define rules!" % self.target)
[11:20] <verwilst> two targets named 'apidox' define rules!
[11:20] <verwilst> make: *** [debian/stamp-makefile-build]  Fout 1
[11:20] <verwilst> goddamned
[01:25] <opi> Hi
[01:26] <opi> anyone has Amu's mobile number? ;)
[01:26] <opi> or know why he's on IDLE all the time :)
[01:28] <tvo> no. who's Amu? ;)
[01:31] <opi> ;->
[01:31] <opi> You Should Know Him
[01:34] <tvo> ah, a quick google helped ;) still don't have his number though :)
[03:20] <tvo> Riddell: patch e-mail received?
[03:21] <Riddell> "Subject: KDE googlebar searchbar and about:konqueror patches"
[03:21] <Riddell> any idea if they'll apply to 3.4.2 as well?
[03:23] <tvo> not tested, but I doubt searchbar plugin and about:konqueror generation changed much
[03:23] <tvo> lemme check svn
[03:28] <tvo> meh, about:konq searchbar did change a bit this year, so it's risky
[03:28] <tvo> s/searchbar //
[03:30] <tvo> damn, no
[03:31] <tvo> entire function I changed was new in July or something.....
[03:31] <tvo> Riddell: I'd say no to both unless I check / hand-apply first
[03:32] <tvo> :(
[03:35] <Riddell> bah
[03:37] <tvo> I don't mind checking but not today - temperature's to high, need to do some outside things. after that it's poker time :)
[03:38] <tvo> memo / e-mail / PM / whatever me if you'd like it checked
[03:38] <tvo> i'll go now..
[03:38] <tvo> bye
[03:49] <pef> anyone has tested qt4-designer ? what's your opinion ?
[03:49] <pef> s/someone/anyone/
[03:51] <Riddell> pef: are you using the packages from breezy?
[03:53] <pef> Riddell: yes
[03:54] <Riddell> pef: work OK?
[03:58] <pef> Riddell: yes, nothing special, but what's going on with menu and code editor ? not finished ?
[04:01] <Riddell> menu and code editor?
[04:01] <Riddell> in qt4 designer?
[04:10] <pef> Riddell: yes
[04:19] <Riddell> pef: I think they removed any code editing stuff since it was only a very poor attempt at an IDE
[04:20] <pef> Riddell: and the menu editor part ?
[04:23] <Riddell> not sure what that is
[07:16] <m-fox> hi, I think the dependencies in kde 3.4.2 are wrong, because if I try to update, I get a lot of new applications and those cluttered kde-menus that should be prevented in kubuntu. 
[07:27] <pef> bye !
[07:56] <hunger> kopete always segfaults when quitting.
[07:56] <hunger> and the ksysguard applets are broken once again:_(
[08:03] <m-fox> hunger: there seems to be no developer here at the moment
[08:04] <hunger> m-fox: Damn... I'll end up having to write bugreports then;-)
[08:05] <hunger> Well... there should be some about those issues anyway. They are around for long enough;-)
[08:06] <m-fox> I suffer with you ;)
[08:19] <Riddell> m-fox: yethe dependencies are because they have changed for breezy but those changes havn't been backported to the backports
[08:25] <m-fox> Riddell: so breezy will install all kde applications by default? Or will that change later?
[08:26] <hunger> Riddell: How was the show? Or are you still abroad?
[08:26] <m-fox> sorry, I misunderstud
[08:27] <Riddell> m-fox: no, but the seeds have changed.  in hoary seeds said "we want kdebase, kdegraphics etc" and I changed kdebase and kdegraphics to bring in the programs for kubuntu
[08:27] <Riddell> in breezy I changed the seeds to "we want konsole, konqueror, kpdf, gwenview" and changed kdebase and kdegraphics back to their kde defaults
[08:27] <m-fox> Riddell: Will there be an update to the backports?
[08:27] <Riddell> hunger: which show?  I'm in spain this week
[08:28] <Riddell> m-fox: I doubt it
[08:28] <Riddell> m-fox: apt-get upgrade wouldn't bring in anything new
[08:28] <hunger> Riddell: akademy
[08:28] <Riddell> hunger: lots of talking
[08:28] <Riddell> I've had about zero time for anything besides yet
[08:28] <hunger> Riddell: I bet:-) Wish I would have been there.
[08:29] <hunger> Riddell: Maybe I can make it to the linux-congress in hamburg.
[08:29] <hunger> Riddell: I know that feeling... at one show I even forgot to eat;-)
[08:30] <m-fox> Riddell: I could go for that, but shouldn't I generally use dist-upgrade?
[08:34] <Riddell> m-fox: dist upgrade is always considered more risky
[08:35] <m-fox> Riddell: ok, thank you for the help
[08:39] <Riddell> hunger: that's a conference yes?
[08:40] <m-fox> a proposition for breezy: Would it be possible to have gtk2-engines-qt installed by default and have gtk2 use the kde-style and the kde-fonts by default (also for root because of sudo)?
[08:56] <Riddell> m-fox: I'd love for that but gtk-qt-engine crashes horribly with cairo gtk
[10:49] <Riddell> anyone coming to montreal?