=== mircea [n=mircea@82.78.221.135] has joined #kubuntu [12:04] any helpers online? === mircea [n=mircea@82.78.221.135] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : congrats to pef on membership | Kubuntu Official Help Channel | KDE 3.4.2 Packages are out: http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php | Adept alpha out - http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html | Nederlands #kubuntu-nl | Espaol #kubuntu-es | Deutsch #kubuntu-de | Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ | To prevent spam: /umode +CE === tenchi21 [n=1@c-67-177-148-13.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] hi [12:10] hello. [12:11] has anyone seen the Mac OS x86 thing === Vindevogel [n=Yves@d5152B1F3.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] hi all [12:12] I have a question on Kubuntu and Debian unstable [12:12] I wanted to download j2sdk from tux.org [12:12] Seems it needs libc6 [12:12] The version shipped with kubuntu is lower [12:12] can i simply take the version from debian testing ? === torz [n=torum@p2-max1.qtn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] that one is just one version higher 2.3.2.21 instead of 2.3.2.20 [12:14] hmm hi, I have some weird problems with my system fonts. I did "apt-get install msttcorefonts" to get Windows fonts but in return *all* my fonts look very jaggy (as though it has no anti aliasing) [12:15] torz: i have similar problem with the normal fonts, seems like they are jaggy when the font size is lower than 12 [12:15] use the "plastik" theme for a second, it puts them on 12 and all looks fine again [12:16] Anybody alive here caring to answer my question on Debian ? [12:17] Vindevogel: yep Plastik is what I usually use, 12 eh [12:17] I'll give it a shot [12:17] I like size 11s though! === antoniocristiane [n=antonioc@200.103.132.54] has joined #kubuntu === antoniocristiane [n=antonioc@200.103.132.54] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:18] hmmm nope, even 12 looks bad === Glin|Jol [n=bobo@cpe-66-108-244-133.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:19] don't do it through the font ... go into themes and chose plastik there so that it changes everything [12:19] might want to use keramik for a second first [12:19] okie dokie [12:19] shit, it tries to use Arial as a default font === evanmccone [n=evanmcco@141.Red-81-36-202.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === redguy [n=mati@ahx195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === _JeffAMcGee [n=jeff@host-66-205-125-240.classicnet.net] has joined #kubuntu === evanmccone [n=evanmcco@141.Red-81-36-202.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:26] torz: I'm also playing with the anti-aliasing properties. That does not help much. === dulcet [n=dulcet@64.212.140.5] has joined #kubuntu === pax [n=pax@pdpc/supporter/student/pax] has joined #kubuntu === brk3 [n=brk3@159-134-221-214.as1.rtd.sligo.eircom.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:33] are there any free disk partition programs for windows? the ubuntu installer isnt working.. === stoeptegel [n=Martijn_@roxx.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu [12:34] brk3: qtparted [12:34] on windows? [12:35] heh, sorry === apokryphos is only really aware of PartitionMagic [12:35] ubuntu really needs to get its installer into shape [12:35] for such a friendly distro its a joke [12:36] what's wrong? [12:36] Agreed [12:36] im no newbie like and even its scaring me === EasterSunshine [n=EasterSu@pool-141-155-9-16.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:36] pax: it's pretty bad compared to SuSE, Mandriva, Fedora one [12:36] i cant resize my main partition [12:37] when i try to change the size and press enter it just does nothing [12:37] can someone please tell me what service/thing should i restart to make the changes in /etc/locale.alias to work ? or i have to restart X ? [12:38] i'am having problems with reading acces in some partitions, it give me: mount: could not find /dev/sbd5 in /ect/fstab/ or /etc/mtab. Plz don't tell me i've destroyed my data... [12:44] whats the easiest way to create a partition === _christophe [n=christop@LAubervilliers-151-13-57-23.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === evanmccone is now known as Mc|eVa [12:54] how stable is breezy for the moment ? === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-25-29.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] at them moment, it's pretty stable === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-25-29.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:56] but has no installer [12:56] might as well not have :( [12:56] no, but i have a running hoary, when i apt-get upgrade, is everything going to work in KDE ? I mean the basics [01:00] Vindevogel: pretty much, it should, yes. [01:00] when is the release of breezy: beginning of octobre or end ? [01:01] Vindevogel: apt-get dist-upgrade, of course, you should use [01:01] 16th IIRC [01:01] !breezyschedule [01:01] from memory, breezyschedule is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule === Luen [n=luen@81-203-33-46.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:01] nope, 13th [01:01] hi [01:02] any clue about burning mdf isos under linux? [01:02] ok, 1.5 months from release on 6, so that's 25% left. A bit risky .... I am about to find out. [01:02] how the fuck am i gonna partition my disk!! [01:02] brk3: get Knoppix or something [01:02] apokryphos: can you partition from a live cd? [01:02] I was quite happy with the server install of kubuntu and then add the rest manually [01:02] brk3: of course [01:02] very clean kde this way [01:03] apokryphos: does knoppix come with qtparted? [01:03] brk3: it comes with a partition manager, for sure, yes. [01:03] see you guys later :-)) [01:03] sexy [01:03] thanks [01:03] seems fairly standard; makes it more odd that [k] ubuntu live doesn't have one [01:04] apokryphos: kubuntu really needs to get moving on that === _tiago [n=tiago@103.105.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === stoeptegel [n=Martijn_@roxx.demon.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Ik] [01:05] Riddell: what settings does kdesu use for i.e. style/font-size in apps? [01:06] I figure if sudo is you with root priveleges it should keep the same style/fonts etc for running apps with kdesu === kyaneos [n=kyaneos@227.Red-83-35-28.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === BlankB [n=blank@ppp-67-67-193-166.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _wong [n=wong@60.48.73.186] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === _derek__ [n=derek@pcp0011385359pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kyaneos [n=kyaneos@227.Red-83-35-28.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mr-Petah [n=mrpetah@33.Red-80-33-211.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mr-Petah [n=mrpetah@33.Red-80-33-211.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:34] hi [01:34] i have a problem [01:34] KDE applets disappears from kicker in every new session [01:35] and the top menu, Mac OS style, is aligned at the right === kyaneos [n=kyaneos@227.Red-83-35-28.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === fromoze is now known as fromoze_away [01:45] has somebody installed Kubuntu in server-expert mode?? === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33] has joined #kubuntu === Pandziura [n=root@217.129.128.30] has joined #kubuntu === Mc|eVa [n=evanmcco@141.Red-81-36-202.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === nikkia [n=nikkia@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:31b3] has joined #kubuntu === rubiojr [n=rubiojr@62.101.184.80] has joined #kubuntu === Luen [n=luen@81-203-33-46.user.ono.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Cylla [n=dulcet@64.212.140.5] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] I have what I hope is a really easy question. How do I start firefox? === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-243-107.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === VeloxS [n=xorlev@wsu195-111.ctelco.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] it seems silly, but I checked to make sure it was installed and it is.. just can't seem to find how to start it or even where it is. [02:11] when I try to sudo, I get the following error: postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory [02:11] basically, I have no way of gaining root access to my computer (since I cant sudo passwd in the first place)... [02:11] any clue? === fatejudger [n=fatejudg@c-67-169-87-144.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] what is the best way to play quicktime movies in Kubuntu? [02:15] anyone else get a crash in kaffeine on taking a screen shot [02:17] no [02:17] but there is a kaffeine fix [02:17] because it crashes for random reasons [02:17] some .deb package [02:17] I don't know how they got it [02:18] some bot on here knows it === _derek__ is now known as _derek === ToniEisner [n=tonieisn@83-64-120-130.lehen.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === jpowers [n=jpowers@208-59-170-43.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === _derek [n=derek@pcp0011385359pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === wincide [n=trax@224.Red-81-34-220.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kornbluth.freenode.net === redguy [n=mati@ahx195.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === nikkia [n=nikkia@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:31b3] has joined #kubuntu === cartel_ is now known as jmg [02:57] can some one pls help me with the following error? [02:57] checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp [02:57] configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check [02:58] it appears every time i try to compile sth [03:00] do you have build-essential installed? [03:01] build-essential? [03:02] the metapackage 'build-essential' [03:02] sec pls [03:02] dpkg -l build-essential [03:02] err, don't paste that output === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:02] but if you don't have it installed, install it [03:04] ok currently installing --> "apt-get install build-essential" [03:04] thank you === BlankB [n=BlankB@ppp-67-67-193-166.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:07] working fine [03:08] just got the next one [03:08] error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! [03:08] anybody? :P === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === troglodyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:19] !mono [03:19] Bugger all, i dunno, BlankB === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-245-164.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === senaroth [n=andrew@pcp09674382pcs.bayville.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === VeloxS is now known as Xorlev === frank [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:29] are their any working apt repositories for mono develop for kubuntu 5.04 Hoary? [03:29] With a relatively modern version. [03:31] backports has 1.1.7 [03:32] is this the proper url for backports? http://backports.ubuntuforums.org [03:33] you can use deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted [03:34] frank: thank you. I was getting confused. [03:35] Right after you said that I went to the backprots.ubuntuforums.org and it told me to use one of the mirrors. [03:35] ok === frank is now known as frank23 === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === FireEgl [i=Atlantic@Atlantica.US] has joined #Kubuntu === JeffAMcGee [n=jeff@host-66-205-125-240.classicnet.net] has joined #kubuntu === furic [n=Furic@c211-30-113-130.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.201] has joined #kubuntu [04:03] Why is it that a 12pt font looks like a 18pt font on my system? is there any global way to fix the fonts to be compairable to other os's, im on hoary. [04:06] The weird thing is, yesterday when i turned my pc on the fonts where fine for some reason, i had all the system fonts set to things like 7pt to counter the effect so everything was allmost unreadable when it was rendered right, but not, after reboot, its back to its crappyness again... === sirlordt [n=sirlordt@200.109.128.73] has joined #kubuntu === mjm115 [n=mjm115@adsl-68-76-120-207.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === wirwzd [n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === james [n=james@c-67-177-148-13.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:25] how do i mount a windows ntfs partition? [04:27] i just want read access not write access [04:29] mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 [04:29] or something like that === ToniEisner [n=tonieisn@83-64-120-130.lehen.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] depends on where the drives are. and where you want it mounted. [04:30] if in kde i right click on the drive and select mount i get an error [04:30] its hdb1 [04:31] does it say "can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab" ? [04:31] yes [04:32] mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in etc/fstab or /etc/mtab [04:32] Im not sure if there is anything for adding entries to the fstab other than a text editor. [04:33] Easiest way if you only want to do it now would be: [04:33] mkdir /tmp/mountpoint ; sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /tmp/mountpoint [04:34] If you want it to mount every time you boot, you would have to modify the /etc/fstab [04:34] ok did that get another error [04:34] what was it? [04:35] could not enter folder /tmp/mountpoint === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.33] has joined #kubuntu [04:36] just a sec. [04:38] k [04:39] hmm...I can't duplicate that. [04:40] what does: dmesg | tail [04:40] anything useful in there? [04:41] also see if this returns anything: grep "hdb1" /etc/fstab [04:41] dmesg does 12 lines [04:41] grep does nothing [04:41] any of them say anything about ntfs ? [04:42] NTFS driver 2.1.22 [Flags: R/O MODULE] . [04:42] NTFS volume version 3.1. === leus [n=leus@201.255.58.114] has joined #kubuntu [04:43] when do you get the could not enter folder message? [04:43] when i try to open the drive [04:43] ahh. [04:43] To install rpm packages on Debian systems, Do I have to use alien -i? [04:44] try this: sudo ls -al /tmp/mountpoint/ [04:44] To install rpm packages on Debian systems, Do I have to use alien -i? [04:45] To install rpm packages on kubuntu, Do I have to use alien -i? [04:45] sudo -al /tmp/mountpoint/ [04:45] sudo: please use single character options [04:45] sudo: illegal option `-al' [04:45] usage: sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k | -l | -v [04:45] usage: sudo [-HPSb] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [04:45] { -e file [...] | -i | -s | } [04:45] sorry about that. I meant: sudo ls -al /tmp/mountpoint [04:45] you only need to paste the actual error next time. [04:46] Hi, Could somebody help me? [04:46] To install rpm packages on kubuntu, Do I have to use alien -i? [04:46] ok that lists the contents of my drive [04:46] leus: to convert to a debian package do: alien -d [04:47] leus: to install that package do: alien -i [04:47] BlankB: but I am using kubuntu [04:47] BlankB: Is it the same? [04:47] leus: yes. kubuntu is a cousin of debian. [04:48] BlankB: Thank you very much. [04:48] james: Im not sure how to run konqueror as root...lemme look it up. [04:53] kdesu konqueror /tmp/mountpoint/ [04:53] 8-( === lawrence [n=lawrence@64.7.225.205] has joined #kubuntu === slicslak [n=slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === gdarel [n=gdarel@c-24-16-155-196.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:04] checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! [05:04] checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! [05:04] Having issues compiling only some sources... getting this [05:04] above ops [05:11] x-dev [05:11] you need some X devel package... [05:11] and perhaps libx11-dev === lascar [n=lascar@pcp0011284583pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:34] i'm trying to get my printer to print [05:34] it worked a few days before [05:34] i got a test page printed and all [05:34] and now whenever i send a job to it, it processes indefinitely [05:35] any takers? [05:35] is it usb or what? [05:37] usb indeed [05:37] and that's all jobs, including test pages [05:38] does it show up when you do: lsusb [05:40] yeah [05:40] Do you have Utilities -> Printing Manager open? [05:41] i do now [05:41] are there any jobs under the jobs tab for that printer? [05:41] none [05:42] select that printer then click the printer drop down at the top and check start/stop printer. [05:42] is stop or start hilighted? [05:42] the printer is idle and accepting jobs === _trevor is now known as jesusfish [05:43] under instances can you send it a test page? [05:44] crimsun: you ever get the amarok packages to work? === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.201] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] sorry about the delay [05:48] i get the "Test page successfully sent to printer HP PSC 1350." dialog [05:48] but no printout [05:50] under properties : interface what does it say for the uri? [05:52] usb:/dev/usb/lp0 [05:55] try this: sudo sh -c 'echo test >/dev/usb/lp0' [05:55] with the single quote? [05:56] it should work with either single or double quotes. [05:56] i'm getting denied [05:57] permission denied? [05:57] nevermind [05:57] what's supposed to happen? [05:57] something should do something on the printer. [05:58] Any flicker lights or anything. [05:58] nothing [05:58] Odd. 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["Leaving"] === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.101] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] !repositories [06:43] repositories is, like, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 [06:46] You can use synaptic if you have it, or just sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list === emihatov [n=emihatov@202.59.28.28] has joined #kubuntu === emihatov [n=emihatov@202.59.28.28] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === emihatov [n=emihatov@202.59.28.28] has joined #kubuntu === emihatov is now known as Bags [06:56] Hello again, boys and girls... [06:57] Having trouble with VNC [06:57] Any client trying to view my Kubuntu VNC server gets an error just a fraction of a second after login. [06:58] does anyone here use KDevelop? [06:59] I'm having a little trouble with it [06:59] and no one will answer in the kdevelop irc channel [07:10] I used to. === Cem_ [n=cem0r@dsl-084-060-169-136.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:11] well that doesn't really help [07:11] this thing has the hardest time tabbing correctly [07:11] dev-c++ seems to be much better than kdevelop [07:11] but I can't use dev-c++ on linux [07:11] of course all of the good software is on windows... [07:11] I moved to gvim [07:12] gvim? [07:12] graphical vi improved, basically vi === keith [n=keith@KEITHC.RES.WPI.NET] has joined #kubuntu [07:13] how do i add hoary-extras to the repositories? [07:13] !repositories [07:13] hmm... repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 === michael [n=michael@p549CD18F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === pentax [n=pentax@216-155-71-232.bk1-dsl.surnet.cl] has joined #kubuntu [07:16] quien tiene repositorios para instalr el mozilla y el mplayer? [07:18] JeffAMcGee: does that come with Kubuntu or do I have to compile it? [07:21] there's a good chance you already have it installed [07:21] but, it has a steep learning curve [07:23] gvim and kvim are both in main (not universe) [07:27] yeah, I just got it [07:27] I don't want to take forever learning this thing [07:27] not only that it has a lag [07:27] between me typing [07:27] and the characters appearing on the screen [07:28] why can't I find something like Dev-C++ on linux? [07:28] you might do better to just to fiddle with kdevelop's indentation settings [07:28] that thing is terrible [07:28] it doesn't keep settings at all [07:28] like [07:28] sometimes it writes the settings to the config file [07:28] and sometimes it doesn't [07:28] it all depends on how I implement the changes [07:28] it's really stupid [07:28] like [07:28] the menus work [07:28] but the actual config dialog doesn't [07:29] not only that, I can't compile things in Kdevelop unless I make a project [07:29] If memory serves, visual studio is the same way [07:30] any non-trivial program may as well be in a project === troglodyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:36] well this is silly [07:36] I can't even add files to a project [07:36] nor does it auto indent when I create curly braces === grimse [n=grimse@p5481D7A7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:38] It looks like there's a version of dev-C++ for linux: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dev-cpp/ [07:38] but you have to compile it yourself [07:41] in kdevelop, check settings -> Configure Editor... -> indentation [07:41] what is indentation mode set to? 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Is it useable ? === ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-141-207.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu === PurpleMotion [n=jay@cpe-24-26-139-222.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu === vegiVamp [n=demeersm@unimatrix.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu === net008 [n=net008@202.169.226.165] has joined #kubuntu === hater2win [n=hater2wi@adsl-69-152-226-59.dsl.snantx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kyaneos [n=kyaneos@173.Red-83-40-132.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu === emihatov [n=emihatov@202.59.28.28] has joined #kubuntu === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu === wincide [n=trax@224.Red-81-34-220.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === flo [n=flo@dsl-084-059-055-144.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-36-25.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Kyaneos [n=kyaneos@173.Red-83-40-132.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Kaiser@ppp217-130.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === Bags [n=emihatov@202.59.28.28] has joined #kubuntu === pointwood [n=pointwoo@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu === gnumdk [n=gnumdk@195.221.59.29] has joined #kubuntu === tanghus [n=tol@62.79.95.37.adsl.noe.tiscali.dk] has joined #kubuntu === fromoze_away is now known as fromoze === Chameleon22 [n=Blah@60-240-233-7-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === smux [n=smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #kubuntu === ilba7r [n=ilba7r@d141-64-4.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === jatos [n=jamie@82-34-93-26.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:45] hi [11:45] anyoner ever tryed a gui besides gnoem or kde? [11:46] you mean window manager [11:46] yeah [11:46] search on google for window managers for linux there are quite a few [11:46] depend on your needs [11:46] kicker top menu is moved on KDE, has somebody the same problem?? [11:46] please [11:46] I just wondering [11:47] I decided to try fluxbox and xfce [11:47] and I have to say... fluxbox in my opinion sucks [11:47] http://xwinman.org/ [11:47] here you will find a list of the most common ones [11:48] mm the one compiled in ubuntu is a little bit slow [11:48] but also depend what you want do you want a fast window manager [11:48] which one did you compile in ubuntu [11:48] or an attractive one [11:48] i did not compile any [11:48] i am just a user like you [11:49] oh btw, it would very easy to argue that the window manager is actually x-free and the gui is what most people call the window manager [11:50] sorry i am not that knowledgable as i said i am just a user :) [11:50] kk [11:50] no worrys [11:50] if you like fast and eye candy try enlightenment [11:50] will do [11:50] there is a thread on it in ubuntu forums with some screen shots [11:52] kk === flo [n=flo@i577B0AEC.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:53] one thing, I don't about youi, but I cannot understand the mentality that goes with simplest GUI possible.... [11:53] sorry did not understand exactly what you mean [11:53] what are you looking for ? [11:54] to me it seems a lot of people pick the gui that does the least..... [11:54] for me its different flavours [11:54] if i want to do computation and need my pc to be as fast as possible i run either openbox or icewm [11:54] kk [11:54] if i want eligence i run gnome or enlightenment === boga [n=boga@CPE0011095f2041-CM00e06f240dd8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:55] actually I find xfce to quite eligent with no mroe bloat than fluxbox... [11:55] where can I grab deb packages for beta2 of OpenOffice.org? [11:55] erm [11:56] openoffice.org? [11:56] thats you best bet === nikkia [n=nikkia@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:31b3] has joined #kubuntu [11:56] do not recommend to install from binary though so try to avoid that [11:56] or if you do use checkinstall instead of make install === jatos [n=jamie@82-34-93-26.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:57] hello again [11:57] jatos i liked flux box for its responivnece but hated how long it took for it to load [11:57] disconnectec by accident [11:57] welcome back [11:57] if you want really fast window manager you have to try openbox [11:58] I like XFCE its got all the advantages of fluxbox as far I cab, plus i [11:58] it easier to use [11:58] sorry i hated it [11:58] ok [11:58] gnome is much more elegent and openbox much faster [11:59] by the way in gnome i run openbox instead of metacity which make gnome fly too [11:59] metacity?/ [11:59] thats the default gnome window manager [11:59] as u know gnome is a desktop environment and metacity is its window manager [12:00] actually i didn't know that but now I do [12:01] i guess you use rox-filer with xfce [12:01] does it support emblem [12:01] right now I completely confised, rox-filer? [12:02] thats the file manager [12:02] no I use knoqueror with it [12:02] ok [12:03] so why not use kde with konqueror than [12:03] currently I have four guis on this pc, gnome, kde, fluxbox and xfce [12:04] because I like the XFCE's interface but prefer KDE's file manger [12:04] and you do not like nautilus (gnome file manager)? [12:04] its the best i used so far [12:05] I am not too kean on it, i think konqueror is more powerful [12:05] i agree its a matter of taste [12:06] yep, I have to say I find the extra features of konqueror very handy indeed [12:06] like I never managed to use FTP in konqueror [12:06] *nautilis [12:06] excuse my spelling [12:06] oh thats easy [12:06] i use it all the time === keng48 [n=keng48@pool-141-151-118-28.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] yet i remember i set it up from the gnome panel though [12:07] oh, how do you get at FTP in nautilus though [12:07] places>connect to server and you are set [12:07] then from nautilus i just select from the tree view the mounted ftp volume [12:08] ah [12:08] is there any of getting an address bar on nautilus? === Kyaneos [n=kyaneos@173.Red-83-40-132.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:08] the address bar is something I like about konqueror I may add [12:08] are you using breezy [12:08] no, hoary [12:08] ok [12:08] open prefrences [12:09] and check the location bar [12:09] kk [12:09] wheres location bar? [12:09] thats under behavious also select browser [12:10] will make nautilus look exactly like konquer [12:10] theres no such option in my nautilus [12:10] ok click edit [12:11] then prefrences [12:11] yah [12:11] on the top bar select behavior [12:11] so third option is always open in browser windows [12:12] ah [12:12] you have the location bar now [12:12] sorry I was looking for an option that actually said "location bar" === PurpleMotion [n=jay@cpe-24-26-139-222.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #Kubuntu [12:12] in breezy there is one [12:13] by the way you can also press ctrl L to activate the location bar [12:13] kk [12:13] I decided not to upgrade to breezy till breezy is current [12:14] now for the neat stuf check the side panel>emblem [12:14] and drag one to one of your files and you will know why i like nautilus [12:14] fatos wise decision [12:14] sorry jatos [12:16] kk ilba7r [12:16] one thing, if I open a file from FTP in nautilus I can't change it [12:17] what do you mean explain in more detail [12:17] do yo mean renaming it? [12:17] right I open a php file, its comes up in gedit but make or save changes [12:18] I can edit though it its opened using KDE programs [12:18] check the permisions of the file [12:18] 755 [12:18] oh so you should be able to read write execute [12:19] strange [12:19] it can edited if I open in kate, it just appears as though gedit can edit files on FTP [12:19] ah ok [12:19] there is an option in nautilus [12:19] its a precaution aganist unwanted script execution [12:19]