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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:rob^] : Why is there no topic here?
rob^oh08:37
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daebHelo10:12
daeb!=10:12
daebllmanulll hi !10:13
daebnobody r10:14
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klepasanyone home?10:44
daebMe10:45
daeb:)10:45
daeb...10:45
daebklepas ?10:45
klepasyep10:45
klepasHow's it going?10:45
daebfine.. and u ?10:46
daebliltle streesy10:46
daeb:)10:46
klepaslittle streesy will ease down for me now10:46
klepasstress would describe my last week and a half :-)10:47
daebwould say stress...10:47
daeb:)10:47
daebit's my turn this week10:47
daeb:x10:47
klepasdo you know what's happened to the ubuntu art community?10:48
daebCompletly desintegrated by Pluto's Alien i think...10:48
daebI'm looking for them10:48
daebdisapeared ?10:48
daebpff10:48
daebneed some words or infos i can only fiund here10:49
klepasI'm trying to join them...10:49
daebbut no one answer...10:49
daebkeep on trying...10:49
daeb:)10:49
klepashehe10:49
daebmmake somth like 2 days i try10:49
daeb:)10:49
klepasI'll ask over the mailing list or something10:49
daebi contacted lllmanulll he is smtime here10:49
klepasI want to give the splash screen go :-)10:50
klepasfor breezy10:51
klepasgot a site or somesuch?10:52
daeberf10:53
daebsplash screen...10:53
daebit's fashoin10:53
daebit's fashion10:53
daeb:)10:53
klepasyep10:53
klepasgot a page of them10:53
daebDIdi you look too the Ubuntu community pages ?10:54
klepashttp://wombat.nuxified.com/work10:54
klepasas in the wiki - yep10:54
daebU know there is a lot of work for icons or wallpapers too...10:54
daebok10:54
klepaswallpapers and splash screens are my favourite10:54
daeband did you go to the launchpad for subscription ?10:54
daebkie10:54
daebicons suxx ? lol10:54
daebvery nice banneer :)10:55
klepasyep10:55
daebcompliments10:55
klepashave been to launchpad10:55
klepasthanks10:55
daebwanna see mine ?10:55
klepassure :-)10:55
daebso wait for mails llisted10:55
daebGimp splash is very beautiful10:56
daebgood concepts !!!10:56
daebwhat is AMAROK ?10:56
daebhttp://www.angelfire.com/cantina/555/imgs/wallpaper/wallpaper_fresh_linux.jpg10:57
klepasamarok is the flashiest media player10:57
daebhttp://www.angelfire.com/cantina/555/imgs/wallpaper/xenoscape_l.jpg10:57
daebAhh i thought it was a media Os10:57
klepasfor KDE10:57
daeb:(10:57
daebOkie i see10:57
klepasbut demands a lot of cpu10:57
klepasI don't use it m'self10:57
daebi'm dl by bittorent the last ubuntu.. it's very long pff10:58
klepashowever cool for showing off10:58
daebokie see10:58
klepascool wallpapers10:58
daebyou liie ? It's very old anyway10:59
daebi'vce got some better but published for the moment10:59
klepasI liked the xenoscape one11:00
daebthx11:00
daebtake take take :)11:00
daeband distributed11:00
klepasI've got dinner11:00
daeband distribute !11:00
klepaslol11:00
klepas:-)11:00
daebeat well :)11:00
klepasyup11:00
klepascheers11:00
klepas:-)11:00
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daebbone app'11:00
daeb:)11:00
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ograhey volvoguy 03:29
volvoguyhowdy.03:29
volvoguywhat's up?03:30
ograyou had a question the other day ? 03:33
volvoguyoh yeah. i just couldn't remember if you were a Canonical person or not. 03:34
ograi am...03:34
volvoguyour lack of server is getting pretty silly at this point. 03:34
volvoguythe last i heard, jeff waugh was looking into the art.gnome.org code for us to use. that was at least a few weeks ago. 03:35
ograi cant do much about that.. you must contact elmo... but he's very busy and not very responsive currently...03:36
volvoguyhmm... i don't even know that name yet. 03:36
ograwho cared for the server stuff until now ? 03:36
ograhmm... AndyFitz promised me a fresh icon tarball.... nothing in my mail yet03:37
volvoguynobody. that's kinda the problem. about a month ago, jane siber said our hardware was ready and asked what we wanted on it. we (andy and i) asked for the art.gnome.org code and CVS/subversion. i haven't heard anything since. 03:38
volvoguyandy's on yahoo messenger right now if you want to bug him. :o)03:38
ograhmm, if the HW is ready, its rather a hno73 issue...03:38
volvoguyi'll try jane one more time since she seems to be my point of contact. maybe she can poke somebody into getting things done. 03:40
ograi'm just trying to get hno over here03:40
volvoguywe were hoping to have our own art site up and running and be able to pick and choose artwork to promote for breezy. now we're less than a month away from breezy's deadline and the icons are the only thing we have to work with. :-\03:41
ograhe's on the phone... 03:41
ograi think he'll com here soon..03:41
volvoguyok. i can hang out a few more minutes. just took a bunch of pain meds, so i'll be asleep soon. 03:42
ograoki03:42
volvoguywant me to ask andrew about a fresh icon tarball? 03:43
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ograhi hno73 03:43
volvoguyhowdy hno73!03:43
ograthe art team has some questions about their server :)03:43
ograthanks for coming btw03:44
volvoguyeven a status report would be nice. :)03:44
ogravolvoguy, i can ask Andy myself, no need to rush...03:44
volvoguyogra, ok. 03:44
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volvoguyhno73, so you know what's going on... Jane Siber told me a few weeks ago that our hardware was ready. The last I heard, Jeff W. was looking into using the art.gnome.org website as a starting point for ours (so apache, database, maybe php), and we're also in need of a versioning system. andrew and jeff know more about that than i do though. 03:47
volvoguyhno73, no rush. i'll be around for a few minutes. :) thanks. 03:47
volvoguyogra, if i fall asleep, you know as much as i do now. :) andrew probably has a bit more insight as well. 03:48
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volvoguyoh thank you. i have toothpicks propping my eyelids open. :)03:54
hno73uhm, do you guys read the art mailing list? ;)03:54
volvoguyyep.03:54
hno73I have a server set up and the site is nearly done. see: http://69.60.114.112/03:54
hno73It's a different server from the one Jane and Jeff were talking about03:55
hno73This one is not in our own data centre03:55
ograbut looks great already03:56
volvoguycool. i don't remember any emails about it, but i'm glad to see it's getting done!03:56
hno73It's an external box, which means we can be a bit more relaxed about security03:56
hno73My plan is to have it completely done and launched by Friday03:57
volvoguysounds good. i don't know if the art.gnome.org guys have any kind of admin interface, but andrew, myself and probably ogra should probably have some kinda access to it. 03:58
volvoguyexcellent!03:58
hno73I have one show-stopping problem though. See: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/artweb-list/2005-August/msg00012.html03:58
hno73volvoguy: yeah, email me and I'll give you access03:59
volvoguyhno73, ok. will do. 03:59
hno73any MySQL/PHP experts here? :)03:59
hno73I can give you guys accounts on the server itself to, for putting up static pages or whatever04:00
AndyFitzhno73,  not an expert .  but I can grok a good drupal  lol04:01
volvoguysome PHP. i'm not conscious enough to look at the source right now though. (up all night and just took pain meds). i'll be back home and awake in 6-8 hour.04:01
hno73OK, so basically the site works for uploading  now, just not for 'promoting' stuff to be visible on the site04:02
hno73First one to figure it out gets a star :)04:03
volvoguydo you mean automatically promoting it, or can't you get them to display at all (manually)?04:03
hno73volvoguy: I cant get it to display at all ATM04:04
volvoguyok04:04
hno73It's probably trivial though ...04:04
hno73once I find it04:05
volvoguyi'll be having dinner with a mysql/php expert before friday, so when i have access to it i'll pick his brain a bit. :)04:06
hno73just register on the site and I'll make you admin so you can play around04:06
volvoguyok04:06
hno73hopefully the gnome art people will just answer my post04:06
hno73that would be the easiest :)04:07
volvoguyi'm registered. 04:07
volvoguyhave you tried their IRC channel? 04:07
volvoguythey seemed to be pleased that we wanted to use some of their stuff. 04:07
hno73thanks, I'll try that04:07
hno73OK, I've promoted you04:08
volvoguyi think they are #gnome-art on irc.gnome.org04:08
volvoguycool.04:08
AndyFitzirc.gimp.org04:08
hno73got to URL/admin04:08
volvoguyahh. thanks AndyFitz. 04:08
hno73AndyFitz: will you register as well while we're at it?04:09
hno73oh, I see the skin is broken on the admin pages04:11
volvoguyok. i need to go before i start drooling on the keyboard. thanks for stopping by hno73, it's much appreciated! i'll be back to chat in a few hours. 04:11
hno73volvoguy: ok, np04:11
volvoguylater everyone!04:12
AndyFitzhno73,  sure thing04:17
daebHi ppl04:48
daebSmbdy here ?04:48
daeblllmanulll ?04:48
lllmanulllYep04:48
lllmanulllI'm here04:48
daebCOmmentr sa roule ?04:49
daebHi how r u ?04:49
daebDrawing ?04:49
daebAndyFitz can i help for Ub. Icons ?04:49
lllmanulllHuh04:49
lllmanulllCoding :)04:49
daebErf... Summer of code again..04:50
lllmanulllStruggling with that autoconf/automake mystery04:50
lllmanulllBy the way, about icons, I'd love to help on applications icons04:50
daebAutoconf ? Automake ? Tryu another langage i don't speak chinese... I only Know Automount ;)04:50
daeb:)04:50
daeblol04:50
lllmanulllWhich doesn't seem to appear on the roadmap page04:50
lllmanulllHehe, don't laugh, I do speak Chinese :-p04:50
daebYTup everybody -> http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/555/imgs/draw/totonixtx.jpg04:50
daeblllmanulll it's purpose is to compile ?04:52
daebi need AndyFitz04:52
daebi need an example of his icon set for ubuntu to look if i can help04:53
lllmanullldaeb, Yes, automatically create Makefiles and configure scripts so that everything goes well for compiling, on several kinds of systems04:53
daebi'm volunteer to draw the System/peripheral/Hardware set of icons04:53
daeb:)04:53
daebjust as install.exe...04:53
daeb:)04:53
lllmanullldaeb, Don't know where to find that, but you can install Ubuntu if you haven't, and download the humility package04:53
daebor setup04:53
lllmanulllWell that's for installing programs, this is more general, including compilation04:54
daebi see04:54
daeb./make conf04:55
daeb./ocnfigure04:55
daeboops04:55
daeb:)04:55
lllmanulllNearly :)04:55
daebi have to install the new ubuntu... I tried some month ago the Hoary... 404:56
daebNow i'm DL the latest.04:56
daebbut bittorrent su**04:56
daebtransfert rate = some bananas...04:56
lllmanulllYou can download it from the main servers ?04:57
lllmanulllNo need for bittorrent, if it doesn't work04:57
daebno i tought it could be great by bttorr04:57
lllmanulllYou can try Breezy, Colony 304:57
daebwoaw ?04:57
daebA new 104:57
daebor a beta 104:57
daeb?04:57
daebwhere can i find THE latest ?04:57
lllmanulllHmm04:58
lllmanulllWell04:58
lllmanulllIf you want a very stable system04:58
lllmanulllIt's better to install Hoary04:58
lllmanulllWhich is version 5.0404:58
daebWhat's the best way for DL THE latest most - stable - then ?04:59
daebHoary... yep, 5.0404:59
lllmanulllBut if you want newer stuff, and don't care to see a few things broken somtimes, Breezy is great04:59
daebI need04:59
daebBreezy ?04:59
daebwhat's the version ? pre-alpha ? lol ?04:59
daebI want breezy too04:59
daeb:)04:59
daebnono i just need hoary then breezy will come later...05:00
lllmanullldaeb, As you wish, you can also update from Hoary to breezy without reinstalling05:00
daebi'm not afraid of installing or bored with partioning for linux, i just want a stable oS to listen and draw some...05:00
daebCan i upgrade without a connexion ?05:00
daebafter ?05:00
lllmanullldaeb, Breezy is fairly stable05:00
daebokie.. where can i find it ?05:01
daebis ther a page ?05:01
lllmanulllHmm Google :)05:01
lllmanulllTry ubuntu breezy colony 3 cd05:01
daebubuntulinux ?05:01
lllmanulllSomething like that05:01
daebcolony ? what is ?05:02
ograa group of badgers is a colony ;)05:02
lllmanulllHaha05:02
lllmanulllRight :)05:02
ogradont laug, thats the cause for this name ;)05:03
daebYahoo ?05:03
daeblol05:03
daebhi ogra05:03
lllmanulllOh, I didn't know that :)05:03
ograa group of hedgehogs is an array... thats why the hoary CDs were called array05:03
daebI found it ! nice i didn't notice on the original site there was words a bout (?)05:03
daeba colony of hedgehogs05:03
daeb:)05:03
ograheh05:04
daebno DVD now for Breezy ?05:04
daebno addons ?05:04
ograthere will be a DVD containing all of main ....05:05
ograas there was for hoary05:05
daebok... i will reuse the 5.04 supp. apps05:06
daeb:)05:06
daebogra do you make somthiing with the Art team ?05:06
ograi only package your stuff ...05:06
ograsomebody has to get it in ;) 05:07
daebMy... ?05:07
daebYes so you're welcome !05:07
daeb:)05:07
daebbetter be in good terms with you..05:07
daebI didn't produce anything for now but i'm really interested in participate...05:07
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daebi can make a lot of thing, but i need something like.. hem.. a ''boss'' :)05:08
daebfor instructions05:08
daeb:)05:08
daeberf05:08
ogravolvoguy or AndyFitz lead the art team... i guess they know where to point you...05:09
daebthey are from USA... then my connexion time is not the same, i missed Volvo Guy and AndyFitz get somewhere else for now... away (so far)05:09
daeb:)05:09
daebyou too ?05:10
daebI left a msg05:10
daebbut... I can focus their intention, i'm just a lill scrapy Irc newbie here :)05:10
daeb(and anywhere else ?)05:10
ogratry playing with the splash or make some wallpaper work for a start, i think there is still nobody working on...05:11
daebsplash ? Wallpapers ? I got some ideas .. ok... i accept anything (:)05:11
ograjust start, be creative ;)05:12
daebI can show you some works i did if you want05:12
daebi can be very creative, but i think for a projects there are rules and lines to follow (styles, colors, themes...)05:13
ograi dont think we'll change the metacity or gtk themes for now... so there could only be color changes ...05:13
daebok05:13
daebfor the splash, i don't know how the software work.. i can only give sketches or ... Picts05:13
ograi think AndyFitz wrote something up on the wiki... there are several pages about artwork rules05:13
daebnothing animated,05:13
ograthe splash is only a background image for the loading process... the animations are done by gnome session...05:14
ograso you only have to make the background pic05:14
ograeven for this there must be rules on the wiki anywhere05:15
daebunderstood05:15
daebi search05:15
daebis the.png format of photoshop equals to the gimp one ? (no worries about the tools used ?)05:16
lllmanulllogra, is the team working on applications icons as well ?05:16
daeblllmanulll yes...05:17
daebthere is a lot to do about the icons05:17
lllmanulllogra, I'm working on the gnome-panel as a developper, my work being try to make it look better -- and redesigning some of the apps icons would really enhance this part of the screen05:17
daebhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopArtwork05:17
lllmanulllI see05:18
lllmanulllThis page here05:18
lllmanulllhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HumilityIcons05:18
daeblllmanulll what the purpose of the redesign ?05:18
lllmanullltalks about GNOME icons05:18
ogralllmanulll, i'm not up to date about the icon status05:19
lllmanulllNot apps icons, so I'm not sure which ones I should work on, not to duplicate other people's work05:19
ogralllmanulll, talk to AndyFitz ...05:19
lllmanullldaeb, Hiding admin menu entries to non-admin users, redesigning the "add to panel" dialog, addind a small separator applet, a startup notification, etc.05:20
lllmanulllogra, Thanks, I'll wait for him here :)05:20
ograyup05:20
daebme too05:20
daebi need an icon exemple05:21
daebOh my god... 0.1% of the badgers pff05:24
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