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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-artwork:rob^] : Why is there no topic here?
[08:37] <rob^> oh
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[10:12] <daeb> Helo
[10:12] <daeb> !=
[10:13] <daeb> llmanulll hi !
[10:14] <daeb> nobody r
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[10:44] <klepas> anyone home?
[10:45] <daeb> Me
[10:45] <daeb> :)
[10:45] <daeb> ...
[10:45] <daeb> klepas ?
[10:45] <klepas> yep
[10:45] <klepas> How's it going?
[10:46] <daeb> fine.. and u ?
[10:46] <daeb> liltle streesy
[10:46] <daeb> :)
[10:46] <klepas> little streesy will ease down for me now
[10:47] <klepas> stress would describe my last week and a half :-)
[10:47] <daeb> would say stress...
[10:47] <daeb> :)
[10:47] <daeb> it's my turn this week
[10:47] <daeb> :x
[10:48] <klepas> do you know what's happened to the ubuntu art community?
[10:48] <daeb> Completly desintegrated by Pluto's Alien i think...
[10:48] <daeb> I'm looking for them
[10:48] <daeb> disapeared ?
[10:48] <daeb> pff
[10:49] <daeb> need some words or infos i can only fiund here
[10:49] <klepas> I'm trying to join them...
[10:49] <daeb> but no one answer...
[10:49] <daeb> keep on trying...
[10:49] <daeb> :)
[10:49] <klepas> hehe
[10:49] <daeb> mmake somth like 2 days i try
[10:49] <daeb> :)
[10:49] <klepas> I'll ask over the mailing list or something
[10:49] <daeb> i contacted lllmanulll he is smtime here
[10:50] <klepas> I want to give the splash screen go :-)
[10:51] <klepas> for breezy
[10:52] <klepas> got a site or somesuch?
[10:53] <daeb> erf
[10:53] <daeb> splash screen...
[10:53] <daeb> it's fashoin
[10:53] <daeb> it's fashion
[10:53] <daeb> :)
[10:53] <klepas> yep
[10:53] <klepas> got a page of them
[10:54] <daeb> DIdi you look too the Ubuntu community pages ?
[10:54] <klepas> http://wombat.nuxified.com/work
[10:54] <klepas> as in the wiki - yep
[10:54] <daeb> U know there is a lot of work for icons or wallpapers too...
[10:54] <daeb> ok
[10:54] <klepas> wallpapers and splash screens are my favourite
[10:54] <daeb> and did you go to the launchpad for subscription ?
[10:54] <daeb> kie
[10:54] <daeb> icons suxx ? lol
[10:55] <daeb> very nice banneer :)
[10:55] <klepas> yep
[10:55] <daeb> compliments
[10:55] <klepas> have been to launchpad
[10:55] <klepas> thanks
[10:55] <daeb> wanna see mine ?
[10:55] <klepas> sure :-)
[10:55] <daeb> so wait for mails llisted
[10:56] <daeb> Gimp splash is very beautiful
[10:56] <daeb> good concepts !!!
[10:56] <daeb> what is AMAROK ?
[10:57] <daeb> http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/555/imgs/wallpaper/wallpaper_fresh_linux.jpg
[10:57] <klepas> amarok is the flashiest media player
[10:57] <daeb> http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/555/imgs/wallpaper/xenoscape_l.jpg
[10:57] <daeb> Ahh i thought it was a media Os
[10:57] <klepas> for KDE
[10:57] <daeb> :(
[10:57] <daeb> Okie i see
[10:57] <klepas> but demands a lot of cpu
[10:57] <klepas> I don't use it m'self
[10:58] <daeb> i'm dl by bittorent the last ubuntu.. it's very long pff
[10:58] <klepas> however cool for showing off
[10:58] <daeb> okie see
[10:58] <klepas> cool wallpapers
[10:59] <daeb> you liie ? It's very old anyway
[10:59] <daeb> i'vce got some better but published for the moment
[11:00] <klepas> I liked the xenoscape one
[11:00] <daeb> thx
[11:00] <daeb> take take take :)
[11:00] <daeb> and distributed
[11:00] <klepas> I've got dinner
[11:00] <daeb> and distribute !
[11:00] <klepas> lol
[11:00] <klepas> :-)
[11:00] <daeb> eat well :)
[11:00] <klepas> yup
[11:00] <klepas> cheers
[11:00] <klepas> :-)
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[11:00] <daeb> bone app'
[11:00] <daeb> :)
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[03:29] <ogra> hey volvoguy 
[03:29] <volvoguy> howdy.
[03:30] <volvoguy> what's up?
[03:33] <ogra> you had a question the other day ? 
[03:34] <volvoguy> oh yeah. i just couldn't remember if you were a Canonical person or not. 
[03:34] <ogra> i am...
[03:34] <volvoguy> our lack of server is getting pretty silly at this point. 
[03:35] <volvoguy> the last i heard, jeff waugh was looking into the art.gnome.org code for us to use. that was at least a few weeks ago. 
[03:36] <ogra> i cant do much about that.. you must contact elmo... but he's very busy and not very responsive currently...
[03:36] <volvoguy> hmm... i don't even know that name yet. 
[03:36] <ogra> who cared for the server stuff until now ? 
[03:37] <ogra> hmm... AndyFitz promised me a fresh icon tarball.... nothing in my mail yet
[03:38] <volvoguy> nobody. that's kinda the problem. about a month ago, jane siber said our hardware was ready and asked what we wanted on it. we (andy and i) asked for the art.gnome.org code and CVS/subversion. i haven't heard anything since. 
[03:38] <volvoguy> andy's on yahoo messenger right now if you want to bug him. :o)
[03:38] <ogra> hmm, if the HW is ready, its rather a hno73 issue...
[03:40] <volvoguy> i'll try jane one more time since she seems to be my point of contact. maybe she can poke somebody into getting things done. 
[03:40] <ogra> i'm just trying to get hno over here
[03:41] <volvoguy> we were hoping to have our own art site up and running and be able to pick and choose artwork to promote for breezy. now we're less than a month away from breezy's deadline and the icons are the only thing we have to work with. :-\
[03:41] <ogra> he's on the phone... 
[03:41] <ogra> i think he'll com here soon..
[03:42] <volvoguy> ok. i can hang out a few more minutes. just took a bunch of pain meds, so i'll be asleep soon. 
[03:42] <ogra> oki
[03:43] <volvoguy> want me to ask andrew about a fresh icon tarball? 
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[03:43] <ogra> hi hno73 
[03:43] <volvoguy> howdy hno73!
[03:43] <ogra> the art team has some questions about their server :)
[03:44] <ogra> thanks for coming btw
[03:44] <volvoguy> even a status report would be nice. :)
[03:44] <ogra> volvoguy, i can ask Andy myself, no need to rush...
[03:44] <volvoguy> ogra, ok. 
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[03:47] <volvoguy> hno73, so you know what's going on... Jane Siber told me a few weeks ago that our hardware was ready. The last I heard, Jeff W. was looking into using the art.gnome.org website as a starting point for ours (so apache, database, maybe php), and we're also in need of a versioning system. andrew and jeff know more about that than i do though. 
[03:47] <volvoguy> hno73, no rush. i'll be around for a few minutes. :) thanks. 
[03:48] <volvoguy> ogra, if i fall asleep, you know as much as i do now. :) andrew probably has a bit more insight as well. 
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[03:54] <volvoguy> oh thank you. i have toothpicks propping my eyelids open. :)
[03:54] <hno73> uhm, do you guys read the art mailing list? ;)
[03:54] <volvoguy> yep.
[03:54] <hno73> I have a server set up and the site is nearly done. see: http://69.60.114.112/
[03:55] <hno73> It's a different server from the one Jane and Jeff were talking about
[03:55] <hno73> This one is not in our own data centre
[03:56] <ogra> but looks great already
[03:56] <volvoguy> cool. i don't remember any emails about it, but i'm glad to see it's getting done!
[03:56] <hno73> It's an external box, which means we can be a bit more relaxed about security
[03:57] <hno73> My plan is to have it completely done and launched by Friday
[03:58] <volvoguy> sounds good. i don't know if the art.gnome.org guys have any kind of admin interface, but andrew, myself and probably ogra should probably have some kinda access to it. 
[03:58] <volvoguy> excellent!
[03:58] <hno73> I have one show-stopping problem though. See: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/artweb-list/2005-August/msg00012.html
[03:59] <hno73> volvoguy: yeah, email me and I'll give you access
[03:59] <volvoguy> hno73, ok. will do. 
[03:59] <hno73> any MySQL/PHP experts here? :)
[04:00] <hno73> I can give you guys accounts on the server itself to, for putting up static pages or whatever
[04:01] <AndyFitz> hno73,  not an expert .  but I can grok a good drupal  lol
[04:01] <volvoguy> some PHP. i'm not conscious enough to look at the source right now though. (up all night and just took pain meds). i'll be back home and awake in 6-8 hour.
[04:02] <hno73> OK, so basically the site works for uploading  now, just not for 'promoting' stuff to be visible on the site
[04:03] <hno73> First one to figure it out gets a star :)
[04:03] <volvoguy> do you mean automatically promoting it, or can't you get them to display at all (manually)?
[04:04] <hno73> volvoguy: I cant get it to display at all ATM
[04:04] <volvoguy> ok
[04:04] <hno73> It's probably trivial though ...
[04:05] <hno73> once I find it
[04:06] <volvoguy> i'll be having dinner with a mysql/php expert before friday, so when i have access to it i'll pick his brain a bit. :)
[04:06] <hno73> just register on the site and I'll make you admin so you can play around
[04:06] <volvoguy> ok
[04:06] <hno73> hopefully the gnome art people will just answer my post
[04:07] <hno73> that would be the easiest :)
[04:07] <volvoguy> i'm registered. 
[04:07] <volvoguy> have you tried their IRC channel? 
[04:07] <volvoguy> they seemed to be pleased that we wanted to use some of their stuff. 
[04:07] <hno73> thanks, I'll try that
[04:08] <hno73> OK, I've promoted you
[04:08] <volvoguy> i think they are #gnome-art on irc.gnome.org
[04:08] <volvoguy> cool.
[04:08] <AndyFitz> irc.gimp.org
[04:08] <hno73> got to URL/admin
[04:08] <volvoguy> ahh. thanks AndyFitz. 
[04:09] <hno73> AndyFitz: will you register as well while we're at it?
[04:11] <hno73> oh, I see the skin is broken on the admin pages
[04:11] <volvoguy> ok. i need to go before i start drooling on the keyboard. thanks for stopping by hno73, it's much appreciated! i'll be back to chat in a few hours. 
[04:11] <hno73> volvoguy: ok, np
[04:12] <volvoguy> later everyone!
[04:17] <AndyFitz> hno73,  sure thing
[04:48] <daeb> Hi ppl
[04:48] <daeb> Smbdy here ?
[04:48] <daeb> lllmanulll ?
[04:48] <lllmanulll> Yep
[04:48] <lllmanulll> I'm here
[04:49] <daeb> COmmentr sa roule ?
[04:49] <daeb> Hi how r u ?
[04:49] <daeb> Drawing ?
[04:49] <daeb> AndyFitz can i help for Ub. Icons ?
[04:49] <lllmanulll> Huh
[04:49] <lllmanulll> Coding :)
[04:50] <daeb> Erf... Summer of code again..
[04:50] <lllmanulll> Struggling with that autoconf/automake mystery
[04:50] <lllmanulll> By the way, about icons, I'd love to help on applications icons
[04:50] <daeb> Autoconf ? Automake ? Tryu another langage i don't speak chinese... I only Know Automount ;)
[04:50] <daeb> :)
[04:50] <daeb> lol
[04:50] <lllmanulll> Which doesn't seem to appear on the roadmap page
[04:50] <lllmanulll> Hehe, don't laugh, I do speak Chinese :-p
[04:50] <daeb> YTup everybody -> http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/555/imgs/draw/totonixtx.jpg
[04:52] <daeb> lllmanulll it's purpose is to compile ?
[04:52] <daeb> i need AndyFitz
[04:53] <daeb> i need an example of his icon set for ubuntu to look if i can help
[04:53] <lllmanulll> daeb, Yes, automatically create Makefiles and configure scripts so that everything goes well for compiling, on several kinds of systems
[04:53] <daeb> i'm volunteer to draw the System/peripheral/Hardware set of icons
[04:53] <daeb> :)
[04:53] <daeb> just as install.exe...
[04:53] <daeb> :)
[04:53] <lllmanulll> daeb, Don't know where to find that, but you can install Ubuntu if you haven't, and download the humility package
[04:53] <daeb> or setup
[04:54] <lllmanulll> Well that's for installing programs, this is more general, including compilation
[04:54] <daeb> i see
[04:55] <daeb> ./make conf
[04:55] <daeb> ./ocnfigure
[04:55] <daeb> oops
[04:55] <daeb> :)
[04:55] <lllmanulll> Nearly :)
[04:56] <daeb> i have to install the new ubuntu... I tried some month ago the Hoary... 4
[04:56] <daeb> Now i'm DL the latest.
[04:56] <daeb> but bittorrent su**
[04:56] <daeb> transfert rate = some bananas...
[04:57] <lllmanulll> You can download it from the main servers ?
[04:57] <lllmanulll> No need for bittorrent, if it doesn't work
[04:57] <daeb> no i tought it could be great by bttorr
[04:57] <lllmanulll> You can try Breezy, Colony 3
[04:57] <daeb> woaw ?
[04:57] <daeb> A new 1
[04:57] <daeb> or a beta 1
[04:57] <daeb> ?
[04:57] <daeb> where can i find THE latest ?
[04:58] <lllmanulll> Hmm
[04:58] <lllmanulll> Well
[04:58] <lllmanulll> If you want a very stable system
[04:58] <lllmanulll> It's better to install Hoary
[04:58] <lllmanulll> Which is version 5.04
[04:59] <daeb> What's the best way for DL THE latest most - stable - then ?
[04:59] <daeb> Hoary... yep, 5.04
[04:59] <lllmanulll> But if you want newer stuff, and don't care to see a few things broken somtimes, Breezy is great
[04:59] <daeb> I need
[04:59] <daeb> Breezy ?
[04:59] <daeb> what's the version ? pre-alpha ? lol ?
[04:59] <daeb> I want breezy too
[04:59] <daeb> :)
[05:00] <daeb> nono i just need hoary then breezy will come later...
[05:00] <lllmanulll> daeb, As you wish, you can also update from Hoary to breezy without reinstalling
[05:00] <daeb> i'm not afraid of installing or bored with partioning for linux, i just want a stable oS to listen and draw some...
[05:00] <daeb> Can i upgrade without a connexion ?
[05:00] <daeb> after ?
[05:00] <lllmanulll> daeb, Breezy is fairly stable
[05:01] <daeb> okie.. where can i find it ?
[05:01] <daeb> is ther a page ?
[05:01] <lllmanulll> Hmm Google :)
[05:01] <lllmanulll> Try ubuntu breezy colony 3 cd
[05:01] <daeb> ubuntulinux ?
[05:01] <lllmanulll> Something like that
[05:02] <daeb> colony ? what is ?
[05:02] <ogra> a group of badgers is a colony ;)
[05:02] <lllmanulll> Haha
[05:02] <lllmanulll> Right :)
[05:03] <ogra> dont laug, thats the cause for this name ;)
[05:03] <daeb> Yahoo ?
[05:03] <daeb> lol
[05:03] <daeb> hi ogra
[05:03] <lllmanulll> Oh, I didn't know that :)
[05:03] <ogra> a group of hedgehogs is an array... thats why the hoary CDs were called array
[05:03] <daeb> I found it ! nice i didn't notice on the original site there was words a bout (?)
[05:03] <daeb> a colony of hedgehogs
[05:03] <daeb> :)
[05:04] <ogra> heh
[05:04] <daeb> no DVD now for Breezy ?
[05:04] <daeb> no addons ?
[05:05] <ogra> there will be a DVD containing all of main ....
[05:05] <ogra> as there was for hoary
[05:06] <daeb> ok... i will reuse the 5.04 supp. apps
[05:06] <daeb> :)
[05:06] <daeb> ogra do you make somthiing with the Art team ?
[05:06] <ogra> i only package your stuff ...
[05:07] <ogra> somebody has to get it in ;) 
[05:07] <daeb> My... ?
[05:07] <daeb> Yes so you're welcome !
[05:07] <daeb> :)
[05:07] <daeb> better be in good terms with you..
[05:07] <daeb> I didn't produce anything for now but i'm really interested in participate...
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[05:08] <daeb> i can make a lot of thing, but i need something like.. hem.. a ''boss'' :)
[05:08] <daeb> for instructions
[05:08] <daeb> :)
[05:08] <daeb> erf
[05:09] <ogra> volvoguy or AndyFitz lead the art team... i guess they know where to point you...
[05:09] <daeb> they are from USA... then my connexion time is not the same, i missed Volvo Guy and AndyFitz get somewhere else for now... away (so far)
[05:09] <daeb> :)
[05:10] <daeb> you too ?
[05:10] <daeb> I left a msg
[05:10] <daeb> but... I can focus their intention, i'm just a lill scrapy Irc newbie here :)
[05:10] <daeb> (and anywhere else ?)
[05:11] <ogra> try playing with the splash or make some wallpaper work for a start, i think there is still nobody working on...
[05:11] <daeb> splash ? Wallpapers ? I got some ideas .. ok... i accept anything (:)
[05:12] <ogra> just start, be creative ;)
[05:12] <daeb> I can show you some works i did if you want
[05:13] <daeb> i can be very creative, but i think for a projects there are rules and lines to follow (styles, colors, themes...)
[05:13] <ogra> i dont think we'll change the metacity or gtk themes for now... so there could only be color changes ...
[05:13] <daeb> ok
[05:13] <daeb> for the splash, i don't know how the software work.. i can only give sketches or ... Picts
[05:13] <ogra> i think AndyFitz wrote something up on the wiki... there are several pages about artwork rules
[05:13] <daeb> nothing animated,
[05:14] <ogra> the splash is only a background image for the loading process... the animations are done by gnome session...
[05:14] <ogra> so you only have to make the background pic
[05:15] <ogra> even for this there must be rules on the wiki anywhere
[05:15] <daeb> understood
[05:15] <daeb> i search
[05:16] <daeb> is the.png format of photoshop equals to the gimp one ? (no worries about the tools used ?)
[05:16] <lllmanulll> ogra, is the team working on applications icons as well ?
[05:17] <daeb> lllmanulll yes...
[05:17] <daeb> there is a lot to do about the icons
[05:17] <lllmanulll> ogra, I'm working on the gnome-panel as a developper, my work being try to make it look better -- and redesigning some of the apps icons would really enhance this part of the screen
[05:17] <daeb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopArtwork
[05:18] <lllmanulll> I see
[05:18] <lllmanulll> This page here
[05:18] <lllmanulll> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HumilityIcons
[05:18] <daeb> lllmanulll what the purpose of the redesign ?
[05:18] <lllmanulll> talks about GNOME icons
[05:19] <ogra> lllmanulll, i'm not up to date about the icon status
[05:19] <lllmanulll> Not apps icons, so I'm not sure which ones I should work on, not to duplicate other people's work
[05:19] <ogra> lllmanulll, talk to AndyFitz ...
[05:20] <lllmanulll> daeb, Hiding admin menu entries to non-admin users, redesigning the "add to panel" dialog, addind a small separator applet, a startup notification, etc.
[05:20] <lllmanulll> ogra, Thanks, I'll wait for him here :)
[05:20] <ogra> yup
[05:20] <daeb> me too
[05:21] <daeb> i need an icon exemple
[05:24] <daeb> Oh my god... 0.1% of the badgers pff
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