| sistpoty | Opening audio decoder: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52 | 12:02 |
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| sistpoty | AC3: 5.1 (3f+2r+lfe) 48000 Hz 384.0 kbit/s | 12:02 |
| sistpoty | MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio | 12:02 |
| sistpoty | ^^ stripped output from mplayer | 12:02 |
| slomo | sistpoty: ok, i'll put it on top of my todo list... after mplayer | 12:02 |
| sistpoty | slomo: you're my hero ;) | 12:02 |
| tseng | bradb: cheers | 12:02 |
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| lamont | slomo: bad build-depends | 12:12 |
| lamont | usr/include/X11/extensions/xf86dga.h x11proto-xf86dga-dev | 12:13 |
| slomo | lamont: isn't this libxxf86dga-dev? | 12:13 |
| lamont | so what that means is that Xorg split up more between your prior and most-recent uploads | 12:13 |
| lamont | npoe | 12:13 |
| lamont | nope, even | 12:13 |
| lamont | it's x11proto-xf86dga-dev | 12:13 |
| slomo | uh ok... but why did it work in my pbuilder then? :/ | 12:14 |
| slomo | so change libxxf86dga-dev to x11proto-xf86dga-dev and hope it works again? | 12:14 |
| lamont | libxxf86* would be from xfree86, dude | 12:14 |
| lamont | how clean is your pbuilder chroot, and how current are your sources? and is it purely breezy deb lines in sources.list? | 12:14 |
| slomo | lamont: it's completely clean, nothing except the stuff debootstrap put into... and i updated it just before trying mplayer | 12:15 |
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| lamont | that is, the short answer to "why did it work in pbuilder but not the buildd?" is one of the following: (1) pbuilder chroot out of date, (2) pbuilder misconfigured, (3) differences between sbuild and pbuilder, and (4) (albeit rarely) someone uploaded a package that fails to remove correctly, and broke the sbuild chroot | 12:16 |
| lamont | the hint for (4) is that the log file claims that a package is already installed, and then later the build dies because a file _FROM_THAT_PACKAGE_ is missing | 12:17 |
| lamont | well, that's not so much a hint, as a smoking gun. :-) | 12:17 |
| slomo | lamont: ok thanks :) but i really believe that my pbuilder chroot is fine... well, i'll change that build-depend and try again :) | 12:18 |
| Nafallo | slomo: let me try it to ;-) | 12:19 |
| Nafallo | slomo: what should I do? :-) | 12:19 |
| slomo | Nafallo: lol... change libxxf86dga-dev to x11proto-xf86dga-dev in every control file and try it in your pbuilder ;) | 12:19 |
| Nafallo | gaah! | 12:19 |
| Nafallo | that's painful | 12:19 |
| slomo | sed is your friend :P | 12:20 |
| Nafallo | give me a debdiff? ;-) | 12:20 |
| slomo | sure... wait ;) | 12:20 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 12:20 |
| slomo | Nafallo: http://yggdrasil.sytes.net/files/debdiff/mplayer_1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu3.debdiff | 12:21 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 12:22 |
| === Nafallo cuts out debian/control from that debdiff :-P | ||
| slomo | lol | 12:24 |
| slomo | do you want another upload with your name on it today? :P | 12:24 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 12:24 |
| Nafallo | ofcourse :-) | 12:24 |
| Nafallo | but the debdiff didn't apply ;-) | 12:25 |
| Nafallo | and it's not name, it's key :-) | 12:25 |
| slomo | sure but when you cut everything except the changelog it's also name :P | 12:27 |
| Nafallo | no | 12:27 |
| Nafallo | debian/control, not debian/control.* :-) | 12:27 |
| slomo | hmm... why did you cut debian/control? you need the control.amd64 file :P | 12:28 |
| Nafallo | cause you got another debian/control than I have? ;-) | 12:29 |
| slomo | why is that? | 12:29 |
| Nafallo | I'm on amd64 and you are on i386? :-) | 12:29 |
| slomo | the plain control file, without anything else is something we don't even use ;) | 12:30 |
| slomo | control.marillat for x86 and control.arch for every other arch | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | slomo: yea, check your debdiff mate ;-) | 12:30 |
| Nafallo | slomo: debian/control on yours expect the line Package: mplayer-386 | 12:31 |
| Nafallo | on my it's Package: mplayer-amd64 | 12:31 |
| Nafallo | so, that's a reject then :-P | 12:31 |
| slomo | oh ok... i hate this package ;) | 12:32 |
| Nafallo | hehe :-) | 12:32 |
| slomo | btw... FTBFS... vo_3dfx.c:(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `XF86DGADirectVideo' | 12:32 |
| slomo | i really hate this package :P | 12:32 |
| Nafallo | I got http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1753 again :-) | 12:33 |
| slomo | hrm | 12:33 |
| slomo | Nafallo: can you try to fix it? | 12:35 |
| crimsun | slomo: apologies, I've had a high fever the past couple days. Will get to it tonight. | 12:36 |
| slomo | crimsun: not necessary anymore ;) Nafallo uploaded it already :) | 12:36 |
| crimsun | ok | 12:36 |
| Nafallo | slomo: yes, you didn't patch control.amd64 ;-) | 12:37 |
| slomo | Nafallo: lol... you're right... this really isn't my day ;) | 12:37 |
| Nafallo | slomo: ehm... I can't find that build-dep either ;-) | 12:38 |
| slomo | Nafallo: ok, that's why sed didn't work then ;) throw some stone in marillat's direction :P | 12:38 |
| Nafallo | slomo: I'll add som build-deps first and foremost ;-) | 12:39 |
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| slomo | lamont: are you sure x11proto-xf86dga-dev is the right thing? it doesn't depend on anything which contains the dga library, only headers... so builds will fail | 12:59 |
| sistpoty | slomo: mplayer -vo help --> dga DGA ( Direct Graphic Access V2.0 )... not sure if the lib comes with mplayer however ;) | 01:02 |
| slomo | sistpoty: no... it's something shipped by X itself ;) | 01:03 |
| sistpoty | ok... thought that mplayer would also ship libdga or s.th. like it imo does with liba52 | 01:03 |
| crimsun | right, DGA is an X* extension | 01:04 |
| slomo | crimsun: do you know the correct build-depend for packages depending on it? | 01:04 |
| sistpoty | libxxf86dga-dev? | 01:05 |
| slomo | sistpoty: lamont said this is deprecated by x11proto-xf86dga-dev... but this package doesn't pull the libs in (which are only in libxxf86dga1) | 01:05 |
| slomo | sistpoty: btw, is the a52dec problem only with mplayer or with our regular liba52? | 01:06 |
| crimsun | slomo: hmm, sounds like something might be missing in the b-d. Try asking daniels when he's around | 01:07 |
| sistpoty | slomo: imo the prob is with mplayer only... i took a look at it once, and iirc mplayer ships its own liba52 | 01:07 |
| slomo | sistpoty: yes it ships it own... hm, can you try playing this video with gst-launch-ext-0.8 (after installing all gstreamer plugins ;) ) | 01:07 |
| sistpoty | slomo: sure... need to install gstreamer however ;) | 01:08 |
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| lamont | sistpoty: having mplayer ship header files that rightfully belong to other libs is purely wrong and unsupportable | 01:18 |
| ogra | sounds like nvu :) | 01:19 |
| slomo | lamont: they only ship their own version of a complete library... not some random headers of something else | 01:20 |
| lamont | and do they ultimately really wind up linked to that lib, or to the other one? | 01:20 |
| lamont | looks like it uses a static one... | 01:22 |
| lamont | although, doesn't liba52.so depend on kernel interfaces? | 01:22 |
| slomo | lamont: no idea... at least mplayer is ugly ;) | 01:23 |
| lamont | well, it's b0rken for me on hoary... | 01:23 |
| lamont | nothing but segv. | 01:23 |
| slomo | hehe... it worked on breezy for a week now... at least for me ;) | 01:24 |
| slomo | and now this stupid thing don't want to be rebuilt... | 01:24 |
| Nafallo | slomo++ ;-) | 01:24 |
| sistpoty | hm... it ldd's on quite some stuff... i'll retry with the "original marillat"-version | 01:24 |
| slomo | sistpoty: did you try gstreamer? | 01:25 |
| sistpoty | slomo: didn't get it fully installed yet :/ | 01:25 |
| slomo | sistpoty: why? slow connection or something broken? | 01:25 |
| sistpoty | slomo: what do i need to install to get all plugins? gstreamer-plugins doesn't work | 01:26 |
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| slomo | sistpoty: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-pitfdll | 01:27 |
| slomo | sistpoty: then you have everything ;) | 01:27 |
| sistpoty | btw. mplayer-386 (1:1.0-pre7) on debian/sid(chroot) doesn't crash | 01:27 |
| sistpoty | *installing* | 01:28 |
| sistpoty | s/debian\/sid/debian\/unstable ;) | 01:29 |
| sistpoty | however not up to date ;) | 01:29 |
| ogra | compiled with gcc4 ? | 01:29 |
| Nafallo | slomo: pit what? :-) | 01:31 |
| slomo | Nafallo: pitfdll... windows dll loader plugin for gstreamer ;) | 01:31 |
| sistpoty | ogra: mplayer? dunno with what marillat compiled his debs | 01:31 |
| Nafallo | hehe, won't work on amd64 then :-P | 01:31 |
| Nafallo | siretart: computers probably :-) | 01:31 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 01:32 |
| pef | I leave, good night ! (1:32apm here) | 01:32 |
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| Nafallo | pef: see you tomorrow :-) | 01:32 |
| pef | Nafallo: of course, I have something to upload ;) | 01:32 |
| sistpoty | gn8 pef | 01:32 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 01:33 |
| pef | :) | 01:33 |
| sistpoty | slomo: gst-launch-ext-0.8 is working fine... | 01:35 |
| slomo | sistpoty: fine... at least something :) | 01:35 |
| sistpoty | :) | 01:35 |
| slomo | sistpoty: did you try the latest version by marillat on debian? | 01:42 |
| sistpoty | slomo: dunno... mom i'll check | 01:43 |
| sistpoty | slomo: this is the latest binary-version on "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main" | 01:45 |
| sistpoty | brb (smoking a cigarette) | 01:45 |
| slomo | sistpoty: 1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.2? | 01:46 |
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| sistpoty | slomo: no, it's 1.0-pre7 | 01:55 |
| slomo | sistpoty: uhm... no: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/m/mplayer/ | 01:55 |
| ryanthiessen | slomo: was it you that was thinking of doing a thoggen package for breezy? | 01:56 |
| slomo | ryanthiessen: yes... or for breezy+1... why? | 01:56 |
| ryanthiessen | slomo: just got word from the developer, he's putting out a release and a new .deb next week, perhaps that could save some work | 01:58 |
| slomo | ryanthiessen: sure :) can you notify me when he released a new version? | 01:59 |
| ryanthiessen | slomo: will do | 01:59 |
| slomo | ryanthiessen: thanks :) but i think i'll package it myself and don't take his package | 02:00 |
| sistpoty | slomo: this is strange... i don't see a cvs...-0.2 binary there... there are mplayer-386_1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1_i386.deb and mplayer-386_1.0-pre7-0.2_i386.deb... which one to go? (i always get it wrong with versions *g*) | 02:03 |
| slomo | sistpoty: the 0.1 ;) | 02:03 |
| sistpoty | damn... to new for my unstable (either too new in general or i should upgrade about 150 packages...) | 02:06 |
| sistpoty | erm... 338 packages to update... I'll do this tomorrow and try again, ok? | 02:07 |
| slomo | ok, thanks :) | 02:07 |
| slomo | just notify me when you have some results | 02:07 |
| slomo | we should have a buildable mplayer package by then ;) | 02:07 |
| sistpoty | slomo: i will do, and good luck ;) | 02:08 |
| === sistpoty is off to bed then... gn8 everyone | ||
| slomo | gn8 | 02:09 |
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| mbreit | good night | 02:32 |
| bddebian | gnight mbreit | 02:33 |
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| bddebian | Damn, where is everyone? Hard at work? :-) | 03:01 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: yep :_) | 03:02 |
| Nafallo | :-) | 03:02 |
| bddebian | Good man :-) | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | why would you hide from me, bddebian ? | 03:04 |
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| Nafallo | lol | 03:05 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Because I seem to frustrate you :-) | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | don't worry, I'll try to take it out on others ;) | 03:05 |
| bddebian | Well I wish I understood better how to be more helpful :-( | 03:06 |
| ajmitch | you're doing ok | 03:08 |
| bddebian | Yeah, I can tell :-) | 03:10 |
| ajmitch | I'm just the sort of person who's willing to critique others' work :) | 03:11 |
| ajmitch | it's the perfectionist in me that needs to be beaten down | 03:12 |
| bddebian | Nah, that's a good thing :-) | 03:12 |
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| ajmitch | I haven't even look at half the ones you said just needed a rebuild | 03:14 |
| bddebian | That's OK, no one looks at my work.. ;-P | 03:14 |
| ajmitch | I'm noone now, am I? | 03:15 |
| bddebian | You just said... :-) | 03:15 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Do you have your FTBFS list? | 03:16 |
| ajmitch | I havent' grabbed the build logs to see if they are really FTBFS | 03:18 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: If the package requires libmagick++6 but depends shlibs, it should resolve libmagick++6c2 on it's own right? | 03:19 |
| ajmitch | I guess | 03:20 |
| bddebian | You guess? | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | yes, I'm just guessing there | 03:20 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: btw, don't bother with k3d | 03:25 |
| ajmitch | I've got to upload the patched pkg from Lathiat | 03:25 |
| bddebian | I'm no where near the k's yet :-) | 03:26 |
| bddebian | OK, postgresql-plruby depends postgresql (< 7.5). Should it depend postgresql-7.4 or be upgraded? | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | depends if it works with 8.0, and whether 7.4 or 8.0 is default | 03:28 |
| bddebian | 7.5.8 is default | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | well, I guess you have to check if it works nicely with that :) | 03:30 |
| bddebian | Bah I'll leave that for you MOTU types ;-P | 03:33 |
| chillywilly | yo | 03:33 |
| bddebian | chillywilly!!!!!!! | 03:33 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: aren't you supposed to be one? | 03:34 |
| bddebian | Uhm, polyxmass is an empty source package (meta package?) | 03:34 |
| chillywilly | bddebian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 | 03:34 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Nope | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: why not? | 03:34 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Why not, what? | 03:34 |
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| ajmitch | why aren't you a 'MOTU type' | 03:35 |
| bddebian | <-- Is not an MOTU :-) | 03:35 |
| bddebian | chillywilly: Nice | 03:35 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: And isn't it obvious that I don't know much? :-) | 03:35 |
| === ajmitch is sick of that | ||
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| chillywilly | yea, that's a weak argument bddebian | 03:36 |
| === chillywilly thwaps bddebian around some | ||
| bddebian | chillywilly: What's a weak arguement? | 03:36 |
| chillywilly | are you watching the same channel as I am or are you just particularly dense tonight ;) | 03:36 |
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| === bddebian chugs it down | ||
| bddebian | chillywilly: What you been up to man? I was in your neck of the woods last week | 03:38 |
| chillywilly | bah... | 03:38 |
| chillywilly | had a really busy weekend | 03:38 |
| chillywilly | practiced some more with the church band on friday night | 03:39 |
| bddebian | Cool | 03:39 |
| chillywilly | then went to a music festival and was there all day saturday | 03:39 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Sick of what man? | 03:39 |
| chillywilly | then we had our church festival where we played live all day on Sunday | 03:39 |
| chillywilly | we rocked | 03:40 |
| bddebian | Coolio | 03:40 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: sick of the "I'm so thick, not worthy to be a MOTU" sort of argument :) | 03:40 |
| chillywilly | I have some video...should upload it | 03:40 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: That's not arguement, that's fact ;-P | 03:41 |
| Nafallo | gaah | 03:41 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Anyway, shouldn't a source meta package include all the packages? | 03:41 |
| Nafallo | mplayer just has to be the worst source in the archive ;-) | 03:41 |
| Burgundavia | Nafallo, I don't understand why people like the application. It has a horrible interface and it sounds horrible to maintain | 03:42 |
| Nafallo | Burgundavia: it can play everything :-P | 03:43 |
| Nafallo | I'm rebuilding the package anyway ;-) | 03:44 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: depends, if it was merged into anoether | 03:44 |
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| bddebian | ajmitch: Well it looks wrong to me | 03:49 |
| chillywilly | people like mplayer because it is the swiss army knife of media players | 03:49 |
| chillywilly | imho | 03:49 |
| bddebian | I think it's because it kinda sounds like Windows Media Player | 03:50 |
| === bddebian ducks | ||
| zyga | err | 03:50 |
| chillywilly | xine has to be a close second though and then for UIs totem with the xine backend rules my world | 03:50 |
| zyga | it's because it's startup time is better than everything else | 03:50 |
| zyga | without gui it's pretty usable | 03:50 |
| zyga | and it's the fastest as far as I can tell | 03:51 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: What do you think makes more sense. Plow through the rest of these packages making notes, or trying to fix the FTBFSs I find? | 03:58 |
| ajmitch | bddebian: so I take it you're going to fix all those ones that you've noted, since they're under your name? | 03:58 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: I guess, though that wasn't necessarily my intention. I wanted to get through the "low hanging fruit" first, then go back to FTBFSs and other more difficult issues | 04:00 |
| ajmitch | some of us have already done a run through compiling the whole list :) | 04:00 |
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| bddebian | Then why am I doing this? | 04:01 |
| ajmitch | for fame & glory, and the love of it all | 04:02 |
| bddebian | I mean, manually going through the list? | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | for just that reason | 04:09 |
| bddebian | But if you folks have already made lists and I'm expected to fix all that I find, what is the point? | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | just because I've built everything & have build logs doesn't mean I've checked all the dependencies yet | 04:14 |
| bddebian | Well then I ask again, should I keep going through the list or fix what I have already found? :-) | 04:15 |
| ajmitch | fixing as you go tends to be a better way | 04:16 |
| bddebian | OK | 04:21 |
| jblack | Hello, hello, hello! | 04:24 |
| === jblack spins the bottle.. spin, spin spin | ||
| jblack | Hey ajmitch! What's up? | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | hi jblack | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | just doing some coding | 04:25 |
| ajmitch | watching irc, etc.. | 04:25 |
| jblack | Sounds like a dreamlife. :) | 04:26 |
| ajmitch | oh sure | 04:27 |
| jblack | Anyways, I'd like to grab those projects that you think could use baz of one incarnation of another. :) | 04:28 |
| === ajmitch still needs to have more spare time for ubuntu | ||
| ajmitch | right.. | 04:28 |
| ajmitch | let me try & think which ones could benefit | 04:28 |
| bddebian | Hello jblack | 04:30 |
| jblack | bddebian! What's up? | 04:31 |
| bddebian | Just making ajmitch's life more difficult. :-) You? | 04:32 |
| jblack | Just making ajmitch's life more difficult. :-) | 04:32 |
| ajmitch | the world is against me.. | 04:32 |
| jblack | ajmitch: Nah, don't take it that way. If people are looking for you, that means you matter. | 04:33 |
| ajmitch | that's a novel way of looking at it :) | 04:33 |
| bddebian | ajmitch: Bah, we love you man :-) | 04:34 |
| ajmitch | jblack: the 2 projects that I have contact with as a packager _might_ find it helpful, although they're fairly quiet | 04:35 |
| jblack | Thats a good thing then. They're not in a huge rush. They won't start screaming "We'll die if you don't fix this problem THIS VERY SECOND" | 04:36 |
| ajmitch | yeah | 04:37 |
| ajmitch | one uses cvs on savannah, the other svn on its own server | 04:37 |
| ajmitch | where developers have ssh access (including me) | 04:37 |
| jblack | Those are good targets. We have the tools to migrate them without loosing history. What are the names of the projects, if I may ask? | 04:38 |
| ajmitch | dotgnu portable.net (uses cvs), and gnu enterprise | 04:39 |
| ajmitch | they have very minimal use of branching/tagging | 04:39 |
| jblack | Those sound like they'd be pretty big. | 04:40 |
| ajmitch | pnet is ~1 million LOC | 04:41 |
| ajmitch | gnu enterprise isn't as big, but is comprised of a number of tools | 04:41 |
| bddebian | Well the GCC4CommonProblems is a helpful page.. :-) | 04:47 |
| bddebian | What is "invalid use of void expression" error? | 04:50 |
| jblack | Ok. I'll talk to the enterprise guys. Do you have any friends their? | 04:52 |
| ajmitch | yeah, jamest, jcater, reinhard in #gnuenterprise, or there's the mailing list | 04:52 |
| ajmitch | I'd better get onto their packaging ASAP though :) | 04:53 |
| ajmitch | since I was using it for a bzr experiment | 04:53 |
| jblack | Grin. :) | 04:53 |
| jblack | I like the idea of getting them to bzr and you packaging them. You can track their code much more easily | 04:54 |
| ajmitch | well it's not too hard already with svn | 04:54 |
| ajmitch | since I have commit access there | 04:55 |
| jblack | I think it would be cool to have them in bzr, so that everybody in the world has commit access. :) | 04:56 |
| ajmitch | sure, but I think something like PQM for bzr will be an important part for most people | 04:59 |
| jblack | true. In the meantime, though, multiple people can commit to one place. | 05:01 |
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| ajmitch | so is baz marketing part of your work now? | 05:03 |
| jblack | Lets just say that I'm invested in getthing baz out to the general public. | 05:03 |
| jblack | A lot of people have worked on bazaar. It doesn't do anybody any good if its hidden in a clost. :) | 05:04 |
| jblack | *closet | 05:04 |
| ajmitch | it's a hot topic at the moment, which SCM to use | 05:07 |
| bddebian | Visual Source Safe? | 05:07 |
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| jblack | is it? Then lets jump on it. | 05:08 |
| jblack | If they're actively discussing this issue, then the mailing list is probably best. | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | not for gnue, but in general | 05:09 |
| ajmitch | eg on planet.debian.org, various lists | 05:09 |
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| Whistler | hello | 07:42 |
| Whistler | why cant i write to ubuntu channel? | 07:42 |
| Whistler | i get * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel | 07:43 |
| rob^ | you probably have been banned | 07:43 |
| rob^ | yep you have been | 07:44 |
| Whistler | emm | 07:44 |
| Whistler | its probably of my dynamic ip | 07:44 |
| rob^ | no | 07:45 |
| Whistler | ban is for my nick? | 07:45 |
| rob^ | %Whistler!*@* | 07:45 |
| Whistler | oh | 07:45 |
| Whistler | i still dont get the reason of this | 07:46 |
| rob^ | well either you, or someone using your nick was naughty in #ubuntu and got banned | 07:46 |
| rob^ | talk to one of the ops to get the ban removed | 07:47 |
| Whistler | theres no ops online | 07:47 |
| Whistler | :D | 07:47 |
| Whistler | well thx | 07:48 |
| rob^ | :) | 07:48 |
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| StrikeForce_work | hey all | 07:49 |
| StrikeForce_work | cany anyone tell me what package deals with the qsqldatabase? | 07:53 |
| StrikeForce_work | can* | 07:55 |
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| Whistler | anybody can recommend me vnc client? | 08:20 |
| Whistler | sorry for askin here but i have ban in ubuntu chan | 08:20 |
| StrikeForce_work | why do you have a ban? | 08:21 |
| StrikeForce_work | sudo apt-cache search vnc | 08:21 |
| Whistler | i dont know why | 08:22 |
| Whistler | :( | 08:22 |
| phlaegel | Whistler: is your nick registered? | 08:28 |
| Whistler | yep | 08:28 |
| phlaegel | never mind then :-) | 08:28 |
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| StrikeForce_work | damn this mythmusic depends on a lot :( | 08:33 |
| StrikeForce_work | I may as well download every single binary :P | 08:33 |
| === rob^ looks up, yes he does | ||
| StrikeForce_work | btw anyone wanna REVU bittorrent and bittornado please :) | 08:34 |
| StrikeForce_work | Does predepends get installed prior to the installation of the main package? | 08:42 |
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| === Whistler wants an ibook | ||
| rob^ | we can't help you, see http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.eloan.com/&ei=uFYVQ9HFNJesYd6a6eAI | 09:05 |
| rob^ | ;) | 09:06 |
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| === Whistler need only $1,299.00 | ||
| rob^ | they can help you | 09:11 |
| StrikeForce_work | lol | 09:15 |
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| sivang | ibook runs breezy ok now? | 09:24 |
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| jtan325 | i've never spammed, and I don't think this counts as spam, but I would like to advertise a little program that I work on the dev team for. Conky 1.3.0, released literally within the past hour, is out and about. find it at http://conky.sf.net . there's a debian package now too, made by yours truly, with the help of many kind folks in here. conky is a lightweight system monitor for X, based on the now-defunct torsmo program | 09:25 |
| Treenaks | thanks for the spam. Please use freshmeat.net | 09:26 |
| StrikeForce_work | lol | 09:26 |
| StrikeForce_work | so well put | 09:26 |
| jtan325 | haha. we'll keep freshmeat in mind for 2.x | 09:27 |
| rob^ | heh | 09:27 |
| StrikeForce_work | has anyone got mythmusic to compile in breezy? | 09:27 |
| rob^ | will be fixed soon | 09:27 |
| jtan325 | please check it out though, it's cool :-) | 09:27 |
| rob^ | and you mean rhythmbox, right? | 09:27 |
| StrikeForce_work | you working on it rob^ ? | 09:27 |
| rob^ | no, but the person who is said the fix should be done and uploaded within the hour | 09:27 |
| StrikeForce_work | no the package mythmusic thats got unmet deps? | 09:27 |
| StrikeForce_work | ahh k | 09:27 |
| StrikeForce_work | I'll have to take a look because I'm ready to use my computer as an anchor at the moment :( | 09:28 |
| rob^ | why don't you try a mythtv based distro? | 09:29 |
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| ivoks | morning | 09:29 |
| StrikeForce_work | rob^: why i don't want to use it I'm just helping with the unmet deps or trying to | 09:30 |
| StrikeForce_work | morning ivoks | 09:30 |
| rob^ | ah | 09:30 |
| StrikeForce_work | the only errors I'm getting are mysql based ones? | 09:30 |
| StrikeForce_work | so hence I'm getting confused in it so when he/she uploads it I wanna have a look | 09:31 |
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| ivoks | am...hm... | 09:52 |
| ivoks | security personal? :) | 09:52 |
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| ajmitch | uh oh | 10:12 |
| ajmitch | what have you broken now? :) | 10:12 |
| ivoks | hi ajmitch | 10:12 |
| ivoks | i fixed sec. issue in openvpn (4 issues) | 10:13 |
| ajmitch | ooh | 10:13 |
| ivoks | needs upload | 10:13 |
| ajmitch | yep | 10:14 |
| ivoks | www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/openvpn-20050831.diff | 10:14 |
| ivoks | that's for hoary | 10:15 |
| ivoks | not breezy | 10:15 |
| ajmitch | 404 | 10:15 |
| ivoks | breezy has newer version | 10:15 |
| ivoks | pl now | 10:15 |
| === ajmitch still don't see it :) | ||
| ivoks | reload :) | 10:16 |
| ajmitch | ok, finally.. | 10:16 |
| ajmitch | so you patched the source directly? | 10:17 |
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| ivoks | yes, dpatch confused... | 10:17 |
| ivoks | you can do it right, if you have time.. | 10:17 |
| ivoks | http://openvpn.net/patch/2.0.1-security-patches/ - 2.0 patches could be applied on hoary's 1.9 version | 10:18 |
| ivoks | there is just failed hunk (inside a comment) | 10:18 |
| ivoks | i'm in a hury | 10:19 |
| ivoks | so... take care... | 10:19 |
| ajmitch | ok :) | 10:20 |
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| pef | hello | 10:44 |
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| jtan325 | hey ajmitch. remember the little program i was trying to package and kept bugging you with questions for? | 11:01 |
| ajmitch | yes | 11:01 |
| jtan325 | well thanks for the help. we finally released 1.3.0 a little over two hours ago, and it finally comes in a .deb package too :-) | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | great | 11:02 |
| jtan325 | working with an debian dev to submit to debian repos for review, then siretart said i should ask him to ask for a sync | 11:03 |
| siretart | morning | 11:04 |
| siretart | jtan325: how is it called? | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | morning siretart | 11:04 |
| siretart | ajmitch! :) | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | siretart!! | 11:05 |
| jtan325 | morning siretart. you mean package name? it is conky_1.3.0-1 | 11:06 |
| jtan325 | or where you asking something else? | 11:06 |
| siretart | I see an ITP from Bjarke Bolding dated Aug 2 | 11:07 |
| siretart | do you know him? | 11:07 |
| jtan325 | ah no | 11:07 |
| jtan325 | i should email him huh | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | yes, certainly | 11:07 |
| ajmitch | as you should always have an ITP filed before working on a package :) | 11:08 |
| jtan325 | haha | 11:08 |
| jtan325 | well we wanted one available for this release | 11:08 |
| jtan325 | because it is the last release in the 1.x branch | 11:08 |
| jtan325 | we are overhauling the code for 2.x | 11:08 |
| ajmitch | what does it do? | 11:08 |
| siretart | he hasn't uploaded anything yet | 11:08 |
| jtan325 | well, if you guys aren't busy being motus and can spare a few minutes... :-) | 11:09 |
| siretart | so you should really contact and coordinate with him to avoid further confusion | 11:09 |
| jtan325 | http://conky.sf.net | 11:09 |
| jtan325 | it's a lightweight system monitor for X | 11:09 |
| jtan325 | descendant of the now-dead torsmo package | 11:09 |
| tseng | hah torsmo was elite | 11:09 |
| jtan325 | tseng, then conky is 1337 | 11:10 |
| tseng | rad | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | btw steps 2->4 for the debian install can be compressed to one | 11:10 |
| jtan325 | haha i know, i know | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | zcat /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz > ~/.conkyrc | 11:10 |
| jtan325 | lol yeah. just thought maybe the n00bs might learn something | 11:10 |
| jtan325 | if i did it the long way :-) | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | hah | 11:10 |
| ajmitch | they don't learn, they cut & paste | 11:11 |
| tseng | if they are reading debian/rules | 11:11 |
| tseng | they should know zcat | 11:11 |
| jtan325 | sure thing | 11:11 |
| jtan325 | if you guys try conky out and run into problems and need help, let me know or try #conky, there's usually someone around | 11:12 |
| jtan325 | oh yeah, one question: do you guys know what library Xdbe is in? | 11:13 |
| jtan325 | because apparently my packaging has a deps problem, so the deb. dev and i are trying to figure out whre Xdbe is | 11:13 |
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| Lathiat | ajmitch: ok duder | 12:49 |
| Lathiat | ajmitch: ross' debs are done | 12:49 |
| Lathiat | ajmitch: all up to date etc | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | sweet | 12:49 |
| Lathiat | ajmitch: http://www.burtonini.com/debian/breezy/ | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | how much MOTUness you have at the moment? you went thru TB, right? | 12:50 |
| Lathiat | no | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | ah | 12:50 |
| Lathiat | i have to wait till next week to do that | 12:50 |
| Lathiat | i didnt know ic ould do it beforehand... | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | ok, should I try & get another MOTU to rubberstamp this? | 12:52 |
| Lathiat | yeh | 12:53 |
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| === mbreit is around... | ||
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| ajmitch | mbreit: great | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | http://www.burtonini.com/debian/breezy/ | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | :) | 12:56 |
| tseng | im reading it | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | thanks tseng | 12:56 |
| mbreit | ajmitch: i am not in the universe keyring right now... | 12:56 |
| Nafallo | wow | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | mbreit: doesn't matter | 12:56 |
| Nafallo | my trashapplet is back :-) | 12:56 |
| tseng | it works for me, besides i thought we were at no NEW packages | 12:56 |
| tseng | +# postinst script for avai | 12:57 |
| tseng | theres a typo | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | tseng: ogra is letting this one through, I asked him | 12:57 |
| tseng | but who cares | 12:57 |
| tseng | not I | 12:58 |
| ogra | but elmo probably ;) | 12:58 |
| tseng | meh | 12:58 |
| tseng | its in the init script | 12:58 |
| tseng | he wotn even notice | 12:58 |
| mbreit | tseng: we are at "don't waste you time creating new packages, but finished packages can still be uploaded" iirc ;) | 12:58 |
| tseng | i see | 12:58 |
| tseng | monopod? :P | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | besides, avahi is good crack | 12:59 |
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| ogra | tseng, you wont belive what elmo looks at if he checks... but lets test it :) | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | it's on REVU, we could beg ogra ;) | 12:59 |
| mbreit | tseng, ajmitch: i would review monopod but as you know, it does not work on amd64 :( | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | mbreit: no, I didn't know that | 01:00 |
| ajmitch | I had been using it | 01:00 |
| ogra | as long as no work has to go in, it should be fine for upload, but that doesnt look like | 01:00 |
| ajmitch | except it did want to download everything, every night | 01:00 |
| tseng | thats its job :) | 01:00 |
| ajmitch | I mean things that were already downloaded | 01:01 |
| ajmitch | and I'm on a 10GB data cap | 01:01 |
| StrikeForce | can I get someone to revu bittorrent and bittornado please :) | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | did bittornado really need changed? | 01:05 |
| Lathiat | yeh tis wxgtk dep is broken | 01:06 |
| ajmitch | I guess so, libwxgtk2.4-1python is installed on my box but no longer in the archive | 01:06 |
| Nafallo | StrikeForce: no ;-) | 01:07 |
| Nafallo | siretart: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO REVU? ;-) | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | they look ok.. | 01:07 |
| StrikeForce | Nafallo: ok let me have a look as to why | 01:07 |
| ajmitch | StrikeForce: looks good, I'll upload | 01:07 |
| StrikeForce | Nafallo: ok why Nafallo ? | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | Nafallo: what's broken? | 01:08 |
| StrikeForce | Nafallo: I can't see anything | 01:08 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 01:08 |
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| Nafallo | fixed | 01:08 |
| Nafallo | I got python errors for index.py | 01:08 |
| StrikeForce | Nafallo: I did initially as well just kept refreshing :P | 01:08 |
| Nafallo | siretart: forget that. dunno what happened :-P | 01:08 |
| Nafallo | StrikeForce: so it wasn't just me. *puuh* | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | gah, revu moved, so my password isn't remembered | 01:09 |
| tseng | oops | 01:09 |
| tseng | ill have the same problem someday soon | 01:09 |
| StrikeForce | I changed my password | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | siretart: your recover password util rocks, btw ;) | 01:11 |
| ajmitch | StrikeForce: forget that, I'll have to ask ogra to review & upload these :) | 01:13 |
| ajmitch | or someone else who can upload to main | 01:13 |
| StrikeForce | ajmitch: huh? | 01:13 |
| StrikeForce | ajmitch: does that mean I stuffed up? | 01:14 |
| ajmitch | it means that the packages are in main, not universe | 01:14 |
| StrikeForce | oh ok | 01:14 |
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| ajmitch | hey \sh | 01:29 |
| ajmitch | so should I list all my uploads on my wiki page? ;) | 01:29 |
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| Nafallo | ajmitch: yes :-) | 01:30 |
| Nafallo | hehe | 01:30 |
| \sh | hey guys | 01:31 |
| \sh | lunch break | 01:31 |
| Nafallo | \sh: morning :-) | 01:31 |
| sivang | ajmitch: when is TB ? | 01:32 |
| ajmitch | sivang: next week | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | 6 sep, 20:00 UTC | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | 8AM for me :) | 01:33 |
| ajmitch | ah, it's already on my calendar, good.. | 01:33 |
| \sh | going agian...cu | 01:35 |
| slomo | good morning | 01:40 |
| slomo | Nafallo: ping? | 01:40 |
| ajmitch | morning slomo | 01:40 |
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| Nafallo | slomo: pong :-) | 01:40 |
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| slomo | Nafallo: did you polish the mplayer package already? ;) | 01:41 |
| Nafallo | slomo: tsss, I went to bed and then haven't woke up yet ;-) | 01:42 |
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| siretart | ajmitch: recovering works again? | 01:52 |
| ajmitch | siretart: hm? | 01:53 |
| siretart | ajmitch: yesterday, mbreit told me it was broken | 01:53 |
| ajmitch | 'it'? | 01:53 |
| siretart | lostpw.py. aah now I understand | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | ah, right.. ;) | 01:54 |
| siretart | nothing is broken mbreit confused me, that all ;) | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | yes, it gave me the gpg output that I could decrypt | 01:54 |
| slomo | hi siretart :) | 01:54 |
| siretart | huhu slomo | 01:54 |
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| siretart | ajmitch: well, in fact, I was too lazy to look up how I could send an email. I was interested in how popen works in python, anyway. thats the background of lostpw.py ;) | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | aha | 01:56 |
| ajmitch | sending email is very simple :) | 01:56 |
| siretart | I'm absolutly sure it is | 01:58 |
| siretart | popen is simple as well ;) | 01:58 |
| mbreit | siretart: it WAS broken yesterday.... | 01:59 |
| siretart | mbreit: what did you use as email address? | 02:00 |
| siretart | mbreit: if you enter an email with no key associated then the output will be empty. that right | 02:00 |
| mbreit | siretart: the email adress was right | 02:01 |
| mbreit | siretart: it worked again yesterday evening | 02:01 |
| mbreit | siretart: with the same mail adress | 02:01 |
| siretart | mbreit: hmm.. then somethins weird is going on :) | 02:03 |
| siretart | something, even. | 02:03 |
| siretart | I hate this sun type 5 keyboards.. | 02:03 |
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| mbreit | siretart: i thought you fixed it.... | 02:04 |
| siretart | I had a look at the scripts, but I didn't remember something suspicous.. | 02:04 |
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| siretart | well, lets concentrate rather on revu2. and of course on remaining transistions | 02:05 |
| siretart | and malone bugs | 02:05 |
| siretart | *sigh* | 02:05 |
| ajmitch | yay! :) | 02:06 |
| ajmitch | don't worry, we've just a frantic few weeks until release, and then the cycle can begin all over again! | 02:06 |
| siretart | btw, what happened to j^'s network-manager package? will we include it in universe? | 02:07 |
| Lathiat_ | siretart: theres a big kaffufle over taht | 02:08 |
| Lathiat_ | theres some new canonical person working on it also for breezy+1 | 02:08 |
| ajmitch | who is working on it there? | 02:09 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: Diziet | 02:10 |
| ajmitch | ok | 02:11 |
| ajmitch | ah, ian jackson, thought it would be him | 02:11 |
| siretart | Lathiat_: I thought diziet said, he had no objections in having nm in universe | 02:11 |
| Lathiat_ | well im not sure what came of it | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | time for me to sleep, night all | 02:12 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: night mate :-) | 02:12 |
| siretart | gn8 ajmitch | 02:13 |
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| colin__ | ogra: hi | 02:23 |
| colin__ | (others, hi too) | 02:23 |
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| ogra | hi colin__ | 02:25 |
| ogra | :) | 02:25 |
| colin__ | did your DSL problems get fixed? :) | 02:26 |
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| ivoks | hi | 02:27 |
| colin__ | I'm just dropping by to know what you thought about my mail (about sylpheed-claws) | 02:27 |
| ogra | half way.. i had a long outage tonight again | 02:27 |
| colin__ | heh | 02:27 |
| colin__ | that's painful :) | 02:27 |
| ivoks | ajmitch: did you import that fix or droped it? | 02:28 |
| ogra | colin__, i think it doesnt break anything, so its ok.... | 02:29 |
| colin__ | cool! good news :) | 02:29 |
| ivoks | ogra: there is security problem with openvpn in hoary | 02:29 |
| siretart | ogra! :) | 02:29 |
| colin__ | ogra: so what should I do ? | 02:30 |
| siretart | does anyone happen to know what happened to opera? i think it used to be in multiverse, iirc | 02:30 |
| ogra | ivoks, so ping pitti about it, or the MOTUSecurity team | 02:30 |
| ivoks | i did a fix allready... :) | 02:30 |
| ogra | siretart, not that i'm aware of | 02:30 |
| ogra | ivoks, great, give it to pitti or the MOTUSecurity team ;) | 02:31 |
| siretart | ivoks: can you mail the fix to security-review@lists.ubuntu.com? | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: kewl. mail the debdiff to security-review@l.u.c then :-) | 02:31 |
| ivoks | Nafallo: www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/openvpn-20050831.diff | 02:31 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: I'm not a mailing-list ;-) | 02:32 |
| ivoks | but you are in sec team :) | 02:32 |
| Nafallo | hehe, oki. I'll look at it :-P | 02:32 |
| ivoks | :) | 02:32 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: that changelog needs more work. something like: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/k/kismet/kismet_2005.08.R1-1ubuntu1/changelog | 02:34 |
| Nafallo | but then again, more info is that would be even greater :-) | 02:34 |
| Nafallo | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/b/bugzilla/bugzilla_2.16.5-2ubuntu0.2/changelog | 02:35 |
| Nafallo | that's a good one :-) | 02:35 |
| ivoks | uh :) | 02:36 |
| ivoks | i don't have time right now... | 02:37 |
| ivoks | i have exam tomorrow.. | 02:37 |
| slomo | ivoks: are these CAN fixed in 2.0? | 02:37 |
| ivoks | slomo: breezy has fixed version | 02:37 |
| slomo | ivoks: ok | 02:37 |
| slomo | ivoks: btw... did you hear something from mako or elmo? | 02:38 |
| ivoks | nope | 02:38 |
| ivoks | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=324167 | 02:38 |
| ivoks | 2.0.2-1 is fixed version | 02:38 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: looks good except the changelog ;-) | 02:38 |
| ivoks | damn... 2.0 is unfixed too | 02:39 |
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| ivoks | Nafallo: feel free to change it, breezy's openvpn needs fixing too (sorry for misleading informations) | 02:39 |
| ivoks | or sync from debian | 02:39 |
| slomo | ivoks: yeah... sync from debian would be the best i think ;) | 02:40 |
| ivoks | well, i can't do that, so... :) | 02:40 |
| ivoks | slomo: it turns out that my PGP key is broken (?) | 02:40 |
| ivoks | slomo: GPG gurus are checking what's could be an issue... | 02:41 |
| slomo | ivoks: sure you can... just ping elmo to do a sync :) no need for upload rights | 02:41 |
| slomo | ivoks: uh... :( | 02:41 |
| slomo | ivoks: how did you notice that your key is broken? | 02:45 |
| ivoks | Severity: grave | 02:45 |
| ivoks | according to Debian :) | 02:45 |
| ivoks | slomo: i reported a bug to launchpad | 02:46 |
| ivoks | slomo: they had some issues and didn't know how to reproduce it | 02:46 |
| ivoks | slomo: it turns out, my fingerprint was creating that issues :) | 02:46 |
| ivoks | slomo: after debuging conclusion was that this is material for gpg gurus :) | 02:47 |
| ivoks | so... here I am :) | 02:47 |
| ivoks | ok, i'm out of here | 02:50 |
| ivoks | i hope elmo isn't ignoring me | 02:50 |
| ivoks | i just never get any feedback from him :/ | 02:50 |
| slomo | dito... but normally he does syncs silently... when you write him a mail about the sync you'll get a "done" mail as reply ;) | 02:51 |
| ivoks | :) | 02:51 |
| slomo | but just wait for breezy-changes to list openvpn :) | 02:51 |
| ivoks | ok.. | 02:52 |
| ivoks | got to go... | 02:52 |
| ivoks | bye | 02:52 |
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| Mitario | hello hello | 02:58 |
| Treenaks | Mitario: hey | 02:59 |
| Treenaks | Mitario: you needed your key signed? :) | 02:59 |
| slomo | hi Mitario :) | 03:00 |
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| Mitario | Treenaks, no, not anymore :) but thanks anyways, and.. I'll sign your key at some meeting or something :p | 03:10 |
| Mitario | slomo, any response from elmo yet? :) | 03:10 |
| slomo | no :( | 03:10 |
| Mitario | k | 03:11 |
| Mitario | btw, anyone knows a way to repartition and resize stuff? | 03:11 |
| Mitario | does gparted do that? | 03:11 |
| slomo | probably | 03:12 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:16 |
| Mitario | hi bddebian | 03:17 |
| bddebian | Hello Mitario | 03:17 |
| slomo | aaah... where is nafallo?! :( | 03:24 |
| Mitario | (behind you) | 03:28 |
| Mitario | hmm is there a 'universe/motu discussion' list? | 03:29 |
| Mitario | except -devel.. | 03:29 |
| slomo | hmm... ogra? do we also sync automatically from 3rd party repositories like marillat's? | 03:30 |
| bddebian | Heya slomo | 03:31 |
| slomo | hi bddebian :) | 03:31 |
| ogra | slomo, not automatically | 03:32 |
| slomo | ogra: ok, thanks :) because we have 3 packages rewritten which shoudln't be synced from him | 03:34 |
| ogra | if they have ubuntuX versions that shouldnt be an issue anyway | 03:35 |
| slomo | oh... right... i haven't thought of that ;) | 03:35 |
| tseng | holy blog spam batman | 03:37 |
| slomo | ? | 03:38 |
| tseng | i just got 5 at once | 03:38 |
| slomo | spam comments in your blog? online casino and the like? ;) | 03:38 |
| tseng | holy crap | 03:39 |
| tseng | more than 5 | 03:39 |
| tseng | yeah that stuff | 03:39 |
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| slomo | hehe... these were the only comments i got so far ;) | 03:39 |
| tseng | "9 comments marked as spam" | 03:39 |
| tseng | slomo: oh i get a bunch | 03:39 |
| tseng | slomo: you need to be on planet | 03:39 |
| slomo | hm but i don't have many ubuntu or linux specific posts ;) | 03:41 |
| Treenaks | neither do I :P | 03:42 |
| slomo | tseng: btw... you need this wordpress audioscrobbler plugin :) | 03:44 |
| tseng | no i dont | 03:44 |
| tseng | i think its kind of crappy | 03:44 |
| slomo | lol... ok :) why? | 03:44 |
| tseng | do you have it on your site now? | 03:44 |
| tseng | i didnt like the output | 03:44 |
| slomo | yes... i have it almost since the beginning | 03:45 |
| tseng | lets see it | 03:45 |
| tseng | ogra: http://kerneltrap.org/node/5606 | 03:47 |
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| tseng | haha / activates Find in firefox | 03:53 |
| tseng | that rocks | 03:53 |
| tseng | much faster than control f | 03:53 |
| ogra | sine 1.0 :) | 03:53 |
| ogra | since even | 03:53 |
| tseng | no one told me! | 03:53 |
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| Mitario | oh cool slang2 transition is complete too | 03:53 |
| ogra | wow, guys, you rock :) | 03:54 |
| Mitario | well the wiki page says so :) | 03:54 |
| ogra | as long as apt thinks the same, thats fine ;) | 03:55 |
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| Mitario | hi ivoks | 04:21 |
| ivoks | hi | 04:25 |
| bddebian | Heya ivoks | 04:30 |
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| bddebian | If I change a build-dep for wxwin2.4-headers, do I need both wx2.4-headers and wx-common or just wx2.4-headers? | 04:32 |
| ivoks | ? | 04:33 |
| bddebian | xmule currently build-deps on wxwin2.4-headers which is replaced by wx2.4-headers, wx-common | 04:34 |
| Mitario | afaik just wx2.4headers | 04:34 |
| ivoks | hm... | 04:36 |
| ivoks | both | 04:36 |
| bddebian | Grr | 04:36 |
| Mitario | oh both? | 04:36 |
| Mitario | sorry :) | 04:36 |
| bddebian | :-) | 04:36 |
| ivoks | bddebian: check wich files you need for build | 04:37 |
| ivoks | maybe you don't need both | 04:37 |
| bddebian | ivoks: HOw do I do that? | 04:37 |
| ivoks | don't install any of those two | 04:37 |
| bddebian | Hmm | 04:38 |
| bddebian | OK | 04:38 |
| ivoks | try to compile | 04:38 |
| ivoks | and then every file it will miss search with apt-file search | 04:39 |
| pef | juste a little question in english, since I'm not very fluent, I've updated a debian/rules file by cutting down its size by 2, how should I tell that in changelog ? | 04:41 |
| ivoks | well... "cleaning up debhelper scripts" | 04:43 |
| pef | thank you ! | 04:46 |
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| Mitario | any motu's who can sponsor me? | 04:51 |
| ivoks | :) | 04:52 |
| xhaker | hello all | 04:52 |
| Mitario | hi xhaker | 04:52 |
| bddebian | Hello xhaker | 04:56 |
| ivoks | nice :) | 05:00 |
| ivoks | http://no-name-yet.com | 05:00 |
| ivoks | even better www.no-name-yet.com :) | 05:01 |
| ogra | oh, that still exists ? | 05:01 |
| ogra | i thought it was shut down long ago | 05:02 |
| ivoks | yep :) | 05:02 |
| highvoltage | i hope they keep it up, for historical purposes. | 05:02 |
| highvoltage | i remember the first time i heard that mark was going to release a linux distribution, it was very exciting. | 05:02 |
| Mitario | heh I didn't even know mark at that time | 05:07 |
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| bddebian | I still don't "know" Mark :-) | 05:09 |
| Mitario | heh | 05:09 |
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| pef | siretart: hi, I often have "TypeError: this constructor takes no arguments", is it a feature ? ;) | 05:26 |
| pef | siretart: on revu of course | 05:27 |
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| pef | if a motu has some free time, please review this package http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=522 | 05:37 |
| pef | thanks ! | 05:37 |
| bddebian | What should we do if there is a newer revision of something in Debian but it's on UniverseUnmetDeps? In this case vipec. | 05:38 |
| Mitario | siretart, ping | 05:38 |
| Mitario | bddebian, are the unmetdeps being fixed with the debian merge? | 05:40 |
| bddebian | Mitario: Actually it has FTBFS problems with gcc4 | 05:41 |
| Mitario | hmmmm i thought you could ask for a merge from elmo but i'm not totally sure :S | 05:41 |
| Mitario | ajmitch, ? | 05:41 |
| Mitario | ajmitch always knows these kind of things :) | 05:41 |
| bddebian | ajmitch is MOTUIC? | 05:43 |
| bddebian | No one else knows??? | 05:45 |
| tseng | whats the question? | 05:46 |
| tseng | i see several | 05:46 |
| bddebian | What should we do if there is a newer revision of something in Debian but it's on UniverseUnmetDeps? In this case vipec. | 05:47 |
| tseng | we arent syncing new revisions from debian | 05:47 |
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| tseng | unless it does something to fix unmet deps/ | 05:47 |
| tseng | whats the rationale | 05:47 |
| bddebian | Well you can't fix an unmet dep if you can't build it ;-) | 05:47 |
| tseng | oh | 05:47 |
| Lathiat_ | bddebian: so it has gcc4 problems too? | 05:47 |
| bddebian | Lathiat_: Yes | 05:48 |
| Lathiat_ | if so, it should probably be synced | 05:48 |
| Mitario | bddebian, you could apply a patch | 05:48 |
| Lathiat_ | is it a nwe version? | 05:48 |
| Lathiat_ | or just a new revision? | 05:48 |
| Mitario | (to fix the gcc4 errors) | 05:48 |
| bddebian | Mitario: Aye but if it's already fixed in Debian, why do it? | 05:48 |
| Lathiat_ | Mitario: its nicer to sync, makes merging later easier... | 05:48 |
| bddebian | Lathiat_: -4 vs -3 | 05:48 |
| Mitario | bddebian, UVFS :) | 05:48 |
| Lathiat_ | bddebian: then thatd probably be ok, but i'd check with one of the other MOTUs first | 05:48 |
| siretart | Mitario: pong | 05:49 |
| Mitario | siretart, hey, can you add me to revu when I click 'send'? :) | 05:49 |
| bddebian | tseng: See, I try to help.. :'-( | 05:49 |
| siretart | send? | 05:49 |
| siretart | huh? | 05:49 |
| Mitario | siretart, (in evolution) | 05:49 |
| tseng | if its jsut a gcc fix | 05:49 |
| tseng | sync it | 05:49 |
| tseng | (after testing) | 05:49 |
| siretart | Mitario: ah, you want your key in the keyring? | 05:50 |
| bddebian | tseng: HOw do I get it synced? | 05:50 |
| tseng | mail elmo | 05:50 |
| Mitario | siretart, yes, and a reviewer account :) | 05:50 |
| === bddebian wants to kill himself | ||
| Mitario | bddebian, ask elmo :) | 05:51 |
| Mitario | iirc | 05:51 |
| pef | where can I find a personn in the "strongset" for signing my key ? | 05:51 |
| tseng | pef: biglumber.com | 05:51 |
| slomo | pef: biglumber for example | 05:51 |
| === pef can helps bddebian | ||
| bddebian | pef: In here or a DD or biglumber :-) | 05:51 |
| pef | this needs a physical contact, right ? | 05:52 |
| bddebian | pef: Help me what, kill myself | 05:52 |
| bddebian | :-) | 05:52 |
| slomo | Mitario: any answer from mako or elmo? | 05:52 |
| Mitario | slomo, not yet :( | 05:52 |
| pef | bddebian: yes, but mmm I'm too far :/ | 05:52 |
| siretart | Mitario: done | 05:52 |
| Mitario | siretart, thanks :) | 05:52 |
| slomo | Mitario: maybe we should visit them ;) | 05:53 |
| siretart | Mitario: I added your key, please upload something to review to get a account created | 05:53 |
| Mitario | sladen, yeah you have a ticket to UK/australia? :D | 05:53 |
| siretart | err wait | 05:54 |
| siretart | I can do that by hand.. | 05:54 |
| siretart | Mitario: try to recover your password | 05:54 |
| slomo | Mitario: not sladen :P | 05:54 |
| Mitario | pff indeed ;) | 05:54 |
| Mitario | siretart, allright | 05:54 |
| slomo | Mitario: but i don't have one... but afaik they're both in the USA? | 05:55 |
| Mitario | oooh | 05:55 |
| slomo | Mitario: but that doesn't make it easier ;) | 05:55 |
| Mitario | slomo, heh :) | 05:55 |
| Mitario | siretart, ehm 'Now paste the text below?' | 05:56 |
| siretart | Mitario: your login is: michiel@eyesopened.nl | 05:57 |
| Mitario | yeah | 05:57 |
| Mitario | siretart, but at the 'recover' page I don't get an encrypted pass | 05:58 |
| bddebian | tseng: Do you know if he prefers e-mail or ping on IRC? | 05:58 |
| Mitario | just type this command: gpg -d <<EOT | 05:58 |
| Mitario | and then, paste the text below | 05:58 |
| siretart | indeed | 05:59 |
| Mitario | problem is, there's no text below ;) | 06:00 |
| Treenaks | Mitario: does gpg -d give you something? | 06:00 |
| Mitario | Treenaks, yeah, a stdin | 06:00 |
| Treenaks | Mitario: give it an encrypted message | 06:00 |
| Mitario | which encrypted message? | 06:01 |
| Treenaks | Mitario: that will (when decrypted) show the indicated text | 06:01 |
| Mitario | Treenaks, yes I know :) | 06:01 |
| Treenaks | Mitario: so what's the problem? :) | 06:01 |
| Mitario | Treenaks, the encrypted message didn't appear to recover my pass, but siretart now fixed it | 06:01 |
| siretart | it does now? | 06:02 |
| === siretart confused again | ||
| siretart | Mitario: does your pw work after all? | 06:02 |
| Mitario | hmm, gpg -d doesn't return a password at all | 06:03 |
| Mitario | it returns to stdout? | 06:03 |
| Mitario | ooooh | 06:04 |
| Mitario | wait, missed the missing \n | 06:04 |
| Mitario | siretart, allright works now :) | 06:04 |
| siretart | Mitario: these are the things I want to do better in revu2 ;) | 06:05 |
| Mitario | code it in ruby ;-) | 06:05 |
| === Mitario ducks | ||
| siretart | Mitario: you are welcome to contribute: http://revu.tauware.de/trac | 06:05 |
| Mitario | btw what's the adv of using dput over dupload? | 06:07 |
| siretart | none. | 06:07 |
| siretart | I like the syntax of dput better | 06:07 |
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| Mitario | ah | 06:07 |
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| === Mitario dputs a test package | ||
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| Mitario | hrm, how do I generate .changes from a source package | 06:11 |
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| slomo | Mitario: dpkg-buildpackage or debuild | 06:13 |
| Mitario | yeah but that makes me compile the package :) | 06:14 |
| bddebian | How else would you have any changes? :-) | 06:14 |
| Mitario | oh changes is per binary package of course :) | 06:14 |
| Mitario | no it isn't :/ | 06:14 |
| Mitario | well if you dpkg-buildpackage -S for instance, it doesn't generate changes | 06:15 |
| slomo | Mitario: dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa for example | 06:15 |
| Mitario | aaah | 06:15 |
| Mitario | right | 06:15 |
| Mitario | danke :) | 06:15 |
| slomo | Mitario: this creates changes... (and -sd instead of -sa when you don't want the original tarball to be included) | 06:15 |
| Mitario | allright :) | 06:16 |
| slomo | Mitario: you can speak german? or just some words? ;) | 06:16 |
| Mitario | well, i speak more than 'some words', but i'm not native if that's what you mean :) | 06:17 |
| slomo | Mitario: ok, we better stay with english then ;) | 06:18 |
| Nafallo | hmm | 06:19 |
| Mitario | slomo, try me ;-) | 06:19 |
| Nafallo | food, sleep or leisure? ;-) | 06:20 |
| slomo | Nafallo: ah, there you are again :) let's finish mplayer today ;) | 06:20 |
| slomo | Nafallo: and i think the liba52 segfault is related to this cvs version... let's see whether it disappears with the try2 | 06:20 |
| Nafallo | slomo: that's food and coffeine then ;-). brb. | 06:22 |
| === Nafallo gone fixing food :-P | ||
| pef | slomo: hi | 06:23 |
| slomo | Nafallo: ok =) | 06:23 |
| slomo | pef: hi :) | 06:23 |
| pef | slomo: can you have a look at coccinella on revu ? you already advocated it, it's a new upstream version(and debian/rules is twice smaller :] | 06:25 |
| slomo | pef: twice smaller? cdbs? ;) | 06:25 |
| slomo | pef: but sure... i'll do | 06:25 |
| pef | slomo: no, better usage of loops ;) | 06:25 |
| pef | and I've deleted configure stuff target, useless for scripts | 06:26 |
| slomo | pef: ok :) | 06:27 |
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| slomo | oh no... galeon crashed :( | 06:29 |
| slomo | pef: and it's your fault ;P the debdiff was too big for the ram ;) | 06:30 |
| slomo | pef: hmm... 686... does it run on something lower? | 06:33 |
| pef | slomo: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), I think yes, but I will ask to people on forum (can't test at home) | 06:35 |
| pef | the .so files | 06:35 |
| slomo | pef: ok... i don't know whether we have some policies for such things ;) | 06:36 |
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| bddebian | Damn, why do I even bother looking at fscking C++ code :'-( | 06:43 |
| slomo | bddebian: ? | 06:43 |
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| bddebian | slomo: Looking at some of my FTBFS problems :-( | 06:43 |
| Mitario | bddebian, tried google? :) | 06:44 |
| Mitario | I just found a few FTBFS packages on google :) | 06:45 |
| Mitario | just by searching for one line of the error message | 06:45 |
| slomo | bddebian: or look debian bts or gentoo for fixes ;) | 06:45 |
| bddebian | BTS doesn't have anything | 06:45 |
| bddebian | Nor does google | 06:48 |
| slomo | what package? | 06:48 |
| bddebian | tyvis | 06:48 |
| slomo | bddebian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=tyvis | 06:49 |
| slomo | bddebian: http://packages.qa.debian.org is useful for such things :) | 06:50 |
| bddebian | slomo: That isn't the error I'm getting. I knew about that one | 06:50 |
| slomo | bddebian: oh... sorry then :( | 06:50 |
| bddebian | NP :-) | 06:50 |
| slomo | bddebian: can you paste the error somewhere? | 06:53 |
| bddebian | bah, whats the damn pastebin url? | 06:55 |
| slomo | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ | 06:55 |
| bddebian | Ah, I didn't have the linux part :-) | 06:55 |
| slomo | or paste.debian.net ;) | 06:55 |
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| bddebian | http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1770 | 06:57 |
| slomo | ok, i'll take a look... but don't expect too much ;) i don't like c++ | 06:59 |
| bddebian | Who does besides jbailey?? ;-P | 06:59 |
| slomo | hm, i thought he is a C guy ;) | 07:00 |
| bddebian | Jeff knows everything ;-) | 07:00 |
| slomo | bddebian: hmm... i have an other line 107 than you ;) | 07:00 |
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| SloMo_ | bddebian: hmm... i have an other line 107 than you ;) | 07:03 |
| bddebian | great | 07:03 |
| slomo | lol | 07:04 |
| slomo | what is this LONG thing? | 07:05 |
| bddebian | No freaking clue :-) | 07:06 |
| slomo | hrm | 07:08 |
| slomo | ok ;) | 07:08 |
| bddebian | I'm a dumbass remember :) | 07:12 |
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| slomo | siretart: oh nice... our current non-marillat ffmpeg seems to be broken for ac3 decoding... marillat one's work... i hope mdz will answer my mail before breezy ;) | 07:16 |
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| pef | bye ! | 07:27 |
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| ivoks | hi | 08:08 |
| ivoks | any motu around here? | 08:10 |
| Mitario | uploader? :p | 08:11 |
| ivoks | yep | 08:11 |
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| ivoks | ok... issue around my key is solved | 08:16 |
| bddebian | ivoks: Cool | 08:17 |
| slomo | ivoks: how? | 08:17 |
| bddebian | ivoks: What was up with the launchpad thing? | 08:17 |
| ivoks | i turns out launchpad doesn't support sing-only keys | 08:17 |
| ivoks | those are keys without subkey | 08:17 |
| bddebian | Ahhh | 08:17 |
| ivoks | (you can't encrypt with it) | 08:18 |
| ivoks | that will be fixed, but i will have to wait for one more month :) | 08:18 |
| Mitario | ivoks email mako with the CoC? :) | 08:20 |
| ivoks | i allready did | 08:20 |
| ivoks | now, any uploader here? | 08:22 |
| ivoks | we have a security bugs in openvpn :/ | 08:23 |
| ivoks | seriuos! :) | 08:24 |
| slomo | ivoks: was already uploaded by mdz | 08:24 |
| slomo | ivoks: warty and hoary pending | 08:24 |
| ivoks | slomo: for hoary and warty? | 08:24 |
| ivoks | ok | 08:24 |
| ivoks | great news | 08:31 |
| ivoks | imho, swf-player should Conflict with flashplugin-nonfree | 08:32 |
| ivoks | anyone to discuss this with me? | 08:34 |
| ivoks | no one? ok... | 08:35 |
| slomo | hehe... seems like everyone is dead today ;) | 08:35 |
| bddebian | I'm just st00pid and can't seem to fix anything.. :'-( | 08:35 |
| Mitario | hmm, revu, are packages beining uploaded automatically if it gets advocated twice? | 08:37 |
| slomo | Mitario: no :/ | 08:37 |
| Mitario | oki :) | 08:37 |
| ivoks | ok, guys... | 08:42 |
| Mitario | yeah? | 08:42 |
| ivoks | anyone against making swf-player conflicts flashplugin-nonfree? | 08:42 |
| === bddebian could care less :-) | ||
| ivoks | bddebian: you mean couldn't? :) | 08:42 |
| bddebian | Bah :-) | 08:43 |
| Mitario | ivoks, are there file conflicts? | 08:43 |
| ivoks | Mitario: no, but there is an issue in firefox/mozilla | 08:43 |
| ivoks | nonfree is plugin that works | 08:43 |
| ivoks | while swf-player plugin doesn't work on all sites | 08:43 |
| Mitario | ah | 08:43 |
| ivoks | if you have both, mozilla will call swf-player | 08:43 |
| ivoks | not nonfree | 08:43 |
| Mitario | what happens if you install them both? | 08:44 |
| ivoks | just told you | 08:44 |
| ivoks | mozilla will call swf-player, not nonfree | 08:44 |
| Mitario | aah sorry | 08:44 |
| ivoks | and you wouldn't see some sites (americasarmy.com for example) | 08:44 |
| Mitario | but mozilla will work with nonfree? | 08:45 |
| ivoks | if swf-player is deinstalled, yes | 08:46 |
| Mitario | oki I think its fine then :) | 08:46 |
| Mitario | brb going to some pub | 08:54 |
| Mitario | bbiab | 08:54 |
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| bddebian | Is there not a PendingUpload status on bugzilla anymore?? | 10:34 |
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| bddebian | Ack, where the hell is everyone? :-) | 10:42 |
| slomo | bddebian: fixing stuff ;) | 10:42 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: humans :-) | 10:42 |
| bddebian | So how do I get merged packages uploaded now? | 10:44 |
| slomo | ask someone to upload it for you... Nafallo maybe | 10:45 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: where are they? :-) | 10:46 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: The merged version of diacanvas2 should be able to go up now | 10:47 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: ehm, REVU? | 10:48 |
| Nafallo | or where? :-) | 10:48 |
| bddebian | bugzilla :-) | 10:48 |
| Nafallo | ah | 10:48 |
| Nafallo | bugnumber? :-) | 10:48 |
| bddebian | https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12258 | 10:48 |
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| bddebian | Same for xcruise: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11957 | 10:53 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: so just upload the stuff from http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/diacanvas2/ ? | 10:53 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: Yep. I think you need to do a quick changelog entry??? | 10:53 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: seems like it | 10:55 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: next time you should have the changelog in your patch to :-). | 10:57 |
| bddebian | Why, I can't upload anyway.. :-) | 10:57 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: no, but then you get the credit on breezy-changes ;-) | 10:58 |
| Nafallo | if it's my key isn't the point ;-) | 10:58 |
| bddebian | Nafallo: I need credit? :-) | 11:02 |
| ajmitch | morning all | 11:02 |
| bddebian | ajmitch!! | 11:03 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: yes :-) | 11:06 |
| Nafallo | ajmitch: hi there :-) | 11:06 |
| Nafallo | bddebian: I hate diacanvas2 :-P | 11:06 |
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| Nafallo | bddebian: xcruise uploaded | 11:27 |
| ivoks | hi | 11:28 |
| Nafallo | ivoks: morning | 11:28 |
| ivoks | lol | 11:29 |
| ivoks | 'night | 11:29 |
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| Nafallo | bddebian: diacanvas2 uploaded | 11:40 |
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