[12:02] Opening audio decoder: [liba52] AC3 decoding with liba52 [12:02] AC3: 5.1 (3f+2r+lfe) 48000 Hz 384.0 kbit/s [12:02] MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio [12:02] ^^ stripped output from mplayer [12:02] sistpoty: ok, i'll put it on top of my todo list... after mplayer [12:02] slomo: you're my hero ;) [12:02] bradb: cheers === lamont bets he knows the mplayer issue, but waits until the computer finishes extracting the info he needs to verify it === prevod [i=prevod@147.91.175.46] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] slomo: bad build-depends [12:13] usr/include/X11/extensions/xf86dga.h x11proto-xf86dga-dev [12:13] lamont: isn't this libxxf86dga-dev? [12:13] so what that means is that Xorg split up more between your prior and most-recent uploads [12:13] npoe [12:13] nope, even [12:13] it's x11proto-xf86dga-dev [12:14] uh ok... but why did it work in my pbuilder then? :/ [12:14] so change libxxf86dga-dev to x11proto-xf86dga-dev and hope it works again? [12:14] libxxf86* would be from xfree86, dude [12:14] how clean is your pbuilder chroot, and how current are your sources? and is it purely breezy deb lines in sources.list? [12:15] lamont: it's completely clean, nothing except the stuff debootstrap put into... and i updated it just before trying mplayer === lsuactiafner [n=noirrac@tpc-ip-nas-1-p179.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === prevod [i=prevod@147.91.175.46] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:16] that is, the short answer to "why did it work in pbuilder but not the buildd?" is one of the following: (1) pbuilder chroot out of date, (2) pbuilder misconfigured, (3) differences between sbuild and pbuilder, and (4) (albeit rarely) someone uploaded a package that fails to remove correctly, and broke the sbuild chroot [12:17] the hint for (4) is that the log file claims that a package is already installed, and then later the build dies because a file _FROM_THAT_PACKAGE_ is missing [12:17] well, that's not so much a hint, as a smoking gun. :-) [12:18] lamont: ok thanks :) but i really believe that my pbuilder chroot is fine... well, i'll change that build-depend and try again :) [12:19] slomo: let me try it to ;-) [12:19] slomo: what should I do? :-) [12:19] Nafallo: lol... change libxxf86dga-dev to x11proto-xf86dga-dev in every control file and try it in your pbuilder ;) [12:19] gaah! [12:19] that's painful [12:20] sed is your friend :P [12:20] give me a debdiff? ;-) [12:20] sure... wait ;) [12:20] :-) [12:21] Nafallo: http://yggdrasil.sytes.net/files/debdiff/mplayer_1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu3.debdiff [12:22] hmm === Nafallo cuts out debian/control from that debdiff :-P [12:24] lol [12:24] do you want another upload with your name on it today? :P [12:24] hehe [12:24] ofcourse :-) [12:25] but the debdiff didn't apply ;-) [12:25] and it's not name, it's key :-) [12:27] sure but when you cut everything except the changelog it's also name :P [12:27] no [12:27] debian/control, not debian/control.* :-) [12:28] hmm... why did you cut debian/control? you need the control.amd64 file :P [12:29] cause you got another debian/control than I have? ;-) [12:29] why is that? [12:29] I'm on amd64 and you are on i386? :-) [12:30] the plain control file, without anything else is something we don't even use ;) [12:30] control.marillat for x86 and control.arch for every other arch [12:30] slomo: yea, check your debdiff mate ;-) [12:31] slomo: debian/control on yours expect the line Package: mplayer-386 [12:31] on my it's Package: mplayer-amd64 [12:31] so, that's a reject then :-P [12:32] oh ok... i hate this package ;) [12:32] hehe :-) [12:32] btw... FTBFS... vo_3dfx.c:(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `XF86DGADirectVideo' [12:32] i really hate this package :P [12:33] I got http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1753 again :-) [12:33] hrm [12:35] Nafallo: can you try to fix it? [12:36] slomo: apologies, I've had a high fever the past couple days. Will get to it tonight. [12:36] crimsun: not necessary anymore ;) Nafallo uploaded it already :) [12:36] ok [12:37] slomo: yes, you didn't patch control.amd64 ;-) [12:37] Nafallo: lol... you're right... this really isn't my day ;) [12:38] slomo: ehm... I can't find that build-dep either ;-) [12:38] Nafallo: ok, that's why sed didn't work then ;) throw some stone in marillat's direction :P [12:39] slomo: I'll add som build-deps first and foremost ;-) === dmk_ [n=dmk@host81-156-25-29.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikerhead [n=Mike@128.226.183.29] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dmk_ [n=dmk@host81-156-25-29.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [12:59] lamont: are you sure x11proto-xf86dga-dev is the right thing? it doesn't depend on anything which contains the dga library, only headers... so builds will fail [01:02] slomo: mplayer -vo help --> dga DGA ( Direct Graphic Access V2.0 )... not sure if the lib comes with mplayer however ;) [01:03] sistpoty: no... it's something shipped by X itself ;) [01:03] ok... thought that mplayer would also ship libdga or s.th. like it imo does with liba52 [01:04] right, DGA is an X* extension [01:04] crimsun: do you know the correct build-depend for packages depending on it? [01:05] libxxf86dga-dev? [01:05] sistpoty: lamont said this is deprecated by x11proto-xf86dga-dev... but this package doesn't pull the libs in (which are only in libxxf86dga1) [01:06] sistpoty: btw, is the a52dec problem only with mplayer or with our regular liba52? [01:07] slomo: hmm, sounds like something might be missing in the b-d. Try asking daniels when he's around [01:07] slomo: imo the prob is with mplayer only... i took a look at it once, and iirc mplayer ships its own liba52 [01:07] sistpoty: yes it ships it own... hm, can you try playing this video with gst-launch-ext-0.8 (after installing all gstreamer plugins ;) ) [01:08] slomo: sure... need to install gstreamer however ;) === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-074-244.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] sistpoty: having mplayer ship header files that rightfully belong to other libs is purely wrong and unsupportable [01:19] sounds like nvu :) [01:20] lamont: they only ship their own version of a complete library... not some random headers of something else [01:20] and do they ultimately really wind up linked to that lib, or to the other one? [01:22] looks like it uses a static one... [01:22] although, doesn't liba52.so depend on kernel interfaces? [01:23] lamont: no idea... at least mplayer is ugly ;) [01:23] well, it's b0rken for me on hoary... [01:23] nothing but segv. [01:24] hehe... it worked on breezy for a week now... at least for me ;) [01:24] and now this stupid thing don't want to be rebuilt... [01:24] slomo++ ;-) [01:24] hm... it ldd's on quite some stuff... i'll retry with the "original marillat"-version [01:25] sistpoty: did you try gstreamer? [01:25] slomo: didn't get it fully installed yet :/ [01:25] sistpoty: why? slow connection or something broken? [01:26] slomo: what do i need to install to get all plugins? gstreamer-plugins doesn't work === _derek__ [n=derek@pcp0011385359pcs.ebrnsw01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] sistpoty: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-pitfdll [01:27] sistpoty: then you have everything ;) [01:27] btw. mplayer-386 (1:1.0-pre7) on debian/sid(chroot) doesn't crash [01:28] *installing* [01:29] s/debian\/sid/debian\/unstable ;) [01:29] however not up to date ;) [01:29] compiled with gcc4 ? [01:31] slomo: pit what? :-) [01:31] Nafallo: pitfdll... windows dll loader plugin for gstreamer ;) [01:31] ogra: mplayer? dunno with what marillat compiled his debs [01:31] hehe, won't work on amd64 then :-P [01:31] siretart: computers probably :-) [01:32] hehe [01:32] I leave, good night ! (1:32apm here) === Nafallo grumbles [01:32] pef: see you tomorrow :-) [01:32] Nafallo: of course, I have something to upload ;) [01:32] gn8 pef [01:33] :-) [01:33] :) [01:35] slomo: gst-launch-ext-0.8 is working fine... [01:35] sistpoty: fine... at least something :) [01:35] :) [01:42] sistpoty: did you try the latest version by marillat on debian? [01:43] slomo: dunno... mom i'll check [01:45] slomo: this is the latest binary-version on "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main" [01:45] brb (smoking a cigarette) [01:46] sistpoty: 1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.2? === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] slomo: no, it's 1.0-pre7 [01:55] sistpoty: uhm... no: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/m/mplayer/ [01:56] slomo: was it you that was thinking of doing a thoggen package for breezy? [01:56] ryanthiessen: yes... or for breezy+1... why? [01:58] slomo: just got word from the developer, he's putting out a release and a new .deb next week, perhaps that could save some work [01:59] ryanthiessen: sure :) can you notify me when he released a new version? [01:59] slomo: will do [02:00] ryanthiessen: thanks :) but i think i'll package it myself and don't take his package [02:03] slomo: this is strange... i don't see a cvs...-0.2 binary there... there are mplayer-386_1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1_i386.deb and mplayer-386_1.0-pre7-0.2_i386.deb... which one to go? (i always get it wrong with versions *g*) [02:03] sistpoty: the 0.1 ;) [02:06] damn... to new for my unstable (either too new in general or i should upgrade about 150 packages...) [02:07] erm... 338 packages to update... I'll do this tomorrow and try again, ok? [02:07] ok, thanks :) [02:07] just notify me when you have some results [02:07] we should have a buildable mplayer package by then ;) [02:08] slomo: i will do, and good luck ;) === sistpoty is off to bed then... gn8 everyone [02:09] gn8 === remik [n=remik@xdsl-3144.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian hides from ajmitch === remik [n=remik@xdsl-3144.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] good night [02:33] gnight mbreit === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089F80C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] Damn, where is everyone? Hard at work? :-) [03:02] bddebian: yep :_) [03:02] :-) [03:03] Good man :-) [03:04] why would you hide from me, bddebian ? === bddebian isn't here [03:05] lol [03:05] ajmitch: Because I seem to frustrate you :-) [03:05] don't worry, I'll try to take it out on others ;) [03:06] Well I wish I understood better how to be more helpful :-( [03:08] you're doing ok [03:10] Yeah, I can tell :-) [03:11] I'm just the sort of person who's willing to critique others' work :) [03:12] it's the perfectionist in me that needs to be beaten down [03:12] Nah, that's a good thing :-) === zyga [n=zyga@chello084010207057.chello.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] I haven't even look at half the ones you said just needed a rebuild [03:14] That's OK, no one looks at my work.. ;-P [03:15] I'm noone now, am I? [03:15] You just said... :-) === torkel [i=torkel@69-188.umenet.t3.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] ajmitch: Do you have your FTBFS list? [03:18] I havent' grabbed the build logs to see if they are really FTBFS [03:19] ajmitch: If the package requires libmagick++6 but depends shlibs, it should resolve libmagick++6c2 on it's own right? [03:20] I guess [03:20] You guess? [03:20] yes, I'm just guessing there [03:25] bddebian: btw, don't bother with k3d [03:25] I've got to upload the patched pkg from Lathiat [03:26] I'm no where near the k's yet :-) [03:28] OK, postgresql-plruby depends postgresql (< 7.5). Should it depend postgresql-7.4 or be upgraded? [03:28] depends if it works with 8.0, and whether 7.4 or 8.0 is default [03:28] 7.5.8 is default [03:30] well, I guess you have to check if it works nicely with that :) [03:33] Bah I'll leave that for you MOTU types ;-P [03:33] yo [03:33] chillywilly!!!!!!! [03:34] bddebian: aren't you supposed to be one? [03:34] Uhm, polyxmass is an empty source package (meta package?) [03:34] bddebian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [03:34] ajmitch: Nope [03:34] bddebian: why not? [03:34] ajmitch: Why not, what? === chillywilly is drinking Sam Adams Octoberfest in anticipation of autumn :) [03:35] why aren't you a 'MOTU type' [03:35] <-- Is not an MOTU :-) [03:35] chillywilly: Nice [03:35] ajmitch: And isn't it obvious that I don't know much? :-) === ajmitch is sick of that === mikerhead [n=Mike@cpe-66-24-91-59.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:36] yea, that's a weak argument bddebian === chillywilly thwaps bddebian around some [03:36] chillywilly: What's a weak arguement? [03:36] are you watching the same channel as I am or are you just particularly dense tonight ;) === chillywilly hands bddebian a *virtual* beer === bddebian chugs it down [03:38] chillywilly: What you been up to man? I was in your neck of the woods last week [03:38] bah... [03:38] had a really busy weekend [03:39] practiced some more with the church band on friday night [03:39] Cool [03:39] then went to a music festival and was there all day saturday [03:39] ajmitch: Sick of what man? [03:39] then we had our church festival where we played live all day on Sunday [03:40] we rocked [03:40] Coolio [03:40] bddebian: sick of the "I'm so thick, not worthy to be a MOTU" sort of argument :) [03:40] I have some video...should upload it [03:41] ajmitch: That's not arguement, that's fact ;-P [03:41] gaah [03:41] ajmitch: Anyway, shouldn't a source meta package include all the packages? [03:41] mplayer just has to be the worst source in the archive ;-) [03:42] Nafallo, I don't understand why people like the application. It has a horrible interface and it sounds horrible to maintain [03:43] Burgundavia: it can play everything :-P [03:44] I'm rebuilding the package anyway ;-) [03:44] bddebian: depends, if it was merged into anoether === mikerhead [n=Mike@cpe-66-24-91-59.stny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:49] ajmitch: Well it looks wrong to me [03:49] people like mplayer because it is the swiss army knife of media players [03:49] imho [03:50] I think it's because it kinda sounds like Windows Media Player === bddebian ducks [03:50] err [03:50] xine has to be a close second though and then for UIs totem with the xine backend rules my world [03:50] it's because it's startup time is better than everything else [03:50] without gui it's pretty usable [03:51] and it's the fastest as far as I can tell [03:58] ajmitch: What do you think makes more sense. Plow through the rest of these packages making notes, or trying to fix the FTBFSs I find? [03:58] bddebian: so I take it you're going to fix all those ones that you've noted, since they're under your name? [04:00] ajmitch: I guess, though that wasn't necessarily my intention. I wanted to get through the "low hanging fruit" first, then go back to FTBFSs and other more difficult issues [04:00] some of us have already done a run through compiling the whole list :) === bmonty [n=bmontgom@12.41.191.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] Then why am I doing this? [04:02] for fame & glory, and the love of it all [04:07] I mean, manually going through the list? [04:09] for just that reason [04:10] But if you folks have already made lists and I'm expected to fix all that I find, what is the point? [04:14] just because I've built everything & have build logs doesn't mean I've checked all the dependencies yet [04:15] Well then I ask again, should I keep going through the list or fix what I have already found? :-) [04:16] fixing as you go tends to be a better way [04:21] OK [04:24] Hello, hello, hello! === jblack spins the bottle.. spin, spin spin [04:25] Hey ajmitch! What's up? [04:25] hi jblack [04:25] just doing some coding [04:25] watching irc, etc.. [04:26] Sounds like a dreamlife. :) [04:27] oh sure [04:28] Anyways, I'd like to grab those projects that you think could use baz of one incarnation of another. :) === ajmitch still needs to have more spare time for ubuntu [04:28] right.. [04:28] let me try & think which ones could benefit [04:30] Hello jblack [04:31] bddebian! What's up? [04:32] Just making ajmitch's life more difficult. :-) You? [04:32] Just making ajmitch's life more difficult. :-) [04:32] the world is against me.. [04:33] ajmitch: Nah, don't take it that way. If people are looking for you, that means you matter. [04:33] that's a novel way of looking at it :) [04:34] ajmitch: Bah, we love you man :-) [04:35] jblack: the 2 projects that I have contact with as a packager _might_ find it helpful, although they're fairly quiet [04:36] Thats a good thing then. They're not in a huge rush. They won't start screaming "We'll die if you don't fix this problem THIS VERY SECOND" [04:37] yeah [04:37] one uses cvs on savannah, the other svn on its own server [04:37] where developers have ssh access (including me) [04:38] Those are good targets. We have the tools to migrate them without loosing history. What are the names of the projects, if I may ask? [04:39] dotgnu portable.net (uses cvs), and gnu enterprise [04:39] they have very minimal use of branching/tagging [04:40] Those sound like they'd be pretty big. [04:41] pnet is ~1 million LOC [04:41] gnu enterprise isn't as big, but is comprised of a number of tools [04:47] Well the GCC4CommonProblems is a helpful page.. :-) [04:50] What is "invalid use of void expression" error? [04:52] Ok. I'll talk to the enterprise guys. Do you have any friends their? [04:52] yeah, jamest, jcater, reinhard in #gnuenterprise, or there's the mailing list [04:53] I'd better get onto their packaging ASAP though :) [04:53] since I was using it for a bzr experiment [04:53] Grin. :) [04:54] I like the idea of getting them to bzr and you packaging them. You can track their code much more easily [04:54] well it's not too hard already with svn [04:55] since I have commit access there [04:56] I think it would be cool to have them in bzr, so that everybody in the world has commit access. :) [04:59] sure, but I think something like PQM for bzr will be an important part for most people [05:01] true. In the meantime, though, multiple people can commit to one place. === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] so is baz marketing part of your work now? [05:03] Lets just say that I'm invested in getthing baz out to the general public. [05:04] A lot of people have worked on bazaar. It doesn't do anybody any good if its hidden in a clost. :) [05:04] *closet [05:07] it's a hot topic at the moment, which SCM to use [05:07] Visual Source Safe? === bddebian hides again [05:08] is it? Then lets jump on it. [05:09] If they're actively discussing this issue, then the mailing list is probably best. 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[07:43] i get * #ubuntu :Cannot send to channel [07:43] you probably have been banned [07:44] yep you have been [07:44] emm [07:44] its probably of my dynamic ip [07:45] no [07:45] ban is for my nick? [07:45] %Whistler!*@* [07:45] oh [07:46] i still dont get the reason of this [07:46] well either you, or someone using your nick was naughty in #ubuntu and got banned [07:47] talk to one of the ops to get the ban removed [07:47] theres no ops online [07:47] :D [07:48] well thx [07:48] :) === StrikeForce_work [n=marc@dsl-202-72-174-149.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:49] hey all [07:53] cany anyone tell me what package deals with the qsqldatabase? [07:55] can* === comadreja [n=comadrej@120.Red-81-36-28.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] anybody can recommend me vnc client? [08:20] sorry for askin here but i have ban in ubuntu chan [08:21] why do you have a ban? [08:21] sudo apt-cache search vnc [08:22] i dont know why [08:22] :( [08:28] Whistler: is your nick registered? [08:28] yep [08:28] never mind then :-) === mikerhead [n=Mike@cpe-66-24-91-59.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mikerhead [n=Mike@cpe-66-24-91-59.stny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:33] damn this mythmusic depends on a lot :( [08:33] I may as well download every single binary :P === rob^ looks up, yes he does [08:34] btw anyone wanna REVU bittorrent and bittornado please :) [08:42] Does predepends get installed prior to the installation of the main package? === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Whistler wants an ibook [09:05] we can't help you, see http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//www.eloan.com/&ei=uFYVQ9HFNJesYd6a6eAI [09:06] ;) === herzi [n=herzi@c138051.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Whistler need only $1,299.00 [09:11] they can help you [09:15] lol === doko [n=doko@dsl-084-059-074-244.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:24] ibook runs breezy ok now? === herz1 [n=herzi@d014147.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:25] i've never spammed, and I don't think this counts as spam, but I would like to advertise a little program that I work on the dev team for. Conky 1.3.0, released literally within the past hour, is out and about. find it at http://conky.sf.net . there's a debian package now too, made by yours truly, with the help of many kind folks in here. conky is a lightweight system monitor for X, based on the now-defunct torsmo program [09:26] thanks for the spam. Please use freshmeat.net [09:26] lol [09:26] so well put [09:27] haha. we'll keep freshmeat in mind for 2.x [09:27] heh [09:27] has anyone got mythmusic to compile in breezy? [09:27] will be fixed soon [09:27] please check it out though, it's cool :-) [09:27] and you mean rhythmbox, right? [09:27] you working on it rob^ ? [09:27] no, but the person who is said the fix should be done and uploaded within the hour [09:27] no the package mythmusic thats got unmet deps? [09:27] ahh k [09:28] I'll have to take a look because I'm ready to use my computer as an anchor at the moment :( [09:29] why don't you try a mythtv based distro? === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0933.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:29] morning [09:30] rob^: why i don't want to use it I'm just helping with the unmet deps or trying to [09:30] morning ivoks [09:30] ah [09:30] the only errors I'm getting are mysql based ones? [09:31] so hence I'm getting confused in it so when he/she uploads it I wanna have a look === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-125-083.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host58-59.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:52] am...hm... [09:52] security personal? :) === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0933.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks needs a MOTU with upload rights :) [10:12] uh oh [10:12] what have you broken now? :) [10:12] hi ajmitch [10:13] i fixed sec. issue in openvpn (4 issues) [10:13] ooh [10:13] needs upload [10:14] yep [10:14] www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/openvpn-20050831.diff [10:15] that's for hoary [10:15] not breezy [10:15] 404 [10:15] breezy has newer version [10:15] pl now === ajmitch still don't see it :) [10:16] reload :) [10:16] ok, finally.. [10:17] so you patched the source directly? === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] yes, dpatch confused... [10:17] you can do it right, if you have time.. [10:18] http://openvpn.net/patch/2.0.1-security-patches/ - 2.0 patches could be applied on hoary's 1.9 version [10:18] there is just failed hunk (inside a comment) [10:19] i'm in a hury [10:19] so... take care... [10:20] ok :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa67.0.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] hello === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] hey ajmitch. remember the little program i was trying to package and kept bugging you with questions for? [11:01] yes [11:02] well thanks for the help. we finally released 1.3.0 a little over two hours ago, and it finally comes in a .deb package too :-) [11:02] great [11:03] working with an debian dev to submit to debian repos for review, then siretart said i should ask him to ask for a sync [11:04] morning [11:04] jtan325: how is it called? [11:04] morning siretart [11:04] ajmitch! :) [11:05] siretart!! [11:06] morning siretart. you mean package name? it is conky_1.3.0-1 [11:06] or where you asking something else? [11:07] I see an ITP from Bjarke Bolding dated Aug 2 [11:07] do you know him? [11:07] ah no [11:07] i should email him huh [11:07] yes, certainly [11:08] as you should always have an ITP filed before working on a package :) [11:08] haha [11:08] well we wanted one available for this release [11:08] because it is the last release in the 1.x branch [11:08] we are overhauling the code for 2.x [11:08] what does it do? [11:08] he hasn't uploaded anything yet [11:09] well, if you guys aren't busy being motus and can spare a few minutes... :-) [11:09] so you should really contact and coordinate with him to avoid further confusion [11:09] http://conky.sf.net [11:09] it's a lightweight system monitor for X [11:09] descendant of the now-dead torsmo package [11:09] hah torsmo was elite [11:10] tseng, then conky is 1337 [11:10] rad [11:10] btw steps 2->4 for the debian install can be compressed to one [11:10] haha i know, i know [11:10] zcat /usr/share/doc/conky/examples/conkyrc.sample.gz > ~/.conkyrc [11:10] lol yeah. just thought maybe the n00bs might learn something [11:10] if i did it the long way :-) [11:10] hah [11:11] they don't learn, they cut & paste [11:11] if they are reading debian/rules [11:11] they should know zcat [11:11] sure thing [11:12] if you guys try conky out and run into problems and need help, let me know or try #conky, there's usually someone around [11:13] oh yeah, one question: do you guys know what library Xdbe is in? [11:13] because apparently my packaging has a deps problem, so the deb. dev and i are trying to figure out whre Xdbe is === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [n=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mbreit [n=mo@p54876C8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089EC9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] ajmitch: ok duder [12:49] ajmitch: ross' debs are done [12:49] ajmitch: all up to date etc [12:49] sweet [12:49] ajmitch: http://www.burtonini.com/debian/breezy/ [12:50] how much MOTUness you have at the moment? you went thru TB, right? [12:50] no [12:50] ah [12:50] i have to wait till next week to do that [12:50] i didnt know ic ould do it beforehand... [12:52] ok, should I try & get another MOTU to rubberstamp this? [12:53] yeh === ajmitch wonders if mbreit or any of the others who might be around, would like to take a look === mbreit is around... === Nafallo [n=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] mbreit: great [12:56] http://www.burtonini.com/debian/breezy/ [12:56] :) [12:56] im reading it [12:56] thanks tseng [12:56] ajmitch: i am not in the universe keyring right now... [12:56] wow [12:56] mbreit: doesn't matter [12:56] my trashapplet is back :-) [12:56] it works for me, besides i thought we were at no NEW packages [12:57] +# postinst script for avai [12:57] theres a typo [12:57] tseng: ogra is letting this one through, I asked him [12:57] but who cares [12:58] not I [12:58] but elmo probably ;) [12:58] meh [12:58] its in the init script [12:58] he wotn even notice [12:58] tseng: we are at "don't waste you time creating new packages, but finished packages can still be uploaded" iirc ;) [12:58] i see [12:59] monopod? :P [12:59] besides, avahi is good crack === ajmitch wanted to see monopod in [12:59] tseng, you wont belive what elmo looks at if he checks... but lets test it :) [12:59] it's on REVU, we could beg ogra ;) [12:59] tseng, ajmitch: i would review monopod but as you know, it does not work on amd64 :( [01:00] mbreit: no, I didn't know that [01:00] I had been using it [01:00] as long as no work has to go in, it should be fine for upload, but that doesnt look like [01:00] except it did want to download everything, every night [01:00] thats its job :) [01:01] I mean things that were already downloaded [01:01] and I'm on a 10GB data cap [01:02] can I get someone to revu bittorrent and bittornado please :) [01:05] did bittornado really need changed? [01:06] yeh tis wxgtk dep is broken [01:06] I guess so, libwxgtk2.4-1python is installed on my box but no longer in the archive [01:07] StrikeForce: no ;-) [01:07] siretart: WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO REVU? ;-) [01:07] they look ok.. [01:07] Nafallo: ok let me have a look as to why [01:07] StrikeForce: looks good, I'll upload [01:08] Nafallo: ok why Nafallo ? [01:08] Nafallo: what's broken? [01:08] Nafallo: I can't see anything [01:08] hmm === ajmitch only grabbed the .diff.gz & .dsc for each [01:08] fixed [01:08] I got python errors for index.py [01:08] Nafallo: I did initially as well just kept refreshing :P [01:08] siretart: forget that. dunno what happened :-P [01:09] StrikeForce: so it wasn't just me. *puuh* [01:09] gah, revu moved, so my password isn't remembered [01:09] oops [01:09] ill have the same problem someday soon [01:11] I changed my password [01:11] siretart: your recover password util rocks, btw ;) [01:13] StrikeForce: forget that, I'll have to ask ogra to review & upload these :) [01:13] or someone else who can upload to main [01:13] ajmitch: huh? [01:14] ajmitch: does that mean I stuffed up? [01:14] it means that the packages are in main, not universe [01:14] oh ok === ajmitch adds his name to the TB agenda [01:29] hey \sh [01:29] so should I list all my uploads on my wiki page? ;) === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:30] ajmitch: yes :-) [01:30] hehe [01:31] <\sh> hey guys [01:31] <\sh> lunch break [01:31] \sh: morning :-) [01:32] ajmitch: when is TB ? [01:33] sivang: next week [01:33] 6 sep, 20:00 UTC [01:33] 8AM for me :) [01:33] ah, it's already on my calendar, good.. [01:35] <\sh> going agian...cu [01:40] good morning [01:40] Nafallo: ping? [01:40] morning slomo === ajmitch wonders what else to put on his wiki page [01:40] slomo: pong :-) === Lathiat_ [i=lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] Nafallo: did you polish the mplayer package already? ;) [01:42] slomo: tsss, I went to bed and then haven't woke up yet ;-) === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] ajmitch: recovering works again? [01:53] siretart: hm? [01:53] ajmitch: yesterday, mbreit told me it was broken [01:53] 'it'? [01:54] lostpw.py. aah now I understand [01:54] ah, right.. ;) [01:54] nothing is broken mbreit confused me, that all ;) [01:54] yes, it gave me the gpg output that I could decrypt [01:54] hi siretart :) [01:54] huhu slomo === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-009.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] ajmitch: well, in fact, I was too lazy to look up how I could send an email. I was interested in how popen works in python, anyway. thats the background of lostpw.py ;) [01:56] aha [01:56] sending email is very simple :) [01:58] I'm absolutly sure it is [01:58] popen is simple as well ;) [01:59] siretart: it WAS broken yesterday.... [02:00] mbreit: what did you use as email address? [02:00] mbreit: if you enter an email with no key associated then the output will be empty. that right [02:01] siretart: the email adress was right [02:01] siretart: it worked again yesterday evening [02:01] siretart: with the same mail adress [02:03] mbreit: hmm.. then somethins weird is going on :) [02:03] something, even. [02:03] I hate this sun type 5 keyboards.. === desplesda [n=desplesd@203.242.132.203.in-addr.wholesaledsl.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:04] siretart: i thought you fixed it.... [02:04] I had a look at the scripts, but I didn't remember something suspicous.. === hawk_78 [n=hawk@host86-222.pool8175.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] well, lets concentrate rather on revu2. and of course on remaining transistions [02:05] and malone bugs [02:05] *sigh* [02:06] yay! :) [02:06] don't worry, we've just a frantic few weeks until release, and then the cycle can begin all over again! [02:07] btw, what happened to j^'s network-manager package? will we include it in universe? [02:08] siretart: theres a big kaffufle over taht [02:08] theres some new canonical person working on it also for breezy+1 [02:09] who is working on it there? [02:10] ajmitch: Diziet [02:11] ok [02:11] ah, ian jackson, thought it would be him [02:11] Lathiat_: I thought diziet said, he had no objections in having nm in universe [02:12] well im not sure what came of it [02:12] time for me to sleep, night all [02:12] ajmitch: night mate :-) [02:13] gn8 ajmitch === slomo [n=slomo@p5487F980.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === colin__ [n=colin@LAubervilliers-151-13-63-69.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:23] ogra: hi [02:23] (others, hi too) === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] hi colin__ [02:25] :) [02:26] did your DSL problems get fixed? :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1486.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] hi [02:27] I'm just dropping by to know what you thought about my mail (about sylpheed-claws) [02:27] half way.. i had a long outage tonight again [02:27] heh [02:27] that's painful :) [02:28] ajmitch: did you import that fix or droped it? [02:29] colin__, i think it doesnt break anything, so its ok.... [02:29] cool! good news :) [02:29] ogra: there is security problem with openvpn in hoary [02:29] ogra! :) [02:30] ogra: so what should I do ? [02:30] does anyone happen to know what happened to opera? i think it used to be in multiverse, iirc [02:30] ivoks, so ping pitti about it, or the MOTUSecurity team [02:30] i did a fix allready... :) [02:30] siretart, not that i'm aware of [02:31] ivoks, great, give it to pitti or the MOTUSecurity team ;) [02:31] ivoks: can you mail the fix to security-review@lists.ubuntu.com? [02:31] ivoks: kewl. mail the debdiff to security-review@l.u.c then :-) [02:31] Nafallo: www.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/openvpn-20050831.diff [02:32] ivoks: I'm not a mailing-list ;-) [02:32] but you are in sec team :) [02:32] hehe, oki. I'll look at it :-P [02:32] :) [02:34] ivoks: that changelog needs more work. something like: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/k/kismet/kismet_2005.08.R1-1ubuntu1/changelog [02:34] but then again, more info is that would be even greater :-) [02:35] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/b/bugzilla/bugzilla_2.16.5-2ubuntu0.2/changelog [02:35] that's a good one :-) [02:36] uh :) [02:37] i don't have time right now... [02:37] i have exam tomorrow.. [02:37] ivoks: are these CAN fixed in 2.0? [02:37] slomo: breezy has fixed version [02:37] ivoks: ok [02:38] ivoks: btw... did you hear something from mako or elmo? [02:38] nope [02:38] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=324167 [02:38] 2.0.2-1 is fixed version [02:38] ivoks: looks good except the changelog ;-) [02:39] damn... 2.0 is unfixed too === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa194.4.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] Nafallo: feel free to change it, breezy's openvpn needs fixing too (sorry for misleading informations) [02:39] or sync from debian [02:40] ivoks: yeah... sync from debian would be the best i think ;) [02:40] well, i can't do that, so... :) [02:40] slomo: it turns out that my PGP key is broken (?) [02:41] slomo: GPG gurus are checking what's could be an issue... [02:41] ivoks: sure you can... just ping elmo to do a sync :) no need for upload rights [02:41] ivoks: uh... :( [02:45] ivoks: how did you notice that your key is broken? [02:45] Severity: grave [02:45] according to Debian :) [02:46] slomo: i reported a bug to launchpad [02:46] slomo: they had some issues and didn't know how to reproduce it [02:46] slomo: it turns out, my fingerprint was creating that issues :) [02:47] slomo: after debuging conclusion was that this is material for gpg gurus :) [02:47] so... here I am :) [02:50] ok, i'm out of here [02:50] i hope elmo isn't ignoring me [02:50] i just never get any feedback from him :/ [02:51] dito... but normally he does syncs silently... when you write him a mail about the sync you'll get a "done" mail as reply ;) [02:51] :) [02:51] but just wait for breezy-changes to list openvpn :) [02:52] ok.. [02:52] got to go... [02:52] bye === Mitario [n=michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] hello hello [02:59] Mitario: hey [02:59] Mitario: you needed your key signed? :) [03:00] hi Mitario :) === Gazer [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:10] Treenaks, no, not anymore :) but thanks anyways, and.. I'll sign your key at some meeting or something :p [03:10] slomo, any response from elmo yet? :) [03:10] no :( [03:11] k [03:11] btw, anyone knows a way to repartition and resize stuff? [03:11] does gparted do that? [03:12] probably === Mitario hopes gparted is on live === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] Howdy [03:17] hi bddebian [03:17] Hello Mitario [03:24] aaah... where is nafallo?! :( [03:28] (behind you) [03:29] hmm is there a 'universe/motu discussion' list? [03:29] except -devel.. [03:30] hmm... ogra? do we also sync automatically from 3rd party repositories like marillat's? [03:31] Heya slomo [03:31] hi bddebian :) [03:32] slomo, not automatically [03:34] ogra: ok, thanks :) because we have 3 packages rewritten which shoudln't be synced from him [03:35] if they have ubuntuX versions that shouldnt be an issue anyway [03:35] oh... right... i haven't thought of that ;) [03:37] holy blog spam batman [03:38] ? [03:38] i just got 5 at once [03:38] spam comments in your blog? online casino and the like? ;) [03:39] holy crap [03:39] more than 5 [03:39] yeah that stuff === bddebian stops adding tsengs name to "those" web sites [03:39] hehe... these were the only comments i got so far ;) [03:39] "9 comments marked as spam" [03:39] slomo: oh i get a bunch [03:39] slomo: you need to be on planet [03:41] hm but i don't have many ubuntu or linux specific posts ;) [03:42] neither do I :P [03:44] tseng: btw... you need this wordpress audioscrobbler plugin :) [03:44] no i dont [03:44] i think its kind of crappy [03:44] lol... ok :) why? [03:44] do you have it on your site now? [03:44] i didnt like the output [03:45] yes... i have it almost since the beginning [03:45] lets see it [03:47] ogra: http://kerneltrap.org/node/5606 === desplesda [n=desplesd@203.242.132.203.in-addr.wholesaledsl.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] haha / activates Find in firefox [03:53] that rocks [03:53] much faster than control f [03:53] sine 1.0 :) [03:53] since even [03:53] no one told me! === faux [n=miffo@1-1-4-21a.gkp.gbg.bostream.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] oh cool slang2 transition is complete too [03:54] wow, guys, you rock :) [03:54] well the wiki page says so :) [03:55] as long as apt thinks the same, thats fine ;) === _derek [n=derek@66.9.7.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0837.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] hi ivoks [04:25] hi [04:30] Heya ivoks === comadreja [n=comadrej@4.Red-83-50-110.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === colin__ [n=colin@LAubervilliers-151-13-63-69.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [04:32] If I change a build-dep for wxwin2.4-headers, do I need both wx2.4-headers and wx-common or just wx2.4-headers? [04:33] ? [04:34] xmule currently build-deps on wxwin2.4-headers which is replaced by wx2.4-headers, wx-common [04:34] afaik just wx2.4headers [04:36] hm... [04:36] both [04:36] Grr [04:36] oh both? [04:36] sorry :) [04:36] :-) [04:37] bddebian: check wich files you need for build [04:37] maybe you don't need both [04:37] ivoks: HOw do I do that? [04:37] don't install any of those two [04:38] Hmm [04:38] OK [04:38] try to compile [04:39] and then every file it will miss search with apt-file search [04:41] juste a little question in english, since I'm not very fluent, I've updated a debian/rules file by cutting down its size by 2, how should I tell that in changelog ? [04:43] well... "cleaning up debhelper scripts" [04:46] thank you ! === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:51] any motu's who can sponsor me? [04:52] :) [04:52] hello all [04:52] hi xhaker [04:56] Hello xhaker [05:00] nice :) [05:00] http://no-name-yet.com [05:01] even better www.no-name-yet.com :) [05:01] oh, that still exists ? [05:02] i thought it was shut down long ago [05:02] yep :) [05:02] i hope they keep it up, for historical purposes. [05:02] i remember the first time i heard that mark was going to release a linux distribution, it was very exciting. [05:07] heh I didn't even know mark at that time === Danten [n=danten@h45n1c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [05:09] I still don't "know" Mark :-) [05:09] heh === lifeless_ [n=robertc@dsl-240.26.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] siretart: hi, I often have "TypeError: this constructor takes no arguments", is it a feature ? ;) [05:27] siretart: on revu of course === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:37] if a motu has some free time, please review this package http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=522 [05:37] thanks ! [05:38] What should we do if there is a newer revision of something in Debian but it's on UniverseUnmetDeps? In this case vipec. [05:38] siretart, ping [05:40] bddebian, are the unmetdeps being fixed with the debian merge? [05:41] Mitario: Actually it has FTBFS problems with gcc4 [05:41] hmmmm i thought you could ask for a merge from elmo but i'm not totally sure :S [05:41] ajmitch, ? [05:41] ajmitch always knows these kind of things :) [05:43] ajmitch is MOTUIC? [05:45] No one else knows??? [05:46] whats the question? [05:46] i see several [05:47] What should we do if there is a newer revision of something in Debian but it's on UniverseUnmetDeps? In this case vipec. [05:47] we arent syncing new revisions from debian === herzi [n=herzi@d014147.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:47] unless it does something to fix unmet deps/ [05:47] whats the rationale [05:47] Well you can't fix an unmet dep if you can't build it ;-) [05:47] oh [05:47] bddebian: so it has gcc4 problems too? [05:48] Lathiat_: Yes [05:48] if so, it should probably be synced [05:48] bddebian, you could apply a patch [05:48] is it a nwe version? [05:48] or just a new revision? [05:48] (to fix the gcc4 errors) [05:48] Mitario: Aye but if it's already fixed in Debian, why do it? [05:48] Mitario: its nicer to sync, makes merging later easier... [05:48] Lathiat_: -4 vs -3 [05:48] bddebian, UVFS :) [05:48] bddebian: then thatd probably be ok, but i'd check with one of the other MOTUs first [05:49] Mitario: pong [05:49] siretart, hey, can you add me to revu when I click 'send'? :) [05:49] tseng: See, I try to help.. :'-( [05:49] send? [05:49] huh? [05:49] siretart, (in evolution) [05:49] if its jsut a gcc fix [05:49] sync it [05:49] (after testing) [05:50] Mitario: ah, you want your key in the keyring? [05:50] tseng: HOw do I get it synced? [05:50] mail elmo [05:50] siretart, yes, and a reviewer account :) === bddebian wants to kill himself [05:51] bddebian, ask elmo :) [05:51] iirc [05:51] where can I find a personn in the "strongset" for signing my key ? [05:51] pef: biglumber.com [05:51] pef: biglumber for example === pef can helps bddebian [05:51] pef: In here or a DD or biglumber :-) [05:52] this needs a physical contact, right ? [05:52] pef: Help me what, kill myself [05:52] :-) [05:52] Mitario: any answer from mako or elmo? [05:52] slomo, not yet :( [05:52] bddebian: yes, but mmm I'm too far :/ [05:52] Mitario: done [05:52] siretart, thanks :) [05:53] Mitario: maybe we should visit them ;) [05:53] Mitario: I added your key, please upload something to review to get a account created [05:53] sladen, yeah you have a ticket to UK/australia? :D [05:54] err wait [05:54] I can do that by hand.. [05:54] Mitario: try to recover your password [05:54] Mitario: not sladen :P [05:54] pff indeed ;) [05:54] siretart, allright [05:55] Mitario: but i don't have one... but afaik they're both in the USA? [05:55] oooh [05:55] Mitario: but that doesn't make it easier ;) [05:55] slomo, heh :) [05:56] siretart, ehm 'Now paste the text below?' [05:57] Mitario: your login is: michiel@eyesopened.nl [05:57] yeah [05:58] siretart, but at the 'recover' page I don't get an encrypted pass [05:58] tseng: Do you know if he prefers e-mail or ping on IRC? [05:58] just type this command: gpg -d < and then, paste the text below [05:59] indeed [06:00] problem is, there's no text below ;) [06:00] Mitario: does gpg -d give you something? [06:00] Treenaks, yeah, a stdin [06:00] Mitario: give it an encrypted message [06:01] which encrypted message? [06:01] Mitario: that will (when decrypted) show the indicated text [06:01] Treenaks, yes I know :) [06:01] Mitario: so what's the problem? :) [06:01] Treenaks, the encrypted message didn't appear to recover my pass, but siretart now fixed it [06:02] it does now? === siretart confused again [06:02] Mitario: does your pw work after all? [06:03] hmm, gpg -d doesn't return a password at all [06:03] it returns to stdout? [06:04] ooooh [06:04] wait, missed the missing \n [06:04] siretart, allright works now :) [06:05] Mitario: these are the things I want to do better in revu2 ;) [06:05] code it in ruby ;-) === Mitario ducks [06:05] Mitario: you are welcome to contribute: http://revu.tauware.de/trac [06:07] btw what's the adv of using dput over dupload? [06:07] none. [06:07] I like the syntax of dput better === mikerhead [n=Mike@cpe-66-24-91-59.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] ah === mikerhead [n=Mike@cpe-66-24-91-59.stny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Mitario dputs a test package === Nafallo [n=nafallo@unaffiliated/nafallo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] hrm, how do I generate .changes from a source package === j_fletcher [n=james@nukeh.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] Mitario: dpkg-buildpackage or debuild [06:14] yeah but that makes me compile the package :) [06:14] How else would you have any changes? :-) [06:14] oh changes is per binary package of course :) [06:14] no it isn't :/ [06:15] well if you dpkg-buildpackage -S for instance, it doesn't generate changes [06:15] Mitario: dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa for example [06:15] aaah [06:15] right [06:15] danke :) [06:15] Mitario: this creates changes... (and -sd instead of -sa when you don't want the original tarball to be included) [06:16] allright :) [06:16] Mitario: you can speak german? or just some words? ;) [06:17] well, i speak more than 'some words', but i'm not native if that's what you mean :) [06:18] Mitario: ok, we better stay with english then ;) [06:19] hmm [06:19] slomo, try me ;-) [06:20] food, sleep or leisure? ;-) [06:20] Nafallo: ah, there you are again :) let's finish mplayer today ;) [06:20] Nafallo: and i think the liba52 segfault is related to this cvs version... let's see whether it disappears with the try2 [06:22] slomo: that's food and coffeine then ;-). brb. === Nafallo gone fixing food :-P [06:23] slomo: hi [06:23] Nafallo: ok =) [06:23] pef: hi :) [06:25] slomo: can you have a look at coccinella on revu ? you already advocated it, it's a new upstream version(and debian/rules is twice smaller :] [06:25] pef: twice smaller? cdbs? ;) [06:25] pef: but sure... i'll do [06:25] slomo: no, better usage of loops ;) [06:26] and I've deleted configure stuff target, useless for scripts [06:27] pef: ok :) === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] oh no... galeon crashed :( [06:30] pef: and it's your fault ;P the debdiff was too big for the ram ;) [06:33] pef: hmm... 686... does it run on something lower? [06:35] slomo: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), I think yes, but I will ask to people on forum (can't test at home) [06:35] the .so files [06:36] pef: ok... i don't know whether we have some policies for such things ;) === jani [n=jani@catv3EC94923.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pluggie [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] Damn, why do I even bother looking at fscking C++ code :'-( [06:43] bddebian: ? === ryanthiessen [n=ryan@168-103-148-90.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] slomo: Looking at some of my FTBFS problems :-( [06:44] bddebian, tried google? :) [06:45] I just found a few FTBFS packages on google :) [06:45] just by searching for one line of the error message [06:45] bddebian: or look debian bts or gentoo for fixes ;) [06:45] BTS doesn't have anything [06:48] Nor does google [06:48] what package? [06:48] tyvis [06:49] bddebian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=tyvis [06:50] bddebian: http://packages.qa.debian.org is useful for such things :) [06:50] slomo: That isn't the error I'm getting. I knew about that one [06:50] bddebian: oh... sorry then :( [06:50] NP :-) [06:53] bddebian: can you paste the error somewhere? [06:55] bah, whats the damn pastebin url? [06:55] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ [06:55] Ah, I didn't have the linux part :-) [06:55] or paste.debian.net ;) === janimo [n=jani@catv3EC94923.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:57] http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1770 [06:59] ok, i'll take a look... but don't expect too much ;) i don't like c++ [06:59] Who does besides jbailey?? ;-P [07:00] hm, i thought he is a C guy ;) [07:00] Jeff knows everything ;-) [07:00] bddebian: hmm... i have an other line 107 than you ;) === SloMo_ [n=slomo@p5487ED3A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:03] bddebian: hmm... i have an other line 107 than you ;) [07:03] great [07:04] lol [07:05] what is this LONG thing? [07:06] No freaking clue :-) [07:08] hrm [07:08] ok ;) [07:12] I'm a dumbass remember :) === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-73-155.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:16] siretart: oh nice... our current non-marillat ffmpeg seems to be broken for ac3 decoding... marillat one's work... i hope mdz will answer my mail before breezy ;) === lamont [n=lamont@15.238.5.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:27] bye ! === ogra_ltsp [n=ogra@p5089EC9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === michaelrhead [n=burner@128.226.183.21] has joined #ubuntu-motu === michaelrhead [n=burner@128.226.183.21] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1980.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax9-215.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:08] hi [08:10] any motu around here? [08:11] uploader? :p [08:11] yep === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax9-215.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:16] ok... issue around my key is solved [08:17] ivoks: Cool [08:17] ivoks: how? [08:17] ivoks: What was up with the launchpad thing? [08:17] i turns out launchpad doesn't support sing-only keys [08:17] those are keys without subkey [08:17] Ahhh [08:18] (you can't encrypt with it) [08:18] that will be fixed, but i will have to wait for one more month :) [08:20] ivoks email mako with the CoC? :) [08:20] i allready did [08:22] now, any uploader here? [08:23] we have a security bugs in openvpn :/ [08:24] seriuos! :) [08:24] ivoks: was already uploaded by mdz [08:24] ivoks: warty and hoary pending [08:24] slomo: for hoary and warty? [08:24] ok [08:31] great news [08:32] imho, swf-player should Conflict with flashplugin-nonfree [08:34] anyone to discuss this with me? [08:35] no one? ok... [08:35] hehe... seems like everyone is dead today ;) [08:35] I'm just st00pid and can't seem to fix anything.. :'-( [08:37] hmm, revu, are packages beining uploaded automatically if it gets advocated twice? [08:37] Mitario: no :/ [08:37] oki :) [08:42] ok, guys... [08:42] yeah? [08:42] anyone against making swf-player conflicts flashplugin-nonfree? === bddebian could care less :-) [08:42] bddebian: you mean couldn't? :) [08:43] Bah :-) [08:43] ivoks, are there file conflicts? [08:43] Mitario: no, but there is an issue in firefox/mozilla [08:43] nonfree is plugin that works [08:43] while swf-player plugin doesn't work on all sites [08:43] ah [08:43] if you have both, mozilla will call swf-player [08:43] not nonfree [08:44] what happens if you install them both? [08:44] just told you [08:44] mozilla will call swf-player, not nonfree [08:44] aah sorry [08:44] and you wouldn't see some sites (americasarmy.com for example) [08:45] but mozilla will work with nonfree? [08:46] if swf-player is deinstalled, yes [08:46] oki I think its fine then :) [08:54] brb going to some pub [08:54] bbiab === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvolt1ge [n=Jono@196.25.192.240] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dmk_ [n=dmk@host81-155-39-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dmk_ [n=dmk@host81-155-39-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1980.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dmk_ [n=dmk@host81-155-39-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dmk_ [n=dmk@host81-155-39-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === dmk [n=dmk@host81-155-39-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _derek [n=derek@66.9.7.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === derek_ [n=derek@66.9.7.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu === petgru is now known as pete === bradb_ [n=bradb@modemcable230.58-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Natja [n=Natja@8.176-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janimo [n=jani@catv3EC94923.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] Is there not a PendingUpload status on bugzilla anymore?? === lamont__ [n=lamont@15.238.5.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] Ack, where the hell is everyone? :-) [10:42] bddebian: fixing stuff ;) [10:42] bddebian: humans :-) [10:44] So how do I get merged packages uploaded now? [10:45] ask someone to upload it for you... Nafallo maybe [10:46] bddebian: where are they? :-) [10:47] Nafallo: The merged version of diacanvas2 should be able to go up now [10:48] bddebian: ehm, REVU? [10:48] or where? :-) [10:48] bugzilla :-) [10:48] ah [10:48] bugnumber? :-) [10:48] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12258 === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] Same for xcruise: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11957 [10:53] bddebian: so just upload the stuff from http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/ongoing-merge/diacanvas2/ ? [10:53] Nafallo: Yep. I think you need to do a quick changelog entry??? [10:55] bddebian: seems like it [10:57] bddebian: next time you should have the changelog in your patch to :-). [10:57] Why, I can't upload anyway.. :-) [10:58] bddebian: no, but then you get the credit on breezy-changes ;-) [10:58] if it's my key isn't the point ;-) [11:02] Nafallo: I need credit? :-) [11:02] morning all [11:03] ajmitch!! [11:06] bddebian: yes :-) [11:06] ajmitch: hi there :-) [11:06] bddebian: I hate diacanvas2 :-P === fred__ [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0686.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === macgyver2 [n=eric@unaffiliated/macgyver2] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:27] bddebian: xcruise uploaded [11:28] hi [11:28] ivoks: morning [11:29] lol [11:29] 'night === _derek [n=derek@66.9.7.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:40] bddebian: diacanvas2 uploaded === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic_ [n=prospero@wolax9-052.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc2-cove3-5-0-cust220.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dmk_ [n=dmk@host81-155-39-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dmk_ [n=dmk@host81-155-39-68.range81-155.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === bmonty [n=bmontgom@12.41.191.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu