/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2005/09/06/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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pefmorning07:50
m-foxmorning08:45
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Tm_Thi kids06:23
Riddellhi Tm_T 06:23
Tm_Tah, mr Riddel :)06:23
Tm_T+l06:23
Tm_TI blame keyboard06:24
Tm_Tany knowledge about release date?06:25
Tm_Tyeah, I mean breezy ;)06:25
Riddellhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule october 13th06:25
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Tm_T...and with Kubuntu? =)06:27
Riddellsame06:27
Riddellso we'll miss KDE 3.506:27
Tm_Toh, ok06:27
Tm_Tit will be packaged as soon as possible then06:28
Tm_Tok thanks06:28
Riddellyes it will06:28
Tm_Tgood to know06:28
Tm_Tbah, got enough of this latencyhell, off ->06:47
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Riddellyo tvo 07:03
tvoyo Riddell 07:03
Riddelltvo: seen kio-beagle?07:03
tvoRiddell: no, though I recall I read about it a while ago..07:04
tvoprobably in kde-devel07:05
Riddellof course you'd probably have to get beagle working first to test it out, and that isn't necessarily easy07:05
Riddelltvo: are you planning on porting your google extention patches to kde 3.4?07:05
tvono, I planned on testing it until I read it has problems on ReiserFS partitions, thats what most of my partitions are :(07:06
tvothat's ok, shouldn't be too easy (re: porting to kde 3.4)07:06
tvo*too difficult07:07
tvoarg07:07
tvoI'll test beagle on my breezy test partition, that's ext307:07
Riddellgood luck, I could never get it working07:08
Riddellbut maybe the ubuntu packages have improved07:08
tvohehe, ok, I should try anyway07:09
tvoRiddell: is kat still in development?07:09
tvos/kat/katapult/07:09
Riddellnot much done on katapult for a while, I'd still like to get round to it but may not be able to before breezy07:09
tvoit's in berlios isn't it?07:09
RiddellI'd definatly like to make a breezy + 1 spec for it, then maybe someone will get a bounty07:10
Riddellyes, berlios07:10
tvoI should check it out and implement some of the features I myself added to the wiki, because technically they look a lot like the patches I made recently07:11
Riddellif anyone has good projects that would make kubuntu cool and wants a bounty for them tell me so we can get a spec 07:11
tvowill do, I'll certainly keep developing for KDE/Qt, their codebase is extremely good07:12
=== tvo remembers the optional bounty ;)
tvoRiddell: what do you know about LaptopTestingTeam ?07:15
tvoI got curious because my uni keeps trying to convince students to get a laptop :)07:15
=== tvo ports his googlebar* patches
Riddelltvo: "No new laptops are being sent out"07:18
tvo:(07:18
Riddellkeep your eye open I guess, they may do it again at some point07:19
tvoRiddell: is it right kdeaddons 3.4.2 wasn't packaged for hoary?07:25
tvoit's not a problem though I grab tarballs directly from KDE07:25
Riddelltvo: ah yes, that's waiting on kdebase which is what I'm about to look at07:27
tvoI'll backport the searchbar and see if that gives any problems07:34
=== tvo wonders why he has a googlebar without having installed kdeaddons
=== tvo compiles KDE 3.4.2 with backported googlebar
Riddelltvo: you probably have konq-plugins, not the whole kdeaddons08:08
tvoRiddell: ah that explains it08:09
tvoRiddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/patch/googlebar_backport_total.diff08:46
Riddelltvo: you kick arse08:46
tvoit's 00-02 googlebar patches combined including a 3.5->3.4.2 backpot08:46
tvoseems to work here08:46
tvo:)08:46
tvoRiddell: do we want about:konqueror patch in 3.4.2 too?08:52
Riddelltvo: ooh, yes please08:52
Riddellthat shouldn't have changed though08:52
tvoby looking at SVN, it seemed easier yes.08:52
tvodid you already test it?08:53
tvo(in 3.4.2 that is)08:53
tvoanyway, I'll test if the patch applies without warnings. If it needs a backport things are *hard* because testing kdebase it isn't as easy as kdeaddons.08:55
tvo( or rather, kdebase just takes 80x more time to compile )08:55
Riddelldid I mention that the icecream cluster here is very nice? :)08:56
tvook I patch, you compile :)08:58
Riddelldeal09:00
tvoas you said, it hasn't changed much. patch applies with +2 lines offset for two hunks of last file09:06
tvoRiddell: quickly scanned through the code, seems ok09:11
tvoRiddell: i'd say, compile 'n test09:11
tvojust discovered a minor memleak in my patch :(09:12
tvowant a new patch or a patch on top of this patch?09:12
Riddellnew patch09:15
tvook09:17
tvobtw, is that in general (rather replacement patch than patch-stack) ?09:17
tvoor only with bugfixes ?09:17
Riddellwhole new patch09:20
Riddelltvo: 00-ak_searchbar_bot.diff and 00-ak_searchbar_top.diff seem to overlap09:24
Riddelloh wait, that's deliberate09:24
Riddellignore me09:24
tvo:)09:31
tvoRiddell: want both top and bottom or just top?09:31
Riddelljust top, ignore me09:32
tvoRiddell: ok, memleak-fixed is @ http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/patch/00-ak_searchbar_top_memleak_fixed.diff09:36
tvoRiddell: another subject: what (for) are regression logs ?09:43
Riddelltvo: where's that?09:45
tvoon packages.ubuntu.com09:45
tvothere's "build logs" and "regression test" for each package09:45
tvoI noticed "regression test" is -failed for many packages, just have no clue what it is :)09:46
tvothe logs look just like a build....09:47
Riddellthe build log is the result of what happens after someone uploads the source package and the build daemons build it09:49
Riddellregression tests I havn't seen before but it looks like random rebuilds of packages to make sure they still build09:50
tvosounds plausible :)09:52
tvoonce KDE 3.5 is out I'll check them to see if UDS_HIDDEN was properly detected09:53
Riddelltvo: how do you mean detected?10:17
tvoRiddell: I modified bksys to autodetect the presence of my patch in KDE and add a -D switch in the case it's present10:18
Riddellooh, fancy10:19
Riddellhow does it detect it?10:19
tvoso as soon as kio-locate gets rebuild with 3.5 the uds_hidden feature is present10:19
tvothat's less fancy :)10:19
tvoit does a "cat $KDE_INCLUDE_DIR/kio/global.h" and checks if the string UDS_HIDDEN is therein10:20
Riddellgood solution :)10:20
tvoif ita is right I can make it faster using python instead of cat (bksys == python), but i'm not yet a python guru, so I could not yet figure out how :)10:21
RiddellI shouldn't imagine it would make any noticable difference10:22
tvoand it's not really a time critical part of the software :)10:24
tvothat's why i only spent like 5 minutes trying..10:26
tvonight10:36
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