[07:50] <pef> morning
[08:45] <m-fox> morning
[06:23] <Tm_T> hi kids
[06:23] <Riddell> hi Tm_T 
[06:23] <Tm_T> ah, mr Riddel :)
[06:23] <Tm_T> +l
[06:24] <Tm_T> I blame keyboard
[06:25] <Tm_T> any knowledge about release date?
[06:25] <Tm_T> yeah, I mean breezy ;)
[06:25] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseSchedule october 13th
[06:27] <Tm_T> ...and with Kubuntu? =)
[06:27] <Riddell> same
[06:27] <Riddell> so we'll miss KDE 3.5
[06:27] <Tm_T> oh, ok
[06:28] <Tm_T> it will be packaged as soon as possible then
[06:28] <Tm_T> ok thanks
[06:28] <Riddell> yes it will
[06:28] <Tm_T> good to know
[06:47] <Tm_T> bah, got enough of this latencyhell, off ->
[07:03] <Riddell> yo tvo 
[07:03] <tvo> yo Riddell 
[07:03] <Riddell> tvo: seen kio-beagle?
[07:04] <tvo> Riddell: no, though I recall I read about it a while ago..
[07:05] <tvo> probably in kde-devel
[07:05] <Riddell> of course you'd probably have to get beagle working first to test it out, and that isn't necessarily easy
[07:05] <Riddell> tvo: are you planning on porting your google extention patches to kde 3.4?
[07:06] <tvo> no, I planned on testing it until I read it has problems on ReiserFS partitions, thats what most of my partitions are :(
[07:06] <tvo> that's ok, shouldn't be too easy (re: porting to kde 3.4)
[07:07] <tvo> *too difficult
[07:07] <tvo> arg
[07:07] <tvo> I'll test beagle on my breezy test partition, that's ext3
[07:08] <Riddell> good luck, I could never get it working
[07:08] <Riddell> but maybe the ubuntu packages have improved
[07:09] <tvo> hehe, ok, I should try anyway
[07:09] <tvo> Riddell: is kat still in development?
[07:09] <tvo> s/kat/katapult/
[07:09] <Riddell> not much done on katapult for a while, I'd still like to get round to it but may not be able to before breezy
[07:09] <tvo> it's in berlios isn't it?
[07:10] <Riddell> I'd definatly like to make a breezy + 1 spec for it, then maybe someone will get a bounty
[07:10] <Riddell> yes, berlios
[07:11] <tvo> I should check it out and implement some of the features I myself added to the wiki, because technically they look a lot like the patches I made recently
[07:11] <Riddell> if anyone has good projects that would make kubuntu cool and wants a bounty for them tell me so we can get a spec 
[07:12] <tvo> will do, I'll certainly keep developing for KDE/Qt, their codebase is extremely good
[07:15] <tvo> Riddell: what do you know about LaptopTestingTeam ?
[07:15] <tvo> I got curious because my uni keeps trying to convince students to get a laptop :)
[07:18] <Riddell> tvo: "No new laptops are being sent out"
[07:18] <tvo> :(
[07:19] <Riddell> keep your eye open I guess, they may do it again at some point
[07:25] <tvo> Riddell: is it right kdeaddons 3.4.2 wasn't packaged for hoary?
[07:25] <tvo> it's not a problem though I grab tarballs directly from KDE
[07:27] <Riddell> tvo: ah yes, that's waiting on kdebase which is what I'm about to look at
[07:34] <tvo> I'll backport the searchbar and see if that gives any problems
[08:08] <Riddell> tvo: you probably have konq-plugins, not the whole kdeaddons
[08:09] <tvo> Riddell: ah that explains it
[08:46] <tvo> Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/patch/googlebar_backport_total.diff
[08:46] <Riddell> tvo: you kick arse
[08:46] <tvo> it's 00-02 googlebar patches combined including a 3.5->3.4.2 backpot
[08:46] <tvo> seems to work here
[08:46] <tvo> :)
[08:52] <tvo> Riddell: do we want about:konqueror patch in 3.4.2 too?
[08:52] <Riddell> tvo: ooh, yes please
[08:52] <Riddell> that shouldn't have changed though
[08:52] <tvo> by looking at SVN, it seemed easier yes.
[08:53] <tvo> did you already test it?
[08:53] <tvo> (in 3.4.2 that is)
[08:55] <tvo> anyway, I'll test if the patch applies without warnings. If it needs a backport things are *hard* because testing kdebase it isn't as easy as kdeaddons.
[08:55] <tvo> ( or rather, kdebase just takes 80x more time to compile )
[08:56] <Riddell> did I mention that the icecream cluster here is very nice? :)
[08:58] <tvo> ok I patch, you compile :)
[09:00] <Riddell> deal
[09:06] <tvo> as you said, it hasn't changed much. patch applies with +2 lines offset for two hunks of last file
[09:11] <tvo> Riddell: quickly scanned through the code, seems ok
[09:11] <tvo> Riddell: i'd say, compile 'n test
[09:12] <tvo> just discovered a minor memleak in my patch :(
[09:12] <tvo> want a new patch or a patch on top of this patch?
[09:15] <Riddell> new patch
[09:17] <tvo> ok
[09:17] <tvo> btw, is that in general (rather replacement patch than patch-stack) ?
[09:17] <tvo> or only with bugfixes ?
[09:20] <Riddell> whole new patch
[09:24] <Riddell> tvo: 00-ak_searchbar_bot.diff and 00-ak_searchbar_top.diff seem to overlap
[09:24] <Riddell> oh wait, that's deliberate
[09:24] <Riddell> ignore me
[09:31] <tvo> :)
[09:31] <tvo> Riddell: want both top and bottom or just top?
[09:32] <Riddell> just top, ignore me
[09:36] <tvo> Riddell: ok, memleak-fixed is @ http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/soc/patch/00-ak_searchbar_top_memleak_fixed.diff
[09:43] <tvo> Riddell: another subject: what (for) are regression logs ?
[09:45] <Riddell> tvo: where's that?
[09:45] <tvo> on packages.ubuntu.com
[09:45] <tvo> there's "build logs" and "regression test" for each package
[09:46] <tvo> I noticed "regression test" is -failed for many packages, just have no clue what it is :)
[09:47] <tvo> the logs look just like a build....
[09:49] <Riddell> the build log is the result of what happens after someone uploads the source package and the build daemons build it
[09:50] <Riddell> regression tests I havn't seen before but it looks like random rebuilds of packages to make sure they still build
[09:52] <tvo> sounds plausible :)
[09:53] <tvo> once KDE 3.5 is out I'll check them to see if UDS_HIDDEN was properly detected
[10:17] <Riddell> tvo: how do you mean detected?
[10:18] <tvo> Riddell: I modified bksys to autodetect the presence of my patch in KDE and add a -D switch in the case it's present
[10:19] <Riddell> ooh, fancy
[10:19] <Riddell> how does it detect it?
[10:19] <tvo> so as soon as kio-locate gets rebuild with 3.5 the uds_hidden feature is present
[10:19] <tvo> that's less fancy :)
[10:20] <tvo> it does a "cat $KDE_INCLUDE_DIR/kio/global.h" and checks if the string UDS_HIDDEN is therein
[10:20] <Riddell> good solution :)
[10:21] <tvo> if ita is right I can make it faster using python instead of cat (bksys == python), but i'm not yet a python guru, so I could not yet figure out how :)
[10:22] <Riddell> I shouldn't imagine it would make any noticable difference
[10:24] <tvo> and it's not really a time critical part of the software :)
[10:26] <tvo> that's why i only spent like 5 minutes trying..
[10:36] <tvo> night